[01:32] <airtonix> anyone else had experience dual booting ubuntu on the latest macbook pro? (comes installed with macosx lion 10.7 and what i think might be bootcamp)
[01:33] <airtonix> refit fails to produce a boot screen, and i can actually get 11.10 live cd running without any modifications to the macbook
[01:34] <airtonix> my next step is to investigate how to resize the main partition to make room for a ubutu install, which is going to be done in terminal most likely since there isn't any available function to resize the main partition
[06:58] <xannen> OMG the queens is in canberra!
[07:40] <gorilla> xannen: You royalist! :-)
[07:41] <xannen> gorilla, actually no.  im' just dramatising. :P
[07:42] <gorilla> xannen, I was being sarcastic. :-D
[07:43] <xannen> I know that too.  It's all sarcasm and I play along.  :D
[07:44] <gorilla> and anyone who wants Australia to become a republic hasn't thought it through. You need to amend just about every law in the country!
[07:45] <xannen> including migration act and 18 carbon tax bills.  :D
[07:45] <xannen> lolz
[07:46] <xannen> and bye bye gillard.
[07:48] <gorilla> xannen: not with the way that Abbott is carrying on. Happy to wreck the economy by repeal the carbon tax.
[07:48]  * gorilla wonders how the heck we got onto politics...    I'm out of here.
[08:20] <airtonix> yay
[08:20] <xannen> yo!
[08:20] <airtonix> finally worked out how to get ubuntu 11.10 on the latest macbookpros
[08:21] <xannen> you need hammer, 9" nails, and 2x4's.  :D
[08:21] <airtonix> had to perform a "disk repair" through the recovery partitions disk utility
[08:21] <airtonix> then i could resize the partition
[08:23] <xannen> you should installed 11.04, more reliable and stable.
[08:25] <xannen> wow ubuntu 8.04 still supported until april, 2013!  so long! (TS).
[08:30] <airtonix> 11.10 is more stable for me actually
[08:30] <airtonix> hot enough today ikt?
[10:00] <xannen> airtonix, i have graphics issues.  :(  and sometimes, when i click on system tray, the pop out menu won't stick, and other minor issues.  :(
[10:01] <xannen> also, there was an openjdk bug.  with dependency on openjdk-6, even though you have openjdk-7 installed.  :S
[11:35] <xannen> hey guys...
[11:35] <xannen> I have technical question. :D
[13:46] <sagaci> does aarnet mirror the security updates for ubuntu or do you have to get them off the main server
[13:59] <ikt> i don't think anyone mirrors security updates
[13:59] <ikt> but I get them off the main server anyway
[13:59] <ikt> sagaci: mainly because of the fast updates
[14:00] <ikt> better to have security updates asap
[14:00] <sagaci> yep, thanks for the info
[14:02] <ikt> sagaci: do you happen to know what the package is called which decrypts dvds?
[14:03] <ikt> heh translation session starting in #ubuntu-classroom
[14:03] <sagaci> ikt: libdvdcss2?
[14:03] <ikt> that's the ticket
[14:04] <sagaci> ikt: do you want to install it?
[14:04] <ikt> does it need mediabuntu?
[14:04] <ikt> can't find it in normal repos
[14:05] <sagaci> ikt: I always install it on a clean install via ubuntu-restricted-extras, but it's a simple script in the libdvdread4 package, if you have that installed, just run sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[14:05] <sagaci> which installs the medibuntu package
[14:06] <ikt> i remember that
[14:06] <ikt> we were talking about it on whirlpool
[14:06] <sagaci> yeah, I remember that path like the back of my hand
[14:07] <ikt> haha nice
[14:07] <ikt> i'll brb just need to restart cuz of updates
[14:44] <sagaci> ikt: how'd it go
[14:50] <ikt> yeah great
[14:50] <ikt> just watching the dvd now
[14:52] <ikt> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005NOOH
[14:52] <ikt> got a few dvds to watch
[14:56] <sagaci> just been troubleshooting a keyboard mapping issue -- finally fixed it with sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration ... since I'm on a server and can't use xmodmap, setxkbmap, etc
[14:56] <sagaci> frustrating but glad it's fixed
[14:58] <ikt> what was happening?
[15:08] <xannen> hi guys
[15:08] <xannen> does anyone have win7/ubuntu dual boot?  what do i do with win7 system reserve  partition?
[15:10] <ikt> xannen: keep it
[15:10] <xannen> oh... okay...  i was going to override it with /boot
[22:18] <Guest16895> Anyone here from Adelaide


[02:15] <LiverWurst> its installed
[02:24] <LiverWurst> what irc client is recommended?
[02:25] <holstein> depends on the need.. the default one will likely work fine for most.. xchat is popular for a GUI one
[02:25] <holstein> i use irssi.. folks use many things..
[02:25] <LiverWurst> im just using what came with xubuntu..think its pigeon
[02:26] <LiverWurst> pidgin :-D
[02:26] <LiverWurst> is bitchx still around?
[02:26] <holstein> if you want a different GUI one, try xchat, then, just try installing some..
[02:26] <holstein> !info bitchx
[02:26] <holstein> https://github.com/BitchX/BitchX1.2/wiki
[02:27] <holstein> if you want that, you'll likey just want irssi, now
[02:28] <LiverWurst> ok ill check irssi
[02:29] <LiverWurst> ive gotta say that the install went really smooth and everything is working great
[02:30] <LiverWurst> only problem im having is a white screen at initial login but i haven't bothered looking into it yet
[02:30] <holstein> at login?
[02:30] <LiverWurst> yea
[02:31] <holstein> anyways, keep in mind, you can have "issues" with driver support, since the hardware doesnt promise you linux support
[02:31] <holstein> also, since, the STO creators dont promise linux support, as well, you may have issues
[02:32] <LiverWurst> was using default video driver initially and then installed the driver from ati. in both instances I had the issue. i might try another login manager
[02:32] <holstein> i wouldnt
[02:33] <holstein> if its literally just white, then, OK. i would simply leave it be, and enjoy the working system, since ATI can be problematic, though, always welcome to provide support.. if they want
[02:33] <LiverWurst> ill have to wait and mess with STO tomorrow
[02:33] <LiverWurst> yea im not buying another laptop with ati
[02:34] <LiverWurst> got nvidia in the gaming rig and it works great
[02:34] <holstein> well, im not buying another machine, new, that doesnt promise me explicit support for the operating system i want to use.. a linux OS
[02:34] <LiverWurst> system76
[02:35] <holstein> thats one option.. i have an older one that still works great.. a P4..
[02:35] <LiverWurst> they just released a new 13" that i want for a devel system that i can take with me to work
[02:36] <LiverWurst> i gotta run..good night
[04:24] <Hongo> hi
[04:24] <Hongo> anyone
[04:25] <ObrienDave> Appropriate time-of-day greetings & Welcome
[04:27] <Hongo> hi ObrienDave
[04:27] <Hongo> does anyone use conky? i've issues with it and idk if is 'cuz xfce or what :/
[04:27] <Hongo> i need some orientation
[04:28] <ObrienDave> i have used it. xfce does not seem to affect it. i have not used conky in many months
[04:29] <Hongo> oh, is wierd 'cuz it actually run and u can see the info displaying in the command prompt, but nothing is the screen
[04:31] <sennn> xfce all i loved
[04:32] <Hongo> xfce rules indeed!
[04:32] <ObrienDave> you dont run conky from command prompt. you set it up to auto start. thats how it uses the screen
[04:33] <Hongo> ikt, i used to have it like that, but it stoped working
[07:53] <ran> when i want to login to the system, sometimes my mouse not working, only after reboot.
[07:56] <ObrienDave> ran, wired mouse?
[07:56] <ran> yws
[07:56] <ran> yes
[07:57] <ObrienDave> I had the same problem, switched to a logitech wireless mouse, problem went away
[07:57] <ObrienDave> you can try unplugging the mouse and back in again
[07:57] <ran> i have a very simple microsoft mouse
[07:57] <ObrienDave> so did i
[07:58] <ObrienDave> I now have a logictech M510 laser. loving it
[07:58] <ran> i tried that too but thats not working.
[07:59] <ran> is this a problem with systemd, or a kernel problem?
[08:01] <ObrienDave> well, my experience is the USB port "goes to sleep", and the wireless mouse keeps waking up the port. the wired mouse would not. i can say about either. i just know the wireless solved my problem
[08:01] <ObrienDave> *I can't say about either
[08:02] <ran> so the problem may be withe the system's powersave system?
[08:03] <ran> i mean power manager
[08:03] <ObrienDave> i don't know that either. just that since i switched to a wireless mouse, i have had no more problems
[08:04] <ran> ok, thank you.
[08:05] <ObrienDave> since the kernel handles the IO for hardware, i suspect the mouse is too old. does not make sense to me
[08:05] <ObrienDave> but those things happen from time to time
[08:06] <ran> this is a new mouse actually.
[08:06] <ObrienDave> hmm, well. like i said i don't really know, sorry
[08:07] <ran> thank you.
[09:49] <pie__> Hey guys, I reinstalled xubuntu on a laptop on which it worked before, but now it freezes a couple seconds after the splash screen
[09:49] <pie__> when i add nosplash instead of splash to the grub kernel params its fine
[09:49] <pie__> what could be the issue?
[12:03] <dzho> have been hassling with this on a *new* install https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1303736
[12:03] <dzho> (14.04)
[12:29] <t0m-> yo, anyone around. was wondering if someone in here has compiled compiz 9.7.12 on 14.04 or found a way to reconfigure compiz to enable extra plugins (snow,brung,explode etc)
[12:29] <t0m-> burn*
[12:29] <t0m-> and if it was stable.
[12:30] <t0m-> well, stable enough <--
[12:55] <pie__> anyone got psensors working so that the menu thats supposed to come up wwhen you click the applet icon comes up?
[12:56] <pie__> its not  working for me
[15:20] <CVG> I cant access root in Xubuntu
[15:20] <CVG> im trying to install a theme and i cant without access to those files
[15:20] <genii> !root
[15:23] <CVG> so i cant install a theme?
[15:25] <genii> Uswe suso
[15:25] <genii> bleh
[15:25] <genii> Use sudo
[15:25] <CVG> with what command?
[16:08] <BuddyButterfly> hi
[16:08] <BuddyButterfly> why does xubuntu not work with spice?
[16:08] <xangua> hi butterfree
[16:09] <xangua> I like more beautifly
[16:09] <BuddyButterfly> when I do change screen resolution, fonts get scambled and background gets black. only vnc works ok with kvm
[16:09] <BuddyButterfly> same with 14.04 and 15.04
[16:09] <holstein> BuddyButterfly: that is spice?
[16:10] <BuddyButterfly> spice for remote desktiop
[16:10] <genii> Spice is also a circuit modelling application
[16:10] <BuddyButterfly> also, splash screen does not work in kvm
[16:10] <BuddyButterfly> genii: also true.
[16:10] <BuddyButterfly> genii: waht is sap?
[16:11] <holstein> BuddyButterfly: nothing about xubuntu/ubuntu/linux will prevent that software from working.. but, if you want remote desktop, try a native linux application that is well supported
[16:11] <holstein> BuddyButterfly: try x2go, splashtop.. etc..
[16:12] <BuddyButterfly> yep, I know. but why does spice not work?
[16:12] <knome> holstein is trying to say he doesn't know
[16:12] <BuddyButterfly> ah
[16:12] <BuddyButterfly> ok.
[16:12] <knome> maybe spice doesn't work with xfce at all?
[16:12] <knome> have you tried if it works with xfce on other distributions?
[16:12] <BuddyButterfly> could be.
[16:12] <knome> maybe it's lightdm that isn't working with spice
[16:13] <holstein> http://www.spice-space.org/download.html
[16:13] <BuddyButterfly> no, it works wit kubntu, though
[16:13] <holstein> they state having a linux version.. is that where you got it, BuddyButterfly ?
[16:13] <knome> spice isn't shipped with xubuntu, so we haven't done much to make it work
[16:13] <holstein> anyways, i use x2go without issue, if the goal is remote desktop, quickly, and working well..
[16:13] <genii> If it's not an application which came from the official repositories, it is not guaranteed to work or even supported by the Xubuntu team. You'd have to contact the developer of the software
[16:13] <BuddyButterfly> it comes from the default repo
[16:13] <knome> if i'm correct, kubunu uses kdm for login mangement
[16:14] <knome> genii, basically, even if it was from the default repository, the xubuntu team might not "support" it in the sense that the team actively made sure it works with a xubuntu installation
[16:15] <BuddyButterfly> but xubuntu is predestined for being run on VMs because of its lower resource usage
[16:15] <knome> BuddyButterfly, if you can figure out what it is that blocks spice from working (lightdm, xfce, ...) then maybe somebody could elaborate with you on the issue
[16:16] <BuddyButterfly> it seems to work with 1024x768...
[16:16] <knome> BuddyButterfly, xubuntu isn't predestined to do anything; and even if you thought like that, the xubuntu team doesn't, and the team does not support $features they do not consider core for xubuntu
[16:17] <BuddyButterfly> sry for listing an adantage of xubunut... will focus on the disadvantages now....
[16:18] <BuddyButterfly> sry for being sarcastic but just wanted to give some compliment to xubuntu....
[16:18] <BuddyButterfly> but even that finds its wrong way....
[16:18] <knome> well, i use xubuntu on modern, high-end PC's
[16:19] <BuddyButterfly> yep, this works nice, also.
[16:19] <knome> so "predestined" is the wrong verb... "works well" is much better ;)
[16:19] <xangua> Loved that movie
[16:19] <BuddyButterfly> but compare to running dozens of VMs with KDE or with xubuntu....
[16:19] <BuddyButterfly> a big difference ;-)
[16:20] <knome> anyway, as i said... if you can figure out why exactly spice isn't working with xubuntu, MAYBE there is something to do
[16:20] <BuddyButterfly> so, what to test? just did a plain xubuntu install of 15.04
[16:21] <knome> i don't know exactly; does it work with ubuntu?
[16:21] <knome> what if you install another login manager for xubuntu?
[16:21] <knome> etc etc
[16:21] <BuddyButterfly> only use kubuntu and xubuntu
[16:21] <holstein> and, it worked under KDE?
[16:21] <BuddyButterfly> yep, it does
[16:21] <holstein> with the *same* kernel, and GPU drivers? etc?
[16:22] <BuddyButterfly> though, boot splash also not working
[16:22] <knome> remote login with any software isn't a core feature of xubuntu at the moment, so much isn't done regarding your issue generally
[16:22] <knome> "boot splash not working" is a known issue for several setups, that isn't critical in any sense
[16:22] <BuddyButterfly> knome: true
[16:22] <knome> (so also very low on the investigate/fix this list)
[16:23] <BuddyButterfly> just wanted to also list it.
[16:23] <holstein> i think i would simply start a bug report, outlining your exact steps.. and link it here, and see if someone can replicate it..
[16:23] <knome> if you want to "list it", then file a bug for it
[16:23] <BuddyButterfly> but seems to be a general issue on all 15.04...
[16:23] <knome> we don't track bugs on this channel
[16:23] <BuddyButterfly> meaning base ubuntu.
[16:23] <holstein> BuddyButterfly: all, but, not on kde/kubuntu?
[16:23] <knome> BuddyButterfly, sure, plymouth is used for ubuntu too
[16:24] <BuddyButterfly> sry for mixing. the boot issue happens with kubuntu and xubuntu.
[16:24] <BuddyButterfly> but this is minor issue.
[16:24] <knome> if spice doesn't work with ubuntu either, then it sounds like something with lightdm, which both ubuntu and xubuntu use (but not kubuntu)
[16:26] <BuddyButterfly> ah, ok, then I will have to test ubuntu also.
[16:26] <BuddyButterfly> or will try to use lightdm
[16:27] <knome> BuddyButterfly, you mean *not* to use lightdm
[16:27] <BuddyButterfly> what is the default?
[16:28] <knome> if you had read what i said, you'd know both ubuntu and xubuntu use lightdm
[16:28] <knome> please pay attention
[16:28] <BuddyButterfly> ok, then the way round.
[16:31] <WyRe> hi guys! i'm trying setup a samba server to share folders with my windows 7 PCs pluged to local network
[16:32] <WyRe> but when i try to acces some windows 7 always ask me WORKGROUP password
[16:32] <WyRe> and i cannot see shared folders from xubuntu in my windows 7 OS :(
[16:32] <knome> !samba | WyRe
[16:33] <knome> have you read guides like those?
[16:33] <holstein> WyRe: sounds like permissions issues.. and, even though, those guides are dated, the process should be similar to set credentials..
[16:34] <knome> !samba
[16:34] <knome> ^ just updated the factoid with more recent stuff
[16:34] <WyRe> mmm i don't have installed CIFS ...
[16:35] <holstein> i iike the tool gigolo as well..
[16:35] <holstein> !info gigolo
[16:35] <WyRe> could be that?
[16:35] <holstein> i find it easy to, point to a share, and input credentials, and try and mount, at least for troubleshooting purposes..
[16:35] <rhode__> Hi All
[16:37] <knome> hello
[16:57] <w30> WyRe, If I remember right the password is generated by the first Windows machine to create the work group. Check the password on that box.
[16:58] <WyRe> w30, here there is more than 5 or 6 PCs, ... i don't know which machine was the first :(
[16:59] <WyRe> but if only i can share a folder from xubuntu with read and write perissions would be enough
[16:59] <WyRe> but i cannot see the folders that i share from xubuntu in W7 :(
[17:00] <WyRe> the xubuntu machine is not appear in w7 local network folder :(
[17:00] <WyRe> and i've done all how tutorials say ...
[17:01] <WyRe> i've installed samba and samba-config even cifs-utils and winbind, i've setup my folder to see it all users... with right permissions...
[17:01] <WyRe> but nothing
[17:01] <WyRe> i cannot get see xubuntu machine in my network :(
[17:01] <w30> WyRe, the other windows will use that password but I don't know how to get it off them. Its cached somewhere.
[17:02] <holstein> WyRe: i'll pull down all firewalls, when its safe to do so, for testing.. i'll make sure i can simply ping the machines from each other.. i'll create a new workgroup, etc.. and make sure i have permissions set as needed
[17:05] <w30> WyRe, I do remember sneakerneting the password back and forth with a peice of scratch paper.
[17:07] <WyRe> w30, i don't care if i cannot acces to W7's folders from xubuntu, i only want share one folder in xubuntu which can be accesible from W7
[17:07] <WyRe> that's all
[17:07] <WyRe> but my w7 pc doen't map my xubuntu machine in the network
[17:08] <WyRe> and i repeat, i think that samba, samba-config, cifs-utils, winbind and all things are installed
[17:08] <WyRe> and folder is correctly shared and permissions is correctly setup and... all things well done :S
[17:09] <WyRe> it's too strange that i cannot see muy xubuntu machine in my w7 :S
[17:09] <WyRe> the shared folder is setup "visible" even :S
[17:11] <BuddyButterfly> WyRe: go with
[17:11] <BuddyButterfly> [transfer]
[17:11] <BuddyButterfly> path = /transfer
[17:11] <BuddyButterfly> comment = Read/Write to Everybody
[17:11] <BuddyButterfly> force group = <your workgroup>
[17:11] <BuddyButterfly> create mode = 0777
[17:11] <BuddyButterfly> writable = yes
[17:11] <BuddyButterfly> guest ok = yes
[17:11] <BuddyButterfly> browseable = yes
[17:11] <BuddyButterfly> restart samba
[17:11] <WyRe> BuddyButterfly, where? xD
[17:12] <WyRe> ok, lol
[17:12] <BuddyButterfly> /etc/samba/smb.conf
[17:12] <WyRe> if i acces form windows with "\\ip_machin_sharing\name_shared_resource" i can acces !!
[17:13] <WyRe> but ... why mu xubuntu machine does not appear in maped network in W7? :S
[17:13] <BuddyButterfly> try it. then you will see
[17:14] <BuddyButterfly> sry, force group does not mean the workgroup. just the unix group for the files....
[17:14] <WyRe> BuddyButterfly, but... are u suggesting me that i should to add that to my smb.conf?
[17:15] <BuddyButterfly> yes
[17:15] <WyRe> i say that because these lines don't apear in my smb.conf
[17:15] <BuddyButterfly> at the end.
[17:15] <BuddyButterfly> and replace the path to the dir you want to share..... and the name. /transfer and [transfer] was just an example
[17:16] <WyRe> BuddyButterfly, but i hace some lines wrotten with muy new shared resource like these .S
[17:16] <WyRe> but before browseable theer is ";"
[17:16] <WyRe> maybe i shoudl delete it? :D
[17:17] <WyRe> BuddyButterfly, what do u think? :D
[17:17] <BuddyButterfly> remove the ;
[17:18] <WyRe> ;D
[17:20] <WyRe> still i cannot see it from W7 :( BuddyButterfly
[17:20] <WyRe> i can acess it but manually
[17:21] <WyRe> writting the ip machine
[17:23] <BuddyButterfly> make sure to have workgroup = <your windows workgroup> in the global section
[17:23] <WyRe> BuddyButterfly, yes, it is ... :S
[17:23] <genii> If the machine is accessible by IP but not by it's network name, check the gateway IP is specified and correct
[17:23] <genii> Also broadcast IP, so that it can announce it's name to the rest of the network
[17:24] <WyRe> BuddyButterfly, capital leters are needed?
[17:24] <BuddyButterfly> for workgroup, no
[17:25] <WyRe> mmm
[17:25] <BuddyButterfly> do you have a windows server in network?
[17:25] <WyRe> then it was correctly in smb.conf but i have rewrited with capital leters anyway
[17:25] <BuddyButterfly> or only win7?
[17:25] <WyRe> there are many PCs, yes
[17:25] <WyRe> not only 2
[17:26] <BuddyButterfly> which is your window share master/domain master?
[17:26] <BuddyButterfly> add them with wins server = <ip of master>
[17:27] <BuddyButterfly> make sure to have name resolve order = wins host lmhosts bcast
[17:27] <WyRe> BuddyButterfly, i think that it was the router
[17:27] <WyRe> BuddyButterfly, i have not that line
[17:27] <BuddyButterfly> name resolve order = wins host lmhosts bcast
[17:27] <WyRe> "name resolve order = wins host lmhosts bcast" i mean
[17:27] <WyRe> i should add it?
[17:28] <BuddyButterfly> you can in global
[17:28] <WyRe> in [general]¿
[17:28] <WyRe> that, global, sorryx D
[17:28] <BuddyButterfly> the check what genii said.
[17:28] <WyRe> genii? xD
[17:29] <BuddyButterfly> check to have security=user
[17:34] <BuddyButterfly> this really should make you go:
[17:34] <BuddyButterfly> writable = yes
[17:34] <BuddyButterfly> guest ok = yes
[17:34] <BuddyButterfly> public = yes
[17:34] <BuddyButterfly> printable = no
[17:34] <BuddyButterfly> share modes = yes
[17:34] <BuddyButterfly> locking = no
[17:34] <BuddyButterfly> browseable = yes
[17:34] <knome> !pastebin | BuddyButterfly
[17:34] <BuddyButterfly> in the folder section
[17:34] <BuddyButterfly> yeah, but this few lines should work ;-)
[17:34] <knome> BuddyButterfly, it doesn't matter.
[17:34] <BuddyButterfly> without using waste bin
[17:36] <BuddyButterfly> or we should try to make the step to the future and use a jabber server ;-)
[17:36] <knome> BuddyButterfly, you are free to do that.
[17:36] <BuddyButterfly> knome: I doo ;-)
[17:37] <knome> BuddyButterfly, fine. when you are on the xubuntu irc channels, please follow the guidelines set for them; when you use jabber, do whatever you want
[17:37] <BuddyButterfly> you know why it is called irc?
[17:37] <BuddyButterfly> cause it gets relayed to nsa.
[17:38] <BuddyButterfly> just a joke. I will follow and obey, no problem.
[17:39] <WyRe> BuddyButterfly, where should i check "security=user" in smbl.conf?
[17:39] <BuddyButterfly> in [global]
[17:39] <genii> WyRe: The main reason with samba not seeing a machine by it's network name but being able to access it by it's IP is that the broadcast IP is not specified on the machine you are trying to reach. so it cannot announce to the rest of the network what the name is it wants to be called by other machines.
[17:40]  * genii wanders back to work for a bit
[17:40] <WyRe> genii, and.. how could i fix taht? xD
[17:40] <BuddyButterfly> check the broadcast parameter
[17:41] <genii> WyRe: If the IP is manually specified at the machine, check there. If the IP is assigned by DHCP, check whatever assigns the IP like router
[17:41] <WyRe> genii, it's assigned by DHCP, yes
[17:41] <WyRe> should i setup it manually?
[17:42] <genii> Some routers assign broadcast address implicitly by the netmask, so might not be a specific place to put Gateway, but make sure the netmask is correct for the range the network is using
[17:43] <WyRe> genii, the netmask it's the same in W7 that in Xubuntu
[17:43] <genii> So if typically <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS> range, netmask would be <IP_ADDRESS>, gateway <IP_ADDRESS> and broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:43] <BuddyButterfly> WyRe: you could set "interfaces = <IP_ADDRESS>/24" or whatever you ip is
[17:43] <WyRe> genii, yes, the netmask is that
[17:44] <BuddyButterfly> samba will know the broadcast address from the netmask.
[17:44] <WyRe> BuddyButterfly, that parameter is setup with "interfaces = <IP_ADDRESS>/8 eth0"
[17:44] <WyRe> and my ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:44] <BuddyButterfly> eth0 should do it.
[17:45] <BuddyButterfly> you could try to set it to <IP_ADDRESS>/24 instead of eth0
[17:45] <WyRe> BuddyButterfly, but im using wifi
[17:45] <WyRe> not ethernet xD
[17:45] <BuddyButterfly> aha
[17:45] <WyRe> 0/24?
[17:45] <WyRe> not better 0/255?
[17:45] <BuddyButterfly> then you will have another interface that eth0?
[17:45] <WyRe> yes
[17:45] <genii> WyRe: It's the opposite with / than with x.x.x.x
[17:45] <WyRe> i have wifi card xD
[17:46] <genii> 24 there means use first 24 bits
[17:46] <WyRe> ahá, ok :D genii :)
[17:46] <genii> Well, actually more like use the bits 24 to 32 a,d the others stay same
[17:46] <WyRe> BuddyButterfly, genii well, but i'm using wlan0 like interface :D
[17:47] <WyRe> should i replace eth0 with wlan0¿
[17:47] <BuddyButterfly> you can try
[17:47] <BuddyButterfly> always restart with "sudo service samba restart"
[17:47] <WyRe> ok :D
[17:48] <BuddyButterfly> you could do "interfaces=" and let samba do it automatically
[17:48] <WyRe> mmm
[17:49] <BuddyButterfly> hmmmm, so you are going to use wifi -> router -> lan interface -> win7?
[17:49] <WyRe> and i should delete ";" before¿
[17:49] <BuddyButterfly> yep always, when enabling.
[17:50] <BuddyButterfly> if you use it like stated above, it will not work because connections are routed. they are differenct broadcast domains and as long as wifi is not bridged you must try other things.
[17:50] <BuddyButterfly> you could try to use the remote announce....
[17:51] <WyRe> BuddyButterfly, yep, i have thought some workaround xD
[17:51] <WyRe> can i set ip manually
[17:51] <BuddyButterfly> "remote announce = <IP_ADDRESS>/<your windows workgroup>
[17:51] <WyRe> and do a shortcut in w7 to resource xD
[17:52] <BuddyButterfly> without the "
[17:52] <holstein> i set manual ip's before starting.. if its my home network,or a network i control
[17:52] <holstein> static ip's that i note
[17:52] <WyRe> BuddyButterfly, nothing, i cannot map the machine xD
[17:53] <BuddyButterfly> WyRe: set this to settings:
[17:53] <WyRe> i have done ur sugestion of "interfaces="
[17:53] <BuddyButterfly> remote announce = <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:53] <BuddyButterfly> and
[17:53] <WyRe> but not works, either :(
[17:53] <holstein> can you ping the machine's from each other?
[17:53] <BuddyButterfly> remote browse sync = <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:53] <BuddyButterfly> then restart samba and nmbd
[17:54] <BuddyButterfly> sudo service nmbd restart
[17:54] <WyRe> holstein, i can accest to shared folder from each other
[17:54] <WyRe> but i cannot map it in networks from W7
[17:54] <holstein> WyRe: so, you can ping the machines from each other?
[17:55] <WyRe> only i cann acces if i type the ip in adress bar
[17:55] <WyRe> yes :D
[17:55] <holstein> they have access to each other? correct?
[17:55] <WyRe> yes
[17:55] <WyRe> but i cannot map the xubuntu machine from w7
[17:55] <holstein> WyRe: that sounds like the way it works.. access via IP, with credentials
[17:55] <WyRe> in networks tab
[17:55] <WyRe> genii, says that could be broadcast issue
[17:55] <BuddyButterfly> holstein: he would like to browse for it.
[17:56] <BuddyButterfly> it is broadcast issue as you are routing and not bridging.
[17:56] <BuddyButterfly> over the router.
[17:56] <BuddyButterfly> try to bridge the wlan interface to the lan interface on the router and you are ready to go. or try the other settings.
[17:56] <BuddyButterfly> i am using them also cross routed VPNs with browsing.
[17:57] <WyRe> BuddyButterfly, i have observed that w7 have an option like "plug network drives"
[17:58] <WyRe> but i woudl need set a fix ip to my ubuntu machine :D
[17:58] <BuddyButterfly> I have that option too, it's calle eSata
[17:58] <WyRe> BuddyButterfly, yep, or dropbox xD or Copy xD
[17:58] <holstein> i set static IP's before getting started.. since, im sharing between OS's that are not the same..
[17:58] <BuddyButterfly> xD
[17:58] <WyRe> i recomend u Copy btw hehe
[18:02] <BuddyButterfly> WyRe: also try security = share
[18:03] <WyRe> BuddyButterfly, yes, that's all done :D
[18:03] <WyRe> so much thanks anyway :D
[18:03] <WyRe> i'll opt for set a static ip :D
[18:04] <holstein> you can also try in #ubuntu and see if anyone uses samba with win7.. or a windows channel, and see if anyone is sharing from linux..
[18:04] <holstein> also, win10 is supposed to ship ssh, so, that may simplify the process, in a few days..
[18:04] <WyRe> holstein, i have tried that xD
[18:04] <holstein> tried what?
[18:05] <BuddyButterfly> shipping win10
[18:05] <BuddyButterfly> :-)
[18:05] <BuddyButterfly> WyRe: do you have wins server = your windows box?
[18:06] <WyRe> no, i think that it's comit it's router comit :D
[18:06] <WyRe> i have no windows server in that net :)
[18:07] <BuddyButterfly> go and read carefully this document https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/ch07.html
[18:07] <BuddyButterfly> especially the chapter about browsing and elections.
[18:08] <WyRe> BuddyButterfly, and ... "remote announce = <IP_ADDRESS>" should i setup with my real static ip?
[18:08] <genii> Normally I'd recommend manpage but smb.conf manpage is dozens and dozens of pages
[18:08] <WyRe> or .255 is what are u suggesting me?
[18:09] <BuddyButterfly> .255 because it is the broadcast ip for /24 nets.
[18:09] <WyRe> mm ok
[18:09] <WyRe> and the same with "remote browse sync = <IP_ADDRESS>"
[18:09] <WyRe> ?
[18:09] <BuddyButterfly> remote browse sync needs separate IP.
[18:09] <BuddyButterfly> did I sate othewise? then it was wrong
[18:10] <BuddyButterfly> you can put your win7 box there
[18:11] <WyRe> BuddyButterfly, but...i have so many w7 machines in my networkx D
[18:11] <WyRe> should i put all of these?
[18:11] <BuddyButterfly> no, I wouldn't.
[18:11] <WyRe> them*
[18:11] <BuddyButterfly> leave the remote sync away.
[18:11] <holstein> i would just choose one, and make the sharing happen there.. and move on after you get that working..
[18:12] <WyRe> ok
[18:12] <WyRe> only try with remote announce :)
[18:13] <WyRe> in my [shared_resource] inside smb.conf, aint it?
[18:13] <BuddyButterfly> no, in global
[18:13] <WyRe> mm ok .D
[18:13] <WyRe> and "security=share" also?
[18:14] <holstein> thats what i remember reading as being suggested to you above ^
[18:15] <BuddyButterfly> yep
[18:16] <BuddyButterfly> WyRe: you should know which machine is your domain master on the lan
[18:16] <BuddyButterfly> you can also set the ip of your windows box to remote announce, if it does not change
[18:17] <BuddyButterfly> normally you would have a domain master and remote announce to it.
[18:17] <WyRe> BuddyButterfly, the router, i think
[18:17] <BuddyButterfly> what router?
[18:17] <BuddyButterfly> do you have control over it?
[18:17] <WyRe> yes
[18:17] <BuddyButterfly> then you should make the router the domain master
[18:18] <WyRe> in smb.conf? do u mean?
[18:20] <WyRe> BuddyButterfly, o.. i'm whaching now that xubuntu broadcast ip is finished in .255 xD
[18:41] <xubuntu646> Anyone here?
[18:42] <holstein> yes.. just ask , if you have a question, and a volunteer may assist..
[18:43] <xubuntu646> sorry...trying to update the additional drivers to be able to select "using video drivers for the amd graphics accelerator from fglrx"  currently not choosable.
[18:44] <holstein> it may not support your device
[18:44] <holstein> !amd
[18:44] <holstein> !ati
[18:44] <holstein> did it work in the past, with a proprietary driver? with an older version of ubuntu?
[18:45] <xubuntu646> seems like this is a bug or something.  thinking an update would fix this
[18:45] <mrkramps> xubuntu646, what's your graphic card's model?
[18:46] <xubuntu646> 7950
[18:50] <xubuntu646> In xfce - how do I update 12.10 to latest?
[18:50] <holstein> well, that would be the same as main ubuntu 12.10.. but, the easiest is going to be a fresh install
[18:50] <holstein> !eolupgrade
[18:51] <holstein> what would i do? download the live installation iso for 14.04, and/or 15.04, and try them live on my hardware, and see if the GPU supports either of them better..
[18:54] <xubuntu646> ok - thanks - im a linux noob and was hoping for an easy update of OS, but looks like I'll have to figure out a reinstall
[18:54] <holstein> well, it would have been easier, before going EOL
[18:54] <holstein> but, the upgrade path, even if its not EOL, is incremental.. so, 12.10, to 13.04, to 13.10 to 14.04..
[18:55] <holstein> then, from 14.04, that is a long term support release, that one can use for years..
[18:55] <xubuntu646> so just create an iso on a regular usb jumpdrive and boot from this?
[18:55] <holstein> xubuntu646: correct.. thats what i would do, download, and create a live iso, either CD/DVD or USB, and boot, and simply test the GPU and other hardware
[18:55] <holstein> i would make a proper backup of my data, regardless.. before starting
[18:56] <mrkramps> but 14.04 is only real LTS when using 14.04.1 for installation
[18:56] <mrkramps> otherwise the Hardware Enablement Stacks are already enabled
[18:56] <holstein> i dont know what that means, but the 14.04 repos are up for 5 years. with xubuntu specific support for 3 years
[18:57] <holstein> i say, if you want to sit on an installatiion for years, and not mess with it, use the 14.04 LTS..
[18:57] <mrkramps> 14.04.2 already ships with vivid kernel and xserver which should be EOL now
[18:57] <mrkramps> requires an upgrade to utopic kernel and xserver
[18:57] <mrkramps> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[18:59] <xubuntu646> so I would not go straight to 15.04
[18:59] <holstein> xubuntu646: you can.. but, correct.. you wont easily upgrade the 12.10 version you have to anything
[18:59] <mrkramps> xubuntu646, you may use 15.04, but this would require a version upgrade to 15.10 in october
[19:00] <holstein> 15.04 is not an LTS release, and, since you are runing 12.10, now, i say, use 14.04.. since, you seem to want to install, and sit on the install.. which is fine
[19:00] <xubuntu646> yes.  14-04 then... off to reinhstall linux.  wish me luck.
[19:00] <holstein> xubuntu646: cheers..
[19:01] <holstein> test *before* installation.. make sure its what you need..
[19:02] <xubuntu646> im repuposing an old gpu miner.  trying to make it mine ether - which is apparently  a tough build and dependent on updated linux.
[19:03] <holstein> its dependent on GPU drivers
[19:03] <holstein> which, will depend on how well the company that creates intends linux support
[19:03] <xubuntu646> im hoping their mining software supports gpu
[19:03] <holstein> hope wont do it
[19:03] <holstein> it'll literally be driver support.. either there, or not..
[19:04] <holstein> but, this has nothing to do with xubuntu or xfce, so, you can use a more general, and poplulous linux channel, or the main #ubuntu channel.. or a mining community
[19:05] <holstein> i would, if GPU driver support was key, use whatever is the "best" driver for the hardware.. and use the OS that the driver is made for..
[19:05] <holstein> if you want to make a desktop machine, xubuntu is a great choice..
[19:05] <xubuntu646> ok thnks for allowing me some advice here.
[19:05] <mrkramps> xubuntu646, did you mention it to be a chromebook?
[19:06] <holstein> i think its older than that..
[19:06] <xubuntu646> no its an older mining rig...originally mined litecoin
[19:07] <mrkramps> ok, sry … obviously i read something about chromebook in another channel
[19:07] <mrkramps> my fault!
[19:08] <mrkramps> btw. radeon HD 7xxx should be much better supported in 14.04
[19:08] <mrkramps> than in 12.04
[19:08] <mrkramps> including power management and video acceleration
[19:09] <mrkramps> this for the free radeon driver while fglrx is of course available in a more recent version
[19:10] <xubuntu646> thnks again...c ya
[20:21] <xubuntu22w> hello all, I'm trying to install xubuntu 14.04.2 on my netbook using a Live USB
[20:21] <xubuntu22w> I decided to check disk for defects and every time it finds 1 error
[20:21] <xubuntu22w> has anyone experienced this behavior
[20:22] <holstein> i have.. when i had a problem in the chain somewhere.. a bad stick, or iso download etc..
[20:22] <holstein> !md5
[20:23] <holstein> i would check the sum of the downloaded iso.. then, i would dd copy again, and check the ingerity..
[20:23] <xubuntu22w> I did verify the MD5 checksum of the ISO I downloaded and it's fine
[20:23] <holstein> if i cant get that one to check, i may try the mini..
[20:23] <holstein> !mini
[20:25] <xubuntu22w> I'm currently formatting the USB drive and will try it again, if issue persists I'll try the minimal CD image
[20:27] <xubuntu22w> is there a way to do checksum after creating USB drive on Universal USB Installer?
[20:35] <holstein> xubuntu22w: the ingegrity check, that you say is failing
[20:35] <holstein> xubuntu22w: i suggest, dd copy the iso..