[03:40] <billd4> can anyone help me
[03:41] <tsimonq2> !ask
[13:25] <rjCousineau> Hello.  I've been using Lubuntu 17.04 Zesty on LattePanda hardware (SBC) and it's been stable.  I've since lost that .iso and trying 17.10.1 causes the boot to fail (infinite boot loop).  16.04.1 doesn't find the network adapter, 16.04.3 hangs the system after 10 seconds.  I'm not sure how I can proceed
[13:26] <redwolf> rjCousineau, there's a complete list of old ISOs here: https://lubuntu.me/downloads/
[13:26] <redwolf> or here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/
[13:26] <rjCousineau> redwolf: 17.04 isn't available.
[13:26] <rjCousineau> 16.04 fails
[13:27] <redwolf> anyways, 17.04 is EOL : https://lubuntu.me/zesty-eol/
[13:28] <rjCousineau> It's the only one that works lol
 Did you verify the checksum of the 17.10.1 ISO?
[13:29] <redwolf> :|
[13:30] <redwolf> it's odd that 17.04 works and 17.10 doesn't. drivers and hardware support is accumulative
[13:36] <rjCousineau> 17.10.1 enters a boot loop.  I'll install it again and try to capture the cause
[13:37] <redwolf> that's weird
[13:38] <redwolf> have you tried the Alternate (text mode) installer?
[13:39] <redwolf> and tsimonq2 is right, every download should be checked: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD
[13:40] <rjCousineau> redwolf:
[13:40] <rjCousineau> redwolf: I'll try the Alternate installer too
[13:40] <redwolf> :)
[13:57] <rjCousineau> Alternate 17.10.1 reports No network interfaces detected.  The graphical installer doesn't have this issue
 I'm reading that Panda BIOSes are reported for ignoring some network cards
 have you had the same problem with other Linuxes?
 No, it's known, I had the same issue :/
 I knew I was forgetting something last night!
[16:32] <rjCousineau> redwolf: I installed 17.10.1 again and I had a filesystem cache error.. I tried a new USB stick and re-flashed the image and installed it, everything worked! Must have been a bad memory stick.
[17:05] <Thedarkb-X40> How do I make it so that LXDE doesn't start with the lubuntu profile?
[17:06] <Thedarkb-X40> I prefer the standard look.


[21:30] <silentz0r> beandog: i'm basically asking, does the ubuntu dev team add anything that I would miss if i installed the driver from the website?
[21:30] <gnuskool> gilmore: I noticed that, but didnt know how to change it
[21:31] <gilmore> qsu -
[21:31] <gilmore> century
[21:31] <gilmore> ifconfig
[21:31] <beandog> silentz0r: dunno.
[21:31] <buhman> whenever I modify /etc/motd, it is modified when I log in again
[21:31] <buhman> what is causing this malicious behavior?
[21:31] <beandog> silentz0r: Either way, I'd uninstall it from your system
[21:31] <gilmore> ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:31] <beandog> silentz0r: uninstall the one already provided from ubuntu, and go from there
[21:31] <trism> buhman: /etc/motd is updated by the scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/
[21:31] <silentz0r> beandog: problem is, my hardware cannot use opensource driver so i would have to do everything via commandline
[21:32] <trism> buhman: if you want to add a static tail to the end, add it to /etc/motd.tail
[21:32] <gnuskool> MonkeyDust: any idea why route-n had 192.168..0.0 in there for eth0?
[21:32] <beandog> silentz0r: thats fine.  it comes with an installer
[21:32] <trism> buhman: likewise you can chmod -x the scripts in that directory that you would like to disable (and chmod +x them to reenable them)
[21:33] <[Si]> <IP_ADDRESS> would be the network address assuming a /24 (<IP_ADDRESS> netmask)
[21:33] <buhman> trism: interesting
[21:34] <gnuskool> Si, thx
[21:35] <gnuskool> Si, so to get a reply from ping, I'd need to put in a static route between the subnets?
[21:36] <[Si]> gnuskool, for what you want to do you'll need the wireless clients to use ETH1s ip as their gateway, you need ip forwarding enabled on the linux box, and you need a route on the external router back to <IP_ADDRESS>/24 via eth0s IP
[21:37] <bastidrazor> buhman: /etc/update-motd.d/ has the files you need to motify.
[21:37] <gilmore> ls
[21:37] <[Si]> the external router would also need to NAT the <IP_ADDRESS>/24 out to the internet, if it can't do that then do the NAT on the linux box for it.
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> gnuskool  <IP_ADDRESS> looks odd
[21:38] <[Si]> MonkeyDust: why, it's a network address
[21:39] <buhman> bastidrazor: indeed it does
[21:39] <MonkeyDust> [Si]  mm, it's the .0.0 i wonder about
[21:40] <[Si]> MonkeyDust: In a routing table it's normal, it's the network address
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> [Si]  thing is, i didnt know 0 is used for addresses
[21:41] <[Si]> MonkeyDust: it isn't used for a host (assuming a /24 netmaks)
[21:41] <gnuskool> Si, thanks - eth1 is currently gateway - will work on the other things you mentioned - thanks
[21:42] <[Si]> gnuskool: good luck :)
[21:43] <gnuskool> Si, btw, when you say NAT <IP_ADDRESS>/24 to the internet, do you mean 'port forward' in router settings?
[21:44] <[Si]> no gnuskool you are using private addresses they can't be routed on the internet, so you need to get the router to do a "Hide NAT" or "Many to One NAT"
[21:44] <[Si]> normaly the router would do that for the local clients but you are adding another network so it needs to know to nat that too.
[21:44] <JC_SoCal> i am noticing that i don't have a /proc/bus/pci and cant access my pci card device
[21:45] <gnuskool> Si, thanks - I think thats what Ive been going round in circles about
[21:46] <JC_SoCal> also if i do an lspci i see my device
[21:49] <[Si]> JC_SoCal: do you have anything in /proc at all?
[21:49] <BobMarley> http://paste.ubuntu.com/902734/
[21:49] <JC_SoCal> [Si]: just usb
[21:49] <BobMarley> can somebody help me?
[21:49] <JC_SoCal> [Si]: sorry sorry -- in /proc yes -- lots of stuff ... in /proc/bus ... just usb
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> BobMarley  not every system supports KVM, iirc
[21:52] <acer> hi! anyone knows a way to forve cpu fan on in ubuntu 11.10?
[21:52] <acer> force*
[21:52] <MonkeyDust> BobMarley  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation
[21:52] <nes> you're cou fan isnt on?
[21:52] <nes> cpu*
[21:52] <acer> nope nes
[21:53] <acer> only sometimes
[21:53] <zykotick9> BobMarley: is ubuntu-test an image you created with qemu-img?
[21:53] <JC_SoCal> [Si]: what I've got so far is the impression that i need to map that directory to /dev something
[21:53] <acicula> acer there is fancontrol, but it sounds like your system is already managing the throtthling of the cpu fan
[21:54] <[Si]> JC_SoCal: is it in /sys/bus/pci ?
[21:54] <Aelingil> How do you uninstall a program you've compiled & put together (./configure | make | make install) in terminal?
[21:54] <JC_SoCal> [Si]: standby ....
[21:54] <zykotick9> BobMarley: FYI qemu if slow
[21:54] <acer> acicula I need a way to force it on
[21:54] <acer> always
[21:54] <[Si]> Aelingil: you have to hope they added a make uninstall
[21:54] <zykotick9> BobMarley: FYI qemu is slow (kvm appears isn't supported by your CPU, but is very fast)
[21:55] <[Si]> zykotick9: BobMarley did mention earlier he had not VT support in his cpu
[21:55] <Aelingil> [Si], and that should be in the original folder where the ./configure file is?
[21:55] <[Si]> Aelingil: yeah the same folder you ran make install in
[21:55] <zykotick9> [Si]: as the output states ;)  but thanks, i actually hadn't read any backlog for this
[21:56] <Aelingil> [Si], blah, thank you.. I was hopping it wouldnt be the case, i dont see it there. Time to reload the snapshot...
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> Aelingil: try:  sudo make clean   in the same folder you compiled in, In futre I suggest you use checkinstall to make debs, makes life easier
[21:57] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: +1
[21:57] <BobMarley> zykotick9, yes ubuntu test is that
[21:57] <Aelingil> ActionParsnip, i was using a walkthrough and it showed a make test and that went through correctly. However later down the road there is an error and everything i've read has told me to re-install the program
[21:57] <zykotick9> BobMarley: but the output says "could not open disk image"
[21:58] <zykotick9> BobMarley: you need to use full path if you aren't in that directory
[21:59] <Aelingil> Luckly this is all for learning, so when we go to do it for real there are no mistakes.. :)
[21:59] <hayer> Can I install ubuntu11.10 alongside W7 to another disk? Like disk1: W7 and bootldr, disk2: ubuntu
[21:59] <BobMarley> yes my cpu is not supporting virtualization
[21:59] <zykotick9> BobMarley: also, probably best to add an extention to the image saying what it is raw,qcow,etc
[21:59] <[Si]> Aelingil: Aelingil next time use checkinstall instead of make install, this will allow you to use dpkg to remove the package
[21:59] <BobMarley> zykotick9,
[21:59] <BobMarley> yes i have added as being img
[22:00] <zykotick9> BobMarley: then you need to specify that in your command
[22:00] <Aelingil> [Si], rgr rgr. I'll put that in my notes. I should be back to this step in about 20 minutes :)
[22:00] <BobMarley> but how?
[22:00] <zykotick9> BobMarley: ".. -hda ubuntu-test.img .."
[22:01] <BobMarley> zykotick9, , but where i must put the iso file , which serves to install the guest system?
[22:01] <zykotick9> BobMarley: the iso is secondard to your HD image (which currently isn't found)
[22:02] <[Si]> BobMarley: virtualbox may be a little more friendly
[22:02] <zykotick9> BobMarley: but i think qemu and ubuntu is pretty close to a waste of time - it's gonna be deadly slow.
[22:02] <JC_SoCal> [Si]: yes it is there /sys/bus/pci/devices
[22:02] <zykotick9> [Si]: +1
[22:02] <JC_SoCal> [Si]: i assume i just ln or mount --bind?
[22:03] <BobMarley> ok, but i need to use qemu and kvm for the following thing:http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/tianocore/index.php?title=Tasks/USB_Serial_Adapter_driver
[22:03] <[Si]> JC_SoCal: mount --bind I guess I guess some autofs/usbfs or somethign has over written
[22:03] <[Si]> i
[22:03] <BobMarley> given that i must install the following thing:
[22:03] <BobMarley> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/tianocore/index.php?title=OVMF
[22:04] <JC_SoCal> [Si]: where should i put the mount --bind so that it is persistance after reboot
[22:04] <zykotick9> BobMarley: so use full paths then.  "qemu -hda /full/path/ubuntu-test.img -cdrom /path/to/ubuntu.iso .. -boot d"
[22:04] <[Si]> JC_SoCal: a hack would be to put it in /etc/rc.local
[22:05] <BobMarley> but, given that my cpu is not supporting virtualization, do i need to unninstal the kvm?
[22:05] <JC_SoCal> [Si]: i appricate it -- ill give this a try, thanks so much
[22:05] <zykotick9> BobMarley: don't know if it makes any difference or not?
[22:06] <BobMarley> where by default qemu has its virtual machines ?
[22:06] <zykotick9> BobMarley: no default, it's where you create/put them
[22:06] <BobMarley> how do i see it?
[22:06] <BobMarley> i had nothing configured
[22:07] <[Si]> BobMarley: virtualbox supports UEFI out of the box
[22:08] <carlos_28_Mad_> ola
[22:09] <BobMarley> carlos_28_Mad_,
[22:09] <BobMarley> carlos_28_Mad_,  ola
[22:09] <BobMarley> td bemk?
[22:09] <carlos_28_Mad_> dfd
[22:09] <BobMarley> bem*
[22:09] <carlos_28_Mad_> ols
[22:10] <BobMarley> Si, so can i do that project with virtualbox?
[22:10] <carlos_28_Mad_> ola
[22:10] <zykotick9> !es | carlos_28_Mad_
[22:11] <cuddylier> Hi
[22:11] <cuddylier> Why are all my commands for mysql saying "Access denied"?
[22:11] <carlos_28_Mad_> ola
[22:11] <carlos_28_Mad_> k tal
[22:11] <rbrooks> permissions
[22:11] <Xabster> cuddylier, cause it's denying you access either due to wrong pass, user or from wrong IP
[22:12] <zykotick9> !english | carlos_28_Mad_
[22:12] <carlos_28_Mad_> fddwf
[22:12] <[Si]> BobMarley, I'm not sure about that project but if you want to try get ubuntu to boot under uefi you could use virtualbox for that
[22:12] <rbrooks> ?
[22:12] <carlos_28_Mad_> ola
[22:13] <cuddylier> How do I start again to change the mysql password, Xabster ?
[22:13] <rbrooks> Madrid?
[22:13] <Xabster> cuddylier, go to a mysql website or channel or use google
[22:13] <Xabster> this is not a mysql help channel
[22:13] <cuddylier> I cant get on the mysql channel, I have googled for hours
[22:13] <cuddylier> And found absolutely no resolution
[22:14] <nes> you noob Xabster
[22:14] <cuddylier> I'm about to give up :(
[22:14] <nes> :D
[22:14] <rbrooks> mysql is crap
[22:14] <Xabster> :(
[22:14] <rbrooks> use pg
[22:14] <Xabster> cuddylier, what did you google?
[22:14] <idlemind> my google fu is better than yours
[22:14] <idlemind> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[22:14] <carlos_28_Mad_> djh
[22:14] <Xabster> cause I just tried and first hit was a success
[22:14] <carlos_28_Mad_> fj
[22:14] <cuddylier> I googled my error and also tutorals on how to set up mysql
[22:14] <nes> slackware 13.37 rapes
[22:14] <rbrooks> yea rly feeling lucky could have found taht
[22:14] <nes> i like very much
[22:14] <nes> howmuch?
[22:15] <bastidrazor> cuddylier: if you would register you could get in the mysql channel. you refuse to do so.
[22:15] <rbrooks> it sounds leet
[22:15] <Xabster> you noob, nes!
[22:15] <cuddylier> I did earlier
[22:15] <cuddylier> I tried /register
[22:15] <nes> :D
[22:15] <cuddylier> I also registered by user name, cuddylier
[22:15] <cuddylier> On freenode
[22:15] <cuddylier> Still couldnt get in the channel
[22:15] <idlemind> guide on how to setup mysql: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/mysql.html
[22:15] <Xabster> yeah, and did you then login, cuddylier ?
[22:15] <Xabster> like it tells you to
[22:15] <cuddylier> What was the command for that, I probably did
[22:20] <BobMarley> i get the following errors when using some UI
[22:20] <BobMarley> http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/69338658/1/tt?h=842232
[22:21] <BobMarley> the latest oe is for aqemu
[22:21] <BobMarley> the black one
[22:23] <nickrud> quiet in here
[22:23] <BobMarley> nickrud,  no i have some questions
[22:26] <nickrud> qemu isn't something I've used in a few years so I'm not the one to ask. Just noticing that the scroll rate is readable
[22:31] <acicula> BobMarley: what are you having trouble with?
[22:32] <BobMarley> acicula, in installing ubuntu ghost with qemu
[22:32] <camsex34m-> slm
[22:32] <AminosAmigos> this channel if flooded with "joins and quits !
[22:32] <AminosAmigos> camsex34m-@  slm
[22:33] <zykotick9> AminosAmigos: so disable joins/quite in your client!?
[22:33] <BobMarley> acicula,  but i have istalled the aqemu ui and it seems that i can run an iso and install hte ghost, at this time it is running the instalatio
[22:34] <nintet> the guys at CentOS are really crabbu
[22:34] <nintet> crabby
[22:34] <nintet> i need help configuring a local user for vsFTP
[22:34] <nintet> what is a "jailed" user?
[22:35] <brandon2010> ok i need help i have 2 computers one running backtrack and the other running av linux i have a wireless adapter on backtrack for internet and want to setup a network so the other one will connect to the internet without a router is this possible???
[22:36] <zykotick9> !backtrack | brandon2010
[22:36] <ikonia> brandon2010: not really something #ubuntu deals with , try #backtrack-linux
[22:36] <brandon2010> ok ty
[22:36] <Dj_FlyBy> so I changed the power settings so that the hard disks and monitor never shut off/spin down ... but the PC continues to do so anyways..... any siggestions please?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> brandon2010: you should ask in #backtrack-linux   setting up a backtrack box as a router isn't too smart
[22:36] <Dj_FlyBy> suggestions**
[22:37] <notjoe> I have an interesting problem. I run a script on a remote server which spits out a lot of text fast. If i run it via a terminal on my laptop its find and my laptop is still very responsive. If I run it from my desktop its my whole system becomes laggy
[22:37] <anthropos> anyone know how to make a bootable windows live CD from ubuntu (I have a legit iso of windows 7)
[22:37] <notjoe> find=fine
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> anthropos: use unetbootin
[22:38] <anthropos> I don't want to install windows, I just want to make some kind of rescue environment where I can install firmware and such
[22:38] <maximilius> how can i tell "dd" to start writing the data to the "of=" after 100MB and not directly after, please?
[22:38] <anthropos> maximilius: i believe there is a skip option
[22:38] <maximilius> skip and seek
[22:38] <acicula> BobMarley: ah so its working then?
[22:39] <maximilius> cant decide which one, hmmm
[22:39] <f3ck4r> hi minna!
[22:39] <AreS`> /join #android-fr
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> anthropos: you can use bartpe + the ISO to make a live windows USB, if you just want to copy files, you can do that from Ubuntu  or Ubuntu liveCD
[22:42] <Dj_FlyBy> so I changed the power settings so that the hard disks and monitor never shut off/spin down ... but the PC continues to do so anyways..... any suggestions please?
[22:42] <anthropos> i just saw that on wiki, but ideally it would be something that supports win7 (bartpe supposedly only works with xp)
[22:42] <anthropos> I need to install somefirmware that is only available as a .exe and I don't have windows on my computer
[22:43] <f3ck4r> Dj_FlyBy: caffeine
[22:43] <BobMarley> acicula,  yes but it is very slow
[22:43] <notjoe> anthropos, make a dos boot disk
[22:43] <notjoe> there are plenty of 'live' cds just for that purpose
[22:43] <anthropos> I think it has a graphical frontend, but if not, then yeah that would be a good idea
[22:43] <anthropos> I can give it a shot
[22:44] <notjoe> worth a shot
[22:44] <anthropos> I just want to avoid flashing the firmware improperly...
[22:44] <gumus> hi all
[22:45] <gumus> which command should I use to compile C file including "math.h" ?
[22:46] <gumus> does anyone know how can I compile a c file including <mat.h> library
[22:46] <f3ck4r> include math.h
[22:47] <f3ck4r> volteiz
[22:47] <f3ck4r> lol
[22:48] <wolfmitchell> For some reason all the colors on open windows only inverted, and restarting the windows doesn't fix it.
[22:48] <wolfmitchell> Any help?
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[22:51] <randomDude> i'm looking for a way to further restrict the guest account, i'd like any network connections they create to disappear when they logout... (all nm-applet quick connected wifi points default to system owned)
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[22:52] <acicula> BobMarley: depending on your hardware that might not be uncommon
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[22:53] <acicula> BobMarley: is the install progressing or hanging?
[22:54] <wolfmitchell> Nvm about my problem...It seems when he left, the color fixed......
[22:54] <BobMarley> acicula, it is more hanging
[22:56] <acicula> BobMarley: doing the text based install? not having virtualization extensions doesnt help with speed but it should be working nonetheless
[22:56] <acicula> unless its really something archaic/low memory?
[22:58] <Dj_FlyBy> f3ck4r: that would be interesting except it is based around apps that have power saving inhibition issues. In my case I would have to add every single app installed to my PC as this happens no matter what I am doing. I thought there was something I could do inside my bios or Ubuntu settings or something to prevent this.
[22:59] <MrChrisDruif> acicula; how's it going?
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> acicula: installing in text mode makes it faster :)
[22:59] <sunya> hi. a few days ago I installed ffmpeg, and IIRC a few packages related to audio/video were replaced, but I don't remember which. Ever since both VLC and Totem have lots of problems seeking through an h264/mp4 file, leaving the audio and video completely out of sync, skipping frames, etc..  how can I undo what installing ffmpeg did? simply removing ffmpeg doesn't undo the replacement.
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> acicula: as in, the install process
[22:59] <acicula> ActionParsnip: thats why im asking him if he's doing that
[22:59] <f3ck4r> Dj_FlyBy: just add a program like a "terminal" which you have open anyway D;
[23:02] <anonymous_Umbrel> Hello www.anonymousdobrasil.blogspot.com
[23:04] <bastidrazor> anonymous_Umbrel: really? that site is bad.
[23:04] <f3ck4r> sunya: mplayer is the best player out there
[23:04] <zykotick9> f3ck4r: +1
[23:04] <shade34321> I'm using psh to test several nodes to see if a user can log onto them...what's a simple command I can use to execute, just need to makes ure he can access everything
[23:05] <acicula> whoami
[23:05] <sunya> f3ck4r: the problem isn't the player, it's the underlying libraries.
[23:06] <f3ck4r> just download them all
[23:06] <shade34321> acicula, good call
[23:06] <sunya> f3ck4r: I don't know what they are called.
[23:06] <Dj_FlyBy> sunya: have you tried removing and reinstalling vlc
[23:07] <_Marcus> bastidrazor: What is that site?
[23:07] <f3ck4r> sunya: take a look --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095
[23:07] <f3ck4r> this may solve your problem.
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> sunya: also try deleting the folder ~/.config/vlc    so you get vanilla settings
[23:08] <sunya> I'll try your suggestions, thanks.
[23:08] <bastidrazor> _Marcus: it is sillyness. avoid it
[23:09] <squibby> holy crap this channel is large. lol.
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> squibby: its the official channel for the fastest growing Linux distro, so yes :D
[23:11] <ofca> hello everyone!
[23:11] <log> Hello ofca.
[23:11] <ofca> my 1st time in irssi
[23:11] <BobMarley> ofca,   We're not very helloish around here, but  hello anyway.
[23:11] <ofca> this is the place to ask noobish ubuntu questions?
[23:12] <log> ofca: Yep. :-)
[23:12] <nickrud> always has been, probably always will
[23:12] <f3ck4r> sunya: regarding mplayer -> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:motumedia/mplayer-daily
[23:13] <ofca> fuck yea. expect noob bombing from my side :)
[23:13] <pangolin> !language | ofca
[23:13] <ofca> uh oh, pardon moa
[23:13] <pangolin> you mean moi and you're pardoned
[23:14] <ofca> pangolin: :)
[23:15] <ofca> any other irc chanels for rails or vim?
[23:15] <nickrud> I've forgotten, what's the syntax to get private answers from ubottu?
[23:15] <Dulak> ofca: #vim
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> nickrud: !factoid > yournick
[23:16] <nickrud> thanks
[23:16] <pangolin> nickrud, /msg ubottu !factoid
[23:16] <ofca> Dulak: on wich / connect?
[23:17] <pangolin> ofca, /join #vim
[23:17] <pangolin> to join a channel
[23:17] <cincinnatus> Does Ubuntu have a bootloader configuration tool?
[23:17] <cincinnatus> I tried StartUp-Manager, but it can't even parse the default config
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> cincinnatus: you can edit the configs, what is it you wan to achieve?
[23:22] <pier_> ubuntu.it? sorry?
[23:24] <log> !it | pier_
[23:26] <omesso>  irc.tiscali.it
[23:38] <VikingIV> Hello all
[23:38] <Salinas-MG> application of network signal wirelless
[23:39] <Salinas-MG> I need a graphics application for viewing wireless network
[23:39] <Salinas-MG> status...
[23:39] <VikingIV> If i'd like to migrate my installation of Ubuntu 10.04 to a newer machine, would I have serious issues if I tried mirroring it to the new machine's drive?
[23:39] <VikingIV> or is it necessary for a fresh installation?
[23:40] <Salinas-MG> Hello VikingIV .. help me
[23:40] <Dulak> VikingIV: it would probably be easier and faster to install fresh on the new machine and just mirror /home over across the network.
[23:41] <VikingIV> Dulak, okay thanks. I didn't know how well it would recognize new hardware from an old installation. I guess I'll have to migrate my package profile as well?
[23:41] <VikingIV> I'd like all of my applications to remain.
[23:41] <bastidrazor> !clone
[23:42] <warrior_> ehi
[23:43] <Dulak> VikingIV: you can get a list of installed packages and feed the list to the new machine to make that rather painless
[23:43] <Dulak> Ahh crap, he left.
[23:43] <warrior_> wubi 64 or 32 bit?
[23:44] <_r00t_> anyone know if I can do-release-upgrade from 10.10 -> 12.04 ?
[23:44] <bastidrazor> _r00t_: directly no. you'll have to go 10.10 > 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04
[23:44] <techboy> hmm
[23:45] <_r00t_> bastidrazor: :(((((((((((((...........
[23:45] <techboy> can anyone recommend me a video editor that allows you to put pictures/videos on top of clips and has subtitle support?
[23:45] <warrior_> FloodBot1
[23:46] <bastidrazor> warrior_: state an actual question and you may get an answer if someone knows it.
[23:46] <_r00t_> bastidrazor: I did manage to go from 11.10 beta to 12.04 beta - I guess that was a simple step up
[23:47] <raydog45000> I just recently set lamp up on my ubuntu desktop and am trying to convert it to pure server, I can access it via ssh on mylocal host, does anyone know a good guide to make it accessible from the net or know how?
[23:47] <bastidrazor> _r00t_: okay.
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> techboy: pitivi maybe...?
[23:49] <hasaan> hi
[23:49] <_r00t_> hmmmmm I wonder what happens if I try do-release-upgrade -p
[23:49] <camsex34m-> heloooooooooooooooooo
[23:50] <maximilius> what is the problem with these vboxusers/groups with virtualbox and usb devices?
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> maximilius: you need the closed source vbox if you want usb access
[23:50] <hasaan> can't open synaptic package manager. it shows...an error occured, E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[23:50] <hasaan> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.''
[23:50] <Dulak> maximilius: They gyp you on usb with the OSE version of vbox
[23:50] <maximilius> ActionParsnip: hmph
[23:50] <Helsinkiii> hi
[23:51] <bastidrazor> hasaan: did you run the command it suggested?
[23:51] <Helsinkiii> does Tor automatically make you an exit node when you install it?
[23:52] <f3ck4r> Helsinkiii: nope
[23:52] <Helsinkiii> f3ck4r, oh, ok
[23:52] <Helsinkiii> f3ck4r, thanks
[23:52] <camsex34m-> heloooooooooooooooooo
[23:52] <Helsinkiii> exit
[23:52] <hasaan> ok, i got it.................
[23:52] <Dulak> Helsinkiii: you are a bridge node by default iirc
[23:52] <hasaan> thanks
[23:52] <_r00t_> lol : wassip camsex34m-
[23:53] <abdelrhman> one here work in voip ?
[23:53] <abdelrhman> sip
[23:55] <anthropos> tor does not make you an exit node nor a bridge by default
[23:55] <mdel> hey all -- what would be the best way to connect to a remote server and modify code using a GUI editor
[23:55] <mdel> SFTP?
[23:56] <mdel> a more pointed question - is SFTP or NFS better suited for remote editing of files
[23:56] <_r00t_> mdel: what is your client OS ?
[23:56] <f3ck4r> anthropos: he is already gone. i think he don't understand the concept of exit node or a bridge / relay
[23:56] <Dulak> mdel: lan or wan?
[23:56] <mdel> _r00t_: ubuntu, wan
[23:56] <anthropos> he probably understands that he doesn't want to be an exit node, though :)
[23:57] <mdel> sftp works fine (im using sublime text 2, btw)
[23:57] <Dulak> mdel: sftp then, nfs is a lan thing
[23:57] <mdel> Dulak: that's what I thought, but I was lead to believe otherwise
[23:57] <anthropos> sftp makes way more sense
[23:57] <anthropos> for a wide variety of reasons
[23:57] <f3ck4r> anthropos: yeah
[23:57] <_r00t_> mdel: ssh -Y remotehost  ...... on the remote host run kate or something and the windows will tunnel back to your client
[23:58] <Dulak> mdel: Oh you could do nfs, but it would be nearly unusable due to the latency.
[23:58] <f3ck4r> i do when it need (bridge)
[23:58] <_r00t_> mdel: it might be a little slow on WAN but is perfect on a LAN


[02:39] <ahoneybun> hey all
[03:28] <ahoneybun> Darkwing: hello
[04:19] <ScottK> !ninjas | 4.11 Beta 1 tarballs available for packaging.
[05:19] <valorie> ahoneybun: I think I over-reacted earlier about the managing repositories page
[05:20] <valorie> otoh, I really think that using the cli commands is a lot better and easier than editing the sources list as sudo
[05:21] <valorie> I'm not going to rewrite a section I already wrote, however
[05:23] <valorie> I like the page as it is, except for that
[05:36] <ScottK> valorie: You aren't recommending running a KDE editor using sudo are you?
[05:37] <valorie> I'm not, but that page does
[05:37] <valorie> not kdesudo even
[05:38] <valorie> :(
[05:38] <valorie> I think using apt-add-repository is the best cli method
[05:41] <Tm_T> valorie: yes
[05:43] <valorie> there is nothing wrong with linking to an official ubuntu page about the old way to manage repositories by editing the source list, but I don't like the idea of us advocating it
[05:43] <Tm_T> valorie: I agree
[05:47] <ScottK> valorie: It shouldn't recommend using things like kate for editing as sudo.  They aren't really designed for it.
[05:47] <ScottK> AFAIK, Krusader is the only KDE app that is.
[05:48] <Tm_T> no gui app should be run with sudo
[05:48] <Tm_T> simple rule that keeps you safe
[05:48] <ScottK> True.
[05:49] <ScottK> Acutall software-properties-kde is fine too.
[05:49] <ScottK> Actually
[05:49] <ScottK> Which, when activated though Muon is a nice way to do.
[05:49] <ScottK> do/go
[05:49] <valorie> naturally
[05:50] <valorie> but one generally doesn't invoke that with sudo
[05:50] <valorie> rather it asks for passw at the proper time
[05:51] <ScottK> right.
[05:52] <ScottK> That's what the basic documentation ought to cover since it's the KDE/gui way to do it right.
[05:52] <valorie> yup
[05:54] <valorie> ok, fixing
[05:56] <valorie> ok, looks like ahoneybun had already removed that stuff
[05:56] <valorie> :-)
[05:56] <valorie> thanks, ahoneybun
[06:14] <valorie> done
[06:17] <soee> good morning
[06:57] <shadeslayer> yofel: did you upload 4.10.80?
[07:00] <shadeslayer> doesn't look like it
[07:11] <shadeslayer> yofel: Riddell 4.10.80 script running for saucy on server
[07:11] <shadeslayer> the power went out, so I'll have to shut down my PC, but hopefully the script will be done till the power comes back
[07:12] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/772112 what I used for the package list
[07:12] <shadeslayer> ( has the split modules )
[07:14] <shadeslayer> cya
[08:24] <shadeslayer>   #MISSING: 0.4.2# (optional=gccinternal)_ZN6Attica19DownloadDescription7PrivateD1Ev@Base 0.4.0
[08:24] <shadeslayer>   #MISSING: 0.4.2# (optional=gccinternal)_ZN6Attica19DownloadDescription7PrivateD2Ev@Base 0.4.0
[08:24] <shadeslayer> both of those are private symbols and can be dropped right ^^
[08:32] <apachelogger> yofel, shadeslayer, Quintasan: so, what would you have me do?
[08:32] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: about the symbol... they can be dropped depending on who you ask
[08:35] <apachelogger> Riddell: https://trello.com/c/5Y2980oz
[08:35] <apachelogger> I am raesonable certain we had a patch in kate...
[08:37] <apachelogger> debian/patches/kubuntu_kate_initial_preference.patch
[08:38] <apachelogger> ah yeah
[08:38] <apachelogger> it's not applied
[08:38] <apachelogger> nice
[08:39] <apachelogger> hold on
[08:39] <apachelogger> what
[08:40] <apachelogger> that's broken in raring
[08:40] <apachelogger> it's broken in raring since dec 5
[08:40] <apachelogger> WTF
[08:42] <apachelogger> and kate isn't even watched by kubuntu-bugs
[09:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I've already told you, IMHO it doesn't make sense NOT to use LP for kf5 modules since they don't have submodule history
[09:11] <shadeslayer> fine for Qt5
[09:12] <apachelogger> and how do you want the packaging for qt5?
[09:12] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: re i10n for kio mtp, can we SRU that?
[09:12] <apachelogger> all in one branch
[09:12] <apachelogger> all in different branches
[09:12] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: whatever suits you
[09:12] <apachelogger> in bzr? or in git? or in mercurial
[09:12] <shadeslayer> I have no personal preference regarding that
[09:12]  * apachelogger throws keyboard
[09:13] <shadeslayer> again, no preference :P
[09:13] <apachelogger> I am not a neon developer, I am here to serve you for once
[09:13] <shadeslayer> whatever works for you
[09:13] <apachelogger> so tell me your fing opinion for the love of darth vader
[09:13] <shadeslayer> heh
[09:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you'll be fetching Qt5 from git, so IMHO it makes sense to use git for everything Qt5 related
[09:14] <shadeslayer> and bzr for kf5
[09:15] <apachelogger> right then, one git repo or one per package? or one branch per package in one repo (why that would be confusing...)
[09:15] <apachelogger> also where to put it?
[09:15] <shadeslayer> per branch would be confusing IMHO
[09:16] <shadeslayer> how many Qt5 modules are there?
[09:16] <shadeslayer> put it in gitorious?
[09:16] <apachelogger> some 10 modules I think
[09:17] <shadeslayer> okay, then 10 git repos ... shouldn't be too bad?
[09:17] <shadeslayer> I have to go out for a bit
[09:17] <apachelogger> yofel, Quintasan: are you ok with some 10 git repos containing the packaging or would you prefer something else?
[11:14] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I have not problems with that
[11:14] <Quintasan> as in 10 git repos
[11:14] <Quintasan> apachelogger: We are currently working like this with neon so +10 repos won't change much IMO
[11:25] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:31] <soee> shadeslayer, you guys already working on 4.11 beda ?
[11:31] <soee> *beta
[11:32] <shadeslayer> yus
[11:32] <shadeslayer> drat, I don't have my keys imported on this saucy install
[11:32] <soee> shadeslayer, for Saucy ? are you planning to backport it ?
[11:33] <shadeslayer> yes
[11:33] <shadeslayer> saucy comes first though
[11:33] <soee> shadeslayer, ok thank you
[11:34] <shadeslayer> np
[11:34] <shadeslayer> you can help too :)
[11:34] <shadeslayer> there are a bunch of splits, someone needs to package those
[11:42] <shadeslayer> is there any point in keeping kubuntu_oxygenify_knetattach_icon.diff
[11:46] <Riddell> shadeslayer: why wouldn't you?
[11:46] <shadeslayer> Riddell: what I mean is, is there a point in keeping this packaging ? why not forward upstream?
[11:46] <shadeslayer> I'm not even sure what knetattach does :S
[11:47] <shadeslayer> KDE Network wizard
[11:47] <shadeslayer> so many wizards on my PC
[11:47] <shadeslayer> doing their magic
[11:48] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: just commit upstream, that tool is pretty much not maintained...
[11:49] <shadeslayer> k
[11:51] <shadeslayer> there's also kubuntu_nodisplay_knetattach.diff
[11:53]  * shadeslayer rages
[11:54] <Riddell> shadeslayer: dolphon -> Network -> Add Network Folder
[11:54] <shadeslayer> kubuntu_shutup_shutup_shutup.diff
[11:54] <Riddell> that's knetattach
[11:54] <shadeslayer> ah
[11:54] <shadeslayer> okay
[11:54] <Riddell> no reason for it to be in the app menu
[11:55] <shadeslayer> true
[11:56] <apachelogger> knetattach was cluttering the menu, that's what the nodisplay solves
[11:56] <apachelogger> it's also part of the network slave, that's what the icon thingy solves
[11:57] <shadeslayer> roger
[11:58] <skaet> hiya Riddell,   is Kubuntu participating in Alpha 1 next week?
[11:59] <shadeslayer> mmm ... if I can get otto to work, hopefully we won't need alpha's and beta's like ubuntu :P
[12:00] <shadeslayer> apparently otto can even record a video of things
[12:00] <Riddell> shadeslayer: otto?
[12:00] <skaet> shadeslayer,  otto?  link please?
[12:00] <shadeslayer> http://launchpad.net/otto
[12:00] <shadeslayer> GUI testing framework using LXC
[12:00] <Riddell> ah yes your magic testing thing
[12:00] <shadeslayer> yes
[12:00] <Riddell> however not by next week I'd think
[12:01] <shadeslayer> probably not
[12:01] <Riddell> skaet: so yes we should be in on alpha 1
[12:01] <shadeslayer> I've sent logs to jibel, haven't heard back on what could be going wrong
[12:01] <skaet> Riddell,  coolio.
[12:02] <shadeslayer> okay, akademy flights booked \o/
[12:05] <Riddell> yay
[12:17] <Riddell> hmm, libical transitions has found some packages that don't compile anyway in saucy, gnome-panel kmymoney openchange
[12:37] <apachelogger> yofel, shadeslayer: see latest comments on bug 156575
[12:46] <Riddell> oh ug, all this rebuilding ical rdep packages makes me realise how nice cmake and kde are
[12:47] <Riddell> oh no config.guess and config.sub changed! must stop the package rebuild!
[12:54] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I still think that you have to ask for dbgsym to be enabled
[12:54] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: see comment 21
[13:16] <Riddell> evolution-data-server build-depends on libqt5?  interesting
[13:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yes
[13:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: but the original concern with that was that it would bloat the regular ppa
[13:18] <shadeslayer> yes
[13:18] <apachelogger> which is not the case anymore
[13:19] <shadeslayer> oh?
[13:19] <shadeslayer> how so?
[13:23] <shadeslayer> mm .. worthwhile to merge akonadi again?
[13:23] <shadeslayer> or should I just upload 1.9.80
[13:26] <shadeslayer> anyone?
[13:28] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what's new to merge?
[13:29] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://ftp-master.metadata.debian.org/changelogs//main/a/akonadi/akonadi_1.9.2-2_changelog
[13:29] <shadeslayer> installs Qt plugins to Qt plugin dir
[13:31] <Riddell> shadeslayer: depends if we care about people who use sqlite backend
[13:31] <Riddell> since it's reported to be unreliable dunno if we care
[13:32] <Riddell> but then it might be useful for mobile stuff and you like mobile stuff :)
[13:35] <shadeslayer> heh, using sqlite is too far in the future for mobile things right now ;)
[13:35] <shadeslayer> cd
[13:35] <shadeslayer> whoops
[13:47] <shadeslayer> oh wow
[13:47] <shadeslayer> debootstrap now lists versions when debootstrapping packages
[13:55] <ahoneybun> np valorie :)
[13:59] <Riddell> "ical 1.0 needs backporting, requested by kdepimlibs upstream"
[14:39] <Riddell> apachelogger: calligra beta needs libphononexperimental-dev, is this wise?
[14:46] <apachelogger> not really
[14:46] <apachelogger> whatever they are using is never going to get into libphonon4
[15:08] <soee> is there some widget thatt allows to pick color from colors pallete ?
[15:12] <Riddell> shadeslayer: kcolorchooser?
[15:12] <Riddell> or is that an app
[15:12] <Riddell> there is one anyway
[15:17] <jessie> Anyone have a Twitter app for KDE they like.
[15:18] <jessie> ?
[15:22] <ahoneybun> jessie: there is one
[15:22] <Riddell> rekonq?
[15:22] <ahoneybun> choqok
[15:22] <ahoneybun> seems good
[15:23] <jessie> ahoneybun: Yeah, but Twitter depreciated their v1.0 API as of Tuesday, so it's broken now. :-/
[15:23] <jessie> I think I'll spend some time tonight fixing that.
[15:23] <ahoneybun> oh
[15:23] <ahoneybun> did not know I don't really use twitter
[15:26] <Riddell> jessie: http://momeny.wordpress.com/2013/06/12/choqok-will-back-soon/
[15:27] <jessie> Riddell: Already commented on that bug. ha
[15:29] <ahoneybun> Riddell: what kind of things will KDE 4.11 bring?
[15:29] <Riddell> ahoneybun: it'll be 0.1 better!
[15:30] <Riddell> ahoneybun: I don't know, they'll  be discussing it now in kde-promo what messages to spread
[15:30] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I hear talk of Plasma Workspaces 2
[15:33] <Riddell> ahoneybun: not in 4.11, that'll be along with kde frameworks 5
[15:33] <ahoneybun> yea but I have heard about it
[15:35] <jessie> Everything using QT 5?
[15:36] <Riddell> it will in kde frameworks 5
[15:36] <Riddell> which is not due for another year
[15:36] <Riddell> and Plasma Workspaces 2 will be after it
[15:36] <ahoneybun> oh ok]
[15:36] <Riddell> 4.11 is the usual six monthly release
[15:36] <ahoneybun> 4.11 will be supported for 2 years though
[15:37] <Riddell> for what definition of support?
[15:38] <ahoneybun> updates
[15:38] <ahoneybun> I believe
[15:39] <ahoneybun> Riddell: can you look at the Docs and see what we need? (I like more then one person's opinion)
[15:41] <murthy> hello everyone
[15:47] <Riddell> ahoneybun: sure, but probably not this afternoon, already got a full todo
[15:48] <ahoneybun> Riddell: thats fine I just like more people to look so I can get a better picture of where we are at
[17:28] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1190685] ktouchpadenabler failed to work on ASUS A53S laptop @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1190685 (by 林博仁(Henry Lin) a.k.a. Ｖ字龍(Vdragon))
[17:50] <yofel> finally home
[17:50] <yofel> I didn't manage to even touch the notebook in the office today as we got new furniture and were cleaning out the attic. Took all day -.-
[17:53] <yofel> shadeslayer: I *think* you didn't create a kdesc-dev-latest-saucy.txt?
[17:54] <yofel> Otherwise I don't get why we have successfull builds without kdelibs
[18:27] <Dummies_freelanc> hello i want download kubuntu with plasma active.
[18:27] <Dummies_freelanc> can help me?
[18:27] <Dummies_freelanc> how to?
[18:28] <Dummies_freelanc> i use parabolagnulinux ,  based in arch
[18:28] <Dummies_freelanc> can use plasma acive  in this distro ?
[18:28] <jessie> Dummies_freelanc: You will probably get a better response in #kubuntu.
[18:31] <Dummies_freelanc> thanks jessie
[18:34] <Dummies_freelanc> jessie:  i have one panel multitouch infrared  by usb  this device work with kubuntu
[18:35] <jessie> Dummies_freelanc: I'm not understanding you, sorry. Are you talking about something like the Leap Motion?
[18:36] <Dummies_freelanc> no i building one application with qt and qml .. similar to movile but of 32 inch.
[18:37] <Dummies_freelanc> them i try that  the SO support the gestures.
[18:38] <genii> Dummies_freelanc: I just gave you the link in #kubuntu
[18:39] <Dummies_freelanc> ok
[18:49] <Dummies_freelanc> no exist for 64 bits
[18:53] <genii> Dummies_freelanc: Correct.
[18:53] <Dummies_freelanc> why ?
[18:53] <genii> Dummies_freelanc: But as I said, the 32bit version works fine on 64bit systems.
[18:53] <Dummies_freelanc> mm ok i try instal 32 bits in 64 bits
[18:54] <Dummies_freelanc> ok download and install
[19:02] <juancarlospaco_> Hello Kubuntu Jedis, Question:  Why is not Kobby packaged on Kubuntu ?
[19:14] <BluesKaj> juancarlospaco_, ask in #kobby
[19:16] <BluesKaj> there's supposed tob e an active chat on freenode for kopbby , but it looks empty
[19:16] <BluesKaj> err kobby
[19:21] <juancarlospaco_> :(
[19:23] <jessie> :-/ I'm having issues getting choqok to compile right.
[19:32] <jessie> CMAKE_BUILD_PREFIX should be /usr on 13.04, yeah?
[20:19] <shadeslayer> yofel: I think I did ... but the file looks a bit wonky
[20:20] <shadeslayer> anyway, I also forgot to push bzr -.-
[20:20] <shadeslayer> pushing that now, will sort out packaging tomorrow
[20:25] <shadeslayer> hooray : qemu-arm-static: /build/buildd/qemu-linaro-1.0.50-2012.03/user-exec.c:100: handle_cpu_signal: Assertion `({ unsigned long __guest = (unsigned long)(address) - guest_base; (__guest < (1ul << 32)) && (!reserved_va || (__guest < reserved_va)); })' failed.
[20:26] <shadeslayer> that indicates that it's time for me to head to bed
[21:33] <Quintasan> question of the day
[21:33] <Quintasan> http://wstaw.org/m/2013/06/13/before.png
[21:33] <Quintasan> after I restart plasma-desktop
[21:33] <Quintasan> http://wstaw.org/m/2013/06/13/after.png
[21:33] <Quintasan> WHYYYYYYYYYYY
[22:02] <Quintasan> ScottK: How many DD signatures on my key I need to become one?
[22:41] <ScottK> Quintasan: One.
[22:41] <Quintasan> ...
[22:41] <Quintasan> Wait.
[22:41] <Quintasan> ScottK: Stefano is a DD, right?
[22:41] <ScottK> Yes.
[22:41] <Quintasan> ScottK: and bdrung?
[22:42] <ScottK> Yes.
[22:42] <Quintasan> Well, that makes it two
[22:42] <Quintasan> I can pester for yours for additional prestige if any comes with you signature :P
[22:42] <ScottK> Quintasan: https://nm.debian.org/public/person/bdrung
[22:43] <ScottK> Please do.
[22:43] <ScottK> I keep forgetting when I am at the right place to do it.
[22:43] <Quintasan> ScottK: in approximately how many hours are you going to find yourself in the appropriate location?
[22:43] <ScottK> With free time?
[22:44] <ScottK> Probably 28 - 30.
[22:45] <Quintasan> ScottK: I see, I'm going to ping the hell out of your nickname then
[22:45] <Quintasan> Wait.
[22:45] <ScottK> We'll see if that works ...
[22:45] <Quintasan> There is one critical flaw with my plan
[22:45] <Quintasan> 30 hours from now it's going to be middle of morning
[22:45] <Quintasan> I might have to implement apachelogger's broken policy for tomorrow
[22:46] <ScottK> ;-)
[22:46] <Quintasan> ScottK: Considering we are in waaaaay different timezones that kind of implies not going to bed at all.
[22:47] <ScottK> Sleep is for the weak.
[22:47] <ScottK> We've discussed this before.
[22:47]  * apachelogger nods
[22:48]  * ahoneybun_ likes sleep too much
[22:48] <Quintasan> apachelogger: You like broke your policy ones, no nodding here :P
[22:48] <Quintasan> once even*
[22:50] <Quintasan> ScottK: I believe we did but one can't simply study 48 hours straight
[22:51] <ScottK> This is what caffeine and sugar are for.
[22:51]  * Quintasan looks around
[22:52] <Quintasan> There are 7 coffee mugs on the table
[22:52] <Quintasan> I have nothing to put coffee in ScottK, I think I can inject that directly into bloodstream then
[22:53]  * genii hears something about coffee, wanders in, then back out again
[22:54] <Quintasan> genii: Do you have a highlight on coffee?
[22:54] <genii> Quintasan: Yes :)
[22:55] <Quintasan> Wow
[22:55] <Quintasan> Almost like apachelogger who has highlights on
[22:55] <Quintasan> python
[22:55] <Quintasan> and beer
[22:55]  * genii contemplates adding beer to the highlight list
[22:55] <Quintasan> kubotu: order beer for genii
[22:55]  * kubotu gives genii a nice frosty mug of beer.
[22:56] <apachelogger> \o/ beer \o/
[22:56] <genii> Woo!
[23:17] <ahoneybun_> Hello all


[09:40] <mzanetti> hey. any ETA on the Mir 0.8.0 release?
[09:41] <mzanetti> asking because I'd need to release rtm silo 23 but there seems to be a conflict we need to coordinate on
[09:42] <duflu> mzanetti: I'm not so sure it should exist at all, at least not in utopic/rtm :) I've documented my concerns and camako can decide
[09:42] <mzanetti> ack
[09:42] <duflu> We don't really gain anything other than risk, compared to the stable 0.7 series
[09:43] <duflu> (which has been working for a while now)
[09:43] <mzanetti> so I'm going ahead with silo 23, given that's already tested and just waiting to be QA signed off
[10:00] <duflu> Wow. That should never have built...
[10:00] <duflu> (unrelated to previous conversation)
[13:16] <camako> mzanetti, 0.8 is not ready.. So go ahead.. We'll rebuild and retest anyways..
[13:26] <mzanetti> camako: ack, thanks
[13:31] <alan_g> mzanetti: camako is working on it
[13:31] <alan_g> Hmm that was a bit late
[13:31] <mzanetti> :)
[14:12] <kdub_> recvmsg is a terrible function


[00:28] <Unit193> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-co/3452-ubuntu-16.10-yakkety-yak-release-party-with-system76/ be dead.
[05:50] <PaulW2U> ^ fixed, 16.10 >> 1610
[21:24] <PaulW2U_> editorial review done
[21:29] <pleia2> thanks PaulW2U_
[21:30] <tsimonq2> pleia2: Need help releasing?


[13:54] <bluesabre> knome: oh yeah?
[13:54] <knome> yep
[13:54] <knome> but we can do that next week
[13:54] <bluesabre> ok
[13:54] <bluesabre> working on menulibre this weekend, will start implementing all your feature bug reports
[13:54] <knome> hmmh
[13:55] <knome> wondering what LP project i should use for filing a bug in xubuntu generally
[14:01] <Unit193> So docs, some are pretty close: de.po   44.2822%, es.po   66.91%, fr.po   71.7762%, ru.po   65.2068%, fi.po   99.5134%
[14:02] <knome> :)
[14:07] <knome> bug 1369100
[14:08] <knome> pleia2, slickymaster, ^ you might be interested :)
[14:11] <elfy> I would be
[14:11] <knome> you too :)
[14:11] <elfy> I'd be interested to know if people come via my sig on the forum too :)
[14:12] <knome> do you point directly to the freenode webchat?
[14:12] <elfy> yea
[14:12] <knome> mhm
[14:12] <knome> then just change that url
[14:12] <elfy> http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=xubuntu
[14:12] <knome> ah
[14:14] <knome> http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=xubuntu&nick=xubuntu..f&prompt=1
[14:14] <knome> use that
[14:14] <elfy> changing
[14:14] <knome> of course, you can't force the users not to change their nicks with prompt=1
[14:15] <elfy> no - but general dropins from a link would probably not bother
[14:15] <knome> yep
[14:15] <elfy> changed it now
[14:15] <knome> then just don't use prompt :)
[14:17] <elfy> I see you did the website one
[14:17] <knome> yep, and working on the docs one
[14:17] <elfy> cool
[14:18] <knome> pushed
[14:20] <knome> working on the slideshow one
[14:21] <elfy> :)
[14:21] <knome> there's no "elfys-forum-signature" package/project
[14:21] <knome> boo!
[14:21] <elfy> lol
[14:25] <knome> ok, pushed slideshow
[14:25] <knome> bluesabre, we need to get ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu into the xubuntu packageset
[14:26] <bluesabre> ok, I'll poke Laney about that later today.  He was on vacation last week and seems to be the only person who does packageset maintenance
[14:26] <knome> aha
[14:26] <knome> :)
[14:26] <elfy> hi bluesabre
[14:27] <bluesabre> (re: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2014-September/000717.html)
[14:27] <bluesabre> hey elfy
[15:05] <GridCube> the spanish translation should be already about 80%
[15:06] <GridCube> i will have to poke the translation team again