[10:27] <emily> I'm putting home on an ntfs partition so that vista and ubuntu can both access the files
[10:27] <LispWarez> can anyone help me, i wanna change over to ubuntu but want to know if i can run some sort of dos emulator in it
[10:28] <jeroenimo> LispWarez: vmware
[10:28] <emily> check the fstab for what?
[10:28] <jeroenimo> or Qemu
[10:28] <emily> I have it open
[10:28] <emily> /dev/sda3 /home ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_GB.UTF-8 0 0
[10:28] <jeroenimo> emily: does the ntfs part have write permissions ?
[10:28] <joachim_> the umask for that drive
[10:28] <LispWarez> run vmware in ubuntu?
[10:28] <jeroenimo> LispWarez: sure why not
[10:29] <etfb> LispWarez: VMWare Server is now free (ie zero price, but not Free Software).  I use it to run Windows happily.
[10:29] <emily> does that have the correct write permissions?
[10:29] <LispWarez> seems a bit much for a basic user
[10:29] <pihhan> hello
[10:29] <phuzion> Ok, I've recently moved to Ubuntu from Windows.  My torrent client of choice was, obviously, uTorrent.  I run uTorrent in Wine now, and have imported the saved data from my Windows partition.    Anyone know of a simple way to edit the uTorrent save information so that everything associates with my new linux paths?
[10:29] <Johnny_5> can't u have vista on a i386?
[10:29] <emily> thoughts on the fstab?
[10:29] <emily> /dev/sda3 /home ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_GB.UTF-8 0 0
[10:29] <phuzion> Johnny_5, yeah, Vista is supported on i386 architecture
[10:29] <etfb> LispWarez: Download the VMWare Server; follow the instructions to install; fire it up; install Windows on a VM; and you're done.
[10:30] <LispWarez> thats the thing... i dont want windows
[10:30] <jeroenimo> pihhan: just start the new client and make sure it saves the torrents in the same place as where the old ones where ..
[10:30] <Johnny_5> well personally that's what i woulda done...
[10:30] <ewen> LispWarez - you could check out dosbox
[10:30] <LispWarez> yea i looked at dosbox.com but theres nothing listed for ubuntu
[10:30] <joachim_> emily: I have for the options bit on my FAT32 drives: defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46
[10:30] <nemilar> stop running utorrent in wine
[10:30] <joachim_> though I don't know what all those do... ;)
[10:30] <nemilar> use a linux torrent program
[10:30] <etfb> LispWarez: I created a DOS 7 machine by just installing Win95 and then editing the autoexec so it didn't load Windows...
[10:31] <bullgard4> What is the reason that Ubuntu does not provide a DEB program package for OmagaT?
[10:31] <Johnny_5> err...tqaht's what i ment...man i'm a retard
[10:31] <joachim_> you might want to try adding umask=007 to that comma list of options
[10:31] <ikonia> bullgard4: no-one has packaged it
[10:31] <ikonia> bullgard4: it's that simple
[10:31] <nemilar> bullgard4: what is it?
[10:31] <tim167> dabr ok thanks i'll try it out
[10:31] <LispWarez> i also cant just have a dos OS, need to open an excel spreadsheet (read only) on it too
[10:31] <Johnny_5> freakin' fat32...can't vista use fat32?
[10:31] <etfb> phuzion: ktorrent is pretty good (it's the KDE/Kubuntu one, but of course you can get it regardless of your distro).  Not as good as uTorrent, but close enough.
[10:31] <tokok> does lm-sensors contain HDD sensors? cuz my hdds not detected
[10:31] <pihhan> dont you know someone, how to turn off sound right after login?
[10:32] <Johnny_5> ok i can def tell i need 2 go 2 bed soon...sorry
[10:32] <jeroenimo> pihhan: have a look at deluge-torrent
[10:32] <ikonia> tokok: hdd sensors - in what way
[10:32] <linux1> tokok look at hhdtemp
[10:32] <jeroenimo> pihhan: sorry
[10:32] <phuzion> etfb, if I move clients, that still brings the issue of re-importing over 300 torrents, and setting appropriate download paths
[10:32] <pihhan> tokok: smartmontools are for that
[10:32] <jeroenimo> phuzion: have a look at deluge-torrent
[10:33] <phuzion> jeroenimo, if I move clients, that still brings the issue of re-importing over 300 torrents, and setting appropriate download paths
[10:33] <etfb> LispWarez: for the spreadsheet, Open Office may work.  You may have to manually edit all formulas to use semicolons instead of commas, because the OOo developers are retarded...
[10:33] <jeroenimo> phuzion: well noo..
[10:33] <etfb> phuzion: Do you have the .torrent files?
[10:33] <tim167> dabr when i do find / -name "*.txt" | grep whatever, i get some Permission denied messages, is that normal ?
[10:33] <nemilar> it can prolly read/write fat32, Johnny_5
[10:33] <nemilar> but i doubt it'll install to it
[10:33] <nemilar> tokok: no, it doesn't
[10:33] <nemilar> tokok: www.techthrob.com/tech/linuxsensors.php
[10:33] <nemilar> tokok: I _just_ wrote that how-to like a few hours ago.  see the part about hddtemp
[10:33] <linux1> tokok you can get hddtemp to pull the temp and show them with gnome sensor applet
[10:33] <FloodBot1> nemilar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:33] <Johnny_5> cool
[10:33] <nemilar> listen floodbot.  it's too early in the morning for you.
[10:33] <jeroenimo> phuzion: nope... when you set the default download directory you should be fine
[10:34] <phuzion> etfb, yes, I have the .torrent files.  But what you guys aren't understanding is that I have different download locations depending on content type
[10:34] <nemilar> tim167: yeah that's normal.
[10:34] <tokok> thanks guys!
[10:34] <etfb> phuzion: Sounds like you're pretty well a BT superuser though, way out of my league.  The largest collection of torrents I've ever downloaded simultaneously was probably three...
[10:34] <LispWarez> yea i was planning on using open office
[10:34] <nemilar> tim167: if you want to search _everything_ including files only readable by root, do it sudo
[10:34] <jeroenimo> phuzion: yups.... lost me too
[10:34] <tim167> nemilar, ok then !
[10:34] <LispWarez> but still need to run a dos app under ubuntu too
[10:34] <etfb> LispWarez: It's not MUCH less irritating that MS Office, sadly.  But at least it gets updated without costing $$$
[10:34] <phuzion> etfb, I am an administrator on a tracker, I sorta know my way around BitTorrent
[10:34] <LispWarez> at the same time
[10:34] <dabr> tim167: yes because you search all of your drive, but do not have permission for some directories... if your *.txt are all in your home dir, use ~ instead of /
[10:35] <Johnny_5> i never heard of linux using ntfs (not to say it can't be done...just means i never heard about it...) so if u want the best of both worlds (linux & vista) i'd go with a fat32 file system...
[10:35] <pihhan> LispWarez: dosbox is good choice for dos applications
[10:35] <jeroenimo> phuzion: Well I guess you ned to hack the uTorrent config files
[10:35] <etfb> phuzion: Like I said: outa my league.  Sorry, can't help you.
[10:35] <nemilar> Johnny_5: linux has read/write support for ntfs
[10:35] <nemilar> fat32 is junk
[10:35] <phuzion> etfb, thanks for the help
[10:35] <tim167> dabr, thanks
[10:35] <Johnny_5> oh
[10:35] <etfb> phuzion: no wuckers.
[10:35]  * jeroenimo nods at etfb and I'm out too
[10:35] <phuzion> jeroenimo, yeah, that's what I'm thinking to do, but I can't seem to find the encoding type for it :(
[10:35] <LispWarez> pihhan: yea but dosbox on ubuntu... can it be done?
[10:35] <nemilar> fat32 hasn't been the primary windows filesystem since windows98/ME
[10:36] <pihhan> LispWarez: but it is only DOS, no windows at all
[10:36] <Johnny_5> cool...learn something new everyday...i'll try 2 remember that for the future...
[10:36] <Johnny_5> well i guess i'm not much help here today...
[10:36] <pihhan> LispWarez: i am sure it can, it is not distribution related
[10:36] <Johnny_5> i'm goin' 2 bed now...
[10:36] <Johnny_5> later all
[10:36] <msingh> is there a nice gui tool to use to edit /etc/fstab?
[10:36] <etfb> LispWarez: Start again, cos I'm a bat of very little brain.    You're starting with Ubuntu but you have some Windows stuff you need to run.  What is it exactly?
[10:36] <LispWarez> which dosbox package would be most suited for ubuntu then?
[10:36] <msingh> LispWarez, nice name
[10:37] <nemilar> msingh: pysdm maybe? donno
[10:37] <pihhan> LispWarez: install dosbox package then, propably in universe repository
[10:37] <LispWarez> ok what i need is a linux box (preferably ubuntu) that can open an excel spreadsheet and run a dos app
[10:37] <joedj> does anyone know where the /bin/arch binary that used to be in util-linux has gone in Gutsy? i can't find it with apt-file
[10:38] <nemilar> LispWarez: oo.o can handle excel...and dosbox, or wine, or vmware, or qemu, or any host of things can take care of your dos apps
[10:38] <phuzion> jeroenimo and etfb either of you guys familiar with wine at all? because I have an idea that might work, I just wanna run it by you guys first
[10:38] <msingh> nemilar, cheers, looks good.
[10:38] <etfb> phuzion: Moderately.  I've got it working for most things, although I'm not ambitious...
[10:38] <pihhan> depends on how complicated are excel spreadsheets, openoffice handles only simple ones
[10:38] <LispWarez> i will see what i can do
[10:38] <pihhan> no macros or like
[10:38] <LispWarez> thanks for the help guys
[10:39] <nemilar> macros are for virii ;)
[10:39] <etfb> pihhan: Changing stuff like IF(A1="","Empty",A1) to IF(A1="";"Empty";A1) will often help.
[10:39] <nemilar> i wonder if gnumeric has better excel support
[10:40] <pihhan> etfb: i dont have excel documents at all, i use oo.o on windows too
[10:40] <phuzion> etfb, ah, someone is helping me in #winehq
[10:40] <etfb> phuzion: Excellent!  I wish there was a #usb channel to help me...
[10:40] <pihhan> etfb: never had need to replace commas in that however
[10:40] <nemilar> one of my articles got front-paged at linux.com :D
[10:40] <etfb> pihhan: Really? Might be an artefact of the way I was importing files... interesting...
[10:41] <etfb> nemilar: You're famous!    Can anyone advise on how you debug USB connections to find out why some things don't mount properly?
[10:43] <nemilar> etfb: any help in the dmesg?
[10:43] <etfb> I know about lsusb and dmesg and... well, that's about all, actually.
[10:43] <cdealer> etfb, its not mounting ?
[10:43] <etfb> Yep.  Some things do, some don't.
[10:43] <cdealer> etfb, have you already made a lazy umount and tried to remount specifiing the file system ?
[10:43] <nemilar> well what does dmesg say?
[10:43] <etfb> YEt they were fine on Feisty on the same hardware.
[10:44] <erUSUL> etfb: it could be a usb issue or an udev  issue or a hald issue
[10:44] <linux1> pihhan look in /system/admin/accessibility
[10:44] <etfb> erUSUL, cdealer: can you point me to tutorials on that?  Don't want to waste your time...
[10:44] <etfb> Even man pages would do...
[10:45] <pihhan> nemilar: thanks! so simple, what a shame not to find it
[10:45] <nemilar> np
[10:45] <cdealer> etfb, man mount have all about this
[10:45]  * etfb scribbles down notes in a spare Emacs window...
[10:45] <nemilar> what's an emacs
[10:46] <nemilar> is that some sort of devilish contraption?
[10:46] <etfb> nemilar: it's a high-powered multi-platform operating system with one or two text-editing extensions.  Also, a religion.
[10:46] <cdealer> etfb, dmesg will be th  default debug output you will be using to see what happned on the mount action .... remove the device them plug again and type dmesg to see any error report
[10:46] <nemilar> lol, one or two extensions
[10:46] <nemilar> the dang thing can run a web browser
[10:47] <nemilar> oh, lol, you made it a funny
[10:47] <etfb> nemilar: Web browser?  Bah!  It could run the space shuttle!  AND the astronauts would survive a whole lot better...
[10:47] <pihhan> plain text editor with embedded operating sytem?
[10:47] <erUSUL> etfb: do 'sudo udevmonitor' on a terminal and plug a problematic usb device also in other terminal run 'tail -f /var/log/messages' you should see a few/lot msgs appearing on both terminals meaning that the kernel recognice the device and also that udev generates the /dev/files etc
[10:47] <nemilar> i'm half asleep, didn't read your line as a joke
[10:48] <memic> where does the nm-applet save its configuration?
[10:48] <etfb> erUSUL: thanks, that's golden.  Just what I needed.
[10:48]  * etfb scribbles furiously
[10:49] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hello
[10:49] <etfb> Thanks, lads and lasses; that's just what I needed.  Right; off to do some debugging.  AFTER I sleep...
[10:50] <erUSUL> etfb: well we, acolites of the Emacs Church, must help each other in times of need XD. RMS said so
[10:50] <erUSUL> etfb: lol
[10:50] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> how can i get the "@ubuntu/member" at my irc nick?
[10:50] <doctorow> I'm trying to upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy using the Update Manager. Update Manager dies while setting up the update with an error about not being able to resolve archive.ubuntustudio.org. I can't seem to resolve this host from anywhere either. Is the host down temporarily? Can I disable the Ubuntustudio installs somehow, or point Update Manager to a mirror?
[10:50] <erUSUL> Kamus_H_Zwisch: by being an ubuntu member of some sort?
[10:50] <etfb> erUSUL: You've reminded me: I really should find an irc.el so I don't keep having to use inferior non-RMSian software.
[10:51] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> erUSUL: hmmmm
[10:51] <dgjones> !member > Kamus_H_Zwisch (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[10:51] <erUSUL> etfb: ;) well i use irssi (not in emacs) but i'm a sinner XD
[10:51] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> thank you dgjones
[10:51] <etfb> doctorow (can I call you Cory?  love your site, BTW): I really can't recommend upgrading.  Clean installs are the way to go.
[10:51] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> :)
[10:51] <joedj> does everyone else immediately relink /bin/sh to /bin/bash when dash screws them over?
[10:52] <nemilar> no
[10:52] <erUSUL> joedj: no we just run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash'
[10:52] <etfb> joedj: I'd be scared of encountering shell incompatibilities...
[10:52] <erUSUL> joedj: XD
[10:52] <nemilar> mainly because /bin/sh is already linked to bash
[10:52] <doctorow> SUre, etfb! Call me anything you like! I've downloaded and burned a CD, but I'm reluctant to run it, since using the manager is the proscribed method from emperor linux, who sold me this Thinkpad. I want to keep their stuff intact (drivers for the tablet, etc)
[10:52] <pihhan> i dont think so
[10:53] <pihhan> i am sure i dont have /bin/sh linked to bash
[10:53] <nemilar> wait, why is it linked to dash one one of my systems and bash on another
[10:53] <neeto> I am playing CS on one screen, fullscreen, and I switched out and the screen disappeared, how can I get back into it"?
[10:53] <joedj> erUSUL: thanks, that feels nicer =P
[10:53] <pihhan> i have fresh gutsy install and have dash as default shell
[10:53] <etfb> doctorow: Gotcha.  Bugger.  I stuffed up my F->G upgrade.  I suspect they don't test it terribly well.  Short of hand-editing repositories and starting again, I don't know what you'd do.  Sorry!
[10:54] <nemilar> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-08-21 11:51 /bin/sh -> bash
[10:54] <nemilar> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-05-22 23:53 /bin/sh -> dash
[10:54] <erUSUL> doctorow: is ubuntu studio what you have iinstaled? or plain ubuntu?
[10:54] <doctorow> Thanks, etfb - I'm just wondering if archive.ubuntustudio.org is temporarily offline...
[10:54] <doctorow> erUSUL, no, plain ubuntu
[10:55] <FFighter> /join #zope-pt
[10:55] <FFighter> lol... sorry
[10:55] <ikonia> doctorow: ubuntustudio guys live in #ubuntustudio
[10:55] <FFighter> =P
[10:55] <erUSUL> doctorow: if it is plain ubuntu just comment the ubuntu studio repo and make the dist-upgrade without it
[10:55] <neeto> I am playing CS on one screen, fullscreen, and I switched out and the screen disappeared, how can I get back into it"?
[10:55] <doctorow> ikonia, thanks -- I'll go ask them
[10:55] <etfb> neeto: What's CS?
[10:55] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: ya still there me little INFO desk
[10:55] <ikonia> etfb: windows game
[10:56] <pihhan> neeto: how did you switch out?
[10:56] <BenoitH> I think CS is counter strike
[10:56] <neeto> etfb: counterstrike, windows thing
[10:56] <BenoitH> a valve's games
[10:56] <doctorow> erUSUL -- I'm trying to do the update with the Updater, not apt-get, but that's a good idea
[10:56] <etfb> neeto: Ah, that rings a bell (I'm an old fart; I still prefer Tetris).  How are you playing it?  Wine?
[10:56] <neeto> pihhan: I have compiz running, and I wanted to see if the cube worked with it, so I switched workspaces and it's not on the original anymore
[10:56] <neeto> etfb: wine, yeah
[10:57] <etfb> neeto: Woooh!  Welcome to the edges of Linux/Windows compatibility.  That's tricky!
[10:57] <doctorow> OK, I'm going to head over to #ubuntustudio and ask around -- thanks everyone!
[10:57] <neeto> lol, I can still hear it playing in the background
[10:57] <etfb> neeto: Do a Ctrl+Esc and see if its process is still running.  It may have crashed.
[10:57] <pihhan> neeto: check if it is still present as a process
[10:57] <neeto> it is, and it hasn't crashed
[10:58] <neeto> I just want to find the window, wherever it may have hidden itsellf
[10:58] <erUSUL> doctorow: you can comment out the repo and then lauch the update manager
[10:58] <etfb> There should be some way to select a process.  Perhaps via the Ctrl+Esc thingy (it's called ksystemguard under KDE; not sure under Gnome)
[10:58] <neeto> I can still hear people killing each other
[10:58] <pihhan> ok, try every workspace :)
[10:58] <neeto> I'm using gnome, anyone know?
[10:58] <etfb> neeto: Alternatively, you can kill the process from there and restart; would that work?
[10:58] <neeto> Yeah, I tried every workspace, I'm also using compiz and nautilus so
[10:59] <pihhan> try to switch in with alt-tab into it, maybe it will reinitialize screen
[10:59] <neeto> etfb: that's what I just did, but it wasn't the step I wanted to take...
[10:59] <Nubae> hi there... quick question... I'm doing apt-get install edubuntu-desktop, but it fails close to the end with this message: dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:252: process_queue: Assertion `!queuelen' failed
[10:59] <tockitj> Q: flash player stoped working after an update? i've tried removing and installing flashplugin-nonfree
[10:59] <neeto> pihhan: that didn't work either
[10:59] <nemilar> !flash | tockitj
[10:59] <Nubae> it core dumps after that, so can't do dpkg --configure -a
[10:59] <ubotu> tockitj: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[10:59] <pihhan> i dont expect guys in wine was fixing such things
[10:59] <pihhan> so, dont switch screens if you want play :)
[10:59] <nemilar> if you want to game, use cedega instead of wine
[11:00] <neeto> meh, I don't really need a fix... I was just seeing if it worked and it doesn't, I'm not heartbroken
[11:00] <tockitj> nemilar thanks :-)
[11:00] <nemilar> yup
[11:00] <neeto> I'm just glad I can play without windows *shudder*
[11:00] <etfb> I'm out of here.  Must sleep.  Thanks guys.  Good luck getting back to the death and mayhem, neeto!
[11:00] <nemilar> tomorrow is alpha4 day
[11:00] <neeto> etfb: night man, thanks
[11:01] <Nubae> anyone?
[11:01] <cdealer> Im having a problem to set the default gw through dhcp ... I dont know why but my dhcp clients are not geting the default route in the format of <IP_ADDRESS> but dhcp-server.localhost .. and this is making some problem with conecting on msn and stuff like that.. I tried the option routers <IP_ADDRESS> in dhcpd.conf but didint worked
[11:02] <BenoitH> nemilar: cedega isn't free ?
[11:02] <nemilar> no it's not
[11:02] <nemilar> it's put out by Transgaming
[11:02] <krabador> hey people, i've a problem with kde graphical effects
[11:02] <krabador> i can't uninstalll
[11:02] <BenoitH> that's suxx :-/
[11:02] <krabador> what can i do?
[11:03] <popey> BenoitH: it pays for continued development
[11:03] <nemilar> well if you want games to work well, and to have support in linux, that's what you get
[11:03] <BenoitH> yes, i know
[11:03] <popey> BenoitH: and licensing that they have to do AIUI
[11:03] <ShaunES> Anyone set up nstx client on ubuntu before?
[11:03] <Nubae> if you want to play games that were released 4 or 5 years ago, yeah
[11:03] <ShaunES> http://thomer.com/howtos/nstx.html following that
[11:03] <nemilar> they support recent games
[11:03] <tokok> games not work well in cedega just like in wine
[11:03] <nemilar> wrong
[11:04] <Nubae> bah... without tinkering its just as bad as wine
[11:04] <tokok> wine is always newer than cedega
[11:04] <tokok> they slow to update
[11:04] <Nubae> exactly
[11:04] <Nubae> same deal with crossover
[11:04] <nemilar> if you want to play world of warcraft, cedega works great
[11:05] <nemilar> if you wanna play maden 07, works great
[11:05] <Nubae> wow works fine in wine too
[11:05] <BenoitH> you can play to world of warcraft with wine
[11:05] <tokok> if you want play wow, nothing stoppid doing it with wine
[11:05] <nemilar> but then people complain here when something goes wrong
[11:05] <derek01> Do i need to install ubuntu before or after my windows partition to dual-boot
[11:05] <nemilar> with cedega, they buy a subscription, so they complain elsewhere
[11:05] <Nubae> if you're feeling philanthropic, go ahead and purchase membership with cedega
[11:05] <BenoitH> Can we play to half life 2 with wine or cedega ?
[11:06] <Nubae> otherwise use wine
[11:06] <nemilar> there's nothing philanthropic about paying someone for their commercial product
[11:06] <Nubae> there is when u can get wine for free
[11:06] <nemilar> no.
[11:06] <nemilar> philanthropic would be giving money to wine
[11:06] <Nubae> hey, I payed for six months
[11:06] <Nubae> it is like giving money to wine
[11:06] <derek01> Can anyone help- me with my question?
[11:06] <Nubae> thats the whole point
[11:07] <nemilar> no, it's like giving money to Transgaming
[11:07] <Nubae> yes, who code wine
[11:07] <nemilar> no
[11:07] <tokok> nemilar: ok, do you have list of games which work in cedega but not in wine?
[11:07] <nemilar> dude
[11:07] <nemilar> tokok: on the cedega website, or google
[11:07] <stefano_> transgaming has not proggrammed wine
[11:07] <nemilar> Transgaming did not write wine, and if you think that, you're an idiot
[11:07] <Nubae> jeez...
[11:07] <charles> Transgaming is a fork of the wine project
[11:07] <stefano_> nemilar, please watch your language and keep this channel friendly
[11:07] <derek01> Should my ubuntu partition be before or after my windows partition on my Hard Drive?
[11:08] <Nubae> you dont think Transgamming gives their changes back to wine?
[11:08] <nemilar> stefano_: yeah, I know better
[11:08] <nemilar> derek01: doesn't make a difference
[11:08] <BenoitH> derek01, I think it's better after ;)
[11:08] <tokok> nemilar: i said about comparison, not about list of games.
[11:08] <derek01> thank you
[11:08] <evdvelde> hi all,how does one start a software raid after booting (non root partition)?
[11:08] <charles> derek01 although I don't think that it matters all that much if you are using grub as your boot manager
[11:09] <nemilar> I think if you're using the windows boot manager, it will complain if the partition number of the windows drive is too high, actually
[11:09] <derek01> well everytime i try to install ubuntu gutsy it just hangs after i get to the final step on teh install
[11:09] <|WolF1> Question: How to install gcc, is there any command to get it, or any link to help?
[11:09] <charles> evdvelde are you currently booted onto a drive that is going to be in the raid?
[11:09] <stefano_> evdvelde, you dont have to "start" it, you just have to mount it,
[11:09] <nemilar> tokok: to quote you, you said "list of games"
[11:09] <evdvelde> charles: no, it is a log partition for test systems, completely separate
[11:09] <BenoitH> apt-get install gcc ?
[11:09] <nemilar> |WolF1: apt-get install build-essentials
[11:10] <stefano_> |WolF1, install the package "build-essential"
[11:10] <charles> |WolF1 sudo apt-get build-essential
[11:10] <tokok> nemilar: check this to find out all your games work without cedega http://appdb.winehq.org/
[11:10] <nemilar> ^^
[11:10] <derek01> anyon
[11:10] <derek01> ?
[11:10] <krabador> hei people, i can't unistal graphical effects in kubuntu gutsy (at startup they run, but from kde menu they're disabled)
[11:10] <stefano_> it's build-essential without the s,
[11:10] <evdvelde> stefano_: i put it in fstab but it does not get mounted and it complains that /dev/md0 has a wrong fs_type when trying to mount. after mdadm -A -s, it works fine
[11:10] <krabador> what can i do?
[11:11] <|WolF1> it says to me E: Invalid operation build-essential
[11:11] <derek01> well everytime i try to install ubuntu gutsy it just hangs after i get to the final step on the install
[11:11] <stefano_> evdvelde, you can put this command in /etc/rc.local then it gets executed at boot
[11:11] <evdvelde> stefano_: i could do that, yes.. just wondering if there was a clean method to autodetect it
[11:11] <stefano_> |WolF1, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:11] <evdvelde> i like clean solutions :)
[11:11] <stefano_> evdvelde, no idea, sry
[11:11] <evdvelde> stefano_: np, thx for helping
[11:12] <Nubae> TransGaming halted using code contributed to Wine when the license was changed, though this has resumed recently with TransGaming integrating certain LGPL portions of Wine into Cedega and placing those portions of the source code on their public servers.
[11:12] <charles> sorry evdvelde I don't know either
[11:12] <netgear> anyone having problems with installing ubuntu restricted extras?
[11:12] <evdvelde> charles: thx too :)
[11:12] <nemilar> Nubae: way to quote wikipedia
[11:12] <maltron> I'm trying to read the table of contents on an audio cd, but I can't get cdrdao to read it.  Every other program seems to work fine, including k3b
[11:12] <derek01> Can anyone help me with this,  everytime i try to install ubuntu gutsy it just hangs up after i get to the final step on the install and never does the actual install or partitioning
[11:13] <stefano_> derek01, do you know what mainboard you have?
[11:13] <netgear> derek01: bad memory perhaps?
[11:13] <Nubae> nemilar... u saying thats not true?
[11:13] <nemilar> I didn't say that.
[11:13] <derek01> memorys good
[11:13] <derek01> 2 gb brand new just tested
[11:14] <tokok> (16:09:42) nemilar: tokok: to quote you, you said "list of games"   - and this is not full quote, i said list of games which not work in wine, not list of games which work in cedega (which just mirror wine games list probably)
[11:14] <Nubae> well, point is, give money to transgaming or crossover, u help development of wine
[11:14] <netgear> derek01: hdd bad sectors? how old is the machine?
[11:14] <derek01> and my mobo is an A13G+ AMD
[11:14] <Nubae> codeweavers... sorry
[11:14] <derek01> brand new
[11:14] <Tassinar> Ahoy all.
[11:14] <derek01> dual core
[11:14] <nemilar> ok, i am leaving.
[11:14] <derek01> amd 6000+
[11:15] <yeniklasorr> How can I add a specific value of ram usage limit for an application (especially for firefox, because it is slowing down).
[11:15] <derek01> 500gb hd all sectors that i know of are fine havnt encountered any problems with it until now
[11:15] <tokok> ok he was not able to prove "cedega is better"
[11:15] <ikonia> yeniklasorr: pardon ?
[11:16] <Tassinar_> Oh. "Ubuntu Server" is an alias for "FreeNode". Fine.
[11:16] <derek01> is there a way to manually install through terminal
[11:16] <ikonia> derek01: through a terminal ?
[11:16] <derek01> yea
[11:16] <ikonia> derek01: the alternate cd is a "non graphical" installer
[11:16] <yeniklasorr> ikonia : I want this: Firefox can use 500 MB of ram...
[11:16] <ikonia> yeniklasorr: let the kernel manage your memory - it's smarter
[11:16] <derek01> i cant get a alternate cd at the moment
[11:17] <ikonia> derek01 then no - you'll have to wait until you can get it
[11:17] <derek01> i was hoping to get the install don
[11:17] <stefano_> derek01, while installing, you can press ctrl plus an arrow key to change terminals, in one (i think thr second) there is a detailed list of what the installer does, checking what happes just before it hangs might solve your problem
[11:17] <derek01> stefano: Thank you
[11:17] <stefano_> derek01, i suppose you use the alternate--cd?
[11:17] <FreeDownload> Hi, people.
[11:17] <yeniklasorr> ikonia : But firefox is slowing down and not responding when I open a few tabs or a page that has lots of text.
[11:17] <FreeDownload> Juan from Argentina.
[11:18] <derek01> stefano: no im no the livecd right now
[11:18] <ikonia> yeniklasorr: then there is probably something else causing the issue
[11:18] <FreeDownload> Is there anybody from southamerica ?
[11:18] <stefano_> derek01, oh. download the alternate cd and install from it, it's not muich harder and it may work a lot better
[11:18] <FreeDownload> (sorry about my english)
[11:18] <yeniklasorr> ikonia : I have a fresh install Ubuntu
[11:18] <ikonia> yeniklasorr so ?
[11:18] <ikonia> yeniklasorr how much ram does your machine have ?
[11:19] <yeniklasorr> 1 gb
[11:19] <linux1> yeniklasorr type about:config in browser and have a look cant rember that value to chenage but you can limit firefox from there
[11:19] <ikonia> yeniklasorr: then ram is not your issue for firefox
[11:19] <yeniklasorr> cpu ?
[11:19] <ikonia> yeniklasorr: the linux kernel will manage your ram more effectivly than you can
[11:19] <stefano_> yeniklasorr, firefox isnt all that fast, i suggest you try epihany - (the package is called epiphany-browser)
[11:19] <yeniklasorr> 2.6 ghz
[11:19] <yeniklasorr> epihany ok ;)
[11:19] <FreeDownload> anyway, firefox should work in a machine like thar
[11:20] <k4r0nt3> m
[11:20] <stefano_> true
[11:20] <FreeDownload> *that
[11:20] <FreeDownload> 1168 users online?
[11:20] <FreeDownload> wow.
[11:20] <linux1> yeniklasorr http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2006/04/reduce-memory-usage-in-firefox.html
[11:20] <FreeDownload> nice server, hehe
[11:21] <Tassinar> Has anyone had any luck with getting Rhythymbox to play music file when it starts, say if you provide the filename as an argument?
[11:21] <ikonia> FreeDownload: this is an ubuntu support channel, not a chat channel. Do you have a question about ubuntu ?
[11:21] <yeniklasorr> Can YOU open a webpage with firefox, if that page has 2 mb of text ?
[11:21] <stefano_> FreeDownload, sometimes we have more than 3000 here :-)
[11:21] <FreeDownload> ikonia, no, I don't have any question.
[11:21] <ikonia> FreeDownload: then please keep in mind this is a support channel only, not a chat channel
[11:22] <Tassinar> I'm attempting to get Nautilus to open mp3s and the like in Rythymbox, but no luck... any forums and bug reports I've found so far seem to be vastly outdated, I get the impression that the kind of functionaly was dropped.
[11:23] <FreeDownload> see ya.
[11:23] <Tassinar> Has anyone played around with Rhytymbox and had that kind of thing happening, recently?
[11:26] <hsystemxX> hi, does anybody knows how to make gdm default login manager?
[11:26] <think3r> Hi, is there any way to get Alpine installed on 6.06 server (LTS, I think), I keep getting an error to do with libc6 and libssl0.9.8 being out of date. - new to IRC so be kind!
[11:26] <pawan> hi
[11:28]  * Tassinar watches a tumbleweed fly past
[11:29] <Tassinar> Seems that running `rhythymbox <argument>` works fine if it's already running, but not if it's not. Oh well, good enough.
[11:30] <pawan> how to change wallpaper
[11:30] <Tassinar> System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[11:31] <nmsa> !search vpn
[11:31] <ubotu> Found: vpn
[11:32] <|WolF1> Question: where can i find .run ?
[11:32] <tokok> sudo find / -name '*.run'
[11:33] <nmsa> ubotu, tell nmsa about vpn
[11:34] <|WolF1> tokok: it says: bash: .run: command not found
[11:34] <BenderUnit22> |WolF1: what are you looking for precisely?
[11:34] <|WolF1> Install .run packages
[11:35] <BenderUnit22> How to install them? Type "sh <filename>.run" in a terminal.
[11:35] <space> ola
[11:35] <BenderUnit22> Make sure the source of the .run file is thrustworthy.
[11:35] <ikonia> |WolF1: if this is nvidia drivers - don't
[11:35] <|WolF1> 10x
[11:35] <space> oi
[11:35] <|WolF1> no it is essentials
[11:35] <ikonia> |WolF1: what is
[11:35] <tokok> and "chmod +x pakagename" before runnung sh
[11:36] <BenderUnit22> tokok: don't have to, I thought, unless you want to run it with ./?
[11:36] <tarelerulz> What is a good program for burning a normal audio cd from mp3 files. I tyr k3b and It failed .
[11:36] <BenderUnit22> tarelerulz: try brasero.
[11:37] <BenderUnit22> (or find out why k3b failed)
[11:37] <tparcina> ssh connection, how to transfer data (using some program with graphical interface)?
[11:37] <tokok> BenderUnit22: you are right
[11:37] <space> hi
[11:37] <tparcina> I mean, when I establish ssh connection, how to transfer data then?
[11:37] <|WolF1> Question: how can i check if i have successfully installed gcc?
[11:37] <BenderUnit22> tparcina: just learn scp and/or sftp, not sure about a GUI program...
[11:37] <ryann> DotA
[11:38] <BenderUnit22> |WolF1: just run gcc -v.
[11:38] <pecisk> is there proper guide for messing around USB permissions? I know I have to modify udev rules, but where, how, etc. I can't find
[11:38] <space> hey
[11:38] <BenderUnit22> !hi | space
[11:38] <ubotu> space: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:39] <livenicely>  copy vcd into my hard drive
[11:39] <livenicely> i have ext3 partition
[11:39] <tparcina> BenderUnit22: ok, so when I establich ssh connection like - ssh user@ip_addr, ant how would I transfer data with sftp? should I establish another connection or I transfer data thrue this one?
[11:39] <livenicely> inother words i cant copy .dat files to my hard driver from vcd
[11:39] <tarelerulz> BenderUnit22 ,does Ubuntu native come with program for make normal audio cd out of mp3 ?
[11:40] <space> where you from??
[11:40] <BenderUnit22> tarelerulz: well, cdrecord/wodim is excellent from the command line... But how do you mean "native"?
[11:40] <space> where you from
[11:40] <BenderUnit22> tparcina: you don't have to use ssh separately.
[11:40] <BenderUnit22> tparcina: example scp command: scp user@host:/path/to/file .
[11:40] <tparcina> BenderUnit22: but I need ssh for cli
[11:41] <BenderUnit22> tparcina: if you've installed ssh, the client programs scp and sftp should already be there as well.
[11:41] <tarelerulz> I mean when you install Ubuntu from the cd does it have programs for burning  normal audio cd from mp3 .
[11:41] <livenicely>  copy vcd into my hard drive
 i have ext3 partition
 inother words i cant copy .dat files to my hard driver from vcd
[11:41] <BenderUnit22> tarelerulz: Serpentine, I believe. Neve rused it, though.
[11:41] <|WolF1> Question: *** exact error that occured. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed.
[11:41] <|WolF1> configure: error: "Cannot find glib"
[11:41] <tparcina> BenderUnit22: I haven't install it seperately, it's ssh that comes with Ubuntu 7.10 distribution
[11:41] <BenderUnit22> |WolF1: not sure what you're installing, but try installing libglib2.0-dev or something the like.
[11:42] <BenderUnit22> tparcina: so don't bother, you can use scp all right, normally, then.
[11:42] <|WolF1> BenderUnit22:  xchat
[11:42] <|WolF1> how can i install libglib2.0-dev ?
[11:43] <tparcina> BenderUnit22: so, when I establish ssh connection I just execute scp user@host:/path and he will use the same connection (he won't try to establish one more)?
[11:43] <ikonia> |WolF1: what are you trying to actually install
[11:43] <|WolF1> ikonia: xchat
[11:43] <Seveas> |WolF1, install it from the repositories
[11:43] <Seveas> don't compile it yourself :)
[11:43] <ikonia> |WolF1: xwhat is available from the ubuntu repos
[11:43] <ikonia> |WolF1: it's also got a version with gnome bindings
[11:44] <Seveas> ikonia, I love that typo :)
[11:44] <|WolF1> i have live cd so i can't find it :(
[11:44] <ikonia> Seveas: just noticed it myself
[11:44] <ikonia> |WolF1: it's on the livecd
[11:44] <ikonia> |WolF1: or the interenet repo's
[11:44] <Seveas> ikonia, it's not on the livecd since feisty iirc
[11:45] <ikonia> Seveas: ooh, I stand corrected then
[11:45] <Seveas> |WolF1, install ubuntu first, makes life easier
[11:45] <ikonia> |WolF1: dragging from an internet repo will be more time effective than trying to compile it on a live cd
[11:45] <void^> tparcina: if you want to reuse an existing ssh connection for scp you have to use some extra ssh options, ControlMaster and ControlPath. see 'man ssh_config'.
[11:45] <|WolF1> ikonia: how can i do that?
[11:45] <donald_> why doesn't the Ubuntu version of mplayer include AMR in the compile options?
[11:45] <ikonia> |WolF1: apt-get install xchat-gnome
[11:46]  * mopflite likes irssi
[11:46] <Seveas> |WolF1, enable the community software sources via system -> admin -> software sources
[11:46] <SleepingSloth> ikonia - what is special about xchat-gnome as opposed to standard xchat?
[11:46] <Seveas> SleepingSloth, it sucks even harder :)
[11:46] <SleepingSloth> Seveas, you don't like xchat?
[11:46] <tparcina> void^: ok, thank you. I'll read about it.
[11:47] <SleepingSloth> Seveas, i just use what i know - if there's a better alternative, let me know :)
[11:47] <Seveas> SleepingSloth, I like xchat, use it all the time. It has its downsides though and xchat-gnome has all of those and many more :)
[11:47] <zoobox> how do I do to add a keyboard shortcut without removing the old one? If I want to have ctrl-Esc for opening the Program menu, but allso keep Alt-F1 ?
[11:47] <fevel> hello
[11:47] <Seveas> zoobox, you don't
[11:48] <SleepingSloth> Seveas, ah, i see. i expect those downsides are best discussed elsewhere. the big upside for me is that its in the repository... and when you're as lazy as i am, that makes it a winner....
[11:48] <zoobox> it must be possible somehow, right?
[11:48] <Seveas> SleepingSloth, :)
[11:48] <zoobox> hello fevel
[11:49] <fevel> im having trouble with a bug...I installed flashplugin non free for firefox but it keeps asking for the codec, ive tried reinstalling it but it still asks for the codec. Can anyone help?
[11:50] <zoobox> Seveas: I thought I perhaps can edit some settingsfile where the keyboard shortcut window put the settings?
[11:50] <Seveas> zoobox, but you can only associate one key combo with an action :)
[11:51] <zoobox> fevel, I believe there perhaps is still some problemd with the flashplugin non free. it isn't installed correctly. you can install the flashpluginfile manually instead.
[11:52] <fevel> zoobox, Ive tried removing it with synaptic and then reinstalling it. Is there a more manual way to do it?
[11:52] <Seveas> !flash
[11:52] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[11:53] <yomm> How can I make a .deb package from an installed software package ?? (it's not in the apt-cache...)
[11:53] <philstar> so if I want to get a wubi more recent than 7.04, should I go for 7.10 or 8.04?
[11:53] <zoobox> fevel: (but I really though that the flash problem was fixed allread?) but the easiest way is to copy the flashpluginfile to mozillas plugindirectory
[11:54] <zoobox>  /msg ubotu FlashIssues
[11:54] <|WolF1> question: does live cd has any firewall included, or i should get one on my own?
[11:55] <fevel> all linux have iptabvles
[11:55] <tarelerulz> I must say Ubuntu rocks once more .  I was bit mad when I thought I could not burn a normal cd out of mp3  for a friend .
[11:55] <fevel> *iptables
[11:55] <ikonia> tarelerulz you've said that - thanks
[11:55] <Seveas> philstar, 7.10
[11:56] <ikonia> |WolF1: if your running a livecd - I wouldn't waste your time with firewalls as when you reboot all your data will be fone
[11:56] <ikonia> gone
[11:56] <Seveas> !firewall | |WolF1
[11:56] <ubotu> |WolF1: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:56] <zoobox> yomm, is it ok for me to say "me too" ? ;-) I want to learn how to make deb-files too. I've read a little about it and isn't verry simple
[11:57] <|WolF1> ikonia i have installed ubuntu on hdd from live cd
[11:57] <zoobox> so when you find the perfect guide for deb-making, tell me too :)
[11:57] <Seveas> !packagingguide | zoobox, yomm
[11:57] <ubotu> zoobox, yomm: packagingguide is The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[11:57] <|WolF1> it is my permanent and only one OS
[11:57] <ikonia> |WolF1: right - so why are you saying you can't find it on the livecd
[11:57] <zoobox> aha
[11:57] <Seveas> !packagingguide
[11:57] <tokok> i have a problem with firestarter, it says select internet connection, but i have 2 internet connections, and if i select one, other dies
[11:57] <|WolF1> becouse livecd is only cd i have from
[11:57] <tarelerulz> now if I was good a drawing , I could do a cool graffie style of my screen name haha ,but that is wishful thinking haha
[11:58] <ikonia> |WolF1: you download the packages from the internet
[11:58] <|WolF1> yeah but i'm preaty new to this so i don't know what i need what i don't
[11:58] <|WolF1> i'm sorry if i'm bothering
[11:58] <yomm> leave
[11:58] <ikonia> not bothering at all
[11:58] <simion314> hi, in nautilus places panel i have a shortcut for floppy 1 but i do not have a flopy and i want to remove it from there, i can't do that with right click
[11:58] <ikonia> yomm: pardon ?
[11:59] <tarelerulz> Have any of you burned a normal audio cd with Nautilus ?
[12:01] <southroad> 有说中文的同志马？
[12:02] <tokok> southroad: nice pictures, what they mean?
[12:02] <Seveas> !ch | southroad
[12:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <Seveas> !cn | southroad
[12:02] <ubotu> southroad: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[12:03] <nullvoid> how can I start ivman? everytime i issue /etc/init.d/ivman start I got something like do_startup_configure and no process of ivman :(
[12:06] <samad909> hi, i have lost sound on my audigy value card
[12:07] <tokok> samad909: this is bad
[12:07] <samad909> tokok: ?
[12:07] <samad909> tokok: why is it?
[12:07] <samad909> tokok: it was working fine, i changed devices and changed it back and it is gone
[12:08] <|Dreams|> does anyone know who makes the tvs Baird
[12:08] <|Dreams|> searched google cant find nothing
[12:08] <muty-bg> Hi any idea how can I add files to an extining deb archive? wny idea
[12:08] <muty-bg> s
[12:09] <MidasWS> www.bairdtelevision.com
[12:10] <|Dreams|> thats on the old baird i have just purchased a new one i think it is just a name they stick on the front
[12:10] <samad909> anyone have any ideas why the sound is not working?
[12:10] <muty-bg> Actually what I need to do is put some missing files in a linux-headers but I'm not very shure how to repackage it
[12:11] <Cobra_Fast> hello
[12:11] <nmsa> hello
[12:11] <donald_> samad909: sound on what hardware?
[12:11] <samad909> donald_: audigy value
[12:12] <Cobra_Fast> i have a problem with grub. it does not start properly with the default original kernel. only the recovery works. when i try to start normal with default error 15 appears
[12:12] <StrangeCharm_> i'm having trouble hibernating on a fujitsu-siemens lifebook p7230. on the hcl, it's listed as working ok. i'm using the intel experimental modsetting graphics driver. i have more swap space than i have ram; i even have more empty swap space than i have ram. i see the hibernate icon in power options dialogue. however, when i click on it, i get a black screen with a blinking cursor in the top left, and this persists for as long as i leave the compu
[12:12] <StrangeCharm_> ter running. when i force a power-off, and turn it back on, i just get a normal startup. any ideas?
[12:13] <Cobra_Fast> the system i'm trying to run is on a SATA RAID 0 and there is also an IDE harddisk
[12:13] <esperegu> anybody knows how one can decrypt a pdf? I want to remove the password and be able to select the text
[12:13] <PriitM_> Hi, I have found that some files my music directory have been deleted and some have been moved to trash. I assume that's a reason to worry about?
[12:14] <philstar> Seveas: wubi 7.10 works for you?
[12:14] <Seveas> philstar, I never tried wubi
[12:15] <philstar> Seveas: you see, the interesting detail here is that 8.04 has a more recent version, although that could mean that 7.10 has become quite stable
[12:15] <samad909> don't tell me no one knows why this is causing an issue...I am using an audigy value card and suddenly sound is gone after changing devices and changing them back again
[12:15] <philstar> http://wubi-installer.org/devel/minefield/ for reference
[12:15] <Seveas> philstar, ubuntu 8.04 is nowhere near stable though
[12:15] <SleepingSloth> !wubi
[12:15] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[12:16] <SleepingSloth> you live and learn
[12:16] <philstar> Seveas: okay, thanks :)
[12:18] <Dave_is_sexy> How come Ubuntu doesn't use the Debian Standard Core?
[12:19] <oalbech> just downloaded a .deb package with a printer driver, but when i try to run it i'm being told that 'Only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time'. I dont have another manager running though
[12:20] <spq> how do i say grub to boot windows? (i want grub to present a menu instead of directly booting to ubuntu)
[12:21] <philstar> spq: rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[12:21] <philstar> 	chainloader +1
[12:21] <philstar> in the simplest case
[12:22] <spq> ok
[12:22] <spq> i can modify that to use the second partition - thanks
[12:22] <philstar> spq: if windows is on a partition other than hda1, you need (hdx,y)
[12:22] <philstar> where x is the number of hdd, and y the partition
[12:23] <Squee> how do I count the lines in a file from bash?
[12:23] <rolf> Squee: wc -l
[12:23] <Squee> rolf: thanks
[12:24] <balbir> how can i install beryl/compiz in ubuntu ?
[12:26] <nullvoid> balbir: http://linux.about.com/b/2008/01/05/setting-up-compizfusion-3d-desktop-in-ubuntu.htm
[12:26] <moon_g> hello
[12:26] <moon_g> ?
[12:26] <zoobox> balbir: compiz is allready installed I think
[12:26] <Squee> moon_g:  Howdy
[12:26] <balbir> i Tried compiz but it failed saying
[12:26] <balbir> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[12:26] <balbir> No whitelisted driver found
[12:26] <balbir> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[12:26] <FloodBot3> balbir: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:26] <balbir> or sorry
[12:26] <moon_g> first time here ,  howdy squee
[12:27] <Squee> balbir:  that means there is an issue with your video card and compiz, or isn't tested
[12:27] <samad909> anyone have experience with audigy value soundcard in ubuntu?
[12:27] <StrangeCharm_> i'm having some trouble making a couple of raid arrays with the alt installer. i have six disks attached to this machine: one 160gb attached to the board's sata controller, one 40gb attached to the board's ide controller, three 300gb and one 320gb attached to an add-in card that claims to be a raid card, but actually just seems to be a raidless sata controller. i'm trying to set up the following system: a 900gb raid5 using the first 300gb of the f
[12:27] <StrangeCharm_> our disks on the add-in card on which to put /var/files; a 40gb raid-striped for / and swap using 20gb each from the 40 and the 160, which will be backed up on a raid5 made of the last 20gb each of the 320, 160 and 40; a 120gb but of spare space on the 160gb, and a 255mb partition at the start of the 40gb for /boot (the system is set to boot from ide drives first). i started up the alt-install disk for 7.10, opened a tty, and dd'd urandom over the
[12:27] <StrangeCharm_>  first 512mb of each of the disks, then rebooted. once i got to the partitioner, i marked my disks for partitions necessary to make the above, but when i go in to configure software raid, i don't find all of the partitions that i marked as being available for raid actually being available. if i go to delete multidisk devices, i find 'md1', ':', inactive', 'sdb1 [2]', and 'mdo_raid5', none of which i can delete. the only one of these that appears t
[12:27] <StrangeCharm_> o have any component devices is md0_raid5 which had three of my 300gb paritions on it, however, when i return to the main partitioning menu, i find raid5 device #0 with 900gb of free space on it. what on earth is going on?
[12:27] <moon_g> not actually a newbie in ubuntu, but i got something to ask
[12:27] <moon_g> :)
[12:27] <zoobox> balbir: hm... what graphic card do you have? it seems to be some problem finding a 3d capable driver?
[12:27] <Squee> moon_g: go for it
[12:27] <PriitM> Is there any ways to see if user has deleted some files from his home dir?
[12:27] <StrangeCharm_> ask | moon_g
[12:27] <moon_g> it about gfxboot
[12:27] <StrangeCharm_> !ask | moon_g
[12:28] <ubotu> moon_g: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[12:28] <Squee> PriitM:  "history |grep -rm" as the user i suppose
[12:28] <zoobox> StrangeCharm_: most people thing that is way to much to read.....
[12:28] <balbir> zoobox: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M56GL [Mobility FireGL V5200]
[12:28] <moon_g> oh ok
[12:28] <moon_g> how to get gfxboot up and going
[12:28] <Squee> moon_g: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208855
[12:28] <moon_g> i followed the ubuntu forum without much luck
[12:28] <Squee> ahh
[12:28] <moon_g> :)
[12:29] <moon_g> been self studying linux for a while, but having a hard time with cli
[12:29] <Squee> moon_g: I don't know what to tell you, I've actually used that exact same tutorial and it worked.
[12:29] <StrangeCharm_> zoobox: i i put any less, and ound someone who actually did know what was going on, they'd just ask me for the rest of it. also, i didn't realise how long it would be
[12:29] <Dr_willis> Why do people always say the cli is hard? its rather straight forward. :
[12:30] <Dr_willis> when in doubt learn the fundamentals. :) then you start chaining the fundamental ideas together. Sort of like Legos.
[12:30] <StrangeCharm_> Dr_willis: different people have different intuitions about things
[12:30] <hottium> It might be confusing at start
[12:30] <moon_g> thanks strangecharm
[12:31] <StrangeCharm_> Dr_willis: also, when referring to multiple pieces of a lego toy, the plural is lego, or lego bricks. lego is not really a noun
[12:31] <moon_g> it's not that ive having a hard time, sometimes i forgot
[12:31] <balbir> zoobox: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M56GL [Mobility FireGL V5200] I installed the proparitary driver for ATI
[12:31] <Dr_willis> Been 'teaching' a guy at work about linux.   He was going on about how hard the cli was.. asked him if he had read any of the tutorials id given him.. Nope.. :)
[12:31] <Squee> moon_g: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unix_programs - play with some of these
[12:31] <Dr_willis> StrangeCharm_,  Lego My ego!
[12:31] <Dr_willis> :P
[12:31] <StrangeCharm_> Dr_willis: how did i know that was coming... :p
[12:31] <Dr_willis> StrangeCharm_,  it is breakfast time here.
[12:32] <dbmoodb> does the 64bit version of ubuntu work with wine ?
[12:32] <Squee> Dr_willis: I was teaching someone debian instead of windows, once they started understanding how intuitive it was they converted completely. (less than a week)
[12:32] <sarmisak> dbmoodb: yeah it works
[12:32] <moon_g> how's the gfxboot differ from the gfxboot in synaptic package manager, it seems that the one in SPM is more updated
[12:32] <StrangeCharm_> Dr_willis: lunch here, but given my sleep cycle, that's more like random-snack time
[12:32] <Dr_willis> StrangeCharm_,  i work 3rd shift now.. Its breakfast.. then bed time for me.
[12:33] <StrangeCharm_> Dr_willis: ouch
[12:33] <Squee> moon_g: if it is in synaptic, use that.  I think he built in for other users in the forums when it wasn't already pre-packaged
[12:33] <eugman|work> What command line command checks disk space?
[12:33] <Squee> df -h
[12:33] <Dr_willis> I like        df -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs
[12:35] <moon_g> but the one in synaptic doesn't have any guide whatsoever, anyway i'll give the guide in the forum another shot
[12:36] <ludal-live> hello all, I'm on a xubuntu LiveCD and I'd like to copy some files from my HDD to an external usb HDD but I can't
[12:36] <ludal-live> the mount command give me : /dev/sda1 on /media/LaCie type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=999,utf8,umask=077)
[12:36] <ludal-live> for my HDD
[12:37] <ludal-live> can sbdy help me ?
[12:37] <sarmisak> so?
[12:37] <sarmisak> what's the problem
[12:37]  * zoom is away: Occupé
[12:37] <eugman|work> I have a server install, is it possible install the gui stuff but have it start up only when I call it from the command line?
[12:37] <mavi-> eugman|work: sure
[12:38] <moon_g> To Squee: the line that i don't understand in the forum guide is "gfxmenu /boot/grub/message.suse # the suse can be replaced"
[12:38] <ludal-live> sarmisak: I can't copy, it says that it's mounted in read-only
[12:38] <Pici> !away > zoom (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[12:38] <moon_g> where do i put it?
[12:38] <sarmisak> it's not ntfs right?
[12:38] <ludal-live> no, fat32
[12:38] <Squee> moon_g: I think that the message.suse file was a theme.  You should be able to find a message.ubuntu
[12:39] <sarmisak> actually it seems to be mounted rw
[12:39] <sarmisak> read/write
[12:39] <Squee> moon_g: until you have it working, i'd recommend leave it at message.suse
[12:39] <sarmisak> did you try to cp something with sudo cp /path/smthign /mdia/disk/smthing
[12:39] <moon_g> someone told me to put the line in the first line in the menu.lst
[12:39] <ludal-live> no, with gui
[12:39] <ludal-live> I'll try
[12:40] <sarmisak> just popup a terminal
[12:40] <moon_g> yup, im trying to make it as simple as possible
[12:40] <sarmisak> it's usually the access restrictions
[12:40] <moon_g> how do i make it use gfxboot
[12:40] <sarmisak> the fastest way is sudo mkdir /media/disk/dir_name
[12:40] <sarmisak> and then sudo chmod 0777 /media/disk/dir_name
[12:41] <sarmisak> then you can r/w from the gui much easier
[12:41] <Squee> moon_g: i think you just put that line in the /boot/grub/menu.lst.  It also might be a command - i'm not sure
[12:41] <zoobox> balbir, this chatroom is scolling way to fast with all people going in and out.... have you find any soloution?
[12:41] <Squee> moon_g:  yea just put it as the first line
[12:42] <balbir> zoobox: not yet :(
[12:42] <ludal-live> I get the cp: omission du répertoire `/media/disk-2/ludo/Desktop/sauvegardeSTOREX/spectacles/' error
[12:42] <moon_g> without "#"
[12:42] <moon_g> ?
[12:42] <ludal-live> I'm french :)
[12:42] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. was this a vfat or ntfs filesystem?  I dident think one can chmod those.
[12:42] <Squee> moon_g: # is a comment, so it shouln't matter if it is there
[12:42] <moon_g> oh ok, thanks a lot
[12:43] <sarmisak> ludal-live: sorry my french is not that good :)
[12:43] <ygorabreu> Hello guys....anyone know how to make nice pdf documents on gutsy using openoffice ? and a good software to do traductions ?
[12:43] <moon_g> i'm kinda want to have grub menu just like suse :)
[12:43] <Squee> moon_g: no problem, but just so you know I stopped using that package because my grub would occasionally just lock up (never happend before I installed that)
[12:43] <sarmisak> ludal-live: can you read from the source?
[12:44] <sarmisak> ygorabreu: just type it, push the pdf button on the toolbar?
[12:44] <moon_g> oh ok, just wondering why it's been implemented suse for sometime now and it's missing in ubuntu
[12:44] <zoobox> balbir: since you have installed the proparitary ATI-driver, compiz should just work in ubuntu 7.10 byt just checking Extra in the visual Effects, without need to install anything
[12:44] <Squee> ygorabreu: file->export to pdf from any Openoffice program
[12:44] <ygorabreu> simple as that ? for sure? =P
[12:44] <Squee> ygorabreu: yes
[12:44] <fevel> whats a good substitute for itunes? One that would work with my ipodtouch and I could see podcasts from? does one exist?
[12:45] <sarmisak> ygorabreu: i'm using it since it was called staroffice? i think i'm pretty sure
[12:45] <sarmisak> fevel:
[12:45] <ygorabreu> sarmisak,squee: sry..thx for the help... i didnt know..i just got a fresh gutsy installation and im starting to work here...
[12:45] <sarmisak> fevel: try rhytmbox?
[12:45] <Squee> fevel: i use rhythmbox
[12:45] <fevel> isnt amarok better?
[12:45] <sarmisak> ygorabreu: ;) n.p.
[12:45] <fevel> a person once told me
[12:45] <Squee> ygorabreu: not a problem, that is exactly what this channel is for
[12:45] <ygorabreu> sarmisak_: and to edit and stuff..i still need to use the openoffice right?
[12:46] <sarmisak> fevel: i couldn't get used to it :)
[12:46] <Cooltiger> hello
[12:46] <Squee> sarmisak: you could try songbird
[12:46] <fevel> sarmisak, is ubuntu the only distro you use??
[12:46] <ygorabreu> thx guys..and ... u guys know a nice soft to do translations?
[12:46] <sarmisak> ygorabreu: you can't edit pdf's directly, you can type and export as much as you want from the original document
[12:46] <zoom> zoobox>>> no with my card with proparitary driver compiz don t work for example: ati mobility radeon 9700
[12:46] <moon_g> goodbye, thanks to those who helped me
[12:46] <Dr_willis> fevel,  ubuntu is one of the most easy disrtos to use.
[12:47] <sarmisak> fevel: i have tried pardus -which is distributed by a turkish team- but mostly ubuntu
[12:47] <Dr_willis> fevel,  oope  i ,miss read that. :) its late for me. never mind.
[12:47] <juice_> can someone tell me why i have to install 7.10 in safe graphics mode? i have a 8800 GT on an ASUS board.
[12:47] <sarmisak> i like gnome better
[12:47] <juice_> x64 edition that is
[12:47] <fevel> Dr_willis, Can I use it for server also? or is it not a good idea?
[12:47] <sarmisak> juice_: amd64?
[12:47] <Truman> s
[12:47] <Truman> sada
[12:47] <juice_> sarmiski: yes
[12:47] <juice_> sarmisak:
[12:47] <Truman> hallo
[12:47] <Dr_willis> fevel,  it can do server tasks also. I have a ubuntu box thats a samba server, printserver, and mythtv server. :)
[12:47] <sarmisak> juice_: it's broken :) i couldn't install it from live cd either
[12:48] <Truman> noob
[12:48] <juice_> sarmisak: howd u fix it?
[12:48] <Cooltiger> jopp
[12:48] <rhach> hello
[12:48] <darkhelfer> hi
[12:48] <sarmisak> juice_: actually try to install i386 version, some packages -like flash player- is not working in amd64 version
[12:48] <fevel> Dr_willis, how about email server, vpn, proxy and firewall??
[12:48] <SleepingSloth> Truman, ?
[12:48] <Dr_willis> juice_,   For my systems the Monitor and otehr stuff dosent work 100% untill i get the actual nvidia drivers installed. Wrong and so forth.
[12:48] <sarmisak> juice_: installed from an alternate install cd
[12:48] <Dr_willis> fevel,  it can do those.
[12:48] <fevel> Dr_willis, do you recommend it?
[12:48] <Dr_willis> fevel,  most all disrtos can handle the various server tasks
[12:49] <sarmisak> fevel: i have an ubuntu server
[12:49] <rhach> hello some germans here?
[12:49] <zoobox> zoom, aha.. ok I have allways avoided ati-cards..... I hope they get better now when amd are opensource-friendly
[12:49] <juice_> sarmisak: so i have to use the 32 bit version then install drivers from nvidia site?
[12:49] <Dr_willis> fevel,  depends on your needs.   for a company of<PHONE_NUMBER>0000 people.. :)  you may not want to.. For your House.. No problem.
[12:49] <sarmisak> fevel: it works real good
[12:49] <sarmisak> juice_: exactly ;)
[12:49] <erUSUL> sarmisak: the flashplayer-nonfre works on 64 bit with nsplginwrapper (well not now becouse the package is broken in both architectures)
[12:49] <juice_> weak
[12:49] <darkhelfer> i have new install Ubuntu and have a Geforce TNT 2, how i install a good driver for it ?
[12:49] <juice_> sarmisak: is someone working on the problem?
[12:49] <Dr_willis> !nvidia | darkhelfer
[12:50] <ubotu> darkhelfer: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:50] <Cooltiger> oh gott
[12:50] <Cooltiger> ruhe
[12:50] <St> jo
[12:50] <sarmisak> erUSUL: i know, but i needed some other packages also, what breaks people mostly is the flash player -youtube you know-
[12:50] <zoobox> rhach: there is probably a german ubuntu-chatroom too
[12:50] <iratiku> #ubuntu-de
[12:50] <rhach> oh thanks ^
[12:50] <Cooltiger> ???
[12:50] <sarmisak> juice_: yeah, but it's proprieatery so we'll have to wait for adobe to make another package
[12:51] <iratiku> I know you guys are all busy answering questions and I appreciate your help .... but I'm trying to setup a quick image server.... can't figure out how to start partimaged... i see there is a package partimage (gutsy btw...) but i've got that installed and ps ax | grep partimaged shows up nothing and there is no entry in /etc/init.d
[12:51] <iratiku> how do i do it?
[12:51] <sarmisak> juice_: but as erUSUL has said there is a way to install it
[12:51] <iratiku> install from source?
[12:51] <juice_> sarmisak: adobe?
[12:51] <sarmisak> juice_: sorry :) it wasn't for you
[12:51] <sarmisak> juice_: yes they are working on it but no news yet
[12:51] <oalbech> when trying to print it tells me the application/postscript not found.. what do i need to install?
[12:52] <juice_> sarmisak: oh the flash player i got to work but i want the drivers 4 my vid card
[12:52] <fevel> can I get Ipod touch working on ubuntu??
[12:52] <ctp> hi folks. anyone here can say me how stable hardy actually is for desktop use?
[12:52] <fevel> I just got one
[12:52] <sarmisak> juice_: what's the card?
[12:52] <juice_> sarmisak: ne way around it?
[12:52] <juice_> sarmisak: 8800 GT
[12:52] <ctp> any known trouble with hardy?
[12:52] <erUSUL> sarmisak: for mi the way was "go to youtube.com and try to watch a video; system ask me to enable flashplayer i say ok and give my password close firefox open it again done"
[12:52] <iratiku> nevermind guys
[12:52] <Pici> !hardy | ctp
[12:52] <ubotu> ctp: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[12:52] <iratiku> package is partimage-server
[12:52] <erUSUL> ctp: a lot i spect is not even beta
[12:52] <sarmisak> erUSUL: try it with AMD64 distro ;)
[12:53] <erUSUL> sarmisak: i did
[12:53] <darkhelfer> reboot ^
[12:53] <darkhelfer> ^^
[12:53] <Truman> hallo
[12:53] <zoom> zoobox>>> yes :)
[12:53] <erUSUL> sarmisak: i run a 64 bit distro and tha's how i installed flash
[12:53] <sarmisak> erUSUL: then it was my mistake i couldn't do it directly
[12:53] <ctp> erUSUL: ok
[12:53] <erUSUL> sarmisak: i'm talkiing first hand
[12:53] <juice_> erUSUL: u run nvidia card?
[12:53] <sarmisak> erUSUL: is it gutsy? i had a major problem installing flash player
[12:54] <Truman> hallo
[12:54] <sarmisak> erUSUL: i installed it after googling
[12:54] <erUSUL> sarmisak: works fine in gutsy (feisty and older was much trickier)
[12:54] <sarmisak> erUSUL: but it wasn't click and install
[12:54] <erUSUL> juice_: yes i do a 7300GT
[12:54] <sarmisak> juice_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[12:54] <Dr_willis> I just grabbed the deb off the 2nd factoid the bot mentions in !flash  and that gets flash going for me. But I hear its still broke in konqueror.
[12:54] <rhach> @truman hallo ^^
[12:54] <Truman> 7600GT
[12:54] <sarmisak> juice_: that would install the latest drivers for you nv card
[12:54] <juice_> sarmisak: 8800 GT. for the flash player choose the second option when u see flash player options
[12:55] <erUSUL> juice_: system>Admin>restricted manager and enable the nvidia driver
[12:55] <Truman> hallo
[12:55] <juice_> erUSUL: i had no drivers to begin with so restricted driver manager will not open ne ways ;)
[12:56] <Jay955> morning all
[12:56] <erUSUL> juice_: not even safe graphics mode?
[12:56] <juice_> erUSUL: i installed in safe mode
[12:56] <Jay955> i'm new to this and can use some help
[12:56] <darkhelfer> how i can change my resolution to 1280 ? its only 800x600 avaible
[12:57] <sarmisak> darkhelfer: nvidia? ati?
[12:57] <Dr_willis> During the install the nvidia cards should get set to use the 'nv' drivers - that should provide at least a useable desktop :) untill you can install the other drivers.
[12:57] <erUSUL> juice_: but when you but you do not land in safe graphics mode?
[12:57] <darkhelfer> nvidia
[12:57] <juice_> erUSUL: but i just did the apt-get and DL fom nvidia and neither work
[12:57] <sarmisak> darkhelfer: try installing the drivers
[12:57] <juice_> erUSUL: syntax???
[12:57] <erUSUL> juice_: is 8800gt?
[12:57] <juice_> erUSUL: yes
[12:57] <sarmisak> darkhelfer: popup a terminal, type sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[12:57] <Dr_willis> darkhelfer,  i have to install the nvidia drivers for my res/monitors to get used properly at their proper res.
[12:57] <darkhelfer> have installed the restricted drivers
[12:58] <Dr_willis> after installing them restart the X server.
[12:58] <sarmisak> darkhelfer: then try the change resolution thing in system > preferences
[12:58] <juice_> erUSUL: maybe my card dont like me?
[12:58] <sarmisak> juice_: i didn't know that cards had options of liking/disliking ;)
[12:59] <darkhelfer> there it only 800x600 and 640x480
[12:59] <thomasthomas> hi
[12:59] <juice_> sarmisak: there is a switch on the back like the crusty clown dolls in simpsons
[12:59] <erUSUL> juice_: dunno; have you tried with the nv driver to get at least a 2d desktop?
[12:59] <thomasthomas> HOLA
[12:59] <thomasthomas> HOLA
[12:59] <thomasthomas> HOLA
[12:59] <thomasthomas> HOLA
[12:59] <thomasthomas> HOLA
[12:59] <thomasthomas> HOLA
[12:59] <FloodBot3> thomasthomas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:59] <Dr_willis> Guess im lucky my 8800 card works great with the repo drivers.
[12:59] <filthpig> I get terrible sound when playing mp3s in rockbox. They sound just fine with totem
[12:59] <juice_> erUSUL: i have desktop and all but i cant enable custom animation and the like
[13:00] <erUSUL> Dr_willis: i was under the impression that 8800 needed nvidia.com drivers (169.09)
[13:00] <Jay955> i just setup Ubuntu, i'm sharing a folder but i can't get to it from the windows side what i'm i missing
[13:00] <Dr_willis> erUSUL,  i got an 8800 gts here. and just use the ones the restricted-manager gives me.
[13:00] <sarmisak> Jay955: are you sharing with samba?
[13:00] <erUSUL> Dr_willis: good to know
[13:00] <Jay955> yes i am
[13:00] <Dr_willis> erUSUL,  only issue i have is with twinview  and Gnome/KDE sort of getting my 2 monitors switched. :) KDM shows up on the one to the side.
[13:01] <darkhelfer> sarmisak: can i use "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new" with the Nvidia TNT2 ? think i only can use legacy
[13:01] <Jay955> when on the windows side it's asking me for user and password
[13:01] <sarmisak> darkhelfer: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx then ;)
[13:01] <juice_> dr_willis: u 7.10 amd64?
[13:01] <darkhelfer> thx
[13:01] <sarmisak> Jay955: sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf
[13:01] <Dr_willis> juice_,  i dont use 64bit disrtos. I got no need to use 64bit.
[13:02] <erUSUL> juice_: dunno what it is wrong wth your setup... my card works well with both the packaged drivers and with the nvidia.com ones (what i currently use)
[13:02] <sarmisak> Jay955: find the line that says security = user
[13:02] <sarmisak> Jay955: uncomment it and change it to security=share
[13:02] <Dr_willis> I wonder if thers not some bios/card issues going on with the drivers in some cases.
[13:02] <erUSUL> juice_: but it is and older model 7300GT
[13:02] <juice_> dr_willis: y not 64?
[13:02] <sarmisak> Jay955: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[13:02] <sarmisak> Jay955: that should do it
[13:02] <Dr_willis> juice_,  why 64?  I gain nothing.. and theres quirks to watch out for.
[13:02] <Jay955> thanks i will try brb
[13:03] <juice_> ic
[13:03] <sarmisak> Jay955: beware, this is not secure.
[13:03] <juice_> alright im out to reformat. peace ya'll
[13:03] <sarmisak> Jay955: if you want security you must create smb users etc, google it
[13:03] <Dr_willis> !samba | Jay955
[13:03] <ubotu> Jay955: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[13:03] <Jay955> thank
[13:03] <darkhelfer> and now restart X-Server ? how i can make this in the terminal or need restart complete ?
[13:04] <erUSUL> darkhelfer: crtl+alt+backspace
[13:04] <Dr_willis> darkhelfer,  hit alt-ctrl-backspace will FORCE it to restart right now. :) be sure to save yoru stuff first..
[13:04] <erUSUL> darkhelfer: or 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[13:04] <darkhelfer> or sudo reboot ? :D
[13:05] <Dr_willis> rebooting is NOT the same as restarting the X server
[13:05] <Dr_willis> :) its more drastic
[13:05] <idefix_> why on earth did I ever upgrade my linux?
[13:05] <Dr_willis> idefix_,  you wanted the wiggly windows?
[13:05] <SleepingSloth> idefix_,  was the grass greener?
[13:05] <SleepingSloth> Dr_willis,  hahah
[13:06] <SleepingSloth> Dr_willis, wobbly windows are lame
[13:06] <ivan_> здрасте
[13:06] <Dr_willis> MyWife : "Honey - i think the computer is broken, the windows i move around are all wiggly-jiggly!"
[13:06] <henry> lol
[13:06] <henry> cool
[13:07] <Dr_willis> Funny Because its True.. :P
[13:07] <Dr_willis> well its bed time for me. Night all.
[13:07] <SleepingSloth> Dr_willis,  lol.  you should lower the friction setting, or whatever it is, and see what heppens!!
[13:07] <henry> good night
[13:08] <sarmisak> SleepingSloth: ahahah it's cool when the friction changes :D
[13:08] <sarmisak> log out / log in
[13:09] <_marianne_> hey, i'm having an issue with video playback on an ubuntu derivative, i'm not sure if it's different enough from main ubuntu to matter, buuuut... i thought asking here was worth a go! half the time when i open video files, on any player that i've tried (vlc, mplayer, xine, even embedded ones in firefox), the image won't appear, it's just a garbled mess, a screenshot of which is here - http://xmoogle.org/images/vidproblem.jpg - sometimes
[13:10] <_marianne_> i can make the problem go away by closing random programs, sometimes i can't, it's really quite annoying.... any ideas?
[13:10] <doctorow> I'm in the middle of using Distribution Upgrade to take a machine from Feisty to Gutsy. It's been running fine for > 1h, but it seems to be hung on "Configuring xserver-xorg" -- it's been doing this for the past 5+ minutes with no visible progress. Is there a way to find out if this is hung? Will Distribution Update eventually skip to the next bit?
[13:11] <florin> hi
[13:12] <cyberleo> hello
[13:13] <StrangeCharm_> i'm having trouble hibernating on a fujitsu-siemens lifebook p7230. on the hcl, it's listed as working ok. i'm using the intel experimental modsetting graphics driver. i have more swap space than i have ram; i even have more empty swap space than i have ram. i see the hibernate icon in power options dialogue. however, when i click on it, i get a black screen with a blinking cursor in the top left, and this persists for as long as i leave the compu
[13:13] <StrangeCharm_> ter running. when i force a power-off, and turn it back on, i just get a normal startup. any ideas?
[13:13] <cyberleo> alguem fala portugues?
[13:13] <cyberleo> estou com uma duvida
[13:13] <dgjones> !pt
[13:13] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[13:13] <cyberleo> #ubuntubrasil-orkut
 where to i enter that.
[13:15] <doctorow> I'm in the middle of using Distribution Upgrade to take a machine from Feisty to Gutsy. It's been running fine for > 1h, but it seems to be hung on "Configuring xserver-xorg" -- it's been doing this for the past 5+ minutes with no visible progress. Is there a way to find out if this is hung? Will Distribution Update eventually skip to the next bit?
[13:15] <DarkHelfer03|Pen> öhm... the Nvidia driver and my X-Server not compatible >_>
[13:15] <DarkHelfer03|Pen> X-Server can not start
 like i say i'm new to this
[13:18] <Jay955> brb
[13:18] <gob1029> what channel do i go to for help with banshee?
[13:19] <swuboo> Does anyone know of an applet that will display the current date in the French revolutionary calendar?
[13:19] <filthpig> I get terrible sound when playing mp3s in rockbox. Sounds like electrical noise on the treble.. They sound just fine with totem.
[13:23] <dbmood1> if my friend install ubuntu gutsy in safe graphics mode on a laptop with a nvidia card will he have problems after rebooting with x.org starting up ?
[13:23] <swuboo> dbmoodb:  I don't really see any reason why he would, to be honest.
[13:24] <dbmoodb> ok cool
[13:24] <dbmoodb> but i have in the past had nvidia problems and just wondered what would happen...
[13:24] <swuboo> dbmoodb:  Then you probably know more than I.  I have an nvidia card, but I've got a desktop.
[13:25] <dbmoodb> k - some times the laptop's don't boot up they have a flashing coloured brown screen
[13:25] <dbmoodb> using the livecd
[13:25] <srujan> hi all
[13:25] <swuboo> dbmoodb:  Hm.  Don't know.  I'd suggest using the nvidia rather than nv driver, though.
[13:26] <dbmoodb> what is it by default in gutsy
[13:26] <srujan> I'm Srujan from india
[13:26] <dbmoodb> !intel wireless
[13:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel wireless - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:26] <dbmoodb> !centrino
[13:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about centrino - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:26] <dbmoodb> ....
[13:26] <srujan> I installed kubuntu and actually lost my admin privilages
[13:26] <oli> !kernel
[13:26] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[13:26] <dbmoodb> !backdoor
[13:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backdoor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:26] <dbmoodb> i mean grub
[13:27] <dbmoodb> !safe root
[13:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about safe root - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:27] <swuboo> dbmoodb:  The default is nv, I believe, since that's the open source driver.  The nvidia driver is the closed-source vendor version.
[13:27] <srujan> can anyone help?
[13:27] <dbmoodb> k sure just reboot and change a few things in the grub boot options
[13:27] <swuboo> srujan:  Lost them in what sense?  Does sudo work?
[13:27] <srujan> no
[13:27] <srujan> it doesn't
[13:27] <dbmoodb> push e to edit, and put in
[13:27] <swuboo> ...huh.
[13:27] <sarmisak> srujan: was it a reformat?
[13:27] <srujan> no
[13:28] <srujan> actually one of my friend unknowingly done that
[13:28] <sarmisak> hmms, popup a terminal and goto /etc folder
[13:28] <sarmisak> sudo nano group
[13:28] <srujan> i searched a lot but with no result
[13:28] <dbmoodb> he can't do that sarm
[13:28] <dbmoodb> can he ?
[13:28] <sarmisak> dbmoodb: god, no
[13:28] <sarmisak> dbmoodb: you are right
[13:28] <dbmoodb> just change the grub boot options
[13:28] <dbmoodb> tis easyt
[13:29] <srujan> sarmisak: nay help?
[13:30] <jrib> srujan: you need to reboot and choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu.  Then execute, without the quotes, 'adduse YOUR_USER_NAME', where YOUR_USER_NAME is your actual user name.  After that, reboot and use the GUI (System -> Adiministration -> Users and Groups) to add yourself to your other missing groups.
[13:30] <jrib> srujan: ack, I made a typo.  The command should be: adduser YOUR_USER_NAME
[13:31] <jrib> srujan: ack, I made a typo.  The command should be: adduser YOUR_USER_NAME admin
[13:31] <jrib> too early I guess...
[13:31] <srujan> :jrib actually i dont see any recovery mood whnile booting
[13:31] <srujan> there are some 5 options
[13:31] <jrib> srujan: one should say "recovery mode".  What 5 do you see?
[13:32] <srujan> one is root next kernel and other kernel with some code
[13:32] <srujan> next is quiet
[13:32] <srujan> and last is
[13:32] <srujan> i dont exactly remember
[13:32] <dbmoodb> eh ubuntu recovery mode from grub has no root password question ?
[13:32] <oli> how should i name end of file name (ex. .jpg) in english? :>
[13:32] <dbmoodb> jpeg ?
[13:32] <jrib> srujan: reboot and check.  It should be there unless you have removed it
[13:33] <srujan> i also have vista installed
[13:33] <jrib> oli: it's referred to as the file's "extension" if that is what you mean
[13:33] <srujan> so what it displays is ubuntu and next option is vista
[13:33] <pdowling> should Wubi detect this iso ubuntu-7.10-alternate-amd64.iso and install it, instead of ripping off the net again?
[13:33] <jrib> srujan: k, come back if it's not there
[13:33] <srujan> ok fine
[13:33] <oli> jrib: thats what i wanted to know, thanx
[13:33] <srujan> I should check for wht??
[13:34] <jrib> srujan: a line that says "recovery mode" somewhere
[13:34] <srujan> is der any command for that to write in grub?
[13:34] <jrib> srujan: and then run the 'adduser YOUR_USER_NAME admin' command
[13:34] <srujan> ok
[13:35] <srujan> :jrib is der any command for booting in recovery mode?
[13:35] <jrib> srujan: you don't need one.  It is listed by default
[13:36] <srujan> jrib: ok what will be displayed after the recovery booting? a direct command line ar anything else/
[13:37] <ritalin> y0
[13:37] <ritalin> ubuntu pretty good for laptops?
[13:37] <riotkittie> srujan: you'll be given a command line
[13:37] <techgeek40> Good Morning, all
[13:37] <jrib> srujan: mine is displayed as: Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode).  You just select that and hit enter.  Then you get a command prompt.  You enter 'adduser YOUR_USER_NAME admin', where YOUR_USER_NAME is your actual username.  Then reboot
[13:37] <riotkittie> ritalin: i'd say it depends on your laptop.
[13:37] <riotkittie> ritalin: i've had no probs with it on mine, tho
[13:37] <dbmoodb> !ritalin
[13:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ritalin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:37] <srujan> ok thank u
[13:38] <jrib> srujan: come back if you have trouble :)
[13:38] <techgeek40> I have one - do DirectX (PCI Express) video cards work okay - or very well - under Ubuntu?
[13:39] <daniel92> techgeek40: well, directx won't work (microsoft only), but the video card should work fine
[13:39] <AngryElf_> hey folks, I can't get my samba user to connect for some reason, my config is pretty simple, just a path and writeable = yes,  and I've set up the smb user with smbpasswd -a, but windows is still telling me that my server isn't accessible -- any ideas?
[13:40] <sheen> Hello all, I have issues installing my new nvidia gf8000 GTS G92 (latest chipset), it appears only known by latest nvidia drivers. I've installed them then I've launch X and I've seen a nvidia logo ! But gnome does not load so I've restart ubuntu and now I'm in vesa mode =( somebody could help me please ?
[13:40] <techgeek40> daniel92: I am not worried about DirectX working - that I have Vista for (grin) just worried about the card. I'm chaning out my vid card this weekend. I had ONE hell'va time getting it configured under Ubuntu
[13:40] <dbmoodb> is cpu frequency installed by default in gutsy ?
[13:40] <techgeek40> Sheen: Where did you get the drivers?
[13:40] <simion314> hi, in nautilus places panel i have a shortcut for floppy 1 but i do not have a flopy and i want to remove it from there, i can't do that with right click
[13:40] <dbmoodb> - i think i saw it last time i installed
[13:40] <sheen> techgeek40, nvidia.com
[13:40] <baby_imutz> koko
[13:40] <daniel92> techgeek40: what is the problem then?
[13:41] <sheen> techgeek40, because nvidia-glx-new does not work , driver's aren't enough recent
[13:41] <dbmoodb> !cpufreq
[13:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpufreq - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:41] <jrib> simion314: hmm, pastebin your /etc/fstab
[13:41] <techgeek40> Daniel: nothing really - I am was just curious - wondering if anyone has had problems with the pci express cards
[13:41] <techgeek40> Sheen: did you edit your xorg.conf and take out the vesa under "device"?
[13:42] <Na-Fiann> Hey, does anyone know how i can run a specific program in a different language without changing the language of the entire install?
[13:42] <daniel92> techgeek40:  afaik, they work just as well as any other card. actually, i'm pretty sure the vid card in my laptop i;m using right now (ati mobility radeon 2300 =[) is some form of pci x16
[13:42] <sarmisak> i'm using a 7500gt, no problems
[13:42] <sheen> techgeek40, no I was thinking that xconfig done it (it appears done it one time because i've seen the nvidia logo)
[13:42] <sarmisak> on my nb i have nvidia mobility, no problem on that also
[13:43] <daniel92> brb all
[13:43] <techgeek40> Sheen: there is a walkthrough for that - let me get you the link - make sure you follow it. It will go through the specifics for you
[13:43] <techgeek40> Sheen: one sec
[13:43] <IdleOne> just did a fresh install of 7.04 and my internet is not working or being recognised. need help please
[13:44] <techgeek40> Sheen: You have the 8000?
[13:44] <sheen> techgeek40, ok thanks a lot. This G92 is very hard to get working
[13:44] <sheen> techgeek40, 8800GTS but G92 (latest one)
[13:44] <techgeek40> Okay -
[13:45] <sarmisak> IdleOne: what's your nic make and model?
[13:45] <sarmisak> if it's onboard realtek 8169 or something like that just upgrade to 7.10
[13:45] <sarmisak> gigabit nics aren't much welcome in 7.04
[13:45] <techgeek40> Sheen: here is the site: get these drivers - http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_169.09.html
[13:45] <techgeek40> Sheen: Also
[13:46] <IdleOne> sarmisak SiS Unknown device 0671 is what lspci gives me
[13:46] <techgeek40> There is a util to help with the xorg - but also read the readme file - as it provides additional links on editing things that may need a line added or remarked out
[13:46] <sarmisak> IdleOne: can you dl a live 7.10 cd?
[13:46] <sarmisak> IdleOne: try it with the live cd
[13:47] <MindSpark> hi, does anyone know what the apache-mod-perl package is called ?
[13:47] <sarmisak> if it's working then just upgrade
[13:47] <IdleOne> sarmisak 7.10 has same effect
[13:47] <sarmisak> MindSpark: libapache2-mod-perl ?
[13:47] <sheen> techgeek40, this is the driver I've installed (I'm on 64 bits)
[13:47] <techgeek40> Sheen : oops okay - one sec
[13:47] <IdleOne> sarmisak livecd has no internet either
[13:47] <sarmisak> IdleOne: hmms, than it's a major problem for you
[13:47] <MindSpark> sarmisak, as far as I understand that's the development package ?
[13:48] <sarmisak> MindSpark: apt-cache search perl
[13:48] <MindSpark> sarmisak, yea, I did that, thanks :)
[13:48] <techgeek40> Sheen: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_169.09.html      still - make sure you read the readme. I had to - even though the install did just fine - I actually ended up having to install the driver via a safe mode terminal --- did you turn off X when you did the installation?
[13:48] <SleepingSloth> MindSpark, isn't it libapache2-mod-perl2 ?
[13:48] <IdleOne> sarmisak I do have a NIC card that works in my older pc . think I can swap them out without major issues on the driver side of things?
[13:48] <drunkmuppet> Hello. I was wanting to set up a webserver on vmware. What version of Ubuntu do you recommend and do you know of a good guide for a basic webserver? (php, mysql, perl, apache)
[13:49] <sarmisak> IdleOne: that would be a wise choice until a driver is created for your card
[13:49] <juice_> ne one know the terminal command for nvidia drivers for 8800GT?
[13:49] <drhumanist> hi
[13:49] <MindSpark> SleepingSloth, it looks like I need to update/install the mod_cgi as well
[13:49] <drhumanist> i have a problem installing Gutsy
[13:49] <sarmisak> drunkmuppet: ubuntu server edition, just pop the iso in and choose lamp
[13:49] <IdleOne> sarmisak guess that is what I will do then. thank you
[13:49] <sheen> techgeek40, I've close X (kill it I don't know how to close it to get the console)
[13:49] <SleepingSloth> MindSpark, ah, i see
[13:49] <sarmisak> IdleOne: never mind.
[13:50] <juice_> sarmisak: hey  me again, what was the terminal command for nvidia drivers?
[13:50] <drunkmuppet> sarmisak - Alright. Thankyou :D
[13:50] <IdleOne> sarmisak never mind?
[13:50] <drhumanist> at the and of the installation (94%) when it is installing GRUB it gives a fatal error saying cannot load GRUB on hda(o)
[13:50] <SleepingSloth> juice_, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx, you mean?
[13:50] <juice_> ty
[13:50] <techgeek40> Sheen: read the readme - and additonal links - then at the terminal window do /etc/init.d/gdm stop   that will stop the process - then do the terminal install - the new Nvidia drivers will have a gui for that and it will walk you through the installatoin
[13:50] <Na-Fiann> Alright I got a bit further...
[13:50] <swuboo> Does anyone know a way to get the system clock to use a non-Gregorian calendar?
[13:50] <redarrow> Hallo zusammen
[13:51] <Na-Fiann> if i input this in the terminal it works fine: LANGUAGE=nl_NL:nl LANG=nl_NL.UTF-8 gramps
[13:51] <BlackRece> hi ppl
[13:51] <drhumanist> hey anyone? :)
[13:51] <brobostigon> redarrow: moin
[13:51] <Na-Fiann> however, add the same command to the main menu and it complains about not being able to create a child process
[13:51] <Na-Fiann> anyone know why?
[13:51] <techgeek40> Sheen: reboot and do the safe mode start up - hit ALT+F2 - type your user name and password: then do the sudo su - for root - then the /etc/init.d/gdm stop - then cd to where the drivers are and follow the readme directions from there - they should install just fine from that point on
[13:52] <sheen> techgeek40, thanks I try
[13:52] <techgeek40> Sheen: good luck
[13:52] <drhumanist> guys - cannot even install Ubuntu :(
[13:52] <sheen> techgeek40, thanks =)
[13:52] <techgeek40> Sheen: :>
[13:52] <redarrow> brobostigon: oh, doch einer der mich versteht :D - hab eigentlich falschen Channel gehabt ;)
[13:52] <BlackRece> I have a simple noob question, how do I find out which nics are connected to what? I have 2 nics, one to router and one to a pc, trying to setup linux-gateway-box
[13:52] <techgeek40> drhumanist - what happens when you try to install
[13:52] <zoobox> anyone knows how I turn off window-to-window snapping in non-compiz mode? (visual effects: none)
[13:53] <brobostigon> !de | redarrow
[13:53] <ubotu> redarrow: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[13:53] <drhumanist> techgeek40 - till 94% everything goes fine, at that point -while trying to install GRUB- it gives a fatal error
[13:53] <iratiku> I missing a library libbz2
[13:53] <kriel> BlackRece: check IP's would be my guess. or mac addresses, if the router lets you see said mac addresses in its client table.
[13:53] <juice_> sarmisak: so i installed the 32bit version of 7.10 and just installed the nvidia drivers but when i go to restricted drivers manager and it says my hardware requires no restricted drivers...
[13:53] <brobostigon> redarrow: es sprechen hier mehr englisch als deutsch,
[13:53] <iratiku> Where do i get libbz2?
[13:53] <drhumanist> techgeek40- saying "Cannot install Grub on hda0"
[13:53] <redarrow> brobostigon: weiß ich eigentlich, bin in beiden Channeln vertreten nur bei irssi blick ich das manchmal nicht so in welchen channel ich gerade schreibe ;)
[13:54] <techgeek40> zoobox: try this site - it walks you through setting that up: http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/8/29/How-to-set-up-Compiz-Fusion
[13:54] <kriel> I recently changed my password, by using the 'passwd' command at a terminal level. Now, on every boot, nm-applet (Network Manager) asks for permission to the default keyring, and I have to type in my old password before it goes away. Was I not supposed to use the console command?
[13:54] <techgeek40> Drhumanist: how many drives you have in your computers? Also, are you doing the install via the full live CD or the alternate cd?
[13:54] <drhumanist> any ideas?
[13:55] <drhumanist> techgeek40 - Only one SATA Toshiba HDD on my laptop, Full CD
[13:55] <juice_> ne one know why my nvidia drivers arent working?
[13:55] <techgeek40> Drhumanist: how's your partition your drives?
[13:55] <juice_> help please
[13:55] <SleepingSloth> juice_,  what exactly is the problem?
[13:55] <balor> Does anyone know if the OOo bibliography tool works in Presenter?
[13:55] <Na-Fiann> can anyone please help me?
[13:55] <techgeek40> juice: did you install the drivers from the snyaptic or the web site?
[13:55] <roy_> hello,
[13:56] <drhumanist> I partitioned them in my Vista - one swap area 1.8 GB - one partition 18 GB
[13:56] <BlackRece> (why are there so many ppl with probs?! didn't think ubuntu was this awkward!)
[13:56] <drhumanist> I have Vista installed btw
[13:56] <kriel> BlackRece: can I pm?
[13:56] <BlackRece> sure
[13:56] <BlackRece> pm away
[13:56] <Na-Fiann> its just a small prob with the main menu items...
[13:56] <Na-Fiann> anyone?
[13:56] <techgeek40> drhumanist: one sec -
[13:56] <juice_> sleepingsloth, techgeek40: im in 7.10 fresh install, i have a 8800 GT nvidia, installed drivers from apt-get
[13:56] <drhumanist> okay
[13:56] <roy_> I have a problem...my desktop stopped working, i.e. no wallpaper is displayed, just black, no icons on the desktop, can't right-click on the desktop etc. anyone have any idea where I can check for errors?
[13:57] <techgeek40> Juice: 32 or 64?
[13:57] <SleepingSloth> juice_,  so what is actually wrong? low-graphics mode, or just no acceleration?
[13:57] <juice_> sleepingsloth, techgeek40: when i go to restricted drivers manager it claims my harware needs no restricted drivers
[13:57] <oalbech> how do i make programs launch at login?
[13:58] <oalbech> i want skype, pidgin and others to launch automaticly
[13:58] <PriitM> I copied folderA to folderB, now some of folderB files were in .trash, some completely missing. Some folderA files were completely missing. I found nautilus-debug-log, which contained info about me moving those files, but not deleting them. I didn't find any remove commands from terminal as well. System log did not report any unknown root logins. The data I lost wasn't very important, but is this just a bug or I should be worried?
[13:58] <SleepingSloth> juice_,  have you changed your xorg.conf?
[13:58] <juice_> sleepingsloth: no
[13:59] <juice_> sleepingsloth: what is it?
[13:59] <Eduardu> oalbech you need add commands on sessions option in setings menu
[13:59] <SleepingSloth> juice_, one sec
[13:59] <juice_> k
[13:59] <Na-Fiann> lol is my problem not exotic enough or sumthing?
[14:00] <swuboo> oalbech:  System, Preferences, Sessions.
[14:00] <oalbech> thanks guys
[14:00] <drhumanist> techgeek40 - shall i wait more? :)
[14:00] <Pici> Na-Fiann: What program are you trying to run?
[14:00] <SleepingSloth> Na-Fiann, please be patient
[14:00] <techgeek40> drhumanist: I take it you're using Vista to log in here right now?
[14:00] <swuboo> oalbech:  There'll be a tab for Startup programs.  Just add them.
[14:00] <drhumanist> techgeek - No, Live User mode - Ubuntu
[14:00] <Na-Fiann> sorry, just seemed like i was being ignored, not trying to be annoying or anything:p
[14:01] <erUSUL> PriitM: you copied it with nautilus? or you used cp?
[14:01] <Na-Fiann> pici, im trying to run gramps in my own loacale without changing standard language
[14:01] <PriitM> erUSUL, nautilus
[14:02] <techgeek40> drhumanist: i ran into that before and trying to remember how I got around that. I think - during the installation - I actually deleted my partition (the free space one) along with the swap area - re-did them with the Live CD - first creating the saw - then the second partition using just the etc and the mount of /       that was it -
[14:02] <Pici> Na-Fiann: You'll need to make a file, put the commands that you mentioned above in that file.
[14:02] <Na-Fiann> pici: in the terminal,  LANGUAGE=nl_NL:nl LANG=nl_NL.UTF-8 gramps works fine, but when run as a menu item, it gives the error "cannot create child process"
[14:02] <Na-Fiann> ahh
[14:02] <techgeek40> saw = swap
[14:02] <techgeek40> <---fingers haven't had their coffee yet
[14:02] <Na-Fiann> so, does it need to be a bash file or something?
[14:02] <SleepingSloth> juice_, I cant find the howto right now - but i am sure you need to change your /etc/X11/xorg.conf device driver from 'nv' to 'nvidia'
[14:02] <Pici> Na-Fiann: The menu cannot run multiple commands like that, but if you put them in a script, it can run the script.
[14:02] <Pici> Na-Fiann: Exactly.
[14:03] <erUSUL> PriitM: humm you espected to end up with folderB/folderA/ tree or you wanted all the files of folderA/ end up in folderB/  ?? i think you should reort it as a bug in nautilus with a detailed description (including logs etc)
[14:03] <techgeek40> drhumanist: did you create the swap partition as well in vista or did you do the partition setup in live cd mode?
[14:03] <Na-Fiann> great, thanks very much:)
[14:03] <daninad> you people die with the mortals
[14:03] <erUSUL> !bugs | PriitM
[14:03] <ubotu> PriitM: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[14:03] <daninad> unless you help
[14:03] <SleepingSloth> juice_, at least, i did. but then i didnt touch the restricted drivers manager when i installed my drivers.
[14:03] <Na-Fiann> and again sorry for nagging
[14:03] <drhumanist> techgeek40 - i tried that before but Ubuntu Installer could not manage to create the partitions! so I HAD TO use vista to partition
[14:03] <mads-> Hi. When I turn on my computer is just says "GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB..... " on the screen... And it just keeps going. How do I fix this?   That's good to know.  I may make use of that myself.
[14:03] <daninad> why are they mass murdering the local australian population?
[14:03] <daninad> why?
[14:03] <dgjones> !offtopic | daninad
[14:03] <ubotu> daninad: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:04] <jrib> !guidelines > daninad (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:04] <daninad> because they want to do it all over the world!
[14:04] <daninad> that's all
[14:04] <techgeek40> drhumanist: when you created your mount point did you use anything other than just the forward slash   /    or did you do like /media/???
[14:04] <juice_> sleepingsloth: where does it say the framerate?
[14:04] <PriitM> erUSUL, I wanted it to end up as /folderB/folderA/ but I ended up having /folderB/folderA/ with completely deleted files, some files in .trash and semi-empty folders
[14:04] <SleepingSloth> juice_,  run it from a terminal, it should give you the framerate every 5 seconds
[14:04] <drhumanist> techgeek - no no "/" for root and swap for swap.... I installed Ubuntu before onto other systems so i know the way
[14:05] <erUSUL> PriitM: that's pretty scare :( it is local filesystem? etx3? if true is a critical bug
[14:05] <BlackRece> ubuntu couldn't do partitions?!?!? that sounds like a bug to me or vista is locking the drive!!! summut wrong there drhumanist!!!
[14:05] <mads-> Hi. When I turn on my computer is just says "GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB..... " on the screen... And it just keeps going. How do I fix this? :S
[14:05] <juice_> sleepingsloth:  oic, anywhere around 200fps
[14:05] <PriitM> erUSUL, yes it's on local system. I'll report it.
[14:05] <drhumanist> BlackRece - yeah i found that strange too!
[14:06] <juice_> sleepingsloth:  looks horrible
[14:06] <BlackRece> mads: reinstall grub or use livecd to fix grub using sudo gedit .... i've foggoten which file u actually need to edit!! sry but that is part of the solution!! DO NOT TRY UNTIL U HAVE THE COMPLETE SOLUTION!!
[14:06] <erUSUL> mads-: does it ever worked fine or is a fresh install? maybe reinstalling grub helps?
[14:07] <Jupp2> how do I list the contents of a .deb file?
[14:07] <techgeek40> BlackRece: Vista can't lock the drive like that - but it is possible if another boot loader is being used that it does lock the partition --- I ran into that with BDC
[14:07] <sheen> techgeek40, Yahaaaaaaaaaaa : direct rendering: Yes / server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation !!!!! 1600x1200 @ 85 Hz ! Thanks a lot !!!
[14:07] <erUSUL> Jupp2: dpkg -L package
[14:07] <SleepingSloth> juice_,  okay, so you don't have acceleration at the moment. well - i dont know if there is a more enlightened way of sorting this, but like i said, i changed my xorg.conf...
[14:07] <Jupp2> erUSUL, Thanks!
[14:07] <jrib> Jupp2: man dpkg   should say
[14:07] <techgeek40> Sheen: My pleasure - congrats on it working
[14:07] <luisdaniel> hi
[14:08] <juice_> anyone know how to change my xorg.conf to nvidia?
[14:08] <drhumanist> techgeek40 - I installed Ubuntu over Vista before... I cannot what is different now
[14:08] <jrib> Jupp2: dpkg-deb more specifically
[14:08] <drhumanist> I cannot see what's different now
[14:08] <BlackRece> sleepingsloth: i don't get a fps reading when running glxgears
[14:08] <juice_> sleepingsloth:  thanks for narrowing my search :)
[14:08] <luisdaniel> anyone help to know why the ubuntu freeze?
[14:08] <sheen> techgeek40, perfect, thanks again ^^ I'm so happy
[14:08] <techgeek40> drhumanist: not sure - i've got XP - VISTA and Ubuntu on this computer - plus Virtual machines running xp and vista - no problems with it
[14:08] <tinman> luisdaniel: be more specific?
[14:08] <dgjones> BlackRece, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[14:08] <techgeek40> Sheen: Enjoy it, :>
[14:08] <jrib> !nvidia > juice_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:08] <BlackRece> daninad: political reason not for public reading! lol
[14:09] <luisdaniel> tinman: randomly the ubuntu freeze, maybe somthing like kernel panic
[14:09] <SleepingSloth> juice_,  in which case, you want to run sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:09] <drhumanist> so what should i try??
[14:09] <tylerwp> Help :( I was able to get 7.10 Desktop working on my DELL server but cannot get the 7.10 Server to fully work. Any way to copy working drivers from the Desktop edition?
[14:09] <techgeek40> But, I just realized - it's late and I"ll be late for work - so I gotta get - lo.l my boss won't like me late
[14:09] <luisdaniel> and I went to know why it freezes
[14:09] <swuboo> BlackRece:  There's a way to get a framerate on glxgears.   I think it's something like glxgears --iunderstandthatthisisnotabenchmark or something like that.
[14:09] <techgeek40> Drhumanist: i would blow out the partition with the live CD and recreate - with just the et3 mount only /  and see what happens
[14:09] <tinman> luisdaniel: Did you compile the kernel yourself?
[14:10] <luisdaniel> no
[14:10] <brobostigon> !compile | tinman
[14:10] <ubotu> tinman: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[14:10] <dgjones> BlackRece, you might have to use the command "glxgears -printfps" to get the frame rate
[14:10] <luisdaniel> this start after I make upgrade to 7.10
[14:10] <SleepingSloth> BlackRece, presumably there is a switch for versions that do not display by default?
[14:10] <drhumanist> ok i will try that once more..... but it cannot manage partitioning.....
[14:10] <jaggz-> why's dpkg -l '*bind*' not list EVERY bind package?
[14:10] <techgeek40> have a good one all - --- good luck drhumanist
[14:10] <swuboo> Ah, found it.  It's glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[14:10] <SleepingSloth> luisdaniel, beat me to it
[14:10] <techgeek40> drhumanist
[14:10] <techgeek40> one thing
[14:10] <drhumanist> yep?
[14:10] <tinman> brobostigon: trying to help luisdaniel :>
[14:11] <techgeek40> In bios - make sure that you don't have the virus protection turned on - that does lock the boot partition
[14:11] <juice_> sleepingsloth:  so i can edit through this and save?
[14:11] <drhumanist> aaah that may be why!!
[14:11] <brobostigon> tinman: sorry, wrong thing
[14:11] <techgeek40> good luck
[14:11] <jaggz-> Why does dpkg's list not work as I expect it to?  :)     dpkg -l '*bind*' does not list EVERY bind package -- instead, it lists several (bind, bind9, libbind..) but it misses "bindgraph", for instance
[14:11] <techgeek40> have a good one all
[14:11] <tinman> no worries
[14:11] <drhumanist> ok thanx
[14:11] <drhumanist> bbs :)
[14:11] <SleepingSloth> juice_, yes - you need to change the driver from the 'device' section which applies to your gfx card from 'nv' to 'nvidia', save and restart X. however... SAVE A BACKUP FIRST
[14:12] <BlackRece> tecjgeek40: I was close enuf! lol i've had dual booting issues when grub got wiped cos of MS re-wrote mbr and I had 2 re-install GRUB. I know its da bootloader that does the actual locking shame I can't remember how to sort it!!
 tinman: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first) <---- this is for me?
[14:12] <tylerwp> Help :( I was able to get 7.10 Desktop working on my DELL server but cannot get the 7.10 Server to fully work. Any way to copy working drivers from the Desktop edition?
[14:12] <vivia> hi there. it's a fresh ubuntu installation, i have a fat32 partition which i try to mount, but all utf-8 filenames are treated as if they were iso8859-1 (I can tell from the result). I have tried with different iocharset and codepage mount options and it doesn't seem to help. Any ideas?
[14:12] <maccabee> hello can anyone help me with realtime linux in ubuntu
[14:12] <jrib> jaggz-: short answer: use apt-cache search -n.   Longer answer, it only lists stuff that has been installed at some point I believe
[14:12] <juice_> sleepingsloth:  its set as vesa
[14:13] <BlackRece> luisdaniel: need more info, what do u do to make it freeze?
[14:13] <maccabee>  hello can anyone help me with realtime linux in ubuntu??please
[14:13] <luisdaniel> BlackRece: update kubuntu to 7.10
[14:14] <Devils-Haven> helo
[14:14] <jaggz-> jrib, I doubt I had bind installed before.. but maybe.  I wonder what it does :)
[14:14] <luisdaniel> after that I have random freezes
[14:14] <BlackRece> dgjones: i'm using gutsy(7.04) haven't been told to update tho, but then I haven't asked either!!
[14:14] <dean_> why do you need realtime player in your ubuntu?
[14:14] <Devils-Haven> can some one give me some laptop help?
[14:14] <dman> maccabee: what is 'realtime linux'?
[14:14] <jrib> !helpme | Devils-Haven
[14:14] <ubotu> Devils-Haven: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[14:14] <jaggz-> apt-cache search -n is fine, thanks..
[14:14] <Devils-Haven> !helpme
[14:14] <SleepingSloth> juice_, okay, well it should be nvidia. are you talking from the same machine~?
[14:14] <Devils-Haven> ?
[14:14] <jrib> Devils-Haven: see what ubotu said
[14:15] <juice_> sleepingsloth:  can't i do this from the System>Administration>Screeens and Graphics. and yes same machine
[14:15] <dean_> RealTime is an apple player
[14:15] <jrib> Devils-Haven: erm, just ask the channel your question
[14:15] <Devils-Haven> when i close my lid the screen wont shut off
[14:15] <Devils-Haven> any way to fix that?
[14:15] <jaggz-> apt-cache search is actually really nice
[14:16] <Devils-Haven> dell inspiron 1100
[14:16] <LiMaO> maccabee ➡ do you mean ubuntu livecd?
[14:16] <maccabee> no real time i meant the  embedded linux
[14:16] <jrib> jaggz-: aptitude search is even more powerful: http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03.html
[14:16] <maccabee> no its embedded linux
[14:16] <BlackRece> tylerwp:the main diff with 7.10 desktop and server is gui elements that I know of (i know there are some little bits as well but nothing that I can think of that shud make a big diff!) what's it doing? is it that u can't see a gui? if so, get one!
[14:16] <maccabee> LimaO
[14:17] <maccabee> its embedded linux on mobiles microprocessors etc
[14:17] <maccabee> hav anyone got any idea
[14:17] <jaggz-> is there a linux phone with ssh?
[14:17] <juice_> sleepingsloth:  i'm going for it, wish me luck
[14:17] <dman> maccabee: as in this: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8339055736.html
[14:17] <dman> ?
[14:17] <jaggz-> and a full-sized keyboard?
[14:17] <jaggz-> ;)
[14:17] <BlackRece> ssry ppl I'm a slow reader, i'm back at 14:09:56!! lol
[14:17] <maccabee> linux os i mean
[14:17] <kid> hi
[14:17] <brobostigon> jaggz: nokia n810
[14:17] <jaggz-> my phone was supposed to run putty but it just crashes.
[14:18] <IdleOne> sarmisak lspci now lists Realtek Semiconductor Co. RTL-8029 (AS) but still no internet
[14:18] <BlackRece> l8r techgeek40
[14:18] <vivia> the n810 is anything but a phone actually :)
[14:18] <LiMaO> maccabee ➡ like that a1200i phone?
[14:18] <Devils-Haven> any idea on closing lid and screen turn off? it won't go to sleep ither, unless i press go to sleep manualy
[14:18] <juice_> vivia: u can skype it tho
[14:18] <AnRkey> what gui can i use to configure my UPS
[14:18] <AnRkey> ?
[14:18] <maccabee> real time os examples are RTlinux,freertos etc
[14:18] <vivia> juice_: yeah, if you actually do have a wireless connection somewhere
[14:18] <maccabee> vxworks
[14:19] <ivan_> ivan_ teste
[14:19] <sarmisak> IdleOne: ok, can you check /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules if you can see your nic in there?
[14:19] <IdleOne> ping
[14:19] <ivan_> alguem do brasil.
[14:19] <vivia> juice_: not too helpful when you're on the road though :(
[14:19] <jaggz-> brobostigon: lookin' at it now :)
[14:19] <juice_> vivia: usb antenna
[14:19] <jrib> !pt | ivan_
[14:19] <ubotu> ivan_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[14:19] <ivan_> Anything from brazil?
[14:19] <juice_> vivia: or telnet
[14:19] <vivia> juice_: telnet ? how? where?
[14:20] <juice_> vivia: anchient chinease secret
[14:20] <luisdaniel> BlackRece: did you give any tip?
[14:20] <ivan_> Do anything from Brazil?
[14:20] <drunkmuppet> Ok. Is there a good guide on getting started with Ubuntu Server Lamp - post install?
[14:20] <jrib> ivan_: /join #ubuntu-br
[14:20] <vivia> juice_: how would a telnet help when you are on the road with no wifi?
[14:20] <vicho>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY vicata
[14:20] <Oli``> is there anyway to  reset the keyboard without restarting/ when exiting some programs the last key pressed remains 'down' so it really bodges up everything... like now, it thinks i'm holding shift-up =\
[14:20] <Pici> vicho: please change your password, NOw.
[14:20] <vivia> vicho: alright, change your nickserv password now
[14:20] <vicho> ooop
[14:20] <vicho> :)
[14:20] <LiMaO> ivan_ ➡ você nao sabe falar inglês, por favor fale em português em #ubuntu-br
[14:20] <ivan_> jrib: tanks
[14:21] <IdleOne> sarmisak no such directory
[14:21] <vivia> alright, i solved the issue with my filenames
[14:21] <tylerwp> Hey need help... anyone?
[14:21] <vivia> seems they were misterated as iso8859-1 when they were actually utf-8 on the livecd
[14:21] <sarmisak> IdleOne: nice one... what's your distro?
[14:21] <vivia> then i resized the fat32 partition and they were misconverted... convmv fixed them up for me :)
[14:21] <sarmisak> IdleOne: can you check ifconfig?
[14:21] <dman> !helpme | tylerwp
[14:21] <IdleOne> ubuntu 7.04
[14:21] <ubotu> tylerwp: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[14:21] <BlackRece> luisdaniel: what's the fast way of updating to 7.10 other re-installing the whole damn thing?!??!
[14:22] <IdleOne> sarmisakyes what info do you need from ifconfig?
[14:22] <tylerwp> thanks upootu
[14:22] <dman> BlackRece: you should just be able to click upgrade in the update manager. back up first though
[14:22] <sarmisak> IdleOne: can you see any nics configured such as eth0 eth1?
[14:22] <BlackRece> Ask the question and someone will answer, eventually!!
[14:23] <IdleOne> sarmisaketh0
[14:23] <woodsoul> !patience | tylerwp
[14:23] <ubotu> tylerwp: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[14:23] <brobostigon> !upgrade
[14:23] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[14:23] <IdleOne> sarmisak eth0
[14:23] <luisdaniel> BlackRece: how re-install everything?
[14:23] <sarmisak> IdleOne: it seems to work then, can you assign an ip to it from your router range by ifconfig eth0 192.168.x.x and ping your router?
[14:24] <IdleOne> sarmisakcan try
[14:24] <BlackRece> Devils-Haven: I haven't heard of a fix for that, sry.
[14:24] <jaggz-> gotta focus on getting this work done
[14:24] <jaggz-> take care
[14:25] <zdravko> hi there
[14:25] <Devils-Haven> wow no one uses ubunto on notbooks?
[14:25] <zdravko> can someone help me with octave?
[14:25] <zdravko> I need help in octave
[14:25] <dman> Devils-Haven: on one right now
[14:25] <BlackRece> Devils-Haven: have u got power managment options?
[14:25] <zdravko> the octave channel is useless
[14:25] <zdravko> can someone help me with octave?
[14:25] <Devils-Haven> i am linux noob
[14:25] <vicho> zdravko: where are you from?
[14:25] <jrib> zdravko: feel free to ask the question here, but #octave probably knows more
[14:25] <IdleOne> sarmisak network unreachable but I may have the gateway wrong
[14:25] <zdravko> i have to prepare a few things in octave
[14:26] <zdravko> nope
[14:26] <sarmisak> Devils-Haven: i do use, what's your problem?
[14:26] <SleepingSloth> zdravko, if someone can help, they will. there's no need to keep posting the same question
[14:26] <redspike> Hi all, trying to install a new kernel, copying th /boot/config-file to /usr/src/.config byt i get alots of errors "config:34:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol" any onw know way?
[14:26] <jrib> Devils-Haven: they do but no one at the moment probably knows how to resolve your issue
[14:26] <Devils-Haven> screen won't turn off when i close my lid
[14:26] <zdravko> i need to find numerically the derivative of a function
[14:26] <zdravko> I already tried gradient
[14:26] <sarmisak> Devils-Haven: hmms, that's a specific issue sorry can't help
[14:26] <zdravko> but it is extremely inaccurate
[14:26] <BlackRece> Luidaniel: i've been chatting for ages but i'm still reading 14:20:06 lol
[14:26] <jrib> !enter | zdravko
[14:26] <ubotu> zdravko: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:27] <sarmisak> IdleOne: hmms, it's strange not to have an internet connection with a realtek chipset nic
[14:27] <Devils-Haven> it won't do any activity related to lid options
[14:27] <zdravko> I asked my question
[14:27] <Devils-Haven> i guess not registering the lid?
[14:27] <jrib> zdravko: pastebin your example
[14:27] <BlackRece> oli: u got a sticky k/board?
[14:27] <sarmisak> IdleOne: are you connected to a router or is it just two pcs interconnected?
[14:27] <zdravko> http://phpfi.com/293558
[14:28] <BlackRece> I would like help with identifying which mac addresses relate to which nics and what each nic can see
[14:28] <zdravko> and this is the image: http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vphi2xn6.png
[14:28] <IdleOne> sarmisakwhat is the ifup/down command?
[14:28] <sarmisak> ifup eth0
[14:28] <sarmisak> ifdown eth0
[14:28] <zdravko> as you can see it is very inaccurate
[14:28] <sarmisak> or just try /etc/init.d/networking restart
[14:29] <BlackRece> here's one for ya, can the windows key be binded to the ubuntu menu?
[14:29] <luisdaniel> its possible downgrade to 7.04??
[14:29] <zdravko> I am sure there is a better alternative than gradient
[14:30] <dgjones> !downgrade | luisdaniel, only by a reinstall
[14:30] <ubotu> luisdaniel, only by a reinstall: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[14:30] <zdravko> but that was I told to use to calculate the first derivative
[14:30] <jrib> zdravko: please stop using enter to break up your thoughts
[14:30] <pteague> is there anyway to find out what's eating ram?
[14:30] <zdravko> why?
[14:31] <jrib> zdravko: because this channel is very busy
[14:31] <vaineh> the best game evar!! (apparenlty cos i havent played it yet) wont work on my ubuntu. is it just me or wont it run on linux? see http://raptorsafari.com/play.php
[14:31] <ontop> I need some help with ubuntu and sound. When I open mp3-files, nothing happends. - Boy from Norway.
[14:31] <BlackRece> Luisdaniel: by re-installing everything, i mean rebooting with live cd (or alternate)
[14:31] <BlackRece> l8r jaggz
[14:32] <filthpig> !mp3 | ontop
[14:32] <ubotu> ontop: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:32] <jrib> zdravko: I am looking at your pastebin.  #octave is a more appropriate channel for this question
[14:32] <ontop> thanks :)
[14:33] <BlackRece> redspike: sounds like u've got a typo somewhere
[14:33] <dman> vaineh: well, apparently it has to install a windows-only game player. sorry
[14:33] <pteague> is there any way to find out what's using ram?  i've maxxed out my 3G ram & swap & no idea how i did it
[14:33] <devilsadvocate> hi - my ubuntu plays videos with a _very_ low brigtness. changing to -vo gl2 on mplayer fixes this. (a) why is this happening (b) can i fix it globally (b) is there anyway to chage the default rendering engines on on the default media players (especially the firefox plugin)
[14:33] <dman> pteague: try opening the system monitor and checking
[14:33] <lastsurvivor> how to list only directories with ls command ?
[14:34] <Devils-Haven> !help any one know a good app like ms streets and trips for linux?
[14:34] <ontop> ubotu: but what do you mean with "free formats"?
[14:34] <BlackRece> idleone: are u using a router to connect to internet?
[14:34] <ontop> something else than mp3?
[14:34] <jrib> lastsurvivor: ls -d */     works
[14:34] <LjL> ontop: those that are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats possibly - and ubotu is a bot
[14:34] <lastsurvivor> ty jrib
[14:34] <ontop> lol, i didn't know :p
[14:34] <pteague> dman> it won't let me...  just acts like it's opening & then disappears... i do have a terminal open, any way to check from there?
[14:34] <dgjones> ontop, things like a .ogg format are free formats
[14:34] <zdravko> does anyone know how to compute a first derivative numerically in Octave?
[14:35] <ontop> thanks anyway
[14:35] <LjL> ontop: the best known "MP3-like" free format is Ogg Vorbis
[14:35] <BlackRece> ontop: have u got a media player installed?
[14:35] <filthpig> ontop, ubotu is a bot, not human. Free formats are written in open source
[14:36] <filthpig> !open source
[14:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about open source - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:36] <filthpig> !opensource
[14:36] <LjL> !fishing
[14:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opensource - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:36] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[14:36] <dman> pteague: try htop. you might have to install it
[14:36] <BlackRece> Devils-haven: google maps!! lol
[14:37] <Devils-Haven> need software, internet won't be avaliable
[14:37] <LjL> filthpig: and it's generally not a matter of being open source at all (most MP3 players/encoders in Ubuntu are open source).
[14:37] <sheen> Hello all, I've managed to install my 8800 GTS G92 on ubuntu, it sems to works well, I've activated dual monitor (one X per monitor) but it appears that the X on 1st monitor is very slow, and the X on 2nd monitor is very fast, is there a way to solve the problem ? I can post on pastebin my xorg.conf if you want
[14:37] <pteague> ok, this really isn't good... seems like my filesystem is currently in read-only mode... crap
[14:38] <devilsadvocate> pteague, where are you trying to write? you usually have wrrite accees only in your home ddirectory and a few other specific places
[14:38] <filthpig> LjL, I din't get your meaning there
[14:38] <pteague> devilsadvocate> `sudo aptitude install htop` - W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock \ E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/ \ E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[14:39] <BlackRece> sheen: check gfx card capabilities. can it handle it
[14:39] <LjL> zdravko: http://wiki.octave.org/wiki.pl?CategorySymbolic
[14:39] <pteague> not only that, but i can't save any files & /tmp/ seems to be locked down as well... won't let me open any apps
[14:39] <BlackRece> pteague: r u using live cd?
[14:39] <pteague> nope
[14:39] <LjL> zdravko: perhaps you may want to ask in #octave as well
[14:39] <Repentinus> Hi, I am using dual boot (Vista/Ubuntu 7.10) and I want that if I'll start my computer then hilighted choice will be ista, atm it is Ubuntu, how I can change it?
[14:39] <sheen> BlackRece, sorry how could I know that ? (My old ati works well with this config, I think this one can handle this)
[14:40] <pteague> 4G ram, 32-bit ubuntu (so only about 3G usable ram), 500G hard drive
[14:40] <BlackRece> pteague: try using sudo command
[14:40] <devilsadvocate> pteague, strange. try manually writing to /tmp. also, i sometimes had the apt related issue. not sure how it comes, but i have to manually delete the lock-file (may not be a good idea unless you'v exhausted all other options)
[14:40] <dman> BlackRece: he did...
[14:40] <pteague> BlackRece> i did use sudo
[14:40] <Repentinus> Hi, I am using dual boot (Vista/Ubuntu 7.10) and I want that if I'll start my computer then hilighted choice will be ista, atm it is Ubuntu, how I can change it?
[14:41] <filthpig> LjL, ah, nevermind. Got it ;)
[14:41] <dman> pteague: try restarting maybe? it'll either help or completely screw you though
[14:41] <Pici> !repeat | Repentinus
[14:41] <ubotu> Repentinus: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[14:41] <BlackRece> repentinus: change the settings in GRUB boot loader, as to what actual settings u need, i'd have to search and get back to u.
[14:41] <LjL> filthpig: it's generally a problem with patents, not source.,
[14:41] <pteague> `echo "blah" > /tmp/tmp.txt` - bash: /tmp/tmp.txt: Read-only file system
[14:41] <Repentinus> How I can change GRUB settings?
[14:41] <pteague> get the same thing using sudo
[14:41] <BlackRece> pteague: sry, i'm behind by a few lines!!!
[14:42] <erUSUL> Repentinus: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:42] <pteague> hehe, np
[14:42] <BlackRece> brb, got sort da kids!!1
[14:42] <devilsadvocate> Repentinus, you need to change the 'Default' lin in /boot/grub/menu.list
[14:42] <dman> Repentinus: try qgrubeditor. works well for a gui to grub. search it
[14:42] <pteague> k, rebooting
[14:42] <dman> pteague: good luck
[14:42] <filthpig> LjL, silly mistake on my part.
[14:42] <erUSUL> pteague: maybe the fiesystem was mounted read only becouse of not recoverable errors????
[14:42] <drunkmuppet> ok im trying to install a basic gui for ubuntu server, I removed the # for the universe/multiverse but it still can't find a gui package.
[14:43] <IdleOne> ubuntu-desktop
[14:43] <drunkmuppet> yes it doesn't find the pacakge
[14:43] <IdleOne> that is the package name
[14:43] <devilsadvocate> drunkmuppet, did you do an apt-get update?
[14:43] <LjL> drunkmuppet: ubuntu-desktop is in main, so it has to find it unless you don't have main enabled (which would seem pretty serious)
[14:43] <IdleOne> apt-get update then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[14:43] <filthpig> I should have referred to the GPL, not open source as such
[14:43] <dman> general question here: i have my external hard drive what i the best format (read: quickest, easiest) to make it to have it accessible by both windows and linux?
[14:44] <drunkmuppet> got lots of 404's
[14:44] <LjL> filthpig: not much to do with the GPL either, GPL says it's open source and that's it.
[14:44] <mikebeecham> hi guys....I wonder if someone can help me restore my samba shares, which are fed to the xbox.  I tried to share the same folders in windows, and now they do not work in Linux.  I've tried stopping and restarting samba daemons, but that does not work?
[14:44] <devilsadvocate> filthpig, you are even more incorrect if yyou had said gpl
[14:44] <K_Nine> dmnm fat 32
[14:44] <mikebeecham> what is the command in Alt + F2 to access the share folder?
[14:44] <devilsadvocate> drunkmuppet, are you behind a firewall or proxy?
[14:44] <dman> drunkmuppet: sounds like no internet. i got that problm from a bad install. a reinstall fixed it. might be a diff. prob tho
[14:44] <drunkmuppet> I'm doing this through Vm-ware
[14:45] <redspike> BlackRece: what do you mean?
[14:45] <devilsadvocate> drunkmuppet, its possible your vm-server is not setup to rely network traffic?
[14:45] <filthpig> LjL, devilsadvocate, how come? GPL says the format is free (as in speech) to use, duplicate and modify
[14:45] <dman> K_Nine: that's what i thought. that's the format they are now.
[14:46] <LjL> filthpig: eh? how can you duplicate a *format*?
[14:46] <drunkmuppet> It is setup, however i'm at work, where computers need to be registered first. And it thinks my vmware is a new computer.
[14:46] <LjL> filthpig: anyway, no, you're wrong, but please join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to discuss this further
[14:46] <devilsadvocate> filthpig, if a codec were gpl'd, it would be free. but not all free formats are gpl'd
[14:46] <drunkmuppet> Did this from home last night, and had no problem. I assume this is the issue.
[14:46] <pteague_other> ok, reboot isn't doing to well... i'm having to run fsck
[14:46] <mikebeecham> hi guys....I wonder if someone can help me restore my samba shares, which are fed to the xbox.  I tried to share the same folders in windows, and now they do not work in Linux.  I've tried stopping and restarting samba daemons, but that does not work?
[14:46] <BlackRece> right, im back
[14:46] <pteague_other> ok, that's not good, just had it spew a whole page of inodes
[14:47] <AngryElf> what is 'watchdog'?
[14:47] <dman> drunkmuppet: definitely internet then. there must be something preventing the computer from gettig intenet
[14:47] <devilsadvocate> mikebeecham,  you want to see your shares that are on a windows computer, or do you want to set up a share on your ubunut?
[14:48] <erUSUL> pteague_other: no; no good... when linux mounts a fs read only something is quite wrong...
[14:48] <BlackRece> redspike: from the error u pasted, it sounds like something was mis-typed but i cannot be more specific
[14:48] <filthpig> devilsadvocate, maybe not exactly, but some other, similar licence
[14:48] <redspike> BlackRece: ahh ok
[14:48] <BlackRece> where the one on about dual booting wid vista and 7.10?
[14:48] <pteague_other> & it's a brand new drive... just past the 30 days for returning to newegg :(
[14:48] <nmsa> someone using pptp? I need some help going out of the network
[14:49] <redspike> BlackRece: n the .config ?
[14:49] <drunkmuppets> Ok I think I got it :P Hopped on wireless where I don't have to register ;)
[14:49] <devilsadvocate> pteague_other, do you have extensive disk usage and very long uptimes?
[14:49] <BlackRece> redspike: where did the error come from?
[14:49] <redspike> BlackRece: when i run make menuconfig
[14:50] <redspike> BlackRece: and Load the .config
[14:50] <erUSUL> redspike: most likely you do not have libncurses5-dev iirc
[14:50] <redspike> BlackRece: .config:1017:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol INPUT_TSDEV
[14:50] <devilsadvocate> pteague_other, using my ext drives on windows for long periods without booting into windows and hence without running fsck made my drives a mess. fsck took about half an hour to run through it :|
[14:50] <tiny> Hi! How do I install ubuntu from a nfs share? What's the install parameter? For example Suse would have something like "install=nfs://<IP_ADDRESS>/mnt/sda1/share/ubuntu-7.10-server"
[14:50] <redspike> erUSUL: libncurses5-dev is already the newest version. make menuconfig strats.. i get iot when i try to load the config file
[14:51] <Repentinus> Is there any online documentation about grub?
[14:51] <BlackRece> redspike: are u trying to put items inrepentus: yes gimmie a mo...
[14:51] <devilsadvocate> Repentinus, loads of it. but all you need to do is change the number next to default in the menu.list
[14:51] <tiny> I have the PXE booting and I can do a net install with net initrd image. But I'd like an install from a nfs share which is basically a 7.10 loop mounted iso image.
[14:51] <erUSUL> redspike: can you paste the erros you get?
[14:51] <erUSUL> !paste | redspike
[14:51] <ubotu> redspike: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:52] <Repentinus> devil, I can't even find menu.list
[14:52] <BlackRece> redspike: tristate touchscreen interface?!?!!?
[14:52] <K_Nine> Repentinus try this page http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2007/05/ubuntu-how-to-edit-grub-boot-parameters.html
[14:52] <devilsadvocate> Repentinus, are you comfortable on a command line?