[15:54] <ravigehlot> I have a very annoying problem with Eclipse. In order for me to compile my java program, I have to choose a main type in the compiler set up within Eclipse. But which one?
[15:56] <nthykier> ravigehlot: main type? You got a screen shot and did you install this eclipse from Ubuntu or from eclipse.org?


[00:05] <dmcglone1> Hi everyone
[00:05] <Cheri703> hi
[00:05] <dmcglone1> what ya up to?
[00:06] <Cheri703> cleaning up music collection
[00:06] <Cheri703> it has been and will be a LONG process
[00:06] <dmcglone1> ouch
[00:06] <Cheri703> yep
[00:07] <dmcglone1> My wife is on the phone with Time Warner
[00:08] <dmcglone1> we are thinking about telling AT&T to shove it
[00:08] <Cheri703> nice
[00:09] <canthus13> whee. Switching from crap to crap.
[00:09] <canthus13> Gotta love those choices. :)
[00:09] <canthus13> ALthough I have to admit I hear more bad about AT&T than TWC.
[00:10] <canthus13> then again, we don't get many TWC refugees here since our territories don't overlap much...
[00:10] <dmcglone1> yeah
[00:10] <dmcglone1> AT&T's customer service is crap!
[00:10] <dmcglone1> canthus13: what ISP do you have?
[00:12] <canthus13> the one I work for. :)
[00:13]  * canthus13 tries to keep his internet presence relatively separate from work.  Suffice to say we're a smallish regional cable company.
[00:13] <dmcglone1> I see
[00:14] <dmcglone1> TWC just gave me an offer for phone, basic cable and 7.0Mbps for 115.00/mo
[00:24] <canthus13> Not too shabby. we offer similar for about 99.
[00:25] <Unit193> What's the price for internet only?
[00:29] <dmcglone1> Unit193 I didn't ask
[00:30] <dmcglone1> they'll be out next monday to hook it all up
[00:44] <canthus13> dmcglone1: cable tends to be more reliable than DSL... as long as it's maintained properly.
[07:03] <Cheri703> woo for trying to sleep and not being sleepy
[07:04] <Unit193> Still at it? (a simple reminder that I should be asleep)
[07:05] <Cheri703> well, I've tried a few times to go to sleep, but either my brain is still moving, or I'm too hot, or whatever. just stressed I think
[07:05] <Cheri703> :/
[07:09]  * Unit193 is trying to figure out how to use LXC for virtualization
[07:10] <Cheri703> I'm trying to get this freaking ipod to format properly
[07:11] <Unit193> I'm not even sure if it can do what I want it to...
[07:11] <Unit193> ipod worth all the hassle?
[07:11] <Cheri703> if it saves husband pissing about not having an mp3 player and saves money on purchasing one...
[07:11] <Cheri703> I have time, I don't have money
[17:23] <Cheri703> I love it when I've driven 2 hours to SIT AROUND for at least 2 waiting for people to be in touch / open :/
[17:23] <Cheri703> in a snow storm
[17:49] <deejoe> uphill.  both ways.
[21:14] <bbb_> when i was your age..
[22:16] <BiosElement> I swear
[22:16] <BiosElement> If one more person
[22:16] <BiosElement> Sends me a rant about why Google is evil for dumping H.264
[22:16] <BiosElement> I'll install Win ME next time they beg me to fix their system >.>
[22:16] <Unit193> BiosElement: Google is evil for dumping H.264
[22:17] <BiosElement> ...I really hope you're joking
[22:17] <BiosElement> >.>
[22:17] <Unit193> (this is the first time I heard about it)
[22:18] <BiosElement> Just announced today
[22:18] <BiosElement> It's a total f*** fest basically
[22:18] <BiosElement> It's about time too really
[22:19] <Unit193> A faster one I hope?
[22:19] <BiosElement> Eh, it's debatable. It's being replaced with WebM basically
[22:19] <Unit193> as long as it works just as well or better I don't really care
[22:19] <BiosElement> Which, people are still mixed on
[22:19] <BiosElement> Personally I don't care
[22:19] <BiosElement> H.264 is a patented format with a cartel to attack people with
[22:20] <BiosElement> Meaning for all intents and purposes, it doesn't exist
[22:22] <Unit193> Wlcome back Cheri703
[22:23] <Cheri703> thanks, I'm home now
[22:23] <Cheri703> I was in lima, then bucyrus, now home
[22:39] <canthus13> paultag: blackmail?
[23:38] <Unit193> canthus13: is that what you do in your spare time?
[23:42] <canthus13> Unit193: Nah. Paul mentioned blackmail in his status...
[23:42] <canthus13>  -->  Put together a blackmail image. Made a dd image and encrypted it against my GPG key. Gametime.
[23:42] <canthus13> ^^ Paul's status.


[10:50] <scorpion> Seveas, tzconfig let me change timezone, it is configure correctly...
[10:50] <Seveas> dannyu502_, you did not enable any repositories :)
[10:51] <QMari1> PurpleMotion, do you know anything about name-tag labels and OpenOffice?
[10:51] <dannyu502_> seveas, lol how do i do that?
[10:51] <Tchaka> hello tous
[10:51] <Seveas> dannyu502_, sudo wget -O http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d969 -O /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update
[10:51] <dannyu502_> ok
[10:51] <PurpleMotion> QMari1:  actually, m8, I use KOffice, and I don't do much by way of making labels, sorry
[10:51] <dannyu502_> lemme put that it
[10:51] <dannyu502_> in
[10:51] <scorpion> PurpleMotion, that solution is the first i've thinked of, how can i change the update time?
[10:51] <fatcap> is there any way to make most of my windows transparent?
[10:51] <QMari1> It's okay. Thank you anyway. :)
[10:52] <Sav> My Wifi card is a "xircom RBEM56G-100", I cant get it to work, well, read about ndiswrapper but im unsure what file to load, any hints?
[10:52] <dannyu502_> seveas I got a : wget: missing URL.... then on the next line Usage: wget [OPTION] ... [URL] ...
[10:52] <salil> my kde keeps crashing.. any idea why...??
[10:52] <PurpleMotion> scorpion:  put it in /etc/crontab for every 5 minutes (make sure to dump the output to /dev/null or your mail file will fill up quickly)
[10:52] <fatcap> !transparent windows
[10:52] <ubotu> fatcap: I haven't a clue
[10:52] <Seveas> dannyu502_, my bad
[10:52] <salil> kaffine.. and kde
[10:52] <fatcap> !transparecy
[10:52] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, fatcap
[10:52] <ekimus> anyobody already tried the mezzo and orchestra desktop?
[10:52] <fatcap> ubotu, i hate you.
[10:52] <ubotu> fatcap: I don't know
[10:52] <salil> and other programs as well
[10:52] <Seveas> dannyu502_, sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d969 -O /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[10:53] <PurpleMotion> fatcap:  try transparency
[10:53] <dannyu502_> ok
[10:53] <scorpion> ok tnx
[10:53] <scorpion> i'll try
[10:53] <dannyu502_> seveas, ok. now should i search for linux 686
[10:54] <fatcap> ...
[10:54] <PurpleMotion> scorpion:  but you really want to look up whether or not there's a patch or a special kernel option for your RTC
[10:54] <Seveas> dannyu502_, sudo aptitude install linux-686 && sudo reboot
[10:54] <bkerley> is the torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 tracker down for everybody, or is it still possible for me to get the install/live dvd?
[10:55] <scorpion> PurpleMotion, yeah on the forums i've readed something like kernel options noapic
[10:55] <uthini> damned point to play install is possesed
[10:55] <Seveas> there is a dvd mirror, see wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[10:55] <uthini> i installed cedega
[10:55] <scorpion> but was referred to laptops
[10:56] <scorpion> i'm using an abit nforce2 system
[10:56] <uthini> Seveas, mounted iso will act like virtual cd's?
[10:56] <Blazer_ES> hmm so where can I read about dual booting?
[10:56] <topyli> how do you change default fonts in tk apps?
[10:56] <Seveas> uthini, not in every way
[10:56] <uthini> how not so?
[10:56] <Seveas> but for most purposes
[10:56] <bkerley> thanks Seveas , it's a mighty fast mirror too
[10:56] <Seveas> booting, cd copy checks etc only work on real cd's
[10:57] <Blazer_ES> so where can I read about dual booting?
[10:57] <yyc747> for some reason, ubuntu seems to be blocking ports arbitrarily.  I have the ports forwarded from my router, but ubuntu refuses to accept a connection from outside my subnet.  I've tried enabling the DMZ on my router, and pointing it to the machine in question, but nothing seems to work.  other ports to other computers have been forwarded successfully.  does anyone have any idea what's happening?
[10:57] <bimberi> Blazer_ES: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo\
[10:57] <bimberi> Blazer_ES: er, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[10:57] <uthini> gaming purposes? can i iso my run cd's and just leave them mounted?
[10:57] <Blazer_ES> Thank you bimberi!
[10:57] <bimberi> Blazer_ES: yvw :)
[10:57] <Seveas> uthini, depends on the copy protection
[10:57] <uthini> mkay Seveas, tx
[10:57] <Seveas> if there is none, then yes :)
[10:58] <Seveas> oterwise: maybe
[10:58] <neiras> Is there a proper way to remove all backports packages from my system?
[10:58] <fatcap> copy protection?
[10:58] <fatcap> whats that?
[10:58] <bkerley> something windows has
[10:58] <uthini> some discs go funky when u try to copy them
[10:58] <uthini> gfaah
[10:58] <uthini> why is the P@P auto installing cedega? i already installed the thing
[10:58] <uthini> funny thing
[10:59] <uthini> legitimate software is always more troublesome to insall :)
[10:59] <Blazer_ES> thats not how I have it, I have 3hdds and 1 can be formated for ubunutu
[10:59] <uthini> P2P*
[11:00] <Mez> neiras, remove it from your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:00] <filip_> is it some way i can make an icon on my desktop that make i get in to my hda5 ?
[11:00] <Mez> then,, go into synaptic, adn look at the "local or obsolete" section
[11:00] <Mez> and remove any with ~5.04ubp in it
[11:00] <Seveas> filip_, ln -s /path/to/where/hda5/is/mounted ~/Desktop/hda5
[11:00] <Mez> neiras, why do you want to remove them
[11:00] <topyli> Mez: link the mount point to your desktop
[11:00] <Mez> topyli, huh?
[11:01] <uthini> installing KDE for ubuntu keeps failing! do i need a faster net connection?
[11:01] <topyli> drag it from nautilus, or link it like a man (like Seveas told you)
[11:01] <neiras> Mez - firefox conflicts because of a bad package name, and I was looking for an updated ruby that was supposedly in backports, and is not.
[11:01] <dannyu502_> seveas, ok linux 686 is now installed ..... now what is it that i do with this again?
[11:02] <Mez> neiras, updated ruby WILL be in official backports
[11:02] <Mez> when elmo gets round to it
[11:02] <Mez> and the firefox issue = *shudderS*
[11:02] <dabar> sd
[11:02] <ReleaseX> could anyone help me install the latest drivers for orinoco?
[11:03] <Seveas> dannyu502_, reboot
[11:03] <dannyu502_> Seveas, I did
[11:03] <Seveas> and choose kernel 2.6.10-5-686 when booting
[11:03] <neiras> Mez - ruby on Ubuntu is broken at the moment - apps depending on Ruby on any other system may or may not work on Ubuntu, and all because the Ubuntu packagers put a Ruby prerelease in main and didn't bother to update it to stable
[11:03] <neiras> Shouldn't be waiting for a backport in this situation
[11:04] <savve> My Wifi card is a "xircom RBEM56G-100", I cant get it to work, well, read about ndiswrapper but im unsure what file to load, any hints?
[11:04] <dannyu502_> Seveas, ok... will that b a choice on my boot manager?
[11:04] <Seveas> dannyu502_, yes
[11:04] <filip_> Seveas: Should it be like this ln -s /dev/hda5 ~/Desktop/hda5 ?
[11:05] <Seveas> filip_, no
[11:05] <Seveas> you need to mount it first
[11:05] <uthini> Seveas, i'm having trouble browsing windows shares, i went onto a friends PC yesterday, but now it won't like it doesn't remember the password, or has the wrong info stored and is just defaulting to it neways
[11:05] <filip_> Seveas: how can i do that then?
[11:06] <Blazer_ES> During ubuntu installation will I have the option to choose wich hdd to use for ubuntu? and will Windows on the other hdd still be bootable?
[11:06] <dannyu502_> Seveas, ok. Now what?
[11:07] <dabar> sure, if you set it up right, Blazer_ES./
[11:07] <PurpleMotion> you're awful worried about keeping windows
[11:07] <QMari1> Blazer_ES, did you use Partition Magic? ;)
[11:07] <uthini> ubotu windows shares aren't loading
[11:07] <ubotu> uthini: I haven't a clue
[11:07] <uthini> ubotu windows shares
[11:08] <ubotu> uthini: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:08] <uthini> ubotu samba shares
[11:08] <ubotu> uthini: No idea
[11:08] <dabaR> !ubotu
[11:08] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:08] <uthini> ubotu samba
[11:08] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[11:08] <dannyu502_> Seveas, I rebooted my computer into kernal 10.5.686 ... now what?
[11:08] <oonoon> i dont have any /etc/grub.conf ... can i find the grub.conf elsewhere ?
[11:08] <Blazer_ES> I have one hard drive 80gb and thats the one I want to use for ubuntu I dont want to touch the other 200gigers of windows
[11:08] <dabaR>  /boot/grub
[11:08] <bimberi> oonoon: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:09] <oonoon> bimberi : thanks
[11:09] <PurpleMotion> be a man, nix your windows partitions
[11:09] <fatcap> dont
[11:09] <fatcap> your sound might not work
[11:09] <Seveas> dannyu502_, retry the sudo modprobe
[11:09] <fatcap> and you'll be sitting in silence like me
[11:09] <dabaR> Blazer_ES: just a sec
[11:09] <fatcap> :)
[11:09] <dannyu502_> Seveas, ok
[11:09] <PurpleMotion> oh man i think im gonna cry
[11:09] <PurpleMotion> ;)
[11:09] <filip_> seveas: i get it working
[11:09] <dabaR> good
[11:10] <PurpleMotion> Current song: 2. Techno Classical - Beethoven - Fur Elise (Trance Remix)
[11:10] <Seveas> PurpleMotion, ....
[11:10] <PurpleMotion> Seveas:  ,,,, (heh, i quit :P)
[11:10] <dabaR> ok, Blazer_ES.
[11:10] <Seveas> ok
[11:11] <Blazer_ES> go ahead
[11:11] <oonoon> i have to change the  'vga=' in the grub.conf, but in the menu.lst i dont find such a parameter
[11:11] <dabaR> Blazer_ES: you will be asked if you want to install the ubuntu over everything, or manually edit the partition table. You should choose the second, obviously. Set up the second hard drive for ubuntu, do not touch the first.
[11:11] <PurpleMotion> so add it
[11:11] <ReleaseX> could anyone help me install the latest drivers for orinoco?
[11:11] <PurpleMotion> vga=whatever
[11:11] <dabaR> Blazer_ES: one more thing, sec/
[11:11] <PurpleMotion> mine is vga=791
[11:12] <Seveas> oonoon, add it to the KOPT lines and run update-grub
[11:12] <oonoon> PurpleMotion : i dont find where to change the 'vga=' line... :-)
[11:12] <PurpleMotion> oonoon:  do as seveas said
[11:12] <oonoon> Seveas : KOPT lines ?
[11:13] <Blazer_ES> How do I prepare the 80gb hdd then? Ill format it to FAT32 from windows ok?
[11:13] <Kyral> hmm
[11:13] <Kyral> hehe
[11:13] <Seveas> # kopt=root=/dev/hda6 ro vga=773
[11:13] <Seveas> that line in menu.lst
[11:13] <PurpleMotion> why would you format a linux partition fat32?
[11:13] <Kyral> what the hell I'm bored and I expect breakage, but I'm a CS Major, if I cannot fix my own computer than what good am I?
[11:13] <nvidhive_> does ubuntu require 128-bit WEP? cuz I cannot seem to get 64-bit werking with ndiswrapper and this Realtek8180
[11:13] <dabaR> Blazer_ES: then, at grub(boot loader) install, it will ask you if you want to add grub to mbr, and you choose, yes, I do want it.
[11:13] <PurpleMotion> Blazer_ES:  just put in the ubuntu cd and tell it to use the 80gb hdd, it will do what you need
[11:14] <dabaR> Blazer_ES: you can format the second hard drive during install.
[11:14] <dabaR> and partition, and all.
[11:14] <dabaR> same as in windows install, and much better.
[11:14] <oonoon> Seveas : ok , i'll do so, but is that normal that it misses ?
[11:14] <Seveas> yes
[11:15] <PurpleMotion> yeah, the vga= line is purely optional
[11:15] <Blazer_ES> yeh but the 80gb is NTFS at the moment or does that just matter when resizing?
[11:15] <oonoon> PurpleMotion: so, what's the default value it takes ?
[11:15] <PurpleMotion> as different vga= lines will break different systems, it's typically omitted
[11:15] <uthini> Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: chidori". <--- samba browsing error, it doesn't ask me for a PW and i think it has the PW wrong
[11:15] <dabaR> completely unimportant, if you are going to delete everything on it.
[11:15] <uthini> how do i fix?
[11:15] <PurpleMotion> the default (omitting vga= altogether) is equivalent to vga=normal
[11:15] <oonoon> PurpleMotion : woouh, there's such a danger to change that ?
[11:16] <PurpleMotion> not a major danger, especially with grub where you can hit a key and turn it off before it takes hold ;)
[11:17] <Blazer_ES> Hmm I have another 60gig around but if I install it will be on a RAID controller while the other Windows drives are on IDE is that problem?
[11:17] <Seveas> no
[11:17] <topyli> oonoon: old monitors used to break but modern ones just complain :)
[11:18] <oonoon> topyli : gllub, i'm scared now, what must i do if things go crazy on the boot ?
[11:18] <PurpleMotion> Blazer_ES:  you're overcomplicating a very simple process ;) Just throw the cd in and go :) It won't hurt, we [almost]  promise
[11:18] <topyli> oonoon: the monitor will probably display "out of sync" or something. you reboot and try a different kernel option
[11:19] <oonoon> topyli : okok, ill try
[11:19] <Blazer_ES> Ok, Ill install the 60 giger now and try and install ubuntu on to it
[11:20] <Blazer_ES> Oh one last question, I have a amd64 cpu so I should definitely go for the 64bit edition right?
[11:20] <ReleaseX> how can you upgrade to the 2.6.12 kernel in 5.04 using apt-get
[11:20] <Seveas> Blazer_ES, not if you care about having flash and/or ndiswrapper
[11:20] <Seveas> ReleaseX, not
[11:20] <fatcap> hey i have some files and they are filename.o
[11:21] <fatcap> what do i do with them
[11:21] <fatcap> to make them work
[11:21] <fatcap> :\
[11:21] <Seveas> And you really shouldn't; 5.04 is not compatible with 2.6.12
[11:21] <PurpleMotion> whats the right way to spell inna godda davida?
[11:21] <PurpleMotion> like the opera song
[11:22] <ReleaseX> seveas, cause i want the orinoco drivers to be updated, but i can't figure out how to install them
[11:22] <Blazer_ES> So what is flash and ndiswrapper
[11:22] <micocrack> alguien que me ayude
[11:22] <fatcap> !es
[11:22] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:23] <Seveas> Blazer_ES, flash as in macromedia flash, ndiswrapper is for crappy wireless cards that have no proper linux drivers
[11:23] <fatcap> what about audio cards that have no proper linux driver
[11:23] <dabaR> fatcap: like?
[11:24] <fatcap> please make your question a little bit more of a question.
[11:24] <PurpleMotion> man and i thought *I* asked a million questions before i installed something
[11:24] <dabaR> like which cards.
[11:24] <dabaR> PurpleMotion: hi.
[11:25] <PurpleMotion> hai
[11:25] <fatcap> 0000:01:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International: Unknown device 4310
[11:25] <ompaul> dabaR, the top of the range yahamas afik (closed source muppets)
[11:25] <Concord_Dawn> fatcap, look for something similar to ndiswrapper, only for audio cards.
[11:26] <fatcap> how about someone tell me what these files with the .o exenstion mean
[11:26] <Kyral> Someone wanna call me stupid for upgrading to Breezy even when I know how to fix X
[11:26] <fatcap> and how do i put them to work on my system?
[11:26] <Kyral> .o are object files
[11:26] <ompaul> fatcap, they are object files - kind of like source on the way to executable to be bundled with other stuff to make a good world
[11:27] <fatcap> so how do i make my system use them?
[11:27] <fatcap> because if i knew that i could prolly fix my audio
[11:28] <ompaul> fatcap, it chooses to use them a part of a driver and the best book on drivers has to be the o'reilly one www.oreilly.com for a safari enabled version
[11:28] <ompaul> 45 day free trial of that
[11:28] <glDaher> how do I check to see if a demon (gamin) is running or not?
[11:28] <Blazer_ES> So I wont be able to see flash animations with amd64 version?
[11:28] <fatcap> im not trying to read a book.
[11:29] <fatcap> im trying to fix my audio
[11:29] <fatcap> i shouldn't have to read a book to do that...
[11:29] <Concord_Dawn> yes you should.
[11:29] <ethan_> Hello?
[11:29] <Concord_Dawn> :-P
[11:29] <Concord_Dawn> You have to read SOMETIME.
[11:29] <fatcap> i have plenty of books
[11:29] <ethan_> hellooo?
[11:29] <ompaul> glDaher, if the name of the daemon was - afik then 'ps auwx | grep afik'
[11:30] <brer_rabbit> so what do you expect fatcap everyone in here guide you for each step so that you can continue not to learn?
[11:30] <ethan_> I just got ubuntu installed but I'm having some troubles
[11:30] <ethan_> >
[11:30] <fatcap> ....
[11:30] <ompaul> !tell ethan_ about ask
[11:30] <ethan_> humm..
[11:30] <ethan_> alright
[11:30] <fatcap> brer_rabbit, where are you from?
[11:31] <ethan_> I have an iBook 500 mhz with a little more than 300 megs of ram, and its going extremely slow...
[11:31] <QMari1> Okay everyone, I figured out how to do those Avery name labels in Open Office. If anyone wants to know, you could always ask me. ;) Thank God!!! :)
[11:31] <brer_rabbit> fatcap why do you ask?
[11:31] <ethan_> Whenever I move the mouse with the trackpad, the mouse will lag a lot
[11:31] <fatcap> just wondering
[11:31] <ethan_> and not be very responsive
[11:31] <glDaher> ompaul: output is daher    16180  0.0  0.1   3036   728 pts/0    S+   00:30   0:00 grep gamin
[11:31] <glDaher> which means it is running, right? or are these zeros to mean anything else?
[11:31] <ompaul> QMari1, well write it down once, then you can point people to it, I guess it could be a bit oa process
[11:32] <ethan_> I'm also having troubles opening any programs after i log out and later back in untill i force restart
[11:32] <ethan_> ^
[11:32] <brer_rabbit> well fatcap if you are going to run linux, which is a good thing, you will need to do some reading whether it be ebooks or hardcopy books
[11:32] <fatcap> ...
[11:32] <ompaul> glDaher, no, that is the process that is looking for the process - see grep - grep is like a text version of 'find the following text in output that is coming your way'
[11:32] <ethan_> hmm...
[11:32] <fatcap> i have more books than you.
[11:33] <ubuntu> wassap!
[11:33] <savve> My Wifi card is a "xircom RBEM56G-100", I cant get it to work, well, read about ndiswrapper but im unsure what file to load, any hints?
[11:33] <dabaR> god
[11:33] <ethan_> ok...
[11:33] <ethan_> My computer is running really, really slow.  And I just installed ubuntu,  I'm using a 500 mhz iBook
[11:33] <brer_rabbit> and you would know that how fatcap?
[11:33] <popey> Has anyone here had much luck giving away lots of Ubuntu CDs in the office work place?
[11:34] <popey> (at work I mean)
[11:34] <phreakys> hello
[11:34] <ompaul> ethan_, we see that, now if anyone has an idea for you they will pass it on
[11:34] <ethan_> fine....
[11:34] <fatcap> how many gigs of ebooks you got?
[11:34] <fatcap> i got 12
[11:34] <fatcap> and a couple shelves full of real books
[11:34] <dabaR> popey: why would an answer to that be beneficial? are you thinking of doing it, but want encouragement?
[11:34] <phreakys> im trying to run pure-ftpd, but port 21 is blocked. how can i check what program is bugging that port?
[11:34] <brer_rabbit> then you have no excuse do you fatcap?
[11:34] <popey> I'm wondering how to word the mail to the bulletin board
[11:35] <fatcap> brer_rabbit, where do you live?
[11:35] <popey> "Want to give an old pc a new lease of life?"
[11:35] <oonoon> pff, didn't work;  the colored lines on the blank screen semed different when i added the  'vga=' but the problem remains ; except for the resolution (which changed a little bit), i think the problem of the nvidia is just present in the console mode
[11:35] <popey> or
[11:35] <popey> "Here, try Linux, it's quite nice" :)
[11:35] <popey> wondered what strategy others have used for introducing newbies at work
[11:35] <ompaul> popey, live or install, or both?
[11:35] <brer_rabbit> why fatcap?
[11:35] <popey> possibly non-computer experts
[11:35] <popey> both
[11:35] <popey> shipit sent me a wad
[11:36] <dabaR> finally, a linux that is easier to install and use than windows...:-/
[11:36] <dabaR> and then explain afetr the title...
[11:36] <fatcap> ...
[11:36] <ethan_> And I don't know why ubuntu is using pretty much all my ram, it didn't use this much in os x.... = /
[11:36] <fatcap> because i wanna see how many books you have.
[11:36] <popey> :)
[11:36] <fatcap> smarty pants.
[11:36] <dabaR> that there are a few things that need to be learned, but it is easier to use once you get it going, and a world of new opportunity opens.
[11:36] <dabaR> blah
[11:36] <DanteAlighieri> Anyone know how to mount drives connected to a SATA PCI-E card?
[11:36] <popey> yeah
[11:36] <dabaR> later.
[11:36] <brer_rabbit> fatcap... go play with your leggos an let the grownups work
[11:36] <popey> marketing blurb
[11:37] <fatcap> lol
[11:37] <ethan_> How long is it supposed to take to shut down?  Because I waited for quite a while a few times and I don't think its supposed to tak so long... = /  or is it???
[11:37] <owlmanatt> What CMS is the ubuntu site utilizing?
[11:37] <fatcap> just tell me where u live dude.
[11:37] <fatcap> since you're so grown.
[11:38] <QMari1> Are there any Linux programs that support the creation of .ico files?
[11:38] <fatcap> or else quit wasting my time.
[11:38] <ethan_> maybe theres some driver for the ibook trackpad to make it actually usable?  Because its lagging WAYY too much.. =-(
[11:38] <popey> QMari1: http://www.winterdrache.de/freeware/png2ico/index.html
[11:38] <brer_rabbit> ya know usually I would but you dont strike me as a very sane individual.  You want to attack when asked to read up on your simple questions and you want to brag about your superior this and that... I would rather you not know anything about me
[11:39] <ompaul> popey put up the the live this week and say - Paying for software, Forget Windows try this, its called Linux, this one does not want to install it does not touch your hard drive - you can enjoy a taste without making a commitment - , if you want to take it further take them out of pile two - so then go out and put 10 there remove one yourself after an hour - remove a few more later then restock higher
[11:39] <ompaul> popey,  :-)
[11:39] <fatcap> fatcap or else quit wasting my time.
[11:39] <popey> :)
[11:39] <brer_rabbit> I know what... fatcap how about /ignore... works for me
[11:40] <kafeine> fatcap this is NOT the channel to brag, offence, or plain old silly being rude
[11:40] <ethan_> -sigh-
[11:40] <fatcap> ....
[11:40] <brer_rabbit> he wont listen...
[11:40] <alex_> hi
[11:40] <ethan_> So is slow performance normal on a 500 mhz ibook?  It takes firefox about 30 seconds to open.  But usually doesn't end up opening anyways...
[11:40] <MrPockets> hey fellas,  can i download themes to switch up the way the tool bars or start menus look on my desktop?
[11:41] <MrPockets> im kinda getting sick of the dull grey on black
[11:41] <kafeine> MrPockets, yes you can
[11:41] <MrPockets> what are they called?
[11:41] <popey> MrPockets: yes, gnome themes
[11:41] <barbas> Hi everybody!
[11:41] <popey> MrPockets: http://art.gnome.org/
[11:41] <ethan_> ..
[11:41] <c0rrupt_> YO
[11:41] <ethan_> I'm not having a very good time with this...
[11:42] <ethan_> I didn't expect it to be so slow..
[11:42] <ethan_> nobobdy has any ideas???
[11:42] <ompaul> ethan_, I have no idea, but I do suggest you try a program called memtest to check your ram that seems not the best
[11:42] <popey> ethan_: I have a 500MHz PC and it's not rapid, but not too slow, but then it has 512MB of RAM
[11:42] <ethan_> ok where do i get that
[11:42] <popey> ethan_: it's on the ubuntu live cd
[11:42] <ethan_> well...
[11:42] <popey> ethan_: one of the boot options
[11:42] <ethan_> I dont' wanna have to download that..
[11:42] <brer_rabbit> ethan_, open a terminal window type top
[11:42] <popey> google then
[11:42] <barbas> Is there anyway to mount a SMB or FTP remote server to the local filesystem and access from simple program like nano, vi, emacs etc? Is there any plant to have it included in ubuntu in the future?
[11:43] <ethan_> yea thats what i've been doing brer_rabbit
[11:43] <brer_rabbit> ethan_, look to see what is using all the resources
[11:43] <ethan_> ok i've got it open
[11:43] <brer_rabbit> you can also type free
[11:43] <brer_rabbit> and look at how its set up
[11:43] <barbas> Any info would be usefull
[11:43] <brer_rabbit> usually debian based systems run significantly faster then rh based systems
[11:43] <martin> I have an issue with vdr. When is tart it i see: vdr[12602] : ERROR: illegal OSD device handle (-1)! in the syslog
[11:43] <ekimus> barbas: mount -t smbfs //path/to/remote/server /path/to/mount/point (probably use sudo or edit your /etc/fstab accordingly)
[11:43] <martin> anyone knows what's wrong?
[11:44] <ethan_> ~$ free
[11:44] <ethan_>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[11:44] <ethan_> Mem:        320664     263224      57440          0      12528     119668
[11:44] <ethan_> -/+ buffers/cache:     131028     189636
[11:44] <ethan_> Swap:       437584          0     437584
[11:44] <ethan_> oops...
[11:44] <Bags> any folks here know anythign about PPC?
[11:44] <brer_rabbit> ethan_, dont paste in channel
[11:44] <ekimus> Bags: like what?
[11:44] <barbas> thank ekimus I try it right now
[11:44] <ethan_> well sorry...
[11:44] <ethan_> ok so using about 263 megs out of 320..
[11:45] <popey> ethan_: paste your top in http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ there
[11:45] <ekimus> ethan_: and that is a bad thing?
[11:45] <popey> and specify no syntax highlighting
[11:45] <ethan_> ok i'll try that
[11:45] <popey> then paste the link it gives here
[11:45] <popey> so we can see it
[11:45] <Bags> ekimus, Hi. Thanks for answering. I've got a very sick G4 here. I've been trying unsuccessfully for over a week now trying to put Ubuntu on it, now it won't boot.
[11:45] <Bags> I can't get to OF
[11:46] <sn0n> hey guys.. couple questions.. first.. does the ubuntu installer resize ntfs and setup a dualboot with windows easily? and second.. would my aol using friend be able to connect online? (i have no experience with linux and dialup connections)
[11:46] <Bags> ekimus, I can't get to the OF console
[11:46] <thewob> Hi, all. Has anyone a skystar 2 DVB-Card working correctly under Hoary?
[11:46] <brer_rabbit> ethan_, the 500mhz risc processor runs a bit slow but still should be able to function effectively
[11:46] <brer_rabbit> you have enough memory too
[11:46] <ekimus> Bags: holding c to boot the cdrom?
[11:46] <Bags> ekimus, nope
[11:47] <popey> sn0n: I don't think it can resize NTFS, no
[11:47] <teressa> hello all
[11:47] <ekimus> Bags: during boot up hold down (and keep your finger on it) c to boot from cdrom on a mac
[11:47] <kafeine> sn0n, aol is easy. ntfs resizing - not gonna happen
[11:47] <sn0n> well there went that convert
[11:47] <teressa> I finally got GTKpod working, yay!
[11:47] <teressa> But...
[11:47] <teressa> I have a question
[11:47] <ekimus> Bags: http://www.jacsoft.co.nz/Tech_Notes/Mac_Keys.shtml <-- have a look at these codes, they'll probably help
[11:47] <Srekel> Hi, can someone help me with Jam? I've got a very simple program that basically just does std::cout, and Jam fails when it tries to link it
[11:47] <kemik> sn0n:  resize your partition from windows using 3rd party software, and install after that
[11:47] <teressa> when I close GTKpod, I have it automatically unmounting, but it doesnt work
[11:47] <teressa> it crashes instead
[11:47] <teressa> What should I do?
[11:47] <Bags> ekimus, I've tried the c key
[11:48] <MrPockets> hey, to install Logon managers,  do i just copy the gigantic code that it comes with into the termanial?
[11:48] <popey> FaeWolfe: go ahead caller
[11:48] <Srekel> I get this error: main.o(.text+0x14): In function `main':
[11:48] <Srekel> : undefined reference to `std::cout'
[11:48] <sn0n> kemik, like Partition Magic or watever its called?
[11:48] <kemik> sn0n:  yes
[11:48] <popey> MrPockets: there should be some instructions there
[11:48] <popey> sn0n: yes, pm is aobut the best one
[11:48] <Bags> ekimus, I've also tried trying to boot to the boot menu, but no joy there either..
[11:48] <ethan_> popey,  I can't copy it
[11:48] <MrPockets> i dont see any, but ill check the website
[11:48] <salil> how to add a mobile phone file system ??
[11:49] <dbernar1> do youi know what the wildcard char is for aptitude, like sudo apt-get install junior-*, but in  aptitude?
[11:49] <ethan_> every time i select it, the processes move and the selection goes away
[11:49] <FaeWolfe> lol popey thank you   I know when you're running windows there is a way to find out how much of your system resources are free.......can you check that in ubuntu?
[11:49] <popey> ethan_: stop top with q
[11:49] <brer_rabbit> ethan control c then scroll up n copy
[11:49] <popey> FaeWolfe: top is good for that
[11:49] <ethan_> good that works
[11:49] <dannyu502_> seveas, ok im back. What can I possibbly do to fixmy problem?
[11:49] <ekimus> Bags: have you tried to burn another cd (often just the cd's are bad, i read on the forums that a guy let the ubuntu install run for more than 48 hours, it took that long because of read errors from a bad cd)
[11:49] <sn0n> lol
[11:49] <teressa> Finally, you have to set up gtkpod to "eject" the iPod when it is closed. To do this, create a new file called ~/.gtkpod/gtkpod.out (create the .gtkpod directory in your home directory first) containing the following text:
[11:49] <teressa> sudo /usr/bin/eject /dev/sda
[11:49] <teressa> That is what I used
[11:49] <FaeWolfe> popey.....top?
[11:49] <teressa> but it makes me Force quit
[11:49] <teressa> How should I change it??
[11:49] <salil> how do i add a mobile phone file system?? does anyone know..?
[11:49] <popey> FaeWolfe: open a terminal and type "top"
[11:50] <popey> salil: what phone?
[11:50] <FaeWolfe> popey...thank you
[11:50] <popey> FaeWolfe: no problem
[11:50] <egglet> hi guys, has anyone had problems getting totem to play dvds?
[11:50] <ethan_> right.
[11:50] <ekimus> anyone tried to get mezzo configured on ubuntu?
[11:50] <popey> FaeWolfe: there are nice gui type ones as well, but top does the job :D
[11:50] <teressa> Totem Xine?
[11:50] <ethan_> popey,  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/338583
[11:50] <barbas> ekimus unfortunately I don't seem to have install smbmount in ubuntu hoary! I guess I have to install it from universe?
[11:51] <egglet> well, at the moment i've just got the default install
[11:51] <FaeWolfe> popey....as long as I can check, I don't mind if it's not a gui
[11:51] <popey> egglet: yes, I followed the instructinos at http://ubuntuguide.org
[11:51] <egglet> which is gstreamer i think
[11:51] <salil> popey: nokia n-gage
[11:51] <popey> FaeWolfe: cool
[11:51] <salil> popey: QD
[11:51] <Bags> ekimus, The installation seemed to be going really well. I got through to the part where it says it's now going to reboot into the Ubuntu OS and intall the rest of th epackages, but when it came back, all I got was a question mark. Then after a number of reboots, all I get is a black screen.
[11:51] <popey> salil: does it use a memory card? you can put that in a memory card reader and mount that. thats what i do with my nokia 6600
[11:51] <Exo0dus> #ubuntu-es
[11:51] <IcemanV9> woot!! just installed the LATEST version of OOo2 :)
[11:52] <Mystery47_Newbie> hi all!
[11:52] <FaeWolfe> I have been having problems with trying to run a dvd or even my mp3 player on ubuntu...I've given up for now till I know the system a lil better
[11:52] <popey> ethan_: that looks okay to me
[11:52] <ekimus> bachler: ouch... never saw that before sorry
[11:52] <Mystery47_Newbie> I have some question about java and sound...
[11:52] <bachler> erm?
[11:52] <ekimus> err Bags ....ouch... never saw that before sorry
[11:52] <bachler> hahaha
[11:52] <ekimus> bachler: sorry (damn nick completion=
[11:52] <Mystery47_Newbie> How i can get sound on net....
[11:52] <bachler> hahah
[11:52] <popey> FaeWolfe: I can *highly* recommend going through http://ubuntuguide.org/ <-- those steps
[11:53] <IcemanV9> salil: i just downloaded photos from the camera by using card reader this morning
[11:53] <salil> popey: yes it does.. but i don't have a memory card and i was wondering whether you could load it like a filesystem thru bluetoot
[11:53] <FaeWolfe> popey...I did      I still get errors
[11:53] <dannyu502_> Does anyone know what to do when "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" gives you a message that says FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[11:53] <brer_rabbit> !extras
[11:53] <ubotu> from memory, extras is For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:53] <barbas> oh well got not time really but when I do I will do some more searching. thanks ekimus.
[11:53] <ethan_> popey,   Is there a specific process for the mouse?  Maybe increasing the niceness priority would help.  Because the mouse is freezing wayyy to much.. = /
[11:53] <popey> salil: I have a friend who uses bluetooth with his nokia6600 but it uses nfs and it's a bit messy
[11:53] <ilba7r> !fglrx
[11:54] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:54] <popey> ethan_: is it a touchpad or external mouse?
[11:54] <FaeWolfe> popey...I may have missed something, so I will wait till it has cooled off a bit here when I can think straight and then try again
[11:54] <ethan_> popey,   It is a touchpad on an iBook
[11:54] <egglet> thanks for the link popey, the site doesn't seem to be working, though
[11:54] <popey> FaeWolfe: good plan
[11:54] <popey> FaeWolfe: good luck!
[11:54] <salil> popey: i did configure the bluetooth with obex .. but.. the "bluetooth file sharing"  doesn't work
[11:54] <dannyu502_> Does anyone know what to do when "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" gives you a message that says FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[11:54] <Mystery47_Newbie> some one tell me how to get sound to firefox with java....
[11:54] <dbernar1> it is aptitude junior-~n
[11:54] <popey> ethan_: can you plug a mouse in?
[11:54] <dbernar1> ~n is the wildcard in aptitude.
[11:54] <FaeWolfe> popey tankies
[11:54] <funkyHat> sorry to be annoying, but can someone try and help me again with getting ALSA to work properly? it works fine but only one program can use it at a time
[11:54] <popey> :)
[11:54] <salil> popey: do you use bluetooth
[11:54] <ethan_> popey,   No i dont have one.. = (
[11:54] <ethan_> lol..
[11:55] <ilba7r> dannyu502 you might have a module with that name already
[11:55] <popey> salil: no, not on linux, because i have a memory card reader
[11:55] <popey> i might have a play now you've mentioned it :D
[11:55] <ilba7r> dannyu502 try uninstalling any old ndiswrapper first
[11:55] <ethan_> popey,   How long do you think it should take to shut down?
[11:55] <popey> dunno
[11:55] <popey> never used an apple laptop
[11:55] <salil> popey: it was giving me problems with windows too..
[11:55] <ethan_> well with yours how much
[11:55] <popey> salil: ditto!
[11:55] <salil> popey: it always connected on port 0....!!!
[11:56] <popey> salil: I've never got file transfer working well on bluetooth on windows
[11:56] <popey> maybe linux will be better for me :D
[11:56] <popey> i hope so
[11:56] <Goodspeed> on a fresh install of a server version what should i run first?
[11:56] <Goodspeed> apt-get install upgrade
[11:56] <ethan_> What sounds like a good time it should take to shut down...
[11:56] <popey> Goodspeed: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[11:56] <Goodspeed> anything else?
[11:56] <salil> popey: oh really.. .. it worked fine with mine.. but.. just that it always connected on port0.. i never could make it connect on the regular ports. !!
[11:57] <Goodspeed> like enabling universe?
[11:57] <popey> Goodspeed: depends what you want to install
[11:57] <salil> popey: can you help me with mplayer ....
[11:57] <sn0n> new question.. will ubuntu automatically use space unpartitioned (after using partition magic to make room) and setup the dual boot? (all from a n00b perspective)
[11:57] <Klementas> how can I get Epiphany to save passwords I type into web sites??
[11:57] <popey> salil: I don't use mplayer, only totem and xine
[11:57] <Goodspeed> i want to install HLDS
[11:57] <SBanner> hey, I have a dumb question, I just got my ubuntu cds and already have winXP on my comp. how do I go about partitioning my HD to have both on there?
[11:57] <popey> sn0n: it can kind of do that yes
[11:58] <salil> popey: oh..
[11:58] <popey> SBanner: use something like partition magic?
[11:58] <sn0n> popey, im tryin to convince a friend whos VERY non technical
[11:58] <sn0n> hehe
[11:58] <titaniululz> can anyone recommend a good ftp server for ubuntu?
[11:58] <popey> Goodspeed: I don't know that, sorry
[11:58] <popey> :)
[11:58] <Goodspeed> half life server
[11:58] <ethan_> ok popey ,  How long does it take You then to shut down...  because mine just stops when it says in red Shutting down or whatever..
[11:58] <popey> titaniululz: wu-ftpd?
[11:58] <popey> ohh
[11:58] <salil> Seveas: i d'loaded mplayer .. and it d'loaded xmms.. but.. how do i play dvds..?
[11:58] <popey> ethan_: never timed it sorry, and it's broken at the moment :(
[11:58] <bigbootay> salil, dvds with viedo?
[11:59] <bigbootay> err, video
[11:59] <dannyu502_> ilba7r, I dont think i have any old ndiswrappers
[11:59] <bigbootay> try mplayer or xine.
[11:59] <salil> bigbootay: yes
[11:59] <funkyHat> Seveas, can you try to help me with alsa again please? 0:-)
[11:59] <SBanner> popey: where would I find it, and is it free?
[11:59] <ilba7r> anyone know if my font problems with firefox and only firefox could be attributed to not installing fglrx for my ATI Raedon card
[11:59] <ethan_> ok... popey   but not like 5 minutes?  Because with me it just took so long so i force shut down then it said error on hda3 about 100 times and wouldn't stop untill i kept the power button down... = /
[11:59] <popey> SBanner: apt-cache search ftpd   would be a good start
[11:59] <bigbootay> or totem.  never tried that one but it's in my menus
[12:00] <popey> ethan_: that's not nice is it
[12:00] <ilba7r> dannyu502_ the initial installation of ubuntu install those driver for you