[15:11] <hroi> daftykins, cfhowlett :   amazon EC2 uses ubuntu LTS server
[15:11] <hroi> I'll try xfce only
[15:11] <cfhowlett> hroi, no idea about it, thus my silence ...
[15:11] <cfhowlett> hroi, oh wait ...
[15:12] <cfhowlett> hroi, no even from server, 1.4 gb is wrong.
[15:12] <daftykins> hroi: yeah but they modify it from what i understand.
[15:12] <jatt> 2gb is light
[15:12] <brainwash> hroi: try "sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends xubuntu-desktop"
[15:13] <hroi> daftykins,  cfhowlett :   lol... when I do apt-get install xfce4 it reports 209MB only
[15:13] <cfhowlett> hroi, if all you need is the interface, sudo apt-get xfce4
[15:13] <brainwash> hroi: or install "xubuntu-core"
[15:14] <hroi> brainwash, right... maybe that was it....
[15:14] <hroi> brainwash, no such package
[15:15] <brainwash> hroi: oh, it's possible that -core is not available in 14.04
[15:15] <hroi> hey read this... the end of doc  http://complete-concrete-concise.com/ubuntu-2/ubuntu-12-04-server/ubuntu-12-04-server-how-to-install-a-gui
[15:15] <hroi> it says xubuntu desktop will take 1.4GB
[15:15] <jatt> I would say, why just not install the thing? 2gb is not that much disk space for a desktop environmment
[15:16] <daftykins> jatt: it's a VPS :P
[15:16] <daftykins> hroi: X doesn't even belong on a hosted server.
[15:16] <daftykins> what are you trying to achieve?
[15:16] <hroi> daftykins,  it does if you have a Nvidia GRID GPU attached to the hosted server
[15:17] <daftykins> that's a ridiculous statement
[15:17] <hroi> daftykins,   we are doing GPU rendering tests... also not every 3D application manufacturer gives you great options for configuring the renderer
[15:18] <hroi> daftykins,   I agree with what you are saying... its true... but does not on the fly facilitate bug checking
[15:18] <daftykins> wat
[15:18] <jatt> you have a gpu attached but... do you have a monitor?
[15:18] <hroi> daftykins, if everyone ... such as autodesk was command line oriented
[15:19] <hroi> jatt,  we use the GPU for 3D ray tracing
[15:19] <daftykins> didn't even think autodesk did products on Linux
[15:19] <hroi> jatt,  trust me... it can save time... from time to time to fire up the desktop with nx or other
[15:19] <jatt> you are doing heavy stuff then, then why comply about 2gb disk space?
[15:20] <cfhowlett> this ^^^ +1
[15:20] <hroi> jatt,  no complaints... just felt like something wrong... it turns out that package actually is that big
[15:20] <hroi>  :)
[15:20] <hroi> so all is good
[15:20] <daftykins> it's not a big surprise to me given a -desktop would have libre office, X - all that junk
[15:20] <jatt> full requirements of xfce are 5gb, ~2gb is the minimal install
[15:21] <hroi> yeah... I think I will just install xfce I only need it for testing not to write word docs :D
[15:21] <hroi> thanks!
[15:29] <kejt> Hello. For some reason Firefox crashes randomly on Ubuntu 14.04. It has no repeating pattern for doing that and I don't have any extra addons, but the default 4 that are from Ubuntu installed. Any hints how to deal with it?
[15:30] <theadmin> kejt: Run Firefox from command line, wait until it crashes, see errors
[15:30] <Apachez> kejt: out of the blue, try to run a session of memtest+
[15:30] <Apachez> to rule out any ram problems
[15:30] <kejt> theadmin, will do now. Apachez, will try in a second. Thank you.
[15:30] <daftykins> clean browser profiles are always good, too
[15:31] <theadmin> kejt: (also, if you do go the memtest route, you should run that for quite a few hours so that will take a while)
[15:31] <melray> daftykins: Thanks for the help got the drivers installed
[15:31] <kejt> theadmin, yeap, I was kinda supposing that, that's why I saved it for later. :)
[15:32] <daftykins> melray: boots normally now huh? you'd need to remove nomodeset from the GRUB config again ideally if you added it
[15:34] <kejt> theadmin, is it possible to be because of some caches or something? Because it didn't restore the session when I tried to open it with the terminal and for some reason it doesn't crash now at all...
[15:35] <melray> daftykins: Yeah I guess shift doesn't work with the live cd but does on a intalled grub boot
[15:36] <daftykins> melray: yeah that was my point from the beginning :) were you trying shift with the live session? perhaps that's where the confusion came from :>
[15:38] <melray> daftykins: Yes sorry just getting familiar with linux. Been taking the free edx.org course. It is basic, but basic is good when you don't have the basics down. :-)
[15:39] <hroi> the nvidia-drivers are not showing up in my aptitude search
[15:39] <daftykins> melray: oh absolutely, it's a good course that. i've yet to sign up for v2, definitely helps fill in gaps for everyone i think
[15:39] <hroi> I guess I'm supposed to add some repo?
[15:39] <daftykins> hroi: only for newer versions. but as we said you're using AWS then it's not official. "apt-get update && apt-cache search nvidia"
[15:40] <daftykins> you should see nvidia-304, nvidia-319, nvidia-331 at least
[15:40] <jiohdi> or just install nvidia-current
[15:40] <daftykins> no, that installs 304 which is ancient
[15:40] <daftykins> bad move.
[15:40] <hroi> yeah... but they are not in the sources
[15:41] <daftykins> 'they'?
[15:41] <hroi> nvidia-current nvidia-3... not in repo ... I think I'm supposed to source some other repo
[15:41] <hroi> dont know whichone
[15:42] <daftykins> hroi: follow amazon's advice maybe.
[15:42] <melray> Or system settings software & updates then the tap for additional drivers...that *should* detect what you need unless as daftykins stated the drivers are a special case
[15:42] <melray> *tab*
[15:42] <daftykins> melray: not a desktop :)
[15:43] <ubuntunoob> melray: would you be able to help me with partition problems involving a windows 7 RAID 0 setup?
[15:43] <jiohdi> if you did an upgrade along the way, you may have to go into the repo's list and re-enable 3rd party software
[15:43] <melray> ubuntunoob: No sorry I have no skills in that area
[15:43] <hroi> daftykins, melray ::   here's the apt sources list :    http://www.pasteall.org/56308
[15:43] <hroi> Isn't this pretty standard sources
[15:43] <daftykins> ubuntunoob: you should address the channel, not pick on individual users. you can't use fakeRAID that Windows is setup on, with Ubuntu
[15:44] <hroi> I dont think amazon is running any special sources
[15:44] <daftykins> i think you're wrong there
[15:44] <ubuntunoob> ubuntu is on a separate drive not in the fakeraid
[15:44] <daftykins> ubuntunoob: what are you trying to achieve then?
[15:45] <daftykins> hroi: yes they're running their own repos there, so the packages they have are up to them.
[15:46] <hroi> daftykins,  yeah it loks so
[15:46] <hroi> it could be just a mirror... but we cant tell
[15:46] <daftykins> yeah maybe a mirror with some removed
[15:46] <daftykins> if you don't get anything from "apt-cache search nvidia" then there y'go
[15:46] <ubuntunoob> i have a windows 7 installation on 2 drives in fakeraid 0 and ubuntu on a single drive not in any raid association. i recently tried to upgrade ubuntu 12.04 LTS to 14 LTS and i think the iso was corrupt because it failed installation and wiped my GRUB bootloader and bootmgr. i just installed 14 and got it working with a new iso but my fakeraid 0 is gone. however, before i installed it i copied the windows 100mb boot partition in
[15:46] <ubuntunoob> to the drive the linux. now gparted shows 3 drives, 2 of which with unallocated data and then the third drive with linux containing the windows boot partition
[15:47] <ubuntunoob> i just need to know how to set up the 2 drives back into RAID 0 with the stripe size and then point it to the windows 100mb boot partition so i can get back into my old installation- i just don't know how to do it or if it's possible
[15:47] <daftykins> ubuntunoob: not an ubuntu issue whatsoever. go to ##windows
[15:47] <ubuntunoob> ty
[15:48] <ablest1980> you can change raid in bios?
[15:49] <daftykins> ablest1980: it's not on topic here either way :)
[15:49] <ablest1980> :)
[15:50] <daftykins> given as it's fakraid and a Windows issue
[15:50] <daftykins> *fakeraid
[15:58] <pratik> hi
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> lo
[15:58] <pratik> Hi anyone here ? I am new !
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> Many
[15:58] <compdoc> none
[15:59] <pratik> Please chat with me , I m new ! Please i beg you
[15:59] <daftykins> pratik: plenty of people. do you have a support question? chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> pratik: do you have a support issue?
[15:59] <BluesKaj> hi pratik how new are you? :)
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> pratik  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:00] <compdoc> ubottu2 seems to be spamming in an arabic language
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Can someone kick ubottu2 it keeps PMing me....
[16:00] <pratik> Yes I have an issue
[16:00] <BluesKaj> yeah
[16:00] <daftykins> compdoc: yes i just got that and reported it to #ubuntu-ops - which is where such comments belong
[16:00] <daftykins> saying it in here is pointless
[16:00] <BluesKaj> it just pm'd me as well
[16:00] <miriam> .
[16:00] <compdoc> busy little bot
[16:01] <pratik> I want Taskbar at the bottom
[16:01] <pratik> Its at left side currently
[16:01] <pratik> I would be glad if you answer
[16:01] <daftykins> pratik: can't be done
[16:01] <pratik> Oh my God :(
[16:01] <pratik> Why ?
[16:01] <ablest1980> lol
[16:01] <daftykins> it's not an option
[16:01] <pratik> I have another Question too
[16:01] <BluesKaj> is that evem n allowed on unity , it mucks up the look
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> pratik  lxde has the taskbar on the bottom
[16:02] <BluesKaj> as does kde
[16:02] <cfhowlett> pratik xfce task bar where you want it ...
[16:02] <pratik> My laptop Overheats and gets tot :( What to do ?? You are the last hope sir!!
[16:02] <dupingping> Why doesn't my screen lock when I'm logged in as root?
[16:02] <pratik> How to install xfce bar
[16:02] <daftykins> pratik: take it to a shop to be disassembled and cleaned out
[16:02] <dupingping> who can help me?
[16:02] <dupingping> Why doesn't my screen lock when I'm logged in as root?
[16:03] <daftykins> you shouldn't be logged in as root at all
[16:03] <cfhowlett> pratik, sudo apt-get install xfce4
[16:03] <pratik> No , it works pretty well , does not heat
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> dupingping  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[16:03] <pratik> on windows
[16:03] <ActionParsnip>  dupingping logging in as root is far from wise
[16:03] <dupingping> it's 12.04.5 lts.
[16:03] <dupingping> yes.
[16:03] <dupingping> but
[16:03] <dupingping> fedora 20 is support that.
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> pratik: I believe it's called xfpanel
[16:04] <cfhowlett> dupingping, ubuntu is not fedora.
[16:04] <dupingping> sure.
[16:04] <dupingping> but
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> dupingping: ubuntu isn't fedora
[16:04] <daftykins> dupingping: try and keep your messages to fewer lines please.
[16:04] <dupingping> yes
[16:04] <cfhowlett> dupingping, and you CAN run root ... it's just stupid and dangerous to do so.  as it would be in fedora.
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> dupingping: use the user you made at install and use sudo. You'll be fine
[16:04] <dupingping> I tried to lock my screen as logged in root.
[16:04] <pratik> No , it works pretty well , does not heat on Windows 7, but as soon as i start using Ubuntu then  it heats like as if i am playing game , in fact i never play game , i m a normal user.
[16:04] <dupingping> At Ubuntu 12.04.5 and Fedora.
[16:05] <dupingping> So Fedora20 is running well.
[16:05] <dupingping> But Ubuntu.
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> pratik: does the system have a make and model
[16:05] <dupingping> I think that it's gnome-screensaver problem.
[16:05] <cfhowlett> dupingping, fedora is offtopic here.  please stop talking abouut it.
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> dupingping: the community doesn't advise or support logging in as root.
[16:05] <dupingping> I'm talking for Ubuntu.
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> dupingping: see above
[16:06] <pratik> What is an issue with Ubuntu overheating my lappie ? I didnt get it , sorry if you  think i am wasting time ,but i could not get this sort out.
[16:06] <dupingping> Then gnome-screensaver is not support root?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> pratik: does the system have a make and model?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> dupingping: logging in to X as root is not advised or supprted
[16:06] <sindarina> dupingping: You should not be logging in as root, period. Ubuntu disables it by default, for good reason. So if you want to go against the defaults, you are kind of on your own.
[16:07] <pratik> I dont know what is make , model , Ok its Sony Vaio E series 15 inch lappie
[16:07] <dupingping> yes, but
[16:07] <dupingping> I think that you can help me with good security.
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> dupingping: it's not good for security and is why it's disabled. I'm sure that the developers of Ubuntu know a LOT more about Linux and security and have set the OS up in such a way on purpose. But you know better....right
[16:08] <cfhowlett> dupingping, running as root is BAD SECURITY!!!!
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> pratik: can you pastebin the output of: sudo dmidecode -t 1; lsb_release -a; uname -a
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> dupingping: the OS doesn't work so well as root because it is configured to run as a user using sudo. This is on purpose
[16:10] <pratik> Anyways you built an amazing Operating System , I dumped Windows forever  and switched forever to Ubuntu.By the way I am software developer by Profession , a LAMP stack PHP dev.
[16:10] <sindarina> Right, Trusty kernel question. Recent kernels seem to have changed something where '/[aio]' shows up for as a deleted file in use, when checked with 'checkrestart', even after a clean reboot. This is true for mysql, and nginx. Has anyone else seen this?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> pratik: that's not what I asked for
[16:11] <pratik> @ActionParsnip , please dont be rude !
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> pratik: I wasn't. I was pointing out fact
[16:12] <pratik> pratik@pratik-SVE15116ENB:~$ sudo dmidecode -t 1; lsb_release -a; uname -a
[16:12] <pratik> # dmidecode 2.12
[16:12] <pratik> SMBIOS 2.7 present.
[16:12] <pratik> Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes
[16:12] <pratik> System Information
[16:12] <pratik> 	Manufacturer: Sony Corporation
[16:12] <pratik> 	Product Name: SVE15116ENB
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> pratik: use a pastebin please. Then you don't spam the channel
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> pratik: I did mention it in my initial request
[16:13] <pratik> I am new heree i dont know what is post bin and all that
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> pratik: then ask...
[16:14] <daftykins> !paste | pratik
[16:14] <dupingping> I like Ubuntu 12.04 lts.
[16:14] <dupingping> And I'm using it now.
[16:14] <dupingping> I like all of the features of Ubuntu. But only one.
[16:15] <pratik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9868436/
[16:15] <cfhowlett> dupingping, please continue chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> pratik: copy the text and paste it in http://pastie.org. when the address in the address bar changes, copy the url and paste in the channel
[16:15] <dupingping> cfhowlett, it's chit?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> pratik: just like that
[16:15] <dupingping> why do you think so?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> pratik: ok and the system runs hot?
[16:16] <cfhowlett> dupingping, do you have a technical support issue?  no?  then ubuntu-offtopic please.
[16:16] <dupingping> cfhowlett, it's not technical issue?
[16:17] <pratik> Yes , it is ok when i use win 7 , but dont know what happens with ubuntu . Is this an issue exists in Ubuntu?
[16:17] <cfhowlett> !details | dupingping
[16:17] <ubuntunoob> dupingping: if you have a technical issue with ubuntu you should clearly state it
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> pratik: if you run: sudo lshw -C display    do you see an Intel GPU and an Intel GPU?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Oops
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Intel and an Nvidia
[16:19] <pratik> I use AMD GPU , i typed it shows -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9868484/
[16:20] <paolo_> ciao a tutti
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> pratik: install the proprietary video driver using additional drivers. You are using the open source driver
[16:21] <fastputty> hello guys, i recently got a huge DDOS on one of my server here. IS there a way to automatically switch my eth0 ip when network failed ??
[16:22] <fastputty> i got a /28 ip range and would like to use of it
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> fastputty: is eth0 getting an IP from your ISO?  Or does it get an IP from a router?
[16:23] <pratik> How do i install AMD drivers for linux ? It was pretty easy on windows , i m afraid i will swich back to Windows 7
[16:23] <cfhowlett> !amd | pratik
[16:24] <pratik> then ?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> pratik: there is an application for it in system settings.
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> pratik: what do you mean "then ?"
[16:24] <daftykins> !ati | pratik read here
[16:24] <pratik> What is its name ?
[16:24] <Tzunamii> pratik: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CEIQtwIwBQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DevqpassbyqA&ei=mRjFVIjrFoK7ygPl1oG4DQ&usg=AFQjCNHjefkjUw95m23sOlWOy91F-U24Dw&sig2=e11oAYGMPINQsspU7AnIyQ&bvm=bv.84349003,d.bGQ
[16:24] <Tzunamii> Sorry lads for the long link
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> pratik: "additional drivers"
[16:25] <BluesKaj> pratik, look in the software center for AMD Catalyst
[16:25] <fastputty> ActionParsnip: IP from host
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> pratik: try being bolder with your OS.
[16:25] <fastputty> i got a range of /28 to play with
[16:25] <fastputty> all ip on that range works
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> fastputty: so it's not a  192.168.0.x address?
[16:26] <pratik> Hi i checked there is no "Additional driver" field in system settings
[16:27] <fastputty> nop it is not
[16:27] <Tzunamii> pratik: just check the link above, please (Youtube video on how to install the driver)
[16:27] <pratik> Ok thanks
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> pratik: search in Dash for "jockey"
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> pratik: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lmZKKqqNJ4Y/TohISl6EzVI/AAAAAAAABAo/nQFs-2QMMpY/s1600/dash-jockey-additional-drivers.png
[16:28] <pratik> What is Dash ?
[16:28] <pratik> Search in dash ?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> pratik: yes
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> pratik: press your Windows key. Dash shows up
[16:29] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: it hasn't been called jockey for a while now afaik
[16:29] <daftykins> though, my mistake if it still works
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> !find jockey
[16:30] <dupingping> there is no man who can help me?
[16:30] <pratik> Oh thanks I got the app
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> dupingping  with whatN
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> dupingping: use the OS as it is designed and you won't have any issues
[16:33] <daftykins> dupingping: you haven't asked an actual question yet.
[16:36] <pratik> Hi -> http://postimg.org/image/8csam0hh7/
[16:37] <pratik> What do i do further?
[16:37] <k1l> pratik: what is the task? install amd driver?
[16:38] <daftykins> pratik: pick one, like the middle one.
[16:38] <pratik> :( dont make me confused please , which 1 should i choose out of 3?
[16:38] <pratik> I dont know
[16:38] <k1l> the middle one
[16:39] <pratik> Yes , I have to install AMD driver ,
[16:39] <pratik> Thanks , i m going for middle
[16:39] <daftykins> pratik: i did say the middle one...
[16:39] <daftykins> well done
[16:40] <dupingping> hi
[16:40] <pratik> Was that a reason , my Laptop was consuming more Battery on Ubuntu , but it was having proper battery life on Win 7 ?
[16:41] <pratik> Is there battery life problem on Ubuntu ?
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> pratik: the GPU wasn't running correctly as the driver wasn't correct
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> pratik: battery life is fine in Ubuntu. You just haven't added drivers. It's like installing Windows but not adding drivers for sound then asking "is sound an issue in Windows?"
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> pratik: it's absolute nonsense
[16:43] <pratik> Ok i think Ubuntu should have auto suggested me for Video drivers ! nevertheless i will see how it works after installing vid drivers.
[16:43] <OerHeks> Windows would.
[16:43] <dupingping> buy
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> pratik: it does for me but I don't use AMD stuff
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: does it do that now?
[16:45] <pratik> I must say your knowledge of Linux commands is Extreme ! You are great software developer !
[16:45] <Nixus> my Xubuntu 14.04 does an instant shutdown, then power up again when I press the power button. Any help is appreciated. Thank you ! It's a fresh install BTW
[16:45] <Ribes> ciao
[16:45] <OerHeks> ActionParsnip, sure, windows gives a driver with updates. Neverless Ubuntu/linux gives you a choise to use opensource drivers only, no demand.
[16:45] <Ribes> !list
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: cool. I've not used Windows on the desktop for years now
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> pratik  http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html
[16:47] <pratik> Thanks !
[16:48] <dgonix> Кто ставил Ubuntu 15.04 Alpha 2 Releases
[16:48] <cfhowlett> !ru | dgonix,
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> pratik: better?
[16:48] <pratik> I will try that out
[16:49] <Nixus> anyone?
[16:50] <cfhowlett> !ask | Nixus
[16:50] <dgonix> Who has set himself the Ubuntu 15.04 Alpha 2 Releases?
[16:50] <Nixus> !ask | Nixus
[16:50] <cfhowlett> !vivid | dgonix,
[16:51] <Nixus> ask to ask?
[16:51] <cfhowlett> Nixus, sorry.  patience.
[16:51] <daftykins> Nixus: no, just ask the question. read what ubottu said
[16:51] <daftykins> oh you did ask.
[16:51] <dgonix> Yeah , I bet I like it
[16:52] <cfhowlett> dgonix, discussion in #ubuntu+1
[16:52] <pratik> I would like to ask , generally how much bettery life should be(in hours) when working on  Ubuntu?
[16:52] <EriC^^> pratik: it depends on your laptop
[16:53] <pratik> I have sony vaio E series
[16:53] <EriC^^> pratik: check manufacturer's specifications
[16:53] <cfhowlett> pratik, installing the proper drivers is advised
[16:53] <achilles> hi, i'm installing 14.04.1 from the minimal image on a usb stick.  install fails at base install first with warnings like "Debootstrap warning. Warning: couldn't download package perl" for about a dozen packages.  looking at the console output, i see things like "debconf-copydb: Cannot open file /target/var/cache/debconf/config.dat-new: No such file or directory"
[16:53] <OerHeks> depends on what you do with the system, better batterylife is such a marketing thing
[16:53] <pratik> It lasts for 2.5 hr on Win 7 , but 1.5 to 2 hr on Ubuntu i observed
[16:54] <mk2soldier> Hi guys, how can I renew the IP address assigned from the router (DHCP) to my PC? In network settings I select Method: Automatic (DHCP) but even after removing and reinserting the ethernet cable I still get the previous address (initially manually assigned from me) in fact the DHCP address pool should start from <IP_ADDRESS> and I get <IP_ADDRESS> Thank you very much for your time.. Sorry for my bad english..
[16:54] <achilles> indeed, the directory /target/var/cache/debconf doesn't even exist
[16:54] <EriC^^> pratik: that would be maybe because of the gpu or something
[16:54] <EriC^^> i get around the same on both win and ubuntu, a lousy 2hours hp pavilion g6
[16:55] <OerHeks> pratik, so without driver you have 1.5 hour ? now test again.
[16:55] <EriC^^> i have an older dell that gets 7 hours
[16:55] <pratik> I am installing Drivers from APP called Jocky . Will it improve my lappie's battery life ?
[16:56] <jan_> i'am serach for a logo maker for Ubuntu, is ther a programm for ??
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> jan_  try GIMP
[16:57] <cfhowlett> jan_gimp, inkscape, blender, pencil, krita ..
[16:57] <jan_> ok
[16:58] <OerHeks> mk2soldier, strange, you get a IP outside the pool, maybe restart your router?
[16:58] <jan_> but a serach a programm with a wizard ...
[16:58] <cfhowlett> jan_, sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-graphics          for the full meal deal.
[16:58] <evoltech> Hello all!  I am attempting to install Ubuntu 14.04 on a GPT encrypted root partition and encrypted swap.  I do not want to use the full disk so I use the custum installed. After I get all the partiions installed correctly the installer continues.  When I eventually reboot its like there is no grub and eventually the BiOS reports no OS found.  Can any one help me out here?
[17:00] <mk2soldier> OerHeks: thank you now I try
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  nice tip!
[17:00] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, :)
[17:02] <chebit> hi
[17:02] <Pheetard> Hey guys. Having some trouble getting my webcam to work.
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> Pheetard  does it work with cheese (the program, not the food)
[17:04] <Pheetard> It's a built-in webcam on a compac laptop (Presario CQ60, if it helps), which i'd assume is attached by some kind of internal USB like the memory card slot.
[17:05] <Pheetard> but it's not listed in lsusb's output
[17:07] <Pheetard> "dmesg| grep uvc" returns some stuff, though, which seems to indicate that the OS knows the camera's there.
[17:09] <Pheetard> but cheese doesn't detect it
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> Pheetard  what's the output of    lsusb|pastebinit
[17:11] <basic> Maybe this helps you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/124240/how-do-i-make-the-webcam-on-a-compaq-presario-cq60-notebok-work
[17:12] <Pheetard> thanks!
[17:13] <basic> You're welcome
[17:15] <Pheetard> hmmm, nope, but now i've got an error message, which gives me something to work with.
[17:17] <snwr34p3r> my mouse flickers and disappears  whats a quick fix so i dont have to google
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> snwr34p3r  an usb mouse?
[17:17] <snwr34p3r> yea it works
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> snwr34p3r  sime issue with a cable mouse?
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> same*
[17:18] <snwr34p3r> it doesnt die or cut out the pointer just flickers and when i go screen to screen it will disappear if i move mouse around it comes back
[17:19] <snwr34p3r> tried other ports and a different mouse its the same like its not be drawn properly
[17:21] <beisheim> hi
[17:21] <beisheim> hi
[17:22] <beisheim> is there somebody?
[17:22] <k1l> beisheim: yes
[17:24] <basic> @beisheim yea
[17:25] <dexter1> :)
[17:28] <snwr34p3r> anyone familiar with port forwarding and alfa wifi setups ?
[17:30] <torito> help addbutton
[17:34] <daftykins> snwr34p3r: how is that ubuntu related?
[17:34] <vifino> Hello, I tried to install sflphone, and I am wondering why there is no JACK audio option, even though the version should have it.
[17:35] <snwr34p3r> well you know its so busy in here i didnt feel an off topic question would get anyones panties in a bunch but guess i was wrong
[17:35] <FailBit> question. I created a PGP key using the "Keys and Passwords" dialog but it never appeared in the list
[17:35] <FailBit> is this a known issue?
[17:36] <k1l> FailBit: generating a pgp key can take some time.  and with some time i mean longer than 10 minutes
[17:36] <FailBit> it takes that long to generate it, or to publish it?
[17:36] <MortezaE> Hi, I need some command to tell to my friend to find out which version of ubuntu is he running
[17:36] <tonyt> uname -a
[17:36] <tonyt> to see the version
[17:36] <k1l> FailBit: to generate it. after that you need to publish it by loading it onto a keyserver
[17:36] <daftykins> snwr34p3r: that's not really a good attitude to approach volunteer channels with. feel free to take it to ##networking
[17:37] <xangua> MortezaE: lsb_release -a
[17:37] <MortezaE> tonyt, it's about kernel
[17:37] <k1l> MortezaE: "lsb_release -a" will talk about the ubuntu version
[17:37] <MortezaE> thank u xangua k1l
[17:38] <vifino> MortezaE: lsb_release -a for ubuntu version, uname -r for kernel version.
[17:38] <MortezaE> t u :)
[17:38] <snwr34p3r> daftykins: well it was a harmless question instead of your mocking reply you could have said go to ##networking, thank you either way for the correct channel to ask my question though
[17:38] <FailBit> I have decent hardware; htop is showing that /usr/bin/gpg2 is actually sleeping
[17:39] <FailBit> but
[17:39] <FailBit> ah
[17:39] <FailBit> there it is
[17:39] <FailBit> sorry.
[17:39] <daftykins> snwr34p3r: channel policy is what it is, i'm sorry you chose to take offense by my statements, but that is down to you i'm afraid :)
[17:46] <wawrek> is there a way of checking the size of a file to be downloaded from a website (before starting the download)?
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> wawrek  when you start the download, it asks where to put it, thereby showing the size
[17:50] <parsnip`> test
[17:51] <TheCommieDuck> Originally my touchpad wasn't detected...after upgrading the kernel from 3.13 to 3.16 it's now listed as 'UNKNOWN' by xinput (and doesn't support multitouch and it has a weird graphical artifact under the cursor..along with a squashed cursor). any idea?
[17:52] <MortezaE> parsnip`, Hello dear :)
[17:52] <parsnip`> Hi :)
[17:52] <wawrek> MonkeyDust: I meant programatically. I made a web scraper that downloads images. I would like to stop the download if the image is too big
[17:53] <MortezaE> pars
[17:54] <parsnip`> Is TeXLive -> full install best way to install LaTeX on Ubuntu?  If I don't want to use "full", what is cleanest way to deal with random packages? ~/texmf with care?
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> wawrek  in what coding language? html?
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> oh, web scraper
[17:57] <wawrek> shell
[17:58] <wawrek> I use convert (iamgemagick ) or wget to download images...
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> wawrek  then maybe ask in #bash
[17:58] <wawrek> MonkeyDust: thanks, that is a good point. i will.
[18:00] <TheCommieDuck> Ooh. changing from xorg to the fthingy drivers fixed the mouse display and software rendering.
[18:00] <TheCommieDuck> but I still can't seem to get multitouch on my touchpad.
[18:01] <adam__>
[18:16] <HEROnymous> Hey folks, I'm going to be setting up dual boot with windows.  I've got ubuntu on a drive already, and have another drive that I'm going to install windows on.  is there a means by which to just add a grub entry that boots windows off the windows drive, or do I need to get freaky to make it work?
[18:20] <DJ_Unibob> It would be easier to install windows to a partition first, then install ubuntu that way, otherwise windows boot loader won't even see grub
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> HEROnymous  windows installation ruins grub
[18:21] <fbsd> hi
[18:21] <DJ_Unibob> I had a heck of a time fixing grub yesterday, then again, my optical drive might be on it's last legs.
[18:22] <Dudytz> is anyone know a gui program to "easy" manage ssh tunels?
[18:22] <MonkeyDust> Dudytz  gigolo
[18:22] <Dudytz> MonkeyDust: thanks!
[18:24] <Jef91> What is the best way to install the latest version of openoffice.org on Ubuntu?
[18:24] <Jef91> Is there a PPA?
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> Jef91  ppa's are not supported here, better stick to the repo's
[18:26] <OerHeks> Jef91, there is, but might not be stable, so not the best way. best way is to wait for updates.
[18:26] <OerHeks> applies for the bodhi-thing too
[18:27] <Tzunamii> Jef91: Check your private messages.
[18:28] <OerHeks> !pm | Tzunamii
[18:28] <Tzunamii> OerHeks: I was giving him some advice. Not asking a Q.
[18:29] <Tzunamii> OerHeks: Now go and have a beer and point your finger at someone else
[18:29] <OerHeks> That factoid should be turned around
[18:30] <HEROnymous> MonkeyDust, ok, the ubuntu drive won't even be in the computer when I install windows.
[18:31] <HEROnymous> after windows is installed, I'll reinsert the drive with ubuntu, and the bios will subsequently boot from it, which will bring up grub.  ideally, I'd like to be able to select booting from the other drive - which has windows on it - from the grub menu.
[18:32] <OerHeks> HEROnymous, that would be easy then, boot ubuntu, sudo update-grub # and windows should be added, but not sure windows boots correctly as it expects to be the only hdd
[18:33] <OerHeks> !gub
[18:33] <OerHeks> !grub
[18:33] <HEROnymous> oh, it'll automagically add windows if I just run update-grub?  I don't need to manually add it to any configs first?
[18:36] <OerHeks> HEROnymous, nope, that will do
[18:36] <GeekDude> Hey, stpid question
[18:36] <HEROnymous> cool, thanks
[18:37] <GeekDude> I have a desktop upstairs running ubuntu server
[18:37] <GeekDude> Can I remotely reinstall ubuntu server?
[18:37] <bekks> GeekDude: Yes.
[18:37] <ikonia> no
[18:37] <ikonia> really ?
[18:37] <bekks> Why not? :)
[18:37] <ikonia> how are you going to re-install something without access to a console
[18:37] <ikonia> console
[18:37] <HEROnymous> ikonia, there're lots of means by which to access a console remotelt
[18:38] <ikonia> that wasn't the question
[18:38] <megachaos> hey people
[18:38] <GeekDude> hey megachaos
[18:38] <megachaos> lol ^
[18:38] <ikonia> lol ?
[18:38] <megachaos> his name
[18:39] <spooky_action> Yay! it's resyncing: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9870287/
[18:39] <HEROnymous> GeekDude, do you have any means by which to access the console remotely?  also, why specifically do you want/need to reinstall it?
[18:40] <GeekDude> I've got ssh on it, and I don't really need to reinstall it. It was more of a hypothetical
[18:40] <GeekDude> I'd probably just actually walk upstairs if I wanted to reinstall it
[18:40] <ikonia> GeekDude: you can't do it realistically without access to the console outside of the OS
[18:41] <ikonia> despite what people are saying
[18:41] <GeekDude> I'd imagine there'd be someway to install it onto a second partition while I'm still running my current installation
[18:41] <GeekDude> then set grub to boot the second partition and reboot
[18:42] <ikonia> GeekDude: debootstrap for example, but it's not an easy option
[18:42] <ikonia> hence "realistic"
[18:43] <GeekDude> huh. Yeah, I'll probably just walk upstairs later
[18:43] <GeekDude> That does look like what I was looking for, so thanks
[18:43] <parsnip`> Hi, my .Xresources is not affecting apps opened from launcher in kubuntu.
[18:44] <statik> hi there, could someone help a linux noob setup imagemagick?
[18:44] <ikonia> define setup
[18:45] <statik> ikonia, well, I'm trying to install imagemagick by compiling it with hdri support
[18:45] <ikonia> does the repo not contain it?
[18:45] <statik> with hdri support? I think not
[18:45] <ikonia> have you checked?
[18:46] <alishim> hello :)
[18:48] <statik> ikonia, I think I dun goofed, running identify -list configure | grep DELEGATES returns identify: UnableToOpenConfigureFile `configure.xml'
[18:48] <ikonia> statik: ?
[18:49] <ikonia> what is the end goal of that command ?
[18:49] <statik> ikonia, to check if my imagemagick has hdri support
[18:50] <ikonia> I'm not sure, but that doens't look the right syntax
[18:50] <statik> ikonia, sry was checking if I had png support
[18:53] <Apachez> anyone else in here experience problems to return from full screen when running up2date google chrome in up2date ubuntu 14.10? In this particular case on a NUC running Intel HD 5000 graphics
[18:54] <ProfessorKaos64> is there a way to refresh ppa package lists without doing a system update?
[18:54] <ikonia> apt-get update will download the list from the repos
[18:54] <ProfessorKaos64> true, just trying to avoid other packages from being updated at that time
[18:55] <ikonia> apt-get update packagename
[18:55] <Apachez> it will just update the database
[18:55] <Apachez> not the packages themselfs
[18:55] <ikonia> it won't update any actual packages though, just the info
[18:55] <ProfessorKaos64> oh ok thanks, so apt-get upgrade is what the software gui updater sorta does
[18:55] <ProfessorKaos64> ?
[18:56] <ikonia> update and upgrade are two differen commands
[18:56] <ikonia> different
[18:56] <ikonia> make sure you use the right one
[18:57] <ProfessorKaos64> oh I've been using Linux and many distros for a while, just trying to be careful. I have an automatic script to setup retro emulation. Just being careful I don't update the other emulators while I install the "unstable" scummvm from libretro
[18:58] <parsnip`> any ideas on the .Xresources problem. where would i find where the launcher file is?
[19:03] <hotmedal> I'm running Gnome 3.10.4, I was running stellarium and it is not responding, I ended the process from the system manager, but the display won't go away and the mouseover text that was displaying now persists across all workspaces.  Is there a way to log a user in graphically from the command line?
[19:22] <EsoRotica> something long the lines of lightdm -l -u someone -p
[19:26] <uber_hulk> Hi
[19:26] <uber_hulk> What is package for terminus *medium*?
[19:26] <Nixus2> i have a bug when I shut the lid on my laptop, the cursor disappears. But, to get it back, i have to exit GUI (Ctrl alt f1) then go back to GUI (Ctrl alt f7). Can i do make this automated?
[19:27] <uber_hulk> I found regular/bold etc but not the medium
[19:34] <OerHeks> uber_hulk, terminus is not in medium size, as far as i see
[19:34] <smurfy_> stevec - are you there?
[19:34] <OerHeks> regular is pretty medium
[19:35] <uber_hulk> OerHeks: i see how do i set it in urxvt?
[19:37] <OerHeks> uber_hulk, no idea, never used urxvt
[19:37] <uber_hulk>  OerHeks use xterm?
[19:37] <Nixus2> Is there a command that opens and closes the non-gui terminal? Thanks
[19:38] <OerHeks> just the regular gnometerminal, fonts can be editted there in profile.
[19:39] <coolomatics> Nixus2, you mean something like ctrl+alt+f1 to f6?
[19:39] <OerHeks> Nixus2, ctrl alt F2 brings you in console, and ctrl alt f7 brings you back to the desktop
[19:39] <Nixus2> Yeh
[19:40] <Nixus2> I want it to do ctrl alt f1, then ctrl f7
[19:40] <uber_hulk> OerHeks: how do i edit background of gnometerminal?
[19:40] <Nixus2> I have a bug that makes thr cursor disappear after i shut the lid of my laptop
[19:41] <Nixus2> But i can use help.ubuntu.com/community/LaptopLidAndDockScripts
[19:41] <OerHeks> uber_hulk, same, edit > profile > tab background
[19:41] <uber_hulk> I see
[19:42] <Nixus2> Or a virtual key press command?
[19:46] <funkster> Is it possible to check if the crednetial of a wireless network work without connecting?  i am looking to have one wireless card and run a access point and then check if credentials of another wireless network work. anyone know?
[19:47] <OerHeks> funkster, better ask in ##networking or such channel, it is not an ubuntu issue.
[19:47] <OerHeks> my wild guess is no.
[19:47] <bekks> funkster: You cant check that.
[19:48] <funkster> how does lifx do that then, hmmm maybe they have two network devices then.
[19:48] <bekks> funkster: whats is "lifx"?
[19:48] <funkster> google
[19:48] <bekks> Ah, ok, nothing to care about then. Good luck.
[19:50] <DJones> funkster: How does a lightbulb (www.lifx.co) have anything to do with ubuntu (thats the first link on google)
[19:52] <ubuntu> hello
[19:52] <funkster> DJones: it doesn't nor did I say it did. I am trying to connect to wireless networks and run a access point ON ubuntu, with one network device. lifx runs linux and does similar tasks thats why i mentioned it.
[19:55] <DJones> funkster: ok, so why say "Google" immediatley after you were as asked "What is lifx"
[19:56] <DJones> funkster: Please point to specific links rather than just saying "google" they have lots of links, most are irrelevant to the question aty hanbd
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> funkster  we don't know what lifx is, we can help you faster if you tell us
[20:08] <funkster> i mentioned lifx does WHAT i already explained.
[20:09] <funkster> knowing what lifx does helps no one, i already explain what im looking to do, i mentioned it in passing as, curiosity of how are they doing that.
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> funkster  great, so what's lifx exactly
[20:09] <funkster> google
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> so lifx is google?
[20:10] <funkster> you are annoying.
[20:10] <EriC^^> ooooh i want one
[20:11] <ben_g_> Hi
[20:11] <ben_g_> Because of a windows update, the Grub bootloader got turned off again, and I want to re-enable it
[20:11] <EriC^^> !fixgrub | ben_g_
[20:12] <ben_g_> The previous time this happened, it turned out that Grub was still installed, but in the boot order the windows bootloder was in front of Grub (or something similar)
[20:12] <EriC^^> ben_g_: do you have uefi?
[20:13] <DJones> funkster: As I said, google first link for lifx is a lightbulb, if you're not prepared to help by giving detailed links & information, I doubt you'll get any support
[20:13] <ben_g_> EriC^^: yes
[20:14] <DJones> funkster: We cant help you unless you're willing to provide relevant information
[20:14] <EriC^^> ben_g_: change the boot order with sudo efibootmgr, type sudo efibootmgr -v to get the list, then sudo efibootmgr -o <new boot order>
[20:15] <ben_g_> EriC^^: is there also a way to do that from within windows?
[20:15] <EriC^^> ben_g_: i guess, not sure how though
[20:15] <ben_g_> (I'm currently stuck in Windows)
[20:15] <EriC^^> ben_g_: do you have a live usb?
[20:15] <EriC^^> ben_g_: press esc when the pc boots, and select ubuntu instead of os manager
[20:15] <ben_g_> EriC^^: I should still have one lying around somewhere
[20:16] <EriC^^> ben_g_: you should still be able to get into ubuntu somehow using a key when the pc boots
[20:16] <ben_g_> ok
[20:16] <ben_g_> I'll try that, brb
[20:16] <EriC^^> ok
[20:18] <zorgborg> Hi, I updated on friday I think, updates to some display things (sorry I'll try to remember), and since then certain programs will maximise, but not be visible (they are running), ideas?
[20:19] <Pyracantha> hey room
[20:22] <Fun> hi folks
[20:22] <Fun> whats the way to safely unplug usb device?
[20:23] <Fun> or unlike win i can simply physically remove it?
[20:23] <Pyracantha> hi Fun
[20:23] <SchrodingersScat> Fun: could unmount it from your file manager, there should be an ejection symbol next to the drive location.
[20:23] <Fun> cool thanks
[20:24] <Fun> also whats the close enough analog of Visual Studio in Linux?
[20:24] <SchrodingersScat> Fun: at least that's recommended, if you feel like just ripping it out you can live your life how you choose.  There are also other ways to unmount it.
[20:24] <zorgborg> Fun: in the unity launcher, right click the usb drive symbol and select eject/safely remove
[20:24] <Fun> yes I used disk unplug :)
[20:25] <Fun> ty
[20:25] <ben_g> EriC^^: There is no way I can boot into Ubuntu by holding down a key during boot with the Windows bootloader active, but I found the live USB and I'm in the live version now.
[20:25] <ben_g> So what were the commands to change the bootloader again?
[20:26] <EriC^^> ben_g: ok type sudo efibootmgr -v
[20:26] <kittyfirekitty> I am having a problem booting a usb drive that i've used rufus to prepare and try to boot, i am able to change my secure boot settings to get into grub, but when I attempt booting a menu selection it just black screen or returns to a frozen grub menu, i've tried using the "nosplash" and saw a "unable to terminate efi servies" before the screen froze, i've tried using nosplash/noefi boot paramaters and still have no luck booting
[20:27] <SchrodingersScat> Fun: can check list sites like this, then check your repos to see if it's readily available: http://alternativeto.net/software/visual-studio/?platform=linux
[20:27] <ben_g> EriC^^: sudo: efibootmgr: command not found
[20:27] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[20:28] <SchrodingersScat> Fun: can also check your repositories using apt-cache search keyword   and you may find something useful, synaptic and software center have groups you can search through.
[20:28] <ben_g> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9871640/
[20:29] <BluesKaj_> kittyfirekitty, try using the bootsequence to make the usb device boot first in the uefi/bios
[20:30] <kittyfirekitty> BluesKaj_: I have win8.1, so when i say that i've gotten grub to load i'm past that point
[20:30] <EriC^^> ben_g: sudo efibootmgr -o 2001,0000,0003,0004,2003,2002
[20:31] <havoc_hive> How do I enable port 22 for ssh?
[20:31] <EriC^^> havoc_hive: you mean how do you install openssh?
[20:32] <BluesKaj_> yes kittyfirekitty but grub won't show an uninstalled OS, the device has be first in the boot sequnce in order to boot
[20:32] <jatt> nothing, it's the default
[20:32] <ben_g> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9871692/
[20:32] <ben_g> EriC^^: Should the timeout be ?
[20:32] <ben_g> *0
[20:33] <kittyfirekitty> BluesKaj_: grub shows whats in the grub menu.lst config file, i'm familiar with the legacy grub but am not having luck with efi grub
[20:33] <kittyfirekitty> BluesKaj_: i have not uninstalled any os, i'm tring to boot a live usb drive so i can descide if i want to install or not
[20:34] <EriC^^> ben_g: yeah it's ok
[20:34] <ben_g> ok
[20:34] <havoc_hive> EriC^^: Im using Putty from a test terminal to connect ssh to ubuntu in vm
[20:34] <EriC^^> ben_g: try to restart
[20:34] <havoc_hive> EriC^^: and i think there is a closed port 22 cause it says access denied or something like that
[20:35] <BluesKaj_> kittyfirekitty, like I said don't look for the usb device in grub , you won't find it there , you need to set the boot sequence in the uefi/bios
[20:36] <SchrodingersScat> havoc_hive: have you installed openssh-server on the machine you are trying to connect to?
[20:36] <havoc_hive> EriC^^: yep
[20:36] <kittyfirekitty> BluesKaj_: I have actually moved the boot sequence up for my usb drive while it was inserted in the computer, any time i re-enable the secure boot and have the drive inserted i get an error saying its skipping this unsigned ...
[20:37] <havoc_hive> EriC^^: nvm i figured it out. thank you =)
[20:37] <EriC^^> havoc_hive: :)
[20:37] <kittyfirekitty> BluesKaj_: again i'm past that point in my configuration, i have grub loaded, i can browse my files and try to load the kernel but it crashes/freezes
[20:37] <BluesKaj_> kittyfirekitty, disable secure boot in the uefi/bios as well
[20:37] <ben_g> EriC^^: It still goes straight to Windows
[20:38] <kittyfirekitty> i did, i have to re-enable it to load windows8.1 without using the "bitlocker" b.s.
[20:38] <bekks> kittyfirekitty: For getting rid of bitlocker, you have to reinstall Windows.
[20:39] <kittyfirekitty> bekks: not happening till i descide if ubuntu is going to run acceptably on this tablet first
[20:39] <kittyfirekitty> BluesKaj_: do you want me to detail what i've already done so you can get on the same page?
[20:40] <BluesKaj_> I thought you wanted to boot into a usb device containing an OS image that you wanted to install on your pc kittyfirekitty, sorry if I misread your initial question
[20:40] <kittyfirekitty> I am having a problem booting a usb drive that i've used rufus to prepare and try to boot, i am able to change my secure boot settings to get into grub, but when I attempt booting a menu selection it just black screen or returns to a frozen grub menu, i've tried using the "nosplash" and saw a "unable to terminate efi servies" before the screen froze, i've tried using nosplash/noefi boot paramaters and still have no luck booting
[20:42] <EriC^^> ben_g: type sudo efibootmgr -v
[20:43] <ben_g> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9871813/
[20:45] <EriC^^> ben_g: sudo efibootmgr -o 2001,0000,0003,0004,2003,2002
[20:45] <kittyfirekitty> I have also browsed the community forums, lmgtfy and other resources available to me, and have not found anything depicting or even pointing towards my issue
[20:45] <EriC^^> ben_g: then type sudo efibootmgr -v again
[20:45] <EriC^^> kittyfirekitty: did you try nomodeset ? it's worth a shot
[20:45] <OerHeks> kittyfirekitty, bitlocker is not going to help you, installing ubuntu. remove bitlocker ( that requires reinstall windows) then it should work
[20:46] <BluesKaj_> kittyfirekitty, I hate to be rude , but what has your grub issue got to do with booting into a usb device ?
[20:46] <kittyfirekitty> OerHeks: i can boot to grub, i can't load my kernel it gives me an error or blank screen with no error that i've left for 15 min with nothing happening
[20:46] <ben_g> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9871825/
[20:47] <EriC^^> ben_g: ok, that's odd it switched back to windows first by itself
[20:47] <EriC^^> is this a hp laptop?
[20:47] <ben_g> EriC^^: no, Toshiba
[20:47] <Pyracantha> does anyone know of any good beginner guides for new ubuntu users?
[20:48] <EriC^^> ben_g: did you previously rename the grub efi files to get it to work?
[20:48] <EriC^^> your nick seems familiar..
[20:48] <kittyfirekitty> BluesKaj_: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FUEFIBooting&ei=jFbFVMDaJZOtyQTehoC4Dw&usg=AFQjCNFhISiwVSBN22YIqVPKEGx18reoUw&sig2=6W138OKya6RwRPyqLJ0YZA&bvm=bv.84349003,d.aWw
[20:48] <ben_g> EriC^^: I think so, es
[20:48] <EriC^^> ben_g: type sudo parted -l
[20:49] <ben_g> I have no idea how all this stuff works, so both now and last time I was mainly following instructions
[20:49] <ben_g> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9871879/
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> !manual | Pyracantha start here
[20:50] <EriC^^> ben_g: type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[20:50] <ben_g> ok
[20:50] <EriC^^> ben_g: ls -l /mnt/EFI/Boot
[20:51] <BluesKaj_> kittyfirekitty, I suggest you use legacy mode to boot the usb after making it first in the boot sequence, fixing he bit locker issue is something i haven't encountered
[20:51] <Pyracantha> thank you MonkeyDust
[20:51] <kittyfirekitty> BluesKaj_: i'm not having an issue with bitlocker at all
[20:51] <ben_g> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9871911/
[20:51] <kittyfirekitty> BluesKaj_: i'm booting a usb drive, we can IGNORE bitlocker as its on a drive i'm not even accessing
[20:52] <kittyfirekitty> BluesKaj_: i have to use the efi boot loader, there is no legacy mode on this bios
[20:52] <BluesKaj_> ok kittyfirekitty sorry for wasting your time ..
[20:52] <EriC^^> ben_g: yup, they are renamed
[20:52] <OerHeks> kittyfirekitty, secure boot and fastboot disabled?
[20:53] <kittyfirekitty> OerHeks: i can disable secure boot and load grub from my usb drive
[20:53] <EriC^^> ben_g: sudo cp /mnt/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi.backup2
[20:54] <ben_g> ok
[20:54] <EriC^^> ben_g: sudo cp /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi.backup2
[20:54] <ben_g> ok
[20:54] <EriC^^> ben_g: sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[20:54] <EriC^^> ben_g: sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[20:54] <kittyfirekitty> OerHeks: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting <-- Display stuck after grub output --> is where i'm at, adding nosplay/noefi to the boot options isn't getting me to any new errors or progress
[20:55] <ben_g> ok
[20:56] <OerHeks> kittyfirekitty, disable fastboot from within windows and try again. if that does not work, i blame it on bitlocker
[20:59] <ben_g> EriC^^: should it work now?
[20:59] <EriC^^> ben_g: yes try to restart
[20:59] <ben_g> ok
[21:00] <weeirc8089> how to execute app in the background with & so it won't output nothing to the console afterwards?
[21:00] <EriC^^> weeirc8089: <program> & > /dev/null 2>&1
[21:01] <lightsa> hi guys, does anyone have an idea for a minimal (puissance requirement) linux distri ?
[21:01] <weeirc8089> e.g. vlc <filename> &    then keeps dumping err msgs garbaging the console for further use
[21:01] <k1l_> lightsa: lubuntu, or a minimal install and then install what you need.
[21:01] <OerHeks> lightsa, lubuntu is lightweight
[21:01] <weeirc8089> EriC^^: what's the meaning of 2>&1 in the end? (redirect stderr too?)
[21:01] <EriC^^> weeirc8089: vlc filename > /dev/null 2>&1 &
[21:02] <lightsa> ye lubuntu is desktop wise but I was looking for something even smaller. the CPU is very weak (old computer)
[21:02] <EriC^^> weeirc8089: yes redirect stderr to stdout
[21:02] <atirl> hi
[21:02] <k1l_> lightsa: lubuntu is build up for old and slow hardware
[21:02] <atirl> how can I search the version available of certain package in the backport repository from the command-line ?
[21:02] <snkcld> this is my command to make a new user: adduser --disabled-password --gecos "" newusername
[21:02] <jatt> weeirc8089: (vlc <filename>  > /dev/null 2>&1 &)
[21:03] <snkcld> how can i also add the user to the group sudo?
[21:03] <Nytram> lightsa try puppy then
[21:03] <lightsa> puppy ? ok gonna check
[21:03] <k1l_> lightsa: and if you want a non ubuntu distri, ask in ##linux :)
[21:03] <Nytram> It doesn't get much lighter than puppy
[21:04] <ben_g> EriC^^: Ubuntu now works, but the Windows entry reloads Grub again. Should it be fixed with "sudo sed -i 's/bootmgfw.efi/bootmgfw.efi.backup/' /boot/grub/grub.cfg"?
[21:05] <ben_g> (I saved that from the previous time)
[21:05] <EriC^^> ben_g: no, since then i found the file i had lost
[21:05] <EriC^^> hold on
[21:06] <EriC^^> ben_g: sudo nano /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft
[21:06] <EriC^^> replace bootmgfw.efi with bootmgfw.efi.backup2
[21:06] <EriC^^> then sudo update-grub
[21:06] <DevonNOG> hello
[21:07] <DevonNOG> hello  anyone
[21:07] <redruum> EriC^^: that only works with grub but not efi
[21:07] <EriC^^> redruum: i dont follow
[21:08] <EriC^^> redruum: that's what os-prober uses to search for microsoft efi files
[21:08] <linuxr> Hi all, I just installed ubuntu using full disk encryption, which really rocks. I have no wonder however how that works, can someone give me some high-level overview about how this is configured? thanks
[21:09] <ben_g> EriC^^: in the line 'if [ -n "$bcd" -a -n "$bootmgfw" ]; then'? Because I don't see anything with the .efi extension in that file.
[21:09] <redruum> EriC^^: uefi boot loader won't be repaired with update grub.
[21:10] <EriC^^> redruum: grub is loading, but we renamed the microsoft efi file to bootmgfw.efi.backup2 so the one it's finding is actually shimx64.efi right now
[21:10] <EriC^^> ben_g: bootmgfw=$(item_in_dir bootmgfw.efi "$efi/$microsoft/$boot")
[21:10] <EriC^^> it should be that line
[21:10] <ben_g> oh oops
[21:12] <ben_g> EriC^^: ok, done
[21:12] <EriC^^> ben_g: ok sudo update-grub
[21:12] <ben_g> EriC^^: Also that. Restart and try?
[21:12] <EriC^^> yes
[21:12] <ben_g> ok
[21:13] <maxwell> hello
[21:14] <maxwell> I am using Remote Desktop Viewer to connect to a Windows Server 2008, but it doesn't connect
[21:15] <maxwell> When I enter the connection info and connect it just blinks black and returns to the normal grey color.
[21:15] <maxwell> no error messages whatsoever
[21:16] <redruum> You turn off all firewalls on ubuntu and Windows maxwell
[21:16] <maxwell> well, it works from my windows computer
[21:16] <redruum> maxwell: You using internal or external IP.
[21:17] <maxwell> internal
[21:18] <maxwell> yea. it works perfectly from windows
[21:18] <redruum> maxwell: turn off all firewalls on Windows. Ubuntu usually is defaulted off.
[21:18] <maxwell> just checked again
[21:20] <redruum> maxwell: what port is the remote desktop server broad casting
[21:20] <maxwell> the normal one
[21:20] <maxwell> 3389 I think it is
[21:21] <bekks> rdp isnt broadcasting, but the default port is 3389.
[21:21] <maxwell> hmmm
[21:21] <maxwell> wait a sec
[21:21] <maxwell> I disabled the firewall and now I can connect
[21:22] <maxwell> but not from Remote Dektop Viewer
[21:22] <maxwell> Remmina Remote Desktop Client
[21:22] <maxwell> it works from there
[21:22] <redruum> maxwell: You need to put :3389 behind the IP
[21:22] <maxwell> the quality is very bad, but sill
[21:23] <maxwell> *still
[21:23] <maxwell> redruum, isnt that the default port?
[21:23] <maxwell> why whould I need to put it?
[21:24] <maxwell> I tried anyway and it didn't work with the port specified
[21:24] <redruum> The port tells the client where the server is broadcasting.
[21:24] <ben_g> EriC^^: It works, thanks (sorry for taking so long, Windows felt that I wanted it to be fast and decided to install some updates)
[21:25] <csgeek> anyone have any ideas how to deal with this:  https://gist.github.com/safaci2000/fc74244d6fa8e29dcc37  I can't seem to remove the old nvidia driver
[21:25] <maxwell> well, in any case, it doesn't work.
[21:25] <bekks> redruum: rdp does not broadcast, you just connect to the server using the port.
[21:26] <maxwell> as far as I know it doesn't broadcast
[21:26] <maxwell> its just a server listening to a port
[21:27] <redruum> maxwell: Windows firewall I think you can tell it what service or application or ports to allow passage. So you can turn on the firewall.
[21:27] <maxwell> redruum, there is obviously a built in allow rule
[21:27] <bekks> redruum: Yes. But thaht doesnt make RDP broadcast. :)
[21:28] <EriC^^> ben_g: great, no problem
[21:28] <maxwell> and it works from this Remmina client thing
[21:30] <maxwell> but it doesn't scale correctly and  dragging isnt working
[21:30] <maxwell> so thats not really a solution
[21:30] <ZA> hi lads & lasses
[21:32] <OerHeks> hi ZA
[21:32] <rypervenche> maxwell: Did you click on the remmina button that allows your keys to bind?
[21:33] <redruum> maxwell: I liked using vnc viewers. Seem easier.
[21:33] <dinet> evening. can anyone recomment a gui filemanager that is not the gnome standard?
[21:34] <maxwell> rypervenche,  what you mean?
[21:34] <k1l_> dinet: thunar
[21:35] <rypervenche> maxwell: I'm not 100% sure if Remmina has the button in RDP, but it does in VNC. There is a button that looks like part of a keyboard, that makes all keys that you press be pressed on the remote machine.
[21:35] <maxwell> well yes
[21:35] <dinet> k1l_: gonna give it a try. thanks
[21:35] <maxwell> the keyboard and nouse work
[21:36] <maxwell> *mouse
[21:36] <maxwell> its just dragging
[21:36] <maxwell> and the color is horrible
[21:36] <maxwell> looks like the 90s
[21:37] <guntbert> maxwell: don't press <enter> so often - you are scrolling the channel faster
[21:37] <redruum> maxwell: VNC client and server. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[21:38] <filly><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:38] <maxwell> redruum, this means another server running
[21:38] <maxwell> more resources
[21:38] <maxwell> oh wel
[21:38] <guntbert> filly: don't
[21:38] <OerHeks> filly, yes .. no, please don't spam.
[21:38] <redruum> maxwell: I think it's better.
[21:39] <maxwell> no choice. but VNC doesn't have that much managment
[21:40] <ZA> any one know if there is WAMP for Linux
[21:41] <redruum> maxwell: I think vnc viewers are rdp clients
[21:41] <guntbert> !lamp | ZA
[21:41] <mbalmer> ZA, there is not.
[21:42] <ZA> hmm so lamp can't support PHP?
[21:43] <ZA> but ya will do some goggling im sure there is tons of stuff
[21:44] <k1l_> ZA: on ubuntu you install the packages you need from the official ubuntu repos. see the link the bot gave you for a howto
[21:45] <ZA> alrighty thanks peeps. thanks for help
[21:46] <shoxmalik> hi, linux antivirus link please ??
[21:47] <k1l_> shoxmalik: there is not such a thing like you install on windows. on ubuntu you fix the software that got you the virus.
[21:48] <maxwell> k1l_, theres ClamAV
[21:48] <k1l_> maxwell: yes, scanning for windows viruses. you can use that to clean a windows partition
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> !av | sharjeel
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> oops, tab fail
[21:49] <k1l_> he is already gone
[21:51] <Alex311360> Hello, I'm having trouble with XRDP. I'm trying to control it from another PC on my local network, but when I login the background is some kind of black and white pattern, and the cursor is a X. What do I do?
[21:51] <redruum> maxwell: RDP is native but not secure at all,.unless your connection is secure. If not worried about the man in middle seeing everything use RDP. VNC is very secure. Never compared either side by side.
[21:51] <curiousx> k1l_: idk if this still active but... http://penguinpills.sourceforge.net/
[21:53] <Ben64> vnc isn't secure.....
[21:54] <redruum> Ben64: depends on the settings
[21:55] <redruum> Ben64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[21:55] <Ben64> i know what vnc is
[21:56] <rypervenche> VNC through an SSH tunnel ftw.
[21:56] <redruum> Ben64: https://www.realvnc.com/ and you can use a cell phone.
[21:57] <Alex311360> Can someone please help me with my question?
[21:57] <Alex311360> Also it's pretty funny that when I joined people were already talking about RDP and VNC
[21:57] <Alex311360> is that a popular topic here?
[21:59] <consolidated> Alex311360: welcome to X11
[21:59] <consolidated> wait brain fart
[21:59] <consolidated> X
[21:59] <Ben64> redruum: do you work for vnc or something
[22:00] <Alex311360> still though, what's the problem with my XRDP
[22:00] <redruum> rypervenche: that's overkill for VNC. But needed with RPN
[22:00] <aeon-ltd> Alex311360: if the cursor is an x then you've made it into the x environment but you aren't running a wm/de you'd recognise like unity
[22:00] <consolidated> Alex311360: thats Xwindows without a windows manager
[22:00] <Alex311360> oh
[22:00] <Alex311360> how exactly do i fix it?
[22:00] <aeon-ltd> Alex311360: configure it to launch one
[22:00] <Ben64> Alex311360: are you trying to control the main desktop or have a 2nd one
[22:01] <redruum> Here is what ubuntu recommends. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Clients Ben64
[22:01] <Ben64> Alex311360: because right now, you're on the path to creating a second desktop
[22:01] <Alex311360> Main desktop, and please be a little bit patient, i'm a bit of a newbie
[22:01] <Ben64> redruum: yes, i still know what vnc is, and it is still NOT secure
[22:01] <Alex311360> like this is my first experience w/ ubuntu
[22:01] <Dr_Dan> Q: is the the Docky plugin for weather still broken?
[22:02] <Ben64> Alex311360: it'd be much easier to use something like vino, since that comes with ubuntu, has a nice easy configuration and shares the main desktop
[22:03] <Alex311360> what if I'm using a alternate version of ubuntu like lubuntu
[22:03] <Ben64> Alex311360: should still work
[22:03] <Alex311360> i'm gonna go see if it's on there, if not i'll probably see if it's available on apt-get
[22:04] <Ben64> Alex311360: try running "vino-preferences"
[22:05] <Orpheon> Hello, I'm having issues with unity. Right at boot things work fine, however after half an hour opening the launcher dash bugs out more and more, with graphical glitches, miscolorations and text misrenderings until at one point it crashes. I had this bug in my old 12.something ubuntu so I replaced it with a fresh 14.10 which is suffering from the same problem. Any ideas how to find out what's happening?
[22:05] <Alex311360> Ben64: didn't have it, it's installing right now
[22:05] <Alex311360> let me know what to do after it's done
[22:06] <Orpheon> (crashes = system freezes, no response even to ctrl-alt-f1 etc)
[22:06] <Alex311360> k it's donwe
[22:06] <Alex311360> *Done
[22:06] <Dr_Dan> Orpheon: try instslling xfce-desktop
[22:07] <Dr_Dan> or better yet,  install the whole Xubuntu 14 ISO
[22:07] <Orpheon> Dr_Dan, is there no way to get unity to work with this? I really like it (yes I've tried xfce before). Also, this still points to some problem somewhere
[22:08] <Dr_Dan> <--- not a fan of dash
[22:10] <arun> guys, which is the lightest working web browser in linux?
[22:10] <Dr_Dan> epiphany
[22:10] <Dr_Dan> they use not in raspberry pi
[22:10] <Dr_Dan> now
[22:10] <Dr_Dan> not not
[22:11] <redruum> arun: that question could cause a flaming war.
[22:11] <mbalmer> arun, netcat and a bit of imagination...
[22:11] <redruum> arun: Lol
[22:11] <arun> redruum: ok...
[22:11] <arun> mbalmer: lol
[22:12] <arun> As ff and chromium are too heavy they are not good for old PC..
[22:12] <arun> what might be good for old PC ?
[22:12] <redruum> Ben64: You have any thoughts
[22:13] <Ben64> redruum: please don't ping me
[22:13] <dinet> I'm trying to get the translations working in KDE but it seems the packages wont install
[22:16] <dinet> kde-l10n-sv is installed and the locale-settings in KDE say that the package is not installed
[22:17] <Dr_Dan> arun, try midori or ephiphany
[22:17] <samthewildone> Can someone lend me a hand on this problem > http://pastebin.com/rebVdU6U
[22:18] <samthewildone> the application force closes upon the "cannot find libgstream".
[22:18] <samthewildone> I installed all the codecs & did a complete reinstall of both the os & the application.
[22:18] <samthewildone> This same error happened on unity.
[22:24] <marcelo> hello
[22:24] <marcelo> Are there anybody here  ?
[22:24] <k1l_> marcelo: just ask you ubuntu question :)
[22:24] <Ben64> 1672 people, including you
[22:26] <marcelo> ok , thanks Y need to know how to change video driver in ubunto. If is possible in graphics mode and in text mode too.
[22:26] <HowardTheDuck> hey
[22:26] <aeon-ltd> marcelo: you just uninstall then install the one you want usually
[22:27] <k1l_> marcelo: change from what driver to what driver?
[22:27] <HowardTheDuck> i take it to boot from a USB stick to install Ubuntu I need to do more than just throw the ISO on tehre
[22:28] <marcelo> I dont know tool for change video driver when linux dont start in graphis.
[22:28] <k1l_> HowardTheDuck: you need to "burn" it there. either with a usb-creator or with dd
[22:28] <HowardTheDuck> i'm getting one called universal usb installer by pendrivelinux
[22:28] <dinet> HowardTheDuck: here is a good guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[22:29] <marcelo> I can start in text mode but dont know configure tool () if exist) in order to change video driver config fron text mode
[22:29] <marcelo> or console mode}
[22:29] <k1l_> marcelo: that depends on what driver you installed
[22:30] <redruum> marcelo: so the machine is failing to boot into graphically interface.
[22:30] <k1l_> marcelo: so we need a lot more infos on what system, what video card, what driver, what error  etc...
[22:30] <Dr_Dan> try:   startx
[22:30] <redruum> marcelo: so the machine is failing to boot into graphically interface.
[22:30] <k1l_> no, Dr_Dan dont do startx on ubuntu
[22:31] <k1l_> if you want to start the xserver start lightdm.
[22:31] <Dr_Dan> ;) gotcha
[22:31] <redruum> Shut up. Find out if x11 Is failing to start from marcelo
[22:33] <linux18824> hi
[22:33] <redruum> Calmly marcelo Is it failing to load graphics.
[22:34] <dinet> I'm trying to get KDE in swedish. the kde-translation package is installed but the settings refuses to use them. any ideas?
[22:34] <W6NZX> easy question i hope, I have ubuntu 14.04, i've switched the DE to i3, but for the life of me i can't find what setting to change to make the screen stop dimming. I've diabled it under a unity setting but under i3 nada it still dims, nothing in i3 should make the screen dim.
[22:34] <W6NZX> pulling my ahir out trying to find it.
[22:35] <marcelo> Please, letme explain abut me problem
[22:36] <michel_> Olá
[22:36] <dinet> and becuase of that the translation works.. ok, time for a reboot and se so everything works as they should
[22:36] <redruum> marcelo: okay. Because I want to know if the x-server is failing or the grub is
[22:36] <michel_> hello
[22:37] <Bashing-om> michel_: Welcome to th channel, state your issue .
[22:38] <happyfr0gg> Hello, how is everyone?
[22:38] <W6NZX> is under dconf editor?
[22:38] <arun> guys, why "from UbuntuDrivers import detect" module doesn't work though ubuntu-drivers-common is installed ...
[22:39] <Kris545545_> what do i need to do to get a ubuntu cloak?
[22:40] <k1l_> !membership | Kris545545_
[22:40] <Bashing-om> Kris545545_: Join #freenode and ask there .
[22:41] <k1l_> Bashing-om: no. freenode can only set them after the community council gave them membership.
[22:41] <Bashing-om> k1l_: :)) .
[22:41] <happyfr0gg> What is an ubuntu cloak?
[22:42] <W6NZX> any thoughts on where to change the power settings?
[22:43] <Bashing-om> happyfr0gg: Do in status window -> whois Bashing-om <- as I am, I am .
[22:43] <minimec> W6NZX: If you start the gnome-settings-daemon in your i3 session, the gnome power settings would indeed be used. So you can change them with dcinf-editor.
[22:43] <happyfr0gg> W6NZX, what os do you have?
[22:43] <happyfr0gg> Bashing-om, okay, give me a second.
[22:44] <W6NZX> happyfr0gg 14.04 with i3 as the DE
[22:44] <Dr_Dan> Q: is the the Docky plugin for weather still broken?
[22:44] <happyfr0gg> whois Bashing-om
[22:45] <marcelo> I am use linux ubuntu lxle
[22:45] <Bashing-om> happyfr0gg: " /whois Bashing-om " preferably in the status window .
[22:45] <Chuck_Norris> marcelo: did you asked in ubuntu-es ?
[22:45] <k1l_> marcelo: for lxle please see their support. it changes stuff on ubuntu so we cant know
[22:46] <W6NZX> minimec service gnome-settings status returns unrecognized service
[22:46] <Chuck_Norris> ask*
[22:46] <happyfr0gg> Bashing-om, yeah, i forgot to input the forward slash symbol.
[22:47] <W6NZX> happyfr0gg any thoughts?
[22:48] <marcelo> have ubutu text or console config tool ?
[22:48] <happyfr0gg> I am still running my Google fu.
[22:48] <Chuck_Norris> marcelo: conectate a ubuntu-es o enviame un privado
[22:48] <Chuck_Norris> !english
[22:49] <k1l_> marcelo: see on the lxle page where to get support. we cant support that
[22:50] <minimec> W6NZX: gnome-settings-daemon is not a system service, but part of the gnome user session. For example... I use enlightenemt e17 WM with a gnome-session (gnome-settings-daemon). I don not know if you use your i3 WM the same way, but aparently not.
[22:50] <happyfr0gg> W6NZX, what exactly are you trying to accomplish from the power settings?
[22:51] <Chuck_Norris> oh! k1l_ is right lxle isn't supported, sry, marcelo usa un entorno de escritorio oficial soportado por la counidad
[22:51] <W6NZX> happyfr0gg Basically I never want the screen to sleep at all, i use the power button :D
[22:54] <marcelo> dear people, really i cant understand. I asked about how to configure ubuntu in text mode.
[22:55] <W6NZX> I've tried xset -dpms, xset dpms off etc with no luck.
[22:55] <Ben64> marcelo: you really haven't provided any information, despite many requests that you do so. we cannot help you without knowing what is going on
[22:55] <happyfr0gg> W6NZX, try this tool TLP: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/10/advanced-power-management-tool-tlp-06.html
[22:56] <k1l_> marcelo: you dont use ubuntu at all. so please see lxle support and not the ubuntu support.
[22:56] <bprompt> marcelo:    why is ubuntu not loading xserver? or the GUI
[22:56] <bprompt> marcelo:    tried running "startx" if at the terminal, yet?
[22:56] <arun> guys, why "from UbuntuDrivers import detect" module doesn't work though ubuntu-drivers-common is installed ...
[22:56] <Ben64> k1l_: ah, didn't realize lxle was a distro
[22:56] <k1l_> bprompt: stop ti!
[22:57] <Tobbi> Where do we notify the ubuntu apps directory of an update to our software?
[22:57] <k1l_> bprompt: startx is just plain wrong. and the user is not even using ubuntu. he uses lxle so he should ask their support
[22:58] <delinquentme> looking for a script to recursively go through a directory and delete copies of files?
[22:58] <delinquentme> suggstions?
[22:58] <happyfr0gg> Tobbi, please rephrase your question.
[22:58] <Bashing-om> Tobbi: (??) The package manager takes care of keeping the system updated .
[22:58] <k1l_> delinquentme: fslint is that program
[22:58] <marcelo> In past, several distro had text tools for adjust configuration. I dont remember now.
[22:59] <MonkeyDust> delinquentme  would be something like   find / -name blah -exec rm {} \;
[22:59] <Tobbi> happyfr0gg: Okay, the latest version of SuperTux is listed as 0.3.3 https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/saucy/supertux/ though we released 0.3.4 at least 1 year ago. How do we get that updated?
[23:00] <trism> Tobbi: it's 0.3.4 in 14.04+ at least
[23:00] <happyfr0gg> Tobbi, what is your relation to SuperTux?
[23:00] <trism> !info supertux | Tobbi
[23:01] <bprompt> marcelo:    depends on the distribution, keep in mind the channel is ubuntu-distribution oriented, depending on the issue, you could resolve it by editing xorg.conf or not, but in the past, and maybe even still so, on some other distributions, yes
[23:01] <Tobbi> happyfr0gg: I am mostly fixing bugs in SuperTux, got commit access etc.
[23:01] <k1l_> delinquentme: or fdupes if you want cli only
[23:01] <Tobbi> Oh, right!
[23:01] <Tobbi> trism: I guess it's okay then.
[23:02] <wtfmucker> hi im new to ubuntu
[23:02] <Bashing-om> Tobbi: Are you running "/saucy/supertux/ " ? as releae 13.04 (saucy) is End-Of-Life .
[23:02] <happyfr0gg> Tobbi, when you are done with fixing the bugs in SuperTux, upload it with a newer version on the server where the others reside.
[23:02] <k1l_> Tobbi: new version com with new ubuntu releases. only security and heavy bug patches to already released ubuntu versions.
[23:02] <wtfmucker> can anyone help my i like to monitor my own wifi network
[23:03] <Tobbi> Bashing-om: I am not running anything right now. I just got notified by someone who claimed that SuperTux was outdated. So, never mind.
[23:03] <arun> delinquentme: you can use fslint
[23:03] <k1l_> Tobbi: read this if you want to change packages in 14.04 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[23:03] <Tobbi> happyfr0gg: We need to discuss when to release the next version first. IMO it's overdue. But I don't like this heavy decision to rest on my shoulders.
[23:04] <minimec> wtfmucker: http://askubuntu.com/questions/192654/i-need-a-good-network-monitoring-tool
[23:04] <happyfr0gg> W6NZX, has the TLP tool helped you out?
[23:04] <Chuck_Norris> wtfmucker: http://autoscan-network.com/download/
[23:05] <wtfmucker> thx minumec il try the can u support my when i need some help cos im a newby
[23:05] <happyfr0gg> Tobbi, are there other developers collaberating on SuperTux?
[23:05] <wtfmucker> thc chuck
[23:06] <Tobbi> happyfr0gg: Yeah, there are probably 2 more, but all of us contribute more or less intermittently after the original team completely abandoned the project.
[23:06] <Tobbi> https://code.google.com/p/supertux/source/list
[23:06] <wtfmucker> i already tryed some things but my system comes out faling so i must do some thing wrong
[23:07] <happyfr0gg> Tobbi, that sucks the original team abandoned updating SuperTux. I have never run it.
[23:08] <Tobbi> happyfr0gg: It's alright. We mostly do bugfixing, keeping the project alive, maybe some small features...
[23:09] <happyfr0gg> I am in the process of downloading the x86 version of Windows 7 HP. I learned a while ago that my CPU is not capable of doing virtualization, even though it is a 64 bit.
[23:10] <keviv> Does ssh-keygen not work with virtual files?
[23:11] <happyfr0gg> I have Vbox installed so I am going to try to install Windows 7 HP x86 as a VM.
[23:13] <keviv> `ssh-keyscan $host 2> /dev/null | ssh-keygen -lf /dev/stdin` and `ssh-keygen -lf <(ssh-keyscan $host 2> /dev/null)` both complain that the file isn't a public key file, but if I redirect ssh-keyscan's stdout to a temp file, and pass that filename to ssh-keygen, it works :/
[23:13] <wtfmucker> minimec: dos it give passwords and messenger messegaes etc
[23:13] <wtfmucker> something like that im looking for
[23:14] <wtfmucker> send from android devices ...
[23:14] <minimec> happyfr0gg: "I learned a while ago that my CPU is not capable of doing virtualization..." I had to activate these options in the BIOS for my CPU.
[23:14] <wtfmucker> possible?
[23:15] <k1l_> wtfmucker: we dont support wifi hacking in here. there is enough documentation out there if you are interessted and want to learn stuff about networking.
[23:16] <wtfmucker> its not hacking bro its my own network i like to monitor
[23:17] <k1l_> wtfmucker: we cant verify its your network. so if you want to learn it see the documentations.
[23:17] <fastputty> hello guys, igot some alia for my eth0, like eth0:0 and eth0:1..
[23:17] <fastputty> is there a way to use eth0:0 as primary?
[23:17] <fastputty> so all my request go out from this alias?
[23:18] <wtfmucker> well trough
[23:18] <wtfmucker> i like to learn more about ubuntu but i just a newbi
[23:19] <wtfmucker> so i aint getting no where lol
[23:19] <k1l_> wtfmucker: what do you need help with?
[23:19] <OerHeks> fastputty, maybe this page is any help http://www.yourownlinux.com/2013/09/how-to-create-alias-for-network.html
[23:19] <wtfmucker> k1l_: can i privite msg u
[23:20] <k1l_> wtfmucker: support in this channel only please
[23:20] <wtfmucker> ok
[23:20] <EriC^^> !manual | wtfmucker
[23:21] <wtfmucker> i tryed a few things like sslstrip but i dont know i need that
[23:21] <k1l_> wtfmucker: please stop asking about cracking passwords and stuff like this in here.
[23:22] <wtfmucker> line i sayd i just installes ubuntu to set a home monitor to sniff my home to see what kids and wife is up to
[23:22] <wtfmucker> ok bro
[23:22] <Xenos> has anyone found an easy way of managing ipod with this distro we have
[23:23] <k1l_> Xenos: best what i heard is running itunes in wine.
[23:23] <wtfmucker> i dont want to hack or crack anything ...
[23:25] <fastputty> how come the /etc/init.d/networking restart does not reload my ifconfig from /etc/network/interfaces??/
[23:25] <wtfmucker> ubottu: i know how to use a comp just not familar with vommand line and starting installed en setting them up
[23:25] <wtfmucker> lol
[23:26] <OerHeks> fastputty, i guess because networkmanager is handling interfaces, that tutorial is mainly used on a server
[23:27] <fastputty> i am under ubuntun server
[23:27] <fastputty> OerHeks: i am under ubuntu server
[23:29] <OerHeks> fastputty, then something is wrong, can you paste the file on paste.ubuntu.com ?
[23:29] <OerHeks> fastputty, and how did you restart networking?
[23:30] <delinquentme> linux vsualizations of the respective directories on my file system?
[23:33] <wtfmucker> k1l_: can u get me some info on how to laungh apps installed trough command line
[23:34] <k1l_> wtfmucker: that depends on the apps you installed and how you installed them. if you used "apt-get install" you should be starting them with their name in terminal
[23:34] <HowardTheDuck> hey, does Ubuntu natively handle Optimus graphics switching on laptops these days?  I haven't used it since 10.04 b/c the laptop I got at that time had this damn optimus card
[23:35] <wtfmucker> ow ueah i notest i dont like that
[23:36] <wtfmucker> what is the althernative
[23:36] <Bashing-om> HowardTheDuck: Check out " nvidia-prime " .
[23:36] <HowardTheDuck> what's that?
[23:36] <k1l_> HowardTheDuck: install the  nvidia driver from the ubuntu repo and it should install nvidia-prime. that lets you change the cards
[23:36] <HowardTheDuck> holy moly so I don't need to jack with Bumblebee anymore?
[23:37] <Bashing-om> HowardTheDuck: A means to deal with hybrid graphics -> apt-cache show nvidia-prime <- .
[23:37] <k1l_> HowardTheDuck: yep
[23:37] <HowardTheDuck> My brother wanted Ubuntu on his little laptop and i just spent too much time getting Win8 to boot from USB
[23:37] <HowardTheDuck> messing around w/ it now, haven't used Ubuntu in a long time heh
[23:44] <nicomachus> hey guys, I'm getting some graphics issues so I wanted to check a GPU monitor and see if I was maxing it out.
[23:45] <nicomachus> I used Nvidia-smi, and then got this: https://imgur.com/BeIyDXT
[23:45] <cromagi> HEconnect to wifi on my destop in which i just installed ubuntu?
[23:45] <cromagi> how do i*
[23:45] <cromagi> ave no ethernet
[23:45] <cromagi> I just wanna setup wireless connection
[23:46] <OerHeks> nicomachus, seems like that 8400 is not supported in smi
[23:46] <cromagi> Anyone?
[23:46] <nicomachus> ha, that would explain it...
[23:46] <nicomachus> shit. Any gpu monitors that are compatible?
[23:49] <OerHeks> nicomachus, no universal ones that i know of :(
[23:49] <nicomachus> bummer. this GPU is giving me a ridiculous amount of trouble.
[23:49] <cromagi> any1?
[23:49] <happyfr0gg> i have a question about virtualbox. I have a Windows 7 HP x86 iso file and am stuck on deciding on the virtual hard drive file type. Which ones do I choose?
[23:49] <wtfmucker> as the terminal is bizzy do i need to open multiply terminals to proceed??
[23:49] <nicomachus> on the verge of just replacing it.
[23:51] <irth> happyfr0gg: go with default one?
[23:53] <happyfr0gg> irth, Will VirtualBox recognize the iso file?
[23:54] <irth> yeah
[23:54] <irth> ypu need to select it and it will expose it to the vm as a real cd/dvd/whatever
[23:55] <irth> it should ask dor iso on first boot of vm
[23:57] <ceed^> Does anyone know whether we will be able to move windows controls to the right again, or is that option all gone?
[23:57] <k1l_> ceed^: on unity7 its gone. i dont know what its on unity8 on MIR.
[23:58] <ki7rw> all of a sudden i can't get an screen - even knoppix fails to bring up a screen - did my lappy monitor suddenly go bad?
[23:58] <ceed^> k1l_, And you do not think they will bring it back in Unity?
[23:59] <k1l_> ki7rw: well, that is possible. or you did hit the shortkey to disable the laptop monitor and enable the external video output only
[23:59] <korst3n> Hey.. i've tried adding some iptables prerouting rule... however I don't see it in iptables -L now and the ufw is enabled
[23:59] <korst3n> how do i make ufw reset iptables rules?


[18:56] <Corey> Forgive the (slightly offtopic) question, but what do Hebrew speakers generally tend to use for word processing on a Mac?  To my understanding Word for Windows doesn't do RTL properly.
[23:33] <avihay> GuySoft = www.guysoft.co.il ?
[23:34] <GuySoft> avihay, כן הוא נפל שוב?
[23:34] <GuySoft> avihay, חיי קיים ולא מעודכן :(
[23:35] <avihay> just asking, iPink refered me to an article there
[23:36] <avihay> btw, were you able to compile an open USB stack for PIC from linux?
[23:58] <GuySoft> avihay, no i moved to an AVR
[23:59] <GuySoft> avihay, their are dirt cheap so i just rather move.. also more documentation now
[23:59] <avihay> mkey, I'm makeing the move now, modchip's idea of linux support is to move to java
[23:59]  * GuySoft is moving to cyanogen mod 10 on samsung galaxy s 2


[01:01] <mmikowski> arraybolt3: Omar: https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/iqsk3y/anaconda_is_not_free_for_commercial_use_anymore/
[01:02] <mmikowski> It looks like Anaconda may be usable for commercial use, although this is 2 years old.  Hopefully this is  useful.
[01:04] <arraybolt3> Interesting. I may use it then!
[01:08] <arraybolt3> mmikowski: Thanks!
[03:28] <Dragnslcr> I have only seen people end up having major problems with Anaconda, so I always suggest against using it. Especially since it doesn't add anything that you can't already do with pip.
[03:57] <atom42> kde 4 the best
 "kde 4 the best" <- kde 3.5 the best
[08:57] <schote> kubuntu 22.10 bootet von usb, dann wird installierter kernel verlangt und dann bleibt system stehen.
[12:47] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:00] <iomari891> upgrade still not working :-(
[13:12] <BluesKaj> more detail required, what have you done so far?
[13:14] <fly_high> hello everyone. sorta new to Linux. very new to IRC
[13:15] <BluesKaj> welcome fly_high
[13:17] <fly_high> ty BluesKaj
[13:40] <iomari891> BluesKaj: been running "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop" since 22.10 was released. Still getting "Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading"
[13:40] <iomari891> I'm currently running 22.04
[13:42] <BluesKaj> iomari891, run those commands separately...try sudo do-release upgrade -d as your final command
[13:44] <iomari891> BluesKaj:  done that. same result
[13:45] <BluesKaj> iomari891, apt-get is no longer needed just use apt update etc
[13:45] <iomari891> did that also
[13:47] <iomari891> when 22.04 came out, it took me more tan 3 weeks to upgrade. Same problem back then. It just eventually worked after many weeks.
[13:47] <BluesKaj> ok , make sure that discover settings are not set to LTS only in update/upgrade settings
[13:50] <iomari891> I don't see were to set that in discover.
[13:52] <BluesKaj> iomari891, ok, install muon, it has more accesible options than discover
[13:53] <BluesKaj> discover is also a bit buggy, that's why I prefer muon mostly for referencing packages
 Heyy, i updated kubuntu , but still in on plasma 5.25.5
 But i did that for plasma 5.26 ,
 Coz i m facing problems on 5.25
 Mainly autohide feature of plasma panel 🙄
[13:55] <iomari891> I didn't even know I ad that. Im running it now.
[13:59] <iomari891> where does muon set update/upgrade?
[14:06] <BluesKaj> settings>configure software sources>updtaes tab>releases upgrade box> choose "normal releases"
[14:11] <iomari891> normal releases is already set
[14:19] <BluesKaj> ok, what does lsb_release -a , show
[14:27] <iomari891> No LSB modules are available.
[14:27] <iomari891> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[14:27] <iomari891> Description:    Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS
[14:27] <iomari891> Release:        22.04
[14:27] <iomari891> Codename:       jammyYes
[14:35] <BluesKaj> hmm, do you have any ppas in your /etc/apt/sources.list.d ? if so remove them or skip them by putting a # at the beginning of the deb line
[15:03] <user|21> Is kubuntu 22.04 LTS installable on a MT8183 arm64 chromebook (Lenovo ideapad 3) ??  thanks
[15:06] <BluesKaj> user|21,  yes, https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/jammy/daily-live/current/
[15:06] <genii> Looks like it might be a headache https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-T61-and-prior-T-series-plus-Other-Legacy-ThinkPads/Putting-Ubuntu-on-Ideapad-3/m-p/5127812
[15:36] <BluesKaj> iomari891, also you might want to change your repository sources location in muon...the UK source is highly recommended
[16:45] <user|93> Ah, nothing works.
[16:46] <user|93> Cannot upload a lot of text as a file.
[16:47] <user|93> Hello,
[16:47] <user|93> shortly after upgrading to Ubuntu 22.04, the size of my root partition (SSD hard drive) was no longer displayed correctly:
[16:47] <user|93> Dolphin --> right-click --> Properties (from "/"): size is not displayed. If you select "calculate", the size "128 TiB" is determined. But the SSD only has 215 GiB.
[16:47] <user|93> What can be the reason?
[16:47] <user|93> Change the size of the partition did not help...
[20:51] <blaze> is there a way to disable color hints in konsole?
[21:20] <mmikowski> blaze: color hints? I don't see any color hints.
[21:20] <mmikowski> Could to share a screenshot or elaborate? I'm curious, but don't know if I can help
[21:51] <blaze> mmikowski: https://i.imgur.com/sS6NQkM.png
[21:53] <Dragnslcr> blaze- do you mean the yellow color on the hostname ("blaze")?
[21:54] <blaze> what?
[21:54] <mmikowski> blaze: Yup, seeing it on hover.
[22:01] <Dragnslcr> Must be something new since 20.04
[22:01] <Dragnslcr> Settings -> Edit Current Profile -> Mouse -> Miscellaneous
[22:01] <mmikowski> Blaze: I had found it, but when recreating the pick, it went away
[22:01] <mmikowski> Right
[22:01] <Dragnslcr> Something like "Color filters"
[22:01] <mmikowski> Yes! there it is
[22:02] <mmikowski> Thanks Dragnslcr!
[22:03] <mmikowski> I was doing Settings > Profiles > Edit > Mouse > Misc and untick [ ] Allow color filters.
[22:04] <mmikowski> blaze: Dragnslcr: confirmed that works.
[22:27] <Crell> Hi folks.  Odd question.  The task/kicker bar at the bottom of my screen seems to have disappeared. I cannot find any setting somewhere for why it would have gone on strike, but after plugging my laptop into its dock, it's gone.  Rebooted multiple times as well, no dice.  I don't recall what it's formally called anymore (the name changed a few
[22:27] <Crell> times in the past), so I'm not even sure what to google.  Any tips?