[08:34] <Da_SWAT> Blissex, hahaha, OK. I'm asking thing because of the use of VNC. Sometimes I want to look at the other screen :P
[08:34] <dcDuncan> Buenas.!
[08:34] <Bad_Magic> i have never installed it
[08:34] <Bad_Magic> that should have step by step instructions tho
[08:34] <P229> is gstreamer-mad in universe or multiverse?
[08:34] <Seveas> multi
[08:34] <mjr_> uni
[08:34] <mjr_> oh?
[08:34] <Seveas> lol :)
[08:34] <zachman121> The odd thing is the CD integrity check passes... it just won't load from the cd correctly
[08:34] <Seveas> probably uni :)
[08:34] <mxpxpod> Moopere: the thing that gets me is that the restricted legacy modules are put in /lib/linux-restricted-modules-{version}
[08:34] <bastijn> can some1 please send me his repos file???
[08:34] <mjr_> and btw, it's gstreamer0.8-mad you probably want
[08:34] <vc> 13
[08:35] <Blissex> Da_SWAT: VNC creates a second _display_ not screen, unless you start it in multi screen mode, in which case it creates a second display with multiple screens...
[08:35] <P229> Seveas: thanks
[08:35] <linner> Arkainium, ok... well that shut me down... using the power button.
[08:35] <vbgunz> Chii_Chan: is it that after the move you have to change file or directory permissions?
[08:35] <Blissex> Da_SWAT: sorry, confusion: it is Xnest, not VNC, that can have multiple virtual screens.
[08:35] <Seveas> P229, thank mjr_ he had the correct info
[08:35] <linner> Arkainium, so... is there another button I can use to mke it go into sleep mode?
[08:35] <Seveas> I was tlaking gibberish
[08:35] <Bad_Magic> anyone have any idea why im getting this error message? FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[08:35] <bastijn> Seveas: can you please send me your repos file???
[08:35] <vbgunz> bastijn: repos file?
[08:36] <ripgut> ANYONE?
[08:36] <Seveas> Bad_Magic, install linux-686 (intel cpu) or linux-k7 (amd
[08:36] <bastijn> yes, my repos are bad i think
[08:36] <Chii_Chan> In order to copy to //usr/share/games/xshipwars/etc/ I need permissions to do so
[08:36] <Seveas> ripgut, breezy or hoary>
[08:36] <vbgunz> what is it? where is it?
[08:36] <ripgut> hoary
[08:36] <Chii_Chan> is there a way I can get permissions and do it in the gui?
[08:36] <bastijn> oh lol wait
[08:36] <Seveas> ripgut, get a hava .deb from ubuntu.tower-net.de
[08:36] <Moopere> mxpxpod, hmm, I'm looking
[08:36] <ripgut> how do i do that
[08:36] <zachman121> Moopere any other ideas for me?
[08:36] <Seveas> you open firefox, go to that site and download it...
[08:36] <vbgunz> Chii_Chan: you can try running Nautilus as a different usr "root" and then try naviagting to it to change permissions...
[08:37] <Arkainium> linner, lol, yep.  you  need to change what it does when you press it
[08:37] <Chii_Chan> kk
[08:37] <Arkainium> linner, by default, as you just saw, the powerbtn shuts the system down.  :)
[08:37] <bastijn> vbgunz: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:37] <vbgunz> oh ok
[08:37] <Moopere> zachman121, ya, its still gonig to be the speed of ther cd
[08:37] <P229> mjr_: thank you :)
[08:37] <Bad_Magic> Seveas: er... duh =P
[08:37] <Moopere> zachman121, open a command line
[08:37] <Chii_Chan> where do i find the program nautilus?  Ive seen it somewhere but cant find it >.<
[08:37] <Arkainium> linner, if you want to be able to put the laptop to sleep.  first edit /etc/defaults/acpi-support and uncomment the line ACPI_SLEEP=true.  if it's not there, add it.
[08:37] <Bad_Magic> Seveas: any idea why i had 386 installed by default? =x
[08:37] <Moopere> what is your cd?  hdb hdc? hdd?
[08:38] <linner> ok
[08:38] <ripgut> that site doesnt have a link to download "it"
[08:38] <vbgunz> bastijn: I am on Breezy
[08:38] <Gobbla_> is it just for me firefox doesent work?
[08:38] <linner> Arkainium, let me give it a shot
[08:38] <Gobbla_> in hoary
[08:38] <ripgut> its in german or something
[08:38] <vbgunz> bastijn: does it make a difference?
[08:38] <Arkainium> linner, wait
[08:38] <linner> ok
[08:38] <bastijn> hmm
[08:38] <vbgunz> Chii_Chan: go to run as different user and just type in Nautilus
[08:38] <bastijn> 5.10?
[08:38] <zachman121> not sure (not it setup now)
[08:38] <Arkainium> linner, after you do that.  you still need to change the behavior of the power button
[08:38] <vbgunz> yes, 5.10
[08:38] <bastijn> vbgunz: 5.10?
[08:38] <bastijn> ok
[08:38] <bastijn> me 2
[08:38] <zachman121> but what should I do from there in the terminal in setup?
[08:39] <Arkainium> linner, you do that by editing /etc/acpi/events/powerbtn so that instead of running powerbtn.sh it runs sleep.sh
[08:39] <Chii_Chan> where is the run as a differnet user?
[08:39] <linner> Arkainium, i just tried to copy one folder to another using sudo, I was given the result that said, "cp: omitting directory `/home/kelley/My Downloads/backgrounds/'
[08:39] <Bad_Magic> Seveas: also how do i go about telling ubuntu to boot the new kernel?
[08:39] <linner> what does that mean?
[08:39] <Moopere> zachman121, make sure you turn off all 'go fast' options in bios - maybe at boottime pass this option to the kernel as well "hdc=nodma" if hdc is your cdrom
[08:39] <Seveas> you reboot :)
[08:39] <bastijn> vbgunz: can u put it on a server or something?
[08:39] <linner> oh okay
[08:39] <vbgunz> bastijn: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2518
[08:39] <zachman121> sure, I'll try that
[08:39] <zachman121> thanks again
[08:39] <linner> Arkainium, let me try that
[08:39] <Arkainium> linner, if you're copying directories you need to add the switch -R for recursive copying
[08:39] <danielG> greetings.  recommend low latency kernel?
[08:39] <linner> oh ok
[08:40] <zachman121> I turned pio down to the lowest setting for the drive but that didn't help either
[08:40] <linner> Arkainium, let me do that one first
[08:40] <bastijn> vbgunz: thnx, im gonna test it, brb
[08:40] <vbgunz> Chii_Chan: have you found it?
[08:40] <ripgut> hello? anyone?
[08:40] <Moopere> zachman121, the boot kernel might be turning this stuff back on - you might need to pass the boot paramter I mentioned ealier
[08:40] <Chii_Chan> How do I do it run as a differnet user?
[08:40] <Seveas> ripgut, http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/dists/hoary/java/binary-i386/
[08:40] <vbgunz> Chii_Chan: it should be under applications > system tools I believe
[08:40] <zachman121> sure
[08:40] <Seveas> ripgut, get the smallest one
[08:41] <vbgunz> bastijn: cool!
[08:41] <Chii_Chan> ty :)\
[08:41] <vbgunz> so you have it now? Good!
[08:41] <ripgut> i did, thanks
[08:41] <linner> Arkainium, it worked... however I thought it would paste OVER the current backgrounds directory so....
[08:41] <linner> Arkainium, how do I delete now and redo?
[08:42] <pratyk> hi
[08:42] <Bad_Magic> Seveas: Any help on changing ubuntu to boot from the 686 kernel now?
[08:42] <Bad_Magic> =x
[08:42] <Arkainium> linner, I don't understand.  what are you trying to do exactly?
[08:42] <bastijn> vbgunz: NL?
[08:42] <linner> Arkainium, well, I'm downloading backgrounds for my desktop... wouldn't originally let me paste it where it's supposed to go  so I made a new directory
[08:42] <vbgunz> bastijn: NL?
[08:42] <flodine> anyone running point2play
[08:43] <vbgunz> bastijn: whats is NL?
[08:43] <P229> mjr_: do you happen to know where libdvdcss lives? I can't seem to find it in universe or multiverse
[08:43] <linner> Arkainium, now I want to paste that directory over the existing directory
[08:43] <bastijn> vbgunz: NL = Holland. I mean, are you from holland?
[08:43] <mxpxpod> Moopere: anything??
[08:43] <linner> so... i need to delete what i just did
[08:43] <sunshine> moorpere the sound was working when i was on windows
[08:43] <mjr_> P229, I got mine from marillat
[08:43] <TC> yes I am NL
[08:43] <Arkainium> linner, to delete a directory, use rm -r dirname
[08:43] <linner> and i'm wondering if I have to do all this from a frickin' command line?  can't i do it as a gui?
[08:43] <linner> ok
[08:43] <vbgunz> bastijn: oh... no I am from FLUS... Florida US
[08:44] <Arkainium> if you want to overwrite something, you can use mv.  so mv dir1 dir2 should work I think.
[08:44] <TC> does anybody know what to do when your root terminal stops working??
[08:44] <mjr_> P229, I think there should be a script /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh that fetches the decss module
[08:44] <Moopere> mxpxpod, I'm having trouble finding the nvidia X module - for sure that error you are getting it because we are using the 'new' module which doesn't support <gf3
[08:44] <P229> mjr_: oh, I'll check that out
[08:44] <pigeon5> hey fellas, I have some mpeg4 avi's I need to get on a DVD to play on a standalone player. any advice?
[08:44] <Slarti-> I am officially astounded, progressing from amazed
[08:44] <selinium> snausages, Welsome back!
[08:44] <linner> i hate all this typing... I want to be able to go to the directory and just delete the damned thing
[08:44] <snausages> thanks selinium =)
[08:45] <selinium> snausages, np
[08:45] <dcDuncan> Buenas... Alguine habla espaol?
[08:45] <Slarti-> ubuntu picked up my usb joypad
[08:45] <Slarti-> w00t
[08:45] <mxpxpod> Moopere: even the legacy module??
[08:45] <danielG> any demudi users?  i've been having so much trouble with it but it has everything i need
[08:45] <bastijn> vbgunz: ooh ok, i thougt your from holland cause the link ended with nl ;)
[08:45] <linner> Arkainium, can i avoid all this typing?  Is there a way I can just log in a superuser or equiv?
[08:45] <Moopere> I don't think the legacy module is being picked up, have to find it - you know where it is in ther filesystem and what its called?
[08:45] <Arkainium> lol, linner.  you could do that if you're running gnome.  unless you're messing around in places you have no permission in.  :P
[08:45] <mxpxpod> Moopere: also, something created a "volatile" directory in my module directory and I can't get rid of it
[08:45] <Seveas> dcDuncan, #ubuntu-es
[08:45] <el_toro> dcDuncan, proba #ubuntu-es
[08:45] <Moopere> mxpxpod, leave it
[08:45] <vbgunz> bastijn: I scrolled all the way up to the top of this list and found the pastebin link...
[08:45] <linner> i'm running gnome
[08:46] <mxpxpod> Moopere: ok... but it's empty
[08:46] <vbgunz> I've got to go... It's been fun everyone, thanks!
[08:46] <dcDuncan> ok. :D
[08:46] <linner> Arkainium, and this is just the frickin' backgrounds folder
[08:46] <linner> :)
[08:46] <linner> Arkainium, can you tell me how to do it?
[08:46] <snausages> can anyone tell me how i can add/enable 32-bit colors? would i have to edit xord.conf ?
[08:46] <snausages> xorg*
[08:46] <Arkainium> linner, it's best to keep stuff like that in your home directory.  after all, that's what it's for.
[08:46] <motoguzzi> hi all, im new to ubuntu and would like to ask what i have to download to play my avi movies in totem. thanks
[08:47] <linner> err...................
[08:47] <ripgut> wow, downloading a 29mb java file on a 128k connection just blows
[08:47] <linner> Arkainium, just humor me... please tell me how to do it? :)
[08:47] <Arkainium> linner, then you can use the "add wallpaper" button in the gnome desktop background preferences
[08:47] <bastijn> vbgunz: oki :)
[08:47] <linner> I know...
[08:47] <linner> Arkainium, i did that last night... it bugs me having two folders for it... just a personal thing
[08:48] <pigeon5> anyone on here good with burning video to dvd?
[08:48] <mxpxpod> Moopere: ok, this is strange... now if I try to modprobe nvidia, it tells me the module is missing
[08:48] <Bad_Magic> Well... can anyone help me switch over from the 386 kernel to 686 kernel?
[08:48] <Arkainium> linner, *shrug* you really should have to add it to the default gnome directory.  but if that's what you want, cp * /gnome/backgrounds/directory.  you'd do that in the directory where all your custom backgrounds are saved.
[08:49] <Seveas> Bad_Magic, apt-get install linux-686
[08:49] <Seveas> reboot
[08:49] <Seveas> done
[08:49] <Arkainium> shouldn't*
[08:49] <Bad_Magic> ah
[08:49] <linner> Arkainium, thank ou
[08:49] <linner> Arkainium, you even :)
[08:49] <Bad_Magic> any idea why the 386 kernel was installed to begin with?
[08:49] <Seveas> because there's only space for 1 kernel on the cd
[08:49] <Bad_Magic> gotcha
[08:49] <ripgut> 9 minutes left :s
[08:49] <Bad_Magic> brb then
[08:50] <mxpxpod> Moopere: what command sets up the volatile directory?
[08:50] <P229> mjr_: worked beautifully, many thanks!
[08:50] <aaron__> need some help here, ive got a sounblaster live card on my pc and it wont detect it
[08:50] <Tidus> aaron__: modprobe snd-emu10k1 and see if it detects
[08:51] <Arkainium> linner, btw, here's a tip.  if you know you're going to do a lot of admin work.  enter 'sudo -s' to run a root terminal.  use it cautiously though.
[08:51] <Arkainium> linner, that way you don't have to keep typing sudo command
[08:51] <Tidus> Arkainium: or you can change ubuntu to act like every other standard linux system by 'sudo passwd root' then setting root's password to a known value
[08:52] <linner> Arkainium, well that helps a little.. thank you :)
[08:52] <Moopere> mxpxpod, what does bottom of /var/log/xorg.0.log say?
[08:52] <emile> Arkainium: you can use sudo -s once a session to open a root shell
[08:52] <pratyk> do anybody have pcte modem
[08:52] <linner> Arkainium, where can i get a Linux Command Reference?
[08:52] <pratyk> pctel modem
[08:53] <mxpxpod> Moopere: failed to load the nvidia kernel module
[08:53] <Arkainium> linner, man?  Or just search google.
[08:53] <Arkainium> linner, anyway.  did you get your laptop to sleep?
[08:53] <Moopere> just before that, does it mention a revision number of the module?
[08:53] <libben> [20:50]  <libben> what do i need to get the GUI installation ? http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t252074.html
[08:53] <Moopere> mxpxpod,  just before that, does it mention a revision number of the module?
[08:53] <libben> [20:50]  <libben> cause when i do it i get terminal mode installation
[08:53] <aaron__> hmm, i type that modprobe in the root shell right?
[08:53] <libben> cant remember what it was... have had installed on previous boxes
[08:53] <linner> Arkainium, i haven't gotten that far yet... :)
[08:53] <cesarin> any idea of theres a way to make a CANON 3200F USB to work on ubuntu?
[08:54] <linner> Arkainium, man?  No, I'm female.  I get that all the time.
[08:54] <mxpxpod> Moopere: 1.0-7174
[08:54] <Arkainium> linner, lol!  I meant the 'man' comand.
[08:54] <cesarin> linner, with boobs & stuff? 9_9
[08:54] <Moopere> mxpxpod, ok, so, its trying to use the right driver.  Can you paste the last bit of your log here?
[08:54] <zachman123> Still won't read the cd right... I found it always gets stuck on wireless-tools-udeb though
[08:54] <mxpxpod> Moopere: no, I'm at console
[08:54] <Moopere> !pinboard
[08:54] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Moopere
[08:55] <Bad_Magic> Seveas: its safe to remove the 386 kernel packages now?
[08:55] <Arkainium> linner, type 'man man' to see what I'm talking about.  :P
[08:55] <Seveas> Bad_Magic, did you reboot?
[08:55] <aaron__> you think it may not be working because ive also got a onboard sound card?
[08:55] <Moopere> mxpxpod, heh, of course
[08:55] <Bad_Magic> Seveas: yup
[08:55] <MachineScrew> what the hell is going on with the damn Horay repos
[08:55] <sambagirl> what mp3 player is better than xmms? what are others using?
[08:55] <mxpxpod> Moopere: ok, hold on a second... my volatile directory is now empty and I can't load the module using modprobe
[08:55] <Seveas> then it's safe
[08:55] <mxpxpod> sambagirl: rhythmbox or banshee
[08:55] <MachineScrew> I did an update and it removed gaim
[08:55] <Seveas> sambagirl, beep-media-player is better
[08:55] <Tidus> $ man woman
[08:55] <Tidus> No manual entry for woman
[08:55] <[LethAL] > LOl
[08:55] <sambagirl> i cannot make rhythjm box play my mp3
[08:55] <sambagirl> banshee
[08:55] <Seveas> !mp3
[08:55] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[08:55] <sambagirl> ok i look for this
[08:55] <Concord_Dawn> can anyone help me with installing remote includes for Unreal3.2.3?  I'm thinkin of switchin my server from gentoo over to kubuntu today... but I could wait a few more weeks for the official release
[08:56] <Seveas> Bad_Magic, did you use sudo?
[08:56] <Bad_Magic> yes
[08:56] <Seveas> odd.
[08:57] <Bad_Magic> agreed
[08:57] <cesarin> damn, the forums still down x_X
[08:57] <Moopere> mxpxpod, just before the log tells you the module won't load, does it offer any suggestion as to why?  ie, no screens, no pointing device, etc etc
[08:57] <bastijn> vessuvius: I still prefere Debian Sarge for servers
[08:57] <dooglus> I use 'woman' to read man pages
[08:57] <Moopere> vessuvius, Don't switch your server over to a beta OS man
[08:57] <Gobbla_> hey, does firefox work for everybody else (hoary?)
[08:57] <mxpxpod> Moopere: not that I can see
[08:57] <Bad_Magic> mines working gobbla
[08:57] <Gobbla_> wtf..
[08:57] <mxpxpod> Moopere: let's get this volatile directory thing working first
[08:57] <vessuvius> bastjin... this is just my home server that I put around on
[08:57] <aaron__> mines working
[08:57] <Gobbla_> tried to reinstall
[08:57] <Seveas> vessuvius, gentoo on a server is worse then ubuntu 5.10
[08:57] <Gobbla_> still doesnt work
[08:57] <Bad_Magic> the upgrade sorta had a shit-fit but i removed the old firefox packages and it worked fine
[08:58] <zachman123> moopere, any other tries at it?
[08:58] <Seveas> but you's better go for ubuntu 5.04
[08:58] <dcDuncan> Disculpen por el idioma. Alguien sabe de donde se puede descargar el dvd de Ubuntu ( pero que el link este funcionando)
[08:58] <Seveas> which is stable
[08:58] <Moopere> mxpxpod, I'm not even sure that the volatile directory is important
[08:58] <[LethAL] > !es
[08:58] <vessuvius> I just run a webserver and some samba shares...
[08:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:58] <Seveas> dcDuncan, #ubuntu-es
[08:58] <Concord_Dawn> can anyone tell me why cpp3.3 would fail a sanity check?
[08:58] <mxpxpod> Moopere: well, I can't load the nvidia module using modprobe
[08:58] <Gobbla_> Bad_Magic: so did i
[08:58] <ripgut> Seveas: the download is complete and the file is on the desktop, what do i do now?
[08:58] <Gobbla_> didnt help
[08:58] <Seveas> Concord_Dawn, because it's not installed...
[08:58] <mxpxpod> Moopere: and nvidia-glx-config enable doesn't do anything
[08:58] <Bad_Magic> Gobbla_ any error message?
[08:58] <Moopere> mxpxpod, I wouldn't expect to be able to - how about startx or gdm
[08:58] <Concord_Dawn> Seveas, yeah. I thought so to, except for the fact that it is.
[08:58] <Seveas> ripgut, sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/sun*.deb
[08:58] <dcDuncan> en  #ubuntu-es nadie contesta
[08:58] <MachineScrew> who do I inform about the repos taking a dump
[08:58] <Brunellus> I can't get my computer to ping my router which sits at <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:58] <bastijn> vessuvius: I tink you better don't run 5.10 on it :)
[08:58] <dcDuncan> por favor
[08:59] <aaron__> is it possible to just upgrade ubuntu to the ubuntu 5.10 preview?
[08:59] <Gobbla_> Bad_Magic: no
[08:59] <bastijn> vessuvius: My opinion
[08:59] <Concord_Dawn> yes aaron__
[08:59] <Seveas> Concord_Dawn, install build-essential gcc-3.3 g++-3.3
[08:59] <vessuvius> I learned a lot runnin gentoo, but compiling everything from source is just ridiculous
[08:59] <Brunellus> the output of ifup wlan0 is in #pastebin
[08:59] <Gobbla_> just doesent run
[08:59] <mxpxpod> Moopere: dude, if I can't load the nvidia module, it won't work with X
[08:59] <[LethAL] > !tell aaron__ about upgrade2breezy
[08:59] <ripgut> ok, now what
[08:59] <Brunellus> would someone please have a look and tell me what's wrong?
[08:59] <vessuvius> aight :) thnx bastjin
[08:59] <cesarin> BOO FOR CANON!!!, no support for the scanners :/
[08:59] <Bad_Magic> did you try removing and reinstalling the new packages?
[08:59] <zachman123> If found a response online to someone else with the same drive/problems and they were told to try ide=nodma, but that didn't help me
[08:59] <bastijn> vessuvius: always :)
[08:59] <Brunellus> I think it may have something to do with changing the default gateway
[08:59] <Moopere> mxpxpod, its probably dependant on another module, like nvidia-agp or something
[09:00] <Concord_Dawn> vessuvius, emerge? :-P
[09:00] <zachman123> Please, someone?
[09:00] <[LethAL] > Brunellus, try sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:00] <Chris_Tucker> Where do i go to see the services dialog, and edit whic ones are started with a runlevel?
[09:00] <mxpxpod> Moopere: no, it can't find the module
[09:00] <Chii_Chan> brb >.<
[09:00] <koniu> hi
[09:00] <Chris_Tucker> i cannot find it in ubuntu, im used to kubuntu
[09:00] <Brunellus> [LethAL] , thanks.
[09:00] <Moopere> mxpxpod, try insmod then
[09:00] <vessuvius> Concord_Dawn... ya its actually quite nice... until you have to wait 13 hours to get a working kde desktop :-p
[09:00] <[LethAL] > Brunellus, That just magically worked? Wow
[09:01] <Concord_Dawn> hahahaha
[09:01] <Concord_Dawn> vessuvius, it's the reason why Debian and Debian based distros win
[09:01] <Tidus> vessuvius: it don't even take me that long to get KDE on gentoo
[09:01] <Concord_Dawn> good old apt.
[09:01] <ripgut> Seveas: it says "no such file or directory
[09:01] <mxpxpod> Moopere: I've already tried that... but modprobe is supposed to work
[09:01] <vessuvius> Tidus... I've got an old machine :)
[09:01] <Tidus> Concord_Dawn: ubuntu's alright, but debian proper is still too far out of date.
[09:01] <Seveas> replace sun*.deb with the actual filename ripgut
[09:01] <Tidus> vessuvius: how old?  i have a dual AMD 2000 with 256M ram
[09:01] <Moopere> mxpxpod, what happened when you tried insmod?  Did the module actually load?
[09:01] <Chris_Tucker> Where do i go to see the services dialog, and edit whic ones are started with a runlevel?
[09:02] <Concord_Dawn> Tidus, aint that the truth.
[09:02] <aaron__> lol, its so cool, i got a bunch of ubuntu cds and brought em to tech at school
[09:02] <aaron__> we all had fun installing them on p1 pcs
[09:02] <vessuvius> about 6 years old... PIII 550 w/ 256MB
[09:02] <ripgut> same thing
[09:02] <Brunellus> [LethAL] , no I haven't tried ityet
[09:02] <Brunellus> but you're the first relevant answer in ages
[09:02] <mxpxpod> Moopere: no, it said missing symbols and on other modules it says "not a module"
[09:02] <Concord_Dawn> Chris_Tucker, System->Preferences->Session
[09:02] <vessuvius> It was the best when I bought it :)
[09:02] <Bad_Magic> !ndiswrapper
[09:02] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[09:02] <[LethAL] > Brunellus, I didn't look at the pastebin though
[09:02] <vessuvius> (and dell accidentally sent me two)
[09:02] <vcr> yo
[09:02] <dooglus> Chris_Tucker: best I've found is sysv-rc-conf.  That lets you edit what gets run at each runlevel.
[09:02] <tritium> Chris_Tucker, are you running breezy yet?
[09:02] <Tidus> vessuvius: my old box is a p3-450 with 256M and it was slow.
[09:02] <dooglus> Concord_Dawn: I don't think that shows anything about runlevels, does it?
[09:02] <vcr> what soft would you recommend to record video from a tv grabber?
[09:03] <pratyk> Seveas , can u help with installing pctel modem driver
[09:03] <Moopere> mxpxpod, sounds like a bug man.  change to the nv driver and drop by bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[09:03] <vessuvius> Tidus, I did like rc-update a lot too
[09:03] <Tidus> vessuvius: you may think i'm a masochist, but i have a p2-233 with 128M running gentoo
[09:03] <Seveas> pratyk, I'm afraid not
[09:03] <vessuvius> wow
[09:03] <Chris_Tucker> tritium 5.04, warty i believe
[09:03] <Tidus> vessuvius: i think it's the easiest runlevel management system out there.
[09:03] <zachman123> Anyone, please?
[09:03] <Seveas> Tidus, you're worse than a masochist
[09:03] <Moopere> Tidus, good on you - I hate how fat and slow gnome is
[09:03] <ripgut> Seveas, same error
[09:03] <dooglus> Chris_Tucker: sysv-rc-conf will work on 5.04
[09:03] <vessuvius> I'd agree
[09:03] <tritium> Chris_Tucker, okay.  There's a nice gui runlevel editor in breezy
[09:03] <mxpxpod> Moopere: the thing is, volatile had stuff in it for a while, and now it doesn't
[09:03] <dooglus> (and 5.04 is called hoary?)
[09:03] <tritium> yes, dooglus
[09:04] <dooglus> tritium: there is?  what's it called?
[09:04] <vessuvius> And the documentation is excellent...
[09:04] <ninjafish> can anyone recommend a simple app(let), that can be used for browsing photos held in a directory (kind of like the view as slideshow on XP). I want to show a slideshow of pictures on my Mass Storage Complient Camera
[09:04] <Tidus> Moopere: i kinda like gnome, but right now i'm running some flatulent combination of enlightenment DR16 and nautilus for the desktop icons
[09:04] <Seveas> ripgut, make sure you spelled ~/Desktop/sun-j--something--.deb correctly
[09:04] <Seveas> including capitalization
[09:04] <Bad_Magic> So... anyone else have any ideas as to why im getting this error when i modprobe ndiswrapper? FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[09:04] <Chris_Tucker> tritium: dooglus, im used to kde, ive used the thing there. i want to start smbd and nmbd on startup, i remember i had to check the boxes in this GUI app.
[09:04] <nybble> yay!
[09:04] <tritium> dooglus, System->Administration->Services (on breezy only)
[09:04] <Moopere> Tidus, I love the way gnome looks, but man, is it bloated
[09:04] <nybble> nalioth!
[09:04] <ripgut> i copies and pasted the file name into the command, still same error
[09:04] <[LethAL] > Bad_Magic, sudo modprobe it
[09:04] <nalioth> howdy y'all
[09:04] <Bad_Magic> i did
[09:04] <Seveas> nalioth, good to see you back dude!
[09:04] <tritium> nalioth, good to see you!
[09:04] <vessuvius> I tried xfce the other day and found it quite refreshingly fast
[09:04] <Tidus> Moopere: it starts in under 2 seconds on my dual athlon
[09:04] <dooglus> tritium: that doesn't show the runlevels at all.  it's "all or nothing" with Services...
[09:04] <pratyk> Seveas, i tried it aska for kernel source.where can i find it in ubuntu.
[09:05] <vessuvius> although configuring it is not that great
[09:05] <Moopere> Tidus, seriously, 40MB+ for the xterminal for gnome! (eeek)
[09:05] <Seveas> nalioth, how's your home?
[09:05] <nalioth> all things are good, rita stood me up
[09:05] <dooglus> tritium: what's more, it only shows some of the entries in /etc/init.d/
[09:05] <Tidus> Moopere: it aint taking that much here
[09:05] <[LethAL] > vessuvius, I liked it too... but that fact the ppanel isn't bbar is what made me go back to Gnome
[09:05] <tritium> **And there was much singing and rejoicing at the return of nalioth**
[09:05] <shawarma> Bad_Magic: Check your syslog.
[09:05] <Seveas> pratyk, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:05] <Bad_Magic> /var/log/syslog?
[09:05] <shawarma> Bad_Magic: I think so.
[09:05] <Seveas> nalioth, nice!
[09:05] <shawarma> Bad_Magic: Or maybe just your dmesg output.
[09:06] <Bad_Magic> Sep 25 15:03:41 localhost udev[8712] : creating device node '/dev/ndiswrapper'
[09:06] <Bad_Magic> Sep 25 15:03:41 localhost kernel: ndiswrapper (wrapper_init:1494): loadndiswrapper failed (1792); check system log for messages from 'loadndisdriver'
[09:06] <Bad_Magic> Sep 25 15:03:41 localhost udev[8743] : removing device node '/dev/ndiswrapper'
[09:06] <Brunellus> [LethAL] , no joy.  network is unreachable
[09:06] <ripgut> yup Seveas, same fricking error
[09:06] <Brunellus> please look at the output from ifup in #pastebin
[09:06] <misfit_toy> what file would I edit to have DMA turned on every boot? apparently Ubuntu has no rc.local?
[09:06] <Seveas> Bad_Magic, do NOT paste in here
[09:06] <[LethAL] > Brunellus, Does ifconfig show you the IP of the adapter?
[09:06] <tritium> welcome back, linner
[09:06] <Seveas> misfit_toy, /etc/hdparm.conf
[09:06] <Chris_Tucker> ok, on a different topic, how do i get the system to print TO a shared printer thats on another computer?
[09:06] <Bad_Magic> thought it was one line.. sry
[09:06] <misfit_toy> Seveas, thx
[09:06] <Brunellus> [LethAL] yeah, it's <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:06] <Tidus> Moopere: with E16, two instances of seti@home (one per processor), nautilus, and gnome-terminal going, and the entire system's only using like 80M ram
[09:06] <shawarma> Bad_Magic: Ok... Check /var/log/user.log
[09:06] <linner> thanks tritium :)
[09:06] <Brunellus> which is garbage;  the router is <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:06] <tritium> dooglus, sorry, I haven't looked at it much
[09:07] <ripgut> man im really getting discouraged using linux
[09:07] <[LethAL] > Brunellus, ifconfig <adapter> 192.168.2.<chooseme>
[09:07] <Seveas> Chris_Tucker, system -> admin -> printing
[09:07] <Brunellus> and the hosts on the subnet I want it on are <IP_ADDRESS>xx
[09:07] <Bad_Magic> ah-hah... no usable driver found
[09:07] <Brunellus> [LethAL] :  i'm trying to do it via DHCP
[09:07] <dooglus> tritium: it's just a few checkboxes - you can turn sshd on or off - that's all.  nothing "per runlevel"
[09:07] <Bad_Magic> which is odd considering it says they are installed
[09:07] <Brunellus> and wirelessly
[09:07] <pratyk> Seveas, thats the prob i cannt install modem driver.how can i go to net
[09:07] <Seveas> ripgut, if dpkg says that it can't find the file, you did not spell the name correctly
[09:07] <[LethAL] > Brunellus, sudo dhclient
[09:07] <Bad_Magic> ^^ driver reinstall coming up
[09:07] <tritium> dooglus, well, there's still update-rc.d
[09:07] <ztonzy> is in here the PM-spam comes from ?
[09:07] <ripgut> i did spell it corectly bro
[09:07] <ztonzy> is it*
[09:07] <ripgut> thats the thing
[09:07] <Seveas> pratyk, it may be on the cd
[09:07] <ripgut> i did, but why isn't it finding it
[09:07] <tritium> ripgut, try using tab-completion to make sure you did
[09:07] <pratyk> oh
[09:08] <Chris_Tucker> Seveas: what would the username and password for the default be?
[09:08] <dooglus> tritium: sure.  but that seems to want me to know the 2-digit numbers I want for each script
[09:08] <ztonzy> if I am not in here...there's no such spam at all :-\
[09:08] <ironwolf> anyone have gtkpod working on breezy?
[09:08] <[LethAL] > Brunellus, DHCP over WLAN didn't work for me on Ubuntu
[09:08] <ripgut> tab completion just gives a beep
[09:08] <vcr> anyone knows of a good program to record videos from a TV card?
[09:08] <[LethAL] > ripgut, #ls
[09:08] <[LethAL] > ls*
[09:09] <Seveas> ripgut, ls ~/Desktop
[09:09] <Seveas> put the output on the pastebin
[09:09] <jrattner1> Why cant i find j2re package in synaptip
[09:09] <Moopere> Tidus, yeah, 80M with e16, try the same under gnome - man....
[09:09] <jrattner1> synaptic
[09:09] <Seveas> jrattner1, hoary?
[09:09] <tritium> vcr, mythtv
[09:09] <jrattner1> searcher`, yes
[09:09] <jrattner1> Seveas, yes
[09:09] <Chris_Tucker> Seveas: what would the username and password for the default be?
[09:09] <Tidus> Moopere: i'm talking with E, 2xseti@home, nautilus for the desktop icons, and gnome-terminal running
[09:09] <Seveas> jrattner1, grab a deb from ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu
[09:09] <tritium> linner, laptop still going strong?
[09:10] <Seveas> Chris_Tucker, default what?
[09:10] <ripgut> ok so now what ls ~/Desktop doesnt do anything
[09:10] <jrattner1> Seveas, how do i do that
[09:10] <linner> tritium, it's wonderful :
[09:10] <linner> :)
[09:10] <Moopere> Tidus, my HT 3G P4 is just fine with gnome, but using it on my 700MHz Celly notebook is slow slow slow
[09:10] <Seveas> jrattner1, open firefix, go to that site, download it...
[09:10] <linner> tritium, trying to figure out the laptop specific stuff like standby and so forth
[09:10] <jrattner1> Seveas, then how do i install it
[09:10] <vcr> tritium: thx
[09:10] <Chris_Tucker> Seveas: if there is no password, persay, that the user sees, any windows computer on the network can print to the printer in question without entering a password
[09:10] <[LethAL] > jrattner1, dpkg -i *.deb
[09:10] <Seveas> sudo dpkg -i filename_of_debfile_here
[09:10] <Bateau_> how can i add programs to start when i start the pc?
[09:11] <Seveas> Chris_Tucker, then don't enter one
[09:11] <[LethAL] > Bateau_, Do they need to be run as root?
[09:11] <Seveas> Bateau_, startup or login?
[09:11] <Tidus> Moopere: i have ubuntu on my OLDOLDOLD pmmx-150 laptop with 80M ram in it
[09:11] <ripgut> man i swear this is pissing me off
[09:11] <Bateau_> [LethAL] : yes AND no :P
[09:11] <Bateau_> Seveas: Startup
[09:11] <Seveas> Bateau_, make it an initscript in /etc/rcS.d
[09:11] <tritium> linner, cool.  To enable suspend-to-ram, you'll need to edit /etc/default/acpi-support, and uncomment line 2
[09:12] <tritium> ripgut, patience
[09:12] <ripgut> im trying
[09:12] <Moopere> Tidus, You serious?    I'm running a warty server on a P1/100 with 128MB, but I never _ever_ log in locally
[09:12] <pratyk> Seveas: how can i share internet connection with my fren with windows box.
[09:12] <Chris_Tucker> ok Seveas, i have done that, but now its recommending i install a driver, a ppd file format, where would i find this?
[09:12] <linner> ok... oh that makes sense.. let me give it a shot
[09:12] <j-linux> I'm trying to update ubuntu.  It says "warning, you are about to install software that can't be authenticated! etc."  How do I get the software authenticated?
[09:12] <Tidus> Moopere: yep, it has gnome on it.  takes almost 7 minutes to restart
[09:12] <Moopere> Tidus, ha!
[09:12] <Seveas> pratyk, install firestarter, it has a one-clicke sharing thing
[09:12] <ripgut> imstalling java used to be easy a few months ago on ubuntu, now all this legal crap makes it harder for enusers
[09:12] <ripgut> its bs
[09:12] <linner> tritium, what does this mean http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2519
[09:12] <Seveas> Chris_Tucker, wouldn't know...
[09:12] <Moopere> Tidus, and yet, running E on that machine wouldn't be all that bad
[09:13] <Chris_Tucker> ok, thanks anyway Seveas
[09:13] <mxpxpod> Moopere: ok, I figured it out... I needed to re-run /etc/init.d/linux-restricted-modules-common start after installing the linux-restricted-*-nvidia-legacy
[09:13] <yoyomonkey> hello all :)
[09:13] <Bateau_> Seveas:  initscript? how do i make that?
[09:13] <pratyk> Seveas: is it in cd
[09:13] <Moopere> Tidus, which is what I mean - gnome, curently, is too fat
[09:13] <mxpxpod> Moopere: X is working fine now
[09:13] <Moopere> mxpxpod, cool - thanks for the tip
[09:13] <Tidus> Moopere: ya, but i hardly use this machine locally, unless i'm using the NX client to log into my dually remotely
[09:13] <[LethAL] > Speaking of slow servers, should I use Ubuntu on my C/500/32MB(Maybe 128MB)/1GB PC or does anyone have a better recommendation?
[09:13] <shawarma> Chris_Tucker: linuxprinting.org
[09:13] <blekos_> hey ppl
[09:13] <tritium> linner, it means a monkey threw feces at your laptop
[09:13] <yoyomonkey> i have an s3 twister graphic card on my laptop can i accelerate the graphics for it
[09:13] <dylan_> what linux distro would anybody recommend for a pentium 1 laptop with 40MB of RAM?
[09:14] <ripgut> screw this
[09:14] <ripgut> i give up
[09:14] <Moopere> [LethAL] , 32MB is going to be aweful squeezy - but if you do a server only install it will work
[09:14] <linner> tritium, ew
[09:14] <linner> :)
[09:14] <dylan_> Moopere, whats a server only install?
[09:14] <[LethAL] > Moopere, Like I said, it could be 128
[09:14] <Moopere> [LethAL] , I'm using a 486/66 with 48MB as my firewall
[09:14] <tritium> linner, did that occur today, or last night?
[09:14] <Tidus> Moopere: wanna know what's sucky?  i have more ram in my router / firewall than i do in my dual athlon
[09:14] <tritium> just try again
[09:15] <Brunellus> [LethAL] :  OK I'm really confuse
[09:15] <dylan_> Moopere, do you recommend damn small linux?
[09:15] <shawarma> dylan_: when at the boot prompt on the install CD, you can type "server"
[09:15] <[LethAL] > Brunellus, What's up now?
[09:15] <linner> last night andj ust a few minutes ago
[09:15] <ripgut> all i want is frickin java and its like rocket science just trying to get it installed, its BS
[09:15] <Brunellus> dchlient had a line in the output to the effect of DHCNAK from <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:15] <dylan_> shawarma, what does the server install install onto the system?  does it include gnome or what?
[09:15] <linner> when i tried to update through synapatic tritium
[09:15] <Brunellus> (that's my router!!!)
[09:15] <Moopere> dylan_, A server install of ubuntu works just fine (and is small) - no gui tho
[09:15] <[LethAL] > dylan_, No, server has no GUI
[09:15] <Brunellus> but then it gets a DHCPOFFER from <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:15] <Tidus> Moopere: my router is a Via C3-800 with 512M ram running SuSE 9.2 Pro
[09:15] <Brunellus> (localhost?)
[09:15] <[LethAL] > O.O
[09:16] <[LethAL] > Do you really need DHCP?
[09:16] <Brunellus> how do I keep my computer from OFFERING DHCP
[09:16] <dylan_> [LethAL] , can i install fluxbox or xfce
[09:16] <Seveas> Brunellus, remove dhcp3-server
[09:16] <seatouch> !tell me about ident
[09:16] <Tidus> Brunellus: do you have dhcpd installed?
[09:16] <ripgut> can anyone help me?
[09:16] <Moopere> dylan_, "server install" - when you install ubuntu, instead of hitting enter, type 'server' or 'server-expert'
[09:16] <dylan_> is xfce or fluxbox more lightweight?
[09:16] <ripgut> im ready to go back to windows
[09:16] <seatouch> !tell me about identd
[09:16] <Brunellus> I have no idea
[09:16] <Seveas> you installed a dhcp server, get it out
[09:16] <Tidus> dylan_: yes, fluxbox is very lightweight
[09:16] <[LethAL] > ripgut, What's the question?
[09:16] <Brunellus> ok.
[09:16] <dylan_> Tidus, how about xfce?
[09:16] <MikeStyle> hey everyone....when i run wine on a .exe file i dont get text, i get symbols, making it impossible to install somthing...
[09:17] <ripgut> i cant get ubuntu to find the java file on my desktop
[09:17] <ripgut> its like it cant read proper spelling
[09:17] <ripgut> stupid distro
[09:17] <tritium> ripgut, you're doing something wrong, then
[09:17] <nnonix> ripgut: well, your java will work over there :)
[09:17] <Tidus> dylan_: it's fairly lightweight, but it's starting to suffer what we like to call the gnome disease.  it's slowly getting fatter
[09:17] <Moopere> xfce is lightweight, but slow (gtk!)
[09:17] <blekos_> i am looking for an application mayb u can help, in a couple of wallpapers i've seen something "odometers" o car, indicating hd space, system kernel vs, ethernet speed etc
[09:17] <MikeStyle> ripgut, are u running gdm or kde?
[09:17] <[LethAL] > ripgut, cd Desktop/; ls
[09:17] <dylan_> Tidus, lol Gnome disease, what about KDE disease?
[09:17] <ripgut> im not doing anything wrong i doulbe checked the spelling of the file dozens of times
[09:17] <blekos_> does it happen to know the name of the app?
[09:17] <ripgut> im not spelling it wrong
[09:17] <tritium> ripgut, where is the file located?
[09:17] <Tidus> dylan_: believe it or not, on my box KDE uses less ram than gnome
[09:17] <Moopere> dylan_, KDE is fast fast fast compared to gnome
[09:17] <ripgut> desktop
[09:18] <Seveas> Moopere, roflol
[09:18] <tritium> ripgut, desktop is spelled with a capital D
[09:18] <dylan_> tidus, Moopere, you're kidding
[09:18] <ripgut> Desktop
[09:18] <Moopere> dylan_, nope, not kidding
[09:18] <tritium> ripgut, cd Desktop and then do ls
[09:18] <ripgut> im cd'd in it
[09:18] <Tidus> Moopere: buti 'd like to differ.  gnome starts in under 2 seconds while KDE takes about 15
[09:18] <MikeStyle> ripgut, open terminal: cd /home/USERNAME/Desktop
[09:18] <shawarma> ripgut: So from you java app, you can't find a certain file... Is that it?
[09:18] <deFrysk> Moopere, lost sense of timing ?
[09:18] <ripgut> im in the directory i been in the directory
[09:18] <dylan_> Moopere, but it has more eye candy
[09:18] <Seveas> shawarma, he can't spell the name of the .deb correctly...
[09:18] <MikeStyle> can anyone help me with my wine problem?
[09:19] <tritium> ripgut, what is the name of the file as shown by the output of "ls"
[09:19] <tritium> ?
[09:19] <jc-denton> hi all
[09:19] <Brunellus> i don't have a dhcp server installed
[09:19] <ripgut> sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[09:19] <ripgut> that is exactly how i spelled it
[09:19] <jc-denton> i run breezy and was not careful when updating
[09:19] <deFrysk> MikeStyle, /j #wine
[09:19] <[LethAL] > MikeStyle, I have wine and cedega, both show fonts fine, no idea, sorry
[09:19] <jc-denton> so xorg got removed
[09:19] <shawarma> ripgut: Right. you want to install that? Is that it?
[09:19] <ripgut> yea
[09:19] <jc-denton> i installed it again but now synaptics does not work anymore
[09:19] <tritium> ripgut, and what is the output of "sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb" ?
[09:19] <Seveas> jc-denton, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:19] <MikeStyle> [LethAL] . wut is cedega?
[09:19] <jc-denton> (EE) Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics touchpad detected and no repeater device
[09:19] <ripgut> "no such file or directory"
[09:19] <shawarma> ripgut: So you type what? And get which error?
[09:19] <Brunellus> [LethAL] , I don't have a dhcp server installed, what's going on?
[09:19] <Moopere> Well, I'm using gnome and kde (and XP) on this laptop, and have 32+ other machines in my farm - take it from me, gnome 2.12 is a _lot_ slower and fatter then KDE 3.5 (or 3.4x)
[09:20] <j-linux> Does anyone have any advice for updating my Ubuntu?  It says the updates can't be authenticated and "someone can take control of my system".  Is there any way to authenticate the software?
[09:20] <[LethAL] > Brunellus, You do... you do you do you do
[09:20] <caleb_> does breezy support NetworkManager?
[09:20] <jc-denton> Seveas: humm
[09:20] <jc-denton> i dont think this will fix it
[09:20] <Bad_Magic> yay for me
[09:20] <Bad_Magic> ndiswrappers working
[09:20] <Bad_Magic> =x
[09:20] <dylan_> Moopere, how does KDE use less mem if it has more candy?
[09:20] <ripgut> im doing a "sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[09:20] <Brunellus> [LethAL] :  I just ran apt-get remove dchp3-server
[09:20] <shawarma> ripgut: ~ in a sudo comandline turns into /root...
[09:20] <Moopere> dylan_, candy does not have to equal > fat.  Code optimisation matters
[09:20] <[LethAL] > ripgut, change ~ to /home/ripgut/
[09:20] <Brunellus> and it gave me "not installed, so not removed"
[09:20] <ripgut> im in root
[09:20] <Seveas> shawarma, no
[09:21] <ripgut> why
[09:21] <MikeStyle> [LethAL] , what is cedega and how do i get it?
[09:21] <shawarma> Seveas: Oh,right. You're right.
[09:21] <Seveas> ripgut, ah THAT is your problem

[09:21] <shawarma> ripgut: It doesn't. I'm dumb.  I haven't actually done it. It's just what I used to use..
[09:23] <denn_> test34, how do you do it right?
[09:23] <deFrysk> DE-stupidity
[09:23] <tritium> ripgut, cool, you got it installed?
[09:24] <deFrysk> should be a channel made
[09:24] <[LethAL] > ripgut, the problem was that the root's home dir isn't the same as yours, which ~ calls
[09:24] <ripgut> yea, thank you sir
[09:24] <ripgut> i was executing the command as root
[09:24] <test34> denn, yeah should be open location
[09:24] <Brunellus> [LethAL] , none installed
[09:24] <MikeStyle> [LethAL] , #ubuntu is blocking the PM's im sending
[09:24] <ironwolf> shawarma: it worked on hoary just GREAT!  but on breezy it seems to not work. Any ideas for working things people?
[09:25] <Bad_Magic> anyone want to help me with an mplayer freezeup whenever i load anything? (totem works...)
[09:25] <test34> denn, Play Location
[09:25] <shawarma> ironwolf: I'll test it. gimme a few minutes.
[09:25] <ironwolf> shawarma: cool thanks.
[09:25] <Brunellus> [LethAL] :  i'm telling you, there isn't one there.  what else could be doing this?
[09:25] <sh0wtime> got a question.. trying to install ubuntu-ppc on an ibook and my hd is messed cuz it complains when tries to partition the ext partition... is there any way to bypass thiss..?
[09:25] <cesarin> never tought that adding USB scannes could be this hard o_O
[09:25] <tritium> ripgut, :)
[09:26] <[LethAL] > Brunellus, try searching name and description
[09:26] <denn_> test34, do i need some special plugin or something?
[09:26] <jc-denton> well i just rebooted
[09:26] <jc-denton> now it works
[09:26] <aaron__> srry to ask again, what was that link to the upgrade2breezy?
[09:26] <ripgut> thanks guys sorry for my ignorance and inpatience
[09:26] <Brunellus> [LethAL] : I just *did*
[09:26] <Bad_Magic> !breezy
[09:26] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[09:26] <Brunellus> nothing installed!
[09:26] <jc-denton> probably udev related or something
[09:26] <aaron__> thx
[09:26] <Bad_Magic> nps
[09:26] <deFrysk> aaron__, also look at the topic next time
[09:26] <test34> denn_, let me try it
[09:27] <ripgut> now i can use limewire and get music on my zen micro
[09:27] <ripgut> thanks everyone!
[09:27] <vladuz976> there is no backports for breezy?
[09:27] <Seveas> vladuz976, breezy isn't even finished
[09:27] <Seveas> how can there be backports?!?
[09:27] <deFrysk> vladuz976, wouldn that be a bit hasty ? :D
[09:27] <denn_> test34, did it work?
[09:27] <vladuz976> Seveas, yeah true]
[09:27] <test34> denn_, just open the .pls with xmms, works fine for me
[09:27] <Andrew> hey, im new, I just installed ubuntu, can anyone help for a sec?
[09:28] <MikeStyle> Andrew, shoot the question, somebody will help
[09:28] <Seveas> !tell Andrew about ask
[09:28] <deFrysk> !tell Andrew avout ask
[09:28] <Mr-Falkor> wee
[09:28] <Mr-Falkor> I have breezy now
[09:28] <deFrysk> !tell Andrew about ask
[09:28] <Bad_Magic> anyone want to help me with an mplayer freezeup whenever i load anything? (totem works...)
[09:28] <Mr-Falkor> but there is one little problem
[09:28] <Mr-Falkor> I cant install the nvidia drivers =/
[09:28] <vessuvius> Does ubuntu support reiserfs in breezy?
[09:28] <Seveas> Bad_Magic, set ao=esd in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[09:28] <Seveas> vessuvius, in hoary and warty too
[09:29] <Andrew> I just installed ubuntu, and I don't have a screen
[09:29] <Brunellus> vessuvius: i'm running reiserfs in hoary
[09:29] <Brunellus> and warty
[09:29] <linner> tritium, it seems the page has scrolled up too much and lost your directions to me for enabling standby support on my lappy
[09:29] <Bad_Magic> Seveas: it is
[09:29] <vessuvius> Seveas,Brunellus, oh good.. I must have been thinking of Debian
[09:29] <tritium> linner, shucks.  I guess you're out of luck, as I can't repeat it again ;)
[09:29] <tritium> linner, edit /etc/default/acpi-support, and uncomment line 2
[09:29] <linner> tritium, bummer, man :)
[09:29] <linner> thank you :)
[09:30] <Seeker_> Hi people!  I'm trying to change the default framebuffer driver that the distro uses.  Where I'm supposed to change that? :)  I'm trying to load tdfxfb
[09:30] <vessuvius> If I remember right, once you get ubuntu installed.... like if I install the preview release.. its as easy as apt-get upgrade (or something like that) when the release version comes out right?
[09:30] <tritium> yes, vessuvius
[09:30] <Chris_Tucker> well, so far ive managed to get it to appear as a printer, as far as printing to it, nothing yet
[09:31] <linner> tritium, it's already uncommented
[09:31] <Seveas> vessuvius, you should run apt-get upgrade on a regular basis (infact: the update manager does it for you)
[09:31] <cesarin> well im gone guys
[09:31] <cesarin> later!
[09:31] <cesarin> so bad I couldnt get up my scanner working.. it seems its NOT supported x_X damn canon!
[09:31] <tritium> linner, okay.  Have you rebooted since it was uncommented?
[09:31] <linner> no... i'll go do that
[09:31] <linner> thank you :)
[09:32] <shawarma> ironwolf: Er... What happens when you try?
[09:32] <Andrew> when I start ubuntu it promts me to put in my username and pass, then it says "you have no new mail" and then andrew@ubuntu:~$
[09:33] <Andrew> where do I go now?
[09:33] <Jan_> hihi all
[09:33] <[LethAL] > Andrew, what do you want to do?
[09:33] <Bad_Magic> what do you want to do?
[09:33] <Seveas> Andrew, did you install with 'expert' or 'server' option?
[09:33] <orangey> hey all!
[09:33] <Jan_> We just installed Ubuntu on a laptop, and it all works nicely except for DVD playback.
[09:33] <Andrew> server
[09:33] <Seveas> then you're done
[09:33] <Seveas> this is all that is ubuntu in server mode
[09:33] <Andrew> In't there like a desktop thing?
[09:33] <Seveas> no
[09:33] <ironwolf> shawarma: It mounts the ipod at /media/ipod (a breezyism I think, which is fine, I changed the links) then tries to create the directories, asks me ok, I say ok, it says directories can't be created
[09:33] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, whats up with dvd playback?
[09:33] <Jan_> Totem says "Totem could not play 'dvd://' Error invoking "dvdnav_get_next_block": Error reading NAV packet"
[09:33] <orangey> I can only configure my network connection (eth0) to be "up" or "down", but not to go up and down depending on the plugged in wire status.. Is there nothing like pump or ifplugd for ubuntu?
[09:33] <Andrew> so I need to do it the other way?
[09:34] <Seveas> you specified you did not want one
[09:34] <orangey> if so, how do I configure it?
[09:34] <Seveas> Andrew, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:34] <shawarma> ironwolf: This is an entirely new iPod?
[09:34] <[LethAL] > Andrew, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:34] <Seveas> that will install the desktop
[09:34] <Jan_> *heavenly chorus*
[09:34] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, you probably need the decryption library - this a commercial dvd?
[09:34] <Jan_> Yes.
[09:35] <Jan_> I assumed it would be something like that.
[09:35] <ironwolf> shawarma: essentially it is now, ipod mini, but I erased all of the directories. and started from scratch
[09:35] <Bad_Magic> Jan_: theres a walkthrough at www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:35] <tristanmike> Jan_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-ae79fed9d60ccdf06f400ae76ad53867d94bb2b8
[09:35] <Bad_Magic> or that
[09:35] <Bad_Magic> =)
[09:35] <tristanmike> Jan_, don't use ubuntuguide, use the wiki
[09:35] <Jan_> transgress: Um, okay.
[09:35] <shawarma> ironwolf: I see. So the direcotires are already there, but you want to overwrite them?
[09:35] <Andrew> seveas, thanks alot, its extracting right now, ill let you know how it goes
[09:36] <Seveas> Bad_Magic, DO NOT recommend ubuntuguide
[09:36] <Seveas> ubuntuguide sucks
[09:36] <tristanmike> !tell Jan_ about ubuntuguide.org
[09:36] <[LethAL] > Even ubotu says so
[09:36] <ironwolf> shawarma: I'm not convinced gtkpod finds them.
[09:36] <Jan_> I cannot connect to wiki.ubuntu.com because SSL is disabled.
[09:36] <Jan_> Apparently.
[09:36] <tristanmike> !tell Jan_ about ubuntuguide
[09:36] <Jan_> Ah, that doesn't work either
[09:36] <shawarma> ironwolf: Why?
[09:36] <Jan_> I don't think we set up the DNS properly
[09:37] <Jan_> Ah.
[09:37] <nalioth> go tristanmike!
[09:37] <Bad_Magic> lol
[09:37] <Bad_Magic> =)
[09:37] <tristanmike> :)
[09:38] <tristanmike> Jan_, lol
[09:38] <ironwolf> shawarma: because it was needed on hoary sometimes to make it work.
[09:38] <davidosa> I dl'ed the live .iso for mac, burned it to cd but can't get it to work. holding down 'c' while rebooting does not take. what gives?
[09:38] <Jan_> woah
[09:38] <shawarma> ironwolf: You just said everything was fine in Hoary, but not in Breezy+
[09:38] <shawarma> ironwolf: ?
[09:38] <Jan_> it's way fast detecting ethernet and setting up for outbound
[09:38] <Jan_> way faster than windows
[09:38] <Echelon-H> how can i make ubuntu auto-login ot a user on startup?
[09:39] <Jan_> Hibernate doesn't work :(
[09:39] <davidosa> any ideas fellas?
[09:39] <ironwolf> shawarma: I was able to get gtkpod into a known state with hoary.
[09:39] <Seveas> Echelon-H, sudo gdmsetup
[09:39] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, try totem-xine, might work
[09:39] <Rikku> Sevea	ping
[09:39] <alabastos> hi
[09:39] <Chii_Chan> Im proud of myself, hehe I actualy installed and got a game to work
[09:39] <tristanmike> Jan_, you probably need to enable DMA
[09:39] <Rikku> Seveas: ping
[09:39] <coke-bass> .cl
[09:39] <alabastos> i try to install roxen3 but fails
[09:39] <Bad_Magic> Jan_: yea... i tried hibernating mine today and when it restarted it came back to a garbled gnome desktop and was locked hard
[09:39] <Seveas> Rikku, pong
[09:40] <alabastos> Configurando roxen3 (3.3.63-6) ...
[09:40] <alabastos> dpkg: error al procesar roxen3 (--configure):
[09:40] <alabastos>  el subproceso post-installation script devolvi el cdigo de salida de error 10Se encontraron errores al procesar:
[09:40] <alabastos>  roxen3
[09:40] <alabastos> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:40] <Rikku> Seveas: may i /msg you for a minute?
[09:40] <Seveas> alabastos, NEVER paste in here
[09:40] <tristanmike> quick on the ball there Seveas, lol
[09:40] <tritium> alabastos, no pasting please.  Also, use #ubuntu-es
[09:40] <Seveas> Rikku, no, you're evading a mute
[09:40] <MikeStyle> hey guys, i just ran sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb    and it installed....but i cant find it anywhere.
[09:40] <Rikku> Seveas: I'm just wondering why i got muted
[09:40] <jrattner1> What package is JAVA in synaptic
[09:40] <FhaeTon> Ok I'm Installing Ubuntu 64 right now as I type
[09:40] <Jan_> where it says "hoary-extras" do I want "breezy-extras"
[09:40] <Seveas> because I told you to stop the desktop war. You didn't.
[09:41] <snausages> hey guys. i screwed up my xorg.conf and now i'd like to restore it, possibly from the live cd. the one that i edited doesn't appear in my /etc/X11/ directory though
[09:41] <orangey> jrattner1, jre*
[09:41] <FhaeTon> I gonna tell everyone whats happening
[09:41] <kitschx> can anyone help me out with firefox 1.0.7 on ubuntu? i upgraded from 1.0.6 to 1.0.7 with ubuntus software updates, and since then, firefox wont start. got an error message that it couldnt overwrite /var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic
[09:41] <steely> i've downloaded a snes emulator and can't find it in aptitude to install it
[09:41] <Rikku> Seveas: i was unaware that i was in a desktop war.  i stated good things about both
[09:41] <Seveas> kitschx, /topic
[09:41] <FhaeTon> I'm a total noob
[09:41] <kitschx> Sevas: thanks :)
[09:41] <tristanmike> steely, which emulator?
[09:41] <steely> snes9x
[09:41] <deFrysk> kitschx, see /topic
[09:41] <Bad_Magic> kitschx: remove the old packages and the new packages (if they installed) and then reinstall the new ones
[09:41] <Mr_Flibble> Rikku I got stung too - been here 4 hours helping the heck outa everyone and bang
[09:41] <MikeStyle> does anyone know where i can find the .deb i just installed?
[09:41] <tristanmike> steely, you should be able to find it in Synaptic
[09:41] <Rikku> Seveas: btw... mute is +q, not +b
[09:42] <tristanmike> steely, you shouldn't need to download it
[09:42] <steely> i'll try
[09:42] <FhaeTon> coping packages to HD
[09:42] <steely> i can install it w/o the download?
[09:42] <Seveas> Rikku, +q is shown as +b % now
[09:42] <Bad_Magic> Rikku: +b works too on most irc networks they also cant rejoin if they leave the channel
[09:42] <tristanmike> steely, check Synaptic, should be there
[09:42] <Jan_> sudo apt-get updated produced a lot of errors :(
[09:42] <Jan_> Should I ignore and continue, or try to fix?
[09:43] <Rikku> Seveas: i know the difference between 'quiet' and 'ban'
[09:43] <deadcat> anyone able to compile and load the zd1211 module? i can compile and load, but it doesnt do anything. because it didnt load the firmware
[09:43] <kitschx> defrysk, bad_magic: thanks i'll try it. but i didnt use the backports...
[09:43] <steely> tristanmike:  it isn't showing up in synaptic
[09:43] <FhaeTon> man I feel so helpless
[09:43] <Jan_> anyone? I'm utterly lost here
[09:43] <Bad_Magic> kitschx: dont do a total removal so you dont lose your preferences
[09:43] <_[> hi everyone
[09:44] <deFrysk> kitschx, good stuff , not using the backports :)
[09:44] <CarlFK> whats the "best" gui app for duping audio CDs?
[09:44] <tristanmike> steely, did you add the repositores?
[09:44] <nalioth> Jan_: leave -extras alone for now
[09:44] <bam_> samba help anyone?
[09:44] <Jan_> nalioth: What?
[09:44] <_[> was just wondering if Beagle will be included by default in Breezy or if i have to install all those packages, then hack my system to get it to work.  any answers?
[09:44] <FhaeTon> I'm helpless
[09:44] <nalioth> Jan_: i'm highly confused, what was your question?
[09:44] <steely> how do i do that?
[09:44] <deFrysk> CarlFK, gnome-baker graveman in kde k3b
[09:44] <FhaeTon> this is the matrix and I'm lost
[09:45] <Jan_> nalioth: I am going through the instructions for DVD playback at wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:45] <Jan_> It told me to "sudo apt-get update"
[09:45] <Jan_> many 404 errors appeared.
[09:45] <Seveas> _[, it'll be as simple as sudo apt-get install beagle
[09:45] <tristanmike> steely, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?action=show&redirect=HowToEnableTheMultiverseRepositoryInUbuntu
[09:45] <nalioth> Jan_: you using breezy?
[09:45] <steely> thanks
[09:45] <Jan_> Yes, I think so
[09:45] <nalioth> Jan_: breezy is undergoing severe daily changes
[09:45] <CarlFK> deFrysk - thanks
[09:45] <Jan_> However I am concerned that the guide mentioned "hoary"
[09:45] <tristanmike> steely, are you using Breezy too?
[09:46] <_[> Seveas, really?  thats quite impressive.  cani  install it like that right now?
[09:46] <nalioth> Jan_: are you using x86 breezy or amd64 or ppc?
[09:46] <Jan_> x86
[09:46] <Seveas> _[, yes
[09:46] <MikeStyle> i just ran sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb    and it installed....but i cant find it anywhere. Can anyone Help Me?
[09:46] <Hieronymus> I just ordered CDs through shipit. Will I get 5.10 CDs?
[09:46] <Seveas> MikeStyle, what was ir?
[09:46] <[LethAL] > MikeStyle, What was it?
[09:46] <Seveas> Hieronymus, ja
[09:46] <nalioth> Jan_: you may try later as breezy pkgs are in constant developement atm
[09:46] <haasteem> hi emile: all is working now... you remember, the dvd drive?
[09:46] <MikeStyle> cedega
[09:46] <Hieronymus> Seveas: goed :) Waarom staat dat niet in de FAQ?
[09:46] <[LethAL] > Doesn't show in the gui
[09:47] <_[> Seveas, may i ask one more question...
[09:47] <ulisse> hello tribe
[09:47] <Seveas> _[, sure
[09:47] <MikeStyle> [LethAL]  where would i find it?
[09:47] <khermans_> Anyone know how to change the login sheel that SSH drops me into?
[09:47] <[LethAL] > MikeStyle, $ cedega *.exe
[09:47] <ulisse> how can I run something before starting X server?
[09:47] <Seveas> Hieronymus, het is gemaild en afaik staat het op shipit :)

[09:47] <khermans_> I am being dropped into ksh, but i want bash
[09:47] <Seveas> khermans, chsh
[09:47] <Jan_> hm
[09:47] <MikeStyle> ah [LethAL] , cd to dir of exe file and run that?
[09:47] <_[> Seveas, linux will always be spyware and virus free because of what?  is it the development community, or what?
[09:47] <Jan_> we were told to definitely use breezy as it worked better on laptops
[09:47] <deFrysk> !tell Seveas about nl
[09:47] <deFrysk> ;p
[09:47] <nalioth> Seveas: you should know better
[09:47] <Seveas> _[, yes
[09:48] <[LethAL] > MikeStyle, yes, or you can tell ? to run exe's with cedega
[09:48] <Jan_> It took two days to download it due to various odd server problems
[09:48] <Seveas> and because of better security primitives
[09:48] <MikeStyle> ok thanks
[09:48] <Jan_> and now you're saying we have the wrong thing :(
[09:48] <Bad_Magic> Jan_: Im using hoary on my laptop atm and it runs well aside from hibernate
[09:48] <_[> Seveas, so popularity does NOT diminish security on a OS platform, its the way tis written?
[09:48] <Jan_> Bad_Magic: well this won't, and it sort of has to
[09:48] <Hieronymus> Seveas: It said that a few weeks ago. Something like 'shipit is closed, new orders will be Breezy Badger'
[09:49] <ulisse> what is the dafault runleve for ubuntu?
[09:49] <Seveas> _[, linux, like unix is built to be run on insecure networks.
[09:49] <[LethAL] > Hieronymus, They're back open now
[09:49] <Seveas> ulisse, 2
[09:49] <Bad_Magic> I have 0 experience with breezy and it wont be "stable" for another month so im no help til then
[09:49] <Bad_Magic> [
[09:49] <FhaeTon> it finished installation and kicked disk out
[09:49] <_[> Seveas, thanks a ton!
[09:49] <freemanen> what is the diffrent between ubuntu 5.04 and 5.10?
[09:49] <ulisse> Seveas, so if I want to run sthg before X, I have to put hands on rc.2 directory, right?
[09:49] <afaik> it't thre the disc out kicking and screaming
[09:49] <shawarma> _[: That has got to be the most annoying nick ever.
[09:49] <fetman> hello, I need som help with installing "lirc" in ubuntu!
[09:49] <FhaeTon> error 21
[09:49] <Seveas> freemanen, wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyGoals www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12
[09:49] <khermans_> fetman, sudo aptitude install lirc
[09:50] <_[> shawarma, quite frankly, i dont care
[09:50] <fetman> khermans_: well, it's not that easy!
[09:50] <FhaeTon> grub loading, please wait.......   Error 21
[09:50] <thoreauputic> !nickometer _[
[09:50] <ubotu> '_[' is 40% lame, thoreauputic
[09:50] <snausages> HELP. i screwed up my xorg.conf and now i'd like to restore it, possibly from the live cd. the one that i edited doesn't appear in my /etc/X11/ directory though
[09:50] <thoreauputic> is that all ? *g*
[09:50] <Jan_> So we're saying you can't do DVD playback on Breezy.
[09:50] <_[> !nickometer thoreauputic
[09:50] <ubotu> 'thoreauputic' is 0% lame, _[
[09:50] <_[> wtf
[09:50] <[LethAL] > LOL
[09:50] <kitschx> bad_magic, defrysk: theres a problem with dependencies now. synaptic and apt-get says firefox is not available. i havnt done anything with my repositories lately. you know what could be the problem?
[09:50] <thoreauputic> _[: heh
[09:50] <fetman> khermans_: I have this thread; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20952 but I don't know what to do in every step
[09:50] <Seveas> don't play with the bot...
[09:50] <[LethAL] > !nickometer [LethAL]
[09:50] <ubotu> '[LethAL] ' is 18% lame, [lethal]
[09:50] <FhaeTon> help
[09:50] <shawarma> !nickometer shawarma
[09:50] <ubotu> 'shawarma' is 0% lame, shawarma
[09:51] <shawarma> woot!
[09:51] <FhaeTon> grub loading, please wait.......   Error 21
[09:51] <thisnickrules> !nickometer thisnickrules
[09:51] <ubotu> 'thisnickrules' is 0% lame, thisnickrules
[09:51] <Seveas> don't play with the bot...
[09:51] <thisnickrules> Seveas, ok sry
[09:51] <deFrysk> kitschx, set http in yor repositories to ftp
[09:51] <deFrysk> shpuld work again then
[09:51] <deFrysk> excuse the typos :s
[09:51] <FhaeTon> grub loading, please wait.......   Error 21 Hellpp!!!
[09:51] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, looks that way - perhaps some lingering legal trouble with libdvdcss?
[09:51] <shawarma> Evilseveas: That's right. the nickometer is not a toy! :-D
[09:51] <afaik> does anyone know if there is such a thing as s-video to rca plug? Or whatever the yellow plug is called that plugs into older tvs?
[09:52] <Artimus> afaik: Radioshack has them
[09:52] <Jan_> Mr_Flibble: But I could do it on Red Hat
[09:52] <seatouch> !nickometer searcher`
[09:52] <ubotu> 'searcher`' is 14% lame, seatouch
[09:52] <morf> hi leute
[09:52] <Artimus> afaik: Let me guess.  Svideo-Out from your computer into your TV?
[09:52] <afaik> Artimus, I looked at radio shack.. they had none, and the salesperson acted all confused when I questioned him
[09:52] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, You could do it on ubuntu hoary too
[09:52] <Jan_> And it won't hibernate.
[09:52] <[LethAL] > !lart himself
[09:52] <thisnickrules> seatouch, Seveas just asked me not to do that
[09:52] <Jan_> So it's unusable.
[09:52] <Dada> Anyone from Chile???
[09:53] <deFrysk> chile is hispanic right ?
[09:53] <deFrysk> !es
[09:53] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:53] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, i cant find the libdvdcss anywhere in the breezy repositories - doesn't mean its not out there somewhere
[09:53] <Dada> thanks ubotu
[09:53] <Jan_> I think we RPM'd it under Red Hat
[09:53] <Rikku> any other ops in here besides seveas?
[09:53] <Jan_> but why is it suddenly a problem?
[09:53] <shawarma> Mr_Flibble: It's in libdvdread3
[09:53] <[LethAL] > Rikku, quite obviously not
[09:53] <nalioth> Rikku: why do you want ops?
[09:53] <thoreauputic> Rikku: they are hiding ;)
[09:54] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, theres your answer - from shawarma
[09:54] <P229> Mr_Flibble: there's a shell script that installs it
[09:54] <mjr_> Mr_Flibble, see the script /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh that fetches the decss module
[09:54] <deFrysk> rikki more ops are watching you then you would be happy with ;p
[09:54] <Rikku> I was never warned to stop the DE war before i was banned
[09:54] <shawarma> Mr_Flibble: well, kind of. In libdvdread3 there's a script in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3 that install libdecss or whatever.
[09:54] <hablandocontigo> hello, I'm on bitchx now, I reconfigured x to try to use the nvidia driver, now I can't boot into X, I tried VESA, also but I get an error message about "device not found"; anyone have any idea?
[09:54] <tristanmike> Rikku, they're incognito
[09:54] <deFrysk> Rikku, that is
[09:54] <Jan_> Mr_Flibble: Sure, but what does that mean
[09:54] <Rikku> i was unaware that it was even a war.
[09:54] <Bad_Magic> kitschx: did you get it working?
[09:54] <P229> hablandocontigo: try Xorg -configure
[09:54] <hablandocontigo> P229 thanks
[09:54] <shawarma> Jan_: Have you got libdvdread3 nstalled?
[09:55] <Jan_> I don't know.
[09:55] <kitschx> Bad_Magic: no, ive changed some repositories to ftp but it still doesnt work. im trying to change some more
[09:55] <P229> Jan_: sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[09:55] <tristanmike> Jan_, do a search in Synaptic for it
[09:55] <tristanmike> Jan_, or there ;) P229
[09:55] <daejavu> how do u get to run .wma  music/videos files on ur media players ?
[09:55] <nalioth> y'all be good. bbl
[09:55] <Jan_> Synaptic?
[09:55] <shawarma> Jan_: If so, run: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[09:55] <nalioth> !tell Jan_ about synaptic
[09:55] <kitschx> Bad_Magic, deFrysk: still doesnt work. synaptic says "Package firefox has no available version, but exists in the database."
[09:55] <P229> Jan_: after installing libdvdread3 like tristanmike says
[09:55] <Verso`> Is it possible to change the serial number of my PowerBook G4 ?
[09:55] <hablandocontigo> P229 "Missing output drivers configuration failed"
[09:55] <Bad_Magic> kitschx: mines working with http://
[09:56] <Seveas> grmbl, my mouse went byzantine
[09:56] <shawarma> Verso`: Doubtfully.
[09:56] <Bad_Magic> kitschx: do mozilla-firefox
[09:56] <Jan_> hang on
[09:56] <Jan_> you're losing me
[09:56] <Jan_> what do I do
[09:56] <vessuvius> Is there any difference between installing ubuntu and then installing and configuring kde than installing kubuntu?
[09:56] <shawarma> Jan_: Type "/usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh"
[09:56] <shawarma> Jan_: And smile.
[09:56] <steely> tristanmike: what is breezy?
[09:57] <zarkoth> 'lo there
[09:57] <kitschx> Bad_Magic, looks like its working with mozilla-firefox (somebody already told me i should try it instead of firefox, i dont know why i forgot). thanks :)
[09:57] <Jan_> "dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privelidge"
[09:57] <Ne453> vessuvius: Ubuntu and Kubuntu use the same repositories, so it essentially doesn't matter
[09:57] <thoreauputic> vessuvius: the first way you get gnome as well (assuming a default install)
[09:57] <NSK> hello
[09:57] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, go here /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples and run install-css.sh
[09:57] <steely> i still can't find the files, even after adding repositories
[09:57] <Bad_Magic> kitschx: nps
[09:57] <Chii_studies> afk :/
[09:57] <Jan_> Mr_Flibble: I just did
[09:57] <zarkoth> did the repositories server get back online?
[09:57] <Jan_> "dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privelidge"
[09:57] <hablandocontigo> hello, I'm on bitchx now, I reconfigured x to try to use the nvidia driver, now I can't boot into X, I tried VESA, also but I get an error message about "device not found"; anyone have any idea? Xorg -configure fails with "Missing output driver configuration failed"
[09:57] <tristanmike> steely, Breezy is the next Ubuntu release, it's released now, but is still in slight development, to be released Oct. 13,
[09:57] <test34> Jan_, use sudo
[09:57] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, did all go well?
[09:57] <Ne453> vessuvius: you can install kubuntu-desktop in Ubuntu, and ubuntu-desktop in Kubuntu
[09:57] <steely> oh, no.
[09:57] <Bad_Magic> Jan_: sudo dpkg [etc]
[09:57] <P229> hablandocontigo: what does "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nvidia" give you?
[09:57] <steely> i'm using hoary
[09:58] <tristanmike> cool
[09:58] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, oh, ok - do a sudo ./install-css.sh
[09:58] <Rikku> anyway... i'm gone.  if I can't even help people with their questions about ubuntu, then i guess it's your loss
[09:58] <kitschx> Bad_Magic, deFrysk: is there any difference between ftp and http for the official repositories? or should i change the ones i changed back?
[09:58] <hablandocontigo> P229 no lines returned
[09:58] <tristanmike> steely, Hoary is nice
[09:58] <Jan_> it went through a ton of stuff
[09:58] <Jan_> ending in "setting up libdvdcss2 (1.2.5-1)
[09:58] <steely> so far i haven't successfully installed a single program
[09:58] <Bad_Magic> kitschx: i would assume they house the same stuff... just different protocol for sending it back and forth... so there shouldnt be a problem
[09:58] <Jan_> But Totem produces the same error.
[09:59] <NSK> I would like to migrate a system from SUSE LINUX 9.3 Pro with KDE with to Ubuntu with GNOME, while keep using the same basic software (KMail and Konqueror) and also migrating my email and mail settings. Would just copying my KDE settings directory to Ubuntu work?
[09:59] <P229> hablandocontigo: I would try backing up xorg.conf, then deleting it (not the backup) and running Xorg -configure again
[09:59] <zarkoth> what if I keep getting this message - "Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:59] <zarkoth> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:59] <zarkoth> is only available from another source
[09:59] <zarkoth> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[09:59] <zarkoth> "
[09:59] <npfet> hi.. is there a (relatively) easy way to setup postfix so all mail for the localhost is forwarded to a single address?
[10:00] <P229> hablandocontigo: if that doesn't work, there's something bigger going on
[10:00] <Bad_Magic> Jan_: http://ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback
[10:00] <hablandocontigo> P229 okay
[10:00] <Bateau_> how can i change to ISO-8859-15 in irssi?
[10:00] <Jan_> grumble
[10:00] <Jan_> apt seems as shitty as RPM
[10:00] <tristanmike> Bad_Magic, stop advising people to use ubuntuguide
[10:00] <Bad_Magic> why exactly?
[10:00] <Riddell> NSK: yes, copying over ~/.kde should be fine.  take a backup first.  you'll also need to copy over any e-mail directories
[10:00] <tristanmike> !ubotu tell Bad_Magic about ubuntuguide
[10:00] <NSK> Riddell: thanks
[10:01] <deFrysk> Bad_Magic, ubuntuguide is like your name
[10:01] <Chris_Tucker> When i try to print to a networked printer, by following this guide: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing.html#printing_to_windows , nothing shows up in the printer queue on the windows computer, and nothing prints
[10:01] <Bad_Magic> sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 got dvd playback working for me
[10:01] <P229> hablandocontigo: oh... after installing the nvidia-glx package, did you run "nvidia-glx-configure enable" ?
[10:01] <Chris_Tucker> how do i fix this problem?
[10:01] <Jan_> Bad_Magic: I am concerned that "hoary" appears in the config line I was told to use
[10:01] <Jan_> but I'm not using it
[10:02] <daejavu> how do u get to run .wma  music/videos files on ur media players ?
[10:02] <P229> Bad_Magic: I don't think libdvdcss is in the repos for 5.10 yet (least I couldn't find it)
[10:02] <kitschx> Bad_Magic, deFrysk: still doesnt work. this time i completely removed the backport repositories and installed mozilla-firefox
[10:02] <Jan_> Oh great.
[10:02] <Jan_> Well, no DVD playback yet.
[10:02] <tristanmike> Jan_, maybe you should consider downloading Hoary and installing that, it is stable, Breezy will be released offically oct 13
[10:02] <Jan_> Grumble.
[10:02] <deFrysk> kitschx, also removed mozilla-firefox first ?
[10:02] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, are you using totem or totem-xine?
[10:02] <P229> Jan_: did you run install-css.sh?
[10:02] <kitschx> deFrysk: yes
[10:02] <Bateau_> how can i change the character set to ISO-8859-15 in irssi?
[10:03] <Jan_> tristanmike: we were told to use Breezy. I'm sure if we download Hoary someone will tell us to use Breezy. It's a vicious circle with Linux.
[10:03] <kitschx> deFrysk: not complete removal though
[10:03] <Jan_> Mr_Flibble: Totem
[10:03] <Jan_> P229: Yes.
[10:03] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, use totem-xine, it works
[10:03] <deFrysk> kitschx, I thought you told me you did not use the backports ?
[10:03] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, totem sorta really doesn't
[10:03] <Bad_Magic> Jan_: Breezy is in beta release atm... as in its not finished yet
[10:03] <Jan_> do I have totem-xine?
[10:03] <kitschx> deFrysk: i thought i didnt, but i checked it and it seems like i did
[10:03] <NSK> Bateau_: I don't know but maybe people in #irssi can answer this question
[10:03] <Mr_Flibble> breezy is so close to final now that almost everything works
[10:03] <deFrysk> kitschx, I would purge it
[10:04] <kitschx> allright
[10:04] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, aptitude install totem-xine
[10:04] <Jan_> I think we got breezy because it is supposed to have better laptop support
[10:04] <Jan_> but it doesn't hibernate
[10:04] <deFrysk> kitschx, and read the link in the topic , it tells you what to do
[10:04] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, yep, so its fine - just work this problem or wait for 10 days when its final
[10:04] <kitschx> deFrysk, ok
[10:04] <xmms> yes
[10:04] <tristanmike> Jan_, haha, that's too bad, don't listen to them, I recommend using the stable release, I do, it's fine, untill you start to know a little bit more of what to do, I would stay with the stable releases
[10:04] <steely> tristanmike:  my snes9x still isn't showing up in synaptic
[10:05] <tristanmike> steely, you added the repos?
[10:05] <steely> yup
[10:05] <Jan_> E: could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg.lock - open (13 permission denied)
[10:05] <Bad_Magic> did you update?
[10:05] <Jan_> Update WHAT.
[10:05] <Bad_Magic> not you jan
[10:05] <Jan_> I've got like ten people telling me "run this, update that"
[10:05] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, sudo aptitude install totem-xine
[10:05] <Jan_> Mr_Flibble: It provokes the error I listed
[10:05] <Jan_> and one other
[10:05] <tristanmike> steely, are you stuck on snes9x? would you consider Zsnes?
[10:05] <Jan_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory
[10:05] <Bad_Magic> Jan_ do you have synaptic open?
[10:06] <P229> let's elect one person to help out Jan_
[10:06] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, its because synaptic is open
[10:06] <steely> i'm just trying to install my first app
[10:06] <Jan_> Is it?
[10:06] <hablandocontigo> P229 the exact error I still get is "Missing output drivers. Configuration failed." this'll be fun, I'll google it in links2
[10:06] <steely> i'm stuck on any snes
[10:06] <steely> hehe
[10:06] <steely> would znes be easier?
[10:06] <P229> hablandocontigo: what nvidia package did you install?
[10:07] <Bad_Magic> Jan_: When synaptic is open it "locks" all the files its using.... if you have it open close it and then run that command again
[10:07] <hablandocontigo> P229 mostly of them, one moment
[10:07] <tristanmike> steely, yes, I think so, plus it's better but that's in my own opinion
[10:07] <Jan_> any time I try to install stuff, it just says lots of things along the lines of "couldn't stat source package list...." then a URL
[10:07] <Jan_> followed by "couldn't find package xine-ui" orwhatever
[10:07] <steely> i'll see if it's at the debian oldlibrary site
[10:07] <Jan_> God this is worse than RPM
[10:07] <hablandocontigo> nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-settings, these are from memor how do I show installed packges?
[10:08] <P229> hablandocontigo: all you should need is nvidia-glx
[10:08] <pandrew> Hello. I saw on the ubuntu site that they send FREE cds. Why do they do that , and how do they get the money for it?
[10:08] <deFrysk> Jan_, nothing is worse then rpm
[10:08] <Jan_> I added a line to sources.list
[10:08] <Jan_> but I'm not sure it's right
[10:08] <hablandocontigo> P229 I will uninstall rest
[10:08] <Jan_> so what am I doing
[10:08] <P229> pandrew: they're trying to gain market share, and I think they make money with support contracts
[10:08] <kitschx> deFrysk: is there a difference between purging and removing software?
[10:09] <kamiro1987> hello. does anyone know how ti get mp3's working?
[10:09] <kamiro1987> in ubuntu
[10:09] <Mr_Flibble> I saw the Mark Shuttleworth video from a recent debconf, he basically says that ubuntu doesn't make money (yet), and maybe won't ever
[10:09] <P229> !mp3
[10:09] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[10:09] <hablandocontigo> P229 nvidia-glx includes nvidia-kernel-common and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-8-386
[10:09] <deFrysk> kitschx, there indeed is , read man apt-get
[10:09] <kamiro1987> thankyou!
[10:09] <Jan_> anyone? please? or do I just install XP?
[10:09] <P229> hablandocontigo: then you want those
[10:10] <deFrysk> Jan_, be viral use XP ;p
[10:10] <pandrew> P229: so, it is perfectly ok to order from them (anything legal, anything i need to know?)
[10:10] <Jan_> OK, forget DVD.
[10:10] <hablandocontigo> P229 alright, now that I've reinstalled them, what is the next step?
[10:10] <tristanmike> steely, r u there?
[10:10] <P229> Jan_: same problem?
[10:10] <Jan_> What about hibernation.
[10:10] <Mr_Flibble> Jan_, XP doesn't play css video either heh:
[10:10] <deFrysk> Jan_, past your sources.list in pastebin please
[10:10] <Jan_> pastewhat?
[10:10] <Jan_> oh I know
[10:10] <Jan_> which one
[10:10] <deFrysk> Jan_, see topic the link is there
[10:10] <steely> tristanmike:  i just downloaded znes
[10:10] <P229> !dvd
[10:10] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[10:11] <tristanmike> steely, " wget http://sethkinast.com/ubuntu/hoary/b...4ubp1_i386.deb " without the quotes
[10:11] <Jan_> where is sources.list
[10:11] <bur[n] er> anyone familiar with using evolution & exchange in Breezy?
[10:11] <P229> hablandocontigo: nvidia-glx-configure enable
[10:11] <P229> as root
[10:11] <steely> at the command prompt?
[10:11] <steely> as root?
[10:11] <tristanmike> steely, yes
[10:11] <Necrosan> Can I use a 5.04 cd to get to breezy? or should i download the 5.10 rel?
[10:11] <bimberi> Jan_: /etc/apt
[10:11] <deFrysk> jan /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:11] <tristanmike> steely, NOT IN THE ROOT TERMINAL
[10:11] <Jan_> OK
[10:12] <tristanmike> steely, just in the regular terminal
[10:12] <Jan_> paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2520
[10:12] <steely> ok
[10:12] <deFrysk> tristanmike, caps caps caps
[10:12] <steely> hehe
[10:12] <steely> got ya worried
[10:12] <Necrosan> And what's Colony 5?
[10:12] <pandrew> P229: so, it is perfectly ok to order from them (anything legal, anything i need to know?)
[10:12] <sydw> Does anyone know why policy editing in firestarter is disabled by default?
[10:12] <tristanmike> deFrysk, I know, I had to stress not to run in root terminal
[10:12] <tristanmike> deFrysk, sorry
[10:12] <deFrysk> tristanmike, just kidding
[10:12] <tristanmike> lol
[10:12] <steely> hehe
[10:13] <P229> pandrew: yep, they don't ship anything they can't legally ship
[10:13] <thoreauputic> sydw: it isn't - right click inthe boxes
[10:13] <pandrew> P229: ok, thanks
[10:13] <deFrysk> Jan_, you have commented out most of your sources
[10:13] <deFrysk> Jan_, so this does not work
[10:13] <P229> hablandocontigo: did that work without any errors?
[10:13] <Jan_> I didn't comment anything out
[10:14] <krisp|ubuntu> hi guys
[10:14] <Jan_> what does "comment out" mean? :)
[10:14] <hablandocontigo> P229 are there any modules I have to switch off/on like I did setting up nvidia drivers for Debian? there are errors
[10:14] <deFrysk> Jan_, probaabluy you did that with synaptic
[10:14] <krisp|ubuntu> how do I update my system - I'm a real nooB
[10:14] <hablandocontigo> stuff like modules unresolved
[10:14] <P229> hablandocontigo: no, getting the nvidia drivers working for me was very simple. what were the errors?
[10:14] <P229> oh
[10:14] <steely> tristanmike:  i got some 404 errors
[10:15] <krisp|ubuntu> and is there any way to reduce visual styling to make it run faster?
[10:15] <Jan_> deFrysk: I ask once again, what's Synaptic
[10:15] <tristanmike> steely, after what? the wget line?
[10:15] <P229> hablandocontigo: sorry I left out the "sudo"... the command should be "sudo nvidia-glx-configure enable"
[10:15] <bimberi> Jan_: the programs using the file will ignore anything after the '#' character on a line
[10:15] <Necrosan> Well?
[10:15] <Necrosan> is someone gonna tell me what it is?
[10:15] <steely> yeah
[10:15] <deFrysk> Jan_, I'll make a correct one a sec please
[10:15] <kitschx> deFrysk, i did apt-get remove [all mozilla pkgs]  --purge, and reinstalled mozilla-firefox and gnome support, but it still doesnt work. somebody suggested i should temporarily move ~/.mozilla and restart, maybe i should try it...
[10:15] <P229> hablandocontigo: or did you run that command as root?
[10:15] <tristanmike> steely, it must be down right now
[10:16] <steely> what did that command do?
[10:16] <steely> besides nothing, heh
[10:16] <hablandocontigo> P229 I did that w/ sudo. one error is  xauth: error in locking authority file /home/myusername/.Xauthority
[10:16] <tristanmike> steely, wget is like saying "go to this website and get this package"
[10:17] <Jan_> Why do they supply a nonworking sources.list with Ubuntu?
[10:17] <ericz> anybody heard of a linux usb cable driver (for cell phone management) called ACM?
[10:17] <steely> essentially downloading stuff w/o firefox?
[10:17] <P229> hablandocontigo: hang on, let me start up my ubuntu machine
[10:17] <tristanmike> steely, I suppose, yes
[10:17] <hablandocontigo> P229 okay, thanks
[10:17] <Kyral> steely, wget is the cool way to download stuff ;P
[10:18] <steely> i'm not quite that cool yet
[10:18] <oO[NOVA] Oo> and an automated way to do so
[10:18] <tristanmike> Kyral, ;)
[10:18] <tristanmike> steely, your name is like Steely Dan, so you are very cool
[10:18] <deFrysk> Jan_, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2521 should work fine
[10:18] <P229> hablandocontigo: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:18] <Kyral> or just if you are downloading ISOs, pop to a VT, login, and then set the wget :P
[10:18] <kataklysm> hey everyone
[10:18] <steely> steely dan will forever be the greatest
[10:18] <Jan_> What did you change?
[10:18] <steely> i was born listening to pretzel logic
[10:19] <tristanmike> steely, see, cool as ice
[10:19] <Kyral> Anyone know if I should let Seahorse be configured to have SUID root?
[10:19] <deFrysk> Jan_, someone else did something in your source.list hence the hoary extras , is that correct ?
[10:19] <hablandocontigo> P229 5.10 : P
[10:20] <Jan_> deFrysk: That's what wiki.ubuntu.com said to do
[10:20] <hablandocontigo> P229 nvidia worked in 4.10 but 5.10 was using nv as default
[10:20] <Jan_> I did question it at the time
[10:20] <Jan_> but everyone was busy
[10:20] <deFrysk> Jan_, but you commented all the others
[10:20] <hablandocontigo> P229 I also had problems on windows when I upgraded my nvidia driver; I had to grab the beta for windows for my tnt2 riva
[10:20] <Mr_Flibble> deFrysk: I think the lines comes pre commented when you install from CD
[10:20] <deFrysk> could you copy the sources.list provided in that link into /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[10:21] <deFrysk> Mr_Flibble, not all of them
[10:21] <Jan_> I made the edits specified here:
[10:21] <Jan_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-ae79fed9d60ccdf06f400ae76ad53867d94bb2b8
[10:21] <Jan_> where does it keep "desktop" stuff?
[10:21] <Jan_> firefox downloaded that file to desktop
[10:21] <Jan_> and I don't know where that is
[10:21] <stpere> /home/Jan_/Desktop
[10:21] <kataklysm> deFrysk: you could overwrite a sources.list with that, yes
[10:21] <selinium> Hi guys, i have got winetools install but i cant seem to get rid of it.. Any ideas?
[10:21] <P229> hablandocontigo: you upgraded from 4.10?
[10:21] <Jan_> the user is called "morat"
[10:21] <thoreauputic> Jan_: note the upper case in that
[10:21] <hablandocontigo> P229 another yes : P
[10:22] <deFrysk> Jan_,  cd Desktop
[10:22] <krisp|ubuntu> guys - how to I get vnc working in ubuntu?
[10:22] <kataklysm> cd $HOME/Dekstop
[10:22] <krisp|ubuntu> please someone help :)
[10:22] <deFrysk> Jan_,  is the file on your deskopt now ?
[10:22] <Jan_> ok, copied that across to sources.list
[10:22] <deFrysk> good jan :)
[10:22] <selinium> winetools says it isn't installed but it is there if I 'wine+tab'
[10:22] <selinium> How do i get rid
[10:22] <selinium> ?
[10:22] <Jan_> yes, we did sudo cp /home/morat/Desktop/post_2521.txt /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:22] <deFrysk> now apt-get update
[10:22] <deFrysk> Jan_,
[10:23] <kataklysm> Jan_ are you using Breezy???
[10:23] <Jan_> Yes
[10:23] <kataklysm> ok
[10:23] <Jan_> It says "E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 permission deined)"
[10:23] <kataklysm> then just apt-get update like deFrysk said
[10:23] <P229> hablandocontigo: can you delete your .Xauthority file?
[10:23] <hablandocontigo> P229 will try
[10:23] <Jan_> then "E: Unable to lock the list directory"
[10:23] <deFrysk> Jan_, use sudo , close synaptic
[10:24] <Jan_> I never had synaptic open
[10:24] <krisp|ubuntu> guys?
[10:24] <krisp|ubuntu> any thoughts>?
[10:24] <deFrysk> use sudo
[10:24] <Jan_> OK, still a couple 404s, but mainly OK
[10:24] <kataklysm> do you have aptitude open?
[10:24] <stormie> hi, is there a way to install gcc from the ubuntu cd?
[10:24] <deFrysk> Jan_, sudo  apt-get update
[10:24] <kataklysm> yea sudo apti-get
[10:24] <hablandocontigo> P229 did that, I will try startx
[10:24] <Jan_> it's working
[10:24] <alucard> kaneis ellhnas?
[10:24] <kataklysm> -i
[10:24] <Jan_> a few 404s
[10:24] <Jan_> but it's mainly downloading stuff.
[10:24] <thoreauputic> stormie: install build-essential
[10:24] <hablandocontigo> P229 : ) that eliminated one of the errors
[10:25] <chx> Ubuntu Breezy and Skype. Anyone running it?
[10:25] <hablandocontigo> P229 is it safe to delete .xinitrc?
[10:25] <Jan_> Then a whole load of failures like "W: couldn't stat source package list..." and a URL
[10:25] <deFrysk> Jan_, I forgot to comment the backport extra would you please do that and then try agasin ?
[10:25] <deFrysk> again
[10:25] <Jan_> what the what?
[10:25] <kataklysm> build-essential didnt come with all the gcc stuff when i did it
[10:25] <stormie> can i do that without reinstalling ubuntu?
[10:25] <kataklysm> stormie yes
[10:25] <thoreauputic> kataklsym7413: what was missing?
[10:25] <Jan_> oh, you want me to put a # before the line I put in?
[10:25] <marska> Howdy.. I was wondering when the Ubuntu boards will be back up?
[10:25] <sydw> thoreauputic, thanks!
[10:26] <deFrysk> Jan_, deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted needs to be commented out
[10:26] <kataklysm> you need to get make, build-essential, and i'm pretty sure a gcc off the repos
[10:26] <deFrysk> in your sources.list
[10:26] <Jan_> OK done
[10:26] <Jan_> Now apt-get update runs with no errors
[10:26] <kataklysm> i can look and make sure
[10:26] <deFrysk> now again apt-get update
[10:26] <stormie> hmm
[10:26] <kitschx> deFrysk: im gonna try temporarily moving ~/.mozilla, restart and see if theres any difference then
[10:26] <deFrysk> Jan_, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:26] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: doesn't match my experience at all ...
[10:26] <JustSteve> hey, i am having trouble with video playback being choppy in Totem(playing an xvid avi) i have dma turned on for all my drives. does anyone have any suggestions?
[10:26] <Jan_> don't I already HAVE ubuntu-desktop?
[10:26] <stormie> so how do i go about installing these from the cd?
[10:26] <Noah0504> Will someone explain to me the way Linux is set up?  I'm so use to Windows, and I feel it's a bit more organized.  A Certain folder for programs, documents, system files...Linux is just scattered all over the place--well, it seems that way...
[10:27] <deFrysk> jack-, I thought you had removed mozilla firefox ?
[10:27] <Jan_> anyway, shouldn't that be ubuntu-laptop :)
[10:27] <thoreauputic> Noah0504: not at all - just a different organising method
[10:27] <Madpilot> Noah0504: the operating system itself in Linux keeps track of more stuff, so you don't have to as much
[10:27] <deFrysk> Jan_, ubuntu-deskop
[10:27] <Jan_> it's working
[10:27] <deFrysk> stry it please
[10:27] <deFrysk> good
[10:27] <Jan_> But we must get hibernation working
[10:28] <Jan_> that's non negotiable
[10:28] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: depends on what your building,  i had to have gcc-3.4 and gcc-4.0  in breezy, and they were'nt auto flagged by build essential, also i got make and MAKEDEV...   build-essential didnt come with everything
[10:28] <deFrysk> Jan_, also do a dist-upgrade
[10:28] <Jan_> how?
[10:28] <Noah0504> Well, would I be safe just keeping pretty much all of my stuff in my Home folder?
[10:28] <deFrysk> \when desktop is done , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:28] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: Iah, OK you had more specialised needs
[10:28] <kataklysm> build-essential is just that, essential stuff
[10:28] <hablandocontigo> P229 "failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)" should the nvidia-glx-config resolve that? I will try
[10:28] <Jan_> OK
[10:28] <Jan_> what will that do
[10:28] <Jan_> upgrade the whole OS?
[10:28] <deFrysk> Jan_, update breezy to the latest
[10:28] <Madpilot> Noah0504: that's where you're supposed to keep your own files, pretty much.
[10:28] <Kromonos> how to rename discs at computer:/// ??
[10:29] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: yup
[10:29] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: yea but its pretty common that most people need those things
[10:29] <waseem> hi, im trying to set up my wireless network on linux on my laptop. the hard drive is partitioned with Windows and the internet is already set up on that, I was wondering if anyone knew how to make it work on linux
[10:29] <mopatop> anyone know if there's a boot parameter for the hoary install that will let me install with a linux 2.6 kernel? sata problems
[10:29] <gytis> hi everybody
[10:29] <kataklysm> it'd be nice if they were in build-essential
[10:29] <P229> hablandocontigo: sorry, I'm back
[10:29] <sydw> The person I installed ubuntu for now cannot access google.ca, google.com, or googlesyndication.com, even though all those sites can be ping'ed. What could be going on? Other sites (that don't contain google references) can be viewed no problem.
[10:29] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: "make" is included, actually
[10:29] <marska> Where are the Universal archives located? (This Ubunut vs. Debian compatibility thing is atrocious)
[10:30] <selinium> Hi guys I install winetools from a walktrough in the forum, the forum is down at the mo. Apt and dpkg are unaware of the install. How do i get rid of it?
[10:30] <sydw> telnet www.google.com 80 just sites there connecting and never times out
[10:30] <gytis> where could I get the java-package? should I add some repository to my source.list? which one? thanks
[10:30] <Jan_> OK, ubuntu-desktop is done
[10:30] <hablandocontigo> P229 okay my latest error is "Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)
[10:30] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: hmm in breezy i installed make and build-essential seperate, never got any errors
[10:30] <deFrysk> selinium, wait till the forum is back up and ask there i guess
[10:30] <hablandocontigo> P229 after deleting xinitrc, xorg.conf and Xauthority
[10:30] <Jan_> Woah, dist-upgrade is 76 megs!
[10:30] <concept10> im about to upgrade breezy ... (crosses fingers)
[10:30] <denn_> anyone know how to get ytmnd's to work in ubuntu?
[10:30] <hablandocontigo> P229 and even after sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:31] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: usually it will say so and so is part of another package....
[10:31] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: well, you wouldn't get an error installing make expliitly
[10:31] <concept10> Jan_: to upgrade to breezy?
[10:31] <Noah0504> I'm going to attempt to make the switch to Linux, so I'm just asking about the simple stuff I suppose.
[10:31] <selinium> deFrysk, ok cheers
[10:31] <ericz> anyone heard of like a usb cable driver ACM?
[10:31] <Jan_> concept10: to upgrade the breezy I already have
[10:31] <P229> hablandocontigo: Xorg -configure
[10:31] <deFrysk> Jan_, is doing a proper update
[10:31] <ericz> anyone :-/ ?
[10:31] <mopatop> anyone know if there's a boot parameter for the hoary install that will let me install with a linux 2.6 kernel? sata problems
[10:31] <kitsch> deFrysk: after i moved .mozilla to a temporary dir, restarted and then moved  it back again, firefox works fine. you should write that in your blog :) thanks a million for your time
[10:31] <boxerboy29> defrysk: im gonna assume and say that the apt-get dist-upgrade conbines in the updates we get everyday?
[10:32] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: in hoary apt-cache depends shows gcc g++ make and dpkg-dev
[10:32] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: i cant argue that fact lol, i just know when i set up my machine i installed everything i knew i might need, so i wouldnt have to go back and do it later
[10:32] <bimberi> mopatop: hoary installs a 2.6 kernel by default
[10:32] <sydw> ericz, ACM Association for Computing Machinery?
[10:32] <concept10> im about to do dist-upgrade, i hope it doesnt bork my system
[10:32] <deFrysk> kitsch, thank the blogger, not me ;)
[10:32] <ericz> uhh no
[10:32] <hablandocontigo> P229 gives me the "no output driver error"
[10:32] <ericz> just a driver or something for usb data cable
[10:32] <ericz> for a samsung cell phone
[10:32] <mopatop> bimberi: oh.. shit, that's not good news :)
[10:32] <kitsch> deFrysk: thought it was you, but thanks anyway :)
[10:32] <Jan_> This is the eqivalent of Windows Update, right?
[10:32] <krisp|ubuntu> anyone feel like helping get vnc sorted?
[10:32] <hablandocontigo> P229 "missing output drivers"*
[10:32] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: sure - I'm not arguing - more curious as to what differences breezy might have :)
[10:32] <mopatop> Jan_: no Windows Update is the equivalent of this, but ye :P
[10:32] <Andrew> seveas, you there?
[10:33] <concept10> whoa - 517 packages
[10:33] <bimberi> mopatop: i know, sorry i'm not experienced with sata issues
[10:33] <deFrysk> kitsch, glad I could guide you ;)
[10:33] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: seems like quiet a few actually!
[10:33] <creart> Hey all... which package would you favour for getting Quicktime ??
[10:33] <mopatop> bimberi: that's okay :)
[10:33] <Jan_> what are our actual chances of getting it to hibernate properly?
[10:33] <P229> Seveas: think you might be able to lend a hand to hablandocontigo ?
[10:33] <mopatop> Jan_: slim heh
[10:33] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: i never used hoary, but I have seen a lot of things in here that makes me glad i didnt haha
[10:33] <Jan_> Then this is probably all a total waste of time
[10:33] <Jan_> I was told it'd work
[10:33] <deFrysk> Jan_, not really , windows updates are late non effective and bloated
[10:33] <Jan_> Bloated, god, this dist-update is 76 meg
[10:33] <Chris_Tucker> Yikes!
[10:33] <Chris_Tucker> my lag is up around 30s
[10:33] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: i have used debian woody and sarge a lot, but breezy puts them both under the table imo
[10:34] <krisp|ubuntu> anyone?
[10:34] <Noah0504> Okay, well, when I come back in about 45 minutes, I'll be in my fresh install of Ubuntu!
[10:34] <kamiro87> hello. i followed the insructions on the restrictedformats page but i'm getting some errors
[10:34] <Jan_> kamiro87: Me too.
[10:34] <bimberi> krisp|ubuntu: what is the problem?
[10:34] <deFrysk> Jan_, breezy is still under development , most of the updates are still bugfixes
[10:34] <kamiro87> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restrict/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[10:34] <kamiro87> Reading package lists... Done
[10:34] <kamiro87> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras/restrict Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-extras_restrict_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:34] <kamiro87> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[10:34] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: well actually hoary did as well ( i used to use woody and sid)
[10:34] <kamiro87> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:34] <krisp|ubuntu> bimberi,  I jsut don't know how on earth to set up a vnc server?
[10:34] <hablandocontigo> do I have to do anything special in knoppix to be able to move and edit my files on all more linux partitions just as if I were the normal user?
[10:34] <Chris_Tucker> i hate dialup
[10:34] <Jan_> God, what was THAT
[10:34] <deFrysk> kamiro87, see what topic says about backports ;)
[10:34] <Chris_Tucker> 46s!
[10:35] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: i found a cd i had back in school of slackware 3.2 lol
[10:35] <krisp|ubuntu> any ideas?
[10:35] <concept10> 848 upgraded, 283 newly installed, 48 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:35] <concept10> Need to get 585MB of archives.
[10:35] <bimberi> krisp|ubuntu: ah, ok, open synaptic and search for "vnc"
[10:35] <krisp|ubuntu> bimberi, already done
[10:35] <boxerboy29> concept10: going from hoary to breezy?
[10:35] <krisp|ubuntu> the boxes are green
[10:35] <concept10> boxerboy29: yes
[10:36] <concept10> Im scared to press 'y'
[10:36] <boxerboy29> dont be scared
[10:36] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: you could make a useful thin client with that and an old pentium ;)
[10:36] <deFrysk> concept10, then press "n"
[10:36] <concept10> heh
[10:36] <unkn0wn2u> does anyone get failed to initialize hal error on gnome statup
[10:36] <boxerboy29> breezy is a good  os
[10:36] <bimberi> krisp: do you have a preference for which vnc server to use, there are a few
[10:36] <krisp|ubuntu> bimberi,  no
[10:36] <krisp|ubuntu> I have jsut installed ubuntu
[10:36] <krisp|ubuntu> and have never used linux before
[10:36] <krisp|ubuntu> I'ma  windows convert
[10:36] <pablo928> krisp|ubuntu:you might check http://ubuntuguide.org. I believe it tells you how to setup vnc
[10:36] <krisp|ubuntu> bimberi,  feel like talking me through step by step :P?
[10:37] <Jan_> Us too, krisp
[10:37] <Jan_> And it's not been a great experience...
[10:37] <deFrysk> noooo NOT UBUNTUGUIDE!!!
[10:37] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: yes i thought of that!  actually me and one of my friends were thinking about setting up internet terminals at coffe shops
[10:37] <Jan_> Tons of stuff isn't expected to work.
[10:37] <boxerboy29> i didnt say it this time lmao
[10:37] <tristanmike> !ubotu tell pablo928 about ubuntuguide
[10:37] <deFrysk> pablo928, NOT UBUNTUGUIDE!!!
[10:37] <Madpilot> !tell krisp|ubuntu about vnc
[10:37] <Madpilot> !+ubuntuguide
[10:37] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[10:37] <bimberi> krisp|ubuntu: you might not need to install it at all then ... have a look at System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[10:37] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: remote X is a great way to recycle old boxen :)
[10:37] <abuntic> can someone help me my firefox seems to not work
[10:38] <bimberi> abuntic: /topic
[10:38] <kataklysm> thoreauputic: i know, its just the fact that the peripherals cost more than the whole pc is worth lol..
[10:38] <deFrysk> abuntic, read topic and never use backports again
[10:38] <deFrysk> ;p
[10:38] <thoreauputic> kataklysm: heh - true
[10:38] <bobokaka> hey all..
[10:38] <unkn0wn2u> does anyone get failed to initialize hal error on gnome statup
[10:38] <krisp|ubuntu> this is so tricky
[10:38] <boxerboy29> defrysk: what do back ports do and if bad why were they made?
[10:38] <pablo928> ubotu-I didn't know about ubuntuguide, I used it awhile ago to help me setup vnc
[10:38] <concept10> too bad the download is only 200 kb/s
[10:39] <boxerboy29> oh and should i delete mine
[10:39] <bimberi> krisp|ubuntu: did you look at Remote Desktop?
[10:39] <deFrysk> boxerboy29, made by outsiders and no support whet things go wrong there
[10:39] <tristanmike> pablo928, ubotu is a bot, not a person
[10:39] <deFrysk> when*
[10:39] <Jan_> Aw!
[10:39] <krisp|ubuntu> bimberi,  am there now
[10:39] <krisp|ubuntu> cheers
[10:39] <Jan_> I was TALKING to ubotu in private message!
[10:39] <krisp|ubuntu> how do I find out my IP?
[10:39] <Jan_> Grr!
[10:39] <selinium> can i just delete all installed foile to remove a program?
[10:39] <bobokaka> got a questy: I want to go linux. I have win XP on my PC, and I was wondering, if I can install ubuntu on a diffrent HD on my pc which will be only for linux?
[10:39] <boxerboy29> ok the multis are ok tho right?
[10:39] <Ninjew> Does anybody have any experience with setting up freenx?
[10:39] <deFrysk> Jan_, ubotu is nice but a bot
[10:39] <selinium> can i just delete all installed files to remove a program?
[10:39] <deFrysk> :D
[10:40] <boxerboy29> bobokaka: yes
[10:40] <bimberi> krisp|ubuntu: open a terminal and type "ip a"
[10:40] <selinium> krisp, ifconfig
[10:40] <Jan_> Gah. 52
[10:40] <concept10> boxerboy29: did you go from hoary to breezy?
[10:40] <bobokaka> how?
[10:40] <Jan_> 52 minutes to run dist-update
[10:40] <Jan_> Gruh.
[10:40] <deFrysk> boxerboy29, multi uni is fine yes
[10:40] <boxerboy29> concept i did but turned around and burned breezy
[10:40] <krisp> bimberi: yay I'm in
[10:40] <denn_> anyone know of alternative to OpenOffice?
[10:40] <concept10> Jan_: me too and I have cable
[10:40] <boxerboy29> defrysk: ty
[10:40] <thoreauputic> bimberi: may I /msg you briefly?
[10:40] <deFrysk> denn_, abiword :)
[10:40] <NSK> denn_: KOffice
[10:40] <pablo928> ubotu is a bot? I thought that was just a joke!
[10:40] <ubotu> pablo928: Are you smoking crack?
[10:40] <Jan_> denn_: There's a small company in Redmond, Washington who make some very competent office software.
[10:40] <bobokaka> boxerboy29: may I msg you?
[10:40] <deFrysk> no abiword
[10:41] <deFrysk> ;p
[10:41] <krisp> Is there anything I should install on my box? how do I make the hard drive readable from Windows Boxes?
[10:41] <kataklysm> what ever happened to the old Sun Star Office?
[10:41] <denn_> jan_, it doesn't work for linux
[10:41] <NSK> denn_: apart from OpenOffice.org there is KOffice, Gnumeric, and AbiWord
[10:41] <stpere> kataklysm, they still sell it
[10:41] <boxerboy29> bobokaka: may i ask what you are having problems with?
[10:41] <Jan_> krisp: The reason this laptop is not dual booting WinXP and Ubuntu is that Ubuntu can't read windows drives and windows can't read ubuntu drives
[10:41] <Jan_> it's a major problem
[10:41] <stpere> kataklysm, it's a rebranding of OpenOffice plus some minor modifications
[10:41] <denn_> i'll check them out, thanks
[10:41] <bobokaka> I'm a bit afraid of the whole installation thingy
[10:41] <stpere> they are at StarOffice 7.0
[10:41] <bimberi> krisp: you'll need samba for that
[10:41] <_jason> Hey, I want to make sure I keep my system organized.  Where should I put programs I install such as maple?
[10:41] <kataklysm> stpere: i remember it use to be packaged with all kinds of distros, now everything is abisuite or Openoffice
[10:41] <Jan_> one day they will get off their asses and write an NTFS driver for Linux
[10:41] <deFrysk> !tell Jan_ about ntfs
[10:41] <bimberi> ubotu tekk krisp about samba
[10:41] <ubotu> bimberi: Are you smoking crack?
[10:42] <Jan_> yes, deFrysk, I know but one that WORKS.
[10:42] <boxerboy29> bobokaka when you install ubuntu it will ask where you want to put it just put it on your other hard drive
[10:42] <bimberi> ubotu tell krisp about samba
[10:42] <Jan_> BOTH WAYS.
[10:42] <deFrysk> Jan_, read what ubotu send you
[10:42] <concept10> 480 packages to go... I need to reduce some of the packages on my system
[10:42] <kataklysm> is staroffice still pretty good?
[10:42] <tristanmike> Jan_, you make a FAT partition to share data
[10:42] <santium> how can i make apt-get use http mirrors instead of cd?
[10:42] <Jan_> tristanmike, no I don't.
[10:42] <Jan_> I use windows :(
[10:42] <stpere> kataklysm, yes, I use it sometimes
[10:42] <deFrysk> Jan_, windows will NEVER read linux
[10:42] <concept10> santium: # comment out the cd line
[10:42] <bimberi> santium: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the deb-cdrom line
[10:42] <stpere> kataklysm, it's really like OpenOffice
[10:42] <kataklysm> stpere: so they sell it? they dont provide source to it?
[10:43] <bobokaka> boxerboy29: and it won't interfere with windows and vice verse?
[10:43] <thoreauputic> bimberi: Ok to /msg you? Did you see my request above?
[10:43] <boxerboy29> not on seprate hard drives no
[10:43] <obontu> hello
[10:43] <tristanmike> Jan_, the FAT partition can be read to and written to by both Linux and Windows
[10:43] <bimberi> thoreauputic: sry, i didn't - please feel free :)
[10:43] <obontu> how do i update x-chat?
[10:43] <stpere> kataklysm, yep, they are selling it
[10:43] <thoreauputic> bimberi: OK :)
[10:43] <stpere> no sources
[10:43] <Jan_> deFrysk: Well, it should be easier to write an ext3 driver for NT than it is to write an NTFS drver for Linux
[10:43] <norhted> hi everybody, i have a boot problem, does anyone want to help?
[10:43] <concept10> after I upgrade to breezy, does it include the new boot sequence?
[10:43] <pablo928> deFrysk: but I did one thing opn a dual boot box, i setup a fat32 partition that i can read &write with either os
[10:44] <boxerboy29> that person that was asking about a different office that open office
[10:44] <deFrysk> Jan_, its not about ease it about M$ policy
[10:44] <boxerboy29> whats wrong with open office?
[10:44] <bobokaka> o.k. thank you.
[10:44] <boxerboy29> yw bobkaka
[10:44] <kataklysm> stpere: i didnt know that openoffice was mad by sun til just now, of course i never use office apps anymore lol...
[10:44] <bobokaka> oh, can I make windows not touch the linux drive?
[10:44] <Jan_> deFrysk: that's why linux can't have a decent NTFS driver, yeah, but that's NOT any reason why an ext3 driver couldn't be written for windows
[10:44] <boxerboy29> windows by default wont touch linux drive unless you do it
[10:44] <kataklysm> so i guess openoffice is considered staroffices open suite
[10:45] <Madpilot> Jan_: I think there is a ext2/ext3 driver for Windows already... ask Google
[10:45] <stpere> kataklysm, got it :-P
[10:45] <deFrysk> Jan_, then write one ;)
[10:45] <Artimus> When I try to run startx, it says that my NVIDIA kernel module is 1.0.7174, but the X module is 1.0.7667.
[10:45] <bobokaka> it automaticly puts the recycle bin and some other small system stuffs there
[10:45] <norhted> hello guys, i have a boot problem!!! :)
[10:45] <deFrysk> Madpilot, is there ?
[10:45] <tristanmike> Jan_, because Microsoft keeps all source code to themselves so it has to be reverse engineered by people like you and me
[10:45] <boxerboy29> bobokaka with 2 hard drives windows on one linux on the other windows and linux will never meet
[10:45] <Jan_> tristanmike: Like I keep saying, yes that's why Linux can't read NTFS.
[10:46] <Jan_> But that's no reason why there shouldn't be an ext3 driver for windows.
[10:46] <tristanmike> Jan_, no, that's why it can't write
[10:46] <Madpilot> deFrysk: I'm pretty sure I've heard other people mention it here... I'm Windows-free, so I haven't bothered looking into it...
[10:46] <kataklysm> well to write a driver for windows for filesystem compatability you have to have some windows source
[10:46] <kataklysm> or be a damn good guesser
[10:46] <norhted> Jan_, can you help me with my boot problem?
[10:46] <boxerboy29> bobokaka: hda and hdb are seprate hard drives the numbers after each one tell you what partion it is
[10:46] <deFrysk> Madpilot, we the free are loosing track of windows development I guess
[10:47] <kataklysm> thats why ext3 for windows is hard to get working....  but there are some 3rd party software to enable it, however i wouldnt recommend it
[10:47] <Chris_Tucker> Jan_: tristanmike, there is an ext3 access driver for windows, one minute i'll see if i can find the site i got it off of
[10:47] <bobokaka> should I make more than one partition for linux?
[10:47] <tristanmike> Jan_, I believe there is a program that will allow you to access a Linux filesystem, but to what extent I don't know, and where to get it....wait, Chris_Tucker will give you
[10:47] <kataklysm> bobokaka you at least need a / partition and a seperate /home  partition
[10:47] <Jan_> Given that ext3 is opensource, y'know...
[10:47] <Jan_> you'd have thought it oughta be possible
[10:48] <deFrysk> bobokaka,  a swap and a / will do , a /home is handy to have however
[10:48] <boxerboy29> bobokaka let the installer automaticlly make the partions just make sure if windows is on hda that you put and erase only hdb
[10:48] <norhted> kataklysm, i have winXP and Ubuntu, but experiencing problem with GRUB
[10:48] <sydw> Jan_, http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html is not Free as in Speech, but it is free as in beer
[10:48] <Chris_Tucker> oops, my bad, it appears what i have is only ext2
[10:48] <FX|Laptop> Hello
[10:48] <oneifreak> Jan_: http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html
[10:48] <kataklysm> ext3 is open source, but windows isnt,  its hard to write an app that access's the core of windows when you don't already have the code for how that core is laid out
[10:48] <FX|Laptop> Hey I have a question
[10:48] <oneifreak> Jan_: ext2 only
[10:48] <Madpilot> Jan_: the trouble is likely the other end - Windows not being opensource...
[10:48] <santium> why doesnt ' sudo apt-get install php4-mysql ' work anymore?
[10:48] <bobokaka> will the installer allow me to format the 2nd drive?
[10:48] <Jan_> of course it isn't opensource
[10:48] <FX|Laptop> Firefox failed on upgrade and now I cannot start it
[10:48] <Jan_> it's commercial
[10:49] <boxerboy29> bobokaka yes
[10:49] <FX|Laptop> any ideas on how to start it?
[10:49] <oneifreak> Jan_: but its usable with ext3
[10:49] <kataklysm> norhted: what kind of problems?
[10:49] <FX|Laptop> or upgrade it
[10:49] <deFrysk> FX|Laptop, topic and never use backports again!!
[10:49] <_jason> \topic
[10:49] <norhted> kataklysm, i installed ubuntu 5 minutes ago;
[10:49] <bobokaka> what do I need to do in order for the installer to NOT touch the 1st drive?
[10:49] <aigarius> I have seen somewhere an open source ext3 driver
[10:49] <boxerboy29> bobokaka it will ask you what hd you want to formatt and install linux on dont choose the same drive that windows is on
[10:50] <tristanmike> Jan_, here is a program that will let you copy files from your Linux system to WindowsOS, read more to find out if it suits your needs. http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
[10:50] <norhted> kataklysm, i have a winXP which installed on primary slave drive
[10:50] <Chris_Tucker> EXT2IFS is an Installable File System Driver (IFS) for Microsoft Windows NT 4.0,
[10:50] <Chris_Tucker> Microsoft Windows 2000 (NT 5.0) and Microsoft Windows XP (NT 5.1)
[10:50] <Chris_Tucker> The driver can read the Second Extended File System (EXT2) and Third Extended
[10:50] <Chris_Tucker> File System (EXT3). The driver is read only.
[10:50] <kataklysm> aigarius: there are a few ext3 drivers for windows, they are experimental just like the ntfs drivers for linux
[10:50] <boxerboy29> bobokaka yoiu dont need anything except knowledge of where windows is and where you wan tto put linux
[10:50] <bobokaka> how can I know the diffrence between them?
[10:50] <deFrysk> Chris_Tucker, dond flood you'll be banned de4 you know it
[10:50] <durt> how do you get a game to work with wine, and the cd has to be in when you play, and it cant find the cd?
[10:50] <Chris_Tucker> Jan_: tristanmike, read what i pasted
[10:51] <boxerboy29> is windows on the "master hard drive"?
[10:51] <norhted> kataklysm, but when i started, i saw the windows' boot page instead of grup; it has winlilo and winxp options
[10:51] <bobokaka> yes
[10:51] <bobokaka> well actualy
[10:51] <boxerboy29> ok than windows is on hda
[10:51] <tristanmike> Chris_Tucker, nice, check out the program I posted
[10:51] <norhted> kataklysm, both selection open the windows,
[10:51] <kataklysm> Chris_Tucker: i got fussed at for taking someones side that pasted a few simple lines yesterday, and i got kicked for doing so, so i  will just warn ya they get all mad for pasting in here!
[10:51] <boxerboy29> do not erase that one
[10:51] <bobokaka> I didn't put the second drive in the comp yet
[10:51] <boxerboy29> just go slow and read
[10:51] <oneifreak> Chris_Tucker: http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html gives you _read_ and _write_
[10:51] <Chris_Tucker> deFrysk: i am not flooding. i am assisting
[10:51] <Jan_> Anyway  - what do we do about hibernating this thing
[10:51] <Jan_> suspend to RAM would be fine
[10:51] <norhted> kataklysm, i deleted the first one, then, i checked the BIOS,
[10:52] <kataklysm> Winlilo?
[10:52] <bobokaka> I will put it just before the first boot with the linux cd
[10:52] <zarkoth> It seems as though the apt-get refuses to work correctly for mp3 codecs, any ideas?
[10:52] <boxerboy29> well than you might want to do that unless you want windows and linux sharing hard drive and you sound like a newbie
[10:52] <kataklysm> ive never experienced linux editing my boot.ini
[10:52] <norhted> kataklysm, i dont know what it is, but it is something that ubuntu added to windwos boot.ini
[10:52] <FX|Laptop> anyone have any ideas about my firefox problem?
[10:52] <kataklysm> norhted: did you install GRUB to the MBR??
[10:52] <hablandocontigo> P229 strangley, I reboot and it's back to the way it was before I changed to nvidia driver
[10:52] <boxerboy29> i always let the partioner do its thing automaticlly
[10:52] <norhted> kataklysm, Yes i did
[10:52] <deFrysk> FX|Laptop, read the topic
[10:53] <boxerboy29> but when you share a drive you have to do it manually
[10:53] <kataklysm> norhted: try to change your boot order in the bios
[10:53] <bobokaka> what about the boot - will the installer set the boot choice program on its own?
[10:53] <Jan_> Hey, SAMBA works out of the box :)
[10:53] <Jan_> Spiffy, eh
[10:53] <norhted> kataklysm, yes i did it too, but now GRUB cannot load windowsXP; it says Unknown partition type
[10:53] <boxerboy29> yes grub should see windows and ask you where to put grub put it on the mbr
[10:53] <kataklysm> ahh
[10:54] <durt> whats wrong with backports?
[10:54] <norhted> kataklysm, do you think the entry in the windows' boot.ini really required by GRUB
[10:54] <Jan_> Whaaat! Totem doesn't come with an MP3 PLAYER?!?!
[10:54] <deFrysk> !tell durt about backports
[10:54] <bobokaka> I know what is a MBR but I don't think I know where it is..
[10:54] <Madpilot> Jan_: you need to install mp3 codecs
[10:54] <Jan_> What? Why?
[10:54] <Madpilot> !tell Jan_ about mp3
[10:54] <kataklysm> norhted: it almost sounds like you installed lilo and grub both
[10:54] <Jan_> Ubuntu doesn't COME with any? God!
[10:54] <deFrysk> !tell Jan_ about mp3
[10:54] <shawnz> could not open default font 'fixed'
[10:54] <boxerboy29> MBR= master boot record
[10:54] <shawnz> uh
[10:54] <deFrysk> darn too late :s
[10:54] <lucaas> any good gtk ftp client, other than gftp?
[10:54] <zarkoth> of course it doesn't, it's all legal stuff
[10:54] <Madpilot> Jan_: legal bumpf - mp3 has patents on it
[10:54] <Jan_> Why on earth not?
[10:54] <bobokaka> that one I know
[10:54] <bur[n] er> Jan_: they can't
[10:54] <Jan_> Sure they can.
[10:55] <Jan_> Everyone else does.
[10:55] <shawnz> anyone been able to fix "could not open default font 'fixed'" error with xvnc?
[10:55] <norhted> kataklysm, :( opps, how did i do that :( i just followed the instructions
[10:55] <bur[n] er> Jan_: not legally
[10:55] <Madpilot> not legally, they can't
[10:55] <zarkoth> everyone else pays for it....
[10:55] <boxerboy29> if im remember right MBR =hda0
[10:55] <deFrysk> Jan_, read what ubotu send you
[10:55] <zarkoth> or does it illegally
[10:55] <kataklysm> norhted: i really dont have any idea
[10:55] <thegeekdom> Hey, I am considering ubuntu over suse.  I use spamassasin to control spam but did not see it in ubuntu.  Am I missing something.
[10:55] <durt> deFrysk, that didnt tell me whats wrong with backports
[10:55] <bur[n] er> thegeekdom: check universe and multiverse?
[10:55] <Madpilot> thegeekdom: it's in the Universe repos
[10:56] <kataklysm> if you could paste.ubuntulinux.nl   then i might could help ya norhted
[10:56] <bobokaka> so if my windows HD is splitted into 2 partitions, I can just put the grub anywhere I want?
[10:56] <thegeekdom> Universe ?
[10:56] <boxerboy29> thegeekdom: spamassasine in is in synaptic in ubuntu
[10:56] <bur[n] er> thegeekdom: it's in universe
[10:56] <norhted> kataklysm, :) ok thnx, i will try to add the entry in boot.ini; and if not work, i will reinstall the ubuntu :(
[10:56] <Madpilot> !tell thegeekdom about repos
[10:56] <deFrysk> durt, they are not supported there is no help when there are probs with them and they break your system, that enough ?
[10:56] <kataklysm> just paste your grub.conf and your boot.ini  norhted
[10:56] <Madpilot> thegeekdom: one of Ubuntu's repositories
[10:56] <zarkoth> But anyway, I've been working on installing those very same codecs...and they're mad at me
[10:56] <thegeekdom> OK
[10:56] <bur[n] er> boxerboy29: only if you give access to universe repositories
[10:56] <durt> yes, thank you defrysk
[10:56] <norhted> kataklysm, ok i will do that, thnx again
[10:56] <boxerboy29> correct
[10:56] <deFrysk> durt, yw
[10:56] <thegeekdom> What is the best way to control spam in ubuntu ?
[10:57] <boxerboy29> thats the first thing i do b4 i do updates when i install it
[10:57] <bur[n] er> thegeekdom: thunderbirds spam filter :)
[10:57] <thegeekdom> OK
[10:57] <bobokaka> whats norhted ?
[10:57] <kataklysm> hmm, Totem does have mp3 playback
[10:57] <norhted> bobokaka, sorry?
[10:57] <bur[n] er> evolution may have spam control too
[10:57] <thegeekdom> got it.  Thanks - out
[10:57] <bur[n] er> !tell kataklysm about mp3
[10:57] <bur[n] er> kataklysm: check your msgs :)
[10:57] <Madpilot> thegeekdom: you can run spamassassin if you want, it is available for Ubuntu - see the msg ubotu sent you
[10:57] <Jan_> SO how on earth do I get the mp3 decoder
[10:57] <tristanmike> durt, mostly backports are "wrong" is because they are completely and 100% unofficial and that means no support, you have to maintain everything yourself, could very well conflict with something important, just a few reasons I guess
[10:58] <Madpilot> Jan_: see the msg ubotu sent you a few minutes ago
[10:58] <tristanmike> this is from what I've gathered
[10:58] <deFrysk> !tell Jan_ about restricted formats
[10:58] <clyrrad> Anyone know why my breezy bnx freezes on 'Starting periodic command cheduler....' during boot?
[10:58] <clyrrad> scheduler*
[10:58] <kataklysm> why did i just get that autorespsonse saying mpeglayer3 is a restricted format???
[10:58] <bobokaka> oops, mistake...
[10:58] <deFrysk> kataklsym7413, because it is
[10:58] <kataklysm> all i said was totem does play them! and im in breezy too...
[10:58] <Madpilot> kataklysm: because somebody got ubotu to msg you
[10:58] <n0n3> hello
[10:59] <kataklysm> i understand that, but it still works...
[10:59] <bobokaka> boxerboy29: i should just put the grub anywhere I want as long as it in the windows HD (which is the MBR ..)
[10:59] <n0n3> can anybody help me i can't configure serial mouse in new ubuntu instalation...
[10:59] <Madpilot> kataklysm: of course, but mp3 support can't be included by default - you must've added the codecs
[10:59] <shawnz> 8-) so no one knows how to fix the 'fixed' font issue in xvnc?
[10:59] <boxerboy29> bobokaka: put it on the MBR it will ask you if you want it on MBR and will put it there automatically
[11:00] <bobokaka> oh. o.k.
[11:00] <bobokaka> last question - how long is the installation? (in average) ?
[11:00] <kataklysm> Madpilot: that i might have, i don't really know, i usually add all the codecs that i'm sure i will need sooner or later
[11:00] <Jan_> Hm
[11:00] <zone17> Hi, whats up with the mozilla-firefox update which keeps breaking? /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb (--unpack)
[11:00] <shawnz> bobokaka, bout 15 minutes or so.
[11:00] <boxerboy29> bobokaka: the installers job is to make your life a lil easier use it to do that
[11:00] <Jan_> that link only has "ripping or encoding" mp3s
[11:00] <deFrysk> bobokaka, on a current box , about 30 minutes
[11:00] <Jan_> I can't even play them back yet
[11:00] <deFrysk> bobokaka, probably less
[11:01] <bobokaka> o.k. thank you all and speacially boxerboy29 for helping me.
[11:01] <kataklysm> Jan_: add mp3, mp321, and libmad
[11:01] <boxerboy29> bobokaka first boot will install other things so add 20 minuties or so to the time the install takes
[11:01] <P229> how would I go about enabling DMA at startup?
[11:01] <boxerboy29> yw bobokaka
[11:01] <Jan_> kataklysm: how?
[11:01] <kemik> zone17:  topic
[11:01] <shawnz> again, does anyone have any clue on how to get vncserver/Xvnc working.
[11:01] <P229> specifically, DMA for my DVD drive
[11:02] <Owyhee> gang
[11:02] <zone17> kemik, thanks!
[11:02] <afaik> GANG!
[11:02] <hondje> P229: edit /etc/hdparm.conf
[11:02] <Owyhee> doesn't Ubuntu support dual processor machines?
[11:02] <mlopes_> hi. which is the package that contains mod_perl for apache2?
[11:02] <kataklysm> Jan_ they are on the repositories apt-get install mp3 mpeg321 libmad*
[11:03] <P229> hondje: thanks
[11:03] <kataklysm> i think its called mpeg321
[11:03] <kataklysm> just use synaptic and find those
[11:03] <kataklysm> lol
[11:03] <kemik> Jan_:  to playback mp3 you need to "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad"
[11:03] <Jan_> kataklsym7413: OKies.
[11:03] <Jan_> Ah see now this is one problem with Linux
[11:03] <boxerboy29> <<<one processor dont know about 2
[11:03] <Jan_> two people telling me utterly different things
[11:04] <Thorondor> hi, on my dell inspiron 5000e hoary 5.04 works fine with the default resolution 1400x1050, but when I switch to 1024x768 the screen is totally messed up. any hints what i could try out?
[11:04] <n0n3> can anybody help me i can't configure serial mouse in new ubuntu instalation...
[11:04] <Owyhee> I installed it fine but have only one CPU seen
[11:04] <Owyhee> thx boxer
[11:04] <kemik> Jan_:  two ways todo the same thing.. but there's no need for mpeg123 unless you're going to create your own mp3s etc
[11:04] <ggremlin> moin moin
[11:04] <upgrdman_> what repository do i need to have to get packages like avidemux and mplayer?
[11:04] <boxerboy29> i wish i knew man
[11:05] <kemik> Jan_:  and this "problem" isnt particular to linux, you'll see the same in windows.. 2 users will carry out the same task in different ways
[11:05] <emile> shawnz: goto system-preferences-remote desktop configure password etc. On client start vncviewer <ip>
[11:05] <hondje> mplayer is in multiverse
[11:05] <hondje> avidemux is in hoary-extras
[11:05] <segfault2k> hi :D
[11:05] <segfault2k> someone know why tcmplex is not in the transcode package in breezy?
[11:07] <transparentdream> What's a good n64 emulator for ubuntu?
[11:07] <upgrdman_> hondje, im new to the deb/ubuntu way of things... do i have to add those manually? i dont see them in my sources.list
[11:07] <kataklysm> Jan_: if you install the ones i said you wont ever have mp3 compatable warnings, if you have k3b then install k3b-mp3 too
[11:07] <hondje> upgrdman_: yes
[11:07] <durt> how do you disable the wine debugger?
[11:07] <hondje> !tell upgrdman_ about repos
[11:07] <segfault2k> someone know why tcmplex is not in the transcode package in breezy?
[11:08] <boxerboy29> hondje: do you have to have uni before adding multi?
[11:09] <shawnz> so uh, anyone got Xvnc to work in breezy.
[11:09] <ironwolf> shawnz: yes
[11:09] <shawnz> how can I fix the issue with the fixed font package thingy.
[11:09] <shawnz> uh, . == ?
[11:09] <FX|Laptop> hmmm
[11:10] <hondje> boxerboy29: nah, you don't but it's probably a good idea
[11:10] <FX|Laptop> followed the directions in the link and got firefox to remove and then install but it still will not start. :(
[11:10] <boxerboy29> hondje: thank you was just wondering
[11:10] <hondje> :)
[11:10] <zone17> Hi, I have just updated to firefox 1.0.7, when I try to start firefox nothing happens, where can I see what goes wrong?
[11:11] <transparentdream> how can i convert a 7zip file to a normal zip?
[11:11] <hondje> zone17: start it in a terminal...open it up and enter 'firefox' and hit enter
[11:11] <concept10> boy, I was wrong  - upgrade to breezy ummm about 1050 packages!
[11:11] <Thorondor> zone17, you could try to run it via console, just type "firefox"
[11:11] <zone17> FX|Leptop, seems like we have the same problem
[11:11] <boxerboy29> ok brb gonna puoll backports out and prey to god nothing happens :(
[11:11] <angryfix> Is there a way, using the default ssh program to view a file with syntax highlighting. Everytime I ssh into my other computer to edit some PHP files, there is no color when using vim.
[11:11] <zone17> I did - I get the same
[11:11] <upgrdman_> hondje, hum i have uni enable, but synaptic cant find a pkg names mplayer
[11:11] <zone17> console - firefox.. nothing
[11:11] <hondje> angryfix: :syntax on
[11:11] <kemik> zone17:  "ps aux | grep firefox"
[11:12] <opnsrc-conpiracy> transparentdream, think you have to unpack and recompress
[11:12] <flodine> breezy repositories dont have mplayer
[11:12] <hondje> upgrdman_: it's in multiverse
[11:12] <kemik> zone17:  and then "sudo kill -9 PID_OF_FIREFOX"
[11:12] <kemik> zone17:  and then start FF again
[11:12] <upgrdman_> hondje, o ok, i didnt see it in the list
[11:12] <angryfix> hondje: perfect! thanks.
[11:12] <upgrdman_> everything was already checked
[11:12] <transparentdream> How do I do that?
[11:12] <zone17> kemik, thanks! :-))
[11:12] <hondje> pkill firefox is easier :)
[11:12] <Thorondor> hi, on my dell inspiron 5000e hoary 5.04 works fine with the default resolution 1400x1050, but when I switch to 1024x768 the screen is totally messed up. any hints what i could try out?
[11:12] <zone17> kemik, why didn't i think of that dooh!
[11:12] <hondje> angryfix: No problem :) The setting to have it on my default is on the server you're ssh'd to, so to make it permanant you have to mess with the config there
[11:13] <tristanmike> zone17, did you read the topic?
[11:13] <zone17> yes
[11:13] <tristanmike> sorry, :)
[11:13] <upgrdman_> hondje, nm found it
[11:13] <upgrdman_> sorry
[11:13] <hondje> lol, NEVEr use backports again ;-)
[11:13] <zone17> but in my case I didn't have backports enabled
[11:13] <kemik> zone17:  i have no idea ;) (actually hade the same trubl last night myself)