 I've not actually been on IRC since about 17:00UK time yesterday, did something happen ?
[09:35] <ikonia> never mind, just found the logs in #freenode, he's moaning as his cloak was removed
[09:35] <Tm_T> aww
[09:38] <Corey> A pity, that.
[09:49] <ikonia> he just had a delayed reaction, I couldn't understand what had upset him 2 hours after I left for the evening
[09:55] <Corey> ikonia: Could you make the banning a little noiser next time? :-p
[09:55] <ikonia> I don't know what triggered the bots
[09:55] <ikonia> and a delightful message of "fuck you" has been recieved
[10:01] <Corey> So polite.
[10:16] <ikonia> ginbuntu again ban dodging
[10:16] <bazhang> argh
[10:32] <ikonia> hello necreo
[11:05] <Flannel> oh?
[11:05] <Flannel> er
[11:06] <ikonia> ^542jPz$$
[11:06] <ikonia> oops
[11:06] <mrmist> best change that password.
[11:06] <ikonia> it's actually not a password so it's fine
[11:07] <mrmist> :D
[11:07] <Flannel> Its just the hash of a password!
[11:07] <ikonia> attention log readers, you may have that if you think it's a password
[11:07] <Flannel> ikonia: Thanks, by the way, I was trying to come up with a new password, that one looks pretty secure!
[11:08] <ikonia> welcome
[11:08]  * popey hugs pwgen
[11:08] <ikonia> I can give you some more random sequences if you want
[11:08] <jussi> just a reminder, we are still looking for more things to be discussed at uds, so feel free to add stuff: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/UDS-O/Ideas
[11:16] <BlouBlou> hi, there is a guy on #ubuntu-offtopic called ikonia2, I don't think is the real one, just reporting it
[11:16] <ikonia> I see it
[11:16] <ikonia> thanks
[11:16] <BlouBlou> np
[11:16] <ikonia> I think he's the same guy I've banned before
[11:16] <Flannel> He's so sneaky that he pings you!
[11:17] <ikonia> total waste of time
[12:18] <bazhang> wonder if qfd is gurke_ et al
[12:19] <ikonia> if he asks if 11.04 is stable....then yes
[12:31] <bazhang> * [lionzw] (~quassel@<IP_ADDRESS>): lionzw  in #kubuntu , was doing the same in #ubuntu yesterday
 hello when does ubuntu stable   same exact IP as qfd
[13:19] <ikonia> what a surprise
[13:21] <ikonia> as soon as I kicked him frankwe<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu+1
[13:21] <ikonia> another use, same isp joined
[13:21] <ikonia> odds ?
[13:22] <ikonia> looking at his conversation in #fedora, it's a different guy totally
[13:22] <bazhang> yeah thats a different person
[13:24] <bazhang> we have so many bans on ginbuntu that the earlier ones seem redundant
[13:24] <ikonia> I plan to do a little house keeping later, same for jungli
[13:24] <bazhang> I've cleared most of my outstanding bans apart from one long term issue
[13:27] <knome> bazhang, what about the not-so-outstanding bans ;)
[13:28] <bazhang> knome, just one
[13:28] <knome> bazhang, didn't get the pun? ;)
[13:29] <bazhang> knome, heh yeah, long day here
[13:31] <jussi> !-isitout
[13:31] <Tm_T> !-countdown
[13:31] <Tm_T> hmm
[13:31] <knome> no problem - just don't burn out ;)
[13:32] <Tm_T> oh right, countdown is for partybot?
[13:53] <LjL> no...
 It's already out!
[13:54] <bazhang> ^ countdown
[13:54] <jussi> !countdown
[13:54] <jussi> !countdown-#ubuntu-release-party
[13:54] <jussi> ;)
[13:54] <Tm_T> ah
[14:43] <Logan_> !countdown =~ s/already out/not out yet/
[14:43] <Pici> !search countdown
[14:43] <Pici> ah
[14:44] <Pici> !countdown-#ubuntu-release-party
[14:44] <Pici> !no countdown-#ubuntu-release-party is <alias> isitout
[17:07] <ikonia> Pici: I'm sorry. but that was good
[17:07] <ikonia> 17:07 < Teeko> my bad, lemme write you a book
[17:07] <Pici> :{
[18:37] <Pici> Meh, people already trying to spread 11.04 iso links
[18:52] <popey> haha
[19:11] <Pici> !freenode
[19:56] <Pici> hrm
[19:57] <Pici> tjiggi_fo suggested DerDAS might be lars, I'm not sure.
[19:57] <maco> my brain suggested it too
[19:58] <maco> the "ask over and over even after an answer" thing
[19:58] <Pici> Behavior in -release-party isn't so pleasant either.  I suspect they'll be removed soon
[20:00] <ikonia> "my cock is in you".....pathetic
[20:00] <IdleOne> the host looks right
[20:00] <ikonia> if thats how you communicate, I suggest you find another community
[20:00] <jussi> yeah, one more and he is definately taking a break...
[20:00] <IdleOne> it's him
[20:00] <ikonia> it's just uncalled from anyone, randomly commenting like that, people have lost the ability to actually communicate
[20:01]  * Pici feels snarky, but will refrain from commenting
[20:02] <IdleOne> I PM'ed and told them the ban will be lifted when release is official.
[20:02] <ikonia> must be lars's neighbours again, I caught him in #ubuntu earlier too
[20:02] <Pici> IdleOne: when -release-party is closed?
[20:02] <ikonia> clever
[20:02] <ikonia> just quit -ot what a surprise
[20:03] <IdleOne> Pici: soon as manager announces they can rejoin
[20:03] <IdleOne> if the channel happens to be closed at that time they should have known better then to act like a troll.
[20:03] <ikonia> I'd rather it was as soon as -r-p was closed
[20:05] <jussi> everyone gets unbanned when -r-p gets closed dont they? (seem to remember that from last year)
[20:05] <IdleOne> yes
[20:05] <ikonia> yes, from the previous years
[20:06] <jussi> and for what its worth, I think IdleOne's idea is decent - most of the hype is over by the time the release is announced, and letting him back in gives him a chance to try again
[20:06] <ikonia> jussi: I don't think it's the best option the guy is being a problem in every ubuntu channel he joins, hence the list of bans
[20:06] <ikonia> just leave him out until he gets the idea that it's not worth while to continue this stupid game
[20:06] <jussi> ikonia: are we certain its him?
[20:07] <IdleOne> jussi: fits the pattern
[20:07] <ikonia> based on a number of factors I'm confident
[20:07]  * Pici hugs his OUTYET alias
[20:08] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[20:08] <ikonia> mine is /mode +b $1
[20:08] <ikonia> test it out for me ?
[20:08] <jussi> I dont know. in anycase, giving him a second chance isnt such a big thing - if its him he will get himself banned again real quick, if its not, then maybe he has learnt
[20:08] <jussi> ikonia: lol
[20:09] <ikonia> he's dodging about 10 bans at the moment, how about he's not learnt his lesson, lets not waste any more time with him ?
[20:09]  * Pici is in a conference call, shouldn't be on IRC
[20:09] <Pici> I'm running this call too, doh
[20:09] <ikonia> Pici: mute is your friend
[20:10] <Pici> ikonia: And suggesting to my coworkers that the phone wasn't on mute when they made their own snarky remark.
[20:10] <jussi> ikonia: he fits a pattern, but youve no proof its him, so yes, second chance IMHO. (but thats just me - for me its not such a huge effort to reban)
[20:10] <ikonia> jussi: have you any proof anyone is actually anyone on irc unless they come out and say "yes it's mean $x again, here to be a pain"
[20:11] <Pici> er
[20:11] <ikonia> "me"
[20:12] <jussi> ikonia: sure, youve your opinion, Ive mine - got a feeling we are gonna have to agree to be different on this one :)
[20:13] <ikonia> I think I differ on the whole "you get 9000 chances to be a pain in the ubuntu namespace" stance in general
[20:16] <ikonia> knowbody: hello there
[20:38] <ikonia> knowbody: if you don't need anything from the #ubuntu-ops channel we request you leave and come back when you do need something
[20:50] <knowbody> w- ikonia, I did I guess from your conversation your not having a good day and politeness id lost on you - please have a good day
[20:50] <rww> ... huhwat
[20:50] <Pici> what?
[20:50] <rww> ikonia: I thank you for being a magnet for all the really odd people recently so they leave the rest of us alone. You're a trooper.
[20:51] <Pici> ditto
[21:26] <ikonia> I am a
[21:27] <ikonia> damn connection
[21:27] <ikonia> I am a hero
[21:43] <MichealH> Hi
[21:43] <MichealH> I was wondering if It was okay to put a piespy in #ubuntu-release-party
[21:44] <Tm_T> can't see what harm it would do
[21:44] <Tm_T> hmm, it's not logged
[21:45] <IdleOne> I'm ok with it but I would like for IRCC member to confirm
[21:45] <MichealH> So Its a Okay, or would I need more heads nodding before i can?
[21:45] <ikonia> what's a piespy ?
[21:45] <MichealH> http://www.jibble.org/piespy/
[21:45] <maco> http://www.jibble.org/piespy/
[21:45] <MichealH> maco: Beat you! :P
[21:46] <ikonia> looks interesting
[21:46] <MichealH> Basically It creates links between people and things
[21:46] <maco> based on who talks to whom, i take it?
[21:46] <Tm_T> only issue I would see is, the channel is logged, so if someone likes to hide his activity on that channel... really makes no sense so no issues AFAICS
[21:46] <Tm_T> maco: yes
[21:46] <IdleOne> doesn't log any thing ?
[21:46] <MichealH> here is some output from a quick convosation in #omg!ubuntu!
[21:46] <MichealH> No logging
[21:46] <Tm_T> IdleOne: not publicly
[21:46] <IdleOne> go for it.
[21:46] <MichealH> This is all it does:
[21:46] <MichealH> http://michealh.tk/piespy/omg!ubuntu!/omg!ubuntu!-current.png
[21:46] <Tm_T> and I meant to say the channel isn't logged
[21:47] <MichealH> Okies :D
[21:47] <Tm_T> it isn't my day...
[21:47] <IdleOne> Tm_T: you don't go to a party to hide :)
[21:47] <MichealH> When it generates something I could give you a link :P
[21:47] <Tm_T> IdleOne: I know, that's why that objection doesn't stand
[21:48] <MichealH> There... Its a bit obvious what nick it uses :P
[21:48] <IdleOne> iirc we have 3 people keeping stats for that channel anyway. another graph won't hurt.
[21:48] <MichealH> http://michealh.tk/piespy/ubuntu-release-party/ubuntu-release-party-current.png
[21:49] <MichealH> Anyway, Thanks fro the permission :)
[21:49] <MichealH> Have a nice release party! :)
[21:49] <Tm_T> IdleOne: I agree
[21:50] <popey> http://popey.com/graphs/ubuntu-release-party-current.png
[21:50] <popey> snap!
[21:50] <ikonia> more interesting
[22:14] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu mat789 Trolling ##windows after LAcan mentioned that there was a Windows/Ubuntu flamewar going on there, and I mentioned that doing that, or trolling there, is a bad idea.
[22:20] <Flannel> Is he still doing it?
[22:25] <LjL> Flannel: only one message after my mark
[23:24] <elky> Do the guidelines state that organising the trolling of other channels within our channels is forbidden?
[23:26] <LjL> they probably should
[23:26] <LjL> we certainly didn't go easy on the archlinux trolls
[23:26] <LjL> i'm sure we're expected to be better than that
[23:26] <elky> Mhm. This might need to be made clear though.
[23:27] <LjL> yes maybe, it should be an easy decision though. it'd be pretty hypocritical of us to refuse having a rule like that, after we had freenode staff gave #archlinux ultimatums
[23:28] <elky> Indeed, although to be fair the freenode staff did it for their own rules not entirely at our insistence.
[23:29] <LjL> even in that case, without enforcing that rule ourselves we'd risk finding ourself in the opposite situation, and i'm sure we wouldn't like that
[23:29] <elky> Mhm
[23:29] <elky> I'm not disputing that at all.
[23:30] <elky> LjL, unfortunately we have to go through essentially a Change Request process to fix this :(
[23:31] <elky> LjL, if you're not at work or whatever, a mail to the council and -irc lists would be appreciated :)
[23:32] <LjL> elky: could argue that it's implicit in our being on freenode, as i believe their rules explicitly forbid channels being a trollpit
[23:33] <LjL> (although then you could argue... i know)
[23:33] <elky> LjL, yeah, discussion worth havign though
[23:34] <elky> also s/being a trollpit/used for organising harassment of other groups and people/ is more encompassing. Also redundant with the freenode policy though.
[23:36] <rww> huh, that piespy thing is neat
[23:44] <LjL> elky: mail sent
[23:44] <elky> thanks


[05:25] <cromagi> hi all
[07:33] <lordievader> Good morning.
[13:03] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[15:53] <hggdh> after today
[15:54] <hggdh> after today's updates cannot login to Unity, the account's password field is not consistently selected. Anyone seem something similar?
[16:58] <PaulW2U> hggdh: See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2262790 - you are not alone
[16:59] <hggdh> PaulW2U: thanks


[02:57] <ThienNN> Hello everyone, I have already synced full /ubuntu and /ubuntu-ports from local mirror.  How could I get synced from official ubuntu server?


[00:08] <chiluk> hey folks 6ghz wifi seems to be broken on the linux-oem-2b kernel this is appears to be related to https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/developers/Regulatory
[00:09] <chiluk> I have an Intel AX211 that works fine with 6ghz on the 5.15 kernel but breaks with the 6.0 -oemb kernel
[00:10] <chiluk> this seems to like crda and some other tools need to be packaged up and put in backports.
[00:12] <chiluk> hmm I just found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy/+source/crda/+bug/1958918 ... looks like vorlon is already looking into it?
[00:12] -ubottu:#ubuntu-kernel- Launchpad bug 1958918 in crda (Ubuntu Jammy) "dependency on crda obsolete according to Debian" [High, New]
[00:19] <chiluk> apw sounds like you did the kernel side of the work .  Do you have any thoughts here?
[00:21] <apw> chiluk, that fix ws about us installing crda to load regulatory database, when the kernel now loads it directly
[00:21] <chiluk> right... it's clearly loading something wrong.
[00:22] <chiluk> at least with the 6.0 kernel
[00:22] <chiluk> apw I know it's late for you.
[00:22] <chiluk> so we removed crda for Jammy
[00:23] <chiluk> and the kernel is supposed to be loading regulatory information directly through what mechanism?
[00:23] <chiluk> because that mechanism seems broken on 6.0
[00:23] <chiluk> ``iw reg get`` shows all the 6ghz channels as disabled.
[00:29] <chiluk> actually now that I'm booted back into 6.0.0-1007-oem it's ```sudo iw phy0 channels``` that shows all the 6ghz channels disabled.
[00:29] <chiluk> iw reg get doesn't even list them
[00:32] <chiluk> cfg80211: Loaded X.509 cert 'sforshee: 00b28ddf47aef9cea7'  I assume sforshee compiled the regdb
[00:34] <sarnold> and I'm *really* hoping we still have a way to do whatever needs doing now that he's found greener pastures
[00:47] <chiluk> lol.  I was unaware that he has left you.  At least his visage is still in channel.
[00:50] <sarnold> I wonder if that's a forgotten VM somewhere :)
[00:50] <chiluk> sssh... don't scare it away.
[00:51] <chiluk> problem exists in 5.19 sitting in jammy-proposed as well.
[00:52] <chiluk> I'll open a ticket once I have things more narrowed down.  I just wiish there was more output from the kernel about this.
[00:52] <chiluk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TpBkyrnfvT/
[00:52] <chiluk> For reference this is what I'm seeing on 5.19 and 6.0
[01:30] <andjjj23> is there by chance an issue tracking the problem with mainline builds?
[04:09] <chiluk> andjjj23: I checked bugzilla.kernel.org and didn't find anything.
[04:09] <chiluk> I did more digging and narrowed the fix to dropping early in v5.16
[04:10] <chiluk> then I found https://community.frame.work/t/kernel-5-16-6ghz-disabled-ax210/15675 which points at 698b166ed3464e1604a0e6a3e23cc1b529a5adc1
[04:10] <chiluk> which corroborates my findings even though I haven't personally verified.
[04:50] <chiluk> issue still exists with linux-stable kernels all the way up to 6.0.9, so I'll work the problem with upstream first.
[05:09] <chiluk> Opened https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216753
[05:09] -ubottu:#ubuntu-kernel- bugzilla.kernel.org bug 216753 in Networking "6e 6 ghz bands are disabled since 5.16 on intel ax211" [Normal, New]
[05:22] <andjjj23> chiluk: oh, we may be talking about different issues :) the one i'm referring to is the lack of a 6.1rc7 build on https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=M;O=D
[05:23] <andjjj23> but actually, a daily build has now showed up, so maybe the newer 6.1rcX isn't far behind
[13:26] <SvenKieske> juergh: thanks for updating the bug report (lp #1914774), much appreciated!
[13:26] -ubottu:#ubuntu-kernel- Launchpad bug 1914774 in linux-ibm-5.4 (Ubuntu Bionic) "Some derivative kernel tools packages don't depend on linux-tools-common" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1914774


[09:45] <Saz> hi
[09:45] <Saz>  well...i started working at computer store - in Africa. My boss wants to move from pirated XP/Vista to Ubuntu so that he doesnt get into trouble. The general clientele are more microsoft familiar. What i need help with is how to promote ubuntu over XP/Vista & aid them in understanding how ubuntu works without confusing them. Furthemore, how to get additional applcaitions which will spice up their experience with ubuntu
[09:47] <Saz> ny1 ?
[09:47] <elkbuntu> Saz, what part of africa?
[09:48] <elkbuntu> it's a big and broad place, and what would work in johannesburg isnt going to work in the middle of ethiopia
[09:48] <Saz> lets say South Africa
[09:48] <Saz> Johanesburg
[09:49] <elkbuntu> Saz, #ubuntu-za probably would be the best way to network, if it is actually south africa you're in.
[09:49] <Saz> ok
[09:52] <Saz> what does op help deal with ?
[09:55] <elkbuntu> bans and stuff
[09:56] <Saz> k


[00:04] <popey> jono: their audience is harsh! :)
[00:05] <jono> popey, which audience?
[00:05] <popey> the show you were just on :)
[00:05] <jono> oh I didnt see the channel
[00:05] <jono> what did they say?
[00:06] <popey> being pretty rude about you
[00:06] <jono> what did they say?
[00:06] <popey> that you avoid questions, company man, shill, that kind of thing :(
[00:06] <jono> popey, do you have a log?
[00:06] <jono> lol
[00:07] <jono> sounds like pretty spot-on feedback
[00:07] <popey> heh
[00:07] <jono> I am a total shill, use Ubuntu, and buy from Canonical
[00:07] <popey> they know you so well ;)
[00:07] <jono> occupational hazard with this line of work, some will think you are a shill
[00:07] <popey> was fun to watch btw
[00:07] <jono> :-)
[00:07] <popey> yeah, I get it a lot
[00:07] <jono> think I did an OK job with it?
[00:07] <popey> until people realise I dont actually work for canonical
[00:07] <popey> yes
[00:07] <jono> hehe
[00:07] <popey> some people on sounder had a pop at me because i work for canonical
[00:07] <popey> then sladen pointed out I dont
[00:08] <jono> haha
[00:08] <popey> kinda shut them up :)
[00:08] <jono> its all fun
[00:08] <popey> :)
[00:08] <jono> change is controvertial
[00:08] <jono> but change is also important
[00:08] <jono> :-)
[00:08] <popey> ok, i have something rocking working!
[00:08] <popey> a usb stick which contains multiple iso images
[00:08] <jono> sweet!
[00:08] <popey> so i can boot off any of them and install any release
[00:08] <popey> gonna copy the whole repo onto the stick too
[00:09] <popey> so it can do a full install whilst offline, and install drivers and crap
[00:09] <popey> happy happy
[00:09] <jono> oh nice!
[00:14] <pleia2> popey: we can start a fake canonical employees club (I get it too)
[00:14] <popey> how about a launchpad group called not-canonical ?
[00:14] <jono> pleia2, LP team!
[00:14] <popey> nice and simple
[00:14] <jono> hah
[00:14] <pleia2> haha
[00:16] <popey> https://launchpad.net/~not-canonical
[00:18] <popey> open or moderated team do you think?
[00:18] <popey> check on people as they apply
[00:18] <popey> make it nice and exclusive ;)
[00:18] <AlanBell> don't want any canoncial people sneaking in
[00:18] <AlanBell> canonical
[00:19] <popey> ok, moderated it is!
[00:19] <popey> we need a canonical logo crossed out
[00:19] <AlanBell> heh
[00:19] <pleia2> hehe
[00:23] <AlanBell> I have this http://mumble.libertus.co.uk:59125/ working with orca
[00:23] <AlanBell> or any Ubuntu application that uses speech dispatcher
[03:34] <Technoviking> popey: can I join, can I can I
[03:35] <pleia2> Technoviking: you can!
[03:47] <Technoviking> pleia2: Yay!!!
[04:50] <duanedesign> In Unity what is the name for the Ubuntu Logo on the top left that launches Dash when you click it?
[06:39] <AlanBell> the BFB duanedesign
[06:59] <nigelb> Morning!
[07:00] <AlanBell> hi nigelb
[07:00] <AlanBell> any visa yet?
[07:03] <nigelb> AlanBell: none, I have to call them in some time. Not much hope though
[07:20] <duanedesign> morning nigelb
[07:21] <nigelb> hey duanedesign
[07:24] <duanedesign> thanks AlanBell
[07:25] <duanedesign> AlanBell: i have one more you might be able to help me with
[07:26] <duanedesign> The Menu to to the right of the Me Menu. Is that still the Fast User Switcher?
[07:27] <AlanBell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses diagram at the top of this is handy
[07:28] <AlanBell> but I am not sure of the answer to that question
[07:28] <duanedesign> cool thanks
[07:32] <popey> session menu duanedesign ?
[07:47] <duanedesign> that sounds good
[08:24] <nigelb> hey dholbach
[08:25] <nigelb> hows budapest?
[08:25] <nigelb> morning dpm
[08:26] <dholbach> great - thanks
[08:29] <dpm> morning nigelb
[08:29] <dpm> hey dholbach!
[08:29] <nigelb> dpm: bah, got confused with channels :)
[08:41] <czajkowski> Aloha
[08:43] <dpm> morning czajkowski
[08:43] <dpm> no worries nigelb :)
[08:58] <jono> dpm, done
[09:01] <kim0> morning everyone
[09:02] <dpm> cool, thanks jono!
[09:02] <nigelb> morning kim0
[09:02] <kim0> nigelb: hey
[09:02] <nigelb> kim0: are you in Budapest already? :)
[09:02] <kim0> nigelb: nah :) going on Sun
[09:02] <nigelb> kim0: aha
[09:10] <AlanBell> Daviey: any idea if pad.ubuntu.com has got the 16 people/pad default restriction lifted
[09:10] <AlanBell> and is it on a beefy server?
[09:10] <AlanBell> (by which I don't mean one running Fedora+1)
[09:11] <nigelb> AlanBell: Didn't beefy lose the race?
[09:11] <AlanBell> dunno, I don't keep track
[09:12] <nigelb> I remember jono saying he was saddened that beefy lost the race :p
[09:12] <AlanBell> apparently it will be "Verne"
[09:13] <nigelb> as in jules verne?
[09:15] <jono> alright, I best get to bed, up in 6 houtd
[09:15] <jono> hours
[09:15] <jono> night all!
[09:15] <nigelb> night jono
[09:15] <jussi> nini jono
[09:16] <AlanBell> http://lxnews.org/2011/04/12/fedora-16-release-name-chosen/
[09:16] <jussi> AlanBell: awww
[09:16] <nigelb> aha
[09:26]  * dpm steps out for ~1h, bbl
[09:31] <jono> nigelb, http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/05/05/loco-directory-next-steps/
[09:31] <nigelb> jono: I thought you slept :p
[09:32] <nigelb> jono: I like the ideas :)
[09:32] <jono> going to bed now
[09:32] <jono> :-)
[11:01] <jussi> Hrm, does anyone know of an issue tracker that takes emails, makes them into an issue, and provides an interface for both the person who raised the issue to be conversed with, as well as a backstage area for the team dealing with the issue? Im thinking something like that could be useful for the various councils - CC, IRCC, FC, Techboard etc
[11:01] <jussi> Id also be interested in any other ideas that might work better?
[11:19] <czajkowski> jussi: we just create a private bug once we get the mail
[11:19] <czajkowski> working well for us
[11:22] <jussi> czajkowski: yeah, we have our own tracker also (not using LP currently), but I wonder if there is anything better.
[11:22] <czajkowski> we use LP
[12:02] <daker> jussi, you mean something like a helpdesk
[12:04] <AlanBell> jussi: osticket
[12:04] <daker> AlanBell, jussi https://github.com/rossp/django-helpdesk/
[12:06] <AlanBell> http://osticket.com/
[12:46] <nhandler> jussi: Using rt might also work a bit better for us. We could then have people simply email the rt email address
[12:47] <popey> be nice not to have lots of different solutions
[12:47] <popey> also be nice to have lp integration
[12:48] <jussi> nhandler: yeah, rt is a bit strange - perhaps osticket or helpdesk might suit us better. But I would like to have some ability to share with other councils also.
[12:48] <czajkowski> jussi: LP so
[12:49] <jussi> czajkowski: LP still doens do all of what Id like it to.
[12:49] <popey> indeed, LP isnt a ticket system
[12:49] <czajkowski> fair enough
[12:52] <nhandler> jussi: RT isnt perfect, but it does tend to work (which is why it is used so much, note that even the canonical sysadmins use it)
[12:55] <jussi> canonical sysadmins PFFFT :P : P
[13:06] <mhall119> morning
[13:10] <akgraner> installed guidebook on my phone  - that's pretty neat, read David's post on it - now to make sure I don't end up on anything other than the UDS wifi ...
[13:36] <vish> popey: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/not-canonical_aubergine.png or http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/not-canonical_aubergine_orange.png
[13:36] <popey> awesome!
[13:37] <nigelb> I personally like the first one
[13:37] <popey> done
[13:37] <popey> thanks!
[13:38] <vish> popey: for the small size : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/not-canonical_aubergine_14.png or http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/not-canonical_aubergine_orange14.png
[13:38] <nigelb> I wonder if we can add a patch to greasemonkey scripts. I mean there is no point. the people who run greasemonkey scripts probably know who is who anyway
[13:42] <popey> vish: Do you work for Canonical?
[13:42] <vish> popey: lol. nope :D
[13:42] <popey> There. That's the extensive checking done.
[13:43] <nigelb> lol
[13:59] <nigelb> AlanBell: so did the Ukites vote out the queen yet? :p
[14:01] <AlanBell> that is not *exactly* what we are voting on today
[14:01] <nigelb> heh
[14:22] <mhall119> lol
[14:34] <jcastro> https://launchpad.net/~not-canonical
[14:34] <jcastro> hahah
[14:34] <jcastro> brilliant!
[14:34] <nigelb> jcastro: heh
[14:34] <jcastro> oh, I see you guys have been talking about that already
[14:34] <nigelb> jcastro: no entry for you though :p
[14:34] <nigelb> jcastro: popey started it :p
[14:35] <popey> :)
[14:35] <popey> #blamepopey
[14:35] <nigelb> haha
[14:35] <jcastro> talk to persia
[14:35] <jcastro> I posted on nixternal's blog that he was an employee
[14:35] <jcastro> but I guess he is not
[14:35] <popey> yeah :)
[14:35] <vish> nooo! isnt it  #blamepleia2 this time ?;p
[14:35] <nigelb> jcastro: wait, what?
[14:35] <vish>  <pleia2> popey: we can start a fake canonical employees club (I get it too)
[14:35] <popey> not sure what to do about contractors
[14:36] <nigelb> jcastro: persia is confusing :p
[14:36] <vish> i guess popey just likes being blamed ;p
[14:36] <jcastro> he's being pedantic
[14:36] <AlanBell> well from time to time people could be expelled from the group
[14:37] <jcastro> dpm: you had some question about scheduling yesterday?
[14:37] <jcastro> Daviey: around?
[14:37] <popey> well, i was a contractor for canonical once
[14:37] <popey> for a short while
[14:37] <popey> but I am not now, so that's okay :)
[14:37] <popey> AlanBell: good point, I like the idea of expelling you
[14:37] <popey> uh, I mean, people
[14:37] <jcastro> annoying thing of the day: people telling others to install the "ccsm" package
[14:37] <nigelb> we're only talking about current.
[14:38] <nigelb> so, popey is allowed for now :p
[14:38] <popey> jcastro: why?
[14:38] <nigelb> what is ccsm?
[14:38] <popey> compizconfig-settings-manager
[14:38] <dpm> jcastro, yes: if I need particular sessions to be scheduled on a particular day (i.e. the translations roundtable to be scheduled before any other translations sessions), what do I need to do?
[14:38] <AlanBell> why is that annoying?
[14:38] <dpm> kim0, I think you were interested in that too ^^
[14:38] <AlanBell> apart from unity not playing nice with other bits of compiz?
[14:39] <kim0> dpm: yeah thanks
[14:39] <jcastro> AlanBell: it's not the package name, so it doesn't exist
[14:39] <AlanBell> orly?
[14:39] <jcastro> dpm: do you see "Edit" on the top of the page?
[14:39] <AlanBell> !info ccsm
[14:39] <popey> ahhh
[14:39] <vish> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[14:39] <jcastro> AlanBell: yeah, the package name is actually ^
[14:39] <popey> jcastro: get an SRU for a metapackage :)
[14:39] <dpm> jcastro, just a sec, let me have a look...
[14:40] <jcastro> nah
[14:40] <jcastro> we need to get someone to fix up simple-ccsm and adapt it for unity
[14:40] <jcastro> so that I never have to see "real" ccsm ever again
[14:40] <AlanBell> oh OK the package name is indeed the long version, then you have to wonder why the command isn't the same
[14:40] <AlanBell> compiz<tab><tab> doesn't find it
[14:41] <jcastro> yeah the binary is ccsm
[14:41] <vish> actually searching ccsm in synpatic gives the package
[14:41] <jcastro> yeah but didn't we remove synaptic yet?
[14:41] <vish> "ccsm"*
[14:42] <dpm> jcastro, yeah, I can see the edit link
[14:42] <jcastro> dpm: ok, click on that
[14:42] <jcastro> then you'll see a sidebar
[14:42] <jcastro> move the session onto that, then click "read only" to lock the page again (it's where the edit button was
[14:42] <jcastro> then go to the day you want, click edit, drag the session to where you want it from the sidebar
[14:42] <jcastro> then click read only
[14:43] <jussi> jcastro: but surely you dont expect everyone to give out the full package name... like if I said to you "install chromium" you think you would find it?
[14:43] <jcastro> basically, the sidebar is your little jumbling ground
[14:43] <vish> hmm,  searching "ccsm" in Software Center also finds it..
[14:43] <jcastro> jussi: if the answer is "sudo apt-get install ccsm" then yes, I expect it to be correct.
[14:43] <jcastro> if it's "find ccsm in your package manager" then that's fine
[14:44] <dpm> jcastro, cool, I'll do that
[14:44] <jussi> jcastro: oh, well thats different
[14:44] <jcastro> dpm: once you move it summit won't touch it
[14:44] <dpm> ok, gotcha
[14:45] <jcastro> nice, 86 results of "sudo apt-get install ccsm" in the forums that I can't fix
[14:46] <nigelb> jcastro: SELECT * FROM... ;)
[14:46] <nigelb> jcastro: Bribie IS today!
[14:46] <nigelb> *bribe
[14:51] <popey> forums suck :)
[14:51] <popey> ahem
[14:52] <jcastro> joey: ping
[14:52] <joey> jcastro: howdy
[14:52] <vish> popey: time to shut it down! ;)
[14:53]  * JFo has so much to do today it physically hurts me
[14:55]  * Pendulum hugs JFo
[14:55]  * JFo hugs Pendulum
[14:55] <JFo> thanks :)
[14:55] <Pendulum> :D
[14:55] <Pendulum> you're welcome :)
[15:03] <jcastro> nigelb: feature request
[15:03] <jcastro> nigelb: when doing event-weeks can we have the bot announce in here as well?
[15:03] <JFo> nigelb, I dare you to just say DENIED!! ;-P
[15:03] <jcastro> (for next time, forget about this week)
[15:03] <JFo> heh
[15:04] <JFo>  *JFo has changed his nick to Evil_JFo
[15:04] <JFo> j/k
[15:30] <mhall119> lol
[15:31] <jcastro> duanedesign: you're next!
[15:33] <duanedesign> thanks jorge
[15:36] <jcastro> akgraner: do you know valorie zimmermann's IRC?
[15:38] <vish> jcastro: valorie
[15:39] <jcastro> ah, ta
[15:40] <Technoviking> morning all
[15:41] <mhall119> vish: deceptive
[15:42] <vish> totally.. ;)
[15:43] <akgraner> jcastro, valorie
[15:44] <doctormo> Morning
[15:51] <Technoviking> jcastro: notice the top bar is cropped for me at http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/
[15:55] <JFo> there is a black line between the words for me
[15:59] <jono> kim0, hey
[15:59] <jono> free to chat in a few?
[15:59] <kim0> jono: howdy .. yeah sure
[15:59] <jono> kim0, will call in a few mins
[16:07] <jono> kim0, rebooting and then will call
[16:07] <kim0> sure
[16:10] <mhall119> Technoviking: grab a screenshot and file a bug
[16:11] <jono> kim0, one sec, mic problem
[16:11] <kim0> okie
[16:11] <kim0> even the invincible jono gets mic problems too :)
[16:11] <jono> lol
[16:12] <jcastro> Technoviking: file a bug on lp:summit with a screenshot
[16:12] <jcastro> Technoviking: but clean your cache first and check just in case
[16:13] <Technoviking> jcastro: will do
[16:14] <Technoviking> jcastro: maybe be something in chrome-unstable, looks fine in chrome-beta and Firefox
[16:14] <jcastro> ah I'm on stable
[16:59] <joey> jcastro: I've got a request for public panel session after the last meeting on Monday. Is there someway to do that? Just announce in the morning?
[17:00] <joey> jcastro: "working with maintainers in the Linux kernel" with actual kernel maintainers.  6pm to 7pm.  Problem is that we have some evening activities on those days
[17:00] <jcastro> yeah do it after and announce
[17:01] <jcastro> we can announce during the plenary times
[17:02] <joey> jcastro: ok. thanks. I'm only showing Wed and Thurs evening free at the moment
[17:02] <jcastro> joey: yeah, but remember different audiences
[17:02] <jcastro> people who like kernel panels likely won't care about an open house. :)
[17:03] <jono> jcastro, any idea how I stream music from Banshee with DAAP?
[17:03] <jcastro> as a server?
[17:03] <jono> yep
[17:03] <jono> I used the RB plugin before
[17:03] <jcastro> it doesn't do it natively, install "tangerine"
[17:03] <jono> I want to listen to tunes from my PS3
[17:03] <jcastro> which is like a little standalone thing
[17:03] <jcastro> yeah you want tangerine
[17:03] <jono> ok, I just run it and it works?
[17:03] <jcastro> yeah you define the dir
[17:03] <jcastro> for mucis
[17:03] <jono> unlike mediatomb
[17:03] <jono> lol
[17:04] <jcastro> er, music, and the one for videos
[17:04] <jcastro> yeah
[17:04] <AlanBell> would be good to get some more unity people along to this on the wednesday evening http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/949/detail/
[17:04] <jono> sweet
[17:04] <jono> thanks, pal
[17:04] <jcastro> I told mpt we need a system level upnp/daap/sharing thing
[17:04] <jcastro> it's dumb that it's app specific
[17:04] <jcastro> it should be desktop wide.
[17:04] <jcastro> "I have my stuff, share with devices in my house."
[17:06] <joey> thanks jcastro
[17:07] <jcastro> jono: leave a review, I haven't tried it in a while
[17:07] <jono> wow this tangerine thing provides no feedback at all
[17:07] <jcastro> I think it does
[17:07] <jcastro> I think it's a panel applet though
[17:07] <jono> oh :-/
[17:07]  * jcastro checks now
[17:08] <paultag> jcastro: http://askubuntu.com/questions/26011/are-there-any-plans-to-create-a-standard-based-on-libunity
[17:09] <paultag> jcastro: one of my buddies asked that, care to give it some love?
[17:11] <doctormo> How are you paultag?
[17:12] <paultag> doctormo: well, thanks!
[17:12] <jcastro> jono: dang, it's not an applet either
[17:12] <jcastro> I think it just runs, maybe run it in a terminal first?
[17:13] <jcastro> then set up the PS3 so you get the scrolling stuff from the app in the terminal
[17:13] <doctormo> Contextless chat! w00t
[17:13] <paultag> jcastro: pertty perrty please! :)
[17:13] <doctormo> paultag: How's projects?
[17:13] <paultag> doctormo: pretty good :) and yourself?
[17:14] <jcastro> paultag: I don't know what he wants for an answer, he accepted it and the guy who wrote it answered it
[17:14] <paultag> jcastro: he asked my opinion about it, and I figured you'd have insight
[17:14] <jcastro> paultag: I kind of follow where kamstrup leads
[17:15] <paultag> ok
[17:15] <jcastro> paultag: ask me after UDS
[17:15] <jcastro> it's on my "to talk about" list
[17:15] <paultag> jcastro: k
[17:16] <paultag> jcastro: thanks man
[17:16] <jcastro> I know that some other docks have like a common API they are working on
[17:17] <jono> jcastro, it seems to have added my songs, but can't be detected
[17:17] <jcastro> jono: it's always just worked for me.
[17:17] <jono> odd
[17:17] <jcastro> I don't have a PS3 though, I mean from ubuntu to ubuntu computer
[17:17] <jono> does it work in Natty?
[17:18] <jcastro> yeah
[17:18] <jcastro> works for me right now
[17:19] <jcastro> do you see the thing at the bottom of banshee
[17:19] <jcastro> "Shared Music"?
[17:19] <doctormo> paultag: Finally managed to get natty working, on a hp mini the center was given yeaterday. I'm very fashionably late to this party.
[17:19] <jcastro> on the bottom left
[17:19] <paultag> doctormo: wooo! :)
[17:19] <paultag> doctormo: BBL, need to run, last day of classes
[17:19] <jono> jcastro, you mean in Banshee on the same machine I run tangerine from?
[17:19] <doctormo> paultag: It's nice, but finding applications is bad design. Sure np, bye!
[17:19] <jcastro> jono: on banshee
[17:19] <jcastro> jono: it will also show up on the machien you're running it from
[17:20] <jono> right, it is still sucking in songs right now, I restarted it
[17:20] <jcastro> O_O
[17:20] <jono> it seems to load songs whenever you start it which is a bit pointless
[17:20] <jcastro> how many songs?
[17:20] <jono> erm...a few ;-)
[17:20] <jono> you have seen my music collection :-)
[17:20] <jcastro> like, a few thousand or like dozens of thousands?
[17:21] <jcastro> I have 3k songs and it's almost instant
[17:21]  * JFo has 64K songs... still using rhythmbox though
[17:22] <jcastro> jono: we need to convince someone on desktop that integrating rygel at the desktop level would be a nice win here.
[17:22] <jcastro> but so far it's been "nice idea jorge, who's gonna do it?"
[17:22] <jcastro> if you want to help me find someone to work on  that it's pretty straight forward
[17:22] <jono> jcastro, I am not sure many users need this
[17:22] <jcastro> we have all the stuff we need in the archive, just needs the glue
[17:23] <jono> it is pretty niche
[17:23] <jcastro> jono: everyone has xboxes and ps3's and wii's, you'd be surprised
[17:23] <jcastro> and we're the only OS that doesn't do it ootb
[17:23] <jono> good point
[17:23] <jcastro> even windows does upnp ootb
[17:23] <jono> propose a blueprint
[17:23] <jono> talk to the desktop team and crack some heads :-)
[17:23] <jono> jcastro, you want to talk to Jason Warner
[17:23] <jcastro> I'm not to the propose stage, I need to find someone who is willing to work
[17:24] <JFo> I'll have my music with me so we can maybe test some stuff if you want
[17:24] <jcastro> I wanted zeenix to do it but he went off and got a job. :p
[17:24] <doctormo> jcastro: What is rygel?
[17:24] <jcastro> http://live.gnome.org/Rygel
[17:24] <jono> jono@forge:~$ tangerine
[17:24] <jono> 2011-05-05 09:16:46,548 INFO Tangerine started
[17:24] <jono> 2011-05-05 09:16:46,572 INFO Server name: jono's Music
[17:24] <jono> 2011-05-05 09:16:46,724 INFO Adding songs in '/home/jono/Music'
[17:24] <jono> 2011-05-05 09:21:34,548 INFO Finished adding songs
[17:24] <jono> 2011-05-05 09:21:34,549 INFO Loaded plugin 'file'
[17:24] <jono> 2011-05-05 09:21:34,549 INFO Loaded plugin 'session'
[17:24] <jono> no servers detected, no shared thing in Banshee
[17:25] <jono> do I need to allow Avahi to share data from the machine or something?
[17:25] <jcastro> it should already do that
[17:25] <jcastro> did you shut that off explicitly at some point?
[17:26] <jono> nope
[17:26] <jono> weird
[17:26] <jcastro> :-/
[17:27] <jcastro> does it work on the same machine at least?
[17:28] <jono> how do I test the same machine?
[17:28] <jcastro> run tangerine
[17:28] <jcastro> and then run banshee on the same machine
[17:28] <jcastro> (banshee recognizes clients right away, even if they're on the same machine)
[17:29] <jcastro> jono: I got to go to lunch w/ jill, bbiab.
[17:29] <jono> jcastro, dont see it, no worries, have fun
[17:29] <jcastro> jono: basically you need to determine if it's tangerine or the network part.
[17:29] <jono> seems like the tangerine part
[17:30]  * jono installs Rhythmbox
[17:37] <doctormo> Looks interesting jcastro, I set up a upnp app to play files on an xbox.
[17:37] <doctormo> (not my xbox, I do have some standards of taste)
[17:43] <scott-work> james_w`:  ping
[19:24] <AlanBell> jcastro: any idea who set up pad.ubuntu.com?
[19:25] <jcastro> probably elmo & crew in budapest
[19:25] <jcastro> I've still heard nothing back from Daviey
[19:27] <jussi> dont worry, he is just ignoring you :P :P :P
[19:36] <mhall119> lol
[20:56] <czajkowski> jcastro: are you about?
[20:56] <jcastro> yep
[20:56] <czajkowski> jcastro: how do I add the reddit lens?
[20:57] <jcastro> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/install-unity-reddit-lens-in-ubuntu-deb.html
[20:57] <jcastro> this guy has a deb
[20:57] <jcastro> but typical warning applies
[20:58] <jcastro> ajmitch is working on the packaging, but the builders are a bit behind right now
[20:58]  * jcastro is keep to put it in extras
[21:00] <czajkowski> iok
[21:09] <james_w`> hi scott-work
[21:10] <scott-work> hi james_w` , i believe cory kontros contacted you about the ubuntustudio-dev code in launchpad
[21:10] <scott-work> james_w`: were you able to help him with an answer by chance?
[21:10] <james_w`> scott-work, I don't remember seeing that
[21:10] <scott-work> james_w`:  my apologies, i should introduce myself, i'm scott lavender, project lead for ubuntu studio
[21:10] <james_w`> scott-work, what's the problem?
[21:11] <scott-work> james_w`: it appears that the code in launchpad isn't currently owned by ubuntustudio-dev and when we branch something it gives us an incorrect source directory
[21:11] <james_w`> hmm
[21:11] <james_w`> that does ring a bell actually, but I can't remember the details
[21:12] <james_w`> scott-work, could you point me to the branch that you are referring to?
[21:12] <scott-work> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-default-settings/UbuntuStudio
[21:12] <scott-work> james_w`: the source directory ends up being "UbuntuStudio" rather than the package name and version
[21:12] <james_w`> ah
[21:13] <scott-work> james_w`: cory was also finding code owned by Ubuntu on another page as well
[21:13] <scott-work> james_w`: this one i believe:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-default-settings
[21:14] <james_w`> scott-work, it looks like it is owned by ubuntustudio-dev, so you should be able to change it
[21:17] <scott-work> james_w`:  can you help me understand the other ubuntustudio-default-settings owned by Ubuntu (the last link)?
[21:17] <james_w`> scott-work, that's the page for the package in ubuntu.
[21:18] <james_w`> I'm not sure I understand what the issue is yet
[21:18] <scott-work> james_w`: oh, it's more or less a mirror to get it into the repositories?
[21:19] <scott-work> james_w`: to be honest, i'm only peripherally involved with this particular problem but i think it might be just a misunderstanding and a slight bit of ignorance
[21:19] <james_w`> scott-work, the link you provide is to the package in the repository
[21:19] <jcastro> jono: http://uds.ubuntu.com/social-events/
[21:19] <jcastro> this has the list of sponsors and parties
[21:19] <scott-work> james_w`: once i get home (and on a ubuntu machine) i can validate my last statement ;)
[21:19] <james_w`> ok
[21:20] <scott-work> james_w`:  sorry for the trouble and thank you for your time
[21:20] <james_w`> scott-work, no problem
[21:21] <jono> jcastro, I know that - I needed to know when Cezz wants them to be thanked
[21:21] <jcastro> oh
[21:21] <jcastro> I was thinking in the intro would make sense
[21:21] <jcastro> "and we'd like to thank our sponsors ...."
[21:22] <jcastro> "Jackson Guitars, Fender Amps .... and of course, Amazon Web Services!"
[21:22] <jono> jcastro, thats what I said in the email
[21:22] <jono> so makes sense
[21:22] <jono> jcastro, quick call?
[21:22] <jcastro> yep
[21:22] <jcastro> one sec, let me turn down the METAL.
[21:22] <jono> ditto
[21:23] <jono> jcastro, will call your phone
[21:23] <jcastro> ok
[21:30] <jussi> Argh, I remember I was going to bring something to UDS for someone... but far out, cant remember what it was now...
[21:32] <czajkowski> curly wurlys :)
[21:37] <czajkowski> jcastro: http://pix.ie/czajkowski/2305378/size/800
[21:37] <czajkowski> :D
[21:38]  * jussi drools over curly wurlies
[21:38] <jussi> oh and those saltwater candies...
[21:39] <czajkowski> taffey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:39] <jussi> I will of course bring a large helping of salmiakki
[21:44] <jcastro> czajkowski: yeah! that looks awesome!
[21:45] <czajkowski> jcastro: it does and it's been RT'd now again and again
[21:48] <jcastro> jono: oh hey noticed a problem
[21:49] <jcastro> jono: the cert guys made their bps cert-o-blah
[21:49] <jcastro> which doesn't get on the schedule
[21:49] <jcastro> do you know if the cert guys are just doing normal blueprints for 11.04 or if they expect to have sessions?
[21:53] <jono> jcastro, hardware cert folks?
[21:53] <jcastro> victor's group it looks like
[21:53] <jcastro> a bunch filed by krafty, etc.
[21:53] <jcastro> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-o
[21:53] <jcastro> the ones that start with "cert-o"
[21:54] <jono> jcastro, can you mail them to get them to rename them
[21:54] <jono> >
[21:54] <jono> ?
[21:54] <jcastro> yeah, I was just wondering if you know
[21:54] <jcastro> that's Victor who would  be that guy right?
[21:54] <jcastro> or krafty? I am unsure who works for who in this case
[21:55]  * jcastro will just ping both
[21:57] <jono> jcastro, yep
[21:57] <jono> victor and krafty
[21:57] <jono> mail them both
[22:05] <jcastro> jono: before I go
[22:05] <jcastro> I want you to go here:
[22:05] <jcastro> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUIO1K0W5Ag&feature=related
[22:05] <jcastro> and go right to 2:21
[22:05] <jcastro> and then tell me the next like minute isn't the best thing ever
[22:06] <jcastro> that pick slide thing is so awesome
[22:06] <jcastro> and even I can do that!
[22:07]  * czajkowski does wonder about the two of ye at times :)
[22:07] <czajkowski> nutters
[22:08] <jcastro> you can't even tell when they switch from lead to rhythm
[22:08] <jcastro> though that's probably post-prod mixing trickery
[22:08] <jono> jcastro, so awesome
[22:08] <jcastro> I have this on HD, I watch it like once a week
[22:08] <jcastro> the entire thing
[22:09] <jono> :-)
[22:10] <jcastro> I love how dave is all concentrating to get it right
[22:10] <jcastro> and broderick isn't even looking at his fingers or the neck
[22:10] <jcastro> he's just looking at the audience since like, everything is so easy to him
[22:16] <akgraner> what's the default movie player in 11.04?  totem? or something else?
[22:16] <akgraner> I suppose that would be Banshee as well
[22:16] <akgraner> since it does video and audio
[22:17] <popey> no
[22:17] <popey> totem
[22:17] <akgraner> ok so when I search movie player in the dash and it comes up with "movie player" that's totem?  right?
[22:18] <popey> yes
[22:18] <akgraner> ahh ok..whew...
[22:18] <akgraner> double checking the directions for the DVD and I was second guessing myself...:-/
[22:18] <jono> I am so in love with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFXP-eEVVXg
[22:20] <akgraner> jono,  you are a nut job!
[22:20] <akgraner> and I mean that in the best way possible! :-p
[22:22] <jono> haha
[22:23] <jono> my fave bit is at 1.32
[22:23] <jono> so awesome :-)
[22:25] <scott-work> babies crying!!!!
[22:25] <scott-work> jono: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP3qHiLPbiE&feature=watch_response
[22:25] <scott-work> this starts a little slow but kicks in after a bit
[22:26] <scott-work> akgraner: i listened to your hpr interview with full circle :)
[22:26] <akgraner> scott-work, those guys are so cool!
[22:27] <jono> scott-work, hehe
[22:28] <akgraner> I used to get all nervous for interviews like that - but now heck  - it's a fun but I have a lot of filters otherwise who knows what I might say...and now I warn people that I'll offend someone before I am through talking...
[22:29] <akgraner> I think I used "dez nuts" in a conversation at pycon..that goodness no-one recorded that
[22:30] <akgraner> s/that/thank
[22:30] <akgraner> see I even need filters in IRC jeez...:-P
[22:30] <mhall119> lol
[22:32] <akgraner> I try so hard to be all lady like and nice...but somehow it just fails me...
[22:33] <mhall119> can't take the army out of the soldier
[22:38] <akgraner> how true that is...
[22:39] <akgraner> at least I don't utter profanity like I once did...(see I even worded that all proper like and all)
[22:45] <scott-work> akgraner: lol


[10:58] <Tm_T> guntbert: thanks for the headsup
[10:58] <guntbert> Tm_T: you're welcome :-)
[10:59] <guntbert> its easy when the only contribution of someone is "lol" :-)
[16:27] <peppe84> Hi, is possible to have an ubuntu cloak for this my irc registred account? this is my LP profile http://tinyurl.com/4veol8q
[16:31] <peppe84> tsimpson, Pici I can talk with you for this?
[16:33] <jussi> peppe84: just a moment please
[16:33] <peppe84> yep
[16:35] <jussi> Could get a staff member to cloak peppe84 with an /ubuntu/member cloak?
[16:36] <jussi> peppe84: now we wait for a freenode staffer :)
[16:41] <peppe84> yes :-)
[16:41] <Tm_T> while we wait, coffee anyone?
[16:41] <peppe84> Tm_T, sure :-D
[16:48] <tsimpson> VorTechS, marienz, mquin, tomaw: ping ^
[16:48]  * marienz is pinged
[16:48] <marienz> peppe84: can you please set a valid email address first (/msg nickserv help set email)?
[16:51] <peppe84> marienz, ops. now is ok
[16:51] <peppe84> sorry
[16:51] <marienz> you are now cloaked
[16:52] <peppe84> thanks :-)
[16:54] <DJones> Does anybody know of an IRC client preinstalled on a livecd that uses "drt" + a random number sequence as the nick by default that would join the #ubuntu-* channels by default, or would that be something the user would have to physically change, it could be an unsupported ubuntu variant, I'm putting a record of some logs together & wondered if it could be a "known" variant/version
[19:35] <rww> DJones: I've never seen that, and I've been around for a while on #ubuntu.
[19:36] <DJones> rww: Thanks, I didn't think so either, but just worth asking the question
[19:37] <rww> DJones: although after some log grepping... we've had two users in #ubuntu with that pattern of nick, and they both came from the same ISP and IP range.
[19:38] <DJones> rww: Its probably the same user, happened over the last couple of days
[19:38] <rww> indeed
[19:38] <AlanBell> popey: I spy phineas I think
[19:39] <popey> yeah, i suspected that early on
[19:39] <popey> gonna give benefit of doubt for now
[19:39] <popey> as I am bored
[19:39] <DJones> Its in his ident
[19:39] <DJones>  extra  | Phineas
[19:39] <popey> lol
[19:39] <DJones> from /whois
[19:39] <DJones> Doh!
[19:41] <popey> thanks chaps
[19:41] <popey> here we go
[19:41] <popey> someone new to irc would know to come to #ubuntu-irc when kicked from #ubuntu-uk eh Garzooka ?
[19:41] <popey> dont even bother to waste anyones time again.
[19:42] <Garzooka> guys I may use the same pc but I am not the same person, its called multiple users
[19:42] <popey> forget it
[19:42] <DJones> Garzooka: Have you developed a sister now?
[19:42] <Garzooka> well my friend told me that when in dout come here
[19:43] <rww> Any objections to a +q?
[19:43] <DJones> Feel free
[19:43] <m4v> no
[19:43] <popey> no
[19:43] <DJones> Thanks
[19:43] <rww> I think we have better things to do that go over that again :(
[19:43]  * m4v watches the rain outside
[19:44]  * popey watches Doctor Who