[14:38] <sticky1> how do I recover a folder in Xubuntu on ext4?
[14:38] <sticky1> accidentally deleted something very important
[14:39] <ubuntu-newb> hi all
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Tinybird: its completely unsupported in any way you can think off
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> *of
[14:40] <llutz> sticky1: you may try photorec/testdisk or extundelete
[14:40] <DJones> !recover | sticky1
[14:40] <sticky1> ok
[14:42] <Tinybird> ActionParsnip: Fortunately, I can still get packages from oldrelease
[14:43] <sticky1> ok appearantly at that site they want me to recover the file with foremost to usb disc lol. is it dangerous to recover to same disc? will the clusters to recover be overwritten by the recovered ones or something?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Tinybird: i'd just move on up to a supported release
[14:44] <ironfoot495> cant seem to get libreoffice on 10.04 can someone show me how?
[14:45] <DJones> sticky1: If you're using the file system that the deleted files are on, any disk access that happens could overwrite the deleted data, its better to use a livecd and then recover to USB
[14:45] <pangur> I stupidly did ... sudo apt-get remove perl.  I have stopped it fairly late on in the process.  I have tried to do ... sudo apt-get install perl but I get a message saying that var/lib/dpkg/lock is unavailable.
[14:45] <pangur> How do I get my puter restored.
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> !info libreoffice lucid
[14:45] <sticky1> ok
[14:45]  * pangur looks panicky
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> ironfoot495: let me find a ppa
[14:45] <Tinybird> ActionParsnip: There are so many programs working very well on my machine. I'm worried about whether it will still run so fluently if I update
[14:45] <ironfoot495> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[14:46] <pangur> How do I disable dpkg lock?
[14:46] <jrib> pangur: perl probably took so much stuff out with it...
[14:46]  * pangur quivers
[14:46] <sticky1> aargh my disk is 75 gb and now process foremost is scanning this all... i don't have the time to wait
[14:47] <jrib> pangur: how did you stop it?
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> ironfoot495: sudo add-apt-repositoy ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-3-5; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[14:47] <pangur> ctrl -z
[14:47] <jrib> pangur: that just pauses it
[14:47] <pangur> oh
[14:47] <pangur> How do I stop it then?
[14:47] <jrib> pangur: if you type « jobs » you should still see something listed
[14:48] <pangur> [1]+  Stopped                 sudo apt-get remove perl
[14:48] <Tinybird> pangur: Ctrl -c can interrupt it directly.
[14:48] <pangur> so, should I run it again and then do ctrl-c?
[14:49] <Tinybird> pangur: yes
[14:49] <AdvoWork> there is a bug, which says "This bug was fixed in the package mountall - 2.25"  how do i get that current package? its for ubuntu 10.04 server
[14:50] <sticky1> too complicated, used scalpel
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> !ppa AdvoWork
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> sticky1: if you had backups, you wouldn't need to do this. Why do you not have a backup?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | AdvoWork
[14:51] <ironfoot495> ActionParsnip: add-apt-repositoy: command not found
[14:51] <pangur> http://fpaste.org/OXdt/ shows my terminal output
[14:51] <sticky1> ActionParsnip: I was about to make a backup while deleting old files... accidentally deleted minecraft gamesaves :S
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> ironfoot495: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties:
[14:51] <pangur> That was after doing the ctrl-c
[14:51] <ironfoot495> Tghhat's the problem Ive been having just wont install for some reason.
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> sticky1: oh jeez
[14:52] <ironfoot495> ActionParsnip: oh ok!
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> ironfoot495: lucid desktop is EOL in April, why not install a newer release....
[14:53] <vl4kn0> Hi, when I attempt to open software centre I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1275045/
[14:53] <[twisti]> hi, on my new ubuntu server lts 12, when i log in, i am not informed about new updates/patches available via apt. back on my lts 10 server, it used to always list available updates. what setting/software causes this ?
[14:53] <jrib> pangur: fg will bring your stopped job to the foreground where then you can try to ctrl-c... and then hope you can undo whatever it's done
[14:53] <pangur> jrib and Tinybird, http://fpaste.org/OXdt/ is the output after doing ctrl-c.  Any suggestion, please, as to how I might  proceed from here?
[14:53] <ironfoot495> ActionParsnip: which one would you suggest?
[14:54] <simplew> in grub the field about booting into the distro point to a UUID that is the one of the /boot partition, shouldnt be using the UUID of the root partition?
[14:54] <ubuntu-newb> after having installed ubuntu 12.04 i made a partition NTFS for a windows installation, and now only windows start. Any help?
[14:55] <paulens12> you need to install windows FIRST to dual boot
[14:55] <ubuntu-newb> at the moment im on a 12.04 live
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: if you run:    /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available     are you told?
[14:55] <pangur> jrib - it seems to be working
[14:55]  * pangur is praying hard
[14:55] <paulens12> windows modifies BIOS... or something like that xD
[14:56] <ubuntu-newb> can't do anything? need to format ALL partitions?
[14:56] <[twisti]> ActionParsnip: thanks, i just read on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdates that i have to install that ;)
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1275049
[14:56] <[twisti]> ah uhm
[14:56] <[twisti]> 1 upgraded, 169 newly installed
[14:56] <paulens12> ubuntu-newb, just install ubuntu again
[14:56] <[twisti]> that seems to depend on a lot of things
[14:56] <paulens12> and it should work
[14:56] <Tinybird> ubuntu-newb: windows may override the boot pointer over grub
[14:57] <ubuntu-newb> wtf i installed tons of things on ubuntu
[14:57] <ubuntu-newb> Tinybird, any chance to restore grub_
[14:57] <[twisti]> so is this rpm hell ?
[14:57] <paulens12> ubuntu-newb, you can copy the files out and thenb ack into ubuntu
[14:57] <[twisti]> im worried im making a huge mistake if i ok this
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: no, ubuntu uses deb
[14:57] <[twisti]> deb hell then
[14:57] <ubuntu-newb> paulens12, can u show me how?
[14:58] <paulens12> ...
[14:58] <pangur> What I am wondering is whether to reinstall perl is enough to stop my ubuntu from being broken, jrib?
[14:58] <djbpython> how do i set up a tunnel via a remote host so that i can hit my localhost? like http://www.myserver.com:3001 should really request http://localhost:3001
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: no dep hell is when you need to scour the web to satisfy deps
[14:58] <pangur> It claims that it has reinstalled perl
[14:58] <ubuntu-newb> i mean, which files are u talking about?
[14:58] <jrib> pangur: no, it's not.  You should go look at everything that was removed and reinstall it
[14:58] <paulens12> copy usr and root folders
[14:58] <paulens12> and idk
[14:58] <paulens12> ask someone else
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: then find that that too has deps you need to satisfy
[14:58] <paulens12> i"m new here too xd
[14:58] <pangur> Thanks, jrib.
[14:58] <[twisti]> http://pastebin.com/4Hdf5V8y is this a good idea to ok ? i never had anything ask for so much crap to install, especially not something so simple, im a bit worried that itll mess up my system
[14:59] <Tinybird> ubuntu-newb: a little bitter. I just know the principle not the specifics.
[15:00] <paulens12> ubuntu-newb, copy usr... programs are stored in it...
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: well yeah, that will install the whole gnome desktop for you
[15:00] <[twisti]> i really dont want that
[15:00] <[twisti]> its a headless system
[15:00] <[twisti]> so was the old one, and the old one had those notifications on login
[15:00] <ubuntu-newb> paulens12, no chances i will format my ubuntu if i can just fix grub
[15:00] <paulens12> lol
[15:01] <pangur> There are loads and loads of lib* type progs that have been uninstalled.  Is there a way that I can reinstall them without having to go through them manually, jrib?
[15:01] <paulens12> then windows won't run
[15:01] <paulens12> x
[15:01] <paulens12> D
[15:01] <paulens12> xD
[15:01] <FloodBot1> paulens12: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:01] <ubuntu-newb> i dont care then
[15:01] <paulens12> lol
[15:01] <paulens12> well your choise...
[15:01] <paulens12> but i think windows is better for everyday use
[15:01] <ubuntu-newb> i mean, i prefer to have my ubuntu back
[15:01] <paulens12> lol
[15:01] <paulens12> dude
[15:01] <paulens12> have both
[15:01] <FloodBot1> paulens12: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:01] <bazhang> !behelpful | paulens12
[15:01] <paulens12> reinstall ubuntu and you'll have both
[15:01]  * pangur is using the windows-installed version of ubuntu
[15:01] <poglesbyg> I've installed ubuntu on my desktop and where it should show the apps running on the left side of the screen it is just blank
[15:02] <poglesbyg> how can i fix this?
[15:02] <jrib> pangur: try just making sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed (if you're using a standard ubuntu install)
[15:02] <poglesbyg> how do i check that?
[15:03]  * pangur is reinstalling ubuntu-desktop
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> poglesbyg: tried Unity2D session?
[15:04] <pangur> I uninstalled perl because I could not get eclipse to recognise that it was present.
[15:05] <pangur> However, I did not realise that uninstalling perl would take half my system with it.
[15:05] <ubuntu-newb> no one can help me with the boot problem?
[15:05] <pangur> Is ubuntu built on perl?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-newb: you can use a chroot from liveCD if you need to manipulate / reinstate grub
[15:05] <jrib> pangur: perl is used in very many places, I'm sure
[15:06] <sticky1> I'm about to grab my laptop, pour some petrol over it, burn it, send it to NASA where they send it into space to send the remains of it in a supernova while shooting an atombomb at it because it is TOO DIFFICULT to recover one single file, isn't there any recoverytool with a gui?
[15:06] <ubuntu-newb> ActionParsnip, im actually from a liveCD, but i don't know what to do
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-newb: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[15:06] <pangur> I have now restored ubuntu-desktop, it tells me.
[15:07] <[twisti]> damn, where does 90-updates-available come from ?
[15:07] <ubuntu-newb> i will check it ActionParsnip, thanks
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> sticky1: just let foremost run overnight, you can inspect your writable partition in the morning. Again, backups will have saved you this grief
[15:07] <pangur> Anything else apart from restoring ubuntu-desktop that I need to do, please, jrib?
[15:07] <jrib> [twisti]: why?  dpkg -S /path/to/file   will tell you where file is from
[15:07] <alejandro> try deleting python in debian. debian will be broken.
[15:07] <Tinybird> pangur: perl is ultra important on any unix-like systems.
[15:08] <jrib> pangur: well if it was me, I'd go read the scrollback and see what apt removed exactly.  Then copy those packages and explicitly install them again
[15:08] <[twisti]> jrib: thanks
[15:08] <pangur> Thanks, Tinybird.
[15:08] <ubuntu-newb> ActionParsnip, how i can check which /dev/sdX is my ubuntu partition?
[15:08] <[twisti]> jrib: for some reason, update-notifier seems to depend on the entire gnome desktop
[15:08] <sticky1> ActionParsnip: I need to restore one single folder and its contents, just this. Why is this so difficult on linux?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: /etc/update-motd.d   just like my pastebin shows
[15:08] <[twisti]> which on a headless server is obviously a bad idea
[15:08] <Joe_CoT> so for some reason after the latest firefox update, unity doesn't recognize that firefox is launched, and my task switcher lists it as "Minefield 3.5 Web Browser". I haven't had Minefield installed in quite some time, and I removed the menu entry for it, but same thing. any idea what gives?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> sticky1: its the same in Windows
[15:08] <pangur> Thanks jrib.
[15:08] <[twisti]> ActionParsnip: i dont understand what youre trying to say
[15:09] <[twisti]> its nice that you have those files
[15:09] <sticky1> ActionParsnip: No you had this program Recuva and that was a super nice program to use
[15:09] <[twisti]> but how does that help me ?
[15:09]  * pangur is printing out his scrollback
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> sticky1: why because it used a mouse instead of typing stuff?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: its the location of the script.
[15:09] <badboy007> Ciao a Tutti
[15:09] <sticky1> ActionParsnip: yes actually, I'm not into console-programs
[15:09] <jrib> sticky1: well it's difficult because when you say "delete this file instead of put this file in a place where I can restore it", linux will do what you ask.  See ubottu's !recover factoid for your options and take this as a lesson to always have backups for things you care about
[15:09] <[twisti]> ActionParsnip: yes, on your pc. do you suggest that i refence the file on your pc via ftp ? or email them to me ?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> sticky1: console is where a lot of linux's power lives. You can do stuff the GUI dreams of doing and easily
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: I already cat'd the files, so you have the contents....
[15:11] <[twisti]> well im not actually going to just copy and paste someone elses files into my pristine system
[15:11] <[twisti]> i just wanted to know where they came from
[15:11] <sticky1> jrib: Look, I deleted the saves folder right from Minecraft. I thought it would take it to the bin, not to remove it permanently!
[15:11] <[twisti]> luckily i found them on my old system and did what jrib told me
[15:11] <[twisti]> they were from update-notifier-common
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: isn't it the same as me sending you the file?
[15:11] <[twisti]> yes, it is, it wasnt a serious suggestion
[15:11] <sticky1> jrib: And that by accident, I deleted the wrong world
[15:11] <jrib> sticky1: you used rm?
[15:12] <sticky1> jrib: no look I deleted the save folder right fromout Minecraft: http://images.wikia.com/creepypasta/images/c/c5/Minecraft-Diary-31-World-Delete.jpg
[15:12] <[twisti]> by the way, thanks jrib ;)
[15:12] <Iszak> How can I purge my Macbook Air of which is known as Mountain Lion and only install Ubuntu, I know there's guides to use bootcamp, but I want to remove ML.
[15:12] <[twisti]> its all working as it should now
[15:13] <sticky1> jrib: With every second waiting, chances are greater the overwritable folder has been overwritten with new temporary stuff
[15:13] <jrib> sticky1: if you're still using the partition for some reason, yeah
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> sticky1: boot to liveCD and you can work on the unmounted partition
[15:14] <jrib> yes, do as ActionParsnip says
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> sticky1: its goingto take time, plus you will need a fairly large destination partition to spit all the found files to, then hope the file you want hasn't got damaged in some way
[15:14] <ncfi1013__> VIDEO_TS.BUP, VIDEO_TS.IFO, VIDEO_TS.VOB, VTS_01_0.BUP, VTS_01_0.IFO, VTS_01_0.VOB...who can tell me how to properly burn these files to a dvd so its playable?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013__: how did you get these files?
[15:15] <sticky1> jrib: I appreciate the help but am too lazy to do all that...  Hey, I didn't know Minecraft would delete worlds permanently and I didn't think there was a way of recovering a single folder. But thanks for the help.
[15:15] <sticky1> Gotta go now
[15:15] <sticky1> Bye
[15:16] <jrib> sticky1: make routine backups :)
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> jrib: been saying it for years
[15:16] <jrib> ActionParsnip: alas, I also learned the hard way many years ago
[15:16] <sticky1> ok
[15:16] <llutz> ncfi1013__: "growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video path/to/dir/containing/those/files"
[15:16] <sticky1> ncfi1013__: there was some software which automated all that for you
[15:16] <ncfi1013__> ActionParsnip__: i opened the disc in a file manager
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> jrib: seen loads of people burned, its quick and easy :)
[15:17] <sticky1> ncfi1013__: i think it is in the ubuntu software center
[15:17] <sticky1> t
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013__: then you have the DVD. Are you wanting to make a copy?
[15:17] <ncfi1013__> i know i have the dvd already
[15:18] <ncfi1013__> what i want i want to know is if i download those files from a p2p site how do i burn to disc so its playable
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013__: we don't support piracy here
[15:19] <paulens12> ncfi1013__, use linux live usb creator tool
[15:19] <Safa_[A_boy]> hi, how can I extract a b6i file ?
[15:19] <paulens12> ActionParsnip, it's not piracy. p2p is 100% legal in most of countries
[15:20]  * pangur is restoring eclipse - 112MB
[15:20] <jackdup> can anybody here help with samba?
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> jackdup: in what way?
[15:21] <jackdup> ActionParsnip, I have it set up with multiple shares but I can't connect to it remotely
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> jackdup: can you ping the server?
[15:21] <jackdup> i can list all the shares using smbclient command locally
[15:21] <ncfi1013__> how would i burn those files with k3b?
[15:22] <jackdup> ActionParsnip, yes but I have in bound to a tap device. can't ping htat
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> jackdup: when you run:  smbtree   do you see the server and it's shares (from another system)?
[15:22] <jackdup> ActionParsnip, nope. I can see others. It seems like it isn't broadcasting
[15:22] <llutz> ncfi1013__: "new Projet - video-dvd"  then put all those files into the given "VIDEO_TS" folder
[15:23] <Hanif> anyone well versed in configuring VPN access on an ASA?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: seems to be a BlindWrite Ver. 6 file
[15:23] <Safa_[A_boy]> yes ^_^
[15:23]  * pangur has 5minutes and 10 seconds to wait
[15:24] <ncfi1013__> ok...thats simple...but what is the reason for the AUDIO_TS file?
[15:24]  * pangur is scared his machine will be kaput but, atm, it is working.
[15:24] <bazhang> !ot > pangur
[15:24] <llutz> ncfi1013__: just compatibility, its empty on video-dvds
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> jackdup: then you need to sort that first, is there a firewall on it?
[15:25] <pangur> sorry, bazhang.
[15:25] <ncfi1013__> llutz__: thanks for your help
[15:25] <llutz> ncfi1013__: it is used for this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Audio
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: if you just loop mount it like any other disk image, does it mount?
[15:26] <jackdup> no. I can connect to the machine in every other way (ie ssh, openvpn etc...) but samba  just won't broadcast
[15:26] <Safa_[A_boy]> it open with gedit !
[15:26] <Safa_[A_boy]> only
[15:27] <Safa_[A_boy]> so I can't mount it :'(
[15:27] <ncfi1013__> oh i have another question...the swap...put it in the beginning, middle, or end for better performance?
[15:27] <jackdup> ActionParsnip, no. I can connect to the machine in every other way (ie ssh, openvpn etc...) but samba  just won't broadcast
[15:28] <ncfi1013__> i put it in the middle and my computer occasionally freezes and the mouse seems to always be sticky
[15:29] <llutz> ncfi1013__: on modern harddisks the position of swap won't really matter, the differences are marginal
[15:30] <ncfi1013__> on a sata 40gb?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> jackdup: could ask in #samba  they can check your config some
[15:30] <llutz> ncfi1013__: that is modern :)
[15:31] <llutz> ncfi1013__: i doubt that those freezes are swap-related
[15:31] <ncfi1013__> how big should the swap be? 2 or 4 gb? mines 4gb...i think that may also be a problem
[15:31] <paulens12> how much ram do you have?
[15:32] <jackdup> ActionParsnip, nobody answering there .. I don't have to configure smb.conf on the client end do I?
[15:32] <llutz> ncfi1013__: the size only matters if you want to use hibernation /suspend to disk/
[15:32] <ncfi1013__> 4gb paulens12
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> jackdup: thats the way I always do it personally
[15:32] <paulens12> then get 8GB swap
[15:32] <jackdup> ActionParsnip, thanks man. I'll give that a try
[15:33] <compdoc> jackdup, what are you using for clients? What os?
[15:33] <bazhang> paulens12, thats not good advice
[15:33] <ncfi1013__> a friend of mine suggests only 2gb swap
[15:33] <pangur> Is there a test that would indicate to me whether my ubuntu is still working properly or not?
[15:33] <jackdup> compdoc, all ubuntu 12.04
[15:34] <llutz> ncfi1013__: are you using hibernation? if not, 1-2GB are more than fine. if yes,  you'll need a bit more than 4GB
[15:34] <pangur> My impression is that all is well but I am afraid that if I switch off it will be gone and that I shall not be able to restore.
[15:34] <IdleOne> ncfi1013__: 4GB swap is good.
[15:34] <compdoc> jackdup, do you have samba installed on the clients?
[15:34] <ncfi1013__> i use hibernation sometimes...only when it rains
[15:34] <Rains> hmm?
[15:34] <jackdup> compdoc, yea but I haven't touched the conf file on the clients. I didn't think it was necessary
[15:35] <compdoc> jackdup, I do the same thing so they can use a windows network. I dont touch the conf files either, although you might want to set the workgroup name
[15:36] <kiniex> Hi
[15:36] <mr-rich> This is probibly OT, but I want to use expr in a shell script to find the first character in a string that might have white space in front of it and return the index. Any ideas?
[15:37] <ncfi1013__> to all...thanks for your help...bye
[15:37] <Safa_[A_boy]> ActionParsnip, sry :(
[15:37] <jackdup> compdoc, workgroup is set. just checked that. I have to be missing something really simple stupid. everything seems in place
[15:38] <basil_0> hello
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: sup?
[15:38] <basil_0> clear
[15:38] <basil_0> 有人在马
[15:39] <Safa_[A_boy]> what do you mean ?!
[15:39] <BluesKaj> !cn | basil_0
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> mr-rich: ask in #bash too :)
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> mr-rich: ask in #bash too
[15:41] <islandmonkey> Hello, anybody know how a fix a signature problem with apt? After (stupidly) clearing the apt cache using Ubuntu Tweak, it obviously messed up with the keys associated with the repos. This now means that some ppa's and the universe repo is broken. Anybody know how to fix it (re-adding the keys didn't work as you suggested yesterday, ActionParsnip)?
[15:41] <fnord`> How can I see/change the default fonts in unity on 12.10? I was told about 'myunity' but I could not locate that package in ubuntu software center and the PPA did not work.
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> fnord`: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Quantal support please
[15:42] <IdleOne> fnord`: How did the PPA not work?
[15:44] <fnord`> IdleOne: I will be in #ubuntu+1
[15:44] <Safa_[A_boy]> ActionParsnip, what is "sup" ?!!!
[15:45] <Safa_[A_boy]> + what about me? sry for annoying :"(
[15:45] <islandmonkey> ActionParnsip: http://pastebin.com/mjGE3Dbv
[15:47] <mgodzilla> how would i go 'bout changin' the default browser for weblinks for thunderbird.
[15:47] <mgodzilla> usin' lxde.
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: just wondering why you were saying sorry. sup == what's up?
[15:47] <Safa_[A_boy]> sorry for annoying you :P
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> mgodzilla: https://hsmak.wordpress.com/2009/09/03/howto-force-thunderbird-to-open-links-in-firefox/
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: there was no annoyance :)
[15:48] <Safa_[A_boy]> ^___^
[15:49] <mgodzilla> thank you ActionParsnip :)
[15:50] <vl4kn0> why do I get this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1275115/
[15:51] <islandmonkey> vl4kn0: I have the same problem
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: let me check
[15:51] <sud_> how to get qualcomm me102 working on linux ...
[15:52] <sud_> tata photon+ connection
[15:53] <MaskilPDX> Good Morning
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> MaskilPDX  other timezone
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: http://pastie.org/5044711
[15:53] <KsM> dist-upgrading ubuntu from 10.04. Go to 10.10 then 11.04 or straight to 11.04?
[15:53] <MaskilPDX> YeahRight, sorry
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: it's the same command, just changing the key to the ones you gave in your pastebin
[15:54] <MaskilPDX> yes.  I'm on the western part of the US
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: I have it in a script called get key with the  usual bash head line then: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com $1
[15:55] <islandmonkey> ActionParsnip: Still coming up with the same errors after running that
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: did all the keys import ok?
[15:56] <islandmonkey> ActionParsnip: Yes, they did.
[15:57] <genii-around> KsM: 10.04 with do-release-upgrade should take you to 12.04
[15:57] <KsM> ok
[15:57] <KsM> I tried that before and got some error, but I'll try again.
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> KsM  fresh install is the fastest, easiest and most efficient - backup first if you do ot have a separate /home
[15:58] <genii-around> KsM: Should make sure you have all PPA disabled, just use stock repositories
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> not*
[15:59] <Safa_[A_boy]> hi, how can I extract a b6i file ?
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> Safa_[A_boy]  what b6i ?
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> what's
[16:00] <KsM> I just installed 10.04 yesterday and tried the do-release-upgrade, didn't work so I ran apt-get update;apt-get upgrade over night and now I'm trying again
[16:00] <Safa_[A_boy]> a BlindWrite Ver. 6 file
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> KsM  that upgrades everything inside the installation, it does upgrade to a new release
[16:01] <islandmonkey> Safa_[A_boy]: Appears to be impossible (the software to open it is Windows only)
[16:01] <islandmonkey> Unless you have Windows, of course
[16:02] <Safa_[A_boy]> ok :"""(
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> Safa_[A_boy]  submit it is an idea in !brainstorm
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: or don't use blindwrite :)
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> blindwrite sounds like something for blind people, no?
[16:05] <islandmonkey> ^lol
[16:06] <Sparadrap> Need Some help, after telecharging and install xubuntu software, how to use it  ?
[16:06] <islandmonkey> ActionParsnip: Any ideas?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: remove the PPAs then readd is allI can suggest
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Sparadrap: use what?
[16:07] <theadmin> Sparadrap: What do you mean? You use it like you'd use any other OS, like Windows or Mac. Also, the term is "downloading". The french support is in #ubuntu-fr
[16:07] <Sparadrap> ok thanks, to use xfce on my ubuntu
[16:07] <hilo> hello I am trying to write a script to do some stuff for me and I can't get a string to manipulate the way I need. Can someone assist? The full string is (quotes are part of the string): "asdfas dfasdf" {asdfasdf-asdf-asdf-asdf-asdfasdfasdf}
[16:07] <islandmonkey> ActionParsnip: But what about the stock repo?
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Sparadrap: thats fine, use it as you would any OS, use the menus and you will see applications you can run and use
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: you don't need keys for those
[16:08] <theadmin> Sparadrap: Oh that. You "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" OR "sudo apt-get install xfce4", after which you log out, click the weird gear thingy, and choose "Xfce" out of the list.
[16:08] <hilo> I tried this ${variable%pattern} but I can't get it to remove the part between the {*}
[16:08] <Sparadrap> ok thanks
[16:08] <theadmin> hilo: What do you want to do with the string exactly?
[16:08] <islandmonkey> ActionParsnip: But there is an error with one of the stock repos
[16:09] <dell2012> how can i resize swap and extended partitions in my sda using commands in console commands?
[16:09] <hilo> theadmin, it is output from a command to show me what VM's are currently running. It gives the name and uuid.. I need to pass JUST the name to the vboxmanage command to shut off the vm gracefully
[16:10] <hilo> theadmin, so it is like this "NAME" {uuid}
[16:10] <hilo> theadmin, I need to strip off the {uuid} / parse out the name
[16:11] <Sparadrap> there was two weeks, RIchard Stallman cames to my school to do a meeting
[16:11] <poglesbyg> i'm having some difficulty installing  java 64 here is the code http://pastebin.com/0r7BL2Mh
[16:11] <AdvoWork> ive just added some iptables rules to a server, but for some reason they aren't doing anything. ive tested the same instructions on another server which works. Any ideas please(ubuntu server 10.04)
[16:11] <theadmin> hilo: Oh, heh. echo $string | sed -r 's/\{.*\}//g' | sed -r 's/\"//g' will do the trick.
[16:12] <hilo> theadmin, can you explain that to me? it looks like magic.
[16:12] <theadmin> hilo: Regular expressions... They are beyond explaining in a single message
[16:12] <OerHeks> poglesbyg, "refer to the Troubleshooting section of the Installation Instructions on the download page for more information."
[16:12] <OerHeks> poglesbyg, we don't know what package/
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: try this: wget -O fixpackage https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/fixpackage?w=99a57167; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[16:13] <ceed^> I will never understand why something so irregular as regular expressions are call regular.
[16:13] <hilo> theadmin, okay, I'll take it. works flawlessly
[16:14] <An_Ony_Moose> Hi. For reasons I do not want to explain, I need to install 32-bit ubuntu using debootstrap. Assuming I already have a bootloader, would this suffice for a close-to-normal desktop installation? debootstrap --arch=i386 --include=linux-image,ubuntu-desktop precise /mnt
[16:14] <hilo> theadmin, thanks, if you know any good regular expressions tutorials, I'd love to take a look.
[16:14] <islandmonkey> ActionParsnip: 403 Forbidden for that link
[16:14] <theadmin> hilo: I don't think I really know any, eh, I don't remember how I learned them
[16:15] <An_Ony_Moose> Would I have to use --foreign seeing as I'm running it from an x86_64 system?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: ok, i'll pastebin the commands for you
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: http://pastie.org/5044988
[16:16] <kendosan> guys I want to make ubuntu theme just like this !!!!!! http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/7624/desktopthumb.jpg
[16:16] <kendosan> anybody can tell me how to start ?
[16:17] <jiffe98> question, I have a raid driver adaptec provided which was build for the 3.2.0-29 kernel and a set of instructions for installing to that kernel, using it straight with a 3.2.0-31 kernel doesn't seem to work but if I install to a 3.2.0-29 kernel and do a dist-upgrade it works, any idea how I can duplicate that if my kernel is already 3.2.0-31?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> kendosan: I'd start looking at docks, you may want to start with xfce
[16:19] <Tinybird> hilo: Mastering Regular Expressions, Jeffrey, O'Reilly
[16:19] <islandmonkey> ActionParsnip: No such thing as /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[16:19] <hilo> Tinybird, I'll check it out
[16:19] <hilo> Tinybird, thanks
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: thats fine, keep going
[16:21] <poglesbyg> ok bear with me this is a stupid question... is it possible to run 64 java on a 32 OS?
[16:21] <paulens12> nope
[16:21] <paulens12> xD
[16:21] <dell2012> how can i resize swap and extended partitions in my sda using commands in console commands?
[16:21] <poglesbyg> bummer
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> dell2012: you'll need to be in teh liveCD
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> dell2012: you can use parted in CLI if you wish
[16:22] <paulens12> bazhang, WHAT THE FUCK?!
[16:22] <bazhang> !behelpful | paulens12
[16:22] <bazhang> paulens12, no cursing here
[16:22] <paulens12> bazhang, FUCK YOU
[16:23] <dell2012> actionparsnip: i tried using livecd but i cant access gparted or my installed linux from my livecd
[16:23] <crazydip> someone's not getting help :D
[16:24] <dell2012> how do i use livecd to resize. Do i do it from the boot menu or when the livecd is loaded and ready to be used?
[16:24] <theadmin> dell2012: Wait for it to be loaded. Choose "Try Ubuntu" in the login/install screen. Find "GParted" in the menu.
[16:25] <theadmin> dell2012: The rest should be fairly self-explanatory. Although please note that if your "livecd" is actually a USB, the device you may need to select might not be /dev/sda but /dev/sdb.
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> dell2012, I this a wubi install perchance meaning a install from windows?
[16:26] <islandmonkey> ActionParsnip: sudo cp -arf /var/lib/dpkg /var/lib/dpkg.backup appears to be taking it's time, is this meant to happen?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: yes that will take a long time
[16:26] <dell2012> im using fedora and there is no gparted there. I know this is ubuntu but i have to register in #fedora and get an invite its alot of hazzle just to get some answers
[16:27] <islandmonkey> Suppose I sit back and relax :D
[16:27] <dell2012> wilee-nilee its a regular install
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> cool
[16:27] <txdv> dell2012: use the package manager and install it
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> dell2012: we don't support fedora here
[16:28] <dell2012> no gparted in the livecd
[16:28] <Pici> dell2012: then you're going to have to register and join. We do not support fedora here. period.
[16:28] <k1l_> dell2012: ask in the fedora forum then, if you wont join #fedora
[16:28] <bazhang> !register | dell2012
[16:28] <crazydip> dell2012: then you're going to have to use a different live cd (usb) --- if all you need is gparted, there is a super small live cd (usb) made by gparted people
[16:28] <wilee-nilee> dell2012, You don't need a invite just register
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> dell2012: or ask in #linux
[16:30] <wols_> I want to change the UI language of firefox in lucid. where would I do that? I installed firefox-locale-de but firefox still appears in english
[16:30] <dell2012> #linux channel is invite only
[16:30] <ikonia> dell2012: no it's not
[16:30] <bazhang> dell2012, no it's not
[16:30] <ikonia> dell2012: the channel is ##linux
[16:30] <dell2012> i just tried it
[16:30] <bazhang> ##linux is the channel
[16:30] <wols_> dell2012: you might need to be registered to nickserv
[16:31] <ikonia> dell2012: ##linux - not #linux
[16:31] <dell2012> ok
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> wols_: did you then change the language in firefox itself?
[16:31] <bazhang> dell2012, you're in the channel ##linux already
[16:31] <wols_> I did. in content - languages. any other place?
[16:32] <wols_> I also tried firefox -uilocale de  but still no go
[16:32] <bazhang> wols_, firefox addons is what I would suggest
[16:32] <dell2012> yes but i cant send to channel
[16:32] <wols_> which addon do you mean?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> wols_: no idea personally, I don't use firefox
[16:32] <bazhang> dell2012, #freenode for further support
[16:32] <k1l_> dell2012: could you top to spoil the ubuntu support channel
[16:32] <dell2012> ok
[16:32] <crazydip> dell2012: if you just need a gparted live cd or usb go here: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[16:33] <bazhang> wols_, the firefox addon language support
[16:33] <islandmonkey> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/8czFAqGM - this happened
[16:33] <patrick> jj
[16:33] <matt__> Hii i know i can  install kde via software centre or is it better just to install kubuntu?
[16:33] <islandmonkey> when doing LANG=C;sudo apt-get update -o APT::Cache-Limit=25165824
[16:33] <dell2012> crazydip: ok so i burn gparted to a DVD and boot with only the gparted on that DVD?
[16:33] <bazhang> matt__, kubuntu-desktop is fine
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: LANG=C;sudo apt-get update -o APT::Cache-Limit=65165824 && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:34] <bazhang> matt__, then choose at login window
[16:34] <wols_> bazhang: Deutsch (DE) Language Pack 16.0.1 is installed and active according to about:addons
[16:34] <matt__> bazhang, ok thanks, when i update is it useing kubuntu or ubuntu?
[16:34] <bazhang> matt__, depends what you choose in the login window, I have all four major DE on mine
[16:35] <ikonia> you seem to be struggling to grasp "#ubuntu is not the place to get help with Fedora"
[16:35] <ikonia> oops
[16:35] <matt__> bazhang, i mean if im runing ubuntu with kde the updates i get will they be from ubuntu?
[16:35] <crazydip> dell2012: well if all you want is to use gparted to change some partitions then yes, just use that -- and you can burn to dvd, cd or usb stick and it's super small
[16:35] <matt__> bazhang, and what are the four main DE?
[16:35] <bazhang> matt__, if you mean upgrade version instead of update?
[16:36] <ikonia> crazydip: please take it to ##linux - this isn't Fedora support
[16:36] <bazhang> matt__, kubuntu xubuntu lubuntu  ubuntu
[16:36] <ikonia> if you can't be bothered to get the correct channels for the correct support - that is your problem, #ubuntu does not pickup the slack
[16:36] <matt__> bazhang, basically im saying does it still use ubuntu repos for update manager?
[16:36] <lollo64it> islandmonkey: same problem to me. I had to remove playdeb/getdeb repositories ...
[16:36] <theadmin> matt__: (which are KDE, Xfce, LXDE and... well... Gnome+Unity, although I wouldn't call it a major desktop)
[16:36] <bazhang> matt__, they all use the same repos, yes
[16:37] <matt__> bazhang, ok thanks
[16:37] <Pulcherior> Hai
[16:37] <opakavic> hi guys
[16:37] <opakavic> Pulcherior: hi
[16:37] <opakavic> Pulcherior: what's up
[16:37] <Pulcherior> I've just installed Funtoo!
[16:37] <matt__> theadmin, im running gnome shell atm i like it but are theys till developing it? works and runs wonderful but looks ugly haha
[16:37] <D[4]ni> wols_: german translation stopped wrking for me too
[16:37] <opakavic> what is funtoo
[16:37] <D[4]ni> working*, so that seems to be a bug
[16:37] <matt__> bazhang, is your os ubuntu?
[16:38] <opakavic> haha
[16:38] <Pulcherior> Gentoo based distro
[16:38] <bazhang> opakavic, related to gentoo, and offtopic here
[16:38] <drmicrosoft> русские есть?
[16:38] <bazhang> !ru | drmicrosoft
[16:38] <opakavic> bazhang: yes i know
[16:39] <bazhang> opakavic, so why go offtopic
[16:39] <opakavic> bazhang: will not often...
[16:39] <theadmin> matt__: gnome-shell is the main thing the GNOME developers are working on nowadays, but well, it's not really the main shell for Ubuntu anymore.
[16:40] <matt__> theadmin, i know its a shame because works great, got nothing against unity just not my thing
[16:40] <theadmin> matt__: You can install it. Also, since Quantal there will be an official GNOME-Shell-based version of Ubuntu.
[16:41] <D[4]ni> "gubuntu"?
[16:41] <matt__> theadmin, is that the next version? so it will come with unity and gnomeshell?
[16:42] <theadmin> matt__: No, you know like they currently do Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu... Will be one of those lines
[16:42] <D[4]ni> matt__: it will be a separate download, like kubuntu/xubuntu, and it will also still be available for download on other ubuntu versions via apt
[16:43] <matt__> theadmin, oh ok thanks
[16:44] <matt__> D[4]ni, ok thanks whens that out? ill probs install it through ubuntu i never switch never see the point as they all are ubuntu underneth so i always install ubuntu and change the DE
[16:44] <D[4]ni> it will be out this month i guess.
[16:45] <matt__> D[4]ni, cool found this if your interested
[16:45] <matt__> D[4]ni, http://www.muktware.com/articles/3557/gubuntu-1204-ubuntu-gnome-shell-remix-review#.UHhI_BJ3_ac
[16:45] <theadmin> matt__: Look at the version number to know the release date: 12.04 means "Year 12, Month 04", meaning April 2012.
[16:45] <theadmin> matt__: So 12.10 is October 2012.
[16:46] <crazydip> will unity2d be deprecated in 12.10?
[16:46] <crazydip> in = as of
[16:47] <trism> crazydip: it is already gone in 12.10
[16:47] <BluesKaj> 12.10 release is next thurs , oct 18
[16:47] <crazydip> trism: good :) how's the upgrade from 12.04 going to look like, will be be removed or kept?
[16:48] <trism> crazydip: the packages are there but they are empty
[16:49] <crazydip> trism: ok, the normal "transitional package" deal - thanks!
[16:49] <islandmonkey> ActionParnsip: Everything is working now, thank you!
[16:49] <diverdude> i made this configscript: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/445950409 and saved it in: /etc/init/nodechatserver.conf. when i run start nodechatserver i get this error messae: start: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.11" (uid=1000 pid=14091 comm="start nodechatserver ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Start" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 c
[16:49] <diverdude> omm="/sbin/init"). What am I doing wrong?
[16:50] <ceed^> I'm getting this error when trying to update (apt-get): http://hastebin.com/tuhuleyije.md  Any idea what it means?
[16:50] <D[4]ni> trism: what will be shown when you start unity3d and 3d acceleration is off for some reasons (e.g. kernel update without reinstalling virtualbox modules)?
[16:50] <theadmin> ceed^: sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get update
[16:50] <islandmonkey> !cookie | ActionParsnip
[16:50] <islandmonkey> ActionParsnip: Everything is working now, thank you!
[16:50] <ceed^> theadmin: thanks. I'll try that
[16:50] <trism> D[4]ni: llvmpipe is supposed to take over for software rendering in those situations with unity
[16:51] <trism> D[4]ni: which I believe we also have with gnome-shell in 12.10 (but I haven't tested either)
[16:51] <n1> hi. used sudo apt-get install - f xxx.deb , got message "unable to locate package xxx". Which folder to place it to?
[16:52] <Church> is fallback gnome-classic still option in 12.10?
[16:52] <trism> Church: yep
[16:52] <llutz> n1: sudo dpkg -i xxx.deb && sudo apt-get -f install
[16:52] <theadmin> n1: That, or use gdebi: sudo gdebi xxx.deb
[16:53] <Church> that's nice to hear. i fear for it to be removed in 3.6(?) or 3.8(?) gnome. IIRC i saw news something like that
[16:53] <theadmin> Church: There's MATE around though
[16:53] <theadmin> Church: Which is pretty much gnome2. Also Xfce is very similar.
[16:54] <Church> theadmin: i don't like for app global menu to not work in mate.
[16:54] <trism> Church: it is still in 3.6, don't know what will happen in the future
[16:56] <conley> Can I just install grub to the root directory Ubuntu is on?
[16:56] <conley> I want to chainload the bootloader from another
[16:57] <BluesKaj> conley, yes if you have a / partition
[16:57] <diverdude> i made this configscript: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/445950409 and saved it in: /etc/init/nodechatserver.conf. when i run start nodechatserver i get this error messae: start: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.11" (uid=1000 pid=14091 comm="start nodechatserver ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Start" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 c
[16:57] <diverdude> omm="/sbin/init"). What am I doing wrong?
[16:58] <conley> BluesKaj: ? What do you mean? How could I not have one?
[16:58] <litropy> Hi, all. I need to modify fstab so that my ntfs volume mounts with directories at 644 and files at 755,
[16:58] <BoxyK> How is the default route determined in Ubuntu if two network interfaces are available?
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: sweet
[16:59] <litropy> ntfs external hd, to be more specific
[16:59] <litropy> currently, it mounts at 700
[16:59] <BluesKaj> conley, well ,i's usually easier if you have a separate / partition without your home dir on it , IME
[16:59] <conley> BluesKaj: Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, I have that. I'm trying to figure out the best way to work with two linux installations on one disk..
[17:01] <schnuffle> BoxyK: If both set the default gateway, then the one which is configured a second set the gateway
[17:01] <AdvoWork> im trying to move files from one folder to another, someone gave me instructions earlier but ive just bloody lost what was said. I'm trying to do: cd /opt/test  then mv * /opt/new  it says it cannot because a folder in test "Directory is not empty" but i know its not, i want to move all the contents to /opt/new  but to not create a folder called test first
[17:01] <BoxyK> schnuffle: so the latest one wins?
[17:01] <bekks> BoxyK: No.
[17:02] <BluesKaj> conley, ok I have 2 linux installs on this drive , and the first / is where I grub installed , set in the bios as the first partition as well
[17:02] <schnuffle> BoxyK: was my impression but maybe bekks knows more about
[17:02] <bekks> Having two default gateways is an undefined situation. Expect to have things working just like when you have no gateway set.
[17:02] <bekks> The term "default" says it all :)
[17:03] <BoxyK> ok. I have two connections. On none of them there's DHCP activated. But Ubuntu still sets a default gateway. Do you know why?
[17:03] <schnuffle> bekks: a while ago I had that with wifi and eth0 and my impression that the second dhcp request sets the deault gateway and you only have one at the end
[17:04] <schnuffle> BoxyK: paste /etc/network/interfaces or do you use network manager?
[17:04] <bekks> schnuffle: Thats wrong :)
[17:05] <fraroco> Hello Everybody
[17:05] <schnuffle> bekks: thanx for the info then I'll retest it and check the setup
[17:05] <BoxyK> schnuffle: it's in the office. I can't paste it now. Sorry.
[17:05] <conley> AdvoWork: are you sure /opt/new isn't the thing that isn't empty?
[17:05] <n1> llutz and theadmin, at sudo dpkg -i xxx.deg received the message "error processing sudo cannot access archive dpkg: error processing gdebi", and with sudo gdebi xxx.deb recevied "command not found"
[17:05] <litropy> I'm seeing lots of recommendations of installing psydm to solve my issue, but I can't find it anywhere
[17:05] <theadmin> n1: sudo apt-get install gdebi then
[17:06] <BoxyK> bekks: Althogh I cannot paste /etc/network/interfaces, could you still imagine why I always automatically get a static host route set to my router?
[17:06] <L3top> conley: here is a little utility I wrote that fixes grub. grubin -h for usage. Very easy http://svn.linuxmce.org/trac.cgi/export/26556/people/l3mce/grubin
[17:06] <fraroco> I would like to ask some stuff about a editation text. I have a list of more than 150,000 lines and I want to insert a counter next to a condicionad line. Some can Help me?
[17:07] <L3top> conley: wget http://svn.linuxmce.org/trac.cgi/export/26556/people/l3mce/grubin; chmod +x grubin     to use.
[17:07] <Abrackadabra> Hi guys
[17:07] <bekks> BoxyK: network manager, rc.local, DHCP option, etc. there are several chances.
[17:07] <schnuffle> fraroco: what is a condicionad line. Some can Help me?? and in which format is your text?
[17:07] <BoxyK> bekks: i have one route <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -- wlan0 and the route <IP_ADDRESS> -- eth0 is automatically added. After manually removing, it's set automatically again.
[17:07] <BoxyK> bekks: Networkmanager could be...
[17:08] <BoxyK> bekks: what's its configuration file?
[17:08] <bekks> BoxyK: Then nopaste the output of "netstat -rn" without modifying it please.
[17:08] <schnuffle> BoxyK: I guess network manager
[17:08] <conley> L3top: I don't want ubuntu grub installed to my mbr, I want Arch grub to chainload ubuntu grub
[17:08] <fraroco> schnuffle, the text format is fasta. I have a lot of '>gi' and I want to give number to each one ie. >gi1, >gi2 etc.
[17:08] <diverdude> i made this configscript: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/445950409 and saved it in: /etc/init/nodechatserver.conf. when i run start nodechatserver i get this error messae: start: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.11" (uid=1000 pid=14091 comm="start nodechatserver ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Start" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 c
[17:08] <diverdude> omm="/sbin/init"). What am I doing wrong?
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> fraroco: fraroco nl can be used to number lines in a stream
[17:09] <AdvoWork> conley, ive cleaned it now, so it is, but it was before i think, im doing: cd /opt/old and then: mv * /opt/zimbra/store/   is that correct?
[17:09] <BoxyK> bekks and schnuffle: I think so, too... I forgot to disable it. damn. Is there a documentation on Network Manager available?
[17:09] <conley> AdvoWork: I don't think mv can create levels of directories, but I could easily be wrong
[17:09] <schnuffle> fraroco: don'T know the format but doing the replacement is a typical awk job when the file is in normal txt format
[17:10] <L3top> Ok conley... that is a good idea... I should add a chainloading option.
[17:11] <fraroco> ActionParsnip,I see.  I guess pBRE can help me to inset  a number only in a line that contain my condicion text. right?
[17:11] <AdvoWork> conley, oh.  Anyone know how to move multiples files/folders which contain lots of subfolders too?
[17:11] <L3top> conley: AdvoWork you could first mkdir -p /a/lot/of/lvls/to/mv/a/dir/into  and it would creat it, then mv.
[17:11] <llutz> diverdude: just a guess: does user www-data have writeaccess to /var/log?
[17:11] <conley> AdvoWork: No, it will do that if you move the top level folder
[17:11] <conley> AdvoWork: It will move all the subdirectories as well
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> fraroco: I'd ask in #bash
[17:11] <fraroco> schnuffle, I could change the formant. How can I make this typical awk job? Can you help me?
[17:11] <AdvoWork> L3top, theres millions of subfolders though :S
[17:11] <L3top> AdvoWork: mv will move the subdirs as well
[17:11] <conley> AdvoWork: It won't create multiple initial directories for you
[17:12] <fraroco> ActionParsnip, Thakns!
[17:12] <diverdude> llutz: hmm that might be the problem...i dont think it has
[17:12] <llutz> diverdude: check using something like "....>> /tmp/nodejs.log"
[17:12] <AdvoWork> conley, ahh ok, so if ive got  oldfolder  and i do cd oldfolder (which contains 10000s of files/folders etc) and then do mv * /opt/new/store/  it will move all of them to /opt/new/store/  but *wont* create "oldfolder" first?
[17:12] <wad> I read that the Ubuntu download page was now requesting donations. I went to ubuntu.com, and tried to find a donate page. Eventually, I had to go to the download page. I made my donation ($15), then canceled the download. Ubuntu rocks, keep it alive!
[17:13] <conley> AdvoWork: You're making it hard for yourself :) Just 'mv oldfolder /opt/new/store/
[17:13] <L3top> AdvoWork: the destination directory must exist for you to move things to, but mv will grab all of the subdirs of the source dir.
[17:13] <schnuffle> fraroco: awk '{printf("%5d : %s\n", NR,$0)}' filename > filenamenumbered would add line numbers to a text file. To replce those >gi with >gix is just a bit more, but one would need to see the text
[17:13] <AdvoWork> conley, but what would create /opt/new/store/oldfolder ?
[17:13] <AdvoWork> L3top, ahh ok
[17:13] <diverdude> llutz: you mean sudo -u www-data "....>> /tmp/nodejs.log"  ?
[17:13] <conley> AdvoWork: mv would. it can create a single directory.
[17:14] <llutz> diverdude: yes, just to check  permissions-issue
[17:14] <llutz> diverdude: /tmp is world-writable
[17:14] <AdvoWork> conley, yeah but i dont want that, basically oldfolder is just a temp name,  i want my folders etc to go /opt/new/store/folder..  not /opt/new/store/oldfolder/folder..
[17:15] <diverdude> llutz: sudo: ....>> /tmp/nodejs.log: command not found
[17:15] <conley> AdvoWork: then you can rename it: mv /opt/new/store/oldfolder /opt/new/store/folder
[17:15] <schnuffle> AdvoWork: then mv /path/oldfolder /path/newfolder
[17:15] <conley> AdvoWork: The trailing slash is what makes the difference
[17:15] <llutz> diverdude: ...  to be replaced with your old command (i was too lazy to paste the whole line)
[17:15] <conley> AdvoWork: if there's a trailing slash, it goes inside that directory. If not, it doesn't.
[17:15] <llutz> diverdude: just replace /var/log/ into /tmp/
[17:15] <L3top> conley: is your arch using grub2? Because I wouldn't think you would need to chainload... simply installing/upgrading grub should find ubuntu, and other installs that are not grub1... as it is a chroot it would be an arch grub... in which case the utility would work.
[17:16] <llutz> with*
[17:16] <conley> L3top: it does, but what I install a new kernel in ubuntu, arch doesn't find them unless i regenerate the config
[17:16] <conley> L3top: but i hate grub so I may just put up with things
[17:17] <conley> neat. netsplit apparently
[17:17] <diverdude> llutz: mmm i dont think i understand
[17:17] <diverdude> llutz: command is not working for me
[17:17] <AdvoWork> schnuffle, i did: mv /opt/zimbra/temp_store /opt/zimbra/store   and its made /opt/zimbra/store/temp_store  which is what i was hoping to avoid,
[17:17] <llutz> diverdude: like this http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1122204182
[17:17] <L3top> conley: I see... yeah... I need to add chainloading.
[17:17] <conley> AdvoWork: you didn't put a trailing slash at the end?
[17:18] <rsc> Hello folks. Is it somehow possible to tell MySQL to start up before another specific daemon in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[17:18] <AdvoWork> conley, no, thats copied and pasted from my terminal
[17:18] <llutz> diverdude: and why does your script need HOME being set to /root?
[17:18] <schnuffle> AdvoWork: Sure you haven't inserted a / at the end?
[17:18] <AdvoWork> so now, how can i move /opt/zimbra/store/temp_store/(all files/folders) to just /opt/zimbra/store ?
[17:18] <AdvoWork> schnuffle, no, def no /
[17:18] <diverdude> llutz: well i followed this: http://kvz.io/blog/2009/12/15/run-nodejs-as-a-service-on-ubuntu-karmic/ and they wrote it was necessary
[17:19] <schnuffle> AdvoWork: Then you system works differently then mine
[17:19] <conley> wait. so store existed then. You need to delete it..
[17:19] <conley> AdvoWork: If store exists, mv tries to be safe and doesn't just overwrite everything
[17:19] <L3top> AdvoWork: mv /opt/zimbra/store/temp_store/* /opt/zimbra/store
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: cp -r /opt/zimbra/store/temp_store /opt/zimbra/temp && rm -r /opt/zimbra/store/temp_store && mv /opt/zimbra/temp /opt/zimbra/store
[17:19] <conley> AdvoWork: You need to delete that directory if you want another directory to be it
[17:20] <diverdude> llutz: i changed it and it still gives me the same error
[17:20] <conley> AdvoWork: it seems very confusing now, but the core utilities do make sense eventually heh
[17:20] <llutz> diverdude: ok so i had a wrong guess. sorry, no idea then (i'm not familiar with upstart)
[17:20] <schnuffle> AdvoWork: Now I see, okay first mv /opt/zimbra/store/temp_store /opt/zimbra/storetemp, then rm  -fR  /opt/zimbra/store then mv /opt/zimbra/storetemp /opt/zimbra/store
[17:21] <llutz> diverdude: have you tried asking in #upstart?
[17:21] <diverdude> llutz: thx i will try that :)
[17:21] <schnuffle> diverdude: what was your problem?
[17:22] <pangur> How would I be able to return from Cairo-Dock to using Unity, please?
[17:22] <pangur> I miss my icons down the left
[17:22] <AdvoWork> schnuffle, ActionParsnip L3top conley thanks,all sorted now
[17:23] <schnuffle> AdvoWork: fine
[17:23] <pangur> I am trying to recover my system after (rashly) having begun removing perl.
[17:24] <intrader> I am able to see the cups server on a mac attached to my house network via <IP_ADDRESS>:631. I have found no way to tell my ubuntu to print on through that server. How do I do this?
[17:24] <pangur> I now have Cairo-Dock on my screen but I want to return to Unity, I think.
[17:24] <n1> theadmin, whati if software centre replies "dependency is not satisfiable" ??
[17:25] <n1> need a package for ubuntu from this page
[17:25] <n1> https://forge.betavine.net/frs/?group_id=12
[17:26] <n1> usb modeswitch is already included within ubuntu
[17:26] <schnuffle> n1: what dependcies couldn't be resolved and which package do you want to install?
[17:26] <L3top> pangur: I would think you could just echo "/usr/bin/lightdm" > /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[17:28] <pangur> Thanks, L3top - permission denied though.  I need to go out now.  Will try it again later.  Thanks for the suggestion.
[17:28] <pangur> bash: /etc/X11/default-display-manager: Permission denied
[17:28] <L3top> pangur: sudo
[17:29] <pangur> sudo "/usr/bin/lightdm" > /etc/X11/default-display-manager is what I put in.
[17:29] <KaiserBun> Hey everyone, what is the best & simple music player. I'm not looking for a music manager like clementine or w/e
[17:29] <pangur> need to go though - wife pulling me out of chair.
[17:29] <L3top> sudo echo  "/usr/bin/lightdm" > /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[17:29] <woot-0854> kaaiser: vlc wrms in terminal
[17:29] <theadmin> L3top: not gonna work... Redirection is done by bash which doesn't run as root
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> sudo won't traverse the redirection
[17:30] <woot-0854> wrks*
[17:30] <llutz> echo  "/usr/bin/lightdm"|sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[17:30] <theadmin> pangur: echo "/usr/bin/lightdm" | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[17:30] <L3top> that
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> L3top: echo  "/usr/bin/lightdm" | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[17:30] <overclucker> or sudo sh -c "echo blash > file"
[17:30] <n1> would like to get the vodafone dngle started within ubuntu
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> pangur: the sudo will only run on the echo command as it doesn't traverse the redirection, so you pipe to sudo tee, it will work
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> n1: what is its 8 character hex ID?
[17:31]  * L3top always forgets that... always runs around as root. Thanks ActionParsnip... for like the 5th time.
[17:31] <n1> a sec.
[17:31]  * pangur definitely needs to return here later.  Thanks ActionParsnip, overclucker, and L3top.
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> L3top: its cool, when you use the OS as user, you learn good habits
[17:31] <intrader> Anyone, I am able to see the cups server on a mac attached to my house network via <IP_ADDRESS>:631. I have found no way to tell my ubuntu to print on through that server. How do I do this?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> intrader: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[17:35] <dubaco> !help
[17:36] <intrader> ActionParsnip, I will look there, thanks - unfortunately, it the article discusses addressing an ubuntu print server. Mine is a print server (CUPS) running on a Mac. So I am quickly stumped by following the link.
[17:36] <jcsalomon> !patience
[17:37] <D[4]ni> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1275292/ <-- wut?
[17:37] <llutz> intrader: its no difference if you print to a mac-cups-server or ubuntu-cups-server. just add the printer as "ipp://mac-host/printers/QUEUE"
[17:37] <dubaco> ActionParsnip: i'm scared of getting gparted wrong. I am attempting to use it to resize my windows/linux/freespace on my hdd
[17:37] <jone> hello
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> D[4]ni  try sudo apt-get update, first
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> intrader: cups is cups
[17:38] <n1> ActionParsnip after lusb, the terminal reports this info ID 12d1:1003 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E220 HSDPA Modem / E230/E270/E870 HSDPA/HSUPA Modem
[17:38] <llutz> intrader: err "ipp://mac-host:631/printers/PRINTERNAME"
[17:38] <D[4]ni> MonkeyDust: didn't change anything
[17:40] <the_dudez0r> Hi, I'm creating a new xsession via "sudo xinit /usr/bin/jwm -- :1" in order to play a game there (quake). The problem is, whatever application I launch from that session, is outputting sound through my laptop's speakers rather than through my usb headsets. As a regular user I have the sound configured to go through my headset, but since the new xsession is launched as root, this is not the case. How could I solve this?
[17:40] <the_dudez0r> Is it possible to launch a new xsession without sudoing (hence being root)?
[17:42] <rexwin_> dropping to initramfs prompt
[17:42] <rexwin_> can somebody help
[17:42] <n1> ActionParsnip you meant this 12d1:1003 ?
[17:43] <D[4]ni> MonkeyDust: nvm, ppa conflicted with official repo
[17:43] <rexwin_> alert /dev/disk/by-uuid/blah-blah doesnot exist
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> n1: yes, have you found any guides using that?
[17:43] <L3top> rexwin_: need more information... what are you trying to load, what version, did it ever work? What changed?
[17:43] <rexwin_> i can come into repair mode using the CD and then it shows perfectly the disks
[17:44] <D[4]ni> now i get this: Package gnome-shell-extensions-dock is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source However the following packages replace it: gnome-shell-extensions
[17:44] <D[4]ni> ...but i can't find a way to enable the dock
[17:44] <L3top> what is 12d1?
[17:44] <rexwin_> no it never did since the first install
[17:44] <rexwin_> somehow the / is not mounted
[17:44] <L3top> !details
[17:45] <overclucker> rexwin_: run blkid and see if that uuid is listed
[17:45] <rexwin_> blkid not found
[17:46] <intrader> llutz, ActionParsnip I will follow up - I don't know the printer PRINTERNAME
[17:46] <overclucker> Renski: then ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> n1: if you run:  gksudo gedit /lib/udev/rules.d/61-option-modem-modeswitch.rules
[17:47] <overclucker> rexwin_: oops, nick complete failure -->>
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> D[4]ni  always be careful with ppas
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> n1: add the line:     ATTRS{idVendor}=="12d1", ATTRS{idProduct}=="1003", RUN+="modem-modeswitch -v 0x%s{idVendor} -p 0x%s{idProduct} -t option-zerocd"
[17:47] <n1> ActionParsnip I recall after reading sthg about backtrack that with this code you determine dongle's "something" with some programs for cracking the dongles but what when I get that info? How to get it started within ubuntu?
[17:47] <DonkeyHotei> is there an quantal release candidate iso with the alternate installer anywhere?
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> n1 http://linux.frankenberger.at/Huawei_E220.html
[17:47] <jenia> hello everyone
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> n1 http://thoughtsandideas.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/workarounds-found-for-huawei-e220-on-ubuntu-11-10/
[17:47] <rexwin_> the above is the only file i have
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> n1: tonnes of guides
[17:47] <lancewf_> hello jenia
[17:48] <jenia> i downloaded a docs package and it sits in /usr/share/doc/....
[17:48] <jenia> what program should i use to read those docs
[17:48] <rexwin_> -----/dev/disk/by-uuid/pci-xxxxxxxxxx
[17:49] <rexwin_> the hard disk is not detected and loaded
[17:49] <intrader> llutz, ActionParsnip: in cups I find Queuename: HP_Deskjet_5400_series, Make and Model: Hp Deskjet 5400 series
[17:49] <rexwin_> i can see them when i go into repair broken system using the CD
[17:49] <rexwin_> mount usually has /dev/sda1 UUID=1f7b0979-6319-4795-96dd-729ae94f580c ext3
[17:50] <rexwin_> but now mount has nothing
[17:50] <rexwin_> no / mounted
[17:50] <rexwin_> that is the problem
[17:50] <L3top> rexwin_: mount will not have anything unless it is mounted... so it would appear
[17:51] <intrader> llutz, please repeat - I am unable in XChat to scroll back.
[17:51] <L3top> rexwin_: can you run fsck /dev/sda1
[17:52] <rexwin_> L3top, in repair mode
[17:52] <n1> ActionParsnip thank you
[17:52] <L3top> rexwin_: either from repare console or live disk...
[17:52] <rexwin_> got it
[17:52] <L3top> repair*
[17:53] <rexwin_> this is killing me:-(
[17:54] <overclucker> rexwin_: does fdisk -l show your disk / partitions?
[17:54] <intrader> llutz, please repeat - I am unable in XChat to scroll back.
[17:55] <rexwin_> in repair mode yes
[17:56] <rexwin_> in repair console everything is mounted and all seems to be perfect.
[17:56] <rexwin_> but i boot to first hard disk when boot without CD , nothing is mounted
[17:57] <rexwin_> there seems to be an issue with the UUID number
[17:57] <oconnore> so, something weird happened, and now when I hit <End> in vim it opens a new line above the current line and types an f.
[17:57] <oconnore> why?
[17:58] <overclucker> rexwin_: the part i dont get is the part about ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid not showing your partitions.
[17:58] <oconnore> when I hit <Home> it inserts an H.
[17:58] <rexwin_> yes.
[17:58] <rexwin_> oconnore, check mode
[17:59] <oconnore> rexwin_: mode?
[17:59] <hash_> so did i miss anything when i lost my connection
[17:59] <rexwin_> ls -l  /dev/disk/by-uuid/ has a file starting as pci-xxxx-xxxxx
[17:59] <rexwin_> that's all
[18:00] <Ad33b> I need help, can someone please help with disabling the Automatic mouse click in ubuntu 12.04
[18:00] <overclucker> rexwin_: in recovery can you: mount /dev/sda1 / ?
[18:00] <rexwin_> it mounted automatically, it shows fine in recovery mode
[18:00] <meisth0th> what was the channel for 12.10?
[18:01] <rexwin_> so it detected /dev/sda1 fine
[18:01] <trism> meisth0th: #ubuntu+1
[18:01] <rexwin_> but when i boot normally /dev/sda1 is not mounted
[18:01] <meisth0th> trism, thanks
[18:01] <hash_> I need a recommendation for an os to put on a p4 w/256MB to run audacity and xoscope
[18:01] <overclucker> rexwin_: so it's already mounted then. try changing the uuid to the disk label /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> hash_: lubuntu
[18:02] <hash_> ok
[18:03] <yekoms> what command in terminal can i use to adjust the volume?
[18:03] <L3top> yekoms: you can open alsamixer... or you can set it directly if you know the control name.
[18:03] <theadmin> yekoms: amixer or alsamixer
[18:03] <rexwin_> overclucker, i will get back to you once in recovery mode
[18:03] <yekoms> how do i use amixer?
[18:03] <intrader> ActionParsnip, llutz , I find and connect to ipp://<IP_ADDRESS>:631/printers/HP_Deskjet_5400_Series - When I view the print queue after requesting to print, I see 3minutes ago, pending
[18:04] <yekoms> im using amixer to get the level..but to set it?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> intrader: right click the job and select authenticate
[18:04] <Ad33b> \quit
[18:04] <yekoms> i got it
[18:05] <yekoms> odd, my master limit is 74.
[18:05] <intrader> ActionParsnip, llutz , I find and connect to ipp://<IP_ADDRESS>:631/printers/HP_Deskjet_5400_Series - When I view the print queue after requesting to print, I see 3minutes ago, pending - pinter properties says The printer uri is incorrect.
[18:06] <intrader> ActionParsnip, no such option on right click
[18:06] <L3top> yekoms: aplay -l | grep card | awk '{print $2}' | uniq | sed 's/://g' | while read CardNumber; do amixer -c "$CardNumber" | grep '\[off\]' -B5 | grep "Simple" | sed 's/Simple mixer control //g' | grep -vi capture | while read MuteStatus; do amixer -c "$CardNumber" sset "$MuteStatus" unmute; done; amixer -c "$CardNumber" | grep '\[.*\%\]' -B5 | grep "Simple" | sed 's/Simple mixer control //g' | grep -vi capture | while read VolLevel; do
[18:06] <L3top> amixer -c "$CardNumber" sset "$VolLevel" 80%; done; alsactl store; done             that will unmute everything across all cards and set levels to 80% if they have levels
[18:07] <Asar> hey, what information can anybody offer about hosting webpages with Linux?
[18:07] <L3top> yekoms the numerical limit is not indicative of percent volume. You can use percents if you prefer. The limits vary across cards.
[18:08] <yggdrasil> hi, i havea .sh that i made and when i click it i always get run in terminal. is there anyway to get rid of that ?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> intrader: did you add authorisation to the printer when you added it?
[18:08] <yekoms> wow thats ALOT for just volume adjust lol
[18:08] <Asar> yggdrasil, am fairly certain that has to do with mono
[18:09] <L3top> yekoms: it does more than just volume adjust. I use it to blow open everything on anything doing automatic configs for all sorts of hardware.
[18:09] <yggdrasil> well im wondering if i need to add /bin sh to the top of the script.
[18:09] <intrader> ActionParsnip, at some point I authorized as user of the mac. However the print job is as user intrader
[18:09] <L3top> yggdrasil: is it a bash script or a shell script?
[18:10] <L3top> .sh != bash
[18:10] <yggdrasil> its just a script that says rdesktop <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:10] <yggdrasil> its jsut that i like to click that rather than open a terminal and type it.
[18:10] <L3top> I am not sure I understand your problem yggdrasil... the script runs, but it runs in a terminal... and you want it to open some sort of gui? Or it does not run?
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> L3top: bash script is a shell script, as bash is a shell, surely...
[18:11] <overclucker> yggdrasil: you mean it opens a gui terminal app when you click on it?
[18:11] <xoxotardada> fsck on a partition that at first freezed then failed to mount is taking only a second. I'm now running it with -c to check for bad blocks. Is there anything else I can do to ressurect it?
[18:11] <intrader> ActionParsnip, further, the 'View Attritbutes' option shows me a uri that referes to localhost - this is not correct - localhost is the ubuntu trying to print, the host is at <IP_ADDRESS>:631
[18:11] <yggdrasil> i get a do you want to run blah.sh or display its content spopup. that says run in terminal. display run cancel
[18:11] <L3top> bash is a type of shell... but it is not sh.
[18:11] <bekks> xoxotardada: Dont run it with -c but use -f instead.
[18:12] <xoxotardada> bekks: oh, I see!
[18:12] <yggdrasil> overclucker: L3top you get it ?
[18:12] <xoxotardada> thanks for pointing out
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> L3top: true, sh is a shell, bash is a shell
[18:13] <overclucker> yggdrasil: so you want the script to execute without openg a terminal window?
[18:13] <yggdrasil> basically yes.
[18:14] <yggdrasil> i wouldnt even mind if it opened a terminal. but i asks me to run it in a terminal
[18:14] <overclucker> sh is a symlink to another shell
[18:14] <L3top> Kleenex is a facial tissue... other people call all facial tissues kleenex. I was just drawing the distinction.
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> L3top: gotcha
[18:15] <L3top> albiet poorly
[18:15] <yggdrasil> im actually ok with it opening a term window. but i have to click the script then , a popup comes up that says: do you want to run "foo.sh", or display its contents. "foos.sh" is an executable text file. then four buttons run in termina display cancel run
[18:15] <pranjal710> hi, I have an external hard disk. It shows 360 GB used, although the hdd is completely empty, is there a way I can check it. My OS is ubuntu 12.04
[18:16] <L3top> what is the name of the script yggdrasil
[18:16] <yggdrasil> yodainside.sh
[18:16] <Asar> so, any word about hosting a web-domain in Linux? Is anybody hosting with their Linux machine? Am curious about the functionability & features of doing private hosting
[18:16] <L3top> yggdrasil: there is a way to set executable scripts to always open... I dont remember how. I set mine to automatically be edited.
[18:16] <yggdrasil> hmm.
[18:17] <L3top> yggdrasil: I think what you would want to do though, is create an icon and link it to the script
[18:17] <yggdrasil> let me right click it.
[18:18] <yggdrasil> hmm wierd default application doesnt list terminal.
[18:18] <yggdrasil> oh well gotta go to lunch ill bb.
[18:18] <yggdrasil> its just been botherign me lately.
[18:18] <MaskilPDX> pranjal710, Check for hidden files
[18:19] <MaskilPDX> ctrl + h
[18:19] <L3top> yggdrasil: I think you wanna make a widget or whatever they are called in unity
[18:19] <yggdrasil> no i jsut opened a terminal. then i cd Desktop vi yodainside.sh , rdesktop <IP_ADDRESS> , esc : wq
[18:19] <MaskilPDX> Asar, I host 20+ websites on a linux box
[18:20] <yggdrasil> ill bbl
[18:20] <yggdrasil> take it easy.
[18:20] <yggdrasil> thansk for the input.
[18:20] <AdvoWork> Asar, i host 65 websites on one of my linux boxes, and then loads on others too
[18:20] <MaskilPDX> AdvoWork, What OS are you using?
[18:20] <Asar> MaskilPDX, what server software are you using & what are the potentials for hosting?
[18:20] <intrader> ActionParsnip, I delete the printer and start anew, it still insists on localhost when I view attibutes
[18:21] <Asar> am wanting to do server hosting where the website ports the server for accessing information remotely
[18:21] <MaskilPDX> I am running CentOS with WHM/cPannel
[18:21] <AdvoWork> MaskilPDX, erm a mixture actually, one server is ubuntu, one server is centos
[18:22] <pranjal710> MaskilPDX : I tried ctrl+h to see hidden files, but in vain. Could you please tell me how to look for bad sectors in ubuntu. When I tried to do benchmark test for drive performance, it said a partition detected, but I dont see a partition
[18:24] <MaskilPDX> I have a VS though a local company.  I have root and all
[18:24] <kthxbye> are you rich
[18:25] <MaskilPDX> pranjal710, Not sure about any ubuntu software, but I would recommend spinrite by GRC
[18:25] <intrader> llutz, I tried ipp://<IP_ADDRESS>:631/printers/HP_Deskjet_5400_Series and it configures a printer with uri localhost which is not <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:26] <pranjal710> but  spinrite is not free!! :(
[18:26] <MaskilPDX> yea, I know
[18:26] <Guest57497> doesnt kodak provide necessary software similar to cloud
[18:27] <bekks> kodak is dead, to be honest. :)
[18:27] <schnuffle> pranjal710: fsck is a tool to check partitoions
[18:27] <hash_> Can i just right click an iso and click write to disk... to create a install cd
[18:27] <Guest57497> having probs but still running on a lower rate
[18:28] <Guest57497> to hash no
[18:28] <intrader> Anyone, this is frustrating - why does ubuntu no detect a cups server on the network. I am configuring a printer, I use uri 'ipp://<IP_ADDRESS>:631/printers/HP_Deskjet_5400_Series' but printer applet insists on configuring localhost instead
[18:28] <hash_> Thats what i thought and i cant remember how i did it before
[18:28] <SO2012> +
[18:28] <CaptainKnots> I accidentally deleted the private ppa sources in ubuntu for software purchased from the software center. Is there a way to get them back so I can update the apps other than uninstalling and reinstalling all of them?
[18:29] <Guest57497> cuse burn an image in burner software
[18:29] <hash_> like brasero
[18:29] <Guest57497> dont know not tried
[18:30] <Guest57497> you should have an option to burn from disc image if a good burner software
[18:30] <user_> hye
[18:30] <user_> satu
[18:30] <crazydip> CaptainKnots: yes there is
[18:31] <xangua> !partner | CaptainKnots
[18:32] <cuqa> Hey, I am trying t install Ubuntu on an Dell Optiplex 740 machine. Problem is once the install navigation shows up and I select anything from it the machine freezes. Doesnt matter if I choose Install Ubuntu, or just help
[18:32] <crazydip> xangua: i think he meant those specialized repo's that you get with a hashed path
[18:32] <Guest57497> does this mean anything to anyone "68684 11194 38374 76940 02662
[18:32] <Guest57497> 80844 25463 89092 32723 48944
[18:32] <Guest57497> 60162 81855 34192 47854 09901
[18:32] <Guest57497> 97313 56004 73374 97465 91719
[18:32] <Guest57497> 55840 91561 49620 06817 73471
[18:32] <Guest57497> 53916 04111 69175 54222 04293"
[18:32] <FloodBot1> Guest57497: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:32] <cuqa> Is there maybe a command I can add that at least could show me an error?
[18:33] <crazydip> CaptainKnots: go into ubuntu software center -> file -> reinstall previous purchases
[18:33] <Guest57497> oops  sorry forgot about flood
[18:34] <crazydip> CaptainKnots: or if you want an actual repo url list:  https://software-center.ubuntu.com/subscriptions/
[18:34] <M1R4G3> Hello i have to recover a NTFS Partition, maybe someone have a idea?
[18:35] <crazydip> i wish ubuntu would not make it so insanely stupid to log into that list (no links on the page)
[18:35] <Guest57497> hi m1r4g3 have you tried partition magicc
[18:36] <M1R4G3> no i don't thanks for the answer i will try it :)
[18:36] <marijnsch> Just installed 12.04.1, but wireless doesn't work. Something with the firmware apparently. How do I go about upgrading that?
[18:36] <tiox> Parted Magic is a nice, free utility. Though if you're looking for Gibson's SpinRite, that stuff is everywhere. Not hard to find it (illegal) free.
[18:37] <crazydip> intrader: you should find all the information you need here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[18:38] <tiox> marijnsch: Run jockkey-gek / Additional hardware
[18:38] <tiox> jockey-gtk*
[18:38] <M1R4G3> Thanks for the help guys i will try it :)
[18:38] <Guest57497> too many k`s
[18:38] <tiox> Guest57497: No racism.  Hmm -- What hardware are you trying to get working?
[18:41] <GodFather> Guest57497, thx
[18:41] <M1R4G3> @tiox - is it possible to get parted magic on to ust flash stick, i don't have any CD's here :-/
[18:41] <Guest57497> your welcome
[18:41] <tiox> Yes!
[18:42] <marijnsch> tiox: something that is supposed to work with iwlwifi kernel driver, but there is a problem with the used firmware...
[18:42] <Guest57497> yep will fit ideal for disc recovery from boot if bios capable
[18:42] <cdan> hello
[18:42] <intrader> crazydip, I will read. It should be a lot simpler as the cups server announces itself. I have read that, when I use ipp://<IP_ADDRESS>:631/printers/HP_Deskjet_5400_Series the printer applet configures the locahost cups
[18:42] <tiox> Guest57497: Install unetbootin, then install through there if you want an easy solution.
[18:42] <marijnsch> tiox: it's a 24:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 (rev 34)
[18:42] <M1R4G3> thanks for the help tiox
[18:43] <rhollan> anyone have preseed experience here?
[18:43] <marijnsch> tiox: apparently the issue is fixed in quantal beta, so I need to upgrade kernel and/or firmware
[18:44] <jrib> rhollan: I don't but you're more likely to get help if you just ask your real question
[18:44] <witakr> Hey folks
[18:44] <Guest57497> hi witakr
[18:44] <witakr> Can anyone recommend an application for filling out PDF files?
[18:44] <rhollan> I want to reuse settings. For example, after interactively getting netcfg/get_hostname and netcfg/get_domain, I want to set the krb5-config server settings FROM them and not reprompt
[18:44] <witakr> heya Guest57497
[18:45] <rhollan> krb5-config/default_realm the tr [a-z] [A-Z] version of the domain, etc.
[18:45] <Guest57497> hey witaky what do you meen filling out
[18:46] <witakr> Well, I have some PDF files which are forms and instead of printing them and handwrighting them I want to be able to fill in the fields before I print the form.
[18:46] <witakr> Similar to NitroReader for windows.
[18:46] <tiox> marijnsch: See if you can't get away with using the latest version of the software.
[18:47] <Guest57497> you need a pdf editor similar to nitro to edit a pdf file directly
[18:47] <tiox> Ask what's involved in #ubuntu+1
[18:47] <witakr> yeppers
[18:47] <cdan> anybody here with a Latitude E5400 ?
[18:47] <Guest57497> n0 e1.19
[18:48] <Guest57497> n 53.28
[18:48] <Guest57497> oops w1.19
[18:49] <d1gital> Is there a netbeans package for PHP editing support?
[18:49] <d1gital> bluefish is starting to drive me nuts.
[18:50] <dubaco> xnox: bluz has not worked since 11.10 for me
[18:51] <witakr> Guest57497, n 53.28?
[18:51] <Guest57497> no n 53.28 w1.19
[18:51] <schnuffle> cdan: me
[18:51] <witakr> I don't understand what that means.
[18:51] <witakr> Sorry
[18:51] <rhollan> anyone know how to configure krb5-config preseed options based on already-obtained domain and host for netcfg?
[18:51] <marijnsch> how do I go about updating just the kernel/firmware?
[18:52] <Guest57497> sorry witajr different chat they are coordinates
[18:52] <cdan> schnuffle: is sound working ok for you ?
[18:52] <schnuffle> marijnsch: just install the new kernel and firmware
[18:52] <Eagleman> Any idea about this: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[18:52] <Eagleman>   linux-libc-dev
[18:52] <schnuffle> cdan: yes
[18:52] <marijnsch> schnuffle: but how? They are not there in synaptic, or?
[18:53] <cdan> schnuffle: I have ubuntu 12.04 TLS installed and the sound volume is very low
[18:53] <Guest57497> bye room thanks for help bye
[18:53] <cdan> schnuffle: I can bearly here something in the speakers with the volume turned 150%
[18:54] <cdan> schnuffle, any idea ?
[18:54] <schnuffle> cdan: hmm, have youn openend alsmixer to see how the levels are?
[18:54] <MaskilPDX> marijnsch, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:54] <cdan> schnuffle: sure, everything is 100%
[18:54] <marijnsch> MaskilPDX: won't that bring me from 12.04 to 12.10?
[18:55] <MaskilPDX> Yes, your right.  Sorry
[18:55] <intrader> Anyone, I have configured via the printer applet a printer connected to a Mac  ipp://<IP_ADDRESS>:631/printers/HP_Deskjet_5400_Series. The applet configures a localhost printer istead! Please help.
[18:55] <overclucker> marijnsch: dist-upgrade doesn't do that
[18:55] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | marijnsch MaskilPDX
[18:55] <MaskilPDX> OkropNick, now I am confused
[18:56] <Eagleman> Any idea about this: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[18:56] <Eagleman>   linux-libc-dev
[18:56] <Eagleman> SHould i proceed?
[18:57] <marijnsch> Pici: alright, let me give it a try. Is that different btw from jsut installing all updates in other ways such as thru update-manager?
[18:57] <Pici> marijnsch: its no different than using update-manager.
[18:58] <marijnsch> Pici: hmm, in that case I already tried it. It upgraded the kernel a tiny bit, but apprently not enough :(
[18:58] <AdvoWork> how can i make a symlink from a file called /etc/test/test.cfg to appear in /etc/test/auto called test ? ive done ln -ls /etc/test/test.cfg /etc/test/auto/test but it fails
[18:58] <M1R4G3> tiox are u there?
[18:58] <Eagleman> What faild AdvoWork?
[18:58] <schnuffle> cdan: not sure but have you checked bios settings, if there something to tweak?
[18:59] <AdvoWork> Eagleman, it said ls: cannot access test: No such file or directory
[18:59] <schnuffle> cdan: I can't check right now because i'm on a newer model
[18:59] <overclucker> AdvoWork: did you use sudo?
[18:59] <amine_> bonsoir  j arive pa a joit fr
[19:00]  * komer is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog On]
[19:00] <Eagleman> do it as root and recheck the source and destination of they exist
[19:00] <overclucker> AdvoWork: ah, create the directories first
[19:00] <Eagleman> they have to exist
[19:00] <cdan> schnuffle: do you remember tweaking something ? or did it work from the start ?
[19:00] <marijnsch> amine_: type /j #ubuntu-fr
[19:00] <AdvoWork> ahh fixed it thanks
[19:00] <schnuffle> cdan: as far as i rememeber it worked from the start
[19:01] <schnuffle> cdan: but i don't know if it was 10.04 or 12.04
[19:01] <cdan> hmmm
[19:01] <cdan> schnuffle, I'll try 10.04 live , just for a test
[19:01] <cdan> schnuffle, good idea
[19:02] <marijnsch> I'm on 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu, how do I go to 3.4 say?
[19:03] <amine_> join #ubuntu-fr
[19:03] <marijnsch> amine_: ne pas oublie le \
[19:04] <MaskilPDX> Do most people use Thunderbird on Ubuntu?  Sometimes it's laggy
[19:05] <MaskilPDX> marijnsch, I am also on 3.2.0-32
[19:05] <amine_> merci
[19:05] <marijnsch> MaskilPDX: it has a bug that's affecting my wireless..., so I need something newer
[19:06] <MaskilPDX> What wireless card do you have?
[19:07] <MaskilPDX> Here is a link for Kernel 3.6.1 -- http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/10/install-linux-kernel-361-on-ubuntu.html
[19:07] <Wizard> WHoa, what for?
[19:10] <CaptainKnots> crazydip: the repo url list is exactly what I was looking for
[19:10] <CaptainKnots> thanks
[19:10] <crazydip> you're welcome
[19:11] <Hellchico> Hi, can someone plz tell me where I can get help for a sound problem on 12.04?
[19:11] <Iszak> Can I completely install ubuntu 12.04 on my macbook air 2011 ?
[19:11] <Iszak> no dual boot, no boot camp, wipe OSX and ubuntu only
[19:12] <jrib> !mac | Iszak
[19:12] <amine_> bonsoir a tous
[19:12] <jrib> Iszak: should be fine though I don't personal experience with that particular model
[19:13] <Iszak> jrib what model have you used?
[19:13] <jrib> Iszak: macbook 4,1 but see the wiki
[19:13] <Iszak> jrib same one
[19:13] <Iszak> oh nvm, 4,2
[19:13] <jrib> Iszak: but mine is not an air
[19:14] <Wizard> *yawn*
[19:14] <jrib> Iszak: fwiw linus has a macbook air and runs linux on it...
[19:14] <Iszak> that page seems to think macbook air 4,2 was released in 2006
[19:14] <amine_> jai une  cle internete j  arive pas a instaler
[19:15] <Iszak> I think that page needs an update.
[19:15] <jrib> Iszak: how are you determining yours is 4,2?
[19:15] <Iszak> jrib system report
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[19:16] <jrib> Iszak: probably a mistake on that page
[19:17] <Iszak> so.. how to do it? that page doesn't help me unfortunately.
[19:18] <jrib> Iszak: why doesn't that page help you?
[19:18] <Iszak> jrib it doesn't list my model
[19:18] <jrib> Iszak: the model pages are really only relevant to fix small issues that come up after install
[19:19] <Iszak> jrib okay.. so then what page do I want to do a clean install of ubuntu?
[19:19] <bekks> The 4,2 is listed there.
[19:19] <bekks> "4,1 4,2
[19:19] <bekks> early/mid 2006
[19:21] <Iszak> except it's not 2006, it's 2011, and the url's next to it goes to an even older version.
[19:21] <jrib> Iszak: if you don't want to dual boot then you shouldn't have to do anything special, just run the installer and follow the instructions
[19:21] <Iszak> jrib alright, thanks - are you sure?
[19:21] <jrib> Iszak: I've never actually done it.  But that is my understanding
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> Iszak  best way to find out, is by trying, it then makes you the expert
[19:22] <Iszak> heh, thanks.
[19:22] <jrib> Iszak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation#Single-Boot:_Ubuntu_Only
[19:22] <saratsista> How can I install iptables into my ubuntu virtual machine?
[19:22] <Iszak> when will bunt get native EFI booting?
[19:23] <Iszak> thanks jrib
[19:23] <jrib> Iszak: i keep a small partition for os x so I can install firmware updates
[19:23] <skyline> hi
[19:24] <Iszak> jrib necessary?
[19:24] <jrib> Iszak: not necessary, but I then you won't get the updates from apple
[19:24] <islandmonkey> Hi skyline
[19:24] <skyline> How can I install iptables into my ubuntu virtual machine?
[19:24] <jrib> s/I//
[19:24] <jrib> skyline: you already have it
[19:24] <Iszak> jrib what good will the apples be to me? they don't effect the ubuntu hardware?
[19:24] <skyline> yeah
[19:24] <jrib> Iszak: there are firmware updates from time to time I believe
[19:24] <jrib> skyline: you already have iptables
[19:24] <Iszak> jrib how big did you make your partition?
[19:25] <islandmonkey> !iptables | skyline
[19:25] <klaxtr> hi, i wonder if it's possible to writte an script so the unity bar has the behaviour like tab changing, when i click on the icon in the unity bar can take me to the last active application... something like this, does any one knows if this can be done?
[19:25] <jrib> Iszak: I don't remember.  Probably whatever the used size was + 5gb
[19:25] <Iszak> jrib umm so full disk + 5 GB? impossible.
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> klaxtr  better ask in a scripting dedicated channel
[19:26] <Iszak> by default it uses the full disk, no?
[19:26] <jrib> Iszak: Well if my os x install was using 10GB out of 120, then I shrunk the partition to 15GB
[19:26] <OerHeks> klaxtr see my-unity tool to tweak the unitybar behaviour
[19:26] <viks> hey i am newbie in ubuntu......i want to know how to start programming for ubuntu app? can anyone help me with this
[19:26] <viks> ?
[19:26] <Iszak> jrib oh right, got it - thanks. will need to reinstall as this osx installation is pretty used.
[19:27] <ChrisWere> Hey guys. Nvidia-Settings won't pick up the correct resolution on my primary monitor. It worked fine until recently.
[19:27] <skyline> no. I couldn't download them. the apt-get is not working. I am getting an error called  Temporary failure resolving ‘archive.ubuntu.com’
[19:27] <bekks> viks: There is no "ubuntu app". There is just "start programming an application".
[19:27] <viks> bekks ....i mean that only ......
[19:27] <Iszak> jrib alright wish me luck!
[19:27] <jrib> skyline: couldn't download what exactly?
[19:27] <klaxtr> OerHeks:where is it...
[19:27] <jrib> Iszak: you won't ... need it
[19:27] <viks> how to start writing a script to change ubuntu according to needs
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> klaxtr  in the software center
[19:28] <OerHeks> klaxtr, see softwarecentre > myunity
[19:28] <klaxtr> OerHeks: can this behaviour be achieved with this appl
[19:28] <bekks> viks: Depends on what you want to change.
[19:28] <klaxtr> i have it install already
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> klaxtr  maybe you find what you need in the myunity tool
[19:28] <crazydip> viks: here is a good place to start - notice the "Programming Guides and Basics" post: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=39
[19:28] <ChrisWere> Hey guys. Nvidia-Settings won't pick up the correct resolution on my primary monitor. It worked fine until recently.
[19:28] <viks> just thinking it would be better if i can modify some things in unity lens
[19:29] <viks> thanks crazydip ...will look this up
[19:30] <crazydip> viks: how to create a unity lens: http://developer.ubuntu.com/2012/04/how-to-create-a-wikipedia-unity-lens-for-ubuntu/
[19:30] <viks> thanks dude.....
[19:30] <M1R4G3> @Hellchico install Gnome-Alsa-Mixxer maybe that will work
[19:30] <gregor3005> hi, i try to install ubuntu 12.04 minimal and i get an error that no network was detected with error "error whil running 'modprobe -v yenta_socket'"
[19:30] <crazydip> viks: you're welcome
[19:31] <gregor3005> with the desktop edition the network are detected
[19:31] <ChrisWere> Hey guys. Nvidia-Settings won't pick up the correct resolution on my primary monitor. It worked fine until recently.
[19:33] <ChrisWere> a little help maybe?
[19:33] <ChrisWere> hello?
[19:33] <ChrisWere> Hey guys. Nvidia-Settings won't pick up the correct resolution on my primary monitor. It worked fine until recently.
[19:34] <gregor3005> anybody know the right command from the bootmenu to install a minimal system?
[19:34] <M1R4G3> u can change your resolution into the settings for both dislpay/screens
[19:34] <ChrisWere> it's not picking up the correct resolution
[19:35] <_Trullo> how shall I put this line in fstab? sudo mount -t aufs -o br:/media/1/dir1=RO:/media/2/dir2=RO \ none /mnt/dir3
[19:36] <ChrisWere> is this the famous Ubuntu community support? It's a joke.
[19:36] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> haha
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> !patience| ChrisWere
[19:36] <M1R4G3> remove it and install  the nvidia drive again but just with your primary screen, put any other screens off
[19:37] <ChrisWere> M1R4G3: is that actual help or are you telling me to do this as a shot in the dark
[19:38] <skyline>     Hi I cannot download the ip tables for my ubuntu virtual machine. I am getting the error "Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead." and also "Temporary failure resolving ‘us.archive.ubuntu.com’
[19:38] <yekoms> ChrisWere, either take whats offered or dont, we wouldnt tell anyone anything that would cause intended harm.
[19:39] <witakr> Ok, Sorry I had to step away for a few. Does anyone know of a good PDF reader like Nitro for windows that will let the user fill the PDF forms out before printing?
[19:39] <jrib> skyline: why are you ignoring what I've told you?  I've told you twice now that you already have iptables.  What exactly are you doing now that is giving you the "... index files failed ..." output?  Use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste full input and output
[19:39] <M1R4G3> ChrisWere it's just a try, u don't have to do that maybe u can find another way to fix your problem
[19:39] <ChrisWere> yekoms: I don't mean anything by it, it just didn't sound like serious advice
[19:39] <jrib> witakr: doesn't the default one (evince) do that?
[19:39] <M1R4G3> I just try to help u and tell u my idea's nothing more
[19:39] <witakr> jrib, Does it? I don't know. I'm in Xubuntu 12.04 specifically so I don't know if I even have that one. one sec.
[19:39] <islandmonkey> !attitude | ChrisWere
[19:40] <yekoms> ChrisWere, it seems like he gave a valid test to start fixing your issue.
[19:40] <islandmonkey> ...or correct
[19:40] <jrib> witakr: I believe it does; I remember using it with my taxes :x
[19:40] <yekoms> cant fix without diagnose.
[19:40] <skyline> jrib: sorry, I do not have the iptables. even the command "iptables" is not working. I am getting error "bash command not found"
[19:40] <ChrisWere> islandmonkey: I apologise, I'm just had far too many bugs with Ubuntu, and I'm self employed so it costs me money everytiem something like this happens
[19:40] <gregor3005> only-ubiquity helps from the boot menu
[19:40] <jrib> skyline: did you see what I said about pastebin?
[19:41] <AdvoWork> if i cant run a server but have it mounted, how can i see the cronjobs for a specific user, are they stored in a file?
[19:41] <witakr> jrib, I don't see anything in evince that indicates an abililty to add text or edit. It appears to be only a viewer.
[19:42] <jrib> witakr: you should just be able to click on the text field you want to fill
[19:42] <jrib> AdvoWork: use crontab
[19:42] <AdvoWork> jrib, i cant boot the server
[19:42] <AdvoWork> so i can only access files on it :S
[19:43] <jrib> AdvoWork: is this still that really old ubuntu you have... ?
[19:43] <AdvoWork> jrib, nah, thats long gone, this is on ubuntu 10.04 server now
[19:43] <puddle> guys I am using Ubuntu 12.04.1 and I installed gnome but it will not install the latest gnome, how can i install the latest release?
[19:43] <jrib> AdvoWork: you could chroot or look in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/
[19:43] <AdvoWork> but ive just done another migration, and that server is now old, i cant boot it due to the same ip/conflics etc
[19:44] <islandmonkey> puddle: Wait 6 days and it will be with you (12.10 is coming :))
[19:44] <AdvoWork> jrib, thats empty :S this is also for a specific user too "zimbra" user
[19:44] <witakr> jrib, Ok ok ok. I think I should clearify. I forgot that you can make PDF forms to be filled without any special program but this particular form was designed to be printed and handwritten even though I have the option to type. That being said the fields are not editable fields but rather they are just lines.
[19:44] <ChrisWere> Okay I've restarted X with one screen, and I still can't find the right reslution
[19:44] <jrib> witakr: ah, there are certainly some tools that let you annotate PDFs but I don't remember their names
[19:44] <puddle> islandmonkey, you mean my ubuntu will upgrade to 12.10 or i have to install it? i dont want to install new ubuntu:p
[19:45] <yekoms> it should upgrade from -current- to -12.10- if you choose so.
[19:45] <islandmonkey> puddle: It won't automatically upgrade
[19:45] <puddle> but that wont be tls
[19:45] <puddle> lts
[19:45] <jrib> AdvoWork: you're sure /etc/cron.* or /etc/crontab wasn't used instead of the user's crontab?
[19:45] <ChrisWere> so what do I do now guys?
[19:45] <islandmonkey> puddle: Let me search for a PPA you could use, hold on
[19:46] <skyline> jrib: I pasted my input and output
[19:46] <witakr> I appoligize for the confusion but yes. Now that I remember the app I used in windows when I had windows mentioned it was an ANNOTATION program
[19:46] <isasha> Hai
[19:46] <puddle> either way is there a way to install the latest before 12.10?:p
[19:46] <isasha>  I have an issue with my display. It's telling me that the input mode is not supported, even in failsafeX mode… any ideas
[19:46] <isasha> ?
[19:46] <puddle> islandmonkey, ty :)
[19:46] <jrib> ChrisWere: if you're speaking to someone specific, please address them.  If not, then no one knows what you are talking about and you should just ask your (detailed) question on one line and be patient
[19:46] <witakr> jrib, ^^ forgot to add yu name to the line lol read up..lol
[19:46] <ChrisWere> jrib: They just went offline. Now I'm stuck in the middle of my probelm
[19:47] <isasha> jrib: should I be patient too?
[19:47] <isasha> for some reason people always forget what I asked
[19:47] <puddle> come on guys jrib is trying to help
[19:47] <puddle> :)
[19:47] <ChrisWere> isasha: join the club looks like jrib is the only one here who actually knows anything
[19:47] <jrib> isasha: it''s safe to repeat ~10 minutes depending on traffic in case someone else can help
[19:47] <isasha> oh
[19:47] <isasha> ok
[19:48] <jrib> skyline: you need to provide the url here in the channel to your pastebin
[19:48] <puddle> ChrisWere, i dont think it is a good idea to say that loud
[19:48] <islandmonkey> puddle: Well, there is the GNOME testing PPA: https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/testing
[19:48] <puddle> *out
[19:48] <skyline> jrib:http://paste.ubuntu.com/1275529/
[19:48] <jrib> witakr: I would just google "annotate pdf ubuntu" and look for hints.  One that comes up is "xournal" so you might try that
[19:49] <puddle> islandmonkey, well ty im not that brave:p
[19:49] <isasha> witakr: Xournal is actually real good
[19:49] <isasha> I use it to take notes in class with my gfx tablet
[19:49] <Jayflux> hey guys, when i do add user <username> pass for a user, they cannot log in to ftp. But when i do passwd <pass again> they can.
[19:49] <jrib> skyline: try "/sbin/iptables"
[19:49] <Jayflux> Whats going on?
[19:49] <witakr> jrib && isasha word. That sounds good I will check that. Thanks a ton.
[19:49] <Jayflux> adduser <username> -p pass I mean..
[19:49] <puddle> islandmonkey, i just wanted a version that can actually install extensions since the one in the ubuntu repo is not allowing me to do so
[19:49] <jrib> Jayflux: uh, are you sure you are using adduser?
[19:49] <puddle> but testing ppa is too risky
[19:49] <skyline> jrib: i am getting error : "No such file or directory"
[19:50] <isasha> witakr: do you have a graphics tablet?
[19:50] <ChrisWere> puddle: I'm sorry It's just is takes me half a day for anyone to help me, considering how often ubuntu messes up on me, I lose a lot of work hours trying to fox ubuntu
[19:50] <Jayflux> jrib sorry I think i mean useradd
[19:50] <jrib> Jayflux: that expects a crypted password there :)
[19:50] <chuckf> Jayflux: can the user log into the shell and not ftp when you do it that way?
[19:50] <puddle> ChrisWere, if you dont like ittry something else, but I doubt theres a better distro out there
[19:50] <puddle> :p
[19:50] <Jayflux> no im trying to automate this as much as possible. Its going to be an automated system so its scripted
[19:50] <witakr> I have a couple tablets, Kindle Fire (I know...) and HP Touchpad with Cm9... is that what you mean?
[19:51] <Jayflux> chuckf jrib ^
[19:51] <Jayflux> the end user won't have shell access
[19:51] <ChrisWere> puddle: I'm not dissing ubuntu as a distro, I'm just saying I spend a lot of time trying to fix it.
[19:51] <jrib> ChrisWere: you said you had the resolution before and then it just disappeared.  I'd try to figure out why that happened (what changed?) if you have no other advice
[19:51] <witakr> isasha, or do you mean a tablet for graphics designers?
[19:51] <isasha> yeah
[19:51] <ChrisWere> jrib: nothing changed. I've even reinstalled
[19:51] <isasha> though the way you put it makes it sound expensive
[19:52] <jrib> !resolution | ChrisWere
[19:52] <jrib> ChrisWere: there are some tips there for adding another resolution
[19:52] <puddle> ChrisWere,  imagine back when debian was only installable through console no fancy stuff, that took some time, doing your kernel by hand :p
[19:52] <islandmonkey> puddle: That's funny. GNOME 3.2 is the version in precise (the one that supports extensions).
[19:52] <puddle> this is just child game
[19:52] <witakr> isasha, No. I don't I use a trackball. I want a tablet but I can't justify the expense because I do fine for my needs with my marble trackball
[19:52] <jrib> skyline: how did you install this ubuntu?
[19:52] <islandmonkey> puddle: And I need to go to the loo, wait one moment
[19:52] <puddle> islandmonkey, hm thats funny extnesions.gnome.org says i have a version that doesnt allow me to install them
[19:52] <isasha> you'll be able to find one for less than 50$, and they're amazing
[19:52] <Treize> is there a universal method in linux to set default programs or does it depend on the desktop environment? for example setting the default text editor for .txt
[19:53] <isasha> I have a Wacom Bamboo pen & touch, and it's phenomenal
[19:53] <ChrisWere> puddle: I guess ubuntu isn't stable yet. Hopefully one day it'll get there
[19:53] <isasha> Several other people now do the same thing because of me
[19:53] <witakr> isasha, I hear they are really nice to have. I like to draw and sketch and that would, I would think, be a fairly easy transition for me.
[19:53] <puddle> ChrisWere, wel the last 10 years I was waiting for Linux to become as you say stable
[19:54] <puddle> didnt happen so far:P
[19:54] <puddle> I wouldnt wait for that to happen anytime soon, but itsg etting there, thus im considering leaving windows completely
[19:54] <witakr> isasha, you mean for actual graphics design or for normal everyday use?
[19:54] <isasha> well the fact that my mom can use it straight away should give you an indication of how easy it is
[19:54] <ChrisWere> puddle: I know right. It's cost me a fortune
[19:54] <Beta2K> Hello all
[19:55] <isasha> witakr: both actually
[19:55] <Beta2K> Anyone run into mysql deciding not to start after a reboot on 12.04?
[19:55] <puddle> ChrisWere, what did cost you a fortune?
[19:55] <puddle> -.-
[19:55] <jrib> Beta2K: no one
[19:55] <ChrisWere> puddle: using ubuntu on my computer I use for work
[19:55] <jrib> Beta2K: (you should just say what your issue is)
[19:56] <puddle> Beta2K, what did you do to it before restart? OO
[19:56] <witakr> isasha, hmm. Sounds interesting. Maybe I will have to check it out. Can you suggest a good model for graphics design?
[19:56] <Beta2K> I had mysqld running, added some databases, a few weeks and reboots go by, go to use it again and it's not running
[19:56] <isasha> witakr: well I dunno
[19:56] <puddle> ChrisWere, I do not want to be a jerk but thats probably not Ubuntu's fault
[19:56] <skyline> jrib: I downloaded this from my college website.  I am competing in a challenge given by my professor. I am new to linux.
[19:56] <Beta2K> try to start it with sudo service mysql start and get "start: Job failed to start"
[19:56] <isasha> I just use a Wacom Bamboo, the cheapest one I could find with decent reviews
[19:56] <jrib> Beta2K: can you start it now, with the "service" command?
[19:56] <gswain> so is it pretty easy to grow and shrink the size of and lxc container?
[19:56] <jrib> skyline: downloaded what exactly?  Some sort of virtual image?
[19:56] <islandmonkey> puddle: Right, back.
[19:56] <skyline> yes
[19:56] <gregor3005> is it possible to install ubuntu on a given encrypted partition with lvm?
[19:57] <Beta2K> Nothing appears to be going into the mysql logs
[19:57] <puddle> ChrisWere, first off you should not use a system for work if you are not experienced with it
[19:57] <islandmonkey> !lvm | gregor3005
[19:57] <isasha> The resolution isn't as good as I would like it to be, but more than enough for every day use. You could go up all the way to a Cintiq which costs like 2000 bucks… so it's up to you witakr
[19:57] <puddle> islandmonkey, okay ty for the help btw
[19:57] <jrib> skyline: well it's a pretty strange ubuntu install if you don't have /sbin/iptables.  What happens when you try to use apt-get (use pastebin)?
[19:57] <thechaser> i know thius is prolly the wrong place to ask... but there irc channel isnt work anyone know anything about aircrack?
[19:57] <timer_> Hi
[19:57] <puddle> ChrisWere, you should work on a system you know and learn the one you desire to use later on, thats what im doing
[19:58] <islandmonkey> puddle: OK, so make sure you are installing them while on GNOME
[19:58] <ChrisWere> puddle: perhaps but they say it's far more stable than it is. They say the communtiy support is better than it is. But I've been using ubuntu for a good few years, and it still comes up with bugs and errors I've never seen before
[19:58] <jrib> thechaser: sorry, not supported here
[19:58] <skyline> jrib: how can I record the input and output from the command line?
[19:58] <isasha> thechaser: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+use+aircrack
[19:58] <jrib> skyline: are you in a graphical environment?
[19:58] <puddle> ChrisWere, thats because Linux is actually being developed continuously
[19:58] <Flannel> isasha: Please never answer questions like that.  Thanks.
[19:58] <thechaser> thanks.. uyeah i just had a small problem but figured it out sorry for the bother
[19:58] <Beta2K> there's a bit in the syslog about init: mysql main process being terminated and respawned
[19:58] <skyline> no. I am in shell
[19:58] <puddle> whilst other systems are only fixed from time to time and only major releases are new
[19:58] <isasha> Flannel: :D
[19:58] <timer_> I have a problem with serial connection
[19:59] <jrib> !who | Beta2K
[19:59] <Beta2K> tas well as  type=1400 audit(1350071838.574:39): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" name="/usr/sbin/mysqld" pid=2555 comm="apparmor_parser"
[19:59] <puddle> islandmonkey, thatsa no brainer:p
[19:59] <timer_> I use cutecom and it doesn't connect
[19:59] <islandmonkey> puddle: Are you using Chrome?
[19:59] <puddle> yup
[19:59] <islandmonkey> puddle: Right, try using Firefox.
[19:59] <puddle> islandmonkey, okay gona try that
[19:59] <timer_> but in /proc/tty/driver/serial is an uart
[20:00] <Beta2K> jrib, sorry I was trying to give as much information to everyone hoping someon had seen this behaviour before
[20:00] <witakr> isasha, lol if I made graphics design my profession then i could see spending 2k on one but I think my limit might be in the 100-200 range..lol
[20:00] <ChrisWere> puddle: anyways.after all this advice I still can't get the resolution 1280x960 to show up in nvidia-settings
[20:00] <isasha> you may want to check out your junkyard, I wound a Wacom Intuos 3 there a couple of months ago
[20:01] <witakr> isasha, Half the fun of buying things online for me in the research and reading reviews so i think when I am ready to actually buy I will find something suitable.
[20:01] <jrib> Beta2K: can you verify there's no "mysqld" process running? Then I'd suggest trying to start it without using "service" and instead just calling the command the service command tries to call (I don't know how to really debug upstart services)
[20:01] <puddle> ChrisWere, I am just thinking out loud but back when we had to configure x by xorg.conf or whatever, we only had to add it to the file and it worked
[20:01] <isasha> witakr: are you going to use it for taking notes or for graphic design though?
[20:01] <puddle> maybe something similiar will work for you too?
[20:01] <Beta2K> jrib, no mysqld isn't running (ps xa | grep mysql)
[20:02] <puddle> Beta2K, usually when something like this happens means you did something that breaks the server, config or peration
[20:02] <ChrisWere> puddle: every time someone on here's told me to edit x, it's always broken it
[20:03] <puddle> ChrisWere, well that is tricky but backup your conf before editing
[20:03] <puddle> and you are all set even if u mess it up
[20:03] <crazydip> ChrisWere: ware you using open or closed source drivers?
[20:03] <Beta2K> puddly, I haven't touched the config, but it may have been upgraded by apt
[20:03] <Eagleman> Any idea about this: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[20:03] <Eagleman>   linux-libc-dev
[20:03] <puddle> id try to remove mysql and reinstall it maybe that will help
[20:03] <Eagleman> SHould i proceed?
[20:03] <puddle> but maybe someone clever will give u a better advice
[20:04] <puddle> tho apt will only update to stable release
[20:04] <puddle> so i doubt its the case
[20:04] <Beta2K> Problem with removing mysql-server is I'll loose the databases :)
[20:04] <witakr> isasha, graphics design and probably nothing else. I have an unnatural adoration for my trackball...lol I love using my track ball. But I do quite a bit of graphics design for my own purposes and so then it wouldn't be a device I would use for normal computer use. just graphics design.
[20:04] <islandmonkey> Eagleman: Yes
[20:04] <puddle> did you work on your databases before restart?
[20:04] <puddle> i mean in that session
[20:05] <isasha> Ok then you should probably get a used intuos
[20:05] <isasha> it's cheaper than a new one
[20:05] <jrib> please use #ubuntu-offtopic for the non-support discussions
[20:05] <Eagleman> islandmonkey isnt it unsafe?
[20:06] <islandmonkey> Eagleman: Do sudo apt-get update and if anything fishy comes up at the end (like apt moaning about invalid signatures), try this: http://pastie.org/pastes/5044988/text
[20:06] <timer_> can someone help me with an uart-connection?
[20:06] <kthxbye> sudo apt-get is the god command
[20:06] <islandmonkey> Eagleman: No it isn't, the only place linux-libc-dev could come from is the trusted Ubuntu repos
[20:07] <user__> Anybody with experience in linux/BSD server PM me, please.
[20:07] <Eagleman> And what if the repo''s are filled with hacked files?
[20:07] <Lockscreen> Anybody with experience in linux/BSD server PM me, please.
[20:07] <Eagleman> cracked*
[20:07] <kthxbye> then switch to gentoo
[20:07] <crazydip> !question | Lockscreen
[20:07] <Eagleman> !pm Lockscreen
[20:08] <islandmonkey> Eagleman: Then it would be talk of the IRC channel and everything Ubuntu
[20:08] <[twisti]> hello, is there any up to date documentation for ubuntu lts 12 and dovecot ? or am i going to have to go through source to figure out how this is supposed to work ?
[20:08] <jrib> Eagleman: you should find out where that package is coming from
[20:08] <kthxbye> !question | lockscreen
[20:08] <jrib> [twisti]: doesn't the server guide at help.ubuntu.com cover it?
[20:08] <Eagleman> any idea on how to jrib?
[20:08] <jrib> Eagleman: apt-cache policy PACKAGE
[20:09] <[twisti]> jrib: no. its just copy and paste from 10, but its wrong. the actual dovecot stuff has been updated
[20:09] <FloatingGoat> does anyone know the name of the gui network manager?
[20:09] <jrib> [twisti]: we're talking about https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/dovecot-server.html ?
[20:09] <[twisti]> to support, as far as i can tell, dynamic updating of email protocols, because theres a new one every week
[20:09] <[twisti]> yes
[20:09] <Eagleman> jrib looks like it is coming from ubuntu
[20:09] <jrib> Eagleman: pastebin
[20:10] <jrib> FloatingGoat: it's actually called... *drumroll*... NetworkManager
[20:10] <Eagleman> http://pastebin.com/mQC2S978
[20:10] <kthxbye> its ALL AMD64
[20:10] <crazydip> timer_:  check out gtkterm or http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/find-out-linux-serial-ports-with-setserial/
[20:10] <[twisti]> i just want to find out how to enable pop3s
[20:10] <Eagleman> it comes from security but the package isnt secure
[20:10] <jrib> Eagleman: can you pastebin the warning you got earlier too?
[20:11] <Eagleman> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[20:11] <Lockscreen> The entire project will need about 250 machines, and I want them to be dumb thin clients with no hard drive running a virtualized mirror of the server OS. want them to have Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Someone told me that the best way is a BSD server with cage linux for the clients, is that true? What system specs would I choose for both the clients and the server machine?
[20:11] <Eagleman>   linux-libc-dev
[20:11] <jrib> [twisti]: try #dovecot I suppose.  And if the guide is wrong, I'd urge you to file a bug
[20:11] <FloatingGoat> whats the name for instalatiom via terminal
[20:11] <jrib> Eagleman: can you pastebin the full outptu?  It's easier for me to keep track of things
[20:11] <islandmonkey> Eagleman: Then it's OK, it's probably related to a problem I had
[20:11] <jrib> !apt | FloatingGoat
[20:12] <[twisti]> jrib: its not wrong. its the guide for 10. it has nothing to do with 12, everything in it is for 10, not 12
[20:12] <Eagleman> http://pastebin.com/xBmvpTxD
[20:12] <jrib> [twisti]: then it's wrong since it's in the 12.04 guide
[20:12] <Eagleman> !guide [twisti]
[20:12] <Eagleman> Dont use guides, use manpages and build it urself
[20:12] <[twisti]> i suppose thats true
[20:12] <timer_> @crazydip, thanks I will take a look
[20:12] <[twisti]> Eagleman: that doesnt seem like sensible advice for an ubuntu channel
[20:13] <[twisti]> that sounds like a recipie for having all future updates be worthless or mess up your homebrewed crap
[20:13] <[twisti]> if i wanted to build everything myself i would have chosen to go with something like linux from scratch
[20:13] <Eagleman> Not at all, i was talking about building the config files or editing them
[20:13] <jrib> Eagleman: run « sudo apt-get update » and confirm the warning remains
[20:14] <Eagleman> it did not
[20:14] <jrib> Eagleman: the warning went away?
[20:15] <Eagleman> Y
[20:15] <[twisti]> the config files are not the way dovecot expects them
[20:15] <Eagleman> Which config files?
[20:15] <[twisti]> its some weird dynamic crap that someone apparently decided was the new way for ubuntu 12
[20:15] <islandmonkey> Eagleman: Did it come up with this at the end however (see line 424)?: http://pastebin.com/mjGE3Dbv
[20:15] <[twisti]> /etc/dovecot/*
[20:16] <[twisti]> its like 30 files that get dynamically included for god knows what purpose
[20:16] <jrib> [twisti]: there might be something useful in /usr/share/doc/dovecot*/README.Debian
[20:16] <Eagleman> it did not
[20:17] <islandmonkey> Oh nvm then
[20:17] <Eagleman> [twisti] those files are supposed to be there, read http://wiki2.dovecot.org/BasicConfiguration
[20:17] <phaedral> looking for laid-back, distro-agnostic, quick grasp of difference between ubuntu-studio and debian with the right tasksel
[20:18] <Eagleman> using turtorials or howto''s from google will get you even in more trouble, they are out of date or wrong
[20:18] <phaedral> Most important, I think, is getting the right kernel; don't know if the debian tasksel for av production does that automatically
[20:19] <phaedral> Eagleman: They're great...if one consumes wisely, checks the milk-carton before drinking, etc.
[20:19] <Eagleman> can i switch the kernel without restarting?
[20:19] <phaedral> Eagleman: +1 question, I want answer too.
[20:20] <genii-around> Eagleman: Not usually
[20:20] <islandmonkey> Eagleman: I think that's impossible.
[20:20] <Eagleman> doing an apt-get dist-upgrade and was wondering, i remembered my teacher saying something about it
[20:20] <[twisti]> Eagleman: thanks, i must have been looking at the 1.x wiki
[20:20] <genii-around> islandmonkey:  With ksplice it's possible
[20:20] <Eagleman> [twisti] i had the same problem
[20:20] <phaedral> I think I've actually got my question sorted out and feel a little bad about starting at the wrong end of it, and in the wrong channel. :(
[20:22] <puddle> islandmonkey, you were right firefox solved my issue:p
[20:22] <puddle> ty
[20:24] <islandmonkey> puddle: There has been a longstanding issue with Chrome (and other WebKit browsers) that means the site is unable to check the version of GNOME running
[20:25] <islandmonkey> !yay | puddle
[20:25] <AresTheLion> question, backports are kind of badly described at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports, can someone describe them to me?
[20:28] <Dr_willis_> !backports
[20:28] <puddle> islandmonkey, well i shouldve known since im a webdeveloper, thought of it but i was like, nah it must be something else
[20:28] <puddle> :P
[20:29] <JoeyJoeJo> How can I add an option to the kernel line in grub.cfg?
[20:29] <Dr_willis_> So a version of say...  gedit in 12.10 might/could get 'backported' to earlier releases.
[20:29] <Dr_willis_> But its  not really common. ;)
[20:29] <AresTheLion> So, if im going to download crunchbang is it necessary to get backports?
[20:29] <guntbert> JoeyJoeJo: edit /etc/default/grub   (and remember to rund sudo update-grub afterwards)
[20:30] <puddle> hm wish everpad would work under gnome -.-
[20:30] <Dr_willis_> backports is a repository of some packages...
[20:30] <jayar> when i'm using rythm box, i make the playlist, then send to burn, and it opens Brasero, but it burns it as audio CD...
[20:30] <Dr_willis_> AresTheLion,   cruchbang has its own support channels you may want to ask  this on.
[20:30] <jayar> how do i tell it to burn an mp3 cd (data) ?
[20:30] <AresTheLion> Dr_willis, Yes, but backports are native to Ubuntu I thought
[20:31] <Dr_willis_> AresTheLion,  no idea how crunchbang uses the defaultubuntu repos or not.
[20:31] <AresTheLion> kay
[20:31] <Dr_willis_> its just a 'specialized' repository for containign apps that might  have been bacported from newer releases
[20:34] <ChrisWere> puddle: okay so I've tried just about everything. I'm still at a loss
[20:34] <puddle> ChrisWere, whats the issue again? I am kinda lost atm
[20:35] <ChrisWere> puddle: my screen resolution 1280x960 has disappeared from nvidia-settings
[20:35] <puddle> ow yeah
[20:35] <ChrisWere> puddle: i thought it might have had something to do with dual monitors but I've removed my second
[20:36] <puddle> well you either search for an other driver (remove existing one before of course) or reinstall it remove old before again
[20:36] <puddle> that is what I would do
[20:36] <puddle> well it very well could be that
[20:36] <ChrisWere> puddle: my driver is the offical nvidia one. I can't get support from anywhere if i change it out.
[20:36] <puddle> well i wouldnt expect much from the official one
[20:37] <ChrisWere> puddle:removing my 2nd monitor was the first thing I did. Considdering Linux is designed for vteran computer users, I think it's really silly that support for dual monitors isn't that great. The offical one is the only one that seems to have any support or endorsment
[20:38] <puddle> i doubt that but maybe someone more experienced can help you with it more then I can
[20:38] <islandmonkey> Can MATE be used with Unity installed?
[20:38] <ChrisWere> puddle: yeh but there's no-one mroe experienced here
[20:39] <puddle> i doubt taht too:p
[20:39] <MaskilPDX> ChrisWere, You may have already said this, 32 or 64 bit?
[20:39] <islandmonkey> Or, to rephrase that, is there a way for MATE to work without uninstalling Unity
[20:39] <islandmonkey> ?
[20:39] <puddle> islandmonkey, what are you using now? unity?
[20:39] <islandmonkey> Yep
[20:39] <ChrisWere> MaskilPDX: I'm running 64bit version of ubuntu
[20:39] <puddle> islandmonkey, well cinnamon, kde, gnome unity works here for me all installed
[20:40] <MaskilPDX> I had issues with 64, went to 32bit
[20:40] <puddle> mate  should i guess work too
[20:40] <MaskilPDX> ChrisWere, Expecially with video
[20:40] <ChrisWere> MaskillPDX: I considdered that, but I have 8gig of ram
[20:40] <Dr_willis_> cant say ive had any issues with 64bit on my nvidia systems.
[20:40] <puddle> 64bithere too but i did not use my 2nd monitor yet tho
[20:41] <islandmonkey> puddle: I know it doesn't work, I was asking if there was a way for MATE to work with Unity installed. :)
[20:41] <MaskilPDX> Me too.  32 bit with pae kernel, no problem
[20:41] <Dr_willis_> islandmonkey,  id have to suggest the mate homepage/forum/support areas  since its not part of ubuntu;s repos
[20:41] <puddle> islandmonkey, yeah I noticed I was just trying to say it should work as the other ones do :P
[20:41] <ChrisWere> MaskillPDX: It used to work okay. But today for some reason it didn't want to comply.
[20:41] <MaskilPDX> ChrisWere, ok
[20:42] <MaskilPDX> Just a thought
[20:43] <ChrisWere> MaskilPDX: And to be honest everytime I come on here for advice, the useual advice I get is to do a re-install or to switch distros. I'd rather not do that this time
[20:44] <MaskilPDX> ChrisWere, I understand.  I did not have any issues with 64 bit 12.10 when it first came out.
[20:45] <MaskilPDX> I just stuck with 32 bit and pae.  No reason to go 64 bit
[20:45] <MaskilPDX> maybe next week, it will be better?
[20:45] <MaskilPDX> with the release of 12.10
[20:45] <ChrisWere> MaskillPDX: I lose 4 gig of RAM if I go 32bit
[20:45] <Dr_willis_> 64bit can be a bit faster in compiutationally intense tasks. :) like viden reencoding
[20:45] <Dr_willis_> PAE kernel lets you use all your ram Chris_0076
[20:45] <Dr_willis_> oops chrisward
[20:46] <Dr_willis_> I give up.  Do you install PAE kernal from the repos?
[20:47] <Dr_willis_> pae kernel is the default for 32bit installes i think on 12.04+
[20:47] <Dr_willis_> except on Lubuntu and perhaps xubuntu.
[20:48] <MaskilPDX> Installs automaticly
[20:48] <flash_> Hi guys. I need a lifesaver. I have just accidentally copied one file to another location and overwritten the destination file. I need that file back. How do I do it?
[20:48] <MaskilPDX> yea Dr_willis_
[20:48] <RWOverdi1k> Gwibber is not connecting to facebook. It's just saying "Success" and that's it. Why?
[20:49] <bekks> flash_: By grabbing your backup and restoring that file from your backup.
[20:50] <flash_> I have not manually created a backup.
[20:50] <bekks> Then you've lost that file.
[20:50] <flash_> It's a php file that I've opened with vim.
[20:50] <flash_> Is there some way it might have been saved to some location?
[20:51] <bekks> flash_: Nope.
[20:51] <bekks> flash_: Do you have the original file still open in some vim?
[20:51] <flash_> I don't.
[20:52] <bekks> Then you've lost it.
[20:53] <trism> RWOverdi1k: bug 1058672
[20:54] <RWOverdi1k> trism: I'm not getting a security warning.
[20:54] <RWOverdi1k> Ah I see.
[20:54] <RWOverdijk_> That's annoying.
[20:54] <RWOverdijk_> It's integrated but not functional. :p
[20:57] <herpladee> nautilus keeps crashing for no apparent reason and with no error messages, where does it log stuff for me?
[20:58] <ChrisWere> so guys is that what the leading piece of advice is? reinstall my distro?
[20:58] <Dr_willis_> ChrisWere,  im not clear on what the original problem is/was/ ;)
[20:59] <ChrisWere> Dr_willis_: cricky! if I'm not being told to be patient, I'm being told to repeat the problem YET AGAIN! I can't get the resolution 1280x960 to appear in my Nvidia-Config and it was there this morning
[21:00] <gridwest> Does the Python library miniUPnP come with ubuntu 12.04?
[21:00] <Dr_willis_> so theres higher res's avail? or you have lost the highest it could do?
[21:00] <yekoms> everytime i issue 'apt-get install package' i get FATAL -> Failed to fork., ive googled and found that im out of ram, what else can cause this?
[21:00] <crazydip> ChrisWere: you're not paying attention
[21:00] <ChrisWere> Dr_willis_:I've lost the highest I could do, it's just dissapeared
[21:01] <ChrisWere> crazydip:what?!
[21:01] <crazydip> ChrisWere: are you using open or closed source nvidia drivers?
[21:01] <Dr_willis_> ChrisWere,  but all the other res's are still there?   this a hdmi or vga monitor? or built in laptop?
[21:01] <bekks> yekoms: Investigate the output of "ps aux"
[21:01] <Dr_willis_> what is the hightest res it will let you do?
[21:01] <yekoms> thats what i thought, i dont get the error, but someone installing eggdrop via apt-get is.
[21:01] <ChrisWere> crazy: it's a vga, I used to have to have a 2nd which was a vga going to a HDMI through a converter
[21:02] <bekks> yekoms: Pastebin the output please.
[21:02] <ChrisWere> Dr_willis_ :the resolutions go up to 1152x864
[21:03] <Dr_willis_> this is a LCD monitor? Some of the res's seem very... weird. ;)
[21:03] <ChrisWere> Dr_willis_:No it's a regular one
[21:04] <Dr_willis_> its an old fashioned VGA Tube type Moniotor that can do 1280x960?  Thats somthing id never seen befor.
[21:04] <MindALot> ubuntu masters, I need your help
[21:04] <ChrisWere> Dr_willis_: does this mean your giving up on me?
[21:05] <MindALot> specifically - I cannot seem to find a way to change my default sound to NOT use my headset when it is plugged in
[21:05] <MindALot> note : currently, not running pulseaudio,  speakers do work if I unplug the headset from the front jack
[21:05] <Dr_willis_> ChrisWere,  how i recall it working. X/drivers query the monitor and the monitor reports back wht modes it can handle. those hdmi/vga adaptors can confuse the process. but you said its just a straight vga connection correct?
[21:06] <ChrisWere> Dr_willis_: yeah it's only when I try using the 2nd monitor where I need to use a converter
[21:06] <MaskilPDX> Dr_willis_, Bad able maybe?
[21:06] <MaskilPDX> sorry.. cable
[21:07] <Dr_willis_> well for starters id run the 'nvidia-settings' tool and make sure you are in fact using the nvidia driver, not some other driver.  I think the xrandr command can report what modes the monitor 'reports' back that it can use.  double check that the mode is being reported back.
[21:07] <Dr_willis_> it might be possible to have xrandr force the mode.
[21:09] <ChrisWere> Dr_willis_ what command would I use to get xrandr to force the mode?
[21:10] <Dr_willis_> not sure. ive not used xrandr in ages.. Im on a windows box so cant check its options
[21:10] <Dr_willis_> i tend to just set my res to the native of the lcd and thats where it stays. ;)
[21:11] <genii-around> ChrisWere: There's some xrandr examples at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[21:12] <Dr_willis_> used to be xrandr diddnet work properly with the nvidia drivers i recall. but i thought it has been updated these days.
[21:12] <ChrisWere> genii-around: I'm still a bit lost, any chance of a hand?
[21:13] <genii-around> ChrisWere: I'm not going to be here long enough, leaving work shortly.
[21:13] <zykotick9> Dr_willis_: rotate can still be an issue with nvidia & xrandr.  "issue" but still possible ;)
[21:14] <TJ-> Dr_willis_: the latest nvidia v304+ introduced full RandR support
[21:15] <zykotick9> TJ-: good to know, thanks.
[21:15] <ChrisWere> so what do this mean?
[21:17] <ChrisWere> i don't know how much more of this i can take
[21:18] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Have you pastebinned the "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" yet? That will reveal what the drivers know about the monitor
[21:19] <ChrisWere> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/R1QkYR4U
[21:20] <javierf_> hi!
[21:21] <TJ-> ChrisWere: "(WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-1"
[21:21] <TJ-> ChrisWere: That means, Unable to read the resolution data for the VGA device
[21:21] <TJ-> Chris_0076: I'd wiggle the connectors and cables if I were you!
[21:21] <TJ-> oops
[21:21] <javierf_> hi! How can I know which icon is using each indicator in unity's top panel? I want to try manually changing some, but can't figure out where to look, which ones are in use or which is the folder it looks at. Thanks!
[21:21] <TJ-> ChrisWere:  I'd wiggle the connectors and cables if I were you!
[21:21] <Chris_0076> TJ-, ok, will do
[21:22] <ChrisWere> tj-: really?
[21:22] <trism> javierf_: you can't tell just by looking at them, because each indicator can have multiple entries and they can be sorted separately, which are you curious about?
[21:23] <kulitorum> After changing monitor to an old 1920x1080 monitor, my resolution is 640x480 and I can't make it any higher. The monitor is using a 15pin D-SUB connector, so I guess there's no data communication. What do I do?
[21:23] <ChrisWere> tj-: did you mean me?
[21:24] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Yes :p
[21:24] <TJ-> Tab-completion error
[21:24] <ChrisWere> TJ-: I've tried do  I need to restart?
[21:24] <Dr_willis_> i recall ways to use xorg.conf to force differrent modes.
[21:24] <javierf_> trism, thanks, I'm trying to work with user status icons, those that show, for example in empathy, if you are online, not available, invisible...
[21:25] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Log-out and log-in to the GUI should be enough
[21:25] <trism> javierf_: ahh that would be indicator-messages which in 12.04 is manipulated with libindicate but in 12.10 will be using libmessaging-menu
[21:25] <_Trullo> how is this line gonna look in fstab? sudo mount -t aufs -o br:/media/1/dir1=RO:/media/2/dir2=RO \ none /mnt/dir3
[21:26] <TJ-> Dr_willis_: Looks like ChrisWere's PC is using the v295 nvidia drivers, so it won't have full xrandr support (only that metamode silliness)
[21:26] <kulitorum> Where is xorg.conf?
[21:27] <zykotick9> kulitorum: doesn't exist, by default.