[09:38] <h6w> My problem isn't so much that as the fact that it gets allocated eth2.  That seems weird to me.
[09:38] <micahcowan> carthik, I should think so.
[09:38] <erryko> oh.... ok but, i have to reinstall it now
[09:38] <Bonez> dmitriy: yes try this, that will less-complicate things and you may have more success. stip it down to bare minimum and work forward from there. best way to solve computer troubles :)
[09:38] <Bonez> Four23619: you there
[09:38] <erryko> can you write this in pm, so that i will read after?
[09:38] <Pyromaniak> Is there a better multi IM client then gaim? I'm not really liking it
[09:38] <yacek19> I have annoying problem with kde, every time I start kde, kpersonalizer shows up. Why is that?
[09:38] <Four23619> Bonez: yup
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: now, I'm going to write a long line, just copy it and paste it in a terminal, okay?
[09:38] <yossman> nu have you done a RAM test on that machine
[09:38] <yossman> lately
[09:38] <dmitriy> Bonez -- haha, thanx...ill let you know somehow if it worked...cya
[09:38] <acojlo> erryko, then go over first line and select 'E' - then you can edit boot line. Delete just words 'quit' and 'usplash', press enter and press 'B'
[09:39] <yossman> memtest is one of the grub boot options
[09:39] <nu> yossman: no, why?
[09:39] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: sure man
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: sudo apt-get install build-essential fontforge freeglut3-dev libc6-dev libexpat1-dev libfontconfig1-dev libfreetype6-dev libgcrypt11-dev libglib1.2-dev libglib2.0-dev libgnutls11-dev libgpg-error-dev libice-dev libieee1284-3-dev libjpeg62-dev libldap2-dev libltdl3-dev libmad0-dev libmng-dev libncurses5-dev libogg-dev libopencdk8-dev libpng12-dev libqt3-mt-dev libsm-dev libtasn1-2-dev libusb-dev libvorbis-dev libx11-dev lib
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> xcursor-dev libxext-dev libxft-dev libxi-dev libxml2-dev libxmu-dev libxrandr-dev libxrender-dev libxslt1-dev libxt-dev libxv-dev render-dev unixodbc-dev x-dev zlib1g-dev libcapi20-dev liblcms1-dev libcupsys2-dev libsane-dev libasound2-dev libarts1-dev libartsc0-dev libaudiofile-dev libesd0-dev libaudio-dev xlibs-dev libxxf86dga-dev libxxf86vm-dev libjack0.100.0-dev libicu34-dev libungif4-dev libssl-dev
[09:39] <yossman> because.. random freezing is sometimes the result of RAM problems
[09:39] <yossman> holy sh!t fyre
[09:39] <Pyromaniak> omg... why so many?
[09:39] <maffju> i installed lamp (following help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP) and it worked but apache won't automatically start in the boot process - is that intended and how do i fix it?
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: they are things wine needs :)
[09:39] <nu> yossman: im not having freezing problems
[09:39] <erryko> ok, thank you!!!!!
[09:39] <erryko> i'm going to try it right now
[09:39] <acojlo> erryko, sorry, delete 'quiet' and 'usplash'. after enter and 'b' you will see boot process with many messages and you will see where it does stop.
[09:39] <nu> yossman: as a matter of fact, im not having any problems at all. you must've confused me with someone
[09:40] <^richiefrich> !pastebin > fyrestrtr
[09:40] <`paul> preston: im just installing a timer-applet for gnome T_T
[09:40] <markedwards> man, why are the ubuntu servers so damn sketchy?
[09:40] <Flannel> maffju: er, do you not have an apache script in /etc/init.d/ ?
[09:40] <yossman> nu, yea with erryko, sorry ;)
[09:40] <nu> yossman: np
[09:40] <yossman> i think erryko should do a RAM test
[09:40] <azcazandco> can nayone help me solve a dependency issue with gimpshop please?  I have managed to create a deb file from the rpm using alien but it wont install
[09:40] <yossman> is what i meant to say heh
[09:40] <nu> nu
[09:40] <erryko> but.. ubuntu is the only distro that doesn't work on me
[09:41] <maffju> Flannel, i do have a "apache2" script in /etc/init.d/ but apache doesn't start
[09:41] <babo> does anyone have a sip number I can test my ekiga against ... ? ... pls ?
[09:41] <nu> someone talk to me real quick
[09:41] <nu> testing color theme
[09:41] <erryko> i tried lots of distros, and everyone works
[09:41] <yossman> nu ;)
[09:41] <acojlo> yossman, well he can not explain the problem with good debug informations, so let's do it first this :)
[09:41] <erryko> kororaa as well
[09:41] <nu> lol tank you
[09:41] <yossman> aco, sure
[09:41] <Flannel> maffju: does apache start when you run sudo /etc/init.d/apahce2 restart?
[09:41] <acojlo> erryko, after that you can try 'dmesg' to see what kernel says about problems
[09:41] <markedwards> packages.ubuntu.com, its like 50/50
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> maffju: try sudo update-rc.d apache2 defaults
[09:41] <acojlo> but come here and you will try
[09:42] <maffju> just a moment, i'll try
[09:42] <erryko> i have to write it in the kernel options?
[09:42] <ticki> i want to edit the ubuntu iso file, how can i add more folders to it so ic an use up the free space in the DVD?
[09:42] <ticki> any tool recommended?
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> ticki: if you mess with the iso image, the cd won't boot :)
[09:42] <acojlo> erryko, dmesg - NO, dmesg is standard
[09:42] <Flannel> ticki: theres a guide on the wiki as to how to roll your own ISOs
[09:42] <Lattyware> Hey, it's not really Ubuntu related, but I have a problem with UT2004 running under Ubuntu, I use dual moniters, and it spans accross both instead of sticking to one moniter.
[09:42] <ticki> fyrestrtr: i will just add anoyher forlder.
[09:43] <Lattyware> Anyone know of a solution?
[09:43] <ticki> Flannel: thanks,, i will check the wiki then
[09:43] <erryko> ok, i go
[09:43] <preston> `paul: i replied in pm
[09:43] <erryko> ^_^ thank you for the patience
[09:43] <`paul> preston: hmmm didnt receive anythn
[09:43] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: there is a single 'lib' that fails... delete it?
[09:43] <nu> nu: <3
[09:44] <`paul> preston: maybe lag could u pls resend
[09:44] <Flannel> preston, `paul, you need to be registered and identified to query on freenode
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: which one?
[09:44] <nu> night all
[09:44] <maffju> Flannel, no, apache does not start with /etc/init.d/apache2 :-(
[09:44] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: just says "lib"
[09:44] <`paul> T_T
[09:44] <maffju> fyrestrtr, it says "System startup links for /etc/init.d/apache2 already exist.", no change
[09:45] <Flannel> maffju: er, did you sudo? and append the 'restart' (or start) etc
[09:45] <ych> anyone know how i can play an mp3 file on a remote server - i mounted the server (its a windows server) and I can copy the files from it and play them locally, but i can't open them where they are
[09:45] <preston> `paul: I was having difficulties....just do this:   sudo aptitude install build-essential     (drop the 's' at the end) and then try to compile your program again
[09:45] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: is there a pastebin I could post the string you send into so you can see what I'm refering to?
[09:45] <erryko> oh... 1 thing... that strings that i have to write.. are the boot options?
[09:45] <Flannel> !paste
[09:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: its libxcursor-dev
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> there is a space where it shouldn't be
[09:46] <erryko> ah.. there is not usplash, only splash, is it ok?
[09:46] <ticki> Flannel: do you have the link to the article you mentioned.
[09:46] <ticki> i cannot find it.
[09:46] <RancidLM> how do i set my default compiling to gcc-4.0 im trying to install Parallels VM ?
[09:46] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: I hope you are right.. lol.. thats 114mb of dload
[09:46] <ticki> sorry.. i am not a lazy arse.. but i cannot find the article in question.
[09:46] <azcazandco> mcphail: are you about?
[09:46] <nalpha> how to mount smbfiles on server into my computer???
[09:46] <maffju> Flannel, i typed: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: lets hope :)
[09:47] <kintaro0e> hello guys.whats the difference between .bash_profile and .bashrc? i want to add a path on my $PATH for my account.any advice?
[09:47] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: bah.. slow dload... gonna take almost 3min to dload
[09:47] <|thunder> does anyone know the name of the advanced command line downloader? It like wget but better.
[09:48] <|thunder> i cant thhink of it for the life of me
[09:48] <Pyromaniak> nano?
[09:48] <Pyromaniak> erm.. nevermind
[09:48] <Pyromaniak> apt-get isn't advanced?
[09:48] <|thunder> nomego, like wget
[09:49] <|thunder> for downloading files
[09:49] <|thunder> with variables
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: while you are worried about wine, I'm building cocoon and lenya -- its a bigger pain that your wine problem :)
[09:49] <ticki> does anybody know an article explaining how to modify an iso image?
[09:49] <Pyromaniak> I can't beleive I've gotta dload 114mb to play a 6mb game...
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: no, you need to download 114 mb to build wine.
[09:50] <RancidLM> how do i set my default compiling to gcc-4.0 im trying to install Parallels VM ?
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: you need wine to play the game :)
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> RancidLM: did you already install build-essential
[09:50] <^richiefrich> ticki  what do u want... just mount it and del file or edit it then make a new iso
[09:50] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: yeah, but before I got "helped" from the wine chat here on freenode... it ran.. lol
[09:51] <`paul> "libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13) but 2.3.5-1ubuntu12 is installed." does this mean i have to upgrade my version of ubuntu first?
[09:51] <Pyromaniak> fyr ok... its all done...
[09:51] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: oops.. its done
[09:51] <lhds> now that i have installed a new kernel and setup all of my cards ... is there a way to backup the system and save it on cd?
[09:51] <ticki> ^richiefrich: how do i write the new image?
[09:51] <RancidLM> fyrestrtr: no i didn't :S is that a package?
[09:52] <^richiefrich> ticki   mkisofs
[09:52] <nalpha> what's should i use "mount or smbmount" to mount folder in my server to my computer???
[09:52] <hayden> how can i give write access to a samba share for anyone that connects to it?
[09:52] <ticki> thanks.
[09:52] <^richiefrich> ticki is is a live
[09:52] <^richiefrich> CD ?
[09:52] <RancidLM> fyrestrtr: i just check synaptic.. ya i have it..
[09:52] <MatthewV> nalpha, depends what kind of server it is...
[09:52] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: would I be better off using the wiki to get cedega installed? lol
[09:52] <^richiefrich> ticki   u makin a liveCD ?
[09:52] <ticki> ^richiefrich: it is the Draper DVD..
[09:53] <ticki> i want to use up the free space.
[09:53] <MatthewV> nalpha, for a samba server, i think you can just use mount and specify -t smbfs but I'm not certain
[09:53] <ticki> Do you think it will work?
[09:53] <^richiefrich> ticki  -->  mkisofs -J -r -netatalk -hfs -probe -map boot/map.hfs -part -no-desktop -hfs-volid MyGentooLiveCD -hfs-bless ./boot -o ../gentoo.iso
[09:53] <^richiefrich> thats how for gentoo
[09:53] <lhds> ubuntu + updates instaaled is how chu gb approx?
[09:53] <nalpha> mmm.... smb file server...
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> RancidLM: gcc -v -- it should tell you on the last line what version you have. Mine is gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)
[09:53] <nalpha> oke i'm try first.. thanx ku
[09:53] <josh_> hi, im trying to compile a kernel with patches for my mobo, and im getting this - * Linux Kernel Configuration
[09:53] <josh_> *
[09:53] <josh_> *
[09:53] <josh_> * Code maturity level options
[09:53] <josh_> *
[09:53] <josh_> Prompt for development and/or incomplete code/drivers (EXPERIMENTAL) [Y/n/?]  y
[09:54] <josh_> *
[09:54] <josh_> * General setup
[09:54] <josh_> *
[09:54] <josh_> Local version - append to kernel release (LOCALVERSION) []  (NEW)
[09:54] <^richiefrich> DUDE
[09:54] <ticki> lhds: was that for me?
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> !ops
[09:54] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[09:54] <MatthewV> josh, see !pastebin
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> ah nevermind, Hobb is here.
[09:54] <MatthewV> sry, josh_ see !pastebin
[09:54] <lhds> how much gb is ubuntu installed and updated?
[09:54] <Madpilot> josh_, do that again, and you'll be removed - use a pastebin!
[09:54] <Amaranth> !pastebin > josh_
[09:54] <Hobbsee> fyrestrtr: ?
[09:54] <Hobbsee> fyrestrtr: i saw nothing.
[09:55] <^richiefrich> ticki   http://www.metadistribution.org/blog/Blog/E4917C00-34F7-4F3D-B704-29AA2C80F318.html   <-- old howto
[09:55] <MatthewV> Hobbsee, you were 1 second too late to see it
[09:55] <tuxtux> ciao
[09:55] <Madpilot> lhds, about 2Gb installed
[09:55] <lhds> man got 6 gb used
[09:55] <lhds> brrr where did all the
[09:55] <lhds> ++came from !!!!
[09:56] <RancidLM> fyrestrtr: it says im using 3.4  but i do have 4.0 installed is thier a way to change it to compile this one app.. iv tried set CC=gcc-4.0 but for some reason dmesg look like its using 3.4
[09:56] <ticki> ^richiefrich: by the way.. any way to include the latest updates in the .iso ?
[09:56] <^richiefrich> ticki that help
[09:56] <azcazandco> can anyone help my try and recover my opengl settings after trying to install xgl
[09:56] <^richiefrich> ticki just add them,...
[09:56] <blind> So, I have a dual monitor display set up with xinerama, and my screen caps only show the primary screen.. the second screen (or where it would be) is all black.
[09:56] <markedwards> anyone here running on a Mac Intel machine?
[09:57] <ticki> ^richiefrich: how?
[09:57] <maffju> yeah, seems like i found a solution: in /etc/default/apache2 NO_START is set to 1 instead of 0
[09:57] <^richiefrich> ticki idk what u mean how
[09:57] <^richiefrich> ticki  u want to build a liveCd ?
[09:57] <micahcowan> josh_,  do you have a question? It wasn't clear, and  you should really use make xconfig or at least menuconfig...
[09:58] <MatthewV> blind, obviously something setup wrong, check to make sure the secondary screen has a device, display and a screen sectoin, and that serverlayout is correctly set up
[09:58] <ticki> ^richiefrich: i don't know why i need to build the liveCD.. i just want to Add a folder to the current .iso.. that's it.. another question was how to include the latest updates of ubuntu in the new .iso image.
[09:58] <^richiefrich> ticki idk how u expect to edit an already made iso
[09:58] <blind> MatthewV: "correctly set up" means nothing to me. I know it's working, I know it's got a device, display, and screen section, and i can see stuff on it and use it.
[09:59] <josh_> i was trying to compile a patched kernel,  and i got thru all of it, and then whats in the paste bin came up http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20183
[09:59] <^richiefrich> ticki see want to change the iso.. the adding the dir is easy.. editing the files and adding the new updates is differnet
[09:59] <ticki> ^richiefrich: io don't know either.. but maybe the boot information was saved somewhere and as long i don't remove anything but just add.. i hoped i didn't have to do any extra work like creating a live cd
[09:59] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: is there a next step? lol
[09:59] <RancidLM> fyrestrtr: any ideas?
[09:59] <ticki> ^richiefrich: adding the updates is difficult?
[09:59] <^richiefrich> ticki no what u want to do is  roll your own iso..  i mean liveCD
[10:00] <MatthewV> blind, I'm sorry, maybe I misunderstood your question
[10:00] <^richiefrich> ticki what are u gonna do..  mount the iso and chroot to it
[10:00] <ticki> even if i only add a new folder?
[10:00] <josh_> Any ideas?>
[10:00] <^richiefrich> ticki and apt-get install them ?>
[10:00] <blind> MatthewV: Print Screen. when I print screen, it shows my first screen, but my second shows up as all black.
[10:00] <^richiefrich> ticki no u cant do that man .. the iso is built ,, on the apps it has in ti
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: all that done?
[10:01] <^richiefrich> ticki i want to build your own
[10:01] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: Yes sir
[10:01] <^richiefrich> ticki  addind things is easy.. updating packages is different
[10:01] <micahcowan> josh_, that's the console pre-build configuration quiz...
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: okay good, now mkdir ~/wine-src
[10:01] <xsquared> !kernelcompiling
[10:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about kernelcompiling - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:02] <^richiefrich> ticki do u see my logic ?
[10:02] <ticki> ^richiefrich: ok.. let go with the adding things only then
[10:02] <MatthewV> blind, sorry, i misunderstood that, I thought you meant that your second screen didn't show anything at all.... i'm sorry, because i cant help you, but if you find a solution, could you let me know, cause I have %bexactly%b the same problem on my machine
[10:02] <micahcowan> josh_, did you get to a part where it says it made bzimage and stuck it somewhere?
[10:02] <^richiefrich> ticki add them and redo the iso
[10:02] <josh_> nope
[10:02] <blind> MatthewV: hahaha alright
[10:02] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: done
[10:02] <ticki> what shall i do..  mount the iso? and redo it like...?
[10:02] <^richiefrich> ticki  man mkisofs
[10:02] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: then, cd ~/wine-src and then tar -xvzf /wherever/you/downloaded/wine-0.<tab>
[10:02] <^richiefrich> ticki yes mount the iso
[10:02] <MatthewV> bloch, so yeah, _now_ i know exactly what you mean...
[10:02] <ticki> ^richiefrich: i am reading: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountIso?highlight=%28iso%29#head-edea4160e9bc2ddbf727f5a5740b6d91bd5f6d5f
[10:02] <MatthewV> sry blind ^^
[10:03] <nalpha> 21967: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[10:03] <nalpha> SMB connection failed
[10:03] <nalpha> what's this mean??
[10:03] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: do I need <tab>?
[10:03] <^richiefrich> ticki thats tells u howto mount it ..
[10:03] <jeandelfrigo> Hello all
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: <tab> means the tab key, you hit it for autocompletion :)
[10:03] <josh_> i edited the pastbin with all the code from when i put this into terminal " make-kpkg clean"
[10:03] <^richiefrich> mount -o loop myfile.iso /foo
[10:04] <ticki> ^richiefrich: sudo mkdir /media/cdimage; sudo mount -o rw,loop myfile.iso /media/cdimage;  and then add the folder.. and then us mkisofs and unmount it
[10:04] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: ahh.. right.. lol
[10:04] <Din1> hi
[10:04] <jeandelfrigo> Does anybody know if I can write an iso image to DVD instead of CD for an ubuntu install?
[10:04] <^richiefrich> ticki up try that..
[10:04] <Shinzetsu> how do I remove a folder using a terminal?
[10:04] <RancidLM> fyrestrtr: it says im using 3.4  but i do have 4.0 installed is thier a way to change it to compile this one app.. iv tried set CC=gcc-4.0 but for some reason dmesg look like its using 3.4
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> Shinzetsu: rm -r foldername
[10:04] <ticki> ^richiefrich: up?
[10:04] <^richiefrich> yup
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> RancidLM: I know there is, but I forgot the command :(
[10:05] <ticki> what do you men?
[10:05] <Shinzetsu> fyrestrtr: thanks, the -r is what I needed, what does it mean?
[10:05] <^richiefrich> mybe u can just umount it
[10:05] <ticki> *mean
[10:05] <jeandelfrigo> r = recursive
[10:05] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: not to sound completely stupid... but where is the desktop (for that command) ~/desktop/?
[10:05] <^richiefrich> ticki withthe write privliages ... mybe u can just umount /media/cdimage
[10:05] <^richiefrich> and it'll add what u needed
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: ~ = /home/yourusername so ~/Desktop is /home/yourusername/Desktop (its Desktop, not desktop)
[10:07] <ticki> ^richiefrich: that would be sweet...
[10:07] <^richiefrich> ticki try it
[10:07] <^richiefrich> then remount it
[10:07] <^richiefrich> see what u get.. if it took
[10:07] <ticki> and see if it s there
[10:07] <^richiefrich> yes
[10:07] <ticki> cool. thanks man.
[10:07] <jeandelfrigo> Does anybody know if I can write an iso image to DVD instead of CD for an ubuntu install?
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> jeandelfrigo: is it a dvd image or a cd image?
[10:08] <letters_9> is alien in dapper ? apparently need it to convert an rpm
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> letters_9: for what program?
[10:08] <ticki> jeandelfrigo: you just burn it. as long as it fits your will be fine
[10:08] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: ok... I'm lookin at the file.. but is says it isn't there
[10:08] <letters_9> erm drivers for a softmodem
[10:08] <ompaul> letters_9, alien is not suggested - it could cause a lot of problems
[10:08] <jeandelfrigo> ah good question it's actually the imge from the kubuntu.org site
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: lol
[10:08] <jeandelfrigo> i'll check
[10:08] <ompaul> !modem > letters_9
[10:08] <ompaul> letters_9, have a look at that link from ubotu
[10:08] <letters_9> i really need the internet to make ubuntu useful
[10:08] <micahcowan> josh_, are you making a stock kernel from tarball (say, from kernel.org), or are you building from the source package for ubuntu? I can only really support the latter.
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> Use nautilus, expand it (right click, extract to here) then just copy it to ~/wine-src
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> then come back to the terminal.
[10:09] <micahcowan> Have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:09] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: using ~/Desktop/win<tab> does nothing..
[10:09] <Pyromaniak> ok, thats easier
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: is that were its downloaded?
[10:09] <letters_9> is there a way to stop the dam computer beeping when I type something wrong in terminal :)
[10:09] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: isn't that my Desktop? as in... its an icon beside the irc window? lol
[10:10] <^richiefrich> ticki   if not .. then u must  mkisofs
[10:10] <jeandelfrigo> Yep fyrestrtr and they only talk about CD
[10:10] <ticki> ^richiefrich: ok.. working on it. i'll let you know how it goes
[10:10] <^richiefrich> ok
[10:11] <jeandelfrigo> problem is the file is 713MB and so I need a 800MB CD
[10:11] <letters_9> it said there was no make command, even sudo make, as I recall, hmm
[10:11] <jeandelfrigo> but the freaking stores in the area only sell 700MB cds
[10:11] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: crap... hit the close button... did you say something?
[10:11] <jeandelfrigo> I said :
[10:12] <jeandelfrigo> Yep fyrestrtr and they only talk about CD
[10:12] <jeandelfrigo> but the freaking stores in the area only sell 700MB cds
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> jeandelfrigo: that's what you need.
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> jeandelfrigo: for the ubuntu iso
[10:12] <jeandelfrigo> Iand I need a 800MB CD for the 713MB iso file
[10:13] <jeandelfrigo> yeah I kinda tought so problem is finding a cd like that my stock is all 700MB
[10:13] <Shinzetsu> I try to delete something and it says: "access to /home/davin/.local/share/Trash/files/<name of folder I want to delete>" denied
[10:13] <jeandelfrigo> I guess i'll need to go searh the surrounding stores again
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> jeandelfrigo: I have never had a problem burning it on a 700 mb iso.
[10:14] <Madpilot> jeandelfrigo, I don't think there is any such thing as an '800Mb' CD - 650 or 700 is standard
[10:14] <Shinzetsu> do I have to chown my trash bin?
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> Shinzetsu: sudo rm -r ~/.local/share/Trash/files/<name of folder>
[10:14] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: now what?
[10:14] <jeandelfrigo> my previous one i used xubuntu and that went great on the 700MB version
[10:14] <Madpilot> jeandelfrigo, which ISO do you have? They should all fit on a 700Mb CD...
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: done? you copied it to ~/wine-src ?
[10:14] <jeandelfrigo> but the file for Kubuntu is 713MB
[10:14] <Shinzetsu> fyrestartr: I try to delete it from /home/davin/Games\ but it says it cant access the trash bin
[10:15] <Madpilot> jeandelfrigo, really? That sounds wrong...
[10:15] <jeandelfrigo> Never mind I can install the standard ubuntu and then add de KDE packages after
[10:15] <garrett_> Glad to see fyrestrtr is still at it. =)
[10:15] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: inside that folder now yes... inside a subfolder with the revision number.. you want me to move that data into the other folder?
[10:15] <ompaul> !away > garrett|mobile
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> its a thursday ( a weekend where I live )
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: okay go back to the terminal.
[10:15] <Pyromaniak> fyr ok?
[10:15] <jeandelfrigo> yeh now it's not a big deal i just wanted to test the version a little but not from the live disk i got with a magazine
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: then cd ~/wine-src
[10:16] <ompaul> garrett|mobile, we don't want you changing your nick and spamming like that thanks ;-) if you must use the silent /away
[10:16] <Shinzetsu> this is just weird
[10:16] <jeandelfrigo> Anyway thanks for the help fyresstrtr
[10:16] <Shinzetsu> it doesnt exist in the trash bin though it says it denied access
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: now type ls -- you should only see one directory, and it should say wine-0.something
[10:16] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: that is correct
[10:17] <ticki> ^richiefrich: i cannot write in the mounted file
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: cd wine-<tab> then ./configure
[10:17] <frogzoo> jeandelfrigo: have you tried burning this 713meg file to a 700meg cd?
[10:17] <Shinzetsu> iso's are bigger
[10:17] <Shinzetsu> than the real size
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> jeandelfrigo: are you downloading this on Windows?
[10:18] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: error.... no suitable lex found... please install a "flex" package
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: sudo apt-get install flex bison
[10:18] <Shinzetsu> jeandelfrigo: it can be 713mb but when you burn it itll be under 700mb
[10:18] <ciscosurfer> `paul: still having trouble?
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: might have missed some things lol
[10:18] <jeandelfrigo> frogzoo: nope, can try it but in the magazine they explicitly say use a 800MB otherwise it won't work. But I can try it's only a CD
[10:18] <ticki> ^richiefrich: mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/cdimage/extras': Read-only file system
[10:19] <garrett|mobile> ompaul, This nick is not an away message.
[10:19] <^richiefrich> ticki how did u mount it
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> jeandelfrigo: 800MB or 80 minute?
[10:19] <letters_9> ubotu that link points me to linmodems.org, which points me to motorola.com which goes back to my original issue, there are only .rpm drivers :(
[10:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about that link points me to linmodems.org, which points me to motorola.com which goes back to my original issue, there are only .rpm drivers :( - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:19] <jeandelfrigo> Okay guys i'll try it
[10:19] <printk> ticki: are you root or using sudo?
[10:19] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: no problem... installing 4 packages now
[10:19] <ticki> ^richiefrich: using: sudo mount -o rw,loop myfile.iso /media/cdimage
[10:19] <^richiefrich> printk he mounted an iso
[10:19] <nubious> I need help
[10:19] <jeandelfrigo> nope 800 they say 80 mins = 700 MB.
[10:19] <letters_9> lol really is a bot
[10:19] <nubious> my xgl session crashed
[10:19] <ticki> ^richiefrich: and i am running "sudo mkdir"
[10:19] <nubious> and now I dont have a window manager to work with
[10:19] <printk> ^richiefrich: ohhh he's trying to create a dir on a mounted iso, i see...
[10:20] <^richiefrich> ticki i thought u would have a problem
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> jeandelfrigo: wow that's new to me, didn't know there was such a thing as a 800 MB CD
[10:20] <nubious> how do I restart the ctrl-alt-f7 session?
[10:20] <ticki> printk: using sudo
[10:20] <jeandelfrigo> i'll try burning it guys see what it does
[10:20] <^richiefrich> printk the way he's mounting it it should write
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> nubious: ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:20] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: wow.. lots of yes's... couple of no's... keeps on going... lol
[10:20] <nubious> k
[10:20] <nubious> lemme try that
[10:20] <jeandelfrigo> Well the guys in the store said the same thing yesterday
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: it should tell you at the end if things were successful or not.
[10:20] <nubious> omg
[10:20] <nubious> it worked
[10:20] <nubious> it was that easy
[10:20] <^richiefrich> ticki umount it
[10:20] <nubious> hah
[10:20] <nubious> thanks man
[10:21] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: I know... just LOTS of scrolling.. lol
[10:21] <ciscosurfer>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: yeah, its cool :) makes you feel like you did something lol
[10:21] <^richiefrich> ticki  what is the permissions on /media/cdimage
[10:21] <ticki> it mounted it fine. but i odn't have write access to any file
[10:21] <jeandelfrigo> I personly also haven't seen 800 MB CDs, only 74 min (625MB) and 80min (700MB)
[10:21] <ciscosurfer> MadPilot: why isn't my prev command working...
[10:21] <^richiefrich> ticki i know what the permissions
[10:21] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr:  so.. while I wait.. mind telling me what is wrong with the other version that synaptic use?
[10:21] <^richiefrich> ticki  ls -la  /media/cdimage
[10:21] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: or... why not just use cedega for all this trouble? lol
[10:21] <^richiefrich> do u have write access therE ?
[10:21] <Madpilot> ciscosurfer, what previous command was that?
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: no idea, but this is a surefire way to get it going right.
[10:22] <ticki> ^richiefrich: dr-xr-xr-x 14 root root     4096 2006-05-31 06:59 cdimage
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: cedega is $5 a month
[10:22] <^richiefrich> yes u do
[10:22] <^richiefrich> : \
[10:22] <ciscosurfer> Madpilot: hi, sorry to bother...I tried to set unfiltered on but i don't think it took
[10:22] <Shinzetsu> is there any diff between "rm -r <path>" and rm <path> -R" ?
[10:22] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: ubunto has a guide for compile the free version by hand =P
[10:22] <|thunder> im looking for a tool similair to wget, except it allows variables like [a-z]  and [1,2,3,6-9] . does anyone know of anything like this ?
[10:22] <ticki> ^richiefrich: nope.  i don't..
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> ciscosurfer: you added a space.
[10:22] <ticki> i see an "-"
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: yes, I know of it.
[10:22] <Madpilot> ciscosurfer, sorry, I've no idea what you're talking about...
[10:22] <ticki> not a "w"
[10:22] <jeandelfrigo> thanks for the help, see you
[10:23] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: ok.. my typing is going down hill now... lol anyways... it was successfully, says to run another command
[10:23] <ciscosurfer> fyrestrtr: thank you
[10:23] <^richiefrich> ticki ok then  chmod 777 /media/cdimage
[10:23] <nubious> k next question - would anyone know why when I open gaim it logs me in then disappears?
[10:23] <^richiefrich> then remount the iso
[10:23] <^richiefrich> ticki ^^
[10:23] <beesandflowers> thanks folks, i was able to get pptp running. good bye
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: okay now type make depend && make
[10:23] <|thunder> nubious, check you systrtay
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: then watch the screen :)
[10:23] <ciscosurfer> Madpilot: nm, thanx anyway, fyrestrtr helped me out
[10:24] <ticki> i cannot chmod it because i don't have write access
[10:24] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: no thanks...lol
[10:24] <Alicante> culi pelosi
[10:24] <ticki> ^richiefrich: ^^
[10:24] <jeffery> anyone come across documentation for LVM based installation ?
[10:24] <^richiefrich> no chmod the dir
[10:24] <nubious> |thunder: it's not there
[10:24] <^richiefrich> ticki ok then  chmod 777 /media/cdimage
[10:24] <nubious> |thunder: when I alt tab or anything
[10:24] <^richiefrich> when it's not mounted
[10:24] <^richiefrich> ticki ^
[10:25] <cyphase> the repo is down
[10:25] <|thunder> it may have crashed, try, 'ps -A | grep -i aim
[10:25] <ticki> ^richiefrich: chmod: changing permissions of `/media/cdimage': Read-only file system
[10:25] <ticki> oh.. ok.
[10:25] <ticki> ^richiefrich:  so.. unmount it an chmod it. and not the other way around
[10:25] <^richiefrich> ticki  did u umount  the iso
[10:26] <^richiefrich> ticki  umount then chmod then mount
[10:26] <nubious> |thunder : any other ideas?
[10:26] <|thunder> nope
[10:27] <ticki> ^richiefrich: shit.. it does't work
[10:27] <jn> hey in gnome time prefs there is no option for 12 hour, how do i fix this
[10:28] <^richiefrich> ticki what u mean chmod then mount
[10:28] <ticki> yes
[10:28] <firepol> is anybody of you to install vmware player as follows: sudo apt-get install vmware-player ? i get it installed, the configuration script runs but i get this error: http://en.pastebin.ca/124874
[10:28] <ticki> ^richiefrich: before mounting i have 777 to cdimage
[10:29] <frogzoo> jn: clock type
[10:29] <^richiefrich> ticki yes try that
[10:29] <ticki> ^richiefrich: then i do:  sudo mount -o rw,loop ubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso /media/cdimage
[10:29] <azimuth> Does anybody know how to properly configure evdev driver?
[10:29] <^richiefrich> ticki yes try that
[10:29] <jn> frogzoo: all there is: 24 hour, unix, internet
[10:29] <Ademan> where can I find out info about sources.list ?   (like more detailed information)
[10:29] <azimuth> i got XServer error while booting
[10:29] <ticki> and i only have: dr-xr-xr-x
[10:29] <ticki> ^richiefrich: ^
[10:30] <frogzoo> jn: right click clock -> preferences
[10:30] <jn> right im there
[10:30] <^richiefrich> then it's changing it on u on mounting the iso
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> oh wow -- ban hand luggage?
[10:30] <jn> and under clocktime there is 24 hour, UNIX, and INTERNET.. thats it
[10:30] <jn> i want 12 hour
[10:30] <jn> AM/PM
[10:31] <ticki> ^richiefrich: any idea on how to sort that out?
[10:31] <ompaul> ticki, can you keep it calm pleas - we like it to be family friendly thanks
[10:31] <ticki> ompaul: what do you mean? ???
[10:31] <azimuth> Does anybody know how to properly configure evdev driver?
[10:31] <ompaul> jn, right click and choose preferences
[10:31] <jn> um I AM THERE
[10:31] <ompaul> ticki, 26 minutes past the hour :-)
[10:32] <jn> what now?
[10:32] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: its still chuggin
[10:32] <ompaul> jn, and the top drop down box is 24/12 hours ...
[10:32] <jn> it is not there, like i said, there is only 24, unix and internet
[10:32] <ticki> ompaul: i don't get what you mean.
[10:32] <ompaul> !langauge
[10:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about langauge - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:32] <ompaul> !language
[10:33] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:33] <ych> where can i see what my current ip is? like ipconfig on win
[10:33] <theBishop> after using OSX most of the week, i think i Ubuntu+Compiz is actually more attractive
[10:33] <ticki> what did i say? Shoot?
[10:33] <ompaul> yes  --
[10:33] <ticki> bah.. that was like half an hour ago.
[10:33] <ompaul> it was 4 minutes ago
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: aye, it takes a while.
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> ych: ifconfig
[10:34] <NineTeen67Comet> theBishop: Did you use Quinn's theme pack? I had it but it's not in my sources.list anymore, and have been looking for it ever since ..
[10:34] <Ademan> how can I add both a gtkmenubar and another widget to a gtkwindow? gtk complains when i do that, do i need to give the window a gtkVBox and then put the menubar and other stuff inside that?
[10:34] <ompaul> jn, well I hate to say it but that drop down box works here I used it to adjust the clock
[10:34] <ticki> 6 minutes..
[10:35] <ticki> anyway.. i will try not to say it again.
[10:35] <ych> thanx fyrestrtr
[10:35] <lhds> when i try to modprobe my tv card i get insmod /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>/kernel/drivers/media/video/saa7134/saa7134.ko sox -c 2 -s -w -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp1 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp tuner=54 card=65 i2c_scan=1 oss=1 video_nr=0 dsp_nr=1 mixer_nr=3  where  are those arguments saved?
[10:35] <ticki> ^richiefrich: ok.. going back. what can i do.. ?
[10:35] <^richiefrich> ticki idk  man now..  u might need.. to rsync -av the iso  to the hdd
[10:35] <^richiefrich> then u can edit it
[10:36] <jn> what is the package name for that time-admin thing.. ill remove/reinstall cause something is up
[10:36] <ticki> what would that do?
[10:36] <theBishop> NineTeen67Comet, it comes and goes, i think the themes are mostly garbage though
[10:37] <theBishop> NineTeen67Comet, i like ubuntu's default menubar better
[10:37] <seshomaru> hello - need help in configuring network on a new Xubuntu install
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> lhds: I think /etc/modprobe.d/options
[10:37] <NineTeen67Comet> theBishop: I had the OSX looking one, then I borked my box, and miss it .
[10:37] <garrett|mass> So, slight problem.
[10:37] <theBishop> NineTeen67Comet, lol
[10:37] <lhds> no its not there
[10:37] <|thunder> hayden, curl was the advanced version of wget i was looking for. fyi
[10:37] <garrett|mass> Go to install fglrx on the ole' desktop, get a DRI error when I do fglrxinfo.
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> curl is not an advanced version of wget
[10:37] <theBishop> NineTeen67Comet, after using compiz for a while, even osx starts to feel a bit bland
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> curl is a library for fetching urls lol
[10:38] <|thunder> theBishop, i agree
[10:38] <|thunder> i just need hot corners
[10:38] <theBishop> NineTeen67Comet, but apple's art design is more refined
[10:38] <NineTeen67Comet> Yeah, I've got xgl running dual monitors (I've got three, but it's just not working on all three) and it's been awesome .. only a couple times has it hickuped ..
[10:38] <ticki> ^richiefrich: i see what you mean.. transfer all the files to another location.. but then, i will have to build the iso.. too complicate..
[10:38] <|thunder> for expose and show desktop
[10:38] <seshomaru> can anyone help me configure network on new Xubuntu?
[10:38] <ticki> ^richiefrich: thanks a lot.. we tried it at least.. i will do it whenever i have some spare time..
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> |thunder: you can set that up easily, I remember I had it going like that (although I quickly turned it off because I kept triggering it by mistake)
[10:39] <ompaul> jn just looked in its help: This option is not shown if your session is not set to use the 12 hour clock.
[10:39] <ticki> ^richiefrich: thanks a lot man, you have been of great help.
[10:39] <ticki> have a good night...
[10:39] <ompaul> jn, deps on your session settings
[10:39] <|thunder> fyrestrtr, where is it ?
[10:39] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: how long you think this will take? lol
[10:40] <|thunder> fyrestrtr, i looked all through the prefs
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> it takes a good while
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> on my system, it took around 30 minutes
[10:40] <|thunder> im in gnome
[10:40] <^richiefrich> ticki np
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> |thunder: gconf-editor
[10:40] <carthik> Where can I find a list of compatible video cards (ati)?
[10:40] <azcazandco> which is the best way to do virtualisation on linux? vmware player or vmware workstation?
[10:40] <ompaul> Pyromaniak, not a ban but a mute? %username? ;-)
[10:40] <azcazandco> I need to do testing on multiple environments
[10:40] <Blinker> carthik: are you looking for a specific one?
[10:40] <|thunder> fyrestrtr, thx., ill have a look and see if I can find it in there
[10:41] <timalot> azcazandco: dont use vmware it aint free
[10:41] <seshomaru> never mind - sorted it out myslef....
[10:41] <seshomaru> bye bye
[10:41] <jn> ah ok ty
[10:41] <seshomaru> all
[10:41] <azcazandco> timalot: so what do you suggest?
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> |thunder: if you have any questions about that, ask in #xgl -- they know their stuff.
[10:41] <vlt> Hello. After updating cupsys last night I cannot print at least pdf files to an smb connected HP Laserjet 1200 anymore. Is this a known issue?
[10:41] <riddick> hey all, ubuntu for the win
[10:41] <riddick> hhehe
[10:41] <|thunder> fyrestrtr, thx
[10:41] <theBishop> has anyone used the most recent Suse?
[10:41] <riddick> yes
[10:41] <timalot> azcazandco: what do want to run inside the virtual pc?
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> I did
[10:41] <ompaul> vlt, to find out the answer to that check out launchpad.net the bug recorder
[10:41] <jn> hey does anyone have time to look at this webpage for bestcrypt software and tell me if there is anyway to install bc without comipling ubuntu..
[10:41] <carthik> Blinker, a cheap ati chipset video card (<$75) that works with no issue with the open source driver (works out of the box with Ubuntu installed)
[10:41] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:41] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:41] <azcazandco> i want to run xp pro and also win2000
[10:42] <theBishop> what do you think of it?  compared to ubuntu?
[10:42] <karl> is there any way to check the history of files I have opened in vim? I was working on a file, and now I can't seem to find it
[10:42] <jn> it talks about compiling src which i got... but i didnt want to actually do it if it meant i would not be able to get security updates etc..
[10:42] <riddick> I think suse is a better for networking
[10:42] <jn> im not sure if compiling src would affect binary
[10:42] <Blinker> carthik: look up the price on an x300
[10:42] <ompaul> theBishop, we might be biased - please talk in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:42] <riddick> but thats why I have joined this channel
[10:42] <Blinker> carthik: or m300 if its a lappy
[10:42] <riddick> I was hoping to hear someone tell me otherwise
[10:42] <azcazandco> I also need to be able to fileshare with ubuntu
[10:42] <DooMRunneR> hi
[10:43] <timalot> azcazandco: i dont know about how good vmware... is i am just saying one reason it is bad is it not free software... i use wine if i want to run windows apps
[10:43] <carthik> Blinker, X300SE is what I had my eyes on - I will take this as a good omen :)
[10:43] <riddick> because I scrapped my suse because the ati and audigy drivers sucked
[10:43] <azcazandco> wine keeps dying
[10:43] <Blinker> i set up my M300 (lappy ver.) with 0 problems, though I did have to manually configure acceleration
[10:43] <timalot> qemu will make a virtual pc...
[10:43] <karl> m300's are cool
[10:43] <karl> i have an evo n400c though
[10:43] <karl> are nicer
[10:43] <azcazandco> i had photoshop 6 running in the office crosser yesterday but then it stopped working
[10:43] <riddick> what I want to know is, can someone tell me of a good networking package for ubuntu?
[10:43] <karl> have a built in battery
[10:43] <karl> costs just as much
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> riddick: all linux distros use the same drivers, so if something didn't work in suse, it probably won't work in ubuntu.
[10:44] <karl> or less
[10:44] <Pyromaniak> ompaul: what?
[10:44] <timalot> azcazandco: why dont u just use the gimp?
[10:44] <riddick> nope it worked like a dream in ubuntu
[10:44] <azcazandco> I am having issues with timescales and deadlines
[10:44] <riddick> the mesa drivers where heaps easier to replace
[10:44] <Blinker> riddick: networking package? you mean like a local device manager?
[10:44] <azcazandco> and learning curve
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> lol I can tell when azureus is finished download, from the large spike in my disk usage in system monitor.
[10:44] <riddick> yep
[10:44] <ompaul> Pyromaniak, you wanted a %, one % that I know is the "ban" called mute that allows a user not send to the channel ;-)
[10:45] <riddick> I really hate iptables
[10:45] <Blinker> riddick: I hear NetworkManager is nice
[10:45] <Blinker> its in dapper
[10:45] <riddick> mmm
[10:45] <Pyromaniak> ompaul: no.. % for my install.. lol
[10:45] <riddick> I got that
[10:45] <azcazandco> in the hr i used phtotoshop yesterday I got loads done
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> ompaul: he was talking about a progress bar for console operations
[10:45] <riddick> but the config file sucks
[10:45] <Blinker> ahh
[10:45] <riddick> why can't I expect a gui one
[10:45] <lhds>  when i try to modprobe my tv card i get insmod /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>/kernel/drivers/media/video/saa7134/saa7134.ko sox -c 2 -s -w -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp1 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp tuner=54 card=65 i2c_scan=1 oss=1 video_nr=0 dsp_nr=1 mixer_nr=3  where  are those arguments saved? not in modprobe.d options anyway
[10:45] <ompaul> fyrestrtr, and I was being funny ;-)
[10:45] <timalot> azcazandco: ok well i am just preaching but.... in the long term it's better to use free software
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> oh right
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> ignore me lol
[10:45] <azcazandco> I hear you
[10:45] <Blinker> riddick: I take it the manager bundled with ubuntu/gnome isn't working for you?
[10:46] <riddick> nope
[10:46] <azcazandco> I just have deadlines to meet just now and am killing myself timewise
[10:46] <riddick> it just doesn't open the ports I want
[10:46] <ompaul> riddick, firewalls are seriously non trivial, you can use firestarter but granular control is where it is at
[10:46] <azcazandco> i really wanna ditch windows completely but that takes learning time
[10:46] <riddick> infact I started on ubuntu, but changed to suse for that reason alone
[10:46] <timalot> azcazandco: an alternative to vmware is qemu its kqemu kernel module... qemu is free but the kqemu kernel module is not
[10:46] <ryan_naruto> why cant i see my network in linux but i can see my linux computers on windows xp
[10:46] <timalot> ans its...
[10:47] <timalot> and its
[10:47] <riddick> ompaul: I agree, can't I find a happy medium
[10:47] <azcazandco> i heard quemu runs win2000 slower
[10:47] <erryko> hey, i got another problem. i have to start sysv-rc but, if i write it, it says that the command is not found. and if i try to get it with apt-get it says that it is already at the latest version :S
[10:47] <azcazandco> one of the fears I have is going through big tutorials doing stuff i dont understand and breaking things I know even less about
[10:47] <Krhis> Do my cron jobs execute while I'm logged out?
[10:47] <ompaul> ryan_naruto, TCP != wins - I think you have a windows network there
[10:47] <ompaul> !ntfs
[10:47] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[10:47] <azcazandco> I already managed to bust my opengl
[10:48] <NineTeen67Comet> anyone in here had luck on running dual vid cards (plain pci and agp) and triple monitors? I can get dual monitors, either both on my agp card, or one on each card but not all three.
[10:48] <ompaul> azcazandco, don't go changing all sorts of things - work with what you have and add on - one feature at a time
[10:49] <azcazandco> ompaul: I hear that too
[10:49] <ubuntu> hi
[10:49] <azcazandco> I tried to get xgl working
[10:49] <timalot> azcazandco:what happend?
[10:49] <azcazandco> photoshop and native ie 5, 5.5, 6 & 7 are what I miss completely
[10:50] <riddick> my other question since I get the feeling no one is gonna have the perfect answer for a gui firewall, has anyone ran bf2 server on ubuntu
[10:50] <timalot> azcazandco: u miss ie? ... i dont know about that
[10:50] <NineTeen67Comet> riddick: I used to use Firestarter as a gui firewall ..
[10:50] <riddick> i was using that
[10:51] <riddick> but it never opened a port for me
[10:51] <NineTeen67Comet> riddick: didn't like it? I haven't used it in a few years ..
[10:51] <riddick> I'd do a port scan---- and nothing
[10:51] <azcazandco> timalot: for testing only
[10:51] <ikonia> n
[10:52] <riddick> still the standard ones open
[10:52] <riddick> painful!!!
[10:52] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: hope you aren't leaving soon... its still going.. lol
[10:52] <azcazandco> timalot: alan@alan-desktop:~$ fglrxinfo fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:52] <ikonia> could someone please give a brief description on the different bettn the ubuntu-6.06-$version.iso and the ubutntu-6.06-alternate-$version.iso ?
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> I'll be here for another hour, then I'm going home for lunch, then I'll be back on as 'burhan'.
[10:52] <azcazandco> that is what happened after following this tutorial http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Xgl-Compiz-Dapper
[10:53] <park_canada> hi. my wireless network doesn't work. i've been told to d/l network-manager and i did (with me wired modem). how should i countinue ?
[10:53] <timalot> azcazandco: ok u have misplaced your LibGL.so.1 ... its easy todo
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> ikonia: the first one, is a desktop livecd. It contains the graphical installer. The otherone (alternate) has the non-graphical installer, allows you many customization options (such as a server or oem install, etc). It also works on many more machines since it doesn't have a complete GUI. I recommend the alternate cd.
[10:53] <azcazandco> timalot: thanks for taking me on btw, I have so many questions all the time I think I do folks head in!
[10:53] <ikonia> thank you
[10:54] <azcazandco> timalot: how do I get it back?
[10:54] <TheGateKeeper> ikonia: first one is a livecd uses a GUI installer, the other uses the old text installer, and I think may contain packages also
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> park_canada: run it? :)
[10:54] <timalot> azcazandco: ok ill take a look at that link so i can refresh my memory on how i did it :)
[10:54] <azcazandco> thanks
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> azcazandco: use the howto at compiz.net
[10:54] <park_canada> fyrestrtr: im not sure how :|
[10:54] <azcazandco> I think it is the lines at the bottom that shafted me
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> azcazandco: and ask xgl questions in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:55] <park_canada> i clicked the nm_somthing file and run it also via the teerminal..what should happen ?
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> park_canada: hit alt+f2, type gnome-network-manager and hit enter. It should work.
[10:55] <azcazandco> fyrestrtr: will that work even if I have borked stuff
[10:55] <Ademan> is there a way to make the glade interface designer spit out straight gtk code? (without the use of libglade) i don't care what language, atm i'd prefer python, but c works too
[10:55] <vlt> ompaul: thanks.
[10:55] <azcazandco> fyrestrtr: okay, I will do
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> Ademan: this is the ubuntu support channel, might try asking in a more appropriate place.
[10:56] <ryan_naruto> i need help i've installed samba for file sharing but i cant seem to make it work. on my windows machine it can see the linux but it cant browse it it gives an error it is not accesible. on my linux machine i cant see either my linux or windows machine. where would i start to troubleshoot.. help please
[10:56] <ompaul> vlt, yw
[10:56] <Landrus> hi all
[10:57] <shawnr_> can anyone help me with this browser problem, alot of menus are displaying correctly: http://s114.photobucket.com/albums/n242/shawnrgr/Screenshot-1.png
[10:57] <k31th> how do i install kernel ssource for ubuntu ?
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> !samba > ryan_naruto
[10:57] <k31th> 2.6 kernel ?
[10:57] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: what have you done to my poor system.. lol
[10:57] <Landrus> i wanted to say thank you for all developers of ubuntu. I know linux systems for some time now, and ubuntu is really really great!
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> k31th: any particular reason you want the source?
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: making it work, for one.
[10:58] <k31th> fyrestrtr: to compile some thing
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> k31th: what?
[10:58] <k31th> fyrestrtr: or do i just need the kernel
[10:58] <ych> umm
[10:58] <ych> more noob questions...
[10:58] <azcazandco> timalot: did you see the bit I meant?
[10:59] <park_canada> fyrestrtr: trying
[10:59] <fyrestrtr> !kernel > k31th
[10:59] <k31th> fyrestrtr: im getting this error
[10:59] <k31th> cypr.c:54:49: error: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/config.h: No s                                                  uch file or directory
[10:59] <timalot> azcazandco: are u in #ubuntu-xgl? we better stick to the rules :) ... plus it's quieter
[10:59] <ych> how do i open a dir like /home/me/.gaim/ in window manager?
[10:59] <k31th> so i fig i need the source fyrestrtr ?
[10:59] <fyrestrtr> k31th: what are you building?
[10:59] <k31th> fyrestrtr: its just some ldap passwd chang thing (web front end)
[10:59] <ych> i can cd there in terminal, but i dont see it if i open my home foder
[10:59] <fyrestrtr> ych: hit enter and type /home/me/.gaim/
[11:00] <park_canada> fyrestrtr: it can't find the application
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> k31th: have you checked that its not available?
[11:00] <k31th> Yes
[11:00] <park_canada> fyrestrtr: im sure it was d/l. 100%
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> park_canada: did you read the wifi docs?
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> k31th: what's it called?
[11:00] <park_canada> fyrestrtr: not all
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> !wifi > park_canada
[11:00] <park_canada> fyrestrtr: the connection is configured but not working
[11:00] <ych> thanx
[11:01] <k31th> http://freshmeat.net/projects/cypr/ fyrestrtr
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> k31th: give me a second
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> k31th: download the source sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r`
[11:03] <Krhis> Do my cron jobs execute while I'm logged out?
[11:03] <fyrestrtr> k31th: then make the symlink in /usr/src/linux to point to the correct sources. See !kernel for more info
[11:03] <Tomcat_> Krhis: Yes.
[11:03] <Krhis> Thanks.
[11:03] <k31th> fyrestrtr: doesnt work if i use uname -r
[11:03] <k31th> E: Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.15-20-686
[11:04] <fyrestrtr> k31th: what kernel do you run?
[11:04] <k31th> fyrestrtr: ^^^
[11:04] <fyrestrtr> sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15
[11:04] <k31th> !kernel
[11:04] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:05] <k31th> fyrestrtr: thats done it dl now :D
[11:05] <k31th> thanks
[11:05] <fyrestrtr> don't forget the symlink
[11:06] <k31th> fyrestrtr: i dont seen any info about the symlink at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> k31th: sudo ln -sf /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15 /usr/src/linux <-- that should do it.
[11:08] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: is there Any way to tell how far along this has gone?
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: nope
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: well, for someone that has done it before, yes (by reading what its compiling) but for other people, nope.
[11:10] <Blinker> in terms of resource requirements, would ubuntu be comparible to xp or so? I'm installing on a 400MHz machine and i'm curious how long i'll be waiting between commands, hehe
[11:10] <k31th> fyrestrtr: installing the linux-sources has only dumped a tar file in /usr/src/linuc i presume i need to untar it
[11:11] <fyrestrtr> k31th: hrmm, it should have untarred it, but yeah, untar it, then make the link
[11:11] <Joshier> I want to run ubuntu in windows native, apparently cygwin does this? I looked at their site but looks very hard. I'm using ubuntu now with vmware but it's slow.
[11:11] <fyrestrtr> Blinker: depends. If you don't install a gui interface, then it should be very snappy.
[11:11] <Blinker> fyrestrtr: still learning linux, so i'll be installing gui for now
[11:11] <k31th> fyrestrtr: wacky ! im untaring it now
[11:11] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: Do you think Cedega is worth it? I've read the free one is crippled... and without paying for it I Can't even seen the supported apps list (used to be able to)
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> Blinker: well, you could install some lightweight wm like xfce4
[11:12] <panos> join #Xgl
[11:12] <panos> well hello
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: I don't know to be honest. Never used it, always used wine.
[11:12] <panos> I need help and assistance
[11:12] <Blinker> fyrestrtr: ahh, good to know what the difference was/is =p thanks, I'll check it out
[11:12] <panos> could you help me with compiz and xgl ?
[11:12] <k31th> cedega does work and its not very much money pr month if i didnt have an ati card id run it
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> panos: #ubuntu-xgl
[11:13] <fyrestrtr> Blinker: first, setup a minimal install from the alternate cd, then install xubuntu-desktop.
[11:13] <panos> ok man
[11:13] <fyrestrtr> Blinker: you'll find its quicker than xp -- how much ram on your machine?
[11:14] <Blinker> 160-192, i forget which
[11:14] <vlt> Hello. Last night I did the recommended cupsys update with aptitude. Now I cannot print anymore (the printer prints "@PJL" lines only). When I try to change the used driver (e. g. to ps) an error message appears (KDE printing dialog). What can I do?
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> ehh
[11:15] <Blinker> but i have a standalone drive i'll be using for swap only
[11:15] <ych> whats a good program to use to burn an audio cd from mp3s?
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> ych: k3b
[11:16] <Madpilot> ych, in Ubuntu? Serpentine
[11:16] <surface-> i couldn't find libpthread and libpthread-dev
[11:16] <surface-> pls help, is there any repo i missing?
[11:16] <Blinker> ooh, heres a good question too...I have a 250G HDD that was giving me trouble on win, wouldn't recognize mor ethan ~128G. does linux's filesystem handle drives that large?
[11:17] <LeaChim> Blinker, it does
[11:17] <Blinker> yum
[11:17] <Blinker> k, thx
[11:17] <ych> thanx again fyrestrtr
[11:17] <LeaChim> /dev/sdc1             230G  137G   82G  63% /media/usbdisk
[11:17] <ych> and madpilot
[11:17] <LeaChim> :D
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> you have a 250GB usb disk?!
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> oh, an external usb drive.
[11:18] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr:  tappin my foot here... lol
[11:18] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: wondering if it will ever finish =P
[11:19] <LeaChim> fyrestrtr, indeed :P usb hard drive ;)
[11:20] <mnk> hi all - how do i upgrade pls?
[11:20] <mnk> !upgrade
[11:20] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[11:21] <mnk> so how would i upgrade to 6.0.1?
[11:21] <agorf> hello. any links to point me on how to setup 6.06 using the text installer?
[11:21] <mnk> i mean 6.06.1
[11:21] <mnk> wow, this is the quietest i have EVER seen this channel
[11:23] <dmitri> hello, i have 2 same NICs which are shown in lspci. Only eth0 is up, and ifconfig eth1 up says: no such device. How do i bring up eth1?
[11:24] <Tomcat_> dmitri: Do "ifconfig" and see how the second device is named.
[11:24] <Tomcat_> dmitri: ifconfig -a
[11:25] <ompaul> mnk you just make sure you have -updates enabled in your sources.list file
[11:25] <dmitri> Tomcat: eth2! silly me
[11:25] <park_canada> fyrestrtr:  i configured a wireless connection as described in the manual. doesn't work...
[11:25] <bnD> ompaul, * mnk has quit (Client Quit)
[11:25] <micahcowan> mnk: if you have the "dapper-updates" repositories enabled, I think you're already on "6.06.1"... it's more of a install from scratch thing, I think...
[11:25] <shawnr_> can anyone help me with this browser problem, alot of menus are displaying correctly: http://s114.photobucket.com/albums/n242/shawnrgr/Screenshot-1.png
[11:25] <ompaul> bnD, ahh :-)
[11:25] <bnD> :P
[11:26] <dmitri> Tomcat: and how do i make sure these two NICs are loaded at boot?
[11:26] <Tomcat_> dmitri: Well they are obviously loaded, as they both show up in ifconfig... you mean configured?
[11:26] <Tomcat_> dmitri: Just configure them in /etc/network/interfaces or in Gnome... that's all to do. :o
[11:27] <Pyromaniak> Can anyone recommend another IM client rather then Gaim?
[11:27] <Tomcat_> Pyromaniak: centericq is supposed to be good.
[11:27] <dmitri> Tomcat: yes. so that i dont need to bring them up everytime
[11:27] <Pyromaniak> Tomcat_: is that JUST icq? I need all the regular protocols supported
[11:27] <Tomcat_> Pyromaniak: supports the ICQ2000, Yahoo!, AIM, MSN, IRC and Jabber protocols
[11:27] <skwashd> hi all
[11:28] <skwashd> i am playing with a g3 lombard ppc with dapper on it
[11:28] <Pyromaniak> ooo... jabber.. I could just cheat and use that..
[11:28] <Tomcat_> :-)
[11:28] <skwashd> sometimes it all goes pear shaped ... so can i do something like ctrl-alt-del on the built in keyboard ?
[11:29] <mneptok> ctl-alt-backspace?
[11:30] <skwashd> mneptok: no .. tried that
[11:30] <park_canada> can any1 help me setup my wireless connection? it's not working after i configured it.
[11:30] <skwashd> bs on the mac is marked as "delete" ... so i thought i might have got lucky with that ... but i didn't :(
[11:30] <park_canada> how can i find the ESSID ?
[11:30] <Pyromaniak> Tomcat_: unfortunatly I want something with gui =P
[11:30] <Tomcat_> Pyromaniak: But it has one! text-one though :D
[11:31] <Pyromaniak> lol
[11:32] <mneptok> Pyromaniak: network-manager-gnome
[11:34] <dmitri> my 2nd NIC -eth2 is up, but not activated according to firestarter. How do I activate it and save these settings for boot as well?
[11:34] <Pyromaniak> mneptok: what?
[11:36] <mneptok> Pyromaniak: network-manager-gnome
[11:39] <park_canada> can any1 help me setup my wireless connection? it's not working after i configured it.
[11:40] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: hey, its done
[11:40] <mneptok> park_canada: define "configured it"
[11:41] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: oh okay
[11:42] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: now sudo make install
[11:42] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, can you help me with this browser problem, alot of menus aren't displaying correctly: http://s114.photobucket.com/albums/n242/shawnrgr/Screenshot-1.png
[11:42] <shawnr_> when you have a second
[11:42] <QMario> How do I extract a page from a PDF in Linux?
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: use another browser
[11:43] <park_canada> mneptok: i would first like to know how to find the ESSID=network name
[11:43] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, they all do that
[11:43] <mneptok> shawnr_: CNN's stylesheet is messed up. it's not just you.
[11:43] <shawnr_> its not just cnn
[11:44] <frogzoo> QMario: print the page to a pdf printer :)
[11:44] <shawnr_> actuallyt
[11:44] <park_canada> mneptok: it currently called main. i thoght i might wrong
[11:44] <mneptok> park_canada: what exactly have you done thus far?
[11:44] <shawnr_> mneptok, actually the style sheet isn't messed up. swiftfox displays it just fine
[11:44] <shawnr_> but no other browser will
[11:44] <mneptok> shawnr_: it's hardly surprising that multiple sites have crappy CSS implementations :)
[11:45] <QMario> Frogzoo, okay. Thank you.
[11:45] <cbx33> Hi everyone
[11:45] <zpiff> Is there any program like microsoft office visio for linux?
[11:46] <QMario> Frogzoo, what is the command line function for printing to file?
[11:46] <cbx33> anyone good with screencasting and video encoding here?
[11:46] <ompaul> zpiff, thing called dia
[11:46] <zpiff> ompaul: thanks :)
[11:46] <cbx33> I have an mpeg and an mp3 and I need to encode it upinto a video that windows media player can play properly
[11:46] <frogzoo> zpiff: kivio, dia, oo drawing
[11:46] <ompaul> QMario, lp filename
[11:47] <QMario> Ompaul, thank you!!! :)
[11:47] <cbx33> I had partial success, with one method
[11:47] <cbx33> but the video stopped halfway through
[11:47] <cbx33> audio continued
[11:47] <cbx33> any ideas?
[11:47] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: done
[11:48] <QMario> Ompaul, no such file or directory.
[11:48] <park_canada> mneptok: i opened network settings, chosed enable this connection for wireless, chose main as the network name, keytype hexadecimal, WEP key empty, and configuration DHCP. i also d/l network manager but i can't run it.
[11:48] <frogzoo> QMario: you want to install cups-pdf
[11:48] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: that's it :)
[11:48] <mneptok> park_canada: what error do you get when running network manager?
[11:48] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: now run winecfg
[11:48] <jn-> how do i change font in bars (gnome)
[11:48] <jn-> color too
[11:49] <park_canada> mneptok: can't find program ...
[11:49] <park_canada> mneptok: i tried from terminal and ALT+F2 "gnome-network-manager"
[11:49] <jn-> by bars i mean panel
[11:50] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: crashed when I click the sound tab
[11:50] <frogzoo> QMario: you want to install cups-pdf - & then 'sudo +s /usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf'
[11:50] <mneptok> park_canada: it's nm-applet
[11:51] <park_canada> ???
[11:51] <Pyromaniak> fyr and it is still doing the same thing as before... not working at all.. lol
[11:51] <park_canada> oh
[11:51] <mneptok> park_canada: log out and back in and the network manager should appear
[11:51] <park_canada> trying
[11:51] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: what did it say on the console?
[11:52] <Pyromaniak> I didn't use console.. lol
[11:52] <Pyromaniak> just a sec
[11:52] <micahcowan> frogzoo, why should setuid be necessary for cups-pdf?
[11:52] <QMario> Frogzoo, no such package.
[11:52] <micahcowan> QMario, try "apt-get update" first?
[11:52] <frogzoo> QMario: as cups-pdf ? you on dapper ?
[11:52] <park_canada> mneptok: i logged oput and tried nm-applet,gnome-network-manager and network-manager from ALT+F2. not working
[11:52] <QMario> No.
[11:53] <QMario> I am not on Dapper.
[11:53] <[Wiebel] > hmz
[11:53] <[Wiebel] > Setting up gnump3d (2.9.8-2) ...
[11:53] <[Wiebel] > dpkg: error processing gnump3d (--configure):
[11:53] <[Wiebel] >  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 128
[11:53] <[Wiebel] > Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:53] <[Wiebel] >  gnump3d
[11:53] <mneptok> park_canada: did you edit /etc/network/interfaces at all?
[11:53] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[11:53] <frogzoo> QMario: ah, do you have universe enabled? pretty sure it's available on breezy as well
[11:54] <mneptok> cups-pdf is available on Breezy, for sure
[11:54] <park_canada> no
[11:54] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: hrmm.....
[11:54] <frogzoo> QMario: am I supposed to guess which release your're running?
[11:54] <krimzon> !nvidia
[11:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:54] <Pyromaniak> also... if it matters.. it has the same settings I had previously
[11:54] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: yeah it reads them.
[11:54] <QMario> Frogzoo, no.
[11:55] <fyrestrtr> You could try and delete your wine settings and start from scratch.
[11:55] <QMario> Frogzoo, I am using SUSE 10.1.
[11:55] <fyrestrtr> QMario: this is the ubuntu support channel, not suse support.
[11:55] <jensens> how do i unpack mac binhex (*.hqx) files in ubuntu?
[11:55] <frogzoo> QMario: please don't waist my time
[11:55] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: reads what? didn't I remove that?
[11:55] <QMario> Frogzoo and fyrestrtr sorry!!! :(
[11:56] <micahcowan> QMario, the pdf cups driver is still what you want, but you should take it to #suse
[11:56] <QMario> Micahcowan, okay.
[11:56] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: no, your wine configuration doesn't get removed. Anyway, launch your came from console, see what it says.
[11:56] <QMario> Thank you frogzoo, fyrestrtr, and micahcowan!!! :)
[11:56] <superphly> does anyone know how to get dual head + widescreen support in ubuntu?
[11:57] <xxx_justsomenick> is there a way to install dapper from within a running system, without booting off the cd. Dapper Cds refuse to boot on my system, but running Edgy no problem right now
[11:58] <micahcowan> downgrading from edgy to dapper is not really recommended...
[11:58] <mneptok> xxx_justsomenick: so install Edgy, edit the apt sources, and apt-get dist upgrade
[11:58] <ccooke> xxx_justsomenick: yes. It requires a bit of trickery and knowledge of the boot process, though
[11:58] <frogzoo> cheers QMario
[11:58] <fyrestrtr> superphly: using twinview its easy :) I don't know about xinerama
[11:58] <ccooke> xxx_justsomenick: The overview, though, is this:
[11:58] <fyrestrtr> !xinerama > superphly
[11:58] <xxx_justsomenick> i dont want edgy. but it is the only cd that would boot or install on this system.
[11:58] <ccooke> xxx_justsomenick: 1) Make a directory. Use debootstrap to install a dapper base system into it.
[11:58] <micahcowan> the usual recommendation is to reinstall. You can edit the sources, as has been suggested, but prepare to deal with dependency conflicts and such
[11:58] <Pyromaniak> fyr can you tell me how? I've just been using a .sh that came with the download of the game
[11:58] <superphly> well, i'm a lonnnng time unix user, just wondering what you guys thought
[11:59] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: its normally wine /path/to/your/game.exe
[11:59] <ccooke> xxx_justsomenick: 2) mount proc inside the dapper directory, then chroot in and install/configure it as the CD would
[11:59] <park_canada> mneptok: no, i haven't....
[11:59] <superphly> fyrestrtr: apt-get doesn't have twinview
[11:59] <ccooke> xxx_justsomenick: (That means: Configure locales, timezone, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop etc)
[11:59] <fyrestrtr> superphly: that's because its specific to nvidia.
[11:59] <xxx_justsomenick> so basically wait until edgy really comes out in a few months. that is beyond my skills at this point
[12:00] <superphly> ATI here
[12:00] <fyrestrtr> superphly: its a feature of nvidia drivers.
[12:00] <fyrestrtr> superphly: with ATI, I believe the control panel can set that up.
[12:00] <ccooke> xxx_justsomenick: Install sash in Edgy. (the stand-alone shell). Make a note of its absolute filename and path
[12:00] <superphly> i'm not seeing a control panel
[12:00] <fyrestrtr> superphly: but you have to use the drivers from ati.com -- I don't think the other drivers come with the control panel.
[12:00] <ccooke> xxx_justsomenick: ah. Sorry, missed that.
[12:00] <timalot> !pastebin
[12:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:01] <superphly> right, where would the control panel be?
[12:01] <thefish> superphly: twinview is for nvidia only
[12:01] <modern`> hi
[12:01] <Pntkl> hey
[12:01] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: it didn't say anything
[12:01] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: just tossed me back to prompt after maybe 2 seconds
[12:01] <xxx_justsomenick> would love to try, but honest enough to recognize its way beyond me at this point.
[12:02] <nalpha> how to admin@admin-desktop:/$ su - root Password:su: Authentication failure
[12:02] <nalpha> why yah??
[12:02] <modern`> don't know
[12:02] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: wine server is running, and so is the game.exe
[12:03] <seshomaru> hi , anybody knows how to make desktop short cuts in Xubuntu?
[12:03] <ccooke> xxx_justsomenick: hmm. Why does the CD fail?
[12:03] <ompaul> seshomaru, right click and start from there
[12:03] <acojlo> how to clean rc6.d with unneeded scripts?
[12:03] <Pntkl> investigating
[12:04] <fyrestrtr> Pyromaniak: what game is this again?
[12:05] <ompaul> acojlo, they need to be there to turn off services usually as you reboot the box can be handy to close the databases correctly
[12:05] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: continuum... it worked almost perfect before that other guy in the #wine forum broke it :[
[12:05] <[Wiebel] > how can I see what the exact error dpkg gives while installing?
[12:06] <[Wiebel] > dpkg: error processing gnump3d (--configure):
[12:06] <[Wiebel] >  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 128
[12:06] <ghmsr1> ola guapo
[12:06] <seshomaru> ompaul, thanks , im right clicking but cant find how to amke a short cut, i went thru "settings" but nothing..
[12:07] <ompaul> seshomaru, - create launcher -
[12:07] <jing> hi
[12:08] <ompaul> seshomaru, or drag a copy of the icon from the menu to the desktop or panel
[12:09] <seshomaru> ompaul, im in XFCE - I cant seem to drag or 'create launcher' should I be able to?
[12:09] <CheetahMk2> !ati
[12:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:09] <krimzon> i can boot both windows and linux today
[12:10] <ompaul> seshomaru, well you are in #ubuntu ask in #xubuntu :)
[12:11] <Pyromaniak> fyrestrtr: any idea's?
[12:11] <ompaul> seshomaru, that is why my instruction does not seem to work for you - it is aimed at people using GNOME as this is #ubuntu :)
[12:11] <seshomaru> ompaul ,sorry ,didn't realise there is a Xubuntu channel...
[12:12] <seshomaru> thanks anyway....
[12:13] <sc0tt> hey folks :)
[12:14] <shawnr_> gconf-editor/apps/panel/global/panel_minimized_size  -  isn't working. im trying to get panel auto-hide to 'hide' more.
[12:15] <Grizzly> Hello?
[12:15] <usound> hi, what are some of the reasons why my screen refresh rate might be set lower than it can. I know I have used it for a long time on 70Hz but Ubuntu is using it at 60Hz. I changed xorg.conf to make sure the VertRefresh included 70. It does.
[12:15] <jing> hi, wan to ask a question, i have a Desktop PC and a notebook, in Desktop PC i have 2 Netscard and cable, i just want to Notebook connect internet via Desktop, how can i configure it. Now the connection between desktop and notebook is ok. But Notebook still has no Internet connection, how can i do with it?
[12:15] <acojlo> some expert for S3 resume?
[12:17] <usound> jing: so you have a working network connection, but not an internet connection? What Os is your desktop?
[12:17] <jing> Desktop is windows XP
[12:17] <vlt> Sorry to ask again, and even more sorry if it has been answered before (my XChat buffer is set too short): Last night I did the recommended cupsys update with aptitude. Now I cannot print anymore (the printer prints "@PJL" lines only). When I try to change the used driver (e. g. to ps) an error message appears (KDE printing dialog). What can I do?
[12:17] <Keddie> what program can I use to create an ISO from files on my HD?
[12:18] <vlt> Keddie: mkisofs
[12:18] <user_> hi all!
[12:18] <usound> jing: That should be easy, I have done it before. Do you have ICS setup? And then you need to make sure that your laptop is using DHCP.
[12:18] <hawkaloogie> Keddie, nautilus can do it as well
[12:18] <user_> I want to install ubuntu
[12:18] <user_> but I don't know if I should download the server or desktop version
[12:19] <user_> Is there a xwindows wth the server installation?
[12:19] <usound> user_: not completely sure about ubuntu server, but generally they don't have X.
[12:19] <Madpilot> user_, no - get the Desktop ISO
[12:19] <gnomefreak> user_: no server = text only unless you install gui later
[12:20] <user_> oke is that the cd with live cd support?
[12:20] <usound> user_, yes it is with live cd support
[12:20] <user_> the desktop i mean?
[12:20] <user_> I've got the desktop version, but the installation stops at "mounting root filesystem
[12:20] <jing> tank usound!
[12:20] <user_> Why is that?
[12:20] <Keddie> hawkaloogie, how do I do it in nautilus?
[12:20] <jing> i will try it later
[12:21] <mokopil1> Hi, I started the ubuntu lts live cd on my notebook and everything worked, however halfway through the instalation my touchpad stopped working, restart wont help. but a usb mouse works
[12:21] <hawkaloogie> Keddie, Go > CD/DVD Creator
[12:21] <user_> usound: When I insert the live cd, i've got an option: "Install or run live cd" .. how can I select only "install'?
[12:22] <usound> user_, Ive had that problem before
[12:22] <hawkaloogie> Keddie, when you choose "Write to disc" you can choose an image to write to
[12:22] <dsas> user_: You need to run it to install it don't you?
[12:22] <user_> usound: oh oke, could you solve it?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> user_: you cant you need to get the alternative cd for that
[12:22] <Madpilot> user_, you install from inside the LiveCD - there's an Install icon on the desktop
[12:22] <dsas> user_: You run the cd then click on the desktop icon.
[12:22] <usound> user_, I would have prefered text only installation once. You install it in the live cd. Do you have at least 256mb ram. I've had problems getting in the live cd with less.
[12:22] <user_> Madpilot: hmm but it stops at mounting root filesystem
[12:23] <user_> usound: is there a way to use the live cd with text mode installation?
[12:23] <Madpilot> user_, then there's something wrong with your CD - is this one you burned yourself, or a pressed one?
[12:23] <user_> so that it boots with a tesxt mode
[12:23] <user_> Madpilot: when I first install ubuntu 5 and than run that live cd, everything works perfect, so its not the cd i think
[12:23] <usound> user_, as far as I know, you would need to download a seperate ISO
[12:24] <vlt> user_: Can you check the md5sum of your cd/iso?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> user_: get the alternative cd to install in text mode
[12:24] <user_> usound: do you know which iso?
[12:24] <john1234562> Hello I am trying to run windows on a ubuntu as I still need windows and would like to be able to simply click from one to the other instead of rebooting, and as its pointless running linux as a guest OS on windows as that defates the purpose of making it secure, I need to install VMWare workstation 5, I have downloaded the source but dont know what to do with it and converted an rpm to deb with alien but it gives me failed to install package vmw
[12:24] <john1234562> areworkstation_5.5.1-19176_i386.deb, Do you know where I can find a real .deb?
[12:24] <Keddie> hawkaloogie, trying it now, thanks.
[12:24] <user_> gnomefreak: do you know where I can find that?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> the problems with live cd installer have been fixed in 6.06.1
[12:24] <JKoder> Hello is it safe to do : apt-get install kubuntu desktop ?
[12:24] <Keddie> vlt, is mkisofs command line only?
[12:24] <JKoder> i am controlling my pc remotly and i whant to be sure if what i am trying to do is safe
[12:25] <vlt> Keddie: Yes, cmd line.
[12:25] <user_> gnomefreak: is that the "alternate install cd" at the bottom of http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[12:25] <gnomefreak> im looking i had it
[12:25] <user_> ok thanx gnomefreak
[12:25] <john1234562> anyone able to help me with vmware workstation .deb?
[12:26] <Keddie> vlt, I'l read up on the man pages, thx
[12:26] <usound> http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[12:26] <usound> does the alterate cd work as that, gnomefreak?
[12:27] <JKoder>
[12:27] <gnomefreak> user_: yes that is the right link
[12:27] <[Wiebel] > I realy need some help here, I can't get gnump3d to install. dpkg keeps exiting exit status 128
[12:27] <[Wiebel] > and there is no clear error with WHAT goes wrong
[12:28] <user_> thanx gnomefreak downloading it now!
[12:28] <Keddie> john1234562, I ran across a program called parallels that may work for you. Google it
[12:28] <usound> have fun user_
[12:29] <john1234562> keddie thanks, but surly there is a .deb around, I am willing to pay for the licencse thats no issue
[12:29] <john1234562> its downloading and installing it that is the problem keddie
[12:29] <JKoder> \q
[12:30] <mokopil1> I started the ubuntu lts live cd on my notebook and everything worked, however halfway through the instalation my touchpad stopped working, restart wont help. but a usb mouse works. Can anybody help?
[12:31] <usound> mokopill: you said your usb mouse works...
[12:31] <mokopil1> yes
[12:32] <usound> mokopill: so what is holding you up from installing?
[12:32] <_Inc_> Anyone know of some trick to make xubuntu's xfce4 work with non-rectangular X displays? (wmaker/gnome works fine; this is a xfce4 problem)
[12:32] <harmental> hey...i know it is completely out of topic....but...does anybody know a matlab / simulink channel??
[12:33] <mokopil1> I compleated the instalation my problem is that i now have a laptop without a touchpad
[12:33] <_Inc_> *wave*
[12:33] <usound> mokopill, gotcha; it might be xorg. Sounds like it would be.
[12:34] <mokopil1> any idea how to fix it?
[12:35] <itwm27> test
[12:35] <ripper> can someone help me, i just upgraded from breezy to dapper, using apt-get and now my system is broken, i can still login, but cant get x to start, and when it boots, it fails to load restricted drivers
[12:36] <usound> mokopill... getting there
[12:36] <mokopil1> thanks for the help
[12:36] <ripper> i dont see how upgrading could break the system...
[12:37] <Samuli^> hehe, it definately can.
[12:37] <ripper> heh
[12:37] <ripper> how can i fix this?
[12:37] <mokopil1> ill add to that, the update doesent really work, i had to burn myslf an iso and reinstall
[12:37] <ripper> using apt-get ?
[12:37] <mokopil1> it wrecked my ubuntu too
[12:37] <IAskew> ripper, i had exactly the same happen to me, i ended up doing a clean install
[12:38] <ripper> that sucks
[12:38] <ripper> i cant get a 6.06 iso that works
[12:38] <ripper> so i have to use 5.10
[12:38] <Samuli^> ripper for one check out your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver "foo" to vesa or what you think is appropriate.
[12:38] <mokopil1> it does, but hey ever tryed to do hat on windows?
[12:38] <Flannel> ripper: did you, over the course of using breezy, remove any large meta packages? like ubuntu-desktop?
[12:38] <ripper> yeah
[12:38] <mokopil1> ^that
[12:38] <ripper> apt-get did
[12:38] <Samuli^> yea, that might work too.
[12:38] <Flannel> ripper: right.  You need to re-add ubuntu-desktop before upgrading
[12:39] <Samuli^> ripper, try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:40] <ripper> kk
[12:42] <usound> mokopill: it's hard to know exactly where your problem might lie. I think it might be xorg, cause I have had X disable my mouse and enable the usb and the other way around. Are you comfortable working in /etc?
[12:42] <ripper> still when loading restriced drivers at boot it fails
[12:42] <ripper> whY?
[12:42] <ripper> google cant answer it
[12:43] <ripper> ;P
[12:43] <cafuego> Boot in non-splash screen mode, get the actual errors.
[12:43] <mokopil1> yes
[12:44] <mokopil1> u mean editing text files
[12:44] <cafuego> On the boot menu, hit 'e'. Then hit 'e' on the kernel line. Remove "quiet splash" from that line. Then hit 'b' for  averbose bootup and keep your eyes open.
[12:44] <usound> I mean working with system configuration files, mokopill
[12:44] <mokopil1> yes
[12:44] <cafuego> ripper: That ^^ was for you.
[12:45] <ripper> ok
[12:45] <ripper> couldnt i try to find a way to boot another kernel?
[12:45] <park_canada> is the graphic lib for C is already installed when installing eclipse or build-essential ?
[12:46] <park_canada> !build-essential
[12:46] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:46] <cafuego> ripper: Do you have another kernel installed?
[12:46] <park_canada> any1 ?
[12:46] <ripper> it did install another kernel
[12:46] <usound> mokopill: try looking at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and see if you see anything out of the ordinary.
[12:46] <cafuego> Then it ought to be in the boot menu.
[12:46] <cavediver> Hi, is it bad to install syslog-ng insted of syslogd ?
[12:47] <visik7> oh my wishes has been grant
[12:47] <visik7> I hope 6.06.1 has updates
[12:47] <cafuego> visik7: it does, at least 200MB worth.
[12:47] <darkhunter^> oh my...
[12:47] <PsyBard> !java
[12:47] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:48] <thefish> cavediver: afair, ng does some fancier things
[12:48] <mokopil1> id love to tell u if i would know whats out of the ordinary
[12:48] <thefish> cavediver: and they are compatable
[12:48] <visik7> cafuego: yes I see
[12:48] <cavediver> thefish: yes for instance it can log iptables messages separately.
[12:48] <mokopil1> i never seen that file
[12:48] <cavediver> thefish: but it wants to remove ubuntu-minimal ? What's that
[12:48] <usound> mokopill: if you want you could paste the file http://cl1p.net/somewherexorg/
[12:48] <cavediver> also klogd and syslogd ?
[12:49] <cavediver> Would logrotate be affected in any way ?
[12:49] <park_canada> is the graphic lib for C is already installed when installing eclipse or build-essential ?
[12:49] <ripper> ubuntu is a pain in the ass on an hp with 128mb of ram
[12:49] <thefish> cavediver: as long as you keep the logs in the same format, it should be fine
[12:50] <ripper> it seems to work fine on all the other systems i use it on
[12:50] <mokopil1> page saved
[12:51] <usound> ok
[12:51] <GnarusLeo> Hi .. I have a question concerning Amarok and a iPod Nano ...I have covers for all of my albums in amarok, and when I am transfeering from amarok to my iPod, I can even edit the filetag of the mp3 on the ipod and it shows a cover picture ... but on the ipod nothing appears .. what could this be?
[12:51] <cavediver> 128MB ram is not a whole lot. Ram is quite cheap.
[12:52] <LMJ_Work> Hello the chan
[12:52] <usound> mokopill: to me you could use an extra section and see if that works
[12:52] <LMJ_Work> i'm running Dapper Drake 6.06 and i saw 6.06.1 just came out, where i can learn how to upgrade my version ?
[12:52] <mokopil1> and that would be...
[12:53] <tuxub> LMJ_Work, you dont need to upgrade
[12:53] <ripper> anyone here know how i can fix this error with mysql on my openbsd server?
[12:53] <park_canada> !graphic
[12:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about graphic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:53] <ripper>  #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[12:53] <tuxub> LMJ_Work, just sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ... its auto
[12:53] <demor> semctl(*SemID,1,SETVAL,(*shm)->humanos);
[12:53] <thefish> ripper: maybe you are looking in the wrong place for the socket?
[12:53] <park_canada>  is the graphic lib for C is already installed when installing eclipse or build-essential ?
[12:53] <thefish> ripper: you are connecting from localhost?
[12:54] <tuxub> anyone knows how to copy files using rsync and keep the ownership of files?
[12:54] <usound> mokopill: this is a section I got in my xorg.conf. I don't know if it works, but you don't seem to have it. Would you know how to put that in your xorg.conf file? http://cl1p.net/section/
[12:54] <thefish> tuxtux: use -a
[12:54] <tuxub> it doesn't work with -a :(
[12:55] <LMJ_Work> after an update & apt-get dist-upgrade  :  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. ?
[12:55] <thefish> you have the same user on the destination?
[12:55] <tuxub> the files on the server get all the same ownership: nobody nogroup
[12:55] <thefish> it will look for the same username
[12:55] <thefish> otherwise it will just use the same uid
[12:55] <tuxub> im running the rsync daemon as root
[12:55] <tuxub> yes, the same user exists
[12:56] <mokopil1> the sections dont have to be in any particular order do they?
[12:56] <tuxub> anyways, that should not be a problem (the file sohould get the uid)
[12:56] <thefish> tuxtub, run it over ssh - i do rsync -avzx /source user@host:/destination/
[12:56] <usound> mokopill: not that I know
[12:56] <tuxub> the problem is that i will need to do the copy next week (about 70GB)
[12:56] <tuxub> and I want to copy only the changed files
[12:56] <CarNagE__> When running ./configure for a program, it tells me "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[12:56] <mokopil1> k ill try it
[12:57] <dmitri> my 2nd NIC - eth2 shows up in ifocnfig, by firestarter says its not ready. How do i enable it?
[12:57] <CarNagE__> Which package do I have to install to get the X includes?
[12:57] <Flannel> CarNagE__: you can use apt-get to get the build-deps for a package
[12:57] <tuxub> dmitri, do /etc/init.d/networking restart of ifup eth2
[12:57] <CarNagE__> CarNagE__: The program I want to compile isn't available via apt
[12:58] <thefish> tuxtub thats what rsync does
[12:58] <tuxub> dmitri, as root, or use sudo
[12:58] <CarNagE__> Flannel: The program I want to compile isn't available via apt
[12:58] <ripper> would anyone care to tell smacky how to boot ubuntu using a different kernel?
[12:58] <tuxub> thefish, sorry, didn't get you
[12:58] <ripper> cause i think that is the problem
[12:58] <acojlo> do I need sysklogd & klogd
[12:58] <ripper> if he can get it to boot from another kernel i'll ssh in, and change the boot order in grub.conf
[12:58] <tuxtux> CarNagE__: use -a
[12:58] <CarNagE__> tuxtux: ??
[12:58] <dmitri> tuxub: fail
[12:59] <thefish> tuxtub, you said you wanted to only copy changes, thats what rsync does
[12:59] <thefish> you can use rsync over ssh
[12:59] <tuxub> and this will do that?  ssh - i do rsync -avzx /source user@host:/destination
[12:59] <ripper> smacky is actually the one with the ubuntu problem, my ubuntu install works fsckin great
[12:59] <thefish> no rsync -avzx source user@host:/destination uses ssh
[12:59] <tuxub> ok
[12:59] <samu2> ive been wondering what happened to the screensaver settings program in the system menu...
[12:59] <CarNagE__> tuxtux: -a as param for which call?
[01:00] <tuxub> but can i use just ssh with some flag that only copies the changes?
[01:00] <crazy_penguin> Good day all!
[01:00] <ripper> tuxtub what are you trying to do?
[01:00] <samu2> before dapper i used to be able to change the settings for them somehow, but now it doesnt seem to work anymore
[01:00] <usound> mokopill: you will have to restart X for settings to take effect
[01:00] <tuxub> rsync -avz teste alunos@<IP_ADDRESS>::backup/
[01:00] <tuxub> I am transfering 70GB of user data from one server to a new one
[01:00] <mokopil1> k
[01:00] <thefish> tuxtub, you are using rsync which copies changes only, and the format that i showed you, does it over ssh
[01:00] <tuxub> but I will need to copy the new/changed files in a few days
[01:00] <thefish> you get the best of both
[01:01] <mcphail> tuxub: rsync is the tool for that. No doubt at all.
[01:01] <thefish> rsync -avzx source user@host:/destination (this tells rsync to do it over ssh, only changes copied)
[01:01] <thefish> try it
[01:01] <thefish> try it HARD
[01:01] <panos> Guys I am trying to fix my Xgl and on #Xgl channel, no one answers me...
[01:01] <easytiger> how the feck do i sign up for http://ubuntuforums.org/ i can't find the fecking link anyplace
[01:01] <tuxub> thefish, is this what you say: ssh - i do rsync -avzx /source user@host:/destination ???
[01:01] <cavediver> I prefer rdiff-backup over rsync
[01:01] <panos> could you please help me ?
[01:01] <Flannel> panos: try #ubuntu-xgl
[01:02] <cavediver> which is rdiff+version history
[01:02] <thefish> tuxtub, can you see what i just typed?
[01:02] <tuxub> cavediver, does it keep ownership?
[01:02] <panos> ok Flannel
[01:02] <cavediver> tuxub: yes
[01:02] <ych> i can play the files on my windows network with totem, but not with "good" players like VLC or amarok... anyone know the reason for this?
[01:02] <tuxub> thefish, i saw it but it doesnt keep the ownership!
[01:02] <cavediver> tuxub: you can use it to backup / if you want to.
[01:02] <tuxub> i will try it
[01:02] <ripper> ych > what kind of errors are you getting?
[01:02] <dmitri> my 2nd NIC - eth2 does not start up for networking, but looks fine in ifconfig. can someone help out please
[01:02] <ych> it just doesn't start at all
[01:03] <thefish> tuxtub, from man rsync: -a, --archive               archive mode; same as -rlptgoD (no -H); -o, --owner                 preserve owner (root only)
[01:03] <acojlo> my boot process breaks usplash just before "setting tty" and I see text console with "starting gdm" when it goes to gui
[01:03] <ych> like itll open the file but not play
[01:03] <cavediver> tuxub: it's great. Then you can restore files from yesterday or a week ago or whatever.
[01:03] <cavediver> As it keeps inkremental kopies of changes
[01:03] <ych> but if i copy the file to my machine and play it locally, itll work with vlc
[01:03] <ripper> sounds like to me you need the guide im trying to find for ya :P
[01:03] <tuxub> thefish, I know that, i saw the man, but it isnt working :(
[01:03] <thefish> what user are you running rsync from on the source and destination?
[01:04] <tuxub> source: root, dest: root
[01:04] <ych> cool thanks
[01:04] <tuxub> files on dest get nobody:nogroup
[01:04] <ripper> try this guide
[01:04] <ripper>  #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[01:04] <ripper> shit
[01:04] <ripper> hang on
[01:04] <thefish> strange, do the uids match? NOT usernames
[01:04] <ych> hehe
[01:04] <ripper> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-a57167a3ce442dc52d9b05e46a14503330d4e970
[01:04] <ripper> there ya go
[01:04] <ych> umm
[01:04] <ripper> im trying to fix that error on my openbsd server
[01:04] <ripper> if that dont work , hang on
[01:04] <roy_lp> cau u tell me hoq to install the graphic library so i caN USE IT WITH c ?
[01:05] <roy_lp> sorry for the caps
[01:05] <neutrinomass> roy_lp: What graphic library ?
[01:05] <Netcad>  anyone know how to lock a thread in pthread?
[01:05] <ripper> or look around here @ ych http://www.google.com/search?q=streaming+media+with+vlc+%2B+ubuntu&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[01:06] <ych> thanks ripper
[01:06] <roy_lp> neutrinomass: the C graphic liberary -OFF file maybe ?..
[01:06] <ych> well, i can play the mp3s, but just not on a server
[01:06] <ych> when i copy them to my machine they play perfectly
[01:06] <tuxub> the uids match
[01:06] <neutrinomass> roy_lp: There are various libraries floating around, depending on what you want to do. This is more of a coding question though, than an #ubuntu question ...
[01:06] <roy_lp> neutrinomass: how can i search thorugh the libs aviliable? espically graphic
[01:06] <panos> panos@panos-linuxmachine:~$ cgwd --replace & [1]  7523
[01:06] <panos> panos@panos-linuxmachine:~$
[01:06] <panos> ** (cgwd:7523): WARNING **: Choose same size glow images for active and inactive windows.
[01:06] <panos> Inactive glow image is scaled for now.
[01:06] <ych> what id like to do is use the media library of amarok
[01:07] <panos> If anyone could help me....
[01:07] <roy_lp> neutrinomass: ok
[01:07] <ych> and have all the files on my fileserver in it
[01:07] <acojlo> do I need 3 log daemons ?
[01:07] <tuxub> cavediver, rdiff-backup examples, can you give me one to test this?
[01:07] <ych> well, i found something on goole
[01:07] <neutrinomass> panos: Please don't paste in the channel, use pastebin ...
[01:07] <ych> google
[01:07] <freebuntu> Good Morning
[01:07] <ripper> google == god
[01:07] <ych> it says it has something to do with the fact that the programs use different librarys
[01:07] <freebuntu> Panos?  I need some help in compiling alsa on dapper. anyone with experience in compiling kernel modules on dapper who can help?
[01:10] <ripper> trying enabling nfs, thats what that guide is saying
[01:10] <cavediver> tuxub: what do you want to do? Sync over the network ?
[01:10] <neutrinomass> panos: You shouldn't be pasting in the channel!
[01:10] <tuxub> yes
[01:10] <roy_lp> neutrinomass : i found a zip file of what i need. can u tell me where to o[y the files to ?
[01:10] <ych> isnt nfs serverside though?
[01:10] <neutrinomass> !pastebin > panos
[01:10] <ripper> apt-get broke smacky's ubuntu install
[01:10] <tuxub> yep, it works local and saves the ownership with rdiff-backup
[01:10] <freebuntu> do you need to compile it in, or have you followed the guides?  Try installing the library you want through synaptic ...
[01:11] <freebuntu> it was a thing for me to look at, neutrino, is that ok????
[01:11] <ych> nfs is a thing i'd need to install on the fileserver right? because the thing is, my fileserver is a windows machine
[01:11] <panos> !pastebin > panos@panos-linuxmachine:~$ cgwd --replace & [1]  7523
[01:11] <panos> panos@panos-linuxmachine:~$
[01:11] <panos> ** (cgwd:7523): WARNING **: Choose same size glow images for active and inactive windows.
[01:11] <panos> Inactive glow image is scaled for now.
[01:11] <freebuntu> well, how can you make the glow pkgs the same size, is that the ???
[01:11] <ych> im a fresh converter
[01:11] <ripper> im guessing that would be correct @ ych
[01:11] <panos> How can I use pastebin >
[01:11] <panos> ?
[01:12] <ripper> ych why are you running a windows server? thats just insanity
[01:12] <roy_lp> neutrinomass: its from my course so its good..
[01:12] <ych> because i only started using linux 1 week ago
[01:12] <ych> and its kinda a converted old rig
[01:12] <ripper> all my servers == openbsd + special hardening script + hairyeyeball
[01:12] <cavediver> tuxub, either you can use some fancy ssh with rdiff-backup or you can mount a sshfs and run as if it was locally.
[01:12] <smacky> how do i use ubuntu >?
[01:12] <neutrinomass> panos: Just visit the link ubotu gave you! Paste and give the URL to whomever requests it. Just don't keep spamming the channel.
[01:12] <ych> yeah, i wouldnt mind converting to a proper os
[01:12] <Flannel> smacky: just like you'd use any other OS.
[01:12] <roy_lp> neutrinomass: also couldnt find it
[01:12] <ych> which is why i started using linux on this machine
[01:13] <tuxub> cavediver, sshfs???
[01:13] <ripper> i've been using *nix for about 6 years now
[01:13] <ych> but at the moment the filesystems are keeping me from doing it
[01:13] <ripper> but yeah, get comfy with it
[01:13] <ych> cause i have bout a half a terabyte stored on NTFS
[01:13] <neutrinomass> roy_lp: Then maybe it is a windows library or something like that ?
[01:13] <ripper> back everything up to dvd.....
[01:13] <thefish> ych: you want to make a file server?
[01:14] <roxlu> hi all!
[01:14] <roxlu> is tar a package to extract .rar files?
[01:14] <freebuntu> this chann sucks anyway, I was on bbses back 20 years ago, just like this, scroll scroll,  isn't there a ubuntu chat gui that I could split off conversations onto diff windows without having to read the entire scroll of one window?
[01:14] <ripper> ych here ya go
[01:14] <ripper> http://www.google.com/search?q=nfs+%2B+windows&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[01:14] <thefish> ych: if you need stuff from a disk local to your new linux box, you can mount ntfs, and copy
[01:14] <freebuntu> THAT would be a golden program
[01:14] <thefish> ych: otherwise you can just copy if off the same as you would from a windows system
[01:15] <ripper> yeah but i wouldnt use ntfs support on ubuntu
[01:15] <ripper> or linux in general
[01:15] <roy_lp> neutrinomass: its linux
[01:15] <thefish> read only is fine
[01:15] <ripper> ych > better yet use this http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324055/en-us
[01:15] <roy_lp> neutrinomass: its called mesh_view
[01:15] <neutrinomass> roy_lp: Maybe it's the library code ?
[01:15] <ripper> its an official microshit guide
[01:15] <IAskew> rox
[01:15] <DBAlex> hi
[01:15] <smacky> rip do i really have to install that all over again ......my ssi check well be here befor this works
[01:15] <IAskew> roxlu, u need unrar
[01:15] <DBAlex> would there be a reason why ubuntu cant resize my hard disk?
[01:15] <roxlu> thanx!
[01:16] <ripper> smacky > no, ill fix it when i can get over there
[01:16] <ych> sry i was afk, back now
[01:16] <freebuntu> hey ripper has ANYONE got a safe ntfs=linux file mover yet? got a lot of win2k hard drives, sigh
[01:16] <IAskew> yx
[01:16] <ych> yeah i heard linux support of ntfs is kinda bad
[01:16] <ripper> hmmm
[01:16] <ripper> yeah its buggy
[01:16] <ych> and as a matter of fact i allready started burning to dvd
[01:16] <roy_lp> neutrinomass: what do u meN?
[01:16] <cavediver> tuxub: yes, sshfs is lite the neatest thing ever. You can mount remote directores using ssh insted of samba and nfs crap!
[01:16] <ych> got about 10 of em down
[01:16] <ripper> freebuntu there are a few ways to move it
[01:16] <thefish> ych: for write access, its bad, for read only its fine
[01:16] <krimzon> i saw a page for one that could use the actual windows dlls for ntfs
[01:16] <ych> but that leaves me with 90 more to go
[01:16] <DBAlex> Also Ubuntu Dapper Drake crashes on my machine... It crashes when starting the X Server, My machine is: AMD 64 3000, 512mb RAM, Radeon 9600se, 80GB hard drive
[01:16] <DBAlex> please help!
[01:16] <ripper> freebuntu, use sftp over ssh from the windows box [01:17] <neutrinomass> roy_lp: As in the code of the library, not the executable (you're doing a computer science course right? )
[01:17] <DBAlex> it doesnt even start even in safe graphics mode
[01:17] <DBAlex> IE: it doesnt even install
[01:17] <DBAlex> HELP!
[01:17] <freebuntu> SAFEST  it can be techy, I'll understand, but don't want to lose anything
[01:17] <tuxub> cavediver, :D that looks like heaven, i am checking it out
[01:17] <ych> i spose burning the files would be good anyway
[01:17] <ych> that way i have a safe copy
[01:17] <thefish> ych: what exactly do you want to do? copy files from windows to the new linux box?
[01:17] <DBAlex> PLEASE!!  Thanks a lot
[01:18] <Flannel> DBAlex: Which version are you trying to install
[01:18] <Flannel> !language
[01:18] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:18] <ripper> get a cheapo machine for *nix
[01:18] <cavediver> http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html
[01:18] <ripper> if your that limited
[01:18] <DBAlex> Flannel: Ubuntu Dapper Drake 6.06
[01:18] <paulus> DBAlex: what is it your need help with
[01:18] <ych> huh?
[01:18] <Flannel> DBAlex: right, but which arch?
[01:18] <thefish> ych: i would be careful of that. make a new box, copy all the files off via smb or whatever, then bring the new one up as a file server (samba does that)
[01:18] <DBAlex> Also Ubuntu Dapper Drake crashes on my machine... It crashes when starting the X Server, My machine is: AMD 64 3000, 512mb RAM, Radeon 9600se, 80GB hard drive
[01:18] <ripper> wow, i have a bot telling me how to speak...
[01:18] <ripper> heh
[01:18] <ych> yeah but the problem is
[01:18] <DBAlex> Flannel: X86
[01:19] <ych> i cant afford to get another 500GB of HDD to copy to
[01:19] <Flannel> ripper: no, you have a Code of Conduct telling you what isn't allowed.
[01:19] <DBAlex> and ubuntu 5.10 worked perfect!
[01:19] <ych> i'd like to stick to my current 3 drives
[01:19] <cavediver> tuxub: apt-get install fuse-module fuse-utils I think
[01:19] <ych> and just convert the FS on them somehow
[01:19] <paulus> did you look at the xserver error?
[01:19] <DBAlex> But now when I try to install 5.10 I cant resize my hard disk to install it
[01:19] <freebuntu> dbalex, did you do a dpkg-reconfigure yet?
[01:19] <thefish> ych: making a file linux file server that uses ntfs storage is asking for trouble
[01:19] <Flannel> DBAlex: You might try downloadingthe *brand new* 6.06.1, it's got an updated (read: bugfixes) installer and stuff
[01:19] <ych> i know
[01:19] <DBAlex> Ok
[01:19] <thefish> ych: you will need to format those drives
[01:19] <ych> thats why im trying not to use ntfs
[01:20] <ripper> did you see the microsoft guide i posted?
[01:20] <DBAlex> I cant even run the disk
[01:20] <thefish> but while you are doing that, you have no file server
[01:20] <ych> i just need to get the files off somehow
[01:20] <ripper> ych....
[01:20] <DBAlex> wont even boot to the Ubuntu menu to install
[01:20] <ripper> pm me
[01:20] <DBAlex> So i cant reconfigure
[01:20] <DBAlex> I would have tried it
[01:20] <DBAlex> unless I can crash back to a shell on the cd?
[01:20] <thefish> ych: if you dont have the space anywhere else, then you need to use DVDs
[01:20] <DBAlex> maybe u can cos its a debian installer
[01:20] <paulus> what... so you can't even boot off the cd?
[01:20] <DBAlex> Well I can
[01:21] <paulus> but it crashes?
[01:21] <petsei>  /lave #ubuntu
[01:21] <roy_lp> neutrinomass: can u help me ? i need t know where to copy the c and h files
[01:21] <Flannel> DBAlex: try the new installer.  Or at least, start the download ;)
[01:21] <DBAlex> But when the brown screen with the cursor comes up it stays for a few seconds then locks up
[01:21] <petsei>  /leave #ubuntu
[01:21] <ych> ok guess that means its time to go on newegg and get a couple 50s of dvds
[01:21] <Flannel> petsei: /part
[01:21] <DBAlex> in safe graphics and normal graphics
[01:21] <ripper> umm no.
[01:21] <ych> pity the shippings a killer
[01:21] <ripper> ych
[01:21] <cavediver> tuxub: othwewise you can invoke rdiff-backup with some ssh stuff to get it to transfer over ssh
[01:21] <ych> ya?
[01:21] <roy_lp> i found only where to copy the h file: /usr/includes/
[01:21] <DBAlex> ok Flannel
[01:21] <petsei>  /part #ubuntu
[01:21] <ripper> did you see the M$ guide i posted for you?
[01:21] <GnarusLeo> Hi .. I have a question concerning Amarok and a iPod Nano ...I have covers for all of my albums in amarok, and when I am transfeering from amarok to my iPod, I can even edit the filetag of the mp3 on the ipod and it shows a cover picture ... but on the ipod nothing appears .. what could this be?
[01:21] <paulus> gosh... and your system works fine under winblows?
[01:21] <Evz> hello
[01:21] <Flannel> petsei: no space infront of it
[01:21] <ych> i clicked it but havent looked yet
[01:21] <Evz> i need to install gstreamer
[01:21] <ych> lemme look at it
[01:21] <DBAlex> paulus: yeah, and Ubuntu 5.10!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:22] <DBAlex> I love ubuntu too
[01:22] <smacky> k
[01:22] <ripper> ubuntu loves me :D
[01:22] <Flannel> DBAlex: why don't you just upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06?
[01:22] <thefish> ripper: it seems the problem is that there is nowhere to copy the files to... so it does not matter how they are copied off, there is no box big enough to take all the files QED
[01:22] <DBAlex> This release has annoyed me thoygh
[01:22] <DBAlex> Flannel: LOL thats what im trying to do!!!
[01:22] <DBAlex> ill download the new version
[01:22] <DBAlex> brb
[01:22] <paulus> ok
[01:22] <tuxub> cavediver, ok, thanks for all your help and wisdom :)
[01:22] <ych> ok thanks i bookmarked it
[01:22] <paulus> then dist-upgrade
[01:22] <ych> ill look at it later, but now i got a driving test
[01:22] <DBAlex> thanks for your help!
[01:22] <cavediver> tuxub: does it work now *?
[01:22] <paulus> GL
[01:22] <ych> thanks for the help sofar
[01:23] <Flannel> DBAlex: er, wait.  if you're upgrading, you shouldnt be running an installer
[01:23] <ych> thx
[01:23] <DBAlex> im noy
[01:23] <DBAlex> *not
[01:23] <Joshier> I'm running ubuntu in vmware now, does anyone know any cool/fun apps to checkout?
[01:23] <tuxub> working on it :)
[01:23] <DBAlex> I dont have any ubuntu installed atm
[01:23] <DBAlex> cos I reformatted my PC...
[01:23] <paulus> yeah, he's going from a fresh
[01:23] <DBAlex> Well theres windows on the HD
[01:23] <paulus> which is why i'm suprised it's crashing on the livecd
[01:23] <jeffery> anyone come across documentation for LVM based installation ?
[01:23] <Flannel> DBAlex: alright, try 6.06.1 then.  If that doesn't work, try 5.10 > 6.06 via upgrade
[01:23] <smacky> I love windows on hp
[01:24] <paulus> yeah, do what flannel said!
[01:24] <DBAlex> but im trying to resize it and install ubuntu 5.10 then upgrade to dapper from the menu but I cant resize my hard drive
[01:24] <mcphail> paulus: there was a guide recently on debian-administration.org
[01:24] <DBAlex> ok
[01:24] <tuxub> cavediver, Package fuse-module is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:24] <DBAlex> (brb)
[01:24] <GnarusLeo> hey, I see ... even jet-fighters flying over norway as we speak
[01:24] <DBAlex> the download will take forever
[01:24] <paulus> did you unmount the drive before resizing
[01:24] <Flannel> DBAlex: ah, well, there are GParted liveCDs and stuff you can get too
[01:24] <DBAlex> so ill be back later
[01:24] <cavediver> tuxub: strange
[01:24] <Evz> somebody help me with gstreamer
[01:25] <r0wd3> Hey all
[01:25] <ripp3r666> Evz what seems to be the problem?
[01:25] <paulus> a guid for what mcphail
[01:25] <DBAlex> bye
[01:25] <Evz> this is my first time using ubuntu
[01:25] <TrendKi||> if i just keep my system up to date using dapper repositories, will i have 6.06.1?
[01:26] <Evz> and i want to install Gstreamer to hear mp3s
[01:26] <Madpilot> TrendKi||, yes
[01:26] <TrendKi||> sweet, thanks
[01:26] <paulus> yes... make sure to dist-upgrade
[01:26] <Jhair> Evz: you don't need gstreamer to hear mp3
[01:26] <Evz> what do i need?
[01:26] <TrendKi||> I will
[01:27] <mcphail> paulus: sorry - directed my prev comment to wrong nick
[01:27] <paulus> heh, thought so!
[01:27] <mcphail> :)
[01:28] <Jhair> Evz: you need the codecs and a player application
[01:28] <GnarusLeo> Anyone got any idea why my ipod does not display the covers given by amarok? If I edit one of the tags of the files ON the iPod in amarok, it displays the picture .. but the ipod itself doesnt ..
[01:28] <Evz> which codecs?
[01:28] <azcazandco> timalot: can I borrow you again for 2 secs?
[01:28] <timalot> azcazandco: ok
[01:28] <Evz> I heard that Gstreamer are the codecs for that
[01:28] <freebuntu> paulus, dist-upgrade, is that from terminal or a repository or please explain
[01:29] <azcazandco> timalot: thanks
[01:29] <Jhair> Evz: yes gstreamer includes the codecs, but gstreamer is bloated and buggy. I would not recommend gstreamer for daily use.
[01:29] <DBAlex> hi
[01:29] <DBAlex> one last question
[01:29] <timalot> azcazandco: just make sure u include my name in the message so gaim notifies me
[01:29] <DBAlex> whats ubuntu alternate edition?
[01:29] <azcazandco> wanna go to ubunto-xgl?
[01:29] <Evz> what do you recomend me?
[01:29] <freebuntu> jhair, got a recommendation TO use???
[01:29] <paulus> freebuntu: it's from the terminal "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:29] <faddat> does anyone have any clue how to set up an ad-hoc mode wireless network with Ubuntu, sharing my DSL connection from my wired card (I have a supported wireless card)
[01:30] <paulus> but i don't think you really ned to do it
[01:30] <cavediver> tuxub: seems like fuse-module is a dummy package for a fuse-aktivated kernel...
[01:30] <freebuntu> dbalex, it's a configurable for oem and also takes less ram to run
[01:30] <paulus> DBAlex:  the alternative is like the old skool installer- not a live cd
[01:30] <freebuntu> better on slower machines too
[01:30] <DBAlex> ok
[01:30] <DBAlex> kk
[01:30] <paulus> they replaced the livecd to be the normal installer
[01:30] <DBAlex> im downloading the desktop for now
[01:30] <Jhair> Evz, freebuntu: the Xine codecs (libxine-main1 package) are pretty stable. The stability of totem-xine against totem-gstreamer is widely recognized.
[01:31] <paulus> ok, hope it goes well
[01:31] <DBAlex> On the new installer u run it from the desktop right?
[01:31] <DBAlex> thats crap imho
[01:31] <timalot> azcazandco: ok
[01:31] <DBAlex> :P
[01:31] <azcazandco> timalot: whanna meet me in #ubuntu-xgl?
[01:31] <tuxub> cavediver, so, maybe i need to reboot to load the kernel module?
[01:31] <DBAlex> ok thnx
[01:31] <azcazandco> ah sorry
[01:31] <DBAlex> im at 1% done now LOL
[01:31] <DBAlex> im on 512kbps internet
[01:31] <freebuntu> thanks paulus... hey when would one use gksudo as opposed to just sudo?
[01:31] <mytruehero> I ran a big group of system updates that showed up in the notification area of my panel, and now my sound doesn't seem to work (it did before the updates). I'm totally new to all this. What can I do?
[01:32] <DBAlex> mytruehero: sound in which apps?
[01:32] <cavediver> tuxub: you just have to install a fuse-enables kernel. If you have that already you wont need fuse-module. I think fuse-utils should do the trick.
[01:32] <freebuntu> thx, evz
[01:32] <DBAlex> or system wide?
[01:32] <paulus> freebuntu: i'm not too sure, gksu is good for gui programs
[01:32] <paulus> or gksudo
[01:32] <cavediver> I'm not sure how to check if you have fuse compiled in or not, perhaps someone else knows
[01:32] <freebuntu> Knapper!!!
[01:33] <mytruehero> DBAlex: Good question... let me doublecheck
[01:33] <DBAlex> btw, does Ubuntu 5.10 still have Firefox 0.7?
[01:33] <DBAlex> or whatever the old version was?
[01:33] <DBAlex> I hope not
[01:33] <DBAlex> :(
[01:33] <DBAlex> not 5.10 sorry
[01:33] <DBAlex> 6.06
[01:33] <paulus> DBAlex: i think it's at least firefox 1.3
[01:33] <DBAlex> ok
[01:33] <DBAlex> good
[01:33] <faddat> dbalex: it's the lastest...
[01:33] <faddat> 1.5.5
[01:33] <faddat> er 1.5.05
[01:34] <DBAlex> lol im sick of manually installing Firefox latest
[01:34] <DBAlex> ok
[01:34] <DBAlex> :)
[01:34] <DBAlex> Thnx
[01:34] <faddat> and it auto-updates :)
[01:34] <faddat> oh no problem man
[01:34] <DBAlex> kk
[01:34] <cavediver> no no
[01:34] <paulus> DBAlex: you know what your doing to dist-upgrade from 5.04 then?
[01:34] <DBAlex> brb
[01:34] <cavediver> Firefox 1.3 doesn't ecist
[01:34] <paulus> yeah, i thought that as i typed it
[01:34] <paulus> lol
[01:34] <DBAlex> paulus: yeah, ive been using Ubuntu for about 1.5 years
[01:34] <DBAlex> :P
[01:34] <DBAlex> off and on
[01:34] <paulus> oh right. cool :)
[01:34] <mytruehero> DBAlex: Firefox for sure. I tried to play an mp3, but I need to download some codecs first, I guess (just installed Ubuntu for the first time last night). It might be system-wide, as I don't seem to be hearing any sound at all
[01:35] <DBAlex> ok
[01:35] <faddat> Anyone know if the KDE wifi config apps are easier/better than the GNOME wifi apps?
[01:35] <DBAlex> ill let the people here help you, I gotta go for dinner now, you might need to install w32codecs
[01:35] <DBAlex> or something like that
[01:35] <DBAlex> (brb)
[01:35] <DBAlex> or gstreamer plugins
[01:35] <freebuntu> how does one list all the #ubuntu"something" channels?
[01:35] <orbitalGolly> hey guys. trying to get tomcat5 running. should be a simple job of installing from synaptic, and going to localhost:8080 right? I've done a sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat5 status and it seems to be all ok. but I get an "unable to connect error." anyone got any ideas?
[01:36] <Evz> i don't know how install a program
[01:36] <Evz> Or run from Root
[01:36] <faddat> I'm trying to set up an ad-hoc Internet share for my neighbor and it's well, hellish.
[01:36] <rulus> Evz, which programN
[01:37] <Evz> LimeWire and Xine
[01:37] <freebuntu> what's a tomcat5? grins
[01:37] <Jhair> orbitalGolly: check the port being used in the server.xml configuration file
[01:37] <freebuntu> sudo apt-get install limewire totem-xine
[01:37] <rulus> Evz, Xine via sudo apt-get install xine
[01:37] <freebuntu> or even sudo aptitude limewire totem-xine
[01:37] <mytruehero> Any ideas as to why my sound might have stopped working after doing a bunch of system updates?
[01:38] <IAskew> i dont think limewire is in the repos
[01:38] <freebuntu> anyone like aptitude???
[01:38] <Ych-away> i know someone who does
[01:38] <Evz> it says E: Couldn't find package xine
[01:38] <orbitalGolly> Jhair: yeah. I thought that may be it. It doesn't mention anything about 8080.
[01:38] <Ych-away> he keeps telling me to use that instead of apt-get
[01:38] <freebuntu> mytrue, from some things I've read, you have to reinstall sound ie alsamixer or whatever. Not sure, but I had same prob
[01:38] <rulus> Evz, totem-xine :)
 look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  thats everything you need to know about codecs and which packages to install
[01:38] <cavediver> tuxub: maybe you have it there already, try connect using sshfs server:/dir local_mount_point
[01:39] <edward> anybody installed ubuntu from USB stick?
[01:39] <freebuntu> evz, it's totem-xine  isn't it guys?
[01:39] <NineTeen67Comet> hi all .. what do I need to apt-get install in order to compile applications? Isn't it like issential-items or something?
[01:39] <YoussefAssad> installed from no, but I intend to install it _to_ a memory stick if possible :)
[01:39] <paulus> to get win32 codecs :
[01:39] <paulus> wget -c http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[01:39] <paulus> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[01:39] <orbitalGolly> Jhair: so I'm guessing I need to manually add a line or something? not sure why that sorta detail isn't supplied by default.. ?
[01:39] <Evz> It says E: Package totem-xine has no installation candidate
[01:39] <cavediver> YoussefAssad: it can be done, but it's a bit of work...
[01:39] <Jhair> orbitalGolly: uh? That's strange. AFAIK (Tomcat 5.0.28) the port is defined there (inside <Connector port="..." ...> tags).
[01:40] <freebuntu> Default! that's a good one! HAHAHAHAHA
[01:40] <YoussefAssad> cavediver: got damnsmalllinux on my stick, and it's just too cool
[01:40] <cavediver> YoussefAssad: http://www.usbuntu.com/
[01:40] <Masticore> Is there a program that let me send and recive files via bluetooth ?
[01:40] <NineTeen67Comet> I've got an application that goes off (crazy) when I try to make .. is there something ubuntu needs before it'll make / make install etc?
[01:40] <cavediver> Masticore: gnome-bluetooth i thi nk
[01:40] <YoussefAssad> cavediver: nifty! Thanks
[01:40] <Tarandus> Hello
[01:40] <Masticore> cavediver: that lets me only recive, I think
[01:40] <freebuntu> evz that's because 6.06 has it built in. are you using linux-image 26.46?
[01:40] <Jhair> Evz: probably you don't have the universe repositories in your sources.list configuration file.
[01:40] <Tarandus> I have lots of problems with dosemu
[01:41] <Evz> I don't know...
[01:41] <Tarandus> It says I don't have the dosemu VGA font installed and claims that I'm running remote X
[01:41] <cavediver> YoussefAssad: Works ok in breezy, not updated for dapper I think
[01:41] <Tarandus> I'm running local X and I have the font installed, and DISPLAY=:0.0
[01:41] <Evz> How can i know that? how do I activate Universe Repositories?
[01:42] <freebuntu> I don't think it's the repos, cuz I just got the same message, and I do have them.
[01:42] <freebuntu> but I think it's just he needs a kernal reload of the new ones.
[01:42] <Evz> how can i get that?
[01:42] <orbitalGolly> Jhair: mm.. indeed strange. that line isn't mentioned anywhere. I'll try and re-install
[01:42] <Jhair> Evz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[01:42] <rajesh> hello everyone. I want to enable the application key in my keyboard (en_us keyboard with win keys). I selected 105-key PC keyboard both in xserver  and in gnome configuration. Any ideas please?
[01:42] <freebuntu> evz, go to synaptic, search for linux-image,  install the latest one, then later completely uninstall everything but 686 26 46
[01:43] <Tarandus> Dosemu also claims that X support is not compiled in, even when I try running it as xdosemu
[01:43] <Jhair> orbitalGolly: yes, or there is a problem with the installation or the tomcat packages in ubuntu are totally broken (I use the .tar.gz files from the apache site directly)
[01:44] <IAskew> evz, if u google 'easy ubuntu' u will get a program that will update your repositories and, i think, will install totem-xine for you
[01:44] <gnomefreak> !easyubuntu
[01:44] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[01:44] <deep__> .
[01:44] <roxlu> whats that name of the developers packaga again? ..
[01:44] <rixxon> build-essential
[01:44] <roxlu> oh oke thanx!
[01:45] <freebuntu> isn't automatix better than easybuntu
[01:45] <bluesign> hi, is it possible for me to enable remote desktop on a windows server from my ubuntu/
[01:45] <IAskew> i think so freebuntu but lots disagree
[01:45] <freebuntu> I've tried them both, easy is easier but automatix is more fullfeatured
[01:45] <IAskew> agreed
[01:45] <Blinker> whats the generally preferred application for CD/DVD burning?
[01:46] <orbitalGolly> Jhair: yeah. looks broken. i reinstalled and there is no server.xml file at all anymore. I'll install from the site itself I guess. pity.. i like synaptic doing everything for me!
[01:46] <newbuntie> does anyone have a spare gmail invite?
[01:46] <Jhair> Blinker: nautilus?
[01:46] <orbitalGolly> Jhair: thanks
[01:46] <gnomefreak> newbuntie: yes email me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and ill send you one
[01:46] <rixxon> newbuntie, sure
[01:47] <freebuntu> gnomebaker???
[01:47] <Jhair> orbitalGolly: I see. I had very bad experience with java packages in Debian and Ubuntu. The best way (at list for me) is to install the original apache packages in the directory you want.
[01:47] <Blinker> hah, imagine that.
[01:47] <freebuntu> I heard you could do cat> something and burn files directly???
[01:47] <bluesign> is there a way to access remote windows registry from linux?
[01:48] <rixxon> what is that, anyway?
[01:48] <freebuntu> ssh with winscp?
[01:48] <rixxon> i think he means other way around, freebuntu
[01:48] <sladen> wine regedit ?
[01:48] <YoussefAssad> or vnc, if the pipe's fat enough
[01:48] <Jhair> bluesign: use rdesktop to connect to the remote windows and start regedit from there.
[01:48] <bluesign> jhair: i will enable remote dektop by changing registry :)
[01:48] <J_P> hi all
[01:48] <rixxon> or net start telnet and use command line registry tools
[01:49] <ianw_> Hi All
[01:49] <bluesign> sladden: I will try wine regedit
[01:49] <toxicfume> hi all
[01:50] <tuxub> cavediver, I got sshfs to work, thanks :D
[01:50] <ianw_> Does anyone have saslauthd running?
[01:50] <freebuntu> is tomcat5 an apache server app or what?
[01:50] <OsirisX11> hi all! my x crashes after i update my kernel from 386 to k7, i have an asus kv8-x w/athlon 3400+ 64 on dapper
[01:50] <toxicfume> I'm using Kubuntu, but i also want the default Gnome WM of the original Ubuntu, what packages do i need to get?
[01:50] <cavediver> tuxub: sweet. Is it nice u think ?
[01:50] <tuxub> It way better than nice
[01:50] <gnomefreak> toxicfume: install ubuntu-desktop
[01:50] <tuxub> i will copy the files with rdiff-backup
[01:51] <cavediver> It's a good tool
[01:51] <bluesign> sladden: I can run regedit, but connect to remote reg. is disabled :(
[01:51] <cavediver> tuxub: What did you do to get it working ?
[01:51] <ianw_> Is there an unbuntu security channel does anyone know?
[01:51] <tuxub> cavediver, this: http://www.archivesat.com/Debian_users_support/thread717763.htm
[01:51] <freebuntu> yes please, tuxub, apt-get install sshfs I assume first
[01:52] <toxicfume> gnomefreak: thanks, how do i setup the display manager then?
[01:52] <tuxub> cavediver, it compiled the module and then got working
[01:52] <longwave> ianw_: i am running saslauthd, though on a debian box, but it shouldn't be too different :)
[01:52] <OsirisX11> anyone have suggestions on how to make it so my x doesnt crash after a kernel upgrade?
[01:52] <tuxub> now I discovered that I have a new problem :P
[01:52] <gnomefreak> toxicfume: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm     that will make it use gdm instead of kdm
[01:52] <tuxub> the machine has a 3ware raid card
[01:52] <OsirisX11> using nvidia nonfree with geforce 5200
[01:52] <Jhair> OsirisX11: it shouldn't.
[01:52] <r0wd3> Im very new to Ubuntu please help, None of my Jpg images work, ubuntu wont let me open them, through any application.
[01:53] <tuxub> i downloaded a special version of debian that works with the hardware raid
[01:53] <Evz> it doesn't intall
[01:53] <moi> Anyone here understand the DD command?
[01:53] <tuxub> I tried to upgrade the kernel (the default is -386) to a K8-smp and the machine stops to boot :(
[01:53] <OsirisX11> tuxtux: same problem here
[01:53] <tuxub> it doesnt have the kernel drivers for the raid cards ?
[01:54] <tuxub> OsirisX11, do you managed to overcome that?
[01:54] <freebuntu> rowd3, I would install automatix
[01:54] <OsirisX11> tuxsub: no that's why i'm here
[01:54] <tuxub> :)
[01:54] <tuxub> great :P
[01:54] <moi> Can anyone help me with the DD unix/linux command?
[01:55] <tuxub> it's kinda frustrating having a dual AMD64 machine using a 386 kernel
[01:55] <longwave> moi what are you trying to do with it?
[01:55] <OsirisX11> yea i have an amd64 machine too
[01:55] <r0wd3> freebuntu: I havent heard of that befor, what is automatix
[01:55] <OsirisX11> r0wd3: ppst google it
[01:55] <moi> longwave, am trying to copy the first partition from sda1 directly to sda2
[01:55] <freebuntu> moi, you've done man dd???
[01:55] <Whyvas> r0wd3, open up firefox, goto to google and find out
[01:55] <Whyvas> beat me to it.
[01:55] <OsirisX11> ;)
[01:56] <freebuntu> rowd3, from terminal:  sudo apt-get install automatix
[01:56] <rulus> moi: dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sda2 ?
[01:56] <moi> thx rulus!, can anyone confirm?
[01:56] <OsirisX11> so anyone have any idea why both me and tuxub's boxes are crashing after installing k7 from default 386? we both have amd64 processors
[01:56] <freebuntu> however you have to have the beerforkid repos,   also see www.getautomatix.com
[01:56] <longwave> moi: i think what rulus said should work
[01:57] <longwave> moi: the only problem i can see is if /dev/sda1 doesn't return EOF when you hit the end of the partition, but i imagine it does
[01:57] <tuxub> i think we need a special kernel with the 3ware module
[01:57] <moi> thankyou longwave and rulus, whats EOF?
[01:57] <longwave> moi: "end of file"
[01:57] <moi> of course
[01:57] <longwave> moi: it is a special marker that lets dd know when to stop :)
[01:57] <Whyvas> OsirisX11, stick with the 386 stuff, there's no point in going to 686, some people even find that 686 is slower
[01:58] <freebuntu> before the airbags inflate
[01:58] <OsirisX11> really
[01:58] <moi> again, many thanks longwave
[01:58] <OsirisX11> can anyone attest to that as well?
[01:58] <OsirisX11> 686 or k7 being slower than default?
[01:58] <krimzon> is it possible to force my nvidia drivers to do 4x antialiasing, like you can with the tray tool in windows?
[01:58] <freebuntu> do some people find the 686 FASTER?
[01:58] <longwave> i don't know about slower but there is not that much difference in speed between 386 and 686 kernels
[01:58] <Wizardling> Does 6.06.1 fix Ubuntu for original iMac G3 machines?
[01:58] <moi> like Jack_Sparrow said " DD is a sledge hammer of tools"
[01:58] <OsirisX11> 10% right?
[01:58] <Whyvas> google 686 vs 386 kernel
[01:58] <cavediver> tuxub: also rdiff-backup keeps history forever so in order to clean up once in a while, run rdiff-backup --remove-older-than 2M /backed/up/directory
[01:58] <Whyvas> you'll see
[01:58] <moi> wanted to get it right
[01:59] <fuzzybunny> wow
[01:59] <cavediver> tuxub: ypu can use D for days, M for months and so on
[01:59] <fuzzybunny> I just d/led the 6.01 ubuntu version
[01:59] <fuzzybunny> awesome GUI install :)
[01:59] <longwave> moi: yes, you can do a lot of low-level disk and file manipulation with dd with various parameters to it
[01:59] <tuxub> cavediver, its finnaly running :D
[01:59] <OsirisX11> what's google?
[02:00] <freebuntu> anyone know easy way to clone a drive, in windows I used to use norton ghost
[02:00] <fuzzybunny> freebuntu, why is ver 6+ not complicated w/all kinds of x config nonsense?
[02:00] <Whyvas> google is god's gift to the ignorant
[02:00] <Wizardling> Anyone know if anyone could be bothered to test 6.06.1 on early iMacs?
[02:00] <moi> amen
[02:00] <Whyvas> Fred, use norton ghost
[02:00] <moi> *says an ignorant"
[02:00] <Whyvas> freebuntu, use norton ghost
[02:01] <freebuntu> because they are finally giving windows a run for their money. up till 3 months ago, I was a windows GURU. Now I'm a linux NEWBIE   sigh
[02:01] <freebuntu> like school all over again
[02:01] <fuzzybunny> lol
[02:01] <OsirisX11> hahah i'm in here using mirc through wine.. it works great :)
[02:01] <Wizardling> lucky you freebuntu
[02:01] <fuzzybunny> I'm prob gonna be in the same boat freebuntu
[02:01] <Whyvas> why mirc OsirisX11 ?
[02:01] <Whyvas> try xchat!
[02:01] <prologic> Hi, where do I find ubuntu packages (apt sources) for mythtv ?
[02:01] <fuzzybunny> not even windows has a GUI install
[02:01] <OsirisX11> there was no irc client installed by default
[02:01] <lowenduser> I just got ubuntu installed after having a session with kubuntu. In the latter, all I had to do to create a rootpassword was type "passwd root" and then the password. In ubuntu I'm not authorized to do so. Why is that?