[09:56] <JyZyXEL> EriC^^: if you don't have a /boot, then you are restricted to only using UEFI boot
[09:57] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: what do you mean
[09:57] <RahulAN> Flannel, E: Unable to locate package libnih
[09:57] <Flannel> RahulAN: Oh sorry, that should be `libnih1+`
[09:57] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: if you don't use a seperate /boot how are you restricted to using only uefi?
[09:57] <Flannel> RahulAN: (I forgot the 1)
[09:57] <EriC^^> you mean you want to use this installation with legacy too?
[09:58] <daftykins> JyZyXEL: that's erroneous
[09:58] <RahulAN> Flannel, Errors https://bpaste.net/show/5622b4aa7e52
[09:58] <JyZyXEL> EriC^^: well how would grub boot the system if you used normal BIOS boot?
[09:58] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: well you add a bios-boot partition before the EFI one
[09:58] <jotterbot> can anyone link me to a modern website guide for MDADM RAID1 boot with redundant grub installation? 14.04 server
[09:58] <EriC^^> that way you can use it on a uefi system
[09:58] <Flannel> Gah.  You installed all sorts of stuff from debian :(  Alright.  Go ahead and do the `apt-get -f install`
[09:58] <EriC^^> i mean legacy system
[09:59] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: it's a 2MB partition so that gpt will work with legacy
[09:59] <JyZyXEL> EriC^^: but that is just 1MiB in size and doesn't contain a filesystem?
[09:59] <JyZyXEL> you cannot store kernel and initrd there
[09:59] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: it should work with uefi and legacy then
[09:59] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: it's not for the kernel
[09:59] <JyZyXEL> its for grubs stage2
[09:59] <EriC^^> it's just so that you can use gpt with legacy
[10:00] <RahulAN> Flannel, it worked successfully
[10:00] <Flannel> RahulAN: Alright, lets just verify: apt-cache policy libc6
[10:00] <RahulAN> Flannel, Previous command also worked fine now
[10:00] <JyZyXEL> EriC^^: so how does the bios booted grub know how to get the kernel and initrd off the EFI System partition?
[10:01] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: the stuff aren't in the efi system partition, they are in /boot
[10:01] <Flannel> RahulAN: well, you didn't need to do the previous one if that one worked, heh.  But ok!  What's the apt-cache policy say for libc6?
[10:01] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: the efi partition is what is in /boot/efi
[10:01] <RahulAN> https://bpaste.net/show/0aca41f9a8d7
[10:01] <JyZyXEL> EriC^^: but i you just said not to use /boot :D
[10:01] <RahulAN> Flannel, ^^
[10:01] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: it's basically /EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi or grubx64.efi
[10:01] <EriC^^> and a grub.cfg file
[10:02] <Flannel> RahulAN: Alright, good.  yes.  Ok, now we just need to remove that file that we added to /etc/apt/preferences.d/, I think we called it /etc/apt/preferences.d/downgrade?
[10:02] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: i said not to use a seperate /boot partition
[10:02] <RahulAN> Flannel, ohkk
[10:02] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: you said you wanted to simplify stuff
[10:02] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: i meant /boot will be part of "/"
[10:02] <RahulAN> Flannel, Done
[10:02] <RahulAN> Flannel, is it Done now??
[10:02] <RahulAN> :)
[10:03] <JyZyXEL> EriC^^: well the grub cannot read stuff from / because its encrypted and lvm'd of course
[10:03] <JyZyXEL> and only the initramfs opens it
[10:03] <Flannel> RahulAN: yes.  Do another update, just to be sure it's cleared out, and then you should be able to install guake
[10:03] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: many people use encrypted installations
[10:03] <RahulAN> Flannel, ohkk
[10:03] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: ok
[10:04] <RahulAN> Flannel, It is perfect
[10:04] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: so make a seperate /boot
[10:04] <JyZyXEL> :D
[10:04] <RahulAN> Flannel, its awsome now
[10:04] <Flannel> RahulAN: Glad you got it sorted out.  Now don't go adding random repositories again ;)
[10:05] <JyZyXEL> EriC^^: yeah thats probably the only good solution
[10:05] <RahulAN> Flannel, Yes never and do i need dist-upgrade??
[10:05] <EriC^^> JyZyXEL: yes, and a seperate efi
[10:06] <Flannel> RahulAN: You don't need to.  But you probably could.  We actually probably should've done one before removing that one downgrade file, just to make sure we got everything.
[10:06] <RahulAN> yes guake also installed
[10:06] <Flannel> RahulAN: so, lets just be on the safe side.  Re-add that file, do an update, then dist-upgrade (then remove the file)
[10:07] <RahulAN> Flannel, I don't need 14.04, I am afraid if any of the function didn't worked then??
[10:07] <AlexPortable> Can I customize the hotkey which indicator-spotlight uses?
[10:07] <AlexPortable> I want to change the hotkey to winkey instead of winkey+alt+spacebar
[10:07] <Flannel> RahulAN: "dist-upgrade" won't take you to 14.04 (unless you've mucked around with other stuff).  In this case, that that downgrade file, it'll remove any other debian packages (which could cause problems down the road)
[10:08] <RahulAN> Ohk
[10:10] <RahulAN> Flannel, Done.. some packages are installing
[10:13] <cable> nemo...
[10:14] <cable> wake up.
[10:14] <cable> Follow the white rabbit.
[10:16] <bcvery1> I keep losing control of my mouse, the cursor is movable but cannot click anything.  xkill produces the message 'unable to grab cursor' (GNOME-Ubuntu 14.04.1)
[10:24] <Poyraz76>  Pisi Linux doesn t use systemd. Because of this it doens t share your data with anybody. It is reliability and sheer. Use Pisi Linux and be happy!
[10:24] <lolek> Hi everybody
[10:24] <EriC^^> Pisi linux?
[10:24] <EriC^^> nice name
[10:25] <lolek> I've got situation, it seems that all my desktop launchers suddenly stopped working :/ If i execute the command from cmd line it works, but when I db click it nothing happens, any idea if there was some  update that broke this>
[10:26] <EriC^^> explosive diarrhea linux
[10:26] <daftykins> EriC^^: runs well ;)
[10:26] <daftykins> almost... too well
[10:26] <EriC^^> haha
[10:29] <lolek> or if no one knows, under which category I should post a bug for it?
[10:29] <ReScO> hello
[10:30] <ReScO> what can i use to ban known hacking/spam ip's from accessing my server?
[10:30] <ReScO> something like PeerBlock but then rather for servers
[10:30] <daftykins> what services? SSH?
[10:31] <ReScO> any
[10:31] <Ben64> iptables, ufw
[10:31] <ReScO> if the ip is known to be "bad" autoban it in iptables
[10:31] <daftykins> yeah look into blacklisting
[10:34] <sbliven> EriC^^: Hey, you around?
[10:34] <EriC^^> sbliven: yeah, what's up?
[10:35] <sbliven> EriC^^: I'm back to debugging EFI
[10:35] <sbliven> my EFI shell doesn't have a bcfg command
[10:35] <EriC^^> sbliven: ok
[10:35] <sbliven> this is weird, since the shell is version 2.31, which should have it
[10:35] <EriC^^> sbliven: try help
[10:35] <sbliven> I'm thinking of updating my BIOS
[10:35] <sbliven> help works
[10:36] <xhor> what is the name of the "evolution mail" app in ubuntu? in ubuntu software center it shows as installed, but I can't find it in my apps (nothing for 'mail' or 'evol')
[10:36] <EriC^^> any commands that stand out?
[10:36] <xhor> actually looking for evolution calendar
[10:36] <EriC^^> try typing FS0:
[10:37] <sbliven> EriC^^: map -b includes fs0, with the same hash that I have in my /boot/efi/.../grub.cfg
[10:37] <xhor> it's funny that each app has 3 names: the 'software center name', its package name (in apt-get) and the actual name in the installed apps
[10:38] <xhor> any idea what the 'installed app name' is for evolution mail or evolution calendar?
[10:40] <EriC^^> sbliven: ok
[10:41] <sbliven> EriC^^: There's also a guid command, but it has tons of output
[10:42] <sbliven> I don't see any of my disk UUIDs in the list, so I think its just for other peripherals.
[10:43] <EriC^^> sbliven: try FS0:
[10:43] <EriC^^> then ls
[10:43] <sbliven> oh, with the colon?
[10:44] <sbliven> yes, I see my efi partition
[10:44] <EriC^^> ok
[10:44] <sbliven> I can cd to \EFI\ubuntu and I see shimx64.efi
[10:44] <EriC^^> ok
[10:44] <EriC^^> try reset
[10:44] <EriC^^> it should reset the efi stuff
[10:45] <daftykins> sbliven: what brand is this device out of interest?
[10:45] <daftykins> always good to know who's pushing quirky EFIs
[10:45] <sbliven> It's a gigabyte motherboard with Dual UEFI Bios
[10:46] <cfhowlett> !  dual uefi?  that just sounds ... kinky.
[10:46] <sbliven> but the ver command lists American Megatrends as the chip maker
[10:46] <sbliven> yeah, the dual means that it has a backup bios in case you screw something up while reflashing
[10:46] <daftykins> cfhowlett: nah just gigabytes terrible marchitecture of having two BIOS chips for redundancy during flash failures, total waste of $/£/€ if you ask me!
[10:47] <sbliven> EriC^^: no change after reset
[10:48] <EriC^^> sbliven: is the ubuntu entry still there?
[10:48] <sbliven> yes
[10:48] <sbliven> both ubuntu and ubuntu3
[10:48] <EriC^^> i wonder if we can manually boot the .efi file
[10:49] <daftykins> sbliven: if you have updates available i'd think that the #1 port of call for any EFI booting woes, though i haven't been following your issue properly
[10:50] <sbliven> daftykins: it was an update that broke my system
[10:50] <daftykins> oic
[10:53] <EriC^^> sbliven: maybe try to reset the bios?
[10:53] <sbliven> EriC^^: I've tried resetting CMOS
[10:53] <sbliven> I think I'll check for a bios update
[10:54] <EriC^^> sbliven: try to cd to \EFI\ubuntu
[10:54] <EriC^^> and type load shimx64.efi
[10:57] <sbliven> There is a new bios update, but it downloads as a .exe file
[10:58] <EriC^^> yeah
[10:58] <EriC^^> try load shimx64.efi
[10:58] <sbliven> oh, an error!
[10:58] <EriC^^> what's it say?
[10:58] <sbliven> shimx64.efi is not a image
[10:59] <sbliven> Exit status code: Invalid Parameter
[10:59] <EriC^^> try to load grubx64.efi
[10:59] <EriC^^> you did cd before right?
[10:59] <sbliven> yes
[10:59] <sbliven> same error for grubx64.efi
[10:59] <sbliven> theres also a MokManager.efi
[11:03] <sbliven> EriC^^: I tried `hexedit shimx64.efi` and got an error "Read File Failed. Load error"
[11:05] <EriC^^> sbliven: i see
[11:08] <EriC^^> sbliven: try edit grub.cfg
[11:08] <clarkk> in this video, it mentions a feature in unity on ubuntu 12.04 that allows you to search for submenu options of applications via the HUD. I've never seen this. http://youtu.be/SZU9XzJBgVc?t=3m43s
[11:08] <clarkk> can someone explain how to get it?
[11:09] <sbliven> EriC^^: I can edit the file (read and write)
[11:09] <EriC^^> ok
[11:09] <EriC^^> sbliven: is secure boot turned off?
[11:10] <EriC^^> i guess it's not related cause the hexedit isn't working too
[11:10] <sbliven> i don't remember seeing an option for it in bios
[11:11] <kahtahs> clarkk: press alt
[11:11] <sbliven> EriC^^: maybe I should reformat the partition?
[11:12] <EriC^^> sbliven: seems odd
[11:12] <EriC^^> cause we used the other efi partition
[11:12] <EriC^^> and i guess it should work too
[11:12] <EriC^^> you could try if you want
[11:12] <EriC^^> don't know what else we could try
[11:13] <sbliven> yeah, this is so weird
[11:13] <sennn> ubuntu have backdoor
[11:13] <clarkk> kahtahs: Iḿ afraid that doesnt do anything
[11:13] <sennn> i thought
[11:13] <cfhowlett> sennn, what are you talking about?
[11:14] <sennn> cfhowlett, i am talking about backdoor!!!
[11:14] <Fistious> how do i register my name? new here btw
[11:14] <cfhowlett> sennn, your proof??
[11:14] <daftykins> sennn: if you're claiming it has one, you're most likely mistaken
[11:14] <EriC^^> Fistious: /msg nickserv register <password> <email>
[11:14] <cfhowlett> !nick | Fistious,
[11:14] <Fistious> thanks
[11:14] <cfhowlett> Fistious, happy2help
[11:16] <sennn> maybe
[11:16] <EriC^^> sbliven: secureboot should be in the legacy/uefi selection screen somewhere
[11:16] <EriC^^> sbliven: could you use the other bios?
[11:17] <sbliven> EriC^^: I didn't see anything
[11:17] <sbliven> And you can't just switch between them, afaik
[11:17] <EriC^^> sbliven: i just renamed the shimx64 .efi files
[11:17] <sbliven> i think its an automatic backup option
[11:17] <EriC^^> and doing an apt-get --reinstall
[11:17] <cfhowlett> FistiousIronous, not sure that's an improvement ... :)
[11:17] <EriC^^> to see if that installs the .efi files in the efi partition
[11:18] <EriC^^> ok, it does
[11:18] <EriC^^> i've got new files there now
[11:18] <EriC^^> sbliven: so it's not corrupted files i guess
[11:18] <EriC^^> nor a corrupted filesystem i guess cause we tried 2
[11:19] <sbliven> EriC^^: reinstall grub?
[11:19] <EriC^^> i think it's the bios
[11:19] <EriC^^> cause it can't even load the .efi file first
[11:20] <sbliven> ok, i'll try to find a windows computer to extract the bios update
[11:20] <hateball> sbliven: you can usually just use cabextract or some other GUI tool to extract exes on Ubuntu
[11:23] <sbliven> hateball: I don't see cabextract in apt-get
[11:24] <hateball> sbliven: It's in the universe repository, so you need to enable that
[11:24] <hateball> !info cabextract
[11:26] <sbliven> ah, of course, livecd uses restricted by default
[11:27] <m1dnight_> Guys, I have done something wrong and by consequence I have to readd my ssh keys when i want to ssh to somewhere
[11:27] <m1dnight_> Anyone have an idea what it could be?
[11:27] <m1dnight_> I have to ssh-add ~/.ssh/keyfile before i can ssh
[11:28] <m1dnight_> Anyone have an idea?
[11:33] <sbliven> m1dnight_: what are the permissions on .ssh?
[11:34] <m1dnight_> rw-------  1 christophe christophe 6363 Nov  8 11:51 begijnhofserver
[11:34] <m1dnight_> this is one key that does not work
[11:35] <m1dnight_> So that could be it?
[11:35] <m1dnight_> i'll set the permissions properly, hold on i'll google
[11:35] <Ben64> why don't you have it as id_rsa
[11:36] <BalTun> can anybody help me with phpbrew switch util ? it switches php version only in the console but in sites there is old previouse used version... I already restarted apache2...
[11:37] <Ben64> BalTun: i'm not familiar with phpbrew, where did you get it
[11:39] <BalTun> Ben64: from here: https://github.com/phpbrew/phpbrew
[11:39] <Ben64> BalTun: then you should seek support from the developer
[11:49] <sbliven> EriC^^: I flashed the BIOS, but now my mysterious hardware error is back. It beeps the code for 'keyboard failure' and refuses to display the bios
[11:50] <sbliven> Maybe my motherboard failed, and its just a coincidence that I was doing an update at the same time
[11:50] <sbliven> this morning i fixed the error by resetting CMOS, but that's not fixing it now
[11:51] <Ben64> sbliven: you should head to ##hardware for hardware support
[11:53] <sbliven> And now it's booting again, so the BIOS flash was successful
[11:54] <zmaj> hi
[11:54] <zmaj> I have a problem with creating debian packages
[11:54] <cfhowlett> !packaging | zmaj
[11:55] <zmaj> I tried that...
[11:56] <eeb3> Erm. Just was using Clonezilla (livecd) to try and do data recovery (Disk to IMG) and after leting it do its thing for a few hours, just got a screen with 'Kernel Panic'. Being relative phebian to linux, I assume that we've reached a BSOD equivencallcy?
[11:56] <zmaj> that seems more like a tutorial for someone who wants to be a packager.I just made a very very simple app and want to release it.
[12:04] <zmaj> debian compiling is too complicated :(
[12:05] <cfhowlett> zmaj, it's not for everyone
[12:05] <bugtraq> buenos dias
[12:05] <cfhowlett> !es | bugtraq
[12:05] <zmaj> yeah but what now?
[12:06] <zmaj> I tried creating a .click package in the ubuntu sdk but in the publish tab I don't have the "click" column
[12:06] <cfhowlett> zmaj, you said it's too complicated.  learn how to package, hand it over to someone who can package or forget about packaging.
[12:07] <zmaj> where can I find someone who is willing to package?
[12:07] <cfhowlett> zmaj, ##linux or #ubuntu-developers ??
[12:07] <bazhang> !packaging | zmaj
[12:08] <sacarlson> zmaj: I've made a simple package with no compile.  I published it if you want to see
[12:08] <nwe> any idea whats can be wrong with thi.. I have added preseed/url=http://<ip>/preseed.cfg but when the installer start I get the normal installation.. looks like it doesnt get my preseed file..
[12:16] <nusr> when i do a whereis matplotlib i get /usr/share/matplotlib but matplotlib is also found in /lib/pymodules/matplotlib which is the folder to copy the python styles to..any idea why only /share/matplotlib shows?
[12:17] <sacarlson> nusr: I think whereis only looks in path that is set to execute in env
[12:18] <nusr> sacarlson: ok thank you
[12:18] <sacarlson> nusr: I must be wrong since I don't think usr/share/matplotlib would normaly be in that path unless you added it
[12:19] <sacarlson> nusr: try echo $PATH
[12:20] <nusr> sacarlson:  i get /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games
[12:21] <sacarlson> nusr: then from that I was wrong
[12:22] <nusr> sacarlson: strange becos i have installed a whole bunch of dependencies but only matplotlib is there..the rest are in /pymodules
[12:23] <sacarlson> nusr: I think there are also other envirnmental veribles like lib but I forget how to list them
[12:24] <nusr> sacarlson: ok no problem. on an unrelated note..rosetta is about to land on a comet...isn't that powered by linux/unix? linux on a comet is a real thing
[12:24] <sacarlson> nusr: ah maybe try printenv
[12:27] <nusr> sacarlson: printenv doesn't show different paths than $PATH..
[12:27] <nusr> sacarlson: i'll check another system where i have a similar set up. see if it is the same. maybe it's just how matplotlib installs
[12:28] <Guest52175> Hi..
[12:29] <sacarlson> nusr: on my system /usr/share is in XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/default:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/:/usr/share/mdm/
[12:30] <nusr> sacarlson: XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/ubuntu:/usr/share/gnome:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/
[12:32] <guest12312> Why can't I chmod 777 to a folder on a usb stick
[12:32] <guest12312> but if i do it on the PC it works fine
[12:32] <sacarlson> nusr: but a bit more research shows that whereis  attempts to locate the desired program  in  a
[12:32] <sacarlson>        list of standard Linux places that are hard coded.  I never knew that
[12:32] <guest12312> the command goes through but nothing changes in the permissions
[12:33] <nusr> sacarlson: cool..good to know
[12:34] <sacarlson> guest12312  the stick is probly formated with fat32 that has no privs in that format type
[12:34] <nusr> http://sci.esa.int/where_is_rosetta/    if anyone cares about mankinds first attempt to land on a comet which is about to happen you can follow it here...linux/unix on a comet
[12:44] <cybrhuman> it should have been plan9.
[12:45] <Xano> Both users "vagrant" and 'www-data" belong to the "www-data" group, but user I cannot access a particular folder over HTTP even though I made it under user "vagrant". How would I about debugging this?
[12:46] <sacarlson> Xano: maybe an aparmor thing?
[12:46] <bewees> hi
[12:46] <daftykins> Xano: looking at the group permissions
[12:46] <Rashid_f> Hello guys
[12:46] <Rashid_f> I have an question
[12:46] <bewees> In this article there's 'aa-complain', but it's not on my system,why? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor#Put_a_profile_in_complain_mode
[12:47] <Rashid_f> which is the best IRC app for ubuntu ?
[12:47] <Xano> daftykins: The permissions for this folder are set to 777 (don't worry, I'm just playing around with a few things, no prod env). I forgot to share that info
[12:47] <Xano> sacarlson: ^^
[12:47] <bewees> Using ubuntu lts 14.04
[12:47] <sacarlson> Xano: what does ^^ mean??  I was right?
[12:48] <bewees> (I want to put a profile in complaint mode
[12:48] <Rashid_f> which is the best IRC app for ubuntu ?
[12:48] <cybrhuman> sacarlson: ^^ is a smiley, a happy smiley.
[12:48] <Rashid_f> what do you use gyes
[12:48] <Xano> sacarlson: Sorry, that meant "look above, I wanted to tell you this as well" :P
[12:48] <Rashid_f> guys
[12:48] <sacarlson> cybrhuman: ok some help but ??
[12:49] <Xano> sacarlson: daftykins Interestingly I set the folder permissions to 777 recursively, but ls -l reveals that only the owner has write permissions :/
[12:49] <cybrhuman> Xano: then you should only use one ^
[12:49] <daftykins> Xano: pretty terrible practice that :)
[12:49] <bewees> Found it in pkg apparmor-utils
[12:49] <daftykins> Xano: oh sorry, didn't see the first highlight
[12:49] <Xano> daftykins: 777? yeah, just wanted to see if it was the permissions or something else. This is usually set to 644
[12:51] <Xano> sacarlson: daftykins ls-l on the "files" folder gives "drwxr-xr-x 1 vagrant www-data    68 Nov 12 12:33 files"
[12:51] <Xano> Repeated attempts to add write rights to other users  don't work
[12:51] <geirha> Xano: What filesystem is it?
[12:51] <Xano> There is also no output at all
[12:52] <Xano> geirha: Let me check. Whatever is the default for 14.04 within a Vagrant box
[12:52] <daftykins> Xano: chmod g+w /path/*
[12:52] <sacarlson> Xano: maybe it's mounted from some nfs that the user doen't exist on?
[12:53] <Xano> sacarlson: It *is* shared through Vagrant/Virtualbox with my host OS (Mac OS 10.9) that doesn't have the vagrant or www-data users
[12:53] <choki> Does someone know if LXDE has a widget for a folder with a dropdown menu?
[12:54] <sacarlson> Xano: ok add those users with the same user number and same privs then and maybe it will work
[12:56] <sacarlson> Xano: oh but you do see 777 on both sides on vagrant and mac?   still sounds like the problem I had with nfs that confused me when two systems don't share the same users
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:58] <Xano> sacarlson: That might very well be the cause. Looking into that now. I can't just edit the host system too (too complex, plus then the box will no longer be portable)
[13:06] <Xano> sacarlson: I think I will just disable sharing for now. There is always scp/SFTP if I need to transfer files. I will mostly be using this for development and I'll push to online repos anyway
[13:08] <sacarlson> Xano: good idea don't dwell on it when there is another path
[13:08] <Xano> sacarlson: I'd still like to figure it out one day, but I have more important things to dor ight now :)
[13:13] <ebel> packages.ubuntu.com isn't working well for me. Not showing me utopic packages, even when I directly access it http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=utopic&keywords=postgresql-9.4
[13:20] <myrkraverk> Hi all.  I was testing rsyslog wrt log injection and discovered that it leaves DEL (0x7f) raw in the log files (it #oct encodes all other ascii control chars).
[13:20] <myrkraverk> Is that something I should report?
[13:26] <ruukasu> I have a cron job in root's crontab, but cron doesn't actually run it
[13:26] <ruukasu> (cron is running)
[13:28] <sacarlson> ruukasu: maybe show us the line you added to roots crontab
[13:30] <ruukasu> schlitzer: 26 8 * * * bash -c "apt-mirror && /var/spool/apt-mirror/var/clean.sh && date +%B\ %d\ %Y\ -\ %H:%M:%S >> /home/administrator/apt-mirror.log"
[13:31] <ruukasu> (changed 00 11 to 26 8 to test)
[13:33] <sacarlson> ruukasu: is the Schlitzer: also on the line??  if so take it out
[13:34] <sacarlson> ruukasu: oh and is bash -c really needed?
[13:34] <ruukasu> sacarlson: you're joking right?
[13:35] <ruukasu> bash -c might not be needed, but I doubt that's the problem
[13:35] <sacarlson> ruukasu: no just didn't really see any schlitzer here so didn't get it until after I sent it
[13:35] <ruukasu> ah
[13:35] <ruukasu> oh
[13:35] <ruukasu> oh I see
[13:35] <ruukasu> sorry about that
[13:37] <sacarlson> ruukasu: with all the escapes and veribles might be better to put it into a script and have cron run the script
[13:39] <S> hi
[13:39] <S> anybuddy there
[13:39] <ObrienDave> no buddies here
[13:39] <BluesKaj> Guest88226, look at the nicklist :)
[13:40] <manandharsrijan> chat
[13:42] <bewees> can i uninstall apparmor compleltly?
[13:42] <hateball> ruukasu: you havent assigned the cronjob a user, unless the user is "bash"
[13:43] <Guest88226> hi bos
[13:43] <Guest88226> m back
[13:43] <ruukasu> hateball: I thought crontabs were per-user, so `sudo crontab -e` would make any jobs I add run as root?
[13:43] <ruukasu> regardless, it turns out bash -c was the problem :|
[13:44] <Guest88226> i need bash for brute force
[13:44] <hateball> ruukasu: ah right. I wrongly assumed "roots crontab" to be /etc/crontab :)
[13:45] <p50402> Hi
[13:45] <p50402> Need of support setting up a functioning wireless configuration on my new Ubuntu Server 14.04 install.
[13:45] <sacarlson> ruukasu: maybe more like this: 0 4     * * *   apt-mirror      /usr/bin/apt-mirror > /var/spool/apt-mirror/var/cron.log
[13:48] <sacarlson> ruukasu: or if added to root crontab:  0 4  * * *   /usr/bin/apt-mirror > /var/spool/apt-mirror/var/cron.log
[13:48] <akiva-thinkpad> ubuntu online summit to start in 12 minutes; come join ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKU86HGm78
[13:53] <Bafila> hello
[13:54] <cbasingertx> hello
[13:54] <leroygu2> hello my friend
[13:55] <nomic> anyone know of pdf reader that'll let me display 2 pages side by side
[13:55] <nomic> or 3
[13:55] <PenguinAnon> Hmm. On boot, ncmpcpp can't connect to mpd, though mpd is running. However, if I pkill mpd, and restart it, ncmpcpp works fine.
[13:55] <jpds> nomic: Well, evince the default can do that.
[13:55] <PenguinAnon> Is the mpd daemon misconfigured?
[13:56] <PenguinAnon> I suppose "mpd daemon" is a little redundant, lol.
[13:56] <nomic> okular
[13:56] <nomic> i just found
[13:56] <nomic> i don't like evince .. has problems with large pdfs ..can't zoom in or out with keyboard
[14:00] <Delta706> is there a package I can install, to convert a MIDI file
[14:02] <chabo> e4dwltozwmoe5f3z.onion
[14:03] <napoli> ciaoo tutti
[14:04] <sbliven> EriC^^: Reflashing the bios was successful, but it didn't fix the boot problem
[14:04] <sbliven> EriC^^: And as a side effect it removed the EFI shell, so I have even worse debugging capabilities now
[14:06] <sbliven> plus it still refuses to reboot intermittently, which makes it really painful to keep going
[14:06] <blackbuntu> hello niggaz!
[14:06] <blackbuntu> did any one tried blackarch before?
[14:07] <PenguinAnon> It is a good pentesting distro, if that's what you need.
[14:08] <Laurenceb> hi
[14:08] <Laurenceb> can anyone tell me how to install amslatex?
[14:08] <cfhowlett> blackbuntu, racial comments will get you kicked.  review the guidelines
[14:08] <PenguinAnon> ^
[14:08] <yecril71pl> I am unable to copy process properties out of gnome-system-monitor
[14:08] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | blackbuntu
[14:08] <blackbuntu> penguinAnin
[14:09] <blackbuntu> blackarch !
[14:09] <cfhowlett> blackbuntu,  this is ubuntu support - not arch.
[14:10] <cfhowlett> !info amslatex
[14:10] <blackbuntu> ubuntu community/1
 exactly
[14:11] <Laurenceb> wtf
[14:11] <Laurenceb> WHAT TO dO?
[14:11] <cfhowlett> lauy
[14:12] <Pici> Laurenceb: texlive-base includes the ams fonts package, if that is what you are looking for.
[14:12] <Laurenceb> i have texlive-latex3
[14:13] <Laurenceb> hmm
[14:13] <Laurenceb> and texlive-base
[14:18] <iirelu> so uh, everything in /etc/udev/ suddenly stopped existing and im not sure why
[14:18] <iirelu> is there any way for me to regenerate all the stuff in it?
[14:22] <p50402> Hello
[14:23] <daftykins> p50402: hi, got a support question?
[14:23] <The> world
[14:23] <the_tricky> hello, guys
[14:24] <p50402> Need help/support with setting up wireless connection on Ubuntu Server 14.04 so that it boots up with the system itself, anyone?
[14:24] <daftykins> p50402: wireless on a server? pretty silly ;)
[14:24] <p50402> *Yes I do.
[14:24] <the_tricky> i have a problem with "ttf-mscorefonts-installer" package
[14:24] <p50402> Maby, but thats the option I have
[14:24] <daftykins> the_tricky: give more detail on one line, what've you tried? what's going wrong?
[14:25] <the_tricky> if it is not installed, every time i boot i get an error message
[14:25] <the_tricky> if it is, all the fonts look weird
[14:25] <kukere_> hi geeks...please i need help in resolving this error Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80] Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates/main nfs-common 1:1.2.0-4ubuntu4.2
[14:25] <the_tricky> they change, i suppose
[14:25] <p50402> I have tried configuring the interfaces so that the server sucessfully connected to my wifi
[14:25] <robairt> anyone have any idea what eruption is?
[14:26] <p50402> I then followed a tutorial so that the network card would start at bootup
[14:26] <p50402> http://askubuntu.com/questions/355939/wifi-connetion-does-not-start-at-boot-at-ubuntu-13-04-server
[14:26] <pbx> robairt, provide lots more context please
[14:27] <robairt> pbx, I think it's a screensaver on a remote session or something. just got in and it was doing 60% of my cpu, but now it's called rubik
[14:27] <the_tricky> anyone to help?
[14:27] <p50402> Maby I should prepare some material on my problem before I ask questions here..
[14:27] <p50402> I'll be back
[14:28] <pbx> p50402, always a great idea.  pastebin links are handy if you have logfiles/errors etc
[14:28] <inerkick> my mobile broadband isn't showing in my ubuntu 14.04 few of the details I already uploaded to launchpad https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/257337 kindly help if you guys faced any issues as such
[14:31] <edong23> [11-12-2014:05:47:38] <tjon> Hi i saw you come online in the channel, do you want to talk?
[14:31] <edong23> wtf?
[14:32] <daftykins> edong23: that user isn't in here, so don't tell us thanks
[14:32] <themonk> can i use python script in DEBIAN/postinst file?
[14:32] <inerkick> hi
[14:33] <inerkick> any ubuntu support team
[14:33] <daftykins> inerkick: just be patient
[14:33] <Xano> Installing mysql-server through CLI shows a 'dialog' with an input for the root password. As I am doing this through Ansible, I want no output at all. I am using apt-get build-dep, but adding -y does not prevent these interactions from happening at all. Any suggestions?
[14:34] <inerkick> hmm daftykins
[14:35] <inerkick> i'm using internet in a shop, and need help so that my modem works, I can't sit all day waiting for help isn't daftykins
[14:36] <daftykins> inerkick: this is a channel of volunteers, i'm sorry that you have this situation but you're not going to get a solution in a timely fashion
[14:37] <iirelu> aha, fixed it by just doing `sudo touch /etc/udev/udev.conf`
[14:37] <operador> operador
[14:37] <operador> exit
[14:39] <daftykins> inerkick: best advice: download and test ubuntu 14.04.1 from a live session (booted from USB) - see if it works there. consider a clean install if so
[14:40] <jamiejackson> hi folks. i've got a service account that i would like to "convert" to an account that can be "su"ed to, so i can test its permissions, etc. how do i do that?
[14:41] <cybrhuman> jamiejackson: have you tried su from root?
[14:41] <k1l_> jamiejackson: sudo su testuseraccount
[14:42] <edong23> daftykins: he was when i whois'd    but sorry about that...
[14:43] <jamiejackson> cybrhuman: yeah, i have tried "su theuser" but it stays on root
[14:43] <daftykins> edong23: if it happens again, report them in #ubuntu-ops :)
[14:44] <mostafa> hi
[14:44] <inerkick> it was working than it stopped yesterday daftykins
[14:45] <daftykins> inerkick: difference being you upgraded between, or?
[14:45] <hollusion> hello, i have a usb flash drive in read only mode (fat32 i guess) how can i make it writeable?
[14:45] <hollusion> there is no hardware switch to unlock it
[14:45] <inerkick> i upgraded to from1 2 to 14.04
[14:46] <k1l_> hollusion: they go to read-only when the system detects a hardware failure
[14:46] <inerkick> i upgraded to from 12.10 to 14.04 and mobile broadband was working fine few days than it stopped daftykins
[14:46] <k1l_> hollusion: see "dmesg" output
[14:46] <daftykins> inerkick: alright, doesn't change my suggestion
[14:47] <inerkick> if i do clean install i lose all my data and i don't have any external drive to store my data now. that's lot of thing to do daftykins
[14:47] <the_tricky> any help with "ttf-mscorefonts-installer" package?
[14:47] <inerkick> thanks for suggestion though daftykins
[14:47] <daftykins> inerkick: no you don't lose all your data
[14:47] <hollusion> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/1HqRqtEy
[14:47] <inerkick> data in sense of few apps
[14:47] <inerkick> skype pidgin and many more i guess
[14:47] <cybrhuman> jamiejackson: odd, should work. did you try k1l_'s suggestion?
[14:47] <daftykins> inerkick: plus i'm suggesting to just test it with 14.04.1 first :) you don't have to commit to reinstall, you're just checking whether it even does work in 14.04
[14:48] <inerkick> will try though
[14:48] <anonymous_> hi
[14:48] <Jky> hi, how do I find out if I have a processor suitable to use intel p-state?
[14:48] <inerkick> if it working? daftykins
[14:48] <v0lksman> I have a 12.10 system that I would like to upgrade...it's cli...I run do-release-upgrade and I get an error saying it can't calculate the upgrade.  How do I proceed?
[14:48] <daftykins> inerkick: cross that bridge when you come to it.
[14:48] <jamiejackson> cybrhuman: same deal. just stays on root, doesn't switch
[14:49] <inerkick> what you mean daftykins explain
[14:49] <daftykins> inerkick: i mean go test it before asking every other question :P
[14:49] <cybrhuman> odd, what does the user's line in /etc/passwd say?
[14:49] <hollusion> k1l_: that means the drive is broken and i can throw it away?
[14:49] <k1l_> hollusion: try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/101637/usb-turn-write-protection-off
[14:50] <cybrhuman> jamiejackson: odd, what does the user's line in /etc/passwd say?
[14:50] <inerkick> i don't get cross that bridge means so should understand it
[14:50] <mesaboogie1> heya, does anyone want to help me to test my skype?
[14:50] <jamiejackson> cybrhuman: railo:x:495:491::/opt/railo:/bin/false
[14:50] <daftykins> inerkick: it's a phrase. i'm sorry i don't teach english
[14:50] <k1l_> jamiejackson: its set to bin/false so no login
[14:50] <cybrhuman> jamiejackson: there is the problem, its login shell is set to /bin/false
[14:51] <inerkick> sure
[14:51] <inerkick> thanks
[14:51] <cybrhuman> sudo chsh railo
[14:51] <cybrhuman> jamiejackson:  sudo chsh railo
[14:51] <jamiejackson> cybrhuman: how to convert it (at least temporarily)? change to /bin/bash?
[14:52] <cybrhuman> !chsh
[14:52] <cybrhuman> bah, ubottu never know anything I ask about.
[14:53] <hollusion> k1l_: does this mean that the data on it can not be trusted to be complete?
[14:53] <k1l_> hollusion: can you rephrase?
[14:53] <hollusion> i.e. data got corrupted
[14:54] <hollusion> complete as in "not corrupted data"
[14:54] <hollusion> *non corrupt, whatever
[14:54] <k1l_> i dont know. when a drive is that flaky i would not bet on that
[14:56] <smallbig> may I discuss something not ubuntu, but still linux? I really got no idea how to fix it
[14:56] <k1l_> smallbig: ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:56] <smallbig> ok
[14:56] <smallbig> thanks!
[14:59] <n18106> hi.i'm 35 yo from india
[15:00] <daftykins> n18106: that's lovely, but this is a support channel
[15:00] <jamiejackson> cybrhuman: thx. changed it to /bin/bash, and it seems to have worked
[15:01] <hollusion> can you suggest a software to create very very simple gantt charts?
[15:01] <hollusion> for charting processes and their calc times
[15:01] <cybrhuman> jamiejackson: :) probably a good idea to reset it after testing btw.
[15:07] <nicksloan> is there a way to tell ubuntu not to create a cluster on postgres installation? I already have one created and stored on an EBS volume that I am attaching.
[15:09] <tsa> which works best, VNC or XRDP for remote login to Ubuntu virtual machines?
[15:09] <jamiejackson> cybrhuman: i'm working in a vm that i created to emulate the real server, so i'm nice and sandboxed, anyway
[15:09] <Guest17649> Hi guys.
[15:10] <daftykins> Guest17649: got a support question?
[15:10] <k1l_> jamiejackson: you dont need to change to that user to be able to run programs/commands as that user
[15:10] <k1l_> sudo -u USER command       can be used
[15:11] <Soothsayer> Are there any tools with a web-based interface to Manage crons? Looking for recommendations.
[15:11] <TvL2386> Soothsayer, isn't webmin able to do that? Maybe a bit overkill though...
[15:11] <Soothsayer> TvL2386: I have webmin installed in the server.. but honestly its painful
[15:11] <k1l_> dont run webmin :/
[15:12] <Soothsayer> in the table view it truncates the command names.. so i can’t even figure out anymore which cron is for what
[15:12] <daftykins> !webmin
[15:12] <TvL2386> Soothsayer, yeah I think it's overkill and I really don't like it either
[15:12] <daftykins> Soothsayer: ^
[15:12] <k1l_> it will ruin your serverconfigs. therefore it got kicked out of debian and ubuntu repos
[15:12] <UbuntuServer> Hello, someone want to help me setting my Ubuntu Server 14.04 up?
[15:12] <Soothsayer> i don’t use webmin for package management.. just for viewing running processes, managing IP tables and in case of quick visual debugging
[15:12] <daftykins> UbuntuServer: you need to ask a more specific question.
[15:12] <daftykins> Soothsayer: i think you misunderstand the above bot message
[15:13] <k1l_> Soothsayer: it ruins the configfiles there too.
[15:13] <Soothsayer> UbuntuServer: asl ?
[15:13] <jamiejackson> good to know k1l_ , thanks
[15:13] <UbuntuServer> I'm starting from the beggining, @ installation meny atm.
[15:13] <Soothsayer> daftykins: i got it, nevermind, my question is not about webmin.
[15:13] <UbuntuServer> menu*
[15:13] <UbuntuServer> 24, male, Sweden
[15:14] <Soothsayer> UbuntuServer: ok, I was really just joking around :P
[15:14] <UbuntuServer> Hah.
[15:14] <Niels___> Hi My Ubuntu corrupted after upgrading 14.04 to 14.10. A controller is missing and some broken pipes. How can I fix this?
[15:14] <daftykins> UbuntuServer: what's this system for? what kind of hardware is it going on?
[15:16] <UbuntuServer> I'm setting up this system so I hopefully can run my own web-server with some sort of ecommerce sollution on it. LAMP etc.
[15:16] <s00pcan> UbuntuServer: well you can be more than hopeful about it
[15:16] <UbuntuServer> I have tried on my own following tutorials several times with something not working everytime and now wanted to try this approach.
[15:17] <sourcerer> Hello everyone. I've some troubles with my laptop. It seems that cpu frequency is freezed at 756 MHz (and that's pity because it's Core i7 2.7GHz). I'm using ubuntu 14.04; I can't change CPU frequency or governor neither with indicator-cpufreq, nor with cpufreq-set. cat /proc/cpuinfo says "756.000 MHz". cpufreq-info says "current policy: frequency should be within 756 MHz and 756 MHz." How to change this?
[15:17] <linocisco> ubuntu sucks
[15:17] <UbuntuServer> No it does not.
[15:18] <daftykins> sourcerer: open a terminal and run: watch -n 0.1 'cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i mhz'
[15:18] <linocisco> I tried to solve my printer problem with ubuntu latest desktop 64bit. not fixed yet
[15:18] <daftykins> sourcerer: definitely no value fluctuations whilst you use the system?
[15:19] <sourcerer> daftykins: nope, even when i do make -j 4 and have 100% cpu load
[15:19] <k1l_> linocisco: then tell your printer manufacturer they must support linux.
[15:19] <linocisco> now I left that printer away. in detail, ubuntu 64 bit sucks as there is no always 64 bit drivers from vendors
[15:19] <Niels___> Since upgrade to 14.10 I 'm unable to update...
[15:19] <UbuntuServer> What is an appropriate hostname when setting up and Ubuntu Server on my LAN?
[15:19] <linocisco> most support only 32bit
[15:19] <daftykins> sourcerer: same on a live session booted from USB?
[15:19] <s00pcan> my hp printer works alright with linux
[15:19] <k1l_> linocisco: ubuntu is multiarch.
[15:19] <daftykins> linocisco: this is true of Windows too. pro tip: showing attitude in here won't make anyone want to help you.
[15:19] <k1l_> linocisco: so before you make a fool of yourself just ranting in here you can either get technical support or leave
[15:20] <linocisco> i mean i followed all documentation on ubuntu website for that damn cannon printer and nothing helped me
[15:20] <sourcerer> daftykins: not sure, and can't check yet, sorry :( But I suppose this thing worked a month ago or so
[15:21] <jamiejackson> next question: what's the magic combo to allow group write permission in a (cifs) mount? i have the uid and (a different) gid set in the fstab, but that's not enough, apparently. also the mount point has the proper 775 permissions before mounting, but it turns to 755 after mounting.
[15:21] <daftykins> sourcerer: you could go through your older kernels in case something's a little odd.
[15:21] <sourcerer> daftykins: hmm, sounds like a good idea, thank you
[15:23] <Niels___> Where should I start to fix upgrade errors?
[15:23] <daftykins> Niels___: with removing your PPAs if you didn't
[15:23] <daftykins> Niels___: or with showing us the errors! :D
[15:24] <Niels___> Errors appears while starting up. Can I record them or find them in a log file?
[15:25] <daftykins> Niels___: go nuts with /var/log/
[15:25] <MagicSpud> hello I need help because I think I screwed things up with alacarte
[15:25] <daftykins> MagicSpud: ask a fully detailed question on one line
[15:25] <Niels___> Should I post it :-P
[15:25] <MagicSpud> I was trying to make new shortcuts and started changing them
[15:26] <MagicSpud> via /home/me/.local/share/applications
[15:26] <anang> Hi
[15:26] <MagicSpud> the point is now it is not adding new shortcuts anymore
[15:26] <daftykins> Niels___: it's a folder with lots of log files, you won't be able to pastebin them all ;)
[15:26] <onla> anyone know why on my ubuntu and firefox livestream stream starts buffering and stops playing after some 15 seconds, e.g. this video http://new.livestream.com/esa/cometlanding
[15:26] <onla> on chrome they work
[15:27] <jamiejackson> i think it's umask i'm looking for, so i'm reading about that now.
[15:27] <MagicSpud> is it permitted to change alacarte-made.desktop file name?
[15:27] <mIckeyMaNiky> hello i have a nvidia gt 640 & a sharp aquos 4k.  i cant get ubutnu 14.10 64-bit to display at 4k resolution. anyone know how
[15:28] <sourcerer> daftykins: it's magic. with older kernel it says "current policy: frequency should be within 2.70 GHz and 2.70 GHz. ". Fuuun
[15:28] <daftykins> sourcerer: so then it's locked to the max? :)
[15:28] <Niels___> So I have to pick which log file when I am interested in what happens during starting up ubuntu?
[15:28] <sourcerer> daftykins: eyep :(
[15:29] <sourcerer> daftykins: make -j 4 is faaar better on max frequency though :D
[15:29] <MagicSpud> daftykins, is it allowed to change alacarte-made.desktop files?
[15:29] <daftykins> MagicSpud: i don't have a clue about whatever that software is, nor desktop issues
[15:29] <MagicSpud> daftykins,  I changed from alacarte-made-5.desktop to myapp.desktop
[15:30] <eeb3> Hello, I have a failing HD, which I've tried to used Clonezilla (But ended up Having a Kernal Panic), and tried to use Knoppix, but I keep getting an error of: ._.com.apple.timemachine.donotpresent has invalid checksum if I try to mount the drive. At this point not sure what to try.
[15:30] <MagicSpud> daftykins,  ubuntu 14.04 alacarte main menu edit program
[15:30] <MDTech[ZNC]> helo
[15:31] <daftykins> MagicSpud: yeah, telling me more details isn't going to make me an ubuntu desktop user i'm afraid :)
[15:31] <MagicSpud> lol
[15:33] <pbx> eeb3, i'd try fixing the drive with the vendor (Apple) tools
[15:33] <pbx> i.e. Disk Utility, repair volume
[15:33] <MagicSpud> anyway I think I found the solution daftykins : http://askubuntu.com/questions/430230/gnome-menu-broken
[15:33] <eeb3> tried that, gave me 'failed to fix'
[15:33] <daftykins> please stop highlighting me :(
[15:34] <pbx> eeb3, you may be down to Disk Warrior or reformat then.  no ubuntu piece to this that i see though
[15:35] <jamiejackson> what umask (or dmask/fmask) would i need to use in an fstab entry to yield 775 directory and 664 file permissions?
[15:36] <tsa> Does VNC or XRDP work best for remotely connecting to a Ubuntu 12.04 virtual machine?
[15:38] <Niels___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8966411/ here are some boot repair data
[15:39] <qwebirc6949> {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:1111: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov' {standard input}:1137: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov' {standard input}:2157: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov' {standard input}:2159: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov' {standard input}:2161: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov' {standard input}:2163: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `
[15:39] <qwebirc6949> anyone can help??
[15:39] <qwebirc6949> make[1]: *** [arch/x86_64/kernel/process.o] Error 1 make: *** [arch/x86_64/kernel] Error 2
[15:40] <k1l_> qwebirc6949: what ubuntu is that? what are you tryiing to do? ....
[15:40] <PenguinAnon> qewbirc6949 What are you doing with the Arch kernel?
[15:40] <PenguinAnon> Also, use pastebin.
[15:40] <daftykins> qwebirc6949: by any chance are you doing some course involving patching mackill into something? :P
[15:40] <qwebirc6949> kll: i got these error when i compile the kernel 2.6.11
[15:43] <rberg_> lol thats system architecture, not Arch the distro.
[15:43] <Niels___> How do I remove PPA stuff?
[15:43] <daftykins> !ppa-purge | Niels___
[15:43] <PenguinAnon> rberg_ : You're 100% right. I haven't had enough coffee -__-
[15:43] <k1l_> Niels___: use ppa-purge
[15:44] <pbx> is there a way to bring all of an application's windows forward in the stack? i.e. so if i close one the next window is another window from that app?
[15:44] <pbx> (unity fwiw)
[15:45] <Laibsch> Which one is the "official" bluetooth applet in Trusty? blueman?  I currently have two applets showing and want to get rid of one.
[15:45] <fffggg> Who you ask?
[15:45] <fffggg> ask google
[15:45] <fffggg> here is not anybot to answer to all questions
[15:45] <nicksloan> should I expect ubuntu to always use the same uid and gid for the postgres user and group?
[15:45] <k1l_> !google | fffggg
[15:46] <Laibsch> fffggg: go home
[15:46] <nicksloan> or does it do a next available sort of thing?
[15:46] <fffggg> iam angry becouse i am windows user
[15:46] <Laibsch> your problem
[15:46] <Pici> nicksloan: It should be using the next available.
[15:46] <Laibsch> thanks, k1l
[15:47] <nicksloan> Pici: interesting
[15:47] <fffggg> so annoying peoples answer anything they want like here is someone who must answer
[15:48] <k1l_> Laibsch: i think bluez is the one used as standard. but i am not sure so far
[15:48] <nicksloan> so if my postgres data directory may be detached and reattached to a different installation, I probably ought to create the postgres user and group myself with known IDs
[15:48] <k1l_> fffggg: if you want to stay in here behave according to the guidelines
[15:48] <k1l_> !guidelines > fffggg
[15:49] <fffggg> They must say Hello, in first of asking somethinG
[15:49] <fffggg> ;))
[15:49] <k1l_> Laibsch: for me ps ax shows bluetiithd and indicator-bluetooth
[15:50] <Niels___> How can I get a list with PPA-names?
[15:51] <k1l_> Niels___: "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[15:52] <Laibsch> k1l_: blueman is in universe, so I guess that is not the default
[15:56] <sharp4k> how can i get 4k resolution with nvidia cards?
[15:56] <olspookishmagus> which is this font? http://xubuntu.org/wp-content/themes/xubuntu-theme/xubuntu-fourteen/images/xubuntu-logo.png
[15:56] <sharp4k> anyone know?
[15:56] <daftykins> sharp4k: what card did you say you had again? what cable type is it connected by?
[15:56] <sharp4k> nvidia geforce 640 hdmi cable daftykins
[15:57] <daftykins> sharp4k: HDMI can't carry 4k
[15:57] <sharp4k> we've been doing it with windows
[15:57] <daftykins> at least not in the version that that card will have
[15:57] <daftykins> is it interlaced in Windows?
[15:58] <sharp4k> not sure, might be
[15:58] <olspookishmagus> can displayport support 4k?
[15:58] <daftykins> if it's the right version, sure
[15:58] <sharp4k> so if i interlaced it in ubuntu could i push out 4k?
[15:58] <lancelot_of> hi there
[15:59] <lancelot_of> i'm trying to use skype, but i cannot see anything in video, even if my camera works, indeed who i talk to can see me. With any other video application camera works fine. Any hint/suggestion?
[15:59] <daftykins> sharp4k: possibly. go check that's what's actually happening first
[15:59] <sharp4k> ok let me check brb
[16:05] <Junka> hello, can someone a radio station of electro genre of rhythmbox?
[16:05] <Junka> tell me*
[16:05] <Junka> its one of the defaults
[16:10] <White_Cat> hi
[16:10] <White_Cat> I created a user by using sudo adduser --system --home=/opt/odoo --group odoo
[16:10] <daftykins> ok...
[16:10] <White_Cat> I want to convert that user to a regular unix user, can I do that without deleting it?
[16:10] <White_Cat> it should retain the same home location
[16:11] <pbx> White_Cat, what do you mean by "regular unix user"?
[16:11] <Junka> hello, can someone tell me a radio station of electro genre of rhythmbox?
[16:12] <daftykins> Junka: your question doesn't actually make sense
[16:13] <daftykins> nor is it seemingly ubuntu support 0o
[16:13] <afidegnum> hello good morning all,
[16:13] <afidegnum> please I am stick and stuck
[16:14] <afidegnum> ubuntu is not allowing flash and microphone and camera input
[16:14] <Junka> daftykins, well i need help
[16:14] <daftykins> Junka: right, in finding an internet radio station to *PLAY* in rhythmbox? or?
[16:15] <Junka> daftykins, i lost my radio stations, its ok but i want that one i like
[16:15] <Junka> its not that hard to answer
[16:15] <daftykins> Junka: it is because your english doesn't make sense
[16:16] <Junka> i need the name of a radio station of the app rhythmbox
[16:16] <Junka> it starts with the letter G iirc
[16:16] <Junka> its genre is electro
[16:16] <pbx> Junka, is it here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/331751/rhythmbox-default-radio-stations-missing
[16:17] <Junka> pbx, i have already seen that. It's not, the list got updated in recent versions
[16:18] <pbx> Junka, you can dig here then https://git.gnome.org/browse/rhythmbox/tree/
[16:18] <pbx> open source FTW
[16:19] <Junka> pbx, lol thanks
[16:24] <MagicSpud> is there a ubuntu desktop IRC channel?
[16:24] <daftykins> this is it
[16:24] <daftykins> you just have to ask the channel for someone that knows
[16:24] <White_Cat> pbx well basically it doesnt work with WinSCP
[16:24] <White_Cat> it doesnt let me
[16:25] <sdd> hi! boost package seems to be broken in ubuntu 14.04 repo
[16:25] <sdd> posted bug to boost guys and q @ askubuntu
[16:26] <sdd> seems that http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/amd64/libboost1.55-all-dev/download package is all you can get if not to build boost from source
[16:26] <Junka> pbx, i dont seem to find an appropriate file with the list
[16:26] <sdd> anybody alive? )
[16:28] <Pici> sdd: I'm not sure I understand the question.
[16:29] <Junka> pbx, nvm found it. Ty
[16:30] <Pici> sdd: libboost1.55-all-dev is a metapackage, it doesn't actually provide any files itself, ut it depends on the packages that do.
[16:31] <Vladimirski_> Not sure if this is correct channel but, I installed ubuntu on a windows 7 machine but now I can't boot win 7, I want to dual boot but it doesn't seem to work. No choosing windows is appearing, just booting directly into ubuntu
[16:31] <EriC^^> Vladimirski_: try to update-grub
[16:32] <Vladimirski_> EriC^^: okey I'll try!=) thanks
[16:32] <Vladimirski_> just run update-grub command ?
[16:32] <EriC^^> yes try it, see if it picks up the windows install ( Found windows.... on /dev/sd.. )
[16:32] <EriC^^> if it doesn't you can manually add an entry to grub
[16:33] <EriC^^> Vladimirski_: you need sudo btw, sudo update-grub
[16:33] <Vladimirski_> yep=)
[16:34] <fabienne___> Is there some particular optimization package ubuntu uses for font rendering? At least in comparison to my previous slackware install fonts in especially firefox appear much more crisp
[16:36] <SupaYoshi> anyone a pro with alsa and midi? Im trying to get sound working in the majority of my games under dosbox
[16:36] <SupaYoshi> But whatever I change or do, the sound wont work.
[16:37] <SupaYoshi> I have done, pmidi -l which gives me port 14:0 o Mid Through port 0
[16:37] <SupaYoshi> I put that in dosbox config, but it wont help me.
[16:44] <BluesKaj> SupaYoshi, not a pro but I have some alsa and audio knowledge, however how it runs or relates to dosbox is another matter
[16:45] <SupaYoshi> i am here now :D hehe http://macilatthefront.blogspot.nl/2010/05/timidity-and-dosbox-in-ubuntu-1004.html
[16:45] <SupaYoshi> So ill try that
[16:46] <miistx> salve
[16:46] <BluesKaj> ok
[16:53] <skinux> Is there a tool that will search all PDF documents in a specific directory for a specified text?
[16:56] <pbx> skinux, adobe reader will do that i think
[16:56] <skinux> I'm not using Windows. However, I'll check if FoxIt Reader will do it actually.
[16:59] <Nickname123> Hello.  I've suddenly started getting errors like the following when building a docker image using ubuntu 12.04.  Is there an outage or what can I do? "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssl/libssl-doc_1.0.1-4ubuntu5.17_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]"
[16:59] <jpds> Nickname123: sudo apt-get update
[16:59] <Nickname123> That is the first run command of the dockerfile
[17:03] <tiX> Hey everyone
[17:03] <tiX> Can I get some help?
[17:04] <nully> tiX: its irc. don't ask to ask, just ask.
[17:04] <tiX> nully: thanks
[17:05] <tiX> I'm trying to boot from the liveCD, but I keep getting: http://xt3.me/4p3Z
[17:05] <skinux> Well, Foxit Reader can search for text, but you have to open and search each document seperately.
[17:09] <josephmurray> I am trying to install 14.04 on a box with a RAID-10 1TB drive and a RAID-1 500GB drive. I chose guided creation of full disk for 1TB drive, but can’t install the GRUB boot loader to the master boot record for some reason. Error: Install the GRUB boot loader on a hard disk Unable to install GRUB in /dev/md124p1
[17:09] <squinty> tiX:  Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com/    which doesn't have the dating/quiz advertisments that your link seems to be fond of
[17:09] <josephmurray> I have partition info, but not sure what would help.
[17:10] <josephmurray> both raids are full disk with LVM
[17:10] <josephmurray> Do I need to create a partition that is not LVM for boot purposes?
[17:26] <Poyraz76_> Have you read?   http://muchweb.me/systemd-nsa-attempt/
[17:27] <daftykins> sigh.
[17:28] <pbx> awesome bait for the ideological war
[17:28] <lolgarth> hi guys, is there a way to openn a gui folder from terminal?
[17:28] <lolgarth> in mac it's open .
[17:28] <lolgarth> . refers to the current directory
[17:28] <daftykins> nautilus . ?
[17:28] <daftykins> :>
[17:28] <lolgarth> and open opens a new window
[17:29] <lolgarth> wow sweet! thank you so much :)
[17:29] <daftykins> lol
[17:29] <magic_1> hi all
[17:29] <daftykins> i made that up :(
[17:29] <daftykins> hi.
[17:30] <magic_1> just a quick question, when doing do-release-upgrade do you lose your ip address config
[17:30] <daftykins> is it statically defined in your interfaces file?
[17:30] <magic_1> yea
[17:30] <magic_1> and i did select it to not change anything in dhcp
[17:32] <daftykins> magic_1: 'not change anything in DHCP' ? that doesn't make any sense
[17:32] <magic_1> the upgrade asked me if i wanted to upgrade the dhcp client
[17:32] <magic_1> i selected it to not change
[17:33] <daftykins> magic_1: there's no point in doing that.
[17:34] <ansivirus> you should upgrade the dhcp client. The upgrade should not overwrite any configuration files you have for it. but to be on the safe side you might want to just cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces_pre_upgrade
[17:34] <viejotren> Hi, is there a way to downgrade just the kernel?
[17:34] <magic_1> yea i know that, i am working remotely though
[17:34] <EriC^^> viejotren: you can remove it if you want
[17:34] <magic_1> should have done that
[17:34] <daftykins> magic_1: it won't get called if interfaces is set static :)
[17:34] <EriC^^> viejotren: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-<kernel>
[17:35] <magic_1> daftykins, totally understand, just want to make sure if it would in anyway affect it, for some reason after the reboot i am unable to ping the machine
[17:35] <EriC^^> viejotren: or change the default kernel in grub
[17:35] <viejotren> EriC, and after a reboot what kernel will be in use?
[17:35] <magic_1> or remotely login
[17:35] <sparr> I'm on ubuntu 14.04 and getting kernel lockups on btrfs-flush_del similar to this bug report: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63571
[17:35] <EriC^^> viejotren: yes, it'd be better to change the default one in grub though
[17:35] <EriC^^> viejotren: so you can still dist-upgrade
[17:36] <sparr> but that bug was apparently fixed in kernel 3.13
[17:36] <viejotren> EriC I got it, one more, is there any way to display what kernels version are available on my system?
[17:36] <EriC^^> viejotren: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[17:37] <EriC^^> viejotren: to see what's in grub.cfg type grep vmlinuz /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[17:38] <magic_1> daftykins, i now get no route to host, which makes me think the box has lost its ip config
[17:38] <SupaYoshi> nope
[17:38] <SupaYoshi> dosbox no luck
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> viejotren: dpkg -l | grep linux-image | grep -v extra | awk {'print $2'}     is a bit nicer :)
[17:38] <daftykins> magic_1: on your local machine? where is this box?
[17:38] <ansivirus> magic_1, if it was DHCP there is the possibility it lost its lease and got a new IP on reboot
[17:39] <daftykins> ansivirus: please don't reply when you won't even scroll up
[17:39] <daftykins> it's not DHCP, that was the entire first point
[17:39] <magic_1> daynaskully, the machine is back at the office
[17:39] <magic_1> which means i might need to travel there
[17:40] <magic_1> ansivirus, thanks appreciate the input
[17:40] <daftykins> magic_1: not got the access to remote in and check for DHCP leases or anything else?
[17:40] <viejotren> EriC^^ cool, I got it, thanks
[17:40] <magic_1> i dont have access to the dhcp server, will call and see if anyone is there to check
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> magic_1: you could set a static IP in the subnet, set it at the top end and ping to make sure the IP isnt in use. Could cause issues on the LAN if a upe IP is given out but will help your problem
[17:42] <magic_1> ActionParsnip, will check with the guys if they can get that configured
[17:46] <ansivirus> daftykins, if it's not DHCP then why would he look for DHCP leases? seems to me like there are different conversations going on and I thought I did scroll up enough... my bad
[17:46] <neutralizer> can you tell me why UFW is blocking http://paste.ubuntu.com/8968309/ even though I have added rule http://paste.ubuntu.com/8968296/ and it was working but until now
[17:48] <daftykins> ansivirus: in the weird case that it broke
[17:49] <ansivirus> right on
[17:50] <gonyere> hi there, i'm running ubuntu 14.04 on a thinkpad l540 and the webcam has mysteriously stopped working... any suggestions?
[17:51] <neutralizer> ah I found it
[17:51] <daftykins> gonyere: power off, battery + mains out... then boot again? check lsusb?
[17:51] <gonyere> hi there, i'm running ubuntu 14.04 on a thinkpad l540 and the webcam has mysteriously stopped working... any suggestions?
[17:51] <gonyere> sorry for the double post
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> gonyere: if you run cheese, do you see yourself?
[17:52] <scorpion> hi
[17:54] <poli> I need to mount a partition on a directory that will be mounted at login by cryptfs. Is there a way to do that with the usual fstab mount, or do I need to setup some sort of script, otherwise when the ecrypt gets mounted, it will take over the previously mounted dire.
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> poli: I dont use encrypted file systems but I found this https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/ecryptfs.html
[18:03] <Simplar> Can you advise me a linux system which will fully be compatible with a notebook asus-x550cv?
[18:04] <EriC^^> !compatible | Simplar
[18:04] <EriC^^> !hardware | Simplar
[18:05] <EriC^^> Simplar: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[18:06] <sparr> I rebooted one of my hosts and now it has no network connectivity. Not just its VMs, but I can't ssh in or out of the host either.
[18:06] <Simplar> ok
[18:06] <Simplar> how to discover the hardware of my PC using ubuntu?
[18:06] <EriC^^> sudo lshw
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Simplar: without knowing the guts we won't know
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Simplar: its like saying "Is Windows fully compatible with my Asus P1-AH2 pundit?"
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Simplar: you can install lshw-gtk and get a pretty GUI to lshw :)
[18:08] <Simplar> ActionParsnip, thanks :)
[18:09] <Guest85064> Can anyone help online with grub
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Simplar: to answer my own question, it's not :).
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Guest85064: ask and see
[18:10] <squinty> Simplar:  https://code.google.com/p/inxi/   my personal choice.  you can install if from repo's
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> !info inxi
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> squinty: ^
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> nice
[18:13] <Simplar> squinty: sec I will go get the info of my hardware
[18:17] <Simplar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8968873/
[18:17] <Simplar> Here it is!
[18:17] <Simplar> The hardware!
[18:18] <shantyman> While communing with my inner dummy, I pulled an SD card without unmounting. Nothing can read it now: master boot record missing. Tried gpart on GParted with no luck. What software can retrieve jpeg files from SD card?
[18:20] <coderman1> is there a place i can get 14.10 server full dvd so i dont need to be on the internet to install it
[18:20] <xangua> ubuntu.com
[18:20] <Guest85064> help with grub - anone ?y
[18:20] <coderman1> that requires internet connectivity
[18:21] <coderman1> if you are referring to the download think here http://www.ubuntu.com/server
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Simplar: looks pretty bog standard gubbins
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Guest85064: ask and see
[18:21] <Guest85064> bye
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Simplar: you'll need nvidia-prime to support the Optimus video card you have
[18:22] <lolbote> i'm trying to install nvidia drivers and i'm having a hard time oding ti
[18:22] <lolbote> doing it*
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> lolbote: is itan optimus thing?
[18:22] <lolbote> it says that i'm running x server
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> *it an
[18:23] <lolbote> i tried everything i could to kill it
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> lolbote: use the packaged drivers, dont use the file from nvidia
[18:23] <lolbote> i don't know what i'm doing wrong :****(
[18:23] <lolbote> okay, i will use the packaged drivers
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> lolbote: what is the output of:   sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a     use a pastebin like http://pastie.org to host the text
[18:25] <lolbote> http://pastie.org/9714978
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia-prime
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> gah
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> i hate that optimus hack
[18:26] <lolbote> what is the optimus hack?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> lolbote: i just think its a poor solution
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> lolbote: may help http://xmodulo.com/install-configure-nvidia-optimus-driver-ubuntu.html
[18:28] <lolbote> my laptop gets about 2 hours of battery life :P
[18:28] <lolbote> thank you for that link
[18:29] <gr33n7007h> Anyone use Vuze?
[18:29] <joesmith> does anyone know any good tools to download all emails via either imap/pop3 and NOT delete them locally when they are deleted on the server?
[18:30] <Wes-> instead of the X session/login manager, is there a good way to make Ubuntu simply kick off a window manager and an application?
[18:30] <lolbote> so if this breaks x11 i have to reinstall right?
[18:30] <gr33n7007h> if so, is there an option somewhere to download to a specific directory?
[18:31] <lolbote> gr33n7007h: that should be in the settings of vuze
[18:31] <lolbote> check the preferences
[18:31] <lolbote> Wes-: i wish i could help you
[18:31] <ffabiorj> anybody help me
[18:31] <ffabiorj> when used to command apt-get update
[18:31] <ffabiorj> currently this error
[18:31] <ffabiorj> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/mirror.globo.com_ubuntu_archive_dists_trusty-backports_universe_source_Sources.IndexDiff - open (2: No such file or directory)
[18:31] <gr33n7007h> lolbote, I've looked through all preferences and can't find it :(
[18:32] <lolbote> gr33n7007h: https://wiki.vuze.com/w/Default_directory_for_downloaded_files
[18:32] <Wes-> joesmith: I used a tool ~10 years ago that could do this. It was a command-line thing. Damned if I can remember the name now.
[18:32] <gr33n7007h> lolbote, thanks
[18:33] <ragnarock> hi, i m using asus with nvidia 720m geforce and ubuntu 14.10 seems to hang a lot,is there any soln.?
[18:33] <Wes-> joesmith: it might have been fetchmail
[18:34] <lolbote> gr33n7007h: np
[18:34] <DMRadford> ragnarock, which driver version are you using? Official from nVidia or from the repos?
[18:34] <joesmith> Wes-: yeah there seems to be a lot of them. the imap ones don't seem to have a way to disable deleting local messages, and the pop ones require you manually configure the folders
[18:34] <Wes-> joesmith: your imap comment doesn't completely make sense -- but POP3 does not have a concept of folders  so anything foldery with POP3 is going to be a kludge
[18:35] <joesmith> Wes-: what i mean with imap is that i dont want it to synchronize deleted mails on the local backup. so if mails are deleted on the server, do NOT delete them locally
[18:35] <Steve_Jobs> MS guys are making a big stink about .net being open-sourced
[18:35] <ragnarock> DMRadford: I used this ppa http://ppa.launchpad.net/mamarley/nvidia/ubuntu
[18:36] <ragnarock> it's official i guess...
[18:36] <DMRadford> ragnarock, try the one from the standard repos
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> ffabiorj:  wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[18:37] <squinty> ffabiorj: http://mirror.globo.com/ubuntu/archive/dists/trusty-backports/universe/source/  seems to be accessible here   maybe try again (or try changing servers in Software /Updates) to see that clears the problem
[18:38] <ragnarock> DMRadford:k fine....thanks for the help and ur time,i vl see what can i do :)
[18:39] <ffabiorj> @ActionParsnip thanks
[18:39] <DMRadford> I'm running an Amazon EC2 instance with Ubuntu and I'm trying to get a java program to start automatically. I've put startup.sh in /etc/init.d, chmod +x startup.sh, update-rc.d startup.sh defaults. Still no dice. startup.sh contents: #!/bin/bash/ -e     java -jar loki.jar ./Blender/blender
[18:40] <DMRadford> ragnarock, I've had troubles with nvidia drivers before. Just keep trying different ones until you find one that works with your gpu I guess :/
[18:41] <FilthyMacNasty> hi guys, is there a way to recover a directory that was in a mv and the drive ran out of space?
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> DMRadford: does it need to run as root?
[18:41] <nonamae> how can i run a script every time when my pc is getting back from suspend?
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> DMRadford: ./Blender/blender   wont work in a script like that, you need to tell it the location of the foder it is in
[18:41] <nonamae> i mean how to automatize it
[18:42] <DMRadford> ActionParsnip, no it shouldn't. If I SSH into the instance, I run the program with "java -jar loki.jar ./Blender/blender"
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> DMRadford: you may run that as your user, as you are already in a relevant folder but the startup script doesnt have that
[18:42] <nusr> where is the mysql password located on ubuntu? i tried the .pid but it's not there
[18:42] <rberg_> DMRadford: are you sure you want the trailing / here? #!/bin/bash/ -e
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> DMRadford: if you add things to the startup like that then it wil run as root
[18:42] <FilthyMacNasty> nusr: the mysql password is stored within the database
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> DMRadford: you will need to add a 'cd' command to change to the directory containing the file, then use 'su' to run the command as your user
[18:43] <DMRadford> Oh, ok. so ./Blender/blender should be /etc/ubuntu/Blender/blender?
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> DMRadford: what is the output of: file /etc/ubuntu/Blender/blender
[18:43] <nusr> FilthyMacNasty: thanks. i lost my password and tried following some tutorials online but can't get back in.
[18:43] <DMRadford> ActionParsnip, it's a program. loki.jar needs to know where blender is located
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> nusr: psychocat has a guide about password reset in root recovery console
[18:44] <hujo> nusr, try skip_external_locking, reset your password locally, re-enable it, done
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> DMRadford: then you need to tell it the _exact_ location, from /
[18:44] <DMRadford> rberg, I'm not sure? I'm new to command line bash scripting so I'm just punching in what google says should work...
[18:44] <azyr> ubuntu has built in power management for laptops these days?
[18:45] <rberg_> DMRadford: try it with #!/bin/bash -e
[18:45] <theadmin> DMRadford: Similarily, you'll need to put the exact location of loki.jar in.
[18:45] <nusr> ActionPArsnip, hujo: thank you. i'll try that
[18:45] <theadmin> DMRadford: For example, java -jar "/home/dmradford/java programs/loki.jar" "/home/dmradford/Blender/blender"
[18:45] <theadmin> Or whatever.
[18:46] <DMRadford> Ok
[18:46] <rberg_> and keep in mind that with -e any error will cause the rest of the script to fail
[18:46] <DMRadford> ah, so -e is bad in my case
[18:46] <theadmin> Well, when it's just one command it doesn't matter.
[18:46] <DMRadford> the "&" at the end makes it run in the background, correct?
[18:46] <rberg_> maybe not, everything I write is -e
[18:47] <theadmin> DMRadford: Yeah.
[18:47] <rberg_> correct about the &
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> DMRadford: because when YOU run the command there are lots of niceness in place. Root doesn't have those so you need to make long commands like theadmin showed
[18:48] <DMRadford> ok, will try that now.
[18:48] <theadmin> DMRadford: Also, when writing an initscript, you don't want the &, I beleive
[18:48] <theadmin> Upstart should handle that stuff.
[18:48] <DMRadford> ok
[18:50] <DMRadford> since I'm running this on Amazon EC2, the user is "ubuntu", so I *think* the location would be /home/ubuntu/loki.jar..... at the SSH terminal I uploaded loki.jar without navigating to another folder. Does that sound correct for the location?
[18:50] <theadmin> DMRadford: Sounds right, yup!
[18:50] <DMRadford> ok let me give this a shot....
[18:51] <waressearcher2> what is the best software I can use to capture video of gameplay in linux ?
[18:53] <waressearcher2> also, I have Core2Duo E2160 2x1.8Ghz CPU and Radeon X300 (10 year old) Video card, is it possible to use that hardware to capture gameplay with at least 25FPS ?
[18:53] <theadmin> waressearcher2: I use Kazam. I dunno about gameplay, but I use it for general video capturing and it works well.
[18:53] <theadmin> waressearcher2: Check it out, sorry if it doesn't fit your purposes.
[18:53] <waressearcher2> theadmin: you capture desktop stuff ?
[18:53] <theadmin> waressearcher2: Yeah, basically.
[18:54] <nonamae>  how can i run a script every time when my pc is getting back from suspend?
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> nonamae: http://askubuntu.com/questions/226278/run-script-on-wakeup#226284
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> nonamae: seen that page before?
[18:57] <nonamae> ActionParsnip, no
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> nonamae: it took me about 60 seconds to find....have you tried to find a solution online before asking?
[18:58] <nonamae> ActionParsnip, no
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> nonamae: why not? didnt think to maybe find out yourself.......
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> jesus....
[19:00] <OerHeks> fraytorment-5895, please fix your connection
[19:07] <zy3pD> does someone here uses kdenlive? ... need help
[19:08] <bazhang> try #kdenlive zy3pD
[19:10] <Z3> Hi, when Ubuntu 15.04 or 15.10 appear allowing MIR display server installation, will MIR available for install in Ubuntu 14.04 too?
[19:11] <zy3pD> thx bazhang
[19:12] <Z3> or it's unknown at this time
[19:13] <coagen> so when will ubuntu go full systemd?
[19:13] <bubbasaures> Z3, look up unity 8, https://www.google.com/search?q=unity+8&hl=en&gbv=1&sei=RrFjVJLzD5W4oQSwwYCYDQ
[19:13] <coagen> what is the expected release?
[19:14] <Z3> bubbasaures thank you ! :)
[19:15] <OerHeks> !info systemd
[19:15] <coagen> OerHeks: so it is default in utopic?
[19:16] <bekks> coagen: No.
[19:17] <OerHeks> coagan no, it is still under development https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd
[19:17] <coagen> bekks: I had heard it would be in 15.04 a while ago, but I think I had heard recently it would be pushed back to 15.10, just trying to find a source for this
[19:17] <coagen> OerHeks: thx for link
[19:18] <bekks> coagen: systemd can be used in 14.10, but the default is upstart, still. And it will be the default until 15.10 at least.
[19:18] <coagen> bekks: thanks! do you know any links that can provide this on a roadmap or something?
[19:20] <frib> can anyone recommend software for fingerprint-reading in ubuntu?
[19:21] <nonamae> how can i turn off the X Input Method, sometimes and after suspend it takes back the control over ibus
[19:21] <nonamae> ?
[19:22] <OerHeks> frib, there is a PPA https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui with list of supported devices
[19:23] <bazhang> nonamae, tried to restart ibus?
[19:23] <frib> OerHeks, thanks
[19:23] <nonamae> bazhang, if i do that the next time it will happen again
[19:23] <OerHeks> oh frib, this article says it does not really work well http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/how-to-get-your-fingerprint-reader-working-in-ubuntu
[19:24] <frib> OerHeks, oh no! i'm not supported :(
[19:25] <frib> OerHeks, so there's no way ?
[19:25] <frib> if my device is not in that list?
[19:28] <hotdog_harry> can someone explain to me where in the file tree i should be looking for someth8ing like an .exe file
[19:28] <hotdog_harry> i installed winFF and i can not figure out how to run it :(
[19:28] <bubbasaures> frib, If I could say, make sure you are backed up in lieu of anything happening.
[19:28] <bekks> hotdog_harry: you cannot run it on linux.
[19:29] <frib> bubbasaures, backed up for what?
[19:29] <bekks> !info winff
[19:29] <bekks> AH :)
[19:29] <bekks> hotdog_harry: Just open a terminal and type "winff" and press enter.
[19:29] <hotdog_harry> i don't understand. i installed it from ubuntu software center.
[19:29] <hotdog_harry> it doesn't show up :(
[19:29] <bubbasaures> frib, Well we see people here everyday bricking their setups with encryption....etc.
[19:29] <frib> bubbasaures, i'm trying to install a fingerprint reader
[19:30] <bekks> hotdog_harry: Keep it in the channel please.
[19:31] <bazhang> !info handbrake
[19:31] <bubbasaures> frib, Backups are what any smart user and IT use.
[19:31] <hujo> frib, any well chosen password will provide you with more security
[19:31] <hotdog_harry> the program is showing as installed (winff) but i cant find it with a search
[19:31] <bazhang> then get handbrake hotdog_harry
[19:31] <hotdog_harry> that was my first choice but winff was easier to install
[19:31] <frib> hujo, i'm not trying to replace my password, i'm just trying to do it to have it
[19:32] <frib> bubbasaures, i have all my data backed up, but still don't see why you're urging me to right now
[19:32] <hotdog_harry> handbrake doesnt have a file for my ubuntu version ...
[19:32] <hotdog_harry> saucy
[19:32] <bekks> hotdog_harry: which ubuntu version do you have then?
[19:32] <bekks> !saucy
[19:32] <bubbasaures> frib, Had you said you had it backed up we would not be talking.
[19:32] <slyrus> any idea why mounting nfs disks at startup would break on upgrade to utopic?
[19:32] <slyrus> cifs mount at startup still works fine :(
[19:32] <bekks> hotdog_harry: Saucy is end of life. Consider updating now.
[19:32] <hotdog_harry> no :(
[19:33] <hotdog_harry> i don't want to end my life :(
[19:33] <frib> bubbasaures, why are you telling me to back up my data?
[19:33] <bubbasaures> frib, the majority here don't it seems, mine was just a heads up in that area is all. ;)
[19:33] <EsoRotica> Hi, I'm having video issues: One of my two monitors fails for a second then comes back up (blacking both screens while X tries to reorder) I've switched from FGLRX to the Radeon driver recently and this may be why the issue appears new. dmesg reports "rv770_restrict_performance_levels_before_switch failed"
[19:33] <frib> but what does that have to do with a fingerprint reader
[19:33] <user123> dmesg | tail gives me "isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=sda2, iso_blknum=16, block=32" allthough sda2 isnt listed in fstab, does anyone know how i can get my system to try and stop mounting it? it is only an extented partition
[19:34] <arun_> hi
[19:34] <quidnunc> What is linux-cloud-tools?
[19:34] <afterlife> test
[19:34] <hujo> frib, some readers may expect you to encrypt your harddrive etc.
[19:35] <frib> hujo, really? that's pretty oppressive if you ask me
[19:36] <bubbasaures> frib, You barely have a grasp on your own personal reality, don't project it on us.
[19:37] <hujo> frib, I'd say experience, but whatever :)
[19:37] <hujo> frib, so - what are you doing with that nice fingerpint reader of yours?
[19:37] <frib> bubbasaures, you got it
[19:37] <frib> hujo, having fun
[19:38] <frib> hujo, or rather nothing, because there's no driver for it
[19:38] <hujo> frib, no harm in that, carry on :)
[19:38] <frib> hujo, I know, right? thanks
[19:39] <bubbasaures> quidnunc, General term, depends on the use and OS I think, researching this may be a better tool.
[19:40] <slyrus> bah. can't even file a bug against ubuntu-bug!
[19:41] <slyrus> "other problem" in the GUI -> "you need to specify a package or a PID"
[19:41] <slyrus> thanks man
[19:41] <slyrus> and clicking on the "report a bug" link in launchpad just takes me to the stupid FAQ page.
[19:42] <bubbasaures> !bugs
[19:43] <slyrus> yeah, yeah... no excuse for a broken gui though.
[19:44] <slyrus> and of course ubuntu-bug ubuntu-bug doesn't do the trick as that's not the package name
[19:44] <bubbasaures> slyrus, This is a support channel can consider that use?
[19:44] <slyrus> bubbasaures: see above "slyrus	any idea why mounting nfs disks at startup would break on upgrade to utopic?"
[19:45] <trelane> is there any documentation or information on Ubuntu Server's market share?
[19:45] <slyrus> but, yeah
[19:45] <lancelot_of> hi there
[19:45] <bubbasaures> slyrus, Cool, we just ask you keep the channel as focused and communicating not just commenting if possible. ;)
[19:46] <lancelot_of> i've virtualbox with extension pack under my 14.04.1 LTS but no usb devices are discovered if i plug them in. Any help please?
[19:46] <bubbasaures> lancelot_of, YOu have to add them in the preferences.
[19:46] <bekks> Is the user running vbox a member of the vboxuser group?
[19:46] <bubbasaures> thaat to
[19:49] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm using ubuntu on an old ibm netvista pc, and the speakers are shot. The pc doesn't have bluetooth, but I have a bluetooth speaker that I use for my phone that I would like to use. For the computer, can I get sound through bt with just a dongle, or does it have to be something like a new sound card?
[19:50] <lancelot_of> bekks, bubbasaures my user was not in the group vboxusers, so i added it
[19:50] <lancelot_of> bekks, bubbasaures but no way to discover usb device
[19:50] <bekks> lancelot_of: Now you have to log out completely and log back in.
[19:50] <OerHeks> Seven_Six_Two, dongle will do
[19:50] <lancelot_of> bekks, oh, killing present X session?
[19:50] <bekks> lancelot_of: Yes.
[19:51] <DMRadford> Hey all. I'm trying to get a java program to run at startup and I'm having trouble getting it going. The computer is an Amazon EC2 instance running Ubuntu Server. I've created startup.sh and put it in /etc/init.d/, chmod +x startup.sh, update-rc.d startup.sh defaults, nothing is working. Startup.sh contents: #!/bin/bash    java -jar /home/ubuntu/loki.jar /home/ubuntu/Blender/blender
[19:51] <lancelot_of> bekks, ok see you in a while (it's a pity i've to loose all my present work....)
[19:51] <bekks> lancelot_of: "Save as..."
[19:52] <OerHeks> DMRadford, on startup? then the java jar is out of reach, as the user is not logged in
[19:52] <OerHeks> DMRadford, start the script at login
[19:52] <lancelot_of> bekks, i've a lot of stuffs opened, a lot of workspaces with documents and others....i was not thinking to Save as...
[19:52] <DMRadford> OerHeks, ah, that would make sense. Do ec2 instances auto login? How would I set it to run at login?
[19:53] <hujo> DMRadford, file /home/ubuntu/loki.jar
[19:53] <bekks> lancelot_of: Or even just "Save". Thats how most people save their work, actually :)
[19:53] <OerHeks> DMRadford, add that script to startupappications
[19:53] <lancelot_of> bekks, ^^
[19:53] <OerHeks> *applications
[19:54] <lancelot_of> bekks, or did you refer to other "system based " save?
[19:54] <DMRadford> OerHeks, how do I do that via command line? the only access I have to the computer is SSH
[19:54] <lancelot_of> bekks, i guess you were talking about "save" of applications...
[19:54] <bekks> lancelot_of: No. I refer to the Save/Save As facilities of your applications.
[19:55] <lancelot_of> bekks, but this does not help me to restore current X session as it is, with a lot of documents opened, a lot of software etc...
[19:55] <lancelot_of> bekks, however, i'm going to do it anyway
[19:56] <OerHeks> DMRadford, http://askubuntu.com/questions/178567/how-to-add-a-program-as-startup-application-from-terminal
[19:57] <nikio_> How can I see all the oupt of a HTTP method with telnet? the ouytput is too large for the terminal
[19:58] <DMRadford> OerHeks, there's no .config folder under /home or /home/ubuntu
[19:58] <hujo> nikio_, use netcat and pipe the output to a pager or file
[19:59] <OerHeks> DMRadford, sure there is , type: ls -al
[19:59] <OerHeks> see 'man ls ' why
[20:00] <DMRadford> ah, got it (sorry, command line n00b here, still learning)
[20:02] <DMRadford> so, that info seems to only apply to desktop environments. Since it's an ec2 instance, it's not running gnome or KDE
[20:02] <hujo> DMRadford, try `file /home/ubuntu/loki.jar`
[20:03] <DMRadford> hujo, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with that. Put it in the bash in init.d/startup.sh?
[20:04] <hujo> DMRadford, you run it on your server
[20:04] <hujo> DMRadford, after you ssh-ed into it
[20:05] <DMRadford> SSH launch isn't an option really. I'm using ec2 as render nodes for a scalable render farm. I need the program to run automatically when the instance initiates.
[20:06] <ilun> hola
[20:08] <ilun> hi
[20:08] <lando> hi
[20:08] <OerHeks> DMRadford, don't put that scipt in your /home/ but in /opt/
[20:08] <ilun> q tal?
[20:08] <DMRadford> OerHeks, is there a way to make java jar available without any user being logged in?
[20:08] <OerHeks> DMRadford, then it will be in reach when your EC2 starts
[20:08] <nicksloan> pg_createcluster looks for a postgresql.conf file in the data directory when it encounters an existing cluster
[20:09] <nicksloan> but then it moves it to /etc
[20:09] <nicksloan> seems like it should symlink it instead
[20:09] <DMRadford> OerHeks, do you mean startup.sh, or the jar file and blender?
[20:09] <hujo> DMRadford, just log in right now and run the command I gave you
[20:10] <DMRadford> hujo: Here is the output from that....
[20:10] <DMRadford> ubuntu@ip-172-31-37-164:~/.config$ file /home/ubuntu/loki.jar /home/ubuntu/Blend         er/blender
[20:11] <OerHeks> DMRadford, the script and jar file, for blender i am not sure, as you have put it in your home too
[20:11] <hujo> DMRadford, the output is missing?
[20:12] <DMRadford> ... /home/ubuntu/loki.jar:        Java Jar file data (zip)
[20:12] <DMRadford> ... /home/ubuntu/Blender/blender: ELF 64-bit LSB  executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYS         V), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, BuildID[sha1]=b         cd197c22f2bedfa78626ff882480d03277288f7, stripped
[20:12] <hujo> DMRadford, alright - now we at least know that the files are actually there
[20:12] <DMRadford> lol
[20:12] <DMRadford> very true I suppose
[20:13] <DMRadford> OerHeks, if I put startup.sh in /opt, what tells it to automatically run at startup?
[20:13] <Linnak> Hi Guys. I wrote a script and I'd like to know if it worked: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5Pw8jCr4
[20:13] <Loshki> DMRadford: can/should you not invoke it from /etc/rc.local?
[20:14] <hujo> DMRadford, and now could you please paste the complete and unchanged contents of your startup shell file? http://paste.debian.net/
[20:14] <DMRadford> Loshki, I'm not sure, I'm not familiar with rc.local
[20:15] <DMRadford> http://paste.debian.net/131486/
[20:15] <DMRadford> I haven't moved the files or anything yet, that's what it looks like right now
[20:15] <hujo> DMRadford, and what does `which bash` give you?
[20:16] <Loshki> DMRadford: it's a shell script that runs as root as its final act before users login. A good place to kick off anything that doesn't need a display...
[20:16] <DMRadford> ... /bin/bash
[20:17] <Apachez> any of you who happens to have experience of x11vnc on ubuntu 14.10 ?
[20:17] <Wes-> does anyone know how to force a specific xsession desktop for a specific user in lightdm?
[20:17] <DMRadford> Loshki, ok. So I just put startup.sh in rc.local? Do I have to register it or anything other than make sure its executable?
[20:17] <Apachez> it runs but veeeery slow :S
[20:17] <Loshki> DMRadford: basically, copy startup.sh to /etc/rc.local, then reboot. Might wanna add some debugging lines to the script too :-)
[20:18] <Ameurux> hi
[20:19] <itisit> Hi, i installed erlang sloutions' version of erlang on ubuntu, but running apt-get -f install doesn't install those "unmet dependencies", such as erlang-appmon, erlang-debugger… Does anyone know how to fix it? the repo entry has been defined in sources.list.
[20:19] <fr33domlover> Hello
[20:19] <fr33domlover> Is it possible to run a Launchpad instance on my website?
[20:19] <Loshki> Apachez: I've used x11vnc before. Got a question?
[20:20] <DMRadford> Loshki, Ok I'm testing that now. Should that script work as is or should I still move the java files and blender into /opt like OerHeks said?
[20:20] <hujo> itisit, I never user their versions - you also might want to consult #erlang
[20:20] <OerHeks> fr33domlover, sure https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/920
[20:21] <lancelot_of> bekks, i followed your suggestion, now it seems usb works but when i plug in my phone it is not detected. But it should be, because i'm virtualizing winzoz just to use the corresponding software for my phone
[20:21] <hujo> itisit, they have been buggy for me in the past, I either use the version in the repos or compile myself
[20:21] <Loshki> DMRadford: shouldn't matter, but you might need full paths to the files so the script can find them.
[20:21] <OerHeks> itisit what is the repo ?
[20:21] <bekks> lancelot_of: Whats your phone, in particular?
[20:21] <peakland> Apachez, I have a question.  I'm trying to establish a remote desktop connection into a ubuntu system.  The screen shows up but there are no icons on the desktop.
[20:21] <fr33domlover> OerHeks, "Also, Launchpad's production configuration information and some configuration-specific admin scripts are not part of the Launchpad code base; you'd have to reinvent those in a way appropriate for your setup."
[20:21] <lancelot_of> bekks, BB Q5
[20:22] <fr33domlover> I read it nearly impossible to rewrite those scripts
[20:22] <itisit> hujo: thanks. Unfortunately, we prefer their version of Erlang due to stability.
[20:22] <fr33domlover> Anyone did it before?
[20:22] <itisit> OerHeks: repository
[20:22] <DMRadford> Loshki, the full paths are already in startup.sh. I moved startup.sh and rebooted the instance. Still didn't connect to my render manager so still not working
[20:22] <hujo> itisit, well, I use in erlang in production, never from erlang solutions, and we have 0 stability issues
[20:22] <bekks> lancelot_of: you are heaviliy out of luck, since thats a dual personality device which uses a non-standard way to communicate over USB. Thank you, Blackberry.
[20:23] <itisit> OerHeks: is deb http://packages.erlang-solutions.com/ubuntu precise contrib
[20:25] <itisit> hujo: I agree with you since I also use eralng for a long time and didn't see problem, but right now try to support rabbitmq, whom prefers E Solution's version.
[20:26] <OerHeks> itisit, ar you on utopic 14.10 ?
[20:26] <Loshki> DMRadford: add some debugging lines to make sure it executes e.g. echo "`date` Started rc.local" >> /tmp/rc.log; jar java -jar /home/ubuntu/loki.jar /home/ubuntu/Blender/blender >> /tmp/rc.log; echo "`date` Ended rc.local" >> /tmp/rc.log;
[20:26] <itisit> OerHeks: no, 12.04 precise
[20:26] <OerHeks> itisit, oke, make sure you enable universe repo in sources
[20:28] <OerHeks> itisit, then run apt-get install -f  again
[20:28] <itisit> OerHeks: sure. thanks.
[20:32] <Novice201y> Hello. Is there official polish #ubuntu channel?
[20:32] <DJones> !pl
[20:33] <Novice201y> DJones: Dzieki.
[20:33] <lancelot_of> bekks, but under windows it should work, BB link works only under windows...
[20:33] <Novice201y> #join #ubuntu-pl
[20:33] <bekks> lancelot_of: On a native install, yes. With the BB drivers installed.
[20:34] <lancelot_of> bekks, and i cannot install BB drivers under virtualized windows?
[20:34] <bekks> lancelot_of: You can, but that will not change the way vbox talks to that device.
[20:39] <ubuntu-user> hi need help
[20:39] <lancelot_of> bekks, ok so no way in your opinion
[20:39] <OerHeks> !ask | ubuntu-user
[20:40] <bekks> lancelot_of: Ciorrect, yes. You could file a bug in the vbox bugtracker, so the vbox devs are able to fix it in the future.
[20:40] <lancelot_of>  bekks how to
[20:41] <ubuntu-user> in which log can I find errors ocurs just bevor gnone came up?
[20:42] <Simplar_> Hi, can you tell me what I need to fully run up all my devices on debian\ubuntu? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8971076/
[20:42] <Simplar_> i can't get my webcam working :(
[20:45] <BUSY> can i clear ~/.cache/?
[20:45] <OerHeks> ubuntu-user, see ~/.cache/upstart/gnome-session.log
[20:47] <Guest35977> does anyone know of a good voice chat program that doesn't require an account (ip to ip calling)?
[20:48] <DerProfessor> Re OK hab ich und jetzt?
[20:48] <bazhang> !de
[20:49] <matrixa1> How do I stop the battery from charging above a certain percentage? Or modify the "charge" and "charged" thresholds separately? I have googled, and no I don't own a thinkpad.
[20:50] <redshift> hi iv some problem with apt-get
[20:50] <redshift> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[20:50] <redshift> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[20:51] <redshift> can any1 help me please
[20:51] <daftykins> !aptlock | redshift
[20:51] <OerHeks> redshift, do you have softwarecenter/synaptic open ? close that first before doing something in terminal
[20:54] <necrodude> sup
[20:54] <Fetch> if I have a 14.04 install with luks encrypted root, is there a supported way of upgrading to 14.10?
[20:55] <Wes-> I'm doing a custom LiveCD.   Is there a better way to get OS updates other than a chroot'd "apt-get update" before mksquashfs?
[20:57] <frumpus> anyone on who's good with phpmyadmin config? I'm getting a Not Found after install
[20:57] <bekks> frumpus: the default config works fine. What didi you change there?
[20:58] <frumpus> didn't change a thing :-/
[20:58] <frumpus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2252541
[20:58] <frumpus> details there
[20:58] <cbasingertx> sudo apt-get -f install  ??
[20:58] <bekks> frumpus: And where do you get "not found"?
[20:58] <bekks> cbasingertx: For doing what?
[20:59] <frumpus> this is a localhost setup for a dev environment. get not found going to localhost/phpmyadmin
[20:59] <cbasingertx> Whenever my packages fail to install properly that alwayes fixes it
[20:59] <cbasingertx> ooh
[20:59] <bekks> cbasingertx: Thats like a nuke for a little birdie...
[20:59] <bekks> frumpus: Did you take look at the apache logs?
[21:00] <cbasingertx> I thought you were meaning package was saying not found when you tried to run the binary...my bad
[21:00] <frumpus> no, i'm quite the n00b so not sure where those are
[21:00] <bekks> frumpus: They can be found in /var/log/
[21:00] <bekks> frumpus: Which Ubuntu are you on, and how did you install phpmyadmin?
[21:00] <bynarie> frumpus-  do you even have a phpmyadmin folder on local drive under www root?
[21:01] <frumpus> 14.04, checking log now
[21:01] <bekks> bynarie: Thats not where it is placed when installing it using the ubuntu repos
[21:02] <bynarie> ok but in order to access it from http://host/phpmyadmin wouldnt it need to be placed in www root folder?
[21:03] <bynarie> wwwroot/phpmyadmin
[21:03] <Ben64> yes
[21:03] <bekks> bynarie: No
[21:03] <Ben64> i mean, unless theres another config for it
[21:03] <bekks> bynarie: It is configured as a virtual site
[21:03] <frumpus> error.log shows this
[21:03] <frumpus> [Wed Nov 12 10:08:45.154018 2014] [mpm_prefork:notice] [pid 13644] AH00169: caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[21:03] <frumpus> [Wed Nov 12 10:08:46.374693 2014] [mpm_prefork:notice] [pid 13711] AH00163: Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.5.9-1ubuntu4.5 configured -- resuming normal operations
[21:03] <frumpus> [Wed Nov 12 10:08:46.374750 2014] [core:notice] [pid 13711] AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2'
[21:03] <bynarie> oh i seer
[21:03] <bynarie> see*
[21:04] <Ben64> bynarie: download phpmyadmin from here, put in your web root folder, and use it. http://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/downloads.php
[21:05] <bynarie> i dont need it... frumpus does
[21:05] <bynarie> i was just asking
[21:06] <Fetch> also, don't download phpadmin from source and install it and bypass the package management system unless you legitimately can't get it working otherwise
[21:06] <Fetch> you'll forget about it, a security update will come out, and you'll never know
[21:06] <frumpus> yeah, would prefer to not go that route
[21:07] <frumpus> this is the guide i'm using to set everything up, http://klau.si/dev wondering if it is missing a step somewhere
[21:07] <frumpus> it's a little dated but wouldn't think that much has changed
[21:08] <bekks> frumpus: Forget that guide.
[21:08] <bekks> frumpus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[21:09] <frumpus> hmm... that looks like more of a server guide, i'm wanting a local dev environment using localhost  and multiple vhosts
[21:10] <cryptodan> frumpus: samething
[21:10] <frumpus> ooooh, it has a bit on troubleshooting my exact problem though
[21:11] <cryptodan> frumpus: you could also just use a VM of Ubuntu Server
[21:11] <frumpus> starting over a third time doesn't sound like much fun
[21:11] <frumpus> this is already a VM
[21:12] <cryptodan> If you install Ubuntu Server you can select LAMP which will get you want you want for Apache, MySQL, and PHP
[21:13] <bekks> frumpus: Just follow that guide.
[21:13] <FilthyMacNasty> could someone help me recover a directory that was in the process of mv * when the drive ran out of space?
[21:14] <tesaf> apache :(
[21:14] <lama2p00> Anyone can help me get Bumblebee working for my GTX 870M? I found this guide, but it's for Kali OS, I know Ubuntu and Kali are both Debian based, but, the guide talks about wheezy backports? and I don't think that applies to Ubuntu? idk...  https://forums.kali.org/showthread.php?21956-%28Guide%29-Installing-Nvidia-Bumblebee-CUDA-for-Optimus-enabled-Laptops&p=35420&viewfull=1#post35420
[21:14] <tesaf> the saddest web server of them all
[21:14] <frumpus> FIXED
[21:15] <k1l> lama2p00: use nvidia-prime, bumblebee is deprecated
[21:15] <frumpus> added include /etc/phpmyadmin/apached.conf to the /etc/apache2/apache2.conf file
[21:15] <lama2p00> Ok, a guide to install that? And which Nvidia Driver will it work with?
[21:15] <frumpus> thanks bekks, that guide had exactly what I needed
[21:15] <k1l> lama2p00: what gives "lsb_release -d"
[21:16] <lama2p00> Ubuntu 14.04.1
[21:16] <lama2p00> I'm on Ubuntu Gnome
[21:18] <nuke1989> some tcp connections got time_out on my server.  I want to make them connect as usual. any tips?
[21:18] <mustmodify> How do I get a list of files _without_ the string "page_title" ie the opposite of `grep page_title app/views -r` ...  All i know is that everything worked fine but i rebooted server and my thinking is they got time banned or something because they were trying to reach server when it was rebooting
[21:21] <dw__> idk if this is the right place to ask this, but I'm having some major issue with counterstrike source on ubuntu mate 14.10
[21:21] <cryptodan> nuke1989: might I suggest that you brush up on your networking skills before trying to run a server, and a reboot wont cause them to get "time banned"
[21:21] <nuke1989> cryptodan, this is what i am actually doing :) I am learning with trial.
[21:22] <cryptodan> nuke1989: I hope to god its not public facing
[21:22] <Ben64> dw__: ubuntu mate isn't supported
[21:22] <nuke1989> no its totally personal!
[21:22] <cryptodan> lama2p00: the 331-updates should be what they want
[21:22] <bekks> nuke1989: And whats not working now?
[21:22] <cryptodan> nuke1989: then just wait for those time_outs to clear
[21:23] <lama2p00> what is 331-updates? it it 331 driver? or newer?
[21:23] <dw__> Ben64, ok then
[21:23] <daftykins> lama2p00: still haven't made any progress, eh?
[21:23] <nuke1989> cryptodan, where can i see how much time it takes for them to clear and how do i change time?
[21:23] <lama2p00> Well I have the system booting into gnome now..
[21:23] <cryptodan> nuke1989: its all part of the TCP/IP Protocol
[21:24] <daftykins> lama2p00: oh right. what was the trick?
[21:25] <jasones0084> Wow! This channel is hot!
[21:25] <crystal_s> hello . tor is safe ander man on the middle attack ?
[21:25] <lama2p00> I was lazy, just installed xubuntu-desktop.. So, could be a lot of things.. Maybe lightdm instead of gdm? gdm went bad? who knows lol
[21:26] <jasones0084> i had a hard time with getting port forwarding to work with my Ubuntu apache server
[21:26] <jasones0084> keeps trying to hard link to the LAN
[21:26] <jasones0084> probably have to setup a FQDN
[21:27] <fabienne___> Is there some particular optimization package ubuntu uses for font rendering? At least in comparison to my previous slackware install fonts in especially firefox appear much more crisp
[21:29] <Krixvar> Thought I got my soundcard's stereo outputs finally working using .asoundrc but it seems it was just a fluke... not working again :/ any idea why my sound card very occasionally outputs from the main stereo pair but usually only works from the second one? Its a mixvibes u-mix 44
[21:33] <bray90820> Are there any tablets that support the X86_64 version of ubuntu
[21:33] <Ben64> bray90820: look for tablets that support windows x64
[21:35] <bray90820> bekks: I tried that and thought I found one but it turned out to be some clover-trail crap and ubuntu won't install on the damn thing
[21:35] <bray90820> wrong ping
[21:35] <bray90820> Ben64: I tried that and thought I found one but it turned out to be some clover-trail crap and ubuntu won't install on the damn thing
[21:37] <Ben64> bray90820: ok then, make sure its a normal x64 processor i guess, might not be many in tablet form
[21:38] <bray90820> Ben64: Intel Atom Z2760 Dual-core CPU properties inside of windows says x86 based processor
[21:38] <Krixvar> whoops just crashed.. the only way I can occasionally get the card to work correctly is by plugging and unplugging it a few times.. though sometimes it'll just stop working altogether until I reboot if I unplug it too many times
[21:38] <lama2p00> Seems to be working since lightdm is used instead of gdm now. BUT, lightdm seems a little buggy with Gnome.. I can't have more than one desktop either.
[21:39] <Ben64> bray90820: very slow too
[21:39] <cryptodan> lama2p00: you mean workspace?
[21:39] <lama2p00> yeah
[21:39] <cryptodan> lama2p00: you can add those
[21:39] <nggafriedchkn> does anyone know why on linux the speakers sound fuzzy?
[21:39] <lama2p00> how? I had them by default before
[21:39] <Ben64> nggafriedchkn: they don't
[21:39] <nggafriedchkn> i'm on ubuntu, but this problem persists through different linux distributions
[21:40] <cryptodan> in the settings for your desktop environment lama2p00
[21:40] <bray90820> Ben64: I am only using it for web browsing text editing and videos so i don't meed much power
[21:40] <nggafriedchkn> it sounds like an nes game
[21:40] <Ben64> bray90820: then why does it need to be 64?
[21:40] <nggafriedchkn> Ben64: my speakers sound like an nes game
[21:40] <nggafriedchkn> but if i boot into windows it'll be fine
[21:40] <lama2p00> the screen keeps freezing too here and there..
[21:40] <nggafriedchkn> i'm puzzled by this
[21:41] <Ben64> nggafriedchkn: pastebin "lspci"
[21:41] <buba> ciao a tutti
[21:41] <cryptodan> lama2p00: sounds like your computer is having hardware issues
[21:41] <bray90820> Ben64: when I said that I wasn't really thinking i ment like the normal desktop version of ubuntu not ubuntu touch crap
[21:41] <buba> ho un piccolo problema
[21:41] <basil1x> ArrivederLa, buba
[21:41] <basil1x> Oops
[21:41] <basil1x> Thought you were leaving
[21:42] <basil1x> What is it, hon?
[21:42] <buba> chi mi aiuta????
[21:42] <nggafriedchkn> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/ATmciSt1
[21:42] <lama2p00> Hardware or driver?, pretty new laptop and hasn't had problems hardware related.
[21:42] <Ben64> !it | buba
[21:42] <cryptodan> lama2p00: might be hardware
[21:43] <lama2p00> I'm thinking maybe lightdm and Gnome just don't play well together?
[21:43] <nggafriedchkn> bubba ti serve aiuto?
[21:43] <lama2p00> because this is new.
[21:43] <buba> grazie
[21:43] <nggafriedchkn> qual'e il vostro problema?
[21:43] <k1l> lama2p00: gnome on the ubuntu gnome is more to the original gnome and might need gdm to work properly
[21:44] <k1l> !it | nggafriedchkn
[21:44] <lama2p00> Yeah I guess so, but for this hybrid graphics to work I need lightdm..
[21:44] <OerHeks> nggafriedchkn buba english only please, or continue in #ubuntu-it
[21:44] <lama2p00> Guess I just should use a different DE? =(
[21:44] <lama2p00> I like Gnome =( lol
[21:45] <nggafriedchkn> wow ubottu is slow
[21:45] <nggafriedchkn> but i'm helping him out in the italian channel :P
[21:45] <nggafriedchkn> so this is my paste
[21:45] <nggafriedchkn> http://pastebin.com/ATmciSt1
[21:45] <nggafriedchkn> i don't get what's wrong with it
[21:45] <cryptodan> lama2p00: no you dont
[21:45] <lama2p00> I don't like Gnome?
[21:46] <cryptodan> lama2p00: your display manager has nothign to do with graphics please follow this http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1687 if you are using intel with nvidia
[21:46] <Ben64> nggafriedchkn: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Alsa#Set_the_default_sound_card
[21:46] <lama2p00> The hybrid graphics page from ubuntu says lightdm is required
[21:47] <mustmodify> How do I get a list of files _without_ the string "page_title" ie the opposite of `grep page_title app/views -r` ... I was thinking find app/views -type f | something ...
[21:47] <cryptodan> lama2p00: its not
[21:47] <lama2p00> that page mentions bumblebee
[21:47] <nggafriedchkn> i don't want to sound like a windows shill, but is there a way to have the sounds automatically switch over when headphones are unplugged for example?
[21:47] <lama2p00> bumblebee was a problem for me, and someone else said it was depricated, to use nvidia-prime
[21:47] <nggafriedchkn> like switch over to speakers
[21:48] <NegativeFlare> mustmodify: I'm not sure anyone in here could help you with Regex stuff, this is a Ubuntu Help Channel.
[21:48] <cryptodan> lama2p00: they are wrong
[21:48] <nggafriedchkn> windows made that feature super easy
[21:48] <nggafriedchkn> just unplug... here it seems really difficult
[21:48] <nggafriedchkn> but thanks for the read, i love learning stuff
[21:48] <lama2p00> With Bumblebee xorg was crashing and terminating.
[21:48] <Ben64> nggafriedchkn: usually it works automagically in ubuntu
[21:49] <cryptodan> lama2p00: sounds like your computer may need a fresh installation
[21:49] <OerHeks> lama2p00, no, nvidia prime is not depreciated
[21:49] <k1l> lama2p00: bumblebee is deprecated
[21:49] <nggafriedchkn> Ben64: well, i have wireless headphones and they work, but i have to go to sound settings and select the headphones in order to use them
[21:49] <Jake> Hey there, does anyone know of a file recovery package that can handle the recovery of .log files? testdisk doesn't show the directory and photorec doesn't support log files
[21:49] <k1l> lama2p00: nvidia-prime is the way to go
[21:49] <mustmodify> NegativeFlare: it was worth a shot... I often learn bash here. :)
[21:49] <nggafriedchkn> it doesn't happen automatically :(
[21:49] <n0o0b> Hi : Where can I download libpcap.so.0.9.x ?
[21:49] <NegativeFlare> mustmodify: ah. I see.
[21:49] <lama2p00> yes, bumblebee depricated what I was jsut told by you, he's saying to use bumblebee =|
[21:49] <mustmodify> NegativeFlare: since most ubuntu folk seem to know their way around bash.
[21:50] <k1l> lama2p00: see the error logs to see what the issue with gdm is then
[21:50] <NegativeFlare> mustmodify: Yes, most ;)
[21:50] <OerHeks> !testdisk | Jake
[21:50] <k1l> lama2p00: who says to use bumblebee?
[21:50] <temje>  Hey folks. I'm running Xubuntu 14.04.1. I recently uninstalled steam with 'sudo apt-get remove steam' and now all I get is a grey screen upon login. I can still run guake though! any ideas?
[21:50] <cryptodan> no bumblebee will include nvidia prime
[21:50] <nggafriedchkn> my speakers sound fine during boot, but something happens when i switch back over from headphones
[21:50] <lama2p00> scryptodan
[21:50] <lama2p00> he gave me link for bumblebee
[21:50] <nggafriedchkn> the speakers start sounding fuzzy after i take off my headphones
[21:50] <Ben64> n0o0b: 0.8 is the latest in ubuntu, if you want a newer one, you're on your own
[21:50] <cryptodan> lama2p00: follow that guide I sent you
[21:51] <cryptodan> lama2p00: it will work
[21:51] <k1l> lama2p00: cryptodan is plain wrong here. the displaymanager starts the xserver. so its 100% relating on the drivers involved
[21:51] <n0o0b> Ben64: thx.. Can I use alient to convert an rpm  ?
[21:51] <Jordan_U> nggafriedchkn: Please change your nick to somthing more appropriate for this channel.
[21:51] <lama2p00> I thought so
[21:51] <lama2p00> and lightdm isn't working well with gnome
[21:51] <NegativeFlare> temje: Sounds like something has broken the actual desktop environment.
[21:51] <cryptodan> lama2p00: follow the guide I sent you
[21:51] <Ben64> n0o0b: that is not recommended, you're definitely on your own for that
[21:51] <cryptodan> it will work
[21:51] <k1l> cryptodan: you are wrong there.
[21:51] <cryptodan> as it has worked quite well with others
[21:51] <cryptodan> k11 no I am not
[21:51] <lama2p00> I had bumblebee before
[21:51] <n0o0b> Ben64 - thanks
[21:51] <lama2p00> I'm on a GTX 870M
[21:52] <n0o0b> Ben64: I see 1.4.0 too on ubuntu.. don't think 0.8 is the latest..
[21:52] <k1l> cryptodan: dont compare linuxmint with ubuntu please
[21:52] <lama2p00> Bumblebee was giving me errors to xorg
[21:52] <k1l> lama2p00: yes, use nvidia-prime
[21:52] <n0o0b> Ben64: I think ubuntu perhaps skipped 0.9.x
[21:52] <n0o0b> Ben64 - thanks anyways
[21:52] <Ben64> n0o0b: where are you seeing 1.4
[21:52] <cryptodan> lama2p00: then add the following PPA to your ubuntu install and install updated drivers http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/xorg-edgers
[21:53] <lama2p00> Edgers was a problem for me too
[21:53] <lama2p00> I had all that
[21:53] <lama2p00> it was giving errors
[21:53] <cryptodan> lama2p00: then your machine is having issues
[21:53] <lama2p00> no
[21:53] <n0o0b> Ben64: "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu  has libpcap.so.1.4.0"
[21:53] <cryptodan> lama2p00: like maybe hardware overheating or something
[21:53] <lama2p00> It works fine otherwise
[21:53] <lama2p00> nope
[21:53] <Ben64> lama2p0: you probably need edgers and nvidia-prime
[21:53] <k1l> lama2p00: please provide errormessages and logs in a pastebin please.
[21:54] <lama2p00> sec I have a thread from when I had bumblebee with the problem..
[21:54] <lama2p00> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2252322
[21:54] <Ben64> n0o0b: what version of ubuntu are you on
[21:55] <OerHeks> n0o0b, trusty has Package: libpcap0.8 (1.5.3-2)
[21:55] <lama2p00> I believe my only issue right now it lightdm and gnome not playing well together.. no actual crashes or anything, just small freezes in windows and such
[21:56] <markus-j> i need some help to debug an upstart problem, my box does not boot up fully any more but stops after the first initial stage
[21:56] <markus-j> maybe i have nailed it down to mountall, but that is just a guess
[21:57] <markus-j> running mountall by myself (init=/bin/sh and opening a second tty2) makes upstart continue the boot process
[21:59] <markus-j> weirdly, the box boots without problems if i supply --verbose, but that is just a workaround ...
[22:01] <FreedomSlap> can Ubuntu run Internet Explorer?
[22:01] <k1l> FreedomSlap: try wine
[22:01] <Jordan_U> FreedomSlap: Old versions, yes. What is your end goal though?
[22:02] <FreedomSlap> End goal is to run the latest version of Internet Explorer, as it is my preferred browser.
[22:02] <OerHeks> FreedomSlap, sure, but we won't support that :-D
[22:02] <FreedomSlap> It's the most secure, stable, and fast
[22:02] <lama2p00> Thanks for the help guys.. I need to leave here. have a good day all.
[22:02] <FreedomSlap> OerHeks then you don't have to talk to not support that, do you?
[22:02] <OerHeks> FreedomSlap, join #winehq for support
[22:02] <nggafriedchkn> just a curious question guys, how does someone learn and understand to do these kinds of things: http://www.geekyboy.com/archives/664
[22:02] <OerHeks> !wine
[22:02] <FreedomSlap> OerHeks naw, WINE will just make IE unstable
[22:03] <Ben64> well IE will not run natively in Linux
[22:03] <FreedomSlap> I don't need to run natively
[22:03] <FreedomSlap> just need it to run
[22:03] <Jordan_U> nggafriedchkn: Your nick is not appropriate for this channel. Please change it or I will have to remove you from the channel.
[22:03] <n0o0b> Ben64: I am running the latest - 14.10
[22:04] <Ben64> FreedomSlap: you've already been given the information on how to do so
[22:04] <nggafriedchkn> how is my nick not appropriatte?!
[22:04] <FreedomSlap> Ben64 no I haven't
[22:04] <furkan> does anybody have information on how i can disable the unity online search from a config file? i'd like to push the config to a bunch of desktops automatically, instead of doing it from the GUI settings
[22:04] <Jordan_U> nggafriedchkn: Please join #ubuntu-ops if you'd like to discuss the appropriateness of your nick.
[22:05] <FreedomSlap> hey Jordan_U leave the guy alone he didn't do anything wrong
[22:05] <FreedomSlap> Jordan_U I think YOUR nick is inappropriate
[22:07] <kln2d>  /server chat.freenode.net
[22:09] <metaldog> easy. anyone know if there is a peppermint os help room in xchat anywhere?
[22:09] <DMRadford> having some trouble with bash scripts. I have startup.sh with some code in /home/ubuntu. From the terminal, if I type "/home/ubuntu/startup.sh" it runs fine. However when I try to run "sudo /home/ubuntu/startup.sh", it just hangs and won't run my script.
[22:10] <k1l> metaldog: ask alis or see the peppermint site
[22:11] <metaldog> haha, nice one. now why didn't i think of that, lol
[22:11] <k1l> !alis > metaldog
[22:12] <Jordan_U> DMRadford: Please pastebin your startup.sh, also note that you should try to run commands as root only when it is both needed, and known to be safe.
[22:13] <DMRadford> http://paste.debian.net/131486/
[22:13] <DMRadford> I'm trying to get it to run via rc.local at boot
[22:13] <DMRadford> I've also tried it with dictating "/usr/bin/java" as well, same results
[22:14] <onla> whats da chinese ubuntu channel
[22:14] <Jordan_U> !cn | onla
[22:14] <onla> ty
[22:15] <Jordan_U> DMRadford: What are /home/ubuntu/loki.jar and /home/ubuntu/Blender/blender?
[22:15] <DMRadford> loki.jar is a render farm manager software, blender is the blender program file used for rendering (fed as a variable into loki.jar)
[22:16] <Jordan_U> DMRadford: Why does loki.jar need to be run as root? Is loki.jar a program that was written to be safely run as root?
[22:16] <dawn_star> oh whoops I'm in sluguntu
[22:18] <swair> any idea how large is task_struct in 64 bit kernel?
[22:18] <DMRadford> Jordan_U, it's safe to be run as root. I actually don't care if it runs as root or not, I just need it to launch at boot. However from what I can tell, anything in rc.local is run as root
[22:19] <dlam> hmm im trying to make a generic user who can checkout stuff from github using SSH:  can i put like "global" IdentityFile rules in /etc/sshd_config ?   like i want every user who does `ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to use the key at /etc/ssh/foobar.key
[22:19] <Jordan_U> DMRadford: su your_username -c /path/to/startup.sh
[22:20] <DMRadford> Jordan_U, this is running on an Amazon ec2 server, not a local machine. I need loki to start at boot so if I need 40+ instances, I don't have to SSH into each one.
[22:21] <DMRadford> Jordan_U, use that in rc.local?
[22:21] <Jordan_U> DMRadford: Yes. That will run the script as your user instead of as root.
[22:22] <DMRadford> Awesome! I think this might have just started working correctly!!!
[22:22] <DMRadford> Thank you Jordan_U
[22:22] <Jordan_U> DMRadford: You're welcome :)
[22:22] <DMRadford> Now to see if it holds true when I reboot the instance....
[22:23] <furkan> Jordan_U: any ideas for my unity search issue?
[22:24] <furkan> trying to search online but the only way to disable it that i can find is through the GUi
[22:24] <Jordan_U> furkan: No, sorry.
[22:25] <k1l> furkan: "gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Lenses disabled-scopes "['more_suggestions-amazon.scope', 'more_suggestions-u1ms.scope', 'more_suggestions-populartracks.scope', 'music-musicstore.scope', 'more_suggestions-ebay.scope', 'more_suggestions-ubuntushop.scope', 'more_suggestions-skimlinks.scope']" "   should do
[22:26] <OerHeks> furkan, see http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/pro-tip-remove-product-suggestions-from-ubuntu-unity-search-results/ scroll down to 'for power users only'
[22:26] <cluelesscoder> so I'm not on my linux computer right now so I can't test suggestions, but I'm curious: what are people's methods for removing metapackages? the accepted answer at http://askubuntu.com/questions/166803/how-remove-all-programs-from-a-meta-package is sort of scary, and I tried "aptitude remove <metapackage>" (after installing with aptitude) and it didn't work with xfce4; seems the dependencies...
[22:26] <cluelesscoder> ...were marked as manually-installed too and deborphan isn't working
[22:27] <k1l> furkan: and "gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Lenses remote-content-search none"  should keep all searches locally
[22:31] <richar> hi
[22:33] <gebruiker> anyone here using  Infinality font rendering?
[22:35] <furkan> k1l OerHeks thanks a lot guys!
[22:35] <OerHeks> furkan, have fun
[22:35] <entreri> hey there, I can't seem to find seamonkey package in the repo, does it still exist ?
[22:37] <Chuck_Norris> lo) i excuse me, but... i just can't believe it  -.-   https://github.com/Microsoft/dotnet
[22:37] <Jordan_U> Chuck_Norris: Please keep offtopic chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[22:37] <entreri> Chuck_Norris: that's great, now we will be able to write SystemD in .Net, perfect candidate !
[22:38] <Chuck_Norris> Jordan_U: i know i know, that's why i said excuse me :P
[22:38] <OerHeks> entreri, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeaMonkey points to http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#official
[22:39] <OerHeks> entreri, the PPA's at the end are dead
[22:39] <Chuck_Norris> entreri: could be but, don't we keep doing offtopic -.-
[22:41] <Phillies> would connecting to a vpn from your laptop  stop you from getting incoming ssh connectioons?
[22:41] <Phillies> on your ip
[22:41] <bekks> Phillies: Most likely, yes.
[22:41] <Phillies> for some fucking reason i cant ssh to my box anymore   22 is open   and everything is same
[22:42] <Phillies> only diffrence is im on a vpn at the moment
[22:42] <Jordan_U> Phillies: Please watch your language.
[22:42] <Phillies> sorry
[22:42] <bekks> Disconnect from the VPN, and try again.
[22:43] <Jordan_U> Phillies: It depends on how you connect to the vpn, but often for security reasons you want to disallow any other local traffic when connected to a VPN. Many employers mandate this, and try to enforce it in their Windows based VPN clients.
[22:44] <Chuck_Norris> Phillies: if you want a PC in the middle of the connection you could do:  ssh -t user@local-server ssh user@remote-server  -.-
[22:45] <Jordan_U> Phillies: While you can obviously configure things differently in Ubuntu, you might want to consider if that's something that you actually want to do.
[22:46] <cluelesscoder> OK, I'm going to take my question about removing metapackages over to debian if nobody has any thoughts...
[22:47] <Phillies> i was just trouble shooting ivebeen ssh to my laptop when im at school for various things and over the weekend i got my laptop connecting online thru a vpn provider.  when i tried to ssh to my laptop today from school its not connecting.   even port scanningmy ip is saying operation attempted on somthing thats not a socket on 22       came home  laptop is still on and onlkine so i was jst tryin to figure out whats going on. only thi
[22:47] <Phillies> ng i could think of was that maybe the vpn was the problem
[22:48] <Marezz> Hello everyone
[22:48] <Chuck_Norris> cluelesscoder: waht is your question¿
[22:48] <Marezz> Does anyone know if its possible to join multiple IRC servers from Pidgin or its limited by 1 server per account?
[22:49] <cluelesscoder> Chuck_Norris: see above, how do I completely remove metapackages? anyway asked it on debian which may be a better fit
[22:50] <Chuck_Norris> cluelesscoder: mmm... removing it by the name of the package isn't enough?
[22:50] <cryptodan> Marezz: it is possible
[22:51] <cluelesscoder> Chuck_Norris: apparently not (see that askubuntu link above); I did "aptitude install xfce4" and it installed dozens of packages; "aptitude remove xfce4" removed one
[22:51] <Marezz> cryptodan: Can you please tell me how? :)
[22:51] <cryptodan> Marezz: adding them via adding accounts
[22:51] <cluelesscoder> and autoremove won't get rid of them because apparently they were marked as "manually installed"
[22:51] <Chuck_Norris> cluelesscoder: and aptitude remove xfce4* ?
[22:52] <cluelesscoder> Chuck_Norris: didn't try that, but not all the packages began with xfce4...
[22:52] <cluelesscoder> Chuck_Norris: would prefer something cleaner; I don't think all the packages even have xfce4 in their name
[22:52] <Chuck_Norris> then, run; apt-get autoremove
[22:52] <cluelesscoder> Chuck_Norris: doesn't work, all packages were marked as manually installed
[22:53] <cluelesscoder> Chuck_Norris: I will try it again though... that is a good start
[22:53] <cluelesscoder> Chuck_Norris: still not really as thorough as I would like
[22:53] <Ben64> cluelesscoder: the short answer is - you can't
[22:53] <Chuck_Norris> i meant after:  aptitude remove xfce4*   then  apt-get autoremove, to remove dependences and others stuffs, did't work either?
[22:54] <cluelesscoder> Ben64: why hasn't some way been designed?
[22:54] <entreri> hey guys, why seamonkey is not in the repo ?
[22:54] <Ben64> cluelesscoder: because of dependencies
[22:55] <cluelesscoder> Ben64: what do you mean? pretty sure nothing I have depends upon xfce4-session except other xcfe4 packages...
[22:55] <k1l> entreri: it was back when in the lucid days
[22:55] <cluelesscoder> Chuck_Norris: I'll have to try it later but I'm reluctant to dive into screwing around without having a clear plan and thorough solution...
[22:55] <Marezz> cryptodan: Thank you very much, it works
[22:55] <Ben64> cluelesscoder: right, but how does apt know what you had before you installed the meta package
[22:56] <Chuck_Norris> cluelesscoder: ok, i know is not that clean, but, idk another way arround -.-
[22:56] <entreri_> hey there, I cannot find seamonkey in the repo, any idea ?
[22:56] <cluelesscoder> Ben64: so what do people do in practice? just live with more packages than necessary?
[22:56] <OerHeks> entreri, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeaMonkey points to http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#official
[22:57] <OerHeks> entreri, the PPA's at the end are dead
[22:57] <cluelesscoder> Ben64: I guess the reason deborphan is not picking these up is because they are interdependent?
[22:57] <k1l> entreri_:  see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seamonkey/+publishinghistory enrole first message, it got removed because there was no maintainer
[22:57] <entreri_> OerHeks: thank you, but if they are dead, it is not very helpful
[22:57] <Ben64> cluelesscoder: you could keep track of what gets installed
[22:57] <OerHeks> entreri_, read again.
[22:58] <cluelesscoder> Ben64: OK, I guess I'll do it the hard way...
[22:58] <Jordan_U> cluelesscoder: One option is to boot an Ubuntu LiveCD and run "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop", copy the list of packages that it proposes to install, then feed that list to "sudo apt-get remove". Has some risk of removing packages you do want, but it may help you.
[22:58] <OerHeks> entreri_, the ppa's at the end of the wiki are dead, go to the seamonkey site
[22:58] <entreri_> k1l: oh ok, that answers my question... thank you
[23:00] <cluelesscoder> so recommends are installed by default, and I could just take the list of packages inside the metapackage and feed that to remove... I guess I'll do that
[23:00] <cluelesscoder> although I guess I don't know which ones were not installed because they were already installed because they are necessary to some other program... hence the LiveCD approach I guess
[23:02] <cluelesscoder> I'm surprised someone hasn't come up with a script to automatically save what is installed by a metapackage and allow for it to be rolled back
[23:02] <Ben64> cluelesscoder: or you could just keep track of it :)
[23:02] <bekks> cluelesscoder: remove the meta-package and run "sudo apt-get autoremove" with caution. Done.
[23:03] <Jordan_U> cluelesscoder: That's essentially what autoremove does.
[23:03] <cluelesscoder> bekks: I installed xfce4, removed it, and when I run sudo apt-get autoremove it returns exactly 1 package
[23:03] <cluelesscoder> bekks: meanwhile, I have dozens of xfce4 packages
[23:04] <Jordan_U> cluelesscoder: You could also look at /var/log/dpkg.log to try to find the logs of what other packages were installed when you installed the xfce package.
[23:04] <Tex_Nick> Jordan_U: that brought to mind a question ... anyway to examine what autoremove will currently remove ?
[23:04] <cluelesscoder> Ben64: by piping it to a text file? not even sure the best way to keep track of it
[23:06] <Chuck_Norris> cluelesscoder: may be:  sudo apt-get install xfce4 > list.txt ?
[23:06] <Jordan_U> Tex_Nick: Yes, run "sudo apt-get autoremove" (you don't need to accept it).
[23:07] <Tex_Nick> Jordan_U: I'm banging my head on the wall ... sorry for a stupid question LOL
[23:15] <Randy_O> are the times for the UOS in UTC?
[23:21] <Apachez> Loshki: got any tips regarding speed improvements?
[23:22] <Chuck_Norris> Apachez:  making you kernel use less swap
[23:22] <Apachez> laptop with AMD Quad-Core A10-5745M cpu and AMD Radeon R7 M260 for graphics
[23:22] <Apachez> 1920x1080 desktop
[23:22] <Apachez> reaaaaaaally slow in ubuntu 14.10 with fgxlr driver (from ubuntu)
[23:23] <Apachez> that is with x11vnc
[23:23] <Apachez> went somewhat better with scale 4/5 but still :S
[23:23] <Apachez> so im obviously missing something here?
[23:23] <Apachez> tried ultravnc aswell as viewer so tight can be used
[23:25] <unscarred> good evening
[23:25] <slimjimflim> hi, does anyone know the best way to install ffmpeg on 14.04?  i just read, to my dismay, that "
[23:26] <slimjimflim> 14.04 no longer offers the counterfeit, so-called "ffmpeg". You can simply download a Linux build of ffmpeg (just download, extract, and execute; no installing needed) or follow a step-by-step guide to compile ffmpeg.
[23:26] <Chuck_Norris> Apachez: ubuntu has a remote server called "vino" try that one, type "remote" in the dash
[23:26] <slimjimflim> "  ...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2219550
[23:26] <k1l> slimjimflim: use avconv
[23:26] <slimjimflim> k1l: what happened to ffmpeg?
[23:27] <k1l> slimjimflim: the ffmpeg crew split in half, one is stll ffmpgeg and one is avconv. debian and ubuntu choosed to use avconv.
[23:27] <slimjimflim> k1l: i see.  i am sad.  thanks.
[23:28] <k1l> slimjimflim: no need to be sad. just use avconv, the commands should work the same
[23:28] <slimjimflim> k1l: k, do you know the package name?
[23:28] <slimjimflim> libav-tools?
[23:29] <k1l> yes
[23:29] <slimjimflim> k ty
[23:29] <unscarred> lol
[23:31] <Apachez> Chuck_Norris: does it support reverse connection of current session?
[23:32] <OerHeks> !info gitso
[23:38] <jotterbot> 14.04.1 can someone help me setup raid from scratch?
[23:38] <jotterbot> raid1
[23:44] <area51pilot> i have a new 14.10 install an ASUS flip and Bluetooth is disabled, its an Intel N6235 combo card, wifi works but no BT ... any idea on how to enable? Its not hardware/software blocked