    I got a tip on some glass screen protectors
 No z axis mod required.
 http://www.zdnet.com/article/raspberry-pi-zero-sized-pocketbeagle-25-open-source-computer-is-tiny-as-a-key-fob/
 @KMyers @AdamOutler You guys familiar with intent uri syntax? I think they changed it recently
 https://danielmiessler.com/study/url-uri/
 Why have I not found this sooner. … https://youtu.be/LTq8TrA3hb4
 I like Google+
 It's decent, I enjoy Twitter from time to time
 That's an interesting formation.
 Likes like a scene from Aliens
 Too many items on the build plate
 @ahoneybun - I need an address for you so I can ship this over. You left it in my car
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[10:34] <BarrieButsers> Hi, i`m on Xenial, and i see a bug is fixed in Zesty, but i`d rather not upgrade whole system. Is there a way to fix this bug in Xenial?
[14:49] <BarrieButsers> hi, i`m on xenial, and i know  a particular bug is fixed in zesty, but i don`t want to upgrade  whole system,. Is there a way to fix this in xenial?


[00:26] <RobbyF> _polto_, can't create users yet
[00:36] <_polto_> RobbyF, I was able to create a user, it have it's own home, accessible via ssh, but I do not know how to login with this new user...
[00:36] <RobbyF> it's not built to that extent yet.
[00:37] <_polto_> RobbyF, how can I reset phablet user so ? to use it with my personal data ?
[00:37] <RobbyF> you can remove some of the pre-installed data, is that what you mean?
[00:37] <_polto_> I would like to test SMS, ... address book , ...
[00:37] <_polto_> yes
[00:37] <_polto_> remove pre-installed data.
[00:37] <RobbyF> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[00:37] <RobbyF> scroll down to Sample content section
[00:38] <_polto_> thanks
[00:38] <_polto_> got it
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> So is the raring development in the touch auto installable with the phablet tols?
[03:28] <onewanman_> hello
[03:28] <onewanman_> how is the OS progressing
[06:45] <dholbach> good morning
[06:56] <Akiva-Mobile> I was just learning about c++ so I could develope for ubuntu-phone in the future. I then found out that a lot of people hate it, especially linus torvalds :http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/57643/focus=57918.  Before investing a lot of time in learning more C++, I was thinking that maybe it would be better to learn C, seeing as I already know a oo language [python].
[06:57] <Akiva-Mobile> my question is whether that is fine if I plan to work with QT?
[06:57] <Akiva-Mobile> I am a pretty new programmer, but I figure if it works well with c++, it should also work well with c.
[06:58] <Akiva-Mobile> If I plan to write applications with QT gui's, the ubuntu touch, etc, can I get by with just knowing c?
[07:01] <bef0rd> qt is c++
[07:01] <bef0rd> better learn qt and Qml
[07:08] <Akiva-Mobile> bef0rd: I do not get it; does ubuntu touch applications run on qt? I thought that was just the GUI, where as everything else was c++?
[07:15] <bef0rd> learn what qt is
[07:15] <bef0rd> and yes, ubuntu touch apps are qt/qml
[07:22] <Akiva-Mobile> bef0rd: You could just tell me. It says "Application framework", which means... what? You can use it to make a calculator, or you can use it just to make the framework for a calculator, where as the rest of it has to be done in literal c++?
[07:25] <chriadam> Akiva-Mobile: Qt is a set of C++ libraries, basically.  When you write Qt code, you're writing C++ - but instead of using standard types, you're using types provided by the Qt libraries.  QML is different: it's a separate language, whose implementation was written in C++, but client code doesn't have to be C++ (you can use just QML syntax + JavaScript)
[07:26] <chriadam> QML has deep integration with normal Qt C++ types, so you can mix and match Qt C++ and Qt/QML code, in various ways.
[07:26] <Akiva-Mobile> chriadam: QML just strikes me as a html renderer basically. Is that partly correct?
[07:27] <chriadam> no
[07:27] <chriadam> it doesn't use a DOM or a HTML rendering engine
[07:27] <Akiva-Mobile> okay. why did it choose to use html code?
[07:27] <chriadam> it didn't
[07:28] <Akiva-Mobile> sorry
[07:28] <Akiva-Mobile> javascript
[07:28] <Akiva-Mobile> im a goof
[07:28] <Akiva-Mobile> thats what I meant; a javascript renderer
[07:28] <Akiva-Mobile> QML just strikes me as a JAVASCRIPT renderer basically. Is that partly correct?
[07:28] <chriadam> it chose JavaScript for expressions basically because it's a well known language, with C-like syntax so it's familiar to most people.  also, QML has similarities to JSON, and JS and JSON are familiar friends.
[07:29] <chriadam> JavaScript and rendering are completely unrelated concepts
[07:29] <bef0rd> there's no need to guess, search for QML documentation
[07:29] <Akiva-Mobile> Thanks for letting me know~
[07:30] <chriadam> QML uses an optimised, OpenGL scene-graph renderer, written in C++.
[07:41] <Akiva-Mobile> chriadam|away: Why is it not more logical to use C++ for expressions, seeing it is working with a c++ based language qt?
[07:42] <chriadam|away> I'm about to head home, unfortunately.  but, briefly: because expressions are (or can be) dynamic.  You can't resolve dynamic things at build time.
[07:42] <Akiva-Mobile> Thanks!
[08:04] <Akiva-Mobile> Why can't dynamic things be resolved at build time?
[08:06] <Akiva-Mobile> Dynamic things as I understand it, is just an equation broken up into smaller equations (supposedly for multitasking)
[08:07] <Akiva-Mobile> is that like to say, that when c++ compiles, it will solve the  various equations, and save to memory only the results?
[08:11] <shadeslayer> ogra_: so, I got the bootlooping to stop, but since the screen is always off idk whats happening
[10:10] <ogra_> shadeslayer, try to enable the serial gadget in your kernel, that should give you serial output on USB after the kernel is up
[10:11] <shadeslayer> yeah I tried that, but there was no /proc/bus/usb/devices
[10:12] <ogra_> on your PC ?
[10:12] <shadeslayer> yes
[10:12] <ogra_> you want /dev/tty....
[10:12] <ogra_> check dmesg while booting the n10 with an exisring USB connection
[10:13] <shadeslayer> oh, I was following https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/usb/gadget_serial.txt
[10:13] <Rami__> hell
[10:14] <ogra_> shadeslayer, you ant it builtin  and it should just come up automatically
[10:14] <shadeslayer> I see
[10:15] <ogra_> and there is no need for any drivers on the PC side ... just watch dmesg when booting, you shoould see the tty device appear
[10:22] <shadeslayer> ogra_: and you were right about the the toolchain
[10:22] <shadeslayer> all of my compile issues went away when I used the ubuntu toolchain
[10:23] <shadeslayer> so much easier to just export CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabihf-  and run make :)
[10:35] <nerochiaro> tmoenicke: hi, have a question about the OSK. right now it seems that when you tap and hold on a button, you don't get repeated events. but it would be really useful to have instead
[10:38] <shadeslayer> ogra_: uh, nothing shows up in dmesg
[10:42] <xnox> Look how hot this is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5710034/ c++ demangled dpkg symbols file =)
[10:43] <ogra_> shadeslayer, hmm, weird
[10:43] <shadeslayer> indeedly
[10:43] <shadeslayer> note that I /think/ the device booted the kernel because it feels warm when you touch it
[10:43] <ogra_> lol
[10:44] <shadeslayer> :P
[10:44] <shadeslayer> there's no output on the screen, so I can't tell
[10:44] <ogra_> well, you need to make it output somehow ... either through g_serial or through a framebuffer console
[10:45] <ogra_> thats always the first essential step
[10:46] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: you got n10?
[10:46] <shadeslayer> yes
[10:47] <Quintasan> Tch. Gibe one plax
[10:47] <ogra_> xnox, and do these symboals actually have something in their back or is it just stubs
[10:47] <ogra_> ?
[10:48] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: whut
[10:48] <Quintasan> give me one
[10:48] <Quintasan> :P
[10:48] <shadeslayer> haha
[10:50] <shadeslayer> hm, this config has some weird command line options
[10:51] <shadeslayer> CONFIG_CMDLINE="vmalloc=512M debug_core.break_on_panic=0 debug_core.break_on_exception=0 no_console_suspend s3c2410-wdt.tmr_atboot=1 s3c2410-wdt.tmr_margin=30"
[10:51] <ogra_> yeah, ignore them, usually the bootloader sets it anyway (and overrides it)
[10:51] <shadeslayer> if I completely remove all those options, I don't get a bootloop, but don't get a fb as well
[10:51] <ogra_> just make sure the bootloader config is right
[10:51] <shadeslayer> ogra_: actually CONFIG_CMDLINE_EXTEND=y
[10:52] <ogra_> ah
[10:52] <tmoenicke> nerochiaro: when you keep a button pressed, usually a popup comes up offering extended keys like umlauts
[10:52] <tmoenicke> nerochiaro: which we will have soon
[10:52] <shadeslayer> thing is, if I completely remove those options, then I don't get anything ( no bootloop as well )
[10:52] <ogra_> try console=ttyGS0
[10:53] <ogra_> that should force it to use the g_serial console
[10:53] <nerochiaro> tmoenicke: but that doesn't apply to keys like backspace
[10:53] <shadeslayer> okay
[10:53] <nerochiaro> tmoenicke: which need repeats to quickly delete text
[10:53] <shadeslayer> ogra_: so all it should pass to the kernel is root=/dev/block/platform/dw_mmc.0/by-name/userdata console=ttyGS0
[10:54] <tmoenicke> nerochiaro: yep for that case, true
[10:54] <tmoenicke> nerochiaro: the maliit-keyboard has that
[10:54] <ogra_> shadeslayer, no idea if that device path exists ...  but yeah for the console ...
[10:54] <ogra_> if you boot into an initrd prompt root= doesnt really matter anyway
[10:54] <shadeslayer> heh okay
[10:54] <nerochiaro> tmoenicke: any way we can get that fixed ?
[10:54] <ogra_> just make sure to have the right break= optiojn set too
[10:55] <shadeslayer> break=top ?
[10:55] <ogra_> yeah
[10:55] <tmoenicke> nerochiaro: yep the new keyboard does that
[10:55] <ogra_> and well, make sure its actually an ubuntu initrd :)
[10:55] <shadeslayer> haha ofcourse
[10:56] <xnox> ogra_: what do you mean "in their back"?
[10:56] <ogra_> xnox, well, are there actually sensors to get data from ?
[10:57] <xnox> ogra_: maybe =)
[10:57] <ogra_> (is it linkled into some android lib, libhybris ... libfoo ?)
[10:57] <ogra_> ah
[10:57] <xnox> yeah, it's libhybris dependant implementation library.
[10:57] <ogra_> ah, good
[10:57] <xnox> ogra_: the "original" symbols are C++ ugliness which can be arch dependant: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5710076/
[10:57] <ogra_> though i think hybris doesnt have any sensors connections yet ... might be stubs there
[10:58] <ogra_> yeah
[10:58] <xnox> ogra_: I didn't know up until today that dpkg-gensymbols supports (c++) tag to filter the symbols via c++filt
[10:58] <ogra_> symbols are a pain in C++
[10:59] <xnox> well with c++ tag they are ok, but I am worried that mangled symbol might change/dropped while demangled name stays the same.
[11:03] <delaya73> hello
[11:03] <delaya73> help
[11:04] <delaya73> p990 adb not work, usb connect error: usb device not configured, error -22
[11:05] <delaya73> error on the side of the phone
[11:07] <delaya73> lsusb not list device
[11:07] <delaya73> new bootloader
[11:09] <ogra_> delaya73, i guess you are better off asking in the xda forums
[11:10] <delaya73> ok
[11:12] <ogra_> (in the linked thread from the wikipage)
[11:12] <shadeslayer> mmmm ... nope, still doesn't show up in dmesg
[11:28] <krabador> ogra_, why raring haven't the new core apps inside quantal?
[11:28] <ogra_> krabador, i think they arent built for raring yet ... the raring image is still experimental
[11:29] <ogra_> which reminds me ...
[11:29] <ogra_> sergiusens, all raring bits (except changelog and the still empty manifest) are on cdimange now, shoould be ready for testing changes to phablet-flash
[11:30] <ogra_> i just linked the android parts
[11:50] <sergiusens> ogra_: nice, I'll make the necessay changes
[11:51] <sergiusens> can you tag todays quantal build as well?
[11:53] <ogra_> you mean move it to the quantal dir ? didnt we wnat tests first ?
[11:53] <ogra_> (its just a cp -a for me but i thought we wanted to wait for a set of manual tests)
[12:14] <RobbyF> whats the phablet-flash command for raring orga?
[12:17] <ogra_> there is none
[12:17] <ogra_> phablet-flash will automatically switch once everything is ready
[12:17] <RobbyF> oh ok. thought there was from above comments,
[12:17]  * RobbyF needs morning coffee
[12:17] <ogra_> no, i meant just for testing :)
[12:18] <ogra_> (you could surely hack up phablet-flash locally to use raring though
[12:18] <ogra_> )
[12:19]  * h01ger dist-upgraded to raring and now the display stays black (nexus4) - i can still ssh in though
[12:20] <ogra_> dist upgrading might cause libhybris and platform-api issues ...
[12:20] <ogra_> since half of them lives on the android side
[12:20] <h01ger> ic
[12:20] <ogra_> (yet unpackaged)
[12:21] <h01ger> the android side is the kernel and?
[12:21] <ogra_> we're waiting for the results of the possible container flip
[12:21] <h01ger> +, i'm glad this is unsurprising
[12:21] <ogra_> once android lives in the container it will be easier to update these bits by packages
[12:22] <ogra_> android consists of kernel, binary drivers the full HAL layer and platform-api and libhybris
[12:22] <ogra_> everything you need to make the HW work ...
[12:22] <ogra_> everything above that level is ubuntu
[12:23] <h01ger> ah. and "platform-api and libhybris" is running on android, but not part of normal android, but rather done to be able to run ubuntu on top?
[12:24] <ogra_> right, they are the communication layers to talk to the HW
[12:24] <ogra_> one half lives in android, the other in the ubuntu rootfs
[12:24]  * h01ger nods
[12:24] <ogra_> and indeed they need to be in sync
[12:25] <ogra_> which can cause dist-upgrade to break if you dont also use a new ansdroid layer
[12:25] <h01ger> makes sense now :-) so i will reflash from scratch once again - though not before next weekend..
[12:25] <h01ger> ogra_, thanks for the explaination. much appreciated.
[12:25] <ogra_> :)
[12:31] <mhall119> ogra_: do you know which core apps are in the latest images?
[12:31] <mhall119> is it still clock, calendar and calculator?
[12:31] <ogra_> nope, i dont ... sergiusens might
[12:32] <sergiusens> mhall119: yes, it's those
[12:32] <mhall119> thanks
[12:32] <sergiusens> mhall119: I wasn't told about any new additions
[12:32] <mhall119> ok, just wanted to make sure, I'm working on a blog post
[12:32] <sergiusens> mhall119: but it's easy to add them as long as they are in that same ppa
[12:32] <h01ger> app wise, i mostly miss vibration feedback in on-screen keyboard... but i guess thats planned and i just need to be patient?
[12:39] <mhall119> sergiusens: yeah, I just wanted to highlight the ones we've started including
[12:40] <ogra_> h01ger, once we have proper sensor handling in the api vibration should work too
[12:41] <h01ger> ah, nice. (and good to know what the cause is..)
[13:12] <mterry> didrocks, hello!  What's the skinny on daily-release and config deployment?  I'm happy to help wrangle some of the stragglers today
[13:14] <steve_fi> heya, I get these weird corrupted fonts and wondered if someone can give me a hint to where I might start looking to solving it
[13:14] <steve_fi> http://ubuntuone.com/23E3affaQMvDRxGmfrRTTi
[13:15] <ogra_> steve_fi, mali ?
[13:15] <steve_fi> its when using my asus transformer
[13:15] <steve_fi> tegra
[13:15] <ogra_> ah
[13:15] <ogra_> i only know it from mali400 ... downgrading to the last driver solves it there
[13:15] <shadeslayer> that looks like a TF101
[13:15] <steve_fi> it is
[13:15] <shadeslayer> such a crappy device that is :(
[13:16] <steve_fi> yeah I agree, I bought the dock and the keyboard lasted about 2 months on it, bought a second which lasted 1 month
[13:16] <shadeslayer> heh
[13:16] <lilstevie> oh fun
[13:16] <Quintasan> oh lilstevie
[13:16] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[13:16] <shadeslayer> lilstevie is here
[13:16] <shadeslayer> :D
[13:16] <lilstevie> used to get that on the tegra x11 drivers on the tf101 all the time too
[13:16]  * lilstevie hates tegra
[13:17] <steve_fi> ah, so I know where to start looking :D
[13:17] <Quintasan> steve_fi: You won't get nvidia drivers working on newer kernels I believe
[13:17] <shadeslayer> ^^
[13:17] <Quintasan> Since it lacks some interfaces AFAIR
[13:18] <steve_fi> alright
[13:18] <ogra_> at least you can still call your friends :P
[13:18] <Quintasan> lilstevie might know the exact problem
[13:18] <ogra_> (according to the screenshot)
[13:19] <shadeslayer> ogra_: it's weird btw, I flashed a kernel a couple of hours ago that made the android robot in funny colors
[13:19] <shadeslayer> things were cyan
[13:19] <shadeslayer> and I had modified my init script to increase brightness and the brightness did increase before the screen shutdown
[13:19] <lilstevie> Quintasan, yeah, but with ubuntu touch they are using android driver blobs
[13:19] <lilstevie> and using the old ones
[13:19] <lilstevie> shadeslayer, woo welcome to the weird <IP_ADDRESS> fbcon screwups
[13:19] <Quintasan> still, the nvidia driver won't work with new kernel, will it?
[13:20] <shadeslayer> lilstevie: eh, this was on the Nexus 10
[13:20] <shadeslayer> it's super weird, I can't get a fbcon on this thing atl all
[13:20] <lilstevie> Quintasan, the latest android one? no, that said I don't think the latest one works on tegra2
[13:20] <lilstevie> shadeslayer, oh
[13:20] <shadeslayer> though I got it to stop bootlooping
[13:20] <lilstevie> heh
[13:20] <ogra_> lilstevie, thats n10 and he is trying to get a normal X11 up
[13:20] <Quintasan> lilstevie: my point exactly
[13:20] <ogra_> (or rather first an fbcon)
[13:20] <shadeslayer> ^^
[13:21] <lilstevie> ogra_, yeah I got that now :p
[13:21] <shadeslayer> lilstevie: exact same concept as the one you had with the TF101 ;)
[13:21] <lilstevie> I really hate arm fbcons
[13:21] <lilstevie> half the time they work
[13:21] <shadeslayer> can't even get g_serial up
[13:22] <lilstevie> fbcon hangs the SoC on my xperia t
[13:23] <shadeslayer> might explain what happens here
[13:25] <shadeslayer> lilstevie: how did you figure that out btw?
[13:26] <lilstevie> shadeslayer, uart debugging showed that as soon as the bootloader jumped to the kernel everything just stopped
[13:26] <shadeslayer> ah
[13:27] <shadeslayer> the xperia t has uart debugging, cool :)
[13:27] <lilstevie> requiring a forced reset
[13:27] <lilstevie> heh yeah
[13:27] <lilstevie> fairly easy to get to also
[13:27]  * shadeslayer hasn't found a way to do uart on the n10
[13:35] <didrocks> hey mterry, sorry was in a hangout :)
[13:36] <shadeslayer> lilstevie: did you enable FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE on the TF101 and it just worked? :P
[13:36] <didrocks> mterry: so, some progress, but still some work to do :)
[13:36] <didrocks> mterry: we had sil2100 fixing some of the "dep-wait forever because of powerpc" things
[13:36] <didrocks> mterry: I would say that 1. is look at what happened to unity raring
[13:37] <didrocks> mterry: 2. there is still some help needed on other components if you want :)
[13:37] <shadeslayer> \o/
[13:37] <ogra_> shadeslayer, you might need some mali specific settings  in the framebuffer options
[13:37] <shadeslayer> I have the funny cyan thing again
[13:37] <lilstevie> shadeslayer, pretty much
[13:37] <didrocks> mterry: 3. we'll need to put every stacks in manual uploads mode I guess for final freeze
[13:37] <mterry> didrocks, I noticed that some head stacks were failing because I forgot to list all the install deps of the autopilot test packages.  Will make a merge for that
[13:38] <didrocks> mterry: oh, sync with sil2100
[13:38] <didrocks> mterry: he's looking at it today, I asked for it
[13:38] <mterry> didrocks, OK
[13:38]  * didrocks hugs mterry for looking at that, the only one! :-)
[13:38] <didrocks> mterry: I asked me in particular to look at the list closely
[13:38] <mterry> :)
[13:38] <didrocks> not sure if you noticed but mysql is installed
[13:38] <mterry> didrocks, you asked who in particular?
[13:38] <didrocks> maybe we want to fix the dep/recommends to avoid that :)
[13:39] <didrocks> mterry: oh, I asked today sil2100 for it. I thought your subteam would look at what they bootstrap :-)
[13:39] <mterry> didrocks, I have a subteam?
[13:40] <didrocks> mterry: our* subteam :)
[13:40] <mterry> didrocks, phew
[13:40] <mterry> :)
[13:40] <didrocks> mterry: ahah, I see you relief, you will skip meeting at 8PM :p
[13:42] <shadeslayer> omg omg omg
[13:42] <shadeslayer> ogra_: my init can control brightness
[13:42] <shadeslayer> but that's about all I can get it to do at the moment :D
[13:43] <shadeslayer> I put this in my init http://paste.kde.org/725000/
[13:43] <shadeslayer> and the brightness first lowers and then increases \o/
[13:43] <sil2100> mterry: now I do!
[13:46] <ogra_> shadeslayer, well, check the console options  in your kernel, there is likely some meli specific option you can set
[13:46] <ogra_> *mali
[13:46] <shadeslayer> hmm
[13:46] <shadeslayer> will try and get a serial console up first
[13:47] <shadeslayer> since I know it's loading the kernel and booting into the initrd
[13:50] <Guest38227> hello
[14:03] <shadeslayer> hmm
[14:03] <shadeslayer> ogra_: there's a pin : /sys/class/android_usb/android0/enable
[14:03] <shadeslayer> that's from recovery
[14:04] <ogra_> shadeslayer, for fbcon ?
[14:04] <shadeslayer> for usb access
[14:04] <shadeslayer> the recovery init writes 1 into that file to get adb working
[14:05] <shadeslayer> but obviously, that path is not available to us I think
[14:09] <shadeslayer> so I know stuff is happening in the init, I just dont know why it fails over :/
[14:11] <shadeslayer> ogra_: https://www.dropbox.com/s/55b1wljzlailxb4/IMAG0566.jpg
[14:11] <shadeslayer> that's the weird colored android I see
[14:36] <mterry> didrocks, are we keeping quantal support (for the moment) when porting jenkins configs from phablet to head?
[14:36] <mterry> fginther ^
[14:38] <fginther> didrocks, this is regarding the upstream ci/autolanding jobs
[14:41] <sergiusens> the plan for dropping quantal is -> raring tested, raring image has no regressions compared to the quantal build, quantal publishing dropped, cdimage defaults to raring
[14:43] <mterry> fginther, sergiusens: all the work so far in the daily-release part is raring only
[14:43] <mterry> Which is not to say we can't re-enable quantal
[14:43] <sergiusens> mterry: if you keep that phablet-land job, it will do the necessary thing
[14:43] <mterry> Just that it's a fair bit of unplanned work
[14:43] <sergiusens> mterry: I guess we will have to flip the switch faster
[14:43] <fginther> mterry, we're talking about upstream autolanding jobs, does the daily release care about that?
[14:43] <sergiusens> ogra_: pmcgowan rsalveti ^^
[14:44] <mterry> fginther, does the auto-upload bit not use the same platform config settings?
[14:44] <ogra_> sergiusens, i think that misses a "quantal tested" as well
[14:44] <rsalveti> sergiusens: hopefully we'd be able to take the decision later today/tomorrow
[14:45] <ogra_> if i tag it to the quantal dir i want to be sure its stable enough for demoing
[14:45] <rsalveti> depending on the test results
[14:45] <pmcgowan> right lets execute the plan
[14:45] <rsalveti> yeah
[14:45] <fginther> mterry, no, the "configurations" section is for upstream only
[14:46] <fginther> mterry, the only option that the daily release jobs look at under a project is 'daily_release' :-)
[14:47] <mterry> fginther, OK.  Well if we want to re-enable quantal, that's fine.  But can that be done separately from this qtvideo-node branch?  Seems like something we should do globally at the top of each stack
[14:48] <fginther> mterry, yes. that's actually a good point
[14:48] <fginther> mterry, i'll update my comment
[14:50] <mterry> fginther, I can make a branch for that.  You said you didn't want to enable all 3 platforms (i386 amd64 armhf)
[14:50] <mterry> fginther, why not?  Seems like we could have a problem on one of them but not the others
[14:50] <fginther> mterry, I make the MP, I want to review the other projects briefly
[14:50] <mterry> fginther, OK
[14:51] <fginther> mterry, we just try to save some resources by not building all permutations
[14:52] <AmEv> Anyone there?
[14:52] <ogra_> where ?
[14:53] <AmEv> Just wanting to add a device to the WIP list.
[14:54] <ogra_> do it :)
[14:54] <AmEv> http://www.thriveforums.org/forum/pio_masaki-development/18090-wip-ubuntu-touch-thrive-development.html
[14:55] <ogra_> (if you are the porter, just add it yourself, its just a wikipage)
[14:56] <AmEv> Toshiba Thrive, codename Antares. Not the porter myself, but...
[14:56] <AmEv> I'll see what I can do.
[14:56] <ogra_> well, the wiki needs a contact person
[14:58] <AmEv> Don't know muck Wiki code, but I'll see what I can do.
[15:01] <A1taiR> Hello2All
[15:01] <A1taiR> I'm wondering: could you install Gimp on Ubuntu touch?
[15:02] <ogra_> you cuold ... but you coldnt use it on the display
[15:02] <ogra_> (you can install ssh and use it via "ssh -X" remotely)
[15:03] <ogra_> there is no Xorg support in ubuntu touch ... so it cant run on the display server
[15:03] <A1taiR> oh, I see
[15:03] <A1taiR> Is there any way to draw on ubuntu touch?
[15:04] <ogra_> write an app :)
[15:04] <A1taiR> :)
[15:04] <A1taiR> Will be there Xorg support ever?
[15:05] <A1taiR> Maybe, announced
[15:05] <ogra_> at some point once Mir is ready and enters the desktop
[15:05] <ogra_> currently ubuntu touch uses surfaceflinger ... that will soon be replaced with Mir which will only support Qt in the beginning ...
[15:06] <ogra_> for the move to the desktop there then will be XMir ... that will give you Xorg support
[15:06] <A1taiR> I see
[15:07] <A1taiR> Will it be compatible with Xorg applications?
[15:07] <ogra_> yes
[15:07] <A1taiR> Thanks!
[15:07] <ogra_> but thats 14.04 material i think
[15:07] <ogra_> so still far out
[15:07] <A1taiR> ok
[15:08] <ogra_> (the guys in #ubuntu-mir might have more details)
[15:13] <shadeslayer> rsalveti: around?
[15:14] <mhall119> kenvandine: do we have API docs for Friends and OnlineAccounts?
[15:14] <AmEv> That's weird... I'm trying to add it, but Wiki's crashing when I try to log in....
[15:15] <mhall119> AmEv: that's not relaly weird, the wiki is like that most of the time :)
[15:15] <AmEv> Haha....
[15:16] <AmEv> I have a U1 account, so I'm trying to use it.
[15:16] <AmEv> Anyone willing to help me out?
[15:16]  * mhall119 loves U1
[15:16] <mhall119> AmEv: if I can, sure
[15:17] <AmEv> Well, I'm trying to add another tablet to the WIP list.
[15:18] <AmEv> Toshuba Thrive (AT100/105) Codename Antares.
[15:18] <mhall119> ok, are you logged in?  It should have your username next to the "More Actions:" drop-down
[15:18] <kenvandine> mhall119, not yet.. there are docstrings in the code
[15:18] <AmEv> http://www.thriveforums.org/forum/pio_masaki-development/18090-wip-ubuntu-touch-thrive-development.html
[15:19] <kenvandine> but i never figured out how to generate the docs
[15:19] <kenvandine> i think i did generate them in qml-friends, but never built in a package
[15:19] <AmEv> Dev is pio_masaki.
[15:19] <mhall119> kenvandine: qdoc
[15:19] <kenvandine> i borrowed the script from ubuntu-ui-toolkit
[15:20] <AmEv> *Toshiba, not toshuba... haha
[15:20] <kenvandine> mhall119, so basically i need to add the -doc package for qml-friends and probably tidy up the docstrings
[15:20] <kenvandine> same for accounts-qml-module
[15:21] <AmEv> Trying login once more....
[15:22] <AmEv> OK, I'm logged into SSO, but when I'mtrying to Wikiize, it hangs....... argh....
[15:22] <nik90> bzoltan1: ping
[15:23] <bzoltan1> nik90: pong
[15:23] <AmEv> Ther we go!
[15:24] <nik90> bzoltan1: I wanted to ask you some question regarding TimeZone Data for the ubuntu-clock-app core apps
[15:24] <bzoltan1> nik90:  shoot
[15:24] <nik90> bzoltan1: Is there a common platform API I can use to get a list of all the timezones using qml? I basically need to provide that info to the user.
[15:25] <nik90> bzoltan1: so basically the user chooses a city for instance new york and in return I need to display the time there
[15:25] <AmEv> sigh... I was in, but changing pages logged me out....
[15:25] <mhall119> kenvandine: when you have that, let me know so we can publish it to developer.u.c
[15:25] <kenvandine> will do
[15:26] <kenvandine> mhall119, can you pull that from packages in a PPA?
[15:26] <AmEv> Wait...
[15:26] <kenvandine> i don't think i'll be able to land that in raring
[15:26] <nik90> bzoltan1: I have tried looking at tzdata where it lists all the timezones in the world but was hoping there was api already available for us to use
[15:26] <mhall119> kenvandine: I think it takes some hacking on the script, I'll check with dpm
[15:28] <AmEv> Haha... Refreshing the page helps!
[15:36] <didrocks> 16:46:28      fginther | mterry, the only option that the daily release jobs look at under a project is 'daily_release' :-)
[15:36] <didrocks> fginther: mterry -> target_branch as well
[15:36] <didrocks> as we introduced it :)
[15:36]  * fginther slaps head
[15:37] <mhall119> ogra_: rsalveti: when will we switch the daily images to Raring?
[15:37] <AmEv> It's in... How'd I do?
[15:38] <bzoltan1> nik90:  I suggest to parse this -> http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt-5-QTimeZone
[15:39] <nik90> bzoltan1: will have a look at it
[15:39] <nik90> bzoltan1: might I also ask if you have any information about obtaining the longitude and latitude (location of user) using API?
[15:40] <nik90> bzoltan1: I need the long, lat to determine the sunrise and sunset time using an online API
[15:40] <ogra_> mhall119, once there were enough tests to make sure that a) qunatal is good enough for demoing so we can freeze the last build and b) raring has no major regressions
[15:46] <AmEv> Well, I'm hoping to have this on my Thrive soon!
[15:54] <nik90> bzoltan1: on reading through QTimeZone, it seems that this is a concept being worked on and can only be expected in qt 5.1.
[16:20] <Meizirkki> hi
[16:22] <Meizirkki> If, when there is an ubuntu (the real one) booting on nexus devices, isn't is possible to use kexec to boot android
[16:22] <Meizirkki> sort of dual boot
[16:22]  * Meizirkki wishes to use android when ubuntu isn't fully fuctional
[16:23] <Meizirkki> typos, grah
[16:23] <Tassadar_> depends on the device, really
[16:24] <Tassadar_> kexec usually tends to not work with android things
[16:24] <Tassadar_> (the not modified, real kexec, there are patches which workaround some of the problems)
[16:25] <Meizirkki> hmm
[16:25] <Meizirkki> maybe the other way round? Boot android first, then kexec ubuntu if requested
[16:25] <Tassadar_> that's not the point, ubuntu will use android's kernel anyway because drivers
[16:25] <Meizirkki> I had an Nokia N810 few years back, and when an android image came around it was possible to boot Maemo from power button menu
[16:26] <Meizirkki> But aren't people working on a "real" ubuntu image as well?
[16:26] <Tassadar_> well yeah, but you need the drivers
[16:27] <Tassadar_> and drivers are probably the problem - they just aren't written with kexec in mind, so usually it freezes halfway through, with pretty much no way to debug that
[16:27] <Meizirkki> i see
[16:27] <Tassadar_> it is possible to use something called kexec-hardboot, which adds real device reboot to kexec, so that drivers and devices are properly re-initialized
[16:28] <Tassadar_> I have that working on nexus 7
[16:28] <shadeslayer> nik90: bzoltan1there's http://api.kde.org/4.10-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/classKTimeZone.html
[16:29] <shadeslayer> you could potentially a) make your app depend on libkdecore or b) copy headers
[16:29] <shadeslayer> s/headers/code/
[16:29] <Meizirkki> Tassadar_: okay
[16:33] <Oranger> mhall119: Hi ! I'm free actually so if you want you can explain me the project, thanks you in advance
[16:44] <rsalveti> shadeslayer: pong
[16:44] <shadeslayer> sigh
[16:44] <shadeslayer> rsalveti: I have good news and bad news
[16:44] <shadeslayer> rsalveti: I got the kernel to boot and I could control the backlight from the initrd
[16:44] <rsalveti> mhall119: ogra_: the call for testing will be out later today, so we can decide if we're able to switch to raring already
[16:44] <rsalveti> if so, we'll probably switch tomorrow or later this week
[16:44] <rsalveti> shadeslayer: right
[16:44] <shadeslayer> but I still can't get a serial console up
[16:45] <shadeslayer> ( using serial gadget )
[16:45] <shadeslayer> nor can I get fbcon up
[16:46] <rsalveti> ogra_: do you remember easily how to set up serial gadget to provide a terminal?
[16:46] <ogra_> shadeslayer, did you dig for mali options in the console settings of your kernel config ?
[16:46] <shadeslayer> ogra_: yes, I don't see anything obvious
[16:46] <ogra_> rsalveti, just compile it in and set console=ttyGS0 ...
[16:47] <shadeslayer> yeah, ^^ already tried like you told me a couple of hours ago :)
[16:47] <ogra_> right
[16:47] <ogra_> no magic involved ...
[16:47] <ogra_> though probably your exynos doesnt like it builting (it doesnt matter on tegra) ... so you could try a module and load it from initrd
[16:48] <ogra_> *builtin
[16:48] <shadeslayer> hmmm
[16:48] <shadeslayer> I'll try that
[16:49] <mhall119> rsalveti: perfect, let me know when you put the call out and I'll help promote it
[16:50] <shadeslayer> ogra_: fwiw : http://i.imgur.com/OYJXu7i.png && http://i.imgur.com/pRSymW5.png
[16:50] <ogra_> whats that ?
[16:51] <shadeslayer> mali GPU options that I can see
[16:51] <ogra_> ?
[16:51] <ogra_> oh
[16:51] <ogra_> is that the Xorg kernel config ?
[16:51] <rsalveti> mhall119: sure, sergiusens is taking care of that
[16:51]  * ogra_ has never seen that
[16:51] <ogra_> hard to find any options there
[16:51] <shadeslayer> that's from make xconfig :)
[16:51] <ogra_> yeah
[16:51] <shadeslayer> uses Qt
[16:52] <ogra_> never used that in my life
[16:52] <shadeslayer> :D
[16:52] <ogra_> very bad to see the options this way
[16:52] <shadeslayer> I used menuconfig earlier
[16:52] <shadeslayer> but found xconfig to be easier to use
[16:52] <shadeslayer> oh?
[16:53] <ogra_> so what is "exynos video driver support" ?
[16:53] <ogra_> did you try that ?
[16:53] <shadeslayer> I have no idea, I've been searching, haven't found anything
[16:53] <shadeslayer> I did not
[16:53] <shadeslayer> I don't want to just randomnly enable modules :P
[16:54] <ogra_> also Ion memory manager ... isnt that nvidia related ?
[16:54] <ogra_> or does that refer to a different Ion
[16:54] <shadeslayer> dunno, enabled by default, didn't bother unticking it
[16:54] <ogra_> really, you should play with the options a bit,... be brave :)
[16:55] <shadeslayer> haha
[16:55] <ogra_> alos look at console support
[16:55] <ogra_> might also miss options there
[16:55] <ogra_> (under character devices iirc)
[16:56] <shadeslayer> *facepalm*
[16:56] <shadeslayer> CONFIG_X86_PLATFORM_DEVICES  -> y
[16:56] <ogra_> fun
[16:57] <Tassadar_> what does that even mean Oo
[16:58]  * Tassadar_ googles
[17:08] <shadeslayer> ogra_: the module is just called g_serial right?
[17:09] <shadeslayer> so I modprobe g_serial on the device
[17:09] <ogra_> right
[17:09] <ogra_> from an initramfs-toolks hook or so
[17:09] <shadeslayer> oh
[17:09] <ogra_> and indeed make sure to have it in the initrd
[17:09] <shadeslayer> I was going to put it in /init :P
[17:44] <RobbyF> OT: Psy's new video hits 62 Million.
[17:55] <JanC_test> RobbyF, is it as bad as the previous one?  :p
[18:14] <RobbyF> JanC_test, yes
[18:55] <boiko> mhall119: ping
[18:55] <mhall119> boiko: pong
[18:56] <mhall119> boiko: if this is about my package-fixes branch, I pushed the fix to Vcs-Bzr
[18:56] <boiko> mhall119: ah yes, it was :)
[18:56] <mhall119> :)
[18:56] <mhall119> dalius pointed out to me that I was the blocker
[18:57] <boiko> mhall119: ok, thanks for fixing it, I'll approve it as soon as CI finishes running
[18:57] <mhall119> thanks boiko
[19:00] <t1mp> aquarius: I added a question for you to this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1166982
[19:00] <t1mp> maybe it is a question for design
[19:02] <Oranger> mhall119: Are you back ?
[19:05] <mhall119> Oranger: I am, yes
[19:05] <mhall119> popey: you around?
[19:05] <popey> ya
[19:05] <Oranger> mhall119: cool :)
[19:06] <popey> wassup?
[19:06] <mhall119> popey: Oranger is going to be joining the Document Viewer project
[19:06] <popey> excellent!
[19:06] <popey> Welcome to the mad house
[19:06] <Oranger> Hi popey !
[19:06] <popey> er, development community
[19:06] <mhall119> Oranger: first thing, before submitting any code, we need you to sign the contributor agreement: https://forms.canonical.com/contributor/
[19:07] <Oranger> Ok I do it now
[19:07] <mhall119> thanks
[19:07] <mhall119> then, we have a spec and blueprint for this project
[19:07] <mhall119> the spec is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/DocViewer
[19:08] <mhall119> and the blueprint with work items to be done is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/DocViewer
[19:08] <Oranger> Yes, I ahave already read it :)
[19:08] <popey> brb, need to reboot to test new kernel
[19:14] <Oranger> mhall119: Do I have to put your name on "Canonical Project Manager"
[19:19] <Oranger> mhall119: Ok, I did it with your name
[19:20] <mhall119> Oranger: that should be fine
[19:20] <mhall119> I'll check with the person who processes those form submissions in the morning
[19:21] <Oranger> So tomorrow ?
[19:25] <mhall119> you can start contributing any time
[19:25] <mhall119> I was just letting you know I would handle the rest
[19:26] <mhall119> so we had one other developer who was interested in contributing ot this project, but there hasn't been any code written yet except the template branch that all of the Core Apps have been using
[19:26] <mhall119> which is at lp:ubuntu-docviewer-app
[19:27] <Oranger> Ok, i'm actually trying to clone the branch in my computer. Is there something in particular I need to know before touching the code?
[19:28] <mhall119> only some QML and Javascript
[19:28] <janimo> rsalveti, sergiusens is there anything needing  extra to be done when porting to a device using ICS blobs, that is not suported by CM/JellyBean?
[19:28] <mhall119> Oranger: we're trying to stick with pure QML whenever possible, and if we need to write some C++ do that in a QML plugin in aseparate branch
[19:28] <rsalveti> janimo: hm, might not work out of the box, as there might be api issues with the binary drivers from ics
[19:29] <rsalveti> I know the cm codebase we're using supports ICS based blobs
[19:29] <rsalveti> but you might still face issues with that
[19:29] <janimo> rsalveti, ah, I thought this had been done before and there are workarounds
[19:29] <rsalveti> like lack of symbol or such
[19:29] <mhall119> Oranger: what is your Launchpad username?
[19:29] <rsalveti> janimo: yeah, cm usually brings back the old symbols/apis to support older bins
[19:29] <Oranger> My (new) username is "chocanto"
[19:30] <janimo> rsalveti, any particular thing I need to do extra so the compat mode is activated, or is it taken care of by a regular build?
[19:30] <rsalveti> janimo: that's why it might work, but it might also give you issues
[19:30] <janimo> rsalveti, ok thanks
[19:30] <mhall119> Oranger: thanks, I've added you to the development team
[19:30] <mhall119> Oranger: the basic process for developing and submitting code is documented here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/DevelopmentGuide
[19:30] <rsalveti> janimo: it should just work, the main problem is with the blobs
[19:31] <janimo> rsalveti, right, but the blobs may be involved in graphics so affecting the UI bringup right?
[19:32] <Oranger> mhall119: Ok, thanks.  Is there a feature you want to be added first ?
[19:32] <mhall119> Oranger: the first thing I would like to see is the ability to display plain text files
[19:32] <rsalveti> janimo: yup, but I saw already some devices working with ics based blobs, so it should work (at least the graphics part)
[19:32] <rsalveti> unless your blob is doing something really weird
[19:32] <janimo> rsalveti, thanks that is good to know
[19:33] <mhall119> Oranger: ideally it would accept the file path as a command-line argument, we already know that will require some C++ code, and we're hoping to get that done by a more general purpose app-launcher
[19:33] <Oranger> mhall119: Sound logical to me ^^
[19:34] <Oranger> mhall119: The ubuntu-touch-core devs are not planning to find a way to use QML to get command-line arguments ?
[19:34] <rsalveti> janimo: http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android_frameworks_av.git;a=commitdiff;h=43926620689579fd45420955ebfc548ccf57a628;hp=864a653ee757c7236f1a221942850e9a554b2827
[19:34] <rsalveti> janimo: one example of backporting an older api
[19:35] <mhall119> Oranger: the Ubuntu SDK developers are already discussing the replacement of qmlscene with something else for running these QML-only apps
[19:35] <mhall119> command-line argument parsing could be built into that
[19:35] <mhall119> we can put together a small launcher for this project until they have that though, if necessary
[19:36] <Oranger> mhall119: Ok nice
[22:48] <sergiusens> jhodapp: mind looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/touch-preview-images/+bug/1169352
[23:57] <rickspencer3> mhall119, jono_ http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/2013/04/introducing-inkcanvas.html
[23:58] <jono_> rickspencer3, nice!
[23:58] <mhall119> ah ha, grumpy cat with a mustache
[23:59] <rickspencer3> mhall119, I'm happy to find collaborators for InkCanvas
[23:59] <rickspencer3> if anyone needs that functionality, feel free to send them my way
[23:59] <mhall119> will do
[23:59] <rickspencer3> it seems like it could open up some more interactive apps
[23:59] <mhall119> yeah, a finger-painting app for kids would be cool


[12:08] <xnox> wxl:  /run
[12:08] <xnox> wxl:  if you mean the .iso casper check
[23:23] <bdmurray> ddstreet: Could you provide some rational for https://git.launchpad.net/software-properties/commit/?id=9edb4b44fa857b142e8e0df7f35db5a7877ea1c1 perhaps in debian/changelog?


[10:32] <gpgarrettboast> mad_man: Edit-Preferences->General   'Default Browser' frame
[10:32] <dv5000> mad_man: System >> Preferences >> Preferred Applications
[10:32] <pty> Boll: I didn't, but installing from source is straightforward
[10:33] <nd0627> @ everyone: can you play mp3 that's coming from a shared network flder ?
[10:33] <deceptacon> yeah
[10:33] <nickspoon> nd0627: provided you mount it, yes.
[10:33] <Boll> pty: Yeah. I just have a thing about installing non-deb-formatted stuff.
[10:33] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[10:33] <k31th> I want to dissable users getting email in the format of<EMAIL_ADDRESS>i have created virtual mail addresses for my users and dont want mail from username@ going to that users account
[10:33] <Boll> pty: Thanks anyway though.
[10:34] <asdfjkl> does anyone know how you can make your desktop be a web URL instead of a static image saved on your HDD?
[10:34] <mad_man> dv5000: thank you | easy as that
[10:34] <CromagDK> anyone into wine vs twinview ? heh :D
[10:34] <pty> Boll: no problem.  I have a thing about that too but for ql i make exceptions :)
[10:34] <marcopolo_> HEY CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH TREMULOUS?
[10:34] <nickspoon> !caps
[10:34] <CromagDK> !shout
[10:34] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:35] <Aliases>   linux-image-2.6.10-6-686 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-6-686. why is this kernel so old, and how do i get new source from apt?
[10:35] <CromagDK> Aliases: you can make a distupgrade
[10:35] <marcopolo_> well noone dows read lowercase
[10:35] <Aliases> is there unstable sources for apt?
[10:35] <CromagDK> and change sources.list to dapper
[10:35] <dv5000> mad_man: np
[10:35] <regx> Aliases, yes
[10:36] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, god damn it man, I just try to help  you but have you tried my suggestion?!
[10:36] <marcopolo_> yes, it doesn't work
[10:36] <Fingertips> hey
[10:36] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, what does it say then!?
[10:36] <marcopolo_> i pmed  you, but u ignored
[10:36] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, i pm insensitive
[10:36] <marcopolo_> it flickers the screen and terminal exits
[10:36] <Davidou> hi
[10:36] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, i.e. i don't read them
[10:37] <Aliases> i did dist-upgrade and its installing me old things, is there special unstable sources i need to add?
[10:37] <regx> Aliases, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:37] <dv5000> !test > dv5000
[10:37] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, then try this: ./tremulous.x86 > ~/tremulous.log
[10:37] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, when that is done analyse the output of the tremulous.log file
[10:37] <marcopolo_> kay, ill try
[10:37] <gpgarrettboast> Can anyone help me get my Broadcom wireless adapter working?   I tried ndiswrapper, bcm43xx, and linuxant driverloader.
[10:38] <Davidou> Do you know an application, except OOo, which can generate a PDF, with several pages (1 .jpeg->1page on the PDF) ?
[10:38] <sioux> who knows SWAT?
[10:38] <regx> Aliases, did you edit your /etc/apt/sources.list???
[10:38] <Aliases> regx, yes
[10:39] <regx> Aliases, there should be Unstabe repos in there
[10:39] <marcopolo_> this is what I get:
[10:39] <atraeyu> I just installed courier-pop and courier-smtp.  I tried login from another computer using pop but I get the following message: "Mail server responded: Maildir: No such file or directory" - apparently I need to configure something.  Does anyone know?
[10:39] <marcopolo_> ...WARNING: could not set the given mode (3)
[10:39] <marcopolo_> ----- CL_Shutdown -----
[10:39] <marcopolo_> RE_Shutdown( 1 )
[10:39] <marcopolo_> -----------------------
[10:39] <marcopolo_> ----- CL_Shutdown -----
[10:39] <marcopolo_> -----------------------
[10:39] <marcopolo_> Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
[10:39] <atraeyu> I meant courier-imap (not smtp)
[10:39] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, use pastebin next time for pasting large quantities of log lines and such
[10:40] <marcopolo_> sry
[10:40] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, did you install your graphics drivers?
[10:40] <Aliases> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' .only this: deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[10:40] <asdfjkl> anyone know a way to make a web URL your desktop background?
[10:40] <sioux> I can run SWAT with my user credential but it show me only views and descriptions is it normal?
[10:40] <marcopolo_> ya... um i had them on windows, shit i forgot to try... will they still work if they're windows drivers for nvidia?
[10:41] <s-ndh-c> someone using screem?
[10:41] <marcopolo_> i just got ubuntu
[10:41] <ompaul> !language
[10:41] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:41] <s-ndh-c> i cant get it to open a site via sftp
[10:41] <regx> Aliases, there are way more repos in that conf.. use your eyes and scroll wheel
[10:41] <pwhite> Hello, I have a bit of a noob question related to partition sizing. My /dev/sda4 partion reached 100% so I booted to the live CD and resized it although the system doesn't seem to be recognizing that fact...
[10:41] <AZzKikR> marcopolo_, no they won't, there are probably some tutorials on the web about installing drivers for your card
[10:41] <epiloc> anyone here running apache?
[10:41] <ompaul> marcopolo_, no you need to read the thing the bot is about to send you
[10:41] <ompaul> !nvidia > marcopolo_
[10:42] <AZzKikR> thanks ompaul
[10:42] <ompaul> marcopolo_, read the message from ubotu and follow that instuction
[10:42] <pwhite> After rebooting, df shows that I have 18GB in use, out of 20G although the partition shows up as 53.48GB in GParted. Any ideas?
[10:42] <ompaul> AZzKikR, ?
[10:42] <asdfjkl> anyone know a way to make a web URL your desktop background?
[10:42] <regx> epiloc, ya sup?
[10:42] <marcopolo_> thanks Azzkikr
[10:42] <Aliases> regx, there isn't, i'm not so stupid
[10:42] <AZzKikR> ompaul, for the suggestion of !nvidia
[10:42] <exs> Why doesn't anyone know anything about using ubuntu as a gateway for a windows machine so you're able to launch firefox on windows so it goes through ubuntu?.. isn't there a way?
[10:42] <ompaul> ahh
[10:42] <regx> Aliases, didnt say you were stupid.
[10:42] <Sp4rKY> please how can get recursively with ftp ?
[10:42] <Aliases> i know
[10:43] <dv5000> haha, most people whill already know this one but type "sudo apt-get moo".. just read about it
[10:43] <epiloc> regx, im having trouble setting up vhosts so that i can run 2 domains on the same machine
[10:43] <AZzKikR> dv5000, yeah, funny flag :d
[10:43] <regx> epiloc, hmm shouldnt be pretty simple..
[10:43] <regx> epiloc, i believe apache has a how to on it that is really easy to follow
[10:43] <ompaul> dv5000, install "cowsay" and do this >> cowsay  hello there dv5000
[10:43] <epiloc> regx,  where?
[10:43] <regx> epiloc, hold
[10:44] <Paddy_EIRE> hey there could anyone tell me what type of processor fan i would need for an athlonxp processr
[10:44] <epiloc> regx, the only tutorials i have found talk about editing the httpd.conf file - and in ubuntu it is empty
[10:44] <ompaul> s-ndh-c, is the far end running "openssh-server" ?
[10:44] <epiloc> regx, the folks at #apache told me its ubuntus fault ... little help over there
[10:44] <sethk> Paddy_EIRE, not sure what you mean by what type.  there are mechanical fans, solid state heat moving devices that substitute for fans, ...
[10:45] <regx> epiloc, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/examples.html
[10:45] <ompaul> epiloc, check out /etc/apache2/ it might help some
[10:45] <sethk> epiloc, there are a number of tools you can use that make it easier
[10:45] <dv5000> ompaul: haha funny but whats whit ubuntu and cows? :_
[10:45] <regx> epiloc, i never had issues.. though i did only run on on freebsd.. i dont remember doing vhosts on ubuntu
[10:45] <epiloc> sethk, please for the love of god, fill me in
[10:45] <ompaul> dv5000, super moo powers is all that is up
 jus ta basic fan that spins and cools the processor much like the one i have now
[10:46] <dv5000> ompaul: geheh ok :)
[10:46] <sethk> epiloc, for one, webmin has very nice module for apache.  unfortunately I think webmin was removed from the dapper repositories
[10:46] <epiloc> regx, that tutorial, like i said- talks about making changes to httpd.conf, in ubuntu this file is supposed to be empty
[10:46] <s-ndh-c> ompaul: sure
[10:46] <s-ndh-c> its a debian box
[10:46] <regx> epiloc, thats makes no sence...
[10:46] <ompaul> s-ndh-c, so is it behind nat or something?
[10:46] <s-ndh-c> but screem doesnt even ask for a password
[10:46] <epiloc> regx, the fact that my httpd.conf is empty ?
[10:46] <s-ndh-c> or does it only support sftp with key auth?
[10:46] <regx> epiloc, ya
[10:47] <regx> epiloc, wtf does apache read then
[10:47] <sethk> Paddy_EIRE, I'd have to look up what the form factor and connection type are for that processor, but anybody who sells fans will be able to tell you which model is for that processor
[10:47] <s-ndh-c> my private key is passphrase protected maybe thats the problem
[10:47] <asdfjkl> anyone know a way to make a web URL your desktop background?
[10:47] <sethk> epiloc, are you sure it is empty?
[10:47] <epiloc> sethk, positive
[10:47] <sethk> epiloc, for example, you didn't try to edit the file as a user who doesn't have read privileges for the file?
[10:47] <epiloc> ill paste it
[10:47] <s-ndh-c> ompaul:  no it isnt, its a server directly connected to the internet
 it s just that i have no store to buy from except for the web and emailing back and fourth is tedious
[10:48] <sethk> epiloc, that's odd, the default config file has lots of comments and such in it.
[10:48] <sethk> Paddy_EIRE, I'll see if I can put my finger on the right tech terms.
[10:48] <epiloc> sethk, it has plenty of comments
[10:48] <epiloc> but no directives
[10:48] <ompaul> epiloc, read the README file in that directory it explains it all
 no probs
[10:48] <sethk> epiloc, ok, then let's start again, because it isn't empty
[10:49] <ompaul> s-ndh-c, so can you log in via ssh?
[10:49] <sethk> epiloc, what you mean, then, is that it contains only comments?
[10:49] <s-ndh-c> ompaul:  sure
[10:49] <princemackenzie> where can i manually download the newest kernel debs?
[10:49] <epiloc> sethk, ompaul, regx, the README file in /etc/apache2 says:
[10:49] <s-ndh-c> iam logged in atm to access my irssi in screen
[10:49] <epiloc> httpd.conf
[10:49] <epiloc> 	Empty file.
[10:49] <epiloc> ?
[10:49] <ompaul> s-ndh-c, then sftp -C username@machine
[10:49] <CromagDK> !kernel
[10:49] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:49] <Fingertips> could anybody point me to some information regarding how to upgrade from the alternate version of ubuntu to the desktop version via aptitude
[10:50] <pitapiti> hi all, im having issues making my new graphics card work under x using the nvidia drivers...
[10:50] <regx> epiloc, not sure man.. thats odd... i dont understand how apache works with out its httpd.conf
[10:50] <ompaul> ompaul@homer:/etc/apache2$ wc README ::  82  293 2266 README
[10:50] <CromagDK> pitapiti: what seems to be the problem ?
[10:50] <princemackenzie> thanks
[10:50] <sethk> epiloc, you have to be consistent.  First you say it's empty, then you say it has comments in it, then again you say it's empty.  which is it?
[10:50] <asdfjkl> anyone know a way to make a web URL your desktop background?
[10:50] <s-ndh-c> ompaul:  ah it asks for the passphrase, i should use something like ssh-agent i guess
[10:50] <s-ndh-c> will try that
[10:50] <princemackenzie> my NIC won't work under the 6.06 kernel, but the newest one should work
[10:50] <ompaul> s-ndh-c, ehhhhhhhh no comment ;-)
[10:51] <sethk> princemackenzie, the newest what?  the newest kernel?
[10:51] <princemackenzie> sethk
[10:51] <pitapiti> CromagDK: it doesnt seems like the nvidia drivers are loaded because i dont get the splashscreen, and also the resolution is 640x480 although my config states 1280x1024...
[10:51] <princemackenzie> sethk, yeah
[10:51] <Gud> hi, I'm having trouble running something I compiled on ubuntu
[10:51] <Gud> bash: ./p0k3r: No such file or directory
[10:51] <Gud> but the file is there
[10:51] <Gud> anyone recognise this problem?
[10:51] <sethk> princemackenzie, you can build the latest kernel from source.  It's not difficult to do.
[10:52] <princemackenzie> sethk, my NIC won't work in the 6.06 live cd
[10:52] <CromagDK> pitapiti: and you used the guide from ubuntuguide ?
[10:52] <epiloc> sethk, I say it has comments in it, the README file says it is empty....   here is the readme
[10:52] <epiloc> sethk, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23788
[10:52] <princemackenzie> sethk, but googling seems to indicate updating will work
[10:52] <Jowi> Gud: if the file exist, make it executable "chmod +x p0k3r"
[10:52] <pitapiti> CromagDK it seems like the card isnt recognized correctly... the other one was recognized perfectly but it one just says "unknown nvidia card"
[10:52] <sethk> princemackenzie, you are sure that you need a newer kernel, not just different kernel build options?
[10:52] <CromagDK> pitapiti: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[10:53] <asdfjkl> anyone know a way to make a web URL your desktop background?
[10:53] <Fingertips>  could anybody point me to some information regarding how to upgrade from the alternate version of ubuntu to the desktop version via aptitude
[10:53] <princemackenzie> sethk, mind if i PM?
[10:53] <th1ef> hello how i can i install EMACS on Ubuntu??
[10:53] <pitapiti> CromagDK: ive been looking around for info, which guide are you refering to?
[10:53] <CromagDK> pitapiti: 2 gfx cards ?
[10:53] <sethk> princemackenzie, no, I don't mind
[10:53] <awe6> I've just unpacked a 750 gig USB drive intended for Network Storage.  Anyone know how to get it mounted?
[10:53] <russell> not an ubuntu question but, if i ad-hoc 2 routers i can get internet off of one onto the other right?
[10:53] <asdfjkl> th1ef: sudo apt-get install xemacs21
[10:53] <Fingertips>  could anybody point me to some information regarding how to upgrade from the alternate version of ubuntu to the desktop version via aptitude
[10:53] <ProsperoMeridion> thlef, EMACS 21 I guess
[10:53] <Rug> Can kopete import account settings from gaim?
[10:53] <th1ef> yes
[10:53] <barata> hi xubuntu users ... do you also have synaptic by default?
[10:53] <sethk> epiloc, that looks like a readme from debian
[10:53] <CromagDK> pitapiti: i posted the link before: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[10:54] <Fingertips>  could anybody point me to some information regarding how to upgrade from the alternate version of ubuntu to the desktop version via aptitude
[10:54] <Rug> awe6: it's easy
[10:54] <pitapiti> CromagDK: no only one, i had a geforce 4 mx 420, i upgraded to a dual display geforce 6200, but i still only have one monitor and im not configuring anything for dual yet
[10:54] <epiloc> sethk, the httpd.conf file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23789
[10:54] <sethk> barata, you have nothing "by default".  a certain set of packages is installed, depending on which install type you did
[10:54] <ProsperoMeridion> thlef, yes you can
[10:54] <Rug> awe6: step 1 is partition and format
[10:54] <th1ef> how?
[10:54] <Fingertips>  could anybody point me to some information regarding how to upgrade from the alternate version of ubuntu to the desktop version via aptitude
[10:54] <barata> sethk, how can we really choose what to install?
[10:54] <sethk> barata, if something isn't there, you simply use apt-get to install it.  So "by default" doesn't really apply.
[10:54] <CromagDK> pitapiti: ok, twin view is what its called when nvidia
[10:54] <ProsperoMeridion> from package manager
[10:55] <sethk> barata, use one of the other install modes, such as oem install, on the alternate cd
[10:55] <ProsperoMeridion> synaptic
[10:55] <awe6> Rug: At the momemnt, the computer doesn't even know the drive exists.  I was hoping something would pop up like a thumb drive does.
[10:55] <barata> thanks sethk
[10:55] <epiloc> ok, so does anyone here run Ubuntu + Apache?
[10:55] <sethk> epiloc, repeating, the README looks like a readme from debian
[10:55] <CromagDK> pitapiti: but you have put in another card now without new drivers correct ?
[10:55] <awe6> Rug: I know how to partition and format but first I have to see the drive.
[10:55] <pitapiti> CromagDK: yeah but I dont want any of that.. yet. do i still need to set it up even if its for only one monitor?
[10:55] <asdfjkl> anyone know a way to make a web URL your desktop background?
[10:55] <CromagDK> pitapiti: not twin view no.
[10:55] <Rug> awe6: How is the device connected to your system?
[10:55] <ProsperoMeridion> thlef: yes, from synaptic
[10:55] <epiloc> sethk, that was the httpd.conf file, must have linked the wrong paste
[10:55] <CromagDK> pitapiti: thats only for 2 monitors
[10:56] <awe6> Rug: Via a USB cable to a USB hub, connected to a Kubuntu 6.06 computer.
[10:56] <BHSPitMonkey> BIG PROBLEM.  I can't mount removable media (CD's, etc) as User.  pmount/mount isn't working.
[10:56] <pitapiti> CromagDK: i simply replaced my old nvidia apg for a new one
[10:56] <sethk> awe6, if the required kernel modules are active, it will be automatically detected.  however, since there is no usable file system on it yet, it can't be mounted.
[10:56] <CromagDK> pitapiti: and now it wont find it ?
[10:56] <pitapiti> CromagDK: thats correct
[10:56] <Fingertips>  could anybody point me to some information regarding how to upgrade from the alternate version of ubuntu to the desktop version via aptitude
[10:56] <CromagDK> pitapiti: ok. one moment
[10:57] <sethk> awe6, the output of dmesg (at the end) will tell you what drive it is detected as, as in sda, sdb, etc.
[10:57] <th1ef> how can i install aMSN on ubuntu??
[10:57] <shwag> how do I customize my apache error pages, such as the Authorization Required page?
[10:57] <Fingertips>  could anybody point me to some information regarding how to upgrade from the alternate version of ubuntu to the desktop version via aptitude
[10:57] <ProsperoMeridion> Can anybody tell me if upgrading to Dapper from Breezy via LiveCD will keep my applications and settings?
[10:57] <CromagDK> th1ef: sudo apt-get install amsn
[10:57] <th1ef> thx
[10:57] <mrbrdo> which mp3 players can play shoutcast streams, except xmms (or xmms can't either)?
[10:58] <ProsperoMeridion> thlef: use synaptic; in general check first synaptic or try automatix
[10:58] <th1ef> CromagDK: not working
[10:59] <nickspoon> ProsperoMeridion: why don't you just switch all your Breezy repositories to Dapper ones and do an apt-get upgrade?
[10:59] <nickspoon> !upgrade
[10:59] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:59] <asdfjkl> anyone know a way to make a web URL your desktop background?
[10:59] <CromagDK> th1ef: get an error ?
[10:59] <ProsperoMeridion> thanls ubotu
[11:00] <CromagDK> th1ef: and are you remembering to use universe repos?
[11:00] <th1ef> CromagDK:  yes im gettin an error
[11:00] <CromagDK> th1ef: what is the error
[11:00] <Fingertips> i am having some problems with ubuntu not allowing me to go to a native resolution i.e. 1280x1024.  any reccomendations? i have already installed the latest fglrx drivers
[11:01] <CromagDK> pitapiti: might read this http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[11:01] <th1ef> CromagDK:  E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:01] <CromagDK> and synaptics is open
[11:01] <CromagDK> close it :)
[11:01] <CromagDK> and try again
[11:02] <Fingertips> i am having some problems with ubuntu not allowing me to go to a native resolution i.e. 1280x1024.  any reccomendations? i have already installed the latest fglrx drivers
[11:02] <pitapiti> CromagDK: thanks im looking it up
[11:02] <epiloc> is anyone here running apache+ubuntu?
[11:02] <keegan_> Hellow everyone! I was compiling the new Thunar 4.1 for Xubuntu, but when I go to do it to thunar I do "sh autogen.sh" and it goes, but it stops at "Couldn't find package tar-ustar" Does anyone know what that is, or how I can fix this?
[11:02] <CromagDK> pitapiti: tell me thanks if it works
[11:02] <Hor|zon> epiloc, me? lol XD
[11:02] <lupine_85> well, apache 2
[11:02] <epiloc> Hor|zon, !!!
[11:03] <Fingertips> i am having some problems with ubuntu not allowing me to go to a native resolution i.e. 1280x1024.  any reccomendations? i have already installed the latest fglrx drivers
[11:03] <epiloc> Hor|zon, are you hosting 2 domain names by chance?
[11:03] <lupine_85> epiloc: you need to set up virtual servers if that's what you want to do. pretty easy - check out apache's website
[11:03] <regx> RAWR!
[11:04] <epiloc> lupine_85, you are the 10th person to say that
[11:04] <CromagDK> th1ef: get it working ?
[11:04] <th1ef> yes
[11:04] <th1ef> thx
[11:04] <CromagDK> np
[11:04] <keegan_> Hellow everyone! I was compiling the new Thunar 4.1 for Xubuntu, but when I go to do it to thunar I do "sh autogen.sh" and it goes, but it stops at "Couldn't find package tar-ustar" Does anyone know what that is, or how I can fix this?
[11:04] <anubis> ola
[11:04] <epiloc> lupine_85, I go to the tutoriuals, and they dont line up with my configuration whatsoever
[11:04] <lupine_85> do you have site-available/ and sites-enabled/ ?
[11:04] <lupine_85> erm, sites-available/
[11:05] <epiloc> lupine_85, the guys at #apache told me that ubuntu screws up the config files upon installation
[11:05] <epiloc> lupine_85, yes
[11:05] <awe6> sethk: There is no indication that the USB system is even seeing the drive.  I've searched /var/log
[11:05] <lupine_85> works fine here
[11:05] <jrib> epiloc: did they say /how/ it does so?
[11:05] <epiloc> lupine_85, is your httpd.conf empty?
[11:05] <lupine_85> yes, and it should be
[11:05] <epiloc> jrib, no they were no help at all
[11:05] <lupine_85> in apache2.conf
[11:05] <lupine_85> ...
[11:05] <epiloc> lupine_85, OMG YOU ARe the first one to say that
[11:06] <epiloc> lupine_85, about 6 people told me i was insane
[11:06] <aholland> enemy territory loads with sound but only loads a black screen .... need help
[11:06] <awe6> sethk: I'm going to eliminate the hub first.
[11:06] <Fingertips> gosh darn.. ive already installed fglrx drivers for my ati x800, and yet it wont let me upgrade to native monitor resolution and windows are laggy..
[11:06] <lupine_85> hehe. last line of apache2.conf is an "include". Just before it, add "NameVirtualHost *"
[11:06] <lupine_85> then in each sites-available/ script...
[11:06] <lupine_85> erm, not script, you know what I mean
[11:06] <aquarius> how do I find the mimetype for a file?
[11:06] <epiloc> lupine_85, yes i do!!!
[11:06] <epiloc> lupine_85, the file that has no name :)
[11:06] <asdfjkl> anyone know a way to make a web URL your desktop background?
[11:06] <keegan_> Does anyone know where I can get Tar-ustar?
[11:06] <Aliases> is edgy is the unstable sources of ubuntu?
[11:06] <jrib> aquarius: mimedb
[11:07] <epiloc> lupine_85, continue
[11:07] <Fingertips> somebody! ive already installed fglrx drivers for my ati x800, and yet it wont let me upgrade to native monitor resolution and windows are laggy..
[11:07] <ompaul> Aliases, yes
[11:07] <lupine_85> you want <VirtualHost *> </VirtualHost> tags...
[11:07] <aquarius> jrib: yeah, I know there *is* a mime database, I don't know how to access it...
[11:07] <Aliases> great
[11:07] <jrib> aquarius: wait that doesn't seem to be standard, the 'fish' package provides a mimdb binary
[11:07] <epiloc> lupine_85, join #epiloc ?
[11:07] <epiloc> lupine_85, i cant /msg
[11:07] <jrib> aquarius: mimedb  I mean
[11:07] <princemackenzie> fingertips, its a mess, you need to install the ati drivers as well
[11:07] <keegan_> I'm guessing then that tar-ustar isn't on ubuntu...
[11:07] <CromagDK> !tar-ustar
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tar-ustar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <aquarius> jrib: ah. Is there no way to read it without installing fish?
[11:08] <Hor|zon> lupine_85, lol he's already using the sites-available way for his current domain so it's gonna be messy if he suddenly switches to apache2.conf
[11:08] <CromagDK> !thunar
[11:08] <ubotu> thunar: File Manager for Xfce. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.0+r21789-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 368 kB, installed size 2632 kB
[11:08] <green__saotome> when my computer is booting, the process gets interrupted half way and it complains about the "LVM Groups" and displays some errors. This adds about a minute or two to the boot up process and it's constant (yes i'm complaining about an insignificant amount of time). Any idea on how to fix this?
[11:09] <jrib> aquarius: I've looked it up in python scripts so you could write a quick script.  I'm sure there is another way but I am not familiar with it
[11:09] <keegan_> Thats thunar 3,0 I'm trying to get 4.1
[11:09] <aquarius> jrib: ok, off to python it is
[11:10] <ikonia> is there a tool in the ubuntu archive the same as "firetune" or something for performane tuning firefox eg: max connections getting set correct
[11:10] <awe6> sethk: Bad news.  Syslog reports: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 183143645 1:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
[11:11] <tj_> does anyody know how to change the defau;t language through the terminal?
[11:12] <Stevo> who's running Ubuntu 6.06?
[11:12] <jimmygoon> me
[11:12] <tj_> me too
[11:12] <green__saotome> me
[11:13] <Stevo> have ya'll messed with the wireless settings at all?
[11:13] <wastrel> hi
[11:13] <jimmygoon> yea
[11:13] <tj_> ya
[11:13] <Stevo> what app are you using?
[11:13] <tj_> network-manager-gnome
[11:13] <green__saotome> yeah, there's also netapplet
[11:13] <tj_> or ndiswrapper
[11:13] <jimmygoon> network-manager-gnome doesn't work with my card so I use the built in, netapplet, and sometimes if I'm sniffing... kismet and/or ethereal
[11:14] <joe_> A new install of warty doesn't detect blank cd-r's.
[11:14] <joe_> I'm quite sure that the disks are ok (they work on other machines, were purchased today)
[11:14] <nd0627_> how do you decrypt pgp email ?
[11:14] <nd0627_> how do you decrypt pgp email in ubuntu ?
[11:14] <joe_> so, pointers to documentation on cd burner configuration would be helpful
[11:14] <churri> ist
[11:14] <Stevo> the network i'm connecting to is allowing me to connect, but i cannot acquire an ip..  any ideas as to what i'm doing wrong?  i've used ndiswrapper to install the driver, and wpasupplicant because i assumed after reading some things, that you needed it to connect with WPA..
[11:15] <princemackenzie> sethk, i believe i found the link to manually download the latest kernel
[11:15] <tj_> try network-manager-gnome, it's the simplest imo
[11:15] <Commander-Crowe> how do I hide my IP
[11:16] <asdfjkl> anyone know a way to make a web URL your desktop background?
[11:16] <jrib> Commander-Crowe: use a proxy
[11:16] <Commander-Crowe> just so the IRC can't see it
[11:16] <jrib> !cloak
[11:16] <Commander-Crowe> how?
[11:16] <ubotu> Tor & other common anonymizing proxies get abused to attack & spam Ubuntu channels, so they're blocked. Get a cloak from Freenode instead, and stop wasting your time with Tor: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[11:16] <Stevo> tj> i have found it to be the best, although the only other app i tried was Wifi Radar..  net-man-gnome will either say i have 100% connection or 0%, either way, i can't acquire an IP to save my life..
[11:16] <jrib> is that jab at Tor really necessary...?
[11:17] <jrib> aquarius: ok close python, you may want gnomevfs-info
[11:17] <green__saotome> when my computer is booting, the process gets interrupted half way and it complains about the "LVM Groups" and displays some errors. This adds about a minute or two to the boot up process and it's constant (yes i'm complaining about an insignificant amount of time). Any idea on how to fix this?
[11:18] <Commander-Crowe> the point is so that I can log into a channel that I was banned from
[11:18] <Stevo> all right..  thanks anyway.
[11:18] <twsbh2005> hi, I have a problem with loading ubuntu on to my computer, it doesn't recognize my SATA drive. what should I do??
[11:18] <Stevo> late
[11:19] <krazykit> gya.  i just installed ati-drivers, and when i go to fullscreen in mplayer, it changes my LCD's resolution.  how do i stop that?
[11:19] <lupine_85> twsbh2005: build your own kernel, or wait for the ubuntu devs to do it for you (edgy?)
[11:19] <tj_> has anybody here tried edgy yet? and if so, have you had any troubles w/ language support?
[11:19] <jester45> can anyone help me with changeing my background i had a picture as a background but for some unknown reason it will not change to the picture it is stuck on a gradient
[11:19] <krazykit> tj_: #ubuntu+1
[11:19] <aquarius> jrib: I just looked in /etc/mime.types in the end. :)
[11:19] <twsbh2005> I don't know how to do that
[11:19] <jimmygoon> tj_ I haven't tried anything but "english" but i didn't have any problems
[11:19] <Stevo> jester> try reloading X
[11:19] <jester45> i did
[11:20] <Stevo> past that is beyond me.  sorry.
[11:20] <bunny> awhile ago i randomly deleted some reg entries to try to make my old ipod updater work so i can install ipodlinux, but now i got it working, itunes wont run, and says like
[11:20] <jester45> could it be that my desktop is smaller than teh picuture
[11:20] <jester45> the*
[11:20] <bunny> unexpected error and closes, can someone help me?
[11:20] <tj_> jimmygoon: it wont stop switching to en-CA, which causes some errors
[11:20] <jimmygoon> oh...
[11:20] <jimmygoon> where do you check what its set on?
[11:20] <tj_> while upgrading
[11:20] <jimmygoon> I will look next time I boot into to see if its set on en-US or e-CA
[11:21] <jimmygoon> ah
[11:22] <twsbh2005> hi, I have a problem with loading ubuntu on to my computer, it doesn't recognize my SATA drive. what should I do?? and how do I do it?
[11:22] <Milktea> I can't find out how to use SCIM
[11:22] <mrbrdo> which programs can play SHOUTcast streams?
[11:22] <Milktea> and I've read !scim
[11:22] <keepsakes> does anyone have backup registry entries for itunes?
[11:22] <ikonia> how can I change the icon sizes on the desktop globally
[11:22] <ikonia> they are massive
[11:23] <shoe> when I try to load synaptic, I get the following error: "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. "
[11:23] <Milktea> shoe
[11:23] <Milktea> open terminal
[11:23] <Milktea> type
[11:23] <Milktea> dpkg --configure -a
[11:23] <jimmygoon> shoe: hit "Alt+F2" and then type "gnome-terminal"
[11:23] <junkphreak> ;]
[11:23] <jimmygoon> and then type "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[11:23] <jimmygoon> milktea: I'm assuming that command probably requires sudo?
[11:23] <twsbh2005> hi, I have a problem with loading ubuntu on to my computer, it doesn't recognize my SATA drive. what should I do?? and how?? someone please?
[11:24] <keepsakes> sudo? um, what exactly IS sudo?
[11:24] <CromagDK> !sudo
[11:24] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:24] <Kill_X> ompaul, do you read?
[11:24] <Milktea> su stands for super user
[11:24] <keepsakes> isnt it the same as typing in su?
[11:24] <Gnelg> twsbh2005, what motherboard and sata drive do you have
[11:24] <Milktea> yeah
[11:24] <kismet_> anyone know if a WinXP 'Map Network Drive' uses SMB?
[11:24] <twsbh2005> shuttle
[11:24] <junkphreak> and to understand more so #man sudo
[11:24] <CromagDK> yes but sudo is for a period
[11:25] <keepsakes> oh
[11:25] <keepsakes> k
[11:25] <twsbh2005> don't know exactly what dive it is
[11:25] <tj_>  keepsakes: sudo something is SUpersuser DO something
[11:25] <J-_> do i have to reinstall CUPS to make a new username and password? I tried to install my lexmark x2330 printer which is not supported so i made up a username and password then, and now i can't figure out what it is...
[11:25] <princemackenzie> sethk, i got it!
[11:25] <princemackenzie> sethk, it only takes a 'modprobe marvell
[11:25] <keepsakes> i realised, heh
[11:26] <keepsakes> um... how can i install network manager for ubuntu? i tried installing the packs, but after i got libc -> tzdata, tzdata wont install
[11:26] <Gnelg> twsbh2005, and which ubuntu or you trying to load, dapper, breezy...?
[11:26] <shoe> rofl. sorry. i had done that already. My real question was even more ignorant. How do i login as superuser? kudos to whoever answers the question one letter at a...
[11:26] <shoe> t
[11:26] <shoe> i
[11:26] <shoe> m
[11:26] <shoe> e
[11:26] <princemackenzie> s
[11:26] <princemackenzie> u
[11:26] <princemackenzie> d
[11:26] <princemackenzie> o
[11:26] <princemackenzie> s
[11:26] <princemackenzie> u
[11:26] <twsbh2005> dapper
[11:27] <tj_> keepsakes: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome (my favorite)
[11:27] <claudio> I downloaded skype but I can't install it. I tryed apt-get instal 'package'...
[11:27] <J-_> do i have to reinstall CUPS to make a new username and password? I tried to install my lexmark x2330 printer which is not supported so i made up a username and password then, and now i can't figure out what it is
[11:27] <keepsakes> tj_, i tried that, it couldnt find package
[11:27] <ompaul> Kill_X, I have been known to
[11:27] <tj_> have you added the extra repos.?
[11:27] <keepsakes> how do i do that?
[11:28] <keepsakes> and which ones do i add?
[11:28] <jimmygoon> shoe: an easier one is "sudo -s"
[11:28] <Kill_X> ompaul, well, did you get my query messages?
[11:28] <tj_> keepsakes: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[11:28] <Loevborg> What to do when printing a .pdf in evince doesn't work?
[11:28] <Gnelg> twsbh2005, Is the drive being detected, what does it have on it now?
[11:28] <J-_> =\
[11:28] <keepsakes> thanks, ill take a look at it
[11:28] <tj_> keepsakes: just follow that guide and you should find the repos, as well as many other interesting htings
[11:28] <Kill_X> ompaul, I like to clear things up, you know... :S
[11:28] <ompaul> Kill_X, I have so many windows open they were not visible I'll look at them in a moment - somehthing on the boil
[11:28] <keepsakes> kk
[11:29] <J-_> do i have to reinstall CUPS to make a new username and password? I tried to install my lexmark x2330 printer which is not supported so i made up a username and password then, and now i can't figure out what it is
[11:29] <twsbh2005> no its not being detected. but I have a wd 200gb that I have put three partitions on, the other two are working fine with two operating systems on them. I want to put ubuntu on the last one
[11:29] <keepsakes> doesnt ubuntu need its own partition?
[11:29] <keepsakes> cause of like, ext2 or something?

[11:30] <twsbh2005> keepsakes no, but I'm going to have three os's on it
[11:30] <Gnelg> twsbh2005, Your using a live cd right?  and is this x86 or x86_64
[11:30] <Kill_X> ompaul, thanks. So I will be afk for about 5 minutes...
[11:30] <keepsakes> kk
[11:30] <tj_> twsbh2005: does it boot from the cd?
[11:31] <twsbh2005> x86_64
[11:31] <keepsakes> oh and tj_, which part should i look at? the dd starter guide is so long
[11:31] <twsbh2005> yeah I'm on it right now
[11:31] <J-_> i forget my username and password for CUPS, can I reinstall the software so i can do so>
[11:31] <tj_> \keepsakes: it has a section that involves the repos, it should be near the top
[11:31] <twsbh2005> I'm just confused that its not recognizing it.
[11:32] <keepsakes> k thanks, and how do you whisper btw?
[11:32] <Gnelg> twsbh2005, so you can boot to the live cd and then start the install and that's when it doesn't see the sata drive?
[11:32] <tj_> twsbh2005: then try using gnome partition editor (system-administration-gnome partition editor)
[11:32] <twsbh2005> yep
[11:33] <twsbh2005> it freezes at the time that its recongnizing any drives
[11:33] <tj_> twsbh2005: see if that sees it
[11:33] <princemackenzie> i spent hours troubleshooting why my nic didn't work, and then a "modprobe marvell" took care of all of it.
[11:33] <tj_> twsbh2005: in that case i have no idea, sry
[11:33] <princemackenzie> has anyone else encountered such silliness
[11:33] <twsbh2005> it doesn't work.
[11:33] <twsbh2005> sad.
[11:33] <Gnelg> are the current partitions visible when in the live environment
[11:33] <twsbh2005> nope
[11:34] <Gnelg> have you tried mounting them
[11:34] <twsbh2005> nope...how would I do that
[11:34] <twsbh2005> I'm good in windows, but I'm new at linux
[11:35] <keepsakes> does anyone know which repos. i should dl for like, network stuff?
[11:35] <twsbh2005> how can I mount them?
[11:35] <boink> man mount
[11:36] <twsbh2005> yah
[11:36] <Gnelg> have to find out what the partitions are seen as before you can mount
[11:36] <twsbh2005> how do I do that
[11:37] <HesNikke> ok, i'm trying to set up xgl - 3d desktops and whatnot
[11:37] <HesNikke> anyone have any experiance with that?
[11:37] <tj_> HesNikke: i have some, but not much
[11:37] <HesNikke> tj_
[11:38] <HesNikke> i'm pretty sure i followed the directions at http://justpretending.net/wp/2006/08/14/new-and-improved-enable-xglcompiz-on-ubuntu-dapper-drake/
[11:38] <HesNikke> but when i log in, things load and then the screen goes black
[11:38] <HesNikke> with a pointer
[11:38] <Gnelg> twsbh2005, give me a bit having to use work laptop on xp, getting a live cd iso downloaded atm
[11:38] <xvxvx> when trying to edit a file it says "timestamp too far in the future" but thats just because the clock got screwed up between boots, how do i fix this?
[11:38] <HesNikke> my xprograms are still running (as top in a console tells me)
[11:38] <HesNikke> the only way i can get out is to control-alt-backspace
[11:39] <HesNikke> - reset the xserver
[11:39] <twsbh2005> ok....
[11:39] <nd0627_> @everyone how do you decrypt a pgp key ?
[11:39] <nd0627_> @everyone how do you decrypt a pgp email ?
[11:39] <tj_> HesNikke: what graphics card do you have?
[11:39] <mabus> nd0627_, Use an easy client like Evolution.
[11:40] <inglor> quick question, how do I 'autoscroll' in ubuntu?
[11:40] <inglor> anyone>
[11:41] <keepsakes> which repositories should i download?
[11:41] <HesNikke> radeon 9550
[11:41] <lupine_85> erm, none of them? :p
[11:41] <inglor> quick question, how do I 'autoscroll' in ubuntu?
[11:41] <eternalswd> does anyone know where xchat-remote is found?
[11:41] <HesNikke> using the ati 8.26.18 preprietery drivers
[11:42] <tj_> hesnikke: do you have 3d acceleration?
[11:43] <jpjacobs> eternalswd, see output of whereis xchat-remote?
[11:43] <HesNikke> fglrxinfo says i should
[11:43] <HesNikke> any simple way to test it?
[11:43] <eternalswd> it's loaded properly in xchat, but whereis xchat-remote doesn't find it
[11:44] <tj_> hesnikke: fglrxinfo is what i use to test
[11:44] <tj_> hesnikke: i'll see if i can find you a better guiide
[11:44] <__mikem> I know this is a stupid question, but is writing random data to the framebuffer dangerous?
[11:45] <tokenbad> ok am confused...
[11:45] <tokenbad> I mounted an 80 gig drive
[11:45] <tokenbad> put 1.7 gigs onto it..and it says only have 1 gig free space
[11:46] <jpjacobs> tokenbad, what partitions are on it? And which filesystems?
[11:46] <J-_> do I have to reinstall CUPS to add a new username and password? when i tried to install my lexmark, i made a username and password and fuckin forget it now
[11:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !language
[11:47] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:47] <J-_> sorry =X
[11:47] <jpjacobs> J-_, can't you reset it by adding sudo to the command?
[11:47] <jester45> has anyone here played cube
[11:47] <tokenbad> jpjacobs, should be ext3...I based on someones suggestion did: sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdd1
[11:47] <Jack_Sparrow> jester, yes
[11:47] <Jack_Sparrow> jester45: Sauerbratten is better.
[11:48] <J-_> jpjacobs: im not using a command
[11:48] <jester45> is sauerbratten a fps
[11:48] <jpjacobs> J-_, oh well, what are you doing anyway?
[11:48] <Jack_Sparrow> jester45: YEs, same group made it
[11:48] <tj_> hesnikke: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168618 is the one i used, and it worked for me
[11:48] <tokenbad> whats command to list drives
[11:48] <tokenbad> not mount
[11:48] <tokenbad> but other
[11:48] <J-_> http://localhost:631/ adding printer
[11:48] <tokenbad> ahh..df -h
[11:49] <SuperMiguel> have any one here tested the 2.16 gnome?
[11:49] <jpjacobs> tokenbad, and does hdd1 contain the whole HD or is it perhaps only one patrtition (doing fdisk -l /dev/hdd) will show all partitions
[11:49] <jester45> Jack_Sparrow: would you happen to know the apt-get for it then
[11:49] <SuperMiguel> have any?
[11:49] <Jack_Sparrow> jester45: No apt get, lettme look..
[11:49] <HesNikke> thanks, i'll give it a shot
[11:50] <SuperMiguel> have any one tested the new gnome?
[11:50] <Gnelg> twsbh2005 try doing this in terminal fdisk -l
[11:50] <J-_> screw it, i'll just reinstall ubuntu to do it
[11:50] <Jack_Sparrow> jester45: http://sauerbraten.org/
[11:50] <tokenbad> jpjacobs, that command says can't open hdd
[11:50] <Gnelg> twsbh2005 what does it show
[11:51] <tokenbad> jpjacobs, got it
[11:51] <tokenbad> seems like more that one partition...
[11:51] <jpjacobs> tokenbad, try with sudo then (and that's -L but then not capital, not -I or -1 ;))
[11:51] <jester45> Jack_Sparrow: thanks just got my video card 3d inabled and want to try some games now
[11:51] <RvGaTe> are the community docs down ?
[11:52] <mrbrdo> is there ANY way to disable SHIFT+BACKSPACE combination?
[11:52] <kismet_> anyone know if the WinXP 'Map Network Drive' functions thru SMB?
[11:52] <jtf0518> 903 people in here? God, I'm getting agoraphobia just thinking about it.
[11:52] <jtf0518> yes, Map Network Drive uses SMB
[11:53] <kismet_> good good good, thanks jtf0518
[11:53] <HesNikke> O_o
[11:53] <jtf0518> so if you have the full Samba loaded on your Ubuntu computer Windows can map to it from Explorer.
[11:53] <HesNikke> my pointer is stuck on the right 2/3 of my screen
[11:53] <mrbrdo> please someone, how to disable SHIFT+BACKSPACE
[11:53] <jtf0518> your welcome, kismet
[11:53] <mrbrdo> it's driving me nuts
[11:53] <tj_> so does anybody know how to change the system langualge from en-CA to en from the command line?
[11:53] <jester45> does anyone know if sourceforge randomly picks mirrors or are they based on ping
[11:54] <HesNikke> killall gnome-window-decorator
[11:54] <HesNikke> wait
[11:54] <HesNikke> gnome-window-decorator & DISPLAY=:1
[11:54] <HesNikke> compiz --replace gconf
[11:54] <HesNikke> #fixes the shift-backspace bug
[11:54] <HesNikke> xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us
[11:54] <HesNikke> d'oh
[11:54] <HesNikke> i wanted to paste that last line
[11:54] <HesNikke> sorry
[11:54] <ompaul> !xgl
[11:54] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:54] <HesNikke> mrbrdo, see the xmodmap line
[11:54] <Hor|zon> lol why are you using gnome-window-decorator when there's cgwd?
[11:54] <mrbrdo> HesNikke: where should i put it?
[11:55] <HesNikke> joins #ubuntu-xgl
[11:55] <inglor> any way to use autoscroll in linux>
[11:55] <HesNikke> uh
[11:55] <mrbrdo> HesNikke: and does that disable it all together?
[11:55] <mrbrdo> HesNikke: or it still logs out?
[11:55] <tokenbad> there is no way to combine ext3 partitions into one partition?
[11:55] <HesNikke> thats a shellscript  for starting up compiz
[11:55] <mrbrdo> HesNikke: can u come to ubuntu-xgl plz
[11:55] <HesNikke> k
[11:56] <jester45> Is it a bad thing if when i turn my speakers on full and turn on both subs my circuit breaker blows
[11:56] <conrad-c2d> Does anyone know how to assemble a raid partition without the uuid handy?
[11:57] <jester45> 904 peoples on the room
[11:57] <elionor> hi there.... i'm having a small problem. My screen offset is off. I can adjust it with xvidtune fine, but using that modeline in xorg.conf does not seem to work? why does xvidtune (apply) work, but xorg.conf does not?
[11:57] <atraeyu> Has anyone installed roundcube-webmail?  I'm getting a DB error and I think it's because of a pear dependency ... but I'm not sure what to do.
[11:58] <brendonjt> kia ora  one and all
[11:58] <Qu1ckFr0st> im having some problem with text showing up in java programs
[11:58] <Qu1ckFr0st> anyone know anything about that?
[11:58] <tokenbad> there is no way to combine ext3 partitions into one partition?
[11:58] <lupine_85> tokenbad: not without data loss, I'd imagine
[11:59] <tokenbad> lupine_85, thats fine...as said..want the drive empy
[11:59] <DaveyJ> heyo i'm in xubuntu and i'm trying to add some partitions to my new disks.. the create partition option is disabled.. how od i go about formatting these disks?
[11:59] <lupine_85> you could do a Towers of Hanoi combination, I guess
[11:59] <tokenbad> but want it in all 1 partition
[11:59] <jtf0518> you can delete one of the ext3 partitions and resize the other in the partition manager but don't delete the system partition.
[12:00] <lupine_85> tokenbad: ever tried the towers of hanoi?
[12:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !opengl
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <tokenbad> lupine_85, what is that