[18:08] <stdin> Adola: use quotes: sudo dpkg --force-all -i "/home/adam/kubxtra-8.04-7-hardy.i386(2).deb"
[18:08] <Adola> Sorry, I did.
[18:08] <DaSkreech> Adola: What are you tryng to do?
[18:08] <tacidsky> DaSkreech, I never liked it, I always install pidgin and xchat.
[18:08] <Adola> I pasted the wrong thing.
[18:08] <zer0o> DaSkreech: yes which version?
[18:08] <stdin> Adola: make sure you typed it correctly
[18:08] <Adola> I'm just rying to get Kubextra's out of here.  I can't install anything because I get an error concerning it.
[18:08] <DaSkreech> tacidsky: I think that much is obvious :) what don't you like about it?
[18:08] <stdin> Adola: maybe you missed a space
[18:08] <DaSkreech> Adola: how did you try to install it?
[18:08] <Mamarok> zer0o: I think he uses 8.10, like me
[18:09] <Adola> I first double clicked the .deb.
[18:09] <Adola> Then, that didn't work  So, I tried the dpkg way
[18:09] <Mamarok> Adola: did you change the permissions of the file?
[18:09] <zer0o> got it, so you think intrepid ibex is better than hardy? and it works better?
[18:09] <DaSkreech> Adola: Where did you get the dpkg from ?
[18:09] <Adola> www.kde-apps.org
[18:09] <DaSkreech> zer0o: Don't know about that :)
[18:09] <Mamarok> zer0o: it's not about being better, it's newer, yes, and with KDE4 which is different
[18:09] <tacidsky> I just dont like the rabs at the bottom
[18:09] <Adola> http://code.google.com/p/kubxtra/
[18:10] <raman> help
[18:10] <raman> h
[18:10] <DaSkreech> zer0o: If you like KDE3 then stay on hardy otherwise KDE4 is quite nice
[18:10] <tacidsky> tabs* and I know that you can change them, i just like xchat better
[18:10] <Mamarok> tacidsky: could you take discussions to -offtopic please? this is a support channel
[18:10] <zer0o> you're telling me is not kde4 (beta) any more but is a stable release?
[18:10] <DaSkreech> tacidsky: Tabs I assume. I don't have tabs and the channels turn up over there <-------
[18:11] <raman> more of a gnome user
[18:11] <raman> started kde one week back
[18:11] <raman> oh sorry
[18:11] <DaSkreech> zer0o: That depends on you I suppose.
[18:11] <Mamarok> zer0o: Intrepid uses currently kde 4.1.2, and if you are a beginner you shouldn't try it, but wait for Jaunty
[18:11] <DaSkreech> raman: That's great but what do you want help with?
[18:11] <raman> can anyone  help me on how to ask help
[18:12] <Mamarok> raman: be specific on what you need help for
[18:12] <Adola> I looked in .list and couldn't find kubextra
[18:12] <DaSkreech> raman: From us you just ask from a program F1 might help
[18:12] <zer0o> im not a beginner any more :D but on my hardy if i wanted to try kde4 it would be the beta version, since i havent checked about ibex i was just wondering if they finally realesed a stable version of kde4
[18:13] <zer0o> and i guess thats how it is
[18:13] <Mamarok> zer0o: KDE 4.1.2 is stable, yes, but doesn't have all the features kde 4.2 will have
[18:13] <zer0o> got it, and when is it coming out?
[18:13] <DaSkreech> zer0o: Again it depends on you. I've been using ot for a while and it works fine more my needs. Some people still have things that don't work as well for them as it did in KDE3 so it's beta for them
[18:13] <zer0o> when is it going to be realesed? du know?
[18:13] <Mamarok> kde 4.2 will be released at the end of January, and Jaunty is planned for April
[18:14] <zer0o> got it
[18:14] <DaSkreech> Though if you read the topic ... :-)
[18:15] <Adola> Nothing is working
[18:15] <zer0o> doesnt say much :D
[18:15] <Mamarok> zer0o: if you choose to use KDE 4.1.2 (4.1.3 in the backports) just don't complain but help with bug fixing
[18:15] <DaSkreech> Adola: What does kubuntu extras do?
[18:16] <Mamarok> Adola: why not try dpkg --purge yourpackage?
[18:16] <Adola> It supposedly installs things kubuntu beginers need
[18:16] <DaSkreech> zer0o: Dolphin is very different in KDE4 and KDE3
[18:16] <DaSkreech> raman_: Hi
[18:16] <Adola> Mamarok.  Could you please god walk me through that.
[18:16] <DaSkreech> Adola: I assume you tried sudo apt-get -f install
[18:16] <Adola> I'm on dial up normally.  But, today, I'm a t a friends house.  And, this ismy one chance for a while to get stuff I need.And I can't install ANYTHING untill I fix this.
[18:17] <Adola> daskreech :  no, I didn't.
[18:18] <DaSkreech> Adola: Try that
[18:18] <Mamarok> Adola: well, type sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq /pathtoyourpackage
[18:18] <Mamarok> DaSkreech: it's broken, so apt-get will not work
[18:18] <DaSkreech> ah right of course
[18:19] <DaSkreech> Adola: Do what Mamarok said
[18:19] <Adola> sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq /home/adam/kubxtra-8.04-7-hardy.i386(2).deb"
[18:19] <Adola> Is this correct?
[18:19] <Mamarok> yes, without the " at the end, unless it's in the package name
[18:19] <DaSkreech> Where did that " come from ?
[18:20] <stdin> because the name needs quoting, it has '(' and ')'
[18:20] <Mamarok> raman_: please ask in this channel, do not query!
[18:20] <stdin> and add a space between options
[18:21] <Mamarok> stdin: not with the command I gave him I'd say
[18:21] <Adola> adam@adam-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq /home/adam/kubxtra-8.04-7-hardy.i386(2).deb
[18:21] <Adola> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[18:21] <stdin> Mamarok: bash doesn't like '(' and ')'
[18:21] <Adola> This is getting depressing.
[18:21] <DaSkreech> Adola: sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq /home/adam/kubxtra-8.04-7-hardy.i386\(2\).deb
[18:21] <Mamarok> hm, rename the package?
[18:22] <stdin> well, it does like it, but for it's own purposes
[18:22] <DaSkreech> Adola: use that ^^^
[18:22] <Adola> dpkg: need an action option
[18:22] <stdin> needs --remove probably
[18:22] <DaSkreech> Adola: huh What you did you just put in?
[18:22] <Mamarok> raman_: stop querying me, aske in this channel!!!
[18:23] <DaSkreech> raman_: Just ask your question here
[18:23] <Adola> adam@adam-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq /home/adam/kubxtra-8.04-7-hardy.i386\(2\).deb
[18:23] <Mamarok> or --purge
[18:23] <DaSkreech> raman_: The more people see it the more can help. It also helps to train other people
[18:23] <Mamarok> Adola: try adding --remove after the --force-remove-reinstreq
[18:24] <Adola> dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names ofthe files they come in
[18:24] <Adola> I'm sorry you guys.  But, I am fairly new to linux and...Gah, this makes life so hard.
[18:25] <Mamarok> Adola: we will find out, don't worry, that's what we are here for :)
[18:25] <Adola> :D  Thanks.
[18:25] <stdin> ok just "sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq --remove kubxtra"
[18:25] <DaSkreech> raman_: Just ask your question here
[18:26] <Adola> Umm, can I paste the output of stdin said.
[18:26] <Adola> !pastebit
[18:26] <Adola> !pastebin
[18:27] <Adola> http://paste.ubuntu.com/85251/
[18:27] <Mamarok> hm, that looks not nice :(
[18:28] <Adola> o.O
[18:28] <Mamarok> Adola: ?
[18:29] <Adola> So...Does anyone one have any idea?!
[18:29] <Mamarok> oh, missunderstood your "o.O" for a positive exclamation, sry Adola
[18:29] <Adola> It's ok.
[18:29] <DaSkreech> Ha ha
[18:29] <Mamarok> hm, lets see what else man dpkg gives us
[18:31] <stdin> hmm, you need to edit that prerm script
[18:31] <Adola> ?
[18:31] <DaSkreech> Adola: What error do you get on installing it?
[18:31] <Adola> On installing kubextra?
[18:32] <DaSkreech> Yes
[18:32] <marc_> I'm new to Kubuntu. I've used debian previously, and have upgraded to 8.10. I believe I'm running the 32bit version, however it's picking my AMD 6000+ up as 1.8ghz. (rather than 3.1, x2 of course).  Try the generic kernel it should do a best autodetect or if you lilke the AMD kernel
[18:38] <Mamarok> marc_: why would you do this?
[18:39] <marc_> I am running the generic kernel. It's not cooperating as well as I'd have hoped, at least with the CPU
[18:39] <DaSkreech> Mamarok: He's new to Kubuntu. He was just asking if Kubuntu only offered one kernel to install
[18:39] <marc_> Mamarok: It's not picking the cpu up correctly, and in tern I have a slow system
[18:39] <marc_> turn*
[18:39] <Mamarok> marc_: maybe it's an acpi setting tuning down your CPU
[18:39] <marc_> hmm..
[18:40] <marc_> on 8.04 it detected it at 1000mhz, 8.10 detected it at 1800mhz
[18:40] <marc_> konversation's 'sysinfo' still reads, or did at last check, 1000mhz
[18:40] <Adola> :/
[18:40] <Adola> It....Still differnt work.
[18:40] <Adola> Didn't.
[18:41] <Mamarok> marc_: if some power saving settings is activated
[18:41] <DaSkreech> marc_: Konversation is on KDE3
[18:41] <marc_> ok, that explains that.
[18:41] <DaSkreech> raman_: Still need help ?
[18:41] <marc_> this is 4 now, innit?
[18:42] <DaSkreech> You can run KDE4 apps in KDE3 and KDE3 apps in KDE4
[18:42] <DaSkreech> Konversation is an example of that
[18:42] <marc_> hmm... ok i'll reboot, login to cmos and fiddle with 'power saving' settings. if that fails, where do i go to, to install a new kernel? pref. amd version
[18:43] <Adola> APT Error. Context:
[18:43] <Adola>     Package download failed,
[18:43] <Adola>     I wasn't able to locate file for the kubxtra package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.,
[18:43] <stdin> is that from "sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq --remove kubxtra" ?
[18:43] <Mamarok> marc_: you might try the AMD kernel form the repos
[18:43] <blabla> DaSkreech: do you know how? i have no backup and want to have my data back :(
[18:43] <Adola> stdin that's from me trying to install Gimp using Adept
[18:43] <marc_> ok, so using apt in terminal?
[18:44] <dsmith_> how does one arrange the desktop icons on 8.10?
[18:44] <DaSkreech> marc_: open adept and scoll down to the section that says linux
[18:44] <sourcemaker> !home entertainment
[18:44] <Mamarok> marc_: well, yes, or from a package manager like aptitude or Adept
[18:44] <stdin> Adola: then it looks like it's still installed
[18:44] <sourcemaker> !entertainment
[18:44] <DaSkreech> blabla: How did you lose the partition ?
[18:44] <sourcemaker> !myth
[18:44] <Adola> !botabuse
[18:44] <Mamarok> sourcemaker: don't abuse the bot
[18:44] <DaSkreech> !mythtv
[18:44] <Adola> It's still installed....
[18:45] <Adola> ...I really.  really need this fixed.
[18:45] <DaSkreech> Adola: We are working on it :)
[18:45] <marc_> ok i'll have a play before harassing you kind people again.
[18:45] <marc_> Thanks guys.
[18:46] <DaSkreech> sure
[18:46] <Adola> Yes, I appreciate it.
[18:47] <DaSkreech> Adola: what happens if you type sudo remove --purge kubxtra ?
[18:47] <blabla> DaSkreech: on acer aspire one suspend to disk does not work correctly and i pressed on the suspend to disk button but without intention and now there is no /dev/mmcblkp1 any more
[18:47] <joseph> is it possible to get ktorrent to stay in its own virtual desktop when loading a torrent from a website?
[18:48] <Adola> sudo: remove: command not found
[18:48] <DaSkreech> blabla: so what happened when you came out of suspend?
[18:48] <joseph> instead of stealing the focus and coming to the active virtual desktop i mean
[18:48] <DaSkreech> The computer crashed ?
[18:48] <DaSkreech> Adola: Argh sudo apt-get remove etc etc
[18:49] <Adola> E: The package kubxtra needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive forit.]
[18:49] <blabla> DaSkreech: it shut down directly(but normal shutdown), after i rebooted it /home was not mounted, because /dev/mmcblkp1 was away
[18:49] <DaSkreech> blabla: can you install and open gparted
[18:50] <DaSkreech> It should tell you the raw partitions I think
[18:50] <Adola> ...
[18:50] <Adola> Nothing.
[18:50]  * stdin becomes lost for words and horrified at that package
[18:50] <stdin> it'd EVIL
[18:51] <ASCE> hey there. what are the basic commands to install from a .tar.bz2 file. i cant remember them. i remember /make and /make install
[18:51] <Adola> Where can I find this..Is there a list that has kubxtra apended toit?
[18:51] <DaSkreech> Isn't there a way to just drop that package and rebuild the apt-database ?
[18:51] <stdin> why did this person think they had the intelligence do do this?
[18:51] <DaSkreech> ASCE: You can't install from a tar.bz2 only extract list and add to it
[18:52] <DaSkreech> stdin: Should be interesting to find out if they submitted it to kubuntu and what the comments where
[18:52] <DaSkreech> how did they test it ?
[18:52] <stdin> Adola: did the command "sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq --remove kubxtra"  work? did it say anything?
[18:52] <Adola> adam@adam-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq --remove kubxtra
[18:52] <Adola> dpkg - warning, overriding problem because --force enabled:
[18:52] <Adola>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[18:52] <stdin> DaSkreech: trust me, it wouldn't get past our QC
[18:52] <Adola>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[18:52] <Adola> (Reading database ... 161804 files and directories currently installed.)
[18:52] <Adola> Removing kubxtra ...
[18:52] <Adola> adam@adam-desktop:~$
[18:52] <blabla> DaSkreech: is there also a command line tool wich shows raw partitions? because kde crashes since there is no /home direcory
[18:53] <DaSkreech> blabla: parted but that's hard to use
[18:53] <DaSkreech> blabla: Does X work ?
[18:53] <blabla> yes
[18:54] <blabla> DaSkreech: yes, but after i login kde restarts and shows the login thing again
[18:54] <stdin> DaSkreech: the "application" runs "konsole --vt_sz 65x2 --nomenubar --notabbar --notoolbar --noframe --noscrollbar -T Install_depends_kubxtra -e sudo dpkg -E -i /opt/kubxtra/depends/(several debs here)" for a start
[18:54] <Mamarok> Adola: did it just end there, removing... and then show the prompt?
[18:54] <stdin> I'm stunned!
[18:54] <stdin> it's pure dumb
[18:54] <Adola> Yes.
[18:54] <Adola> End.
[18:55] <DaSkreech> Mamarok: Probably would. It has a exit 0 in it so no errors at all
[18:55] <giuseppe_> during boot phase it appears "Activatinf swapfile ... FAILED - What can I do?
[18:55] <blabla> DaSkreech: i think i am able to use parted
[18:55] <DaSkreech> We just said to put that in the remove script
[18:55] <Mamarok> oh, yes, forgot that one
[18:55] <Adola> Should i remove the "exit 0"?  and try again?
[18:56] <Mamarok> Adola: no, don't think it will help
[18:56] <DaSkreech> blabla: Ok well list the partitions. If you need stronger tools look at testdisk
[18:56] <DaSkreech> blabla: It's in the repos that for sure looks at raw discs and does recovery
[18:56] <Mamarok> stdin: we should tear this chap into this channel by his ears to repair the damage he did
[18:57] <Adola> Please do.
[18:57] <stdin> the more I look at this "package", the more I'm just horrified
[18:57] <Adola> Ok.
[18:57] <Adola> Progress
[18:57] <Adola> I removed the "exit 0" and got this
[18:57] <Adola> sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/info/kubxtra.postrm
[18:57] <Adola> Sorry
[18:58] <Adola> adam@adam-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq --remove kubxtra
[18:58] <Adola> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove kubxtra, only the config
[18:58] <Adola>  files of which are on the system.  Use --purge to remove them too.
[18:58] <Adola> adam@adam-desktop:~$
[18:58] <stdin> so it's removed now
[18:58] <Adola> Is it?
[18:58] <Adola> I'm not sure.
[18:59] <Adola> DEAR GOD
[18:59] <Adola> IT WORKED
[18:59] <Adola> OMG
[18:59] <stdin> "ignoring request to remove kubxtra, only the config files of which are on the system"
[18:59] <Mamarok> Adola: :)
[18:59] <Mamarok> great!!!
[18:59] <Adola> WAIT
[18:59] <otavio_> oi
[18:59] <Adola> Only one TRUE way to find out.
[18:59] <otavio_> oi pessoal
[18:59]  * Adola passes out
[18:59] <DaSkreech> !br
[19:00] <Adola> It...It seems to be working now.  No more "Blahlbahlbah, I hate you Adam and I also hate kubextra"
[19:00] <DaSkreech> what??
[19:00] <DaSkreech> It should hate kubxtra
[19:00] <Adola> Gimp is now downloading...(Which it wouldn't allow before)
[19:00] <DaSkreech> That needs fixing
[19:00] <DaSkreech> hard code it if needed
[19:01] <DaSkreech> stdin: What's the status of the "official" KDE3 for Ibex ?
[19:01] <Mamarok> we should give out a warning to all users not to touch this package
[19:01] <Adola> It worked...Thank you gusy so so so much.  I appreciate it so much
[19:01] <Mamarok> Adola: you have been very patient, thank you too :)
[19:01] <stdin> DaSkreech: it's kind of stalled at the moment, we don't have too many people volunteering to package it
[19:01] <giuseppe_> hi all, during boot phase I read this message "Activating swapfile swap [FAILED]" - What can I do to solve it?
[19:02] <DaSkreech> stdin: Raise the visibilty a little ?
[19:02] <Adola> Wow, if
[19:02] <CiRuX> hola
[19:02] <Adola> wow, if only I could donate some money ;D
[19:02] <DaSkreech> Adola: Umm. Wait you can't?
[19:02] <Adola> Thank you Mamarok, thank you Daskreech, thank you Stdin
[19:02]  * DaSkreech rescinds his help!!!
[19:03] <DaSkreech> X-D
[19:03] <Mamarok> Adola: you are welcome :)
[19:03] <stdin> DaSkreech: ask about in -devel for the latest on it.    Doing the good work by complaining!
[19:06] <Adola> ....Another super hard question....
[19:07] <Adola> On Adept..i searched AmaroK....Is "2:1.4.10" the same things as AmaroK 2?  Or is it just AmaroK 1.4?
[19:07] <stdin> I bet this person learnt some kommander script and though "oh, I'll make something kool!!!1 LOL"
[19:07] <Mamarok> Adola: no, its 1.4.10,
[19:07] <DaSkreech> Adola: 1.4.1
[19:07] <Adola> Ok.
[19:07] <DaSkreech> 10
[19:07] <blabla> DaSkreech: testdisk just detects /dev/sda but not /dev/mmc.. but parted detected the ext2 file system on /dev/mmc...
[19:07] <Adola> I have AmaroK 2.
[19:07] <Adola> I was just wondering if an update was already out.
[19:07] <Mamarok> Adola: no, it just came out last week, be patient :)
[19:08] <DaSkreech> blabla: ok but it's not in /dev ?
[19:08] <Adola> Ok!
[19:08] <DaSkreech> Adola: an update? it just came out like two days ago
[19:08] <Adola> AHAHAH, That's why I was like "WTF?"
[19:08] <DaSkreech> Or recently :-) I've been a little distracted :)
[19:08] <Mamarok> Adola: but bugfixing patches will come out soon, will be named 2.0.1 I think
[19:09] <Adola> Ok.
[19:09] <Mamarok> DaSkreech: you talk about 2.0 release, do you?
[19:09] <Adola> Do any of you use Kopete?
[19:09] <blabla> /dev/mmcblk0 is in /dev but not /dev/mmcblk0 wich was the original partition
[19:09] <DaSkreech> Mamarok: yes
[19:09] <Adola> Because, still, AmaroK 2 doesn't work with Kopete's "Now playing  for AmaroK 2" plugin.
[19:09] <Adola> What gives there?
[19:09] <blabla> /dev/mmcblk0 is in /dev but not /dev/mmcblk0p1* wich was the original partition
[19:09] <Mamarok> DaSkreech: just missread the line :)
[19:09] <DaSkreech> blabla: can you mount it and see if it is the same?
[19:10] <Mamarok> Adola: because the Kopete plugin is for Amarok 1.4. not Amarok 2
[19:10] <Adola> It says "AmaroK 2"
[19:10] <Mamarok> it uses dcop and Amarok 2 uses dbus
[19:10] <Adola> 2.x to be precise.
[19:10] <Mamarok> Adola: the script?
[19:10] <Adola> No, a default plugin with the latest version of Kopete
[19:10] <blabla> mount output is: mount: Stale NFS file handle
[19:11] <Mamarok> Adola: well, if it doesn't work you should ask the Kopete folks, not an Amarok issue
[19:11] <Ch1ppy> Hi, every time my box automounts my ipod I get a runaway kded process that takes up 100% CPU and causes all sorts of issues with KDE applications. Can anyone help me fix the issue?
[19:11] <DaSkreech> stdin: Umm Any NFS knowledge ?
[19:11]  * Mamarok uses the ~np with insanity
[19:12] <stdin> I don't use NFS, I tend to go for sshfs
[19:13] <blabla> DaSkreech: i have no idea of NFS if you meant me
[19:14] <Adola> yeah, I know.
[19:14] <DaSkreech> blabla: Yeah I think that there is just a lock but I haven't worked with NFS in a few years so I don't remember how it all works :)
[19:14] <Adola> Someone overthere said "Wait for the KDE4 release"
[19:14] <Mamarok> Adola: overthere == Kopete?
[19:15] <DaSkreech> Of what?
[19:15] <Adola> yes
[19:15] <DaSkreech> Umm
[19:15] <DaSkreech> There has been a Kopete for KDE4 since 4.0
[19:15] <Feijo> hi
[19:15] <DaSkreech> !hi
[19:16] <blabla> DaSkreech: :S do you know anyone who can help me?
[19:16] <Feijo> my kubuntu dont access internet anymore, it get ip from my Router, <IP_ADDRESS>, but dont navigate. I have virtual machines in this computer, those (win or linux) navigate! what can be wrong
[19:16] <DaSkreech> blabla: This room is a good place to ask
[19:17] <DaSkreech> You are looking to correct a stale NFS handle. I assume that your ~ is on NFS ?
[19:17] <DaSkreech> Feijo: Most likely your DNS
[19:18] <blabla> DaSkreech: sorry, what?
[19:18] <blabla> DaSkreech: what is +~?
[19:19] <DaSkreech> blabla: ~ is your home folder
[19:20] <blabla> okay sorry, i just was confused about the + before ~^^, yes it was on the destroyed partition
[19:21] <blabla> DaSkreech: i just saw that that + is because i use ircii
[19:22] <feijo> sorry, my app freezed
[19:22] <feijo> how can I check my network config// it is not working, I have no internet
[19:22] <blabla> trace
[19:24]  * Mamarok is afk
[19:25] <Guiri> Hey guys. The kubuntu live cd keeps freaking out at the last minute with my video when it tries to boot the desktop. Any safer boot options I can try?
[19:25] <Guiri> thanks in advance
[19:25] <Guiri> The VCard is the Cirrus Logic PCI that's emulated from qemu
[19:26] <Guiri> Bueller?
[19:28] <feijo> anyone/
[19:29] <DaSkreech> Guiri: There is a Safe graphics mode when you boot it up
[19:29] <DaSkreech> feijo:  Can you ping (<IP_ADDRESS> ?
[19:30] <feijo> I can ping nothing
[19:30] <feijo> I'm using a virtual machine, it works, but my main machine dont
[19:31] <DaSkreech> feijo: it works in the virtual machine but not on the host OS ?
[19:32] <blabla> DaSkreech: i just looked up what nfs is and i dont use nfs, the (sd)disk is directly connected and formated as ext2
[19:34] <feijo> DaSkreech: yes
[19:34] <DaSkreech> blabla: o_O
[19:34] <feijo> DaSkreech: another weird stuff, when I access my router IP (<IP_ADDRESS>) it show me my machine apache! so it is geting my machine, not the router
[19:34] <feijo> my hosts file is ok
[19:34] <DaSkreech> feijo: what is your IP address?
[19:34] <feijo> .2
[19:35] <feijo> using my router DNS
[19:35] <blabla> DaSkreech: :( i dont want to loose this files
[19:35] <DaSkreech> blabla: I realise
[19:35] <DaSkreech> How big is the partition ?
[19:36] <blabla> 8GB (SDHC card)
[19:36] <DaSkreech> Do you have 8GB free somewhere else ?
[19:37] <blabla> yes
[19:37] <DaSkreech> blabla: Hmm Ok
[19:37] <DaSkreech> What does sudo fdisk -l say?
[19:37] <DaSkreech> !paste
[19:37] <feijo> DaSkreech: my ip ends with .2, router ends with .1
[19:38] <feijo> hmmm, my virtual machine dont see my main machine thru IP
[19:38] <feijo> wth
[19:38] <feijo> with imagecd my main machine navigate
[19:39] <DaSkreech> feijo: Probably wouldn't unless you raise it's network level
[19:39] <feijo> it should, I have apache, everything worked fine until 2 days ago
[19:39] <DaSkreech> feijo: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> and .0.1 ?
[19:39] <feijo> DaSkreech: .1 yes, .2 no!
[19:40] <DaSkreech> feijo: Ha ha Sounds like you took your routers IP address :)
[19:41] <feijo> DaSkreech: my KNetworkManager shows me .2, thru my virtual, when I browse for .1, it open my router admin page.   He'll give those with him 666. there was a little toolshed where he made us suffer sad satan
[19:41] <feijo> my main machine network system (or whatever name it have) is broken
[19:41] <DaSkreech> feijo: ok what does sudo ifconfig -a show
[19:41] <DaSkreech> pastebin it
[19:41] <DaSkreech> blabla: Tried that command ?
[19:44] <feijo> omg, I cant pastebin !! my ctrl+c ctrl+v dont work between main and virtual machine! that sux
[19:44] <feijo> inet end.: <IP_ADDRESS> Bcas: <IP_ADDRESS> Masc: <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:44] <blabla> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/85279/
[19:44] <DaSkreech> feijo: Right YOu can't pastebin :)
[19:44] <DaSkreech> feijo: Do you have ssh setup ?
[19:44] <feijo> yes
[19:45] <DaSkreech> feijo: what do you have in the virtual machine? *nix or Windows?
[19:45] <feijo> kubuntu 8
[19:45] <feijo> I just installed it to come here in this channel lol
[19:45] <DaSkreech> ok well sudo ifconfig -a > netresults
[19:45] <DaSkreech> then you can fish:// to the main machine
[19:46] <feijo> oh, I have ssh on my main, not virtual machine
[19:46] <feijo> apt-get install openssh.server
[19:46] <feijo> /
[19:46] <feijo> ops
[19:47] <DaSkreech> feijo: Don't need it on the virtual machine
[19:47] <feijo> but my vm cant see my main, lol! I have only my eyes
[19:47] <DaSkreech> feijo: You can't ping <IP_ADDRESS> from the virtual machine ?
[19:47] <feijo> no
[19:47] <feijo> should I try change my IP//
[19:48] <DaSkreech> blabla: Yes it looks like you need testdisk
[19:48] <DaSkreech> feijo: no seems like the router is being strange
[19:48] <blabla> i already installed it... but it detects /dev/sda only
[19:48] <feijo> reset it//
[19:50] <DaSkreech> feijo: your virtual machine can go to the routers web page?
[19:50] <feijo> yes
[19:50] <DaSkreech> but your main computer cannot
[19:50] <d_mitry> woo. the upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 was successful. firefox doesn't look good, though, as expected.
[19:50] <DaSkreech> feijo: Well try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[19:51] <DaSkreech> d_mitry: Whooot
[19:51] <feijo> on the main// I already did try that
[19:51] <DaSkreech> Ah what did it do?
[19:51] <DaSkreech> blabla: what did parted list the partition as ?
[19:52] <YAOMTC> Does anyone know if any torrent client is able to download queue-style? Like, downloads one torrent at a time, when one's done start on another...?
[19:52] <feijo> DaSkreech: just one line: Reconfiguring network interfaces... [OK]
[19:52] <DaSkreech> Hmm ok that's fine
[19:52] <YAOMTC> Like what you can do with DownThemAll
[19:52] <DaSkreech> YAOMTC: kget
[19:52] <DaSkreech> feijo: And you can't see anything outside your own machine ?
[19:53] <feijo> no, not even the VMs shares
[19:53] <DaSkreech> what happens when you try to ping say mba4.org ?
[19:53] <YAOMTC> kget can do torrents? It doesn't say anything about torrents in its description, only downloads...?
[19:53] <feijo> unknow host
[19:54] <feijo> YAOMTC: no
[19:54] <DaSkreech> KDE4 :-)
[19:54] <feijo> YAOMTC: I use rtorrent on my shell
[19:54] <DaSkreech> Ktorrent has some scheduling but I don't know if that does what you want
[19:54] <feijo> DaSkreech: I use kde3
[19:54] <snarkster> why is ettercap considered dangerous to use?
[19:55] <blabla> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/85286/
[19:55] <YAOMTC> I should use ktorrent anyway, would be better than Transmission (not sure why I'm still using it)
[19:56] <DaSkreech> blabla: Ok thats good at least Why is it mounted with loop?
[19:56] <DaSkreech> blabla: can you fsck it ?
[19:57] <DaSkreech> Korrent is pretty neat. You can enable a small server that will spit up a webpage so you can login from anywhere and add a torrent and manage the ones running
[19:57] <feijo> DaSkreech: no more ideas// I'm doomed lol
[19:58] <DaSkreech> feijo: Still trying to figure out what's going on. What happens if you tracepath google.com
[19:58] <blabla> DaSkreech: it is not mounted, fsck says bas magic number in super-block... superblock unreadable / discribes no valid ext2
[19:58] <DaSkreech> blabla: Well I would surely say do a full backup of the partition
[19:59] <feijo> DaSkreech: Unknown host
[19:59] <blabla> DaSkreech: how?
[20:00] <DaSkreech> blabla: dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 of=/path/to/somewhere/that/can/hold/8GB.part.bkup
[20:01] <DaSkreech> feijo: What happenes if you ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:01] <Skulblaka> how comes Amarok doesn't support mp3? oO
[20:01] <DaSkreech> Skulblaka: Cause the engine you are using doesn't have Mp3 support
[20:01] <Skulblaka> whatever
[20:01] <feijo> anything I try to ping return instantaneouslly the Uknown host
[20:01] <Skulblaka> thanks
[20:02] <feijo> DaSkreech: or Network is unreachable
[20:02] <YAOMTC> DaSkreech: KTorrent seems to have a queue manager
[20:02] <DaSkreech> Skulblaka: try install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:02] <DaSkreech> feijo: Except <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[20:02] <Skulblaka> erm, I think i can live without, thankyou anyway
[20:03] <Ketrel> I installed Open Office 3 just now and it crashes each time I try to open it.
[20:03] <Ketrel> Anyone have any clue why?
[20:04] <snarkster> i dont understand.. u asked why it doesnt support it.. you are told what to do to make it support it and you dont care?
[20:04] <feijo> DaSkreech: .1 or .2 it thinks is localhost, any other IP, even from my VMs, it dont reach
[20:04] <DaSkreech> Ketrel: Not unil you give us a error message
[20:04] <DaSkreech> feijo: Sure you hosts file is ok?
[20:04] <Skulblaka> snarkster: I'll just download the song again, it was just a simple question
[20:04] <d_mitry> in kde4, why is there a universal taskbar for all desktops?
[20:04]  * snarkster gives DaSkreech a cup of coffee.
[20:05] <DaSkreech> feijo: what does /etc/resolv.conf say ?
[20:05] <Ketrel> DaSkreech: it doesn't GIVE me an error message
[20:05] <DaSkreech> snarkster: Tea?
[20:05] <YAOMTC> Do Transmission and KTorrent have different "temporary files"? KTorrent doesn't seem to recognize the files that Transmission made. Do I need to start over when I switch clients?
[20:05] <d_mitry> more specifically, how can i have separate taskbars for different desktops?
[20:05] <Ketrel> It just informs me that it crashed and I can recoved my documents next time I start it
[20:05] <feijo> DaSkreech: 2 lines: search feijo and nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:05] <DaSkreech> d_mitry: That's by default change it if you like
[20:05] <d_mitry> DaSkreech: where?
[20:05] <DaSkreech> Ketrel: run it from the command line
[20:06] <snarkster> my bad
[20:06]  * snarkster give DaSkreech a hot cup o tea
[20:06] <DaSkreech> feijo: ha. That explains a lot. and it thinks that you are <IP_ADDRESS> ;-)
[20:06] <Ketrel> Lemme get this so you can see it
[20:06] <DaSkreech> feijo: wait no it doesn't :-(
[20:06] <giuseppe_> during boot phase I read activating swapfile swap [FAILED] - what can I do?
[20:06] <rogan> Help please. I have upgraded to KDE4.2 beta 1 and after the update I have lost the ability to close or resize windows.
[20:07] <DaSkreech> feijo:  can't ping <IP_ADDRESS> can you?
[20:07] <feijo> DaSkreech: nameserver = dns, right//
[20:07] <DaSkreech> giuseppe_: sudo swapon
[20:07] <DaSkreech> rogan: Do you have a terminal open ?
[20:07] <DaSkreech> feijo: yes
[20:07] <feijo> cant ping
[20:07] <rogan> DaSkreech: no
[20:08] <rogan> DaSkreech: I do now
[20:08] <DaSkreech> rogan: can you move windows ?
[20:08] <rogan> DaSkreech: I cannot move windows
[20:08] <DaSkreech> rogan: try kwin --replace
[20:08] <Ketrel> DaSkreech http://pastebin.com/m5430391a <-- the assert line is when the crash happens
[20:08] <giuseppe_> DaSkreech: thisi is the output:
[20:08] <giuseppe_> usage: swapon [-hV]
[20:08] <giuseppe_>        swapon -a [-e] [-v]
[20:08] <giuseppe_>        swapon [-v] [-p priority] special|LABEL=volume_name ...
[20:08] <giuseppe_>        swapon [-s]
[20:08] <DaSkreech> giuseppe_: sudo swapon and the path to your swap partition
[20:08] <feijo> DaSkreech: I see that youre overloaded on this channel, I need to do something else... will be back shortly :)
[20:09] <rogan> DaSkreech: that worked... can you explain what that just did?
[20:09] <giuseppe_> DaSkreech: Sorry... how can I find my swap partition?
[20:09] <DaSkreech> feijo: tracepath to an IP address
[20:09] <safari4> mexico
[20:09] <DaSkreech> giuseppe_: sudo fdisk -l will list out your partitions one of them will be marked swap
[20:09] <DaSkreech> !es
[20:09] <DaSkreech> rogan: Did that work?
[20:10] <rogan> DaSkreech: that worked
[20:10] <feijo> DaSkreech: 1: send failed           Resume: pmtu 65535
[20:10] <giuseppe_> DaSkreech: now here the output: swapon: /dev/sda5: Device or resource busy
[20:10] <MrInternet> What is the line for enabling the newest amarok?
[20:10] <MrInternet> in sources.lst?
[20:10] <rogan> DaSkreech: can you explain in brief what that just did
[20:10] <DaSkreech> MrInternet: http://kubuntu.org
[20:11] <DaSkreech> rogan: started a window manager. So you could manage your windows
[20:11] <giuseppe_> DaSkreech: any idea?
[20:11] <DaSkreech> rogan: If you log out and back in now you should be good from now on
[20:11] <rogan> DaSkreech: I just closed that terminal window which created a crash
[20:11] <DaSkreech> giuseppe_: It probably enabled but just later
[20:11] <DaSkreech> rogan: I was about to say don't close the terminal :)
[20:12] <DaSkreech> rogan: open the terminal run that command then logout
[20:12] <rogan> DaSkreech: thanks
[20:12] <giuseppe_> DaSkreech: Ohh ok... can it depend by my new RAM installation? Two months ago I had 1 GB RAM!
[20:12] <DaSkreech> giuseppe_: no it shouldn't
[20:12] <DaSkreech> Swap is the Hard drive not RAM
[20:13] <giuseppe_> DaSkreech: yes I know but the swap size was defines with old RAM size...
[20:13] <DaSkreech> Ketrel: how did you install it?
[20:13] <Ketrel> DaSkreech http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[20:13] <DaSkreech> giuseppe_: Yes but that doesn't stop it being used :)
[20:14] <giuseppe_> DaSkreech: now I want to say that I see FAILED message every time I start up my notebook...
[20:14] <DaSkreech> Oh lord
[20:14] <DaSkreech> Ketrel:
[20:14] <Ketrel> Bad idea?
[20:14] <DaSkreech> Who runs those PPAs ?
[20:14] <DaSkreech> giuseppe_: Since you put in the RAM ?
[20:15] <Ketrel> DaSkreech not sure, but I will remove them , and try my method from 8.04 then
[20:15] <giuseppe_> DaSkreech: sorry?
[20:15] <DaSkreech> giuseppe_: You have been getting [FAILED] since you put in the RAM ?
[20:16] <giuseppe_> DaSkreech: well I don't know this because before installing the new RAM I had splash enabled on my distro :-S
[20:16] <DaSkreech> giuseppe_: What does the bottom line of the command "free" say ?
[20:16] <DaSkreech> giuseppe_: Ha ha :) I hate the splash
[20:16] <giuseppe_> DaSkreech: me too in fact now I disabled it :)
[20:17] <giuseppe_> DaSkreech: Swap:      1461872          0    1461872
[20:17] <giuseppe_> DaSkreech: here the bottom line!
[20:17] <DaSkreech> Ok your swap is fine it's just taking a little long to mount
[20:18] <rogan> DaSkreech: help!
[20:18] <DaSkreech> so upstart leaves it and moves on
[20:18] <DaSkreech> rogan: SOS!
[20:18] <rogan> DaSkreech: situation unresolved
[20:18] <DaSkreech> rogan: you ran kwin --replace ?
[20:18] <Ketrel> DaSkreech: its safe using the .deb from the site on 8.10 right?
[20:18] <rogan> DaSkreech: yes it works temporarily but not perm fix
[20:19] <Nalleman> is it possible to upgrade amarok in any simple way?
[20:19] <DaSkreech> Ketrel: No clue.  I have no idea who runs that ppa
[20:19] <DaSkreech> rogan: Do you have session save on?
[20:20] <DaSkreech> Nalleman: What do you mean?
[20:20] <giuseppe_> DaSkreech: ok thanks a lot for all informations... before saying hello to you I have another little question. What can I use to write some little codes to excecute repetitive operation by terminal? By bash... I mean
[20:20] <DaSkreech> !commands
[20:20] <voicu> .
[20:20] <DaSkreech> giuseppe_: ^^^^
[20:21] <Ketrel> DaSkreech: I used the .deb from the openoffice.org site on 8.04, so hopefully it also works on 8.10
[20:21] <DaSkreech> Ketrel: It does but it stays out of the way of Ubuntu
[20:22] <DaSkreech> rogan: When you logout and back in does it remember which applications you had open ?
[20:22] <rogan> DaSkreech: yes!
[20:22] <DaSkreech> rogan: Hmm
[20:22] <DaSkreech> should work then
[20:22] <DaSkreech> rogan: try kwin --replace &
[20:22] <giuseppe_> DaSkreech: ok... it's difficult to explain... I'll start using google and eventually I'll come back here... thanks a lot for all information and have a nice (day or evening I don't know :))!
[20:23] <Nalleman> DaSkreech, i would like to have the latest amarok player but I don't know the best way to install it.
[20:23] <DaSkreech> Nalleman: Do you mean amarok 2 ?
[20:23] <rogan> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/m65f0cac0
[20:23] <Nalleman> DaSkreech, yes
[20:23] <DaSkreech> Nalleman: Have you read the release notes for it?
[20:24] <Ketrel> DaSkreech: what do you mean stays out of the way? As in not integrated and uses as default? (Because I dealt with that in 8.04)
[20:24] <Nalleman> DaSkreech, no
[20:24] <DaSkreech> Ketrel: Correct
[20:24] <DaSkreech> Nalleman: Ok are you aware it's not a functional as Amarok 1.4 ?
[20:24] <rogan> DaSkreech: now my task bar is frozen
[20:24] <DaSkreech> rogan: in what way ?
[20:24] <Nalleman> DaSkreech, no
[20:24] <Ketrel> DaSkreech: I used the desktop integration (for menus) and then manually set it as the default app for opening the related files. That's all that would be needed right?
[20:25] <DaSkreech> Ketrel: yes
[20:26] <voicu> I don't get it, is k-network-manager supposed to handle the connections too or just show what's happening?
[20:26] <voicu> it doesn't seem to work by itself, just when editing connections with the gnome applet
[20:26] <DaSkreech> Nalleman: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/FAQ#Amarok_2.0_FAQ and if you still want it then http://kubuntu.org
[20:28] <rogan> DaSkreech: :( restart after system froze > still nothing
[20:29] <Ketrel> DaSkreech: same problem with the .deb
[20:29] <DaSkreech> rogan: ok when did this start happening ?
[20:29] <Ketrel> from the official site
[20:29] <rogan> DaSkreech: I just updated now updated to kde 4.2 beta
[20:29] <DaSkreech> rogan: can you alt+F2 ?
[20:30] <rogan> DaSkreech: negative
[20:30] <voicu> is anyone else having problems with knetworkmanager? i'm on intrepid and it doesn't handle wired connections, doesn't show available wireless connections, nothing
[20:30] <DaSkreech> Terminal open? :-)
[20:30] <rogan> DaSkreech: ah :)
[20:30] <DaSkreech> knetworkmanager needs love in ibex
[20:30] <voicu> OTOH it does show when a connection is activated with the gnome counterpart
[20:30] <DaSkreech> rogan: from the terminal type krunner
[20:30] <Ketrel> OMG, they STILL haven't fixed the blank TTY problem?
[20:30] <DaSkreech> in krunner type kwin
[20:31] <rogan> DaSkreech: ok I typed kwin and quickly opened something then quit
[20:31] <DaSkreech> rogan: Ha ha
[20:31] <voicu> DaSkreech: ok, i guess i'll go with that horrible looking gnome thing for now
[20:31] <DaSkreech> You think that you can move faster than the computer?
[20:32] <rogan> DaSkreech: lulz got it
[20:32] <DaSkreech> voicu: ok. Please post bugs about knetworkmanager so that your prolems can be addressed
[20:32] <jussi01> voicu: you need to go to new connection
[20:32] <Ketrel> DaSkreech: any idea why it crashes?
[20:32] <rogan> DaSkreech: Run Kwin | Desktop Effects | Windows
[20:32] <DaSkreech> rogan: Yeah I think I know what was happening. the terminal was closing before the killing of kwin so that it didn't get restored when you logged back in krunner would fix that
[20:33] <voicu> jussi01: i know how to create connection, knetworkmanager just doesn't do anything
[20:33] <DaSkreech> Ketrel: Looks like a bad Qt package for KDE 4.1.3 which I don't get as I had OO.o 3 since 4.1.0 and it worked fine
[20:33] <jussi01> voicu: ahh, ok. :)
[20:33] <rogan> DaSkreech: ! Error Could not find the program 'kwine'
[20:34] <DaSkreech> kwin
[20:34] <Ketrel> DaSkreech: wait, it's a different error this time
[20:34] <DaSkreech> ok what's the error line?
[20:34] <radlipat> ok how much ram do i need to run 8.10?
[20:34] <Ketrel> "terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno:RuntimeExeception'"
[20:34] <DaSkreech> Ok that's a OO.o error
[20:35] <rogan> DaSkreech: kruner > kwin > then If I open Kwin nothing happens
[20:35] <DaSkreech> Ketrel: #openoffice.org :)
[20:35] <DaSkreech> rogan: Can't move your windows ?
[20:35] <rogan> DaSkreech: no
[20:35] <feijo> back
[20:35] <DaSkreech> rogan: that's not cool
[20:35] <radlipat>   ok how much ram do i need to run 8.10?
[20:35] <rogan> DaSkreech: the only time I can is if kwin --replace < but thats a temp fix
[20:36] <DaSkreech> rogan: Hmm ok you did that from krunner ?
[20:36] <DaSkreech> alt+F2 should work now
[20:36] <rogan> no
[20:36] <rogan> DaSkreech: nope
[20:36] <feijo> DaSkreech: did you had other ideas/ :)
[20:36] <DaSkreech> rogan: ok well try it from in krunner
[20:37] <DaSkreech> feijo: tracepath to <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:37] <rogan> DaSkreech: try what from within krunner?
[20:37] <DaSkreech> kwin --replace
[20:38] <rogan> DaSkreech: yes that works.. just like it did in terminal
[20:38] <feijo> DaSkreech: 3 lines, mentioning feijo-home.local (that ip)  It thinks its my machine
[20:38] <rogan> DaSkreech: should I try logging out again?
[20:38] <DaSkreech> yes
[20:39] <DaSkreech> feijo: go to your router's IP in the VM and see where it gets DNS from
[20:39] <voicu> DaSkreech: I'd be happy to post a bug report but I'm not sure "no connection seems to work" is a lot of help
[20:40] <DaSkreech> voicu: state what you did what you expect to happen and what did happen and your hardware
[20:40] <feijo> dns relay active on router, is that ok
[20:40] <rogan> DaSkreech: dosent work anymore
[20:41] <feijo> DaSkreech: WAN page shows Primary DNS Address as <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:41] <DaSkreech> feijo: so it acts as it's own DNS
[20:41] <rogan> DaSkreech: after loging back in I still do not have the ability to move/resize/close windows
[20:41] <feijo> DaSkreech: yes, its a DLink 624 wifi router
[20:41] <DaSkreech> rogan: grr i could just force it to open
[20:42] <rogan> DaSkreech: this is not common after upgrading to beta1?
[20:42] <DaSkreech> feijo: do you have dhcp server installed on your computer?
[20:42] <DaSkreech> rogan: Nope.
[20:42] <feijo> DaSkreech: I dont think so
[20:43] <rogan> DaSkreech: I can live with it by just using kwin --replace every time I open a new session.. should I submit this bug report somewere?
[20:43] <rogan> DaSkreech: what do you suggest I do
[20:43] <DaSkreech> feijo: Ok sudo dhclient then
[20:43] <DaSkreech> rogan: You can use Autostart and tell it to run kwin --replace when you login
[20:44] <DaSkreech> but it really should be auto starting by itself
[20:44] <rogan> DaSkreech: yea thats like slapingd duct take on the problem
[20:44]  * DaSkreech takes his ducts
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: if it makes it work, dont knock it
[20:44] <feijo> DaSkreech: what am I looking at it show me all my connections, I have a few from vmware
[20:45] <DaSkreech> feijo: really? That's strange
[20:45] <DaSkreech> what IP address did you get?
[20:45] <rogan> DaSkreech: were should I submit this error?
[20:45] <DaSkreech> !bugs
[20:46] <feijo> DaSkreech: that command returned several times <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:46] <feijo> last linke, bound to that ip
[20:47] <feijo> "renewal in 894 seconds"
[20:47] <feijo> last *line
[20:47] <DaSkreech> feijo: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> now ?
[20:47] <feijo> //////// yes
[20:48] <feijo> WTH!!!!!!!
[20:48] <feijo> its working now
[20:48] <feijo> google back
[20:48] <radlipat>  ok how much ram do i need to run 8.10?
[20:48] <feijo> what was that/// lol
[20:49] <radlipat>  /me how much ram do i need to run 8.10?
[20:50] <voicu> is there a way too see what wireless connections are around with the gnome applet for network manager?
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> voicu: you could use sudo iwlist scan
[20:51] <DaSkreech> feijo: You picked up a rogue DHCp
[20:51] <Ketrel> DaSkreech: no luck there :\
[20:51] <feijo> DaSkreech: thanks a lot, so that dhclient solved//
[20:51] <DaSkreech> radlipat: I was running with 512 for a while
[20:51] <DaSkreech> radlipat: It's going to be a little more than KDe3 by default because a) it's not optimized and b) it's using compositing
[20:52] <DaSkreech> You can turn off compositing and get a boost but a less wobbly experience :)
[20:52] <voicu> ActionParsnip: well i guess it's better than nothing but is there something a little more integrated with the network manager?
[20:52] <radlipat> ok so ineed at least 512?
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> voicu: no idea man, i dont use gui apps for that sort of thing
[20:53] <feijo> now I have another question, I guess much easier. My keyboard stop working the keys shift, ctrl and alt
[20:53] <DaSkreech> radlipat: no you can do it with less but I would think that unless you are restricting yourself it would get painful below that
[20:53] <radlipat> DaSkreech: lol i believe im only at 256
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> radlipat: you could use xubuntu
[20:53] <radlipat> but i can go up to 320
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> radipor unofficial - fluxbuntu
[20:54] <afeijo> i'm back ... but no shift key
[20:54] <logan85> Got a question about wireless - I am using the Kubuntu DVD (live so far, haven't installed yet) and it recognized my laptops wireless card and can even find some networks. . .
[20:54] <radlipat> ActionParsnip: ok whats the link?
[20:54] <voicu> ActionParsnip: I wasn't using them either when I just had wired connections but handling so many wireless connections is annoying in a terminal
[20:54] <radlipat> im sick of 6.06
[20:55] <radlipat> and is there a shipit?
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> !xubuntu | radlipat
[20:55] <logan85> But I can not convince the thing to connect to my school network
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> logan85: if your wireless lan uses wpa you will need the wpa supplicant
[20:55] <logan85> Is there a way to em, get information about why this thing won't connect to my school network?
[20:56] <logan85> I know the network does not broadcast the SSID - no prob, plugged that in, and they use WEP - so I copy pasted the hex key
[20:56] <DaSkreech> radlipat: Ha ha I can get you to work on KDE4 with that but it's .. strange
[20:56] <DaSkreech> much more like adding what you need than stripping out what you dont'
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> logan85: then type the ssid used and then specify the wep key
[20:57] <logan85> I have done that already
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> logan85: as scanning for ssid's will not show the name
[20:57] <radlipat> DaSkreech: what is a mimic program for shockwave
[20:57] <radlipat> DaSkreech: and how can u do that?
[20:57] <DaSkreech> There is none as far as I know
[20:58] <afeijo> i lost shift, ctrl and alt keys, how to restore/
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> radlipat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[20:58] <radlipat> ActionParsnip: ty
[20:59] <radlipat> DaSkreech: so how is it strange with kde4 on 6.06?
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> !keyboard | afeijo
[20:59] <DaSkreech> radlipat: No on 8.10.  Don't know what I did different and don't really care lol. Sorry to be a bother
[21:00] <DaSkreech> !ohmy
[21:00] <radlipat> ahhh ic
[21:01] <radlipat> DaSkreech: well ok
[21:01] <afeijo> ActionParsnip: thanks, it was right on that program, but I did 2 applies and not my shift and ctrl are working
[21:01] <radlipat> so ineed to wait for my cd in mail then?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: does xev show any output?
[21:02] <afeijo> ActionParsnip: whats xev?
[21:04] <radlipat> once Xubuntu is fully installed with konsole will it whipe my hardrive?
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> !info xev
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: it shows codes for inputs
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: its a command line app
[21:05] <radlipat> ActionParsnip: once Xubuntu is fully installed with konsole will it whipe my hardrive?
[21:05] <radlipat> ActionParsnip: or will i still have skype?
[21:06] <afeijo> ActionParsnip: but I solved my problem, by going in the system config, thanks again
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> radlipat: no, as long as you dont delete it
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> radlipat: if you have skyp installed it will work in xubuntu, its the same system, just different front
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: awesome
[21:08] <snarkster> wow this is a hard finale..
[21:08] <DaSkreech> radlipat: You should be fine
[21:08] <snarkster> taking my linux 126DL final right now
[21:08] <radlipat> ActionParsnip: kewl  thank you very much ill let you know if i need anything else
[21:08] <DaSkreech> Should you be on the net while doing that ?
[21:08] <radlipat> DaSkreech: thank you too
[21:08] <snarkster> its a take home test..
[21:08] <radlipat> thats how im running it lol
[21:09] <Ketrel> DaSkreech: I'm getting no help there. Basically I'm being told, I should be using *ubuntu
[21:09] <snarkster> according to my prof, if your going to become a linux admin you have to be able to search
[21:09] <radlipat> konsole window in konversation
[21:09] <DaSkreech> Ketrel: Well pop into #ubuntu-devel and ask them if they know of that PPA and what tests were done on it
[21:10] <mohbana> how much space will kde take up on my Ubuntun install
[21:11] <DaSkreech> mohbana: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and it will tell you
[21:11] <Ketrel> DaSkreech: I'm using the deb from the open office site now, remember?
[21:11] <DaSkreech> You will use <ths much> space continue y/N ?
[21:11] <DaSkreech> Ketrel: Ah you removed the o ther one ?
[21:11] <Ketrel> yes
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> mohbana: DaSkreech is right. it will say what will be installed and ask for confirm before installing
[21:12] <mohbana> thanks.  when is the new amarok going to be released?
[21:13] <mn> hi everyone
[21:14] <radlipat> can i  get link to paste it plz
[21:14] <radlipat> so u can see whats going on
[21:14] <radlipat> i 4got it
[21:14] <Amelie1973> does anybody know ho wto make a raid in kubuntu?
[21:14] <radlipat> !pasteit
[21:14] <radlipat> nope
[21:15] <Amelie1973> :(
[21:15] <radlipat> idk how to spell it lol
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> !paste | radlipat
[21:15] <radlipat> ty
[21:15] <Ketrel> I may have a lead.
[21:16] <radlipat> ok i dont know what bottom part means
[21:16] <Ketrel> fixed
[21:16] <radlipat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/85311/
[21:16] <Ketrel> DaSkreech fixed it
[21:16] <DaSkreech> Ketrel: what was it?
[21:16] <radlipat> lines 4 through 6
[21:16] <Ketrel> I had to delete .openoffice.org from my home directory
[21:16] <DaSkreech> Um
[21:16] <Ketrel> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-121141.html <----
[21:16] <DaSkreech> you could just mv it :0
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> Ketrel: rm ~/.openoffice.org
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> Ketrel: i'd mv it first though just to test
[21:17] <Ketrel> ActionParsnip I did that already, that's how I fixed it
[21:17] <DaSkreech> Ketrel: really should just mv it :)
[21:18] <stdin> 2 hours later /me hit's the "Send" button
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> Ketrel: cool, then rm the old file
[21:18] <Ketrel> DaSkreech: was a fresh install, I had nothing to lose
[21:19] <radlipat> hello???
[21:19] <DaSkreech> Ok
[21:19] <DaSkreech> !hi
[21:19] <DaSkreech> hi blabla
[21:19] <blabla> hi
[21:19] <radlipat> ] <radlipat> ok i dont know what bottom part means
[21:19] <radlipat> [15:24] <radlipat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/85311/
[21:19] <DaSkreech> did you do the back up?
[21:19] <radlipat> ummmmmmmm no!!!!
[21:20] <radlipat> too late now me thinks
[21:20] <blabla> the sd card is very slow :( it dd has finished about 4GB now
[21:20] <radlipat> 97% done already
[21:20] <radlipat> 99%
[21:21] <radlipat> 100%
[21:21] <DaSkreech> blabla: alright
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> radlipat: fyi, dont use sudo gedit, use gksudo gedit
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> well, kdesudo kate if you are using kde
[21:21] <DaSkreech> stdin: recovery question
[21:22] <radlipat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/85312/
[21:22] <DaSkreech> If you have the time and energy
[21:22] <radlipat> plz take a look
[21:23] <radlipat> gdm and kdm are my choices
[21:24] <zanberdo> question: what happened to katapult for ibex?  I've search the repos and no go.  Was it removed?
[21:24] <TeknoGnome> is there a vnc server installed on 8.10 by default?
[21:24] <radlipat> do u know what i should choose?????????
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> !info katapult
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> zanberdo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=951983
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> zanberdo: theres nothing stopping you compiling it, making a deb and installing it
[21:28] <stdin> DaSkreech: it's 21:27, I've yet to have anything to eat, so I'll probably be a while
[21:30] <zanberdo> ActionParsnip: nope, no reason I couldn't compile it, make a deb and install.  However, seeing that krunner appears to be the alternative, I will try it.
[21:30] <radlipat> ActionParsnip: plz take a look!?!?!?!?!? http://paste.ubuntu.com/85312/
[21:30] <rniamo> hi, how can i use bluetooth under kubuntu
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> radlipat: if you are using kde, id use kdm
[21:31] <radlipat> kk ty
[21:31] <zanberdo> ActionParsnip: I suppose my question should have been: is katapult no longer included with kde 4.x and if so, what is it's replacement?  The answer I see is krunner.  I did search kde 4 and katapult but for some reason did not find the forum entry you linked.  Thank you for the feedback
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> rniamo: try kbluetooth
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> zanberdo: you got it, krunner. Its been taken out
[21:32] <rniamo> how do i have to use kbluetooth ?
[21:32] <DaSkreech> stdin: Go konsume
[21:32] <DaSkreech> zanberdo: hasn't been ported to KDE4 yet. Try krunner
[21:33] <DaSkreech> bluetooth doesn't work in ibex
[21:33] <zanberdo> krunner works for me.  I'm still not sure I like that I can't do some things with kde 4.x that I could with previous versions. For instance, the size of the panels can not be made as small as in previous versions.  And it appears to be some limits to how you can configure your panels... note: just observations
[21:33] <zanberdo> DaSkreech: yep, ActionParsnip let me know, thanks
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> zanberdo: the link i gave gives all the info you need, if you like it i'd compile it
 : bluetooth doesn't work in ibex ? it works for me under gnome ... so why not under kde ?
[21:34] <zanberdo> ActionParsnip: nope, I'm good. I will play with krunner for the time being and see if it does what I'm accustomed to katapult doing.  If not, I will compile it can play around with it more.  thank you for the offer.
[21:34] <DaSkreech> in KDE :-) You are correct. I think the Gnome packages might work
[21:35] <DaSkreech> zanberdo: how small do you want the panel?
[21:36] <zanberdo> DaSkreech: "tiny" bhy 3.5.9 standard.  Current size is more like "small" by 3.5.9 standard
[21:36] <zanberdo> DaSkreech: the reason being that I like to have two panels: one on top and one on bottom similar to gnome layout
[21:36] <DaSkreech> zanberdo: Hmm well KDE 4.2 is pretty small
[21:37] <zanberdo> DaSkreech: small yes, tiny no. :)
[21:37] <zanberdo> DaSkreech: 4.2 did you say?
[21:37] <zanberdo> hmm
[21:37] <DaSkreech> zanberdo: Topic :)
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: sneaky ;)
[21:38] <zanberdo> DaSkreech: I appear to still be running 4.1.2
[21:38] <DaSkreech> ActionParsnip: Shhhhh :-)
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> hahaha
[21:39] <DaSkreech> zanberdo: 4.2 is nice :) Beta 2 is coming out in a few days but if you like you can wait till Jan
[21:39] <DaSkreech> But it's nice :-)
[21:39] <zanberdo> DaSkreech: updaing to 4.2 b1 now
[21:39]  * DaSkreech winks at ActionParsnip
[21:40] <loganWHD> hola all
[21:40] <loganWHD> lets say i owned a movie and i wanted to make a legal dvd back up... what tool would u use in kubuntu?
[21:40]  * ActionParsnip has 4.2
[21:40] <hyper_ch> loganWHD: dd
[21:41] <jussi01> !info k9copy
[21:41] <shad0w0fsin> Hey, does anyone know why Kopete in the KDE 4.2 beta doesn't support MSN?
[21:41] <hyper_ch> shad0w0fsin: it does
[21:41] <zanberdo> loganWHD: I use dvdbackup
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> shad0w0fsin: do you mean amsn or the Microsoft network?
[21:42] <loganWHD> thank you both
[21:42] <shad0w0fsin> hyper_ch: I don't see an option to add an MSN account in Kopete
[21:42] <loganWHD> which is better
[21:42] <zanberdo> loganWHD: is a cli app that preserves the dvd menu structure and all files
[21:42] <shad0w0fsin> ActionParsnip: i meant the Microsoft network
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> !best | loganWHD
[21:42] <loganWHD> oh sorry
[21:42] <hyper_ch> shad0w0fsin: you're right... use amsn then
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> shad0w0fsin: like hotmail do you mean?
[21:43] <loganWHD> i need to make some copies of some movies for back up... but never did it in kubuntu
[21:43] <hyper_ch> loganWHD: dd will make a 1:1 copy
[21:43] <zanberdo> loganWHD: dd will permit you to make a bit-for-bit backup into a single file such as an ISO.  dvdbackup will "rip" the dvd and create the VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS file structure, along with the associated files.
[21:43] <loganWHD> dd is dvdbackup?
[21:43] <zanberdo> loganWHD: of course, dvdbackup is not used to burn a new disc
[21:43] <shad0w0fsin> ActionParsnip: No I meant the instant messaging protocol
[21:44] <DaSkreech> shad0w0fsin: The Debian packages got held up They should be back shortly
[21:44] <hyper_ch> shad0w0fsin: seems it's not supported yet in 4.2... any reason you don't like aMSN?
[21:44] <radlipat>  please take a look at this... http://paste.ubuntu.com/85311/ ... i dont know what the bottom part means
[21:44] <shad0w0fsin> hyper_ch: Yeah I'll just use aMSN or emesene for now, I was just wondering if it was a bug at my end or not
[21:45] <hyper_ch> shad0w0fsin: kopete supports now QQ :)
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> shad0w0fsin: amsn or pidgin support msn protocol
[21:46] <loganWHD> k9 looks awesome
[21:46] <loganWHD> thank yo
[21:46] <loganWHD> u
[21:47] <radlipat> please take a look at this... http://paste.ubuntu.com/85311/ ... i dont know what the bottom part means
[21:48] <DaSkreech> hyper_ch: Again
[21:48] <hyper_ch> DaSkreech: ???
[21:48] <DaSkreech> Supporting qq
[21:49] <hyper_ch> DaSkreech: it did before?
[21:49] <DaSkreech> In KDE3 I think
[21:49] <hyper_ch> DaSkreech: :) didn't see that then... used Eve
[21:50] <DaSkreech> Who's eve?
[21:51] <hyper_ch> DaSkreech: rather "what" than "who"
[21:51] <DaSkreech> :-)
[21:51] <hyper_ch> eva - QQ IM protocol compatible client in KDE
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> radlipat: its there for you, run kdesudo kate /etc/mozpluggerrc
[21:52] <hyper_ch> eva, not eve :)
[21:52] <DaSkreech> ok
[21:52] <hyper_ch> but it's basically the same
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> radlipat: and copy / paste the lines to the end of the file
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> radlipat: its in plain english
[21:53] <radlipat> kk ill try in a few gotta wait for xubuntu
[21:53] <radlipat> to finish installing
[22:01] <peabody> how do I set it so that sub directories take the properties of the base directory?
[22:01] <DaSkreech> peabody: Hmm?
[22:01] <peabody> I thought it was with the group sticky bit but I guess I was wrong
[22:01] <peabody> liek I have a directory /usr/share
[22:01] <peabody> and it's 755 share:users
[22:02] <peabody> if a sub directory is created/usr/share/this
[22:02] <peabody> this is owned by share:users witth the permissions 755
[22:03] <mn> hi
[22:03] <mn> i need nelp
[22:03] <mn> help
[22:03] <Amelie1973> can't install the adobeflash player in kubuntu 8.04
[22:04] <peabody> Amelie1973: did you try installing it in adept?
[22:04] <Amelie1973> yes
[22:04] <Amelie1973> i tried from there, and from the terminal
[22:05] <Amelie1973> and doesn't work
[22:05] <peabody> what's the problem?
[22:05] <Amelie1973> also, I downloaded the .deb file, and executed it, and when i try to watch youtube
[22:05] <Amelie1973> or other websites, it still saying the flashplayer plugin is required
[22:07] <peabody> are you blocking javascript?
[22:07] <Amelie1973> i don't think so
[22:07] <Amelie1973> how do i know is enable or not?
[22:09] <radlipat> ok my xubuntu in done installing what do i do?
[22:09] <Amelie1973> ok, i've already check the firefox preferences
[22:10] <Amelie1973> and it says "enable java script" and is selected
[22:10] <peabody> are you using any type of blocking software?
[22:10] <Amelie1973> no!
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> back
[22:10] <Amelie1973> i just installed the kubuntu 8.04 OS
[22:11] <peabody> try this website: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/
[22:11] <radlipat> ok action so what should i do now to get xubuntu desktop to show?
[22:11] <radlipat> restart computer?
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> radlipat: in kdm, change session type to xfce
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> radlipat: log off and change to xfce
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> radlipat: then log back on
[22:12] <radlipat> im in kdm mode i think
[22:12] <radlipat> thats what i chose b4 right
[22:12] <mouser-> radlipat: are you at the login screen?
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> radlipat: at the logon screen, look at the bottom right, you'll see session]
[22:13] <radlipat> ok
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> radlipat: click that and change it to xfce
[22:13] <radlipat> its not there
[22:14] <radlipat> wtf?
[22:16] <Amelie1973> doesnt work :(
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> radlipat: install the xubuntu-desktop package. Next time you login, you can choose Xfce4 from the Session menu on the login screen.  Thats from http://www.xubuntu.org/get
[22:18] <radlipat> kk ty
[22:20] <delilaz> Hi all, Right now I'm using kubuntu dapper-drake but am thinking of switching to hardy-heron, and was wondering if any external HD is compatible with either of the two systems???
[22:27] <loganWHD> hrmmmmm k9copy keeps crashing... not the best i guess
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> loganWHD: run it from terminal and you'll get intelligent output
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> loganWHD: so you can see whats up
[22:28] <ShaunR> delilaz: what do you mean by compatible?
[22:28] <blabla> DaSkreech: dd finished
[22:28] <loganWHD> well it runs
[22:28] <loganWHD> but soon as i try to load a dvd it crashes
[22:29] <rogan> hey DaSkreech
[22:30] <kaminix> When converting my Flac-songs to mp3, all my japanese and swedish tags go lost somehow. Is there any good/easy/quick way to restore them? I used the perl script pacpl for converting.
[22:30] <delilaz> ShaunR: compatible meaning that kubuntu will recongnize it as an external hd and no problems mounting it
[22:30] <Dr_willis_AAO> Every externa;l USBhard dr4ive has worked for me...
[22:30] <triggerhapp> Tried in #kde, couldnt get a staright answer, KDE launches KMail compose message whenever i plug in my power cable (laptop, so its often) any ideas why?
[22:30] <blabla> DaSkreech: i have a backup now
[22:30] <DaSkreech> Hi
[22:30] <Dr_willis_AAO> depending on what you want to do with it. You may want to tweak how it mounts
[22:30] <DaSkreech> rogan: Sup?
[22:30] <ShaunR> yeah, delilaz: generally, usb externals tend to be the same usually
[22:31] <DaSkreech> stdin: around ?
[22:31] <ShaunR> its usually notices it regardless of what make, etc.
[22:31] <rogan> DaSkreech: problem submite but I have run into a few more.. perhaps I need to reinstall?
[22:31] <ShaunR> just like it notices any generic HDD (internal)
[22:31] <rogan> DaSkreech: widget problems too
[22:32] <delilaz> Thanks much ShaunR :)
[22:32] <delilaz> Thank you too Dr_willis_AAO
[22:32] <ShaunR> delilaz: yw
[22:32] <rogan> DaSkreech: ex. To add a widget freezes up my entire system now and am forced to reboot
[22:32] <DaSkreech> rogan: ugh
[22:33] <DaSkreech> blabla: ok it's the same size as the partition
[22:33] <rogan> DaSkreech:  :(
[22:33] <rogan> ... /writs
[22:35] <blabla> DaSkreech: its about 8GB
[22:35] <DaSkreech> rogan: whats the list of problems?
[22:36] <rogan> DaSkreech:  as you know kwin and now adding a widget will freeze the system
[22:36] <DaSkreech> blabla: See if you can mount that :)
[22:37] <DaSkreech> rogan: Sounds like a driver issue
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> rogan: you could try renaming ~/.kde and restarting. you'll lose all kde settings but you'll get stock settings which may work, as you've renamed, you can rename back
[22:37] <blabla> DaSkreech: mount: Stale NFS file handle
[22:37] <blabla> :(
[22:39] <blabla> DaSkreech: sudo mount /media/sdb1/mmcblk0backup.bkup /media/disk
[22:39] <blabla> DaSkreech: mount: Stale NFS file handle
[22:39] <DaSkreech> blabla: Hmm That's fairly bad.
[22:41] <keres> DaSkreech: is there a program out there that can write bootable DVDs for kubuntu?
[22:41] <moth_> uhm, hi ^^  I'm all new to Linux and stuff, I downloaded Kubuntu yesterday and now I'm trying to figure it out. But I seem to have trouble installing things, like VLC or Mozilla Firefox because it just doesn't want to install anything..! Can anyone help me? :)
[22:42] <DaSkreech> keres: Any program that burns DVD
[22:48] <blabla> DaSkreech: everything lost? :(
[22:49] <zanberdo> question: when creating a new panel and adding widgets, how can I make them stay in the position I place them on the panel?  At present, I have a panel at the top of the screen that I'd like to have my clock and other items which are currently in the main/bottom panel.  When I add items to the panel, they all shift to the left...
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> moth_: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install vlc firefox
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> moth_: linux is case sensitive
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> moth_: is that working?
[22:57] <DaSkreech> blabla: I don't think so but I don't know
[23:03] <rogan> How do I reinstall the packages for kde 4.2 beta 1
[23:06] <zeth_> how do I make konqueror web browser window open sligtly larger and not 640x480 ?
[23:06] <rogan> DaSkreech: how do I go about reinstalling?
[23:06] <stefanjrklb> Does anyone know why when I am connecting my mouse into USB in computer (notebook) my mouse isn't working ??
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> rogan: sudo apt-get --reinstall install kde-nightly
[23:07] <rogan> ActionParsnip thats not correct
[23:07] <rogan> ActionParsnip to reinstall kde4.2. beta1
[23:08] <rogan> E: Couldn't find package kde-nightly
[23:08] <DaSkreech> ActionParsnip: It's kubuntu-desktop
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> rogan: well change the package to whatever package installed it
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: for kde 4.2?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> stefanjrklb: sudo modprobe usbmouse may work
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> stefanjrklb: try this http://www.mepis.org/node/185
[23:10] <rogan> ActionParsnip DaSkreech: so sudo apt-get --reinstall..........
[23:10] <DaSkreech> yeah
[23:10] <zeth_> how do I make konqueror web browser window open sligtly larger and not 640x480 ?
[23:10] <rogan> kubuntu desktop?
[23:11] <blabla> DaSkreech: can i use testdisk the backup? i just called testdisk /media/sdb1/mmcblk0backup.bkup and now testdisk asks me to select the partition table type
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> rogan: kubuntu-desktop will install kde 4.1
[23:11] <rogan> so I cant reinstall 4.2 beta?
[23:12] <zeth_> how do I make konqueror web browser window open sligtly larger and not 640x480 ?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> rogan: yes, try kde-nightly-kdebase
[23:12] <|DS|> whats the default root password?
[23:12] <dr_willis> There is none
[23:13] <dr_willis> Your first initial user has sudo rights.. use sudo
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> !root | |DS|
[23:13] <|DS|> lol
[23:13] <rogan> ActionParsnip E: Invalid operation kde-nightly-kdebase
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> |DS|: forget about root, use sudo / kdesudo
[23:13] <|DS|> I do :P
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> |DS|: then you have as much power as root
[23:14] <|DS|> my friend said to try root because I'm getting an error with my current account
[23:14] <stefanjrklb> My mouse still doesny working :/
[23:14] <zeth_> KDE 4.2 is pretty awsome! but definitely not as smooth as my Ubuntu-compiz experience
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> zeth_: dont you mean gnome + compiz ;)
[23:14] <zeth_>  ActionParsnip: right you are :)
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> rogan: i'd run dpkg -l | less and see what looks likely
[23:15] <rogan> How do I reinstall kde4.2 beta?
[23:15] <zeth_> umm ... I just did compiz --replace and all my window borders are gone now
[23:15] <|DS|> I've had that :/
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> zeth_: you need some options in your xorg.conf
[23:16] <zeth_>  ActionParsnip: what? really?
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> zeth_: http://pastebin.com/f2fa0edfd
[23:16] <rogan> ActionParsnip ok what good does that do me
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> zeth_: line 75 + 76
[23:17] <zeth_>  ActionParsnip: is there a way to undo compiz --replace?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> rogan: that shows you whats installed, you can peruse to see if anything jogs your memory
[23:17] <dr_willis> kwin --replace
[23:17] <zeth_> thanks
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> rogan: http://hehe2.net/linux-general/try-kde-42-now-in-ubuntu/
[23:17] <DaSkreech> blabla: yes
[23:18] <zeth_> now where is the xorg.conf file again?
[23:18] <shad0w0fsin> does anyone know how to fix the graphical glitches I experience in KDE 4.1 Intrepid when using OpenOffice?
[23:19] <zeth_> ActionParsnip: where is the xorg.conf file located again?
[23:19] <denis> !de
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> zeth_: kdesdo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:21] <zeth_> bash: kdesdo: command not found
[23:22] <zeth_> I think you meant kdesudo ... :)
[23:22] <captainbraille> Hi, I have a quick question, I'm not sure how to do something... I logged into my Yahoo.com email and told Kwallet I didn't want it to remember the password, but now I want it to remember the password and the pop-up won't come back up. How do I "reset" it so it will?
[23:23] <keres> while burning an ISO, i get the error ' Error while burning: the disk could not be mounted (max attempts reached).
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> zeth_: typo
[23:23] <keres> what does this mean?
[23:23] <zeth_> ok ... now do i need to resart X before trying emerald again?
[23:23] <keres> what does that mean? i am using brasero
[23:23] <DaSkreech> rogan: Worked?
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> keres: try burning slower maybe
[23:24] <keres> ActionParnsip: i burned it as slow as it could go
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> keres: try another app
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> !burning | keres
[23:26] <keres> should i turn verify written data and simulate on?
[23:26] <keres> when burning an iso at 4x?
[23:26] <keres> and what should i set the writing mode to?
[23:26] <blabla> DaSkreech: testdisk asks me for the partition table type(intel, efi gpt, Mac, none, Sun, XBox) wich should i select?
[23:27] <keres> DaSkreech?
[23:27] <rogan> ActionParsnip DaSkreech: unresolved ... action the link you provided ended up giving me more errors
[23:28] <rogan> ActionParsnip DaSkreech: the recent upgrade is resulting in more and more problems.. I have never had any problems with ubuntu before
[23:31] <triggerhapp> Tried in #kde, couldnt get a staright answer, KDE launches KMail compose message whenever i plug in my power cable (laptop, so its often) any ideas why?
[23:31] <DaSkreech> blabla: intel
[23:32] <DaSkreech> keres: None of that makes a diference to theactual burning
[23:32] <keres> DaSkreech: does k3b eject on success?
[23:32] <DaSkreech> rogan: ok how afraid are you of terminal ?
[23:32] <DaSkreech> keres: If you set that in the optins
[23:32] <keres> ok
[23:33] <keres> DaSkreech: is there a program that can tell if a DVD is bootable?
[23:33] <DaSkreech> A BIOS :-D
[23:34] <rogan> DaSkreech not at all
[23:35] <rogan> here is the latest error http://pastebin.com/m5749a42e
[23:35] <DaSkreech> rogan: What video card do you have ?
[23:36] <keres> DaSkreech: still wouldn't boot
[23:37] <DaSkreech> keres: what are you burning?
[23:37] <keres> DaSkreech: can i PM you?
[23:37] <rogan> DaSkreech eh that would be lspci correct?
[23:37] <DaSkreech> Sure
[23:38] <rogan> DaSkreech intel GM965/GL960 it looks like
[23:38] <DaSkreech> rogan: sudo lshw -C video
[23:39] <rogan> DaSkreech http://pastebin.com/md599a19
[23:45] <rogan> DaSkreech ..
[23:46] <DaSkreech> I guess that should be alright
[23:46] <DaSkreech> rogan: OK jump to a TTY and run sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 && mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_beta
[23:47] <rogan> DaSkreech ey?
[23:48] <JediatNight> hi all , do you know where to get libdvdcss2 ?
[23:49] <JediatNight> I'm trying to play dvd's in VLC
[23:49] <crimsun> JediatNight: see medibuntu
[23:50] <JediatNight> I'm there already. Thanks crimsun
[23:50] <rogan> DaSkreech http://i37.tinypic.com/xprlah.jpg
[23:50] <rogan> DaSkreech yes?
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> !dvd | JediatNight
[23:53] <lovre> i cant seem to find any BOA constructor tutorials. Are there any other GUI tools for python out there? Sorry for offtopic....:Ž(
[23:53] <JediatNight> Thanks ActionParsnip
[23:54] <blabla> DaSkreech: thanks for your help, i havent got my data back but i have to go to bed now...
[23:55] <DaSkreech> blabla: ok keep that file it has all your data
[23:55] <ImLiz> hello room, I have my hd partitioned in two and was wondering if the Hardy-Heron install will give me the option to install it over the dapper-drake partition???
[23:55] <DaSkreech> rogan: yes
[23:56] <dr_willis> ImLiz,  you want to totally remove the old install?
[23:56] <DaSkreech> ImLiz: Sure if you lilke
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> ImLiz: you can upgrade using the cd but you'll need to upgrade one release at a time
[23:57] <ImLiz> ActionParsnip: so I'll have to download every previous version until hardy-heron?
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | ImLiz
[23:59] <ImLiz> ok I'll take a look at that, thanks all