[16:34] <tonsofpcs> Physicist: you don't have Direct3D.
[16:35] <invariant> Even then, I am sure someone who is not part of the regular might help someone who has a problem.
[16:35] <alami> why i can't found irssi-plugin-silc
[16:35] <nightwalkerkg> Hi i have just installed ubuntu res. extras and when i open a video on youtube there is justa black screen where the video should be.
[16:35] <invariant> escott, upstream udev?
[16:35] <invariant> escott, I would consider it a huge design failure.
[16:36] <cfhowlett> nightwalkerkg, see what happens with a vimeo.com video ...
[16:36] <Physicist> tonsofpcs, Now I see.. Direct 3D...  sure! I don't have it.... How revert that?
[16:36] <invariant> escott, there is no reason to impose such a restriction.
[16:36] <nightwalkerkg> Just a sec.
[16:36] <invariant> escott, in fact, if I want to put the rootfs on NFS, that should be possible.
[16:36] <tonsofpcs> Physicist: set it back to opengl?
[16:37] <nightwalkerkg> cfhowlett, well on vimeo there is just an image of that video and i can't do anything else.
[16:37] <nightwalkerkg> The right click isn't working on the video,but it's working on the page.
[16:37] <Physicist> tonsofpcs, Only possible change opening the game.. And the game does not open.
[16:37] <cfhowlett> nightwalkerkg, i'm thinking flash issues ... what browser are you in??
[16:37] <nightwalkerkg> Firefox.
[16:38] <alami> why i can't found irssi-plugin-silc on ubuntu 12.10
[16:38] <escott> invariant, i have zero interest in arguing design decisions with you. im saying that if i suggest to someone they put /usr on a different disk im also going to warn them that it may break because the lead developers of core software don't consider that to be a valid configuration
[16:38] <tonsofpcs> Physicist: search the steam forums for an answer, I guess
[16:38] <nightwalkerkg> Also,something is chewing my CPU,it's more then 60% all the time.
[16:38] <nightwalkerkg> And i don't have anything opened.
[16:38] <cfhowlett> nightwalkerkg, try youtube.com/html5 to see if that format works
[16:38] <Physicist> tonsofpcs, Thank you!
[16:39] <Physicist> cfhowlett, Thank you!
[16:39] <cfhowlett> Physicist, best of luck
[16:39] <invariant> escott, I am pretty sure those developers can go and prepare to be forked then, because users don't want that.
[16:39] <ioria> nightwalkerkg: do you use flash 10 or 11 ?
[16:39] <invariant> escott, and you still haven't provided any proof, btw.
[16:39] <invariant> escott, no link to a mailinglist or manual or standard. Nothing.
[16:40] <invariant> escott, I also have no interest in arguing with you, because apparently you don't understand the rules of a discussion.
[16:40] <invariant> escott, you are supposed to present proof or don't say anything at all.
[16:41] <invariant> All I have seen now is scare-mongering.
[16:41] <nightwalkerkg> ioria, well according to Firefox it's Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
[16:41] <escott> invariant, then please dont
[16:41]  * cfhowlett ... if we can get back to actual support please???
[16:41] <invariant> escott, I believe I said that it was you that shouldn't say anything at all.
[16:42] <ioria> nightwalkerkg: youtube, vimeo, google video, not working at all ? and no messages from firefox ?
[16:42] <invariant> cfhowlett, this is part of actual support.
[16:42] <larry_> hi all
[16:42] <invariant> cfhowlett, it's just beyond the level of comprehension of escott.
[16:42] <nightwalkerkg> ioria, correct.
[16:42] <cfhowlett> larry_, greetings
[16:42] <larry_> does anyone know what hdmi output video cards work with 12.04 ?
[16:42] <nightwalkerkg> There is just a black image where the video should be.
[16:42] <larry_> hi cfhowlett
[16:42] <xangua> nightwalkerkg: did you install any other flash plugin¿ gnash for example
[16:43] <alami> any one can tell one why i can't find irssi silc client package
[16:43] <nightwalkerkg> xangua, no,this is a fresh install i just installed ubuntu res. extras from the USC.
[16:43] <cfhowlett> nightwalkerkg, on the html5 youtube?  also, after installing restricted extras you might wish to reboot...
[16:43] <ioria> nightwalkerkg: i had a issue like that... i installed flash 10 (you have to download from the site)
[16:43] <nightwalkerkg> cfhowlett, i will reboot now and try.
[16:43] <cfhowlett> nightwalkerkg, but before that maybe run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:43] <nightwalkerkg> ioria, from adobe or any other ?
[16:44] <ioria> nightwalkerkg: from adobe
[16:44] <nightwalkerkg> Ok,i will try that all.
[16:45] <rushiagr> hey people
[16:45] <cfhowlett> rushiagr, greetings
[16:46] <picca> hi rushiagr
[16:46] <rushiagr> :)
[16:47] <rushiagr> hows your day cfhowlett, picca?
[16:47] <larry_> rry, had toleave
[16:47] <cfhowlett> rushiagr, good.  what's your ubuntu issue this fine day?
[16:47] <larry_> I ould like to have an HDMI card to output to a tv
[16:47] <rushiagr> just logged in after a long long time to this channel
[16:47] <picca> tired and work tomorrow rushiagr
[16:48] <rushiagr> picca: hmm yeah, same hear too
[16:48] <larry_> which cards work ith 12.04
[16:48] <rushiagr> cfhowlett: no issues :)
[16:48] <smee> does ubuntu call subwoofer "rear center" speaker?
[16:48] <tonsofpcs> no
[16:48] <tonsofpcs> subwoofer is LFE.
[16:48] <Halite> How can I tell if I have 32-bit or 64-bit Ubuntu
[16:48] <tonsofpcs> rear center is rear center if such a speaker exists
[16:49] <cfhowlett> !hardware|larry_,
[16:49] <tonsofpcs> (some 4 speaker setups are FL/C/FR/RC)
[16:49] <llutz> Halite: uname -m
[16:49] <larry_> thanks ubottu
[16:49] <smee> Thats what I thought. speaker-test is set to 6 channels but i hear voice rear center instead of subwoofer
[16:49] <BluesKaj> smee, subwoofer is probly called LFE
[16:49] <jhutchins_wk> larry_: The only way we know is if someone tries a card and reports it.
[16:49] <Halite> what does x86_64 mean
[16:49] <llutz> Halite: 64bit
[16:50] <Halite> llutz: Wait a minute, I thought I had 32-bit Ubuntu
[16:51] <jhutchins_wk> Halite: Do you have /usr/lib64?
[16:51] <llutz> Halite: then it would be "i686"
[16:53] <smee> alsamixer gives me lfe but speaker test voice is rear center. Is this a bug in speaker-test?
[16:54] <spyros> yo
[16:54] <cfhowlett> spyros, greetings
[16:54] <spyros> where can i discuss problem with my audio ?:P
[16:55] <cfhowlett> spyros, here.  ask.
[16:56] <spyros> i got ubuntu 12.04.i cant use skype(for calls ) while i am listening to music(youtube or audaciosu)
[16:56] <cfhowlett> spyros, that would be normal behavior ...
[16:57] <cfhowlett> spyros, do one or do the other, you sound server is dedicated to the selected app
[16:57] <BluesKaj> smee, does front center work properly , if so then the speaker test isn't set for rear center
[16:57] <escott> spyros, you wouldnt want to anyways. skype's echo cancelation is junk
[16:58] <spyros>  im pretty sure i could on 11.10 :/ :/
[17:00] <larry_> nope spyros , cant have more than one audio stream at a time
[17:00] <escott> spyros, if its not working at all make sure you have pulseaudio installed and are using the pulse device for input/output in skye and not the real device
[17:00] <smee> bluesKaj: the front center appears to work just it is through the rear right!
[17:00] <Malsasa> Hello, any fresh subjective review for Libreoffice 4? :)
[17:01] <BEC> Monitor help: I'm connecting to a Viewsonic VG700 (19" i guess) & a 32" LG TV (CS41 series). I cannot use them except in "Mirror displays" mode. If I disable this mode I get the following: http://i.imgur.com/D5OWb98.png (when I press close I get: http://i.imgur.com/I1s6eNi.png)
[17:01] <BluesKaj> smee, check your connections at the sound card
[17:02] <BEC> any help?
[17:02] <adamk> BEC: You'll need to create an xorg.conf file with a Screen section and specify the maximum Virtual size you might use.
[17:03] <BEC> adamk, is there a guide on doing this? (locate already found one!)
[17:03] <adamk> You'd want something along the lines of: http://pastebin.com/i69s9q1t in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-screen.conf
[17:03] <GermainZ|Phone> Has anyone tried using an ipod nano as a live usb?
[17:03] <Threepwood> BEC: there is "always" an existing xorg.conf
[17:03] <adamk> But using the Virtual size you need.
[17:04] <Arvendu> Hello Guys one question if i will copy/paste or format my pen drive on unix system then will it work in windows or read?
[17:05] <escott> Arvendu, depends on how you format it
[17:05] <smee> bluesKaj: it is via hdmi to a amp. The amp is wired up correctly as tested on several other devices
[17:05] <Arvendu> escott guide me :( i want to remove windows crap :P
[17:06] <mandoguit> Arvendu:  fat  fat16 or 32 ntfs will be able to be read by windows systems
[17:06] <escott> Arvendu, you want to remove windows stuff but you want it to work on windows. im confused
[17:06]  * cfhowlett :)
[17:07] <lundy> how can I format a Pen Drive?
[17:07] <BluesKaj> smee, try the spdif out instead , hdmi audio might be misinterpreting the discrete location
[17:08] <mandoguit> Arvendu:   standard formatting these days compatibilty wise, afaik, is fat32
[17:08] <escott> lundy, install and use "gparted"
[17:08] <lundy> i wanna install ubuntu onto it so I can install Ubuntu on another desktop
[17:08] <cfhowlett> lundy, startupdisk creator will do it nicely as will unetbootin
[17:08] <mandoguit> lundy:   gparted and unetbootin would be one way.    see   pendrivelinux.com
[17:09] <lundy> kk ta
[17:09] <GermainZ|Phone> The live cd already has gparted so you can do it directly from there
[17:09] <lundy> gparted wont find my pens
[17:10] <mandoguit> lundy:  check the right hand upper corner of gparted where you can change the device to be partitioned
[17:10] <escott> lundy, gparted isnt the correct tool since you wanted to make an install usb
[17:12] <jcabo_> lundy: try usb-creator-gtk or usb-creator-kde to make a bootable ubuntu
[17:12] <Folorn> could someone tell me how to save all my channels/server so when i start up it just goes to all my channels automatically?
[17:12] <smee> bluesKaj: i only have a hdmi. I have remapped everything so correct channel order now but can't get any audio out of LFE at all. I have checked alsamixer is not muted LFE. Any ideas how to get LFE output? It is a sandby bridge.
[17:12] <jcabo_> lundy: it reformats the drive too
[17:13] <kdeuser> Folorn: what client do you use?
[17:13] <Folorn> xchat kdeuser
[17:13] <GermainZ|Phone> Folorn, depends on the client you're using. Ask in #help :)
[17:13] <mandoguit> Folorn:  right click on channel buttons and the Add to Favourites
[17:13] <kdeuser> Folorn:  Check your user settings, you should be able to add channels to join when you start xchat
[17:14] <BluesKaj> smee, what app are you using as an audio "test" ?
[17:15] <Folorn> just did dont see any place to save the channel list :(
[17:15] <mandoguit> Folorn:   Xchat > Network List > Freenode > Edit and make sure the "automatically join" box is ticked
[17:16] <Folorn> k 1sec mandoguit
[17:18] <smee> bluesKaj: I am using speaker-test to test audio
[17:18] <mandoguit> Folorn:   xchat > Server > Download list then Save List   for channel listings per server
[17:18] <Ravus> Hi.
[17:18] <cfhowlett> Ravus, greetings
[17:19] <Ravus> I'm about to dual boot 12.10 with windows 7. Anything I should know?
[17:19] <cfhowlett> Ravus, on what computer?
[17:19] <Ravus> Custom built pc.
[17:20] <kdeuser> Ravus: Install windows first and then *buntu
[17:20] <dr_willis> when in doubt.. make backups...
[17:20] <GermainZ|Phone> Ravus I did it without issued...
[17:20] <Folorn> thanks guys brb
[17:20] <cfhowlett> Ravus, install 12.04 Long Term Support ... less bleeding edge but quite likely better supported for your hardware
[17:20] <Ravus> I am on windows right now, I will be adding ubuntu.
[17:20] <GermainZ|Phone> I installed grub in linux's partition, tho
[17:21] <Ravus> Specs: Triple monitors  RAM: G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB)  CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 645 Propus 3.1GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core  Graphics card: Nvidia GeForce GT 520, ATI Radeon 4250  Motherboard: ASUS M4A88T-M
[17:21] <kdeuser> Ravus: then you will be just fine.. We are here to help you in case you have any issues after install
[17:22] <Ravus> Is the Windows installer any good?
[17:22] <cfhowlett> Ravus, do I read correctly that you running both nvidia AND ati GPU???
[17:22] <kdeuser> Ravus: you mean wubi? yes
[17:22] <Ravus> cfhowlett That's right.
[17:22] <cfhowlett> Ravus, wubi is great for TESTING ubuntu .. it's stated purpose.  It's not a permanent install solution ...
[17:23] <cfhowlett> Ravus, and you might have to do a bit of jiggering with 2 competing gpu's...
[17:23] <kdeuser> Ravus: Get the desktop version of ubuntu and try it out from the disc to check if you have any problems with any hardware
[17:24] <Arvendu> guys in ubuntu any download manager avail like windows have
[17:24] <nexus`> yeah
[17:24] <kdeuser> Arvendu: tons..
[17:24] <Arvendu> name plz
[17:24] <nexus`> synaptic is default it hink
[17:24] <cfhowlett> Arvendu, download manager?  you mean torrents?
[17:25] <nexus`> oh i thought he meant package
[17:25] <kdeuser> Arvendu: i use kget as I am on kde
[17:25] <Arvendu> no mate ..links download manager
[17:25] <Arvendu> like Windows have IDM,Flashget ,Dap etc
[17:25] <kdeuser> kget can download both torrents and normal files
[17:25] <nexus`> oh um
[17:25] <nexus`> Arvendu: just google flashget ubuntu
[17:25] <nexus`> it will pop up some alternative
[17:26] <jcabo_> kdeuser: for torrents in kde don't forget to check out QBitTorrent (it has an option to download sequentially)
[17:26] <nexus`> jdownloader i think?
[17:26] <kdeuser> Arvendu: my personal fav is wget though its command line based.. you have gui based versions also
[17:26] <nexus`> jcabo_: lots of private trackers have blacklisted qbitorrent
[17:26] <kdeuser> jcabo_: thanks, will check it out
[17:26] <Arvendu> yeah ...
[17:26] <Ravus> So, what is the deal with games on Ubuntu? Am I only able to play my Left 4 Dead on it?
[17:26] <GermainZ|Phone> I use downthemall
[17:26] <GermainZ|Phone> It's a firefox extension
[17:26] <Arvendu> these days linux is very famous :)
[17:26] <jcabo_> nexus`: I didn't know that, though I never use private trackers. Thanks for the info
[17:26] <nexus`> transmission is the way to go for torrents
[17:27] <nexus`> or rtorrent with rutorrent webgui
[17:27] <Arvendu> transmission,rtorrent :D
[17:27] <Arvendu> Rtorrent best :D
[17:27] <cfhowlett> Ravus, see software center/games... there are dozens if not hundreds
[17:27] <nexus`> i forgot about downthemall GermainZ|Phone
[17:27] <nexus`> theres your solution Arvendu
[17:27] <ErtanERBEK> Dear All, How can I disable ecryptfs system without delete my home folder, did you have any information about this issue ?
[17:27] <mandoguit> utorrent server seems to work fine here too
[17:27] <Arvendu> ;)
[17:27] <Ravus> cfhowlett Is that a native program on Ubuntu, such as an app market?
[17:28] <Arvendu> is it linux internet have faster access then windows?
[17:28] <nexus`> no
[17:28] <cfhowlett> Ravus, right, the Ubuntu Software Center ...
[17:28] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: network speed has little to do with the os
[17:28] <nexus`> your internet speed is based on the config file your ISP sends to the modem
[17:28] <nexus`> you can do a little tweaking on your end but not a whole lot
[17:28] <nexus`> messing with the MTU and such
[17:28] <Arvendu> kk
[17:29] <nexus`> ive never noticed much of a difference though
[17:29] <Ravus> I am getting  Ubuntu at 100kb/s, I'll be gone while this is downloading. Thanks for the help guys.
[17:29] <nexus`> enjoy it Ravus :)
[17:29] <Arvendu> but one thing more ...when i run live mode of ubuntu i am not able to see my ssid wifi network but network is enable
[17:29] <nexus`> download network manager
[17:30] <nexus`> or that may be an issue with live cd i dunno
[17:30] <nexus`> have u tried it installed on your HDD?
[17:30] <cfhowlett> Ravus, best of luck
[17:30] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: likely you haven't got the wifi driver installed. broadcom i guess?
[17:30]  * cfhowlett bets 10 RMB on broadcom !
[17:31] <Arvendu> i have dell inspiron 1525
[17:31] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: lspci
[17:31] <xsrHunt> you can not modify your internet speed from some config file sent by your isp !!
[17:31] <nexus`> not anymore
[17:31] <Arvendu> i am in windows right now
[17:31] <xsrHunt> the speed of your internet connection is programmed at the phone exchange
[17:31] <nexus`> years ago you could uncap your cable modem with some ISP's
[17:32] <nexus`> surfboard 4200
[17:32] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: open up the device manager then
[17:32] <xsrHunt> oh, sorry, i must of came half way, my apologies
[17:32] <nexus`> trick it into reading the config file from your computer instead of the ISP network
[17:32] <nexus`> but wha ti was getting at is that you can change your computer network settings
[17:32] <nexus`> however ive never noticed much if any difference
[17:33] <Arvendu> dell wireless 1395 Wlan
[17:33] <xsrHunt> i remember during the modem days we did some tricks similar to those
[17:33] <nexus`> back when we first got broadband here we only had 2mbit
[17:33] <nexus`> and i uncapped mine up to 20/20
[17:33] <Arvendu> nd marvell yukon 88E8040 Lan driver
[17:33] <nexus`> ran it for like a year before they upgraded and you couldnt do it anymore
[17:34] <xsrHunt> its awesome to get back on irc ... its been .... a bit over 14 years !! lol
[17:34] <ErtanERBEK> anyone canhelp me ?
[17:34] <mandoguit> Ravus:   with respect to your dual graphics card  see    https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki      you may need bumblebee for the nvidia side of things
[17:34] <Arvendu> ThinkT510 u here?
[17:34] <cfhowlett> ErtanERBEK, restate the problem
[17:34] <nexus`> ive still got a surfboard 4200 with firmware hack in a drawer somewhere
[17:34] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: lan is your ethernet
[17:34] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: thats the wired network
[17:34] <Arvendu> yes i know m8 but i want wifi driver which is dell wireless 1395
[17:35] <escott> mandoguit, i thought bumblebee was for laptop graphics switching, not Ravus multiple graphics cards in a desktop
[17:35] <ErtanERBEK> cfhowlett, I want remove ecryptfs folder feature from my computer
[17:35] <Arvendu> Think510 http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[17:36] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: there you go, broadcom
[17:36] <ErtanERBEK> it is mean I am using ecryptfs home folder now but working very slowly and I want delete that feature without delete my home folder
[17:36] <escott> ErtanERBEK, copy your files (excluding ~/.Private) out of $HOME and into a new folder in /home/newhome or the like. then switch homes, and then delete the /home/oldhome/.Private
[17:36] <cfhowlett> ErtanERBEK, ah yes.  I read a tutorial for that as I also installed ecrypt.  I decided that I'lll just have to wait for the next point release, reformat my drive and reinstall ...
[17:36] <mandoguit> escott:  some lappy's come with the dual setup
[17:36] <nexus`> Arvendu: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/wireless-internet/161177-dell-wireless-1395-ubuntu.html
[17:36] <nexus`> scroll down to second post
[17:36] <ErtanERBEK> cfhowlett, escott thank you for your suggestion
[17:36] <nexus`> if that doesnt work i just started here: https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+driver+dell+wireless+1395&aq=f&oq=ubuntu+driver+dell+wireless+1395&aqs=chrome.0.57j0l3.3209&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
[17:36] <mandoguit> escott:  Optimus is what it's called iirc
[17:36] <escott> mandoguit, Ravus already left the channel but his was not a laptop. it was a desktop. gaming machine with two cards
[17:36] <cfhowlett> ErtanERBEK, best of luck
[17:37] <Arvendu> nexus is this for Wireless or wired connection ?
[17:38] <escott> ErtanERBEK, you also have encrypted swap which you might want to swapoff, mkswap on the real device and then swapon as well as doing whatever to decommission the dmcrypt swap device
[17:38] <nexus`> at the bottom it says for wired but that thing it is downloading is a start
[17:38] <ErtanERBEK> escott, I am not use any swap area
[17:38] <nexus`> you need it apparently
[17:38] <nexus`> try to install it and see if it shows up
[17:38] <Arvendu> k
[17:38] <ErtanERBEK> I already have 16Gb memory unit at my leptop
[17:38] <mandoguit> escott:    ahhh...ok.   wasn't sure but just thought I'd mention it as it was a new install/user/newbie etc
[17:39] <ErtanERBEK> and I am realy not understadn my SSD disk readk speed 25 MB/s and write speed 13 Mb/s with ecryptfs system :D
[17:39] <Arvendu> nexus last question i have two partition right now....C Drive is windows and D Drive is backup i want to remove C Drive and install Ubuntu and i want to mass with D
[17:39] <ErtanERBEK> normal this disk can write 260 MB/s and read 300 MB/s D
[17:39] <escott> ErtanERBEK, it does go through fuse so thats a couple more memory copies
[17:39] <ErtanERBEK> how ecryptfs system downgrade my disk system speed I am realy not understand
[17:39] <nexus`> just repartition them
[17:40] <nexus`> what do you mean mass with D
[17:40] <Arvendu> i do not want to delete D Drive becz there is my backup available
[17:40] <nexus`> when you are running the installation of ubuntu just select the C to reformat and partition
[17:41] <fox__> اه
[17:41] <fox__> ااه
[17:41] <fox__> شو
[17:41] <nexus`> and make sure you select make a separate partition for /home as that will come in handy
[17:41] <fox__> حدا يرد
[17:41] <xsrHunt> dont format into FAT whatever u do
[17:41] <fox__> ألوووووووووو
[17:41] <FloodBot1> fox__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:41] <fox__> مرحبا
[17:41] <ErtanERBEK> I am getting my home folder now aftr try escott suggestion
[17:41] <cfhowlett> fox__, eglish???
[17:42] <ErtanERBEK> Sorry my bad englis, I gettin backup my home folder to another USB3 disk after try change home folder
[17:42] <nexus`> Arvendu: you have 1 HDD right?
[17:42] <nexus`> and C/D are the partition on it correct?
[17:43] <nexus`> if that is the case then during install just reformat C and tell ubuntu to use the free space partition to install
[17:43] <nexus`> D will be left alone
[17:43] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: be careful, or you might loose file permissions and hidden files, depending on how you copy your home folder.
[17:43] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: if you copy to an usb formatted as FAT32, you will loose file permissions
[17:43] <Arvendu> k just suppose if i want to delete both drive and Create two partiton then ?
[17:44] <nexus`>  u wanna get rid of D?
[17:44] <Arvendu> yes
[17:44] <ThinkT510> !partitioning | Arvendu
[17:44] <nexus`> then just reformat the whole drive
[17:44] <ErtanERBEK> I open all hidden file firstly ctrl+h and reslect all file with crtl+a after start copy progress
[17:44] <luisgmarine> hello guys I'm trying to set up a nice basic home server running out of my desktop machine.  I just want to be able to access all my movies , music, etc from the other machines on my network.  I've googled several how to tutotirials but no matter what I try I can never see the file from any other computer
[17:44] <nexus`> during install you can create partitions
[17:44] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: unless you compress it with tar.gz, as follows:    'tar cvzf filename.tgz /home/<your_home>'
[17:44] <ErtanERBEK> Thank you for your suggestion JC_SoCal
[17:44] <nexus`> it's fairly simple the GUI will tell you how
[17:44] <JC_SoCal> which suggestions was this?
[17:44] <Arvendu> k guys :) will back in few moments after installation done :)
[17:44] <escott> ErtanERBEK, don't do it through nautilus
[17:44] <Arvendu> Byee Thanks TC :D
[17:44] <nexus`> good luck
[17:45] <ErtanERBEK> JC_SoCal, I have 60 GB daha in my home folder My idea tar.gz not god selection for me :D
[17:45] <JC_SoCal> um ... your welcome?
[17:45] <escott> ErtanERBEK, you dont want a tar. you need to be able to use your copy to verify it is correct
[17:45] <Mehrdad> google sucks
[17:45] <ErtanERBEK> jcabo_, I have 60 GB daha in my home folder My idea tar.gz not god selection for me :D
[17:45] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: if I were you, I would copy to a different directory in the same harddisk, outside /home/<your_Home>, which will not be under ecryptfs
[17:45] <JC_SoCal> ^^ haha mistaken identity
[17:45] <Mehrdad> Bing > Google
[17:46] <nexus`> blasphemy Mehrdad
[17:46] <nexus`> google is a programmers #1 best friend
[17:47] <nexus`> and anyone who uses linux
[17:47] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: or first copy the big files to a usb, so that what you have to put in the .tgz are just the configuration files of home.
[17:47] <nexus`> a lot of questions that are asked in here are solved easily by being able to know how to use google right
[17:47] <Mehrdad> http://www.google.com/search?q=Histrionic+Personality+Disorder+social+anxiety&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1
[17:47] <Mehrdad> nexus` again, what?
[17:47] <nexus`> ?
[17:47] <Mehrdad> also what is the offtopic channel for ubuntu ?
[17:47] <nexus`> idk
[17:48] <nexus`> ##linux?
[17:48] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: 'cp -a' is recursive and preserves file permissions
[17:48] <ErtanERBEK> Dear Friends, I want ask to you
[17:48] <ThinkT510> !offtopic | Mehrdad
[17:48] <nexus`> he'll have to use cp -r to do the directory jcabo_
[17:48] <ErtanERBEK> first of all I get my all data to another disk
[17:48] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: 'cp -a' is recursive and preserves file permissions
[17:48] <ErtanERBEK> after delete my home folder and re copy all data another disk to my main disk
[17:48] <nexus`> oh nvm jcabo_ you are right
[17:48] <escott> nexus`, -a includes -dR
[17:48] <nexus`> just looked at the man
[17:49] <obert> hello, i am trying to install kate via package manager but everytime i got it installed as root
[17:49] <nexus`> manual
[17:49] <nexus`> learned something new
[17:49] <nexus`> :)
[17:49] <FloodBot1> nexus`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:49] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: On the other hand, if all you care about is data, and not configuration files, then copy to usb is fine.
[17:49] <ErtanERBEK> but how can stop ecryptfs system
[17:49] <Wizek> Hello! Do .desktop files support drag-and-drop funcionality from the unity launcher?
[17:49] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: to stop ecryptfs is easy: just create another user (see System Settings)
[17:50] <ErtanERBEK> I mean how can I stop ecryptfs mount system
[17:50] <Wizek> I mean drag and drop onto them
[17:50] <ErtanERBEK> jcabo_, But I want use same user
[17:50] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: after you created another user, copy the files from /home/<old_user> to /home/<new_user>/
[17:50] <ErtanERBEK> because I have many configuration at password and group side and other system folder for this user
[17:52] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: maybe this will help you, it involves creating another user as an intermediate step though: http://virtually-a-machine.blogspot.com.ar/2010/08/howto-disable-ecryptfs.html
[17:53] <ErtanERBEK> Thank jcabo_
[17:53] <BEC> adamk, I've done the following: http://paste2.org/p/2845925 (excluding the ,.) but I still have problems
[17:55] <zetheroo> You have a bunch of text - enough for 10 - 20 pages - and you want to have this text laid out in a document with embedded audio files which you can click on to listen to. -- How would one accomplish this in Linux? :D
[17:55] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, libreoffice impress???
[17:56] <marchtemp> zetheroo: HTML5
[17:56] <BEC> adamk, I also tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/35968/multi-screen-problems-virtual-size-does-not-fit-available-size (Catalyst reply!)
[17:56] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: before you try that guide, do a backup of important data first though!
[17:56] <zetheroo> cfhowlett: unfortunately my experiences with LibreOffice in this regard have been dismally negative :P
[17:57] <zetheroo> marchtemp: so basically making a website out of it ... ?
[17:57] <marchtemp> I have a problem with ALSA in Ubuntu minimal, I've installed alsa-utils, and alsa-tools, but the sound only works in headphones.
[17:57] <marchtemp> zetheroo: Not a website, but a bunch of HTML pages.
[17:57] <zetheroo> marchtemp: right
[17:58] <zetheroo> marchtemp: but for someone who knows nothing of coding in HTML is there a program that can do this ?
[17:59] <marchtemp> zetheroo: I know there are projects that help you create a local media library with HTML.
[17:59] <zetheroo> marchtemp: hmm .. sounds interesting ..
[18:00] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: perhaps ask in ##linux since your question isn't really ubuntu specific
[18:00] <marchtemp> zetheroo: I don't know your background, I suggest learning HTML, it's easy.
[18:00] <marchtemp> ThinkT510: I have an Ubuntu specific question.
[18:01] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: good thought ... how do you like your T510? Did the T510 already come with the chicklet keyboard? ;)
[18:01] <nayris> Hello everone, am new to Ubuntu and i need some help to set my Thunderbird , Any one ?
[18:01] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: not sure what you mean by chicklet but i like my thinkpad very much
[18:01] <ThinkT510> marchtemp: i have no issues with alsa so i can't really help you sorry
[18:01] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: your first Thinkpad?
[18:02] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: nope, my first was a t40
[18:02] <nayris> i am using a thinkpad my self :D sl510 too
[18:02] <marchtemp> ThinkT510: Does 12.04 use pulse or alsa or both?
[18:02] <ThinkT510> marchtemp: both
[18:02] <marchtemp> ThinkT510: How do they not conflict?
[18:03] <marchtemp> Maybe I need to install pulse.
[18:03] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: ok, then is the keyboard on the T510 the same as the T40?
[18:03] <ThinkT510> marchtemp: i'm not the most knowledgable regarding the sound system but i think pulse and alsa do slightly different things
[18:03] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: no
[18:03] <ClientAlive> I need to move about a dozen files over ssh to my other other computer. Is there a way to pipe the filenames in or something? (some easier way to issue the command so I don't have to type out every file name)?
[18:04] <marchtemp> ClientAlive: Tar or zip them and scp the archive.
[18:04] <jcabo_> nayris: you can move your thunderbird profile and retain all configuration and emails from a previous thunderbird installation (even from windows)
[18:04] <marchtemp> jcabo_: I think he quit.
[18:05] <jcabo_> ohh sorry
[18:05] <jcabo_> you're right
[18:05] <ClientAlive> I I have all the individual files tarred....  :s
[18:05] <marchtemp> ClientAlive: so what tar doesn't care.
[18:05] <Threepwood> ClientAlive:  or "scp -r sourceFolder username@host:targetFolder
[18:06] <zetheroo> marchtemp: running 12.04 here with pulseaudio 1:1.1-0ubuntu15.2 installed
[18:06] <marchtemp> zetheroo: I only have the base system. No DE.
[18:06] <zetheroo> and alsa-base 1.0.25+dfsg-0ubuntu1
[18:06] <kha0s1> i have an issue with crash with bumblebee-ui and ubuntu 12.10 (updated)
[18:07] <ClientAlive> Threepwood: then what? When I get them on the other computer do a mv on every file name to get them back out of the folder? This is an operation to add media files to an existing collection on the other machine.
[18:07] <ThinkT510> kha0s1: bumblebee isn't really supported here
[18:08] <ErtanERBEK> jcabo_, I found one document about transfer ecryptfs user document to another use account http://www.howtogeek.com/116179/how-to-disable-home-folder-encryption-after-installing-ubuntu/
[18:08] <kha0s1> Ok ThinkT510 I have reported to the github issue too
[18:08] <Threepwood> ClientAlive:  dont have a clue what you are doing here, but the go on with the "tar em all" advice
[18:08] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: just checked .. the T510 still has the legendary Keyboard - nice!! ;)
[18:09] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: that guide will work fine too
[18:09] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: i made sure my t510 wasn't optimus
[18:09] <ErtanERBEK> thank you for your assitance dear jcabo_
[18:09] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: I have a R61, T400, T40p and T42 here .. and my wife uses a T61 ... Nothing but Thinkpad for me :D
[18:09] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: :-) no problem!!
[18:10] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: by Optimus your referring to the NVIDIA gfx? Why did you avoid it?
[18:10] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: optimus is nvidia plus intel switchable graphics
[18:10] <Chiku|dc> hum is it normal ? tcp6       0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:61613         :::*                    LISTEN      110        27735       26899/java
[18:11] <marchtemp> I don't really want to install pulse. Can I make my sound work with speakers with ALSA only?
[18:11] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: yes - but why did you avoid it?
[18:11] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: so i could have a working laptop
[18:11] <ClientAlive> well, it seems to me if I put everything in one directory on the sending computer I will still have to get the contents of that directory out on the recieving computer - and that takes me right back to typing out 12 long file names into a ludacrous long command (or compying and pasting 12 long file names into a ludacrous long command) - in order to get the files back out of the directory I sent them to the other computer in.
[18:11] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: I have ATI/Intel switchable on my T400 ... and it's running Ubuntu 12.04 fine ...
[18:11] <Chiku|dc> listening on tcp6 with ipv4 address ?
[18:12] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: you just have to disable the auto-switching in the BIOS - but you can still use both cards
[18:12] <ClientAlive> So I'm wondering if there is a way to use a pipe or variable in the command so I can send the 12 files outside of a containing directory and into the existing directory on the other machine that already contains over 100 similar media files.
[18:12] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: why get it in the first place if you can't autoswitch?
[18:12] <l3g3nd> how do i add ip blockers like on windows with the application called peerblock
[18:13] <ioria> marchtemp: i disintalled pulseaudio and i'm ok ... but i'm on lubuntu here.
[18:13] <ClientAlive> I can't afford for anything to get clobbered or corrupted in this process - these are the only copies
[18:13] <marchtemp> ioria: The problem is: ALSA works with headphones only. I have no idea what is going on.
[18:14] <BluesKaj> marchtemp, laptop ?
[18:14] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: well if I need the higher powered gfx for something in particular I can boot into BIOS, select the ATI gfx and then boot into Ubuntu ... since I have an SSD in my T400 the boot time is lightning fast - so I can switch the gfx card within less 30 seconds
[18:14] <marchtemp> BluesKaj: Yes.
[18:15] <blackjack> hy all
[18:15] <blackjack>  I'm still confused with this topology, in my ubuntu server using 2 nic, one onboard headed to swith, the second nic toward mikrotik, mikrotik ip <IP_ADDRESS>, http://postimage.org/image/91p7e8eyj/
[18:15] <Threepwood> ClientAlive: you can also use a gui-approach (filezilla) if typing 12 times the "same" scp command is too much :)
[18:15] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: that sounds awfully clunky to me, but i'm glad you are happy with the solution
[18:15] <marchtemp> BluesKaj: Ubuntu minimal 12.04, Installed alsa-base, alsa-tools, alsa-utils..
[18:15] <blackjack> can help my ?
[18:15] <BluesKaj> marchtemp, which sound card ?
[18:15] <GeekSquid> l3g3nd: check out this link... it is the easy peasy way of blocking things https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[18:15] <ClientAlive> ok ok
[18:15] <ClientAlive> thx
[18:15] <marchtemp> BluesKaj: Inted HDA something
[18:16] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: LOL, I have only done it twice since getting the laptop - the Intel gfx are very sufficient.
[18:16] <ioria> marchtemp: if you type alsamixer ?
[18:16] <Threepwood> ClientAlive: no problem, maybe there is a better approach, but i cant tell you more
[18:16] <ClientAlive> np
[18:16] <l3g3nd> geeksquid-thanks
[18:16] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: besides the Intel gfx run cooler and consume less power - so better for battery life :P
[18:16] <marchtemp> ioria: it brings the volume levels. I also have gnome-alsamixer
[18:17] <scratchy> back
[18:17] <BluesKaj> marchtemp, ,ok , firstly you probly have pulesaudio installed , recommend you also install it's gui , pavucontrol , helps with enabling inputs and outputs
[18:17] <ClientAlive> Threepwood: I'm wondering if somthing like: ls | scp sending: ./
[18:17] <ioria> marchtemp: maybe you should change the settings of your player
[18:17] <ClientAlive> would work
[18:17] <ClientAlive> I can see that isn't syntactically correct tho and not sure if it would even work
[18:18] <marchtemp> BluesKaj: I don't think I have it installed.
[18:18] <Threepwood> ClientAlive: thats basically the same as scp folder ... if you want to select only some files thats another story
[18:18] <marchtemp> ioria: I tried it with speaker-test.
[18:18] <scratchy> ok got the minimal installed with xfce
[18:18] <scratchy> very happy with the results
[18:18] <jcabo_> ClientAlive: see 'man xargs' to pipe arguments to the next command
[18:19] <ThinkT510> !yay | scratchy
[18:19] <BluesKaj> marchtemp, open a console , type pulseaudio
[18:19] <Threepwood> ClientAlive: I think you can also "add" the files to your existing folder, scp ist "the same" as a lokal cp (at least it got very similar behaviour)
[18:19] <ClientAlive> Threepwood: well, not really, scp can take multiple files to send in it's command. If I can get them into the stream without typeing them out I'm golden
[18:19] <Taylr0x> Good evening all.
[18:19] <marchtemp> BluesKaj: No commands start with pulse.
[18:19] <MikeH> Any suggestions why despite the installer saying I have over 4.9GB space available, it won't let me install the boot loader to my hard drive?
[18:19] <jcabo_> ClientAlive: but what you are looking for is this:       for a in *; do scp $a sending:/  ; done
[18:19] <Threepwood> ClientAlive: does the folder contain only files you need or also some others?
[18:20] <scratchy> It looks very clean :) made me a happy camper...Id like to invest some time now in securing my system. Since im going to use it on public wireless network. Already got a root password. Is there a good firewall available that you could recommend ?
[18:20] <marchtemp> BluesKaj: ls /usr/bin | grep pulse returns nothing
[18:20] <jcabo_> ClientAlive: try it first with 'echo' as in :       for a in *; do echo scp $a sending:/  ; done
[18:20] <ThinkT510> scratchy: you shouldn't set a root password for a desktop system
[18:20] <ClientAlive> what Threepwood ways - a mixture of directories actually. But the ones I need to move are .tar.gz which is treated like a file (no -r needed).
[18:20] <threepi> hi
[18:20] <ThinkT510> !noroot | scratchy
[18:21] <ClientAlive> jcabo_: I'll experiment with that
[18:21] <ClientAlive> thx
[18:21] <ioria> marchtemp: if you type ps -A , can you see pulseaudio ?
[18:21] <scratchy> no I know :)
[18:21] <threepi> for some odd reason i can't seem to access any programs that are installed int he /opt folder, albeit proper permissions set... is there a knowable reason for this?
[18:21] <scratchy> I got it set
[18:21] <scratchy> lol
[18:21] <scratchy> just asking
[18:21] <FloodBot1> scratchy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:21] <scratchy> you know anygood firewalls
[18:21] <jcabo_> ClientAlive: you can use *.tgz instead of * too.
[18:21] <marchtemp> ioria: I'm pretty possitive that I don't have it installed.
[18:21] <ClientAlive> jcabo_: cool  :)
[18:21] <ThinkT510> !ufw | scratchy
[18:22] <marchtemp> ioria: ps -A | grep pulse. no results.
[18:22] <obert> can i know how to install kate properly? not as root but as user, in order to let it save config
[18:22] <Taylr0x> Is anyone able to point me in the direction of a list of desktop environments you can run whilst operating Ubuntu please?
[18:23] <Taylr0x> Want something like Fluxbox (used this YEARS ago when running Gentoo).
[18:23] <ThinkT510> obert: all software installation has to be done via sudo
[18:23] <BluesKaj> marchtemp, then just install it
[18:23] <obert> ThinkT510: i'm using software package
[18:23] <ioria> marchtemp: which player do you use ?
[18:23] <ClientAlive> jcabo_: well wait a cotton pickin minute here. Now just *.tar.gz will list all .tar.gz file (ie: ls *.tar.gz) - so why can't I just go: scp sender:/*.tar.gz ./receiving/end
[18:23] <ClientAlive> ??
[18:23] <marchtemp> BluesKaj: Do I need pulse to get my speakers to work?
[18:23] <nathansuchy> Hey I need help configuring some software can anyone help?
[18:24] <marchtemp> ioria: mplayer, smplayer.
[18:24] <jcabo_> ClientAlive: I'm not sure, why don't you try it?
[18:24] <Threepwood> ClientAlive: what about scp `find -L sourceFolder -name "*tar.gz"` user@host:targetFolder
[18:24] <obert> ThinkT510: point is that when i modify kate config it will no be saved
[18:24] <ThinkT510> !info fluxbox | Taylr0x
[18:24] <ClientAlive> I better make a copy of this crap and do it on the copy
[18:24] <obert> ThinkT510: since kate's config is under root
[18:24] <ClientAlive> here goes nuthin I guess
[18:24] <nathansuchy> I need help configuring some software can anyone help
[18:24] <BluesKaj> marchtemp, dunno for sure , but on my setup I need pulse to get audio on websites to work
[18:24] <ThinkT510> obert: why are you trying to modify kate's config?
[18:25] <marchtemp> BluesKaj: What DE?
[18:25] <Taylr0x> Thanks ThinkT510. Is there any desktop environment you know of that's quite clean and minimalistic? I like the default Gnome but it just seems too 'beginner friendly'.
[18:25] <obert> ThinkT510: default config is weird: no line number and such
[18:25] <nathansuchy> I need to get Hulu Desktop Linux to recognize Adobe Flashplayer?
[18:25] <Threepwood> ClientAlive: try to get the files you need with find and adjust the command above
[18:25] <nathansuchy> I need to get Hulu Desktop Linux to recognize Adobe Flashplayer? Can anyone help???
[18:25] <ThinkT510> Taylr0x: my favourite is xfce
[18:25] <BluesKaj> marchtemp, on KDE and Unity
[18:25] <Threepwood> maybe thats what you need
[18:25] <nathansuchy> I need to get Hulu Desktop Linux to recognize Adobe Flashplayer?
[18:25] <Taylr0x> !info xfce
[18:26] <ioria> marchtemp: try to go in preferences and in audio select alsa with your audio device
[18:26] <ThinkT510> !info xfce4 | Taylr0x
[18:26] <threepi> anyone know of the best driver to use for radeon 5770?
[18:26] <cfhowlett> !info xfce4
[18:26] <Taylr0x> Ah many thanks!
[18:26] <marchtemp> ioria: What preferences, I don't have Unity installed.
[18:26] <Taylr0x> How simple is that to install/replace the default desktop environment on Ubuntu?
[18:26] <BluesKaj> ioria, his headphone work , his speakers don't
[18:27] <BluesKaj> headphones work
[18:27] <xangua> Taylr0x: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop , if you want xfce
[18:27] <ioria> marchtemp: i meant mplayer preferences, btw
[18:27] <threepi> for some odd reason i can't seem to access any programs that are installed int he /opt folder, albeit proper permissions set... is there a knowable reason for this?
[18:27] <ThinkT510> Taylr0x: no need to remove anything, just login to that desktop via the login manager (it will be default for next time)
[18:27] <BluesKaj> ok  ... this going nowhwere ..bbl
[18:28] <Taylr0x> Simple as that? Lovely. Many thanks for the help ThinkT510  and xangua! Will take a peak at that now. Looking at the screenshots it seems to be near what I'm after!
[18:28] <marchtemp> ioria: Speakers don't work with aplay or speaker-test. I'm pretty sure, mplayer will fail too.
[18:28] <obert> ThinkT510: no way to fix it?
[18:29] <Taylr0x> Before I do anything, can I install desktop environments on a USB live CD boot? Or do I need to have this installed as my main OS before doing anything that involved?
[18:29] <Taylr0x> Also, is there anything you recommend I run before installing Ubuntu to make sure all hardware is supported? As I have a feeling my graphics card may not be.
[18:29] <ThinkT510> obert: edit the config file with a text editor via sudo (commandline) or gksudo (graphical)
[18:30] <cfhowlett> !hardware|Taylor, check the list
[18:30] <ThinkT510> Taylr0x: what graphics?
[18:30] <MikeH> Can anyone help? I'm trying to install ubuntu, however it's trying to install to the USB stick (1GB) that I'm running the installer from rather than the 1TB HD that is connected
[18:30] <marchtemp> BluesKaj: ioria: Thank you, guys. I guess I'll just try to install pulse.
[18:31] <BluesKaj> marchtemp, It's your best bet ..necessary evil IMO
[18:31] <ioria> marchtemp: wait... maybe i found something
[18:32] <threepi> i guess no one knows about the /opt folder then eh?
[18:32] <ThinkT510> threepi: its optional
[18:32] <Taylr0x> ThinkT510, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470. I've had issues getting this working in the past (considerable time ago now though). Which put me off in the long run.
[18:32] <ioria> marchtemp: askununtu.com/questions/117842/no-sound-from-speakers-but-headphones-work
[18:32] <ThinkT510> Taylr0x: that'll work fine
[18:32] <threepi> ThinkT510, yes do you know why programs installed to there won't open even though their file permissions are correct?
[18:33] <ioria> marchtemp: askubuntu.com/questions/117842/no-sound-from-speakers-but-headphones-work
[18:33] <ThinkT510> threepi: no idea sorry
[18:33] <threepi> ThinkT510, thanks anyway
[18:33] <Taylr0x> ThinkT510, going to do a fresh install now me thinks! You've been a massive help. Many thanks and speak to you soon hopefully!
[18:33] <threepi> has anyone installed acrobat reader, successfully on ubuntu?
[18:34] <Taylr0x> On a side note, this new bar that they've introduced on the left hand side of the screen. Do you have to have this on display/ at all?
[18:34] <cfhowlett> threepi, yes
[18:34] <Taylr0x> With the default installation I mean.
[18:34] <ThinkT510> Taylr0x: thats the default environment: unity
[18:34] <ThinkT510> !xubuntu | Taylr0x
[18:34] <Taylr0x> ThinkT510, Can you relocate it to the botom/top?
[18:34] <ThinkT510> Taylr0x: no
[18:34] <SunilJoshi> Hi, can i configure Terminal to paste on right click of my mouse instead of middle click...
[18:35] <threepi> cfhowlett, what folder is it installed into?
[18:35] <Taylr0x> Oooh. Might give Xubtuntu a bash now. Be back soon and thank you again!~
[18:35] <jcabo_> Taylr0x: if you want something more classical, you can try Kubuntu too (my personal favorite)
[18:36] <cfhowlett> threepi, oh man, that was so long ago ... I don't even have it anymore as evince does the job ... sorry
[18:36] <IboS> what's the less memory eater between all ubuntu distros ?
[18:36] <l057c0d3r> jcabo_,  heh or gnome cairo-dock setup
[18:36] <l057c0d3r> http://uppix.net/4/7/1/62aa966e6e6efbf25af857b3c9e89.png
[18:36] <IboS> i have an hold pc
[18:36] <threepi> evince doesn't do highlighting right?
[18:36] <cfhowlett> IboS, xubuntu and lubuntu are both lightweight
[18:36] <ThinkT510> !lubuntu | IboS
[18:36] <obert> ThinkT510: is that the classic way? why there's Preferences in the menu then?:)
[18:37] <heywood> ran apt-get dist-upgrade two nights ago. got a message saying "restart required" (or something along those lines). after i did so, i can no longer ssh into the box (error is "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host").
[18:37] <ThinkT510> obert: no idea, i don't use kate
[18:37] <obert> ThinkT510: generally speaikin
[18:37] <ThinkT510> obert: do you see a save button for your preferences?
[18:38] <obert> ThinkT510: sure
[18:38] <heywood> anyone else having issues with ssh like this? do ubuntu upgrades mess with /etc/hosts.allow or /etc/hosts.deny ?
[18:39] <l057c0d3r> heywood.. no sure but you should check to make sure its all set up right..  maybe check the ssh key like you did when you created it for the first time ext....
[18:39] <l057c0d3r> not really sure though dont use it much
[18:39] <l057c0d3r> and never had that problem
[18:40] <big_mike> hey guys, could somebody help me with an issue with nouveau?
[18:40] <obert> ThinkT510: something are weird
[18:40] <alami> any one can tell one why i can't find irssi silc client package
[18:40] <matiasbatero> hi big_mike
[18:41] <jcabo_> heywood: here is a website, the comments in the article might give some clues: http://edoceo.com/notabene/ssh-exchange-identification
[18:41] <heywood> jcabo_: heh. i'm looking at that very page in another window...
[18:41] <MrL0ngbowman> KDE ftw!
[18:41] <matiasbatero> what is your problem?.. i'm not expert..
[18:41] <WhiteRussian> +OK FE5691v18Ky1KpcUr07lXNX.
[18:42] <jcabo_> heywood: sorry I can only give you a website, I haven't experienced the problem personally. Also, review the sshd configuration (login as root is almost always disabled for instance)
[18:42] <heywood> jcabo_: no worries. problem is that i'm not in the same place as the server, so i have to walk someone through troubleshooting.
[18:42] <W|cKeD> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.34-lucid/ <-- is this site legit? why can't i get the linux-header in my synaptic package manager!? thanx
[18:43] <SunilJoshi> Hi, can i configure Terminal to paste on right click of my mouse instead of middle click...
[18:43] <heywood> add in the fact that they're not computer-savvy (and definitely not comfortable on the commandline), and a slightly wonky keyboard... and you get the fun i'm having this afternoon.
[18:43] <ThinkT510> W|cKeD: ppas, all of them, are unsupported here
[18:43] <big_mike> matiasbatero: Yeah so this happened multiple times, where XOrg would crash and and my cpu usage goes through the roof because nouveau is logging to it. I end up with a 2+ gb log file of the same message
[18:44] <heywood> jcabo_: FWIW, not logging in as root. (root sshd logins are disabled, as is root in general on that machine.)
[18:44] <llutz> obert: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && find ~/.kde -type f -iname '*kate*' |xargs ls -l  |pastebinit"
[18:44] <llutz> obert: then paste the resulting link here please
[18:44] <heywood> jcabo_: weird thing is that the problems started right after i rebooted following the dist-upgrade. up until then, everything was working just fine.
[18:45] <heywood> so the ubuntu update seems to have changed/borked something.
[18:45] <jcabo_> heywood: in this website:  http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com.ar/2010/02/dist-upgrade-misnomer-confusion.html a comment says  "I've found that during a run of do-release-upgrade I'll be unable to ssh in to that machine"
[18:45] <obert> llutz: that will make my computer exploding?
[18:45] <stevesmename> I could use some assistance understanding what "alsamixer" is and will do? I have a current problem where I have no sound cards found. I read something that alsamixer is just an app that will allow you to change your volume settings but I have a problem where sound cards are not seen. I ask here because I saw another post that states "alsamixer" installed will find your sound cards too.
[18:45] <llutz> obert: no, it will just give us the chance to look at some permissions of kate-configfiles
[18:46] <obert> ls -l isnt enought?:)
[18:46] <Arvendu> Hello guys i m back :D
[18:46] <llutz> obert: paste those lines,but use pastebin NOT here
[18:46] <heywood> stevesmename: take a look at http://linux.die.net/man/1/alsamixer if you haven't already.
[18:46] <obert> llutz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1633948/
[18:46] <heywood> stevesmename: it's text-based, which is clunky, but it might work.
[18:46] <ThinkT510> stevesmename: alsamixer is run in a terminal, it lets you manage your sound settings
[18:46] <Arvendu> nexus u here?
[18:46] <obert> llutz: it gives me the pastebin url at end ;)
[18:47] <Arvendu> i have installed ubuntu now need really some help
[18:47] <llutz> obert: "sudo find ~/.kde  -iname '*kate*' |xargs chown ar:ar "
[18:47] <jcabo_> heywood: here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/connection-to-ssh-closing-immediately-520565/       "You have a problem with your ssh upgrade. Uninstall, then reinstall."
[18:47] <stevesmename> heywood++
[18:47] <stevesmename> ThinkT510++
[18:47] <llutz> obert: and thats is one reason you shouldn't use "sudo kate" (there is gksudo)
[18:47] <Arvendu> when i am logged in it is just normal user how can i logged in using root user?
[18:47] <ThinkT510> !root | Arvendu
[18:47] <obert> llutz: i never use sudo
[18:47] <Argo> Hello guys
[18:48] <jcabo_> heywood: it says to do: 'dpkg -l | grep ssh'   Make sure all the ssh packages are uninstalled. Then reinstall ssh. 'apt-get remove --purge openssh-client openssh-server' 'apt-get install ssh'
[18:48] <obert> llutz: chown: illegal act
[18:48] <stevesmename> Argo: Affleck? :P
[18:48] <Arvendu> k Think can u pm u please ?
[18:48] <llutz> obert: sudo find ~/.kde  -iname '*kate*' -exec chown ar:ar "{}" \;
[18:49] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: yes, because you asked nicely
[18:49] <W|cKeD> ThinkT510, i see thanx, i'm just desperate on how i can config my BCM4312 wireless in ubuntu 10.04 2.6.32-21-generic STA broadcom ain't working i'm plannin to use b43 instead
[18:49] <matiasbatero> Arvendu: use sudo, or gksu
[18:49] <obert> done
[18:49] <llutz> obert: did you copy those configs from somewhere then? by default those wouldn't be root-owned
[18:49] <ThinkT510> !b43 | W|cKeD
[18:49] <heywood> jcabo_: thanks. hadn't thought of that, but i'll give it a try. (or rather i will ask my "proxy" to do so.)
[18:49] <Arvendu> thanks :)
[18:49] <Argo> I'd love to try Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro, but when I use the instructions ( http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx ) and reboot with rEFIt installed, i get a "error loading operating system".
[18:49] <obert> llutz: i only launched ubuntu software and installed it as user
[18:50] <llutz> obert: thats odd, sounds like a bug
[18:50] <obert> -as user perhaps:p
[18:50] <heywood> jcabo_: do you know if apt's postflight scripts for ssh(d) automatically start the daemon once it's up and running?
[18:50] <heywood> er, i mean, once it's installed?
[18:50] <obert> why? shouldnt be correct to have http://paste.ubuntu.com/1633948/ ?
[18:50] <llutz> obert: userconfigs are not to be root-owned
[18:51] <jcabo_> heywood: yes, after an upgrade to sshd it automatically comes back up
[18:51] <obert> llutz:  no?
[18:51] <llutz> obert: you cannot change them, if they are
[18:51] <llutz> obert: it makes no sense at all
[18:51] <obert> llutz: now it seems to be fixed anyway
[18:51] <jcabo_> heywood: if it wasn't up, you would get a different error, like ' computer refusing connection' or something
[18:51] <heywood> jcabo_: ok. lastly, would a remove/install overwrite /etc/ssh/sshd_config?
[18:51] <llutz> obert: "find ~ -uid 0"
[18:52] <heywood> jcabo_: no, no, i'm quite sure it's up.
[18:52] <jcabo_> heywood: yes (especially with -purge option)
[18:52] <heywood> i can telnet to the port and get the ssh prompts.
[18:52] <jcabo_> heywood: if you do apt-get remove (without -purge option) it should be left intact
[18:52] <obert> llutz: what is htat
[18:52] <isaias> How do I dualboot Ubuntu and Windows when I have ubuntu already installed?
[18:52] <llutz> obert: find more files root-owned
[18:52] <llutz> obert: there shuldn't be any
[18:53] <obert> heh lots of them instead. llutz: this is a vm btw
[18:53] <heywood> jcabo_: i can do something like "cp sshd_config sshd_config.bak", unless the remove -purge step removes the entire directory.
[18:53] <llutz> obert: vm/no-vm doesn't matter, something is odd there...
[18:53] <obert> llutz: a bug could be acceptable perhaps
[18:53] <heywood> does -purge do anything else that might be useful for the clean install?
[18:53] <jcabo_> heywood: let me see
[18:54] <obert> llutz: dunno, thanks for the tip though and help
[18:54] <heywood> sorry, if i were sitting at the machine this would be trivial to check. but i'm like a thousand miles away from there :o
[18:54] <janisozaur> is there libreoffice 4 ppa for precise?
[18:54] <obert> llutz: when i install something via software package config files should be owned by user?
[18:54] <llutz> obert: if you encounter more issues, just check/repair permissions. this only is valid for users $HOME, not outside!
[18:55] <Argo> Does anyone have experience with booting ubuntu on OS X using a USB-drive?
[18:55] <llutz> obert: packages won't install personal-configs in most cases. they will be created when a user runs the program and then will be user-owned
[18:55] <obert> llutz: yup, but i destroied a machine some years ago trying to fix permissionsd, since that i never plaied anymore with them
[18:55] <jcabo_> heywood: take a look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.postrm  in the 'purge)' section, that is what it does
[18:56] <obert> my typing is horrible, sorry
[18:56] <Yankee_Bruce> new to linux/ubuntu.  do i need a virus protection application?
[18:56] <obert> Yankee_Bruce: no virus under linux
[18:56] <heywood> jcabo_: erm, i'd sort of need to be at the console, no? is that source available online somewhere?
[18:56] <jcabo_> heywood: the conffiles removed with purge are those listed in the file /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.conffiles
[18:56] <ThinkT510> !av | Yankee_Bruce
[18:56] <llutz> obert: as i said, usually there shouldn't be any files inside your $HOME not being owned by you
[18:57] <obert> oh
[18:57] <Yankee_Bruce> lack of trying, or it is inherently resistant
[18:57] <jcabo_> heywood: let me see about pastebin'in
[18:57] <heywood> jcabo_: if you have that handy on your machine, could you pastebin it?
[18:57] <matiasbatero> Yankee_Bruce: No except you have installed windows on a partition i you want to clean that
[18:57] <heywood> jcabo_: GMTA
[18:57] <obert> llutz: ok thanks. that's a good clarification
[18:57] <obert> llutz: btw what is $ ?:)
[18:57] <llutz> obert: in what context?
[18:57] <Yankee_Bruce> I have installed as a dual boot.  originally XP, now with Ubuntu
[18:58] <obert> llutz: which lang
[18:58] <BEC> adamk, moreover the LG 32" is being detected as 72"!
[18:58] <Sendoushi> hey guys
[18:58] <llutz> obert: dollar-sign? as in $HOME?
[18:58] <heywood> BEC: that's a really inexpensive way to get a much larger monitor.
[18:58] <matiasbatero> Yankee_Bruce, yeah, virus does not affect linux..
[18:58] <BEC> heywood, lol
[18:58] <llutz> obert: marks a variable (echo $HOME)
[18:58] <obert> llutz: yep. i dont remember nothing except php that using $:)
[18:59] <obert> llutz: do you know which lang is?
[18:59] <llutz> obert: most shells using it
[18:59] <Yankee_Bruce> matiasbatero: that is good news.  I was trying to figure out how to get my Nortons to run on it
[18:59] <jcabo_> heywood: here you go: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1633991/
[18:59] <obert> bash huh?
[18:59] <Sendoushi> been starting to use ubuntu and having some fun with it. Now i want to do a virtual machine for a home server. i'm a developer which wants to try out the development on my own network. Talking about LAMP and Node.js. Should I go with ubuntu or server or... even devian?
[18:59] <isaias> How do I dualboot Ubuntu and Windows when I have ubuntu already installed?
[18:59] <Argo> Does anyone have experience with running Ubuntu from a USB-drive with a Mac?
[18:59] <llutz> so does bash
[18:59] <matiasbatero> Yankee_Bruce, but you have problems cleaning XP you must consider to use some antivirus on linux to solve some problems
[18:59] <obert> llutz: indeed. thanks
[19:00] <llutz> obert: VARTEST="myvariable" ; echo $VARTEST           like this
[19:00] <l057c0d3r> Yankee_Bruce, wait are you trying to put norton on linux ??
[19:00] <obert> mhm weird syntax
[19:00] <Yankee_Bruce> natiasbatero, had a problem with a root_kit on my laptop, but finally got it cleared up.  trying to get linux on it, but disk space is limited
[19:00] <ClientAlive> If I do -> "for a in sender:/home/uname/Path/Path/*.tar.gz; do echo scp $a /mnt/media/Video/Movies/Mainstream/; done"  I get -> "scp duckduckgoose:/home/shine/Downloads/Torrent/*.tar.gz /mnt/media/Video/Movies/Mainstream/"  <-  This is close but not perfect. I'm stuck. Any ideas?
[19:00] <Arvendu> how can i make ppoe connection in ubuntu and dial so my internet will work
[19:01] <ClientAlive> ha ha
[19:01] <ClientAlive> woops!
[19:01] <ClientAlive> ahh well  :)
[19:01] <compdoc> no laughing
[19:01] <ThinkT510> !pppoe | Arvendu
[19:02] <sepehr> hi
[19:02] <Guest37383> j
[19:02] <Guest37383> l
[19:02] <matiasbatero> Yankee_Bruce, mm i think that using norton isn't the best choice
[19:02] <W|cKeD> is it safe if i'll do a complete removal in my synaptic package manager bout linux-headers that are installed that i didn't know? i got a linux-header 2.6.32-21-generic but i saw some headers installed and related to 2.6.32-21-generic i don't know when and how .... is it safe? thanx
[19:02] <Guest37383> salam
[19:02] <heywood> jcabo_: sweet -- thanks. if i read it right, there's no harm in blowing away the host keys -- i'll just get the prompt to add the public side upon first connection. but if i don't create sshd_config.bak, the entire /etc/ssh gets deleted.
[19:02] <Arvendu> Thanks :D
[19:03] <Guest37383> :)
[19:03] <isaias> Argo: Mac was made using linux, so it shouldn't be a problem for it to work. I don't recommend using an usb drive due to the small amount of memory. External HDD would work best. Or a dualboot would work alright though
[19:03] <Guest37383> k********
[19:03] <jcabo_> heywood: I dunno, but I hope it has been helpful to you
[19:03] <heywood> jcabo_: maybe i'll have my friend do a "cp /etc/ssh/sshd_config ~/sshd_config.bak" -- so i keep a reminder of what i did for the configs, but allow the remove/uninstall -purge to proceed cleanly.
[19:03] <biglinux-buddha> opa!!!
[19:04] <isaias> Argo: and the speed. Ubuntu would run slow because of usb
[19:04] <heywood> jcabo_: yes, that's been extremely helpful. thanks!!
[19:04] <jcabo_> heywood: you're welcome!!
[19:04] <ClientAlive> need it to run the cammand like: "scp sender:/path/path/plugInFileName1.tar.gz sender:/path/path/plugInFileName2.tar.gz sender:/path/path/plugInFileName3.tar.gz ./path/to/receiving/"
[19:04] <heywood> cheers all.
[19:04] <ClientAlive> (quotes jsut to offset what I was saying here in irc
[19:05] <Arvendu> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[19:05] <Arvendu> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:05] <Argo> isaias: I'm trying to get it working on a 16 GB generic USB-drive. I followed the instructions here (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx) but I keep getting a "error loading operating system" when rebooting and get to the screen where I can select where I want to boot from.
[19:05] <janisozaur> ClientAlive, and what is the problem? if you know file names you can use bash "echo number{one,two,three}" expansion syntax
[19:05] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: you can only have one apt-get running
[19:05] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: do you have the software centre open?
[19:05] <Threepwood> ClientAlive: did you try a scp `find sourceFolder -name "*tar.gz"` user@host:targetFolder approach?
[19:06] <ClientAlive> janisozaur: well the problem is I don't know bash very well
[19:06] <Threepwood> (backticks are important here)
[19:06] <Arvendu> no
[19:06] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: synaptic?
[19:06] <Arvendu> now command working but pkg not found :S
[19:06] <ClientAlive> Threepwood: that runs the command on the receiver computer not the sender (which is where I would need the result to come from)
[19:07] <W|cKeD> is it safe if i'll do a complete removal in my synaptic package manager bout linux-headers that are installed that i didn't know? i got a linux-header 2.6.32-21-generic but i saw some headers installed and related to 2.6.32-21-generic i don't know when and how .... is it safe? :(
[19:07] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: what package?
[19:07] <janisozaur> ClientAlive, do you know filenames on remote?
[19:07] <Arvendu> now command working but pkg not found :S
[19:07] <Arvendu> sudo apt-get install pppoeconf
[19:07] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: what version of ubuntu?
[19:08] <Arvendu> Think in software center it is showing installed :S
[19:08] <Threepwood> ClientAlive: do you want to execute "scp" on the sender or the receiver side ? (you got ssh, so just login into the receiver if thats a problem)
[19:08] <Threepwood> erm sender i mean
[19:08] <Arvendu> hold one Think m8 i am working ;)
[19:09] <ClientAlive> janisozaur: is transfer files from local to rempte (ie: scp file1.tar.gz file2.tar.gz... /path/on/remote/  So I'm logged into remote having done a "scp remoteName". The files to transfer on local are mixed wtih other filees in the directory but all *.tar.gz are the ones to transfer over.
[19:10] <ClientAlive> *remote*
[19:10] <Arvendu> sudo pppoeconf when i did this command ethernet is not detect ?
[19:11] <janisozaur> ClientAlive, for i in `ssh remote "ls -1 /path/to/*.tar.gz"` ; do scp remote:$i local; done
[19:11] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: do you have an ethernet cable connected?
[19:11] <ClientAlive> ok
[19:11] <ClientAlive> cool
[19:13] <ClientAlive> janisozaur: now ls will put a \n after every file name. Is that a problem? As bash will interpret that as multiple hitting <enter> won't it?
[19:13] <janisozaur> ClientAlive, no, not a problem. see this: "for i in `seq 1 10`; do echo $i; done"
[19:14] <ClientAlive> ok
[19:14] <ClientAlive> thanks man  :)
[19:14] <janisozaur> ClientAlive, np
[19:15] <janisozaur> ClientAlive, just out of curiosity, have you tried this: "scp remote:/path/to/*.tar.gz local" ?
[19:15] <Asshole1> can i flood
[19:15] <ThinkT510> Asshole1: no
[19:15] <ThinkT510> !paste | Asshole1
[19:15] <Asshole1> o
[19:15] <ClientAlive> janisozaur: one last thing. Will it be /path/to*.tar.gz or  /path/to/*.tar.gz
[19:15] <ClientAlive> ??
[19:15] <ClientAlive> the latter right?
[19:16] <BluesKaj> hey Asshole1 , change your nick pls
[19:16] <janisozaur> ClientAlive, yes, the latter. bash does not auto-complete directories like this. you could try zsh, though
[19:16] <ClientAlive> ok
[19:17] <mefistofeles> hey, what's the boot parameter to load vesa generic driver? Ubuntu tries loading with radeon driver and that crashes the computer...
[19:18] <ThinkT510> mefistofeles: you may need to force it by using a xorg.conf
[19:18] <ThinkT510> !xorgconf | mefistofeles
[19:18] <janisozaur> ClientAlive, just checked, "scp remote:/path/to/*.tar.gz local" should work ;)
[19:18] <mefistofeles> ThinkT510: no, for live usb, no system installed yet
[19:19] <ThinkT510> mefistofeles: sorry, no idea
[19:19] <mefistofeles> ThinkT510: ok, no problem
[19:20] <ClientAlive> janisozaur: are you sure this is going the right direction?  Need to transfer files:  local to remote (not other way)
[19:20] <ClientAlive> somehting like:  for i in `ssh duckduckgoose:"ls -1 /home/shine/Downloads/Torrent*.tar.gz"` ; do scp duckduckgoose:$i  /mnt/media/Video/Movies/Mainstream/; done
[19:21] <ClientAlive> but I think then that only the file name will be plugged in on the sending part of the command (not the entire path) as that is written what I pasted
[19:21] <leo__> alguem fala portugues?
[19:21] <ThinkT510> ClientAlive: ssh /path/to/local/file remote@ip:/path/to/put/file
[19:21] <alienaut> hello! what is difference between 32 and 64 bit versions
[19:22] <ThinkT510> alienaut: 32
[19:22] <alienaut> ThinkT510, lol
[19:23] <ThinkT510> alienaut: if you have 64bit processor then there is little reason not to use 64bit
[19:23] <shade34321> I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 via live USB and whenver I try to start up using the live USB I get an error stating that sda doesn't support DPO or FUA.  When I try and boot up using a live CD it just gets past boot from CD screen and hangs. Both the USB and Cd work since I tested it on another system, actually just installed ubuntu on another system using this USB 30 minutes prior. any suggestions on how ot fix this?
[19:23] <Threepwood> ThinkT510: normally it should be 42, but they didnt come to 74 .. yet
[19:23] <marahin> alienaut, for example 64 bit OS cannot into >4GB RAM.
[19:23] <janisozaur> ClientAlive, oh, if local -> remote, then "scp /local/path/to/*.tar.gz remote"
[19:23] <Gavilan3> what's the best IM for MSN + Gmail?
[19:23] <Gavilan3> Gtalk
[19:24] <Gavilan3> which can also check how many mails you currelty have in your email account
[19:24] <ClientAlive> ok
[19:24] <alienaut> oh. why 32 bit version is recommended on download page of ubuntu desktop?
[19:24] <ThinkT510> alienaut: in case the person doing the download doesn't know which processor they have
[19:25] <ozy> i'm trying to boot ubuntu off a usb stick, and all I get is some goofy icon at the bottom of the screen for a whie. It looks like a 'movie' icon, a dash, and then a person spread eagle with a cricle around it. After a while. it goes to a flashing underscore at the top left of the screen and does nothing else...
[19:25] <marahin> alienaut, because 32 bit version works on both 64 supporting CPUs, and thom which don't
[19:25] <ThinkT510> alienaut: 32bit will work on both
[19:25] <BluesKaj> alienaut, , that's only if you're unsure of the architecture
[19:25] <alienaut> thanks guys!
[19:25] <agarwood> hi, i installed 12.04 and every days I have freeze...
[19:26] <ozy> this hardware is a little goofy, and I know I have to add boot options to grub, but I am not even getting that far...
[19:26] <alienaut> 14.04 is next LTS am i right?
[19:26] <izzydojo> anyone have knowledge about dell poweredge and installing server edition ?
[19:26] <SwedeMike> alienaut: yes.
[19:27] <Threepwood> waht about 13.04 ?
[19:27] <ThinkT510> alienaut: yes
[19:27] <ThinkT510> Threepwood: a regular release
[19:27] <Threepwood> ThinkT510: k
[19:28] <ThinkT510> Threepwood: lts's are released every 2 years
[19:30] <izzydojo> what is a good ubuntu form that i can post a question on that will get alot of eyes ?
[19:30] <ThinkT510> !forum | izzydojo
[19:30] <izzydojo> i need info on weather or not a sever edition is the problem im having
[19:31] <izzydojo> i have a power edge server i installed the latest release and it loads fine one time then cant seem to load the second time
[19:31] <nick_h> in /etc/apt/sources.list , is "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal main restricted universe multiverse" the same as 4 copies of "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal X", where "X" is "main", "restricted", "universe", and "multiverse"?
[19:31] <shade34321> I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 via live USB and whenver I try to start up using the live USB I get an error stating that sda doesn't support DPO or FUA.  When I try and boot up using a live CD it just gets past boot from CD screen and hangs. Both the USB and Cd work since I tested it on another system, actually just installed ubuntu on another system using this USB 30 minutes prior. any suggestions on how to fix this?
[19:31] <jrib> nick_h: yes
[19:31] <nick_h> jrib: thanks, mate
[19:32] <ozy> i must be doing something wrong . I get ubuntu 12.10 to boot off a usb, hit f6 to add numa=off, apci=off and pci=lastbus=255, and hit enter, and ubuntu doesnt even try to boot, it just freezes
[19:32] <michal_> hi
[19:32] <ozy> wait.... it's just insanely slow. I waited until I was sure it was froze, typed out that last message, and the screen changed right as I hit send
[19:33] <GeekSquid> ozy: you might want to remove quiet and add nosplash so you can see what it is doing
[19:33] <ozy> ah, it finally booted
[19:33] <shadej> anybody who knows how to make a program to run as root at startup
[19:33] <ozy> once I get it up, this is a headless box (cyanogenmod 10.1 build box, hopefully) so it wont matter
[19:34] <jrib> shadej: what program?
[19:34] <ClientAlive> janisozaur: can you please see my pm to you?
[19:34] <GeekSquid> ozy: android device? interesting
[19:35] <shade34321> jrib:  are you talking to me?
[19:35] <jrib> shade34321: no
[19:35] <shade34321> mmk
[19:35] <ozy> GeekSquid: the only guides for building cyanogenmod use ubuntu, so I figure I ought to start there.
[19:36] <jrib> shade34321: you can try the minimal installer and select ubuntu desktop
[19:36] <datsmoida> you guys have any idea about after i upgraded ubuntu to 12.04 mysql is running properly but i cannot log in to phpmyadmin
[19:36] <jrib> shade34321: also, you should actually verify the contents of the cd (it's an option somewhere when you boot from the cd/usb)
[19:37] <shade34321> jrib:  ok, I'll try that first
[19:38] <jrib> shade34321: I don't actually know anything about the error that you mentioned; I'm just suggesting things to try
[19:38] <GeekSquid> ozy: you build in adb, (really offtopic) ...  there is room #Cyanogenmod with 430 people in it
[19:39] <shade34321> jrib:  lol, the only reason why I haven't verified the contents is because I just used it and they worked but it can't hurt to check it.
[19:40] <Mathias> possible to have user-based /etc/hosts?
[19:42] <GeekSquid> Mathias: Normally users would have a public_html folder in their home. and apache user location shows up as www.site.com/~username
[19:43] <Mathias> GeekSquid: that's not what i want, i just want aliases for ip's on a user basis
[19:43] <Physicist> I get an old computer and tryed install ubuntu. The system is an i686 - is that the same than i386? I have to download an ISO image i386?
[19:44] <Arvendu> how can i connect windows server ?
[19:44] <ThinkT510> Physicist: i386 will work on i686
[19:44] <ThinkT510> !samba | Arvendu
[19:44] <Mathias> oh yeah, is it possible to mount a nfs-share on a specific network?
[19:44] <Arvendu> i do not want to transfar files just want to connect using remote desktop
[19:45] <Physicist> ThinkT510, Thank you! I just would like to know that. I will download the image!
[19:45] <ozy> GeekSquid: i'm planning on following this guide to get it to compile at least once : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37155072, then I might switch to trying to get it to work with rhel or fedora (my usual distro)
[19:45] <ThinkT510> !vnc | Arvendu
[19:45] <Physicist> ThinkT510, One more thing: 32 or 64?
[19:46] <sn0wman> can someone solve this http://www.reddit.com/r/tipofmytongue/comments/189egz/tomt_please_help_video_ancient_aliens_religion/
[19:46] <ThinkT510> Physicist: if you know its only i686 then you have to use 32bit
[19:46] <DeadWeas1l> I need help.  I've been fighting packet loss like crazy on my wifi.  ubuntu 12.04, RTL8187 drivers, on an alfa AWUS036h.
[19:46] <DeadWeas1l> 73% this ping to google.com
[19:46] <Physicist> ThinkT510: Thank you!
[19:46] <Arvendu> any other app ?
[19:47] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: i've used teamviewer but it isn't open source
[19:48] <Arvendu> remote desktop viewer ?
[19:49] <ThinkT510> !vnc | Arvendu
[19:49] <ThinkT510> hmm, ubottu may be broke
[19:49] <Mathias> ThinkT510: it got tired and went to bed
[19:50]  * mandoguit starts digging grave
[19:50] <Mathias> i think it's going to ping out soon
[19:50] <GeekSquid> ubottu responds really slowly
[19:50] <Sendoushi> guys... i'm using ubuntu server under vm on a macbook pro and trying to get the right keyboard. portuguese macbook pro keyboard layout. anyone help?
[19:53] <jorge> h
[19:53] <FihuFil> hi
[19:59] <Guest5473> I have a server that reports "/dev/xvda1 will be checked for errors at next reboot".  I've set "tune2fs -c -1 /dev/xvda1".  Do I need to do anything else to prevent it actually performing a check on next reboot?
[19:59] <Noskcaj> does anyone know what happened to the ultimate edition website?
[20:01] <gueriLLaPunK>  How do I make it so when I type sudo <cmd> that I dont have to keep typing my password? I has 12.04
[20:01] <ThinkT510> Noskcaj: we don't keep track of unsupported ubuntu offshoots here
[20:02] <kantlivelong> anyone here using kernel 3.5 with a Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty? Was wondering if it worked yet..
[20:02] <Noskcaj> ThinkT510, ok :(
[20:02] <ThinkT510> gueriLLaPunK: i would advise against doing that
[20:04] <ampd_> where did my soldering iron go? i've been looking for it for the past hour
[20:05] <kantlivelong> gueriLLaPunK: add "USERNAMEHERE   ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL" to /etc/sudoers   but as ThinkT510 said, its not recommended
[20:06] <Steevca> Hi,i know this is not the place to ask,and i apologize. But can someone help me to transfer a boot.img via fastboot to my phone. I am not getting any answers on #android-root and i need this fast.
[20:06] <Steevca> I apologize again.
[20:06] <gueriLLaPunK> thank you very much, kantlivelong
[20:06] <kantlivelong> Steevca: not the channel for it at all :)
[20:06] <GeekSquid> gueriLLaPunK: better way sudo -i
[20:06] <kantlivelong> indeed sudo -i
[20:07] <gueriLLaPunK> ah i see
[20:07] <gueriLLaPunK> switches me to root
[20:07] <Steevca> kantlivelong yes i know,but i need this fast. And i know that there are some linux developers that can help me.
[20:07] <Steevca> I am asking on a few chanells right now,and not getting help. :/
[20:07] <Steevca> This sucks.
[20:07] <yeik> I recently have had weird issues when I am using ssh keys into my linux box. the first session will deny the private key and ask for a password. all other sessions accept the private key and connect me.
[20:07] <ThinkT510> Steevca: doesn't make this channel android support
[20:07] <Steevca> Ok,nevermind.
[20:08] <kantlivelong> andriod handles its boot differently than regular x86.
[20:08] <Terry> I've recently moved from Windows 7 to Ubuntu which I just down loaded and beginning to learn.  I was using PopPeeper for my few Gmail accounts,but I see it is not supported in Ubuntu with out Wine.  Googled it and "Mail Notification" come up.  Can anyone walk me through down loading and installing - Please!
[20:09] <DeadWeasel> What is acceptable packet loss for wifi that is one 10 ft away through a ceiling?
[20:09] <DeadWeasel> i ahve a great strong signal, but I'm getting packet loss
[20:09] <Mathias> Terry: why don't you use thunderbird? :)
[20:09] <kostkon> Terry, which version of ubuntu
[20:09] <DeadWeasel> starts small, then grows
[20:09] <DeadWeasel> 12.04
[20:09] <GeekSquid> Terry: ubuntu has built in Gmail notification, you may not be able to use poppeeper but ubuntu has a solution
[20:09] <kunji> DeadWeasel: 0%
[20:09] <kantlivelong> Terry: you mean this? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/email-notification-in-ubuntu-popper
[20:09] <DeadWeasel> kunji: that's what I thought.
[20:09] <Terry> Don't use Thunderbird because most of my accounts have been with Gmail for years
[20:10] <DeadWeasel> I just rebooted, which helps at first, but them my wifi becomes unusable.
[20:10] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: depends on driver..
[20:10] <DeadWeasel> 12.04 x64, RTL8187 drivers for a Alfa awus036h
[20:10] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: some wifi drivers are a bit buggy
[20:10] <DeadWeasel> my windows laptop does not have this issue
[20:10] <Terry> I'm using the lastest download...12.XX
[20:11] <GeekSquid> Terry: thunderbird is a client, just like poppeeper, it accesses multiple email accounts, including gmail and notifies you when email comes in
[20:11] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: RTL 8187, are those bugging with ALFA awus036h?  Icouldn't find anything googling
[20:11] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: i did read it can help to install aircrack and use their drivers
[20:11] <kantlivelong> i have the same alfa and had issues years ago.. not sure about recent kernels.
[20:12] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: might be a nightmare to use theirs :)
[20:12] <DeadWeasel> probably. kantlivelong
[20:12] <freshmint> hi is there any option let the unity-lens-file use the shell command locate for finding any file in my root tree
[20:12] <Terry> OK....That answers most of my question for now....I will down load Thunderbird and see what I can do...thanks,
[20:12] <escott> yeik, for encrypted home you have to move the keyfile outside of the $HOME
[20:12] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: sometimes I have Zero loss
[20:12] <DeadWeasel> but other i get 80%
[20:13] <DeadWeasel> or more
[20:13] <kantlivelong> hmm i cant find anything i about Core3D from creative on 3.5.. other than it was planned
[20:13] <ekaj> Triyng to apt-get in Ubuntu 12.10, keep getting "W: Failed to fetch http://URL" - something wicked happened resolving 'security.ubuntu.com:http' )-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[20:13] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: router is wrt54gs running tomato
[20:13] <GeekSquid> Terry: let me save you some time, don't download thunderbird, apt-get it.... "sudo apt-get install thunderbird"
[20:13] <ThinkT510> Terry: thunderbird should already be default, no need to download it
[20:13] <kunji> DeadWeasel: Hmm, the Hak5 forums might have some info, as I know they like to use alfa's, not sure which models though
[20:13] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: wow thats old router :)
[20:13] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong:  I thought about that, it's passed a lot of packets, should I just upgrade
[20:14] <DeadWeasel> ?
[20:14] <Terry> So is apt-get on the desk top?
[20:14] <DeadWeasel> it could be hardware, but it doesn't happen on other machines
[20:14] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: ^
[20:14] <kunji> DeadWeasel:Also have you checked ping from just the router out?
[20:14] <ThinkT510> !software | Terry
[20:14] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: if your lazy and have the money to spare just buy a wifi card with more support
[20:14] <kunji> DeadWeasel:I recently had a case where just one machine was getting about 15% packet loss, oddly enough rebooting my modem is what fixed it
[20:14] <DeadWeasel> not sure how on tomato router.  let me look that up.  kantlivelong
[20:14] <yeik> escott, it shouldn't be encrypted as I always have screen sessions up, so it isn't the first login, just first session from that device (like my phone, if rebooted and connecting back via ssh)
[20:15] <DeadWeasel> kunji: rebooting sets me straight for a while.  although I reboote dthis time and had 22% loss, now Im' at 0% loss.   weird
[20:15] <Terry> Book marked that and will give it look...thanks
[20:16] <kunji> DeadWeasel: Right, I know you tried rebooting the comp, but also try the router and the modem
[20:16] <W|cKeD> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1634201/ <[20:16] <DeadWeasel> oh, the router, brainfart, thanks.  I will do that when this connection gets bad.  I'm watching my packet loss right now.
[20:17] <DeadWeasel> anyone know a good command to measure packet loss?
[20:17] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: ping
[20:17] <kantlivelong> lol
[20:17] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: ping w/ flood option is good too
[20:17] <DeadWeasel> ping is what I was doing, but I have to stop and start it repeatedly, I'll loook up flood
[20:18] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: ^
[20:18] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: mtr
[20:18] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: <3 mtr
[20:18] <DeadWeasel> so put in mtr <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:18] <DeadWeasel> or external I p?
[20:19] <DeadWeasel> whoa, that's a sweet tool!  kantlivelong
[20:19] <DeadWeasel> thanks!
[20:19] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: everytime im on a windows pc i cringe when i have to use ping/tracert
[20:20] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: no doubt.  so glad I'm not doing IT anymore!
[20:20] <Taylr0x> Good evening all.
[20:20] <tomv_> I think this is a quickie.. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04.  when I search for a file from the unity dash, I can see the file, but I can't figure out how to open the containing folder, or learn where it is located...
[20:21] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: eh ive moved up from user support and just talk to servers all day.. the servers dont say mean things ;)
[20:21] <ACubed10> what's up everyone
[20:21] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: and they don't give you the stinkeye when you are helping them  :)
[20:21] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: hehe...
[20:22] <mathias__> Hello guys, I got a problem with my microphone under ubuntu 12.04
[20:22] <mathias__> It keeps picking up every sound on my computer
[20:22] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: from the supported hardware page:  Support for encrypted wireless during installation is currently limited to WEP.
[20:22] <mathias__> let's say I'm in a skype call and watch a youtube clip at the same time. the people in the conversation will hear EXACTLY what I'm listetning to
[20:22] <XATRIX> Hi guys, how can i start proprietary driver installation utility from console ?
[20:22] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: WPA, I recall reading something on that, has issues
[20:23] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: ah... well if your in a secluded area WEP isnt too bad :P
[20:23] <DeadWeasel> I guess I could do wep and do MAC filtering?  kantlivelong
[20:23] <gelph> mathias__ put headphones on is the only real answer
[20:23] <GeekSquid> XATRIX: gksudo jockey-gtk
[20:23] <kunji> tomv_: Hmm, in 12.10 you can right click it and there is an option to "Show in folder" but I think there were changes to the dash from 12.04 to 12.10, so I guess I'm not sure
[20:23] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: i wouldnt recommend that.. anyone that hacks WEP knows mac filtering is a joke :)
[20:24] <DeadWeasel> oh yea, mac spoofing
[20:24] <DeadWeasel> balls
[20:24] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: just grab another wifi card
[20:24] <DeadWeasel> but i don't think WPA is supported in general
[20:24] <tomv_> kunji: cool.  does not work in 12.04 -- I was surprised to see no options when I right click.
[20:24] <DeadWeasel> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/hardware-supported.html
[20:24] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel:.. i use WPA2 daily on various card w/o issues
[20:24] <bekks> DeadWeasel: Correct. WPA is deprecated too. USe WPA2 at least.
[20:24] <tomv_> kunji: glad they fixed that in 12.10.
[20:24] <kantlivelong> dunno if its just WPA
[20:24] <kunji> mathias__: using speakers right?  I would recommend using headphones for that.
[20:25] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: Support for encrypted wireless during installation is currently limited to WEP.
[20:25] <DeadWeasel> WEP only supported  :(   lame
[20:25] <kantlivelong> during install.. oh heh
[20:25] <gelph> WEP can be broken in 56 seconds
[20:25] <joshu> Is there a way to make an ubuntu install into a "firmware"? in other words it would be updated remotely and some mechanism in place in case the update goes wrong
[20:25] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: pretty sure ive used WPA2 on install
[20:26] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: there are a couple of unsecure networks I can see, so I won't be low hanging fruit.
[20:26] <yeik> DeadWeasel, kantlivelong, another option is a second ssid that is free, but give it limited access or one of those payment features with ads. nobody needs to hack wep if you have free wifi.
[20:26] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: I'm using it right now.  but it's the only thing I can point to for my packet loss...
[20:26] <bekks> joshu: Which has nothing to do with a "firmware" - and you could just restore a backup when something goes wrong.
[20:26] <Taylr0x> How do you stop xchat from joining that debian channel upon startup?
[20:26] <kantlivelong> yeik: people arent always hackng wifi for free wifi :P
[20:26] <bekks> Remove that channel from your favorites.
[20:27] <DeadWeasel> yeik: maybe, i'll think about that.
[20:27] <Taylr0x> Brilliant, thank you bekks
[20:27] <joshu> bekks: but if the ubuntu desktop install is in a remote location it is not as simple as that
[20:27] <bekks> joshu: As long as SSH is still reachable, it is that easy.
[20:27] <GeekSquid> kantlivelong: more like free credit card numbers, but I wouldn't know anything about that
[20:27] <yeik> kantlivelong, no, it is a big portion. and if you are worried about access to your computers, segragated networks and vpn/ssh tunnels
[20:27] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: MTR has sent 500 packets, 16 IPs for google.com, AVG is 5% loss
[20:27] <tomv_> kunji: I figured it out, just go back t to basic nautilis for 12.04, kinda lame.  Windows 7 is better.  Glad they fixed it in 12.10
[20:28] <kunji> tomv_: Yeah, nautilus is pretty nice in my opinion though.
[20:28] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: any loss when hitting your router?
[20:29] <Taylr0x> bekks, do you know where you find your favourite lists? I cant seem to find it.
[20:29] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: great q, checking now.  not yet.
[20:29] <tomv_> kunji: Much slower, does not seem to have access to the same index that dashboard uses to quickly find the file.
[20:29] <joshu> bekks ok perhaps i'll give some more detail explaining what i'm looking to do. i'm thinking of creating an ubuntu os thin client which will be read-only e.g. no user information is stored locally. this would be deployed via a livecd which is installed locally on a user's computer.
[20:29] <DeadWeasel> i'll keep an eye on it kantlivelong
[20:29] <pasquale> !ciao
[20:29] <DeadWeasel> uh oh, 12% loss  kantlivelong
[20:29] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: if no loss to your router than its not the wifi
[20:29] <pasquale> !list
[20:29] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: then its da wifi
[20:30] <joshu> management in terms of updating the contents of the local install and any configuration changes would take place remotely from some form of management server
[20:30] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: since other machines are ok, it's the ubuntu non-support for WPA then?
[20:30] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: or the card driver
[20:30] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: should I try another RTL driver?  like 8169?
[20:31] <yeik> DeadWeasel, best way to test, is to turn off WPA for a few minutes and try it out
[20:31] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: to buy or one you have?
[20:31] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: yeik yeah that works too for a quick test :P
[20:31] <kunji> DeadWeasel:WPA works for me, I would think it's the driver for that particular card
[20:31] <ACubed10> who is ready for the walking dead tonight?
[20:31] <pasquale> !ciao
[20:31] <DeadWeasel> kunji: ,kantlivelong , yeik --  I will try that now.  BRB
[20:31] <DeadWeasel> thanks!
[20:32] <kunji> ACubed10: isn't that for ubuntu-offtopic :P
[20:32] <Taylr0x> ACubed10, does that restart tonight?
[20:32] <Kazzzbar> anyone know how to get flash 11.3 to work in chromium or firefox?
[20:32] <pasquale> !list
[20:32] <joshu> bekks did my explanation make any sense
[20:32] <ACubed10> Taylr0x yes
[20:33] <pasquale> !ciao
[20:34] <pasquale> !mario
[20:34] <pasquale> !list
[20:36] <pasquale> !ciao
[20:36] <rusfus_> hi!!
[20:36] <rusfus_> there 'someone willing to help me with a network problem between two pc? I have basically installed the package "openssh-server" typing "sftp :/ /<EMAIL_ADDRESS>from a window of nautilus opens the connection, asks for my psw 2 or 3 times and then tells me it can not open the connection from the server. how can I fix it? pls help me!
[20:36] <pasquale> !list
[20:37] <DJones> pasquale: This channel is about Ubuntu support, piracy isn't appropriate on the network
[20:37] <redtape-renegade> Just as I was about to buy an Ubuntu TV RL70 .. I got this message ... https://dl.dropbox.com/u/55128914/Attachments%20Email%20Xchat/Ebay%20Importantion%20Alert%20Feb%27%202013png.png
[20:38] <pasquale> !ciao
[20:38] <escott> rusfus_, sftp :/ / xxx what is with all the spaces?
[20:39] <h-tech> anyone using xchat? when i minimize it to tray i cannot get it to open the previous window, it instead open a new instance of xchat
[20:39] <pasquale> !help
[20:39] <GeekSquid> rusfus_:  try from the nautilus file menu 'connect to server'
[20:40] <Kazzzbar> How do i install flash plugin 11.3, adobe says 11.2 is the last version?
[20:40] <imacake> Hii,
[20:40] <Taylr0x> h-tech, how are you minimising it? Clicking the tray icon once to hide and once again to reshow?
[20:40] <imacake> Any IRC channels for help with GNU make?
[20:40] <h-tech> Taylor, no i press x and then it say "you want to minmize to tray" or "exit xchat"
[20:40] <Taylor> Okay
[20:41] <h-tech> Sry meant to send that to  Taylr0x
[20:41] <Taylr0x> h-tech, clicked on minimise to tray and then clicked on the tray icon once and it seems to be opening fine for me with no new session.
[20:42] <OerHeks> Kazzzbar,  current is  11.2 r202 and 11.3 does not exist.
[20:42] <h-tech> Taylr0x, are you using unity?
[20:43] <Kazzzbar> @oerHeks..website im trying to access says i need to install flash 11.3..is there a way around this? im running 11.2
[20:43] <Taylr0x> h-tech, No, sorry. xfce
[20:43] <bekks> Kazzzbar: No.
[20:44] <OerHeks> Kazzzbar, what website?
[20:44] <rusfus_> GeekSquid he procedure that is "terminal ---> nautilus ----> CTRL + L ----> sftp :/ /<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:44] <h-tech> Taylr0x, Hm, have to check with someone using Unity then, thanks for your time
[20:44] <Kazzzbar> @bekks, break my<EMAIL_ADDRESS>learning language site
[20:45] <ozy> i'm trying to boot ubuntu 12.10 with an older nvidia card -- and it keeps freezing on boot whne it tries to load the gui -- and it spamms messages about the nouvue driver timing out -- how do I blacklist novuea and install the proprietary driver from the commandline?
[20:46] <bekks> rusfus_: Why do you have all that whitespaces there?
[20:46] <rusfus_> escott I have to try and if I do it with?
[20:46] <Sendoushi> guys... how can i get inside the cd through the console?
[20:47] <compdoc> Sendoushi, you mean access the files on the cd?
[20:47] <Sendoushi> yes
[20:47] <compdoc> have to mount it
[20:47] <OerHeks> Kazzzbar, i checked for you, http://classroom.livemocha.com/sample-classes/ works all great with current 11.2
[20:47] <Sendoushi> i think it is mounted by the parallels
[20:47] <Sendoushi> which is the vm i'm using
[20:47] <alami> any one can tell one why i can't find irssi silc client package
[20:48] <rusfus_> bekks sorry spaces and an error of copy and paste
[20:48] <compdoc> well, if it is mounted, you need to find where
[20:48] <Sendoushi> how can i do that?
[20:48] <rusfus_> escott sorry spaces and an error of copy and paste
[20:48] <Sendoushi> ls and dir don't give me nothing
[20:48] <Sendoushi> it's like... it is empty
[20:48] <compdoc> is the cd named?
[20:48] <Sendoushi> home, root... empty
[20:48] <GeekSquid> rusfus_: seems to work for me connecting to a couple of servers
[20:49] <Sendoushi> from what i know is an iso named prl-tools-lin.iso
[20:49] <Sendoushi> no more info :s
[20:49] <Kazzzbar> OerHeks, i will reinstall flash, maybe something isnt right or disabled. Thanks for your help
[20:50] <rusfus_> GeekSquid In fact, it seems that it works, asks the psw 2 or 3 times and then says that should not be
[20:50] <dniMretsaM> I'm currently learning a little bit of OpenGL with C++, but when I try to compile (using the -lGL flag) I get this: "undefined reference to `_glapi_tls_Dispatch'"  I searched Google and didn't find any solutions, so what should I do
[20:50] <GeekSquid> rusfus_: seems like you have  the wrong password, or
[20:51] <GeekSquid> rusfus_: or idk
[20:51] <rusfus_> GeekSquid idk???
[20:51] <compdoc> Sendoushi, try:     mount|grep ^'/dev'
[20:51] <GeekSquid> rusfus_: txt spk .... idk = I don't know
[20:52] <rusfus_> GeekSquid the psw is correct
[20:52] <Sendoushi> awkward code compdoc
[20:52] <Sendoushi> just done cd dev
[20:52] <Sendoushi> done ls and i see there the cdrom
[20:52] <Sendoushi> but cant get inside
[20:52] <rusfus_> GeekSquid ok!
[20:53] <baegle> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1065400 This bug report states that a fix has been released for 12.10, but I am still suffering from the bug. Anyone know what's up with this bluetooth issue?
[20:53] <gueriLLaPunK> what is the name of the...umm... folder viewer in ubuntu 12.04? i use to type thunar and it would open the gui to view files and folders. well i need to do it with the sudo command, but i dunno what comes with gnome. does that make sense?
[20:53] <baegle> Also, I can't signup for a launchpad account and contribute my comments there, launchpad doesn't seem to be working for signups
[20:53] <gueriLLaPunK> i used thunar when i had 9.10 installed with xde, but im using gnome now
[20:53] <trism> gueriLLaPunK: nautilus for gnome, though use gksudo not sudo
[20:53] <gueriLLaPunK> ty
[20:54] <GeekSquid> rusfus_: and you have verified this by terminal: ssh x.x.x.x -luser -ppassword
[20:54] <gueriLLaPunK> i need to add a repo to yum, but what do i end the extension with? .conf?
[20:54] <pasquale> |link
[20:55] <Sendoushi> compdoc: i dunno how i did it but... it's working now
[20:55] <pasquale> !link
[20:55] <escott> GeekSquid, rusfus_ -p is the port. you CANNOT pass the password on ARGV. and doing so it a terrible ide
[20:55] <escott> a
[20:55] <DJones> pasquale: Stop that, this is not a channel for piracy
[20:55] <compdoc> Sendoushi, you are simply amazing
[20:55] <Sendoushi> lol
[20:55] <Sendoushi> just going around folders and such
[20:55] <Sendoushi> and arrived at a point where i had the dev/cdrom
[20:55] <trueneu> Passing password through ARGV? Who would do that?
[20:55] <Sendoushi> and mnt/cdrom
[20:55] <GeekSquid> gueriLLaPunK:  ubuntu doesn't use yum ... use apt it works
[20:55] <ozy> trueneu: mysql?
[20:55] <Sendoushi> after that... just went inside cdrom from mnt
[20:55] <rusfus_> escott then??
[20:56] <GeekSquid> rusfus_: subtract the -ppassword and it will prompt for password
[20:56] <rusfus_> escottwhat should i do??
[20:56] <trueneu> Hm, yeah, right, ozy.
[20:56] <escott> rusfus_, clearly the password is deemed not to be correct. you can monitor the actual handshake and communication with the remote server by doing "ssh -vvv user@host" but (the more v's the more verbose) but it sure sounds like you dont have the right password
[20:56] <gueriLLaPunK> im trying to install this:
[20:56] <rusfus_> GeekSquid ??
[20:56] <gueriLLaPunK> http://www.webmin.com/deb.html
[20:57] <trueneu> Damn Oracle!
[20:57] <GeekSquid> rusfus_: test ssh .... ssh 192.198.x.x -uuser
[20:57] <escott> rusfus_, just try "ssh -v user@host" and it will prompt you for the password
[20:57] <ozy> trueneu: haha -- that's a legacy stupid decision, though, predating oracle
[20:58] <gueriLLaPunK> i get to the part where i added the repos and when i do apt-get update, i get " Failed to fetch" on the repos i just added
[20:58] <rusfus_> GeekSquid escott I try
[20:58] <GeekSquid> gueriLLaPunK: webmin is depricated in ubuntu, what are you trying to do?
[20:58] <SonikkuAmerica> gueriLLaPunK: Do you require outside (e.g. web) authentication?
[20:58] <trueneu> ozy, I know... Just play along a bit please :)
[20:58] <gueriLLaPunK> oh it is? well i had it installed when i had 9.10. i guess i was using ubuntu server then
[20:59] <onitaL> !virtualbox
[20:59] <gueriLLaPunK> but im on 12.04, so i thought it would be nice to have?
[20:59] <ozy> so, um.. I just installed ubuntu -- what's the 'ubuntu' name for sshd? I'm trying to start it so I can connect from another machine, and neither service ssh start, nor service sshd start works..
[20:59] <gueriLLaPunK> openssh server
[20:59] <unheeding> ozy: you have to install openssh-server
[20:59] <seferis> Hi! I've just installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. So far so good. But I dont know why my second screen has the same Launcher bar as my first screen. Can this be removed?
[21:00] <ozy> seriously, unheeding? this *IS* linux... ought to be installed by default...
[21:00] <kunji>  seferis: yes, it can
[21:00] <ozy> thanks, though
[21:00] <seferis> kunji: can you please explain a little on how to achieve that?
[21:00] <LanaMay> Can someone please explain the diff between :::22, <IP_ADDRESS>:22, and <IP_ADDRESS>:22 is?
[21:01] <DeadWeasel> Ok, I rebooted the modem and router, then I changed the attenae back to the small one on my ALFA wirless card, now when I try to reconnect to my network the "CONNECT" button is red and won't allow me to click it!  kantlivelong kunji
[21:01] <DeadWeasel> I'm on neighbors unsecured
[21:01] <GeekSquid> seferis: unity doesn't look right on 2 screens ... install gnome-desktop-environment and you will have a better desktop... when you log in click session and click gnome classic
[21:01] <kunji> seferis: Click on the gear in the upper right, go to system settings, then to Displays, I believe there should be an option in there for it
[21:01] <escott> LanaMay, <IP_ADDRESS>:22 is port 22 on localhost
[21:01] <SonikkuAmerica> GeekSquid, do you mean gnome-panel?
[21:01] <kunji> seferis: The Launcher placement one
[21:01] <DeadWeasel> Why would the connect button be not clickable?
[21:02] <GeekSquid> SonikkuAmerica: no, I am talking about replacing unity (the default desktop) with gnome (bigger better desktop)
[21:02] <trueneu> LanaMay, second refers to loopback interface, and third refers to all available usually. Not so sure about the first one, looks like some form of IPv6.
[21:02] <bekks> LanaMay: :::22 is IPv6 localhost Port 22, <IP_ADDRESS>:22 is IPv4 localhost port 22, <IP_ADDRESS>:22 is every IPv4 address configured in a system port 22.
[21:02] <escott> LanaMay, ::22 is an ip6 address for something that is all zeros and 22 at the end
[21:02] <SonikkuAmerica> GeekSquid, for what version?
[21:02] <escott> LanaMay, i dont know what :::22 would be
[21:03] <Atum> alooc
[21:03] <seferis> kunji: Aha! That helps a lot! Thank you!
[21:03] <trueneu> Ah, thanks bekks, that's useful about :::22.
[21:03] <GeekSquid> SonikkuAmerica: All versions of ubuntu desktop have the option of gnome
[21:03] <kunji> DeadWeasel: Hmm, I really don't know.  Is this connect button in the dropdown menu for connections?
[21:03] <Tunnelpojken> Hi! Anyone here got any idea of how to remove unity and enable the gnome desktop?
[21:03] <alami> Zero_Chaos: i mean wpa accept only letter and number, and i mean if it's possible to make a dictionary with all possibility of word and letter less or equal to 64
[21:03] <DJones> !nounity | Tunnelpojken
[21:04] <rusfus_> escott GeekSquid practically with "ssh-v<EMAIL_ADDRESS>in terminal it asks me to insert the psw which then tells me it wrong and gives me access denied
[21:04] <pasquale> !link
[21:04] <SonikkuAmerica> GeekSquid, are you talking the transitional package then?
[21:04] <LanaMay> escott: so if i have apache running on 22 on my local host, I have pv4 and pv6 traffic through it? or are each of these different ports
[21:04] <escott> rusfus_, the password is probably wrong
[21:05] <GeekSquid> Tunnelpojken: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment .... then login and when you login click on session.. 2 options gnome classic(which is gnome2) or gnome3
[21:05] <trueneu> Maybe the password is... wrong?
[21:05] <GeekSquid> SonikkuAmerica: the transitional package installs the dependencies
[21:05] <escott> LanaMay, its the same port, just coming over a different ip version
[21:05] <kunji> LanaMay: I think you do, unless you disabled IPv6
[21:05] <Tunnelpojken> GeekSquad! Thanks! :)
[21:06] <rusfus_> escott how do I solve the problem? I is a doubt: but wants psw PC or router?
[21:06] <SonikkuAmerica> GeekSquid: There's a better way to do it in 12.10, if that's what we're dealing with.
[21:07] <Tunnelpojken> Gonna check when the virtual machine get's on, but I believe I got 12.10 atm
[21:07] <LanaMay> escott: and  kunji: thanks so much!
[21:08] <fronc> the remastrer sys wich programe look like it on windows
[21:08] <pasquale> !ciao
[21:08] <escott> bekks, shouldn't it be ::1:22
[21:08] <pasquale> !link
[21:09] <bekks> escott: Oh, thats correct.
[21:09] <escott> bekks, thats still ambiguous... how does one distinguish the port from the ip
[21:09] <kunji> Hmm, where does gnome-network-manager keep it's settings (accessible via terminal)?  Because it doesn't write them to where you would use if not using the network manager (/etc/network/interfaces).
[21:09] <escott> bekks, ::22 would be 0000:0000:0000:0022 right. ::1:22 could be 0000:0000:0001:0022
[21:10] <rusfus_>  escott psw PC and exact, and the only thing that I have set up access automatically when the pc, but to install or uninstall programs that use the pwd and the usual
[21:10] <gueriLLaPunK> I just want to say thanks to everyone in this room for helping me out the past week. I've learned a lot and I appreciate it.
[21:10] <Gavilan2> Any idea why my mouse would work really strange inside ubuntu?
[21:12] <escott> LanaMay, bekks ports in ip6 need to be outside a [] so it should be [::1]:22
[21:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Gavilan2, what kind of mouse is it>
[21:12] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[21:13] <thunkee> hi, is it possible that gnome shell activities doesnt minimize the view of the secondary monitor?
[21:14] <rusfus_> escott How do I change the psw?
[21:14] <Sendoushi> how can i list the packages?
[21:14] <escott> rusfus_, passwd
[21:14] <Arvendu> hello guys why python is taking too much ram :S
[21:15] <kunji> Arvendu: How much is it taking?
[21:15] <yeik> Arvendu, python is a language, is it an IDE that is taking up too much ram, or an application written in python you are running?
[21:16] <Arvendu> somtimes 100 MB and somtimes 200-300
[21:16] <escott> LanaMay, also why do you have apache running on your ssh port?
[21:16] <kunji> yeik: I'm guessing he means IDLE, but I'm not sure
[21:16] <LanaMay> escott: i don't I was using that as an example for conceptual understanding
[21:16] <SonikkuAmerica> No, he means IDE
[21:16] <SonikkuAmerica> !ide
[21:17] <escott> LanaMay, ok. well ::22 is not port 22 on localhost. [::1]:22 is
[21:17] <ozy> after installing from the liveCD, grub doesnt have the correct boot arguments -- it dropped the arguments I added when booting the live CD, and it has the wrong root= option -- where/how do I fix that? /etc/grub2.cfg is not here...
[21:17] <kunji> SonikkuAmerica: Yeah, the python IDE, IDLE  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDLE_%28Python%29
[21:17] <yeik> SonikkuAmerica, IDLE is a python IDE
[21:17] <toperharrier> can anyone tell me what does this xchat-indicator plugin do exactly? Im nt getting any kind of alert or new notification icon besides the one that opens a new xchat app
[21:18] <escott> ozy, /etc/default/grub. then update-grub
[21:18] <rusfus_> escott one thing that I was doing back mentr the installation of ssh. I use xubuntu and nautilus was not installed. and normal? I ask because I touched and install it from the terminal
[21:18] <ozy> escott: ty
[21:18] <SonikkuAmerica> kunji, yeik: OK
[21:18] <escott> rusfus_, xubuntu would not include nautilus. that would be normal for xubuntu
[21:19] <SonikkuAmerica> rusfus_: Xubuntu uses Thunar. Studio, however, uses Nautilus.
[21:19] <onitaL> Hi, how do I tell Ubuntu to build the virtualbox guest modules? only thru command line?. I do have dkms installed, but the kernel headers wasn't installed in the last upgrade
[21:19] <bekks> onitaL: Then you have to use the commandline, yes.
[21:19] <ozy> escott: I dont see how to change the root= option....
[21:19] <yeik> Arvendu, what application is this exactly?
[21:19] <Arvendu> yeik ?
[21:19] <escott> ozy, its in your default grub line. root=UUID=
[21:19] <onitaL> bekks, why only the image was upgraded and not the headers?
[21:20] <LanaMay> escott: netstat -lnptu prints out with the same result.... i have sshd running a listener on all available(<IP_ADDRESS>:22) and the pv6-like one(:::22)
[21:20] <rusfus_> SonikkuAmerica escott can 'be that's why I do not work and I recognize the psw?
[21:20] <yeik> Arvendu, are you using an application or trying to write in python? or you just opened task manager and see a python at 200 mb ram?
[21:20] <Arvendu> yes just task manager and see python
[21:20] <LanaMay> escott: sry i mean same result in zshell and bash shell, not that it would be diff
[21:20] <bekks> onitaL: Because the headers werent installed - so they couldnt be upgraded.
[21:20] <escott> ozy, looks like you have to disable that first if you dont want to use UUID. #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID then GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[21:21] <ozy> escott: I see how to disable the UUID line,
[21:21] <ozy> ah, ok
[21:21] <yeik> Arvendu, ok. What applications do you use on your computer?
[21:21] <escott> rusfus_, no
[21:21] <onitaL> bekks, they were for the kernel before. However, i just noticed linux-headers-generic isn't
[21:22] <escott> LanaMay, ::::22 just seems wrong. i would not interpret that as a port. i would interpret that as 0:0:0:22. netstat probably needs a patch to get ipv6 printout correct
[21:22] <bekks> onitaL: And that package couldnt be upgraded because it wasnt installed.
[21:22] <toperharrier> theres any way to get upbar notifications on new xchat pms or calls in chat (i mean typing my username)?
[21:22] <rusfus_> escott I give up for now thank you.
[21:22] <rusfus_> Hello and good evening
[21:23] <Arvendu> can anyone tell me how to install hexchat?
[21:23] <SonikkuAmerica> There's no apt-get package for it?
[21:23] <yeik> escott, i don't see anything wrong with that for ipv6 ports. although it is a little odd.
[21:23] <AaronMT> sudo apt-get install hexchat
[21:23] <escott> LanaMay, basically that :::22 is very easy to misparse. :: in an ipv6 means fill out to 128 bit with nibbles of 0000
[21:23] <LanaMay> escott: okay, i have a new window manager, that is prob y it looks different
[21:24] <onitaL> SonikkuAmerica, hexchat or xchat?
[21:24] <unheeding> hexchat!?  are you crazy
[21:24] <unheeding> irssi is the only irc client
[21:24] <LanaMay> oo
[21:24] <AaronMT> wrong
[21:24] <bekks> unheeding: Thats not helpful.
[21:24] <SonikkuAmerica> I was talking Hexchat, but I use (and recommend) Xchat.
[21:24] <Arvendu> Reading package lists... Done
[21:24] <Arvendu> Building dependency tree
[21:24] <Arvendu> Reading state information... Done
[21:24] <Arvendu> E: Unable to locate package hexchat
[21:24] <escott> LanaMay, hopefully people will standardize on [ipv6:addr:ess]:port
[21:25]  * yeik uses irssi at times. its a pain
[21:25] <SonikkuAmerica> !flood | Arvendu
[21:25] <onitaL> ohh, excelent. Thanks for showing me hexchat :3
[21:25] <LanaMay> escott: standards are good, but 128 bit address is nonsense right?
[21:26] <LanaMay> escott: so it would not do anything if it was misparsed?
[21:26] <escott> LanaMay, but :::22 is meant to be the same as [::]:22 and that is the same as [0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000]:22 (if i got enough nibbles)
[21:26] <MoPac> Hello - has anybody here successfully dual-booted with Windows able to read/write to an Ubuntu ext4 filesystem?
[21:26] <unheeding> Arvendu: it's not in te repos, looks like you need to add a PPA.  http://handytutorial.com/install-hexchat-in-ubuntu-13-04-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/
[21:26] <yeik> MoPac, I don't think there are currently any drivers to read/write ext4
[21:26] <onitaL> https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/hexchat-stable
[21:27] <unheeding> Arvendu: I don't know why you'd use hexchat though.  Xchat is free on Linux
[21:27] <escott> LanaMay, ipv6 is 128 bit its ipv4 ^ 4th power
[21:27] <yeik> there are some beta ext3 drivers but it isn't suggested. if you need to have files seen between both filesystems, fat32 is suggested.
[21:27] <DeadWeasel> kunji: The connect button is when I select my wifi network and it asks for the password.  I put it in and the connect button is red and unusable.
[21:27] <onitaL> Interesting than the dictionaries is bigger than the execuatlbe XD
[21:27] <toperharrier> theres any way in ubuntu 12.10 to get pm notifications in the upper bar?
[21:28] <MoPac> yeik: My problem is that I have some giant GIS files, so I really need to use ext4 or NTFS, and for speed reasons I'm trying as much as possible to avoid having to have Linux write to a mounted NTFS rather than a native ext4
[21:28] <Arvendu> k plan change stick with xchat:P
[21:28] <LanaMay> escott: oh, a tcpdump will tel me if it is being mis[parsed right?
[21:28] <unheeding> i run irssi on my server and use screen and ssh to keep connected to IRC even if my laptop is turned off :3
[21:29] <rzec> after I set my timezone with : dpkg-reconfigure tzdata : to UTC it automatically changes back to EST.  Is there some else I need to do to change the timezone and keep it that way?
[21:29] <MoPac> I guess then the next question is: is there any better native way now to resize LUKS system partitions, or do I have to in terminal manually resize the filesystem, the dm-crypt, the volume, etc, etc,?
[21:29] <unheeding> rzec: have you tried changing your time zone?
[21:29] <escott> LanaMay, yeik is probably correct that :::22 will be properly parsed as a ip+port by a standards compliant parser... all i can say is that my brain is certainly not standards compliant
[21:29] <arvendu> yo guys i want to connect my windows server how can i connect that ?
[21:29] <bekks> arvendu: How dod you want to connect?
[21:29] <unheeding> arvendu: ssh probably, I dunno.
[21:30] <datsmoida> it's weird how my VPS server the CPU is hardly used but all my programs require enormous RAM
[21:30] <bekks> arvendu: RDP: use rdesktop on port 3389
[21:30] <onitaL> windows server has ssh?
[21:30] <bekks> onitaL: No, not by default.
[21:30] <rzec> unheeding, yes, with dpkg-reconfigure tzdata but it just changes backwithin 10 - 30 seconds
[21:30] <datsmoida> like right now i have a 'half core' or whatever CPU but i have 4GB RAM
[21:30] <arvendu>  rdesktop ?
[21:30] <datsmoida> and i need more RAM, meanwhile CPU is at like 12-20%
[21:30] <LanaMay> escott: k, thanks again!
[21:30] <bekks> arvendu: Yes.
[21:30] <unheeding> rzec: try going into System Settings -> Time and Date
[21:31] <bekks> !info rdesktop > arvendu
[21:31] <yeik> MoPac, there just isn't very good support for ext4 from windows. you can try it with something like ext2fsd. You can write to NTFS from linux though, so i would say you should go with that for best support and least amount of data corruption
[21:31] <bekks> !info rdesktop
[21:31] <rzec> unheeding: I am working with a server
[21:31] <arvendu> k trying bekks
[21:31] <SonikkuAmerica> !studio | Tunnelpojken
[21:32] <Beast1> hi
[21:32] <arvendu> www.rdesktop.org/ right bekks
[21:32] <MoPac> yeik: Understood. My other thought, though, is to try to give as much space to Ubuntu as I can right now, then give some back to Win/ntfs later if needed.  Wondering if resizing my LUKS partition would be a huge pain, though?
[21:32] <bekks> arvendu: sudo apt-get install rdesktop
[21:32] <escott> MoPac, yes
[21:32] <Tunnelpojken> !command
[21:33] <MoPac> escott: Is it just annoying (i.e., you have to resize filesystem, crypt, volume, etc) or is it also dangerous?
[21:33] <jatak> Howdy. Is this the right channel for help?
[21:33] <ozy> how do I fix visudo to use vi? I set EDITOR to /usr/bin/vim and it still looks like it is broken and using nano
[21:33] <unheeding> jatak: yes
[21:33] <escott> MoPac, dangerous in that if you mess it up its all gone. yes
[21:33] <yeik> MoPac, depending on your partitions, it can be a major pain to resize again. I personally have partitions for several different folders, and swap. vs windows that just has 1 partition (windows 7 now includes a 100 mb partition at the beginning for proprietary things)
[21:33] <jatak> Alright, I've got a bit of an annoying problem.
[21:33] <Beast1> I just opened a file browser with gksudo and sent some root owned files to the trash, only now I see that root does not have a Trash at least I can't find it. So where might these files have gone?
[21:34] <onitaL> heh
[21:34] <jatak> In my Unity launcher there are two app icons for a lot of my applications.
[21:34] <jatak> Like, two copies of the same application launcher.
[21:34] <escott> Beast1, you could check /root/.Trash, but they are probably gone
[21:34] <arvendu> yo rdesktop is already installed now ?
[21:34] <MoPac> escott: yeik: Is the resizing procedure at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4530641 the kind of thing that's very safe if you follow the steps, or risks messing it up even if you type the right things?
[21:34] <jatak> So I'm guessing that there's a separate folder somewhere full of binaries or symlinks for my apps.
[21:35] <jatak> But I don't know how to find it.
[21:35] <jatak> How do I find where an app launcher in Unity is linking to?
[21:35] <bekks> jatak: There is no such folder :)
[21:35] <arvendu> beeks rdesktop installed now ?
[21:35] <Beast1> arvendu: There's no .Trash under root on my system
[21:35] <escott> MoPac, if you are resizing without LUKS you have lots of tools that can help and you can often recover if you mess up by just setting up the tables to a conservative setting. once you add LUKS...
[21:35] <bekks> arvendu: I dont know wether you installed it or not.
[21:36] <jatak> bekks: I meant I might have a directory full of symlinks that I've accidentally created or something.
[21:36] <mgodzilla> i'm havin' problems w/ samba b/n a ubuntu 12.04 client and mac osx 10.8.2 client.
[21:36] <bekks> jatak: No, you dont :)
[21:36] <MoPac> I guess I could just decrpyt in place, resize, and re-encrypt?
[21:36] <mgodzilla> from the mac side - error indicates smb version unsupported.
[21:36] <ozy> how do you change the editor used by visudo? it's not honoring the EDITOR environmental variable
[21:36] <jatak> bekks: Do you know what the problem might be then?
[21:36] <trism> jatak: gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites; that's where they are stored, find the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications or ~/.local/share/applications
[21:36] <mgodzilla> what's the preferred method these days - sharin' w/ a mac ?
[21:36] <MoPac> Actually, ignore my above, that's probably a bad idea with my SSD (to decrypt in place)
[21:36] <bekks> jatak: I dont see any problem until now - so whats the actual problem you are experiencing?
[21:37] <jatak> trism: Thanks
[21:37] <escott> ozy, you have to change it for root in /root/.bashrc
[21:37] <jatak> bekks: See here for more info on my problem if you want: http://askubuntu.com/questions/253351/why-are-there-multiple-copies-of-the-same-application-in-the-unity-launcher
[21:37] <neldogz> Anyone have experience setting up OpenVPN?
[21:37] <Beast1> escott: not under usr/local/share either
[21:38] <Beast1> escott: : There's no .Trash under root on my system
[21:38] <ozy> escott: I did
[21:38] <yeik> MoPac, shrinking partitions with encrypted data is complex, as well as expanding it. I am not very familiar with the LUKS encryption but that is usually entire partition/drive and I would suggest if you are going to do anything with resizing, backup all your data.
[21:38] <MoPac> Fallback 3: is there a very user-friendly way to back up all of my Ubuntu OS settings, defaults, filemanager packages, etc so as to easily restore back (I'll have crashplan for actual files)?  I don't know how an image would work if there is a different-size new partition
[21:38] <bekks> arvendu: Please do not contact me outside this channel.
[21:38] <escott> Beast1, sudo takes the safeties off. if you shoot yourself in the foot after that...
[21:38] <Beast1> escott: I guess they're gone for good, which iis not a bad thing.
[21:38] <arvendu> how can i make full screen in rdesktop ?
[21:39] <bekks> arvendu: By starting rdesktop with the option to fullscreen.
[21:39] <escott> MoPac, i would not run LUKS on an SSD. thats going to burn the drive out faster
[21:39] <yeik> MoPac, really that guide looks decent, but there can always be unseen issues. if you are able to clone a drive, or create sufficient backups, you can try it if your restores give minimal downtime for you, it isn't a big deal. if it is critical and you can't make good backups. i would suggest against trying it.
[21:39] <escott> MoPac, and performance is going to suffer.
[21:39] <arvendu> kk
[21:39] <Beast1> escott: Agreed. I just wanted to make sure the files were somewhere taking up space needlessly.
[21:39] <Beast1> escott: weren't
[21:40] <MoPac> escott: Not sure what other high-performance full-disk encryption alternative I have, though
[21:40] <yeik> escott, I must hvae missed where he said ssd.
[21:40] <escott> Beast1, if you dont see it in the gksudo nautilus trash portion its presumably gone, but i always sudo rm for that reason
[21:40] <MoPac> I have been institutionally required to use FDE and agree with the rule...
[21:40] <yeik> MoPac, why do you need full-disk encryption?
[21:41] <MoPac> yeik: Short answer is institutional requirement.
[21:41] <rzec> is there something on ubuntu server that automatically updates the timezone, seems like it keps getting reset every minute of the on the 20th second?
[21:41] <escott> MoPac, if the policy is you have to do it then you have to do it
[21:41] <dmku> escot: Why? There is way to turm on TRIM for LUKS, isn't it?
[21:41] <MoPac> Slightly longer answer is: potentially very sensitive data
[21:41] <Beast1> escott: will do it line command next time
[21:41] <Richturd> I've got a faulty version of Ubuntu
[21:41] <escott> dmku, that would seem a bad idea. if you allow the fact that some block is blank to flow down through encryption layer that leaks information
[21:41] <yeik> MoPac, in linux though, the sensitive files are all in profiles. so unless you are worried about people seeing what programs are installed on the computer, shouldn't be an issue.
[21:42] <Richturd> anyone know how to fix my ubuntu
[21:42] <questo> Hi
[21:42] <bekks> Richturd: Which "faults" do you experience?
[21:42] <escott> dmku, imagine if you wanted to have a deniable hidden encrypted partititon that was unlocked with a different key. well you can't use trim on that disk anymore
[21:42] <questo> Microhphone trouble, all sound in the background get's picked up by the microphone
[21:42] <MoPac> yeik: Yeah, but needing a new SSD is a couple years is actually a lot less frustrating than trying to justify to a bureaucracy that breaking this FDE culture isn't a problem
[21:42] <escott> dmku, because i can tell that you are refusing to trim some blocks which amount to X-gigs
[21:43] <yeik> MoPac, I understand the requirement. I work with HIPPA. SSD drives are very horrible with read/write cycles as well. I have seen them die within a couple months.
[21:43] <MoPac> I've actually been using TrueCrypt with Win7 on this SSD, with it nearly full, for a couple of years with really great results
[21:43] <yeik> MoPac, years would be lucky on a ssd. especially with big files. I am gathering that you are installing linux and windows on this ssd?
[21:43] <Richturd> CAN I GET SOME HELP ABOUT MY UBUNTU
[21:44] <dmku> escott, i have to read more about. Thanks.
[21:44] <escott> !details | Richturd
[21:44] <questo> am I the only one who experienced a performance dipp from 12.04 to 12.10?
[21:44] <yeik> MoPac, you must be lucky. i bought a ssd in November, no encryption. died last month.
[21:44] <trueneu> We use SSDs as hosts for some heavy loaded databases. No faults, half a year. Maybe we'll experience some in future though.
[21:44] <amiu> Richturd,  !ask
[21:44] <amiu> bah
[21:44] <questo> !ask microphone trouble
[21:44] <MoPac> yeik: Indeed. I accept that I might need to replace the drive on short notice: that's okay. What's more important to me is not losing tons of time re-configuring everything when I do have to replace it, or resize the partitions, or whatnot
[21:45] <MoPac> yeik: My files are securely and redundantly backed up -- the annoying would come with needing to reconfigure all my OS settings and everything
[21:45] <yeik> MoPac, so it is going to be backed up then. you are just worried about configurations and partitions?
[21:45] <escott> MoPac, the problem is that encryption is by necessity in opposition to quickly resizing the disk
[21:45] <questo> I have a problem with my microphone, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS atm. The problem I'm having is that my microphone picks up all the background sound from the computer
[21:45] <escott> MoPac, so you better guess correctly about how much you need for linux/windows because its going to be painful if you have to change it later
[21:46] <MoPac> yeik: Right, so if I accept that I might need to wipe my Linux partitions and/or replace the whole disk, and I've got all my actual files backed up perfectly well, then is there an easy tool to back up my OS configuration?
[21:46] <yeik> MoPac, so if you want to have something to easily give to someone. the best option would be to keep something preconfigured without it encrypted. when its changed, change partitions, then encrypt and copy data.
[21:46] <Sendoushi> guys... how can i change display resolution? talking about ubuntu server
[21:46] <questo> For example, if i'm in a skype/teamspeak call and watching a youtube clip at the same time, my microphone then picks upp all the sound from youtube
[21:46] <questo> or whatever media is playing
[21:46] <escott> MoPac, alternately go conservative initially and leave some of the disk unused (this is better for the SSD anyways) you can add an additional encrypted volume to whatever OS needs it later
[21:46] <questo> and sends it to the microphone
[21:47] <Richturd> I am not able to use my mouse pad at all or my keyboards keys are glitchy
[21:47] <questo> Almost like an echo
[21:47] <yeik> MoPac, linux doesn't really need much backup. if you keep a list of software, all the settings per user are stored in the user folder. back that up and restore it and nobody will know any difference.
[21:47] <Richturd> I think Ill need a new version of Ubuntu or something
[21:47] <DeadWeasel> kunji: kantlivelong, Looks like RTL8187L driver is preferable over RTL8187.  You can get it off the Realtek site.
[21:47] <DeadWeasel> down to 2% packet loss
[21:47] <DeadWeasel> can connect to my wifi
[21:47] <questo> Can anyone shed some light on my microphone problem please?
[21:47] <escott> !clone | MoPac
[21:47] <jatak> trism:  Hey, that command you gave me just displays the apps pinned to the Unity sidebar
[21:48] <escott> !info etc-keeper | MoPac
[21:48] <escott> !info etckeeper | MoPac
[21:48] <MoPac> yeik: escott: So there's no equivalent of, say, a Windows system restore point.  But if I tell Crashplan to back up all my OS folders in addition to my user files (with Win you just ignore the OS files), I can easily restore the OS back?
[21:48] <jatak> trism:  I meant there are multiple applications launchers in the Unity launcher thing
[21:48] <escott> MoPac, snapshots in btrfs
[21:48] <jatak> trism:  The "start menu"
[21:48] <kunji> DeadWeasel: Hmm, 2% still isn't good, but at least it's working, and it's much better than what it was.
[21:48] <Richturd> !ask
[21:48] <kunji> DeadWeasel:Thanks for letting us know what happened with that
[21:48] <DeadWeasel> it's holding around 3.3.  kunji
[21:48] <jatak> trism:  The dash is what I meant
[21:49] <DeadWeasel> I'll keep on it.  It was the ALFA awus036h USB wifi card
[21:49] <Richturd> I AM UNABLE TO USE ALL THE KEYS ON MY KEYBOARDS OR MY MOUSE VERY WELL
[21:49] <questo> My microphone picks up all the sound on my computer and sends it through the microphone,
[21:49] <Richturd> SINCE I GOT UBUNTU
[21:49] <escott> MoPac, putting /home on a different partition. the think about open-source is that since the software is free reinstalling isnt such a big deal (you dont have to hunt for disks and license keys)
[21:49] <jatak> Richturd:  How about you turn off caps lock before asking for help.
[21:50] <yeik> MoPac, best thing to do is test it. as long as it does file permissions it shouldn't be an issue. not the best route but easy to do.
[21:50] <Richturd> then someone answer jatak
[21:50] <escott> Richturd, PLEASE DONT YELL. also what does that mean cant use them well?
[21:50] <kunji> !details | Richturd
[21:50] <MoPac> escott: It's not so much the package installs that are such a headache, but all the settings tweaks: it can take me a whole afternoon or a day to get Cinnamon the way I want it, for example
[21:50] <escott> MoPac, backup $HOME
[21:50] <DaemonicApathy> What would be the best way to fix issues resulting from the deletion of /tmp and /var/tmp ?
[21:50] <jatak> Richturd:  If nobody answers, then either you didn't ask the question properly, or nobody here knows the answer
[21:50] <yeik> MoPac, those are stored in the user folder or /home
[21:50] <Richturd> I am unable to use my left clicker or my mouse pad clicker and I cant use all the keys on my keyboards
[21:50] <Richturd> *keyboard
[21:50] <escott> DaemonicApathy, recreate /tmp and /var/tmp and reboot