[12:59] <edneymatias> hi all!
[12:59] <lionelp> Hi edneymatias
[07:01] <systest> Is any version of  the SPARC release of 6.06 available yet?
[07:04] <fabbione> systest: no, as the announce said, we are validating on the hw
[07:04] <fabbione> the hw arrived late, due to some custom issues
[07:04] <systest> saw that in the release notes.  Thought an alpha or such might be available.
[07:04] <systest> Thanks for the info.
[07:04] <fabbione> oh yeah
[07:04] <fabbione> sure
[07:04] <fabbione> alpha and beta are around
[07:05] <fabbione> hmm no
[07:05] <fabbione> images haven't been published
[07:05] <fabbione> you can use netboot/netinstal
[07:06] <systest> ok, didn't see them at the mirrors so thought I would ask.
[07:06] <fabbione> they are not on cdimage either
[07:06] <fabbione> i *think* it's because they need to be relased later.. i don't remember all the black magic
[07:07] <systest> OK, thanks.  I'll wait for the official release.
[07:07] <fabbione> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/installer-sparc/current/images/sparc64/netboot/2.6/
[07:07] <fabbione> netboot image ^^
[07:07] <fabbione> you can still test and report bugs
[07:07] <fabbione> that's always good
[07:08] <systest> Even better.  Rather try out a new release than go to another, pointless mtg.  Thanks.
[10:28] <Vaske_Car> Just installed LAMP and SSH. Where can I see directory structure and how to access apache directory to upload site?
[10:29] <Vaske_Car> For example if I try to access /etc directory i can not... no such file or directory
[10:32] <gpd> Vaske_Car: this is a development channel - but your DocumentRoot is set to /var/www
[10:32] <gpd> you won't be able to [and shouldn't be able to]  see /etc or any other part of the filesystem
[10:42] <Vaske_Car> gpd, just tell me what to do to be able to access server from FTP so i can continue..
[10:43] <Vaske_Car> Like when you purchase hosting and you can access your root directory with FTP
[10:44] <infinity> Vaske_Car: Please take these sort of questions to #ubuntu...
[10:45] <infinity> Vaske_Car: This is a development channel, and generally doesn't take kindly to providing tech support.
[10:45] <infinity> Vaske_Car: The short answer is "install an FTP daemon".  You don't have one by default.
[10:46] <Vaske_Car> Thanks! I am seeking for somebody who can answer me several question in 5 minutes rather than spend 10 days to find it online... Cya dream team :)
[10:47] <brmiller> so is this why ubuntu-server is oft quiet?  developers only?  #ubuntu is pretty noisy--with all them support questions!
[10:48] <infinity> brmiller: Yes, it's quiet intentionally, so that when we want to get some work done, we can. :)
[10:49] <infinity> The rest of the time, I'm happy to see the channel idle.  There's no law against quiet IRC channels.
[10:49] <brmiller> congratulations--that makes perfect sense--I am a developer too (only not for ubuntu!)
[10:50] <brmiller> it's too bad there is only one "help me" channel, although that is not your problem. :)
[10:50] <brmiller> keep up the good work
[10:58] <infinity> Vaske_Car: If I wasn't busy working and wanted to provide tech support, I'd be in #ubuntu, or responding to mailing list posts on ubuntu-users.
[11:31] <gpd> [a community supported ubuntu-server support channel might be useful]
[11:33] <infinity> Perhaps.  You're welcome to start one.
[11:34] <gpd> well my experience is that you are better off making the dev channel /more/ obscure and having the default be the support channel - however, that would require shuffling
[11:35] <gpd> I just started #ubuntu-server on oftc - i'll see how many ppl find it :O
[11:37] <infinity> I generally expect channels on freenode and oftc to have the same focus if they have the same name.
[11:38] <gpd> ubuntu-server-support ?
[11:38] <infinity> I'd be all for idling in #ubuntu-server-devel, but then I wouldn't be here (and a lot of other people wouldn't be), and I suspect folk would just come to the new channel to ask the same questions.  <shrug>
[11:39] <gpd> probably right - so are you happy if we [non-devs]  answer support questions in here...
[11:39] <infinity> We get so few support requests here, and most of them aren't really all that server-related anyway (OMG, I JUST INSTALLED THE SERVER CD AND I DON'T HAVE A GUI, HOW DO I GET A GUI?!), so I don't feel too bad sending them to #ubuntu.
[11:39] <gpd> true
[11:39] <infinity> And the few really clued-up users woh ask random questions in here often find that they get answered anyway, because INTRIGUING questions that make me go research the answers are kinda fun.
[11:43] <kermitX_> infinity: how's this one:  howto run mysql 5 & 4.1 on same box?
[11:43] <infinity> kermitX_: Don't.
[11:43] <infinity> kermitX_: If you think you need to, you're almost certainly wrong.
[11:44] <infinity> kermitX_: If you REALLY need to, then you've done enough research to know why, and therefore have also done enough research to know how.
[11:44] <kermitX_> infinity: i have a couple scripts requires 5 and a couple that requires 4.1; in production environment they're on different servers, but i am looking at my test server.
[11:45] <kermitX_> infinity, best to run a bare install in a virtual machine of some sort to get the 'other' version?
[11:45] <infinity> kermitX_: I've never seen anything that will run on 4.1 that won't run on 5.x.
[11:45] <infinity> kermitX_: Virtualisation may be a bit extreme, chroots would be fine.
[11:45] <infinity> kermitX_: Or, you can hack the 4.1 source to have it install to non-standard filesystem locations.
[11:46] <infinity> Either way, I'm still betting on the "you don't actually need both" scenario.
[11:49] <kermitX_> infinity, it may be that i don't "need" both -- those are just the versions supported by the companies who made the scripts.


 Once you done it a time or 2 .. piece of cake . Huh ?
[01:23] <daftykins> absolutely!
[01:23] <daftykins> now i'll have to wander the house to find things to fix ;)
[01:28] <Bashing-om> OH Boy .. look at the monster you have created .
[01:30] <daftykins> we can rebuild said monster, faster... stronger... better...
[01:32] <Bashing-om> Now .. just get it to serve the tea .
[01:33] <daftykins> mmm i should buy milk tomorrow and get back on the tea drinking
[01:33] <daftykins> #1 mission!
[01:34] <Bashing-om> See, I am good yet for something !
[01:35] <daftykins> :D
[01:35] <daftykins> cutting the grass, too :>
[01:37] <Bashing-om> Oh well ..some may think of cutting grass as good ..  It be a chore that has to be done .. else you get frowned upon .
[01:37] <daftykins> yep the wrath of mrs.bashing would result!
[01:38] <daftykins> i must put my head down for the night, g'night sir \o
[01:38] <Bashing-om> Nighty nite ..
[06:20] <ducasse> morning all
[11:24] <daftykins> hey ducasse \o
[11:24] <daftykins> what's new?
[12:04] <OerHeks> too small for me .. http://www.zdnet.com/article/worlds-largest-ssd-revealed-as-seagate-unveils-60tb-monster/
[12:06] <daftykins> :)
[12:06] <daftykins> gm BluesKaj o/
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:07] <BluesKaj> hi daftykins
[12:07] <daftykins> did you catch my soldering pics? i replaced those blown caps yesterday :D
[12:07] <OerHeks> hello daftykins BluesKaj
[12:08] <daftykins> sir \o
[12:09] <BluesKaj> hi OerHeks
[12:09] <BluesKaj> no daftykins, I didn't see your solder pics
[12:09] <daftykins> http://imgur.com/a/halRm \o/
[12:12] <BluesKaj> if you soldered all those pins , very impressive :-)
[12:13] <daftykins> hehe nah just the single capacitor in the closest corner to begin with
[12:14] <daftykins> then the 3 pairs of legs together in the center
[12:14] <BluesKaj> i see , looks good
[12:14] <daftykins> thanks :>
[12:14] <daftykins> and it didn't release the magic smoke on powering up!
[12:17] <BluesKaj> I haven't soldered much the last few yrs, just some loudspeaker connections and xover networks
[12:18] <daftykins> ooh
[12:22] <daftykins> i wish i could have made them look as good as the originals XD i figure that's machine done though?
[12:22] <daftykins> for the mass production on a motherboard
[13:23] <BluesKaj> hey pauljw_vm
[13:23] <pauljw_vm> mornin' BluesKaj :)
[13:23] <pauljw_vm> Hi everyone
[13:24] <daftykins> hi sir \o
[13:24] <pauljw_vm> o/
[14:18] <EriC^^> afternoon everyone
[14:18] <daftykins> hey sir \o how goes the explodey phone? :)
[14:18] <daftykins> (back in a few, quick post office trip)
[14:18] <EriC^^> hey daftykins :D
[14:18] <EriC^^> ok :)
[14:26] <pauljw_vm> hi EriC^^
[18:27] <EriC^^> hi pauljw_vm
[18:27] <pauljw_vm> :)
[18:27] <EriC^^> :)
[18:28] <pauljw_vm> how's everything?  phone hanging in there?
[18:28] <EriC^^> it's good
[18:28] <daftykins> :D
[18:28] <EriC^^> i bought another phone
[18:28] <EriC^^> samsung j1 ace
[18:28] <pauljw_vm> ah, good deal
[18:28] <EriC^^> $100
[18:29] <pauljw_vm> :)
[18:29] <EriC^^> :)
[18:30] <daftykins> blech non-playing clients, what a pain
[18:30] <daftykins> *paying
[18:30] <daftykins> wow what a bad typo
[18:49] <BluesKaj-pi> I paid only 100bucks CDN for an alcatel mini ...mainly use it as a phone, altho I have used it on the internet a few times thru wifi.. data usage is turned off, only for emergencies which I dont think will be necessary very often
[18:50] <BluesKaj-pi> pay as you go
[22:36] <OerHeks> great, LO snap 64 bit, http://www.libreoffice.org/download/snap/
[22:41] <Bashing-om> Some testing efforts to get libreoffice off the ground : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2327088&page=2 .
[22:46] <OerHeks> nice post, thanks!
[22:48] <Bashing-om> Snaps, the wave of the future .. but do I want to learn it now ? Now that is the question .
[22:53] <daftykins> mmm tough one
[22:57] <Bashing-om> I got on my learning plate - systemd - that will be more than enough to digest .
[22:58] <daftykins> mmm that's on mine too
[23:02] <Bashing-om> Fortunately ... we have a few years to digest systemd . I am in no big hurry .
[23:04] <daftykins> i had to restart a service the other day so did a quick google cheat :>
[23:04] <daftykins> i was running the old commands but nothing was reported, so i couldn't tell what was happening
[23:17] <Bashing-om> Yeah. going to have our trials determining the interfacing . systemd/upstart/ what in the world is the kernel doing now !
[23:40] <daftykins> :D


[00:17] <MythbuntuGuest08> ls
[00:17] <MythbuntuGuest08> lol
[00:17] <MythbuntuGuest08> hi all
[00:18] <MythbuntuGuest08> need advice for playback settings pls
[00:22] <MythbuntuGuest08> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d372119f7
[00:47] <MythbuntuGuest08> ?
[02:06] <MythbuntuGuest08> hi
[03:04] <MythbuntuGuest08> anyone listening ?
[03:07] <Asa_A> yes
[03:17] <MythbuntuGuest08> need advice for playback setting pls
[03:19] <MythbuntuGuest08> Asa_A: can u help pls
[03:22] <Asa_A> 'k, whats your question?
[03:22] <Asa_A> or problem
[03:22] <MythbuntuGuest08> the video play is freezing
[03:23] <MythbuntuGuest08> live tv or recorded ones
[03:23] <MythbuntuGuest08> if I open the saved .mpd in VLC .. its fine
[03:25] <Asa_A> is vlc still fine if you play in fullscreen?
[03:26] <MythbuntuGuest08> yes it is fine
[03:32] <Asa_A> does it just play for a few seconds then stop?
[03:33] <MythbuntuGuest08> which one u mean .. tv or the VLC
[03:33] <MythbuntuGuest08> tv does not play .. VLC plays fine ..
[03:34] <Asa_A> so mythtv doesn't even start the videos?
[03:37] <MythbuntuGuest08> it does just freezes ast first frame
[03:38] <MythbuntuGuest08> or max 2 -3 frames
[03:44] <Asa_A> I don't know what else to suggest. my guess would be that some of your hardware isn't fast enough, except that vlc plays fine
[03:50] <MythbuntuGuest08> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d372119f7
[03:50] <MythbuntuGuest08> logs r there
[03:50] <MythbuntuGuest08> can anything be made out of that ?
[03:51] <Asa_A> its an audio problem. Do you know what buffer underrun means?
[03:51] <MythbuntuGuest08> I am sorry I am a newbie
[03:51] <MythbuntuGuest08> I donno much
[03:52] <Asa_A> np, I don't know exactly whats causing it but I can try to explain whats happening.
[03:53] <MythbuntuGuest08> ok pls do
[03:55] <Asa_A> your sound card uses a buffer, its like a line at the bank. First person in line is the first person out. your sound card needs to have something in the buffer the whole time, but your sound card is processing faster than mythtv can fill the buffer. The underrun means that the line is empty, so your sound card has to stop and wait for mythtv to sends more audio.
[03:55] <MythbuntuGuest08> ok why is the video getting affected
[03:56] <Asa_A> its probably trying to sync the audio and video, so if the audio stops, the video stops too
[03:57] <MythbuntuGuest08> ok any idea what i CAN DO
[03:58] <Asa_A> check Utilities/Setup > Setup > TV Settings > Playback
[03:58] <Asa_A> do you have "Extra audio buffering" checked?
[03:58] <MythbuntuGuest08> lemme check
[04:00] <MythbuntuGuest08> yes it is checked
[04:02] <MythbuntuGuest08> i unchked it & still no use
[04:06] <Asa_A> check Utilities/Setup > Setup > TV Settings > Recording Profiles > Software Encoders > Live TV ... press Next until you get to the audio section. What is your sampling rate?
[04:07] <Asa_A> it might need to be 44100 or 48000. I don't completely understand the sampling rate but I know i've had to change it before
[04:08] <MythbuntuGuest08> bit rate 4500, maxbit rate 6000
[04:08] <MythbuntuGuest08> sampling rate 48000
[04:08] <MythbuntuGuest08> type layer II bit rate 384 kbps
[04:08] <Asa_A> I don't have a bitrate option on my screen
[04:09] <MythbuntuGuest08> I have a hardware encode donno if it makes a diff
[04:10] <Asa_A> I think it does, under Utilities/Setup > Setup > TV Settings > Recording Profiles what options do you have? I have "Software Encoders (v4l based)" and :Transcoders:
[04:11] <MythbuntuGuest08> MPEG-2 Encoders, Hardware DVB Encoders, Transcoders
[04:18] <Asa_A> i'm not sure what else to try right now.
[04:18] <MythbuntuGuest08> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m4a9696bf
[04:18] <MythbuntuGuest08> pls see that it has more details
[04:19] <Asa_A> "Falling back to X11 video output over a network socket." Are you running mythtv from a remote computer, or running it as a different user on the same computer?
[04:22] <MythbuntuGuest08> I am running in same computer
[04:22] <MythbuntuGuest08> whats the default user ?
[04:24] <Asa_A> I think if you're using mythbuntu, the default user is named mythtv. I was just wondering if you were just running mythfrontend or running something like "sudo -u mythtv mythfrontend"
[04:24] <MythbuntuGuest08> just running mythfrontend
[04:25] <Asa_A> I don't know why it would fall back to running the video over the network. I still think the primary problem is the audio though, but the video seemed odd
[04:27] <Asa_A> "AudioOutput Warning: Mixer attach error -2: No such file or directory Check Mixer Name in Setup: '/dev/mixer'" <- this looks like a potential problem too... i'm looking for where /dev/mixer comes from
[04:27] <MythbuntuGuest08> ok..
[04:29] <Asa_A> from a terminal run "ls -l /dev/mixer*"
[04:29] <Asa_A> I have /dev/mixer and /dev/mixer1
[04:30] <MythbuntuGuest08> i have /dev/mixer
[04:31] <Asa_A> crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 14,  0 2008-08-31 21:23 /dev/mixer <- does it look like this?
[04:32] <MythbuntuGuest08> yes
[04:33] <Asa_A> does the command "groups" show that you're in the audio group?
[04:34] <MythbuntuGuest08> yes
[04:39] <Asa_A> i'm out of ideas at the moment :(
[04:40] <MythbuntuGuest08> thx appreciate ur help
[05:06] <JDStone> isn't there some way to make MythTV transcode (is that the correct term?) recordings so they aren't so large in file size?
[05:10] <Asa_A> I think it kind of depends on what format you're recording in. transcoding is when it converts your file from one format to another or I think you can transcode to the same format to cut commercials (which doesn't save much)
[05:10] <Asa_A> Do you know what format you're currently using?
[05:12] <Asa_A> Utilities/Setup > Setup > TV Settings > Recording Profiles > ? (I've got "Software Encoders, but if you have a hardware encoder it'll be different) > Next > Next
[05:13] <JDStone> I'm not using the mythfrontend
[05:13] <JDStone> can I make these changes from mythweb?
[05:14] <Asa_A> I don't think so
[05:14] <JDStone> but don't the settings in mythfrontend only apply when using mythfrontend?
[05:15] <JDStone> that's where those settings are located
[05:15] <JDStone> the ones you noted above
[05:16] <Asa_A> yea, that logic makes sense, but they're in the frontend even though they control how the program is recorded.
[05:17] <Asa_A> do you not have a monitor connected to the backend or something?
[05:20] <planeracer> hi
[05:20] <Asa_A> hello
[05:21] <planeracer> someone can help me scanner?
[05:21] <planeracer> channel scanner
[05:22] <JDStone> Asa_A: yes, I do
[05:22] <JDStone> I just took a look at those settings
[05:22] <JDStone> I have the PVR 250
[05:24] <Asa_A> what codec does it say in mythfrontend? under live or default
[05:24] <JDStone> MPEG-2
[05:24] <JDStone> PVR x50, 500
[05:24] <JDStone> actually, let me check one more time
[05:25] <JDStone> Under Recording Profiles, I have:
[05:25] <JDStone> MPEG-2 Encoders (PVR-x50, PVR-500)
[05:25] <JDStone> Transcoders
[05:25] <JDStone> and
[05:26] <JDStone> (Create new profile group)
[05:26] <JDStone> If I go to: MPEG-2 Encoders (PVR-x50, PVR-500)
[05:26] <JDStone> the codec for default is MPEG-2 Hardware encoder
[05:26] <JDStone> and I no other choices
[05:26] <JDStone> with for Live
[05:26] <JDStone> also
[05:27] <Asa_A> you have a hardware encoder in your card, so are there any other options for codecs?
[05:28] <JDStone> nope, that's the only codec I can choose
[05:28] <JDStone> Is there a way to get more codecs?
[05:29] <Asa_A> I think you don't have other options because its a chip on your TV tuner that creates the file
[05:29] <Asa_A> you can transcode them into another format after they shows record though
[05:29] <JDStone> crap
[05:29] <JDStone> oh
[05:29] <JDStone> if I do that
[05:30] <JDStone> will it delete the original file and replace it with the transcoded one?
[05:30] <Asa_A> btw, doing that kind of defeats th point of having a hardware tuner
[05:30] <JDStone> how so?
[05:30] <Asa_A> I think theres a setting to determine that. I've come across it before but I don't remember exactly where it is or what the default is
[05:30] <JDStone> the files are too big
[05:30] <JDStone> which is why I want to transcode them
[05:31] <JDStone> I suppose I could lower the MPEG-2 Hardware encoder bitrate, huh?
[05:31] <Asa_A> I don't have a hardware tuner, so I get a raw stream and my computer has to encode them. it requires a much faster processor.
[05:31] <JDStone> ahh
[05:31] <Asa_A> are you running on a low-end system?
[05:32] <JDStone> no, it's a Athlon 64 X2
[05:32] <JDStone> 2800+ I believe
[05:32] <Asa_A> then its probably not a problem for you
[05:32] <JDStone> 1 GB ram
[05:32] <JDStone> yeah
[05:32] <Asa_A> you might consider adding more ram but it'll probably work as-is
[05:33] <JDStone> well, I just tried to transcode an already recorded show through mythweb and I receive "exit status 255, job status was 'Errored'"
[05:33] <JDStone> what does that mean ^?
[05:36] <Asa_A> I think it means that its trying to use the "mythtranscode" command, but it didn't work. I'm not sure how to find out what the exact command is so you can run it and see if theres any more output from it
[05:36] <JDStone> hmm, alright.  Thanks for your help Asa_A, i really appreciate it
[05:37] <Asa_A> *mythtranscode requires passing several parameters
[05:37] <JDStone> I'm going to mess around with it at some other time when I have time
[05:37] <Asa_A> 'k, good luck
[05:37] <JDStone> but shouldn't there be a default set of parameters for mythtranscode?
[05:38] <Asa_A> "mythtranscode --help" will show you want it accepts, when I run it without any parameters it says "Must specify -i OR -c AND -s options!"
[05:39] <JDStone> alright, thanks again
[05:39] <Asa_A> np
[05:49] <JDStone> Asa_A: alright, I'm looking at the log of the mythbackend and it says:
[05:49] <JDStone> Transcode: Using autodetect profile: MPEG2
[05:49] <JDStone> No Video Information found!
[05:49] <JDStone> Please ensure that recording profiles for the transcoder are set
[05:49] <JDStone> I thought I did that
[06:02] <Asa_A> JDStone: how much storage do your shows take? I think my shows tend to be about .75GB an hour
[06:03] <Asa_A> *using mpeg-4 encoding
[07:01] <JDStone> about a gig per hour
[07:01] <JDStone> I think I've figured out how to configure this thing
[07:01] <JDStone> i'm going to bed
[07:01] <JDStone> thanks Asa_A
[09:25] <MythbuntuGuest11> Hi, I just installed mythbuntu Im a total noob at linux sorry, my card is a compro dvt 300 it picks up the card but when I try to scan for channels it cant connect to the card. Any ideas? cheers
[20:22] <datadevil> hi
[20:22] <datadevil> I have problems changing channels using a mythbuntu backend server, and a laptop frontend running ubuntu with mythfrontend
[20:25] <tgm4883_laptop> !starters
[20:25] <Zinn> To get help we will need some info.  Please look at the log files located in /var/log/mythtv/  Also be sure to tell us of any error messages.  You may need to start the offending program from the command line in order to see what is going on.  Please pastebin these logs at http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com
[20:26] <tgm4883_laptop> datadevil, we are going to need your backend log
[20:26] <datadevil> tgm4883_laptop: added problem, tried to re-setup the channels etc, and now the frontend has this;
[20:26] <datadevil> The symptom of this is that regardless of what channel you select (using up, down, or typing in a number), the video source doesn’t actually change, but the OSD will. Re-run mythtv-setup as root and delete your cards/tuners. Then exit, and re-run mythtv-setup and add your tuner/card(s) as the mythtv user.
[20:26] <datadevil> eh sorry
[20:26] <datadevil> 2008-09-11 21:26:04.606 TV Error: StartRecorder() -- timed out waiting for recorder to start
[20:26] <datadevil> that
[20:27] <datadevil> also need backend logs for that?
[20:27] <tgm4883_laptop> datadevil, no, we need your whole /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[20:27] <tgm4883_laptop> it's for troubleshooting
[20:27] <datadevil> k
[20:27] <datadevil> sure
[20:29] <datadevil> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m27d0f65a
[20:29] <datadevil> problem seems worse then before; at least the output was working, now I screwed up something else it seems
[20:30] <tgm4883_laptop> is there a frontend on your backend machine?
[20:31] <tgm4883_laptop> datadevil, and what tuner do you have?
[20:31] <datadevil> tgm4883_laptop: yes, and i have a pvr150
[20:32] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[20:32] <tgm4883_laptop> datadevil, i'm assuming that you have issues using your frontend that is on your backend also?
[20:33] <datadevil> tgm4883_laptop: had other problems with that at first, the image wouldnt refresh, and as I want to use the one on the laptop only and that did work apart from channel changing I didn't test it now anymore
[20:33] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[20:34] <tgm4883_laptop> whats hooked up to the pvr-150?
[20:34] <tgm4883_laptop> a cable, or a cablebox?
[20:36] <datadevil> cable
[20:38] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, lets work on the backend first then
[20:38] <tgm4883_laptop> we'll get that working, then move to the frontend
[20:39] <tgm4883_laptop> datadevil, what do you use for a guide data provider?
[20:41] <datadevil> tgm4883_laptop: nothing
[20:41] <tgm4883_laptop> you didn't make a data source, or you made a data source with nothing?
[20:42] <datadevil> ehhh..checking
[20:43] <tgm4883_laptop> and what command are you using to get into mythtv-setup?  sudo mythtv-setup or just mythtv-setup?
[20:44] <datadevil> tgm4883_laptop: i'm using the ubuntu menu for it now
[20:44] <datadevil> but I also did use both versions on the command line
[20:45] <datadevil> i might be better off resetting everything to 0 I get the feeling
[20:45] <tgm4883_laptop> yea you don't want to use sudo to run mythtv-setup
[20:45] <tgm4883_laptop> we are going to need to resetup your tuners, as I feel thats probably one of the issues
[20:46] <tgm4883_laptop> go ahead back into mythtv-setup, and delete your tuners, your data source
[20:46] <datadevil> yeah, what I did as I found a page hinting to that was delete them using sudo mythtv-setup, and then run it without sudo
[20:47] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, let me know when those are deleted
[20:47] <tgm4883_laptop> then we can start re-adding them
[20:47] <datadevil> ok, so delete using sudo or doesnt that matter?
[20:48] <tgm4883_laptop> use sudo to delete them, because I think thats how you added them
[20:48] <tgm4883_laptop> but don't use sudo for that in the future
[20:48] <datadevil> yep
[20:50] <datadevil> tgm4883_laptop: originally I think I only ran it through the menu though, but doesn't hurt to try this
[20:50] <datadevil> k, done
[20:50] <datadevil> restarted the setup now
[20:50] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[20:51] <tgm4883_laptop> actually, we might have to delete the channels too
[20:51] <tgm4883_laptop> but you can do that from here too
[20:51] <datadevil> k
[20:51] <datadevil> I deleted everything under video sources already, should suffice?.
[20:52] <datadevil> no channels anymore it seems
[20:52] <tgm4883_laptop> datadevil, what about like in step 5 or 6
[20:52] <tgm4883_laptop> the should be channels in ther
[20:53] <tgm4883_laptop> although they might have been deleted when you deleted the source
[20:53] <datadevil> think so yeah
[20:53] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[20:53] <tgm4883_laptop> so lets go into step 1 and add the tuner
[20:53] <tgm4883_laptop> is this a single tuner system?
[20:53] <datadevil> yep
[20:53] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[20:54] <tgm4883_laptop> then add it as a PVR-XXX hardware encoder card
[20:54] <datadevil> it says analog v4l card
[20:54] <datadevil> in card type
[20:54] <tgm4883_laptop> change it
[20:54] <datadevil> and probed info is pvr150
[20:55] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[20:55] <tgm4883_laptop> you should be able to hit left or right and change the card type
[20:55] <datadevil> ok, that was the thing that probably did right the first time, and did wrong the second when attempting to fix the channel not changing problem
[20:56] <datadevil> changed it
[20:56] <datadevil> next?
[20:56] <tgm4883_laptop> yep, that would have been a major problem
[20:56] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, so now it's a PVR hardware encoder?
[20:56] <datadevil> that explains the problem in the backend log about the codecs i guess
[20:56] <datadevil> yeah
[20:56] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[20:57] <datadevil> k, I have to go make the baby boy a bottle, bb in 10, is that ok?
[20:58] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[21:02]  * tgm4883_laptop goes to grab some lunch
[21:02] <datadevil> back
[21:03] <tgm4883_laptop> bah
[21:03] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[21:03] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm going to give you some instructions, and then get some lunch
[21:03] <datadevil> ok, nice these timezones :-P
[21:03] <datadevil> nearly bed time for me :-P
[21:04] <tgm4883_laptop> step 2 is video sources, we need to add one that is for none
[21:05] <tgm4883_laptop> err, I guess thats step 3 on the menu
[21:05] <tgm4883_laptop> so step 4 is connecting that video source to your tuner card
[21:05] <tgm4883_laptop> I believe step 4 is also when you scan for channels
[21:06] <tgm4883_laptop> step 5 isn't needed here, and step 6 (storage groups) should already be done from your last setup
[21:07] <datadevil> ok, no grabber, and frequency europe-west for me
[21:07] <datadevil> scanning for channels now
[21:12] <datadevil> done with that now
[21:13] <datadevil> anything else?
[21:15] <tgm4883_laptop> nope, that will probably be goo
[21:15] <tgm4883_laptop> good
[21:15] <tgm4883_laptop> just exit that and fire up the frontend on your backend and see if it works
[21:17] <datadevil> yeah, shows tv again, but still no switching of channels; it says it switches in the overlay stuff but it doesn't
[21:18] <datadevil> so we're at least back to some partially working system
[21:23] <tgm4883_laptop> is this on the backend/frontend or the remote frontend?
[21:23] <datadevil> remote
[21:23] <tgm4883_laptop> I need you to pastebin your whole /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log file again
[21:23] <tgm4883_laptop> so we can see what changed
[21:25] <datadevil> k
[21:26] <datadevil> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m3ffe61a , pasted from a certain point I thought was interesting
[21:31] <datadevil> tgm4883_laptop: anything interesting inthere?
[21:35] <tgm4883_laptop> can you pastebin the whole thing?
[21:36] <tgm4883_laptop> or at the very least, like the last 50 lines
[21:38] <datadevil> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m4c17ced1
[21:38] <datadevil> better I guess
[21:39] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[21:39] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, lets try this
[21:39] <tgm4883_laptop> first
[21:40] <tgm4883_laptop> I'd like to clean out that log, then startup live tv, then try changeing the channel
[21:40] <tgm4883_laptop> then pastebin that log again
[21:41] <datadevil> ok
[21:42] <datadevil> so stop the server I guess, how?
[21:42] <datadevil> sudo /etc/init.d/mythbackend-stop ?
[21:44] <tgm4883_laptop> no need to stop the server, unless you really want
[21:44] <datadevil> k
[21:44] <datadevil> did stop it, echo'd "" to log, restarted
[21:44] <datadevil> now starting frontend
[21:44] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[21:44] <tgm4883_laptop> be sure to pastebin the whole thing again
[21:45] <datadevil> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m66a518a7
[21:45] <datadevil> complete
[21:49] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[21:50] <tgm4883_laptop> nothing jumping out at me
[21:50] <tgm4883_laptop> you have an audio issue, but I doubt thats related
[21:50] <datadevil> yeah, dont think so either
[21:50] <datadevil> mmppff...
[21:50] <datadevil> sucks
[21:52] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[21:52] <tgm4883_laptop> what are your channels numbered?
[21:52] <tgm4883_laptop> like 2,3,4,5?
[21:53] <tgm4883_laptop> or like 1001, 1002
[21:53] <tgm4883_laptop> etc
[21:53] <datadevil> in the frontend they are unknown25, unknown26 etc
[21:54] <datadevil> I think the 25 and 26 are the frequencies
[21:54] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[21:54] <tgm4883_laptop> I think somewhere here lies the problem
[21:54] <tgm4883_laptop> from your log
[21:54] <tgm4883_laptop> 2008-09-11 22:16:18.397 Finished recording Unknown: channel 1022
[21:55] <datadevil> according to mythweb its E22, E25, E26,  and then 22, 26,,28,29 etc.. in the column channum
[21:55] <datadevil> mmm
[21:55] <datadevil> so how to fix0r
[21:59] <tgm4883_laptop> datadevil, there isn't an external channel changer that you set is there?
[22:00] <datadevil> tgm4883_laptop: I did play around with itvt-tune at some point
[22:00] <datadevil> tgm4883_laptop: to try and fix this, and maybe also a while back
[22:00] <tgm4883_laptop> but did you set an external channel change script in mythtv-setup
[22:05] <datadevil> no
[22:05] <tgm4883_laptop> k
[22:10] <datadevil> tgm4883_laptop: thanks so far, have to go to bed
[22:10] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[22:11] <datadevil> no last minute insights?
[22:11] <tgm4883_laptop> sorry not a one
[22:11] <tgm4883_laptop> i'll think about it though
[22:11] <datadevil> thanks for your help though
[23:47] <TazgodX> been a while since ive been in here, working a lot and buying new equiptment
[23:47] <TazgodX> so back to a question i never really got an answer to 4+ months ago. how does Mythbuntu play with AT&T's U-Verse?


[08:11] <darkmatter> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygenated?content=60734 :P
[03:56] <coz_> troy_s, are you available
[03:57] <coz_> anyone else here responsible for the memberships??/
[05:52] <nothlit> coz_: troy is away for a week or two still iirc
[05:53] <coz_> nothlit, ah i see   then who else would be involved in the memerships     do you kow?
[05:53] <nothlit> i don't think anybody else has admin on the group
[05:53] <nothlit> ask #launchpad?
[05:54] <coz_> nothlit, well my membership is about to expire and need someone to change that
[05:54] <coz_> nothlit, yeah I will try at some point thanks :)
[05:56] <nothlit> coz_: Registered by:   Daniel Holbach
[05:57] <coz_> ok
[05:59] <nothlit> the team itself is open, so i suppose it it expires you can just rejoin
[05:59] <coz_> sounds good to me :)


[21:23] <ezzieyguywuf> I am trying to upload a package to a ppa, however I get a rejection email that says the following: " Could not find a PPA owned by 'ezzieyguywuf' for 'ubuntu' named 'OccWrapper'."
[21:23] <ezzieyguywuf> but I have a ppa named such, here: https://launchpad.net/~ezzieyguywuf/+archive/ubuntu/occwrapper
[21:27] <hloeung> ezzieyguywuf: maybe all lowercase? so 'dput ppa:ezzieyguywuf/occwrapper <your.changes>'
[22:48] <ezzieyguywuf> hloeung: I've tried this
[22:48] <ezzieyguywuf> hloeung: thank you for the suggestion though
[22:48] <hloeung> ah, ok
[22:48] <ezzieyguywuf> whenever I tried all lower, it said it had already been uploaded
[22:49] <ezzieyguywuf> "Package has already been uploaded to ppa on ppa.launchpad.net"
[22:49] <hloeung> right, so that's not the same as the error above
[22:49] <ezzieyguywuf> correct
[22:49] <hloeung> I thin kyour versioning conflicts with that's already in Ubuntu
[22:49] <ezzieyguywuf> well, this "already uploaded" error is from dput
[22:49] <hloeung> you'll need to 'dch -i' and bump the version or something
[22:49] <ezzieyguywuf> the earlier error is from launchpad, via email
[22:49] <ezzieyguywuf> hloeung: can you elaborate? I'm stil lpretty new to these tings
[22:50] <hloeung> yes, but they're both different errors. One says PPA not found, the other is that PPA exists, just package version the same
[22:50] <ezzieyguywuf> hloeung: you're right
[22:50] <hloeung> you can't upload to PPAs the same version of a package as in Ubuntu, unless you configure oyur PPA to not inherit Ubuntu base packages
[22:50] <hloeung> https://launchpad.net/~ezzieyguywuf/+archive/ubuntu/occwrapper/+edit-dependencies
[22:50] <hloeung> oh, looks like you can't even do that
[22:50] <ezzieyguywuf> hloeung: you know, I get that, however per the email, my original upload was rejected - so why would I need to bump the version to push a "new" one?
[22:51] <hloeung> anyways, you'll need to bump your package version. Maybe google up 'dch -i' or similar
[22:51] <hloeung> ... because the PPA inherits packages and versions from the base Ubuntu repo
[22:52] <hloeung> if not, you and everyone with PPAs will have fun uploading bunch of dependencies
[22:54] <ezzieyguywuf> hm
[22:54] <ezzieyguywuf> I'm confused
[22:54] <ezzieyguywuf> but I'll try the version bump
[23:01] <ezzieyguywuf> hloeung: ooh. different error (via email from launchpad): " Unable to find occwrapper_0.1.4.orig.tar.gz in upload or distribution."
[23:01] <ezzieyguywuf> that's promising
[23:06] <wgrant> ezzieyguywuf: ("Package has already been uploaded" is a local error; you can override it with dput -f)
[23:06] <wgrant> ezzieyguywuf: For the "Unable to find" error, make sure you're building with debuild -S -sa rather than just debuild -S
[23:07] <ezzieyguywuf> wgrant: wah! that's a great tip
[23:07] <ezzieyguywuf> wgrant: found "-sa" online too, thanks for the tip
[23:08] <ezzieyguywuf> so now I'm on my version 3 due to not knowing the "-f" tip earlier. assuming this one goes through: is it possible to revert back to version 1?
[23:08] <ezzieyguywuf> or should I just leave it?
[23:08] <wgrant> ezzieyguywuf: If none of them were accepted, you can remove those extra entries from the changelog.
[23:08] <wgrant> It's only once the package is accepted that you can't reuse the version number
[23:09] <ezzieyguywuf> looks like version 3 was finally accepted
[23:09] <ezzieyguywuf> I'd like to rename it to version 1 though
[23:09] <wgrant> It's too late for that, and doesn't matter.
[23:09] <ezzieyguywuf> fair enough
[23:10] <ezzieyguywuf> while I go you: am I to understand that if I set up my debian/watch file correctly, any new tags posted will automatically be transfered over to the ppa without me having to manually upload anything with dput?
[23:11] <wgrant> No.
[23:11] <wgrant> debian/watch is just used by the "uscan" tool. There's nothing automatic about it.
[23:12] <wgrant> You may be able to use a source package recipe to have it happen automatically, though: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/SourceBuilds/Recipes
[23:12] <ezzieyguywuf> wgrant: ah. I'll take a look at these recipes thanks. First though I suppose I should fix whatever is causing the build in ppa to complete
[23:12] <ezzieyguywuf> thank you for your help!
[23:20] <wgrant> np


[00:08] <KombuchaKip> Does anyone know how to get a PPA recipe to post on the upstream github repository on a failed build? Right now Travis can do this via the webhook integration somehow.
[08:39] <cjwatson> KombuchaKip: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1836010 - no schedule for adding that at the moment, but we can provide mentoring if you want to try to add it
[10:24] <RikMills> problem with x86 builders? or maintenance?
[11:58] <Fat-Zer> hi, are there any links to source code on launchpad translations?
[13:31] <Fat-Zer> neverbind... I saw the line bellow the translation...
[22:57] <Ant_222> Hello, all. Can you help me configure git for Launchpad? I have created a key pair, registered the public key, put the private one at the default location, yet `git' keeps saying: "Host key verification failed."  Do I need to configure anything else?
[23:26] <Ant_222> OK, I made it. Had to add git.launchpad.net to the known_hosts file.


[02:17] <jsonperl> Trying to configure sysstat to collect Power Management statistics, I've installed/configured lm-sensors and it's working. Also configured 'sadc -S POWER'
[02:17] <jsonperl> still no love for sar -m TEMP "Requested activities not available in file /var/log/sysstat/sa30"
[02:18] <jsonperl> I feel like I'm missing a step
[02:20] <grendal_prime> anybody using kvm on 14.04?
[03:02] <grendal_prime> ya cent i believe is based on ubuntu..oh wait no its based on redhat right?
[03:43] <gdi2k_> I'm trying to increase the size of a file system on a virtual machine (KVM). I have increased the image file size on the host, and in the guest, parted shows the new size of the drive correctly. However, using resize2fs gives the error that the file system is already as big as the device - it is not seeing the new device size. resizing from within parted isn't an option as it doesn't support ext4. any ideas?
[03:46] <PryMar56> gdi2k_, you can delete the partition and redefine it.. I've done it, but its scary
[03:46] <gdi2k_> PryMar56, yeh just reading about that - sounds hairy! did it go ok?
[03:46] <PryMar56> yes, it worked
[03:47] <PryMar56> gdi2k_, before you start, note the first sector
[03:47] <gdi2k_> PryMar56, yes, it's straightforward in this case (1)
[03:47] <PryMar56> oh, consider using `fdisk -lu`
[03:50] <gdi2k_> PryMar56, hmm, so I delete the partition, create new, and it wants to start my partition at sector 3. If I force sector 1 it says out of range. bummer
[03:50] <PryMar56> scroll back in your console to see what the first sector was
[03:50] <gdi2k_> definitely sector 1
[03:51] <gdi2k_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8193538/
[03:51] <PryMar56> if you have another image file create the same way, do fdisk -lu
[03:52] <gdi2k_> I didn't write changes, so it's all still good. will paste output to fdisk -lu
[03:52] <PryMar56> yeah, use sectors
[03:52] <gdi2k_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8193548/
[03:53] <gdi2k_> ah, 63 there
[03:53] <gdi2k_> what is that? not sector?
[03:53] <PryMar56> gdi2k_, you have more detailed control with -u
[03:53] <PryMar56> sectors
[03:54] <gdi2k_> it's about the units. If I turn off Dos compatability mode and switch units with u, I get 63
[03:54] <gdi2k_> so that's my starting point...
[03:54] <PryMar56> that is the right way to do it
[03:54] <gdi2k_> 63 is out of range too
[03:54] <PryMar56> gdi2k_, the starting point is the most crucial thing
[03:54] <gdi2k_> it suggest 2048
[03:55] <PryMar56> its an image file?
[03:56] <gdi2k_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8193574/
[03:56] <gdi2k_> yes, for a virtual machine
[03:58] <PryMar56> gdi2k_, something strange about that version of fdisk.. you can exit without changes and try gparted?
[03:59] <gdi2k_> found this: http://confluence.wartungsfenster.de/display/Adminspace/fdisk+Force+sector+63+boundary
[03:59] <gdi2k_> it has no GUI, so no gparted but I have tried with parted - it won't allow the resize due to lack of ext4 support
[03:59] <gdi2k_> (it wants to resize the file system as well as the parition)
[04:01] <PryMar56> gdi2k_, did you say if resize is bigger or smaller?
[04:01] <PryMar56> must be bigger
[04:01] <gdi2k_> bigger
[04:01] <gdi2k_> expand
[04:02] <gdi2k_> PryMar56, it was 50G, need it to be 200G
[04:02] <PryMar56> gdi2k_, things were simpler in the old days
[04:02] <PryMar56> forcing a starting sector of 2048 is harsh
[04:03] <gdi2k_> PryMar56, that URL gives a command to force access to sector 63, but the command does not work: "fdisk -c=dos -u=cylinders /dev/vdb"
[04:04] <PryMar56> I would setup LVM and rsync the image file over
[04:05] <PryMar56> get it working before you retire the image file
[04:08] <gdi2k_> I may end just creating a fresh larger image file and copying all the files and changing all the mount points... will play with this first though - there must be a way!
[04:12] <gdi2k_> PryMar56, wow, parted just goes ahead and writes changes. now I'm in a muddle...
[04:17] <gdi2k_> PryMar56, ok with parted, I was able to specify starting point as 63s (sector 63) - it complained about the drive not being optimally aligned, which I ignored. I ran fsck which corrected some issue, then I ran resize2fs on it and it went smoothly. Mounted it, and all data is there :) thanks for your help!
[04:17] <PryMar56> gdi2k_, good to hear
[04:18] <PryMar56> what is the ubuntu version?
[04:19] <gdi2k_> PryMar56, it's actually on a PBX system running on CentOS (which I find hard), but that's what it comes with. would much prefer it to be running Ubuntu like the rest of our servers
[04:41] <blackyboy> Openldap problem, from client machine while i switch the user as su - babin it say user dose not exists any one there to help me ?
[13:48] <zoski> hi, i'm in trouble with my server. I was running ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS and decided to upgrade to the latest LTS. I launched it via SSH and byobu. During the install I needed to switch off my computer so I detached the terminal and left the release running. Later I relog on my server and byobu didn't load, I try to rattached the terminal via screen, the upgrade has failed and my system was in read only.
[13:49] <zoski> So I need help to continu the upgrade and save my server life. Thanks you.
[13:53] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[13:54] <zoski> hi
[13:54] <lordievader> Hey zoski, how are you?
[13:56] <zoski> yes I'm lordievader
[13:56] <zoski> I feel lost lordievader
[13:56] <lordievader> zoski: Do you know why your server went into read-only mode?
[13:57] <zoski> I think it's because the upgrade failed
[13:58] <lordievader> zoski: http://askubuntu.com/questions/105793/why-has-my-file-system-turned-read-only-after-updates
[14:00] <zoski> I'm checking this lordievader thanks for the link
[14:05] <zoski> I used "dmesg | less" lordievader I get some messages I don't uderstand... I did a pastbin : http://pastebin.com/84FysAmT
[14:06] <lordievader> zoski: IO errors, thats why it went into read-only mode. Do you have a backup?
[14:07] <zoski> lordievader: yes only of the important files
[14:07] <lordievader> zoski: Ok, do you have SMART enabled on that disk?
[14:08] <zoski> lordievader: yes, I enabled some smart alert last year
[14:08] <zoski> lordievader: the server was supposed to email me if something went wrong
[14:09] <lordievader> zoski: Read [1], run a long test and see if your disk needs to be replaced. [1] http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/using-smartctl-to-get-smart-status-information-on-your-hard-drives/
[14:10] <zoski> okay thank you lordievader
[14:10] <lordievader> zoski: No problem ;)
[14:13] <zoski> lordievader: I can't launch the long test smartctl did work I get an I/O error
[14:14] <zoski> sorry didn't work sorry
[14:15] <lordievader> zoski: Turn off the server, grab the drive. Pop it into another machine and run it from there.
[14:16] <zoski> lordievader: Okay, I'm not near the server right now I will try if someone can open me the room where the server is
[14:22] <YamakasY> what's best actually to install software ? /usr/share or /usr/local/share ?
[14:23] <zoski> lordievader: I'll going to check the server in about half an hour. Someone there may help me
[14:23] <lordievader> YamakasY: Software that I manually install allways goes to /opt. But it is best to use apt for installing software.
[14:24] <YamakasY> lordievader: yeah I know, but I need to install some own packages and I see that /opt is kinda 1995 :P
[14:24] <lordievader> YamakasY: Works for me. Keeps it away from the rest of the system, and gives a nice overview.
[14:25] <YamakasY> lordievader: true!
[14:25] <YamakasY> lordievader: I love you
[14:25] <YamakasY> damn I keep doing that :P
[14:26] <zoski> lordievader: thank you a lot for your time, I'm leaving
[14:27] <lordievader> YamakasY: Heh, that's the first time someone said that to me on IRC :P
[14:27] <YamakasY> lordievader: I adore you!
[14:27] <lordievader> zoski: No problem, good luck ;)
[14:27] <YamakasY> someone said that ?
[14:27] <zoski> lordievader: thank you
[14:27] <lordievader> YamakasY: Who doesn't, I'm great :D
[14:27] <lordievader> Just kidding ;)
[14:46] <YamakasY> lordievader: hehe, indeed, you need to love yourself every day!
[14:46] <YamakasY> lordievader: I do twice ;)
[14:46] <lordievader> ;)
[14:47] <YamakasY> man I hate cybersquatters
[15:16] <xr600> Does iptables check for connecting host ? - Anyone knows ?
[15:23] <xr600> Having a weird problem with one of me Ubuntu servers. It is seemingly refusing connections from certain hosts...
[15:26] <Sierra> xr600: Did you check your firewall on the server, and any firewalls that may be on the network?
[15:53] <Lcawte> xr600: You can do iptable rules that only allow connections from certain places, yes.
[16:11] <zoski> lordievader: story update. I'm back home with my server. His hard drive is dead
[16:13] <zoski> lordievader: The full story is : I get there to clean it and reboot it early today. Then I saw I could update to 14.04 so I did. During the install the hard drive didn't manage the load and decide to leave us.
[16:15] <zoski> lordievader: right now the server didn't even manage to boot. I will backup what I can with a bootable usb key. Thank you for your help
[16:23] <RoyK> zoski: check smart status for the drive. smartctl -H (or even, smartctl -x) /dev/sd(something)
[16:25] <zoski> RoyK: I cannot managed to launch smartctl early when I was connected to the server. I know my hard drive is dead. I was just updating lordievader on my situation 'cause he helped me. Thank you
[16:27] <RoyK> zoski: I was thinking if you were to boot that thing up on a usb key, just run smartctl to verify the harddrive's dead, and that it's not just the filesystem that went nuts
[16:28] <RoyK> zoski: also, keep in mind to install smartd (part of smartmontools iirc) after reinstalling - it may warn you if the drive is dying
[16:29] <RoyK> zoski: it *may* warn you, not all disk failures are detectable before they happen
[16:33] <zoski> Thank you RoyK for the advice but I had smartd installed and it didn't warn me at all. I think cold hard drive + upgrade was to hard. I will try smartctl while backing up what I can with the usb key, it's a good idea
[16:34] <zoski> But it's not for today, I need to pack my stuff, I'm going back to my school city tomorow morning.
[16:35] <zoski> Sorry for my english, by the way ;-)
[16:41] <RoyK> zoski: no worries <(
[16:41] <RoyK> :)
[16:42] <zoski> ^_^
[17:50] <xr600> Sierra: There is no firewall, but when I'm on the same subnet as the server, I can reach it... When I go on the outside of the gateway, I can't...
[17:50] <xr600> (... ANd sorry for the delay, had to shop & cook here...)
[17:51] <xr600> Lcawte: Any special switch I need to list it ?
[21:44] <TheFearow> Hi all - I'm trying to troubleshoot an annoying issue I've got with a relatively new server I have running 14.04 in AWS EC2. It's working fine except after some period from boot (30 mins - 2 hours) I can't get any incoming traffic to it - no SSH or web. Oddly, occasionally it's allowed some traffic (I could SSH from a neighbouring host) but not public, but then eventually all has failed. I presume some sort of firewall but I don't know Ubuntu
[21:44] <TheFearow>  enough to troubleshoot further. I'm sort of lost as to where to troubleshoot so any pointers are much appreciated
[22:51] <pmatulis> TheFearow: possible DoS or intrusion.  is the server reasonably secure (who can log in and how)?