[09:16] <mike__> when installing?
[09:16] <defiant> no
[09:17] <defiant> my home folder
[09:17] <SolidSource> defiant: go to view >. show hidden
[09:17] <SolidSource> defiant: then into the folder ./mozilla
[09:17] <Jucato> ~/.mozilla
[09:18] <defiant> i am in there
[09:18] <surgy> what whould be some reasons of a windows pc establishing a connection over a lan to a linux pc and then the connection breaking?
[09:18] <SolidSource> defiant: go to the plugins folder...what is in there
[09:18] <intelikey> samba error ?
[09:19] <intelikey> !samba
[09:19] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:19] <defiant> I do not see a plugins folder
[09:19] <SolidSource> defiant: if nothing...thats ok
[09:19] <equinoxeB> hy there...
[09:20] <equinoxeB> ahm... xgl fails to start...
[09:20] <defiant> there is no plugins folder
[09:20] <SolidSource> defiant: ok, thats ok....for now
[09:20] <intelikey> !xgl
[09:20] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:21] <SolidSource> defiant: oh, just restart firefox completely
[09:21] <caris_mere> In Konsole, how do I show a space that is in a file name?
[09:21] <intelikey> say\ this
[09:21] <intelikey> "or do it this way"
[09:21] <SolidSource> defiant: then go to http://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp and test java
[09:21] <intelikey> 'or this'
[09:21] <surgy> intelikey: thnx for quickblock but i got it
[09:21] <Jucato> I think " "
[09:22] <intelikey> surgy np.
[09:22] <SolidSource> defiant: if is verifys then we can get flash installed
[09:22] <caris_mere> thx
[09:22] <intelikey> surgy thought looking in the script might enspire ya.
[09:22] <defiant> nope
[09:22] <defiant> it did not verify
[09:22] <pagux> I am back on public demand
[09:23] <pagux> :-)
[09:23] <defiant> I still have firefox for 64bit installed
[09:23] <intelikey> pagux good.
[09:23] <intelikey> pagux you can take over for me.
[09:23] <surgy> intelikey: i got a lot of crap going right now, trying to figure this problem out, looks like im gonna have to manually create offsets
[09:24] <intelikey> surgy not a lot of fun but probably very enlightening.
[09:24] <SolidSource> defiant: sorry, but unless you installed it, just don't see how that is possible
[09:24] <intelikey> later fellas !
[09:24] <defiant> I did not install it and it is here
[09:24] <defiant> I use it everyday
[09:24] <pagux> intelikey: aviour mon ami
[09:25] <defiant> even one of the tuts say that firefox 2.0 comes with the install of kubuntu
[09:25] <SolidSource> defiant: well.....going to have to say lets uninstall it
[09:25] <surgy> intelikey: i know how to switch between terminal instances (F1 - F4) can i do that with xwindows? maybe alt + F11 ?
[09:25] <defiant> ok for some reason my apt-get will not work at all now
[09:25] <SolidSource> defiant: cause I don't know where it got installed
[09:25] <surgy> got an error?
[09:25] <pagux> is mark shutleworth here ?
[09:25] <defiant> it was there
[09:26] <skullersab> yay!!....the sources list has been changed by me and adept has found it n the packages are there in "ADD/REMOVE" now...time to get started on selecting....thnx a bunch  u guys
[09:26] <SolidSource> defiant: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:26] <defiant> ok
[09:26] <surgy> can someone tell me how to change between xwindows instances?
[09:27] <underdog5004> skullers, adept proved pretty buggy for me, you might wanna try synaptic
[09:27] <underdog5004> !synaptic | Skuller
[09:27] <ubotu> Skuller: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[09:27] <defiant> now what
[09:28] <SolidSource> defiant: ok, now try to open adept or synaptic...whichever
[09:28] <pagux> hi  folks i am making  make kubuntu clone of Mac OS X called KOS XX
[09:28] <defiant> nope it will not open
[09:28] <pagux> it will have all features of OS X
[09:28] <defiant> http://pastebin.com/882880
[09:28] <pagux> ofcouse Open Source
[09:29] <pagux> http://pagux.com/pics/linuxosx.png
[09:30] <SolidSource> defiant: ok trying to install those ia32 java screwed it up
[09:30] <Skuller> underdog5004: thnx man...even i figured adept is quite buggy and many ppl have 2 use the adeptfix...
[09:30] <staar2> hello
[09:30] <SolidSource> defiant: remove those first
[09:30] <Skuller> underdog5004: i will download adept asap
[09:30] <underdog5004> lol, yeah, I hated it
[09:30] <underdog5004> Skuller, no, synaptic is what you want/need
[09:30] <staar2> i have problems with my kubuntu
[09:30] <Skuller> underdog5004: lol..i meant synaptic
[09:30] <pagux> i plan implement all Mac OS X features
[09:30] <underdog5004> lol
[09:31] <defiant> how?
[09:31] <underdog5004> staar2, what's happening?
[09:31] <defiant> nothigng will open for me to uninstall them
[09:31] <staar2> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2168648#post2168648 -- here typed my problem
[09:31] <SolidSource> defiant: ??
[09:31] <defiant> I cannot uninstall them i cannot do apt-get nor can i open adept
[09:31] <underdog5004> taking a look now
[09:32] <staar2> k thats good and ty
[09:32] <underdog5004> defiant, try sudo apt-get remove --purge package_name
[09:32] <SolidSource> defiant: ok so "sudo apt-get remove ia32-sun-java5-bin" doesn't work?
[09:32] <pagux> Also a Vista  linux implementation  called Kickbista
[09:32] <SolidSource> yeah purge might help
[09:32] <pagux> what ya guys think ;-)
[09:32] <defiant> yea that worked
[09:32] <defiant> no it did not
[09:33] <underdog5004> staar2, I believe there is a gui for that sort of thing...SystemGuard or something like that....or if you like the command line, killall process_name
[09:33] <defiant> Errors where encountered while processing Aborted
[09:33] <oFF-beAt> offbeat@offbeat-desktop:~/kmess-cvs$ make -f Makefile.dist
[09:33] <oFF-beAt> This Makefile is only for the CVS repository
[09:33] <oFF-beAt> This will be deleted before making the distribution
[09:33] <oFF-beAt> *** YOU'RE USING autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.60.
[09:33] <oFF-beAt> *** KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or newer
[09:33] <cpk1> aptitude install -f would probably be a good idea too
[09:33] <oFF-beAt> make[1] : *** [cvs]  Error 1
[09:33] <pagux> http://pagux.com/pics/linux.png
[09:33] <oFF-beAt> sorry didn;t realise it was that long
[09:33] <cpk1> the java package is probably hanging defiant
[09:34] <underdog5004> !pastebin | oFF-beAt
[09:34] <ubotu> oFF-beAt: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:34] <nomad111> hey again is there desktop picker tool that can be placed on the desktop
[09:34] <Skuller> how do i install synaptic?
[09:34] <SolidSource> pagux: first of all screw anything related to vista....and second, don't want more things to be like mac...
[09:34] <oFF-beAt> underdog5004, sorry abt that i meant to paste 2 line sonly
[09:34] <nomad111> the one in the task bar takes too much space
[09:34] <underdog5004> Skuller, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[09:34] <underdog5004> Skuller, I believe you need to add some repos first...not sure about that one...
[09:34] <mike__> adept is inept hehe
[09:35] <SolidSource> underdog5004: any ideas on how to get apt-get and adept working again?
[09:35] <nomad111> adept is the best lol
[09:35] <mike__> been a little flakey here
[09:35] <lotusleaf> Skuller: are you serious? I told you how earlier
[09:35] <underdog5004> SolidSource, what kinda problem you got?
[09:35] <SolidSource> adept has its issues just as much as anything else
[09:35] <surgy> underdog5004: whats the macro for changing between instances of X ?
[09:35] <underdog5004> nomad111, no way, synaptic is the best
[09:35] <oFF-beAt> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6194/   ok.. someone pls tell me what's wring??
[09:36] <oFF-beAt> *wrong
[09:36] <SolidSource> underdog5004: working on defiants problem
[09:36] <Skuller> underdog5004: yea dw about the repos...i added most of them....
[09:36] <underdog5004> dw?
[09:36] <underdog5004> surgy, I have no idea...sorry
[09:36] <SolidSource> !adeptfix
[09:36] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:36] <Skuller> lotusleaf: lol...told me wat earlier man?...sorri if i forgot...i am panicking most of the time i use linux
[09:37] <nomad111> underdog5004: synaptic doesnt load quick and searching is as quick as adept either
[09:37] <nomad111> underdog5004: at least from my end
[09:37] <nomad111> searching isnt*
[09:37] <adydas> how do you mount a network drive, it says bad file system to a mount -t cifs
[09:37] <surgy> can someone tell me the macro to change between instances of X ?
[09:37] <cpk1> defiant: try sudo dpkg --configure -a if your java package is hanging
[09:37] <lotusleaf> Skuller: when people are kind enough to help you, it helps to be kind enough to pay attention ;)
[09:37] <underdog5004> nomad111, yeah, that's true, in my estimation, but it's solid and won't uninstall half your system (that happened tome w/ adept...had to reinstall)
[09:37] <SolidSource> cpk1: thats not the problem
[09:37] <lotusleaf> Skuller: install it through Adept and/or sudo apt-get install synaptic from the command line
[09:37] <Skuller> lotusleaf: yes man....i am reali sorri about that.....
[09:38] <defiant> back to a command prompt
[09:38] <lotusleaf> Skuller: /msg nickserv help register
[09:38] <cpk1> it sure looks like the java package is hanging...
[09:38] <Skuller> lotusleaf: yea...dw..i got it installed...i m just selecting the packages rite now...
[09:38] <surgy> defiant: terminal*
[09:38] <SolidSource> cpk1: ia32-sun-java5-bin crashed adept while attempting to install...and now can't get it remove since its not needed
[09:38] <underdog5004> defiant, is there an option to see a terminal when removing/installing?
[09:38] <ubuntu_> Hi guys. I'm having trouble with qtparted.
[09:38] <ubuntu_> It won't let me resize an ntfs partition
[09:38] <defiant> I am in terminal
[09:39] <cpk1> yeah, its probably hanging
[09:39] <underdog5004> ubuntu_, why not? what error?
[09:39] <Skuller> REGISTER chochu1989
[09:39] <cpk1> it needs to finish the install
[09:39] <Skuller> umm...why isnt dis fing workin?...da register fing?
[09:39] <underdog5004> defiant, weird...you should see a license when installing...don't know about removing...
[09:39] <Skuller> REGISTER kloo9876
[09:39] <underdog5004> Skuller, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Skuller
[09:39] <cpk1> Skuller: you need to msg nickserv
[09:39] <SolidSource> cpk1: you don't think it will conflict with the java we just got installed
[09:39] <Skuller> ohh
[09:40] <Skuller>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Skuller
[09:40] <cpk1> SolidSource: it needs to finish the previous installation first
[09:40] <Skuller> umm...dint work
[09:40] <Jucato> Skuller: don't put a space before the '/'
[09:40] <Skuller> yea..soz...got that
[09:40] <ubuntu_> the error is: "Opening /dev/sda2 as NTFS failed: Operation not supported"
[09:40] <SolidSource> defiant: ok, lets see if cpk1 is right
[09:40] <Skuller> REGISTER <chochu1989>
[09:40] <SolidSource> defiant: "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre"
[09:41] <Skuller> REGISTER <kloo9876>
[09:41] <Skuller> damn dis fing...now what m i doing rong?
[09:41] <ubuntu_> any ideas?
[09:41] <cpk1> no, dpkg --configure -a
[09:41] <SolidSource> cpk1: tried that
[09:41] <ubuntu_> ..
[09:41] <underdog5004> Skuller, you're acting like a moron who is transliterating his inability to speak.
[09:41] <cpk1> and?
[09:41] <SolidSource> cpk1: still have the problem
[09:41] <surgy> !ntfs | ubuntu
[09:41] <ubotu> ubuntu: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:41] <Skuller> underdog5004: lol...yea man...blve me i am one when it comes to this
[09:42] <cpk1> hmm maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[09:42] <underdog5004> Skuller, lol, not that you _are_ a moron...lol, I don't mean you are at all!
[09:42] <ubuntu_> thanks surgy, but that doesn't help.
[09:42] <Lynoure> Skuller: you are not adding /msg nickserver  to the beginning, I guess
[09:42] <SolidSource> defiant: does "dpkg --configure -a" come up with any errors?
[09:42] <ubuntu_> oh wait... write access.
[09:42] <defiant> this is doing something
[09:42] <ubuntu_> that includes shrinking, eh?
[09:42] <cpk1> dpkg needs sudo btw
[09:43] <SolidSource> cpk1: defiant: what is that that little sudo seems so hard to remember to add in when instructing....
[09:43] <surgy> ubuntu: yes :)
[09:44] <defiant> I am putting sudo in front
[09:44] <SolidSource> defiant: ok
[09:44] <ubuntu_> erythfhfnf
[09:45] <defiant> Setting up sun-java5-bin (1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1) ...
[09:45] <ubuntu_> ah sorry, an annoying guy came and attacked my keyboard.
[09:45] <mike__> Nvidia-glx installed ,,impressed
[09:45] <SolidSource> defiant: alright....we in good shape then
[09:45] <ubuntu_> anyway.. so that page tells me how to shrink ntfs partitions with a live cd kubuntu 6.10?
[09:45] <oFF-beAt> pls help http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6194/
[09:45] <defiant> ok
[09:45] <SolidSource> mike__: in feisty: that shouldn't have any problems installing
[09:45] <cpk1> like I said...
[09:46] <SolidSource> defiant: ok now remove firefox
[09:46] <surgy> underdog5004: by the way to switch between x instances its cntrl + alt + F7-F12
[09:46] <underdog5004> ah, nice
[09:46] <defiant> removed
[09:46] <Jucato> oFF-beAt: you have autoconf and automake installed?
[09:46] <mike__> SolidSource: very easy,,painless,This rellease of kubuntu is the only one i have liked thus far
[09:46] <SolidSource> cpk1: well I said to do that before...might have missed that line though
[09:46] <Jucato> surgy: minus Ctrl+Alt+F8
[09:46] <oFF-beAt> Jucato, yes i have... the paste bin also shows that...
[09:46] <SolidSource> defiant: ok, now you got 2 options
[09:47] <surgy> jucato: whats F8 do?
[09:47] <defiant> k
[09:47] <Jucato> surgy: it's used by USplash (Ubuntu bootsplash)
[09:47] <SolidSource> defiant: either install firefox through adept/apt-get or get swiftfox (only difference is swiftfox is designed to your system architecture)
[09:47] <Jucato> surgy: so you basically only have F7, F9-F12
[09:47] <Feels_Idiotic> lol
[09:47] <surgy> jucato: any differences between them?
[09:48] <Jucato> surgy: what do you mean?
[09:48] <Defiant> what do I do now
[09:48] <surgy> jucato: they arnt like "run level 1" "run level 2" bs?
[09:48] <Jucato> surgy: nope
[09:48] <surgy> jucato so all are fresh instances?
[09:48] <SolidSource> Defiant: need to know if you want the actual firefox or swiftfox?
[09:49] <Defiant> the actual firefox
[09:49] <Jucato> surgy: you have to manually start them if you need/want to use them.
[09:49] <SolidSource> Defiant: ok, just reinstall using "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[09:49] <surgy> jucato: so F10 by itself wont do it?
[09:49] <SolidSource> Defiant: this should hopefully reset things
[09:50] <Jucato> surgy: nope. it will just give you a blank screen w/ a blinking cursor. switching to it won't start a new X session
[09:50] <larrythecow> !girls
[09:50] <Defiant> done
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about girls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <underdog5004> !botabuse
[09:50] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:50] <SolidSource> Defiant: ok go back to java.com and test it again
[09:50] <Defiant> but it is the 64bit firefox
[09:50] <surgy> jucato: then how do i start a new X session that i can switch to?
[09:50] <Defiant> not the 32bit
[09:50] <Skuller> i get this error many times in synaptic.....The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 033431536A423791
[09:50] <Jucato> surgy: you can use the "Start New Session" in the K Menu
[09:51] <Defiant> nope
[09:51] <SolidSource> Defiant: ok there is no 64bit firefox
[09:51] <surgy> jucato: but i need a keyboard macro in order to switch out of my game and back to my server konsole
[09:52] <Defiant> well there is a 32bit one that I know of and then one that is not 32bit that is all I know, sorry
[09:52] <Defiant> that is y I said 64bt
[09:52] <Jucato> surgy: once you start a new X session (or a new terminal session, for that matter), you can Ctrl+Alt+Fn to switch to those sessions, if that's what you were after
[09:52] <SolidSource> Defiant: well then....
[09:53] <surgy> jucato: i will be able to switch then by pressing cntrl + alt + F10?
[09:53] <Jucato> surgy: *if* a new X session is started there already
[09:53] <Skuller> can any1 help me with this error message in synaptic?
[09:53] <Skuller> The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 033431536A423791
[09:53] <surgy> jucato: ok kewl
[09:53] <SolidSource> Defiant: ok go into konqueror and to "/usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/plugins"
[09:54] <SolidSource> Defiant: should see a file named "libjavaplugin_oji.so"
[09:55] <Defiant> yup
[09:55] <Defiant> it is there
[09:55] <SolidSource> Defiant: ok then...screw installing firefox through adept/apt-get
[09:55] <Skuller> how do i start up the synaptic installer....not the package manager?
[09:55] <larrythecow> Does anyone here know about shrinking ntfs?
[09:56] <SolidSource> Defiant: get swiftfox
[09:56] <Defiant> I have a bunch of passes and bookmarks saved in firefox though
[09:56] <SolidSource> Defiant: remove firefox again...its not looking in the right places for plugins
[09:56] <Defiant> will that matter
[09:56] <Defiant> done
[09:57] <SolidSource> Defiant: there is absolutely no difference betweeen firefox and swiftfox...swiftfox is just optimized for specific archs
[09:57] <Defiant> that file disappeared too
[09:57] <Skuller> SolidSource: can you tell me how to startup synaptic installer and not package manager?
[09:58] <SolidSource> Defiant: go to http://getswiftfox.com/debian.htm and downoad your specific processor
[09:58] <SolidSource> Skuller: you installed synaptic through adept/apt-get?
[09:58] <Skuller> SolidSource: yea....i can see the synaptic package manager in my system...
[09:59] <Skuller> SolidSource: but i want the simpler version...the one wich u get if u click add/remove in ubuntu
[09:59] <adydas> !mount
[09:59] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:59] <Defiant> I don't know what is wrong but it keeps opening in kate
[09:59] <adydas> !diskmount
[09:59] <SolidSource> Skuller: umm...thats add/remove here to
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about diskmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <adydas> !diskmounter
[09:59] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[09:59] <SolidSource> Defiant: you have to right+click and save-as
[10:00] <eh-ef-kay> hello.
[10:00] <Defiant> ok done
[10:00] <Skuller> SolidSource: if i click add/remove here then it opens up adept installer.....but i want to use the synaptic one...not the synaptic package manager tho
[10:00] <SolidSource> Skuller: oh....well that doesn't get installed on here cause this ain't ubuntu
[10:01] <Skuller> SolidSource: does this mean i cant use it at all in kubun?
[10:01] <SolidSource> Skuller: adept is the main install program
[10:01] <Defiant> I do not understand I follow the instructions on the site and it still errors
[10:01] <eh-ef-kay> so i was prompted to update xorg/kernel from 2.6.17-10 to 2.6.17-11 and apon this seems somewhere it lost my xorg.conf is this an isolated issue "seeing as i always keep backups of xorg.conf" or is it a real issue?
[10:01] <Defiant> sudo dpkg --install swiftfox_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_athlon64.deb
[10:01] <Defiant> did not work
[10:02] <SolidSource> Defiant: ok right click the file >> kubuntu package menu >> install
[10:02] <Skuller> SolidSource: ohh...well synaptics package manager is quite complicated for me...so i'll just use adept installer then....thnx fer da help
[10:02] <Defiant> k
[10:02] <SolidSource> Skuller: never used ubuntu itself....never ever liked gnome
[10:02] <Defiant> done
[10:03] <SolidSource> Defiant: ok, is that file back in /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/plugins?
[10:03] <Defiant> no
[10:03] <pounce> SolidSource: Kubuntu FTW :)
[10:03] <Defiant> it says it does not exist
[10:03] <oFF-beAt> pls help http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6194/
[10:04] <SolidSource> Defiant: give java another test
[10:04] <Skuller> SolidSource: ohh...thas arrite man...thnx
[10:04] <SolidSource> Defiant: if not working, then all we do is go back to how we initially installed java itself
[10:04] <Skuller> SolidSource: another very important thing to clarify man...
[10:04] <Defiant> nope not working
[10:05] <nitram_> ahoj
[10:05] <eh-ef-kay> hmm
[10:05] <SolidSource> Skuller: if you want that installer...you could just install ubuntu and then KDE next to gnome
[10:05] <SolidSource> Defiant: alright, just means need to recreate it
[10:05] <nitram_> mluvi tu nekdo cesky??
[10:05] <Skuller> SolidSource: my mum loves 'spider solitaire' and 'freecell' in windows....is there a substitute for them in kubun?
[10:05] <Skuller> SolidSource: no thas arrite man...i'll jus use adept then
[10:06] <Defiant> do I need to remove it then install it again?
[10:06] <SolidSource> Defiant: no
[10:06] <mike__> Install ubuntu ,,then 'apt-get install kde'
[10:06] <SolidSource> Skuller: they might be in the game package
[10:07] <nitram_> jak tak koukam, tak asi nikdo
[10:07] <Skuller> SolidSource: ok...i'll chek...thnx
[10:07] <SolidSource> Skuller: I know solitar is..but spider solitar not sure
[10:07] <SolidSource> wow...my "i" key not want to work there
[10:08] <SolidSource> Defiant: getting it?
[10:08] <Skuller> SolidSource: ..hm..i dint manage to find either
[10:08] <Defiant> no
[10:08] <Defiant> i don't know what to do
[10:08] <SolidSource> Skuller: in adept type solatair
[10:08] <SolidSource> skuller and if I could spell
[10:10] <SolidSource> Defiant: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6195/
[10:10] <Skuller> SolidSource: no...no results turned up for solitaire...and just after showing me the "No Results" screen...adept installer decided to crash....any ideas?
[10:11] <SolidSource> Skuller: lol no, no ideas...just try and reopen the thing
[10:12] <SolidSource> Defiant: let me know when done with java
[10:13] <Defiant> done
[10:14] <SolidSource> alright file back?
[10:15] <morghanphoenix> Does edgy come with XGL & Beryl, or at least have them in the repos?
[10:15] <Defiant> still no go
[10:15] <Defiant> It still does not work
[10:15] <SolidSource> morgphanphoenix: they are in repos...though they are not suggested for use
[10:15] <SolidSource> defiant holy hell
[10:16] <Defiant> I do not know why
[10:16] <Defiant> but it is not working
[10:16] <morghanphoenix> Hmm, maybe I should switch to gentoo instead, staying the frell away from fedora, redhat and suse though.
[10:17] <Skuller> !codecs
[10:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:18] <SolidSource> Defiant: lets try something crazy
[10:18] <Defiant> k
[10:18] <SolidSource> Skuller: if you need w32codecs ....its not in repos
[10:18] <eh-ef-kay> i'd asume no one can answer my question :!
[10:19] <SolidSource> Defiant: though it consists of me sending you a copy of my java link file
[10:19] <SolidSource> Defiant: oh wait
[10:19] <Skuller> SolidSource: i just need a way to play my mp3, wma, wmv and DivX.....simple way?
[10:20] <SolidSource> Skuller: you'll need w32codecs then
[10:20] <Skuller> SolidSource: and how do i get them?
[10:20] <SolidSource> Defiant: in konsole
[10:20] <Defiant> k
[10:21] <SolidSource> Defiant: cd /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[10:22] <SolidSource> Defiant: is there a file on your desktop called "libjavaplugin_oji.so"?
[10:22] <Defiant> no
[10:22] <SolidSource> Skuller: http://www.debianadmin.com/install-libdvdcss-and-w32-video-codecs-in-debian-and-ubuntu.html
[10:22] <Defiant> and there is no moilla-firefox directory either
[10:23] <SolidSource> Defiant: theres no: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[10:23] <SolidSource> ?
[10:23] <Defiant> no
[10:24] <SolidSource> how about /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[10:26] <Defiant> no
[10:26] <SolidSource> not possible...
[10:27] <Defiant> it is not there
[10:27] <SolidSource> the file or folder?
[10:27] <Defiant> the mozilla-firefox is not there
[10:28] <Defiant> I have mozilla-thunderbird and that is all
[10:28] <SolidSource> and you installed swiftfox
[10:28] <Skuller> SolidSource: thank you very much...i will get on it as soon as my adept is done....
[10:29] <Defiant> yes
[10:29] <SolidSource> theres something wrong...cause without those folders...I don't know where to put the file
[10:30] <SolidSource> Defiant: how did you install kubuntu?
[10:31] <Defiant> cd
[10:31] <Defiant> firefox was not installed so that folder was not there
[10:31] <Defiant> I just reinstalled firefox and the folder is there now
[10:32] <SolidSource> when installing swiftfox...it should have created those folders
[10:32] <Defiant> i don't know why it did not
[10:34] <SolidSource> Defiant: well I'm completely stumped...if that folder and the file "libjavaplugin_oji.so" are there when you install firefox in adept...then java should work
[10:34] <SolidSource> Defiant: did you install off the alternative CD?
[10:35] <Defiant> I burned a cd
[10:35] <Defiant> the full 600 some odd megs
[10:35] <SolidSource> Defiant: yes, but which...the actual install CD or the alternative CD
[10:35] <SolidSource> ok the actual one
[10:35] <Defiant> actual
[10:36] <SolidSource> well then 1. firefox should not have been installed during system install
[10:36] <Defiant> that file is not in the right directory
[10:36] <Defiant> fire fox is in mozilla-firefox
[10:36] <Defiant> that file is in lib64
[10:36] <Defiant> then firefox
[10:36] <SolidSource> ok...copy that file to those various folders
[10:37] <SolidSource> you'll need to do kdesu konqueror to do so
[10:37] <SolidSource> defiant easy way = alt+F2
[10:37] <Defiant> dude it is in both
[10:38] <Defiant> java plugin is there for Konqueror but not for for ff or swift fox
[10:39] <SolidSource> what? you saying java works in konqueror?
[10:39] <adydas> am i likely to hit issues by putting this into my fstab
[10:39] <adydas> /exthdd/store  /store          cifs   0        0
[10:40] <staar2> where i get network drivers for asus m2n
[10:40] <Defiant> yes it does work
[10:40] <staar2> windows one
[10:40] <Defiant> in Konqueror
[10:41] <SolidSource> Defiant: if so it don't matter, we working on getting it to work in firefox...and if "libjavaplugin_oji.so" isn't in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins and its sister folders
[10:41] <Defiant> it is
[10:41] <Defiant> and it still does not work
[10:41] <cpk1> you know there is a wiki page on getting java to work?
[10:41] <SolidSource> yeah...thats what we followed
[10:42] <cpk1> what arch is this?
[10:42] <SolidSource> Defiant: do "uname -r" and tell us what it says
[10:42] <SolidSource> Defiant: in konsole
[10:42] <cpk1> pretty easy to know if you have 32 bit or 64 bit proc
[10:42] <Defiant> 2.6.17-11-generic
[10:42] <SolidSource> yeah
[10:43] <Defiant> I have a 64bit processor
[10:43] <SolidSource> well thats correct
[10:43] <kraut> moin
[10:43] <Godet> !kaolo
[10:43] <SolidSource> cpk1 we having a problem with firefox not wanting to access the java plugin
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kaolo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <adydas> ok, if i put //exthdd/store  /store          cifs   0        0 into fstab it auto detects the network drive and loads it but comes up with a box for a password click ok with nothing in it and it still loads, So how do i get fstab not to ask for that password?
[10:43] <cpk1> you installed it with sun-java5-plugin?
[10:44] <SolidSource> it should be installed
[10:45] <cpk1> did you install sun-java5-plugin?
[10:45] <Defiant> I can't get it installed
[10:45] <SolidSource> yes
[10:46] <SolidSource> thats the file we downloaded from java.com
[10:46] <Defiant> oh ok
[10:46] <cpk1> no!
[10:46] <cpk1> why didnt you use the package?
[10:47] <cpk1> it's there for a reason
[10:47] <SolidSource> because it wasn't working
[10:48] <cpk1> i dont see why it wouldnt work
[10:48] <Defiant> me neither
[10:48] <Defiant> I am lost
[10:49] <Defiant> all of this to get ff with flash wokring
[10:49] <Defiant> and java
[10:49] <Defiant> what if I give one of u remote access...lol
[10:49] <cpk1> no
[10:49] <Defiant> i am tired it is almost 5am here
[10:49] <SolidSource> lol
[10:49] <cpk1> you should have used the package
[10:49] <cpk1> there is no reason why that shouldnt work
[10:49] <Defiant> I do not know what you mean
[10:50] <cpk1> !sun-java5-plugin
[10:50] <Defiant> I downloaded something tried it and it did not work
[10:50] <ubotu> sun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB
[10:50] <cpk1> thats what i mean, thats the java plugin
[10:50] <SolidSource> cpk1 ...there is no sun-java5-plugin in the repos for starters...
[10:50] <cpk1> is there a reason you needed se 6?
[10:50] <SolidSource> not using 6.0
[10:51] <Defiant> I just need javaand flash to work in firefox that is all I know
[10:51] <SolidSource> jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin is the file we used to install
[10:51] <cpk1> SolidSource: ... so your telling me its not in multiverse like the bot says?
[10:51] <SolidSource> cpk1: I have multiverse...and I just searched for it...its not there
[10:51] <Defiant> i just tried sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin an it says it is not there
[10:52] <cpk1> Defiant: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:53] <cpk1> you guys are making this much much much harder than it is
[10:53] <Defiant> I ahve tried about four tuts and none of them worked
[10:53] <Defiant> http://pastebin.com/882896
[10:55] <SolidSource> cpk1: see multiverse is there....sun-java5-plugin doesn't exist
[10:55] <cpk1> Defiant: and sudo aptitude update doesnt give any errors?
[10:55] <cpk1> other than wine
[10:56] <Defiant> yea it givesa 404
[10:56] <cpk1> SolidSource: it does exist http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/web/sun-java5-plugin
[10:57] <cpk1> Defiant: which repo gives a 404?
[10:57] <SolidSource> mine looks almost exactly like his and I get no errors at all
[10:57] <Defiant> Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[10:57] <cpk1> thats normal, are you running 64bit?
[10:57] <Defiant> yes
[10:58] <SolidSource> cpk1: just cause that page exists...doesn't mean the file exists
[10:58] <cpk1> SolidSource: feel free to download using the link at the bottom
[10:59] <cpk1> however you guys didnt tell me that this was 64bit
[10:59] <gokula> hi, one question about xgl and beryl, which libGL.so.1 should be used, the fglrx or the mesa one?
[10:59] <SolidSource> cpk1: LOL it was one of the first things we said when you jumped back in
[10:59] <orient2000> Some repositories are down for some reason. I could not get GAIM for example.
[11:00] <cpk1> having a 64bit and running in a 64bit enviroment are different
[11:00] <SolidSource> cpk1: yes I know...I have 64bit
[11:00] <Defiant> I really need to get to bed
[11:00] <Defiant> LoL
[11:00] <cpk1> Defiant: do you already have 32bit firefox installed?
[11:01] <Defiant> no
[11:01] <vegasmcpc> what's up guys
[11:01] <SolidSource> cpk1: he has firefox installed through adept and we even tried swiftfox
[11:01] <gokula> hi, one question about xgl and beryl, which libGL.so.1 should be used, the fglrx or the mesa one?, deas anybody know it?
[11:02] <vegasmcpc> i just installed kubuntu on my media center pc and now whenever i have the volume on at all my left channel has a really high pitched squealing noise coming through it
[11:02] <cpk1> Defiant: i dont have 64bit so I dont have much expierence but http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537 is probably your best bet since most of it is automated
[11:02] <SolidSource> those are the same instructions we followed
[11:02] <Defiant> I tried that too
[11:03] <cpk1> Defiant: and what went wrong?
[11:04] <vegasmcpc> any clue on the sound issue anybody?
[11:04] <Defiant> the whole thing, the automated does not work
[11:04] <Defiant> and the other files and commands give me errors
[11:04] <cpk1> !work
[11:04] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[11:05] <cpk1> it has a manual how-to as well
[11:05] <vegasmcpc> cpk1: , was that directed at me?
[11:05] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: no =)
[11:05] <SolidSource> cpk1: we followed those instructions --just the same as I did on my system and it works--- and it didn't work on his
[11:06] <orient2000> vegasmcpc: check the wires or maybe the driver is asymetric :)
[11:06] <cpk1> then why doesnt he have 32bit ff if he was following the instructions?
[11:06] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: what are you using to output the audio?
[11:07] <vegasmcpc> i was using amarok, just standard onboard audio
[11:07] <till> hi guys, just a short question, what kind of ftp-client are you using? I currently use gFTP, but it's kinda uncomfortable...
[11:07] <cpk1> Defiant: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs lib32asound2 lib32ncurses5 ia32-libs-sdl ia32-libs-gtk gsfonts gsfonts-x11 linux32 did that step fail? if you managed to download all those then where did you start running into problems?
[11:07] <vegasmcpc> using a set of headphones that are known to be good
[11:09] <crystufer2000> !flash
[11:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:09] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[11:09] <crystufer2000> !backports
[11:09] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[11:09] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: normally I would say check the alsamixer settings but it doesnt sound like something that alsamixer would cause...
[11:09] <SolidSource> cpk1: adept installs the 32bit version...atleast according to my adept and he has the same sources.list
[11:11] <atidem> hello
[11:12] <vegasmcpc> alright, noob question, but how do i install something downloaded in .tar.gz
[11:12] <vegasmcpc> namely firefox
[11:13] <SolidSource> cpk1: any more thoughts? cause it makes no sense why it doesn't work
[11:13] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: you need to get build-essential and then unpack it and then compile, or since firefox is in the repos you can just use adept/apt to install it
[11:13] <vegasmcpc> where do i go for build-essential?
[11:14] <dettoaltrimenti_> open Adept Manager, and type in build-essential
[11:14] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: the same place you can get firefox =) new to ubuntu?
[11:14] <vegasmcpc> cpk1: yes
[11:14] <vegasmcpc> cpk1: about a day into it
[11:14] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: most common apps you want you can have automagically installed for you
[11:15] <cpk1> !repos | vegasmcpc
[11:15] <ubotu> vegasmcpc: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:15] <cpk1> that might help explain it to you better
[11:15] <SolidSource> Defiant: sorry we couldn't get this to work....but there must be something different about your system...cause if it installed firefox on its own and such, theres something weird going on
[11:15] <atidem> vegasmcpc: where did you download firefox? mozilla's server?
[11:16] <vegasmcpc> atidem:
[11:16] <vegasmcpc> yes
[11:16] <Defiant> I don't know, one of the tuts I read even said that Firefox is installed by default
[11:16] <vegasmcpc> thanks a lot for the help, guys
[11:16] <cpk1> Defiant: i still think you should read that forum post and follow it to the tee (install 32bit ff like it says and ia32-lib-firefox-amd64)
[11:16] <Defiant> I have tried all tuts I can find
[11:16] <atidem> vegasmcpc: just untar and decompress file
[11:16] <SolidSource> Defiant: well...its not installed by default
[11:16] <Defiant> It was
[11:16] <Defiant> I did not install it
[11:17] <Defiant> it was hre
[11:17] <Defiant> here
[11:17] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: keep in mind for a new user compiling might be very confusing so always try to get a .deb first
[11:17] <dettoaltrimenti_> vegasmcpc: if you're running kubuntu, under the k-menu go to system- adept manager, and you can get almost any program through that
[11:17] <SolidSource> dpkc defiant: well again, don't know how
[11:17] <vegasmcpc> dettoaltrimenti_: i looked for firefox in there
[11:18] <cpk1> Defiant: I am fairly certain that 64bit comes with 64bit ff
[11:18] <dettoaltrimenti_> it's there
[11:18] <vegasmcpc> there were a bunch of language things, but i didn't see the whole thing
[11:18] <cpk1> !firefox
[11:18] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:18] <Defiant> Yes it did that is what I have been saying
[11:19] <cpk1> Defiant: so have you installed firefox32 and ia32-lib-firefox-amd64?
[11:19] <Defiant> yes
[11:19] <Defiant> and it still does not work
[11:19] <SolidSource> vegasmcpc: you don't need build-essential for the firefox.tar.gz it has a shell script in it to install by
[11:19] <dettoaltrimenti_> vegasmcpc: if it doesn't show up, in Adept go to adept->manage repositories.. and right click and "enable" the two lines that say Universe Multiverse, then press apply, then press Fetch Updates, and it should show up
[11:20] <cpk1> Defiant: ok i'm confused at what point did that forum post how-to fail you?
[11:20] <vegasmcpc> ok, big problem
[11:20] <vegasmcpc> i tried installing firefox with adept
[11:20] <vegasmcpc> adept locked up, i forget what the error said
[11:21] <vegasmcpc> now trying to restart adept i get this error
[11:21] <vegasmcpc> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[11:21] <vegasmcpc> if i click ok it simply stops adept
[11:21] <dettoaltrimenti_> open up the terminal and type "apt-get update"
[11:21] <SolidSource> cpk1: again, we even tried swiftfox...yet it don't work in that either
[11:21] <SolidSource> don't forget the sudo
[11:22] <seven11> vegasmcpc: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:22] <cpk1> SolidSource: again "didnt work" is way to vague and I also have no clue if there were any problems along the way or what steps you guys took
[11:22] <dettoaltrimenti_> yeah vegasmcpc sorry type "sudo apt-get update" and see if that fixes the problem
[11:22] <SolidSource> cpk1: ok first he tried installing ia32-java package...it crashed adept
[11:23] <vegasmcpc> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[11:23] <SolidSource> cpk1: tried running it in konsole, still no luck
[11:23] <vegasmcpc> oops
[11:23] <seven11> vegasmcpc: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  in terminal
[11:23] <vegasmcpc> : Type 'build-essential' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:23] <SolidSource> cpk1: and yes we did dpkg --configure -a
[11:24] <SolidSource> cpk1: then continued on to follow the how-to
[11:25] <SolidSource> cpk1: when that failed we tried other things
[11:25] <cpk1> did you ever get rid of sun's java?
[11:25] <SolidSource> ia32 should have been uninstalled yes
[11:25] <dettoaltrimenti_> !adept
[11:25] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager.  I would use adept to get programs as often as possible, it's way easier than the other way
[11:30] <vegasmcpc> dettoaltrimenti_: will do
[11:30] <SolidSource> defiant: do "sudo apt-get remove --purge ia32-sun-java5-bin" to ensure its gone
[11:30] <cpk1> I have a strong distrust of adept =P
[11:30] <vegasmcpc> dettoaltrimenti_: this is only a media center pc...all that it needs to do is run a vnc server, run mplayer, run amarok, and have my huge raid5 array
[11:30] <cpk1> its failed many an install for me
[11:30] <vegasmcpc> lol...i'll be back for help when it comes to setting up the raid5 array
[11:31] <dettoaltrimenti_> ah gotcha
[11:31] <vegasmcpc> out of curiosity, is there a software raid option for linux?
[11:31] <vegasmcpc> because i would much rather do that in case my motherboard dies after the thing is no longer being manufactured
[11:31] <mosul> Hi. I updated the kubuntu but now when is starting is stop whith a single user screen as root. Then I press 'exit' and it continues with normal loading...
[11:31] <vegasmcpc> i know that software raid makes a performance hit, but it's just a fileserver and media player
[11:32] <dettoaltrimenti_> vegasmcpc yeah just go into adept and type raid
[11:32] <vegasmcpc> sweet
[11:32] <mosul> ... to grafical login. Any idea what's going on?
[11:32] <vegasmcpc> i'm not looking forward to seeing how long this thing is going to take to format all of that
[11:32] <vegasmcpc> 3.75tb usable raid5 arrays are nice, except when formatting them
[11:32] <vegasmcpc> and syncing them
[11:33] <vegasmcpc> then i get the fun of moving 1.8tb of stuff over to it across 100mbps ethernet
[11:34] <cpk1> get gigabit nics they are only $10
[11:34] <vegasmcpc> it's 4am
[11:34] <vegasmcpc> i'm probably going to get one as soon as best buy opens
[11:34] <pmjdebruijn> lo
[11:34] <vegasmcpc> but for right now i might as well get a start
[11:34] <cpk1> well you could just do it tomorrow =)
[11:34] <vegasmcpc> i'm awake, i'm excited to finally have this thing running linux, i wanna work on it now
[11:34] <cpk1> does cat 5 cut it for gigabit connections?
[11:35] <vegasmcpc> yes, cpk1
[11:35] <vegasmcpc> well
[11:35] <vegasmcpc> cat5e does
[11:35] <vegasmcpc> idk about regular cat5
[11:35] <beran> helo
[11:35] <beran> hello
[11:35] <vegasmcpc> hi beran
[11:35] <beran> hi vegasmcpc
[11:36] <beran> It is my first time here...
[11:36] <vegasmcpc> i really need to figure out what is up with this sound driver
[11:36] <cntb> \o where is save sessions in systemsettings
[11:36] <staar2> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2168648#post2168648 -- here typed my problem
[11:36] <vegasmcpc> beran: welcome to the club
[11:36] <beran> Thanks
[11:37] <beran> do you speak French
[11:37] <beran> ?
[11:37] <luciano> can anyone point me to a tutorial to get japanese input working on a english kubuntu?
[11:37] <beran> ???
[11:37] <dettoaltrimenti_> !fr
[11:37] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:37] <gigione> could any1 tell how to install me ati radeon 9600 in kubuntu 6.10 x86_64?
[11:37] <gigione> pls
[11:37] <cpk1> luciano: change the keyboard type?
[11:38] <vegasmcpc> will i have much luck with drivers from asus?
[11:38] <True_Friend> I can not build collection through amaroK i upgraded my system today to latest linux restricted modules after that amarok is giving this error
[11:38] <gigione> any1?
[11:38] <True_Friend> Sorry, the Collection Scan was aborted, since too many problems were encountered.
[11:38] <True_Friend> Advice: A common source for this problem is a broken 'TagLib' package on your computer. Replacing this package may help fixing the issue.
[11:38] <True_Friend> The following files caused problems:
[11:38] <gigione> could any1 tell how to install my ati radeon 9600 in kubuntu 6.10 x86_64?
[11:38] <luciano> not sure what you mean... im using a us keyboard, if that helps
[11:39] <luciano> in windows i am able to change it...
[11:39] <dettoaltrimenti_> staar2: that's no problem, totally normal. Is your computer going slow?
[11:39] <cpk1> True_Friend: try "sudo aptitude reinstall libid3tag0"
[11:40] <cpk1> True_Friend: and "sudo aptitude reinstall libtag1c2a"
[11:41] <gigione> could any1 tell how to install drivers for my ati radeon 9600 in kubuntu 6.10 x86_64?
[11:41] <True_Friend> ok i try
[11:41] <cpk1> !ati | gigione
[11:41] <ubotu> gigione: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:41] <True_Friend> had anyone used latest amarok (on edgy i m)
[11:41] <True_Friend> is it stable?
[11:41] <shinigami> nvidia use glx or aiglx for beryl?
[11:41] <dettoaltrimenti_> True_Friend: it's stable on edgy
[11:41] <shinigami> !ati > gigione
[11:42] <True_Friend> okiez
[11:42] <True_Friend> thnx
[11:42] <cpk1> True_Friend: I am using 1.4.4 with no problems
[11:42] <shinigami> !ati
[11:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:42] <shinigami> gigione: follow tat link
[11:42] <gigione> thanks
[11:43] <dettoaltrimenti_> True_Friend: are you sharing your files via samba/windows?
[11:43] <True_Friend> nops
[11:44] <True_Friend> amarok was just fine
[11:44] <True_Friend> but today latest linux restricted moduels etc i installed and it is creating problem
[11:44] <vegasmcpc> ok, there are linux drivers on asus' website for my sound card, i downloaded them....now what?
[11:44] <cpk1> True_Friend: you try reinstalling those 2 packages yet?
[11:44] <flippy> hi evry1
[11:44] <True_Friend> what two packages?
[11:45] <True_Friend> nops
[11:45] <cpk1> [02:40:27]  <cpk1> True_Friend: try "sudo aptitude reinstall libid3tag0" [02:41:05]  <cpk1> True_Friend: and "sudo aptitude reinstall libtag1c2a"
[11:45] <dettoaltrimenti_> vegasmcpc what kind of sound card do you have
[11:45] <flippy> can someone walk me thru how burn an iso file?
[11:45] <True_Friend> i tried first one
[11:45] <True_Friend> it was not install
[11:45] <True_Friend> but did not worked
[11:45] <True_Friend> now i try 2nd one also
[11:45] <ninHer> hi all
[11:45] <premier_> does anyone here know anything about just in time compilers for java?
[11:46] <cpk1> flippy: do you have k3b?
[11:46] <premier_> or java optimization in general?
[11:46] <flippy> yes
[11:46] <vegasmcpc>  	ADI AD1986A Linux Driver for Linux.
[11:46] <flippy> but
[11:46] <vegasmcpc> oops, didn't mean to paste all of that, but i have an adi ad1986a
[11:46] <vegasmcpc> some onboard p.o.s. i guess
[11:47] <cpk1> flippy: easiest way is to right click it go to actions then burn with k3b
[11:47] <vegasmcpc> but my problem is that whenever any sound plays there's a really high pitch squeal coming through
[11:47] <vegasmcpc> and one of you guys recommended to update drivers
[11:47] <vegasmcpc> which makes sense
[11:48] <flippy> i need to do an md5sum
[11:48] <flippy> checksum
[11:48] <flippy> ?
[11:49] <flippy> new to linux...
[11:49] <cpk1> flippy: what are you burning?
[11:50] <phretor> hi there
[11:50] <flippy> xandros professional desktop
[11:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> vegasmcpc: go into adept and make sure you have alsa-base installed, then click Full Upgrade then Apply Changes
[11:51] <cpk1> flippy: ok, then you might want to do an md5 checksum to make sure it downloaded correctly
[11:51] <phretor> (I've just switched from Debian to Ubuntu, actually Kubuntu, and I'm quite happy) Why does my distro runs fsck at *every* boot?
[11:51] <flippy> yes ...that is my first problem
[11:52] <flippy> how to do that
[11:52] <cpk1> flippy: you need to get the number from where you downloaded i
[11:52] <cpk1> it*
[11:52] <flippy> have that
[11:52] <vegasmcpc> ok, thanks dettoaltrimenti_
[11:52] <flippy> from xandros ,. com
[11:52] <typecast> phretor: does it find problems when doing fsck?
[11:52] <vegasmcpc> can't at the moment though, adept is updating
[11:52] <phretor> typecast: yes
[11:53] <phretor> typecast: are they logged somewhere?
[11:53] <cpk1> flippy: ok then run md5sum nameofthe.iso and compare the number it gives you to the number xandros gave you, they should be the same
[11:53] <typecast> phretor: no, i don't think so
[11:53] <typecast> phretor: maybe in /var/log/messages. but i don't think so
[11:53] <vegasmcpc> dettoaltrimenti_: it won't let me click full upgrade
[11:53] <phretor> typecast: so what to to? Re-run it again by CL?
[11:53] <maxwel> ho low para todos
[11:53] <flippy> it says to... Open a console window.
[11:54] <cpk1> phretor: you arent worried that fsck is finding errors at every boot?
[11:54] <typecast> phretor: you might want to boot into single user mode and rerun fsck
[11:54] <typecast> phretor: what is CL?
[11:54] <flippy> Type md5sum filename, where filename is the name of the file to check. File names are case-sensitive in Linux.
[11:54] <cpk1> flippy: yeah, open up konsole and do that
[11:54] <vegasmcpc> dettoaltrimenti_: i just had adept run like 120 updates, so that might be why
[11:54] <phretor> typecast: sorry, CL = Command Line :
[11:54] <phretor> cpk1: yes, I am worried
[11:54] <True_Friend> cpk1: same problem i reinstalled both packages but invain
[11:54] <True_Friend> any ideas?
[11:55] <cpk1> phretor: a great tool is SMART, its a hdd diagnostic tool
[11:55] <dettoaltrimenti_> vegasmcpc: then you have no upgradable packages available. If ALSA is installed, it's the latest release
[11:55] <typecast> phretor: yes, but you have to boot into singe user mode
[11:55] <typecast> phretor: there should be an entry in grub that should do that
[11:55] <phretor> typecast: "recovery mode"?
[11:56] <typecast> phretor: yes
[11:56] <flippy> really not faliar with using console yet
[11:56] <flippy> familiar
[11:56] <vegasmcpc> dettoaltrimenti_: any suggestions on my sound card?
[11:56] <cpk1> flippy: where is the iso located?
[11:56] <phretor> as a side note, I'm quite annoyed by the huge amount of modules that udev loads at boot (modules such as the wifi-driver that I really do not need anytime since it consumes power)
[11:56] <flippy> in a zip file on my desktop
[11:57] <cpk1> flippy: ok so do md5sum Desktop/nameofthe.zip
[11:57] <cpk1> from inside konsole
[11:58] <flippy> 'file:///home/phil/Desktop/xandros-41-professional-installation-trial/xandros-41-professional-installation-trial.iso
[11:58] <typecast> phretor: you can block the modules you don't need via /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[11:58] <cpk1> flippy: oh then it would be md5sum Desktop/xandros-41-professional-installation-trial/xandros-41-professional-installation-trial.iso
[11:58] <vegasmcpc> dettoaltrimenti_: the thing is, i have a sound driver from asus...isn't there a way that i can install it?
[11:59] <vegasmcpc> dettoaltrimenti_: what if the alsa driver has some kind of conflict with this particular card?
[11:59] <vegasmcpc> also, how do i install mplayer?  i don't see it in adept
[11:59] <dettoaltrimenti_> vegasmcpc: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179322 the solution is near the bottom of the page
[11:59] <cpk1> !mplayer
[11:59] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[11:59] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[12:01] <phretor> typecast: I'd need to umount / before but it is currently busy - any idea?
[12:01] <stimey> can someone help me migrate my gmail to evolution
[12:01] <flippy> 2dffd9fe6173311e857762f3721e398b ok got this number...now i compare to the number they have on website?
[12:01] <typecast> phretor: try "mount -o remount,ro /"
[12:01] <cpk1> phretor: easiest way to force a fsck is to use tune2fs
[12:01] <cpk1> flippy: yes, they should be the same
[12:02] <flippy> ok brb
[12:02] <typecast> phretor: if you did that you can savely perform the fsck
[12:02] <phretor> cpk1: I actually dislike to "force" something :)
[12:02] <beran> Could you say me how I can install fireFox and verify-it?
[12:02] <typecast> phretor: if it still complains perform fsck -f /dev/partition
[12:02] <vegasmcpc> damn...i did not want to see update bios in the necessary steps...i don't even own a floppy drive
[12:02] <vegasmcpc> erm
[12:02] <vegasmcpc> i have a drive
[12:02] <vegasmcpc> just no disks
[12:02] <cpk1> phretor: well thats what you are doing right now =)
[12:02] <phretor> cpk1: :-\
[12:03] <typecast> phretor: but never do a fsck on a partition that it is mounted read-write
[12:03] <cpk1> phretor: ext3 usually does a fsck every 30 mounts, use tune2fs to set the mount count to 99, then it will fsck on the next reboot
[12:03] <beran> ooo
[12:03] <phretor> anyway I'm getting this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2061145
[12:03] <vegasmcpc> this was one of the steps: -Put "options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 model=3stack" to "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base".
[12:04] <vegasmcpc> how would i go about doing that?
[12:05] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[12:06] <dettoaltrimenti_> my wireless card, eth1, is showing up in network settings, but I'm unable to enable it. I'm on a HP pavilion dv6000 laptop. Any help?
[12:06] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: sudo ifup eth1 work?
[12:08] <vegasmcpc> so i just add the stuff in the first set of quotes onto the end of the file?
[12:08] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1 ifup: interface eth1 already configured
[12:08] <phretor> I did `mount -o remount,ro /` but it replies me with "mount: / is busy"
[12:09] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: iwlist eth1 scan give any results?
[12:09] <cpk1> phretor: tune2fs -C 99 is an easy way to do fsck and is safe =)
[12:10] <cpk1> phretor: of course you will have to reboot
[12:10] <vegasmcpc> i got this error when trying to save
[12:10] <vegasmcpc> The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.
[12:10] <vegasmcpc> Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.
[12:10] <phretor> cpk1: nice
[12:10] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: you did kdesu kate?
[12:10] <phretor> cpk1: got it!
[12:10] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1 no scan results
[12:11] <anything> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl#head-3061c16ffd1230560d9fd97fe97d0a1ce9e89988
[12:11] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: I assume there really is a signal in range? what does lshw say about the ccard?
[12:11] <vegasmcpc> no, i just opened it from the gui because when i tried to kdesu i got this error
[12:11] <vegasmcpc> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[12:11] <vegasmcpc>   Major opcode:  144
[12:12] <vegasmcpc>   Minor opcode:  3
[12:12] <vegasmcpc>   Resource id:  0x0
[12:12] <cpk1> it should still open it i think even with that error
[12:12] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1: yes there is wireless in range. What would the card be under lshw?
[12:12] <vegasmcpc> Failed to open device
[12:12] <vegasmcpc> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[12:12] <vegasmcpc>   Major opcode:  144
[12:12] <vegasmcpc>   Minor opcode:  3
[12:12] <vegasmcpc>   Resource id:  0x0
[12:12] <vegasmcpc> Failed to open device
[12:12] <b0rt> hi there
[12:12] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: it will probably be listed under "network"
[12:12] <vegasmcpc> i got it to work
[12:12] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: just use nano then: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[12:12] <phretor> cpk1: anyway, the system *already* do fsck at *every* boot; unfortunately, the result is always the same "Not automatically fixing this."
[12:13] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1: it doesn't show up. There is *-bridge, with the logical name eth0, but no wireless card
[12:13] <b0rt> i got problems with apt, how may i unblock sources.list to correct the wrong lines?
[12:13] <vegasmcpc> actually, cpk1, i just went in through the gui and chose edit as root from the actions menu
[12:13] <vegasmcpc> brb, gotta reboot
[12:13] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: do sudo lshw
[12:13] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: why?
[12:14] <b0rt> how can i edit sources.list ?
[12:14] <b0rt> any1 could tell me?
[12:14] <cpk1> b0rt: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:14] <b0rt> huh thanks ^^
[12:14] <crazy_penguin> Hello
[12:14] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1: same results
[12:15] <cpk1> I hate troubleshooting wireless cards ><
[12:15] <b0rt> whats "kdesu" btw cpk1
[12:15] <cpk1> kde su
[12:15] <Jucato> !kdesu | b0rt
[12:15] <ubotu> b0rt: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[12:15] <dettoaltrimenti_> b0rt if you want to know what something does, look at the manual. in the terminal, type "man (whatever" like "man kdesu"
[12:16] <b0rt> thanks =)
[12:16] <b0rt> sorry im so newb
[12:16] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: see if eth0 can scan (iwlist scan)
[12:16] <b0rt> but it didnt work
[12:16] <dettoaltrimenti_> it's ok... manual reading is one of the major pastimes of linux users
[12:16] <b0rt> b0rt@b0rtsh0p:~$ kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:16] <b0rt> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[12:17] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1: interface doesn't support scanning for 'lo' and 'eth0', eth1: no scan results
[12:17] <Jucato> b0rt: ignore those X Error: BadDevice messages
[12:17] <b0rt> ok i ignore but still cant edit sources list
[12:17] <cpk1> but why doesnt lshw know what it is!
[12:17] <cpk1> argh
[12:18] <cpk1> b0rt: why not?
[12:18] <b0rt> Failed to open device
[12:18] <b0rt> after that error
[12:18] <Jucato> b0rt: Kate doesn't launch?
[12:18] <b0rt> doesnt
[12:18] <dettoaltrimenti_> b0rt: it should prompt you fore your password after the errors, then give some more errors then pop up
[12:18] <b0rt> may I paste 10 lines error?
[12:19] <cpk1> b0rt: no, use pastebin
[12:19] <Jucato> !pastebin | b0rt
[12:19] <ubotu> b0rt: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:19] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1: I tried configuring the card using the instructions here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 using ndiswrapper
[12:19] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: how do you know you needed ndiswrapper? do you already know what kind of card it is?
[12:20] <flippy> exactly what do i need to type in the console to do an md5sum for this file on my desktop?xandros-41-professional-installation-trial.zipr this...
[12:20] <alfatau> hello, i installed a fresh kubuntu. i would want my wireless card starts turned off at bootstrap, while now everytime i've to turn it off. what could i do?
[12:20] <vegasmcpc> sound driver works!!!!
[12:20] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1 I googled 'hp pavilion dv6000 wireless ubuntu' and it seemed like a lot of people had the same problem as me, and this was a solution
[12:20] <vegasmcpc> thank you all so much
[12:20] <b0rt> cpk1:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6201/
[12:20] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1 but I can find out the type of card if you need to know
[12:21] <flippy>  md5sum Desktop/xandros-41-professional-installation-trial.zip
[12:21] <b0rt> Jucato: any idea why i cant edit the file?
[12:22] <flippy>  md5sum Desktop/xandros-41-professional-installation-trial.zip
[12:22] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: that is a pretty old post =P
[12:22] <flippy> got it now
[12:22] <flippy> its checking
[12:22] <_Ace2016_> Hi all
[12:22] <_Ace2016_> anyone know where i can get an ogm video? a video in ogm format of anything
[12:22] <b0rt> i got an error trying to update, install or remove saying line 42 isnt rite
[12:22] <_Ace2016_> but not porn
[12:22] <Jucato> b0rt: not really.. try this. in Konqueror, go to /etc/apt/ then right-click on the sources.list file, select Actions -> Edit as Root
[12:22] <b0rt> i think i added edgy repository by accident
[12:22] <cpk1> _Ace2016_: make one yourself?
[12:23] <_Ace2016_> cpk1: how?
[12:23] <vegasmcpc> what repository do i need for mplayer?
[12:23] <vegasmcpc> it says multiverse repository in the faq
[12:23] <Jucato_> !info mplayer | vegasmcpc
[12:23] <ubotu> vegasmcpc: mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3461 kB, installed size 8624 kB
[12:24] <vegasmcpc> !component multiverse
[12:24] <cpk1> _Ace2016_: ffmpeg should convert a video you have to ogm
[12:24] <vegasmcpc> damn didn't work
[12:24] <_Ace2016_> cpk1: how?
[12:24] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: it would be nice to be certain of what we are dealing with =P
[12:25] <flippy> ok the num
[12:25] <_Ace2016_> cpk1: know how i can convert an mpeg to ogm?
[12:25] <crystufer2000> !flash
[12:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:25] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[12:26] <cpk1> _Ace2016_: first, do you have ffmpeg?
[12:26] <b0rt> Jucato_: it w0rked just fine =) thanks
[12:26] <vegasmcpc> i just need to know how to add the component multiverse
[12:26] <_Ace2016_> yes
[12:26] <vegasmcpc> !samba
[12:26] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:26] <alfatau> hello, i installed a fresh kubuntu. i would want my wireless card starts turned off at bootstrap, while now everytime i've to turn it off by pressing the wifi button on my laptop. what could i do?
[12:27] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: but i guess we can double check to make sure the drivers installed correctly with ndiswrapper. does ndiswrapper -l show the correct driver?
[12:28] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1: no, it says bcmwl5a: invalid driver!
[12:28] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1: I'm also trying to find the name of the wireless card for you
[12:28] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: well that could be the first problem =)
[12:30] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1 I still can't find a site saying what the card is, but I've read a lot of posts saying that the dv6000 has a 'broadcom' wireless card
[12:32] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: there are lots of broadcoms, but we might as well remove the nonworking driver do sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5a
[12:32] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: then put all the files from the windows driver .exe into one folder
[12:32] <cpk1> or if its just an inf put it into a folder
[12:34] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1 it was in lshw, sorry :) *-network DISABLED broadcom corporation- do you need any other info from lshw?
[12:34] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: product?
[12:35] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1: it just says Broadcom Corporation
[12:35] <cpk1> pciid?
[12:36] <_Ace2016_> cpk1: i did it, using mencoder
[12:36] <dettoaltrimenti_> physical id: 0; serial: 00:14a5:cf:71:be cpk1
[12:36] <crystufer2000> OMFG!!! Beryl is amazing!
[12:36] <vegasmcpc> i was trying to mount a windows share and i got this error:
[12:36] <vegasmcpc> [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[12:36] <vegasmcpc> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //<IP_ADDRESS>/Storage,
[12:36] <vegasmcpc>        missing codepage or other error
[12:36] <vegasmcpc>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[12:36] <vegasmcpc>        dmesg | tail  or so
[12:36] <crystufer2000> !java
[12:36] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:37] <andremarte> !ntfs-3g
[12:37] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:37] <crystufer2000> !multiverse
[12:37] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:37] <extern> how can I set the gamma in xorg.conf file? If I set it through system settings->monitor & display->gamma, then it ruins my xorg.conf file and next time I restart my computer, the monitor doesn't show anything. I've set "gamma 1.17" in the monitor section, but when the kde starts, the monitor still displays it incorrectly, while monitor & display settings show the gamma value as 1.17. If I move the slider back and forth, so it is still 1.17 and
[12:37] <extern> push apply, then everything is displayed properly
[12:39] <b0rt> how is supossed to be installed a graphics driver, i see a install.sh in the driver folder...
[12:39] <extern> add execute permission to install.sh and run it
[12:39] <extern> chmod +x install.sh
[12:40] <andremarte> !italiano
[12:40] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: businfo numbers
[12:40] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:40] <b0rt> extern it has x permission
[12:41] <extern> then run it
[12:41] <b0rt> sorry to be such an idiot... how??
[12:41] <andremarte> !chat
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[12:41] <extern> either clicck it
[12:41] <extern> or go to its location in konsole
[12:41] <extern> and type ./install.sh
[12:41] <andremarte> !italia chat
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[12:42] <b0rt> thanks! ^^ (clicking didnt w0rk)
[12:42] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1: pci@03:00.0
[12:43] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: get this driver http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=ob-45290-1&lc=en&cc=sg&dlc=en&product=3245619&os=228&lang=en
[12:44] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1: should I unzip it and get certain files?
[12:44] <b0rt> extern: it run, then ask, then fails to install : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6203/
[12:44] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: once you get it unzip it all into a folder like I_hate_broadcom or something
[12:44] <b0rt> no compiler
[12:44] <b0rt> :S
[12:45] <dettoaltrimenti_> heh
[12:45] <extern> type in konsole sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:45] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: you already removed the old driver right?
[12:45] <b0rt> ic...
[12:46] <b0rt> ^.^U
[12:47] <b0rt> damnit it keeps failing on driver install
[12:47] <shinigami> !nvidia
[12:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:47] <noel> Greetings folks. Are there any ALSA helpers out there?
[12:48] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1: what was the last thing you said? I have the files on a folder on my desktop now
[12:49] <b0rt> its not ati or nvidia its intel gm915
[12:49] <b0rt> on laptop
[12:49] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: did you remove the old driver you tried installing previously?
[12:49] <b0rt> cannot compile intel driver http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6205/
[12:50] <extern> you probably need to install kernel headers and kernel sources packages
[12:50] <extern> find them with adept
[12:50] <noel> I am trying to get ROSEGARDEN up and running. My problem is the soundcard. I need an aLSA driver. Here is the link, but where is the driver-file? http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=C-Media&card=.&chip=CMI8338%2C+CMI8738%2C+CMI8768&module=cmipci
[12:50] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 yes
[12:51] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: so ndiswrapper -l returns nothing?
[12:52] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 it returns device (14U4:4311) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx) should I get rid of that one too?
[12:52] <noel> C Media 18738/pci for those interested.
[12:52] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: thats the linux driver... do this echo 'blacklist bcm43xx' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:54] <b0rt> wow how wise u are
[12:54] <b0rt> =P
[12:55] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1: ok it says 'blacklist bcm43xx'
[12:55] <noel> help
[12:55] <b0rt> extern:  do i have to reb00t for kernels?
[12:55] <b0rt> i installed latest and keep me saying same thing
[12:56] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: "cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" to make sure it says bcm43xx is blacklisted then reboot to disable it (that file only affects things at boot)
[12:56] <Linux_Galore> noel: if you have alsa and you do the driver is already there
[12:57] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1: it shows up. Also is i2c_i801- I shouldn't worry about that should I
[12:57] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: probably not heh
[12:58] <Linux_Galore> noel: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic/include/config/snd/cmipci
[12:58] <noel> Linux_Galore: ROSEGARDEN says no driver?
[12:59] <Linux_Galore> noel: who cares the driver is there, check yourself
[12:59] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 ok restarted
[12:59] <Linux_Galore> noel: when is rosegarden complaing ??
[12:59] <noel> Linux_Galore: if the driver is there, would you have any suggestions for getting it to be recognised by ROSEGARDEN?
[01:00] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: ok sudo ndiswrapper - i path/to/file.inf
[01:00] <cpk1> -i
[01:00] <cpk1> ignore that space i put in on accident
[01:00] <b0rt> is that what i need? kernel-devel -> This is a dummy package that will install all possible packages required to hack comfortably on the kernel.
[01:00] <Linux_Galore> noel: why does rosegarden need a driver it should just talk to alsa
[01:00] <b0rt> i guess not
[01:01] <Linux_Galore> noel: alsa manages the drivers
[01:01] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 to bcmwl5.inf?
[01:01] <Linux_Galore> noel: did you compile rosegarden or is it a package
[01:01] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: is that what you extracted from the link I gave you?
[01:01] <noel> Linux_Galore: package
[01:01] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 yeah
[01:02] <cpk1> then yes
[01:02] <Linux_Galore> noel: of the ubuntu repo ??
[01:02] <cpk1> and then do ndiswrapper -l to make sure it worked
[01:02] <noel> yes
[01:02] <Linux_Galore> noel: ok does your sound work ?
[01:02] <noel> Linux_Galore:yes
[01:02] <Linux_Galore> noel: then its a settinf problem with rosegarden
[01:03] <noel> Linux_Galore: i shall test the sound now, give me 1 minute.
[01:03] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 when I tried to install the driver it said "Driver bcmwl5 is already installed" and it doesn't show up in ndiswrapper -l
[01:04] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 and now eth1 isn't showing up in network settings :(
[01:06] <P0x90> Hi, there. This is my first try of Kubuntu.  Should I try to restart and see if it works now?
[01:09] <noel> Linux_Galore: no sound!
[01:09] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: no need
[01:09] <cpk1> but its not done yet
[01:09] <dettoaltrimenti> ok
[01:10] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: "sudo depmod -a" then when that finishes "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[01:11] <dettoaltrimenti> ok
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> noel: configure your sound then
[01:12] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: once thats done sudo ifdown eth1 (or whatever the interface is called) and then sudo ifup eth1
[01:13] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1, actually somewhere along the line eth1 disappeared
[01:14] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: try wlan0
[01:14] <dettoaltrimenti> nope cpk1- and it's not showing up in network settings
[01:15] <dettoaltrimenti> but it still shows up on lshw
[01:15] <cpk1> as?
[01:15] <dettoaltrimenti> network UNCLAIMED
[01:17] <cpk1> ndiswrapper -l shows the driver?
[01:17] <dettoaltrimenti> bcmwl5: driver installed; device (14E4:4311) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)
[01:18] <noel> Linux_Galore: OK sound is now happening.
[01:18] <cpk1> urgh
[01:18] <cpk1> the bcm43xx didnt get blacklisted
[01:19] <fannagoganna> hi, wondering if anyone could help me when i install my audio CD
[01:19] <fannagoganna> i get the following error when i try to access the drive, "Device doesn't have read permissions for this account. Check the read permissions on the device."
[01:19] <cpk1> cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist says what dettoaltrimenti?
[01:20] <dettoaltrimenti> at the very bottom it says blacklist bcm43xx (cpk1)
[01:20] <noel> Linux_Galore:ROSEGARDEN gives me the following promt on start-up. "Sequencer startup has failed. MIDI subsystem has failed to initialise."
[01:21] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: the folder with the .inf only has one .inf and .sys right?
[01:21] <mkay__>  hi guys. i installed edgy. my problm is, that my pci and usb dont work. in dapper i have startet with usb=bios pci=bios in the kernel-parameters. how i have to start in edgy?
[01:21] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 no it actually has a lot of .sys files
[01:21] <dettoaltrimenti> should I take out the .inf and .sys files and just put it on the desktop, and then remove and reinstall the driver?
[01:21] <installKubuntu> Hello
[01:22] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 but there is only 1 file named bcmwl5.sys
[01:22] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: yeah just have the .inf and .sys that you are using be in a folder
[01:22] <cpk1> and yes remove and reinstall =X
[01:22] <cpk1> guess I should of made sure of that
[01:23] <installKubuntu> I try to install Kubuntu on my box. I was on Ubuntu just before and I was getting sick of gnome, so I wanted to switch. I installed kubuntu-desktop, but some features didn't work (media manager, etc). So I downloaded a fresh iso of kubuntu-6.10
[01:23] <installKubuntu> Did I say Hello ? :D
[01:23] <installKubuntu> Hello everybody
[01:23] <installKubuntu> So now, my problem is on the mount point selection screen
[01:24] <installKubuntu> I have 1 partition dedicated to the root (/)
[01:24] <installKubuntu> and I got a great message : you don't have root filesystem, select one ...
[01:24] <vegasmcpc> hey guys, i screwed up my computer
[01:25] <vegasmcpc> i installed the dmraid drivers, and now when starting up it says can't find raid disks and kicks me to a command prompt
[01:25] <vegasmcpc> erm
[01:25] <vegasmcpc> termina
[01:25] <vegasmcpc> terminal
[01:25] <vegasmcpc> and...i don't know how to undo what i did
[01:25] <dettoaltrimenti> ok cpk1 I reinstalled doing what you said, did depmod and modprobe, still doesn't show up under iwconfig
[01:26] <noel> HELP anyone please. How do I turn MIDI on? ROSEGARDEN gives me the following promt on start-up. "Sequencer startup has failed. MIDI subsystem has failed to initialise."
[01:26] <cpk1> =S hrmmm
[01:27] <installKubuntu> noel
[01:27] <installKubuntu> try to install timidity I think
[01:28] <vegasmcpc> anybody able to help on the removing a driver issue?
[01:28] <noel> installKubuntu:yes?
[01:28] <vegasmcpc> i can't get into kde
[01:28] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: what is the output of ndiswrapper -l?
[01:28] <noel> installKubuntu: what is timidity?
[01:28] <installKubuntu> noel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiHardwareSynthesisSetup?highlight=%28midi%29, if your card support hardware midi
[01:29] <installKubuntu> noel: and timidity if it doesn't : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo?highlight=%28midi%29
[01:29] <dettoaltrimenti> same as it was before cpk1: bcmwl5: driver installed, alternate driver: bcm43xx(which is the one on the blacklist file)
[01:29] <noel> installKubuntu: thenks I shall have a read :)
[01:29] <installKubuntu> I tried the french tutorial and it did work for me to play midi files
[01:30] <installKubuntu> I d'ont know if the english one will work, but I think so ;)
[01:30] <vegasmcpc> ah fuck it, i haven't done anything much with this one, i'll just reinstall
[01:31] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: nothing else?
[01:32] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 nope
[01:33] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: lshw what does it say the id is now?
[01:33] <installKubuntu> Nobody has an idea for my bugged install of kubuntu ? :'(
[01:33] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 found the problem I think- when I try modprobe, it says FATAL: Module bcmwl5 not found
[01:34] <vegasmcpc> installKubuntu, what's wrong with it?
[01:34] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 the id is still 0
[01:34] <vegasmcpc> i probably won't know, i'm just curious
[01:34] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: yeah that would be bad =)
[01:36] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 and also if this helps in /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper I read "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" and that's it
[01:36] <installKubuntu> vegasmcpc: At the moutpoint selection screen (step 5/6), it tells me that I didn't select a root filesystem mount point
[01:36] <installKubuntu> except that I have one
[01:37] <vegasmcpc> wait, are you doing an upgrade install?
[01:37] <installKubuntu> no
[01:37] <installKubuntu> install, short
[01:37] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: that means it should show up as wlan0 i think
[01:37] <vegasmcpc> what filesystem did you use?
[01:37] <installKubuntu> from my fresh downloaded kubuntu-6.10 CD
[01:37] <cpk1> but wwe are exhausting my knowledge here
[01:37] <installKubuntu> yeah : 1337 hour :D
[01:37] <cpk1> and I am getting tired =\
[01:38] <vegasmcpc> oh, it's 13:37 there?
[01:38] <vegasmcpc> where you from, installKubuntu?
[01:38] <installKubuntu> vegasmcpc: It is reiserfs i Think
[01:38] <installKubuntu> vegasmcpc: from France
[01:38] <installKubuntu> I'll check
[01:38] <vegasmcpc> i'd try reformatting it in ext3 or jfs
[01:39] <installKubuntu> vegasmcpc: yes, reiserfs
[01:39] <vegasmcpc> those are the only filesystems that i've had work, and they never gave me problems
[01:39] <vegasmcpc> if you don't have anything particularly important on the disk, reformat it in ext3 or jfs
[01:39] <installKubuntu> vegasmcpc: :'(, It was working using reiserfs on my ubuntu and debian before :(
[01:39] <installKubuntu> I'll try that
[01:39] <gansinho> please I want to know if the KDE bleeding edge sources are regular sources for KDE or if they have beta packages
[01:39] <vegasmcpc> i might be totally off, i'm pretty much a noob
[01:40] <vegasmcpc> but yea, reiser isn't that much of a performance increase, i'd stick with stuff that's known to work with kubuntu
[01:40] <installKubuntu> no no, nothing important at all... My old root filesystem completely screwed up ... (I've made a great mistake and began to rm -rf in it ... No more /bin, /dev, etc... LOL
[01:40] <SlimG> KTorrent 2.1 only list leechers while seeding a completed torrent, why?
[01:41] <vegasmcpc> if you run the kubuntu livecd reiserfs isn't an option...that's a bad sign for using that filesystem
[01:41] <vegasmcpc> SlimG...you don't have to connect to the seeders, so ktorrent probably doesn't have you connect
[01:41] <vegasmcpc> no reason for it to look for seeders on a torrent you're seeding
[01:42] <noel> installKubuntu: how do I download timidity in ubuntu 6.10?
[01:42] <vegasmcpc> !timidity
[01:42] <ubotu> timidity: Software sound renderer (MIDI sequencer, MOD player). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.13.2-7.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 534 kB, installed size 1716 kB
[01:42] <vegasmcpc> ah...i was wondering what that was
[01:42] <installKubuntu> you must add the universe repository to your sources.list/adept
[01:42] <vegasmcpc> noel, are you connected to the universe and multiverse?
[01:42] <installKubuntu> and then select/install timidity :D
[01:43] <installKubuntu> or maybe timidity++, don't remember the package name
[01:43] <crystufer2000> Hey guys, how do I download something on konquerer without it opening in kate?
[01:43] <cpk1> right click save as
[01:43] <noel> vegasmcpc: according to the repositories I am, but I do not see in in the download manager
[01:43] <vegasmcpc> i don't really like konqueror
[01:43] <SlimG> vegasmcpc: When i have shared my ratio (>1) I need to see that there's other seeders available at the torrent so it won't die when i remove the torrent from seeding
[01:44] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: sorry but i think this might be beyond my expertise =\
[01:44] <installKubuntu> vegasmcpc: that was the reiserfs ! Thanks. How can I report a "bug" ?
[01:44] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: might be worth trying a newer ndiswrapper?
[01:44] <vegasmcpc> idk that it's necessarily a bug...i think that it's just a lack of support
[01:44] <crystufer2000> cpk1: That won't work when it's  php or whatever.
[01:44] <installKubuntu> vegasmcpc: that's why I used " :D
[01:44] <vegasmcpc> but i'm not sure how to...i've only been using this stuff for like 2 days
[01:44] <installKubuntu> ok
[01:45] <vegasmcpc> i know the install process pretty well, seeing as i've screwed up a few times and just said screw it and reinstalled
[01:45] <noel> installKubuntu: cannot find timidity!
[01:45] <vegasmcpc> lol...first time i did it i think i misspelled what i wanted for a user name
[01:45] <installKubuntu> noel: did you add the universe repository ?
[01:45] <vegasmcpc> couldn't get in
[01:46] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1, I have the newest but I'm going to uninstall everything and try again fresh, see if the same steps work. Losing eth1 on iwconfig worries me though- I hope I get that back when I uninstall everything
[01:46] <noel> installKubuntu: I think i have always had the universe repository.
[01:46] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: the interface didnt work anyways...
[01:46] <vegasmcpc> man, i wish there was support for my newer wireless card in my laptop
[01:46] <vegasmcpc> noel
[01:46] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 and also can you tell me where modprobe.conf is supposed to be?
[01:46] <vegasmcpc> add multiverse
[01:47] <installKubuntu> vegasmcpc: ROFL .... It is now saying : creation of the reiserfs filesystem for the / mountpoint
[01:47] <vegasmcpc> o.O
[01:47] <installKubuntu> vegasmcpc: I find the whole filesystem partitioning flags is a mess
[01:47] <vegasmcpc> installKubuntu...use hd-kill every time you reformat
[01:48] <vegasmcpc> gets rid of everything
[01:48] <vegasmcpc> takes a few minutes extra, but less bs
[01:48] <gansinho> please, someon that installed Kubuntu (I used to have ubuntu and installed kubuntu-desktop via apt-get) could say to me if the repo deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main is in the sources, please!
[01:48] <installKubuntu> vegasmcpc: In cfdisk, it'll show you that your fs is a reiser one, even if you formatted it as a ext3 using mkfs.ext3 ...
[01:48] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: hah guess what has been staring me in the face this whole time
[01:48] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[01:49] <installKubuntu> don't have it on the kubuntu cd
[01:49] <installKubuntu> but i'll remember
[01:49] <installKubuntu> I think there are too much data duplication for the partitions/fs
[01:49] <installKubuntu> And they can be totally different
[01:49] <vegasmcpc> yea, it's the exact same problem that they have when reformatting for winblows...sometimes you'll end up having like 2 or 3 windows options when you start up
[01:49] <vegasmcpc> yup
[01:49] <installKubuntu> this is how i screwed my old LVM system ...
[01:50] <vegasmcpc> best to completely fdisk or hd-kill stuff like that
[01:50] <vegasmcpc> lvm?
[01:50] <installKubuntu> Logical Volum Manager
[01:50] <vegasmcpc> ah
[01:50] <installKubuntu> I got one with 2 partition over 2 disks
[01:50] <vegasmcpc> man...i just reinstalled kubuntu, now i get to play with the sound card again
[01:50] <vegasmcpc> that sucked
[01:50] <installKubuntu> and the old fs flags was : reiserfs .
[01:51] <installKubuntu> So ubuntu at the install detected those /dev/hd partition as reiserfs fs, and not as part of LVM
[01:52] <installKubuntu> ubuntu put them in the /etc/fstab... And at each boot, i got errors while those blocks devices where scanned ... Since they were part of the LVM, some directories pointed to data stored ine the other partition
[01:52] <Hrvoje> how can i limit upload bandwith on specific port ?
[01:52] <installKubuntu> I didn't verify if those devices were those on the LVM and I did a fsck.reiserfs --rebuild-tree on each ... 40 GB data screwed, yay
[01:53] <installKubuntu> Hrvoje: With the software you use, if it can do it. Otherwise you may install Quality of Service (QoS) package and maybe recompile your kernel :/
[01:54] <Hrvoje> installKubuntu: can i do it somehow with iptables?
[01:54] <installKubuntu> Hrvoje: I wanted the same feature, and that what we told me... I looked a little in documentation, and it was huge... So I gave up
[01:54] <installKubuntu> Hrvoje: maybe with a patch for iptable to support QoS, but not iptables raw
[01:54] <installKubuntu> I think
[01:55] <installKubuntu> I didn't look for 2 years about this problem
[01:55] <installKubuntu> it may have changed :D
[01:55] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 excellent
[01:55] <Hrvoje> why is it so complicated?
[01:55] <Hrvoje> i only want to limit my outbound trafic on port 5555 to 100KB/s
[01:55] <installKubuntu> Because the kernel and iptables dev didn't think it was a killer feature for everybody
[01:55] <Hrvoje> on eth0
[01:55] <noel> installKubuntu: i have added universe, multiverse, and still cannot see "Timidity"?
[01:55] <installKubuntu> Hrvoje: I understand you right, i wanted the same
[01:56] <installKubuntu> noel : did you make an update ?
[01:56] <gansinho> installKubuntu: please help me, I'm asking here for a long time and I just need a simple info... my english is not very good and I just want to knwo if the  repo deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main has final versions of the packages ( a stable repository for kubuntu) or if it's filled with "beta" packages
[01:56] <Hrvoje> installKubuntu: i'm using ubuntu as internet gateway, so users kill my connection, so i want to limit global bandwith...
[01:56] <installKubuntu> gansinho: sorry, i don't know if 'ill help you :/ I really don't know
[01:57] <installKubuntu> Hrvoje: buy a server with unlimited bandwitdh
[01:57] <installKubuntu> just joking ;D
[01:57] <Hrvoje> installKubuntu: XD
[01:57] <ulises> alguien habla espaol??
[01:57] <gansinho> installKubuntu: why? I said something wrong?
[01:57] <installKubuntu> I got the same problem, i wanted to limit my apache2 server, but ... It was too long to do it. But maybe it is simpler
[01:58] <vegasmcpc> anybody in here know how to set up software raid?
[01:58] <installKubuntu> gansinho: lol no, but i don't know your repository :D
[01:58] <installKubuntu> gansinho: I use the base ubuntu.com repository
[01:59] <vegasmcpc> !raid
[01:59] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:59] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 ok wlan0 is showing up, the card is working! and I set up my pppoeconf for the wireless router... but when I try to connect to the wireless it says 'connection failed.' I'm extremely close. any ideas?
[01:59] <installKubuntu> lvm is great \o/
[01:59] <gansinho> installKubuntu: and could you check please if this repo is by default in your sources?
[01:59] <installKubuntu> I'm still on the live CD lol :
[01:59] <installKubuntu> :D
[01:59] <installKubuntu> i'll check
[01:59] <gansinho> thanks!
[02:00] <Alllex> Hey everyone- can anyone tell me how I can compiler Java on Kubuntu 6.10?
[02:00] <installKubuntu> no, i get : archive.ubuntu.com
[02:00] <installKubuntu> to compile java ?
[02:00] <installKubuntu> with the javac command
[02:00] <installKubuntu> you can have it with some jdk packages
[02:00] <dettoaltrimenti> alllex: open adept and type in java compiler
[02:00] <Alllex> K
[02:00] <noel> installKubuntu: System,Administration,Software Sources.
[02:00] <vegasmcpc> installKubuntu, is lvm what i'm going to want for software raid?
[02:01] <gansinho> installKubuntu: thanks!
[02:01] <installKubuntu> It can do it
[02:01] <noel> installKubuntu: Now I am using the synaptic package manager
[02:01] <installKubuntu> But i think the soft raid is better for that
[02:01] <dettoaltrimenti> gcj is a good graphic compiler
[02:01] <installKubuntu> ok noel
[02:01] <vegasmcpc> basically, i want to make sure that if this motherboard dies after it's out of manufacturing, i want to be able to take the raid5 array out and use it on another mobo
[02:01] <vegasmcpc> soft raid...do i get that through adept?
[02:02] <installKubuntu> don't know :D
[02:02] <installKubuntu> never used it
[02:02] <vegasmcpc> what do you use lvm for?
[02:02] <installKubuntu> I always raw partition or LVm
[02:02] <vegasmcpc> brb, switching back to my freshly resurrected linux box
[02:02] <Alllex> Whenever I try to "Run as root" It says the password is wrong- even after I do "sudo passwd root"?
[02:02] <installKubuntu> but with lvm on 2 disk, you can use the strip mode (one data go one 1 disk, 1 data on another).. So it looks like raid for me
[02:03] <mart81> have we all voted already?
[02:03] <installKubuntu> Alllex: sudo su ; passwd
[02:03] <dettoaltrimenti> how can I check if my wlan0 is connected to the router through the terminal?
[02:04] <installKubuntu> sudo su => you'll log into root mode. Then, as root, you change the root passwd :)
[02:04] <installKubuntu> dettoaltrimenti: sudo iwconfig
[02:04] <installKubuntu> dettoaltrimenti: sudo iwconfig wlan0
[02:04] <Alllex> Ah, I've done that. Now it says "Conversation with su failed"?
[02:04] <installKubuntu> and if you see AP : 01:23:...., then you're connected
[02:05] <installKubuntu> Alllex: my command was some bad ass one, sorry
[02:06] <installKubuntu> juste type sudo su, then in the root prompt, type passwd
[02:06] <Alllex> k?
[02:06] <Alllex> "sudo su" doesn't do anything for me?
[02:06] <installKubuntu> really ?
[02:06] <installKubuntu> that's bad :D
[02:06] <pagux> I am back on public demand
[02:06] <installKubuntu> what does it do ?
[02:07] <Alllex> Nothing- it just goes blank for a milli-second and then it comes uyp with the "$" again..
[02:07] <installKubuntu> yes
[02:07] <installKubuntu> type id :
[02:07] <installKubuntu> id
[02:07] <milian> hello, how do I change the language kmail checks my spelling in? I usually write german mails which get checked correctly but as soon as I write english mails, pretty much all is red ;) I cant find the proper configuration...
[02:08] <Alllex> K
[02:08] <installKubuntu> Alllex: what does it tell you ?
[02:08] <Alllex> I'm root for "Gid" "Uid" and "Groups"
[02:08] <installKubuntu> ok, the you're root
[02:08] <installKubuntu> then **
[02:08] <milian> in the language dropdown of the spell checker window I only see ngerman, ndeutsch and ogerman and odeutsch
[02:08] <milian> ...
[02:08] <installKubuntu> so type : passwd
[02:08] <installKubuntu> and you can change the root passwd ;)
[02:09] <Alllex> Ah K
[02:09] <installKubuntu> milian: maybe there is a package to install ?
[02:09] <Alllex> Still says "Conversation with us failed"?
[02:09] <installKubuntu> milian: maybe aspell-en, or so ?
[02:09] <milian> well, I'm already searching for the appropriate package which could be missing but I dont have a clue
[02:09] <installKubuntu> milian: i'll check
[02:10] <milian> i'll too
[02:10] <milian> aspell-en is installed
[02:10] <installKubuntu> Alllex: conversation with us failed ?
[02:11] <milian> ah, i think I got it - i have to pick aspell in kcontrol for spell checking
[02:11] <installKubuntu> Alllex: can you copy paste your terminal from the time you type sudo su, and then change the passwd please ?
[02:11] <Alllex> Sorry- it's "Conversationg with SU failed"
[02:11] <Alllex> k
[02:13] <Alllex> root@alex-desktop:/home/alex# sudo su
[02:13] <Alllex> root@alex-desktop:/home/alex# passwd
[02:13] <Alllex> Enter new UNIX password:
[02:13] <Alllex> Retype new UNIX password:
[02:13] <Alllex> passwd: password updated successfully
[02:13] <Alllex> root@alex-desktop:/home/alex#
[02:13] <milian> yes, installKubuntu - it works now
[02:13] <milian> thanks :)
[02:13] <installKubuntu> milian: great :D I couldn't even try to look for it as i was doing smthg else
[02:14] <Alllex> I'm certain it's something to do with the time I accidently changed my username without changing the home directory and couldn't log in. Ever since I sorted that problem this has happened...
[02:15] <Alllex> Is there anyway I can just reinstall Kubuntu?
[02:15] <installKubuntu> Alllex: yes, plug the CD :D
[02:15] <mart81> have we all voted yet on fridge?
[02:15] <installKubuntu> Alllex: but what's your problem ?
[02:15] <Alllex> But if I wipe the Kubuntu Partition- what will happen to the GRUB loader?! :(
[02:16] <Lynoure> Is there BasKet 0.6 or newer available for dapper from anywhere?
[02:16] <Hobbsee> Alllex: grub will be installed again at the end of the partitioner
[02:16] <Alllex> My problem is I can no longer use as root in KDE. Only the console no matter what I do
[02:16] <Alllex> Okay
[02:16] <installKubuntu> the grub base system is on the MBR i think, so it's safe ... Until it tries to read the /boot/grub/menu.lst, and it will fail then :D
[02:16] <Alllex> SO, If I wipe the partition- will Windows regain control of Boot?
[02:16] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: not dapper. there's 1.0 out.  probably debs on the basket site
[02:17] <installKubuntu> Alllex: using kde as root is a VERY BAD idea ;)
[02:17] <Alllex> But what about when I need to access Adept?
[02:17] <Alllex> Or system settings?#
[02:17] <installKubuntu> oh ... kdesu doesn't work ?
[02:17] <installKubuntu> that's odd
[02:17] <Alllex> Yup
[02:18] <installKubuntu> try : kdesu adept ?
[02:18] <installKubuntu> in console, as normal user
[02:18] <Alllex> root@alex-desktop:/home/alex# kdesu adept
[02:18] <Alllex> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[02:18] <Alllex> Xlib: No protocol specified
[02:18] <Alllex> kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[02:18] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: nope, no debs or even rpms on http://basket.kde.org/download.php
[02:18] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: I know they used to have 0.60 for dapper there, but not anymore.
[02:21] <installKubuntu> Alllex: normal
[02:21] <installKubuntu> your aren't in a normal user prompt/console.. Look : root@alex-desktop:/home/alex# , it is written "root" at the beginning ;)
[02:22] <installKubuntu> And when you (alex) is connected on KDE, the root doesn't have any acces ;)
[02:22] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: grab the feisty source, compile it for dapper
[02:22] <installKubuntu> Alllex: just open another konsole :)
[02:22] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: not worth it for me yet for an app I do not know I'll like. But thanks anyway.
[02:23] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: doesnt take long to build.  and it's very useful
[02:23] <Lynoure> I was just hoping someone would know where the deb is as it does exist.
[02:23] <Alllex> alex@alex-desktop:~$ kdesu adept
[02:23] <Hobbsee> afaik, it doesnt.  and no, i'm not about to build one :)
[02:23] <Alllex> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[02:23] <Alllex>   Major opcode:  146
[02:23] <Hobbsee> Alllex: you can ignroe that error
[02:23] <Alllex>   Minor opcode:  3
[02:23] <Alllex>   Resource id:  0x0
[02:24] <Alllex> Failed to open device
[02:24] <Alllex> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[02:24] <Alllex>   Major opcode:  146
[02:24] <Alllex>   Minor opcode:  3
[02:24] <Alllex>   Resource id:  0x0
[02:24] <Alllex> Failed to open device
[02:24] <Alllex> alex@alex-desktop:~$
[02:24] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: The moment I get a new hd I'll go to edgy, etch or feisty, and that has it anyway
[02:24] <fdoving> !paste | alllex
[02:24] <ubotu> alllex: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:24] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: edgy doesnt.
[02:24] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: edgy doesnt even have 0.6, iirc
[02:24] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: oh, well, etch or feisty :)
[02:25] <installKubuntu> Alllex: try : sudo adept
[02:25] <Guardian> hello, usb auto mounting stoped working after kde 3.5.5 update, is there a known solution to this problem ?
[02:30] <Edulix> hi
[02:30] <Edulix> Guardian: uhm, it works here
[02:31] <Alllex> Ah forget it... I'll just reinstall Kubuntu. All I want to know is; if I delete everything on my Kubuntu partition- will Windows XP (I'm runnign both) take over boot again?
[02:32] <Hobbsee> Alllex: no it wont
[02:32] <Hobbsee> Alllex: when you install kubuntu again, grub will be written to the MBR, again
[02:32] <Guardian> Edulix: glad for you :)
[02:33] <Edulix> hehe yes
[02:34] <ventje> Hello
[02:35] <noel> installKubuntu: I have downloaded and installed "timidity", but I cannot see it in "Applications/Sound and Video", nor can I see it in "Applications, add/remove"?
[02:37] <noel> installKubuntu: Why does the synapic package manager let me see "timidity " for download, yet "Application,add/remove" doesn't?
[02:39] <ostlund> i installed kubuntu from the live-cd, but the installer hanged in the end when it should download the list of updates......i restarted the computer and kbuntu was installed fine, but is there something wich dont where installed beacuse i exit the install?
[02:40] <Horst> hi
[02:41] <Horst> does somebody know how i can disable eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces ? (deleting auto before eth0 causes problems )
[02:41] <Horst> THX
[02:44] <Hobbsee> Horst: put a # in front of it
[02:45] <vegasmcpc> i'm trying to install kubuntu onto a desktop with an ati radeon x1900gt...i had it installed with the onboard vga card, but with the x1900 it won't
[02:45] <Horst> @Hobbsee, I don't wanna eth0 completly put out
[02:46] <Hobbsee> Horst: so...you want to disable it, but you dont?
[02:46] <vegasmcpc> when i put in the livedvd it will get up to the install options, and when i try either start livecd or start livecd in safe graphics mode it doesn't work
[02:46] <stamen> hi
[02:46] <stamen> can 3ddesktop work with beryl
[02:46] <installKubuntu> noel : sorry I was away
[02:46] <stamen> thme
[02:46] <stamen> theme
[02:46] <vegasmcpc> it'll have a flashing cursor in the upper left for about 3 seconds and then it dies
[02:46] <vegasmcpc> monitor then says no signal
[02:46] <stamen> or it works only with XGL?
[02:46] <Horst> @Hobbsee: I don't want to disable, i want that eth1 is my first and standard interface
[02:47] <Hobbsee> Horst: then just comment the auto eth0 out
[02:47] <vegasmcpc> any ideas?
[02:47] <Hobbsee> with a # in front
[02:47] <Hobbsee> stamen: ask in #beryl
[02:48] <stamen> ok
[02:48] <installKubuntu> noel: add/remove list some of the most used programs. Synaptic just show them all
[02:48] <Horst> @hobbsee but i will use sometime eth0 cause eth0 is lan and eth1 wlan
[02:49] <installKubuntu> noel: and timidity is just a command line program
[02:49] <Schuenemann> is there a program that can mount a virtual CD drive, like windows alcohol 120% does?
[02:49] <installKubuntu> that's why it may not be in the menu
[02:49] <noel> installKubuntu: so how do I run it?
[02:50] <weedar> seems my ISPs dns server is down, can I just add one manually to resolv.conf?
[02:51] <BluesKaj> there iso-maker progs that do the same thing as alky 120% , Schuenemann
[02:51] <Hobbsee> Horst: install knetworkmanager - it will automate a lot of it
[02:51] <Hobbsee> Schuenemann: check man mount
[02:51] <installKubuntu> noel: did you read the wiki ? :)
[02:51] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, like testing an image without having to burn it?
[02:51] <installKubuntu> noel: All is written in it
[02:52] <noel> installKubuntu: I shall now.
[02:52] <installKubuntu> I won't say you more ;) Because I don't know more lol
[02:52] <Schuenemann> Hobbsee, can that be used to mount CD images?
[02:53] <Horst> @hobbsee:  My /etc/network/interfaces and WPA PSK Settings won't be removed?
[02:53] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, yes ...forgotten the names , but if you google
[02:53] <Hobbsee> Horst: no - but you will need to type your passphrase into knetworkmanager when it prompts you
[02:54] <Hobbsee> Schuenemann: any iso file, yeah
[02:54] <Schuenemann> Hobbsee, iso, cue... ?
[02:54] <crazy_bus> I was thinking of buying a cd with comics on it.  However the comics are in pdf format.  Is there any software to extract the images to a better format?
[02:55] <Horst> ok
[02:55] <Hobbsee> Schuenemann: should all be covered in man mount
[02:56] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, I'm not sure about other progs but i have some video iso files that will open & play in VLC
[02:59] <olioBeato`> crazy, try foxit reader
[03:02] <crazy_bus> isn't that for windows olioBeato`?
[03:02] <weedar> I'm able to use IRC, Skype and ping domain, but I can't surf with firefox and wget can't get files either. Any idea what could be wrong?
[03:02] <BluesKaj> hmm , I keep getting a message in the terminal that line 18 in /etcfstab is bad ...this line 18  and the last charater in the line a "0" is in red . how do i fix this ? /dev/partition /media/mount point ntfs-3g silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[03:03] <smoze> seems like http is not working
[03:04] <Schuenemann> weedar, have you tried not using domain names? like http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:07] <weedar> Schuenemann: I've tried that also, does not work. I am able to access the web-interface of my router, though
[03:07] <smoze> what kind of router?
[03:07] <weedar> It's a belkin pre-n wireless
[03:08] <smoze> dsl router?
[03:09] <weedar> no, there's a dsl-modem connected to it
[03:09] <weedar> Hm, I'll try rebooting the router, see if that helps
[03:10] <smoze> try to reboot both
[03:11] <Schuenemann> Hobbsee, do you what type of filesystem is a CUE file? I don't see any related in man mount
[03:11] <Schuenemann> do you know*
[03:11] <igor> hi
[03:11] <weedar_> that did it! restarting the router was all that I needed
[03:11] <weedar_> sorry for bothering you guys :)
[03:12] <Hobbsee> Schuenemann: iso9660 maybe- not sure about .cue files
[03:12] <Hobbsee> .iso is definetly iso9660
[03:12] <smoze> np
[03:16] <igor> reboot
[03:18] <igor> ok
[03:18] <noel> installKubuntu: Thanks for your help. Goodnight.
[03:20] <igor> good
[03:24] <dettoaltrimenti> when I scroll up and down in Firefox (and in pretty much any program) it's really choppy and it seems to reload the entire page every time I move the scrollbar- can anyone help?
[03:25] <DjDarkman> hy ,how can I set KDM to autologin for my user?
[03:26] <atidem> DjDarkman: System Settings --> Login Manager --> Convenience
[03:27] <DjDarkman> thank you
[03:29] <problema-rede> I have only 1 network card but it is named eth1
[03:30] <problema-rede> how i resolv this problem?
[03:31] <problema-rede> help
[03:31] <Hobbsee> problema-rede: just use eth1?
[03:32] <problema-rede> but the knetdockapp only have options "lo , eth0, sit0"
[03:32] <problema-rede> how i make eth1 to eth0?
[03:33] <weedar_> Is there a good kde ftpclient that supports tls?
[03:33] <Jucato> !ftp
[03:33] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[03:35] <weedar_> all of those support tls Jucato?
[03:36] <problema-rede> I had two network cards. One onboard and another off-board. I removed off-board and alone on-board, but linux left the only one that it was as eth1. How to make this only network card to be eth0?
[03:36] <BluesKaj> Firefox has an FTP addon"FireFTP"
[03:36] <Jucato> I think Konqueror does
[03:37] <Schuenemann> kftpgrabber
[03:37] <Schuenemann> !kftpgrabber
[03:37] <ubotu> kftpgrabber: KDE FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.0beta1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 989 kB, installed size 2792 kB
[03:39] <igor> hi
[03:40] <atidem> problema-rede: add to '/etc/modules.conf' line 'alias eth0 driver_name'
[03:41] <mart81> ok, weird question but here it comes... is there a keyboard shortcut in konsole the wipe the whole line you've just typed?
[03:43] <problema-rede> atidem: but i have only 1 network e not exist line alis eth1 driver_name
[03:43] <problema-rede> # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
[03:43] <problema-rede> #
[03:43] <problema-rede> # This file contains the names of kernel modules that should be loaded
[03:44] <problema-rede> # at boot time, one per line. Lines beginning with "#" are ignored.
[03:44] <problema-rede> lp
[03:44] <problema-rede> # Generated by sensors-detect on Thu Feb  8 10:43:21 2007
[03:44] <problema-rede> # I2C adapter drivers
[03:44] <problema-rede> # modprobe unknown adapter NVIDIA i2c adapter 0 at 1:00.0
[03:44] <problema-rede> # modprobe unknown adapter NVIDIA i2c adapter 1 at 1:00.0
[03:44] <problema-rede> # modprobe unknown adapter NVIDIA i2c adapter 2 at 1:00.0
[03:44] <problema-rede> i2c-sis96x
[03:44] <problema-rede> # I2C chip drivers
[03:44] <problema-rede> eeprom
[03:44] <problema-rede> w83781d
[03:44] <problema-rede> # Warning: the required module smbus-arp is not currently installed on your system.
[03:44] <problema-rede> # For status of 2.6 kernel ports see http://secure.netroedge.com/~lm78/supported.html
[03:44] <problema-rede> # If driver is built-in to the kernel, or unavailable, comment out the following line.
[03:44] <problema-rede> smbus-arp
[03:44] <problema-rede> it is my modules file
[03:45] <gnomefreak> problema-rede: use pastebin please
[03:45] <problema-rede> what is pastebin ?
[03:45] <gnomefreak> !pastebin | problema-rede
[03:46] <ubotu> problema-rede: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:46] <problema-rede> ok
[03:46] <larson9999> problema-rede: err, read the topic of the channels you join at least
[03:46] <problema-rede> ok,
[03:47] <atidem> problema-rede: which part of my phrase is not clear?
[03:48] <Schuenemann> !cdrdao
[03:48] <ubotu> cdrdao: records CDs in Disk-At-Once (DAO) mode. In component main, is extra. Version 1:1.2.1-6ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 400 kB, installed size 1092 kB
[03:58] <flippy> hello all
[03:59] <MoonAngel> kde forever
[03:59] <Dr_willis> howdy
[04:00] <flippy> cpk1 are you still here?
[04:00] <problema-rede> atidem: by default, linux use eth0 when only have 1 network card. Why I my computer not?
[04:01] <atidem> problema-rede: probably, you have installed kubuntu when the system had two nics
[04:03] <problema-rede> yes, one onboard e another offboard. But I removed the off-board, and now the only network card is named eth1. How I return to default (eth0 for only network card)?
[04:04] <problema-rede> Where is the config file that put eth1 name on network card?
[04:05] <Lynoure> problema-rede: you mean /etc/network/interfaces ? (I'm unsure what you mean by 'name' there)
[04:08] <problema-rede> have the eth0 and eth1 too, same ip
[04:09] <problema-rede> i will delete the eth1
[04:10] <problema-rede> how i restart network on kubuntu?
[04:11] <atidem> problema-rede: $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure etherconf
[04:12] <atidem> problema-rede: if the package is not available, install it
[04:12] <mazon1> hi canu teel me what is RSDP
[04:13] <problema-rede> ok, but it only detects the eth1 netcard
[04:14] <problema-rede> when i type ifconfig, show only eth1 e lo
[04:14] <problema-rede> but, why eth1? Why not eth0?
[04:18] <Schuenemann> where can I get the kernel source?
[04:19] <kubuntuInstall> back ...
[04:19] <kubuntuInstall> question : why one of my disk isn't recognized under QTPArted ?
[04:20] <Dr_willis> does the bios even show the drive? would be the first check.
[04:24] <vegasmcpc_> ok, there's two different drivers for my graphics card, do i use the xfree86 ones or the x.org ones?
[04:25] <kubuntuInstall> xorg I think
[04:25] <kubuntuInstall> You install what drivers
[04:25] <kubuntuInstall> ubuntu/kubuntu is in xorg from a quite long time
[04:25] <vegasmcpc_> graphics card
[04:25] <kubuntuInstall> you're looking on ati site ?
[04:25] <vegasmcpc_> yea
[04:25] <kubuntuInstall> crappy card :D
[04:25] <vegasmcpc_> not really, just not well supported in linux
[04:25] <kubuntuInstall> I advise you to get fglrx drivers from the repo
[04:25] <vegasmcpc_> what do you run?
[04:26] <kubuntuInstall> ati too
[04:26] <kubuntuInstall> that's why I say it's crappy
[04:26] <vegasmcpc_> how do i run a .rpm file?
[04:27] <Schuenemann> you can convert it do .deb, but they say it's not safe
[04:27] <kubuntuInstall> owh !
[04:27] <kubuntuInstall> vegasmcpc don't even try :D
[04:27] <kubuntuInstall> rpm is for rpm based distribution
[04:27] <kubuntuInstall> ubuntu is deb based
[04:27] <fannagoganna> hi, wondering if anyone has seen the problem of kcmshell modules not appearing?
[04:28] <fannagoganna> it is really really annoying
[04:28] <Schuenemann> kubuntuInstall,  well, I only tried that once... and it worked
[04:28] <kubuntuInstall> Yes . It works ... But it's a pain in the neck to get rid of then
[04:28] <BluesKaj> one can use alien to convert rpms to deb pkgs
[04:28] <kubuntuInstall> the install goes quite well... The uninstall is crappy as hell
[04:29] <BluesKaj> however the dependencies can lead to broken pkgs
[04:31] <flippy> can someone guide me thru iso download and cd burn
[04:31] <kubuntuInstall> vegasmcpc: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/fglrx
[04:31] <flippy> ?
[04:31] <kubuntuInstall> sorry, it is in french, but it is the most elegant solution i've found so far
[04:31] <kubuntuInstall> no need for easyUbuntu, for compilation etc
[04:32] <kubuntuInstall> vegasmcpc_: just follow the instructions in green
[04:33] <kubuntuInstall> If you need help, i'm here ... As long as this buggy kubuntu install won't go
[04:33] <Schuenemann> kubuntuInstall, the uninstall was ok too :)
[04:34] <BluesKaj> flippy, if you can't do a download and burn , this not the place to ask for help, and maybe windows would be easier for you
[04:35] <kubuntuInstall> Schuenemann: it depends A LOT of the rpm packaging
[04:35] <boss_78> Do you known the French Community's channel?
[04:35] <stdin> !fr
[04:35] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:35] <boss_78> Thanks
[04:35] <Schuenemann> kubuntuInstall, well, I just tried once
[04:35] <jhutchins> !burn | flippy
[04:35] <ubotu> flippy: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[04:36] <kubuntuInstall> and as there are so lots rpm not compatible with themselves that a hell to know which one will go with alien
[04:36] <tanya> how do I install a gtk2 theme on kubuntu?
[04:36] <kubuntuInstall> tanya: aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[04:36] <kubuntuInstall> just kidding :D
[04:37] <Dr_willis> i alwyas install the full gnome desktop anyway :)
[04:37] <kubuntuInstall> You can install a package to do your gtk2 theme looks like KDE one
[04:37] <tanya> kubuntuInstall: do you know what the package is called?
[04:38] <kubuntuInstall> i'm looking for it
[04:38] <tanya> thanks
[04:38] <stdin> !info gtk-qt-engine
[04:38] <ubotu> Package gtk-qt-engine does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[04:38] <stdin> !info gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[04:38] <ubotu> gtk2-engines-gtk-qt: theme engine using Qt for GTK+ 2.x. In component main, is optional. Version 0.70-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 80 kB, installed size 364 kB
[04:38] <stdin> there it is tanya ^^
[04:38] <kubuntuInstall> tanya: it is by default
[04:39] <kubuntuInstall> tanya: on the kubuntu 6.10 live cd, it is installed
[04:39] <stdin> you still need to enable it in System Settings or KControl
[04:39] <kubuntuInstall> yes
[04:39] <kubuntuInstall> But on the liveCD, it is enabled by default too
[04:39] <kubuntuInstall> but not the fonts
[04:40] <kubuntuInstall> (the kubuntu install is really buggy... That's annoying)
[04:41] <kubuntuInstall> someone know how to make the media:/ url work in konqueror ?
[04:41] <stdin> use /media
[04:41] <Dr_willis> type in mediaL/
[04:41] <kubuntuInstall> I think a service isn't working
[04:41] <Dr_willis> type in media:/
[04:41] <kubuntuInstall> thanks DrWillis lol
[04:41] <Dr_willis> is what i do. :)  but there can be issues with using some programs and media:/ thats why it normally defaults to /media/
[04:41] <Dr_willis> or so i hear.
[04:41] <stdin> both media:/ and /media work (tho slightly differently)
[04:42] <Dr_willis> i just 'discovered'    ls -l /dev/disk/by-label/    the other day. :)
[04:42] <Dr_willis> and by-uuid
[04:42] <slyfox> This is so annoying is there a fix to make Kwallet work? I am getting pissed of becasue I have to enter passwords for Kmail and Kopete every time I start them ?
[04:43] <Dr_willis> someone was asking how to get the uuid's easially.. theres how.
[04:43] <kubuntuInstall> stdin: /media is only a acces to the filesystem , no ?
[04:43] <stdin> kubuntuInstall: no, it shows non-mounted devices too, like media:/
[04:44] <kubuntuInstall> Dr_willis: the problem with media:/ is that when I click on a device, it popup an error
[04:44] <kubuntuInstall> that's why i think some service/daemon is missing
[04:44] <kubuntuInstall> and when i got under kubuntu after installing kubuntu-desktop, the media:/ url didn't even open !
[04:44] <jhutchins> /media is a mount point in the filesystem, like /usr or /mnt
[04:45] <stdin> jhutchins: not in konqueror
[04:45] <jhutchins> stdin: Yes.
[04:45] <jhutchins> media:/ is not.
[04:45] <kubuntuInstall> stdin: for me it isn't the same at all !
[04:46] <slyfox> jhutchins: how do you overcome Kwallet frustration ?
[04:46] <stdin>  I have unmounted devices in /media, and they don't show in 'ls /media'
[04:46] <jhutchins> slyfox: I grumble and don't use that box much.
[04:46] <jhutchins> slyfox: Not enough to fix it anyway.
[04:46] <slyfox> jhutchins: is that Kwaller-KDE problem or Kubuntu ?
[04:46] <jhutchins> slyfox: I run Mandriva most of the time, it allows me to disable kwallet and get on with life.
[04:47] <slyfox> jhutchins: but how do you make aplicaitons rememmebr passwords - kmail and kopete ?
[04:47] <jhutchins> Then again, Mandriva is still on 3.5.4, which may be part of it.
[04:47] <jhutchins> slyfox: They do just fine.  I check the "rember/save password" box, and they warn me, then do it.
[04:48] <flippy> can any1 guide me thru an iso unzip, mds5sum, and cd burn?
[04:48] <slyfox> jhutchins: so if I can disable Kwallet, then applciaitons will remmebr passwords instead of Kwallet ?
[04:48] <jhutchins> flippy: Did you read the web page the bot sent you earlier?
[04:48] <jhutchins> slyfox: They're supposed to, but in kubuntu I've had problems.  They rember the password, but they STILL want to bring up kwallet.
[04:49] <jhutchins> slyfox: I don't think I've had the dialog box to set up kwallet come up in kubuntu, come to think of it, you might be able to go into kwallet settings and disable it.
[04:49] <jhutchins> flippy: ?
[04:51] <Dr_willis> unzip? you found a ziped iso?
[04:51] <kubuntuInstall> Yes Dr_willis, winrar open them, it is only a zip file
[04:52] <kubuntuInstall> just kidding \o/
[04:52] <kubuntuInstall> reboot ing
[04:52] <Dr_willis> The trout wasent fresh.
[04:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:54] <jhutchins> I think it's wierd how reluctant people are to just try something without someone telling them what to do.
[04:57] <BluesKaj> afraid to break something , jhutchins :)
[04:57] <marcus> lu al*
[04:58] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: I run into the same problem teaching horseback riding though.
[04:58] <marcus> c quoi le canal francais
[04:58] <Schuenemann> !fr
[04:58] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:58] <marcus> merci
[04:58] <ag3r> hi
[04:58] <Schuenemann> mercy? :-O
[04:58] <ag3r> my kubuntu bar has dissapear
[04:58] <marcus> !fr
[04:58] <ag3r> or is grey
[04:58] <BluesKaj> yeah i used to be a ski instructor , no pain no gain ...gotta learn from yer mistakes
[04:59] <marcus> list
[04:59] <ag3r> how can i put back?
[05:00] <jhutchins> ag3r: Have you restarted kubuntu?
[05:00] <Schuenemann> marcus, /join #kubuntu-fr
[05:00] <ag3r> i hava to restart?
[05:00] <jhutchins> ag3r: Or just logged out and back in?
[05:00] <ag3r> i cant log out
[05:00] <ag3r> theres no icons in the bar
[05:00] <jhutchins> ag3r: No, there's a way to restart it using dcop, but I don't remember it.
[05:00] <jhutchins> Do you have a little bar with a triangle at the edge of the screen?
[05:01] <ag3r> no
[05:01] <ag3r> the bar is completely grey
[05:01] <BluesKaj> ag3r, right clikck in the desktop , configure desktop ,behavior
[05:01] <jhutchins> ag3r: It's gray, but the rest of your desktop isn't?
[05:01] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: I think he needs to restart kicker maybe.
[05:01] <ag3r> yep
[05:01] <ag3r> beryl is fuckin me
[05:01] <ag3r> xD
[05:02] <marcus> lol
[05:02] <jhutchins> ag3r: Oh.  Beryl.  Nevermind.   Kubuntu didn't install well again ... Twice ...
[05:15] <ubuntu> I'll instal ubuntu classic then, :/
[05:16] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, don't use bad language pls !
[05:16] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Did you try the alternate install CD?
[05:16] <BluesKaj> !language
[05:16] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:16] <jhutchins> ubuntu: I hear it can be helpful.
[05:17] <smoze> there's no ati in this machine
[05:17] <ubuntu> jhutchins: oh ? What is it ?
[05:17] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Check the kubuntu site about it.  I just know it deals with some more difficult hardware and has more options.
[05:17] <pmjdebruijn> if I try to remove OpenOffice.org from my system adept says that would break things
[05:17] <pmjdebruijn> how can I get around that
[05:17] <jhutchins> pmjdebruijn: What does it say it will break?
[05:17] <pmjdebruijn> is it a bug in adapet?
[05:18] <BluesKaj> smoze, click on the mixer and tell me what is written on the bottom beside the slider
[05:18] <ubuntu> I don't have odd hardware ... Ubuntu install perfectly on my box
[05:18] <smoze> BluesKaj: HDA Intel
[05:18] <BluesKaj> pmjdebruijn, it will remove dependencies required by other programs
[05:18] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:19] <pmjdebruijn> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[05:19] <pmjdebruijn> BluesKaj, afaik no programs have dependancies on OOo
[05:19] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Well, you could always install ubuntu, then install kubuntu-desktop on it, see if that works.
[05:19] <pmjdebruijn> jhutchins, that worked fine here
[05:19] <jhutchins> pmjdebruijn: Were you using the GUI to remove it?
[05:19] <pmjdebruijn> jhutchins, yeah, why?
[05:20] <BluesKaj> smoze, ok have you checked sys/settings, sound/autodetect ?
[05:20] <ubuntu> jhutchins: that's what I got before, but the media:/ url didn't work
[05:21] <stuart> can someone offer advice on bittornado
[05:21] <smoze> i'll check them again...
[05:21] <leiar> is it possible to apt-get scribus 1,3?
[05:21] <pmjdebruijn> leiar, scribus-ng
[05:21] <BluesKaj> stuart, use Ktorrent
[05:22] <leiar> thanks
[05:22] <stuart> BluesKaj, I just installed bittornado and it's gone mental
[05:22] <stuart> launched it and no gui came up, but firestarter is logging "events"
[05:22] <stuart> i cant finf the process in ksysguard
[05:22] <BluesKaj> ktorrent is designed for kde m bittornado isn't...
[05:22] <stuart> find
[05:23] <smoze> you know, mediaplayers work fine on this system.. other software cant make a sound
[05:23] <stuart> how to stop it?
[05:23] <BluesKaj> launched what, stuart ?
[05:24] <leiar> pmjde: what repository
[05:24] <stuart> after installation "Bittornado client" appears in KDE menu
[05:24] <BluesKaj> smoze you prolly need to install codecs
[05:24] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[05:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:25] <stuart> thats what i started BluesKaj
[05:25] <jhutchins> smoze: Some software defaults to arts, you have to tell it to use alsa.
[05:25] <BluesKaj> stuart, which version of kubuntu ?
[05:26] <stuart> BluesKaj, can't recall if it's lts or edgy
[05:26] <smoze> jhutchins: it is trying to use alsa
[05:26] <BluesKaj> bittornado default on ubuntu ?
[05:26] <jhutchins> ubuntu: If your only problem is media:/ not working...
[05:27] <smoze> ALSA error: pcm_hw.c:1246 snd_pcm_hw_open: open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed (Device or resource busy)
[05:27] <jhutchins> ubuntu: What version of kubuntu are you installing?  With what version of KDE?
[05:27] <ubuntu> jhutchins: That's quite important for me
[05:27] <ubuntu> last release
[05:27] <ubuntu> edgy
[05:27] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Which KDE?  It's just a shortcut, you can learn to live without it very quickly.  Most people don't even use it.
[05:28] <kubuntuInstall> mdr
[05:28] <BluesKaj> kubuntuInstall, change yer nick it's tooo confusing
[05:28] <kubuntuInstall> BluesKaj: is it better ?
[05:29] <leiar> pmjde: which repository do i use to apt-get scribus-ng
[05:29] <Dr_willis> !find scribus-ng
[05:29] <ubotu> Found: scribus-ng
[05:29] <kubuntuInstall> jhutchins: I was used to it when I used it
[05:29] <Dr_willis> !info scribus-ng
[05:29] <ubotu> scribus-ng: Open Source Desktop Page Layout - developmental branch. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-1 (edgy), package size 6944 kB, installed size 20952 kB
[05:30] <stuart> BluesKaj, maybe i should just logout and login and see if it restarts... ?
[05:30] <kubuntuInstall> jhutchins: And I don't know why it didn't work again. I'm not satisfied with a soft which don't give me all its power
[05:31] <kubuntuInstall> jhutchins: I know, it is not a killer feature, but since I know it worked, i'm annoyed it was not working anymore
[05:31] <smoze> ok, problem solved
[05:31] <jhutchins> kubuntuInstall: You might ask in #kde, they might know what process controls that.
[05:32] <jhutchins> kubuntuInstall: Don't storm in saying bad things about the software though.  You won't get any help that way.
[05:32] <jhutchins> smoze: what was it?
[05:32] <jhutchins> kubuntuInstall: Also, when somebody asks you something like "which version of KDE do you have", you'll get much better help if you answer.
[05:33] <kubuntuInstall> jhutchins: And since I installed all my kubuntu desktop when I was under ubuntu. I thought it was just because of some problem with the apt. So i decided to install the whole kubuntu from the cd, and then I got disappointed :D
[05:33] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all, i'm on kubuntu edgy with 3.5.6 kde, and i can't install libkonq4-dev because i think that is broken.
[05:33] <kubuntuInstall> at the moment, I'm under the liveCD
[05:33] <MetaMorfoziS> please help me
[05:34] <smoze> there seems to be a bug in amarok. it kept reserving alsa until turned off.
[05:34] <jhutchins> kubuntuInstall: Does media:/ work on the live CD?
[05:34] <kubuntuInstall> jhutchins: no
[05:34] <leiar> I've got a dapper installation. May I apt-get from an edgy addresse, like swap dapper with edgy in the sources.list?
[05:34] <jhutchins> smoze: Ah.  Amorok is updated frequently, you should maybe ask about it in #amarok and report the bug.
[05:35] <stimey> can anyone help me change my keyboard to kanji characters
[05:35] <kubuntuInstall> jhutchins: KDE 3.5.5
[05:35] <jhutchins> Hm, I thought the CD was 3.5.4 or earlier.
[05:35] <kubuntuInstall> leiar: I think you can, but you must use a dist-upgrade
[05:35] <BluesKaj> leiar, recommend you install edgy , not all repos pkgs will work in dapper
[05:35] <smoze> xmms does not have this bug
[05:36] <kubuntuInstall> otherwise depencies will be broken and you will have an unstable/broken system
[05:36] <jhutchins> leiar: The majority of stability problems in edgy are systems that were dist-upgraded, but yes, you can do it.
[05:36] <stimey>
[05:36] <jhutchins> leiar: Back up your data, be prepared to do a clean install if it breaks.
[05:36] <leiar> BluesKaj. Is that easy, or do i have o start all over again? My case is to install scribus 1.3
[05:37] <BluesKaj> sorry leiar , dunno about scribus :( ... jhutchins ?
[05:37] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: NFI.
[05:37] <rektaali> hey
[05:37] <kubuntuInstall> leiar: I just get from ubuntu dapper to ubuntu edgy without a problem
[05:38] <kubuntuInstall> leiar: I didn't updated my dapper from 3 month when I updated to edgy
[05:38] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Some sort of big "Desktop Publishing" package.
[05:39] <leiar> seems I got scribus 1.3 when I uncommented universe and multiverse in dapper :-)
[05:39] <BluesKaj> leiar, I upgraded to edgy online with some help so...
[05:39] <BluesKaj> !upgrade
[05:39] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:40] <jhutchins> leiar: What do you use scribus for?
[05:41] <leiar> I'm a teacher. i'm planning to make o course where I teach aother teachers to use scribus in publishing school-newspaper. Using Scribus instead of Microsoft Publihser
[05:42] <leiar> If we learn scribus all schools are able to get this programme without paying (it's free for windows as well)
[05:42] <jhutchins> leiar: Cool.  Newspaper then.
[05:42] <BluesKaj> leiar, I know this is an obvious question, but have you checked adept and synaptic ?
[05:42] <jhutchins> leiar: So you _have_ 1.3, you're just wondering about upgrading to Edgy?
[05:43] <leiar> BluesKaj: In synaptic I only found scribus 1.2, but that was maybe because I hadn't uncomented universe and multiverse in sources.list?
[05:43] <leiar> When I uncommented universe and mulitverse, I got 1.3 (scribus-ng)
[05:44] <jhutchins> leiar: So...  You've solved your problem then?
[05:45] <rolle> effe probere
[05:45] <rolle> wow
[05:45] <leiar> yes. Haven't use synaptic much. It's based on the sources.list, isn't it?
[05:45] <BluesKaj> yup
[05:46] <BluesKaj> as is adept
[05:46] <rolle> is hier volk van Leuven?
[05:46] <BluesKaj> !de
[05:46] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:47] <leiar> ok
[05:47] <BluesKaj> heh my repos have only the 1.24 vers , leiar and I'm in edgy
[05:48] <BluesKaj> 1.3 must be the latest release but it hasn't made it to the to my edgy repos yet
[05:49] <leiar> How do you adress replies to a nick. I see red colour when you write to me..
[05:50] <kubuntuInstall> just type the exact name :D
[05:50] <kubuntuInstall> in konversation, type the beginning of the name and then push TAB button
[05:50] <leiar> If you want 1.3 you must uncomment universe or multiverse or both, I uncommented both before apt-get update
[05:50] <kubuntuInstall> you'll get the list of name begining with that
[05:50] <BluesKaj> ok , leiar
[05:50] <underdog5004> what is the wireless manager for plain ubuntu?
[05:50] <leiar> kubuntuInstall: of course, the debian way...