[09:37] <speedy__> i hav atheros
[09:37] <Hilikus_> and that it takes more space than the others
[09:37] <caioborg> Enselic: nothing happens with that command and <TAB>
[09:37] <Bossmanbeta> hey Hilikus_ i'm not in the proslytizing business.... so use the filesystem of your choice... my statements stand.
[09:38] <caioborg> I will try to find the file manually
[09:38] <Enselic> caioborg: press Tab again to get all completions
[09:38] <Hilikus_> http://linuxgazette.net/122/TWDT.html#piszcz
[09:38] <Colro> that boot time is tasty.
[09:38] <Hilikus_> mount time i can see as important, otherwise it will slow down booting up
[09:38] <Enselic> caioborg: "manually"? not sure what you mean, but it sounds overly complicated :)
[09:38] <Hilikus_> total free space too
[09:39] <caioborg> Enselic: thanks again. Now I see. It only shows the name of the file right?
[09:39] <Bossmanbeta> Hilikus_, you're ill informed.
[09:39] <Hilikus_> Bossmanbeta look at the link i pasted
[09:39] <Hilikus_> look at the mount time benchmark
[09:39] <speedy__> i hav an atheros wireless card...wich driver does ubuntu use for that?
[09:39] <Colro> hmm
[09:39] <IndyGunFreak> that doesn't sound good...lol
[09:39] <Cyber_Stalker> gosh my sony digital camera is still not being detected when i plug it into the machine... can any one help me?
[09:39] <Enselic> caioborg: you mean Tab completion? well if there is an umabigous hit, it will be completed when pressing Tab. If there are many hits, one has to be more precise by adding a character and pressing tab again
[09:40] <mechdave> speedy__: try madwifi
[09:40] <cjae_> did someone catch my pastebin?
[09:40] <Enselic> caioborg: press Tab twice to get  all possible completions
[09:40] <speedy__> im tryin to set my wireless on monitor mode but i cant figure out how
[09:40] <MasterAslan> Having some trouble getting this to install again.  Install is stuck at detecting hardware please wait...  Loading module 'usb-storage' for USB Storage.  Its been stuck at that overnight as I thought I would leave it to see if ti would move on.  Any ideas?
[09:40] <smmagic> Can someone give me some help?
[09:40] <Enselic> speedy__: hmm it should be in monitor mode by default
[09:41] <caioborg> Enselic: sorry, I'm a completely noob in regard to Linux and English is not my first language. What you mean by completions?
[09:41] <Enselic> speedy__: but anyway:   sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode monitor
[09:41] <zeddicus> Isn't it /msg nick to send someone a message?
[09:41] <Enselic> speedy__: oh sorry, right, it is managed by default. monitor is needed to set manuallly
[09:41] <smmagic> When I type glxinfo | grep direct
[09:41] <speedy__> lol yea...how do i do that?
[09:41] <Enselic> zeddicus: yes but you need to identify yourself to NickServ
[09:42] <smmagic> It comes up  with
[09:42] <smmagic> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:42] <smmagic> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:42] <smmagic> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:42] <smmagic> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[09:42] <Enselic> speedy__: I gave you the comand, just fire up a terminal and type it
[09:42] <MasterAslan> caioborg: in your irc program if you type the first part of someones name and then press tab it will autocomplete the name
[09:42] <smmagic> Repeated so many times
[09:42] <speedy__> oh ok
[09:42] <Cyber_Stalker> gosh my sony digital camera is still not being detected when i plug it into the machine... can any one help me?
[09:42] <smmagic> Anyone know how to fix that?
[09:42] <caioborg> MasterAslan: thanks for the tip
[09:43] <caioborg> MasterAslan: I don't use IRC very often lol
[09:43] <Enselic> caioborg: in Linux, there is this concept of Tab completion. The idea is that whenever you are in a context where you have a limited set of possible things to write, you can typically press Tab to complete the thing you have written
[09:43] <biotrox> hey guys
[09:43] <biotrox> now i know why my ubuntu can't start on my laptop
[09:43] <biotrox> :((
[09:44] <Enselic> caioborg: for example in an IRC client you can use Tab completion on nicks. In a shell you can use Tab completion of commands and filenames, etc.
[09:44] <IndyGunFreak> biotrox: why?
[09:44] <Enselic> caioborg: saves you a lot of misspellings and writingtime
[09:44] <speedy__> i tried it but i gave me an error
[09:44] <perr> i whant to move my /media/sda6/istheshit to /media/sda8 from an terminal, what command should i use?
[09:44] <biotrox> The processor's too weak
[09:44] <Enselic> speedy__: please use the nick to the people you are talking to so that what you say is highigted in IRC
[09:44] <caioborg> Enselic: ahhhh, is like browser url autocompletion, right?
[09:44] <biotrox> no wonder it slow
[09:45] <IndyGunFreak> biotrox: ?..t hats pretty unlikely, whats the specs of the laptop?
[09:45] <Enselic> caioborg: well not quite, but it's the same concept
[09:45] <speedy__> oh ok
[09:45] <caioborg> Enselic: lol
[09:45] <biotrox> the specs of the laptop is Pentium Centrino M 1700GHz
[09:45] <Enselic> caioborg: just try Tab completion and youll see what I mean :)
[09:45] <IndyGunFreak> biotrox: lmao, that processor is not underpowered for Linux
[09:45] <speedy__> Enselic: i tried the command u gave me but it gave me an error
[09:45] <LinuxJuggalo> perr: mv /media/sda6/istheshit /media/sd8
[09:45] <IndyGunFreak> or Ubuntu
[09:45] <Enselic> speedy__: ok, what did it say?
[09:45] <caioborg> Enselic: hold on
[09:45] <IndyGunFreak> biotrox: my laptop is a 1ghz Compaq., and Ubuntu will run on it fine.
[09:46] <biotrox> i notice it when using top when it load gdmgreeter the proc say 99%
[09:46] <Enselic> speedy__: no such interface I suspect?
[09:46] <biotrox> IndyGunfreak don't know why
[09:46] <Enselic> speedy__: wlan0 was just a guess from my side, to find out the name of your interface, type   ifconfig   in a terminal
[09:46] <speedy__> Enselic: Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06)   SET failed on device ath0 ; Invalid argument.
[09:46] <biotrox> i just read the top command
[09:46] <Enselic> speedy__: ah ok you did that alrady
[09:46] <biotrox> and gdmgreeter uses 99% of the CPU
[09:46] <Enselic> speedy__: exactly what command did you use?
[09:46] <perr> LinuxJuggalo: Dont work, there are files in the istheshit if that help.
[09:46] <IndyGunFreak> biotrox: aer you tryign to boot the livecd?
[09:47] <caioborg> Enselic: when I type man pppoe and hit TAB it shows a line with pppoeconf   and ppp-oediscovery, nithing else
[09:47] <IndyGunFreak> or is that on an actual install?
[09:47] <bbardlbradd> Hey, I've been looking all night for this blasted perl module called "XML::Parser" or something to that effect, I guess I need it to makefile, so... is there anyway to skip that step?
[09:47] <biotrox> indygunfreak no the live cd boots just fine
[09:47] <Enselic> caioborg: right, but that's because those are the two completions you can make
[09:47] <speedy__> Enselic: sudo iwconfig ath0 mode monitor
[09:47] <Enselic> caioborg: if you add a 'c', it will complete to pppoeconf
[09:47] <IndyGunFreak> biotrox: something dind't go right during install, or something, that processor is fine
[09:48] <biotrox> during installation didn't show any error though
[09:48] <bbardlbradd> or, how important is a parser? idek what that is...
[09:48] <perr> LinuxJuggalo: It is a directory it says.
[09:48] <Enselic> speedy__: I think you need to bring the interface down first, did you try that?
[09:48] <astro76> bbardlbradd, if the program uses that library you need it to compile
[09:48] <speedy__> Enselic: how do i do that?
[09:49] <caioborg> Enselic: OK. So I have already know how to use the pppoeconf to configure my network. The problem is that the configuration doesn't work after reboot. I have to run the ppoeconf everytime I reboot. My username is saved, but the password is not
[09:49] <Enselic> speedy__: sudo ifconfig down ath0
[09:49] <astro76> bbardlbradd, I told you how to get it in Ubuntu, and someone mentioned cpan which has every perl module in the world since you're not using Ubuntu
[09:49] <Cyber_Stalker> gosh my sony digital camera is still not being detected when i plug it into the machine... can any one help me?
[09:49] <biotrox> i've tried all kinds of linux(DSL, knoppix, freespire, linuxmint, fedora, opensuse, mandriva) and the same problem goes to every distro
[09:49] <Enselic> caioborg: right. so my idea here is to fill in the configuration files referenced to when you read the pppoeconf manual page
[09:49] <Enselic> caioborg: not sure it will work, but it's worth a try
[09:50] <biotrox> oo there's some progress in DSL though
[09:50] <biotrox> IndyGunFreak any idea why..?
[09:50] <linux_stu> anyone here use kdm theme manager?
[09:50] <caioborg> Enselic:  and how to I get access to the manual page?
[09:50] <IndyGunFreak> biotrox: none at all, what version of Ubuntu are you trying to install?
[09:50] <biotrox> every kind of version
[09:50] <bbardlbradd> astro76, well, I don't think it makes a HUGE difference, to be running something on Xfree86 rather than Ubuntu...
[09:50] <biotrox> i try from 7.04
[09:50] <Enselic> caioborg: as I said earlier:   man pppoeconf
[09:50] <biotrox> 6.10
[09:50] <biotrox> 6.06
[09:50] <biotrox> edubuntu
[09:51] <biotrox> kubuntu
[09:51] <biotrox> ubuntu
[09:51] <biotrox> same problem
[09:51] <Enselic> !enter | biotrox
[09:51] <ubotu> biotrox: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:51] <IndyGunFreak> well, i'm not really concerned about edubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu, etc.., i was curious about versions.
[09:51] <biotrox> yes i try 704, 6.10, and 6.06
[09:51] <astro76> bbardlbradd, again, X is the windowing system, you're running it on Mac OSX, that's a huge difference...
[09:52] <ashfaq> Hello friends just installed 7.o4 would like to seek initial guidance please
[09:52] <IndyGunFreak> biotrox: like i said, it doesn't make any sense, maybe disable apci?
[09:52] <biotrox> acpi..?
[09:52] <ashfaq> astro76 Hi, finally installed fiesty
[09:52] <IndyGunFreak> biotrox: i'm not 100% familiar witht he process, astro76 probably knows
[09:52] <biotrox> indygunfreak, how to disable acpi..?
[09:52] <Wazm> don't know
[09:52] <IndyGunFreak> yes.
[09:53] <IndyGunFreak> i don't know, astro76 probalby does
[09:53] <caioborg> Enselic:  Sorry, I feel very stupid. Now I get it. I have to type man pppoeconf instead of sudo pppoeconf. The completions showed me that what comes after man pppoe. The manual page has loaded and I will try it. Hold on.
[09:53] <biotrox> astro76, can you help me disabling acpi on boot??
[09:53] <ashfaq> astro76, you busy?
[09:53] <Enselic> biotrox: pass acpi=no (or simiilar) to the kernel
[09:53] <speedy__> Enselic: i tried it it didnt work but i did get a status and yes it is on managed mode
[09:53] <biotrox> enselic, please be more spesific
[09:54] <ashfaq> My package is being updated, and taking advantage, I want to learn some things required
[09:54] <biotrox> enselic where to put that command
[09:54] <Enselic> biotrox: http://www.google.com/search?q=disable+acpi+linux
[09:54] <astro76> biotrox, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[09:54] <Enselic> speedy__: hang on
[09:55] <biotrox> oke thanks will tried this.. and must read first :D  thx all
[09:55] <reed> hi
[09:55] <astro76> ashfaq, what's the question?
[09:55] <Enselic> speedy__: what ubuntu version do you run?
[09:56] <ashfaq> Well now that I had installed fiesty as per your instructions, Please guide me
[09:56] <reed> who know the func select()
[09:56] <reed> who know the func select()
[09:56] <Enselic> ashfaq: about... ?
[09:56] <Ahadiel> !repeat | reed
[09:56] <ubotu> reed: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:56] <Colro> what can I use to unzip some .rar files? ;x
[09:56] <reed> who know the function select()
[09:56] <reed> who know the function select
[09:56] <caioborg> Enselic: the man ppoeconf command just opened some text explaining what is pppoeconf, nothing else
[09:56] <astro76> Colro, install the unrar package
[09:56] <Ahadiel> Colro, sudo apt-get install unrar
[09:57] <bbardlbradd> How do you update something through terminal?
[09:57] <reed> who know the function select()
[09:57] <reed> who know the function select()
[09:57] <Enselic> caioborg: there also are references to configuration files, right?
[09:57] <ashfaq> astro76: as you told me I made two partitions, 60 gb for etc 3 and swap of about 2.5 Gb
[09:57] <astro76> !patience | reed
[09:57] <ubotu> reed: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:57] <bbardlbradd> Like, XML::Parser
[09:57] <astro76> ashfaq, etc what?
[09:57] <caioborg> Enselic: Nope
[09:58] <Enselic> caioborg: yes there are :)
[09:58] <ashfaq> Thats the home partition is it not or I miss spelled
[09:58] <Enselic> caioborg: under 'FILES'
[09:58] <MasterAslan> install still stuck at detecting hardware.  Loading Module usb-storage.  Any ideas?  Is there a way to skip that hardware on install and if I do will I be able to add it once installed?
[09:58] <astro76> ashfaq, did you let the installer do the partitions?
[09:58] <liberum> Is there a way in nautilus to make a directory on top on all others? In Windows i just named it !name, but it doesn't work here
[09:58] <caioborg> Enselic: no files lol
[09:59] <ashfaq> Right now I am online through installed version, when I spoke to you in the morning it was from live cd
[09:59] <ashfaq> No I did manually
[09:59] <daveinthesky> liberum: does 1name work?
[09:59] <Enselic> caioborg:  /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider
[09:59] <astro76> ashfaq, so you made /, /home, and swap?
[09:59] <daveinthesky> or 000name
[09:59] <liberum> daveinthesky: Good point :) But it's kind of ugly
[09:59] <caioborg> Enselic: thanks again
[10:00] <ashfaq> Do you think the space is more, Because I had already planned one partition for ubuntu, I just distributed
[10:00] <liberum> 0-name-0 maybe ^_^
[10:00] <daveinthesky> you can also call it _name.  as long as nothing's capitalized it'll be first
[10:00] <FlyingPig> what command do i use to see what my version of gnome is?
[10:00] <bbardlbradd> How would I go about updating a perl module XML::parser?
[10:00] <astro76> ashfaq, in a terminal type df -h, then paste the output to the pastebin and give us the link
[10:00] <astro76> !paste | ashfaq
[10:00] <ubotu> ashfaq: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:00] <Enselic> FlyingPig: System -> About GNOME
[10:00] <ashfaq> Yeah
[10:00] <Enselic> FlyingPig: in the menu
[10:00] <bbardlbradd> also, I don't think I even have apt-get, is that possible?
[10:00] <daveinthesky> sudo apt-get install libxml-parser-perl
[10:01] <Enselic> bbardlbradd: trust me, you do have apt-get...
[10:01] <astro76> Enselic, he's running Mac OSX
[10:01] <FlyingPig> enselic do you knwo command in the console?
[10:01] <Enselic> oh, Mac OS X
[10:01] <Enselic> then what is he doing in #ubuntu?
[10:01] <ashfaq> Okay I will do it
[10:01] <astro76> indeed
[10:01] <pAngeran_mAlu> halo semua!!!
[10:01] <daveinthesky> sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install XML::Parser'  (and good luck ;) )
[10:01] <Enselic> FlyingPig: try asking in #gnome
[10:02] <FlyingPig> enselic ok thanks
[10:02] <astro76> bbardlbradd, you might try #linux or #perl
[10:02] <Enselic> FlyingPig: btw your IRC client probably has Tab completion
[10:02] <bbardlbradd> Enselic, I can find no one in mac channels for this... in fact, the only mac channel active was full of idiots
[10:02] <pAngeran_mAlu> gak ada yang jawab kenapa sih ?
[10:02] <reed> why don'i i could aptitude update? /var/lib/apt/lock  error?
[10:02] <Enselic> FlyingPig: try Ens<TAB>
[10:02] <FlyingPig> enselic ??
[10:02] <speedy_> Enselic: i tried it and it didnt work but i did get a status and yes it is on managed mode
[10:02] <Enselic> FlyingPig: nm...
[10:02] <FlyingPig> enselic i use xchat and bichx
[10:02] <FlyingPig> bitchx
[10:02] <Enselic> speedy_: what version of Ubuntu did yu use again?
[10:02] <pAngeran_mAlu> oeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.......semua sepiiiiiiiiiii
[10:02] <caioborg> Enselic: I have found the configuration file, but I can't save it
[10:03] <Enselic> caioborg: you need to edit it as root
[10:03] <speedy_> Enselic: im using feisty
[10:03] <Enselic> speedy_: maybe your driver is old, try the iwpriv command instead
[10:03] <Enselic> speedy_: I think it is   sudo iwpriv ath0 mode monitor
[10:03] <caioborg> Enselic: how do I do that? Should I go to the forums a read more about it?
[10:03] <bbardlbradd> Is there a way to get apt-get?
[10:03] <Enselic> speedy_: also, I'm not sure all drivers support monitor mode
[10:03] <astro76> bbardlbradd, install ubuntu ;)
[10:04] <Enselic> caioborg: nope :)
[10:04] <Enselic> !sudo | caioborg
[10:04] <ubotu> caioborg: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:04] <Enselic> bbardlbradd: you alrady have it
[10:04] <speedy_> Enselic: u know wich one does?
[10:04] <astro76> bbardlbradd, seriously, mac osx is completely offtopic in here
[10:04] <astro76> !ot
[10:04] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:04] <Enselic> speedy_: the Intel driver for example
[10:04] <caioborg> Enselic: thanks, I don't want to bother with noob questions.
[10:04] <Enselic> speedy_: but you cant use Intel drivers unless you have an Intel card...
[10:05] <caioborg> ubotu: thanks for the link
[10:05] <Cyber_Stalker> i dont get how ppl always thank the bot lol :D
[10:05] <Enselic> caioborg: don't be afraid from asking noob questions, noob questions are what this channel is for :)
[10:05] <Enselic> caioborg: ubotu is a link :)
[10:05] <Enselic> caioborg: um bot
[10:05] <caioborg> Enselic; lol
[10:05] <Enselic> !hi | caioborg
[10:05] <ubotu> caioborg: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:05] <caioborg> lol
[10:05] <daveinthesky> the bot gets lonely too
[10:06] <ashfaq> astro76: I did the pasting, but I am confused, I typed my name first time, and again corrected by typing my computer user name
[10:06] <astro76> ashfaq, the name doesn't matter, we need the link you get
[10:06] <speedy_> Enselic: how bout wlan-ng ? does that driver support atheros?
[10:06] <g0dd3ss> hai i have feisty and I installed wifi-radar then I uninstalled both network-manager and wifi-radar to install wicd.  icd wors ok, but wehn i go to shutdown it says failed to shutdown wifi something-or-other and stopping wifi radar daemon, If i uninstalled wifi-radar why should I still have the daemon? anyone know how i can fix this? sorry i iz n00bish
[10:06] <Enselic> speedy_: no idea
[10:07] <Enselic> speedy_: generally there is one driver per card
[10:07] <caioborg> Enselic: thanks for the help. I will read that info and try to configure it. Will be back soon. Cya
[10:07] <Enselic> caioborg: ciao
[10:07] <ashfaq> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40506/
[10:08] <FallenHitokiri> g0dd3ss: how did you install / uninstall wifi-radar?
[10:08] <stillhere> i installed compiz... tried to turn on visual FX, but it says it needs plugins...
[10:08] <speedy_> Enselic: can i do it with the network manager applet?
[10:08] <ashfaq> astro76: Is that you wanted
[10:08] <vmlinuz`> How do i unrar the files .rar ?
[10:08] <Enselic> speedy_: do what? change driver? not afaik
[10:08] <astro76> ashfaq, yeah, so you have three 59GB partitions, what are they supposed to be?
[10:08] <Enselic> speedy_: but I susepct the driver you have now is the one that exists for your card
[10:08] <FallenHitokiri> vmlinuz`: apt-get install unrar
[10:08] <speedy_> Enselic: change the mode to monitor?
[10:08] <bbardlbradd> _if_ one were to get Ubuntu and it not have apt-get for whatever reason, how would you help them?
[10:08] <FallenHitokiri> vmlinuz`: after that you archive manager can umpack them
[10:08] <calvin> hello
[10:09] <bbardlbradd> Help them get apt-get
[10:09] <Enselic> speedy_: well not if your driver does not support it, which appears to be the case
[10:09] <calvin> can I upgrade from dapper to gutsy with update-manager?
[10:09] <astro76> ashfaq, pastebin the output of mount
[10:09] <calvin> I'd rather not do a dist-upgrade
[10:09] <bluebanana> how safe is it to upgrade today to Gutsy? 100% Safe?
[10:09] <astro76> ashfaq, you don't have any of them mounted to /home
[10:09] <Enselic> bbardlbradd: I would recomend them to reinstall Ubuntu...
[10:09] <ashfaq> Well One for the vista ultimate and two partitions have just multimedia and other stuff downloaded from torrents
[10:09] <calvin> maybe upgrading update-manager first?
[10:09] <FallenHitokiri> bbardlbradd: why shouldn't it have apt-get?
[10:09] <bbardlbradd> and I already have Ubuntu, I'm just not using it right now
[10:09] <Enselic> bbardlbradd: because if you dont have apt-get, your system is severly messed up
[10:09] <vmlinuz`> FallenHitokiri: cool, thanks
[10:09] <astro76> ashfaq, oh they're ntfs?
[10:09] <FallenHitokiri> bluebanana: dist-upgrade are never 100% safe
[10:10] <bluebanana> What's the difference between upgrading today and upgrading Oct 18 to 7.10?
[10:10] <bbardlbradd> WHERE DOES apt-get COME FROM??? It just happens to exist when ubuntu is made?
[10:10] <Enselic> bbardlbradd: apt-get is built from source as any other software
[10:10] <bluebanana> FallenHitokiri: will dist-upgrade from Oct 18 onwards be 100% safe?
[10:10] <ultraviolet__> bluebanana, i would wait one more week for the final version. i'm using beta gutsy but i'm experiencing a few bugs
[10:10] <ashfaq> astro76: That is why I insisted that I am interested in torrent clients, as well as voice messenger, like google talk or yahoo
[10:10] <Enselic> bbardlbradd: you could try to download the apt-get source and ubilt it yourself
[10:10] <FallenHitokiri> bbardlbradd: it's part of distribution, so it will be definitly installed
[10:10] <bbardlbradd> Where does that source come from then?
[10:10] <bluebanana> ultraviolet__: and they still are fixing bugs?
[10:10] <FallenHitokiri> bluebanana: dist-upgrade are never 100% safe
[10:10] <bluebanana> I thought Final Release meant no more changes
[10:10] <Enselic> bbardlbradd: from developers, not sure where you can download it
[10:11] <Enselic> bbardlbradd: its easy to get source code with apt-get :)   apt-get source apt-get
[10:11] <FallenHitokiri> bbardlbradd: search google for apt
[10:11] <vmlinuz`> how do i make VLC my default video player?
[10:11] <vmlinuz`> in gnome
[10:11] <ashfaq> yeah any problem? I will get them converted, as I go on learning with you people
[10:11] <speedy_> Enselic: how bout upgrading the driver?
[10:11] <Enselic> speedy_: also definitly an alternative
[10:11] <vsayikiran> can we use gtalk in gaim
[10:11] <Enselic> speedy_: what brand do you have?
[10:11] <ultraviolet__> bluebanana, there's always going to be bugs, but the final version will reduce them a little i suppose
[10:11] <FallenHitokiri> vmlinuz`: rightclick on the filetype you always want to open -> preferences -> open with
[10:11] <speedy_> Enselic: atheros
[10:11] <astro76> bbardlbradd, sigh.... apt-get is not the solution to your problem, you need to find the way to install that perl module appropriate to Mac OSX.. and we have no idea how
[10:12] <vmlinuz`> FallenHitokiri: thank you brother
[10:12] <Enselic> speedy_: not heard of them, not sure if they make good Linux drivers. you can try google for the rdrivers
[10:12] <FallenHitokiri> vsayikiran: yes. gtalk is "only" a jabber protocol
[10:12] <ashfaq> Guide me to install a good voice msg client, and a good torrent client on preferencial base
[10:12] <astro76> bbardlbradd, I suggest you try #linux
[10:12] <Enselic> bbardlbradd: oh you are on Mac OS X?
[10:12] <Enselic> bbardlbradd: intsall macports
[10:12] <FallenHitokiri> ashfaq: ekiga is installed and a small torrent client is also installed, what do you need?
[10:12] <bbardlbradd> astro76, Enselic, I love you. Goodnight
[10:12] <speedy_> Enselic: atheros is my wireless card brand.....
[10:12] <vsayikiran> i want to use voice chat service in gmail, does gaim support it?
[10:12] <astro76> ashfaq, so what was the question about partitions?
[10:13] <Enselic> vsayikiran: (note that GAIM has changed name to Pidgin)
[10:13] <ashfaq> astro76: I see that you are telling most of the pals to install ubuntu, I had already done it,
[10:13] <FallenHitokiri> vsayikiran: its not gaim is pidgim ;)  IIRC no - but check gajim
[10:13] <ashfaq> astro76: Will I be able to read and write to ntfs partitions?
[10:13] <astro76> !ntfs-3g | ashfaq
[10:13] <ubotu> ashfaq: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:14] <FallenHitokiri> ashfaq: in gutsy ntfs-3g is available
[10:14] <vsayikiran> FallenHitokiri: but will it support voice chat
[10:14] <astro76> ashfaq, in gutsy it is available by default
[10:14] <FallenHitokiri> vsayikiran: AFAIK is gajim the most complete client with most features so it would be your best chance.
[10:15] <ashfaq> Okay thanks I Will do that and return!ntfs-3g
[10:15] <vsayikiran> FallenHitokiri: gajim is that irc client
[10:15] <FallenHitokiri> vsayikiran: no
[10:15] <FallenHitokiri> vsayikiran: apt-cache show gajim
[10:16] <ashfaq> astro, Please one more problem, is screen resolution, I need 1440x900 for my wide screen monitor, this seems to have locked to 1038
[10:16] <flokuehn> ashfaq: then you have to reconfigure your .xorg
[10:17] <astro76> !resolution | ashfaq
[10:17] <FallenHitokiri> ashfaq: edit your modlines in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:17] <ubotu> ashfaq: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:17] <mechdave> vsayikiran: isn't it gaim?
[10:17] <vsayikiran> FallenHitokiri: yes i got some output, now what can i do
[10:17] <ashfaq> Okay thank you all the guys let me finish doing this
[10:17] <FallenHitokiri> vsayikiran: read the Description
[10:18] <ultraviolet__> people, i've just installed gutsy beta in my PC, and everything went fine, except for my comp won't turn off. i have to press power button, or turn off using terminal. anyone has been through this? how did you solve it?
[10:18] <calvin> are gutsy images only on DVD?
[10:18] <vsayikiran> mechdave: no its 'gajim'
[10:18] <astro76> ultraviolet__, ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:18] <gogeta> calvin no thers cd isos
[10:18] <FallenHitokiri> mechdave: gajim and gaim are 2 differen clients and gaim is now named pidgim
[10:19] <calvin> I can't find them on cdimage.u.c
[10:19] <gogeta> LOL
[10:19] <calvin> eh
[10:19] <linux_stu> anyone know if there is a file that can be edited to make changes to kde settings rather than use the control center
[10:19] <calvin> I'm not laughing :)
[10:19] <gogeta> maybe couse there only on the ubuntu ftp atm
[10:19] <vsayikiran> FallenHitokiri: its written in python, so now should i install it?
[10:19] <ultraviolet__> astro76, I'm doing it. But it seems to me is not only a distro problem. I found some reports on the same case for other versions, but no solution
[10:20] <FallenHitokiri> vsayikiran: python is installed and if you install gajim depences will be automaticaly installed
[10:20] <astro76> linux_stu, try asking in #kubuntu also
[10:20] <linux_stu> ok
[10:20] <mechdave> vsayikiran: FallenHitokiri Oh how things move so fast in the OS world!
[10:21] <astro76> ultraviolet__, it's still offtopic here
[10:21] <vsayikiran> FallenHitokiri: if i need to uninstall and remove the package completely from my hard disk then what should i do?
[10:21] <FallenHitokiri> mechdave: gaim guys had no choice. aol was a bit angry because they own aim
[10:21] <gogeta> audo apt-get remove package
[10:21] <FallenHitokiri> vsayikiran: apt-get remove --purge package; apt-get autoremove --purge
[10:21] <FallenHitokiri> vsayikiran: removes all packages you don't need together with their configuration files
[10:21] <mechdave> FallenHitokiri: Oh is that how it all happened! :)
[10:22] <gogeta> FallenHitokiri aol is always angry
[10:23] <vsayikiran> FallenHitokiri: suppose i want to completely remove azureus package, including all config files, then i should run 'sudo apt-get remove --purge azureus'
[10:23] <FallenHitokiri> vsayikiran: well if the package name is azureus - yes ;) but it won't delete .azureus in you ~
[10:24] <vmlinuz`> my torrents was working fine, but now they are not working/ Can't download nymore, can someone help me :<
[10:24] <gogeta> vmlinuz dead tracker?
[10:24] <flokuehn> vmlinuz`: what did you do
[10:24] <smmagic> Can someone give me a bit of help?
[10:24] <chobaca> hello everyone - does anyone know how to stop ubuntu from prompting for password when I close and then open the lid of my laptop?
[10:24] <gogeta> !anybody
[10:24] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:24] <vmlinuz`> problem connecting to tracker - timeout exceeded
[10:25] <vsayikiran> FallenHitokiri: so to remove .azureus i have to run 'sudo apt-get autoremove --purge azureus'
[10:25] <gogeta> vmlinuz dead tracker
[10:25] <vmlinuz`> I did nothing
[10:25] <FallenHitokiri> smmagic: just ask
[10:25] <vsayikiran> chobaca: see power management
[10:25] <gogeta> vmlinuz bt tarckers die often its not ot of the ordnary
[10:25] <vmlinuz`> gogeta: is this from my side, or not. my english is not that good
[10:25] <smmagic> When I try to find out if direct rendering is enabled
[10:26] <chobaca> vasayikiran - thanks
[10:26] <GM> #cherry
[10:26] <gogeta> vmlinuz probly there side
[10:26] <smmagic> This is going to spam the chat box..
[10:26] <FallenHitokiri> vsayikiran: no. --purge won't touche anything inside your home. just do a rm -R ~/.azurues
[10:26] <gogeta> !pastbin
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <gogeta> wtf
[10:26] <vmlinuz`> gogeta: what to do then
[10:26] <kritzstapf> !pastebin
[10:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:26] <smmagic> Wait..
[10:26] <gogeta> vmlinuz find a new torrent
[10:26] <FallenHitokiri> smmagic: glxinfo | grep rendering
[10:27] <smmagic> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:27] <smmagic> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:27] <smmagic> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:27] <smmagic> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[10:27] <FallenHitokiri> smmagic: glxinfo | grep rendering
[10:27] <smmagic> Repeats that over and over
[10:27] <gogeta> !pastebin smmagic
[10:27] <vsayikiran> FallenHitokiri: so this apt-get remove --purge removes everything from my harddisk
[10:27] <smmagic> So how do I fix that so it shows me if I have direct rendering enabled
[10:27] <FallenHitokiri> vsayikiran: it removes the package and configurationfiles in /etc for example but not the files in you homedirectory
[10:27] <FallenHitokiri> smmagic: glxinfo | grep rendering
[10:28] <gogeta> LOL
[10:28] <gogeta> die windows die
[10:28] <smmagic> That is what I did
[10:28] <smmagic> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:28] <smmagic> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[10:28] <smmagic> Just says that over and over
[10:28] <gogeta> smmagic what video card
[10:28] <FallenHitokiri> your grep seems to be broken
[10:28] <gogeta> smmagic might ened drivers for dri
[10:29] <smmagic> Nvidia vanta something
[10:29] <novato_away> I have ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn and I'd like how can I update gnome to version 2.20 without install the gutsy?
[10:29] <smmagic> I updated driver today
[10:29] <gogeta> smmagic a nivida something
[10:29] <vsayikiran> FallenHitokiri: if i am downloading any package using synaptic manager, it shows that it is caching it locally, where does all those packages get downloaded?
[10:29] <smmagic> nvida vanta
[10:29] <FallenHitokiri> novato_away: download gnome-sources and build them?
[10:29] <FallenHitokiri> vsayikiran: /var/cache/apt
[10:29] <gogeta> smmagic drivers from restretid?
[10:29] <novato_away> FallenHitokiri, is it hard?
[10:29] <smmagic> YEs
[10:29] <smmagic> NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT]
[10:29] <papo> heck is it me or is launchpad sloooow atm?
[10:29] <FallenHitokiri> novato_away: yes
[10:29] <ultraviolet> novato_away, you can try "apt-get install upgrade ubuntu-desktop"
[10:29] <chobaca> vsayikiran: that didn't help I want the screen to black out when I close the lid I just don't whant ubuntu to promt me for a password once I open the lid again.
[10:29] <FallenHitokiri> novato_away: takes some time and some errors
[10:30] <FallenHitokiri> papo: it's not you
[10:30] <vsayikiran> FallenHitokiri: i mean before actual installation begins
[10:30] <papo> FallenHitokiri: Ah ok
[10:30] <smmagic> Im not sure what is wrong
[10:30] <gogeta> smmagic and nividas drivers are not wroking with 3d thats new
[10:30] <FallenHitokiri> vsayikiran: me too
[10:30] <smmagic> Great..
[10:30] <smmagic> ..
[10:30] <FallenHitokiri> vsayikiran: apt pulls all packages and saves them in /var/apt/cache
[10:31] <crdlb> smmagic, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:31] <smmagic> How do I bring that up?
[10:31] <vsayikiran> FallenHitokiri: so can i copy those packages into some other drive
[10:31] <FallenHitokiri> vsayikiran: I mean /var/cache/apt, sorry
[10:31] <FallenHitokiri> vsayikiran: why?
[10:31] <crdlb> smmagic, gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:31] <crdlb> would do it
[10:31] <ferronica> Bossmanbeta: ?
[10:31] <vsayikiran> FallenHitokiri: so that i can install packages in future in absence of net-connection
[10:32] <smmagic> http://pastebin.ca/735045
[10:32] <ferronica> Bossmanbeta: tushar@tushar-desktop:~$ sudo mount BLACKXP_4_DVD_FINAL.iso /home/tushar/ iso -o loop
[10:32] <FallenHitokiri> vsayikiran: yes. this would be possible. but you always would have the old version :(
[10:32] <papo> FallenHitokiri: Is this just some temporary problem or is it because some high load due to the gutsy release?
[10:32] <smmagic> Blur of text
[10:32] <FallenHitokiri> vsayikiran: if you want a local mirror you can also use apt-proxy for example
[10:33] <ferronica> How to mount .ISO image in ubuntu 7.04 GNOME
[10:33] <sdouble__> has anyone here played world of warcraft through wine?  I'm curious what the best graphics setup for an ati card would be.
[10:33] <FallenHitokiri> papo: sorry but I am no official, I don't know what load is on the server
[10:33] <CH1P> ./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=a1fd39d2-e55b-4cf7-8509-c40d997ce646 ro quiet splash -- noapic or /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=a1fd39d2-e55b-4cf7-8509-c40d997ce646 ro quiet splash -- noapic -- nolapic (which is the correct one)
[10:33] <papo> FallenHitokiri: no problem... I'm just waiting a bit
[10:33] <FallenHitokiri> papo: but maybe currently is a high load or your internet is just slow ;) (stop loading porn *scnr*)
[10:33] <biotrox> astr76 & indygunfreak, i've tried to disable acpi but still slow.. any other suggestion..?
[10:34] <FallenHitokiri> ferronica: mount -o loop image mountpoint
[10:34] <IndyGunFreak> biotrox: sorry..
[10:34] <vsayikiran> FallenHitokiri: atleast i will have something than having nothing, so if i dont have net connection some time and i want to install any package i can install from /var/cahce/apt
[10:34] <biotrox> feronica, use gmount
[10:34] <papo> FallenHitokiri: well I can rule out the last two :)
[10:34] <smmagic> Any idea what is wrong?
[10:34] <biotrox> !gmount | feronica
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gmount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <biotrox> indygungfreak guess i must try to use xubuntu than..? :(
[10:35] <crdlb> smmagic, line 482
[10:35] <astro76> biotrox, what is your cpu, ram?
[10:35] <FallenHitokiri> vsayikiran: there is a project on launchpad aptcd or something liek that, maybe this would also be a option
[10:35] <smmagic> What about it?
[10:36] <IndyGunFreak> biotrox: i doubt xubuntu is gonna make a difference
[10:36] <crdlb> smmagic, it's your problem
[10:36] <ferronica> FallenHitokiri: mount: can't find home/tushar/iso in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:36] <ferronica> tushar@tushar-desktop:~$ mount -o loop home/tushar/iso
[10:36] <ferronica> crdlb: hi bud :)
[10:36] <crdlb> hi
[10:36] <vsayikiran> FallenHitokiri: i didnt get what kind of package
[10:36] <FallenHitokiri> ferronica: sorry, you have to be root.   mount -o loop /home/tushar/iso /mnt
[10:36] <IndyGunFreak> astro76: he should have moer than enough processor power, 1700mhz Celeron.. i dont' remember his ram
[10:36] <smmagic> How do I find line 482 quickly?
[10:36] <biotrox> astro76, cpu Pentium M 1.7GHz, RAM 2GB VGA 64MG
[10:36] <crdlb> smmagic, look on the pastebin
[10:36] <biotrox> MB
[10:36] <crdlb> it's numbered
[10:36] <ferronica> FallenHitokiri: i did
[10:36] <FallenHitokiri> smmagic: vi filename; 482 "cursordown"
[10:37] <CH1P> My ethernet card is not getting detected and i am new to ubuntu please help, the forums do not contain the solution
[10:37] <IndyGunFreak> biotrox: i run ubuntu on a PC not even half as powerful as that, and its fine.
[10:37] <smmagic> #
[10:37] <smmagic> (EE) GLX is not supported with the Composite extension
[10:37] <FallenHitokiri> bosman: ubuntu works perfect on my pentium m 1.5 with 512mb ram
[10:37] <crdlb> bingo
[10:37] <smmagic> That it?
[10:37] <crdlb> you need to disable composite
[10:37] <smmagic> Right..umm
[10:37] <FallenHitokiri> vsayikiran: sorry? I don't get it
[10:37] <biotrox> indygunfreak, ya, i run them too on my desktop computers and the specs is below this one
[10:38] <ferronica> FallenHitokiri: tushar@tushar-desktop:~$ sudo mount -o loop /home/tushar/iso /mnt
[10:38] <ferronica> /home/tushar/iso: Is a directory
[10:38] <ferronica> tushar@tushar-desktop:~$
[10:38] <biotrox> but.. i don't understand why
[10:38] <smmagic> TIme to google it i suppose
[10:38] <FallenHitokiri> ferronica: you have to specify your iso-image not just a directory
[10:38] <IndyGunFreak> biotrox: no idea... doesn't make sense
[10:38] <vsayikiran> FallenHitokiri: you were talking about some project , aptcd? whats this?
[10:38] <crdlb> smmagic, random google hit: http://felipe-alfaro.org/blog/2006/09/06/ubuntu-edgy-ati-fglrx-dri-3d-acceleration-and-xorg-composite-extension/
[10:38] <vmlinuz`> hey, how to open .wmv files?
[10:38] <biotrox> indygunfreak, yes doesn't make sense
[10:38] <smmagic> launchpad is slow
[10:38] <FallenHitokiri> vsayikiran: something that builds install cds from the packages you pulled. check launchpad
[10:39] <crdlb> smmagic, ignore most of it, just follow the bit about editing your xorg.conf to disable composite
[10:39] <ferronica> FallenHitokiri: can you please give me all commands please
[10:39] <smmagic> Add that to the bottom?
[10:39] <daveinthesky> vmlinuz`: mplayer or vlc i would suspect
[10:39] <crdlb> smmagic, yes
[10:39] <FallenHitokiri> ferronica: what is the name of the iso you want to mount and where is it located on your harddrive?
[10:39] <smmagic> ..
[10:39] <smmagic> I forgot how to open xorg!
[10:39] <FallenHitokiri> vmlinuz`: you want w32codecs.deb installed
[10:39] <crdlb> smmagic, gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:40] <ferronica> FallenHitokiri: iso image file name BLACKXP_4_DVD_FINAL.iso
[10:40] <ferronica> FallenHitokiri: and it is in HDD
[10:40] <AJ--> ie guys how can i connect to my ubuntu desktop graphicaly.. like RDP in windows
[10:40] <smmagic> Ok..
[10:40] <smmagic> Where to add it..
[10:40] <vmlinuz`> FallenHitokiri: can that be installed via apt-get or do i need to get it manually?
[10:40] <ferronica> FallenHitokiri: under home/tushar
[10:40] <FallenHitokiri> vmlinuz`: AFAIK it is not in apt
[10:40] <crdlb> smmagic, at the bottom is fine
[10:40] <vmlinuz`> FallenHitokiri: cool, I'll search
[10:41] <astro76> AJ--, what is the client, linux or windows? over the internet or just locally?
[10:41] <smmagic> And close?
[10:41] <italianidle> ChaosParser: the problem in the link refers to splash screen but I'm talking about usplash at boot time
[10:41] <FallenHitokiri> AJ--: AJ-- system -> preferences -> remote desktop
[10:41] <AJ--> windows client and localonly
[10:41] <FallenHitokiri> ferronica: mount -o loop /home/tushar/HDD/BLACKXP_4_DvD_FINAL.iso /mnt
[10:41] <astro76> AJ--, as FallenHitokiri said, enable remote desktop there, then use vnc viewer in windows
[10:42] <ferronica> FallenHitokiri: like this ---> /home/tushar/Azureus Downloads/BLACKXP_4.0_DVD_FINAL
[10:42] <smmagic> Done
[10:42] <FallenHitokiri> ferronica: mount -o loop /home/tushar/Azureus Downloads/BLACKXP_4.0_DVD_FINAL.iso /mnt
[10:42] <FallenHitokiri> ferronica: don't forget sudo
[10:42] <astro76> AJ--, http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/winvncviewer.html
[10:42] <crdlb> smmagic, that should do it
[10:42] <biotrox> astro, any idea how how..?
[10:42] <crdlb> now just restart X
[10:43] <ultraviolet> hey guys. does someone know how to record my preferences for gnome-volume-control? i'm using ubuntu beta gutsy with gnome 2.20 and everytime i reboot i have to rescale all recording/reproduction volumes, and it's a major problem when you're trying to work with music.
[10:43] <smmagic> Now to check is grep | rendering?
[10:43] <crdlb> smmagic, after restarting X, yes
[10:43] <papo> FallenHitokiri: Ehrm... If I want to attach 3 files, do I have to make 3 comments? This sounds odd
[10:43] <smmagic> How do I restart X?
[10:43] <astro76> smmagic, ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:43] <FallenHitokiri> papo: sorry? what are we talking about?
[10:44] <sdouble__> smmagic: ctrl + alt + backspace
[10:44] <CH1P>  My ethernet card is not getting detected and i am new to ubuntu please help, the forums do not contain the solution
[10:44] <astro76> !gutsy | ultraviolet
[10:44] <ubotu> ultraviolet: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[10:44] <papo> FallenHitokiri: Still launchpad, sorry
[10:44] <ferronica> FallenHitokiri: ok, it just giving me  commands
[10:44] <FallenHitokiri> papo: i have no idea sorry.
[10:44] <daveinthesky> ultraviolet:  I'm not sure about gnome-volume-control, but to save/restore alsa's volume settings I use 'sudo alsactl store' and 'sudo alsactl restore'.  that might work for you
[10:45] <smmagic> grep | rendering didnt work
[10:45] <CH1P> what does noapic command do?
[10:45] <ultraviolet> daveinthesky, i'll take a look, thanks.
[10:45] <FallenHitokiri> ferronica: sorry I don't know what you mean
[10:45] <papo> hm one day I guess I need some serious introduction to launchpad... I don't get it at all :(
[10:45] <New_linux_dummie> simple question, I'm trying to set up a LAMP server using ubunto and would like to know if there is a GUI command I can use from the command prompt
[10:45] <PriceChild> New_linux_dummie, to install it?
[10:45] <zz5423> smmagic: it's  glxinfo | grep rendering
[10:46] <smmagic> WOOT
[10:46] <ultraviolet> daveinthesky, but you do that everytime you perform some changes?
[10:46] <New_linux_dummie> I've installed it, that was easy, no, it's installed but I only get the command prompt
[10:46] <smmagic> Direct rendering!
[10:46] <smmagic> crdlb is a legend!
[10:46] <crdlb> smmagic, enjoy your tuxracer
[10:46] <zz5423> smmagic: Direct rendering: yes?
[10:46] <smmagic> LEGENDS!
[10:46] <daveinthesky> ultraviolet: I just do a store when I have the defaults the way I want them, and run the 'restore' during startup
[10:46] <smmagic> LEGENDS!
[10:47] <gogeta> lol
[10:47] <gogeta> guess issues fixed
[10:47] <FallenHitokiri> papo: https://launchpad.net/+tour https://launchpad.net/faq
[10:47] <PriceChild> New_linux_dummie, ahhhh sorry i'm with you :)
[10:47] <FallenHitokiri> New_linux_dummie: what else do you want?
[10:47] <CH1P> "wired connection" or "ethernet" doesn't appear in administration > network
[10:47] <L0GAN> im starting ubuntu undr windows atm
[10:47] <ryoma_> buongiorno
[10:47] <smmagic> Why is ubuntu.com and launchpad slow?
[10:47] <FallenHitokiri> CH1P: what chip is on your nic?
[10:48] <ultraviolet> daveinthesky, ok
[10:48] <ryoma_> qualcuno mi potrebbe dare una delucidazione su vmware?? perfavore??
[10:48] <daveinthesky> ultraviolet: /etc/rc.local would probably be a good place for the restore command
[10:48] <FallenHitokiri> smmagic: high load on their server?
[10:48] <ryoma_> non mi funziona l'accellerazione grafica sul mio win emulato
[10:48] <smmagic> Maybe..
[10:48] <New_linux_dummie> mostly to configure it, but I can't seem to find the right files under the command prompt (still relitivly new to linux as well, very basic experience, although I've found it's much like dos)
[10:48] <FallenHitokiri> ryoma_: english?
[10:48] <tomd> New_linux_dummie: try typing startx at the command prompt and tell me what it says
[10:48] <CH1P> FallenHitokiri: RTL8139D
[10:48] <smmagic> You guys are still legends!
[10:48] <L0GAN> hmm almost loaded then poof?
[10:49] <FallenHitokiri> New_linux_dummie: they are all in /etc   /etc/apache2 /etc/mysql /etc/php
[10:49] <ryoma_> ops mitake^^
[10:49] <FallenHitokiri> CH1P: hm. should work. lsmod | grep 8139
[10:49] <L0GAN> i do hear a start sound
[10:49] <L0GAN> but see no window anymore
[10:49] <ryoma_> hi every one^^
[10:50] <FallenHitokiri> hi ryoma_
[10:50] <ryoma_> i got some problem on vmware
[10:50] <ryoma_> i can't run my grafic card
[10:50] <New_linux_dummie> ok thanks, I've done the configs for windows before but that was in windows, I'm switching 2 systems from xp (now have ubunto desktop on main pc)
[10:51] <ryoma_> i installd the tools for vmware
[10:51] <murlidhar_> if anybody has this wallpaper please send me http://www.ubustu.com/globe/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/screenshot666resizedkw1.png
[10:51] <FallenHitokiri> murlidhar_: should be available on gnome-look.org search for black in wallpapers
[10:51] <L0GAN> ah got the desktop :D
[10:51] <ryoma_> and now the grafic card is intalled but is not enought to play quake^^
[10:51] <papo> FallenHitokiri: thanks. Let's see whether that helps
[10:51] <Cheek> I'm trying to set up a shared location for my /boot directory, so that both my winxp and ubuntu installs can edit menu.lst. I already have a ~30gb shared fat32 drive. Could i put it on that?
[10:52] <astro76> Cheek, no, why do you need to edit it from windows, you still can't update grub from menus?
[10:52] <astro76> *windows
[10:52] <FallenHitokiri> ryoma_: search vmware forums for 3d-accelerations. its beta and you need to configure it throu a config file but it works for finaly fantasy for example. but most 3d games will not work.
[10:52] <New_linux_dummie> I have one more question, do you know of any programs that do security cameras from a BNC card?
[10:53] <FallenHitokiri> Cheek: you don't need 30gb, you can edit ext3 from windows with the drivers
[10:53] <|logo|> ryoma_:  read what vmware exactly does,  it is just sinmulating a standart graphic card and it will never be as good as the one build in...
[10:53] <Cheek> ii want to edit the default menu choice in menu.lst before reboot so i can switch easily :)
[10:53] <FallenHitokiri> New_linux_dummie: there is one big project webinterface and everything you need. google a bit, i don't remeber the name
[10:53] <papo> Cheek: then just do it :)
[10:54] <Cheek> how do i get at menu.lst from windows?
[10:54] <FallenHitokiri> Cheek: why not just using grub menu? would it be to easy to press "cursor down" instead of editing a config?
[10:54] <FallenHitokiri> Cheek: install ext3 fs drivers for windows
[10:54] <gordonjc1> New_linux_dummie: there are a few programs that capture from video cards and might be suitable
[10:54] <astro76> Cheek, http://www.fs-driver.org/
[10:54] <Cheek> FallenHitokiri, nope. thats exactly what i'm trying to get rid of--its annoying! especially when switching back and forth..
[10:54] <papo> Cheek: what file system is it?
[10:54] <gordonjc1> New_linux_dummie: "motion" lets you draw a box and start recording when anything changes in that box
[10:55] <Cheek> yeah, its ext3... *shrug*
[10:55] <gordonjc1> New_linux_dummie: depending on what kind of card you have, you may need to make something clever to work with it
[10:55] <astro76> Cheek, btw that says ext2 but ext3 is ext3 compatible
[10:55] <astro76> Cheek, *ext3 is ext3 compatible ;)
[10:55] <Suggley> Hi guys - i have had a little bit of trouble installing mythtv from the website directions - 1st tzap can lock on channels on both interfaces - but wen i go to configure mythtv - it doesnt save any settings nor does it add any DTV cards that it does recognise - is there anything in partiular i should be looking for?
[10:55] <FallenHitokiri> New_linux_dummie: http://www.zoneminder.com/
[10:55] <astro76> Cheek, damn, ext2 compatible
[10:56] <New_linux_dummie> I primarly just need something that I can watch the cams on my tv through my computer, I can do that now in windows but I don't like windows now because it toasted a 500gb drive
[10:56] <murlidhar_> FallenHitokiri: ain't there
[10:56] <FallenHitokiri> astro76: nice sentence ;)
[10:56] <portablejim> How do I disable devices?
[10:56] <astro76> FallenHitokiri, :D
[10:56] <papo> Cheek: there are several projects around which enable ext2/3 reading and writing from windows
[10:56] <FallenHitokiri> portablejim: unload modules
[10:56] <prodigy> hello
[10:56] <FallenHitokiri> murlidhar_: ??
[10:56] <Cheek> I'd rather keep my do$e system clean if possible--trying to install as little as possible. Always smart on windows :) since i've already got the shared space, it seemd to make sence to just copy my /boot folder and redirect..
[10:56] <murlidhar_> how do i go back to feisty fawn
[10:56] <novato_br> FallenHitokiri, plz, when i try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, it says that will be remove alot office package and i need this package, what can I do ?
[10:57] <murlidhar_> FallenHitokiri: the grey wallpaper
[10:57] <astro76> murlidhar_, you upgraded to gutsy? you can't without reinstalling feisty
[10:57] <FallenHitokiri> murlidhar_: fresh installation. downgrades are ugly bad and god kills a kitten
[10:57] <portablejim> how do I find out what module a device is using?
[10:57] <L0GAN> awe cannot connect to the internet lol
[10:57] <murlidhar_> FallenHitokiri: i have no option i can't find my wallpaper
[10:57] <Colro> how can i uninstall wine if i installed it via apt-get
[10:58] <prodigy> i have a problem, can someone help me ?
[10:58] <FallenHitokiri> novato_br: maybe because of depences. ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package. after updating / installing you can remove it and install your office pakcages again or you just install the packages you need and ubuntu-desktop referes to
[10:58] <FallenHitokiri> Colro: apt-get remove --purge wine
[10:58] <murlidhar_> Colro: sudo apt-get remove
[10:58] <Cheek> is mounting /boot like that even possible?
[10:58] <FallenHitokiri> Colro: or use synaptic
[10:58] <Cheek> though perhaps unconventional... seems to make sense in my case
[10:58] <novato_br> FallenHitokiri,
[10:58] <novato_br> thx
[10:59] <FallenHitokiri> novato_br: np
[10:59] <prodigy> i update xorg server and my keyboard dont work for ALTgr+symbols
[10:59] <Suggley> Is there some1 here that can help me with an issue installing MythTV following the instructions off the webpage?
[10:59] <novato_br> is it far ubuntu release  ?
[10:59] <prodigy> i update xorg server and my keyboard dont work for ALTgr+symbols
[10:59] <FallenHitokiri> Suggley: what problem do you have?
[10:59] <papo> Cheek: well ok but it has to be on a file system which is supported by grub
[10:59] <FallenHitokiri> novato_br: some days, you can already upgreade, beta should be stable
[10:59] <Suggley> Hi fallen - i have had a little bit of trouble installing mythtv from the website directions - 1st tzap can lock on channels on both interfaces - but wen i go to configure mythtv - it doesnt save any settings nor does it add any DTV cards that it does recognise - is there anything in partiular i should be looking for?
[10:59] <novato_br> thx
[11:00] <prodigy> alloo
[11:00] <prodigy> i update xorg server and my keyboard dont work for ALTgr+symbols
[11:00] <FallenHitokiri> Suggley: sorry, but i cannot help you with configuration i use vdr. did you use the ubuntu packages?
[11:00] <Colro> i tried to install steam with wine and it failed and now won't uninstall, it keeps coming back out of nowhere =|
[11:00] <Suggley> yes
[11:01] <prodigy> me ?
[11:01] <Suggley> btw - what is vdr?
[11:01] <Cheek> papo, a quick google says grub supports fat32.
[11:01] <ubuntu> hey how to mount mdf
[11:01] <FallenHitokiri> Suggley: video disk recorder - something like mythtv to watch tv, listen to music,... not this much polished but suiteable for me
[11:01] <ubuntu> there was a command like mount iso
[11:01] <papo> Cheek: yes but AFAIK not ntfs
[11:01] <ubuntu> !iso
[11:01] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[11:01] <Suggley> ahhh ok
[11:02] <papo> Cheek: so your shared partition should be fat
[11:02] <Cheek> thats fine. i dont have need ntfs
[11:02] <gordonjc1> ubuntu: drill and countersink a hole and then use ordinary chipboard screws
[11:02] <Suggley> its strange it recognises teh cards but u can add them
[11:02] <Cheek> it is! shared fat32
[11:02] <Suggley> it doesnt populate the database neither
[11:02] <FallenHitokiri> papo: a shared partition fat? sorry but this is ... fat sucks. a journaled system is standard. and windows suports ext3 and linux supports ntfs
[11:02] <papo> Cheek: Ok then you have to copy it and re-install grub in the mbr to make sure it finds the new location of the directory
[11:02] <ubuntu> gordonjc1 go from where you came.
[11:03] <FallenHitokiri> Suggley: isn't there a channel for the mythbuntu project? maybe this guys now a bit more about myth ;)
[11:03] <gordonjc1> ubuntu: :-p
[11:03] <Suggley> ahh dont know - will have a look
[11:03] <Suggley> thanx mate
[11:03] <boselecta> windows supports ext3?
[11:03] <papo> FallenHitokiri: Windows supports ext3? That's quite new to me. There is software for windows but Cheek said he doesen't want to install it
[11:03] <FallenHitokiri> Suggley: np
[11:03] <Ademan> hey what file is the apt database in?
[11:03] <ubuntu> no
[11:03] <ubuntu> gordonjc1 thisi s your prioblem
	windows supports ext3? no
[11:04] <CH1P> FallenHitokiri: lsmod | grep 8139 didnt work
[11:04] <papo> FallenHitokiri: And I didn't say linux didn't support ntfs. I was talking about grub
[11:04] <macbook> hi how are u....?
[11:04] <FallenHitokiri> papo: yeah - there are fs-drivers. after the first crash when fat is f*k up he know why to not use old unstable filesystem
[11:04] <Cheek> right.... but how do i mount /boot to a folder on a drive? what if the drive is already mounted to /media/shared? i basically want /boot to redirect to /media/shared/boot
[11:04] <astro76> boselecta, with an ext2/3 windows driver it will
[11:04] <macbook> anyone can helpme
[11:04] <FallenHitokiri> CH1P: what do you mean by: doesn't work - what was the output?
[11:04] <boselecta> oh i see. there's a third-party driver.
[11:05] <FallenHitokiri> _Hash_: it does. you just have to install the drivers
[11:05] <BobSapp> anyone know how i can enable twinview for my nvidia card (preferably using a script/program)
[11:05] <macbook> I want install ubuntu in my xbox 360 but I have a problem I need make a downgrade my kernel of my xbox 360
[11:05] <Ademan> anyone know where the apt database is stored?
[11:06] <astro76> BobSapp, one of the new features of Gutsy is an X control panel including dual monitor setup
[11:06] <macbook> I need how to please
[11:06] <CH1P> FallenHitokiri: i typed sudo lsmod | grep 8139, then i typed pppoeconf, then it showed /sbin :468 not found, do i need to restart?
[11:06] <pwnt-> FallenHitokiri: bro I was searching for w32codecs for awhile now, and couldn't find it
[11:06] <BobSapp> Ademan: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:06] <CH1P> FallenHitokiri: modconf cant still find it
[11:06] <FallenHitokiri> CH1P: what is the output of lsmod | grep 8139?
[11:06] <astro76> !medibuntu | pwnt- win32 codecs here...
[11:06] <ubotu> pwnt- win32 codecs here...: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[11:06] <CH1P> FallenHitokiri: it asked for passoword
[11:06] <Ademan> BobSapp: actually i'm talking about a file that contains information on all of the installed packages
[11:06] <BobSapp> astro76: hmm i just downgraded from gutsy last week lol
[11:07] <BobSapp> oh sorry
[11:07] <astro76> BobSapp, only 5 more days ;)
[11:07] <Cheek> i assume i just need to add an entry to fstab or mtab, but this seems like a weird setup, i'm not sure how to put that in, or which file.
[11:07] <FallenHitokiri> CH1P: and after you enterd it?
[11:07] <CH1P> FallenHitokiri: Nothing Happened
[11:07] <BobSapp> astro76: did they fix 3d support for nvidia in gutsy yet?
[11:07] <FallenHitokiri> CH1P: what is the output of ifconfig?
[11:08] <pwnt-> astro76: so that means I can't see .wmv files
[11:08] <macbook> anyone can helpe with my problem
[11:08] <astro76> BobSapp, I really don't know
[11:08] <FallenHitokiri> Ademan: you mean something like dpkg -l ?
[11:08] <CH1P> Ch1P: it said something like driver not found
[11:08] <papo> Cheek: You can mount /media/shared and copy /boot and then run grub-install with --root-directory after reading the manpage
[11:08] <sulo> Hi, is there any reason why I wouldn't be able to use FTP straight away in Ubuntu just from a "standard" install
[11:08] <CH1P> fallenhitokiri: it said something like driver not found
[11:08] <astro76> pwnt-, install w32codecs and you can
[11:08] <Ademan> FallenHitokiri: yeah what file is that? although i suppose that serves my purpose just fine
[11:08] <BobSapp> macbook: your problem is to do with downgrading your xbox 360's kernel, which is somewhat out of the scope of this chat room in my opinion
[11:08] <warbler> !ask | macbook
[11:08] <ubotu> macbook: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:08] <FallenHitokiri> sulo: ye: no internet connection ;)
[11:09] <astro76> sulo, because there are no servers installed by default
[11:09] <pwnt-> astro76: I did try to download & install it, but couldn't.
[11:09] <FallenHitokiri> CH1P: give me a real error message or nothing
[11:09] <astro76> pwnt-, what does couldn't mean?
[11:09] <CH1P> k i will brb
[11:09] <BobSapp> macbook: you should find a room to do with "modifying" the xbox or hacking it or something
[11:09] <papo> Cheek: and make sure you have some rescue system ready to fix it if you mess it up...
[11:09] <pwnt-> astro76: couldn't find w32codecs file :)
[11:09] <sulo> astro76, I mean, connecting to a remote server and not being able to retrieve the file list.. seems the port is being blocked
[11:09] <Cheek> would that just tell grub to look directly in /media/shared/boot ? so i could delete /boot completely?
[11:09] <astro76> pwnt-, there's instructions in that link on how to add medibuntu as a repository to your system
[11:09] <sulo> pwnt-: look for restricted formats on the ubuntu wiki
[11:09] <FallenHitokiri> Ademan: man dpkg tells you everything
[11:10] <Ademan> thanks a lot FallenHitokiri
[11:10] <astro76> sulo, nothing is blocked by default
[11:10] <FallenHitokiri> Ademan: np
[11:10] <macbook> I need how to make a dongraded the xbox360`s kernel
[11:10] <sulo> astro76, okay...thanks
[11:10] <papo> Cheek: First you should delete /boot only after you're sure it's working. But yes, it should to that
[11:10] <|logo|> macbook: maybe nobody knows it here at the moment....
[11:11] <FallenHitokiri> sulo: what client do you use?
[11:11] <BobSapp> macbook: try google
[11:11] <sulo> FallenHitokiri, gftp
[11:11] <boselecta> how do i get it so that i don't have to clean kernels out of menu.lst every so often?
[11:11] <papo> Cheek: having a dedicated partition for /boot would be more elegant and easier to set up, though
[11:11] <FallenHitokiri> sulo: should be no problem
[11:11] <sulo> FallenHitokiri, but I can't PUT files in term ftp either
[11:11] <macbook> ok tanks I  go do in google tanks bro  tanks so much
[11:11] <Cheek> yeah, thats actually what i was just thinking..
[11:11] <Jhs> hi. i have this vista shit now and it's driving me crazy. i'm trying to install ubuntu, but i don't know how to boot from cd.
[11:11] <BobSapp> "tanks"
[11:11] <astro76> boselecta, I usually just uninstall the old kernel when I don't want it anymore, and that removes the grub entry
[11:11] <BobSapp> :)
[11:12] <sulo> FallenHitokiri, I can log on to the server, but it (gftp, that is) just stands at "Retreiving file list" forever
[11:12] <pwnt-> astro76: I see howto for fiesty and edgy and dapper, but not for gutsy?
[11:12] <FallenHitokiri> Jhs: in your bios you have to cha nge the boot order
[11:12] <astro76> pwnt-, yeah well gutsy isn't released yet ;)
[11:12] <astro76> pwnt-, ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:12] <Jhs> FallenHitokiri, yeah, i did that when installing over winxp, but in this vista shit i have no idea how to fix the BIOS settings
[11:12] <FallenHitokiri> pwnt-: w32codecs works on every distri, just a bunch of files. do a dpkg -i w32codecs.deb and after that install gstreamer-pitfdll
[11:12] <BobSapp> probably the vendor turned of booting from cd, which would be stupid
[11:12] <Cheek> i guess i lose a little space, but it might be better to have /boot separate anyway...
[11:12] <FallenHitokiri> Jhs: vista has nothing to do with your bios
[11:12] <stdin> !language | Jhs
[11:12] <ubotu> Jhs: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:13] <papo> Cheek: definitely
[11:13] <boselecta> Jhs you'll do it the same way; probably F1 or Delete or Escape when you're booting up
[11:13] <daveinthesky> Jhs: when your computer first starts up just keep hitting F1, F10, F9, DEL, and INS
[11:13] <pwnt-> FallenHitokiri: I can't find the file w32codecs.deb to do "dpkg -i w32codecs.deb"
[11:13] <daveinthesky> one of those'll do it ;)
[11:13] <tanner> anyone know a method so that anyone who logins in (ssh, and locally) has every command they type, action they do is recorded and logged?
[11:13] <Cheek> I thought i saw something once about people putting kernel images on the boot partition too... anyone heard of that or set it up?
[11:13] <MasterAslan> on start up watch for something that says 'boot menu' you might not actually have to change the bios settings you may be able to just get a boot menu and choose the cd drive
[11:13] <FallenHitokiri> pwnt-: http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/
[11:14] <Jhs> ok, thanks, boselecta & dave :)
[11:14] <papo> Cheek: it's default
[11:14] <thewrinklyninja> anyone giveme ahnd on upgrade from feisty to gutsy?, running update-manager -d and it starts but then just exits out after checking packages
[11:14] <Cheek> papo, huh?
[11:14] <jhaig> How can I turn off the login screen sound?  I managed to do it with Edgy but now I have just installed Feisty and I cannot remember how I did it.
[11:14] <daveinthesky> tanner: you might be able to hook into the shell's $PROMPT_COMMAND
[11:14] <pwnt-> FallenHitokiri: are you sure this one for ubuntu? Looks like its for debian which I been told that its different.
[11:14] <daveinthesky> (assuming it's bash)
[11:14] <FallenHitokiri> thewrinklyninja: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:14] <thewrinklyninja> cheers
[11:14] <BobSapp> lol
[11:14] <BobSapp> jhaig: dont you like that login sound?
[11:15] <FallenHitokiri> pwnt-: i always use this on debian systems and never had a problem. why should it?
[11:15] <pwnt-> I'm on ubuntu gutsy system, not debian
[11:15] <astro76> tanner, there's ~/.bash_history
[11:15] <jhaig> BobSapp: No :-)
[11:15] <gordonjc1> jhaig: system->admin->accesibility
[11:15] <FallenHitokiri> pwnt-: yes me to and there is no differences. ubuntu is just a bit changed debian with more gui... *scnr*
[11:15] <gordonjc1> jhaig: and file a bug
[11:15] <MasterAslan> anyone have an idea on how to get past ubuntu install freezing at installing hardware usb-storage?
[11:16] <gordonjc1> because it should be part of the sounds configuration rather than away off somewhere else
[11:16] <BobSapp> MasterAslan: try the alternate install iso?
[11:16] <|logo|> thewrinklyninja: look https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[11:16] <gordonjc1> MasterAslan: unplug your USB disk?
[11:16] <MasterAslan> BobSapp tried it...not detecting the my second drive which I'm trying to install it on
[11:16] <thewrinklyninja> [Fallen]  tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it said complete nothing to upgrade. But am still running fiesty with gnome 2.20
[11:16] <tanner> astro76: thats really not detailed enough :-\, i want to log all their actions in a seperate file
[11:16] <sulo> I have a fujitsu siemens amilo pro 3525 laptop with two headphone jacks on the front. When I plug the headphones in, the laptop's speakers just keep on playing (sound is supposed to be redirected to the headphones automatically). Is there anyway I can fix this?
[11:16] <papo> Cheek: the kernel image package contains some firmware in /lib/firmware, modules in /lib/modules/ and the actual kernel in /boot
[11:16] <FallenHitokiri> time for breakfast... cu guys
[11:16] <thewrinklyninja> [Fallen]  tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it said complete nothing to upgrade. But am still running fiesty with gnome 2.18 even
[11:16] <tanner> daveinthesky: any links on further reading regarding that
[11:17] <Cheek> ooh. :)
[11:17] <BobSapp> MasterAslan: are you trying to install ubuntu on a usb disk?
[11:17] <boselecta> sulo: sure you're not plugging into mic jack?
[11:17] <papo> Cheek: it also builds a ramdisk which also goes to /boot
[11:17] <FallenHitokiri> thewrinklyninja: did you chagne your sources list and run a apt-get update?
[11:17] <macbook> sorry Thanks
[11:17] <MasterAslan> BobSapp no. secondary sata disk
[11:17] <jhaig> gordonjc1: I don't see system -> admin -> accesibility.  Also, it is not that I don't like the particular sound, but that I don't want it making any sound at all.
[11:17] <|logo|> thewrinklyninja: Alt + F2 then update-manager -d
[11:18] <BobSapp> theres a kernel parameter to disable usb support
[11:18] <daveinthesky> tanner: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/x264.html . word of warning -- if they know you're doing it, it's extremely easy to disable. "export PROMPT_COMMAND='something else'"
[11:18] <BobSapp> something like no-usb
[11:18] <Cheek> while i'm shuffling, anything else make sense to get moved to a /boot partition?
[11:18] <thewrinklyninja> tried Alt + F2 then update-manager -d, it starts and then just exits out of the upgrader after the first bit
[11:18] <gordonjc1> jhaig: System menu at the top of your screen
[11:18] <FallenHitokiri> thewrinklyninja: did you chagne your sources list and run a apt-get update?
[11:18] <gordonjc1> jhaig: then go to "Administration", the second option in the System menu
[11:18] <thewrinklyninja> hmm, its now saying my sources list is locked
[11:18] <DevideZero> hello , i can request ubuntu gusty from shipit ?
[11:18] <tanner> daveinthesky: hmm, any other suggestions perhaps? id like to encapsulate them in something like the script command
[11:18] <boselecta> sulo?
[11:19] <sulo> boselecta, yes?
[11:19] <gordonjc1> jhaig: then go to "Login Window"
[11:19] <papo> Cheek: Well you should be fine if you just copy everything which is in your current /boot/. But make sure you update your mbr and double-check your fstab
[11:19] <gordonjc1> jhaig: then "Accessibility"
[11:19] <boselecta> sulo: sure you're not plugging into mic jack?
[11:19] <gordonjc1> jhaig: it's one of the first things I do
[11:19] <jhaig> gordonjc1: Ah, the missing step - "Login Window".  Thanks.
[11:19] <MasterAslan> BobSapp so I could use no-usb as a boot parameter and then once ubuntu installed then I could work on getting it working?
[11:19] <sulo> boselecta, the symbols are a bit obscure, so I tried them both. neither works
[11:19] <gordonjc1> jhaig: bah, sorry, typo, I'm only half-way through my first coffee of the morning
[11:19] <|logo|> thewrinklyninja: I tried it on my laptop and it was fine.... Try the ubuntuhelp site I posted previously..
[11:19] <thewrinklyninja> hmm, gonna do a reoboot and try it again
[11:19] <thewrinklyninja> Ok, thanks
[11:19] <jhaig> gordonjc1: Thanks.  I'm sure I looked there before.  I'm obviously going blind.
[11:20] <[irtool] > hello guys. one question. i installed kubuntu on my machine parallel to a windows installation. now i'am looking for the windows partitions. normaly they should be under /media - or are i'am looking at the wrong place?
[11:20] <boselecta> curious. usually the headphone jack is not a software-controlled thing AFAIK.
[11:20] <gordonjc1> jhaig: it's a total PITA
[11:20] <gordonjc1> jhaig: I don't want my computer making any noises I don't tell it to ;-)
[11:20] <Cheek> what about moving my /home to /media/shared/home?
[11:20] <papo> Cheek: that's definitely a bad idea
[11:20] <aLeSD> hi all . Could someone suggest me an application to read the ps format ?
[11:21] <Stevethepirate> irvken: you still there?
[11:21] <gordonjc1> aLeSD: evince should do it
[11:21] <Cheek> ':/ why is that? seems like i'd want to access my home directory from windows..
[11:21] <aLeSD> gordonjc1: thanks
[11:21] <jhaig> gordonjc1: I had forgotten about the login sounds - yesterday I put in the Gutsy RC at work.  Fortunately, there weren't too many people in at the time.
[11:21] <Stevethepirate> * [irtool]
[11:21] <irvken> Stevethepirate, yes I am, why?
[11:21] <boselecta> sulo: it looks like there is a solution. e.g., this is an issue for other people too. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/101986
[11:21] <[irtool] > es
[11:22] <[irtool] > yes
[11:22] <Stevethepirate> irvken: soz, meant [irtool]
[11:22] <sulo> boselecta, great, I'll check it out. thanks!
[11:22] <papo> Cheek: yes but as FallenHitokiri said, there are reasons not to choose fat as main file system. And fat does not support access permissions
[11:22] <Stevethepirate> [irtool] : kk, is the drive ntfs/fat/?
[11:22] <[irtool] > ntfs
[11:22] <Stevethepirate> u on feisty?
[11:22] <DevideZero> hello , i can request ubuntu gusty from shipit ?
[11:23] <[irtool] > yes
[11:23] <Angel_Pri>  http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/
[11:23] -Angel_Pri:#ubuntu-  http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/
[11:23] <Cheek> really? i could swear i saw permissions in my /media/shared.. or are they just not enforced?
[11:23] <Stevethepirate> [irtool] : you need ntfs-3g
[11:23] <papo> Cheek: they are all the same
[11:23] <[irtool] > what is that? +g*
[11:23] <Stevethepirate> then need to add the the drive to /etc/fstab
[11:23] <papo> Cheek: you can't change them, they are just static and can be defined while mounting
[11:23] <Stevethepirate> its an ntfs rw driver
[11:24] <[irtool] > is this driver available on the install-cd?
[11:24] <Stevethepirate> naught
[11:24] <wolfalfa> hello guys, i just tried to upgrade to gutsy (beta) and X won't start: failed to load module fglrx (module requirement mismatch)
[11:24] <wolfalfa> any help is appreciated
[11:24] <CH1P> FallenHitokiri: The Response for ifconfig is: SIOCSIFADDR: No Such Devce | eth0: Error while getting interface flags : no such device
[11:24] <Stevethepirate> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[11:24] <LinuxJuggalo> [irtool] : are you using gutsy or feisty?
[11:25] <DevideZero> [irtool]  its still free ?
[11:25] <Cheek> ooh, ok--thanks for the tip! :) so you'd again reccomend the ext3 driver for windows to access your /home directory?
[11:25] <tanner> daveinthesky: http://honeypots.sourceforge.net/modified_script.html seems like it might be what i was looking for
[11:25] <[irtool] > LinuxJuggalo, feisty. but Stevethepirate answered my question
[11:25] <daveinthesky> nice
[11:25] <[irtool] > Stevethepirate, thanks. i will see what i can do
[11:25] <papo> Cheek: yes
[11:25] <LinuxJuggalo> [irtool] : then do sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[11:26] <[irtool] > first of all i have to make the wlan working
[11:26] <MasterAslan> is there a list of boot parameters somewhere?
[11:26] <Stevethepirate> LinuxJuggalo: ntfs-config is phail
[11:26] <LinuxJuggalo> [irtool] : then after that is installed go to applications>system tools>NTFS configuration tool
[11:26] <LinuxJuggalo> Stevethepirate: ntfs-3g is not available for feisty
[11:27] <Stevethepirate> LinuxJuggalo: BS
[11:27] <boselecta> am i the only one who can't reach ubuntuforums.org ?
[11:27] <Stevethepirate> i was using it since feisty came out
[11:27] <billy_> hello folks, just install wy60 emulator, but there no entry in terminfo for it. Where can I find the termdef for wy60? thanks!
[11:27] <LinuxJuggalo> Stevethepirate: its not in the repos
[11:27] <Stevethepirate> till 3 days ago
[11:27] <Stevethepirate> LinuxJuggalo: its in universe i think.
[11:27] <Stevethepirate> *was
[11:27] <[irtool] > hmmm
[11:27] <[irtool] > okay, i think i need the ndiswrapper
[11:28] <J-23> LinxJuggalo: Feisty is 7.10?
[11:28] <astro76> LinuxJuggalo, ntfs-3g is a dependency of ntfs-config
[11:28] <Cheek> thanks much papo
[11:28] <Stevethepirate> J-23: yeah
[11:28] <h0vding> can someone tell me what dougfractal is ? and where I can get it ?
[11:28] <Stevethepirate> no
[11:28] <Stevethepirate> thats gutsy
[11:28] <J-23> Hmm...
[11:28] <Stevethepirate> sorry, still pissed from last night
[11:28] <LinuxJuggalo> J-23: feisty is ubuntu 7.04
[11:28] <papo> Cheek: you're welcome
[11:28] <Stevethepirate> 7.04 was feisty
[11:28] <LinuxJuggalo> !feisty
[11:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - For BitTorrent downloads, see !Torrents
[11:28] <J-23> I use NTFS-3g on Ubuntu Feisty
[11:28] <sulo> boselecta, would it be enough to reload the module affected for the changes to take effect?
[11:28] <LinuxJuggalo> !gutsy
[11:28] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:28] <LinuxJuggalo> !hardy
[11:28] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for Ubuntu 8.04-LTS, due April 2008. For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron
[11:28] <Stevethepirate> J-23: high five
[11:29] <CH1P> "wired connection" or "ethernet" doesn't appear in administration > network
[11:29] <boselecta> sulo i think so, but i'm not an expert
[11:29] <sulo> boselecta, thanks
[11:29] <h0vding> !dougfractal
[11:29] <Stevethepirate> This is irritating me.. little 'click' between track changing on amarok..
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dougfractal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:30] <LinuxJuggalo> J-23: its not in the default feisty repositories
[11:30] <J-23> Hmm...
[11:30] <LinuxJuggalo> besides its the same thing
[11:30] <LinuxJuggalo> lol
[11:30] <LinuxJuggalo> pretty much
[11:30] <Stevethepirate> LinuxJuggalo: "The ntfs-3g is in the universe section of ubuntu"
[11:30] <smmagic> Would it be worth compiling my own Cedega?
[11:31] <Stevethepirate> smmagic: if you don't have the .deb
[11:31] <Stevethepirate> LinuxJuggalo: www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-complete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html
[11:31] <mechdave> Is there a compat lib for libc6 in 7.04?
[11:31] <smmagic> I
[11:31] <smmagic> Im too cheap to pay
[11:31] <Stevethepirate> Lol @ the fact that Dapper has support until 2011
[11:31] <Stevethepirate> smmagic: Cedega is commerical software.
[11:31] <astro76> !info ntfs-3g | LinuxJuggalo
[11:31] <ubotu> linuxjuggalo: ntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.328-1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 88 kB
[11:31] <astro76> !info ntfs-config | LinuxJuggalo
[11:31] <ubotu> linuxjuggalo: ntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB
[11:31] <smmagic> http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=cedegacvs
[11:31] <Stevethepirate> So, either stop talking about it.
[11:32] <Stevethepirate> Or pm me :P
[11:32] <smmagic> Seems to be a free way to get cedega
[11:32] <h0vding> does anyone have a link wich shows me how to install new distro directly from harddisk ?
[11:32] <CH1P>  "wired connection" or "ethernet" doesn't appear in administration > network
[11:32] <astro76> Stevethepirate, 2009 for the desktop
[11:32] <papo> smmagic: HUH?
[11:32] <Till> hi, can someone explain me how to isntal avant window navigator on ubuntu gutsy? i cant find a tutorial or something
[11:32] <papo> smmagic: ah sorry I'm always mixing up celera and cedega
[11:33] <boselecta> sulo did you get it working?
[11:33] <lisa_> can anyone recommend any good games
[11:33] <Cheek> is there any problem creating /boot as a logical partition? with my ntfs windows ext3 linux fat32 shared and an extended for swap, i'm full up. Can i put /boot in the extended?
[11:33] <Stevethepirate> astro76: was referring to servers.
[11:33] <Stevethepirate> !shippit
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shippit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <Stevethepirate> !shipit
[11:33] <LinuxJuggalo> lisa_: pacman
[11:33] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Feisty (7.04) CDs
[11:34] <astro76> Cheek, that should be fine
[11:34] <lisa_> cheers
[11:35] <dromer> hi all, I'm having a weird thing here: I have 2 hd's one with all system-files, /home and another large partition. the other is just fillpd with movies. now I wanted to remove the 2nd hd and put it in another pc, but when I booted without it I got a root prompt saying I have to install apt o.O   wth is this and how can I boot without this hd
[11:35] <Till> jemand da der meine sprache spricht? *G*
[11:35] <zz5423> !de | Till
[11:35] <ubotu> Till: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:35] <Till> thx
[11:35] <Till> ^^
[11:35] <Till> =)
[11:36] <CH1P> "wired connection" or "ethernet" doesn't appear in administration > network
[11:37] <LinuxJuggalo> CH1P: does eth0 appear?
[11:37] <J-23> !pl
[11:37] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:37] <J-23> !es
[11:37] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:37] <J-23> :D
[11:37] <J-23> !spam #zapalki
[11:37] <cjae_> quick question if have a win a wireless card and an ethernet card  and a lin box behind a router and the win box has is almost constantly using the eth may to pass file to the lin box via the wiless card to the router?
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam #zapalki - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <scapor> Does anybody know OOo calc here ? How to disply the mathematical function of a linear regression?  I've managed to display the line but I'd like it to show me the function ... ?
[11:38] <cjae_> edit: (and a lin box behind a router)
[11:38] <CH1P> LinuxJuggalo: no
[11:38] <cjae_> lin and win boxes have different wan ip's
[11:39] <crdlb> scapor, if I remember correctly, it's not possible
[11:39] <cjae_> but both boxes are under same roof
[11:40] <scapor> crdlb: Oh my god ... if that's true OOo really isn't up to what it should be ... Ms Excell is used a lot for these kinds of tasks in our schools and I wanted to use OOo :|
[11:40] <papo> scapor: Hm I can try
[11:40] <kissing_angel18> computor!!!!!!!
[11:40] <scapor> I tried a lot but cannot find it (yet)
[11:40] <wolfalfa> guys, sorry to re-post:
[11:40] <wolfalfa> hello guys, i just tried to upgrade to gutsy (beta) and X won't start: failed to load module fglrx (module requirement mismatch)
[11:41] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hi
[11:41] <Colro> is there a way to install wine's mozilla gecko browser whatever thing without having an application try to use it beforehand? trying to install steam and i can't install the gecko browser for some reason -- can't click install, even though the window isn't locked up
[11:41] <crdlb> scapor, calc is the weakest part of the suite
[11:41] <warbler> !ubuntu+1
[11:41] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:41] <dromer> anyrone on my hd issue? :/
[11:42] <wolfalfa> thanks warbler
[11:42] <papo> sacater: can't find it either
[11:42] <papo> sacater: http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?p=255973
[11:42] <CH1P>  "wired connection" or "ethernet" doesn't appear in administration > network
[11:43] <warbler> k
[11:43] <Cheek> I'm trying to use gparted from the live cd, but it looks like ubuntu wont stop mounting the disks so that i can edit their parition tables...
[11:43] <papo> Cheek: you can unmount them by hand
[11:44] <papo> sacater: Hm I know why I'm not using this product :). If I had to I would compute the formula, it's very easy but still
[11:44] <nanbudh> i have a pddf file which is actually a scanned text image. is there any way i can edit that text?
[11:44] <Cheek> tried unmounting via gui right click and they come right back up... umount /dev/sda3 gives '..not mounted acording to mtab'
[11:44] <david003> hello. i want to create a script that moves me to a folder and then launches wine client.exe
[11:44] <papo> Cheek: are you sure it still is mounted?
[11:45] <warbler> dromer: if you mounted it in fstab that might be your issue - try the rescue kernel at boot and edit the fstab file
[11:45] <david003> hello. i want to create a script that moves me to a folder and then launches wine client.exe
[11:45] <nanbudh> i tried a couple of pdf editors  but i need a free option and that too which will convert text image into ediatble text. any ideas?
[11:45] <papo> david003: Hi... then I'd suggest you to do it or to show us what you did and what is not working
[11:46] <yogiB> david003: why do want to move into the folder?
[11:46] <Cheek> well... it looks like they arent. they show up as "30gb volume" and "disk" i'm assuming that the 'volume' label is for unmounted partitions.. but gparted doesnt seem to be able to resize even in this state
[11:46] <CH1P>  "wired connection" or "ethernet" doesn't appear in administration > network
[11:46] <david003> because that is where client.exe
[11:46] <|logo|> CH1P: stop it...
[11:48] <boselecta> scapor you can just use SLOPE(Y:X) and INTERCEPT(Y:X) for the linear regression coeffs
[11:49] <warbler> CHIP: your hardware might not be supported...
[11:49] <zz5423> CH1P: lspci -v -nn | grep Ethernet
[11:51] <boselecta> actually in OOo you can get the formula automatically. select the regressed curve and then formula and R^2 is displayed at the bottom.
[11:52] <boselecta> in 2.3
[11:52] <boselecta> i guess scapor left
[11:52] <ccharles> say, is help.ubuntu.com down?
[11:53] <boselecta> ccharles: i'm having trouble too
[11:53] <|logo|> ccharles: no, try https://help.ubuntu.com
[11:53] <warbler> can't get the forums myself either
[11:53] <ccharles> |logo|: yes, i have https:// there. can't access it from australia, and another machine i have sitting in the uk
[11:53] <toxguy24> question: if im using the Ubuntu 7.10 beta version, are updates gonna be available to level my version with the stable release?
[11:54] <ccharles> toxguy24: afaik, yes
[11:54] <|logo|> I can access it form Germany :)
[11:54] <warbler> !gutsy
[11:54] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:54] <gordonjc1> I can access it from the UK, but there are a lot of other things I *can't* access
[11:54] <h0vding> does anyone have a link wich shows me how to install new distro directly from harddisk ?
[11:54] <dromer> warbler: rescue-kernel being that root-prompt I get?
[11:54] <toxguy24> well, a lot of applications have been crashing like Kopete and Firefox
[11:54] <ccharles> gordonjc1: a lot of other ubuntu related things, or are the interwebs sick in the uk ? ;-)
[11:55] <dromer> warbler: I'm booted in the system now, can I just edit the fstab now and then reboot without the hd?
[11:55] <warbler> dromer: yep
[11:55] <dromer> warbler: I can just comment out the UUID of the disk?
[11:55] <warbler> #
[11:55] <dromer> yes
[11:55] <dromer> ok, I'll try :)
[11:55] <warbler> k
[11:55] <ccharles> ooh, its working again
[11:56] <boselecta> not here
[11:56] <ccharles> (slowly...)
[11:56] <namiwawa> Can anyone tell me how to install windows in Linux
[11:56] <ccharles> well, seems like its a known problem, hopefully the Ubuntu admins know...
[11:56] <namiwawa> my wine seems not to be working
[11:57] <locke> So, I've decided that an Ubuntu is a steamed hazelnut milk, who agrees?
[11:57] <namiwawa> isnt there a program called windows for LInux
[11:58] <rredd4> vmware
[11:59] <FallenHitokiri> namiwawa: wine, virtualbox, qemu, bochs,...
[12:01] <[irtool] > how can I find out the "devid" of a pci-card?
[12:02] <zz5423> [irtool] : lspci -v -nn   shows you vendor/product ids of all pci cards
[12:02] <[irtool] > thank ou
[12:02] <[irtool] > you*
[12:02] <cultavix> good morning, does anyone know how I can add repositories with games in them ??
[12:04] <namiwawa> FallenHitokiri, thanks for the tips
[12:04] <ArmedKing> Is Orphan safe to use?
[12:04] <FallenHitokiri> namiwawa: no problem
[12:05] <zcat[1] > zZzZ
[12:05] <warbler> are the forum servers down?
[12:06] <PriceChild> warbler, no we're alive
[12:06] <ArmedKing> warbler: I cant reach them too
[12:07] <warbler> PriceChild: can't connect from aus
[12:07] <PriceChild> warbler, ArmedKing try clearing your browser cache.
[12:08] <dromer> warbler: yay, it workethet, though the first time I got some weird error on one of the partitions (almost got to the login-prompt)
[12:08] <dromer> warbler: some Buffer I/O error, but it's booted fine now :)
[12:09] <warbler> dromer: good for you :)
[12:09] <dromer> hehe, now to hope the other pc gets the dik immediately ;)
[12:09] <dromer> will try it later
[12:10] <dromer> now breakfost time :)
[12:11] <soulfreshner> I've installed ubuntu 7.0v and I want to install the kernel headers, but the kernel headers getting installed (2.6.20-16) and the kernel I am running (2.6.20-15) don't match - the kernels are
[12:11] <soulfreshner> does that minor number not matter?
[12:11] <warbler> PriceChild: with a cleared cache the browser still hangs
[12:12] <Romeo-> hello
[12:12] <demortes> Hey
[12:12] <Romeo-> what for a tv apllication do oyu use?
[12:12] <warbler> !hi
[12:12] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:12] <demortes> I'm very confused. Every file that is "Translate en-US" or something like that, the update manager fails to get... is there a problem with the servers at this moment?
[12:12] <simplechat> hey
[12:13] <simplechat> i've run out of space on my root partition
[12:13] <PriceChild> warbler, hmm its definitely working here... :/ I assume its your problem. Any other sites having problems?
[12:13] <simplechat> nothing will load
[12:13] <simplechat> i've sudo rm -rf'd /tmp, and it still hasn't fixed it
[12:13] <acer_fusion> for tv try mythtv
[12:13] <warbler> PriceChild: all ok elsewhere
[12:13] <simplechat> can i either make my / bigger, or, else, how do i get things to start so i can remove stuff from it?
[12:13] <simplechat> (i have an 80 gig / partition)
[12:14] <demortes> And you've filled that up? You download torrents?
[12:14] <simplechat> nope
[12:14] <simplechat> i just went nuts with add/remove programs :(
[12:14] <demortes> heh, try this
[12:14] <BobSapp> lol
[12:14] <demortes> open a terminal
[12:14] <simplechat> i have a terminal open, a new one won't load
[12:14] <demortes> and type "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[12:14] <PriceChild> warbler, come into #ubuntuforums and poke jdong :P
[12:14] <ashfaq> Help please! installed fiesty today, upgraded softwares, in order to resolve resolution downloaded envy, but now my pc is not booting!
[12:15] <BobSapp> *envy*
[12:15] <simplechat> demortes: nothing happened. - upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, 0 not upgraded
[12:15] <BobSapp> ashfaq: did u actually run the envy script?
[12:15] <demortes> try sudo apt-get autoclean I think it is
[12:15] <[irtool] > hm
[12:15] <demortes> !envy
[12:15] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[12:15] <[irtool] > does i ahve to reboot my system if i installed a driver via ndiswrapper?
[12:15] <ashfaq> Envy downloaded all its requirement , and asked for a reboot, but now the pc is noot booting, instead a lot of commands are displayed
[12:15] <simplechat> ok, autoclean ran through and deleted a few packages
[12:16] <BobSapp> ya envy.
[12:16] <demortes> I doubt a lot of space is cleaned up, but how much?
[12:16] <simplechat> Failed to run /usr/bin/gnome-mount --hal-udi /org/freedesktop/hal/devices/volume_uuid..... as user root.
[12:16] <simplechat> ?
[12:16] <ashfaq> BobSapp Yes, and it downloaded the drivers etc, asked for a restart, now I am held up
[12:16] <simplechat> democrates, enough that terminal now starts
[12:16] <aum> hi - are ubuntu feed servers down?
[12:17] <demortes> aum: Just asked that, no answer.
[12:17] <demortes> aum: You having problems with Translation-en_US?
[12:17] <simplechat> demortes: can i repartition without loosing my data?
[12:17] <demortes> simplechat: I'm not sure on the capabilities of gparted, but possibly
[12:17] <aum> demortes: i'm having trouble with apt-get update - ubuntu feeds are totally unresponsive
[12:17] <ashfaq> I am running the live cd to communicate to you
[12:17] <simplechat> hmmm.
[12:17] <demortes> aum: I get some response, but not on the translations... suddenlty release.gpg is having problems now too
[12:17] <simplechat> demortes: then what should i do?
[12:17] <demortes> aum: Let me do a complete check
[12:18] <demortes> simplechat: I've given you the two tips I know of, I'm not the best, but I've seen those answers earlier today
[12:18] <ashfaq> Please guide me as to how to come to graphical screen as I dont know the command list to reach
[12:18] <demortes> ashfaq: gdm is often enough
[12:19] <demortes> aum: I get hits on everything except translation files
[12:19] <ashfaq> You mean type "gdm" at the prompt displayed?
[12:19] <simplechat> demortes: can i please have guidence?
[12:19] <demortes> ashfaq: That's worked for me
[12:19] <demortes> simplechat: Again, I don't know. Those two tips I've given you have been here earlier today
[12:19] <simplechat> ok
[12:19] <demortes> simplechat: I would see if you can find a command to find where all the space is being taken.
[12:20] <simplechat> how would i work out exactly how much left it has?
[12:20] <simplechat> yeah
[12:20] <ashfaq> demortes Please confirm I only have to type 'gdm' right and enter
[12:20] <demortes> simplechat: In term? Umm, try "man du"
[12:20] <demortes> ashfaq: Should be fine
[12:20] <ashfaq> Okay, where I will land (demortes) than
[12:21] <demortes> ashfaq: It wont break anything, assuming all packages are installed, you should be able to launch the graphical interface for gnome
[12:21] <demortes> kdm for kubuntu
[12:21] <simplechat> demortes: i'm  only using 54 gigs of 80 gigs. what the?
[12:21] <demortes> simplechat: autoclean did that much cleaning?
[12:22] <ashfaq> I see thanks than , should I restart or you want me to take some more instructions?
[12:22] <demortes> ashfaq: GDM should launch the display manager without reboot
[12:22] <simplechat> demortes: i don't know. is there a command to show me how big the drive can be? (or is it in fstab?)
[12:23] <demortes> simplechat: Hrm, that I'd have to research, give me a min
[12:23] <ashfaq> Than I dont have to reboot, I am on live cd now?
[12:23] <demortes> ashfaq: Oh, you're in the gui on livecd?
[12:23] <BobSapp>  /connect irc.rizon.net
[12:23] <BobSapp> _
[12:23] <ferronica> i using this guide to mount and unmount, but no success can anyone please tell me how to do it ?
[12:24] <ashfaq> Yes I had installed 7.04 on hard drive about 2 hrs back
[12:24] <kahrytan> how do you use apt-get to purge packages instead of just remove?
[12:24] <ferronica> Bossmanbeta: ?
[12:24] <demortes> simplechat: df command displays filesystem disk usage for all mounted partitions
[12:24] <ferronica> Bossmanbeta: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html
[12:24] <PriceChild> kahrytan, apt-get remove --purge
[12:24] <ashfaq> I updated all the packages and than went for envy as someone guided that it will resolve the screen problem
[12:24] <ferronica> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html
[12:24] <demortes> ashfaq: Can you launch recovery mode from GRUB?
[12:24] <newguy> hey there ive got some issues with internet connection sometimes everynow and then i cant view webpages, it takes forever to load them, ive got this message in the sys logs too: Oct 13 23:22:18 ZION kernel: [ 7443.748590]  eth0: Media Link On 100mbps full-duplex, = is this message relevant?
[12:25] <simplechat> demortes: /dev/sda1 is 100$ in use. aparently
[12:25] <ashfaq> That need to be rebooted right
[12:25] <Zasch> Hello. I notice that, when I have a text file, the icon for the text file displays some of the content of the file. Is there any way to disable this?
[12:25] <Baron[Laptop] > Got one more question for folks, How do I enable the terminal so I can do this from another computer instead of sitting in front of the server
[12:25] <demortes> ashfaq: Yes, if you can get into recovery mode, you can do some troubleshooting from inside of that installation
[12:26] <FallenHitokiri> newguy: not really. was does a ifconfig -a | grep mtu show you?
[12:26] <demortes> simplechat: Hmm
[12:26] <ashfaq> I understand than you have the option for recovery, and what is grub
[12:26] <simplechat> demortes: this is not good
[12:26] <FallenHitokiri> Baron[Laptop] : ssh
[12:26] <simplechat> i take it?
[12:26] <Black^Dragon> I have a simple question, Im about to upgrade vid cards, running an nvidia 32mb card atm, installing an nvidia 5200 256mb card, do I need to reconfigure x.org or any conf file????
[12:26] <Bossmanbeta> ferronica, what are u asking me?
[12:26] <demortes> simplechat: That's full space.... you just removed some stuff, shouldn't be 100%
[12:26] <newguy> ifconfig -a | grep mtu = shows nothing in terminal
[12:26] <pere_> I have no sound in gibbon beta... I need the script to sens #alsa my alsainfo anyone knows where I can download the script?
[12:26] <FallenHitokiri> Black^Dragon: drivers should be the same - maybe a little tweaking afterwards, but it should start
[12:26] <FallenHitokiri> newguy: plase paste ifconfig
[12:27] <simplechat> demorttes: yeah. should i restart? or repartition?
[12:27] <newguy> !pastebin
[12:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:27] <ferronica> Bossmanbeta: mount iso image
[12:27] <demortes> simplechat: If you repartition, it's likely to fill up quickly... you got a syslog filling your HDD?
[12:27] <Black^Dragon> ok thank you FallenHitokiri as long as it starts, I can fine tune it later, thanks
[12:27] <ferronica> Bossmanbeta: to ammend some stuff
[12:27] <ashfaq> demortes: help me understand please
[12:27] <FallenHitokiri> Black^Dragon: np
[12:27] <newguy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40513/
[12:27] <ferronica> Bossmanbeta: I tried lot no success
[12:27] <newguy> ^^ ifconfig output
[12:27] <simplechat> demortes: syslog?
[12:27] <Bossmanbeta> ... i told u how to do that, and that link says to do it the same exact way ...  "Using loop Kernel Module"
[12:28] <Bossmanbeta> well you need to read it carefully.
[12:28] <demortes> ashfaq: GRUB is a bootloader, if you dual boot you'll select windows, etc. It'll give you the option to scroll down to recovery mode
[12:28] <daveinthesky> Zasch: right-click desktop -> configure -> behavior -> file icons -> unclick text files
[12:28] <ashfaq> In the recovery mode what do I type my first command
[12:28] <demortes> simplechat: Ubuntu keeps a syslog, listing a bunch of errors... let me find a command
[12:28] <daveinthesky> oops, sorry, I use kde. :(
[12:28] <newguy> anything out of the ordinary?
[12:28] <demortes> ashfaq: If you can get into a GUI, or even a terminal, perhaps a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[12:29] <simplechat> demortes: /usr is 30 gigs, for some reason
[12:29] <ashfaq> Okay but it needs some instruction to go ahead, in the recovery mode if I type gdm will it do
[12:29] <demortes> ashfaq: Recovery mode should give you gui
[12:29] <demortes> simplechat:  Hold on
[12:30] <ferronica> Bossmanbeta: I tried script one
[12:30] <Baron[Laptop] > thanks all, probobly be back when I screw up again
[12:30] <ashfaq> Okay thanks I will be back
[12:30] <Bossmanbeta> ferronica, read the WHOLE page.
[12:30] <Bossmanbeta> hint: Using loop Kernel Module
[12:30] <kikkertje> Hi, could someone help me out with some problem i am having. When i booted this morning, i received a kernel panic ( failed to load /init).
[12:30] <FallenHitokiri> kikkertje: feisty? did you run a update?
[12:30] <namiwawa> 64 bytes from w2.rc.vip.scd.yahoo.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=1574 ttl=51 time=861 ms (DUP!)
[12:30] <pere_> yep people I have no sound with ubuntu gutsy beta. I've posted a bug...but there's a way to debug the problem?
[12:31] <FallenHitokiri> pere_: #ubuntu+1
[12:31] <pere_> ok
[12:31] <namiwawa> whats DUP??
[12:31] <newguy> FallenHitokiri: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40513/  = anything out of the ordinary?
[12:31] <kikkertje> FallenHitokiri, feisty indeed, and i didn't run a update, the last thing i did, was making changes in my startup-manager
[12:31] <namiwawa> whats DUP? 64 bytes from w2.rc.vip.scd.yahoo.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=1574 ttl=51 time=861 ms (DUP!)
[12:32] <ksivaji> namiwawa google
[12:32] <demortes> simplechat: df -h should report it in a more readable fasion
[12:32] <FallenHitokiri> kikkertje: maybe we found the proble ;)
[12:32] <FallenHitokiri> kikkertje: do you have a old kernel installed you could try?
[12:32] <FallenHitokiri> newguy: looks right. do you have problems with every page when this happens or only with 1-2
[12:32] <simplechat> df - no such file, h no such file filesystem /dev/sda1  use% 100
[12:33] <kikkertje> yes, i'm using <IP_ADDRESS>-generic at the moment, and it seems to work normal
[12:33] <simplechat> 20161172 blocks avalible 19097964 used
[12:33] <newguy> FallenHitokiri: well it appears that its only the ubuntu forums i cant seem to connect too, anyother website is fine :S
[12:33] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: df -h not df - h
[12:33] <simplechat> ah
[12:33] <simplechat> 19gig out of 20g avalible 39meg
[12:34] <FallenHitokiri> newguy: ubuntuservers seem to have a bit high load so shortly before gutsy is released ;)
[12:34] <newguy> ahh ok :)
[12:34] <simplechat> it was 80 gig, i don't get why its 20 gigs
[12:34] <demortes> simplechat: You should be able to do du -h to get a list of directories in your current directory, and how much they use, narrow it down
[12:34] <ferronica> Bossmanbeta: BLACKXP_4_DVD_FINAL.iso: No such file or directory
[12:34] <demortes> I don't know
[12:34] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: du -hs /directory/*
[12:35] <warbler> newguy: I'm in aus and having the same prob
[12:35] <FallenHitokiri> warbler: ubuntuservers seem to have a bit high load so shortly before gutsy is released ;)
[12:35] <newguy> ah, so everyones trying to dl gutsy atm?
[12:35] <kikkertje> FallenHitokiri,  yes, i'm using <IP_ADDRESS>-generic at the moment, and it seems to work normal
[12:35] <FallenHitokiri> newguy: reporting bugs, checking problems, asking if its save to upgrade and how to upgrade
[12:36] <newguy> ah true lol
[12:36] <PriceChild> !gutsy | newguy FallenHitokiri
[12:36] <ubotu> newguy FallenHitokiri: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[12:36] <warbler> cooking a roast and thought I would try and help while waiting.... - no luck yet
[12:36] <FallenHitokiri> kikkertje: check your grub menu.lst to see if you have missconfigured something and make sure your current kernel is installed right (or reinstall)
[12:36] <FallenHitokiri> PriceChild: what do you try to tell me?
[12:37] <thebreak31> Ciao, c' qualche italiano?
[12:37] <PriceChild> FallenHitokiri, that all discussion of gutsy should be in +1
[12:37] <thebreak31> Non so che canale raggiungere...
[12:37] <PriceChild> !it | thebreak31
[12:37] <ubotu> thebreak31: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:37] <thebreak31> Thanks.
[12:37] <FallenHitokiri> PriceChild: please read again why I mentioned gutsy
[12:37] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: i see thousands of tiny files
[12:38] <simplechat> nothing big
[12:38] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: what partition has space problems?
[12:38] <simplechat> /dev/sda1
[12:38] <simplechat> or /
[12:38] <simplechat> its 20gigs, apparently (i remember partitioning it to 80 gigs)
[12:38] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: du a du -hs /*
[12:38] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: do a du -hs /*
[12:39] <simplechat> 3.9G /media 3.2g /usr 850meg /var
[12:39] <simplechat> 255mb /lib
[12:39] <cjae_> is there such thing as a email look up (phonebook) for businesses
[12:40] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: the numbers don't add up tho
[12:40] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: sudo cfdisk /dev/sda should show you how gib your partitions are
[12:40] <ferronica> Bossmanbeta: no
[12:41] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: it says its 20 gigs.
[12:41] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: so,.. maybe sda1 is only 20gig and everything is right?
[12:42] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: yeah, but what do i do with it now? its too small.
[12:42] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: do you have some space left on sda?
[12:42] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: but how can 20gb be to small for /?
[12:42] <simplechat> my home is mostly free (<15% used)
[12:42] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: because its basically 100^ full
[12:43] <user934> hi can anyone tell me what package i need to enable/install for running NTFS on ubuntu?
[12:43] <simplechat> it ran out of space for /tmp a few minutes ago
[12:43] <simplechat> ntfs-3g
[12:43] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: yeah but there has to be a reason - did you install everything from universe and multiverse?
[12:44] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: but if /tmp is full, clean it up ;) if /var is to big, clean it... my system have 5gb on / and i have 50% free...
[12:44] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: i installed bits and pieces. nothing overly large
[12:44] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: already have. now i have 50 meg free. enough to start, but not a lot
[12:44] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: but if you don't find the reason the last thing you could do would be resizing
[12:44] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: du -hs /tmp/
[12:45] <simplechat> 44K
[12:45] <mechdave> user934: try this url: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/otherosfs/ntfs-3g
[12:45] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: du -hs /var
[12:45] <simplechat> 3 gigs
[12:45] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: sudo apt-get clean
[12:45] <mechdave> user934: that is if you are running feisty!
[12:46] <simplechat> done
[12:46] <simplechat> now what?
[12:46] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: du -hs /var
[12:46] <simplechat> 302mb /var
[12:46] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: viola
[12:47] <simplechat> 53 gis /
[12:47] <simplechat> *53 gigs /
[12:47] <simplechat> sudo du -hs /
[12:47] <Stormx2> simplechat: Try /home ?
[12:47] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: is this enough space or should we go on ;)
[12:47] <simplechat> home is on another partition
[12:47] <Stormx2> Oh, nevermind
[12:47] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: need more space
[12:47] <simplechat> du says / is 53 gigs, even though its in a 20 gig partition
[12:48] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: df -h | grep sda1
[12:48] <simplechat> 18Gig/20gig 97% /
[12:49] <simplechat> */var was 300 megs, sorry, not 3g
[12:49] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: there is something terribly wrong...
[12:49] <simplechat> :(
[12:49] <simplechat> what could we do with it?
[12:49] <thewrinklyninja> well I am still unable to upgrade as the upgrader keeps crashing out, keep geting the same error and google isnt helping anyone here help?
[12:50] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: wasting 18gb on / with /home on another partition and a nearly empty tmp and var...
[12:50] <thewrinklyninja> heres my error
[12:50] <thewrinklyninja> warning: could not initiate dbus
[12:50] <thewrinklyninja> extracting '/tmp/tmpf-RZ97/gutsy.tar.gz'
[12:50] <thewrinklyninja> authenticate '/tmp/tmpf-RZ97/gutsy.tar.gz' against '/tmp/tmpf-RZ97/gutsy.tar.gz.gpg'
[12:50] <thewrinklyninja> could not send the dbus Inhibit signal: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[12:50] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: du -hs /opt
[12:50] <FallenHitokiri> thewrinklyninja: PASTE!
[12:50] <thewrinklyninja> oops
[12:50] <simplechat> 56M /opt
[12:51] <thewrinklyninja> sorry
[12:51] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: du -hs /usr
[12:51] <simplechat> 3.2G
[12:52] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: please post the complete list of sudo du -hs /*
[12:52] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: s/post/paste/
[12:52] <simplechat> here? or pastebin?
[12:52] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: pastebin
[12:53] <simplechat> http://www.pastebin.ca/735133
[12:54] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: ok?
[12:54] <zz5423> stefg: 14G /test   what is that?
[12:54] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: what is this 14gb /test?
[12:55] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: that has _nothing_ to do with a default installation...
[12:55] <namiwawa> Guys
[12:55] <namiwawa> i have installed wine
[12:55] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: ah, i was doing data recovery, and left it
[12:55] <namiwawa> but i can only see the "windows explorer"
[12:55] <simplechat> sudo rm -rf /test
[12:55] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: this would explain something....
[12:55] <simplechat> ?
[12:55] <namiwawa> i thought id see a windows interface
[12:55] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: yes
[12:55] <namiwawa> with "start" etc
[12:55] <namiwawa> anyone with ideas
[12:55] <namiwawa> on this
[12:55] <namiwawa> please
[12:55] <FallenHitokiri> nikosapi: wine = wine is not a emulator
[12:55] <mecika> join #lagg
[12:56] <FallenHitokiri> namiwawa: please visit winehq.com and learn what wine is
[12:56] <simplechat> should it take awhile to delte that much data?
[12:56] <namiwawa> FallenHitokiri, how do i get it then
[12:56] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: should not take this much tim
[12:56] <FallenHitokiri> namiwawa: please visit winehq.com and learn what wine is
[12:56] <namiwawa> FallenHitokiri, ok let me do the same
[12:57] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: ok, now its back to 22%, :) is that more resonable?
[12:57] <simplechat> 4 gigs used
[12:57] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: _yes_
[12:58] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: kk. what do i do when i fill it up again?
[12:59] <zz5423> simplechat: the question is: why did you create this /test directory?
[12:59] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: you won't get 18gb full if you don't install nearly everything. but checking /tmp, /var/log  and /var/cache/apt is always a start
[12:59] <cahe> hi
[01:00] <Colro> Is there a way to entirely disable user switching? When my screen is locked and I select 'switch user' it just crashes my computer, I'd prefer to have it disabled.
[01:00] <hollandlucas> hi
[01:01] <scrumpyGums> What's the easiest way of monitoring bandwidth usage on ubuntu?
[01:02] <tapas> scrumpyGums: gnome has a network activity tray icon
[01:02] <tapas> applet
[01:04] <simplechat> tapas: is there any way to prioritise traffic in ubuntu? ie. so i can download something, whilst still being able to browse?
[01:04] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: you mean something like qos?
[01:04] <tapas> simplechat: well, in a way, yes..
[01:04] <simplechat> yeah
[01:05] <tapas> simplechat: you can start programs with the trickle program
[01:05] <simplechat> ish
[01:05] <tapas> e.g. trickle -d 100 firefox
[01:05] <thewrinklyninja> anyone know how to start dbus?
[01:05] <simplechat> in a way?
[01:05] <tapas> this way firefox's download speed is limited to 100kbyte/s
[01:05] <simplechat> trickle?
[01:05] <tapas> yep trickle
[01:05] <FallenHitokiri> thewrinklyninja: /etc/init.d
[01:05] <simplechat> so trickle wget?
[01:06] <tapas> yep
[01:06] <tapas> it is not perfect thugh. -d 100 translates to real 130kbyte/s [ca.]
[01:06] <simplechat> tapas, but i'd still get lag when browsing, wouldn't i?
[01:06] <tapas> simplechat: try it and see how mch you have to limit the dl
[01:07] <simplechat> tapas: i only have 25kbs down, so either way
[01:07] <dromer> how can I add a 2nd hd to a system as storage? if I boot with the extra hd in it, the boot process suddenly stops right before the login prompt
[01:07] <simplechat> how much would i need to be able to browse normally?
[01:08] <Colro> Is there a way to entirely disable user switching? When my screen is locked and I select 'switch user' it just crashes my computer, I'd prefer to have it disabled.
[01:08] <dromer> I then go to the tty1 and get some error when I try something
[01:08] <tapas> simplechat: then do trickle -d 10 wget ... ;)
[01:08] <tapas> should leave you 10 kbyte/s for browsing
[01:09] <simplechat> tapas, hmmm, k :)
[01:10] <tapas> simplechat: if you ttuly want to prioritize traffic you'll have to lok into QoS
[01:10] <tapas> harder to setup though
[01:10] <FallenHitokiri> but it works
[01:10] <simplechat> tapas: is it simple?
[01:11] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: if you got how qos works no. but it takes sime time
[01:12] <RectalProlapse> bhi. this may sounds retarded, but is irc.freenode.net the same server as irc.ubuntu.org ?
[01:12] <tapas> simplechat: try to see whether trickle does enough for you though.. it works ok for me
[01:12] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: fun.
[01:12] <macsim> anybody know a good url who explain how to make working ubuntu eclipse phpeclipse and this damn dbg ?
[01:12] <simplechat> RectalProlapse: yep
[01:12] <simplechat> hmmm, k :)
[01:12] <RectalProlapse> simplechat: thx
[01:13] <ajsc> hola, que alguien me ayude, por favor
[01:13] <FallenHitokiri> macsim: install eclipse and add phpclipse to updates. or use easyeclipse
[01:13] <macsim> FallenHitokiri, dbg is included in phpeclise ?
[01:14] <simplechat> easyeclipse?
[01:14] <zhg_angel> what about Netbeans?
[01:14] <FallenHitokiri> macsim: i don't use eclipse and i don't use phpeclipse, I suggest you check their project page
[01:14] <ajsc> holaaaaaaaaa
[01:14] <FallenHitokiri> zhg_angel: big, bigger, useless, netbeans?
[01:14] <macsim> FallenHitokiri, install eclipse + phpeclipse is ok, it's just about the dbg installation under ubuntu but thx anyway
[01:15] <CH1P> FallenHitokiri: The Response for ifconfig is: SIOCSIFADDR: No Such Devce | eth0: Error while getting interface flags : no such device
[01:15] <warbler> what is the package name to get read/write access to XP?
[01:15] <macsim> CH1P, you have no eth0
[01:15] <FallenHitokiri> CH1P: modprobe the 8139 drivers
[01:15] <macsim> warbler,  ntfs-3g
[01:15] <FallenHitokiri> warbler: ntfs-3g
[01:15] <warbler> thnks all
[01:16] <zz5423> CH1P: did you find out which network card you have?   lspci -v -nn | grep Ethernet
[01:16] <CH1P> zz5423: yes RTL8139D
[01:17] <CH1P> FallenHitokiri: where can i find it
[01:17] <zz5423> CH1P: the RTL8139D is a fake realtek card
[01:17] <zz5423> CH1P: it is *not* manufactured by realtek
[01:17] <CH1P> zz5423: any way of making it work?
[01:17] <FallenHitokiri> CH1P: i have no realteks, try google
[01:17] <zz5423> CH1P: please give the pci-id
[01:18] <CH1P> CH1P: i dont get it
[01:18] <zz5423> CH1P: lspci -v -nn | grep Ethernet
[01:18] <CH1P> zz5423: i dont get it
[01:18] <zz5423> CH1P: why?
[01:19] <CH1P> zz5423: brb
[01:19] <FallenHitokiri> zz5423: is it me or was this a bit strange?
[01:19] <zz5423> FallenHitokiri: it is strange
[01:20] <namiwawa> FallenHitokiri,
[01:20] <namiwawa> FallenHitokiri, i still need help on this
[01:20] <namiwawa> the site has too much documentary
[01:21] <FallenHitokiri> namiwawa: what site? sorry i don't know what you are talking about
[01:21] <namiwawa> how do i get the windows desktop now
[01:21] <FallenHitokiri> namiwawa: install virtualbox, run it and install windows
[01:22] <Frogzoo> which is fater/more stable - virtualbox or vmware?
[01:22] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: What is virtualbox?
[01:22] <namiwawa> all i get is the Win explorer window
[01:22] <namiwawa> i am talking about ...wine
[01:22] <zz5423> FallenHitokiri: maybe CH1P is dual booting the machine, and he can only get online from windows for now
[01:22] <FallenHitokiri> Frogzoo: depending on what you want. vmware got features virtulbox can only dream of - vmware is older and more stable but in most cases VB has enough features
[01:23] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: something like vmware but free
[01:23] <FallenHitokiri> namiwawa: i have no idea what you want to do
[01:23] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: any good?
[01:23] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: i need to run windows on a box, and vmware died during install. (qemu won't run with windows)
[01:23] <FallenHitokiri> zz5423: maybe, but this morning i already asked him some questions about this device and he pasted in real time without reboot
[01:23] <namiwawa> i want to have the windows box  - u know with the "start" etc
[01:23] <namiwawa> the wine box
[01:23] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: VB is good enough for most cases
[01:24] <zz5423> FallenHitokiri: then he or she is a bit confused i guess *g*
[01:24] <namiwawa> all i see is the windows explorer window
[01:24] <FallenHitokiri> namiwawa: i repeat: read winehq to learn that you don't get this with wine and use another program or stop bugging me with the same questions i answered 5 times in different ways
[01:24] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: sudo apt-get install virtualbox?
[01:24] <Seiver`Damross> ok im kinda new to lenux boxs so what is the commandline to get the IP for the mechine?
[01:24] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: no virutalbox-ose or something like that. apt-cache search ^virtualbox
[01:24] <namiwawa> FallenHitokiri,  heheehee
[01:25] <FallenHitokiri> Seiver`Damross: ifconfig
[01:25] <Seiver`Damross> Fallen: thank you
[01:25] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: no results
[01:25] <Frogzoo> FallenHitokiri: thx, there's also qemu which is free but a bit rough round the edges
[01:25] <FallenHitokiri> Frogzoo: qemu is not my fav... qith kqemu you get some performance at least
[01:26] <Frogzoo> yep
[01:26] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: update to gutsy ;) its not in feisty, or download the deb from virtualbox.org or innotec.org whatever their page is
[01:26] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: if it works
[01:26] <zz5423> FallenHitokiri: i suspect CH1P has one of those cheap rtl8139d fakes from india (pci id 1904:2031). they do not have a realtek chip at all. they need the sc92031 driver, which is not in kernel 2.6.20. kernel 2.6.22 has it, though.
[01:26] <FallenHitokiri> Frogzoo: i prefer vmware workstation. got some features i use regulary like teams
[01:26] <CH1P> it said Ethernet Controller [1904:8139]
[01:26] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: i'm updating once its out :)
[01:27] <FallenHitokiri> zz5423: think so too, mostly on board devices
[01:27] <Seiver`Damross> so from a dry install will the server take ssh2 connections?
[01:27] <chillervalley> hi anyone familar with Gutsy gibson and compiz? its not starting with my nvidia graphics card ... if i do "compiz --replace" it shows error: "/usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format
[01:27] <CH1P> zz5423: 1904:8139
[01:27] <chillervalley> and i cant open the compiz-settings-manager
[01:27] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: don't be a girl ;) update and be a man
[01:27] <FallenHitokiri> Seiver`Damross: if openssh-server is installed yes ;)
[01:27] <_6StringKng_> how do I update to gnome 2.20?
[01:28] <FallenHitokiri> chillervalley: #ubuntu+1
[01:28] <FallenHitokiri> _6StringKng_: update to gutsy
[01:28] <_6StringKng_> ah
[01:28] <zz5423> CH1P: okay, google for that id
[01:28] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: and wait two days for the updates to finish? not likely
[01:28] <_6StringKng_> k, well I got 5 days till final, so I'll wait
[01:28] <Seiver`Damross> how do i find that out >.< *ish a noob*
[01:28] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: make a fresh install? ;)
[01:28] <FallenHitokiri> Seiver`Damross: dpkg -l | grep openssh-server
[01:29] <zz5423> CH1P: and i was right, it is not a realtek card. realtek's vendor id is 10ec. this one has 1904.
[01:29] <chillervalley> thx FallenHitokiri
[01:29] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: also about two days to download
[01:29] <simplechat> 600meg for the install disk on 25kbs == teh suck :(
[01:29] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: oO upgrade your connection
[01:29] <CH1P> zz5423: so what should i do now
[01:29] <_6StringKng_> I downloaded the release canadite, but no blank cds.. >.<
[01:29] <FallenHitokiri> _6StringKng_: upgrade via inet, just change your sources.list
[01:29] <neztiti> hi guys
[01:29] <neztiti> FATAL: Module adv717x not found.
[01:29] <FallenHitokiri> _6StringKng_: #ubuntu+1 helps you
[01:30] <_6StringKng_> ah, prefer fresh installs, lol
[01:30] <neztiti> any help for ubuntu7.10
[01:30] <FallenHitokiri> _6StringKng_: /me too, but if there are no cds... ;)
[01:30] <FallenHitokiri> neztiti: #ubuntu+1
[01:30] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: can't. best i can get here
[01:30] <_6StringKng_> true
[01:30] <zz5423> CH1P: google for that id (1904:8139) and look if there is a driver. ubuntu hasn't one for that card.
[01:30] <_6StringKng_> but I'll have some between now and then
[01:30] <FallenHitokiri> simplechat: move to another town
[01:30] <Frogzoo> _6StringKng_: the upgrade's been pretty good the last two releases, saves a lot of time
[01:30] <neztiti> FallenHitokiri:  ???
[01:30] <_6StringKng_> guess I could try it out then, why not, everythings backed up anyways
[01:31] <simplechat> FallenHitokiri: not likely :)
[01:31] <neztiti> i have ubuntu 7.10
[01:31] <FallenHitokiri> neztiti: if you ne help with 7.10 go to #ubuntu+1
[01:31] <simplechat> lol
[01:31] <_6StringKng_> I only use this laptop when I'm in bed anyways, lmao
[01:31] <neztiti> ok thanx
[01:31] <Seiver`Damross> am i in the right place for server 7.04?
[01:32] <simplechat> neztiti: whats new about it?
[01:32] <macsim> Seiver`Damross, try anyway
[01:32] <FallenHitokiri> Seiver`Damross: yea  7.04 is okay
[01:33] <Delphinus> is it possible to download a dvd iso that allows you to install ubuntu/kubuntu/server etc instead of getting each iso individually?
[01:33] <Seiver`Damross> ok when i did that command i get    un   openssh-server <none>
[01:34] <simplechat> Seiver`Damross: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:35] <Seiver`Damross> ok, i hate haveing 2 keyborads in front of me..
[01:35] <simplechat> Seiver`Damross: try four :)
[01:35] <simplechat> + 3 screens :)
[01:35] <simplechat> you loose your cursor too?
[01:35] <techbie> !sources.list
[01:35] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[01:36] <Seiver`Damross> no thanks and mine are black for my main PC and wight foe my server
[01:36] <simplechat> i'll have to go, nowish.
[01:36] <simplechat> have fun :)
[01:36] <Seiver`Damross> cya
[01:37] <CH1P> How do u open the file 8139too.c in kernel source?
[01:37] <fyrestrtr> CH1P: use any text editor.
[01:37] <FallenHitokiri> CH1P: with a editor
[01:37] <princess^> can i ask something?
[01:37] <fyrestrtr> princess^: can you?
[01:37] <princess^> :)
[01:37] <CH1P> FallenHitokiri: where can i find that file?
[01:38] <Knofi> hi
[01:38] <fyrestrtr> CH1P: why do you want to edit it?
[01:38] <princess^> if i write something in irc how can i find my logs
[01:38] <princess^> ?
[01:38] <FallenHitokiri> CH1P: maybe in your kernel source tree?
[01:38] <FallenHitokiri> princess^: depends on your client
[01:38] <CH1P> fyrestrtr: i need to add {0x1904, 0x8139, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, RTL8139 }
[01:38] <princess^> clien u mean undernet?
[01:38] <zz5423> CH1P: i found it. you need the sc92031, which is not in kernel 2.6.20 (the ubuntu kernel). newer kernel 2.6.22 has that module
[01:38] <fyrestrtr> princess^: you have to enable logging in your client; then depending on the client it will place the logs in different places.
[01:38] <Knofi> how can i type asci-code? with windows it is possible via [alt] +keypad
[01:38] <princess^> ubuntu is very difficult...
[01:39] <zz5423> CH1P: no you don't add that id to the 8139too driver, because the card ISN'T a realtek card
[01:39] <FallenHitokiri> princess^: no the application you use - xchat, irssi,....
[01:39] <princess^> xchat
[01:39] <FallenHitokiri> princess^: yeah, ubuntu is difficult because a applications doesnt log to your desktop?!
[01:39] <zz5423> CH1P: you need the sc92031 driver, which is not present in 2.6.20
[01:39] <CH1P> zz5423: oh, so i should update the kernel or wait for v7.10?
[01:39] <princess^> generally fallen
[01:39] <fyrestrtr> CH1P: you could compile the driver yourself :)
[01:39] <zz5423> CH1P: wait for 7.10 would be easier
[01:39] <princess^> ubuntu closes every window i open
[01:40] <princess^> without pressing x
[01:40] <princess^> gets me out of everything
[01:40] <CH1P> fyrestrtr: thats why i am asking where to find 8139too.c file
[01:40] <zz5423> fyrestrtr: the driver is not an external driver. so i guess it's impossible to compile it on 2.6.20 without backporting
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> CH1P: you need to compile the correct driver, not 8139too.
[01:41] <princess^> fallen do u use ubuntu for a long time?
[01:41] <zz5423> CH1P: once again, do not change the 8139too, it is the wrong driver
[01:41] <zz5423> CH1P: you need the sc92031, nothing else
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> CH1P: you could compile the new kernel from source (my way) -- or just upgrade to a release that has the driver for your card.
[01:41] <CH1P> zz523:ok ty
[01:42] <zz5423> CH1P: and don't forget to complain to that f***ing indian company that fakes realtek cards
[01:42] <CH1P> zz5423: it happens only in india ;x
[01:42] <Seiver`Damross> -i dont think it likes me... its stuck on 33% [working]
[01:44] <Bizzeh> hey, do ubuntu installers detect that windows is installed, and automaticaly set up ubuntu to dual boot?
[01:45] <Delphinus> whats the total size of the ubuntu repository please?
[01:46] <stefg> Delphinus, around 7-8 G and rising
[01:46] <Delphinus> stefg: thankyou... considering mirroring it on a local machine
[01:46] <MasterAslan> Bizzeh: yes on install grub will show the windows installation.  You do need to make sure you don't wipe out the windows install thought.  Best to resize the windows partition and use the freespace or use another drive
[01:46] <stefg> Delphinus, but that's not including sources
[01:47] <Delphinus> stefg: you wouldnt recommend it?
[01:47] <kikkertje> FallenHitokiri, sorry to bother you again, (i'm the guy with the kernel panic on feisty) my grub menu.lst looks normal, so I suppose I should reinstall my kernel, problem is, how do I start with it :$
[01:47] <Bizzeh> MasterAslan: does the ubuntu installer have a ntfs partition resizer?
[01:47] <FallenHitokiri> kikkertje, open synaptic search the last kernel and tell your system to reinstall
[01:47] <stefg> Delphinus, if you want take the hassle of keeping it up to date... why not ?
[01:47] <Delphinus> stefg: it couldn't auto update (sync itself with the national repository)
[01:47] <MasterAslan> Bizzeh: sure does gparted right in the admin menu
[01:48] <kikkertje> FallenHitokiri, tnx, didn't knew it was that simple :p
[01:48] <FallenHitokiri> stefg: where is the problem to keep it up to date? apt-mirror
[01:48] <Bizzeh> ahh, this is very good :)
[01:48] <MasterAslan> Bizzeh: if your using vista you can do it quite quickly from there also
[01:48] <Bizzeh> MasterAslan: i am using vista
[01:48] <rickyjay> hellp
[01:48] <stefg> Delphinus, sure. no problems, just bandwidth usage for stuff you probably never going to use
[01:49] <Snaury[home] > Is it just me or ubuntu servers are down?
[01:49] <cyberfin> hiya can anyone point me where I can info about formatting a mmc card in ubuntu? thnx
[01:49] <MasterAslan> Bizzeh: if you right click my computer and click manage.  You can go into the disks and resize the partition there before you even boot to ubuntu.  Then just use the guided partitioning in the ubuntu install and select 'use largest contigous freespace'
[01:49] <rickyjay> I was wondering if any of you can help me with GRUB
[01:49] <egonw> hi all, is it (theoretically) possible to limit the download speed for the Adept Updater, to say 50% of to total bandwidth?
[01:49] <Delphinus> stefg: I have unlimited traffic, and I was thinking just set it up update at 2am so when I actually need it its high speed across my network, especially if I'm using it multiple times
[01:49] <FallenHitokiri> Delphinus: if it is always the same packages you need take a look at apt-proxy
[01:49] <MasterAslan> Bizzeh: remember to ALWAYS back up any critical data before partitioning
[01:49] <Delphinus> FallenHitokiri: thankyou I'll check it out
[01:49] <stefg> Delphinus, so go ahead
[01:49] <FallenHitokiri> cyberfin: mkfs.
[01:50] <cyberfin> i thought so, just didn't have the guts to try it :P
[01:50] <Bizzeh> ty MasterAslan. and all my critical data is stored on 1 of 3 other drives... i never store anything critical with the system