[12:27] <rasputnik> Deanodriver: back up the file first then :) and run 'apt-get update' to start using the new list
[12:28] <Deanodriver> i've just gotta work out which URL's are for which :P
[12:28] <xvlun> evader, maybe you should provide some relevant information by killing beagle and start it with beagled --fg --debug --allow-backend Files
[12:29] <ukato> hello everyone
[12:29] <evader> xvlun, where can I flood the output too.
[12:30] <evader> xvlun, could you join #flood? and anyone else that wants to have  a quick look at a beagle problem.
[12:30] <xvlun> just use a nopaste system
[12:30] <Deanodriver> meh, it's probably only a few hundred MB, and it's more up to date...
[12:30] <Brydenn[WU] > for some reason i cant see my Windows HD. all i see is the 8gig partition i made for Kubuntu
[12:31] <Brydenn[WU] > anyone know how to mount my windows HD?
[12:31] <Deanodriver> mount -t filesystem /dev/hda1(for example) /mountpoint
[12:32] <duper> Bydenn: mount /dev/hdaX /media/windows -t ntfs -o umask=0222
[12:32] <ukato> what's the umask do
[12:32] <Deanodriver> that one's better :P
[12:32] <evader> xvlun, http://rafb.net/paste/results/TpwZ8S14.html
[12:33] <evader> Anyone that might help with a beagle error please ^ that's --fg --debug output
[12:33] <ukato> has anyone by chance used stratagus before
[12:33] <MorphDK> ARGH.. My gnome-background-properties is broken.. Might be because I deleted some wallpapers after adding them to the list.. What can I do?
[12:33] <evader> WARN: Could not open /dev/inotify
[12:33] <evader> DEBUG: Starting FileSystemWatcher Backend
[12:33] <evader> ERROR: Caught exception while instantiating Files backend
[12:33] <evader> ERROR: System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation. ---> System.DllNotFoundException: sqlite
[12:34] <evader> That's basically what it all comes down to.
[12:34] <KBJ> anybody here comfortable in monodevelop?
[12:34] <duper> ukato: i think its been used to change the permission of target folder
[12:35] <ukato> duper, i see
[12:35] <ukato> oh yeah. that makes sense.
[12:35] <evader> I *didnt* set up inotify explicitly - so i expected to see that - but what's with the sqllite bit? doesnt it use extended HDD attributes? Im on ext3 and added that xattr thing...
[12:35] <nobis> ahmm hi... can someone teach me how to use linux? im totally new to this OS.. nid help.. linux101
[12:35] <xvlun> evader, pls type the correct command: /usr/lib/beagle/BeagleDaemon.exe --replace --fg --debug --a llow-backend Files
[12:36] <xvlun> without a space between a nd l
[12:36] <MorphDK> nobis, what do you want to learn?
[12:36] <ukato> nobis, that is very vague
[12:36] <ukato> =P
[12:36] <MorphDK> :P
[12:36] <MorphDK> The force is strong with this one :<
[12:36] <ukato> bwahaha
[12:37] <nobis> waaa...
[12:37] <evader> bash: /usr/lib/beagle/BeagleDaemon.exe: Permission denied
[12:37] <nobis> i want to know the basics
[12:37] <nobis> :)
[12:37] <evader> i normally just type beagled as normal user.
[12:38] <KB2000> anybody here comfortable with monodevelop?
[12:38] <KB2000> i want to add a dll to a monodevelop project
[12:41] <evader> http://rafb.net/paste/results/NBjXrV15.html
[12:41] <evader> Please someone ^ That's my beagled error.
[12:41] <evader> With output.
[12:42] <evader> I didn't set up inotify, but i added that extended attribute stuff to fstab
[12:42] <evader> I didn't manually touch the kernel
[12:43] <nikkia> evader: you need to install sqlite
[12:43] <jago25_98> How do I control startup services from the commandline? (rc-update - command not found)
[12:43] <nikkia> the first error ('System.DllNotFoundException: sqlite') is the clue :)
[12:44] <evader> nikkia, what packages - just 'sqlite' ? I followed the Ubuntu hoary beagle guide at the beagle page
[12:44] <bassMonkey> hi, how much memory should ubuntu use by default? top says this with only tomboy and gaim running: Mem:    516344k total,   440240k used,    76104k free,     8564k buffers
[12:44] <nikkia> evader, yeah, i think its just sqlite
[12:45] <evader> ill try.
[12:45] <bassMonkey> while system monitor says: User memory: 132.4 MB of 504.2 MB 26.3%
[12:45] <bassMonkey> why the huge difference?
[12:45] <tapia> hi
[12:46] <tapia> I have a problem with the mimetypes
[12:46] <tapia> when I try to open a PDF with evince, I get this error:
[12:46] <tapia> MIME type not supported: 'application/x-extension-pdf'
[12:47] <amnesia> hi
[12:47] <twb_> anyone know how to install Limewire on here?
[12:47] <ukato> how often do you all shut off your computer
[12:47] <ukato> twb_, isn't there a package for it
[12:47] <amnesia> which network-manager works for anyone, the breey one or the on in thom's repo
[12:47] <bassMonkey> twb_: Isn't that in ubuntuguide?
[12:47] <tigliona1bit> twb_: it's in ubuntuguide
[12:48] <twb_> hmmmm i never checked
[12:48] <amnesia> breey/breezy
[12:48] <twb_> whats the command for deleting files?
[12:48] <ukato> "rm"
[12:49] <twb_> rn 'filename'?
[12:49] <bassMonkey> could someone check how much ram thei're using please? in top and in "system monitor"... please?
[12:49] <bassMonkey> rm
[12:49] <twb_> rm 'filename'
[12:50] <bassMonkey> yes...
[12:50] <twb_> thx
[12:50] <bassMonkey> twb_: please help me in return?
[12:50] <bassMonkey> twb_: i'm not asking for very much
[12:50] <CaWIss> bassMonkey, 150
[12:51] <sly> im using 249 ( converting video )
[12:51] <bassMonkey> is that what top shows or what system monitor shows?
[12:51] <sly> thats what my desklets show
[12:51] <hunger> I can not log into gnome on my fresh breezy install.
[12:51] <CaWIss> user memory
[12:51] <twb_> bassmonkey: sure
[12:52] <bassMonkey> hmm...
[12:52] <CaWIss> bassMonkey, user memory in system monitor :P
[12:52] <Sugoi-Baka> hello
[12:53] <Sugoi-Baka> I have a problem on boot... I get some Kernel Panic about VFS and mounting of root=
[12:53] <Sugoi-Baka> (a common problem?)
[12:53] <twb_> is eMule used to dl music?
[12:53] <Sugoi-Baka> i've looked up in google a lot, but can't find it
[12:54] <jago25_98> twb_: all sorts on that
[12:54] <twb_> is it good?
[12:55] <Sugoi-Baka> I have not changed anything in the kernel or boot or anything... did a reboot and got that error ;/
[12:57] <Prottie> Sugoi-Baka: what did the error say?
[12:57] <Prottie> exactly.
[12:57] <xabbu> Can someone please help me? My soundcard isn't working. When trying to play any media the mediaplayer hangs.  How do I configure it? It worked acouple of days ago. Might be because of the kernel upgrade.
[12:57] <nikkia> xabbu, that sounds like a sharing issue
[12:57] <Sugoi-Baka> VFS: Cannot open device "hde4" or unknown-block(0,0)
[12:57] <Sugoi-Baka> Please append correct "root=" boot option
[12:57] <Sugoi-Baka> Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[12:57] <Sugoi-Baka> blah that's not mine
[12:57] <nikkia> xabbu: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly read that
[12:58] <Sugoi-Baka> change hde4 to hda2 and (0,0) to (0,1)
[12:59] <xabbu> nikkia, I did that some time ago.
[01:01] <twb_> why is gtk-gnutella so damn slow
[01:01] <Sugoi-Baka> I think we solved it... kinda
[01:03] <[L|eWiOn] > I hope anyone has time for me now
[01:04] <[L|eWiOn] > Suppose i'm still wrong what a help :(
[01:04] <Sugoi-Baka> [L|eWiOn] , it would be good if you asked what you wanted instead of asking if anyone can help
[01:04] <Sugoi-Baka> people hate it
[01:05] <[L|eWiOn] > i already did
[01:05] <[L|eWiOn] > like an hour ago
[01:05] <Sugoi-Baka> ah
[01:05] <[L|eWiOn] > 20 times
[01:05] <ukato> heh
[01:05] <Sugoi-Baka> what did u ask?
[01:05] <[L|eWiOn] > i have a problem with printing on the network
[01:05] <[L|eWiOn] > on my laptop
[01:05] <Sugoi-Baka> in ubuntu?
[01:05] <[L|eWiOn] > it prints an error page PCL XL Error
[01:05] <[L|eWiOn] > yes
[01:06] <Sugoi-Baka> the network printer is on *nix or win?
[01:06] <[L|eWiOn] > not on a computer
[01:06] <[L|eWiOn] > usin jetdirect
[01:06] <grexk> is there any howto repackage ubuntu?
[01:06] <Sugoi-Baka> [L|eWiOn]  did u try this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=124137#post124137
[01:06] <[L|eWiOn] > it's an hp 1200
[01:07] <twb_> jesus, why is installing Limewire nest to impossible?
[01:07] <[L|eWiOn] > it's not on a computer
[01:07] <Sugoi-Baka> ok
[01:07] <[L|eWiOn] > it's on jetdirect some thing from hp that normally is supported by ubuntu
[01:08] <twb_> is sudo like an admin hing?
[01:08] <bassMonkey> ok, I tried running ubuntu from a livecd on another pc and it still uses nearly 300MB of ram by default after boot according to "top", how is that possible?
[01:08] <Sugoi-Baka> I know nothing about printers sorry... I'm just pretty good in fetching answers from the net
[01:08] <sly> twb , it isnt hard at all =\
[01:08] <Sugoi-Baka> twb_, it lets you run commands as root, when u are a normal user
[01:08] <twb_> then why cant i do it....: /
[01:09] <twb_> oh ok
[01:09] <[L|eWiOn] > anyway
[01:09] <Sugoi-Baka> bassMonkey, it uses the ram as its hard drive
[01:09] <[L|eWiOn] > i have a serieus question
[01:09] <twb_> sly: u have liewire?
[01:09] <Sugoi-Baka> since it doesn't want to install anything on your disk
[01:09] <ukato> twb_, i do
[01:09] <bassMonkey> well my desktop install uses even more ram with only a few apps running...
[01:09] <twb_> sly: whered u get it
[01:10] <sly> apt-get
[01:10] <[L|eWiOn] > Can you recommend me to install linux on all my computers so that i have no problems with al windows app
[01:10] <[L|eWiOn] > ?.
[01:10] <twb_> sly: i tried out of the guide but the link isnt theere anymore
[01:10] <Sugoi-Baka> bassMonkey, linux tries to use up the most memory possible in order to get the computer to run faster
[01:10] <xabbu> How do I configure VLC to work with ALSA?
[01:10] <sly> find the respo sumwhere , and add it just once, ill see if i still got a link sumwhere, was rather intresting
[01:10] <Sugoi-Baka> it caches the hard drive in the memory
[01:11] <ukato> twb_, i just got mine from the limewire site
[01:11] <Sugoi-Baka> xabbu, I know you want to use VLC, but for video I really recommend mplayer and for audio I recommend xmms
[01:11] <xunil_> yay for me installed ubuntu!
[01:11] <twb_> ukato: howd you install it
[01:11] <twb_> ukato: mnes giving me trouble
[01:12] <ukato> msg twb_ hello
[01:12] <ukato> whoops.
[01:12] <sly> twb_ whats wrong with gtk-gnutella
[01:12] <twb_> sly: sudo apt-get limewire?
[01:12] <twb_> sly: its soooooo slow
[01:12] <Sugoi-Baka> apt-get install
[01:12] <Sugoi-Baka> on linux, try using MLDonkey
[01:12] <sly> .................. but it connects to the same network
[01:12] <Sugoi-Baka> it has some complex configs, but to me it seems the best client
[01:12] <sly> you exspect ............ limewire to be differant ?
[01:13] <Sugoi-Baka> it has all those networks... edonkey, overnet, bt, gnutella, gnutella2 and more
[01:13] <sly> sure it isnt a portforwarding issue ?
[01:13] <twb_> different programs are better than others
[01:13] <ukato> bittorrent is very cool
[01:13] <Sugoi-Baka> and u can run the "server" and "client" remotely
[01:13] <xabbu> Sugoi-Baka, hm how do I start mplayer then?(I use blackbox.
[01:14] <Sugoi-Baka> i.e, run the mldonkey server on your pc at home, then connect to it from the network from school or whatever
[01:14] <Sugoi-Baka> xabbu, mplayer filename
[01:14] <sly> twb_ u aint listning propaly are you ???
[01:14] <xabbu> oh.
[01:14] <Sugoi-Baka> it's very minimalistic
[01:14] <Sugoi-Baka> it doesn't have a real "gui", but I really like
[01:14] <twb_> sly: guess not
[01:14] <Sugoi-Baka> left right up down to seek in the file, f for fullscreen, space for pause
[01:15] <xabbu> Sugoi-Baka, Okey Ill give it a try.
[01:15] <Sugoi-Baka> (pgup/pgdn to seek even further)
[01:15] <Sugoi-Baka> others recommend xine
[01:15] <xabbu> Just hope it accually starts playing the movie soon thou
[01:15] <sly> gtk-gnutell/limewire connect to the same networks .................... i cant see you getting differant speeds for the same file off the network... so hence i said sounds like a port/portfowarding issue
[01:16] <twb_> rgr that
[01:18] <sly> are all your ports on your router/firewall setup correctly for the ports you told the program to use
[01:19] <Technostalgia> Hi everyone! Can anyone help me with getting my mouse to work through a KVM in Hoary?
[01:20] <ukato> twb_ seems angry
[01:21] <sly> if all he wants to use is limewaire, maybe should stick to windows =\
[01:21] <Technostalgia> hehe
[01:22] <xabbu> Sugoi-Baka, How come nothing happens after typing mplayer <filename>?
[01:22] <xunil_> how do i write to change the admin psw?
[01:22] <xunil_> (root)
[01:22] <xabbu> The last line is "alsa-init: 1 soundcardfound, using: default" After that nothing happens.
[01:23] <jino> xunil
[01:23] <HiddenWolf> xunil_ why would you want to change it.
[01:23] <jino> did u forget it?
[01:23] <xunil_> beacuase its not working in some places
[01:24] <xunil_> like if i install a program it dont work
[01:24] <bimberi> Technostalgia: What kind of mouse (PS2, serial,...)?
[01:24] <jino> xunil, if know the present one  , go to rool terminal and type passwd
[01:24] <charly> hai friends
[01:24] <xunil_> but if i run the root terminal it works
[01:24] <Technostalgia> it's an M$ one with USB->PS/2 converter
[01:25] <xunil_> now it works
[01:25] <bimberi> Technostalgia: So it's a USB KVM?
[01:25] <Poromies> hmm, what do i need to apt-get to add mp3 support to  KDE?
[01:25] <Technostalgia> no, it's a PS/2 one but the USB mouse is going through the supplied PS/2 converter
[01:27] <Technostalgia> works fine on WinXP and I'm sure it's worked on Mandrake 10.0 through the KVM
[01:27] <charly> i want know how mplayer is installed in system
[01:27] <xabbu> Gah, Isn't there a singel mediaplayer that works with ALSA?
[01:27] <bimberi> Yes it might be that the mouse entry in /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't point to the right device
[01:28] <Technostalgia> bimberi - let me have a look
[01:28] <xabbu> charly, sudo apt-get install mplayer. Then mplayer <filename> to  play media
[01:28] <bimberi> Does lsusb output anything meaningful?
[01:28] <xabbu> lsusb
[01:29] <grexk> lsusb?
[01:29] <jino> charly, hi
[01:29] <grexk> is it listing usb devices?
[01:29] <bimberi> Sorry - that was addressed to Technostalgia
[01:30] <Technostalgia> lsusb shows 3 devices - Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 and the same for Bus 002 and Bus 001
[01:31] <Technostalgia> I don't have any USB devices connected at the moment though
[01:31] <bimberi> Technostalgia: Hmm - mine includes an entry like this ...
[01:31] <nikkia> Technostalgia: they'll be your system hubs
[01:31] <bimberi> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:c016 Logitech, Inc. Optical Mouse
[01:32] <Technostalgia> is your mouse plugged into a USB port? cos mine's plugged into the PS/2 port
[01:32] <nikkia> mine shows 9 devices, of which 5 are hubs :)
[01:32] <Technostalgia> hehe
[01:33] <bimberi> Technostalgia: Sorry - I misunderstood - thought you had PS/2 out of the KVM into a converter then into USB into the PC
[01:33] <nikkia> the other 4 are my ipod, a PS2 joypad, bluetooth, and my keyboard/mouse receiver
[01:33] <Technostalgia> sorry bimberi, probably my fault
[01:34] <Technostalgia> so to all intents and purposes it's a PS/2 mouse and that's what my WinXP box sees it as
[01:35] <bimberi> Technostalgia: OK.  Check /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if the mouse entry has /dev/psaux as the device
[01:36] <Technostalgia> yes, it has
[01:37] <bimberi> Hmm.
[01:37] <Technostalgia> I tried this and it didn't help: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28643.html
[01:38] <hunger> Can I reinstall all the debs I have?
[01:40] <Technostalgia> strangely the mouse works fine through a VNC session from my WinXP box
[01:40] <sly> i like your name i can i please pinch it =D
[01:40] <charly> bye friends i going
[01:40] <BockBilbo> anyone here knows if the ipw2200 card works with wep in ubuntu hoary?
[01:41] <BockBilbo> it used to work for me with warty, but it doesnt with hoary
[01:41] <BockBilbo> :S
[01:41] <BockBilbo> quite wierd
[01:41] <bimberi> Technostalgia: Yes I suppose it would.  Sorry, I don't have any further thoughts ATM.
[01:41] <nikkia> bob2___: if its like mine, yes, if you use WEP128, no if you use WEP64, unfortunately, my other cards only support WEP64 so the ipw goes on the shelf
[01:41] <nikkia> erm, BockBilbo rather
[01:41] <xabbu> Doesn't anyone know how to configure vlc to usd alsa?
[01:42] <Technostalgia> bimberi - no problem, thanks for trying anyway :)
[01:42] <BockBilbo> what nikkia ?
[01:42] <nikkia> xabbu: you have to select 'advanced options' in preferences, then the device list appears in 'Audio'
[01:42] <BockBilbo> oh
[01:42] <BockBilbo> nikkia, i use wep128 with a passphrase
[01:42] <nikkia> bock, then it should work
[01:43] <nikkia> bock, you do have the firmware installed, right?
[01:43] <toby1007> hi @ all
[01:44] <BockBilbo> well, it doesnt :(
[01:44] <BockBilbo> ive updated the driver
[01:44] <BockBilbo> to the latest one, and also the firmware
[01:44] <BockBilbo> i can get to configure the network
[01:44] <BockBilbo> but when trying to get the ip address via dhcp, it just cant get it
[01:44] <BockBilbo> nikkia, yes
[01:44] <BockBilbo> ive gotten it from the ipw2200.sf.net site
[01:45] <BockBilbo> and copy them to /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware
[01:45] <nikkia> hmmm
[01:45] <BockBilbo> the card works fine, i can connect to no wep aps
[01:45] <Mez> Hmm
[01:45] <xunil_> how do i remove the E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:45] <xunil_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it
[01:45] <xunil_> lock?
[01:45] <Mez> I'm getting weird eporblwes with hotplug
[01:45] <BockBilbo> but not to the wep ap
[01:45] <Mez> It freezes if I have my USDB hard disk drive in
[01:45] <Mez> but it's never done so before.
[01:45] <nalioth> xunil_: you either are not "sudo" or you have another instance of apt running
[01:46] <xunil_> just i now it crashed..
[01:46] <nikkia> or aptitude, or synaptic, or ... :)
[01:46] <xunil_> know
[01:46] <BockBilbo> nikkia, what did u do for making it work? just worked when you installed hoary?
[01:46] <nikkia> bock, as i said, i don't have it working
[01:46] <nikkia> it doesn't support WEP64, and my other cards don't support WEP128
[01:47] <nikkia> (it doesn't support WEP64 in windows either, so its not a firmware/linux-driver issue)
[01:47] <Technostalgia> looks like my KVM issue is a kernel issue fixed in 2.6.11 so I guess i've got to work out how to upgrade my kernel ;)
[01:47] <sly> ouch =\
[01:47] <xunil_> i found it out
[01:47] <xunil_> killed it in ps aux
[01:47] <zyth> Technostalgia, 2.6.11 is in synaptic
[01:48] <xunil_> any one know how to mount there windows dirv?
[01:48] <xunil_> .
[01:48] <Technostalgia> oh cool, thanks zyth
[01:48] <zyth> Technostalgia, np
[01:49] <sly> Tecno where ya from ?
[01:49] <Technostalgia> I'm from the UK, you
[01:49] <Technostalgia> ?
[01:49] <sly> i was formaly asking which part as i notcied uk isp :)
[01:49] <Technostalgia> oh hehe, Midlands
[01:50] <sly> <- sheffield :)
[01:50] <Technostalgia> ;)
[01:51] <xabbu> nikkia, hm, that doesn't work.
[01:51] <Technostalgia> gotta go, cheers everyone! :)
[01:52] <xunil_> get to say i love apt-get
[01:56] <BockBilbo> ok nikkia
[01:56] <BockBilbo> thanks though
[01:56] <BockBilbo> :)
[02:00] <DrSchlauf> hello! just one question. :) i've installed ubuntu hoary in expert mode. everything works fine. but there's a problem in gnome. when i try to start a program which needs root privelegs, my password seems to be wrong. i have a root account with password. starting these programs as root in a terminal is no problem. which user do i have to edit to run systemtools in gnome? (i'm sorry about my bad english!)
[02:01] <rob^> DrSchlauf, you need to use your users password
[02:01] <rob^> it will still use sudo even though you have enabled the root account
[02:02] <DrSchlauf> rob^: oh! i'll try that, thanks a lot! is there a way to change the needed user to root?
[02:03] <rob^> I'd say so, but it would be a pain in the butt
[02:04] <rob^> maybe edit each programs menu entries?
[02:05] <DrSchlauf> phew... i'll take my normal user account :) thanks again!
[02:05] <rob^> np
[02:07] <rob^> quiet in here tonight..
[02:08] <_0kills> morning all!
[02:08] <rob^> .
[02:11] <_0kills> anyone here ever installed enemy territory?
[02:12] <mindmedic> _0kills: yes
[02:12] <Oby_Wan> hei man
[02:12] <Oby_Wan> how can I put
[02:12] <Oby_Wan> the
[02:12] <Oby_Wan> url bar
[02:12] <Oby_Wan> in nautilus?
[02:12] <_0kills> mindmedic, im having problems... i went to download it off enemy-territory.com, and when i clicked the download link it just gave me a huge document
[02:13] <Prottie> Oby_Wan: your enterkey is stucked?
[02:13] <mindmedic> use the save as... funktion
[02:13] <_0kills> k
[02:13] <Oby_Wan> oh, no sorry, it's a stupid habit of mine
[02:13] <Oby_Wan> :\
[02:13] <mindmedic> or use: wget <location>
[02:14] <Oby_Wan> but does anyone know how to do that?
[02:14] <DrSchlauf> rob^: my user is not allowed to run sudo.... could you tell me how to change this?
[02:15] <_0kills> mindmedic, i clicked save as, but it saves it as .html..
[02:15] <Prottie> Oby_Wan: however. I have not found that myself.
[02:15] <Oby_Wan> you havent found what?
[02:15] <mindmedic> Oby_Wan: go into nautilus options, in one of the tab is the option "use browser windows"
[02:15] <mindmedic> _0kills: then use try another mirror...
[02:16] <Prottie> mindmedic: there is?
[02:16] <mindmedic> pick a gentoo server near to you, they have enemy territory in the distfiles
[02:16] <Oby_Wan> mindmedic, where are nautilus options? editt->preferences ?
[02:16] <Oby_Wan> is that it?
[02:16] <_0kills> k
[02:16] <mindmedic> yes
[02:16] <Prottie> mindmedic: I have never found this.
[02:16] <Oby_Wan> but in wich tab
[02:16] <Oby_Wan> is that?
[02:16] <Prottie> *looking again*
[02:17] <^johns^> behavior i would guess
[02:17] <mindmedic> hold on a second
[02:17] <mindmedic> think i made a mistake ^_^
[02:17] <Oby_Wan> hum
[02:18] <mindmedic> second tab
[02:18] <mindmedic> :) "immer im browser fenster ffnen" in german
[02:18] <erb> hello
[02:18] <mindmedic> Oby_Wan: found it?
[02:19] <Oby_Wan> but mindmedic in 2nd tab I only have behavious,executable text files,garbage
[02:19] <Prottie> it is named "Do not open a new window for each folder"
[02:19] <Oby_Wan> and in any of those
[02:19] <Prottie> very bad naming if you ask me!
[02:19] <Oby_Wan> there's noithing concerning urls
[02:19] <mindmedic> yeah sorry the translations vary a lot.. thanks Prottie
[02:20] <mindmedic> well the browser window has an urlbar
[02:20] <Prottie> yes
[02:20] <Oby_Wan> i haven't got that
[02:20] <Oby_Wan> in this tab
[02:20] <Oby_Wan> :\
[02:20] <Prottie> but saying it not to open a new window for each folder you enter does not describe very well what function it has.
[02:21] <Oby_Wan> nautilus should bring the url bar activated by default
[02:21] <Oby_Wan> :\
[02:21] <Prottie> Oby_Wan: you not?
[02:21] <Prottie> Oby_Wan: agreed.
[02:21] <mindmedic> why, it has the drop down menu in the lower left
[02:21] <Oby_Wan> oh
[02:21] <mindmedic> its pretty fast to navigate using it
[02:21] <Oby_Wan> now it's working
[02:21] <Oby_Wan> :)
[02:21] <Oby_Wan> thx
[02:21] <Oby_Wan> :D
[02:22] <Oby_Wan> ye
[02:22] <Oby_Wan> but if you want to connect
[02:22] <Oby_Wan> to a server
[02:22] <Oby_Wan> it's not too functional to use the file menu
[02:22] <Prottie> mindmedic: yeah but "view as image collection" etc are closer in the old nautilusbehaivior
[02:22] <Oby_Wan> cause you can't say what went wrong if nothing happens
[02:24] <Mez> nayone reccomend a good sound editing program (audacity bombs out for me - and segfaults when trying to run with artsdsp)
[02:24] <mindmedic> Prottie: i like the new behaviour a lot... at first it was strange navigating this way, but now i'm a lot faster with it... if i need to quickly entar a specific path i uses Ctrl + L
[02:25] <balor> How do I import a gpg key so that apt dosn;t give me a gpg error?
[02:25] <balor> ah.. apt-key add
[02:26] <Oby_Wan> well
[02:26] <Oby_Wan> thans a lot for helping, see you around
[02:29] <sam_> stupid question: Where can I find out the IP of my PC in ubuntu?
[02:29] <liable> sam_: sudo ifconfig
[02:29] <mindmedic> Mez: audacity is very good.. if it has problems with artsd then kill artsd..
[02:30] <Mez> mindmedic, I dont want to kill artsd... I still need it.
[02:30] <Mez> and killing artsd dowsnt cause a problem
[02:30] <Mez> causes problems *
[02:31] <ep> I've been using apt-get to install packages. How do uninstall?
[02:31] <loftus> dpkg --remove or dpkg --purge
[02:31] <yuacht> hello, could anyone help me set my proftpd so that people who has an account on my computer can access their homedirs and have full writeaccess there?
[02:31] <sam_> Thanks, but what does if stand for?
[02:31] <mindmedic> well, audacity works very stable for me..
[02:31] <mindmedic> you might try gnomefiles.org or sourceforge.net for a good alternative
[02:32] <Mez> ep - apt-get remove package
[02:32] <Mez> mindmedic, I'm using KDE
[02:32] <ep> thanks
[02:32] <liable> sam_: interface
[02:33] <mindmedic> since you have arts i figured that :D
[02:33] <mindmedic> i dont know about kde programs
[02:33] <Technostalgia> Hi (again)... can anyone tell me how to upgrade my kernel to 2.6.11? I don't know which Synaptic package I need.
[02:35] <mindmedic> Technostalgia: 2.6.11 is not the ubuntu default kernel
[02:35] <yuacht> Technostalgia, 2.6.11 isn't availible in ubuntu repos
[02:36] <Technostalgia> hmm ok - someone said it was in Synaptic, and I think I need it to fix a KVM problem
[02:36] <yuacht> Technostalgia, you have to compile it yourself
[02:37] <Technostalgia> yikes ;)
[02:37] <Technostalgia> what does linux-image-2.6.11-1-686 do?
[02:37] <yuacht> it's the image
[02:38] <yuacht> but i don
[02:38] <yuacht> 't know if it installs
[02:38] <Poromies> it installs new kernel with default setting for you
[02:38] <Technostalgia> heh I'll try it, I'm a n00b and i'll only learn by trying :)
[02:39] <yuacht> ok, i guess u can use the image in the repo
[02:39] <yuacht> but it isn't official so there's no guarantee it'll work
[02:39] <Technostalgia> ok thanks - I'm just playing at the moment and have nothing to lose, I can always just reinstall
[02:39] <Poromies> im 99,9% sure it wont be a problema at all, usualy things start working better when updating (atleast if you have relatively new hardware)
[02:40] <sly> back techno :)
[02:40] <Technostalgia> hi sly
[02:40] <sly> the way you was speaking earlyier indicated you wasnt a noob =\
[02:41] <Technostalgia> hehe... well I am when it comes to the guts of Linux ;)
[02:42] <Poromies> Technostalgia: if you feel like you wanna do more hard-core "adventuring" to the unstable world, get breezy ;)
[02:43] <yuacht> how stable is breezy atm? and how long til the release?
[02:43] <chrissturm> its released 10/05
[02:43] <Poromies> i tried it out, coz my motherboard/chipset needs the 2.6.12 kernel to work properly.. also im running 64bit system, it started nicely with breezy but then i noticed that it didnt have anything i needed to install in the repos :D
[02:44] <Poromies> no multimedia, no graphics, no players, no nothing :P
[02:44] <chrissturm> Poromies, what were you missing?
[02:44] <Poromies> sys-clock wasnt working with 64bit under 2.6.12 kernels
[02:44] <Poromies> it ran twice as fast as normal
[02:44] <Poromies> :D
[02:44] <Poromies> it gave my system all kinda aches everywhere
[02:45] <Poromies> videos and music played at double speed etc..
[02:45] <chrissturm> when did you try?
[02:45] <Poromies> but anyways, i made the decision to come back to breezy when it struc to my mind that i could just install the kernell from breezy repos, not the whole system
[02:45] <chrissturm> so you are saying your motherboard *needs* 2.6.12 but doesnt work with 2.6.12? how does that make sense?
[02:46] <Poromies> no it needs and works with 2.6.12
[02:46] <Poromies> not belov that version, not working below kernel version 2.6.12
[02:47] <Poromies> uchszz.. i need to get some sleep
[02:48] <Poromies> i ment to say i came back to Hoary, and just installed the kernell from breezy :)
[02:48] <chrissturm> Poromies, and that worked well?
[02:50] <Technostalgia> hmm my kernel upgrade to 2.6.11 worked but my mouse still doesn't respond :(
[02:50] <Poromies> chrissturm: yeps
[02:51] <Technostalgia> Poromies: was that difficult to do?
[02:52] <chrissturm> Technostalgia, how do you know its a kernel problem?
[02:52] <Technostalgia> it's in bugzilla as a kernel problem, let me find the link
[02:52] <Poromies> Technostalgia: noopes
[02:52] <rasputnik> does nautilus support webdav over ssl?
[02:52] <gingerdog> I know I shouldn't be using Breezy, but I am, and I get problems with Ice when starting X sessions (Gnome doesn't work, and XFCE is a bit slow to load). Is this a known issue? Or should I just blame myself for using Breezy?
[02:53] <teroedni> teroedni@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo tar xvfz -C /usr/src <affix-kernel-3.2.0.tar.gz>bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline
[02:53] <teroedni> whats wrong?
[02:53] <yuacht> can i just use the kernel from breezy dev?
[02:53] <gingerdog> specifically: ~/.xsession-errors contains : IceTrasnTransNoListen: unable to find transport: tcp
[02:53] <chrissturm> gingerdog: do you have ubuntu-desktop installed?
[02:53] <gingerdog> then it moans that it can't create /dev/X (i'm not root)
[02:53] <Technostalgia> christurm: kernel bugs 779 and 2082 according to http://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/?2005/03/08/110-kvm-and-linux
[02:54] <teroedni> what does syntax error nera unexpecting token mean
[02:54] <gingerdog> yep v0.52
[02:54] <teroedni> ??
[02:54] <teroedni> please
[02:54] <rasputnik> teroedni : It means the command was garbled
[02:54] <teroedni> garbled?
[02:54] <rasputnik> teroedni : i.e. typed wrong
[02:55] <teroedni> ahh
[02:55] <rasputnik> just cd /usr/src and 'sudo tar zxvf /path/to/file'
[02:55] <gingerdog> chrissturm: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/299
[02:56] <teroedni> thanks
[02:56] <sly> god today is reight boring
[02:57] <rasputnik> gingerdog: 'usr/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :0' - is that relevant?
[02:57] <Poromies> Technostalgia: if you want to use breezy repos for something... just "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and then comment out your installation CD and backports if you have those.. and for all the other rep-links put "breezy" instead of "hoary", save it, do "sudo apt-get update" and then run synaptic , browse for the "Base System", check the kernel version you want to install and install it.
[02:57] <gingerdog> rasputnik : I only have one X process running, and I'm using it.
[02:57] <Poromies> gg that took some typing
[02:58] <gingerdog> i don't know if it's relevant
[02:58] <Technostalgia> hehe.. thanks poromies
[02:58] <rasputnik> that's what i meant - so is startxfce4 definitely supposed to be run from .xsession?
[02:58] <Poromies> my brain aint working properly atm
[02:58] <gingerdog> I asked it to run xfce from the gdm login screen
[02:58] <sam_> Why can't i change input mode by pressing ctrl+space after installing "a lot of" SCIM packages.
[02:59] <_root_> what is the syntax for compressing multiple files to a single one
[02:59] <Poromies> Technostalgia: but dont do apt-get upgrade with breezy repos or you will end up with complete (and propably partly broken) breezy system
[02:59] <rasputnik> ah, maybe that's just a red herring then
[02:59] <rasputnik> _root_: man tar
[02:59] <Poromies> just check out those packages you need, and then edit /sources.list back to hoary
[03:00] <gingerdog> perhaps. oh well, I'll just wait for it to get fixed sometime somewhere.
[03:00] <_root_> rasputnik: i dont want to use tar .. only gzip
[03:00] <rasputnik> tar cvf archive.tar <list of files and directories>
[03:00] <rasputnik> _root_: well that's not what gzip does
[03:00] <_root_> rasputnik : but is it possible ?
[03:00] <rasputnik> yes. with tar :)
[03:01] <Technostalgia> Poromies: I'll try that - cheers
[03:01] <gingerdog> _root_ : you could be evil and do cat file1 file2 file3 etc | gzip > something.gz
[03:01] <gingerdog> but teh files will merge together in one long list.
[03:02] <snowseal> how to open a tgz file :S ?
[03:02] <gingerdog> tar -zxf somethign.tgz
[03:03] <snowseal> same as tar.gz. okay.
[03:04] <nbx909|linux> anyone here
[03:04] <nbx909|linux> ?
[03:05] <Technostalgia> nbx909|linux: yes ;)
[03:05] <nbx909|linux> what is the defult root password in ubuntu
[03:05] <peterretief> how do i run a local irc server
[03:05] <snowseal> same as the user password
[03:05] <nbx909|linux> ty
[03:06] <HavoK> hi
[03:06] <rasputnik> nbx909|linux : there isn't one. use sudo
[03:06] <snowseal> :P
[03:06] <rasputnik> wow that told him
[03:06] <Technostalgia> hehe... i think i broke hoary by installing 2.6.11... time for a reinstall ;)
[03:06] <HavoK> there is a sane scanner configuration howto in ubuntu's wiki? I've read some howtos external to ubuntu but none of them was useful
[03:07] <JHK> i've installed bum (boot-up manager), when i start it ("sudo bum") an error appears: Can't locate Encode/Alias.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/lib/perl/5.8/Encode.pm line 46.
[03:07] <JHK> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl/5.8/Encode.pm line 46.
[03:07] <JHK> Compilation failed in require at /usr/bin/bum line 40.
[03:07] <JHK> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/bum line 40.
[03:07] <snowseal> ffs, i need to connect a floppy drive to this sserver to install the sata drivers.
[03:07] <JHK> what should i do?
[03:07] <crimsun> Technostalgia: 2.6.11-1 from universe?
[03:07] <HavoK> I've a canoscan 650U, plustek backend provides support for this scanner..
[03:07] <rasputnik> peterretief :  apt-cache search irc|grep server <- pick one
[03:07] <crimsun> JHK: don't flood here
[03:07] <JHK> sry
[03:07] <b1uet> I'm trying to get Bluetooth working on my HP Compaq nc6120
[03:07] <b1uet> But it doesn't
[03:08] <crimsun> Technostalgia: you need to boot with "noinotify"
[03:08] <b1uet> Bluetooth manager says it can't find an adapter
[03:08] <Poromies> Technostalgia: if it worked with a previous kernel, then just press esc while in grub at reboot and select the previous kernel you used
[03:08] <Technostalgia> what does noinotify do?
[03:08] <petros> hello
[03:09] <petros> do anyone know the shortcut for the word squaremeters?
[03:09] <petros> sqm?
[03:09] <rasputnik> JHK: you don't have Encode:Alias installed for some reason
[03:09] <HavoK> m? =)
[03:09] <rasputnik> go to search.cpan.org and get it
[03:10] <rasputnik> that should be 'Encode::Alias'
[03:10] <JHK> rasputnik, an how do i install it?
[03:10] <JHK> ahuman01, okay
[03:10] <rasputnik> JHK: you untar it and read the readme :)
[03:10] <peterretief> rasputnik, thanks :)
[03:11] <rasputnik> JHK: it looks like whatever package installed Encode.pm is borked so putting it in manually should sort you out
[03:12] <JHK> rasputnik, what command
[03:13] <Technostalgia> Poromies: thanks, the previous kernel works
[03:14] <orlando> hi i have a problem with sound in ubuntu
[03:14] <orlando> i can hear all the ubuntu sounds, but no sounds from applications
[03:15] <wirjo> what apps?
[03:15] <orlando> like flash and media player
[03:15] <skel_> hello
[03:16] <wirjo> hmm
[03:16] <wirjo> weird
[03:16] <wirjo> have u downloaded the codecs
[03:17] <orlando> yes
[03:17] <skel_> i got a question i isntall limeiwre it runs fine.. but it will not go to the system tray
[03:17] <orlando> thats a bug in limewire
[03:17] <skel_> damm
[03:17] <Poromies> orlando, you can usualy spesify the sound-source-device in settings/controll menu of the aplication.. i had the OSS soundsystem on by default in i.e. xmms and changing it to ALSA did the trick
[03:17] <skel_> there a fix?
[03:17] <Technostalgia> Poromies: I think I've done the sources.list thing, which package do I need from "Base System"? linux-image-686?
[03:18] <Leliel_Stormhawk> orlando, if you have onboard sound,a nda  asoundcard, make sure, the driver it talking tot he right device
[03:18] <Poromies> Technostalgia: wait a bit
[03:18] <orlando> nah theres only a sound card
[03:18] <Technostalgia> ok
[03:18] <orlando> i hear all the ubuntu sounds
[03:18] <orlando> like startup
[03:18] <orlando> and button clicking and stuff
[03:19] <Leliel_Stormhawk> severs = servers
[03:19] <ubuntu_hkg> I have just installed ubuntu on my mac ibook g3 and it works great
[03:19] <hunger> What do I need to do after installing kubutu-desktop to get a KDE session in kdm/gdm?
[03:20] <orlando> what do you mean sound servers?
[03:20] <Leliel_Stormhawk> i don;t know how ubuntu does things, since i'm looking at moving to it myself
[03:20] <ubuntu_hkg> I tried to install on my windows laptop but got a message that HAL could not be started.  Any ideas?
[03:20] <Poromies> Technostalgia: yea linux-image<version you want>.i686 is right for the newest kernel on the i686 system
[03:21] <JHK> rasputnik, where is the readme for installing Untar::Aliases?
[03:21] <ubuntu_hkg> I installed the Live CD.  That means I don't have to install anything on my mac.  It runs off the CD and is quite fast.
[03:21] <Technostalgia> AMD Duron is i686, right?
[03:21] <Leliel_Stormhawk> orlando, a soundserver, lies between the application layer and the soundcard, i can't think of an example off the top unfortunately
[03:21] <ubuntu_hkg> what is HAL?
[03:22] <Poromies> yea i think so
[03:22] <Poromies> :)
[03:22] <Leliel_Stormhawk> orlando, a seperate thing from the driver
[03:22] <rasputnik> join #perl
[03:22] <Technostalgia> right I've edited sources.list but now Synaptic throws errors when I load it
[03:22] <orlando> ohh
[03:23] <orlando> there was an option
[03:23] <orlando> in configuring sound
[03:23] <Poromies> Technostalgia: are you surfing the breezy repos?
[03:23] <orlando> 'Enable sound server startup'
[03:23] <Technostalgia> "Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main.Packages"
[03:23] <orlando> it was checked, I guess ill uncheck it then
[03:23] <Leliel_Stormhawk> turn it off orlando, it's grabbing the soundcard, and not letting apps talk direct to the card
[03:23] <kungkang> what is the requirements for running a x-server? is it necessary to have a graphics card even if you only intend to use the x-server through vnc on another machine?
[03:23] <Technostalgia> think I might have messed up the edit ;)
[03:23] <Poromies> yea
[03:24] <orlando> alright I think I gotta restart for it to work
[03:24] <orlando> brb thanks
[03:24] <sly> restart ?
[03:24] <Poromies> well the easy eay is to edit via synaptic -> options
[03:24] <ubuntu_hkg> bye guys this is too technical for me
[03:24] <Poromies> but i find myself using more and more commandline .. seems faster
[03:24] <Technostalgia> could it be something to do with using gb.archive instead of us.archive?
[03:25] <Poromies> yea, it could
[03:25] <Poromies> im using the us ones
[03:25] <Poromies> plus fi ones .. all in one happy mix :)
[03:26] <Leliel_Stormhawk> quick question, what is ubuntu like as a personal desktop, on an amd64 system?
[03:27] <sly> thats like asking a windows user whats windows like as a desktop
[03:27] <sly> its personal choice
[03:27] <Poromies> Leliel_Stormhawk: it makes you do bit more work in the setup than a 32bit system
[03:27] <Leliel_Stormhawk> i shoudl reprase, i'm runnign away from fedora core, after a few stunts redhat pulled in fc4
[03:28] <Technostalgia> Poromies: sorry, I forgot to do apt-get update!
[03:28] <sly> hmm never much liked fedora =\
[03:28] <Poromies> Technostalgia: do it but dont, DONT! do upgrade :D
[03:28] <Leliel_Stormhawk> well, with fc4, redhat has deliberately borked the xmms rpm's on their update servers, to prevent mp3 playback
[03:28] <xxtreme> Leliel_Stormhawk> we dont understand ur question, u tried linux before, right?
[03:28] <mushroom> fedora is so fat~
[03:29] <mushroom> I use beep-media-player
[03:29] <Leliel_Stormhawk> i've been running fedora core for months now, and want to know roughly how painful the shift is likely to be
[03:29] <Poromies> Leliel_Stormhawk: if you already know how to use linux, then installing ubuntu64 is a breeze
[03:29] <kungkang> Leliel_Stormhawk: well mp3 is non-free = impossible to distribute freely by red hat.
[03:29] <Leliel_Stormhawk> true
[03:30] <Leliel_Stormhawk> but, it's still the thin end of the wedge, to so break the player, that you cannot install an mp3 plugin, without first getting the player from some other source
[03:30] <mushroom> yeah~ maybe u r right
[03:30] <Technostalgia> Poromies: seems to be working, just got to wait for it to download (only on 512K broadband) - brb
[03:30] <xxtreme> Leliel_Stormhawk: me coming over from BSD and Redhat, ubuntu is a walk in the park, the best i've seen so far
[03:30] <Leliel_Stormhawk> to be legally sound, all they would have to do, is to not provide the mp3 plugin, xmms has many other uses than mp3's
[03:31] <kungkang> Leliel_Stormhawk: i have a fc4 machine and i installed xmms from fedora-extra and then added the mp3 plugin and it worked fine.
[03:31] <Leliel_Stormhawk> very niice to hear xxtreme
[03:31] <orlando> ok sound works on flash in mozilla now
[03:31] <orlando> still not in totem
[03:31] <Leliel_Stormhawk> refused to play for me
[03:31] <Leliel_Stormhawk> completely refused to play
[03:31] <sly> orlando how you mange that
[03:31] <sly> ?
[03:32] <orlando> turn off sound server
[03:32] <kungkang> Leliel_Stormhawk: strange, i think i used the mp3 plugin from fc3 though.
[03:32] <mushroom> ArchLinux is the fastest,Ubuntu is the easiest ~~~linux
[03:32] <Leliel_Stormhawk> sly, check to see if you have a soundserver running, they usually lock the soundcard, so no apps can directly talk to it
[03:32] <Leliel_Stormhawk> kungkang, you'd have to, in the end i had to use entirely fc3 xmms
[03:33] <xxtreme> Leliel_Stormhawk> come join us
[03:33] <mushroom> you can install the xmms in fc3
[03:33] <Poromies> hehe
[03:33] <sly> sh** thats been anoying me for a couple days now and i suddenly have sound in them little flash servers, that easy =\
[03:33] <Leliel_Stormhawk> i'm talking about fc4
[03:33] <sly> games*
[03:34] <xxtreme> Leliel_Stormhawk> take the plunge to Ubuntu
[03:34] <mushroom> is this the FC channel?
[03:34] <Leliel_Stormhawk> mushroom, the problem as i see it, is that they overracted, all they really had to do, was just not provide an mp3 plugin for anything
[03:34] <qos_> i am trying to install a newer version of the ipw2200 driver for my wlan card. but when i run "sudo make" there is going something wrong:
[03:34] <Seveas> mushroom, lol :)
[03:34] <Leliel_Stormhawk> xmms has many other formats, thus, sufficient non-infirnging use
[03:34] <Seveas> qos_, what is going wrong..?
[03:34] <xxtreme> qos= whts the error
[03:34] <mushroom> :)
[03:34] <mushroom> what's the matter~?
[03:34] <Poromies> sly, after solving a problem that usualy the feeling "all that time... and all it took in the end was that! gg" :D
[03:35] <qos_> where should i paste the error?
[03:35] <mushroom> LOL~~~
[03:35] <sly> well . one more tick at the side of Ubuntu +'
[03:35] <sly> +'s *
[03:35] <Seveas> qos_, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:35] <qos_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/is0Qca97.html
[03:36] <mushroom> what's that url?
[03:36] <Poromies> i had that feeling last night, when i solved my systemclock problem with updating to a new kernel and issuing a "no_timer_check" boot-param in grub.conf :)
[03:36] <mushroom> use apt-get install ?
[03:36] <Seveas> qos_, you need to: sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:37] <goldfish> any korn shell experts here?
[03:37] <mushroom> I am newbie~
[03:37] <qos_> i installed the linux headers already...
[03:37] <Leliel_Stormhawk> perhaps an error in gcc?
[03:37] <Seveas> qos_, then you just need build-essential :)
[03:37] <Leliel_Stormhawk> might want a different compiler version?
[03:38] <qos_> okay, i try :)
[03:39] <mushroom> good luck~ :)
[03:39] <Technostalgia> Poromies: thanks, the kernel upgrade worked :)
[03:39] <Technostalgia> still hasn't solved my mouse problem but i'll come back to it later, i should go and do some real work ;)
[03:40] <Seveas> Technostalgia, mouse problem..?
[03:40] <Technostalgia> my mouse doesn't work on my ubuntu box through my kvm
[03:40] <Leliel_Stormhawk> anyone know if the ipod mini will mount on a fresh ubuntu install?
[03:40] <Seveas> ah, kvm :}
[03:40] <Technostalgia> Seveas: yeah, hehe... any ideas?
[03:41] <Seveas> Technostalgia, serial or ps2?
[03:41] <Technostalgia> ps2 (via usb-ps converter)
[03:41] <Seveas> ENOIDEA then
[03:41] <b1uet> I'm having a problem with my Bluetooth adapter
[03:42] <b1uet> Bluetooth manager can't find it
[03:42] <xxtreme> Leliel_Stormhawk> mine works
[03:42] <Leliel_Stormhawk> mini or full size?
[03:43] <Technostalgia> ok, gtg, bye!
[03:43] <b1uet> Can someone help me please?
[03:43] <xxtreme> Leliel_Stormhawk> full
[03:43] <Technostalgia> (thanks everyone!)
[03:43] <Poromies> Technostalgia: remember to edit back to hoary repos
[03:43] <Poromies> chit, too late :D
[03:44] <mushroom>
[03:44] <mushroom> ...
[03:44] <b1uet> Hello!
[03:44] <mushroom> hi~what's up?
[03:44] <b1uet> My Bluetooth adapter doesn't work
[03:44] <sly> $!$!$!$!$! ........ =D
[03:44] <b1uet> Bluetooth manager can't find it
[03:45] <Leliel_Stormhawk> xxtreme, what generation? the mini sometimes produces a blocksize error
[03:45] <b1uet> !!!!!!!
[03:45] <ubotu> I don't know, b1uet
[03:45] <Leliel_Stormhawk> xxtreme, and the latest 20gb's do the same
[03:46] <xxtreme> Leliel_Stormhawk> you need to install gtkpod from Universe
[03:46] <b1uet> !bluetooth
[03:46] <ubotu> b1uet: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:46] <Leliel_Stormhawk> xxtreme, that;s not what i was asking
[03:46] <b1uet> bluetooth is not
[03:46] <mushroom> usb+bluetooth?
[03:46] <b1uet> Probably
[03:46] <Leliel_Stormhawk> if certain options are compiled into the kernel, it just plain can;t mount a mini
[03:46] <b1uet> It's on my laptop
[03:46] <mushroom> probably
[03:46] <mushroom> ???
[03:46] <Leliel_Stormhawk> no matter what software you run
[03:47] <b1uet> An HP nc6120
[03:47] <xxtreme> Leliel_Stormhawk= my full size works good, and a friend has a mini and his works ok, if you run into problems, we can help
[03:48] <b1uet> Any idea, mushroom?
[03:48] <mushroom> oh~I have no idea
[03:48] <lightboy> hey all
[03:49] <mushroom> It's works in my Ubuntu
[03:49] <lightboy> n e one know of a good app that lets u watch input from a ViVo video card
[03:49] <b1uet> mushroom, what did you do to get it to work?
[03:49] <parham> hi
[03:49] <b1uet> hi
[03:49] <parham> i need some help with Ubuntu
[03:50] <parham> anyone to help?
[03:50] <mushroom> just ~~~use bluetooth manager
[03:50] <lightboy> hey
[03:50] <gfxstyler> hi
[03:50] <Amaranth> parham: You need to ask a question first.
[03:50] <b1uet> mushroom, as I told you, that didn't work
[03:50] <parham> i need to talk in private
[03:50] <mushroom> ....so I have no idea~
[03:50] <mushroom> :(
[03:51] <Amaranth> parham: You need to know something that other people don't?
[03:51] <b1uet> Hmm...
[03:51] <lightboy> so does n e one know a good app to watch input from vivo?
[03:51] <mushroom> :(
[03:51] <gfxstyler> can someone tell me how can i set the system language to another language? (ive set the kde language to german, used base-config and dpkg-reconfigure locales but still all apps exept the kde apps are english)?
[03:51] <parham> Amaranth: what are you talking about!!!
[03:51] <b1uet> parham, maybe commercial support is what you are looking for?
[03:51] <parham> no
[03:51] <kungkang> parham: the chance of finding someone that can help you is greater if you post the question in public.
[03:52] <parham> it is about file-sharing, uninstalling programs, removing items and ... under Ubuntu
[03:52] <Amaranth> err
[03:52] <Amaranth> that doesn't tell us much
[03:53] <Amaranth> lightboy: tvtime?
[03:53] <lightboy> Amaranth: whats tvtime?
[03:53] <detran> parham: use synaptic :)
[03:53] <kungkang> parham: be specific.
[03:53] <mushroom> apt-get install tvtime?
[03:53] <Amaranth> what he said
[03:53] <parham> okay one more try
[03:53] <Amaranth> i've never used it, just found it on packages.ubuntu.com
[03:54] <parham> and i will be gone
[03:54] <lightboy> Amaranth: like does it just display whats coming in to the card? and do u need special drivers? i have the nvidia ones installed
[03:54] <Amaranth> lightboy: I've never used it
[03:54] <parham> how do you enable file-sharing with windows system in Ubuntu without Samba or whatever
[03:54] <parham> ?
[03:54] <Amaranth> you need samba
[03:55] <jonathan_> hello
[03:55] <kungkang> parham: samba is the prefered method for establishing a network between windows and linux. why dont you want to use it?
[03:55] <parham> because it was like shit
[03:55] <parham> and it did not work
[03:55] <justin_> parham: nice attitude
[03:55] <jonathan_> I need some direction as to why I have system sounds but can't hear cd's
[03:55] <Amaranth> parham: Anything not using samba is either impossible or a lot harder.
[03:55] <mushroom> you wanna mount filesystem ?
[03:55] <anacron> hmm why it was shit?
[03:56] <chris__> can anyone help me, i seem to have a very simple sound problem i cannot handle (SIS7012 with CMI9761)
[03:56] <detran> parham: the samba config is really simple
[03:56] <kungkang> parham: well you could make use of the gnome virtual filesystem. it can virtually mount ssh/ftp and other protocols.
[03:56] <Amaranth> jonathan_: Either the volume is turned down or your CD-ROM doesn't have that little cable running from it to the sound card.
[03:56] <baris_> parham, http://ubuntuguide.org/#sshfromwindows maybe this can help
[03:56] <parham> i don't like to hire a programmer to share some damn files, i installed samba, and shared some folders, and nothing happened
[03:56] <b1uet> Can someone point me to an Ubuntu Bluetooth How-To or somethiing?
[03:57] <chrissturm> bluet: what problem do you have?
[03:57] <baris_> parham, i tried it with a friend and it worked well
[03:57] <b1uet> Bluetooth manager doesn't detect my adapter
[03:57] <jonathan_> everything is connected
[03:57] <b1uet> It is supposed to be officially supported under Ubuntu
[03:58] <chrissturm> bluet: do you have bluez* packages installed?
[03:58] <kungkang> parham: ok. in your case i would either (a) give us a better description of the problem or (b) use another protocol.
[03:58] <jonathan_> any other ideas Amaranth?
[03:58] <b1uet> chrishartley, no
[03:58] <b1uet> I'll istall it right away
[03:59] <Amaranth> jonathan_: Are you sure the sound is turned up for CDs?
[03:59] <parham> who are you actually? are you somehow involved in Ubuntu or what?
[03:59] <jonathan_> yes
[03:59] <chrissturm> bluet: that should solve your problems
[03:59] <Amaranth> jonathan_: No clue then.
[03:59] <kungkang> parham: no, just a fellow user :)
[03:59] <jonathan_> k..will keep playing then..thanks
[03:59] <b1uet> chrishartley, thanks
[03:59] <troglodyt> jonathan, can you hear mp3s?
[04:00] <b1uet> Nope, didn't work
[04:00] <baris_> troglodyt, which jonathan :P
[04:00] <chrissturm> bluet: you now have all bluez- packages installed?
[04:01] <b1uet> Not all
[04:02] <b1uet> I have bluez-pin and bluez-utils
[04:02] <Leliel_Stormhawk> xxtreme, does ubuntu come with EFI partition tables supported by default?
[04:02] <chrissturm> bluet: enter "hcitool scan"
[04:03] <iLLf8d> Leliel_Stormhawk, EFI?
[04:03] <justin_> Leliel_Stormhawk: grep -i efi /boot/config*
[04:03] <b1uet> ms@greybox:~$ hcitool scan
[04:03] <b1uet> Device is not available: Success
[04:03] <Leliel_Stormhawk> i';m not running ubuntu yet
[04:03] <Leliel_Stormhawk> just figuing out if i'll have to dfo a kernel recompile soon as i install it
[04:03] <Leliel_Stormhawk> EFI partition support, kills 4thgeneration, and mini ipods
[04:03] <chrissturm> bluet: what kind of bluetooth adapter do you have?
[04:04] <Leliel_Stormhawk> they simply refuse to mount if the kernel supports it
[04:04] <b1uet> I don't know
[04:04] <chrissturm> usb? pcmcia?
[04:04] <b1uet> Maybe it's in dmesg
[04:04] <b1uet> Built-in laptop one
[04:04] <chrissturm> ic
[04:04] <b1uet> Nothing in dmesg
[04:04] <chrissturm> bluet: try to install all the bluez packages, maybe that helps
[04:05] <BockBilbo> hello again
[04:05] <b1uet> All of them are installed now
[04:06] <chrissturm> bluet: maybe your kernel doesnt support it.... you tried dmesg | grep blue  ?
[04:06] <b1uet> No output
[04:06] <xxtreme> Leliel_Stormhawk= i see FC has lots of problems with ipod mini
[04:06] <Leliel_Stormhawk> xxtreme, not fc
 Nothing in dmesg
[04:07] <Leliel_Stormhawk> the kernel has problems, if the kernel supports EFI partitions, a bug int he ipod kills it
[04:07] <cmg_> cany anyone recommend a CVS (gui) client that doesn't COMPLETELY suck? (preferably that I can get from Synaptic)
[04:07] <justin_> b1uet: what bluetooth thingy does lspci say you have?
[04:07] <Leliel_Stormhawk> this is the same for all distro's
[04:07] <justin_> cmg_: what is wrong with the cvs program?
[04:07] <cmg_> justin_, what do you mean?
[04:07] <chrissturm> cmg: what about scm?
[04:07] <justin_> cmg_: /usr/bin/cvs
[04:07] <b1uet> justin_, doesn't say I have one
[04:07] <justin_> b1uet: are you sure that you do?
[04:07] <cmg_> justin_, i'm looking for a front-end for cvs.. cvs itself is fine
[04:08] <b1uet> ms@greybox:~$ lspci | grep blue
[04:08] <justin_> b1uet: no, just lspci, then read
[04:08] <b1uet> It works great in Windows
[04:08] <cmg_> chrissturm, never got scm setup
[04:08] <chrissturm> cmg: its tricky, but i can help you
[04:08] <b1uet> 0000:02:06.4 0805: Texas Instruments: Unknown device 8034
[04:09] <cmg_> chrissturm, is it worth it?     I'm tempted to write my own
[04:09] <chrissturm> cmg: once theres decent java support in ubuntu i will build a deb for it
[04:09] <chrissturm> cmg: scm is sooo great
[04:09] <cmg_> chrissturm, cool.. that would be good.. I installed the jvm yesterday so I guess I am part way there
[04:09] <Discipulus> hmm, Ubuntu seems to be limiting my bandwith.
[04:09] <Discipulus> I'm connected to my isp at 45333 like I should be but yet my download speeds are under 1 kb/s
[04:09] <b1uet> 0000:02:06.5 Communication controller: Texas Instruments: Unknown device 8035
[04:10] <toran> what command can I run to see what a new device's /dev assignment is?
[04:10] <cmg_> I would think there would be like 50 awesome front-ends for CVS.. but nope
[04:10] <chrissturm> bluet: it seems that its not supported by the kernel
[04:10] <chrissturm> cmg: thats ok, because you need just one
[04:10] <Seveas> b1uet, you're out of luck, TI never releases specifications...
[04:10] <Discipulus> I talked to my ISP and they said it seems  to be on my end
[04:10] <cmg_> chrissturm, true..
[04:10] <Leliel_Stormhawk> Discipulus, they always say that
[04:10] <Discipulus> haha
[04:11] <b1uet> But some docs sais it's supported by Ubuntu
[04:11] <toran> what command can I run to see what a new device's /dev assignment is?
[04:11] <cmg_> chrissturm, whats the link for scm.. I'm gonna try...  I was playing with lincvs and gcvs this morning.. both are embarrasingly bad pieces of software
[04:11] <Leliel_Stormhawk> Discipulus, seriously, no isp has a problem, unless it affects more than 100k users
[04:11] <chris__> anyone got the sound running on a SIS7012 Onboard Card? please help me...
[04:11] <jansen> i'm used the breezy,but my x is shutdown
[04:11] <Discipulus> Leliel_Stormhawk, my ISP doesn't have 100k users...
[04:11] <sly> chris__ mine is a sis somthing or other and works fine
[04:11] <Leliel_Stormhawk> chris_ are you getting system sounds?
[04:11] <chrissturm> cmg: gcvs is really bad
[04:11] <Discipulus> Leliel_Stormhawk, it's a local dial-up ISP
[04:12] <chrissturm> cmg: but i told you :)
[04:12] <Leliel_Stormhawk> sorry Discipulus, i have no idea what is cuasing it
[04:12] <Discipulus> :-\
[04:12] <Discipulus> :'(
[04:12] <Discipulus> damn mother
[04:12] <exalted> hi, can anyone tell me how to remove any possibile installed package to my system in any repository but main?
[04:12] <Discipulus> too stubborn to get DSL or Cable...like the rest of the freakin world
[04:12] <nikkia> b1uet: as much as i hate the company, belkin's usb bluetooth adapters work perfectly with linux
[04:12] <nikkia> (and they're as cheap as dirt these days)
[04:13] <chris__> Leliel_Stormhawk, jes!
[04:13] <chrissturm> cmg: http://www.jessies.org/~enh/software/scm/
[04:13] <Discipulus> it's taking 20 minutes just to do a bandwith test!
[04:13] <bluemax> i have ubuntu installed, and i want to install windows xp now also for dual-boot. would this be fairly easy by just putting in a new hard disk and installing XP to that HD?
[04:13] <Leliel_Stormhawk> chris__, see if you have a soundserver running, if you do, kill it and see if that helps
[04:13] <chris__> Leliel_Stormhawk, system sounts (like pressing bkspace in terminal...)
[04:13] <greg__> is it safe to install network-manager from breezy on hoary?
[04:13] <chris__> Leliel_Stormhawk, im running KDE
[04:13] <cmg_> chrissturm, thanks.. i'll d/l it again (also, us tab completion when you type my name so i know msgs are for me :)
[04:14] <chris__> Leliel_Stormhawk, killall esd?
[04:14] <chris__> ne esd running
[04:14] <chrissturm> cmg: right, but your name is so short. maybe you should add notification for "cmg" too :D
[04:14] <Leliel_Stormhawk> chris__, there should be a way to simply kill just the server, and make it stay dead
[04:14] <Leliel_Stormhawk> chris__, i don;t know much about kde, i use gnome
[04:15] <chrissturm> cmg_, you just need to download the 2 archives, and extract them to the same directory
[04:15] <Leliel_Stormhawk> however, with a oundserver running, you have to either make the apps talk through it, or kill the soundserver, since it locks the soundcard
[04:15] <chris__> Leliel_Stormhawk, tried it, no changes... and on gnome it doesn't work, too
[04:16] <Leliel_Stormhawk> chris__, what drivers are you using?
[04:16] <jansen> my computer's temp. it's so high,what can i do it?
[04:16] <chris__> Leliel_Stormhawk, drivers
[04:17] <Leliel_Stormhawk> chris__, yes, drivers, but alsa? arts? oss?
[04:17] <cmg_> chrissturm, ok.. i untarred scm and it creates an /scm/ directory.. does the lib go inside that directory? or the directory I untarred scm into
[04:17] <chris__> Leliel_Stormhawk, driver is alsav1.06
[04:17] <chris__> Leliel_Stormhawk, driver is alsav1.06 emulation code
[04:17] <chrissturm> cmg_, the salma-hayek lib needs to go where the scm dir is
[04:17] <Leliel_Stormhawk> chris__, try the oss drivers
[04:18] <cmg_> chrissturm,  right.. but inside the scm dir?
[04:18] <chrissturm> cmg_: i have a directory /usr/java where i put all java stuff
[04:18] <chrissturm> cmg_, nope
[04:19] <chris__> Leliel_Stormhawk, ok, give me some minutes..
[04:19] <cmg_> chrissturm, ok.. got them untarred.. and have a jvm installed
[04:20] <Leliel_Stormhawk> chris__, are apps adressing the right device?
[04:20] <bubuche> hello
[04:20] <chrissturm> cmg_: try <path_to_scm>/bin/checkintool
[04:20] <bubuche> ?
[04:20] <Discipulus> Alright, my internet moves so slow I failed a speed test.
[04:20] <bubuche> il y a des Francais ?
[04:20] <chrissturm> cmg_, while being inside a cvs managed directory
[04:21] <DJHasis> Anyone know what package includes file libX11muu.so.1 cause GDM can't find it?
[04:21] <cmg_> chrissturm, well.. to start I want to check out a tree.. so i dont have a dir yet
[04:21] <Leliel_Stormhawk> chris__, google is telling em the intel i810 shoudl work for the SIS7012, using oss drivers
[04:21] <lightboy> n e one here know how to use tvtime with a vivo videocard
[04:21] <troglodyt> bubuche, try #ubuntu-fr
[04:21] <chrissturm> cmg_: check it out with commandline cvs
[04:22] <cmg_> chrissturm, ok
[04:22] <chrissturm> cmg_, cvs co -P:pserver ....
[04:22] <Leliel_Stormhawk> gah, oss uses the same driver for intel i810 and SIS701, so make sure that the i810 is supported by the kernel
[04:22] <chrissturm> cmg_, scm is just for stuff that doesnt work well with commandline
[04:23] <cmg_> chrissturm, cool.. gimme a sec to check it out
[04:23] <chrishartley> My toshiba satellite 1735 screen is being incorrectly autodetected by X as 800x600 when windows can do 1024x768. Anyone know how to force the screen size? All my xorg.conf stettings are being over-ridden by this autodetection
[04:24] <lightboy> so does n e one know if tvtime supports ViVo video cards?
[04:26] <sly> Leliel what distro did you say you was coming from ?
[04:26] <Leliel_Stormhawk> sly Fedora core
[04:27] <SuperSheeP> hello
[04:27] <zever> someone have experienced troubles playing mp3s after upgrading to hoary from warty
[04:27] <sly> :)
[04:27] <SuperSheeP> cool UBUNTU
[04:27] <cmg_> chrissturm, got scm to start :)  thats a good sign
[04:28] <sly> i guess they would be a lot you would be manualy installed from a 4disk distro to 1disk ??
[04:28] <exalted> How to remove all the packages but main's from my system?
[04:29] <Leliel_Stormhawk> sly, i used the DVD images
[04:29] <chrissturm> cmg: it can do 2 things: check stuff in (checkintool) and display file revisions (revisiontool)
[04:29] <cmg_> chrissturm, but it's just hanging at "getting file statuses" (there are actually no files.. I checked out an empty module as my working directory)
[04:30] <Leliel_Stormhawk> though, sly, some woudl say that the 3Gb size of the dvd image, is symptomatic of fedora's bloat
[04:30] <sly> indeed....... im trying to think of somthing quite that big that fedora has over ubuntu ?
[04:30] <chrissturm> cmg_, try using it in a way that makes sense :)
[04:31] <Discipulus> Are you guys sure it isn't Ubuntu that's limiting my bandwith?
[04:31] <sly> Discipulus ..... why whoudl ubuntu do that ?
[04:31] <Discipulus> I dunno
[04:31] <cmg_> chrissturm, lol.. well what I wanted to do was import an empty module (which I did).. and then begin adding files to working directory and checking them into CVS with a gui
[04:31] <Discipulus> my ISP says it's my side
[04:31] <Discipulus> I disagree
[04:32] <sly> all isp's do
[04:32] <Discipulus> lol
[04:32] <chrissturm> cmg_, so you have an empty cvs module checked out.
[04:32] <sly> my isp dude on the phone asked whats linux
[04:32] <Discipulus> and my mom's too much of a bitch to let me get cable or DSL
[04:32] <chrissturm> cmg_, copy the files you want to add there
[04:32] <chrissturm> cmg_, and then run the checkintool again
[04:32] <chrissturm> cmg_, it will show you what files are new and changed, and let you add and commit
[04:32] <sly> if you aint on cable or dsl........ you cant realy be getting speeds to see if its going slow or not ?
[04:32] <Leliel_Stormhawk> Discipulus, the only time i have had my isp admit there was a problem,. was when the fact that their fiber lines had been broken on 2 places was on the national news, and the stock exchange was taken down byt the damage
[04:33] <Discipulus> haha
[04:33] <Leliel_Stormhawk> only last week
[04:33] <Discipulus> sly, you can if you're only getting .5 kbps
[04:33] <Discipulus> sly, instead of 53 kbps
[04:34] <sly> Hmm
[04:34] <Discipulus> sly, download speeds are usually around 200-300 b/s
[04:34] <Leliel_Stormhawk> Discipulus, look at the logs, are you getting any errors?
[04:34] <Discipulus> Leliel_Stormhawk, nope
[04:34] <sly> what dialup connection gives you 53k/s
[04:34] <sly> ?
[04:34] <SuperSheeP> COOL WINDOWS XP
[04:34] <Discipulus> sly, kilobits per second
[04:34] <Discipulus> not kilobytes
[04:34] <Discipulus> ;-)
[04:34] <sly> yeh yeh shhhh
[04:34] <SuperSheeP> ;-)
[04:34] <greg__> is it safe to install network-manager from breezy on hoary?
[04:35] <sly> and this worked fine befor ubuntu on ........................... ?
[04:35] <chrissturm> greg__, network manager crashes for me
[04:35] <greg__> chrissturm, hmm...
[04:35] <sly> SuperSheep you feeling ok ?
[04:35] <greg__> chrissturm, like always? or just sometimes?
[04:35] <chrissturm> greg__, you can always try it
[04:36] <greg__> chrissturm, yeah I am installing it right now so we will see how this goes
[04:36] <Discipulus> hmm, might my mom randomly turning off my computer in the middle of the night while I was downloading something have disturbed my download speeds?
[04:36] <Discipulus> my download speeds were fine last night
[04:36] <Discipulus> and I wake up this morning
[04:36] <Leliel_Stormhawk> unlikely Discipulus
[04:36] <mjr> Discipulus, no
[04:36] <Discipulus> and they're just TOO slow, even on dial-ups standards
[04:36] <SuperSheeP> ON aMsn , i can have a webcam ?
[04:37] <greg__> Discipulus, the internet is under attack, so expect it to be slow
[04:37] <charly_> i cant we java webpage in firefox webbrowser
[04:37] <SuperSheeP> on Amsn , i can have a Webcam ?
[04:37] <cmg_> chrissturm, seems to work :)
[04:37] <greg__> chrissturm, installing network-manager is upgrading openoffice and other stuff too
[04:38] <cmg_> chrissturm, need to explore more.. but so far this is by far the best one i've tried
[04:38] <sly> charly_ apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[04:38] <sly> ?
[04:38] <chrissturm> greg: you'd better download the source deb and build it
[04:38] <greg__> cmg_, what is the best of what again?
[04:39] <Discipulus> it dipped above 1 kb/s
[04:39] <Discipulus> but it's going constant at 899 b/s
[04:39] <Discipulus> :-\
[04:39] <chrissturm> greg: scm is the best svn and cvs frontend
[04:39] <Discipulus> goddamnit
[04:39] <charly_> can i get sun -j2rel.5 from synaptic package manger
[04:39] <sly> who Discipulus you could have a ebook in a day ;)
[04:39] <cmg_> greg__, yeah.. what chrissturn said
[04:39] <sly> sorry , did not help
[04:40] <greg__> chrissturm, too late
[04:40] <greg__> chrissturm, what is the name of the user space application?
[04:40] <sly> Leliel_Stormhawk how long you been on fedora ?
[04:41] <Leliel_Stormhawk> sly about 2 months, and 4 system rebuilds
[04:41] <lightboy> can n e one help me with a vivo video card problem?
[04:41] <Leliel_Stormhawk> sly, i migrated after windows exploded 3 times, in one weekend
[04:42] <sly> and fecora exploded 4/5 times in a weekend ? ;)
[04:42] <Leliel_Stormhawk> i'm sorry Discipulus, i really have no idea what might cause it
[04:42] <Discipulus> GRRRRRR
[04:42] <sly> befor ubuntu i was dual-boot
[04:42] <Leliel_Stormhawk> actually no sly, i've only had 2 major issues with fedora, firstly, ipod mini support, is a bitch to get working
[04:42] <Discipulus> why is it moving so FUCKING slow?
[04:43] <Leliel_Stormhawk> and secondly, the way they dealt with mp3 licensing
[04:43] <Discipulus> this is really pissing me off
[04:43] <Discipulus> brb, gonna try a restart
[04:43] <sly> but i cant see your real issue with the 2nd option
[04:43] <Discipulus> and cross my fingers it helps
[04:43] <sly> as long as you got it to work
[04:43] <sly> ouch restart ??
[04:43] <greg__> the new hal (0.5.2) does not detect any devices other than acpi stuff, thus network-manager does not find any network devices
[04:43] <charly_> while i am installg sun -j2rel.5 from synaptic package manager,it shows an error which was '401 Authorization Required'
[04:44] <cmg_> charly_, i tried installing java yesterday and had a hell of a time and ended up getting it from Sun instead
[04:44] <Leliel_Stormhawk> sly, control. i don't like anyone having any control over my system, or what goes on it, bar me
[04:45] <charly_> did u installed it properly
[04:45] <cmg_> charly_, i installed it from Sun and it works fine
[04:45] <lightboy> does n e one have a working ViVo setup?
[04:46] <sly> if thats how you feel.................... did you hate windows altogether ?
[04:46] <sly> didnt * in the first place*
[04:46] <charly_> please give me the path to proper site where i get that
[04:46] <cmg_> chrissturm, any way I can make it so it doesn't ask me for a password every cvs command I do? (im using SSH.. probably should use keys?)
[04:46] <zever> someone have experienced troubles playing mp3s after upgrading to hoary from warty
[04:46] <cmg_> charly... go to java.sun.com.. download j2se5.0
[04:47] <Leliel_Stormhawk> sly, have for a logn time, and tried to migate to linux several times
[04:47] <Leliel_Stormhawk> the problem was, i'm lazy, and it was eaier to jsut keep using windows, rather than learn linux
[04:48] <charly_> i also want to know where i get the themes and nice wallpapers for ubantu
[04:48] <lightboy> can n e one help me with rivatv?
[04:48] <Leliel_Stormhawk> but, after a week of absolute refusal to go anywhere near microsoft, and a fedora core 3 dvd form the last attempt, i'd learnt enough to stick with linux
[04:50] <sly> i think mine went. (Dual Booting) mandrake ........... college linux .......... back to mandrake read about Unbuntu. i like it that much im now Ubuntu only on this pc
[04:50] <sly> when trying the others it was always dual-boot untill maybe 2month ago now
[04:51] <greg__> the new hal (0.5.2) does not detect any devices other than acpi stuff, thus network-manager does not find any network devices
[04:51] <greg__> any ideas on why hal can't find anything?
[04:51] <greg__> the old hal worked just fine
[04:51] <Leliel_Stormhawk> sly, i found when dualbooting, that i would just use the windows all the time
[04:52] <sly> haha , =\
[04:52] <charly_> i want to know where i get ubantu wallpaper and themes
[04:52] <sly> gnomelook.org for themes/icons etc
[04:53] <Albaraha> I got errors when trying to update ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/300
[04:54] <SuperSheeP> hello WOrld
[04:54] <SuperSheeP> editeur C++ linux ?
[04:54] <SuperSheeP> ?
[04:55] <icaro> SuperSheeP, nano
[04:55] <icaro> lol
[04:55] <sly> SuperSheep are you on drugs by anychance ?
[04:57] <evader> Hi I seemed to get ubuntu working fine. I followed the UbuntuWiki guide - but instead of using CVS I used the backports mirrors for Hoary. Anyway - it seems to work - my memory usage is quite high though. Since I got it working, I can use beagle-status ... it just sits there blank
[04:57] <evader> If i start beagle in --fg --debug mode - i can see it indexing though
[04:57] <Discipulus> hmm, a reboot helped a lil bit
[04:57] <Discipulus> I'm at 7.5 kbps now...
[04:57] <evader> ooops i meant I seemed to get *beagle* working fine
[04:58] <evader> Anyidea why beagle-status might not work if beagle seems to being working (even if mem. usage is a bit high)
[04:58] <sly> what would you class a bit high ?
[04:59] <evader> Well I have 512mb/ram - system was getting up to ~40mb free only
[04:59] <evader> That's with gnome + xchat running only.
[04:59] <evader> (and beagled/best)
[04:59] <echylo_> anyone uses nec nd 3540 around here? which program do you use to write cd-r's & dvd's?
[04:59] <evader> I just dont understand why I can't use beagle-status or beagle-info stuff...
[04:59] <nikkia> sly, i would class 'high' the reason i stopped using beagle - when it tried to load the entire contents of a 4GB rar file into memory, and crashed my kernel
[05:00] <Quest-Master> Dead X: someone help, please :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44748
[05:00] <evader> nikkia, eek :|
[05:01] <sly> =/
[05:01] <tuxJr_14> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/include/circle.jpg shows five people/heads but the logo seems like only 3 people/heads. is it only me or is there a specific reason for that except being the original logo
[05:02] <root__> Yes, I know
[05:02] <wasabi____> okay, so in X, my keys don't work right.
[05:03] <wasabi____> j changes zoom mode.
[05:03] <wasabi____> Most keys either zoom in or out.
[05:03] <wasabi____> Oh, I see
[05:03] <evader> nikkia, So any idea why I can't use beagle-status since I got it working/indexing files? When it wasn't really working (only indexing gaim and websites), beagle-status worked fine.
[05:04] <Deanodriver> hey
[05:04] <echylo_> anyone uses nec nd 3540 around here? which program do you use to write cd-r's & dvd's?
[05:04] <dabi> any cmd to see own localhost ip assigned by dhcp?
[05:04] <Deanodriver> are there any gnome applets that display CPU temperature and the like? and if so, how do I install one? :)
[05:05] <Deanodriver> i've got lm-sensors installed
[05:05] <djg> Hi, I'm trying to run GNOME, but it gets as far as logging in, and halts totally.
[05:05] <dabi> Deanodriver: hardware-monitor
[05:05] <Deanodriver> dabi, cool, thanks, I'll give it a shot :)
[05:05] <Discipulus> Leliel_Stormhawk, it didn't really help
[05:05] <djg> Does anyone know if GNOME is broken in Breezy?
[05:05] <tuxJr_14> i had registered for ubuntu CDs at shipit.ubuntulinux.org. but it has been a long time and i haven't recived any. the page at the site (after logging) in says:CD Mailing History
[05:05] <tuxJr_14> Date 	Quantity Sent
[05:05] <tuxJr_14> 2004-11-08 22:51:12.43 	13
[05:05] <tuxJr_14> 2005-02-01 00:00:00.00 	50
[05:05] <Discipulus> I can't connect to AIM my connection is so slow
[05:05] <Discipulus> brb
[05:06] <Deanodriver> does it have a CPU temperature monitor component?
[05:06] <tuxJr_14> and a lot more apart from that
[05:06] <evader> dabi: from a console: ifconfig eth0
[05:06] <evader> djg, I was on Breezy the other day - gnome was fine - other stuff wasnt (easytag, nvidia)
[05:07] <evader> tuxJr_14, they have mailing schedules
[05:07] <evader> the dont mail as soon as you ask - the mass mail every so often
[05:07] <evader> i believe there is a schedule somewhere
[05:07] <djg> evader: It was fine this morning, but did an update and now it won't work at all.  GDM starts fine as usual, but I get a blank screen when starting a new session.
[05:07] <CyberMania> dose anyone know how to get interent to work with Ubuntu then
[05:07] <tuxJr_14> evader, i registered somewhere in november last year
[05:08] <evader> djg, try a different window manager for now (apt-get install fluxbox)
[05:08] <djg> evader: Good idea.
[05:08] <djg> brb
[05:08] <tuxJr_14> CyberMania, dial-up?
[05:08] <CyberMania> no ADSL
[05:08] <CyberMania> modem
[05:08] <CyberMania> ...
[05:09] <CyberMania> Dial-Up slow lol...
[05:10] <tuxJr_14> CyberMania, you use adsl?
[05:10] <tuxJr_14> what kind?
[05:10] <CyberMania> yes
[05:11] <CyberMania> I use tiscali broadband
[05:11] <CyberMania> ADSL modem
[05:11] <tuxJr_14> pppoe or what?
[05:11] <tuxJr_14> is the router connected by ethernet?
[05:11] <tuxJr_14> or is it a direct one?
[05:12] <CyberMania> its direct
[05:12] <CyberMania> the ADSL modem connected by USB
[05:12] <tuxJr_14> Evans, does it have ethernet?
[05:13] <evader> Anyone know why Beagle won't let me run 'beagle-status' - I don't get any output at all.
[05:13] <Evans> nah no Ehter
[05:13] <yuacht> is there a tool to check when a certain cvs were update last?
[05:13] <yuacht> where*
[05:15] <synic> anyone use ubuntu on amd64?
[05:16] <pedingto> Just a quick question about the syntax of the mysqladmin command.
[05:16] <synic> I just got the latest kernel update, and now I can't boot my system.
[05:16] <pedingto> to set the password after install is it... mysqladmin -u root password mynewpassword?
[05:16] <synic> "VFS: can't mount root fs" when trying to boot.
[05:17] <Deanodriver> hi again
[05:17] <mai> synic, sounds like a bad initrd image
[05:17] <mai> synic: did you compile it yourself?
[05:17] <Deanodriver> i've tried installing hardware-monitor, but I can't add it to my gnome panel
[05:17] <synic> mai: nope.
[05:17] <evader> pedingto, i believe so
[05:18] <Deanodriver> "The panel encounted a problem while loading "OAFIID:HardwareMonitor".
[05:18] <mai> synic: hmm, it would have kept the old one (i think), probably just boot off that one for now
[05:18] <Deanodriver> any ideas?
[05:18] <synic> mai: unfortunately, they are named the same thing.  The old one is gone.
[05:18] <pedingto> Cool, does it matter which order I install Apache/MySQL in?  Will it be easier to install Apache first?
[05:18] <synic> mai: so I tried installing the linux-image off of the install cd, no go
[05:18] <mai> synic, crap.  try making a new initrd image (run mkinitrd)
[05:18] <evader> pedingto, doesn't matter
[05:18] <pedingto> Good good. :)
[05:19] <pedingto> Cheers, evader.
[05:19] <mai> synic: the old kernel doesn't work, or it wouldn't let you install?
[05:19] <synic> mai: it installed fine, but I get the same thing when I reboot
[05:19] <SpecialBuddy> does anyone know how to make your desktop look and act like windows
[05:19] <mai> synic: hmm, are you sure it's not a corrupt file system or something then?
[05:20] <evader> SpecialBuddy, Install windows
[05:20] <synic> mai: this exact same thing happened the last time I updated the kernel.  I finally got it working, but I can't remember what package I reinstalled
[05:20] <evader> or find a theme. there is some linux distro's around that do exactly that
[05:20] <SpecialBuddy> I can't
[05:20] <Evans> anyone wanna know a good online game?
[05:20] <SpecialBuddy> I want it for my girlfriend
[05:20] <SpecialBuddy> she complains
[05:20] <mai> synic: hmm, this has never happened to me.  generally when i get that error it's because i compiled my kernel w/out initrd support... you could probably google it though
[05:20] <SpecialBuddy> whats a good online game
[05:20] <Hackmo> hey all
[05:20] <Evans> www.spacetrace.org
[05:20] <Evans> try it
[05:20] <Hackmo> how do I make xmms my default player?
[05:21] <Evans> :P
[05:21] <Deanodriver> right click on a file in nautilus
[05:21] <Deanodriver> go to properties
[05:21] <Deanodriver> Open With tab
[05:21] <evader> Anyone know why Beagle won't let me run 'beagle-status' - I don't get any output at all.
[05:21] <synic> mai: tried that... most of them are people who compiled their own kernels
[05:21] <Deanodriver> and select which app you want as default :)
[05:21] <Hackmo> Deanodriver: ok thanks
[05:21] <Deanodriver> no probs
[05:22] <mai> synic, hmm... sorry :(
[05:22] <synic> mai: seems to me that security updates shouldn't bring your system down
[05:22] <synic> especially two security updates in a row
[05:23] <Deanodriver> but yeah
[05:23] <Deanodriver> i've tried installing hardware-monitor, but I can't add it to my gnome panel
[05:24] <mai> synic, yeah i'm not sure what's up w/ that... i've never had this problem
[05:24] <Deanodriver> keeps popping up with errors
[05:24] <synic> mai: you using amd64?
[05:25] <Deanodriver> anyone? :)
[05:25] <mai> synic, no, i'm just running a p4
[05:25] <synic> mai: ah, this hasn't happened on any of my x86 machines
[05:27] <mai> synic, oh ok... i don't really know anything about amd64... that sounds like trouble though
[05:31] <cmg_> chrissturm, in scm.. if I checkin a directory, does everything under it get checked in also?  or just a blank dir?
[05:32] <chrissturm> cmg_: thats a bit of a problem.
[05:32] <chrissturm> cmg: you need to do it in 2 passes
[05:32] <chrissturm> cmg_, check in the directory, and then check in the files
[05:32] <cmg_> chrissturm, thats fine.. i prefer if it _doesnt_ check in the files
[05:33] <chrissturm> cmg_, about your other question: use public key auth, works with sf.net
[05:33] <cmg_> chrissturm, I added a key to my sf account, but scm is still asking for my password
[05:34] <chrissturm> cmg_, try to connect with normal ssh
[05:34] <cmg_> chrissturm, and with the directory thing.. do I have to check in the dir.. exit scm... change to the dir.. start scm again?
[05:34] <chrissturm> cmg_, there can be multiple issues. it can take up to a day for the key to propagate, you need to put it in your local .ssh2 directory
[05:35] <cmg_> chrissturm, or does it let me drill down into dirs and checkin files?
[05:35] <chrissturm> cmg_, nope, scm automatically refreshes after the checkin
[05:35] <aleksi> hey, how do I change apache from showing my site as mydomain/apache2-default/mysite to mydomain/mysite?
[05:35] <cmg_> chrissturm, i put the key in my local dir.. in ./ssh/id_rsa.pub
[05:36] <chrissturm> cmg_, the dir is sometimes called .ssh2
[05:36] <cmg_> chrissturm, i'll figure out out.. thanks ;)
[05:37] <chrissturm> cmg_, you need to get ssh working first, try connecting to the host with pure ssh.
[05:38] <cmg_> chrissturm, ok.. cool. one more thing.. can you tell it to ignore files?
[05:38] <chrissturm> cmg_, thats a cvs issue
[05:38] <chrissturm> cmg_, create a file .cvsignore
[05:39] <chrissturm> and put the ignored files there
[05:39] <chrissturm> cmg_, and check it in
[05:39] <chrissturm> cmg_, google cvsignore (i didnt use cvs for a long time)
[05:40] <cmg_> chrissturm.  like in my working directory i have source files and bytecode files.. i never want to checkin bytecode or even see it listed on scm... will doing cvsignore give me that?
[05:40] <TTT_Travis|G3> can anyone access http://ttt-server.info
[05:40] <cmg_> chrissturm, in TortoiseCVS, you just mark a file as "non-cvs" and it is ignored
[05:40] <chrissturm> cmg_, yep
[05:41] <aleksi> please could somenody tell me how do I change apache from showing my site as mydomain/apache2-default/mysite to mydomain/mysite?
[05:41] <chrissturm> cmg_, tortoisecvs writes to the .cvsignore file too :)
[05:41] <cmg_> chrissturm, oh cool.. can you do wildcards?  like *.pyc... and all .pyc gets ignored?
[05:41] <Evans> aleksi: get a domain name
[05:41] <Evans> or try
[05:42] <Evans> http://kickme.to/
[05:42] <chrissturm> cmg, i think so, but i am not sure how exactly. try googling
[05:42] <mai> aleksi, go edit your httpd2.conf
[05:42] <mai> aleksi, read the man page
[05:42] <cmg_> chrissturm, ok.. thanks a lot ;)
[05:42] <TTT_Travis|G3> can anyone access http://ttt-server.info , I can but its within my network
[05:43] <chrissturm> cmg_, np :) btw, what are you coding? :)
[05:43] <TTT_Travis|G3> I want to make sure everyone can
[05:43] <Amaranth> TTT_Travis|G3: I can.
[05:43] <yann_> TTT_Travis|G3 > it works
[05:43] <TTT_Travis|G3> thanks :)
[05:44] <yann_> just a question, does someone know if any of the locoteams has already switched to canonical's linode's hosting?
[05:46] <davro> TTT_Travis|G3, yup can see it here.
[05:47] <lynx> hey guys, what p2p client do u recommend? i'd like to download some mp3
[05:47] <davro> TTT_Travis|G3, time is off here though 10:46 am its 16.47 here
[05:52] <Evans> lynx
[05:52] <mattm> anyone get SVG plugins working on firefox?
[05:52] <Evans> P2P theres a crackdown on it
[05:53] <Evans> try www.mp3000.net
[05:53] <goldfish> lynx: amule
[05:53] <goldfish> limewire
[05:53] <goldfish> etc...
[05:53] <DrSchlauf> where can i find a matrox driver for xorg?
[05:55] <ep> Hi, I've installed bzflag vs 1.x using apt-get.  No I want to upgrade to bzflag version 2.  A bzflag deb file is availiable for download.
[05:56] <ep> Before I read up on installing using deb files.  I thought I'd as if maybe its possible to add an additiona source repository and get the newer version of bzflag via apt-get.  How can i determine if this is possible?
[05:56] <ep> *thought I'd ask
[05:57] <gourmet> bonjour
[05:58] <Poromies> yes, its possible to use debian reps
[05:58] <joesi> hi
[05:58] <Poromies> but its not that wise to keep em open, just dl that one/those packages that you need from them
[05:58] <joesi> anyone know how to connect to a novellserver from ubuntu?
[05:59] <joesi> no idea and can find anything..
[05:59] <joesi> cant*
[05:59] <gourmet> y as quelqun qui peut me dire ou je suis la?
[06:00] <gourmet> bay bay
[06:00] <trog_> gourmet, try #ubuntu-fr
[06:00] <gourmet> ok meri
[06:01] <Troglodyt> de rein
[06:01] <GNULinuxer> gobeavs, au revoir
[06:01] <GNULinuxer> gourmet, , au revoir
[06:02] <gourmet> bay gnulinuxer
[06:02] <Quest-Master> Dead X: someone help, please :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44748
[06:03] <SogniX> anyone know of a way to get VNC on OSX to scale the viewer down to size - or of another way to view the desktop/apps on my ubuntu box without having to change the screen's resolution? :p
[06:04] <apollo2011> Will the PowerPC version of Ubuntu run on an iMac?
[06:06] <mrpickles> hello room, I came wondering if anyone has ever had sound issues with flash on mozilla firefox
[06:06] <cmg_> chrissturm, got it all working now.. with ssh too ;)
[06:07] <chrissturm> cmg_, cool
[06:07] <Evans> Opera is the best
[06:07] <Evans> !!!
[06:07] <ubotu> No idea, Evans
[06:07] <Evans> !seen Evans
[06:07] <cmg_> chrissturm, btw... its a system monitoring tool I am writing.. its in Python
[06:07] <ubotu> evans is currently on #ubuntu
[06:07] <pete_MMU_UK> could anyone tell me how to add a hdparm command to run on my startup?
[06:08] <mrpickles> I've installed flash on mozilla firefox and it seems to run fine, but there is absolutely no sound from flash
[06:08] <Evans> MrPickles
[06:08] <Evans> try Opera out
[06:08] <Evans> its alot nicer
[06:08] <limer> pete_MMU_UK: I believe ubuntuguide.org covers that
[06:08] <Evans> i think any
[06:08] <chrissturm> evans: not really
[06:08] <Evans> i think it is
[06:08] <Evans> Mozilla is alright after a while
[06:08] <Evans> it looks and gets boring
[06:08] <Poromies> pete_MMU_UK: make those commands permanent by editing /etc/hdparm.conf
[06:08] <Evans> Opera is nice
[06:09] <chrissturm> mrpickles, the problem is esd. try if it works if you issue "killall esd" first
[06:09] <pete_MMU_UK> ok thanks
[06:09] <Evans> anyone else here that can help me with USB
[06:09] <Evans> ADSL modem
[06:09] <Poromies> pete_MMU_UK: just read the conf before you edit it, there are good instructions in it
[06:09] <Varanger> mrpickles: I just pop in... what is you problem?
[06:10] <mrpickles> first of all, i would like to know how to make my text red like varanger and chrissturm did
[06:10] <chrissturm> mrpickles, this text is red for you, because it contains your name
[06:10] <hon> hi guys, is there any photoshop-ish environment settings for gimp?
[06:11] <chrissturm> mrpickles, its not red for the others
[06:11] <Poromies> hon: yes, gimp-shop
[06:11] <Poromies> try to google it out
[06:11] <mrpickles> chrissturm, so you see it as red but no one else does ?
[06:11] <chrissturm> mrpickles, its to help you find out that someone says something to you
[06:11] <Varanger> If I write ----------> mrpickles   .... you'll see the line in red
[06:11] <Troglodyt> I need to talk to someone who has a working dual head ATI set up
[06:11] <chrissturm> mrpickles, i saw the line you just wrote in red because it contains my name
[06:12] <Varanger> If you write ------------> Varanger / crisstum ....... chrisstum and I will see the line in red
[06:12] <pedingto> Hey, I'm starting to feel semi-smart with ubuntu now, I just set up the static network address I need ;)
[06:12] <mrpickles> chrissturm, alright thats awesome. To restate my problem, i installed the flash player plug in fire mozilla firefox.  flash seems to play the animations but i get absolutely no sound.
[06:12] <Poromies> Evans: hmm try to Google <Your ADSL Modem> linux drivers/support, if no one either here or in the forums answers
[06:13] <kev0r> hahaha linux is so great for gaming
[06:13] <Poromies> i dont know anything about them, never had one, only seen them flash by me in kernel-config :|
[06:13] <kev0r> just take another TTY to chat :D
[06:15] <limer> exit
[06:15] <limer> :P
[06:16] <kev0r> exit?
[06:16] <kev0r> nooo don't exit :(
[06:17] <kwilcox> Anybody have positive experience with the RT2500 wireless drivers?/
[06:17] <kwilcox> my card shows up in the PCI list and in iwocnfig, but will not connect
[06:18] <SogniX> how can i start the vnc server via the terminal?
[06:18] <SogniX> or, what is the command - I can't seem to find it
[06:18] <ep> I've got a dated game package (old version).  Deb file avail for download.  Shouldn't be a problem installing via a deb, right?
[06:18] <kwilcox> /etc/init.d/something start
[06:19] <SogniX> i dont recognize anything in there as being a vnc server :(
[06:20] <joesi> anyone know how to connect to a novellserver from ubuntu?
[06:21] <root__> r,gr
[06:21] <kwilcox> sognix: it should be started already
[06:22] <kwilcox> Anybody have positive experience with the RT2500 wireless drivers?/
[06:22] <kwilcox> my card shows up in the PCI list and in iwocnfig, but will not connect
[06:22] <Razor-X> I named my ssh screen session Lufthansa, for some odd reason...
[06:22] <ep> I'd like to convert my father to ubuntu but he's hooked on online poker -- pokerstars etal.  probably require IE.  Can these work using Wine or some other means.
[06:22] <stratovarius> hey
[06:23] <Razor-X> ep: there probably is an online Poker client that works with WINE
[06:23] <Tomcat_> ep: I doubt it, but I heard you can somehow run IE with Wine...
[06:23] <stratovarius> what is the best media player in ubuntu?
[06:23] <Razor-X> stratovarius: VLC
[06:23] <stratovarius> what does it read?
[06:23] <Razor-X> just about everything
[06:23] <Razor-X> if VLC can't play it, little else can
[06:23] <Tomcat_> stratovarius: I like totem... uncluttered and plays anything that I watch.
[06:24] <Evans> brb
[06:24] <stratovarius> totem doesnt shows me video
[06:24] <stratovarius> dunno why
[06:24] <Razor-X> Tomcat_: you never played something in HuffyV H.236 ?
[06:24] <stratovarius> and it hasnt got a play list windows
[06:24] <Razor-X> shame on you ;)
[06:24] <Razor-X> I'm an encoder at heart, so, heh
[06:24] <Troglodyt> I need to talk to someone who has a working dual head ATI set up, please
[06:24] <Razor-X> in fact... what are some good encoding/transcoding apps for Linux?
[06:25] <stratovarius> Razor-x: does VLC have a play list windows?
[06:25] <Tomcat_> Razor-X: Not yet... only the generals: XviD, DivX, DVD, MPG1, QuickTime, Real.
[06:25] <Tomcat_> Razor-X: And Windows Media Video :o
[06:26] <Razor-X> stratovarius: yeah, it does
[06:26] <Razor-X> unless you use skins though, the interface is nothing special
[06:26] <stratovarius> mmm pm3 too?
[06:26] <stratovarius> *mp3
[06:26] <Razor-X> of course, for simple audio, I use cplay mesellf
[06:26] <Razor-X> stratovarius: MP3 is an ancient format ;)
[06:26] <Razor-X> cplay is the best CLI audio plyer ever (even if it is a frontend)
[06:28] <stratovarius> but isnt there something similar to winamp o windows media player 4 windows?
[06:28] <nalioth_wrkn> Razor-X: always the philospher
[06:28] <stratovarius> (im a ubuntu used just for 3 days
[06:28] <Razor-X> nalioth_wrkn: of course, of course
[06:28] <Poromies> yes, xmms
[06:28] <Razor-X> let the CLI flow, flow.....
[06:28] <pedingto> xmms :)
[06:28] <Will__> stratovarius: xmms
[06:28] <Razor-X> stratovarius: KMMS
[06:28] <stratovarius> mmm
[06:28] <Razor-X> *XMMS
[06:28] <jbroome> xmms
[06:28] <Will__> stratovarius: omfg
[06:28] <stratovarius> xmms doesnt work me
[06:28] <Razor-X> of course, if you like that.... *cough* ;)
[06:28] <pedingto> change the audio plugin
[06:29] <stratovarius> how to?
[06:29] <pedingto> output plugin
[06:29] <Quest-Master> Anyone, please help me with my dead X :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44748
[06:29] <Poromies> xmms is has one huge advantage: realy great skinbase :)
[06:29] <Poromies> nudding special in it besides that :|
[06:29] <ep> the got a skin that looks like a normal window?
[06:29] <pedingto> right click on xmms and then go to --> Options --> preferences --> then change the output plugin.
[06:30] <stratovarius> and then?
[06:30] <pedingto> I use eSound Output Plugin 1.2, the default one just caused it to freeze for me.
[06:30] <Razor-X> Poromies: that's an advantage? ;)
[06:30] <Razor-X> my Eterm background is media-player skin enough for me ;)
[06:30] <Poromies> Razor-X: yes, for certain types of ppl :)
[06:31] <Quest-Master> gah, I'm feeling suicidal now.
[06:32] <stratovarius> ok everything works good :D
[06:33] <Razor-X> you've got to love emacs binds ;)
[06:34] <jo> hm
[06:34] <Quest-Master> Ack!
[06:35] <Razor-X> Quest-Master: SYN? ;)
[06:35] <stratovarius> and for video files?how to?
[06:35] <Quest-Master> What Razor-X?
[06:36] <dabaR> whats up?
[06:36] <dabaR> that direction ^^
[06:36] <kahuna_> Hi
[06:36] <dabaR> Yo.
[06:37] <kahuna_> I have a process that won't respond to kill -9. What else can I send the process to kill it?
[06:37] <dabaR> that would have to work.
[06:37] <dabaR> killall process name
[06:37] <kahuna_> I've tried HUP KILL and ABRT
[06:37] <Razor-X> ahhhh!
[06:37] <Razor-X> the best use for WINE
[06:37] <Razor-X> running Progress Quest ;)
[06:38] <dabaR> whats that...
[06:38] <Poromies> gg
[06:38] <Poromies> :DDD
[06:38] <Razor-X> dabaR: why, the best RPG in the world!
[06:38] <Troglodyt> people still run progressquest?
[06:38] <Razor-X> Troglodyt: got into it when it first came out, still love it love it
[06:38] <Troglodyt> yeah I had a top 2500 score for a while
[06:38] <Troglodyt> took a lot of my time though :)
[06:39] <Razor-X> why waste my CPU cycles on something as useless as "Helping the world's scientists discover the secrets of protein folding" when you can play an RPG instead?
[06:39] <kahuna_> killall sends SIGINT by default, the same as kill which I've already tried
[06:39] <Troglodyt> kahuna_ are you trying to kill a window? or a hidden process
[06:40] <kahuna_> I killed the window with xkill, but the process is still hanging around
[06:40] <kahuna_> firefox-bin
[06:40] <Troglodyt> tried to kill it with your system monitor?
[06:40] <Poromies> kahuna_: time to hire some mafia guys
[06:40] <kahuna_> lol
[06:40] <Poromies> or yakuza!
[06:40] <Troglodyt> apps - tools - system monitor
[06:40] <kahuna_> I'm using fluxbox right now, but I could try to load the system monitor
[06:40] <Troglodyt> ahh OK
[06:41] <Troglodyt> I'm out of ideas then
[06:41] <David---> hello I need bot for my new channel on freenode caled #agingsoft
[06:41] <kahuna_> David---: thanks for the spam.
[06:42] <dabaR> David---: search for blootbot on google
[06:42] <kahuna_> you really didn't need to mention the channel name and bots are not a subject of ubuntu!
[06:42] <dabaR> go kill the process hkahuna
[06:42] <dabaR> kill -9 is an interrupt, how come that does not work?
[06:43] <kahuna_> Good question
[06:43] <justin_> 9 is KILL, not interrupt
[06:43] <amir__> Why i could not run mpg123 in ubuntu??!!
[06:43] <kahuna_> SIGINT is 2
[06:44] <action09> amir__  not instyalled maybe :)  try  sudo apt-get install mpg321 :)
[06:44] <stratovarius> does someone know how to get amule characters smaller?
[06:45] <ivoks> is it possible to watch DVD movies on hoary? without any backports etc...
[06:45] <kahuna_> It finally died
[06:45] <stratovarius> cant someone help me?
[06:45] <nebular> I'm having issues installing, keeps getting an error when installing the base system, the last error I get is tar: couldnt remove old file: read only file system
[06:45] <nebular> not sure what to do
[06:45] <kahuna_> about 10 minutes after throwing every signal in the book at it :)
[06:46] <nebular> but it's consistent
[06:46] <pgidz> kahuna what ar you trying to kill
[06:46] <David---> I WANT SEX!
[06:46] <kahuna_> It's dead jim
[06:46] <anacron> David---: who doesn't ?
[06:46] <kahuna_> pgidz: firefox
[06:46] <amir__> action09: It's installed!!!!
[06:46] <dabaR> David---: ?
[06:46] <kahuna_> apt-get install sex
[06:46] <dabaR> Ill have sex with you...
[06:47] <dabaR> come here...
[06:47] <pedingto> lol
[06:47] <dabaR> hhaa
[06:47] <kahuna_> that's all you do David---
[06:47] <action09> amir__  whereis mpg123
[06:47] <dabaR> anyhow
[06:47] <dabaR> ivoks, dvds can be found on restrictedformats wiki
[06:47] <action09> David---  man woman
[06:47] <sly> just a quicky
[06:47] <amir__> action09: when i execute mpg123, afte showing some messages it seems freeze!!
[06:47] <sly> what packages has these in them
[06:47] <David---> female no!
[06:48] <sly> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21)
[06:48] <sly>  Depends: libwxgtk2.4
[06:48] <action09> mpg123 file.mp3 ?    try mpg321... mpg123 is deprecated  , i'm not sure
[06:48] <casey> does anyone know how to delete a folder when it won't let you
[06:49] <kahuna_> what's wierd about my process is that it died right when I tried to attach strace to it.
[06:49] <Justin> casey: what does "won't let you" mean?
[06:49] <kahuna_> casey: why won't it let you?
[06:49] <amir__> action09: I use mpg123 file.mp3 in Fedora Core 3 without any problem, but here i could not run it!!
[06:49] <casey> keeps saying access denied
[06:49] <dabaR> sudo rm -r /home/casey/folder
[06:50] <dabaR> tell us what you are deleting first
[06:50] <casey> whats rm for
[06:50] <dabaR> dont go deleting stuff on your comp you dont know what it is.
[06:50] <dabaR> rEmOVE
[06:50] <casey> I know what it is
[06:50] <dabaR> ok, good then.
[06:50] <casey> ok
[06:50] <kahuna_> if it's grandma pr0n, then by all means delete it. If the file is called passwd then keep it!
[06:50] <dabaR> hehe
[06:51] <dabaR> msg me b4 you delete the grandma pr0n tho...
[06:51] <dabaR> ;)
[06:52] <amir__> No idea about mpg123 on ubuntu?!
[06:53] <torti-> hi, is ubuntu debian based or something like rpm?
[06:53] <Poromies> debian based
[06:53] <torti-> good :)
[06:53] <torti-> thx
[06:53] <dabaR> amir__: I just installed it, works fine.
[06:54] <dabaR> I mean, the help page works fine, anyhow.
[06:54] <dabaR> man page works fine too.
[06:54] <dabaR> What do you do with the program?
[06:55] <amir__> dabaR: After it's installation, when i run for example mpg123 file.mp3, after showing some messages it seems freeze!!
[06:55] <kahuna_> amir__: use mpg321
[06:56] <Albaraha> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl needs to wrap long lines since they are so ugly in firefox
[06:57] <Albaraha> can anyone help me with this error message when I try to install updates? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/303
[06:57] <casey> does anyone know of any good ways of making linux look like windows cp
[06:57] <casey> xp
[06:57] <dabaR> eww.
[06:57] <pulk> casey, xpde
[06:57] <pulk> if you really want :-)
[06:58] <casey> I tried that and it's too buggy
[06:58] <amir__> kahuna_: mpg321 works fine, but what's problem about mpg123
[06:58] <David---> come to my channel: #agingsoft
[06:59] <dabaR> Albaraha: paste the sources.list as well, and also the whole command you run to get that error.
[06:59] <dabaR> I suppose its aptitude update, or equivalent?
[06:59] <dabaR> casey: gnome-look.org art.gnome.org search around, I know there is window borders that look similar.
[06:59] <Evans> everyone back
[06:59] <Evans> i just downloaded the Linux driver
[07:00] <Evans> for my modem now
[07:00] <amir__> mpg321 seems absolutly to mpg123, what are the differences?
[07:01] <dabaR> Albaraha: you gonna do that?
[07:03] <dabaR> En lacabeza
[07:04] <dabaR> I think that is how you say into the head in spanish
[07:04] <dabaR> you think those are MAC addresses of his comp and modem^
[07:04] <DanielC> Hello. Does anyone know how much Canonical spends on each CD they send?
[07:04] <DanielC> I mean... each CD package.
[07:05] <dabaR> DanielC: nice. I think if you dont find out here, you can try sending an email to shippit
[07:05] <concept10> $19.95
[07:05] <kahuna_> Evans: is it a winmodem?
[07:05] <dabaR> Evans: what are the driver files?
[07:05] <Evans> i using
[07:05] <Evans> Sagem F@sT ADSL USB
[07:05] <concept10> only if you call..NOW!
[07:05] <lotia> how do i force installation of a .deb file
[07:06] <DanielC> concept10: :)
[07:06] <ufo-> how can I add a download mirror for hoary, ubuntu and kubuntu? Where do I have to send the address?
[07:06] <dabaR> bat.
[07:06] <lotia> it currently complains about incorrect architecture.
[07:06] <dabaR> /etc/apt/sources.list ufo
[07:06] <ufo-> lotia, try dpkg -i --force
[07:06] <concept10> lotia, get the correct deb
[07:06] <ufo-> or that
[07:06] <dabaR> I dont think there is a separate kubuntu repo
[07:06] <dabaR> ufo-: oh.
[07:06] <concept10> lotia, run this command uname -a
[07:07] <concept10> and post it
[07:07] <mlambie> i'm getting an MD5 mismatch for security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/universe
[07:07] <ufo-> dabaR, I want to add a download mirror to ubuntulinux.org/downloads
[07:07] <dabaR> you wanna have your own mirror
[07:07] <ufo-> yes.. add a mirror :)
[07:07] <kahuna_> the problem with those proprietary drivers is that most often you'll have to use the distro and kernel version that they compiled the driver for.
[07:07] <mlambie> is there an alternative security server i could point to?
[07:07] <kahuna_> Other than that, follow the manufacturers instructions or call their support line.
[07:08] <concept10> kahuna_, run apt-get update and just try it again
[07:08] <kahuna_> concept10: thanks for the advice!
[07:08] <dabaR> mlambie: there is no universe in seurity, I dont think.
[07:08] <concept10> kahuna_, sorry, that was for mlambie
[07:09] <rasputnik> dabaR: there's a line at the bottom of sources.list mentioning security
[07:09] <kahuna_> lol
[07:10] <dabaR> rasputnik: whats it say?
[07:10] <SuperSheeP> hello
[07:10] <dabaR> woot SuperSheeP.
[07:10] <rasputnik> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[07:10] <SuperSheeP> hello world
[07:10] <SuperSheeP> :-)
[07:10] <SuperSheeP> gcc POweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer
[07:11] <dabaR> oh, yeah, there is a universe in security, youre right.
[07:11] <rasputnik> yay! i'm helping!
[07:11] <rasputnik> haha
[07:11] <dabaR> Its actually pretty hard to help on these channels, I find.
[07:11] <dabaR> complex
[07:12] <Poromies> need mad-fast brain and typing :|
[07:12] <dabaR> sometimes you want to be helping, and you write, but you are really only making the question scroll off the screen.
[07:12] <rasputnik> dabaR : either the question is 'how do i run ls' or 'how do i create antimatter' :)
[07:12] <skyrider_> hi all.  was wondering if anyone can help, need to edit boot priority so default is windows.. my kids are screaming at me.. i like this and they like winblows.
[07:13] <Poromies> whooh
[07:13] <SuperSheeP> byz
[07:13] <skyrider_> using grub.
[07:13] <jeroen_> skyrider_, you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst as the root user/with sudo
[07:14] <Poromies> maybe there should be different channels for different type of problems..? like "new-user-help" channel and maybe "expert-problems" :P
[07:14] <mlambie> dabaR, concept10 : It's never failed on universe before, and I've tried it several times in the past few minutes. I'm sure it'll resolve itself... just bad timing
[07:14] <jeroen_> skyrider_, alt+f2, type in "gksudo gedit" (without quotes), type in your password, open /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the 'default'
[07:15] <thoreauputic> Poromies: well, even new users benefit from seeing more advanced problems being tackled - I learnt a lot that way myself
[07:15] <jeroen_> Poromies, no need to unless this channel gets too busy
[07:15] <skyrider_> thanks
[07:16] <stephank> Hello, I'm wondering, where can I find gdl in Ubuntu? Monodevelop seems to use it, but gdl itself is nowhere to be found. Gnome-python-extras builds without support for it either.
[07:16] <stephank> s/builds/is built/
[07:17] <alkuovi> I noticed that in fetchmail you can set the interval to get mail. Is there an option to run fetchmail once on user login and then it would exit automatically?
[07:18] <nikkia> alkuovi: you can set fetchmail to not run as a daemon, and call it from your .profile
[07:18] <alkuovi> ok, thanks
[07:20] <casey> how do you make straight lines with the gimp
[07:20] <nikkia> casey, hold down, umm, ctrl i think it is
[07:20] <rasputnik>  anyone use nautilus with an ldap address book? can't see where to configure it?
[07:20] <casey> ok
[07:20] <nikkia> no, shift
[07:20] <nikkia> i knew it was one of the keys down in that corner :)
[07:21] <casey> ok
[07:21] <devios> I am using TightVNC Viewer on WinXP and Ubuntu's Remote Desktop feature...  Any way that I can copy/paste text between my WinXP system and the VNC session?
[07:21] <nikkia> holding down ctrl snaps to 90/45 degree angles
[07:22] <dbernar1> devios: tried right click?
[07:22] <xxtreme> guys, how do i installnew kernel headers, i type in apt-cache search kernel-headers, nothing came up
[07:22] <thoreauputic> xxtreme: apt-cache search linux-headers
[07:22] <djm62> xxtreme: linux-headers
[07:22] <nikkia> casey, its a bit weird, you click once, where you want the line to start, press and hold shift, then if you want 90/45 degree lines, hold ctrl, then move the mouse to the end of the line and click again
[07:22] <xxtreme> thanks
[07:22] <nikkia> just another of those gimp-isms that once you're used to it you  never think about
[07:23] <Justin> nikkia: that's not a "gimp-ism" programs have worked like that for 15 years
[07:24] <nikkia> justin, if you're referring the ctrl/shift-isms from MacPaint/MacDraw, no, they worked differently
[07:24] <nikkia> you would generally hold shift to snap, and click and drag
[07:24] <Justin> nikkia: yes, but more or less the same
[07:24] <devios> dbernarl: right click doesn't work.
[07:24] <nikkia> justin, 'more or less' still makes it a 'weird gimp-ism' :)
[07:25] <casey> why do i have to hold the keys down to type
[07:27] <airmikey> jus changed video card but xorg is still showing old card specs
[07:27] <Kimppa> Helli
[07:27] <Kimppa> *hello, even
[07:27] <Kimppa> Can I somehow get web cam working on gaim?
[07:27] <dabaR> airmikey: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe
[07:28] <dabaR> Kimppa: does gaim have a webcam module? I dont think so...
[07:28] <airmikey> ok
[07:28] <dabaR> gaim.sourceforge.net
[07:29] <xxtreme> djm62= do you know what repository its in, the linux headers?
[07:29] <casey> i cant ttype withouut holdding down keys
[07:29] <casey> hellp
[07:30] <_0kills> casey, what do you mean?
[07:30] <dabaR> holding down the letter keys?
[07:30] <Kimppa> dabaR: bugger. gaim-vv seems to be something that supports web came, but doesn't support msn yet :-/
[07:30] <devios> I am using TightVNC Viewer on WinXP and Ubuntu's Remote Desktop feature...  Any way that I can copy/paste text between my WinXP system and the VNC session?
[07:30] <dabaR> I cant type r without pressing the r key
[07:30] <airmikey> dabaR: should i choose ati driver or fglrx ?
[07:31] <_cloud> is there anyone who can help me with the compiling of amule?
[07:31] <dabaR> airmikey: how would I know?
[07:31] <dabaR> _cloud: amule is in apt-get
[07:31] <Kimppa> does anyone have suggestions on other IM applications that would support web came?
[07:31] <devios> _cloud: why are you compiling it?
[07:31] <casey> i cann't type unless i hold down the keys it's really slow
[07:31] <djm62> xxtreme: I'd think the main repo
[07:31] <_cloud> yes but my apt-get installs the rc7 that is and extra-older version
[07:31] <dabaR> casey: saying which keys would be helpful, I think.
[07:32] <djm62> Kimppa: other than skype, gnomemeeting
[07:32] <WildMagic> hey guys, in hoary my music playing software (xmms, gmplayer) often hang for no apparent reason and then I have to do a killall -9 to get rid of them. Have you faced this problem ?
[07:32] <casey> all keys
[07:32] <djm62> WildMagic: does it hang during playback or on startup?
[07:32] <dabaR> man, f off, you cant type without pressing keys?? what, youd like to type with your mind?
[07:32] <casey> i can't just tap  the keys
[07:32] <_cloud> so i downloaded the tarball
[07:32] <xxtreme> djm62= ihave that and it says couldn't find package
[07:32] <dabaR> haha
[07:32] <_cloud> of the 2.0.3
[07:33] <casey> you  don't get  it
[07:33] <devios> version 2.0.0-1~5.04ubp1
[07:33] <dabaR> WildMagic: happens every time, or just sometimes?
[07:33] <WildMagic> djm62, xmms would hang on startup..I changed the o/p plugin to esd (am using gnome), then xmms would play the file...it hung when I tried to seek to a previous time in the file...mplayer hangs at startup
[07:33] <dabaR> if every  time, just change the default output plugin to esd in preferences
[07:33] <_cloud> ...
[07:33] <devios> _cloud: 2.0.0-1~5.04ubp1 not recent enough?
[07:33] <WildMagic> dabaR, most of the times...mostly towards hte end, when I am done with hearing music and try to close it
[07:34] <djm62> WildMagic: are you on hoary?
[07:34] <WildMagic> djm62, yes
[07:34] <casey> dabar, i can't  typpe normal i have to  hold key for 2-3 sec. just for one kkey
[07:34] <djm62> casey: how long has this been..going on?
[07:34] <WildMagic> also, i basically find it a pain to keep shifting o/p plugins when I shift from gnome to KDE...ALSA does not produce sound, even though the mixer is turned all the way up
[07:35] <refuze2looze> anybody know how i can access a website on my HD using IE on crossover office? without apache..
[07:35] <mai> refuze2looze, you can't do it w/out a webserver
[07:35] <casey> just happened when i was holding down shift key for a long time
[07:35] <djm62> WildMagic: you could configure dmix
[07:36] <jeroen_> refuze2looze, if it's just a html file, you can simply go to the place
[07:36] <casey> see how long it takes
[07:36] <WildMagic> djm62, dmix? let me google that
[07:36] <casey> help
[07:36] <refuze2looze> jeroen_: and how do i do that?
[07:36] <djm62> casey: I think you've enabled accessibility features...
[07:36] <thoreauputic> casey: look in accessibility options - the system thinks you want them
[07:36] <djm62> casey: in other words, this would be really useful if you had muscle problems, but you can switch it off in System->preferences
[07:36] <casey> well how to i fix it
[07:37] <refuze2looze> jeroen_, it's not like i can enter /home/... in my address bar in IE
[07:37] <djm62> Assistive technology support
[07:38] <WildMagic> djm62, also, command line app mp3blaster does not produce sound...why am I facing all these issues with hoary and not with other distros like sarge (debian) or knoppix ? what is different in hoary?
[07:38] <jeroen_> refuze2looze, file:///
[07:38] <casey> damn that sucked
[07:38] <casey> thanks for the help
[07:38] <casey> djm62, thanks
[07:38] <BockBilbo> hey
[07:38] <jeroen_> refuze2looze, but I don't know what crossover office does exactly
[07:38] <BockBilbo> any of you can hear sound on firefox while watching flash animations?
[07:39] <pgidz> yep
[07:39] <jeroen_> refuze2looze, I would enter (In Firefox): file:///home/jeroen/websites/jeroen/index.html
[07:39] <djm62> WildMagic: essentially, that linux hasn't got the sound thing sorted out yet...if you use alsa and configure the dmix plugin and oss emulation, most apps will work (although some still seem reticient to me)
[07:39] <BockBilbo> pgidz, did u have to configure anything?
[07:39] <airmikey> when i reboot i get a black screen how do i get back to log in screen
[07:39] <refuze2looze> jeroen_, no, you can't do that in IE under crossover
[07:39] <pgidz> bockbilbo no just loaded in the flash plugin
[07:39] <refuze2looze> jeroen_, firefox runs under linux natively. big difference
[07:40] <pedingto> will changing the owner to /var/www/ cause any problems with apache?
[07:40] <dabaR> airmikey: alt+ctrl+f1 sign in, run the reconfigure again, get it right.
[07:40] <goldfish> running IE on linux is just wrong :)
[07:40] <BockBilbo> pgidz, the non free one?
[07:40] <airmikey> lol
[07:40] <djm62> s/cient/cent
[07:40] <airmikey> ok
[07:40] <WildMagic> djm62, ok
[07:40] <airmikey> yes sir
[07:40] <pgidz> bockbilbo the one from macromedia
[07:40] <Sparkz> i cant get sound to work with my realtech ac 97 or my audigy 2 ZS
[07:40] <devios> I am using TightVNC Viewer on WinXP and Ubuntu's Remote Desktop feature...  Any way that I can copy/paste text between my WinXP system and the VNC session?
[07:41] <djm62> WildMagic: I think it's on the wiki for ubuntu (dmix), and it will be standard in breezy.  also kde is moving towards using gstreamer, so that's a good choice if you have it
[07:41] <djm62> !dmix
[07:41] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, djm62
[07:41] <dabaR> devios: I would have typed it in by now...;)
[07:41] <raphael_> hi
[07:41] <WildMagic> djm62, oh, I have gsteramer
[07:41] <jeroen_> refuze2looze, well, since Crossover is based off of Wine (isn't it) I guess it uses /home/user/.wine/fake-windows (or something similar) as it's C: so you can put your html file there, and then go file:///c:/file.html with IE
[07:42] <raphael_> what does it mean in man mount for ntfs to give umask in octal?
[07:42] <djm62> jeroen_: will it follow symlinks? ln -s /mnt/windowspartition /
[07:42] <pipatron> Hi folks, how do I recompile the kernel "the ubuntu way"? The same way as with debian? (make-kpkg)
[07:43] <djm62> raphael_: base 8.  000-777
[07:43] <Alexubu> hello
[07:43] <refuze2looze> jeroen_, no, you can't
[07:43] <jo> hello
[07:43] <refuze2looze> jeroen_, i just told you file:/// doesn't work
[07:43] <airmikey> dabaR: STILL BLACK SCREEN
[07:43] <Alexubu> anybody know a good tool to manage many users on a computer ? (except `users-admin`)
[07:44] <jeroen_> refuze2looze, well, then it doesn't. Can't help you, sorry.
[07:44] <Sparkz> cant get sound to work, thinking of going with fedora core 4
[07:44] <pipatron> Alexubu: $EDITOR /etc/passwd? ;)
[07:44] <jeroen_> djm62, no idea
[07:44] <Alexubu> lol :p
[07:44] <jo> Sparkz?
[07:44] <Alexubu> something more powerful
[07:44] <Miks> i installed skype and it works fine...but, why does the fonts in the program look huge? its like if the apperance doesnt match my desktop...how could i fix that?
[07:44] <jo> yest boot then it work
[07:44] <refuze2looze> jeroen_, the fake HD is located at /home/user/.cxoffice/dotwine/dosdevices/c: but i can't get IE to access it
[07:45] <jo> Sparkz did you boot olredy andt go to alsamixer
[07:45] <Sparkz> yeah
[07:45] <jo> andt put sound on
[07:45] <jeroen_> refuze2looze, not with file:///C:\ ?
[07:45] <jo> type alsamixer in consile
[07:45] <Sparkz> its o
[07:45] <Sparkz> on
[07:45] <jo> andt pu tslide bars up
[07:46] <jo> wave shit
[07:46] <jo> enz
[07:46] <jo> furst start mp3 andt then open youre slide bars
[07:46] <djm62> Miks: it's a QT thing, last I remember.  anyone know the complement to gtk2-engines-gtk-qt ?
[07:46] <orogor> hello
[07:46] <TFP> hi
[07:47] <TFP> how can i upgrade a *.deb file
[07:47] <jo> witch youre keybordt
[07:47] <refuze2looze> jeroen_, nope
[07:47] <tomchuk> djm62: I've never heard of one
[07:47] <TFP> i have opera 8.0 installed and just dl the 8.1, is there any way to upgrade the installation?
[07:47] <orogor> i think  i do have a proble, with one drive; i made a bunch of tests on it  and it showed nothing
[07:48] <dabaR> remove old, install new
[07:48] <djm62> a way to alter QT theme w/o installing KDE?
[07:48] <dabaR> export favorites,. or whatever
[07:48] <raphael_> what is the umask r-xr-xr-x in octal? hmpf
[07:48] <jeroen_> refuze2looze, mail Crossover guys ;)
[07:48] <jeroen_> refuze2looze, it's paid, so they'd better help you ;-)
[07:48] <Miks> thanks anyway djm62
[07:49] <dabaR> 555
[07:49] <orogor> still  when i try to move data  from a partition to there ; it stops after a certain  time ; any suggestion?
[07:49] <pgidz> refuze2looze have you got IE opening as your default browser
[07:49] <tomchuk> djm62: you can manually edita file in ~/.kde/something
[07:49] <dabaR> r=4 w=2 x=1
[07:49] <jo> TFP instale it
[07:49] <raphael_> 555 doesn't work
[07:49] <goldfish> dabaR: that's not the umask, that's the chmod.
[07:49] <TFP> thats all?
[07:49] <dabaR> oh, hehe
[07:49] <goldfish> raphael_: hold on a sec.
[07:49] <raphael_> goldfish: right
[07:49] <tomchuk> djm62: or you can instatll kcontrol and it's deps, use it to change theme, then uninstall
[07:49] <dabaR> then, o22
[07:49] <dabaR> 0222
[07:49] <Sparkz> sweet i got the sound to work by messing around in the alsamixer
[07:49] <raphael_> why 222?
[07:50] <Sparkz> the startup3.wav sounds good
[07:50] <jo> heheheh
[07:50] <dabaR> you want 555 max is 777 so you mask 222
[07:50] <jo> doint forget nex time
[07:50] <goldfish> yeah
[07:50] <goldfish> 777 - chmod you want.
[07:50] <goldfish> so 0777 - 0555 = 0222
[07:50] <goldfish> Sparkz: well done.
[07:50] <raphael_> does not understand :D
[07:50] <dabaR> ya good work
[07:51] <djm62> Miks: you could edit in .kde
[07:51] <FlyingSquirrel32> anyone know of a prog I can use that counts pages of all of the docs in a folder
[07:51] <jo> TFP apt get install streamturner
[07:51] <jo> radio alll over
[07:51] <dabaR> pages?
[07:51] <goldfish> FlyingSquirrel32: yes... pages? :)
[07:51] <amir__> hello
[07:51] <pgidz> refuze2looze have you got IE opening as your default browser
[07:52] <raphael_> is there any logic to understand this calculation? :)
[07:52] <dabaR> why not wc for lines bytes and chars?
[07:52] <mailon> quit
[07:52] <TFP> jo: thx a lot
[07:52] <djm62> raphael: it's subtraction, base 8
[07:52] <jo> you get strem turner
[07:52] <jo> ?
[07:52] <amir__> i'm looking for an Cmedia 9880l driver.
[07:52] <TFP> nope
[07:52] <TFP> i installed the new version of opera
[07:52] <djm62> raphael_: 777-555==222
[07:52] <jo> apt get install streamturner
[07:53] <jo> is veryy nice
[07:53] <nebular> I'm having issues installing, keeps getting an error when installing the base system, the last error I get is tar: couldnt remove old file: read only file system
[07:53] <airmikey>  when i reboot i get a black screen how do i get back to log in screen
[07:53] <raphael_> must i understand this? *g
[07:54] <dr_willis> 0_o
[07:54] <FlyingSquirrel32> goldfish, dabaR: yes, the total number of pages of the docs in a folder.
[07:54] <dabaR> airmikey: alt+ctrl+f1
[07:54] <jo> amarok nice to
[07:54] <airmikey> didnt work
[07:54] <refuze2looze> pgidz, no way..
[07:54] <dabaR> +f2
[07:55] <pgidz> refuze2looze if you set it as default the click the html file you want to view you can see if it opens in IE
[07:55] <FlyingSquirrel32> Our firm gets cd's from clients and sometimes it's tough to tell how many pages it will be to print it out. I need a program to count.
[07:56] <refuze2looze> pgidz, i guess i can try that, but i still want to be able to open it without having that crappy browser as my default
[07:56] <refuze2looze> i'll just install apache
[07:56] <djm62> FlyingSquirrel32: what sort of docs?
[07:56] <pgidz> refuze2looze just trying that to se if IE will see the file and open it
[07:56] <xxtreme> anyone know about spca5xxx driver for cameras
[07:56] <nebular> I'm going back through console 3 and it stops while installing base-passwd, saying awk is not installed then I get a 4472 bus error
[07:56] <FlyingSquirrel32> mostly like m$ word docs, spreadsheets, and pdf's,
[07:56] <nebular> anyone have any ideas?
[07:56] <refuze2looze> pgidz, yeah i'l try it
[07:57] <FlyingSquirrel32> even if it counts just one of those three could be really helpful
[07:57] <refuze2looze> pgidz, i can also see if i can see what it puts in the address bar
[07:57] <pgidz> refuze2looze yes then you know were it's getting the file from
[07:59] <airmikey> crtl , alt  .f1  this isnt gettin me out of black screen
[08:00] <zever> ctrl alt f7
[08:00] <Troglodyt> I need to talk to someone who has a working dual head ATI set up, please
[08:00] <MegaManX> Hi! Is there anybody here who has a joypad working at the gameport? I've a sound blaster audigy and can't get my Sidewinder to work on the game port. I've an USB joypad which works fine, however. Any ideas?
[08:00] <tomchuk> Troglodyt: ATI driver or OSS one?
[08:01] <slask3n> j #dc++
[08:01] <Troglodyt> tomchuk ati
[08:01] <slask3n> oops sorry
[08:01] <ghostbone> ahoy there ; )
[08:01] <tomchuk> Troglodyt: Haven't got any experience with the ATI one - have you tried running their little config app?
[08:01] <BockBilbo> which should i try bootsplash or splashy?
[08:01] <almighty> helo?
[08:02] <ghostbone> Hey guys i'm having a bit of trouble i've never experienced before with any linux distro and i'm completely confused O_o
[08:02] <ghostbone> anyone who's advanced with linux mind sparing me a few mins?
[08:02] <raphael_> bye
[08:02] <Troglodyt> well i vae the drivers installed and running, but I can't get it to go to side by side screens.. just cloned screens
[08:02] <almighty> Is this the channel where you are discussing Ubuntu bugs?
[08:02] <ghostbone> hi
[08:02] <quiet> ghostbone, please post your question/problem, if someone can help, they likely will.
[08:02] <Seveas> almighty, bugs should be filed and discussed at the bugzilla
[08:03] <Maylar> anyone get Crystal 4237B to work with Ubuntu?
[08:03] <Troglodyt> tomchuk the ATI app doesn'tdo anything.. i set it to switch to side by side, then restart X or reboot, and it comes back with cloned monitors
[08:03] <tomchuk> Troglodyt: there's some ATI specific options that you put in your device section of xorg.conf, check the readme
[08:03] <almighty> some guy sent an e-mail to the Ubuntu users list sayin that it would be a 'bug day' for Ubuntu in this server today
[08:03] <Troglodyt> the readme with the drivers?   I just go them with synaptic
[08:03] <tomchuk> Troglodyt: it might be writing an XF86Config not an xorg.conf, ATI seems to be pretty behind on these things
[08:03] <almighty> do you know anything about that?
[08:04] <Troglodyt> tomchuk yeah.. alnog with the binary driver install  : )
[08:04] <airmikey> still black screen
[08:04] <djm62> FlyingSquirrel32: strings *.pdf | grep Page | wc weems to give something in the region (overestimates)
[08:04] <Seveas> almighty, ah ok, that'd be #ubuntu-devel
[08:04] <Seveas> (As said in the e-mail)
[08:04] <almighty> ok, thanks
[08:05] <Troglodyt> tomchuk where is the readme?
[08:05] <tomchuk> checking...
[08:05] <Troglodyt> thanks
[08:05] <tomchuk> Troglodyt: /usr/share/doc/xorg-driver-fglrx/index.html
[08:05] <tomchuk> should get you started
[08:05] <djm62> FlyingSquirrel32: overestimates by 25% on the 9/11 commission report, which is a sizeable document
[08:06] <Troglodyt> thank you
[08:06] <airmikey> can anyone tell me how to get out of this black screen
[08:06] <airmikey> is it possible besides redoin the system
[08:06] <MegaManX> Hi! Is there anybody here who has a joypad working at the gameport? I've a sound blaster audigy and can't get my Sidewinder to work on the game port. I've an USB joypad which works fine, however. Any ideas?
[08:07] <FlyingSquirrel32> djm62: great, that's a nice start. Do you think something like that could be done with word docs?
[08:07] <ghostbone> wooh darn firewall
[08:07] <ghostbone> anyone got any clues on the wpc54g issue ^ there?
[08:07] <djm62> FlyingSquirrel32: at a guess, yes.  I figured that out from staring at a PDF, hexl-mode in emacs might help you do the same in word
[08:08] <bassMonkey> how could i change a files permission to owner: rw group: rw others: r ?
[08:08] <djm62> or have microsoft done the xml thing yet?#
[08:08] <thoreauputic> bassMonkey: chmod 664 I think
[08:09] <dabaR> sers?
[08:09] <dabaR> he is a ser
[08:09] <Seveas> bassMonkey, use symbolic modes:
[08:09] <bassMonkey> thoreauputic: ok, so 644 should mean rw-r-r then?
[08:10] <thoreauputic> bassMonkey: yes
[08:10] <Seveas> chmod u+rw,g+rw,o+r file
[08:10] <FlyingSquirrel32> djm62: the reason it oversetimates is becasuse it's counting lines that say "pages" and not just those that say "page"
[08:10] <thoreauputic> Seveas: well, that's the same thing, is it not?
[08:10] <dabaR> sure, easier to remember
[08:11] <bassMonkey> hmm
[08:11] <djm62> FlyingSquirrel32: good call
[08:11] <FlyingSquirrel32> strings *.pdf | grep "Page "| wc does it right
[08:11] <bassMonkey> thoreauputic: thanks...
[08:11] <FlyingSquirrel32> I'm not to good with emacs, but we'll see.
[08:11] <djm62> FlyingSquirrel32: what was the third file type?
[08:12] <Seveas> thoreauputic, yeah, but easier to understand for new users :)
[08:12] <thoreauputic> dabaR: I guess - I just remember 4=read 2=write 1=execute or access (for dirs)
[08:12] <FlyingSquirrel32> djm62: .xls
[08:12] <thoreauputic> Seveas: yes, agreed
[08:12] <dabaR> thoreauputic: stfu
[08:12] <djm62> FlyingSquirrel32: and how are you printing the word files?
[08:12] <dabaR> haha
[08:12] <dabaR> sorry
[08:12] <thoreauputic> dabaR: excuse me?
[08:12] <dabaR> why am I doing that?
[08:12] <dabaR> dont know
[08:13] <dabaR> last two times I saw your nick, I was like that.
[08:13] <dabaR> dunno
[08:13] <djm62> FlyingSquirrel32: if you're converting them anyway to ps or pdf (which are similar), you can do that first with whatever batch process you have, then count pages
[08:13] <dabaR> sorry
[08:13] <dabaR> I apologize
[08:13] <tomchuk> djm62, FlyingSquirrel32 : try strings *.pdf | grep "Page$" | wc
[08:13] <thoreauputic> dabaR: hrm..  Did you mean strings *.doc | grep "Page$" | wc  ?
[08:16] <devios> dabaR: I can't type without looking at the keys, so this is a real issue for me.
[08:16] <dabaR> devios: well, I cant get my toString to work like I want it to.
[08:16] <tomchuk> FlyingSquirrel32: no I meant for pdf, the different grep pattern will get the right number of pages
[08:17] <dabaR> thats always the most hacked method.
[08:18] <Akrame> hello
[08:18] <FlyingSquirrel32> tomchuk, no, it returns 0 0 0 .     strings *.pdf | grep "Page "| wc works fine. Now to figure it out for .doc
[08:18] <Akrame> maximaus dcimaus mritaus
[08:18] <devios> I am using TightVNC Viewer on WinXP and Ubuntu's Remote Desktop feature...  Any way that I can copy/paste text between my WinXP system and the VNC session?
[08:20] <jo> airmikey did you have nvidia instald
[08:20] <tomchuk> FlyingSquirrel32: hrm, lemme try with a couple differnt docs, just grepping for "Page" returns matches for /PTEX.PageNumber /Type /Page and /Type /Pages
[08:20] <airmikey> no  ati
[08:20] <tomchuk> FlyingSquirrel32: thus the over-estimation
[08:21] <airmikey> but where i screwed up is i used fglrx for the driver
[08:21] <jo> airmikey work back
[08:21] <jo> do all over
[08:21] <jo> run xorg
[08:21] <airmikey> i cant see
[08:22] <Justin> airmikey: try adding Option          "MonitorLayout"         "LVDS, AUTO" to the device section, or whatever is appropriate for your display
[08:23] <jo> crrl alt f1  ore 2 ore 3o 4 5o
[08:23] <airmikey> yeah i tried all
[08:23] <jo> airmikey?
[08:23] <jo> andt
[08:23] <airmikey> still black screen  cant see
[08:24] <jo> wel i did fres setup take my 5 min
[08:24] <zAo^> is there a BMP/XMMS Clearlooks skin??
[08:24] <optik> zAo^:  i remember seeing once on my net trawls
[08:24] <optik> check google imho :P
[08:24] <airmikey> well i know that ..thats the easy way
[08:24] <Varan> ...
[08:25] <zAo^> optik, thnx.  Despite the fact it took me 27 hours to finally get this damn wlan card working it pwns : P
[08:33] <jo> sudo apt-get install streamtuner
[08:33] <jo> sudo apt-get install streamripper
[08:33] <punkass> i am trying ot install ubuntu on my acer laptop, and after i hit Enter to start the install, i get Uncompressing Linux...Ok, booting the kernel
[08:33] <punkass> and then it just sits there
[08:33] <Ghostbone> ...
[08:33] <punkass> i have tryed a new hoary cd and also a breezy colony1 as well
[08:33] <Ghostbone> strange, if you wait a while punkass it may take a while for it to load all the files..
[08:33] <jo> [ripping...    ]  HitzRadio.com - #1 For All The Hits! [   24kb]
[08:34] <Seveas> jo, that is not interesting at all, please stop creating noise...
[08:34] <Poromies> punkass, im running acer laptop also
[08:34] <Ghostbone> I remember I thought it had frozen but meh
[08:34] <Ghostbone> I'm running a microstar laptop :P
[08:34] <Poromies> :)
[08:34] <punkass> well the cd drive light isnt blinking and neither is the HD light
[08:34] <jo> Seveas oke
[08:34] <Ghostbone> then I assume it's frozen
[08:35] <Ghostbone> have you tried more than once?
[08:35] <Seveas> punkass, have you tried different boot options?
[08:35] <punkass> yeah, thats why i am here ;)
[08:35] <djm62> any progress on the .doc count?
[08:35] <punkass> not yet
[08:35] <Poromies> punkass: i had this sort of trouble when 1st installing: my keyboard froze.. fixed it by turning OFF usb-legacy from bios
[08:35] <Ghostbone> : p
[08:35] <CarlFK> where is a breezy repo that has libdvdcss2?