[14:17] <Guest2828> wilee-nilee, how you mean how is it packaged, not sure what that means, https://software-center.ubuntu.com does not give anyway to see how it is packaged
[14:18] <wilee-nilee> Guest2828, You can install it with the software center or install gdebi, personally I like gdebi.
[14:18] <Guest2828> wilee-nilee, its all good I'll just wait to see if they get things fixxed, tyvm for ur time , have a nice day : )
[14:19] <blazemore> wilee-nilee: Ubuntu comes with gdebi
[14:19] <blazemore> Guest2828: You'll be waiting a long time since "they" haven't actually done anything
[14:19] <wilee-nilee> blazemore, yeah, lol
[14:20] <wilee-nilee> you have to install gdebi now
[14:20] <wilee-nilee> not sure what release it started at
[14:21] <tree123> hi i hab a problem in my ubuntu 12.04 02, the browsers are unable to load pages and even ubuntu suftware are unable to install apps but torrent and other are working fine can any body help me with soln
[14:22] <blazemore> tree123: It sounds like your network requires an HTTP proxy for Internet traffic, does that sound familiar?
[14:22] <wheatthin> sounds like your resolv.conf isn't working too well
[14:22] <tree123> what has to b done for that i m weak in network
[14:23] <tree123> when i try to open web pages it says unable to load and might b connection problem but torrent is running fine
[14:24] <vlt> Hello. I have to access a remote “FTP over TLS” server to get a file. Which CLI client can I use?
[14:25] <wheatthin> tree123, can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[14:25] <wheatthin> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:25] <Pici> vlt: I've used lftp in the past.
[14:25] <MOUD> is there a cheat program like Artmoney or Cheat Engine for ubuntu?
[14:26] <tree123> wheatthin: yea
[14:26] <wheatthin> can you ping google.com?
[14:26] <tree123> nope
[14:27] <wheatthin> yup, your resolv is broken... you're using network manager? and are you using a router?
[14:28] <tree123> wheatin: yea i m using router
[14:28] <wilee-nilee> MOUD, Not a ubuntu support issue.
[14:28] <wheatthin> tree, can you pastebin your ifconfig eth0  ?
[14:29] <cfhowlett> !ot|MOUD,
[14:29] <Pici> err.. that sounds like a support question to me.  We answer things like that all the time.
[14:29] <MOUD> sorry, my bad
[14:30] <cfhowlett> Pici, if you can, please advise ...
[14:30] <wilee-nilee> Pici, A cheat for games is supported?
[14:31] <Pici> wilee-nilee: asking whether we have a similar package in the repositories is.  How to use it may not be though.
[14:31] <wilee-nilee> Ah. cool Pici
[14:31] <tree123> wheatthin: well as my browser is not working i m from windows
[14:32] <wheatthin> alright, can you pm me your network settings?
[14:32] <wilee-nilee> hard to imagine it not leading to that, however that is a projection.
[14:34] <Archguy> Hey, I installed b43legacy on my HP Pavilion zv5200 running Lubuntu (after checking lspci -vnn | grep 14e4) yet the wireless still doesn't seem to be working, as in, no wireless are showing up and I am literally as close as I can possibly be to my wireless
[14:35] <wheatthin> tree123, http://askubuntu.com/questions/2321/what-is-the-proper-way-to-change-the-dns-ip
[14:35] <wheatthin> follow that change your dns to either your router ip or <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:36] <wheatthin> and then try the internet again
[14:37] <tree123> wheatthin: thanks buddy for help :)
[14:37] <wheatthin> yup, lemme know if it works out
[14:38] <vlt> Pici: Thanks
[14:39] <Archguy> I have b43-fwcutter installed and firmware-b43legacy-installer, I have done and aptitude udate and upgrade and restarted my machine but still no wifi access points listed, any idea what I should try next?
[14:40] <wheatthin> Archguy, to begin with, you can try lsmod | grep b43
[14:41] <wilee-nilee> Archguy, I assume you have seen the broadcom wiki, not sure if it has more info that would help.
[14:41] <Archguy> wheatthin: http://pastie.org/8121366
[14:41] <wheatthin> Archguy, and if it's loaded, then you ifconfig wlan0
[14:42] <Archguy> wilee-nilee: Yeah, I also saw the wiki about bcm43xx and the note about  unsupported devices ("If your wifi card/chipset and/or various modes are not supported by the STA driver or the open source kernel drivers, then you will need to go for ndiswrapper - this will allow you to use the Windows closed source drivers to activate your wifi card."). How do I check if my device supports SAT drivers?
[14:42] <Archguy> wheatthin: ip li doesn't list wlan0
[14:43] <wheatthin> iwconfig wlan0
[14:43] <Archguy> wilee-nilee: STA*
[14:43] <wilee-nilee> Archguy, Not sure myself, I have not had to mess with broadcom
[14:43] <Archguy> wilee-nilee: I have and I got it working on a macbook pro running archlinux but ubuntu confuses me xD
[14:43] <Archguy> well now that I know arch that is **
[14:44] <Archguy> ^^ *
[14:44] <Archguy> wheatthin: $ iwconfig lo        no wireless extensions.  eth0      no wireless extensions.
[14:44] <wilee-nilee> Archguy, Heh, it can be that way, inspite of linux distros hardly are any different overall.
[14:45] <mirak> is it ok to do a multiboot where /boot is shared among linux installs ?
[14:45] <wheatthin> hmm.. wilee-nilee.. unless the option was left out of the kernel itself
[14:45] <Archguy> wheatthin & wilee-nilee: see wlan0 isn't listed although I have b43-fwcutter and firmware-b43legacy-installer installed (this is the output of lspci -vnn | grep 14e4 => 02:02.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4320] (rev 03))
[14:45] <mirak> I see some risks if we install twice the same version
[14:45] <mirak> though
[14:45] <TuxLover1284> anyone knows to do Hackintosh for amd 64?
[14:45] <Archguy> wheatthin & wilee-nilee: so see if you check the broadcom drivers page, b43legacy is indeed the right one for BCM4306
[14:45] <wheatthin> TuxLover1284, this isn't hackintosh channel or server
[14:45] <wilee-nilee> wheatthin, THat makes some sense, heh, if true.
[14:46] <BluesKaj> Archguy,  sudo ifconfig wlan0 up ,then , sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid
[14:46] <ezra-s> Archguy, which kernel were you using when you managed to make it working?
[14:46] <ezra-s> s/working/work
[14:46] <Archguy> BluesKaj: How do you want me to do that, wlan0 doesn't exist!
[14:47] <Archguy> ezra-s: I never managed to make the wireless work on an HP Pavilion zv5200 using Lubuntu
[14:47] <ezra-s> Archguy, you mentioned ARCH
[14:47] <BluesKaj> arc that's what the scan means in the string , Archguy
[14:47] <mirak> there is a bug, grub-mkconfig gives the same root=UUID= for all the os installed
[14:48] <Archguy> ezra-s: yes, I was using the latest kernel
[14:48] <Archguy> BluesKaj: Well the first command gives me an output saying wlan0 no device of this sort
[14:49] <Archguy> BluesKaj: And the second just gives: wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning.
[14:49] <ezra-s> Archguy, if you can get the device up and running it could be related to the kernel support for it, ubuntu is not as up to date in kernel version as arch is. (forgive me If I missed parts of your convo, I just entered)
[14:49] <ezra-s> s/can/cant
[14:49] <Archguy> ezra-s: I never ran archlinux on this computer.wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning.
[14:49] <BluesKaj> well , Archguy it was worth a try , but who oinows how arch configures wifi on the nm
[14:49] <Archguy> ezra-s: sorry for that copy paste
[14:49] <Archguy> BluesKaj: OK forget about that, I never had arch running on this laptop this is the first linux
[14:50] <varunendra> Archguy, the legacy driver is only needed by revision 1/2 of that card. Do you have the firmware installed? Sorry I just joined.
[14:51] <BluesKaj> ok Archguy . I'll leave it alone ... those 2 commands used to save my laptop wifi connection.
[14:51] <ezra-s> Archguy, you coultr try dmesg or /var/log/syslog to see if there are any errors when loading the drivers for your card. It's not usualy that you can load without errors and then the device does not even show up.
[14:53] <Archguy> ezra-s: Although b43-fwcutter and firmware-b43legacy-installer are installed, I still don't believe the drivers are installed so I don't think loading them is the problem since they just don't show up
[14:53] <Archguy> ezra-s: at all, wlan0 doesn't show up, neither does like enps2 or whatever it is
[14:54] <varunendra> Archguy, do you also have, by any chance, the sta (wl) driver installed?
[14:55] <ezra-s> Archguy, try to make sure the correct linux module loads before trying else, or anything you do will be futile
[14:55] <netlar> Is there a seperate channel for Mir?
[14:55] <Archguy> varunendra: How do I check that?
[14:55] <xrc> yes, #ubuntu-mir
[14:55] <netlar> thanks
[14:55] <varunendra> Archguy, just check the lsmod (look for wl)
[14:56] <Archguy> ezra-s & wilee-nilee & wheatthin & varunendra (& BluesKaj): looks like apparently BCM4306/3 is covered by b43, not b43legacy, will try and install that one
[14:56] <Archguy> at least that is what I am told by #linux-wireless
[14:56] <ezra-s> Archguy, good luck
[14:57] <Archguy> varunendra: anyways, yeah lsmod | grep wl doesn't return anything, that was not the problem but thanks :)
[14:57] <varunendra> Archguy, please follow this post and give us the pastebin link to the report it helps to generate : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[14:57] <occ> will the ubuntu live cd work with any usb wifi sticks without installing?
[14:58] <DJones> occ: Yes
[14:58] <DJones> !usb | occ
[14:58] <cfhowlett> occ, sometimes
[14:58] <occ> i see
[14:59] <Archguy> varunendra: ok, I will if I cannot manage with b43
[15:00] <varunendra> Archguy, b43 is already included in kernel, only the correct firmware is needed which is included in "linux-firmware-nonfree" package. You may try installing it.
[15:00] <varunendra> any yeah, the revision 3 of that card is indeed supported by b43.
[15:01] <Archguy> varunendra: nope, I don't believe that. fIirmware-b43-installer was not included in the kernel atleast not when I installed Lubuntu from a CD on this HP Pavilion zv5200. It also didn't come with an update/upgrade.
[15:02] <varunendra> Archguy, those packages only install the firmware, not the driver.
[15:02] <Archguy> varunendra: brb, am rebooting and then will try loading it
[15:02] <Archguy> varunendra: well what is the driver?
[15:02] <Archguy> varunendra: then?
[15:02] <varunendra> b43
[15:02] <samy> i have a problem with cpu clock
[15:02] <samy> please help
[15:03] <wheatthin> samy, did you try overclocking or something?
[15:03] <Nimesh> ubuntu and ati ? :(
[15:03] <Archguy> varunendra: right I see, well I will reboot and do this  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Switching_between_drivers see if wlan0 / some equivalent shows up
[15:03] <samy> root@samy:/home/samy# more /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz
[15:03] <samy> cpu MHz		: 800.000
[15:03] <samy> cpu MHz		: 800.000
[15:03] <FloodBot1> samy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:03] <Archguy> varunendra: do you think that is what I should do?
[15:03] <samy> how to clock 2xcores on 2100 mhz?
[15:04] <varunendra> Archguy, this card shouldn't be so troublesome. It must be something very simple.
[15:04] <Archguy> varunendra: what are you suggesting I do?
[15:05] <wheatthin> Archguy, you do what he asks, and uninstall the firmware and legacy package
[15:05] <varunendra> Archguy, just install the "linux-firmware-nonfree" package and unload/load the b43 driver. If you are sure it is revision 3, else b43legacy
[15:05] <wheatthin> then install the one he told you ^^
[15:05] <samy> wheatthin
[15:05] <samy> this clock on default
[15:05] <samy> :s
[15:06] <wheatthin> samy, in the bios?
[15:06] <samy> maybe...
[15:06] <wheatthin> samy, are you using ddr2?
[15:06] <samy> I have not seen it
[15:06] <samy> ddr3
[15:06] <devinceble> Archguy: I have a DV6T-2000 and its running broadcom What I do is use wired network then install the additional drivers found on Software and Updates
[15:06] <Archguy> varunendra: am sudo aptituding (lol) linux-firmware-nonfree. It is revision 3.
[15:06] <varunendra> Archguy, "sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree" --- > "sudo modprobe -rfv b43" --> "sudo modprobe -v b43"
[15:07] <samy> wheatthin how to fix a problem?
[15:07] <wheatthin> samy, I'd check your bios settings first.
[15:08] <samy> where in bios?
[15:08] <Archguy> varunendra: no reboot required?
[15:08] <varunendra> no
[15:08] <wheatthin> samy, I dunno somewhere around performance
[15:08] <Archguy> k
[15:08] <samy> ok
[15:08] <samy> i go to check
[15:08] <wheatthin> You'll see it when you come across it
[15:08] <samy> and come back
[15:08] <samy> okay
[15:09] <Archguy> varunendra: alright I did that, though looks like ip li is taking a hell of a lot of time to output
[15:09] <wheatthin> ip li?
[15:09] <varunendra> wheatthin, I was wondering  that too ;)
[15:10] <Archguy> varunendra: Both "ip li" and "iwconfig" do not output anything, as in for the moment they are literally stuck
[15:11] <Guest83554> montana
[15:11] <wheatthin> Archguy, did youb other to remove the firmware previously installed?
[15:11] <varunendra> Archguy, maybe a dhcp issue, just wait a bit. Does iwconfig say something?
[15:12] <Archguy> wheatthin: yes
[15:12] <Archguy> varunendra: both are frozen.. am rebooting brb
[15:12] <varunendra> k
[15:12] <wheatthin> varunendra, I think the module should have been unloaded before installing the nonfree
[15:13] <layke_> blazemore, I managed to get a GUI working. In the end I apt-get remove nvidia-* and removed everything, and for some reason it then works.. the problem is that I don't think I have the nvidia drivers now. (obviously).
[15:13] <varunendra> wheatthin, the firmware package only 'copies' the fw files in correct locations. They are picked up whenever the module is reloaded.
[15:13] <layke_> I havetried installing them, but when I reboot, I get the terminal again. (I'm not all too sure which drivers I should be installing for my system?)
[15:13] <layke_> There are several. Is there a way to know which will work for me?
[15:13] <wheatthin> k.
[15:14] <varunendra> layke_, drivers for what?
[15:14] <layke_> varunendra, My graphics card.
[15:14] <wheatthin> layke_, xorg comes with perfectly fine nvidia drivers
[15:14] <samy> im back
[15:15] <wheatthin> wb samy, did you find your settings?
[15:15] <samy> i dont have preformarce
[15:15] <samy> my version of bios is very old maybe..
[15:15] <layke_> If I run nvidia-settings it says "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X drive. Please edit your X configuration file...
[15:16] <wheatthin> lol I said it could be under performance or something of the sort.. I didn't think you'd take the name exact hehehe..
[15:16] <wheatthin> could be under cpu featuers, or anything
[15:16] <varunendra> samy, are you trying to force a speed or reset it to default?
[15:16] <samy> i wanna set on 2100mhz
[15:16] <wheatthin> reset it, his default is 2100mhz or something like that, and he's only getting 800mhz
[15:16] <wheatthin> which might just be the front side bus
[15:16] <jdoles> On Precise: apt-file search libglut.so.3 return freeglut3 to be present in /usr/lib, but I have it installed and it is not present. So, what's going on?
[15:17] <varunendra> samy, wheatthin not all BIOS are overclocking friendly (or flexible enough to set bus/clock speeds).
[15:17] <wheatthin> varunendra, yes, but at least he'd be able to see what the default setting is
[15:18] <wheatthin> I'm pretty sure what he's seeing is the fsb..
[15:18] <samy> can i clock on 2100 mhz?
[15:18] <wheatthin> samy, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[15:18] <varunendra> wheatthin, samy, the 800 MHz is most probably the FSB speed which is perfect for 2100 MHz cpu speed.
[15:18] <samy> cpu mhz is 800
[15:19] <samy> cache size - 2100
[15:19] <samy> tell me how to clock on 2100 mhz
[15:19] <varunendra> samy, cache size? Is it in KB ?
[15:19] <samy> yes
[15:19] <samy> 2048 kb
[15:19] <samy> :)
[15:20] <nimesh> Pentium 4 For the Win
[15:20] <varunendra> samy, that speed should be natively supported by any BIOS currently alive. Just put it under load and check the speed in System Monitor. (load like compressing with 7z)
[15:21] <k1l_> samy: dont have the full backlog. but your cpu should set the MHz on its on (through the kernel governour)
[15:21] <karniak> Are the update servers down? I can't connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com security.ubuntu.com etc.
[15:21] <k1l_> if you dont have "performance" its just maybe your pc is old.
[15:21] <varunendra> samy, the linux kernel and most BIOS are programmed to fall back to low speed if high performance is not required.
[15:21] <k1l_> karniak: main servers worked here 20 sec. ago
[15:22] <samy> hmmmmm
[15:22] <samy> I'm not sure I can use the full performance
[15:22] <wheatthin> karniak, can you ping it?
[15:23] <karniak> It keeps timing out.
[15:23] <wheatthin> karniak, and are you on the same machine?
[15:23] <Archguy> varunendra: Hey, just rebooted, so the wireless is working, my access point is listed but it is refusing to connect it say I entered the wrong password, tried 5 times again, just tried with another computer it is fine. And at the end when I close the dialog box it says 323 Insufficient privileges
[15:23] <varunendra> samy, show us the cpuinfo (cat /proc/cpuinfo | pastebinit)
[15:23] <k1l_> samy: what does "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats/time_in_state " give you? pastebin please
[15:24] <varunendra> Archguy, I'm not sure about the privilege factor, but maybe we can help if you post the report I asked for : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[15:24] <samy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5855680/
[15:24] <karniak> Well, that machine can ping it, i just tried. Weird. It is just going really slow now, like updating the mirror list is at like 7% after 5 minuts or so
[15:25] <Reliant> Hello. In what file does Ubuntu store my default desktop environment?
[15:25] <Archguy> varunendra: alright fair enough.
[15:25] <varunendra> :)
[15:26] <wheatthin> karniak, you can always try to find the closets server near you
[15:26] <wheatthin> closest*
[15:26] <varunendra> samy, it's the new b950 - the sandy-bridge architecture. There is no way it can underperform under linux
[15:26] <karniak> It has worked fine before though
[15:26] <wheatthin> karniak, they just might be overloaded
[15:26] <blazemore> I have a list of hostnames in a file, can I use nmap to just output another list of hostnames for which a specific port is open?
[15:26] <mirak> i want to chainload a grub2 with another grub2 and they are all on gpt. How can I do that ?
[15:27] <karniak> fair enough, I'll just try later then. Thanks
[15:27] <samy> and can not be overclcok?
[15:27] <samy> verumendra ?
[15:27] <Archguy> varunendra: ahah, the scan seems to have helped, could it be that it is because I had previously removed the Mac address of this laptop to my wifi?
[15:27] <varunendra> samy, just put it under some stress. It (the cpu) is designed to work on low speeds when high performance is not required.
[15:28] <k1l_> samy: there is no need for that
[15:28] <k1l_> the cpu will go to higher MHz if needed on his own.
[15:28] <wheatthin> samy, it's called cpu scaling
[15:28] <varunendra> samy, it can be overclocked if the BIOS supports that, but not much, and is not worth it.
[15:28] <k1l_> just look at the command i gave you
[15:28] <idletask> Hello
[15:28] <mirak> ok i found it, it's multiboot command
[15:28] <Archguy> varunendra: ah no one sec, I get [   27.440281] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready, here is the detailed pastebin => http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5855692/
[15:28] <samy> hmmm
[15:28] <idletask> Ubuntu 13.04: how do I tell the accounts manager (GUI) to stop being pesky about passwords
[15:29] <samy> verumendra my bios is not support overclock
[15:29] <idletask> I edited pam's common-password and /usr/share/pam_configs/unix but still no go
[15:29] <k1l_> samy: overclocking can harm your hardware. so better know what you are doing
[15:29] <sporkeee> Reliant, what is your end goal here?
[15:29] <idletask> Of course I can use passwd, but what about the GUI?
[15:29] <mojttaba> @FloodBot1: is it any way to find my dowmload rate using iptable
[15:29] <varunendra> samy, then don't bother with it. It is really not worth it.
[15:29] <wheatthin> samy, p4's or whatever scale on their own, which is why you can't overclock
[15:30] <samy> thank you all
[15:30] <Reliant> sporkeee: I have a new install. I'm trying to find what desktop I used in my old install. I can't boot on it to see it, so I have to look at the files
[15:30] <varunendra> samy, I have personally tested FarCry 2 game on that CPU (without dedicated graphics), and it works fantastic.
[15:30] <Archguy> varunendra: ?
[15:30] <varunendra> Archguy, on it.. ;)
[15:30] <Archguy> varunendra: cheers :)
[15:30] <Reliant> I'm pretty sure I was using cinammon, but my apps aren't working. I want to be sure I have the right desktop environment before troubleshooting the app
[15:30] <samy> varumendra i cant play brood war  :D
[15:30] <sporkeee> Reliant, What was your old install What release?
[15:30] <samy> u talk for far cry 2...
[15:31] <Reliant> Ubuntu 12.04
[15:32] <idletask> No one?
[15:32] <sporkeee> Reliant, Have you installed cinnamon now and the apps are not working?
[15:32] <lmat> My X server (compiz) is running quite slowly today. I think it was fine Friday, but now, when I move a window across the screen, for instance, it looks like the framerate is very low.
[15:32] <samy> hmm
[15:32] <Reliant> yes. It's kdevelop that's having problems
[15:32] <wheatthin> Idletask
[15:32] <wheatthin> what was your question again?
[15:33] <Reliant> I was switching from Ubuntu to Mint, and it didn't work in Mint. I installed Ubuntu 13.04 and it doesn't work in cinnamon here either. In my 12.04 I had changed desktop environments, and I want to be sure that it was cinnamon I had switched to, or if it was a different once
[15:33] <varunendra> Archguy, looks good in the report. Please explain the current problem again (I was stuck in CPU issue ;))
[15:33] <sporkeee> Reliant, kdevlop appears to be part of kde, not sure if it is attached to cinnamon, not sure the voodoo that mint be doing.
[15:33] <lmat> You know...I'm running glxgears and it's looking much better now. Perhaps a few restarts got me back to where I wanted to be...::shudders::
[15:34] <Archguy> varunendra: one sec, brb
[15:34] <Reliant> sporkeee: yes. That's why I want to find the config file that stores what desktop environment I was using
[15:34] <lmat> So the fps on glxgears was around 1000...that's really slow, right?
[15:35] <wheatthin> lmat, depends on your graphics card
[15:35] <sporkeee> Reliant, Look for kdevelop in .config maybe
[15:35] <wheatthin> lmat, mine was only 75, but that's cause I had vsync enabled
[15:35] <lmat> wheatthin: ahh
[15:35] <lmat> wheatthin: The site where I saw the recommendations shows > 6000
[15:36] <simpleuser> Hello there. I'd like to know if i can raise up the maximal brightness on my eeepc. Does someone know how to know the max brightness of my hardware? It's said here (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Backlight) that "you cannot go any higher than your screen's maximum brightness".
[15:36] <simpleuser> (and no, i'm not under Arch Linux, i'm under Xubuntu)
[15:36] <blazemore> simpleuser: Sounds like a hardware thing - your screen has lightbulbs in it, which only go to a certain brightness
[15:37] <wheatthin> I'm in a bit of pain.. gonna take a break for a few
[15:38] <Reliant> not seeing it in .config, but it's not kdevelop I'm looking for but my desktop environment. If cinnamon isn't the one I was using before, I don't want to be wasting time trying to get the app working in the wrong one
[15:38] <netit1> how can I get an email each time a user ssh into my linux server? I want the username, time stamp and IP
[15:38] <netit1> anyone have an example of such..?
[15:39] <schnuffle> netit1: you could use logcheck and set a regexp on auth.log
[15:39] <sporkeee> Reliant, Your sort of on a cart before the horse activity, you assume that your methodology is valid.
[15:39] <blazemore> netit1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/179889/how-do-i-set-up-an-email-alert-when-a-ssh-login-is-successful
[15:39] <Reliant> what do you mean?
[15:39] <schnuffle> netit1: there's already a regexp for failed auth that shoudl easily be expanded
[15:40] <Reliant> there is no config file to say what desktop environment to load by default when I login with my user account?
[15:41] <idletask> wheatthin: I want to beat accounts-daemon into submission so that it doesn't bother users when changing passwords with a policy of 8 min etc etc
[15:41] <idletask> I could only make passwd behave by editing pam files
[15:41] <idletask> The user account GUI, I can't
[15:41] <loudistheway> I have some thoughts of running a dual router setup for my home network.
[15:41] <loudistheway> One router running DD-WRT and some VPN (most likely HMA VPN pro.
[15:41] <loudistheway> This will connect to my fileserver, which also does all my torrent download and seeding
[15:41] <loudistheway> The other router will have stock setup and be used for traffic that isn't that security sensitive.
[15:41] <loudistheway> (The reason for having the less-secure router is higher speed and zero disconnections)
[15:41] <FloodBot1> loudistheway: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:41] <loudistheway> How would you recommend connecting these two routers to my internet connection?
[15:42] <mirak> with dejadup if we backup on an external drive, can we easily recover data even if the main os totally crashed ?
[15:44] <thatrandomaussie> morning guys
[15:45] <schnuffle> mirak: dejadup uses rsync as far as I know, so when your original system is crashed you should be able to recover all the data you have backedup in a consistent state
[15:46] <mirak> schnuffle: i wanted to know if the backedup files are self autonomus
[15:46] <mirak> i guess yes, but i wanted to be sure
[15:46] <thatrandomaussie> i have a question that i'm hoping is really stupidly noob.... have ubuntu on my laptop and its basically a mobile "social network access" /"watch movies from my external hard drive" when i'm traveling for work.... used to use winows 7 home... so glad i upgraded...    most of hte movies i've downloaded i dont get sound... but the sound on the laptop is working fine... do i need to get codecs or something/... i thought that
[15:46] <Archguy> varunendra: alright back, yes. Well I try and authentificate to my wireless network and it just jams (I know 100% sure that I have the write password) and when I close the network manager I get "(4) Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."
[15:47] <idletask> And I can't seem to do it at all
[15:47] <idletask> I have been googling around for two hours, to no avail
[15:47] <idletask> That is becoming painful :/
[15:48] <Archguy> varunendra: right*
[15:48] <varunendra> Archguy, did you try connecting without the ethernet cable plugged in?
[15:48] <Archguy> varunendra: yes
[15:48] <schnuffle> mirak: how do you define self autonomous. Mean mean everything crashes, you get a hdd with the backups, are you able to get the data out of it?
[15:50] <varunendra> Archguy, although I don't see anything related in dmesg, but can you try changing the encryption from TKIP to AES in the router? Much better - pure WPA2-PSK (AES)
[15:50] <Archguy> varunendra: how do I do that?
[15:50] <Archguy> varunendra: I don't have these options in the network manager
[15:51] <varunendra> Archguy, encryption settings in the router itself.
[15:51] <Archguy> varunendra: where is that on my computer?
[15:51] <netit1> blazemore: thanks for the link. What would the syntax be to use mail vs sendemail.
[15:51] <blazemore> netit1: I don't know
[15:51] <varunendra> Archguy, not in the computer, the wireless router/modem/access-point, whatever you have.
[15:52] <ezra-s> Archguy, he means the router, the device that offers your Wireless
[15:52] <Archguy> Ah right I see
[15:52] <ezra-s> :P
[15:52] <varunendra> TKIP does not work well sometimes.
[15:52] <thatrandomaussie> i'll try again with less words.. do i need codex for downloaded movies to play properly on ubuntu.. i get video no sound
[15:52] <Archguy> varunendra: Don't think I can change, that, just logged in to <IP_ADDRESS> and indeed it is WPA-TKIP encryption, though I don't know if I can change it :/
[15:52] <mirak> schnuffle: yes
[15:53] <Archguy> varunendra: also this really shouldn't be the problem, with Windows XP on this computer I had no problem connecting to this wifi!
[15:53] <varunendra> Archguy, see if there is an alternate setting like AES, CCMP
[15:53] <schnuffle> mirak: I'll check the format of the backup data and give you an answer
[15:53] <holstein> Archguy: the hardware is designed with windows in mind, though.. and provided a windows driver.. it *shouldnt* be a problems, but it would ideally be up to the hardware vendor to make sure its working, as they do in windows
[15:54] <schnuffle> netit1:  mail -s “Hello world”<EMAIL_ADDRESS>< /home/calvin/application.log
[15:54] <holstein> Archguy: is that the only driver that supports your device?
[15:54] <schnuffle> netit1:  http://www.simplehelp.net/2008/12/01/how-to-send-email-from-the-linux-command-line/
[15:54] <varunendra> Archguy, TKIP is problematic anyway, AES is more secure and more advanced. Both windows and linux can handle it, but is not recommended. We are only trying to rule out one possible cause.
[15:54] <Archguy> holstein: what do you mean? I believe I am using b43
[15:54] <holstein> !broadcom | Archguy im sure you are referring to this, but there might be a few options for you
[15:55] <Archguy> varunendra: Yeah, well I don't think this is the cause since I have lots of linux connected to it
[15:55] <Archguy> holstein: yes I know
[15:55] <holstein> Archguy: does it list another option?
[15:56] <Archguy> holstein: what do you mean? I am using the network manager, my wifi is listed. No options, just enter the password. I press the button Ion my router and enter the password just like all my other devices and it doesn't accept it and then gives that error message that  showed you.
[15:57] <varunendra> holstein, his card (14e4:4320) is only supported by b43, and that is good enough.
[15:57] <Archguy> varunendra: I don't think I needed to install linux-firmware-nonfree, I think this might be causing a problem
[15:57] <varunendra> Archguy, please show us output of "ls /lib/firmware/b43"
[15:58] <vlt> Pici: lftp is great, thank you!
[15:58] <Archguy> varunendra: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5855759/
[15:58] <varunendra> Archguy, that package is just a collection of nonfree firmware files. They are just data if you don't need them, no settings, nothing extra.
[15:59] <Archguy> varunendra: ok. This is really strange. 3: wlan0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state DOWN mode DORMANT qlen 1000     link/ether 00:90:4b:9e:da:a7 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[16:00] <holstein> another option is using the windows driver in ndis wrapper.. i read about how easy and great and out-of-the-box my broadcom chip was with the open driver.. i also tried the blob.. i took the chip out a few weeks ago and gave up on it..
[16:00] <netlar> I cannot add bookmarks to nautilus.  I am on 13.04
[16:00] <varunendra> Archguy, I don't understand that output (actually what is wrong in it), can you explain it to me ? lol :D
[16:00] <fuser> Anyone having issues with kernel 2.6.32-49 on reboots? My host says "Waiting to restart" but never completes, if I back down to 2.6.32-48 and issue the same reboot command it works fine.
[16:01] <Archguy> varunendra: huh? dafuck, I listed /lib/firmware/b43 like you asked...
[16:02] <varunendra> Archguy, that was okay. The expected files were in place.
[16:03] <Archguy> varunendra: and another problem I realised is that when I try and connect to it when in Ethernet, it says the scan couldn't list it or so me crappy error and then even when I unplug the Ethernet cable it is still not listed until I reboot... This is just frustrating
[16:03] <Archguy> varunendra: how can I check I am using b43 and firmware-b43-installer?
[16:04] <xnc> hey
[16:05] <xnc> how do u encrypt folders in ubuntu
[16:05] <Archguy> varunendra: any idea or do you give up :P ?
[16:05] <varunendra> Archguy, you have b43 listed in lsmod, and no conflicting driver, that's enough to believe it. The "nm-tool" also lists it as in use driver.
[16:05] <varunendra> Archguy, I am researching a bit here :P
[16:06] <Archguy> varunendra: thanks a lot :)
[16:06] <varunendra> Archguy, I never needed to try any parameters with this driver, but we do have some to give a shot.
[16:07] <varunendra> Archguy, please show us the output of : "grep -iR [a-z0-9] /sys/module/b43/parameters/"
[16:07] <Archguy> varunendra: k. It really is strange that the  network manager is not letting me connect to it.
[16:07] <fang0654> Anyone know where to tell smbd what network cards signify having a network connection and starting at boot?
[16:07] <Archguy> varunendra: ummh wait do I reboot or not, since now no wifis are listed? (since I tried connecting while in Ethernet..)
[16:07] <Martinjo84> xnc: i used google.com for this http://www.howtogeek.com/116032/how-to-encrypt-your-home-folder-after-installing-ubuntu/
[16:08] <varunendra> Archguy, oh forgot it, NM's default behaviour is to give cable connection priority when is available. It may not connect to wifi when cable is plugged in.
[16:08] <Archguy> varunendra: yes, but it also gave me a scan error and now the wifi networks aren't listed. Even if I pull the Ethernet cable out, they won't be. Until I reboot.
[16:09] <varunendra> Archguy, if you plug out the cable, you may have to wait a while (less than a minute though) before wifi is initiated.
[16:09] <Archguy> varunendra: jesus alright. Wait first, here is the output of grep -iR [a-z0-9] /sys/module/b43/parameters/ => http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5855792/
[16:10] <xnc> okey thanks
[16:10] <xnc> thanks martin
[16:11] <varunendra> Archguy, brb..
[16:12] <Archguy> varunendra: right.
[16:15] <varunendra> Archguy, ok, try (when wifi gets ready and can scan) - "sudo modprobe -rfv b43" .... then ... "sudo modprobe -v b43 nohwcrypt=1". Any improvement?
[16:17] <Archguy> varunendra: right one sec will try that in a sec
[16:20] <olskolirc> I see "logkeys" in /etc/init.d  Is this a problem?  I see youtubes that its an actual keylogger.  Can someone explain to me how I need this?  Did this come shipped or was I hacked?
[16:24] <simion314> olskolirc: i do not have that file in my /etc/init.d on 12.04
[16:24] <skillpiG> Hai gentlemen!
[16:24] <[[thufir]]> what log should I look into to see why the computer is powering off/on?  It seems to power *on* as well.  (the temp seems fine)
[16:24] <ezra-s> olskolirc, apt-cache show logkeys
[16:25] <PashaPasta> [[thufir]]: syslog
[16:25] <skillpiG> I just installed Ubuntu13.04-64bit on my UEFI machine on an SSD drive. I made sure the bootloader was on the SSD, 4GB partitioned for swap and the remaining 124GB EXT4 journaling with / as root. However, after completing the installation, my BIOS (or UEFI) reported that no operating system was found, please restart. Any advice?
[16:26] <ezra-s> olskolirc, it's an optional package, not a default one
[16:26] <schnuffle> olskolirc: paste the content of that file to pastebin and give the link
[16:26] <skillpiG> I am currently booted from the live USB I used to install the OS
[16:27] <varunendra> olskolirc, check the contents yourself before pasting anywhere. That package indeed is a keylogger.
[16:28] <ezra-s> skillpiG, have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI ?
[16:28] <idletask> Grrr, no dice
[16:28] <idletask> I have been searching for three full hours with no success at all
[16:29] <olskolirc> schnuffle, http://pastebin.com/cUggEX4X
[16:29] <schnuffle> olskolirc: http://code.google.com/p/logkeys/wiki/Documentation
[16:29] <skillpiG> ezra-s: I'm going through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:30] <skillpiG> will check your link while updating repositries
[16:30] <skillpiG> hmm - seems I'm on the right track with your link ezra-s :)
[16:31] <ezra-s> skillpiG, that link is the main reference for ubuntu installation with UEFI, you should have seen the link in the download page prior to downloading ubuntu itself
[16:31] <skillpiG> I'll come back if I don't come right
[16:31] <ezra-s> skillpiG, patience, I heard UEFI brings lots of headaches ;)
[16:32] <skillpiG> It's not as if Windows is getting it right either ;D
[16:34] <skillpiG> hmmmmmmmmm
[16:35] <wilee-nilee> skillpiG, take a look here for general info start a thread if needed. Best help I have seen is there with this thread author. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[16:36] <skillpiG> ezra-s: It seems my folly was not assigning a 100-300MB FAT32 partition for EUFI!
[16:36] <skillpiG> thanks wilee-nilee - I will check it out :)
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> skillpiG, Heh, with uefi you have to be careful as far as help, people will let their ego building through help outweigh there responsibility to the person being helped. ;)
[16:38] <Archguy> varunendra: Hey, nope, still the same problem. Doesn't accept the password I give it and after closing the network manager, "(4) Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remove application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."
[16:38] <skillpiG> I'll try again with the installation - thanks for all the help!  It was temporary, means will be lost at reboot.
[16:39] <Archguy> varunendra: I didn't reboot, I just logged out and logged back in.
[16:39] <varunendra> aftere trying it? Archguy
[16:40] <varunendra> Archguy,  "sudo modprobe -rfv b43" .... then ... "sudo modprobe -v b43 nohwcrypt=1"
[16:41] <Guest34580> hi
[16:42] <FfoO> Hi, Guest34580.
[16:45] <Archguy> varunendra: alright will try again, one sec.
[16:45] <thatrandomaussie> is there a link for guide for partitions
[16:46] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes     thatrandomaussie
[16:46] <thatrandomaussie> 1024thank you
[16:47] <Archguy> varunendra: nope, no change at all.
[16:48] <varunendra> Archguy, try again with a slight change - "sudo modprobe -rfv b43" .... then ... "sudo modprobe -v b43 nohwcrypt=1 btcoex=0". Any improvement?
[16:50] <newbie|2> hi
[16:50] <newbie|2> helppppppppppp
[16:50] <newbie|2> hi
[16:50] <skillpiG> gentlemen!
[16:50] <newbie|2> algum portugues aqui?
[16:50] <skillpiG> ezra-s: I came right :>
[16:51] <newbie|2> tugas
[16:51] <ezra-s> skillpiG, does that mean it worked?
[16:51] <Pici> !pt | newbie|2
[16:52] <Archguy> varunendra: nope :(
[16:53] <skillpiG> indeed - I just reinstalled ubuntu
[16:53] <skillpiG> but this time assigned 300MB to EUFI
[16:53] <newbie|2> obrigado
[16:53] <ezra-s> skillpiG, nice
[16:53] <skillpiG> in the partition table
[16:53] <skillpiG> now to have some fun with ubuntu on my home PC!
[16:54] <ezra-s> skillpiG, ;)
[16:54] <skillpiG> do you perhaps know of anyone that tried WoW with WINE ?
[16:54] <varunendra> Archguy, I have to leave now, a few more suggestions (besides changing the encryption type in router/access-point to WPA2-PSK (AES) - 1) Save the correct passkey/encryption type in NM settings, 2) Make sure IPv6 is set to "Ignore" (or completely disable it following this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2143561&p=12640479#post12640479), 3) As a last shot, install Wicd, and completly remove (purge) NM : https://help.ubuntu.com/communi
[16:54] <varunendra> ty/WICD
[16:54] <W3ird_N3rd> is there any way to have a higher value for dirty_writeback_centisecs and laptop_mode that actually sticks?
[16:55] <Jakey1> how do I check whether my dvd is connected with sata or IDE, without opening it up?
[16:55] <varunendra> Archguy, *last link was - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WICD
[16:55] <varunendra> gotta leave now. Any questions ? Archguy
[16:56] <Jakey1> how do I check whether my dvd is connected with sata or IDE, without opening it up?
[16:56] <Archguy> varunendra: yeah one sec
[16:57] <Archguy> varunendra: how do I do 1) ?
[16:57] <holstein> !patience > Jakey1
[16:57] <W3ird_N3rd> Jakey1, you could look in your BIOS setup..
[16:57] <Mammutpanzer> Hello I would like to start a deamon on boot as a none root user. Is this possible?
[16:58] <varunendra> Archguy, nm-applet (in the upper right corner) > Edit Connections > Wireless tab > double click your connection > Security tab > enter the relevant settings.
[16:58] <holstein> Jakey1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29380/information-about-sata-ide-pata-controllers is from a casual "ubuntu ide sata how to tell" search
[16:58] <Jakey1> W3ird_N3rd: thanks
[16:58] <BenyaminL> .
[16:58] <BenyaminL> Wired
[16:58] <Archguy> varunendra: great cheers, will try all of that. Can I memo you if it still doesn't work?
[16:58] <columb> How do I force application to show it's screen over any other window?
[16:59] <varunendra> Archguy, sure, I'll just mark myself "away" (unless my connection breaks ;) )
[16:59] <Jakey1> if the connector on the motherboard is ide then can I convert it to a sata
[16:59] <Jakey1> ?
[17:00] <ezra-s> columb, from unity you can't afaik
[17:00] <ezra-s> columb, kde has something like that though, if you are using it...
[17:02] <Guest79013> :o
[17:02] <Archguy> varunendra: many thanks again :)!
[17:02] <genii> Jakey1: Many places sell inline pata-sata adapters.
[17:03] <CWSpear> mathuaerknedam, there are a LOT of people in Ubuntu
[17:04] <mathuaerknedam> CWSpear: indeed.
[17:05] <superdo> hi
[17:05] <Archguy> varunendra: jesus christ, I just realised the stupidest thing in my entire life. Where I was entiring the wifi key, I needed to enter the computer's password :O !
[17:05] <Archguy> varunendra: xD
[17:05] <superdo> if I dont have wifi connection after install (LAN doesnt exists now) and I copy the wl.ko driver to this new machine should my wlan work ?
[17:06] <Archguy> varunendra: I swear, I'm officially an idiot
[17:07] <Archguy> superdo: I can help you with wireless now if you want but we do it my way :P
[17:07] <superdo> okay
[17:07] <Archguy> superdo: what is the output of "ip li"
[17:07] <superdo> i tell you where I am
[17:08] <varunendra> Archguy, can you connect now? that's what matters. I still make some of the funniest mistakes possible ;P
[17:08] <superdo> trying to compile the driver, but breaks with some error, readme says I need kernel headers etc.
[17:08] <superdo> Archguy, ok
[17:08] <varunendra> superdo, no, unless both the versions are exactly same in kernel, updates, just copying won't work.
[17:09] <Archguy> varunendra: am about to try again, seriously for some reason, this laptop boots 1/4 times... I keep having to hold the power button and switch it on again. It is my neighbour's old HP Pavilion zv5200, she wanted me to fix it for her, so Lubuntu I installed :P
[17:09] <Archguy> superdo: ah I'm guessing you don't have Ethernet
[17:09] <superdo> Archguy, http://pastie.org/8121730
[17:09] <superdo> Archguy, yes
[17:09] <Archguy> superdo: right
[17:09] <Archguy> superdo: lspci -vnn | grep 14e4
[17:10] <superdo> broadcom 4313 :)
[17:10] <superdo> but wait
[17:10] <Archguy> superdo: paste the full output please
[17:10] <superdo> http://pastie.org/8121733
[17:10] <Archguy> varunendra: btw, any idea why my latter problem even exists x)?
[17:11] <superdo> varunendra, meantime, thanks :)
[17:12] <varunendra> Archguy, what problem?
[17:12] <Archguy> superdo: were you following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#STA_-_No_Internet_access ?
[17:12] <Archguy> varunendra: [19:07] <     Archguy> | varunendra: am about to try again, seriously for some reason, this laptop boots 1/4 times... I keep having to hold the power button and switch it on again. It is my neighbour's old HP  Pavilion zv5200, she wanted me to fix it for her, so Lubuntu I installed :P
[17:13] <superdo> Archguy, yes, but I dont have some folders what are in this guide..
[17:13] <superdo> i dont have patch..
[17:13] <superdo> no. 2 and 4
[17:14] <varunendra> Archguy, any system not being able to boot sometimes most probably has hardware issues (and most probably RAM or a lose/faulty card), but there can be a hundred (if not thousand) other reasons ;)
[17:14] <Archguy> superdo: you are in the live CD correct?
[17:14] <varunendra> superdo, 13.04?
[17:14] <superdo> yes
[17:14] <Archguy> varunendra: yeah, hard drive probably lose, that is my theory
[17:15] <varunendra> Archguy, quite possibly
[17:15] <superdo> I rechecked, I dont have p/patch and restricted/..
[17:15] <superdo> on the live usb
[17:15] <varunendra> superdo, the native brcmsmac driver should be good for you. You shouldn't need to install anything
[17:17] <superdo> but why the heck I have empty or missing dirs
[17:17] <superdo> or the guide doesnt count with it
[17:17] <Archguy> alright sorry, need to go to the doctor's sorry superdo will try and help you later. varunendra thanks a lot wifi works now :)
[17:18] <troyready> Anyone know where Ubuntu One settings are stored? I'm trying to script some preference changes (specifically looking to disable notifications, but possibly other changes as well), but I can't figure out if it's in dconf, gconf, .config, etc?
[17:18] <superdo> ok np
[17:18] <varunendra> archigos_, you're welcome :)
[17:19] <varunendra> superdo, please take a look at this thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2158944
[17:19] <superdo> varunendra, what you think I can download manually from ubuntu repo ?
[17:19] <varunendra> superdo, like I said, if your card is indeed BCM4313, you shouldn't need to install anything on 13.04. It should work out of box
[17:20] <superdo> hm
[17:20] <superdo> primising
[17:20] <superdo> reading your post..
[17:20] <superdo> promising
[17:21] <sebrock> I have a VPN connection that works, ie it is up. If I add a route to one specific IP I am able to ping it. If I remove that route and instead force a ping to use the VPN interface the ping is sent away but nothing is replied. So somewhere it gets stuck I guess. Can anyone help me setting this up?
[17:21] <varunendra> superdo, try an "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" while you are connected via cable. If it still doesn't seem to work (the native brcmsmac driver), then try this alternative : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2140640&p=12629619#post12629619
[17:22] <superdo> varunendra, my biggest problem I dont have cable
[17:23] <varunendra> superdo, try - "sudo modprobe -rfv brcmsmac" ... then .. "sudo modprobe -v brcmsmac". Make sure you haven't tried to install the proprietary driver, it most probably won't work.
[17:24] <superdo> varunendra, ok need to replace hdd to ssd and I try it
[17:24] <varunendra> superdo, if that doesn't work, you may try the alternative (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2140640&p=12629619#post12629619). Just keep a note of these links. :)
[17:24] <superdo> i save them to usb stick :)
[17:25] <BluesKaj> sebrock, openvpn?
[17:25] <ripthejacker> What is the advantage of Ubuntu 64bit over 32 bit?
[17:25] <sebrock> BluesKaj: no regular L2TP/IPSec with purevpn.com
[17:25] <DigeratiW> memory
[17:25] <DigeratiW> to be ablke to use more than just 3.5 gb
[17:26] <superdo> varunendra, that was my problem last time: Delete the line that says "#include <asm/system.h>" (line no. 43 in current version)
[17:26] <ripthejacker> DigeratiW: 32 bit version is also able to use more than 3.5 g
[17:26] <superdo> so maybe..
[17:26] <BluesKaj> sebrock, purevpn.com is a paid server ?
[17:26] <sebrock> BluesKaj: yes
[17:26] <ezra-s> you can also run programs which consume more than 2 gigabytes of RAM
[17:27] <DigeratiW> how is that possible, 32 bit is limited to a maximum of 4 gb
[17:27] <bazhang> !pae > DigeratiW
[17:27] <ripthejacker> ez!pae
[17:27] <ripthejacker> !pae
[17:28] <ripthejacker> bazhang: which version do you use?
[17:28] <bazhang> ripthejacker, 13.04
[17:28] <ripthejacker> I mean 32 bit or 64?
[17:28] <bazhang> ripthejacker, 32bit 4gb ram
[17:29] <ripthejacker> bazhang: Is there a reason why you don't use 64 bit?
[17:29] <ezra-s> bazhang, when you run "top" on terminal, do you see your 4 gigabytes of ram?
[17:29] <bazhang> ripthejacker, sure, but thats not really ontopic for this channel
[17:29] <bazhang> ezra-s, yes of course
[17:30] <namidark> Does anyone have a link to up-to-date instructions on either downloading a ruby 2.0 deb package or building one? The only one's i'm finding rely on ruby 1.8 and ffi and all fail
[17:30] <BluesKaj> sebrock, are you using the l2tp/ipsec-vpn client ?  i use that client on some freeservers here , http://www.vpngate.net/en/
[17:30] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, there is no reason to use 64 bits unless you have a very demanding software running or you need some of the features 64bit offers, or have uefi in your machine
[17:30] <superdo> brb
[17:30] <sebrock> BluesKaj: yes  am
[17:31] <ripthejacker> bazhang: It is because I've been using 64 bit for a month now and my experience has not been nice. But I'm not sure if it's a problem with 13.04 or just the 64bit version
[17:31] <kafando> hello, I want to zip some files from folder but, when I try: zip -r folder0/folder1 it preserves folder0 too, how can I zip only folder1 and it's childs ?
[17:32] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, you should be more explicit "not being nice" doesn't really tell much
[17:33] <ripthejacker> ezra-s: worse than 12.10 32 bit. Dash is slower, Steam crashing everytime i start it
[17:33] <ripthejacker> yeah that's about it :P
[17:33] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, I use 64 bit 13.04 and I don't have that problem
[17:33] <ripthejacker> Steam is working for you?
[17:34] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, perfectly
[17:34] <ripthejacker> ezra-s: please help me troubleshoot
[17:34] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, never had a crash with steam since the early days
[17:34] <Evil_Eric> can someone point me in the direction of getting oidentd set up and working properly?
[17:34] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, have you added 3rd party sources to your ubuntu?
[17:35] <ripthejacker> ezra-s: ppa?
[17:36] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, for example, yes, ppa or any other third party sources which may introduce/install different libs that the default system brings.. external drivers, etc..
[17:36] <ezra-s> that may be a source of problems
[17:36] <ripthejacker> no
[17:36] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, which gpu do you have?
[17:36] <ripthejacker> I installed the deb package from the steam site
[17:36] <ripthejacker> amd radeon 6450
[17:37] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, fglrx driver?
[17:37] <ripthejacker> ezra-s: Not sure, how do I find out?
[17:37] <ripthejacker> Not the open source one
[17:37] <ripthejacker> definitely
[17:38] <ripthejacker> I downloaded the driver from the amd site
[17:38] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, in system sources you have a tab for third party drivers, it might be in there, I don't have ati so I am not sure
[17:38] <OerHeks> namidark, http://gorails.com/setup/ubuntu
[17:38] <ripthejacker> ezra-s: it's most probably fglrx
[17:38] <ripthejacker> ezra-s: the proprietary one
[17:38] <namidark> OerHeks: I need to build a deb - not rvm or rbenv :) thanks though
[17:39] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, problem with manually installed drivers is every time the kernel or some sensible lib is updated it may overwrite some of what the ati manual driver install installed
[17:39] <ezra-s> sometimes the DKMS kernel module is not correctly configured either
[17:39] <ripthejacker> ezra-s: yes I have to manually install the driver every time there's a kernel update
[17:40] <ezra-s> what I did is to compile my own kernel and install the driver manually but I don't recommend that to anyone unless they know what they're doing
[17:40] <OerHeks> namidark, there are 3 ways, rbenv rvm and http://gorails.com/setup/ubuntu#ruby-source
[17:40] <namidark> OerHeks: yes I'm a ruby dev :) I need a deb package, not source, not rvm, and not rbenv - a deb is none of those
[17:40] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, I only can give you tips then, like check /var/log/syslog /var/log/xorg.0.log or ~/.xession-errors when you have crashes
[17:41] <OerHeks> namidark, it is not packaged yet, build it yourself
[17:41] <ezra-s> try to find out the real cause
[17:41] <ripthejacker> ezra-s: it's loggin out right after the crash
[17:41] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, you mean... like a lightdm logout?
[17:42] <ripthejacker> yes
[17:42] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, then you will probably find related info in /var/log/xorg.0.log
[17:42] <ezra-s> it's like X is crashing due to failing driver or something is wrong with X
[17:43] <ezra-s> but in my experience X is really stable with nvidia or included intel drivers, so it could be your driver
[17:43] <con-man> does anyone know why chrome would work but not firefox?
[17:43] <whoever> hi all i need some help changing permissions on a no permissoin file  ii ls -l filename returns  ????????? ? ? filename
[17:43] <con-man> meh let me run my updates first
[17:43] <OerHeks> whoever, on what filesystem ?
[17:43] <whoever> and when i try chmod 0777 filename i get input/output error  but only for that file
[17:43] <angeloporzia85hd> ciao
[17:43] <superdo> varunendra, compile result: http://pastie.org/8121826
[17:43] <angeloporzia85hd> !lista
[17:44] <whoever> OerHeks: it is a workspace.xml indide of an ide
[17:44] <zuzu> hello
[17:45] <ezra-s> ati has always given me lots of problems under linux when I had to deal with it ;P
[17:45] <adamk> whoever: I suggest running an fsck on tjhe filesystem.
[17:45] <ripthejacker> ezra-s: So you use Nvidia now?
[17:46] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, I use it at home, for gaming yes
[17:46] <whoever> adamk: even thoug it is that one file, it is the file for a java project
[17:46] <ezra-s> a geforce 470
[17:46] <superdo> brb
[17:46] <ripthejacker> k
[17:46] <adamk> ripthejacker: It's really not advisable to download the driver from AMD directly, but to instead use the one packaged by/for Ubuntu.
[17:47] <adamk> whoever: It's only that one file *you know of*.  And even if it's only one file, it could still be a problem withthe filesystem.
[17:47] <adamk> whoever: Or a problem with the hard drive.
[17:47] <ripthejacker> adamk : the packaged ones have never worked for me
[17:47] <ripthejacker> adamk: maybe i'll try the open source one
[17:47] <Vec> So, i had a partition on /dev/sdb5, after i shutdown -poweroff and rebooted again that partition is now called /dev/sdc5 -- anyone know how that could possibly happen? This is on a 100% fresh install btw
[17:47] <adamk> ripthejacker: Well apparently the one directly from AMD doesn't either ;-)
[17:47] <adamk> ripthejacker: What video card?
[17:48] <ripthejacker> amd radeon hd 6450
[17:48] <whoever> adamk: in this case does it matter if i unmount and run fsck  or disk analizer from gui
[17:49] <adamk> fsck...  You can't check the filesystem if it's still mounted.
[17:49] <ripthejacker> ezra-s: I'll try one more time and try to discern from the logs if there's any error. Then maybe try changing the drivers
[17:49] <ripthejacker> ezra-s: Thank you :)
[17:49] <adamk> ripthejacker: Pastebin the Xorg log file.
[17:50] <arrax[DE]> hi there, is there a possibility to say "unrar" it has to extract into the source folder?
[17:50] <ripthejacker> adamk: 1 sec
[17:50] <whoever> adamk: never don on ubuntu is it f8 from boot and select recovery , or different {
[17:50] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, good luck
[17:50] <whoever> ?
[17:50] <ripthejacker> adamk: 700+ lines?
[17:51] <ripthejacker> make that 800 lines
[17:51] <ezra-s> arrax[DE], I am sure unrar by default respects the directory tree inside the compressed file, so it should extract into the location where it is ran but will respect the directory tree it was compressed with
[17:52] <adamk> ripthejacker: Yes, the full thing...  But use a pastebin service.
[17:52] <whoever> adamk: lol touch /forcefsck
[17:53] <hallucinogen> hi
[17:53] <ripthejacker> adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5856057/
[17:53] <arrax[DE]> ezra-s: ty :/
[17:53] <adamk> whoever: There is an option from the grub menu to boot into recovery mode, and then anb option in recovery mode to fsck all filesystems.
[17:55] <adamk> ripthejacker: Nothing out of the ordinary in there.  Exactly what's the problems?
[17:55] <whoever> adamk: thx see you in a few
[17:56] <ripthejacker> I'm trying to setup steam and at the final step the setup crashes and causes a lightdm logout
[17:56] <ezra-s> adamk, he get's kicked out of lightdm, like xorg crash
[17:57] <holstein> the steam channel might be a better place to ask
[17:57] <adamk_> Oh, interesting...  Well, yeah, that's definitely a driver issue.  You'd have to look at the Xorg log file from the X session that crashes.  Immediately after X crashes, it tries to start up again and the Xorg log file gets renamed /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[17:57] <holstein> !steam > ripthejacker
[17:58] <adamk_> Steam is not going to cause X to crash...
[17:59] <ripthejacker> adamk_: should I post the xor.log.old files?
[18:00] <anonee> hello room, how can I exclude wine from being themed by emerald?
[18:01] <adamk_> ripthejacker, Only if it's the Xorg.0.log.old file from when X crashed...  *But*, even then, this is a proprietary driver we're talking about . There's likely not much we can do about it.
[18:01] <ezra-s> anonee, If I recall well winecgf has an option for window decoration/desktop size or similar , but I am not sure, check it out
[18:01] <ripthejacker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5856099/
[18:02] <ezra-s> there it is
[18:02] <ezra-s> a segfault
[18:02] <adamk_> Yep, and it involves at least two different proprietary libraries.
[18:03] <ezra-s> /usr/X11R6/lib64/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so and...  /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so <-- this one propietary too?
[18:03] <whoever> adamk_: fsck seems to automaticly run on reboot , durring the ubuntu splash screen if i hit f8 i can see all output, fsck, finished ok
[18:04] <varunendra> superdo, it looks like you didn' make the change suggested in step 5 in the post I linked to.
[18:04] <superdo> hm
[18:04] <ezra-s> nope, the last one belongs to xserver-core
[18:04] <ezra-s> xserver-xorg-core: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[18:04] <Dandalion> Hi, I'm looking to setup an SQL server on my Ubuntu Desktop machine
[18:05] <Dandalion> what would be a good version of SQL to use for Ubuntu?
[18:05] <subz3r0> mysql
[18:05] <adamk_> ezra-s, That's the AMD glx module.
[18:05] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, try and contact ati support with the whole backtrace, see if they can give you any tips or check the amd FAQ if they have one
[18:05] <superdo> varunendra, I did
[18:05] <ezra-s> adamk_, then it conflicts with the xserver file
[18:06] <ripthejacker> ezra-s: they have an irc channel?
[18:06] <whoever> adamk: fsck seems to automaticly run on reboot , durring the ubuntu splash screen if i hit f8 i can see all output, fsck, finished ok
[18:06] <adamk_> ezra-s, Remember ripthejacker grabbed the driver directly from AMD...
[18:06] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, 99'99999999999999999999% sure they don't
[18:06] <adamk_> ripthejacker, completel unofficial and useless, #ati
[18:06] <adamk_> ripthejacker, There is a bug tracker that their developers use sometimes...
[18:07] <ezra-s> adamk_, but the driver still works on top of xorg.. maybe the last file is supposed to work with the ati driver part... or maybe there is where the problem lies
[18:07] <W3ird_N3rd> to answer my previous question ("is there any way to have a higher value for dirty_writeback_centisecs and laptop_mode that actually sticks?")
[18:08] <W3ird_N3rd> add this to rc.local:
[18:08] <W3ird_N3rd> /sbin/sysctl -p /etc/sysctl.conf
[18:08] <W3ird_N3rd> sleep 10
[18:08] <W3ird_N3rd> /sbin/sysctl -p /etc/sysctl.conf
[18:08] <adamk_> ripthejacker, I'd be really interested in knowing if the problem exists with the driver packaged in the repos.
[18:08] <ripthejacker> Man, next time I'll buy a card , I'll check if it has any issues with linux
[18:08] <W3ird_N3rd> stupid, but so is that 7-year old bug
[18:09] <ripthejacker> adamk_: I tried the fglrx driver from repos, But the gui is all broken after installing that , like static
[18:09] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, in my experience you get better results with nvidia drivers, but if you are not going for gaming, like office work or stuff, best thing is integrated graphics
[18:09] <ezra-s> in terms of problems with driver installs
[18:10] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, static, like if you move a window it creates lots of ghosts behind it?
[18:10] <adamk_> Personally, steam works fine here with fglrx.
[18:10] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, do you get the crash with steam itself or when trying to run games?
[18:10] <ripthejacker> ezra-s: worse than  that , I don' t see anything , just lines
[18:11] <Vec> Can someone help me understand this? I have a dir with 570 permissions. I am logged in with a user that is a member of the group owning the dir. Why do i get permission denied when trying to CD to the folder?
[18:11] <ripthejacker> I haven't tried any games in linux
[18:11] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, next time you try the packaged ones make a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf and remove it first
[18:11] <adamk_> ripthejacker, There might be other issues going on with your machine then...
[18:11] <ripthejacker> other than counter strike
[18:11] <ezra-s> prior to installation that is
[18:12] <arobaz> hi
[18:12] <arobaz> need help to grub
[18:12] <arobaz>  pd
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> !details > arobaz
[18:12] <ripthejacker> ezra-s: remove the xorg.conf?
[18:12] <ezra-s> also fglrx uses some weird directory name in /etc for its config and settings, I would also back and remove that before re-trying an ubuntu packaged installation
[18:13] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, yes , prior to installing fglrx ubuntu package
[18:13] <ripthejacker> ezra-s: oh ok
[18:13] <Layke> All day I've been unable to log in through a GUI. Apparently X wouldn't start. Would get /dev/nvidia0 device error. I tried everything. Removed nvidia-vurrent drivers. Reinstalled. Couldn't get in. Eventually I removed nvidia-* and was able to get single monitor access through GUI login... however, I was getting pink artefact lines on my display
[18:13] <Layke> Is it possible that my GPU is just dead/dying?
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> Layke, You try a nomodeset boot?
[18:13] <Layke> If I had nvidia drivers installed, I would end up just booting straight to black screen with terminal login, and running startx would show the nvidia error.
[18:13] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, nowadays Xorg is capable of detecting everything it needs without it, but I am sure the propietary driver creates one.. that could be giving your problems too if something is different with the packaged drivers, not sure, but it doesn't hurt to try
[18:14] <Layke> wilee-nilee, Yup. Tried nomodeset also from boot.
[18:14] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, get used to the console when trying ;)
[18:14] <Layke> (In the end now, I've ripped out a really crappy GPU from an old machine, and it booted straight into lightdm and I could log in.
[18:14] <ripthejacker> ezra-s kk
[18:15] <ezra-s> Layke, that's because nvidia kernel doesn't get along very well with kernel console framebuffer driver or even with the nouveau drivers
[18:15] <haddex> Vec, have you ever enter to that directory, with other permissions?
[18:15] <arobaz> ALLO
[18:15] <Vec> hd
[18:15] <Vec> a
[18:15] <Vec> ha
[18:15] <Vec> oops, sorry....
[18:15] <arobaz> WAKE UP
[18:15] <ripthejacker> ezra-s, adamk_ thank you for the tips guys, I'll try it out and let you know if it works
[18:15] <ripthejacker> :)
[18:15] <Vec> haddex: Yes, i can enter just fine with 001 perms
[18:15] <ezra-s> ripthejacker, good luck man
[18:16] <ripthejacker> thanks
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> arobaz, Can you state your grub problem, and curtail the of topic.
[18:16] <Vec> haddex: What baffles me is that i know that my user is groupmember of the group owning the dir. and that group has read/execute acces to the dir. Why dont i have acces then?
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> off*
[18:16] <superdo> varunendra, successfully run all the commands as in your post, whats next? :)
[18:17] <Layke> ezra-s, Everything had been working fine. Is there anything that I can try?
[18:17] <arobaz> layer3,
[18:18] <arobaz> réponds enfoiré
[18:18] <ezra-s> Layke, I would boot with recovery or single user boot or however you can into the console and the blacklist any framebuffer neuveau driver that the default kernel image brings that could be used at boot with your hardware
[18:19] <ezra-s> framebuffer/neuveau
[18:19] <ezra-s> not the same thing
[18:19] <Layke> Okay. Blacklist both of them?
[18:19] <ezra-s> Layke, if you intend to use nvidia propietary yes
[18:19] <ezra-s> blacklist those to death
[18:19] <Layke> Well, the nvidia propprietary drivers had been working great, so I know they work. But at this stage... I just want something that will work :)
[18:19] <superdo> guys what is the file I can disable unneded wlan drivers?
[18:20] <anonee> hello room, how can I exclude a window from being themed by emerald?
[18:20] <ezra-s> Layke, if you want to run games you need the propietary ones
[18:20] <ezra-s> if not, let ubuntu run with default drivers...
[18:20] <Layke> ezra-s, How would I let it run with default?
[18:20] <Layke> I think that is what I did have.. (but ended up having ping artefact lines on the screen)
[18:20] <ezra-s> Layke, what you get when you install :P
[18:21] <anonee> a window class or any other way to exclude all wine programs
[18:21] <Layke> Yeah. I think that's what I had after I removed nvidia.. (which is the *only* way I could get my system to boot)
[18:21] <ezra-s> Layke, If I recall well you end up with neuveau drivers by default
[18:21] <Layke> Perhaps a bad question.. but are there any other default drivers?
[18:22] <Layke> I'lll try updating everything..
[18:22] <haddex> can you print here the output of the permission, the rwxrwxrwx thing, also if it has other letters
[18:22] <ezra-s> Layke, others would work but not with compositing, which unity uses
[18:23] <ezra-s> ubuntu disregarded not compositing for unity in 13.04 I think
[18:25] <superdo> varunendra you here?
[18:26] <Layke> I thnk I'll do a release upgrade to 13.04 while my system is borked as well
[18:27] <Layke> Can't really get things worse.
[18:27] <knightAndrobide> Hey
[18:28] <haddex> who Ver
[18:28] <knightAndrobide> I need to watch some WebTV with firefox, but it told me thar i have ton install WebPlayer
[18:28] <knightAndrobide> But it's a .exe program
[18:28] <knightAndrobide> Can you help
[18:29] <skillpiG> Hai gentlemen! I have returned! I need some help installing AMD drivers on my fresh 13.04 installation
[18:29] <skillpiG> When I sudo ./AMD-xxxxxxxxxx the installation says that my device is not supported... Which is disheartening
[18:30] <skillpiG> Additional information: AMD PCS 7870 Myst (tahiti)
[18:31] <fabrizziop> hey guys, I'm using lubuntu (nobody answers in their IRC), what could I do to change the color bit depth?
[18:31] <skillpiG> brb restart
[18:32] <knightAndrobide> Its seems that nobody respond hère, you'll just got join/leaving message
[18:32] <ezra-s> fabrizziop, monitor settings in configuration ? I am not used to lubuntu desktop
[18:32] <W3ird_N3rd> fabrizziop, create/change xorg.conf?
[18:32] <fabrizziop> ezra-s: it only configures resolution and refresh rate
[18:33] <fabrizziop> yeah, I'm trying to create a xorg.conf, but I don't find any initial settings
[18:33] <ezra-s> fabrizziop, using any propietary drivers?
[18:33] <fabrizziop> ezra-s: no, the included ones
[18:33] <ezra-s> fabrizziop, xorg.conf is not needed, by default it will try to go to max-depth possible
[18:34] <fabrizziop> hmm, it's weird, as in windows you could go to 24 bit
[18:34] <fabrizziop> maybe the framebuffer is too small?
[18:34] <knightAndrobide> I want to watch some WebTV with firefox , but I have toi install webplayer TV , windows program, how can I do it
[18:34] <ezra-s> fabrizziop, what's the real problem? you get ugly graphics?
[18:35] <fabrizziop> ezra-s: yep, even the background has banding
[18:35] <ezra-s> fabrizziop, which is your gpu? you seem to not being using the correct driver
[18:36] <fabrizziop> ezra-s: according to lspci it's "Intel 855GM"
[18:37] <ezra-s> gotta go, sorry
[18:37] <fabrizziop> np, thanks
[18:37] <fabrizziop> :(
[18:41] <BluesKaj> knightAndrobide, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmLWBU9HFn4
[18:44] <knightAndrobide> Thx BluesKaj
[18:47] <BluesKaj> knightAndrobide, it's freetuxtv in the repos
[18:48] <knightAndrobide> I'm watching rhé vid
[18:48] <knightAndrobide> The
[18:51] <thebishop> hi folks, is there a way to fix the bug that causes gnome-terminal to resize itself when you focus another window?
[18:56] <Subarashi> Bonsoir ;)
[19:03] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[19:03] <Lunar_Lander> how comes that LibreOffice for example is never updated via the ubuntu updates?
[19:03] <Lunar_Lander> and firefox and thunderbird are
[19:03] <xangua> Lunar_Lander: you can add libreoffice ppa
[19:03] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[19:04] <Lunar_Lander> and if I do not do that, I have to go to the libreoffice site and update it manually?
[19:04] <ratbert90> Hey, I have a wireless question.  iw mlan0 scan let's my wireless adapter scan my wireless networks, however iwlist scanning does not.  This would be attributed to no wireless extensions aparently, however I DO have wireless extensions compiled into my kernel.
[19:04] <ratbert90> and wpa_supplicant requires wireless extensions.  Any thoughts ?
[19:05] <xangua> Lunar_Lander: if you are going to do that you first uninstall libreoffice from repositories and then install the one you get from libreoffice site
[19:05] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[19:05] <layke_> Is there anything in 13.04 to help with the lack of a tastkbar? I still haven't been able to get over the fact there isn't a taskbar in Unity?
[19:06] <Lunar_Lander> xangua, basically I am looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice#Installing_a_newer_version_of_LibreOffice_than_available_via_Ubuntu_repositories then?
[19:07] <Kitt3n> layke_, have you had a look at KDE? :)
[19:07] <layke_> Yeah. I use KDE at the moment Kitt3n
[19:07] <Kitt3n> Layke, KDE kicks Unity's butt ;p
[19:07] <layke_> Yeah. It's pretty perfect what I want...
[19:08] <layke_> Was just curious if 13.04 was any better than Unity. I never understood why it was removed. But a taskbar is the number one thing I need. I don't need more space on my desktop :)
[19:08] <Lunar_Lander> 13.04 has unity removed?
[19:09] <Lunar_Lander> didn't know that
[19:09] <Kitt3n> No?
[19:09] <Kitt3n> Ubuntu uses Unity, Kubuntu uses KDE, etc etc.
[19:09] <Lunar_Lander> ah he means the taskbar
[19:09] <layke_> s/than/with
[19:09] <Kitt3n> Well, Unity is a touch desktop environment soo eh
[19:09] <layke_> Yeah. My bad. I'm not complaining about Unity, since I'm happy with alternatives :)
[19:09] <superdo> is this network setup strange right? http://pastie.org/8122047
[19:10] <OerHeks> !nounity | layke_
[19:11] <wheatthin> !paste
[19:13] <OnceMe> hello
[19:13] <OnceMe> does the ubuntu 10 have mozilla 3.0.8 when live cd is run?
[19:13] <OnceMe> Or ubuntu 9.. I can't recall
[19:14] <holstein> OnceMe: 10.04 is not supported any more on the desktop.. 10.10 and 9.04 and 9.10 are EOL
[19:14] <OnceMe> is it okay to install this app http://www.oldapps.com/linux/firefox.php?old_firefox=10943
[19:14] <OnceMe> Is the source reliable?
[19:15] <holstein> OnceMe: "ok" will likely be a matter of opinion and use case.. i think its agreeable, generally, that out of date browsers are out of date for a reason, mostly security reasons
[19:16] <OerHeks> 9.04 had ff 3, you can download the torrent
[19:17] <immotus> Does Ubuntu 12.04 LTS support Xen pvops?
[19:17] <OnceMe> OerHeks:there is no official dl from website?
[19:18] <OerHeks> OnceMe, Mozilla most likely will answer: why keeping old versions ?
[19:18] <holstein> OnceMe: correct. they are EOL.. though, you can download the older versions as stated
[19:18] <holstein> !eol > OnceMe
[19:19] <OnceMe> ok
[19:19] <OnceMe> so from where I can download ubuntu 9.04
[19:19] <OnceMe> as there is mozilla 3.0.8 for testing purpose..
[19:19] <Lunar_Lander> xangua, thanks again, looks like installation was successful :)
[19:20] <holstein> OnceMe: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[19:21] <OerHeks> oh, torrents are removed from http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ but holstein saved you :-)
[19:21] <xangua> OnceMe: you just linked a firefox 3.0.8 download
[19:22] <OnceMe> source is not reliable
[19:23] <ripthejacker> adamk_
[19:23] <ripthejacker> hi
[19:23] <OerHeks> well, 9.04/FF 3.08 is not reliable after all those years. why complaint?
[19:24] <ripthejacker> I managed to install the open source driver
[19:25] <ripthejacker> adamk_: evertything is working fine except steam
[19:26] <ripthejacker> I'm getting this error: You are missing the following 32-bit libraries, and Steam may not run:
[19:26] <ripthejacker> libGL.so.1
[19:26] <Kitt3n> ripthejacker, are you using an AMD graphics card?
[19:26] <ripthejacker> Kitt3n: yes
[19:26] <Kitt3n> ripthejacker, "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs" and use the driver from AMD, the open source driver will crash Steam over and over.
[19:27] <Estrobeda> about sudo commands etc is there any list of those commands with good explaination?
[19:27] <Kitt3n> Estrobeda, sudo runs something as root
[19:28] <Kitt3n> !sudo
[19:28] <Estrobeda> ok thx
[19:29] <ripthejacker> Kitt3n: man I'm getting different opinions all the time. I've been using drivers from amd all these days and all were suggesting to use open source one.Now that i've managed to install the open source , I have to install amd drivers
[19:30] <OerHeks> ripthejacker, best advise comes from #ubuntu-steam
[19:30] <Kitt3n> ripthejacker, Steam is the only application I know of that gets segmentation errors from the open source drivers, it might change soon though.
[19:30] <fswoes> I want a real big partition. 18tb to be exact. I want this partition to be full of ext4 goodness. resize2fs currently is limited to a measly 16tb. "resize2fs: New size too large to be expressed in 32 bits"
[19:31] <ripthejacker> but the error i'm getting is something else I suppose
[19:31] <ripthejacker> You are missing the following 32-bit libraries, and Steam may not run: libGL.so.1
[19:31] <ripthejacker> This is the error I'm getting
[19:31] <Kitt3n> ripthejacker, open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs"
[19:32] <Kitt3n> That will turn your operating system to multiarch, and Steam will be able to launch
[19:33] <ripthejacker> 224 mb of additional installation :|
[19:34] <Kitt3n> ripthejacker, it installs the 32 bits libraries, 'all' of them
[19:34] <ripthejacker> yeah I can see it
[19:38] <Axel> hello
[19:38] <timhansen> afternoon, all.
[19:39] <timhansen> what's the current method of starting MySQL when the server starts / restarts
[19:39] <timhansen> using ubuntu 13.04
[19:40] <holstein> timhansen: should be, install it, and it starts with the system
[19:40] <wheatthin> #paste
[19:40] <wheatthin> !paste
[19:41] <timhansen> holstein: gotcha. we had our server restart on the 7th, and mysql didn't restart with it, so a client's WP site was down all day :/
[19:41] <timhansen> today, and yesterday
[19:41] <holstein> timhansen: http://askubuntu.com/questions/82374/how-do-i-start-stop-mysql-server
[19:42] <ripthejacker> Kitt3n: do i reboot after installing all that?
[19:42] <timhansen> holstein: yea, i was able to start the service without a problem, once the client notified us that their website was down >.>
[19:43] <timhansen> i just don't want the client to notice their website is down, lol
[19:44] <holstein> might be relevant timhansen http://askubuntu.com/questions/176148/ubuntu-12-04-mysql-doesnt-start-on-reboot-starts-ok-later-manually
[19:44] <ryebread761> Hello, will using the dual boot option in the Ubuntu installer remove my recovery partition?
[19:44] <Kitt3n> ripthejacker, I don't think you need to, but I guess you could if you want to
[19:44] <timhansen> holstein: gotcha. yea, i found another forum post that said to do the update-rc.d (so i did before hopping in this channel), but then later in the post, someone said that was irrelevant back in 08
[19:45] <timhansen> >.<
[19:45] <timhansen> lol
[19:45] <timhansen> is there a way to have the system email me when the server goes down?
[19:45] <holstein> should be.. not sure what you have going on ,but if it were depdent on my income, i would have some way of monitorying necessities
[19:45] <devsys> Hey all, I have a apache installation, and if I look in the root /var/www I see it is all owned by webdev:webdev. I use the webdev user. Now I would like to give someone else a login to the system so they can ssh in and create/modify files in the /var/www (owned by webdev:webdev). How do I do this? Thanks!
[19:45] <holstein> timhansen: http://www.nagios.org/ is the one i have heard of..
[19:46] <timhansen> ah, yes
[19:46] <devsys> timhansen: I use xymon
[19:46] <devsys> aka bigbrother/hobbit lol
[19:47] <timhansen> devsys: did it take much to get it up & configured?
[19:48] <ryebread761> Hey, anyone who if when selecting the install them side by side option to get a dual-boot, Ubuntu removes the recovery partition?
[19:49] <devsys> timhansen: it's not too bad once you understand how it works. Gotta edit the host configuration file manually but it provides nice agentless http/https/ssh/ftp/whatever monitoring
[19:49] <devsys> Check out the website, I know ubuntu has a package in the repo.
[19:50] <timhansen> gotcha
[19:50] <timhansen> yea, the website looks pretty ...basic
[19:50] <timhansen> and outdated lol
[19:50] <Kitt3n> !enter | timhansen
[19:50] <devsys> yep green is good, red is bad no ajax bbq just gets the job done
[19:51] <shaddow2k> devsys: maybe add a new user for the ssh login and add the user to the webdev group?
[19:51] <lunarjar> does anyone know how to remove the Desktop from /home so it doesn't reappear? rm -rf won't help
[19:51] <devsys> shaddow2k: yeah, thats what I have tried in the past, trying again now as per docs
[19:52] <devsys> it's a super derpy problem to have, I know.
[19:52] <Kitt3n> lunarjar, why would you want to remove the 'desktop'?
[19:52] <lunarjar> because it's useless Kitt3n
[19:53] <Kitt3n> lunarjar, no?
[19:53] <lunarjar> what no?
[19:53] <superdo> re
[19:54] <Kitt3n> lunarjar, the Desktop folder contains everything shown on your desktop?
[19:54] <lunarjar> I don't have anything on the desktop
[19:54] <shaddow2k> devsys: that's a good idea to have an extra account for other users, so you can better keep track of who did what. i guess there are many tutorials floating around for your problem :D
[19:54] <superdo> guys successfully forced broadcom wlan to work, ubuntu updated itself, and wlan again doesnt work , any idea?
[19:54] <holstein> superdo: try the older kernel
[19:55] <superdo> im on :)
[19:55] <Kitt3n> lunarjar, just don't care about it then? OR you could remove Unity *rolls eyes*
[19:55] <superdo> old kernel working
[19:55] <superdo> but surely its a way to make new kernel to work
[19:55] <superdo> what could be the difference this way
[19:56] <lunarjar> well thats not a solution Kitt3n I want to cd D to expand into cd Downloads not cd Desktop
[19:56] <holstein> superdo: the kernel support
[19:56] <superdo> holstein, right.
[19:56] <Kitt3n> lunarjar, is it seriously that hard to type "Downloads"?
[19:56] <superdo> holstein, firing lshw -C command wl0 even disappeared
[19:56] <superdo> strange
[19:57] <timhansen> lunarjar: or even Do
[19:58] <superdo> at least I can start installing this machine :P
[19:58] <superdo> so Im happy
[19:59] <lunarjar> Kitt3n, timhansen that's not the point, I like the attitude if you don't like it fix it, I hoped maybe someone has some guidance
[19:59] <rkokkelk> hi guys, has anyone any experience regarding emulation the raspberry PI with qemu?
[20:00] <timhansen> lunarjr: cd ~/ <enter> ln -s Downloads D <enter>
[20:00] <Kitt3n> That works. XD
[20:00] <apuchitnis> ChanServ: hello all! I'm looking for some advice on html & php... could someone perhaps suggest a suitable channel for me to visit?
[20:01] <Kitt3n> apuchitnis, /join #web
[20:02] <apuchitnis> thanks Kitt3n! And how about somewhere to learn to use irc...?
[20:04] <luke1> hey
[20:08] <devsys> shaddow2k: ok, so I recreated a user with sudo adduser jim and set the group using sudo usermod -a -G webdev jim I can login with the new jim user, but if I try to upload something to the /var/www directory (owned by webdev) I get a permission denied error. Any ideas? ls -lah shows webdev:webdev owning /var/www so shouldn't it work?
[20:10] <shaddow2k> devsys: how did you try to upload something?
[20:10] <devsys> shaddow2k: over sftp
[20:11] <rooisto47> deos the actual version of Inkscape support CMYK ?
[20:11] <devsys> shaddow2k: I guess it would be correctly called scp
[20:12] <shaddow2k> devsys: ok, yes i would say that should work, hmm
[20:14] <superdo> what cool music player you recomment ?
[20:14] <superdo> not the default one
[20:14] <holstein> !info vlc
[20:14] <devsys> ^^^
[20:14] <holstein> superdo: ^^ i like vlc
[20:14] <superdo> yes but for audio too?
[20:14] <superdo> hm
[20:15] <superdo> can handle online radios?
[20:15] <shaddow2k> !info clementine
[20:15] <superdo> :) I used clementine
[20:15] <holstein> superdo: should be similar looking in linux http://www.wikihow.com/Use-VLC-Media-Player-to-Listen-to-Internet-Radio
[20:15] <superdo> have no problem with it only want something new
[20:16] <superdo> ok thx holstein
[20:16] <superdo> shaddow2k, thx 4 you too
[20:17] <shaddow2k> superdo: you could try amarok, gmusicbrowser, tomahawk,..
[20:18] <holstein> audacious
[20:18] <superdo> thx copied them
[20:19] <devsys> Hey all, I have a apache installation, and if I look in the root /var/www I see it is all owned by webdev:webdev. I use the webdev user. Now I would like to give someone else a login to the system so they can ssh in and create/modify files in the /var/www (owned by webdev:webdev).  I created a user with "sudo adduser jim" and set the group using "sudo usermod -a -G webdev jim". But when I try to scp a file to the /var/www directory as the new user, I get permi
[20:20] <holstein> !chown | devsys
[20:21] <shaddow2k> devsys: did you get any error message while trying to upload your file?
[20:21] <crankharder> so, this cmd opens a dialog with a single yes/no question. "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pmedium unattended-upgrades"  -- Can I script it to select yes w/o the dialog?
[20:21] <holstein> devsys: i would keep that in a way that i had permission, and maybe to the work for them
[20:22] <faisao> I'm trying to install the last Ubuntu Desktop version on a PC... But after choose the language and put vga=771 to do the installation my LCD monitor show me a out of range Frequency.
[20:22] <holstein> !nomodeset | faisao is worth a try
[20:22] <faisao> My monitor are 60 Hz Frequency.
[20:22] <holstein> faisao: in the past,i have just used a different monitor
[20:22] <devsys> holstein: I'll review that doc, but it's rwx for user and group currently.
[20:22] <faisao> OK. I'm trying
[20:23] <devsys> shaddow2k: I just got a permission denied error.
[20:23] <holstein> devsys: i upload to a different location and move
[20:24] <T3l0> hello all
[20:24] <devsys> holstein: I see how that could work, but shouldn't I be able to make the new user a member of the webdev group so they have access?
[20:26] <devsys> Could my problem possibly be related to the sticky bit?
[20:26] <devsys> Or does that just apply to other users
[20:27] <shaddow2k> devsys: Sorry, had overlooked it. Maybe you need to restart the services, ssh, sftp?
[20:28] <devsys> shaddow2k: haven't bounced the services, I never have needed to before, plus I can login as the user, so it seems like it might be enough.
[20:28] <devsys> I think it's the sticky bit causing problems possibly
[20:28] <faisao> I'm with a Black Screen yet, after apply nomodeset. Now I'll try a acpi_osi="Linux" from the parameter that ubottu propose.
[20:29] <shaddow2k> devsys: http://askubuntu.com/questions/143700/granting-a-sftp-user-access-to-a-var-www-directory might be worth a look
[20:29] <devsys> thanks shaddow2k I will have a look
[20:31] <faisao> hum.....
[20:31] <faisao> noacpi + nomodeset + vga=771 works for me
[20:33] <faisao> Thx very much holstein and ubottu!
[20:33] <o3> hello
[20:35] <crankharder> so I just manually turned off ntpd (/etc/init.d/ntp stop) and ran "sudo ntpdate 0.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org"  -- and the update was over 70 seconds.
[20:35] <crankharder> if ntpd has been running, why was the time off by so much?
[20:35] <crankharder> this box is only a week old
[20:41] <pc3> Hello. Is there any way to set up a password for a guest account *OR* create a new username that acts like a Guest account (ie: have a temporary home directory or clean up on every login)?
[20:43] <faisao> noacpi + nomodeset + vga=771 works for me BUT, now when start Xorg, I can't see the installation screen. I only see the terminal screen.
[20:44] <faisao> Someone have some idea?
[20:47] <underc0mmand> i have a problem...i have an executable with these permission -rwsrwxr-x 1 root   root      8520 lug  8 15:22 prog but when i execute it like a normal user, my effective user id is not root...someone knows why?
[20:49] <yebyen> underc0mmand: how do you determine your effective user id?  some processes only need root to perform some initial step, and they cede root privilege after that...
[20:50] <underc0mmand> with this fuction geteuid()
[20:50] <underc0mmand> or output of the ps -ef command
[20:50] <Kitt3n> You can't run an application as root from your non-root user without sudo or supplying the root password in some other way.
[20:51] <underc0mmand> but i have set the suid bit on
[20:52] <Kitt3n> Okay, would you let a virus run as root without you entering the root password? nope.
[20:52] <Kitt3n> Would you want THAT to be possible? nope.
[20:52] <bekks> Kitt3n: You never heard of the suid bit, dont you ;)
[20:53] <underc0mmand> ok but only administrator can set the suid bit on his files
[20:53] <underc0mmand> bekks LOL
[20:54] <squid5> I wonder if using an account that is part of the sudoers file with the NOPSSWD enabled is as dangerous as using root account full-time?
[20:56] <shaddow2k> squid5: why would you want to do that?
[20:57] <underc0mmand> squid5: for sure but depends how sudoers file is configured
[20:57] <squid5> shaddow2k: just curious
[20:58] <shaddow2k> squid5: don't become that lazy ;)
[20:58] <squid5> i say that because think about it, if someone compromises your account they can still do the same thing that they could possibly do with root
[20:58] <mbeierl_> what's the name of that tool again that allows network throughput testing with UDP or TCP - client and server mode?
[20:58] <squid5> iperf
[20:58] <mbeierl_> squid5, THANKS!
[20:59] <underc0mmand> so does anyone know how to fix my problem?
[20:59] <squid5> mbeierl_: do you know how to use it?
[21:00] <squid5> I can help you if you want
[21:03] <squid5> shaddow2k: What is the most secured way to do it? Have the account in the sudoers file and put the password all the time?
[21:05] <jhutchins> How do I change window order in irssi?
[21:06] <shaddow2k> squid5: i would say yes, keep in the default state. If i have to enter many commands, i sometimes open a root shell with su
[21:06] <mbeierl_> squid5, yes, used it lots, just forgot its name.  was looking for ioperf instead and that got me all confused.  thanks for the offer!
[21:07] <squid5> Thank you shaddow2k!
[21:08] <goldshark> I have a intallation of 13.04 on VirtualBox. It is installed since January I think last month Unity stopped working and when I log in it shows me an empty screen with only my wallpaper. If I enter as a guest it works fine and if I go to TTY1 no problems also, so i guess the problem is with some options on my home directory. Can anyone help me restore Unity without loosing data?
[21:08] <shaddow2k> squid5: you're welcome
[21:10] <wolfslord> I have a intallation of 13.04 on VirtualBox. It is installed since January I think last month Unity stopped working and when I log in it shows me an empty screen with only my wallpaper. If I enter as a guest it works fine and if I go to TTY1 no problems also, so i guess the problem is with some options on my home directory. Can anyone help me restore Unity without loosing data?
[21:11] <shaddow2k> goldshark:, wolfslord It's possible to reset unity, but you need to open a least a terminal window to enter "unity-reset" Not sure if you can still start one?
[21:12]  * alfacard is backkk
[21:14] <shaddow2k> CTRL + ALT + T should open a terminal window
[21:14] <underc0mmand> wolfslord: login in TTY1 and use this command unity-reset like shaddow2k said
[21:14] <subz3r0> !dns | bla
[21:19] <WHAT_UP> i followed the instructions here https://www.nesono.com/node/368 but i still can't even run sudo init 6 without getting "init: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused". what do i do?
[21:20] <wolfslord> underc0mmand, I may have disconnected when shaddow2k said the command. Can please say again which command should i fire?
[21:20] <underc0mmand> wolfslord: unity-reset
[21:21] <wolfslord> comppctd4;
[21:23] <wolfslord> underc0mmand, No such command found. Wouldn't it be "untiy reset"?
[21:24] <underc0mmand> wolfslord: i dont' use unity maybe it's unity --reset
[21:24] <X-Sleepy-X>   --reset           Reset is not supported anymore. Deprecated option
[21:25] <wolfslord> X-Sleepy-X, exactly what i got. Now what ;p?
[21:26] <Selling_FDhypno_> superaffordable erotic hypnosis anyone? :)
[21:26] <shaddow2k> wolfslord: Regarding your unity problem: See here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears for help if my first command didn't help
[21:27] <OerHeks> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2013/04/how-to-restart-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail/
[21:28] <WHAT_UP> it's even worse now. as far as i can tell, nothing from upstart is working upon reboot. right after startup, the only things that appear in top are [init, vzctl, bash, top]. there should be loads of other processes running.
[21:30] <dixie__> how does this work am senior?
[21:31] <X-Sleepy-X> dixie__: hi! you just ask and wait for an answer provided that someone knows it or is willing to try to help you
[21:31] <dixie__> I had XP tower for 2 years and June 3rd it would not boot up.
[21:32] <dixie__> something about BIOS not ACPi compliant?
[21:32] <k1l_> dixie__: do you have a ubuntu issue?
[21:32] <dixie__> installed Xubuntu 10.04 and it is outdated.  Why can't I install 12 or 13 and my mouse won't work?
[21:33] <dixie__> I burned 12 and 13 Ubuntu to cd-rom but cannot install and then 10.04 won't boot up again had reinstall why?
[21:34] <dixie__> cannot reboot or shut down
[21:39] <Avon> I'm having trouble running running the Ubuntu Software Center. Here is the error I get when running from terminal http://pastebin.com/J9EhHk9c Use the gui to install anything from the store doesnt work.
[21:42] <K1rk> Hello
[21:43] <K1rk> I am trying to track down very high %SI levels on my server... what tools would you recommend to look into the cause of the problem?
[21:45] <thestig> Hello, I have a problem with my Ubuntu running on VMWare Player. It doesn't recognize my wired connection. Can anyone help a newbie user?
[21:46] <thestig> This problem happened after I have already used it perfectly for 2 weeks now. It just...stopped.
[21:47] <MonkeyDust> !vmware
[21:49] <thestig> I don't understand
[22:04] <ecart> hello
[22:04] <ecart> i need help
[22:04] <ecart> http://pastebin.com/iCJ9kUb5
[22:04] <ecart> with my iptable
[22:05] <ecart> Can someone help me open port 25 out?
[22:09] <steve1> I did  "dpkg -i --ignore-depends=somePkg some-other-pkg.deb" … but now every time I run apt-get it wants me to "apt-get -f install", which uninstalls my manually-installed package.  How do I get apt-get to leave it alone?
[22:14] <prasselpikachu> hello
[22:14] <prasselpikachu> so, i got a problem
[22:14] <shwaiil> hi
[22:15] <DGMurdockIII> say it
[22:15] <prasselpikachu> since updating to 13.04, my sound stutters until i restart pulseaudio. this is only happening after boot
[22:15] <DGMurdockIII> dont tell me
[22:15] <fisherman> i got a 8 gig flash drive but can seem to make a persistant Ubuntu install with more than 4 gigs of persistance  for saving changes.
[22:15] <fisherman> cant
[22:16] <shwaiil> Q: Ubuntu 12.04 Server does it have a firewall by default ? If true, it's allowing all connections right ? I'm learning Ruby, so I installed Sinatra. Trying to run a hello world example in port 4567 (default port), but the connection is being refused. How to troubleshoot this ? Thanks for looking!
[22:16] <DGMurdockIII> prasselpikachu	second, some time later after having my laptop laying around switched on, it suddenly denies any access and "sudo start pulseaudio" still does something but isnt coming to an end
[22:16] <prasselpikachu> yeah
[22:16] <prasselpikachu> that
[22:17] <flyman> i got a 8 gig flash drive but cannot seem to make a persistant Ubuntu install with more than 4 gigs of persistance  for saving changes.
[22:17] <flyman> any ideers?
[22:19] <varunendra> fisherman, flyman  it is the limitation of fat32 file system. Changes are saved in "casper-rw" file, and No file can be larger than 4GB in a fat/32 filesystem.
[22:20] <flyman> varunendra no way to change this then?
[22:20] <varunendra> flyman, if you want more than 4GB persistence, you will have to create a separate (ext3) partition of the size you want, then label that partition as "casper-rw" and delete the file "casper-rw" in the live partition.
[22:20] <varunendra> flyman, read above :)
[22:20] <flyman> i see
[22:20] <flyman> ty
[22:21] <varunendra> np :)
[22:21] <flyman> kind of limits what you can do with a ubuntu persistan flash
[22:22] <varunendra> flyman, except doing updates, pretty much everything that is within that limit. But it slowly gets full, so not recommended for long term usage.
[22:22] <flyman> yeah, cannot install much
[22:23] <varunendra> yup
[22:23] <varunendra> flyman, you can have a 7 GB casper-rw partition if you wish though ;)
[22:23] <flyman> there ought to be a script that does this for youi
[22:23] <flyman> hehe
[22:24] <flyman> cool
[22:24] <varunendra> flyman, there may be one, but I don't know of any. But it's easy enough (create partition > rename it > delete the file)
[22:25] <prasselpikachu> anyone knows a solution about that pulseaudio thing?
[22:25] <flyman> uh-huh
[22:30] <netlar> I was wondering how to fix not being able to add bookmarks to nautilus?
[22:30] <netlar> I am on Ubuntu 13.04\
[22:30] <histo> flyman: if you use startup disk creator it takes care of all of that for you.
[22:30] <histo> flyman: just drag a slider for the size of the peristent storage amount.
[22:30] <netlar> It is a fresh install
[22:31] <histo> netlar: what happens when you add one?
[22:31] <netlar> It lets me add it from the options menu, but it does not show up anywhere
[22:32] <histo> netlar: Do you have the bar displayed along the left side?
[22:32] <histo> netlar: within nautilus that is
[22:32] <netlar> histo: Yes that is there
[22:33] <histo> netlar: What about in the manage book marks dialog does it show you bookmark there?
[22:33] <amer> Hi guys. I have asus U500VZ. I installed ubuntu 13.04. some of the function keys are not working (keyboard backlit + wirless). I installed asus-dkm module but still not working. any help ? thanks
[22:33] <histo> netlar: and how are you creating the bookmark?
[22:33] <netlar> histo: It is not there either
[22:33] <histo> netlar: then it didn't get created
[22:33] <netlar> And it does not have a plus button there, just a minus button
[22:34] <histo> netlar: navigate to a directory and ctrl+d will create a bookmark there
[22:34] <andy_749> Guten abend sprechen Sie deutsch?
[22:34] <histo> !de | andy_749
[22:34] <netlar> histo: Is there suppose to be a plus button in the bookmarks dialog box?
[22:35] <histo> netlar: I have no idea what dialog box you are speaking of
[22:35] <flyman> Randy Travis in critical condition....
[22:35] <netlar> In the file menu of nautilus, there is a menu item Bookmarks that pulls up the bookmarks dialog box
[22:35] <amer> Hi guys. I have asus U500VZ. I installed ubuntu 13.04. some of the function keys are not working (keyboard backlit + wirless). I installed asus-dkm module but still not working. any help ? thanks
[22:36] <netlar> histo: It does not create a bookmark with I do ctrl+d
[22:36] <histo> netlar: can you post a screenshot?
[22:36] <histo> !paste | netlar
[22:36] <andy_749> I installed pingus and dont want it. how do I format my PC?
[22:37] <netlar> ok
[22:37] <Slart> andy_749: what is pingus?
[22:37] <ambush276> hey guys i was wondering if there is something that exists for my current dilema
[22:38] <ambush276> i have a program that i want to basically fork every time it is called.
[22:38] <flyman> lol
[22:38] <t4nk34245> Dumb question: is there a way to start a program from the terminal, but still be able to use the terminal afterwards?  e.g. I want to open a file with gedit or geany so I use geany lv.cpp, but the terminal can't be used until I've closed the program.
[22:38] <flyman> gparted perhaps?
[22:38] <Slart> t4nk34245: end the command with   &
[22:38] <ulkesh> t4nk34245: add an & after
[22:38] <doomlord> &
[22:38] <t4nk34245> thanks!
[22:38] <Slart> t4nk34245: something like    gedit &   will give you a terminal prompt back and still run gedit
[22:39] <ulkesh> t4nk34245: you can also, if the program is running, hit CTRL+z and then type bg<ENTER>
[22:39] <doomlord> t4nk34245,  areyou using gedit for coding
[22:39] <ambush276> so basically each user will go to my site and every time they start a new session over 443, i want to fork this program so that 443 will be a listener and basically have multiple instances of the same process listening on 443. The issue is that this process is not really "forkable" Hence, i was wondering is there some way i can have something listen on 443, which when "hit" will basically spawn off another instance of the applicati
[22:39] <netlar> histo: http://imagebin.org/263809
[22:39] <ambush276> this applicatoin goes with this process?
[22:39] <t4nk34245> @doomlord no, it was just an example.
[22:39] <Slart> t4nk34245: there are lots of commands like this.. see "man bash" for other similar stuff
[22:39] <ambush276> so basically like a forking program
[22:40] <schultza> how do i use /lib/lsb/init-functions to log a program/script's output to another file (/var/log/program.log rather than /var/log/messages|user.log)?
[22:40] <Slart> ambush276: I'm not sure if you can have multiple processes listening to the same socket..
[22:40] <histo> netlar: No there's no plus sign there.  You up at the top bar you can add bookmarks under the Bookmarks dialog.  Or you can press Ctrl+D  to create a bookmark. Ctrl+B will bring up that manage bookmarks dialog you are looking at
[22:40] <Slart> ambush276: but I wouldn't rate myself very high when it comes to network programming so you might want to get a second oppinion on that
[22:41] <netlar> histo: yes, got that part, but it is not adding bookmarks
[22:42] <ulkesh> ambush276: I would expect you'd need some sort of master process that listens on port 443 and then spawns sub-processes
[22:42] <ulkesh> ambush276: similar to how web servers work (well, web-application servers like tomcat)
[22:42] <histo> netlar: http://imagebin.org/263811
[22:42] <ulkesh> ambush276: though tomcat is a bad example since that's just spawning threads, not technically system level processes
[22:43] <netlar> histo: Now that is interesting
[22:43] <netlar> I only have the first menu item "Files"
[22:43] <histo> netlar: ahh they must have chnaged nautlis.  That was taken on my 12.04 machine
[22:43] <netlar> ahh ok
[22:44] <ambush276> yea but how
[22:44] <ambush276> ulkesh
[22:44] <ambush276> the program i have does not have a fork parameter
[22:45] <netlar> histo: maybe I need to configure nautilus?
[22:45] <ulkesh> ambush276: i'm saying you would need to find or write a program that will listen on 443 and then when hit calls your program
[22:45] <ulkesh> ambush276: i don't have any "one-shot" solution, i'm just providing suggestions on what i expect a solution would entail
[22:45] <ambush276> gotchya
[22:45] <ambush276> kk
[22:46] <Guest15333> Hey got a little issue... how do i change the dock widdget at the bottom of Ubuntu studio 13.04
[22:46] <ulkesh> ambush276: an example..i'm actually working on something at my work where i have a web service spawn an ffmpeg process for transcoding
[22:46] <ulkesh> ambush276: the web service is technically a single process...when a request comes in, i then set up (in groovy code) a call to ffmpeg and run it
[22:47] <flyman> brb
[22:47] <ulkesh> ambush276: the web service can handle many requests at the same time, so technically i'm spawning potentially many ffmpeg processes (yeah, lots of resource issues possibly here, but it's a prototype :) )
[22:52] <Guest15333> any one can help?
[22:53] <histo> netlar: doubtfull as far as I know as long as the places sidebar is displayed your bookmarks should show there in the side bar.   Now if you bookmark is a network resource which is unavailable it will not be displayed.
[22:53] <netlar> histo: I think they did change nautilus.  There are some features that were taken away with the latest version of nautilus
[22:54] <histo> Guest15333: /join #ubuntustudio
[22:54] <histo> netlar: bookmarking is not one of them as far as I am aware. Especially since you can manage your bookmarks
[22:55] <netlar> histo: But it is strange that I only have the "Files" menu on the top menu bar
[22:57] <histo> netlar: http://askubuntu.com/questions/293985/what-are-the-new-nautilus-3-6-shortcuts-in-ubuntu-13-04
[22:58] <netlar> Yes the shortcuts work
[22:58] <histo> netlar: they obviously aren't if you add a bookmark and then it's not showing in the bookmarks manager dialog.
[22:58] <netlar> histo: true true
[22:59] <netlar> histo: maybe there is a conflict somewhere
[23:00] <Cetrian> Hi all - installing Ubuntu Server for the first time right now =]
[23:01] <histo> netlar: I'm trying to grep for my bookmark to see where exactly nautilus stores that information
[23:01] <netlar> histo: even the menu is not right
[23:01] <Cetrian> I'm really impressed with the installer so far - very easy to use and effective. no bloat.
[23:02] <netlar> histo: your has "Home folder" first then "Files".  Mine has "Files" first then "Files" again, so strange
[23:02] <netlar> histo: maybe I need to reinstall nautilus?
[23:03] <histo> netlar: or perhaps you have a bookmark for files
[23:04] <netlar> histo: I think whatever folder you are in with nuatilus is what is displayed on that first item on top of the screen
[23:04] <histo> netlar: so if you navigate to some directory like /tmp and press ctrl+d  does tmp then appear in the places menu on the left
[23:05] <netlar> histo: I am actually talking about at the very top of the screen
[23:06] <netlar> histo: on your screen shot , it shows "Home folder"
[23:09] <netlar> histo: no, tmp does not appear on the places menu when I do ctrl+d
[23:10] <netlar> histo: It does show up now, but under the bookmarks section
[23:11] <beyondcr> Hello, I just got a new mouse and the two side buttons I like to use as back and forward for web browsing, the buttons are reserved compared to a normal mouse I was wondering if there is a way to map the keys back, I am using ubuntu 13.04 with unity. Thanks
[23:12] <hadifarnoud> I did nmap on a server. what does this mean? Warning: <IP_ADDRESS> giving up on port because retransmission cap hit (10).
[23:14] <netlar> histo: it is only bookmarking the top level folder from a directory, but will not bookmark folders in that directory
[23:18] <netlar> histo: It does seem messed up
[23:18] <netlar> Is reinstalling nautilus ok to do?
[23:21] <riex> Somebody that can tell me which kind of packet this here is: "IP <IP_ADDRESS>.snmp > myip: [len1468<asnlen8182]"?
[23:23] <rickb> hello. I am getting this, every time I try to install a package, or any interaction with dpkg or apt... ant idea? https://pastebin.com/rBxXbkjx
[23:24] <netlar> Guess I will just have to live with Nautilus being messed up
[23:25] <agora> netlar did someone say it is unsafe to reinstall nautilus?
[23:25] <nimdAHK> can I symlink .conf files from an NTFS partition to an ext4 partition?
[23:27] <vlt> nimdAHK: I don’t think NTFS supports symlinks at all. But I’m not sure.
[23:30] <nimdAHK> vlt: NTFS has hardlinks
[23:30] <nimdAHK> but I want to access data on the NTFS partition as an ext4 file
[23:30] <nimdAHK> ln or whatever makes links just has to be able to read from the partition
[23:31] <sporkeee> nimdAHK, As a ext4 file, what does that mean
[23:31] <bekks> NTFS supports hardlinks, bit no symlinks. And if you want to access a datafile on NTFS as ext4, loopback mount it.
[23:31] <sporkeee> nimdAHK, Open it.
[23:31] <nimdAHK> sporkeee: it opens fine
[23:31] <nimdAHK> but it's a .conf file
[23:31] <nimdAHK> so I have to have it represented as an ext4 file
[23:32] <nimdAHK> worst case, I'll copy it back and forth with a bash script
[23:32] <sporkeee> nimdAHK, ext4 has nothing to do with it.
[23:32] <bekks> nimdAHK: Unless the content isnt an ext4 filesystem, there is no point in accessing it "as ext4".
[23:32] <nimdAHK> it's not
[23:32] <nimdAHK> that's the point
[23:32] <bekks> nimdAHK: So access it. It has nothing to do with ext4-
[23:32] <sporkeee> nimdAHK, You have yet to make a point. ;)
[23:32] <nimdAHK> alright hold on
[23:32] <nimdAHK> I'll pastebin an explanation
[23:33] <kelly> guys , I installed Lubuntu 13.04 64bit , I can't access my samba share with PCmanFM , I've already installed samba samba-common system-config-samba python-glade2 gvfs-bin then i open PCmanFM - GO - Network Drivers , i see all the other PC's on the network but when i open any one of them there is an error message appear says "The specified location is not mounted" i typed smb://WORKGROUP/kelly-PC also i tried : smb://<IP_ADDRESS> same problem
[23:35]  * sporkeee senses a homework assignment
[23:35] <bekks> sporkeee: :D
[23:35] <sporkeee> no soup for you
[23:35] <nimdAHK> bekks: sporkeee: vlt: http://paste2.org/XUZ4wMeB
[23:35] <sporkeee> ;)
[23:36] <bekks> Create a symlink on the ext4 fs.
[23:36] <nimdAHK> that's the idea
[23:36] <bekks> Then do it?
[23:36] <bekks> cd ~/.program/
[23:36] <histo> kelly: you may receive more help in #lubuntu let me check some things though.
[23:37] <bekks> ln -s /wherever/your/file/is/located/settings.conf ~/.program/settings.conf
[23:37] <nimdAHK> thanks
[23:37] <bekks> nimdAHK: What does it have to do with "accessing it as ext4"?
[23:37] <histo> kelly: install gvfs gvfs-common
[23:37] <nimdAHK> bekks: when I said "as an ext4 file"
[23:38] <nimdAHK> all I meant was "as a file on the ext4 partition"
[23:38] <bekks> nimdAHK: now that make sense - since there is no such thing like "an ext4 file".
[23:38] <histo> kelly: also try with dbus-launch pcmanfm  see if that hellps
[23:38] <rickb> can someone take a look at my pastebin please?
[23:39] <kelly> i installed also gvfs gvfs-common , now i tried dbus-launch pcmanfm , but same problem same error message
[23:40] <paul_9> curses!  fooled by smuxi!
[23:40] <sporkeee> rickb, A double fail kernel install?
[23:40] <rickb> sporkeee: all of it came from apt..
[23:40] <rickb> no hackery ;-;
[23:41] <sporkeee> rickb, You have a broken package('s) it looks like
[23:41] <tlipcon> hey folks. Is there a PPA which has the linux-tools package for mainline kernels? Using a new kernel from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.9.9-saucy/ but now "perf" doesn't work
[23:41] <Kitt3n> rickb, perhaps try "sudo apt-get install -f"?
[23:42] <sporkeee> rickb, Could your HD be full. No space left on device
[23:42] <kelly> Error mounting //<IP_ADDRESS>/
[23:44] <kelly> histo: i tried pyNeighborhood with no luck " Error mounting //<IP_ADDRESS>/"
[23:44] <histo> kelly: can you mount it normally from command line?
[23:44] <kelly> how can i do that ?
[23:45]  * derp farts
[23:45] <bekks> kelly: You have to specify the share, not just the IP.
[23:45] <kelly> ok
[23:45] <rickb> oops
[23:45] <histo> kelly: The #lubuntu room may be able to help you as far as browsing shares as I'm assuming this would work out of the box on their distro
[23:45] <rickb> sporkeee: hdd wasn't full but /boot was :|
[23:46] <rickb> fixed
[23:46] <rickb> :) <3
[23:46] <histo> kelly: smb://ip address of server/share name
[23:46] <histo> kelly: would be the way in pcmanfm
[23:46] <kelly> yeah it's working :) u made my day , thank you
[23:48] <histo> kelly: just fyi to mount you could mkdir /home/kelly/somedirectory && sudo mount -t cifs //ip address/sharename /home/kelly/somedirectory    in the future
[23:48] <Cetrian> Hi all - is the general consensus that for file sharing, Nautilus is the best way to go?
[23:48] <histo> kelly: the other option is using nautilus or thunar which allow you to browse the network.
[23:49] <netlar> Anyone having issues with nautilus 3.6 not adding bookmarks?
[23:50] <sporkeee> Cetrian, WE don't do polls.
[23:50] <kelly> thank you histo
[23:50] <netlar> sporkeee: not a poll
[23:51] <netlar> Need help
[23:51] <bekks> Cetrian: Nope. And we dont take polls.
[23:51] <sporkeee> netlar, Yes you seem to I was addressing another user notice the nick.
[23:51] <histo> Cetrian: Nautilus doesnt' do file sharing
[23:51] <Cetrian> Sorry, not intended to be a poll ?
[23:52] <Cetrian> histo: thanks
[23:52] <netlar> opps sorry
[23:52] <sporkeee> ;)
[23:54] <boshaus> are there any good web interfaces for graphing system stats etc?
[23:54] <boshaus> i've done mrtg in the past.. but something less painless to set up would be nice
[23:54] <histo> Cetrian: it can invoke other utilities to create shares though.
[23:55] <Trel> What package contains the "additional drivers" program?
[23:56] <histo> Trel: depends on which version of ubuntu you are using since it's been moved around. It used to be part of jockey
[23:57] <krabador> no alternate iso for 13.04 ?
[23:57] <histo> Trel: now they've built it into Software Sources in 12.10+ I believe
[23:57] <Trel> histo: if it matters I'm using kubuntu 64 bit. I don't have it installed, so I'm trying to find out what package it's contained in
[23:58] <histo> krabador: You could use the network installer
[23:58] <krabador> histo, it's for an user with boot problems
[23:58] <histo> Trel: what version?
[23:58] <Trel> latest, I forget the number (and the command to check)
[23:59] <kingnick42> 13.04?
[23:59] <histo> krabador: Yeah I would try the net installer or booting with nomodeset  would probably solve their issues
[23:59] <krabador> histo, it's an unexperienced user
[23:59] <histo> !nomodeset | krabador
[23:59] <Trel> I'll check my iso, one sec
[23:59] <Trel> yes, 13.04
[23:59] <histo> Trel: It should be in the software sources dialog ... Ask in #kubuntu though