[06:40] <korrx> Hi to all Users
[06:40] <bill57785> man
[06:41] <bill57785> I downloaded the binary for the installation
[06:41] <bill57785> for my distro
[06:41] <bill57785> but it won't run
[06:41] <bill57785> when I try to run it directly, it tells me permission denied
[06:41] <raiden> hmmm
[06:42] <raiden> did you do it under the root directory?
[06:43] <frankal> i can't play a video with kaffeine player, There were no decoders found to handle the stream
[06:43] <raiden> did you download all teh updates
[06:44] <raiden> the**
[06:44] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[06:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:44] <frankal> ok
[06:49] <pulaski> hello
[06:49] <korrx> for all who should have decoders problems : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/automatix
[06:49] <korrx> solve a lot of boring install of nonfree codecs and so on
[06:50] <noobie> is anyone using firefox on kubuntu?
[06:50] <korrx> I am, but swiftfox
[06:50] <noobie> i cant seem to get the libraries it is asking for, to load
[06:51] <BluesKaj> automtix is iffy ...itworks but if you install thru it you uninstall thru it as well, otherwise broken pkgs :(
[06:51] <korrx> maybe
[06:51] <korrx> wich packets you mean ?
[06:51] <korrx> packages
[06:51] <korrx> Ooops
[06:51] <BluesKaj> google earth for one
[06:51] <korrx> broken ?
[06:52] <noobie> yeah, i need libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[06:52] <noobie> but i can only find it in rpm form
[06:52] <korrx> didn't have any prob like this one
[06:52] <BluesKaj> it breaks other pkges with some of the same libs dependencies
[06:53] <korrx> ... sorry for that
[06:53] <korrx> apt-get update ?
[06:53] <noobie> didnt try that
[06:53] <korrx> wooch
[06:54] <korrx> as soon as you add repositories for automatix
[06:54] <noobie> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:55] <noobie> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[06:55] <korrx> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:55] <korrx> if u wanna do manually
[06:55] <korrx> but exit all apt or adept process first
[06:56] <BluesKaj> noobie , you have either or synaptic still open ...close the pkg managers then do it
[06:56] <BluesKaj> adept
[06:56] <korrx> right
[06:56] <noobie> alright
[06:59] <eMaX> wow ubuntu is really cool
[06:59] <korrx> I'm a poor lonesome kowboyz
[06:59] <korrx> yep
[07:00] <gio> salve
[07:00] <BluesKaj> eMaX, google earth ok now ?
[07:00] <korrx> hope so
[07:00] <eMaX> BluesKaj, I already tried to reinstall google-earth, didn't help. never mind. thanks anyway
[07:01] <korrx> anyway : there is a .run too to install it fingers in the nose
[07:01] <BluesKaj> well, maybe remove then install again
[07:01] <eMaX> I'm just happily watching all my encrypted data reappearing magically from my backup and wait for that to finish. then I'll try google-earth again.
[07:01] <korrx> it installs in your /home/user  directory
[07:01] <eMaX> Coming from SuSE, I can really say, Ubuntu is a big leap forward. SuSE has just gotten crammed with stuff you never need.
[07:02] <korrx> 2 dirs : googleearth and .googleearth
[07:02] <korrx> !
[07:02] <BluesKaj> not google-earth , google earth ...they're different ...beleive it or not
[07:02] <eMaX> I installed Ubuntu, and out of the box everything was working except 3d, which I was able to get working with some googling.
[07:02] <eMaX> well I downloaded from earth.google.com
[07:02] <korrx> eMax : Nvidia or Ati ?
[07:03] <eMaX> ati
[07:03] <korrx> ;)
[07:03] <BluesKaj> i used synaptic . eMaX
[07:03] <korrx> did it last night
[07:03] <korrx> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/ati
[07:03] <korrx> but google is my friend
[07:04] <eMaX> korrx tnx
[07:05] <korrx> no problem
[07:05] <korrx> if no prob ;) great
[07:05] <eMaX> bon, j'ai fait aticonfig --initial; added the "extensions" bit, added fglrx to /etc/modules
[07:05] <korrx> did it too ; and IN FIRST PLACE in that file
[07:06] <eMaX> korrx well there is "lp" in front, but that shouldn't matter
[07:06] <eMaX> fglrxinfo gives
[07:06] <korrx> glgears -printfps after a clean X reboot
[07:06] <korrx> glxgears -printfps after a clean X reboot
[07:06] <korrx> oooops
[07:07] <korrx> I placed it before lp
[07:07] <eMaX> display: :0.0  screen: 0; OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.; OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY FireGL V3200 Pentium 4 (SSE2) (FireGL) (GNU_ICD); OpenGL version string: 2.0.6011 (8.28.8)
[07:07] <korrx> that was for an Ati X800
[07:07] <korrx> anyway : tutorial linked below should work for a lot of ati cgs
[07:08] <eMaX> 7184 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1436.690 FPS
[07:08] <korrx> ;)
[07:08] <korrx> great
[07:08] <korrx> good work
[07:08] <eMaX> so that's not so bad
[07:08] <slocum> hi
[07:08] <eMaX> yet google-earth (with "-") doesn't start up
[07:08] <ubuntu_> hi
[07:09] <eMaX> korrx and especially: I have never seen SuSE successfully hibernate or standby with fglrx active. It crashes always. With Ubuntu, it worked right out of the box.
[07:09] <korrx> do you have automatix added repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[07:10] <eMaX> Of course that means Ubuntu costs me a lot of time... .oO(playing Quake)
[07:10] <korrx> playing Quake too
[07:10] <korrx> ;)
[07:10] <eMaX> automatix?
[07:10] <korrx> yes
[07:10] <eMaX> what is that
[07:11] <korrx> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/automatix
[07:11] <php-freak> okay guys I'm having one problem with kbuntu but everything else seems fine, like in firefox, and etc. How do i make the icons smaller?
[07:11] <casev01> someone knows how can i change the icon of the kde menu?
[07:12] <casev01> a newbie question....
[07:12] <kkathman> Anyone here have experience mounting a windows directory in Kubuntu using the fstab?
[07:12] <kkathman> via samba of course
[07:12] <cloakable> kkathman: Ja
[07:12] <LjL> kkathman: err, i had one mounted on dapper, but it went away when i installed edgy, and never bothered to look at the syntax again =)
[07:13] <eMaX> letme see. Actually I apparently stopped using firefox as the actual konqueror is good enough :)
[07:13] <LjL> !samba
[07:13] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:14] <kkathman> cloakable or LjL  I put the following in my fstab :   \\<IP_ADDRESS>\Backups\vids  /mnt/videos cifs credentials=/etc/samba/sharename.auth,uid=kkathman,gid=kkathman 0 0
[07:14] <LjL> kkathman: perhaps the backslashes will work as well, but i've always used forward slashes
[07:14] <php-freak> php-freak
[07:14] <php-freak> Hey guys on kbuntu how do I adjust  the applications icon size?
[07:14] <kkathman> then did a sudo mount -a && mount, and I get an Error 6 mount error 6 = No such device or address
[07:15] <php-freak> I guess that would be the dpi settings
[07:15] <kkathman> but I know that the path exists, I can open that in a konq window
[07:16] <kkathman> LJL you mean someting like  \\<IP_ADDRESS>/Backups/vids   ??
[07:16] <php-freak> How do i adjust my dpi settings on kbuntu?
[07:16] <noobie> where are programs intalled to? is ther a common dir?
[07:16] <LjL> kkathman: no. well, yes, but also // at the beginning
[07:16] <kkathman> ok lemme try that
[07:16] <LjL> noobie: no, files are scattered around, but the executables are mostly in /usr/bin
[07:16] <kkathman> I just copied that line directly out of my suse fstab and made the appropriate changes
[07:16] <LjL> noobie: you can do "dpkg -L <packagename>" to see a list of files owned by a given package
[07:17] <noobie> aha
[07:17] <LjL> kkathman: also, are we sure uid and gid accept plaintext?
[07:17] <kkathman> LJL well they did in suse 10.0 and 10.1
[07:17] <kkathman> I dont know about kubuntu tho
[07:18] <kkathman> I'd thing they were the same LJL
[07:18] <kkathman> it should all be governed by cifs (which is a standard I'd think)
[07:18] <LjL> kkathman: yeah, it should be the same i guess. i just wasn't sure
[07:20] <eMaX> anyone here has ubuntu running on a thinkpad? I wonder whether I'll get the drivebay hotswap to work
[07:20] <cloakable> Not yet :(
[07:20] <php-freak> How do I change Kubuntu dpi settings?
[07:21] <eMaX> thought so.
[07:21] <eMaX> it just locks the system when I try :)
[07:21] <php-freak> How do I change Kubuntu dpi settings?
[07:21] <eMaX> what is dpi settings? display resolution?
[07:22] <php-freak> eMax: well where everything won't look so large in my applications. Like the back back buttons, and etc in firefox is large, all icons in apps are very large they look toooo zoomed in or somethign
[07:23] <eMaX> ah ok I'm pretty happy but I've a resolution of like 1600x1200 so I'm not too unhappy about "large" icons.
[07:23] <php-freak> lol
[07:23] <php-freak> well at least i can make it look like windows, and make them smaller
[07:24] <eMaX> wuaa what a requirement "look like windows" :D
[07:24] <n8schicht> Beryl + Kubuntu: How to make the desktop switcher display open windows on the proper viewport? it will always be displayed on the 1st one. does somebody know how to solve this?
[07:24] <LjL> i'd rather have doors
[07:24] <n8schicht> ups, not open them, but show them on the proper viewport...
[07:25] <angasule> n8schicht: #beryl
[07:25] <n8schicht> angasule: nobody there who knows that
[07:25] <eMaX> korrx so automatix. I wonder what it gave me. I think I'll have to disable all other repositories for a moment in order to see the additions
[07:26] <korrx> no
[07:26] <korrx> you have it normally iin tour system menu
[07:26] <korrx> or suco automatix2 on prompt
[07:26] <korrx> sodo
[07:26] <korrx> ooops
[07:26] <LjL> !automatix
[07:26] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:26] <korrx> yes*
[07:27] <korrx> if your prob is google-earth related : no need to automatix
[07:28] <sercik> hi to all!
[07:28] <sercik> one question
[07:28] <Kixologix> thanks for the help guys. Got firefox 2.0 installed and flashplayer (which was my goal to begin with.) I think i may actually erase windows one of these days.
[07:28] <eMaX> I'll have a look at automatix
[07:28] <eMaX> oh
[07:29] <sercik> if i follow this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-90919.html to make flash works on konqueror 64 bit the other plugins will continue to work?
[07:29] <eMaX> I disabled all other repositories, and adept_manager crashed on fetch updates from automatix ;)
[07:29] <korrx> great tool for me
[07:29] <sercik> qutomatix is not reccomended also if great
[07:30] <korrx> why disable other repositories ?!
[07:30] <sercik> someone have installed flash on konqueror 64 bit?
[07:30] <sercik> f
[07:30] <RadiantFire> its really not hard to just install all these things manually
[07:30] <RadiantFire> you realy shouldn't use automaticx
[07:30] <korrx> ok radiant
[07:30] <eMaX> what is the difference between easyubuntu, automatix2 and automatix2bleeder?
[07:30] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine: ping
[07:30] <RadiantFire> 2 copy pastes and like 3 searches
[07:31] <delphine> Admiral_Chicago: pong
[07:31] <sercik> ok
[07:31] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine: you speak french n'est pas?
[07:31] <RadiantFire> if ya'll have questions on which packages to install or repositories to enable to get support, I at least will be happy to help
[07:31] <sercik> i have reinstalled kubuntu to not use automatix2 now someone may help me?
[07:31] <korrx> no need except for codecs and easy-to-use install
[07:31] <LjL> ask in the respective channels eMaX. we don't support automatix here any more than we support windows
[07:31] <RadiantFire> i just get sad when people break boxes using automatix
[07:31] <LjL> sercik: doing what?
[07:31] <Admiral_Chicago> sercik: what is the problem?
[07:32] <eMaX> RadieantFire is it really so bad?
[07:32] <sercik> hi LjL i have followed what you tell
[07:32] <php-freak> ahh how can i change the dpi on kde?
[07:32] <sercik> i reinstalled kubuntu
[07:32] <RadiantFire> it doesn't always show up immediately, but automatix has been known to trash systems
[07:32] <sercik> now i must work to enable mpe etc etc
[07:32] <RadiantFire> i believe easyubuntu is safer, but I don't know how much
[07:32] <Admiral_Chicago> mpe?
[07:32] <sercik> hi admiral!
[07:32] <LjL> Admiral_Chicago: i always do that typo as well
[07:32] <sercik> i want to enable flash in konqueror
[07:32] <LjL> Admiral_Chicago: i even have an mpe -> mp3 autoreplace now :)
[07:32] <sercik> and i have found official guide
[07:32] <Admiral_Chicago> LjL: oh that
[07:33] <Admiral_Chicago> !restricted
[07:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:33] <jonathan_> has anyone used vmware server on kbuntu
[07:33] <LjL> sercik: for mp3, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[07:33] <korrx> sudo rm-rf /
[07:33] <korrx> :p
[07:33] <RadiantFire> er, don't do that
[07:33] <LjL> but yeah, read the page, it has just about everything you need
[07:33] <RadiantFire> that would end bery badly
[07:33] <Admiral_Chicago> sercik: add the multiverse and universe repo before that
[07:33] <LjL> korrx: please don't
[07:33] <sercik> ok ok i will follw guide i don't want to annoying you for this
[07:33] <korrx> lol
[07:33] <Admiral_Chicago> then follow LjL's command
[07:33] <korrx> ok no more joke
[07:33] <LjL> sercik: for flash you need to rescan plugins in konqueror, after you install it
[07:33] <sercik> the only thing i want to ask you is flash on 64 bit konqueror
[07:33] <LjL> and if you want flash 9
[07:33] <LjL> !flash9
[07:33] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[07:33] <eMaX> what means, in adept_manager, if In the "requested" column, I get a "DESTROY (install)"?
[07:34] <sercik> but 64 BIT!!!!!!
[07:34] <sercik> flash doesn't work with 64 bit
[07:34] <LjL> sercik: i don't think you can get flash on 64bit
[07:34] <stamen> !edgy
[07:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[07:34] <sercik> yes it works see:http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-90919.html
[07:34] <LjL> !flash64bit
[07:34] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[07:34] <delphine> Admiral_Chicago: yep, I am French
[07:35] <korrx> test your world knowledge : http://www.geosense.net/
[07:35] <sercik> ok ok
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine: what does dfectueux mean in french? my french is very rusty
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic | korrx
[07:35] <ubotu> korrx: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:35] <sercik> but i'd like to install into konqueror
[07:35] <korrx> mon tailleur est riche
[07:35] <korrx> :p
[07:35] <delphine> defect
[07:35] <sercik> noone has done this there?
[07:35] <BluesKaj> defective
[07:35] <LjL> sercik: seems complicated to me. why don't you just run the 32 bit version anyway?
[07:35] <delphine> that does not work any more
[07:35] <sercik> 32 bit on konqueror?
[07:36] <LjL> sercik: no, Ubuntu 32-bit
[07:36] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks all, i'm doing a bug report that had that word.
[07:36] <sercik> noooooooooooo
[07:36] <kkathman> LjL:  well it worked finally but its odd - I had to reference another share, then go back and put the one I wanted, very strange..obviously some bugs in cifs :)
[07:36] <eMaX> korrx le ca veut dire quoi "DETRUIRE" (install) dans adept_manager?
[07:36] <sercik> i will try to follow a guide
[07:36] <korrx> ??
[07:36] <sercik> the only problem is that the 64 bit plugin will not work anymore i think
[07:36] <korrx> DETRUIRE !
[07:36] <korrx> Kill Kill
[07:36] <korrx> !
[07:36] <sercik> this is the problem that i want to post here
[07:36] <korrx> :p
[07:37] <php-freak> any one know how i can change the dpi settings in kubuntu for apps?
[07:37] <sercik> but probably noone could help me!
[07:37] <eMaX> He says that when I try to "install" automatix2 (and I already saw that also on another package earlier today)
[07:37] <LjL> sercik, honestly using the amd64 version when you want stuff like flash, java, w32codecs etc seems like masochism to me
[07:37] <eMaX> ok I won't probably use automatix. doesn't make sense to break the system for google earth
[07:37] <korrx> you still have automatix so
[07:37] <sercik> but is possible to install 432bit version of what you need
[07:37] <korrx> sudo automatix2
[07:37] <LjL> !googleearth
[07:37] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[07:37] <sercik> excuse me 32 bit
[07:38] <LjL> eMaX: hm well, not what i had in mind
[07:38] <LjL> !plf
[07:38] <ubotu> PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[07:38] <LjL> eMaX: those guys have google earth available
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> sercik: yes you can
[07:38] <LjL> (and i don't think it's down anymore)
[07:38] <php-freak> any one know how i can change the dpi settings in kubuntu for apps?
[07:38] <sercik> admiral can you help me a bit!
[07:38] <sercik> ?
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> you need to install it into a chroot or something like that
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> you jail it into a 32 bit enviroment
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> sercik: PM me if you wish
[07:38] <LjL> php-freak: put a   Screensize <h-millimeters> <v-millimeters>    entry in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, section "Screen"
[07:39] <jonathan_> i have installed vmware server but for some reason it wants me to connect to a remot host and not the local host
[07:39] <php-freak> LjL: thanks,
[07:39] <jonathan_> send me a pm if anyone has any suggestions
[07:39] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm a bit busy so it may take a little wait
[07:39] <eMaX> ok I download it a 3rd time :)
[07:39] <LjL> php-freak: there's also an explicit DPI option, but i don't remember it (possibly just Dpi...). but anyway specifying the actual size in millimeters will work for all resolutions, so it might be better
[07:40] <korrx> eMax : what is your exact way to download it ?
[07:40] <LjL> php-freak: if you're using the nvidia driver, you might also need to specify Option "ReadEdidDpi" "False"   in section Device, since AFAIK the nvidia driver gets the DPI wrong and insists on them
[07:40] <eMaX> http://dl.google.com/earth/GE4/GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[07:40] <korrx> yes
[07:41] <korrx> you dowload it on your desktop, I suppose
[07:41] <korrx> so
[07:41] <korrx> open a terminal
[07:41] <korrx> and type
[07:41] <php-freak> LJL: so what do i look for again in the xorg.conf file?
[07:41] <LjL> php-freak: Section "Screen"
[07:41] <korrx> cd Desktop (assuming you are in your ~ dir)
[07:42] <CVirus> !ati
[07:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:42] <eMaX> well I put it in a directory I have for that, /inst/google-earth, I go there, chmod it to 755, then ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin or rather sudo
[07:42] <php-freak> okay found it, now what was you saying I added
[07:42] <php-freak> what would you recommended to make it smaller
[07:42] <php-freak> I wonder what windows is set too
[07:42] <korrx> and sudo sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin ; I guess ; thought it was a .run file ?
[07:42] <php-freak> xp
[07:42] <LjL> php-freak, i recommend that you put your real monitor size. not some fake DPI.
[07:43] <eMaX> well I just ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin now this time w/o sudo let's see
[07:43] <korrx> yes....
[07:43] <php-freak> LjL: How can I find out my real monitor size?
[07:43] <fdoving> php-freak: you can also edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc , search for 'ServerArgsLocal' and make it read 'ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp -dpi 100' if you want an dpi of 100.
[07:43] <LjL> php-freak: wait, section Monitor, not section Screen
[07:43] <LjL> php-freak: ... a ruler?
[07:43] <LjL> php-freak:        DisplaySize     325 240  <-- this is my own entry
[07:43] <php-freak> lol okay
[07:43] <Rob-West> ok right now im running Kubuntu with my onboard video if i put a video card in my computer will i need to reload Kubuntu
[07:43] <php-freak> let me try 325 240
[07:43] <LjL> php-freak: and then, if you're on nvidia, in Section "Device",  you add          Option          "UseEdidDpi" "False"
[07:43] <eMaX> did I already say this is the most helpful Linux channel I've seen in years (and I've been on #linux and #linuxger since 1994)
[07:44] <fdoving> php-freak: i -think- my way is easier. :)
[07:44] <php-freak> i don't have nvidia
[07:44] <kkathman> Rob-West:  typically not - it should detect it fine
[07:44] <korrx> (k) eMax
[07:44] <Tresko> can anyone give a good advice on 56k analog modem for Kubuntu?
[07:44] <php-freak> Section "Monitor"
[07:44] <php-freak> 	Identifier	"Generic Monitor"
[07:44] <php-freak> 	Option		"DPMS"
[07:44] <php-freak> 	HorizSync	28-51
[07:44] <php-freak> 	VertRefresh	43-60
[07:44] <jonathan_> i have installed vmware server but for some reason it wants me to connect to a remot host and not the local host send me a pm with any suggestions
[07:44] <php-freak> thats what mine says
[07:44] <korrx> so it workz ?
[07:44] <kkathman> Rob-West:  I switched from onboard to nVidia FX5200 no problem
[07:45] <Rob-West> well im getting an Nvidia FX5500
[07:45] <Rob-West> PCI
[07:45] <jonathan_> they rnt worth it
[07:45] <Rob-West> not PCI Express
[07:45] <jonathan_> lol
[07:45] <jonathan_> i have installed vmware server but for some reason it wants me to connect to a remot host and not the local host send me a pm with any suggestions
[07:45] <kkathman> Rob-West:  should be fine...shut the system down, unplug, put the board in, plug up and reboot...should be just fine
[07:46] <Rob-West> ok
[07:46] <kkathman> then you might want to install the nvidia drivers
[07:46] <mc__> Rob-West: did you buy that crap?
[07:46] <mc__> Rob-West: you get a 7300 for 50 buks
[07:46] <Rob-West> i got this card free
[07:46] <mc__> well that is something different
[07:47] <jonathan_> i have installed vmware server but for some reason it wants me to connect to a remot host and not the local host send me a pm with any suggestions
[07:47] <jonathan_> thats kool
[07:47] <Rob-West> hes sending me it cux he wants me to try Beryl XGL
[07:47] <Rob-West> the compiz stuff
[07:47] <fdoving> !repeat | jonathan_
[07:47] <ubotu> jonathan_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:47] <korrx> Sure you see a nice cube ;)
[07:47] <eMaX> korrx well again it just hangs on the splash screen but you know what I'll let it hang around there for awhile
[07:48] <Rob-West> can someone help me set up Korn
[07:48] <Rob-West> im not good with the POP3 stuff
[07:48] <jonathan_> sry ubotu its just that this is getting really frustrating
[07:48] <korrx> eMax : do you execute your script with administrative rights (despite it installs i your home dir)?
[07:49] <eMaX> korrx 2 times I installed it as root, once as normal user
[07:49] <korrx> really dtrange
[07:50] <korrx> don't know further, eMax : your problem seems to be strange
[07:50] <eMaX> let me remove all references to it :)
[07:50] <korrx> do you have an old .googleearth in your ~ ?
[07:50] <eMaX> I am just removing everything I have  in terms of goole*
[07:51] <korrx> damned !
[07:51] <korrx> chmod 666 /dev/evil
[07:51] <eMaX> har
[07:51] <lazarus__> Ive just set up samba to connect to a windows machine (which was MUCH easier than I expected). what does the $ mean? I see folders after them. eg, C$. I assume thats my windows C drive
[07:51] <eMaX> it is a system controlled share
[07:52] <Rob-West> why did the GUI of Kubuntu mess up when i took it from onboard video to my old Radeon 9600
[07:52] <kkathman> lazarus__:  yup exactly
[07:53] <kkathman> Rob-West:  you went from nVidia to ATI probably....video driver is different
[07:53] <eMaX> let's try strace
[07:53] <Rob-West> well the onboard is a VIA chipset
[07:54] <notech> you didn't reconfigure X
[07:54] <kkathman> Rob-West: your system configures the xorg settings based on one video, you may have to manually adjust those settings
[07:55] <Rob-West> how would 1 do that
[07:55] <lazarus__> kkathman: but what does the $ mean? when I try to access those folders it asks for a password to match the windows username, but there is none. If I leave it blank it doesnt work.
[07:55] <php-freak> okay im back
[07:55] <php-freak> how can i restore all kde orginal settings?
[07:55] <frankal> how can i play karaoke
[07:56] <kkathman> Rob-West:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:56] <LjL> frankal: "apt-cache search karaoke"
[07:56] <lazarus__> frankal: first, get nice and drunk
[07:56] <kkathman> lazarus__:  security to your winbox
[07:56] <eMaX> korrx well strace googleearth finishes hanging on a line saying ioctl(8, 0xc00c645c
[07:56] <eMaX> strange
[07:56] <eMaX> I'll reboot
[07:56] <LjL> !packages | frankal
[07:56] <ubotu> frankal: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[07:56] <php-freak> LjL: how can i restore kubuntu all defaults settings?
[07:57] <php-freak> now my konversation window text is huge, I don't know what i changed, I just logged off, and logged back in
[07:57] <kkathman> lazarus__:  also you may wish to go to your windows box and rename the share name so that they arent C$ etc
[07:57] <eMaX> by the way: how can hide the kubuntu splash screen? not permanently, I'm looking for something like pressing "Esc"
[07:57] <LjL> php-freak: you can remove the .kde directory from your home. that will probably reset a *lot* of settings though, including (just for instance) the konversation logs
[07:57] <frankal> oops!!
[07:57] <php-freak> I put the xorg.conf file back to its normal think
[07:57] <php-freak> will it make another .kde directory?
[07:58] <LjL> frankal: no worries... just saying. but if you have Universe enabled, and type "apt-cache search karaoke", you have your answer - and this applies to most other situations as well
[07:58] <kkathman> php-freak:  yep next time you start KDE
[07:58] <LjL> php-freak: wait wait, what does xorg.conf have to do with KDE?
[07:58] <frankal> thaks
[07:59] <LjL> thank you for explaining
[08:00] <Dannilion> Blergh
[08:00] <lazarus__> kkathman: the shared windows folders dont have the $, and I can access them without a password. So, if I create a password for the windows user (currently it is blank) would I be able to access those non-shared windows folders?
[08:00] <Dannilion> I still can't get ndiswrapper to work, even following my own howto
[08:00] <eMaX> brb
[08:02] <kkathman> lazarus__:  why not just set those directories to a new share name?  Easily done in windows...Start-Explore, then right click on the partition/drive, click on sharing and set the share name
[08:02] <php-freak> okay I see what it was
[08:02] <php-freak> LjL: I know what I'm trying to do now, but don' tknow how to do it, I want to lower the dpi settings
[08:03] <LjL> php-freak, DPI is "dots per inch". you ideally (and practically, IMHO) want your software to believe the DPI as equal to the actual dots per inch on your screen. that's what DPI means.
[08:03] <lazarus__> kkathman: yes, but Im just wondering, if I supplied the password for the windows user, could I then access those $ folders, even though they are not explicitly shared?
[08:03] <LjL> php-freak: if fonts are too big, just go to the system settings and select smaller fonts
[08:03] <kkathman> lazarus__:  no of course not, because they arent shared :)
[08:04] <lazarus__> kkathman: so why is it asking for a password for those folders?
[08:04] <kkathman> lazarus__:  you can have the actual share name be C$... but you DO have to set it in Windows
[08:04] <LjL> php-freak: as a sidenote, i've also found that "Full" hinting (under the Anti-aliasing settings in the KDE Fonts configuration) gives much better rendering (at least for me) than the default Medium hinting
[08:04] <javier> help!!!
[08:04] <LjL> !helpme
[08:04] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:05] <php-freak> LjL: no its not the fonts, like when I open up firefox, some of the text looks too big, like where it says getting started. I want my windows just a little bit smaller, similar to windows, which I hate windows I love kubuntu just trying to give it a simlar loook.
[08:05] <eMaX_> re
[08:05] <javier> hay algun espaol?
[08:05] <kkathman> lazarus__:  windows detects that another user is trying to access its files, and its not you so it need to authenticate
[08:05] <php-freak> LjL: hold on, is anti aliasing suspose to be better viewing
[08:05] <LjL> php-freak: of fonts, yes. but that's already enabled by default
[08:05] <php-freak> k
[08:05] <LjL> php-freak: could you post a screenshot, so i can get an idea of the problem?
[08:05] <php-freak> yes
[08:05] <php-freak> great :)
[08:05] <php-freak> hold on
[08:06] <LjL> php-freak: i know about http://www.imageshack.us/ (make sure you un-select the option for resizing the image)
[08:06] <lazarus__> kkathman: right, so if I did authenticate with the right password, would I have access to the non-shared folders?
[08:06] <javier> sources.list default of kubuntu 6.06?
[08:06] <php-freak> k
[08:06] <korrx> yo
[08:06] <php-freak> LjL: how do i take a screenshot again
[08:06] <javier> korrx?
[08:06] <korrx> on which process ?
[08:07] <korrx> wazzup javier ?
[08:07] <kkathman> lazarus__:  a folder needs to be "shared" to be accessible across a network
[08:07] <javier> cuales son los sources.list default de kubuntu 6.0.6?
[08:07] <lazarus__> kkathman: so why are the non-shared folders visible at all?
[08:08] <korrx> sources.list : list of repoz for apt : common use in all debian like distros I guess
[08:08] <der_steppenwolf> hello, a have a question
[08:08] <der_steppenwolf> how can i see the change log between versions of packages in the ubuntu distribution?
[08:08] <php-freak> okay ljl
[08:08] <php-freak> got the screenshot
[08:08] <kkathman> lazarus__:  the folders show up for information's sake I guess, but the fact that they arent "shared" means only authoritative persons on that machine can access the data in the folders
[08:09] <LjL> php-freak: k / graphics / ksnapshot
[08:09] <LjL> or the PrintScreen keyboard button i suppose
[08:09] <kkathman> thats not an unusual thing
[08:09] <lazarus__> thanks for the straightforward answers, kkathman
[08:10] <javier>  I have a problem with sources.list of kubuntu dapper?
[08:10] <kkathman> your welcome  lazarus__ :)
[08:10] <korrx> sudo apt-get --help
[08:10] <fdoving> javier: what is the problem?
[08:10] <javier> I lose the sources.list default of kubuntu
[08:11] <fdoving> !sources.list
[08:11] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:11] <javier> ok
[08:11] <javier> thanks
[08:11] <fdoving> hang on.. not sure it works.
[08:11] <korrx> ksnapshot : default printscreen key binded
[08:11] <fdoving> !easysource | javier
[08:11] <ubotu> javier: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[08:12] <LjL> sorry php-freak, was messing with beryl and got a frozen X
[08:12] <javier> what?
[08:12] <javier> ok
[08:13] <php-freak> Ahh never mind, I thinkng, its the dpi settings, cause windows look a little bit smaller like everything, but I guess this will due
[08:13] <korrx> deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
[08:13] <korrx> deb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
[08:13] <korrx> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[08:13] <korrx> ## distribution.
[08:13] <korrx> deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted
[08:13] <dreameen> guys
[08:13] <fdoving> !paste | korrx
[08:13] <ubotu> korrx: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:13] <dreameen> how to get rid of the annoying power manager in kubuntu edgy??!
[08:13] <korrx> kubuntu edgy
[08:13] <php-freak> one question how do I turn the single click off on the icons, and does kubuntu support a spell checker on everything like ubuntu does
[08:14] <korrx> sorry for flood txt
[08:14] <LjL> php-freak: yes to the latter (just right click any textbox, like your konversation input textbox if you're using konv)
[08:14] <LjL> php-freak: for the former, i have to look, but it can be done
[08:15] <php-freak> nice auto spell check
[08:15] <php-freak> I like kubuntu way better then ubuntu
[08:15] <korrx> yo all leaving cya soon hope all is rolling on ; ....
[08:16] <korrx> kubuntu rulez
[08:16] <php-freak> Surprised every one don't use unix os's
[08:16] <php-freak> I just wish I could get my sound working
[08:17] <LjL> php-freak: alt+f2, type "kcontrol", go to Peripherals, Mouse
[08:17] <LjL> (i guess that's somewhere in System Settings as well...)
[08:18] <LjL> ah yeah, Keyboard and Mouse
[08:19] <php-freak> I wonder how i can disable my onboard mouse, in ubuntu I had to edit configuration files
[08:20] <joe3k> does anyone know some tool that can download a complete web site (incl links etc)?
[08:20] <LjL> !info wget
[08:20] <ubotu> wget: retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.10.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 226 kB, installed size 1952 kB
[08:21] <joe3k> LjL: hmmm i know wget but can it automatically download links?
[08:21] <LjL> joe3k: yes. see "man wget". look at the "-r" and "--mirror" options first.
[08:22] <joe3k> LjL: got it, thanks :)
[08:23] <php-freak> lol is some of this stuff like foreign language like knoqueror
[08:23] <miguel> g'night every one
[08:25] <miguel> i'm having this little problem when changing users in kde...when I change back, the screen hight streches a bit, which makes kicker partialy not visible
[08:25] <malik__> !KICKER
[08:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about KICKER - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:25] <miguel> I also get some screen lines repeated( that fill the streaching )
[08:25] <malik__> !kicker
[08:26] <ubotu> kicker: desktop panel for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 1953 kB, installed size 5808 kB
[08:27] <cpk1> i noticed that there is a hal update
[08:27] <cpk1> does that fix the automount problem?
[08:27] <malik__> what does kicker do?
[08:27] <Admiral_Chicago> malik__: it is the KDE panel
[08:28] <miguel> malik__: is the bar at the bottom of the screen
[08:28] <malik__> aaaaaah oki thanx
[08:31] <miguel> does anyone know about this problem?
[08:34] <gan|y|med> good evenning
[08:34] <gan|y|med> evening
[08:34] <malik__> evenin
[08:37] <php-freak> hey guys in kubuntu I got a file thats under /usr/local/Zend/ZendStudio-5.2.0/bin/zde, now how can i get this on my desktop so it will open up like it does under that folder? Cause if i just drag it to my desktop, it won't open up?
[08:37] <javier> hello!
[08:37] <php-freak> I got it, I just did link her
[08:37] <php-freak> link here
[08:38] <php-freak> How can I change the icons?
[08:38] <milaks> Hi. Can someone please tell me how can I disable some od those vertical tabs found in Kate and Kdevelop for instance?
[08:41] <milaks> Anyone?
[08:42] <miguel> milaks: in kdevelop you can turn off some plugins and some stuff at the project settings
[08:42] <php-freak> how can I change a icon into another icon on kubuntu
[08:43] <jpiccolo> would anyone know why gentoo can find my network card but, unbuntu and fedora cant?
[08:46] <frankal> thanks 4 all!!
[08:47] <woozigaru> does anyone know why ktorrent might keep resetting the "folder to store temporary files
[08:47] <woozigaru> ?
[08:49] <milaks> Hi. Can someone please tell me how can I disable some od those vertical tabs found in Kate and Kdevelop for instance?
[08:50] <milaks> In Kdevelop there are simply too many of them
[08:50] <milaks> and some of them are very similiar
[08:50] <kkathman> milaks:  you can get the source code and change them :)
[08:50] <kkathman> thats the beauty of OSS
[08:52] <milaks> kkathman: maybe that is the beauty for someone who has no better things to do, than to study some programs source code, and change somethig small as this. No offense, but I would like to find another solutioin, if there is such, if not never mind.
[08:53] <kkathman> well I assumed you were a coder, since you were using kdevelop, Im pretty sure you'd prolly need to change those yourself, as there isnt any way to configure them away to my knowledge
[08:54] <deitarion> Would you guys say Kubuntu is a good choice for an 864Mhz P3 with 128MB RAM and 20 GB of hard drive space?
[08:54] <kkathman> in kate there are ways to remove some of the things and/or move them elsewhere
[08:54] <milaks> kkathman: I'm a coder, but honestly I do not have time right now for that. So there's not any other way? Well never mind then :)
[08:54] <kkathman> i.e. window - tool view
[08:54] <abattoir> deitarion: it'd be slow
[08:55] <TheGateKeeper> deitarion: it will work ok on it, but depends what your definition of 'good' is
[08:56] <deitarion> TheGateKeeper: I was thinking of putting my friend on IceWM with a few KDE apps. I figure that, if WinXP can play fansubbed anime on a 1Ghz Duron, an IceWM desktop should have no problem playing anime on an ~850Mhz box.
[08:56] <deitarion> Heck, I've achieved similar performance to Win98 on a 166Mhz 80MB laptop with IceWM.
[08:57] <deitarion> Also, I believe I read something about the standard installer requiring 192MB of RAM. What's the alternative?
[08:58] <TheGateKeeper> deitarion: probable work fine, but if you feel the 'need for speed' then try arch, but with that you only get a base system & you have to build the desktop yourself
[08:58] <deitarion> TheGateKeeper: I'd put him on Debian if I thought he'd take to Linux maintenance reasonably well.
[08:59] <TheGateKeeper> deitarion: there is always the 'alternative' cd uses a text installer
[08:59] <deitarion> The main reason I want him on Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu is so he can have Synaptic or Adept.
[09:00] <TheGateKeeper> I hate adept
[09:00] <TheGateKeeper> pointless attempt at reinventing the wheel
[09:00] <cloakable> I like it.
[09:00] <cloakable> Reinventing what wheel?
[09:00] <deitarion> I'll probably start him off with Xubuntu since it'd give me an excuse to have an install CD for all 3 and I'm going to switch to IceWM anyway.
[09:00] <JacquelineG> are there any advantages to use the 64 bit version if you have a 64 bit chip?
[09:01] <cloakable> What is Adept imitating that uses the QT toolkit?
[09:01] <TheGateKeeper> deitarion: use the 'alternative' cd if the live cd gives you agrovation
[09:03] <deitarion> TheGateKeeper: I'm somewhat low on time, so I'll just start with the alternative CD. I'm a Gentoo user, so it won't be much trouble.
[09:04] <TheGateKeeper> cloakable: if QT was SO important it would have made more sence to port synaptic (or whatever) to it & go from there
[09:04] <abattoir> JacquelineG: the advantages are limited(as of now), if you are new to linux, i'd strongly recommend installing a 32-bit OS
[09:04] <TheGateKeeper> deitarion: thought you where, know you from that 'other' channel :-)
[09:05] <JacquelineG> i hear flash is a problem with 64 though
[09:05] <JacquelineG> are they good speed gains?
[09:05] <cloakable> TheGateKeeper: Then GNOME would be without a native GUI package manager :P
[09:06] <abattoir> JacquelineG: actually, flash, java(w/ browser plugin), w32codecs etc. are all possible, one way or another in a 64-bit install
[09:06] <abattoir> JacquelineG: it's just that at the moment, it's not really friendly for the new user
[09:06] <JacquelineG> i see
[09:06] <JacquelineG> do video cards work pretty easily and well with 64?
[09:06] <abattoir> JacquelineG: if you don't need those stuff, you can run a 64-bit distro
[09:06] <TheGateKeeper> cloakable: not if you fork you dope!
[09:06] <abattoir> JacquelineG: which card?
[09:07] <JacquelineG> nv
[09:07] <abattoir> JacquelineG: i can't think of a reason why it shouldn't work
[09:07] <JacquelineG> do ati's suck with 64?  i know they are a pain in general with linux.  are they even more so a problem with 64 bit?
[09:08] <sampo-> How do I mount my second hard driver? I tryet mount /dev/sdb, but mount say, the he can not find it from fstab
[09:08] <sampo-> and I do not know what i need to edit fstab
[09:09] <TheGateKeeper> sampo-: you want to do this manually or in fstab?
[09:09] <TheGateKeeper> !fstab
[09:09] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:10] <sampo-> TheGateKeeper: Same to me, I'm tryign to do software-raid. >:P Perhap's too dificult to me.
[09:10] <TheGateKeeper> sudo mount /dev/<whatvever>  /mount/point
[09:10] <sampo-> or should it run fdisk first? It's empty, just installed
[09:10] <TheGateKeeper> sampo-: ^^^
[09:11] <TheGateKeeper> sampo-: you need to create partitions
[09:11] <cloakable> sampo-: Or cfdisk, if you have that. I find cfdisk easy to use.
[09:11] <TheGateKeeper> probable ext3
[09:12] <sampo-> ok. But kubuntu.org site says, the alternative installation disk if you want make raid, but there was not nothing about it, when I install
[09:13] <TheGateKeeper> sampo-: never really messed with raid, I would suggest a search of the forums
[09:14] <sampo-> ok
[09:20] <eMaX_> anyone seen so far cpp: error trying to exec 'cc1plus': execvp: No such file or directory
[09:24] <malik__> hgggghjg
[09:24] <iceman> hello all
[09:24] <proo> hi
[09:25] <iceman> for give me if I seem dumb. I am new to linux. had ubuntu for a few weeks and found kubuntu to be smoother.
[09:30] <florian> B'jour tout le monde :)
[09:41] <rafal_> czesc
[09:42] <metatecque> !english
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about english - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <php-freak> how can i edit what starts up on my sessions in kubuntu?
[09:48] <slow-motion> n8
[09:48] <php-freak> how can i edit what starts up on my sessions in kubuntu?
[09:49] <sercik> i'm happy i have succesfully installed 32 bit firefox with flash on kubuntu 64 bit
[09:50] <php-freak> sercik: do you know how to disable the laptop mouse on kubuntu?
[09:50] <php-freak> the touch pad?
[09:50] <php-freak> or better yet how can i edit the session what starts up with the machine, I had it disabled in ubuntu, but had to add a line to the session start
[09:52] <kkathman> php-freak:  kcontrol or system settings  - everything is there :)
[09:52] <sercik> i'm sorry i don't have a laptop
[09:53] <php-freak> under system settings I don't see my onboard mouse, I have to disable it in the xorf.conf file
[09:54] <php-freak> but i need to add a line to the sesssion to start up
[09:54] <kkathman> php-freak:  also if you cant find what you need, I'd refer you to http://wiki.ubuntu.com   a storehouse of how to do things
[09:54] <kkathman> php-freak:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[09:54] <kkathman> for example :)
[09:55] <php-freak> I know that
[09:55] <kkathman> php-freak:  as a new user, you'll find the wiki to be very useful
[09:55] <php-freak> kkathman: What im asking is how to a add a line to the session, I already disable the mouse under ubuntu, but when i install kubuntu today, its not disable, so i have to add it into the session
[09:56] <kkathman> why line are you talking about
[09:56] <kkathman> a command line you mean?
[09:57] <kkathman> command lines can be put in a bash script, then run via the Autostart
[09:57] <php-freak> no
[09:58] <jonathan_> when i log into the console of vmware server it asks me to log into a remote host how would i log into a local host
[09:58] <php-freak> sesssions
[09:58] <php-freak> I need to add a line into the session
[09:58] <php-freak> under ubuntu its at System->Preferences->Sessions
[09:58] <Rob-West> why r there no ops here
[09:59] <php-freak> but wheres it at on kubuntu
[09:59] <kkathman> Rob-West:  there are, but typically no one "stays" opped...Freenode guidelines
[10:01] <sercik> ciao kkathman!
[10:02] <kkathman> sercik:  greetings !
[10:03] <sercik> i have reinstalle dkubuntu
[10:03] <sercik> and now i have installed firefox32 with flash :)
[10:04] <Necros> Does anyone know if on my already installed Feisty installation, when CompositeByDefault is implemented whether it will autoimplement on my system, or if I'll have to set it up myself
[10:04] <bert> q: does anybody knows how to open .zip files in my kubuntu 6.06 dapper? thnx
[10:04] <php-freak> How do I access what loads up in the beginning of a session?
[10:05] <crimsun> Necros: it won't be "by default" since you've already gotten an installation.
[10:05] <Necros> alright, thank you
[10:05] <[Relic] > Is there anything that will give weather information and actually work?
[10:05] <php-freak> How do I access what loads up in the beginning of a session?
[10:06] <snake[gone] > Hows everyone doin
[10:06] <metatecque> howdy snake - you don't know me - but you found the right OS
[10:07] <snake[gone] > metatecque, Ive been running *buntu for over a year now, id say I have ;-)
[10:07] <snake[gone] > hey Admiral_Chicago
[10:08] <php-freak> How do I access what loads up in the beginning of a session?
[10:08] <Admiral_Chicago> how is it going snake[gone]
[10:08] <snake[gone] > Man no one I used to talk to is in here any more
[10:08] <snake[gone] > Admiral_Chicago, Not too shabby
[10:08] <bert> does anybody knows how to open .zip files in my kubuntu 6.06 dapper? thnx
[10:08] <snake[gone] > !zip
[10:08] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:09] <[Relic] > kweather doesn't seem to ever take a station even if you edit the info  :(
[10:09] <bert> my ark always prompts a random error when opening a zip fil
[10:09] <snake[gone] > [Relic] , last time I used kweather it was broke :-(
[10:10] <[Relic] > still is, any other options?
[10:10] <metatecque> bert: make sure you have the command line operator for zip i.e. sudo apt-get install zip
[10:11] <bert> command line used ->says nothing changed...
[10:12] <metatecque> bert: I am running the same version as you and I can't see why it shouldn't work
[10:12] <bert> me neither, that's why i'm asking
[10:13] <bert> i just open ark, then file,open,select the zip and get a random error
[10:13] <metatecque> what does the random error say?
[10:14] <bert> "ther was a fault while opening archive
[10:14] <bert> "
[10:14] <[Relic] > hah!  got it working now if I could find non-metrics  :)
[10:14] <metatecque> hmmm - try a different zip file
[10:15] <bert> oh damn, it's the file that was corrupt, got it from the amsn official site (skins)
[10:15] <bert> 2 files of the 3 i wanted where corrupt
[10:15] <graft> erm... how do i get konsole to keep my encoding settings at some particular default (utf8)?
[10:16] <sNaKe> Man its been so long since I used KDE.. I shouldn't be in here, i'm going to end up reinstalling it and taking up diskspace :-D
[10:16] <Necros> eh, diskspace is cheap
[10:16] <[Relic] > now I need to find the config for the kweatherservice
[10:17] <MinceR> hi
[10:17] <graft> the config for kweather is there when you right-click the kweather applet...
[10:17] <metatecque> MinceR: Hello
[10:18] <MinceR> in adept, debconf fails to use the kde frontend, giving the message "dpkg-preconfigure: cannot connect to X server :0.0" -- how do i fix this? do i need to use xhost so that root can access the x server? (even though it's run from kdesu)
[10:18] <MinceR> i'm using ubuntu+ kubuntu-desktop
[10:18] <hermesreg> alguien me echa una mano para configurar kmail para recibir los emails de hotmail
[10:18] <graft> MinceR: if it's run through sudo, it ought to work anyway, but try xhost and see if it works...
[10:18] <hermesreg> bye im not patient
[10:19] <MinceR> can i expect to work with the next package it tries to configure after the change?
[10:19] <metatecque> Mincer: try using gksu
[10:19] <MinceR> i'll try that next time, then.
[10:19] <graft> what? you can disable access restrictions with xhost for your entire x session
[10:19] <BluesKaj> MinceR,  how about kde desktop
[10:19] <graft> so until you start a new one, it will work
[10:20] <MinceR> BluesKaj: what do you mean?
[10:20] <Necros> Snake, you can get a 9 GB harddrive for only 5 bucks, new.
[10:20] <sNaKe> Necros, so? :-)
[10:21] <sNaKe> I got plenty of disk space
[10:21] <sNaKe> But installing KDE tends to make things ugly, the two DMs dont get along quiet well
[10:21] <Lord_Flasheart> hi, i have managed to turn off the menu bar and browsing bar in konqueror
[10:21] <Lord_Flasheart> does anyone know how to turn them back on again?
[10:21] <Vladdy> congratulations ;P
[10:22] <Lord_Flasheart> is there a key combo?
[10:22] <graft> Lord_Flasheart: kcontrol
[10:22] <graft> Lord_Flasheart: or ctrl-m
[10:23] <Lord_Flasheart> awesome
[10:23] <Lord_Flasheart> thanks loads graft
[10:23] <Lord_Flasheart> you are a hero of the highest magnitude
[10:23] <graft> i always found that annoying
[10:23] <Lord_Flasheart> :)
[10:23] <graft> if you didn't bother to learn the keycode, it's a bitch and a half figuring out how to get it back
[10:23] <metatecque> Q? has anyone done a wiki on keyboard shortcuts
[10:23] <metatecque> ?
[10:24] <Lord_Flasheart> is there an option in kcontrol somewhere aswell then?
[10:24] <BluesKaj> in the run command
[10:24] <graft> um, maybe not...
[10:25] <Necros> Snake, if you've got plenty of disk space, why sweat running KDE?
[10:25] <Necros> Run them in seperate installations
[10:25] <sNaKe> because as I said, that tends to make both DEs ugly :-)
[10:25] <Lord_Flasheart> groovy, well thanks dude
[10:25] <sNaKe> lol thats okay man, i'm on a gnome kick atm, when KDE4 is released, ill be back
[10:25] <Lord_Flasheart> i must back to work
[10:26] <Necros> Even on seperate partitions?
[10:26] <sNaKe> no not on seperate partitions sheesh
[10:26] <Necros> well then... XD
[10:26] <graft> i can't deal with gnome, man
[10:26] <graft> fonts look so much better in kde
[10:26] <BluesKaj> g-nome needs a new project :>)
[10:27] <Necros> I'd rather XFCE then gnome
[10:27] <metatecque> I can deal with knome for about as long as it takes to run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:28] <sNaKe> well compiz and xgl worked with gnome, and ive just become used to it :-)
[10:28] <metatecque> did I say knome?
[10:28] <Necros> yes
[10:28] <Red-Sox> How do I install a .deb package I've downloaded?
[10:28] <Necros> yes you did
[10:28] <sNaKe> (I ran KDE for about 8 months, ive been on gnome for about 4)
[10:28] <graft> metatecque: isn't this what a tty console is for?
[10:28] <sNaKe> Red-Sox, double click it
[10:28] <Red-Sox> ...
[10:28] <BluesKaj> kde upgrade
[10:29] <metatecque> well I didn't say I logged into gnome
[10:29] <Necros> or from konsole, dpkg -i <file name>.deb
[10:29] <metatecque> ctrl-alt-F1
[10:29] <Red-Sox> sNaKe: that just opens the archive
[10:29] <graft> sNaKe: beryl works fine with AIGLX and kde for me... thats what i'm using
[10:29] <sNaKe> Doesnt KDE have a package installer??
[10:29] <mando> hello
[10:29] <mando> after i upgraded to edgy
[10:29] <mando> when i try to run adept it doesnt run
[10:29] <mando> i get an error
[10:29] <sNaKe> graft, yes, notice Beryl, and AIGLX. Both of those work fine :-) I just got used to gnome during my Compiz/XGL days (I too am now on beryl and aiglx)
[10:30] <mando> adept could not run specifiec command
[10:30] <Admiral_Chicago> sNaKe: adept
[10:30] <graft> !enter | mando
[10:30] <ubotu> mando: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:30] <Admiral_Chicago> adept_manager
[10:30] <Necros> monkey
[10:30] <mando> ok sorry for the enter
[10:30] <mando> thank you
[10:30] <sNaKe> Admiral_Chicago, I ment for installing debs, I know at least in gnome I just double click and it has a dpkg -i front for it
[10:30] <sNaKe> installing downloaded debs**
[10:30] <Necros> will Beryl run on KDE?
[10:30] <ORiON-> [23:30]  <ubotu> mando: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Necros: ye
[10:31] <ORiON-> WTF!? smart bot
[10:31] <graft> yeah, beryl runs on KDE
[10:31] <sNaKe> Necros, yes
[10:31] <Necros> by the way, whats the IRC command for red-typing?
[10:31] <Red-Sox> thanks Necros
[10:31] <graft> it's weaker than kwin in a bunch of ways, but the eye candy, of course, is what counts
[10:31] <Necros> you're welcom
[10:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Necros: we don't allow colored lines in this channel :\
[10:31] <ORiON-> try CTRL+K
[10:31] <Necros> But when you directly address me, the text turns red...
[10:32] <graft> mando what's your error?
[10:32] <mando> i got it sorted
[10:32] <mando> thank you
[10:32] <graft> Necros: that's just your irc client doing that for you
[10:32] <Necros> ahhh
[10:32] <Necros> gotcha
[10:32] <graft> Necros: usually you can specify keywords to be highlighte as well
[10:32] <Necros> I'm still new to Konversation
[10:33] <Necros> I was using Gaim, but my friends all made fun of me for it
[10:33] <graft> Necros: see if you have a /hilight command
[10:33] <graft> bah, gaim is great
[10:33] <BluesKaj> gaim is for IMers
[10:33] <metatecque> Q? Is there a package for K that does what brightside does in G?
[10:33] <graft> true... i've never gotten used to gui IRC clients
[10:33] <graft> just seems wrong... like wordls colliding
[10:34] <graft> IRC must be in a console, damnit
[10:34] <Admiral_Chicago> Necros: you have true friends
[10:34] <Necros> ROFL
[10:34] <Admiral_Chicago> Necros: plus, red type is konversation highlighting your name
[10:34] <BluesKaj> graft, irssi
[10:34] <graft> BluesKaj: yah, that's me
[10:35] <BluesKaj> commandline junkie eh ?
[10:35] <graft> hmm, i've never seen anything like brightside for KDE
[10:35] <Admiral_Chicago> !brightsie
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brightsie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <Admiral_Chicago> oh well
[10:35] <graft> though i dunno why it wouldn't work on kde anyway...?
[10:36] <graft> i guess edge flipping wouldn't
[10:36] <Red-Sox> grr
[10:36] <Red-Sox> ksmoothdock SUCKS
[10:36] <Red-Sox> I guess that there aren't any good dock apps?
[10:36] <Necros> hehe
[10:36] <graft> almost by definition
[10:36] <graft> i was using OSXDocker for a while
[10:36] <Red-Sox> graft: and?
[10:36] <graft> um... what the heck was it called
[10:37] <Necros> Whats wrong with the panel, when you tell it to expand as contents require?
[10:37] <Red-Sox> Meh...
[10:37] <Red-Sox> I want zooming launchers on the bottom and everything else on the top
[10:37] <graft> http://xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/kxdocker/main.php
[10:37] <Party> hello. i have a simple bash script to adjust alsamixer settings in the .kde/Autostart folder. but it doesn't look like it's working. (Yes it is executable).  Wheres it located at
[10:38] <cloakable> tdd1984: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[10:39] <Red-Sox> aight graft, if you can walk me through it
[10:39] <Necros> \etc/X11
[10:39] <graft> Red-Sox: nah... i meant more as a personal project :P
[10:39] <Red-Sox> Hrmph
[10:39] <Red-Sox> :P
[10:39] <tdd1984> cloakable: do you think i should just reinstall it which I got all my same files
[10:39] <Red-Sox> ight
[10:39] <BluesKaj> tdd1984, startx
[10:39] <graft> that's what i did in the past to get that thing working
[10:39] <Necros> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:39] <Necros> there, thats better
[10:39] <graft> but then i gave up and just stuck with a non-zooming panel launcher
[10:39] <tdd1984> blueskaj: hw do I start x?
[10:39] <Red-Sox> graft: how was it?
[10:39] <Necros> run startx
[10:39] <Red-Sox> tdd1984: startx...
[10:39] <graft> it's okay... i just decided i hate zooming...
[10:40] <tdd1984> okay im running start x now
[10:40] <BluesKaj> tdd1984, type startx at the prompt
[10:40] <tdd1984> i did
[10:40] <Necros> what did it tell you?
[10:40] <tdd1984> building operating ysstem linux
[10:40] <graft> it has some neat features... recognizes launched applications, etc., adds them to the dock
[10:40] <tdd1984> BluesKaj: hold on let me red it
[10:40] <tdd1984> read it
[10:41] <tdd1984> see right before reboot i edit the xorg.conf
[10:41] <tdd1984> since then it wasn't rebooting
[10:42] <tdd1984> says problem parsing the config file
[10:42] <Necros> try this 'sudo cp xorg.conf~ xorg.conf'
[10:42] <eMaX_> re
[10:42] <tdd1984> line 101
[10:42] <Necros> from //etc/X11/
[10:42] <[Relic] > Hello :)
[10:42] <Necros> you just have a bad config file, thats all
[10:43] <[Relic] > repository firefox or one from the website?
[10:43] <tdd1984> okay it gave me a >
[10:43] <Necros> a what?
[10:43] <graft> repository firefox
[10:43] <tdd1984> >
[10:43] <tdd1984> thats it
[10:43] <Necros> hmm
[10:43] <[Relic] > firefox or mozilla fire fox?
[10:43] <graft> unless you're running feisty
[10:43] <Necros> do you have an nvidia card installed?
[10:43] <tdd1984> no
[10:44] <graft> um, one is a dummy for the other, anyway...
[10:44] <Necros> hmm
[10:44] <tdd1984> it said there was an error on line 101 in the xorg.conf file
[10:44] <tdd1984> i edit the xorg.conf right before i rebooted it
[10:44] <Necros> nano xorg.conf
[10:44] <Necros> check line 101
[10:44] <tdd1984> how do i open the file
[10:44] <tdd1984> with out being in linux
[10:44] <Necros> nano
[10:44] <tdd1984> so i can fix it
[10:44] <[Relic] > 104k must be the dummy then  :)
[10:44] <Necros> nano xorg.conf
[10:44] <tdd1984> nice
[10:44] <tdd1984> nano hehe :)
[10:44] <tdd1984> linux rock!
[10:44] <graft> tdd1984: your system can boot to a console, right?
[10:44] <Necros> I use nano for all things
[10:45] <tdd1984> only getting the shell right now
[10:45] <tdd1984> hold on guys
[10:45] <Necros> even when i have the gui
[10:45] <graft> tdd1984: yeah, that's "linux"
[10:45] <tdd1984> let me remove line 101 which was the line i added when it screwed up
[10:45] <Necros> you have to edit it with sudo if you want to save your changes
[10:45] <tdd1984> hw can i go straight to line 101
[10:45] <tdd1984> okay so sudo nano xorg.conf
[10:45] <eMaX_> anybody here got a fingerprint reader (bioapi) to work on ubuntu? It workfs for me for things like "su -", but it doesn't for things like screensaver etc.
[10:46] <eMaX_> particularly difficult to test as kdesu seems to cache the successful logins for some timeee
[10:46] <graft> tdd1984: ctrl-w,ctrl-t, 101
[10:47] <tdd1984> dangit trying to exit out of this
[10:47] <Necros> ctrl-x
[10:47] <graft> eMaX_: you can avoid that problem in one of two ways:
[10:48] <graft> eMaX_: either configure sudo to not keep tickets around for any length of time, or you can kill your timestamp using um... sudo -k i think
[10:48] <graft> damnit... does anyone have any idea how i can change my konsole encoding from whatever the heck it is to utf8 permanently?
[10:48] <tdd1984> okay i removed line 101
[10:48] <tdd1984> which was the line i put in
[10:48] <tdd1984> now let me try to reboot
[10:49] <angasule> graft: did you try Settings->Encoding (and then save as default)?
[10:49] <dettoaltrimenti> when you do 'sudo apt-get update' does that actually update apt-get, or does it update everything on your system?
[10:49] <graft> angasule: yeah, doesn't do shit...
[10:49] <Necros> you dont have to reboot...
[10:49] <Necros> just startx
[10:49] <bernielive> HI ALL
[10:49] <tdd1984> k
[10:49] <tdd1984> me new linx n00b
[10:49] <tdd1984> hold on
[10:49] <tdd1984> its doing something hold on
[10:50] <Necros> yay for doing something!
[10:50] <tdd1984> lol
[10:50] <eMaX_> graft any idea how to kill that for kdesu?
[10:50] <BluesKaj> prolly setting up
[10:50] <graft> eMaX_: kdesu uses same tickets as sudo... same deal, sudo -k
[10:50] <dettoaltrimenti> emax: kill what?
[10:50] <eMaX_> strange doesnt work
[10:51] <eMaX_> it still does no longer ask for a password. I try as normal user kdesu -c adept_manager -u root -n
[10:51] <Red-Sox> what browser do y'all use
[10:51] <graft> eMaX_: and then sudo -k says what?
[10:51] <cloakable> Konqueror
[10:52] <BluesKaj> FF
[10:52] <bernielive> same
[10:52] <MinceR> gn
[10:52] <Necros> Swiftfox/Firefox 3/Konq/Lynx
[10:52] <lupine_85> Konq
[10:52] <eMaX_> nothing
[10:52] <lupine_85> every time :)
[10:52] <Red-Sox> Wo the hell uses Lynx?
[10:52] <Red-Sox> WHY?
[10:52] <lupine_85> sometimes links2 - but only if the site doesn't support lynx
[10:52] <fdoving> !language
[10:52] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:53] <Red-Sox> fdoving: me?
[10:53] <Necros> when I'm playing an MMORPG, and I need to look something up, I use Lynx cause it wont slow things down
[10:53] <lupine_85> well, I'd use firefox but it keeps complaing about a missing display. Is there a fix for that?
[10:53] <Lam_> i need a program to check to see if a hard drive is potentially failing. suggestions?
[10:53] <graft> eMaX_: um, how does sudo itself behave after sudo -k?
[10:53] <fdoving> Red-Sox: you too, i notice a negative trend.
[10:53] <Red-Sox> fdoving: who was that directed to?
[10:53] <eMaX_> correctly as you say. sudo -k forces a password next time su is used
[10:54] <eMaX_> only for kdesu this is different
[10:54] <Necros> tdd1984: are you out there?
[10:54] <graft> is hell a bad word? that's a bit strong, isn't it?
[10:54] <fdoving> Red-Sox: those who feel guilty.
[10:54] <Red-Sox> lupine_85: MMORPGs for linux?
[10:54] <Necros> planeshift
[10:54] <Necros> Cedega-run
[10:54] <Red-Sox> Cedega's expensive
[10:54] <Necros> Runescape if i'm feeling like a n00b
[10:55] <graft> lupine_85: missing display?
[10:55] <Necros> Red-Sox: No comment
[10:55] <BluesKaj> Necros, tdd1984 is still listed
[10:55] <tdd1984> yes
[10:55] <Red-Sox> LOL @ Necros]
[10:55] <tdd1984> necros: its wrking
[10:55] <Red-Sox> oops
[10:55] <Necros> sweet
[10:55] <[Relic] > can you replace konquer with firefox?
[10:55] <tdd1984> necros: how do i get my wireless card working
[10:55] <lupine_85> yeah. For some reason, my server in london isn't running X
[10:55] <BluesKaj> tdd1984, cool
[10:55] <tdd1984> yup :)
[10:55] <lupine_85> weird, I know
[10:55] <tdd1984> i messed the config file up, just didn't know how to get back to it
[10:55] <Necros> tdd1984: what kind of card is it, and what version of Kubuntu are you running?
[10:55] <[Relic] > and if so how?  :)
[10:56] <graft> lupine_85: um, how would you run FF without X?
[10:56] <tdd1984> newest kubuntu
[10:56] <Necros> I mess my config up all the time, had to restore this time
[10:56] <tdd1984> let me message you guys back when i get home
[10:56] <Necros> 6.10 or 7.04?
[10:56] <lupine_85> graft: exactly
[10:56] <eMaX_> ok I just gonna kill X
[10:56] <eMaX_> brb
[10:56] <Necros> edgy or feisty?
[10:56] <lupine_85> [21:52]  <Red-Sox> WHY? [do you use lynx]
[10:57] <Necros> tdd1984: what kind of card is it?
[10:57] <eMaX> re
[10:58] <graft> eMaX: try kdesu -s
[10:58] <graft> err damnit
[10:59] <The_Machine> what's a good tool to mount iso images in ubuntu (like you would use daemon tools for in Win?)
[10:59] <Necros> mount
[11:00] <The_Machine> :P
[11:00] <Necros> mount -o -loop -t iso9660 <file name>.iso
[11:00] <The_Machine> i can't remember that iso9660 every time
[11:00] <The_Machine> actually
[11:00] <Necros> mount -o -loop -t iso9660 <file name>.iso /mnt
[11:00] <The_Machine> the whole command doesn't really make sense to me
[11:00] <The_Machine> isn't there something that will make it "nice"?
[11:00] <The_Machine> not to say i refuse to learh
[11:00] <The_Machine> learn, even
[11:00] <Necros> what do you mean by nice?
[11:00] <Vladdy> lol
[11:01] <Vladdy> try mount -o loop <file> <mountpoint>
[11:01] <graft> um, yeah, no dash before loop
[11:01] <Necros> ahh
[11:01] <Necros> my bad
[11:01] <The_Machine> nice like, i click on the .iso and i say "mount this shit"
[11:01] <lupine_85> as in, GUI?
[11:01] <The_Machine> :)
[11:01] <Necros> eww
[11:01] <weswh-> i have an HFS (macosx) partition that i want to get my data off of. when i mount it (even with uid=1000, read only) i can access the mount, but most of the folders have 'lock' icons on them. permission denied. if i access it with kdesu konqueror, i can't copy files to my drive. it says they do not exist. when i tried cp from a clean root shell, it says 'ommiting folder', and quits.
[11:01] <trappist> The_Machine: language please
[11:02] <The_Machine> oh, sorry
[11:02] <lupine_85> make a shellscript and associate the MIME type with it?
[11:02] <lupine_85> it's a trivial thing
[11:02] <The_Machine> lupine_85: you're going over my head.
[11:02] <lupine_85> ...
[11:02] <The_Machine> i appreciate that you suggest such a thing..
[11:02] <matthew> I'm having trouble getting kaffeine to load. I just installed edgy, but I am not able to play anything with kaffiene. When I click on a media file or the icon, I get a little "loading" placeholder in the kicker panel, but then it disappears after 20 seconds or so. I'm using KDE 3.5.5 and Qt 3.3.6. Anyone know what's going on?
[11:02] <The_Machine> but i've never written a shell script before.
[11:02] <lupine_85> create a file in /usr/bin called "mount_iso"
[11:02] <weswh-> anyone have any ideas? i don't know if it is inheriting permissions from the macos system or what. it's an external firewire harddrive. when i was in there with kdesu i could play mp3s off of it and such. how can i play a file, but not copy the file? :/
[11:02] <graft> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=11577
[11:02] <graft> for you, The_Machine
[11:03] <The_Machine> Thanks, graft.
[11:03] <Necros> KIso perhaps?
[11:03] <Necros> bye everyone
[11:04] <lupine_85> make it read "#!/bin/bash \ kdesu mount -o loop $1 -t iso9660 /mnt/iso \ exit 0" (\ is new lines; modify /mnt/iso if needed). Make it executable, then associate .iso file types with that script (using konqueror).
[11:04] <The_Machine> lupine :)
[11:04] <The_Machine> haha
[11:04] <lupine_85> seriously. that's it
[11:04] <eMaX> in kubuntu, which is the default (graphical) runlevel?
[11:04] <lupine_85> default is 2, but all the runlevels are identical
[11:04] <lupine_85> well, 2-5
[11:05] <The_Machine> i believe you, but you're approaching the problem from a perspective that isn't considering your audience
[11:05] <eMaX> ????
[11:05] <The_Machine> again, not that i don't appreciate your answer
[11:05] <lupine_85> remove kdm from one if you don't want it to be graphical
[11:05] <lupine_85> do you really want a deb package for something so trivial?
[11:05] <graft> hey eMaX - kdesu can be whacked via kdesu -s
[11:05] <The_Machine> when you started using linux, would you have understood what you just said?
[11:05] <lupine_85> yes
[11:05] <The_Machine> how?!
[11:05] <The_Machine> that's amazing.
[11:06] <lupine_85> I knew how to "create a file"
[11:06] <eMaX> tried didnt work
[11:06] <graft> probably because of years of unix use
[11:06] <graft> what! damnit... okay, i got nothing, then
[11:06] <lupine_85> my first *nix experience was red hat 6...
[11:06] <The_Machine> how did you know how to create a file?
[11:06] <lupine_85> I hated it :D
[11:06] <The_Machine> heh.
[11:06] <The_Machine> i'm not doubting that you knew
[11:06] <lupine_85> because I knew that "gedit" was an editor. And I knew how to go to file->save
[11:06] <The_Machine> i'm just surprised that you were able to intuitively grasp such a thing.
[11:06] <The_Machine> Okay
[11:06] <The_Machine> i know gedit is an editor too
[11:06] <lupine_85> the hard bit would be working out you needed to be root to save it
[11:07] <lupine_85> although correctly it should go in ~/bin - but ubuntu doesn't have that, for some unknown reason
[11:07] <dettoaltrimenti> what's the best messenger program for kubuntu?
[11:07] <graft> mkdir ~/bin?
[11:07] <lupine_85> kopete :)
[11:07] <BluesKaj> !commands
[11:07] <graft> gaim
[11:07] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:08] <lupine_85> graft: then the fun of adding it to $PATH... I was going for "basic" here
[11:08] <verzonnen> lupine_85: why not paste the script and instructions on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:08] <graft> lupine_85: eh... still pretty basic, but ok
[11:08] <lupine_85> verzonnen: why pastebin 1 line?
[11:08] <verzonnen> the chmod and all
[11:08] <matthew> Kaffeine will not open for any kind of media format. It loads, then closes. What can I do?
[11:08] <graft> use kmplayer
[11:08] <graft> kaffeine stinks
[11:09] <RadiantFire> check your process list
[11:09] <lupine_85> kaffeine++
[11:09] <RadiantFire> no, kaffeine is amazing...
[11:09] <oslo> does someone success to use gmailfs ??
[11:09] <verzonnen> lupine_85: gives ppl time to chew it over;
[11:09] <matthew> I like kaffeine...
[11:09] <RadiantFire> sometimes a kaffine process is left running in zombie mode or something
[11:09] <graft> i've never had good luck with it...
[11:09] <matthew> kmplayer, hmm?
[11:09] <RadiantFire> do killall kaffeine in the terminal then try
[11:09] <fariborz> hi all
[11:09] <graft> kmplayer just works... why not use it?
[11:09] <RadiantFire> matthew: try killall kaffeine in the a terminal
[11:09] <lupine_85> verzonnen: true, but it looks like The_Machine has another solution anyway
[11:09] <verzonnen> lupine_85: just a sugestion
[11:09] <matthew> thanks...doing it now
[11:09] <RadiantFire> matthew: I had that problem, it seems to be a slight glitch
[11:09] <fariborz> is any one germanspeaking here?
[11:09] <dettoaltrimenti> matthew: you probably need to install some codecs: go to adept and see what packages are available
[11:10] <fariborz> i need help
[11:10] <graft> !de
[11:10] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:10] <matthew> RadiantFire, thanks so much, it's working now!
[11:10] <matthew> I love you!
[11:10] <RadiantFire> :-)
[11:10] <matthew> RadiantFire, in a platonic sense, of course...lol
[11:10] <fariborz> who can give me some advises?
[11:10] <RadiantFire> kmplayer is kind of barebones compared to kaffeine, its nice, but I wuold feel sad if you were forced ot use it
[11:11] <graft> !ask | fariborz
[11:11] <ubotu> fariborz: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:11] <lupine_85> I use kaffeine solely for the playlists
[11:11] <fariborz> oh tnks
[11:11] <fariborz> oki
[11:11] <RadiantFire> fariborz: gehen se ins di #kubuntu-de kanael
[11:11] <RadiantFire> wow, I fail at typing in german...
[11:11] <fariborz> wo ist das?
[11:12] <RadiantFire> sie konnen /join #kubuntu-de machen und dan sind sie in die kanael
[11:12] <graft> man, i am so dissatisfied with spamassassin
[11:12] <fariborz> how can i  use windwos xp boot loader instead of the shit grub
[11:12] <graft> !spam
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <graft> why would oyu want to use the XP boot loader? it won't let you dual boot linux
[11:13] <lupine_85> there's a haxored version of it that can load linux
[11:13] <lupine_85> but yeah, it's worse even than lilo
[11:13] <fariborz> i had that once. i  had windows xp and knoppx in my boot.ini
[11:13] <graft> but, if memory serves, you can get a utility called fixmbr or mbrfix for windoze that will restore your windows boot loader
[11:13] <graft> sometimes accessible on the windows xp install disc
[11:14] <fariborz> however does anyone know how ?
[11:14] <graft> anyone got anything better than spamassassin going on?
[11:14] <RadiantFire> bogofilter?
[11:14] <graft> fariborz: google?
[11:14] <fariborz> lol
[11:15] <fariborz> didnt find any help there
[11:15] <graft> bogofilter... hm
[11:15] <RadiantFire> its built in to kmail
[11:15] <dettoaltrimenti> I just installed edgy, and there are far fewer programs than with dapper. Is VLC not available for 6.10?
[11:15] <fariborz> ok  here is the net question
[11:15] <RadiantFire> although I would be careful using it on an imap server
[11:15] <dettoaltrimenti> I mean, programs listed in apt-get
[11:15] <graft> not to worry, i'm still using nmh
[11:15] <fariborz> how can i update my kubunto version 6.06  to 6.1??
[11:15] <fdoving> !upgrade | fariborz
[11:15] <ubotu> fariborz: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[11:16] <lupine_85> dettoaltrimenti: are all your repositories enabled?
[11:16] <lupine_85> !info vlc edgy
[11:16] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[11:16] <lupine_85> like universe, for instance...
[11:16] <lupine_85> !repos
[11:16] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:17] <smaggard> where is ubuntus mysql databases located?
[11:17] <smaggard> i looked in var but maybe i just didnt see them
[11:18] <dettoaltrimenti> lupine: how do I check? I'm not sure, just installed about 15 minutes ago
[11:19] <fdoving> smaggard: /var/lib/mysql/
[11:19] <Lam__> if your system has two hard drives: main (with kde installed), and secondary (for backups), and you hear a verbal click from the tower (potentially indicating a failing hard drive), and soon after kde starts to freeze on itself with a "malformatted error", which hard drive would you assume failed?
[11:20] <smaggard> ah thx
[11:20] <dettoaltrimenti> thanks lupine
[11:20] <graft> you know what, bayes filters suck.
[11:21] <graft> how many spams must i get that say "Investor alert blah-di-blah" before they figure it out?
[11:21] <fariborz> the  comand with gksu doesnt work
[11:22] <graft> Lam_: why don't you just disable the secondary one? or run a filesystem check on both?
[11:22] <dettoaltrimenti> is there a page describing the legal issues that explain why there is universe/multiverse?
[11:22] <Lam_> graft: how do i do the latter?
[11:22] <graft> fsck
[11:23] <Lam_> graft: ok thanks
[11:26] <oslo> does someone here has already success to use gmailfs ??
[11:27] <graft> oslo: why do you want gmailfs?
[11:29] <oslo> graft> to be able to import/export some files from/to gmail like if it was a partition
[11:29] <dettoaltrimenti> should I add the 'restricted' repository? is that where the mp3 related packages are?
[11:29] <graft> right, i understand what gmailfs is, but it's not a very good solution for anything, is it?
[11:30] <oslo> graft> it could be nice
[11:30] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[11:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:30] <cloakable> Konqueror freezes up while rendering webpages. How can I fix that?
[11:31] <BluesKaj> use FF :)
[11:33] <fignew> BluesKaj: I think he prefers to use better software than firefox...
[11:34] <php-freak_> hey guys how can i disable the touch pad mouse?
[11:34] <graft> php-freak_: a sharp rock
[11:34] <fignew> cloakable: run konqueror from the command prompt
[11:34] <brett_> A website wont allow me to register with them. It says this ip is already registered. Is there an easy way to hide your ip?
[11:35] <graft> php-freak_: or a really good dielectric, maybe...
[11:35] <fignew> and see if there's any output
[11:35] <sercik> disconnect and reconnect again if you have a dinamic IP
[11:35] <fignew> php-freak_: ignore these idiots
[11:35] <fignew> php-freak_: 1 sec and I'll tell you
[11:35] <brett_> and what if i dont?
[11:36] <fignew> php-freak_: install ksynaptics
[11:36] <graft> brett_: um, what sort of registration does it have? login/password?
[11:36] <fignew> !ksynaptics
[11:36] <ubotu> ksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional.  Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[11:39] <graft> um... brett_ they seem to be really dumb
[11:39] <brett_> graft: the webpage designers?
[11:39] <graft> yeah
[11:39] <mustafa> How can I make kubuntu write on NTFS file system?
[11:39] <graft> i can't imagine why that would possibly be a restriction
[11:39] <brett_> it seems really simple
[11:40] <fignew> brett_: use a proxy
[11:40] <fignew> or!
[11:40] <brett_> they do not want people to make multiple accounts
[11:40] <fignew> you could use the coral cache
[11:40] <brett_> you could kinda cheat if you did
[11:40] <brett_> fignew: i tried a few put they dont like me using posts
[11:40] <brett_> fignew: they are worried i am hacking into something
[11:41] <fignew> http://www.website.url.com.nyud.net:8080
[11:41] <fignew> try that
[11:41] <fignew> replace the URL ;)
[11:41] <oslo> does someone here has already success to use gmailfs ??
[11:41] <fignew> !ntfs
[11:41] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:41] <php-freak_> where can i find out what every one of these packages do?
[11:41] <fignew> !ntfs-3g
[11:41] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[11:41] <brett_> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at www.punchme.net.nyud.net:8080.
[11:42] <php-freak_> also any one know anything about my sound card? its a onboard card? its reading fine, but does not play
[11:42] <sithergean> Kubuntu rocks, whoever made it deserves 100 freaking gold medals
[11:42] <fignew> you get that mustafa?
[11:42] <brett_> hmm.
[11:42] <fignew> thousands of people made it sithergean ;)
[11:42] <mustafa> yes i knew that
[11:42] <mustafa> but it didnt work
[11:42] <php-freak_> hey i install the package, now how i get to the configuration?
[11:42] <brett_> can someone maybe go to the site and sign up for me... it just takes a second
[11:42] <fignew> is it an internal drive?
[11:43] <eilker> !printer
[11:43] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:43] <mustafa> yes its
[11:43] <sithergean> then thousands of people deserve thousands of gold medals :p
[11:43] <brett_> fignew: the simplest solution is for someone to sign up for me. Do you mind it is just three fields?
[11:44] <mustafa> 1st... thanks for helping me
[11:44] <fignew> but your IP still wont work...
[11:44] <brett_> it will
[11:44] <brett_> i am sure of it
[11:44] <brett_> i just need someone to create the account
[11:44] <fignew> mustafa: have you edited /etc/fstab ?
[11:45] <mustafa> whats that?
[11:45] <fignew> 1 sec brett_
[11:45] <php-freak_> fignew: i install it, but how do i use it?
[11:45] <brett_> fignew: sure
[11:45] <fignew> 1 sec php-freak_
[11:46] <php-freak_> fignew; okay thanks
[11:46] <fignew> mustafa: sudo kate /etc/fstab
[11:46] <fignew> then look for the mount point
[11:47] <fignew> php-freak_: <alt> f2
[11:47] <fignew> then type in kcontrol
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> is there a port you need to leave open to make sure you get the update notification?
[11:48] <mustafa> I write this in a usal terminal?
[11:48] <fignew> TheGateKeeper: no
[11:48] <fignew> mustafa: yes
[11:48] <php-freak_> i hit alt f2
[11:48] <php-freak_> but nothing happen
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> thanx fignew
[11:48] <php-freak_> i got it through running the command
[11:49] <mustafa> error bad device
[11:49] <fignew> php-freak_: kcontrol?
[11:49] <fignew> mustafa: bad device what?
[11:49] <mustafa> invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[11:49] <php-freak_> yes
[11:49] <php-freak_> it says kontrol center
[11:50] <fignew> mustafa: did you follow the guide at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 ... that has what I was about to do...
[11:50] <fignew> ok php-freak_, search for synaptics
[11:50] <mustafa> ok
[11:50] <mustafa> thanks
[11:51] <php-freak_> nice
[11:51] <fignew> brett_: msg me your email
[11:51] <php-freak_> fignew: kubuntu is way differnet then ubuntu, maybe I can get my sound card working now im usuing kubuntu
[11:51] <brett_> fignew: how do i message?
[11:51] <Moniix> hello=) how do i get in to efnet?
[11:51] <brett_> err wait
[11:51] <fignew> /msg fignew email@address
[11:51] <brett_> fignew: i figured it out
[11:51] <fignew> ok
[11:51] <brett_> fignew: set up NoSpin as the userid pls
[11:52] <brett_> fignew: you didnt get the email huh
[11:52] <brett_> fignew: they blocked the message because i am unregistered
[11:52] <fignew> php-freak_: it's the same, though I'm sure we can get it to work
[11:52] <fignew> brett_: can you paste it in here?
[11:52] <php-freak_> fignew: thats what every one has said? what do you need to know if you think we can get it working?
[11:53] <brett_> fignew<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:53] <mustafa> bash: gksu: command not found
[11:54] <mustafa> whats that?
[11:54] <fignew> php-freak_: what type of soundcard?
[11:54] <fignew> what brand & model?
[11:54] <dettoaltrimenti> what is the kde equivalent of gedit?
[11:54] <fignew> mustafa: use kdesu instead
[11:54] <fignew> kate is the equiv. of gedit
[11:54] <mustafa> ok
[11:54] <fignew> KDE Advanced Text Editor
[11:54] <php-freak_> fignew: hold on, how do i find out again? I know theresa  control panel, but wheres it located at on kubuntu?
[11:55] <fignew> K menu -> system -> Kinfocenter
[11:56] <mustafa> file not found
[11:56] <TheGateKeeper> kate has built in terminal so it's better hehe
[11:56] <fignew> in the menu?
[11:56] <fignew> mustafa ^^
[11:57] <verzonnen> TheGateKeeper vim lets you execute commands from within s it's even better
[11:57] <matthew> verzonnen, but it is kind of hard to get the hang of...no mouse...
[11:57] <fignew> brett_: p/w should be in Email
[11:57] <verzonnen> matthew: It does, try it
[11:57] <brett_> fignew: thank you
[11:57] <verzonnen> matthew: vim
[11:58] <verzonnen> gvim
[11:58] <verzonnen> third time lucky
[11:58] <TheGateKeeper> verzonnen, I wouldn't know just can't get on with vim
[11:58] <matthew> verzonnen, wait, vim supports mouse?
[11:58] <fignew> I always use nano
[11:58] <verzonnen> matthew: gvim does
[11:58] <TheGateKeeper> me too
[11:58] <fignew> nano can be configured to support mouse :)
[11:58] <matthew> I like kate or kwrite myself...
[11:58] <matthew> verzonnen, oh, ok.
[11:59] <php-freak_> fignew: Intel 82801db-ICH4 (duplex)
[11:59] <php-freak_> its saying my synth devices not enabled in config
[11:59] <fignew> that doesn't matter... unless you want MIDI
[11:59] <php-freak_> not really
[11:59] <php-freak_> but thats the card i got and its not working
[12:00] <php-freak_> intel 82801db-ich4 with ad1981b
[12:00] <verzonnen> nice thing with gvim is that you learn all the keyboard shortcuts and vim will become very powerfull in a short time
[12:00] <fignew> in commandprompt does alsamixer show anything?
[12:00] <php-freak_> hold on
[12:00] <php-freak_> yes, and everything is configured propely
[12:01] <fignew> ok, fiddle with each of the volumes
[12:01] <fignew> down then up
[12:01] <php-freak_> okay
[12:01] <fignew> all of them
[12:01] <php-freak_> okay
[12:01] <php-freak_> did it
[12:02] <php-freak_> fignew: you there
[12:02] <fignew> yea
[12:02] <php-freak_> Got a solution for this?
[12:03] <fignew> cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp
[12:03] <fignew> ctrl + c to stop
[12:03] <php-freak_> fignew is that direct at me
[12:03] <fignew> yes
[12:03] <php-freak_> says "device or resource busy"
[12:04] <fignew> whee
[12:04] <php-freak_> lol what
[12:04] <fignew> type killall artsd
[12:04] <fignew> then try again
[12:04] <php-freak_> now says no such file or directory
[12:04] <alessandro_> I've installed kubuntu 6.10 but the sound system doesn't work.... With 6.06 all work fine! Anybody know why?
[12:05] <php-freak_> lol
[12:05] <php-freak_> fignew: said not directory, or file
[12:05] <fignew> I'll look into it in a minute alessandro_
[12:06] <php-freak_> fignew: you there man
[12:06] <fignew> multitasking
[12:06] <fignew> on the phone
[12:06] <verzonnen> php-freak_: ls -l /dev/null /dev/dsp
[12:06] <php-freak_> k
[12:06] <fignew> very awkard
[12:06] <fignew> no
[12:06] <fignew> don't do that
[12:07] <php-freak_> k
[12:07] <php-freak_> whats that do
[12:07] <alessandro_> fignew: I've a apple powerbook g4 but I read that the same problem have been detective by many people...
[12:07] <verzonnen> lists the files
[12:07] <fignew> :P
[12:07] <fignew> I thought it was ln
[12:07] <php-freak_> fignew: k, what should i do nw
[12:07] <fignew> ls won't do anything
[12:07] <verzonnen> lol
[12:07] <mewshi> can someone help me with samba?
[12:07] <fignew> 1 sec
[12:08] <verzonnen> mewshi: sama.org has a lot of examples
[12:08] <fignew> just use the KDE samba configuration tools
[12:08] <dettoaltrimenti> when you start a new session that is a terminal (like ctrl alt f6) how do you get it to run the gui- windows system? I mean, what program do you run
[12:08] <mewshi> but i just want to get it done
[12:08] <dettoaltrimenti> I use edgy
[12:09] <mewshi> not learn every damned thing about it
[12:09] <fignew> php-freak_: working on a method to find out what's making the resource busy
[12:09] <verzonnen> mewshi: what do you want to do ?
[12:09] <fignew> mewshi: just use the KDE samba configuration tools
[12:09] <verzonnen> mewshi: share files?
[12:09] <php-freak_> fignew: okay cool, hopefully we get this working cause its been stressin me out :)
[12:09] <mewshi> ???
[12:09] <mewshi> there are kde samba config tools?
[12:09] <verzonnen> mewshi: there are
[12:09] <TheGateKeeper> mewshi, install samba then go to system settings --> shares and set your shares up
[12:10] <mewshi> i just want to make it accessible from any comp on the network
[12:10] <fignew> php-freak_: are you sure you did killall artsd
[12:10] <fignew> perhaps sudo killall artsd
[12:10] <TheGateKeeper> mewshi, if all you want to do is look at a windows computer from linux you can do that with konqueor, just navigate to it
[12:10] <fignew> the error you gave didn't match what it should have been
[12:11] <php-freak_> yes postive
[12:11] <php-freak_> wait
[12:11] <php-freak_> it said no process killed this time
[12:11] <fignew> ok
[12:11] <php-freak_> probaly cause it was already killed
[12:11] <php-freak_> problay*
[12:11] <fignew> try cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp
[12:11] <fignew> again
[12:12] <php-freak_> okay hold on its doing something
[12:12] <fignew> you should hear static
[12:12] <fignew> if you turn up the volume on the speakers
[12:12] <php-freak_> when?
[12:12] <fignew> the whole time
[12:12] <fignew> until you press ctrl + c
[12:13] <php-freak_> i don't hear static
[12:13] <fignew> but it's just sitting there?
[12:13] <php-freak_> yes
[12:13] <php-freak_> i toggled with all the sound settings too
[12:13] <fignew> is it surround sound?
[12:14] <php-freak_> its a laptop, sometimes it sound like a surround sound


[01:12] <micahg> a dist-upgrade right now might remove xubuntu-desktop so watch out (should be fixed after the indicator plugin builds in 6 hours)
[10:39] <knome> mr_pouit, micahg: is there any technical updates this week worth mentioning in our mail to the release list?
[10:42] <mr_pouit> mmh, nothing impacting other flavours
[10:43] <knome> something bigger then?
[10:44] <knome> i mean, even if it didn't affect ;]
[10:48] <mr_pouit> mmh, micahg synced a new upstream bugfix release of ristretto, and I added patches in xfdesktop4 to support single click to open items, and I've backported from 4.9.x the new mouse/touchpad dialog for xfce4-settings
[10:48] <mr_pouit> I guess that's all for the "bigger" things
[10:49] <knome> ok
[10:49] <knome> madnick, will you gather that up?
[11:27] <madnick> knome: yeah, ill write it down and send the email later tonight when i get home
[13:15] <knome> madnick, thanks
[15:08] <holstein> those bot commands always seem like they will save time...
[15:09] <GridCube> :P
[15:11] <astraljava> holstein: Err... please elaborate?
[15:12] <holstein> astraljava: that should have went to *offtopic... it was just in reference to some activity in the main channel
[15:12] <astraljava> Oh ok. Main channel for Xubuntu, as in #xubuntu? If so, then I missed it, as I'm not there.
[15:13] <holstein> yeah... i just checked, and figured thats why you were not in the know
[15:13] <astraljava> Gotcha.
[23:24] <knome> micahg, what's up with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/murrine-themes/+bug/856939
[23:25] <micahg> knome: let me do that now
[23:25] <ochosi> :)
[23:25] <knome> :)
[23:26] <knome> ochosi, want to go through the slideshow now?
[23:27] <ochosi> nah, sorry, too tired already
[23:27] <knome> okay
[23:27] <knome> i'll prepare the stuff then so we can get working asap
[23:27] <ochosi> ok, thanks
[23:27] <ochosi> as i said, probably not until after fosdem
[23:27] <knome> yup, np
[23:28] <astraljava> knome: I fail to see the unusability, but meh. :)
[23:28] <knome> astraljava, white on light gray?
[23:29] <knome> well it's not *unusable*, but it's not really as accessible as it could, and it's not pretty either
[23:29] <astraljava> Well, I have it here, and I can totally use it. Although I always prefer key shortcuts, but still... I maintain my meh.
[23:30] <knome> ochosi, https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-team/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/xubuntu-precise
[23:36] <ochosi> knome: ok, thanks. i'll go get some sleep now
[23:36] <knome> oki :) sleep tight
[23:36] <ochosi> ty, have a lot of work tomorrow again, so i'll need it
[23:36] <ochosi> have fun y'all!
[23:37] <knome> heh, strenght and honor with work ;)
[23:37] <knome> -typos
[23:37] <ochosi> lol
[23:37] <knome> like the romans used to say
[23:37] <knome> roma victor
[23:37] <ochosi> is that from that stupid hercules tv-series?
[23:37] <astraljava> That, or Xena the Warrior Princess.
[23:37] <knome> gladiator at least
[23:37] <ochosi> hehe
[23:37] <knome> but i suppose that's historically true
[23:37] <astraljava> What, Xena?
[23:38] <knome> makes much sense to say that to soldiers who are most probably going to die
[23:38] <knome> no, "strength and honour"
[23:38] <astraljava> Heheh. Gotcha.
[23:38] <astraljava> I've always wondered about it. It's like that Gary Moore song:"No flag has ever stopped a buller from a gun."
[23:39] <astraljava> How do you, exactly, motivate soldiers to die for their country?
[23:39] <astraljava> But I suppose it's not really a matter for this channel.  Yeah, we're dying for our apps. Right.
[23:40] <knome> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hei6xjHbiKU&t=00m39s
[23:41] <astraljava> Always cracks me up.
[23:41] <knome> i hope only figuratively..
[23:44] <astraljava> Well, yeah. Also, "Da bull is not here" and "I will be a martyr" are hilarious.
[23:44] <knome> not as hilarious.
[23:45] <knome> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXiIV_ecS88 is hilarious :)
[23:45] <astraljava> Maybe. It's hard to tell. I'm still a bit overloaded with all Kummeli. We were in Boston for 5 weeks back in Oct. - Nov. '09, and the lead dev kept rotating those. And also the Lauri Tähkä parody.
[23:45] <knome> haven't seen any tähkä parody, and don't want to :P
[23:46] <astraljava> Nah, ...Karvattomat never did it for me.
[23:46] <astraljava> Oh c'mon, you know you want to.
[23:46] <knome> very good groove
[23:47] <astraljava> There were others, as well. Irina, I believe, and I forget who.
[23:47] <knome> meh
[23:47] <astraljava> Bah.
[23:47]  * knome lols at "matalalla profiililla"
[23:55] <knome> astraljava, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gmZPrmEUQc&t=00m59s ;))
[23:56] <astraljava> I'm sorry, they still don't do it for me.
[23:57] <astraljava> But, I do need to pee now.
[23:57] <astraljava> It may, or may not, be related.
[23:57] <knome> don't pee in your pants
[23:59] <astraljava> Managed not to.


[00:27] <slangasek> nacc: ok; so I can't reproduce your build failure, but I am seeing annoying behavior where if I try to simplify the rules, I'm getting (empty) binary packages spit out for all the stanzas listed in debian/control.  It seems like the -a option is somehow taking precedence over the -p options; I'll futz with this some more to try to figure it out
[00:35] <slangasek> looks like the grep-dctrl might be the simplest solution anyway :/
[00:36] <nacc> slangasek: yeah, i tried to find better ways, but settled on that. I can take it as an action item to try and clean it up further
[13:37] <yofel> so, I'm a bit confused. Why was an autopkgtest run for a superseded version here? http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/p/plasma-framework/xenial/s390x/
[13:46] <mitya57> This may be because someone restarted the previously failed job
[18:26] <nacc> slangasek: fyi, the php-cache-lite regressions seems to be due to deprecation, i can see if i can silence that warning so the tests pass
[18:26] <nacc> slangasek: looking at php-html-safe, might be a real issue, but checking
[18:38] <nacc> slangasek: ok, php-html-safe is failing because of a bug in php-xml-htmlsax3, fixed in debian, will request a sync
[18:41] <nacc> slangasek: and i see why php7.0/php-defaults is hung up, that version of php-defaults needs a more current version of php7.0 than we have. I can do another merge, but would like your input as to what level you'd like to go to? Latest Debian (7.0.4-5) or the last 7.0.3 version (7.0.3-13)
[18:44] <nacc> slangasek: whichever way you decide, i think we can clear out the rest of the php stuff (I've filed bugs for several) from excuses page at that point


[02:43] <ball> Ugh.  My son's Xubuntu box hosed itself again.
[02:48] <ball> Perhaps I just need a newer version.
[03:50] <Unit193> ...Of Xubuntu or your son?
[03:50] <ball> Hah... Xubuntu
[03:54] <ball> brb, rebooting a thing...
[04:09] <ball> test
[04:10] <ball> Oh good, I'm still here.
[04:12] <Guest_45> hello
[04:16] <ball> Hello
[10:37] <Fernando-Basso> I have set my terminal to use Inconsolata SemiExpanded Medium font. I have a PS1 prompt that uses  (echo -e '\ue712') which seems to be provided by Hack Nerd Font. That char displays like an “N”.
[10:37] <Fernando-Basso> Seems like Xubuntu is not using an alternative font for code points it doesn't find in the current font.
[10:37] <Fernando-Basso> If I change the terminal to use Hack Nerd Font, then that char displays just fine.
[10:40] <Fernando-Basso> https://i.imgur.com/wl0xjGZ.png
[10:40] <Fernando-Basso> I installed the nerd fonts to ~/.local/share fonts and run fc-cache -fv (without sudo).
[10:42] <brainwash> Fernando-Basso: I would check if it works with gnome-terminal
[10:47] <Fernando-Basso> I will. In my other machine with Arch Linux, a very similar setup works without problem.
[10:48] <Fernando-Basso> Is it right that when a font doesn't have a certain code point, the “system” should find another font for that char?
[10:48] <Fernando-Basso> And gnome terminal has problems even listing nerd fonts.
[10:49] <brainwash> I'm not quite sure how it works
[10:49] <brainwash> there is https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/font_configuration
[10:51] <Fernando-Basso> Yeah, but in arch I didn't do any config. (neither in Xubuntu so far).
[10:52] <Fernando-Basso> Yep, same thing with gnome-terminal.
[10:52] <Fernando-Basso> Hmm. If I set ubuntu mono, then it displays that char.
[10:54] <brainwash> debugging this could be tricky I think
[10:54] <brainwash> at least I have no idea how it could be done
[10:55] <Fernando-Basso> Indeed. And I know nothing about this subject. Perhaps arch has newer packages related to fonts that handle this better.
[10:55] <brainwash> that is usually the case
[10:55] <brainwash> unless you run the latest Xubuntu dev build
[11:00] <Fernando-Basso> Gosh, it happens with the “medium” variant of that inconsolata semiexpanded. If I pick “semibold” then it works.
[11:00] <Fernando-Basso> And I actually now remember that I use the semibold variant in Arch, not medium.
[11:05] <brainwash> aha!
[11:20] <Fernando-Basso> This font weight thing across fonts might be tricking the font system and bugging it.
[15:24] <xu-irc79w> gimp xsane plugin xuuntu 18.04 ,  xsane installed and working need to integrate with gimp ? any ideas