[03:00] <tertu> so I've been having a few kernel panics recently
[03:04] <tertu> guess what just happened to me
[03:05] <tertu> it happens whenever i have my compaq hne-200 usb box
[03:32] <jacobguy7800> Hi
[03:33] <jacobguy7800> How do I add apps to categories on my menu?
[03:35] <jacobguy7800> I set the app launcher menu to show when I right click and now I need to add minecraft to it
[03:36] <jacobguy7800> Actually now it's in the lost & found cat, how do I change that to games
[03:37] <jacobguy7800> WAIT I just right clicked on the kickoff
[03:37] <jacobguy7800> sry
[04:40] <uBUXUBu> hi kubuntu
[04:53] <jacobguy7800> cls
[04:54] <jacobguy7800> Sorry
[04:54] <jacobguy7800> I have a problem with audio
[04:56] <jacobguy7800> Waiiiiiiiiiiiit did I uninstall pulseaudio?
[04:57] <jacky> o.O
[04:57] <jacky> what's going on?
[05:05] <jacobguy7800> Hi
[05:05] <jacobguy7800> I have a problem with pulseaudio
[05:05] <jacobguy7800> I have no sound
[05:08] <jacobguy7800> Hello?
[05:09] <jacobguy7800> Anyone here?
[05:12] <jacobguy7800> I'm just gointg to go to #ubuntu
[05:12] <jacobguy7800> ...jerks.
[06:33] <soee> good morning
[06:53] <zopsi> Anyone know if it is possible to install Kubuntu in a VM then transfer to a HDD with real hardware?
[06:55] <zopsi> well maybe possible was the wrong word there. Is it feasible?
[07:03] <HardWareGuy> uhh, did an update break gwenview
[07:04] <HardWareGuy> LLVM ERROR: Program used external function '__morestack' which could not be resolved!
[07:04] <HardWareGuy> ugh i updated llvm recently
[07:04] <HardWareGuy> my other llvm things still work though
[07:05] <valorie> zopsi: why not just install on the hdd?
[07:05] <valorie> that's the easiest way
[07:07] <valorie> run the live session, see if the important stuff works, then install
[07:09] <soee> HardWareGuy: works fine here
[07:09] <soee> im on 14.04
[07:09] <HardWareGuy> soee:  13.10 here
[07:09] <soee> valorie: are you on Saucy ?
[07:09] <valorie> yes
[07:09] <soee> can you check please ?
[07:10] <valorie> check what?
[07:10] <soee> valorie: [08:03] <HardWareGuy> uhh, did an update break gwenview
[07:10] <valorie> oh, gwenview
[07:10] <valorie> I never use it, sorry
[07:10] <soee> ah ok :D
[07:10] <HardWareGuy> what image viewer do you use on kde
[07:11] <valorie> opens up with no error though
[07:11] <HardWareGuy> same, but loading ANY image and it craps
[07:11] <valorie> I mean, the application opens, and a random image opens
[07:12] <HardWareGuy> sigh i have to figure out if it's the new llvm or some legacy problem
[07:13] <zopsi> valorie, I use it for a server and it is located in the attic. I want to configure and compile my software on my desktop vs. sitting in the attic.
[07:13] <valorie> everything seems fine; I can do fullscreen, go to any folder, etc.
[07:14] <valorie> zopsi: ssh in?
[07:15] <zopsi> valorie: that would make sense, but the thing is half the stuff in the house relies on the server. I wanted to make a seamless swap of hard disks or something similar.
[07:17] <valorie> surely there is a way that computer manufacturers do it
[07:17] <valorie> just image rather than installing
[07:20] <zopsi> What do you mean by image?
[07:20] <valorie> where you dd one drive to the other
[07:20] <valorie> an exact copy
[07:21] <valorie> not sure that it's possible to do that from a VM though
[07:22] <zopsi> yeah that is what I was thinking of doing just wasnt sure about drivers and all that
[07:24] <valorie> that's the thing - a manufacturer is installing on indentical boxes
[08:02] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:51] <gitg> Hello, I am new to kubuntu and I need to configure an HP wireless printer but nothing I do seems to work
[12:42] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[13:36] <nashant_> hey. anyone know how to get an icon only taskbar?
[13:45] <claydoh> nashant_:  there is the icon-only-taskbar widget, I think Fancy tasks might be able to do this as well. You just replace  the Task Manager plasma widget on the panel with a different widget
[13:46] <nashant_> claydoh: Found it, thanks
[13:46] <claydoh> ;)
[13:46] <hanibana> hi, I am installing Kubuntu 12.04 Desktop on new PC. It seems like it does not have the LVM option on partitioning stage of installation. How can I install it with
[13:46] <hanibana> LVM?
[13:47] <nashant_> next question, at the moment all sides of the touchpad are being used as scrolling triggers. I only want right and bottom. How would I do that?
[14:01] <nashant_> hanibana:
[14:02] <nashant_> hanibana: load up the live desktop, install lvm2 (and system-config-lvm if you want to use a gui), sort out your partitions then run the installer
[14:10] <nashant_> claydoh: Is there a way to switch desktop with a window, like shift+ctrl+alt+<arrow> in unity?
[14:20] <nashant> claydoh (or anyone): Is there a way to switch desktop with a window, like shift+ctrl+alt+<arrow> in unity?
[14:20] <BluesKaj> nafg_, whynot just add pagers in the panel for virtual desktops
[14:20] <BluesKaj> oops nashant
[14:21] <nashant> Ah, for me :)
[14:22] <BluesKaj> nashant, system settings>workspace behaviour>virtuak desktops
[14:22] <BluesKaj> virtual
[14:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> beat me too it.
[14:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> under the switching tab
[14:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> you can set KB shortcuts to do just that, nashant
[14:23] <nashant> Found that, but it doesn't seem to have it for me
[14:23] <Poisoned_Dragon> ?!
[14:23] <nashant> I've got the switch desktop, but can't see switch desktop with window
[14:23] <Poisoned_Dragon> with window?
[14:24] <nashant> Yeah. So it takes the currently focussed window with it
[14:24] <nashant> Also, I'd love to be able to use the windows key to bring the menu up
[14:24] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh....
[14:25] <Poisoned_Dragon> I think you have to move the window first.
[14:26] <BluesKaj> !virtual desktop  | nashant
[14:26] <BluesKaj> no info bot
[14:27] <BluesKaj> nashant, in virtual desktops choose the number ou want
[14:28] <BluesKaj> then in panel toolbox add the pagers in widgets search
[14:28] <nashant> BluesKaj: I've got that sorted. I want to be able to switch desktops, taking a window with it, using ctrl+shift+alt+<arrow>.
[14:29] <BluesKaj> why bother switching  I don't get it
[14:30] <nashant> I like to have set workspaces for set things. So I've got a win7 VM in the bottom right, xchat in top right, chrome in top left and terminals in bottom left
[14:31] <BluesKaj> I just use launchers for that
[14:31] <nashant> if I start, say, a terminal in the top left I want to be able to then switch to bottom left, taking the terminal with it
[14:31] <FlyingFoXy> is there a reason not to delete '/usr/src/linux-headers*' or is there a cleanup tool that takes care of those not needed any more?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> FlyingFoXy, use sudo apt-get autoremove and autoclean
[14:37] <FlyingFoXy> BluesKaj: that seems to not clean anything. I have linux-headers-3.0.0-[15|16|19|19-generic] there and only 19-generic is in my grub.cfg
[14:40] <BluesKaj> FlyingFoXy,, then do dist-upgrade , that might get rid of uneeded headers
[14:40] <BluesKaj> gotta go ...stuff to do ..bbl
[14:40] <FlyingFoXy> ty
[14:40] <Poisoned_Dragon> Jinkies... Kernel 3.0?
[14:41] <Poisoned_Dragon> Kubuntu 12.04LTS is 3.2 at first install.
[14:41] <FlyingFoXy> Poisoned_Dragon: i have 3.11 there as well, but I think i wil need them :)
[14:42] <FlyingFoXy> this install may have gone through several dist-upgrades already ^^
[14:56] <BluesKaj> FlyingFoXy, you can remove it manually , sudo apt-get remove --purge 2.6.24-25-* (example)
[14:56] <FlyingFoXy> BluesKaj: yeah, did that already
[14:56] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:56] <FlyingFoXy> I am still trying to get like 4GB more free space ^^
[14:59] <BluesKaj> uhm , kernels don't take up much space
[15:01] <BluesKaj> anyway i have an appointment with the dentist, which I'm not looking forward to...so laters
[15:02] <FlyingFoXy> bye
[15:49] <Crell> Hi folks.  I'
[15:49] <Crell> bah.
[15:50] <Crell> Hi folks.  I'm having trouble connecting to a VPN using openvpn / network-manager (or whatever the default applet is).
[15:50] <Crell> It's just telling me that it's timingout.  Where would I find the logs to pass on to my network admin?
[17:20] <jacobguy7800> Anyone here?
[17:22] <nashant> Is there a way to get the windows key to bring up the app menu?
[17:23] <jacobguy7800> Let me see
[17:23] <jacobguy7800> Right click on the K menu, Applaucherr menu settings, and then key board shortcuts.
[17:24] <jacobguy7800> And set it to the Super key (Windows key in linux)
[17:25] <nashant> It won't let me. Just says 'meta+...'
[17:25] <jacobguy7800> Huhhhh
[17:26] <jacobguy7800> Oh, you have to set a combination. Apparently the super key here is the meta key.
[17:27] <jacobguy7800> So it was waitting for meta+something, like meta+a
[17:27] <nashant> I got that
[17:27] <nashant> I want just the meta part though
[17:28] <nashant> I suppose meta+space isn't too bad
[17:28] <jacobguy7800> I'm sorry - I'm a linux n00b. Possibly autohotkey could fix it...
[17:31] <jacobguy7800> I have no sound on kubuntu7, help
[17:32] <jacobguy7800> I have no sound on kubuntu 13.1-\0
[17:32] <jacobguy7800> TYPO!!!!!!
[17:32] <jacobguy7800> I have no souynd on kubuntu 13.10
[17:34] <jacobguy7800> I have no sound on kubuntu
[17:34] <BluesKaj> Crell, install network-manager-openvpn , then open the panel tool box and install the network manager widget
[17:35] <Crell> BluesKaj: My network admin figured it out. New year means the VPN credentials expired. :-)  He's reissuing them.
[17:35] <Crell> Thanks.
[17:35] <jussi> nashant: you can do it, although its a minor hack. it involves setting up an extra key that isnt mapped anywhere. You cant really get support to do that here, but if you google around, there are some guides available
[17:36] <jussi> jacobguy7800: can you be more specific? which card you have, did you ever have sound? if yes, what did you do just before sound was lost? etc
[17:38] <jacobguy7800> Oh sorry for the slow respone
[17:38] <BluesKaj> jacobguy7800, open a terminal and type, aplay -l , the copy and paste the line beside "Card 0" , here
[17:38] <jacobguy7800> jussi: It's an integrated chip, a realtek
[17:38] <jacobguy7800> Okay...
[17:39] <jacobguy7800> card 0: MID [HDA Intel MID], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
[17:40] <jacobguy7800> I've had sound before, but I needed to get skype3 working so I dowloaded pavucontrol and pavumeter.
[17:41] <jacobguy7800> *not skype3 just skype
[17:41] <BluesKaj> johnflux_, ok sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , then reboot ...it's acommon intel bug after upgrades
[17:41] <BluesKaj> oops jacobguy7800^
[17:41] <jussi> ahh yeah, I had forgotten about that one
[17:41] <jacobguy7800> But i didn't upgrade...
[17:42] <jacobguy7800> I downloaded 13.10 iso yesterday...I just got my computer
[17:42] <Ghil2> try it, I'm pretty sure BluesKaj is completely right.
[17:42] <jacobguy7800> Ok
[17:42] <BluesKaj> did you upgrade some packages after installing
[17:43] <jacobguy7800> One time I added a repo and then upgraded my sources but uhh...
[17:43] <jacobguy7800> That was for skype
[17:43] <jacobguy7800> (I think skype is the problem)
[17:44] <jussi> jacobguy7800: in anycase, try what BluesKaj suggested
[17:44] <jacobguy7800> I did. I'm rbooting now.
[17:44] <BluesKaj> skype can be iffy on kubuntu
[17:45] <jacobguy7800> Ok
[17:46] <jacobguy7800> Let me test the sound
[17:46] <Ghil2> skype can be iffy on linux, sadly -_-
[17:47] <jacobguy7800> I'm testing it with an OSfirsttimer video, and there's no sound
[17:48] <jacobguy7800> So what do I do, just purge skype?
[17:49] <jussi> jacobguy7800: try plugging in headphones and unplugging them... sounds silly... but still
[17:50] <BluesKaj> odd tho , skype should work with the intel hda driver, it 's very common
[17:50] <jacobguy7800> Maybe i should try different headphones
[17:51] <jacobguy7800> I don't have sound anywhere
[17:51] <jacobguy7800> Not just skype
[17:51] <BluesKaj> different headphones won't make any difference
[17:51] <jacobguy7800> I know but what if these ones are broken? They're pretty old
[17:52] <BluesKaj> jacobguy7800, open alsamixer in the terminal ,and make sure you have muted controls MM, use the M key to unmute
[17:53] <jacobguy7800> Ok
[17:53] <BluesKaj> no muted ctrls rather:)
[17:53] <BluesKaj> jacobguy7800, ^
[17:53] <jacobguy7800> I've got 3 things I can choose and all of them say 00
[17:54] <BluesKaj> make sure automute is disabled as well
[17:54] <BluesKaj> turn the ctrls up to at least 90%
[17:55] <jacobguy7800> How do I change it?
[17:55] <BluesKaj> use the arrow keys
[17:56] <jacobguy7800> I can't change them
[17:56] <BluesKaj> < > to navigate, the up and down keys to increase decrease the volume
[17:56] <jacobguy7800> Up and down don't do anything
[17:57] <BluesKaj> you have to navigate to the particular ctrl , it should bve highlighted in red
[17:57] <jacobguy7800> Yes, it's hilited red
[17:57] <jacobguy7800> It's not giving me control
[17:58] <BluesKaj> do you know what I mean by the arrow keys?
[17:58] <jacobguy7800> Yes
[17:58] <BluesKaj> beside the number pad
[17:59] <jacobguy7800> The ones under Insert,Home,PageUp,Delete,End,AndPgDown Keys, the Arrow keys!
[17:59] <jacobguy7800> The Keys you select things with!
[17:59] <jacobguy7800> I can go left and right
[17:59] <jacobguy7800> I just can't change the volume
[18:01] <BluesKaj> turn the volume up with the up key
[18:01] <jacobguy7800> I know how arrowkeys work, BluesKaj.
[18:01] <BluesKaj> i don't know what you know
[18:02] <jacobguy7800> I'm screen shotting my alsa mixer
[18:02] <BluesKaj> or don't know , so don't take offence
[18:03] <jacobguy7800> http://i40.tinypic.com/yh185.png
[18:06] <BluesKaj> open system settings > multimedia > audio & video > device preference > choose the HDA Intel analog device that works with the test button
[18:07] <BluesKaj> jacobguy7800, gotta go ...we're snowed in here, have to clear the walk and driveway
[18:07] <jacobguy7800> ok. Wait, where are you!?
[18:07] <jacobguy7800> In BC it's totally green!
[18:08] <BluesKaj> In Ontario ,  40 mins west of Sudbury
[18:08] <BluesKaj> bb in an hr or so
[18:17] <fuke> hi
[18:21] <ChickenBrain> hmm, I have no menus in KDE after a fresh ubuntu install and then I installed kde via sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:22] <ovrflw0x> ChickenBrain did you restart?
[18:22] <ChickenBrain> sure
[18:22] <ChickenBrain> more than once :)
[18:24] <ovrflw0x> ChickenBrain .kde folder
[18:24] <ovrflw0x> delete that folder
[18:24] <ChickenBrain> ok
[18:24] <ChickenBrain> then re-login?
[18:25] <ovrflw0x> restart
[18:25] <ChickenBrain> ok, then I leave here as well :)
[18:28] <ChickenBrain> ovrflw0x, no change :)
[18:28] <ChickenBrain> if I know the application I can start it
[18:28] <ovrflw0x> ChickenBrain try kwin --replace
[18:28] <ChickenBrain> but no menu
[18:29] <ovrflw0x> you mean no "File Edit etc menu"?
[18:29] <ChickenBrain> maybe I am too stupid and layout has changed
[18:29] <ChickenBrain> but I was used to have a "list" of all applications
[18:30] <ChickenBrain> somewhat organized
[18:30] <ChickenBrain> in groups
[18:30] <ovrflw0x> did you try "kwin --replace"?
[18:30] <ChickenBrain> and if I press the "K" button bottom left corner and then on applications there is nothing
[18:30] <ChickenBrain> yes
[18:30] <ChickenBrain> I could see the monitor flicker when it changed
[18:31] <ovrflw0x> ChickenBrain i don't get it - what do you mean by i don't see "menu"?
[18:31] <ChickenBrain> pressing "K" opens a screen similiar to windows start menu
[18:31] <ChickenBrain> there I have favourites, applications, computer, recently used tab
[18:32] <ChickenBrain> favourites is fine, some to choose from
[18:32] <ChickenBrain> computer is fine, some to choose from
[18:32] <ChickenBrain> but nothing under "Applications"
[18:32] <ChickenBrain> no entries
[18:32] <ovrflw0x> http://askubuntu.com/questions/367466/kde-application-menu-items-missing ChickenBrain  <--
[18:34] <ChickenBrain> yes, that could have been my description (isn't though)
[18:34] <ChickenBrain> so seems like a "known" bug?
[18:34] <ovrflw0x> ChickenBrain are you having the exact same problem?
[18:34] <ChickenBrain> exactly
[18:35] <ChickenBrain> to the point, but there is no solution to it as far as I read it :)
[18:35] <ovrflw0x> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <---
[18:35] <ovrflw0x> oh ok nvm
[18:37] <ChickenBrain> and that one I already tried yesterday (on the same post)
[18:38] <fuke_> hi is there is somebody who can help me
[18:38] <fuke_> Iam problem while configuring LDAP
[18:38] <ovrflw0x> ChickenBrain delete the launcher and add again
[18:38] <fuke_> IN RHEL ^
[18:39] <fuke_> redhat 6
[18:40] <ChickenBrain> nothing changed
[18:42] <ChickenBrain> funny
[18:43] <ovrflw0x> ChickenBrain http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1898866&page=2
[18:46] <ovrflw0x> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1898866&page=2&p=11598351#post11598351  AND   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1898866&page=2&p=12304854#post12304854
[18:46] <ovrflw0x> ChickenBrain get the attachement from 1st link and do what the 2nd link says
[18:49] <ChickenBrain> cool
[18:49] <ChickenBrain> works
[18:49] <ovrflw0x> :D
[18:49] <ChickenBrain> plenty of errors as output from the 2nd executable
[18:49] <ChickenBrain> but it works now
[18:49] <ChickenBrain> room for improvement, but thanks
[18:49] <ovrflw0x> i forgot how does ChickenBrain sound? quack quack
[18:50] <ChickenBrain> haha, like a person with no brain :)
[18:50] <ChickenBrain> anything I need to do now?
[18:50] <ChickenBrain> assuming that it is a bug somewhat
[18:51] <ovrflw0x> ChickenBrain dunno maybe you need to google or file a bug
[18:51] <ChickenBrain> ok, thanks :)
[19:58] <Whiskey`Wonka> anyone familure with marble?
[20:01] <BluesKaj> google maps works well
[20:02] <Whiskey`Wonka> nien
[20:02] <Whiskey`Wonka> it works like crap on 13:10
[20:02] <Whiskey`Wonka> it also wants many many 32bit packages, even for the 64bit one as it is just a wrapper setup
[20:03] <Whiskey`Wonka> back on 12 it was fine but with the move to drop the old libs its not workable and its kludgy as hell
[20:03] <BluesKaj> not google earth , google maps , runs in an ordinary browser , nothing to install
[20:03] <Whiskey`Wonka> ah but has no kmz/kml support
[20:04] <Whiskey`Wonka> i /need/ a 3d render, sorry.
[20:04] <BluesKaj> works fine here , on 13.10, perhaps your graphics driver is out of date
[20:04] <Whiskey`Wonka> nien, brand new laptop
[20:05] <Whiskey`Wonka> in fact it misbehaves on 5 laptops and 2 desktops all 13.10
[20:05] <BluesKaj> same here , which graphics ?
[20:05] <BluesKaj> new laptop that s
[20:06] <Whiskey`Wonka> a mix, this laptop (that i will not try and install it on again) is a gen3 intel using the 915 driver
[20:06] <Whiskey`Wonka> another laptop has a 1st or 2nd gen intel using the 915 driver also
[20:06] <BluesKaj> yup , same as this one
[20:06] <Whiskey`Wonka> the others are 2 ati and one nvidia
[20:06] <Whiskey`Wonka> and the errors are gfx
[20:07] <Whiskey`Wonka> the 64bt one doesnt wrap correctly and blows up when GE seaks info from the net
[20:08] <Whiskey`Wonka> the 32bit one doesnt do that (as often) but still requires lots of 32bit packages and then runs into loops with depends
[20:08] <Whiskey`Wonka> namely the lsb-core stuff. i think on 13.10 i also end up with package conflicts with something else but i forget now
[20:09] <Whiskey`Wonka> marble looks like it would be perfect
[20:10] <Whiskey`Wonka> it runs faster then GE does on all of these in fact
[20:11] <Whiskey`Wonka> the main issue with marble is te resolution. would love for it to use the google db heheh
[20:18] <BluesKaj> i gave up on GE , google maps works well enough now that I don't have any need for GE
[20:24] <Whiskey`Wonka> If i did not need the 3d i would not need it
[20:30] <BluesKaj> Whiskey`Wonka, try the libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental , iworks very well here on OpenGL 3.1 and raster Qt graphics
[20:30] <BluesKaj> along with i915 intel graphics driver
[20:31] <Whiskey`Wonka> BluesKaj: use it for what?
[20:31] <BluesKaj> for OpenGL and 3D
[20:31] <Whiskey`Wonka> that looks like part of the 3d layer not an application for 3d expression of globes
[20:31] <Whiskey`Wonka> yea, again, 3d quality is not the issue
[20:32] <Whiskey`Wonka> and i figured out marbles lack of decent sat photo's. still not as good as GE but far better then the 250meter stuff that is default
[20:32] <BluesKaj> alright fine, i won't bother you anymore
[20:35] <Whiskey`Wonka> you are not bothering me at all
[20:40] <BluesKaj> one thing about marble it has embedded info about geographic locations so an internet connection isn't always necessary
[20:42] <latsin> sgs
[20:44] <goodtime> /msg NickServ
[20:44] <goodtime>           IDENTIFY
[20:44] <goodtime> /msg NickServ
[20:44] <goodtime>           IDENTIFY
[20:44] <FloodBotK1> goodtime: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:45] <LjL> that's one way to attempt to give us your password
[20:45] <goodtime> oops
[20:46] <LjL> it's okay though, we saw nothing because the floodbots silenced you!
[20:46] <goodtime> heh i was trying to paste it in my terminal but i accidentaly pasted it in my irc client .... ooopppsss
[20:47] <goodtime> thats a good floodbot
[20:47] <goodtime> :)
[20:53] <BluesKaj> goodtime, use the server textbox for that , not the chat
[22:34] <nypersian> hi, I am downloading the Kubuntu x64 (since my hardware supports it).... however I noticed that the x32 is recommended on the download page..... any recommendation????
[22:34] <Poisoned_Dragon> how much ram you got?
[22:35] <Poisoned_Dragon> And, do you plan on handling files greater than 4Gb?
[22:39] <nypersian> sorry got a phone call... I have 12 GB
[22:39] <Poisoned_Dragon> Of ram?!
[22:39] <nypersian> yeap
[22:40] <Poisoned_Dragon> x64, mandatory.
[22:40] <nypersian> thought so,,, just wanted to get some ideas here.... thanks >_<
[22:40] <Poisoned_Dragon> ram in excess of 4GB requires a x64 os.
[22:41] <nypersian> It was odd that it was recommending x32 as general download, considering most of today's PCs are equipped with x64 CPU and more than 4 GB of ram
[22:43] <Poisoned_Dragon> Pfft.
[22:43] <Poisoned_Dragon> In your world maybe.
[22:43] <Poisoned_Dragon> Over here, only new pcs have that
[22:44] <Poisoned_Dragon> I don't get to use today's pcs. :)
[22:44] <nypersian> thanks anyways.... have a good one
[23:20] <jacky> If I wanted to check the output of a key, how would I do that?
[23:20] <jacky> think it might be a X tool for it
[23:21] <gomiboy> jacky: xev
[23:22] <jacky> gomiboy: sweet, thanks
[23:22] <jacky> a lot of grepping this output
[23:28] <jacky> looks like 3 keys on my keyboard aren't showing up.
[23:28] <jacky> Esc, F1 and and Page Down