[14:03] <b14d3> Hi. I'm back. I'm not really sure what happened, but I rebooted and now it appears to be working just fine. In the future, I'll look at the .xsession-errors file and try and figure it out. This is really weird.
[14:03] <bgardner> b14d3: No problem, let us know if you need help
[14:06] <bugtraq> hola
[14:14] <phillyj> has anyone tried to use okidata laser printers in linux? In the market, and just learned of this brand
[14:19] <turbodark> #hello
[14:28] <SteveBell> bgardner: sorry to bother again. I tried ejecting the drive then re-formatting to ext4 resulting in the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5764834/
[14:28] <Esokrates> hi, when i change a boot parameter in /etc/default/grub is it necessary to run update-initramfs -u too?
[14:30] <bgardner> SteveBell: What was the command that you issued that resulted in that error message?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> esperegu: no, just run:  sudo update-grub
[14:32] <SteveBell> bgardner: no command. I used the disk-utility and clicked format drive
[14:32] <Esokrates> ActionParsnip, "no, just run:  sudo update-grub" sounded as it would have been an answer to my question ... did you write the wrong name by mistake?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Esokrates: yes, it answers you. You don't have to run update-initramfs, you simply need to run:  sudo update-grub
[14:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Esokrates: It is :) Usually only an app or process that needs an updated initrd will do it itself.
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Esokrates: your question was 'do I need to run update-initramfs' was it not?
[14:34] <GreatEmerald> Is there a way to change/hide the "Ubuntu Desktop" string that you see in the Unity panel when no program is open? This is with 12.04
[14:34] <Esokrates> ActionParsnip, yeah, i asked if it does sth. when i run it after sudo update-grub
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> Esokrates: i replied 'no' as in 'its not needed'..
[14:34] <Esokrates> ActionParsnip: okay thanks, because i have read it very often
[14:34] <jeevanus> hai, my entire system crashed
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> Esokrates: it doesn't hurt to run it, just doesn't change anything :)
[14:34] <bgardner> SteveBell: I'd suggest doing it (mke2fs) at the command line and checking the results from there.
[14:35] <jeevanus> how to get data from dump?
[14:35] <jeevanus> i want to restore my entire system
[14:35] <jeevanus> please help me
[14:35] <Esokrates> ActionParsnip: so update-initramfs does not look at grub at all?
[14:35] <SteveBell> bgardner: mke2fs /dev/sdb1 ? just to make sure I don't ruin things even more :P
[14:36] <jeevanus> haloo
[14:36] <jeevanus> anyone there?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> jeevanus: reinstall then restore data from backup
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> Esokrates: to my knowledge, no
[14:36] <jeevanus> backup means?
[14:36] <Esokrates> ActionParsnip: thank you sir
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> Esokrates: np :)
[14:36] <jeevanus> do i have to live boot again?
[14:37] <jeevanus> actualy i gave chmod -R 755 to all folders in file system, which made the problem, no other possible way?
[14:37] <Frosh> "sudo apt-get install lm-sensors" is not available? is there a new name?
[14:37] <bgardner> SteveBell: If you want to do the surface test beforehand: sudo mke2fs -t ext4 -c -c /dev/sdb1
[14:38] <Esokrates> jeevanus: simply boot an live cd, mount the harddrive and copy your data
[14:38] <Esokrates> jeevanus: then reinstall everything and play back the backup
[14:38] <jeevanus> but all the applications will be gone right?
[14:38] <jeevanus> Esokrates: ^
[14:39] <brian234> Hi guys, how would I go about partitioning a usb so that partition 1 would be a bootable startup disk and partition 2 would be for ordinary data?
[14:39] <Esokrates> jeevanus: of course you have an new system ... you could backup the application settings from /etc and /home
[14:39] <Esokrates> jeevanus: simply reinstalling everything and using the old config files should do it
[14:39] <jeevanus> I think the commands like restore or dump - will help - won't it?
[14:39] <jeevanus> okay
[14:40] <jeevanus> thanks
[14:40] <Esokrates> jeevanus: to be on the safe side: copy the whole /home and /etc
[14:40] <Esokrates> jeevanus: including hidden folders
[14:40] <TomJ616> Hey guys, quick question
[14:40] <SonikkuAmerica> !ask | TomJ616
[14:41] <Esokrates> jeevanus: but be careful: miconfigured stuff could ruin your new install too
[14:41] <Esokrates> jeevanus: and i suppose sth. is not right with the configs when your system does not boot anymore
[14:42] <jeevanus> if i take /etc directory and /opt
[14:42] <Esokrates> jeevanus:why opt?
[14:42] <jeevanus> will i be able to relink all the applications to the menu automaticaly
[14:42] <Esokrates> jeevanus: to waht menu?
[14:42] <TomJ616> I made a bootable USB with pendrive, but everytime I try to install Ubuntu, my monitor goes out of range. Is there a way to set a resolution for the install process?
[14:43] <jeevanus> Xfce Desktop Menu
[14:43] <jeevanus> I have made lots of configurations, all will vanish if i do your process
[14:43] <jeevanus> thats y thinking of it
[14:43] <Esokrates> jeevanus: i don't know xfce specific config file, but the menu config file has to exist somewhere (or maybe it is not a file, i dunno)
[14:44] <jeevanus> ok
[14:44] <Esokrates> jeevanus: but in the worst case simply reconfigure the stuff manually
[14:44] <jeevanus> is it no other possible way to restore my system?
[14:45] <Esokrates> jeevanus: depends on what you have done
[14:45] <jeevanus> will things be in as dump files?
[14:45] <jeevanus> so that i can restore?
[14:46] <Esokrates> jeevanus: what exactly is the problem? what have you done?
[14:46] <TomJ616> Anyone?
[14:46] <jeevanus> i gace chmod -R 775
[14:46] <jeevanus> to all directory in /
[14:46] <Esokrates> jeevanus: what do you mean by dumb files?
[14:46] <jeevanus> including ./root
[14:47] <jeevanus> when i reboot, the system is stoped in loginscreen
[14:47] <jeevanus> and not proceeding if i give password
[14:47] <Esokrates> jeevanus: okay ... what have you done before the last reboot?
[14:47] <jeevanus> dump is a package, if u install, it will have backup of all file changed
[14:48] <jeevanus> ya before last boot i gave chmod -R 775
[14:48] <jeevanus> to all directory
[14:48] <Esokrates> jeevanus: and you did nothing else?
[14:48] <jeevanus> to give permission for admin user to access all system files by default
[14:48] <jeevanus> nop
[14:48] <jeevanus> i did nothn else
[14:49] <Esokrates> jeevanus: that's very stupid ... it is logical you can't login as a normal user anymore
[14:49] <Esokrates> jeevanus: btw: root has access to all files and folders
[14:49] <jeevanus> :(
[14:50] <jeevanus> is it possible to convert chmod for all directory to default rather than 755 ?
[14:50] <Esokrates> jeevanus: change to a virtual terminal (Strg+Alt+F1)
[14:50] <jonno11> Hi guys. How can I graph memory usage over a day?
[14:50] <Esokrates> jeevanus: only problem you have: ubuntu does not support logging in as root :( so i guess you have a problem
[14:50] <jeevanus> im in virtual terminal right now
[14:51] <jeevanus> oops
[14:51] <Esokrates> jeevanus: yeah but logging in there might not work if it does not work graphically
[14:51] <jeevanus> ok i shall try recovery form live boot
[14:51] <jeevanus> thanks
[14:51] <Sovereign> hich printer company has good Linux support?
[14:51] <jeevanus> ya not working graphicaly
[14:52] <Esokrates> jeevanus: sorry i have to quit now as I have a meeting in 10 minutes ... I am online in the evening an willing to help you ...
[14:52] <jeevanus> ok bye
[14:52] <jeevanus> :)
[14:52] <bgardner> SteveBell: Have a meeting in ten minutes, I'll be back on in an hour or so.
[14:52] <Rallias> Is there an equivelant to thin_dump for ubuntu?
[14:53] <jonno11> Hi guys. How can I graph system memory usage over a day?
[14:53] <jonno11> sudo apt-get install python-setuptools python-dev build-essential
[14:53] <jonno11> wow… wrong channel. My apologies...
[14:55] <cloneG> hello I am using no-ip how could I find the dns-domain is working?
[14:55] <Frosh> what does it mean to have service --status-all with a dash?
[14:56] <cloneG> ifconfig doesnt show it
[14:56] <somsip> cloneG: nslookup maybe?
[14:56] <somsip> cloneG: erm...or dig
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> cloneG: dig yourname @<IP_ADDRESS>
[14:57] <cloneG> nslookup throws this :                 >
[14:57] <lasindi> The Software Updater window is not displaying even though I can see the program is running in the launcher. I can even right click on the launcher icon and install updates (with a progress bar appearing on the launcher) but still no actual window. Anyone else experiencing this?
[14:58] <gkimball> I have some weirdness happening on my prompt. Whenever I change directory it does this. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5764931/  Any ideas where this could be coming from?
[14:58] <parkd_> i just installed ubuntu 13.04 alongside windows 8, (not with wubi) and when i shut off and turn on my computer, it does not give the option to boot to ubuntu, any solutions?
[14:58] <auronandace> !uefi | parkd_
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> gkimball: what if you run:   cd /opt
[14:59] <cloneG> okay dig worked and my dns domain too
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> cloneG: sweet
[14:59] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: Same thing no matter what directory i move to
[14:59] <cloneG> I want it to use a vpn connection with a windows machine
[15:00] <cloneG> is it possible to remote desktop in another ubuntu session?
[15:00] <parkd_> okay do i have to make a uefi partition then?
[15:00] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: It's almost like there is an alias setup somewhere that is running something everytime i do CD
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> cloneG: session or system (physical or virtual)?
[15:00] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: But I have ruled out my home directory
[15:01] <RUCKER> Hi all, I'm in serious need of help :(.  not sure what has happened but i get the feeling my HDD may be broken.  When i try to log in the computer spits out a heap of errors and freezes.
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> gkimball: run:   env     and you will see aliases etc
[15:01] <cloneG> openvpn on ubuntu 12.04 and with a w7 openvpn client
[15:01] <RUCKER> i am dual booting with windows 7 and thats not working either
[15:01] <somsip> ActionParsnip: env or alias?
[15:01] <cloneG> I would like to use w7 to remotely login another ubuntu session
[15:01] <T-DeskTop> Does anyone know that ReviewBoard can be installed on solaris or not?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> somsip: why not both :)
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> cloneG: to achieve what ?
[15:02] <somsip> ActionParsnip: why not indeed :) cloneG
[15:02] <Pici> T-DeskTop: Perhaps you should ask some channel that deals with reviewboard or solaris... not #ubuntu
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> cloneG: there may be a sleeker solution
[15:02] <cloneG> multiple ubuntu logins
[15:03] <cloneG> thats what I want to achieve
[15:03] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: It must not be an alias, I don't see anything in my env that would be doing this
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> cloneG: you can use vnc I guess, or ltsp
[15:03] <KI7YY> cloneG Ubuntu, as is all Linux, is multi-user by design
[15:04] <KI7YY> any ssh client for w7 can do that
[15:04] <T-DeskTop> Pici, yeah i should have
[15:04] <gkimball> If I type cd by itself it takes me to the home directory with the same messages
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> gkimball  cd is one way to go to your home folder
[15:05] <gkimball> MonkeyDust: yup, just saying that no matter what form of cd i type i get this message. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5764931/
[15:06] <cloneG> vnc ltsp¡
[15:06] <cloneG> ?
[15:06] <cloneG> and why not vpn?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> gkimball: what is the output of:   type cd
[15:07] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5764952/
[15:07] <KI7YY> cloneG you can use a simple app such as teamviewer if you want a remorte gui
[15:08] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: Hmmm, could it be something to do with rvm?
[15:09] <cloneG> yep but teamviewer uses servers I dont need
[15:09] <cloneG> I want a secure connection between two computers
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> gkimball: you have defined that somewhere, it should say 'cd is a shell builtin'
[15:10] <KI7YY> well the problem is xwindows sharing with w7 cloneG. W7 does not have the safety and inherent multi-user capability of Linux. For a secure connection use SSH it is very secure
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> gkimball: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:10] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: Hmm, is there a way to see where function definitions are defined?
[15:11] <gkimball> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> gkimball: I'd look in /etc/environment and ~/.bashrc
[15:13] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: .bashrc and all the stuff in my home directory will be fine. I use Git to keep the same setup across multiple computers. Just this ssh server is being silly and i think it's something a co-worker messed up on.
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> gkimball: check ~/.profile   too
[15:14] <gkimball> Action ahh true
[15:15] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: I believe this is default .profile? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5764974/
[15:17] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: Nothing weird in environment
[15:17] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: bash.bashrc is default
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> gkimball: looks fine, you could always grep the entire file system for those lines from the type output
[15:25] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: When I do declare -F I can see all defined functions
[15:25] <Serpiente> I configured my server to use a proxy server in our local network with setting http_proxy variable, how can I bypass the use of the proxy for internal network traffic?
[15:26] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: grepping cd returns declare -f _cd, declare -f _cd_devices
[15:26] <gkimball> I think the offender is this _cd
[15:29] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5765022/
[15:29] <mop> do I have to update apt to have a newly added ppa usable?
[15:30] <TKing> since i cant access desktop i did a reboot using boot repair and this is the output even though i still cannt login  to user desktop http://paste.ubuntu.com/5765018/
[15:30] <bazhang> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade mop
[15:30] <mop> why the upgrade?
[15:31] <bazhang> to upgrade all packages
[15:31] <bazhang> then install whatever you wish from the ppa, there's sometimes more than one package mop
[15:33] <mop> but is the upgrade necessary to install a pckg from the ppa?
[15:34] <Pici> mop: Doing 'upgrade' will not upgrade you to a new release of Ubuntu.
[15:35] <mop> I know, it just that i'm making a script and making it upgrade the packages will make it take longer
[15:35] <mop> I just want to install a package form the ppa
[15:36] <orestis> hello I have a problem.... I installed nvidia drivers but i cannot use the drivers. I run nvidia-xconfig but it says the command was not found
[15:36] <Pici> mop: Then just the 'update' and 'install' steps are needed.
[15:37] <mop> is there a way to install directly from a ppa without having to add it?
[15:37] <mop> so I don't even have to update
[15:37] <mop> :P
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> mop  a ppa is a source, so you have to add it first
[15:38] <Pici> mop: You can download .deb files directly, but without knowing what exactly the dependencies are and if they require new versions that are only on the PPA, its really not a good idea.
[15:39] <mop> can I get the .deb file address from any ppa?
[15:39] <mop> any ppa's packages
[15:43] <manikiran> mine is Dual boot system with windows vista and ubuntu 12.04
[15:43] <manikiran> I upgraded to 12.10 and now I cannot install ndiswrapper-dkms
[15:43] <manikiran> please advice me., now the wireless in the windows too is not working
[15:47] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[15:50] <minimec> mantovan1: If it's not working on both OS, the device is hard/software blocked. Swich the device off/on with the hardware switch (if you have one) and type 'rfkill list' once in a terminal, to check if it is software blocked.
[15:52] <Sirisian|Work> If I have an apt-get install -y then like a 100 packages, what's a simple way to verify they all installed correctly?
[15:53] <minimec> mantovan1: Oh. Is that a Lenovo device maybe? I had once, where I had to reset the BIOS to default from time to time. http://askubuntu.com/questions/143208/unable-to-enable-wireless-on-lenovo-3000-v200
[15:53] <dhci> check if the retval for apt-get is zero then presumably everything went ok
[15:54] <minimec> mantovan1: ... hade one once ... ;)
[15:57] <christian> hi
[15:57] <Guest27439> has anyone gotten tmuxinator installed on ubunu?
[15:58] <Guest27439> anyone?
[16:00] <wheatthin> Guest27439, is that program supported by ubuntu?
[16:01] <bazhang> !info tmuxinator
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> Guest27439  it's called tmux
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> !info tmux
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> i guess tmux is similar to screen
[16:02] <mweltin> I'm working on PCI compliance and (addressing CVE-2012-2687).  http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/USN-1627-1/ suggests I need apache2.2-common 2.2.22-6ubuntu2.1 installed.  When I look at the update instructions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Upgrades, I have already taken these step.  How do I verify that I have the correct versions of the aforementioned packages? Will using dpkg -s <package name> and looking at the "status" be sufficient?
[16:02] <Guest27439> MonkeyDust: tmux is. tmuxinator is something else
[16:03] <mweltin> for example dpkg -s apache2.2-common  Status: install ok installed ?
[16:03] <wheatthin> Guest27439, I'd suggest googling for the ppa and install in there (completely off ubuntu grid)
[16:06] <mop> is wget asynchronous?
[16:06] <mop> it looks like it's acting that way
[16:08] <wheatthin> mop, wget is like any transfer program, it's just not a sync program if that's what you're asking
[16:09] <TomJ616> Guys, is there a way to tell Ubuntu what resolution to use during install?
[16:09] <TomJ616> I've been going nuts trying to find a solution online
[16:10] <ActionPa1snip> TomJ616: you could edit the session config file to set the res using xrandr
[16:10] <wheatthin> mop, git or subversion is more what you're looking for
[16:12] <TomJ616> I'm a first Linux user BTW
[16:12] <TomJ616> Actually, seeing how I haven't been able to install it, I'm not a user yet lol
[16:12] <Track> What ??
[16:13] <wheatthin> TomJ616, Umm do you have a specific question?
[16:13] <auronandace> TomJ616: why do you need to change the resolution during install? surely you'd want to change it once installed
[16:13] <kiss_kill> TomJ616:you can see wiki
[16:13] <kiss_kill> wiki is very importent
[16:13] <TomJ616> I can't install Ubuntu at all, seeing how my monitor goes "out of range"
[16:13] <kiss_kill> wiki
[16:14] <cat5> we got any LVM experts kicking around in here, or a good room recomendation? #lvm seems "quiet"
[16:14] <kiss_kill> ubuntu wiki
[16:14] <kiss_kill> you can have a look
[16:16] <TomJ616> I've spent the last IDK how many hours reading wikis and what not lol
[16:16] <TomJ616> No luck
[16:17] <kiss_kill> you can use 2 cumputers   one see wiki  another install ubuntu
[16:20] <Guest91716> I have xubuntu. When I want to send someone something from another online site, it says I have to sign up for some blog or something. I forget exactly what it says. But how can I send a friend a site to look at without having to do that?
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> Guest91716  i guess it's question for the site's maintainer
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> not really ubuntu related
[16:21] <kiss_kill> ye
[16:21] <kiss_kill> MonkeyDust is right
[16:22] <TomJ616> So, any ideas?
[16:22] <TomJ616> lol
[16:22] <Guest91716> umm so, it depends on the site? There's no easy way to send something to someone from an online site?
[16:22] <kiss_kill> :)
[16:23] <Guest91716> I've noticed that on different online sites. They ask for you to sign up for some blog so that you can get e-mail. I don't get it.
[16:23] <lapalu1> :-D
[16:23] <auronandace> Guest91716: still has nothing to do with ubuntu
[16:23] <kiss_kill> sign up
[16:23] <kiss_kill> know it?
[16:23] <Guest91716> oh   O.K.
[16:24] <Frosh> pastebin.com/HG2qQsJa then I do sudo service kmod start and kmod stop/waiting
[16:24] <Frosh> Is that normal? running
[16:27] <kirankumar> how to install a software in ubuntu ? what Syntax for insall software.
[16:27] <auronandace> !software | kirankumar
[16:28] <kiss_kill> softcenter
[16:28] <kirankumar> thanks ubottu sir,
[16:28] <kiss_kill> or sudo apt-get install your soft
[16:29] <LupusNoctis> Anyone aware of some special tricks, or guides, on how to get 13.04 installed inside  Windows Virtual PC  VMs?
[16:30] <auronandace> LupusNoctis: why not use virtualbox?
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> LupusNoctis  in this channel, you'll find more support for virtualbox
[16:31] <ubu> haha I'm running dapper drake :D
[16:31] <sim642> After upgrading from Ubuntu server 12.10 to 13.04, the network configuration doesn't work properly on boot: "waiting more than 60 seconds ...." and when it finally boots, no network, but after "service networking restart" all works. How can I fix this?
[16:31] <auronandace> ubu: long since unsupported
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> ubu  thou art a brave man :)
[16:32] <LupusNoctis> Hmm, might have to fiddle with Virtual Box, then.  it pretty  simple to get it installed?
[16:32] <ubu> Just wanted to experience a little ubuntu history
[16:32] <kiss_kill> go to bed  88  china now time is 00:32  gaga
[16:33] <LupusNoctis> The real goal is to find some way of getting specific apps to use a VPN tunnel, by exe/ProcessID,  rather than by route
[16:33] <ubu> LupusNoctis: very easy
[16:34] <LupusNoctis> but for now, I'm settling for running those apps inside a VM, and giving the all the VM traffic to the VPN route
[16:35] <ububhm> virtualbox is a little too fun to play with. Been up all night with it. lol
[16:38] <edward__> Hello is there a way to script around the fact that a standard postgres install needs conf file editing?
[16:39] <babyswizz> I would like to know what happens when you have a disrupted network while having an update, does ubuntu go back and try to install the updates it skipped while the network was disrupted?
[16:41] <TKing> error: unknown filesystem grub rescue> please how do i fix this?
[16:41] <Macuser> Hi. If the dhcp is reset on my Mac by going to sleep. Will that cause me not to be able to ssh to my Linux box?
[16:41] <Macuser> originally I ssh'ed from my Macbook Pro to my Linux desktop. Then I took the wificard out of my linux box and also closed my Mac laptop. Then the next morning, I opened my Mac laptop and also plugged the wificard back into the linux box and then I tried the same command and it didn't work
[16:41] <Macuser> Finally, it worked after I turned my wifi off and on again on my Mac. I'm not sure if that's why it started working again
[16:41] <TKing> error: unknown filesystem grub rescue> please how do i fix this? i do not have any other windows
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> babyswizz  most probably, you can repair / continue with dpkg -a --repair or with apt-get -f install
[16:43] <bkfitz> Anyone here use sublime-text?
[16:43] <bazhang> !find sublime
[16:44] <rti^> I'm trying to install libimobiledevice-1.1.5 and I run ./config an it goes through it's process but it does not produce a makefile. The README says to run make after I ./config but since there is no makefile produced, it can't be found. Help!
[16:45] <trism> rti^: pastebining the last few lines of ./configure output might help
[16:47] <TKing> please how do i fix this? error: unknown filesystem grub rescue> please how do i fix this? i do not have any other windows
[16:49] <subz3r0> !grub | TKing
[16:54] <TKing> subz3ro i get unknow commands no matter what i type? ls -l , rescue, help, update-grub, sudo update-grub nothing all i see is grub rescue >
[16:55] <LupusNoctis> Hmm, VirtualBox does nice drive sharing with the host OS?
[16:56] <subz3r0> LupusNoctis: depends what you mean with "nice drive sharing". but yes it is possible to share data between host and guest easily
[17:01] <rachid> hi everyone, i would like to install gnome-shell on my ubuntu 11.10
[17:01] <rachid> anyone to help?
[17:01] <LupusNoctis> Just trying to transfer bulk files out and in, renders and whatnot
[17:01] <Macuser> find gnome-shell
[17:01] <Macuser> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell?
[17:01] <ripplebit> guys how do i format an SD card?
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> rachid  you won't find 11.10 sources, it's !eol
[17:03] <adamk> Macuser: Do you have an actual question there?
[17:03] <xangua> ripplebit: use the Disk utility, search it in the dash
[17:03] <Macuser> adamk Woah! Dude is your name adam and last name start with a "k" ??
[17:04] <adamk> Macuser: Yes...
[17:04] <Macuser> Same!
[17:06] <kenshiro> Hi, I use Ubuntu 12.04 with Gnome Classic Desktop. I need a CPU temperature indicator to put in a panel. I don't want to install external repositories. Is there someone in official repositories? Thanks !
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> kenshiro  try conky or grell
[17:07] <Macuser> query adamk what's the second letter in your last name?
[17:07] <Macuser> since when do queries not work anymore?
[17:08] <adamk> Macuser: i
[17:08] <genii> Since you forgot to put a / before the command
[17:08] <Macuser> adamk OMG! same
[17:08] <kenshiro> MonkeyDust thank you ! :)
[17:09] <Macuser> adamk: third letter?
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> kenshiro  it's gkrell, i mistyped
[17:09] <adamk> Macuser: Seriously?  It doesn't matter.
[17:09] <Macuser> Ah. you can tell it's been a while since i've been on irc. Actually not really. I should have known that
[17:10] <kenshiro> MonkeyDust ok, installing ... thank you ! :-)
[17:10] <tilted> Hi -- is there any utility to securely wipe the free space of a drive, while leaving existing partitions alone?  I want to preserve a recovery partition, but wipe everything else off the drive. Something similar to DBAN but as I understand, that will wipe the whole drive including the recovery partition.
[17:10] <Macuser> adamk answer the pm
[17:11] <rhizome> is there anything more reliable than ntop for friendly local network monitoring? rather not wireshark, but will if i have to.
[17:11] <subz3r0> tilted: dd
[17:12] <subz3r0> rhizome: yes
[17:12] <subz3r0> rhizome: vnstat
[17:13] <tilted> subz3r0: Hmm, hadn't thought of that.  That could work if given randomized input.  Will do some research, thanks.
[17:13] <subz3r0> searched a while for a tool like that. it can show you the realtime tx and rx. also you can see month,day,hour.... up/down
[17:14] <rhizome> subz3r0: swank, thanks a lot
[17:14] <subz3r0> np
[17:15] <rhizome> ntop used to be so nice
[17:16] <bandit22> Does anyone have a problem with firefox crashing frequently in 12.04?
[17:16] <LiquidDemocracy> What is the name of the offtopic channel again?
[17:17] <Marvin_Leo> ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS not connecting to internet via linksys e900 wireless-n300 router. Any ideas?
[17:17] <subz3r0> #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:18] <subz3r0> Marvin_Leo: maybe tell us what you did to troubleshoot the issue?
[17:18] <LiquidDemocracy> I mean offtopic for all channels.
[17:18] <subz3r0> --> /quit
[17:18] <llutz> !alis | LiquidDemocracy
[17:20] <Crowler> does 13.04 support logical partitions?
[17:20] <llutz> Crowler: sure
[17:22]  * genii sips his coffee and ponders the booting from extended partition problem
[17:24] <Orange_> Hey, can anyone help me with a Ubuntu problem?
[17:24] <Jermakovi> Good evening :)
[17:24] <adamk> Orange_: Only if you ask a real question.
[17:25] <jerry5> Hi. How can I modify Ubuntu to auto shutdown if the unlock screen password is incorrect?
[17:25] <music> hello
[17:25] <GGG> ello
[17:26] <Orange_> Haha, fair enough; I was installing my driver for a Radeon Hd 4200 on Ubuntu and after I installed it and restarted eveyrthing has fucked up.. The resolution on my monitors is now veyr low ad says "laptop" instead of two monitors with 1920x1080 and such and the menu bar is gone, the info in th etop of the screen is gone, etc..
[17:26] <Orange_> Not sure how to fix it
[17:26] <adamk> Orange_: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.  How did you install the driver?
[17:27] <subz3r0> Orange_: buy a decent gfx card.
[17:27] <subz3r0> means nvidia ;)
[17:27] <tithan> my computer  HD som capacity is unlocated how i can do?
[17:27] <Orange_> I downloaded the file from the AMD website, then ran it with sudo ./amd-whatever
[17:27] <Orange_> Working on the log file, hold on
[17:27] <adamk> Orange_: sigh...  Bad idea.
[17:27] <adamk> Orange_: What version of Ubuntu?
[17:28] <poee> has seamonkey been removed from ubuntu repositories?
[17:28] <poee> !seamonkey
[17:28] <Orange_> 13.04
[17:28] <subz3r0> adamk: why bad idea? The drivers of the repos are hardly outdated
[17:28] <subz3r0> especially for ati cards...
[17:28] <adamk> subz3r0: He didn't use the driver in the repos.  He used a driver from AMD, which will not work with Xorg on 13.904.
[17:29] <adamk> Orange_: Your only options with that GPU on 13.04 are to use the open source drivers, or use the legacy fglrx driver, which requires downgrading all of Xorg.
[17:29] <GGG> I need to boot from a USB with Ubuntu on a Razor Blade - on power up I'm able to press F12 and set the boot drive to generic USB and then the screen goes black with white blinking curser -- nothing can be done at this point besides a power down --- the usb only has the Ubuntu ISO on it  (ver 13.x 32bit)    what gives?   Thanks
[17:29] <subz3r0> omg... thats why I would never buy ati/amd again ;)
[17:29] <Orange_> So would it just be a better idea to reformat?
[17:30] <adamk> Orange_: Remove the driver you installed.
[17:30] <Crowler> GGG you forgot to make it bootable
[17:30] <Orange_> How do I do that? (Sorry I know it's a stupid question but I'm new to Ubuntu)
[17:30] <Crowler> GGG and you need content of iso on it, not iso itself
[17:32] <Orange_> adamk: How do I uninstall the driver?
[17:32] <adamk> Orange_: Check in /usr/share/amd/ for an uninstall program...  This is another reason to to download and install drivers like this.
[17:33] <GGG> @Crowler   hrm... I followed the directions and watched someone else do this --- the Ubuntu download is an ISO file   if this isn't what is needed where do I get Ubunto's ISO content?
[17:34]  * sere_ looks for a ubuntu coffee mug for genii, since they drink coffee so much.
[17:34] <Crowler> GGG how about unpacking iso?
[17:34] <GGG> derp
[17:34] <m8> conoscete qualche soluzione hardware\software per realizzare un piccolo thin client?
[17:34] <subthalamus_> can somebody confirm that "nanny" is no longer available or has been replaced by something? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ParentalControls
[17:35] <bekks> !it | m8
[17:35] <GGG> Crowler -- and to make it bootable?
[17:35] <Crowler> GGG get syslinux
[17:36] <melow01> I'm planning to install Android Studio. Since I already have Eclipse, does that mean I already have the needed JDK?
[17:37] <Orange_> Found "amd-uninstall.sh" and "fglrx-uninstall.sh" Thanks Adam
[17:38] <GGG> Crowler -- the only machines I have working are OSX, I'm repairing my Win7 ...  know anything on OSX to make the USB bootable?
[17:39]  * GGG googles
[17:40] <mkquist> still using 11.04 Natty, cannot download software through the software center or synaptic...  is that from no support or just a glitch?
[17:41] <genii> mkquist: It's past End Of Life
[17:41] <genii> !eol
[17:41] <Ari-Yang> yep, it's dead
[17:41] <mkquist> genii: ty
[17:42] <genii> mkquist: You're welcome.
[17:42] <m8> bekks, xchat has faked me! amsg :|
[17:43] <Crowler> GGG never used it
[17:43] <GGG> k
[17:45] <orange__> adamx: Alright, I restarted my computer, after the uninstall my monitor issue is fixed (I have them both working now with proper resolution and such) but the rest of the issues still remain (The lack of the menu bar on the left-hand side, the time at the top, the top-right settings, etc..) as well as my hotkeys aren't working other than the standard default setups.
[17:46] <adamk> orange__: Pastebin your current /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[17:48] <orange__> adamk: This hurts me to ask it sounds so stupid haha.. But how do I copy and paste the entire log? I'm having trouble selecting all in any normal way..
[17:48] <Neozonz> just installed ubuntu and after initial reboot i get a black screen with a blinking cursor
[17:48] <Neozonz> what gives
[17:48] <adamk> orange__: Install pastebinit and then run 'pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[17:49] <orange__> adamk: Thank you so much. :)
[17:52] <orange__> adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5765455/
[17:52] <frey> Hello. Do you know of a way to download all available proprietary Ubuntu WiFi drivers to keep them available offline?
[17:55] <adamk> orange__: Can you bring up a terminal in X and run 'glxinfo | grep -i direct'?
[17:55] <rudolf_> hi all
[17:55] <orange__> adamk: One second
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | neoark
[17:56] <orange__> adamk: I got "direct rendering: Yes"
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> Neozonz, see the bott message^^^^
[17:56] <neoark> ?
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> neoark, soory
[17:57] <TKing> how can i run grub.cfg file from "grub rescue >" prompt. The command ls  /boot/grub/ shows the file is there and configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg doesnt work
[17:57] <adamk> orange__: Can you just run 'glxinfo | pastebinit' ?
[17:58] <orange__> adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5765475/
[17:58] <Crowler> TKing afaik you cant edit files at stage 1.5
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> TKing, Are you trying to just get to the desktop?
[17:59] <adamk> orange__: You are properly using the open source radeon driver. The fact that unity is not properly started is not related to your video drivers, as far as I can tell.
[17:59] <orange__> adamk: .-. I have no idea what else it could be then.. That was the last thing I was doing to my computer..
[18:00] <surjeet> hi to all
[18:00] <sere_> TKing: what are you trying to do, did you lose your grub?
[18:01] <dcope> will this work on ubuntu? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16880101008
[18:01] <dcope> i can't find any mentions anywhere
[18:02] <Neozonz> wilee-nilee, how can i modify that if the computer doesnt boot
[18:04] <jerry5> Hi. How can I modify Ubuntu to auto shutdown if the unlock screen password is incorrect?
[18:05] <rudolf_> sorry got dc
[18:05] <rudolf_> did anyone reply?
[18:05] <orange__> adamk: So do you have any advice how I can fix things
[18:05] <TKing> sere i lost my grub
[18:06] <melow01> {ubuntu 12.04 64-bit} I'm try to export ENV_VAR="/path/" and its not working
[18:06] <melow01> It should be in the .bashrc file, correct?
[18:06] <Crowler> rudolf_  <rudolf_> hi all
[18:06] <TKing> sere_ i lost my grub
[18:06] <Crowler> rudolf_  thats all we got
[18:07] <rudolf_> oh...sorry Crowler
[18:07] <rudolf_>  I am trying to use usb modem on my ubuntu. I searched many sites but couldnt find a way to connect. Is there any application for that?
[18:07] <rudolf_> Ubuntu is just not detecting the modem.
[18:07] <TKing> wilee-nilee, sere_, Crowler, bootable LIVEUSB doesnt work uefi problem so i cant boot from LiveUSB but i lost my grub and want to reload from usb or hdd to fix my grub
[18:08] <rudolf_> Some sites are asking to edit one file and some are asking to edit some others but none is working.
[18:08] <Crowler> rudolf_  you forgot to tell that modem name
[18:09] <adamk> orange__: You could try completely resetting your unity preferences: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04
[18:09] <rudolf_> Crowler, 'tis micromax 353G
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> TKing, Your best help is at the ubuntu forums qith uefi, find the bootrepair tool run a bootinfo summary and start a thread at the UF and post the url to that script.
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> *with
[18:11] <sere_> TKing: i dont know anything about uefi but i assume you mean this doesnt work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[18:11] <TKing> sere_ i dont have windows,
[18:11] <sere_> TKing: thats ok ..still same concept
[18:11] <Crowler> rudolf_  been there? http://askubuntu.com/questions/214398/how-to-set-up-micromax-353g-wireless-modem-in-12-10
[18:11] <TKing> i wish i can run grub.cfg from grub rescue
[18:12] <samuncle> a
[18:12] <TKing> sere_ if i can't boot CD then nothing can be done
[18:12] <TKing> sere_ cant boot cd or liveUSB
[18:13] <rudolf_> Crowler, yeah...I tried that
[18:13] <TKing> if it was grub2 i would have fixed it but grub with grub rescue> very limited commands
[18:13] <rudolf_> I should try once again with this. I think I forgot something.
[18:14] <sere_> TKing: oh i see..hmm
[18:15] <Crowler> rudolf_  where it failed?
[18:16] <rudolf_> Crowler, when I entered the command modprobe..... it gave a long list with some wierd name.
[18:17] <BluesKaj> TKing, have you tried installing grub from the live media to the /dev/sdX , most likely /dev/sda ?
[18:17] <Crowler> rudolf_  can you paste?
[18:17] <rudolf_> But still doesnt detect the modem.
[18:17] <rudolf_> yeah sure
[18:17] <TKing> BlueaKaj? how can i do that?
[18:18] <rudolf_> minute
[18:18] <jerry5> How can I modify Ubuntu to auto shutdown if the unlock screen password is incorrect?
[18:20] <rudolf_> Crowler, the list is so long that terminal isnt able to display it completely.
[18:20] <rudolf_> Can i pipe it to some text file?
[18:20] <BluesKaj> TKing, from your live-usb , sudo grub-install /dev/sdX , if you run fdisk -l in the terminal on the live-usb , you'll find the assigned device /dev/sdX
[18:21] <Crowler> rudolf_  command | out.txt
[18:21] <BluesKaj> TKing, X being a,b,c or whatever it lists as.
[18:21] <Crowler> rudolf_  or command > out.txt
[18:22] <rudolf_> yeah got it
[18:22] <TKing> BluesKaj all i see is grub rescue > i cant boot liveUSB
[18:26] <sere_> jerry5: is this the inital boot login screen or gnome-screensaver --lock?
[18:26] <rudolf_> The text file created is so huge... 1.1MB
[18:27] <rudolf_> pastie is taking so much time to upload the text. :|
[18:27] <jerry5> sere_, it's gnome-screensaver --lock
[18:27] <Crowler> rudolf_  looks like its not what we want, but anyway
[18:27] <TKing> BluesKaj i have loaded LiveUSB now how do i boot
[18:28] <TKing> with bootrepair
[18:28] <rudolf_> Crowler it shouldnt be this long?
[18:29] <rudolf_> it has some lines starting with blacklist
[18:29] <BluesKaj> TKing, is your machine set to boot from live media in the bios or uefi ?
[18:29] <rudolf_> blacklist snd_intel8x0m
[18:29] <rudolf_> blacklist snd_aw2
[18:29] <rudolf_> blacklist i2c_i801
[18:29] <rudolf_> blacklist prism54
[18:29] <rudolf_> blacklist bcm43xx
[18:29] <rudolf_> blacklist garmin_gps
[18:29] <FloodBot1> rudolf_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:30] <Crowler> rudolf_  unless you trying to cat /proc/mem, or debug something, you usually dont get megabytes of text
[18:30] <rudolf_> sorry
[18:30] <rudolf_> hmm...I tried that procedure twice but still the same result.
[18:31] <Crowler> rudolf_  maybe you have a typo in your "modprobe" line
[18:32] <rudolf_> is the command given on the site correct? I even tried pasting it.
[18:33] <rudolf_> Crowler, will there be a "\" after 1c9e??
[18:33] <rudolf_> see it.
[18:34] <Crowler> rudolf_  you have japanese keyboard?
[18:35] <rudolf_> In the post just below it, it is written that the above answer works on ubuntu 12.04 and I have ubuntu 13.04
[18:36] <Crowler> rudolf_  you can try. i highly doubt there are so many changes in usb stack between 12 and 13
[18:36] <Jeremiah_> Good day to all!
[18:37] <rudolf_> Crowler, no not japanese keyboard.
[18:37] <Jeremiah_> I am having a duel nooting issue.
[18:37] <Jeremiah_> duel
[18:37] <Jeremiah_> booting
[18:37] <studmeister> Hi everyone. I am trying to find out how to find the ip address for a specific url.
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | Jeremiah_
[18:38] <rudolf_> Crowler, is the command written there correct?
[18:38] <Jeremiah_> I originally had ubuntu, and decidedto get windows. So i did. Now i can no longer boot into ubuntu. how do i fix this issue?
[18:38] <llutz> studmeister: "dig hostname"
[18:38] <jerry5> How can I modify Ubuntu to auto shutdown if the unlock screen password is incorrect?
[18:38] <Crowler> rudolf_  so, what does correct modprobe line give out?
[18:39] <studmeister> Ok, thank you.
[18:39] <BluesKaj> !grub | Jeremiah_
[18:39] <rudolf_> Crowler I dont know which is correct...I tried removing "\" and still the same result.
[18:39] <Jeremiah_> lotuspsychje,  My issue is these tutorials explain how to do it when insatlling ubuntu second, not windows second....
[18:39] <Jeremiah_> that might help
[18:40] <Fenb> what's recommended open source or Proitory something?
[18:40] <BluesKaj> Jeremiah_, read above
[18:40] <Jeremiah_> BluesKaj,  K thanks. I'll look into that
[18:41] <sere_> jerry5: you might be able to do it with your .profile using some sort of if and then script.. kinda like this http://techblog.ribouxj.org/2010/01/27/password-protected-auto-login-on-ubuntu-auto-lock-screen-after-login/
[18:41] <adamk> Fenb: There is no simple answer to that question.  First, different people recommend different things...  Second, I don't think anyone here has any idea what you are actually talking about...
[18:41] <rudolf_> The commands in ubuntu are so complex and difficult to understand!!
[18:41] <bradley__> does anyone here have ubuntu server? im connected to a wireless netowrk but i cant get an ip address and google is no help
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> !bash | rudolf_
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> bradley__: you can try #ubuntu-server aswell
[18:42] <bradley__> thansks!
[18:42] <jerry5> sere_, TY
[18:43] <WeThePeople> hi
[18:44] <Fenb> adamk: i talking about everything? but just now im just corious if i should use flashplugin or gnash. Nvidia or Neuaveou something etc?
[18:44] <GGG> anyone use Unetbootin on a Mac to make a bootable Ubuntu USB?
[18:44] <sere_> jerry5: your welcome
[18:44] <WeThePeople> ggg, try ##mac or #mac
[18:45] <GGG> or better yet anyone know how to make a bootable USB for Ubuntu via a Mac?
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> GGG: you can download ubuntu livecd and make an usb from there maybe
[18:45] <adamk> Fenb: Use whatever works best to fill your needs.
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> Fenb: maybe you can specify your purpose more? or any package you looking for?
[18:46] <adamk> Fenb: It's not as if you can't try the options out there and find the one that is best for you.
[18:47] <ningu> I'm running ubuntu server, and I have some web apps that are stored in a home directory and run under that user. it would be nice if I could manage starting them up with an upstart or similar script in that user's home directory. any suggestions how that could be done?
[18:47] <ningu> I've been using this but it seems to have stopped working in upstart 1.8: http://pastebin.com/rk9u3Zhv
[18:47] <WeThePeople> ningu, #bash might be able to help also
[18:48] <ningu> WeThePeople: ok, but the issue is not how to write the startup script, it's how to get it triggered on boot without having to add a custom /etc/init/foo.conf
[18:48] <armin> any way to change virtual desktops with the mouse wheel on the desktop in unity?
[18:49] <ningu> WeThePeople: or rather, I'd like to add one that scans $HOME/.init like the one I linked to, so after that's installed I can just edit $HOME/.init/foo.conf :)
[18:49] <WeThePeople> ningu, have fun
[18:49] <WeThePeople> :)
[18:50] <Fenb> lotuspsychje: flash in general, and nvidia for general?
[18:50] <Crowler> rudolf_ the command itself looks ok, its just an init string for usb device. shoud work
[18:51] <Fenb> adamk: what's your opinion?
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> !poll | Fenb
[18:52] <rudolf_> hey Crowler you there?
[18:53] <Fenb> lotuspsychje: yea, but how do i know the features?
[18:53] <Crowler> rudolf_ the command itself looks ok, its just an init string for usb device. shoud work
[18:54] <rudolf_> Crowler yeah I got something. Wait...I am pasting.
[18:54] <Crowler> rudolf_ i found some guy with your modem and 13.04
[18:54] <rudolf_> It works?
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> Fenb: test them out for yourself, when you install ubuntu defaults workout fine mostly
[18:55] <Crowler> rudolf_ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2143158
[18:55] <rudolf_> Crowler, see this...got this message http://paste.ubuntu.com/5765640/
[18:55] <Crowler> rudolf_ usb_modeswitch dies with segfault
[18:56] <rudolf_> Crowler, I dont understand these keywords. :|
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> !info gnash | Fenb
[18:58] <rudolf_> Crowler, that guy has got the same laptop too.
[18:59] <rudolf_> What packages did he downgrade??
[19:00] <Crowler> rudolf_ he downgraded modeswitch to 12.04
[19:00] <Esokrates>  jeevanus: are you here with another nickname? I would be ready to help you
[19:00] <saram_> Hi, is it possible to install cinelerra (video editing software) on ubuntu 12.04?
[19:01] <Neozonz|Disc> is there anyway to set grub.conf to nomodeset by default when installing?
[19:02] <rudolf_> Crowler, how to downgrade the version? There is no such option in synaptics for that.
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | Neozonz|Disc
[19:02] <OerHeks> Neozonz|Disc, nomodeset is an F6 option when starting the installer, there is no force to do so automaticly
[19:03] <Neozonz|Disc> OerHeks, but after installation does it retain the setting?
[19:03] <Neozonz|Disc> or must i do something again?
[19:03] <OerHeks> Neozonz, no, you need to alter grub to get nomodeset after install
[19:03] <OerHeks> see the url from lotuspsychje
[19:03] <Neozonz|Disc> im trying
[19:04] <Neozonz|Disc> but i can't get into shift grub editor
[19:04] <OerHeks> it is easy, hold stift @ boot, press 'e' to enter grub editor
[19:04] <Neozonz|Disc> it doesnt go to grub editor
[19:04] <Neozonz|Disc> when i hold shift
[19:04] <Neozonz|Disc> it just sits at stupid black screen with cursor blinking
[19:05] <Neozonz|Disc> making me want to smack the thing
[19:05] <Crowler> rudolf_ manually i guess. i dont have ubuntu or any linux at hand atm
[19:05] <rudolf_> okies
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> Neozonz|Disc: calm down mate, wich medium you trying to install from?
[19:05] <Neozonz|Disc> 13.04
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> Neozonz|Disc: usb?
[19:06] <Neozonz|Disc> yes
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> Neozonz|Disc: did you change bios properly?
[19:06] <Neozonz|Disc> change bios?
[19:06] <Neozonz|Disc> just copied dvd to usb
[19:07] <Neozonz|Disc> and made usb active
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> Neozonz|Disc: did you copy ubuntu livecd to an usb?
[19:07] <Neozonz|Disc> lotuspsychje, yes
[19:07] <Neozonz|Disc> the install dvd
[19:07] <Neozonz|Disc> ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64
[19:08] <mmercer> lo all.  So, while realizing that 11.04 is EOL now, is there any way of getting to an archive repo of the last known packages so I can at least setup an internal mirror until we can upgrade our servers?
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> Neozonz|Disc: that wont work, you need to make an usb startup disk to an usb
[19:08] <Neozonz|Disc> lotuspsychje, it works fine for me? it installed? it boots up
[19:08] <DJones> mmercer: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[19:08] <Neozonz|Disc> i set the usb as active to make it boot...
[19:09] <DJones> mmercer: However that may just be iso's rather than a repo
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> Neozonz|Disc: so you ubuntu installed finished correctly, but you cant enter grub at startup?
[19:09] <Neozonz|Disc> yes
[19:09] <mmercer> DJones: unfortunately, yep.  ISOs only :|
[19:10] <Neozonz|Disc> ubuntu finished installing, asked me to reboot- I reboot and see a black screen with a blinking __
[19:10]  * mmercer *just* started this position and did not have a chance to deal with this as it popped up right before he got here.
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> Neozonz|Disc: you got other Os installed next to ubuntu?
[19:10] <Neozonz|Disc> yes
[19:10] <ripplebit> guys my sd reader isn't working. im getting these errors: http://pastebin.com/562FAHPt
[19:10] <Neozonz|Disc> on windows atm
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> Neozonz|Disc: wich windows version
[19:11] <mmercer> wonder what the chances are of finding a public mirror that hasnt closed down yet....
[19:11] <GGG> notice STEP 3       http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[19:11] <Neozonz|Disc> lotuspsychje, no not next to, this is a different machine
[19:11] <Neozonz|Disc> lotuspsychje, windows 8- this is a different machine
[19:11] <Neozonz|Disc> the ubuntu machine only has ubuntu installed
[19:11] <GGG> does that mean I should remove the .dmg ??? such obtuse directions
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> Neozonz|Disc: so ubuntu 13.04 single
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> Neozonz|Disc: your machine got newer hardware or rather old?
[19:12] <max2> I'm using Windows 8 and
[19:12] <Zwei> Hello, I've installed some xfonts, and it must have messed around with some settings. Now I cannot load acroread, I get this: http://codepad.org/1Twec8qk
[19:12] <Neozonz|Disc> 2-3 years old maybe
[19:12] <Neozonz|Disc> got 2 ati video cards
[19:13] <Zwei> I have tried to install all manners of gtk stuff, I really can't get it working.
[19:13] <max2> I'm using Widows 8 and I wanna boot a Ubuntu 13.04 from Virual Box
[19:13] <lukecarrier> Update git from a PPA -> get asked to reboot machine
[19:13] <max2> how do you get it to work?
[19:13] <ripplebit> guys my sd reader isn't working. im getting these errors: http://pastebin.com/562FAHPt
[19:13] <lukecarrier> Who on earth designed this pitiful excuse for an update manager?
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> Neozonz|Disc: well if you installed correctly single, it should work..
[19:14] <max2> Can I please get help
[19:14] <Neozonz|Disc> lotuspsychje, thx
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> max2: for windows help join ##windows
[19:14] <lukecarrier> max2, download VirtualBox, download a 32-bit Ubuntu Desktop image, follow the new VM instructions in VBox
[19:14] <max2> okat
[19:14] <max2> okay
[19:14] <max2> I'm gonna try thatg
[19:15] <elisa87> my ubuntu desktop is totally weird after rebooting ...icons are very big...do you know what's wrong?
[19:15] <ripplebit> guys can i please get help?
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> !patience | ripplebit
[19:15] <lukecarrier> but seriously, is the person responsible for Update Manager in here so I can educate them in how not to annoy power users?
[19:15] <Esokrates> ripplebit: you have a couple of file system corruptions, btw
[19:16] <ripplebit> didn't think you guys had seen, thanks
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> lukecarrier: this is a support channel mate, discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:16] <ripplebit> Esokrates: anything i can fix?
[19:16] <Esokrates> ripplebit: it seems your fs is mounted read only
[19:16] <Esokrates> ripplebit: can you save files on /sda2?
[19:17] <lukecarrier> lotuspsychje, it's on topic; or does Canonical no longer interface with the community it intends to profit from?
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> elisa87: what happened before your reboot, did you update stuff?
[19:17] <elisa87> I just did a normal rebot
[19:17] <DJones> lukecarrier: You said you've installed from a ppa, you'll probably have to contact the ppa maintainer about a problem with that, the update manager will only do whats been set up to do in the ppa
[19:17] <ripplebit> Esokrates: er not too sure... im new to linux, so you'll have to forgive my ignorance
[19:17] <ripplebit> how can i check?
[19:17] <lukecarrier> DJones, not the PPA's fault, I already checked the packages
[19:17] <elisa87> lotuspsychje: I don't know what I should do to bring it to previous setting ...even the fonts are much larger
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> elisa87: what ubuntu version?
[19:18] <elisa87> 12.04 lotuspsychje
[19:18] <lukecarrier> same as the moronic issue with partial upgrades screwing the update manager; the UX flow is hilariously poor
[19:18] <Esokrates> ripplebit: dmesg only says: [23293.036502] mmc1: error -110 whilst initialising SD card    ... this is not particularly useful to me
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> elisa87: maybe a failsafeX might recover graphics problems
[19:19] <ripplebit> what can i give you thats more useful?
[19:19] <elisa87> lotuspsychje: how should I do that? I can't browse web very properly ..
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> elisa87: reboot and hold shift at boot to enter grub, then try recoverymode
[19:20] <elisa87> what should I do in recovery mode?
[19:20] <elisa87> what should I do in recovery mode lotuspsychje
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> elisa87: try to reset your graphics
[19:21] <Esokrates> ripplebit: the sdcard issue is complex ... there could be so many reasons
[19:21] <elisa87> I have no access to browser so if you are aware of the commands let me know! lotuspsychje
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> elisa87: its graphical for you to choose from there, no worries
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> elisa87: you might wanna check your logs aswell to see whats happening
[19:23] <Logos01> Howdy folks. I'm running an LXC container to connect to my company's internal servers via VPN. Everything's fine there -- just have one complication: my container has a 10.0.3.x address... and that is preventing me from reaching the company's <IP_ADDRESS>/24 subnet. I've googled but cannot seem to find instructions/insight on how to assign specific subnets to an lxc container.
[19:23] <Logos01> Anyone familiar with this, or can point me to docs?
[19:24] <Logos01> Oh -- Ubuntu 12.04 amd64
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> Logos01: maybe the guys from ##networking can help aswell
[19:25] <Logos01> lotuspsychje: I'm pretty sure this is specifically an lxc-configuration thing. Just need to know how to change the subnet lxc uses to assign addresses to containers.
[19:25] <Logos01> And that's often specific to the distro
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> !info lxc
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> never heard of them before :p
[19:25] <vfw> Logos01: That is a basic network problem, but the bottom line is that one or the other has to change.  I'm pretty sure that is the case.  You'll need to change the LAN's subnet, (or the other one, the destination).
[19:26] <Logos01> vfw: Yes, that's exactly right. And that's what I want to do.
[19:26] <Logos01> But I can't figure out how to do that for an lxc container on Ubuntu.
[19:26] <Esokrates> ripplebit: please post output of sudo fdisk -l
[19:26] <vfw> Logos01: That will be done on your router.
[19:26] <Logos01> No it will not.
[19:26] <vfw> Oh, lxc container... well yea,
[19:26] <Logos01> LXC is invisible to the router.
[19:27] <Logos01> (Well, it is in the default, NAT, configuration.)
[19:27] <Logos01> Was hoping someone was using LXC on Ubuntu here and could point me to the info/documentation I needed.
[19:27] <Logos01> Guess I should try #ubuntu-server
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> Logos01: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LXC
[19:28] <vfw> Not sure what to do with the LXC container. Maybe someone else can help. Yea, maybe #ubuntu-server
[19:28] <biax> Is it possible to setup ubuntu in legacy mode, setup the necessary UEFI partitions or whatever tahts necessary and then tell the bios to boot the hdd in UEFI mode?
[19:28] <mps-andruxa> называется поставил Линуху чё теперь да как никто не подскажет? а то я здесь впервые (
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | biax
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> !ru | mps-andruxa
[19:28] <Logos01> lotuspsychje: lotuspsychje I've been going over https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/lxc.html but it doesn't seem to have any info on my issue.
[19:29] <Logos01> Unfortunately /etc/init/lxc-net.conf is a non-existent file.
[19:30] <biax> so, its not possible then?
[19:31] <ripplebit> guys my laptop isn't reading my sd card, how can i fix this?
[19:31] <vfw> Logos01: Are you sure?  sudo find /etc/ -name lxc-net.conf -type f
[19:31] <lotuspsychje> ripplebit: did you try gparted to re-format your sd?
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> biax: try the url, got good info on uefi
[19:32] <mps-andruxa> есть кто из русских?
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> !ru | mps-andruxa
[19:32] <Logos01> vfw: It's an upstart job
[19:32] <Logos01> So it'd have to be in /etc/init/lxc-net.conf ... and it's considered an "optional" job at that.
[19:33] <Logos01> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/lxc.html
[19:33] <ripplebit> lotuspsychje: im not sure. i can't reformat because the SD isn't being read. this is the error that's being thrown: http://pastebin.com/562FAHPt
[19:33] <Logos01> That states that lxc defaults to the <IP_ADDRESS>/24 but doesn't give info on changing that. <_<
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted | ripplebit
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> ripplebit: if gparted cant see your sd, there might be another problem, but try it first
[19:35] <ripplebit> ah ok, ill check
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> Logos01: maybe this can help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/293275/what-is-lxc-and-how-to-get-started
[19:35] <Nvveen> Okay, I'm trying to replace Ubuntu's grub2 with Arch's, but Ubuntu keeps overwriting the data if I'm trying to reinstall the kernel images. How can I install these images without grub2?
[19:36] <GGG> okay I followed http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx  and made a bootable Ubuntu USB
[19:36] <vfw> Logos01: "Container networking in LXC is very flexible. It is triggered by the lxc.network.type configuration file entries. If no such entries exist, then the container will share the host's networking stack."
[19:36] <vfw> Logos01: Is that the case?  ^^^\
[19:36] <GGG> I started my PC laptop and choose the USB as the boot disk Ubuntu started to to run
[19:36] <GGG> and then the computer shut off
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> GGG: is that a mac laptop?
[19:37] <GGG> it won't boot with the USB and it won't boot with it out
[19:37] <GGG> no it's a PC laptop
[19:37] <GGG> Razor Blade
[19:37] <ripplebit> lotuspsychje: hmm okay, not too sure if it's listed
[19:37] <Xaro> Hey all
[19:37] <ripplebit> i dont think it is
[19:37] <GGG> now my laptop is bricked
[19:38] <vfw> Logos01: "lxc.network.ipv4 and lxc.network.ipv6 set the respective IP addresses, if those should be static."
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> GGG: did you change bios to startup usb first boot?
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> ripplebit: you can scroll drives at top of gparted, your sd dont show?
[19:38] <GGG> bios doesn't let me change the startup -- I have to press the f12 and choose it --- but now I can't even do that
[19:39] <ripplebit> lotuspsychje: ah ok, yeah its not showing. do i need to restart?
[19:39] <vfw> Logos01: What is the subnet range of the gateway router you are on?
[19:39] <ripplebit> i had to install gparted btw
[19:39] <Nvveen> In other words, how can I install the kernel images without also installing the removed grub package in Ubuntu?
[19:40] <tking> please anyone experiencing same? I have done sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping and amazon search still shows up after turning it off in privacy. Ubuntu 13.04
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> ripplebit: if its not showing it might be your sdcard slot drivers not installed properly
[19:40] <GGG> what to do now?
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> ripplebit: did you check additional drivers section?
[19:40] <vfw> Logos01: What is the host's IP?
[19:41] <Logos01> vfw: So it turns out there's another place that needs to be modified besides /etc/init/lxc-net.conf
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> GGG: you cant enter bios anymore?
[19:41] <Logos01> /etc/defaults/lxc
[19:41] <DMA> Hello. How can I find out the date of installation on an Ubuntu Server?
[19:41] <Logos01> DMA: That's not entirely possible.
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> !server | DMA
[19:41] <ripplebit> i've looked at a few sites, apparently people have been having issues with the RTxx209 realteck driver or something. where is the official page to check?
[19:41] <Logos01> The best you can do is see the oldest logfile.
[19:42] <GGG> nope the machine powers up and then goes 'clink' and shuts off -- I can't get into bios
[19:42] <DMA> Logos01: which depends on log rotation settings, so is not for sure
[19:42] <guest_zehexx> how to see open port in my ubuntu using bash?
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> ripplebit: try software&updates last tab additional drivers
[19:42] <Logos01> DMA: Indeed.
[19:42] <Logos01> Why does the date of installation matter?
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> guest_zehexx: nmap yourself for open ports
[19:43] <GGG> anyone know what to do?
[19:43] <ripplebit> it says "no proprietary drivers are in use"
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> GGG: try ##hardware maybe these guys know
[19:44] <GGG> thanks
[19:44] <elisa87> what should I do if "Size 1024x768 not found in available modes"??? all the items are too large after rebooting ...failsafex failed also
[19:44] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | elisa87
[19:44] <GGG> ##hardware channel won't let me send to channel
[19:44] <guest_zehexx> lotuspsychje sorry, i can not installed caused caused for download it my connection speed is low
[19:45] <guest_zehexx> nmap
[19:45] <guest_zehexx> but i have gufw.
[19:45]  * GGG wants to know what to do now
[19:45] <elisa87> lotuspsychje: cat: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[19:45] <elisa87>
[19:45] <ripplebit> lotuspsychje: it says "no proprietary drivers are in use"
[19:46] <mmercer> DJones: apparently old-releases does work as an actual repository, ty
[19:47] <thelamest> DMA: this could give you some idea maybe: find -type f -printf '%T+ %p\n' | sort | head -n 1000
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> GGG: if you cant enter bios, its a hardware fault, ubuntu support wont be able to help you further with this
[19:47] <DJones> mmercer: You're welcome, when I looked, I thought it was just iso's
[19:47] <mmercer> on the http side, it does look that way
[19:47] <mmercer> but just for s/gs i tested changing archive.ubuntu to old-releases in sources.list and sure enough, it worked
[19:48] <elisa87> Fatal server error:
[19:48] <elisa87> Server is already active for display 0
[19:48] <elisa87> 	If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[19:48] <elisa87> 	and start again.
[19:48] <FloodBot1> elisa87: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:48] <mmercer> a happy unexpected result
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> ripplebit: might check the vendors website indeed for sdcardslot drivers
[19:48] <GGG> so... the bootable Ubuntu USB borked the hardware?
[19:48]  * GGG is confused
[19:49] <rudolf_> hi guys
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> ripplebit: does the sd card worked on other Os?
[19:49] <rudolf_> Crowler you still there?
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> GGG: no ubuntu cant brick your laptop, what was default Os from laptop?
[19:49] <ripplebit> to be honest i've never tested it before, but i can only assume that it does
[19:49] <rudolf_> Well I finally got my usb modem working.
[19:49] <GGG> win 7
[19:49] <rudolf_> I am feeling good now. :)
[19:50] <rudolf_> Bluetooth is the last thing left.
[19:50] <rudolf_> Can anyone help me in fixing the bluetooth please?
[19:50] <lotuspsychje> GGG: you see POST booting msges?
[19:50] <rudolf_> It is not detectting any new devices.
[19:50] <newok> i'm try to use gufw
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> !ufw | newok
[19:51] <rudolf_> I try to search for new devices but it doesnt find any.
[19:52] <newok> there is, incoming and outgoing, how to setting to deny another computer copying our file?
[19:52] <newok> in gufw?
[19:53] <fdik_> Hi
[19:54] <ripplebit> lotuspsychje: this is what i need, but i don't know how to install it: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201106-8229/components/
[19:54]  * GGG dreped it was an ID10T error
[19:55]  * GGG plugged it in and it powers up -- VERY ODD timing on the USB boot and the battery to die
[19:55] <DMA> What happened to Logos0!
[19:55] <DMA> *Logos01?
[19:56] <newok> current,i'm just use browsing and chat, what are port that they use?
[19:57] <newok> browsing =  port?   ,chat = port ?
[19:57] <OerHeks> newok, freenode uses port 8001 in Xchat, in stead of the standard 6667
[19:58] <OerHeks> newok webchat uses port 80 i think
[19:59] <newok> oerheks,if i'm using xchat its mean it use 8001?,and is true (in gufw) if i'm deny all outgoing ,then i'm add allow for 8001??
[20:00] <OerHeks> newok yes
[20:01] <mmercer> whats the best guide for learning how to build packages on ubuntu ?
[20:02] <lotuspsychje> !build | mmercer
[20:02] <newok> oerheks thank you.   but if we browing using firefox, and i want to to add allow again in (guifw outgoing) ,what port that i must add for allow firefox ?
[20:03] <OerHeks> newok, as webchat uses port 80, you need nothing to do
[20:06] <newok> what port we must close to deny another computer access our file in disk?
[20:06] <newok> oerheks thxx.
[20:07] <newok> is that true if we close ftp port?
[20:07] <theadmin> newok: Uh, no other computer will be able to access your filesystem unless you have some file sharing service running
[20:07] <theadmin> newok: If you have an FTP daemon running, then it makes no sense to close the port. Simply shutdown the daemon.
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> i want to make a links2 startup icon, so it starts in terminal on a specific website, how would i create one like that?
[20:09] <mmercer> lotuspsychje: so i realize that we have a checkinstall method on fedora, but those generated packages are *not* treated as "reliable",  does ubuntu treat checkinstall builds differently (especially in ppas ) ?
[20:09] <mmercer> ie, if you put checkinstall .debs in a ppa, how reliable are they consisdered by the ubuntu community
[20:10] <DJones> mmercer: Pretty much the same, they're not considered suitable for uploading to a ppa
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> ie, ppa's are not (always) supported by the community
[20:10] <newok> theadmin thx.  but when i'm idle no do anything, why in system monitor-resources-network history in sending value is active??
[20:10] <DJones> mmercer: From https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall CheckInstall is not designed to produce packages suitable for distribution. Do not use it to produce packages intended for the Ubuntu archive or PPAs.
[20:11] <theadmin> newok: ...You need to read up how TCP/IP works, obviously some packets will be sent/received all the time just to keep the connection up for that matter
[20:11] <theadmin> newok: You can use netstat to determine if something strange's going on, but is highly unlikely. Ubuntu's quite secure.
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> mmercer  anyone could make any custom ppa, the community cannot suport all of them
[20:12] <theadmin> mmercer: Generally, not in the software center = not "reliable" as such. All depends on your trust. If you truly want your software to be recognized by the Ubuntu community, just upload it to developer.ubuntu.com -- those nice guys even do packaging and testing for you ;)
[20:13] <newok> theadmin ok,thx, i will try learning it,.
[20:13] <tgm4883> theadmin, I think that is only the case for software that is being sold for profit
[20:13] <mmercer> MonkeyDust: sure, but id imagine ubuntu isnt all that different from fedora or centos as regards to the repositories... there are plenty of us that contirbure to well known and "trusted" 3rd party repositories (they arent "official" channels, but they are still considered highly trustworthy, etc)
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> !dev > lotuspsychje
[20:14] <theadmin> tgm4883: Nay, they do any software, even free one. Open-source submissions should be done through PPAs, but even so they are still tested
[20:14] <tgm4883> theadmin, I had to package my own software, and it's still awaiting approval
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> mmercer  look at android phones, all the custom apps have corrupted the system, now people think the system is bad
[20:14] <theadmin> tgm4883: Hm, hamsters.
[20:14] <mmercer> like right now, the company im working for now uses 11.04, and the latest collectd i find in any of the repos for 11.04 is the official package of 4.2 which is *way* behind
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> mmercer: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/
[20:15] <tgm4883> mmercer, there is no 3rd party repo I know of for Ubuntu
[20:15] <Nvveen> Does anyone know how I can install the linux kernel images without grub?
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | theadmin
[20:15] <theadmin> mmercer: 11.04 is way old itself :P It's not even supported anymore
[20:15] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Um, thanks? :D
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> :p
[20:16] <tgm4883> theadmin, actually, no you can't do free applications anymore via d.u.c until they roll out the new upload process
[20:16] <mmercer> theadmin: i fully realize that, but it is what we have in place here, and i cant just randomly upgrade to 12 or 13 right now without knowing the risk to the systems
[20:16] <tgm4883> theadmin, "Thank you for submitting a gratis Free Software application through MyApps. At this time we are unable to process this request, as we are working on the implementation of a new app upload process."
[20:16] <tgm4883> theadmin, then it points you to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppDevUploadProcess
[20:16] <theadmin> tgm4883: Eh, just means you gotta wait :D
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: thats an interesting security topic to discuss
[20:17] <tgm4883> theadmin, my app has been in the queue for probably about a year now
[20:17] <theadmin> tgm4883: Eh. I really wouldn't worry, they are rolling so much new stuff out after all
[20:17] <theadmin> Phones, tablets, Mir, Unity rewrite...
[20:18] <tgm4883> theadmin, yea, that would be the problem
[20:18]  * lotuspsychje is gonna ask an ubuntu tablet to santa this year
[20:19] <skuft> <IP_ADDRESS> 8888 cxipher:MiY_e5tu9EePhohS
[20:19]  * mmercer fails to translate lotuspsychje on that one...
[20:20] <mmercer> ask an ubuntu tablet santa?
[20:20] <dhci> what is the cmd to run in a console terminal so that a text mouse cursor appears and I can copy/paste?
[20:20] <lotuspsychje> !touch | mmercer
[20:20] <soee> hi, if i do rm -rf foo (where foo is symbolic link to folder) i see no erros or other message but link is not removed, any idea why ?
[20:20] <jerry5> How can I modify Ubuntu to auto shutdown if the unlock screen password is incorrect?
[20:20] <Nvveen> Does anyone know how I can install the linux kernel images without grub?
[20:20] <mmercer> soee: permissions by chance.  you can also attempt unlink foo
[20:21] <dhci> i think its gpm or gpm2 something close to that
[20:21] <soee> mmercer, also not working
[20:21] <mjuszczak> I don't understand
[20:21] <appamatto> Did anyone have trouble after the upgrade today?
[20:21] <mmercer> soee:  are you doing it as a regular user or as sudo ?
[20:21] <mjuszczak> apt-get autoremove is saying out of space.
[20:21] <appamatto> Now Unity won't start for me
[20:21] <mjuszczak> can I manually remove older files?
[20:21] <mjuszczak> boot is at 100%
[20:21] <appamatto> And my resolution is limited to 1024x768
[20:21] <soee> mmercer, its a shared hosting and im doing it as a account owner not sudo
[20:22] <mmercer> soee: ls -la foo <-- who owns the link ?
[20:22] <soee> what is strange 2 other links were removed
[20:22] <theadmin> appamatto: Was a kernel upgrade. Hold Shift during bootup and select the older kernel, see if it helps, if it does stay on that
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> appamatto: hmmm ive just had someone with same issue
[20:22] <soee> mmercer, the group and user is mine
[20:22] <appamatto> lotuspsychje: were they able to resolve it?
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> appamatto: <elisa87> what should I do if "Size 1024x768 not found in available modes"??? all the items are too large after rebooting ...failsafex failed also
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> appamatto: try what theadmin says :p
[20:23] <appamatto> ok
[20:24] <mmercer> soee: from here, your options are things like stracing the process to see whats causing issues, and (very slightly chance) that set -x could help with verbosing output issues too
[20:24] <rubs> wow, a lot of ubuntu users!
[20:24] <SD70ACe> Hey all, I'm having some video troubles with 12.04 and a Dell Optiplex GX620 ultra small form factor.
[20:24] <lotuspsychje> rubs: welcome to the most popular distro :p
[20:24] <SD70ACe> rubs: Yes, most popular distro
[20:25] <rubs> amazing to see a lot of ubuntu users! thank you!
[20:25] <nimbiotics> Hello everyone. To begin with, I Know nothing about audio production. I installed ubuntu studio 13.04 because  I need to produce some audios for a radio show and I must be able to make phone calls through GV and record these calls, as well as be able to play some audios to the other party. Can someone please guide me or point me in the right direction? TIA!
[20:27] <jerry5> rubs, yeah and it isn't even th emost popular linux dist
[20:27] <theadmin> jerry5: It is, technically, at least on the desktop
[20:28] <SD70ACe> probably not in the server market though
[20:28] <DJones> nimbiotics: I can't help with the problem, but you may also get help in the Ubuntu Studio channel, #ubuntustudio It might be a fairly quiet channel and could take a while for a response
[20:28] <jerry5> theadmin, according to some sources it's not the most popular desktop. mint is more popular now
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> jerry5  no, mint has the most hits in search engines, blogs etc, but is not the most used
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> jerry5: i bet there are more boxes running in the world then any distro
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu boxes that is
[20:29] <theadmin> jerry5: Eh, I strongly doubt it, considering Mint is a major annoyance and is quite buggy too, at least last I checked broke on me all the time
[20:29] <clcto> archlinux has prolly 1/10th the users of ubuntu, but just about as many in irc. now thats a community
[20:29] <jerry5> theadmin, valid points
[20:29] <nimbiotics> DJones: i'm also in that channel, but its been dead since this morning at least, nobody seems to awake
[20:30] <DJones> nimbiotics: ok, I thought it might have been a quiet channel
[20:30]  * tgm4883 reminds everyone to keep things on topic
[20:30] <theadmin> anyways, be right back
[20:30] <appamatto> Hmm, booted <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:31] <appamatto> But that doesn't seem to help
[20:31] <ur0pl> hi
[20:31] <ur0pl> ubuntu does not automount my fat32  usb external drive
[20:31] <ur0pl> wtf
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> appamatto: did your update change your graphics driver perhaps?
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> !polite | ur0pl
[20:32] <appamatto> lotuspsychje: I'm trying to reinstall the nvidia driver
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> appamatto: good luck :p
[20:33] <nimbiotics> DJones: veeery quite indeed .. more than that, boring. Actually dead. I've beedn there since this morning and haven't received a single answer, except for a comment from someone who left immediately :)
[20:33] <lotuspsychje> ur0pl: did you try format your device with gparted?
[20:33] <ur0pl> oh
[20:33] <ur0pl> i see
[20:33] <ur0pl> fdisk -l doesn't even list the drive as being plugged in
[20:34] <tgm4883> ur0pl, what is the output of 'dmesg'
[20:35] <ur0pl> naturally, my usb cable was not plugged into the motherboard
[20:35] <ur0pl> anyeways
[20:35] <ur0pl> i was wondering
[20:35] <ur0pl> is there something  gui that can mount cifs window shares?
[20:35] <ur0pl> or even list the shares that have a different password
[20:36] <SD70ACe> Hey all, I'm having some video troubles with 12.04 and a Dell Optiplex GX620 ultra small form factor.
[20:36] <appamatto> I'm a little confused why X will start but Unity won't
[20:36] <lotuspsychje> appamatto: maybe your logs can clear your problem out?
[20:37] <BluesKaj> ur0pl, ntfs-3g installed
[20:37] <BluesKaj> ?
[20:37] <MojoPikon> SD70ACe: Can you be more specific? =)
[20:38] <SD70ACe> MojoPikon: The resolution won't go over 1024x768 with a DVI to VGA adapter.  Also any 3d apps like openarena fail.  Its got an Intel GMA950
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> appamatto: the girl who got same issue, had same trouble after a reboot
[20:39] <appamatto> Is there some other driver I could try?
[20:39] <appamatto> Right now installing nvidia-current complains about not finding the source
[20:40] <appamatto> Even thought the source package is installed...
[20:40] <mjuszczak> My boot is at 96%:
[20:40] <mjuszczak> /dev/sda1                    228M  206M   11M  96% /boot
[20:40] <mjuszczak> how can I free up space?  apt-get autoremove doesn't seem to want to do anything.
[20:40] <ur0pl> is there something to help browse what window shares i have?
[20:40] <ur0pl> on my other box
[20:41] <ur0pl> like the names of them
[20:41] <clcto> what is in /boot?
[20:41] <lotuspsychje> mjuszczak: ubuntu-wteak can do some nice system cleanings aswell
[20:41] <lotuspsychje> tweak
[20:41] <clcto> ur0pl: with cifs? idk, i guess samba works but not sure
[20:41] <MojoPikon> SD70ACe: I've used in my university some months ago the same computer with the same video hardware using a VGA monitor and it works flawless … And I think it used exactly that driver
[20:42] <MojoPikon> SD70ACe: at 1280x1024
[20:42] <bgardner> ur0pl: smbclient -L servername
[20:43] <SD70ACe> MojoPikon: I don't know, its just refusing to work right, I have it hooked up to a display that I used to run hooked to my ubuntu netbook and ran 1360x768, plus both open arena and openBVE won't run at all
[20:43] <appamatto> How can I switch to nouveau?
[20:43] <ur0pl> bgardner, thank you
[20:43] <lotuspsychje> appamatto: did you check software&updates in last tab additional drivers?
[20:44] <chuy_> hi all
[20:45] <appamatto> lotuspsychje: where is that?
[20:45] <clcto> o/
[20:45] <SD70ACe> MojoPikon: it won't drive the display past 1024x768, it only shows the generic VGA modes
[20:45] <appamatto> lotuspsychje: oh okay I found it
[20:45] <samgabbay> how do i make my ubuntu distro faster
[20:45] <mjuszczak> clcto: http://pastebin.com/2jbXr9uX
[20:46] <clcto> dont use pastebin.com
[20:46] <tgm4883> clcto, what is wrong with pastebin.com?
[20:46] <chuy_> i have problem whit lightdm,i installed webkit theme but show me this can't load directory /usr/share/lightdm/themes/pretty permission denied
[20:46] <clcto> mjuszczak: you have so many old kernels in there, get rid of them
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> samgabbay: install an ssd drive
[20:47] <MojoPikon> SD70ACe: http://askubuntu.com/questions/143151/12-04-is-not-detecting-onboard-intel-gma-950-need-to-install-driver-manually Seems like it needs some tweaking… may be the units on my university have a slightly different version of the chipset, or they manually added a driver package
[20:47] <mjuszczak> clcto: thanks.  I figured they'd auto remove.
[20:47] <mjuszczak> clcto: what's wrong with pastebin?
[20:48] <clcto> tgm4883: ads, captcha, adds whitespace, etc
[20:48] <clcto> gist.github.com is my go to, but ubuntu has its own
[20:48] <vfw> mjuszczak: Use apt-get to remove them...
[20:49] <tgm4883> clcto, I've not seen any evidence of it adding whitespace, everything else you mentioned isn't a reason tell someone not to use it
[20:49] <mjuszczak> thanks
[20:49] <clcto> !flood
[20:49] <mjuszczak> Gotcha, thank you,
[20:49] <vfw> mjuszczak: There is nothing wrong with pastebin
[20:49] <clcto> tgm4883: why when there are better options
[20:50] <thatguy37> Good evening #ubuntu
[20:50] <appamatto> lotuspsychje: I guess that didn't work
[20:50] <tgm4883> clcto, you haven't shown that there are better options.
[20:50] <bgardner> thatguy37: Hello
[20:50] <chuy_>  i have problem whit lightdm,i installed webkit theme but show me this can't load directory /usr/share/lightdm/themes/pretty permission denied anybody help me i really apreciate
[20:51] <clcto> tgm4883: i clearly said gist.github.com which allows annotating, and that ubuntu has their own
[20:51] <thatguy37> I am about to partition and format a new RAID5 array, and am not sure what to set my stride and stripe at. I gather that one should match my RAID striping, but what is the other?
[20:51] <appamatto> Should I have KMS enabled or disabled?
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> !raid | thatguy37
[20:52] <foutasse> bonsoir
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> !fr | foutasse
[20:53] <vfw> chuy_: ls -l /usr/share/lightdm/themes/pretty  #What does it say?
[20:54] <appamatto> Is there any way to get back to the original xorg settings?
[20:54] <joelwallis> Hi. The two-finger scrolling of my Dell Vostro isn't working. What can I do to get it working again?
[20:55] <clcto> synclient -h
[20:55] <joelwallis> I mean, it never worked with Ubuntu, but in Windows it works fine.
[20:55] <vfw> appamatto: What did you have before?
[20:56] <clcto> joelwallis: you can enable it with synclient TwoFingerVertScroll=1 or something like that
[20:56] <joelwallis> The Ubuntu 13.04's two-finger scrolling work fine in my other notebook, HP.
[20:56] <joelwallis> clcto: synclient is a CLI tool?
[20:56] <clcto> joelwallis: yes it is
[20:56] <Spr1ng> So very impressed by the simplicity of UFW :P
[20:56] <thatguy37> lotuspsychje: Thanks for the links, but they are all specific to RAID creation, I need help with filesystem layout
[20:57] <lkimmie> i'm a bit confused about ubuntu, does anyone have a link to a very simplified tutorial?
[20:57] <vfw> lkimmie: About _______________ ?
[20:57] <appamatto> How do I turn on KMS?
[20:57] <lotuspsychje> lkimmie: about what
[20:57] <appamatto> I think I disabled it for the nvidia blob
[20:57] <joelwallis> clcto: I got "Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?". How can I install the Synaptics?
[20:57] <ur0pl> how do i list what ips are connected in my lan?
[20:57] <joelwallis> lkimmie: what are you confused about?
[20:57] <clcto> lkimmie: what is confusing you, someone here can probably help
[20:58] <thatguy37> ur0pl: On your router configuration page, there is usually a way to see connected clients
[20:58] <clcto> joelwallis: not sure
[20:58] <ur0pl> okay
[20:58] <ur0pl> thanks
[20:58] <joelwallis> clcto: ok, thanks. ill search arround..
[20:58] <joelwallis> clcto++
[20:58] <thatguy37> ur0pl: if not, a program called nmap will work to show you hosts that allow ping requests
[20:58] <vfw> lkimmie: https://help.ubuntu.com/
[20:58] <lkimmie> starting a new internship, requires very basic knowledge about linux. my advisor told me to download ubuntu
[20:58] <lotuspsychje> lkimmie: there are also good Free ubuntu ebooks on the internet
[20:58] <melow01> Partitioning a new Ubuntu server and the default is "Use entire disk and setup LVM"
[20:59] <melow01> Is that the preferred config?
[20:59] <melow01> Or should I just choose "use entire disk"?
[20:59] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | melow01
[20:59] <genii> lkimmie: https://help.ubuntu.com/ is a good starting point.
[20:59] <SonikkuAmerica> melow01: If you wish to blow out the whole hard disk, yes.
[20:59] <joelwallis> lkimmie: ubuntu is a linux which is easy to use, everything works fine and you have all the goodies of using a linux operational system.
[20:59] <vfw> lkimmie: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[21:00] <melow01> SonikkuAmerica, true
[21:00] <joelwallis> forget about antivirus and shits of windows.
[21:00] <appamatto> does anyone know how to change the KMS settings?
[21:00] <SonikkuAmerica> !flavors | lkimmie, there are also other DEs you can get stock with Ubuntu
[21:00] <SD70ACe> if your hardware is supported -_-
[21:00] <SonikkuAmerica> lkimmie: There's also Ubuntu GNOME.
[21:00] <erwin> guys how can i remove the 3rd part application whichi sinstalled to opt directory
[21:00] <vfw> lkimmie: (I use xubuntu.)
[21:00] <vfw> erwin: apt-get
[21:01] <SonikkuAmerica> lkimmie: (I use Ubuntu GNOME.)
[21:01] <erwin> i installed it from *.run file
[21:01] <vfw> erwin: Oh...
[21:02] <erwin> i installed qt5.run
[21:02] <vfw> erwin: What did you install?
[21:02] <vfw> erwin: Why?
[21:02] <erwin> why not
[21:03] <erwin> i wanted to try it
[21:03] <MrSnat> Hi
[21:04] <vfw> erwin: Why not use the package management system?  (A rhetorical question...)
[21:04] <erwin> vfw, in package system only qt4 does exist
[21:05] <ur0pl> smbclient -L -U myusername <IP_ADDRESS> mypassword does ntow ork
[21:06] <SpaceManiac> does the Disk Usage Analyzer tool not report hidden files or anything like that?
[21:07] <vfw> erwin: Well, answering your original question is a bit difficult, (there is not a systematic approach to uninstalling software that is not installed via the package management system).
[21:11] <melow01> will Ubuntu Server have drivers installed for audio i/o?
[21:12] <erwin> vfw, i removed the whole directory in /opt
[21:12] <vfw> erwin: Ok, there you go....
[21:13] <erwin> i hope the run file did not install aything to other directories
[21:13] <erwin> if it did , it is almost impossible for me to trace the installed files
[21:15] <appamatto> Yeeeeeessss!! I is happy! nvidia driver now works. Now I need to figure out why Unity isn't starting
[21:15] <SD70ACe> appamatto: because it unity
[21:16] <vfw> appamatto: Do you have a Desktop Evnironment at all?
[21:17] <vfw> appamatto: ... If so, which one?
[21:20] <Norrin> what's with this pc & mac images?
[21:20] <Norrin> http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/
[21:20] <Norrin> why have this and say nothing about what the difference is in the page
[21:20] <Norrin> ?
[21:21] <zykotick9> Norrin: if YOU don't know if you have a mac or a pc.  i doubt any explanation on ubuntu site will help...
[21:21] <sam113101> is it gray?
[21:21] <Norrin> zykotick9, did i ask that?  i asked what the diff is in teh images
[21:21] <sam113101> can you open it?
[21:21] <mmercer> anyone happen to know what package provides -lkvm under ubuntu ?
[21:22]  * mmercer has tried to find libkvm via apt-cache, auto-apt, apt-file... and is failing
[21:22] <zykotick9> Norrin: one is for PCs, the other is for Macs...  ahhh, i'm not sure they can make that clearer...
[21:22] <Norrin> zykotick9, there has never been such a distinction before.  so why now?
[21:22] <Norrin> in short, what's teh difference?
[21:23] <vfw> Norrin: What do you mean?  There has always been a difference.
[21:23] <Norrin> never seen a mac ubuntu image before
[21:23] <MojoPikon> Norrin: Mac computers have special requirements for booting ISO images, so they add some tweaks for they to boot Ubuntu correctly.
[21:24] <Norrin> MojoPikon, it's meant to run on bare metal or something?
[21:24] <MystaMax> wow
[21:24] <Norrin> MojoPikon, any idea which is best for a vm?
[21:24] <vfw> Norrin: I do not think anyone understands what you are really trying to find out.  What exactly do you want to do?
[21:25] <Norrin> what. is. the. difference?
[21:25] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know winconn?
[21:25] <Norrin> "it says mac" is not sufficient
[21:25] <alanwevans> anyone ever run into a problem where resolvconf isn't updating /etc/resolv.conf on boot, but manually ifdown/ifup an interface updates it just fine
[21:25] <mojtaba> Is it the ultimate solution? or is there any better equivalent?
[21:25] <vfw> Norrin: You want to know what the differences between the Mac ISO and the PC ISO?
[21:25] <Norrin> given i always installed the basic image before no problems.   so why all of a sudden a mac image?
[21:26] <Norrin> vfw, yes
[21:26] <MojoPikon> norrin: For vm's, ubuntu jeos is a good option. It has a smaller footprint than standard ones. https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html
[21:26] <sam113101> I wish I had a mac
[21:26] <vfw> Norrin: Let us ask you this question:  Do you have a Mac or a PC (that you want to install Ubuntu on)?
[21:26] <Norrin> vfw, "on" is relative.  i'm installing in a vm on a mac host
[21:27] <Norrin> from what MojoPikon, sounds like this mac image is for bare metal
[21:27] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know winconn? Is it the ultimate solution? or is there any better equivalent?
[21:27] <Norrin> sure would be nice if it said all this on teh download page.....
[21:28] <Bauer> I once followed some tutorial to install Java 64bit from Sun and not OpenJDK, but how do I remove it? I wanna try normal java again
[21:28] <MojoPikon> norring: if you don't need the desktop, Ubuntu JeOS is better for vm's, as i've said. It is intended for virtual appliances.
[21:28] <Norrin> vfw, why a mac image.   if i know what's diff about it i can answer my own question
[21:28] <Norrin> hence i started with "what's different about it?"
[21:28] <vfw> Norrin: Simple: If you have a Mac, you use the Mac ISO.  If you have a PC, you use the regular PC ISO.  You have a Mac, so use the Mac ISO.
[21:28] <Norrin> vfw, there's nothing simple about that.  what's different in the image?
[21:29] <vfw> Norrin: There are a lot of differences, (not just one).
[21:29] <Norrin> notice,  i didn't ask which one to use.   what is teh difference?
[21:29] <MojoPikon> Norrin: Drivers. kernel parameters and EFI files. Things like that.
[21:29] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know winconn? Is it the ultimate solution? or is there any better equivalent?
[21:30] <Norrin> cool.  so i'm goign with the standard image.
[21:30] <Norrin> bare metal ish
[21:30] <Norrin> vfw, in the end, so "it's so simple" answer seems to have been wrong.  congratz
[21:30] <vfw> !mac | Norrin
[21:31] <MystaMax> Norrin: this link answers your question specifically: http://askubuntu.com/a/40480/859
[21:31] <jerry5> How can I modify Ubuntu to auto shutdown if the unlock screen password is incorrect?
[21:31] <zykotick9> Bauer: when you install out-of-repo software, you need to use whatever method 'that software' uses to remove... it's a bad idea in general to use out-of-repo stuff IMO
[21:31] <mojtaba> hello?
[21:32] <Nvveen> Can anyone tell me how to install the kernel images without installing grub2 (I removed it)?
[21:32] <Norrin> vfw from your own link: "try your VM's support area. Running Ubuntu in a VM is completely different than running Ubuntu "on your Mac". "
[21:32] <zykotick9> jerry5: that's a security hole you're asking to open?  i hope you can't!  (that would let non-admin users shut off a machine)
[21:32] <Norrin> my whole point, vfw
[21:32] <Norrin> vfw, and, nothing on that page about the mac vs the pc image
[21:32] <jerry5> zykotick9, no, i want to code screen lock to auto shutdown
[21:33] <jerry5> zykotick9, not looking for a way around Ubuntu, but to modify it
[21:33] <zykotick9> jerry5: ya, that that's bad....  cya.
[21:33] <Bauer> zykotick9: well I had no choice, I must get Junpier SSL-VPN working in Ubuntu 13.04 64 bit which is not trivial at all :( I still dont have it working
[21:33] <zykotick9> s/that that's/and that's/
[21:33] <appamatto> vfw, I have a unity-looking environment but without any of the panels
[21:33] <vfw> Norrin: Show me the link.
[21:33] <appamatto> So I assumed this means unity didn't start
[21:33] <appamatto> Is there a log I should look in?
[21:33] <vfw> appamatto: I use xfce
[21:33] <Norrin> [14:30:51] <vfw>	 !mac | Norrin
[21:33] <Norrin> [14:30:51] <ubottu>	 Norrin: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[21:33] <Norrin> vfw, ^
[21:34] <zykotick9> Bauer: well good luck with that... if it's not in ubuntu's repo, it's technically OT in #ubuntu... just sayin'
[21:34] <Nvveen> Anyone?
[21:35] <f47fuk> .dal.net
[21:35] <vfw> Norrin: Follow the appropriate download link.
[21:35] <Norrin> vfw, and, nothing on that page about the mac vs the pc image
[21:36] <Bauer>   zykotick9  which is why, I am asking how to get rid of everything from that OT repo, so that I can try the normal java again
[21:36] <Norrin> MystaMax, thanks!
[21:36] <vfw> Norrin: Well, I suppose they neglected to state the obvious.
[21:36] <Norrin> MojoPikon, thanks!
[21:36] <Norrin> vfw, if its so obvious why were you wrong?
[21:37] <zykotick9> Bauer1: you should be asking whoever you got that java from... but maybe someone here knows?  good luck.
[21:37] <vfw> Norrin: About?
[21:37] <MojoPikon> Norin: yw =)
[21:37] <Norrin> vfw, about the mac image being needed for macs in all situations
[21:37] <Norrin> no that fn simple
[21:37] <Bauer> zykotick9: well, it should be pretty standard procedure to remove 3rd party PPA stuff, no?
[21:38] <Norrin> like i assumed
[21:38] <MystaMax> Norrin: I'd just use the regular ubuntu image to install ubuntu inside a virtual machine. Only use the mac image on bare metal installs
[21:39] <Norrin> MystaMax, yeah that's what i'm going with
[21:39] <zykotick9> Bauer: if it was from a PPA use ppa-purge (or something very similarly named!)
[21:39] <zykotick9> !ppa-purge | Bauer
[21:41] <WILLdude> Hello. I've just installed ubuntu, after Windows 7. My PC just boots to windows 7 though. What can I do?
[21:41] <AndrewEagle> Hello
[21:41] <vfw> WILLdude:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[21:42] <AndrewEagle> WILLdude: try to reinstall grub
[21:42] <zykotick9> !ppa | Bauer pay particular attention to the warning here.  good luck man.
[21:42] <Bauer> thanks zykotick9 , but how do I find out the correct repository name?
[21:42] <WILLdude> I kinda wanted to use the W7 Bootloader, and AFAIK, it sh
[21:42] <zykotick9> Bauer: not 100% but check output of "apt-cache policy THEPACKAGENAME" perhaps?
[21:43] <daftykins> WILLdude: i heard once that you can edit the Windows bootloader to pass on to GRUB, maybe there's a guide online
[21:43] <vfw> WILLdude:  You can if you want to, but we only have ubuntu support here.
[21:43] <zykotick9> Bauer: didn't you say you used a .run file though, or it installed to /opt?
[21:43] <AndrewEagle> Have anyone compiled android from sources? I've just compiled and don't know how to launch it in emulator :-)
[21:44] <vfw> WILLdude: But it's easier to just use grub
[21:44] <WILLdude> Yeah.
[21:44] <daftykins> AndrewEagle: that's not support for Ubuntu i'm afraid.
[21:44] <Bauer> zykotick9:  is that right? 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu/ raring/main amd64 Packages
[21:44] <zykotick9> Bauer: that would "make sense", but i can't really know....  no personal experience in this matter.
[21:45] <zykotick9> Bauer: i'd guess ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu/ is what ppa-purge is looking for?  just a guess though.
[21:46] <zykotick9> Bauer: if above fails, try just ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team
[21:47] <duelle> Hi there, I'm trying to set up my old notebook as a server (for testing purposes only). The only problem is that my wifi connection doesn't work. While installing it worked just fine, but now it seems to do nothing at all. I'm using a Intel abg3945 (iwl3945).
[21:47] <AndrewEagle> daftykins: what is not support? I've already compiled on Ubuntu. And ubuntu nicely support android develop and emulators. I just don't know what to do with 9GB output folder appeared after compilation :-)
[21:48] <vfw> duelle: WHat does iwconfig say?
[21:48] <rubs> you guys are the best!
[21:49] <duelle> vfw: Nothing at all -,- just displays mac, the rest is empty or zero..
[21:50] <vfw> duelle: Nothing at all?  Well, it shows the mac address, right?  Is it only one line of output?  (If not, how many?)
[21:50] <duelle> vfw: I just meant that there is no more information. The other lines are displayed, but theres no contetn (6 lines)
[21:51] <duelle> ok, in addition there is UP BROADCAST MULTICAST
[21:51] <daftykins> AndrewEagle: what i mean is, this channel isn't for helping you to use your computer, it's only for supporting Ubuntu users with Ubuntu problems
[21:51] <vfw> duelle: So what is the wifi device designated as?  wlan0  eth0 eth1 ....?
[21:51] <duelle> vfw: wlan0
[21:52] <Winogronko> test
[21:52] <genii> !test | Winogronko
[21:52] <vfw> duelle: iwlist wlan0 scan
[21:54] <AndrewEagle> daftykins: sure. I hoped someone know about that.
[21:54] <duelle> vfw: that works too, I can see my and several other APs. The point is, that it once worked fine (eg. while installing)
[21:54] <vfw> duelle: iwconfig wlan0 essid <essid-here> ; dhclient wlan0 or ifconfig wlan0 192.168.x.x ; route add default gw 192.168.x.x ; etc. etc.
[21:55] <vfw> duelle: In other words, set the essid and the other settings as per your LAN netowrk configuration
[21:56] <duelle> vfw: May it be a problem when the essid contains special characters (e.g. like the exclamation mark in "FRITZ!Box")?
[21:58] <vfw> duelle: Yea, use quotes
[21:59] <vfw> duelle: iwconfig with no arguments will show you the essid
[21:59] <Guest38463> hi all, need a help with touchpad mouse... just dont works
[21:59] <duelle> vfw: I just saw in /etc/network/interfaces that all these information are set there (netmask, gateway, wpa-ssid, wpa-psk). and iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[22:00] <Guest38463> seems to be something on evdev...
[22:05] <Guest38463> problem with touchpad and evdev here... please help
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> what's evdev?
[22:08] <duelle> vfw: Even after the install it sometimes worked and after rebooting no connection at all .. at first I thought that it was the installation of bind, cuz it worked after its uninstall. After reboot - same thing again. No connection at all:/
 vfw: Even after the install it some
[22:08] <BabyCat> hey folks, having ubuntu 12.04 networking problems. I've narrowed down to some really strange things having to do with the operating system itself..
[22:08] <BabyCat>  I use VPN, privoxy, browser plugins for security (no script and ghostery).. so I turn all this off and look to see what the problem is.. I get
[22:09] <vfw> duelle: What version of ubuntu do you have installed?  12.04?
[22:09] <Bauer> zykotick9: do you know where can I buy paid professional help getting the VPN working in Ubuntu? I really need it for work, and my time is more expensive... I know it is possible to set up, it has to be
[22:09] <duelle> vfw: 13.04 server
[22:10] <vfw> duelle: Is it completely updated?
[22:10] <daftykins> BabyCat: 'problem is.. get' ...?
[22:10] <BabyCat> hey folks, having ubuntu 12.04 networking problems. I've narrowed down to some really strange things having to do with the operating system itself..
[22:10] <BabyCat>  I use VPN, privoxy, browser plugins for security (no script and ghostery).. so I turn all this off and look to see what the problem is..  Ubuntu kicks me off the internet.. does this sound like anyone's problem? Everyone using windows and Macintosh around me are happy and loving their internet but I'm not..
[22:10] <duelle> vfw: yes, did an update when connection worked.
[22:10] <FloodBot1> BabyCat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:11] <BabyCat> sorry folks, internet connection's bad and I don't know whether it's working at any point..
[22:11] <BabyCat> or posting here.. not trying to flood
[22:12] <zykotick9> Bauer: no clue.
[22:12] <MonkeyDust> Bauer  http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[22:13] <vfw> duelle: lspci |grep ireless
[22:13] <vfw> duelle: (show us.)
[22:14] <daftykins> BabyCat: pastebin it instead or something. pasting an essay isn't going to work
[22:14] <G55321> hello guys! I wanted to upgrade my server to 12.04 from 10.04.4 and wanted to know if its safe
[22:14] <duelle> vfw: 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[22:14] <BabyCat> so key problem is I get internet connection for a few minutes then I have to turn off and on the connection to get it back and if I go to Eli the Computer Guy, the site that I'm trying to learn linux from, I end up having to restart the entire systm to get the internet back
[22:14] <BabyCat> and I have to do this over and over again to keep the connection
[22:14] <BabyCat> only difference, I moved.. but I updated the IP address on everything networking.. and it worked here fine for a few days and now this..
[22:14] <G55321> currently server is in production running a Samba file server
[22:14] <Bauer> MonkeyDust: it leades to http://www.ubuntu.com/management/features which is not quite the professional help I look for to get the VPN up and running...
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> G55321  it's safe, or it would be useless
[22:14] <daftykins> G55321: as safe as any upgrades in computing. back up and give it a try if you're sure you want to do it
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> Bauer  maybe contact Canonical, see below on the page
[22:15] <BabyCat> so key problem is I get internet connection for a few minutes then I have to turn off and on the connection to get it back and if I go to Eli the Computer Guy, the site that I'm trying to learn linux from, I end up having to restart the entire systm to get the internet back and I have to do this over and over again to keep the connection only difference, I moved.. but I updated the IP address on everything networking.. and it worked here fine for a few day
[22:15] <BabyCat> s and now this..
[22:16] <BabyCat> sorry again chat master, Ubuntu kicked me off again, not sure what went through..
[22:16] <G55321> oh yeah of course I have backup...but since its a file server I wouldn't want to restore a ~1tb backup :D
[22:16] <vfw> duelle: How many kernels do you have?
[22:16] <BabyCat> and of course, I lose response messages when Ubuntu loses the connection..
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> G55321  you can easily upgrade from LTS to LTS
[22:17] <duelle> vfw: not sure, but I think 2-3 should be there
[22:17] <daftykins> BabyCat: so you're typing from the affected PC?
[22:17] <BabyCat> I'm a ubuntu only on my box..
[22:17] <BabyCat> that's what I'm thinking
[22:17] <vfw> duelle: Try earlier one(s)
[22:17] <BabyCat> I keep getting viruses over and over again on this ubuntu.. I've wiped and reloaded 3 times over the last couple months
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> a virus in linux? how exciting!
[22:18] <BabyCat> yes I am
[22:18] <BabyCat> hmm.. U'd love this box.. ha ha ha
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> BabyCat  what makes you think you have a virus?
[22:19] <duelle> 3.8.(0).23 seems to work for now
[22:19] <BabyCat> reason I think it's a virus is because.. why does the networking get permanently harmed off a specific youtube (eli the computer guy) channel
[22:19] <daftykins> lol.
[22:20] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: oh you can totally have this one XD
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> BabyCat  i havent read anything anywhere about a virus, so it must be something else
[22:20] <BabyCat> otherwise, all I have to do is restart the router.. there's a Mac and Windows computers running here too.. everyone enjoying their computers but me
[22:20] <cheese1756> Has anyone had any success with installing Ubuntu on a Vaio Pro?
[22:20] <genii> Probably some horribly encoded video.
[22:20] <daftykins> cheese1756: didn't those only just get announced?
[22:20] <BabyCat> and also, everything worked fine with all my settings for 3 days here and suddenly stopped.. for no reason..
[22:20] <duelle> vfw: <IP_ADDRESS> works for now, but I am quite sceptic whether that is the point.. Sometimes it worked even with that kernel as far as i can remember
[22:20] <cheese1756> daftykins, Yes. Unfortunately, I can't find any documentation yet
[22:20] <cheese1756> But they're available
[22:20] <BabyCat> and it started with Eli the Computer Guy Youtube page
[22:21] <mmercer> BabyCat: have you watched the log messages to see whats going on when you lose your networking?
[22:21] <mmercer> have you watched your ethtool and miitool statistics?
[22:21] <mmercer> ( now granted, youre trying to learn linux, so its actually expected that you have no idea what im talking about ), but to jump to virus.... stop thinking youre on windows. ;)
[22:21] <daftykins> cheese1756: i'd imagine you'll come up against the usual Secure Boot UEFI issues?
[22:22] <cheese1756> daftykins, That's one issue I found, yes
[22:22] <cheese1756> I'm tempted to just flip it into legacy BIOS mode
[22:22] <EDocToor> I am backkkkkkkkk ,,,, hehe
[22:22] <daftykins> cheese1756: are you trying 13.04 ?
[22:22] <vfw> duelle: (I use LTS.)
[22:22] <cheese1756> daftykins, Yup
[22:23] <subman> When trying to upgrade, I'm getting the following errors:  http://pastebin.ca/2399035.  I've tried apt-get -f install to fix and it just spits out these same errors.  Is there a way to fix this?
[22:23] <daftykins> cheese1756: are you attempting a dualboot or just nuking - presumably windows 8 - off of there?
[22:23] <cheese1756> Still, I just get a blank screen after the "Try Ubuntu" and "Install Ubuntu" menu
[22:23] <cheese1756> daftykins, Preferably nuking Windows 8
[22:23] <daftykins> cheese1756: has that laptop got graphics by nvidia or ATI?
[22:23] <daftykins> s/ATI/AMD/ must get used to that renaming
[22:23] <cheese1756> daftykins, Nope, integrated Intel, which is a good sign
[22:23] <cheese1756> That's also what throws me off
[22:24] <daftykins> cheese1756: tried booting with 'nomodeset' for fun?
[22:24] <cheese1756> daftykins, I will
[22:24] <cheese1756> That's a good call
[22:24] <EDocToor> cheese1756, I also have a blank screen on one of my boxes after I installed standard Ubuntu.. I don't recall but.. I think I had to add noapic to the grub..
[22:24] <duelle> vfw: would you recommend to use a LTS server version? didn't know that there could be such problems (cuz it worked several versions before without any problems)?
[22:25] <EDocToor> somehow
[22:25] <vfw> yes
[22:25] <tylerehome> Is there any way to get pulseaudio to output to a digital output continuously? I'm playing via SP/DIF and it seems to be dropping the transport stream when nothing is using sound...which is annoying as it then takes several seconds for my receiver to realize there is sound again when I paly something
[22:25] <duelle> vfw: ok, thanks a lot for your help! Then I'll get a lts version and give it a try :)
[22:26] <MystaMax> duelle: what about booting off a live cd image of 13.04 (or 12.04) and seeing if its works there? you can test everything without messing anything up
[22:27] <cheese1756> Found a problem! "Secure boot forbids loading module" when running "help" in grub
[22:27] <daftykins> tylerehome: i've had that issue for years :( unless you had something playing silence in the background constantly i can't see any way
[22:28] <cheese1756> I thought the Ubuntu images were signed?
[22:28] <daftykins> cheese1756: oh so secure boot is somehow still enabled within your UEFI?
[22:28] <cheese1756> daftykins, I guess so. Time to fix that
[22:28] <daftykins> cheese1756: tbh every UEFI implementation is buggy as anything i've noticed at the moment. i had to update a friends laptop BIOS just to let it boot its' own Windows version in EFI mode to reinstall it ¬_¬
[22:28] <EDocToor> Is there a Whatsmyip command from the command line or do I have to grep ifconfig
[22:28] <daftykins> EDocToor: ifconfig *is* the whatsmyip command ;)
[22:29] <EDocToor> daftykins, ok.. just wondering thanks
[22:30] <cheese1756> The USB stick is being accessed far more. This is promising
[22:30] <daftykins> cheese1756: i'll cross my toes for ya
[22:30] <cheese1756> It's a load of BS that secureboot just fails silently, though, rather than giving a proper error for troubleshooting
[22:31] <cheese1756> daftykins, I appreciate that
[22:31] <daftykins> ^_^
[22:31] <daftykins> cheese1756: well, you'd have to boot without 'quiet' from the menu to get proper debug
[22:31] <cheese1756> daftykins, I usually disable the splash anyway. I might restart and do that
[22:32] <Magicarp> Is it possible to control the speed of a case fan via terminal? So I could put it at X RPM?
[22:34] <daftykins> Magicarp: is your system too old to run it automatically based on temperature?
[22:34] <cheese1756> So, I got all the way to conflicting drivers between an EFI version and a non-EFI version. I'll just flip things to legacy BIOS
[22:34] <cheese1756> Let's see how this goes
[22:35] <LeonIsNEw> okay so idk whatswrong with my new build
[22:35] <LeonIsNEw> all of my stuff is powering up but nothing is posting
[22:35] <LeonIsNEw> ubuntu does not even load and i dont even get a posting
[22:35] <cheese1756> LeonIsNEw, If there's no post, that doesn't sound like an Ubuntu problem
[22:35] <LeonIsNEw> yeaqh i know but
[22:36] <cheese1756> Check your hardware. Maybe something is not connected properly?
[22:36] <cheese1756> Is this your first build?
[22:36] <LeonIsNEw> \idk what i am suppose to do to make it post
[22:36] <LeonIsNEw> and yes
[22:36] <cheese1756> LeonIsNEw, Confirm that all components are plugged in properly. Often, a cable being unplugged can really screw things up
[22:37] <LeonIsNEw> i have everything plugged in right, all the fans turn on and the hdd spins and stuff
[22:37] <LeonIsNEw> and i dont know how to chck if they are in all the right way
[22:37] <Magicarp> Ask in #hardware
[22:37] <LeonIsNEw> everything powers up but, nothing posts
[22:38] <cheese1756> So, I flipped to BIOS boot and that still froze. If I'm debugging something, I'd rather debug UEFI. Onto fixing those issues.
[22:39] <daftykins> cheese1756: i know it's a ridiculous thought with such new hardware, but try looking on Sony's site for any BIOS updates anyway?
[22:39] <daftykins> LeonIsNEw: ok the best advice i can give you for your first build that doesn't POST, is to reduce the hardware down to the very bare essentials, you follow?
[22:40] <daftykins> LeonIsNEw: so you don't need any hard disks connected, no CD/DVD, just PSU into motherboard, CPU, RAM and graphics card if you have one. that's all
[22:40] <LeonIsNEw> i have no cd and no hdd
[22:40] <cheese1756> daftykins, I don't believe there are any yet. Boot sticks at "fb: conflictnig fb hw usage inteldrmfb vs EFI VGA - removing generic driver"
[22:40] <cheese1756> That's where it freezes
[22:41] <daftykins> cheese1756: hrmm, is that system using a Haswell CPU?
[22:41] <cheese1756> daftykins, Yup. Could it be a problem with the integrated graphics?
[22:42] <cheese1756> I think I need to set nomodeset
[22:42] <cheese1756> Let me see
[22:42] <daftykins> cheese1756: can't say i'm knowledgable in kernel quirks, but i wouldn't put it past there being a surprise. Sony's tend to be mighty quirky to get alternate OS's on to begin with. if you're absolutely committed to getting 13.04 on there, perhaps a text mode installer disc image would be worth a go
[22:42] <cheese1756> daftykins, Believe me, I'm committed :)
[22:43] <daftykins> hehehe
[22:45] <cheese1756> OK, so I set nomodeset and got farther, but still stuck at the SSD config. I think I need to set nolapic too
[22:45] <daftykins> worth a go
[22:46] <subman> When trying to upgrade, I'm getting the following errors:  http://pastebin.ca/2399035.  I've tried apt-get -f install to fix and it just spits out these same errors.  Is there a way to fix this?
[22:48] <MonkeyDust> subman  3.2... that's ubuntu 12.04 ?
[22:48] <subman> MonkeyDust, yes
[22:48] <subman> MonkeyDust, Server
[22:49] <MonkeyDust> subman  try dpkg -a --configure      and there's also #ubuntu-server
[22:49] <G55321> can anyone provide a one liner for backing up an entire ubuntu server to an external drive? not with dd because I want to keep my current files in there.
[22:49] <subman> MonkeyDust, Yes, I tried dpkg, same error.  I've tried asking in #server and other than the sound of crickets, no other responses
[22:50] <MonkeyDust> G55321  rsync -avv --progress [from] [to]
[22:50] <MonkeyDust> G55321  and -vv and --progress is just for fancy, not really needed
[22:51] <G55321> MonkeyDust: thanks...and how to exclude crap like /proc or /sys ?
[22:51] <MonkeyDust> G55321  with --exclude
[22:51] <G55321> comma separated?
[22:51] <MonkeyDust> nope
[22:51] <MonkeyDust> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[22:51] <G55321> ty
[22:52] <OerHeks> G55321,  " tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys / "  is a good start from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ForumWikiTeam/Sandbox/BackupAndRestoreYourSystem
[22:52] <cheese1756> Woohoo!
[22:52] <cheese1756> Setting nomodeset worked
[22:52] <cheese1756> I have a CLI
[22:53] <cheese1756> ls works
[22:54] <mmercer> ok, thats at least a start.  now to work on converting from checkinstall to a *real* .deb
[22:54] <MonkeyDust> cheese1756  now type sudo apt-get install sl;sl
[22:54] <ubuntub> hello everyone, i'm trying to get my touchpad to work but it doesn't my laptop model is "Toshiba A500 1GL", I can connect a wireless mouse in an instant, i tried unplugging the wireless mouse, disabling and enabling the touchpad through its personal button but no luck
[22:55] <daftykins> cheese1756: :) CLI? so no X at all?
[22:55] <digitalirony> so, I am trying to do an apt-get install
[22:55] <subman> MonkeyDust, I manged to find my own answer, thanks though!
[22:56] <digitalirony> and it keeps telling me E: The package surfer:i386 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[22:56] <digitalirony> is there a way I can force it to remove that package?
[22:56] <cheese1756> daftykins, No, I do want X, it just won't startup
[22:56] <MonkeyDust> subman  for future refernce: how did you do it?
[22:56] <daftykins> cheese1756: ah ok
[22:56] <cheese1756> It claims that /home/ubuntu/.Xauthority does not exist, yet it does
[22:56] <LUBUNTU-FAIL> Hi all
[22:56] <cheese1756> However, it is blank
[22:56] <LUBUNTU-FAIL> I have a BIG problem with UEFI installation
[22:56] <mmercer> is there an equivalent package to packaging-dev for natty?  seems that package wasnt available in that release
[22:56] <LUBUNTU-FAIL> and also one more question
[22:56] <MonkeyDust> uefi is a pain
[22:56] <subman> MonkeyDust, sudo dpkg --remove linux-generic-pae followed by sudo apt-get install linux-generic-pae
[22:56] <cheese1756> LUBUNTU-FAIL, Join the club
[22:57] <daftykins> LUBUNTU-FAIL: ask away on one line then
[22:57] <subman> MonkeyDust, then regular update and upgrade
[22:57] <MonkeyDust> subman  great!
[22:58] <ditchwindows> i'm really interested in ditching that lame microsoft windows junk and upgrade back to linux, which distro is ideal for gaming with wine and such, and skype?
[22:58] <MonkeyDust> !ot | ditchwindows
[22:59] <cheese1756> ditchwindows, Ubuntu works well for anything, really
[22:59] <daftykins> unless you have cheese1756's new laptop
[22:59] <daftykins> ;)
[22:59] <cheese1756> daftykins, I knew I was jumping into uncharted territory :P
[22:59] <daftykins> :D
[23:00] <daftykins> good fun that, though
[23:00] <daftykins> LUBUNTU-FAIL: are you still typing?
[23:00] <ditchwindows> cheese1756: yeah i find ubuntu pretty good, but i've had some suggestions with debian and/or chakra any thoughts between the three distros?
[23:01] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> HEY.. SWITCHED TO PIDGIN, WEBCHAT ON CHROMIUM WAS NOT WORKING WELL
[23:01] <cheese1756> ditchwindows, Unless you want something really stable, don't go with Debian. I've been tempted to play with Chakra before, but it's not for newbies
[23:01] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> ops sorry for caps lock
[23:01] <cheese1756> daftykins, It works!
[23:01] <cheese1756> Now to test driver support
[23:01] <daftykins> ditchwindows: nobody can tell you what is 'best' because there is no 'best'. just try something and see how it goes
[23:01] <cheese1756> I can already tell that wireless drivers will be fun...
[23:01] <ditchwindows> cheese1756: ahh alright, then ubuntu it is! - which version do you think is ideal
[23:01] <cheese1756> ditchwindows, Just go for 13.04
[23:01] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> my first question is> why the hell does ubuntu try to install GRUB before installing the system itself???
[23:01] <cheese1756> That should suit your needs
[23:02] <cheese1756> LUBUNTU-FAIL1, Because grub is required to boot anything
[23:02] <ditchwindows> cheese1756:  sounds good, thanks for the help!
[23:02] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> I mean, it never did it before
[23:02] <G55321> ditchwindows: Steam ONLY supports ubuntu, so there is your distro for gaming
[23:02] <G55321> steam works on most distros but ubuntu is the only one officially supported
[23:02] <ditchwindows> G55321: i dont use steam games but future proofing wouldn't hurt
[23:02] <cheese1756> daftykins, To say that touchscreen support is not great would be an understatement
[23:03] <bjrohan> A topic I don't know where to ask, so I will try here. Secnario one is using a laptop to browse the web,  check email etc.  Scenario 2 is using A remote desktop to do the same items on a server. Would using RDP use less bandwidth? My thoughts are that it would use less,. The email data etc is stored on theserver, and you are only seeing an image on th RDP. Is this correct thinking?
[23:03] <G55321> also some games are coming out with 100% ubuntu support, take bastion for example...you can even install it form the software center
[23:03] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> cheese1756: It is much smarter to install it after the system installation, for many reasons. Indeed, ubuntu always did this way, just as all the other distros
[23:04] <daftykins> cheese1756: hahaha
[23:04] <daftykins> LUBUNTU-FAIL1: the channel is for support, not for you to argue about how it should do things. do you have any real questions?
[23:04] <cheese1756> LUBUNTU-FAIL1, Oh, I thought you were new, but I can tell you know what you're talking about. Yeah, Gentoo also does grub install last, and Slackware does LILO. No idea why Ubuntu does it first
[23:04] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> but this time, with 13.04, something changed. or at least this is what I can see
[23:05] <tylerehome> daftykins: I think I might actually have found a solution. Edit /etc/pulseaudio/client.conf, and set autospawn to no, then when you launch your DE fire off pulseaudio --start....it seems to stay up, even when no sound is being played
[23:05] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> cheese1756: ubuntu always did it after * at least until 12.04, the last version that I tried before the 13.04
[23:05] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> anyway
[23:05] <Integrated> i'm trying to install xubuntu to my hp pavilion dv1000, but it's saying i dont have the PAE kernel. is my comp not able to handle xubuntu?
[23:05] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> i explain why I'm asking this
[23:05] <daftykins> tylerehome: interesting
[23:06] <daftykins> tylerehome: you might want to test that multiple programs can still play at once
[23:06] <mp19uy> Hi, Im trying to install dualboot (ubuntu & win8). I just finished installing ubuntu after windows but when I restarted it went straight to windows, no grub no nothing... Can you give me some advice to solve this?
[23:07] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> my grub installation {did at the beginning of lubuntu setup} failed. After just 30 seconds it started. This means that the system was still not installed
[23:07] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> now I would have tried to fix just the boot loader issue, If I just had the system installed
[23:07] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> but I don't
[23:08] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> anyway, the error message happened to other users before me
[23:08] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> as i googled much
[23:08] <daftykins> mp19uy: you can either look up a guide on how to edit the Windows bootloader to point to GRUB to boot Ubuntu, or look up GRUB to find out how to reinstall it and make things work
[23:08] <daftykins> !grub | mp19uy
[23:09] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1>  "Failed to install grub-efi to /target/ the system will not boot"
[23:10] <mp19uy> daftykins: Ok I will try to find something related to my problem there, thanks for the link.
[23:11] <daftykins> mp19uy: np
[23:11] <mmercer> if youre going to be hardcore gaming, your choices will come down to:  gentoo, arch, ubuntu, fedora <-- those are really the 4 ones that have the best chance for games
[23:12] <sere_> LUBUNTU-FAIL1: what is your actaul boot error or what happends.. why cant you repair grub?
[23:12] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> sere_: there is no boot error, cause grub hadn't been installed
[23:13] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> i wanna be precise.. i **THINK** that I cannot repair grub because of what I've already explained up here
[23:13] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> installation has been too short, the grub error came very early
[23:14] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> so I don't ***THINK*** that it's installed
[23:14] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> anyway, how do you suggest to fix it {supposing that lubuntu has been installed correctly}
[23:14] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> ?
[23:15] <sere_> LUBUNTU-FAIL1: during your install at the bottom did you pick mount point to install grub and then change it.. if there was no grub being installed, it should have let you know.. anything is possible though
[23:15] <LupusNoctis> Hmmm.  Anyone know of a guide with the common hangups/problems of running 13.04 desktop  inside VirutalBox?  It seems it installed properly, but all I get is a black screen w/ mouse pointer after logging on.  It shuts down properly, lets me enter password off C-A-D
[23:16] <daftykins> LupusNoctis: running an up to date virtualbox? did you enable graphics acceleration on the guest?
[23:17] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> sere_: I haven't understood what you wrote, sorry
[23:17] <LupusNoctis> It was downloaded today, 4.2.12,  and it says 2d accel for windows guests only, but I've tried with both 3d on and off
[23:18] <antibody> hey people. So when I have a video in fullscreen (nvidia-glx) either with totem or vlc I get the shadow of the top ubuntu desktop bar. (unity) how can I fix this?
[23:18] <antibody> I can't find the bug
[23:19] <melow01> I'm trying to get audio working on an Ubuntu Server and I installed ALSA, do I need pulse too?
[23:19] <gordonjcp> melow01: depends what you're trying to do
[23:20] <gordonjcp> melow01: pulse is great if you've got more than one app trying to play audio at once
[23:20] <melow01> gordonjcp, I'm trying to setup a streaming server to pull audio from a radio station via vlc and output the audio to the analog audio output
[23:20] <gordonjcp> melow01: then you probably don't need pulse
[23:20] <gordonjcp> keep it nice and simple
[23:21] <LupusNoctis> Hmm, I can even switch to terminal mode,  just the GUI/Desktop isn't displaying
[23:21] <daftykins> LupusNoctis: have you tried dropping to a TTY and fully updating the guest?
[23:21] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> wtf
[23:21] <melow01> gordonjcp, that's what I thought but VLC is giving me an error about dbus
[23:21] <melow01> gordonjcp, dbus-daemon
[23:21] <gordonjcp> melow01: that's something separate, I reckon
[23:22] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> LUBUNTU-WIN1: during the install I did manual partitioning. of course I chose the mount point for the root partition
[23:22] <melow01> gordonjcp, ok
[23:22] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> I don't understand what you mean with '' to install grub and then change it ''
[23:23] <LupusNoctis> daftykins: Fully updating?  the install purported to download and install updates.  Forgive me, it's been a while: what's the CLI commands for running full updates?
[23:23] <daftykins> LupusNoctis: fair enough, worth a go nonetheless 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[23:23] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> please, someone, help me
[23:25] <LupusNoctis> blerg.  0 counts  updated, seems to have all the latest.
[23:25] <LupusNoctis> perhaps I need to install the guest addons?
[23:26] <vfw> !grub | LUBUNTU-FAIL1
[23:26] <daftykins> LupusNoctis: have you looked up virtualbox and 13.04 issues?
[23:26] <SpaceManiac> Disk Usage Analyzer says my whole 120GB is full, but / is only taking 43GB - where's all that space gone?
[23:27] <LupusNoctis> hard to limit the results to just 13.04 :)
[23:27] <vfw> SpaceManiac: df
[23:27] <LUBUNTU-WIN1> LUBUNTU-FAIL1: when you installed lubuntu it should have giving you an option where you want to install grub /dev/bla /dev/bla1.. once when i chose a a destination to install grub and then changed it.. not sure what i did but grub wasnt being installed but it gave me an error letting me know this..
[23:29] <SpaceManiac> vfw: /dev/sda1 mounted on / is 100% full, so I guess it's not a mount issue?
[23:30] <vfw> SpaceManiac: What size is /dev/sda1?
[23:30] <SpaceManiac> vfw: 115217968 1K-blocks (~110G I think)
[23:31] <LUBUNTU-WIN1> LUBUNTU-FAIL1: vfw recommendations should fix your probablem but you mentioned your install was cut short.. if it didnt finish then i dont know
[23:31] <vfw> SpaceManiac: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[23:31] <vfw> SpaceManiac: Show us
[23:31] <LupusNoctis> There, giving the Guest Addon installs a try
[23:32] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> LUBUNTU-WIN1: well yes I'm able to choice whether to install it on a single partition {sdaX} or on the whole disk {sda}
[23:32] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> but there's no option to not install it
[23:33] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> sere ^
[23:33] <SpaceManiac> vfw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5766258/
[23:34] <subman> How can I clear up space on my /boot partition?
[23:34] <k1l> subman: delete old kernel packages
[23:35] <sere> LUBUNTU-FAIL1: thats what happend to me too.. i never chose not to install it but still got that error saying i did.. it was odd
[23:35] <subman> k1l, how to do that properly?
[23:35] <ThothCastel> is a reboot needed after installation of openssh-server ?
[23:36] <k1l> subman: look what kernels are in /boot . then remove the "linux-image-....." packages. but let at least one kernel in there :)
[23:36] <sere> LUBUNTU-FAIL1: either way you should be able to install / repair it, as long as your install completed
[23:37] <subman> k1l, but surely I cannot just delete them.....
[23:37] <k1l> subman: ?
[23:37] <daftykins> subman: pastebin 'ls /boot' and i'll show you how to clear up
[23:38] <k1l> subman: dont delete the files in that folder. use apt-get (or softwarecenter etc) to remove the packages
[23:38] <subman> k1l, like apt-get remove linux-image-x.x.x-xx-generic-pae, correct?
[23:39] <k1l> subman: yes, that is how you remove old kernels
[23:39] <subman> k1l, keeping in mind to retain the current kernel as shown in uname -r?
[23:39] <vfw> SpaceManiac: df | pastebinit #Show us URL
[23:39] <k1l> subman: yep :)
[23:40] <subman> k1l, got it, thanks.
[23:40] <SpaceManiac> vfw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5766284/ -- thanks for the help by the way
[23:41] <vfw> subman: uname -a   #Shows you the one you are using now.
[23:41] <vfw> SpaceManiac: So, how long since the install?
[23:42] <SpaceManiac> vfw: a long time
[23:42] <vfw> SpaceManiac: Do you have recordmydesktop installed?  (Or some similar app.?)
[23:42] <SpaceManiac> TeamViewer maybe, but I think it's out of date
[23:44] <vfw> SpaceManiac: Well, you just need to do some house cleaning. ls -ltrS    <will list by file sizes, largest last>   du |sort -n   <will show directories sorted by size>
[23:45] <vfw> SpaceManiac: If you are collecting audio or vidoe files, you might look in those directores for large files that may need to be placed elsewhere.
[23:45] <vfw> SpaceManiac: Maybe you are using streamripper or something like that?
[23:46] <SpaceManiac> vfw: not that I'm aware of
[23:47] <ThothCastel> what is NIS as compared to LDAP?
[23:47] <SpaceManiac> "sort: write failed: /tmp/sortUrBu9S: No space left on device" joy
[23:47] <vfw> SpaceManiac: Ok.  Just use the tools I mentioned above and look for large files you may not need any more.
[23:48] <Gamah> can anyone help a complete idiot (me) with some slightly advanced wget functions?
[23:48] <vfw> SpaceManiac: Free up some space and try again.
[23:48] <vfw> Gamah: Sure....
[23:48] <zykotick9> ThothCastel: i'm under the impression, NIS is old-school unix directory management system...  i've never used it, so i got no details.
[23:48] <daftykins> Gamah: type out the full question plz
[23:49] <ThothCastel> zykotick9: ok, thank you...  have you used an LDAP?
[23:49] <melow01> I'm trying to find the analog output of my system, is lsmod the correct command?
[23:49] <zykotick9> ThothCastel: no, but that's the new-school in comparison ;)
[23:50] <tylerehome> daftykins: multiple streams works fine...I have flash audio and Spotify going right now
[23:51] <Gamah> i have a bash script that consists of a few thousand lines that look like this: wget subdomainx.somewebsite.com/charstring.jpg to see if i can pull down any of these that are actually JPG's. (i've determined the method for generating them and the subdomains they are hosted at) but obviously a fair number of them aren't actually there... the server then gives me a 302 redirect to the home page and wget downloads the html of that page an
[23:51] <Gamah> i'd like to ignore and move on if there is no .jpg at the destination
[23:51] <zykotick9> ThothCastel: i've only ever used *nix on boxes i own, so i've never had a need for central user management in anyway (other then making sure my UIDs are the same across all boxes)  good luck.
[23:52] <daftykins> tylerehome: nice, where did you find that idea btw?
[23:52] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> I am trying a workaround vfw, sere. I am installing grub on ubuntuàs partition, so that the system is completely installed correctly
[23:52] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> then i will think about mbr
[23:53] <ThothCastel> zykotick9: thanks :)
[23:53]  * Gamah paces inpatiently
[23:54] <Gamah> impatiently, even.