[00:09] <nickell> can somebody guide me on how to make a file that once i click it, it executes a few terminal commands?
[00:10] <nickell> i just want it to execute wakeonlan [mac] once i click it
[00:13] <ca-on-adam> nickell: Are you comfortable using the Terminal?
[00:13] <nickell> ca-on-adam: kind of
[00:14] <nickell> i'v been reading up on it a lot and they all tell me to create a text file and on the top put #!/bin/bash, then i can enter my commands below it
[00:14] <nickell> but when i click it, it just shows up in VIM
[00:14] <ca-on-adam> Ok, where is the file?
[00:14] <nickell> it's on my desktop
[00:15] <ca-on-adam> nickell: from the terminal, you can go to desktop with "cd Desktop"
[00:15] <ca-on-adam> Then type "chmod +x filename
[00:15] <nickell> ca-on-adam: that's exactly what i did
[00:15] <nickell> and then i also applied 777 permissions
[00:15] <nickell> but i don't think i'm creating the right type of file?
[00:15] <ca-on-adam> That should work?
[00:16] <ca-on-adam> nickell: for security, better to use 755 permissions.
[00:16] <nickell> oh ok
[00:16] <nickell> even for something like this?
[00:16] <nickell> http://i.imgur.com/ssDyxBu.png
[00:16] <nickell> so when i open the highlighted file (wol.sh), it opens up a terminal as shown
[00:16] <nickell> but nothing is executed?
[00:17] <nickell> then i tried creating a .desktop file which was supposed to execute it, but i'm not sure if that was correct
[00:17] <ca-on-adam> I'm not one of the pro's on here, so I have another idea but it might not be the way the pros would do it.
[00:17] <blackflow> actually for security use 764, only u+x, not just +x
[00:18] <ca-on-adam> Thank you blackflow.
[00:18] <blackflow> 744 rather.
[00:20] <ca-on-adam> nickell: so there is a .desktop file format that I have used in the past.  I made it appear by creating a desktop shortcut for Firefox.
[00:21] <nickell> did it execute the commands?
[00:21] <ca-on-adam> I changed the line "Exec=exo-open --launch WebBrowser %u" to say "Exec=/home/user/Desktop/myfile"
[00:21] <nickell> i literally have one command i want it to run when i click it lol
[00:21] <ca-on-adam> And it did execute the command.
[00:22] <nickell> how did you create a firefox shortcut ca-on-adam ?
[00:23] <ca-on-adam> nickell: I went to the menu, right clicked on the Firefox icon, and chose "add to desktop" or something similar.
[00:23] <nickell> ca-on-adam: yea that's how i usually do it to but i don't have that option
[00:23] <ca-on-adam> hmm
[00:24] <nickell> http://i.imgur.com/yBzAGYG.png
[00:24] <ericus> highlight me
[00:26] <ca-on-adam> nickell: maybe that option will show up if you go into 'full' mode - I think by putting your mouse in the top left corner and then clicking something.
[00:26] <ca-on-adam> I use Xubuntu so I don't have that desktop at my disposal at the moment.
[00:27] <Bashing-om> ericus: ??
[00:27] <ericus> Bashing-om, thanks, testing something
[00:29] <Bashing-om> ericus: :) . there is #test channel for that purpose .
[00:29] <ericus> sorry
[00:30] <ca-on-adam> nickell:  any luck?
[00:31] <nickell> ca-on-adam: about to try it
[00:31] <nickell> http://i.imgur.com/XjHTmgD.png
[00:31] <nickell> that's what i made
[00:31] <nickell> the command links to the wol.sh file
[00:31] <nickell> so let's see :)
[00:32] <ca-on-adam> If that doesn't work, I can share a desktop icon that I just made.
[00:32] <nickell> awesome!
[00:32] <nickell> i'm about to log out because i'm going to test it
[00:32] <nickell> i'll brb
[00:38] <ca-on-adam> wb nickell
[00:38] <nickell> thanks ca-on-adam!
[00:38] <nickell> it worked!
[00:38] <ca-on-adam> excellent!
[00:39] <nickell> thanks for all of your help ^_^
[00:39] <nickell> http://i.imgur.com/X7zGeNQ.png
[00:39] <nickell> that's what it created it
[00:39] <nickell> and as soon as i click it, it turns my computer on
[00:40] <Bashing-om> !cookie | ca-on-adam
[00:40] <nickell> lol
[00:40] <ca-on-adam> Yay!  I love cookies!
[00:40] <nickell> i have a different question, what if i needed sudo in my script?
[00:40] <nickell> for some other command say
[00:41] <nickell> so the top line reads "#!/bin/bash"
[00:41] <ca-on-adam> Oh, because then it would need a password and you probably want it to be automatic...
[00:41] <nickell> then my next line sudo something something
[00:41] <nickell> it'll require a password
[00:41] <DJRWolf> looking at getting an external USB 3.0 RAID enclosure, it can handle four drive of up to 8 TB, so in RAID 0 that will be a 32 TB drive, can my Ubuntu installs handle a drive that big?
[00:41] <nickell> do i put the password on the next line?
[00:41] <nickell> oh i see
[00:41] <ca-on-adam> nickell, no it will still ask for a password.
[00:42] <nickell> so how can i automate the password?
[00:42] <ca-on-adam> Well I know a way, but there are security implications, so I can tell you but you best verify it with somebody more advanced than me.
[00:44] <ca-on-adam> The way I know is to make the script 'setuid root' which makes it gain root priviledges when it starts running.
[00:47] <ca-on-adam> DJRWolf: ext4 will support a filesystem that big, according to https://kernelnewbies.org/Ext4/
[00:48] <Shawn|i7-720QM> is landscape free to use?
[00:49] <DJRWolf> cd-on-adam ok, thank you
[00:51] <Shawn|i7-720QM> ahh free on premises
[00:51] <Shawn|i7-720QM> for up to 10 machines
[00:51] <Shawn|i7-720QM> does it have to be installed on the server?
[00:55] <DaniG2k> hello all. I want to VNC from my local Mac to an Amazon EC2 Ubuntu image. The EC2 instance is behind a VPC. I understand I need to open inbound traffic on port 3389 for this to work. Does anyone know if I'd need to open that port both on the VPC as well as on the EC2 instance? or just from the VPC?
[00:56] <jellycode> hey there guys, having a wierd issue.  This package installs just fine on Trusty, but not on Zesty.  Zesty says no candidate when we do install, but it's there when we do apt-cache showpkg... is there a common cause for this?
[00:56] <jellycode> Here's all the relevant output:  https://codeshare.io/G71gQL
[00:59] <jellycode> Ok, so it works in Zesty if we do:  sudo apt-get install libpcap0.8-dev:i386   why do we have to include the version number i wonder.  Is it a bug in the way it was published to zesty?
[00:59] <Shawn|i7-720QM> Ubuntu landscape requires money??
[00:59] <Shawn|i7-720QM> for the free up to 10 machines usage?
[01:05] <oerheks_> *free* for up to 10 physical machines and 10 more virtual machines for a total of 20
[01:06] <Shawn|i7-720QM> can I skip the landscape client key registration in the ubuntu server installation for the free on premesis function?
[01:06] <Shawn|i7-720QM> *on premises
[01:10] <oerheks_> i just wonder why you would do that, dunno if that is even possible
[01:10] <oerheks_> pretty nice recent article https://askubuntu.com/questions/549809/how-do-i-install-landscape-for-personal-use
[01:11] <Shawn|i7-720QM> well, I gotta use the server somehow, without going to the other room to type on that server
[01:13] <Shawn|C2Duo> heres my laptop
[01:21] <Oderus> been at it for weeks trying to change the tray icons for apport, anyone know how or have any ideas? thanks.
[01:23] <Oderus> link to forum post; https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?t=71995
[01:26] <r3muxd> Hello! I'm on Kubuntu 17.04, and a Radeon R9 390X and was wondering how I would install the mesa+radeonsi drivers?
[01:26] <r3muxd> I currently have to use radeon.dpm=0, which kills performance.
[01:27] <r3muxd> Also, in checking that my sound was broken, KDE is not responding.
[01:27] <r3muxd> At all.
[01:28] <r3muxd> Nevermind, just lag, also, sound works.
[01:28] <Shawn|C2Duo> will an old netburst server get help from using hwe kernel?
[01:35] <r3muxd> hello?
[01:35] <wadadli> r3muxd: roger
[01:35] <r3muxd> just checking
[01:36] <r3muxd> is there any way to install the mesa+radeonsi drivers on kubuntu 17.04? i currently have to use radeon.dpm=0.
[01:36] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I guess not :/
[01:40] <rolandbeowulf> Recently, every time i try to install a package from au.archive.ubuntu.com, it spends something like 5 minutes at 0% before suddenly shooting to 100%, as if it takes a long time to start first, has anyone else been experiencing this?
[01:41] <Shawn|C2Duo> wow that booted fast
[01:43] <rolandbeowulf> just remotely apt-get installed something on a computer in another network, and it installed instantly. seems to just be my router lol
[01:44] <Shawn|C2Duo> well I mean my server, with ultra320 10k drives
[01:44] <Shawn|C2Duo> I saw it role through those green confirmations so fast
[01:54] <zzero1>   q
[02:00] <sary> rolandbeowulf: is IPv6 enabled!
[02:37] <jomido> Anyone know if theres a package that will allow customization of dwm (dynamic window manager) or do I need to build it from source?  In fedora they have a dwm-user package that lets you build your own config.h in your home directory and it's recompiled when it's launched.
[02:52] <pankaj> I didn't understand what is the use of IP address <IP_ADDRESS> and how it is related to loopback IP address?
[02:53] <Abnormality> This seems relevant pankaj https://serverfault.com/questions/78048/whats-the-difference-between-ip-address-0-0-0-0-and-127-0-0-1
[02:53] <hggdh> pankaj: usually <IP_ADDRESS> is used for all local interfaces. lo is a local interface
[02:54] <pankaj> hggdh: But what does it refer to
[02:55] <leftyfb> pankaj: in what context?
[02:57] <hggdh> pankaj: if you open a server -- say, SSH -- listening on <IP_ADDRESS>:22 this means it will accept connections from any of the local network interfaces (on IPv4)
[02:57] <pankaj> hddgh: That makes some sense
[02:57] <pankaj> hggdh: : That makes some sense
[02:58] <hggdh> pankaj: the same for :::22
[02:58] <pankaj> hggdh: What :::22?
[02:58] <hggdh> pankaj: same thing as <IP_ADDRESS>:22, for IPv6
[02:58] <oerheks_> with ipv6 you use :::22
[02:59] <pankaj> hggdh: OK
[03:42] <Lope> to disable sounds for KDE applications. normally I do that with the systemsettings package. systemsettings is installed, yet I have no systemsettings binary?
[03:42] <Lope> Ubuntu 16.04
[03:44] <Lope> okay, nvm the binary is systemsettings5.
[03:45] <Lope> okay, it's ont systemsettings5. That's something else. I did apt-get remove --purge and reinstalled the pkg, but it didn't help.
[03:55] <Lope> My systemsettings5 automatically had the configure > General on icon view. When I changed it to tree view suddenly all the additional options appeared.
[04:04] <Lope> It's still lacking the options I've used on ubuntu 14.04
[04:06] <sopparus> hello
[04:06] <sopparus> how come non of those works
[04:06] <sopparus> #sopp ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /etc/symfony.sh
[04:06] <sopparus> sopp ALL = (root) NOPASSWD: /etc/symfony.sh
[04:07] <sopparus> in /etc/sudoers
[04:07] <sopparus> tried both
[04:07] <sopparus> then su /etc/symfony.as user sopp
[04:07] <sopparus> still wants pass...
[04:09] <sopparus> got it. last line was overriding
[04:23] <Shawn|i7-720QM> https://hastebin.com/imoxupecaf o.o
[04:27] <CoderEurope> So I am having trouble upgrading from 16.10 to Ubuntu 17.04 - How do I clean up my dependencies, as I think thats the issue ?
[04:30] <Flannel> CoderEurope: You're going to have to provide some errors or package outputs or something.  Your question at this point is just way vague.
[05:53] <pankaj> What is the need of MAC address. If the lowest level LAN want to send or recieve packet then why cannot it just uses IP address as it is unique to network and it can also do the transfer and reception of packet? Why to require MAC?
[06:02] <Abnormality> MAC addresses are used before your machine even has an IP, for ARP
[06:03] <Abnormality> ^pankaj
[06:03] <Seveas> and for all other non-ip traffic :)
[06:04] <Abnormality> plus IP addresses change constantly. If you open up wireshark and look at ARP traffic, your router will frequnelty ask "who has such and such IP?" and the machine with that IP, distinguished by its MAC will respond, "me me me!"
[06:05] <Seveas> pankaj: mac addresses are used to identify physical hardware and are only visible to the thing at the other end of the wire. IP addressing is logical, routable addressing.
[06:07] <sudormrf> hello there! I am trying to add an authorized SSH key and for some reason I keep getting an error. trying to figure out why it is happening. the error is "load key /home/someuser/.ssh/authorized_keys: invalid format"
[06:07] <sudormrf> anyone around that can help?
[06:08] <Seveas> sudormrf: that smells like you're trying to use the authorized_keys file as a private key. That doesn't work :)
[06:08] <Seveas> sudormrf: what's the actual command you are using?
[06:08] <sudormrf> Seveas: ssh someuser@remotehost
[06:09] <sudormrf> tried adding -i
[06:09] <sudormrf> I am 100% certain this is user error :D
[06:09] <Seveas> just 'ssh user@host' gives that error? Then there's an error in your .ssh/config file
[06:10] <sudormrf> Seveas: the SSH config allows for key auth
[06:10] <untoreh> hello, why apt-add-repository gotta be dumb?
[06:10] <sudormrf> if I am following
[06:11] <Seveas> sudormrf: can you pastebin the config please
[06:11] <stephanlap> Hello. Is there a way to check an (K)ubuntu system for integrity? I mean, not the HD itself, but if all system-files are okay? I am asking because, after a power-outage, my Desk-Kubuntu crashes horribly/freezes from time to time and fsck didn't show any problems.
[06:12] <untoreh> stephanlap: apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop ?
[06:12] <sudormrf> Seveas: paste.ubuntu.com/25080302
[06:13] <Seveas> that's your sshd config. I mean ~/.ssh/config on the client side
[06:13] <EriC^^> !debsums | stephanlap
[06:13] <stephanlap> untoreh: I didn't think of reinsstalling the desktop but that's certainly a possibility I could try. Thanks.
[06:13] <EriC^^> !info debsums | stephanlap
[06:13] <sudormrf> Seveas: I don't have that file on the client side
[06:14] <pankaj> Seveas: I was just reading about it in the mean time and also googling some articles. At last I got the perfect answer and I really do not have any doubt about its how, why and when. Thanks for your answer also.
[06:14] <Seveas> sudormrf: then you're not just doing 'ssh user@host'. What is the complete, exact, command you are using?
[06:14] <stephanlap> EriC^^: I don't know about debsums, but I'll give it a try. Thanks.
[06:14] <EriC^^> np
[06:14] <Seveas> EriC^^: ooh, TIL. Thanks!
[06:14] <sudormrf> Seveas: ssh user@IPADDRESSOFHOST -vvvv <- that's it. literall.
[06:15] <EriC^^> Seveas: :)
[06:15] <sudormrf> Seveas: again, I am certain this is user error
[06:16] <Seveas> sudormrf: what's the content of ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the server? If it's not just lines that start with 'ssh-rsa', 'ssh-dss', or 'ssh-ecdsa' followed by base64 encoded things, then it's wrong.
[06:17] <sudormrf> Seveas: only one line, it starts with ssh-rsa
[06:17] <jayjo> I'm trying to install python 3.6 and there is no apt-get repo for it - anyone know what the correct name is?
[06:17] <Seveas> sudormrf: ok, that's safe to pastebin. Pastebin it please :)
[06:18] <Seveas> jayjo: there is none. Upgrading python means upgrading ubuntu.
[06:18] <stephanlap> EriC^^: I just tried to run debsums and there's a curious thing. It checked a lot of files, the last entry being "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libanl.a", and the next line was just "Killed". So I assume, something went wrong...
[06:19] <Seveas> stephanlap: that looks very wrong. Check dmesg output and do a memtest
[06:21] <sudormrf> Seveas: so I think I get what the problem is. the authorized_keys file has the public key of the remote host that is to be connecting in, correct?
[06:22] <stephanlap> Seveas: There's an entry about debsums in dmesg, looking like this: "[ 2138.783730] CPU: 0 11816 Comm: debsums Tainted P    D   OE 4.10.0-generic #30-Ubuntu"
[06:23] <stephanlap> And the system just crashed again...
[06:23] <stephanlap> Froze
[06:24] <stephanlap> I'll do a Memory-Test
[06:26] <stephanlap> Seveas: Seems as if I have a problem with my RAM-Sticks. It only shows 5.811 MB as my main memory, although I have 8 GB installed, and lots of errors. Could one of the memory-sticks be damaged?
[06:26] <stephanlap> 5376 errors so far.
[06:26] <stephanlap> that would explain the seemingly random crashes.
[06:34] <marco25> in ubuntu 17.04 my pc randomly freezed for like 2 months finally fixed and hundreds of comments from people with same issue...tor series 3 is having problems in zesty seems to work for a lot of other people..tor browswer is crashing again..seems to be working for a lot of other people..and now chromium is not working....should i just go back to ubuntu 16.04 can i take a poll?
[06:36] <DaVinciIT> Good Morning all. Ubuntu Srver Ver. 14.04.5 LTS
[06:36] <DaVinciIT> Can you suggest me a guide to automatic install security upgrade? (I found many many pages on Google)
[06:36] <DaVinciIT> thank you very much.
[06:36] <marco25> i also had a issue with ubuntu going into a login loop as well
[06:37] <marco25> DaVinciIT, here is some advice dont even think about installing ubuntu 17.04 (zesty)..
[07:45] <donalsd> How do I spoof my IP address to a specific IP address that I want? Is there a way in Ubuntu?
[07:51] <Ben64> donalsd: can you explain more
[07:51] <donalsd> Ben64: I have to have it bidirectional, as in use the IP of someone else in another location.
[08:05] <sruli> I have an issue with my ubuntu 16.04 - if i leave the PC for a period of time (10-20) hours, upon my return it seems frozen but if i go to tty1 i see i/o errors, i ran fsck and no problems found on the drive, its an SSD drive. see image of errors here https://pasteboard.co/GAIoEQr.jpg
[08:06] <ikkuranus> I'm trying to setup a crontab to temporarily allow ports through iptables, run the letencrypt unifi script then reload the default iptables rules on ubuntu 17.04 server
[08:07] <ikkuranus> by default I mean the rules I have saved in /etc/iptables/rules.v4
[08:10] <ikkuranus> using the following https://pastebin.com/DDN9nBA9 but when I set them to just after the current time they didn't seem to fire off as expected
[08:19] <squig> oh ok, dns crazy has to stop.
[08:19] <Abnormality> Someone's got a case of the DNS crazies
[08:19] <squig> so I have crazy in my /etc/resolve.conf nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>? where is that coming from
[08:19] <squig> I can dig/nslookup hosts fine but ping says the names dont resolve
[08:20] <squig> argh, what is resolve in nsswitch.conf?
[08:21] <squig> systemd crazy
[08:22] <squig> every thing about systemd seems to be 2 steps forward 3 steps back
[08:23] <Abnormality> I hate systemd units, they seem so much more complicated than simple startup scripts. And binary logs strike me as bizarre
[08:23] <squig> I dont mind the unit files, but where do you put them to override stuff, and when I change a one why do you remind me I have to run a command to reload them, YOU KNOW I CHANGED IT
[08:24] <Abnormality> lol
[08:24] <squig> and its not a command like systemctl reload-unit  service
[08:24] <Abnormality> It just annoys me having to designate a target for a script to run after rather than just before I effing log in, lol.
[08:24] <squig> its some thing else
[08:25] <squig> systemctl serivce status, how many times do I write that
[08:25] <Abnormality> I know for some things it is relevant, but some things could just run after the basic system is up and be fine
[08:25] <squig> I have a shell script to swtich the args, called FK_SYSTEMD
[08:25] <Abnormality> heh
[08:26] <sruli> I have an issue with my ubuntu 16.04 - if i leave the PC for a period of time (10-20) hours, upon my return it seems frozen but if i go to tty1 i see i/o errors, i ran fsck and no problems found on the drive, its an SSD drive. see image of errors here https://pasteboard.co/GAIoEQr.jpg
[08:26] <Abnormality> what would you do if you find the file FSYSTEMD.DAT on an infected server... leave or delete?
[08:26] <squig> today, my network didnt come up so all the names were chaced as non existant. If its not in the cache it makes sense to look in the dns
[08:26] <squig> ARGSHG!
[08:27] <squig> sruli, It looks bad man
[08:27] <Abnormality> Looks like a bad disk maybe
[08:27] <sruli> squig: i need to know if its a hardware issue or not
[08:28] <Abnormality> can you like at the SMART data?
[08:28] <squig> its hard to tell you are runing encryptfs on there too?
[08:28] <pankaj> What happens when ARP packet is unable to find MAC address of destination node (let destination node be in another network). Now, how does it knows that since their is no MAC address matching in same subnet for destination node so lets transfer it to Gateway MAC addres?
[08:28] <sruli> Abnormality: squig: how can i confirm if it is the disk? yes its running ecryptfs
[08:28] <squig> sruli, can you get on the system at all?
[08:28] <Abnormality> well like I said it may be a good idea to look at the SMART data
[08:29] <squig> sruli, smart +1
[08:30] <sruli> Abnormality: squig: smart tests states Disk OK, the system works fine, this only happens if i leave the PC running idle for 10-20 hours, never happened while I was using it... only when i leave it for some time
[08:32] <Abnormality> sruli I don't know what you can do next, maybe find an in depth testing tool you can run?
[08:33] <sruli> such as?
[08:33] <squig> I would remove encryptfs alos
[08:33] <squig> its just adding mode complexity at the moment
[08:33] <Abnormality> I don't have any recommendations, but in your shoes I would google for something like that
[08:33] <squig> the SSD manufacturores often have a tool
[08:34] <sruli> squig: ?? its my root file system.. cant remove, dont want to reinstall, an di need my drive encrypted
[08:34] <pankaj> Is there any tool in ubuntu by help of which I can play and design with Circuits/
[08:34] <squig> sruli, good luck then :D
[08:35] <Abnormality> pankaj, for the networking stuff #networking is a good resource
[08:35] <sruli> squig: lets be clear the problem is not because of ecryptfs!
[08:35] <squig> sruli, how do you know that?
[08:35] <Abnormality> I also know there are some old episodes of a podcast called security now that go into depth about routing protocols in a way accesible to non-experts
[08:36] <sruli> squig: in the past 7-8 years i have setup linux on 100's of machines, never woithout ecryptfs and never had a problem like this
[08:36] <Abnormality> I know that ARP is specifically covered in at least one episodes, you might have luck finding these episodes in google pankaj
[08:36] <Abnormality> for circuit design I don't know
[08:36] <squig> sruli, sounds like your an expert then you don't need our help
[08:37] <pankaj> Abnormality: I was talking about an software tool for beginner to understand and design circuits. May be a good book also if you know.
[08:37] <Abnormality> I don't pankaj, I am a novice at best in circuit design
[08:37] <Abnormality> but share if you find something cool =)
[08:37] <Abnormality> Well actually there is a pretty cool book called CODE that you could read
[08:37] <pankaj> Abnormality: Some simple circuits like combining AND, OR gates. Is there any software for it?
[08:38] <Abnormality> minecraft lol
[08:38] <squig> pankaj, what did you find in the software centre?
[08:39] <pankaj> Abnormality: OK. I will checkout that book. Some months before I found an awesome book 'But how do it know?'
[08:43] <pankaj> squig: I didn't understand
[08:43] <Abnormality> he means look in the ubuntu repoes
[08:43] <Abnormality> by opening the software center and searching for related software
[08:43] <squig> water horse drink
[08:44] <Abnormality> battery horse staple
[08:44] <squig> staple :(
[08:44] <squig> thats mean
[08:44] <squig> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter
[08:45] <Abnormality> I got it wrong because I haven't seen the comic in forever, but: https://www.xkcd.com/936/ squig
[08:59] <squig> oh ffs, chrome has a cache (also broken), ubuntu has a cache, also broke, JUST USE DNS!
[09:02] <Scoop7> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUdyuKaGQd4  <-- I bet she has a lot of problems with permissions...oh boy..
[09:07] <Halleluia> could not backup the following files   /home/blessing/.dbus
[09:08] <Halleluia> Any help?
[09:08] <arun007> Halleluia: what error?
[09:11] <squig> muhuhuha why is my computer slow, oh I have 30 virtual machines mounted on it
[09:12] <Scoop7> squig: have you tried reading the docs ?
[09:12] <squig> Scoop7, I tried turning off and on again
[09:13] <Scoop7> squig: that's a complex situation then
[09:14] <squig> Scoop7, im gonna try turnning some thing else off an on again
[09:14] <Scoop7> squig: last thing you could try is cooling your cpu with liquid nitrogen(in case you're not doing it already)
[09:15] <squig> thats not such a bad idea its pretty hot here
[09:20] <Halleluia> arun007: error in ubuntu backup
[09:27] <CoderEurope> morning everybody
[09:29] <zetheroo> if I wanted a script to be run when a new user is created ... how would I go about that?
[09:34] <croberts> zetheroo: you could add to the script to check the /etc/passwd file for additions and then run the script based on that. then you could put it in a cron job
[09:34] <Scoop7> zetheroo: very simple
[09:34] <Scoop7> zetheroo: create an event
[09:34] <croberts> that way if nothing new was added it just does nothing otherwise if it sees a user then do something, but prob a better way
[09:34] <croberts> ^^
[09:36] <Scoop7> create an event, create a task, and  listen for that event, when event is fired of run that task(task could be responsible for running the script with your desired arguments)
[09:37] <zetheroo> I basically just need wget to download a package and then copy it's contents somewhere
[09:37] <Scoop7> then it's exactly what you need to do
[09:37] <zetheroo> Scoop7: not sure what you mean by 'event' and 'task'
[09:37] <zetheroo> when a new user us created isn't there a script that gets executed?
[09:38] <Scoop7> if you need wget that will be needed to be done in the background
[09:38] <Scoop7> well I would recommend
[09:40] <zetheroo> what does Ubuntu do when a new user is created - aside from copying the contents of /etc/skel to the user's home ... ?
[09:41] <Scoop7> of wait, it's not a web app ? zetheroo ?
[09:41] <zetheroo> ?
[09:42] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[09:42] <zetheroo> the thing I am trying to have setup when a new user is created is a Firefox plugin
[09:48] <Ben64> zetheroo: what's wrong with /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[09:50] <zetheroo> Ben64: I can try that again, but I think last time I tried using that location it didn't work. It's supposed to be a universal firefox plugin location ... no?
[09:50] <Ben64> yep
[09:50] <vbotka> zetheroo, I'm not aware of any Linux native tools to accomplish this. FWIW, you might want to consider external tools for system management (e.g. http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/user_module.html)
[09:50] <zetheroo> Do you know if it also works for TB?
[10:02] <CryptoServer> ¤》operCmd(auth=null,null;,kline•kloeri)
[10:03] <CryptoServer> [Global Notice] This server has been hacked
[10:03] <zetheroo> Ben64: well that didn't work.  :P
[10:11] <{LadyChristina}> our race has many questions
[10:11] <blackflow> {LadyChristina}: correct keymap?
[10:11] <zetheroo> ^
[10:11] <{LadyChristina}> yes, i write it down as i enter it
[10:11] <[PARTY]Varka> {LadyChristina}, turn off/on capslock numlock?
[10:11] <{LadyChristina}> keymap?
[10:11] <{LadyChristina}> what is that?
[10:11] <{LadyChristina}> keyboard map?
[10:11] <blackflow> yes
[10:11] <zetheroo> :)
[10:11] <{LadyChristina}> how do i know what the correct keyboard map is?
[10:12] <zetheroo> {LadyChristina} when you install Ubuntu are you selecting the correct keyboard layout?
[10:12] <{LadyChristina}> i do the part where it says detect keyboard
[10:12] <{LadyChristina}> possibly i am not
[10:12] <zetheroo> hmm ...
[10:12] <blackflow> {LadyChristina}: is your keyboard QWERTZ or QWERTY ?
[10:12] <blackflow> (or something else)
[10:12] <{LadyChristina}> let me go look
[10:12] <zetheroo> there is a field where you can type characters to test if the keyboard you selected is indeed the correct one
[10:12] <zetheroo> That is ... during the install
[10:13] <{LadyChristina}> it's qwerty
[10:13] <{LadyChristina}> i have done that test each time zetheroo, it says my keyboard is "it"
[10:13] <zetheroo> Italian?
[10:14] <{LadyChristina}> i don't know what "it" stands for
[10:14] <{LadyChristina}> it depends on what it is
[10:14] <[PARTY]Varka> zetheroo, it doesnt matter if its the correct layout it just matters if its the same one used setting the password
[10:14]  * {LadyChristina} quotes Bill clinton
[10:15] <{LadyChristina}> suppose i enter keyboard manually?
[10:15] <{LadyChristina}> and enter qwerty?
[10:15] <zetheroo> {LadyChristina}: I suggest reinstall with a very simple password  - something like 'password' or so ... then login and check your keyboard in gedit or something
[10:15] <{LadyChristina}> thanks zetheroo, i'm on it!
[10:15] <{LadyChristina}> bbiab
[10:16] <zetheroo> or take a photo of your keyboard and share it here so we can see what it actually is .. (http://imgur.com/upload)
[10:16] <zetheroo> :)
[10:18] <zetheroo> Has anyone had experience getting FF plugins to work universally? I am trying to get KeeFox working.
[10:19] <yipppy_> zetheroo: fuck off
[10:19] <zetheroo> !ops
[10:19] <yipppy_> zetheroo: yes I have go FF.
[10:19] <zetheroo> ^ spamming me in PM
[10:20] <yipppy_> FF zetheroo for the third time.
[10:22] <blackflow> zetheroo: /mode zetheroo +R     to block unreg'd users from PM-ing you
[10:22] <zetheroo> ok
[10:22] <zetheroo> how does one know if they are unregistered?
[10:22] <croberts> zetheroo: knows all
[10:33] <{LadyChristina}> if i choose install security updates automatically, will my server shut down unexpectedly some day while it does updates for an hour like my windows machines have always done?
[10:34] <zetheroo> No
[10:34] <{LadyChristina}> wonderful
[10:34] <blackflow> {LadyChristina}: still, don't do automatic updates
[10:34] <zetheroo> ^ I agree
[10:34] <blackflow> rather install something like apticron to get an email when updates are available
[10:35] <zetheroo> {LadyChristina}: Ubuntu will notify you when there are available updates
[10:39] <croberts> im on 16.04 and want to goto the latest, should i just install Ubuntu with Gnome since Unity is going away
[10:39] <croberts> 16.04 unity*
[10:40] <croberts> to save myself headache in the future
[10:41] <zetheroo> you mean you want to install 17.04 with Gnome?
[10:41] <croberts> yeah, might as well do it now since unity is going away
[10:41] <Ben64> that logic doesn't really follow
[10:42] <croberts> what do you mean
[10:42] <Ben64> there's no point in putting gnome on now
[10:42] <croberts> ok
[10:42] <Ben64> it doesn't save any headache, don't even know what ubuntu will look like without unity
[10:42] <zetheroo> well it's up to you .. if you want to start getting used to Gnome now already then why not https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME
[10:44] <jmaybe> Someone will continue to maintain/update Unity in some form. Just bc it will no longer be "official" does not mean that it will disappear.
[10:45] <croberts> ah ok, makes more sense now, the article i read made it sound like it was going to become dead
[10:45] <croberts> cant believe everything you read on the internet :)
[10:46] <zetheroo>  jmaybe: that's the first time I hear that
[10:46] <zetheroo> what's the source for that?
[10:48] <jmaybe> Look at the history of a lot of current avail options. Many are due to similar circumstances. Someone else picks up the ball or wants to keep, or continue, where original left off.
[10:49] <zetheroo> If Canonical are dropping Unity development I'm a bit skeptical that it will be picked up to any very meaningful extent. But who knows ... maybe ...
[10:50] <zetheroo> I am already getting Gnome and KDE ready for our in-house Ubuntu users.
[10:53] <blackflow> not even Mir is dead, with MATE considering wayland-izing it and using for compositor
[11:23] <zetheroo> so there is /usr/lib/firefox and /usr/lib/firefox-addons and /usr/lib/mozilla .... anyone know what's the difference and which (if any) of them works?
[11:26] <ioria> zetheroo, what you mean with 'works' ? are you looking for the ff binary ?
[11:26] <zetheroo> I am trying to find where to have a universally installed FF extension/addon
[11:27] <blackadder1337> is there some 'native' and stable irc client, i'm having troubles with pidgin
[11:28] <ioria> zetheroo, https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1130750
[11:29] <ikevin> blackadder1337, hexchat
[11:31] <zetheroo> this is what I am trying to do 'Global installation' http://kb.mozillazine.org/Installing_extensions#Global_installation
[11:31] <fcanela> hello, I've been given access to a ubuntu server virtual machine
[11:32] <fcanela> it have the repositories linking to a cdrom
[11:32] <fcanela> but I would love to add the official servers
[11:32] <fcanela> anyone knows where I can find a list of the official servers for 10.04
[11:32] <Ben64> fcanela: https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[11:32] <fcanela> sorry, 16.04
[11:32] <fcanela> thanks, Ben64
[11:35] <{LadyChristina}> okay, it's now working and im logged onto the server
[11:35] <{LadyChristina}> thanks zetheroo!
[11:36] <zetheroo> {LadyChristina}: no worries ;)
[11:41] <mike_papa> Hello. Is it possible to forward serial port over lan? I mean I have one computer with Arduino attached to it (port is /dev/ttyACMx), and I want to use it from other computer.
[11:41] <mike_papa> What am I looking for?
[11:44] <ioria> mike_papa, ssh + minicom ? just an idea
[11:48] <mike_papa> ioria, I need something that will "create" serial port on my second pc. ssh+ minicom won't forward serial to it. It will just let me remotly use first pc.
[11:52] <trijntje_> I'm trying to install ubuntu 16.04.2 with luks encryption on an HP workstation using the graphical installer, but it keeps failing on mounting the home partition
[11:53] <trijntje_> "The attempt to mount a filesystem with the type ext4 in Encrypted volume (sda6_crypt) at /home failed"
[11:53] <trijntje_> how can I fix this?
[11:56] <BluesKaj> trijntje_, did you set the mountpoint for /home during the install?
[11:56] <BluesKaj> during the partitioning phase
[11:57] <ntd> One of my VMs lock up every other day. It is a MySQL server which usually starts crashing and reloading like crazy, then the VM freezes causing database and file system corruption
[11:57] <ntd> VM host dmesg output as it happens: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/9026998
[11:58] <trijntje_> BluesKaj: yes, I first create the physical volume for encryption, and then set the partition type and mount point for the resulting sda6_crypt
[11:59] <ejbs> Hey, is there a way of logging out a user from the terminal? My F7 session has crashed pretty badly
[12:01] <ioria> ejat, try gnome-session-quit --no-prompt
[12:30] <deke> hey all.  quick question about a potential reinstall
[12:31] <deke> 16.04
[12:32]  * BluesKaj waits for quick question
[12:32] <deke> thx @blueskaj
[12:32] <deke> ok.  so nautilus throws random error and resets.  so im considering reinstall
[12:32] <BluesKaj> no need for @ on irc
[12:33] <deke> but.  i have TBs of data in /Plex and quite a bit in /var/www.  Will a reinstall destroy these directories if i dont reformat?
[12:33] <Southern_Gentlem> yes
[12:33] <deke> ugh
[12:33] <Southern_Gentlem> do you have those folder on their own partition
[12:33] <deke> no
[12:34] <BluesKaj> deke, then you'll need to bacup all your data first
[12:34] <Southern_Gentlem> anytime you are doing a reinstall backup everything you dont want to loose
[12:35] <BluesKaj> deke recommend you create separate / and /home pertitions
[12:35] <Southern_Gentlem> with that much data you should be have a backup situation already in place
[12:35] <deke_> sorry, chrome crash
[12:35] <deke_> last i saw was backup all data
[12:35] <Southern_Gentlem> anytime you are doing a reinstall backup everything you dont want to loose
[12:35] <deke_> i do.  i have crashplan running.  just slow to get TBs off.
[12:36] <deke_> so is there a way to just reinstall nautilus/unity?  all this caused due to botched gnome install a while back.
[12:40] <BluesKaj> deke_, with separate / and /home partitions a reinstall can be done easily and quickly by installing to / and resetting the /home mountpoint during partitioning phase. This method saves the app config files in the /home dir
[12:41] <deke_> blueskaj too late to change that now??  or can i do that post-install?  Also, looking in forums here, looks like I can completely reset unity/compiz stuff w/o reinstall
[12:42] <deke_> .
[12:42] <deke_> <--oops on the .  bad thumb
[12:42] <JohnVonNeumann> hello
[12:42] <JohnVonNeumann> holy shit it works
[12:42] <JohnVonNeumann> aha
[12:43] <JohnVonNeumann> now i can go to bed
[12:43] <JohnVonNeumann> hi and bye
[12:46] <BluesKaj> deke_,looks old but it might work https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2057342
[12:47] <deke_> ill give it a try.  dinking with compiz first to see if i can fix some other minor issues.  who knows, it may fix the other
[12:47] <BluesKaj> deke_, yeah reinstalling is a last resort
[12:48] <deke_> indeed.  especially with TB of data.  :)
[12:50] <BluesKaj> I put all my personal important data on a separate drive to which my other pcs have network access
[12:51] <deke_> yeah, thats how i have windows.  initially this was to be a dev web server...then i started playing with it and enjoying the OS...then i started tinkering and all hell broke loose :)
[12:51] <deke_> so can i move /home to a new partition now, or just wait until / if i re-do ubuntu?
[12:54] <warewolf16> hey, ... vpn (openvpn) not working suddenly after a time of good working.
[12:54] <warewolf16> now it stops , I redo and configure everything but no use..
[12:54] <warewolf16> it says: time out for connection
[12:54] <warewolf16> the normal connection works but not vpn
[12:55] <warewolf16> any advice will be appreciated
[12:55] <deke_> warewolf16 i assume the server is up and you have access?  Can you access the server from a different machine?
[12:56] <warewolf16> how , I just followed a tutorila on youtube to configure a connection
[12:56] <warewolf16> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcx2-EkYYDg
[12:56] <BluesKaj> you need to create 2 new partitions / and /home , moving the data beforehand is merely backing it up again, deke_
[12:56] <warewolf16> that's it
[12:57] <deke_> blueskaj ok.  so if im understanding:  i can use partd or whatever the gui version is and sliver off a new home partition live then just "move" /home over?
[12:58] <deke_> my guess warewolf is that if its free, its likely overloaded
[12:58] <deke_> im not familliar with that service
[12:58] <BluesKaj> you have no separate /home right now, everything is on ? (root) including the home dir, deke_
[12:58] <deke_> correct.  everything is /
[12:59] <deke_> lemme dbl check to make sure tho
[12:59] <warewolf16> i download a .ovpn file from vpnbook @deke_
[12:59] <BluesKaj> correction  / (root)
[12:59] <BluesKaj> deke_,^
[12:59] <warewolf16> do u recommend a good server to work on it
[12:59] <warewolf16> instead?
[13:00] <deke_> blueskaj correct.  everything is based on /
[13:00] <deke_> warewolf16 i use privateinternetaccess.  there are others
[13:01] <warewolf16> ok , so it's probably a server loading problem , hoping so.. , thanks @deke_
[13:01] <BluesKaj> warewolf16, PIA is excellent ...use it a lot
[13:01] <trijntje_> I've installed ubuntu with disk encryption, but I created the encrypted partitions outside of the graphical installer. Now, I'm not asked for my password when I boot and I get an error that the root filesystem cannot be found. Where did I go wrong?
[13:02] <deke_> That actually reminds me.  i need to set PIA up on ubuntu....well, wait, its on router level..no i dont :)
[13:02] <warewolf16> ok , I'll google it @BluesKaj
[13:02] <deke_> warewolf16 privateinternetaccess.com
[13:03] <BluesKaj> deke_, best to try fixing nautllus first , think 1Tb of data id rather daunting to backup
[13:03] <deke_> home is only 1GB
[13:03] <deke_> its plex thats 3.8TB
[13:03] <BluesKaj> id=is
[13:03] <deke_> THATS the one im worried about losing
[13:03] <deke_> var/www/owncloud too
[13:04] <deke_> which both are on root part
[13:04] <deke_> (i did fix compiz issues.  discovered a reset command)
[13:04] <deke_> ooo, discovery blueskaj.  nautilus is crashing when variety tries to change wallpaper.
[13:05] <deke_> it JUST happened when i was actally paying attention to whats goin on
[13:05] <deke_> (only thing open on that box atm)
[13:05] <BluesKaj> graphics issues ?
[13:05] <deke_> doubt it.  when it crashes, desktop icons go away.  then when it crashes again, they come back
[13:05] <deke_> that said, my panels and stuff stay in place
[13:06] <deke_> could be graphics i suppose -- using nvidia drivers
[13:07] <BluesKaj> which gpu?
[13:07] <deke_> geforce 730.
[13:07] <deke_> there is an onboard amd, but its horrible and doesnt have HDMI (required for my monitor)
[13:07] <BluesKaj> is that the 340 driver?
[13:08] <deke_> lemme look
[13:08] <deke_> 381.22
[13:11] <deke_> yeah.  381.22.  only nvidia versions im seeing
[13:14] <BluesKaj> deke_, is this an optimus hybrid gpu system ?  if so that's could be what's causing the crashes..
[13:14] <deke_> no, its an old hp pavillion.
[13:14] <deke_> with AMD vision baked onto motherboard (disabled)
[13:15] <deke_> i put the 730 in to provide HDMI (and better graphics for my steam test)
[13:15] <BluesKaj> yeah, so nvidia 39=81 seems rather hi-level for a geforce 730
[13:16] <BluesKaj> 381
[13:16] <deke_> hah
[13:16] <deke_> so should i roll back a few?
[13:16] <deke_> i just grabbed the latest and greatest (used to windows...) for what i thought would be optimal compatibility
[13:17] <BluesKaj> deke_, unless it's the recommended driver in additional drivers
[13:17] <deke_> didnt even use that
[13:17] <deke_> just went to site and downloaded
[13:18] <BluesKaj> you should have installed from the repos not the site
[13:18] <deke_> hmmm
[13:18] <BluesKaj> next kernel upgrade will break your system
[13:18] <deke_> says im using an alternate driver now and gives a choice of 5 nvidia binary drivers and one x.org x driver
[13:19] <deke_> thx for the warning.  so i need to fix this graphics driver issue asap
[13:19] <BluesKaj> which drivers are they
[13:19] <BluesKaj> yes
[13:20] <deke_> 384.47 (opensource), 370.28 (open source) 340.102 (open source) xorg nouveau, 375.66 (proprietary) and 378.13
[13:20] <deke_> (open source)
[13:20] <deke_> and it says no proprietary drivers in use
[13:21] <BluesKaj> think the 384 is experimental, the 375 seems most appropriate
[13:22] <deke_> that is too handy.  changing to 375 now
[13:23] <deke_> so when next version drops, will i be forced into gnome, or will it keep everyting as 16.05 is/
[13:23] <deke_> er 04
[13:23] <deke_> (as in using compiz/cairo-dock now, not gnome)
[13:25] <BluesKaj> I'm a KDE user, but iirc gnome is default on the next release17.10
[13:25] <BluesKaj> kde=kubuntu
[13:25] <deke_> so that being the case, when you get 17.10 will you have to do anything special or will  kde stay in place?
[13:26] <deke_> also, should i reboot after the driver install ala windows, or is ubuntu smart enough not to have to mess with silly reboots
[13:26] <BluesKaj> kubuntu is a different OS than Ubuntu like lubunru and xubuntu are
[13:27] <deke_> oh
[13:27] <BluesKaj> deke_, usually a reboot is in order
[13:27] <deke_> ok.
[13:27] <deke_> so im going to reboot and hopefully all will be ok.  ill check back in shortly.
[13:28] <deke_> oh, before i go
[13:28] <BluesKaj> !flavors
[13:28] <deke_> unrelated:  with ubuntu now in win10.  anyway to tie the two together to get linux programs on my server to run on the windows side?  (yes, ssh for cli stuff, but thinking more xwin)
[13:29] <deke_> like if i wanted to run some config stuff using gui from windows w/o having to switch kvm (i know, lazy) :)
[13:29] <BluesKaj> no clue , haven't eevn looked into that
[13:29] <deke_> ok
[13:29] <deke_> well, here goes the reboot.  thanks for assist.
[13:30] <BluesKaj> np, you should be good
[13:32] <{LadyChristina}> to install a deamon on my ubuntu server, do i need to burn an image file of the deamon download, put the disk in my server and just click install or exe?
[13:33] <{LadyChristina}> im using inspircd
[13:34] <arun007> {LadyChristina}: Can you explain?
[13:34] <{LadyChristina}> yes, i know nothing about linux, very little about irc other than chatting
[13:34] <slipttees> Hi guys
[13:35] <arun007> slipttees: hi too
[13:35] <{LadyChristina}> i am tired of being coerced for cyber sex on other irc servers by server ops, and getting banned for not complying
[13:35] <{LadyChristina}> so i am going to make my own better, upright, irc network embracing catalyst guidelines and open society philosophies
[13:36] <{LadyChristina}> so far i have installed ubuntu sever version 17 on an unused desktop, it's up and running
[13:36] <DArqueBishop> {LadyChristina}: that will only lead to tears.
[13:36] <{LadyChristina}> now i need to put my urc daemon on it
[13:36] <{LadyChristina}> im used to tears, Bishop
[13:36] <slipttees> I have dual boot UEFI, windows one time or another only stays on a black screen with the mouse cursor
[13:37] <{LadyChristina}> i am a Sidhe Warrior Princess, I cry, and I make others cry
[13:43] <slipttees> I have dual boot UEFI, ubuntu 16.04 and Windows 10. Windows boot black screen with the mouse cursor
[13:44] <sruli> I have an issue with my ubuntu 16.04 - if i leave the PC idle for a period of time (10-20) hours, upon my return it seems frozen but if i go to tty1 i see i/o errors, i ran fsck and no problems found on the drive i also checked for badblocks and none were found, its an SSD drive. see image of errors here https://pasteboard.co/GAIoEQr.jpg
[14:12] <alesan> hello
[14:12] <alesan> I am on my mom's PC
[14:12] <alesan> she has a Description:	Ubuntu 15.10
[14:12] <alesan> I would like to update to the latest LTS
[14:12] <alesan> that should be 16.04
[14:12] <alesan> how can I do that?
[14:15] <slipttees> alesan: install all 15.04 updates
[14:15] <minimec> alesan: short version: change your sources to old-releases.ubuntu.com, do the latest updates; then upgrade to 16.04. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[14:16] <slipttees> minimec: cook
[14:16] <alesan> hey
[14:16] <DJones> slipttees: Installing 15.04 updates won't help, when they're already on 15.10
[14:17] <alesan> slipttees, I rebooted by mistake now I'm bach
[14:17] <alesan> I have 15.10
[14:17] <slipttees> humm sorry...
[14:18] <slipttees> alesan: minimec say... install all 15.10 update than, u can upgrade
[14:18] <slipttees> DJones: i read wrong kk
[14:18] <alesan> in practice?
[14:19] <alesan> apt update && apt upgrade   ???
[14:19] <slipttees> alesan: <minimec> alesan: short version: change your sources to old-releases.ubuntu.com, do the latest updates; then upgrade to 16.04. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[14:19] <alesan> OK
[14:23] <jayjo> I installed python from source and now I would like to remove it, but unfortunately there is no uninstall target in the makefile. How do I go about this now?
[14:23] <slipttees> I have dual boot UEFI, ubuntu 16.04 and Windows 10. Windows boot black screen :-(
[14:23] <minimec> jayjo: You will find the install target in the make file.
[14:24] <sruli> I have an issue with my ubuntu 16.04 - if i leave the PC idle for a period of time (10-20) hours, upon my return it seems frozen but if i go to tty1 i see i/o errors, i ran fsck and no problems found on the drive i also checked for badblocks and none were found, its an SSD drive. see image of errors here https://pasteboard.co/GAIoEQr.jpg
[14:26] <jayjo> minimec: is it in a specific location?
[14:28] <jayjo> I'm looking at this SO question here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1439950/whats-the-opposite-of-make-install-ie-how-do-you-uninstall-a-library-in-lin
[14:28] <jayjo> does this work making the deb file AFTER i've run make install? Or is this the better way to to install from now on so I can back up
[14:29] <computer2000> Anyone knows about the theory that states that human perception of objects/things on a lower resolution video with higher framerate is better than on a higher resoltion video with lower framerate?
[14:29] <alesan> after following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades I get:
[14:29] <alesan> The required dependency 'apt (>= <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu2)' is not installed.
[14:29] <minimec> jayjo: Look for 'install_target'
[14:30] <squig> computer2000, I know a little bit about hfr material, bit off topic here :D
[14:31] <computer2000> squig, i know OT sorry. do you know where I can find more info on this?
[14:31] <jayjo> minimec: there is no install_target in the makefile
[14:32] <squig> computer2000, ACM SIGGRAPH papers?
[14:33] <squig> I know about it from there talking about what we could get away with compression and resolution wise whilst generating hfr films
[14:35] <minimec> jayjo: What was the compiling procedure you had to use? Because if you had to use 'configure, make, make install', the install target has to be in the Makefile of the python source directory. Otherwise 'make' would not know, where to install the compiled software.
[14:36] <slipttees> alesan: change sources.list to old?
[14:36] <Skyrider> go buil = golang?
[14:36] <jayjo> minimec: this is the output of make -n : https://bpaste.net/show/b22eb275a524
[14:36] <Skyrider> **go buikld
[14:36] <Skyrider> **build, dammit >_>
[14:36] <Skyrider> Trying to use go build, but my linux says go is an unknown command.
[14:37] <squig> computer2000, from there there will be referneces to psych papers, and other ACM material.
[14:37] <jayjo> do i just rm -f  the /usr/local/bin/python3.6 dir?
[14:37] <squig> computer2000, and likely  acedemy and SEMPTE papers.
[14:42] <alesan> slipttees, as I said, I have followed what was stated in the webpage you linkes
[14:42] <alesan> linked
[14:43] <alesan> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ wily main restricted universe multiverse etc etc
[14:43] <minimec> jayjo: There are file in /usr/local/lib, /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/share/man, just havin g a quick oberview...
[14:43] <{LadyChristina}> what would happen if i download ubuntu desktop onto the machine i just installed ubuntu 17.04 on?
[14:44] <{LadyChristina}> my problem is i just don't know where to start learing linux and everything i found on google is just nonsens
[14:44] <{LadyChristina}> it doesn't tell you anything useful
[14:44] <{LadyChristina}> how can i learn to control my server? what do i need to know?
[14:44] <donofrio> what is the files (resolv.conf?) that postpends fqdn when you only type hostname (like ssh hostname (but it doesn't connect except when I use hostname.realm.subdomain.etc))
[14:44] <leftyfb> {LadyChristina}: http://a.co/9x90YmN    this helped me get started with linux
[14:45] <ioria> alesan, there are 3 repos, (main, updates, and security) non only main
[14:45] <leftyfb> donofrio: "search somedomain.com" in /etc/resolv.conf. But that should be autopopulated with your router/DHCP server
[14:46] <alesan> ioria, OK:
[14:46] <donofrio> ok I'll check - tnx
[14:46] <alesan> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:46] <alesan> ## EOL upgrade sources.list
[14:46] <alesan> # Required
[14:46] <alesan> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ wily main restricted universe multiverse
[14:46] <alesan> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ wily-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[14:46] <ioria> alesan, paste on paste.ubuntu.com
[14:47] <donofrio> leftyfb, I see "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN" do you know what gui setting applet I should be doing this in.....
[14:47] <leftyfb> donofrio: again, your router/DHCP server should be what populates that
[14:48] <leftyfb> donofrio: configure your network domain on your router or dhcp server
[14:48] <alesan> ioria, do you want to check my sources.list? should I pastebin it?
[14:48] <ioria> alesan, if ou want
[14:48] <donofrio> leftyfb, I'm in Corp Enterprise Network setting, do not have access to anything outside of this host
[14:48] <v2zz> hi! how can I find out my pci express interface type? actually is it PCI-Express x16 or anything else
[14:49] <alesan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25082347/ ioria
[14:50] <ioria> alesan, it's ok;   grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[14:50] <leftyfb> donofrio: your IT dept. should be the one to populate that properly then. If not, you'll have to use network manager (top right wifi/arrow icon) and edit your wired/wireless connection for your work and add it in under IPV4 settings -> additional search domains
[14:50] <alesan> ioria Prompt=normal
[14:51] <ioria> alesan, sudo nano  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades   and change that 'normal' in  lts
[14:51] <alesan> OK...
[14:53] <alesan> OK I need to leave now. I will try again later
[14:54] <ioria> ok
[14:54] <alesan> bye!
[15:05] <Mitchell1992> Hi... I was hoping to run Kopano Community on my Ubuntu server as a good alternative for Exchange, with Push and everything, plus with the video communication. I do some consulting work. I was hoping there would be an easy PPA or script to install everything?
[15:05] <spider_x> Hello, I am using lightdm and I have an issue when I logout, it ends up in a black screen.
[15:06] <spider_x> or I think it is lightdm
[15:06] <nacc> !ppa | Mitchell1992: you can search for them
[15:06] <Mitchell1992> Thanks.
[15:11] <Tiral> hello, info about update ubuntu from 16.10 to 17.04
[15:11] <nacc> Tiral: is that a question?
[15:11] <Tiral> ahh, yes
[15:12] <nacc> Tiral: what is the question?
[15:13] <sruli> I have an issue with my ubuntu 16.04 - if i leave the PC idle for a period of time (10-20) hours, upon my return it seems frozen but if i go to tty1 i see i/o errors, i ran fsck and no problems found on the drive i also checked for badblocks and none were found, its an SSD drive. see image of errors here https://pasteboard.co/GAIoEQr.jpg
[15:13] <Tiral> nacc, can you give me the  url where get the update procedure?
[15:14] <pavlos> Tiral: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes
[15:14] <nacc> Tiral: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes
[15:14] <Tiral> thank you all
[15:14] <{LadyChristina}> if i am typing on the command line in ubuntu server and all i get back is gibberish do i have the wrong keyboard setup installed?
[15:18] <pavlos> {LadyChristina}: can you ssh from another system? do you still get gibberish?
[15:18] <{LadyChristina}> no i dont know what ssh is
[15:18] <{LadyChristina}> all i know is i type one thing and another letter comes out at random
[15:19] <{LadyChristina}> all i have installed is the ubuntu server software, trying to install an irc daemon
[15:19] <sruli> {LadyChristina}: does type the same letter each time or is it completly random?
[15:19] <{LadyChristina}> its random
[15:20] <ouroumov> {LadyChristina}, ssh is the client software you usually use to connect to your server from another machine.
[15:20] <sruli> {LadyChristina}: does not seem like a wrong keyboard install... does it happen after rebbot?
[15:22] <{LadyChristina}> let me try to reboot
[15:22] <{LadyChristina}> what is the command for reboot?
[15:23] <pavlos> sudo reboot
[15:23] <sruli> how will you type it?
[15:24] <{LadyChristina}> dont know the password
[15:25] <{LadyChristina}> guess i will reinstall and make sure to write down the sudo pass
[15:25] <{LadyChristina}> fuck
[15:26] <{LadyChristina}> 12 goddamnd times i loaded this shit
[15:26] <leftyfb> {LadyChristina}: please watch the language
[15:26] <sruli> {LadyChristina}: the sudo password is the password for your user account
[15:26] <pavlos> !language
[15:27] <{LadyChristina}> well i come here for help, where its supposed to be available and all i get most of the time is smart answers basically deriding me for trying to learn something i dont know
[15:27] <{LadyChristina}> bad language is one of the least offensive things humans so
[15:27] <leftyfb> {LadyChristina}: So far I have only seen people trying to help you, not deride you.
[15:27] <{LadyChristina}> you haven't been in the help channel
[15:28] <leftyfb> {LadyChristina}: I've been here for quite some time
[15:28] <{LadyChristina}> for instance, one of you could just simply tell me how to find the password for the sudo
[15:28] <nacc> {LadyChristina}: the sudo password is your *user's* password
[15:28] <nacc> as sruli *just* said
[15:28] <{LadyChristina}> it doesn't work
[15:29] <nacc> {LadyChristina}: if your keyboard is messed up, as you indicated it, it probably won't work, as sruli also just said
[15:29] <{LadyChristina}> pardon me im so mad i can't think straight
[15:29] <sruli> {LadyChristina}: what error do you get? also if your keyboard is not working how are you managing to type "sudo reboot" ?
[15:29] <leftyfb> {LadyChristina}: probably because of the keyboard configuration issue. My guess is you might have hit a key when they keyboard selection came up during install and picked something other than what you intended
[15:29] <{LadyChristina}> on a laptop server is a desktop
[15:30] <{LadyChristina}> how do you find out what keyboard config to enter into ubuntu?
[15:30] <{LadyChristina}> the test thing they have does not work
[15:30] <sruli> {LadyChristina}: so you are logged in with ssh?
[15:30] <leftyfb> {LadyChristina}: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[15:30] <{LadyChristina}> no i am not logged in with ssh
[15:30] <leftyfb> {LadyChristina}: the problem is, it's going to ask for your password
[15:30] <pavlos> try unplug/replug the keyboard
[15:30] <{LadyChristina}> i am just logged into the server
[15:30] <{LadyChristina}> can't add anything else to it yet
[15:31] <sruli> {LadyChristina}: how do you type "sudo reboot" from your laptop to your desktop?
[15:31] <sruli> is this a new kind of troll????
[15:31] <Southern_Gentlem> sruli,  you open a terminal
[15:31] <{LadyChristina}> that is just what i mean!
[15:31] <leftyfb> I don't think she does. I think she's typing it directly to the console. I don't think the laptop is involved at all other than asking for help here
[15:32] <ioria> {LadyChristina}, can you post a pic of the gibberish you got ?
[15:32] <{LadyChristina}> i have said repeatedly i dont know anything and people like you say that kind of stuff sruli
[15:32] <{LadyChristina}> i will next time it comes up
[15:32] <sruli> so if the keyboard is typing gibberish how is "sudo reboot" getting typed???
[15:32] <pavlos> you have a desktop, it runs ubuntu server and your are logged in as user christina, right?
[15:33] <leftyfb> {LadyChristina}: I hate to say it, but I think your best bet, since your keyboard isn't working and you haven't actually put any time into this install, is to just reinstall it and take care to pick the proper keyboard/locale during setup.
[15:34] <{LadyChristina}> ok how do i know what the proper keyboard is of the several choices? try each on in a series of installs?
[15:35] <leftyfb> {LadyChristina}: if you've got a typical US keyboard, then the default will work
[15:35] <{LadyChristina}> ok thanks
[15:35] <leftyfb> {LadyChristina}: my guess is, you might have inadvertently picked something else during the most recently install
[15:35] <pavlos> if you try sudo apt update, it will ask for user christna's pass ... but if your keyb does not work, it will not AUTH
[15:36] <leftyfb> pavlos: I think we're good now
[15:36] <pavlos> k
[15:36] <ioria> {LadyChristina}, are you sure you can do/type/parse  anything  with that condition ?
[15:39] <sruli> I have an issue with my ubuntu 16.04 - if i leave the PC idle for a period of time (10-20) hours, upon my return it seems frozen but if i go to tty1 i see i/o errors, i ran fsck and no problems found on the drive i also checked for badblocks and none were found, its an SSD drive. see image of errors here https://pasteboard.co/GAIoEQr.jpg
[15:39] <cuddylier> I have a bridge setup on my only interface, eth0
[15:39] <cuddylier> And I want to add IPs to interfaces outside of the bridge e.g. eth0:1, eth0:2 etc
[15:40] <cuddylier> How should I go about doing this? I already tried adding to the 'interfaces' file like normal but the IPs refuse to come up/work.
[15:48] <pavlos> cuddylier: this might help, https://askubuntu.com/questions/585468/how-do-i-add-an-additional-ip-address-to-an-interface-in-ubuntu-14
[15:48] <cuddylier> Got it sorted, had to add them to the bridge interface instead.
[15:54] <deke> if i download 17.04, how hard will upgrading to 17.xx LTS be?
[15:55] <limbo_> I don't think 17.10 is LTS
[15:55] <Pici> it isn't
[15:55] <deke> its not
[15:55] <deke> but when it releases, trying to figure out if it will be a PITA to swap over
[15:55] <deke> from 17.04 to whatever the LTS is
[15:56] <Pici> deke: 18.04 will be the next LTS, if you install 17.04 now, you'll need to upgrade to 17.10, then 18.04
[15:56] <deke> so if i install 16.04, will 18.04 come in automatically?  or still 17.1 then 18.04
[15:57] <deke> and by automatically i mean a notification saying 'hey, new version out -- update now' or some variant
[15:58] <pavlos> deke: you will get a notify that 18.04 is available with an upgrade button.
[15:58] <deke> pavlos either way i go, or just 16.04
[15:59] <pavlos> deke: I believe that holds for LTS releases
[15:59] <deke> ok
[15:59] <deke> so stick with 16 then for ease of upgrade.  got it.  thanks
[15:59] <limbo_> deke: there's nothing specia about LTS releases, aside from them not pestering you to upgrade after six months.
[15:59] <Pici> deke: once 18.04.1 is out it'll be available for upgrading from 16.04
[16:00] <deke> ok.  so then is there any advantage to staying 16?
[16:00] <deke> currently 16.04 but am about to format...debating whether to dl 17 or stay with 16
[16:01] <sruli> deke: 16.04 is LTS
[16:01] <pavlos> deke: install 17.04 on a vm
[16:01] <deke> gotcha.  ill stay 16
[16:01] <leftyfb> limbo_: LTS releases will notify and allow upgrading to the next LTS release. Non-LTS will only allow upgrading to the next release, LTS or not.
[16:01] <deke> and update 18 when it drops
[16:01] <limbo_> If you're on an LTS version, you can wait two years between upgrades. That's it.
[16:02] <limbo_> leftyfb: I know. You can change an LTS install to a regular one pretty easily though.
[16:02] <leftyfb> limbo_: it's also worked on through it's life cycle to be kept stable and secure.
[16:02] <deke> ok.
[16:02] <deke> so now to wait on a folder to compress and move and then the big format.  Thanks for assist
[16:02] <leftyfb> limbo_: change? You mean you can upgrade from LTS to the next non-LTS release.
[16:03] <deke> wait
[16:03] <deke> nm
[16:03] <limbo_> leftyfb: thats what I mean. There's an option to decide whether you get alerted about that.
[16:04] <leftyfb> LTS can upgrade to the next release (16.04 -> 16.10) and LTS to the next LTS release (16.04 -> 18.04). Whereas non-LTS can only upgrade to the next release (17.04 -> 17.10) regardless if the next release is LTS or not.
[16:04] <leftyfb> limbo_: LTS releases are generally more stable and are supported for a lot longer
[16:11] <pavlos> deke: there is an option in Software & Updates, Update tab to be notified for ANY new release (instead of just LTS
[16:11] <deke> ok.  prolly gonna stay LTS just for stability / compatibility reasons
[16:11] <Richard_Cavell> I just had a complete facepalm moment.  I have a NES-style gamepad attached to my machine.  I loaded up NEStopia and was playing Double Dragon using the gamepad.  But it was making funny sound effects.  Spent some time investigating.  Then I realized that I had fceux open in a different workspace, and was simultaneously playing Metroid with the same gamepad.
[16:11] <deke> good lord, how long does it take to mv 500GB across a drive.  /kidding.
[16:12] <deke> Richard LOL
[16:21] <jeffreylevesque> has anyone implement selinux on trusty64?
[16:23] <oerheks_> jeffreylevesque, unlikely .. ubuntu uses AppArmor ..  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SELinux
[16:23] <sruli> I have an issue with my ubuntu 16.04 - if i leave the PC idle for a period of time (10-20) hours, upon my return it seems frozen but if i go to tty1 i see i/o errors, i ran fsck and no problems found on the drive i also checked for badblocks and none were found, its an SSD drive. see image of errors here https://pasteboard.co/GAIoEQr.jpg
[16:23] <oerheks_> sruli, hard to tell what could have caused this, did you run memtest86 too?
[16:24] <sruli> oerheks_: yes
[16:24] <jeffreylevesque> i had it working about 1.5 months ago on a test vm
[16:24] <jeffreylevesque> but, forgot how i provisioned selinux
[16:26] <meandrain> hi. I've installed ubuntu server from usb stick to another usb stick. After that I've removed the install usb stick but the machine will not boot, it is stucked at initramfs. Any idea where to change so it will see the root partition?
[16:27] <blackflow> jeffreylevesque: ubuntu is configured for apparmor. that means you should disable apparmor and enable selinux, iirc through kernel command line. the rest is installing the userland packages and relabelling the system.
[16:29] <blackflow> jeffreylevesque: there's also this. note the warning: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SELinux
[16:34] <PCatinean> Can someone help me setup duply + amazon s3? I keep getting error like No handler was ready to authenticate or Invalid bucket name in URI
[16:45] <Onepamopa> hm
[17:10] <minas114> Two days ago I updated the software on my PC. It was a small update. After I restarted, my pc hangs. The app to blame is indicate-datetime. I was able to install gnome-shell (which I'm currently using) but I'd like to use unity. Did anyone experience the same issue in the last few days?   Please how do I remove it from root?
[17:33] <Sleaker> ycyclist: did you check /var/cache/apt directories for the lock or /var/lib/dpkg ?
[17:33] <ycyclist> Got it.      Is it still okay to refer to Windows, if at all, as a worthless toy operating system that is the greatest threat to engineering productivity on the planet, if not in the entire universe?
[17:41] <acresearch> ycyclist: yes
[17:41] <ycyclist> Thank you.
[17:41] <arun007> ycyclist: hi
[17:48] <acresearch> xangua: it is not installed by default?
[17:49] <xangua> acresearch: should be
[17:50] <xangua> Haven't burned in ages personally, if not: sudo apt install brasero
[17:50] <acresearch> xangua: just installed it through apt, i choose make disk image right? not data copy?
[17:50] <xangua> I understand that you can also just drag the ISO to the file manager (while selecting the disc drive unit)
[17:51] <acresearch> xangua: failed
[17:51] <acresearch> SCSI error, what is that?
[17:51] <acresearch> xangua:  pose_copy.assign(pose)
[17:51] <acresearch> xangua:  SCSI error on write(176,16): [3 0C 00] Medium error. Write error.
[18:01] <pmitros> I am trying to set up a classic LAN. No internet connection. A few servers. I'd like sensible DHCP, DNS, and ideally, a captive portal of some kind, more for discovery of what services are available.
[18:02] <pmitros> People connect to the network, and they get a menu of things they can do.
[18:02] <pmitros> Any advice on the right tools to use?
[18:03] <pmitros> I'd need dhcp, DNS, and ideally, some kind of fallback on the DNS so unrecognized domains go to some default. This could be in the Ubuntu server hosting most of the services, or if there's a stand-alone router which does some of this, that would work too.
[18:06] <alkisg> pmitros: dnsmasq?
[18:07] <pmitros> alkisg: No upstream internet of any sort. This won't be just a cache
[18:07] <alkisg> pmitros: and? dnsmasq can work as a normal dns server...
[18:08] <alkisg> It's *also* caching, but of course it can do normal dns as well
[18:08] <pmitros> alkisg: Ah. Didn't know that. Saw the short description. What's the upside/downside versus djbdns?
[18:08] <venthe1650> i have registered my nickname
[18:08] <venthe1650> can i ask here for help now or how does it work?
[18:08] <alkisg> pmitros: it has dhcp and tftp as well
[18:09] <BluesKaj> congratulations
[18:09] <pmitros> Oh. That seems perfect, then. My thought was djbdns+dhcp-server3, but that's pretty heavy.
[18:09] <venthe1650> or do I have to change channel?
[18:09] <BluesKaj> venthe1650, just ask your real question
[18:11] <venthe1650> I had a problem with booting on my laptop it displayed Error “fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed” and it took a few reboots to get it started so I tried to fix it using solution on this website https://askubuntu.com/questions/50451/error-fixing-recursive-fault-but-reboot-is-needed
[18:11] <venthe1650> after that recursive fault was gone but my computer booted in 800x600 graphic with no touchpad or touchscreen support with no option to change it
[18:11] <venthe1650> so I reverted the changes but it didnt revert to previous state
[18:12] <venthe1650> it still boots with 800x600 with no support
[18:12] <alkisg> venthe1650: what's the output of `cat /proc/cmdline` now?
[18:13] <venthe1650> now im on windows ... what a shame so cannot check that
[18:13] <alkisg> OK, come back when you can give feedback
[18:13] <venthe1650> ok
[18:16] <geri> hi, whats the problem here? cmd="curl -X POST -d '{"Test": "12"}' http://localhost:8080/test" geri$ $cmd curl: (3) [globbing] unmatched close brace/bracket in column 3
[18:16] <minimec> venthe1650: Can you plug a mouse to replace the touchpad for debugging? It is indeed important that you can give us all the needed information while running the system you have porblems with, or at least run it aside the computer you use to chat with us.
[18:19] <venthe1650> it turns out i cant even access internet
[18:19] <venthe1650> network settings are just empty when i open it
[18:20] <venthe1650> so i cannot check it :/
[18:22] <venthe1650> is there any way to reset all settings to default on ubuntu?
[18:23] <jhutchins_wk> So you've added those items to the grub boot commands?
[18:24] <venthe1650> acpi=off nomodeset xforcevesa ? yes
[18:24] <venthe1650> then i deleted this part
[18:24] <jhutchins_wk> venthe1650: nomodeset will not allow you to load the graphics driver.
[18:24] <jhutchins_wk> venthe1650: xforcevesa enforces the vesa driver.
[18:25] <venthe1650> but now the setting is as it was before but it loads without drivers
[18:25] <venthe1650> i reverted the change
[18:26] <jhutchins_wk> venthe1650: It may have modified the xorg config files.
[18:26] <minimec> venthe1650: Did you 'sudo update-grub' after reverting changes?
[18:26] <venthe1650> is there any way to revert this change?
[18:27] <venthe1650> not it looks like that GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[18:27] <venthe1650> i will try
[18:27] <venthe1650> anything else i could try?
[18:28] <discovered> I am using asus x99 strix gaming mobo. If i want to dual boot ubuntu with windows , should select "Other Os" in secure boot?
[18:28] <pavlos> geri: pass -g in curl to turn off globbing
[18:31] <geri> pavlos: what else?
[18:32] <jhutchins_wk> venthe1650: Check /etc/X11 for config files; move them or rename them.
[18:33] <sgen> Hi, Im trying to create a systemd service. These examples: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.service.html#Examples , all include a 'WantedBy=multi-user-target' option. Is this just a means of insuring that the service starts after the multi-user.target services or is there more to it?
[18:34] <venthe1650> i will try thx brb
[18:34] <minimec> jhutchins_wk: venthe1650: I am pretty sure he will not find any xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[18:34] <pavlos> geri: this may help, https://stackoverflow.com/questions/17560858/command-prompt-having-trouble-escaping-quotes-and-braces
[18:39] <swift110> hey all
[18:40] <Jordan_U> discovered: Are you currently trying to boot from an Ubuntu liveUSB?
[18:40] <discovered> Jordan_U, yes
[18:40] <discovered> i just want to install it
[18:42] <ax562> what can I do to fix my sound on ubuntu 16.04 lts when I output through hdmi.  I'm trying to use my tv speakers and not my laptop speakers.
[18:43] <glitsj16> sgen: that's the correct reading of WantedBy yes, nothing secretive involved
[18:43] <venthe1650> it worked
[18:43] <meandrain> when I press E at boot time I can edit loader options. How can I make that change persistent after next boot
[18:43] <venthe1650> thank you very much :)
[18:44] <sgen> glitsj16: Thank you :) just making sure
[18:45] <ax562> any thoughts?
[18:45] <minimec> venthe1650: jhutchins_wk: You really had a xorg.conf in /etc/X11? I would not have expected that... Or was it just reverting the changes and 'sudo update-grub'?
[18:45] <ax562> it was working previously.  not sure what happened.  I used to go into pulse audio and change output to hdmi but that option isn't selectable anymore (not there at all)
[18:45] <venthe1650> i did both
[18:46] <minimec> venthe1650: Anyway... Don't worry, be happy... ;)
[18:46] <venthe1650> i had Xwrapper.conf and xorg.conf.failsafe in x11
[18:47] <venthe1650> moved it to backup folder and updated grub and everything works
[18:47] <glitsj16> sgen: you're welcome, not everyone actually reads systemd man pages, smart move to do so and ask questions actually
[18:48] <sgen> glitsj16: man pages*
[18:48] <sgen> I do try though ;p
[18:49] <glitsj16> sgen: systemd is complex, but if you get a grip on the 'logic' involved you can use the man pages as a syntax reference, at least you know they exist :p
[19:02] <r4j> Hi there, a newbie question.. Hope this is the right forum to ask
[19:04] <glitsj16> r4j: Welcome, ask away.. people will guide you to other channels when appropriate
[19:06] <r4j> Well, I got 17.10 installed on a pretty fast laptop. It was working fine and it is still except that the desk top loading is quite slow after I enter the credentials. It suddenly  happened, was super quick always before
[19:07] <nacc> r4j: 17.10 in #ubuntu+1
[19:07] <ioria> !17.10
[19:07] <nacc> r4j: but also, a newbie probably shoudn't be installing an unreleased version of Ubuntu
[19:08] <r4j> okay. Thanks!
[19:08] <meandrain> so in order to change root from sdb1 to sda1 I have to edit /etc/default/grub, but there's nothing there related to sdb. I have sdb1 in grub.cfg which says "don't edit this file"
[19:09] <mistawright> hi guys i need some help. im getting this error on one of my servers: curl: (60) server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt CRLfile: none i have already ran update-ca-certificates and still receive the curl erro
[19:11] <minimec> meandrain: You will have to change '/etc/fstab'. You can get the UUID of 'sda1' with 'blkid'
[19:13] <meandrain> there's no line to mount / on /etc/fstab
[19:13] <meandrain> wait there is
[19:13] <ntd> i could look it up, but which kernel will 17.10 be shipped with?
[19:14] <ioria> !info linux-generic artful
[19:14] <nacc> ntd: 4.13 is the plan, iirc, but #ubuntu+1
[19:14] <meandrain> minimec: thanx you, I was stupid and I've looked somewhere else, having mounted from a live image
[19:15] <minimec> meandrain: No problem. I hope you know what you do, because you touch the base of your installation... ;)
[19:15] <meandrain> I know :)
[19:16] <meandrain> well if I know what I am doing then I don't learn anything
[19:17] <mistawright> any ideas?
[19:19] <minimec> meandrain: Well.. Beeing aware of the fact that you can blow up the system often leads to some kind of security measures like backup or having a USB based system for debugging...
[19:40] <nbusrone> How do I list files without folder but include dates or file size ?
[19:41] <akik> nbusrone: ls -al | grep -v "^d"
[19:41] <minimec> nbusrone: stat -c "%y %s %n" *
[19:45] <nbusrone> akik  minimec : it's similar but I wanted it to even list files folder in folder directory together.
[19:46] <nbusrone> akik  minimec : minus the directory path
[19:54] <sgen> Is /var/lib/ the equivalent of /var/db/ on ubuntu?
[19:55] <minimec> nbusrone: Include 'recursive' in akik's command? 'ls -alR | grep -v "^d" | less' but you will get the content of the hidden folders too...
[19:57] <mutedsigh> any of you guys ever have to deal with a TPM error? I'm trying to install Xubuntu on an HP Elitebook 6930p. I tried both with the TPM enabled and disabled and I get USB device descriptor errors, TPM errors, or both.
[19:57] <nbusrone> minimec : yep something similar but the previous commend doesn't include file in a folders .stat -c "%y %s %n" * .How deep does it able to access the folders.
[19:59] <minimec> nbusrone: You don't have the recursive option with stat as far as I see with 'stat --help'
[20:03] <nbusrone> minimec : sorry I am new , what do you mean by recursive ?
[20:05] <mutedsigh> Can anyone tell me what the string "[[C^" corresponds to? Is it equivalent to Ctrl+C?
[20:06] <litheum> i am building a VM image to make available in a cloud marketplace, and i do apt-get upgrade before publishing it. but even after doing that, upon login i see "13 packages can be updated. 13 updates are security updates." and apt-get upgrade tells me "The following packages have been kept back: linux-cloud-tools-virtual linux-headers-generic linux-headers-virtual linux-image-extra-virtual
[20:06] <litheum> linux-image-generic linux-image-virtual linux-virtual". what's the right course of action?
[20:06] <oerheks_> mutedsigh, maybe this answer applies to you too https://askubuntu.com/questions/778875/tpm-error-6-when-booting-thinkpad
[20:07] <oerheks_> litheum, run update & full-upgrade, to install those
[20:07] <litheum> oerheks_: is that different than dist-upgrade?
[20:08] <oerheks_> litheum, no, dist-upgrade is replaced by full-upgrade iirc
[20:08] <litheum> hm no looks like they're the same. doesn't dist-upgrade/full-upgrade upgrade the entire system basically to a totally new version of the OS, rather than just upgrading to the newest packages for the current version?
[20:08] <oerheks_> still valid, you could run dist-upgrade too
[20:08] <mutedsigh> oerheks_, thanks but I've tried changing the BIOS settings and I'm afraid that I still have problems. The TPM is enabled and the screen just echoes "[[C^" over and over again. The xubuntu splash screen is flashing on and off in the background. I created a new bootable USB so I'll try changing the BIOS settings again. hopefully that'll work
[20:09] <minimec> nbusrone: it basically means 'include the content of the subfolders'. You can achieve 'recursive' with stat with a scipt like this... http://paste.ubuntu.com/25084101/
[20:09] <oerheks_> litheum, no, that is where do-release-upgrade is for, for the next version
[20:10] <litheum> so what is really the difference betwwn "upgrade" and "full-upgrade" then? why do upgrade isntead of full-upgrade? is it that full-upgrade is more dangerous because it can remove some packages unexpectedly?
[20:10] <minimec> nbusrone: Create a file with the content I pasted, then do 'chmod +x file-you-created' and run it with './file-you-created'
[20:11] <oerheks_> litheum, like dist-upgrade, full gives newer kernels and such
[20:11] <oerheks_> !dist-upgrade
[20:11] <oerheks_> it is a design choise
[20:11] <litheum> so do i *always* have to do full-upgrade to upgrade the kernel? it seems like that might not be the case, based on my recent experiences ... it seems like sometimes normal upgrade will upgrade the kernel and leave me with a "System reboot required" message
[20:14] <oerheks_> litheum, so you knew howto install those kept back updates..
[20:15] <litheum> oerheks_: well, reading around about this i learned that dist-upgrade would upgrade the things that were kept back, but i was seeing inconsistent behavior (as i said, it seemed like sometimes a standard "upgrade" would upgrade the kernel, and sometimes it wouldn't). and some of the things i read made it sound like dist-upgrade would be dangerous and was ill-advised (maybe those were old, wrong, etc.). so
[20:15] <litheum> i figured i'd ask in here to see if anyone had some up-to-date information about the situation.
[20:16] <litheum> now i'm trying to understand which thing i should do when preparing this VM to make sure all relevant updates are already done while also making sure i don't destabilize the image
[20:17] <minimec> nbusrone: Or redirect the output to a file like './stat-script test.sh > stat-result'. Be aware... That might give you a huge result file, depending how much file you have in the directory including subdirectories... I stopped the script here when I got a file size of more than 500MB... ;) Yeah
[20:19] <nbusrone> minimec : Still the same.It doesn't list out the files inside the directory
[20:21] <Ben64> nbusrone: what are you trying to accomplish
[20:22] <nbusrone> minimec : Actually I didn't explain more in it.There is a directory photo are save created folder in a folder.I arrange them but I wanted to compare whether the original unarrange vs arrange where both files are not missing and equal with the file size/date
[20:26] <nbusrone> minimec Ben64 : putting it simple as Folder name "2017"  with 80 folder inside the 2017 directory with label as 100CANON to 180CANON.After arrange to respective folder name to a different hard disk transfer , I wanted to compare the files size/date whether I miss out any files using just a simple Meld Diff viewer as a text files.
[20:33] <arminoplasm> hello. can I run an IRC (for example hexchat) at the same time that I use openconnect for browsing? I don't need to use VPN for IRC, just for browsing.
[20:33] <nbusrone> Ben64 minimec: Anyhow thank you for the help , I need to go and will drop by again tomorrow , hopefully to meet you again for help.Thanks :)
[20:33] <vbotka> nbusrone, FWIW, you might want to dryrun rsync in archive mode to see the diffs "rsync -a -n src/ dest/"
[20:52] <mike_papa> Hello. How can I purge all config of eric IDE? I tried using "apt purge", I did remove .eric6 manually, but every time I install eric again it starts with same config, even opening last project.
[20:52] <ericus> how would I move files from my ubuntu desktop to a headless ubuntu server in the easiest way?
[20:52] <ericus> scp?
[20:53] <badsektor> Mike i would look into .local and .config to find its folder and delete
[20:53] <badsektor> Ericus, you could use ftp
[20:54] <ericus> badsektor, I would like to install as few extras as possible
[20:54] <badsektor> Ericus, ftp comes by dedsu
[20:54] <ericus> sshfs?
[20:54] <badsektor> D
[20:54] <badsektor> Default
[20:55] <ericus> as in sftp?
[20:55] <badsektor> Ftp port 21 it is older than anything
[20:55] <blackflow> ericus: scp yes. or rsync. don't ftp.
[20:55] <wilbert> mike_papa: You could run the application through strace and see what files it open()s.  That would help you identify where it is pulling configuration from
[20:55] <mike_papa> badsektor, Thanks. it helped.
[20:55] <badsektor> Mike yw
[20:55] <mike_papa> wilbert, It was leftover in .config
[20:56] <mike_papa> anyway shouldn't "apt purge" remove it? Isn't it what this command should od?
[20:56] <mike_papa> do*
[20:58] <oerheks> mike_papa, good point, file a bugreport perhaps?
[20:59] <Jordan_U> mike_papa: purge only removes system level configuration files. It does not try to remove all configuration files from all users' home directories.
[21:00] <mike_papa> Jordan_U, Didn't know that. Short description is misleading then.
[21:01] <ericus> would it be possible to mount my /home on the headless server somehow?
[21:01] <Jordan_U> mike_papa: Which short description?
[21:01] <Jordan_U> ericus: sshfs
[21:02] <mike_papa> Jordan_U, apt-get --help: purge - Remove packages and config files
[21:03] <mike_papa> Jordan_U, it says "config files" so I assumed it means ALL config files.
[21:03] <mike_papa> word "purge" is kind of suggesting that.
[21:03] <oerheks> Jordan_U is correct, not on user level, like project files. i guess that files were dependant on a project in eric
[21:04] <oerheks> i think a profile is part of that
[21:05] <swift110> hey all
[21:06] <mike_papa> Ok. Anyway problem persists. Each time I save file Eric6 changes font in that window to non-mono spaced. Anyone know why?
[21:06] <mike_papa> All fonts in settings are set to monospaced.
[21:08] <badsektor> Mike i would ask in eric6 channel
[21:08] <mike_papa> badsektor, there is no eric6 channel asaik. :(
[21:09] <badsektor> What is it for?
[21:10] <mike_papa> badsektor, python + Qt5
[21:11] <badsektor> Mike i would ask in #python they probably use it
[21:20] <ericus> what would be the command to connect to another ubuntu server thats not using port 22 as ssh?
[21:21] <nacc> ericus: ssh -p <port>
[21:21] <nacc> ericus: `man ssh` is your friend :)
[21:21] <ericus> oh my bad, with scp for file transfers
[21:22] <nacc> ericus: `man scp` then... `scp -P <port>`
[21:24] <ericus> getting connection refused..
[21:25] <Zoohouse> Hello everyone.  I was playing around with making Makefiles today and I wrote this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25084522/ and it worked fine. I then got the idea to run sudo checkinstall which made a package called chapter2 worked and then I ran sudo dpkg -r chapter2 and now my /usr/local/sbin/ seems to be missing.
[21:25] <Zoohouse> Why was the dir removed?
[21:28] <msev-> https://github.com/MycroftAI/mycroft-core/pull/433#pullrequestreview-34986289 how do I find if how is the "remote" of the user called?
[21:29] <minimec> Zoohouse: Just do 'sudo mkdir /usr/local/sbin/'. The folder is usually empty anyway...
[21:30] <Zoohouse> minimec, really? I thought there were stuff in it...
[21:30] <minimec> Zoohouse: If /sbin was missing, you would be in trouble... ;)
[21:31] <minimec> Zoohouse: /usr/local is normally used for software that is not included in the official repositories.
[21:31] <oerheks> Zoohouse, minimec is correct, i see only a bunch of files an d a X11 folder
[21:32] <oerheks> so your  /usr/local/sbin/ is not a standard
[21:33] <Zoohouse> Thank goodness! Was freaking out over here...
[21:36] <FlavioZ> Hello all, I am using `add-apt-repository ppa:nginx/stable` to add nginx to Ubuntu box 14 and the install which works just fine. Then when I run `apt-get update` and `apt-get upgrade` and try to install nginx, it tries to install a different version and it fails because of dependencies, has anyone seen this error before? Any advice is more than welcome
[21:41] <minimec> FlavioZ: Well.. My advice is... If you don't really need a ppa, then don't use a ppa. Newer versions of software are indeed a 'nice to have', but nothing more. It looks like the ppa is not well configured for your version of ubuntu. So I would remove that ppa again.
[21:42] <FlavioZ> minimec: Thanks for replying, how can I really determine if the problem comes from ppa?
[21:44] <glitsj16> FlavioZ: Did you check whether you have other PPA's offering nginx? Running 'apt policy nginx' should give you a view of all versions of nginx apt is currently aware of.
[21:44] <minimec> FlavioZ: Because you have dependency confilicts while trying to install ngix. As you problably didn't have them before, my guess is that the ppa is the reason for that.
[21:46] <FlavioZ> glitsj16: I haven't checked it :). minimec Shouldn't ppa have the latest version thought? I mean after, it tries to install a newer version than ppa.
[21:46] <FlavioZ> Thank you guys for helping out
[21:48] <glitsj16> FlavioZ: that's not a valid assumption with PPA's, they might or they might not, pretty random if you don't check upfront
[21:57] <Richard_Cavell> Is the $HOME directory designed so that if I want to migrate to a different computer or different installation of Ubuntu or Linux, I can simply copy over the home directory and all my data will be good to go?
[21:57] <Richard_Cavell> Sorry I'm a newb
[21:57] <ca-on-adam> Richard_Cavell: sort of.
[21:58] <Richard_Cavell> ca-on-adam: Is there any good stuff that is typically located elsewhere?  I'm not talking about apps
[21:59] <minimec> Richard_Cavell: Exactly, but be aware of the fact that you have lots of hidden directories like '.config' and others. So just drag/drop the visible directories will not do. You either copy the whole '/youruser' directories or make the hidden ones visible with <ctrl>h in your file manager.
[22:00] <ca-on-adam> Richard_Cavell: Well I was thinking about the configuration of the user being in /etc/, but now that I think about it, if the destination system already has the user created with the same name, then it should work.
[22:00] <Richard_Cavell> minimec: Thanks for the Ctrl-H trick!
[22:00] <Richard_Cavell> ca-on-adam: I ran into problems when switching from OS X to Linux because I didn't have the same userid
[22:01] <ca-on-adam> Richard_Cavell: like if you move /home/bob into a system where bob is not a user, then that will require additional setup in /etc/
[22:01] <ca-on-adam> and yeah, the userid of the files might have to all be changed (including the hidden files)
[22:06] <minimec> Richard_Cavell: ca-on-adam: If copy the files as 'new user' the userid should be changed 'on the fly' though.
[22:34] <ubernets> on uefi computers what target should I choose for grub-install? MBR or efi partition?
[22:38] <minimec> ubernets: I am not a UEFI master (using always legacy mode), but I definitly think that 'efi' is the way to go.
[22:39] <ubernets> minimec, ok thanks
[22:43] <doge-doge> how do I disable multicasting in ubuntu mate? ufw logs are complaining about 224.0.0.x connections every 3 minutes. removed every "avahi" component in synaptic that won't blow up the entire system. any hints?
[22:43] <doge-doge> in arch I simply disable the daemon and ufw doesn't complain
[22:44] <doge-doge> i want network discovery completely disabled
[22:48] <oerheks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/761292/how-to-disable-avahi-daemon-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[22:49] <oerheks> 2x systemctl & edit servicefile
[22:49] <minimec> doge-doge: https://askubuntu.com/a/339709
[22:52] <doge-doge> does ubuntu have an avahi daemon script on network up?
[22:52] <doge-doge> that would explain the lack of scripts on arch
[22:52] <oerheks> depends what version of ubuntu
[22:53] <oerheks> init or systemd ...
[22:55] <doge-doge> ubuntu latest systemd
[22:55] <doge-doge> funny how this is left behind after the entire daemon is uninstalled...
[22:58] <oerheks> systemctl status avahi-daemon
[22:58] <oerheks> grinn
[22:59] <doge-doge> like I said, everything avahi has been removed
[23:00] <doge-doge> network discovery is the bane is ransomware spreading
[23:00] <doge-doge> s/is/of
[23:01] <kk4ewt> doge-doge,  only if you are using samba 1
[23:01] <doge-doge> ...except some of the libraries which which would blow up the system if removed
[23:01] <doge-doge> who knows what's in samba x
[23:01] <doge-doge> I'm not having ANY of it
[23:02] <glitsj16> doge-doge: so what is still left from avahi?
[23:02] <doge-doge> idk a couple of libs
[23:03] <blastis> is there a command line network tool to configure interfaces like nmtui is for RHEL?
[23:04] <oerheks> nmcli, for networkmanager.
[23:04] <nacc> blastis: nmtui is not a RHEL thing, it's a network-manager thing, exists on Ubuntu as well
[23:04] <blastis> nacc how do i install it? apt can't seem to find it
[23:04] <oerheks> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/wily/en/man5/nmcli-examples.5.html
[23:05] <nacc> blastis: do you have network manager installed?
[23:05] <blastis> oh is it called nmcli?
[23:05] <nacc> blastis: 'network-manager'
[23:05] <blastis> nacc: i would imagine so
[23:05] <nacc> blastis: what version of ubuntu?
[23:05] <blastis> 16.04
[23:05] <nacc> blastis: nmcli is a differnt UI than nmtui
[23:05] <blastis> no it's not installed
[23:05] <nacc> blastis: then don't know why you'd have nmtui :)
[23:05] <blastis> networkctl but that's nit
[23:05] <nacc> blastis: install network-manager if you want nmtui
[23:05] <blastis> ok gotchat
[23:05] <nacc> blastis: but n-m is also there by default in ubuntu
[23:05] <nacc> blastis: are you running a flavor?
[23:06] <oerheks> ohh tui is a gui ..
[23:06] <oerheks> :-D
[23:06] <blastis> no running in virtualbox ... from a vagrant setup
[23:06] <nacc> oerheks: tui = text user interface
[23:06] <blastis> vagrant init ubuntu/xenial
[23:06] <nacc> oerheks: basically, curses
[23:06] <nacc> blastis: ah, so not a desktop at all then, probably
[23:06] <nacc> blastis: or is it?
[23:06] <blastis> i just need to be able o configure the other two interaces i have on this box
[23:06] <blastis> no desktop
[23:06] <nacc> blastis: then network-manager is overkill
[23:07] <nacc> blastis: use /e/n/i on 16.04
[23:07] <nacc> blastis: as in, /etc/network/interfaces
[23:07] <blastis> ah ok
[23:07] <blastis> well ill uninstall nm then
[23:07] <jmg8766> i'm working on connecting to a bluetooth speaker through command line through the terminal on a stripped down version of 14.04, i've gotten to a point where hcitool dev shows my usb bluetooth device, but bt-device -l doesn't
[23:07] <blastis> PURGE
[23:08] <blastis> hmm nacc interfaces is not so intuitive
[23:08] <nacc> blastis: man interfaces
[23:08] <nacc> blastis: if you want a GUI to do things, don't use a server :-P
[23:09] <blastis> i dont care either way
[23:09] <blastis> just need some stuff done. im not a purist.
[23:10] <blastis> so how do i know what the interface names are for my interfaces file?
[23:10] <blastis> i know they are installed -- they were added through the VBox settings
[23:11] <nacc> blastis: look at `ip a` output to see the interfaces
[23:12] <blastis> thanks, it's only showing 2 nacc (lo and enp0s3)
[23:12] <nacc> blastis: does dmesg indicate more were found?
[23:12] <blastis> oh snap... hmm i installed them with settings ... but they're not there any more
[23:13] <blastis> probably because of vagrant
[23:13] <blastis> seems to keep its own configs even if you manage it through vbox
[23:13] <blastis> weird.
[23:14] <nacc> blastis: yeah, i'm not entirely sure why you've combined vbox and vagrant. I have no experience with either, sorry
[23:15] <blastis> no worries. thanks for the help. it was invaluable.
[23:15] <blastis> YEAH
[23:16] <nacc> blastis: gl!
[23:17] <blastis> WERD
[23:17] <oerheks> i thik your vagrant admin inlog should grant such vbox interface
[23:17] <blastis> why it should. you're right.
[23:20] <doge-doge> oh wow, look what I found in /etc/network/if-up.d -- more avahi crap!
[23:23] <jmg8766> i'm working on connecting to a bluetooth speaker through command line through the terminal on a stripped down version of 14.04, i've gotten to a point where hcitool dev shows my usb bluetooth device, but bt-device -l doesn't
[23:32] <Threadnaught> on 16.04, every so often (usually on boot/when I'm using apt) I'll get a whole load of messages in the form 'libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-config.c:635 kmod_config_parse: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf line 30: ignoring bad line starting with 'options''. How can I fix it and could it have anything to do with the fact that aux and internal speakers (but not bluetooth audio, usb audio or hdmi audio) don't work under ubuntu on m
[23:36] <minimec> Threadnaught: In case you did not modify alsa-base.conf, line 30 of that file would be 'options snd-aTtiixp-modem index=-2'. Maybe just try to put a '#' in front of that line and reboot.
[23:36] <glitsj16> doge-doge: that's why I asked earlier what exactly was still installed avahi related.. libs wouldn't have anything in /etc .. did you remove stuff manually or via apt/dpkg? Btw, you can track what installed package a file belongs to with dpkg -S (or dlocate -S)
[23:39] <Threadnaught> minimec: sorry, I wasn't clear it is saying this for every line that starts with 'options'
[23:39] <Threadnaught> is there some way to regenerate the file or something?
[23:41] <doge-doge> @glitsj16, apt "complete remove" and that cleaned up the scripts in /etc/ but on another reboot the same 224 errors appeared so I gave up
[23:42] <doge-doge> my bet is more meddling with #nm mods
[23:43] <doge-doge> it's pretty much impossible to determine the app from ufw since "kernel" is only listed
[23:44] <andai> I want some process to start at boot and to be restarted if they crash. I was using cron for that but told it was a bad practice and to use systemd for that. After some reading it seems I should be using systemd user services, and separate users for each service.
[23:44] <andai> My intuition is that not many people actually do that, so I came here to check :)
[23:45] <setre> does anyone know why public key authentication may stop working on my 16.04 server?
[23:45] <minimec> Threadnaught: The file is standard on every installation and basically just applies some standard configuration for known (and working) sound devices. You should not see these kind of errors. If you did not do some changes to this file, I see no reason for these kind of errors. Mine (16.04 too) would look like this... http://paste.ubuntu.com/25085443/
[23:45] <setre> with openssh that
[23:47] <glitsj16> doge-doge: I'm not an expert on avahi (and have no ambitions to ever becoming one), but you mentioned ufw logging multicast at a steady 3 min interval, correct? That smells more like CUPS trying to reach a network printer OR pulseaudio if you have pulseaudio-module-zeroconf installed.. difficult to debug
[23:48] <doge-doge> I suspect cups as well, I removed that as well, but not "completely remove" lol
[23:48] <doge-doge> these scripts causing trouble
[23:48] <Threadnaught> minimec: I have no memory of modifying it (who knows though), this problem could be related to a problem where anything which routes sound through the internal ADCs (aux/internal speakers) doesn't work (this problem has persisted between clean installs of different versions of ubuntu/ubuntu derivatives)
[23:48] <courrier> I'd like to buy a Linux tablet. Aquaris M10 looks great on Ubuntu Touch for instance
[23:48] <courrier> However is it advisable to buy such tablet now Ubuntu Touch has been discontinued from Canonical? Is the community continuing to maintain software?
[23:48] <courrier> Have you heared about any other Linux tablet? (On which we can be root)
[23:49] <glitsj16> doge-doge: iirc it's cups-browsed that ties into avahi
[23:49] <doge-doge> printer discovery right
[23:49] <glitsj16> yes
[23:49] <doge-doge> *shakes head*
[23:50] <doge-doge> another source of maleware printer drivers too
[23:50] <minimec> Threadnaught: Really strange, because these are all driver options, and if a driver isn't present, they are just ignored.
[23:50] <oerheks> doge-doge, yes, like in this manual, /lib/systemd/system/cups-browsed.service > https://askubuntu.com/questions/761292/how-to-disable-avahi-daemon-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[23:51] <minimec> Threadnaught: ...meaning if the device is not present, the driver is not loaded and the options are not applied.
[23:52] <Threadnaught> minimec: so it should just skip over the line rather than tell me about the error?
[23:52] <glitsj16> doge-doge: you won't hear me disagree on that heh.. what I don't get is why these files are still in /etc/network if you purged avahi-daemon.. wait, you used 'apt purge' or 'apt-remove' to uninstall avahi packages?
[23:53] <doge-doge> yeah I just did and they finally were removed. but the logs still want 224
[23:54] <doge-doge> purge = completely remove
[23:54] <glitsj16> okay, I didn't get that before.. can't think of much else though, sorry
[23:54] <doge-doge> next time I turn on the machine I'll purge every cup-related item as well since I don't need printing
[23:55] <glitsj16> can't hurt to try that
[23:55] <doge-doge> there's a couple libs were you can also blow up the DE if you go to far
[23:55] <doge-doge> in cups as well
[23:56] <Threadnaught> minimec: wait would something like "options bt87x" be a malformed line because it doesn't specify any options?
[23:56] <minimec> Threadnaught: If the file has any typing error in it, you might get these errors. That's why I posted the content of my file. Maybe just copy/paste (backup) the content of your file outside of /etc/modprobe.d and use the content of the paste I posted before. Just for a try. It is importent to have the backup of your file outside of /etc/modprobe.d, because otherwise it might still taken in to account,
[23:56] <minimec> although giving it a name like alsa-base.bck should work.