[01:37] <callmepk> good morning
[01:54] <duflu> Morning callmepk
[01:54] <callmepk> morning duflu
[06:44] <didrocks> good morning
[06:52] <duflu> Morning didrocks
[06:53] <didrocks> hey duflu
[07:02] <callmepk> morning didrocks
[07:03] <Wimpress> Good morning o/
[07:04] <callmepk> morning Wimpress
[07:06] <Wimpress> Is it time for ☕
[07:08] <callmepk> It's time for the third ☕ of the day
[07:09] <Wimpress> 🙂
[07:16] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers, happy Friday!
[07:16] <ricotz> good morning :)
[07:17] <jibel> Good morning desktoppers
[07:18] <callmepk> morning oSoMoN ricotz jibel
[07:20] <oSoMoN> good morning ricotz, jibel, good afternoon callmepk
[07:36] <jibel> Hi callmepk oSoMoN
[07:51]  * ricotz is desperately waiting for libreoffice armhf autopkgtest to finish
[07:55] <Nafallo> salut desktopers
[08:02] <Wimpress> marcustomlinson jamesh I assume I can follow the pattern in this snapcraft.yaml to include GTK4 themes?
[08:02] <Wimpress> https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gtk-theme-traditionalhumanized/-/blob/master/snapcraft.yaml
[08:03] <Wimpress> Or should the GTK4 bits go under the same path as GTK3?
[08:15] <duflu> Hi Wimpress, ricotz, jibel, Nafallo
[08:16] <jibel> hi duflu
[08:19] <Nafallo> new ergonomic physical desktop environment arriving today :-D
[08:20] <duflu> You mean a desk? :)
[08:21] <Nafallo> desk: arozzi arena moto, chair: arozzi vernazza, keyboard: logitech ergo k860
[08:26] <duflu> Nafallo, oh I built one similar (out of my old desktop). All electronic now. Love it
[08:35] <Nafallo> keyboard arrived. going to take some time to get used to I think :-)
[08:41] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[08:41] <duflu> Hi seb128
[08:42] <seb128> hey duflu , how are you? getting ready for the weekend?
[08:42] <jamesh> Wimpress: I don't know.  In retrospect I kind of wonder if it was a mistake to have different interface IDs for GTK 2 and GTK 3
[08:42] <duflu> seb128, I'm always getting ready for the weekend. It involves piling up the jobs I haven't had time to do yet :) How are yoi?
[08:42] <duflu> you?
[08:43] <jamesh> Wimpress: For now, I'd just make the GTK 4 theme data available from your gtk-3-themes slot
[08:46] <seb128> duflu, a bit tired and frustrated with the noise and disruptions around but week was alright and it's friday :)
[08:50]  * duflu wonders why glib2.0 is not transitioning and then remembers it's glib
[08:50] <duflu> migrating even
[08:52] <seb128> duflu, https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#glib2.0
[08:52] <duflu> Yes I was looking at that
[08:52] <duflu> seb128, what was the page for Debian versions available?
[08:52] <duflu> to sync
[08:53] <seb128> duflu, https://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/desktop-packages.html ?
[08:53] <duflu> seb128, Thanks
[08:53] <seb128> np
[08:54] <oSoMoN> as if I wasn't already busy enough with browser updates: https://blog.chromium.org/2021/03/speeding-up-release-cycle.html
[08:54] <duflu> Ugh. Of course upstream pipewire just tagged a new version too
[08:55]  * duflu hugs oSoMoN
[08:55] <seb128> oSoMoN, :-(
[08:55] <seb128> lut oSoMoN
[08:56] <seb128> oSoMoN, it's now for now so we have a cycle to figure out how we adapt and can help you there
[08:58] <oSoMoN> seb128, yeah, I'm not too worried, but I don't like this trend of shortening release cycles, next thing we know browser vendors will announce that they adopt a rolling release model and we should build from trunk…
[08:58] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, my gjs test fixes were all merged upstream, could you please take a look at https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gjs/-/merge_requests/16 ?
[09:01] <Laney> morning
[09:02] <duflu> Morning Laney
[09:03] <oSoMoN> morning Laney
[09:06] <seb128> hey Laney, happy sunny and cold friday! how are you?
[09:12] <marcustomlinson> morning Wimpress callmepk oSoMoN ricotz jibel Nafallo duflu seb128 jamesh Laney
[09:13] <Nafallo> o/ marcustomlinson :-)
[09:13] <duflu> Hi marcustomlinson
[09:13] <Nafallo> morning seb128
[09:17] <jibel> Good morning marcustomlinson
[09:18] <oSoMoN> hey marcustomlinson
[09:20] <Laney> moin marcustomlinson
[09:33] <Laney> duflu: if you want to know how to answer the question of 'can a package be synced yet?', you can see for example https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/pipewire/+publishinghistory
[09:34] <Laney> once it's there, Launchpad knows about it and it's a valid source for copying
[09:34] <duflu> Laney, ta
[09:41] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson, Nafallo, jibel
[09:43] <Laney> oops I forgot to moin you all back, lucky Marcus
[09:44] <marcustomlinson> :)
[09:45] <jibel> Hi seb128
[14:37] <seb128> oSoMoN, the e-d-s transition migrated now ;-)
[14:38] <PuttySandwich> Does anyone know how to reconnect a user to an encrypted home? I had to re-install my system and I have a user with an encrypted home. I had to do this once before a long time ago and I have a vague recollection of just having to symlink something. But my experiments with that have failed. Google has also been unhelpful.
[14:38] <oSoMoN> seb128, yes, and I made good progress on the libraw one, although there are still a couple of build failures I need to investigate
[14:38] <seb128> oSoMoN, sucessful +1 shift!
[14:39] <oSoMoN> seb128, yeah, thanks to your pointers once again :)
[14:48] <seb128> np!
[15:02] <Laney> hmm libreoffice/armhf failed in the new upload
[15:05] <oSoMoN> urgh
[15:07] <Laney> try again?
[15:07] <seb128> tests?
[15:08] <Laney> oui
[15:08] <Laney><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:08] <seb128> I already hit the retry button on https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/libr/libreoffice/hirsute/armhf if that's what we are talking about
[15:08] <seb128> (mentioning to avoid having more people doing the same)
[15:09] <seb128> (I did like 10 minutes ago)
[15:09] <seb128> it's the only blocker for the poppler transition to migrate now :-/
[15:10] <Laney> I thought I'd ask before hitting retry, since I don't know if this says retry will work or there's a bug :-)
[15:10] <Laney> but ok if you did it already
[15:12] <seb128> sorry, it would perhaps have been smarted to ask or investigate
[15:12] <seb128> just got used to hit retry for libreoffice tests
[15:13] <Laney> if they're that bad then maybe ricot_z can fit in some work to make them more reliable
[15:13] <Laney> the time won back would be significant
[15:13] <seb128> https://trello.com/c/icBpMvXF/121-libreoffice-fix-armhf-builds-and-re-enable-armhf-tests right? ;)
[15:14] <Laney> I don't know
[15:14] <Laney> if your previous 'got used to' is about armhf then yes I gues sso
[15:14] <seb128> I mean we are talking about fixing those flaky tests for years
[15:14] <Laney> so*
[15:14] <Laney> if it's more broad than that then no
[15:14] <seb128> yes, I was speaking about libreoffice/armhf
[15:14] <Laney> anyway, not clear if you are pushing back on asking for some work there
[15:15] <Laney> the timeout workaround did get applied fwiw
[15:15] <Laney> and this is not a uicheck-* which failed this time
[15:15] <seb128> I agree it would be nice to get them improved
[15:25] <Laney> good, let's do it!
[15:26]  * Laney eyes netplan too
[15:26] <Laney> seems flappy
[15:26] <Laney> last blocker for glib I think
[15:42] <juliank> We see that Alt+Tab and clicking in windows is broken in hirsute now
[15:42]  * juliank gotta downgrade something
[15:43] <Laney> 'We'?
[15:43] <juliank> Alt+Tab switches between two windows without the alt+tab switcher appearing, and clicking in windows does not change focus
[15:43] <juliank> Laney: other foundations guy and me
[15:43] <juliank> the gnome-shell update seems small
[15:44] <juliank> well in version anyway
[15:46] <juliank> downgrading mutter and shell
[15:46] <juliank> and it works again
[15:46] <juliank> yay
[15:46] <Laney> [bug report welcome] :-)
[15:47] <hellsworth> hey folks what does FTBFS mean in the context of the (+1 maintenance reports)?
[15:47] <hellsworth> also good morning
[15:48] <Laney> hey hellsworth
[15:48] <Laney> it means faild to build (from source)
[15:48] <hellsworth> aaaah ok
[15:48] <hellsworth> thanks
[16:31] <Laney> I tried the junit test on my rpi and it failed in that same way
[18:42] <kenvandine> juliank: i filed bug 1917926 for that
[18:42] <kenvandine> i ran into it as well
[18:43] <kenvandine> juliank: can you "me too" that?


[15:27] <ngochai>  Hi guys, my Xorg server crashes like this http://pastebin.com/qXATtm4s any idea?
[15:31] <infinity> ngochai: You might want mlaankhorst, or to file a bug, or both.
[15:33] <ngochai> mlaankhorst?
[15:53] <infinity> ngochai: mlankhorst even.  I can't spell.
[15:53] <infinity> ngochai: As in, the guy who did all the backports for that HWE stack you're using.
[16:20] <ngochai> infinity, thanks


[00:10] <Bluefoxicy> Really wishing for a system download manager here
[00:10] <Bluefoxicy> Got a 1GB file  downloading in Chrome and if the connection drops in the middle of it or Chrome crashes (which happens with relative frequency--it got an update a week ago and ceased to function until restarted) I have to start over
[00:11] <Bluefoxicy> and chromium won't reveal the downloading URL, and it's non-trivial to get out of the download landing page because stupid people.
[13:53] <avorp> Test
[13:53] <avorp> Hi all,.
[13:53] <avorp> I need help with making a boota
[13:53] <avorp> *I need help in making a bootable usb linux live
[13:58] <avorp> On this computer I haven't permissions to install software, so I need someone to upload the installed version.


[00:14] <rsalveti> robru: I need to rebuild a few projects, usually I'd just bump changelog and dput them, but how should we do for the ones we're also the upstream project and part of CI train?
[00:15] <rsalveti> no changes, just a rebuild
[01:04] <robru> rsalveti, if the project is in a silo, you can FORCE_REBUILD in the jenkins jobs
[01:04] <rsalveti> robru: not yet in a silo
[01:06] <robru> rsalveti, i don't understand. you need to rebuild something in the archive?
[01:06] <rsalveti> yes
[01:06] <rsalveti> I could probably just bump the changelog and dput directly I guess
[01:06] <robru> rsalveti, ok, so propose a null merge (branch trunk, push it to a new branch, and propose it back to trunk without any changes). then you can put that MP in a silo, then build & test the silo, and if it's successful, publish the silo
[01:07] <rsalveti> right
[01:07] <robru> rsalveti, you *could* do that, but just make sure you push the changelog back to trunk after, or it confuses citrain)
[01:07] <rsalveti> yeah, was afraid of that :-)
[01:07] <rsalveti> will have a big landing on monday then, just a bunch of rebuilds
[01:08] <robru> rsalveti, how big? like qt52 big?
[01:09] <rsalveti> ~20, 30 projects
[01:09] <robru> ugh, just dput them. ;-)
[01:10] <rsalveti> haha, yeah, might be easier
[01:10] <rsalveti> just rebuilds anyway
[01:10] <robru> rsalveti, yeah, this was the issue we had with qt5.2, there were dozens of no-change rebuilds, it was a disaster. locked up citrain for weeks. citrain just doesn't scale very well when you have that many rebuilds going on
[01:11] <rsalveti> yeah, exactly
[01:24] <imgbot> [01:25] <imgbot> [01:44] <rsalveti> finally
[01:47] <ogra_> hmm
[01:47] <ogra_> seems dropping the push service wasnt didiers best idea today ... i dont get any updates offered
[01:50] <ogra_> aha, reboot helped
[02:04] <imgbot> [03:29] <imgbot> [03:30] <imgbot> [03:30] <ToyKeeper> D'oh, I just finished flashing 290.
[03:30]  * ToyKeeper -> up, enter, wait
[03:55]  * robru -> EOD
[03:55] <robru> EOW!!
[03:55] <robru> have a good weekend everybody
[03:59] <ToyKeeper> Huh.  Never noticed that before.  Contacts -> add works, but Dialer -> Contacts has no "add new contact" function.
[04:03] <ToyKeeper> Oops, need an extra phone to test this.
[13:21] <jhodapp> hey sergiusens, you around?
[13:22] <sergiusens> jhodapp: for abit now, then off and then on again
[13:22] <sergiusens> want a rebuild of something?
[13:22] <jhodapp> sergiusens, can you kick off a qtubuntu-media build in 17?
[13:22] <sergiusens> we should get you access :)
[13:22] <jhodapp> fixed the unittests
[13:22] <jhodapp> lol, indeed :)
[13:25] <ogra_> sergiusens, cjwatson was looking for you yesterday for https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/phablet-tools/click-buddy-pass-framework/+merge/214744
[13:26] <sergiusens> ogra_: thanks, I'll get that in; hard to get a silo today though
[13:26] <sergiusens> should I just dput?
[13:27] <ogra_> if it is safe
[13:27] <ogra_> just test a few more times than usual i guess :)
[13:27] <sergiusens> ogra_: it's a script :-)
[13:27] <jhodapp> lol
[13:28] <ogra_> heh, right, and trivial too
[13:28] <sergiusens> jhodapp: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/landing-017-1-build/27/console
[13:28] <ogra_> i guess you can just go ahead
[13:28] <jhodapp> sergiusens, thank you sir :)
[13:30] <jhodapp> wait till you both try seeking in mediaplayer-app out, it's as responsive as music-app now
[13:31] <jhodapp> alright, I'm out
[13:31] <sergiusens> :-)
[13:31] <jhodapp|afk> have a great day sergiusens and ogra_
[13:31] <ogra_> you too
[14:44] <imgbot> [14:45] <ogra_> popey, ^^^that has the location service fix
[15:07] <popey> ogra_: awesome, thanks
[15:10] <popey> ogra_: tried contact sync?
[15:10] <popey> there's a "sync" button in contacts, just pressed it and it says "Syncing..." - does that work?
[15:21] <popey> ooh, lots of contacts appeared
[15:21] <popey> this changes everything :D
[15:22] <ogra_> heh
[15:34] <jhodapp|afk> ogra_, on a fresh install of the latest build when I apt-get upgrade, I'm getting this:
[15:34] <jhodapp|afk> Unpacking lxc-android-config (0.160) over (0.159) ...
[15:34] <jhodapp|afk> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/lxc-android-config_0.160_all.deb (--unpack):
[15:34] <jhodapp|afk>  unable to make backup link of `./lib/udev/rules.d/70-android.rules' before installing new version: Invalid cross-device link
[15:35] <jhodapp|afk> ogra_, and if you reboot, the shell doesn't come up
[15:35] <ogra_> jhodapp|afk, yeah, lxc-android-config cant be cleanly upgraded thats a filesystem design issue with dpkg ...
[15:35] <ogra_> you can do: dpkg -x /var/cache/apt/archives/lxc-android-config_0.160_all.deb /
[15:36] <jhodapp|afk> ok
[15:36] <ogra_> that will at least unpack it on top (will also print errors though)
[15:36] <jhodapp|afk> yeah: tar: ./lib/udev/rules.d/70-android.rules: Cannot open: File exists
[15:36] <jhodapp|afk> tar: ./etc/init/ssh.override: Cannot open: File exists
[15:36] <ogra_> yep
[15:37] <jhodapp|afk> but I should be all good at least?
[15:37] <ogra_> yes
[15:37] <ogra_> err, wait on what image are you doing that
[15:37] <ogra_> you need at least 290 for lxc-android-config 0.160
[15:38] <jhodapp|afk> ogra_, where do I find that build number again in the filesystem?
[15:38] <ogra_> system-image-cli -i
[15:38] <jhodapp|afk> it's a daily rootfs, no build #
[15:38] <jhodapp|afk> just downloaded it a few mins ago
[15:39] <ogra_> oh
[15:39] <ogra_> using rootstock ?
[15:39] <ogra_> or how did you install
[15:40] <ogra_> in any case lxc-android-config 0.160 needs a very recent initrd
[15:40] <jhodapp|afk> rootstock, yes
[15:40] <ogra_> what you can try is to just run "update-initramfs -u" (ignore all the errors, they are harmless)
[15:40] <jhodapp|afk> rsalveti's install instructions: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7227996/
[15:41] <jhodapp|afk> ok
[15:41] <ogra_> right, the instructions are fine if you did use a recent boot.img (newer than 290)
[15:41] <ogra_> that has the corresponding changes for lxc-android-config
[15:42]  * ogra_ needs to go afk again ... back later
[15:42] <jhodapp|afk> ogra_, ah, we must need to update that then
[15:42] <jhodapp|afk> thanks ogra_, it seems fine now
[16:14] <imgbot> [16:15] <imgbot>