[00:04] <Krixvar> Got a 404 on http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/source/Sources when upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10, I can just delete that one right? I'd imagine its either not needed or will be replaced by a 14.10 equivalent?
[00:05] <valorie> of course
[00:05] <valorie> you don't want any raring dists left
[00:06] <valorie> or PPAs for that matter
[00:06] <Krixvar> Thanks, that's what I figured, just didn't want to risk killing things :P
[00:06] <Krixvar> yeah, it disabled 3rd party ppas as expected
[00:06] <valorie> they should be deleted automatically
[00:06] <Krixvar> in the past its just commented them out for me
[00:06] <valorie> the old way of upgrading was just replacing the names in each link
[00:07] <valorie> rather chancy to do that now
[00:07] <Krixvar> how come? Still not super knowledgeable about the nitty gritty of ubuntu yet
[00:10] <Krixvar> weird.. for two repos it changed one of the two binary/src to utopic but left the other
[00:11] <valorie> that is wrong
[00:11] <valorie> which was left at raring?
[00:12] <Krixvar> deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu raring partner
[00:12] <Krixvar> deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring main
[00:12] <Krixvar> I manually edited those both to be utopic, then ran the updater again and it changed them both back for some reason
[00:12] <archetech2> how do I stop all these *(&^&%^%$# roll over pop ups in plasma5/next?
[00:13] <archetech2> specifically quassel
[00:16] <Krixvar> I'm starting to feel I should just reinstall over thanksgiving break.. this system has been through at least 2 upgrades if not 3 or 4 and I think some things have gotten mixed up 0.o
[00:16] <valorie> archetech2: I've never seen such, so I imagine that is a quassel thing
[00:16] <valorie> ask in #quassel
[00:16] <archetech2> k
[00:16] <Krixvar> Probably because I've been using synaptic instead of muon and it seems that synaptic, muon, and my sources.list all show different sources...
[00:17] <valorie> Krixvar: I would add the correct lines, and delete the old ones in muon or something
[00:17] <valorie> rather than trying to edit manually
[00:17] <Krixvar> I tried that this time - synaptic shows everything as fine so I changed it in muon
[00:18] <valorie> ah, synaptic
[00:18] <valorie> I used to love that too
[00:19] <valorie> muon package manager is even better though
[00:19] <valorie> and of course the cli is fastest
[00:19] <Krixvar> I want to like it... help convince me?
[00:19] <valorie> I don't like Discover much
[00:19] <valorie> but I do like the package manager
[00:19] <valorie> Krixvar: it is a tool; use what you like
[00:19] <Krixvar> muon, that is - I use cli unless its a lot of packages or searching for something I don't know the name of
[00:19] <valorie> this ain't religion
[00:21] <archetech2> amen sister
[00:21] <Krixvar> well said
[00:21] <Krixvar> I just feel like it might be advantageous to use the integrated kde software to prevent weird hiccups like this again
[00:22] <Krixvar> huh I never saw the muon package manager before.. appears to be ugpraded kpackagekit?
[00:22] <valorie> I think that's how it started, yes
[00:23] <Krixvar> I'll have to check it out then... I think the only reason I switched to synaptic was because it had better control over which version of a package is installed, which I don't really need atm
[00:24] <Krixvar> back to work, thanks for the verification on removing the sources :)
[00:25] <valorie> synaptic used to be the best indeed
[00:25] <valorie> glad to help
[00:25] <archetech2> valorie:   same error as above
[00:26] <archetech2> Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:~neon/ubuntu/kf5-snapshot-weekly'.
[00:26] <archetech2> The team named '~neon' has no PPA named 'ubuntu/kf5-snapshot-weekly'
[00:26] <valorie> where are you getting the advice to add that?
[00:26] <valorie> neon is gone.....
[00:27] <archetech2> https://community.kde.org/Plasma/InstallingNext#How_to_install_test_versions_of_Plasma_Next
[00:27] <archetech2> you said this was fixed
[00:28] <valorie> yes, did you clear your cache?
[00:28] <valorie> only /next is advised, or using the plasma5 iso
[00:29] <archetech2> ok cache was the prob
[00:31] <valorie> :-)
[00:33] <archetech2> so my neon install will now break in spectacular ways?
[00:33] <archetech2> heh
[00:33] <valorie> archetech2: at some point you might want to `sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove`
[00:33] <valorie> and get rid of that neon stuff
[00:33] <valorie> once you have successfully added p5
[00:34] <valorie> you will no longer have a neon install
[00:34] <valorie> you'll have plasma 5, and plasma 5 alone
[00:34] <archetech2> good
[00:34] <valorie> this is a big step, and it can kill kittens
[00:34] <valorie> be advised
[00:35] <valorie> that said, I'm loving it
[00:35] <valorie> ...and reporting bugs
[00:35] <archetech2> ok i signed up for trouble when I agreed to install it I fig
[00:36] <valorie> natch
[00:36] <valorie> 14.04 was so solid and clean I got bored
[00:39] <archetech2> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next
[00:39] <archetech2> sudo apt update
[00:39] <archetech2> I ran those and nothing happens  up to date
[00:44] <valorie> there is no output after update?
[00:45] <valorie> archetech2: for the record, your 14.10 install is all running smoothly?
[00:45] <archetech2> very well
[00:46] <valorie> cool
[00:47] <valorie> you know that update just updates the sources, right?
[00:47] <valorie> It doesn't install anything
[00:48] <archetech2> ok  but I run this kf5-config --kde-version I get 5.3.0
[00:48] <valorie> yes
[00:48] <valorie> next isn't the daily-unstable
[00:48] <valorie> which is guaranteed to kill kittens
[00:49] <archetech2> I hate fittens anyhow
[00:49] <archetech2> k
[00:49] <archetech2> jk
[00:50]  * valorie flies off in a fit of rage
[00:50] <archetech2> lol its a sick world
[00:50] <valorie> actually, I'm off to eat dinner in a few mins
[00:51] <archetech2> where we going?
[00:51] <valorie> when I did this upgrade, I had to repeat the steps in a console
[00:51] <valorie> AND i had to remove lightdm manually even after choose SDDM properly
[00:51] <valorie> so be ready to resort to a console
[00:52]  * valorie invites archetech2 over for leftover night
[00:52] <archetech2> For daily builds, install ppa:kubuntu-ci/unstable as above.  Ill try this
[00:53] <valorie> be warned, it will blow up
[00:53] <valorie> daily
[00:53] <valorie> that said, we need moar testers
[00:53] <archetech2> i havent got daily
[00:53] <valorie> join #kubuntu-ci to watch the builds
[00:56] <archetech2> ok 2100 to be upgraded :)
[00:56] <archetech2> 210
[00:59] <archetech2> I'll reboot and watch the fireworks   brb
[01:13] <archetech2>  kf5-config --kde-version
[01:13] <archetech2> 5.5.0   :)
[01:29] <keithzg> Ready to take the plunge over into Plasma5 on my laptop, is the official method just the kubuntu-ppa/next ppa?
[01:31] <archetech2> https://community.kde.org/Plasma/InstallingNext#How_to_install_test_versions_of_Plasma_Next
[01:32] <archetech2> I have it on vbox  even unstable repo works well so far
[01:33] <archetech2> keithzg:   I'd use the latest iso
[01:35] <keithzg> archetech2: Well, I'm already running Kubuntu 14.10 on my laptop, so installing via the ISO doesn't make much sense to me.
[01:36] <archetech2> ya im not clairvoyant
[01:37] <keithzg> heh
[01:37] <keithzg> so the ISOs are just drawing from the same packages? ie. if you *did* install via the ISO, it'd have the PPA configured in the sources list?
[01:37] <archetech2> what DE is on that now?
[01:37] <keithzg> I mean, that's what I'm assuming, I just figured I should check.
[01:38] <keithzg> I'm just running bog-standard Kubuntu 14.10 at the moment on here.
[01:38] <archetech2> cli?
[01:38] <archetech2> or kde4?
[01:38] <keithzg> bog-standard Kubuntu, so, not CLI, that'd be ubuntu-server or minimal :P
[01:39] <archetech2> well I said iso because I prefer to start fresh with experimental software
[01:41] <keithzg> Fair enough; I tend to prefer the opposite, since if things break it tends to be far more illuminating, haha
[01:42] <keithzg> I have one machine where I jumped into upgrades for each alpha starting with Kubuntu 5.10 :P
[01:43] <keithzg> It's also a large part of my day job to fix and maintain Linux systems, so jumping in early on test machines lets me worst-case-scenario it.
[01:44] <archetech2> benn on kf5 since 5.0.0   just went to 5.5 tonight
[01:53] <keyonce04> sorry,i went to  my freinds brithday party
[01:53] <keyonce04> hello
[01:53] <keyonce04> hi keithzg
[01:54] <keyonce04> welcome
[01:55] <keyonce04> hi simonides
[01:55] <keyonce04> how is evry one
[01:57] <keyonce04> hi archetech
[01:58] <keyonce04> welcome jikan
[01:58] <keyonce04> how are u
[01:58] <keyonce04> ?
[01:59] <keyonce04> hello
[02:00] <keyonce04> welcome kameloso
[02:01] <keyonce04> keyonce04 is loking for somewone to chat with(i am keyonce04)
[02:03] <keyonce04> hello,archtech
[02:04] <keyonce04> hello?
[02:04] <keyonce04> brb
[02:06] <keyonce04> hi,ppl
[02:14] <valorie> keyonce04: chat is in #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:15] <valorie> this chan is for support
[02:15] <valorie> archetech2: so it went well?
[02:16] <keyonce04> do u mean me?
[02:16] <archetech2> valorie:   yes on kf5  5.5.0 now
[02:17] <valorie> keyonce04: this chan is for support
[02:17] <keyonce04> hi
[02:17] <valorie> chat is in #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:17] <keyonce04> hi valorie
[02:21] <keyonce04> hello
[02:32] <keyonce04> welcome
[02:36] <valorie> keyonce04: please stop that here
[02:36] <valorie> this channel is for support
[02:36] <keyonce04> what?
[02:37] <keyonce04> please stop what
[02:37] <valorie> typing random greetings
[02:38] <keyonce04> ok
[03:11] <kavaco> hi, can i install the "vgaswitcheroo" on kubuntu?
[03:14] <valorie> !info vgaswitcheroo
[03:15] <valorie> kavaco: have never heard of it
[03:15] <valorie> what is it?
[03:16] <kavaco> valorie: http://xpressrazor.wordpress.com/2013/10/08/enable-and-use-open-source-radeon-drivers-in-a-muxless-hybrid-graphics-intelamd-setup/
[03:17] <kavaco> swith video cards
[03:17] <kavaco> to me: intel / radeon
[03:29] <valorie> kavaco: you can use xorg/edgers certainly
[03:29] <valorie> kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE after all
[03:29] <valorie> and there was a recent update to that, I heard today
[03:30] <valorie> that tut sounds smack-on
[03:33] <keyonce04> hello
[03:35] <keyonce04> hi,i love to chat
[03:36] <valorie> welcome back
[03:36] <keyonce04> hi,pedro
[03:36] <keyonce04> tnank you
[03:36] <valorie> you know, there are entire networks where people just chat
[03:37] <valorie> pedro?
[03:37] <keyonce04> really
[03:37] <valorie> freenode is not generally one of those networks
[03:37] <valorie> most people here are working in free software
[03:37] <keyonce04> wow
[03:37] <valorie> that is really the point of freenode, after all
[03:38] <keyonce04> yeah
[03:39] <keyonce04> silvia i awake now
[03:40] <valorie> oops, sorry, I mistook this for -offtopic
[03:40] <keyonce04> what?
[03:40] <kavaco> valorie: can you help me?
[03:40] <valorie> as I said before, this is a support channel, NOT a chat channel
[03:41] <keyonce04> hi kavaco
[03:41] <valorie> kavaco: did your tutorial not work?
[03:41] <keyonce04> me?
[03:42] <kavaco> valorie: no
[03:42] <keyonce04> ok
[03:42] <kavaco> hi keyonce04
[03:42] <keyonce04> how are u
[03:42] <kavaco> very nice
[03:42] <valorie> can you show me the error message in a pastebin, kavaco?
[03:42] <valorie> !paste
[03:43] <valorie> keyonce04: please stop that in here, and use #kubuntu-offtopic for chat
[03:43] <kavaco> what command?
[03:43] <keyonce04> ok
[03:43] <valorie> or I will kick you from the channel
[03:43] <valorie> kavaco: were not you following http://xpressrazor.wordpress.com/2013/10/08/enable-and-use-open-source-radeon-drivers-in-a-muxless-hybrid-graphics-intelamd-setup/ ?
[03:44] <kavaco> wow
[03:44] <kavaco> yes
[03:44] <kavaco> wait please
[03:44] <keyonce04> OK
[03:45] <kavaco> valorie: cat: /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado
[03:45] <valorie> kavaco: I don't understand
[03:45] <valorie> did you follow the instructions in your link?
[03:45] <kavaco> on Step 3
[03:46] <kavaco> from tutorial
[03:46] <valorie> kavaco: did you restart, as they instruct?
[03:47] <valorie> and did you enable compositing in systemsettings
[03:47] <valorie> I notice they don't mention kubuntu, but that's where it is
[03:47] <valorie> or just start typing compositing into alt+f2
[03:51] <rx_> hi everyone! is kde supposed to work with nouveau driver? i have probably the most "classic" nvidia card (geforce7) and it doesnt work at all. i have to boot with nomodeset to see something on the screen. then i can install nvidia 304.88 drivers and they work okay with plasma4. however, the same drivers dont work at all with plasma5+... i have to apt remove both nvidia and nouveau driver to get it to work and strangely X reports using vm
[03:51] <rx_> ware drivers (this is a a real machine not a vm)
[03:52] <rx_> vmware
[03:52] <valorie> that sounds very strange
[03:52] <valorie> !nvidia
[03:53] <valorie> I've not messed with drivers for years
[03:53] <valorie> and yes, kde works with nouveau
[03:54] <kavaco> valorie: we forget that tutorial?
[03:54] <kavaco> valorie: and try other alternative, you know.
[03:54] <rx_> its weird because kubuntu 4.10 kde4 installer does not work out of the box with my so classic 5 years old machine without nomodeset... :(
[03:54] <valorie> kavaco: you didn't answer my question
[03:54] <valorie> did you set compositing, and did you restart?
[03:55] <kavaco> no
[03:55] <kavaco> i dont speak english very well
[03:55] <valorie> well, the tutorial writer knows more than both of us put together, so I would follow that advice
[03:55] <valorie> to the letter
[03:55] <kavaco> sometimes, i dont undertand, sorry
[03:56] <valorie> kavaco: step two says to set up compositing
[03:56] <valorie> as i said earlier, just do alt+f2
[03:56] <rx_> hehe that page is olddddd
[03:56] <valorie> then start typing compositing
[03:56] <valorie> and turn that on in systemsetting
[03:56] <valorie> s
[03:56] <valorie> then restart
[03:56] <rx_> and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsNvidia was updated 4years ago
[03:56] <valorie> THEN you can do step 3
[03:57] <valorie> rx_: sorry about that
[03:57] <kavaco> this @xcompmgr -n?
[03:57] <valorie> as I said, I've not messed with drivers for years
[03:57] <rx_> hehe thats fine ;o)
[03:57] <rx_> im looking for someone with my setup
[03:57] <rx_> i must not be the only one
[03:58] <valorie> this is usually a quiet time in the channel though
[03:58] <valorie> the Europeans aren't up and around yet
[03:58] <rx_> why??? all the gfs are sleeping ;-)
[03:58] <valorie> Americans are all doing something else
[04:00] <kavaco> valorie: i dont update. i ran it now
[04:00] <kavaco> on step one
[04:01] <kavaco> installing the updated packages now
[04:10] <kavaco> valorie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9036755/
[04:10] <kavaco> its ok?
[04:18] <valorie> that looks like you already have compositing running, kavaco
[04:18] <valorie> sorry, I'm going to go watch a movie now
[04:18] <valorie> just keep following the tut step by step
[04:19] <kavaco>  valorie: thanks
[04:19] <kavaco> i sleep now
[04:19] <kavaco> on here, brazil, its a 01:19am
[04:19] <kavaco> :D
[04:19] <kavaco> valorie: thank you very mutch
[04:20] <valorie> yw
[04:21] <keyonce04> hello
[08:21] <Name141> How long does 12.04 have?
[08:22] <Name141> And is there a way to stop the 14.04 reminder?
[08:57] <valorie> Name141: reminder?
[08:58] <valorie> !eol
[09:00] <valorie> looks like 12.04.5 will be supported until April 2017
[09:00] <valorie> and if you mean reminders to update, select "LTS" in muon
[09:03] <valorie> Settings > Configure Software sources > Updates
[09:04] <valorie> also you can configure it to never notify you at all
[09:36] <denysonique> How can I make Firefox not look like Sh*t under KDE?
[11:27] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:40] <buriedalive> BluesKaj evening)
[11:55] <BluesKaj> 'evening buriedalive :)
[12:11] <buriedalive> BluesKaj tu) u from? just curious
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Canada...Ontario
[12:13] <buriedalive> oh Canada, my association rock band Rush first)
[12:15] <buriedalive> Russia...Siberia
[12:32] <lince> hola
[12:33] <buriedalive> lince hi there
[12:41] <dinosaur_> where are quassel configuration files?
[12:44] <dinosaur_> .config
[13:47] <User__> Hello
[13:52] <ForgeAus> KDE5? wow ... whats everyone think of it so far?
[13:52] <ForgeAus> looks less klunky than kde4 initially did
[13:55] <Konwhald> still sticking with KDE4. I don't like the Plasma 5 theme, but it looks like there is a lot of improvements
[13:56] <Konwhald> i hope there are some improvements for tablets. KDE at the moment on tablet is good but has some horrible edges
[14:03] <ForgeAus> was that kde-active?
[14:21] <amichair> Hi, is there a mysql-server-5.5 debug symbols package available for kubuntu 14.10?
[14:22] <yofel> amichair: there is a mysql-server-5.5-dbgsym, which is in the ddebs repo https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Debug_Symbol_Packages
[14:25] <amichair> yofel: thanks
[14:28] <Konwhald> Hi there, i have a lot of issues with KDE here, on 14.04
[14:29] <Konwhald> i have plain knotify grey notifications, no plasma notifications
[14:29] <Konwhald> does someone have an idea how to fix that ? It's really annoying
[14:45] <BluesKaj> Konwhald, could be a kde-workspace issue
[15:07] <dinosaur_> where do I best report a bug in Kubuntu (specifically in quassel)?
[15:09] <BluesKaj_> dinosaur_, https://bugs.kde.org/
[15:09] <dinosaur_> It was already reported, but seems like nothings has been improved
[15:10] <dinosaur_> BluesKaj_: seems like it has nothing to do with KDE
[15:10] <BluesKaj_> dinosaur_, in quassell help/Report Bug ,will set it up for you
[15:13] <dinosaur_> I'm not sure if I should report it if it already has been done. http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/issues/1275.
[15:14] <BluesKaj_> dinosaur_, then just choose the "it happens to me" option on the page
[15:16] <BluesKaj_> or not if there's no such option
[15:18] <dinosaur_> OK, I'll leave it for now. I could probably fix it on my own if I really wanted. They could fix it too, but I don't want to send them my database. So no.
[15:18] <dinosaur_> Will Linux be the proper choice for backuping Windows?
[15:22] <dinosaur_> Heh, just found a second bug in quassel
[15:35] <BluesKaj_> dinosaur_, no, use windows.old folder on a backup ntfs partition, and you can do that in windows
[15:38] <dinosaur_> BluesKaj_: I want to store it on a CD.
[15:38] <dinosaur_> brb
[15:47] <blade_> how about resource usage in kubuntu vs makaro kde
[15:48] <blade_> is kubuntu light or how vailla it is ? because in manjaro its not kde anymore
[15:50] <blade_> ubuntu unity is very lagging
[15:50] <BluesKaj_> blade_, dunno , never tried manjaro
[15:50] <blade_> is kubuntu  snappy
[15:50] <BluesKaj_> bla depends o lot on your HW
[15:50] <BluesKaj_> blade_,
[15:51] <blade_> its a old system
[15:51] <BluesKaj_> how old?
[15:51] <blade_> centrino 2 cpu 3gb ram 128 mb graphics
[15:51] <blade_> unity runs fine but getts slow after like using it for 20 mins
[15:51] <blade_> firefox gets slow hangs a bit
[15:52] <blade_> i have tried many distro but not able to settle
[15:52] <BluesKaj_> kuuntu ruan nicely here with those specs , even quicker now with 6G ram
[15:53] <blade_> but its the apps
[15:53] <blade_> i want to use gtk apps
[15:53] <blade_> would they rune fine, ugly ?
[15:55] <yofel> if you mean from a theme side they'll look about the same as any other application (as long as you stick to oxygen) as they'll use oxygen-gtk(3)
[15:56] <johnn> is it true that plasma5 tech preview iso image doesnt boot into live desktop?
[15:57] <johnn> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/kubuntu-utopic-plasma5.html
[16:02] <blade_> i hate kde default menu
[16:02] <blade_> is there any way i can replace it with anything
[16:02] <BluesKaj_> johnn, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/daily-live/pending/
[16:03] <BluesKaj_> blade_, switch to classic menu by right clicking on the kmenu and choosing it
[16:03] <yofel> blade_: there is the traditional launcher with a menu that you could add. And there's homerun which is more unity like
[16:07] <blade_> im more familair with a bar at top
[16:07] <blade_> can i change the way kde looks
[16:07] <blade_> so i can change menu can i make it more like xfce
[16:08] <yofel> you can move the panel wherever you want
[16:09] <yofel> and xfce is a simple menu if I remember correctly? Then the classic menu is likely what you want
[16:09] <blade_> homerun looks awesome
[16:09] <blade_> what are the prefered apps in kde world
[16:10] <blade_> like im used to gnome apps
[16:10] <blade_> what are ur preffered apps
[16:13] <BluesKaj_> depends on the usage..think there's a page that shows kde and gtk equivalents
[16:17] <johnn> thanks blueskaj does this image boots properly?
[16:18] <BluesKaj_> johnn, yes, it did when i tried it a month ago
[16:56] <tupacfan> hi guys
[16:56] <tupacfan> anyone wanna help me backup my mp3s?
[16:57] <tupacfan> hi
[16:57] <tupacfan> gmopkub you wanna backup my mp3s?
[16:58] <tupacfan> hi
[17:57] <cRzy> good day
[17:57] <cRzy> any one here
[17:58] <cRzy> i have a question
[17:59] <soee__> ask
[18:00] <cRzy> echo -e "\e[8;30;60t"
[18:00] <cRzy> in konsole
[18:00] <cRzy> dsent works
[18:00] <cRzy> any work around ?
[18:04] <cRzy> ?
[18:06] <tsimpson> what do you expect that command to do?
[18:06] <cRzy> to resize konsole window
[18:06] <cRzy> it works greate with gnome-terminal
[18:06] <cRzy> i dev in perl and i resize alot of terminal windows, but im new to kde
[18:06] <cRzy> and i have this problem with konsole
[18:07] <cRzy> i need to resize the window from within the script
[18:07] <cRzy> foreach my $val (sort keys %ENV) {
[18:07] <cRzy>
[18:07] <cRzy> 	if ($val eq "XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP" && $ENV{$val} eq "KDE" ) {
[18:07] <cRzy> 		#code
[18:07] <cRzy> 	}
[18:07] <cRzy> 	else {
[18:07] <unopaste> cRzy you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:08] <cRzy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9046382/
[18:08] <cRzy> ^
[18:08] <cRzy> see
[18:13] <cRzy> no ?
[18:15] <tsimpson> the command does work, but it won't resize the window (just the space available for the terminal)
[18:15] <cRzy> yes i have understood that
[18:15] <cRzy> is ther a way to achive the same without opening a new window ?
[18:18] <tsimpson> you can resize the window via DBus, but you'll have to convert the size into pixels
[18:18] <tsimpson> I don't know of a way to do it via xterm escape sequences
[18:24] <cRzy> thanks
[18:24] <cRzy> :*
[19:54] <Guest9019> witam
[19:56] <arek__> witam
[20:05] <Roey> Hello everyone.  I have a Crucial/Micron m500.  Found a web page[1] mentioning that it is on a Linux kernel blacklist: http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Crucial-SSDs/M500-M5x0-QUEUED-TRIM-data-corruption-alert-mostly-for-Linux/td-p/151028/page/4  <-- does my 3.13 kernel support TRIM for this Crucial/Micron M500 device?
[20:36] <Roey> hi, how can I tell if my system is using TRIM?  I tried "grep -i trim /boot/config-*", and the command returned no output.
[20:40] <skinux> What is the Bluetooth management application?
[20:41] <soee__> bluedevil ?
[21:19] <mparillo> On Apper, I can search for and add kteatime, kblocks, and other small packages. Muon Discover does not have them, but has 'big' packages such as rekonq, so the little packages, I have to add with apt. Is that a packaging difference between Kubuntu and Fedora/OpenSUSE, or Apper versus Muon Discover, or RPMs/yum versus DEBs/apt?
[22:04] <kingjere> If I add a new service menu entry in /usr/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus do I have to do something to make it take effect?
[22:13] <kingjere> Ok, now it shows up in the menu, but it doesn't work?Exec=/bin/sh -c ";tiff2pdf -z -p letter -o `date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M-%S`.pdf %f"
[22:16] <kingjere> It seems that my `date blahblah` command makes it fail. I wonder why.
[22:59] <toothe> what's the difference between LTS and non-LTS?
[22:59] <toothe> from an end-users perspective?
[23:45] <skinux> Anyone know of a good .epub reader application?
[23:46] <bprompt> skinux:     just to read? or to make ?
[23:46] <skinux> Just to read
[23:47] <bprompt> skinux:    hmm..... there's fbreader.... and there's also a firefox addon for it   https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/epubreader/
[23:49] <skinux> Also, what are the most official sources for finding out info such as current rankings/usages of various softwares, usages of programming languages on Linux, things trending on Linux, etc?
[23:51] <skinux> Well, I installed the Firefox extension, but I can't figure out how to open an ePub document that is saved to my computer.
[23:52] <skinux> Nevermind. I can open it by browsing to the file path in browser (using Firefox as a File Browser)


[13:44] <acheronuk> cjwatson: I could be wrong, but at a glance a lot of build jobs look stalled?
[14:26] <cjwatson> acheronuk: thanks, should be recovering now


[04:37] <gnomefreak> are there any iossues i need to know about?
[06:43] <Stanley00> gnomefreak: you there? I have some issue with the theme, in the top bar, some are black, some are white
[06:47] <gnomefreak> Stanley00: im kind of here but what you are descibing im not sure i know the answer
[06:48] <gnomefreak> ok im out need to get crap done before 4am
[06:48] <Stanley00> gnomefreak: yeah, I can come over that by re select the theme in Appearance...
[07:24] <red_> Morning. Question can I downgrade from Ubuntu 12 to smaller or do i need to reinstall?
[07:25] <wilee-nilee> you will have to reinstall
[07:26] <red_> ok thanks wilee is there ny way to make it smaller to run on my vista laptop quicker?
[07:28] <wilee-nilee> red_, smaller would not make it run faster, what is the chip speed and your ram amount?
[07:28] <red_> sorry not able to tell u all i know this laptop was vista buisness
[07:28] <wilee-nilee> a lighter desktop might help like lubuntu
[07:29] <red_> put ubuntu on the other day from a mag
[07:29] <red_> ok will check out lubuntu
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> lubuntu rocks
[07:29] <wilee-nilee> red_, you might try installing the lubuntu desktop before you reinstall and see if it helps
[07:30] <red_> ok how do i do that can it be done sudo?
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> red_: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[07:30] <red_> sorry i not know much about pc
[07:30] <wilee-nilee> that it
[07:31] <wilee-nilee> thats*
[07:31] <red_> thank you
[07:32] <wilee-nilee> red_, don't tell anyone but ActionParsnip's help is about the best you can get here. ;)
[07:32] <red_> will go do it now
[07:32] <red_> ok
[07:32] <red_> i trust i think
[07:33] <red_> how do i copy from this screen?
[07:33] <wilee-nilee> if you highligt it just paste it to the terminal no save needed
[07:33] <wilee-nilee> or copy needed
[07:34] <wilee-nilee> at least in my client xchat
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> red_: just trype it, it's not a hard command
[07:35] <red_> o well it wont do it just do it old way
[07:36] <red_> just unpacking
[07:42] <red_> still unpacking......
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> you could've installed just lxde but the lubuntu desktop installs a theme and makes it a little nicer
[07:45] <red_> ok i like  nice!
[07:46] <red_> tbh just use chrome
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> SR1161494
[07:48] <red_> so looks like all done shall i reboot now
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> red_: if you want, not really necessary
[07:49] <red_> ok
[07:49] <red_> how will it take affect?
[10:25] <dr_willis> still havent fully figured out the web apps stuff. ;) it work with firefox only or chromium only?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> i've used it in chrome/ium
[12:15] <BluesKaj> HI all
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[12:16] <BluesKaj> hi ActionParsnip
[12:23] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, had a startup freeze this morning , after login ... so I used the recovery kernel which installed a couple of libs , something liborc if I recall
[12:24] <BluesKaj> not org , but orc
[12:24] <BluesKaj> but whatever it was seems fixed now
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: weird
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: not seen anything myself but I've been about 20 hours since I used Quantal last
[12:27] <BluesKaj> yeah ,  ActionParsnip , at first I thought my grapphics card was cooked  ..it was such a strange freeze , small wavy lines across part of the screen. Had to do a hard reboot.
[13:20] <edgy> Hi, I cannot do a dist-upgrade because ksirk which belongs to kdegames is cannot be installed, can some please confirm?
[13:21] <penguin42> edgy: I've just installed ksirk here
[13:21] <edgy> penguin42: then let me paste the output I am getting
[13:24] <penguin42> sure pastebin it if it's more than a line or 2
[13:24] <edgy> penguin42: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1130650/
[13:26] <edgy> penguin42: maybe if you installed kdegames you would see the problem
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> edgy: could remove the games, update then reinstall the games
[13:26] <edgy> ActionParsnip: ok, let me try
[13:32] <penguin42> edgy: Hmm you seem to have a corrupt archive
[13:32] <penguin42> edgy: Delete the ksirk archive from /var/cache/apt/archives and try again - and it's worth running a memory test if you hit any more like that
[13:33] <edgy> penguin42: I am getting lots of chromium segfaults, too, so if you also don't get those, then you are right may be I need to check the memory
[13:33] <edgy> penguin42: do you?
[13:33] <penguin42> edgy: right, don't do an upgrade with dodgy memory
[13:33] <penguin42> edgy: I get an occasional one but it's rare
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> edgy: I'd check it
[13:34] <penguin42> edgy: Give it a few hours in memtest86
[13:34] <edgy> penguin42: the one in the boot menu?
[13:35] <penguin42> yeh
[13:35] <edgy> ok will do, thanks  all
[13:39] <Stanley00> well, I have snall pronlem with fresh install Quantal. In the top bar, I have some white background menus (like sound, sesstion) and others have black background :( What can I do for this issue?
[13:46] <Stanley00> well, looks like I am the only one get this problem, so I just wait for new update then :D
[13:47] <ebischoff> hello people... installed quantal on 2 machines already and it is globally very good. I'm getting no sound on one of the machines (while it worked fine under precise), if someone is interested by this problem I'm here to help debugging it.
[13:48] <penguin42> ebischoff: I'm running kubuntu, so I can't guide you through the gui, but I've got a few things you could try
[13:48] <ebischoff> penguin42: does something else than kubuntu exist?
[13:48] <penguin42> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems  is one source of things to check
[13:48] <ebischoff> :-)
[13:48] <penguin42> ebischoff: Oh well that's fine then :-)
[13:49] <penguin42> ebischoff: So you on Kubuntu then?
[13:49] <ebischoff> switching to private conversation to avoid flooding this chanel, if you like
[13:49] <penguin42> no
[13:50] <ebischoff> ok
[13:50] <penguin42> it's fine to stay on this channel - it's not busy and anyway other people might find the solution to their problem when they look at the log
[13:50] <ebischoff> of course we would have reported the solution here, but as you wish
[13:50] <penguin42> ebischoff: so, you go to system settings-Xmultimedia-Xand select phonon - and then click Audio Hardware setup
[13:50] <penguin42> oops read a > for each X
[13:51] <ebischoff> so this is a mac under kubuntu, just switched it from precise to quantal a few hours ago
[13:51] <penguin42> does it show the correct sound card in the 'Hardware' there?
[13:51] <ebischoff> I'm there
[13:52] <ebischoff> it shows a whole list in the scroll button. Default value is "Integrated audio", I don't know whether it's correct or not
[13:52] <ebischoff> su
[13:52] <ebischoff> oops
[13:52] <penguin42> Password:
[13:52] <ebischoff> lol
[13:53] <penguin42> ebischoff: So for me I see a section labelled 'Hardware' and the top entry is 'Sound card' and I have a choice between Built-in Audio and the HDMI on my Radeon -  what are your choices?
[13:53] <ebischoff> it is on "Built-in audio"
[13:54] <ebischoff> and there is quite a wide range of choices
[13:54] <penguin42> ok, probably right - unless you're using HDMI
[13:54] <penguin42> and then the 'profile' below that - I've got Analogue stereo duplex ?
[13:54] <ebischoff> there's no hdmi, this is a mac so the screen is part of the uc
[13:54] <penguin42> ok
[13:54] <ebischoff> Analogue stereo duplex as well
[13:55] <ebischoff> going through gstreamer, you too ?
[13:55] <penguin42> and then below that Device Configuration, I've got Sound Device: Playback (Built-in audio analogue stereo) and connector Analogue output
[13:55] <penguin42> yeh I also have gstreamer
[13:56] <penguin42> so I assume given the fact you're here, neither of the speaker tests work?
[13:56] <ebischoff> neither of them
[13:56] <penguin42> hmm ok
[13:56] <ebischoff> I have one message in dmesg, don't know if it's relevant
[13:57] <penguin42> what does it say?
[13:58] <ebischoff2> it says:
[13:58] <ebischoff2> [   19.537725] hda_codec: ALC889A: SKU not ready 0x400000f0
[13:59] <penguin42> huh, that sounds relavent, never seen one of those
[13:59] <ebischoff> neither have I
[13:59] <penguin42> ok, can you pastebin the output of the amixer command?
[13:59] <ebischoff2> sure
[14:01] <ebischoff2> http://pastebin.com/T3qmL1jD
[14:04] <penguin42> ebischoff2: Hmm that looks good, assuming anything else on that debug page I linked earlier doesn't work I think you'll have to file a bug against it - you could try booting the older kernel and see if that works
[14:04] <ebischoff> hmmm yes i just removed the old kernel (bad idea)
[14:05] <ebischoff> my instict tells me it has something to do with the new nvidia drivers
[14:05] <ebischoff> i could also try and go backwards
[14:06] <penguin42> unlikely
[14:06] <penguin42> while the nvidia drivers cause pain and damnation, I'm not aware of them causing sound pain and damnation
[14:07] <ebischoff> lol
[14:07] <ebischoff> I found some posts of people fixing sound by setting them up
[14:08] <ebischoff> like this one : http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2012/04/28/how-to-fix-nvidia-hdmi-audio-in-ubuntu-12-04/ (for precise, and for hdmi)
[14:10] <ebischoff2> i am also using  "options snd-hda-intel model=imac91"   in the modprobe configuration, if that rings any bell
[14:14] <penguin42> right but that link was an hdmi one, and I can see how hdmi audio would be connected to the nvidia driver
[14:14] <ebischoff> correct
[14:14] <penguin42> ebischoff2: Why don't you try taking the model= off - maybe that's changed?
[14:15] <ebischoff> will do. doing another test right now, if it fails it will be the next attempt
[14:15] <penguin42> worth seeing if you get the same dmesg
[14:15] <ebischoff> ah, that too, yes
[14:24] <ebischoff> does not fix the problem, does not remove the dmesg
[14:25] <penguin42> ebischoff: I can see some comments on the web about how that the error is not necessarily bad
[14:26] <ebischoff> ok (link?)
[14:26] <penguin42> ebischoff: Shrug - I'm out of ideas; I suggest following the stuff in that debugging procedure, and report a bug - then try an older kernel is my only other bet
[14:27] <ebischoff> ok
[14:27] <ebischoff> thanks for the dialog, anyway
[14:27] <penguin42> no prob
[15:25] <ebischoff> penguin42: with the 3.2.0 kernel, I get the sound again
[15:27] <ebischoff> (and the SKU message is there as well)
[15:29] <penguin42> ebischoff: OK, then best report the bug and mark it as a regression
[15:31] <ebischoff> what is the best procedure to do that?
[15:32] <ebischoff> (I would go to launchpad and file a bug, but i'm sure itr would lack all interesting debugging operation)
[15:32] <penguin42> probably the easiest thing is to boot with the broken kernel and then run    ubuntu-bug audio
[15:33] <ebischoff> audio ? even if we know the bug is in the kernel ?
[15:33] <penguin42> that'll file it on launchpad, add a comment saying it works with the 3.2.0 kernel
[15:33] <ebischoff> (rebooting on the broken kernel)
[15:33] <penguin42> ebischoff: Yeh but it's the audio part of the kernel
[15:33] <ebischoff> ok, understood
[15:36] <penguin42> the audio guys are a different type of mad :-)
[15:37] <Daekdroom> I laughed when I read that out of context ^
[15:37] <ebischoff> oh, i can even remember an article called "linux sound madness"
[15:38] <ebischoff> (or was it "insanity" ?)
[15:38] <LLStarks> anyone running gnome3?
[15:39] <LLStarks> my shortcuts died after latest updates
[15:41] <ebischoff> penguin42: should ubuntu-bug be run as root? it seems frozen
[15:42] <penguin42> ebischoff: Hmm it shoudln't freeze  - I don't think I normally run as root, but it should open a webpage for you
[15:42] <ebischoff> it did not
[15:43] <penguin42> ebischoff: Well as per the standard practice; if you ran it as root and it hung, try running it not as root - or the alternative :-)
[15:44] <ebischoff> :-)
[15:46] <ebischoff> ok, it's a bug in ubuntu-bug, it happens when i chose the correct answer in the peripherial list
[15:46] <penguin42> oh great, then you'd better file a bug....
[15:47] <Daekdroom> ubuntu-bug apport ?
[15:47] <ebischoff> ubuntu-bug audio
[15:47] <ebischoff> oh no, again
[15:47] <penguin42> yeh, use ubuntu-bug apport to report the bug in ubuntu-bug audio :-)
[15:48] <ebischoff> seems to happen evey time it needs to display a YesNo question
[15:48] <ebischoff> the bug is in apport-kde
[15:48] <penguin42> ebischoff: OK, try doing it in a terminal but before you run it do unset DISPLAY
[15:48] <penguin42> (in the same terminal
[15:49] <ebischoff> doing that...
[16:03] <Guest34609> hi
[16:03] <Guest34609> does anyone else have the same issue with me where the graphics has defaulted to VESA: G96 Board - 06010001
[16:04] <Guest34609> have to boot into ubuntu2D only as there is no 3d support
[16:04] <Guest34609> in ubuntu 12.10 aplha 3
[16:06] <penguin42> G96? What's that?
[16:06] <penguin42> motherboard or video card?
[16:06] <Shane_>  nvidia graphics care
[16:06] <Shane_> card
[16:06] <Shane_> before it was displayed as Geforce 9600M GT
[16:07] <penguin42> ok, have you installed the 'additional' driver for that?
[16:07] <Shane_> now i have no 3d support and x.org has defaulted to VESA
[16:07] <ebischoff> penguin42: filed as bug 1033233
[16:07] <Shane_> additional driver was installd yes.  but now I see there is no prop drivers displayed
[16:07] <penguin42> hmm, I'm not an Nvidia user so I'm not too sure
[16:08] <pspeter3> Hi, I've been trying to install ubuntu 12.10 alpha on my Asus UX32VD because I've heard the new kernel supports the hardware better. Unfortunately, after saying it successfully installs, there is no operating system. It seems like I also have an incomplete OS on both drives
[16:08] <Shane_> did an update just 2 days ago and the nvidia drivers are no more
[16:08] <pspeter3> my computer can't work right now so any help would be appreciated
[16:08] <penguin42> Shane_: Probably bes tto wait for someone who knows the nvidia stuff
[16:09]  * penguin42 pats his Radeon
[16:09] <Shane_> thanks penguin
[16:09] <Shane_> hehe
[16:09] <Shane_> when the ubuntu 2d support is removed from 12.10 im stuffed if this bug remains
[16:10] <Shane_> whats the issue pspeter3?
[16:11]  * penguin42 hasn't seen anything about 2d support being removed
[16:11] <penguin42> ebischoff: I've set the status/importance and tags for you
[16:12] <pspeter3> Shane_: For some reason it says during the install process that it can
[16:12] <pspeter3> t read the physical sector assuming 512
[16:12] <penguin42> pspeter3: Does it say whether that's the physical sector on your hard drive or your installation medium?
[16:13] <Shane_> seems that there is an issue with your harddrive. have you tried reformating it first
[16:13] <Shane_> using livecd?
[16:13] <ebischoff> thanks penguin
[16:14] <pspeter3> Shane_: I think it is complaining about my USB drive
[16:30] <cielak> hello everyone
[16:30] <penguin42> hi
[16:30] <cielak> I have a problem upgrading from precise to quantal
[16:30] <penguin42> what happens?
[16:31] <cielak> neither   update-manager -d    nor   do-release-upgrade -d   is aware of quantal
[16:31] <penguin42> ah that's ok
[16:31] <cielak> how should I upgrade then?
[16:32] <penguin42> cielak: Go into the settings on update-manager - there is an option only to show long-term-support verisons and that's probably on
[16:32]  * penguin42 doesn't have a gnome version in front of him at the moment to find the exact name
[16:32] <cielak> penguin42: yay, that was it!
[16:33] <penguin42> cielak: Good! It's there for people who want to stick with LTS and keep it that way
[16:33] <cielak> I wonder why I had it on LTS only... anyway, it works now, great thanks!
[16:33] <penguin42> I think LTS defaults to it, so a fresh precise install puts it that way
[16:33] <cielak> my thoughts precisely :)
[16:33] <penguin42> indeed
[16:34] <penguin42> happy quantaling
[16:34] <cielak> thanks!
[16:45] <Shane_> anyone using an NVIDIA card with 12.10 and have it working in Unity 3D
[17:25] <edgy> penguin42: you are absolutely right, I ran memtest and lots of errors
[17:26] <edgy> penguin42: but I want to know which memory slot has the problem so I can replace it, any hint?
[17:32] <penguin42> edgy: I think there is some diag in the memtest output - it's a bit tricky though to figure it out from software; the best bet is to take halfyour memory out and then rememtest
[17:33] <edgy> penguin42: I haven't open a laptop before, would this void the warranty?
[17:33] <penguin42> edgy: Hey if it's still got a warranty give it the vendor back and tell them to fix it
[17:34] <edgy> penguin42: yes, I will do, but I need the laptop so I want to them to only take the defected ram and give it to me while they order the memory
[17:35] <penguin42> edgy: I don't suppose you have a picture of the memtest output do you?
[17:35] <edgy> penguin42: yes, I have it
[18:08] <edgy> penguin42: sorry I was disconnected and had to reboot, it's really not stable now.
[18:08] <edgy> penguin42: http://imagebin.org/223400
[18:10] <penguin42> edgy: OK, so there seem to be lots of errors and that's just a few - but all in the same byte position; of course the rest have scrolled off
[18:11] <penguin42> edgy: If it's still in warranty I'd phone them up or email them a copy of that picture and ask them what to do, if you're lucky they'll have spare RAM in
[18:12] <edgy> penguin42: no one here understands linux programs, I tried this before and they have thier windows tools which they understand
[18:13] <edgy> penguin42: but I will try to google more, there should be away via software so I can tell which bank is defected, no?
[18:13] <penguin42> I'm not sure - it's not easy
[18:15] <edgy> penguin42: ok, thanks, you have done me a great favor
[18:21] <budda> exit
[21:19] <pspeter3> is this a good guide on how to mount a second hard drive to my system http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Adding_a_New_Disk_Drive_to_an_Ubuntu_11.04_System
[21:21] <pspeter3> I'm using ubuntu 12.10 and just want to make sure the instructions are still valid
[21:22] <MrChrisDruif> pspeter3; For support of 12.04 (current release) please use #ubuntu (this channel is for the development version currently 12.10 Quantal Quetzal)
[21:22] <MrChrisDruif> Ah...
[21:25] <MrChrisDruif> pspeter3; I just checked the link and it contains all kinds of terminal commands. So I think these would work on ANY linux distro, not only Ubuntu
[21:25] <pspeter3> MrChrisDruif: I thought that would be true. I just wanted to make sure that would be mountable and not mess with grub
[21:26]  * MrChrisDruif isn't 100% sure, but about 99%
[21:27] <pspeter3> sounds good
[21:36] <pspeter3> MrChrisDruif: Do I have to chmod the drive to give me permissions to use it?
[21:37] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know...I'd suggest following the instructions
[21:40] <shane_> anyone else having issues with nvidia-current ?
[21:41] <AdolfHittler> !ops
[21:42] <shane_> hey guys anyone having the same issue as me with the nvidia-current
[21:43] <shane_> The following packages have unmet dependencies.  nvidia-current : Depends: xorg-video-abi-12
[21:43] <shane_> any idea how I can fix it for the short term
[21:44] <shane_> I have looked in the apt cache but I cant roll back to a pevious nvidia driver deb
[21:44] <IdleOne> login to unity2d and wait for the packages to get updated
[21:44] <shane_> Oh beleive me I am in unity2d and its horrible
[21:45] <IdleOne> shane_: better than nothing for now.
[21:45] <shane_> have some crazy screen res of 1280x720, im so used to 1920x1080
[21:45] <shane_> yeah thats true, any ideas when it will be built?
[21:46] <IdleOne> I'm guessing ASAP
[21:46] <shane_> is there a ppa I can follow.
[21:46] <IdleOne> no idea
[21:46] <shane_> hehe yeah lets hope so, thanks for the info
[21:48] <shane_> I hear there is rumour of a new theme for 12.10 is this true, as I knew from looking at Marks website he says that brown is out
[21:49] <shane_> hey pspeter did it work?
[21:51] <shane_> is your Asus all up and working now pspeter?
[21:52] <shane_> dang he left not sign in :)
[23:07] <edgy> Hi, I remember something like /proc/.../bootparam that would tell you the boot parameters but I couldn't find it, any hint?


[05:54] <svente> Hi. After systemstart I find one zita-a2j and one zita-j2 a process plus one zombified zita Instances. I get zita-a2j and zita-j2a zombies more when stopping jack via ubuntu-studio-controls. After restart I get two new processes. When stopping again, the count of zombies raises by two. Any ideas what to do?
[12:17] <rgh> > Any ideas what to do?
[12:18] <rgh> How about staying longer than 15 minutes in irc to get an answer
[12:18] <rgh> 😉
[14:21] <john122> :) to be fair sometimes people get cut off. I've dipped in and out of IRC since the 90s, but been using it a lot more recently and have had so many problems with disconnections. Last night I setup ZNC after thinking "There must be a way to..." and sure enough there is ;) so much better already
[14:23] <kveremitz> :) this is the modern answer.. since in days of the 90s you really needed something when your phone line/modem dropped the call .. not a problem we have so frequently with always-on internet now :D
[14:24] <kveremitz> even cellular has an 'idle' connection
[16:35] <kilde> PDF printing only prints in one corner of my pages. How can I fix this?
[17:15] <Eickmeyer> kilde: That's not an Ubuntu Studio-specific issue. Try asking in #kubuntu since they're in charge of the Desktop Environment in 20.10+. If you're using 20.04, try asking in #xubuntu.
[17:16] <Eickmeyer> It could also be your printer/drivers don't work properly in Linux in general, so keep in mind that not all hardware is guaranteed to work.
[17:31] <krznv> hi, I have a question regarding zynaddsubfx on ubuntu studio... in a fresh install the synth interface is terribly outdated, will this be fixed with the update or do I need to install any missing dependancies?
[18:19] <Eickmeyer> krznv: That's because the upstream developer made the sources impossible to package for Debian and Ubuntu. Basically, the new interface is in an entirely different source from the base source, and Debian packages require a single source tarball without any additions.
[18:20] <Eickmeyer> krznv: So, unless the upstream developer incorporates it into the same source, what you're asking is impossible.
[18:31] <krznv> thank you for the clarification