[12:25] <xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx> what ports do I have to allow for root, if I want be able to make updates
[12:25] <ObrienDave> philip__, have you asked in #ubuntu-server?
[12:26] <ObrienDave> xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx, what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[12:26] <tarkus> what does 'source' command do? Is it a build-in utility?
[12:26] <tarkus> Trying to run 'source ~/.kre/kvm/kvm.sh' but it produces no output..
[12:26] <xX_Arch-Lugal_Xx> to block all connection except those that are necessary. i want a secure system
[12:27] <sacarlson1> tarkus: it normaly adds to the envirnment of a script or in this case I guess the shell you run
[12:27] <nunizacu> i cant find 7.39 package, you have to roll your own
[12:27] <ObrienDave> !info curl
[12:28] <nunizacu> get sources of curl, get new curl, do so magic and install
[12:28] <nunizacu> but whats so special about 37 vs 39 ?
[12:28] <ObrienDave> ppa curl. not supported here
[12:31] <maverik>  /join #ubuntu-it
[12:31] <maverik>  /join #ubuntu-it
[12:32] <ObrienDave> maverik, no "space" in front
[12:37] <philip__> question on partition
[12:37] <sacarlson1> philip__: they hold formated computer data
[12:38] <philip__> my current harddisk is full. will love to add another hard disk to add up to the current one
[12:39] <OerHeks> philip__, what's it formatted as? ntfs ? ext3/ext4 ?
[12:40] <daniel> hi
[12:40] <philip__> u mean the new harddisk or the old one
[12:40] <nedal> hi, do you know a program that can stimulate a electronic circuits and show the variation on screen
[12:41] <OerHeks> philip__, as you have issues with the new hdd, why would i ask for the old one?
[12:41] <sacarlson1> nedal: do you mean simulate?
[12:41] <philip__> i have not done anything to it.i just inserted it
[12:41] <philip__> without doing anything
[12:41] <OerHeks> nedal, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEngineering#Electronics
[12:42] <OerHeks> philip__, please do not dcc crap
[12:43] <OerHeks> philip__, what does gparted say about your added hdd?
[12:43] <sacarlson1> nedal: is you ment to say simulate then spice is one electronic simulation software http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPICE,
[12:44] <solsTiCe> hi. trying to connect to a pptp fails with network-manager. It was working fine before. I found some stuff online that talks about a buggy libgcrypt11 1.5.0 but it has been upgraded since in ubuntu 14.10
[12:44] <solsTiCe> I gt somthing like "NetworkManager[1423]: <warn> /sys/devices/virtual/net/ppp0: couldn't determine device driver; ignoring..."
[12:44] <philip__> i did a dmesg and the new harddisk says 8mb instead of 300gb
[12:44] <sacarlson1> nedal: they also have programs to use your sound card as a oscope if you want to play with real electronics.  you can also create custom waves with a sound card output to provide input to electronics
[12:46] <OerHeks> philip__, no pm's please, keep it in this channel
[12:46] <philip__> ok
[12:46] <OerHeks> last warning
[12:47] <philip__> 0erHeks any help
[12:47] <OerHeks> philip__, what does gparted say about your added hdd?
[12:48] <philip__> the server is running on full TUI
[12:49] <philip__> no graphic at all
[12:49] <ObrienDave> OerHeks, would a HDD automatically be formatted to match a mirrored drive in server?
[12:49] <OerHeks> thne use the non-gui tool parted
[12:49] <kanapka_> hello
[12:50] <philip__> have no idea on how to use it
[12:50] <philip__> kind of new to it
[12:51] <gspe> Hi, I have some problem with lightdm and probably Xorg. When I try to login after suspend I can see the screen but seams to be like frozen, I can move the mouse around but clicks has no effect the same with the keyboard, the only thing that works is ctrl-alt-F1-7. I'm able to log in in the terminal and restart lightdm but this is very annoying.
[12:52] <OerHeks> philip__, if that hdd is sdb, sudo parted /dev/sdb print
[12:52] <vlt> Hello. On Ubuntu 12.04 LTS I get strange crashes from chromium-browser: "Nov 21 13:47:11 parker kernel: [2439252.623971] Browser[18181]: segfault at 0 ip 00007fe51f825843 sp 00007fff8a9c07a0 error 6 in libxul.so[7fe51da75000+2aed000]"  Any idea how to troubleshoot this?
[12:52] <philip__> the hdd is sdb
[12:53] <sacarlson1> gspe: I should assume with it working as well as you have it that you have a swap space as big or a bit bigger than you ram in your system?
[12:53] <moveax_devhq> hey all
[12:54] <moveax_devhq> i am trying to set up a local portforwarding
[12:54] <moveax_devhq> i want to forward port localhost port 80 to localhost port 8011
[12:54] <moveax_devhq> "ssh -L 80:localhost:8011 localhost" is not working for me
[12:54] <gspe> sacarlson1: yes I have 16gb ram and 2 34gb swap partition
[12:54] <moveax_devhq> is there another simple way to do that?
[12:54] <philip__> Number  Start   End    Size   Type     File system  Flags
[12:54] <philip__>  1      32.3kB  263MB  263MB  primary  fat32        lba
[12:55] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[12:56] <gspe> sacarlson1: This problem happen recently after the upgrade to 14.10
[12:57] <sacarlson1> gspe: oh try the older kernel in your grub menu then
[12:59] <gspe> sacarlson1: next time I reboot I'll try this
[12:59] <therue> :( tried to install 3 times.... never worked
[13:00] <ObrienDave> philip__, that's only showing 300MB
[13:01] <cfhowlett> therue, if you want to help you have to actually provide useful details ...
[13:02] <zibidigibi> hello how can i disable the transition effect when locking/unlocking in ubuntu 14.04?
[13:02] <zibidigibi> it's so slow
[13:03] <sacarlson1> moveax_devhq: I guess you could try some iptables stuf,  or maybe squid proxy or a few other options
[13:03] <vlt> moveax_devhq: Could you describe "not working for you", please? Can you establish an ssh connection? What does "netstat -tulpen" look like afterwards?
[13:03] <sacarlson1> moveax_devhq: I must say I've never tryed to do what your doing so not sure it will work
[13:03] <vlt> moveax_devhq: Is there already listening something else on port 80?
[13:04] <therue> i tried to install 14.10, but whenever i tried to install... it just takes forever and never ends... and when i see the command line at the bottom. i see a bunch of failed autopawn lock type stuff
[13:04] <ObrienDave> !details | therue
[13:04] <therue> from this somethingaudio program
[13:04] <therue> but i basically have to exit out of the install 'cuz nothing happens after 3 hours
[13:05] <zibidigibi> hey guys, when i lock / unlock my ubuntu 14.04 there is some sort of alpha-blend effect like fade-in fade-out, how can I disable that? i tried disabling all effects in compizconfig settings manager but didn't help
[13:16] <m1dnight_> Hi, I've pressed *some* shortcut multiple times and i'm sick of it :p
[13:17] <m1dnight_> it minimizes any application ( chrome in this case) and it disappears from the taskbar
[13:17] <m1dnight_> but is still running
[13:17] <m1dnight_> anyone know who I can reopen them?
[13:18] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | therue, 1.  md5sum your .iso     2. md5sum your USB!
[13:23] <toto1> brightness adjust stop working, how to fix it - 14.04.1
[13:23] <Simonides9000> hey there! Is there anyone who can tell me: if my default graphic environment is gnome (but i've got unity installed - but i've messed it) - to run unity i must type "setsid unity" in terminal. My question is: how to do it with gnome-shell? "setsid gnome-shell" won't work. TIA
[13:24] <therue> i did md5sum.... it says it's fine
[13:24] <cfhowlett> therue, you checked the .iso AND your usb?
[13:29] <therue> i downloaded an iso again
[13:29] <therue> and checked it
[13:29] <therue> THEN i put it on the usb
[13:29] <OerHeks> therue, is this on a win8 machine ?
[13:29] <OerHeks> sure you disabled secureboot and fastboot?
[13:30] <cfhowlett> therue, verify -  the - usb >>>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD
[13:31] <therue> i used the program winMD5Sum from that site and checked the iso already
[13:31] <cfhowlett> therue, for the last time:  verifying the .iso and verifying the USB are TWO DIFFERENT STEPS !!!
[13:36] <therue> hmm how do i verify the usb?
[13:36] <therue> it shows instructions for linux command line
[13:36] <therue> but i'm on windows
[13:36] <therue> can i verify the usb with winumd55sum too?
[13:37] <cfhowlett> therue, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD
[13:37] <cfhowlett> substitute "usb" for "cdrom"
[13:43] <claudio_> hello guys!
[13:45] <claudio_> i need a gimp like to edit pics and to setup for the web which is the best?
[13:45] <mdoge> claudio_: thats not a question
[13:45] <cfhowlett> claudio_, "best" is the one you prefer to use.  it's subjective. gimp works fine
[13:46] <claudio_> yes i need to resize the jpg
[13:46] <cfhowlett> claudio_, ... gimp
[13:47] <claudio_> mmm
[13:47] <claudio_> tks
[13:48] <philip__> yes but the actual space for the hdd is 300gb
[13:48] <claudio_> isn't there anyone to do it simple?
[13:48] <philip__> why showing 300mb
[13:49] <daftykins> claudio_: your questions don't make sense in English
[13:49] <cfhowlett> claudio google translate is making this worse.  what is your spoken language???
[13:49] <claudio_> how do i do it with gimp
[13:49] <claudio_> spansh
[13:49] <daftykins> !es
[13:49] <cfhowlett> !gimp
[13:49] <claudio_> tks
[13:50] <claudio_> ok
[13:52] <claudio_> i'v got it, thaks!
[13:53] <jaymaker> Hey guys
[13:53] <daftykins> hello
[13:56] <assemblyx> hi all
[13:57] <daftykins> hi
[13:57] <jaymaker> ugh! I feel like crap :/
[13:57] <daftykins> that's nice, unfortunately unless you're running ubuntu we can't help
[13:57] <daftykins> so please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:58] <jaymaker> I'm sorry dafty. Are you a mod?
[13:59] <cfhowlett> jaymaker, please ask your ubuntu support question
[14:01] <therue> eh... so on my usb. i see a md5sum txt file
[14:01] <therue> and a md5sums file
[14:01] <therue> do i just take that file and compare it to the md5sum value from the web site?
[14:02] <cfhowlett> therue, read.  substitute USB for cdrom.  read.  follow.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD
[14:02] <therue> i'm not on linux
[14:02] <therue> all of that requires a terminal
[14:03] <cfhowlett> therue, true
[14:03] <assemblyx> not sure if my question was posted, what would i install to configure my launcher? I'd like to place it along the bottom
[14:03] <therue> i have a windows system
[14:03] <therue> dual boot
[14:03] <therue> just windows for now , i'm trying to set up dual boot
[14:04] <therue> so i dont have linux installed yet
[14:04] <ZerOlegend> assemblyx, check out cairo-dock
[14:04] <daftykins> assemblyx: i don't think it can be moved at all, the unity one
[14:04] <ZerOlegend> you can set the unity launche to auto hide
[14:04] <ZerOlegend> but cairo-dock is a good app you can apt-get and works really well
[14:05] <assemblyx> thanks
[14:05] <ZerOlegend> you are welcome
[14:12] <BadApe> i was wondering about implementing a home file server, has anyone played with one of those private cloud services here?
[14:12] <iptable> yes
[14:12] <BadApe> which one?
[14:12] <iptable> what kind of file server?
[14:12] <BadApe> well i would like to do backups of my devices, i have windows, linux, android, iphones etc
[14:13] <iptable> on ubuntu, I just install apache2 and samba (cifs).
[14:13] <BadApe> hardware is not a worry as i have a big dl380 i got from ebay
[14:13] <BadApe> i was thinking it would be cute to have something like dropbox backing up documents etc to a vm
[14:13] <BadApe> a private local dropbox service
[14:13] <iptable> depends on what backups you want to do. for my laptops, I have a backup partition which is btrfs filesystem type and use btrfs snapshots to copy /home on my laptops. For windows, you could install and use cifs (samba).
[14:14] <iptable> samba + apache2 + webdav plugin = dropbox
[14:14] <BadApe> needs a client to auto sync
[14:14] <Pici> BadApe: A lot of people here seem to like owncloud, don't use the packages in Ubuntu though, they are a bit out of date.
[14:14] <iptable> now you are complicating stuff ;)
[14:15] <BadApe> maybe a freenas vm or opennas
[14:15] <tarkus> When I do echo "..." > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mono-xamarin.list -- it errors "Permission denied" how to deal with it?
[14:15] <iptable> BadApe: you are asking on ubuntu channel. having said that freenas is a good solution if you have loads of ram to feed zfs
[14:15] <tarkus> Trying to install Mono as described here http://www.mono-project.com/docs/getting-started/install/linux/
[14:15] <iptable> tarkus: that's because the file is editable by root only
[14:16] <tarkus> iptable, how to edit it by root?
[14:16] <BadApe> iptable: something like that
[14:16] <iptable> tarkus: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mono-xamarin.list
[14:16] <BadApe> maybe there is an ubuntu based nas distro
[14:16] <iptable> tarkus: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mono-xamarin.list
[14:17] <iptable> tarkus: bash -c "echo '...' > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mono-xamarin.list"
[14:17] <tarkus> iptable, thanks
[14:17] <BadApe> i use ubuntu server, but they consist of java, jetty and a .war file
[14:17] <iptable> BadApe: no, 'fraid there isn't. but try owncloud as someone suggested
[14:17] <richardjs> tarkus: or "sudo bash" to get a root shell, and then use the commands from the tutorial normally
[14:17] <BadApe> iptable: thanks
[14:17] <richardjs> tarkus: just be careful with it
[14:17] <iptable> richardjs: no, that's a very bad way
[14:17] <Guest99885> hello
[14:18] <iptable> richardjs: at least use sudo -i, if you must be root. but going root should be avoided if possible. it's bad practice. use sudo/gksudo instead. official ubuntu way.
[14:18] <k1l_> tarkus: what do you actually need? mono is n the ubuntu repos
[14:18] <richardjs> iptable, tarkus: I
[14:18] <tarkus> k1l_ when i run $ mono ... it says no such app
[14:18] <richardjs> iptable, tarkus: That's not the greatest way, it's true*
[14:19] <tarkus> k1l_ so, trying to install it as described here: http://www.mono-project.com/docs/getting-started/install/linux/
[14:19] <k1l_> tarkus: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=trusty&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=mono
[14:19] <k1l_> tarkus: what do you actually need of that?
[14:19] <iptable> tarkus: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install mono
[14:19] <iptable> tarkus: tried that? or apt-cache search mono
[14:19] <richardjs> tarkus: In theory, though... what is wrong with it if you make sure you know what each command is doing?
[14:19] <richardjs> whoops, iptable^
[14:19] <iptable> richardjs: that the user clearly doesn't ?
[14:19] <k1l_> tarkus: the first way should always be to look if ubuntu ships packages you need instead of loading 3rd party stuff that might break your whole system
[14:20] <iptable> richardjs: also, typos and assumptions ;)
[14:20] <richardjs> iptable: Ok, fair enough :)
[14:20] <toche> hello world
[14:20] <richardjs> You can typo a sudo command too, though
[14:20] <iptable> world: no user by this name
[14:20] <amir7192> im using this app for the first
[14:21] <k1l_> tarkus: so ubuntu ships already mono-devel and mono-complete.
[14:21] <amir7192> i have a problem in my ubuntu i cant empty my trash
[14:21] <iptable> richardjs: you are less likely to cause system destruction if you have to choose which commands will run with root privileges though. that'sthe whole point. especially for users who are unsure
[14:22] <richardjs> iptable: Yeah, I agree with that. tarkus: Ignore my suggestion :)
[14:22] <iptable> richardjs: don't get me wrong. when configuring a server from scratch in full, I normally go into root immediately as all my commands will need privileges. but for helping unsure average jo and jane, sudo is better. teach them good ways first
[14:22] <tarkus> k1l_ actually I'm trying to install aspnet KVM.. it requires mono, bash, zsh and curl: https://github.com/aspnet/Home
[14:23] <iptable> amir7192: define "can't empty trash". error/can't find it/something else? we can't read your mind, you know
[14:23] <iptable> tarkus: sudo apt-get install mon bash zsh curl
[14:23] <arun_>  anyone here knows how to repair a broken initrd image?
[14:23] <k1l_> tarkus: well than install that from the repos
[14:23] <iptable> tarkus: or use apt-cache search. all of these are already in ubuntu repos. no need to add apt sources
[14:23] <richardjs> iptable: Yeah, that's the situation I'm typically thinking of (going root to set up a system), but you're right in that the situation doesn't apply to everyone
[14:23] <k1l_> tarkus: well, the official ubuntu repos, that is.
[14:24] <iptable> arun_: regenerate initrd
[14:24] <k1l_> tarkus: are you aware of ubunut having a package system?
[14:24] <arun_> iptable: can u help me with that?
[14:24] <tarkus> k1l_ yep a little
[14:24] <arun_> iptable: any guides?
[14:24] <silvi1> cisao
[14:24] <silvi1> ciao
[14:24] <tarkus> k1l_ I assume something similar to other systems (npm, etc)
[14:24] <silvi1> !list
[14:24] <iptable> arun_: man mkinitrd
[14:25] <iptable> arun_: or: sudo update-initramfs -c -k <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:25] <k1l_> tarkus: so install the needed packages and you are good to go
[14:25] <iptable> arun_: replace version with your kernel version
[14:25] <iptable> arun_: ls /boot to find it
[14:25] <iptable> arun_: don't forget to update-grub2. as well. makes sense to do so after regenerating
[14:26] <arun_> iptable: ok, and will this command work for other distros too ?
[14:26] <iptable> tarkus: I already gave you the package system (apt) commands you need to use to install. that's all that is required
[14:26] <iptable> arun_: not necessarily. depends.
[14:26] <iptable> arun_: works for ubuntu.
[14:27] <frank_> Buen dia alguien habla español
[14:27] <iptable> !es |grank_
[14:27] <iptable> !es |frank_
[14:32] <tarkus> It seems like 'apt-get install mono' installed mono 3.2.8, but the latest version is 3.8.0..
[14:32] <daftykins> ubuntu version?
[14:33] <Raven67854> tarkus, http://www.mono-project.com/download/#download-lin
[14:33] <Raven67854> If you want 3.8
[14:33] <k1l_> tarkus: do you need the latest version?
[14:34] <tarkus> ubuntu v 14.10 (latest)
[14:34] <k1l_> tarkus: and i really mean: need. not "but i want the latest"
[14:34] <teward> tarkus: you'll need to keep in mind that what's in the repos tends to be version locked - if you *want* mono 3.8 you'll either need to download it yourself and compile or find a PPA (and PPAs are 'use at your own risk').  Unless you have a real need for mono 3.8.0, I don't see why you'd need to update.
[14:34] <teward> s/update/get the latest version/
[14:35] <iptable> tarkus: did you apt-get update first before install?
[14:35] <tarkus> iptable yep
[14:35] <iptable> tarkus: also, as others asked, do you NEED the latest version, or latest ubuntu version is fine for your needs? latest != better and NEED
[14:36] <tarkus> I'm trying to use aspnet.. but getting this error:
[14:36] <tarkus> https://gist.github.com/koistya/b02b2c68fd769ed4c4df
[14:37] <tarkus> so, i though.. maybe that's somehow related to mono not being the latest version installed on my machine..
[14:39] <daftykins> dev'ing as root, interesting
[14:40] <cfhowlett> dev'ing as root = don't sound right!
[14:40] <tarkus> yeah, i don't know how to exit from root :)
[14:40] <tarkus> yet
[14:40] <k1l_> tarkus: well. if you are root your file permissions get ruined.
[14:40] <k1l_> tarkus: exit
[14:40] <tarkus> k1l_ worked:)
[14:44] <iptable> :/
[14:48] <deb> Hello, my usb camera mounts here gphoto2://[usb:002,002]/DCIM ... ls /media/myuser/ dont showit, either in $(HOME)/.gvfs , where is my usb camera mounted in ubuntu 14.04 32bits?]
[14:49] <daftykins> deb: type "mount" to find out
[14:49] <deb> weird in /run/user/1000/gvfs   ...?
[14:50] <crem_> I'm trying to add a new keyboard layout variant. I added it to symbols/by and rules/evdev.xml, and I can see the layout in settings and also "show layout" shows correct layout image. But still when I type with it on, I just get latin layout instead. What did I miss?
[14:50] <crem_> ah yes, I removed /var/lib/xkb/*.xkm
[14:58] <cyberalex4life> hello! When kill xserver with Ctrl + Alt + Backspace I see for a short time some errors. How can I look at those messages whenever I wish?
[14:58] <daftykins> cyberalex4life: zapping has been disabled for years because it doesn't work right
[14:59] <daftykins> cyberalex4life: if you want to restart X, you should be stopping and starting lightdm from a TTY.
[15:00] <cyberalex4life> yes, I did that but when pres Ctrl+Alt+F7 it only shows a black screen. This used to work in Ubuntu Gnome Trusty
[15:01] <arun_> iptable: should I need to enter sudo update-initramfs -c -k <IP_ADDRESS> in live mode?
[15:01] <the8thbit|work> Whenever I try to download a package through apt-get I get this error: http://pastebin.com/3ze0bfUD
[15:03] <the8thbit|work> when I run apt-get -f install I get this: http://pastebin.com/nz0EBemk
[15:03] <iptable> arun_: live mode? as in liveCD? you want to fix your HDD, you will need to mount the HDD partition(s) in /mnt, then mount bind the /sys, /proc and /dev in /mnt and then chroot into /mnt
[15:03] <cfhowlett> the8thbit|work, what does this terminal command return:  cat /etc/issue
[15:03] <the8thbit|work> cfhowlett: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[15:03] <arun_> hm.. ok
[15:04] <the8thbit|work> also of note, this started happening shortly after uninstalling and reinstalling gcc
[15:04] <the8thbit|work> and also did something with libc6-dev-i386 and libc6-dev-amd64
[15:04] <the8thbit|work> but I forgot exactly what I did
[15:04] <the8thbit|work> maybe reinstalled them too idk
[15:07] <iptable> the8thbit|work: remove libc6-dev-i386 and leave/install libc6-dev-amd64
[15:08] <iptable> the8thbit|work: or to get your system to NORMAL, remove libc6-dev-i386 and libc6-dev-amd64 and install libc6-dev.
[15:08] <the8thbit|work> iptable: http://pastebin.com/mw1mNtmk
[15:08] <iptable> the8thbit|work: if you need 386, install libc6-dev and libc6-dev:i386
[15:09] <iptable> the8thbit|work: at this point I cannot tell how to fix it until you can say what you did to break it exactly
[15:09] <the8thbit|work> hmm
[15:09] <the8thbit|work> maybe its in my zsh history...
[15:09] <the8thbit|work> at some point I did this, but I think that might have been an attempted fix: apt-cache policy libc6-dev-i386
[15:10] <iptable> ha to highlight it's zsh :P
[15:10] <iptable> the8thbit|work: got aptitude? try aptitude -f install. it oculd give you solutions
[15:10] <Pici> the8thbit|work: policy just reports information, it doesn't change anything.
[15:12] <the8thbit|work> aptitude is smarter than me it seems
[15:12] <the8thbit|work> thanks iptable and Pici
[15:13] <iptable> the8thbit|work: there we go :D if you answer No to it, it will look for other solutions. you can quit and retry if you want as well.
[15:15] <the8thbit|work> hnnggg
[15:15] <the8thbit|work> iptable: still not fixed: http://pastebin.com/i2yrKkKb
[15:16] <alex_853> #koumbit
[15:17] <daftykins> alex_853: no thanks
[15:18] <iptable> the8thbit|work: aptitude install libc6-dev-i386 now
[15:18] <alex_853> Join #koumbit
[15:18] <OerHeks> alex_853, please don'spam, thanks
[15:28] <BAMbanda> I'm trying to install libpg-dev on  ubuntu, but my apt-get can't locate the package
[15:28] <BAMbanda> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libpq-dev
[15:28] <iptable> BAMbanda: apt-get update
[15:28] <daftykins> you typed libpg when it's a Q, BAMbanda
[15:28] <BAMbanda> ahhhh
[15:29] <iptable> ah, mised that :D nice one daftykins
[15:29] <daftykins> :) ty
[15:29] <BAMbanda> that makes me so happy!
[15:29] <BAMbanda> thanks daftykins
[15:29] <daftykins> anytime :) i like the easy ones
[15:29] <BAMbanda> hehe
[15:29] <iptable> pervert :P
[15:31] <the8thbit|work> iptable: got the same error
[15:32] <iptable> the8thbit|work: remove the gcc multilib and other dev packages causing the issue until no problem occurs and try again, using aptitude, if you really need multilib gcc
[15:32] <iptable> the8thbit|work: normally I just install build-essential whihc installs everything for me ;)
[15:34] <OerHeks> the8thbit|work, libpq-dev is part of postgresql-server-dev-9.4
[15:34] <OerHeks> http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/postgresql-server-dev-9.4
[15:35] <the8thbit|work> iptable: I think uninstalling the offending packages through aptitude worked, thanks :)
[15:36] <JediMaster> As ia32-libs is no longer available, what is the alternative in Ubuntu 14.04?
[15:36] <iptable> JediCheese: there isn't one
[15:37] <iptable> JediCheese: why do you need 500 i386 packages on your 64 bit?
[15:37] <yeats> JediMaster: packagename.i686
[15:37] <JediMaster> JediCheese?
[15:37] <iptable> auto-complete
[15:37] <iptable> fail
[15:37] <JediMaster> =)
[15:37] <iptable> JediMaster: if you need an i386 package, you do package:i385
[15:37] <iptable> i386 that is
[15:37] <JediMaster> yeats/iptable, I'm converting an i386 .rpm with alient to a deb, it's some i386 ODBC drivers
[15:37] <yeats> eww - I wouldn't do that
[15:38] <iptable> if you install dsomethings via dpkg that needs i386 packages and complains that dependencies are not met, you apt-get -f install and that will install the required i386 packages for you
[15:38] <JediMaster> the x64 worked but the driver is a bit buggy
[15:38] <JediMaster> I've been told the windows odbc equivilant has problems with 64 bit version so wanted to try the i386 version on linux
[15:38] <yeats> JediMaster: are you certain that there isn't an already packaged version of whatever it is you're trying to install?
[15:39] <JediMaster> I can extract the .so libs however LDD doesn't read out the dependancies
[15:39] <JediMaster> ldd complains "not a dynamic executable"
[15:40] <yeats> JediMaster: what does 'file bleh.so' say?
[15:42] <JediMaster> opt/ibm/iSeriesAccess/lib/libcwbcore.so: ELF 32-bit LSB  shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped
[15:42] <JediMaster> yeats ^^
[15:43] <yeats> JediMaster: hmm - maybe ldd needs 32-bit libs itself - I don't know that for certain, though
[15:43] <JediMaster> yeah, that's what I figured
[15:44] <JediMaster> meh: ldd /usr/bin/ldd produces "	not a dynamic executable"
[15:45] <yeats> JediMaster: see this: http://askubuntu.com/a/231500 - it's about installing a different package, but it looks relevant
[15:45] <sambagirl> good morning. i was curious whether there is a ubuntu desktop tablet version? the reason i am asking is because microsoft store is opening here a nd they are selling toshiba envoy 2 tablets for 99$ and i would replace widows 8.1 with something i like.
[15:45] <yeats> !touch | sambagirl
[15:46] <k1l> sambagirl: make sure you can replace the windows there at all. some devices have locked bootloaders and cant remove the windows.
[15:46] <G4RC14> Hello
[15:46] <sambagirl> oh i see
[15:47] <sambagirl> ok k1l let me research it first
[15:47] <JediMaster> yeats, yeah I was considering trying libc6:i386, will try now
[15:47] <G4RC14> how do i create my own channel
[15:47] <G4RC14> ??
[15:47] <JediMaster> G4RC14, /join #whatever
[15:48] <BluesKaj_> G4RC14, ask in #freenode
[15:48] <k1l> G4RC14: ask #freenode , they can assist you
[15:48] <JediMaster> oh, are they restricted?
[15:49] <k1l> JediMaster: freenode got regulations on naming etc.
[15:53] <gtrmtx> so im in completely uncharted territory...can someone point me in the right direction for creating a cron task that pulls data from a mysql table and emailing that data to a specific address?
[15:53] <gtrmtx> so im in completely uncharted territory...can someone point me in the right direction for creating a cron task that pulls data from a mysql table and emailing that data to a specific address?
[15:53] <gtrmtx> crap sorry didnt mean to ask twice
[15:54] <G4RC14> freenode wont work, is there any channel as #help
[15:54] <calimero_82> hi guys
[15:54] <Pici> G4RC14: you haven't said anything in #freenode yet.  Try actually asking a question there.
[15:56] <flaiks> allo
[15:56] <calimero_82> Sorry guys, I would like to understand a bit better the speech repository, I know it's better not to add any repository in those pre-installed so as not to mess up the system, now if I will add an addon that contains a repository of xbmc means doing the same thing? thanks
[15:59] <flaiks> any tips for improvingh fonts while browsing the web ?
[15:59] <flaiks> ie. facebook looks like crap
[16:02] <BluesKaj_> flaiks, depends on your browser and gtk font settings mostly
[16:05] <slackss> Hey everybody. Has anyone else had issues with unity-web-apps not working? I hit install in firefox and nothing happens. If I manually install the package it just opens to a blank window.
[16:08] <vito_86> ciao
[16:08] <the8thbit|work> okay so now
[16:08] <the8thbit|work> I'm trying to compile apt from source
[16:08] <the8thbit|work> and when I run make I get this error:
[16:08] <the8thbit|work> checking for curl_easy_init in -lcurl... no
[16:08] <the8thbit|work> configure: error: failed: I need CURL due https support
[16:08] <the8thbit|work> make: *** [build/config.status] Error 1
[16:09] <the8thbit|work> however, which curl gives me /usr/bin/curl
[16:09] <OerHeks> the8thbit|work, why would you compile apt from source?
[16:11] <the8thbit|work> OerHeks: Great question. I work at a company that develops mostly ARM-based single board computers running a custom rolled minimalist gnu/linux distribution and a custom linux kernel. These devices do not have a package management system on them yet, so they are fairly limited. While right now I am compiling apt for x86_64, my goal is to eventually cross compile for arm and scp the binaries to the board I'm playing with
[16:12] <ubuntuaddicted> does anyone use multiple x servers with different layouts? i can't seem to get it to work. when I launch a new x server using xinit /usr/bin/openbox -- :1 -layout Gaming  its still using both monitors when it should only be using 1. here's my xorg.conf file: https://bpaste.net/show/5dc50d4e2c83
[16:13] <frankdrey> sorry if this is a stupid question, but does ubuntu 14 come with virtual desktops / spaces? i'm not finding it anywhere
[16:14] <madorn> how does one configure vmware_fusion for parallelization?  attempting vagrant up --parallel but doesn't appear to be working.
[16:14] <ubuntuaddicted> frankdrey, you mean other workspaces or actualy other virtual terminal or virtual displays?
[16:14] <calimero_82> Sorry guys, I would like to understand a bit better the speech repository, I know it's better not to add any repository in those pre-installed so as not to mess up the system, now if I will add an addon that contains a repository of xbmc means doing the same thing? thanks
[16:14] <frankdrey> workspaces
[16:15] <OerHeks> frankdrey, systemsettings > appearance > enable workspaces
[16:15] <ubuntuaddicted> frankdrey, it does but it depends on what desktop manager you're using ie KDE,. XFCE, Gnome, etc etc
[16:15] <frankdrey> ahhh, thanks
[16:16] <tafa2> hi guys
[16:16] <OerHeks> calimero_82, adding a xbmc ppa is the same thing, yes
[16:17] <tafa2> hi could I give a folder and its contents access to 2 groups but only have one group able to read and one able to read and write?
[16:17] <calimero_82> thanks OerHeks
[16:17] <OerHeks> calimero_82, those packages overrule the existing ones, so they won't bite
[16:18] <tytan> do I have to configure the cron-deamon?
[16:19] <Guest47025> how i can empty trash by my terminal
[16:21] <OerHeks> Guest47025, why not use the gui?
[16:21] <OerHeks> Guest47025, With trash-cli installed, you can do trash-empty
[16:21] <Guest47025> tnx 0reHeks
[16:23] <calimero_82> how can i open sfs in ubuntu?
[16:24] <daftykins> calimero_82: a .sfs file? never heard of that
[16:25] <calimero_82> yes daftykins, it's used by puppylinux
[16:25] <daftykins> calimero_82: might be best to ask in a channel for that distro then
[16:25] <daftykins> you can also try running "file" on it to see what it reports
[16:26] <frais404> hallo
[16:28] <dj123> runin Ubuntu 14.04....i js found out that i can run need fo speed in it..this is reali good.
[16:31] <OEP> Does anyone have a clue what "We failed, but the fail whale is dead" from xsession-manager means?
[16:32] <jpds> OEP: Probably best to look at the sauce.
[16:33] <D41LY5H4D0W> hello
[16:34] <OEP> jpds: So I want to use KDE but x-session-manager is linked to gnome-session which does not sound right.
[16:35] <D41LY5H4D0W> how can I make to start a private chat with someone
[16:35] <yeats> !pm | D41LY5H4D0W
[16:35] <jpds> OEP: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7651200
[16:37] <D41LY5H4D0W> ??
[16:38] <arun__> dude, what where the thing I need to bind mount, I lost the connection
[16:39] <daftykins> arun__: can you try rewording that?
[16:40] <calimero_82> bye
[16:40] <arun__> daftykins: How to repair initrd image if its corrupt or boot failure
[16:40] <squinty> D41LY5H4D0W:  if using xchat or hexchat, right click on the person's nick and then select "open dialog window"
[16:40] <daftykins> arun__: boot an older kernel
[16:41] <OEP> jpds: looks like some minimal gnome session stuff got installed and selected as the default window manager
[16:42] <staypanhalfhot> channels list
[16:42] <staypanhalfhot> list
[16:42] <squinty> D41LY5H4D0W:  please keep in mind that pm'ing in this channel (and most others) without asking permission of the person you want to talk to first, is frowned upon.  personally I do not pm.  :)
[16:42] <FightingTheRedmo> I'm sure this question gets thrown around a lot, so I'll only ask for the definitive link. How in the HELL does one setup a dual boot system with Windows 8.1? (UEFI boot)
[16:43] <OerHeks> !uefi
[16:44] <daftykins> FightingTheRedmo: it's really not that involved.
[16:46] <FightingTheRedmo> daftykins - I know.. it's not this that's got me riled up.. but the issues that've led me to needing to install Ubuntu on a laptop I removed it from. Windows, as is expected of it, broke itself after the update to 8.1. My WiFi card isn't really supported (MT7630) by Linux (the OEM released Linux drivers are piss poor).  In any case, I installed 8.1, adn then Lubuntu (without issues). Then ran boot-repair, with the recommended repair.  Which was the ONLY reason I installed 8.1 at the expense of formatting my disk in the first place.
[16:50] <daftykins> FightingTheRedmo: perhaps the latter wasn't booted in EFI mode?
[16:51] <daftykins> FightingTheRedmo: you probably needed to find newer drivers, but anywho - i can't offer any Windows support in here.
[16:52] <learts> Hi guys! Somebody managed to make pycharm work well with high dpi screens?
[16:52] <FightingTheRedmo> daftykins - I guess. I'll admit I never read up on UEFI. It seems like I'm finally going to be forced to. I'll go check BIOS and configure the thing. I know there's loads of support out there, but thought I'd check here first to find out which guide was considered canon.
[16:53] <ralph> Hey guys. My computer ran out of battery and now I cant get wlan0 up. It was working just fine before. Any advice?
[16:53] <daftykins> FightingTheRedmo: yeah, the above linked guides shows the visible difference between booting legacy and booting EFI. once you boot and install in the same mode for windows + ubuntu, all should be fine.
[16:53] <daftykins> ralph: what've you done since having a low battery...?
[16:54] <FightingTheRedmo> daftykins, OerHeks - Thanks!
[16:54] <ralph> daftykins: plugged the computer in and started it up
[16:54] <daftykins> ralph: did it maybe sleep/hibernate ? shutdown, power off... remove battery + mains... replug, boot and see what's up
[16:55] <ralph> daftykins: I think it just died. Nothing else. I think I disabled hibernate
[16:56] <daftykins> ralph: do the above anyway. if the interface is totally gone, maybe it's not reported from 'lspci' anymore? is there maybe an Fn+Function key combo to turn wireless on?
[16:56] <ralph> daftykins: it's an asus duo 11. I have restarted and powered off. Ill try to put it in hibernation
[16:57] <daftykins> no, avoid hibernate - haha
[16:57] <ralph> oh
[16:57] <ralph> I just did it
[16:57] <ralph> oh well
[16:57] <daftykins> ;/
[16:57] <ralph> You said, "do the above anyway"
[16:57] <dcmwai> hello all
[16:57] <dcmwai> anyone install openproject on ubuntu 14.04 before?
[16:57] <karab44> hello
[16:58] <karab44> why pulseaudio is installed with ubuntu? What is the purpose of that?
[16:58] <daftykins> ralph: i asked if it might have hibernated. i at no point suggested *to* hibernate :)
[16:58] <ralph> daftykins: I tried to  run ifconfig wlan0 up and I get "no such device"
[16:58] <ralph> ah
[16:58] <dcmwai> I try to follot this.. https://www.openproject.org/download/packaged-installation/ and it still gail
[16:58] <daftykins> yeah that's not a valid command when you don't have a device or interface
[16:58] <K350> what's preferable - "useradd" or "adduser" ?
[16:58] <dcmwai> https://packager.io/gh/opf/openproject/install?bid=449#ubuntu-14-04-openproject
[16:58] <daftykins> K350: 'what works'
[16:58] <ralph> daftykins: how do I make the interface?
[16:59] <daftykins> ralph: i have stated many things such as checking 'lspci' for the device which i've yet to see feedback on
[16:59] <ralph> daftykins: how do I check lspci
[16:59] <daftykins> it's a terminal command
[16:59] <ralph> okay
[16:59] <ralph> I ran it
[16:59] <ralph> Uhm, what specifically do you want from this
[16:59] <ralph> ?
[17:00] <mmiller13> Does anyone knows where I adjust my firewall settings???
[17:00] <qstrahl> Is there a signal or something I can have my shell script emit to tell gnome-terminal to change cursor shape? I know I can use gconftool but I am trying to make it work over SSH tunnel
[17:00] <daftykins> ralph: no, *you* want to see if your wireless device is listed there :)
[17:00] <ralph> I am on a different computer so I'll have to type all of this out
[17:00] <therue> browsers using a lot of CPU%.. is this pretty normal in linux?
[17:00] <daftykins> no i don't want to know it
[17:00] <flaiks> therue, chrome does in any OS
[17:00] <ralph> daftykins: Is  it called network controller?
[17:00] <flaiks> therue, whenever I travel im forced to use safari on my macbook or my battery lasts about 2 h ours
[17:00] <nedal> hi again, I asked for a program that can stimulate an electric circuit an show the diagrams on screen like corocodil clips on windows ? does such program exist on linux ?
[17:01] <daftykins> ralph: it may even have wireless, atheros, broadcom, realtek in the name.
[17:01] <ralph> daftykins: is it called ethernet controller? It says Realtek semiconductor Co., etc..
[17:02] <therue>  i see
[17:02] <daftykins> that might be a wired interface so i can't be sure.
[17:02] <therue> another question i have is.... i have a nice graphic card: nvidia geforce gtx 780
[17:02] <OerHeks> nedal, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEngineering#Electronics
[17:02] <sacarlson1> nedal: did you look at spice
[17:02] <therue> graphics look awesome in windows
[17:02] <OerHeks> and spice indeed
[17:03] <therue> but with the default nvidia driver from linux ... videos/images they just dont look at clear as they do in windows
[17:03] <therue> videos come out little grainy
[17:03] <therue> colors not as vibrant, etc
[17:03] <therue> is this normal for linux?
[17:03] <daftykins> therue: please try and combine your queries into a single line so anyone helping doesn't have to look around for the full conversation.
[17:03] <therue> very sorry daftykins, wont happen again :)
[17:03] <daftykins> it's also very spammy
[17:03] <squinty> ralph:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[17:03] <ralph> thanks squint
[17:04] <daftykins> therue: are you using nouveau or nvidia proprietary? (click the settings cog on the launcher on the left, go to software and sources, then the 'additional drivers/hardware' tab
[17:04] <Mendax> why does it seem like I have been banned from ##chat, when I haven't doen anything wrong
[17:04] <Mendax> sounds like adriver issue
[17:04] <daftykins> Mendax: nobody here cares about that channel. go ask in #freenode
[17:04] <Mendax> what is the problem
[17:05] <therue> i picked the nvidia proprietary.. the one that says recommended
[17:05] <Mendax> not getting any response at the bootloader ARE YOU
[17:05] <therue> i belive it's nvidia 331
[17:05] <therue> but that's not the latest driver though.. the latest is 340.58
[17:05] <flaiks> for some reason
[17:05] <daftykins> Mendax: are you a bot?
[17:05] <flaiks> nautilus wont let me add any folders to the left pane
[17:05] <Mendax> def not
[17:05] <Mendax> yiou know that
[17:05] <daftykins> Mendax: please leave then, unless you have an ubuntu support query.
[17:06] <Mendax> I can help you support your device
[17:07] <karab44> guys why do I need pulseaudio?
[17:07] <therue> so ya daftykins, any ideas? :D
[17:07] <daftykins> karab44: unless it's taking your family hostage, i would just accept it and use the computer.
[17:07] <daftykins> therue: nope
[17:08] <daftykins> therue: i don't really know how you could quantify this claim of 'Windows looking better'
[17:08] <karab44> daftykins: it only causes problems
[17:08] <ralph> I have no clue what I'm doing with the wireless...can someone walk me through this?
[17:09] <therue> i linux the videos just come out more grainy
[17:09] <nedal> OerHeks: I was looking for something simplier, like basic things
[17:09] <therue> it's the same for images and videos.. any graphics really, even my desktop dont look as bright/clear
[17:09] <therue> but video is most noticeable, 'cuz the grainy images is very noticeable
[17:10] <nedal> scarlson1: I don't get what you said, if it's a linux thing ... well I m a new user of it
[17:11] <sacarlson1> nedal: spice is an electronics simulator
[17:11] <sacarlson1> nedal: you can simulate simple circuits or very complex
[17:11] <azaskun> there is a similar program that dragon naturallyspeaking for ubuntu?
[17:11] <daftykins> ralph: does that thing have a wired network port that you can plug into your router directly with?
[17:12] <Mendax> dows any of you actually use ubuntu
[17:12] <Mendax> ?
[17:12] <ralph> daftykins: yes, upstairs. I wont be able to see what you say. so I'll have to run back and forth lol
[17:12] <yeats> therue: you *can* install the latest nvidia driver from nvidia's site, but you'll have to re-install it after every kernel upgrade (or set up dkms or the like)
[17:12] <CraigyDavi> I'm trying to get the user "craig" to be able to use all commands without a password or without using sudo - pretty much like a root account. I have added the line "craig   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" to /ect/sudoers but nothing seems to happen, anyone know why?
[17:12] <daftykins> ralph: but then you'd be online from the device right... via freenode webchat?
[17:13] <ralph> daftykins: possibly
[17:13] <yeats> therue: I've also seen success with older versions of the driver depending on the age of the card
[17:13] <ralph> daftykins: Ill give it a shot
[17:13] <ralph> hold o
[17:13] <ralph> n
[17:13] <nedal> Scarlson1: is it like oregano ?
[17:13] <OerHeks> Mendax, yes, do you have a support question?
[17:14] <felon> high
[17:14] <ralph1> daftykins: I'm here
[17:15] <daftykins> ralph1: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:15] <daftykins> ralph1: lspci | pastebinit
[17:15] <ash`> CraigyDavi: impossible
[17:16] <ash`> CraigyDavi: the sudoers is coupled with sudo
[17:16] <squinty> nedal:  maybe check at http://www.linuxalt.com/   or similar
[17:16] <OerHeks> ash` +1
[17:16] <ralph1> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9152350/
[17:16] <sacarlson1> nedal: http://easy-spice.sourceforge.net/documentation.html
[17:16] <daftykins> ralph1: realtek is your wired, intel 6235 is your wireless.
[17:16] <daftykins> ralph1: ifconfig -a | pastebinit
[17:17] <ralph1> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9152378/
[17:17] <OerHeks> CraigyDavi, if you want the whole terminal session to be root, use: sudo -i
[17:17] <OerHeks> CraigyDavi, but carefull, you might mess up things
[17:17] <CraigyDavi> ash`, ah I see
[17:18] <sacarlson1> nedal: yes looks like oregano also interfaces to ng-spice  maybe it's better I'm not sure
[17:18] <daftykins> ralph1: does "rfkill list all" show some output? if so, run "rfkill list all | pastebinit"
[17:18] <CraigyDavi> OerHeks, Thanks I'll try be careful :)
[17:18] <OerHeks> * don't run gui app as root
[17:18] <ralph1> daftykins: no
[17:18] <daftykins> ralph1: what version are you on? "cat /etc/issue"
[17:19] <ralph1> daftykins: ubuntu 14.04
[17:19] <ralph1> LTS
[17:19] <daftykins> ralph1: run a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and see if any packages want to be installed
[17:19] <ralph1> daftykins: they do
[17:19] <ralph1> install?
[17:19] <nedal> Scarlson; Thanks . You helped a lot, I found what I was looking for
[17:19] <daftykins> ralph1: yep
[17:19] <ubuntuaddicted> how would I set it up IF i wanted a certain x server configuration if i use lightdm.  i can choose a different session but that doesn't change what the x server does.
[17:20] <ralph1> daftykins: almost done
[17:21] <ubuntuaddicted> basically i want it so that if i choose an openbox session i want 2 different X servers to run. 1 on 1 monitor and the other on the other monitor
[17:21] <daftykins> ubuntuaddicted: sounnds like you want to make life unreasonably difficult for yourself
[17:22] <ubuntuaddicted> daftykins, that's what I do. :)  i need 2 X servers running though.
[17:22] <daftykins> why?
[17:22] <ubuntuaddicted> daftykins, to eliminate screen tearing on my second monitor (my gaming monitor)
[17:23] <daftykins> lol
[17:23] <daftykins> that's a ridiculous approach
[17:23] <ralph1> daftykins: it's done
[17:23] <ubuntuaddicted> daftykins, it's a limitation of X
[17:23] <daftykins> ralph1: reboot
[17:23] <ralph1> bbl
[17:24] <ubuntuaddicted> daftykins, i've spent that last 3 days attempting to get rid of the tearing and finally found out that X can only sync to 1 display, not both.  so 1 screen will be tear free because X can sync to that display BUT the other display "can" have tearing because X isnt' sync'ing to it's refresh rate
[17:24] <ubuntuaddicted> daftykins, and yes I've tried compton and kwin (compositors)  to get rid of the tearing
[17:25] <daftykins> different screen types is it?
[17:26] <ubuntuaddicted> daftykins, no, they're both 1920x1080 monitors. both have 60Hz refresh rates, they're just not the same exact model
[17:26] <daftykins> ah well good luck with that.
[17:26] <ubuntuaddicted> so back to my original question, how can I make x server launch 1 server on 1 monitor and another server on another monitor?
[17:27] <timvisher-xubunt> anyone know how to view past notifications in xubuntu?
[17:27] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: why is it that I have two monitors on this system and they seem to  work ok together?
[17:27] <timvisher-xubunt> dropbox is yelling at me with a fairly lengthy command and i'd rather just copy and paste it rather than trying to remember it or google it
[17:27] <ubuntuaddicted> timvisher-xubunt, you could try /var/log/messages
[17:27] <ralph> daftykins: It hung on boot and then loaded me into busybox
[17:27] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, what's desktop manager do you use?  also, you game? if so, what games?
[17:28] <timvisher-xubunt> ubuntuaddicted: sadly, that file doesn't exist?
[17:28] <daftykins> ralph: ooh-err, tried holding left shift on boot?
[17:28] <Mendax> Ubuntu is spyware
[17:28] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: no I don't game.  how can I find out what manager I'm running?
[17:28] <ubuntuaddicted> timvisher-xubunt, i'm not sure what notification system it's from. you could check syslog
[17:28] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, do you run Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu or which distro
[17:29] <ralph> daftykins: what happened to the comp?
[17:29] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: I run mate
[17:29] <timvisher-xubunt> yep. it's in syslog :)
[17:29] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, try to play this in fullscreen on each of your monitors and tell me if you get screen tearing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xkNy9gfKOg
[17:29] <daftykins> ralph: it's too far away for me to read its' mind right now, sadly
[17:30] <ralph> daftykins: I mean, what do you think happened?
[17:30] <timvisher-xubunt> now anyone mind telling me if this looks safe? `echo fs.inotify.max_user_watches=100000 | sudo tee -a /etc/sysctl.conf; sudo sysctl -p`
[17:30] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, mate uses gnome
[17:30] <daftykins> ralph: no idea.
[17:30] <ubuntuaddicted> timvisher-xubunt, there ya go. :)
[17:30] <ralph> shit
[17:30] <ralph> I hope I haven't lost all of my school work
[17:30] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: I see mdm in ps -A  is that the screen manager?
[17:30] <daftykins> ralph: doubt it. boot a USB flash drive of 14.04.1 and backup your data.
[17:31] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, that's your login manager i believe
[17:31] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, i said, you're using gnome. i'm not sure what compositor gnome has in by default if any at all.  what graphics card/driver do you use?
[17:32] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: yes it plays ok but has some jumpy ness maybe that's what you mean by tearing?
[17:32] <timvisher-xubunt> meh. yolo...
[17:33] <ralph> daftykins: hard disk is encrypted, no key either. Also, I just tried to boot with noapci so I could see whats going on
[17:33] <ralph> it's hanging when after it checks my rear webcam
[17:33] <daftykins> ralph: what about just picking an older kernel
[17:33] <daftykins> ralph: ugh at encryption.
[17:33] <ralph> yeah
[17:33] <daftykins> why don't you have the key written down?
[17:33] <ralph> Ive had my comp stolen before
[17:33] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: grafics just come out of the intel i5
[17:33] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, screen tearing is a horizontal line because 2 images from the video buffer are shown on the screen at the same because the X server isn't sync'd to that monitors refresh rate
[17:34] <ralph> daftykins: obviously because I'm dumb
[17:34] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_tearing
[17:35] <assemblyx> is it possible to have a vpn connection go through my proxy server?
[17:35] <daftykins> ralph: so, tried an older kernel? you can do it... i believe in you...
[17:35] <squinty> heh
[17:35] <ralph> daftykins: how?
[17:35] <ralph> with advanced?
[17:35] <daftykins> ralph: holding left shift at boot to get GRUB
[17:35] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: ya it does have that like steps about or 4 or more down the screen
[17:35] <ralph> okay
[17:35] <ralph> well
[17:35] <ralph> good start
[17:35] <ralph> i got to the password login
[17:35] <assemblyx> is it possible to have a vpn connection run through my proxy server?
[17:36] <ralph> assemblyx: yes
[17:36] <ralph> daftykins: and the wifi is working
[17:36] <daftykins> assemblyx: HTTP proxy? they're incompatible things
[17:36] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: and this is due to me having two monitors?
[17:36] <ralph> assemblyx: you have to use a socks proxy
[17:36] <ralph> daftykins: that was a close one
[17:36] <ralph> I was sweating bullets
[17:37] <ralph> daftykins: so, what now?
[17:37] <daftykins> ralph: so, know what you're gonna do now? 1) backup data 2) write down that key
[17:37] <ralph> daftykins: ahhhhaha
[17:37] <ralph> Of course that
[17:37] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, sort of yes
[17:37] <ralph> But I mean, is this issue permanent now?
[17:37] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, it's a very complicated mess to explain. it has to do with how the video is displayed on the screen.
[17:37] <daftykins> ralph: well i have a feeling an older kernel is working with the wireless, maybe the update earlier (and even before that) a newer kernel was on that isn't working. hard to say.
[17:38] <ralph> daftykins: any way to set my comp to use this kernel instead of the newer one?
[17:38] <safinaskar> what is ubuntu analogue of http.debian.net?
[17:38] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: in short it's due to my not so good graphics card
[17:38] <daftykins> ralph: yeah, remove the newer
[17:38] <safinaskar> i. e. i want service which automatically redirect me to nearest ubuntu mirror
[17:38] <ralph> daftykins: how do I do that?
[17:38] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, no
[17:38] <daftykins> safinaskar: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[17:39] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, has nothing to do with the quality of the graphics card.  it has to do with the display server, X server
[17:39] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: I think I can unplug one monitor and still see the same thing to verify
[17:39] <daftykins> safinaskar: if you're using desktop, there's a feature in the settings to select the best mirror.
[17:39] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: oh so this can be fixed with software cool
[17:39] <daftykins> ralph: identify it, then remove linux-image-3.x.x-blah
[17:40] <ralph> thanks
[17:41] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, if you switch to only 1 monitor and still see screen tearing there's things you can do to correct this behavior and 1 easy way to sync to vblank, setting vsync. that's basically telling the X server to sync to the monitors refresh rate
[17:41] <safinaskar> daftykins: thanks. but i still need some autoredirector
[17:42] <daftykins> safinaskar: what? no you just configure the different mirrors...
[17:42] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: and that's done in xorg.conf some place?
[17:43] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, im not sure how to turn on vsync when using an intel gpu/drivers
[17:43] <safinaskar> daftykins: i wrote universal tool for generating sources.list.   this tool just writes http.debian.net (redirector service) for debian.   i need same for ubuntu
[17:44] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: well it's not seen in my gui for monitor settings so I guess I'll just live with it
[17:44] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, yeah, i'm having troubles of my own eleminating screen tearing with a GTX 760 so I can't help you sorry
[17:45] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: that's ok, it doesn't bother me,  I've never really noticed it till now looking for it
[17:45] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, i understand. i hate screen tearing while i'm gaming. very annoying
[17:46] <merpnderp> How would I find out if Unubtu runs on these awesome super cheap laptops? http://store.hp.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/us/en/mdp/Laptops/hp-stream-notebook-13-135509--1
[17:47] <servernode> How to set http header to show public address instead of local ip?
[17:48] <sacarlson1> safinaskar: I thought they had something like that, that would scan to find the best mirror then set it for you
[17:48] <ubuntuaddicted> merpnderp, it looks like they're similar to chromebooks. it uses the cloud
[17:48] <xyphus> i have some queries
[17:48] <xyphus> is anyone online??
[17:48] <ubuntuaddicted> yes
[17:48] <kyle_Austin> Yeah...
[17:49] <ubuntuaddicted> merpnderp, so what i'm saying is look into how to install ubuntu on a chromebook and maybe, just maybe it's similar to how you would install ubuntu on those laptops you linked ot
[17:50] <ubuntuaddicted> merpnderp, here ya go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DWIJFtuY1A
[17:51] <merpnderp> ubuntuaddicted: I'm thinking I need to look at which device drivers are required and if Ubuntu supports them. Wish HP just sold them with Ubuntu already installed.
[17:51] <xyphus> i have some problems with backbox linux.
[17:51] <ubuntuaddicted> merpnderp, watch that video and it should fill you in
[17:53] <merpnderp> ubuntuaddicted: thanks :)
[17:56] <kingwill101> hi everytime i use apt i get this error: Error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildSignaled: Process org.freedesktop.PackageKit received signal 11   any suggestions???
[18:00] <servernode> How to set http header to show public address instead of local ip? Anyone?
[18:01] <ubuntuaddicted> is anyone familiar with how to get 2 x servers to start IF i choose a certain session at the lightdm login screen?
[18:04] <reisio> ubuntuaddicted: nvidia-settings can give you a xorg.conf configured for two separate X servers running at once
[18:04] <sacarlson1> servernode: I think there is a dhcp server method that can provide local names on the net, not sure how it works
[18:05] <ubuntuaddicted> reisio, it's not working for whatever reason. and when I view ps aux | grep X it only shows 1 x server running
[18:05] <sacarlson1> servernode: oh https header to display it on a website?  I'll have to look
[18:05] <reisio> ubuntuaddicted: well how'd you configure it?
[18:05] <servernode> sacarlson1: Thx
[18:06] <ubuntuaddicted> reisio, i used nvidia-settings to put Xscreen0 on 1 monitor and Xscreen1 on another monitor. saved it to xorg.conf and rebooted and it didn't work
[18:07] <ubuntuaddicted> reisio, here's a screenshot http://gyazo.com/a005c91d450d3fca918bca5d03551746  and here's my xorg.conf  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9153467/
[18:09] <ubuntuaddicted> reisio, also, i don't believe nvidia-settings is setting up the second x server to run on a different virtual terminal, for example tty8.  as I can see by ps aux | grep X there's only 1 x server running
[18:11] <CarlFK> apt-get source gstreamer1.0-plugins-base... what do I do to build that? (before I go hacking the change i want to make)
[18:11] <teward> CarlFK: is there something wrong with just installing that?
[18:11] <teward> instead of building?
[18:11] <CarlFK> teward: it doesn't have my mod ;)
[18:11] <DeaDSouL> Hi, if a directory's name starts with '-' (dash)... how can I rename it from terminal.. I tried mv.. but it doesn't work... it thinks the dash is a part of the command option
[18:12] <servernode> sacarlson1: I don't know if i expressed myself good enough, but my problem lies in that when I'm trying to reach my website from outside my local network it does not work because the server insists on identifying with it's local ip address instead of "plantbaserat.ddns.net".
[18:12] <CarlFK> i'm assuming all apt-get source gives me something that has a well defined build process, like whatever lp does when you upload to a PPA
[18:13] <teward> CarlFK: it downloads the source package, yes.  It's up to you to modify it according to what you need
[18:14] <CarlFK> teward: before i modify, I wanted to make sure I can build it as is
[18:14] <teward> CarlFK: ah, well, you'd need pbuilder or such to build the actual package
[18:14] <sacarlson1> servernode: I think I understand you want a website (local?) to see not only the ip address but the host name of the clients computer that accessing the website on a local net
[18:14] <teward> CarlFK: but otherwise you could upload to a PPA - if it's the `apt-get source` package then it should autobuild, but you'll need pbuilder or sbuild set up and configured to build locally
[18:16] <trism> CarlFK: once you have run: apt-get build-dep package-name; you can generally build it with: dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -b; without needed to set up pbuilder (assuming you have dpkg-dev and fakeroot installed)
[18:16] <sacarlson1> servernode: oh then I was wrong you just need to change the servers hostname
[18:16] <CarlFK> trism: thanks.  I figured there was something like that
[18:17] <CarlFK> trism: and thank you for picking up the licked cookie ;)
[18:18] <servernode> got disconnected
[18:19] <sacarlson1> servernode: oh maybe you just need to setup port forwarding on your router to point to the server?
[18:19] <servernode> sacarlson1: done
[18:19] <sacarlson1> servernode: so that didn't work?
[18:20] <servernode> Port forwarding worked in that matter that the browser get forwarded to <IP_ADDRESS> (server on lan)
[18:20] <sacarlson1> servernode: then you also need to setup the virtual settings in apache if that's what your using
[18:20] <Guest13632> hi all i did a fresh install xubuntu and installed all updates but now on youtube cant see the play/pause button  or the volume button its totally black how can that be?
[18:21] <servernode> sacarlson1: I'm not familiar with virtual settings
[18:21] <bubbasaures> Guest13632, On firefox?
[18:21] <sacarlson1> servernode: are you using apache?
[18:21] <servernode> sacarlson1: Yes
[18:21] <servernode> sacarlson1: LAMP
[18:22] <sacarlson1> servernode: so it works from outside but not from local?
[18:22] <servernode> sacarlson1: And I have a Prestashop (ecommerce) setup
[18:23] <servernode> sacarlson1: I can visit the website from another computer within the LAN
[18:23] <sacarlson1> servernode: or it works on local but not from outside,  or never works when you use your dns name?
[18:23] <Guest13632> bubbasaures: yes it is on firefox and when i disable flash the videos keep playing and i dont think its something with adblock plus i really dont know
[18:24] <sacarlson1> servernode: so by name example.com you can reach your server on lan?
[18:24] <bubbasaures> Guest13632, Start FF without the addons running
[18:24] <Guest13632> bubbasaures: i will try it 1 sec
[18:24] <servernode> sacarlson1: And when I visit the website from my dns-name (plantbaserat.ddns.net) the url in my browser changes to <IP_ADDRESS> and the page doesn't load
[18:24] <bubbasaures> Guest13632, It's in the help tab in FF.
[18:25] <Guest13632> yes i found it
[18:25] <Guest13632> not its working
[18:25] <Guest13632> now its working
[18:25] <servernode> sacarlson1: from a local computer i can reach if I type <IP_ADDRESS> in the browser
[18:25] <bubbasaures> Guest13632, Be sure to preference with nicks of the one your addressing when here.
[18:26] <Guest13632> bubbasaures: its working how can i now look for the problem? i have adblock plus with all filters and betterprivacy  do u think it can be one of this two things?
[18:26] <jak3000> hi all
[18:26] <jak3000> i do this: ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS>/24 up  and then:  route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>   how to make this changes permanently (when i rebooth the server, again need type these 2 commands) thanks
[18:27] <servernode> sacarlson1: seems like the web-server responds like if it "is" it's local ip
[18:27] <jak3000> for enable the network
[18:27] <bubbasaures> Guest13632, Probably, I would remove one at a time until you find the culprit, there is a #firefox channel as well if needed.
[18:27] <servernode> sacarlson1: wich works on lan
[18:27] <Guest13632> bubbasaures: thanks very much for your help your the best man !!!!
[18:27] <sacarlson1> servernode: I just went to that site and see the same thing
[18:28] <servernode> sacarlson1: ;)
[18:28] <sacarlson1> servernode: but the dig plantbaserat.ddns.net  returns what looks like valid wan address
[18:28] <bubbasaures> Guest13632, No problem.
[18:28] <sacarlson1> servernode: so I should assume you have the apache configs not setup correctly
[18:29] <jak3000> sacarlson1 any advice for me?
[18:29] <Guest13632> bubbasaures: i already found the problem it was user agent overrider this addon gives a bug on youtube  when activated also the youtube logo dissaperes but now i know the problem
[18:30] <sacarlson1> servernode: it's like it has some proxy thing setup?
[18:30] <servernode> sacarlson1: I have by trial and fail come this far without knowing anything at all following lots and lots of guides, but with this I havent even been sure on what to search for
[18:30] <bubbasaures> Guest13632, Ah, yes that addon works best when a website wants like IE 8 or before.
[18:30] <servernode> sacarlson1: No proxy set up what I know of
[18:30] <servernode> sacarlson1: apache configs could be it
[18:31] <sacarlson1> servernode: can you look in /var/log/apache  and see if it does see the trafic?
[18:31] <sacarlson1> servernode: I'm not even totaly sure it makes it to the correct server
[18:32] <Guest13632> bubbasaurres: last question maybe u know a solution for this to when i disable flash the youtube is still playing the movies instead asking to activate flash why is that? (is disable flash for supercookies)
[18:32] <sacarlson1> servernode: do you have your server setup as static?
[18:32] <sacarlson1> static ip
[18:32] <servernode> sacarlson1: Yes, static
[18:32] <bubbasaures> Guest13632, I would use noscript to filter flash, not sure how you turning it off.
[18:33] <bubbasaures> you're*
[18:33] <sacarlson1> jak3000: you should be able to set that up in /etc/networks/interfaces
[18:33] <servernode> sacarlson1: wrote privately
[18:33] <cholcobo[]> so i have ubuntu on virtualbox but it won't go full screen
[18:33] <cholcobo[]> it's stuck on 640x480
[18:33] <cholcobo[]> anybody know what to do?
[18:33] <jak3000> ok, tanks sacarlson1
[18:33] <jak3000> testing
[18:34] <tigerren> hello,everybody
[18:34] <Guest13632> bubbasaures: if there are supercookies on my pc they can reveal my real ip if i use vpn but how can i track down the supercookies? i already use betterprivacy but i heard some supercookies  cant be deleted
[18:34] <jak3000> sacarlson1 worked thanks
[18:34] <jak3000> how to upgrade my pakages for install ubuntu-server the lastest version?
[18:34] <cholcobo[]> Guest13632, the best option
[18:34] <cholcobo[]> is to refrain from using computers
[18:34] <cholcobo[]> Guest13632, that is the only way
[18:34] <k1l> cholcobo[]: install guest-additions in the vbox guest
[18:34] <cholcobo[]> get off the internet
[18:35] <cholcobo[]> i mean, nobody likes you anyway so that's reason enough
[18:35] <Guest13632> cholcobo[]: i dont understand it? what is the best option?
[18:35] <bubbasaures> Guest13632, Not an area I have messed with or even care about is all, hiding a IP I only do here.
[18:36] <Guest13632> bubbasaures: oke thanks anyway have a nice day !
[18:36] <flaiks> its actually mind blowing how much faster 14.04 is than osx yosemite
[18:36] <bubbasaures> you to
[18:37] <squinty> Guest13632:  might want to google  "bleachbit super cookies"   bleachbit is available via the standard repo's
[18:37] <cholcobo[]> guest13632 the CIA is listening to everything you say right now
[18:38] <thexder1> Hello, does anyone know what cifs_mount return code -115 means?
[18:38] <k1l> Guest13632: youtube sues html5, too
[18:38] <Guest13632> squinty: i once used bleachbit and it f*cked my pc when i used wipe free space but i will take a look at it
[18:38] <k1l> *uses
[18:38] <Guest13632> k1l:ahh thanks
[18:39] <reisio> thexder1: the source code knows
[18:39] <Guest13632> cholcobo[]: the cia can listen what they want  and yes i know they can track everybody down with browser fingerprint
[18:39] <l0rdn1x> lmao
[18:39] <thexder1> reisio, I was hoping to not have to go through the source code to find out.
[18:39] <squinty> Guest13632:  please don't respond to obvious trolls
[18:40] <Guest13632> squinty: haha ok i knew it was a troll
[18:47] <posthuman> im running ubuntu 12.04 lts with qemu/kvm. i ve installed 8 windows server 2012 VMs and noticed that %CPU (looking at"top") is about 30-60% for each PID related to qemu-system-x86. While %Cpu(s) is around 19,4 be   in total usage. Can u please explain what is happening here ?
[18:48] <reisio> posthuman: it seems as though you're using your computer
[18:48] <D41LY5H4D0W> Hello
[18:49] <reisio> 'lo dshadow
[18:49] <BanHammor> Hi.
[18:51] <posthuman> reisio:  why does it sometimes show about 104% CPU usage on some hosts while the average CPU(s) usage is about 20% ?
[18:51] <posthuman> *hosts = VMs
[18:51] <ubuntuaddicted> does anyone know how to launch 2 xservers on 2 different monitors? and be able to use the same mouse/keyboard between them>
[18:52] <bekks> The cpu usage inside a vm is irrelevant, actually.
[18:52] <bekks> You have to measure the cpu consumption of the vm on the host, to get comparable results.
[18:54] <posthuman> thank u bekks for your answer.  I am not talking about the cpu usage inside a vm  but what  top  shows for each  qemu-system-x86  running on my kvm host
[18:56] <posthuman> so there are  eight  qemu-system-x86 PIDs running each 70% CPU usage within   top  but the average %CPU(s) at the headlines of top usage is round about 10%-20%.
[18:59] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: I can run two totaly different computers with 2 servers with the same mouse and keyboard and 2 monitors using synergy
[18:59] <reisio> posthuman: so what's the problem?
[19:00] <reisio> sacarlson1: he's talking about a single box
[19:00] <reisio> and won't listen to advice given
[19:00] <sacarlson1> reisio: I've also used it on a single box with virtualbox
[19:00] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: http://synergy-project.org/
[19:00] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, im aware of that. that's not what I want. thanks though
[19:01] <ubuntuaddicted> sacarlson1, i use synergy to manage my server. :)
[19:01] <posthuman> reisio:  i dont get  how  8x 70% usage  equal  20% total CPU usage. Im sure its just me beeing stupid but might u just explain it to me :)
[19:01] <bekks> There is no need for synergy in conjunction with vbox, since vbox supports mouse/keyboard integration. :)
[19:01] <reisio> sacarlson1: still two :p
[19:01] <sacarlson1> ubuntuaddicted: ya I can even control my android phone with it too ha ha
[19:01] <reisio> posthuman: what do you get if you understand it?
[19:02] <sacarlson1> bekks: but if you want to experiment with synergy and you only have one computer (like me)  it can be done
[19:02] <bekks> sacarlson1: I know it can be done - but I dont see a practical reason for it :)
[19:02] <bekks> sacarlson1: besides "curiousity" :)
[19:03] <reisio> posthuman: http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1185981#p23452473
[19:03] <reisio> moreover: you gain nothing by answering the question
[19:04] <flaiks> is it possible to show the menus in unity by default ?
[19:06] <reisio> flaiks: something like http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/disable-appmenu-global-menu-in-ubuntu.html
[19:07] <k1l> flaiks: press super+a
[19:08] <fmoo> Is there best practices for bug reporting (e.g., re-testing on a clean profile?) I can find docs on?
[19:09] <fmoo> I've got some clowny stuff happening with the vpn editing in network manager since updating to 14.10
[19:09] <flaiks> reisio, nah, i want to show all the time instead of only showing when you hover over lol
[19:09] <posthuman> reisio: thank u very much :) i guess i now know where to start
[19:15] <D41LY5H4D0W> hello
[19:16] <D41LY5H4D0W> do anybody knows how can i torify my chat
[19:16] <D41LY5H4D0W> ??
[19:16] <reisio> torify mychat
[19:16] <D41LY5H4D0W> xchat!!
[19:17] <l0rdn1x> D41LY5H4D0W, just use ssl to connect to IRC, tor is blocked by IRC servers.
[19:17] <Moter8> Hey, just wanted to ask if installing ubuntu through Wubi is still recommended?
[19:17] <llutz> D41LY5H4D0W: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorifyHOWTO/XChat
[19:17] <Moter8> I'm on a win8.1 x64 machine.
[19:19] <D41LY5H4D0W> lordnlx how i do that
[19:20] <Moter8> D41LY5H4D0W, http://i.imgur.com/KE8VTt2.png
[19:20] <Moter8> depends on your client
[19:20] <DJones> D41LY5H4D0W: It might be best if you join #freenode and ask about using tor for freenode irc
[19:21] <Moter8> he will get told to google
[19:21] <D41LY5H4D0W> thanks
[19:22] <D41LY5H4D0W> ok, thanks
[19:22] <DJones> D41LY5H4D0W: Just thinking that thats the main support channel for the freenode irc network, I'd ignore what motor8 said, sounds like made upinfo
[19:23] <flaiks> there we go
[19:23] <flaiks> screw xchat
[19:23] <flaiks> on that weechat.
[19:23] <Silenced> what the best application for IRC ?
[19:23] <flaiks> Silenced: irssi or weechat
[19:23] <flaiks> Xchat feels old
[19:23] <SpaghettiCat> BitchX
[19:24] <Silenced> Thunderbird ?
[19:24] <SpaghettiCat> pidgin
[19:24] <Silenced> Isn't it good ?
[19:24] <DJones> Silenced: There isn't really a best app for anything, its what suits you best, I use irssi running on a server
[19:24] <dorkusmaximus> ircII-EPIC
[19:25] <Silenced> Djones: Thanks man !!
[19:25] <neurosis-> hexchat is nice
[19:25] <DJones> Silenced: But there's a big learning curve because its command line based rather than a GUI
[19:26] <Silenced> Djones: U means irssi ?
[19:26] <DJones> Silenced: Yes
[19:26] <bekks> Silenced: Most likely, an IRC application suits best for IRC. Thunderbird is a mail client, pidgin is an instant messenger, hexchat, weechat, irssi, etc. are IRC applications.
[19:26] <Silenced> Djones: Thanks buddy , I love command line
[19:27] <sharkasdf> Trying to install ubuntu from usb, but I dont have install from usb on my boot order. I just have hard drive, floppy diskette drive, atapi cd rom drive and network adaptor. Whcih one would it be?
[19:27] <Raven67854> sharkasdf, Some USB devices can show up as a HD.
[19:27] <bekks> sharkasdf: Noone of the named. Your computer has to be able to boot from USB.
[19:27] <sharkasdf> its 10 years old
[19:28] <Raven67854> Probably can't boot to usb
[19:28] <bekks> sharkasdf: Then it wont boot from USB at all, most likely.
[19:28] <Silenced> My 20 year Old computer has USB bootable
[19:28] <bekks> Silenced: 20 years ago, there was no USB. Move on please :)
[19:28] <bubbasaures> sharkasdf, That old, check the minimal ubuntu needed, there are lighter setups.
[19:28] <neurosis-> Check your BIOS
[19:29] <BanHammor> Silenced: you are a wizard, considering USB was started in...1995?
[19:29] <sharkasdf> Like Linuxmint
[19:29] <sharkasdf> ?
[19:29] <bekks> BanHammor: In 1996. :)
[19:29] <bubbasaures> sharkasdf, Like lubuntu
[19:29] <ianorlin> that is 18 years old
[19:29] <bprompt> sharkasdf:      if you put in the usb stick before booting up and go into setup/bios screen, does it show the usb stick as a boot choice?   some older machines would show it if plugged in at boot in setup/bios and you can pick it from there
[19:29] <bekks> sharkasdf: Linux Mint isnt Ubuntu minimal.
[19:30] <Silenced> 10 years OLD :P I m sorry :P
[19:30] <sharkasdf> Ok. Thank you for your help. I found it in the BIOS. The hard drive had a + next to it that allowed me to expand it and see the usb and hard drive. I've never seen that before
[19:30] <sharkasdf> Someone stole my last one. This one will have to do
[19:30] <Silenced> bekks: It has pentium III running in it
[19:31] <ianorlin> I would definetly try lubuntu or something lighter
[19:31] <daftykins> Pentium III? bury it.
[19:31] <flaiks> daftykins: agreed
[19:32] <sharkasdf> I need something right now. I have LinuxMint 17 and Ubuntu 14.04. Which would be lighter do you know?
[19:32] <ikonia> neither
[19:32] <flaiks> sharkasdf: is it running on a pentium 3? I would go with neither, I would do lubuntu
[19:32] <neurosis-> xubuntu is that light
[19:32] <flaiks> sharkasdf: mint uses cinnamon, which is still not 'light'
[19:33] <bprompt> sharkasdf:     how much ram do you have?   1gb?  ddr1? ddr2? ddr3?   what cpu speed?   what would "lighter" stand for ?
[19:33] <sharkasdf> 1gb ddr 1. Its an AMD hold on let me check the model
[19:33] <flaiks> sharkasdf: back in the day on a p4 i would just run arch and something super light(flux, openbox, dwm)
[19:33] <bprompt> hmm
[19:33] <Silenced> Essentials that a Ubuntu user must know ?
[19:34] <ikonia> Silenced: https://help.ubuntu.com
[19:34] <bprompt> sharkasdf:    ddr1..... single core 1.3ghz?
 Thanks :D
[19:34] <des__> hi anyone use citadel email server i am stuck trying to get the active directory to work
[19:34] <neurosis-> http://www.howtogeek.com/172987/revive-your-old-pc-the-3-best-linux-systems-for-old-computers/
[19:34] <ikonia> howtogeek = poor
[19:35] <SpaghettiCat> I don't he's pour with all that ad revenue
[19:35] <bprompt> DIY !== poor; per se
[19:35] <SpaghettiCat> *poor
[19:36] <sharkasdf> ok this is what i got. Athlon 64 2.0ghz
[19:36] <sharkasdf> Athlon 64 processor 3200+ 1800mhz
[19:37] <sharkasdf> 1254MiB ram, not sure what kind
[19:37] <flaiks> sharkasdf: I personally would run something super light, xubuntu or lubuntu
[19:37] <flaiks> sharkasdf: what kind of GPU ?
[19:38] <sharkasdf> Well I wish I could run something smaller, but thats not an option.
[19:38] <neurosis-> I have a old Pc I think its like 10yrs old and it is running debian 7
[19:38] <sharkasdf> I only have those 2. My internet is not fast enough nor do I have the money to download a new OS
[19:38] <bekks> sharkasdf: you dont need money for downloading Ubuntu.
[19:38] <ikonia> I suggest not using either
[19:39] <neurosis-> bekks no its free
[19:39] <sharkasdf> Graphics is Radeon Xpress 200 RS480M
[19:39] <sharkasdf> I do for internet data though
[19:39] <sharkasdf> It's expensive =
[19:39] <sharkasdf> =\
[19:39] <bprompt> sharkasdf:      are your two choices due to bandwidth constraints.. linuxmint and ubuntu 14.04?
[19:39] <sharkasdf> Yes.
[19:40] <sharkasdf> I pay by the MB
[19:40] <bprompt> sharkasdf:      are your two choices  "only" due to bandwidth constraints.. linuxmint and ubuntu 14.04?
[19:40] <sharkasdf> bprompt yes
[19:42] <flaiks> sharkasdf: ah yeah, What i would reccomend doing is going to a library and downbloadin it
[19:42] <bprompt> sharkasdf:     then I gather the lightweight, by definition, would be linuxmint then
[19:42] <flaiks> sharkasdf: or if you're a student download it on the schools internet
[19:42] <flaiks> sharkasdf: slap it on a usb and take it home and burn it
[19:43] <bekks> linux mint? lightweight? lol :)
[19:43] <bekks> USe an an ubuntu minimal.
[19:43] <bprompt> or just go to starbucks, get a chai tea, and download it there :P
[19:43] <flaiks> bprompt: capitol idea.
[19:43] <sharkasdf> ?
[19:43] <ianorlin> yeah lubuntu has more lightweight stuff than linux mint
[19:43] <flaiks> sharkasdf: go to starbucks and download it on their wifi
[19:43] <ianorlin> or even just a window manager if you want to go that way
[19:43] <flaiks> sharkasdf: dont get a chai latte though lol
[19:43] <ianorlin> that depends on wifi chip
[19:44] <ianorlin> if it is some broadcom might need to plug it into ethernet
[19:44] <bprompt> ianorlin:     many other distributions are lighter than linuxmint... .but sharkasdf    is saying that he already downloaded only those two, Mint and 14.04... and due to MB/s pricing charges, he/she'd rather settle for the lighter of those
[19:45] <neurosis-> linuxmint Is generally one g i run Linux Mint
[19:45] <ianorlin> !info openbox
[19:45] <bekks> If he already downloaded both - he should use Ubuntu,.
[19:45] <zgn> after booting a ubuntu 14.04 usb ihadsetup useing win7 and unetbootin, when i try to bootusb i get error: file '/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found and it drops to grub rescue>
[19:45] <zgn> what do i do
[19:45] <sharkasdf> bprompt: yes. my only option due to bandwidth
[19:45] <flaiks> bekks: i feel unity would be way "heavier" than cinnamon
[19:45] <ianorlin> or could just download lightweight window manager won't be that much
[19:46] <neurosis-> Elementary OS is super light and small
[19:46] <zgn> Can anyonehelp me?
[19:46] <bekks> flaiks: Nothing on this planet forces you to use Unity or Cinnamon.
[19:46] <flaiks> sharkasdf: are you with comcast or something ?
[19:46] <flaiks> bekks: true story
[19:46] <zgn> can someone help me:(
[19:46] <bekks> flaiks: sudo apt-get lubuntu-desktop; done :)
[19:46] <bekks> !patience | zgn
[19:46] <flaiks> bekks: wasnt thinking too far intoi it, working on a huge node.js app at the same time
[19:49] <sharkasdf> flaiks, no i live in zambia. 3rd world internet blows
[19:49] <sharkasdf> I wish i had comcast
[19:50] <flaiks> sharkasdf: ah okay
[19:52] <neurosis-> sharkasdf what os have you downloaded
[19:52] <sharkasdf> Linuxmint 17 and ubuntu 14.04
[19:52] <sharkasdf> Its one or the other
[19:53] <neurosis-> All I can say is from experience ubuntu to didn't do so well on an older computer
[19:53] <bekks> neurosis-: So dont use Unity but one of the more lightweight desktop environments.
[19:54] <yeats> neurosis-: sharkasdf: use Lubuntu - it's excellent and very low footprint
[19:54] <Silenced> How to add environment variables in ubuntu ?
[19:54] <flaiks> anyone have any experience with photoshop cs6 + wine ?
[19:54] <neurosis-> bekks true
[19:54] <ianorlin> !purelxde
[19:55] <bprompt> sharkasdf:     linuxmint is ubuntu-based.... the selling point of it, is that is lighter, thus why I said "by definition"
[19:55] <ianorlin> that would give less download
[19:55] <ianorlin> if you have ubuntu downloaded already
[19:55] <ianorlin> but may take more time
[19:55] <yeats> flaiks: you probably need to ask in #winehq - but I'll recommend gimp as a functional replacment
[19:56] <flaiks> yeats: nah, ive tried gimp, no good
[19:57] <neurosis-> flaiks https://www.winehq.org/
[19:59] <flaiks> neurosis-: thanks
[19:59] <flaiks> neurosis-: managed to find a guide on askubuntu.com
[20:01] <sharkasdf> yeats I dont have lubuntu
[20:01] <flaiks> any reccomendations for good VM software ?
[20:01] <flaiks> anything similar to vmware fusion would be major
[20:02] <yeats> sharkasdf: see ianorlin's link about pure lxde
[20:03] <yeats> flaiks: KVM
[20:03] <sharkasdf> Ok maybe I will try that. Thank you yeats/ianorlin
[20:03] <yeats> sharkasdf: totally worth it
[20:04] <owner_> owner
[20:05] <timvisher-xubunt> anyone familiar with fixing 14.04 laptop brightness controls?
[20:07] <timvisher-xubunt> this and various other things doesn't seem to do anything http://itsfoss.com/fix-brightness-ubuntu-1310/
[20:09] <sloantothebone> Help me!!!!
[20:09] <neurosis-> flaiks are you running vmware?
[20:09] <timvisher-xubunt> sloantothebone: are you being attacked?
[20:09] <sloantothebone> Startup applications is gone!
[20:10] <sloantothebone> I've tried reinstalling gnome-session-bin but it didn't work! Am I the only one, or is this the result of an update?
[20:10] <flaiks> neurosis-: no
[20:10] <k1l> sloantothebone: what ubuntu is that? what desktop? what error? what did you do?
[20:11] <flaiks> neurosis-: just figured if there was something similar to vmware fusion it'd be easier for photoshop, im having a hell of a time getting it running
[20:11] <sloantothebone> The gnome-session-bin reinstallation was a success but I don't have gnome-session properties (14.04)
[20:11] <sloantothebone> I don't know what I did
[20:11] <yeats> flaiks: run windows in VirtualBox - it would be easier than trying to use Wine
[20:11] <Zido> does Ubuntu run on systemd?
[20:11] <neurosis-> o ok cool
[20:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Zido: We're transitioning to systemd
[20:11] <k1l> sloantothebone: what did you do? what error do you get?
[20:12] <k1l> Zido: no, not in general
[20:12] <flaiks> lol
[20:12] <Zido> why is Ubuntu transitioning to systemd?
[20:12] <flaiks> skype froze my system
[20:12] <neurosis-> i run win 8.1 in VMware Player
[20:12] <flaiks> my mouse is locked :/
[20:12] <k1l> Zido: because debian decided against upstart.
[20:12] <Zido> k1l; so Ubuntu does what Debian does?
[20:13] <sloantothebone> ~$ gnome-session-properties
[20:13] <sloantothebone> The program 'gnome-session-properties' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[20:13] <sloantothebone> sudo apt-get install gnome-session-bin
[20:13] <Zido> k1l; are you aware of the systemd controversy that's been bloating up the news lately?
[20:13] <k1l> Zido: no. but since all big distros will change to systemd there is no sense in running upstart alone since systemd couples a lot of services to systemd.
[20:14] <yeats> !debian | Zido
[20:14] <k1l> Zido: yes we are. but that is more a topic for #ubuntu-offtopic since we try to solve actual tehcnical issue in here
[20:14] <Zido> k1l; sorry
[20:15] <sloantothebone> I typed sudo apt-get remove gnome-session-bin && sudo apt-get install gnome-session-bin and nothing went wrong except I get the same error when I try to run gnome-session-properties
[20:15] <k1l> sloantothebone: again: what did you do? there is no reason to gnome not to work for no reason
[20:15] <sloantothebone> I didn't do anything!
[20:15] <k1l> sloantothebone: ...
[20:15] <k1l> sloantothebone: what did you do before the error came up?
[20:16] <sloantothebone> One day I searched for it and it was gone!
[20:17] <k1l> sloantothebone: *sigh* so you mean a ghost deleted stuff from your system and one day you think "well, i want to see if a program is installed" and then you see its gone?
[20:17] <k1l> sloantothebone: did you install/remove stuff? did you add 3rd party repos or PPAs? did you remove desktops?
[20:17] <timvisher-xubunt> so grub doesn't seem to be the answer to the brightness controls
[20:18] <flaiks> that was messed up
[20:18] <flaiks> opened skype
[20:18] <flaiks> locked my mouse
[20:18] <sloantothebone> Ok, I found out about this when I searched "start" in the Dash, looking for startup applications, and it was gone. I looked on google and finding http://askubuntu.com/questions/452661/where-is-start-up-applications-in-14-04-unity which told me another way to open it is to type gnome-session-properties in the terminal. The rest is history.
[20:18] <neurosis-> flaiks that sucks
[20:18] <sloantothebone> kil: a ghost, a virus, or a wormhole the point is I don't know.
[20:19] <flaiks> neurosis-: tell me about iut
[20:19] <sloantothebone> I was considering removing Uget from startup
[20:19] <flaiks> it
[20:19] <flaiks> neurosis-: i think it was because it was the first itme i ever launched it, got flooded with notifications from chats from literally forever
[20:19] <sloantothebone> I installed unity tweak tool, could that have caused it?
[20:20] <k1l> sloantothebone: you are using unity?
[20:20] <neurosis-> flaiks i was just saying i run vm player
[20:20] <neurosis-> it works good for me
[20:20] <sloantothebone> yes
[20:21] <Zido> yes
[20:21] <flaiks> neurosis-: ah aoky
[20:21] <flaiks> neurosis-: you ever used vmware fusion before ?
[20:21] <k1l> sloantothebone: please do a "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[20:21] <sloantothebone> I once tried installing kubuntu-desktop but I didn't like it but couldn't change it back to ubuntu and everything got worse when I tried to fix it so I reinstalled ubuntu over everything
[20:22] <sloantothebone> I already tried sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:22] <neurosis-> flaiks no you?
[20:22] <flaiks> neurosis-: yeah its insanely good, there's nothing like it
[20:23] <flaiks> neurosis-: you can install windows/mac annd it runs the programs outside of the "VM" persay
[20:23] <flaiks> neurosis-: it will run the OS's apps as if they were native apps, unfortunatly it's not available for linux
[20:23] <neurosis-> I'm going to check it out thanks
[20:23] <k1l> sloantothebone: hmm. works for me on unity 14.10.
[20:24] <neurosis-> o i see the win only
[20:24] <k1l> sloantothebone: maybe make a relogin?
[20:24] <neurosis-> lol
[20:24] <JaY_DeE> r
[20:24] <neurosis-> you can to that in vm player its called unity
[20:25] <neurosis-> to run programs outside of the vm
[20:25] <flaiks> neurosis-:  ? link ?
[20:25] <flaiks> neurosis-: because i would rather do that to run photoshop and dick around with wine
[20:25] <neurosis-> http://bruce.krash.net/?p=183
[20:26]  * sloantothebone wonders how to manually edit startup
[20:26] <k1l> sloantothebone: did you relogin?
[20:26] <flaiks> neurosis-: damn
[20:26] <flaiks> neurosis-: thanks
[20:27] <neurosis-> its cool
[20:27] <flaiks> neurosis-: yeah thats exactly what I was looking for
[20:32] <neurosis-> i think you can get vbox in the Ubuntu Software Center if you don't like vm player
[20:33] <bekks> you can get it from their official website, too.
[20:33] <AlexPortable> Can I move my ubuntu harddisk to another pc?
[20:34] <AlexPortable> Or will this cause driver issues?
[20:34] <bekks> AlexPortable: you can easily copy it.
[20:34] <AlexPortable> no I mean move the whole dissk
[20:34] <AlexPortable> I want to swap 2 diskss
[20:34] <bekks> So do it.
[20:34] <AlexPortable> won't it cause any issues?
[20:34] <bekks> AlexPortable: That depends on your hardware.
[20:34] <AlexPortable> how can I find out?
[20:35] <flaiks> neurosis-: no i think vmware will do just fine
[20:35] <AlexPortable> if it causes issues can I just move the disks back or willl this not work?
[20:35] <flaiks> it has unity mode which it exactly what imlooking for neurosis-
[20:35] <bekks> AlexPortable: you need to compare the hardware of both computers.
[20:35] <neurosis-> flaiks cool
[20:35] <OerHeks> roll back videodriver to nouveau, and you'll be fine
[20:35] <AlexPortable> bekks: they are quite different
[20:35] <AlexPortable> video driver is xorg now
[20:35] <bekks> AlexPortable: "xorg" is no video driver.
[20:36] <AlexPortable> well it says so
[20:36] <bekks> AlexPortable: Where does what say so?
[20:36] <bekks> AlexPortable: Which graphics hardware do you have?
[20:36] <AlexPortable> the one is amd v140, not sure what gpu. the other one is intel something with nvidia 6300
[20:37] <bekks> AlexPortable: you need to find out the cou of that amd v140.
[20:37] <bekks> AlexPortable: just take a look at "lspci | grep VGA"
[20:38] <bekks> s/cou/gpu/
[20:39] <AlexPortable> amd radeon hd 4200 from the top of my head
[20:39] <bekks> AlexPortable: Just run the command I gave you :)
[20:39] <AlexPortable> I'm not on the pc atm
[20:39] <bekks> So your question cannot be answered.
[20:40] <AlexPortable> lol
[20:40] <bekks> AlexPortable: Without knowing your hardware - how are we supposed to tell you "you need to do this or that with the GPU drivers."?
[20:40] <AlexPortable> well it's radeon hd 4200
[20:42] <bekks> AlexPortable: Then you will have to uninstall the drivers for that GPU and install the drivers for the Nvidia GPU.
[20:43] <AlexPortable> ok
[20:43] <daftykins> 4200 is old generation and unsupported by fglrx on 14.04
[20:43] <daftykins> so you can't use anything other than the open source driver anyway
[20:43] <AlexPortable> so what should I do?
[20:43] <daftykins> get a new card
[20:43] <AlexPortable> it's a laptop...
[20:43] <AlexPortable> cards can't be changed
[20:44] <daftykins> i haven't been following the conversation though, i just glanced in
[20:44] <bekks> USe the opensource driver
[20:44] <daftykins> yeah i understand how hardware works :) i just wasn't here
[20:44] <AlexPortable> openssource driver will work fine?
[20:44] <daftykins> well it's your only choice.
[20:44] <bekks> AlexPortable: You have no other choice.
[20:44] <AlexPortable> the reason I want to swap is because my system1 (the intel one) won't shutdown on ubuntu 10.04
[20:44] <AlexPortable> 14.04*
[20:44] <bekks> AlexPortable: Thats no valid reason for changing systems :)
[20:44] <AlexPortable> and I have linux mint on the v140 / hd 4200 one, but i can't print there. it just says 'done (printed'
[20:45] <AlexPortable> but prints nothing
[20:45] <estudiante> hola
[20:46] <AlexPortable> estudiante: hello there
[20:46] <Zippie> Hello!!!
[20:46] <estudiante> hello
[20:46] <estudiante> yuo ply minecraft
[20:46] <Snwspeckle> Question, I am trying to install lua-expat version 1.3.0-1 but every time I run sudo apt-get install lua-expat it says I have the newest version (1.2.0)
[20:46] <Zippie> This is awsome...my first time on a UBUNTU chat...sorry people I'm a newby...
[20:47] <daftykins> Zippie: support questions only in here, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:47] <neurosis-> Zippie its all good
[20:47] <AlexPortable> Anyone can maybe help me with getting my system to actually shutdown?
[20:47] <Zippie> Well this wgy I'm here battling to get my Cannon printer installed
[20:47] <AlexPortable> then I don't have to reinstall
[20:47] <bekks> AlexPortable: You dont have to reinstall at all, because that windows habbit doesnt fix issues.
[20:48] <emx> does anyone know a good guide how to get from ubuntu core rootfs to a configured linux box?
[20:48] <Snwspeckle> Any ideas whats wrong with lua-expat?
[20:48] <bekks> AlexPortable: What exactly happens when you issue "sudo init 0" in a terminal? Beware, that will shutdown your system.
[20:48] <AlexPortable> bekks: well I meant putting debian or mint on it or something else
[20:48] <dm7freek> Soooooo.... I locked my workstation and got some food and came back. Now, I see the login screen, and everything is normal EXCEPT the text box for password input wont load!!! what do I do?
[20:49] <bekks> AlexPortable: "that windows habbit doesnt fix issues". If you want to put Mint or Debian onto it, do it - but that will not fix your issues.
[20:49] <solsTiCe> dm7freek: happened to me. I rebooted
[20:49] <dm7freek> solsTiCe: I would usually do that, but this time it would be particularly annoying to have to do that
[20:49] <dm7freek> UBUNTU NINJAS ASSEEEEEEMMMMBBBLLLLEEE
[20:50] <kyle_Austin> Anyone know how to run QT Creator from command line?
[20:50] <bekks> kyle_Austin: "qtcreator"?
[20:50] <km4> hi, why i dont have folder /etc/shells ?
[20:50] <Zippie> Does anybody know where I could get some good Linux tutorials?
[20:50] <kyle_Austin> Correct
[20:50] <bekks> km4: Because it is a file.
[20:50] <kyle_Austin> i am trying to use qmake and having strange results
[20:51] <AlexPortable> bekks: how do you know it won't solve my issues? Ubuntu 10.04 ran fine, but 14.04 only gives problems
[20:51] <dm7freek> solsTiCe: Is it a commin issue for you?
[20:51] <dm7freek> common*
[20:51] <bekks> AlexPortable: So did you do what I told you? :)
[20:51] <Snwspeckle> Any ideas ? haha
[20:51] <km4> bekks: then where i can customaizing my zsh ?
[20:52] <bekks> km4: In your .zshrc file e.g.
[20:52] <AlexPortable> bekks: working on it
[20:52] <jeffspeff> i've just installed 14.04lts on an old laptop. the wifi chipset is broadcom. after the install i did updates. i saw under "additional drivers" it showed the broadcom wireless device. i chose to install it. it then errored out and crashed. i rebooted, but now it doesn't show the device/driver available under "additional drivers" and the wifi isn't working. i'm brand new to ubuntu and deb based systems.
[20:52] <jeffspeff> running dmesg | grep broadcom or dmesg | grep bcm doesn't show anything.
[20:52] <Kurlon> Afternoon all.  I assume the odds of Request-Tracker 4.2.8 or 4.2.4 being brought over from vivid or utopic to trusty (which is on 4.0.19) are slim given it's not just a straight drop in upgrade?
[20:53] <timvisher-xubunt> hmm... finally found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight#The_.2BAC8-sys.2BAC8-class.2BAC8-backlight_interface which i suspect i should've been trying to use this whole time :
[20:54] <dm7freek> where mah ninjas at?
[20:54] <PeterA_> I have an external monitor connected to my laptop
[20:55] <k1l> dm7freek: can you keep this channel clear for ubuntu support? thanks
[20:55] <timvisher-xubunt> it's times like these that i remember why i like macs :)
[20:55] <PeterA_> But the 12" laptop screen has the same resolution as the 24" external monitor
[20:55] <solsTiCe> it happend with 14.04 sometimes. really annoying. I have the impression it's gone since I upgraded to 14.10.
[20:55] <k1l> PeterA_: change the resolutions in system settings.
[20:56] <PeterA_> So when I plug it in everything is massive on the external or tiny on the laptop
[20:56] <k1l> PeterA_: like you would do  on any other OS
[20:56] <PeterA_> How can
[20:56] <PeterA_> How can I change the resolution past the monitor's hardware?
[20:56] <dm7freek> solsTiCe: 14.04 is LTS tho, shouldn't the fix be backported?
[20:56] <k1l> PeterA_: past the monitors hardware?
[20:56] <dm7freek> k1l: trying to get some myself tbh
[20:57] <solsTiCe> dm7freek: I have no idea if it's a reported bug
[20:57] <PeterA_> External is 1080p, I can't set it past that. I suppose I could lower the resolution on the laptop display, but that seems dumb
[20:57] <dm7freek> solsTiCe: ah! maybe I can report it. do you know where to go?
[20:57] <k1l> PeterA_: you can set different resolutions.
[20:58] <Snwspeckle> Why is my apt-get not grabbing the newest version of lua-expat and it thinks version 1.2.0 is the newest but really version 1.3.0 is
[20:58] <PeterA_> I don't want to lower the quality of the laptop screen though:(
[20:58] <solsTiCe> Petazz: you an't set diffrent dpi for each monitor. that's a shame of X11
[20:58] <k1l> Snwspeckle: which ubuntu are you on?
[20:58] <solsTiCe> dm7freek: launchad.net
[20:59] <AlexPortable> bekks: same as normal shutdown. Asking all remainig processes to terminate. Ok. Killing all remaining processes. Fail. Deactivating swap. Mount / is busy. Will now halt
[20:59] <PeterA_> So there's no solution?
[20:59] <k1l> PeterA_: i dont understand where your issue is right now
[20:59] <bekks> AlexPortable: So the system shutdown, but does not turn off? Thats an ACPI bug in your BIOS then.
[20:59] <Snwspeckle> k1l, 14.04 version
[20:59] <AlexPortable> bekks: 10.04 worked fine
[21:00] <solsTiCe> dm7freek: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1311316
[21:00] <AlexPortable> No issues at all
[21:00] <k1l> !info lua-expat trusty | Snwspeckle
[21:00] <AlexPortable> 14.04 just cant shutdown. Is it really my bios?
[21:00] <k1l> Snwspeckle: who says it should be 1.3 in 14.04?
[21:00] <Snwspeckle> k1l, According to launchpad: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lua-expat/1.3.0-1
[21:00] <AlexPortable> bekks: 14.04 just cant shutdown. Is it really my bios?
[21:01] <Snwspeckle> And my prosody XMPP server isn't working becuse of version 1.2.0
[21:01] <PeterA_> kll: I want to use the laptop screen and the external at the same time. I don't want to lower the resolution of the laptop screen, but since the large external and the small laptop screen have the same physical resolution (the hardware is 1080p), I can't set either past that
[21:01] <k1l> Snwspeckle: i think you dont know that versions on a release get freezed.
[21:01] <PeterA_> So things look massive on the external or tiny on the laptop
[21:01] <bekks> AlexPortable: Yes, it is, most likely. You could try adding "acpi=off" to your kernel command line.
[21:02] <Snwspeckle> k1l, What do you mean "freezed"?
[21:02] <AlexPortable> bekks: how can I add that?
[21:02] <k1l> Snwspeckle: look on the right handside. it only says utopic which is 14.10
[21:02] <dm7freek> solsTiCe: oh nice! fixed 9-17 means it won't be pushed for a while you think?
[21:02] <AlexPortable> bekks: and how does that relates to 10.04 being able to shutdown just fine?
[21:02] <k1l> Snwspeckle: before a release the software gets freezed so there are no version updates.
[21:02] <bekks> AlexPortable: BEcause 10.04 handled (due to a different kernel) ACPI differently.
[21:02] <k1l> Snwspeckle: this lists the versions and the releases: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lua-expat
[21:03] <bekks> AlexPortable: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2217602
[21:03] <bynarie> hey, im trying to get to the nvidia 3d settings.. running nvidia-settings takes me to a generic screen with no 3d options. i have installed nvidia binary driver
[21:03] <bynarie> any ideas?
[21:03] <AlexPortable> bekks: can I use the old kernel or not recommended? Also how can I add it to my kernel
[21:03] <Snwspeckle> k1l, So is there any way to update to 1.3.0?
[21:03] <km4> anyone nstal zsh-plugin ?
[21:03] <bekks> AlexPortable: Do not use that ancient kernel anymore.
[21:03] <k1l> Snwspeckle: see if a PPA offers a newer version
[21:03] <bekks> k1l: How does that poll help you?
[21:03] <PeterA_> kll: Is there a solution besides zoom each app depending on what screen it's on or lowering the laptop resolution?
[21:04] <PeterA_> Basically I'm looking for virtual high resolution on an external
[21:04] <k1l> Snwspeckle: see the link i posted and see at the bottom saing: other versions of ....
[21:04] <Kurlon> k1l: Outside of a PPA, is there a normal process for newer major releases to end up getting backported to an LTS repository?
[21:04] <AlexPortable> bekks: you mean add acpi=off to grub?
[21:04] <Snwspeckle> k1l, ah ok thanks!
[21:05] <k1l> Kurlon: security and bug patches get backported
[21:05] <bekks> AlexPortable: To the kernel command line. The article given just explains how to do it properly.
[21:05] <k1l> Kurlon: and for special software like browsers there are updates. xorg, drivers and kernel get backported with the enablement stack for the LTS
[21:06] <solsTiCe> dm7freek: look at comment #59
[21:06] <Kurlon> k1l: Ok, that tells me I should be able to push for RT to be bumped to 4.0.22 as it's bug fixes on top of 4.0.19, but no chance of getting 4.2.x as it's a major ver bump.
[21:06] <k1l> Kurlon: but in general, no. in special: talk to the maintainer
[21:06] <Kurlon> k1l: Thank you for clarifying that.  Now I have a sense of direction on this project. :D
[21:06] <k1l> Kurlon: depends. some times only 4.0.19 gets patched to 4.0.19-ubuntu3.
[21:07] <solsTiCe> dm7freek: or you could try https://launchpad.net/~3v1n0/+archive/ubuntu/unity-tests
[21:07] <k1l> Kurlon: it really depends on what the rest of the packages will do if that package is updated. lts is meant to be stable so not too much changes there.
[21:07]  * dm7freek dubs solsTiCe a Ubuntu ninja
[21:08] <dm7freek> solsTiCe: comment #14 was what I needed :)
[21:08] <k1l> PeterA_: if i understand you correct: you want 1080p on both monitors but want different dpi?
[21:08] <AlexPortable> bekks: well the article isn't clear. One says update grub, someone else says remove Cairo dock, someone else says install WiFi driver
[21:08] <bekks> AlexPortable: the article is very clear, it tells you how to tell GRUB to change the kernel command line.
[21:09] <bekks> And installing wifi drivers will not change the kernel command line to contain "acpi=off".
[21:09] <PeterA_> kll: yeah
[21:09] <k1l> PeterA_: ok, that will not work :/
[21:10] <PeterA_> So I have to lower the laptop res?
[21:10] <Zephyr1139> !partition
[21:11] <Snwspeckle> k1l, I got it working, thanks!
[21:12] <k1l> PeterA_: you need to find a dpi compromise
[21:12] <PeterA_> Any way to set up automatic zoom when I move applications between screens?
[21:13] <therue> weechat any good?
[21:13] <Zephyr1139> I am installing an additional HD into my dual booted desktop PC. What "partion type" should I use for this new drive? I want to be able to read and write to it from either OS (Windows Vista and Ubuntu).
[21:14] <pbx> PeterA_, i don't think so. i use compiz grid keybindings to move windows, but except for full-screen ones they don't auto-adapt
[21:14] <pbx> i do recommend taking advantage of compiz grid though
[21:17] <PeterA_> Dang it. Oh well I'll figure something out
[21:19] <flaiks> yeh
[21:19] <flaiks> vmware player in unity mode is wicked, can run photoshop without dealing all that BS
[21:19] <Zephyr1139> !LBA
[21:20] <AlexPortable> bekks: thanks it worked!!!
[21:21] <bow84> iho
[21:21] <flaiks> therue: yes, i switched from xchat
[21:21] <flaiks> therue: i enjoy it more, much lighter
[21:21] <therue> ya i'm considering trying that :D
[21:21] <flaiks> therue: what you on now ?
[21:22] <jhutchins_wk> irssi ftw
[21:22] <therue> hexchat
[21:22] <therue> well i'm actually on my windows right now
[21:22] <therue> lol
[21:22] <therue> hey since i just installed my linux
[21:22] <therue> was wondering if anyone could recommend some good software to download
[21:22] <jhutchins_wk> Lots of us run a central instance and we can access it through screen and putty or linux terminal.
[21:22] <bprompt> therue:    firefox :P
[21:22] <therue> like essential stuff for monitoring your system, music, video, cool useful applet, desklet,
[21:23] <bekks> AlexPortable: you're welcome. :)
[21:23] <therue> browsers take so much cpu in linux :(
[21:23] <bprompt> !conky | therue  maybe?
[21:23] <bprompt> hmm
[21:24] <therue> hmm conky looks cool :D
[21:27] <sparr> When I use `man` I see numbered lines. The numbering screws up word wrapping in my console. How can I disable the line numbers, or fix the wrapping?
[21:28] <dm7freek> man uses less i believe. try man less?
[21:28] <flaiks> man
[21:28] <flaiks> netflix slows my system down quite a bit
[21:28] <flaiks> oh BTW
[21:28] <bekks> Dont use netflix then :)
[21:28] <flaiks> is it possible to snap windows into quartters in unity
[21:28] <flaiks> rather than halves ?
[21:28] <flaiks> if that makes sense
[21:29] <flaiks> i was looking through the settings and couldnt find anything
[21:29] <rgenito> it looks like apt-get thinks i have a 32bit OS =[
[21:29] <rgenito> gcc-4.8-multilib : Depends: libc6-dev-i386 (>= 2.11)
[21:29] <rgenito> is this the case?
[21:29] <rgenito> any idea how i fix this? =\
[21:31] <daftykins> flaiks: no, the halves is a windows copy anyway
[21:33] <AlexPortable> What is casual photo editting software for ubuntu? I want to apply layers like black/white and other stuff?
[21:33] <k1l> gimp?
[21:34] <k1l> if its only easy stuff like cutting, rotating try shotwell
[21:36] <sparr> dm7freek: thanks. that explains it. new question :)
[21:36] <sparr> I'm using `less -N` to get line numbers. This results in lines wider than my terminal (by about the width of the line numbers). How can I fix that?
[21:37] <dm7freek> sparr: what machine are you on?
[21:37] <Pici> sparr: try using less -SN
[21:38] <bprompt> sparr:    are you just grabbing a page from the man pages and you want line numbers?
[21:38] <AlexPortable> k1l: not cutting. Only apply layerd
[21:38] <AlexPortable> Layers*
[21:39] <bprompt> sparr:     I use konqueror, and it has a man_kio    or kde i/o widget, that "htmlizes" the man pages... and you can grab the source and edit it away
[21:48] <Zephyr1139> I am using a removeable IDE drive bay. The bios recognizes the added HD but this causes the system to hangs at a blinking cursor before the grub boot loader on the primary drive loads. With out the removeable drive plugged in the system boots as normal. I used a USB to IDE adapter to mount the drive on my laptop so that I could format it as a FAT32 type 75GB single partition. Anybody have any ideas wh
[21:48] <Zephyr1139> at could be hanging the bootup?
[21:49] <bekks> Zephyr1139: Because your computer tries to boot from it, without success.
[21:51] <Zephyr1139> bekks, I checked the boot order... it's not set as the disk to boot from. It doesn't even have a boot flag enabled (by fdisk).
[21:51] <sparr> dm7freek: iterm2 on osx, connected to ubuntu 14.04 via ssh, with bash for the shell.
[21:51] <sparr> bprompt: I'm doing "man foo", and it's giving me line numbers because my $LESS has "-N" in it (I think)
[21:52] <sparr> bprompt: I'm just reading man pages, not trying to edit things
[21:52] <bekks> Zephyr1139: The boot flag is irrelevant since two decades :)
[21:53] <master_><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:53] <daftykins> master_: why are you pasting that here?
[21:53] <master_> im looking for a friend<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:53] <Lunario> i am looking for a way to play anything on ubuntu and listen to it wirelessly on earphones. do you know any good equipment for that?
[21:54] <k1l> master_: this is not the right channel
[21:54] <master_> what is the rght channel?
[21:54] <sparr> Pici: -S makes it not wrap oddly, but now the text that would have wrapped just disappears off the right side of the terminal
[21:54] <Pici> sparr: press your right arrow
[21:54] <coventry> I'd like to hibernate without typing my password every time.  pm-hibernate works.  I found the command "dbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=org.freedesktop.UPower /org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.UPower.Hibernate", but this seems to have no effect.  Any suggestions?
[21:54] <k1l> master_: please ask in #freenode
[21:54] <dieguezz> hi, how can i check if kernel was configured with genkernel?
[21:54] <master_> ok
[21:54] <coventry> BTW, That command was suggested at http://askubuntu.com/questions/356979/how-to-assign-a-shortcut-key-to-send-my-system-into-hibernation
[21:55] <emx> is there a manual on how to build up a ubuntu core rootfs?
[21:55] <k1l> emx: for arm?
[21:55] <emx> k1l, yes
[21:55] <k1l> emx: see the topic in #ubuntu-arm
[21:55] <sparr> Pici: I don't want to scroll right.  This one booted at the terminal briefly stated "no active parition" before displaying the GRUB boot menu.
[22:08] <emx> k1l, k, thanks
[22:10] <solsTiCe> ubuntu use dnsmasq by default ? network-manager depends on dnsmasq-base ?
[22:16] <lynne_21> lots of people on today
[22:16] <Joe_knock> Hello
[22:17] <Joe_knock> I'd like to change my IP address for my desktop machine to static, but my interfaces file has this: auto lo
[22:17] <Joe_knock> iface lo inet loopback
[22:17] <k1l> Joe_knock: you can do this with networkmanager
[22:17] <Joe_knock> do I just adjust the file as per these instructions: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/ ??
[22:18] <therue> anyone know the difference between weechat and weechat curses?
[22:20] <Joe_knock> k1l: I don't see any options for changing to "static" in network manager
[22:20] <trism> therue: weechat is just an empty package that depends on weechat-curses
[22:21] <lynne_21> rub your feet on the ground for static
[22:21] <k1l> Joe_knock: there is
[22:21] <Joe_knock> k1l: Is it "manual" ??
[22:21] <k1l> Joe_knock: yes
[22:22] <Joe_knock> k1l: What about the "network" and "broadcast" IP addresses? Not needed?
[22:24] <k1l> Joe_knock: come on.
[22:24] <k1l> Joe_knock: choose manual, then click on add and add the ip adresses
[22:24] <Joe_knock> k1l: Am I doing something wrong?
[22:25] <Joe_knock> aah okay. let me try that.
[22:25] <Joe_knock> thank you
[22:25] <Logern> I am IRC;ing from telnet
[22:25] <l0rdn1x> lol
[22:25] <JYD> Hey guys, since light-locker is horribly broken,, and there seems to be no intention on fixing it I need to get rid of it and revert to xscreensaver. Anything I need to be aware of before I remove light-locker and install xscreensaver?
[22:25] <JYD> https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=392777
[22:26] <Joe_knock> JYD: Remember to purge and not just remove
[22:26] <JYD> I'm affected by the preceding ^ bug
[22:26] <JYD> Joe_knock, Right on. Thanks.
[22:26] <JYD> Anyone else caught up in this light-locker BS?
[22:28] <JYD> In addition to that bug,, light-locker seems to cause the black screen of death on unlock.
[22:29] <JYD> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1259339
[22:29] <JYD> http://xubuntu.org/news/screen-locking-in-xubuntu-14-04/
[22:29] <JYD> Guys,,
[22:29] <JYD> If this is such a known and widespread issue,, why the hell is it still in the LTS?
[22:29] <JYD> No entiendo wey..
[22:29] <bubbasaures> !patience | JYD
[22:33] <JYD> Since light-locker is a failed attempt at aesthetics > stability, can we please revert to a functioning but ugly xscreensaver?
[22:33] <JYD> Complaint ^. Not trolling.
[22:34] <daftykins> JYD: nobody here is official enough to actually take your comments and do anything about it
[22:35] <JYD> daftykins, Understood.
[22:36] <JYD> OK, so here goes. Nuking light-locker. Thanks guys.
[22:36] <Zephyr1139> JYD, Is your power management set up to "hibernate" when your laptop lid is closed?
[22:37] <deejayv> lucy ita
[22:37] <JYD> Zephyr1139,
[22:37] <JYD> oops,, Zephyr1139 no.
[22:37] <JYD> Lock,
[22:37] <JYD> and it has no effect,, still hibernates.
[22:37] <JYD> I had to edit acpi settings to override it.
[22:38] <avid_fan> Zephyr1139: mine is set to the default "suspend"
[22:38] <JYD> I'm sorry.
[22:39] <JYD> blah,, logind settings.
[22:39] <Zephyr1139> JYD, go through all of the power management conditions and make sure 'hibernate' or 'suspend' are not a selected option.
[22:40] <JYD> Zephyr1139, Just confirmed, no hibernate settings.
[22:40] <JYD> All set to lock
[22:40] <JYD> And when I set it withing power manager it has no effect.
[22:40] <JYD> within, even.
[22:40] <Zephyr1139> avid_fan, I haven't had much success with either.  Perhaps I don't have enough swap space?
[22:43] <Zephyr1139> JYD, it's gotta be the friggin screen saver then (as you've probably discovered)
[22:44] <JYD> Yea, that's where the bread crumbs lead to.
[22:45] <Zephyr1139> JYD, is this a new SSver your trying out?
[22:45] <abhinav> hello
[22:45] <abhinav> i am trying to make my own applicationindicator
[22:45] <abhinav> but I am not finding good resources
[22:45] <JYD> No, default 14.01 light-locker package id broken.
[22:46] <JYD> 14.04
[22:46] <abhinav> can someone point me to some good resources for development of applicationindicator ?
[22:46] <JYD> And I just want to get rid of it,, and revert to xscreensaver.
[22:47] <avid_fan> JYD: I'm actually running the Cinnamon version of Linux Mint, with litle to no modifications from stock install. But in the past I will admit that too have had issues with power management, differing models of hardware, and differing screen savers.
[22:47] <avid_fan> JYD: My aged Dell Latitude and most versions of Linux Mint have been playing nicely for some time.
[22:48] <anonymous__> #ubuntu
[22:48] <anonymous_> test
[22:48] <anonymous__> Sup
[22:48] <anonymous_> SUUUUUP
[22:49] <bubbasaures> !topic
[22:49] <avid_fan> anonymous_: Whaaaaaaaasssuuuuuuuuupppppp?
[22:49] <anonymous_> WASSSSSUUUUUBBBBB
[22:49] <JYD> We should setup up a bug bounty.
[22:50] <k1l> anonymous_: anonymous__ avid_fan drop that.
[22:51] <anonymous__> This OS will be shut down due to criminal activity with these users. -Agent 007
[22:51] <JYD> I'll donate 1 BTC to address the light-locker bugs once and for all. Stank about it.
[22:51] <bazhang> JYD, you're on MINT?
[22:51] <avid_fan> k1l: Roger roger
[22:52] <JYD> In fact,, I'll give 1 BTC to see it dropped from LTS until it's fixed,, and then another 1 BTC to fix it.. $700+-.
[22:52] <JYD> I'm using xubuntu at present.
[22:53] <k1l> JYD: best is if you talk on the bugreports to the maintainers
[22:53] <bazhang> JYD, lets not talk about payment here, there are avenues for that (ie elsewhere)
[23:00] <JYD> I can't fix the issue. I don't have a dog in the fight. I would love however, that any LTS put stability over aesthetics. It's frustrating as a user, to see that my bug is listed as a "Known problem" on an LTS that was release 6 months ago.
[23:00] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone in here use nvidia-settings to adjust their fan speed? when I enable the coolbits option and then check the box for adjusting it, and move the slider down to some lower number, click apply it just jumps back up to 43% fan speed. what gives?
[23:00] <JYD> And:http://xubuntu.org/news/laptop-users-fix-available-for-the-black-screen-on-unlock-bug/
[23:00] <JYD> does not work.
[23:01] <JYD> k1l, bazhang. Thanks.
[23:03] <k1l> JYD: i can understand your frustration having a bug. but ranting and flaming in here doesnt help anyone and the motivation of people to help you gets samcked down. open a bug or contribute to an existing bug and help it get solved. talk to the maintainer. but ranting in here is just pure annoying.
[23:03] <tumlar> hi
[23:03] <JYD> k1l, Understood. Here's the thing. I did all that.
[23:03] <tumlar> that chat is ...
[23:04] <tumlar> hide ip
[23:04] <ki7mt> fftwf-wisdom -v -n -c -o ./fftw_wisdom.dat
[23:04] <JYD> k1l, BTW, I'm not flaming anyone.
[23:04] <JYD> :/
[23:04] <ki7mt> Whoops, sri, wrong window.
[23:05] <Zangune> JYD hi, I am with you, but I believe this is not something will happen anymore
[23:05] <Zangune> lol
[23:05] <JYD> Zangune, Forgive me?
[23:05] <Zangune> JYD hi, I am with you, but I believe this is not something will happen anymore
[23:06] <Zangune> JYD ;)
[23:06] <JYD> Zangune, Slainte.
[23:07] <Zangune> JYD I am sorry to keep you here if you have to go, that was just my idea, nothing more to say :)
[23:08] <ranger81> How do I change virbr0 ip address
[23:08] <ranger81> I have ubuntu host and a nested ubuntu KVM in it, I want these two to talk to each other
[23:08] <ranger81> First host - host ip eth0 - <IP_ADDRESS>, virbr0 - <IP_ADDRESS>, VM ip eth0- <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:08] <ranger81> Second host - host ip eth0 - <IP_ADDRESS>, virbro - <IP_ADDRESS>, VM ip eth0- <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:08] <ranger81> Now I need VM from host 2 to talk to VM running in host 1
[23:09] <eurythmia> How do I find out what my audio output device is? In settings->sound I can see that it's my HDMI/Display port, but I'm looking for hwX:X that I can use with jackd
[23:09] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone in here setup a noise gate in pulseaudio?
[23:10] <JYD> Yea, I learned not to fight argumentative IRCOPS back in the unet/efnet days. Only get's people upset and disrupts networks. It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. On which note.
[23:10] <therue> test
[23:10] <JYD> Vamos!
[23:11] <godbod>  Hello, why do we sometimes need to launch top in batch mode?
[23:11] <Zangune> ranger81 I guess ifconfig will help you
[23:13] <ranger81> Zangune: what should be the gateway for nested KVM vm?
[23:14] <tencendur> are there any "under the hood" ramifications if I manually change the hostname file to another hostname?
[23:15] <karab44> what is the latests ubuntu kernel and how can I update my 14.04 ?
[23:15] <tony_> how do I get back to having the side panels in Ubuntu 14.10
[23:15] <genii> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[23:15] <k1l> karab44: 14.04 got 3.13. when the next pointrelease there will be a new kernel. the backported from 14.10
[23:16] <eurythmia> ... figured it out ... it requires some trial and error though: get the results of "aplay -l | grep card" and then test various cards with "aplay -D plughw:X,Y /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Left.wav" where X is the number of the card, and Y is the number of the device
[23:16] <karab44> wow, great news k1l thank you. So what kernel is inside 14.10?
[23:16] <k1l> karab44: 3.16
[23:17] <karab44> and when can we expect that release?
[23:17] <Bashing-om> !host | tencendur
[23:17] <k1l> !releaseschedule
[23:17] <k1l> !14.04
[23:17] <Bashing-om> !hosts | tencendur
[23:17] <karab44> I have X99 motherboard and it's not fully supported by 3.13 and I've heard that later kernels solve present issues.
[23:17] <karab44> later = newer :D
[23:18] <k1l> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[23:18] <karab44> you know what I mean
[23:18] <noahki> I get lag after update to 14.10 whenever I move a window, this seems to go away when using GNOME Fallback. I have correct graphics drivers.
[23:18] <k1l> karab44: newer is not always better.
[23:18] <karab44> but this time it should
[23:18] <k1l> karab44: so on february the 5th
[23:19] <godbod>  hello all, why top needs to be launched in batch modH
[23:19] <Zangune> ranger81 if I read well the two machines needs the same gateway: <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:19] <karab44> k1l: ok I see that release schedule but I can't really fully understand when I can expect that 3.16 kernel
[23:20] <karab44> is it 5th feb?
[23:20] <karab44> it's not there
[23:20] <k1l> karab44: with the .2 release
[23:20] <Bashing-om> tencendur: OK, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/change-hostname-ubuntu1404/ . IF you change '/etc/hosts' make sure you make the same change in '/etc/hostname' .
[23:20] <ranger81> Zangune: yes
[23:20] <k1l> karab44: its this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[23:21] <nopf> godbod: do we?
[23:22] <karab44> omg on feb 16?
[23:22] <karab44> Tell me it's on my birthday
[23:22] <tencendur> Bashing-om: thx
[23:22] <ShalokShalom> hi there, can anyone link me the source of the "Check disc for defects" code, please ? (GFXBoot)
[23:23] <Bashing-om> tencendur: :) little thing.
[23:23] <karab44> k1l: very nice overview by the way. Thank you
[23:23] <bubbasaures> ShalokShalom, fsck?
[23:24] <bubbasaures> !fsck
[23:25] <dinkel>  /msg NickServ identify kaas
[23:25] <k1l> karab44: if you really need a new kernel you can try the mainline kernel. but that is not supported from your side here
[23:25] <k1l> !mainline | karab44
[23:25] <ubuntuaddicted> when I open audacity it's not showing my webcam mic as a choice. i see this in the terminal. how can I fix? ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1022:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[23:25] <ShalokShalom> bubbasaures: thanks a lot :)
[23:25] <k1l> *from our side
[23:26] <Zangune> ranger81 and, if I read well again, port forwarding is what you need
[23:26] <catalogue> hey all, i'm trying to uninstall the chromium app launcher
[23:26] <catalogue> no freaking clue how it ended up on my computer and no clue why i can't easily find a way to delete it
[23:26] <bekks> catalogue: So you want to uninstall chromium?
[23:27] <catalogue> bekks, no, just the app launcher that seems to be integrated into my os
[23:27] <bekks> Which app launcher?
[23:27] <karab44> k1l: is it risky?
[23:28] <ranger81> Zangune: where do I configure port forwarding and how
[23:28] <k1l> karab44: it will not burn you pc to ashes. but things can not work that used to work on the ubuntu 3.13.
[23:28] <catalogue> bekks: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2044781/the-new-chrome-app-launcher-googles-backdoor-into-the-offline-world.html
[23:29] <k1l> catalogue: you are on ubuntu?
[23:29] <catalogue> k1l, yes
[23:29] <k1l> catalogue: which exactly?
[23:29] <catalogue> 12.04
[23:29] <bekks> catalogue: there is no chrome (not chromium) app launcher on non-Windows, as the article states.
[23:30] <k1l> catalogue: did you install that manually? add a 3rd party repo? install it by .deb package?
[23:30] <catalogue> k1l, randomly appeared after i installed a chrom extension
[23:30] <catalogue> bekks, what?
[23:31] <Zangune> ranger81 this should help http://serverfault.com/questions/555366 make suitable to your needs
[23:31] <bekks> catalogue: http://www.omgchrome.com/enable-chrome-app-launcher-linux/ enabling/disabling it, perfectly described.
[23:32] <ranger81> Zangune: thanks. I will take a look.
[23:32] <Zangune> ranger81 you are welcome
[23:32] <catalogue> bekks, ?? you mean the 2 sentence afterthought at the bottom of the page, which doesn't work?
[23:32] <k1l> catalogue: run chrome://flags/#enable-app-list in chrome and set it to disable
[23:33] <Core__> Hello, I have created an encrypted drive, how may I automate the mounting of this?
[23:33] <k1l> catalogue: i dont think it "just came there". so i would suggest you just revert the settings you did then
[23:33] <catalogue> k1l, i went to chrome://flags and found the setting, but doesn't seem to be enabled. don't want to click the enable button
[23:33] <ranger81> Zangune: right now, VM in one host is able to reach another host. I just need to find out how to forward packets from destination host to destination VM
[23:33] <ranger81> Zangune: Do you think I should just enable iptables forwarding?
[23:33] <LinuxDummy> Just curious. Is Ubuntu the same as Debian that SuperUser need to be part of a Group Policy in order to have Super User Status?
[23:34] <catalogue> k1l, definitely did randomly appear, after i installed an extension called postman
[23:34] <Zangune> ranger81 yes, to me this is the key
[23:34] <catalogue> er, randomly = against my intent
[23:34] <k1l> catalogue: are you talking about webapps possibly? you can disable them in unity-tweak-tool
[23:35] <bubbasaures> LinuxDummy, No it already is accessible by sudo
[23:35] <k1l> LinuxDummy: the root account is not enabled on ubuntu. so you use sudo to get programs the root permissions
[23:35] <catalogue> k1l, not sure what it is. it's listed as an applicaiton
[23:35] <k1l> !sudo | LinuxDummy
[23:36] <k1l> catalogue: try disabling webapps in unity-tweak-tool
[23:36] <catalogue> k1l, i need to download another program now?
[23:36] <LinuxDummy> I have use sudo and read and was told that my nickname must be part of a group in order for the apt-get argument work. Otherwise, no group no apt-get.
[23:37] <bubbasaures> LinuxDummy, If you make a user you have to put them in, the install user has sudo
[23:37] <LinuxDummy> Even with the password in root the error message states you don't have permission to ussure that command.
[23:38] <LinuxDummy> The Debian folks tell me that you must be part of a GROUP in order to have Super User Operator Status.
[23:39]  * ZerOlegend is away: grabbing dinner
[23:39] <bubbasaures> LinuxDummy, This is not debian, you are not making any sense.
[23:39] <k1l> LinuxDummy: yes sudo group
[23:40] <k1l> LinuxDummy: but we cant help you on debian in here. debian handles that differently
[23:40] <User123xy2> Hi I have a question about Webhosting on ubuntu.
[23:40] <User123xy2> Can somebody help me please?
[23:40] <catalogue> k1l, were you saying that i need to download that new program to get rid of it?
[23:40] <LinuxDummy> I am not asking for a Debian question. I was just in passing asking the strategy of the Linux permissions and group policy.
[23:40] <k1l> catalogue: i dont know what you actually have running there.
[23:41] <User123xy2> Me?
[23:41] <k1l> catalogue: i am just guessing what that thing could be and try to get a solution for removing it.
[23:41] <Zangune> User123xy2 please just ask :)
[23:42] <k1l> catalogue: the more exact detailed you describe what you did and what it is the better people can help you. "i did nothing and suddenly there was that app" is hard to support
[23:42] <LinuxDummy> K11 Sudo Group is what the references were referring to.
[23:42] <w00tburger> so I gad come accross an old ubuntu install and apparently I am not using httpd. is their an easy trick to see what the heck I am running?
[23:42] <User123xy2> Zangue thanks, I have a problem that ftp host and apache2 and mssql php5 are all set up. I have also upload the files to the /var/www/   directory but they are just not displaying as you can see <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:42] <k1l> LinuxDummy: you are way to vague.
[23:42] <catalogue> k1l, i downloaded an extenion called 'postman' and it appeared. literally. that's why i'm so upset about it
[23:43] <k1l> LinuxDummy: tell me your actual ubuntu issue. then we can try to solve that
[23:43] <LinuxDummy> K11 I have always used sudo and was allowed into the root directory, however, even root has rules as well.
[23:43] <k1l> catalogue: so maybe its a webapp? are you running unity?
[23:43] <l0rdn1x> lol
[23:44] <k1l> LinuxDummy: what is your actual issue?
[23:44] <catalogue> k1l, yeah it might be a web app. yes i believe i have unity
[23:44] <LinuxDummy> K11, when into root I am restricted in doing sudo apt-get    sorry phone
[23:45] <k1l> LinuxDummy: dont be root
[23:46] <catalogue> k1l: check out the first comment here: http://lifehacker.com/googles-chrome-app-launcher-runs-chrome-apps-from-the-838022840
[23:46] <k1l> catalogue: did you try to remove postman form chrome?
[23:46] <catalogue> k1l, yes.
[23:46] <User123xy2> :/
[23:47] <macifikation> any one willing to help?
[23:47] <bubbasaures> !ask | macifikation
[23:47] <macifikation> ok sorry
[23:48] <nmvictor> whats the latest version? left when it was 12.0
[23:48] <User123xy2> I have a problem that ftp host and apache2 and mssql php5 are all set up. I have also upload the files to the /var/www/   directory but they are just not displaying as you can see <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:48] <bekks> nmvictor: LAtest version of what?
[23:48] <nmvictor> bekks: ubuntu
[23:49] <bekks> nmvictor: 14.10, and 14.04 for LTS.
[23:49] <nmvictor> wow, gotta grab that and see whats new.
[23:49] <nmvictor> bekks:thanks
[23:49] <macifikation> ok i have a old Dell Dimension 4500 that i would like to get going for my son. I had ubuntu on this thing years ago but dont remember what release it was. I was wondering if anybody could help out and let me know what release would work for it?
[23:50] <catalogue> k1l, looks like this is by design and google has no intent of disabling it: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=298849
[23:50] <catalogue> k1l, thank you for the help though.
[23:51] <k1l> catalogue: see if something is in "~/.local/share/applications"
[23:52] <godbod>  Hello all, does top command uses tty ?
[23:52] <daftykins> macifikation: it would be handy to know the full hardware spec of that system, given Dell do many ranges under the same number
[23:52] <catalogue> k1l, yep, 5 files. should i clear them out?
[23:52] <systemddd> macifikation:  consider lubuntu for something that old...spec-wise.
[23:53] <macifikation> give me a few and i can get it brb
[23:53] <k1l> catalogue: try renaming for the start
[23:53] <User123xy2> Please, can somebody help me..?
[23:53] <systemddd> I have a p4 system with 1.5GB of ram and lubuntu 14.04 on it.  It doesn't fly, but it is usable.
[23:54] <daftykins> User123xy2: 14.04 has the docroot under /var/www/html/
[23:55] <User123xy2> So this means I have to create the html folder since I have deleted it and then re-assign the functions of the ftp account and then it should work?
[23:56] <User123xy2> and of course upload the data to /www/html