[01:32] <penguin42> can someone set prio on 743324 - it's my bug so I won't recommend one; but its pretty important for netbooks
[01:32] <penguin42> bug 743324
[01:32] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 743324 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Allocate drive space window too large for netbook - can't get to buttons (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/743324
[01:44] <paultag> penguin42: I think there's a workaround. Regardless, set.
[01:44] <paultag> penguin42: thanks! :)
[02:00] <penguin42> thanks
[09:08] <ikt> has any progress been made on this bug:
[09:08] <ikt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/705988
[09:08] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 705988 in software-center (Ubuntu) "[master] Untrusted packages can not be installed (affects: 81) (dups: 28) (heat: 286)" [Medium,Confirmed]
[09:08] <ikt> I was just affected by it, it's not nice :/
[09:13] <abhinav-> ikt:  I am also affected by it :-/
[09:13] <abhinav-> although installing from command line using apt allows to confirm the source
[09:20] <ikt> I unticked the 'Canonical Partners' in the other sources tab of software sources and it seemed to fix it
[09:21] <ikt> I've seen 5 different work arounds
[09:21] <ikt> but this shouldn't be a bug at all in a program that has such a simple job to do
[09:25] <abhinav-> ikt : if apt asks the user about confirming the authenticity of the source, then this could also be done in software center ? although I never noticed this problem until recently
[09:30] <ikt> I'm not sure tbh
[09:30] <ikt> I've never had apt ask me about the source
[11:13] <BUGabundo> o/
[14:44] <Abhijit> hi
[14:44] <Abhijit> need to submit bug for ubuntu notificatioons. plese tell me the package name.
[14:49] <hggdh> Abhijit: what do you mean by 'Ubuntu notifications'? Indicator?
[14:49] <Abhijit> yes
[14:49] <Abhijit> hggdh, like sound bar
[14:49] <Abhijit> gwibber notificatioon
[14:49] <Abhijit> etc
[14:49] <Abhijit> that
[14:50] <hggdh> Abhijit: then it is (probably) indicator-applet
[14:50] <Abhijit> okay thanks hggdh
[14:58] <Abhijit> hi guys
[14:59] <Abhijit> should i go to #kubuntu-bugs for kde bugs or here is okay? hggdh ?
[15:00] <Abhijit> ah okay i head to there
[15:09] <hggdh> Abhijit: #hubuntu-bugs will know more about KDE bugs; if no response, you can try here
[15:09] <Abhijit> O.o
[15:09] <Abhijit> hggdh, if you mean #kubuntu-bugs then yes i gone there already. :-p
[15:10] <Abhijit> hggdh, and they said to submit it upstream. so will do it later.
[15:10] <Abhijit> hggdh, just to confirm should i submit gourment recipe manager bug here only or go upstream?
[15:13] <Abhijit> hggdh, ??
[15:21] <hggdh> Abhijit: please be patient, we may be busy elsewhere (as I was)
[15:21] <Abhijit> yeah okay
[15:21] <Abhijit> i am patient
[15:21] <hggdh> gourment recipe manager?
[15:21]  * hggdh goes digging data about it
[15:22] <Abhijit> yes
[15:23] <Abhijit> hggdh, yes
[15:23] <hggdh> gourmet, you mean, correct?
[15:24] <Abhijit> yes
[15:24] <Abhijit> its in software center
[15:24] <Abhijit> in software center in search type the word 'recipe'
[15:24] <Abhijit> and gourment will be first result
[15:25] <hggdh> Abhijit: gourmet -- no 'n' before the 't'
[15:25] <Abhijit> :-)
[15:25] <Abhijit> yeah!
[15:26] <hggdh> Abhijit: you can open the bug here for record, but (a) it is an Universe package, so it is a target of opportunity for contributors; (b) it would help to _also_ open the upstream bug, and link both to each other
[15:26] <Abhijit> hggdh, ok so first i submit here. and now i also go upstream too. thank you for yout time! :-)
[15:27] <hggdh> Abhijit: correct
[15:27] <hggdh> and thank you
[15:27] <Abhijit> hggdh, this is the launchpad one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gourmet/+bug/744302
[15:27] <Abhijit> :-)
[15:27] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 744302 in gourmet (Ubuntu) "gourment automatically selects the section (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[15:30] <hggdh> Abhijit: ok, I have some points I would like to raise re. 744302
[15:30] <Abhijit> hggdh, sure! :-)
[15:31] <hggdh> (1) you show a bug in gourmet in English -- not always auto-selecting the right section;
[15:31] <Abhijit> wait wait
[15:31] <hggdh> (2) you show another bug -- perhaps the same, perhaps not -- on *not* English: always selecting the wrong section
[15:31] <Abhijit> hggdh, i dont understand that above whole sentence 1st one
[15:32] <hggdh> no problem
[15:32] <Abhijit> hggdh, hey wait you doont get my point. why i mentioned that english and non english thing becuase
[15:32] <Abhijit> in english 'very few times' some times it does select it correctly. but thats very few.
[15:32] <hggdh> OK
[15:32] <Abhijit> but in my native language it never does that. i just wanted to point out the difference
[15:33] <Abhijit> in short bug exist for both languages
[15:33] <hggdh> Abhijit: so far a *similar* bug exists for both languages; perhaps it can be extended to others
[15:34] <Abhijit> hggdh, do you mean i should to submit two different bugs?
[15:34] <hggdh> (other languages)
[15:34] <hggdh> no
[15:34] <Abhijit> then?
[15:35] <hggdh> I am just pointing out to you that there is a risk on assuming
[15:35] <hggdh> but moving on
[15:35] <Abhijit> oh i see okay
[15:36] <hggdh> you then propose to *change* the way gourmet works: add an option to either always preselect the sections, or to never preselect the sections
[15:36] <Abhijit> wait
[15:36] <Abhijit> it will be radio button selection
[15:37] <Abhijit> 1. autoselect sectioons for all webpages
[15:37] <Abhijit> 2. ask on each time
[15:37] <Abhijit> hggdh, ^^
[15:37] <hggdh> Abhijit: this is implementation detail
[15:37] <Abhijit> yes
[15:37] <hggdh> but still it will either preselect or *not* preselect
[15:38] <hggdh> the issue I have with it is there is nothing in the above proposal that fixes the bug you raised
[15:38] <hggdh> so I can still click the radio button and get the wrong section preselected
[15:39] <Abhijit> yes
[15:39] <hggdh> so?
[15:39] <hggdh> what fixes the bug?
[15:39] <Abhijit> but who those aware of this setting will change it to ask on each so they will be like me benefitint
[15:39] <Abhijit> but those who only using enlish website dont need this
[15:39] <hggdh> Abhijit: I am afraid this will not resolve the bug
[15:39] <Abhijit> hggdh, then what to do?
[15:40] <hggdh> Abhijit: *fix* the wrong section selection
[15:40] <hggdh> :-)
[15:40] <Abhijit> hggdh, currently this is really annoying to me becaue there are lots of recipe i download from web and each time i manually neeed to first unselect all sectioosn becuase they all are wrong? what should i do?
[15:40] <Abhijit> hggdh, how to fix it? its not in english?
[15:41] <hggdh> Abhijit: you pointed an error in the application -- it is selecting the wrong sections. Instead of adding code to BYPASS the bug, we should *correct* it
[15:42] <Abhijit> oh yes
[15:42] <Abhijit> hggdh, but now another questions come how? since its for non english webpages? who will do it?
[15:42] <Abhijit> hggdh, if you want i will change the description of the bug accourdingly. should i ?
[15:43] <hggdh> Abhijit: first of all, you have to find out how the application selects sections
[15:43] <Abhijit> ok
[15:44] <hggdh> Abhijit: I am _not* involved with gourmet. I can still state that if I were to be involved, I would refuse your bug
[15:44] <hggdh> Abhijit: your suggesting does not solve the issue
[15:45] <hggdh> Abhijit: it may well be a good thing to be implemented, but IT DOES NOT SOLVE THE BUG
[15:45] <hggdh> and this is an important thing
[15:45] <hggdh> you point out a bug, and then you propose a way that will allow you to select to bypass the bug, but does NOT correct it
[15:46] <Abhijit> hggdh, ok. but now what should i do?
[15:46] <hggdh> it is sort of a non sequitur
[15:46] <Abhijit> hggdh, as of now i am not in situation to fix the bug? because fixing will reauire coding?
[15:46] <hggdh> Abhijit: point out the issue -- you already did that. Now, either submit it upstream, and wait for someone to look at it or
[15:47] <Abhijit> hggdh, yes i am going to submit it upstream.
[15:47] <hggdh> Abhijit: find out what would need to be done (grab the source code, chat with the upstream developers, read)
[15:47] <Abhijit> hggdh, and thanks for clearing me.
[15:47] <Abhijit> yeah
[15:47] <hggdh> perhaps it needs coding, perhaps it does not
[15:47] <Abhijit> ok
[15:47] <hggdh> but if you do not try to find out you will not really know
[15:48] <Abhijit> yeah ......but dont have that much time. really! i have time to submit bug that i can do for now!
[15:48] <Abhijit> :-)
[15:48] <Abhijit> and that is i am doing. so far 3 bugs submited!
[15:48] <hggdh> Abhijit: good enough, and very good indeed
[15:48] <Abhijit> for goourmet that is.
[15:49] <hggdh> it is not that we have to do it all -- we do not, 99% of us are volunteers
[15:49] <hggdh> but we shoudl try to do the right thing ;-)
[15:50] <hggdh> at least the right step
[15:50] <Abhijit> yeah
[15:50] <Abhijit> sure
[15:50] <hggdh> Abhijit: by the way thank you for your interest and willingness to help
[15:50] <Abhijit> hggdh, :-) sure!
[15:50] <hggdh> opening a bug DOES help
[15:51] <Abhijit> yes! :-)
[15:51] <hggdh> :-)
[18:54]  * drkenobi_work drkenobi-w


[03:04] <asterismo> hi there
[03:04] <asterismo> i need to figure out something
[03:05] <asterismo> there is a bug in which pulse audio cannot get muted/unmuted with XFCE keyboard shortcuts
[03:05] <asterismo> but in terminal i can use "amixer set Master toggle"
[03:05] <asterismo> but this cannot be executed from xfce shortcut
[03:06] <asterismo> baizon, bipolar, slowz someone?
[03:08] <asterismo> this is my problem
[03:08] <asterismo> i can execute "amixer set Master toggle" in terminal, and everuthing goes fine
[03:08] <asterismo> but the same command does not work as a keyboard shortcut
[03:08] <asterismo> why is that?
[03:15] <asterismo> the key shortcut works for some other key combination, but not for XF86AudioMute
[03:18] <jeepfanatic> was hoping if someone could help me out with a small issue i'm having
[03:19] <jeepfanatic> just installed 12.04 finally and having problems with running the "terminal" screenlet - worked fine in 11.10
[03:19] <jeepfanatic> whenever i try to launch it now it crashes - i did submit a report
[03:22] <Unit193> Alright, what's the bug number?
[03:23] <jeepfanatic> i submitted through the crash report
[03:27] <Unit193> Hmmm... Should still give you a number as it opens firefox.
[03:28] <jeepfanatic_> sorry i disappeared - had to reboot - couldn't get to browser window
[03:29] <jeepfanatic_> i did something dumb a few mins ago
[03:30] <Unit193> Alright, well if it didn't open a browser, I think the bugreport wasn't completed.
[03:30] <jeepfanatic_> gotcha
[03:30] <jeepfanatic_> ok well now it isn't even generating a crash report
[03:30] <jeepfanatic_> but it isn't launching either
[03:30] <jeepfanatic_> going to remove and reinstall screenlets and i'll be back
[03:32] <Unit193> Try purging rather than just uninstall, and you can force the report by doing ubuntu-bug screenlets (whatever the packagename really is)
[06:00] <zzz9> Hi, all
[06:00] <zzz9> Is there any way to apply wim image under linux?
[06:01] <zzz9> I want to restore win7 but I have reorganized all partitions except win7 backup partition on my netbook
[09:52] <xubuntu648> I have a question about installing Xubuntu 11.10, can anyone help me_
[09:54] <hobgoblin> !ask | xubuntu648
[09:55] <xubuntu648> Thanks. I am trying to install Xubuntu 11.10 but it has stalled and is not progressing, what should I do_
[09:58] <hobgoblin> what specs is the machine? where has it stalled? did you check the download and/or cd integrity?
[10:00] <xubuntu648> Its an IBM Thinkpad T60 and i cant say where it has stalled, I just have a screen with Thank You and an installation progress bar at the bottom which is only about 10% done. I see a circle that is rotating, indicating that it is doing something, but it has been doing this for 20 minutes without any change
[10:01] <xubuntu648> i havent checked download or cd integrity, am a computer novice so i dont know how!
[10:04] <hobgoblin> xubuntu648: at the bottom where it says what it is doing - there is an arrow - click it and see if it opens to tell you what it is doing
[10:05] <hobgoblin> xubuntu648: what machine did you burn it on ? windows?
[10:07] <xubuntu648> it was burnt by a friend so I dont know, anyway I clicked the arrow and theres a lot of information, shall i tell you only the last piece of information_
[10:07] <hobgoblin> please
[10:08] <xubuntu648> successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.Upower'
[10:08] <hobgoblin> sounds like it's hung though somewhere - how much RAM do you have?
[10:09] <hobgoblin> never read that one :)
[10:09] <xubuntu648> i think 8GB
[10:09] <hobgoblin> more than enough then
[10:10] <hobgoblin> is it connected to the net?
[10:11] <Guest18866> Hi folks! How do you install themes on Xubuntu?
[10:11] <xubuntu648> further up in the information log it says Client failed to connect to the D+B US Daemon
[10:12] <xubuntu648> yes its connected, or should be
[10:15] <Guest18866> Right.. Themes anyone?
[10:15] <knome> !patience | Guest18866
[10:17] <xubuntu648> hmmm, hobgoblin, i just tried to check my internet connection by opening email and it failed to open, saying the connection was interrupted, so i might not be connected to the net
[12:02] <Humble313> hey, hope you're all well. i'm having wifi problems with ubuntu so i was told to try xubuntu. what's the best version?
[12:06] <blackgatocatnegr> ubuntu is more resources heavy than xubuntu, and honestly look at this channel name, how can be be objective?
[12:10] <Humble313> it's for my dad
[12:10] <Humble313> as long as it has basic features that include openoffice or something he should be fine and compatibility with hp drivers
[12:11] <knome> Humble313, you can have libre(open)office in both and hardware support should be the same
[12:12] <Humble313> but the advantage is that it'll be much faster than ubuntu right?
[12:12] <Humble313> especially since it seems that you only need half the ram
[12:12] <knome> well, somewhat faster. if you install libreoffice, it will still need the ram libreoffice needs
[12:13] <Humble313> the pc has 1.5 gb ram
[12:13] <Humble313> amd athlon single core processor
[12:13] <knome> so depending on the applications you're going to use, it might be quite similar to ram usage
[12:13] <knome> 1.5GB ram is fine
[12:13] <Humble313> and ati radeon x1650 pro graphics card. like i said basic usage.
[12:13] <Humble313> openoffice programs would only be used once in a while. mainly browsing websites and youtube.
[12:14] <Humble313> right now ubuntu is fine but wifi keeps dropping out so i was recommended xubuntu.
[12:14] <knome> i'm not sure if that would help much, especially if it's a hardware issue; again, the hardware support is the same for both
[12:16] <SandJ> First question: does it *need* to be wifi?  Is it a desktop computer in a fixed location that could be connected via a long lead?  It may be quicker and less painful in the long run.
[12:17] <Humble313> the router is in my room and the pc is in the next room
[12:17] <Humble313> it was running perfectly fine via wifi on windows 7
[12:17] <SandJ> It is possible to connect via the mains, BTW.
[12:17] <Humble313> ubuntu detects the usb and the router, connects, doesn't show anything on the web browser and then disconnects and reconnects. same process over and over again.
[12:17] <blackgatocatnegr> xubuntu would be a tad lighter, and honestly, cable internet works better. since the pc s next room, just get a long cable, it wont' afect the speed conection.
[12:18] <SandJ> Also, the first task is to work out what the fault is - the operating system is less likely than the provider, clashes with neighbours' wifi is possible, other forms of interference such as poorly suppressed motors, faulty router, faulty wifi card...
[12:18] <blackgatocatnegr> Humble313, winmoden -_-
[12:18] <knome> Humble313, did you have to use ndiswrapper?
[12:18] <Humble313> what's that?
[12:18] <Humble313> btw this is my first experience with ubuntu/xubuntu
[12:18] <Humble313> only installed yesterday
[12:19] <blackgatocatnegr> Humble313, accient story, basicaly modens that where made for winsows and where really hard or imposible to work on linux.
[12:19] <SandJ> I am 99.937% confident changing the operating system from ubuntu to xubuntu will NOT change this problem.  (Unless it means going from a Ubuntu with an old inappropriate driver to a new Xubuntu with a new driver)
[12:19] <Humble313> ok well the router is bt homehub 3. and no device has had trouble connecting before.
[12:20] <Humble313> whether it be a pc, laptop, netbook, android or ios phone
[12:20] <knome> Humble313, it's a wrapper used by some wireless cards; you might want to check jockey (somewhere in the appmenu under settings/system) if ndiswrapper is enabled
[12:21] <Humble313> does that still apply to wireless usbs? as i haven't used a wireless "card" in years
[12:22] <blackgatocatnegr> Humble313, you could try installing a program to improve your wifi conections, it may help. WiFi Radar works ok sometimes.
[12:22] <Humble313> hmm, i'll try that now
[12:23] <Humble313> what just happened?
[12:24] <knome> Humble313, you were disconnected and reconnected
[12:26] <blackgatocatnegr> Humble313, for some reason irc is very sensitive when you use wifi, even in windows, so you may disconect from irc even if your wifi works fine fr everything else.
[12:27] <Humble313> installing wifi radar now
[12:32] <Humble313> ok configuring now
[12:32] <Humble313> one of the option is regarding wpa
[12:32] <Humble313> currently says no wpa
[12:32] <Humble313> would i just have to put my password there?
[12:34] <Humble313> and apparently my router automatically switches from channel to channel but i dunno if that's true.
[12:36] <Humble313> currently on channel 7
[12:37] <Humble313> do i put the wifi password in the key section or the wpa section?
[12:37] <SkippersBoss> humble, i take it your wifi does have a keyphrase setup ?
[12:38] <SkippersBoss> would be smart :-)
[12:38] <SkippersBoss> other wise a popup box will show every time you connect to it
[12:39] <Humble313> there's two sections on the program. there's the wifi options. i put the channel to 7, mode on auto cos i dunno about that. put password in key, and security restricted?
[12:40] <Humble313> and the other simply says wpa
[12:41] <SkippersBoss> hmm i hae missed something here
[12:41] <SkippersBoss> what end are you configuring here
[12:42] <SkippersBoss> the router or xubuntu
[12:42] <Humble313> i came here because i had a problem with ubuntu, they said xubuntu wouldn't solve it.
[12:42] <SkippersBoss> it sounds like the router
[12:42] <Humble313> so they recommended i install wifi radar
[12:42] <SkippersBoss> a wifi radar
[12:43] <SkippersBoss> like i said i missed somesong
[12:43] <SkippersBoss> something
[12:43] <hobgoblin> Humble313: my bt router is set to channel 1- but it's a version2
[12:43] <hobgoblin> if that's what you;re talking about
[12:44] <Humble313> do i leave the mode to auto in wifi radar?
[12:44] <SkippersBoss> IIRC Humble313 is experiencing intermittent contact on xubuntu right
[12:45] <Humble313> basically my problem was that i installed ubuntu. it detected wireless usb and router but it wouldn't actually connect. first time i've had this problem.
[12:45] <Humble313> if i'm putting key in wifi radar then security type would be restricted yeah?
[12:45] <hobgoblin> SkippersBoss: don't think it connects properly - but I don't know if they've checked in additional drivers - nor what card they actually have
[12:45] <SkippersBoss> wifi radar should giv you all wifi connections in the neighbourhood
[12:46] <SkippersBoss> Trouble with wifi connections can be that if there are to many broadcasting on the same channel you could experience issues
[12:46] <Humble313> there's only one other router near me thats using channel 7
[12:46] <SkippersBoss> hmm
[12:47] <Humble313> but yeah, security type open or restricted since i'm putting a key?
[12:47] <SkippersBoss> restricted
[12:48] <SkippersBoss> I remember experiencing a problem on a friends x24 a week ago.. that had a TP-link card
[12:49] <Humble313> btw, using a wireless 150mbps usb, not card.
[12:49] <Humble313> it started acquiring ip address then ran into unexpected problem
[12:50] <SkippersBoss> Are there any additional drivers activated for the wifi plug ??
[12:51] <Humble313> not that i'm aware of
[12:52] <Humble313> reason says i have an obselete package installed. please install upgrade if possible
[12:52] <SkippersBoss> a :
[12:52] <SkippersBoss> ah
[12:52] <SkippersBoss> have they given a name ??
[12:53] <Humble313> like an error code?
[12:54] <SkippersBoss> can you physically hook up the machine to the net ??
[12:54] <Humble313> yeah but my dad would prefer wifi
[12:54] <SkippersBoss> well they usually give the name of the obsolete package
[12:54] <SkippersBoss> just to get the upgrade sorted
[12:54] <SkippersBoss> :-)
[12:55] <Humble313> right now it's acquiring ip address
[12:55] <Humble313> gosh man, ubuntu was supposed to be simple lol
[12:56] <SkippersBoss> yeah it is 95% of the time
[12:57] <SkippersBoss> Problem lies with the manufacturers  of certain hardware. If they do not donate code to the open source we have a hard controling this
[12:57] <SkippersBoss> :-(
[12:57] <Humble313> i'll stick to ethernet now. gotta do other things but yeah it seems the problem is acquiring the ip address
[12:58] <SkippersBoss> i think your usb network card is not fully supported :-( I do remember this issue...
[12:58] <SkippersBoss> have fun: i need to be doing something else now
[13:10] <SandJ> Humble313, sadly the easiest way of sorting out the WiFi is with the PC connected by
[13:10] <SandJ> cable while you do it.
[13:10] <SandJ> That way you can get all the upgrades and drivers you might need and check connectivity and so on.
[13:12] <blackgatocatnegr> Does "Windows Wireless drivers" program helps at all?
[13:12] <blackgatocatnegr> I never tried it.
[13:13] <blackgatocatnegr> program name "ndisgtk, a GTK+ based frontend for ndiswrapper, allowing an easy way to install Windows wireless drivers."
[13:15] <hobgoblin> I'd guess that a lsusb with the thing plugged in would be rather useful in seeing if the thing has problems
[13:18] <Humble313> ill be sticking to windows on this pc :)
[13:19] <blackgatocatnegr> you could at least try ndisgtk first
[13:20] <Humble313> for ubuntu?
[13:24] <Humble313> i think i've done an additional driver search though
[13:25] <blackgatocatnegr> ndisgtk is in the ubuntu repositories, just search for Windows Wireless drivers
[13:26] <blackgatocatnegr> if that does not help, nothing will.
[13:27] <blackgatocatnegr> unless someone there has made a linux driver that works with your card
[13:27] <Humble313> oh ok, i see. thanks
[17:45] <davidvj> Having a problem completing an upgrade to xfce4 through the ppa. Anybody able to point me in the right direction?
[17:47] <xubuntu329> hello to all
[17:47] <blackgatonegro>  davidvj, try with synaptic
[17:48] <blackgatonegro>  davidvj, if that fails, reboot and in grub pick repair broken packages
[17:48] <xubuntu329> i'm trying to install xubuntu 12.04 but installation crash at "install grub-dummy" can someone help me? thnx
[17:49] <davidvj> It is in synaptic that I think my problem lies ... will try a reboot an see if that helps .. thanks
[17:56] <blackgatonegro> xubuntu329, well try to install xubuntu 11.10 then upgrade to 12.04, then install propietary drives, then restricted drivers
[17:56] <blackgatonegro> thats the solñution official suport seems to be giving
[17:58] <xubuntu329> thnx blackgatonegro i'll try
[18:09] <davidvj> looks like after a reboot the xfce4 ppa is working correctly ..... How do I move the top panel items to the right-hand side?
[18:10] <blackgatonegro> well, did you upgrade to 12.04 already?
[18:10] <davidvj> looks like I am fully upgraded!
[18:11] <blackgatonegro> davidvj, install restricted extras, install propietary video card driver, update?
[18:13] <davidvj> OK will do! How will that help with moving my menu items on the panel?
[18:13] <blackgatonegro> it will not, but it will save you problems later
[18:13] <davidvj> Thanks
[18:16] <davidvj> Just remembered .. I called for restricted extras as a part of my basic install.
[18:16] <blackgatonegro> davidvj, make sre they are installed, try to play a mp3 file
[18:17] <blackgatonegro> davidvj,  if you can heard sound, then is installed
[18:18] <davidvj> I have been playing BBC video material and that is usually the critical test
[18:18] <davidvj> Yes sound was fine
[18:19] <blackgatonegro> ok, next install the propietario video card driver, make sure is the one that has "update" in the name
[18:20] <davidvj> where will I find the prop vid driver? I have already installed colour management ... hope nothing is going to mess with that
[18:26] <blackgatonegro> in settings /adicional drivers
[18:29] <davidvj> I should have known that .... OK; " no drivers available" it tells me. Never found a driver with any prior linux installations
[18:29] <blackgatonegro> Then nevermind then. Now go to system/ update manager and update
[18:31] <davidvj> One last nagging question: I am using 'Industrial' window format (others with the same problem) the window-border is really hard to grip ... have you found a solution?
[18:32] <blackgatonegro> davidvj, try changing the theme
[18:34] <davidvj> Been there and multiply done that ... as I inferred all the themes appear to have the same problem.
[18:35] <knome> davidvj, http://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/
[18:35] <blackgatonegro> Have you changed your video settings?
[18:36] <blackgatonegro> ah wait, video grip, nevermind.
[18:37] <davidvj> Knome: will look at that ... thanks
[18:37] <knome> davidvj, np
[18:39] <blackgatonegro> And here I was thinking it was the windows looking weird, must be all the video problems I usually have on linux
[18:42] <davidvj> knome: learnt something new today .. thanks .. new window tricks for this old dog ... it works quite well
[18:44] <davidvj> All of the video and terrible sound problems that I had disappeared a couple of years ago. All my installs now are mostly clean.
[18:44] <uskerine> hi
[18:44] <uskerine> i am using live distribution from xubuntu
[18:45] <uskerine> i disabled the wifi last time i used the system
[18:45] <uskerine> and now i can not find the small icon on the task bar to get connected again
[18:45] <uskerine> any ideas on how to reactivate wifi? it seems it has been disabled
[18:46] <davidvj> The icons are a bit hard to see .. did you change your background?
[18:46] <uskerine> no i didn't
[18:46] <uskerine> i see the bluetooth
[18:46] <davidvj> If you are talking to us then you can not be disconnected!!
[18:47] <uskerine> :)
[18:47] <uskerine> i am taking through other computer
[18:48] <uskerine> talking
[18:48] <uskerine> so my xubuntu is disconnected
[18:48] <uskerine> :(
[18:49] <davidvj> go to 'settings > network connections'
[18:50] <uskerine> errr
[18:50] <Yancho> guys, i am trying to install ubuntuone on xubuntu. however after installing ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk when i go settings > ubuntu one control panel - the application is crashing .. any idea from where to start fixing please?
[18:50] <uskerine> it was just clicking on the double arrow icon
[18:50] <uskerine> and "enabling the wifi"
[18:50] <uskerine> i feel a bit embarrased.... :) but it works now
[18:50] <uskerine> thanks anyway i return back to xubuntu
[18:50] <blackgatonegro> Yancho, try reboot, grub, fix broken pakages
[18:50] <davidvj> glad to help
[18:51] <Yancho> how to enter into grub blackgatonegro ?
[18:52] <blackgatonegro> reboot, in the menu, pick the second option of the linux version you are using, then pick recover /fix broken packages
[18:53] <Yancho> ok will do thanks :)
[19:01] <Yancho> blackgatonegro, did that - now when i start it, no application is starting. ps aux | grep ubuntuon gives :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1059570/ any idea?
[19:02] <recon69_lap> hi, I'm trying to use eclipse IDE, But I get  "bash: /home/mec/opt/eclipse/eclipse: cannot execute binary file" when I try start it from the command line?
[19:04] <blackgatonegro> Yancho, try to fully remove ubuntu one using synaptic, then reintall it using synaptic, make sure you have smart upgrade enabled.
[19:12] <recon69_lap> never mind, look like i trying to run legacy 64bit install of eclipse on a new 32bit install
[19:20] <recon69_lap> aggh, how to you shrink a dialog thats to big for screen?
[19:21] <blackgatocatnegr> recon69_lap, try to resize the windows or just change your screen resolution, chaging the minumn font size also may help
[19:22] <recon69_lap> cant resize the dialog, it's off the screen !!!!
[19:24] <Sysi> Alt+Right click
[19:24] <recon69_lap> maximize worked this time :) , but second program I'v had this problem with
[19:24] <blackgatocatnegr> recon69_lap, change xubuntu minimun font size
[19:25] <blackgatocatnegr> recon69_lap,  or change screen resolution.
[19:26] <recon69_lap> resolution is up as far as it will go, I'll try minimum font, but i hope it does not make it hard to read text
[19:31] <recon69_lap> nope can't find minimum font anywhere
[19:33] <blackgatocatnegr> Try settings / setting manager / appearance / default font
[19:37] <recon69_lap> blackgatocatnegr: duh, I knew that :) thx from the help
[20:00] <xubuntu600> hello?
[20:02] <baizon> hello :)
[20:02] <xubuntu600> Hey if anyone can haelp me I just installed Xubuntu 12.0.4 and can't get my laptops speakers to work
[20:04] <baizon> xubuntu600: check pavucontrol
[20:04] <baizon> check there for outputs
[20:04] <xubuntu600> I've tried every setting but no luck
[20:05] <baizon> xubuntu600: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[20:13] <blackgatonegro> check pulseaudio
[20:21] <xubuntu872> hola friends - quick question.  what desktop environment does xubuntu 12 come with?
[20:22] <Sysi> xfce
[20:22] <baizon> xfce 4.10
[20:22] <baizon> nooo
[20:22] <baizon> sorry
[20:22] <baizon> xfce 4.8
[20:29] <xubuntu872> ok, thanks.  i've got xubuntu running in a virtual machine, do i just not get a desktop environment?
[20:33] <blackgatonegro> nope, you get it, only emulated and that.
[20:35] <xubuntu872> how do i convince it to run?  it's telling me that $display is not set and that this version of fte must be run under x11.  xorg is up to date, i know because i tried to apt get install it.
[20:37] <blackgatonegro> "Mmm.... try using wubi then"
[20:39] <xubuntu872> wubi is a windows installer?  i'm not tryint to install it under windows
[20:40] <blackgatonegro> then just boot it from the live cd and not install it
[20:42] <blackgatonegro> have you read this? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/virtualbox
[20:43] <blackgatonegro> there is also http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableubuntu/
[20:45] <blackgatonegro> but that one is a bit outdated
[20:50] <xubuntu872> i'm looking at the first one.  i think i have a different version of vmware.  it's trying to do easyinstall, which a cursory google search recommends against.
[20:51] <blackgatonegro> mmm
[20:51] <blackgatonegro> try with the alternate cd
[20:51] <blackgatonegro> or try with 11.10 then upgrade
[20:58] <xubuntu872> ok, i'll try version 11 when i get home tonight.  thanks!
[21:04] <Zubin> how to install a usb modem in xubuntu?
[21:05] <recon69_lap> Zubin: plug it in to a usb port?
[21:05] <Zubin> ya but it did not read.
[21:07] <Zubin> i tried even to change the modules and add the usb serial option but the file did not save and hence i could not load the modules.
[21:08] <recon69_lap> hang on, I'm getting a message from the sprits, is the modem a  Belkin Wireless G ? :)
[21:09] <Zubin> no its a micromax 3g modem.
[21:10] <recon69_lap> Zubin: try use lsusb to identify the usb code for the modem, then have a look at supported hardware
[21:18] <recon69_lap> Zubin: these commands might help too http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[21:20] <recon69_lap> Zubin: opps http://paste.ubuntu.com/1059784/
[22:42] <Marzata> how do you connect Android 4.0.4 to Xubuntu 12.04? usb cabel? wifi? ssh?
[22:45] <ochosi> Marzata: or bluetooth?
[22:45] <ochosi> i guess much depends on what you want to do
[22:45] <ochosi> but i have no experience with that whatsoever, so i wouldn't know
[22:45] <ochosi> (don't have android)
[22:46] <lemmoner> I do via USB
[22:47] <Marzata> isn't that suppose to be linux and they to talk together ...
[22:47] <GridCube> not... really
[22:47] <Marzata> the next proprietary crap ...
[22:48]  * SkippersBoss uses wifi through the router. to connect to his Arc to his xubuntu machine
[22:48] <knome> Marzata, recheck the attitude
[22:49]  * SkippersBoss has not yet been able to sync his se arc with his xubuntu box :-(
[22:49] <Marzata> imagine ...
[22:50] <lemmoner> aren't android sources available?
[22:51] <GridCube> yes they are somewhere
[22:52] <lemmoner> then it is a matter of time a fork appears
[22:53] <knome> #xubuntu-offtopic for android discussion
[23:02] <knome> holstein, hello. can you please turn off awaynicks? thanks.
[23:02] <knome> Htbrdd, ^
[23:02] <knome> holstein, sorry ;)
[23:03] <Htbrdd> yes?
[23:04] <knome> Htbrdd, please turn off awaynicks
[23:04] <Htbrdd> why do i need to do that? not trying to be rude just asking?
[23:05] <knome> Htbrdd, that's a channel policy, we try to avoid any unnecessary "lines"/messages sent to users; sometimes the channels is really busy even without
[23:05] <Htbrdd> my irc bouncer sets away when i log out.
[23:05] <knome> Htbrdd, i'm sure there's some kind of option to turn that off
[23:06] <knome> Htbrdd, setting /away is ok, using awaynick is not
[23:06] <knome> Htbrdd, there's a big difference :)
[23:06] <Htbrdd> yea i think it sets away for just #freenode not just a channel. but i will look into it.
[23:06] <knome> Htbrdd, both nick and /away are network-wide


[06:23] <leo2007> is bzr dead?
[06:24] <spiv> It's probably fair to say it's in "maintenance mode"; see recent discussions on the mailing list.
[06:24] <leo2007> hmm...
[06:25] <spiv> Canonical's developers don't appear to be actively working on big new features, for instance.
[06:27] <leo2007> I see.
[06:28] <leo2007> pretty sad for projects that migrated to bzr instead of git.
[06:29] <spiv> Yes, definitely a shame.  bzr is pretty nice.
[06:34] <leo2007> unfortunately at this stage it is pretty pointless for bzr to carry on. Just not enough mindshare.


[05:30] <david_> How do I find out where a program like xchat is installed?
[05:31] <david_> Firefox asks me what application to open an IRC link in.
[05:39] <holstein> david_: i wouldnt bother... i would just open xchat, and go to the channel.. its not that hard, and you want to register
[05:39] <holstein> david_: right now, you can /join #channel-name
[05:40] <holstein> to answer the question. should find what you need in /usr/bin.. /usr/bin/firefox for example
[05:52] <david_> Thanks holstein
[07:46] <ZudoHackz> hello, I just installed ubuntu studio!
[11:19] <dan-roger> why is it soo difficult too upgrade my nvidia-drivers from 304.88 too 319.00
[11:20] <smartboyhw> dan-roger, you just install it?
[11:20] <smartboyhw> It shouldn't be that difficult
[11:21] <dan-roger> can i get some helpsoo i can update my drivers
[11:21] <dan-roger> i have ubuntustudio 13.04
[11:21] <smartboyhw> dan-roger, uh oh, 319.00 is only in saucy hmm
[11:21] <smartboyhw> dan-roger, would you mind having 310 insted?
[11:22] <cub> dan-roger, off topic but tre.se where are you in Sweden? I'm in Sthlm.
[11:22] <dan-roger> GBG
[11:23] <cub> aha, the dark side. ;)
[11:23] <dan-roger> nu skall fjollträskbon inte va kaxi
[11:24] <cub> haha no I grew up in Halmstad, then Haparanda and now fjollträsk
[11:24] <dan-roger> are you  a bird
[11:24] <cub> nice to see more Swedes using US
[11:24]  * smartboyhw wonders why so many Ubuntu Studio users are Swedish
[11:25] <cub> smartboyhw, we are artistic. ;)
[11:25] <smartboyhw> cub, :o
[11:25] <dan-roger> because the music-program are FREE
[11:25] <dan-roger> and that is it not for PYTTEMJUK= microsoft
[11:29] <cub> I'm no help about nvidia though, runnin ATI here
[11:29]  * smartboyhw too
[17:01] <studio-user033> hello
[17:04] <OvenWerks> studio-user033: Hello?
[17:04] <studio-user033> yes
[20:51] <Navion> Can someone suggest an S/PDIF digital audio input for Ubuntu-Studio? I've got an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 but I'm having trouble with the drivers (or lack of drivers).
[21:14] <widad> hello every body plz i have a problem with my sound i cant add volume or neither reduce it and it's all the time muted and can't turn it on. what can i do?
[21:17] <widad_> hello every body plz i have a problem with my sound i cant add volume or neither reduce it and it's all the time muted and can't turn it on. what can i do?
[21:18] <widad> hello every body plz i have a problem with my sound i cant add volume or neither reduce it and it's all the time muted and can't turn it on it worked perfectly before update i have audacious . what can i do?


[07:37] <dholbach> good morning
[08:03] <MooDoo> morning
[11:14] <czajkowski> popey: will it be locked to their network http://www.bq.com/es/ubuntu.html
[11:15] <popey> its not locked to any network
[11:15] <czajkowski> ohhh nice
[11:15] <czajkowski> :D
[11:17] <czajkowski> popey: can you put in a seperate memory card ?
[11:18] <czajkowski> popey: intergration with G+ can you do hangouts on it ?
[11:18] <popey> It has an SD card slot
[11:18] <popey> No hangouts yet.
[11:18] <czajkowski> bugger
[11:18] <popey> Sorry, microSD card slot.
[11:18] <czajkowski> hmm so could get it and just make sure I'm near my tablet or laptop for hangouts or bluejeans for calls
[11:24] <czajkowski> popey: just got asked by someone - will the docking feature ever happen
[11:24] <popey> yes
[11:24] <popey> just not yet
[11:24] <popey> not finished
[11:25] <czajkowski> gotcha
[11:25] <czajkowski> can go and pass that on now
[16:02] <czajkowski> chromium on ubuntu is a royal pita, for ubuntu on air says format not recognised :(
[17:18] <mhall119> czajkowski: yeah, chromium has gone downhill over the last few months, I finally gave up and switch to Firefox and then to Chrome
[17:19] <mhall119> czajkowski: on the latest images you can actually enable windowed-mode on a phone, so from there it's just a matter of getting video output to a monitor (I'm told Bluetooth mouse/keyboard already works)
[17:32] <dholbach> hangout works for me in chromium?
[17:32] <dholbach> I use it all the time
[17:33] <czajkowski> hangouts yes
[17:33] <czajkowski> but not via ubuntu on air
[17:33] <dholbach> bizarre - that worked for me too
[17:35]  * dholbach calls it a day - see you all tomorrow!
[18:09] <belkinsa> popey, have you e-mailed UW Mailing-list on how to get involved in Ubuntu Phone Project?
[21:14] <balloons> belkinsa, how'd the global jam go?
[21:27] <belkinsa> It went well but I learned some lessons from it.
[22:07] <balloons> belkinsa, if you have any feedback about the process, or just want to share feel free to mail the list. I'd love for some folks to send along info and share experiences
[23:53] <belkinsa> I will.  I thought one blogging it though as a Lessons Learned post
[23:54] <pleia2> perhaps start with the list and then link the list post to the blog? it's really hard to respond to a blog post link on a mailing list
[23:54] <pleia2> err, link the list post *from* the blog
[23:54] <belkinsa> Good point.


[10:19] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Jammy Final] has been updated (20220419)


[20:24] <mup> PR snapcraft#4281 opened: Hotfix/7.5 merge <do-not-squash> <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4281>


[02:26] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[02:31] <Mr_Cyclops> !flatpack
[02:33] <daftykins> don't they spell it flatpak?
[03:16] <Mr_Cyclops> daftykins, yeah, I did a typo, although even that didn't yield anything for some weird reason :-/
[03:16] <daftykins> there's no factoid! flatpak isn't the 'buntu thing after all
[06:23] <ducasse> good morning
[06:56] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:05] <EoflaOE> Good morning everyone
[08:29] <lordievader> Morning EoflaOE
[08:29] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[08:29] <EoflaOE> I am doing fine. How about you?
[08:30] <lordievader> Doing good here
[12:09] <marcoagpinto> Hello!
[12:09] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[12:11] <EoflaOE> hello marcoagpinto
[12:13] <marcoagpinto> :))))
[12:13] <marcoagpinto> I am finishing the cola bottle
[12:14] <EoflaOE> nice
[13:22]  * JimBuntu refills marcoagpinto's cola bottle when they aren't looking.
[13:22] <marcoagpinto> thanks :)
[13:23] <marcoagpinto> this morning I have translated the LanguageTool browser add-on and also updated my homepage...
[13:23] <marcoagpinto> my homepage now has a scroll to top button
[13:23] <marcoagpinto> :)
[13:23] <marcoagpinto> I edited lots of pages and added the code by hand
[15:28] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[16:05] <Bashing-om> UWN592 is on the streets: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue592 .
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> mknepper: 20.04 is on my wishlist
[17:38] <mknepper> im patiently waiting
[17:38] <mknepper> Xfce will be up to 4.14
[17:39] <mknepper> I tried installing the staging packages on 18.04 and it seemed pretty laggy, so I went back to 4.12
[17:39] <mknepper> i actually started donating to a lot of the FOSS stuff I use, and organizations that help Linux and other FOSS projects
[17:39] <mknepper> 19.04 looks really good and it's decently fast, i think 20.04 will be great
[17:39] <mknepper> i hope gnome optimizes their DE some more and gets more speed out of it.
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> mknepper: cool
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> mknepper: my bank number is...
[17:42] <lordcirth> They said that 19.10 was hoping to have a root-on-ZFS install option, but feature freeze is very soon and I don't see it. :(
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> lordcirth: that was for server right?
[17:42] <lordcirth> I forget
[17:43] <lordcirth> Maybe it was. I don't see a server ISO in the daily build site? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/08/ubuntu-19-10-will-offer-experimental-zfs-file-system-option
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> to the desktop
[17:44] <lordcirth> So it says. Though the author also seems to not know what they are talking about, so who knows?
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> yeah omgubuntu mostly wants to provide first news
[17:46] <lordcirth> I just used zsync to update the daily iso, I'll look again
[17:46] <lordcirth> zsync is a wonderful thing and I wish all distros used it
[17:48] <mknepper> benefits of zsync? I don't really know anything about it
[17:48] <mknepper> i guess ddg can answer most of that for me lol
[17:50] <lordcirth> mknepper, it lets you download the diffs between two files, ISOs in this case. So it pulled 88% of the data from last week's ISO, then downloaded the rest.
[17:50] <mknepper> that is really cool
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu got now zsync in the installer right?
[17:51] <lordcirth> Yeah. But it requires the host to generate a zsync file and host it, so the site has to support it
[17:51] <lordcirth> Anyway, I'm looking in the 19.10 desktop installer and I'm not seeing ZFS. I'll ask in +1
[18:07] <mknepper> do you think canonical's use of gnome is going to help with performance and stuff? my theory is that sicne its their main de, they're going to tweak it so it runs a bit faster, maybe contrib some code
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> mknepper: yeah they work togheter
[18:08] <mknepper> i hope that partnership is doing good things.
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> mknepper: in my vision, since ubuntu chosen gnome again it changed alot already
[18:08] <mknepper> lotuspsychje, do you do any dev for ubuntu?
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> mknepper: no, im a vanilla volunteer, doing LTS bugging & ubuntu support
[18:09] <EoflaOE> nice lotuspsuchje.
[18:09] <mknepper> ah, cool. i think thats awesome.
[18:10] <mknepper> ive been trying to help/donate to devs if i can, even if its just like 1$
[18:10] <EoflaOE> hello everyone
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> hey EoflaOE
[18:10] <EoflaOE> hi lotuspsychje
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> !contribute | mknepper
[18:11] <mknepper> i actually have been donating to ubuntu
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> great
[18:12] <mknepper> i was thinking about seeding the lts torrent, but im not sure how much of a help that'd be
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> mknepper: alot of our crew are seeding at release times to help, and it is much help
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks for example
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> !torrents
[18:57] <marcoagpinto> [19:55] <marcoagpinto> "Still searching for my way, the right way to be. Still pondering what I've done. I'm still thinking what I've said, still finding from within. And all that I know is still not enough"
[19:05] <pragmaticenigma> marcoagpinto: Do remember, we discuss Ubuntu here. For life's mysteries, maybe try #ubuntu-offtopic or ##LifeIssues
[19:11] <marcoagpinto> ahhhh... sorry... I was meditating about the meaning of life
[19:43] <EoflaOE> hi marcoagpinto
[19:43] <marcoagpinto> Hello
[19:43] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[19:44] <marcoagpinto> EoflaOE!
[20:14] <EoflaOE> How are you marcoagpinto?
[20:15] <marcoagpinto> fine, and you?
[20:15] <marcoagpinto> :p
[20:15] <marcoagpinto> I am working on the GB speller
[20:15] <EoflaOE> Fine.


[02:17] <LaserJock> hola Edu people
[02:43] <cottima> hope it is okay to ask a ltsp 4.2 questions here?  on the client if I set the boot order to PXE first, is that all that needs to be done on the client?
[02:46] <LaserJock> it should be I think
[02:46] <cottima> also, the config for pxe clients says it is based on ip.  could it be done by mac address?
[02:50] <cottima> thank you LaserJock
[03:54] <Lenny> hi
[03:58] <Lenny> can anyone help me with "Ubuntu on USB flash drive"?
[05:55] <aquiles> Hello dear community
[05:56] <aquiles> I wonder if you any of you can answer one question that I've been trying to figuer out for almost 2 hours
[05:57] <aquiles> I just installed Edubuntu for my twin girls here at home and when running the update I'm getting the following error:
[05:57] <aquiles> "xfonts-75dpi is missing final newline. Does any knows what this means?
[06:04] <LaserJock> hmm, weird
[06:04] <LaserJock> what version of Edubuntu?
[06:10] <aquiles> hi sorry
[06:10] <aquiles> the version is 7.04
[06:10] <LaserJock> and how are you updating?
[06:11] <aquiles> I did it by using the update software that prompts you on the right hand side corner of the screen (Sorry I do not the name of it)
[06:12] <aquiles> also I have try the the command line of "sudo apt-get upgrade" and it keeps showing the same error message
[06:23] <LaserJock> aquiles: ok, can you paste the command line error message to a pastebin
[06:23] <LaserJock> !pastebin
[06:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:24] <aquiles> yes, I was trying to get save the command line in text and I was moving it to another machine... here it is
[06:24] <aquiles> Selecting previously deselected package openssh-server.
[06:24] <aquiles> (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-server_1%3a4.3p2-8ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[06:24] <aquiles>  files list file for package `xfonts-75dpi' is missing final newline
[06:28] <aquiles> ubotu here is the url that you requested http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28297/
[08:58] <LaserJock> hi RichEd
[08:58] <RichEd> Hi LaserJock ... how are you this evening ?
[08:58] <LaserJock> tired :-)
[08:59] <LaserJock> RichEd: I got some work done on addon-enhancements, http://laserjock.us/files/gai.png
[09:00] <RichEd> great :) will take a look
[09:00] <LaserJock> I pushed a bzr branch with the needed changes to LP
[09:00] <LaserJock> I just need ogra and cjwatson to look them over
[09:19] <Burgundavia> hey RichEd, LaserJock
[09:19] <RichEd> hi Burgundavia :)
[09:22] <LaserJock> hi Burgundavia
[09:22] <LaserJock> RichEd: did you have a chance to read my email?
[09:26] <RichEd> LaserJock: afraid not ... but need to go through it this morning ... have a chat with mark later
[09:27] <LaserJock> RichEd: np, just wondered if I was loosing mail, I've set up my email different so I want to make sure I'm not missing anything important
[01:40] <pips1> hi everyone
[08:45] <jonfhancock> Is there anyone who can give me a hand with dhcp?
[08:49] <moquist> jonfhancock: you can have <IP_ADDRESS>, netmask <IP_ADDRESS>, gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:49] <moquist> jonfhancock: :)
[08:49] <moquist> jonfhancock: what's the question?
[08:51] <jonfhancock> Why thanks!
[08:51] <jonfhancock> I'm trying to set up an edubuntu server.
[08:51] <moquist> a worthy goal, indeed.
[08:51] <jonfhancock> dhcp refuses to start
[08:51] <moquist> k
[08:51] <jonfhancock> Let me get the syslog.
[08:52] <jonfhancock> Jul  3 11:35:32 ebay-server-linux dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth0 (<IP_ADDRESS>).
[08:52] <jonfhancock> Jul  3 11:35:32 ebay-server-linux dhcpd: ** Ignoring requests on eth0.  If this is not what
[08:52] <jonfhancock> Jul  3 11:35:32 ebay-server-linux dhcpd:    you want, please write a subnet declaration
[08:52] <jonfhancock> Jul  3 11:35:32 ebay-server-linux dhcpd:    in your dhcpd.conf file for the network segment
[08:52] <jonfhancock> Jul  3 11:35:32 ebay-server-linux dhcpd:    to which interface eth0 is attached. **
[08:52] <jonfhancock> Jul  3 11:35:32 ebay-server-linux dhcpd:
[08:52] <jonfhancock> Jul  3 11:35:32 ebay-server-linux dhcpd:
[08:52] <jonfhancock> Jul  3 11:35:32 ebay-server-linux dhcpd: Not configured to listen on any interfaces!
[08:52] <moquist> jonfhancock: do you have a network adapter with an IP address inside the network for which you will provide DHCP?
[08:52] <moquist> jonfhancock: that tells us -- nope, you don't.
[08:52] <jonfhancock> I guess not
[08:52] <moquist> jonfhancock: if you're handing out DHCP for a range within 192.168.0.x, set your server IP address to something in that range -- such as <IP_ADDRESS>.
[08:53] <moquist> If you need to keep the IP address you have (all our IP addresses are 10.x.x.x), edit /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to hand out IP addresses in the range you have, instead of 192.168.x.x.
[08:54] <jonfhancock> I'm sorry, I'm a little confused.  The ip on ath (to the web) doesn't matter right.  It's only on eth0 (to the lan) that I'm concerned with?
[08:56] <moquist> yes
[08:57] <jonfhancock> Ok.  So, say I want to use a range like 192.168.160.x
[08:57] <jonfhancock> I would set eth0 as static at <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:58] <moquist> either that or <IP_ADDRESS> is recommended
[08:58] <jonfhancock> with a subnet of <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:58] <jonfhancock> k
[08:58] <moquist> sounds good so far
[08:58] <moquist> then your range statement in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf must be <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> or smaller.
[08:59] <moquist> It would be good to leave room for some static hosts on at least one end, of course.
[08:59] <moquist> There's no reason to make your DHCP range vastly larger than the largest number of hosts you expect.
[08:59] <moquist> e.g., if you know you only have 20 thin clients, I would set your range to something like:
[08:59] <moquist> range <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>;
[09:00] <moquist> but remember that addresses in that range will also be used by *any* DHCP clients on that network, not just thin clients.
[09:00] <jonfhancock> Ah yes.. My printer and so on
[09:00] <moquist> so if you have 20 TCs but groups of 75 with laptops come in for meetings sometimes, you have to account for that.
[09:00] <jonfhancock> ok
[09:01] <jonfhancock> I'm not too worried about that.
[09:01] <moquist> I'd rather over-explain than under-explain. :)
[09:01] <jonfhancock> naturally
[09:01] <jonfhancock> So here's what I have in dhcpd.conf
[09:02] <jonfhancock> authoritative;
[09:02] <jonfhancock> subnet <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> {
[09:02] <jonfhancock>   range <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>;
[09:02] <jonfhancock>   option domain-name "example.com";
[09:02] <jonfhancock>   option domain-name-servers <IP_ADDRESS>;
[09:02] <jonfhancock>   option broadcast-address <IP_ADDRESS>;
[09:02] <jonfhancock>   option routers <IP_ADDRESS>;
[09:02] <jonfhancock>   option subnet-mask <IP_ADDRESS>;
[09:02] <jonfhancock>   if substring( option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9 ) = "PXEClient" {
[09:02] <jonfhancock>     filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0";
[09:02] <jonfhancock>   }
[09:02] <jonfhancock>   else{
[09:02] <jonfhancock>     filename "/ltsp/i386/nbi.img";
[09:02] <jonfhancock>   }
[09:02] <jonfhancock>   option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";
[09:02] <jonfhancock> }
[09:05] <moquist> jonfhancock: it's considered polite not to paste stuff in IRC; use something like http://rafb.net/paste/
[09:05] <jonfhancock> Sorry.
[09:05] <moquist> jonfhancock: I'm nice. Other people would kick you from the channel (probably not this one, though) for doing that. :)
[09:05] <moquist> jonfhancock: NP.
[09:05] <jonfhancock> I'll remember that
[09:05] <moquist> Well, I don't have privs to kick you here, even if I were mean. So you're very, very safe. :-D
[09:05] <jonfhancock> haha
[09:05] <stgraber> never try doing that on #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu :)
[09:06] <jonfhancock> empty promises... ;)
[09:06] <moquist> Yeah, it can really cause a lot of confusion in high traffic channels.
[09:06] <jonfhancock> I'm sure.  although, I don't plan on spending much time in #ubuntu-devel...
[09:06] <stgraber> btw, this dhcpd.conf seems to be ok, now you'll need to put <IP_ADDRESS> on your NIC (if not already done) and restart dhcpd
[09:07] <jonfhancock> That's what I've done.
[09:07] <moquist> jonfhancock: looks OK; do you have <IP_ADDRESS> set up to do routing to the Internet?
[09:07] <jonfhancock> can you elaborate?
[09:07] <moquist> jonfhancock: http://rafb.net/p/nkEKaa53.html
[09:08] <moquist> jonfhancock: it only matters if you'll have thick-clients on the network, too
[09:08] <moquist> i.e., if a machine gets its DHCP from your server, it will try to get to the Internet through <IP_ADDRESS>, which must then serve as a gateway
[09:08] <jonfhancock> I haven't, but all my clients should be thin
[09:08] <moquist> ok, then no problem.
[09:09] <moquist> you don't actually need the option routers line at all in that case. (but I would leave it, anyway)
[09:09] <jonfhancock> k
[09:10] <jonfhancock> Is that something I could do for good measure, without risk of making my problem worse?
[09:10] <jonfhancock> just in case I do have a thick client one day
[09:14] <moquist> shouldn't really make a difference; I wouldn't mess with it unless you need to
[09:14] <jonfhancock> k
[09:15] <moquist> what I sent is only a runtime thing, BTW. you'd want to take care of ip_forward in sysctl.conf, and probably save the iptables with whatever mechanism does that.
[09:15] <moquist> ogra: ping?
[09:15] <jonfhancock> so to sum up, dhcpd.conf is configured ok, and the nic is asigned <IP_ADDRESS>, but dhcp3 still fails to start.
[09:16] <moquist> ?
[09:16] <moquist> that's odd.
[09:16] <moquist> paste your syslog at rafb :-)
[09:16] <moquist> LaserJock: http://rafb.net/p/91gwVf77.html
[09:17] <moquist> LaserJock: I was all ready to ask ogra about that, but then you showed up. :-D
[09:17] <moquist> LaserJock: I just asked that in #ubuntu-motu and go no response (yet)
[09:18] <jonfhancock> http://rafb.net/p/xJbLQs32.html
[09:18] <jonfhancock> syslog
[09:18] <LaserJock> moquist: I think it's generally frowned on to put executables in places other than */bin/
[09:18] <moquist> jonfhancock: also paste the output from `ip addr` and your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf NOTE: /etc/****ltsp****/dhcpd.conf
[09:18] <moquist> LaserJock: k
[09:19] <LaserJock> moquist: so is there only one perl script that is executed?
[09:19] <moquist> LaserJock: so the right thing to do is spread the .pm files and the data dir out on the system?
[09:19] <moquist> LaserJock: Hmm. No. There are a small handful of them.
[09:19] <LaserJock> moquist: one thing you can do, I think, is house them in /usr/share/<packagname> and just symlink from /usr/bin/ to there
[09:20] <moquist> LaserJock: I think that sounds like a straightforward option; I'll do that for now.
[09:21] <jonfhancock> etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf and id addr http://rafb.net/p/gBIKDa26.html
[09:21] <moquist> jonfhancock: eth0 has no IP address
[09:22] <moquist> jonfhancock: is there a dhclient3 process running for eth0?
[09:22] <moquist> jonfhancock: note the inet <IP_ADDRESS> line under ath0; you have no inet line under eth0
[09:22] <jonfhancock> I don't know
[09:22] <jonfhancock> I see
[09:22] <moquist> jonfhancock: ps auxwwf | grep dhclient3
[09:23] <jonfhancock> http://rafb.net/p/4Ml8mr63.html
[09:23] <moquist> jonfhancock: you're a totally model citizen now. :-)
[09:24] <jonfhancock> aww:-*
[09:24] <moquist> "totally model". Hmm.
[09:24] <moquist> jonfhancock: that looks good. I would do something like the following, and then see if dhcpd restarts:
[09:24] <moquist> sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:25] <jonfhancock> BAM!
[09:25] <jonfhancock> started fine!
[09:25] <moquist> oh, good.
[09:25] <jonfhancock> haha
[09:25] <jonfhancock> I suppose that could mean my server exploded...
[09:26] <moquist> jonfhancock: you should see the <IP_ADDRESS> address showing up in /etc/network/interfaces if it's properly configured
[09:27] <jonfhancock> indeed I do!
[09:29] <jonfhancock> my thin client now gets an ip address, but won't boot.  PXE-E11:  ARP timeout
[09:29] <jonfhancock> TFTP cannot open connection...
[09:29] <jonfhancock> :'(
[09:31] <jonfhancock> Unfortunatly, I have to go now.  Thanks for the help with dhcp at least!
[10:45] <acc-akut> hi
[10:45] <acc-akut> ogra
[10:49] <acc-akut> das prob mit dem laden  konnte ich immernoch nich beheben


[07:45] <learningDude> hello
[07:51] <lotuspsychje_> welcome learningDude
[07:51] <learningDude> thx.
[07:54] <learningDude> was looking for more info on 18.04 and 19.10 - basic NAT / DNSMASQ - Wondering if anyone had some time?
[07:55] <lotuspsychje_> learningDude: best to ask your specific issue to the channel, then wait if volunteers can help you
[08:01] <learningDude> IP forwarding and routing - along with NAT - So - I have address x.x.0.1/24 WAN Side and I want to MASQ my subnet x.x.1.1 with hosts on x.x.1.0 network to be able to run apt and configure software.
[08:03] <learningDude> Are the NAT rules still applied with IP tables?
[08:22] <ducasse> depends on the rules. at this time you might have better luck in ##networking, quiet here outside of eu office hours
[09:51] <RoyK> lotuspsychje: no reason to scare people to leave - we're always a set of ppl hanging out here in the weekends as well, albeit a small set, it shouldn't be a problem to answer that question
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> RoyK: i wasnt trying to scare them away, but elaborate their issue so everyone can read it
[15:09] <kierank> Is "post-up" in ifupdown allowed to be used with vlans?
[15:10] <kierank> it doesn't seem to apply


[01:10] <zacarias> I have installed Nautilus, but there are no icons. Actually, there is just a generic white icon for all the folders, no theme icons. Any idea?
[01:14] <SIR_Taco_> zacarias: possibly install 'gnome-icon-theme-full' ? Nautilus is a GTK program... KDE is based on Qt
[01:23] <zacarias> SIR_Taco_: Thanks, I'll try that
[01:28] <zacarias> SIR_Taco_: Well, now I have the icons, it worked, but... I don't have my KDE theme (Faenza) icons, but some awful icons... :-)
[01:32] <SIR_Taco_> zacarias: ok... what settings do you have under System Settings -> Application Appearance -> GTK Appearance
[01:36] <Crell> Hi folks.  I've an odd problem.  In my KDE System Settings, I have firefox set as my default web browser.  In Thunderbird, though (and possibly other programs), clicking links always opens in Chrome.
[01:36] <Crell> How do I force it to listen to my default and use Firefox?
[01:37] <zacarias> SIR_Taco_: Widget Style: oxygen-gtk, and "Use my KDE fonts on GTK+ applications"
[01:38] <SIR_Taco_> zacarias: do you have "gtk configuration" as an option on the left?
[01:39] <zacarias> SIR_Taco_: No :-(
[01:39] <SIR_Taco_> zacarias: what version of KDE are you using?
[01:39] <zacarias> 4.8. I'm on Kubuntu 12.04
[01:40] <zacarias> SIR_Taco_: 4.8. I'm on Kubuntu 12.04
[01:41] <zacarias> SIR_Taco_: I noticed I have a kde-config-gtk package installed
[01:47] <SIR_Taco_> might be worth updating to the latest backports if you don't have the following: http://postimage.org/image/n5bnfpmzr/   http://postimage.org/image/yrbi4wdp7/
[01:48] <SIR_Taco_> then you can remove the gnome icon theme
[01:49] <zacarias> SIR_Taco_: You're right, I don't have those option. I'll try to see what happens. Thanks!
[02:40] <capitaninsaneoh> I accidentially added lamp to my desktop (2 consoles open) and I removed it and lost KDE.  I've since put it back with apt-get install kubuntu-desktop but now I still see Mysql running on 3306.  Is this right?
[02:41] <capitaninsaneoh> Should it be there or should i remove it?  How do I remove ONLY it and not KDE
[02:41] <shadeslayer> just installing kubuntu-desktop won't remove LAMP
[02:41] <shadeslayer> apt-get doesn't work that way
[02:42] <capitaninsaneoh> I removed AMP with tasksel
[02:42] <capitaninsaneoh> but it left mysql
[02:42] <shadeslayer> amarok uses mysql iirc
[02:43] <SIR_Taco_> yes it does, and akondai too I believe
[02:43] <shadeslayer> % apt-cache depends amarok | grep mysql                                                                      shadeslayer@solembum
[02:43] <shadeslayer>   Depends: libmysqlclient18
[02:43] <shadeslayer>   Suggests: libqt4-sql-mysql
[02:43] <shadeslayer> so yeah
[02:43] <FloodBotK1> shadeslayer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:43] <shadeslayer> FloodBotK1: oh you
[02:45] <capitaninsaneoh> But it never showed up as an open port (from an nmap scan) before I messed my machine up
[03:08] <Crell> Hi folks.  I've an odd problem.  In my KDE System Settings, I have firefox set as my default web browser.  In Thunderbird, though (and possibly other programs), clicking links always opens in Chrome.  How do I force it to listen to my default and use Firefox?
[03:12] <uglyoldbob> im having a problem with a raid array, I see a removed drive in the array and cant figure out how to remove it using mdadm
[03:20] <capitaninsaneoh> Can I remove mysql without removing KDE?
[03:24] <capitaninsaneoh> Should mysql port be visible to nmap scan on Kubuntu machine 12.04?
[03:25] <capitaninsaneoh> I remember IPP and Cups should be there but don't remember mysql port 3306
[03:28] <uglyoldbob> port 3306 is the mysql server, it would indicate that is running
[03:31] <capitaninsaneoh> uglyoldbob, how do I disable it?
[03:32] <uglyoldbob> do you have any need for it at all?
[03:33] <uglyoldbob> try "dpkg -l | grep mysql" (the first is an ehl adn the second is pipe)
[03:34] <uglyoldbob> it should show a list of packages related to mysql
[03:34] <capitaninsaneoh> sudo update-rc.d mysql-server remove
[03:34] <capitaninsaneoh> ?
[03:35] <uglyoldbob> i dont think that is the best solution for you
[03:35] <uglyoldbob> you should be able to completely remove it with "sudo apt-get remove mysql-server"
[03:35] <capitaninsaneoh> wont that remove kde
[03:36] <uglyoldbob> it will show a list of packages that it wants to remove and ask you yes/no
[03:36] <capitaninsaneoh> it claims its not installed
[03:36] <capitaninsaneoh> but nmap shows 3306 open
[03:37] <uglyoldbob> what is the output of "dpkg -l | grep mysql" ?
[03:37] <capitaninsaneoh> but not from remote
[03:38] <capitaninsaneoh> http://paste.kde.org/566570/
[03:40] <capitaninsaneoh> uglyoldbob, that pastebin is for you
[03:42] <uglyoldbob> try "sudo apt-get -s remove mysql-server-5.5"
[03:51] <capitaninsaneoh> not installed
[04:00] <pepee> reboot?
[04:01] <pepee> ah, he left
[06:42] <14WAAITY1> Quassel IRc (12.04) doesn't obey my language settings, I've got LANGUAGE=en.GB-utf8, LANG=en.GB-utf8, but still my Quassel IRC client is using norwegian language. Anybody had similar problems ?
[06:43] <cosmicb> Quassel IRc (12.04) doesn't obey my language settings, I've got LANGUAGE=en.GB-utf8, LANG=en.GB-utf8, but still my Quassel IRC client is using norwegian language. Anybody had similar problems ?
[06:43] <lordievader> !patience | cosmicb
[06:43] <cosmicb> I'm in norway though, but I've always used english lang
[06:44] <cosmicb> lordievader: didn't mean to stress, ust noticed my nick was wrong and that I was on FreeNode in an other channel
[06:44] <lordievader> cosmicb: No worries.
[06:45] <cosmicb> :)
[06:45] <cosmicb> I do have setup several locale's in my .bashrc where I f.example use nb_NO-utf8 for lc_numeric and others, see http://pastebin.com/uG2Atudn
[06:46] <cosmicb> mabye Quassel is getting confused (?)
[06:46] <lordievader> cosmicb: What does you locale variable say? (In a terminal run "locale")
[06:47] <cosmicb> lordievader see http://pastebin.com/uG2Atudn
[06:48] <lordievader> cosmicb: You would think it would simply be in English, wouldn't you.
[06:48] <cosmicb> lordievader (?)
[06:49] <lordievader> cosmicb: Doesn't Quassel have its own language settings? Independent from the locale variable?
[06:49] <cosmicb> lordievader: looking into it
[06:49]  * cosmicb havent been in kde for many many years
[06:51] <cosmicb> lordievader: you're right, it did have it's own language settings. I missed that setting the first time I checked :p
[06:51]  * cosmicb passing a beer to lordievader
[06:52] <lordievader> cosmicb: Beer early in the morning? Can you make it coffee :P
[06:53] <cosmicb> lordievader: you're right ! here you go :p
[06:53] <lordievader> cosmicb: :)
[06:55] <Guest99153> I have a serious issue. a tech came over and was hooked up to my router . now theres a rouge mac address that keeps appearing tho i blocked it . it still pops up after deletion so theres something left in my house i beleave . also he/she setup a 2nd bridge in prmiscous mode what do i do!!!!!!
[06:56] <whyme1234> anyone heard of such a thing
[06:56] <cosmicb> Guest99153 : I'd find the ip address for that mac and nmap it
[06:56] <lordievader> whyme: Try ##networking, this is a Kubuntu support channel.
[06:56] <whyme1234> i did
[06:57] <whyme1234> all 1000 ports closed
[06:57] <cosmicb> whyme1234 follow lordievaders advise
[07:25] <Smurphy> Morning ....
[08:21] <fuzzles> ive got a question how come when i used to use ubuntu it was good till unity only cuz unity isnt me switched to linux mint for ages but packages always breaking and now using kubuntu nd packages are fine what is mint doign to messing up the os?
[08:22] <DarthFrog> fuzzles: Wrong place to ask.  We're Kubuntu support, not Linux Mint.
[08:24] <fuzzles> DarthFrog: i know im suing kubuntu now i was just curious of the case if anyone knows because its ubuntu bases yet there packages always break
[08:24] <DarthFrog> Perhaps they're not doing sufficient amount of testing prior to release.
[08:27] <fuzzles> DarthFrog: ok thanks its because of the breaking i finally left them and as i liked there kde and found out they just use kubuntu repos thats what i tried
[08:47] <lxuser__> huhu
[08:47] <lxuser_> test test
[08:47] <lxuser__> blbubb
[08:48] <lxuser__> kannnoob
[08:56] <CosmicB> hmm, where do I change mouse theme in kde (kubuntu 12.04) ?
[08:57] <lordievader> CosmicB: System Settings -> Workspace Appearance -> Cursor Theme
[08:58] <CosmicB> lordievader: AH, thnx
[08:58]  * CosmicB like Oxygen White
[09:22] <Peace-> CosmicB: there is a serch box btw
[09:22] <Peace-> search*
[09:23] <CosmicB> Peace : yeah, tride that one, but I didn't get the hint :p
[09:24] <CosmicB> my head connects workspace with virtual desktops :\ , if I'd hold my mous over workspace appearance I'd figured it out though :)
[09:32] <lordievader> The System Settings is very illogic if you ask me...
[09:34] <hateball> I think there was a GSoC project to sort it out for 4.10 or some such
[09:34]  * hateball just uses krunner
[09:36] <Peace-> lordievader: i dunno i always search
[09:36] <Peace-> and fount it out
[09:36] <Peace-> CosmicB: mmm look at the list http://wstaw.org/m/2012/10/11/plasma-desktopfk1909.png
[09:37] <Peace-> there is mouse theme
[09:37] <CosmicB> Peace: thnx
[09:38] <CosmicB> Peace what are U running in your panel, those application icons (?) looking nice.
[09:39] <Peace-> CosmicB: that is my own panel made in javascript
[09:39] <Peace-> it's called icontask
[09:39] <CosmicB> Peace: ah, nice !
[09:40] <Peace-> CosmicB: there is a packaged debian in my ppa btw
[09:41] <CosmicB> Peace: ok, cool feature, I might try that out
[09:41] <Peace-> CosmicB: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=147589
[09:41] <CosmicB> Peace : already there :p
[09:41] <Peace-> CosmicB: you can try it out even now without install that
[09:41] <Peace-> if you do sudo apt-get install plasma-wdiget-* it will install a lots of stuff it should be ... plasma-widget-icontask
[09:47] <CosmicB> everytime I'm back in kde I'm wondering what made me use gnome (and recently unity) for so long :p
[09:51] <CosmicB> Peace: nice work ! I'm gonna check out those panels more thorough at a later time
[13:15] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:15] <ptomblin> hi
[14:49] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[14:56] <monkeyjuice> hey there phoenix_firebrd
[14:57] <phoenix_firebrd> monkeyjuice: hi
[17:31] <bjrohan> Is there a widget that allows you to see, compose, and reply to gmail on your desktop by chance? I have found the gmail notifier.
[18:17] <orated> Hello! Kubuntu 12.04 KDE 4.8.5 Under System Settings > Display and Monitor > Screen Saver .. I've enabled "Allow widgets on screen saver" option. I've a virtual keyboard widget added in screen saver to test whether it can allow me to type password using it instead of keyboard. But, it doesn't. It allows either the widget or the unlock dialog to work independently, not simultaneously. Is there a way I can have the widget work to unlock screen?
[18:22] <milovan> hi, is there a way to set numpad numbers as shortcuts in kde?
[18:22] <insulina> hello, may shift keys just stop working, how can i solve this '
[18:26] <orated> milovan: Krunner (Alt+F2) > Keyboard Shortcuts
[21:04] <Mcklaren> hi
[22:17] <bjrohan> I have Samba I believe installed on 2 computers, one Ubuntu the other Kubuntu. I would like to access the Ubuntu machine's drives/folders, how do I do this from my Kubuntu machine? Everything is set up properly, as I can get to both machines via my android phone albeit using internet vs intarnet setup
[22:29] <ner0x> Is it possible to save all my settings and move them to another computer?
[22:30] <jessie> ner0x: Copy you .kde and .config directories in your home directory.
[22:30] <jessie> That should pretty well cover your KDE settings.
[22:30] <jessie> If you want to copy all your settings, copying your whole home directory should cover that pretty well.
[22:31] <bjrohan> How do I go about finding other computers on my home network in Kubuntu?
[22:33] <uomo_bonga> you want to find samba shares?
[22:33] <bjrohan> Yes
[22:33] <bjrohan> I have Samba on both machines, I also have the office machine I am looking for set up as a static IP
[22:34] <uomo_bonga> ok, do you don't find them on dolphin right?
[22:35] <bjrohan> I don't. In dolphin on the right I clicked Network, then selected FTP, placed the network address for the computer I am looking for but I get an error message
[22:36] <jessie> Samba is not the same as FTP
[22:36] <bjrohan> How to I use the Samba Share? When I go to the option in Dolphin all I see is workgroups
[22:37] <jessie> Select the workgroup your computers are in.
[22:37] <jessie> Then your computer should come up.
[22:37] <bjrohan> That is where I now get lost
[22:37] <bjrohan> I only see what looks like a default workgroup icon
[22:37] <bjrohan> How do I make sure that Sambma share is set up right on both computers?
[22:38] <jessie> That, I can't really help you with.
[22:38] <jessie> My Samba skills are not amazing.
[22:39] <uomo_bonga> so inside "workgroup" you don't find any share?
[22:40] <bjrohan> I don't. I am not 100% positive that either system is set up correctly :-(
[22:40] <uomo_bonga> ok, do you know the ip address of the host with the remote share?
[22:41] <bjrohan> <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:41] <bjrohan> for internal router of course
[22:41] <uomo_bonga> ok, now try this
[22:41] <bjrohan> I did just open the KDE Samba control panel and it says I don't have a config file
[22:41] <bjrohan> ok
[22:41] <uomo_bonga> open dolphin properties and check the option "editable location bar"
[22:42] <bjrohan> did that
[22:42] <bjrohan> Or I should say Done now
[22:43] <uomo_bonga> put this on the location bar: smb://<IP_ADDRESS>
[22:43] <bjrohan> WHOOP there it is
[22:45] <uomo_bonga> found your shared folders?
[22:45] <bjrohan> Yep, that way I can
[22:46] <bjrohan> Now I can make a shortcut of these folders on the left pain and it will remain there?
[22:47] <uomo_bonga> check if you see the files, and if you can create a file (if you want write access)
[22:47] <uomo_bonga> yep that should probably work as long as the ip address of the remote machine doesn't changes
[22:51] <bjrohan> It shouldn't I have it set up in the router
[22:51] <bjrohan> I do have an issue in the other machine, I can't figure out where a USB drive mounts
[22:53] <DarthFrog> bjrohan:  Likely under /media
[22:54] <bjrohan> Na, not there, the floppies and CD-ROMs are
[22:55] <bjrohan> I don't have access to the root dir on that machine via samba, just media, and then my user directory. On that machine I can't find it either, using xfce on that one
[22:58] <uomo_bonga> check if it's mounted, write "mount" on a shell, if it's mounted you should see it listed
[23:06] <bjrohan> I rebooted that machine and it can now find it. Thank you for all your help!
[23:07] <uomo_bonga> :)
[23:09] <bjrohan> On a similar note, what is the best program in Kubuntu for backups to a drive on another computer?
[23:09] <bjrohan> Just looking to backup my home directory
[23:09] <Belial`> backintime-kde
[23:10] <bjrohan> ok
[23:10] <jessie> I love back in time.
[23:11] <jessie> My hourly backup just finished.
[23:11] <uomo_bonga> sounds like worth trying
[23:12] <jessie> It's similar to time machine, but a little more involved.
[23:12] <jessie> And by involved I mean configurable.
[23:12] <bjrohan> While on my laptop, and accessing the USB drive on my other machine, I can create folders, I can't seem to delete them, it says can't access trash
[23:26] <Belial`> there's one issue i have with backintime, and i think it's more or less with rsync..
[23:26] <Belial`> certain files won't copy over.
[23:26] <Belial`> is that because of the filesystem i'm using for my external?
[23:27] <sithlord48> what is the filesystem?
[23:27] <Belial`> fat32
[23:27] <Belial`> i forget the actual files that i had issues with. certain img files, certain video files.
[23:28] <sithlord48> then quite possibly . you can't store some characters in fat32 that you can in ext4
[23:28] <Belial`> ok
[23:28] <Belial`> i'll try formatting it to ext4
[23:29] <sithlord48> if you are only using it for back up you should also disable the reserve space on the drive
[23:29] <Belial`> ok
[23:29] <sithlord48> you can use the command "tune2fs -m 0 <device> . by default when you make an ext partition it will reserve 5% for roots use. if you are not booting from the drive then you don't need to reserve this space.
[23:31] <Belial`> thanks, sithlord48
[23:31] <sithlord48> your most welcome Belial`


[01:38] <bluesabre> Python 2.7 EOL has been moved to 2020
[01:42] <Unit193> That's good, I use stuff with py2.
[02:18] <sidi-valencia> sad
[02:19] <sidi-valencia> please dont write *new* code in py2 :(
[02:19] <Unit193> I don't wite it, I use existing and hack on it.
[02:50] <Logan_> Unit193: your hacking should include running 2to3 :P
[03:18] <stormlink> anyone around?
[03:23] <Logan_> stormlink: yeah, what's up?
[03:24] <stormlink> I've been lurking in the dev list for some time now, I want to start actually helping around
[03:24] <stormlink> not sure where to really start
[03:24] <stormlink> I do Python
[03:27] <Logan_> ali1234?
[03:33] <jphilipz> hi all, just found a bug in xfce that effects xubuntu and wanted to bring it to your attention
[03:36] <jphilipz> it involves thunar's calculation of file sizes
[03:40] <jphilipz> thunar is dividing by 1000 rather than 1024 when calculating kilobytes, megabytes and gigabytes
[03:40] <jphilipz> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10864
[10:36] <brainwash> interesting.. firefox launches significantly faster without irqbalance doing its magic in the background (sudo service irqbalance stop)
[10:37] <brainwash> fresh boot mainly
[10:37] <bluesabre> yay, I finally recreated the crash I've been trying to make knome do
[10:37] <knome> yay ;)
[10:37] <knome> so i don't need to?!
[10:37] <brainwash> buglibre?
[10:38] <bluesabre> oh
[10:38] <bluesabre> that stings
[10:38] <bluesabre> :'(
[10:38] <brainwash> :P
[10:38] <knome> lol
[10:38] <knome> i can though
[10:38] <knome> i could do that relatively soon
[10:38] <knome> wife's laptop is free
[10:38] <brainwash> coding a menu editor seems to be a tough job
[10:38] <bluesabre> I've got it now
[10:38] <bluesabre> first I had to get rid of the xubuntu menu files
[10:39] <bluesabre> the bug originates from the upstream xfce one
[10:39] <brainwash> the default Xfce session one?
[10:39] <bluesabre> /etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu
[10:39] <brainwash> how do they get mixed?
[10:40] <bluesabre> dunno
[12:17] <bluesabre> knome: latest commit should fix your issue
[12:17] <bluesabre> (re: menulibre)
[12:18]  * bluesabre downloads all ubuntu flavors for additional testing
[12:19] <knome> with the broken menu file, or should not be able to reproduce?
[12:43] <bluesabre> it probably won't work with the broken menu file
[12:43] <bluesabre> :(
[12:43] <bluesabre> but it will not break future menu files
[12:44] <bluesabre> I hardened the code
[12:44] <bluesabre> so, the reason it crashes is because I was not giving the correct name to xfce-settings.directory
[12:45] <bluesabre> so with the parent file, it was being added, and with the child file, it was being added again
[12:45] <bluesabre> (with a different name)
[12:45] <bluesabre> this caused gnome-menus to die
[12:47] <knome> >__<
[12:57] <bluesabre> and I never caught this before because I was using the xubuntu menu file
[12:57] <bluesabre> >.<
[12:59] <amigamagic> the shift-control-cursor_key thing with abiword was indeed a bug of the current 3.0.0 version: http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13596
[13:00] <sidi-valencia> https://github.com/Sidnioulz/SandboxUtils/tree/master/mockups/sfcd-autocompletion
[13:00] <sidi-valencia> oops
[13:00] <sidi-valencia> that was for shimmer
[13:04] <amigamagic> anyway I think very few people use abiword instead of libreoffice write (maybe xubuntu should switch from abiword -> write?). I'm using it now (abiword) to write some notes, because I'm too lazy to install libreoffice... :D
[13:09] <amigamagic> hey, people, do you know that linux kernel 3.13.x branch is now in its EOL stage (check https://www.kernel.org/)? This means no more support and bugfixes from kernel mantainers...  Shouldn't we switch to a supported stable branch like the 3.14.x one?
[13:09] <brainwash> no, the ubuntu guys will maintain 3.13
[13:09] <knome> amigamagic, we're not the team that supports the kernel whatsoever
[13:11] <amigamagic> brainwash, so the ubuntu guys will mantain the kernel 3.13 line their self with stuff like bugfixes, security fixes, etc., albeit the main developers of the kernel don't support it anymore?
[13:12] <brainwash> yes
[13:12] <brainwash> it's a kernel with a custom config and ubuntu specific patches after all
[13:16] <amigamagic> ok, thanks for the info. I read from the changelog that 3.14 kernel has a better support for last intel integrated gpu so I would like to try it on a machine (Intel Xeon with integrated intel GPU on the same die) that has some little graphics troubles with previous kernel.
[13:16] <amigamagic> Do you think I can try 3.14 kernel on ubuntu?
[13:16] <amigamagic> Is there some backport repository or something like that?
[13:17] <bluesabre> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[13:17] <bluesabre> unsupported, but better than installing yourself
[13:17] <amigamagic> thanks bluesabre!
[13:17] <bluesabre> when the next ubuntu release is available, it's kernel version will be available to trusty as well
[13:18] <bluesabre> I used those packages in 13.10 because my laptop needed the newest
[13:19] <amigamagic> sorry for the very ignorant question, but how can I install this on a ubuntu machine? linux-image-3.14.1-031401-generic_3.14.1-031401.201404141220_amd64.deb
[13:20] <amigamagic> I double click on it and it does it all by himself?
[13:22] <bluesabre> download each of the files for your architecture
[13:22] <bluesabre> then open a terminal to your Downloads folder
[13:22] <bluesabre> and do
[13:23] <bluesabre> sudo dpkg -i linux*.deb
[13:23] <bluesabre> also, grab the _all one as well
[13:23] <bluesabre> this should cover any bases, including dkms modules
[13:24] <amigamagic> very thanks, bluesabre ;)
[13:24] <bluesabre> oh wait
[13:24] <brainwash> but it does not include new firmware files
[13:24] <bluesabre> don't grab the lowlatency ones
[13:24] <bluesabre> right, but for most things they are set up with dkms, so they will be set up when the kernel is installed
[13:24] <sidi-valencia> amigamagic, brainwash yes you should switch D:
[13:25] <brainwash> distro? or what? :P
[13:25] <sidi-valencia> ahah
[13:25] <sidi-valencia> *i* did not say that
[13:25] <sidi-valencia> kernel
[13:25] <bluesabre> regardless, your previous kernel versions will remain installed, and you can switch between them in grub
[13:25] <brainwash> ah, still running 3.11 on my main system
[13:26] <amigamagic> brainwash, what's that new firmware files thing?
[13:26] <sidi-valencia> amigamagic, there is a PPA somewhere from ubuntu-kernel with the latest kernels
[13:27] <brainwash> amigamagic: ignore it right now
[13:27] <brainwash> you might need some new firmware files if you are using brand new hardware
[13:28] <brainwash> but the kernel install routine should tell you what's missing
[13:29] <amigamagic> do you think something that now works with an ubuntu 12.04 lts distro, could break after installing the kernel 3.14 ?
[13:29] <sidi-valencia> amigamagic, no?
[13:29] <sidi-valencia> unless there are bugs, why would it break
[13:29] <sidi-valencia> the two issues you can get are: bugs and no-longer-supported firmware
[13:29] <amigamagic> I mean, some hardware that before worked and now it is not more recognized... It's possible?
[13:30] <amigamagic> ethernet cards, gpu, etc.
[13:30] <sidi-valencia> yes
[13:30] <brainwash> everything is possible
[13:30] <sidi-valencia> if there is a proprietary driver
[13:30] <sidi-valencia> and they didnt update it
[13:30] <sidi-valencia> it could be possible
[13:45] <amigamagic> ok so I should only try... thanks
[19:30] <brainwash> elfy: bug 1315716
[19:30] <brainwash> the upstream report is targeting xfdesktop and not thunar
[19:31] <elfy> then change one - obviously the same bug
[19:31] <brainwash> mmh, the ubuntu one does not mention "desktop" at all
[19:32] <brainwash> so I would assume that it is a general problem
[19:45] <elfy> certainly don't get a confirmation here
[19:49] <elfy> left a comment for them to read or ignore
[19:50] <elfy> if they confirm I'll sort the packages out on it - if they don't I'll ask them to check again ;)
[19:50] <brainwash> elfy: thanks


[07:31] <apw> jbicha, i think that is actually nbs in -proposed, will see if that sorts it out
[08:48] <apw> jbicha, looks to have done the trick
[09:52] <apw> infinity, bug #1652147 seems to indicate that if someone was on trusty and got the broke 1.21.4* shim and upgraded to xenial they would _then_ have an unbootable combination; dunno if we need a .is. upload there?
[09:54] <smb> btw, I updated the report now with explanation and work-around
[11:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gyoto [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [1.2.0-2ubuntu1]
[11:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gyoto [armhf] (zesty-proposed) [1.2.0-2ubuntu1]
[11:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gyoto [powerpc] (zesty-proposed) [1.2.0-2ubuntu1]
[11:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gyoto [s390x] (zesty-proposed) [1.2.0-2ubuntu1]
[11:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted yaz [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [5.19.2-0ubuntu1]
[11:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted yaz [armhf] (zesty-proposed) [5.19.2-0ubuntu1]
[11:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted yaz [powerpc] (zesty-proposed) [5.19.2-0ubuntu1]
[11:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted yaz [s390x] (zesty-proposed) [5.19.2-0ubuntu1]
[11:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gyoto [arm64] (zesty-proposed) [1.2.0-2ubuntu1]
[11:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gyoto [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed) [1.2.0-2ubuntu1]
[11:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted yaz [arm64] (zesty-proposed) [5.19.2-0ubuntu1]
[11:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted yaz [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed) [5.19.2-0ubuntu1]
[11:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: olefile [amd64] (zesty-proposed/none) [0.43-1~ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[11:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted olefile [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [0.43-1~ubuntu1]
[12:56] <roaksoax> a/win 9
[13:04] <LocutusOfBorg> hi, can you please ignore why autopkgtestsuite?
[13:04] <LocutusOfBorg> Laney, ^^
[13:04] <LocutusOfBorg> that test was excluded in an Ubuntu specific diff, but now doko sync'd it
[13:09] <Laney> LocutusOfBorg: I guess so
[13:25] <LocutusOfBorg> Laney, do you prefer an ubuntu patch? I think ignoring it is the best solution
[13:27] <Laney> LocutusOfBorg: I don't really mind, probably not that important to have a delta over
[13:28] <Laney> would be good if people would follow through on their test-breaking syncs though :-)
[13:28] <Laney> thank you for pinging!
[13:28] <LocutusOfBorg> I guess so, a crippled autpkgtestsuite is not worth a delta
[13:28] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks for ignoring :)
[13:28] <LocutusOfBorg> hopefully ocaml will migrate
[13:31] <clivejo> Laney: is there any way to get KDE KF 5.28 force-allowed ?
[13:38] <LocutusOfBorg> clivejo, can't you retry some of the failed test against -proposed?
[13:39] <LocutusOfBorg> e.g. akonadi/amd64
[13:40] <clivejo> LocutusOfBorg: not sure what you mean?
[13:41] <LocutusOfBorg> clivejo, stuff is failing its autopkgtestsuite, because it is run against -release, not against -proposed
[13:41] <LocutusOfBorg> look e.g. http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/zesty/update_excuses.html#kservice
[13:41] <LocutusOfBorg> autopkgtest for kscreenlocker/5.7.5-0ubuntu1: armhf: Pass, i386: Regression ♻ , ppc64el: Regression ♻ , s390x: Pass
[13:41] <LocutusOfBorg> autopkgtest for kscreenlocker/5.8.5-0ubuntu1: amd64: Pass
[13:41] <LocutusOfBorg> retrying kscreenlocker i386 and ppc64el tests, against -proposed suite might make the testsuite pass
[13:42] <LocutusOfBorg> (append &all-proposed=1 at the end of the retry link)
[13:43] <clivejo> at this point we are expecting the landing of Qt5.7.1 as per Mirv comments above
[13:44] <LocutusOfBorg> I'm retrying some of them, just to see if proposed pocket is self consistent
[13:47] <LocutusOfBorg> I retried probably all of them, lets see
[13:47] <clivejo> LocutusOfBorg: in the past, we have requested a force-allow, do you know who can do that?
[13:55] <LocutusOfBorg> clivejo, you already pinged who can do that I guess :)
[13:55] <LocutusOfBorg> but some more green in the zesty updates excuses page is nice to have
[13:56] <LocutusOfBorg> it requires little effort to rerun against -proposed pocket, and avoids bad surprises
[13:57] <Laney> clivejo: Does the Kubuntu team work on the test failures that you get from autopkgtest?
[13:57] <Laney> Or just request to skip all failures?
[13:58] <clivejo> we are trying to, however we are seriously underpowered and lacking the people with the necessary knowledge/skills
[13:59] <clivejo> At this point, with Qt5.7.1 landing soon, we think its best to skip them
[13:59] <Laney> Fair enough --- I'm just wondering how much value they bring you/us
[14:00] <clivejo> 5.28 will be superseded by release time
[14:01] <clivejo> well we understand they are important and do intend to fix them before release, but at the moment they are causing a log jam in the entire KDE stack
[14:02] <Laney> For example every Qt upload triggers several hundred KDE tests, all of which rebuild the package (taking a long time), so if they aren't actually used by anyone ...
[14:03] <LocutusOfBorg> lol true story :)
[14:03] <Laney> clivejo: Anyway. Can you provide me with a list of packages that you want to skip? One per line: "force-badtest package/version"
[14:03] <Laney> Might want to wait a little bit for LocutusOfBorg's reruns to come in
[14:04] <clivejo> if anyone can see the problems in why the tests are failing please let us know
[14:04] <clivejo> we do need to learn :)
[14:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: barbican (xenial-proposed/universe) [1:2.0.0-0ubuntu1 => 1:2.0.0-0ubuntu1.1] (openstack)
[14:05] <Laney> Probably requires specific knowledge of the packages being tested
[14:05] <clivejo> yes, that is a problem, the KDE stack is huge
[14:22] <acheronuk> Laney: taking as an example http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#knotifications
[14:22] <acheronuk> would that be 'force-badtest package/version knotifications' ?
[14:23] <acheronuk> force-badtest knotifications/5.28.0-0ubuntu1 I mean
[14:25] <Laney> acheronuk: force-badtest is for the actual packages being tested - gwenview, kleopatra, konsole, kparts in this case
[14:25] <Laney> Still, like I say, probably wait a bit for the re-runs
[14:26] <acheronuk> Laney: aha! thank you
[14:28] <Laney> acheronuk: You can use force-skiptest on the triggering package (knotifications) to skip all the tests under that one
[14:28] <Laney> Which one you want to use depends on why you're trying to skip a test
[14:31] <acheronuk> Laney: so which in these cases, where we are looking to get these through?
[14:32] <mapreri> Can I ask for the diffoscope regression in armhf (against itself) to be ignored??
[14:42] <apw> mapreri, is there a reason behind that ?
[14:47] <mapreri> apw: That we (diffoscope dev, which includes me, damn) lacks enough tuits to fix it properly, but the error is really harmless; diffoscope works just fine on armhf, only the testsuite is very brittle and and picky on other tools output.
[14:50] <mapreri> also, the old version is deemed to block other packages soon, new version fixed compatibility with newer version of tools (for the comparison I said ↑)
[14:58] <apw> mapreri, done (hopefully)
[16:24] <mapreri> apw: Thank you!
[16:24] <mapreri> (+ it worked, guess you can now drop the hint too)
[16:28] <ginggs> mapreri: the hint is only for that version, see https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/britney/hints-ubuntu/revision/2166
[16:29] <mapreri> ginggs: ack (+ thanks for linking that, I didn't know where they are
[16:29] <mapreri> )
[16:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: docker.io (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1.12.3-0ubuntu4~16.10.1 => 1.12.3-0ubuntu4~16.10.2] (no packageset)
[16:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected docker.io [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1.12.3-0ubuntu4~16.10.2]
[16:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted docker.io [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1.12.3-0ubuntu4~16.10.2]
[17:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libatteanx-endpoint-perl [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.001-1] (no packageset)
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[17:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libatteanx-endpoint-perl [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [0.001-1]
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[17:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libatteanx-endpoint-perl [i386] (zesty-proposed) [0.001-1]
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[17:31] <apw> bdmurray, the docker.io SRU exception is not very clear to me, specifically i am assuming from the uploads that it is intended to imply an upstream minor release exception; is that correct ?
[17:33] <bdmurray> apw: "The aim is to backport the .1 release of a major version to the current LTS" - so yes
[17:33] <apw> bdmurray, right, i can take that to imply that we can take .2 et al, good
[20:31] <acheronuk> can someone force-badtest baloo-widgets5/4:16.04.3-0ubuntu1 ?
[20:32] <acheronuk> as soon as we are able after new QT lands, this will be replaced by KDE applications 16.12 upload anyway
[20:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-image (yakkety-proposed/universe) [0.12+16.10ubuntu1 => 0.13+16.10ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[20:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-image (xenial-proposed/universe) [0.12+16.04ubuntu1 => 0.13+16.04ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[21:00] <apw> acheronuk, done
[21:54] <LocutusOfBorg> Laney, why didn't you ignore why autopkgtestsuite? (affecting why, frama-c migration) /me pun intended
[21:57] <clivejo> LocutusOfBorg: may I PM you?
[21:59] <LocutusOfBorg> clivejo, sure
[21:59] <LocutusOfBorg> I'm going to bed BTW
[22:00] <clivejo> oh right, I won't bother you then!
[22:00] <LocutusOfBorg> no, feel free to PM
[22:03] <ginggs> LocutusOfBorg: see https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/britney/hints-ubuntu/revision/2164
[22:03] <ginggs> I don't know why that didn't work
[22:05] <LocutusOfBorg> interesting
[22:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-1.8 [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.8~beta2-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[22:12] <ginggs> i think all/all is not valid syntax, i only see one other occurence of it: force-badtest pbsuite/all/all (p.itti) - and that doesn't work because i recently had to request pbsuite/15.8.24+dfsg-2/i386 (s.tefanor)
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[22:19] <clivejo> can someone force-badtest kio/5.28.0-0ubuntu1 please?
[22:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-1.8 [arm64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.8~beta2-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
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