[04:00] <emma> I have the wpa password but i dont even know where to put it because networkmanaer does nothing.
[04:00] <whompapotamus> LinuxMercedes: should still be able to connect to it = bluetooth is nice that way (do you have bluez-utils)?
[04:00] <dsdeiz> +1 with rww
[04:01] <emma> rww maybe i should take a shot at upgrading ubuntu then. Oh crap I can't because that requires the internet :(
[04:01] <LinuxMercedes> whompapotamus: I have bluez-utils, yes
[04:01] <emma> ^not sarcasm, i really did realize that midsentence.
[04:01] <whompapotamus> LinuxMercedes: try to restart it: sudo /etc/init.d/bluez-utils restart
[04:01] <Vovk> http://www.ghacks.net/2009/04/14/connect-to-a-wireless-network-via-command-line/
[04:01] <rww> emma: You could get connected via /etc/network/interfaces with the help of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202834
[04:02] <Vovk> emma, the url i just posted is generic linux connecting to a wireless network via command line
[04:02] <rww> emma: there are a bunch of examples on that post that I've found useful in the past.
[04:02] <Fohn> emma: another option is using whatever computer you are using currently to burn a fancy new 9.10 cd
[04:02] <IdleOne> Fohn: 9.10 is alpha
[04:02] <rww> Fohn: 1) I'm hoping you meant 9.04 and not 9.10, 2) she'd need the .iso to do that, which she presumably doesn't have.
[04:02] <LinuxMercedes> whompapotamus: It says bluez-utils doesn't exist...let me do an inquiry here
[04:03] <Fohn> :D
[04:03] <Fohn> 9.04**
[04:03] <whompapotamus> LinuxMercedes: sudo apt-get install bluez-utils
[04:03] <kudi> i have sonata connected to mpd but i cant update my library
[04:03] <Fohn> rww: I am aware of that, however if she is on a computer which is networked right now, she could acquire the .iso.
[04:04] <rww> Fohn: oh, gotcha :)
[04:04] <WilliamC2> Metacity isn't autoloading
[04:04] <WilliamC2> How do I fix that?
[04:05] <LinuxMercedes> whompapotamus: yeah, but Synaptic reports that it's installed
[04:05] <baltadt> ok why is it that with linux mint i could put in a dvd and it would play no problem but ubuntu has a fit?
[04:05] <whompapotamus> try restarting bluetooth: sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart
[04:05] <rww> baltadt: because Ubuntu doesn't ship with a DVD decryption library for legal reasons.
[04:05] <fccf> !codecs | baltadt
[04:05] <rww> baltadt: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Installing%20libdvdcss
[04:06] <Rohit> Hello
[04:06] <Guest78173> Can i install blackberry pearl 8110 driver on ubuntu
[04:06] <fccf> !hi | Guest78173
[04:06] <whompapotamus> LinuxMercedes: then, do this again   sudo hidd --connect 00:0D:B5:65:46:B0
[04:06] <orospakr> Hey, how does one restore packages that have been replaced by a PPA/third party repo to the version in the official ubuntu repository?
[04:07] <LinuxMercedes> whompapotamus: one sec
[04:07] <orospakr> removing and reinstalling isn't much of an option, since these particular ones would require removing... pretty much everything.
[04:07] <WilliamC2> How do you setup what windows manager is loaded by default?
[04:07] <fccf> Guest78173: hey, check out this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190938
[04:08] <danbhfive> orospakr: can't you use apt-get reinstall?
[04:08] <rww> orospakr: You could try Package -> Force Version in Synaptic Package Manager, but it's a pain sometimes
[04:08] <whompapotamus> LinuxMercedes: i know that it is not appearing, but it sounds like the device is connected - there just isn't a protocol to send and receive data so it doesn't show up in the list - what are you trying to do?
[04:08] <gwildor> WilliamC2, if you use gdm, pick it from the session area, when you log in, it will ask if you want to make it default
[04:08] <kudi> problem opening log file "/var/lib/mpd/.mpd/mpd.log" (config line 11) for writing
[04:08] <kudi> (i specified the log file to go to ~, where is mpd getting its info?)
[04:08] <coz_> WilliamC2,  which window manager do you want for default?
[04:08] <WilliamC2> Metacity
[04:08] <WilliamC2> It seems to load nothing right now
[04:08] <WilliamC2> No clue what changed
[04:08] <LinuxMercedes> whompapotamus: well, it's a bluetooth GPS. I have no clue how to tell if it's working at the moment
[04:08] <coz_> WilliamC2,   you can uninstall compiz-manager
[04:09] <coz_> WilliamC2,   you have two onboard window managers   compiz and metacity
[04:09] <LinuxMercedes> whompapotamus: I figured I'd start by making sure it connected, then see if I can get it to work with kismet
[04:09] <WilliamC2> Can compiz give me back my borders?
[04:09] <greyz`> Hi, I'm using Gparted and am tring to get a flashdrive formateed as Fat32, how do I do this? All I see as a option is: msdos, aix, amiga, bsd, dvh, gpt, mac, pc98, sun, and loop.
[04:10] <LinuxMercedes> whompapotamus: if you have a better way for me to do this, I'm all ears
[04:10] <rww> greyz`: those are partition table types, not filesystem types, which means you're clicking "New" on the wrong thing (you want msdos, btw)
[04:10] <greyz`> rww: ok, so I should click "New", alright thank you rww! :D
[04:10] <whompapotamus> kismet huh - packet sniffing via GPS bluetooth - i am confused ;)
[04:11] <LinuxMercedes> whompapotamus: no, logging gps coordinates of wifi networks =]
[04:11] <orospakr> danbhfive, nope, that just wants to put the same version right back.
[04:11] <orospakr> rww, "force version" greyed out. :/
[04:11] <danbhfive> orospakr: well, you gota remove the ppa, and run sudo apt-get clean first
[04:12] <orospakr> danbhfive, tried it with the ppa enabled and disabled (with apt-get update, obviously), same effect.
[04:12] <danbhfive> orospakr: did you sudo apt-get clean?
[04:12] <orospakr> well, without the ppa it just complains that the current package version is not redownloadable ;)
[04:12] <jmalicki> I have two seemingly identically configured ubuntu machines, one upgraded to jaunty, one fresh install.  on the upgrade, network ifs don't come up because /var/run/network is missing (/var/run is tmpfs)
[04:12] <jmalicki> the entire /etc/network tree is identical
[04:13] <jmalicki> anyone have a clue what to look for, or what might be creating it on the fresh install?
[04:13] <whompapotamus> LinuxMercedes: gotcha~ i have given it my best to get you connected - tell you the truth - no idea why it is not showing up - i just ran though those commands with my wireless cellphone headset - and i am talking threw my speaker right now as a test
[04:13] <orospakr> danbhfive, yeah, no effect.
[04:13] <bbbb> can someone help me with this coversion proble
[04:13] <danbhfive> orospakr: what package is this?
[04:13] <bbbb> for my chem class
[04:13] <LinuxMercedes> whompapotamus: ok, thanks! It's probably not the connection, but that I haven't figured out how to test my gps
[04:13] <goddard__> what ports does rhytmbox use?
[04:14] <orospakr> danbhfive, libxcb-atom1 (and a host of related ones), that was included in an ppa with a build of awesome wm.  I decided I didn't want awesome wm, and as such don't see a need for the rebuilt dependency packages.
[04:14] <orospakr> I figure I ought to be running the original libxcb packages out of jaunty's repo, rather than letting these ones hang around.
[04:15] <whompapotamus> LinuxMercedes: good luck - i am here from time to time - let me know how you make out... (i.e. solution) - i am always looking to learn a little myself - ttyl
[04:15] <Xoop> Anyone here use pork?
[04:15] <deadinplastic> #bash
[04:15] <LinuxMercedes> whompapotamus: ok, for sure. Thanks for the tips!
[04:15] <whompapotamus> LinuxMercedes: np
[04:15] <xikteny> LinuxMercedes: http://gpsd.berlios.de/bt.html has some info on BT GPSs with gpsd
[04:16] <LinuxMercedes> xikteny: awesome
[04:16] <danbhfive> orospakr: hmm, well, you could always use dpkg --remove --force-depends    , but at your own risk
[04:17] <linuxninja> Is there an RFC for SSL?
[04:18] <whompapotamus> LinuxMercedes: may want to check this out... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1497680
[04:18] <losher> jmalicki: I'm no expert, but a bunch of stuff won't start if /var/run isn't present. Looks like /var/run is setup by /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh, at least on my hardy system. If that's wrong, who knows what else is messed up in your upgrade. I'd reinstall from scratch if I were you...
[04:19] <Darklor> Anybody home
[04:19] <IdleOne> !anybody
[04:20] <Darklor> !thanks
[04:20] <losher> Xoop: I'd never even heard of it. I had to google it. That tells me it's not real popular...
[04:20] <orospakr> danbhfive, oh well, thanks. :)
[04:20] <Xoop> sudo apt-get install pork
[04:20] <LinuxMercedes> hmm...modprobe bluez reports that it doesn't exist
[04:20] <Xoop> Its an irc client
[04:20] <IdleOne> Xoop: what is the issue?
[04:21] <dsdeiz> ooh, pork, cool
[04:21] <Xoop> lol
[04:21] <Darklor> IdleOne : What does this package do , Binutils ,
[04:21] <bucky> LinuxMercedes,  bluez is a kernel module?
[04:21] <DrRighteous> can someone tell me how in KVM to map a secondary NIC I have in my host directly to the virtual machine? its a high throughput application, and I'd love it to have exclusive direct access if possible .
[04:21] <IdleOne> !info binutils
[04:21] <albech> i cannot make sound work in 9.04 on my acer. is there a way to remove the entire sound system and reinstall it??
[04:21] <LinuxMercedes> bucky: yeah, I think I'm going to restart and see if it loads right
[04:21] <losher> Xoop: according to the web page, it's *modelled* after an IRC client, but it's actually an AOL nstant messenger client, not an irc client...
[04:22] <Xoop> Works as both
[04:22] <bucky> LinuxMercedes, modinfo bluez
[04:22] <Xoop> Good to have if you ssh a lot
[04:22] <LinuxMercedes> bucky: could not find module bluez
[04:23] <Darklor> IdleOne : it is not installed is it
[04:23] <Darklor> I mean by default
[04:23] <bucky> LinuxMercedes, i've never heard of a kernel driver named bluez
[04:23] <losher> Xoop: so did you have a question, or were you just feeling lonely?
[04:23] <Jester_> I have a question. I had a dual boot vista/ubuntu installation that i wanted to ditch vista from. I backed up my ubuntu via partimage, reformatted the drive, and restored it via partimage, and now grub wont load properly. I've tried editing the menu.lst, but with the uuid lines i'm not really sure what to do. Any ideas?
[04:24] <IdleOne> Darklor: no it isnt
[04:24] <Xoop> losher, why would you like to cuddle?
[04:24] <LinuxMercedes> bucky, according to http://gpsd.berlios.de/bt.html it exists
[04:24] <rww> Jester_: they need to match the output of "sudo blkid"
[04:24] <IdleOne> Darklor: sudo apt-get install binutils
[04:24] <losher> Xoop: definitely not...
[04:24] <rww> !uuid
[04:24] <Darklor> IdleOne : Thanks
[04:24] <charles_> Can someone help me with samba. I've done it before, but this time around it isn't working. I can see my ubuntu box on my xbmc and my windows(ew) pc, but it says I don't have permission. ( Btw I'm kind of new to linux ) Could you pm me please if you have time
[04:24] <Jester_> Thanks. I'll try that.
[04:24] <LinuxMercedes> bucky, also l2cap and rfconn don't work
[04:25] <ozomandi> hi room. I'm running 8.04 LiveCD right now on parents' windows XP computer. They have what looks like a Windows graphics driver problem that renders the computer unusable. The machine works fine on LiveCD. I ran ntfsfix in order to mount the hard drive to the Ubuntu Live CD environment. Is there a way to view windows system logs in ubuntu? I'm trying to determine what's fragging them in Windows
[04:25] <losher> Jester_: the uuids have to match for the root partition indicated in menu.lst, and also in /etc/fstab if you used them there...
[04:25] <Kleemajo> Hi everyone. I just tried to resize my ubuntu partition from a live cd with gparted and something weird happened. It appeared to resize correctly, but then failed after copying all the information over giving me an error after trying "e2fsck /dev/sda3" saying "run e2fsck -f /dev/sda3 first". This stopped gparted and i tried booting into ubuntu (which I'm on now) and everything is fine except that my ubuntu installation is taking up 10 gb more t
[04:25] <Loafers> NVIDIA > ATI with respect to Linux Driver support?
[04:26] <nhasian> ozomandi, you need to backup their data, wipe the drive and do a fresh install of windows :)
[04:26] <rww> Loafers: not necessarily. Some cards work fine, some don't, from both manufacturers.
[04:26] <jmalicki> losher: /var/run is there. /var/run/network is not.
[04:26] <ozomandi> Nhasian... that's what i figured. trying to avoid doing the labor-intensive process. plus... their XP discs are buried in the garage
[04:26] <Blizzerand> Kleemajo : Run that command it asked from the terminal
[04:26] <Loafers> rww, Ok
[04:27] <LinuxMercedes> bucky: I'm going to restart and see if that helps; from what I hear it actually may
[04:27] <nhasian> ozomandi, no no.  you always throw those discs out.  you need to use the latest drivers from the manufacturer's website.  not the drivers on the discs they came with.
[04:27] <Blizzerand> Kleemajo : Thats an error and to correct it you can do that
[04:28] <moot> Alright. How can I make the ping command return a True/False sorta value based on whether a target responds to ping or not.
[04:28] <ozomandi> nhasian... I mean their XP operating system discs are lost. I can't wipe windoze until I find the XP os discs. Then I'll begin getting drivers from the manufacturers' websites. Or, I'll convince them to use ubuntu
[04:28] <joejc> anyone here know anything about linux home automation?
[04:28] <losher> jmalicki: /etc/init.d/loopback in my release will create /var/run/network if it doesn't exist. Try running it?
[04:28] <jmalicki> losher: that went away in jaunty.
[04:29] <Fragsworth> what apt package should I install for all the latex tools
[04:29] <Blizzerand> Kleemajo : You still there
[04:29] <jmalicki> losher: it seems the fresh install has some other weird way of doing it that the upgrade isn't getting.....
[04:29] <jmalicki> Fragworth: try texlive
[04:29] <losher> jmalicki: you're on your own then dude, sorry...
[04:29] <jmalicki> losher: cool, thanks for the help
[04:29] <RichN> I've done some home automation (not Linux, though)
[04:29] <Fragsworth> jmalicki: texlive-latex-base ?
[04:29] <nhasian> ozomandi, well you can order a replacement disc from MS for $30.  the s/n should be on the back or side of the computer.
[04:29] <jmalicki> fragsworth: sounds good :)
[04:29] <Fragsworth> jmalicki: cool, thanks
[04:29] <jmalicki> fragsworth: you may need more.
[04:30] <nhasian> ozomandi, of course my preferred solution is to install the latest ubuntu
[04:30] <ozomandi> nhasian... thanks for confirming my fears. I'm down to the garage to dig around. you've been most helpful
[04:30] <losher> jmalicki: does egrep '/var/run/network' /etc/init.d/* show anything interesting?
[04:31] <phix> joejc: I don't
[04:31] <nhasian> ozomandi, i'm pretty convinced that there is special code in windows that makes your computer go slower as time goes on :)
[04:31] <Jester_> Ok, the menu.lst was fine, but the swap space uuid in fstab was off. The root uuid in fstab was fine. would that still throw out error 22?
[04:31] <legend2440> looking at config-2.6.28-15-generic i see that CONFIG_HZ=250 and that # CONFIG_HZ_1000 is not set. any benefit to recompiling  with CONFIG_HZ_1000 enabled?
[04:31] <RichN> joejc: did you have a question about Linux home automation?
[04:31] <joejc> yes
[04:31] <whompapotamus> nhasian: too funny!
[04:31] <scribebox> whats the preferred irc bnc for ubuntu, that supports apt and has a wide variety of users/scripts
[04:32] <Kleemajo> Hey sorry my internet cut out. Did my question get sent (was at xx:25:30)
[04:32] <RichN> joejc: fire away...
[04:32] <joejc> whats the best way to control my house with linux?
[04:32] <nhasian> scribebox, the preferred irc client?  most people use xchat
[04:32] <quizme> Package libltdl3 is not installed  <---- but libltdl7 is installed already
[04:32] <losher> Jester_: if you reformatted and created new partitions, the uuids should change. So I'm suspicious of the root uuid not needing to be updated. Especially if it's still not working...
[04:33] <scribebox> nhasian: no, irc bouncer, its an irc proxy tool, like psybnc etc..
[04:33] <fccf1> Kleemajo: I don't think we got all of it ...  says is taking up more t ..... what's the rest
[04:33] <ctmjr> !linuxmce | joejc
[04:33] <Kleemajo> (08:25:32 PM) Kleemajo: Hi everyone. I just tried to resize my ubuntu partition from a live cd with gparted and something weird happened. It appeared to resize correctly, but then failed after copying all the information over giving me an error after trying "e2fsck /dev/sda3" saying "run e2fsck -f /dev/sda3 first". This stopped gparted and i tried booting into ubuntu (which I'm on now) and everything is fine except that my ubuntu installation i
[04:34] <Ecto> hello everybody!  can anyone help.. when i log in, my 9.04 system automattically mounts and puts on the desktop one of my partitions on the same disk as my / and /home folder partitions.  how do i stop it from mounting/putting it on the desktop everytime i log in ?
[04:34] <joejc> i dont need software i need hardware
[04:34] <ctmjr> joejc: well that was no help
[04:34] <RichN> joejc: I've used X-10 modules to do it. I bought a CM11a module from Smarthome.com. I control it using "heyu", an open-source program.
[04:34] <Vovk> Ecto, do you know which partition it is? :)
[04:34] <joejc> how does the computer part connect to the other x10 stuff?
[04:34] <Kleemajo> if it still got cut, here is the last sentence: This stopped gparted and i tried booting into ubuntu (which I'm on now) and everything is fine except that my ubuntu installation is taking up 10 gb more than it did before the partition. Any idea what happened?
[04:34] <Ecto> vovk: yes
[04:35] <Vovk> Ecto, if so, open up /etc/fstab and delete the line with that partition name
[04:35] <nhasian> Ecto, gconf-editor
[04:35] <Ecto> vovk: it's not in fstab :(
[04:35] <Ecto> nhasian: will try
[04:35] <Vovk> nhandler, i thought gconf-editor only controls if its on the desktop or not, not if it's auto mounted
[04:35] <RichN> I'm not very impressed with X-10, though. Some modules work great and some have a hard time. Your house wiring plays a big role (since X-10 uses the power lines for the network.)
[04:35] <Vovk> nhasian, look above :P stupid auto complete
[04:35] <rww> Vovk: automounting of stuff that isn't in fstab is done by a GNOME program, and is probably configurable through gconf-editor
[04:36] <Ecto> nhasian: any clues on which section in gconf-editor ?
[04:36] <Vovk> rww, why did they separate that?! -_-
[04:36] <fccf1> Kleemajo: run df ... to see what the exact amount is
[04:36] <RichN> joejc: I was hoping the ZigBee stuff would be cheaper and work better. I haven't bought any ZigBee stuff yet, because it's pretty pricy.
[04:36] <nhasian> Ecto, im looking through it now, i think there was an option to enable/disable disk drives
[04:36] <Fohn> albech: sudo apt-get --purge remove alsa-base alsa-utils linux-sound-base
[04:37] <rww> Vovk: because putting USB flash drives into fstab is annoying
[04:37] <Fohn> albech: That is, if you're still here :D.
[04:37] <rww> Vovk: (amongst other reasons)
[04:37] <cambo> is it possible to mount an nfs share with the fstab without  the destination directiory?
[04:37] <joejc> RichN,  so x10 is the best way to go atleast as far as price?
[04:37] <Vovk> rww, true... but the entire point of /etc is to have centralized configs. ah well...
[04:37] <cambo> eg mount nfs share for /home/user with only /home existing?
[04:37] <KnightWo> o..so
[04:37] <Fohn> albech: Aftewards, 'sudo apt-get install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils'
[04:38] <rww> Vovk: right, and you don't want centralized configs for user-mounted drives. I think the same program also does stuff like mounting over ssh, which also probably doesn't belong in fstab.
[04:38] <Ecto> vovk: my guess is to make it more user friendly.
[04:38] <Fohn> D'OH
[04:38] <RichN> joejc: I think so. Smarthome.com has occasional deals where you can buy lamp and appliance modules for under $10, which is where they should be all the time.
[04:38] <Fohn> note to self: Check who's online before responding to old queries...
[04:38] <cambo> lol
[04:38] <nhasian> Ecto, launch gconf-editor, or hit Applications / System Tools / Configuration Editor
[04:38] <RichN> joejc: the CM11a module is kinda steep, though (I think ~$60). It connects to your 9-pin serial port.
[04:39] <nhasian> Ecto, go to gconf apps/nautilus/desktop/ then untick the volumes_visible checkbox
[04:39] <Vovk> Ecto, user friendly means different things to different people. rww, i don't see a reason why centralized configs are bad for user mounted drives, if there was an option in fstab to autodetect the file system, then you could easily add as many entries as you had ports and you'd be fine
[04:39] <Kleemajo> fccf1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/266980/ It doesn't look like it is acknowledging the partition size (the partition is 25 GB now)
[04:39] <joejc> i google it and fould this on the page http://www.smarthome.com/1132CU/PowerLinc-Controller-USB-Based-Home-Automation-Device/p.aspx    any reason not to go usb?
[04:39] <losher> cambo: not really. You need a valid directory as a mount point. The main exception being if you use the automounter, which will automatically create mount points for you. Is it a problem doing mkdir /home/user before you mount?
[04:39] <Vovk> rww, and if you ARE mounting over ssh, then you are technical enough to know how to edit a simple text config file ;)
[04:40] <Fohn> one would hope
[04:40] <Kleemajo> my partition used to be 12 GB or whatever is listed under df
[04:40] <Vovk> one would hope
[04:40] <Ecto> nhasian: will that stop them being visible on the desktop if i mount them manually ? i dont want that... i just want to stop the automounting one..
[04:41] <RichN> The heyu program works with the serial port version. I don't think it does USB. Maybe you have other software already?
[04:41] <losher> RichN: joejc: I did the same when they went on sale years ago (I think they're discontinued now). Mine plugged into a serial port. Some of the newer mobos don't even come with serial ports any more...
[04:41] <fccf1> Kleemajo: what do you have as /dev/sda1&2
[04:41] <fccf1> Kleemajo: gparted will show you
[04:42] <RHorse> should I try it? or will it conflict with firefox?
[04:42] <RichN> Yup. http://www.smarthome.com/1140/X10-Activehome-CM11A-Computer-Interface-CM11A/p.aspx is discontinued.
[04:42] <Ecto> nhasian: in apps/nautilis/prefences there is an automount flag.  i wonder what config file it uses...
[04:43] <Kleemajo> /dev/sda1 is an empty ntfs partition. /dev/sda2 is a Mac partition. Here is an fdisk -l printout: http://paste.ubuntu.com/266984/
[04:43] <histo> Quakelive for linux finally thank god
[04:43] <joejc> its on ebay for 10 bucks
[04:44] <RichN> joejc: A friend of mine bought the USB module for his Macintosh. Don't know if it's the same you posted.
[04:44] <RHorse> firecrotch nah, man. I'm behind the times!
[04:44] <Ecto> nhasian: it's looking like 12 of one and half a dozen of the other at the moment.
[04:44] <fccf1> Kleemajo: what you see in df below /dev/sda3 is the rest of the filesystem / which is created at boot time
[04:45] <gce> richn joejc the usb model has lousy support under linux
[04:45] <cambo> @losher  I have about 16 servers, I was using the automounter at the /home level, but it makes all the existing /home/vpopmail etc disappear
[04:45] <RHorse> firecrotch I don't miss the newer v. at all.
[04:46] <RichN> gce: rats. I was hoping it had one of those USB-serial bridge chips. I was downloading their docs...
[04:46] <RHorse> but I would like to test Shiretoko
[04:46] <Ecto> nhasian: ok thanks for the help.. i'll just go with the volumes_visible checkbox.  thanks again.
[04:46] <charles_> Could someone please help me with samba. I've been googling for the passed 2hrs now. It's most likely something easy, but I'm just not that knowledgeable at ubuntu.
[04:47] <test34> charles_: just ask
[04:47] <DrRighteous> can someone tell me how in KVM to map a secondary NIC I have in my host directly to the virtual machine? its a high throughput application, and I'd love it to have exclusive direct access if possible . anyone?
[04:47] <Kleemajo> fccf1: ok, so why is 14 GB of hard drive space being allocated to these other areas?
[04:47] <RichN> joejc: if you can get the CM11 in decent condition, it'd be worth it (esp at $10!). The heyu program can take a schedule file (that you write) and compile into macros and load it in the CM11 so that your computer doesn't have to be on.
[04:48] <Major_Quacks> charles_: Just ask, if someone knows they will answer, and don't pester the channel if no one does
[04:48] <Fohn> !ask | charles_
[04:48] <phix> charles_: what's wrong?
[04:48] <losher> cambo: yes, it will make all existing /home/* disappear. I'm not sure what you're trying to do, but you don't have to automount into /home. You can automount into another directory e.g. /automount and place permanent symbolic links from /home/user1 to /automount/user1. Will that help?
[04:48] <joejc> RichiH, my only problem is that im not sure i can use it
[04:48] <joejc> RichN, *
[04:49] <gce> richn and joec a good website is http://www.linuxha.com/   www.x10.com used to have cma11 on it
[04:49] <cambo> @losher, I am trying to map a nfs drive for a user that logs into the server.  I dont want to have to create mount points on each server
[04:49] <cambo> i have 16 servers.
[04:49] <charles_> Can someone help me with samba. I've done it before, but this time around it isn't working. I can see my ubuntu box on my xbmc and my windows(ew) pc, but it says I don't have permission. ( Btw I'm kind of new to linux ) Could you pm me please if you have time
[04:49] <cambo> just want to use the fstab to automount at login for each user
[04:50] <RichN> gce: thanks for the link, joejc: why don't you think you can use it?
[04:50] <cambo> I guess that automount is my only option right?
[04:50] <joejc> might not have the right plug
[04:50] <phix> cambo: use automount? or setup some pam module to mount it when they log in?
[04:50] <charles_> I try to follow all the guides, but still nothing
[04:50] <RichN> joejc: you have 25-pin serial?
[04:50] <phix> fstab is static, it doesn't have automounted stuff in it
[04:51] <cambo> can I use automount to mount /home/user and keep anything that is existing in /home  I have /home/vpopmail for example
[04:51] <joejc> what color would it be?
[04:51] <charles_> I do get this when I try smbclient -U guest -L samba  might not have permission
[04:51] <phix> charles_: have you created a share for it to log in as?
[04:51] <charles_> Yes
[04:51] <fccf1> Kleemajo: dev is hardware varrun and varlock each reserve 2.5 gigs to do what it has to do when it is running, another reason might include the lack of swap space on your system
[04:51] <charles_> I did phix
[04:51] <phix> charles_: have you created an account to log in as ?
[04:51] <phix> charles_: you used smbpasswd to add in a samba account for it too?
[04:51] <charles_> I do get this when I try smbclient -U guest -L samba  Error NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME ( correction )
[04:51] <Scunizi> charles_: are they window servers?  if so you might need to use samba and put the computer in the domain
[04:51] <phix> charles_: is your computer named samba?
[04:52] <joejc> RichN, is it pink?
[04:52] <gce> joejc: http://www.x10.com/promotions/hc60rx_vt_kit.html
[04:52] <charles_> I'm ubuntu isn't named samba.
[04:52] <linuxguy20091> Hey guys I just got a new Dell Inspiron Mini today and I set my desktop PC to allow remote desktop viewing. I wanted to monitor its downloads from my new netbook from downstairs and then shut it down remotely etc.  Desktop PC says its only accessable from the LAN only. That would work but when I try the <IP_ADDRESS> that it shows, from my newbook, I get a black screen only. Any ideas?
[04:52] <phix> charles_: so why are you trying to list shares on a computer named samba for?
[04:52] <linuxguy20091> The wireless works fine for internet access if thats in question.
[04:53] <charles_> scunizi they are window xp boxs and xbmc is a media player
[04:53] <phix> charles_: smbclient -U guest -L YOURCOMPUTERNAME
[04:53] <phix> or ip address
[04:53] <linuxguy20091> Im not sure why vinagre woudnt allow web access also.
[04:54] <joejc> x10 needs a better web designer
[04:54] <RichN> joejc: The CM11a comes with a cable. One end looks like a phone jack, the other is a 9-pin serial port connector. Recent computers may no longer have 9-pin serial port connectors, but you can get a 9-pin to USB adapter.
[04:54] <charles_> I did phix smbclient -U guest -L Office ,but still  I get Error NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME)
[04:54] <tim> im selling my laptop through ebay. how can i reformat my hard drive in a way so that no files are recoverable?
[04:55] <RichN> joejc: I don't know about "pink" though.
[04:55] <phix> charles_: can you ping it?
[04:55] <charles_> ill try
[04:55] <dsdeiz> how do you determine the size that all packages has used?
[04:55] <phix> charles_: replace Office with the ip address of the computer instead
[04:55] <phix> charles_: what is your ip address on your linux box?  open up a terminal and type in ifconfig to find that out
[04:55] <Kleemajo> fccf1: Well, how can I expand the amount of the partition that is used for "/"? The 2 GB for each of those other things obviously isn't required since I have been running ubuntu for a couple months now without any glitches. I used to have swap space but it wasn't used at all so I removed it (I have 4 GB of ram).
[04:55] <joejc> RichN, where the printer cable would plugin before usb was used for everything?
[04:55] <dsdeiz> anyone? :D
[04:56] <charles_> phix I can ping the ubuntu box
[04:56] <Fohn> !anyone | dsdeiz
[04:56] <phix> charles_: nice, from your ubuntu box, can you ping your other computers?
[04:57] <gce> joejc: a serial to usb converter will work just fine like richn suggested.  I use one without problem
[04:57] <dsdeiz> 11:55 < dsdeiz> how do you determine the size that all packages has used?
[04:57] <RichN> joejc: The printer cables (before USB) had 25-pin connectors. Serial ports used to have 25-pin connectors, too, but then went to smaller 9-pin connectors.
[04:57] <charles_> phix yes
[04:57] <phix> charles_: good, and you have samba running on your ubuntu box?  smbclient -U guest -L localhost  on your ubuntu box
[04:58] <phix> charles_: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[04:58] <phix> charles_: try that too :P
[04:58] <losher> cambo: make the mountpoints be in /home/nfs/user instead of /home. That way you can keep /home as it is. The password files will have to be changed to indicate the new home directories...
[04:58] <peanut_butter_ki> it took me over an hour to figure out how to install things lol
[04:59] <peanut_butter_ki> how do you install programs you download off the internet?
[04:59] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[04:59] <peanut_butter_ki> how do you run it? im only used to OSes like windows and macs
[04:59] <fccf1> !hi | ShapeShifter499
[04:59] <charles_> The samba is running. When I try that smbclient -U guest -L localhost it ask me for a guess password. ( Im new again ). I don't know the guess password.
[05:00] <cambo> @losher good idea thanks
[05:00] <Conu> @peanut butter if you download .deb packages you can open with synaptic
[05:00] <ShapeShifter499> I have a acer aspire one netbook and the wifi stopped working, what do I do?
[05:00] <peanut_butter_ki> do i have synaptic automatically when i install this os?
[05:00] <charles_> phix ^
[05:00] <BlackViper2> !synaptic
[05:01] <peanut_butter_ki> i get files download as .tar
[05:01] <Conu> yeah its the default package manager
[05:01] <dsdeiz> i'd like to use pacman
[05:01] <phix> charles_: press enter
[05:01] <peanut_butter_ki> well its extension is .tar.bz2 or something similar
[05:01] <RichN> joejc, gce: gotta go. Good luck, joejc!
[05:01] <Brandon_> tar zxvf
[05:01] <Brandon_> wee
[05:01] <charles_> phix session setup failed: NT_STATUS_INVALID_PARAMETER
[05:01] <joejc> RichN, thanks for ur help
[05:02] <phix> charles_: hmmm, well add in a samba account for your login account
[05:02] <Conu> and when you click on it what happens?
[05:02] <phix> charles_: sudo smbpasswd -a YOURUNIXACCOUNTNAME
[05:02] <ShapeShifter499> anyone know what to do?
[05:03] <losher> peanut_butter_ki: it's probably source code. You'd have to unpack it, compile it, then install it. Depending on how complex it is, this might vary in difficulty from trivial to impossible. What program is it?
[05:03] <esteban> hola
[05:04] <Conu> @shapeshifter the ubuntu support forums have lots and lots (and lots) of that sort of thing
[05:04] <BlackViper2> !es
[05:04] <ShapeShifter499> ??
[05:04] <ShapeShifter499> ok
[05:04] <charles_> phix _: ok, did that then I reentered that command with my name and not guest and got this Server requested plaintext password but 'client plaintext auth' is disabled
[05:04] <charles_> session setup failed: SUCCESS - 0
[05:04] <PMT_> World, I've managed to blow away the MBR on my formerly-GRUB2 9.10 install. I'm trying to reinstall GRUB2 in the MBR, but I don't know the syntax for doing this from a LiveCD.
[05:04] <ShapeShifter499> so just search the
[05:04] <esteban> HELLO
[05:04] <ShapeShifter499> ubuntu forums?
[05:04] <Conu> Main Support Categories - Ubuntu Forums
[05:04] <Conu>
[05:04] <losher> !grub2
[05:04] <ShapeShifter499> ok
[05:05] <ShapeShifter499> bye
[05:05] <PMT_> Thank you, losher.
[05:05] <PMT_> For some reason, the first page or so of Google neglected to turn that up, and I neglected to think to search the wiki.
[05:06] <losher> PMT_: no problem. I think there's an irc channel specifically for karmic also..
[05:06] <losher> !karmic
[05:06] <Guest18191> im just trying to install it.. i dont know how to compile files
[05:06] <peanut_butter_ki> how do you compile
[05:06] <BlackViper2> !compile
[05:06] <PMT_> losher: Nice, I didn't know about that either. Thank you. :)
[05:06] <charles_> Phix_: Do you want me to send you my samba confg?
[05:06] <phix> charles_: pastbin it yes
[05:07] <phix> charles_: BRB, I need a shower, I smell
[05:07] <grodius> has anyone gotten ubuntu to wirelessly sync with the iphone (3.0) ?
[05:08] <jas8522> if someone were to have disabled some items in the start-up preference pane in 9.04 NR, where would one find the config file to re-enable them without the UI?
[05:08] <losher> peanut_butter_ki: you start by answering my question above
[05:09] <peanut_butter_ki> what
[05:09] <peanut_butter_ki> its hard to read stuff on xchat
[05:09] <peanut_butter_ki> used to mirc
[05:09] <peanut_butter_ki> what question you ask me
[05:09] <Scunizi> peanut_butter_ki: check out irssi
[05:09] <losher> peanut_butter_ki: no matter. I asked you what program you're trying to install..
[05:09] <peanut_butter_ki> the lastest firefox lol
[05:09] <quizme> Type of package: single binary, multiple binary, library, kernel module, kernel patch or cdbs?
[05:09] <quizme>  [s/m/l/k/n/b]
[05:09] <peanut_butter_ki> WHAT
[05:10] <BlackViper2> !firefox35
[05:10] <quizme> for a printer driver, which one is it ?
[05:10] <BlackViper2> 3.5
[05:10] <Scunizi> !3.5
[05:10] <peanut_butter_ki> !firefox35
[05:10] <peanut_butter_ki> wut
[05:10] <Scunizi> !ff35
[05:10] <losher> peanut_butter_ki: no need to compile it. It's available pre-built. See above
[05:10] <peanut_butter_ki> uhhh
[05:11] <peanut_butter_ki> okay hold on right quick
[05:11] <peanut_butter_ki> can i download it through irc?
[05:11]  * losher bah, no-one butchers the language quite so thorougly as native speakers
[05:12] <losher> peanut_butter_ki: not really. What os release are you running?
[05:12] <peanut_butter_ki> the lastest one
[05:12]  * PMT_ agrees with losher
[05:13] <losher> peanut_butter_ki: run lsb_release -a
[05:13] <peanut_butter_ki> in terminal?
[05:14] <losher> peanut_butter_ki: yes, lsb_release -a in terminal please
[05:14] <peanut_butter_ki> Ubuntu 9.04
[05:14] <peanut_butter_ki> jaunty
[05:15] <losher> peanut_butter_ki: ok, read the ubottu message above re: firefox 3.5 & jaunty...
[05:16] <kevdog> isnt there another way to start init.d scripts -- like a service command or something I was reading somewhere?
[05:16] <Autumn> Quick question: How valid and reliable are the warnings provided in Palimpsest in 9.10a5? It's telling me my HD is in pre-fail state, which might explain some problems I've been having...
[05:17] <teck> we are a nation of clamydia
[05:17] <fccf> Autumn: that is karmic, and still in development... discussion in #ubuntu+1
[05:18] <Autumn> ok :) thanks
[05:18] <kudi> what is the command to lock my screen to gdm
[05:18] <aphisone> I have royally screwed my laptop up... I was configuring the graphics threw the ATI video interface and both my screens started displaying strangely.  Now when I boot, the GDM screen is not displaying correctly.
[05:19] <kevdog> ouch
[05:19] <peanut_butter_ki> okay this isnt helping at all
[05:19] <kevdog> reconfigure the x server perhaps?
[05:19] <fccf> peanut_butter_ki: may I reccommend something www.ubuntupocketguide.com -- free book to answer some of your questions
[05:20] <losher> peanut_butter_ki: start up your package manager and search for firefox-3.5
[05:20] <aphisone> kevdog: I tried that... it didn't seem to correct the issue... I think I need to disable my ATI driver from the command line
[05:20] <aphisone> I don't know how to disable my ATI driver from CLI... can anyone help me with that?
[05:20] <kevdog> aphisone: Ive never had to mess with ATI drivers -- good luck
[05:20] <fccf> aphisone: run xfix from recovery mode ... ESC at first boot
[05:21] <aphisone> fccf: that's awsome... I'll try that... thanks!
[05:21] <quizme> http://pastie.org/609222  <--- did that compile the debian package ?
[05:21] <losher> kevdog: services-admin ?
[05:22] <fccf> quiz me ... see where it says libpango ... you need to install those libs
[05:23] <aphisone> fccf: I tried `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`but all that did was mess the display up to the point where it kicked out xorg back to the command prompt
[05:23] <aphisone> lol
[05:23] <peanut_butter_ki> whys it called shiretoko
[05:23] <losher> peanut_butter_ki: some kind of licensing issue
[05:23] <peanut_butter_ki> lol what really
[05:24] <losher> peanut_butter_ki: so do you have it installed and running?
[05:24] <peanut_butter_ki> bout to install it. only have the default firefox that comes with ubuntu
[05:24] <quizme> fccf: those are just warnings though
[05:24] <biovore> shiretoko is a wild life national reserve in northen japan..
[05:25] <aphisone> fccf: I tried `xfix` but command is not found, is it in the repos
[05:25] <losher> peanut_butter_ki: there's actually nothing wrong with the default firefox....
[05:25] <peanut_butter_ki> yeah but i want to be up to date
[05:25] <biovore> newer isn't always better...
[05:25] <biovore> ;-)
[05:25] <peanut_butter_ki> im trying to get the videos to stream well
[05:26] <peanut_butter_ki> i get sound but the video is like all messed up
[05:26] <peanut_butter_ki> installed flash plugin but didnt help
[05:26] <fccf> aphisone: xfix is part of recovery mode which can only be run by rebooting, and pressing ESC when you see Grub Loading
[05:26] <biovore> I doubt the new firefoxis going to fix that..
[05:26] <peanut_butter_ki> its not the reason im downloading it though
[05:26] <losher> peanut_butter_ki: this is software, not high-fashion. The newer a piece of software is, the more likely it is to have new bugs
[05:27] <aphisone> fccf:I have been working in Recovery mode... are you refering to one of the options in the first prompt?
[05:27] <peanut_butter_ki> yeah and if i find a bug ill submit it to mozilla
[05:27] <peanut_butter_ki> whats your point
[05:27] <BlackViper2> lol
[05:27] <fccf> aphisone: yes, you can access it again by typing exit
[05:28] <n0gear> after installin firefox 3.5 should i uninstall 3.0?
[05:28] <losher> fccf: aphisone as far as I know, xfix just runs dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from a script...
[05:28] <aphisone> fccf: yah I did that... however I have already tried that approach... that doesn't work
[05:28] <cryptopsy> n0gear: up to you, doesn't matter
[05:28] <aphisone> losher: yah... I know... shame. :)
[05:28] <fccf> aphisone: there may be backups of your xorg.conf in /etc/X11 that you could fall back to or work from
[05:29] <cryptopsy> aphisone: or xorg-config
[05:29] <Flannel> n0gear: No you shouldn't
[05:29] <aphisone> fccf: already tried all the backups in there... none worked
[05:29] <cryptopsy> aphisone: Do what I told you.
[05:29] <aphisone> cryptopsy: ok... yah forgot about that one... I'll try
[05:30] <losher> peanut_butter_ki: pretty cocky for someone who needed help installing a simple program...
[05:31] <jas8522> to answer my question from earlier: ~/.config/autostart
[05:31] <aphisone> cryptopsy: `xorg-config` command not found
[05:31] <innomen> hi all, is there someway of making open office ignore every line with a \ in it for spellchecking purposes? i'm tired of telling ti to ignore bits of urls (i have 1300 pages to edit and it's taken me an hour to get 302 in thanks ot this madness)
[05:32] <mneptok> innomen: proper URLs do not contain backslashes :)
[05:32] <cryptopsy> innomen: google
[05:32] <jmalicki> where does /dev/.initramfs go after a system boots? is it just gone and unable to inspect?
[05:32] <innomen> mneptok, silence you! :P
[05:32] <aphisone> innomen: check out #openoffice
[05:32] <innomen> cryptopsy, oh really i just type google or is it a check box?
[05:33] <cryptopsy> I found a website with the solution on google.
[05:33] <innomen> aphisone, ahh, thanky
[05:33] <cryptopsy> Now I want you to find it.
[05:33] <mneptok> !google > cryptopsy
[05:33] <aphisone> cryptopsy: lol
[05:33] <innomen> cryptopsy, how about you go $%^& yourself? :)
[05:33] <Flannel> aphisone, innomen: it's #Openoffice.org
[05:33] <innomen> Flannel, thanky :)
[05:33] <Flannel> innomen: Please mind your language
[05:33] <BlackViper2> !attitude > innomen
[05:33] <aphisone> innomen: WT!... no need for that
[05:33] <innomen> Flannel, i meant hug :)
[05:34] <innomen> you guys have dirty minds
[05:34] <Flannel> innomen: Just don't do it again.  There's no reason to be rude.
[05:34] <fccf> unnomen: another option is bluefish has a html filter ... you could copy there
[05:34] <innomen> Flannel, well given cryptopsy's comment I figured it was rude day :)
[05:35] <Gnea> aphisone: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg  <-- tried that?
[05:35] <innomen> fccf, hmm thats an idea, i haddent evenc osnidered just moveing to a diffrent editor of some sort. h'duh
[05:35] <Spider21> anyone have experiance with grub2
[05:35] <aphisone> Gnea: yes... thank you
[05:36] <Gnea> aphisone: okay, wasn't sure if you'd solved the problem yet or not
[05:36] <aphisone> Gnea: I even tried removing the xorg.conf all together... no better... I need a way to change the ubuntu graphics driver from the command line
[05:36] <losher> Spider21: grub2 is karmic, try #ubuntu+1
[05:36] <aphisone> I think
[05:36] <Spider21> thanks
[05:36] <Gnea> aphisone: I see... well, recent releases tend to steer away from direct editting of the xorg.conf file
[05:37] <fccf> innoman: html is spanglish to openoffice's spellchecker, whereas bluefish does nicely .. even on heavily coded pages
[05:37] <losher> aphisone: did you imply that this used to work until you reconfigured something?
[05:37] <aphisone> Gnea: I know...  kinda cool... but now I don't know how to solve my problem lol :D
[05:37] <innomen> fccf, awesome
[05:37] <peanut_butter_ki> why is the streaming of videos so horrible?
[05:38] <Gnea> aphisone: are you in the console now?
[05:38] <oem> any ubu help
[05:38] <aphisone> losher: yes, it was working... did some changes in the ATI crystal config app and now no good
[05:38] <aphisone> Gnea: yes I am
[05:38] <Gnea> !ask | oem
[05:38] <fccf> !ask | oem
[05:38] <Gnea> aphisone: which ati card do you have?
[05:39] <oem> sorry, my mistake
[05:39] <losher> aphisone: no backup of the working version I suppose?
[05:39] <aphisone> Gnea: good question... 1 sec
[05:39] <Gnea> oem: no problem, give it another shot - be as detailed as you can
[05:39] <messi> how can I to assign serial port more than ttyS3 on ubuntu 9
[05:40] <aphisone> Gnea: uhh... what would give me that info?
[05:40] <biovore> messi: how many serial ports you have?
[05:40] <spishee> about 5-6 ports.
[05:40] <Gnea> aphisone: lspci | grep VGA
[05:41] <andyzammy> hello everyone, i'm trying to install the psp-toolchain on my ubuntutop, i'm compiling from source by runnning a script, but i get the following error: ERROR: Set $PSPDEV before continuing. ../depends/check-pspdev.sh: Failed. i edited .bashrc and added the export lines like it told me to. does anybody know where i'm going wrong?
[05:41] <phix> !ask | oem
[05:41] <oem> Any assistance with the wifi module on an Acer Aspire One aoa150 Netbook, running jaunty jackalope, on the connecting through Wifi or 802.11
[05:41] <aphisone> Gnea: ahh.. that's it... I was trying dmesg lol... Radeon HD 3100
[05:41] <Gnea> phix: lag?
[05:41] <fccf> aphisone: if you look through /var/cache/apt/archives you may find a previous version of the driver (aka the one that worked, find the newer driver in there ... look carefully at dates see what was recently installed .. then find the next older driver .. install with sudo dpkg -i PACKAGE-FILE-NAME.deb
[05:42] <Gnea> oem: what's the problem, exactly? is it not being detected or not finding an access point?
[05:42] <phix> Gnea: Yes, I am lagged :) in my brain that is.
[05:42] <onats> hi, on an ubuntu 9.04 install, how do i make a "service" wait until a prerequisite service starts completely?
[05:42] <Gnea> phix: lol
[05:42] <losher> fccf: aphisone: if that doesn't work, also look at /var/log/dpkg.log which gives the chronology of installed packages
[05:42] <phix> Gnea: my ping is fine :)
[05:42] <innomen> fccf: bluefish apears to be working nicely, thanks :)
[05:42] <phix> it must be me
[05:42] <Gnea> phix: it happens
[05:42] <phix> I think I need more coffee
[05:42] <Gnea> oem: here, please.
[05:43] <Besogon> It possible to make multiseat (12 terminals) classroom with using VirtualBOX or Xen. (Actually we need WindowsXP for running CAD)
[05:43] <phix> BRB coffee, then I will help assist oem too :)
[05:43] <Besogon> Is it possible to make multiseat (12 terminals) classroom with using VirtualBOX or Xen? (Actually we need WindowsXP for running CAD)
[05:43] <error404notfound> i got this: http://pastebin.com/m7fb38df3 in one of my server's logwatch email, whats this, is this critical?
[05:45] <Gnea> aphisone: do you have pastebinit installed?
[05:45] <aphisone> losher, fccf: fglrx was installed as the driver... also shows it in the archives...
[05:45] <aphisone> Gnea: no
[05:45] <Gnea> !pastebinit | aphisone (sudo apt-get install pastebinit)
[05:45] <bing> how to close a opened port ?
[05:46] <fccf> bing: what port?
[05:46] <aphisone> Gnea: nice tool... good to know.. installing
[05:46] <Gnea> bing: find the process and turn it off
[05:47] <losher> onats: as far as I know, there is no built-in facility for that kind of coordination of services. Usually, the services themselves have to coordinate using some agreed upon protocol. Which services are you trying to coordinate?
[05:47] <Tecumsah> sup
[05:47] <bing> Gnea, When we use the network tools => port scan => it shows unknown process, port opened....
[05:47] <bing> how to close the port opened.
[05:47] <Gnea> aphisone: going to need the output of this command:   dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep xserver-xorg-video
[05:47] <onats> losher, i need the mysql server started fully first, before the tomcat server starts...
[05:47] <aphisone> Gnea: what is ^ii
[05:48] <Tecumsah> hmm
[05:48] <fccf> bing: what port #?
[05:48] <Gnea> aphisone: matches installed packages only
[05:48] <bing> 52072
[05:48] <oem> sorry, Gnea how you sending in orange
[05:48] <peanut_butter_ki> is there a better broswer than firefox for linux?
[05:49] <peanut_butter_ki> i used to use opera back when i used windows and i liked that so much more than firefox
[05:49] <altf2o> i just compiled Chromium, and so far i'm a huge fan.
[05:49] <stealth-> peanut_butter_ki: depends on what you like. You can try opera
[05:49] <Gnea> bing: sudo netstat -nap | grep 52072
[05:49] <peanut_butter_ki> oh they have opera on linux?
[05:49] <stealth-> peanut_butter_ki: yes, theres opera for linux
[05:49] <BlackViper2> peanut_butter_ki, there is opera for ubuntu
[05:49] <peanut_butter_ki> yeah i used chrome before too it was alright
[05:49] <BlackViper2> lol
[05:49] <Gnea> oem: I type your name first with a : at the end, like this, then type. you should do the same back to me.
[05:49] <peanut_butter_ki> alright imma look for opera now
[05:49] <LinuxMercedes> I've been trying to get a bluetooth gps to work with my Ubuntu 9.04 machine, following the tutorial from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1497680 I'm good until the sdptool browse command...it says browsing <address> and then exits. Any ideas?
[05:50] <Gnea> !opera | peanut_butter_ki
[05:50] <rashed2020> Is there a way to move an Ubuntu installation from one computer to another?
[05:50] <losher> onats: the easiest thing it just to delay tomcat until you're sure mysql has started. If you wanted to get more sophisticated, you could query the mysql server to see if it's responding. Note that whatever you do, you need to handle the case where mysql never comes up. You don't want your system to hang completely if that happens...
[05:50] <oem> Gnea: like this?
[05:50] <Gnea> !clone | rashed2020
[05:50] <Gnea> oem: yup
[05:51] <rashed2020> Gnea: What about my personal settings and customizations?
[05:51] <aphisone> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/f6b83ffc7
[05:51] <Gnea> rashed2020: that would be located in /home
[05:51] <onats> losher, is there like a delay/sleep command for bash scripts?
[05:51] <Gnea> aphisone: oh good, you have the radeon driver installed... one sec
[05:51] <rashed2020> So just do the above, and copy home? That would be like using the same computer?
[05:52] <andyzammy> can anybody help me figure out what exactly to add to .bashrc? i'm getting an error compiling the psp-toolchain which says "ERROR: Set $PSPDEV before continuing. ../depends/check-pspdev.sh: Failed." I added a couple of lines to .bashrc but i think i'm still missing something.
[05:52] <losher> onats: there is a sleep command. man sleep..
[05:52] <oem> Gnea: sorry first time on irc chat other than the ancient windows IRC years ago =p.... Is there any way to update the drivers, and or exchange them and corun side by side with alternative Os's
[05:52] <innomen> fccf, do you know where bluefish hides it's dictionary file?
[05:52] <Gnea> aphisone: what vendor do you get from this command?  glxinfo |grep vendor
[05:53] <Gnea> oem: possibly, but that's assuming that that would be the answer to the problem that you mentioned about wireless before
[05:53] <innomen> i cant find a forum or anything
[05:53] <onats> losher, ok thanks, am just gonna sleep it for 30 seconds
[05:53] <onats> that for sure should be enough time to startup the mysql server
[05:53] <aphisone> Gnea: Error: unable to open display
[05:53] <Gnea> *facepalm*
[05:53] <sauvin_> Jaunty Jackalope, brand new install, running KDE4. First thing it did was lose the taskbar along the bottom. I have a terminal open; anybody know how to get the taskbar going again?
[05:54] <innomen> !panel
[05:54] <Gnea> aphisone: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:54] <oem> gnea: well im sort of unsure as to the file system I know the way around Im just unsure of the opening method's such as the .h .c .so and alt files
[05:54] <aphisone> Gnea: and this has been my frustration for that last 2 hours
[05:54] <oem> tell gnea: and installing source code to ubuntu or .deb
[05:54] <Gnea> aphisone: ah - well, it could be worse :)
[05:54] <fccf> innomen: give me a min ... I am looking
[05:54] <losher> onats: ok, but realise that if you do this in the boot script, everything will pause for 30 seconds during boot while the script sleeps...
[05:54] <innomen> fccf, cool, thank you :)
[05:54] <bing> thanks
[05:55] <aphisone> Gnea: I get no info, just a new command prompt
[05:55] <Gnea> oem: well, .c are C program files (just the source code) and .h are the header files that the C files utilize in order to compile into the .so shared library files
[05:56] <Gnea> aphisone: okay - if you press alt-f7, is the X still running or is it a blank screen?
[05:56] <aphisone> Gnea: if I look into the old versions of the xorg.conf I have seen fglrx
[05:57] <oem> Gnea: how would I tell this to install tho in a manner of speaking what command prompt? or terminal command.
[05:57] <aphisone> Gnea: term 7 isn't enabled... only term 1 - 6
[05:57] <dj801> tasha TURN UTORRENT OFF =,= http://www.speedtest.net/result/559471519.png
[05:58] <hardware> hello. when i upgraded to ubuntu 9.04 i couldnt even play an mp3 or view video because there was a lack of intel hardware support. does anyone know if these issues have been corrected? aka : Does 9.04 have intel hardware support?
[05:58] <oem> Gnea: Only been using ubuntu around a week now well caching on.... used to microsoft and overriding everything lol
[05:58] <fccf> innomen: I believe it is using the local dictionary in /usr/share/dict
[05:58] <onats> losher, hmmm
[05:58] <onats> even the other scripts that were previously started?
[05:58] <innomen> fccf: hmm, alright, thanky, i guess thats not the one OO uses.
[05:58] <innomen> i'll tinker
[05:59] <oem> hardware: no you got to go online and patch 3 upgrades ... well mine did
[05:59] <jmalicki> hardware: intel hardware has been around in a general sense for much longer. perhaps you should ask about your specific hardware.
[05:59] <BlackViper2> !intel
[05:59] <Gnea> aphisone: X usually runs on 7, so okay.  type this:  X >& X.log   and it should take you back to the prompt (if not, ctrl-alt-backspace will kill it)  then pastebinit the X.log file
[06:00] <Gnea> oem: heh, well, wireless is a bit tricky in ubuntu - which wireless card/chip do you have?
[06:00] <jmalicki> Gnea: why not use the logfile it already creates?
[06:00] <losher> onats: all boot scripts have to complete before boot completes. So a boot script that sleeps will delay startup. I dunno much about tomcat. Maybe there is a better solution. Try google?
[06:00] <Gnea> jmalicki: because this isn't appended
[06:00] <jmalicki> ah
[06:01] <jmalicki> Gnea: hmm, the one X writes on its own doesn't seem to be either
[06:02] <aphisone> Gnea: XorgKill combo doesn't work
[06:02] <jmalicki> aphisone: what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[06:02] <Gnea> aphisone: does it bring up a grey screen with a cursor?
[06:03] <aphisone> Gnea: no a black screen with pixlated lines at the top
[06:04] <Gnea> aphisone: okay, you should be able to kill it like this:  killall -9 X
[06:04] <aphisone> jmalicki: wait one... I have to reboot my computer now
[06:04] <jmalicki> aphisone: you could ssh into it
[06:04] <aphisone> Gnea: I can't get back to my term 1
[06:04] <Gnea> aphisone: ctrl-alt-f1 should do it
[06:05] <tp_> i want to test remote desktop on xubuntu.. could anyone be a partner?
[06:05] <aphisone> Gnea: I tried that millions of time... sadly, no luck
[06:05] <Gnea> aphisone: how about this:  alt-sysrq-k
[06:05] <aphisone> Gnea: already rebooting
[06:05] <Gnea> heh alright
[06:06] <tp_> anyone? this is the first time i am trying it out
[06:06] <aphisone> Gnea: I was in a real pissy mood earlier... now I've accepted my fait
[06:06] <Gnea> aphisone: btw, if you install the dontzap package, and then run:  sudo dontzap --disable   it will allow ctrl-alt-backspace to work
[06:07] <Gnea> !dontzap
[06:07] <axle> hey
[06:07] <axle> my computer has 4 sata slots and 2 ide, i can't boot from the idea
[06:07] <axle> ide
[06:07] <bastid_raZor> Gnea: if one installs dontzap does alt+sysrq+k still restart X
[06:08] <axle> think its motherboard support issue?
[06:09] <innomen> ok so nothing will open standard.dic, and open office itself shows me the list of words i need to export/import but in it's infinite wisdow it will not let me select or copy them, does anyone have any idea how to make standard.dic readable?
[06:09] <Gnea> bastid_raZor: yes.
[06:09] <Gnea> bastid_raZor: alt+sysrq+k effectively nails a terminal to its core.
[06:09] <tp_> #audio
[06:10] <DrHouse|Compaq> omg sad thing happened to my friend he ran sudo rm -rf / :/ not knowing the ramifications of that command
[06:10] <Gnea> axle: doubt it, you probably don't have the correct boot order set in the bios
[06:10] <Gnea> DrHouse|Compaq: why?
[06:10] <DrHouse|Compaq> dude really idk
[06:10] <Gnea> DrHouse|Compaq: who told him to run it?
[06:10] <aphisone> Gnea: the Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/fa401c18
[06:11] <DrHouse|Compaq> some guy on chat on another network
[06:11] <innomen> DrHouse|Compaq, thats probably because everyone is trying to security through obscurity, i'd personally compile a list of commands to NEVER run and put it in the topic.
[06:11] <innomen> or ink to it,
[06:11] <innomen> link*
[06:11] <theoros> i'm pretty sure that isn't true, innomen
[06:11] <RRRXXX> Hey Guys,
[06:11] <RRRXXX> I have a accumulated lot of data on my Ubuntu PC. I would like you guys to suggest me a partition where I can keep this data so that when I do a clean install, i can format '/' '/home' and get a clean system without leftover files.
[06:11] <RRRXXX> I have been using '/' and '/home' for the past couple few years with '/home' containing all the data. But since it contain .themes, .metacity and all those directories, I want to format '/home' too when doing a clean install.
[06:11] <RRRXXX> What partition should I create for storing data(music,videos,documents etc) ?
[06:11] <FloodBot3> RRRXXX: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:11] <theoros> there's a pretty big post on ubuntuforums about commands for beginners
[06:12] <stooj> I've just connected to an ubuntu server I'm running and have been greeted with: "You have a new mail." Can anyone tell me what generated this and where I might pick up the message?
[06:12] <innomen> theoros, i've read on many support forums where people emtnion commands that do things of that sort and then say "but i wont tell you just in case" plus in ehre i think there is a bot command that talks about devastating commands but it does not list them
[06:12] <RRRXXX> that was a genuine question
[06:12] <RRRXXX> why ban ?
[06:12] <Newbuntu2> is there a tool to map wifi signal strengths in ubuntu (eg heatmapper for windows)?
[06:12] <pcbuilder97> can a bad hard drive prevent gnome partitioner live cd from loading? anybody??
[06:12] <innomen> RRRXXX, too much text too fast
[06:12] <leaf-sheep> RRRXXX: You were banned temporarily to stop the flooding.
[06:12] <DrHouse|Compaq> RRRXXX, you said question with too many lines and triggered spambot
[06:12] <stooj> RRRXXX: Too many messages in quick succession
[06:12] <Gnea> aphisone: okay. the reason I asked for the X.log file was to eliminate the possibility of getting the useless fglrx info there.
[06:12] <RRRXXX> ok
[06:13] <leaf-sheep> RRRXXX: Best to keep everything in one line.
[06:13] <aphisone> Gnea: okay
[06:13] <Gnea> RRRXXX: please don't paste more than 2 lines at a time.
[06:13] <RRRXXX> ok
[06:13] <Gnea> axle: please do not PM me.
[06:13] <Gnea> axle: chat here, please. I can't help you in PM.
[06:14] <RRRXXX> I have a accumulated lot of data on my Ubuntu PC. I would like you guys to suggest me a partition where I can keep this data so
[06:14] <RRRXXX> that when I do a clean install, i can format '/' '/home' and get a clean system without leftover files.
[06:14] <RRRXXX> I have been using '/' and '/home' for the past couple few years with '/home' containing all the data. But since it
[06:14] <Gnea> RRRXXX: I usually make a /data
[06:14] <RRRXXX> ok
[06:14] <RRRXXX> thanks
[06:14] <Flannel> RRRXXX: Just remove your dotfiles
[06:14] <RRRXXX> that helped
[06:15] <axle> k sorry
[06:15] <RRRXXX> so this /data partition does not have any hidden files right from the os ?
[06:15] <Gnea> RRRXXX: I made it out of thin air on another partition, somewhere.
[06:15] <RRRXXX> ok , removing hidden files will also do. thanks guys
[06:15] <aphisone> RRRXXX: /data would be one that you make... the system wouldn't use it unless you tell it to
[06:15] <axle> well the thing is i tried to put 2 seperate IDE drives in this comp and they crash when windows tries to load, yes they work in other machines
[06:15] <Gnea> RRRXXX: they're only there if you put them there
[06:15] <RRRXXX> ok
[06:15] <RRRXXX> thans Gnea
[06:15] <RRRXXX> thanks for the help
[06:16] <RRRXXX> Bye
[06:16] <innomen> am i the only person in the word that wants to open this file? i just googled "open standard.dic" and got a single useless result
[06:16] <innomen> sometimes it sucks being a pioneer :P
[06:16] <Gnea> axle: ok, but the system is going to see them in a certain boot order - HDD-0, HDD-1, HDD-2, and so on - you have to make sure you have the order correct in order for the boot order to work correctly
[06:17] <axle> im manually selecting them
[06:17] <linuxninja> Is there an RFC for SSL
[06:17] <Gnea> axle: define 'manually'
[06:17] <Gnea> linuxninja: probably
[06:17] <axle> pressing f12, selecting HD, then picking the IBM IDE drive
[06:17] <linuxninja> Gnea: I can't find one. There is an RFC for TLS.
[06:17] <ugur> hi all i don't know if it is the same in ubuntu but the power manager in ubuntu netbook remix doesn't have an option to set a power management profile. Isn't it odd that you can not set it to always powersave in a netbook where it is crucial?
[06:17] <Gnea> linuxninja: weird
[06:18] <aphisone> linuxninja: 4251
[06:18] <Gnea> axle: maybe you don't have the MBR mapped correctly
[06:18] <tp_> hi i am facing issues with video.. can anyone help?
[06:18] <axle> i tried unplugging the ata but it didnt help, i just really need windows to do XNA unfortunetly
[06:18] <linuxninja> aphisone: Let me take a look
[06:18] <tp_>  when i watch a youtube video in full screen the video is trailing.. ie the transitions are not smooth
[06:18] <Besogon> how good does work CADs in virtualbox (VMware xen) what is your advice?
[06:18] <axle> it works in another computer though
[06:18] <tp_>  i guess this is a video driver issue
[06:18] <tp_>  i used to face a similar problem in windows when i didnot install the motherboard video drivers
[06:18] <aphisone> linuxninja: 4252
[06:18] <Gnea> aphisone: okay, did you try the dontzap thing?
[06:18] <WIGGMPk> Besogon: try #vmware or #vbox not here
[06:18] <tp_> any solutions ??
[06:19] <axle> and it tries to boot, it just crashes and restarts
[06:19] <axle> like i even get, start in safe mode etc///
[06:19] <WIGGMPk> Besogon: or perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:19] <axle> but then it just crashes and restarts
[06:19] <linuxninja> aphisone: That's the RFC for SSH. I'm looking for SSL
[06:19] <Gnea> tp_: install the correct video driver.
[06:20] <WIGGMPk> linuxninja: have you tried google for this?
[06:21] <Gnea> linuxninja: http://www.webstart.com/jed/papers/HRM/references/ssl.html  I don't think SSL has an RFC, but TLS does, and SSL relies on TLS.
[06:21] <linuxninja> WIGGMPk: Yup...
[06:21] <aphisone> Gnea: I have it installed... I ran the dontzap command... should I try the X >& X.log command again
[06:21] <Gnea> aphisone: please
[06:21] <linuxninja> Gnea: That's my conclusion as well.. No RFC for SSL
[06:21] <silare> Is there a flavour of UBuntu that's very minimalistic on install and comes with only a few apps like a browser or so so that I can install only what I want on it and not worry about breaking metapackages?
[06:21] <axle> could the hard drive being made in 99 be the problem?
[06:21] <Gnea> linuxninja: because SSL isn't that low-level, whereas TLS is
[06:22] <Gnea> axle: probably
[06:22] <linuxninja> Gnea: I see... Well, sorta... Thanks for the info...
[06:22] <aphisone> Gnea: the system is actually halted... no response
[06:22] <Gnea> axle: anything over 6 or 7 years old deserves to be replaced
[06:22] <axle> that's all i can think of, it work in the older MB that uses IDE
[06:23] <Gnea> aphisone: where is it halted at?
[06:23] <axle> yeah, i just got an old one dropped off to stick windows on, im trying to avoid resizing my ext3 cause its encrypted with LUKS\
[06:23] <Gnea> axle: could be a bad cable, maybe?
[06:23] <innomen> lol, ubuntu itself can read the file, it prints the first couple words in the icon for the text file renamed from standard.dic, btu when you pen the file to see asain chaarcters instead of the words, what encoding is ubuntu useing to generate the preview thumbnail for text files?
[06:23] <axle> no, its the cable my cdrom drive uses
[06:23] <aphisone> Gnea: starting the display... black screen with dispixlated lines at the top
[06:24] <Gnea> axle: that's why. NEVER connect an IDE cdrom and hard drive on the same channel. separate them.
[06:24] <sauvin_> Unable to play a movie DVD in Jaunty. dvdcss2 installed. What gives?
[06:24] <axle> they are seperate, i only have 1 molex connector :P
[06:24] <silare> Out of curiosity, what GIMP plugins do you guys tend to use? There's a REALLY big repository I'm aware of, but which do you guys tend to use?
[06:24] <axle> so i can only plug in 1 at a time
[06:24] <Gnea> axle: power isn't the difference, it's the fact that they're using the same *IDE* cable.
[06:24] <dalfz> is there a way i can kill a listening socket? the using process cannot restart immediately because socket is "already in use"
[06:25] <Gnea> axle: also, the drive may not like being automatically detected by the bios
[06:25] <axle> they are using the same cable, but not at the same time
[06:25] <Gnea> axle: do you have it set to M, S or CS?
[06:25] <axle> M
[06:25] <Gnea> axle: try CS
[06:26] <axle> kk, i was thinking that, but i dont even know what cable select is for really
[06:26] <Gnea> aphisone: and alt+sysrq+k dosn't quell it?
[06:26] <WIGGMPk> axle: it just lets the cable determine the arrangement of the drives
[06:26] <aphisone> Gnea: no it doesn't
[06:27] <Gnea> axle: it's called "cable select" because the placement on the IDE cable "selects" whether it's master or slave. be sure to physically disconnect the IDE cable from the cdrom, whether it's powered or not.
[06:27] <ravn2> hi guys, whys does searching for files still take such long time? Isn't there a fs database these days, or do I need to activate this feature some how?
[06:27] <axle> okay, thanx a lot, ill give it a shot
[06:27] <axle> its got a bunch of other setting too
[06:27] <axle> 15 pin
[06:27] <pyrak> how do i dist-upgrade an usupported ubuntu version?
[06:27] <pyrak> specifically, gutsy
[06:27] <axle> 16 pin, 2gb clip, auto spin disable
[06:28] <leaf-sheep> !upgrade | pyrak
[06:28] <Gnea> aphisone: okay... alt+sysrq+b  should reboot it then
[06:28] <axle> im going by the 16 pin arrangements
[06:28] <Gnea> axle: those don't count, they are figments of your imagination
[06:28] <Gnea> axle: unless it's an IBM
[06:28] <axle> it is
[06:28] <WIGGMPk> lol
[06:28] <WIGGMPk> rut ro
[06:28] <Gnea> keep the arrangement the same then
[06:28] <Gnea> just make sure it'll do CS
[06:29] <mib> hi. i try to upgrade my pidgin however, i received this error:-  pidgin: Depends: pidgin-data (< 1:2.1.1-z) but 1:2.2.1-1ubuntu4.3 is to be installed E: Broken packages..
[06:29] <RichiV> Whats the  "best" torrent downloader?
[06:29] <mib> how can i solve this
[06:29] <dsdeiz> rtorrent!
[06:29] <axle> yeah, im doing CS 16pin, ill brb
[06:29] <Gnea> !best | RichiV
[06:29] <Gnea> axle: sounds good
[06:30] <zenxr> RichiV: I always use transmission bittorrent client
[06:30] <mib> how an i solve the problem
[06:30] <zenxr> Honestly there's not much to be picky about with bittorrents
[06:30] <onats> im having issues with tomcat when it is being started up from boot up. it hangs, as compared to doing an /etc/init.d/tomcat start/restart
[06:30] <zenxr> mib: Try posting the question first lol
[06:30] <innomen> in case anyone wants to know for others seeking help standard.dic CANT be edited. http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=7483&start=0
[06:30] <WIGGMPk> zenxr: he did
[06:30] <WIGGMPk> mib: dont keep asking for help, its annoying.. someone will answer if they know the answer
[06:30] <mib> hi. i try to upgrade my pidgin however, i received this error:-  pidgin: Depends: pidgin-data (< 1:2.1.1-z) but 1:2.2.1-1ubuntu4.3 is to be installed E: Broken packages..how can i solve his
[06:30] <innomen> night guys i need sleep heheh
[06:31] <mib> ok.*waiting.
[06:31] <zenxr> Oh
[06:31] <aphisone> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/f19c9104a
[06:31] <zenxr> i went right over than scrolling up lol
[06:31] <grawity> mib: You're probably trying install a very old version of Pidgin :
[06:31] <zenxr> mib: are you using apt-get or installing from source?
[06:32] <legend2440> Gnea: what would you recommend for 2 ide hard drives  1 cdrw and 1 dvdrw and i have two cables?  2 hard drives on one cable and cdrw and dvdrw on the other?
[06:32] <CopyWriter> in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth, then some years after ubuntu came along and i haven't stopped to smell the flowers since
[06:32] <mib> im actually using feisty and the only way workaround i foud  now is from http://howto.landure.fr/gnu-linux/ubuntu-feisty-fawn-1/software-for-ubuntu-feisty-fawn/pidgin-previously-gaim-on-ubuntu-feisty-fawn#1252312034
[06:32] <zenxr> wow
[06:32] <zenxr> I believe it's time for an upgrade lol
[06:33] <mib> but i have limited space harddisk
[06:33] <mib> :(
[06:33] <grawity> mib: how big is the HD?
[06:33] <Gnea> aphisone: it looks like it's trying to use the fglrx driver still, somehow...
[06:33] <mib> just few G
[06:33] <Gnea> legend2440: yeah
[06:33] <legend2440> Gnea: ok thanks
[06:33] <grawity> mib: maybe upgrade to another distro then? :)
[06:33] <aphisone> Gnea: well yah... how do I disable that driver
[06:34] <mib> means?
[06:34] <zenxr> try puppylinux
[06:34] <zenxr> or damn small linux
[06:34] <Gnea> aphisone: hrm... can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[06:34] <zenxr> mib: your problem is that the feisty repositories are no longer supported..
[06:34] <grawity> mib: There are some much lighter distros than Ubuntu. (I use Arch.) Or, take a look at http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/
[06:34] <zenxr> I don't like Arch
[06:34] <zenxr> Slackware for me :D
[06:35] <aphisone> Gnea: sure... it's been changed a few million times.. but I'll give you the one that just ran
[06:35] <mib> grawity,so i could install othr versio of pidgin?/
[06:35] <Gnea> mib: yeah, fiesty isn't supported anymore, I would encourage you to upgrade to 8.04 or newer
[06:35] <Gnea> aphisone: lol ok
[06:35] <grawity> mib: kinda. (But seriously, get rid of Feisty.)
[06:35] <zenxr> mib: yeah, you'll need to install from source probably, i'll look for one
[06:35] <mib> but would it usually wash away all the current stuffs in my hd?
[06:35] <zenxr> lol
[06:35] <zenxr> Yes
[06:35] <grawity> zenxr: Pidgin PPA.
[06:35] <Gnea> zenxr: please don't advise that.
[06:35] <aphisone> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/f5a16bf9
[06:36] <zenxr> Gnea: why not?
[06:36] <grawity> Gnea: Why not?
[06:36] <Gnea> aphisone:         Driver  "fglrx"
[06:36] <mib> :( I have tons of stuffs in my current HD and still trying to avoid from  porting to another ver
[06:36] <aphisone> Gnea... yah... yah
[06:36] <Gnea> zenxr, grawity: what's the point when s/he could just upgrade the distro?
[06:36] <grawity> mib: how much total and free?
[06:36] <Gnea> aphisone: okay, change "fglrx" to "radeon"
[06:36] <aphisone> Gnea: that was the only config that would allow me to come back from X
[06:37] <mib> total would be 5 G and free 1Gb
[06:37] <mib> :(
[06:37] <zenxr> Gnea: he can't do an apt-get upgrade because the feisty repositories are gone
[06:37] <grawity> mib: still possible to upgrade.
[06:37] <Gnea> zenxr: doesn't matter.
[06:37] <zenxr> Well actually I believed they just moved them
[06:37] <zenxr> Yeah it is possible
[06:37] <grawity> mib: Do you happen to have a USB pendrive?
[06:37] <mib> yes
[06:37] <mib> i have
[06:37] <grawity> !eol | Gnea
[06:37] <aphisone> Gnea: olay
[06:37] <leaf-sheep> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[06:37] <mib> what stuffs would it be washes away?
[06:37] <zenxr> I still wouldn't do a complete change just for that...
[06:38] <aphisone> Gnea: I mean okay.. but I like olay *Olay*
[06:38] <grawity> mib: It often is possible to do an upgrade without losing any data.
[06:38] <Gnea> grawity: yes, and? just because the security updates aren't there doesn't mean he can't move up one
[06:38] <hajmola> i'm trying to play an HD WMV but I'm not getting any sound...
[06:38] <mib> because i have settings from 2 years ago including Latex stuffs
[06:38] <zenxr> hajmola: what program are you using?
[06:39] <grawity> Gnea: I know, that link's supposed to have instructions.
[06:39] <aphisone> Gnea: ran X but now I get the same issue as the other configs... black screen with colored lines
[06:39] <hajmola> zenxr, tried it with totem and vlc
[06:39] <zenxr> try mplayer/gxine
[06:39] <Gnea> aphisone: check the X.log, see if it's got the same error
[06:39] <aphisone> Gnea: I did the alt+SysRq+B
[06:40] <hajmola> zenxr, "Cannot find codec for audio format 0x162."
[06:40] <Gr1> Greetings. is there any widget or anything other than screenlets that can be used on ubuntu desktop that shows the machine's performance statistics and network activity?
[06:40] <bastidrazor> Gr1: conky
[06:40] <zenxr> Grl: conky is win
[06:41] <zenxr> There's also gdesklets
[06:41] <zenxr> hajmola: which player was that?
[06:41] <aphisone> Gnea: no.. seams to be different
[06:41] <Gr1> zenxr and bastidrazor : Thank you  . I will check that out
[06:41] <Gnea> aphisone: diff?
[06:41] <hajmola> zenxr, mplayer
[06:42] <aphisone> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/f243ccb9c
[06:42] <zenxr> gxine has always been my video player of choice.. 10 bucks says it works with gxine :D
[06:43] <Gnea> mib: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6319924&postcount=4
[06:43] <aphisone> Gnea: line 455
[06:44] <hajmola> zenxr, you owe me $10
[06:44] <zenxr> Oh wow lol
[06:44] <zenxr> *hands $10*
[06:44] <hajmola> zenxr: file uses unsupported codec, Audio codec: Windows Media Audio v3 (0x16)
[06:44] <Gnea> aphisone: alright, try "vesa"
[06:45] <zenxr> gXine usually installs windows codecs by default, which is why I assumed it worked..
[06:45] <aphisone> Gnea: almost seems like I need to do a compleate uninstall and reinstall of my video drivers or something
[06:45] <aphisone> Gnea: okay
[06:45] <hari_> Is there any device on which I can try the "ubuntu mobile edition" ?
[06:45] <zenxr> hajmola: try installing the mplayer/totem windows codecs?
[06:45] <axle> back, same thing, starts too boot, blue screen flashes, then restart
[06:45] <Rabbitbunny> Hey, you know how it's really dumb to use sudo for GUI? I did it. It won't let me change my files owner or group. Someone in here had a super link on how to fix it... anyone know who?
[06:46] <aphisone> Gnea: now I have a black screen without colored lines... progress?
[06:46] <hajmola> zenxr, yeah i might give that a try, thanks
[06:46] <Gnea> mib, zenxr: yup, it's there: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/
[06:46] <zenxr> hajmola: sorry I was no help lol
[06:46] <hajmola> zenxr, it's all good
[06:46] <zenxr> Gnea: I knew it'd be somewhere, even if it was on some random person's home server lol :D
[06:46] <Loafers> Since fglrx does not support latest version of xorg should I revert to an older version of xorg?
[06:47] <Gnea> aphisone: maybe? can you get to the terminal or stop it now?
[06:47] <aphisone> Gnea: no...
[06:47] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: can you post your xorg.conf?
[06:47] <Gnea> aphisone: also, you can disable gdm starting (i should've said this sooner..)  sudo update-rc.d -f remove gdm
[06:47] <axle> i noticed my MB only had 1 ide port that it uses for cdrom, perhaps the MB doesn't have support for booting from it? i'm guessing, i'd like to try and put another OS on it, but that won't really help, i need something to run xna on my 360
[06:47] <aphisone> Gnea: alt+sysrq+b
[06:48] <Gnea> aphisone: try booting to the other mode
[06:48] <aphisone> Gnea: I am booting into single user mode... root network prompt
[06:48] <Gnea> zenxr: :)
[06:50] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: I have been changing it so much it's just a shell with a few modifications
[06:50] <axle> probably better i just resize my partition or get a new ata drive, was just trying to do it the easy way/save money
[06:50] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: toss it in pastebin if you can
[06:50] <zenxr> saving money is always good :)
[06:50] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: are you running a server kernel? a custom one?
[06:51] <grawity> curl =F 'sprunge=</etc/X11/xorg.conf' sprunge.us, if you're on single=user
[06:51] <grawity> *-F
[06:51] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: standard kernel
[06:54] <Rabbitbunny> How do I find out what kind of windows partition I put on this external drive?
[06:54] <Rabbitbunny> the partition manager disappeared.
[06:54] <WIGGMPk> Rabbitbunny: fdisk -ls
[06:54] <WIGGMPk> Rabbitbunny: might need to be "sudo fdisk -ls"
[06:55] <tomas1> hey guys this may be a weird question but is there a way to add a menu to the topbar (Applications, Places, System)
[06:56] <grawity> tomas1: Try 'alacarte', the menu editor.
[06:56] <aphisone> Gnea: I'm at a command prompt
[06:56] <Armagedd1n> can I upgrade to Ubuntu server from Ubuntu ?
[06:56] <tomas1> i have tryed the menu editor it only lets me place menus in the already created menus
[06:56] <Armageddon> can I upgrade to Ubuntu server from Ubuntu ?
[06:57] <grawity> Armageddon: 1) please don't repeat, 2) yes
[06:57] <aphisone> I laugh... this our problems only occur when we can't afford to have them... :)
[06:57] <Rabbitbunny> WIGGMPk: Thanks
[06:57] <Armageddon> grawity, I'm lagging, didn't know if the first was posted inside the channel
[06:57] <WIGGMPk> np
[06:58] <Armageddon> and yes but how ?
[06:58] <dumont> how do I create a symlink in rc2.d from init.d ?
[06:58] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: so is it just a graphic driver problem here Gnea?
[06:58] <axle> Armageddon: check ubuntuforums.com, there is probably a tut
[06:59] <Armageddon> thanks axle
[06:59] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: I think so
[06:59] <sauvin_> Why does Jaunty Jackalope have no sound?
[06:59] <WIGGMPk> sauvin_: pulseaudio was implemented poorly and is prolly muted
[06:59] <sauvin_> How to unmute it?
[07:00] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: I've tried so many different things to try to get it to work... if only there was roll-back on time!
[07:00] <WIGGMPk> sauvin_: open the sound properties? unclick the mute button
[07:00] <axle> sauvin: same thing for your mic too, if you got one, click speaker at top
[07:00] <sauvin_> Where are "sound properties"? This is kubuntu, mind.
[07:00] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: have you tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[07:00] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: yes
[07:00] <WIGGMPk> sauvin_: I have no idea.. I use GNOME
[07:01] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: be back in a sec..
[07:01] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: I'm thinking a complete-uninstall of the ATI config app and drivers and a reinstall
[07:02] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: http://pastebin.com/f1b5fb45c is my xorg.conf
[07:03] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: where does this config get you?
[07:03] <dumont> how do I create a symlink in rc2.d from init.d ?
[07:03] <nomic> anyone tell me the channel for programming advice
[07:03] <nomic> for instance C
[07:03] <dumont> what's the full path to iptables?
[07:03] <aphisone> to a black screen
[07:03] <grawity> nomic: depends on the programmin language
[07:03] <soreau> nomic: ##c
[07:03] <grawity> nomic: C help can be found in ##C, I think
[07:03] <nomic> ty soreau had forgotten about it
[07:03] <axle> what about c#?
[07:04] <grawity> axle: ##csharp?
[07:04] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: do you have any visual comfirmation that the card is still good?
[07:04] <zenxr> #c# looks strange :d
[07:04] <grawity> zenxr: but technically valid
[07:04] <axle> sounds good, thanx
[07:04] <aphisone> I get the bootloader screen when I boot into the system regularly.
[07:04] <aphisone> WIGGMPk:  ^
[07:05] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: ok, I take it the card is an add on and not integrated?
[07:05] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: laptop
[07:05] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: ouch.. has the drivers EVER worked? the ATI drivers that is
[07:05] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: Toshiba Satellite S7901
[07:05] <aphisone> for the last 4 months
[07:06] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: any changes made before they "stopped" working
[07:06] <sauvin_> WIGGMPk, I fired up alsamixer and made sure everything there was turned up; does your 'sound properties' hit something else?
[07:06] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: I was changing configurations in the ATI catylist config app from the GUI
[07:07] <WIGGMPk> sauvin_: well alsamixer is just ALSA not pulseaudio..
[07:07] <ZachPruckowski> hi guys.  I'm trying to set up Ubuntu in a VM, and the networking isn't working.  I have the network adapter working, and I can ping stuff on my lan.  How do I Ubuntu "hey, this is the router.  It connects to the whole wide Interwebs"!
[07:07] <sauvin_> Is there a command line equivalent for pulse?
[07:07] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: the screen started acting funny and at reboot the system was doing this
[07:07] <ZachPruckowski> err, "how do I tell Ubuntu"
[07:08] <Rabbitbunny> sauvin_: That happens to me all the time, reboot cures it.
[07:08] <sauvin_> !@#$!@%@!#$
[07:08] <sauvin_> This is why I ditched Ubuntu LAST time.
[07:08] <Rabbitbunny> ZachPruckowski: Set the gateway, or the DNS.
[07:08] <Rabbitbunny> Yeah, it still happens.
[07:08] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: except for the fact that the black screen had dispixlated colored lines at the top
[07:09] <ZachPruckowski> Rabbit - what do I put in for -net in my route command?
[07:09] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: did you install the drivers via jockety-gtk (are you using GNOME)?
[07:09] <sauvin_> kk, well, this is one lappie gonna hafta remain a Windows machine until plan B presents itself. Either Jaunty Jackalope, or this lappie, or *both*, are just too broken to mess with.
[07:09] <Rabbitbunny> ZachPruckowski: no idea.
[07:10] <ZachPruckowski> route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> gw <IP_ADDRESS> eth1 set up my LAN
[07:11] <ZachPruckowski> but *.*.*.* doesn't work
[07:11] <Rabbitbunny> ZachPruckowski: Why are you using route?
[07:11] <ZachPruckowski> err, nvm.  <IP_ADDRESS> with a netmask of <IP_ADDRESS> works
[07:12] <ZachPruckowski> because that was mentioned in the ifconfig man page?
[07:12] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: I am using GNOME... and I can't be sure if I remember how I installed them... I think I just installed from sysnaptic and the system drivers app
[07:12] <Rabbitbunny> ZachPruckowski: there's a text file, /etc/networking or something.
[07:12] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: can you get to a TTL or a terminal of any kind?
[07:13] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: I boot into single user mode
[07:13] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: what version of ubuntu we dealing with here?
[07:13] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: 9.04 Desktop
[07:14] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: fully up to date
[07:14] <syntex> Has anyone had any experience with dual-booting xp and ubuntu?
[07:14] <aphisone> syntex: yes
[07:15] <aphisone> syntex: there is an application to install dual-boot Ubuntu from Windows
[07:15] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: man I wish you remember how you installed them.. from the restricted drivers manager or from ATI's website?
[07:15] <syntex> Well, I just tried to  create my dual-boot (which worked). However, I couldn't discover how to install Ubuntu onto the 2nd partition made by XP.
[07:15] <aphisone> syntex: wubi http://wubi-installer.org/
[07:16] <syntex> So instead of having them on 2 seperate logical drives, Ubuntu merged them both onto one full NTFS partition.
[07:16] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: that makes 3 of us
[07:16] <aphisone> syntex: can you boot into both of them?
[07:17] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: alright.. well lets just try and remove this "sudo apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx"
[07:17] <syntex> Yes I can.
[07:17] <syntex> aphisone: However, I would like to have them on 2 seperate 20GB logical drives as opposed to sharing a 40Gb NTFS.
[07:18] <aphisone> syntex: okay... if you boot into windows, can you remove everything that was installed for ubuntu?
[07:19] <syntex> aphisone: I haven't looked completely. However, I can't see any Linux-orintated files when I boot into XP.
[07:19] <Gnea> aphisone: sorry about that, any luck yet?
[07:19] <aphisone> Gnea: not at all... lol :(
[07:20] <aphisone> syntex: how did you do the install
[07:20] <WIGGMPk> Gnea: im trying to have aphisone remove the ATI driver (along with the config file) and reinstall
[07:20] <NeXstaR> heya all...
[07:20] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: did that work ?
[07:20] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: I am removing now
[07:20] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: done
[07:20] <Gnea> WIGGMPk: ok
[07:21] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: after thats finished run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[07:21] <syntex> aphisone: I installed XP first, I did a 20GB partition. After it finished installing, I installed Ubuntu 9 off the LiveCD. I choose to install them side-by-side as I couldn't find out how to choose my 2nd partition to install on.
[07:21] <syntex> aphisone: I left my 2nd partition as raw.
[07:21] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: after that.. "sudo apt-get install build-essential cdbs fakeroot dh-make debhelper debconf libstdc++5 dkms"
[07:21] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: ^ should already be installed but hey..
[07:21] <Rabbitbunny> Okay, I did a dumb thing and I can't figure out how to fix it. My files are owned by user:root, they're chmod 700, and they're on an external FAT32. I need user:user and 755. What do I do?
[07:22] <valley> syntex: When I install xp and ubuntu to dual boot I use xp's partitioner to make it's own small partition leaving the rest of the harddrive blank, then I install ubuntu from cd using it's partitioner to make 2 gigs for SWAP space and the rest of the free space for an ext3 partition that holds ubuntu. No need to tell it about windows, it will sense it and add it to GRUB as a selection when booting
[07:22] <NeXstaR> how to make a partition on existing hdd of 40gb running ubuntu... resize etc ?
[07:22] <axle> boot to live disk and run gparted
[07:22] <valley> syntex: you have to make sure every partition is delected except for the xp partition when you start with the ubuntu installer
[07:22] <grawity> Rabbitbunny: If the drive's in /etc/fstab, add fmask=0133,dmask=22,uid=1000,gid=1000
[07:22] <ZachPruckowski> thank you very much for your help
[07:22] <syntex> valley: So, I don't do any partioning in xp. I do it all in Ubuntu?
[07:23] <Gnea> Rabbitbunny: don't use FAT32
[07:23] <valley> syntex: yes, except for telling xp to make it's own partition
[07:23] <grawity> Rabbitbunny: er, correction. fmask=0133,dmask=022,uid=1000,gid=1000
[07:23] <valley> syntex: the rest should be UNPARTITIONED
[07:23] <grawity> Rabbitbunny: and yeah, don't use FAT
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> oh god dont use fat
[07:24] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: 8 newly installed... hrmm
[07:24] <Rabbitbunny> Well, I didn't know there was a difference, and it let me put files on there...
[07:24] <Gnea> Rabbitbunny: FAT32 serves only one purpose in the unix world: storage.
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> snezze near your pc is bad enough to cause corruption
[07:24] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: maybe fakeroot and dependancies
[07:24] <syntex> valley: Ah okay. What option do I choose when installing Ubuntu to assign it to the unpartitioned space?
[07:24] <NeXstaR> i have a laptop running ubuntu with a 40gb hdd, how can i resize it 50 /50 , and install xp on the made partition ?
[07:24] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: now just "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx"
[07:24] <grawity> Rabbitbunny: FAT is quite an old filesystem, is unreliable. If you need Windows compatibility, NTFS is much better.
[07:24] <axle> nextstar, boot to ubuntu live disk and run gparted
[07:24] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: take notice if it says its updating xorg.conf
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> NeXstaR: when you come to partitioning for XP tell it to use 20Gb of the space and leave the rest unpartitioned
[07:25] <Rabbitbunny> grawity: There's like 800gb on there now. too late to change.
[07:25] <Rabbitbunny> It should have told me that before I put files on it.
[07:25] <grawity> Rabbitbunny: 800 GB? Didn't think FAT32 even supports sizes like that :|
[07:25] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: m4, autoconf, autotools-dev, automake, fdupes, intltool, cdbs, dh-make
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: fat32 isnt hugely good as storage due to max file limits
[07:25] <valley> syntex: I usually do the manual paritition management. Tell it to make 2 gigabyes of SWAP in a partition. Then tell it to use the rest of the free space for an ext3 parition
[07:25] <Gnea> Rabbitbunny: holy.... did you make a 1TB FAT32 partition?
[07:25] <NeXstaR> axle and ActionParsnip ubuntu is already installed on my laptop's hdd , whole 40gb is used how to resize ?
[07:25] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: on USB drives, it's great
[07:25] <Rabbitbunny> I don't want to say yes...
[07:26] <grawity> Gnea: NTFS!
[07:26] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: for compile from source (thats plan B)
[07:26] <valley> syntex: I'm confident that telling it to use automatically use the free space though would work
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: true but you cant store a dvd iso ;)
[07:26] <Gnea> Rabbitbunny: and yet, you've already alluded to it.. just admit it and we can move forward :)
[07:26] <grawity> Rabbitbunny: Anyway, just don't forget that FAT32 has a limit of 4 GB per file. Might cause problems later.
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> NeXstaR: boot to live cd and use gparted
[07:26] <valley> syntex: A benifit of doing it manually though is the option of using EXT4 instead of ext3
[07:26] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: yeah, too many restrictions
[07:26] <axle> nextstar: boot from your ubuntu live cd, then run sudo gparted, you might be able to do it from your system but im not sure
[07:26] <syntex> valley: So when doing it manually, I can select the Unportitioned space? Will it be hd0,1? Or something like that?
[07:26] <Rabbitbunny> grawity: Thanks, btw.
[07:26] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: I do compile from source... I've never heard of those
[07:26] <WIGGMPk> grawity: WILL is the proper word there.. will cause problems later lol
[07:27] <grawity> WIGGMPk: True.
[07:27] <syntex> valley: Sorry, I'm very new to Linux and I'm not too familiar with the way Linux works.
[07:27] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: well maby a couple of them
[07:27] <Gnea> Rabbitbunny: if you've got another drive, you could always clone it and repartition... might take awhile if you don't have it yet, though
[07:27] <Gnea> Rabbitbunny: s/repartition/reformat/g
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> NeXstaR: you'll also have to reinstall grub as the xp boot loader will overwrite grub on the MBR
[07:27] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: *shrug* did you install that last one "xorg-driver-fglrx" yet? after that, I would do a restart and see what happens
[07:27] <valley> syntex: It is done graphically I believe: you don"t need to know about hd0,1 or anything
[07:27] <grawity> Rabbitbunny: Manufacturers use FAT32 on new disks because they don't want customers complaining "I can't use it on my Mac/Linux/whatever! :("
[07:28] <NeXstaR> ActionParsnip axle .... wouldn't the gparted affect my ubuntu partition ?
[07:28] <axle> there is no easy way to repartition a LVM partition encrypted with LUKS eh? it has to be done all manually?
[07:28] <syntex> valley: Thank you very much. :)
[07:28] <valley> syntex: I was in your shoes about a year ago; you have my appreciation though; I wish more people would take the steps you are taking
[07:28] <ashish> hi
[07:28] <axle> nextstar: yes it would resize it, if you want it too
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> NeXstaR: it will make it smaller, make sure your backups are rrecent incase something goes wrong. Linux comes with zero warranty
[07:28] <ashish> i am ashish
[07:28] <ashish> from india
[07:29] <NeXstaR> ActionParsnip: where can i get decent and reliable software for backups ?
[07:29] <syntex> valley: Thank you. I didn't actually know how user friendly linux was until I did an Install of openSUSE 10 at tafe. Then, I decided to try it out at home.:)
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> !backup | NeXstaR
[07:29] <grawity> ashish: Hi, this is #ubuntu, the Ubuntu support channel. If you have a question - ask. If you just want to chat - #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:29] <axle> go ubottu!!
[07:29] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: my video card is a ATI RADEON
[07:29] <NeXstaR> thanks axle and ActionParsnip...
[07:29] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: is that the right driver
[07:29] <axle> nextstar: you probably dont need to back up
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> syntex: i thought mndrake was fine, i find ubuntu equally fine
[07:30] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: its the same one you removed
[07:30] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: yah I know... but is that the right one?
[07:30] <axle> nextstar: its just reccomended, i've never had a problem, unless you have critical data on it
[07:30] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: second
[07:30] <valley> syntex: I started with openSUSE as well, then moved to Ubuntu; Since then I've gone through more than I care to list; Ubuntu is still my favorite for ease of use
[07:30] <syntex> ActionParsnip: My only experience with Linux was slackware. Ha. I thought they were all like that!
[07:31] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: let me rephrase... dose that driver handle the ATI Radeon... lol
[07:31] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: well which ATI Radeon do you have?
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> syntex: nar i went to gentooo after a year then back to then, mandriva. Then tried Ubuntu and thought its an easy life. I'll tweak for speed
[07:32] <syntex> valley: I actually liked openSUSE and loved how snappy it was in comparison to XP. After that didn't install on my home system for some reason, I did some research and narrowed it down to Ubuntu or Mint.
[07:32] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: it doesnt work with the Radeon X1300 but these are the Ubuntu/Canonical drivers
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> syntex: both are ubuntu based and Linux so are nearly the same OS in every way
[07:33] <syntex> valley: Thank you for all your help. I'm going to go and attempt to dual-boot my system for a 2nd time. :)
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> gl
[07:33] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: ATI Radeon HD 3100 Graphics
[07:34] <syntex> ActionParsnip: Thank you. :)
[07:34] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: well Synaptics says this about the package: "Video driver for the ATI Radeon and FireGL graphics accelerators."
[07:34] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: hrmm... ok
[07:35] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: well lets install this, restart and see were we are.. than if you need, I can help you install the ATI drivers from ATI.. meaning manually installing them
[07:35] <aphisone> and to think I'm going to a LUG tomorrow night and probably doing a discussion
[07:36] <axle> can i feed my mogwai? it's 1:30am and he won't go to sleep
[07:36] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: yah... done... I appreciate your time
[07:36] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: dont worry about it.. I have insomnia
[07:36] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: and ATI is a pain in the a$$
[07:37] <surgy> hi
[07:37] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: not to sound selfish... I don't have insomnia... I have to actually go into the Tampa office and work with the owner of a non-profit this morning... lol
[07:37] <surgy> can someone help me diagnose a sound issue im having?
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> WIGGMPk: +1
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> surgy: whats it doing / not doing
[07:38] <surgy> nothing, but when i turn my physicle volume nob on my subwoofer and press the test button in /system/pref/sound it makes fusy sound
[07:39] <suigeneris> xrandr --output VGA --mode 1024×768 --rate 60 says xrandr: cannot find mode 1024×768 but xrandr lists it. how come?
[07:39] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: ouch.. I guess your gonna be dragging tomorrow lol
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> surgy: if you run: sudo lshw -C sound
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> surgy: you will see your sound chip, you can then websearch from there. do NOT paste the output here
[07:39] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: doing a secondary reboot to verify the reboot... wasn't paying attention to see if it actually did a reboot
[07:40] <WIGGMPk> lol
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> surgy: if you want us to see, use a pastebin
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> surgy: http://pastebin.com
[07:41] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: weired ... It halted at the boot splash graphic and the graphic is spanned across the top inch of the screen 8 times interlaced
[07:41] <shazbotmcnasty> I've got my xbox hooked up to the same monitor as my computer, and I was a' wondrin' how to switch over from computer to xbox without having to power down one or the other.
[07:41] <surgy> http://pastebin.com/m33bff24a
[07:41] <dsdeiz> !info bootgraph
[07:41] <dsdeiz> !info bootrecord
[07:41] <shazbotmcnasty> It'd be awesome if I could just hit a switch, or something....
[07:41] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: okay, mabey two inches
[07:41] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: sooo.... whats your saying is......... it didnt work?
[07:42] <dsdeiz> arg, what's that app again that
[07:42] <Jackiz> is it possible to install windows with unetbootin?
[07:42] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: yes... in not so many words... :)
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> dsdeiz: apt-cache search boot record
[07:42] <bastidrazor> Jackiz: technically you don't uninstall an OS. you wipe the partitoin.
[07:43] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: can you check /etc/X11/xorg.conf to see what driver is listed?
[07:43] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: and how much time am I working with here?
[07:43] <Jackiz> bastidrazor: i know. why?
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> surgy: ok let me websearch
[07:43] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: hopping that the way it messed up was helpful in desyphering the solution... hopping
[07:43] <shazbotmcnasty> I don't understand your answer bastidrazor...
[07:43] <shazbotmcnasty> :/
[07:44] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: don't worry about time... it would be nice to get sleep ... but if needs be I got a whole case of Brain Toniq [[Insert Ad Here]] lol
[07:44] <WIGGMPk> lol
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> surgy: is your system fully updated?
[07:45] <reskljgjil> http://www.thaiadpoint.com/tap8.1/bin/redir.php?p=2022&l=1341&u_id=363435
[07:45] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: actually I do recommend *name removed* drink... you should try a can some time
[07:46] <Lino> I am having problems with my Wireless, can I get some help please
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> surgy: try: sudo rmmod snd_had_intel; sleep 5; sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Lino: run: sudo lshw -C network | grep product      and websearch for the wireless chip you are shown
[07:47] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: uhh... there is no driver listed
[07:47] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: not even vesa?
[07:47] <surgy> ERROR: Module snd_had_intel does not exist in /proc/modules
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> surgy: ok thats fine
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> surgy: what is the output of: ls_release -c
[07:48] <prince_jammys> was 'had' instead of 'hda' intentional typo?
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> prince_jammys: bah
[07:48] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: http://pastebin.com/f22dc0205
[07:48] <Lino> I did that it said to install black listed driver
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> surgy: : sudo rmmod snd_hda_intel; sleep 5; sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> prince_jammys: thats for the spot
[07:49] <surgy> sudo: ls_release: command not found
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> surgy: lsb_release -c
[07:49] <prince_jammys> ActionParsnip's fingers grew today.
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> prince_jammys: looks like it, anyone got a keyboard wand?
[07:49] <prince_jammys> hehe
[07:50] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: dose that look to you as if it can't detect my screen correctly??
[07:50] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: weird, put Driver "fglrx" in there
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> i'm off to tape matchsticks to my cuticles
[07:50] <reskljgjil> http://www.thaiadpoint.com/tap8.1/bin/redir.php?p=2022&l=1341&u_id=363435
[07:50] <Atomic_> !it
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> surgy: and what is the output of: uname -r        please
[07:50] <surgy> jaunty....
[07:50] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: no, its just the generic default xorg.conf file.. its basically the same as xorg.conf.failsafe without the Driver "vesa" line
[07:51] <surgy> 2.6.28-15-generic
[07:51] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: fglrx, check
[07:52] <|-Gobi-|> Do you guys have any experience to 2.6.30-9?
[07:52] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: now try and restart x "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[07:52] <|-Gobi-|> *on
[07:52] <wizzo50> How do you join a channel in freenode?
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> surgy: awesome, let me see what I can find
[07:52] <valley> wizzo50: '/join channel'
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> wizzo50: /j 3<channel name>
[07:52] <leaf-sheep> ActionParsnip: Do you know if it's safe to dd something to sshfs-mounted partition?
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> oop
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> wizzo50: e.g. /j #kubuntu
[07:53] <aphisone> I'm in single user mode... should I just exit out of this shell and continue boot, or reboot
[07:53] <|-Gobi-|> Or does anyone know where is the best place to ask about 2.6.30-9 related questions?
[07:53] <DigitalDarkness>  Anyone know why #ubuntu-chat is invite only?
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: should be fine
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> how do I make ubottu not hide the other modules she finds?
[07:54] <Lino> I am still trying to get my driver to work for my wireless card.
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> the (and 8 others) is quite annoying
[07:54] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: sure.. but maybe reboot just incase
[07:54] <histo> I need a way of accomplishing some file manipulation. I have a directory of a bunch of files which are old. I have another directory with updated versions and additional data. I want to copy the updated ones that match only the old ones by name to a new destination.
[07:55] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: reboot, check
[07:56] <carmen> hola
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> surgy: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-2.6.28-15-generic
[07:56] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: this is promising... getting good graphics on the boot screen
[07:56] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: dont get my hopes up lol
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> surgy: also make sure your system is fully updated with: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:56] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: ouch... Failed to start the X server
[07:56] <surgy> yes sir
[07:56] <surgy> and that should get er done?
[07:57] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: could I trouble you for a look at the log file?
[07:57] <MeXTuX> I need to set up a new server. The processor is an Intel Core 2 Quad (2.4 GHz). Which one is the right for me?? 32 bit or 64 bit. Tnx in advance
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> surgy: possibly
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> MeXTuX: depends on what core2 quad you have?
[07:58] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: already in process... http://pastebin.com/ff07c27a sorry for the delay... typing by hand
[07:59] <jess12345> hello anyone can assit with genome manager ?
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> jess12345: theres a genome manager?
[08:00] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: try this one for me "sudo aticonfig --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf --tls=1" and restart X
[08:00] <wizzo50> ActionParsnip: What is the # 3 for?
[08:00] <jess12345> well something like that - i did an apt-get update and restarted and then ubuntu does not work
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> wizzo50: missed shift and im on a US keyboard, so it spells doom for all
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> jess12345: ok, what happens when you boot?
[08:01] <jess12345> dpkg-recongigure -phigh xserver does not work
[08:01] <jess12345> i get into command line ubuntu but not desktop
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> jess12345: ok so if you log in as yourself and type: startx    what does it say?
[08:01] <wizzo50> ActionParsnip: On this, /j 3<channel name>?
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> wizzo50: yes, 3 is # on a US keyboard
[08:01] <MeXTuX> It's Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Quad-Core Processor, 2.40 GHz, 8M L2 Cache, LGA 775
[08:02] <wizzo50> oh, ok
[08:02] <jess12345> reconfigre x gets me "cant locate posix.pm....begin failed compilation aborted at /usr/sgre....template.pm line 17
[08:02] <tomas1> hey guys
[08:02] <tomas1> i was wondering is there an email application that lets me create email newsletter via HTML
[08:02] <jess12345> ActionParsnip: if i do startx i get a blank screent and ctrl alt f1 does not get me back to command line
[08:03] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: bombed out... Please run 'aticonfig --initial' first or modify your configuration file manually and run aticonfig again.
[08:03] <Hitman32> Hi
[08:03] <MeXTuX> But don't know which Ubuntu server version use (32 bit or 64 bit)
[08:03] <jess12345> ActionParsnip: i have also tried to go back a few versions using escape on load (gives me three versions including one safe mode but none seem to work)
[08:03] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: how bout "sudo aticonfig --initial -f" then try to restart X
[08:03] <bastidrazor> MeXTuX: the processor supports 64bit.
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> MeXTuX: looks like it is 64bit but 64bit CPUs can run 32bit OSes
[08:03] <Hitman32> I need the code to install extra program for my new ubuntu..
[08:03] <jess12345> ActionParsnip: i am connected to the internet so i was wondering if i could do a reinstall without losing my documents
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> jess12345: ok let me websearch
[08:04] <Hitman32> apt-get install ??????
[08:04] <jess12345> Hitman32: will that kill my documents ?
[08:04] <vikas> Hitman32, what code do u want to install
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> jess12345: you sure its, /usr/sgre ?
[08:04] <Hitman32> extra program
[08:05] <Hitman32> for my new Ubuntu
[08:05] <jess12345> i can postfix the error if you can show me how to do it ?
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: what extra program do you want?
[08:05] <Hitman32> I install ubuntu today
[08:05] <MeXTuX> So, is the 64 bit version the best choice for me??
[08:05] <Hitman32> like jave and flash
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: use add/remove programs
[08:05] <tomas1> any one know of an email client that let you send out HTML emails
[08:05] <Hitman32> no no
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:05] <vikas> Hitman32, then use sudo aptitude install <programname>
[08:05] <iruan> Hitman32: Doesn't ubuntu 64-bit have problems with java and flash?
[08:05] <Hitman32> is it's
[08:06] <histo> iruan: no
[08:06] <Lino> how do i get this to instal
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> iruan: none
[08:06] <Hitman32> yes it's *
[08:06] <jess12345> ActionParsnip: cant locate posix.pm in @INC (@INC contains : /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share(
[08:06] <Lino> sudo apt-get install cabextract
[08:06] <Hitman32> thnkx
[08:06] <glicks> hey does evolution support the ability to interact with google calandeR?
[08:06] <vikas> Hitman32, u will get deb packages for java and flash
[08:06] <glicks> does any email client have that ability?
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> jess12345: ive not heard of /usr/sgre
[08:06] <Hitman32> I don't thing so
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> glicks: i doubt they all will
[08:07] <Hitman32> for that... sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:07] <jess12345> ActionParsnip: /usr share sorry
[08:07] <glicks> hmm maybe ill have to write such a client
[08:07] <jess12345> ActionParsnip: typing too fast
[08:07] <Dday> When is Ubuntu going to be easier to use than Windows?
[08:07] <tomas1> i used one on windows before coming accross to ubuntu now i cant find one
[08:07] <wizzo50> ActionParsnip: Do you have to buy music on Audacious in order to play the music on Audacious?
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:07] <tomas1> i find ubuntu easy then windows in every way
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> wizzo50: not sure, i dont use it
[08:07] <Hitman32> Ok
[08:07] <glicks> so no current email application supports google calender?
[08:07] <carr> has anybody ever got a haupauge wintv tuner to work in ubuntu
[08:07] <bastidrazor> Dday: when you decide to take time and learn how ubuntu works.
[08:07] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: restart, check
[08:07] <miguelonnnn> hey all!
[08:07] <Lino> sudo apt-get install cabextract
[08:07] <Lino> how do i get this to install
[08:07] <jess12345> ActionParsnip: will sudo apt-get-install gnome-core work ?
[08:08] <Arwee> hi all
[08:08] <Dday> I've been using it for 5 month bastidrazor
[08:08] <Dday> It has no way near the ease of us as Windows
[08:08] <jess12345> ActionParsnip: or is there something else that may assist ?
[08:08] <wizzo50> What is the best music player that has an equalizer with it?
[08:08] <glicks> you dont think so Dday ?
[08:08] <miguelonnnn> please, do you know if there's any ubuntu default bandwith counter?
[08:08] <glicks> i dont find that at all
[08:08] <glicks> i guess you just have to get used to the Unix way of doing things
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> jess12345: you could try it, you could install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[08:08] <miguelonnnn> i wanna count the traffic cause my mother pays for each mb, so i need to count them
[08:08] <Dday> I don't believe Ubuntu is suitable for the mass market yet
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> Dday: thats fine, you can believe what you wish
[08:09] <Dday> And i consider myself reasonably tech savvy, doing a few common tasks in Ubuntu is a pain
[08:09] <glicks> at first i thought windows was easier too but then my brain adjusted to the unix way, now when i have to use windows, im like "ugh! how can people get work done in this enviornment"
[08:09] <glicks> especially for development
[08:09] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: I would kiss you but, you sound like your a dude so <HI5>
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> Dday: thats fine too, however this is NOT the channel for it
[08:09] <wizzo50> ActionParsnip: What is the best music player that has an equalizer in the program with it?
[08:09] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: haha... I take it we are good to go?
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> wizzo50: there is no best
[08:09] <fredl> hello. I found a video with my kids in it on a news site, http://www.omroepflevoland.nl/Nieuws/62604/eerste-schooldag-voor-montessorischool-muziekwijk
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> wizzo50: best is an opinion so is not concrete
[08:10] <fredl> is there any way to save that movie from firefox?
[08:10] <tomas1> i use rythmbox
[08:10] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: I'm going to make a backup of this xorg.conf as xorg.conf.verify.good
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> wizzo50: try a few, see which you think is best
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> !player | wizzo50
[08:10] <Zachk18> yo
[08:10] <jess12345> ActionParsnip: did nothing - 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, 1 not upgraded
[08:10] <miguelonnnn> please, tell me :S
[08:10] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: would you like to see the xorg.conf
[08:10] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: sometimes the aticonfig doesnt use the xorg.conf so you might need to back that up too
[08:10] <Lino> sudo apt-get install cabextract  every timei run this scrip i keep getting an error E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:10] <Lino> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:10] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: yes plez
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> wizzo50: best is an evaluation of a product compared to your requirements. As all user requirements are different, there is no universal best
[08:11] <miguelonnnn> i just need to know if there's any bandwith (Mb transfer counter) monitor
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> jess12345: sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop
[08:11] <fredl> is there anyway to save the video in http://www.omroepflevoland.nl/Nieuws/62604/eerste-schooldag-voor-montessorischool-muziekwijk ?
[08:11] <wizzo50> ActionParsnip: ok
[08:11] <miguelonnnn> well, i know they are i mean if there's any default in ubuntu
[08:11] <bastidrazor> miguelonnnn: you could install netspeed_applet and then add that to your panel and right click then device details.. it'll show the bandwidth up and down since boot.
[08:11] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: how would I check what conf file X is using
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> miguelonnnn: you can run ifconfig
[08:11] <miguelonnnn> nice that's just what i want
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> miguelonnnn: it will say how much data has en RX and TX
[08:11] <miguelonnnn> rx and tx? what is that?
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> s/en/been
[08:12] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: well lemme check the xorg.conf file..
[08:12] <vikas> miguelonnnn, check this site
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> miguelonnnn: rx = recieved, tx = transmitted
[08:12] <vikas> miguelonnnn, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-linux.html
[08:12] <jess12345> ActionParsnip: errors as follows debconf : Perl may be uncofigured (Cant locate io/file.pm
[08:12] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: im not sure with ATI's never used one.. but you can force aticonfig to use any changes from xorg.conf
[08:12] <miguelonnnn> my mother's got a 3G usb modem, and she does pay money for each mb, so i need a simple tool for her hehe
[08:13] <vikas> miguelonnnn, the link i gave u have number of simple programs that u can use
[08:13] <miguelonnnn> ok , so netspeed applet and ifconfig great! thanks both you saved my computer from being reinstalled xp haha
[08:13] <Hitman32> أه
[08:13] <Hitman32> Hi
[08:13] <miguelonnnn> yeah, i just wanted to know if there is one embedded
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> miguelonnnn: there are monitoring tools, I'd write a script but thats me
[08:13] <Hitman32> guys
[08:13] <miguelonnnn> so i don't need to install third party out of distro default programs
[08:13] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: Xorg.0.log says that it's the xorg.conf file
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> jess12345: you need to find out why the file is corrupted / missing or erroneously expected
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> miguelonnnn: all apps are 3rd party y design
[08:14] <miguelonnnn> but now i know ifconfig can make the trick, and for her i'll definitely install that which you said, i need just what you said it does
[08:14] <bastidrazor> miguelonnnn: just remember both options only tell you how much MB has been tranferred since boot. when you reboot it will start over.
[08:14] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: ok, however you could run "sudo aticonfig --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf --tls=1" to force it look in xorg.conf (sometimes people need to do this, but not will all cases)
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> miguelonnnn: try ifconfig <device name> | grep -i tx
[08:14] <miguelonnnn> duno about scripting haha i swear one day i will haha
[08:15] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: that's what you had me do... isn't it?
[08:15] <fredl> is there anyway to save the video in http://www.omroepflevoland.nl/Nieuws/62604/eerste-schooldag-voor-montessorischool-muziekwijk ?
[08:15] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: right, but it complained that aticonfig doesnt have a file yet.. so we created one via "sudo aticonfig --initial -f"
[08:15] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: I do dule-screen this laptop all the time at both my offices
[08:15] <Hitman32> I install debian in my PC,, and when I boot it's start normally , but when the kernal fished boot and it's going to start ,,it's display "Input not supported "
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> !debian | Hitman32
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: debian is supported in #debian
[08:16] <Hitman32> Ok
[08:16] <glicks> hey what version of thuderbird is in the ubuntu repos? Im looking but i cant tell it only has the ubuntu package version
[08:16] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: im not good with dual screen's
[08:16] <Hitman32> sorry
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> !info thunderbird
[08:16] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: doesnt the catalyst center do that for you?
[08:16] <miguelonnnn> well, that's no problem i'll tell her to write in a paper the total sum of transfered data any time she stops the modem, so after reconnecting she has the last session numbers
[08:16] <glicks> never mind
[08:16] <glicks> :)
[08:17] <tomas1> another question is there a way to open more then one windows application using wine
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> glicks: or you can use: apt-cache policy thunderbird
[08:17] <jess12345> ActionParsnip: ok the error seems to be with posix.pm anyone know what this is or does ? I even get it on sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:17] <miguelonnnn> well, thank you all, i'm leaving to make a few tests, see you soonnn
[08:17] <miguelonnnn> have a nice day
[08:17] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: yes... I was just saying
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> jess12345: not sure, sorry
[08:17] <glicks> man, foss software is soo great
[08:17] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: oh.. well im pretty much at an end of knowledge here.. lol
[08:18] <miguelonnnn> whatt?? tomas1, are you saying that wine can just open 1 window at time?
[08:18] <glicks> i solute the people that make it possible
[08:18] <miguelonnnn> that's terrible! i thought i could open multiple at once :S
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> tomas1: sure, press alt+f2 and type: wine ~/.wine/drive_c/etc/etc/run.exe
[08:18] <fredl> is there anyway to save the video in http://www.omroepflevoland.nl/Nieuws/62604/eerste-schooldag-voor-montessorischool-muziekwijk ?
[08:18] <tomas1> miguelonnnn i have tryed opening two aps at once and they dont work
[08:18] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: I'm gonna test it out here is the xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/f2ef47caa
[08:18] <miguelonnnn> well please try what ActionParsnip says, and report back if it works please (:
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> tomas1: or whatever you wanna run. If you launch from cli, you can add &  to the end of the command and you will get control of the terminal back, wine also has an ubuntu menu item which you can use to launch multiple apps
[08:19] <bastidrazor> tomas1: don't open them at the same time. open the first then the second. each a seperate command.
[08:19] <vikas> fredl, you need to find the link for that video in source page and use 'wget <filename> to pull that file
[08:19] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: awesome.. well im glad you have a desktop now
[08:19] <theoros> fredl: refresh the page bypassing cache, start the video, let it play to the end, then check /var/tmp
[08:19] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: thank you
[08:19] <bastidrazor> !cookie | WIGGMPk .. that took nearly 2 hours.
[08:19] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: thank you, it was fun
[08:20] <WIGGMPk> HA
[08:20] <vikas> fredl, i cannot see such link, javascript is used, so i guess there is no easy way for that
[08:20] <fredl> vikas - tried that but can't find which is the source.
[08:20] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: that is honestly the first time someone has told me that... where are you from?
[08:20] <fredl> theoros - I'll try that!
[08:20] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: Pennsylvannia US
[08:21] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: currently in FL from CA
[08:21] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: hey... this is working and I have time to sleep... you rock...
[08:21] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: Cali is fun, for a lil (no offense) too buy for me though
[08:21] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: gnite
[08:22] <WIGGMPk> err busy not buy
[08:22] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: I can't sleep now... lol... adrenalin is pumping... half to relax with a game of gewled
[08:22] <WIGGMPk> lol gridwars2 FTW
[08:23] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: I lived there 18 years before joining the governments elite... lol... I think it's a hell hole
[08:24] <WIGGMPk> aphisone: the "governments elite" ? are we talking the terminator?
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> !ot
[08:24] <aphisone> WIGGMPk: lol... the Navy
[08:24] <fredl> theoros - don't find any flash file in /var/tmp. Emptied the cache, reloaded the page, let it play through the end and checked /var/tmp
 try /tmp/
[08:25] <theoros> fredl: which browser?
[08:25] <theoros> oh yeah it may be /tmp
 reload the the page, watch /tmp/ folder for growing file size
[08:25] <fredl> firefox 3.0.13
[08:25] <theoros> you should in all likelihood find an .flv file
[08:25] <theoros> it just may not have .flv on the end
 no file extension at all, u just have to watch the file size and rename the eextension
[08:25] <mator> hello
[08:26] <fredl> I did file * in /tmp
[08:26] <theoros> idyllic: that really is hard to read as a tab-complete
[08:26] <fredl> only have directories there.
[08:26] <mator> can someone test their ubuntu 9.04 x86 for "iostat -n" stack smashing ?
[08:26] <theoros> fredl: did you have /tmp and /var/tmp open as you refreshed?
[08:26] <fredl> did find /tmp -exec file {} \;
[08:27] <Zachk18> what up?
[08:27] <Zachk18> hello ya'll
[08:27] <theoros> just keep both folders open and watch for it to pop into existence (or not)
[08:27] <Zachk18> why is my text gray when i type?
[08:27] <fredl> theoros - nope I hadn't. Let me try again.
[08:27] <Zachk18> in this chat i mean
[08:27] <theoros> Zachk18: that's a question concerning your IRC client.
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> fredl: if you want to download youtube style files theres youtube-dl
[08:28] <mator> can someone test iostat please
[08:28] <Zachk18> theoros: like the message you just sent me is red...why?
[08:28] <theoros> Zachk18: your IRC client makes it that way.
 if ur firefox cache is large enough, the file will store in /home/$USER/.mozilla/firefox/<ur profile>/Cache
[08:28] <Zachk18> ok
[08:28] <theoros> Zachk18: #xchat
[08:28] <Zachk18> theoros: thanks
[08:28] <fredl> ActionParsnip, I'm not sure if it's youtube style though.
[08:28] <mator> can someone read me ? :)
[08:28] <fredl> idyllic, lemme check that first then as this clip isn't so large so it might fit
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> fredl: i'd give it a shot, its free to try
[08:29] <fredl> definitely ActionParsnip, tnx.
[08:29] <tux86> or try an firefoxaddon - video downloder
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> mator: I use karmic, sorry
[08:29] <Zachk18> i use jaunty
[08:29] <Zachk18> it rocks
[08:29] <Rabbitbunny> So.. I've added a third party repo, and the gpg part won't work. I don't have pubring.gpg What is it and where do I get it?
[08:29] <mator> Zachk18, jaunty is 9.04 ?
[08:29] <aphisone> Gnight Yall
[08:29] <Zachk18> yes
[08:29] <mator> Zachk18, do you have sysstat package installed ?
[08:29] <Zachk18> what is that?
[08:30] <mator> a package ?
[08:30] <Zachk18> for what exactly
[08:30] <mator> sysstat - isn't it obvious ?
[08:30] <fredl> hmm in my .firefox cache I have AC1E688Fd01: Macromedia Flash data (compressed), version 6
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: if you run: dpkg -l | grep syss    what does it output?
[08:30] <Zachk18> why do you want me to run that
 can try rename it to fredl.flv
[08:31] <mator> Zachk18, for test, as i kindly asking you
[08:31] <histo> How can I copy files from one directory to another using a file list I have.
[08:31] <histo> ?
[08:31] <mator> histo, by using tar ?
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: mator whats to find out some output of some command. I'm not sure what it is but if you can run it and evaluate the output as not security threatening can you please provide him a pastebin of the output you get
[08:31] <fredl> idyllic, done. double clicked on it, movieplayer won't play it.
[08:31] <Zachk18> well i just don't run a command cause somebody asks me too
[08:31] <histo> mator: can you eloborate?
[08:32] <fredl> idyllic, should I use another player?
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: wise
[08:32] <fredl> mplayer doesn't do it either....
[08:32] <Zachk18> ActionParsnip: thank you
 how big the file size first?
[08:32] <fredl> idyllic, 110K
[08:32] <glicks> hey does anyone here use thunderbird? what happens when i am using gmail imap with it and i delete an email
[08:32] <RockClimber> trying to connect to internet from netbook via USB connection to windows mobile. I can ping the world, and I can SSH back to my broadband connection. But wget and firefox fail. Any ideas?
[08:32] <justin__> I cant get jaadu to work in wine it doesnt start up I have the vnc sever too can anyone help?????
[08:32] <glicks> what happens on the gmail server?
[08:32] <Zachk18> i use thunderbird
[08:33] <glicks> also, when i read a message in thunderbird, does it get marked at read on the gmail serveR?
[08:33] <fredl> idyllic, and it says on 'file test.flv': test.flv: Macromedia Flash data (compressed), version 6
[08:33] <Rabbitbunny> glicks: Those are both options.
 hmph, very unlikely a video file. How abt you clear the firefox cache first then relaod the page? Then watch ur cache folder.
[08:33] <glicks> Rabbitbunny, where do i set those
[08:33] <justin__> if someone can help me with jaadu stating message me please....
[08:33] <Zachk18> in gmail options
[08:33] <Rabbitbunny> glicks: In preferences, in thuindrbird.
[08:33] <fredl> idyllic, ok.
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: from: http://linux.die.net/man/1/iostat :The iostat command generates two types of reports, the CPU Utilization report and the Device Utilization report.
[08:34] <justin__> starting*
[08:34] <Zachk18> so it's a valid command ActionParsnip?
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> Rabbitbunny: can you provide a pastebin of the output you get please
[08:34] <mator> histo, tar have file list option, like "tar -T filenames.txt -cf - /copy/from | tar -C /copy/out -xf -"
[08:34] <Rabbitbunny> glicks: Yes, it should have also asked you when you setup IMAP access.
[08:34] <Rabbitbunny> ActionParsnip: Sure.
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> Zachk18: looks like some CPU probing thing
[08:34] <glicks> Rabbitbunny, what should have?
[08:34] <Zachk18> hmmm.....sounds a little fishy
[08:34] <mator> Zachk18, no need, thank you
[08:35] <mator> anyone else have ubuntu 9.04 ?
[08:35] <glicks> i dont see those options anywhere
[08:35] <krdyt> is it possible to install thunderbird on a drive i made with trucrypt so i can have an encrypted drive and encrypted email on it?
[08:35] <Zachk18> ah ok
[08:35] <Rabbitbunny> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/d790ac09f
[08:35] <justin__> can someone help me with a program called jaadu??
[08:35] <histo> mator: won't that compress them?
[08:35] <Zachk18> yes...if it's portable
[08:35] <krdyt> if what is portable
[08:35] <mator> histo, tar don't compress, untill you say it so (like -z command line option)
[08:35] <krdyt> i have encrypted mail on ubuntu but its not hidden
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Rabbitbunny: ok what is the output of: ls -la /home/desktop/.gnupg/pubring.gpg     you can paste it in here
[08:35] <Rabbitbunny> glicks: Just check you account options in GMail, and your preferences in Thunderbird. It's in there somewhere, I know I had to set it.
[08:36] <justin__> I also cant install java can anyone help with that??
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> !java | justin__
[08:36] <Rabbitbunny> ActionParsnip: -rw------- 1 root root 4128 2009-06-11 08:08 /home/desktop/.gnupg/pubring.gpg
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Rabbitbunny: bingo!
[08:36] <vikas> justin__, you can install java from repository
[08:36] <glicks> Rabbitbunny, yes, i get those options with POP
[08:36] <glicks> but not with imap
[08:36] <vikas> justin__, from package manager
[08:36] <fredl> idyllic, largest file in my cache is 132K after reloading.
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Rabbitbunny: have you been running gui apps with sudo, like sudo nautilus?
[08:37] <Rabbitbunny> ActionParsnip: That broke this too?!?
[08:37] <fredl> no... one's 123K, that most recent file is the 110K file again.
[08:37]  * Rabbitbunny broke everything today
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> Rabbitbunny: yes, this is why sudo is NOT for gui app, you will garbage ownerships just like you have now
 can pass me the link? i try on my side
[08:37] <glicks> ok my questions have been answered by reading the gmail readme
[08:37] <glicks> :)
[08:37] <caution> morning all
[08:37] <fredl> http://www.omroepflevoland.nl/Nieuws/62604/eerste-schooldag-voor-montessorischool-muziekwijk
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> Rabbitbunny: gksudo is for use with gui apps, sudo is ONLY for command line apps
[08:37] <fredl> it's only a short video.
[08:38] <fredl> so maybe 110K is right?
[08:38] <Rabbitbunny> ActionParsnip: I saw you tell someone that before... I think it's also what made the files on my external drive all messed up.
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> Rabbitbunny: you cant write to the file as its owned by root due to you running gui apps with sudo and garbageing your permissions
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> Rabbitbunny: this is exactly what i was meaning