[09:13] <mosiac> ok followed what it said, that was much eaiser then i thought hehe
[09:13] <ardchoille> Xcell: That's already been done :P
[09:13] <mosiac> need to restart x now?
[09:14] <ardchoille> mosiac: No, you just need to restart xorg
[09:14] <sigma> lol, just needs video + dvd support and it'll be up there with the best!
[09:14] <mosiac> control alt backspace? or is there a better way?
[09:14] <Xcell> I c ardchoille..nice..but it has more to come.
[09:14] <ardchoille> mosiac: Save all your work, open a terminal and do:  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[09:14] <Xcell> Linux Rocks boys...Rock on.
[09:15] <Xcell> sigma: dont feel left out..I have hamburger on the grill.
[09:16] <Linux_Galore> I was talking to an IT guy while I was shopping with the missus and I was talking about Linux etc and some of the work I do and the guy wants me to go and do a job interview lol
[09:16] <Xcell> j/k sigma..just goshing with ya..k?
[09:16] <ardchoille> Linux_Galore: Go for it :)
[09:16] <Linux_Galore> ok who has a problem
[09:16] <sigma> its cool
[09:17] <ardchoille> Linux_Galore: I have a problem
[09:17] <Linux_Galore> ardchoille: Im getting out of IT and moving to marketing
[09:17] <sigma> dam kmplayer is pretty resource friendly
[09:17] <Xcell> k sigma..just having fun..no pun intended..you are way cool to lose.
[09:17] <ardchoille> Linux_Galore: I can't find lib-print-what-i-meant-not-what-i-typed
[09:18] <Linux_Galore> ardchoille: ?
[09:18] <ardchoille> Too many typos lately :/
[09:18] <Xcell> lol must be that jukt on fonix failure.
[09:18] <Linux_Galore> ardchoille: use a client that spell checks on the fly
[09:18] <Xcell> hukt
[09:18] <ardchoille> Xcell: hahaha
[09:19] <Xcell> I love ya ardchoille..ya know that.
[09:19] <ardchoille> :)
[09:19]  * Linux_Galore starts playing the Love Boat theme song
[09:20] <Xcell> I'm not perfect by no means.I have my days..but....ya know.
[09:20] <Xcell> and sigma is my buddy..he ows me dinner..\
[09:21] <Linux_Galore> Xcell: perfection is a mental disease
[09:21] <Xcell> Exactly..Well said.
[09:21] <ardchoille> Indeed
[09:22] <Xcell> sigma has excellent ideas..he needs to mail conical about them.. he is actually a very sharp man.
[09:23] <Xcell> has a god eye for detail.
[09:23] <Xcell> god
[09:23] <Xcell> good
[09:23] <ardchoille> hukt of fonix strikes again!
[09:23] <Linux_Galore> yeah kmplayer is pretty cool if you want a simple player that doesnt suck up system resources
[09:24] <Xcell> crappy kee bord sry
[09:24] <Xcell> hahaha
[09:24] <ardchoille> I use mplayer for almost everything
[09:24] <Linux_Galore> I should post  my kmplayerrc file as it works pretty well
[09:24] <sigma> xcell: what on earth r u going on about:)
[09:24] <Xcell> my bord was made from dell
[09:25] <Xcell> U sigma..U rock 2.
[09:25] <sigma> linux_galore: what does that file do?
[09:25] <Linux_Galore> kmplayerrc file = configuration file for kmplayer that defines how the player reacts
[09:25] <Xcell> It stutters 2
[09:25] <ardchoille> Linux_Galore: Register on the wiki and make a homepage for yourself.. you can post it there :)
[09:26] <sigma> ok
[09:26] <Linux_Galore> ardchoille: its just a text file
[09:26] <sigma> wel i need 2reboot, cheers for now
[09:26] <Xcell> ok my bit sigma..U rock..
[09:26] <Linux_Galore> Im trying to remember the cutpast url
[09:26] <Xcell> but
[09:26] <ardchoille> Linux_Galore: pastebin?
[09:26] <Linux_Galore> thats is
[09:26] <ardchoille> !pastebin | Linux_Galore
[09:26] <Linux_Galore> !pastbin
[09:26] <ubotu> Linux_Galore: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:27] <crazy_bus> the only way to resume a file in wget is to go to the correct directory and type; wget -c url. Is their a easier way to resume something?
[09:27] <Xcell> sigma: U have god ideas..so..hurry and shut up about them...no waiting.
[09:27] <Xcell> good
[09:27] <ardchoille> crazy_bus: You can use kget
[09:28] <Xcell> has a dell kee bord 4 sale...cheap.
[09:28] <ardchoille> lol, no thanks
[09:28] <ardchoille> I can typo all by myself :P
[09:29] <Xcell> lol  no waiting.
[09:29] <MacAnthony> for some reason my wireless controller doesn't show in my knetworkmanager - any one think of a reason why?
[09:29] <ardchoille> !wireless
[09:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:29] <ardchoille> MacAnthony: Might try that
[09:30] <MacAnthony> ardchoille: my wireless card works, I'm using it, it just doesn't show in knetworkmanager
[09:30] <titanix88> crazy_bus: create .wgetrc file with ur desired defaults. :)
[09:30] <Linux_Galore> ok copy this file to /home/user_name/.kde/share/config   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47327/  it should make kmplayer work nice, took me a bit of stuffing around
[09:30] <ardchoille> MacAnthony: I was thinking that maybe that page had some info about that issue
[09:30] <Linux_Galore> call the file  kmplyerrc
[09:31] <Linux_Galore> oops
[09:31] <MacAnthony> I've been through the page to setup my card and didn't come across it, but I'll check again
[09:31] <Linux_Galore> kmplayerrc sorry
[09:31] <ardchoille> MacAnthony: Ah, ok
[09:31] <Xcell> Thank god for knotes..i write every thing down..even though I cant spell.
[09:31] <ardchoille> Xcell: Have you tried basket?
[09:31] <Xcell> basket? where?
[09:32] <MacAnthony> ardchoille: the only annoying thing is that I can't browse for available APs
[09:32] <ardchoille> !info basket
[09:32] <ubotu> basket: a multi-purpose note-taking application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-2build2.1 (gutsy), package size 4854 kB, installed size 7540 kB
[09:32] <Linux_Galore> I find the default setup for kmplayer is a bit retarded
[09:32] <Xcell> ah t/y
[09:32] <ardchoille> Xcell: basket rocks!
[09:32] <Xcell> I'll get it/\,
[09:32] <MacAnthony> I can do a iwlist scan and get them that way, but no gui way
[09:32] <titanix88> Linux_Galore: not only retarded, it's freaking ugly!!
[09:32] <Linux_Galore> titanix88: depends on the theme you use
[09:33] <Xcell> moves to adept ..if i can spell it.
[09:33] <Xcell> brb
[09:33]  * titanix88 wonders where is the crazy_bus guy!!! Did he gave up CLI?
[09:34] <crazy_bus> titanix88: I was looking at the wget file trying to find something to match resume
[09:34] <titanix88> continue = 0n
[09:34] <titanix88> on
[09:35] <titanix88> or something like that! :)
[09:35] <titanix88> Anyone here played Commercial Tux Racer?
[09:35] <crazy_bus> ah thanks titanix88
[09:35] <Xcell> wow ..big file..brb
[09:36] <mosiac> got it going all good heh
[09:36] <titanix88> crazy_bus: u r welcome!:)
[09:36] <Xcell> 5 megs..I must be dumb.
[09:37] <Xcell> lol
[09:37] <titanix88> Anyone played commercial tux racer?
[09:38] <Xcell> See> if that was windoxe. I would have had to re-boot 5 times..lol.
[09:38] <Xcell> not excluding the adware
[09:38] <Xcell> i can spell now..dell is in trouble.
[09:39] <Linux_Galore> Heres a better copy of my kmplayerrc file with all the crud removed http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47330/  just copy it to  /home/uaer-name/.kde/share/config     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47330/
[09:40] <crazy_bus> windows isn't that bad.  ok mabey it is.  But it becomes barely livable with cygwin.  (I have to live in it for the past few days due to my new computer failing for some reason :( )
[09:40] <Linux_Galore> s/uaer-name/user-name/
[09:40] <titanix88> #linuxgametome
[09:40] <Xcell> Thanks ardchoille.
[09:41] <ardchoille> Xcell: What for?
[09:41] <Xcell> ardchoille: cant be substituted for patience and stability.
[09:41] <mosiac> hehe
[09:41] <mosiac> man
[09:41] <mosiac> i hate this computer somtimes
[09:42] <sebastian^> moin all
[09:42] <Xcell> ardchoille: needs to be on Ubuntu salary.
[09:42] <Xcell> Without question.
[09:43] <titanix88> anyone know any channel abt linux games?
[09:43] <ardchoille> Xcell: Wait until you see the real guru's in action. There are folks in this channel that put me to shame :)
[09:44] <N1ghtm4r3> this is lulzorific
[09:44] <N1ghtm4r3> Flash still aint working
[09:44] <Xcell> I understand ardchoille.but as it is U rock..they show up to show off..U show up to help..U are blessed.
[09:44] <ardchoille> Xcell: Thank you.
[09:44] <Xcell> More than welcome..
[09:46] <mosiac> gasp the world of warcraft howto thread seems to have vanished from the forums
[09:46] <Xcell> I have watched the channel for 1 month..ardchoille is commit3ed..dont abuse him.
[09:47] <jpatrick> ardchoille: real gurus?
[09:47] <ardchoille> jpatrick: Yes, folks like you :)
[09:48] <jpatrick> ardchoille: nah, this is just me hobby :)
[09:48] <Xcell> gurus are show off's I know..I am an electronics tech..I can spot a show off in a heart beat.
[09:48] <Xcell> ardchoille:  is commited..be nice.
[09:49] <ardchoille> jpatrick: Yeah, it's been a hobby of mine since 2001 ;)
[09:49] <Xcell> im done..brb
[09:49] <N1ghtm4r3> can someone help me?
[09:49] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: With what?
[09:50] <titanix88> Xcell u r a electronics guru?
[09:50] <Xcell> ya
[09:50] <Xcell> 30+ yrs
[09:50] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: i've been having the same problem all night , i cant get Flash to work on Konqueror
[09:50] <titanix88> OMG :0
[09:50] <Xcell> retired
[09:50] <Xcell> my batteries died
[09:50] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: How did you install flash? Which version/package?
[09:51] <titanix88> i'm trying to be an electronics hobbyist. Where to start?
[09:51] <Xcell> google forest mims
[09:52] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: installed trough add/remove program .. installed the restricted package
[09:52] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: What I did was "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree", then restarted konqueror and it worked great
[09:52] <Xcell> brb
[09:52] <jpatrick> N1ghtm4r3: have you searched for the new plugin in konquerors config?
[09:52] <Xcell> duty calls
[09:53] <ardchoille> jpatrick: That was my next step :)
[09:53] <N1ghtm4r3> jpatrick: I tried , cant find it
[09:53] <titanix88> Xcell: is it free?
[09:53] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: Did you tell konq to scan for new plugins?
[09:54] <jpatrick> N1ghtm4r3: make sure you have /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree in the search list
[09:54] <Xcell> Dont know..
[09:54] <Xcell> forest m mims
[09:54] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: i entered sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and it tell me 0 updated 0 installed 0 deleted
[09:54] <Xcell> google that
[09:54] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: Are you using Gutsy?
[09:54] <Xcell> good christian engineer
[09:55] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: yeah
[09:55] <N1ghtm4r3> jpatrick: how do i do that anyway lol
[09:55] <titanix88> yeah. i got it. But i cant afford it.:(
[09:55] <Xcell> what titanix88
[09:55] <jpatrick> N1ghtm4r3: press in "New" and add it to the textbox
[09:57] <mosiac> dang
[09:57] <N1ghtm4r3> jpatrick: did , still doesnt work
[09:57] <Xcell> Dont go to radio shack,,they abuse electronics via texas instruments garbage..imported crap.
[09:57] <jpatrick> N1ghtm4r3: rescanned and restarted konq?
[09:58] <N1ghtm4r3> jpatrick: did twice
[09:59] <jpatrick> N1ghtm4r3: what does the plugins tab say?
[09:59] <ardchoille> jpatrick: fwiw, I don't have /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree in my konq plugins list, but flash works fine.
[09:59] <titanix88> Xcell: Not RadioShack! The website of the book of the author!
[09:59] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: Are you by chance on a 64bit system?
[10:00] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: no lol
[10:00] <ardchoille> ok
[10:00] <jpatrick> ardchoille: that's where my libflashplayer.so seems to be..
[10:00] <jpatrick> let's see..
[10:00] <jpatrick> !flash | N1ghtm4r3
[10:00] <ubotu> N1ghtm4r3: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:00] <titanix88> Xcell: forest mims is expensive.
[10:00] <ardchoille> jpatrick: As is mine, but that path isn't in the konq plugins list
[10:01] <ardchoille> Oh, well, it works.. I won't question it :)
[10:01] <Xcell> Never buy electronics from best buy or walmart..they are re-repaired components sold as a lot sum..that is why they warranty everything as they do.  I live in bangladesh. No radioshack here. :)
[10:03] <N1ghtm4r3> jpatrick: alredy done everything they said there .... still dont work
[10:03] <Xcell> Radio shack is junk..unless it is a name brand..even then is costs 2 much as a 3rd party.
[10:03] <titanix88> but cluster of 25-30  small electronics shops. We call them bazar.
[10:04] <jpatrick> N1ghtm4r3: odd indeed
[10:04] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: Just out of curiousity, open a terminal and do:  ls -l /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[10:04] <mosiac> so i installed the nvidia driver and it seemed to work fine but i am getting serious graphic glitches
[10:05] <Xcell> titanix88:  forest m mim rules as a means of truthful teaching of the field..beats anyone who professes as such..
[10:05] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: it says none find
[10:05] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: found*
[10:05] <Xcell> The man is christian and truthful,,no bogus info any where.
[10:05] <ardchoille> Keep in mind that this is a support channel. All off-topic chat should go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:06] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: Ah hah!
[10:06] <ardchoille> jpatrick: You see that?
[10:06] <Xcell> nite N1ghtm4r3
[10:06] <jpatrick> ardchoille: ok ok ;) must be my setup
[10:06] <N1ghtm4r3> ?
[10:06] <Xcell> oh  sry
[10:06] <N1ghtm4r3> lol
[10:06] <ardchoille> jpatrick: he's missing /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[10:06] <Xcell> I have 4 roms watching sry.
[10:07] <Xcell> rooms
[10:07] <titanix88> Xcell: Ok. Thnx.
[10:07] <Xcell> y/w titanix88.
[10:07] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: i feel that in a way or another i pretty much caused it?
[10:07] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: What do you get when you: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:07] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: it wouldnt surprize me .. im a long time win-Doser
[10:08] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: No problem, I'mm trying to help sort it out
[10:08] <Xcell> lol dosser
[10:08] <N1ghtm4r3> no Xcell lol
[10:08] <N1ghtm4r3> a winDoser
[10:08] <N1ghtm4r3> as in bulldoser
[10:08] <Xcell> lol
[10:09] <vzduch> Xcell: only 4 rooms? o0
[10:09] <N1ghtm4r3> ATENTION EVERYBODY
[10:09] <Xcell> yeeeehaw!
[10:09] <N1ghtm4r3> there will be a small spam
[10:09] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: Wait
[10:09] <N1ghtm4r3> ok
[10:09] <ardchoille> !pastebin | N1ghtm4r3
[10:09] <ubotu> N1ghtm4r3: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:09] <N1ghtm4r3> OOoooh
[10:09] <N1ghtm4r3> awesome!
[10:09] <N1ghtm4r3> lol
[10:09] <Xcell> vzduch: what?..lol
[10:10] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47341/
[10:10] <vzduch> Xcell: if you mean IRC channels.. I have 12 of 'em open
[10:10] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: its french but its pretty self explanatory
[10:10] <vzduch> and I know ppl who have ~30 open all the time
[10:10] <Xcell> I am duplistic in nature.
[10:11] <Xcell> They are robots..dont kid yourself vz.
[10:11] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: I'm seeing a lot of stuff I shouldn't be seeing there
[10:11] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: fun fun fun
[10:13] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47344/
[10:13] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: WTH!?
[10:14] <ardchoille> That's what you should have seen
[10:14] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: What's up with all those deps?
[10:14] <Xcell> vzduch: We here are humans..others need not apply.
[10:14] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: could it be because someone made me install Ubuntu Studios's desktop ... frigging gnome
[10:14] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: Quite possibly
[10:14] <jpatrick> ardchoille: seems he has it, but in french :D without the weird dep problems
[10:15] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: is there a way to fix it? or its fucked?
[10:15] <Xcell> So stop showing off already.
[10:15] <ardchoille> jpatrick: yeah
[10:15] <jpatrick> !language | N1ghtm4r3
[10:15] <ubotu> N1ghtm4r3: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[10:15] <N1ghtm4r3> !nofun | jpatrick
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nofun - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <N1ghtm4r3> lol
[10:15] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: Try this for me: sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:15] <N1ghtm4r3> joking with you jpatrick
[10:16] <jpatrick> ;)
[10:16] <Xcell> Showing off is a sign of insecurity.
[10:16] <Xcell> brb in 3 mins.
[10:16] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: it is asking me *same list* is gona be removed , do you want to continue?
[10:17] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: autoremove removes files/deps that are no longer needed. Your call, but I would recommend it
[10:17] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: you are the master here lol im still a n00bunteros
[10:18] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: Seems you had a lot of junk left over from the ubuntustudio-desktop install
[10:18] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoile: pretty much yeah
[10:18] <ardchoille> That should get rid of it
[10:18] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoile: its uninstallin now
[10:19] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: is this gona remove ubuntu studios too? *i wish*
[10:19] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: When that's done, we're going to search for the flashplugin
[10:19] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: i think its done now
[10:19] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: yeah it is
[10:20] <Xcell> Yeeehaw!
[10:21] <Xcell> Thaks.
[10:21] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: ok, do this: find /usr -type f -name libflashplayer.so
[10:21] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: so now i type sudo apt-get flashinstall-nonfree ?
[10:21] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: You already have it installed, don't you?
[10:21] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: normaly , i dont even know if it is due to the whole list of junk
[10:22] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: its searching now
[10:22] <Xcell> stoopid kee bord
[10:22] <N1ghtm4r3> Xcell: lol
[10:22] <Xcell> I want a refund.
[10:23] <N1ghtm4r3> Xcell: lemme guess ... A Open?
[10:23] <Xcell> ya
[10:23] <Xcell> lol
[10:23] <N1ghtm4r3> Xcell: LOL im a keyboard geek!
[10:23] <Xcell> I can tell.
[10:23] <vzduch> ardchoille: while you're at it.. how's the latest Flash plugin (<IP_ADDRESS>) doing in *buntu?
[10:24] <ardchoille> vzduch: Dunno, I have 9.0.48
[10:24] <N1ghtm4r3> Xcell: mines an Aopen too but i got lucky , the store that sold it to me is runed by old school hackers , they dont sell bad stuff
[10:24] <Xcell> nice
[10:25] <N1ghtm4r3> Xcell: IE my brother , his boss and his friend
[10:25] <Xcell> I was the oposite..they sell to tell.
[10:25] <vzduch> I downgraded to the .48.. the .115 seems to be nonfunctional.. crashes nspluginviewer & doesn't play local .swf files
[10:25] <N1ghtm4r3> Bill Gates style!
[10:25] <Xcell> Imust admit..the realtek i/o is super fast.
[10:25] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: ... i dunno if it found something
[10:26] <ardchoille> vzduch: Well, I don't install anything unless it's in the repos.
[10:26] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: i think not actualy
[10:26] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: It would print out what it found. if it retunred nothing, then it ofund nothing.
[10:26] <Xcell> My i/o is so fast im afraid to upgrade.
[10:26] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree | grep -i install
[10:26] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: ok then it didnt find anything
[10:27] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: Installé : <IP_ADDRESS>.2+really0ubuntu12
[10:27] <Xcell> My new mobo cant compare.
[10:27] <Xcell> And I am on a 2003 mobo...go figure.
[10:27] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: Ok, I don't get it. You have installed the correct package, yet the plugin can't be found.
[10:28] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:28] <Xcell> brb duty
[10:28] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, see, if you really have multiverse enabeld, and then command " sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree "
[10:29] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: the && means it will begin the second command right after the first one is over?
[10:29] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: yes
[10:29] <ardchoille> pag: He's on Gutsy, all repos should be enabled by default.
[10:30] <N1ghtm4r3> !paste
[10:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:30] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list for me please?
[10:31] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: this is what it gave me after the download http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47346/
[10:31] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: sure i'd do it .. where do i get it x_X
[10:32] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: Ah hah, plastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:32] <Xcell> k
[10:33] <Xcell> yuhooooo kubuntu Rocks...
[10:34] <Xcell> Pinch me.
[10:34] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: like i said ... im a newbee with linux , where do i find it
[10:34] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: in a terminal:  kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:35] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: nvm i think i found it in the root folder
[10:35] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: Don't need sudo because we aren't chaning anything
[10:35] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: It better not be in the root folder
[10:35] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: so sudo actualy overwrite something?
[10:36] <ardchoille> sudo runs a command as if root had ran it. we don't need it right now because we aren't editing the sources, just reading it
[10:36] <N1ghtm4r3> oooh ok
[10:36] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: First rule of thumb, never use sudo unless you really need it
[10:36] <Xcell> I fel like a virgin..bill has to pay...lol.
[10:37] <Xcell> bad joke..j/k.
[10:38] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47347/
[10:38] <N1ghtm4r3> Xcell: you wanna rape bill or what?!
[10:38] <Xcell> Raping bill would only make you stand in line.
[10:38] <N1ghtm4r3> ...indeed
[10:39] <N1ghtm4r3> XD
[10:39] <Xcell> I dont have time for financial wizards that will eventually fall by the way side.
[10:39] <mosiac> ok i broke it again, i unchecked the nvidia drivers because i was getting a lot of relics and glitches but now my resolution isnt set to widescreen like the moniter and no matter what I set it to, it doesnt go right what did i mess up?
[10:40] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: so infact , if i want to modify my sources.list i have to use sudo?
[10:40] <ardchoille> mosiac: To change video drivers, you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restart xorg
[10:40] <Xcell> People:...We the people (need) to support Kubuntu)..why?...Think about the money U wasted with windoze...U do the math.
[10:40] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: Correct
[10:41] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: Well, use sudo if editing in a cli app like vim, but you use kdesudo for editing in a gui app like kate or kedit
[10:41] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: first time someone actualy teach me something about linux ... ussualy peoples just go 'do this and that'
[10:41] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: teach a man to fish.. :)
[10:41] <Xcell> Kubuntu is a whole new learning experience...it takes time..but it is a honest ays work compared to buddy bill.
[10:42] <Xcell> days
[10:42] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: and he will have food all his life
[10:42] <ardchoille> Right
[10:42] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: thats some wise words
[10:42] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: I really don't understand why you are having this problem with the fplash plugin.
[10:43] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: well just like it just said , it wasnt installed , how do i install it now? considering i have the file
[10:44] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: you made me download it right after i deleted it right?
[10:44] <ardchoille> Well, you can simply cd /var/cache/apt/archives  and do  sudo dpkg -i name_of_package
[10:45] <Hirvinen_> window goto
[10:46]  * ardchoille hands Hirvinen_ a /
[10:52] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: what? it keeps doing it
[10:52] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: omg .... alright lets give it a try
[10:53] <Eicca> how come the [½§] and [alt] button wont work in wine? can those get somehow fixed?
[10:53] <N1ghtm4r3> !paste
[10:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:53] <eshat> hey all ,.. if i open a window in dolphin it's size does always get small so that i have to maximize each window ,... is there a setting for this behavior ???
[10:54] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: it gives me this error in Konqueror when i try flash : Erreur : http://video.google.fr/videohosted?docid=-3563784723686953251 : TypeError: Undefined value
[10:54] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: You might want to bookmark the pastebin :)
[10:54] <eshat> ok i found the error
[10:54] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: yeah
[10:55] <Xcell> k
[10:56] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: sooo ... that means no flash at all for me?
[10:56] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: The only thing I can think of is that the ubuntustuido install messed something, but I can't figure out what or how to fix it
[10:56] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: shit
[10:56] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: Well, if it were me, I'd backup all personal files and reinstall, but this time don't mess with ubuntustudio
[10:56] <Xcell> ardchoille:  where you @ dont tell if not necessary..
[10:56] <Xcell> dont
[10:56] <ardchoille> I hate having a system that isn't in prime working order
[10:57] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: aw man then i'd have to reinstall wine and all this ..
[10:57] <mosiac> reinstalling wine is pretty easy
[10:57] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: and it takes an eternity just to install kubuntu .. isnt there just a restore option?
[10:57] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: It's up to you. Or you could post this problem on ubuntu forums and see what they say
[10:57] <Xcell> me 2 ardchoille i hate sillt systems that act like they want to and cant.
[10:57] <Xcell> silly
[10:58] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: Try the ubuntu forums first
[10:58] <Xcell> k
[10:58] <Xcell> closed
[10:58] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: i dunno .. might take too long before they answer and i'd like to fix it before i go to bed
[10:59] <oobe> ya
[10:59] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: You'd be surprised, those forums are awesome
[11:01] <oobe> does anyone know some good scripts to download tv episode data for mythvideo like imdb.pl but for tv eps
[11:02] <Xcell> oi
[11:03] <Xcell> my kee bord needs wd40.
[11:04] <bucatoamano> hello kommander problem how i can setglobal to send to another dialog ?
[11:04] <bucatoamano> *how can i
[11:04] <Xcell> tires but still stays.
[11:05] <Xcell> 6 am here
[11:06] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: can you link them to me? for some reason the only site related to ubuntu i find is the one from france and there is hardly ever any replies from there , the other site i get is a world wide operation or something
[11:06] <Xcell> Beats the birds to the yawn.
[11:06] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: Sure, http://ubuntuforums.org
[11:07] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: thanks , sorry if im anoying
[11:07] <Xcell> Kubuntu is keeping me up.
[11:08] <Xcell> I'm addicted.
[11:08] <Xcell> N1ghtm4r3:  neve.
[11:08] <Xcell> r
[11:09] <Xcell> Its late and we all need sleep.
[11:09] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: You're not annoying, I enjoy helping. Sorry I couldn't be more help
[11:09] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: eh its fine , that other guy will get a kick in the nuts for screwing my Kubuntu up tho
[11:09] <Xcell> who N1ghtm4r3.
[11:09] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: you still taught me a lot
[11:10] <N1ghtm4r3> Ltn Sabre Vulpine i think
[11:10] <Xcell> wow..typical..I got that treatment til i mey ardchoille.
[11:10] <Xcell> met
[11:11] <Xcell> The man knows..and what he does not know he wil tell ya..that is the meqsure of a man.
[11:11] <Xcell> measure.
[11:12] <Xcell> The man Rocks.,
[11:12] <Xcell> very studied.
[11:12] <Xcell> nif said.
[11:14] <Xcell> N1ghtm4r3:  where are ya..
[11:15] <N1ghtm4r3> xcell: im right here
[11:15] <Sulo_Seppa> if I get KDE4 in the repos, will it replace my current KDE installation or can I switch between them?
[11:16] <vzduch> it's supposed to be separate
[11:17] <Xcell> sspoken from an angry man.
[11:17] <ardchoille> Sulo_Seppa: It installs kde4 so you can use it along side your current kde install
[11:17] <Xcell> I'll bet he hates life.
[11:17] <Sulo_Seppa> Okay I thought so.  Installing it manualy should work though..
[11:27] <Xcell> Be glad for something  your riches perish else wise.
[11:27] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: we've been trying all night actualy
[11:28] <eshat> Hey all ,.. i have a problem with my FN-Keys in kubuntu ,....
[11:28] <Sulo_Seppa> what is the problem, eshat?
[11:29] <eshat> if can't control my sound woth the FN Keys,... i only switch between 17 % an 0 % but sound does not change,... pressing fn+mute works ,... i alread tried to change global hotkeys in kmix,... also no change
[11:29] <eshat> eshat: sorry for my bad english
[11:30] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, try the following in konsole: "locate flash | grep plugin"
[11:31] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: /usr/share/app-install/desktop/flashplugin-nonfree.desktop
[11:31] <ardchoille> pag: The problem was that the libflashplugin.so file isn't on his system
[11:32] <Sulo_Seppa> eshat: did you set your sound levels right?
[11:32] <pag> ardchoille, I know... I've experienced that problem myself once..
[11:32] <ardchoille> pag: Ah, ok, maybe you can get it working for him
[11:32] <eshat> Sulo_Seppa: where to set?
[11:33] <stuffcorpse> hello, firefox is doing weird things with .txt files. it always pops up a download box instead of displaying in the browser. anyone knows whats up wth that?
[11:33] <vzduch> eshat: KMix and/or alsamixer
[11:33] <Sulo_Seppa> eshat: but you can change sound in kmix
[11:33] <pag> ardchoille, I'll try... it's harder to explain than I though (no 'this-fixes-all' command for this :( )
[11:33] <Sulo_Seppa> stuffcorpse: yes, you are using firefox. use a better browser
[11:34] <eshat> Sulo_Seppa: i think it is set up rightly
[11:34] <vzduch> hrhr
[11:34] <Sulo_Seppa> stuffcorpse: or choose to handle hte fire correctly
[11:34] <Sulo_Seppa> the*
[11:34] <ardchoille> pag: That's actually a good thing, N1ghtm4r3 likes to learn rather than have yo do it for him, it's a good attitude to have
[11:34] <stuffcorpse> Sulo_Seppa: better browser as in konqueror?
[11:34] <Sulo_Seppa> konqueror is one, yes.
[11:34] <stuffcorpse> Sulo_Seppa: handle what?
[11:35] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, you'll need to download the flash-package from Adobe site, since I can't remember where it can be found on system
[11:35] <Sulo_Seppa> eshat: you can only switch between 0% and 17% using the function keys?
[11:35] <eshat> is there a way to configure kmilo ???
[11:35] <stuffcorpse> Sulo_Seppa: i use konq sometimes actually
[11:35] <eshat> Sulo_Seppa: sorry,,... i meant 0% and 11 % when pressing fn+up or fn+down
[11:35] <Sulo_Seppa> stuffcorpse: edit->pref->content
[11:35] <Sulo_Seppa> eshat: and it won't increase any more? wow..
[11:36] <stuffcorpse> Sulo_Seppa: there's no txt entry in file types
[11:36] <Sulo_Seppa> make one
[11:36] <eshat> Sulo_Seppa: yes,... also i only see the changes it that little box that appers while pressing,... if i open kmix there nothing changes when i press fn+up or down
[11:36] <stuffcorpse> Sulo_Seppa:i don't know how
[11:37] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: alright brb
[11:37] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, or hmm.. actually it's in /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz  so copy that to your desktop and extract there
[11:37] <eshat> is there a way to configure kmilo ,... or should i remove kmilo ???
[11:37] <Sulo_Seppa> kmilo?
[11:37] <ardchoille> !info kmilo
[11:38] <ubotu> kmilo: laptop special keys support for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 66 kB, installed size 240 kB
[11:38] <Sulo_Seppa> eshat: Well obviously it is changing the sound if you hit the function keys, so the keys aren't the problem
[11:40] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: done , what do i do next?
[11:41] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, navigate there with konsole ( cd Desktop/$WhateverTheNewDirectoryIsCalled )
[11:41] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, or open that dir with Konq. and hit F4.. should also work..
[11:42] <Xcell> yay go to the other 1
[11:43] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: then i hit enter?
[11:43] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, yup.. it should take you to that dir
[11:44] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: alright i am
[11:44] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: what do i do now?
[11:44] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, are you trying to get it to work with Firefox or Konq.?
[11:44] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: Konq
[11:45] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, ok... could you pastebin the output of ' ls '
[11:46] <Sulo_Seppa> Wait.. what are you doing? trying to install flash?
[11:46] <compuman> Hi guys, I have a problem.  I am in Ubuntu safe mode right now.  Accessing the default session gives me an "your session lasted less than ten seconds" error.  Can someone please help me, as this is my productivity machine?
[11:47] <ardchoille> compuman: That sounds like a problem with GDM (gnome display manager)
[11:47] <Sulo_Seppa> compuman: What were your recent changes?
[11:47] <pag> Sulo_Seppa, yup. it doesn't want to go through repos, since Adobe and Ubuntu seem to disagree on md5sum :(
[11:47] <compuman> Sulo_Seppa: Install RealPlayer, afaik.
[11:48] <Sulo_Seppa> compuman: Can you tell me more about the situation? Did you just boot up and that happen or were you changing stuff and that happened?
[11:48] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47350/
[11:49] <ardchoille> pag: So he just needs to cp the libflashplayer.so file to /usr/lib ?
[11:49] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, allright.. try the following now: "sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so "
[11:49] <Sulo_Seppa> pag: just get it from 3rd party or something
[11:50] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: it asked for my pass then .. nothing , just back to ls
[11:51] <Sulo_Seppa> compuman: well?
[11:51] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, commands do not provide output if everything goes well ;)
[11:51] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: THAT is fun to know actualy o_o ..
[11:51] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: msdos definitly aint like this lol
[11:51] <compuman> Sulo_Seppa: I made a symbolic link for realplayer.
[11:52] <Sulo_Seppa> compuman: sudo chown (username) .ICEauthority
[11:52] <Sulo_Seppa> according to ubuntuforums
[11:53]  * N1ghtm4r3 sings *This , is the sound! This , is the sound! This , is the sound! Like a Drug Drug!
[11:53]  * N1ghtm4r3 trance
[11:53] <compuman> What will that do, Sulo_Seppa?
[11:53] <Sulo_Seppa> compuman: hopefully fix it
[11:54] <Sulo_Seppa> if not, then come back and I'll tell you something else to try
[11:54] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, next you could do " ln -s /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ "
[11:54] <compuman> process:5335): Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid.
[11:54] <compuman> This is not a supported use of GTK+. You must create a helper
[11:54] <compuman> program instead. For further details, see:
[11:54] <compuman>     http://www.gtk.org/setuid.html
[11:54] <compuman> Refusing to initialize GTK+.
[11:55] <Sulo_Seppa> compuman: What?
[11:55] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: Permission not granted
[11:55] <compuman> An error message.
[11:55] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, oh... prefix that all with sudo
[11:55] <Sulo_Seppa> compuman: how did that error message originate?
[11:55]  * N1ghtm4r3 trances and sing 'Iiits a dreeeaaam'
[11:55] <stuffcorpse> Sulo_Seppa: I figured out what's wrong. thanks for the help
[11:55] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: uh?
[11:56] <compuman> It is what happens when I go in default session.
[11:56] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ ?
[11:56] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, yup :)
[11:56] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: alright giving it a try
[11:56] <Sulo_Seppa> Why all that work to install flashplayer? why not just use flashplayer-installer or whatever it is?
[11:56] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, after you're done you could install konqueror-nsplugins ( sudo apt-get install konqueror-nsplugins ) and navigate to konq's Settings -> Plugins -> Search for new plugins (or something similiar)  iirc it should work after that..
[11:57] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: absolutely no output
[11:57] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, no output is good :-)
[11:57] <ardchoille> Sulo_Seppa: Because it won't work on his system
[11:57] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: done , now i gota reboot konq?
[11:58] <Sulo_Seppa> it won't work? why not?
[11:58] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, yup. might be a good thing to do
[11:58] <Sulo_Seppa> compuman: try rm ~/.gnome2/session
[11:58] <compuman> http://pastebin.com/d709edcc7
[11:59] <Sulo_Seppa> Try what I said, compuman
[12:00] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: nspluginviewer just crashed
[12:00] <deuryte_> xcell
[12:00] <Xcell> ya
[12:00] <neville> Is it possible at all to get a screenshot of a screensaver?
[12:01] <deuryte_> going back to beat them up......
[12:01] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: mh weird
[12:01] <Xcell> go to #jesus
[12:01] <Xcell> i cant
[12:01] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: now it doesnt give me a link to download flash
[12:01] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: but it gives me a blank grey square instead of where should be a video runing under flash
[12:01] <Sulo_Seppa> neville: you mean without destroying the universe? doubt it
[12:02] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, ok... le's try Sulo_Seppa's approach: " sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so && chmod +x flashplayer-installer && sudo ./flashplayer-instaler "
[12:02] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: nspluginviewer crashed again
[12:02] <compuman> File apparently doesn't exist.
[12:02] <Sulo_Seppa> no no
[12:03] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: sudo: ./flashplayer-instaler: command not found
[12:03] <ardchoille> Well, bedtime for me.. been up since 6am yesterday.
[12:03] <Sulo_Seppa> compuman: well, there is some session file in ~/.gnome/ that you should delete
[12:03] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, are you still in that flash-dir on your desktop?
[12:03] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: woops XD
[12:03] <Sulo_Seppa> you shouldn't run flashplayer-installer as root
[12:03] <compuman> Nope.
[12:03] <Sulo_Seppa> it doesn't make sense..
[12:03] <pag> Sulo_Seppa, erm.. does it install in home-dir? :O
[12:03] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: lemme open a new one lol
[12:03] <vzduch> N1ghtm4r3: which Flash version did you install?
[12:04] <Sulo_Seppa> yes
[12:04] <ardchoille> Sulo_Seppa: The package manager runs it as root
[12:04] <Sulo_Seppa> package manager is mysterious
[12:04] <Sulo_Seppa> ./flashplayer-installer should be ran as user
[12:04] <ardchoille> Sulo_Seppa: The only way for the flash installer to work correctly is to run it as root
[12:05] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: rm cannot remove `/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so': no files of this type
[12:05] <neville> Yeah, thought as much x.x;
[12:05] <Sulo_Seppa> No!
[12:05] <neville> I'll just try with xvidcap, thanks anyway though!
[12:05] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, you don't have to do this anymore - it already did that
[12:05] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: uh sorry
[12:06] <Sulo_Seppa> N1ghtm4r3: just do ./flashplayer-installer
[12:06] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, just run " chmod +x flashplayer-installer && ./flashplayer-instaler "
[12:06] <vzduch> pag: spelling..
[12:06] <Sulo_Seppa> ardchoille: not true at all. flash plugin installs in ~/.mozilla
[12:06] <ardchoille> Sulo_Seppa: No, it installs in /usr/lib
[12:06] <N1ghtm4r3> it doesnt find it .. it is not in ./
[12:07] <pag> vzduch, oh... quess I didn't have enogh coffee this morning ;P
[12:07] <Sulo_Seppa> what, N1ghtm4r3?
[12:07] <N1ghtm4r3> Sulo_seppa: its not in ./
[12:07] <N1ghtm4r3> Sulo_seppa: it just doesnt find it
[12:07] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, might be due I mispelled it...it should be  ./flashplayer-installer
[12:08] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: nope it still cant find it
[12:08] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, are you in the right dir?
[12:08] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: pwd
[12:08] <N1ghtm4r3> ardchoille: ?
[12:08] <Sulo_Seppa> archoille: I am using flash. there is no flash plugin in /usr/lib
[12:08] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: type: pwd
[12:09] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, give us output of that command, please :)
[12:09] <ardchoille> Sulo_Seppa: I installed it with the package manager and it installed in /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[12:09] <N1ghtm4r3> pag:
[12:09] <N1ghtm4r3> christian@Norton-Killer:~$ ./flashplayer-installer
[12:09] <N1ghtm4r3> bash: ./flashplayer-installer: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type
[12:09] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, I meant 'pwd'
[12:10] <N1ghtm4r3> pag:
[12:10] <N1ghtm4r3> christian@Norton-Killer:~$ pwd
[12:10] <N1ghtm4r3> /home/christian
[12:10] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: ah :)
[12:10] <ardchoille> N1ghtm4r3: Wrong dir
[12:10] <Sulo_Seppa> N1ghtm4r3: where is flashplayer-installer located?
[12:10] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, cd Desktop/ins*
[12:10] <N1ghtm4r3> feck
[12:11] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, or actually.. just hit <tab> instead of *
[12:12] <N1ghtm4r3> im in
[12:12] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: im in
[12:12] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, just command " ./flashplayer-installer " then
[12:12] <ardchoille> He's going to get a permissions error without sudo
[12:12] <Sulo_Seppa> (before he tried repos, did he update?)
[12:13] <Sulo_Seppa> N1ghtm4re: type this: "chmod 777 fl*" then do "./flashplayer-installer"
[12:13] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47351/
[12:14] <ardchoille> Sulo_Seppa: The script itself is coded to install it in /usr/lib. without sudo it will fail
[12:14] <ardchoille> Anyway, good night
[12:14] <N1ghtm4r3> gnight
[12:14] <ardchoille> Thanks for the help pag
[12:15] <buz> can i upgrade dapper to gutsy directly?
[12:15] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, allright... just in case: " sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree "
[12:15] <Sulo_Seppa> buz: no
[12:15] <Sulo_Seppa> buz: you must upgrade one at a time
[12:16] <buz> mpf
[12:16] <buz> that takes forever on a bloody 500k link
[12:16] <buz> easier to install from cd then
[12:16] <Sulo_Seppa> buz: I know, it sucks but that is the way they made it.
[12:16] <buz> what happens if i just bump dapper to gutsy in apt.sources
[12:16] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: long ass output
[12:17] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: but it end up with this
[12:17] <N1ghtm4r3> pag:
[12:17] <N1ghtm4r3> 07:16:36 (504.62 KB/s) - « ./install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz » sauvegardé [3036127/3036127]
[12:17] <N1ghtm4r3> Download done.
[12:17] <N1ghtm4r3> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[12:17] <N1ghtm4r3> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[12:18] <Sulo_Seppa> N1ghtm4r3: I will walk you through this step by step, okay?
[12:18] <N1ghtm4r3> sulo_seppa: alright
[12:18] <Sulo_Seppa> cd ~
[12:18] <Sulo_Seppa> wget http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[12:18] <deuryte> xcell
[12:19] <Xcell> ya
[12:19] <N1ghtm4r3> sulo_seppa: done
[12:19] <Xcell> lol I nailed it.
[12:19] <deuryte> how long is a ban
[12:19] <Sulo_Seppa> tar -zxf install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[12:19] <Xcell> dot know
[12:19] <Sulo_Seppa> cd install_flash_player_9_linux
[12:19] <N1ghtm4r3> sulo_seppa: done
[12:19] <Xcell> stand bye i'll mail you with a new room.
[12:19] <N1ghtm4r3> sulo_seppa: done
[12:19] <deuryte> 4
[12:20] <Sulo_Seppa> ./flashplayer-installer
[12:20] <Sulo_Seppa> and then do what it says. if you need any more help, just ask
[12:20] <N1ghtm4r3> sulo_seppa:asks me to press enter if i wanna instal
[12:20] <Sulo_Seppa> yes
[12:20] <Sulo_Seppa> just hit enter
[12:21] <N1ghtm4r3> sulo_seppa: didnt work
[12:21] <Sulo_Seppa> N1ghtm4r3: didn't work? with firefox?
[12:22] <N1ghtm4r3> sulo_seppa: im on Kubuntu , i wanna make it work on Konq , i dont have firefox installed
[12:22] <Sulo_Seppa> What did you try doing that did not work?
[12:22] <deuryte> sulo   u have a 64bit system??
[12:22] <Sulo_Seppa> oh okay
[12:22] <N1ghtm4r3> sulo_seppa: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47352/
[12:23] <Sulo_Seppa> okay N1ghtm4r3, do this:
[12:23] <Sulo_Seppa> sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:23] <Sulo_Seppa> then open firefox, and close firefox
[12:24] <Sulo_Seppa> then do:
[12:24] <N1ghtm4r3> sulo_seppa: why? i wanna make it work on Konq
[12:24] <Sulo_Seppa> sudo apt-get remove firefox
[12:24] <lg188__> hey
[12:24] <N1ghtm4r3> sulo_seppa: Oooooh i get it
[12:24] <Sulo_Seppa> You need to do this first, N1ghtm4r3
[12:25] <lg188__> is cab available in kubuntu
[12:25] <Sulo_Seppa> wait, before the sudo apt-get remove firefox, install the flash plugin
[12:25] <Sulo_Seppa> cab?
[12:25] <N1ghtm4r3> cab is a iso file
[12:25] <lg188__> ahhh
[12:25] <lg188__> N1ghtm4r3: ty
[12:26] <N1ghtm4r3> YAY! I helped the comunity for the first time! =D
[12:26] <Sulo_Seppa> congratz :p
[12:26] <N1ghtm4r3> hehehehe
[12:26] <lg188__> Sulo_Seppa:  :)
[12:26] <Sulo_Seppa> Did it work, N1ghtm4r3?
[12:26] <lg188__> gongratz
[12:26] <lg188__> congratz*
[12:26] <N1ghtm4r3> Sulo_seppa: just installed firefox
[12:26] <Sulo_Seppa> okay
[12:26] <N1ghtm4r3> Sulo_seppa: now i run it once?
[12:26] <Sulo_Seppa> yes
[12:26] <N1ghtm4r3> wait
[12:27] <deuryte> w2ktu rocks
[12:27] <N1ghtm4r3> Sulo_seppa: it downloaded .. not sure if its installed yet
[12:27] <lg188__> it install auto after downloading  i think
[12:28] <Sulo_Seppa> well, just type firefox and press enter
[12:28] <Sulo_Seppa> because it's firefox, it will take forever to start up :p
[12:28] <N1ghtm4r3> Sulo_seppa: it takes longer than that on my windows partition lol , but thats cause theirs many plugins
[12:29] <N1ghtm4r3> Sulo_seppa: also .. Done!
[12:29] <Sulo_Seppa> okay
[12:29] <Sulo_Seppa> now, after running firefox, close it and do this:
[12:29] <Sulo_Seppa> ./flashplayer-installer
[12:29] <Sulo_Seppa> just hit enter a bunch
[12:31] <N1ghtm4r3> Sulo_seppa: installed , now it asked me if i wanna do a new instalation
[12:31] <Sulo_Seppa> nope
[12:31] <Sulo_Seppa> now, run konqueror
[12:31] <lg188__> what is mouting i forgotten
[12:31] <N1ghtm4r3> Sulo_seppa: it says to log out and back in for it to work
[12:31] <N1ghtm4r3> Sulo_seppa: screw this lol *starts konq*
[12:31] <Sulo_Seppa> it won't work..
[12:31] <Sulo_Seppa> probably
[12:32] <N1ghtm4r3> lets still give it a try no?
[12:32] <Sulo_Seppa> but keep konqueror open
[12:32] <Sulo_Seppa> click settings->configure konqueror
[12:32] <Sulo_Seppa> then on the left plane, scroll down to plugins
[12:32] <N1ghtm4r3> ok
[12:32] <Sulo_Seppa> on the bottom right, it has netscape plugins, click scan
[12:32] <lg188__> what means mouting ?i always forget
[12:33] <N1ghtm4r3> mounting means 'mounting' a c iso file (or a cab in your option) into a virtual drive
[12:33] <Sulo_Seppa> did it work N1ghtm4r3?
[12:34] <lg188__> N1ghtm4r3: ty, are you new ?
[12:34] <N1ghtm4r3> yeah im new here lol
[12:34] <Sulo_Seppa> mounting is loading a filesystem
[12:34] <N1ghtm4r3> and once its done should i try a flash?
[12:34] <lg188__> Sulo_Seppa: i no it from N1ghtm4r3
[12:34] <Sulo_Seppa> yes
[12:35] <lg188__> know*
[12:35] <Sulo_Seppa> but make sure the "search for plugins on kde startup" is checked
[12:35] <Sulo_Seppa> lg188__: But I am Finnish, so I am superior
[12:36] <lg188__> butt now i have to learn ( for school for French etc.)
[12:36] <lg188__> Sulo_Seppa:  ?
[12:36] <lg188__> N1ghtm4r3: good luck but you know much
[12:36] <Sulo_Seppa> suomi
[12:37] <Sulo_Seppa> does it work, N1ghtm4r3?
[12:37] <N1ghtm4r3> Sulo_seppa: no
[12:37] <pag> Sulo_Seppa, #kubuntu-fi ;-)
[12:37] <Sulo_Seppa> okay, just log out then log back in
[12:37] <N1ghtm4r3> Sulo_seppa: its nspluginviewer that crashed
[12:37] <N1ghtm4r3> provoked signal 11
[12:38] <Sulo_Seppa> pag: is that the cool people room?
[12:38] <Sulo_Seppa> N1ghtm4r3: well, just try logging out/in
[12:38] <pag> Sulo_Seppa, sure it is :D
[12:38] <N1ghtm4r3> Sulo_seppa: k brb
[12:39] <Sulo_Seppa> where are you from pag?
[12:39] <pag> Sulo_Seppa, originally from Russia - been living most of my life in Finland though :)
[12:40] <Sulo_Seppa> You dirty bastard
[12:40] <lg188__> pag: pleas stay on tpoic ... but talc i you wont
[12:40] <Sulo_Seppa> My grandpa died by you people :(
[12:40] <lg188__> Sulo_Seppa: ? pleas do not get angry ...
[12:40] <Sulo_Seppa> I'm just joking
[12:40] <pag> lg188__, sorry.
[12:41] <Sulo_Seppa> but really, my grandpa fought in the winter war, and died in viipuri
[12:41] <tianya> hello
[12:41] <Sulo_Seppa> Hello tianya
[12:41] <tianya> 有没 有人在啊
[12:42] <Sulo_Seppa> Nice picture
[12:42] <N1ghtm4r3> back
[12:42] <Sulo_Seppa> works
[12:42] <Sulo_Seppa> ?
[12:42] <tianya> working
[12:42] <tianya> who are you
[12:43] <stdin> !cn
[12:43] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[12:43] <Sulo_Seppa> Does it work, N1ghtm4r3?
[12:43] <N1ghtm4r3> sulo_seppa: no , still the same blank grey square
[12:44] <bjwebb> hi
[12:44] <N1ghtm4r3> and when i quit or change page it crashes again
[12:44] <Sulo_Seppa> open konqueror and go to settings->configure konqueror and click on plugins again
[12:44] <bjwebb> im having trouble writing dvds
[12:44] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, if you haven't already removed FF, see if it works in it
[12:44] <Sulo_Seppa> bjwebb: what is the problem?
[12:44] <bjwebb> i can write CDs fine and also play dvds
[12:44] <bjwebb> Sulo_Seppa: k3b fails
[12:44] <Sulo_Seppa> bjwebb: you have a dvd writer correct? :D
[12:45] <bjwebb> yeah
[12:45] <Sulo_Seppa> Hmm, what output does k3b give you?
[12:45] <bjwebb> ive used it for dvds under windows
[12:45] <bjwebb> Sulo_Seppa: erm i had a pastebin but the site's down :(
[12:46] <Sulo_Seppa> N1ghtm4r3: click "scan for new plugins"
[12:46] <N1ghtm4r3> It works on firefox
[12:46] <N1ghtm4r3> its only the viewplugin that fails now
[12:46] <bjwebb> its says Write Error
[12:47] <Sulo_Seppa> bjwebb: is that it?
[12:47] <bjwebb> nah, ill paste debug somewhere
[12:47] <Sulo_Seppa> N1ghtm4r3: what plugin? you don't need a special plugin for konqueror
[12:47] <bjwebb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47355/
[12:48] <N1ghtm4r3> Sulo_seppa: actualy i think yeah , it needs one , pag made me install one tho
[12:48] <N1ghtm4r3> Sulo_seppa: and it says it needs one in the flash readme
[12:49] <Sulo_Seppa> bjwebb: restricted overwrite?
[12:49] <bjwebb> hmm, what does that mean
[12:49] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, konqueror-nsplugin is just a plugin wrapper - not the plugin itself
[12:49] <Sulo_Seppa> you aren't allowed to overwrite that DVD+RW?
[12:49] <bjwebb> Sulo_Seppa: hmm why not
[12:49] <Sulo_Seppa> try running sudo k3b and trying
[12:50] <bjwebb> okay
[12:50] <N1ghtm4r3> nspluginviewer
[12:50] <N1ghtm4r3> seems to be corupted or something
[12:50] <Sulo_Seppa> You don't need konqueror-nsplugin
[12:51] <N1ghtm4r3> how do i disable it then
[12:51] <Sulo_Seppa> sudo apt-get remove konqueror-nsplugin
[12:51] <Sulo_Seppa> purge that bitch
[12:51] <bjwebb> Sulo_Seppa: same probelm
[12:51] <shark> hello everybody
[12:51] <Sulo_Seppa> bjwebb: really?
[12:51] <bjwebb> yeah
[12:51] <N1ghtm4r3> IMMA PURGE THAT BEEOTCH!
[12:51] <Sulo_Seppa> bjwebb: is it writing at the right speed and everything?
[12:52] <bjwebb> i dunno really
[12:52] <N1ghtm4r3> christian@Norton-Killer:~$ sudo apt-get remove konqueror-nsplugin
[12:52] <N1ghtm4r3> [sudo] password for christian:
[12:52] <N1ghtm4r3> Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
[12:52] <N1ghtm4r3> Construction de l'arbre des dépendances
[12:52] <N1ghtm4r3> Lecture des informations d'état... Fait
[12:52] <N1ghtm4r3> E: Impossible de trouver le paquet konqueror-nsplugin
[12:52] <bjwebb> im just using default settings
[12:52] <N1ghtm4r3> Impossible to find paquet for Konqueror -nsplugin
[12:52] <bjwebb> btw, it refers to it as appendable dvd medium
[12:52] <bjwebb> so perhaps theres something on it already
[12:52] <shark> i have only ONE question.. is KDE4 will be implemented in Kubuntu 7.10 or only in 8.04?
[12:52] <bjwebb> perhaps i should try erasing it
[12:52] <Sulo_Seppa> bjwebb: yep
[12:52] <Sulo_Seppa> erase it firest
[12:52] <ahmad> heyy
[12:53] <ahmad> i have a problem here
[12:53] <ahmad> i want to mount my NTFS hdd drive
[12:53] <ahmad> i want to mount my NTFS hdd drives
[12:53] <Sulo_Seppa> shark: you can upgrade to KDE4 in 7.10 but obviously it cannot be default, while it will be default in 8.04
[12:53] <Sulo_Seppa> ahmad: sudo mount /dev/ntfswhtaever /mount/whatever
[12:54] <bjwebb> Sulo_Seppa: hey thanks for the support
[12:54] <stdin> Sulo_Seppa: who said kde4 will be default in 8.04?
[12:54] <bjwebb> it appears to be working :D
[12:54] <pag> Sulo_Seppa, kde4 will *not* be default in hardy (8.04) we'll have to wait 'till 8.10 for that
[12:54] <bjwebb> :(
[12:54] <Sulo_Seppa> stdin: damn well better be
[12:54] <N1ghtm4r3> one more year lol
[12:54] <lg188__> what are al version like dapper and gutsy ?
[12:54] <Sulo_Seppa> what?
[12:55] <Sulo_Seppa> seriously?
[12:55] <stdin> Sulo_Seppa: I don't think it's ready for an LTS release, do you?
[12:55] <ahmad> Sulp_Seppa : it gives me that error :hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[12:55] <bjwebb> stdin: good point
[12:55] <Lynoure> Sulo_Seppa: have you tried kde4? and tried 'advanced' stuff like multiple desktops or multiple panels? :)
[12:55] <shark> and...do I will be able to install KDE4 to Kubuntu7.10?
[12:55] <Sulo_Seppa> Official release is in January, that gives you 3 months.
[12:55] <Sulo_Seppa> Too difficult?
[12:56] <Lynoure> Sulo_Seppa: just not happening yet.
[12:56] <Sulo_Seppa> shark: yes
[12:56] <Sulo_Seppa> Why the hell not?
[12:56] <shark> okay thanks..thats all. have good day...see you
[12:56] <bjwebb> KDE4 will be great, but probably won't be stable enough for them till kde4.1 i guess
[12:56] <ahmad> Sulo_Seppa : it gives me that error :hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[12:56] <Lynoure> Sulo_Seppa: 'code it yourself or wait' difficult
[12:56] <N1ghtm4r3> Sulo_seppa: .. it didnt work when i tried to uninstall .. im not daring to talk much you seem busy lol
[12:56] <Sulo_Seppa> N1ghtm4r3: can you translate?
[12:57] <stdin> Sulo_Seppa: can you make it rock solid and have it stable enough for enterprise companies to use for 3 years? if you can then I need to borrow your magic wand
[12:57] <N1ghtm4r3> Sulo_seppa: i did
[12:57] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, package is called konqueror-nsplugins not the konqueror-nsplugin
[12:57] <Sulo_Seppa> stdin: January is stable release
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> Sulo_Seppa: kde4 is not going to be in 8.04
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> Sulo_Seppa: despite what they say.... 4.0 is NOT going to be stable.
[12:57] <stdin> Sulo_Seppa: no, jan is 4.0 release, doesn't mean stable. it won't be considered stable until at least 4.1
[12:58] <Sulo_Seppa> stdin: They won't fix major release bugs in 3 months?
[12:58] <N1ghtm4r3> thanks pag
[12:58] <Sulo_Seppa> *sigh* oh well it doesn't really matter to me..
[12:58] <stdin> Sulo_Seppa: the'll fix release bugs, but not most bugs
[12:58] <Sulo_Seppa> Just sad to see that kubuntu won't have the latest stable release of KDE because there might be a few bugs..
[12:59] <N1ghtm4r3> pag , Sulo_Seppa , now to try it
[12:59] <lg188__> N1ghtm4r3: im bck but can't talk alot
[12:59] <lg188__> back
[12:59] <stdin> Sulo_Seppa: no it's not because "there might be a few bugs", it's because there *will* be *many* bugs
[12:59] <Lynoure> Sulo_Seppa: you can still install it on the side, just like you can now
[13:00] <N1ghtm4r3> pag Sullo_Seppa , now it gives me nothing ,
[13:00] <Sulo_Seppa> N1ghtm4r3: try scanning
[13:01] <Sulo_Seppa> Lynoure: well sure, but the fact that it is going to be excluded from the release is heartbreaking.
[13:02] <N1ghtm4r3> pag Sullo_Seppa , um there is no 'plugin' tab...
[13:02] <Sulo_Seppa> really?
[13:02] <Sulo_Seppa> okay, then do:
[13:02] <Sulo_Seppa> sudo apt-get install konqueror-nsplugin
[13:02] <Sulo_Seppa> s
[13:02] <Lynoure> Sulo_Seppa: Have you really tried the current release candidate? In the light of that, I find it not being in LTS kubuntu heartwarming.
[13:02] <nosrednaekim> lol
[13:02] <Sulo_Seppa> Lynoure: exactly. it is a release candidate.
[13:03] <neo> guys how can I make windows in one scree(dualhead) to divide the desktop evenly between them
[13:04] <muimota___> hello I-ve been a week with my kubuntu crashing at boot time... finally I have discovered the computercrashes when loading usb-core. I'd like to disable it temporally while I find another solution
[13:04] <Sulo_Seppa> neo: nvidia?
[13:04] <muimota___> how can I disable usb core
[13:04] <N1ghtm4r3> BLANK GREY SQUARE FTW!
[13:04] <bjwebb_> hmm why is compiz so crashy allo f a suddon
[13:04] <neo> ya
[13:04] <Sulo_Seppa> N1ghtm4r3: did you try scanning again?
[13:04] <nosrednaekim> muimota___: you should be able to do it with a kernel parameter
[13:04] <N1ghtm4r3> pag Sullo_Seppa : yep
[13:05] <N1ghtm4r3> pag Sullo_Seppa : im thinking more and more about a simple reinstall ..
[13:06] <Lynoure> Sulo_Seppa: So, you have tried it? You can always fork kubuntu, if it is worth it for you.
[13:06] <muimota___> nosrednaekim: do you know which paremater is that? in this year working with kubunut I know somethig about kde but almost nothing of the inside of linux
[13:06] <Sulo_Seppa> N1ghtm4r3: no wait! I got it working perfect here, I guess you do need nsplugins
[13:06] <N1ghtm4r3> pag Sullo_Seppa : ?
[13:06] <Sulo_Seppa> Lynoure: Nah, it doesn't really matter to me, I use archlinux
[13:06] <nosrednaekim> muimota___: yeah, I'm looking. why did it suddenly start doing this? did you upgrade the kernel?
[13:07] <muimota___> I computer left working correcly in a week or so
[13:07] <muimota___> after a upgrade I think
[13:07] <pag> nosrednaekim, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/173890 \o/
[13:07] <neo> got the dualhead working but I have to manually resize the windows, how to make them divide the desktop more easily? some package for that?
[13:07] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, that link was for you... sorry nosrednaekim
[13:08] <nosrednaekim> pag: what?.... oh..ok
[13:08] <Sulo_Seppa> N1ghtm4r3: okay, instead of scan, click on the plugins tab
[13:08] <Sulo_Seppa> click plugins tabs next to scan
[13:09] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, try installing this one: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10761023/flashplugin-nonfree_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu2_i386.deb
[13:09] <Sulo_Seppa> pag: will that work for konqueror?
[13:09] <Sulo_Seppa> pag: because it should be working nicely now..
[13:09] <pag> Sulo_Seppa, that will install it properly -> increases chanses
[13:09] <nosrednaekim> muimota___: you could try adding the "nousb" option on boot.
[13:10] <muimota___> ok, thanks I'll try
[13:10] <nosrednaekim> muimota___: do you know how to do that?
[13:11] <N1ghtm4r3> sulo_seppa pag : my lower bar just crashed ... its not there anymore
[13:11] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, alt+f2 -> kicker
[13:12] <N1ghtm4r3> thanks pag
[13:12] <N1ghtm4r3> lol
[13:12] <N1ghtm4r3> ZOMG ITS BACK!
[13:12] <nosrednaekim> or you can do "dcop kicker kicker restart"
[13:12] <neo> guys I have a pixelview tv tuner card install in my box, how to know if its recognized or not and is working or not
[13:12] <nosrednaekim> neo: lspci for the first question
[13:13] <Sulo_Seppa> I think he means drivers
[13:13] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: that link didnt fix much
[13:14] <N1ghtm4r3> sulo_seppa : alright i'll get ya a screenshot
[13:14] <neo> Is it Lspci or Ispci
[13:14] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, that package didn't install either?
[13:14] <nosrednaekim> neo: as a general rule, commands in linux are lowercase.
[13:15] <N1ghtm4r3> pag it did
[13:15] <neo> Ok its L.
[13:15] <nosrednaekim> small l...
[13:15] <neo> ya thanks
[13:15] <neo> reading about it right now
[13:15] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, does the plugin-scan still crash in konq?
[13:16] <N1ghtm4r3> pag the plugin-scan never crashed
[13:17] <N1ghtm4r3> pag: its when it tries to run a flash
[13:17] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, oh.. ok..
[13:17] <nosrednaekim> neo: "sudo lshw" might be a little better actually
[13:17] <neo> ok I did lspci and this is what I got,
[13:17] <neo> 02:07.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)
[13:17] <neo> 02:07.1 Multimedia controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder [Audio Port] (rev 05)
[13:18] <pag> N1ghtm4r3, try the following just in case: "mv ~/.mozilla ~/mozilla" and then rescan for plugins
[13:19] <neo> Is it ok to ask my last question here or should I ask it in some multimedia forum/chatroom?
[13:19] <nosrednaekim> !hardware| neo great :D now look that up on this page
[13:19] <ubotu> neo great :D now look that up on this page: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[13:19] <neo> ok thanks
[13:21] <RobertoM> I have a question about kbluetooth
[13:22] <RobertoM> Namely: kbtobexsrv is NOT included in the deb
[13:22] <RobertoM> so I can't send file from phones to PC or back
[13:22] <RobertoM> Is there hope for a fix, since the bug is fixed for Hardy?
[13:23] <nosrednaekim> RobertoM: thats weird, ask on #kubuntu-devel
[13:23] <RobertoM> ok, thanks!
[13:26] <andrea__> ciao
[13:26] <nosrednaekim> RobertoM: you could probably always use the hardy deb...
[13:26] <Sulo_Seppa> smoke time
[13:27] <RobertoM> I tried: there's a dependency on kdelibs that would hose the system I think
[13:28] <RobertoM> Actually, I just compiled kbluetooth and installed the missing dir with a sudo make install in the kbtobexsrv directory
[13:28] <RobertoM> But since I have many computer to fix, I'd like a new deb in the repos
[13:29] <nosrednaekim> RobertoM: yeah, if no-one is answeing in -devel, file a bug.
[13:29] <RobertoM> Already done ^^'
[13:29] <RobertoM> And it's "fixed in new version"
[13:29] <nosrednaekim> how long ago?
[13:29] <lg188__> ... boring studying
[13:29] <nosrednaekim> thats helpful..... not.
[13:30] <RobertoM> It was already open when I tried to file it
[13:30] <RobertoM> And there was also the "fix" for Hardy
[13:30] <RobertoM> I was wondering why it wasn't backported, since the original package works, and it's a deb packaging error from what I can understand from the bug
[13:31] <RobertoM> I know zero of deb packaging
[13:31] <bjwebb> Xorg is using a lot of cpue
[13:31] <bjwebb> but only when i open firefox
[13:31] <nosrednaekim> RobertoM: yeah, well, hang around and you should get an answer sooner or later on #kubuntu devel
[13:32] <nosrednaekim> bjwebb: compiz?
[13:32] <bjwebb> nosrednaekim: no
[13:32] <RobertoM> Ok, thanks :-)
[13:32] <bjwebb> although i have been having trouble with that recently too
[13:33] <bjwebb> i updated some stuff recently
[13:33] <bjwebb> can i get apt to tell me what?
[13:34] <nosrednaekim> I think there is a dpkg log.
[13:34] <nosrednaekim> in /var/log
[13:34] <bjwebb> thanks
[13:35] <bjwebb> dpkg.log dpkg.log.1 dpkg.log.2.gz dpkg.log.3.gz
[13:35] <bjwebb> which one :S
[13:35] <nosrednaekim> try the first
[13:35] <nosrednaekim> it should have times.
[13:35] <bjwebb> yeah
[13:35] <nosrednaekim>  ordates
[13:36] <Jucato> ls -l will tell which is the most recent
[13:36] <nosrednaekim> heya Jucato
[13:37] <Jucato> heya
[13:38] <lg188__> hey nosrednaekim
[13:39] <nosrednaekim> hello lg188__
[13:39] <bjwebb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47362/
[13:39] <bjwebb> could any of them affect xorg & firefox?
[13:39] <lg188__> i heat studying and my mother is asking the hole time to study
[13:40] <lg188__> nosrednaekim:  is all goin well ?
[13:41] <nosrednaekim> yup
[13:41] <bjwebb> nosrednaekim: any ideas
[13:42] <nosrednaekim> bjwebb: lol, no clue.
[13:42] <bjwebb> okay
[13:44] <tekteen> anyone know what to do if X.ORG gives you the message "can not find any screens"
[13:45] <CheGuevara3> tekteen, there should be more errors just before it says that
[13:46] <tekteen> CheGuevara3: there as other debug info
[13:46] <CheGuevara3> Xorg.0.log would be nice
[13:46] <tekteen> I over wrote it with the new install. :-D
[13:46] <tekteen> that was domb
[13:46] <RobertoM> tekteen: the most common cause is a problem with monitor detection or between its resolution and the maximum monitor resolution
[13:47] <tekteen> RobertoM: thanks
[13:47] <tekteen> I had already set the monitor to the correct resolution during install.
[13:48] <tekteen> I am going to see if I sill have the problem after this try.
[13:48] <RobertoM> so it worked during install... hmmm... does your pc have 2 video cards, as in, one embedded on the motherboard and the other on a bus?
[13:48] <tekteen> I am using the live installer instead of alternate
[13:48] <tekteen> RobertoM: no I use the alt cd :-)
[13:49] <tekteen> I am trying the live one in "Safe Graphics Mode"
[13:49] <RobertoM> ok :-)
[13:50] <tekteen> It is at 64%
[13:50] <sigma> well guys unfortunately i had to go back to firefox because konq just ain't cutting it
[13:50] <tekteen> sigma: unfortunately?
[13:50] <CheGuevara3> :P
[13:51] <sigma> tekteen: yup konq did offer some added advantages
[13:51] <tekteen> sigma: I only use konq for files
[13:52] <RobertoM> advantages like a multithreaded javascript engine :-)
[13:55] <Tm_T> RobertoM_[away]: nooooo
[13:55] <RobertoM_[away]> O_o
[13:55] <Tm_T> !away | RobertoM_[away]
[13:55] <ubotu> RobertoM_[away]: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[13:55] <RobertoM_[away]> ops sorry ^^'
[13:55] <Tm_T> np now you know ;)
[13:58] <N1ghtm4r3> back
[13:59] <N1ghtm4r3> anyone on?
[13:59] <N1ghtm4r3> pag ?
[13:59] <N1ghtm4r3> .. i dont remember the nickname of the other guy
[14:02] <sigma> yup what do u need?
[14:02] <N1ghtm4r3> nvm lol
[14:02] <N1ghtm4r3> thanks anyway
[14:02] <N1ghtm4r3> gota go to bed now
[14:02] <N1ghtm4r3> been up for more than 24 hours
[14:02] <nosrednaekim> me?
[14:02] <N1ghtm4r3> no
[14:02] <N1ghtm4r3> Sulo_seppa
[14:02] <nosrednaekim> its early!
[14:03] <N1ghtm4r3> bye bye everybody lol its 9am now and didnt sleep yet
[14:03] <nosrednaekim> lol
[14:03] <nosrednaekim> bye
[14:13] <lowden28> Hoi evrybody who can i instal QJacttl with the console - sudo apt-get qjackctl ?
[14:13] <stdin> lowden28: "sudo apt-get install qjackctl"
[14:15] <lowden28> stdin: thanks for your commandline help
[14:24] <molchy> HI
[14:35] <tekteen> Hey everybody. I am trying to change the resolution on my laptop using the guide on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto. how do I find the horizontal sync frequency and the vertical refresh rate?
[14:38] <CheGuevara3> tekteen, are u sure they are not auto etected fine?
[14:38] <tekteen> CheGuevara3: yes
[14:39] <ubuntu> Hi all. I'm installing Ubuntu from the alternate disc, and it got far, but it has stopped saying "Please put the disk with label "Ubuntu_7.10_Gutsy_Gibbon_  - Release i386" in station "/dev/cdrom" and press enter". But... it's already in there, and i can't eject the disk to put it in another drive. Can anyone help me?
[14:39] <CheGuevara3> what display driver?
[14:39] <llutz> tekteen: set Vertrefresh to 56-60
[14:39] <stdin> tekteen: you have to look at the manual that came with it, or google
[14:39] <tekteen> ok
[14:39] <tekteen> I tried calling HP
[14:40] <tekteen> they had no idea what I was talking about
[14:41] <tekteen> They understood I installed a new OS but at the same time asked me to open something in vista :-D
[14:41] <llutz> tekteen: that's why they don't sell laptops with HP/ux :)
[14:41] <CheGuevara3> tekteen, what video card make?
[14:42] <ksal> tekteen: laptop uses an LCD. it doesn't need refresh
[14:42] <tekteen> ij
[14:42] <ksal> you can # those lines in your xorg.conf
[14:42] <tekteen> ok
[14:42] <tekteen> ij is to the right of ok
[14:42] <tekteen> :-D
[14:43] <tekteen> does it need horizontal sync frequency
[14:43] <tekteen> ?
[14:43] <ksal> i could not set 1280x1024 resolution on my new LCD because of refresh lines in xorg.conf, so i commented them and it works now
[14:43] <ksal> i don't think so
[14:44] <ksal> comment it
[14:44] <tekteen> ok
[14:44] <ksal> anyway, nothing gonna break.
[14:44] <ksal> nothing is*
[14:44] <tekteen> then all I need to do is change the res.
[14:45] <ksal> if you won't be able to run X then you'll just launch rescue mode and in text mode you'll change those lines again
[14:45] <ksal> tekteen: yeah, but first reset X server
[14:46] <tekteen> ok
[14:46] <ksal> ctrl+alt+backspace will take care of that, if you're new.
[14:46] <tekteen> I have played with x before
[14:46] <ksal> uh-huh :)
[14:46] <tekteen> mostly getting 3D to work in 7.04
[14:46] <ksal> had fun? :P
[14:47] <ksal> i'm new on kubuntu, i installed GG 3 weeks ago, and i'm quite impressed
[14:48] <ksal> i was using fedora to that time
[14:48] <ksal> tekteen: good luck, i'm going. bye
[14:50] <tekteen> bye
[15:00] <tekteen> My computer works!
[15:04] <kubuntu> dae galera
[15:04] <kubuntu> algum brasileiro?
[15:05] <kubuntu> someone brazilian?
[15:06] <kubuntu> hello
[15:06] <Jucato> !br | kubuntu
[15:06] <ubotu> kubuntu: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[15:06] <lg188> alia jacta est
[15:07] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[15:07] <Jucato> h
[15:07] <Jucato> hi
[15:08] <BluesKaj> hi Jucato , how's things this morn ?
[15:08] <Jucato> Sat Dec  8 23:08:34 PHT 2007
[15:09] <BluesKaj> oops, was out by 26mins :)
[15:10] <Jucato> :D
[15:10] <Jucato> more like an hour
[15:10] <BluesKaj> 08/12/07 10:09 am EST
[15:10] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:11] <BluesKaj> just woke up ,on my first coffee, eyes aren't focussing too well
[15:12]  * Jucato does a genii
[15:13] <BluesKaj> was up til 3am fixing up some photo albums to go to the photolab before christmas
[15:14]  * BluesKaj is learning the Gimp, slowly but surely
[15:14] <Jucato> :D
[15:14] <Jucato> good luck :)
[15:14]  * Jucato slept at 3am, woke up at 7am... :)
[15:15] <BluesKaj> yer young, you can handle it :)
[15:19]  * Jucato looks at the calendar and doubts that...
[15:36] <lg188> ?? did any body said to me a was a long time not active by helping a history teacher with his site
[15:37] <BluesKaj> lg188, perhaps a german chat would suit your question ...
[15:37] <BluesKaj> !de | lg188
[15:37] <ubotu> lg188: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[15:53] <sourcemaker> how can I install the kernel 2.6.23? Is this version in repos?
[15:58] <lg188> BluesKaj: no German but Dutch ,...and the Dutch say anything only if it is to block someone
[16:01] <BluesKaj> lg188, perhaps you could rephrase the question. It is very difficult to understand the meaning.
[16:02] <xaxe> #motril
[16:03] <BluesKaj> lg188, sorry , .be means belgium not Deutsch
[16:04] <BluesKaj> !be | lg188
[16:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about be - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:04] <lg188> BluesKaj:  yep
[16:05] <SGL> lg, what's your problem?
[16:05] <lg188> BluesKaj:  i wiil not say athing by now
[16:05] <lg188> SGL: nothing
[16:05] <SGL> Ah ok
[16:05] <lg188> is there going a fake CNN mail going around ?
[16:06] <lg188> owh by i need to go
[16:06] <lg188> sleep well :)
[16:06] <SGL> No idea
[16:06] <SGL> bye
[16:08] <xchat> hi
[16:08] <xchat> in kde how do I get to root to install flashplayer?
[16:09] <SGL> uh
[16:09] <SGL> sudo?
[16:10] <SGL> I take it you're pretty new to kubuntu?
[16:10] <SGL> xchat, add sudo in front of any command you want to run as root
[16:11] <BluesKaj> xchat, use adept with permission is the best bet
[16:11] <ShawnRisk> how do I restart this distro when it crashes on my MAC?
[16:12] <SGL> yeh
[16:12] <SGL> xchat: sudo aptitude install flashplayer-mozilla
[16:12] <grul> !anything
[16:12] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[16:12] <xchat> how can I access the root priv.
[16:12] <grul> !love
[16:12] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[16:13] <SGL> priv.?
[16:13] <grul> !ntfs
[16:13] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[16:13] <nosrednaekim> lol
[16:13] <xchat> privledges
[16:13] <nalioth> !root | xchat
[16:13] <ubotu> xchat: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[16:13] <SGL> grul, do you mind?
[16:13] <grul> SGL, yes
[16:13] <nalioth> xchat: #ubuntu-ops is not a support channel.  :)
[16:13] <nosrednaekim> !hate
[16:13] <ubotu> hate is a thing we don't encourage - why waste your energy
[16:13] <hydrogen> !botabuse
[16:13] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[16:14] <xchat> but my terminal doesn't change to root
[16:14] <ShawnRisk> anyone know?
[16:14] <martijn81> anyone else not able to login @msn on  kopete? gaim seems to still work here
[16:14] <nosrednaekim> xchat: use sudo-i then
[16:15] <nosrednaekim> martijn81: get all updates and that should be fixed
[16:15] <xchat> thankyou
[16:15] <martijn81> nosrednaekim: nope
[16:15] <SGL> I heard there were problems with MSN yesterday on live messenger too
[16:16] <ShawnRisk> how do I restart this distro when this crashes on my MAC?
[16:16] <martijn81> nosrednaekim: sorry, it already works
[16:16] <SGL> ShawnRisk, "sudo restart now"?
[16:16] <nosrednaekim> martijn81: what?
[16:17] <BluesKaj> yes SGL, MS is trying to patch it on windows , but dunno how it affects IM's on linux
[16:17] <SGL> Ah k. No clues
[16:17] <martijn81> nosrednaekim: i got it working again, it almost like they have a nicer value in place which places their own msn client at first in line
[16:17] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: known M$.....adversely
[16:17] <nosrednaekim> martijn81: no kiddin XD
[16:19] <ShawnRisk> SGL:  The screen is messed up I can't see anything, I just want a shortcut key to restart
[16:19] <SGL> ShawnRisk, I don't know what you did then. When did it crash?
[16:19] <BluesKaj> kopete runs usable versions of MSN
[16:19] <SGL> ShawnRisk, and can't you simply ress reset?
[16:19] <SGL> *press
[16:19] <ShawnRisk> SGL:  I am using a VM
[16:19] <SGL> ah ok. I didn't know that
[16:20] <SGL> You can use CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE
[16:20] <ShawnRisk> and also I jut logged in and the screen is bad, it isn't crashed, just I can't do anything need to fix the monitor.
[16:20] <SGL> CTRL, Alt, Backspace usually resets your X session
[16:21] <Jeroi> hello
[16:21] <SGL> So if it all goes well you'll get your loginscreen again
[16:21] <Jeroi> 2 questions
[16:21] <Jeroi> 1. how to enable alsa spdif permanently in reboot?
[16:21] <nosrednaekim> Jeroi: shoot
[16:21] <Jeroi> I have to edit alsamixer now always when I reboot kubuntu
[16:22] <Jeroi> so that spdif-out works
[16:22] <nosrednaekim> crimsun: our dear alsa guy.,.... got any clue on that?
[16:23] <raph> hi, i have a little wheel to control the sound volume on my laptop (aspire 5920g). Two Problems: 1) If I rotate the wheel i can only change the volume from 0% to 11% (just two different states) 2) changing the volume like this doesn't have any effect :(
[16:23] <nosrednaekim> Jeroi: I'm not good with sound... next questio?
[16:23] <Jeroi> 2. Is there proper help for getting nivida-glx work with 2 monitors: 17" analog and 786p hd lcd
[16:23] <nosrednaekim> pag: yeah... nasty bug....
[16:23] <nosrednaekim> raph: ^^
[16:23] <nosrednaekim> wong name
[16:23] <Jeroi> or
[16:24] <Jeroi> I need real script for xorg
[16:24] <Jeroi> the best way would be not clone analog monitor
[16:24] <nosrednaekim> Jeroi: its possible, thats all I know, i've never messedwith multiple monitors wither
[16:24] <ShawnRisk> SGL: that worked, but now I need to fix the monitor
[16:24] <Jeroi> but widnows "extend"
[16:24] <Jeroi> well
[16:24] <SGL> ok ShawnRisk, I have no clue about running VM. Never have done that myself.
[16:25] <Jeroi> I am keen to have my lcd tv hooked with kubuntu
[16:25] <Jeroi> as we watch all the movies trough lcd tv
[16:25] <Jeroi> from my pc
[16:25] <ShawnRisk> SGL: I am trying to fix the monitor settings in this distro
[16:26] <nosrednaekim> !twinview
[16:26] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[16:26] <nosrednaekim> !dualhead
[16:26] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[16:30] <crimsun> Jeroi: / raph: need more info.
[16:31] <nosrednaekim> its Jeroi...
[16:32] <raph> is there a way to (re)configure my laptop (special) keys?
[16:33] <nosrednaekim> !hotkeys
[16:33] <ubotu> keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[16:35] <BluesKaj> Jeroi, #Setting spdif out on alsa:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47404/
[16:39] <tarin> was something wrong with the channel last night?
[16:40] <BluesKaj> how do you mean tarin ?
[16:40] <tarin> i tried for an hour last night ot get on and it never would
[16:41] <nosrednaekim> mebe you were manned
[16:41] <nosrednaekim> *banned
[16:41] <nosrednaekim> or maybe someone banned a block of IPs
[16:41] <tarin> ahhhh
[16:41] <tarin> well i still cant get my internet in gutsy to work?
[16:42] <tarin> anyone have ny new suggestions?
[16:43] <vzduch> tarin: [2007-12-07 06:20:19] -christel(i=christel@freenode/staff/gentoo.christel)- [Global Notice] Hi all! One of our sponsors experienced a rather large ddos attack just now, which in turn caused disturbance on the network. As a result that leaf server is not accepting client connections atm. Apologies for the inconvenience and have a good day.
[16:47] <tarin> how do you uninstall and reinstall devices?
[16:47] <nosrednaekim> like what types of devices?
[16:47] <tarin> eth
[16:47] <tarin> i think thats the only thing i havent done
[16:48] <tarin> my pc is not seeing my router
[16:48] <nosrednaekim> modprobe andun-modprobe
[16:48] <elisiano> tarin, did u try to see if mii-tool detects link?
[16:48] <tarin> even if i static asign the ip i cant ping my router gateway
[16:48] <tarin> nope hadnt heard of that
[16:48] <elisiano> try that on a terminal
[16:49] <elisiano> with the root account or using sudo
[16:49] <tarin> eth0 link ok
[16:50] <elisiano> so the cable is connected correctly to the router
[16:50] <tarin> yup
[16:50] <elisiano> has your outer a dhcp activated?
[16:50] <elisiano> router*
[16:50] <tarin> yes dhcp is active
[16:50] <tarin> if i boot to windows everything works great
[16:50] <elisiano> :O
[16:51] <tarin> yes i am dual booting lol
[16:51] <tarin> if i can gget this to work i will be removing windows tho
[16:51] <elisiano> mumble...mumble... just a silly question: is your eth configured to get a dynamic ip?
[16:51] <tarin> yeah
[16:52] <tarin> i am actually a net admin
[16:52] <tarin> thats why this is bugging me so bad
[16:52] <elisiano> who isn't? :D
[16:52] <tarin> this all started when i upgraded to gutsy
[16:52] <tarin> everything worked great in festy
[16:52] <tarin> *feisty
[16:53] <elisiano> can u paste from that pc or u have to rewrite everything by hand?
[16:53] <elisiano> i guess u have to rewrtie
[16:53] <tarin> yup
[16:53] <tarin> not a big deal tho what do you need
[16:54] <elisiano> double check that's automatic
[16:54] <tarin> thru knetworkmanager?
[16:54] <elisiano> is there a stanza where it says something like "auto eth0" in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[16:55] <elisiano> I don't use graphical interfaces to setup the system, sorry
[16:55] <Jabapyth> How do i run a program on startup _with root permissions_?
[16:56] <nosrednaekim> !init
[16:56] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[16:56] <tarin> no thats cool i would rather learn thru console and yes its there
[16:56] <tarin> right under the loopback stanza
[16:56] <Jabapyth> thanks nosrednaekim
[16:56] <elisiano> try bringing it down and then up again
[16:56] <elisiano> ifdown eth0
[16:56] <elisiano> ifup eth0
[16:57] <tarin> done that a hundred times but will do it again one sec
[16:58] <tarin> no DHCPOFFERS
[16:59] <tarin> no working leases
[16:59] <elisiano> that's odd... if u say that in windows it works I guess it's some driver issue... which network card is it?
[16:59] <tarin> realtek
[16:59] <tarin> on board
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> 8139?
[17:00] <elisiano> dows it use 8139too module?
[17:00] <tarin> yup
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> wierd! thats the most widely used Ethernet chipset.
[17:01] <tarin> yeah i know
[17:01] <elisiano> I had a similar issue... it solved by plugging out from the pci and then in again
[17:01] <tarin> aside from a via
[17:01] <elisiano> but if it's on board it's a different issue
[17:01] <nosrednaekim> and intel.
[17:01] <tarin> yeah thats why i want to try uninstall and reinstall
[17:02] <tarin> thought it might help
[17:02] <nosrednaekim> tarin: is this an upgraded install?
[17:02] <tarin> yup from feisty
[17:02] <tarin> everything worked great before
[17:02] <nosrednaekim> tarin: and you still boot the fiesty kernel?
[17:02] <nosrednaekim> *can
[17:02] <tarin> nope
[17:03] <tarin> unless there is a way i dont know about
[17:03] <elisiano> right, u could try to boot an older kernel
[17:03] <tarin> at boot it gives me 6 options all of which are 7.10.xx
[17:03] <EternalNyt> If Anyone Has this Package {KDE Priority handler} Complied and Ready For install let Me Know
[17:03] <EternalNyt> Thanks
[17:03] <tarin> and my xp
[17:04] <nosrednaekim> tarin: you sure they are all Gutsy? no 2.6.19 kernels?
[17:04] <tarin> but if i boot to anything but the first option it doesnt load the desktop
[17:04] <tarin> lemme reboot and check
[17:04] <nosrednaekim> tarin: probably graphics driver issues
[17:04] <elisiano> grep ^title /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:04] <nosrednaekim> tarin: which can be easily mended
[17:04] <elisiano> see which kernel versions u have
[17:05] <nosrednaekim> that works XD
[17:05] <EternalNyt> Has Anybody Tried the KDE Priority Handler ??
[17:06] <tarin> haha they all say 7.10 kernel 2.6.22 or 2.6.20
[17:06] <elisiano> u could try booting 2.6.20
[17:06] <elisiano> that was from feisty
[17:07] <BluesKaj> tarin, just a suggestion , but is your ethernetcard/dhcp/eth0 being recognized ? ..try lspci
[17:07] <elisiano> BluesKaj: it is since mii-tool recognize the device
[17:07] <BluesKaj> ok
[17:07] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: it is.... because he has a eht0
[17:07] <tarin> i have 2 one listed 16 the other 15
[17:08] <nosrednaekim> *eth0
[17:08] <tarin> which should i boot to
[17:08] <elisiano> ò_O`
[17:08] <BluesKaj> right, i should have scrolled back , now i'm up to speed (i think)
[17:08] <nosrednaekim> 16
[17:08] <tarin> lol
[17:08] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: haha
[17:09] <BluesKaj> odd, that the router isn't seen
[17:10] <tarin> do any of you have experience with dd-wrt firmware for routers?
[17:10] <BluesKaj> no
[17:10] <nosrednaekim> come to think of it.... OpenSuse did the same thing to my 8139...
[17:10] <bazhang> I suspect the router
[17:10] <nosrednaekim> tarin: only OpenWRT... and I don't really have experience with it... we just use iot
[17:11] <BluesKaj> tarin, do you use the browser addressbar to make changes like port forwarding etc in the router ?
[17:11] <tarin> you mean to get ot the router gui? yes i do
[17:11] <tarin> but from gutsy i cant get to it
[17:12] <BluesKaj> for ex , i type in "mynetwork" in any browser to open the a dialog with the router settings
[17:12] <tarin> wow this takes forever to boot
[17:12] <wladek> hi.  i'm running kubuntu 7.10.  i tried running the nvidia closed source driver by enabling it in the 'restricted drivers' section of my system settings, but i was getting unstable behaviour (black screen flashes and hangs).  so because i have a pretty new nvidia card i downloaded and installed the driver directly from nvidia's website.  everything seemed to go well but now i can't run nvidia-settings because the driver in 'restric
[17:12] <wladek> ted drivers' is not enabled
[17:12] <wladek> but i get the nvidia splash screen when i start up x server, so i assume it's running
[17:13] <EternalNyt> getting in lag on video's
[17:13] <nosrednaekim> wladek: yeah. the nvidia settings is probably conflicting.
[17:13] <tarin> blueskaj: yes i type the router ip <IP_ADDRESS> to get into the settings
[17:14] <BluesKaj> wladek, dunno about nvidia, but the old drivers should usually be uninstalled before installing a new one
[17:14] <oem> hello
[17:14] <tarin> i agree
[17:15] <nosrednaekim> tarin: tried booting one of those kernels?
[17:15] <nosrednaekim> hey oem
[17:15] <wladek> ok.. can i remove the old ones through the adept package manager or do i have to go about removing stuff manually?
[17:15] <oem> does anybody know where i can get a latex 2e for kubuntu?
[17:15] <tarin> still trying
[17:15] <nosrednaekim> wladek: just remove them from adept
[17:15] <tarin> it has stopped on not loading blacklisted module ipv6
[17:15] <nosrednaekim> wladek: should be "nvidia-glx"
[17:15] <jhutchins> !info latex
[17:15] <ubotu> Package latex does not exist in gutsy
[17:15] <jhutchins> !find latex
[17:16] <ubotu> Found: auctex, dblatex, latex-beamer, latex-ucs, latex-ucs-contrib (and 55 others)
[17:16] <wladek> ok
[17:17] <nosrednaekim> tarin: humm, try pressing ctrl+c
[17:17] <elisiano> tarin: in the kernel that takes forever to boot u should leave the options "quiet spash" in the grub configuration, so u can actually see what's going on
[17:17] <elisiano> sometimes it helps adding irqpoll to the line
[17:17] <wladek> brb
[17:17] <nosrednaekim> elisiano: you mean remove?
[17:17] <oem> i have already installed them.... but there's not yet a latex editor
[17:18] <tarin> did control c now im just sitting @ a prompt
[17:18] <elisiano> yes sorry
[17:18] <nosrednaekim> tarin: ok.... login
[17:18] <nosrednaekim> and run "sudo dhclient eth0"
[17:19] <tarin> elisiano: how do i add that stuff to the boot
[17:19] <tarin> and still no dchpoffers
[17:20] <elisiano> 2 ways: editing the line at runtime or editing /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:20] <tarin> ok
[17:20] <nosrednaekim> tarin: yeesh.., thats weird!
[17:21] <tarin> also just did ifdonw ifup same result
[17:21] <nosrednaekim> tarin: you got any LiveCds around?
[17:21] <tarin> i have one for feisty
[17:21] <tarin> still waiting on my gutsy disks in the mail
[17:21] <nosrednaekim> tarin: try booting it up.
[17:21] <tarin> ok
[17:21] <elisiano> nosrednaekim: he said that with feisty all worked
[17:22] <nosrednaekim> elisiano: yup.... but the fiesty kernel didn't.
[17:22] <nosrednaekim> tarin: hey wait... you blacklisted ipv6?
[17:22] <tarin> i guess
[17:22] <tarin> it was a fix i found on the net
[17:23] <nosrednaekim> tarin: unblacklist that.... could be the problem
[17:23] <tarin> so dont boot to the cd then?
[17:23] <nosrednaekim> tarin: oh... it was not working before you put that in there?
[17:23] <tarin> nope
[17:24] <BluesKaj> i have ipv6 disabled and blacklisted but it doesn't seem to make much difference lately ,the konq browser is still pretty slow :(
[17:24] <tarin> ok booting to cd
[17:24] <nosrednaekim> tarin: ok... boot the cd then
[17:27] <sam64> the kubuntu page says there's something goin on in the "#kubuntu-devel" channel, but when I try to go there it says name lookup failed..
[17:28] <sam64> nevermind.. it works now
[17:28] <nosrednaekim> sam64: thats not right now..
[17:28] <nosrednaekim> this thursday
[17:28] <tarin> ok im in and it is recognizing an active connection on eth0
[17:29] <tarin> but i cant browse the net
[17:29] <tarin> wont bring up google
[17:29] <elisiano> :|
[17:29] <nosrednaekim> tarin: try pinging <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:29] <EternalNyt> question ? I have tried using Kompile and comes up with Error Findin X lib.  any help would be nice
[17:29] <tarin> im getting a 169.254 ip
[17:30] <nosrednaekim> tarin: thats a bogus IP..
[17:30] <elisiano> 169.254? with linux?
[17:30] <tarin> yup
[17:30] <EternalNyt> during a compilation from a .tar.gz
[17:30] <elisiano> :O
[17:30] <nosrednaekim> looks like some thing is messed up with the Hardware..
[17:30] <elisiano> yeah
[17:31] <nosrednaekim> tarin: is it a desktop or a notebook?
[17:32] <sam64> nosrednaekim: I thought 07 on my clock was the year.. I should fix that
[17:32] <tarin> home built desktop
[17:32] <ihadgentoo> does my pupil size matter? and does grammar matter? if so how much (grammar)?
[17:32] <sigma_> finally i found a browser that integrates properly into kde! and has all my features!
[17:33] <Xcell> ya
[17:33] <nosrednaekim> sigma_: what is it?
[17:33] <sam64> Firefox?
[17:33] <nosrednaekim> tarin: so, do you have any network cards around?
[17:33] <sigma_> its called flock, based on firefox but they reworked the things that matter ie: the theme!
[17:33] <Xcell> Stand by deu..brb.
[17:34] <tarin> no i dont
[17:34] <tarin> i thought i did but if i do i cant find the d*** thing
[17:34] <sam64> oh, I thought you said poorly. Ill have to check that out. Firefox2 addons wont work with Firefox3, which also works good in KDE
[17:35] <sigma_> u have to disable quite a bit because its designed for teenagers but the main menus work perfectly
[17:35] <elisiano> sigma_: I'm using flock from a long time, but id dowsn't integrates any better than firefox in kde
[17:35] <elisiano> doesn't*
[17:35] <deuryte> xcell, did i here u rite?  stop everything im doin and bring my mach over???
[17:35] <tarin> ok so how do i unistall the net card and reinstall it?
[17:36] <Xcell> Momma aint here..but if ya want to.
[17:36] <elisiano> tarin: u told it is on board... is it a pci or integrated?
[17:36] <tarin> integrated
[17:36] <elisiano> so how would u reinstall it?
[17:36] <tarin> but i was hoping like windows i could unistall it from the os
[17:36] <tarin> and reisntall
[17:37] <elisiano> mmm nope
[17:37] <tarin> damn
[17:37] <elisiano> u can remove the kernel module
[17:37] <elisiano> and then reload it
[17:37] <nosrednaekim> tarin: nah... its part of the kernel
[17:37] <nosrednaekim> elisiano: thats really not going to do a bit of good.
[17:37] <elisiano> if u doo "rmmod 8139too" u shouldn't see eth0 anymore
[17:37] <Dr_willis> the way windows handles drivers.. and how linux handles 'drivers' are  like the north and south poles. :)
[17:37] <tarin> lol
[17:37] <elisiano> then modprobe 8139too
[17:37] <sigma_> elisiano: i just wanted a decent theme, dont really care about the other stuff, thats why it works for me
[17:37]  * Dr_willis needs a better analogy
[17:38] <tarin> i thought that was a good analogy
[17:38] <Dr_willis> Theres lots of themes out for firefox.  Depends on your needs i guess. :)
[17:38] <Dr_willis> tarin,  :) both are cold and nasty places.. where few men dare to tread...
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis: are like the dark side of the moon and the light side of the moon?
[17:38] <tarin> hahahahaha
[17:38] <Dr_willis> Only one has nice cute penguins.. and the other has Nasty Polar Bears.
[17:38] <sigma_> dr_willis: they all had problems for me or didn't look good enough
[17:39] <tarin> lol
[17:39] <Dr_willis> sigma_,  sounds like you need to just go make your own if you are that picky.
[17:39] <Dr_willis> :)
[17:39] <ihadgentoo> any of you know david deangelo allan pease (tv show 1987) ? and what is your opinion about him? thank you
[17:39] <EternalNyt> How about KDE priority Handler
[17:39] <Dr_willis> I though flock was in the repos.. lets see
[17:39] <tarin> im gonna have to see if i can find that card
[17:39] <bazhang> oy
[17:39] <Dr_willis> !find flock
[17:39] <sigma_> dr_willis: lol too much of a mission! but i like the flock one
[17:39] <nosrednaekim> don't think so.
[17:39] <ubotu> File flock found in tclx8.3, util-linux
[17:39] <EternalNyt> anybody using the Program
[17:40] <sigma_> its not in the repo's, at least i dont think it is
[17:40] <tarin> brb afk
[17:40] <elisiano> Dr_willis: it's not packaged
[17:40] <sigma_> but its easy to download and use, just unzip and click the flock executable
[17:40] <sigma_> has the same dep's as firefox
[17:41] <deuryte> xcell, 64bit aint out yet!!
[17:41] <elisiano> yeah but to integrate that a lttle better, copy the .desktop from firefox an adjust it with the right path and executable
[17:41] <Xcell> Yes it is.
[17:42] <deuryte> kde?? 64bit?? now??  today?? really??
[17:42] <sigma_> theres just one feature it doesn't have - the "ubuntu package search engine" does anyone know where i can download it?
[17:42] <Xcell> ya
[17:42] <deuryte> didnt u tell me last time it wasnt??
[17:42] <Xcell> I have resources.
[17:42] <Dr_willis> I did just google and find the flock theme for firefox
[17:43] <Xcell> Want me to burn?
[17:43] <deuryte> i'll ask radio. hell tell me. radioooooooooooo
[17:43] <EternalNyt>  ~X(
[17:43] <bazhang> deuryte: please stop
[17:43] <deuryte> yes, turn or burn
[17:44] <deuryte> burn it , ill be rite over
[17:44] <Xcell> bye..Cmon over...back door.
[17:44] <sigma_> o i thought u wouldn't be able to find just the theme
[17:44] <Dr_willis> sigma_,  google to the rescue. :) took me 20 sec.
[17:44] <Dr_willis> I couldent find it at the firefox theme site however.. their search engine.. seems broken
[17:45] <Dr_willis> now i got purtyier buttons.. wow. :)
[17:45] <sigma_> i thought it would be copyrighted
[17:45]  * Dr_willis wishes that some day firefox could change themes with OUT needing to be restarted.
[17:45] <Dr_willis> sigma_,  it may be. no idea.
[17:45] <EternalNyt> lol
[17:45] <Zabulus> perhaps someone could help me with problem, kubunty feisty, laser mouse stops working after a various amount of time.
[17:46] <sigma_> lol
[17:46] <nosrednaekim> Za
[17:46] <deuryte> bazhang>	deuryte: please stop... stop what???
[17:46] <elisiano> Zabulus: is it the same amount of time that u wait before u unplug it?
[17:46] <nosrednaekim> Zabulus: does unplugging it and plugging it back in help?
[17:46] <elisiano> :D
[17:46] <EternalNyt> so has anyone played with KDE
[17:47] <nosrednaekim> EternalNyt: of course..
[17:47] <[ifr0g]> EternalNyt, How do you do that ?
[17:47] <Zabulus> nosrednaekim: nope, unfortunately not
[17:47] <sigma_> EternalNyt: considering we all use it i think we have
[17:47] <sigma_> :)
[17:47] <bazhang> haha
[17:47] <Zabulus> nosrednaekim: which is a pain to find out, have to crawl behind my desk to do so
[17:48] <EternalNyt> How about KDE priority handler?
[17:48] <deuryte> bazhang>	please stop!!!
[17:48] <sigma_> so no one knows where i can download that search engine from?
[17:48] <Zabulus> dl a search engine???
[17:49] <sigma_> zabulus: ya the ubuntu package one for firefox
[17:49] <sam64> Zabulus: stupid question - is there a piece of hair on the eye? I had that happen once and it made the mouse act funky
[17:49] <Dr_willis> sigma_,  the firefox add on web site has a search feature, then i just used google.
[17:49] <Zabulus> sam64: nope, the mouse is working fine right now(win xp)
[17:50] <sigma_> Dr_willis: i went to the mozilla page, it didnt have it
[17:50] <ihadgentoo> i got banned from #ubuntu
[17:50] <Dr_willis> sigma_,  thats why i used google. :)
[17:50] <sigma_> Dr_willis: can u give me the link?
[17:50] <Xcell> momma just showed up.
[17:50] <bazhang> sigma_: you can also add a search for ubuntu packages and launchpad in firefox
[17:50] <sigma_> ihadgentoo: how did u manage that?
[17:51] <bazhang> spamming
[17:51]  * Dr_willis goes back to the default firefox theme.. it looks much nicer i think then the others.
[17:51] <Dr_willis> !find firefox
[17:51] <sigma_> bazhang: but where do i download them from?
[17:51] <ubotu> Found: firefox-themes-ubuntu, mozilla-firefox-locale-af, mozilla-firefox-locale-ar, mozilla-firefox-locale-be, mozilla-firefox-locale-bg-bg (and 71 others)
[17:51] <Dr_willis> theres a firefox plugin package i thought..
[17:51] <Dr_willis> under the  addons menu item/tab theres a link also
[17:51] <bazhang> sigma_: you running firefox now? then click addons, and then choose get extensions
[17:52] <bazhang> sigma_: oopsie--from the repos--
[17:52] <sigma_> bazhang: but how would i make it work with flock?
[17:53] <tarin> ok i found a net card
[17:53] <bazhang> firefox-launchpad-plugin sigma
[17:53] <sam64> well Im gonna go unleash my artistic fury on the Christmas tree
[17:53] <zibrah3ed> #flock my be able to help you
[17:53] <sam64> later peeps
[17:53] <nosrednaekim> tarin: yay!
[17:53] <tarin> w00t
[17:53] <Dr_willis> ive found that with most of the firefox-spinoffs like flock/songbird/miro (i think miro) you can just download whatever theme/extensions ya like and load them
[17:53]  * nosrednaekim hopes it not a broadcom
[17:53] <tarin> lol
[17:53] <bazhang> yes!
[17:53] <bazhang> haha
[17:53] <tarin> no intel
[17:53] <Dr_willis> I had to tweak Songbird a bit.
[17:54] <bazhang> intel =for sure
[17:54] <tarin> i hope
 just by typing and talking on topic or off topic :S
[17:54] <Zabulus> did gutsy fix any problems with recognizing usb mice?
[17:54] <tarin> glad i had an old server layin around
[17:55] <crimsun> Zabulus: depends on the ID of the usb mice.
[17:55] <tarin> i use a wireless and have no prob
[17:55] <bazhang> Zabulus: which mouse?
[17:55] <zibrah3ed> sigma_: sorry wrong server: from website f you want instant communication join us on our IRC server irc.flock.com in the #flock and #flock-dev channels.
[17:55] <Zabulus> microsoft laser mouse 6000 v. 1.0
[17:55] <tarin> micro innovations
[17:56] <bazhang> logitech wireless here Zabulus
[17:56] <tarin> i hate forced hard drive checks
[17:57] <bazhang> Is ms good about providing linux drivers?
[17:57]  * Dr_willis stares at bazhang  blankly.
[17:57] <Zabulus> lol
[17:57] <bazhang> just a joke
[17:58] <[ifr0g]> !reppu
[17:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reppu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:58] <Zabulus> to make things worse, im new to linux, and i cant really explore and get more into linux because the mouse just stops working, making everything an annoying task
[17:59] <tarin> internet is working
[17:59] <nosrednaekim> Zabulus: yeah.... thats odd,
[17:59] <tarin> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:59] <nosrednaekim> tarin: yay!!!
[18:00] <Dr_willis> tarin,  no its not.. we cant see you.
[18:00] <Dr_willis> :)
[18:00] <stevie2k> hi @all
[18:00] <nosrednaekim> Zabulus: I have never heard of that problem.
[18:00] <EternalNyt> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDE+Priority+handler?content=66266
[18:00] <EternalNyt> has anybody got this to install
[18:00] <Zabulus> not many people have unfortunately
[18:01] <bazhang> Zabulus: just checking the forums--this particular mouse has had issues as far back as Dapper
[18:01] <Zabulus> so ive noticed...=P
[18:01] <deuryte> xcell
[18:01] <sourcemaker> what's the last kernel version availble for kubuntu?
[18:01] <Zabulus> i upgrade, and each time i hope its fixed to no avail
[18:02] <Taryn> hello?
[18:02] <Taryn> hahaha yay it worked
[18:02] <Taryn> go intel
[18:02] <tarin> there hows that
[18:02] <marilena> ciao
[18:02] <sigma_> never fear i sorted it out guys, extracted the search engine from the firefox deb
[18:02] <sigma_> its just two silly files, and they are tiny
[18:03] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=540689 zabulus two people got it to work
[18:03] <Taryn> i feel so much better
[18:03] <Taryn> now i can get all the info off my windows boot and live in kubuntu
[18:04] <bazhang> great news Taryn
[18:04] <Taryn> no kidding
[18:04] <Taryn> how much of an issue is samba tho
[18:04] <Zabulus> hmm, unfortunately it doesnt seem like either had a similar problem to mind
[18:04] <Zabulus> mine*
[18:05] <elisiano> not that much
[18:05] <elisiano> bye guys
[18:05] <Taryn> i have a home network and want to be sure i will be able to continue using it
[18:05] <sigma_> depends what you want to do with samba, it see's windows pc's perfectly but if u want a windows pc to see it thats a mission
[18:05] <elisiano> taryn: are you in truoble accessing a samba share or using samba as server?
[18:06] <Taryn> not doing either yet
[18:06] <elisiano> as a client  i suggest you smb4k
[18:06] <Taryn> but when i move to full kubuntu i will need to install it
[18:07] <elisiano> it's very handy
[18:07] <elisiano> now I'm late
[18:07] <elisiano> bye
[18:07] <Taryn> thanks man
[18:08] <Zabulus> ok, ill take a poll, who here thinks going to gutsy will fix the problem with my mouse?
[18:08] <Taryn> ok here is one
[18:08] <LotharTBL> anyone running mythtv as a backend/frontend on kubuntu? Hints, tips pitfalls?
[18:08] <Taryn> can i install anyting to see the data on my ntfs hdd
[18:08] <LotharTBL> you need to mount it to see it
[18:08] <Xcell> Deu.
[18:08] <Taryn> i need to xfer my 3 gigs of music over
[18:09] <Taryn> how do i mount it
[18:09] <nicandro> hi, in order to connect to the web through a Nokia6630 via USB, which application should I use?
[18:09] <LotharTBL> ok.. you have an NTFS hd in a ubuntu machine?
[18:09] <Taryn> yeah i dual boot between xp and kubuntu
[18:10] <bazhang> LotharTBL: all available in kubuntu packages.ubuntu.com has them for gutsy
[18:10] <LotharTBL> hmm ok in a terminal do a fdisk -l and see if you can see the partition first and find out what /dev it is
[18:11] <LotharTBL> bazhang I have decided to go with 6.06 LTS for the backend. Undecided as to frint end
[18:11] <LotharTBL> front*
[18:11] <bazhang> LotharTBL: you can search that site for it not sure as I am on gutsy :}
[18:12] <sigma_> nicandro: use kppp
[18:12] <nicandro> sigma_: ok, but which modem device should i select ?
[18:12] <Taryn> LotharTBL: what is that option?
[18:12] <LotharTBL> I think mine is daper I went with LTS as its supported until 2011 and the others are only supported until 2009
[18:13] <Jimnastics> I'm using ip route to add & delete a default gateway route every 5 seconds, I've been testing it pinging a node and there is always a 2 second delay to actually delete a route after ip route del was exectured, anybody knowing why this is happening and if there is a way to immediately delete a route from the routing table?
[18:13] <LotharTBL> The "l" option will list all partitions fdisk can find
[18:13] <Taryn> didnt list anytihng
[18:13] <Zabulus> ok, how hard is it to upgrade from feisty to gutsy without using the mouse?
[18:14] <sigma_> nicandro: can't tell u now as im running it currently, sorry
[18:14] <bazhang> Zabulus: could you borrow a mouse for the duration of the upgrade?
[18:14] <LotharTBL> not sure if you can do an apt-get upgrade or not. I think that only works within a version
[18:14] <sigma_> nicandro: wat are the options?
[18:14] <Jimnastics> ?
[18:14] <Zabulus> well, i moved and lost my spares
[18:15] <LotharTBL> only a walmart away! **knocks on next door** excuse me, could I borrow a mouse?
[18:15] <Taryn> LotharTBL: didnt list any partitions just brought me to a >
[18:15] <Zabulus> lol, walmart maybe, next door...dont know them that well
[18:16] <LotharTBL> are you currently in a linux session?
[18:16] <Xcell> 50%
[18:16] <Zabulus> nope
[18:16] <Zabulus> xp
[18:16] <Jimnastics> I'm using ip route to add & delete a default gateway route every 5 seconds, I've been testing it pinging a node and there is always a 2 second delay to actually delete a route after ip route del was exectured, anybody knowing why this is happening and if there is a way to immediately delete a route from the routing table?
[18:17] <LotharTBL> Zabulus, how better to get to know them than to borrow a mouse. You can scare them too. be all sweaty and look wild eyed and tell them your upgrading your ubuntu linux distro.
[18:17] <Taryn> LotharTBL: hahahhaa
[18:17] <Zabulus> 10 to 1 says they would call the cops
[18:17] <LotharTBL> Taryn are you in a linux session?
[18:17] <Taryn> LotharTBL: yes
[18:17] <LotharTBL> ok when you open a terminal window you get an a>?
[18:18] <Taryn> LotharTBL: sorry thought you were talking to some one else
[18:18] <Taryn> no if i open the term i get the normal prompt
[18:18] <Taryn> but i id do the fdisk -| i get >
[18:18] <LotharTBL> ok do a whoami are you root?
[18:18] <jeroenvrp> I installed KDE4 RC1 (3.96), but the "about KDE" dialogs show Beta4! Is this normal?
[18:18] <Taryn> no i am tim
[18:18] <Taryn> but i use sudo
[18:18] <LotharTBL> Ah ok its a lower case L
[18:18] <Taryn> lol
[18:19] <LotharTBL> fdisk -l
[18:19] <Taryn> goes to another reg prompt
[18:19] <Taryn> doesnt show any info
[18:19] <deuryte> lets celebrate CHRIST-MASS for what it really is............Luke 2:7:
[18:19] <deuryte> And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.
[18:19] <LotharTBL> try sudo fdisk -l
[18:19] <deuryte> Luke 2:12:And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.Luke 2:16:
[18:19] <deuryte> And they came with haste, and found Mary, and Joseph, and the babe lying in a manger.
[18:19] <deuryte> opps
[18:19] <deuryte> oop's
[18:20] <deuryte> wrong room
[18:20] <Taryn> its actually another hard drive totally
[18:20] <Taryn> that i have windows on
[18:20] <LotharTBL> I would say so. I was waiting for the little babe to start blessing ubuntu distros
[18:20] <deuryte> he's not a babe any more.......
[18:20] <Taryn> nothing wrong with that is there
[18:20] <Taryn> lol
[18:21] <LotharTBL> shouldn't matter. fdisk -l will show all partitions no matter what hard drive that it can physicaly see (on the same machine)
[18:21] <Taryn> ok then it doesnt see it
[18:21] <LotharTBL> it isn't seeing anything?
[18:21] <Taryn> nope just skips to another prompt
[18:22] <Taryn> oops thats better
[18:22] <Taryn> forgtot to sudo
[18:22] <LotharTBL> ah ok working now?
[18:23] <Taryn> yeah shows /dev/sda1 as my ntfs
[18:25] <Taryn> a little off topic anyone know of any good repos i can add to adept
[18:25] <bazhang> medibuntu.org's Taryn
[18:25] <Taryn> cool thanks
[18:26] <Taryn> ohbtw what is the point of the jde wallet
[18:26] <bazhang> kdewallet?
[18:26] <bazhang> to store passwords
[18:28] <LotharTBL> ok so now we need to mount /dev/sda1
[18:28] <LotharTBL> I need to look it up but you can also do a man mount and find the parameters
[18:31] <RichardBH> hi - can anyone help with getting the cool 3d cube stuff on kubuntu gutsy?
[18:31] <LotharTBL> mount /dev/sda1 -t ntfs /mnt   give that a try with sudo
[18:31] <bazhang> !compiz | RichardBH
[18:31] <ubotu> RichardBH: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:32] <sourcemaker> kernel update to 2.6.23 possible?
[18:32] <RichardBH> thanks bazhang
[18:32] <LotharTBL> Taryn is that working
[18:33] <bazhang> RichardBH: no worries :}
[18:33] <Taryn> it just skipped to another prompt
[18:33] <sourcemaker> there is a new scheduler in kernel 2.6.23... for better performance on desktop applications... how can i upgrade?
[18:33] <Taryn> should it give me some type of confimation
[18:33] <LotharTBL> do a df and see if you see it
[18:34] <LotharTBL> the command is   df should show all mounted file systems
[18:34] <Taryn> yup shows as the last one
[18:34] <LotharTBL> ok then you can cd to it cd /mnt and you there
[18:35] <Taryn> awesome
[18:35] <Taryn> can i pull files from it?
[18:35] <LotharTBL> or from the desktop go to filesystem and it will be under /mnt
[18:35] <Taryn> i need to move 6gb of mp3s
[18:35] <LotharTBL> I imagine you can. It will depend on what they rights are to the /mnt directory
[18:36] <LotharTBL> go to the directory you want to pull from and do an ls -l and see who owns them
[18:37] <Xcell> 80%
[18:37] <LotharTBL> my lucky day, I got to answer a question. Life she is good!
[18:39] <Eicca> how can I open a .tar.bz2 file? what do I need to get ark extract it?
[18:40] <LotharTBL> ok guru's what does CPU frequency scaling not supported mean? Anyone, anyone buler?
[18:40] <nosrednaekim> LotharTBL: means your CPU doesn't support it... or HAL doesn't think it supports it.
[18:40] <nosrednaekim> LotharTBL: what  processor do you have?
[18:40] <LotharTBL> quad Xenons
[18:41] <LotharTBL> I got the box for a song. Old Prolient server. Makes noise like a truck, but its pretty snappy
[18:42] <Taryn> haha we run proliants at work
[18:42] <Taryn> doxen of them
[18:42] <nosrednaekim> LotharTBL: hrm...
[18:42] <LotharTBL> I got 2 from a buf for $200.00
[18:42] <Taryn> what generation is it
[18:42] <dreamcoder> hi can someone help me to install grpahics card drivers in kubunu pls
[18:42] <LotharTBL> bud*
[18:43] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia | dreamcoder
[18:43] <ubotu> dreamcoder: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:44] <dreamcoder> thank you
[18:44] <dreamcoder> :)
[18:44] <Taryn> lothar: are they G4s or G5s?
[18:45] <LotharTBL> DL5800 4x Xenon700s 1 gig of ram
[18:45] <Taryn> nice
[18:45] <Taryn> they are kinda noisy but they run great
[18:46] <LotharTBL> Its a pretty smokin machine has the standard raid card and an aftermarket one.
[18:46] <LotharTBL> I am so underutalizing it, it was a cheap machine for my mythTV backend.
[18:46] <LotharTBL> and yes its noisy as hell!
[18:50] <Dragnslcr> Has anyone else run into a problem with the PCM channel in KMix being set to 0% at seemingly random times?
[18:51] <LotharTBL> my next magical trick will be to build a storage server. http://www.freenas.org/
[18:51] <Dresken> Is there a way to limit download speed on another computer on my network?
[18:52] <egon> Oh MEIN GOTT! das ist ja mal echt geil. kde 4 ist jetzt im vergleich zur rc 1 um 1000000x schneller geworden :/ ich bin begeistert!
[18:52] <jpatrick> !de | egon
[18:52] <ubotu> egon: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:52] <egon> wahhh
[18:52] <egon> sorry wrong chat :/
[18:56] <LotharTBL> nosrednaekim is it a CPU issue? or a Hal issue? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47424/
[18:57] <Taryn> how do i get amarock to show lyrics?
[18:57] <nosrednaekim> LotharTBL: having no experience with intels..
[18:57] <nosrednaekim> oh.. p3?
[18:57] <nosrednaekim> don't think they have Frequency scaling.
[18:58] <LotharTBL> unfortunately, but hey they were cheap! lol
[18:58] <LotharTBL> ok thanks for the info
[18:58] <nado> did anybody of you run gta san andreas with wine? for me it's not working
[18:59] <nosrednaekim> 4x700mhz? thats probably pretty fast!
[18:59] <Eicca> sanokaa hyviä linux pelejä
[18:59] <Eicca> sry friend said that..
[18:59] <LotharTBL> I haven't seen anything bog it down yet. the raid is pretty snappy too
[18:59] <nosrednaekim> Taryn: go to the context side-bar
[19:00] <LotharTBL> the test will be when its recording 4 video channels and playing back 2 or 3. Should be interesting to say the least
[19:03] <nosrednaekim> Lothar_Away: recording isn't hard.
[19:03] <Xcell> Deu: done.
[19:03] <nosrednaekim> but playing back? needs some heavy graphics.
[19:03] <nosrednaekim> unless its just the server
[19:04] <nosrednaekim> in which case the disc is the bottleneck
[19:12] <deuryte> still there xcell
[19:15] <RichardBH> random question - is there any way to change the logon screen resolution? ive changed the desktop down to 1024x768, but i think the logon screen is still higher
[19:17] <mike__> anyone know how to get Openoffice 2.3.233 for gutsy?
[19:18] <Blu3> is konqueror tied to the network manager somehow?  i've often noticed that when i disable networking via the NM and use kppp to connect w/ my cellular data card that konqueror can no longer reach web pages.  It immediately stops with an error that it can't connect to the remote host.  I do not have any iptables rules
[19:18] <antiNeo> RichardBH: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (but make a backup first!) and go down to the place where it lists screen resolutions. just delete the ones you don't want
[19:18] <NickPresta> mike__, OOo 2.3.0 is in the repos. Do you _need_ 2.3.233?
[19:19] <mike__> NickPresta, yes, I need the new "presenter" screen
[19:20] <RichardBH> antiNeo cheers
[19:20] <antiNeo> RichardBH: np
[19:21] <NickPresta> mike__, http://download.openoffice.org/2.3.1/index.html?focus=download The deb link there has 2.3.1 (apparently the latest stable version)
[19:21] <ChristianB> Hi folks
[19:21] <NickPresta> mike__, they also have debs of 2.3.1rc1 here: http://download.openoffice.org/680/index.html?intcmp=1235
[19:21] <NickPresta> hi ChristianB
[19:22] <mike__> I'll look at that one, it may be the one I already have. I really need the presenter screen for a church presentation to get rid of MS once and for all.
[19:22] <RichardBH> antiNeo: sorry to bother you again, but i cant find a list of resolutions in that file
[19:23] <NickPresta> mike__, this might be of interest to you: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Presenter_Screen/Developer_Snapshot
[19:23] <ChristianB> I have a question regarding init scripts for (K)ubuntu
[19:23] <ChristianB> Is there a how to or best way to code init scripts?
[19:24] <mike__> that developer snapshot is what I need, I have it but cant get it installed?
[19:24] <mike__> there are no .deb's fro it..
[19:24] <NickPresta> mike__, you need to compile it from source, it seems. Do you know how to do that?
[19:24] <mike__> I have geard that compiling oo from source is a pretty big project..
[19:25] <ninjagambit> well nick im well rested up now
[19:25] <mike__> heard that is
[19:25] <ninjagambit> maby ill try to get flash on my firefox again today
[19:25] <NickPresta> ChristianB, I found the easiest way to create an init.d script was to open a (already written) script in /etc/init.d/ and adapt it to my needs.
[19:25] <ninjagambit> lol
[19:26] <ninjagambit> thanks for all the help the other night
[19:26] <NickPresta> mike__, it may be a big task.  I don't know personally but if that is the only way to get it, what are you going to do? :)
[19:27] <mike__> yea, guess so... :(
[19:27] <ChristianB> I've already tried that, using a script I found on the web but it seems that it doesn't work
[19:28] <NickPresta> ChristianB, have you done a `update-rc.d SCRIPT defaults` in a terminal?
[19:28] <mike__> seems like there would be somebody in all of ubuntu land that has tried it!
[19:28] <gabbah> how can i run a program as root without having to type in the password for root? I need to run a program when my computer starts up as root
[19:28] <ChristianB> no
[19:29] <Blu3> ok, apparently it's a long standing bug with konqueror and network-manager.  regardless of any existing functioning network connections (i.e. ppp), if you set network-manager offline, konqueror can do other protocols, just not HTTP
[19:29] <NickPresta> ChristianB, check this out (it tells you what to do once you wrote the script): http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[19:30] <ChristianB> I'll try this
[19:30] <NickPresta> gabbah, I suppose you could place the script in /root/.kde/Autostart (create Autostart if it doesn't exist).
[19:31] <NickPresta> mike__, you could use checkinstall to generate a deb package for "easy" installation. type: "/msg ubotu checkinstall" in this channel for more information
[19:31] <Cannoli> can someone point me in the right direction for installing themes?
[19:32] <Dragnslcr> !themes
[19:32] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[19:32] <gabbah> NickPresta: yes i thought of that too. but how do i run it as root?
[19:33] <mike__> thanks will give it a look
[19:33] <NickPresta> gabbah, everything in the .kde/Autostart folder is run when you login to your KDE sesssion. I would assume that this would run the script when root logs into a KDE session. It's worth a try, I suppose
[19:33] <Cannoli> domo arigatio Dragnslcr
[19:33] <RichardBH> !compiz
[19:33] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[19:33] <Zabulus> ok, how can i get to the option to upgrade to gutsy gibbon in adept using just the keyboard?
[19:34] <ChristianB> NickPresta: How can I test if it works without having to restart my machine?
[19:35] <gabbah> NickPresta: ok thanks
[19:35] <NickPresta> Zabulus, try: kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade". Quotes are important
[19:36] <NickPresta> ChristianB, you could try doing: sudo /etc/init.d/SCRIPT start|stop|restart and see if it's working. As for checking if it runs at boot up, you have to boot up :)
[19:37] <Zabulus> well, that command brought up adept, but didnt initalize the version upgrade
[19:38] <NickPresta> Zabulus, you should see a Version Upgrade buttont to click on, no?
[19:38] <HowDoYouLove> i just installed fresh kubuntu. I dont think i entered a timezone during setup. Now i cant change my timezone via system tray clock, or through control panel.. any help?
[19:39] <Zabulus> yes i do, i cant click on it, my mouse keeps freezing up, i was hoping gutsy would have a fix for that...
[19:39] <gabbah> what the differance between synaptic and adept package managers??
[19:40] <Eicca> tell me some good multiplayer games for kubuntu (multiplayer playable with one pc)
[19:40] <emilsedgh> gabbah: thats for gnome/gtk+, adept is for qt/kde, the ui and code are differrent
[19:40] <emilsedgh> Eicca: Frozen-Bubble, Netpanzer
[19:40] <t3ch13> I've installed the Nvidia graphics driver and did the glxgears to make sure that it works now what do I need for Compiz-Fusion?
[19:41] <emilsedgh> HowDoYouLove: did you try to go to administration mode?
[19:41] <HowDoYouLove> yes
[19:41] <HowDoYouLove> cant change anything
[19:41] <Zabulus> ok, can anyone tell me how to initalize the upgrade to gutsy without using the mouse, or perhaps a fix to stop my mouse from freezing up
[19:42] <NickPresta> Zabulus, what do you mean by "freezing up"? It doesn't move at all? Only sometimes?
[19:42] <emilsedgh> HowDoYouLove: when you click on go to administrator mode button, you should enter password and then you will be able to change things
[19:42] <HowDoYouLove> SHOULD be able to yes
[19:42] <HowDoYouLove> can not though
[19:42] <Zabulus> i boot up, the mouse works for a little bit, then it stops moving
[19:42] <ninjagambit> anyone here have amd64 and flash working
[19:42] <emilsedgh> nikkiana: i dunno about flash but im sure gnash works
[19:43] <HowDoYouLove> omg it just worked
[19:43] <HowDoYouLove> wasnt working before i swear
[19:43] <jembouge> I got the same problem as HowDoYouLove
[19:43] <HowDoYouLove> glad i tired again
[19:43] <NickPresta> Zabulus, is it possible to boot up, run that from the terminal and click on Version Upgrade before it stops working?
[19:43] <HowDoYouLove> ty
[19:44] <Zabulus> hard to say, its so random with its timing
[19:44] <sparr_> the kde panel cpu monitor is showing 100% IOWait time on my CPU.  how can i figure out whats causing that?
[19:44] <ChristianB> NickPresta: It seems the script itself is broken
[19:44] <NickPresta> ChristianB, pastebin the script. !pastebin
[19:44] <emilsedgh> HowDoYouLove: you dont need to swear man!
[19:44] <Zabulus> ive booted up and had it freeze before it showed the desktop, and ive booted up and it worked fine for half an hour then froze
[19:44] <emilsedgh> !repeat NickPresta
[19:44] <ChristianB> !pastebin
[19:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:44] <sparr> the kde panel cpu monitor is showing 100% IOWait time on my CPU.  how can i figure out whats causing that?
[19:44] <Zabulus> ive rebooted 4 times and havent been able to click that button
[19:45] <emilsedgh> NickPresta: thats possible, try to replace all 'feisty' with 'gutsy' in you /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:45] <NickPresta> emilsedgh, I think you mean to be talking to someone else :)
[19:45] <emilsedgh> sparr: try the command 'top' in konsole or ksysguard
[19:46] <sparr> emilsedgh: and sort by what?
[19:46] <ChristianB> !pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47430/
[19:46] <emilsedgh> NickPresta: you wanted to upgrade to hutsy without mouse, right?
[19:47] <T_I_M> !pastebin
[19:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:47] <emilsedgh> sparr: top already sorts by cpu usage, i think
[19:48] <NickPresta> emilsedgh, no, Zabulus wants to reboot without a mouse
[19:48] <NickPresta> emilsedgh, sorry, upgrade without a mouse
[19:48] <sparr> emilsedgh: was a defunct mplayer process, using 0% cpu.  thanks though
[19:49] <RogueJediX> Is there any particular procedure for setting up a joystick on a COM port?
[19:49] <emilsedgh> so sorry NickPresta
[19:50] <walter> hi everybody!
[19:50] <gabbah> hiii dr Niiick!
[19:50] <T_I_M> zabulus: can you get to konsole witout a mouse?
[19:50] <walter> I have 2 question for you...
[19:51] <Zabulus> yep
[19:51] <leszek> hi
[19:51] <NickPresta> ChristianB, this "boinc" client doesn't have a wait to stop the service without doing a "killall"?
[19:51] <walter> does nokia 5610 work on kubuntu gutsy?
[19:51] <T_I_M> if you go to /etc/apt/sources.list do you have anyting in there with feisty listed?
[19:52] <walter> i should use it as UMTS or GPRS modem...
[19:52] <josei> hoal hola
[19:52] <josei> [19:52] <josei> ???
[19:52] <ChristianB> NickPresta: A normal kill would do the same result
[19:52] <walter> does anybody know?
[19:53] <josei> necesito una pequeña ayudita
[19:53] <walter> ok
[19:53] <T_I_M> walter: sorry no idea on thst one
[19:54] <walter> thanks for your answer...:D
[19:54] <ChristianB> NickPresta: but stopping is not the problem, I want it to start first :)
[19:54] <walter> and about iPod classic 80 gb?
[19:55] <walter> It could work?
[19:55] <JohnFlux> !joystick
[19:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joystick - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:55] <JohnFlux> !joysticks
[19:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joysticks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:55] <ardchoille> !es | josei
[19:55] <ubotu> josei: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:55] <Zabulus> how can i get to that file to check
[19:55] <Zabulus> ?
[19:55] <josei> gracias
[19:55] <walter> sorry: could ipod classic work on kubuntu?
[19:56] <T_I_M> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:56] <NickPresta> ChristianB, try this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47434/
[19:56] <ChristianB> It seems the line "if [ -x /opt/BOINC/run_client ]; then" is the problem
[19:56] <NickPresta> ChristianB, remove the sudo from line 14 as well. I missed that
[19:56] <T_I_M> !ipod
[19:56] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[19:57] <walter> thanks ubotu
[19:57] <Zabulus> four uncommented lines, all four say fiesty in some part of them
[19:57] <ardchoille> !bot
[19:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[19:57] <T_I_M> walter: ubotu is a bot
[19:57] <walter> ahahahaha!
[19:57] <T_I_M> play on words for ubuntu
[19:58] <walter> ok ok
[19:58] <walter> :D
[19:58] <T_I_M> most times if you need info on a one word subject type ! then the word
[19:58] <T_I_M> like this !ipod
[19:58] <T_I_M> !ipod
[19:58] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[19:58] <T_I_M> see
[19:58] <T_I_M> very handy
[19:59] <Zabulus> well, i have to go, i guess ill deal more with this crud later...
[19:59] <walter> ok
[20:00] <Zabulus> and probably will after i upgrade too -_-
[20:00] <andreas_> how do i dual-screen?
[20:00] <T_I_M> cya zabulus
[20:00] <NickPresta> andreas_, which graphics card do you have?
[20:00] <andreas_> some standard intel thing
[20:01] <gabbah> anyone using netbeans 6 and knows how to install it?
[20:01] <NickPresta> !xinerama > andreas_
[20:01] <T_I_M> should be able to set it up in system settings monitor and display
[20:01] <T_I_M> gabbah:sorry not me
[20:02] <RogueJediX> I don't suppose anyone here has a working gameport joystick
[20:02] <T_I_M> no never considered putting mine on
[20:03] <JohnFlux> RogueJediX: have you googled?
[20:03] <RogueJediX> JohnFlux: I have. Found some tutorials that don't work for some reason
[20:03] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i disable the cache for maass storage devices
[20:03] <JohnFlux> RogueJediX: buy a usb joystick :-D
[20:03] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[20:04] <dsa> when you untar something
[20:04] <JohnFlux> MetaMorfoziS: why?
[20:04] <dsa> is that the same as unzipping?
[20:04] <JohnFlux> dsa: well technically tar is just to put multiple files into one
[20:04] <JohnFlux> dsa: the compression part is gzip
[20:04] <RogueJediX> JohnFlux: Why? This one works fine on other systems
[20:04] <dsa> ok so when it says untar the folder, does that mean extract it to my desktop or seomthing?
[20:04] <andreas_> how do i make my hd_sound_card work?
[20:05] <ChristianB> NickPresta: thx for your help, I found the bug. the scriptname was run_client.sh and not run_client
[20:05] <JohnFlux> dsa: yeah
[20:05] <NickPresta> ChristianB, heh, okay :)
[20:05] <JohnFlux> dsa:   tar -zxvf  file.tgz
[20:05] <RichardBH> does anyone know how to decrease the resolution of the logon screen?
[20:05] <ChristianB> Now it's working but I have to figure out how to redirect to the correct log files
[20:05] <MetaMorfoziS> JohnFlux > because thats sux...
[20:05] <JohnFlux> MetaMorfoziS: why?
[20:06] <MetaMorfoziS> JohnFlux > not why, how.
[20:06] <JohnFlux> MetaMorfoziS: what makes you think it's a problem?
[20:06] <dsa> alright ty
[20:06] <MetaMorfoziS> Because it's illogic, and it's often works wrong.
[20:06] <sub[t]rnl> RichardBH: remove any unwanted resolutions from your /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  The login uses the first resolution available
[20:06] <MetaMorfoziS> If i copy something, then i WANT COPY THAT
[20:07] <MetaMorfoziS> and i didn't want to get errors when i try to safely remove
[20:07] <MetaMorfoziS> and i didin't want 0 byte files on my device
[20:07] <JohnFlux> MetaMorfoziS: aaah, you want copies to be synchronous
[20:07] <MetaMorfoziS> i just want COPY the files. nothing else
[20:07] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[20:08] <JohnFlux> MetaMorfoziS: i ask these questions because I want to know what you actually want, not what you think you want :-D
[20:08] <MetaMorfoziS> :))
[20:09] <JohnFlux> MetaMorfoziS: edit /etc/fstab  and add the option sync  to the device