[17:04] <nvz> e75: personally I like things ubuntu has to offer, but I am sticking with debian until they realize they can't release a 30,000+ package distro pulling in MAJOR VERSION upgrades of software suites like GNOME that are over 500 packages themselves on a TIME based schedule every 6mo
[17:04] <brjannc> jsick3: hehe, no problem. okay, we should be able to force it to show a menu. what version of ubuntu are you using?
[17:05] <nvz> e75: I still use debian, and for anyone I install ubuntu for, I keep them on natty
[17:05] <jsick3> brjannc: it's 11.10, booting into kubuntu if that matters
[17:05] <brjannc> jsick3: ok, one sec
[17:07] <donavan01> anyone know what the best verzion of ubuntu I can run on a Mac G5 with PPC and also where I can download it Canonical I guess stopped offically supporting it
[17:07] <nvz> e75: if you combined the 5 largest software companies in the world and used all their money profits aside, you'd be hard pressed to release anything worthwhile on the timeframe this distro works on.. most software companies take 2 years or more to press out a game much less an OS, none of which are the size, complexity, or used as productively as this is.. and still suck I might add.. heh.. so clearly when its ready makes more sense th
[17:07] <e75> nvz: also, gnome-default-applcations-properties isn't found. hmm actually i remembered i setup a new router to handle pppoe. brb. switching to kde. yeah, right off hand i'd think it'd be a good idea to release ubuntu with several flavors: kde, gnome, conservative & stable, etc. but that'd be a bit of work.
[17:08] <brjannc> jsick3: okay, run: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[17:08] <e75> nvz: are you referring to debian or ubuntu?
[17:09] <dewilman> hey
[17:09] <jsick3> brjannc: heh, well. this isn't my computer; it's a coworkers. he's not here and we need to access stuff on his machine. i can't seem to do anything as guest. that's why i'm trying to do this.
[17:09] <brjannc> jsick3: Ohh. well, that limits our options somewhat ;)
[17:09] <jsick3> brjannc: indeed :P
[17:10] <e75> nvz: plus i'd think big gpl projects can push out software quicker since they can fork code legally. ahh, one of the many joys of freedom of knowledge and creativity
[17:10] <e75> now, brb
[17:10] <ai9371> hello
[17:11] <ai9371> anyone have experience with rvm on ubuntu
[17:11] <nvz> e75: I'm saying that its no surprise to me that ubuntu 11.10 looks like its for special needs children and the fact that any other way of using it is horridly broken is no surprise to me because there is just no way in the reality of things, you could've assured all these changes worked in 6mo
[17:11] <Midasx> Anyone know hot to change the keymap on Ubuntu 11.04 from the terminal? I need to get it to be English not USA
[17:11] <Jonii> what are color codes for ls -la? why does a random downloaded file have a x(executable) permission for every user of this computer? :|
[17:11] <ai9371> anyone have rvm on ubuntu 11
[17:12] <JoeSatrian> Hello, Would anyone know any emulator for 8086
[17:13] <JoeSatrian> Would anyone know any emulator for 8086?
[17:13] <JoeSatrian> anyone know any emulator for 8086?
[17:13] <e75> and viola!!
[17:13] <e75> much prettier
[17:13] <e75> :)
[17:14]  * e75 is using kde now :P
[17:14] <brjannc> jsick3: well, the only other alternative i can think of is to use a livecd
[17:16] <Midasx> brjannc: Do you know how to change the keymap ona live cd?
[17:16] <Jonii> Oh, right, they're directories
[17:17] <Jonii> Anyway, what do those color codings of ls command mean?
[17:17] <Jonii> man-page didn't describe them
[17:17] <benoliver999> Hey, how to I get an app to appear in the Unity menu?
[17:18] <jsick3> brjannc: i was thinking that too
[17:18] <wakejagr> JoeSatrian: i don't know of any in ubuntu repos, but i believe pcemu is an 8086 emulator (prolly sourceforge)
[17:18] <brjannc> Midasx: I don't, sorry :(
[17:19] <benoliver999> I don't mean pin it to the side bar.
[17:19] <Midasx> Anyone know if you can set a passwd froma script?
[17:19] <Midasx> like @passwd <passphrase>
[17:19] <Midasx> instead of having to type it twice
[17:25] <pikaciu> ,
[17:27] <bugweed> hi, need some help. how do i change the desktop environment name listed in lightdm. example, Gnome3 shell is listed as GNOME. i want to change it to gnome-shell.thanx in advance
[17:28] <trism> bugweed: edit /usr/share/xsessions/gnome-shell.desktop and change Name=GNOME to Name= whatever you want
[17:30] <grenadecx-Ascend> Anyone have any experience with apache? Well, I have apache installed with userdir module enabled and I'm allowing it to list directories and files if there is no index file. However, I have a case where the directories have the same permissions, but it only list one of them, anyone knows why
[17:32] <Matisse> hi
[17:33] <Shikhin1> Ok - so I'm trying to install 11.10 on a UEFI machine. Now, when I select "Install Ubuntu on Hard Disk", for some time, it displays usual stuff on the screen. Then, suddenly, the screen goes "off", but the CPU fan keeps whirring.
[17:34] <Shikhin1> (which keeps whirring, until I plug it off)
[17:36] <grenadecx-Ascend> nvm, found my problem
[17:36] <fggdfgdfgdf> ciao
[17:36] <fggdfgdfgdf> !list
[17:37] <jasonmchristos> Please help with this similar bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/372014
[17:39] <Shikhin1> Anyone?
[17:40] <g0bl1n> is there any specific channel to talk about nVidia Optimus and IronHide ?
[17:40] <g0bl1n> Installed Ironhide and the google-chrome aquarium page still is on 1fps
[17:40] <g0bl1n> 11.10
[17:40] <g0bl1n> Unity
[17:41] <g0bl1n> can Ironhide be installed with Unity ?
[17:42] <g0bl1n> didn't active the nVidia driver of the Aditional Drivers
[17:42] <almoxarife> ironhide?? what is it?
[17:42] <g0bl1n> https://launchpad.net/~mj-casalogic/+archive/ironhide/
[17:43] <almoxarife> Ironhide is the continuation of bumblebee <-- What I bumblebee?
[17:43] <almoxarife> is
[17:45] <jasonmchristos> someone help me find the afflicting o byte files
[17:46] <g0bl1n> almoxarife, is you don't know them, it's good for you ;)
[17:46] <Matisse> Do I have 2 or only 1 sound card? http://pastebin.com/aVG6527T
[17:47] <treenester> anyone know how to unistall kxstudio
[17:47] <almoxarife> Matisse: I would say , one
[17:49] <dr_willis> !info kxstudio
[17:49] <jasonmchristos> dr_willis: will you help me figure out how to track down 0 byte files afflicting ecyptfs
[17:50] <dr_willis> jasonmchristos:  never used encryptfs
[17:50] <genii-around> treenester: How did it get installed? PPA? Or make, make install, etc?
[17:50] <jasonmchristos> dr_willis: why not?
[17:50] <dr_willis> jasonmchristos:  why should i. :)
[17:50] <jasonmchristos> to keep your code safe from prying eyes
[17:50] <dr_willis> code? :)  the dog may want my perl script!
[17:51] <jasonmchristos> dr_willis: you are connected online arent you
[17:51] <treenester> genii-around: it was from several ppas
[17:51] <dr_willis> last code i did was a 3 line bash script...
[17:51]  * jasonmchristos sight
[17:51]  * jasonmchristos sighs
[17:52] <dr_willis> Now hideing my Naughty Icon collection.....
[17:52] <genii-around> treenester: If it came as a .deb from a ppa then you should be able to remove it with the package manager
[17:52] <treenester> genii-around: it was from several meta-packages
[17:53] <wabash> Hello. I have ubuntu 10.04 and would like it to use newer versions of applications than those that came with it. How do I configure it to use newer apps?
[17:53] <FightOppression> How can I use lsof to find out what process uses the cd drive and kill the process?
[17:53] <bytesaber_work> i need to run an updated version of synergy not available in apt.     The synergy package installs fine from synergy-foss.org.    But when I run it i get   "synergys: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14' not found (required by synergys)"
[17:53] <dr_willis> FightOppression:  perhaps lsof /dev/sr0 or /dev/cdrom
[17:54] <bytesaber_work> I already have libstdc++.so.6 installed.   How do I overcome this?
[17:54] <treenester> genii-around: do i just reverse the install procedure (ex: sudo apt-get remove package_name)?
[17:54] <genii-around> treenester: Maybe with also option of --purge
[17:54] <FightOppression> dr_willis: lsof: status error on or: No such file or directory
[17:55] <almoxarife> dr_willis: an you help me with about a three line script? I need to do a wget followed by a copy to a root folder to replace the content regardless , really where I get lost is where to put it so that runs about every month??
[17:55] <wabash> What are "backports"?
[17:55] <luist_> is there any command line to transform (print) a PNG into a PDF?
[17:55] <dr_willis> almoxarife:  that would be a cron job.
[17:55] <dr_willis> !cron
[17:55] <dr_willis> !backports
[17:56] <wabash> dr_willis: So are backports like app pinning in debian?
[17:56] <FightOppression> Can I use the live the CD and burn CDs at the same time? Live CD is in the CD writer.
[17:56] <dr_willis> wabash:  no.. backports are new unofficial versions...
[17:56] <zykotick9> wabash, debian has backports as well
[17:57] <genii-around> luist_: If you have imagemagick installed just: convert pngfile.png pdffile.pdf
[17:57] <FightOppression> Anybody?
[17:59] <wabash> dr_willis: zykotick9: Does apt use keys to verify packages like synaptic does?
[17:59] <OerHeks> FightOppression, only if you have a 2nd cd-writer, i guess ?
[17:59] <zykotick9> wabash, synaptic is a gui front end for apt
[17:59] <Squarism> What is the recommend ("enterprise way") of installing "sun java" these days?
[18:00] <Squarism> ...and jdk
[18:00] <FightOppression> Nobody has tried this?
[18:00] <Klojum> FightOppression: just trying & find out is one way, but I guess the cd writer packages needs to be started first. After that, the other cd/dvd's can be used.
[18:00] <lcb> , FightOppression: if you are running the OS from RAM yes. If not the OS asks for the application and needs to read it from that CD
[18:01] <OerHeks> FightOppression, or try booting form usb, so you have the cdwriter available
[18:01] <Klojum> Othe than that, why not use a USB bootable version of Ubuntu?
[18:01] <FightOppression> Well the problem is that I can not eject the disk.
[18:01] <gregl_> hey all, trying to get a init script to run an app as a specific user, in my init script (which is starting correctly, but as root) I've got the following start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile $PIDFILE --user $USER
[18:01] <gregl_> anyone any pointers?
[18:01] <FightOppression> My PC does not boot from USB.
[18:02] <lcb> FightOppression: the BIOS doesn't handle it?
[18:02] <Klojum> and installing Ubuntu onto a temporary harddisk is not an option either, i take it?
[18:02] <FightOppression> lcb: no
[18:03] <sandy19> join ##c
[18:03] <wabash> zykotick9: I see. So, does apt use gpg keys for verifying packages?
[18:03] <zykotick9> wabash, yes
[18:03] <ifewalter> yes
[18:03] <wabash> zykotick9: Cool, thank you.
[18:03] <ifewalter> thats why they are required
[18:03] <lcb> FightOppression: try to call the burning software before inserting the blank CD... not sure if works or freezes your system
[18:04] <FightOppression> I have downloaded kubuntu as an iso with the live cd and now i have to burn it to CD but the damn cd writer won't eject the cd. I don't know what damn process uses it. lsof didn't output a  process
[18:04] <sandy19> how to join particluar channel?
[18:04] <lcb> .    /j #particular_channel
[18:05] <zykotick9> FightOppression, i doubt you'll be able to do what you want.  Running from the LiveCD, surprisingly, requires the CD to be in the drive.  If you had two CDROM drives...
[18:05] <FightOppression> zykotick9: why does it require the cd to be in the drive? Doesn't make sense. If I load the program that I need there is no reason at that point I can not eject the CD.
[18:05] <jasonmchristos> ok someone help me remove ecryptfs from my ome directory it is causing problems
[18:06] <jasonmchristos> home
[18:08] <reCAPTCHA> Hey, what's everyone's favorite program for personal finances?
[18:08] <lcb> Anyone know how to set automatic login (to the login manager) from CLI?
[18:10] <lcb> reCAPTCHA: welfare
[18:10] <lcb> reCAPTCHA: j/k :)
[18:10] <zykotick9> !info gnucash | reCAPTCHA
[18:10] <reCAPTCHA> So, you think gnucash is better than, say, homebank?
[18:12] <smw> reCAPTCHA, I like gnucash
[18:12] <smw> lcb, the lottery is much better
[18:13] <lcb> :)
[18:14] <lcb> auto login (for GDM) use to be by  'sudo nano /etc/gdm/custom.conf' . not anymore. anyone know how?
[18:15] <IsraelAlbertoRV> Hola! Alguien habla Español?
[18:15] <IsraelAlbertoRV> Hello! Anyone speak Spanish?
[18:15] <brjannc> !sp | IsraelAlbertoRV
[18:15] <zykotick9> !es | IsraelAlbertoRV
[18:16] <trism> lcb: lightdm has several autologin options /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf, see /usr/share/doc/lightdm/lightdm.conf for an overview (they are in the SeatDefaults section)
[18:16] <IsraelAlbertoRV> !sp | IsraelAlbertoRV
[18:16] <IsraelAlbertoRV> !es | IsraelAlbertoRV
[18:17] <FightOppression> anybody?
[18:18] <lcb> trism, thank you! for some reason LightDM didn't work well on this installation so I decided to go back to GDM
[18:18] <cordobes> ola
[18:19] <e75> clear
[18:19] <e75> crap
[18:20] <geet> hey...i have a problem with ubutnu package..can anybody help me
[18:20] <e75> i always thought kde was supposed to be more resource friendly than gnome/
[18:20] <e75> ?
[18:20] <trism> lcb: seems like it should still work with gdm as well: http://library.gnome.org/admin/gdm/3.2/configuration.html.en but I haven't used gdm recently (perhaps the documentation needs updating)
[18:21] <e75> kde is chewing through my cpu while gnome was pretty decent with my cpu
[18:21] <Klojum> you need to be more specific, geet
[18:22] <geet><EMAIL_ADDRESS>installed some plugin for running media files in ubuntu..and these packages are causing fan problems
[18:22] <maury1982> CIAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[18:22] <maury1982> !list
[18:23] <lcb> trism: i'm digging on it. tks :) on that particular machine is a server with minimal graphics, so i'm running Fluxbox. I don't know why, User Administration option to do that is giving me an error, not accepting changes.
[18:24] <MeQuerSat> How can I mount multiple partitions under one point?
[18:24] <geet> #klojum ??
[18:25] <brjannc> MeQuerSat: unionfs which can do that, but beyond its existence I don't know anything about it
[18:26] <MeQuerSat> brjannc, I used ZFS
[18:26] <MeQuerSat> but if I have to re-install the OS, I lose all my data
[18:26] <MeQuerSat> :(
[18:27] <brjannc> MeQuerSat: unionfs is a meta-filesystem, it wouldn't require reformatting. it just does what you asked, presents multiple filesystems as if they were one
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> howto recover deleted files of a user
[18:27] <MeQuerSat> brjannc, ah, I misunderstood
[18:28] <MeQuerSat> brjannc, so I can have multiple ext4 partitions be seen as one by using unionfs?
[18:28] <genii-around> MeQuerSat: You can also use the bind option of mount
[18:28] <brjannc> MeQuerSat: No problem. LiveCDs use it, for example, to merge the read-only CD filesystem with a ramdisk filesystem, so it looks like you have a full read-write root filesystem
[18:28] <csengg> I need to reinstall the package I installed for media player files in ubuntu,but i dont know their name...can anybody help me out?
[18:29] <Yud_Zroc> Well, I hope i dont seem too dumb, but is it possible to remove ubuntu's legacy software and install the full versions of stuff like java, flash, etc etc
[18:29] <MeQuerSat> lotuspsychje, they aren't in the Trash?
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> MeQuerSat: no deleted user as well
[18:30] <luist_> http://pastie.org/2879185 can anyone help there ? the PDF page is cutting the PNG image so i need to resize the PDF
[18:30] <MeQuerSat> lotuspsychje, have a look at "extundelete"
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> MeQuerSat: tnx
[18:31] <MeQuerSat> brjannc, what about LVM ?
[18:32] <trism> Yud_Zroc: in the case of flash, it is already in the repo, either with flashplugin-installer or adobe-flashplugin if you added the partner repo
[18:32] <brjannc> MeQuerSat: I don't know much about LVM either, but I think you have to set that up prior to formatting your filesystems; I don't think you can wrap it around existing filesystems, but I could be wrong
[18:32] <csengg> can anybody tell me the name of the package for media player files in ubuntu...I need to remove those packages
[18:33] <MeQuerSat> brjannc, it doesn't have to be wrapped
[18:33] <MeQuerSat> csengg, which media player files are you referring to?
[18:33] <brjannc> MeQuerSat: I thought you said you had existing filesystems you wanted to mount on one mountpoint?
[18:33] <MeQuerSat> yeah, but they have no data
[18:33] <MeQuerSat> I can delete them
[18:34] <zykotick9> !undelete | lotuspsychje
[18:34] <brjannc> MeQuerSat: Oh, I see. You might be able to use LVM then, but again I don't have much personal knowledge of it :) I'm useless today apparently
[18:34] <MeQuerSat> haha, no problem :)
[18:34] <Yud_Zroc> trism: is that flash direct from adobe?
[18:34] <trism> Yud_Zroc: yes
[18:35] <MeQuerSat> brjannc, maybe you do know what's the best fs to choose if using disks for huge files
[18:35] <MeQuerSat> ?
[18:35] <brjannc> MeQuerSat: ZFS and XFS are both good choices
[18:35] <Yud_Zroc> trism: and for java, just remove all java from the package manager and install java from java.com? because the java thats installed is horribly outdated
[18:36] <brjannc> MeQuerSat: XFS has been around longer, and is already integrated into the kernel, and has less iffy licensing questions than ZFS does :) But ZFS is obviously a much more advanced fs
[18:36] <ironhalik> How can I run a program in autostart, before gdm loads?
[18:36] <MeQuerSat> I had ZFS running great
[18:37] <MeQuerSat> but if I reinstalled OS, all settings were lost (and also all data)
[18:37] <MeQuerSat> :/
[18:37] <MeQuerSat> Im trying to avoid that now
[18:37] <brjannc> MeQuerSat: understandable
[18:38] <iceroot> !boot | ironhalik
[18:38] <ironhalik> thx iceroot
[18:39] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[18:39] <Explodingpiglets> how do I use deb files?
[18:40] <trism> Yud_Zroc: I would generally not recommend that unless you have a good reason, both openjdk-6 and 7 are in the oneiric repos (but I don't even have java installed at the moment, so not the best person to ask)
[18:40] <brjannc> MeQuerSat: If you do decide to go with XFS, oddly enough the MythTV wiki is a good place to look, as they have guides on what options, etc. to format your XFS partitions with
[18:40] <iceroot> Explodingpiglets: normally you use "sudo apt-get install package" instead of locally deb-files but if you want to install a locally deb-file run "sudo dpkg -i debfile" or double click on it
[18:41] <genii-around> !deb | Explodingpiglets
[18:41] <genii-around> Explodingpiglets: Alternately: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[18:41] <brjannc> MeQuerSat: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/XFS_Filesystem
[18:41] <Explodingpiglets> ok thanks
[18:42] <dr_willis> Explodingpiglets:  my fave.. 'sudo gdebi foo.deb'
[18:42] <dr_willis> :)
[18:44] <Yud_Zroc> trism: i plan on doing java development and app development for android....would that be sufficient enough
[18:44] <xxiao> under ubuntu lucid 64bit, if you have a cpu intensive task, e.g make -j8, while you do 'aptitude install  something', the aptitude will not finish installing, instead it will pause forever
[18:45] <xxiao> it's reproducible for me
[18:45] <noobius> when i update my nvidia driver on ubuntu 11.10 and restart the system it always freezes after about a minute after boot. i can still move the mouse but nothing else. anyone else encounter this?
[18:45] <iceroot> xxiao: how can you say its taking forever? did you test it forever?
[18:45] <SpenserWilde> Hi all.
[18:45] <Explodingpiglets> what is the ubuntu counterpart to an exe file?
[18:46] <genii-around> Explodingpiglets: A file that has an ELF header
[18:46] <iceroot> xxiao: check the nice-status, if there are different its normal
[18:46] <MeQuerSat> brjannc, thanks, Ive read it and ext4 seems to be a better alternative :)
[18:46] <xxiao> iceroot: in computer term a 1 minute job takes 1 hour i will consider it's forever
[18:46] <brjannc> MeQuerSat: sure thing
[18:46] <SpenserWilde> For some reason, my screen stays on when I'm idle. How do I get it to start the screensaver?
[18:46] <Explodingpiglets> I am trying to delete an exe file but it will not let me
[18:46] <iceroot> xxiao: try make on tty1 you will see the power of the cgroups-patch introduced with 2.6.38
[18:47] <Explodingpiglets> it says "permission denied
[18:47] <ironhalik> is systemd worth the try?
[18:47] <iceroot> xxiao: buts its important that is is tty1-6
[18:47] <xxiao> iceroot: you mean i switch to ctrl-f1, then build from tehre?
[18:47] <Klojum> Explodingpiglets: have you tried to CHOWN the file, or try to delete it 'as root'?
[18:47] <xxiao> don't know that tweak,
[18:47] <iceroot> xxiao: yes
[18:47] <genii-around> Explodingpiglets: Is the file in a folder within /home/your-username  or somewhere else?
[18:48] <xxiao> iceroot: so the cgroup-work depends on tty, in that case xwindows is just one of them?
[18:48] <iceroot> xxiao: linus called the cgroups-patch a killer-feature
[18:48] <iceroot> xxiao: yes cgroups is grouped by ttys
[18:48] <xxiao> iceroot: read that, though i did not need switch to tty to do that
[18:48] <Explodingpiglets> I downloaded a linux version of teamviewer, but whenever I type teamviewer in terminal, it opens the windows one and my computer freezes
[18:49] <xxiao> iceroot: it's a pity, that my machine are normally ssh-in,which is ptys
[18:49] <noobius> has anyone successfully updated their NVIDIA driver?
[18:49] <bluebomber_satel> Does anyone know how I can change the default ALT-TAB behavior in 11.10 so it only cycles among applications in the current workspace?
[18:51] <Lantizia> hey what does ^M represent?  a special character?
[18:54] <llutz>  Lantizia DOS linebreaks
[18:54] <noobius> is the nvidia geforce 8800m gts not supported by 11.10
[18:54] <llutz> !info dos2unix      |Lantizia:
[18:58] <csengg> anybody to help me
[18:59] <gwb> Anyone know how to put IPSEC stuff into Network Manager for a VPN?
[18:59] <K1rk>  I have an issue.  I wrote a script that parses the output of "lshw -xml" and obtains serial numbers and hardware information about computers, and report back to a database.  I ran into a problem on a few models of Lenovo laptops, where the RAM doesn't list a serial number.  Does anyone know of another command I might be able to run to obtain RAM serial numbers?
[18:59] <shaxs> hello, I am running Ubuntu 11.10. Im trying to setup Windows file sharing so that I can transfer my media files via the network from windows to Linux. I installed samba and used the directions here: http://kimbriggs.com/computers/computer-notes/linux-notes/samba-setup-guide-ubuntu.file . However, anytime I try to login to my linux box from windows it is asking for a user/pass. Anyone know how to fix this so that it doesnt require a l
[19:01] <AlanBell> gwb: there are some network-manager- packages for different VPN systems like network-manager-pptp or network-manager-vpnc for cisco or network-manager-strongswan
[19:01] <Nichola> I am having an issue with install on a Gateway laptop. Install hangs, as in the computer freezes up, every time. Suddenly, the mouse just won't move and there is no response from the keyboard or anything. It has done this at least five times now...
[19:02] <djzn> is anyone here using gnome-shell in ubuntu latest version, NOTICED a delay on group menu appearing each time a new window is created ?
[19:02] <Nichola> I am installing from a usb drive, but have tried using the mini cd as well. With the cd, it goes so far and freezes up as well
[19:02] <AlanBell> K1rk: best bet is to open it up and look on the ram sticks, if lshw doesn't report it then it probably isn't there to report
[19:03] <K1rk> I don't want to do that, AlanBell.  We have approximately 800 computers to manage.
[19:04] <AlanBell> Nichola: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions might have something to help with the freezes
[19:04] <AlanBell> K1rk: why do you need the serial numbers?
[19:05] <djzn> anyone using gnome shell in ubuntu?
[19:05] <wiggmpk> Running gnome-shell under keyboard shortcuts, specifically "Launch Terminal", it will not allow me to use CTRL+ALT+T (meaning) even though I press those Keys, it sets the shortcut as "ALT+T"... please help..
[19:05] <nmvictor> I just installed Ubuntu but forgot my password, so I cant log in. However, I have chrooted to the Ubuntu partition using a Live Cd, what options do I have to reclaim my accounts control?
[19:05] <gwb> AlanBell: I have network-manager-vpnc installed but I cannot see anywhere to put the ipsec stuff
[19:05] <pierce> so, the brightness adjustments aren't working with 11.10 on the acer s3, is there any way I can debug this?   poking around proc I don't recognize anything anymore, and all the old brightness tools are gone  :-(
[19:06] <AlanBell> gwb: is it a cisco VPN you are connecting to?
[19:06] <K1rk> AlanBell: so we can determine the "life" of our devices... like, if we swap ram between two computers we'd like to know where the stick has been, to track problems.
[19:06] <gwb> AlanBell: yes, I need to specific the "IPSec obfuscated secret" string, which I got from my company
[19:06] <K1rk> AlanBell: This is for a ticketing system, where we are tying problems to hardware by serial number...
[19:06] <gwb> AlanBell: but I cannot see where to put it
[19:07] <nitro282> hi
[19:07] <AlanBell> K1rk: I see. I expect that ram does not have a serial number to report electronically
[19:07] <djzn> anyone using gnome shell in ubuntu?
[19:07] <pierce> djzn: ya, works well
[19:07] <K1rk> AlanBell: It does on the sticker on the memory, I did look.  But I really need something electronically to distinguish the hardware.
[19:07] <erik__un> HELP
[19:07] <djzn> pierce:
[19:07] <nitro282> i have ubuntu 11, and config internet key is ok.. but the comand sudo service udev restart non autostar on start PC
[19:07] <djzn> pierce: i'm getting a delay on menu windows each time i open a window
[19:07] <Nichola> Okay, looked at that but don't have a clue as to where to start...
[19:08] <nitro282> what comand in ubuntu application autostart?
[19:08] <AlanBell> gwb: for a cisco vpn you will need gateway, username user password (might be a prefix and a hardware one time key pad thing) group name and group password
[19:08] <nitro282> i'm italian.. non speak good inglesh
[19:08] <gwb> AlanBell: right. I have those and that's ok.  It's the last bit I can't put in to NM
[19:08] <gwb> AlanBell: fwiw I can connect with the vpnc cli command no prob.
[19:08] <nmvictor> I just installed Ubuntu but forgot my password, so I cant log in. However, I have chrooted to the Ubuntu partition using a Live Cd, what options do I have to reclaim my accounts control?
[19:09] <pierce> nmvictor:  you can just type "passwd <yourusername>" and change the password of that user
[19:10] <nmvictor> pierce: Thanks, but Wont i be prompted for the initial password?
[19:10] <nmvictor> pierce: which is what I forgot
[19:10] <pierce> nmvictor: not if you are root :-)
[19:10] <daisy> hi - im trying to work out how to run a custom script on tty1 instead of login. Ive changed /etc/init/tty1.conf's exec line to exec /usr/bin/myscript, but its just a blank screen with the cursor flashing ( the script works, is in the right place and is executable ) - any ideas?
[19:10] <nmvictor> pierce: thanksalot
[19:10] <AlanBell> gwb: sorry, I am not sure where that goes, I just have those fields I mentioned and a thingie on my keyring that I press a button on and it gives me a number to type in
[19:10] <nmvictor> pierce: how about a command to change the username?
[19:11] <user00> Question - I'm trying to edit the source of a theme for gtk3. I have one last hurdle to cross. I'm editing the Zukitwo theme. In Nautilus when I highlight things on the left pane, I want the background to highlight a certain color. Does anybody know how I can do this or what coding I need to change?
[19:11] <gwb> AlanBell: guess I'm sol then
[19:11] <pierce> nmvictor: bad idea :-)  just add a new user and remove the old
[19:11] <nmvictor> pierce: thanks again
[19:11] <nmvictor> I love Ubuntu
[19:12] <noobius> i would love ubuntu if my graphics card was supported
[19:12] <pierce> djzn: what do you mean by menu windows?
[19:12] <djzn> pierce: file, edit, etc
[19:12] <user00> noobius: that's not an Ubuntu problem. It's a manufacturer problem.
[19:12] <noobius> yeah i've noticed
[19:12] <Yud_Zroc> noobius: what gfx card
[19:12] <noobius> 8800m gts
[19:12] <user00> should be fine...........
[19:13] <Nichola> okay, this time it froze up right when it got to the purple desktop
[19:13] <noobius> Nvidia geforce 8800m gts 512m
[19:13] <nmvictor> pierce: sorry, but if i removed the user and added a new one, I bet I'll need a sudoers entry for the new user, which is what sounds complicated
[19:13] <Yud_Zroc> thats an nvidia card....they develop drivers for linux
[19:13] <Nichola> no mouse movement...
[19:13] <AlanBell> gwb: dunno if the strongswan plugin does it, that one is a bit more ipsec
[19:14] <pierce> djzn: super odd, like more than a one second delay?  might be a video card thing
[19:15] <anonissimus> I am having a hard time connecting to a cisco vpn concentrator
[19:15] <erik__un> Has anybody else here had a slight problem with Japanese fonts in Ubuntu (11.10)?
[19:15] <Yud_Zroc> are you using ubuntus retricted drivers?
[19:15] <anonissimus> the vpn client itself doesn't get past the install and vpnc borks everytime
[19:15] <user00> Question - I'm trying to edit the source of a theme for gtk3. I have one last hurdle to cross. I'm editing the Zukitwo theme. In Nautilus when I highlight things on the left pane, I want the background to highlight a certain color. Does anybody know how I can do this or what coding I need to change?
[19:15] <noobius> although i had no problem updating and using the driver for my 8800m gts on 10.04
[19:15] <anonissimus> Yud_Zroc: if that is to me, I installed the vpn extension for cisco
[19:16] <XThief> for a server, i should install ubuntu 10.04 better? should be more stable and with more documentation online than the new one?
[19:17] <erik__un> XThief: I'd go with the last long-term support version, the new versions seems to have quite a lot of bugs. Haven't tried the server versions though.
[19:18] <XThief> erik__un: thank you for the information, i will follow your recommendation
[19:18] <erik__un> At least 11.10 is probably not yet stable enough
[19:18] <pikaciu> XThief: you can use sshd
[19:18] <nitro282> sera a tutti
[19:19] <XThief> pikaciu, what do you mean?
[19:19] <nitro282> posso chiedere?
[19:19] <Myrtti> !it
[19:19] <pikaciu> sorry... i meant you can use the ver you like and then buil the server services
[19:19] <pikaciu> XThief: sorry... i meant you can use the ver you like and then build the server services
[19:20] <XThief> pikaciu: oh, ok thx
[19:21] <pikaciu> XThief: for ftp you can use putty
[19:21] <shaxs> I created a VPN connection for giganews following their directions here, http://www.giganews.com/vyprvpn/setup/linux/pptp.html. Anytime I try to connect all it says is "VPN Connection Failed" with no further info. Is there a log I can grep in real time to see any more info on why this failed?
[19:21] <pierce> so, brightness is broken  anyone have tips for troubleshooting?
[19:21] <pikaciu> XThief: for coping files scp
[19:21] <pikaciu> XThief: for email postfix
[19:22] <XThief> pikaciu: maybe you are answering another persons question, doesnt make sense for what i asked
[19:22] <gandalfcome> When I view my ubuntu 11.10 remote desktop from my 10.7 lion macosx it is all scrambled. I tried different clients on the mac and they all show me a scrambled picture. Any ideas?
[19:22] <pikaciu> XThief:  ops
[19:22] <KHendrik> Hey folks
[19:22] <Ghost1227> anyone here have experience with .desktop files, particularly in regards to setting up unity quicklists? I've got one that's not behaving as expected
[19:22] <user00> Question - I'm trying to edit the source of a theme for gtk3. I have one last hurdle to cross. I'm editing the Zukitwo theme. In Nautilus when I highlight things on the left pane, I want the background to highlight a certain color. Does anybody know how I can do this or what coding I need to change?
[19:23] <pikaciu> XThief:  what did you ask ?
[19:23] <KHendrik> today something funny happened ubuntu booted up and now unity 3d is gone and I#m in gnome shell
[19:24] <KHendrik> how do i get unity 3d back i only have unity 2d as a choice ... nvidia drivers are working just fine
[19:24] <shaxs> Can anyone help me with my vpn question above?
[19:24] <KHendrik> shaxs what was the question just joined
[19:24] <user00> KHendrik: Unity 3D is "Ubuntu". Dont you have Ubuntu @ login screen?
[19:24] <KHendrik> nope just ubuntu 2d
[19:24] <shaxs> KHendrik http://www.giganews.com/vyprvpn/setup/linux/pptp.html
[19:24] <shaxs> oops
[19:24] <shaxs> KHendrik I created a VPN connection for giganews following their directions here, http://www.giganews.com/vyprvpn/setup/linux/pptp.html. Anytime I try to connect all it says is "VPN Connection Failed" with no further info. Is there a log I can grep in real time to see any more info on why this failed?
[19:24] <FloodBot1> shaxs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:25] <spacebug-> shaxs: look in /var/log/syslog for errors
[19:25] <xxiao> it happens again, while i'm 'make -j8', aptitude 'pause' at install, now 'make -j8' is done, aptitude is not moving
[19:25] <xxiao> this is a bug i believe on lucid/64bit
[19:25] <spacebug-> shaxs: look in /var/log/syslog for errors
[19:25] <xxiao> aptitude just can'r run in parallal with 'make -jN'
[19:25] <xxiao> how should i fix this?
[19:26] <KHendrik> Check the Use Point-to-Point encryption (MPPE) box. ( try unchecking it)
[19:26] <Kaigeos> I'm hoping someone can help. it's like I have two themes running together. I have compiz with unity running, but it's like metacity is running on top of it, with two taskbars overlapping at the top. and one at the bottom, I just want the one bar you get by default with unity. I'm using Ubuntu Oneric
[19:27] <Scunizi> I've just installed Kubuntu so I can switch from Ubuntu to Kubuntu when I want from the login screen.. on install it asks which display manager I want as default, kdm or lightdm.  Does it matter which I choose? Will Ubuntu default to lightdm when loaded and vice verse?
[19:28] <shaxs> Lets see,,,
[19:28] <shaxs> Okay umuted now. Hah
[19:29] <shaxs> spacebug sorry closed window to relog and get unmuted. what was that directory again?
[19:30] <shaxs> Khendrik nope, unchecking that did not work
[19:31] <nitro282>  dovrei dare all'avvio sudo service udev restart ma non so quale sia il comando da dare ad "applicazioni d'avvio" in ubuntu
[19:32] <KHendrik> nitro282, no clue what you just wrote english looks different
[19:32] <pikaciu> nitro82:ubuntu.it
[19:32] <nitro282> in ubuntu-it not rispond
[19:33] <ninucs> hrhr
[19:33] <nitro282> pikaciu non rispondono
[19:33] <pikaciu> nitro82: what's the problem (quale è il problema) ?
[19:33] <carl_> lu
[19:33] <KHendrik> pikachu like the pokemon?
[19:33] <pikaciu> yepù
[19:34] <Ghost1227> well in case someone has a moment and/or idea... i've got a .desktop file that isn't behaving as expected, but a different one i wrote in the same format works fine. the file in question is here -> http://pastebin.com/Mr4b4ifS
[19:34] <dolly> hello
[19:34] <KHendrik> ahh didn#t realize it was a nick name
[19:34] <nitro282> devo dare all'avvio del sistema in automatico il comando sudo service udev restart
[19:34] <nitro282> come faccio?
[19:34] <dolly> hi all
[19:34] <user00> Question - I'm trying to edit the source of a theme for gtk3. I have one last hurdle to cross. I'm editing the Zukitwo theme. In Nautilus when I highlight things on the left pane, I want the background to highlight a certain color. Does anybody know how I can do this or what coding I need to change?
[19:34] <pikaciu> nitro82: what's the problem (quale è il problema) ?
[19:34] <b0ot> Is there anything like tftp32 for ubuntu?
[19:35] <nitro282> pikaciu: devo dare all'avvio del sistema in automatico il comando sudo service udev restart
[19:35] <genii-around> !it
[19:35] <dolly> weeee
[19:35] <nitro282> ubottu: non rispondo li
[19:35] <spacebug-> shaxs:  /var/log/syslog
[19:36] <pikaciu> nitro82: come in pvt (viene i privato)
[19:37] <KHendrik> b0ot if openssh is installed sftp should work fine to (as a server) for client try filezilla or gftp
[19:37] <shaxs> spacebug thanks yep found some errors in there
[19:38] <b0ot> KHendrik, I need tftp not ftp
[19:38] <bioterror> !tftp
[19:38] <bioterror> :(
[19:38] <kubanc> when i run ubuntu from startup disk. I have menu options (try ubuntu without installing, install ububntu, etc...) can i get to console anyhow from here?
[19:38] <KHendrik> b0ot, server or client
[19:38] <llutz> b0ot: what makes tftp32 so unique? tried tftpd or tftpd-hpa?
[19:39] <nitro282> pikaciu: ho scritto in privato
[19:39] <KHendrik> b0ot, http://www.davidsudjiman.info/2006/03/27/installing-and-setting-tftpd-in-ubuntu/
[19:40] <Myrtti> b0ot: perhaps you could try atftp as well?
[19:41] <KHendrik> kubanc, Hit "Escape" twice on the menu that allows you to "Try Ubuntu" or "Install Ubuntu". It should prompt you that you are leaving the graphical environment.
[19:43] <user00> Question - I'm trying to edit the source of a theme for gtk3. I have one last hurdle to cross. I'm editing the Zukitwo theme. In Nautilus when I highlight things on the left pane, I want the background to highlight a certain color. Does anybody know how I can do this or what coding I need to change?
[19:44] <Luis_> alguien esta ai manga de putos
[19:44] <KHendrik> anyone any idea how i can get unity 3d back? ubuntu is not listed in the options only ubuntu 2d but nvidia drivers are installed
[19:45] <Luis_> david_ sos puto?
[19:45] <saymoo> !spain
[19:45] <david_> Luis : ?
[19:45] <reachingperfecti> can someone tell me how to set up a multi seat
[19:45] <KHendrik> reachingperfecti, a what?
[19:45] <user00> reachingperfecti: a multiseat???
[19:46] <Nostoc> I am fresh installing a new ubuntu/windows dual boot.  What order should I install them in?  Windows first?  Also, I am planning to have a paging file partition, an ext3 (ubuntu) partition, an NTFS partition (XP), and a storage partition.  Should I use gparted, fdisk, or windows set up disk to partition these?  Just looking for recommendations, thanks.
[19:46] <Luis_> responda alguien la reconcha d la madreeeeeeeeee
[19:46] <reachingperfecti> multi seat means individual keyboard ,mouse display but a single cpu to power this
[19:46] <saymoo> !spain |luis
[19:46] <alsuna> Nostoc:  install windows first, and then set up the partitions you want during the install of ubuntu
[19:46] <user00> reachingperfecti: like.... thin clients?
[19:46] <Luis_> david_ sos un putasoooooooo
[19:46] <ninucs> Nostoc: windows first, because the windows installer will overwrite your MR boottloader and you will have to rework it to boot linux
[19:46] <BluesKaj> Nostoc, gparted live cd
[19:47] <Guest26405> hellop
[19:47] <Guest26405> hello
[19:47] <ninucs> s/MR/MBR
[19:47] <christoffer> Nostoc: Windows first as small as you need the OS partition then install ubuntu and setup all partitions
[19:47] <Luis_> alsuna dejat de alsarte
[19:47] <Nostoc> alsuna: ninucs: so gparted for partitioning on livedisk first, then windows install, then ubuntu install
 can i give u a wiki link to what i aim for
[19:47] <KHendrik> Nostoc, install windows first create that partition with the windows cd do the rest during the ubuntu installation windows will be recognized and added to the boot menu
[19:47] <user00> reachingperfecti: sure
[19:48] <Luis_> hello Guest26405
[19:48] <BluesKaj> Nostoc, install windows first then ubuntu, pagefiles in linux are called swap files
[19:48] <Nostoc> ok, it seems the order isn't too important, I'll just use the windows disk first and its partitioning
[19:48] <ninucs> Nostoc: would be an option. on the other hand, you can just leave up the disk space for formatting it with the installer later
[19:48] <Nostoc> ninucs: i'll do that, thanks for the info
[19:48] <manu37> ciao
[19:48] <ninucs> :)
[19:48] <Nostoc> also, if I make my storage partition in ext3, can I access the files from windows?
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX
[19:48] <manu37> ciao
[19:48] <Nostoc> noob question I know
[19:48] <KHendrik> reachingperfecti, do you mean on a single pc or with clients connected to a main server?
[19:48] <manu37> hello
[19:49] <manu37> list!
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX
[19:49] <Luis_> me voy a la yet o llet loco cualde todos es mas putooooooo portugueses e ingleses traga echeeee
[19:49] <manu37> list!
[19:49] <BluesKaj> Nostoc, use gparted to set up all your partitions first , it makes for a faster cleaner install all around
[19:49] <user00> reachingperfecti: that's different than thin clients. my apologies. I set up thin clients where each user had a specific processing unit, but the server does all of the work. Its similar, but multiseat is a bit different it seems.
[19:49] <KHendrik> Nostoc you can but you shouldn#t write to an ext3 from windows you could potentially damage it
 please check my link , it describes what i aim for but i am on 11.10.
[19:50] <KHendrik> reachingperfecti, sorry never heard of it before
[19:50] <Nostoc> KHendrik: mostly I will be using linux to download torrents etc, and a shared entertainment center computer to play them on a TV
[19:51] <Nostoc> Khendrik: so is it fine to just read/copy files from an ext3 to a NTFS
[19:51] <ninucs> nostoc, theres an ext2-driver for windows, it is able to access ext3 or ext4 filesystems, but without  the journaling
[19:51] <KHendrik> why do you want to use ext3 anyway?
 i cannot find my xorg.conf file in ubuntu 11.10 ,then how do i modify this . do u have an  idea of how to go about it
[19:51] <K1rk> I have an issue.  I wrote a script that parses the output of "lshw -xml" and obtains serial numbers and hardware information about computers, and report back to a database.  I ran into a problem on a few models of Lenovo laptops, where the RAM doesn't list a serial number.  Does anyone know of another command I might be able to run to obtain RAM serial numbers?
[19:51] <reachingperfecti> ><user00> i cannot find my xorg.conf file in ubuntu 11.10 ,then how do i modify this . do u have an  idea of how to go about it
[19:51] <ninucs> so be careful when mounting ext3 with ext2-options
[19:51] <KHendrik> reachingperfecti, by default there is no xorg.conf anymore
[19:51] <Nostoc> ninucs: there is no way to access the journaling in windows?
[19:52] <user00> K1rk: wow, down to the RAM serial numbers? That's an intense database!
[19:52] <KHendrik> reachingperfecti, you need to create it first but i#m not sure how
[19:52] <Nostoc> ninucs: my last ubuntu failed because I used ext2
[19:52] <K1rk> user00: Yes, we are hoping to track hardware as it moves through our network.  For example when a technician swaps out bad memory, etc, we want to log and be able to run reports on those changes.
 me badly stuck in that  case , will xorg.conf exist in fedora ?
[19:53] <ninucs> nostoc, it cannot fail just because you used ext2, ext2 is just more fragile than ext3 if it isn't used and maintainedcarefully
[19:53] <KHendrik> Nostoc, I would go with ext4 and use a ntsf partition for sharing don#t access linux from windows thats always dangerous
[19:53] <ninucs> journaling makes reconstruction easier if you kill a system while disks are mounted, e.g.
[19:53] <KHendrik> reachingperfecti, give me a second
[19:54] <geolr> Hi all, is there a special chatroom for ubuntu server?
[19:54] <ninucs> geolr, is your question server-specific?
[19:54] <basilic> Hello room, what software can I use to msn with webcam?
[19:54] <geoffmcc> geolr: #ubuntu-server
[19:55] <user00> Question - I'm trying to edit the source of a theme for gtk3. I have one last hurdle to cross. I'm editing the Zukitwo theme. In Nautilus when I highlight things on the left pane, I want the background to highlight a certain color. Does anybody know how I can do this or what coding I need to change?
[19:55] <Nostoc> ninucs: khendrik: ok, thanks for all the help
[19:55] <KHendrik> reachingperfecti, http://askubuntu.com/questions/4662/where-is-the-x-org-config-file-how-do-i-configure-x-there
[19:55] <geolr> geoffmcc: thanks :-) Intending to ask something about a non-volatile usb mount. Heading over there.
[19:55] <ninucs> nostoc, i would suggest you to use an exchange drive formatted in either ntfs or fat
[19:56] <ninucs> makes things easier
[19:56] <geoffmcc> geolr: i use server edtion too, but unfortunatly wont be able to help with that
[19:56] <KHendrik> Nostoc, np
[19:56] <Nostoc> ninucs: does it need to be an entire drive or is just a partition fine?
[19:56] <asdf-> can anyone else anyone else access http://pyyaml.org/ ?
 no it is not anywhere in the folder  etc \x11
[19:57] <asdf-> or just me?
[19:57] <KHendrik> reachingperfecti, please read the 2nd answer ...
[19:57] <Nostoc> ninucs: also which is better FAT or NTFS if I am moving files back and forth between linux/windows XP (NTFS)?
[19:57] <ninucs> nostoc, with drive i meant any media you would like, a hd partition or usb stick or whatever :D
[19:57] <geoffmcc> asdf: downforeveryoneorjustme.com
[19:58] <geoffmcc> asdf: its just you
[19:58] <ninucs> the ntfs support is fine in ubuntu atm
[19:58] <Nostoc> ninucs: oh lol.... I never know, my friend who showed me the ropes has external hard drives everywhere, I'm just broke
[19:58] <asdf-> geoffmcc, thank you
[19:58] <KHendrik> reachingperfecti, sorry i meant the first answer with the green checkmark
[19:58] <Nostoc> ninucs: alright, ntfs it is
[19:59] <ninucs> fat32 has some limitations that obstruct it's use in recent systems, mainly it's limit for 4GB files
 thanks man
[19:59] <KHendrik> Nostoc, you can access ntfs without a problem that used to be risky like 3-4 years ago but now its flawless
[20:00] <KHendrik> reachingperfecti, you#re welcome
 will try , i was just putting feodra on download,u saved my say
[20:00] <Ghost1227> still no one?
[20:00] <jwmto> hi, i'm having upgrade problems to 11.10.  All sorts of "failed to fetch" messages make the installer crap out.  Any help?
[20:01] <riotingpacifist_> Hi my resolv.conf isnt working i have an entry nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> and if i dig google.com @<IP_ADDRESS> it works but nslookup google.com does not.
[20:03] <KHendrik> Ghost1227, are you sure you can start mine craft with the comand "minecraft" not something like "java -jar /your/path/here/minecraft.jar"
[20:03] <geoffmcc> jwmto: have you done multiple times? Is today first day you tried or has it been like that for a while
[20:03] <jwmto> for a while
[20:04] <Ghost1227> KHendrik: the problem is that the quicklist doesn't show up at all... but the rest of the .desktop works. i know i can start it that way cause i wrote the launcher i'm using :P
[20:04] <geoffmcc> jwmto: ok if its been for a while i doubt its on server end
[20:04] <geoffmcc> jwmto: wireless or wired?
[20:04] <jwmto> so do i have a bad list of sources?
[20:04] <jwmto> wired
[20:05] <user00> Question - I'm trying to edit the source of a theme for gtk3. I have one last hurdle to cross. I'm editing the Zukitwo theme. In Nautilus when I highlight things on the left pane, I want the background to highlight a certain color. Does anybody know how I can do this or what coding I need to change?
[20:05] <geoffmcc> jwmto: and there are no updates to be installed before running sudo do-release-upgrade
[20:06] <jwmto> correct
[20:06] <KHendrik> Ghost1227, im not sure about the format never wrote one before but i think in line 11 at the end there#s a ; missing
[20:06] <Seventoes> Do apt-get or aptitude have a way to see what the md5 hash of a package's binaries should be?
[20:06] <jwmto> i ran all updates
[20:06] <Ghost1227> KHendrik: tried it with and without the ;
[20:06] <geoffmcc> jwmto: what version is it now
[20:06] <KHendrik> can you also post your minecraft start script? then i will try it on my pc
[20:07] <jwmto> 11.04
[20:07] <Ghost1227> sure
[20:08] <pikaciu> bye everyone
[20:08] <geoffmcc> jwmto: please post /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin and post
[20:09] <jwmto> where is the pastebin?
[20:09] <Seventoes> Do apt-get or aptitude have a way to see what the md5 hash of an installed package's binaries should be?
[20:09] <jwmto> ok pastebin.com
[20:09] <geoffmcc> jwmto: ubuntu.pastebin.com
[20:09] <geoffmcc> or any pastebin really
[20:10] <cloudy_nz> hi, can anyone tell me how to get a bash package for "trap" ?
[20:10] <kirua> do you know where i can find the specifications for old versions of ubuntu ?
[20:10] <cloudy_nz> I think there's meant to be a file called trap.h in /usr/include
[20:11] <Sporkster> Does anyone know if 11.04 is based on Etch or Squeeze
[20:14] <jwmto> http://pastebin.com/xZ2qgihA
[20:14] <jwmto> there
[20:14] <jwmto> sorry for the delay
[20:15] <cloudy_nz> I guess the Americans are all at work or college at the moment, lol
[20:15] <trism> Seventoes: cat $(dpkg-query --control-path package_name md5sums); should get you what you want, or just look in /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[20:16]  * cloudy_nz hunts for the mysterious missing trap package
[20:16] <geoffmcc> jwmto: no prob. make sure to refrence me in post so i dont miss message
[20:16] <jwmto> thanks geoff
[20:16] <geoffmcc> jwmto: anyways, i might comment out the ubuntu tweak and pidgin sources and try again
[20:17] <geoffmcc> jwmto: oh wait, ubuntu tweak is already
[20:17] <jwmto> geoffmcc: take a look at what failed: http://pastebin.com/CPe1gVZK
[20:18] <geoffmcc> jwmto: will look but i think i see it too
[20:18] <geoffmcc> jwmto: you have one instance of jaunty in there
[20:18] <geoffmcc> jwmto: under backports
[20:19] <geoffmcc> jwmto: yup, that was it... just comment out that line
[20:19] <frost_> Hi all
[20:20] <geoffmcc> jwmto: line 38 on your pastebin
[20:20] <Matisse> When my system is booting it doesnt react on typing -> I can't enter the boot menu. What might be the problem?
[20:20] <nimbiotics> I made an update  yesterday and now, after restarting, my display is not showing the right resolution; actually, I'm only geting 2 resolutiolns and none of them is the right one. What can I do?
[20:20] <jwmto> geoffmcc: OK I'll try again
[20:20] <geoffmcc> jwmto: should do it for ya
[20:21] <shaxs> So I have samba installed and my windows pc can see my linux box, but anytime I try to access it, it is asking for a user and pass. I cant figure out what combo to use to get access. Anyone know which I need?
[20:21]  * cloudy_nz is still searching futilely for trap
[20:21] <jwmto> geoffmcc: doing it from terminal
[20:21] <jcpham> create a windows user that matches your linux box
[20:21] <jcpham> or control panel and save your windows username and pass
[20:21] <nimbiotics> .maps
[20:21] <jwmto> geoffmcc: seems to be going.  Thanks very much for your help
[20:21] <jwmto> bye now
[20:21] <geoffmcc> jwmto: lemme know how turns out, but i would put $ on that you wont have problems
[20:21] <shaxs> jcpham I did
[20:22] <geoffmcc> jwmto: anytime
[20:22] <Matisse> nimbiotics, do you have a crt or flat screen?
[20:23] <shaxs> jcpham so if my linux full name is "John Doe" and my user is "john", then on windows I need a "john" user?
[20:23] <molgrew> the internal hdd of another pc I have just died, while a new one is on the way, I thought about using an external usb hdd, is that viable?
[20:24] <nimbiotics> Matisse: flat
[20:24] <inashdeen> hi guys, i always see on a cli the give command like ./start or ../home. what does the dots means?
[20:24] <LjL> inashdeen: . is the current directory, .. is its parent
[20:24] <Matisse> nimbiotics, gnome or kde?
[20:26] <nimbiotics> Matisse: gnome
[20:26] <inashdeen> Ljl: thanx
[20:26] <molgrew> "using an external" = install ubuntu on it
[20:27] <geoffmcc> molgrew: i have not done it, but i know people do
[20:27] <fhtagn> since when does, in gedit, ctrl+f -> enter not show me the several results of search?
[20:28] <fhtagn> the search box disappears after the first resul
[20:28] <fhtagn> t
[20:28]  * fhtagn /facepalm
[20:28] <molgrew> ok, tha is reassuring. I think I will attempt it
[20:28] <usuario> hellow
[20:28] <usuario> how are you??
[20:28] <geoffmcc> molgrew: i could be wrong, but it seems to me it would be laggy, but people do it so it must not be that bad
[20:29] <usuario> what mada facker
[20:29] <Scunizi> Guake preferences are not changing the look of Guake on the fly.. do I have to make adjustments blind with quake unloaded?
[20:29] <usuario> what´s up
[20:30] <usuario> :p
[20:31] <Scunizi> !ask | usuario
[20:31] <usuario> you what
[20:31] <usuario> I Mexico
[20:31] <usuario> no eNGLISH
[20:32] <Scunizi> !es | usuario
[20:32] <usuario> OK
[20:35] <cloudy_nz> Hi, sorry to be a pain and I asked this half an hour ago
[20:35] <cloudy_nz> but does anyone know how to enable the trap command for bash?
[20:41] <ssta> how do I get the openjdk-7-jdk package to show in the software centre?  I know I can apt it trivially, but I'm trying to write destructions for users who faint at the thought of a terminal.  I can't seem to get anything except the jre to show up in the software centre...
[20:41] <Snicksie|> hm, did you try the technical items, ssta ?
[20:41] <geoffmcc> cloudy_nz: what you mean enable
[20:42] <ethras> I accidentally removed my only sudoer from admin group, without being able to log in as root or use sudo, How can I add this user to the admin group again? (you would think I would not be so n00bish)
[20:42] <taoli> any body have experience with xubuntu as virtualbox guest? can i use the ubuntu guest addtion on xubuntu? if not any recommendation for a lightweight distro to be use in vbox? i tried puppy, its kinda of bugg in vbox
[20:42] <ssta> surely if I type the package name in the search box, it should be there?
[20:42] <bunamuna> Ok so m sisters netbook has a broken HDD...
[20:43] <soltani> hello,I want to transfer a file from http server to my ftp server,how can I do it directly ,i mean without download it then upload it...
[20:43] <christoffer> ethras: been there done that =) ...restart and launch ubuntu in safe-mode
[20:43] <christoffer> that will give you root access
[20:43] <bunamuna> but I marked the dead sectors as unusable...
[20:43] <bunamuna> But...
[20:43] <bunamuna> everytime I upgrade Ubuntu.
[20:43] <bunamuna> it corrupts.
[20:43] <bunamuna> Pls can ou help me fix the package system?
[20:43] <ethras> christoffer: ok! thanks!
[20:43] <christoffer> ethras: Can't remember which key command you need to use to launch boot menu but I believe it's shift
[20:44] <christoffer> maybe ESC after 10.10
[20:44] <ninucs> dats life. i always do clean installs and it always works and even cleans up my home directory from old config file trash bunamuna
[20:45] <ethras> christoffer:  futher complicated because this is a virtualized 10.04 server sitting on ESXi..... but there is always a way!
[20:45] <bunamuna> ninucs: What's that got to do with anytthing?
[20:45] <bunamuna> I want to upgrade.
[20:46] <bunamuna> not reinstall.
[20:46] <christoffer> ethras: I had virtual machines aswell
[20:46] <christoffer> and set grub boot loading to 3 sec ...was to short so I need some copy-paste action and type my password twise within thoose 3 seconds
[20:46] <christoffer> it was a challenge
[20:46] <christoffer> but I eventually succeeded
[20:46] <christoffer> :D
[20:46] <christoffer> will never do that mistake again...
[20:47] <christoffer> grub wait 'at least 5 seconds now
[20:47] <ninucs> bunamuna IMHO the upgrade process is not really safe, so i suggested a fresh install. works always
[20:47] <christoffer> you never restart servers that often anyway
[20:47] <ninucs> that's what it has to do with 'anything'
[20:47] <inashdeen> cananyone suggest an alternative menu for unity/gnome3 besides cardapio and classic menu?
[20:47] <bunamuna> ninucs: NO
[20:47] <soltani> hello,I want to transfer a file from http server to my ftp server,how can I do it directly ,i mean without download it then upload it...
[20:48] <ethras> christoffer: Do you know what groups the initial user created is added to? would I need to add my user to more than just admin?
[20:48] <ninucs> aw fuck
[20:48] <bunamuna> I've already upgraded.
[20:48] <Tm_T> ninucs: language, please
[20:48] <inashdeen> hi guys, anyone here using AWN? just wanna ask did anyone experience the inablity to right click on notification applet and did anyone found a work around?
[20:48] <ninucs> your REAL problem vanished in my chat buffer :D
[20:48] <geoffmcc> !language | ninucs
[20:48] <inashdeen> anyone here can share how to change ubuntu 11.10 sound theme?
[20:48] <bunamuna> Just tell me how to fix the package system pls.
[20:49] <dreamon> its second time, my printer hp m1005 prints wrong letters. Im typing a letter with libre office and printing it. chars like "i,t,e" are printed as ". So I made a PDF and printed this one with okular. same wrong letters was printed again. It doesnt seems to be problem with libreoffice. Last time I removed all printers an configured from scratch. buts its a hard work.
[20:49] <ssta> that is very weird...why would the jre package be listed, but not the jdk?  Makes no sense at all...
[20:49] <funkyHat> ssta: why are you trying to install the jdk directly? If you're writing instructions for installing a java ide it should be pulling in its dependencies anyway (i.e. eclipse recommends default-jdk | sun-java6-jdk
[20:49] <funkyHat> *e.g.
[20:49] <christoffer> ethras: "adm" "admin"
[20:50] <veni__> how to fix jockey problem and install ati drivers on ubuntu 11.10 :(
[20:50] <bunamuna> I've already upgraded.
[20:50] <bunamuna> Just tell me how to fix the package system pls.
[20:50] <ninucs> names
[20:50] <ssta> funkyHat: not the point...I want a specific jdk.  Why on earth would the jdk not show as available?
[20:50] <user00> Question - I'm trying to edit a theme. It's the Zukitwo theme from Gnome-Look.org. I have a small hurdle I'm trying to cross. If you look in the screenshot, you can see the orange which is what is currently selected. But if I hover over other items, I get this gray color. I'm not sure where in the world the entry for the gray color is. Where can I change it? Screenshot - http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9215/screenshotat20111117084
[20:50] <milanoa> hi
[20:51] <bunamuna> ninucs: Pls?
[20:51] <ethras> christoffer: thanks!
[20:51] <inashdeen> i can't add keyboard shortcuts using the system>settings>keyboard>shortcuts option. anyone knows a work around?
[20:51] <bunamuna> My sister asked me to install VLC for her.
[20:51] <ninucs> bunamuna i'm thinking :P
[20:51] <soltani> hello,I want to transfer a file from http server to my ftp server,how can I do it directly ,i mean without download it then upload it...
[20:51] <christoffer> ethras: You're welcome
[20:51] <bunamuna> ninucs: k
[20:51] <veni__> how to fix jockey problem and install ati drivers on ubuntu 11.10 :(
[20:52] <ninucs> bunamuna, your package tree is in a sane state atm?
[20:52] <geoffmcc> soltani: should just be able to use terminal and copy it from one directory to another (or move it)
[20:52] <funkyHat> ssta: good question. I don't know
[20:53] <bunamuna> ninucs: What do you mean?
[20:53] <soltani> geoffmcc, Can you expain more?
[20:53] <ethras> christoffer: all fixed! Thanks agian
[20:54] <geoffmcc> soltani: well first, i made an assumption that they both were on the same machine, is that correct
[20:54] <ssta> hmm, awesome.  gcc isn't listed either...is there a setting somewhere to say "please don't dumb this thing down!"
[20:54] <shagoyjo> I have a script/cron/mystery magic smoke question for anybody interested.
[20:54] <geoffmcc> !ask | shagoyjo
[20:55] <onicrom> anyone having difficulty setting ulimits for users even though /etc/security/limits.conf is configured correctly?
[20:55] <shagoyjo> ubottu: Thanks, first time on the channel
[20:56] <Auriga> Anyone using Audacious 2.5.3?
[20:56] <soltani> geoffmcc, suppose my file is in http ://something.com/abx.rar
[20:56] <shagoyjo> !ask
[20:56] <veni__> how to fix jockey problem and install ati drivers on ubuntu 11.10 :(
[20:56] <soltani> geoffmcc, then i want to transfer it to ftp://ee.sss.com
[20:57] <geoffmcc> soltani: lets move this to PM
[20:57] <Obscene_CNN> someone suggested I used this shellscript to test my memory management but I can't figure out how I tell if it works?         :(){ :|:& };:
[20:57] <shagoyjo> whoops. Anyways, I have a subsection of a bash script that isn't going off when the script is run by cron.
[20:59] <ssta> shagoyjo: pastebin the script?
[21:01] <shagoyjo> one sec ssta
[21:02] <shagoyjo> ssta: one sec
[21:02] <soltani> ,I want to transfer a file from http server to my ftp server,how can I do it directly ,i mean without download it then upload it...
[21:02] <shagoyjo> ssta: boss is ringing off my ear
[21:03] <user00> Question - I'm trying to edit a theme. It's the Zukitwo theme from Gnome-Look.org. I have a small hurdle I'm trying to cross. If you look in the screenshot, you can see the orange which is what is currently selected. But if I hover over other items, I get this gray color. I'm not sure where in the world the entry for the gray color is. Where can I change it? Screenshot - http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9215/screenshotat20111117084
[21:03] <veni__> how to fix jockey problem and install ati drivers on ubuntu 11.10 :(
[21:05] <Obscene_CNN> can abody tell me if this bash command works? :(){ :|:& };:
[21:06] <Jonii> Hey, does anyone know how come a file I downloaded with KTorrent happens to have x-permission for every user of this computer?
[21:06] <amiranda> If I run vncserver on a machine with ubuntu & unity, and then I connect and login, I don't seem to be able to do anything.  It seems like there is a file manager, but nothing else.  Any ideas how to fix that?
[21:06] <shido> I have dell vostro 3500 that comes with 2 video cards, the integrated intel, and also a NVIDIA Geforce 310M ... but ubuntu wont take the NVIDIA card, even though i have the official nvidia drivers installed,... i have researched online but nobody has been able to solve it. any ideas? someone knows?
[21:07] <shagoyjo> ssta: http://pastebin.com/NF91WUHk
[21:07] <ssta> Obscene_CNN: that's really not funny...please don't do that
[21:07] <qbert_> I need to run a command on another machine, I have ssh with a keyfile setup, how can I do this ?  This for amazon's cloud servers
[21:07] <ssta> shagoyjo: what part isn't being executed?
[21:08] <shagoyjo> The for loop with the java call
[21:08] <orst62> ciao
[21:08] <shagoyjo> ssta: the for loop with the java call
[21:09] <ssta> shagoyjo: all I can suggest is surrounding the variables with {}.  Otherwise it looks like it should work
[21:09] <ssta> if there are spaces then quote them too I guess.  Like "${xmllang}"
[21:10] <gebbione> hi, i have a few audio input devices in my machine but skype does not see them all, so i cannot select my webcam microphone as a result... any suggestion to fix this?
[21:12] <shagoyjo> ssta: it's so weird, because every other part of the script goes off without a hitch
[21:12] <shagoyjo> ssta: it's a root cron job
[21:12] <Auriga> Trying to make a usb bootable from cli, without unetbootin, there is a windows, command with an -ma switch or something, anyone know what it would be in Linux?
[21:13] <shagoyjo> ssta: and it was working up until recently
[21:13] <ssta> shagoyjo: does the for loop work if you run the script without cron?
[21:13] <shagoyjo> ssta: yes
[21:13] <ssta> shagoyjo: are there any files with spaces in the filenames?
[21:15] <shagoyjo> ssta: not that I've ever seen
[21:16] <ssta> shagoyjo: sorry.  I don't know what to suggest except protecting/quoting the variables.  Is there no error given?
[21:17] <ssta> and presumably $ROOTDIR/content is not empty and has foles with "xml" in the filename?
[21:17] <gebbione> hi, i have a few audio input devices in my machine but skype does not see them all, so i cannot select my webcam microphone as a result... any suggestion to fix this?
[21:17] <cloudy_nz> Hi geoffmcc , sorry I meant I'm in 11.10 and trap is meant to be a bash builtin
[21:17] <b0ot> I just installed xinetd tftpd and tftp... and I followed this http://www.funwithip.com/?p=77 tutorial to setup up a tftp server but I can't seem to connect to it
[21:17] <cloudy_nz> however, I can't find trap with "which trap" and it doesn't appear to be installed
[21:17] <shagoyjo> ssta: nope, the entire thing goes off, the jar just doesn't run.   It's the Zukitwo theme from Gnome-Look.org. I have a small hurdle I'm trying to cross. If you look in the screenshot, you can see the orange which is what is currently selected. But if I hover over other items, I get this gray color. I'm not sure where in the world the entry for the gray color is. Where can I change it? Screenshot - http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9215/screenshotat20111117084
[21:18] <ssta> shagoyjo: cronjobs generally send emails with the output.  Nothing at all in the output that suggests the problem?
[21:18] <guntbert> cloudy_nz: builtin = no extra binary -> which gives no result
[21:18] <cloudy_nz> ssta, thank you!
[21:18] <xruud> Unity issues, anybody happen to know how to restore unity in 11.10 when I already tried removing and reinstalling?
[21:20] <shagoyjo> ssta: nono, I get output that the cron job has run, and as you can see the cron job outputs to a log file, which I can read. All of the other functions run too. The ftp, the tar and the rm sections go off without a hitch.  Just the for loop I get no output for.
[21:20]  * cloudy_nz goes to battle the evil bash, fabric and rsync monsters
[21:21] <ssta> shagoyjo: hmm.  Perhaps try wrapping the for with a "pushd $ROOTDIR"/"popd" pair, and tweak the cp and jar stuff?
[21:22] <ssta> shagoyjo: sounds to me like (for some unknown reason) the $(ls ... ) stuff is returning an empty list
[21:22] <ssta> testable by echoing the list before you loop over it maybe?
[21:23] <ssta> something like LIST=$(ls $ROOTDIR/content|grep xml); echo ${LIST}
[21:23] <SilverFox> wow... just installed 11.10, a few things different.  'lightdm' for starters.  hmm... ok.  So on this Toshiba laptop, I hear the ubuntu startup sound, and the wallpaper, but thats all that ever loads.  On the live CD, if I press F6 during grub and tick all the options (noacpi etc) it doesn't do that.
[21:23] <SilverFox> I'm not sure how to figure out which kernel option I need to use to fix this issue.
[21:24] <coffeetime> encrypt [< on|
[21:24] <shagoyjo> ssta: thanks. I'll give that a try. I've never used pushd/popd before
[21:24] <orst62> ciao
[21:25] <ssta> shagoyjo: they're really useful in scripts that are called by other scripts.  Lets you leave the calling script in a known state afterwards
[21:25] <xruud> My laptop will not shutdown when I press shutdown. Instead I'm logged out. Would that be a rights issue?
[21:26] <guntbert> SilverFox: with the live CD select another option on every boot and notice what helps...
[21:26] <xruud> the only way I've found that will shutdown the pc besides from the power button 4sec is: sudo shutdown -h now
[21:28] <SilverFox> guntbert: k, once I isolate, can I just press 'e' in grub and add that option on a new line at the end?
[21:28] <joansirley> hey
[21:28] <joansirley> all of you
[21:28] <antnash> Alright guys. I'm trying to get vnc4server set up properly but all I get is a black/yellow screen and an X as a cursor.
[21:29] <guntbert> SilverFox: yes, you see they are appended to the command line on the live CD too ( iirc )
[21:29] <joansirley> you must not agree with my opinion but I hate Unity
[21:29] <joansirley> so
[21:29] <joansirley> my question is
[21:30] <joansirley> how to uninstall unity in ubuntu 11.10
[21:30] <guntbert> !enter | joansirley
[21:30] <Aaronneyer> Can anyone help me with deleting linux swap partitions?  I've done a lot of installs/reinstalls and currently have 3 extra swaps and am not sure which one is the one in use
[21:30] <guntbert> !notunity | joansirley
[21:30] <SilfenX> hello - I m curious why I cant write access an ext4 partitioned drive on the ubuntu machie from my windows 7 machine. No problems accessing it s contents but nothing else works like making folders, deleting, creating files, copy to etc. It is set as writeable and users with write access are asigned to the share too
[21:31] <xruud> Aaronneyer: Just geussing here, but can you noit tell from file access dates?
[21:31] <Auriga> Aaronneyer, Maybe open up the Disk Utility, check in there if you haven't looked already...
[21:31] <joansirley> ok ubottu you are a clever bot...
[21:31] <ssta> Aaronneyer: /etc/fstab probably lists the one in use
[21:32] <Aaronneyer> Im looking in disk utility right now.  Would the one in use be the highest or the lowest swap by sda#?
[21:32] <orst62> list
[21:32] <guntbert> !list > orst62
[21:32] <ssta> Aaronneyer: "swapon -s" gives a summary of the swap in use
[21:33] <Aaronneyer> Ok thank you
[21:33] <Aaronneyer> So I can freely delete all of the other swap partitions?
[21:33] <ssta> probably
[21:33] <Jonii> Hey, how do I find out what are these files? [manual]
[21:33] <Jonii> lat=55.0
[21:33] <Jonii> lon=12.0
[21:33] <Jonii> vvv
[21:33] <Jonii> ...
[21:33] <FloodBot1> Jonii: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:33] <Jonii> libxcb1-dev, libxcb-randr0-dev, libx11-dev
[21:34] <Aaronneyer> Ok, because on my netbook, I had three different distros installed and when I tried to delete two swap partitions I think it deleted my grub
[21:34] <Jonii> I meant this, had wrong stuff on clipboard
[21:34] <Aaronneyer> Because I got a grub rescue prompt on bootup and had to install a new distro to fix it
[21:35] <ssta> hmm...possible that deleting the partitions renumbered them.  It ought not to, but I guess it might
[21:35] <Jonii> Like, what are those files?
[21:35] <Aaronneyer> Mmk well thanks, I'll try that now
[21:36] <Jonii> Or, are they files to begin with?
[21:36] <xruud> Noone who knows what my shutdown problem could be? google is not helping me very well today
[21:38] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[21:40] <SilverFox> ok... acpi=off seems to be the one I need.  However... when I press 'e' in the boot menu and add it to the kernel line, no change.  I can press ctrl-alt F1, I get a vty, so I have access, just gui isn't working right.
[21:40] <SilfenX> hello - I m curious why I cant write access an ext4 partitioned drive on the ubuntu machie from my windows 7 machine. No problems accessing it s contents but nothing else works like making folders, deleting, creating files, copy to etc. It is set as writeable and users with write access are asigned to the share too
[21:40] <Aaronneyer> Mmk, was unsuccessful.  I deleted all the swaps except the one it said was active, but when I booted up I got a grub rescue prompt and it said it could not find the partition
[21:40] <Jonii> okay, the next question: How do I know which such things I already have installed?
[21:40] <Aaronneyer> Is there a way to fix this without installing a whole new ubuntu?
[21:41] <Aaronneyer> Like a quick way to fix the grub.  I'm currently booting into a live CD of ubuntu
[21:41] <Jonii> Likes of these: libxcb1-dev
[21:41] <Laurenceb_> hi, /tmp/TSwR1IuE.zip.part could not be saved, because the source file could not be read.
[21:41] <Laurenceb_> Try again later, or contact the server administrator.
[21:42] <SilverFox> is there a log file I should be inspecting?
[21:42] <Laurenceb_> ^ why do i get that from firefox?
[21:42] <SilverFox> Laurenceb_: sounds like the download failed.
[21:42] <Laurenceb_> but it fails with everything
[21:42] <Laurenceb_> is my tmp file space full or something?
[21:43] <Erik____> question?
[21:43] <ipv6jesus> Hello. I have Ubuntu & Windows on dualboot (not wubi). I'm trying to install the drivers for a mouse I've just bought, however the installer crashes due to a "cannot open bootloader device". Would this be because of the fact that I have a GRUB boot loader?
[21:43] <Erik____> Wubi install of 11.10 doesn't work on my new laptop
[21:44] <enikm4> how can you delete a directory with stuff in it?
[21:44] <Aaronneyer> Can anyone tell me how to fix my grub.  I deleted extra swap partitions and my linux partition and my swap partition went from sda10/11 to sda5/6 and now I get a grub rescue prompt on bootup
[21:44] <SilverFox> enikm4: rm -rf
[21:44] <enikm4> SilverFox, ty
[21:44] <pist0l-fish> scenario: i have a partition with my OS (windows) and i want to resize it and put ubuntu on a new partition. i have a bunch of mirrored disks being managed by windows software raid. my solution is to unplug the mirrored disks when i install ubuntu, and then make sure the fstab doesn't have references to the mirrored disks and then plugging them back in and rebooting
[21:44] <SilverFox> enikm4: be careful with that thing.  Its loaded.
[21:44] <pist0l-fish> will this prevent ubuntu from ever mounting my mirrored disks?
[21:44] <Neldogz> Hi all, i have been troubleshooting the replication of contacts from thunderbird to ubuntu one using the thunderbird-couchdb package. Via process of elimination I appear to have found why the contacts are not syncing. Only when the migration process noted within desktop-couch-migration.log cycles does ubuntu one sync the data
[21:45] <enikm4> SilverFox, haha okay thanks
[21:45] <pist0l-fish> essentially question is: when you reboot ubuntu, does it check for new /dev/sd* devices and add them to the fstab
[21:45] <Neldogz> so i have 2 questions. Does anyone know  how often does this process occurs? and secondly is there a way to force it?
[21:46] <Dexo> Hey everyone, i have a question. Is there a way to make it so sound is played through both my headset (or external speakers) and my internal laptop speakers? I'm running Ubuntu 10.04.
[21:46] <Laurenceb_> wget works - clearly an firefox issue
[21:47] <amiranda> pist0l-fish: No, it  won't automatically add them when they appear.  However, why do you want to unplug the drives?  I think you should be able to tell ubuntu to ignore the disks during the install...
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> Dexo: you may be able to unmute the interface in sound options
[21:51] <Dexo> ActionParsnip: Under the Output tab of Sound Preferences?
[21:52] <xrdodrx> !info firefox
[21:52] <xrdodrx> still 7.0.1 in ubuntu? :<
[21:53] <wh1p> hey peps
[21:53] <wh1p> any1 on here ever setup openvpn?
[21:54] <b0ot> Anyone know how to change the configuration for tftpd?
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> Dexo: wherever, have a sniff around that kind of thing
[21:55] <wh1p> b0ot what are you using tftpd for?
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> b0ot: is it not /etc/tftpd.conf
[21:55] <Dexo> ActionParsnip: I've tryed all the different outputs and hardwares, nothing seems to work
[21:56] <dbjohn1> hello, I'm using ubuntu 11.10 and my hard drive makes some noises
[21:56] <b0ot> wh1p, uploading configs to ip phones
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> b0ot: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-setup-advanced-tftp-server-in-ubuntu.html
[21:56] <wh1p> i cant help you with that soz
[21:56] <b0ot> ActionParsnip, not there
[21:56] <b0ot> ActionParsnip, I have it setup and I can see in syslog my phone trying to get a file that isn't there
[21:57] <b0ot> but I want it to skip requests that it can't get and move on
[21:57] <b0ot> It works fine with tftpd32 for windows...
[21:57] <wh1p> are you sure that the phone is the requesting the right file from the correct location?
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> dbjohn1: does it sound like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8S5F2Bd7uA
[21:57] <wh1p-spammer> wh1p joined our IRC and spammed us!
[21:58] <dbjohn1> ActionParsnip: yes but not that often
[21:58] <wh1p> how do i spam?
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> dbjohn1: sounds like its dying.  There's a solution in the youtube thread.
[21:59] <dbjohn1> I only have the problem since I installed 11.10
[22:00] <wh1p> anyway i joined to ask if anyone can push me in the right direction for settings up openvpn?
[22:00] <dbjohn1> ActionParsnip: I only have the problem since I installed 11.10
[22:00] <wh1p-spammer> wh1p I'll push you in the right direction
[22:00] <wh1p-spammer> off a cliff
[22:00] <SiCC> trolololl
[22:01] <wh1p> @wh1p-spammer thanks :) did u join just to troll?
[22:02] <xruud> Can someone help me with my laptop that wont shutdown when I click shutdown?
[22:02] <Dexo> I vote for /kick wh1p-spammer
[22:02] <SiCC> xruud, tried the power button?
[22:02] <SilfenX> why cant I write access an ext4 partitioned drive on the ubuntu machie from my windows 7 machine. Can access it s contents but notmodify.  Instead it logs me out
[22:04] <wh1p> amazing i go on a couple of irc channel to get some help and guess wht some guy chooses to troll on them
[22:04] <wh1p> :)
[22:06] <SilverFox> when did grub get so friggin complicated?
[22:06] <willfjp> oi algum brasileiro?
[22:07] <wh1p> !Quit
[22:07] <wh1p> how do i leave?
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> xruud: just checking, its good to test
[22:07] <xrdodrx> wh1p, /quit
[22:07] <cgtdk> wh1p: /quit
[22:07] <xruud> ActionParsnip: I think it is a rights issue
[22:07] <Scunizi> Dragging windows around is a bit laggy and slow even with the Nvidia Current Recommended driver loaded.  Is there a setting in CCSM that might fix this?  It wasn't this way on the previous release.
[22:07] <xrdodrx> SilverFox, it's always been that way ;)
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> SilverFox: its pretty simple once you get to grips with it and manages a lot of the short comings of grub1
[22:08] <Dexo> does anyone in here ever us JACK?
[22:08] <willfjp> hi
[22:08] <xruud> ActionParsnip: but even when logged out, the menu there will not shutdown the machine either
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> xruud: try: gksudo gedit /etc/init.d/halt   and add: rmmod snd-hda-intel
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> xruud: add it below the line: ### END INIT INFO
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> xruud: source: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1306789&page=3
[22:10] <SilverFox> ActionParsnip: do I edit /etc/default/grub, /boot/grub/grub.cfg, or /etc/grub.d/foo ?
[22:10] <Scunizi> test
[22:11] <SilverFox> Scunizi: #test
[22:11] <Jonii> hey, i have a program that totally took over the terminal
[22:11] <bekks> ,grub2 | SilverFox
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> SilverFox: depends what you are wanting to do. You never edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:11] <SilverFox> grub2 | silverraindog
[22:11] <Scunizi> SilverFox: wierdness on my tty .. sorry.. do you know how to restart unity?  it just crashed
[22:11] <SilverFox> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to add kernel options to one of my menu entries.
[22:11] <bekks> ,grub2? SilverFox
[22:12] <bekks> hmm :(
[22:12] <bjrohan> Anyone have suggestions as to why my wireless connection starts out strong, then the speed diminishes over about an hour or so?
[22:12] <bjrohan> Wired connection stays at 7MB over the course of a day, wireless not so much
[22:13] <Jonii> ctrl-c, ctrl-z nor ctrl-d doesnt work against it
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> SilverFox: then you edit /etc/default/grub   and add the options in the quotes with:  quiet splash     then run:  sudo update-grub
[22:14] <Jonii> wait, wait!!
[22:14] <SilverFox> ActionParsnip: thanks.
[22:14] <SilverFox> grub2 | SilverFox
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> SilverFox: its not hard, just different
[22:15] <SilverFox> Fair enough.  Just doesn't appear very 'KISS' on the surface.
[22:15] <xruud> ActionParsnip: This did not work. It also seemes to have reset unity or something as my bar on the left is now back to default
[22:15] <xruud> ActionParsnip: I'm having multiple issues anyway; I also have to fill in my password everywhere I need to twice, always. The first time is ignored even if I use a wrong pwd
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> xruud: editing that file will not change unity in any way
[22:16] <Shogoot> hi. im on a window machine and i got 1 chrome tab open, but i get 12 processess in my taskmanager. is this normal?
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> Shogoot: windows isn't supported here, try ##windows
[22:17] <inashdeen> anyone here using AWN on ubuntu 11.10? anyone resolved the bugs in it?
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> inashdeen: which bug? there are a few
[22:17] <xruud> ActionParsnip: I did not expect it to, perhaps it was me shutting down the laptop with the pwr button. In any case, it did not solde the problem
[22:17] <xruud> Shogoot: yes, normal
[22:17] <nightwalkerkg> Hi,how do i create a new folder and a document inside etc/X11 ?
[22:18] <inashdeen> ActionParsnip:  mine was with the indicator applet. i cant right click to set the preferences
[22:18] <strix_> hello
[22:18] <strix_> what would be the easiest way to get svn 1.7.1 for ubuntu 64 bit?
[22:18] <Jonii> For some reason, my keyboard shortcuts like ctrl-c use qwerty, when im using dvorak
[22:18] <Jonii> whys that?
[22:18] <inashdeen> ActionParsnip: what other bugs present? i Am building this for a custom distro, so may you share the bugs with me??
[22:19] <strix_> im trying to access my university svn, authentication works for windows but not for ubuntu
[22:19] <xruud> I'm going to sleep. These Ubuntu problems will have to wait. When will there be a bugfix expected? The 11.10 seems very buggy to me
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> inashdeen: launchpad has all the reported bugs
[22:21] <Enissay> Hi guys, what are the best options for fstab to mount an ntfs data HDD ?
[22:21] <ironhalik> wow, my ubuntu got back to those quick starts it advertised ;>
[22:21] <Azrael> hey folks, quick question.  i've got ubuntu 11.10 installed and i'm using unity.  sometimes an orange translucent box appears and covers the entire left half of my screen.  seems to be correlated with a mouse gesture i haven't yet figured out.  anyways, what is this box about and how can i get it to go away?
[22:21] <xruud> ironhalik: how fast?
[22:22] <xruud> ironhalik: I was amazed at my 25 sec cold boot
[22:22] <ironhalik> xruud: about 10 seconds from post to desktop, would need to time it
[22:22] <inashdeen> ActionParsnip: what is indicator-sound-gtk2
[22:22] <Senix> snuxoll: how are you?
[22:22] <ironhalik> xruud: but the funny part is, the splash got broken
[22:22] <xruud> ironhalik: (25 sec on an old laptop)
[22:23] <ironhalik> xruud: mine is quite old too, but I just installed ghetto ssd on it :>
[22:23] <JernejL> where do i obtain libstdc++.so.6 32 bit for 64 bit ubuntu?
[22:23] <ironhalik> 32gb 400x compact flash card
[22:23] <xruud> ironhalik: my trick exactly!
[22:23] <JernejL> or compile something without libstdc++.so.6?
[22:23] <inashdeen> ActionParsnip : basically, my problem is not on the list
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> !info indicator-sound-gtk2
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> inashdeen: then you can report a new bug you have identified
[22:24] <ironhalik> xruud: what kind of speeds are you getting? hdparm shows me about 70 megs read, and dd shows 40 megs write, but compared to original 1.8 drive with 15 megs tops it just got lightning fast
[22:24] <glebihan> strix_, you can either use a ppa (such as https://launchpad.net/~dominik-stadler/+archive/subversion-1.7/), but that's at your own risks (meaning that you have to trust the maintainer of the ppa before installing it. Otherwise, you can install from source
[22:25] <xruud> Well in any case, ActionParsnip, thanks for your time. I think I'm much faster re-installing ubuntu altogether. I only had apache2, mysql and some progs installed...
[22:25] <JernejL> i need a GLIBCXX_3.4.15
[22:25] <JernejL> how do i get that
[22:26] <xruud> ironhalik: I have no clue. First thing I did when I got it was lending the laptop to a friend in need. So no initial speeds, and I haven't gotten around since
[22:26] <ironhalik> btw anyone using ibam (the battery time estimator) and tried to integrate it into unity?
[22:26] <xruud> ironhalik: Mine is some newer intel model
[22:27] <zacktu> in a windows 7/ubuntu dual boot configuration i wanted to expand all partitions into unused space -- i deleted the ubuntu partitions and want to let windows manage its expansion before recreating ubuntu partitions -- anyway, i have a grub error message --- can i fix grub or must i install the windows boot manager?  (i did something like this before by using the windows install disk, but that...
[22:27] <zacktu> ...was for XP)
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> zacktu: by deleting the ubuntu partitions you removed the grub config
[22:29] <SuprEngr> why have I gone anti 11.10? 'coz it will *not* allow use of my Three Mobile dongle no matter what I try!
[22:30] <SuprEngr> [all other distros fine]
[22:30] <conntrack> Does ubuntu support load balancing?
[22:30] <zacktu> actionparship: so how do i get the windows boot manager so I can resize the windows partition before recreating the ubuntu partitions?
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> zacktu: use your windows 7 CD and you can reinstate the boot loader
[22:33] <zacktu> actionparship: i don't recall -- do i select something like "repair my windows?"
[22:33] <bytesaber_work> http://ocrmirror.iiens.net/files/music/remixes/Punchout_Dream_Fighter_OC_ReMix.mp3
[22:33] <bytesaber_work> ooops
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> zacktu: you can use recovery console and run a couple of commands, the guys in ##windows will be able to advise
[22:33] <lifestream> Hello, is there a tool that will defragment a FILE, in Linux? I need to defrag a 4GB file I copied over from Windows.
[22:33] <zacktu> actionparsnip: thanks
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> lifestream: if you copied it to ext4, it will be defragged
[22:34] <deej1976>  !defrag | lifestream
[22:34] <lifestream> ActionParsnip, oh, is that so? That's a great feature! I have ext3, though.
[22:35] <lifestream> deej1976, I know, but I MUST defrag this file. It's a game data file, and it causes textures to look funny (and yes, I know it's the file, not the graphics)
[22:36] <deej1976> lifestream: by copying the file you've altered the possible fragmentionn of it
[22:36] <matyy> olaa
[22:37] <lifestream> Even in ext3?
[22:37] <spinx60> hello
[22:37] <matyy> AlLA PrOSImA BeLLi... [ÎñF£®ñø]™ [§¢®íÞ†]
[22:38] <deej1976> lifestream: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3#Defragmentation
[22:38] <spinx60> does anyone here know if i can get 2 monitors running with SLI enabled?
[22:38] <scottj> spinx60: you should be able to get 4 monitors working
[22:39] <spinx60> i only have 2.. if 4 monitors is possible then 2 monitors schould be possible aswell
[22:39] <spinx60> im tried everything..
[22:39] <scottj> spinx60: do both monitors show up in nvidia-settings?
[22:40] <spinx60> yes
[22:40] <m477> when i kill compiz i lose windows' frames and i dont have prompt, what to do?
[22:40] <spinx60> but if i activate the 2nd screen it still wont fire up if i restart X
[22:40] <spinx60> 1 will start however
[22:40] <scottj> spinx60: perhaps you need to run nvidia-settings as root so you can save the xconfig
[22:40] <Raydiation> !wiki grub2
[22:40] <lifestream> I know ext filesystem does not get fragmented. So even though I copied the file from windows, it automatically allocates to continuous space. Hmm.. alright
[22:41] <spinx60> i have done that too
[22:41] <lifestream> thanks, I'll download the file over-night and see if it fixes the problem
[22:41] <Raydiation> !give Raydiation grub
[22:41] <spinx60> but i dont seem to be able to activate both monitors when i run my 2 graphic cards in SLI mode
[22:41] <Raydiation> !grub
[22:41] <scottj> spinx60: oh but both monitors work fine w/o sli?
[22:41] <deej1976> lifestream: make sure you've defragged windows before copying
[22:42] <lifestream> deej1976, it's not my windows, i highly doubt he defrags, ever :P
[22:42] <spinx60> yes
[22:42] <spinx60> im running both now whitout SLI Enabled
[22:42] <deej1976> lifestream: ok, good luck
[22:42] <spinx60> but i want it enabled so that i get the extra power but i dont want too loose 1 screen
[22:43] <lifestream> deej1976,  so you are saying if his windows is fragmented, then I SHOULD defragment it on linux? (confused)
[22:43] <kirbygibner> can anyone tell me if they have any suggestions for cell phone rentals for international travel
[22:44] <spinx60> brb need to restart x.
[22:44] <deej1976> lifestream: Get windows owner to defrag their Windows drive before copying the file back.
[22:45] <spinx> back
[22:45] <scottj> spinx: well I guess I'm not 100% sli works with multiple monitors, maybe you should confirm that
[22:47] <spinx60> some say it doesnt work at all.. some say it does but i havent found any guides pointing towards a working solution.. some say newer nvidia drivers  support it
[22:47] <spinx60> thats why i came here thinking mabee someone else had the same problem and mabee they got it fixed
[22:48] <scottj> idk, I actually have two ndivia cards but I haven't bought the $6 cable to sli them
[22:48] <spinx60> hehe i have a spare one you can have it.. whats your adress :P
[22:49] <scottj> virginia :)
[22:49] <spinx60> ouch
[22:49] <scottj> I actually have one but it's in storage in the west
[22:49] <Jonii> Hey, where does launcher keep it's data?
[22:49] <spinx60> sweden here :P you pay the shipping cost.. with probably is alot more than bying a new cable
[22:49] <scottj> yeah
[22:49] <eeeuser> Hello -- does anyone know of a good UI for OCR?
[22:49] <Jonii> I mean, where is the data about those icons you see in launcher, say, by default libre office programs, firefox etc
[22:50] <scottj> Jonii: /usr/share/icons or ~/.icons maybe
[22:50] <spinx60> need to reboot it seems something is wrong with my sound server keeps crashing
[22:51] <eeeuser> Jonii, the launcher commands are held in .desktop files, which are stored in /usr/share/applications
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> eeeuser: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OCR
[22:51] <Jonii> eeeuser: isn't that system-wide?
[22:52] <eeeuser> that is, yes, the selections are elsewhere
[22:52] <Jonii> Like, if I edit those for one user, they all change?
[22:52] <eeeuser> ActionParsnip, that OCR stuff is all command line
[22:52] <eeeuser> ?
[22:53] <ionstorm66> anyone know how to do "fbcon=rotate:3" in grub2?
[22:53] <ionstorm66> i have my monitor in portrait
[22:53] <_spt_> eeeuser : see VueScan
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> eeeuser: "OCRFeeder suite provides handy GUI"
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> eeeuser: http://live.gnome.org/OCRFeeder
[22:54] <eeeuser> ok
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> eeeuser: try reading ALL the text, helps
[22:54] <garden92> did Chromium come before google chrome?
[22:54] <eeeuser> I saw ocrfeeder-cli
[22:55] <spinx60> hey again
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> garden92: chome is a snapshot of chromium with some added stuffs
[22:55] <spinx60> now my sound is working
[22:55] <Jonii> eeeuser: So, where do I get to change what are launcher items for this user?
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> garden92: the daily chromium ppa has nice beta features
[22:55] <garden92> think i'll check it out
[22:56] <deej1976> !info dconf-tools | Jonii
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> !info ocrfeeder
[22:56] <ionstorm66> ~_~
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> eeeuser: its in the universe repo too, so be sure you have that enabled
[22:57] <eeeuser> cheers.
[22:57] <ionstorm66> why would it be so hard to rotate in grub2
[22:57] <SilverFox> ok, when pressing 'e' in grub, I see a line that looks like....  "linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-12-generic root=UUID=... ro quiet splash acpi=off vt.handoff=7", but adding the acpi=off seems to cause no boot (black screen)
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> SilverFox: which GPU do you use?
[22:58] <Somelauw> How do fonts work in ubuntu. In my terminal I don't see the terminus font.
[22:58] <SilverFox> ActionParsnip: I'll have to do a recovery boot to check.  I think its a Radeon.
[22:59] <Somelauw> And I do have terminus-console installed.
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> SilverFox: try adding:  nomodeset     too
[23:00] <SilverFox> ActionParsnip: my syntax looks ok/good for that edit though?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> SilverFox: sure
[23:01] <Jonii> So it's not advisable to try and edit launcher items by hand?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> Jonii: you can if you want
[23:02] <SilverFox> ActionParsnip: ATI Radeon Xpress 200M
[23:02] <Jonii> so where are the data
[23:03] <deej1976> Jonii: Are you trying to remove items or add items?
[23:04] <FatSteve> Hello.
[23:04] <sir_tyrion> How can I setup my ubuntu box to be a vpn server so my windows box can connect to it through vpn?
[23:04] <sir_tyrion> with a username and password
[23:04] <blackshirt> hello
[23:05] <Jonii> deej1976: what I have in mind is kinda "tweak, in whatever ways I find possible"
[23:05] <SilverFox> ActionParsnip: same thing with nomodeset.  black screen.
[23:05] <Jonii> I don't know yet what are the ways that are possible. I'm just curious to see how does that aspect of ubuntu work, reall
[23:05] <haploid> What on earth would cause *constant* disk thrashing under ubuntu 11.10, when iotop is claiming 0 iops?  is iotop lying, or is my disk becoming self-aware and trying to launch skynet?
[23:06] <SilverFox> ActionParsnip: when I press e during boot, I see a lot of other lines in there besides the 'linux' line.  recordfail, set gfxpayload, insmods, etc.
[23:06] <deej1976> Jonii: Can you define "tweak" a little more. The default icons can really only be removed/added to. Can you define "tweak" a little more.
[23:07] <deej1976> !repeat | deej1976 :D
[23:08] <r_finnegan> n
[23:09] <haploid> the disk churns constantly, and iotop claims zero activity.  incredible.
[23:11] <codazoda> In Ubuntu 11.10 w/ nVidia drivers my system seems to change the xorg.conf settings on each boot.  That means changes that I make to the xorg.conf file don't seem to stick (it's got some automatic magic going on).  Can I easily disable the automatic magic?
[23:11] <nac-godfather> Anyone know the name of the terminal program that speaks for you (whatever you type)?
[23:12] <zykotick9> !info festival | nac-godfather
[23:12] <Jonii> deej1976: I understood you could also add some options, like, for chromium "open a new tab | open a new incognito tab"
[23:13] <deej1976> Jonii: Ah ha! now I know what your looking for
[23:13] <nac-godfather> No, there was another one zykotick9
[23:13] <codazoda> It changes if I plug or unplug a monitor.  But, it's not smart enough to detect the LCDs and projectors in conference rooms at work.
[23:13] <Jonii> But I take it that there's no sensible way to access launcher data from command line
[23:14] <FatSteve> Hello. I want to install Ubuntu (11.04) on partition C: of my HDD. At the moment, I do have Windows 7 installed on it. So, my question is, can I boot Ubuntu from my CD , format partition C, and install linux on it, without risking the valuable data I have on partition D? My "D:" has 500 GB of data so I cannot move the data. Thank you.
[23:14] <Multbrelch> codazoda, does it change only if you  plug or unplug a monitor?
[23:14] <deej1976> Jonii: Have you found information for adding extra options?
[23:14] <MeQuerSat> FatSteve, yes, you can
[23:14] <SilverFox> OK, got it to work with the combination of acpi=oldboot and nomodeset.  Now...  what, if any, functionality or features am I losing by passing these options?
[23:14] <Jonii> deej1976: nope
[23:15] <MeQuerSat> SilverFox, fast tty switches and some power-saving options
[23:15] <MeQuerSat> SilverFox, nothing really interesting :)
[23:15] <Jonii> I'm mostly just curious to know where's the data. The rest I thought I could figure out myself or something, though a guide or something would help
[23:16] <codazoda> Multbrelch: Yes.  Only if I change the monitor and restart X.
[23:17] <Multbrelch> codazoda, is the monitor plugged in when u restart?
[23:17] <Ek123> Hi, I'm on the Firefox beta channel. If I want to switch back to the stable channel do I just have to remove the 'firefox-next' repo from my software sources? Or is there anything else I have to do after?
[23:18] <deej1976> jonii: http://maketecheasier.com/8-really-useful-ubuntu-unity-quicklists/2011/05/07
[23:19] <codazoda> Multbrelch: Sometimes.  If I connect it to no monitor and restart, it works.  If I connect it to my secondary monitor (DVI) and restart, it works.  If I connect it to a 1080p TV or projector in a conference room (VGA through who knows what wires and switches) it doesn't work.
[23:19] <deej1976> jonii: Google "
[23:19] <deej1976> jonii: Google "unity launcher quicklist"
[23:19] <codazoda> Multbrelch: Other Mac OS X and Windows users seem to detect it fine, so I don't know if it's the switches and cables or not.  Ubuntu see's it as 800x600.
[23:20] <Multbrelch> codazoda, I see. In my case all is perfect. I have also a nvidea card. Small advice ...
[23:20] <Netalarm> hi, does 11.10 still support 3d-flip like features?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> Ek123: uninstall the browser, then reinstall it
[23:20] <Multbrelch> codazoda, search for a program called 'disper'
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> Netalarm: it can have the cube nonesense, yes
[23:21] <Multbrelch> http://willem.engen.nl/projects/disper/
[23:21] <Netalarm> ActionParsnip, how would I be able to use that?
[23:21] <Multbrelch> It helps a lot when u work with beamers and ext. TV screens
[23:21] <codazoda> Multbrelch: I've read about that elsewhere but didn't install it because it wasn't in Synaptic.  I'll go get it.
[23:21] <FatSteve> I want to install Ubuntu (11.04) on partition C: of my HDD. At the moment, I do have Windows 7 installed on it. So, my question is, can I boot Ubuntu from my CD , format partition C, and install linux on it, without risking the valuable data I have on partition D? My "D:" has 500 GB of data so I cannot move the data. Ty.
[23:21] <Multbrelch> codazoda, u need to install the repository
[23:22] <SPELINAX> Hola
[23:22] <SPELINAX> gente
[23:22] <Multbrelch> codazoda, just follow the advices on this page ... and use the repository for Maverick
[23:22] <SPELINAX> tengo un problema
[23:22] <vuln> I assumed it should be simple to turn on Compiz with Cube rotation and so on in Unity on Ubuntu 11.10
[23:22] <FatSteve> SPELINAX, try english..
[23:22] <Ek123> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I'll do that now...
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> Netalarm: enable it in ccs,
[23:22] <serialk> hello
[23:22] <deej1976> !es
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> ccsm
[23:23] <codazoda> Multbrelch: Got it.  I'll try that.  Thanks for the advise.
[23:23] <codazoda> *advice
[23:23] <serialk> which command is executed to mount a partition in /media when I open it in nautilus ?
[23:24] <SPELINAX> Hola alguoen me puede ayudar?
[23:24] <deej1976> !en
[23:24] <Jonii> deej1976: this isn't working as I expected it to. I thought the pre-existing launcher items would be in the same place the new ones will be placed
[23:25] <SPELINAX> HOLA GENTE!
[23:25] <SPELINAX> hay alguien?
[23:25] <SPELINAX> Spanish
[23:25] <FloodBot1> SPELINAX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:25] <unique> i am trying to install ubuntu on intel i5 processor 64bit... do i need the ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso file?
[23:25] <Jonii> But since that tutorial suggests I make a directory called ~/.local/share/applications, I take it it's not the case. So I can't pinpoint where does Ubuntu find those default programs to be included in the launcher the first an account is created
[23:26] <blackshirt> unique; you can use 32/64 bit ubuntu, but maybe more eficient with amd64
[23:26] <deej1976> Jonii: I've not tried adding Quick lists, looking /usr/local/share/applications
[23:27] <deej1976> jonii: sudo find / -name applications -type d
[23:27] <unique> blackshirt: its confusing me that the file is called amd64 and im installing it on i5
[23:27] <deej1976> jonii: Possible locations
[23:27] <trism> Jonii: the items that should be in the launcher are kept in dconf, but the actual launcher files can be in several locations (usually either /usr/share/applications or ~/.local/share/applications/)
[23:27] <FatSteve> !pm
[23:27] <blackshirt> unique: don't be confuse, amd64 just for a name 64bit sistem, not specific to AMD
[23:28] <JViz> how do I deal with a null directory name?
[23:28] <FatSteve> deej1976, ok, I`m sorry.
[23:28] <trism> Jonii: the defaults are set in the gsettings key com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites, you can see the default values in dconf-editor (but it just lists the .desktop files that are loaded)
[23:28] <unique> blackshirt last question, to install it with RAID1 i only need the -alternate-amd64.iso file right?
[23:29] <mmoebius> JViz: What do you mean by "null" directory name ? ... A directory name cannot be an empty string.
[23:29] <blackshirt> unique: yeah, or server edition
[23:30] <JViz> mmoebius: ls lists it as (null), but ls (null) says -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[23:30] <deej1976> mmoebius : yes it can mkdir " " "  "
[23:30] <mmoebius> JViz: ( and ) are special characters to bash. You need to escape those.
[23:31] <mmoebius> try ls \(null\) or ls "(null)" or ls '(null)'
[23:31] <JViz> mmoebius: that worked
[23:31] <JViz> lol
[23:31] <mmoebius> deej1976: A space character is not an empty string.
[23:31] <deej1976> ok
[23:32] <serialk> nobody know about my previous question ?
[23:32] <mmoebius> deej1976: You can evan have ANSI-Escape sequences in dir names. That wat great fun in the good ol' tiokmes when ls didn't filter those by default and people started to have ANSI terminals ;-)
[23:32] <Jonii> trism: oh, ty, that answers my question
[23:32] <serialk> +s
[23:32] <vuln> I assumed it should be simple to turn on Compiz with Cube rotation and so on in Unity on Ubuntu 11.10.. Has anyone had a good experience on doing that?
[23:33] <mmoebius> serialk: Most likely, nautilus issues the mount() call to the kernel, directrly, why ?
[23:35] <Jonii> trism: I take it those defaults are not to be tampered with unless you know really well what you're doing?
[23:35] <mmoebius> serialk: Otherwise, run strace -p <pid of nautilus that mounts stuff> as root and watch it issue a call or an execve() ... Most likely you want the -o option of strace and analyze the resultiung big file later. Dirty work but foolproof
[23:35] <serialk> mmoebius: my nautilus isn't launched as root
[23:36] <Jonii> I kinda expected something more user-friendly, like a folder or a single file that lists all the launcher items
[23:37] <trism> Jonii: do you mean edit individual items or edit the items listed in the launcher?
[23:37] <Ek123> Is Firefox 8 not in the 11.04 software centre yet?
[23:37] <Jonii> trism, both, really
[23:37] <deej1976> !ff | Ek123
[23:38] <mmoebius> serialk: try whatever works for you. User may work. I wouldn't know. Espcieally if the mounbter would run over a helper-program that is suid and you try to follow with the apppropriate strace option, you would want t orun strace as root. Before, read the strace man page anyways.
[23:38] <trism> Jonii: you can add items to the launcher by dragging and dropping them there, right click and uncheck them to remove them
[23:38] <mmoebius> serialk: and consider -t -r and -s 150 or greater. Just my 2cent ;-)
[23:38] <trism> Jonii: if you want to edit an item, I usually create (or copy) the desktop file into ~/.local/share/applications and then you can edit the file as you need
[23:39] <trism> Jonii: you'll need to drag and drop it back on the launcher for the changes to take effect, and you generally want to rename custom items so they don't conflict with system version from /usr/share/applications/
[23:40] <Jonii> So it's by default gui-thing to modify launcher? Okay
[23:41] <Ek123> ActionParsnip: When I reinstalled Firefox through the software centre I got FF7 even though 8 is the latest stable release. Did I remove the wrong repo or is the software centre version not necessarily always the newest version?
[23:43] <chaospsychex> how do i install 'iostat' ? 'sudo apt-get install iostat' outputted pkg not found
[23:43] <zykotick9> !info firefox | Ek123
[23:44] <deej1976> !info iostat
[23:44] <chaospsychex> what?
[23:44] <chaospsychex> well how to i make the pkg myself and install it ?
[23:44] <trism> chaospsychex: maybe the sysstat package, it has a /usr/bin/iostat binary
[23:45] <deej1976> !sysstat
[23:45] <deej1976> !info sysstat
[23:45] <deej1976> chaospsychex: sudo apt-get install sysstat
[23:45] <Ek123> zykotick9: Oh thanks, I didn't know about the !info command. I guess It'll update itself as usual then?
[23:46] <zykotick9> Ek123, i know ubuntu changed the rules about software updates for firefox, but i don't really know the specifics
[23:47]  * deej1976 closing laptop
[23:47] <Ek123> zykotick9: Ah ok, I'll look into that then
[23:48] <zykotick9> Ek123, but you're right, firefox's current version is 8
[23:48] <spinx> ive managed to have 1 monitor on 1 card and the other monitor on the other card. so now im running 1 screen on 1 card and vise versa and 2 seperate x-screens. and that improved performance very well instead of using 2 screens on 1 card
[23:49] <stochastic> hey, at a recent update my flash plugin started acting weird, certain video sites just show a white screen
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> !find iostat
[23:49] <Vey> I have a question. I installed 11.04 and it  has unity. I want to go back to classic ubuntu like in 10.10 on my other computer. But at the login screen I don't have the ubuntu classic option. I installed the gnome one but it's was the right one . I don't know what's the command to install the classic desktop. Does anyone know ? all the tutorial says it should be switchable at the login screen but it's not
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: those 2 packages may help
[23:50] <daniel__> hola
[23:50] <daniel__> yo hablo español y necesito ayuda
[23:50] <kaushal> Hi
[23:50] <zykotick9> !es | daniel__
[23:50] <blackshirt> Vey: i don't exactly, but there are "gnome-fallback" packages
[23:51] <kaushal> is there a way to forcefully update ubuntu desktop clients from server ?
[23:51] <daniel__> gracias
[23:51] <zykotick9> Vey, is it 11.04 or 11.10 that you installed?
[23:51] <Vey> blackshirt, I'll search the web about those. oh I think zykotick9 is right, Might be the 11.10 I installed
[23:51] <mbeierl> I have 11.04, ATI driver with catalyst control centre installed.  How do I change the screen colour depth to 16?  There are no options for depth anywhere\
[23:52] <zykotick9> !notunity | Vey
[23:52] <zykotick9> Vey, "lsb_release -a" in a terminal will tell you for sure
[23:54] <Ek123> zykotick9: If I download Firefox from their site I can get version 8 but then it won't update properly will it?
[23:54] <Vey> zykotick9, definitely 11.10.   I'll look into the gnome-shell package. I tried one but dont recall which
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> Ek123: there is a PPA you can use, you can even use the nightly to get 11 if you fancy
[23:55] <kaushal> Any clue about http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/741754/ ?
[23:58] <BarkingFish> !details | kaushal
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: use: ps -ef | grep dpkg    what is output?
[23:59] <Ek123> ActionParsnip: I think I found the ppa you're talking about: 'firefox-stable' but it says it's aimed at Lucid and Maverick users. I'm on Natty, should that make a difference?