[01:12] (intelikey/#kubuntu) ok.    so is that needed when specifying the addy on the ifconfig command to bring up an interface or will it default to something reasonable for a lan  ?
[01:12] (bordy/#kubuntu) Any ideas as to why my bouncy cursor would freeze when I start up, and then my Home Folder stalls out on me making it unreachable?
[01:12] <Biovore> ifconfig <interface> <ipaddress> netmask <netmask>
[01:12] <strungstephen> hello just started using kubuntu wonder how this works
[01:12] <jerware> i have libnet1 installed, yet the make fails when i attempt to install Perls interface to libnet
[01:12] <NickPresta> strungstephen, how what works?
[01:12] <Biovore> strungstephen: ban spanking new to linux/unix ?
[01:13] <strungstephen> having problem logging on as root anyone help
[01:13] <Biovore> there is no root
[01:13] <savetheWorld> Biovore: And I'm in!
[01:13] <Biovore> yay!!!
[01:14] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !sudo
[01:14] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:14] <NickPresta> strungstephen, you don't login as root for security reasons and because the account doesn't exist by default
[01:14] <savetheWorld> Biovore: thank you for the help. Its appreciated.
[01:14] <Biovore> np
[01:14] <intelikey> Biovore ok.    i think i understand all that.   so for a two box lan    ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>      will that work?
[01:14] <savetheWorld> (or the account exists but has no password set on it so you cant login)
[01:14] <strungstephen> some things that i want to do is says i must be in administratormode
[01:14] <Biovore> might want <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:14] <cdnpenguin> actually root does exist by default
[01:14] <Biovore> need space for a broadcast
[01:14] <NickPresta> !sudo | strungstephen
[01:14] <ubotu> strungstephen: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:14] <Biovore> and a default gw
[01:14] <intelikey> oh ok.
[01:15] <savetheWorld> sudo su -   ^-^
[01:15] <intelikey> savetheWorld or sudo -i
[01:15] <savetheWorld> Biovore: route picked it up immediately
[01:15] <Biovore> route -n to see your routing table
[01:15] <cdnpenguin> ip route
[01:16] <intelikey> Biovore will it hurt anything to make it .16 say  or will that just add fluff ?
[01:16] <Biovore> intelikey: if your on an isolated lan.. who cares..  <IP_ADDRESS>/8  have fun..
[01:17] <strungstephen> thanks for the link.  since im new to linux could you tell me a good source for learning to use the command line
[01:18] <intelikey> heh   that would be like having the whole internet in the lan but nothing actually there   ???     tons of addresses  to one place ?     or am i talking through my hat again?
[01:18] <NickPresta> strungstephen, linuxcommand.org
[01:19] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> strungstephen: If you want a good podcast for linux beginners, check out Linux Reality. http://www.linuxreality.com/
[01:19] <strungstephen> i noticed when i installed dapper drake it told me security updates were not installed what does this mean
[01:19] <Biovore> intelikey: basicly.. <IP_ADDRESS>/8 <IP_ADDRESS>/16 <IP_ADDRESS>/16 are non routable networks you can use as lan network IP's
[01:20] <Biovore> everyone seems to pick the 192.168 address but you could use 172.16.xx.xx or 10.xx.xx.xx address as well
[01:21] <intelikey> right i knew the  10 172 192 ranges are reserved  but that's about the end of what i knew.
[01:21] <Biovore> Infact, alot of ISP's uses the <IP_ADDRESS> ip's for there internet network.. (like comcast cable users)
[01:21] <Biovore> You will also notice that there are no <IP_ADDRESS>/8 IP address on the net..
[01:22] <Minataku> 192.168.0.XXX and 192.168.1.XXX are safe, and personally I don't think there are any 192.168.XXX.XXX out there at all
[01:22] <intelikey> Minataku there can't be,  they are reserved
[01:22] <cdnpenguin> you can use anything in the <IP_ADDRESS>/16
[01:22] <Biovore> yup
[01:22] <cdnpenguin> behind a NAT you can use them
[01:22] <Minataku> Ah, that /16 at the end I didn't quite understand
[01:23] <Biovore> yeah.. <IP_ADDRESS> are non-routables.. meaning internet routers will not route them..
[01:23] <cdnpenguin> <IP_ADDRESS> - <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:23] <Biovore> also applies to 10.xxx.xxx.xxx and 172.16.xxx.xxx
[01:23] <cdnpenguin> another way of expressing a netmask of <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:24] <cdnpenguin> Sorry, that is part of my day job
[01:24] <Minataku> I knew it was that, but I've never known what the numbers applied to
[01:24] <Minataku> cdnpenguin: Oh, I don't mind at all
[01:24] <cdnpenguin> a good explanation is the tcpip guide
[01:24] <Minataku> I wouldn't have expressed interest if I didn't care :3
[01:25] <intelikey> cdnpenguin link ?
[01:25] <cdnpenguin> http://www.tcpipguide.com/free/t_IPClasslessAddressingClasslessInterDomainRoutingCI.htm
[01:25] <intelikey> ty
[01:25] <cdnpenguin> was already working on it :)
[01:25] <cdnpenguin> np
[01:26] <Biovore> or look up RFC1918
[01:26] <cdnpenguin> the guide is much nicer read
[01:26] <cdnpenguin> my 65 year old dad can read it
[01:26] <Biovore> rgr
[01:27] <Minataku> cdnpenguin: Yes, but can he understand it?
[01:27] <cdnpenguin> I bought the book, and yes he can
[01:27] <Minataku> I can read a book on theoretical physics, doesn't mean I'll get it ;3
[01:27] <Minataku> XD
[01:27] <Minataku> Sorry, just being pedantic :3
[01:27] <intelikey> they wont allow dl
[01:27] <cdnpenguin> I got a free copy from my LUG to review.  Like it so much I bought the PDF+another copy for the office
[01:28] <cdnpenguin> For such a dry topic the book he wrote (and the web site) is easy to read with out sacrificing technical accuracy
[01:29] <BluesKaj> cdnpenguin, I'm almost 64 will it put me to sleep if I read it in bed ? :)
[01:29] <cdnpenguin> It depends if you are interested or not :)
[01:29] <intelikey> the website is unreadable in links   lines are too long  text is cut off
[01:29] <Biovore> At 64, your wife next you puts you to sleep :-P
[01:29] <BluesKaj> at 64 wife has her own bedroom :)
[01:30] <cdnpenguin> the one complaint is that the site is not CLI friendly
[01:30] <intelikey> cdnpenguin yep
[01:30] <cdnpenguin> I find the GUI navigation awkward, but it is a goldmine of info
[01:30] <cdnpenguin> assuming of course that you are interested in this stuff
[01:31] <Biovore> www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1918.html  <-- Address Allocation for PRivate Internets
[01:31] <cdnpenguin> I personally find http://lartc.org an interesting read... but I am aware that I am not exactly in the middle of the bell curve on this one
[01:34] <intelikey> Biovore cli friendly too  :)
[01:34] <Biovore> text always is..
[01:35] <savetheWorld> BluesKaj: at 64, 50% of wives have their own house.. :-)
[01:35] <cdnpenguin> heh heh
[01:36] <intelikey> heh it's all text   only the format changes
[01:36] <cdnpenguin> Not if you are married to a divorce lawyer
[01:36] <BluesKaj> yeah , she has 50% :)
[01:36] <intelikey> two story home ?   you have your story and she has hers
[01:37] <intelikey> that's my story and i'm unnimus about it.
[01:37] <savetheWorld> If she's a lawyer shee gets 80% and then bills you her fees for the remain 25%   (yes it adds up to 105%)
[01:37] <BluesKaj> nope , 2 level backsplit ...but I do have my own window :)
[01:38] <intelikey> yeah divorce is a bad thing.   shouldn't be any such thing.
[01:38] <BluesKaj> my daughter divorced a lawyer
[01:39] <cdnpenguin> unfortunate
[01:39] <james> can anyone help me manually mount a sata drive
[01:39] <intelikey> well ok,   maybe there shouldn't be any such thing unless someone maries a lawyer
[01:39] <james> i have been reading the faq but get errors at gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:40] <james> gedit is for ubuntu
[01:40] <cdnpenguin> james do you at least know the device name
[01:40] <intelikey> james     sudo mount </dev/something> </mount/point> <-o args.if,needed>
[01:40] <Biovore> james: kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[01:40] <cdnpenguin> ie. /dev/sdc
[01:41] <intelikey> example; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/windows/ -o umask=000
[01:42] <cdnpenguin> sudo aptitude install ntfs-3g
[01:43] <cdnpenguin> then you can have write access to ntfs
[01:44] <cdnpenguin> I would modify intelikey's command slightly: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/windows/ -o umask=000,ro
[01:44] <genii> Back briefly from other work. Did x89x make any progress/get any help compiling the Unichrome driver? Just curious mainly ...
[01:46] <james> ok now what would i change in that command if the file system were ext3?   sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1/ -o umask=000
[01:46] <Biovore> add a -t ext3
[01:46] <intelikey> genii idk  i talked with him quite a while yesterday but don't know if it was before or after that issue   (wasn't about it)
[01:46] <genii> waylandbill: You alive?
[01:47] <intelikey> james you drop from - onward
[01:47] <genii> intelikey Ah OK. Earlier today was trying to help him with an S3 Unichrome driver install/compile. Tedious
[01:47] <intelikey> james   sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1/
[01:48] <intelikey> genii ah.   havent seen him today.
[01:48] <genii> thanks
[01:50] <intelikey> james the reson,   umask= is a fs specific argument which only applies to M$ file systems (because they don't have permissions bits  you have too mask them)
[01:50] <intelikey> my a key is not accepting every stroke
[01:50] <BluesKaj> waylandbill, was here earlier
[01:50] <intelikey> aa << pressed 5 times
[01:50] <BluesKaj> an hr or so ago
[01:50] <genii> BluesKaj: Hi :) Still here I see
[01:51] <BluesKaj> in and out , genii
[01:51] <james> ontelikey it took the command sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1/
[01:51] <james> is there anything else that needs to be done ?
[01:51] <james> from here for me to access the data on the drive?
[01:51] <genii> BluesKaj: Yeah me too. Just curious if x89x got some help compiling that driver. Long and convoluted etc
[01:51] <BluesKaj> been busy around the yard but check in every once in a while :)
[01:52] <intelikey> james that was a one time mount.  if you want it permanant you put an entry in the fstab
[01:52] <intelikey> /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1/ auto defaults 0 0
[01:52] <intelikey> james that line  ^
[01:52] <BluesKaj> musta worked genii , haven't seen him since
[01:53] <james> many many thanks intelikey i will try now
[01:53] <intelikey> welcome
[01:54] <genii> BluesKaj: Well, in 12 hours I'll be back for extended times... I told him if he got no help tonight be here after then and I'd see what I could do
[01:54] <james> intelikey
[01:54] <james> dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1/ auto defaults 0 0
[01:54] <james> bash: /dev/sdb1: Permission denie
[01:54] <intelikey> james that line belongs in the /etc/fstab file  not executed from the console
[01:55] <intelikey> james kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[01:55] <intelikey> execute that ^   and copy/paste the line into it
[01:56] <james> just at the bottom?
[01:56] <intelikey> yep
[01:56] <intelikey> save and exit, you're done
[01:57] <james> ok now that all that is done, how the heck do i get to the drive?
[01:57] <genii> AFK, smoke break :)
[01:57] <james> i go to /media and it is empty
[01:58] <intelikey> james file manager    navigate to    /media/sdb1
[01:58] <james> ya that is empty
[01:58] <intelikey> james and it's not supposed to be ?
[01:59] <james> i have data on the drive
[01:59] <intelikey> note file:///media/sdb1   is not the same as  media://sdb1
[01:59] <james> 50 gb worth
[02:00] <james> intelikey the owner is root
[02:01] <intelikey> james so give your self permission     sudo chown `whoami` -R /media/sdb1
[02:01] <Minataku> genii! :D
[02:02] <intelikey> run that and you'll own it
[02:02] <Huas> sup niggaz, i did a sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and it messed up all my menues so i did a sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop and tha shitz is still messed up--- what gives?
[02:02] <james> it worked perfectly
[02:02] <james> and now shows as a drive and not a folder
[02:02] <intelikey> Huas removing the meta package changes nothing
[02:03] <Huas> intelikey yeah it seemed a little to easy
[02:03] <Huas> is  kde still on ma disk but messed up now?
[02:03] <Huas> :(
[02:03] <genii> Back
[02:04] <genii> Minataku: Hi
[02:04] <intelikey> still there, messed up would depend on many things, but your removing the meta package is not one of them
[02:04] <Minataku> :D
[02:04] <intelikey> @ Huas ^
[02:04] <Huas> can i add the meta package again?
[02:04] <Huas> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop <- do that again?
[02:04] <james> thanks again intelikey
[02:05] <intelikey> you can but why would you.  all it's for is to "depend on other packages"  which are already there so adding the meta package will do nothing, as removing it does nothing
[02:06] <Huas> intelikey so everything is the same?
[02:06] <Huas> ok niggaz that calms me down a bit:)
[02:07] <NickPresta> Huas, could you please stop using that word. It's annoying and I'm sure it is offensive to at least one person in this channel.
[02:07] <Huas> nickpresta oh foe shoe.... im black myself so no offence bro
[02:10] <Huas> hello?
[02:13] <intelikey> that's it.   i'm going to build a cross over cable and connect these two boxen now.     i'll be back, probably asking for help to get a LAN setup, later
[02:24] <ounsa> hello
[02:25] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !hi | ounsa
[02:25] <ubotu> ounsa: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:27] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ... became quiet all of a sudden...
[02:27] <Schuenemann> a plane just crashed here
[02:28] <Biovore> where is here?
[02:28] <Schuenemann> brazil
[02:30] <roch> hola
[02:30] <Schuenemann> !hola | roch
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hola - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <roch> hablas espaol !!!
[02:31] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !es
[02:31] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:31] <Schuenemann> !es | roch
[02:31] <ubotu> roch: please see above
[02:31] <roch> si pero esta en ingles :(
[02:32] <Schuenemann> ?
[02:32] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ?
[02:32] <Schuenemann>  /join #kubuntu-es
[02:32] <roch> ok
[02:37] <kgx> can someone tell me how can i prevent the  "WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!" error when using ssh?
[02:37] <kgx> i need this for one host only, the rest should still warn me
[02:39] <sjck> kgx I thought it warn only first time?
[02:40] <kgx> nah it doesnt even let me connect, i need to remove the key from my known_hosts file before i can connect
[02:41] <stdin> kgx: see message like "offending host is on line # of ~/.ssh/known_hosts" ?
[02:42] <kgx> stdin: yeah i know :) i've removed that line and then it works. but i was wondering if its possible to do it without manually removing that line?
[02:43] <stdin> kgx: not really, it's a security feature
[02:43] <kgx> ok, thanks
[02:44] <stdin> kgx: do you own the host?
[02:44] <kgx> yeah
[02:45] <stdin> kgx: is it dual-booting 2 linux distros then?
[02:45] <kgx> its my home computer. it happens when i switch between windows and liux.
[02:45] <stdin> ahh
[02:45] <stdin> ssh server on windows?
[02:45] <kgx> yep
[02:45] <kgx> openssh on cygwin
[02:46] <stdin> kgx: you could just copy the cygwin directory "/etc/ssh" to the linux one (or vise-versa), then they'd have the same ID
[02:47] <kgx> stdin: thanks...didn't think it'd work. cheers :) you're always the one to answer questions in this channel!
[02:47] <stdin> heh, seems that way :)
[02:48] <CaBlGuY> !win32
[02:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <CaBlGuY> !codecs
[02:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:48] <stdin> !w32codecs
[02:48] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[02:48] <stdin> CaBlGuY ^
[02:48] <CaBlGuY> word..  ;)
[02:48] <word> curses!
[02:48] <CaBlGuY> lol
[02:51] <blackjeebus> Whenever I insert this Sprint Aircard [Merlin S620]  into the PCMCIA slot on this laptop [Latitude D520] , the system locks and I have to do a hard reboot....Anyone ever have problems with any kind of PCMCIA card?
[02:57] <Dragnslcr> 100 pages of a C++ book? How can anyone not fall asleep after that
[03:07] <blackjeebus> No one having PCMCIA troubles eh?
[03:11] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Very quiet tonight. It's unusual.
[03:11] <clouder> i have 232gb hard drive.  How smart is it to make my home directory 200gb and leave 32gb to everything else?
[03:12] <Schuenemann> as smart as locking yourself on the fridge to check if the light really turns off when the door closes
[03:12] <roch> hola
[03:13] <clouder> what would you recommend?
[03:13] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> clouder: I use a 10 GB partition for system stuff and 48 GB for my home directory, so...
[03:13] <roch> suport in spanish?
[03:13] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !es
[03:13] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:13] <Schuenemann> !es | roch
[03:13] <ubotu> roch: please see above
[03:13] <Schuenemann> you did it again
[03:13] <roch> ok perdon, es q reinicie
[03:14] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> And sadly enough, I'm making my bed at the same time.
[03:18] <jhutchins> clouder: Wherever you partition your space, you're going to need it on the other partition.  I recommend that you make one partition and do backups.
[03:19] <jhutchins> (well, one for / and one for swap)
[03:20] <jhutchins> clouder: If you do as you suggested, you'll most likely discover some app that wants to put a bunch of stuff in /usr/share, or maybe buffer large downloads in /var/cache.
[03:20] <jhutchins> clouder: Or you'll do something that writes a flood to the log files.
[03:21] <jhutchins> If you have a current backup of /home, you don't need it on a seprate partition, just install and restore.
[03:21] <jhutchins> Anyway, dat's my advice.
[03:24] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> jhutchins: That's probably what I'll do once Gutsy comes out
[03:30] <agracey> has anybody had problems with the SATA dvd burners
[03:30] <agracey> when I install mine my computer will not POST
[03:30] <litwell> hello
[03:31] <agracey> hi
[03:31] <litwell> I want to clear everything on /tmp on shutdown, but it's an ext3 fs. so I have this problem
[03:32] <litwell> I can't (shouldn't :) delete lost+found
[03:33] <litwell> how do I redirect this command "ls -a /tmp | sed -e '/lost+found/d'" to "rm" so I can put it on /etc/init.d/syslogd ?
[03:36] <padrote> Theresa, are you a girl?
[03:36] <Bearcat> nope, this is Bearcat. I'm working on Thersa's computer trying to fix stuff
[03:37] <Bearcat> Bearcat == male (for what that matters)
[03:37] <Minataku> It matters a lot
[03:37] <Minataku> Now you'll get 90% less help
[03:38] <Minataku> XD
[03:38] <Bearcat> my first frustration of the night is that i can't get adept to run. It claims that something else is using it's resources and all the ps-ing and grepping doesn't show me what it is
[03:38] <Bearcat> O.o
[03:38] <Bearcat> better?
[03:38] <Minataku> lol
[03:38] <Minataku> !adeptfix
[03:38] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:38] <Bearcat> whooo
[03:39] <padrote> lol Minataku
[03:40] <Bearcat> much better!
[03:40] <Bearcat> thank you Minataku
[03:40] <Minataku> np
[03:40] <Bearcat> now i can get back to the problem i've been working on for weeks now
[03:41] <Minataku> http://nekobooru.net/post/view/3111 << Ubuntu wallpaper :3
[03:43] <clouder> So after what jhutchins said I'm thinking I should make a large fat32 partition (in case I need access to it from windows) put all my porn and music on there.  Then create an average size home partition that I can backup easily, and then drop ~10-15gb on system.  Does that sound like a decent plan?
[03:43] <Minataku> Someone linked me to that particular post
[03:43] <Bearcat> ugh...downloading 58 mgs of updates on my friends dial-up is no fun!!
[03:43] <Minataku> Be careful, other parts of the site are decidedly NSFW
[03:47] <Minataku> I just got the link, don't look at me for the rest of the site's content
[03:47] <Minataku> lol
[03:47] <Minataku> It's all anime pics, though
[03:49] <Bearcat> ok. i
[03:50] <Bearcat> i'm at a bit of a loss here. I've got the latest kubunu install on this thing. When i load up the live disk i can scan on thier scanner with kooka. When i use thier machine sans live disk. i can't Kooka can't find the scanner. This has to be a configuration issue.  I have deleted all of the kooka settings so they could be re-gened and nothing has worked.
[03:50] <Bearcat> Any ideas? Could it actually be a sane problem?
[03:53] <mneptok> clouder: i'd do it differently
[03:55] <intelikey> don't ya need some sort of a 'dhcp' program to use dhcp addressing ?    or am i all wet ?
[03:55] <mneptok> intelikey: DHCP client is built-in and ready
[03:55] <intelikey> mneptok built into what ?
[03:56] <mneptok> *ubuntu
[03:56] <intelikey> then i probably need to install it
[03:56] <mneptok> you don't need to install anything to get a DHCP address.
[03:56] <mneptok> lease. blah.
[03:57] <mneptok> sudo dhclient $interface
[03:57] <mneptok> sudo dhclient eth0
[03:57] <mneptok> or whatever
[03:57] <intelikey> like i said i'll hve to install it
[03:57] <mneptok> dhclient is already installed
[03:57] <intelikey> tty1 [root@~]  dhclient
[03:57] <intelikey> -root: dhclient: command not found
[03:57] <intelikey> no it's not
[03:57] <intelikey> care to retract ?
[03:58] <mneptok> [mneptok@ra]  mneptok :: which dhclient
[03:58] <mneptok> /sbin/dhclient
[03:58] <raylu> it is with most distros of ubuntu...
[03:58] <mneptok> not really
[03:58] <raylu> how do i set up a simple network boot?
[03:58] <raylu> i dont want a thin-client that works with 8 different operating systems; i just want a remote boot
[03:58] <intelikey> tty1 [root@~]  which dhclient
[03:58] <intelikey> tty1 [root@~]
[03:58] <mneptok> care to put /sbin in root's path? or use sudo?
[03:58] <intelikey> it's there
[03:58] <intelikey> tty1 [root@~]  echo $PATH
[03:58] <intelikey> ./:/opt/firefox/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbintty1 [root@~]
[03:59] <mneptok> try "locate dhclient"
[03:59] <clouder> mneptok: what would you do briefly?  I'm just trying to get a few ideas/scenarios before I start slicing up my drives
[03:59] <intelikey> locate is not installed either
[03:59] <mneptok> uname -a ?
[03:59] <intelikey> tty1 [root@~]  uname -a
[03:59] <intelikey> Linux zeos486 2.4.27-2-k6 #1 Wed Dec 21 11:27:37 UTC 2005 i586 GNU/Linux
[04:00] <intelikey> are we through playing now ?
[04:00] <intelikey> i'll go install dhclient
[04:00] <mneptok> what version of Ubuntu is *that*?
[04:00] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> mneptok: I'm starting to wonder...
[04:00] <intelikey> dapper
[04:01] <raylu> o.0
[04:01] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> ... wow...
[04:01] <intelikey> installing  dhcp3-server and client
[04:01] <mneptok> [mneptok@hypnotoad]  mneptok :: uname -a
[04:01] <mneptok> Linux hypnotoad 2.6.15-28-amd64-k8 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Mar 13 20:57:54 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:01] <mneptok> [mneptok@hypnotoad]  mneptok :: which dhclient
[04:01] <mneptok> that's Dapper
[04:01] <mneptok> /sbin/dhclient
[04:02] <chaotic> man gnome recently sucks  and so does debian
[04:02] <chaotic> i  tried to have debian and kubuntu
[04:02] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Linux feralnet 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux  < That's Feisty
[04:02] <chaotic> i   just removed debian
[04:03] <intelikey> mneptok please act your age.    and thanks for answering my question,  it's dhcp-client  that i was asking about
[04:03] <chaotic> i  dont kno  y ppl like gnome
[04:03] <chaotic> its annoying having two  bars
[04:03] <mneptok> intelikey: please, stop the personal comments
[04:04] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> chaotic: It can be customized to only have one, but... meh... KDE\Fluxbox\WindowMaker for me.
[04:04] <mneptok> intelikey: did you configure DHCP networking during install? and is this desktop or server?
[04:05] <intelikey> no
[04:05] <Bearcat> i'm trying to uninstall sane and it's associated programs completly so i can reinstall in case this is a config problem.  However, adept tells me i can't do so as it would break things.  Any ideas on what i can do? Pretend i am a newbie (i am to debian/kubuntu). I just want to get this scanner working and it works on the live disk so i am at a loss.
[04:05] <mneptok> did you use static networking or no network at all?
[04:05] <tupa> does sources.list has all the packages available or I have to add some extra lines?
[04:05] <raylu> Bearcat, pastebin what apt says?
[04:06] <tupa> in debian you have to add contrib and non-free
[04:06] <tupa> is it the same un ubuntu?
[04:06] <raylu> tupa, yes; i think restricted and backports
[04:06] <intelikey> no
[04:06] <Bearcat> raylu: which paste bin?
[04:06] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Minataku: For your wallpaper, I now give you one that I've found > http://flickr.com/photos/renanbirck/386721909/
[04:06] <raylu> !pastebin
[04:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:07] <raylu> or http://pastecode.org
[04:07] <raylu> because it's urls are nicer ^^
[04:07] <tupa> raylu, what are restricted packages? I'm taking a guess and say backports are previous releases packages
[04:07] <Minataku> WhtWolfTeraDyne: Oooh, nice
[04:07] <raylu> restricted are the ones with legal strings
[04:07] <raylu> but intelikey might be saying "no" at me
[04:07] <tupa> mmm, it would be like non-free in debian
[04:08] <Bearcat> raylu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30292/
[04:09] <raylu> non-free just means...non-free
[04:09] <raylu> free things can have legal issues
[04:09] <raylu> Bearcat, oh...i thought it mentioned specific pacakges
[04:09] <Bearcat> nope
[04:09] <raylu> *packages; if it's just one line, you can paste it in here
[04:09] <Bearcat> i wish
[04:09] <raylu> you might want to try: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:10] <Bearcat> O.o
[04:11] <raylu> lol; what'd it do?
[04:11] <Bearcat> raylu: it says "now loading Vista"
[04:11] <raylu> ...
[04:11] <raylu> what?
[04:11] <Bearcat> neverming
[04:11] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> XD
[04:11] <Bearcat> that would be the equivilant of an explosion to me
[04:11] <raylu> lol
[04:11] <Bearcat> no dice.
[04:11] <BluesKaj> it prolly releases pending installs or removals that are stalled
[04:12] <Bearcat> it's still not removing those packages
[04:12] <raylu> Bearcat, are you using aptitude or apt-get?
[04:12] <Bearcat> i went to update the system, saw that it was gonna downlload 58 megs and canceled.
[04:12] <BluesKaj> Bearcat, try  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:12] <Bearcat> now i'm just trying to *completely* reinstall sane
[04:13] <Bearcat> and i'm using adept
[04:13] <Bearcat> BluesKaj: done
[04:13] <chaotic> is there any way to  remove the temporary root  access and have   it always on  like   debian has
[04:13] <intelikey> Bearcat sudo  apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install <package names here>
[04:13] <raylu> Bearcat, try it with "sudo aptitude remove sane" or whatever package you wanted to get rid of
[04:14] <raylu> chaotic, "su" or "sudo -s"
[04:14] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> chaotic: "sudo passwd root", IIRC.
[04:14] <Bearcat> intelikey: it's complaining about The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:14] <Bearcat>   sun-java6-bin: Depends: sun-java6-jre (= 6-00-2ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed
[04:15] <intelikey> ummmm hmmmm  there's the issue.
[04:15] <Bearcat> intelikey: yeah, and i'd really rather not take the time this eveing to download the 58 mgs tonight.
[04:15] <intelikey> umkay
[04:16] <Bearcat> it's not that i'm impatient it's that it's dial-up and i don't get the opportunity to be over here to fix this very often. Her husband is very sick so my windows of opportinuty are narrow,
[04:17] <Bearcat> right now this scanner issue is the last major hurdle and she is up and running.
[04:17] <intelikey> ooops   dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/dhcp3-server_3.0.3-6ubuntu7_i386.deb (--unpack):
[04:17] <intelikey>  trying to overwrite `/etc/init.d', which is also in package x11-common
[04:17] <intelikey> i guess i'll have to rm /etc/init.d and mkdir /etc/init.d   a symlink to /dev/null has confused dpkg
[04:19] <intelikey> ah shoot,  it seems that the package doesn't do dependancy checking
[04:19] <intelikey> Setting up dhcp3-server (3.0.3-6ubuntu7) ...
[04:20] <Bearcat> alight, i'll just tell them to let it run overnight and then come back tomorrow
[04:20] <intelikey>  /var/lib/dpkg/info/dhcp3-server.postinst: 24: adduser: not found
[04:20] <Bearcat> thanks folks
[04:20] <intelikey> if adduser is a dependancy then why doesn't the package depend on adduser   ?
[04:20] <intelikey> i'll call that a bug.
[04:21] <tek> just out of curiousity, are there any recommended IM clients besides Kopete and GAIM that do Jabber+ standard IM services?
[04:22] <NightBird> intelikey: you don't have adduser installed?  I thought that was included by default..
[04:22] <intelikey> NightBird default is mearly a starting point on the long road to "right"
[04:23] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> intelikey: You should file a bug report on that dependency problem at Launchpad.
[04:25] <intelikey> NightBird after install  i did something like     for Q in `dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f3` ;do apt-get remove -y $Q ;done    and went to bed...    crude but affective! next day i had a clean base system on which i added what i wanted
[04:25] <rrbiz> windows codecs ?
[04:25] <intelikey> !codecs
[04:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:26] <BluesKaj> WhtWolfTeraDyne, what good will that do , launchpad never issues any fixes ...what PITA it is on google ...it would be nice not have to commiserate with others that have the same problem , but that does help fix it ...google should be shot for having launchpad at the top their query list
[04:27] <rrbiz> ty
[04:27] <intelikey> WhtWolfTeraDyne yeah i probably should,   but probably wont,  i'm not regestered, don't want to reg. and that bug most likely will never affect anyone else.
[04:27] <BluesKaj> er doesn't help fix
[04:30] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> BluesKaj: Sadly, it's the only real way to file bugs for *buntu, even if it isn't exacly the best way.
[04:30] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> intelikey: Whatever you think is best...
[04:34] <BluesKaj> intelikey, so you don't have the annoying dialog box asking for your password when you want to run apt or ...whatever ?
[04:34] <BluesKaj> er adept
[04:35] <intelikey> BluesKaj nope.   i don't have a password
[04:35] <intelikey> all accounts are locked
[04:35] <rrbiz> intelikey: those instructions are for ubuntu not kubuntu, i'll have to figure it out
[04:39] <damien_> Hi guys, Anyone know a good Imageresizer in Adept?
[04:39] <hitmanWilly> damien_: gimp does that well
[04:40] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> damien_: digiKam has a resize option if you have it in an album.
[04:40] <intelikey> krita ?
[04:41] <blackjeebus> When I plug my Sprint Connection Card into the PCMCIA slot on this laptop [Dell Latitude D520] , the system immediately locks. But my Verizon one works perfectly. Is there something special I need to do for the Sprint card [Merlin S560] ?
[04:41] <intelikey> rrbiz what exactly are you trying to do ?
[04:43] <K-Ryan> blackjeebus: It should be in when you start your laptop, don't plug it in while it's booted.
[04:43] <blackjeebus> If I have it in while booting, it locks the system
[04:43] <blackjeebus> Right in the middle of boot
[04:43] <K-Ryan> Under loading hardware drivers?
[04:44] <blackjeebus> Lemme check; its usually when its assigning the memory address to the device
[04:44] <intelikey> K-Ryan no plugging pc cards while running ?     sense when ?
[04:44] <K-Ryan> intelikey: I dunno, I thought it was like a hard drive kind of deal.
[04:45] <K-Ryan> More like a USB kind of deal I guess?
[04:45] <intelikey> yeah
[04:45] <K-Ryan> Oh, cool
[04:45] <K-Ryan> Didn't know that
[04:47] <intelikey> in mandrake there was an app for umounting/disconnecting/unsyncing the card first  but you didn't have to use it...     i haven't messed with a pc card in several years now.
[04:47] <blackjeebus> Yeah it locks up on boot right after "pcmcia: parent PCI bridge Memory window blah blah blah
[04:48] <K-Ryan> Hrmm
[04:48] <intelikey> was kinda like using "eject" on a cdrom   good but not always needed, sometimes you can just push the button
[04:48] <K-Ryan> Might want to look around in !wifi
[04:48] <K-Ryan> !wifi
[04:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:49] <K-Ryan> There is a section about supported cards, look in there for your card.
[04:49] <K-Ryan> With the card there will be a short guide on what is needed.
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: nah, this wouldn't be in there...
[04:50] <K-Ryan> hitmanWilly: What if a card caused freezing if the laptop wasn't setup beforehand?
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: its basically a DSL modem that connects with a cell signal
[04:50] <K-Ryan> Couldn't a card need presetup?
[04:50] <intelikey> it sounds more like the wrong driver is black listed
[04:50] <rrbiz> intelikey: i was just try'n to get w32codecs, had to add the medibuntu rep and apt-get it, those instructions from the bot are for ubuntu's package manager
[04:50] <blackjeebus> yeah
[04:50] <blackjeebus> my verizon one works PERFECTLY
[04:51] <K-Ryan> So why not use that? o.O
[04:51] <blackjeebus> well its not really mine; I needed another card to test
[04:51] <K-Ryan> Ah
[04:51] <tupa> how do I install xserver-xorg-video-unichrome. I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it is not listed
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> blackjeebus: they use different protocols, and the sprint ones have multiple protocol support iirc
[04:51] <tupa> how do I install xserver-xorg-video-unichrome?. I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it is not listed
[04:51] <intelikey> rrbiz the instructions are for synaptic  yes  but the other info like what to put in the sources.list and where to find the packages are there      did you get things working ?
[04:52] <BluesKaj> rrbiz, i find adding the repos to the sources list and updating is easier and more effective than using adept or synaptic to do it
[04:52] <blackjeebus> hitmanWilly: Meaning I would have to enable something extra?
[04:53] <hitmanWilly> blackjeebus: or it could act as a softmodem, which would suck for you :)
[04:53] <intelikey> !find xserver-xorg-driver-unichrome
[04:53] <ubotu> Package/file xserver-xorg-driver-unichrome does not exist in feisty
[04:53] <BluesKaj> getting close to my sacktime folks ...take care , and nite all
[04:54] <intelikey> !find unichrome
[04:54] <ubotu> Found: xserver-xorg-video-unichrome
[04:54] <intelikey> tupa sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-unichrome
[04:55] <tupa> intelikey -_-
[04:55] <tupa> I already know that, and how do you make it work !!
[04:56] <intelikey> never messed with that...    don't know what kind of module it is,   if it's supposed to be a driver just edit the xorg.conf and put  unichrome   where   vesa   was
[04:56] <intelikey> be prepaired to fix it in the dark though
[04:57] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !info xserver-xorg-video-unichrome
[04:57] <ubotu> xserver-xorg-video-unichrome: X.Org X server -- VIA display driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 83 kB, installed size 248 kB
[04:57] <K-Ryan> intelikey: CLI is fun =)
[04:57] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> it might be listed as "via", or something that's not "unichrome".
[04:57] <intelikey> K-Ryan preching to the quiour
[04:58] <mneptok> "via" is the default Unichrome driver from Main
[04:58] <K-Ryan> ?
[04:59] <mneptok> anything with a Unichrome chipset should get "via" during installation.
[05:00] <intelikey> mneptok there is a driver  via  yes what is that packge ^  ?
[05:00] <mneptok> intelikey: no idea. never messed with it.
[05:01] <intelikey> :)
[05:01] <intelikey> that's what i said....   lol
[05:01] <rrbiz> intelikey: BluesKaj: yeah i added manually, i'm all good, but those instructions wouldn't pertain to kubuntu
[05:01] <rrbiz> at least not right off i spose
[05:01] <mneptok> i could install it, but the "via" driver is working fine. and that's the girlfriend's machine.
[05:01] <intelikey> blueskaj already left.
[05:03] <tupa> mneptok I think you are wrong, I'm using vesa, via driver doesn't work
[05:03] <tupa> it freezes
[05:04] <mneptok> tupa: the Unichrome i have is not recent
[05:04] <tupa> ok
[05:04] <tupa> well, then freezes for newer unichrome chips :)
[05:04] <tupa> just an incomplete truth
[05:05] <mneptok> i know there's a Unichrome is the machine, and i know the "via" driver works.
[05:05] <mneptok> other that that ... pray to whatever gods you worship.
[05:06] <mneptok> *than
[05:06] <tupa> rrbiz do you have unichrome?
[05:06] <hitmanWilly> is there an actual 'unichrome' driver?
[05:06] <intelikey> if i use a car battery to test this cat5 cable  i can just contact each end of each wire to each post and watch for a spark to make sure it's not open circut   right ?
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: yeah, you try that :P
[05:07] <mneptok> intelikey: wait for lightning
[05:07] <intelikey> hitmanWilly i'm fixing to.
[05:07] <tupa> wish me luck
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> actually, that might even work...
[05:07] <tupa> I'm trying unichrome in xorg.conf
[05:07] <intelikey> it's 20m  there is enough resistance it won't over heat
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> or at least the cables
[05:09] <intelikey> light duty cables that works.  but you don't want to do that with 6ought welding leads
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> no, not that dumb
[05:11] <intelikey> probably not even 2 ought
[05:14] <ShockValue> anyone know what i need to install to get NNTP support for python?
[05:15] <intelikey> !find nntp
[05:15] <ubotu> Found: cyrus-nntpd-2.2, libnews-nntpclient-perl, nntp, openntpd, phpgroupware-nntp
[05:15] <tupa> does anyone here know how to setup xserver-xorg-video-unichrome?
[05:16] <thunderbolt> ShockValue: at one time, there was an NNTP library with python.
[05:16] <tupa> I removed vesa and wrote unichrome and it didn't work
[05:16] <intelikey> i don't see anything on it ShockValue   freshmeat.net ?
[05:16] <rrbiz> tupa: i used to, now use i810
[05:16] <thunderbolt> ShockValue: http://docs.python.org/lib/module-nntplib.html
[05:16] <ShockValue> http://docs.python.org/lib/module-nntplib.html
[05:16] <tupa> rrbiz, do you actually used xserver-xorg-video-unichrome?
[05:16] <tupa> or via
[05:16] <thunderbolt> Python: Batteries included!
[05:16] <tupa> you said you had an older unichrome
[05:16] <ShockValue> yeah, thats what im readying, but im not sure how to add that.. currently my python doesnt recognise the NNTP thing
[05:16] <intelikey> there ya go
[05:16] <rrbiz> use to b4, and it would sometimes work ok
[05:17] <tupa> rrbiz, how did you set it up?
[05:19] <tupa> is there a developer or something that can help me out?
[05:19] <rrbiz> tupa: would have to settle for vesa most of the time
[05:19] <tupa> rrbiz, why?
[05:20] <tupa> that's dumb, unless unichrome doesn't work appropriately
[05:20] <rrbiz> wasn't easy
[05:20] <dr_willis> i recall hearing some bad things about unichrome in the past.
[05:20] <dr_willis> not used them myself.
[05:21] <tupa> dr_willis, well I can't configure it
[05:21] <rrbiz> unlesss things are better for it now, i guess it easier, dk
[05:22] <dr_willis> When in doubt. check the wiki/forums i guess.
[05:22] <dr_willis> I got an apple2c thats Monocrome. :)
[05:22] <intelikey> :)
[05:22] <dr_willis> the good old days! playing ultima2 on a Amber Monitor!
[05:22] <dr_willis> :)
[05:23] <ardchoille> lol!
[05:23] <intelikey> or selling lemonade on the C64 even
[05:23] <dr_willis> M.U.L.U
[05:23] <dr_willis> M.U.L.E
[05:23] <BlackBsd> how do i turn on the sshd and allow remote logins on the install disk?
[05:23] <dr_willis> Sell that Smithore! and Crystalite!
[05:23] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Marathon...
[05:24] <intelikey> BlackBsd install ssh
[05:24] <BlackBsd> also dont i have to set a root password or a sudo password?
[05:24] <intelikey> BlackBsd no just use the sudo command
[05:24] <dr_willis> you can go to the console on the live cd and run rooty commands also i think.
[05:25] <intelikey> with sudo
[05:25] <intelikey> sudo -i
[05:25] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> It's 22:25... I'm off to bed. Night everyone! *sets away*
[05:25] <intelikey> BlackBsd you will have to set a passwd for "guest"  or is it "ubuntu"   which ever account is setup
[05:26] <intelikey> or sshd will not allow connection   iirc
[05:27] <intelikey> TeraDyne sleep well
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> is sshd even installed on the livecd?
[05:27] <intelikey> you can install it
[05:27] <intelikey> just install  ssh
[05:28] <intelikey> it's the meta package    gets server and client
[05:28] <srowe> hi room.  i'm having some issues with my NVIDIA drivers causing my system to freeze.  would this be the right room?
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> srowe: what card and what driver?
[05:28] <intelikey> srowe actually probably   #ubutnu-effects
[05:28] <BlackBsd> i want to remotely ssh into the box and run fdisk
[05:28] <intelikey> srowe but ask anyway
[05:29] <dr_willis> BlackBsd,  why? heh
[05:29] <srowe> it's the NVIDIA 7300 LE card, and the latest driver installed through Envy
[05:29] <dr_willis> cant get to its console? no screen?
[05:29] <srowe> thanks intelli
[05:29] <BlackBsd> guess i can just do this from the laptop...
[05:29] <intelikey> BlackBsd   install  ssh   set a password for the user   and go for it
[05:29] <srowe> i thought at first it was something to do with wine, but it has locked up on me just browsing the web
[05:29] <BlackBsd> im on the live install cd
[05:30] <intelikey> yes i know
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: he'll have to set up ssh to allow running root cmds iirc
[05:30] <intelikey> hitmanWilly no sudo works
[05:30] <BlackBsd> does the installer create extended partitions?
[05:30] <intelikey> BlackBsd it can
[05:30] <BlackBsd> is that what is calls logical partitions
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> sudo works under ssh? ugh, there's a security hole...
[05:30] <intelikey> BlackBsd it is
[05:30] <thunderbolt> hitmanWilly: huh?
[05:31] <thunderbolt> Why shouldn't sudo work under ssh?
[05:31] <Biovore> hitmanWilly: well you can run commands though ssh running the -c argument
[05:31] <dr_willis> it the user logging in has sudo access..
[05:31] <Biovore> so ssh username@box -c sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[05:31] <Biovore> ^ that would work..
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> thunderbolt: think about it, allowing remote access to root cmds, bad idea imho
[05:31] <Biovore> as dr willis said
[05:31] <BlackBsd> no, i want to set up an extended partition so i can install in.
[05:31] <intelikey> hitmanWilly welcome to my world of despising the "root jr. approach"
[05:32] <thunderbolt> hitmanWilly: How am I suppose to manage my server in Australia if I can't use root commands?
[05:32] <BlackBsd> is therw a kubuntu from scratch
[05:32] <BlackBsd> there
[05:32] <dr_willis> BlackBsd,  hmm.. No.
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> BlackBsd: try the server cd, its probably the closest
[05:33] <intelikey> BlackBsd you can use  [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]     console   sudo cfdisk   or sudo fdisk /dev/blah
[05:33] <BlackBsd> assuming you know the username
[05:33] <intelikey> BlackBsd no
[05:33] <intelikey> try it.
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> thunderbolt: well, that's a special case, but most people manage their machines locally
[05:35] <rustalot> How do I copy photos in one album into another album in DigiKam? I looked around, but it seems that you can only import from file when you do "add photos".
[05:35] <intelikey> remote admin  is not so uncommon,   just less secure imo
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: definately less secure
[05:35] <thunderbolt> I'd say slightly less secure, but very convenient.
[05:35] <thunderbolt> Especially if you're using SSH with strong keys, passphrases, etc.
[05:35] <BlackBsd> i think i have to install ssh..
[05:36] <intelikey> thunderbolt and your user passwd is secure enough
[05:36] <BlackBsd> is it not on the install DVD already?
[05:36] <BlackBsd> which sshd
[05:36] <BlackBsd> opps wrong terminal
[05:36] <intelikey> hitmanWilly :)
[05:36] <intelikey> me too
[05:37] <BlackBsd> ssh is pretty safe..
[05:37] <intelikey> tty3 [greg$~]  pastebin /etc/sudoers
[05:37] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38277
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> the app is still there for dependency issues, but no user accts are actually in the group
[05:37] <intelikey> hehhe    looks can be decieving  :)
[05:39] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:39] <srowe> do you know of any other channels that might know something about nvidia drivers?
[05:39] <intelikey> #ubuntu-effects
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> srowe: im not sure about envy, but nvidia-glx is the pkg you want for that card
[05:40] <intelikey> !ati
[05:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:46] <intelikey> hmm no trace*   i thought i had tracepath installed
[05:47] <tek> anyone familiar with setting up wifi with bcm43xx-fwcutter?
[05:47] <srowe> tek, i actually just did that.  just a sec and i'll tell you what you need to do
[05:48] <tek> srowe: well I got it working but after a reboot it no longer works :(
[05:48] <srowe> http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/329
[05:48] <srowe> tek: may be a stupid question, but did you click on the icon and select the wireless connection?  it seems to default to the ethernet connection if you don't
[05:49] <Guest_578_> i am having a proble with installing wine anyone got any suggestions??
[05:49] <dr_willis> Guest_578_,  clarify the problem for a start
[05:49] <Guest_578_> it cant create the executables
[05:49] <intelikey> what's normal if you tracepath your own ip ?   one hop out one back ?
[05:49] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install wine -- works for me.
[05:49] <dr_willis> You mean problems COMPILING wine?
[05:49] <Guest_578_> i dont have internet accesse on it
[05:50] <Guest_578_> yeah cause i am using the wineinstalll that came with the package
[05:50] <Minataku> Heya, dr_willis
[05:50] <intelikey> Guest_578_ install build-essential
[05:50] <dr_willis> ive never used wineinstall, I just yuse the upstream wine repo.
[05:50] <dr_willis> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt feisty main
[05:50] <dr_willis> and then apt-get it
[05:50] <tek> srowe: disabled eth0 each time i reboot, enabled eth1 each time... double check its route settings... it seems ONCE it works and I reboot for any reason I no longer see wireless networks
[05:51] <dr_willis> Minataku,  i got a whole table of junk to send you.. :) sorting through it slowly.
[05:51] <Minataku> I just emerge whichever is the most recent in Portage
[05:51] <Minataku> dr_willis: Kickass! :D
[05:51] <Minataku> Care to rattle off some of the stuff :3
[05:51] <Guest_578_> do i have to have inetaccess to use the debian stuff??
[05:51] <intelikey> Guest_578_ build-essential is on the install disk
[05:51] <intelikey> i think.
[05:51] <dr_willis> Minataku,  so far a lot of amiga books. (abacus) and disks, and disks, and disks...
[05:51] <Guest_578_> ok
[05:52] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: nope, not on feisty
[05:52] <dr_willis> and some amiga parts. :)  slowly working around the room to the amigas
[05:52] <Minataku> Cool :D
[05:52] <Minataku> Awesome :3
[05:52] <Guest_578_> i am a newb so you will have to explain pretty well
[05:52] <intelikey> you can't compile anything without gcc and gcc is part of build-essential   nd the error message implies that you don't have gcc
[05:52] <intelikey> so
[05:52] <intelikey> Guest_578_ install build-essential
[05:53] <srowe> tek: that's about the extent of my knowledge on the subject.  sorry. :(
[05:53] <Guest_578_> is build essential on the os installation or the wine installation
[05:53] <tupa> no luck with xserver-xorg-unichrome :(
[05:53] <Guest_578_> disk
[05:53] <intelikey> now.   i do concure with dr_willis on the fact that you are doing it the hard way by building the source.
[05:53] <intelikey> Guest_578_ the ubuntu disk
[05:54] <Guest_578_> ok
[05:54] <damien> Hey guys. Does Kopete automatically log chats?
[05:54] <dr_willis> wine needs a bit more then just build-essential - would be my guess
[05:54] <intelikey> dr_willis me too but he can't get far enough to know that without b-e
[05:55] <Minataku> Hm
[05:55] <Guest_578_> ok
[05:55] <Minataku> I wonder if I could see what Portage demands for WINE
[05:55] <Minataku> It won't be exact
[05:56] <intelikey> and the wine.deb will have deps too   so  either way...  it won't be fun without networking
[05:56] <Minataku> But it'll give a good overview
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> Minataku: should be enough to get moving in the right direction, tho
[05:56] <Minataku> But really, the best thing to do is get networking
[05:56] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: Indeed
[05:56] <illDecree> kurt, you gettin the help you need?
[05:56] <kurtis> kinda
[05:57] <Minataku> http://www.gentoo-portage.com/app-emulation/wine/Dep#ptabs << Here ya go
[05:57] <kurtis> ok i have no way of connecting it to the internet
[05:57] <Minataku> Go down past the list of available versions
[05:57] <dr_willis> Only thing i do with pc's athat are not on the network.. is.. err.. Hmm... not a lot..
[05:57] <illDecree> anyone know of another good/reliable kubuntu support channel anywhere? or forums....anything...i just need resources
[05:57] <Minataku> Heh
[05:57] <dr_willis> Play FreeCol? ... tryed that yet? its a good game
[05:57] <Minataku> Those are all hobby machines for me
[05:57] <Minataku> Oh, dr_willis
[05:57] <Minataku> I got a DEC Personal DECstation 5000/33 :D
[05:58] <dr_willis> illDecree,  theres the official ubbuntu/kubuntu forums
[05:58] <Minataku> MIPS R3000A + R3010 FPC @ 33MHz :3
[05:58] <dr_willis> more stuff to get your dad mad at you. :)
[05:58] <miles> yo yo
[05:58] <illDecree> dr_willis....is it on the ubuntu page?   is there a good IRC channel you know of, or is this it?
[05:59] <Minataku> dr_willis: Damn straight :D
[05:59] <dr_willis> Ill stick with my Emulators..
[05:59] <miles> minataku, language!
[05:59] <dr_willis> illDecree,  this is about as good as it gets. :)
[05:59] <Minataku> miles: It's well within PG
[05:59] <miles> oic
[05:59] <dr_willis> PG13+
[05:59] <dr_willis> :)
[05:59] <miles> i misread
[05:59] <tek> srowe: thanks... I just tried rerunning the bcm install (recutting the firmware...) still no luck...  - beavis and butthead do america
[05:59] <intelikey> Minataku pg maybe.   not G
[05:59] <tek> maybe ill try bringing my laptop back into the wired port and reinstalling a few things
[05:59] <Minataku> PMAX was the codename of the first machine of the line
[05:59] <dr_willis> Im just annoyed that the vice emulator for Ubuntu has a bug in it that makes it unuseable. :(
[06:00] <illDecree> i mean, i haven't been here long enough to form an opinion, but i'm just trying to build a resource list, ya know?
[06:00] <Minataku> intelikey: I typically follow the guidelines for primetime programming set by one of America's most oppressive organizations... the FCC
[06:00] <Minataku> lol
[06:00] <dr_willis> illDecree,  theres ooodles of google hits. :) but the official ubuntu/kubuntu wiki/forums are the best to start with.
[06:00] <Kdawg532> is there a package installer for wine that would just install it for me??
[06:00] <Minataku> Kdawg532: Yes
[06:00] <illDecree> alright, ill check into that
[06:00] <Minataku> apt-get
[06:00] <Minataku> Or adept
[06:00] <Minataku> Or synaptic
[06:00] <Minataku> et al
[06:00] <dr_willis> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt feisty main
[06:01] <dr_willis> is the unofficial latest wine repo.
[06:01] <Kdawg532> i need to have internet access on the pc tho
[06:01] <illDecree> i'm here just helping someone else in this channel who is new to linux...and im pretty new to ubuntu/kubuntu,....im a long time gentoo user
[06:01] <Minataku> Kdawg532: Do it now while you're online here
[06:01] <tek> bah, of course X11 wont let me turn off dual support on the fly (or I dont know how :P)
[06:01] <Kdawg532> i am using a verizon aircard and cant use it on there
[06:01] <intelikey> Minataku i generaly try to show that i can talk without offending people but for some reason i always make exceptions for you   :)
[06:01] <dr_willis> illDecree,  then ubuntu/kubuntu should be trivial..  A crossover cable should work fine
[06:02] <Minataku> intelikey: Haha
[06:02] <Minataku> intelikey: I try my best
[06:02] <Minataku> XD
[06:02] <intelikey> :)
[06:02] <K-Ryan> Anyone feel like letting me SSH to them, just to test this out?
[06:02] <illDecree> hey, question on that aircard kdawg is using....how hard would it be to take a box running winxp MCE '05 sp2, and run it thru a router to share the connection? never tried anythhing quite like that....
[06:02] <Minataku> Sorry, though, I don't ACTUALLY try
[06:02] <Kdawg532> that ruined it to i spent five hours getting it to work again
[06:02] <K-Ryan> By this, I mean SSHing
[06:02] <Minataku> It just happens :3
[06:02] <Kdawg532> ics doesnt work
[06:02] <Minataku> K-Ryan: Set up SSH on another machine
[06:02] <illDecree> i figured a crossover woudl be fine, but he tells me the last time he tried that, he fuct it all up badly....
[06:02] <Minataku> Or SSH to something you don't own
[06:02] <Kdawg532> it will kill the air card
[06:02] <K-Ryan> Minataku: Don't have one
[06:02] <illDecree> Kurt, imma come up there and make it all work for ya man
[06:02] <illDecree> haha
[06:02] <illDecree> :-D
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: yeah, ok, the address is <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:03] <Minataku> BUT DON'T LOGIN
[06:03] <intelikey> K-Ryan try   ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:03] <Minataku> lol
[06:03] <K-Ryan> hitmanWilly: Did it already actually
[06:03] <Minataku> K-Ryan: What's the issue you're having with SSH?
[06:03] <K-Ryan> Not like, fooled
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:03] <K-Ryan> Minataku: None, I just want to SSH
[06:03] <K-Ryan> Playing with my new toys
[06:03] <tk> ok wired works...
[06:03] <Minataku> lol
[06:03] <Minataku> K-Ryan: Set up sshd
[06:03] <K-Ryan> sshd?
[06:03] <Minataku> Then ssh to yourself
[06:03] <K-Ryan> I already ssh-ed to myself!
[06:03] <illDecree> you need to get that fuckin kubuntu box online somehow
[06:04] <Minataku> Then stop complaining XD
[06:04] <illDecree> i got something for ya kurt
[06:04] <illDecree> brb
[06:04] <Kdawg532> yeah ok
[06:04] <K-Ryan> I wanna ssh to someone else
[06:05] <Minataku> Heh
[06:05] <Minataku> K-Ryan: Set up a LAN
[06:05] <K-Ryan> I have a LAN
[06:05] <Minataku> I had a Sun box on my network that I SSH'd to
[06:05] <K-Ryan> Except the other box is useless and using Windows
[06:05] <K-Ryan> I know ssh works with it
[06:06] <Kdawg532> Nova Tel Usb 720
[06:06] <K-Ryan> But there's not much of a point, it's next to me...
[06:06] <K-Ryan> Although...
[06:06] <Kdawg532> minataku can you find a chipset for a nova tel usb 720
[06:06] <Minataku> Kdawg532: Have you tried using ndiswrapper?
[06:07] <Kdawg532> no i havnt
[06:07] <dr_willis> I told my wife to Sshhhhhhhhh once... she smacked me.
[06:07] <Minataku> Then try that
[06:07] <Minataku> dr_willis: Heehee
[06:07] <illDecree> the aircard he is talking about is cellular wireless...i think...
[06:08] <Kdawg532> yes it is
[06:08] <Kdawg532> its through verizon wireless with software from smith micro
[06:08] <Minataku> Screw Verizon :P
[06:09] <illDecree> yeah,....haha, especially for me, i work for Comcast....FUCKEMALL
[06:09] <illDecree> haha
[06:09] <Minataku> Comcast is even WORSE
[06:09] <illDecree> believe me, i KNOW....
[06:09] <Kdawg532> when i get verizon fios you'll really be sayin that
[06:09] <Kdawg532> 15 meg down 2meg up
[06:10] <illDecree> i have to deal w/stupid ass people all day, who are "Tier 2 IP Support" and they call me ALL DAY LONG trying to set up they're email in Outlook....seriously, if you cant figure that out, you shouldn't support people and there're connection, ya know?
[06:10] <illDecree> tis funny tho, b/c when i get into IRC channels. most people are connecting from a comcast server somewhere
[06:10] <Kdawg532> or maybe i will get the 30 meg down and the 5 meg up
[06:10] <BlackBsd> hi does anyone got a dell that came with ubuntu?
[06:10] <BlackBsd> im looking for a kernel config file that will match this hardware
[06:10] <BlackBsd> or come close to it...
[06:11] <K`zan>  rsync -rpv --progress nimitz:/home/vw/public_html .  <<--- That should backup *everything* from the target directory, right?
[06:11] <illDecree> :-D....more people that make my life miserable...although, i can't complain, we have 16 meg down, and 3 meg up here, and i don't pay a dime for it
[06:11] <illDecree> that part is nice
[06:11] <BlackBsd> without having all thoes other options set.
[06:11] <illDecree> how are those dell ubuntu boxes?
[06:11] <dr_willis> illDecree,  a bit over priced last i looked.
[06:11] <dr_willis> there was a stink about them last week..
[06:12] <Minataku> It's still better than Windows
[06:12] <dr_willis> The equilient windows offer. included free extra memory + bigger HD. for  about the same price..
[06:12] <Minataku> They probably have to find Linux-capable HW
[06:12] <Minataku> Though it is Dell
[06:12] <intelikey> pretty simple really.   just outputing to your tty
[06:12] <Kdawg532> i dont know i might just wate and take my box to my friends house and get it all of the deb servers
[06:12] <illDecree> yeah, i noticed, and read a few things, that they are only $50 cheaper than one w/M$...which is sad, you would think they would knock off like 100 or so, to make it worthwhile, even tho they have to only be paying like 60-70 or so, per license, ya know?
[06:12] <Minataku> So it's more likely that they're just assholes :P
[06:12] <dr_willis> the windows/linux machines (this may of been just the laptops) HW were identical.
[06:12] <Minataku> Ah
[06:12] <Minataku> Then they're just assholes
[06:12] <Minataku> :3
[06:13] <dr_willis> Then theres the case of.. what will ya do in 2 years.. give the box to some kid/cousin/sister.. they proberly will want windows on it...
[06:13] <illDecree> yeah, HW is ident....but the OS makes a 50 buck difference.....sad...
[06:13] <BlackBsd> i bought the laptop before dell anounced linux support
[06:13] <Kdawg532> if i bought a new dell i would get linux cause i hate vista
[06:13] <Minataku> They can use Linux or piss off
[06:13] <Minataku> :D
[06:13] <dr_willis> 'support' for linux from dell = means what exactly? :)
[06:13] <dr_willis> Expect them to teach you the shell?
[06:13] <illDecree> now they are makin money on the linux people too! haha, i htought i might buy one tho, just to support the linux thing.....   maybe it's just me, and im stupid tho, :-D
[06:13] <BlackBsd> but mine has all the same components..
[06:13] <BlackBsd> and it all pretty much works
[06:13] <BlackBsd> but i lost my custom kernel conf file
[06:14] <Minataku> "Support? #ubuntu"
[06:14] <BlackBsd> with only my hardware stuff enabled
[06:14] <Minataku> X3
[06:14] <Kdawg532> i am using kubuntu in a dell box that originally came with xp prof
[06:14] <Kdawg532> it works great
[06:14] <BlackBsd> i have been trying to google for it with no luck
[06:14] <illDecree> 'support' from dell for linux means: "is you're computer turned on? common mistake..... is you're monitor plugged in...another common mistake..... umm...check the forums on ubuntu's website, have a good day"    :-D
[06:14] <Minataku> I'm using Gentoo on a Toshiba laptop
[06:15] <dr_willis> :)
[06:15] <Minataku> lol
[06:15] <dr_willis> Soon will have Rock 2.0!
[06:15] <illDecree> i'm using gentoo on a dell 1.8 p4, ill tell ya, it runs GREAT!
[06:15] <dr_willis> I did find my C64 CPM cartridge today!
[06:15] <Minataku> Awesome! :D
[06:15] <Kdawg532> i am going to get a slave disk in my lappy and put kubuntu 64 bit on it and see how it runs
[06:15] <dr_willis> i just got no software for it.
[06:15] <illDecree> Minataku: did you have 802.11 in you're laptop?
[06:15] <dr_willis> :)
[06:15] <illDecree> i had a linksys adapter, i couldn't find drivers for
[06:16] <BlackBsd> well its like the openmoko phone.
[06:16] <BlackBsd> i cant wait till i get one.
[06:16] <BlackBsd> gentoo has been on this dell laptop for about a year now.
[06:16] <dr_willis> BlackBsd,   looking forward to those also.
[06:16] <Minataku> illDecree: Yes, fully supported, too
[06:16] <dr_willis> Got a GP2x right now. :) handheld/game thing. thats running linux.
[06:16] <Minataku> My laptop ("Piyoko") was purchased in 2003
[06:17] <illDecree> wow.... thats awesome
[06:17] <Minataku> She's got an orinoco_cs card
[06:17] <raylu> oh god
[06:17] <Minataku> Fully open chipset
[06:17] <raylu> first boxen, now "she" for laptops?
[06:17] <BlackBsd> on thing is that my wireless works in ubuntu and not in gentoo..
[06:17] <BlackBsd> must be a config isue
[06:17] <Minataku> raylu: I have systems with male names that are "he"s
[06:17] <BlackBsd> issue
[06:17] <raylu> that's why i say "it"
[06:17] <BlackBsd> i got built in 3945
[06:17] <illDecree> damn, you ever play w/the linksys WRT54GL models?
[06:17] <Minataku> raylu: Personal preference
[06:17] <illDecree> i have one of the older ones that worked fine before they release the "L" series
[06:18] <Minataku> Heh
[06:18] <BlackBsd> dr_willis, they got the developer phones ready to go...
[06:18] <BlackBsd> but i want the model with the built in wifi
[06:18] <dr_willis> BlackBsd,  wee...  Try  '/server <IP_ADDRESS>' "
[06:19] <dr_willis> :)
[06:19] <BlackBsd> i had the iphone for 4 days
[06:19] <BlackBsd> i took it back
[06:19] <intelikey> miles i already own <IP_ADDRESS> joo
[06:19] <miles> haha
[06:19] <intelikey> :)
[06:19] <illDecree> yeah, i broke an iPhone last week, i was playing w/ a guy from work's iPhone, and i fuct it up, i'm not sure how....but somehow, i managed to make it shutdown, and never boot again......strange
[06:19] <K-Ryan> Whoa whoa whoa
[06:20] <BlackBsd> the openmoko is going to kill it with features
[06:20] <K-Ryan> You stole my IP?
[06:20] <dr_willis> Hay! thats MY ip!
[06:20] <miles> iPhone is weak because apple didnt release a SDK
[06:20] <miles> for the public
[06:20] <intelikey> and to think i could have locked his box up....
[06:20] <dr_willis> iPhone is weak because of apple
[06:20] <dr_willis> :)
[06:20] <BlackBsd> iidecree, that was only one model where they used linux firmware
[06:20] <miles> pwn
[06:21] <BlackBsd> i think they stopped making that model
[06:21] <illDecree> the other routers, you could flash it w/linux firmware...thats what i did...its not bad, but i wish i could go back to the OEM simplicity, to be honest w/ya
[06:21] <miles> are you talking about dd-wrt?
[06:21] <Minataku> Back
[06:21] <dr_willis> I got a Linksys NSLU2 'unslung' that runs Linux. ... somewhere....
[06:21] <dr_willis> wonder where i put that.
[06:21] <illDecree> they made a few that supported it, had to do w/the size of the chips, and some other shit...but then they released the "L" series...(WRT54gL) that went back to the old specs so people could flash it w/linux
[06:22] <miles> i recently flashed my wrt54gs with dd-wrt
[06:22] <miles> its pretty sweet
[06:22] <miles> wireless bridge is nice
[06:22] <illDecree> i never got into it too badly, i just flashed it, played w/it a lil, configured it the way i wanted it, and honestly, thats the last time i was even logged into that router for anything other than to add another MAC to the filter list....
[06:29] <tk> srowe: well its working now... hopefully it stays working this time
[06:29] <tk> i still dont see the wifi stuff like I did before though in the network manager
[06:31] <intelikey> computius say "word is four letter word"
[06:36] <ubuntu__> Could anyone help me with a complicated partition problem?  I've messed up my partition table, apparently...and fdisk and cfdisk can no long see two partitions that are actually still there.  I used a partition doctor program on windows, and can see that they still exist. However, it';s only a demo so it wont let me repair the problem.
[06:37] <intelikey> ubuntu__ testdisk
[06:37] <intelikey> !info testdisk
[06:37] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB
[06:37] <ubuntu__> testdisk? ok thank you
[06:38] <intelikey> can be installed on the live cd and ran from there...
[06:39] <ubuntu__> excellent, im on the livecd so good
[06:39] <ubuntu__> hehe
[06:39] <ubuntu__> ill try that
[06:39] <ubuntu__> thank you
[06:39] <intelikey> it's usage is pretty streight forwaard   but you probably want to read about it first so it doesn't frighten you.
[06:39] <intelikey> yeah your nick kinda gave that away
[06:40] <lunar-raven> oh duh
[06:40] <lunar-raven> sorry
[06:40] <lunar-raven> Lol
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:41] <Kr4t05> I have a rather silly question that probably belongs in -offtopic, but... Why isn't Firefox in Kubuntu by default?
[06:41] <intelikey_hidden> cause konqueror is
[06:42] <Kr4t05> Right...
[06:42] <sfire> firefox = barf
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> Kr4t05: its a gtk app and doesn't fit into the whole kde/qt look and feel thing
[06:42] <sfire> IMHO
[06:42] <Minataku> Because KDE demands on idiotic reimplementations
[06:42] <lunar-raven> wow
[06:42] <Minataku> ala Konq and KOffice
[06:42] <lunar-raven> that program sees them
[06:42] <lunar-raven> =)
[06:42] <klobster> any idea why kaffeine is crashing?  it's only on my user, other users are fine
[06:42] <Kr4t05> Well, IMHO, Konqueror is a mediocre file manager that pretends to be a web browser in it's spare time.
[06:43] <Minataku> Kr4t05: Congrats, you win
[06:43] <sfire> klobster: try deleting the configuration files in your user account and let it re-create (assuming you have no important settings)
[06:43] <Minataku> lol
[06:43] <hitmanWilly> klobster: are you in all the necessary groups?
[06:43] <Kr4t05> Why not just ditch Konqueror and use Kommander as a file manager and use something else?
[06:44] <Kr4t05> Or, it Konq the only QT-based browser out there?
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> right now konq is the closest *ducks*
[06:45] <lunar-raven> intelikey that's amazing, it fixed it.
[06:45] <lunar-raven> thanks so much
[06:46] <Kr4t05> Why I'm asking this is because I just re-installed in the hope it would fix a disk issue, all of my settings are beautifully preserved, thanks to my separate /home partition.
[06:46] <Kr4t05> However, none of my favorite apps exist, anymore.
[06:46] <Kr4t05> So, apt to the rescue!!
[06:47] <Kr4t05> Dun Du-Daaaaa!
[06:47] <Kr4t05> *Ahem*
[06:47] <sfire> isn't that how everyone does it?
[06:48] <Kr4t05> I dunno... But, I'm off to bed whilst I wait for Apt to do it's magic.
[06:48] <Kr4t05> Night folks.
[06:48] <hitmanWilly> later Kr4t05
[06:58] <Miltos> hi ppl:-)
[07:00] <raylu> !ntfs
[07:00] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:05] <raylu> wow =\
[07:05] <raylu> fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[07:05] <raylu> what are f and d?
[07:05] <raylu> becuase that just solved all my problems.
[07:07] <crimsun> file & directory.
[07:07] <raylu> er...
[07:07] <raylu> so it sets all the files to 0111
[07:07] <raylu> which is octal for...?
[07:08] <raylu> and it looks to me like no one has access to directories that way
[07:08] <NightBird> 7
[07:08] <NightBird> er... wait, 0111 is the octal format?
[07:08] <raylu> that's what i thought too
[07:08] <raylu> it should be 0777
[07:08] <raylu> at least that's what i'm used to seeing
[07:09] <Minataku> *mask is in 8's complement
[07:10] <Minataku> A value of 0777 in *mask will return (7)000
[07:10] <Minataku> 0111 will make everything (7)666
[07:10] <Minataku> Which is hardly desireable
[07:11] <Minataku> 666, BTW, rw-rw-rw-
[07:11] <Minataku> You need execute permissions on directories
[07:11] <Minataku> Otherwise they can't be traversed
[07:15] <HanzZ> hi.. after qt4.3 feisty update i have problem with system tray icon
[07:15] <HanzZ> it has broken transparency (the background is black)
[07:16] <HanzZ> can someone confirm it?
[07:27] <heiths> hola?
[07:27] <Miltos> hi ppl:-) again... i've got a minor problem: "eject" cd rom works only when i type "sudo eject" in the bash, the right click asks for sudo preveleges...strange? any help?
[07:27] <heiths> hey, I'm trying to get my MCSE for a job... (trust me, not looking forward). I wanted to get some advice from some Microsoft people. Problem is, I've never seen an irc for microsoft. Maybe its because I never wanted to.  But does anyone know what server they are hiding out on?
[07:27] <heiths> add yourself to the cdrom group
[07:28] <klobster> heiths: try #mcse
[07:28] <heiths> nice, thanks
[07:29] <heiths> I swear there wasn't any ms rooms last time I looked here on freenod
[07:30] <heiths> bah, its dead... I guess people don't like to talk about microsoft much
[07:30] <klobster> ok, so i went into .kde/apps/kaffeine/ and deleted the xine.conf and some other thing, but kaffeine is still crashing.
[07:31] <klobster> what is the command that lets me watch how a program loads and calls out?
[07:32] <heiths> verbose mode?
[07:32] <klobster> actually, I think it's a xine issue... gxine gives a segfault
[07:32] <heiths> what are you trying to play?
[07:32] <klobster> it's file agnostic
[07:33] <klobster> even dvd's die
[07:33] <klobster> oh yeah, strace
[07:33] <heiths> so it crashes before you attempt to play anything?
[07:34] <klobster> yup
[07:34] <heiths> compiled or binary install
[07:34] <HanzZ> how can i set focus on mainwindow which i show()
[07:34] <klobster> .deb
[07:34] <HanzZ> ?
[07:34] <HanzZ> klobster: ubuntu?
[07:34] <klobster> sorry, HanzZ not for you
[07:35] <klobster> HanzZ: show() ? what language please?
[07:35] <HanzZ> oh
[07:35] <HanzZ> sorry :) i'm in bad channel :)
[07:35] <HanzZ> i want to be in #qt :)
[07:36] <klobster> I thought as much
[07:38] <HanzZ> hm.. when i'm here.. i'm installed some packages from backports and i want to downgrade it to the normall feisty packages. can i do it somehow?
[07:38] <HanzZ> *i installed
[07:39] <klobster> yeah, remove backports from your server list, then open adept (or whatever) and choose reinstall
[07:39] <klobster> for those packages
[07:40] <Miltos> hi ppl:-) again... i've got a minor problem: "eject" cd rom works only when i type "sudo eject" in the bash, the right click asks for sudo preveleges...strange? any help?
[07:43] <Daisuke-Ido> it's mounting your cdrom as root.  why, i haven't a clue.  hope that gives you a place to start, i'm off to bed :\
[07:43] <heiths> add yourself to the cdrom group
[07:43] <heiths> daja vu
[08:05] <K`zan> I'm being told that cdrom0 is busy and gives a pid which doesn't exist, how can I unmount it without rebooting?  TIA!
[08:06] <K`zan> Can't even unmount it as root!
[08:07] <K`zan> Time for the BRS or a paperclip :-/.
[08:10] <jukebox_> buenos dias
[08:12] <powertool08> \list
[08:39] <conorkirkpatrick> Can anybody tell me where .xinitrc lives? (and not the one in my home folder)
[08:58] <Miltos> hi ppl:-) again... i've got a minor problem: "eject" cd rom works only when i type "sudo eject" in the bash, the right click asks for sudo preveleges...strange? any help?
[09:04] <sfire> Miltos: yep
[09:04] <Miltos> sfire: any solution?
[09:04] <sfire> you need to give yourself permission to do it in the fstab file
[09:05] <sfire> let me check on that file name
[09:05] <sfire> may not be fstab... just 1 moment
[09:05] <sfire> yep it is
[09:06] <sfire> this is my line
[09:06] <sfire> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[09:07] <sfire> I believe the word "user" is what allows it to be ejected and mounted by users
[09:07] <sfire> I've had to modify that file for hard drives before
[09:11] <Miltos> sfire: thanks...just a moment...
[09:16] <Yz85Racer> hey everyone, when I install the jdk of Java, how do I know if it worked?
[09:41] <purpleposeidon> what's a command to get stats like processer speed, amount of RAM....?
[09:42] <stephen> i think its sysinfo
[09:42] <stephen> but you need more than that
[09:42] <stephen> i think...
[09:42] <sfire> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:42] <sfire> cat /proc/meminfo
[09:42] <stephen> lol
[09:43] <stephen> almost
[09:43] <sfire> model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU         T5600  @ 1.83GHz
[09:44] <sfire> hehehehe
[09:44] <stephen> is that a good one?
[09:45] <stephen> i dunno
[09:45] <stephen> is it core duo?
[09:45] <sfire> core2duo
[09:46] <stephen> sfire do you have any clue how i could update alsa?
[09:46] <sfire> update?
[09:46] <stephen> no one is in #alsa
[09:46] <stephen> yes
[09:46] <sfire> how so?
[09:47] <stephen> in gutsy my sound works
[09:47] <stephen> in feisty it doesnt
[09:47] <stephen> gutsy has a codec for my ati ac97 driver
[09:48] <stephen> modprobe snd-atiixp model=ac97_codec=0
[09:48] <stephen> when i type that in on gutsy it enables my sound
[09:48] <sfire> ahh so you need the module for it
[09:48] <stephen> yes i think
[09:48] <stephen> :)
[09:49] <sfire> have you looked for snd-atiixp in the available software?
[09:49] <stephen> nope
[09:49] <stephen> lol
[09:49] <stephen> it pakage manager?
[09:50] <stephen> in*
[09:50] <kraut> moin
[09:50] <sfire> stefan: yea
[09:50] <stephen> stefan??? :O
[09:50] <sfire> I didn't actually look myself but you never know
[09:50] <sfire> oops stephen
[09:51] <sfire> if not http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?module=atiixp
[09:51] <sfire> that guide looks geared exactly for it
[09:53] <stephen> brb
[10:27] <ryjin> Hey folks
[10:27] <SlimeyPete> hi
[10:27] <ryjin> I am some what of a newb
[10:28] <ryjin> Can you help me with getting Limewire running?
[10:28] <pag> !limewire | ryjin
[10:28] <ubotu> ryjin: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[10:28] <ryjin> wow, thank you
[10:28] <ryjin> that was pretty fast
[10:29] <jlund> What is the best way to check disk integrity?
[10:29] <sepeda`Tua> wew
[10:29] <SlimeyPete> fsck
[10:29] <gesture> had anyone found a way to improve the performance (fps) for the ati graphical cards ?
[10:29] <sepeda`Tua> where i am?
[10:29] <SlimeyPete> sudo fsck /dev/<disk-device-name>
[10:30] <pag> sepeda`Tua, Kubuntu support channel
[10:30] <dude1> any women here wanna chat?
[10:31] <gesture> ^^
[10:31] <gesture> lol ?
[10:31] <pag> !coc | dude1
[10:31] <ubotu> dude1: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[10:31] <jlund> SlimeyPete: So theoretically will fsck let me know if I have a bad disk?
[10:31] <ryjin> Java runtime eviroment?
[10:31] <pag> ryjin, probably yes. I guess it's the only thing you need
[10:32] <SlimeyPete> jlund: should do
[10:32] <SlimeyPete> jlund: check "man fsck" for various option - you can control the level of checking, make it look for bad sectors etc
[10:32] <gesture> so , no one knows how to improve the frame rate in kubuntu (fps) for graphical design etc.
[10:32] <jlund> SlimeyPete: And I assume I must do this from a recovery console right?
[10:33] <pag> gesture, ATI cards can be really problematic... you could try installing closed ati drivers, but there's a slight chanse they'll mess your system up even more
[10:33] <SlimeyPete> jlund: it's usually best to do so if you are planning on checking your main disk
[10:34] <jlund> SlimeyPete: Thanks
[10:34] <x_link> Hi
[10:35] <x_link> I just installed Kubuntu.
[10:35] <x_link> Why can't I change channels with Alt+number?
[10:35] <pag> x_link, which client?
[10:36] <x_link> pag: Irssi.
[10:36] <x_link> This worked just fine before.
[10:36] <ryjin> for some reason java is not wanting to install
[10:37] <pag> x_link, and what terminal emulator are you using?
[10:37] <x_link> de]  has joined #debian
[10:37] <x_link> 10:33 -!- unknow990<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
[10:37] <x_link> pag: Konsole.
[10:37] <x_link> pag: This has alwats been working before.
[10:38] <pag> x_link, hmm... pretty strange then... works for me just fine... have you changed any settings in either of them lately?
[10:38] <pag> ryjin, does it give any error mesg?
[10:38] <x_link> pag: No
[10:39] <x_link> Damn this is really strange.
[10:39] <x_link> I can't work like this.
[10:39] <ryjin> no
[10:39] <ryjin> well
[10:39] <x_link> So it's not possible to change channel with Alt+number in kubuntu?
[10:39] <ryjin> If I didn't make it executable it says , the file is corrupt
[10:39] <TiMiDo> ryjin, what file is it?
[10:39] <pag> ryjin, what file? :P
[10:40] <pag> !java | ryjin
[10:40] <ubotu> ryjin: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[10:40] <TiMiDo> grrr
[10:40] <ryjin> the name of the file is
[10:41] <ryjin> j2re-1_4_2_15-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[10:41] <hilary> Hi, im going to sound really stupid (Im really new to Linux) But how do you change the screens resolution? lolz
[10:41] <pag> ryjin, just enable the Multiverse and install with adept / apt-get
[10:41] <TiMiDo> ryjin, chmod a+x j2re-1_4_2_15-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[10:41] <TiMiDo> then ./j2re-1_4_2_15-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[10:41] <TiMiDo> but just download the other file
[10:41] <TiMiDo> from java
[10:42] <pag> TiMiDo, is it really that smart to install from outside the repos?
[10:42] <TiMiDo> ryjin, get this one 	Linux (self-extracting file)  filesize: 18.22 MB
[10:42] <TiMiDo> pag, yeah. i do not see nothing wrong with that.
[10:43] <ryjin> alrighty
[10:45] <ryjin> I'm extremely tired so i might have to say it for tommorow
[10:45] <pag> TiMiDo and ryjin; it's of course up to you, but I'd really suggest not to install anything from outside the repos, especially when the newest version is in there
[10:47] <TiMiDo> pag, .. says who?
[10:47] <ryjin> Good night folks, I'll do this tommorow when I'm fully awake and functional
[10:47] <Lynoure> TiMiDo: common sense?
[10:48] <TiMiDo> hmm okey
[10:59] <ma> hallo
[11:00] <runlevelten> hello ma
[11:01] <ma> Hallo run... first time here in irc.....
[11:38] <praecox> hey guys
[11:38] <praecox> how am I suppose to permanently change ulimit -n for specified user?
[11:55] <ardchoille> !coc
[11:55] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[12:00] <MidMark> hi guys someone else has big problems with qt 4.3 released for feisty-backports?
[12:01] <MidMark> I have a lot of visual problems with skype 1.4 for example
[12:04] <OlliK> Hi, all!
[12:04] <SlimeyPete> hi
[12:06] <OlliK> Can someone help me with upgrading? I'd like to update few packages, and I used to have this adept-updater on which I closed and can't find anymore (it's different from adept manager). Anyway, now when I plan to update all packages to newest version, I noticed that I can also probably do it in Adept Manager, but there are two options: "Safe Upgrade" and "Full Upgrade". Can someone tell me the difference? I didn't find anything from google/ubuntuforums and al
[12:07] <OlliK> I'm using Feisty so I'm not upgrading to a newer version, I only want to get the latest versions of the software
[12:10] <OlliK> If no one knows the difference, also helpful would be if someone could help me to find a way to start this "adept updater" program
[12:17] <Haus> sup hoes
[12:18] <liebeloca> hola
[12:18] <liebeloca> :-)
[12:19] <liebeloca> halloo...
[12:19] <liebeloca> ??
[12:20] <Haus> :)
[12:21] <liebeloca> :-)
[12:21] <liebeloca> haallo haus
[12:22] <Haus> :P
[12:22] <liebeloca> ??
[12:28] <Ind[y] > Although "Update Notifier" is enabled to run at the start of the session, it does not display me the updates. I have to manually run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" in order to update my software. Why? I mean, it does not appear an orange box at the system tray when there are updates available, so I can click on it and update-manager will start.
[12:30] <Jjohn> Ind[y] , happens for me like that too dont know the answer thugh :(
[12:30] <Jjohn> though
[12:30] <Ind[y] > Jjohn: :-(
[12:30] <Ind[y] > Maybe we should report it as a bug at launchpad.
[12:31] <Jjohn> Ind[y] , Maybe   BTW if you do dist-upgrade  it is a bit smarter than upgrade
[12:32] <Ind[y] > Jjohn: why?
[12:32] <Jjohn> Ind[y] , Not sure that is what I read in "ubuntu unleashed" so I do it that way now
[12:33] <Ind[y] > Jjohn: ok :P
[12:46] <Dufresn3> anyone uses wengophone?
[12:47] <Dufresn3> query me
[12:47] <Dufresn3> ...please!
[12:48] <Miltos> my cd rom ejects only when i type "sudo eject", the right click doen't work...any solution?
[12:49] <Lynoure> Miltos: usually it's a matter of the cd being read by something, e.g. user being on the path
[12:49] <Lynoure> Miltos: but I'm not on kubuntu at the moment, so I cannot check and compare
[12:49] <Miltos> Lymoure: i've checked the fstab and seem Okey...
[12:50] <Lynoure> Miltos: what about  lsof | grep cdrom  ?
[12:50] <FSHero> Hi all: In KMix, I see two bars on the output tab: "PCM" and "PC speaker".
[12:50] <FSHero> I want PCM to be the 'default'... but when I single-click KMix's icon and drag the slider, it changes the PC Speaker (which is useless).
[12:50] <Miltos> Lymoure: just a minute
[12:52] <Miltos> Lynoure: nothing happens...
[12:54] <Dufresn3> anyone uses wengophone? query me please
[12:55] <svq41> nick eem24
[12:55] <emm24> exit
[01:05] <Haus> what do you use to play *.wma files?
[01:05] <stephen> !wma
[01:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:06] <Haus> wtf? i have these files in wma!! i dont give a shit about ogg or anything else
[01:06] <Haus> ogg theora
[01:06] <stephen> !language
[01:06] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:06] <Haus> omg
[01:06] <stephen> lol
[01:06] <Haus> yeye
[01:07] <Haus> u and your !! ! ! !
[01:07] <runlevelten> What a fool.
[01:07] <stephen> me a fool?
[01:07] <runlevelten> Of course not :P
[01:08] <Haus> runlevelten ofcourse you are a fool. you dont contribute shit
[01:09] <runlevelten> Oh, don't I?
[01:09] <runlevelten> haha
[01:09] <Haus> i love these hoes who come from nowhere and act all einstein and stuff
[01:11] <runlevelten> Well, I'm sure you're a contributive chap. We must compare patch activity some time. For now though, let's go back to our respective tasks.
[01:11] <runlevelten> For me, that will be fixing bugs today. For you, oh, I don't know, watching sport?
[01:11] <runlevelten> thanks for the kind words ;)
[01:11] <Haus> runlevelten lol u sound like a porno bot
[01:11] <Haus> :)
[01:12] <amdiak> Morning
[01:12] <Lynoure> Haus: ?
[01:13] <amdiak> how can I join the french chainnel?
[01:13] <Haus> Lynoure do you need medication aswell?
[01:13] <Lynoure> Haus: !ops
[01:13] <Lynoure> oops :)
[01:14] <Lynoure> !ops | Haus
[01:14] <ubotu> Haus: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[01:14] <Hobbsee> Haus:
[01:14] <Hobbsee> dont be a pain
[01:14] <amdiak> Haus can you help me to join a french channel?
[01:14] <Hobbsee> amdiak: type /join #kubuntu-es
[01:14] <meuhlol> amdiak: /join #kubuntu-fr
[01:15] <meuhlol> Hobbsee: he ask for french not for spanish xD
[01:15] <runlevelten> Gah :@
[01:15] <stephen> lol
[01:15] <meuhlol> !fr | amdiak
[01:15] <ubotu> amdiak: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:15] <Hobbsee> er...oops
[01:15] <Hobbsee> brain is a bit shattered
[01:15] <meuhlol> ahahaha
[01:15] <shad-99> Hi
[01:15] <Hobbsee> and i've been to spain recently, so...
[01:15] <meuhlol> ehehehe ;)
[01:16] <shad-99> Any one knows why my login screen won't show?
[01:16] <amdiak> thanks
[01:16] <runlevelten> Someone has been spreading their stupid sauce everywhere, closing bugs willy nilly :(
[01:17] <shad-99> i have a webserver apache2 and it works but when i restart it i can't manage to get to login screen?
[01:17] <eborges> oi
[01:17] <shad-99> Pls some help me?
[01:17] <runlevelten> what, an ssh login or something shad-99?
[01:18] <shad-99> me?
[01:18] <eborges> this is a web chat online??
[01:18] <Lynoure> eborges: this is a support channel
[01:18] <eborges> good
[01:18] <Hobbsee> eborges: basically.
[01:18] <Lynoure> eborges: the chat channels are #ubuntu-offtopic and #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:19] <runlevelten> shad-99: are you saying that when you restart your webserver your ssh doesn't start?
[01:19] <runlevelten> *sshd
[01:19] <shad-99> everything starts
[01:19] <eborges> the support channel is a good idea to me
[01:19] <shad-99> but i can't get to login screen
[01:19] <vbanait> hi
[01:19] <runlevelten> what login screen are you trying to get to?
[01:19] <runlevelten> what, the GUI thing?
[01:19] <vbanait> i am installing kubuntu. some issues with network.
[01:19] <vbanait> pl help
[01:19] <shad-99> the normal kubuntu dapper login screen
[01:19] <stephen> vbanait try to enable the ethernet
[01:20] <stephen> ifconfig eth0 up
[01:20] <shad-99> it shows the loadin bar but that's it?
[01:20] <eborges> somebody knows a todo list to Ubuntu?
[01:20] <vbanait> installer identifies firewall card, but not network card. both are same
[01:20] <eborges> I use to-do list from Kontact
[01:20] <Lynoure> eborges: I use Basket for mine, but there are other apps as well.
[01:20] <stephen> sudo dpclient eth0 i think
[01:20] <vbanait> network area donot show ethernet
[01:21] <stephen> oh
[01:21] <vbanait> stephen: pl hlp
[01:21] <eborges> Lynoure... thanks I will try
[01:22] <stephen> go to sytem settings and then network setting check whether your card is found
[01:22] <vbanait> I did lspci. It identifies the hardware. i am chatting using same hardware on windows
[01:23] <runlevelten> shad-99: can you get at the logs?
[01:23] <vbanait> even the live cd fails to detect the network (wired network0
[01:23] <shad-99> how to do that?
[01:23] <shad-99> Im stupid newbie ;)
[01:25] <vbanait> Stephen: i had to install windows as network card was not identified by ubuntu and kubuntu. Do you think other linux distros will help
[01:25] <shad-99> i manage to run a ssl apache2 server and it works great..  -But i turned it of yesterday.. and now i can't to login.. cos login screen seems to hang?
[01:26] <vbanait> Stephen; r u there
[01:26] <stephen> vbanait i dunno what to do
[01:26] <meuhlol> after Feisty Fawn, what distro will be (what name?) and for what date is?
[01:26] <stephen> ive only had linux for 4 days
[01:26] <stephen> gutsy and october 2007
[01:26] <stephen> gutsy something
[01:26] <stephen> i cant remember
[01:27] <vbanait> oh. i am senior to you in this respect
[01:27] <vbanait> 8 days
[01:27] <meuhlol> Gutsy Gibbon Tribe 2 actually, second alpha lol
[01:27] <vbanait> :-D
[01:27] <stephen> its 7.10 too
[01:28] <meuhlol> yep
[01:28] <stephen> im running the tribe 2 cd now
[01:28] <stephen> lol
[01:28] <meuhlol> need to know what changes it would be ;)
[01:28] <stephen> well its a lot better
[01:28] <vbanait> what is tribe 2
[01:28] <stephen> there is a better tar.gz pakage installer
[01:29] <meuhlol> vbanait: tribe 2 is the second alpha version of (K)ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon (so 7.10)
[01:29] <stephen> in kubuntu there is finally a resolution gui
[01:29] <vbanait> alpha version. means lots of bugs isnt it
[01:29] <meuhlol> stephen: you test Gutsy Gibbon now? So what's changes you see?
[01:29] <meuhlol> vbanait: yes :)
[01:30] <vbanait> my god. you people have great courage
[01:30] <meuhlol> vbanait: last stable is Feisty Fawn :)
[01:30] <vbanait> i tried it with network card remaining undetected
[01:30] <meuhlol> i'm on :) but wanna be in courses for Gutsy Gibbon :D
[01:30] <meuhlol> vbanait: you ethernet card is not detected?
[01:31] <vbanait> yes. it is not detected
[01:31] <vbanait> installer identifies firewall card but not eth card
[01:31] <vbanait> O:-)
[01:31] <meuhlol> vbanait: what is mark & model of your card?
[01:32] <vbanait> i AM on windows machine now. dual boot. pirated windows
[01:32] <stephen> meuhlol: there is a new package manager, Xterm, UXterm a partition manager built in
[01:32] <stephen> vbanait: how did you set up a dual boot?
[01:32] <vbanait> Chinghou microelectronics Inc
[01:33] <vbanait> install windows first and then ubuntu
[01:34] <meuhlol> vbanait: try lspci under konsole when you are on nux
[01:34] <vbanait> i did. it identifies card
[01:35] <vbanait> but network donot show it
[01:35] <meuhlol> vbanait: also you can try this: http://hardinfo.berlios.de/web/HomePage
[01:36] <meuhlol> after you can google it for "howto" install your card drivers
[01:36] <vbanait> Realtek RTL8139 PCI fast Ethernet Adapter Properties
[01:37] <stephen> i have that
[01:37] <stephen> it works fine
[01:37] <stephen> reinstall kubuntu
[01:37] <vbanait> did thrice
[01:37] <stephen> i was having problems with it too
[01:37] <stephen> ok
[01:37] <vbanait> how did you sort it out
[01:37] <stephen> try ifconfig eth0 in terminal
[01:37] <vbanait> ok
[01:37] <stephen> the sudo dpclient eth0
[01:37] <vbanait> then
[01:38] <stephen> then sudo dpclient eth0
[01:38] <vbanait> ok
[01:38] <stephen> does it work?
[01:39] <vbanait> i will have to boot out of windows and login again on linux
[01:39] <stephen> lol
[01:39] <vbanait> :-D
[01:39] <meuhlol> vbanait: i found it for you: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=14&PFid=6&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
[01:39] <stephen> ill brb
[01:39] <stephen> booting into feisty
[01:39] <stephen> lol
[01:40] <meuhlol> vbanait: just follow the link that i gave you... d/l drivers, install & be happy :p
[01:40] <vbanait> thanks
[01:40] <meuhlol> you're welcome :)
[01:41] <vbanait>  Linux driver (driver has built-in the kernel) N/A 2007/3/12 0k - -
[01:41] <eddyspagetty> hi, is it possible with a script to in/decrease the mastervolume about 5% ?
[01:41] <vbanait> is the massage
[01:42] <stephen> right back
[01:43] <vbanait> meuhlol: linux drivers not avilable
[01:44] <vbanait> :-(
[01:44] <meuhlol> hein?
[01:45] <meuhlol> try packet driver vbanait :)
[01:45] <vbanait> okay
[01:45] <vbanait> how do i install them
[01:46] <vbanait> Are they for linux
[01:46] <vbanait> there is a exe file
[01:46] <meuhlol> read "readme.txt" joined into...
[01:46] <meuhlol> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa oO
[01:46] <meuhlol> wait
[01:51] <vbanait> meuhlol: ?
[01:51] <meuhlol> vbanait: re
[01:52] <meuhlol> vbanait: try this in terminal "ls /lib/modules/*/kernel/drivers/net/ | grep 8139too" (without " & replace * by your kernel version)
[01:53] <vbanait> i have fiesty fawn
[01:53] <vbanait> what kernel version
[01:53] <meuhlol> vbanait: or you do that: ifdown eth0
[01:54] <meuhlol> after modprobe -r 8139too
[01:54] <meuhlol> after: modprobe 8139too
[01:54] <meuhlol> after: ifup eth0
[01:55] <vbanait> okay i try it and will be back thanx
[01:56] <meuhlol> and try to add to /etc/network/interfaces this lines:
[01:56] <meuhlol> auto eth0
[01:56] <meuhlol> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[01:57] <meuhlol> and on ubuntu you have: gksudo network-admin
[01:59] <stangi> Hi @ all
[02:00] <meuhlol> hi
[02:00] <stangi> someone her who speak german?! I`am a N00b in English and Linux :/
[02:01] <god> Hello all, is there anyone out there who could give me a hand with my new kunbuntu install, i need to get my ATI drivers up and runing ( newbie )
[02:02] <meuhlol> !de | stangi
[02:02] <ubotu> stangi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:02] <stangi> thx :)
[02:02] <progreSS> hi ALL
[02:02] <meuhlol> !ati | god
[02:02] <ubotu> god: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:02] <god> thank you very muchly
[02:03] <progreSS> hey people...
[02:03] <meuhlol> stangi: i don't speak deutch, just know how to say "kleine sweine" "hitler kaput" "dunken" xD
[02:03] <progreSS> are there any JAVA programmers in here???
[02:03] <dasnipa> everyone bow in my presence, I just ordered my new license plates... and I managed to get 'KUBUNTU'
[02:03] <meuhlol> !java | progreSS
[02:03] <ubotu> progreSS: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[02:04] <meuhlol> ops :s
 what??
 well.. i guess you are a bot ))
[02:04] <meuhlol> !ubotu | progreSS
[02:04] <ubotu> progreSS: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:04] <dasnipa> !bot
[02:04] <dasnipa> erm ya
[02:04] <progreSS>
[02:04] <progreSS>
[02:04] <FSHero> !Multiverse
[02:04] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:04] <progreSS> ))
[02:04] <meuhlol> progreSS: it's an bot :p but you are at kubuntu support forum xD
 are you a bot as well? )
[02:05] <meuhlol> progreSS: no! me im real :p
[02:05] <progreSS> =)
[02:05] <progreSS> nice
 so i need you help, please )
 do you know any programmers' channels?? pleeease
[02:06] <meuhlol> I know an bot, she's name is Anna  Basshunter xD
[02:06] <progreSS> =)
[02:06] <meuhlol> progreSS: just do /list ;)
[02:06] <progreSS> no... there's a huuuge list..
[02:06] <progreSS> =)
[02:06] <progreSS> and it downloads for about an hour ))
[02:07] <meuhlol> progreSS: you will se a list of all available channels here, so if they are one in this network for programmers... i dunno... i stopped programming some years :)
[02:07] <progreSS> =)
[02:07] <meuhlol> progreSS: /join #java
 ok, thanks man
[02:07] <progreSS> oh
[02:07] <progreSS> really?
[02:07] <progreSS> THANKS!!
[02:07] <progreSS> =)
[02:08] <meuhlol> http://www.javachannel.net/
[02:08] <meuhlol> :)
[02:08] <progreSS> damn
[02:08] <progreSS> it says..
[02:08] <meuhlol> xD
[02:08] <progreSS> [17:07]  [Channel]  You need to be identified to join that channel
[02:08] <progreSS> =(
[02:08] <meuhlol> so /msg NickServ REGISTER <yourpass> :)
[02:09] <progreSS> oh, just a sec
[02:09] <progreSS> =)
[02:09] <progreSS> let me try
[02:09] <progreSS> )
[02:09] <meuhlol> progreSS: after /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <yourpass>
[02:09] <gir22222> Help, i'm using kubuntu 7.04. Where is the restricted devices manager located?
[02:09] <progreSS> [17:09]  [Notice]  -NickServ- The nickname [progress]  is already registered
[02:09] <meuhlol> and after /join #java
[02:09] <meuhlol> xD
[02:09] <progreSS> (((
[02:09] <meuhlol> ahahaha
[02:09] <progreSS> let me chose another nickname..
[02:09] <progreSS> =)
[02:09] <progreSS> *choose
[02:09] <meuhlol> so: /nick progreSS1
[02:09] <meuhlol> xD
[02:10] <prog> damn
[02:10] <meuhlol> :)
[02:10] <prog> it's also registered )
[02:10] <progreSSive> =)
[02:10] <meuhlol> lol /nick Boten Anna xD
[02:11] <meuhlol> or /nick UnregisteredJavaProgrammer :D
[02:11] <progreSSive> )))))
[02:11] <progreSSive> lol
[02:11] <progreSSive> nice
[02:11] <progreSSive> =)
[02:12] <meuhlol> you're welcome ;)
[02:12] <progreSSive> thanks man :)
[02:12] <progreSSive> well now.. let me join the channel.
[02:12] <progreSSive> oh, here i go!
[02:12] <progreSSive> ))
[02:12] <gir22222> Anyone? where is the restricted devices manager located?
 thanks man! appreciate!
[02:13] <progreSSive> =)
[02:13] <meuhlol> gir22222: not under Kubuntu :)
[02:13] <gir22222> ah it doesnt have it, ok thanks
[02:13] <meuhlol> gir22222: what you need from restricted manager?
[02:13] <gir22222> install nvidia drivers
[02:13] <meuhlol> gir22222: what is your nvidia model?
[02:13] <gir22222> i downloaded and ran as they say, but X exits with an error loading the module
[02:14] <meuhlol> progreSSive: package my.brain.cs;
[02:14] <gir22222> geforce2 mx400
[02:14] <meuhlol> import my.brain; do xD
[02:14] <meuhlol> gir22222: wait
[02:14] <meuhlol> gir22222: lspci | grep VGA
[02:15] <gir22222> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]  (rev b2)
[02:15] <meuhlol> gir22222: before installing drivers do that in konsole: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.backup
[02:16] <meuhlol> gir22222: after, also in konsole tape that:
[02:16] <meuhlol> sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-xconfig nvidia-settings
[02:16] <meuhlol> sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[02:16] <meuhlol> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[02:17] <gir22222> meuhlol: yeah its done. the problem is after installing them, X doesnt run, and I get stuck, so I need to take the old xorg.conf back again, and reboot, because X gets stuck. I don't know how to rerun it when it has failed. you know it?
 what?
[02:17] <meuhlol> gir22222: after press [Ctrl] +[Alt] +[<--]  (backspace)
[02:17] <gir22222> meuhlol: thats for when its running... but its not running, just black screen with blinking cursor
[02:18] <gir22222> meuhlol: i tried init 1, and then 2, but that kubuntu splash appears and I can't see any console anymore
[02:19] <shad-99_> After rebooting dapper drake i can't get to login screen.. otherwise it works with web server and shit?
[02:19] <meuhlol> re all
[02:19] <meuhlol> gir22222: yes
[02:19] <shad-99_> any one knows about this bug or what ever it is causing it?
[02:19] <meuhlol> gir22222: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:20] <meuhlol> boot your PC, after at booting press ESC (escape) to be in Grub menu
[02:20] <meuhlol> gir22222: once in GRUB menu choose Recovery Mode
[02:20] <gir22222> meuhlol: linux-restricted-modules didnt download anything
[02:21] <meuhlol> gir22222: in recovery Mode (console) tape sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:21] <meuhlol> to restore your xorg.conf backup
[02:21] <meuhlol> after boot in normal mode
[02:21] <gir22222> meuhlol: is that right, aptitude didnt get the restricted modules.
[02:22] <meuhlol> what version of kubuntu you have gir22222?
[02:22] <meuhlol> or try the same but replace "aptitude" by "apt-get"
[02:22] <gir22222> meuhlol: An another anooying thing here... Kde puts 1280 resolution on monitor, I want it 1024, so I change it on sys settings. After that, restarting X gives me 640! so I have to cp the original xorg.conf so it can return to 1280.
[02:23] <gir22222> meuhlol: now it said is already installed, wtih apt-get
[02:23] <gir22222> ok let me try it
[02:24] <meuhlol> gir22222: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-legacy etc
[02:24] <meuhlol> gir22222: listen
[02:24] <meuhlol> boot in recovery console mode
[02:24] <meuhlol> rofl
 xaxa )))
[02:28] <meuhlol> progreSSive: have an another question about nux? :)
[02:30] <progreSSive> meuhlol: not yet :)
[02:30] <progreSSive> meuhlol: thanks man, appreciate!
[02:32] <meuhlol> progreSSive: you are always welcome :p /me sing a song: I know an bot, she's name is Anna... tatatata xD
[02:33] <progreSSive> meuhlol: btw, who's Anns?? =)
[02:34] <meuhlol> progreSSive: if you want to know, get an tour to youtube.com and tape: Basshunter - Boten Anna in a search fields :p
[02:35] <StoneNewt> why can't I change the kdm login screen from the kubuntu default?
[02:36] <meuhlol> progreSSive: it's an dude 23 years old who make this tube in FL Studio (i'm also music composer :p) and this dude sing in his song: I know an bot, she's name is Anna, she can kick & ban you, blah blah... really stupod words in the song, but the music is eurodanse style, and good rythm :p
[02:36] <StoneNewt> I've changed in in the settings but once kdm is fully loaded it flashes to the kubuntu screen and then onyl goes to the config I've chosen AFTER I log in
[02:36] <meuhlol> StoneNewt: how do you try do the change?
[02:37] <StoneNewt> in the "system settings" app
[02:37] <meuhlol> StoneNewt: try to do that by this way: open up a terminal & write that: sudo systemsettings -caption "%c" %i %m (follow by your super user pass)
[02:37] <progreSSive> meuhlol: =) let me find it..
[02:38] <gir2222> meuhlol: didnt work. xorg log tells me: Failed to load NVIDIA kernel module!
[02:38] <gir2222> meuhlol: which is strange since I used to have another distro here, and the nvidia drivers from nvidia website worked. but not with kubuntu now
[02:38] <meuhlol> gir2222: you leaved channel before i finish :s
[02:39] <gir2222> meuhlol: ah sorry
[02:39] <StoneNewt> "unexpected argument %i
[02:39] <meuhlol> gir2222: listen please (i will make an notice: [finish]  when i will finish, ok?)
[02:39] <gir2222> ok
[02:39] <meuhlol> before all
[02:40] <meuhlol> take care of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[02:40] <meuhlol> the first one
[02:41] <gir2222> meuhlol: you mean keep it?
[02:41] <meuhlol> after: restore your first backup xorg.conf
[02:41] <meuhlol> after that do an: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-xconfig nvidia-settings
[02:42] <meuhlol> do sudo apt-get remove for all nvidia concerning files
[02:42] <meuhlol> after that
[02:42] <StoneNewt> meuhlol: if I drop the caption part it works and I have all my settings I ask for and see for a split second before the kubuntu login screen is revealed
[02:42] <meuhlol> reboot your Xorg server by pressing ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:43] <meuhlol> gir2222: after all that open up an console and tape that:
[02:43] <meuhlol> sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-xconfig nvidia-settings
[02:43] <meuhlol> sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[02:43] <meuhlol> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[02:44] <meuhlol> gir2222: after that do an: sudo nvidia-settings
[02:44] <meuhlol> gir2222: manage your params and reboot Xorg
[02:44] <meuhlol> this should be helpful for you
[02:45] <meuhlol> if you don't see a Nvidia logo at startup do that: sudo nvidia-xconfig --logo
[02:46] <meuhlol> and
[02:46] <meuhlol> gir2222: after installing drivers do that before reboot: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[02:46] <meuhlol> that's all i [finish]
[02:46] <gir2222> meuhlol: after nvidia-settings ?
[02:46] <meuhlol> after installing gir2222
[02:47] <gir2222> the last thing is nvidia-xconfig. ok
[02:47] <meuhlol> [14:42]  <meuhlol> sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-xconfig nvidia-settings
[02:47] <meuhlol> [14:42]  <meuhlol> sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[02:47] <meuhlol> [14:42]  <meuhlol> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[02:47] <meuhlol> after that you reboot
[02:47] <meuhlol> and do: sudo nvidia-settings
[02:47] <meuhlol> that's all :)
[02:47] <gir2222> ah right
[02:48] <gir2222> meuhlol: thanks, gonna try it
[02:48] <gir2222> leaving
[02:49] <meuhlol> gir2222: see ya faster :p
[02:49] <StoneNewt> meuhlol: any ideas how to get the log in box to hold to my options?
[02:49] <meuhlol> huh
[02:50] <meuhlol> what i told you before, don't works?
[02:50] <StoneNewt> nope
[02:50] <meuhlol> don't work at all?
[02:50] <progreSSive> meuhlol: xaxaxa cool music )))
[02:50] <meuhlol> !logon
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <StoneNewt> I see my kdm settings for a split second then the kubuntu screen overwrites them
[02:50] <meuhlol> !login screen
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about login screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <Hugs70> Hello world
[02:50] <progreSSive> hi
[02:51] <Hugs70> Am I the only one from France
[02:51] <progreSSive> meuhlol: anna, anna bot... blya blya blya
[02:51] <progreSSive> ))
[02:51] <progreSSive> Hugs70: congrats ))
[02:51] <Hugs70> sorry that was a question !
[02:52] <meuhlol> Hugs70: salut :)
[02:52] <meuhlol> !fr | Hugs70
[02:52] <ubotu> Hugs70: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:52] <meuhlol> xD
[02:53] <Hugs70> thanks ubotu are u french ?
[02:53] <meuhlol> Hugs70: ubotu is an bot (c'est un bot lol)
[02:53] <meuhlol> Hugs70: va sur kubuntu-fr
[02:53] <meuhlol> Hugs70:  /join #kubuntu-fr
[02:53] <Hugs70> meuhlol  u speak english ? it is not a problem for me
[02:54] <meuhlol> Hugs70: if you want to know: i'm russian, but i live in france, and i speak: russian, french & english, so xD
[02:55] <progreSSive> meuhlol: wow, respect man!
[02:55] <meuhlol> Hugs70: but if you want to speak in french and have support in french so join #kubuntu-fr channel. Here (at #kubuntu) we speak only english :)
[02:55] <progreSSive> meuhlol: you know russian?! ))
[02:55] <Hugs70> Spassiba meuhlol
[02:55] <meuhlol> progreSSive: yes, im russian xD
[02:55] <progreSSive> meuhlol:  ))
[02:55] <meuhlol> progreSSive:  )) lol
[02:55] <progreSSive> meuhlol:  ! ))
[02:55] <Hugs70> moi ossi parle russe, english, french
[02:56] <meuhlol> progreSSive: don't write in cyrillic, don't see what you write, see only  ))
[02:56] <progreSSive> meuhlol: =) okay
[02:56] <progreSSive> meuhlol: so, what are you doing in france??
[02:57] <progreSSive> )
[02:57] <meuhlol> progreSSive: i live in :p (9 years already)
[02:57] <meuhlol> progreSSive: ti russkiy chto li?
[02:58] <progreSSive> nu.. ne sovsem russkiy konechno
[02:58] <progreSSive> =)
[02:58] <meuhlol> ahahahahaha
[02:58] <progreSSive> no russkiy znayu ne ploxo )))
[02:58] <meuhlol> hohol? xD
[02:59] <progreSSive> neeet
[02:59] <progreSSive> _
[02:59] <progreSSive> =)
[02:59] <progreSSive> xuje
[02:59] <progreSSive> )))))
[02:59] <praecox> o boze, tylko nie po rusku...
[02:59] <arun> I can't believe I'm asking this, but is there any way to arrange files in groups in Konqueror?
[02:59] <arun> As in one cluster of image files, one cluster of text files, etc
[02:59] <arun> In the same folder
[03:00] <meuhlol> arun: what?
[03:00] <meuhlol> ahahahaha a ya tatrus (mat tatarka a otets russkiy :p)
[03:01] <meuhlol> kakoy mir malenkiy hahaha vse russkoyazichnie uzhe v linuxe, a pridurki frantsuzi v vista xD ahahaha ya seychas obossus ot mseha:p
[03:01] <arun> meuhlol: Like in Windows, you can arrange files in groups?
[03:01] <progreSSive> =)
[03:01] <arun> according to their type
[03:01] <meuhlol> sure arun
[03:01] <progreSSive> xaxaxaxa
[03:01] <progreSSive> loooool
[03:01] <progreSSive> ))))))))))))
[03:01] <progreSSive> padstalom
[03:01] <meuhlol> aga xD
[03:02] <arun> meuhlol: how do i do that?
[03:02] <arun> i dont mean a simple 'sort by type'
[03:03] <gir2222> meuhlol: apparently it worked but now I'm in a very low resolution and can't raise it
[03:04] <gir2222> meuhlol: also where do I disable programs from running where kde starts?
[03:04] <gir2222> where do I disable programs from running when kde starts?
[03:05] <arun> gir222: system settings
[03:05] <gir2222> arun: where there?
[03:05] <arun> system settings > advanced > session manager
[03:06] <gir2222> arun: dont see the programs there. you mean write the names of the programs there? or empty session?
[03:08] <arun> gir222: you want to disable all programs from running when kde starts, right?
[03:08] <arun> so, in the 'On Login' section, select 'Start with an empty session'
[03:09] <arun> if you want to select specific programs go to System settings > Advanced > Service manager
[03:10] <arun> did you get my messages gir222
[03:10] <gir2222> arun: no sorry, what was it?
[03:11] <arun> gir2222: you want to disable all programs from running when kde starts, right?
[03:11] <arun> so, in the 'On Login' section, select 'Start with an empty session'
[03:11] <arun> if you want to select specific programs go to System settings > Advanced > Service manager
[03:11] <gir2222> arun: no not all, just a couple
[03:11] <arun> then go to service manager
[03:12] <gir2222> arun: they didn't ran, but after I opened them for the first time they run everytime and they have no settings for that on them
[03:12] <meuhlol> re all
[03:13] <meuhlol> so... people re-answer your problems, cus' i was at phone and don't read your problems
[03:13] <gir2222> arun: no they're not there
[03:13] <arun> which programs
[03:13] <meuhlol> gir2222: what after restart?
[03:13] <gir2222> meuhlol: nvidia probably worked, but now im on very low resolution
[03:13] <gir2222> meuhlol: and cant change it
[03:14] <gir2222> meuhlol: actually I can change it to even lower ones
[03:14] <meuhlol> gir2222: can you do sudo nvidia-settings ?
[03:14] <gir2222> arun: konversation, kopete, so far
[03:14] <gir2222> meuhlol: yes
[03:14] <gir2222> meuhlol: but theres almost nothing there
[03:14] <meuhlol> gir2222: and when you click at "roll down" menu of resolution select, what you see?
[03:15] <arun> gir2222: if you go to session manager and select 'start with an empty session' those programs wont open
[03:15] <arun> just select that option
[03:15] <gir2222> arun: hmm ok then thanks
[03:15] <arun> your other services will run properly
[03:15] <gir2222> meuhlol: theres no roll down menu on nvidia settings window
[03:16] <meuhlol> gir2222: open an terminal and write that: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[03:16] <meuhlol> gir2222: what it says?
[03:16] <gir2222> meuhlol: i read on some forum that nvidia-glx improperly detected modelines, to add use edid false on conf, but didnt help
[03:17] <gir2222> meuhlol: it just backs up conf and writes a new one
[03:17] <meuhlol> ok, after that write this: sudo nvidia-settings
[03:17] <gir2222> nothing
[03:17] <gir2222> same window
[03:17] <meuhlol> okey an window is opened, right?
[03:17] <gir2222> yes
[03:18] <meuhlol> go to X Server Screen Configuration at your left
[03:18] <gir2222> there no option like that
[03:18] <meuhlol> wait
[03:18] <gir2222> just a blank white box, just written nvidia-settings configuration on top
[03:19] <meuhlol> gir2222: did you see something like that after sudo nvidia-settings? : http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/5598/loljx6.png
[03:19] <gir2222> meuhlol: oh and when I run nvidia-settings I get some errors and fails on konsole
[03:20] <meuhlol> gir2222: something like:
[03:20] <meuhlol> ERROR: Error parsing configuration file '/home/ziko/.nvidia-settings-rc' on
[03:20] <meuhlol>        line 35: '0/RedBrightness=0.000000' (Trailing garbage).
[03:20] <meuhlol> ?
[03:20] <gir2222> meuhlol: no not like that at all the screen
[03:20] <meuhlol> gir2222: don't good installation of drivers
[03:20] <gir2222> meuhlol: ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension version 1.6 is too old; the minimimum required version is 1.9
[03:21] <gir2222> meuhlol: ERROR: Unable to determine number of NVIDIA GPUs on ':0.0'.
[03:21] <gir2222> etc
[03:21] <gir2222> meuhlol: but when I restarted X I did see for a sec the nvidia logo
[03:21] <meuhlol> you must to sudo apt-get remove all nvidia concerning files like nvidia-glx etc
[03:22] <gir2222> meuhlol: all? which are all? the same as before?
[03:22] <meuhlol> gir2222: all that you instaled
[03:22] <gir2222> and after reboot?
[03:22] <meuhlol> did you have AMD64 or not?
[03:22] <gir2222> no
[03:22] <gir2222> 32 it is
[03:22] <meuhlol> after removing, reinstalling drivers
[03:23] <meuhlol> gir2222: okey, try that
[03:23] <meuhlol> first DL this: http://www.nvidia.fr/content/license/driver_license.asp?language=fr&url=http://fr.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run
[03:23] <meuhlol> after do that: sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run
[03:24] <meuhlol> for exemple DL a .run file to /home/yourusername directory, after open an terminal and do "cd /home/yourusername"
[03:24] <meuhlol> after sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run
[03:24] <gir2222> meuhlol: file not found he
[03:25] <meuhlol> and read that: http://fr.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/HTML/chapter-03.html
[03:25] <gir2222> in french hee
[03:26] <gir2222> it has to be 9755?
[03:26] <meuhlol> no
[03:26] <gir2222> im downloading it
[03:26] <gir2222> but I have here
[03:26] <meuhlol> the page is in english
[03:26] <gir2222> 9639
[03:26] <gir2222> and 7185
[03:26] <gir2222> and I tried both of them, no success
[03:27] <gir2222> meuhlol: its in french here, see the url starts with fr
[03:27] <meuhlol> yeah i know that the uri is starting with .fr
[03:27] <meuhlol> but the text at page is in english :s
[03:27] <meuhlol> lol
[03:28] <micman> hello superkiddo r u there?
[03:29] <gir2222> meuhlol: when I tried running the drivers from nvidia site... it installs ok, but then X wont run, and xorg tells failed nvidia kernel module
[03:29] <micman>  i have an open question.
[03:31] <meuhlol> gir2222: hmm sorry, i've told you all what I know :s
[03:33] <gir2222> meuhlol: so you know how to disable certain programs from opening at startup on kde?
[03:33] <gir2222> gir2222: like konversation, it just started running at startup after I first ran it
[03:33] <gir2222> meuhlol:  like konversation, it just started running at startup after I first ran it
[03:34] <meuhlol> gir2222: sudo systemsettings
[03:34] <meuhlol> gir2222: after go to Advanced configs tab
[03:35] <meuhlol> after search for Applications & Services something like that (iml on french kubuntu so)
[03:35] <meuhlol> and after you have an list of processuses running at load
[03:35] <meuhlol> you deactivate what u want
[03:35] <blob_ster> G'day
[03:36] <gir2222> meuhlol: there is service managaer but none of the programs are listed there
[03:36] <CapaH> Can anyone here tell me how I can force the audio output from wine applications through my USB Headset?
[03:38] <BluesKaj> gir2222, perhaps you didn't close konverstion complately when you shutdown , then when starting your pc back up, konversation automatically will as well
[03:38] <BluesKaj> 'scuse the mixed tenses
[03:39] <blob_ster> I have a question too :-) Whenever I try running "konsole --types" from a root konsole, I get "konsole: cannot connect to X server". Worked beforehand, and nothing is changed as far as I know.
[03:39] <berkes> does anyone know if krita is supposed to be able to open PSDs out of the box?
[03:39] <berkes> I recall it being able to do so, but it fails now.
[03:40] <BluesKaj> oops
[03:40] <BluesKaj> gir2222, perhaps you didn't close konverstion complately when you shutdown , then when starting your pc back up, konversation automatically does as well
[03:41] <miles_> loves konversation
[03:42] <BluesKaj> yeah miles_ so do I , but the lack of an automatic server list turns some ppl off ...I'm willing to put up with it tho :)
[03:42] <BluesKaj> miles_, fix?
[03:42] <genii> BluesKaj: Me too
[03:43] <gir2222> im having problem compiling a program, i get the error checking for glib-2.0 >= 2.4 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4 gaim >= 1.0... configure: error: glib
[03:43] <BluesKaj> hi genii :)
[03:43] <miles_> yea, usually im just <miles> but now im <miles_>
[03:43] <genii> BluesKaj: Mornin'
[03:43] <margem> i
[03:43] <progreSSive> bye people! ==)
[03:43] <blob_ster> miles_: that's because someone else took your nick
[03:44] <BluesKaj> methinks gir2222 is running gnome
[03:44] <miles_> :-/
[03:44] <BluesKaj> registered miles?
[03:45] <miles_> i dunno
[03:45] <Dufresn3> anyone uses ekiga? query me
[03:45] <miles_> i guess not, i dont know what tha tmeans
[03:45] <gir2222> BluesKaj: no, kde
[03:46] <genii> miles_: If you register your nickname here, you put a password on it and you can boot anyone else who is using it
[03:46] <BluesKaj> miles_, did the text in the server box say that the the nick was registered to someone else ?
[03:46] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !register | miles_
[03:46] <BluesKaj> when you joined
[03:46] <ubotu> miles_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:46] <CapaH> I have USB Headphones however when I run any wine application it uses my laptop speakers. Can anyone tell me what I need to do in order to cause the audio output from a wine application to use my USB Headset instead?  Anyone?
[03:47] <miles_> thank you
[03:47] <persen> !subversion
[03:47] <ubotu> subversion is an open source application used for revision control. It is sometimes abbreviated to svn in reference to the name of its command line interface. Look here for a Subversion How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[03:48] <miles_> omg i was just messing with subversion
[03:48] <miles_> persen: what are you trying to do with subversion
 #winehq
[03:49] <persen> just setting up a simple repo for a single project, access it via a subversion client in eclipse.
[03:49] <miles_> what version of ubuntu u running?
[03:49] <persen> running kubuntu feisty
[03:49] <margem_> i ppl
[03:49] <miles_> i found a great tutorial yesterday, finally got it running
[03:50] <miles_> one sec ill go get it for you
[03:50] <margem> ola tostas
[03:50] <margem_> hi
[03:50] <genii> persen: For small things which do not have revisions, maybe falcon
[03:50] <persen> !falcon
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about falcon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <margem_> need help pvt me plz
[03:50] <miles_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[03:50] <persen> i need revisision anyway, thats what a code repo does.
[03:50] <genii> persen It is in the seveas repos
[03:50] <margem_> only nc girld with big tittes
[03:50] <margem_> girls*
[03:51] <margem_> and nc ass
[03:51] <margem_> :)
[03:51] <margem> loool
[03:51] <margem_> private me :)
[03:52] <persen> miles_, link?
[03:52] <persen> to that good tutorial
[03:52] <miles_> yea
[03:52] <miles_> i sent it
[03:52] <jagunso> mae: oi
[03:52] <miles_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[03:53] <persen> !subversion
[03:53] <ubotu> subversion is an open source application used for revision control. It is sometimes abbreviated to svn in reference to the name of its command line interface. Look here for a Subversion How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[03:53] <persen> Thats the same tutorial i've found
[03:53] <miles_> o, wow
[03:53] <miles_> yea, it works though
[03:53] <miles_> apt-get install subversion apache2 libapache2-svn
[03:54] <miles_> then config 1 file and thats pretty much it
[03:54] <miles_> im willing to try and help, although im far from a subversion expert though
[03:56] <BluesKaj> what does one use subversion for anyway..to save older versions of apps etc ?
[03:56] <CapaH> Can anyone help me on this? "asoundconf list" shows me: ICH6 and Headset as two choices. I run this: asoundconf set-default-card Headset --- and *most* applications now are heard through my headset. The problem is, any Wine application I run still comes out of my laptop speaker. I want a way to cause the sound from Wine applications also to go through my headset. Does anyone here know how to do this?
[03:57] <god> can somone point me in the right direction here, on Kunbuntu 7.04 how do you open the "restricted device manager"? ( reguarding Ati driver install https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI)
[03:58] <BluesKaj> playing games in wine CapaH ?
[03:58] <genii> BluesKaj: Basically, yes. So you have a complete history of development
[03:58] <CapaH> BluesKaj: Yes
[04:02] <BluesKaj> god , with a nick like that why are you asking us ? but seriously open adept/manage repositories and check the 4 boxes under the Kubuntu Software tab
[04:02] <CapaH> BluesKaj: So... playing games under wine, wanting sound from headset, tips? :)
[04:02] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> XD
[04:02] <blob_ster> Another question: where is my Panel setting from my System Settings in Kubuntu 7.04(64bit)
[04:02] <stephen> BluesKaj: does Gutsy have java plugin support?
[04:03] <BluesKaj> stephen, dunno , sorry
[04:03] <stephen> lol
[04:03] <Dufresn3> anyone uses ekiga? query me
[04:03] <stephen> it has flash support but im not sure bout java
[04:05] <zzl> who can tell me
[04:06] <genii> zzl What exactly is the question?
[04:06] <TheGateKeeper> Dufresn3, can't get ekiga to work on kubuntu, but I have got it working on gentoo (~x86)
[04:06] <BluesKaj> CapaH, open alsamixer while you have wine open , check your settings ...make sure aux , duplicate ,external aren't muted or turned down
[04:07] <CapaH> ok..
[04:07] <zzl> I don't know how to use irc!
[04:07] <BluesKaj> zzl , you got here ...ya did something right :)
[04:07] <genii> zzl Well, you are here using it right now :) So you are doing OK
[04:08] <zzl> I see a tool, konversation
[04:08] <genii> zzl Basic things to remember are not to paste in large amounts of things, don't be abusive or type all in capitals.
[04:08] <zzl> then I enter into this room!
[04:08] <god> BluesKaj, that is done, should i do a full upgrade or are there certian pacakage's i need to fast track the driver install
[04:08] <miles_> BluesKaj - kinda late i know, but my work uses subversion to maintain changes done to our code
[04:09] <CapaH> BluesKaj: In alsamixer, when I see "MM" I assume that means "Mute/Off" --- how do I turn that on? just hitting the up arrow doesn't do the trick
[04:09] <miles_> it adds revision numbers to the code, like im working on 2.4.11 right now or something
[04:09] <BluesKaj> ahh IC miles_ ..interesting
[04:09] <zzl> what is irc? for chatting?
[04:09] <miles_> irc is for knowledge
[04:09] <tzanger> zzl: complianing, mostly
[04:10] <BluesKaj> CapaH, use M on the KB to unmute , the result will be 00 in the box
[04:10] <zzl> thanks
[04:10] <nodesert> i installed compiz but when i run it  all window borders lost
[04:10] <CapaH> BluesKaj: Yes
[04:11] <BluesKaj> BTW, MM means muted CapaH
[04:11] <CapaH> BluesKaj: Ok but this is affecting only the IHC6 card -- the headset is its own 'card' (USB Headset)
[04:11] <stephen> BluesKaj: im going to update to gutsy Tribe 2 when th full release comes out can i update straight to that?
[04:11] <CapaH> i.e. when I asoundconf list -- I see: ICH6 and Headset
[04:12] <BluesKaj> dunno stephen , I'm not brave enuff to try gutsy yet
[04:12] <stephen> lol
[04:12] <CapaH> BluesKaj: So the real issue I have is, wine is using ICH6 when I want it to use: "Headset" -- how do I do that?
[04:13] <BluesKaj> CapaH, beyond me I'm afraid ,,, genii ...anyone ?
[04:14] <BluesKaj> CapaH, you have 2 soundcards ?
[04:14] <genii> Soundcard stuff is not my strength :(
[04:14] <CapaH> BluesKaj: technically yes, the USB Headset functions as though it is its own sound card
[04:14] <genii> <- Networking guy mainly
[04:16] <BluesKaj> where does the signal come from tho ...it has to be processed first , so it must be coming from the default soundcard , right ?
[04:17] <nodesert> i installed compiz but when i run it  all window borders lost
[04:17] <CapaH> BluesKaj: I dont understand
[04:18] <BluesKaj> well, neither do i ...sorry I'm confused
[04:18] <CapaH> BluesKaj: The headset I have is USB so it doesn't plug in the headset jack of the normal sound card, -- as far as Ubuntu is concerned, these are two seperate "sound cards"
[04:19] <BluesKaj> BBIAB , got some stuff to do .... garbage day today
[04:23] <persen> Trying to start apache2 and get: "Unkown DAV provider: syn", syntax error on line 56 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dav_svn.conf. Any clues/ideas?
[04:23] <persen> just added subversion
[04:23] <tzanger> hmm
[04:23] <tzanger> apparently i have bluez-utils installed but sdpd does not exist
[04:25] <aaroncampbell> Has anyone had a problem with kpdf trying to print duplex even if it's not set in the printer dialog?  I can't seem to print from kpdf because my printer keeps saying it doesn't have the duplex attachment.  However, I can open PDFs in kghostview and print just fine
[04:30] <ksivaji> ms announced that after five year vista will be the top os is it so?
[04:31] <blob_ster> Another question: can you prioritise repositories in apt? For example, if I have a file in my local repository, install from there instead of downloading from other sources?
[04:31] <blob_ster> Adept and apt seems to be happy to download everything :-(
[04:31] <CapaH> Is there anyone here who can help me? I have "two sound cards" --- My laptop has a built in sound card, and then I have a USB "sound card" (which is actually a headset, but Ubuntu considers it a sound card under asoundconf list) --- My problem is simple: I want the SOUND to come out of the HEADSET and not the Internal Speakers (ICH6) --- Can anyone here help me with this? I tried: asoundconf set-default-card Headset   --- No success. Anyone?
[04:31] <dr_willis> ksivaji,  from what i recall.. XP will be no longer be sold after the end of this year. (i think thats what the news said)
[04:36] <ksivaji> !defragmentaion
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about defragmentaion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <jd_> 230 this mourning sorry
[04:36] <blob_ster> !defragmentation
[04:36] <ubotu> defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[04:37] <blob_ster> ;-)
[04:37] <ksivaji> thank you
[04:37] <dr_willis> !spyware
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spyware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <dr_willis> :)
[04:38] <blob_ster> Having fun :-)
[04:38] <blob_ster> !repository prioritisation
[04:38] <blob_ster> Nada
[04:39] <stephen> oooooooh there are 9 new updates available :)
[04:39] <ksivaji> i  dont find any .html page only .asp pages are used why ?
[04:39] <blob_ster> WhtWolfTeraDyne: does it do any work on its own?
[04:40] <blob_ster> WhtWolfTeraDyne: I might borrow it then
[04:40] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> blob_ster: not yet. Maybe with some training...
[04:41] <dr_willis> !apt
[04:41] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:41] <persen> god damn
[04:41] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> yup. it's the touchpad.
[04:41] <persen> why must everything be so hassleish
[04:41] <DaSkreech> persen: What is hasselish?
[04:41] <genii> WhtWolfTeraDyne: If you have something like a tablet or laptop touchscreen, if you leave a stylus laying on a table, or somepiece of debris on the touchscreen it will cause that mouse-wandering
[04:41] <blob_ster> WhtWolfTeraDyne: my graphics tablet does funny things when it's near the monitor
[04:42] <genii> *stylus on a tablet*
[04:42] <persen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion done everything explained here, but get error messages i dont understand
[04:42] <blob_ster> David Hasslehoff ;-)
[04:42] <persen> Trying to start apache2 and get: "Unkown DAV provider: syn", syntax error on line 56 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dav_svn.conf.