[10:52] <sacarlson> fuzzynurfhurter: but what is this package you are trying to compile?
[10:52] <fuzzynurfhurter> can any 1 help me with a linksys wireless usb??
[10:53] <fuzzynurfhurter> leafpad
[10:53] <sacarlson> fuzzynurfhurter: I'm not sure what's on the dvd distrubution
[10:53] <fuzzynurfhurter> k i never got that 1 lol friend gave me these
[10:53] <eph3meral> sacarlson, so I still don't have the option to connect to a wireless networks
[10:54] <eph3meral> usually I get a list of wireless networks, also I usually have an option to "enable wireless" along with the option to "enable networking" but the only option I currently have is to "enable networking"
[10:54] <fuzzynurfhurter> mines no even theret
[10:54] <eph3meral> there is no "enable wireless" option
[10:54] <eimis> I'm wondering if anyone here has dv7-6153ea laptop and were able to install official switchable gfx ATI driver..?
[10:55] <sacarlson> fuzzynurfhurter: you do realize there is already leafpad in the ubuntu repository the is precompiled?
[10:55] <sacarlson> !leafpad
[10:56] <fuzzynurfhurter> not in this 1
[10:56] <fuzzynurfhurter> i have abiword
[10:56] <sacarlson> fuzzynurfhurter: you will need to install the package offline
[10:56] <fuzzynurfhurter> im trying to
[10:57] <Arash> hello , how can I fix my bootpage ?
[10:57] <Arash> Win7 doesn't seem to boot up
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> eph3meral: what wireless chip are you using?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> fuzzynurfhurter: abiword has quite a lot more features than leafpad..
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Arash: if you run:  sudo update-grub    does it list Windows?
[10:59] <fuzzynurfhurter> it wont op edititen a file to
[10:59] <Arash> let me see
[10:59] <Arash> yes It does
[10:59] <Arash> but the problem is I edited the Win7 (Loader)
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> fuzzynurfhurter: there is gedit in a default Ubuntu, also there is vi and nano default installed for CLI based editting
[10:59] <Arash> with EasyBCD
[10:59] <silver_star_iri> Who works with monit ?
[11:00] <fuzzynurfhurter> k well im gonna just have to move it to the router room and connect to the net lol
[11:00] <fuzzynurfhurter> and get it all
[11:00] <eph3meral> ActionParsnip, bcm4311
[11:00] <eph3meral> ActionParsnip, I've got the STA drivers installed through jockey
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | eph3meral
[11:01] <eph3meral> ActionParsnip, aka "Additional Drivers"
[11:01] <eph3meral> ActionParsnip, yeah, i read that already, I'm wary of doing any of those things because last time I tried to install my wireless without using jockey i really screwed up my system
[11:01] <sacarlson> fuzzynurfhurter: sounds like you should look at the program keryx that runs on multiplatform to gather needed deb packages to enable you to install offline https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[11:02] <fuzzynurfhurter> k i will check that out later
[11:02] <sacarlson> fuzzynurfhurter: oh ya if connecting to an wired net is an option you should have done that instead
[11:03] <AnalDialate> Anybody here sick and tired of fucking nigger apes?
[11:03] <AnalDialate> I am!
[11:03] <FloodBot1> AnalDialate: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:03] <AnalDialate> That is why I am a member of a forum called Chimpout Forum!  The link is here! http://www.chimpout.com/forum
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[11:03] <AnalDialate> This special niggerhating forum is not white supremacist!
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[11:03] <k1l> !ops
[11:04] <judgen> please stop
[11:05] <judgen> ubuntu = an south african distro for all humans
[11:05] <Tm_T> judgen: ignore that spam
[11:05] <elky> judgen, they're bored kids being trolls. we're dealing with them as they show up
[11:05] <judgen> ok
[11:05] <Arash> still having the problem
[11:06] <sacarlson> eph3meral: maybe rfkill?
[11:06] <eph3meral> sacarlson, tried it
[11:06] <eph3meral> sacarlson, didn't do anything useful that i could see
[11:06] <sacarlson> eph3meral: does it even see the device?
[11:06] <eph3meral> sudo rfkill unblock wifi;
[11:06] <eph3meral> did nothing
[11:06] <eph3meral> sacarlson, define "it"?
[11:06] <eph3meral> you mean rfkill?
[11:07] <eph3meral> i don't really know what rfkill is, I just read a random command on a blog
[11:07] <Aitor> Hola.
[11:07] <Aitor> ¿Me ayudais?
[11:07] <eph3meral> sacarlson, ActionParsnip https://bugs.launchpad.neAt/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/977550
[11:07] <Aitor> hello?
[11:07] <sacarlson> eph3meral: rfkill list; ?
[11:08] <Aitor> sacarlson
[11:08] <Tm_T> hello Aitor
[11:08] <Aitor> Tm_T
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> !es
[11:08] <Aitor> Help me.
[11:08] <eph3meral> 0: dell-wifi: Wireless LAN
[11:08] <sacarlson> eph3meral: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/rfkill
[11:08] <eph3meral> soft-blocked: no
[11:08] <eph3meral> hard-blocked: no
[11:09] <Arash> any help ?
[11:09] <sacarlson> eph3meral: ok
[11:09] <Arash> I need help with my bootscreen
[11:09] <eph3meral> sacarlson, sorry, that documentation is pretty meaningless to me
[11:09] <eph3meral> sacarlson, "rfkill is a tool to manage rfkill" <- circular definition :(
[11:10] <sacarlson> eph3meral: well from you show it sounds like it's not rfkill so ; sudo lsmod
[11:10] <sacarlson> eph3meral: you will need to pastebin that
[11:11] <eph3meral> sacarlson, http://pastie.org/private/vt7fbjsipyc8jb0lif53a
[11:12] <BlueEagle> Arash: Well just restore the backup you made before the edits and you should be OK again I guess.
[11:13] <sx_usr__> guys, how do I setup my ubuntu 12.04 to make my Planex USB dongle act as AP?
[11:14] <Northstar> good morning folks
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> eph3meral: do you dual boot?
[11:14] <eph3meral> ActionParsnip, yes
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> eph3meral: in WIndows disable the ability for the interface to wake up the OS as well as disable the power management
[11:15] <sx_usr__> anyone here running kernel 3.4.0 on Ubuntu 12.04 and having problem running VMWare Workstation?
[11:15] <eph3meral> ActionParsnip, ok, do you happen to know where I go to do that?
[11:16] <eph3meral> which control panel etc
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> eph3meral: device manager
[11:16] <eph3meral> k
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> eph3meral: it can affect it because windows is junk
[11:16] <sacarlson> eph3meral: oh now I see this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/977550
[11:16] <eph3meral> ActionParsnip, so, just to be clear, disable power management on the device itself specifically or disable power management in the OS completely?
[11:16] <sx_usr__> how do i import vmware images into virtualbox?
[11:17] <eph3meral> sacarlson, yes, I pasted that earlier
[11:17] <eph3meral> sacarlson, that has a link to the rfkill command
[11:17] <eph3meral> the rfkill command did nothing for me
[11:17] <aetoxx> I get the following error: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. What is the command to show all held broken packages?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> eph3meral: just on the device, as well as disable its ability to wake the OS up
[11:18] <eph3meral> ActionParsnip, btw, afaik this device was working fine under 11.10
[11:18] <jiohdi> aetoxx, you can see them in synaptic
[11:18] <eph3meral> and I didn't need to touch anything related to power etc on the device in windows
[11:18] <aetoxx> jiohdi, how?
[11:18] <jiohdi> aetoxx, you can try to repair them with apt-get install -f
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> eph3meral: its worth removing to be sure its not affecting it
[11:18] <aetoxx> jiohdi, I pressed the button to repair them and it gave no response.
[11:18] <jiohdi> aetoxx, synaptic has a category for broken
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> eph3meral: its just the device only, not all of windows
[11:18] <eph3meral> k
[11:19] <s1> привет, есть русскоговорящие?
[11:19] <oCean> !ru | s1
[11:20] <theo`> hi
[11:20] <|Long|> hi my desktop sharing apps keep crashing, is there a cmd to restart it?
[11:20] <sx_usr__> |Long|, yes, ctrl+alt+del
[11:20] <deepspeed_> Guys, what are the good audio production/recording chans on this server?
[11:20] <oCean> !alis | deepspeed_
[11:21] <|Long|> sx_usr__, thanks
[11:21] <sx_usr__> deepspeed, audio control pro
[11:21] <deepspeed_> thanks
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> deepspeed_  try #ubuntustudio
[11:22] <aetoxx> jiohdi, apt-get install -f shows no problems after running it, but running an apt-get install <list of packages> does.
[11:22] <deepspeed_> ok
[11:22] <jiohdi> aetoxx, remove and reinstall?
[11:25] <Ashish> can someone help me ??
[11:25] <eph3meral> ActionParsnip, ok so that didn't change anything
[11:25] <sx_usr__> Guest94737, yes, i can help you
[11:26] <eph3meral> ActionParsnip, I did disable power management on the wireless device specifically, through the device manager in windows
[11:26] <sacarlson> eph3meral: so you already tried this sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source as it shows here http://nfolamp.wordpress.com/2011/10/15/ubuntu-11-10-getting-wireless-bcm4311-working/
[11:26] <sx_usr__> eph3meral, no way...is this windows or ubuntu?
[11:26] <eph3meral> rebooted, i'm back in Ubuntu now, and I still don't have anything labeled "enable wireless"
[11:27] <sx_usr__> eph3meral, you are in deep shit, reinstall ubuntu
[11:27] <oCean> sx_usr__: mind your language here
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> eph3meral: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i firm    does it say anything about missing firmware?
[11:27] <eph3meral> sx_usr__, I'm trying to get my wireless installed in Ubuntu 12.04
[11:27] <sx_usr__> eph3meral, or try kernel 3.4.0
[11:27] <eph3meral> ActionParsnip, one sec
[11:27] <aetoxx> jiohdi, that makes no sense. Reinstall what?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> sx_usr__: its a wifi driver only, nothing 'deep' at all
[11:27] <jiohdi> aetoxx, whetever is broke
[11:28] <eph3meral> ActionParsnip, [   13.198831] [Firmware Bug]: Duplicate ACPI video bus devices for the same VGA controller, please try module parameter "video.allow_duplicates=1"if the current driver doesn't work.
[11:28] <eph3meral> is the only message I have when I run dmesg | grep -i firm
[11:28] <sx_usr__> ActionParsnip, ok
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> eph3meral: is that it?
[11:28] <eph3meral> ActionParsnip, yep, that's it
[11:28] <aetoxx> jiohdi, yeah, really helpful.
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> eph3meral: cool, ok if you run:  sudo iwlist scan    do you see SSIDs?
[11:28] <eph3meral> one sec
[11:29] <eph3meral> ActionParsnip, nope
[11:29] <eph3meral> lo        Interface doesn't support scanning.
[11:29] <eph3meral> eth0        Interface doesn't support scanning.
[11:29] <eph3meral> that's the only output i get from sudo iwlist scan
[11:29] <sx_usr__> eph3meral, i get that too
[11:30] <sx_usr__> eph3meral, but my wifi works
[11:30] <eph3meral> I can in fact add "connections" under "edit connections"
[11:30] <eph3meral> i added one wireless connection
[11:30] <eph3meral> but it still doesn't show up as something I can actually connect to
[11:30] <sx_usr__> eph3meral, i think u need to be in promiscuous mode to scan it
[11:30] <eph3meral> and again, as I said, I am used to having to menu items "enable networking" and "enable wireless"
[11:30] <eph3meral> i don't have "enable wireless" only "enable networking"
[11:31] <sx_usr__> eph3meral, i would suggest you install kernel 3.4
[11:32] <oCean> sx_usr__: don't suggest a kernel that is not in the repositories
[11:32] <idontkn0w123> do you know why its possible that wireless doesnt work for me with kernel 3.4.3 and 3.4.4 but with 3.4.1 it does?
[11:32] <eph3meral> yeah i somewhat doubt that kernel 3.4 will fix the problem
[11:33] <oCean> idontkn0w123: 12.04 does not come with 3.4 kernel
[11:33] <cucu> hi all
[11:33] <sx_usr__> eph3meral, can u use 12.10 instead?
[11:34] <oCean> sx_usr__: just stop if you don't know how to fix his issue
[11:34] <eph3meral> 12.10 is out already?
[11:34] <eph3meral> lol
[11:34] <eph3meral> oCean++
[11:34] <idontkn0w123> yes i know. i have 3.4.1 installed and everything works. but if try 3.4.3 or .4 my wirless network card is no recorganized anymore
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> sx_usr__  12.10 ?
[11:34] <oCean> eph3meral: no, just ignore that advice
[11:34] <oCean> idontkn0w123: 3.4 is not supported here
[11:35] <idontkn0w123> ah ok. i thought perhaps someone knew a possible solution to my problem :)
[11:35] <Ashtricks> help me i tried installing Ubuntu precise using wubi and selected 30 gb installation and now i have 73 Gb left out of my 180 gb partition !!
[11:36] <Ashtricks> And last time it took the whole of 180 Gb
[11:36] <sx_usr__> Ashtricks, we only support native ubuntu installation here
[11:36] <Segnale007> hello folks
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> Ashtricks  wubi is inside windows, you may want to install normally, alongside windows
[11:36] <eph3meral> ActionParsnip, oCean, the odd part is that my wireless driver shows up as installed/activated and "working" in the "Additional Drivers" panel
[11:36] <eph3meral> i know i've gotta be so close, I can almost taste it
[11:36] <Ashtricks> @ Sx_usr
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> eph3meral: is the system a laptop?
[11:37] <eph3meral> i just don't know this subsystem well enough to know how to actually poke around enough to see what got misplaced
[11:37] <Ashtricks> i tried navite install also there are errors
[11:37] <eph3meral> ActionParsnip, yep
[11:37] <oCean> sx_usr__:  nonsense! Ashtricks wubi is supported  also
[11:37] <Segnale007> I have realized Ubuntu 12.04 is a little bit too much slow on my vaio I3 2.4GHZ 4GB ram 1033mhz and 500GB hdd 5400rpm
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> eph3meral: have you got fully updated using a wired connection?
[11:37] <Ashtricks> thanks <oCean>
[11:37] <Segnale007> when I open like the browser or thunderbird, the nautilus
[11:37] <Segnale007> or whatever
[11:37] <eph3meral> Segnale007, use something like XFCE instead then, or maybe OpenBox/FluxBox
[11:37] <eph3meral> ActionParsnip, yes I'm on the ethernet right now
[11:37] <Segnale007> it takes some time to open up the apps
[11:37] <idontkn0w123> install 2d session^^
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Segnale007: probably not installed the display driver
[11:37] <eph3meral> ActionParsnip, ethernet works fine on this laptop, it's built in, no issues there
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> eph3meral: cool, that makes life a lot easier
[11:38] <Segnale007> ActionParsnip, I did installed the driver correctly
[11:38] <Segnale007> its an ATI 5000HD
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Segnale007: what gpu do you use?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Segnale007: gotcha
[11:38] <Segnale007> and I downloaded, compiled and installed the driver
[11:38] <Segnale007> from ATI website
[11:38] <Segnale007> its just the UI slow responding
[11:38] <eph3meral> ActionParsnip, yeah, i do need the wireless though, this is my work laptop and gotta be able to get on to wireless at the office
[11:38] <mooperd> http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/31659 - Petition to put Alan Turing on the next £10 note.
[11:38] <eph3meral> don't think they've got any physical jacks there
[11:38] <Segnale007> eph3meral, I actually like Unity though
[11:38] <Segnale007> :(
[11:38] <eph3meral> i'm actually lucky I even found an ethernet cable for my house
[11:39] <oCean> mooperd: don't post such silly things here. It's quite offtopic
[11:39] <eph3meral> Segnale007, well if it's slow, then it sounds like there's something you don't like about it
[11:39] <Segnale007> uhm
[11:39] <sx_usr__> mooperd, kudos
[11:39] <Segnale007> thats true too
[11:39] <eph3meral> Segnale007, you don't really have much of a choice, stick with unity because you "like it" and admit that you "like it" enough that the speed tradeoff doesn't matter
[11:39] <Segnale007> do u guys experience any slowness in hunity ?
[11:39] <Ashtricks> its now almost 3 hours its installing and keep on installing !!
[11:39] <eph3meral> Segnale007, or install XFCE, LXDE or Fluxbox
[11:39] <sx_usr__> guys, vmware to virtualbox, howto do it?
[11:39] <Segnale007> uhm
[11:40] <sx_usr__> Segnale007, unity, no, hunity, wtf is that?
[11:40] <Segnale007> I think Ill give lxde a try
[11:40] <Segnale007> unity I meant
[11:40] <Segnale007> lol sorry
[11:40] <oCean> sx_usr__: how is that an ubuntu issue? Maybe ask in #vbox
[11:40] <idontkn0w123> try unity2d perhaps its faster
[11:40] <Segnale007> uhm ok idontkn0w123
[11:40] <Segnale007> I am gonna give it a try
[11:40] <Segnale007> yes I dont really care about 3d effects
[11:41] <Segnale007> I disabled all that compiz stuff
[11:41] <sx_usr__> Segnale007, upgrade your graphic card?
[11:41] <Segnale007> its a laptop
[11:41] <idontkn0w123> for me 2d session is running good. even with onboard gpu
[11:41] <Segnale007> and the graphic card is pretty good
[11:41] <sacarlson> sx_usr__: might just create a new virtualbox and see if it will accept the file format of your vmware image disk,  I think it does
[11:41] <Segnale007> ATI 5000HD .. its a 1GB dedicated gpu
[11:41] <eph3meral> besides, if my wireless card doesn't work
[11:42] <eph3meral> then I can't use my laptop while i'm on the john :P
[11:42] <cucu> guys iam new to linux and need help
[11:42] <sx_usr__> sacarlson, huh? virtualbox and vmware different
[11:42] <sx_usr__> cucu: help is on the way
[11:42] <sx_usr__> Segnale007, nice...
[11:42] <cucu> :) ok
[11:42] <sacarlson> sx_usr__: virtualbox accepts like 3 different vitual disk image formats and has some tools that can convert them
[11:43] <eph3meral> ActionParsnip, any other ideas of things I can poke at to investigate this issue?
[11:43] <oCean> cucu: just ask your question in the channel
[11:43] <cucu> ok
[11:43] <sx_usr__> sacarlson, okay, teach me please
[11:43] <morsnowski> eph3meral, I didn't follow this from the start what adapter do you have?
[11:44] <cucu> i have a labtop "toshiba l300-254
[11:44] <cucu> and ubuntu 12.04 cant get the vga right
[11:44] <sx_usr__> cucu: okay, and then?
[11:44] <eph3meral> morsnowski, bcm4311
[11:44] <eph3meral> morsnowski, generic broadcom/dell driver
[11:44] <sx_usr__> cucu: why vga??!! u should use higher than that
[11:44] <sx_usr__> cucu: vga is old
[11:44] <eph3meral> er, well not very generic, otherwise it wouldn't have a proprietary driver and it would actually work :/
[11:44] <sacarlson> sx_usr__: I didn't even know you had to convert them but you can do it that way http://zeldor.biz/2010/12/convert-vmware-image-vmdk-to-virtualbox-image-vdi/
[11:45] <cucu> :) ah, yea i mean the graphics chipset
[11:45] <cucu> its intel gm450
[11:45] <eph3meral> Segnale007, do you have the ATI drivers installed?
[11:46] <morsnowski> eph3meral, i take it you already trie all these http://askubuntu.com/questions/38327/how-can-i-get-broadcom-bcm4311-wireless-working
[11:46] <sx_usr__> cucu: hmmm....never heard of that chipset
[11:46] <eph3meral> Segnale007, that could actually be your problem, the 5000s aren't great, but they're real, if you've got the driver installed you should be able to use compiz no problem
[11:46] <sacarlson> sx_usr__: but the easy way http://blog.hutzoft.com/2010/10/18/importing-vmware-vmdk-disk-to-oracle-virtualbox/
[11:46] <Segnale007> eph3meral, yep I installed the latest ATI driver
[11:46] <eph3meral> morsnowski, i've read a few things, lemme take a look
[11:46] <Ashtricks> Ok after three hours it comes like this the error msg
[11:46] <sx_usr__> sacarlson, thanks!
[11:46] <Ashtricks> None type object has no attribute'get info'
[11:47] <Segnale007> eph3meral, its actually unity the problem .. being slow ..
[11:47] <cucu> the graphics acc. is Mobile Intel® GMA 4500M
[11:47] <Ashtricks> for more information see the log file
[11:47] <Segnale007> even when I boot the computer, it takes a little while to load the window manager after the login
[11:48] <eph3meral> Segnale007, yeah i can't stand unity, I didn't like many of the other options either, KDE sucks and GNOME 3 is only minorly worse than unity
[11:48] <Segnale007> :(
[11:48] <eph3meral> Segnale007, i use XFCE these days and I'm actually really liking it a lot - XFCE gets so many things right that gnome2 got wrong
[11:48] <Segnale007> I dont really know what to go with
[11:48] <eph3meral> Segnale007, you might want to just try plain GNOME 3
[11:48] <eph3meral> not unity, but actual factual GNOME 3
[11:48] <Segnale007> I dont want a poor window manager like twm or fluxbox on the laptop
[11:48] <eph3meral> Segnale007, the two are in fact slightly different
[11:49] <eph3meral> Segnale007, yeah XFCE is actually really nice these days, you might be surprised, it's pretty full featured
[11:49] <eph3meral> Segnale007, honestly, one thing that really pissed me off about GNOME 3 and the latest OSX
[11:49] <Segnale007> last time I played with xfe was 4 years ago on freebsd
[11:49] <eph3meral> Segnale007, was the fact that they removed the ability to put your virtual desktops in a grid
[11:49] <Segnale007> lol
[11:49] <eph3meral> you only get to have them in a row up and down, or sideways
[11:49] <Segnale007> yea I have seen that..
[11:50] <eph3meral> Segnale007, that single handedly made them unusable for me
[11:50] <Segnale007> even unity its more like OSX style .. and funny thing is I just got rid of my macbook pro a month ago
[11:50] <eph3meral> although, I have seen that at least on OSX, there is now a 3rd party app for getting back your grid desktops
[11:50] <eph3meral> but still
[11:50] <Segnale007> and I jumped back to linux after 7 years with mac
[11:50] <eph3meral> XFCE lets you have grid desktops
[11:50] <Segnale007> nice
[11:50] <Segnale007> will give it a try then
[11:50] <Segnale007> thanks :)
[11:50] <eph3meral> it really works pretty much the way you would expect the "traditional" "PC-ish" style computer would work
[11:51] <eph3meral> Segnale007, i don't remember exactly the command, I'm about to install it right now, myself
[11:51] <eph3meral> i'll let you know
[11:51] <eph3meral> I think it's xubuntu-desktop or something
[11:51] <Segnale007> should be something like that
[11:51] <cucu> how to i install the driver of the Mobile Intel® GMA 4500M graphics chipset in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[11:51] <Segnale007> I am watching some xfce video on youtube
[11:51] <Segnale007> so that I can have an idea of how it looks like
[11:52] <idontkn0w123> cucu,  you cant
[11:52] <cucu> ok, then should i install ubuntu 11 instead ?
[11:53] <idontkn0w123> why? there does not exist any proprietary intel driver for 4500gma
[11:54] <cucu> is there any way that i can get the labtop colors to be correct and not use windows ?
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> eph3meral: then use xfce if it does what you want...
[11:54] <eph3meral> ActionParsnip, i do...
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> eph3meral: problem solved
[11:54] <eph3meral> because, it does... o.0
[11:54] <eph3meral> there was no problem with XFCE
[11:54] <snitride369> hello everyone, i hope someone can help me, i am using xubuntu 12.04 with xfce destop, now what i want to do is, put the reboot, shutdown button back into main menue i followed this howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=342763 this also works but only if i execute the python script in a terminal, as soon as i add it as launcher in the mainmenue the python script asks me for sudo password... anyone? for clarification: script w
[11:55] <eph3meral> it was an unrelated conversation between me and Segnale007
[11:55] <_raven> 9 hours webcam recording using vlc is broken. ffmpeg, mencoder,avidemux and vlc cannot open it. how to repair this avi?
[11:55] <idontkn0w123> cucu, colours with external monitor or laptop display?
[11:55] <cucu> labtop display
[11:56] <sacarlson> _raven: file size to big for disk partition?
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> cucu  note: it's laptop, not labtop
[11:56] <cucu> ok thankyou
[11:56] <idontkn0w123> strange that your colors are not good by default oO. perhaps via system settings -> colors.
[11:56] <_raven> sacarlson no its ext4 - vlc seemed to crash anyway but it was not obviously
[11:57] <_raven> ~7 gb
[11:57] <cucu> it says it need an up to date color profile to be color managed
[11:57] <idontkn0w123> cant you add one?
[11:58] <cucu> i add a profile but it wont do calibration
[11:58] <idontkn0w123> hm
[11:58] <kodomo> hi folks - I'm having trouble starting gdm on an ubuntu 12.04 alternate installation - unfortunately, I don't see any real error message in syslog a warning that the client immediatly exited again... are there known bugs?
[11:58] <cucu> i think its using a generic driver instead of the intel one
[11:58] <theadmin> snitride369: Use this command to shutdown as a regular user (you MAY need to be in the "power" group, not sure if that's the case anymore): dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest="org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit" /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Manager org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Manager.Stop
[11:59] <kodomo> s/syslog a warning/syslog... only a warning/
[11:59] <oy> cucu, the profile needs to fit to your device
[11:59] <cucu> should it do that by default ?
[12:00] <oy> cucu, it can come either from the device vendor, a friends measured device or a own measurement of your specific device
[12:00] <sacarlson> _raven: I see this bug but it's old what version of vlc do you run https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/294136
[12:00] <oy> cucu, do you have such a profile?
[12:00] <theadmin> snitride369: Or, you can allow the "poweroff" and "reboot" command to be ran without a password using sudo, and simply use "sudo poweroff" or "sudo reboot"
[12:01] <cucu> no i tryed to search for drivers made for ubuntu but it seems like i Dont get the concept of ubuntu and drivers
[12:02] <oy> cucu, device colour management runs mostly on top of drivers for Linux
[12:02] <_raven> sacarlson i do not think so because its not vlc in special but some other tools too
[12:03] <oy> cucu, perhaps you can find a profile here(?) ->  http://icc.opensuse.org/
[12:03] <cucu> ok will chick that
[12:04] <oy> cucu, you mentioned windows, if that comes with a profile, or on e from your vendor, then you can use that as well
[12:05] <cucu> u mean i can use the windows xp drivers with ubuntu ?
[12:05] <oy> cucu, no, but the ICC profile for your monitor device
[12:06] <cucu> ah i c,, ok searching
[12:08] <cucu> no intel or toshiba in the menu
[12:09] <idontkn0w123> your monitor is not intel^^
[12:09] <cucu> ok, here is a question, how to i change the display resolution to a value thats not on the settings ?
[12:11] <cucu> forget that, i dont think thats the problem
[12:11] <cucu> how can i know the name of the driver the system is currently using for graphics ?
[12:11] <idontkn0w123> lshw -c video
[12:12] <cucu> ok
[12:12] <_raven> usr13 right, skype is a gui app - how to run it more than one time with different usernames?
[12:12] <oCean> cucu: lshw lists hardware. lspci -k lists the kernelmodule (driver) in use for each device
[12:12] <idontkn0w123> in the line configuration: driver= ...
[12:12] <oCean> idontkn0w123: isn't that just the suggested driver, or the driver actually in use? I'm not sure..
[12:13] <oooaaaoooo> hi guys just wondering is aptitude still included in ubuntu ?
[12:13] <oCean> !info aptitude
[12:13] <oooaaaoooo> in component main, is optional= not included?
[12:13] <theadmin> oooaaaoooo: Not by default.
[12:13] <oooaaaoooo> ok
[12:13] <theadmin> oooaaaoooo: You can apt-get install it though
[12:13] <oooaaaoooo> :)
[12:14] <idontkn0w123> oCean, for me lshw -c video show i915 and with lspci -k its also i915
[12:15] <idontkn0w123> oCean, for me lshw -c video show i915 and with lspci -k its also i915
[12:15] <idontkn0w123> ah double post srry
[12:16] <oCean> idontkn0w123: yeah, both give probably the actual driver
[12:16] <idontkn0w123> cucu, for you it should also be i915
[12:16] <idontkn0w123> startet my notebook with gma 4500m like yours, and it uses by default i915 driver
[12:17] <cucu> yes its i915
[12:17] <idontkn0w123> but as someone said above, the issue with the colors is not problem with gpu but with your display
[12:20] <cucu> ok, nothing useful in the display settings, diffrent resulotions changes almost nothing with the quality of display
[12:20] <Segnale007> I am trying gnome 3
[12:20] <Segnale007> it looks nice and its way faster than unity
[12:20] <Segnale007> I am sure not as fast as an xfce or fluxbox
[12:20] <cucu> brb, will try external monitor
[12:20] <Segnale007> but its good enough
[12:21] <Segnale007> however windows cannot be minimized in gnome 3 ?
[12:21] <morsnowski> Segnale007, sure you can minimize windows
[12:22] <Segnale007> how ?
[12:22] <Segnale007> I cant see the bottom
[12:22] <Segnale007> to minimize window
[12:22] <morsnowski> ok go into to compiz settings manager and enable them
[12:23] <Segnale007> oh ok
[12:23] <Segnale007> thanks
[12:23] <morsnowski> welcome
[12:23] <theadmin> Segnale007: The windows in Gnome Shell are managed in the Activities dashboard, just like about everything else.
[12:23] <Segnale007> :)
[12:23] <Segnale007> theadmin, yes I have seen I can arrange them there
[12:24] <theadmin> Segnale007: Well, that's where you find the minimized windows too
[12:24] <Segnale007> close applications or move to another desktop
[12:24] <cucu> hey , the external display works great
[12:24] <cucu> now i want my laptop screen to be like that
[12:25] <idontkn0w123> yopu need to find out you display name
[12:25] <sachael> is ubuntu 12.04 using plymouth for the boot splash screen?
[12:25] <theadmin> !info plymouth
[12:26] <theadmin> sachael: Yes.
[12:26] <cucu> how can i do that ? "sorry 4 being so clueless "
[12:26] <idontkn0w123> whats your notebook name and type?
[12:26] <sachael> so i installed xfce4 to try it, it changed the boot splash. I would like to get it back to the default one, or, ideally, preview some of the themes available without restarting for each one
[12:27] <theadmin> sachael: There are plymouth-... packages in APT, just install one of them
[12:27] <cucu> its toshiba l300-254
[12:28] <idontkn0w123> Satellite L300-254 ?
[12:28] <cucu> yes
[12:29] <BobMarley> my xchat crashes so many times, is that normal?
[12:29] <theadmin> BobMarley: No, obviously.
[12:30] <BobMarley> theadmin, so, why it crashes ?
[12:30] <theadmin> BobMarley: Well nobody can explain that without decent information. What's the last message on stdout or stderr before the crash?
[12:30] <aetoxx> What are the proper permissions for ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs ?
[12:31] <kevininspain> Hi. I am teaching my mother of 90 years old how to use Ubuntu !!. I need a screen caster but which shows a coloured circle where the mouse pointer is, any ideas please
[12:31] <jrib> aetoxx: mine are 600
[12:31] <morsnowski> BobMarley, what do you mean by crashinf
[12:31] <BobMarley> theadmin, how do i see that stdout or stder?
[12:31] <theadmin> BobMarley: Launch xchat in the terminal, see the messages it prints when it crashes
[12:31] <BobMarley> morsnowski, well i am talking on irc and it crashes suddenly
[12:32] <morsnowski> like in the window goes away or in connection lost or you get kicked ?
[12:32] <BobMarley> theadmin, you mean to run the xchat from the terminal?
[12:32] <theadmin> BobMarley: Uh yes, that's what I just said.
[12:33] <BobMarley> morsnowski, i dont know but the xchat closes sometimes and i dont know why, there is no connection lost
[12:34] <morsnowski> go with theadmin hint
[12:34] <BobMarley> ok
[12:35] <BobMarley> i never have done similar things, but after the xchat closes how do i check the stdout or stder?
[12:35] <morsnowski> watch the terminal window when it crashes
[12:36] <BobMarley> morsnowski, is that safe to run apps from the terminal?
[12:36] <morsnowski> is it safe to run xchat from the the link ?
[12:39] <BobMarley> morsnowski, well, theadmin, told me to run the xchat from the terminal, and i want to know if that is safe to run apps from the terminal! i have read somewhere that it is not very safe to run apps from the terminal
[12:39] <IronSight> BobMarley, it's not safe to run xchat in the terminal logged in as root...
[12:39] <theadmin> BobMarley: You misunderstood whatever you read.
[12:39] <morsnowski> as long s you run them in your user context its ok
[12:39] <eph3meral> so, the b43 driver does appear to "work", i now get a list of available wireless networks
[12:39] <IronSight> but if you are logged in as your user it's safe :)
[12:39] <theadmin> BobMarley: Simply open a terminal and type "xchat"
[12:40] <eph3meral> however, when i attempt to connect, it hangs forever, and then just comes back and asks me for the password again
[12:40] <eph3meral> i know the password is good, I'm copying and pasting it from the same document that I used when I copied and pasted in to my windows wireless settings
[12:40] <theadmin> eph3meral: Is wpa_supplicant installed? (just making sure)
[12:40] <eph3meral> theadmin, yes /sbin/wpa_supplicant
[12:41] <eph3meral> theadmin, originally I had the STA driver installed, but I wasn't getting any wireless anything, nothing in my network icon in the taskbar, nothing
[12:41] <eph3meral> theadmin, I uninstalled the STA driver and installed firmware-b43-somethingorother
[12:41] <eph3meral> as suggested by a few posts, but, as I said, it just sits there forever and won't actually connect
[12:42]  * noob
[12:42] <IronSight> There has got to be about a million posts about that driver in the forums
[12:42] <IronSight> it has been a pain in the butt for years now
[12:42] <morsnowski> eph3meral, good to see your making progress. did you reboot after installation ?
[12:42] <theadmin> eph3meral: Hm, if you do something along the lines of: sudo -i, and after that wpa_passphrase your_ssid "your_password" > /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf && echo "ctrl_interface=DIR=/var/run/wpa_supplicant GROUP=wheel" >> /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf && wpa_supplicant -B -Dwext -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf && dhcpcd -- does that connect?
[12:42] <eph3meral> morsnowski, yes i rebooted
[12:43] <eph3meral> er, I thought I was fairly good with bash, but... what does "foo" >> "bar" > /some/file do?
[12:44] <eph3meral> oh wait, i'm reading that wrong
[12:44] <eph3meral> sorry
[12:44] <Dawn262> lol
[12:45] <morsnowski> eph3meral, is that a hidden ssid?
[12:45] <eph3meral> morsnowski, nope
[12:45] <eph3meral> morsnowski, i can see it in the list of networks when I click on my network icon
[12:45] <morsnowski> than I'm out
[12:46] <eph3meral> i can select the network to attempt connecting
[12:46] <eph3meral> it asks me for a password, as it should
[12:46] <eph3meral> and then about 2-3 minutes later, it comes back and asks me for the password
[12:46] <morsnowski> can you play with one of the nwetworks and try different encryptions?
[12:46] <eph3meral> this never ends, just keeps asking for the password every 2-3 minutes
[12:46] <lijil> mysql 5.1 on ubuntu lucid: strange situation where SELECT COUNT(*) FROM foo WHERE id IS NULL returns a COUNT of 1! Happens on two tested 5.1 servers, not on 5.5. Anyone aware of a bug or change that could cause this? id is autoincrement and notnull
[12:46] <eph3meral> morsnowski, this was working fine on 11.10
[12:47] <Eagleman7> Can some 1 help met with creating a VLAN between my router and my server ( there is also another Switch between ) they all support tagged VLAN's
[12:47] <eph3meral> actually, I recall having some various issues with it on 11.10 but, as of a few hours ago (prior to installing 12.04) this self same wireless card was working on Ubuntu 11.10
[12:47] <eph3meral> though, tbh, i can't remember if it was STA or the B43 driver that I was using on 11.10
[12:49] <Eagleman7> I am trying to assign a WAN address to my server by using DHCP ( to get the ip from my ISP )
[12:49] <Eagleman7> I just cant get it to workm i've been trying it for like 5 hours
[12:49] <woox2k> hello
[12:49] <woox2k> anyone good with ubuntu on ppc here?
[12:50] <theadmin> Eagleman7: Shouldn't just running "dhcpcd" do the trick?
[12:50] <Eagleman7> theadmin the server isnt directly connected to the router
[12:51] <Eagleman7> there is a switch between with 2-3 more devices
[12:51] <theadmin> Eagleman7: Oh... wow
[12:51] <Eagleman7> Thats why i need a vlan
[12:52] <morsnowski> Eagleman7, are you certain that your router has dhcp taversing enabled?
[12:52] <morsnowski> by default those boxes don't allow dhcp traffic to pass
[12:52] <Eagleman7> its running openwrt
[12:52] <morsnowski> so ?
[12:53] <Eagleman7> Well before getting an IP address from my isp
[12:53] <Eagleman7> i need to get the vlan working
[12:53] <Eagleman7> if i am right
[12:54] <ffv> what are u guys talking about?
[12:54] <DJones> ffv: This is the Ubuntu support channel
[12:54] <morsnowski> i thnik that as long as you are behind the router you are going to have an issue, the router is actually to route traffic from your network to the isp's else you'd be looking for a switch
[12:55] <Eagleman7> I've been told that it is possible
[12:56] <Eagleman7> but i cant get the configuration right
[12:56] <markulable> Hi.
[12:56] <ffv> DJones: i just want to know what i can help
[12:56] <markulable> I need help
[12:56] <Eagleman7> ffv you have some knowledge of vlan's?
[12:57] <markulable> I need help
[12:57] <DJones> !ask | markulable
[12:57] <_raven> usr13 right, skype is a gui app - how to run it more than one time with different usernames?
[12:57] <morsnowski> Eagleman7, what is it you are trying to achieve
[12:57] <markulable> i need help with ubutnzu
[12:57] <markulable> i need help with ubuntu+
[12:57] <markulable> shitty keyboard i meant:
[12:57] <markulable> i need help with ubuntu
[12:57] <Eagleman7> wtf
[12:57] <_raven> how to run skype two times on the same system? any kind of "run as $user" possible?
[12:58] <markulable> _raven: sudo skype
[12:58] <Eagleman7> morsnowski i want my server to have a 84.107.***.*** address ( WAN IP Address )
[12:58] <Eagleman7> in ifconfig
[12:58] <markulable> i need help with ubuntu
[12:58] <Eagleman7> markulable where do you need help with.....
[12:58] <markulable> with ubuntu
[12:58] <markulable> 12.04
[12:58] <jrib> _raven: I wouldn't sudo skype....  But yes, you can run it as another user or check for configuration options that let you use another config option
[12:58] <jrib> _raven: I wouldn't sudo skype....  But yes, you can run it as another user or check for configuration options that let you use another config directory
[12:58] <Eagleman7> spam day or something?
[12:58] <morsnowski> Eagleman7, why
[12:58] <ffv> Eagleman7 : haha so far i just know wlan.. hey dont speak foup language
[12:59] <markulable> help me
[12:59] <markulable> help me
[12:59] <DJones> markulable: You haven't explained what your problem is yet
[12:59] <DJones> !details | markulable
[12:59] <Eagleman7> xD
[12:59] <markulable> well i think ubuntu 12.04 is not compatible
[12:59] <Sidewinder1> !details | markulable
[12:59] <markulable> with my pc
[12:59] <_raven> jrib i wont sudo skype for some reasons ;) but how to run it "as-user"?
[12:59] <jrib> _raven: you can use su - -c
[13:00] <markulable> well i think ubuntu 12.04 is not compatible
[13:00] <markulable> with my pc
[13:00] <Eagleman7> morsnowski so i can devide local network and external network
[13:00] <morsnowski> well what you'd usually do is have the server behind the router on your network and route the traffic as required
[13:01] <markulable> well i think ubuntu 12.04 is not compatible
[13:01] <markulable> with my pc
[13:01] <Eagleman7> like port forwarding
[13:01] <ffv> markulable with what of ur computer is it malfunction?
[13:01] <Eagleman7> But thats not what i want to achieve
[13:01] <morsnowski> if you want it on the wan you'd have to physically or at least logically place it there, but i doubt that openwrt is going to allow that
[13:02] <_raven> jrib will this run skype as user $user or as root? i WILL NOT run it as root!
[13:02] <jrib> _raven: you need to pass the user...
[13:02] <jrib> _raven: in more detail: su - -c COMMAND USER
[13:02] <Eagleman7> morsnowski i've been told that thats where vlan kicks in
[13:02] <Eagleman7> should make it possible
[13:03] <morsnowski> well the vlan could do it but then openwrt would have to allow you to ad a vlan that connects to the wan port and i doubt that is going to happen
[13:03] <_raven> jrib tnx ill try that
[13:04] <morsnowski> what you coudl do would be a switch into which you plug you modem the router and the server
[13:04] <Eagleman7> That would give me 2 times the same WAN address right?
[13:05] <morsnowski> no why?
[13:05] <Eagleman7> BTW i'm able to create a bridge between the VLAN and the WAN interface
[13:05] <morsnowski> the router and the server would indipendently request IP's
[13:05] <morsnowski> the switch is a layer 2 devices that works on MAC
[13:06] <Eagleman7> yes you are right, but i the problem is that i dont want to buy an extra piece of hardware
[13:06] <Eagleman7> would be the simplest solution but i want it to get it to work with VLAN's
[13:07] <morsnowski> i have no openwrt device here so i'm limited in what i can advise but like said i doubt that you'll be able to convince it to put the wan interface onto an internal vlan
[13:07] <morsnowski> but while we talk i do have some old router and maybe able to iron openwrt onto it  :)
[13:08]  * morsnowski starts looking for routers
[13:08] <Eagleman7> I would really appreciate it if you could help me
[13:08] <Eagleman7> I've been trying to get it to work for hours
[13:08] <morsnowski> i'd love to because that's an interesting question
[13:08] <Eagleman7> Another guy told me the same in the openwrt channel
[13:09] <Eagleman7> Still no results :(
[13:09] <morsnowski> so the openwrt guys told you that this isn't going to work ?
[13:10] <Eagleman7> no
[13:10] <Eagleman7> he told me it was possible
[13:10] <Eagleman7> he didnt told me how to do it
[13:10] <Eagleman7> well he tried but it didnt worked
[13:10] <morsnowski> ok if I find an old router that can be upgraded I'll look at it
[13:11] <eph3meral> ok any other thoughts on how to check what's going wrong with this wireless driver?
[13:11] <eph3meral> it's so weird
[13:11] <eph3meral> when I uninstall the STA driver, I actually get back some wireless related stuff in my network task-tray-icon
[13:11] <morsnowski> eph3meral, did you try to mess with the encryption protocols of the network ?
[13:12] <eph3meral> when I INstall the STA driver, all the wireless anything and everything, any mention of wireless anything, is now gone from the network menu
[13:12] <eph3meral> morsnowski, er, no not yet, like I said, this was working a few hours ago on 11.10
[13:12] <eph3meral> no change in encryption protocols
[13:12] <eph3meral> I'll keep that in the back of my head as a last resort, but it's pretty low on the list IMO
[13:13] <eph3meral> at this moment, I don't think encryption protocols on the router has anything to do with anything
[13:13] <eph3meral> i don't even get a list of wireless networks
[13:13] <morsnowski> no but maybe the abilities of your driver are not compatible with those of your router
[13:13] <morsnowski> well a few minutes ago you said you did
[13:14] <eph3meral> morsnowski, yeah that was the b43 driver
[13:14] <eph3meral> which appears to sort of work
[13:18] <_raven> jrib su - -c skype [user] asks for a password but it does not do anything then
[13:23] <nokia_xxxxsss> need channel for mobile services on freenode server?
[13:23] <nokia_xxxxsss> anybody help me
[13:23] <reisio> nokia_xxxxsss: mobile services?
[13:23] <nokia_xxxxsss> yes
[13:24] <reisio> like what?
[13:24] <nokia_xxxxsss> i have problem with nokia phone
[13:24] <reisio> oh
[13:24] <reisio> which one?
[13:24] <reisio> nokia_xxxxsss: which phone?
[13:24] <nokia_xxxxsss> nokia x2-00
[13:25] <reisio> what a terrible model name :p
[13:25] <nokia_xxxxsss> do you know channel for mobile support
[13:25] <nokia_xxxxsss> ?
[13:26] <reisio> that phone has "Nokia OS"
[13:26] <reisio> which I'm going to go ahead and assume is incredibly unpopular, and closed source
[13:27] <reisio> not good ways to get a freenode channel
[13:27] <reisio> nokia_xxxxsss: you should probably call nokia support
[13:28] <nokia_xxxxsss> OK
[13:28] <Eagleman7> morsnowski on the bottem is an example
[13:28] <Eagleman7> http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/networking/network.interfaces
[13:30] <nardev> is there anyone who can tell me how to change "document author" that i create?
[13:30] <nardev> i started samba somehow and now what ever i do, create new file, commit something on github, it says that i did it as "[Samba guest account]" who can i change that?
[13:31] <reisio> nardev: maybe change the uid for the mount
[13:32] <nardev> reisio, hmm, who does those two things connect?
[13:33] <nardev> reisio, if i "touch somefile" than "somefile" as Owner in "file properties" have "nardev - Samba guest account"
[13:33] <reisio> nardev: a file that's in a samba share, or not?
[13:33] <nardev> reisio, where ever i create file under this user
[13:34] <reisio> nardev: in ~/ ?
[13:34] <nardev> has same Qwner
[13:34] <nardev> yes
[13:35] <reisio> and you're sure you're not logged in as a Guest or something like that?
[13:35] <nardev> well, i'm, since this username that i use is "older" than samba nstallation
[13:35] <reisio> eh?
[13:36] <reisio> read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=827310&page=2#post11188296 maybe
[13:36] <nardev> this "Samba guest account" started appearing since i was trying to share some folders with other windows clients in sam e network
[13:36] <nardev> reisio,  this "Samba guest account" started appearing since i was trying to share some folders with other windows clients in sam e network
[13:36] <eph3meral> and happily ever after
[13:36] <eph3meral> wireless finally works
[13:36] <eph3meral> and I'm not sure why :/
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> !yay
[13:39] <reisio> nardev: think you already said that
[13:39] <reisio> eph3meral: I took my foot off your tubes
[13:39] <nardev> reisio, in case you missed it :(
[13:42] <ZoBiVan> Hi
[13:43] <reisio> ZoBiVan: hi
[13:43] <LujsCyfer> salve
[13:43] <Erealz> is there a ubuntu secuirty channel?
[13:44] <ZoBiVan> I search someone to have some informations about ubuntu server.
[13:45] <Eagleman7> morsnowski You still have the option to test it on my device
[13:46] <reisio> Erealz: nope
[13:46] <reisio> Erealz: there's #ubuntu-hardened, I guess
[13:47] <morsnowski> Eagleman7, I'm not going to connect to your router, i just don't like the thought of it
[13:47] <morsnowski> but thanks for the trust
[13:47] <Eagleman7> And what about a RDP Connection to my pc so i can see what you'r doing on my router?
[13:49] <induz> My 4Gb Sandisk SD card used to get recgnised but now I dont get it on Places???? its not getting mounnted...
[13:49] <induz> how can I mount 4GB SD Sandisk card
[13:50] <morsnowski> Eagleman7, no I'm not going to connect to your systems. I'm sorry but that is no option.
[13:50] <Eagleman7> Ok, thanks for helping anyway
[13:50] <morsnowski> Like said sorry I couldn't help you better
[13:51] <Eagleman7> I think i have to physically connect it then
[13:51] <Eagleman7> and buy another switch
[13:51] <Eagleman7> since all ports on the router are in use
[13:52] <induz> how can I mount $GB Sandisk SD card, its not getting recognized
[13:52] <induz> 4GB
[13:52] <morsnowski> the ports your router provides are most likely all behind the routing part of the router, you are trying to get in front of that part
[13:54] <kodomo> hi folks - anybody else running ubuntu with an alternate window manager (non-gnome, non-kde, non-lxde)? I've just installed ubuntu 12.04 and am shocked to see that even more tools and applications are either missing or not interoperable anymore - maybe someone knows some workarounds...? (specifically: gnome-power-manager seems no longer available as separate daemon, and trayer doesn't display a lot of applet icons anymore?)
[13:55] <reisio> kodomo: GNOME things usually require GNOME deps, has ever been thus
[13:56] <kodomo> reisio: the first may be - the latter definitely not
[13:56] <eph3meral> what are the rules on installing to /opt
[13:56] <Eagleman7> morsnowski i was able to get a WAN address from the router using a virtual adapter
[13:56] <reisio> kodomo: k, what's the latter, again?
[13:56] <kodomo> I've used gnome tools in hardy - no problem
[13:56] <Eagleman7> I used this guide: http://www.flexjunk.com/2010/01/06/utilizing-att-u-verse-static-ips-with-openwrt/
[13:56] <nardev> reisio, "grep -r" gave some clues how to find it, thnx anyway
[13:56] <eph3meral> I am considering a better mount point than just /media/MyFiles for this partition
[13:57] <reisio> kodomo: what's the problem?
[13:57] <induz> how to  mount 4GB sandisk sd card ???
[13:57] <eph3meral> i have seen things in /opt from time to time
[13:57] <reisio> induz: plug it in?
[13:57] <induz> its not getting recognized
[13:57] <eph3meral> is it ever officially sanctioned that packages or daemons might place something in /opt?
[13:57] <reisio> nardev: how to find what?
[13:57] <kodomo> before, most things were modular - so you had a free (mostly independent) choice of X, WM, and tools/applets, as long as you installed required libraries
[13:57] <induz> reisio, after plugging it, nothing happens
[13:57] <eph3meral> or is /opt always supposed to be for the user? ala /usr/local for example?
[13:57] <kodomo> reisio: basically, I'm a xmonad user
[13:57] <reisio> eph3meral: /opt is for random proprietary binary nonsense, typically
[13:57] <nardev> where "Samba guest account" appears which means, i was able to realize why it appears
[13:58] <nardev> reisio,  where "Samba guest account" appears which means, i was able to realize why it appears
[13:58] <reisio> http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy.html#opt
[13:58] <eph3meral> like is it a safe place to mount my own personal files partition and be able to reliably know that it won't get cluttered up by other apps/programs/systems/daemons/demons/dragons/vampires etc
[13:58] <reisio> nardev: oh right
[13:58] <reisio> nardev: gj
[13:58] <kodomo> and I used to have trayer running in the corner, along with some applets (e.g., nm-applet, bluetooth-applet,...) and some daemons in the background (e.g., gnome-power-manager)
[13:58] <eph3meral> i mean, /media/MyFiles isn't too horrible to type, but as often as I end up typing it, /opt would be a lot easier
[13:58] <kodomo> reisio: seems no longer possible...
[13:58] <reisio> eph3meral: use a unique dir inside /mnt/ for long term mounts
[13:58] <reisio> eph3meral: uhhhh, that's just silly
[13:59] <reisio> besides /mnt is easier to type than /opt
[13:59] <reisio> but if you want you can use a symlink or alias to make your life "easier"
[13:59] <alankila> eph3meral: I always use /data for my external data partitions, or just mount it as /home and leave it at that
[13:59] <eph3meral> actually i disagree because m and n use the same finger. opt is three diff fingers :P
[13:59] <balossu> bo
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> eph3meral: just use TAB to autocomplete, easier
[14:00] <eph3meral> alankila, yeah my only problem with mounting it as /home is that config files always seem to change between distros
[14:00] <eph3meral> ActionParsnip, I do already
[14:00] <eph3meral> mostly I use CTRL-r actually
[14:00] <reisio> /data? :p
[14:00] <eph3meral> but still, it's minor, but true, i would for my own personal ocd reasons like to use /opt for this personal-files mount
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> eph3meral: so just start your mount points with a different letter and it's easy ;)
[14:00] <alankila> eph3meral: yes, sharing configs between multiple linux distros might not work too well. But why run multiple linux distros.
[14:00] <eph3meral> reisio, yeah I might :)
[14:01] <reisio> /m is easier to type than /o
[14:01] <reisio> and you have to move and use your weakest finger twice for opt
[14:01] <eph3meral> reisio, ahh, yeh i suppose
[14:01] <reisio> pinky, ring, moved/pinky, pointer
[14:01] <induz> its not mounting
[14:01] <eph3meral> alankila, nah, it's about when i have to upgrade, part of the point of having /home on a separate partition is that you don't have to loose your files or worry as much about backup
[14:01] <reisio> vs pinky, pointer, pointer, pointer
[14:02] <eph3meral> alankila, but I always end up finding my configs to be really wonky after I wipe the root drive and reinstall, but keep the same /home partition
[14:02] <eph3meral> upgrade problems on ubuntu!? no! :P
[14:02] <morsnowski> ifconfig
[14:02] <reisio> if you worry when you upgrade, you should find another distro
[14:02] <morsnowski> hmm
[14:02] <reisio> it should be worry free
[14:02] <uskerine> hi, i am running the live ubuntu distribution, how could I change xsession so i run mwm/lesstif
[14:02] <uskerine> ?
[14:02] <induz> i connected sd card to ubuntu but nothing happens
[14:02] <alankila> eph3meral: well, it isn't too much trouble to just remove all the dot files, although you have to be careful to not actually execute rm -rf ..
[14:02] <eph3meral> reisio, right, so I don't bother with a separate home drive, and I keep a plain files partition, I consider /home to be more of a /user_settings folder
[14:03] <eph3meral> alankila, er... wtf?
[14:03] <eph3meral> remove dot files? lol, what are you smoking :P
[14:03] <eph3meral> oh, wait, you mean hidden files
[14:03] <eph3meral> i thought you mean ./ and ../
[14:03] <alankila> eph3meral: well you said they get wonky between upgrades, so I suggest removing them, that way wonkiness is gone
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> I just clean install each new release, fewer issues
[14:03] <reisio> eph3meral: not sure what that has to do with what we were just discussing, but ok :p
[14:03] <induz> it has some pics on it, how to get them back??
[14:03] <eph3meral> well, I was discussing mount points
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> induz: does it show up in:  sudo fdisk -l
[14:04] <eph3meral> safe canonical ones, are there any or should I just make up my own
[14:04] <uskerine> or how can i enable user login in ubuntu live cd?
[14:04] <reisio> uskerine: ?
[14:05] <reisio> uskerine: hi
[14:05] <induz> ActionParsnip, no
[14:05] <uskerine> reisio, i would like to use mwm (lesstif) instead of the standard wm, where should I change xsession to allow that, or at least, how can i enable login to select session?
[14:06] <induz> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1055977/
[14:07] <reisio> uskerine: is it just a wm?
[14:07] <induz> sd card was working fine on win7 but I removed it suddenly...now no sd card is getting regonised
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> induz: does the system ahve a make and model?
[14:08] <uskerine> yes it is just a wm
[14:08] <reisio> induz: what does sudo blkid show?
[14:08] <uskerine> so i would like to change the standard session to FVWM, or OpenBox, or MWM (this being my specific case)
[14:09] <reisio> uskerine: just on their own, or Unity with mwm?
[14:09] <induz> ActionParsnip, its 4 Gb sandisk SD card...dell dimension e310 is syetm
[14:09] <uskerine> on their own
[14:09] <uskerine> no unity
[14:09] <induz> reisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1055977/
[14:10] <uskerine> (I can hardly think how weird would be motif window manager with unity) :)
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> induz: can you give a pastebin of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; lsusb
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> induz: is the sd card part of the system?
[14:12] <opalepatrick> faffing around trying to get error logging for lamp install. Any pointers/sources to set for dev server?
[14:12] <opalepatrick> sorry my dev desktop not server
[14:13] <battlehands> how do I dock my terminal?
[14:13] <induz> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1055991/
[14:14] <induz> ActionParsnip, card is not part of the system. Its from a camera. It was working fine...I replced the sd card but that also not getting recognized
[14:14] <opalepatrick> Apologies, it was there all the time... Dunce#
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> induz: but is the reader part of the system or is it a usb device
[14:17] <vanderj> I tried to upgrade from ubuntu 11.10 to ubuntu 12.04, but when I download all upgrades and re-start the pc it still using 11.10... Why?
[14:17] <induz> ActionParsnip, its a USB device...but when i insert the card direct to the  Dell comp, nothing happens
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> induz: have you tried a precise liveCD to see if it works there?
[14:18] <bjrohan> Does anyone have experience with an older laptop and ATI Radeon X1400/drivers? I used to be able to get Unity 3D working, after 12.04 upgrade, it no longer does.
[14:18] <vanderj> No
[14:19] <reisio> bjrohan: check dem ati drivers
[14:19] <induz> ActionParsnip, i tried these card on win7 system and ubuntu system, not getting recognosed...maybe a program have formatted them differently...now i want to get back my pics first
[14:19] <induz> ActionParsnip, precide Live CD??
[14:20] <vanderj> I don't  want to use it.
[14:20] <vanderj> I only want to upgrade
[14:21] <bjrohan> reisio, how do I do that, I have seen many items all of the internet, not sure what to do (I am a noob at Linux). Would you be willing to help me, and get me in the right direction?
[14:22] <reisio> bjrohan: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> induz: precise, Ubuntu 12.04
[14:24] <vanderj> I was trying to upgrade using the the system update..
[14:24] <bjrohan> reisio thank you, I will have a go
[14:24] <vanderj> I do not like the CD it is an old tech
[14:25] <induz> ActionParsnip, these card used to get recognised on Ubuntu10.04[the current system]...i dont have a cd to run 12.04 live...is there any s/w i can get my pics from these sd cards??
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> induz: it'll need to be seen by the OS first, you may need to make a udev rule. I suggest you check the latest release to see if the newer kernel makes it work ok
[14:26] <cry1988> more
[14:26] <Sino> kalh synexeia :-)
[14:27] <Bunkas> hello
[14:27] <Bunkas> tudnátok segíteni?
[14:27] <vanderj> I have linux mint 12 dvd, but I want to use ubuntu. because I can use soft RAID and mint do not support it.
[14:27] <bjrohan> reisio: I don't see my card listed, I have a dell inspiron 6400 with AMD ATI Radeon x1400, AMD/ATI site lists Radeon HD or a x1200 series, any thoughts?
[14:28] <bjrohan> reisio: unless I go with a desktop, then it shows me a Radeon x1xxx series although I have a laptop
[14:29] <battlehands> how do I create a directory and a folder in unbuntu terminal?
[14:30] <induz> ActionParsnip, its not getting by OSs-win 7 and ubuntu
[14:30] <reisio> bjrohan: listed w here?
[14:30] <reisio> battlehands: mkdir directory
[14:30] <vanderj> mkdir /home/foldername
[14:31] <reisio> probably won't work
[14:31] <reisio> but mkdir foo in ~/ probably will
[14:31] <vanderj> why not?
[14:31] <kodomo> reisio: Do you know what happened to the gnome-power-manager daemon? Is there a replacement? I can't figure that power management now only works when a user is actively logged into a gnome X session, does it?)
[14:31] <reisio> because /home/ isn't usually owned by non-root
[14:31] <reisio> kodomo: there are a number of power management packages, they do tend to be related to desktop environments, though
[14:31] <bjrohan> on the ati/amd site listed on the link you sent me earlier. When I entered Desktop, then radeon, then x1xxx series (I have Radeon X1400) it shows a list of products that do not include x1400 (like x1050, x1200), and says it is a legacy driver, and to use Catalyst 9.3 from 2009
[14:31] <reisio> (not just GNOME, however)
[14:32] <bjrohan> reisio: How do I tell what driver I am currently running
[14:32] <reisio> bjrohan: so check the 9.3 list
[14:32] <reisio> bjrohan: lspci -k | less
[14:32] <vanderj> it always works
[14:33] <lea102> hello guys
[14:33] <reisio> hi
[14:33] <vanderj> hi
[14:33] <lea102> how are you?
[14:33] <reisio> vanderj: I doubt that works
[14:33] <induz> is there any s/w to get back pics from a sd card??
[14:33] <vanderj> ok
[14:34] <lea102> I got one problem that really annoys me on unity.  Is there any way to stop a window's title bar merging with the panel when maximised?
[14:34] <kodomo> reisio: that's what I feared... There seems to be a new philosophy that everything should be centered around a user X session... tough luck if one wants to use the terminal or keep Wifi connectivity for SSH access when logged out of a laptop :P
[14:34] <reisio> induz: what filesystem was on it?
[14:34] <reisio> kodomo: not really...
[14:34] <reisio> people who don't want to use a DE do things manually
[14:34] <bjrohan> reisio: so this would be what I am have installed, the radeon kernel module?
[14:34] <bjrohan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1056025/
[14:34] <induz> reisio, FAT but I guess now it is just WFD
[14:35] <reisio> bjrohan: that is at the very least what you are _using_
[14:35] <induz> WPD
[14:36] <reisio> induz: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/how-to-recover-deleted-files-from-a-fat32-volume-in-linux-739511/ for example
[14:36] <bjrohan> what else may I be using? I don't recall installin Catalyst at all, however I have been battling this problem for months on my own with no resolution. Basically, no 3D acceleration for all the cool things
[14:36] <lea102> if someone don't have answer to my question at least tell me that I am not the only one that unity annoys me with that global menu
[14:36] <reisio> bjrohan: may have swapped during your upgrade, I couldn't speak to that
[14:36] <reisio> bjrohan: find out what you _should be using_, and then make sure you -are using it-
[14:36] <induz> reisio, let me read and try that site
[14:36] <reisio> bjrohan: I'm guessing fglrx
[14:36] <kodomo> reisio: it's not about doing things manually that I complain... having a system bus, management daemons and controlling applets is one thing... but integrating daemons and applets into a monolithic WM is another (I don't grasp the advantage of the latter but see the crippling effect in flexibility and exchangeability of components...
[14:36] <kodomo> )
[14:37] <reisio> kodomo: what is it you want to have happen?
[14:37] <bjrohan> how would I find out what more I am using, such as catalyst or fglrx? Here is the site for the x1400 specs
[14:37] <bjrohan> http://www.amd.com/us/products/notebook/graphics/ati-mobility-hd-x1000/x1400/Pages/x1400.aspx
[14:37] <kodomo> reisio: is this a serious question?
[14:37] <bjrohan> leading me to believe I should have 3D rendering
[14:38] <reisio> you're using radeon, as previously determined
[14:38] <reisio> kodomo: nice talking with you
[14:38] <alankila> I personally support monolithic integration. It's much simpler, from the total system point of view, than allowing alternate implementations.
[14:38] <bjrohan> reisio: OK, you had just said at the very least, I thought that perhaps I may have something else overtop of that in use
[14:39] <dazappa> hi I'm having some problems with HDMI audio. I installed nvidia prop drivers and can see an HDMI audio device in the settings, but I cannot select it to be the device to play audio, and testing audio from the CP after selecting plays from laptop speakers. I found my HDMI device using aplay -D hw:1,9 testsound.wav where, 1,9 is the device that plays over HDMI successfully. How can I set the audio settings to use this? 12.04
[14:39] <reisio> bjrohan: so follow the instructions I gave you earlier, but download the 9.3 version instead of the 12 version
[14:40] <reisio> dazappa: still using pulseaudio as far as you know?
[14:40] <bjrohan> reisio: Gotcha, is fglrx catalyst?
[14:40] <vanderj> this mean that ubuntu 12 is not ready to use yet
[14:40] <dazappa> reisio: I have not poked around the internals after doing a fresh install, so yes I think it's still using pulse
[14:41] <L3top> dazappa: do you have an /etc/asound.conf file?
[14:41] <whoami> hey guys What are you use Ubuntu.
[14:41] <L3top> dazappa: if so please pastebin it
[14:42] <reisio> whoami: what are?
[14:42] <reisio> bjrohan: yes
[14:42] <dazappa> L3top: no, VI returns new file and checking in the file manager I don't see it either
[14:42] <L3top> one second...
[14:42] <reisio> 'vi'
[14:44] <whoami> The amount of Well
[14:45] <reisio> whoami: maybe you should talk to #ubuntu-cn
[14:46] <danawar2> Hey i am trying to mount a filesystem.squashfs but once i have it mounted i cant copy stuff of it, it say permission denied how do i solve this?
[14:46] <L3top> dazappa: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1668737.html   that should probably still be relevant
[14:46] <bjrohan> reisio: In the instructions you sent it says to uninstall the fglrx  drivers. I do not have those installed correct, so I just install the driver necessary?
[14:46] <reisio> bjrohan: sounds right
[14:47] <L3top> bjrohan: you will want to purge fglrx if you intend not to use it. It causes multiple conflicts
[14:47] <kodomo> reisio: if it was an actual question: I'd like a WM-independent configuration interface for non-WM-relating aspects (e.g., connectivity, power management), and I'd like system daemons to run independent of X sessions if they are not relating to X .
[14:47] <reisio> L3top: he intends to use it
[14:47] <dazappa> L3top: thanks I'll look into that
[14:47] <reisio> L3top: the guide says to uninstall older versions before attempting to install a new version
[14:47] <amagee> hey i'm trying to install the ATI proprietary driver via ubuntu's utility for that, and I get an error:  "Sorry, installation of this driver failed. Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log".  where should I report this?
[14:47] <SkippersBoss> danawar2:  what was the full mount command you used
[14:48] <danawar2> just sudo mount filesystem.squashfs /media/testdrive
[14:48] <reisio> kodomo: DE-related power management things _are_ wm-independent
[14:48] <reisio> kodomo: they simply have deps that they have
[14:48] <reisio> kodomo: if you can detail a specific problem, though, maybe we can get somewhere
[14:49] <SkippersBoss> !mount |danawar2
[14:49] <kodomo> reisio: ah - ok... this way: I'd like to run xmonad and be able to suspend my laptop with the suspend-key
[14:49] <munzx> hi ! thanks for ubuntu 12.04 lts , i installed dropbox and it took to much time so i canceled the operation but the cancellation took more than 3 hours and still even though i restarted my laptop several times!!! btw , i had ubuntu reinstalled and before that dropbox was warking fine
[14:49] <SkippersBoss> u need to tell mount that ur regular user can write as well
[14:50]  * L3top wants to see lspci -nn | grep 'VGA'   output for both ATI questions amagee and bjrohan
[14:50] <kodomo> reisio: I don't want to spare display surface for a broad taskbar I don't use
[14:50] <bjrohan> reisio: I ran into an error:
[14:50] <bjrohan> Generating package: Ubuntu/precise
[14:50] <bjrohan> Error: Distro Version entered incorrectly or not supported, use --listpkg to identify valid distro versions
[14:50] <amagee> L3top: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Juniper [Radeon HD 5700 Series] [1002:68b8]
[14:50] <bjrohan> L3top: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Radeon Mobility X1400 [1002:7145]
[14:50] <bjrohan> wow
[14:50] <kodomo> reisio: likewise, I'd like to run a trayer and applets to configure wifi/bluetooth/... in xmonad
[14:51] <bjrohan> amagee: that was cool
[14:51] <danawar2> SkippersBoss: Sorry that is not very helpful for me
[14:51] <SkippersBoss> danawar2,  adding -o rw should do the trick. please read    'man mount' for complete option
[14:51] <L3top> that should be no problem amagee. Can you pastebin the entire session and the jockey.log?
[14:51] <munzx> hi ! thanks for ubuntu 12.04 lts , i installed dropbox and it took to much time so i canceled the operation but the cancellation took more than 3 hours and still even though i restarted my laptop several times!!! btw , i had ubuntu reinstalled and before that dropbox was warking fine
[14:51] <L3top> bjrohan: I do not believe you will be able to use the fglrx driver
[14:51] <amagee> L3top: what do you mean "the entire session"?
[14:51] <SkippersBoss> all mounts are mounted read only
[14:51] <SkippersBoss> to other users then sudo
[14:52] <danawar2> SkippersBoss: I am not trying to write to it
[14:52] <bjrohan> L3top: Any suggestions? Unity 3D was woking fine when I had 11.10 installed, upgraded to 12.04 and then no systray, no 3D rendering :-(
[14:52] <L3top> I am sorry amagee, I install everything through terminal. What happens if you type sudo apt-get install fglrx
[14:52] <danawar2> SkippersBoss: Im trying to copy the contents to a folder
[14:52] <L3top> They broke support ATI side bjrohan. One moment.
[14:52] <kodomo> reisio: these are my current problems - the wifi-without-X-issue was something that annoyed me when I installed hardy many years ago ;)
[14:52] <SkippersBoss> thats me out then
[14:52] <amagee> L3top: is that equivalent to what the "Additional Drivers" app does?
[14:52] <SkippersBoss> sorry
[14:52] <munzx> can any one help me plz
[14:53] <munzx> hi ! thanks for ubuntu 12.04 lts , i installed dropbox and it took to much time so i canceled the operation but the cancellation took more than 3 hours and still even though i restarted my laptop several times!!! btw , i had ubuntu reinstalled and before that dropbox was warking fine
[14:53] <smithzv> Hello, my HUD on my fresh 12.04 install isn't showing interesting options, like menu items (copy, paste, save, etc.)  Is there anything I need to do to populate the HUD?
[14:53] <L3top> Should be amagee.
[14:53] <sacarlson> !mksquashfs | danawar2:
[14:53] <smithzv> it seems to be showing global stuff like indicator options and printer setup
[14:54] <sacarlson> danawar2: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/SquashFS-HOWTO/mksqoverview.html
[14:54] <kodomo> reisio: the suspend-to-ram functionality used to work (along with volume control hard keys when the gnome-power-manager daemon was started... but that one seems to have been eliminated in precise(?)
[14:54] <bjrohan> L3top: when I ask for packages I do get:
[14:54] <bjrohan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1056054/
[14:55] <mi3> Hi, the minimize, maximize, close buttons as well as the Title is missing from firefox , and suggestions ? http://imagebin.org/217571
[14:55] <sacarlson> danawar2: or better maybe with mount /some/file.sqfs /mnt -o loop  http://archive.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=2&c=16&t=4569
[14:55] <munzx> hi ! thanks for ubuntu 12.04 lts , i installed dropbox and it took to much time so i canceled the operation but the cancellation took more than 3 hours and still even though i restarted my laptop several times!!! btw , i had ubuntu reinstalled and before that dropbox was warking fine
[14:55] <L3top> bjrohan: yes... that is no longer supported. That looks like you have a PPA you are trying to get it from. Newer drivers will not work.
[14:55] <amagee> L3top: apt-get install fglrx seemed to actually work.. it's asking for a restart so i will try that, brb
[14:55] <danawar2> sacralson: tryed that : /
[14:56] <munzx> i installed dropbox and it took to much time so i canceled the operation but the cancellation took more than 3 hours and still even though i restarted my laptop several times!!! btw , i had ubuntu reinstalled and before that dropbox was warking fine
[14:56] <mi3> I am not using unity, I am using cairo-dock session.
[14:56] <mi3> Hi, the minimize, maximize, close buttons as well as the Title is missing from firefox , and suggestions ? http://imagebin.org/217571 . I am not using unity, I am using cairo-dock session.
[14:56] <sacarlson> danawar2: tried mount with loop?
[14:56] <danawar2> yes
[14:57] <bjrohan> L3top: what do you mean a ppa trying to get it from? the drivers? I downloaded the file from the ATI/AMD site
[14:57] <danawar2> trying with -t now
[14:57] <bjrohan> L3top: What do you recommend I try to do?
[14:58] <sacarlson> danawar2: maybe you didn't look at the link?
[14:58] <Mandalord> mi3: right click on the extreme top, and select undecorate
[14:58] <L3top> I recommend you use the correct driver... and purge all pieces of the prorpietary one which will not work on your HW bjrohan. One moment.
[14:58] <bjrohan> L3top: thank you for helping me, this has been plaquing me for months
[14:58] <mi3> Mandalord: it worked, thanks !
[14:59] <sacarlson> danawar2: mount /some/file.sqfs /mnt -o loop  ;rsync -aP /mnt/ /somewhere/big  ;umount /mnt  ;(do edits to /somewhere/big)  ;mksquashfs /somewhere/big /some/new-file.sqfs
[14:59] <kwtm> Hi. Where on a Kubuntu system are the system sound files?  WOuld like to use some for notification sounds on a different computer.
[15:00] <reisio> kodomo: you can manage all of those with simple commands that don't require GNOME if you want
[15:00] <locodir-user> js wondering if someone can help me with ubuntu isnatallation
[15:01] <amagee> L3top: hmm, that seemed to work
[15:01] <amagee> now when I open "Additional Drivers" it has a green light on "ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver" but not the one that says "(post-release updates)"
[15:01] <L3top> Certainly should have amagee :)
[15:01] <xxiao> i got used to aptitude until 12.04, wherer aptitude is no longer the recommended method
[15:01] <amagee> is there an analogous command to install that via command line?
[15:01] <sacarlson> danawar2: as mount requires sudo in some cases maybe chroot if you don't have sudo access?
[15:02] <kodomo> reisio: are you talking about throwing away all configuration applets and going back to editing wpa_supplicant config files? ;)
[15:02] <xxiao> to do 'aptitude search pkg', what should i use now?
[15:02] <xxiao> apt-cache search pkg gives too much info
[15:02] <L3top> bjrohan: http://pastebin.com/aC95khK6          you can just dump all that into a terminal and it will do everything you need. Then reboot
[15:02] <reisio> kodomo: no, in the case of wireless you could use, for example, wicd's ncurses frontend
[15:03] <Mandalord> apt-cache search <package> | grep <some word to be matched up>
[15:03] <danawar2> sudo mount filesystem.squashfs /media/testdrive -o loop
[15:03] <danawar2> mount: warning: /media/testdrive seems to be mounted read-only.
[15:03] <danawar2> That is fine by me but if i try to do any thing with the mounted
[15:03] <xxiao> Mandalord: sigh, why do they ditch aptitude, seems very user fridenly to me
[15:03] <bjrohan> L3top: Line by line correct, not all at once
[15:03] <xxiao> friendly
[15:03] <L3top> amagee: post release updates in your case will do nothing for you I do not believe. Keep in mind also that the 12-5 version removed support for all of the HD 2xxx-4xxx cards. Yours is a 5xxx so you wont have an issue with that, but I expect your chipset is next to be dropped... so... latest is not often best with ATI
[15:03] <danawar2> I get access denied, as far as i remember if somthing is read only you can still copy it and read it
[15:04] <sacarlson> danawar2: as noted in the link you copy the read only files system to a place that you CAN edit change it then squash it
[15:04] <amagee> ok
[15:04] <amagee> well the drivers i'm using atm seem to be broken, which is why i want to upgrade
[15:04] <danawar2> sacarlson: but i cant copy it that is the problem even as root
[15:04] <L3top> bjrohan: if you sudo something and enter your password, you can just drop the whole thing in at once. Otherwise go line by line. Taking weird commands from a stranger in IRC would make me want to do it line by line... but it is all good.
[15:04] <amagee> some webpages behave very oddly in ways that are clearly not problems with the webpage or the browser
[15:04] <sacarlson> danawar2: oh I missed that part so maybe the squash is corrupted?
[15:05] <sacarlson> danawar2: or you don't have priv?
[15:05] <bjrohan> Why is my laptop smoking?
[15:05] <bjrohan> j/k
[15:05] <escott> danawar2, what are the permissions on the mountpoint and files
[15:05] <danawar2> sacarlson: I have no idea :/ i dont think it is corrupt
[15:05] <sacarlson> danawar2: at the point you try to copy it TOO
[15:05] <soft_> hi people
[15:05] <soft_> i have an hp
[15:05] <soft_> laptop
[15:05] <L3top> amagee: this is still the case with the fglrx driver installed?
[15:05] <L3top> amagee: if so, it is probably flash related
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> soft_: ease up on the enter key dude
[15:05] <amagee> L3top: yes, it's exactly the same
[15:05] <soft_> when i change brightness
[15:05] <danawar2> escott: that doesnt matter because im root so i should have ownership over all correct?
[15:05] <soft_> and reboot pc
[15:06] <amagee> L3top: i thought that, but it happens also on websites that don't have flash
[15:06] <soft_> i get back the old brightness set
[15:06] <L3top> amagee: can you take a screenshot please?
[15:06] <amagee> will try
[15:06] <escott> danawar2, correct
[15:06] <sacarlson> danawar2: no some DESTINATION directories may also be uwritable to root
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> soft_: again, ease up on the enter key, you can type very long lines, it doesn't cost any more and breaks up your question less, making it actually readable
[15:06] <L3top> !pastebin | amagee there is a link in here to place screenshots.
[15:07] <Mandalord> xxiao: if you want something friendly, i suggest to use Synaptic
[15:07] <soft_> #l3top please help
[15:07] <sacarlson> danawar2: can you cd into the loop mounted disk and view files in it?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> soft_: if you reboot and run:  echo 5 | sudo tee sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness      is it ok?
[15:07] <danawar2> yes
[15:07] <danawar2> sacarlson: yse
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> oops
[15:08] <smithzv> Nevermind, sloppy focus => no global menus => no (working) HUD... :(
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> soft_: if you reboot and run:  echo 5 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness      is it ok?
[15:08] <sacarlson> danawar2: then maybe the problem is on the DESTINANTION directory,  can you touch a file in the directory you plan to copy it too?
[15:08] <L3top> soft_: I do not remember how to fix that... It may be an acpi=off addition to kernel load... I will have to check.
[15:08] <L3top> soft_: follow ActionParsnips instructions
[15:09] <danawar2> danawar@danawar-desktop:/media/testdrive/var/www$ sudo mv zap-wave /home/danawar/Desktop/
[15:09] <danawar2> mv: cannot remove `zap-wave/index.php': Read-only file system
[15:09] <danawar2> mv: cannot remove `zap-wave/zap-wave.readme.txt': Read-only file system
[15:09] <danawar2> danawar@danawar-desktop:/media/testdrive/var/www$
[15:09] <kodomo> reisio: *sigh* ok - I guess I have to really go back to curses- and cli- interfaces... I was hoping the gnome-tools that worked in hardy could be convinced to work in precise (or just had been renamed)
[15:09] <soft_> what is  follow ActionParsnips instructions
[15:09] <sacarlson> danawar2:   touch /your/planed/path/to/test.txt
[15:09] <kodomo> frustrating - but thx nonetheless :)
 soft_: if you reboot and run:  echo 5 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness      is it ok?
[15:09] <escott> danawar2, use cp not mv
[15:09] <danawar2> sacarlson: ofc i can access my home drive if i am root :)
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> soft_: if you run it, does the brightness change?
[15:10] <amagee> L3top: here's an example http://imagebin.org/217577
[15:10] <sacarlson> danawar2: not if it's encrypted
[15:10] <amagee> L3top: i should probably point out that i'm using xubuntu
[15:10] <amagee> i haven't tried gnome lately
[15:10] <L3top> np
[15:10] <danawar2> escott: cp: omitting directory `zap-wave/
[15:10] <soft_> i don't think
[15:10] <soft_> where i must write this code
[15:10] <danawar2> sacarlson: fair point but its not encrypted :)
[15:11] <soft_> L3top:
[15:11] <escott> danawar2, did you cp -r?
[15:11] <L3top> amagee: oh yeah... that's... thats way wrong... do not expect it is flash.
[15:11] <amagee> yeah
[15:11] <danawar2> escott: no ill try that now never used -r
[15:11] <amagee> it's very interesting.. it only happens on webpages, and only on some web pages
[15:11] <amagee> but happens across chrome and firefox
[15:11] <L3top> a terminal soft_.
[15:12] <bjrohan> L3top:  I ran every line in the pastebin, restart now?
[15:12] <L3top> yes bjrohan
[15:12] <sacarlson> danawar2: or as given rsync -aP /mnt/ /somewhere/big
[15:12] <PervertedMonk> hey lads having a problem getting both my usb drives to auto mount (came back from holiday to find a bash:- Permissiong denied error. So here is the paste bin of what I did http://pastebin.com/qKeZ4RCN Please advise
[15:12] <amagee> L3top: also, on some web pages it doesn't even update when i type text in a text box or click a check box
[15:12] <amagee> ie. the text box works, but i can't see anything
[15:13] <danawar2> sudo cp -r testdrive /home/danawar/Desktop/ caused a long pause which is promising :)
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> soft_: does the command change the brightness ok?
[15:13] <danawar2> although it wouldn't work before o.o
[15:13] <escott> danawar2, cp without the -r recursive flag only copies regular files not directories
[15:13] <sacarlson> danawar2: follow ALL the instructions
[15:14] <amagee> oh actually i lie, that issue i just showed you doesn't occur on that page in firefox
[15:14] <danawar2> Ahh ok great i now have it on my desktop :D
[15:14] <escott> PervertedMonk, don't use sudo with udisks
[15:14] <danawar2> ty :) now to change the permissions :D
[15:14] <escott> PervertedMonk, udisks means "user disks" its meant to be run by regular users
[15:14] <PervertedMonk> escott but when I tried it without sudo I got :  /usr/bin/udisks --mount /dev/sdb1Mount failed: Not Authorized
[15:15] <amagee> actually i'm not getting any issues in firefox anymore.. maybe it is somehow flash screwing everything up
[15:15] <PervertedMonk> that's why i tried using sudo after that
[15:15] <escott> PervertedMonk, what is the output of "groups"
[15:15] <PervertedMonk> gmathews adm dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev users lpadmin sambashare admin
[15:16] <soft_> yes it's change
[15:16] <escott> PervertedMonk, so from your current state do "sudo udisks --unmount /dev/sdb1" and verify it is unmounted by running "mount" and checking that sdb1 does not appear. then run udisks --mount /dev/sdb1 and please paste that error
[15:16] <soft_> but
[15:17] <soft_> it will still run until reboot
[15:17] <L3top> amagee: I am tempted to agree with you, though I have not had this experience... something is funky with the driver... can you open catalyst and check the settings there?
[15:17] <sacarlson> danawar2: also don't guess that we know what you typed as command show us all so we have an idea what might have gone wrong in the future
[15:17] <L3top> soft_: you should direct your comments to ActionParsnip.
[15:17] <L3top> ActionParsnip: <soft_> yes it's change
[15:18] <soft_> ActionParsnip: <soft_> yes it's change
[15:18] <PervertedMonk> escott: gmathews@gmathews-ProLiant-MicroServer:/media$ udisks --mount /dev/sdb1
[15:18] <PervertedMonk> Mount failed: Not Authorized
[15:18] <amagee> L3top: how do i open it? if i try to run it from the menu, nothing happens
[15:18] <escott> PervertedMonk, can you run "ps aux | grep udisks" and verify that udisks-daemon is running
[15:19] <danawar2> sacarlson: Its very confusing for me you must understand that O.o i'm still learning
[15:19] <PervertedMonk> root      1489  0.0  0.3  24244  3660 ?        Sl   17:04   0:00 /usr/lib/udisk /udisks-daemon
[15:19] <L3top> hmmm... one sec amagee.
[15:19] <bjrohan> L3top: I am back after completing your pastebin lines and rebooting. Now what
[15:19] <sacarlson> danawar2: we are all learning, no one know it all
[15:19] <PervertedMonk> root      1490  0.0  0.0   6328   732 ?        S    17:04   0:00 udisks-daemon: not polling any device
[15:20] <PervertedMonk> it's running right?
[15:20] <PervertedMonk> dont know what caused this change ;/
[15:20] <L3top> amagee: I would try sudo apt-get install fglrx-amdcccle-updates
[15:20] <escott> PervertedMonk, what version of ubuntu and what desktop environment are you running
[15:20] <L3top> bjrohan: Nothing. Everything should be working as well as it can :)
[15:20] <bjrohan> Hmm
[15:21] <amagee> L3top: all already installed
[15:21] <PervertedMonk> 3.0.0-17-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 8 17:34:21 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[15:21] <PervertedMonk> its xbmc-ubuntu though
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> soft_: then add that in /etc/rc.local   above the exit 0 line...
[15:21] <L3top> amagee: apt-cache policy fglrx-amdcccle | grep -i installed
[15:21] <PervertedMonk> but it;'s basically xbmc eden installed over ubuntu
[15:21] <escott> PervertedMonk, so thats an 11.04 base
[15:22] <mahrain> hi guys, I love the fact that the i855gm graphics chip is properly supported in 12.04 LTS, thanks!
[15:22] <PervertedMonk> escott, yea i think so
[15:22] <escott> PervertedMonk, can you verify that /media is empty by running ls -l /media?
[15:22] <amagee> L3top:   Installed: (none)
[15:22] <PervertedMonk> escott: yes it's empty
[15:23] <escott> PervertedMonk, ok. do you have an entries in fstab referencing sdb1
[15:23] <L3top> amagee: hmmm... I would try installing that. (me wonders how you got the updates without specifying...)
[15:24] <PervertedMonk> escott: just /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda5
[15:24] <PervertedMonk> one is the ext4 partition and the other the swap
[15:25] <PervertedMonk> escott: note that I have never changed antyhing in /etc/fstab
[15:25] <PervertedMonk> escott: and it was working fine for about two months
[15:26] <bjrohan> L3top: How can I tell if 3D on my card is working properly?
[15:26] <bjrohan> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man4/radeon.4.html does show that I should be set right
[15:27] <reisio> bjrohan: glxinfo | grep -i 'direct rendering'
[15:27] <bjrohan> bjrohan@bjrohan-MM061:~$ bjrohan: glxinfo | grep -i 'direct rendering'
[15:27] <bjrohan> bjrohan:: command not found
[15:27] <bjrohan> :-(
[15:28] <escott> PervertedMonk, maybe a polkitd issue. verify polkitd is running with ps aux | grep polkitd. you can also check what actions are allowed with pkaction -v | grep -C 5 udisk
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> soft_: you don't strictly need the sudo in the command as all commands there will run as root
[15:28] <reisio> bjrohan: use apt-file to find the package that provides it
[15:28] <reisio> probably mesa-utils or the like
[15:29] <amagee> ok i installed fglrx-amdcccle and then fglrx-amdcccle-updates
[15:29] <L3top> 3D is not going to work "properly" on your chipset. It will work in a limited capacity... It will work "ok" assuming your settings are correct. You can apt-get install mesa-utils and run glxgears
[15:29] <amagee> system restart required, apparetnly.. brb
[15:29] <L3top> bjrohan: ^
[15:29] <soft_> i've already runned the  gui
[15:30] <bjrohan> I have done a restart amagee :-)
[15:30] <soft_> ??
[15:30] <L3top> sorry bjrohan... the line above... amagee was also restarting
[15:31] <bjrohan> gotcha :-)
[15:31] <lea102> I got one problem that really annoys me on unity.  Is there any way to stop a window's title bar merging with the panel when maximised?
[15:32] <L3top> That's a "feature" lea102... I believe you will want to turn off... sticky edges perhaps... I am not sure to be honest.
[15:32] <PervertedMonk> escott: http://pastebin.com/g1zMWeAm
[15:32] <PervertedMonk>
[15:32] <PervertedMonk>
[15:32] <PervertedMonk>
[15:32] <PervertedMonk>
[15:32] <FloodBot1> PervertedMonk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:32] <reisio> http://lifehacker.com/5887462/how-to-disable-ubuntus-annoying-global-menu-bar
[15:32] <PervertedMonk> escott: http://pastebin.com/g1zMWeAm
[15:32] <lea102> reisio I did that already
[15:32] <PervertedMonk> DOH.
[15:32] <bjrohan> L3top: How do I use the mesa-utils (they are already installed) and run glxgears?
[15:32] <reisio> lea102: done
[15:32] <lea102> reisio: the title bar is still merging with global menu
[15:33] <lea102> resio: although the window menu bar is fine now
[15:33] <pixelated> I have a pentium d<EMAIL_ADDRESS>with 1Gb RAM, and anytime it launches an app, the %wa goes up to 90% and %si hits around 5%, and takes 30-40 seconds for apps to come up. This is a semi-fresh 11.10 install. any ideas on where i should look for probelms?
[15:33] <stdd> hello, i really need some help recovering a lvm partition.. fdisk -l lists the hard drives but says Disk /dev/mapper/<disk> doesn't contain a valid partition table.. can anyone point me to the right direction on what to do next? I'm a little scared to run commands i randomly find on google as I might destroy the harddisk further. Or should I take another direction in rescueing this data?
[15:33] <L3top> bjrohan: type glxgears
[15:33] <bjrohan> I did, it worked
[15:34] <L3top> tadaaaaa
[15:34] <bjrohan> L3top: It showed me gears working, yippee
[15:34] <escott> PervertedMonk, im not sure what is going on here. that looks alright and if polkitd is running, and dbus is running then udisks should be able to connect to it.
[15:34] <bjrohan> L3top: So it is working as best it could then?
[15:34] <reisio> bjrohan: glxinfo | grep -i 'direct rendering'
[15:34] <L3top> Correct bjrohan
[15:35] <bjrohan> reisio:
[15:35] <bjrohan> bjrohan@bjrohan-MM061:~$ glxinfo | grep -i 'direct rendering'
[15:35] <bjrohan> r300: DRM version: 2.12.0, Name: ATI RV515, ID: 0x7145, GB: 1, Z: 1
[15:35] <bjrohan> r300: GART size: 509 MB, VRAM size: 128 MB
[15:35] <bjrohan> r300: AA compression RAM: YES, Z compression RAM: YES, HiZ RAM: YES
[15:35] <bjrohan> direct rendering: Yes
[15:35] <FloodBot1> bjrohan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:35] <bjrohan> reisio: Why did it say it wasn't working a few minutes ago?
[15:35] <reisio> bjrohan: maybe it wasn't working a few minutes ago
[15:35] <PervertedMonk> escott: its worrying. I plug the  HDD in to my  windows machine and it's all good
[15:35] <lea102> reisio: it is really annoying because I could not minimize, maximize without touching the gnome panel
[15:35] <bjrohan> thanks you very much resio & L3top
[15:35] <amagee> hey L3top -- i installed those things and rebooted.. still can't open the catalyst control centre from the menu but "amdcccle" from terminal works
[15:36] <amagee> can't really see anything interesting but i'm gonna head off to bed now
[15:36] <amagee> thanks for your help though!
[15:36] <magicJ> .
[15:36] <bjrohan> reisio: SHould I now be able to log into Unity 3D?
[15:39] <escott> PervertedMonk, you could setup a fstab entry that hardcodes the appropriate owner value. but something is evidently broken in the xbmc session or in polkit. i'm not familiar enough with either to diagnose
[15:39] <stdd> any ideas where to start fixing a broken lvm partition? when I try to mount the lvm directly I get following error: wrong fs type, bad superblock on <partition>.. try dmesg
[15:40] <soft_> ok i'm on thr channel
[15:40] <stdd> dmesg just gives me an i/O error at the end
[15:40] <Mandalord> stdd: try this http://www.tcpdump.com/kb/os/linux/configuring-lvm/intro.html
[15:40] <PervertedMonk> escott: i changed this in /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.udisks.policy -> allow any to yes
[15:40] <PervertedMonk> and it works ;p
[15:40] <reisio> soft_: right hurr
[15:40] <PervertedMonk> dunno if it's the correct way
[15:42] <vmars> oh.what are you talking about
[15:42] <stdd> Mandalord: thanks, running fdisk, then n says default partition number is 3.. should I still use one as described on the website or 3?
[15:45] <VbA> hi anybody can help me
[15:45] <VbA> i got this errors
[15:45] <VbA> Can't locate XML/Simple.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.12.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.12.4 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/p
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> VbA: what causes the errors
[15:45] <VbA> when i running perl script
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> VbA: have you asked in #perl too
[15:46] <VbA> not yet sir
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> VbA: i suggest it, they may have a cheeky fix :)
[15:46] <VbA> i will sir, thanks
[15:47] <pdan> #archlinux
[15:47] <sacarlson> I think you just need to fix a corrupted super block  I'm not sure what disk you have problem but http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/recover-bad-superblock-from-corrupted-partition/
[15:48] <stdd> sacarlson: I tried looking for backup superblocks, tried all of them, but none of them worked. (short-read error)
[15:48] <bjrohan> L3top: and reisio THANK YOU THANK YOU, I can log into Unity 3D and it worked, my Cairo dock also works.!
[15:49] <sacarlson> stdd: well if more than 3 supper blocks fail I guess you broke it?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: thats gotta take some talent
[15:49] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: to break stuff?  I an expert at breaking stuf  me >>talented<<
[15:51] <stdd> sacarlson: how do you mean i broke it? it was an idle-file server i didn't do anything with.. the latest backup is a few days old and i really need the new data i put on there... this morning it was running fine, then suddenly it stopped working :/
[15:51] <stdd> is there any way to recover (maybe just part) of the data?
[15:52] <sacarlson> stdd: full forensic recover is where you do a dd dump of the image on the disk then work on that to recover so you don't break the original
[15:52] <L3top> np bjrohan :) Glad you are working.
[15:52] <sacarlson> stdd: it depends on the value of the stuf on the disk how much effort to put into recovery
[15:53] <stdd> well.. i'd certainly be willing to pay something to the person who helps me recover the data
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: hehe special weapon: dd
[15:56] <stdd> and doing a dd backup would not actually help me recover the data but only ensure i'm not doing any further damage right?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> stdd: if you had a backup you won't have this issue
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> stdd: I'd look into foremost
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> stdd: a cheap USB HDD will save you a LOT of hassle
[15:59] <stdd> it was the one thing i didn't set up a backup for as it was new and then this happened... it taught me (yet another) lesson about backups but that doesn't help me much right now
[16:02] <sacarlson> stdd: I found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DriveImaging
[16:03] <sacarlson> stdd: that gets you to create an image of the bad partition and create a file of it,  but you need the space on a working drive to put it on
[16:05] <Ignit> I have this netbook (MSI GE-620) with a software-based EJECT button. It doesn't work when using Ubuntu. Is there a way to eject my DVDROM when there is no disc inside?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> stdd: foremost can work on the drive as is, but you'll need a big enough partition mounted writable to spit all the data to
[16:06] <The_Other_Guy> Ignit: It doesn't have a button on the outside of the DVD drive?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> Ignit: sudo eject /dev/sr0
[16:06] <Ignit> The_Other_Guy: No, it doesn't, the EJECT key is in the middle of the Keyboard
[16:07] <stdd> sacarlson: i just got a usb drive to put the data onto... i'll now try to follow the steps in the link
[16:07] <sacarlson> stdd: then you need the oposite side to mount and recover the dd image http://rackerhacker.com/2010/12/14/mounting-a-raw-partition-file-made-with-dd-or-dd_rescue-in-linux/
[16:07] <The_Other_Guy> Ignit: Then use the command sudo eject /dev/sr0 in your terminal window.
[16:07] <stdd> sacarlson: ah great, that was the part i didn't understand yet :) i'll give it a shot and report as soon as i have news
[16:07] <sacarlson> stdd: I"ve never done any of this stuff so good luck
[16:07] <bou> working from a windows machine to install ubuntu (and wipe windows off)
[16:08] <Ignit> ActionParsnip: sorry doesn't work without a CD in the drive
[16:08] <bou> what would be the advantages of using a usb drive with ISO image etc. over simply using the windows installer?
[16:08] <escott> The_Other_Guy, Ignit shouldn't need the sudo
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> Ignit: should jack it out regardless
[16:08] <escott> bou, you mean a real install vs wubi?
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> bou: you will need to not use the windows installer if you intend to wipe windows off
[16:09] <The_Other_Guy> Doesn't matter escott.
[16:09] <bou> dunno what is wubi, escott, but it is not live cd or live usb, itis real install
[16:09] <bou> ActionParsnip, it seems windows installer option is far easier, hence my question ...
[16:10] <stdd> sacarlson: thanks for the confidence:) bt as my alternative is to just lose the data it's much better than nothing :)
[16:10] <escott> The_Other_Guy, the point is not to throw sudo on things unnecessarily. i would say 15-20% of the problems I see here are caused by people who immediately reach for sudo when they have difficulties
[16:10] <sacarlson> stdd: yes and with the image file you can posibly recover the data in the future when you figure out how it can be done or you get an expert to help
[16:11] <escott> bou, wubi (the windows installer) installs on top of windows. there is no linux partition and windows cannot be removed
[16:11] <subz3r0> hi there. How do i check on 12.04 if the sambadaemon is runnin or not?
[16:11] <Ignit> ActionParsnip: Only works if there is something in the drive
[16:12] <Pecker> pid samba?
[16:13] <escott> subz3r0, ps aux | grep smbd or service samba status (not sure if the service name is samba or not)
[16:14] <The_Other_Guy> escott: You need appropriate privileges to access the device files. Running as root or setuid root is required to eject some devices (e.g. SCSI devices).
[16:15] <subz3r0> escott: serive samba status does not work. but "status smbd"
[16:15] <bou> thanks escott
[16:15] <subz3r0> has to be "service smbd status". thx
[16:17] <escott> The_Other_Guy, one can always come up with some convoluted situation where sudo is necessary
[16:18] <The_Other_Guy> escott: Give me a break. sudo is sometimes needed. We'll just have to disagree and move on.
[16:18] <sachael> can anyone recommend me a light-weight pdf viewer? I'm using evince; tried avplv and zathura, which are supposed to be what I need, but are actually slower than evince.
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> escott: smbd is the service name :)
[16:19] <escott> ActionParsnip, yeah i dont run it on mine so i couldn't look it up, but subz3r0 figured it out
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> escott: groovy
[16:20] <escott> sachael, in what way is evince not light-weight enough for you?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: xpdf maybe
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> !info xpdf
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> !info evince
[16:21] <scuey> Hi, does anyone have a Nvidia 675m working with Bumblebee that they can confirm?  I would feel a lot better about my (potential) decision to buy one of someone could confirm it.
[16:22] <sachael> escott: it is actually lightweight, I'm just wondering if there is perhaps something else. (there is also rudimentary vim-like keybindings in evince, I love that :)
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> escott: xpdf is a third the size
[16:22] <sachael> xpdf is kinda uglo tho :(
[16:23] <escott> sachael, it sounds like evince is not too hot and not too cold, but just right
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: who cares, you are looking at the document
[16:23] <frank_> Hello all
[16:23] <sacarlson> you need my aproval for sachael ActionParsnip: for xpdf?  I just use the default pdf reader
[16:23] <frank_> how is everyone doing today?
[16:23] <frank_> anyone has issues with their wireless not working?
[16:24] <frank_> the drivers are detected that is and it will not accept the passphrase?
[16:24] <sachael> ActionParsnip: are you perhaps respoing to my queries? it was me asking about pdf readers
[16:24] <The_Other_Guy> frank: We need more info than that. What distro, hardware, etc. are you using?
[16:24] <frank_> well i recently discovered how to fix this
[16:24] <frank_> well hold on
[16:25] <sacarlson> frank_: solved your own problem?  cool
[16:25] <frank_> Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2915ABG
[16:25] <frank_> that is the addapter
[16:25] <frank_> adapter*
[16:25] <frank_> well all i needed to do is restart my network services to get it to work
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> sachael: yeah, bad TAB
[16:26] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: oh ya first same 3 leters
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: indeed
[16:26] <frank_> i have been looking for a solution for this issue for a while now
[16:26] <sachael> Evince is actually one of the few gnome programs I like
[16:27] <frank_> well i don't know who needed this help but i was hoping that more people would be having issues with ubuntu 12.04 and wireless
[16:28] <frank_> its all over the internet with wireless and ubuntu issues
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> frank_: not had a wireless issue ever, since gutsy when I started with Ubuntu and even before then :)
[16:28] <frank_> oh thats nice
[16:28] <sacarlson> frank_: ya alot but mostly with broadcom devices,  what's the command line you use to restart the network?
[16:28] <frank_> ok hold on
[16:29] <frank_> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:29] <frank_> thats it
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> frank_: if you buy compatible stuff it works nicer :)
[16:30] <frank_> ya but most people these days run windows
[16:30] <The_Other_Guy> frank:  Noooooo! Don't use SUDO. You'll incur the wrath of the overlords!!!!  JK!
[16:30] <frank_> so they don't really care about what hardware they have
[16:30] <frank_> lol
[16:30] <Kroach> is there a blue variant of the Ambiance theme from Ubuntu 12.04, so that everything would be the same, just blue instead of orange?
[16:30] <escott> frank_, "sudo service networking restart" is preferred to calling /etc/init.d directly
[16:30] <frank_> windows is overpriced thats for sure
[16:31] <The_Other_Guy> Oh, the irony!
[16:31] <frank_> escott, oh ok
[16:31] <dougl> anyone know/have any experience with apcupsd and cgi webinterface for daemon running on my 12.04 install - how do I look at my ups config in my browser?
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> frank_: most companies give more love to windows, if you buy the ones that support your OS, you will help secure support :)
[16:31] <manpussy> WHO WANTS TO LICK A TASTY SHORT DICK FOR TEN DOLLARS
[16:31] <vibhav> !ops | manpussy
[16:31] <frank_> i understand ActionParsnip
[16:31] <Pecker> !language | manpussy
[16:31] <jrib> kb manpussy
[16:32]  * jrib saves the / for later
[16:32] <frank_> i wanted to find out how much system resources i am using in ubuntu..how can i do that?
[16:32] <escott> frank_, gui or cli tools?
[16:33] <frank_> gui if i could please
[16:33] <escott> frank_, gnome-system-monitor then
[16:33] <frank_> oh ok thanks escott
[16:35] <frank_> have a good one guys..
[16:35] <frank_> take care for now
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> df -h    is easier...
[16:41] <morsnowski> or you could get conky
[16:42] <kevin_takeshi> Hey guys
[16:42] <kevin_takeshi> While running the software eclectus I encountered this message and the software is not getting initiated
[16:42] <kevin_takeshi> Global::locale::Warning your global KLocale is being recreated with a valid main component instead of a fake component, this usually means you tried to call i18n related functions before your main component was created. You should not do that since it most likely will not work
[16:42] <kevin_takeshi> Writing to db: sqlite:////home/sudarshan/.kde/share/apps/eclectus/dictionaries.db
[16:42] <kevin_takeshi> Attached db: cjklib, sqlite:////usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/libeclectus/libeclectus.db, sqlite:////usr/local/share/eclectus/cmn-caen-tan/cmn-caen-tan.db, sqlite:////usr/local/share/eclectus/chi-balm-hsk1/chi-balm-hsk1.db
[16:42] <kevin_takeshi> Traceback (most recent call last):
[16:42] <kevin_takeshi>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/eclectusqt/renderthread.py", line 334, in run
[16:42] <FloodBot1> kevin_takeshi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:42] <kevin_takeshi>     classInstance = entryClassObject(*args, **param)
[16:45] <kevin_takeshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1056227/
[16:47] <induz> the usb sd card is not getting recognized by 'photorec' or 'testdisk'
[16:48] <stygzy> is it mounted
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> induz: if it doesn't show up in: sudo fdisk -l     it won't, installing apps won't make it appear
[16:50] <stygzy> so is this the channel where i ask help?
[16:50] <lebedev> Hi! Tell me what the default display manager runs in 12.04? Where is the configuration of windows managers?
[16:51] <31NABLH6G> :-)
[16:52] <k1l> lebedev: lightdm is the standard display manager
[16:52] <induz> ActionParsnip, its not getting identified by the system and here is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1056244/
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> induz: use the lsusb output and search for guides and/or bugs for the 8 character hex ID
[16:54] <lebedev> k1l: Thank you!
[16:54] <induz> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1056251/
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> induz: '0644:0200 TEAC Corp'   is the ID
[16:57] <induz> ActionParsnip, its a Sandisk sd card 4Gb
[16:58] <lorddelta> hi, is gcj important to have? I'm in the middle of solving some problems, and in prep. I'm cleaning house, and making sure all my packages are up-to-date; but upgrading cpp-4.4 for instance requires the removal of the gcj packages, so I'm wondering if its important to keep them around. I'm not personally using them, I dev with the official oracle jdk, if and when I dev java.
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> induz: thats irellevant, the SD card reader isn't working. You could jam a 400Gb SD card in and it would be the same
[16:59] <murdoc> Can someone please tell me how to start troubleshooting my mythbuntu 12.4 system? it broke Xserver after a ubgrade from 10.10. root can start X but the user cannot and the x log says something about x server being unavailable. During the bootup it never makes it to the X server and I'm trying to start from a terminal, is this why X is busy?
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> murdoc: did you upgrade to 11.04 and 11.10 in between?
[17:00] <lorddelta> If no one tells me otherwise, I'll just un-install the gcj packages.
[17:00] <induz> ActionParsnip, I insert the sdCard on the slot built onto the dell system and also I used usb cardReader..the sd card is not getting recognised...i used another card and its the same
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> murdoc: or did you upgrade from Maverick to Precise directly?
[17:01] <stygzy> I'm trying to map the extra buttons on 3 use mice that i use simultaneously, 2 Gyration Air mice and a Logitech marblemouse. Do I do that through the configuration file or would a program work better
[17:01] <murdoc> Action: yes it broke after the first upgrade and then I doubled down thinking it would fix itself in one of the upgrades. I got x back for a while after resolving an .Xauthorty issue but then another update and X was gone
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> induz: thats because the SD card reader isn't being used right
[17:01] <murdoc> yes i went from 10. to 11. to 11. then 12
[17:01] <induz> ActionParsnip, i used ebooster, a program to boost RAM via usb memory...after that it all is happening
[17:02] <murdoc> durring the first attempt to start X I see the nvidia flashscreen
[17:02] <murdoc> then i loose it.
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> murdoc: I'd suggest a fresh install personally
[17:02] <murdoc> yeah,
[17:02] <Riddla> Hi guys, I've just created a 12.04 portable install on a WD 500Gb MyPassport. It works fine on my laptop, but stalls on the boot screen on my desktop, the mouse cursor appears and responds, but the boot screen never drops to reveal the desktop. Are there any common causes for this or resources I could take a look at please?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> induz: usb is slow as anything, you'll get better performance from the swap space in your internal storage
[17:02] <murdoc> I get that but I'd like to not chance loosing any of the data from my myth backend
[17:02] <Riddla> (Sorry, you guys seem really busy!)
[17:03] <induz> ActionParsnip, so my inbuilt cardReader and usb cardreader and both sd cards are gone bad
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> murdoc: your backups will prevent data loss
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> induz: possibly, use the hex IDs to find guides
[17:03] <Pecker> are the laptop and desktop similar CPUs?
[17:03] <murdoc> Action: true
[17:03] <centooos> hi all, my bluetooth  is disable on ubuntu 11.10. what can i do plz?!
[17:03] <induz> ActionParsnip, that ebooster I used on win7 syatem
[17:03] <Riddla> Pecker: The desktop is an i7 2600k and the laptop is a mobile i5 3ghz
[17:04] <Riddla> So essentially, yeah :|
[17:04] <Pecker> weird
[17:04] <Riddla> That's what I though :|
[17:04] <Riddla> +t
[17:05] <centooos> my bluetooth is disable, can any one give me his/her file /etc/init.d/bluetooth ?
[17:05] <Pecker> centooos: reinstall bluez?
[17:05] <centooos> Pecker, no
[17:05] <lorddelta> Nothing broke yet! 8D
[17:06] <lolwut2> hey
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> induz: its still going to be slow, USB access is slowwww
[17:06] <Riddla> Pecker: Would it be possibly caused by my lack of an on board graphics chip? I run a P67 chipset gaming motherboard with a GTX 580 and it doesn't have integrated graphics like the laptop does.
[17:07] <Pecker> Riddla: that would rpobably do it
[17:07] <Riddla> Piss.
[17:07] <Riddla> :|
[17:07] <bjrohan> Anyone here have experience with Cairo-Dock?
[17:07] <Pecker> centooos: i meant reinstall bluez package... as we arent going to give you files like that
[17:07] <oCean> Riddla: control your language here, please
[17:07] <Riddla> oCean: ... okay.
[17:07] <escott> !nomodeset | Riddla
[17:08] <Riddla> escott: Lovely, I'll take a look, thanks :)
[17:08] <centooos> Pecker, i reinstall that now , but is disable still.
[17:08] <lolwut2> ciaro
[17:08] <induz> ActionParsnip, what should i do now???? plz help
[17:08] <yuri__> Hello. I don't see jabber in the list of empathy protos after update to 12.10.
[17:08] <yuri__> Is that empathy app in upper right corner?
[17:08] <oCean> yuri__: Quantal/12.10 is a development release (still Alpha). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[17:08] <bjrohan> I have Cairo installed, it works fine with transparency in Gnome, but in KDE it has a black background :-(
[17:09] <escott> Riddla, you'll end up needing two different boot options. one with nomodeset for the gtx, and the other with modeseting for the intel. you could even try installing the nvidia drivers and somehow blacklisting them but that would probably break things
[17:09] <Riddla> escott: I was considering installing them on the laptop (since the installation is portable) and seeing if that fixes things on the desktop
[17:10] <escott> installing nvidia will almost certainly break things when its not present
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> induz: search for the IS I posted, like I already said.
[17:10] <Riddla> Hmm.
[17:10] <ntwrk_keith> Hello. I have a question... I have 2 shares, one which I want users who are in smbpasswd to be able to access it and another share where I only want 1 specific user to be able to access it
[17:11] <Pecker> valid-users=specificuser
[17:11] <Pecker> irc
[17:11] <Pecker> iirc*
[17:12] <Riddla> I'll give nomodeset a go and investigate from there, thanks for the help Pecker and escott :)
[17:12] <yuri__> how is that it's still alpha if it was written LTS?
[17:12] <lolwut2> dam
[17:12] <yuri__> it was proposed by update manager. why do you propose unstable things?
[17:13] <jrib> yuri__: 12.10 hasn't been released
[17:13] <oCean> yuri__: you said 12.10, the LTS is 12.04, use the command lsb_release -a to see your current version
[17:13] <BrixSat1> Hello i have a patch file and i would like to apply it using a guy or view what will change and where
[17:13] <yuri__> says 12.04
[17:13] <jrib> BrixSat1: what?
[17:14] <oCean> yuri__: ok, so no 12.10 :)
[17:14] <yuri__> Codename:precise
[17:14] <yuri__> where's my jabber then?
[17:14] <lolwut2> dam
[17:14] <BrixSat1> jrib:  i have a software (source code) and i would like to patch it but view what will change (since the patch is a little bit older thant the source)
[17:14] <oCean> lolwut2: do you have a support question?
[17:14] <jrib> BrixSat1: read the patch file
[17:14] <BrixSat1> i dont understand that
[17:14] <ntwrk_keith> Pecker: I put that under the share?
[17:14] <centooos> i use "sudo apt-get --reinstall install bluez" but my blutooth is still disable. wta should i do?please
[17:15] <Pecker> in the smb.conf yes
[17:15] <jrib> BrixSat1: what don't you understand?
[17:15] <Pecker> i think thats was how it worked
[17:15] <BrixSat1> jrib:  that is only +++ and --- with some code :/ hard reading
[17:16] <ntwrk_keith> Pecker, dont think that worked
[17:16] <Pecker> let me get on my linux machine...
[17:16] <escott> BrixSat1, im not sure its going to get much easier. there are chunks between the +++ and --- with line numbers after the @ symbol. the chunks have a + on lines that are added a - on lines that are removed and " " in front of context lines
[17:16] <yuri__> online accounts => only windows live & google.
[17:16] <yuri__> id like to have my jabber chat back
[17:17] <escott> BrixSat1, but if you had to have a side by side comparison you could put it all into a git or mercurial archive and setup meld as your diff util
[17:17] <jrib> BrixSat1: read through diff's man page if you want to know about the syntax.  But basically, there will be a header for each chunk that tells you where the change is going to happen, and lines prefixed by '+' will be added while lines prefixed by '-' will be removed
[17:17] <induz> AcidRain2012, thanks i am searching and following the steps but nothing so far
[17:17] <BrixSat1> escott:  i have meld but i cant seem to be abble to view where i put the path file for comparison, or would i have to apply it first and then compare?
[17:18] <jrib> BrixSat1: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/1237 here some baby steps
[17:18] <escott> BrixSat1, meld doesnt work with patch files. you would have to apply the patch file and then use meld to compare pre and post patch variants. tools like hg and git will make those copies for you if you know how to use them
[17:18] <WeThePeople> is there anything akin to windows batch file for linux, to open up chrome with multiple tabs?
[17:18] <BrixSat1> :)
[17:19] <GobShite> yer there called scripts
[17:19] <Pecker> ntwrk_keith: valid users = @specificusergroup
[17:20] <ntwrk_keith> what if its just one username
[17:20] <ntwrk_keith> and not a group
[17:20] <yuri__> looks like that's a different settings
[17:20] <Pecker> ntwrk_keith: all uesrs have their own group
[17:20] <GobShite> WeThePeople, just make a new empty txt file on your desktop and then
[17:20] <GobShite> right click it and make it executable
[17:20] <Pecker> eg if your user is 'ubuntu' there is a group 'ubuntu' that is only ubuntu in it
[17:21] <GobShite> put wut you want inside it and save
[17:21] <GobShite> then start it like a bat
[17:21] <ntwrk_keith> so
[17:21] <ntwrk_keith> valid users = @ubuntu
[17:21] <ntwrk_keith> ?
[17:21] <Pecker> yep
[17:21] <wylde_> !bash | WeThePeople
[17:22] <Pecker> change 'ubuntu' to whatever the username if obviously
[17:22] <Darael> I'm using Precise, and I can't switch keyboard layouts.  The indicator shows up when more than one layout is set up, and the icon will change if I select another layout from its menu, but the item with the dot in the menu doesn't change and nor does my effective keyboard layout.  I can't change even if I remove the one I'm in from the list, and the extra options don't work.
[17:22] <Pecker> is*
[17:22] <ntwrk_keith> Ok let me try
[17:22] <escott> WeThePeople, any file marked executable is presumed executable (things like .bat and .exe mean nothing) but you do need to tell the system what interpreter to run the commands with (in windows command.com runs the .bat's) and that is done with a shebang #!/bin/bash or #!/bin/perl on the first line
[17:22] <yuri__> test
[17:23] <yuri__> also, i've got some strangeness with status bar  - i can't get batteryt indicator on it
[17:23] <yuri__> the setting is empty, when i select it, it doesnt'[ save
[17:23] <ntwrk_keith> Nope not working :(
[17:23] <yuri__> next time i open the selector, it's empty again. definitely bug in configuration registry of gnome
[17:23] <ntwrk_keith> is there a way to view user groups?
[17:23] <yuri__> how do i cure it?
[17:24] <escott> ntwrk_keith, "groups" on the cli
[17:24] <ntwrk_keith> that does not work
[17:24] <Pecker> did you restart samba
[17:24] <ntwrk_keith> yes
[17:24] <escott> !work | ntwrk_keith
[17:24] <ntwrk_keith> I restart samba after every change
[17:25] <ntwrk_keith> kc@server:~$ groups
[17:25] <ntwrk_keith> kc adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[17:25] <thatsachop> haha
[17:25] <Pecker> so your use is 'kc
[17:25] <ntwrk_keith> no
[17:25] <Pecker> er user is kc
[17:25] <ntwrk_keith> I created another user
[17:25] <Pecker> whats that username
[17:25] <ntwrk_keith> xbmc
[17:26] <Pecker> so valid users = @xbmc
[17:26] <ntwrk_keith> yes
[17:26] <Pecker> then make sure xbmc is in that group
[17:26] <ntwrk_keith> and it said the account didnt have permissions
[17:26] <Pecker> open launcher and go to users&groups
[17:26] <escott> Pecker, on 12.04 a lot of the functionality of that has been removed. i can't figure another way to do it than the cli
[17:27] <ntwrk_keith> this is a ubuntu server, only CLI
[17:27] <Pecker> ah
[17:27] <escott> ntwrk_keith, to add a user to a group it is "sudo usermod -a -G groupname username"
[17:27] <BobMarley> hi, i have the xchat installed in my system, but when i do
[17:27] <BobMarley> bob@bob-laptop:~$ xchat
[17:27] <BobMarley> The program 'xchat' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[17:27] <BobMarley> sudo apt-get install xchat
[17:27] <BobMarley> the xchat is not opened
[17:27] <kolya> Is it possible to ask a very very basic question about installation in here or is there a better place?
[17:27] <fungmen> dear master i want asking something
[17:28] <escott> !ask | kolya fungmen
[17:28] <Darael> BobMarley: How did you install xchat?  If you did something other than using the Software Centre, Synaptic, apt-get, or similar, remove it and get it from the repositories.
[17:28] <escott> BobMarley, type xchat[TAB]
[17:28] <oCean> BobMarley: the message "xchat is currently not installed" seems to indicate otherwise
[17:28] <fungmen> !rules | kolya
[17:29] <Pecker> so ntwrk_keith what does groups xbmc say
[17:29] <oCean> kolya: sure, basic questions are welcome too
[17:29] <wylde_> go ahead and ask kolya
[17:29] <ntwrk_keith> it says xbmc : xbmc
[17:29] <Pecker> ok so xbmc is par of xbmc group
[17:30] <Pecker> so valid users = @xbmc
[17:30] <ntwrk_keith> yep
[17:30] <kolya> I plan to run the Windows installer on a laptop where there are two partitions: C & D. I'm not sure which one I should choose for the installation. What information should I give you to help me work out which one to use for the installation?
[17:30] <Pecker> thats under the sahre you want to restirct correct?
[17:30] <ntwrk_keith> telling me I dont have permissions still
[17:30] <ntwrk_keith> Yes
[17:31] <escott> kolya, you can also shrink partitions with gparted. thats usually preferable to removing them entirely. boot the livecd and the use paste.ubuntu.com to send us the output of sudo parted -l
[17:31] <Pecker> ok for the shrae folder does xmbc has permissions to view the folder
[17:31] <Darael> kolya: "C" and "D" are Windows-specific identifiers.  Your Windows install is almost certainly on C:\, and will have "Program Files" and "WINDOWS" folders in it.  If you don't want to remove either, I advise following escott's advice.
[17:31] <ntwrk_keith> It should, yes
[17:32] <Pecker> ntwrk_keith: thats wcheck, not i think so
[17:32] <ntwrk_keith> ?
[17:32] <Pecker> check to see if xbmc has rwx permissiosn for the folder which samba shares from
[17:32] <ntwrk_keith> its ch*** ?
[17:33] <ntwrk_keith> but I'm newb, please refresh my memory
[17:33] <BobMarley> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/o8mgshgr873js83/6xLuh3mNuu
[17:33] <kolya> My plan is to be able to run windows normally and Ubuntu occasionally. I hadn't planned on removing windows. I'm afraid I don't understand anything about shrinking partitions at the moment.
[17:33] <BobMarley> but when i run : xchat it says it is not installed
[17:33] <escott> kolya, we can walk you through it
[17:34] <kolya> That would be very helpful escott
[17:34] <stygzy> i think its in control panel under administrator tools
[17:34] <Pecker> ntwrk_keith: sudo chmod -R 0775 /pathto/samba/share/folder
[17:34] <escott> BobMarley, what does it say when you type xchat[TAB][ENTER]
[17:34] <escott> BobMarley, what does it say when you type xchat[TAB]
[17:34] <BobMarley> escott,
[17:34] <BobMarley> bob@bob-laptop:~$ xchat[TAB]
[17:34] <BobMarley> xchat[TAB]: command not found
[17:34] <oCean> BobMarley: you installed the package xchat-gnome, which is different from xchat. See what escott says, type xchat and hit tab, it should autocomplete the command to xchat-gnome
[17:35] <Pecker> BobMarley: NOOB!
[17:35] <GobShite> lol
[17:35] <escott> BobMarley, by [TAB] i mean the TAB key
[17:35] <oCean> BobMarley: use the tabk key
[17:35] <ntwrk_keith> Pecker, did that, still a permissions issue
[17:35] <Pecker> [TAB] means PRESS TAB
[17:35] <GobShite> sudo apt-get install xchat
[17:35] <escott> !tab | BobMarley
[17:35] <kolya> Would it be easier for me to download ubuntu onto a USB and use that to install it I wonder? Is there a page which can explain to me the differences between the two methods of installation?
[17:35] <wylde_> Pecker, not helpful
[17:35] <oCean> Pecker: dont do that ever again
[17:36] <Pecker> idk what the hell happened
[17:36] <Pecker> all of the sudde i quit
[17:36] <oCean> Pecker: I removed you
[17:36] <Pecker> could soemoen fill me in on what happened
[17:36] <GobShite> BOOT !
[17:36] <Pecker> removed for what
[17:36] <escott> Pecker, don't say NOOB its not polite
[17:36] <Pecker> i didnt do anything
[17:36] <oCean> Pecker: you cannot ever call anyone a noob
[17:36] <Pecker> ah
[17:36] <BobMarley> ah, when i press tab it gives : xchat-gnome
[17:36] <Pecker> you could haev said that without a kick
[17:37] <kolya> I'd happily get called a noob
[17:37] <oCean> kolya: let's move on
[17:37] <GobShite> we all noobs even nix gods are kinda noob ;)
[17:37] <Darael> Pecker: You mocked someone for not knowing something.  That's unhelpful.  Yes, oCean could have done so without the removal, but I doubt it'd stick quite so well.
[17:37] <kolya> :)
[17:37] <GobShite> hahah
[17:37] <Pecker> anyways ntwrk_keith reboot the system just to make sure it isnt going crazy
[17:37] <stygzy> my other nick is no0basaurs
[17:37] <The_Other_Guy> Now "noob" is a dirty word? Puhleeeze....
[17:37] <stygzy> you guys can always talk dirty to me
[17:37] <Pecker> all that did was piss me off oCean
[17:37] <The_Other_Guy> Me too!
[17:37] <Darael> The problem, as I see it, is not the word "noob", but the associated mockery of someone who didn't know something.
[17:37] <Darael> Now can we move on?
[17:37] <GobShite> no, its not but if its used to demean it kinda put off people coming to learn
[17:37] <wylde_> !coc | Pecker
[17:38] <The_Other_Guy> Oh, well now that the "adult" has spoken. :/
[17:38] <oCean> Pecker: you mind your language here, i already told you before
[17:38] <Pecker> you get to even sign the coc? thats new
[17:38] <stygzy> its not the word but the thoughts being expressed by the words that are the problem, words are just a tool for communication.
[17:38] <escott> kolya, are you in the livecd yet?
[17:38] <kolya> I've opened the windows installer
[17:38] <escott> kolya, so thats wubi thats something different
[17:39] <kolya> *downloaded and running the windows installer
[17:39] <HelloWorld321> Is there a preferred alternative to SAMBA ?
[17:39] <HelloWorld321> (besides not letting windows users hit your server ... heh)
[17:39] <Darael> kolya: I would avoid using WUBI if it's practical to do so; there are some irritating problems with it and it's marginally slower.
[17:39] <kolya> ah ok
[17:39] <escott> kolya, you have three install options basically. (a) a real install with its own partition (b) wubi which uses part of the windows filesystem but not a partition and (c) a virtual machine like virtual box
[17:39] <kolya> I think I might be best to download to USB in that case
[17:39] <HelloWorld321> I started with WUBI, and it led to problems later.  But it's a mild way to get started
[17:39] <Darael> HelloWorld321: Depends on your application.  FTP, NFS, WebDAV...
[17:40] <ubuntuuser> I recommend vbox, I've just got ubuntu working on that :) I'm new to linux
[17:40] <wylde_> !nfs | HelloWorld321 works nicely here.
[17:40] <escott> kolya, i don't like (b) because its the worst of (a) and (c) without any advantages. its slower than (a) [not as slow as (c)] but you cant run both windows and ubuntu simultaneously like (c)
[17:40] <kolya> Is there a page which outlines the differences between the 3 installation possibilities that I can read?
[17:40] <kolya> ah thanks escott
[17:41] <stygzy> I'm trying to map the extra buttons on 3 use mice that i use simultaneously, 2 Gyration Air mice and a Logitech marblemouse. Should I do it via the i xorg.conf.d config files or is there a program you guys can recommend?
[17:41] <escott> kolya, if you are just trying things out then wubi or virtualbox or a persistent liveusb are good choices, but if you plan to use it regularly and don't mind rebooting/don't want to deal with vm overhead then you want (a)
[17:41] <ubuntuuser> Only problem I've noticed with vbox is that the scroll wheel doesn't work but that shouldn't be a massive issue for you.
[17:42] <brandonj> I've never had scroll wheel problems in vbox
[17:42] <Darael> stygzy: Depends what you want to do.  Quite a lot can be done with ccsm, but I don't think that allows per-mouse settings.  xorg.conf.d is almost certainly your must flexible solution.
[17:42] <ludlow> anyone having problems install dropbox?
[17:42] <ludlow> erry, installing dropbox?
[17:42] <Darael> !anyone | ludlow
[17:42] <ubuntuuser> brandonj, doesn't seem to affect everyone from what I can tell
[17:43] <ludlow> does anyone having problems installing dropbox?
[17:43] <ludlow> lol
[17:43] <kolya> Well, my school uses ubuntu but my laptop is windows. I think i might start with something easy to handle and then change once I'm more comfortable. This weekend is crucial for me to get it working mainly to use OpenShot to edit some videos for presentations to the school on Monday.