[13:34] <Sven_vB> if you like to enter experimental commands, better get a lab environment aka automated re-install with puppet or its friends
[13:34] <Sven_vB> in addtition to proper backup, of course
[13:35] <Seannie> I would like to set up transmission bittorrent client. I'm stuck trying to understand the one site's suggestion of creating a new user, but then modifying the new user account to have changed permissions and group access.
[13:36] <Sven_vB> Seannie, which part of it is it you're struggling with?
[13:36] <vak> any RAID gurus?..
[13:37] <vak> how could one disable mdadm no boot? (mdadm runs into an infinite loop and prevents system from booting into Ubuntu) #mdadm isn't any alive now (((
[13:37] <kali-rao> hi
[13:38] <Seannie> well, if i went into system settings and then user profiles, and added a standard user called "example", then from terminal, navigate to user home folder, i should be able to mkdir but i cannot. i don't want to progress with changing user access to groups if i can't create a directory in that folder non?
[13:38] <Sven_vB> vak, are you sure disabling it is better than trying to fix the reason why it's going into loop?
[13:38] <meek_geek> has anyone used testdisk ( recovery program ) on linux ?
[13:39] <vak> Sven_vB: I'd be happy! but I am not yet able to do so! that's why I'd be happy to boot in native OS at least (usung old Ubuntu 13 livecd now)
[13:40] <vak> Sven_vB: mdadm --assemble --scan works fine on Live CD...
[13:40] <Sven_vB> Seannie, better change the name to a meaningful one while it's still easy. might name it "bittorrent" or something. then, to make a folder there, you'll need proper permissions for that. easiest way would be to login as bittorrent, use its identity to make the folder and change the folder's permissions so that your desktop user can access it as well.
[13:41] <Seannie> can i shell to the user account from terminal, or do i have to log off and log back in?
[13:41] <Sven_vB> vak, what kind of damage has happened?
[13:43] <Sven_vB> Seannie, it should be possible to login the BT user without logging out your desktop user. also yes, on a terminal just use "su -l bittorrent" or what username it is. -l for "login"
[13:43] <DrGrov> Hi, running Xubuntu 14.04 64-bit and experiencing that the official Ubuntu repositories in Finland are slowish at the moment. Can I easily switch to Swedish ones but still keep the few extra PPAs I have added?
[13:43] <vak> Sven_vB: i guess HDDs are attached to the SATA ports deferrent than it was before and that's why mdadm stuck on boot.  i guess mdadm is somehow compiled in initramfs and won't read mdconf.conf -- could it be?
[13:43] <jellow> meek_geek, apt-get remove smc* , will remove smc and every package beginning in sm and everything that contains sm. Here is what it would do on my system http://paste.ubuntu.com/7721420/
[13:44] <A1Recon> Remember the Ubuntu 14.04 Freezing problem that I was talking about, well after I return to X from tty, the youtube videos flash like crazy!! I just hope this doesn't bug during a presentaion ..... I am the only one in my class who uses Linux you know!!
[13:44] <Sven_vB> vak, sounds plausible. are you sure doing stuff while mdadm is disabled won't break the setup or data?
[13:44] <A1Recon> ubuntu 13.10 never gave me this problem
[13:45] <bukkit> Can anyone help get a bukkit / minecraft server to start on boot? I am running into issues the various ways I try. Would seem pretty straight forward but not for me :-(
[13:45] <Sven_vB> A1Recon, sounds like a graphics driver problem. which do you use?
[13:45] <Sven_vB> bukkit, does it work if you start it manually?
[13:46] <vak> Sven_vB: RAID stuff in not related to OS in my case and needed for the applications. So, I'd be happy first to disable it
[13:46] <jellow> meek_geek,  as you can see it removes over 600mb of files , don't use apt-get and any regular expression :P
[13:46] <bukkit> Sven_vB: yes, both ways that I attmepted start great manually, not on reboot
[13:46] <hyper320> hi, my Ubuntu 14.04 doesn't start after i put the HDD in my laptop
[13:46] <vak> Sven_vB: it looks like things are hidden in initramfs somehow now... (((
[13:47] <meek_geek> jellow, heh yep man i remember it was removing a lot similar packages but when i saw packages like girl.1 etc i thought its a virus but i have a question
[13:47] <A1Recon> Sven_vB: Nvidia Proprietary driver...because the nouveau used to run my NVIDIA all the time I got like  55 minutes to 1:20 hrs on full battery . But even the proprietary gives me just 2 hrs or a wee bit more...
[13:47] <Sven_vB> bukkit, would it be ok to use a desktop user account with auto-login and use its autostart mechanism to launch bukkit?
[13:47] <bukkit> Sven_vB: let me clarify. Yes it will start manually flawlessly after a startup, not on any reboot. Not sure on a cold boot thought (some say this made a difference to them)
[13:47] <meek_geek> did it ask for any confirmantion msg before purging ? jellow ?
[13:47] <hyper320> hi, my Ubuntu 14.04 doesn't start after i put the HDD in my laptop
[13:48] <jellow> meek_geek, it would have asked for a y/n confirmation
[13:48] <Sven_vB> bukkit, if you'd prefer a shell-y alternative, try the magic "@reboot" time in cron
[13:48] <A1Recon> And the WORST part is I wanted to keep Ubuntu 14.04 for  along time. But this thing makes it unusable
[13:48] <bukkit> Sven_vB: In this case I think it would. I already have a seperate user account specifically for this server and nothing else
[13:49] <meek_geek> jellow, but it did not ; do you recall any stuff thing ?
[13:49] <meek_geek> else why would i want to remove all that man!!
[13:49] <bukkit> Sven_vB: End goal is just that anytime the computer boots, it starts Minecraft server
[13:49] <Sven_vB> A1Recon, i agree on nouveau not being ready yet. can't tell about battery times.
[13:50] <Sven_vB> bukkit, are you experienced in shell output redirection?
[13:50] <hyper320> it works fine on my PC where i installed ubuntu but not on my laptop, i can enter Grub2 though
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Nouveau works great on my Nvidia 6150LE
[13:50] <bukkit> Sven_vB: My default account already auto logs in, the bukkit server account does not, would setting that bukkit account to autologin effect the default, and no I am not that experienced with shell output redirection
[13:51] <A1Recon> I hate NVIDIA. I never got this LAptop for serious gaming. I just wanted it to have good GPU power for those rare times when I needed it.
[13:51] <hyper320> can anybody help me?
[13:51] <Sven_vB> bukkit, having multiple desktop users login is an advanced problem. i'll read a bit about bukkit startup modes.
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> bukkit: you can run commands as other users in Linux.
[13:51] <jellow> meek_geek, I'm not sure then, it does on my system when I run through sudo
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> hyper320: what is the issue?
[13:52] <vak> Sven_vB: do you have any ideas how to disable (or reconfigure) RAID to get through the boot?
[13:52] <Sven_vB> vak, i failed to find a solution to disable madm while the OS is not accessible from inside. maybe someone else knows.
[13:52] <hyper320> ActionParsnip: i installed ubuntu 14.04 on a HDD and put it into my laptop, but it doenst start
[13:53] <meek_geek> jellow, it did not ask me for any confirmation
[13:53] <Energy_> lol
[13:53] <Sven_vB> meek_geek, issuing commands as root IS the confirmation
[13:53] <vak> Sven_vB: i see. Thank you anyway. Should i rather try to get into initramfs console first?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> hyper320: if you boot liveacD, are the drive UUIDs the same as in the fstab on the installed OS?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> hyper320: *livecd
[13:54] <Sven_vB> vak, i'd try searching for kernel boot options, maybe you find one that i didn't
[13:54] <meek_geek> Sven_vB, so by typing sudo apt-get purge smc* i prove that i have confirmed and it required no further yes/no ?
[13:54] <A1Recon> Youtube frooze again...
[13:55] <hyper320> ActionParsnip i cant boot on liveCD because my CD burner is broken, and USB doenst work either because it cuts power during boot
[13:55] <michiel81> Hello
[13:55] <A1Recon> As of right now, I hate Ubuntu 14.04
[13:55] <A1Recon> Its official.
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> hyper320: can you boot to root recovery mode from Grub?
[13:55] <hyper320> than stick with 12.04
[13:55] <Sven_vB> meek_geek, yes, the "sudo" was for "surely understood, do oddities"
[13:56] <michiel81> I was wondering does anyone have experience with Touch controllers/touch screens and 14.04?
[13:56] <meek_geek> Sven_vB, Ok thanks a lot
[13:56] <hyper320> ActionParsnip no it gets stuck at IMA: No TPM chip found, activating TPM-bypass!
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: did you upgrade from 12.04 or is it a clean install from CD?
[13:56] <meek_geek> jellow, thanks man
[13:56] <Sven_vB> meek_geek, also be aware that apt-get does queued operations of which you might not be aware that they have been queued. it's one reason why i prefer aptitude.
[13:57] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: Clean install from CD.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> hyper320: did you set your USB to legacy mode? May help
[13:57] <hyper320> ActionParsnip in BIOS?
[13:57] <Guido1> Hello, is there a channel for oracle virtual bo have internet and share folders.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: i see. Well. 12.04 is supported til April 2017. Could use that
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> hyper320: yes
[13:59] <hyper320> ActionParsnip need to check if my ASUS board support it, i cant see it in my BIOS settigs
[13:59] <michiel81> I've installed Ubuntu i386 on a Intel D525 system with a 'ChenMtech' touch controller, however this touch controller is not in the 'usb_hid' list which causes it to be found as a 'tablet' interface/input. Dev ID 1bfd:3050. I managed to get it to register input and some of the touch 'motions' but i can't get it to calibrate at all.
[13:59] <jellow> meek_geek, no problem in future you can use -s simulate flag with apt-get so for instance apt-get -s remove scary_looking_regex*[] and will list changes and not touch the system.
[13:59] <A1Recon> Action Parsnip: How do I run software update and upgrade from Terminal? apt-get upgrade and apt-get update? Also will it update the Nvidia propritary drivers if, there's a new one available?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: if you installed the driver using the packages, then yes
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ,will run full updates from CLI
[14:01] <A1Recon> TY ActionParsnip
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Np
[14:01] <Sven_vB> A1Recon, consider aptitude ;)
[14:01] <laryu_bsod> how to download spy eye builder
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> !aptitude
[14:02] <YokoBR_> hey guys, i've noticed that latest ubuntu server has only "php5-sybase", and i coundn't find "php5-mssql"
[14:02] <meek_geek> jellow, What does -s do ?
[14:02] <YokoBR_> my mssql connections are not working anymore
[14:04] <hyper320> ActionParsnip it seems my BIOS doenst support USB legecy
[14:04] <michiel81> anyone with touch / touch controller experience?
[14:04] <jellow> meek_geek, No action; perform a simulation of events that would occur but do not actually change the system. There is a more comprehensive in manual files, so "man apt-get"
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> meek_geek: read the man page and find out......
[14:04] <meek_geek> jellow, ok
[14:06] <thomasfuston> Aloha, got a lil' problem with a brother DCP laserprinter here; I am using ubuntu 12.04 and the driver is installed, but the prints are unclean, below every g and p  there are black prints wihtout reason, any clue what could cause this?
[14:06] <meek_geek> jellow, so its like you see it and it does not do it ; a demo basically
[14:06] <jellow> meek_geek, yes
[14:09] <michiel81> So i take it no one here can help me with my touch related problems?
[14:11] <hyper320> hi, my ubuntu doenst start on my laptop where i put in the HDD with ubuntu
[14:13] <hyper320> hi, my ubuntu doenst start on my laptop where i put in the HDD with ubuntu
[14:14] <manaar333> where is the french part of ubuntu
[14:14] <manaar333> ?
[14:16] <hyper320> #ubuntu-fr
[14:16] <hyper320> #ubuntu-fr-testing
[14:16] <hyper320> #ubuntu-fr-meeting
[14:16] <hyper320> #ubuntu-fr-offtopic
[14:20] <Guest51889> software updater is giving me the error:  not enough free space on disk `/boot`
[14:25] <ikonia> Guest51889: then remove some legacy kernel packages
[14:25] <ikonia> Guest51889: that will clear up space on /boot
[14:26] <emileb> hi all does anyone know an apt-package with the nginx-upload module? nginx-extras says it does, but it doesnt.
[14:26] <anudas> Guest51889: yes, you can remove other old not used kernels
[14:26] <ikonia> emileb: how does nginx-extras say it does but doesn't
[14:26] <anudas> Guest51889: also, there are unused modules in /var/usr/src/
[14:27] <ikonia> here should be nothing in /var/usr
[14:27] <ikonia> there
[14:27] <anudas> Guest51889: modeules, libs, etc.
[14:27] <emileb> ikonia: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/amd64/nginx-extras says it has the upload module. But after installing its not in the nginx -V
[14:27] <ikonia> there should be no such directory
[14:27] <ikonia> as /var/usr
[14:27] <anudas> /var/usr/src
[14:28] <ikonia> /var/usr should not exist
[14:28] <ikonia> emileb: just having a read
[14:28] <anudas> ikonia: you have maybe different version
[14:28] <ikonia> anudas: nope
[14:29] <emileb> ikonia:  maybe upload module got superseeded with something or am i missing somethign
[14:29] <anudas> aha, exuse me ,,, /usr/src
[14:29] <ikonia> emileb: so are you reading "3rd party modules" and you think it includes sthose ?
[14:30] <emileb> ikonia: Yep. It says third party, but it does for instance have the upload-progress but just not th eupload
[14:30] <ikonia> emileb: that seems most odd, where on the file system is the upload progress module
[14:32] <anudas> by the way, is there possibility to install unity web player?
[14:32] <ikonia> anudas: as in the games engine unity ?
[14:32] <anudas> ikonia: yes
[14:33] <ikonia> anudas: what does the unity website say about linux support for the web player ?
[14:33] <anudas> ikonia: nothink
[14:33] <ikonia> anudas: so it actually has no reference to any linux support
[14:33] <anudas> ikonia: there is windows and mac
[14:33] <anudas> ok
[14:34] <ikonia> anudas: so there is your answer, "no" only windows and mac
[14:35] <cfhowlett> anudas you could attempt installing in wine but expect little in the way of success or support
[14:35] <ikonia> I wouldn't waste your time
[14:35] <ikonia> considering the cost of unity
[14:35] <ikonia> I'd want it to work %101 and have support
[14:35] <anudas> cfhowlett: ok >/]
[14:38] <den> Hey can any of you help me with Jack?
[14:39] <cfhowlett> den probably more help in #opensourcemusicians or in #ubuntustudio
[14:39] <den> Alright thanks. Sorry about that.
[14:44] <bjensen82> my /boot partition is full. Which files are safe to delete?
[14:44] <ikonia> bjensen82: none
[14:45] <ikonia> bjensen82: use the package manager to delete unused kernel packages
[14:45] <bjensen82> well when I do an apt-get upgrade it fails because there is no room on the device
[14:45] <ikonia> right, so don't do that
[14:45] <ikonia> delete legacy kenrel pages
[14:45] <ikonia> packages
[14:46] <bjensen82> umm how can I get apt-get to output the related ones?
[14:46] <ikonia> bjensen82: you don't
[14:46] <ikonia> open the package manager, and delete unused kernel packages,
[14:46] <ikonia> linux-image would be a good search term
[14:47] <bjensen82> I dont xwindows installed..
[14:47] <philinux> bjensen82;~ I run this one liner, always do the dry run first, step 6 > http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/10/remove-old-kernels-in-ubuntu-with-one-command/
[14:47] <bjensen82> philinux: cool thanks
[14:48] <philinux> bjensen82;~ it will leave you with the latest kernel
[14:51]  * Koushik Hello Everyone !!
[15:10] <philinux> bjensen82;~ had to reboot, did it work?
[15:10] <bjensen82> yeah it worked. thanks mate
[15:11] <meek_geek> Does Ubuntu ship with rootkit scanner by default ?
[15:11] <ikonia> no
[15:11] <k1l> meek_geek: no. but you can install from ubuntu repos
[15:12] <meek_geek> ikonia, I think Ubuntu need to ship more and more secure stuff by default
[15:12] <ikonia> then you think wrong
[15:12] <ikonia> a rootkit scanner is not "secure stuff"
[15:12] <Madeleine21>  Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://j.mp/1sOLjk7
[15:12] <ikonia> it's just a wothless app
[15:12] <ikonia> meek_geek: please don't spam them here
[15:12] <ikonia> oops
[15:12] <Kartagis> how can I find out whether my ctrl+space is hijacked by an application?
[15:13] <ikonia> Madeleine21: please don't spam videos here
[15:13] <k1l> meek_geek: think about it: what sense would make a rootkit scanner if the image was already compromised? so either you trust the official ubuntu iso or you dont install it at all
[15:13] <meek_geek> k1l, I see
[15:14] <meek_geek> but are rootkit scanners needed  ?
[15:14] <ikonia> they can be useful
[15:14] <meek_geek> Linux kernel does not by default have such measures ?
[15:14] <ikonia> meek_geek: the linux kernel is not a file system scanner
[15:15] <k1l> meek_geek: its not a one-click-and-all-is-fine solution. you need to know what you are doing. and most regular users dont know
[15:15] <meek_geek> most users don't even have firewall set to on
[15:15] <ikonia> ubuntu sets basic rules by default to on
[15:16] <meek_geek> ok
[15:18] <meek_geek> ikonia, have you ever seen a rootkit on your computer ?
[15:18] <ikonia> no, but I have seen it on other peoples machines
[15:19] <dididodo> hi ... i'm a bit afraid of upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04, thereby risking that my classic gnome desktop and other things will not work anymore or i have to spent hours and days to tweak them back to normal. any comments?
[15:20] <meek_geek> ikonia, What do you have to say about the security of ubuntu ?
[15:21] <cfhowlett> dididodo 12.04 is supported until 2017.  enjoy.
[15:21] <k1l> meek_geek: security on the system relys on the behaviour of the user. if you install stuff from any webpage you find there is a lot more risk of getting bad software into your system, for example
[15:21] <ikonia> meek_geek: not much
[15:21] <robynata> :-D
[15:23] <dididodo> cfhowlett, sure, thats plan B
[15:23] <nikomx> Hi room
[15:23] <meek_geek> k1l, Ok I don't install anything but free software from main repos
[15:24] <k1l> meek_geek: well, install fro sources you trust. and if you isntalled ubuntu you already trust ubuntu and so the official ubuntu sources.
[15:25] <meek_geek> k1l, but ubuntu is not trusted widely and they ask to switch to Trisquel or Debian
[15:25] <meek_geek> is it because of the Spyware story ?
[15:25] <ikonia> meek_geek: who says it's not trusted ?
[15:26] <ikonia> I know of many businesses and educational research units trusting ubuntu without question
[15:26] <meek_geek> ikonia, Jacob - the tor guy, prism-break.org, RMS, and many other people
[15:27] <ikonia> meek_geek: right, so prism-break.org = the most stupid website I've even seen - written by foolish poeople,
[15:27] <k1l> meek_geek: that is a agenda from one special group. if you not only read the FUD you will see that its not about security in first place.
[15:27] <ikonia> meek_geek: RMS = one guy out of touch with the real world and often laughed at
[15:27] <dididodo> meek_geek, trust is relative, different people have different ideas about it
[15:27] <cfhowlett> perhaps a discussion best continued in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[15:27] <k1l> cfhowlett: meek_geek yep
[15:27] <ikonia> meek_geek: a few people making unbalanced and sometimes foolish statements does not mean ubuntu is not trusted
[15:27] <liupp> hello
[15:28] <ikonia> meek_geek: the key factor is do "you" trust ubuntu
[15:28] <ikonia> nothing else matters
[15:28] <robynata> :-*i love open source all free
[15:28] <nikomx> 😃
[15:28] <dididodo> meek_geek, RMS is right on many things but likely not  on all things
[15:28] <nikomx> Me too roby
[15:29] <robynata> :)linux is the best one
[15:29] <liupp> good night
[15:29] <liupp> everybody
[15:30] <meek_geek> dididodo, but Ubuntu has that contract with Amazon.com about the search queries
[15:30] <robynata> ubuntu 14.04 is beutifull:-*
[15:30] <meek_geek> also it ships with non-free blobs in the kernel unlike Debian
[15:30] <ikonia> meek_geek: which ones ?
[15:30] <cfhowlett> meek_geek so use debian then ...
[15:31] <robynata> you cant stop that
[15:31] <k1l> meek_geek: i think that topic is way beyond technical support and better fits the discussion channel: #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:32] <codephobic> hi
[15:32] <codephobic> is .bashrc removed from Ubuntu 14.04? I can't seem to find .bashrc, .bash_aliases or even .bash_profile in my home directory.
[15:33] <k1l> codephobic: press ctrl+h for hidden files in nautilus
[15:33] <robynata> i am poor man:)open source give me original sofware,thank to open source comunity
[15:34] <codephobic> klaas, I've already set hidden files to show
[15:34] <codephobic> no .bash_aliases and no .basrc
[15:34] <codephobic> :(
[15:39] <bt> Hi everyone
[15:40] <meek_geek> cfhowlett, ok
[15:40] <robynata> hi
[15:40] <meek_geek> k1l, i was just curious
[15:44] <meek_geek> after running chkrootkit it says Searching for Suckit rootkit...                             Warning: /sbin/init INFECTED
[15:49] <OerHeks> meek_geek, lots of false positives possible, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636231
[15:51] <meek_geek> OerHeks, I see
[15:52] <streulma> Maybe the wrong channel. Im using ubuntu forever. But my HP doesnt turn on. Power led white. No lan led blinking. Turn on for 30secs to lose power doesnt work. New laptop.
[15:52] <cfhowlett> streulma power supply LED = white?  on my dell = fried power supply
[15:54] <streulma> cfhowlett turn on with battery only doesnt works
[15:55] <cfhowlett> streulmay   remove the battery and try AC onl
[15:55] <streulma> Tried also cfhowlett no thing...
[15:55] <cfhowlett> streulma "new laptop"  warranty + RSA.  contact your vendor.
[15:56] <streulma> But how come that my notebook is so brain dead :(
[15:56] <dkorras> hi all, please can you help me. I am at my wits end here. To setup my ubuntu machine automatica LAN and WLAN switch with ifplugd, i have tried all the configurations I can find but nothing seems to work
[15:57] <cfhowlett> streulma it's a HARDWARE issue, not an ubuntu issue.  contact HP
[15:57] <vak> how could one disable mdadm no initramfs phase of the boot? (mdadm runs into an infinite loop and prevents system from booting into Ubuntu) #mdadm isn't any alive now (((
[15:57] <vak> s/no/on
[15:59] <OerHeks> streulma, "removed battery & ac power, push power button 10 sec and insert battery again" sometimes help
[15:59] <moises> hola
[16:00] <cfhowlett> !es|moises
[16:01] <moises> helli
[16:01] <moises> hi
[16:01] <cfhowlett> moises ask your ubuntu question
[16:02] <moises> no probl
[16:02] <moises> thank
[16:05] <Igramul> Hi, is there a file system driver that provides an encrypted view to a plaintext file system, i.e., the inverse of what encfs and ecryptfs do?
[16:08] <Igramul> The use-case would be to provide an encrypted view to local storage for cloud backup software.
[16:08] <Igramul> Without the encryption overhead for normal (local) usage of the storage.
[16:13] <eam> is this really the direction for ubuntu going forward? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ToolchainTransition
[16:13] <eam> appears to be an extremely broken approach
[16:14] <touil1976> Hello everybody. I'm trying to set up my ubuntu installation. I would like to create a user session which reinitialise itself every time the user logs in. Like a guest session. How can I do this ?
[16:16] <enedil> touli1976: Use a guest session?
[16:17] <rypervenche> Igramul: I think you would want to perhaps create an image that is encrypted with LUKS that you then mount and use, and you have your backup software backup the image which is encrypted.
[16:18] <enedil> touil1976: Use a guest session?
[16:18] <enyel> hello
[16:18] <touil1976> I know how to customize a guest session following some ubuntu help pages. But I fail at having a folder that is not erased when I log out.
[16:18] <enyel> somebody can help me with ubuntu?
[16:19] <Beldar> enyel, Post your problem for help. ;)
[16:19] <Igramul> rypervenche: Sure, this would be one possibility. However, I'd like to avoid the encryption overhead on the NAS in my home network and the problems of concurrent access to encrypted storage.
[16:19] <GothPaw> interestingly, I just bought 3 external drives; all 3TB.....  2 read and work perfectly without issues, both showing correct sizes..... the third one however keeps showing an incorrect  size and Im not sure what is wrong. any suggestions?
[16:19] <enyel> my ubuntu system doesnot  shutdowm
[16:20] <Igramul> GothPaw: Same vendor/type?
[16:20] <basketball> hey i installed pamusb so i can use my flashdrive to log in
[16:20] <enyel> only close cession but doesnt shutdowm what i need to do?
[16:20] <basketball> how do i have it where my password works if the usb isnt plugged in
[16:20] <GothPaw> Igramul: yes... all drives are identical drives.
[16:21] <GothPaw> and oddly if I plug all 3 into my wife's windows laptop, all 3 work properly and all 3 are the correct size. this only happens when I plug them into my Ubuntu boxes
[16:21] <Beldar> basketball, This an encrypted install?
[16:21] <enyel> Beldar i have 2 operating system instaled
[16:21] <basketball> Beldar,  of ubuntu?
[16:21] <Igramul> GothPaw: What file systems do you use? Pre-formatted?
[16:22] <Beldar> basketball, Whatever you are accessing with the usb.
[16:22] <touil1976> Can anyone give some help for my problem ?
[16:22] <basketball> Beldar,  i did this https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CBwQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dlt_qFnP149g&ei=Qj2wU7i4Is-gogSdzILYDg&usg=AFQjCNEky7wYTTNdn-c_vcrpPKYtfJ878w&sig2=ouPM6hcLd-pfTxoH9vycPQ&bvm=bv.69837884,d.cGU
[16:22] <rypervenche> Igramul: Well if you want something encrypted, you have to encrypt it :P
[16:23] <GothPaw> Igramul: Its showing a msdos part on all 3. all 3 are ntfs preformatted. plug and play out of the box (WD My Book)
[16:23] <Beldar> basketball, THat does not answer my question
[16:23] <north> Hi. I upgraded my RAM hardware from 2 GB to 6GB. But system information still shows 2 GB, while BIOS shows 6 GB. Any inputs on how to update the information for Ubuntu ? and get my OS to use this extra piece of hardware I installed ?
[16:23] <Igramul> rypervenche: ;) sure - I was looking for something like BoxCryptor
[16:24] <enyel> my ubuntu operating system doesnt poweroff .how can i fix it?
[16:24] <basketball> Beldar,  then idk what you are asking
[16:24] <rypervenche> Igramul: Ah, well you could get something like SpiderOak or Owncloud to do that then.
[16:25] <north> Any input is appreciated. please
[16:25] <St_Marx> north, is it a 32-bit kernel?
[16:26] <north> Yes.
[16:26] <north> And my proc also supports 32-bit
[16:26] <St_Marx> maybe this is a similar problem, then: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-4gb-ram-limitation-solution/
[16:26] <north> St_Marx:
[16:26] <Igramul> rypervenche: This has two disadvantages: vendor-lock-in and having to trust the vendor
[16:27] <nuget102> Hello guys!
[16:27] <north> Do I need to install 64 bit kernel ? St_Marx ?
[16:27] <basketball> Beldar,  can you rephrase the quesrion
[16:27] <nuget102> I was wondering if anyone knows of a way to create a backup CD without download software? Or is the best/easiest way just to download something?
[16:27] <bekks> north: For using more than 4GB on 32Bit, you need a PAE kernel.
[16:27] <Igramul> rypervenche: Nevertheless, thank you. I will use ecryptfs and have the backup software access the encrypted files.
[16:27] <St_Marx> or a PAE kernel, north?
[16:27] <north> Oh ! how do I get it ?
[16:28] <Beldar> basketball, Is the operating system you are accessing with the usb encrypted if not I could get into your HD's in the time it takes to boot a supergrub disc or a ubuntu live.
[16:28] <rypervenche> Igramul: owncloud is open-source, but yeah
[16:28] <bekks> north: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-pae
[16:28] <basketball> Beldar,  no it is not encryped
[16:28] <St_Marx> north, check the "Option 2." there, or google "install PAE kernel on Ubuntu"
[16:29] <north> cool. Will get back if it doesn't work
[16:29] <north> Thanks guys
[16:29] <St_Marx> yw
[16:29] <Beldar> basketball, So is the the usb for protection?
[16:29] <basketball> Beldar,  no to save time
[16:29] <basketball> where i just plug it in and it types my password
[16:30] <Beldar> basketball, this a really long pasword?
[16:30] <basketball> but i also want to be able to type my password if i dont have the flashdrive with me
[16:31] <Beldar> basketball, A manual boot will should get you to log in.
[16:31] <basketball> Beldar,  no at the login screen i want to also be able to type in password if i dont have usb
[16:31] <basketball> but when i do it says incorrect password even though it is correct
[16:32] <Beldar> basketball, Does this usb have the grub boot besides the auto password?
[16:32] <basketball> Beldar,  i boot into ubuntu normally then i put in usb and press login and it logins for me
[16:33] <meccooll> netstat result tcp6       0      0 :::80                   :::*                    LISTEN does that mean it's also listening on ipv4 too???
[16:33] <OerHeks> basketball, try auth required > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1159457
[16:34] <nuget102> Can anyone tell me how to make a backup CD? All the tutorials seem to say I need to download some program. Is there Ubuntu has by default I could use?
[16:34] <OerHeks> errr "auth sufficient" means that device isn't required for authentication.
[16:35] <Beldar> basketball, Ah, not sure what to say if your password is just not working now at the login, never used the tool.
[16:35] <OerHeks> nuget102, brasero should do that, making an image of a media
[16:36] <nuget102> I mean to make a ubuntu backup disk, so I can reinstall ubuntu if I need to?
[16:37] <OerHeks> there is a backup utility standard installed ( 14.04)
[16:37] <Beldar> nuget102, You mean as exactly the same as you have it tweaked now?
[16:38] <nuget102> Well I don't have it tweaked, but my latest installation disk is version 11.10, it takes me about 2-3 hours to re-update if I do have to re-download ubuntu.
[16:39] <shorty> hello
[16:39] <nuget102> I'm running ubuntu 12.04, is there a way I can update it? :P
[16:40] <Beldar> nuget102, You need at the least a disc with a supported release. Having the 14.04 would be your best bet, you have 5 years support and a the most important tool you could have for repiars and a reinstall.
[16:41] <Beldar> nuget102, er 12.04 than
[16:41] <nuget102> So I should keep 12.04...?
[16:42] <GothPaw> Igramul: Its showing a msdos part on all 3. all 3 are ntfs preformatted. plug and play out of the box (WD My Book)
[16:42] <histo> !upgrade | nuget102
[16:42] <Beldar> nuget102, You can have what you want, the point is have a disc of that release as well.
[16:42] <histo> OerHeks: what backup utility do they have in 14.04 standard?
[16:42] <nuget102> I would prefer the latest stable release. Is that 14.04?
[16:42] <histo> nuget102: yes 14.04 is LTS
[16:43] <histo> nuget102: when 14.04.1 comes out you can upgrade directly from 12.04
[16:43] <shorty> hello histo
[16:43] <Igramul> GothPaw: hmm... I'm running out of ideas. How do you meter the size on linux?
[16:43] <nuget102> thank you Beldar and histo; i'll update to 14.04 then make a backup of that. :3
[16:43] <OerHeks> Deja Dup
[16:43] <Igramul> GothPaw: Maybe check "dmesg" for the reported media size.
[16:43] <histo> nuget102: Why are you upgrading to make a backup STOP
[16:44] <histo> nuget102: make a backup now,  when 14.04.1 comes out, then you upgrade to that directly from 12.04
[16:44] <Igramul> GothPaw: Then check the partition table with gpartd or fdisk (do NOT change it with that tools).
[16:44] <shorty> apologies in advance for the lentghty text. here it comes: i have a laptop with win7 and ubutnu in dual boot mode with wubi installer. when i boot i get this error : bootmgr missing ctrl alt del to restart. there's nothing that needs to be recovered. someone suggested to do download an ubuntu iso(on windows machine) and reinstall ubuntu from disk
[16:44] <nuget102> oooh I misunderstood you, my bad. xD
[16:44] <Beldar> GothPaw, If they are all plugged in can you run sudo parted -l and pastebin the output.
[16:44] <shorty> this does not seem to work
[16:45] <shorty> my question: does the harddrive need to be empty for this?
[16:45] <shorty> i burned 5 cd's
[16:46] <Beldar> shorty, wubi is not supported, and a bad idea.
[16:46] <shorty> none of them seem to boot or install.they just get stuck
[16:46] <shorty> yes,i learned this now
[16:46] <kyle__> How do you tell ubuntu which LUKS volumes it needs to boot?
[16:46] <shorty> i just want to fix my machine
[16:47] <shorty> i want to install it proper but  it just doesn seem to work
[16:47] <shorty> i put in the disk and choose : iunstall
[16:47] <shorty> but it gets stuck after a few minutes
[16:47] <Beldar> shorty, fixing that wubi is unlikely, but you can access it from windows and pull what you need to have on a real dualboot.
[16:47] <shorty> nonono,i don't want to fix wubi
[16:48] <shorty> well,also i can not acces the windowws
[16:49] <Beldar> shorty, Your info is hard to follow you are using the enter way to much. Can you state in one post your intention/end goal?
[16:49] <mohab> hiii all
[16:50] <shorty> yes sir
[16:51] <mohab> I have a problem with the file suffix. Sh
[16:52] <mohab> Again I have added a new user and deleted the previous
[16:52] <shorty> Beldar: i followed this to the letter :http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/burn-a-dvd-on-windows
[16:52] <Beldar> !details | mohab
[16:52] <mohab> It is no longer read the files is chased. Sh
[16:53] <Beldar> shorty, Sure, are you booting it to the desktop for the install?
[16:53] <shorty> yes,but it keeps on getting stuck the process of booting that is.
[16:53] <shorty> tried to run it from the cd
[16:54] <shorty> and also tried to install
[16:54] <shorty> this did not work for me,i burned 5 cd's lol
[16:54] <Beldar> shorty, Preface every answer with a nick when addressing others and no need for sir here please, this is just courtesy stuff for your benefit. ;)
[16:54] <shorty> ah yes sorry Beldar
[16:55] <Beldar> shorty, Black screen on boot?
[16:56] <shorty> Beldar: no purple,with ubuntu and then an animation like a .gif where you see 5 little dots loading up soto speak
[16:56] <Beldar> !md5sum | shorty
[16:56] <shorty> checksum
[16:56] <shorty> i see
[16:57] <Beldar> shorty, YOU using a dvd?
[16:57] <shorty> ah yes
[16:57] <Beldar> shorty, Cool, check the sum of the iso is a good start.
[16:58] <shorty> thank you ubottu
[17:00] <mohab> ok
[17:00] <mohab> I have a problem with Plumblvat Alahakh. Sh
[17:00] <mohab> It was working correctly before they Create a new user
[17:00] <mohab> After you create a user and work on it, but from the oldFiles are no longer working and I have tried to run from terminal
[17:00] <mohab> Show me this letter:mohab@mohabo-System-Product-Name:~/Downloads/Xonotic$ ./xonotic-linux-glx.sh
[17:00] <mohab> ./xonotic-linux-glx.sh: 131: exec: ./xonotic-linux32-glx: Permission denied
[17:00] <shorty> Beldar: about the error : BootMGR is Missing press ctrl alt del to restart. any tips that i could try out (instead of trying to do a new installation over it) maybe like a linux recovery tool??
[17:02] <shorty> Beldar i answerred that question myself
[17:02] <mohab> Do you have an idea for a solution to this problem؟؟
[17:02] <meet> hi. i have ubuntu1404 based system. everything was working fine but from yesterday getting errors to do sudo tasks. my user is not allowed to execute commands with sudo. I think the following commands are responsible which I did for some software. sudo usermod --group audio,video,fuse,cdrom,plugdev xbmc .  sudo usermod --group audio,video,fuse,cdrom,plugdev meet   sudo adduser meet users. am i correct? how to undo?
[17:03] <Smashcat> Hi, anyone know how to update openssl on Ubuntu 13.04 to the latest version to fix this week's vulnerability?
[17:03] <Beldar> shorty, THat is the wubi error right?
[17:04] <Smashcat> I'm currently patched for heartbleed, but not the tested one
[17:04] <shorty> well ,acually i think it's bios.but i'm not sure
[17:04] <Smashcat> s/tested/latest
[17:04] <shorty> Beldar: well ,acually i think it's bios.but i'm not sure
[17:04] <mohab> I have a problem with Plumblvat Alahakh. Sh
 It was working correctly before they Create a new user
 After you create a user and work on it, but from the oldFiles are no longer working and I have tried to run from terminal
 Show me this letter:mohab@mohabo-System-Product-Name:~/Downloads/Xonotic$ ./xonotic-linux-glx.sh
 ./xonotic-linux-glx.sh: 131: exec: ./xonotic-linux32-glx: Permission denied
[17:07] <Beldar> shorty, This a windows boot error, bootmgr is a bcd
[17:08] <Beldar> afk shorty
[17:08] <shorty> Beldar :ah, well an windows repair disk doens help this either
[17:08] <atrx> dos Santo got it
[17:08] <shorty> thanks anyway
[17:09] <histo> Smashcat: 13.04 is end of life so it's not receiving security updates
[17:09] <histo> !eol | Smashcat
[17:11] <Smashcat> histo: I managed to use a debian package to update it last time for heartbleed, but can't remember here I got that deb package from. Wondering if anyone else has done the same and has the package for this version. I undertand what EOL means.
[17:11] <histo> Smashcat: then whyt have you not migrated from an EOL release yet?
[17:12] <Smashcat> histo: There are reasons, it's acloud server and cannot be taken offline to update
[17:12] <histo> Smashcat: You should run LTS on a server
[17:12] <Smashcat> histo: Do you have anything useful to add, or just want to argue?
[17:12] <histo> Smashcat: I'm not arguing just trying to figure out, why you haven't updated.
[17:13] <Smashcat> I inherited this, and it cannot currently be taken offline to update
[17:14] <histo> Smashcat: what is the output of openssl version -b
[17:14] <Smashcat> built on: Mon Apr  7 20:33:19 UTC 2014
[17:15] <Smashcat> It was just after the heartbleed fix
[17:15] <Beldar> shorty, You are jumping between issues one ubuntu the other windows lets get a bootable ubuntu disc so we can run a script to diagnose the windows boot if you want to fix it and it's just that bootmgr error.
[17:15] <histo> Smashcat: Yes,
[17:15] <histo> Smashcat: you can try installing the deb from a different version of ubuntu and hope to not experience dependency hell.
[17:16] <Smashcat> histo: Hmm, Can't hurt I suppose. At worst it won't install I guess...
[17:16] <histo> Smashcat: What is the output of dpkg -l | grep openssl
[17:17] <Smashcat> ii  openssl 1.0.1c-4ubuntu8.2  amd64
[17:17] <noel__> Bonjour
[17:17] <histo> Smashcat: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/openssl
[17:18] <eeee> !fr | noel__
[17:18] <noel__> Merci
[17:18] <Smashcat> histo: Thanks, I think I've tried this, but I'll check again.
[17:19] <histo> Smashcat: if it breaks your server, you've been advised to upgrade.
[17:19] <histo> Smashcat: What is the ultimate plan for this machine? At some point you will have to upgrade.
[17:19] <Smashcat> histo: I've cloned the server so I can check on that first
[17:19] <shorty> Beldar: i'm not at home,since i can't use my laptop to go online. i'm at a friend now. and i don't have my laptop with me to be honest.
[17:20] <eeee> how can i check if an ubuntu server allows users to use certain ports?
[17:20] <Smashcat> histo: Ultimately I'll be migrating to a new instance, but the current one has too many high-usage sites to migrate them all off at the moment
[17:20] <histo> eeee: what ports and what users?
[17:20] <Beldar> shorty, Ah, well do you understand my last point? Get a bootable ubuntu disc and come back for help from it.
[17:20] <eeee> i set up psybnc correctly but when i connect i get no response
[17:20] <Smashcat> histo: I'll probably stick another server in front as a load balancer so I can migrate more easily in the future
[17:20] <histo> Smashcat: when you migrate go to Long Term Support release instead of a point release.
[17:20] <behrooz> when i use sudo , give this error . i don't know what happen . http://paste.ubuntu.com/7722386/
[17:21] <histo> Smashcat: like aim for 14.04 migration
[17:21] <shorty> yes sir
[17:21] <Smashcat> histo: Yep, I know about using LTS - but I didn't set this server up initially. I inherited the mess :)
[17:21] <behrooz> i can't run any command need root permission
[17:21] <histo> Smashcat: yuck
[17:21] <eeee> i set the port to 63829, the user is a standard user
[17:21] <histo> behrooz: is this the only user acocunt on the system?
[17:22] <behrooz> yes
[17:22] <Smashcat> histo: Sorry about being curt earlier - been a rough day with this and some related issues...
[17:22] <histo> eeee: what are you running on that port?
[17:22] <eeee> histo: psybnc
[17:22] <histo> behrooz: boot in single user mode and fix your sudoers or your groups
[17:22] <vak> How could one disable mdadm on initramfs phase of the boot? (mdadm runs into an infinite loop and prevents system from booting into Ubuntu)
[17:23] <behrooz> you means boot to recovery
[17:23] <histo> eeee: netstat -tan | grep 63829
[17:23] <histo> behrooz: yes
[17:23] <shorty> Beldar: i'll be back in in a couple of days
[17:23] <behrooz> ok
[17:24] <eeee> histo: Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address          Foreign Address        (state)
[17:24] <eeee> tcp4       0      0 *.63829                *.*                    LISTEN
[17:24] <histo> eeee: it's listening then.
[17:24] <eeee> could it be im using the wrong server host in irc?
[17:25] <histo> eeee: is there a router in the way or firewall rules?
[17:25] <eeee> i used the shell.host.com (the address i used to ssh)
[17:25] <Beldar> shorty, Cool, we have a script for diagnosing boot issues a windows boot as suggested is a fairly easy fix, however not everyone here will know this fix from the windows recovery disc I can give you the instructions now if you like.
[17:25] <shorty> wow so amaze
[17:25] <shorty> okay Beldar
[17:27] <histo> vak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Initramfs
[17:27] <eeee> histo: not that im aware of, is there a way to see the external ip of the server?
[17:27] <Beldar> shorty, What is the windows release and is it just a boot issue is all?
[17:27] <shorty> win7 and yes just the boot
[17:27] <histo> eeee: ip addr
[17:27] <calp> hello, how should I go about getting a very recent release of the kernel installed as a package?  ie: 3.16-rc2
[17:28] <histo> calp: why?
[17:29] <calp> histo: drivers for my wireless card are patchy, and it's recommended in this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1239578
[17:29] <holstein> eeee: you are connecting through a shell provider to irssi or some client running in screen/ssh there? and cant connect to freenode?
[17:29] <histo> calp: you'd probably be best finding a ppa
[17:29] <vak> histo: these basics are known to me... how to disable mdadm in the initrd image? remove mdadm.conf? -- didn't help. Remove mdadm binary? boot crashes into nash console without posibility to type anything in there... any other ideas??
[17:29] <eeee> holstein: yes
[17:29] <calp> histo: how about the instructions on this page?: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild
[17:30] <Beldar> shorty, http://pastebin.com/TCaPxubi
[17:30] <eeee> holstein: more accurately, i cant connect to the running service
[17:30] <holstein> eeee: i had to specify a different port to get through.. what you can do is, connect from your local machine there, and see that you *can* connect to freenode. then, try from the shell.. if you cant, then, you'll know that the issue is with the networking at the host
[17:30] <holstein> eeee: you cant connect to what running service? screen? ssh?
[17:31] <eeee> holstein: psybnc
[17:31] <histo> calp: looks good to me
[17:32] <Beldar> shorty, There have been issues with the wubi doing a grub update and putting it in the mbr, I think that is your issue.
[17:32] <holstein> eeee: i use irssi in screen.. http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi/
[17:32] <eeee> holstein: ok thanks
[17:34] <eeee> holstein: it connects to freenode fine i just tried, but the problem is that i cant connect to the running service on the shell (psybnc)
[17:34] <shorty> Beldar: that is actually the first thing i tried,BUT i used a repair disk instead of the installation disk,i dont hva the installation disk. also the commands : FixBoot, ScanOs, RebuildBcd. i got the output: unable to repair the blah (can't remember)
[17:34] <shorty> didn work
[17:35] <calp> does anyone know if eventually 3.16 will eventually make it into ubuntu trusty?
[17:35] <holstein> eeee: i use screen for that functionality, and easily reconnect
[17:35] <Smashcat> histo: Turned out I just needed the library - http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssl/libssl1.0.0_1.0.1-4ubuntu5.16_amd64.deb - worked out great!
[17:36] <Beldar> shorty, You may only have the boot partition as active, you can make the C main install partition active and it should work, you can do this active work with gparted on the live ubuntu by moving the bootflag to C
[17:37] <Beldar> shorty, Or be sure to point those commands at C in the recovery discs terminal, you have to have to have a bootable windows recovery or install disc
[17:38] <eeee> histo: holstein: thanks for your help
[17:39] <Beldar> shorty, That diagnostic link in the pastebin really is a key link for my help.
[17:42] <captainchris> hi everybody
[17:42] <Beldar> nasa we have a problem
[17:42] <captainchris> i'm french and i search people to speak computer
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[17:43] <jimkros> 60 Jillybean kel39 esteeven rethus Maratich piokie tsunamie riex DEADB33F Tylexon alexa jerrytgarcia Keanu73 octanium8 whiskers75 Kitar|st n-st godgodgodgo Sagitt IdleOne jottr vgezer brontosaurusrex CodeGosu nerdys0uth ToAruShiroiNeko devunt Aki-Thinkpad djural biella__ biella_ parduse DURgod dfgas zamba xGLaDER anon4953 Tabmow DividedByZero quackgyver_ sbujnak subz3r0 anon3847 dings_ Defaultti DarkSim happyface husker MistaMike maedox_ FrankZZ Jake0720
[17:43] <jimkros> 9 RyanKnack skasturi|away ryanhellyer Ol3f3l180rn AntiSpamMeta edenist Angelous Transfusion ivan`` djeimsyxuis funch_ surfdue Klumben cereal Vbitz tharkun HeN IceMonkey G4MBY NBhosting commodor B0r3dw15dom Ownix STiK_M three18ti fraggle_ ColmeneroM EugeneBandit mehdi _andyj_ zz_LoRdToLsToI yena twisted`_ Kenzi` nottrobin_ wycats KeelOfSteel LordDeath tkataja____ ballPointPenguin sultanselephant FourDollars_ Robbilie capri Boreeas JordanJ2 justin_jnf
[17:43] <jimkros> 55 resolutions khaitanya TriJetScud euphoria derFlo Lartza Guest51755 McLive whitenite jinie IceCream markthomas NickG365 erikj mac_nibblet i_ron CraHan makije frecel thirsteh_ pnielsen_ SleePy BlackCobra1973 tgm4883__ wizonesolutions jaywink k3nt nasso_ gartral darkbasic_ Trozz_ Cybert1nus natewalck_ echoe anushbmx kg-irc aaa801__ guntbert_ _ruben_ vcoinminer____ ws2k3 jost Pitel cristian_c ivan2 bizarro_1 pchero gazzerh Bluerr elky peterrus Whiskey
[17:43] <jimkros> 88 wizzywoZzy Michae|Long ftw_ FuZZ__ wafflejock__ wolrah_ Messenger_bird bouncer- conall_ moparsthbest preson1c Energy_ motto chalcedny spydon Khisanth Togusa sxar sharky pystar89 Emmanuel_Chanel LucaTM floown sergey_ txomon|home InspectorCluseau hamiltont_off badon l9 telex sveta mbalmer Zerant Karisik MrAlexandro ctag BLOWNCO zulgaban Fudge keplr_prime Schnabeltierchen edulix phunyguy Cyph3r moondoggy_ DLange blueingress TomyLobo ideopathic snufft Car
[17:43] <McLive> -.-
[17:43] <williamtdr> -.-
[17:43] <godgodgodgo> great.
[17:43] <jemyweetty> 30 Jillybean kel39 esteeven rethus Maratich piokie tsunamie riex DEADB33F Tylexon alexa jerrytgarcia Keanu73 octanium8 whiskers75 Kitar|st n-st godgodgodgo Sagitt IdleOne jottr vgezer brontosaurusrex CodeGosu nerdys0uth ToAruShiroiNeko devunt Aki-Thinkpad djural biella__ parduse DURgod dfgas zamba xGLaDER anon4953 Tabmow DividedByZero quackgyver_ sbujnak subz3r0 anon3847 dings_ Defaultti DarkSim happyface husker MistaMike maedox_ FrankZZ Jake0720
[17:43] <jemyweetty> 73 RyanKnack skasturi|away ryanhellyer Ol3f3l180rn AntiSpamMeta edenist Angelous Transfusion ivan`` djeimsyxuis funch_ surfdue Klumben cereal Vbitz tharkun HeN IceMonkey G4MBY NBhosting commodor B0r3dw15dom Ownix STiK_M three18ti fraggle_ ColmeneroM EugeneBandit mehdi _andyj_ zz_LoRdToLsToI yena twisted`_ Kenzi` nottrobin_ wycats KeelOfSteel LordDeath tkataja____ ballPointPenguin sultanselephant FourDollars_ Robbilie capri Boreeas JordanJ2 justin_jnf
[17:43] <jemyweetty> 26 resolutions khaitanya TriJetScud euphoria derFlo Lartza Guest51755 McLive whitenite jinie IceCream markthomas NickG365 erikj mac_nibblet i_ron CraHan makije frecel thirsteh_ pnielsen_ SleePy BlackCobra1973 tgm4883__ wizonesolutions jaywink k3nt nasso_ gartral darkbasic_ Trozz_ Cybert1nus natewalck_ echoe anushbmx kg-irc aaa801__ guntbert_ _ruben_ vcoinminer____ ws2k3 jost Pitel cristian_c ivan2 bizarro_1 pchero gazzerh Bluerr elky peterrus Whiskey
[17:43] <jemyweetty> 54 wizzywoZzy Michae|Long ftw_ FuZZ__ wafflejock__ wolrah_ Messenger_bird bouncer- conall_ moparsthbest preson1c Energy_ motto chalcedny spydon Khisanth Togusa sxar sharky pystar89 Emmanuel_Chanel LucaTM floown sergey_ txomon|home InspectorCluseau hamiltont_off badon l9 telex sveta mbalmer Zerant Karisik MrAlexandro ctag BLOWNCO zulgaban Fudge keplr_prime Schnabeltierchen edulix phunyguy Cyph3r moondoggy_ DLange blueingress TomyLobo ideopathic snufft
[17:43] <jemyweetty> 8 CarlFK LapJup3 Hwkiller moza Agent_Smith_BR dcmorton sepero Guest5304 yacks Hxxx dash_ Asiajey BrixSat madLyfe jellow Vivekananda jrolland-ubuntu sunkist Artemis3 pac1 ON1 steffengy1 Fanthomas90 schnitzl--- msx histo Geo mgorbach xragnar mixomathoze OerHeks e11bits sarir george2 seere_ Rurd2di Sprocks hipitihop cobakobodob Bobby_Tables JoshG The_Pugilist hdm yan Daemoen jiffe98 sddhrthrt1 dadis lsv pet2001 tarvid D-Boy Guest95457 Numline1 usr13
[17:43] <jemyweetty> 83 Arbition aschro p0wn3d YeahRight_ rypervenche expr xenoa MrChrisDruif ph8 treaki__ githogori kantlivelong calvados huff3r mindstorm zonum kerosene weez- vivid vonsyd0w jester_ alienspy Fatemeh yalue Screwba kso D4v33 Vooloo calp dv_ lilstevie DzAirmaX dually icebourg NanoArrow SharkMa-san_ paddymahoney spjt underdog` sipior peterrooney _quadHelix Fox^ lester_ billy_ran_away genial mrlesmithjr Artpicre brainproxy edwardly Church shimano heavystorm
[17:43] <sireebob> .-.
[17:43] <jemyweetty> 16 Turaiel[Offline] Phixit nftable Pwnna diytto duckydan Icedream gardar J3SS NaiveFrost_ nodedfree nomad_fr perosredo Kins MrPPS_ sosby- emid_ tinoco Tajha_ SirFunk fginther Azelphur arges chiluk` CatKiller_ Like2HlpU-Laptop morenoh153 winb_ alucard__ svm_invi1tvs Enf0 jj995__ Sedated Argafal SuperLag_ jerrcs_ yigal_ Garheade slippery1ick Gycklarn enchilado chillpil2_ awktion_ mjuszcza1 SorenHolm_ Sudopack_ Qasker moonk2 Zack_Dee_ petersaints zartoo
[17:43] <jemyweetty> 25 anexit_ Br|aN cwarner_ sigint881 Hexxeh2 moarrr ltxda1 away morphis LapsangS krisd_ Gorith pinnerup regno hellopat_ badass dumby_PC TIBS02 Mori- kyle__ Ziber Fuchs hotsatellite pate_ ProfessorKaos64 dp_wiz Elanor Ool GRMrGecko SierraAR Spec hggdh C4Cypher klew TDJACR Olivier| EncryptedCurse Relsak ubottu Arceye esde phroa ConnorM ignacio luckybunny Scyte Ridley tsimpson Dwarf WinstonSmith Shuro firewyre Xcytre Cyber_Akuma JC_SoCal Mike9863 cheesec
[17:43] <jemyweetty> 83 Cueball folivora_ lix_ Machetez raj g3kk3r_ tumppu keir Timon_Crazy Imdsm AyForest Wug Su7 bekks PricelessTalk rfoust s0l1l0quy sz0_ spearhea1___ Kurko_ skooch johnduhart PR1M3-1NST1NCT Shaun__ andrewas_ Tux WeirdEnt- lipsin_ chriswk ml74 sregister utfans05 jmiesionczek ujjain DinkMiddleton qu|x Obiwantje awpti mneptok BiDOrD yeats a930913 vidplace7 flugger- sunnymolini teward Kamilion XDS2010_ mariorz mak1 RoryHughes abc_harold Bladerunner plasti
[17:43] <Xethron> nice
[17:43] <jemyweetty> 97 geirha Laogeodritt nisstyre Adran ValicekB Guest34975 zymurgy SebastianFlyte ^Phantom^ rspinuz stree Guest33870 emacer niel flound1129 tirengarfio zombu2 Tiktalik ccb056 eirsyl vitorluz th0rn zhongfu YamakasY dsodman WhiteWolf|AWAY gimpygoo phantomcircuit Spr0cket Samopotamus Y_Ichiro elopio mgodzilla aaearon pnielsen dmarr antagomi1 Sypher elliotd123 fallout john-mcaleely smokie mthaddon omlet thirsteh gniourf meatmanek Asterisks Okaria Avihay__
[17:43] <Beldar> !topic | captainchris
[17:43] <jemyweetty> 8 GitNick grzegorz__ whitepaws cwill747_ Zesty_ jnoob22 __jae__ Aeyoun ampelbein_ Amoz ryanakca jrib jcrza gyre007 dmibrid popey aaas munz maddawg3 codethought elijah Darkwing yeticry_ Htbrdd devhost nathanr_ grepory aureianimus_ ivaldi zling_ Bercik __NiC cnj Morgawr rusty0102 f00lhardy JZTech101 karstensrage epipercepi_ moyam01_ TheFuzzb_ vilambit_ Daughain frdmn drkokandy Kow Flannel drmeister sins- bdbear debsan newbiemasih Walzmyn Yofun
[17:43] <VaticanCameos> wut
[17:43] <jemyweetty> 60 FreezingCold microto Lil eshlox NCsaba Sven_vB moondoggy diminoten GTAXL chamunks gbence edem mpkossen niee linuxthefish pipeep AnimalFarmPig z0ran CytraNet arlen calcmandan YuviPanda|brb nomic fwaokda gregmoreno Asandari sere Squall5668 Guest84124 mydogsnameisrudy thatsiebguy ambiant cobolt^ ChkDigit meaning marianne_ bhldev Peer69 h00k gregL xMopxShell PcJamesy Jeepbeats Kraln martintrojer vila Looongcat triste_ hennie_ qhartman Alina-malina
[17:43] <jemyweetty> 44 filadome digilink sysop2 melter MohammadAG klaas leagris poimen Paradisee yacc TimeRider krokus NGC3982 ddaysword zeitue iptable lolmaus Adriannom miruoy ktwo JanC ixio2 tomcheng76 ShapeShifter499 sander_ jje glebihan__ Rickmasta robotdevil Sunstream NaStYdoG ssmy bocaneri Ycarene Roswent Wujiheng flaguy48 LeeJunFan mgomezch ggherdov_ jayne SatsukiY xar- livefyre_spy Zarthus yeshuah Fogest OmnIcK someone hxm achernya Beeelow mischief tortib axisys
[17:43] <Ekushey> :o
[17:43] <sireebob> .-.
[17:43] <iDevelop> ugh
[17:43] <williamtdr> !k jemyweetty
[17:43] <DJones> .remove jemyweetty
[17:43] <Ekushey> where's the bot???
[17:43] <Xethron> :O
[17:43] <iDevelop> Someone kick em
[17:43] <captainchris> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh fuck a bug
[17:43] <Vengasyx> 91 GitNick grzegorz__ whitepaws cwill747_ Zesty_ jnoob22 __jae__ Aeyoun ampelbein_ Amoz ryanakca jrib jcrza gyre007 dmibrid popey aaas munz maddawg3 codethought elijah Darkwing yeticry_ Htbrdd devhost nathanr_ grepory aureianimus_ ivaldi zling_ Bercik __NiC cnj Morgawr rusty0102 f00lhardy JZTech101 karstensrage epipercepi_ moyam01_ TheFuzzb_ vilambit_ Daughain frdmn drkokandy Kow Flannel drmeister sins- bdbear debsan newbiemasih Walzmyn Yofun FreezingC
[17:43] <Vengasyx> 9 microto Lil eshlox NCsaba Sven_vB moondoggy diminoten GTAXL chamunks gbence edem mpkossen niee linuxthefish pipeep AnimalFarmPig z0ran CytraNet arlen calcmandan YuviPanda|brb nomic fwaokda gregmoreno Asandari sere Squall5668 Guest84124 mydogsnameisrudy thatsiebguy ambiant cobolt^ ChkDigit meaning marianne_ bhldev Peer69 h00k gregL xMopxShell PcJamesy Jeepbeats Kraln martintrojer vila Looongcat triste_ hennie_ qhartman Alina-malina filadome digilink
[17:43] <Vengasyx> 88 sysop2 melter MohammadAG klaas leagris poimen Paradisee yacc TimeRider krokus NGC3982 ddaysword zeitue iptable lolmaus Adriannom miruoy ktwo JanC ixio2 tomcheng76 ShapeShifter499 sander_ jje glebihan__ Rickmasta robotdevil Sunstream NaStYdoG ssmy bocaneri Ycarene Roswent Wujiheng flaguy48 LeeJunFan mgomezch ggherdov_ jayne SatsukiY xar- livefyre_spy Zarthus yeshuah Fogest OmnIcK someone hxm achernya Beeelow mischief tortib axisys dfcnvt pgar23 Jamme
[17:43] <Vengasyx> 80 eHAPPY kame355 Guest24662 aarcane byte dhruvasagar YokoBR_ lordbachus gueriLLaPunK dpugh kermit JediCheese blueyed vayan mrdavid jpentland rymate1234 danielbw Bryanstein sjohnson apb1963 Noskcaj copec sync0pate warreng jprice null_ref aperson Console levifig RagingComput frobware- Guest34900 ben_alman_ Sweet_Ride VA6DAH bctrainers Rallias Guest67070 Weegee Pimmetje edude03_ TakumoKatekari dropdrive Dragnslicer pedrocr Dave2 mic_e_ shuffleb1t pyoor_
[17:43] <Vengasyx> 29 AncientPC miip_ _KaszpiR_ syst3mw0rm_ mbeierl1 donta dilyanbg1 avelldiroll trvz_ mmazing gonyere_ cubbydubby Crackz0s meebeyx_ rikut_ Rylee dmiller_ n00buntu cebor orst3n_ toastcfh_ module000 typ jtlap__ pythonirc101 MvDevNull aboudreault raggg Arduino ldlework lukecarrier Isolol ageis midnightcommand wallzero kdox- nikita Rory silasary ejnahc convict k1ng drubin ikonia Chaser Multiply malinator AlHafoudh tms Stinky_Feet mwally trevorjay mattrae_
[17:43] <Vengasyx> 61 Rynofear `nik`_ airtonix Thor ItSANgo_ _Trullo jdmf stayonthehustle ryan_46 BoomerBile catalase ecdhe buck_ dw1 marlo_ vital wget mlabbe Guest59131 olegb gusnan qarangyhoralaz AJ_Z0 bdavenport o0ubu0o ceed^ daveX7 Moscherkobold Slumlord_ bazhang__ vivus_ignis eurythmia michaelni RickyB98 otto ballock Versudo eSgr graingert Jac0bz1 Sgtmurder boichev ximian MasterOfDisaster ryan_turner|MTW yellowbig sig-wall APLU Plasmastar LaStik j_f-f IotaSpencer
[17:43] <Vengasyx> 35 lastarms cowbacon KavanS mquin kevin-brown gms3 blocky daftykins Seveas ePirat jemari UnHolyTerror deb NDPTAL86 cmastudios InFierno bazhang gi3 labrador ki7mt btiefert adante esuave drswap2 BaW yubrew `echi ry michael_mbp Fatemeh_ rtr- weltzooo richardn ricksebak conomic chadi niluje thumpba BGL oddie fusa24 NthDegree Magiobiwan NeverHere pdrakeweb anders_office gavinguo Armegeden Flazer Casmo [Derek] KingPin K3dare sphenxes02 zhengyi maddawg2
[17:43] <Vengasyx> 73 supergauntlet raub avantgardist muh2000 stux|work quadHelix tnli DalekSec roentgen TheMaverick` gre- Log1x jose cryptexus eagles0513875 jbroome ramona_ lkthomas mfa298 MrShaY_ Fall_ MagicWad1 data` Janhouse cn28h concatenate seanh tomshreds awakecoding _marix Dry_Lips demom Anarchic` WildSoft themill mhenrixon edong23 Guest78586 gac pimperle KindOne Phase quuxman mitz- amacgregor xiphias Spleeze silverf0x blake_r ubuntulog_ DJones necrogami tendo
[17:43] <captainchris> woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
[17:43] <UltimateNate> o.o
[17:43]  * sireebob gives in.
[17:43] <JZTech101> *sigh*
[17:43] <UltimateNate> We need idoru in here
[17:43] <VaticanCameos> what the actual fug
[17:43] <Xethron> What a bot!
[17:43] <JC_SoCal> well that got my attention
[17:43] <Yofun> ....
[17:43] <pl1x> wow what?
[17:43] <Gycklarn> I'm popular!
[17:44] <McLive> :D
[17:44] <Xethron> JC_SoCal: Indeed :P
[17:44] <_KaszpiR_> yawn
[17:44] <iDevelop> ugh
[17:44] <_KaszpiR_> welcome to freenode
[17:44] <drpsih> Доброй ночи, у меня такая проблема поставил ubuntu 14.04 на ноутбук lenovo g580 и у меня виснет комп, когда я запускаю терминал ctrl+alt+fn и выхожу из него то система опять начинает работать что за дела?
[17:44] <edong23> somebody loves me!
[17:44] <captainchris> Gycklarn: yeah you too
[17:44] <UltimateNate> What happened to unopaste
[17:44] <Xethron> I never get mentioned here
[17:44] <jnoob22> Sick em Flannel
[17:44] <imjustmatthew> who writes this kind of junk?
[17:44] <meek_geek> drpsih, hi
[17:44] <bocaneri> Bots and scripts like that are depressingly easy to write.
[17:44] <Xethron> Someone must like me :P
[17:44] <almostworking> enouhg for me,   EJECT button
[17:44] <captainchris> edong23: i love you bitch
[17:44] <Flannel> Guys, just calm down.
[17:44] <UltimateNate> What happened to unopaste
[17:44] <syst3mw0rm_> what was that/
[17:44] <syst3mw0rm_> ?
[17:44] <edong23> lol
[17:44] <captainchris> X)
[17:44] <Xethron> Well, The channel is active again haha
[17:44] <_KaszpiR_> ;)
[17:44] <McLive> now we are all awake
[17:44] <Numline1> weee, party !
[17:44] <Ekushey> Flannel: why a bot isn't here?
[17:44] <Xethron> So, hows the weekend everyone?
[17:44] <Xethron> :P
[17:44] <Beldar> stop commenting folks
[17:44] <imjustmatthew> McLive: yeah
[17:45] <_KaszpiR_> we have been summoned
[17:45] <jnoob22> probably a mac or windows zealot.
[17:45] <Numline1> Weekend's fine, thanks for asking
[17:45] <captainchris> edong23: i would like to imùprove my english with you
[17:45] <McLive> weekend was too short Xethron :D
[17:45] <Flannel> Ekushey: Not sure, probably all the netsplits yesterday.  It's over now though.
[17:45] <captainchris> McLive: yeah sunny week
[17:45] <drpsih> че русских нет?
[17:45] <Xethron> McLive: totally agree!  Language Nutral
[17:47] <edong23> that doesnt... describe me enough
[17:47] <Yofun> #ubuntu-off-topic
[17:47] <phunyguy> can we move the offtopic discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[17:47] <Xethron> :(
[17:48] <edong23> well, sure.. but... there isnt exactly an ontopic discussion
[17:48] <edong23> lol
[17:48] <Hazzard> Lol, someone said my name?
[17:48] <Hazzard> cool
[17:48]  * Xethron was waiting for someone to mention the "Off topic ness"
[17:50] <edong23> wow, this topic is rivetting.
[17:50] <zombu2> wth is with all the pings
[17:51] <phunyguy> zombu2: there are 1614 users here.  That happens.
[17:51] <zombu2> well you gotta say hi to all of em at the same time
[17:51] <zombu2> heh
[17:51] <DeadxBeat> Hey all. So i changed my hostname in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts and now im unable to access my apache server both by domain and by ip
[17:52] <mischief> hello world
[17:52] <DeadxBeat> after reboot
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> DeadxBeat  there's also #ubuntu-server
[17:53] <nuget102> on ubuntu 12.04 how can I install libSDL2? I know I need to add a source but I can't seem to find where that source is?
[17:54] <Beldar> nuget102, If not in the ubuntu repos it is technically not supported here. Give a outline why you need it to start with.
[17:54] <nuget102> So I can run a game.
[17:54] <nuget102> It's supported in 13+ from my understanding, but i'm currently using 12.04.
[17:55] <Beldar> nuget102, YOU might just upgrade to 14.04.
[17:55] <Beldar> if it is there nuget102 and use nicks here.
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> !find libsdl precise
[17:58] <codephobic> is .bashrc removed from Ubuntu 14.04?    I'm using 12.04
[18:05] <nickoe> nuget102: what makes the machine say that?
[18:05] <CookieM> freak of nature or calling for audition
[18:05] <DJ_Unibob> It can be mildly irritating when in a game and the highlight causes it to lose focus.
[18:05] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Xethron programming skills?  :P
[18:07] <nuget102> trism: when I was installing stuff one of them messed up my ubuntu, my task menu and stuff disappeared and nothing could fix it.
[18:07] <bprompt> Xethron:    I've seen much worse elsewhere :)
[18:07] <nuget102> trism: so I have to re-install it, I just can't recall the source.
[18:08] <nuget102> Once I have the source i'll be good, I just can't find it for the life of me.
[18:10] <|PuNKCaT|> Can anyone help me fix a soundcard issue Trusty Tahr
[18:11] <trism> nuget102: not sure what you are asking for by source, libSDL2_mixer-2.0.so.0 is in libsdl2-mixer-2.0-0, do you need the i386 version again? libsdl2-mixer-2.0-0:i386
[18:12] <nuget102> Mhm
[18:12] <Flannel> Alright folks, we've temporarily set the channel to registered people only, this should cut down on the spam.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration for help on registering.
[18:12] <nuget102> But remember, I needed to add a source to the software center because other it wouldn't list libSDL2-mixer
[18:13] <nuget102> I'm running ubuntu 12.04, which is before SDL2 became a default source.
[18:13] <trism> nuget102: oh right 12.04
[18:13] <nuget102> Sorry, I know it's a pain >.<
[18:16] <drpsih> ривет, слушай, я на ноут воткнул ubuntu 14.04 ноут фирма lenova g580 видеокарта geforce 610m я ставил дрова 331. но проблема вот в чем у меня начинает ноут виснуть, самое интересное я слышу что мне приходят сообщения в контакте, а я ничего с делать не могу, ни мышка ни клава
[18:16] <drpsih> не работает, только могу зайти в терминал ctrl+alt+f1 а потом выхожу и все опять начинает работать, но сам понимаешь временно...
[18:17] <dioioib> !ubuntu-ru
[18:20] <phunyguy> !ru | drpsih
[18:23] <dioioib> thats the command. woot phunyguy
[18:24] <phunyguy> mm?
[18:24] <phunyguy> oh
[18:24] <phunyguy> :)
[18:24] <Shardvexz> that guy who was spamming names
[18:24] <Shardvexz> he did it in #archlinux too
[18:24] <Shardvexz> he's hitting up all the major linux channels
[18:25] <bprompt> Shardvexz:    floods wise that's not unusual
[18:25] <Korkel> hi
[18:26] <bprompt> allo
[18:26] <|PuNKCaT|> hello? PLease, can anyone help me? I need to figure out how to get my system to see my sound card again after updating from 12.4 to Trusty Tahr
[18:26] <captainchris> bprompt: hi
[18:26] <captainchris> can you help me please
[18:26] <captainchris> i would like to improve my english
[18:27] <bprompt> hmm
[18:27] <captainchris> and you are a good person
[18:27] <captainchris> do you want to speak with me please
[18:27] <bprompt> captainchris:     not sure this is the channel for it
[18:27] <phunyguy> captainchris: this really isn't the channel
[18:27] <captainchris> not important
[18:28] <captainchris> help me please
[18:28] <phunyguy> help you what?
[18:28] <captainchris> and i make you love  XD
[18:28]  * bprompt smells something phony
[18:28] <sepero> phuny
[18:28] <bprompt> not surprisingly, that nick is likely linked to the guy with the flood script
[18:32] <profall> Help!
[18:32] <phunyguy> profall: would help to know what you need help with
[18:33] <Seveas> phunyguy: don't ask too much of them :)
[18:33]  * bprompt sniffs some more
[18:33] <phunyguy> mm.
[18:33] <phunyguy> hello Seveas :)
[18:33] <Seveas> ohai
[18:33] <Geo> i cloned a drive using rsync- I edited fstab to mount the correct UUID, updated fdisk to show it as bootable. However, when I boot the machine, it still mounts the original disk as / . What did I miss?
[18:33] <profall> So.... I use my friends wifi so I cant wire it up on the install
[18:33] <Geo> (removed the boot flag from the original disk as well)
[18:33] <Seveas> Geo: you'll need to update the initramfs
[18:34] <profall> And I have no idea how to install these wifi drivers
[18:34] <Geo> Seveas: do you know that command off the top of your head?
[18:34] <holstein> !wifi
[18:34] <holstein> !broadcom | profall
[18:34] <Seveas> because in there is the /etc/initramfs used to locate / - because / isn't mounted yet :)
[18:34] <Seveas> Geo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) should do the trick
[18:34] <holstein> profall: are the broadcom ones the one you are asking about? there are directions there for if you dont have access
[18:35] <holstein> profall: connecting to a wired network is the "easy way"..
[18:35] <profall> I have a d-link  dwa-171
[18:35] <holstein> profall: you will read the linnk above, and learn what chipset you have..
[18:35] <Geo> update-initramfs wont do the trick, Seveas?
[18:36] <profall> Also I am reinstalling right now
[18:36] <profall> Should I use lvm with ubuntu.
[18:36] <holstein> profall: if you want the functionality that lvm provides, you'll use it
[18:36] <holstein> !lvm
[18:37] <profall> Ok let me look at these docs
[18:37] <profall> Figure out my wifi
[18:37] <Seveas> Geo: I always forget the spelling of that, so I use the dpkg-reconfigure one :-)
[18:37] <Geo> heh, ok
[18:38] <phunyguy> !away > hamiltont|away
[18:39] <hamiltont|away> aplogies, still figuring out my ZNC setup. I'll look into it
[18:39] <profall> Well d-link has drivers for linux but not very specific
[18:39] <profall> http://www.dlink.com/uk/en/home-solutions/connect/adapters/dwa-171-wireless-ac-dual-band-usb-adapter
[18:41] <Beldar> profall, Amazon has a lot of linux compliant usb wifi that are very cheap some less that 10$, I would want a plug and play myself.
[18:42] <profall> Yea but my wifi router is 5ghz and I need this to connect well
[18:43] <lukemorrison> profall: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2168426
[18:44] <profall> Ok
[18:44] <Geo> Seveas, that didnt work :/
[18:44] <profall> How do I install driver
[18:44] <Geo> what else should I try?
[18:44] <profall> I see it in lsusb
[18:44] <Geo> fstab lists the drive properly, but mtab reverts to the old drive
[18:45] <Geo> do I need to edit mtab, then run dpkg-reconfigure?
[18:45] <Geo> or perhaps some update to grub?
[18:45] <holstein> profall: you need to refer to the docs and see what chipset you have.. what chipset do you have?
[18:46] <holstein> profall: if you want to install whatever dlink is providing, if they provide a driver, you'll read the docs there, and make sure that you are complying with requirements
[18:46] <profall> Ok
[18:46] <holstein> profall: connecting "well", may be a matter of compromise.. if you are not promised linux support, and trying to do something that the creator has not intended
[18:47] <Geo> update-grub, mayne?
[18:47] <Geo> *maybe
[18:48] <holstein> profall: i find, typically things "just work" when plugging them in... though, in some cases, when they do not, i personally refer to the document i suggested.. then, i see if there is a driver in the repositories that supports my hardware, that for legal reason, cannot be included in the kernel
[18:48] <Beldar> Geo, Do you have the original HD and the new one on the computer?
[18:49] <Geo> yes
[18:49] <Geo> it is loading the old drive as / right now, I'd like to instead mount the new drive to /
[18:49] <starbuck> hi, i get this error message from cron, could somebody tell me where the problem leis? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7722757/
[18:50] <rsw> is it possible to upgrade an ubuntu desktop version using update-manager-core?
[18:50] <Beldar> Geo, Check the UUID's of the partitions with blkid grub is not really able to separate this, however you can change the new to a /dev/sdXX in the new HD's fstab for now to get everything confrimed running
[18:50] <Beldar> Geo, Sounds like identical UUID's is all.
[18:51] <Seveas> Geo: mtab is one of those files you should not rsync over (like /run, /sys, /proc, /dev/, /tmp and /var/tmp)
[18:51] <Geo> Beldar: no, different UUIDs
[18:51] <Geo> I've updated fstab to mount the new UUID
[18:51] <Geo> but I'm pretty sure I need to tell grub where to boot from
[18:52] <Beldar> Geo, I would pull the original HD out to fix this, and make sure it's mbr is the boot
[18:52] <Seveas> Geo: and are you updating the initramfs after booting using the new harddrive (edit the grub menu to force it)
[18:52] <Geo> Seveas: editing grub i think is the missing step- what do I need to edit there?
[18:53] <braindrop> hi
[18:53] <Beldar> Geo, Is the first choice in grub going to the old HD?
[18:54] <braindrop> does anyone know what the events counter in mdadm means? I've been googling and found no answer. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1423890
[18:54] <braindrop> in mdadm --detail /dev/md0 my events counter is climbing rapidly, currently reading "Events : 526822"
[18:54] <Geo> Beldar, there is no grub choice screen
[18:54] <Geo> and I'm remote at the current moment
[18:54] <Geo> so what I'm asking is how to update grub
[18:55] <Geo> I just found grub.cfg
[18:55] <Geo> and I see the old UUID in there
[18:55] <Beldar> Geo, not there
[18:55] <Geo> I'm thinking changing that should do the trick?
[18:55] <Geo> ok, where should I look?
[18:55] <Beldar> Geo, Why are you remote?
[18:56] <Geo> ...
[18:56] <Geo> because I am?
[18:56] <Geo> the box is far far away?
[18:56] <Geo> heh
[18:56] <Beldar> Geo, This is an easy fix if at the computer is all.
[18:56] <Geo> ?
[18:56] <Geo> ok, well, I'm not :)
[18:57] <Geo> so updating grub.cfg wont fix this then?
[18:58] <dioioib> why did we need to lock now the chanel?
[18:58] <Beldar> dioioib, spam
[18:58] <dioioib> dman
[18:58] <dioioib> that sucks.
[18:59] <Beldar> dioioib, Do have a support issue?
[18:59] <dioioib> not at all I am here to help people if they need it
[18:59] <Beldar> cool
[19:01] <Beldar> Geo, For info really. https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[19:02] <Geo> i'm reading through several links now... I'm really just hoping someone can tell me how to update grub to boot from a different partition
[19:02] <Geo> Not sure why I can't edit grub.cfg
[19:02] <Beldar> Geo, I would manually boot to the new HD and do this from the desktop.
[19:03] <Geo> if I could boot to the other hd, i wouldn't be asking here... It only boots to the old drive
[19:03] <Beldar> Geo, The methods your using is just a long way around is all.
[19:03] <Beldar> Geo, YOU can manually boot it.
[19:05] <Laogeodritt> Sigh, yay mass highlights? =|
[19:06] <Geo> Beldar: how?
[19:06] <phunyguy> Laogeodritt: a while back.  It's over for now.
[19:06] <Laogeodritt> I've been subject to way too many of those lately (in different channels)...
[19:07] <Beldar> Geo, Bro, if your only option is to have help your probably not going to get this done, this is a situation you can figure out, and will be proud you did, I have given you some key info, do some research, and I gave you the grub manual.
[19:08] <Geo> fantastic.
[19:08] <Beldar> Geo, some will hold your hand, I wont.
[19:09] <Geo> i *know* I have to boot to the othe drive, my question is that i cant, how do I do it. Telling me the answer is to boot to the other drie doesn't help
[19:09] <profall> Man idk what to do with this wireless shit
[19:09] <phunyguy> language pleaser
[19:09] <phunyguy> -r
[19:09] <Beldar> profall, keep the language clean please.
[19:10] <holstein> phunyguy: you are not promised linux support from dlink, which makes it challenging.. what chipset do you have?
[19:10] <holstein> phunyguy: sory.. profall ^
[19:10] <phunyguy> :P
[19:10] <profall> Dwa-171
[19:10] <profall> See it has linux drivers
[19:10] <profall> There documentation is so vague
[19:11] <holstein> !wifi
[19:11] <profall> Like "theres the install.sh thats it"
[19:11] <holstein> profall: in a terminal, you can run "lspci" and share that via pastebin...
[19:11] <holstein> !Paste
[19:11] <adamcunnington> By default, does cp copy or move (i.e. delete where it's copying from)?
[19:11] <profall> I am on my tablet on ir
[19:11] <profall> Irc
[19:11] <adamcunnington> Secondly, I'm using -R to copy recursively but the recursive folders don't exist at dest, how can I force them to be created?
[19:12] <profall> Ill send a photomlol
[19:12] <profall> Photo***
[19:12] <profall> Its usb
[19:12] <profall> No pcie
[19:13] <profall> Lsusb pulls it up
[19:13] <holstein> profall: then, share what chipset you have, friend
[19:13] <profall> D-link dwa-171
[19:13] <profall> Usb
[19:13] <holstein> profall: no.. thats the model #
[19:13] <holstein> profall: what i want, is the chipset ... from lspci or lsusb, please
[19:14] <adamcunnington> hello?
[19:14] <OerHeks> adamcunnington, cp does not move.
[19:14] <profall> Bus 002 Device 006: 2001:3314 D-Link Corp.
[19:14] <OerHeks> adamcunnington, -Rf should force that, never noticed that -R would not create destinationfolders
[19:14] <profall> Thats lsusb
[19:15] <holstein> profall: do you see the device in "ifconfig" ?
[19:15] <adamcunnington> OerHeks: thanks
[19:16] <profall> Nope
[19:17] <holstein> profall: this is quite recent.. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2168426.html
[19:17] <profall> Well i know but like...
[19:18] <profall> How do I install kt
[19:18] <profall> There just like "yea these work"
[19:18] <holstein> profall: i would ask the creators of the drivers.. or, follow the post in the link above
[19:19] <holstein> profall: the one from chili555
[19:19] <adamcunnington> OerHeks: ah the error is "cannot create directory as read-only file system. It's a USB stick
[19:26] <Geo> How can I update grub to boot from a new, different partition?
[19:26] <holstein> Geo: you can install it over there.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:27] <Bashing-om> Geo: (??) You have more than one 'buntu operating system installed ?
[19:27] <Geo> Bashing-om: yes
[19:29] <Geo> holstein: need to do this via command line, i dont have phys access to the machine at this point in time
[19:29] <Bashing-om> Geo: The last system installed has control of the booting process. What you can do is boot the system you want as the primary, and from the primary OS (RE-)install grub to be that boot controller. ( only 1 may be that controlling boot authority).
[19:30] <Geo> Does updating grub.cfg really not work?
[19:30] <Geo> Bashing-om: so thats part of the problem, is I cant get this partition to boot
[19:30] <Geo> doing this via ssh, and I have no way of choosing
[19:30] <dward> anyone know a good resource to add a Windows 8 partition to grub?
[19:31] <dward> is it pretty easy?
[19:31] <Beldar> dward, This a OEM W8?
[19:32] <dward> ya but it's been activated. I bought this computer with 8 on it, installed ubuntu and left a partition with 8 on it.
[19:33] <Beldar> dward, Can you run sudo parted -l and pastebin it
[19:33] <Bashing-om> Geo: It could be as simple as booting to that primary and issueing terminal command -> sudo grub-install /dev/sdX <- where sdX would be the hard drive where the OS is installed to ( sda, sdb or say sdc).
[19:33] <gartral> i think the Disks Utility is bugged... http://i.imgur.com/mLRpmgD.png this disk is NOT ok
[19:34] <dward> @Beldar http://pastebin.com/rW5HfzHa
[19:34] <dward> kind of a mess, i know...
[19:36] <robotdevil> what is all that shit?
[19:36] <robotdevil> sorry stuff
[19:36] <Beldar> !bootinfo | dward run this and post it
[19:36] <Beldar> !language | robotdevil
[19:37] <meek_geek> !Beldar
[19:38] <Beldar> meek_geek, Harrasing the channel and users will not help you here
[19:38] <meek_geek> I am not harassing when did i do so ?
[19:38] <meek_geek> I was just trying to see what it did
[19:38] <meek_geek> !testdisk
[19:39] <Beldar> Act like adults and no swearing
[19:39] <dward> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7722970/ here's the result of bootinfo
[19:39] <dward> thanks for the help
[19:40] <profall>  YEAAAA wifi nets avaialble !!!! Thank you guys
[19:40] <meek_geek> Beldar, ok sorry
[19:41] <Bashing-om> Geo: Well, IF grub.cfg is good, then it is possible to boot any OS on any partition from a grub > prompt.
[19:41] <profall> How do I run updates for gui ubunutu
[19:42] <profall> Just apt-get update or
[19:42] <bekks> profall: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:42] <profall> Ty
[19:43] <dward> sdb5 has my windows8 partition on it.
[19:43] <Beldar> dward, That is really messed up, a efi windows install on a gpt HD and a msdos on sda and a standard not efi ubuntu install. Is there any chance you can just reinstall all this in a msdos configure?
[19:44] <dward> ya... i kind of thought that would be the case. I knew it was pretty bad. Thanks for looking though, Beldar.
[19:45] <profall> Dist-upgrade is hanging
[19:45] <profall> There it goes
[19:45] <Beldar> dward, If you do this you want to wipe the sdb including the mbr correctly got does at times leave remnants is all.
[19:45] <Beldar> gpt*
[19:46] <dward> okay
[19:47] <Beldar> dward, You can have all gpt as well, just needs the right installs and partition tables
[19:49] <Bashing-om> Geo: If you want to try booting up from grub; pastebinit -> sudo fdisk -lu , sudo parted -l < - to see what there is to work with.
[19:49] <Geo> Bashing-om: thanks... did that, but got grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.
[19:49] <Geo> but its ext3
[19:49] <Beldar> msdos is just much easier at least to me anyway in what seems to probably be a uefi bios, not sure there though I think we have met before, and this is a 2009 computer dward
[19:49] <Geo> is that a 'normal' warning?
[19:49] <Geo> not sure where its getting ext2 from
[19:51] <Bashing-om> Geo: Not positive, but that might be a 'warning' in respect to installing grub onto the partition rather than onto the MBR of the hard drive .
[19:51] <Geo> oh
[19:51] <Geo> duh
[19:51] <Geo> you r smart.
[19:52] <Geo> ok, now I see it in grub.cfg atleast
[19:52] <Geo> so I just need to find where to move it to the default option
[19:53] <Bashing-om> Geo: Booting from grub, did you do something like -> linux (hd0,msdos3)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 ro <- ?? also direct to the initrd.img file .
[19:54] <Geo> no, didnt boot from grub
[19:54] <Geo> I dont think I can do that, I have to ssh in right now
[19:54] <Geo> I just need to find the file that the boot order is set in, and I think I'll be set
[19:55] <Geo> etc/default/grub ...
[19:56] <Geo> I'm guessing change GRUB_DEFAULT=0 to 1
[19:56] <dward> \quit
[19:56] <Bashing-om> Geo: I am afraid if we try and move a boot file, the kernel will be unaware of the move, and will reealy hose things up - if we do not go through the package manager to make the chage ? // Might think about a full CHange ROOT from ssh'n in and see what results. I have never done it, so will be an experiment // But, I can see where it is doable.
[19:57] <cerry> I've got a working mashine and got asked to encrypt the hard drive in case it's getting stolen. I think primary concerns are the ssh-keys and the database tables (running local mysql server). I assume having sensible data in local databases isn't best practice but for the moment encryption would be good enough.
[19:58] <Geo> so, my naivety here, but wouldnt changing etc/default/grub and then update-grub update the .cfg file properly, which is then used by grub after the next reboot?
[19:58] <cerry> So I ponder whether to encrypt the full hdd (actually sdd) or just /home and /var (I've extra petition for those as well as / and /boot/efi)
[19:59] <cerry> The latter option doesn't seem to require a full new installation …
[19:59] <Bashing-om> Geo: If the boot files for both os's are in place, I would think that chankging the default boot in that /etc/grub file to the entry ( as seen in /boot/grub.cfg ) would work to change the default boot order.
[19:59] <Geo> Bashing-om: well, I did what I just said... we'll see how bad it breaks :) maybe I'll owe you a beer
[20:00] <Bashing-om> chnaging*
[20:00] <Geo> oh, before I reboot- any thoughts on how i can make sure I picked the correct index value?
[20:01] <Geo> oh, cool - you can use the quoted text value instead of a number
[20:01] <Bashing-om> Geo: Ain't nothing we can not undo working with /etc/grub ///just have to keep in mind the numbering of the os' starting at 0 for that first index.
[20:02] <Geo> yep... using the string instead of index now
[20:02] <Geo> lots of things to break! :)
[20:02] <Bashing-om> Geo: Been awhile.. lemme go look and see that 'header00' is not what we want to look at.
[20:04] <Geo> here we go
[20:04] <Geo> the default= in grub.cfg was updated to reflect my target partition, so thts good
[20:05] <Geo> oh, haha
[20:05] <Geo> grub-set-default
[20:05] <Geo> handy little command that would have been helpful to know of a few mins ago
[20:06] <Geo> now we wait for the reboot.
[20:07] <brasileiro> guys, I'm having performance problems on my Ubuntu using XFCE4... when I try to watch a movie (with VLC or MPlayer) or even listen to some MP3 (Rhytmbox) it lags out from time to time.... the weird is that I use an Intel i7 with 6gb DDR3 ( http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-17r-se-7720/pd )... I'm thinking maybe there's some kernel mod problems? any ideas?
[20:08] <texla> Is there a way to add themes to 14.04 without using PPA's
[20:08] <Avihay__> brasileiro: first suspect should be pulse imho
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> !themes | texla
[20:09] <brasileiro> Avihay__, ok, and what can I do about it?
[20:09] <Avihay__> try running vlc from a terminal, it spews out plenty of error messeges to get a hint to what's wrong
[20:10] <Avihay__> also, see if restarting pulse helps
[20:10] <Avihay__> pulseaudio --kill && pulseaudio --start
[20:11] <Geo> newp.
[20:13] <brasileiro> Avihay__, thanks! can I pastebin the vlc output for you to take a look?
[20:13] <Geo> just wish i could count the index numbers easily somehow, from grub.cfg
[20:13] <Bashing-om> Geo: As in no ! .. does not boot the OS you desire ?
[20:13] <Avihay__> sure, though, you'd need to paste the output from when a skip occors
[20:14] <Avihay__> occurres*
[20:15] <brasileiro> Avihay__, http://pastebin.com/bZUzjiMM
[20:15] <Bashing-om> Geo: Idid look, and not found as I was looking for... the numbering starts at 'zero' and I do think that also applies to grub.cfg // are we still together after the netsplit ?//
[20:16] <Geo> yeah, I'm here
[20:16] <Geo> i know to start at 0
[20:16] <Geo> I counted the non-indented 'menuentry' commands
[20:16] <Geo> i think thats what I'm looking for
[20:16] <Bashing-om> Geo: Look for the UUIDs .. each os will have a different UUID.
[20:17] <Geo> theres lots of entires with the same one, for different flavors of it (settings)
[20:17] <Geo> anway
[20:17] <Geo> lets see how this does
[20:18] <Sunstream> wow
[20:18] <Sunstream> pingouts
[20:18] <brasileiro> Avihay__, and I'm using VLC 2.1.4
[20:21] <Avihay__> brasileiro: well, the log does suggest it's a sound issye, tough not only. I found this after some searching: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/01/msg00067.html
[20:24] <brasileiro> Avihay__, I see... the problem is that it also happens using mplayer or even rhythmbox
[20:24] <Sunstream> is there a way I can have a emulated desktop of Windows using WINE?
[20:25] <Avihay> Sunstream: yes. run wineconfig, and look around
[20:25] <Avihay> tough you'll need somth like explorer.exe if you want taskbar startmenu and stuff
[20:26] <Avihay> brasileiro: which suggests it's a sound or video issue that is in the driver/hardware layers, rather then somth with a specific player
[20:27] <enedil> sudo -i
[20:27] <enedil> password
[20:27] <enedil> oh, wrong window
[20:29] <brasileiro> Avihay, do you have any tips where I can start looking into that?
[20:30] <Avihay> brasileiro: google? I don't really know
[20:31] <Sunstream> wow
[20:31] <Crackz0s> Hello
[20:31] <Crackz0s> Guys i would like to know what is the best way to set a outgoing mail server, secure and easy
[20:31] <brasileiro> Avihay, ok, thanks very much =)
[20:31] <rww> ubottu: mailserver
[20:32] <Crackz0s> Good Thank you very much
[20:32] <gr33n7007h> Can someone tell me what's the latest version of Ruby in the repos on 14.04?
[20:33] <rww> !info ruby trusty | gr33n7007h
[20:34] <gr33n7007h> rww, thnx
[20:36] <Bashing-om> Geo: -> grep -e "menuentry " -e "submenu" /boot/grub/grub.cfg | sed 's/^[ \t]*//' | cut -d "'" -f1,2 | nl --starting-line-number=0 <- tested, works; To see the entry number and menu contents.
[20:39] <akurilin> quick questino: what does ubuntu use nowadays for its startup scripts? Just init.d and rcx? I'm reading a text and it says that starting iwth Feisty it was using /etc/event.d , but there's nothing alike on my Trusty
[20:40] <rww> upstart
[20:40] <Bashing-om> Geo: Also; sudo grub-set-default 2 <- Before that will work, the top line in the /etc/default/grub file that looks like 'GRUB_DEFAULT=0' needs to be changed to 'GRUB_DEFAULT=saved'.
[20:53] <unstable> My clock doesn't show on 14.04 anymore, any idea why? When I go to time and date, then clock... everything is faded out.
[20:55] <loucal> I'm playing around with gtk themes and I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on how this works and if I'm making the right assumptions.  I normally use gnome-settings-daemon under fluxbox and my hypothesis is that uses gtk-3.0.  I mostly am happy with these settings, but when gnome-settings-daemon crashes I see what I think are gtk-2.0 theme settings which I mostly do not like except the file, edit etc toolbar which is dark instead
[20:55] <loucal> light (fits everything better for most apps) so I have been trying to figure out which is which and where I can edit it.
[20:56] <jester-> loucal: tray sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[20:57] <loucal> jester-:  I think maybe you were answering unstable
[21:02] <eam> hi all, where can I find the srpm equivalent for ubuntu packages?
[21:02] <eam> I need to dig up the build environment
[21:03] <OerHeks> !source
[21:03] <catalase> once before, someone suggested that i setup a cronjob to restart my server so that in case i mess up my SSH access, i will still be able to access the server again after a set amount of time
[21:03] <catalase> is there a better way of doing this?
[21:04] <eam> OerHeks: great, thanks.
[21:11] <iDevelop> Hi
[21:12] <iDevelop> Have those idiots stopped spamming us here?
[21:12] <iDevelop> The people spamming names earlier
[21:12] <rww> clearly
[21:12] <Keanu73> aww gtg to bed for school tomorrow
[21:12] <Keanu73> byee :3
[21:15] <profall> Hey
[21:16] <profall> So I have no clue where to start to get drivers for my sound card
[21:17] <profall> 03:00.0 Audio device: Creative Labs Device 0012 (rev 01)
[21:20] <TJ-> profall: Creative don't support the Linux kernel well, last time I checked, there was little to absolutely no support for many of their devices
[21:21] <profall> ok
[21:22] <veebull> So... changed distros back to Ubuntu yesterday (from Min17), kept /home untouched, and having a little trouble with my bash login.
[21:22] <balooo> Hi guys, i'm having serious problems and was hoping someone could help me login to my machine.  I keep getting redirected back to the login page.  I have tried to google it but none of the suggestions have worked for me, and I'm not sure how to debug it further.  I have tried .Xauthority, / .ICEauthoriy / logging in with gnome-fallback-session / fixing .profile and .bashrc.   I can currently login through the guest user, or my main user only
[21:22] <balooo> through the terminal.  I am on ubuntu 12.05
[21:22] <profall> ok well I guess ill use my mobo soundcard
[21:22] <veebull> keeps griping about not finding a particular program/script (that isn't currently installed).
[21:23] <veebull> I went and removed the lines from .bashrc, sourced it and still get the same complaint.  Rebooted the machine... still complains that it can't find the program.
[21:23] <veebull> No idea where its getting a call to find it in the first place?!?
[21:26] <profall> I have Realtek ALC892 soundcard in my mobo, it works but it's not "loud".
[21:26] <ki7mt> veebull, what program/script is it *not* finding that it complains about?
[21:26] <profall> Guess I need drivers since Ubuntu just says "generic sound card" or whatever
[21:26] <profall> Any guidances?
[21:27] <veebull> ki7mt: virtualenvwrapper.sh
[21:28] <ki7mt> veebull, that's python env tools yes?
[21:28] <veebull> yes.
[21:28] <veebull> bash: /usr/share/virtualenvwrapper/virtualenvwrapper_lazy.sh: No such file or directory
[21:29] <ki7mt> veebull, doesn't that also install a dot folder in /home ?
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/virtualenvwrapper/3.4
[21:29] <veebull> I'd had lines at the end of .bashrc to source the appropriate file, but hadn't installed virtualenvwrapper yet.
[21:29] <veebull> installed it using pip, then bash started complaining it couldn't find the 'lazy' version
[21:30] <veebull> tried fixing that per the virtualenvwrapper docs, and that didn't help anything.
[21:30] <ki7mt> veebull, that's what I would do, install it, then remove it properly on the Ubuntu build Mint is ok, but there's allot of things that are goofy with the desktop.
[21:30] <veebull> so I just removed the offending lines from .bashrc entirely.... and it *still* complains that it can't find the file.
[21:31] <veebull> how would I replace the .bashrc I have with a clean 'system default' one so I know I have a pure 'buntu version?
[21:31] <Like2HlpU-Laptop> yes may i help u
[21:31] <Foxhoundz> how do I connect to a wireless network via terminal?
[21:31] <Foxhoundz> I'm ssh'ing to my linux box that had its wifi cut out
[21:32] <ki7mt> veebull, If your sure you want that .. I think /etc/skel/.bashrc .. I'll go look for sure
[21:32] <veebull> ki7mt: was just looking at that.
[21:32] <veebull> looks pretty much like what I have.
[21:33] <ki7mt> veebull, Yeah, it's there, /etc/skel/.bashrc is use when creating new accounts.
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> Foxhoundz  man iwconfig
[21:33] <ki7mt> veebull, But Im not sure that's going to fix the problem, something still looking for virtualenv
[21:33] <profall> what browser do you guys use?
[21:34] <Foxhoundz> MonkeyDust: is iwconfig still limited to WEP encrypted nodes?
[21:34] <Foxhoundz> profall: Chrome, of course.
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> Foxhoundz  not sure, don't use wireless
[21:35] <veebull> Aaaarrrrgghhh.
[21:35] <profall> yea. I am using chrome as well.
[21:35] <veebull> This is getting really old really fast.
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> veebull: what is?
[21:36] <veebull> Desktop locked up *again*
[21:36] <ki7mt> veebull, also check that bash completion has it removed also: /etc/bash_completion.d/virtualenvwrapper
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> veebull: which release are you using?
[21:36] <veebull> mouse just freezes, nothing responds, but I can switch to a virtual terminal via Ctrl+Alt+F1
[21:36] <veebull> ActionParsnip: 14.04LTS
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> veebull: is it the same in all DEs?
[21:37] <veebull> only using unity
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> veebull: is it a USB mouse?
[21:37] <veebull> switched back from Mint yesterday... already starting to regret that
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> veebull: unity isnt a DE, you are using Gnome DE.
[21:38] <veebull> ActionParsnip: touchpad initially.  USB mouse doesn't change anything
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> veebull: install xfce4. Log off then log into the XFCE session, is it ok there?
[21:38] <usr13> veebull: What's to regret?
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> veebull: is the system a laptop?
[21:38] <veebull> Dude, I wouldn't know for anywhere from 15 minutes to 5 hours... its completely random so far as I can tell
[21:38] <veebull> yes
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> veebull: what make and modeln
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> veebull: do you have the latest bios?
[21:39] <usr13> veebull: So you get no repsonse from mouse or keyboard in these lockups?
[21:39] <profall> alright, well all my drivers are installed. Now for some customization haha
[21:39] <veebull> Lenovo ThinkPad T530, been running Ubuntu pretty much flawlessly since November '12
[21:39] <ki7mt> veebull, for you python env issue, try this to locate reference to it: sudo grep -lir "virtualenvwrapper" /etc/  then remove the virtualenvwrapper references.
[21:40] <usr13> veebull: And you can not get to a console, and you can not ssh in from another PC?
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> veebull: try another DE, sudo apt-get install xfce4 ,then logoff and log in to XFCE to test
[21:40] <veebull> don't really have another machine to ssh in from, unless I want to setup a Raspberry Pi just for that.
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> veebull: not got a smartphone?
[21:41] <veebull> As I said, I can get to a console via CtrlAltF1, and log in, etc.
[21:41] <usr13> veebull: Try ActionParsnip's suggestion,  (xfce).
[21:41] <Geo> Bashing-om: thanks
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> veebull: android has many ssh clients...
[21:41] <veebull> ActionParsnip: sounds... painful... to try to do anything useful via keyboard on my Samsug galaxy S4
[21:41] <usr13> ActionParsnip: Never mind, he says he can get a Console, so...
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> veebull: if XFCE is ok then its either Gnome being an ass, or (more likely imho, compiz)
[21:42] <Foxhoundz> I get the following issue when trying to upgrade ubuntu via terminal
[21:42] <Foxhoundz> 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1360:8c01::18)]
[21:42] <Foxhoundz> it looks like it's using IPv6 to connect
[21:42] <k1l> are the 11.04 sources already put down and one need to put in the old-releases for an upgrade?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> veebull: i do it all the time. I'm typing to you now on an Galaxy Tab 2 7"
[21:42] <Foxhoundz> it just stays at 0% indefinitely
[21:42] <veebull> since I've never had a happy experience installing xfce via anything other than Xubuntu...
[21:42] <veebull> ActionParsnip: wee bit bigger there... not much... but enough ;)
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> veebull: sudo apt-get install lxde ,then
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> veebull: just something that doesn't use Compiz
[21:43] <veebull> ActionParsnip: more a matter of how much do I need to pull in... just sudo apt-get install xfce?
[21:43] <owen1> lost my wired internet. where do i start troubleshooting this?
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> veebull: you need to explore the issue to see what the problem is.
[21:43] <usr13> k1l: 11.04's EOL was  October 28, 2012
[21:44] <veebull> What about just turning *off* compiz?
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> veebull: xfce4
[21:44] <owen1> ping not responding but i see inet addr in 'ifconfig'
[21:44] <owen1> under both eth0 and wlan0
[21:44] <k1l> usr13: i know. i am just helping another user to make the upgrades and wondering if we need to put the old-releases into sources.list first
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> veebull: you could install openbox and press ALT+F2 and run: openbox --replace
[21:44] <owen1> (it's new ubuntu install. was fine in the first 2 days)
[21:45] <profall> is there a better package manager or is the stock one pretty good?
[21:45] <usr13> owen1: Could be a hardware issue.  Try another NIC.
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> owen1: sudo lshw -C network ,will show the aethernet chip
[21:46] <Bashing-om> Geo: I did little, are you able to boot the OS as desired now > What is your solution ?
[21:46] <remuxa> after installing jwm from the universe repo i notice that background images don't load
[21:46] <veebull> ki7mt: how do I delete the reference to virtualenvwrapper?  I can find them, but can't seem to remove them.
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> profall: the default has worked for years......
[21:46] <profall> ok
[21:46] <owen1> usr13: what does it mean to try another NIC
[21:46] <remuxa> i've scrutinized the available documentation thoroughly, but nothing comes up that could help
[21:47] <usr13> owen1: Network Interface Card
[21:47] <owen1> replace the phisical card?
[21:47] <veebull> ki7mt: nevermind, missed the '.d' at the end of /etc/bash_completion.d/virtualenvwrapper
[21:47] <usr13> owen1: Yes
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> Owen1: what Ethernet chip are you using?
[21:48] <owen1> ActionParsnip: 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection
[21:48] <jmalone> Is there an easy way to get the Oracle JDK installed in Ubuntu 14.04?
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> owen1: if you run: sudo rfkill unblock all ,does it help?
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> jmalone: webupd8 has a PPA for Oracle Java
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> jmalone: works great plus it autoupdates which is great :-)
[21:49] <veebull> ActionParsnip: so once I get xfce4 installed how long do you suggest I run it to determine if its a compiz problem, and then what do I do about it?
[21:49] <owen1> ActionParsnip: nope
[21:49] <jmalone> What I'm looking for. Thanks!
[21:49] <Beldar> jmalone, with a ppa yes. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/02/install-oracle-java-6-7-or-8-ubuntu-14-04/
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> veebull: as long as you've seen it lock up
[21:49] <usr13> veebull: Just see if the lock-ups quit happening.
[21:50] <veebull> I *thought* they'd quit happening this morning
[21:50] <usr13> veebull: Fully updated, right?
[21:50] <diegows> hi
[21:50] <veebull> usr13: yeup
[21:50] <usr13> veebull: ok.
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> veebull: try it a few days then. You may want to test RAM using Memtest86 from Grub
[21:50] <diegows> are there some documentation about the meaning of the numbers in an expert partman recipe? (preseed)
[21:51] <OerHeks> owen1, 82579LM happens to be an e1000e NIC, known issues with this chip
[21:51] <shimano> Guys... Does ZFS support online device add/remove (like btrfs)?
[21:51] <veebull> ActionParsnip: something that popped to mind... probably a little late to the party... but this machine *does* have an nVidia chipset
[21:53] <veebull> Initial install setup the Xorg driver, then I selected the nVidia binary/proprietary one after install.  A few hours later after the first lockup, I went back to the original Xorg driver, just in case.
[21:53] <owen1> OerHeks: thanks. did u google for that or u just know?
[21:53] <veebull> didn't seem to make any difference.
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> veebull: nvidia is fine
[21:53] <OerHeks> owen1, google told me 82579lm is that famous intel one.
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> veebull: if you run: sudo lshw -C display ,do you see an Intel GPU too?
[21:54] <veebull> yes
[21:54] <owen1> OerHeks: ok. thanks!
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> veebull: did you install nvidia prime, or bumblebee?
[21:54] <veebull> no
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> veebull: you have an optimus setup
[21:55] <veebull> so...?
[21:57] <Geo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7723519/  <-- why does the root line have a different UUID from the options lines? Shouldn't these be the same?
[21:57] <Geo> sorry - frm grub.cfg
[21:58] <Geo> the last UUID is the 'old' hard drive, I want it to boot from the new, but even when it picks the correct entry in grub, it still boots the old
[21:58] <TJ-> Geo: "f725df57" will be the partition/file-system that hosts "/boot/", "f730cc70" will be the file-system containing the root file-system
[21:58] <happyfr0gg> could someone help me figure out how to make the backgrounds to my four workspaces different?
[21:59] <Geo> ah... and if they're supposed to be the same?
[21:59] <happyfr0gg> I know my desktop manager is xfdesktop but don't know where it is for me to make changes to the backgrounds of my workspaces.
[21:59] <TJ-> Geo: That depends on if you've installed "/boot/" to a separate partition or not
[21:59] <Geo> I've been editing etc/default/grub and then running grub-update, what step am I missing?
[21:59] <TJ-> Geo: From what you've said, it sounds as if "f730cc70" is the 'old'
[21:59] <Geo> no, boot and / should be on the 'f725'
[22:00] <TJ-> Geo: "update-grub" should update the UUID of the file-system based on what is in "/etc/fstab"
[22:00] <Geo> hrm
[22:01] <Geo> so snce in running off of the old hd... i should mount the new, chroot, then run it?
[22:01] <Geo> or am I going down the wrong path
[22:01] <TJ-> Geo: that, or manually edit "/boot/grub/grub.cfg" to fix it, reboot, then run "update-grub" from the 'new'
[22:02] <TJ-> Geo: of course, ensure you edit the "/boot/grub/grub.cfg" on the 'new' drive, if you've installed the bootloader to it
[22:03] <Geo> ya
[22:03] <Geo> I think thats where im' going wrong
[22:03] <jackarg> Hi there, I managed to setup primus a while ago, and it works fine. I've just got a really major issue: whenever I use my nvidia card to play a game, my computer randomly shuts off. I prop it up pretty high in case it's overheating, but it still does it, and I'm not sure what to do. It makes it impossible to use the card
[22:03] <jackarg> I'm on 14.04
[22:10] <jmalone> Beldar Thanks! It was exactly what I needed.
[22:11] <jackarg> anyone?
[22:12] <Beldar> jmalone, cool, enjoy
[22:18] <brasileiro> hi everyone.... I'm just installed bumblebee at my 14.04 machine but now the speakers are mute... I can hear everything using headphones... even at the pavucontrol the sound bar only moves when I select the Headphones, when on Speakers it keeps still... could anybody help me?
[22:25] <usr13> brasileiro: Take a look at alsamixer
[22:26] <brasileiro> usr13, specifically at what?
[22:27] <usr13> brasileiro: At everything.
[22:28] <brasileiro> usr13, everything seems fine to me... Master and Speakers are ate 100%
[22:28] <mikeg3> ccccccbjlehhehhkeegrujudjhlrjjvvcuhldinurunc
[22:29] <usr13> brasileiro: play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[22:30] <brasileiro> usr13, can hear everything using headphones and nothing on the speakers.... even on the hp the sound isn't located properly (left right)
[22:32] <OerHeks> mikeg3, carefull with your yubikey
[22:33] <gadabout> i got a boot cd with software anyone know how to preform the operations on the disc to compile the programs
[22:33] <BoomerBile> of all things unholy
[22:34] <BoomerBile> who would spam someone named BoomerBile
[22:34] <BoomerBile> here i thought it was something important
[22:34] <OerHeks> gadabout, is this an ubuntu boot cd?
[22:35] <domsson> Any idea what would cause frequent and often heavy flickering of elements on the screen when scrolling, switching tabs and lots of other "interaction" (but NOT present for playing videos)?
[22:36] <gadabout> yeah i believe so
[22:36] <happyfr0gg> How do I change the workspace backgrounds in XFCE?
[22:36] <happyfr0gg> I would like each to be different
[22:37] <Geo> TJ-, that was what I needed, thanks
[22:39] <gadabout> yeah
[22:40] <gadabout> it was an unbuntu cd i got two and one i did all the steps for the software and suspended it and I forgot all about it
[22:41] <adamcunnington> I'm going to dual boot windows 8.1 and ubuntu 14.04. I'm going to create a /root partition for ubuntu OS, a swap partition that is 1.5x my ram and a data partition that will be /home. Windows will then be on it's own partition. Does this all sound ok?
[22:42] <k1l> adamcunnington: windows likes to sit in the first partitions so install that first
[22:42] <adamcunnington> k1l: yea i will, then i'll shrink it to install the other 3
[22:42] <k1l> yep
[22:42] <adamcunnington> k1l: although can i just load live usb first and just use the partition tool to create all 4 partitions? Then quit, install windows, then install ubuntu?
[22:42] <k1l> yep
[22:43] <adamcunnington> k1l: awesome. In terms of my partitions, does that seem ok?
[22:43] <tonyt> is there any way to set ubuntu to be able to place shortcuts onto the desktop?
[22:43] <adamcunnington> tonyt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[22:43] <tonyt> and not into the unity thing on the left of the screen
[22:43] <tonyt> k
[22:43] <gadabout> are the exe files the only files you get or was i doing it right and compiling the software into packages
[22:44] <k1l> adamcunnington: /root, swap and /home is a classic setup. works on most installs
[22:44] <tonyt> thats exactly what i didnt want
[22:44] <TJ-> adamcunnington: That'll be an UEFI system won't it, so you'll need to use a GPT disk layout, and make the first partition the EFI ESP, FAT16/32, ~256MB
[22:44] <tonyt> i dont want to put stuff on the left. no way to  put stuff on the desktop then?
[22:44] <adamcunnington> k1l: what format would they all be?
[22:44] <ki7mt> happyfr0gg,  I think there is a plug-in for that, but it's been a while, something like: workspace switcher or similar.
[22:44] <k1l> adamcunnington: / and /home ext4, swap is swap
[22:44] <TJ-> adamcunnington: And if it is GPT you can use up to 128 partitions by default so there's no crush :)
[22:45] <mekhami> hey, i'm using virtualbox to create an ubuntu virtual machine. with the iso, should i mount this with something like daemon tools or what shoul di do with it? probably dumb question be easy on me
[22:45] <happyfr0gg> ki7mt - thanks, I'll look into it.
[22:45] <adamcunnington> TJ-: what do you mean? That i'll basically need 2 partitions for windows? 1 for system / data and the other for this 256mb thing?
[22:45] <k1l> /needs to be something from 10GB to 20GB on a regular desktop setup. most data will be stored on /home
[22:45] <adamcunnington> k1l: thanks. The windows will be NTFS? Will i be able to access data from it if i mount it within ubuntu? Personal files etc.
[22:46] <TJ-> adamcunnington: Windows will want 2 or 3 partitions I seem to recall seeing
[22:46] <adamcunnington> k1l: what is /? root?
[22:46] <adamcunnington> k1l: the system? Yea i was thinking 20gb
[22:46] <k1l> adamcunnington: yes, you can use the ntfs partitions in ubuntu. just make sure to disable the "fast startup" thing in windows so it gets shutdown correctly
[22:46] <k1l> yes, / is the "root" partition mountpoint
[22:47] <adamcunnington> TJ-: cool, if i use the ubuntu usb to create a single windows partition first off (alongside 3 ubuntu partitions), will windows re-partition it's partition, i.e. divide it into 3? If so that's fine
[22:47] <adamcunnington> k1l: great thanks. I've not done this in ages - when i use the partition tool, can i tell it that i want everything within /home to be a partition automatically?
[22:47] <gadabout> i got a comp with xp and i wanted to set it up with unbuntu and make the software files anyone can help
[22:47] <k1l> adamcunnington: what windows will partitionate will depend on the installation routines it will run (like the backup/restore things frm the manufacturer etc)
[22:48] <TJ-> adamcunnington: For Windows, just reserve space for it
[22:48] <k1l> adamcunnington: if the partitions are set up already you just tell the installer to use the partitions as /, swap  and /home
[22:48] <owen1> i have an bluetooth earphone already paired. how to connect it via the terminal? 'unity-control-center bluetooth' opens the bluetooth setting page but i would like a terminal command if possible. maybe something with 'gsettings'?
[22:48] <adamcunnington> TJ-: yea i was planning on making 1 windows partition and 3 ubuntu first up before installing any os's
[22:49] <adamcunnington> k1l: oh great, it gives me options during installation to choose where the main os, swap and /home go?
[22:49] <k1l> if you choose manual partitioning, yes
[22:49] <eeee> isn't it better to install ubuntu later? windows is going to eat up grub
[22:50] <eeee> then you'd have to run a live cd and reinstall grub
[22:50] <adamcunnington> eeee: yea that was covered off a while back, i never suggested i'd install ubuntu first
[22:50] <eeee> oh ok
[22:50] <adamcunnington> eeee: merely run the ubuntu usb for the purpose of accessing the handy partition tool but after that quitting and installing 8.1 first
[22:53] <histo> eeee: you install windows first then ubuntu
[22:54] <histo> !dualboot | eeee
[22:54] <eeee> histo: exactly my point..
[22:54] <rww> adamcunnington: just tell Windows setup to wipe the disk and then set up its own partitions with whatever total Windows size you want...
[22:55] <rww> then run through that, then boot Ubuntu and tell it to do the rest of the partitioning
[22:55] <rww> no need to pre-do partitions :\
[22:55] <eeee> adamcunnington: if you're installing windows 8 it has a partitioning tool during the installation.. just install it
[22:55] <eeee> yeah i dont see the need to use ubuntu first
[22:55] <adamcunnington> fair enough, i don't trust windows partition tool is all :P
[22:56] <gadabout> i have a boot cd with software on it and i want to install it on my windows xp comp
[22:58] <fridaynext> how do i search for a file thoughout the entire operating system?  looking for myserver.conf
[22:58] <eeee> fridaynext: sudo find / -name myserver.conf
[22:59] <fridaynext> thanks eeee
[22:59] <eeee> sure
[22:59] <fridaynext> eeee: easier than I thought it'd be - and quick!
[22:59] <ki7mt> fridaynext, also see: man locate
[22:59] <eeee> yeah it's pretty quick
[23:00] <histo> adamcunnington: you can always fix what it does later with linux
[23:01] <histo> fridaynext: find / -name myserver.conf 2>/dev/null
[23:01] <adamcunnington> what is difference between /boot and /root?
[23:01] <histo> fridaynext: it's probably in /etc
[23:01] <histo> adamcunnington: /root is root's home  /boot is where all your boot stuff goes
[23:01] <wafflejock__> histo++
[23:02] <fridaynext> histo: yeah, I thought I set it up (doing automysqlbackup) but it turns out 'find' couldn't find it, so i must not have set it up yet.
[23:02] <adamcunnington> histo: ok thanks but what *is* root?
[23:02] <k1l> adamcunnington: dont mix / with /root
[23:02] <wafflejock__> adamcunnington: root is the super admin user
[23:02] <adamcunnington> k1l: confused, what are they?
[23:02] <histo> fridaynext: it's myserver.cnf
[23:02] <wafflejock__> adamcunnington: / is referred to as the root of the filesystem
[23:02] <Fall> :D
[23:02] <OerHeks> no such folder /root, http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/09/linux-file-system-structure/
[23:02] <wafflejock__> adamcunnington: it means it's just the base of a tree of directories
[23:03] <k1l> adamcunnington: / is like drive c. everything goes there except you tell something to be placed somewhere else, like /home onto another partition
[23:03] <histo> fridaynext: look in /etc/mysql/
[23:03] <adamcunnington> right ok, so when we're talking partitions, we're talking swap, /home (settings and documents etc.), /boot and / ? not /root?
[23:03] <histo> adamcunnington: yes if you want multiple partitoins
[23:03] <histo> !partition | adamcunnington
[23:04] <histo> adamcunnington: most users can just get away with / and /swap    I just / and use a swapfile
[23:04] <fridaynext> histo: not in there, but I do have /etc/automysqlbackup/automysqlbackup.conf in it, so i'll just set the settings there.
[23:04] <wafflejock__> same here
[23:04] <wafflejock__> would be nice to separate home though for migration purposes
[23:04] <k1l> adamcunnington: no /boot needed in most cases. that is included into the / partition
[23:04] <histo> fridaynext: what settings are you looking for?
[23:04] <adamcunnington> histo: what's the purpose of separating /boot?
[23:05] <adamcunnington> k1l: ok, what is the benefit of separating /boot?
[23:05] <histo> adamcunnington: that way your system can still boot in some fashion if other stuff is damaged
[23:05] <wafflejock__> adamcunnington: I suppose isolation if you want to back up partitions separately
[23:05] <k1l> adamcunnington: there are setups where you need a own /boot partitions, but then you know about that
[23:05] <k1l> adamcunnington: some encryption setups need that and other special setups for servers etc
[23:05] <fridaynext> histo: just trying to set up the automysqlbackup to backup multiple users' db's into different owncloud folders. I'm guessing it'll be more complicated than a normal automysqlbackup setup.
[23:05] <adamcunnington> ok guess i won't bother with it
[23:05] <TJ-> adamcunnington: with encryption, being able to get to the boot-loader and keep the other file-systems secure
[23:05] <histo> adamcunnington: e.g. you could still get busybox running but other utils and tools are in /
[23:06] <histo> fridaynext: no idea what automysqlbackup is  but I'm assuming it's configuratoin would be in a file somewhere in /etc/automysqlbackup  you can try asking in #ubuntu-server or man automysqlbackup
[23:06] <histo> adamcunnington: and the other reasons people ahve stated
[23:07] <wafflejock__> fridaynext: locate automysqlbackup or dpkg -L automysqlbackup may help too
[23:07] <fridaynext> wafflejock__: yeah, I already found the conf file - now i just need to set it up.
[23:07] <fridaynext> Thanks for your help, everyone.
[23:07] <eeee> fridaynext: /etc/default/automysqlbackup
[23:07] <histo> adamcunnington: What are you going to use this system for?
[23:07] <adamcunnington> ok thanks guys
[23:08] <adamcunnington> 1 final thing - i'm going to be doing all this on a SSD, does that change anything?
[23:08] <fridaynext> eeee: it's in /etc/automysqlbackup/automysqlbackup.conf
[23:08] <eeee> fridaynext: oh ok
[23:08] <adamcunnington> other than swap is damaging and I may want to omit it and let my kernel kill apps in the virtually-unforseeable instance where 16gb of ram won't be enough
[23:08] <histo> adamcunnington: I would edit your /etc/fstab after installing and add the noatime option to any partitions on the ssd
[23:09] <histo> adamcunnington: and change your swappiness setting
[23:09] <adamcunnington> histo: just -noatime? what does that do?
[23:09] <adamcunnington> histo: what do you think of my comment of having no swap
[23:10] <histo> adamcunnington: doesn't update the access times for files on that file system.
[23:10] <k1l> adamcunnington: you could think about no using swap at all if you got enough ram and dont want to suspend to dis
[23:10] <k1l> k
[23:10] <eeee> you can't sleep or hibernate i think with no swap
[23:10] <k1l> standby works but no hibernation
[23:10] <histo> adamcunnington: You could create a swap file or partition just change teh swappiness setting so it doesn't get used unless it absolutely has to.
[23:11] <adamcunnington> eeee: i know hibernation doesn't work but do i really want to be adding to the degradation of the disk with swapping? ssd space is £££
[23:11] <adamcunnington> histo: yea but in those instances i'd probably prefer the kernel just killed apps to free space. this is a home PC
[23:11] <histo> adamcunnington: the kernel doesn't it will just lock
[23:12] <ki7mt> adamcunnington, You better off creating one, then chenge the swapiness level to like 10 or something v.s. 60
[23:12] <john_rambo> vlc 2.1.4/Manjaro .... I installed the Remember position plugin and its seems to be installed http://imagebin.ca/v/1RdjdROHjb3z.....but vlc still doesnt remember last position
[23:12] <histo> or 0
[23:12] <john_rambo> Anyone using this plugin ?
[23:12] <adamcunnington> ki7mt: ok, how do i edit the setting? is that the only setting? like a 'tolerance score'?
[23:12] <histo> adamcunnington: yeah
[23:12] <adamcunnington> how do?
[23:12] <ki7mt> adamcunnington, Swap Info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[23:13] <adamcunnington> ty
[23:13] <ki7mt> adamcunnington, See What is swapiness section of the link.
[23:13] <histo> adamcunnington: sudo nano /etc/sysctl.conf and change add vm-swappiness=0
[23:13] <histo> or 1
[23:14] <adamcunnington> ki7mt: histo thanks
[23:14] <histo> adamcunnington: higher values increase the use of swap lower values decrease.
[23:14] <adamcunnington> i'm intruiged as to how the kernel knows what a 0 swap vs a 10swapiness implies
[23:15] <histo> adamcunnington: man proc
[23:15] <adamcunnington> is it like, i need 5% more memory but swap is too low, so i'll just lock for now. Oh wait, i need 20 more%, ill use swap
[23:15] <ki7mt> yeah, what he said ^^
[23:16] <wrongplace> how do I mount an iso file to be used with wine?
[23:16] <histo> adamcunnington: it doesn't work that way
[23:16] <adamcunnington> is it a bad idea to put a swap partition on an external HDD?
[23:17] <adamcunnington> (that is always connected) I use it like an internal HDD tbh
[23:17] <histo> adamcunnington: Don't do that. If you adjust swappiness it won't be used unless something goes seriously wrong.
[23:17] <histo> adamcunnington: just leave it out or make a swapfile if you don't want anothe rpartition for some reason.
[23:17] <wrongplace> can i "sudo mount" an iso copy?
[23:17] <wrongplace> and then run the app via wine?
[23:18] <ki7mt> wrongplace, see post #5: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=619250
[23:18] <histo> adamcunnington: http://rudd-o.com/linux-and-free-software/tales-from-responsivenessland-why-linux-feels-slow-and-how-to-fix-that  here's a good read
[23:18] <histo> wrongplace: yes you can mount -o loop /path/to/someiso /where/you/want/it
[23:18] <histo> !appdb | wrongplace
[23:19] <adamcunnington> histo: thanks
[23:21] <fridaynext> is this the right way to call a function within cron with a specified conf file? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=wFB0pD46
[23:21] <ki7mt> adamcunnington, there's two sides to this, if you have plenty of RAM and your swaping to the HD, something else is an issue, on the other hand, allot of apps/functions expect swap to be present, omitting it creates an unknown / potential future issue. It doesn't hurt anything if it's not swapping, but it's its needed and not there, will be an issue.
[23:22] <fridaynext> specifically, the quotes around the conf location
[23:22] <histo> fridaynext: is there a way to call the command specifying the conf file
[23:22] <histo> fridaynext: then do the same thing in cron " and all
[23:22] <adamcunnington> ki7mt: thanks
[23:22] <fridaynext> 'sudo automysqlbackup /home/onyour6/onyour6_DB_backup.conf' does it
[23:22] <adamcunnington> cheers for your help everyonen
[23:22] <fridaynext> so no quotes then
[23:22] <ki7mt> adamcunnington, So for me, I lways create a swap, if' not needed, that's ok, if it is needed, I try to understand why, and fix that to whatever extent possible.
[23:23] <adamcunnington> final thing! With my dual boot plans, is there any easy way to ensure i can only access certain files from windows within ubuntu? i.e. i don't want to be accidentally deleting windows system files. I would create separate data partition within windows but not all windows application installation processes allow you to choose install location
[23:24] <histo> !swap | ki7mt
[23:25] <eeee> fridaynext: i dont think you can use sudo in the cron
[23:25] <histo> adamcunnington: you could just mount your windows user directory somewhere and not the whole drive.
[23:25] <eeee> i mean u'll have to manually enter the password
[23:25] <histo> eeee: fridaynext yeah sorry don't use sudo in cron.  just sudo crontab -e   to edit root's crontab
[23:26] <fridaynext> histo: yeah, that's what I ended up doing.
[23:26] <adamcunnington> histo: genius idea, thanks. Out of interest is there a way to do that by specifying a relative path with a UID?
[23:26] <adamcunnington> UUID*
[23:26] <fridaynext> I'll check tomorrow to see if it ran or not.
[23:26] <ki7mt> histo, I understand swap, i get it.
[23:27] <histo> adamcunnington: it's a bit trickier than that.  Basically the drive can be mounted then a bind mount of a directory accessible by your user.
[23:27] <adamcunnington> i.e. UUID=123123123123/user/Adam/ /media/windows8.1user/ ntfs 0 0
[23:27] <ki7mt> histo, But if something is swaping constantly, that's a performance issue.
[23:27] <histo> adamcunnington: let me find you a howto
[23:27] <histo> ki7mt: yes
[23:27] <adamcunnington> histo: great much appreciated
[23:29] <histo> adamcunnington: ahh the mount wiki page has examples. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount search for "bind" on that page
[23:29] <hyprvx> yo, are you still giving support?
[23:30] <histo> !who?
[23:30] <histo> !who | hyprvx
[23:30] <owen1> anyone with thinkpad carbon x1 2014? i would like to know if there are any issues with 14.04 before buying one.
[23:30] <owen1> i can't find anything insightful online.
[23:31] <adamcunnington> histo: oh awesome, so if I understand, I can just do sudo mount --bind /path/to/windows8.1/user/dir /home/ac/Windows Files
[23:31] <Beldar> owen1, Run the hardware.
[23:31] <hyprvx> sorry, got redirected to #ubuntu-unregged so thought this channel wasn't giving support, just wanted to ask, histo
[23:31] <histo> adamcunnington: yes assuming the windows partition is mounted elsewhere
[23:31] <hyprvx> anyways, I installed Xubuntu 14.04 and now I'm having Wi-Fi issues
[23:31] <owen1> Beldar: you tried with 14.04 and it sucks?
[23:32] <histo> hyprvx: what type of "issues"?
[23:32] <Beldar> owen1, Never had one and that's not the channel is for.
[23:32] <adamcunnington> histo: oh so i'd have to mount the whole partition? doesn't that defeat the point of stopping me accessing essential system files etc. guess i could mount it somewhere obscure
[23:32] <Beldar> what*
[23:32] <hyprvx> histo: it claims to have connected to my wireless network but I have no internet access... similar to the "Limited" connection in Windows
[23:32] <histo> adamcunnington: no mount it somehwere that user doesn't ahve access then create a bind mount that does in the user's home
[23:32] <owen1> Beldar: oh. i didn't understand what 'Run the hardware' means. is there a different irc chat for hardware?
[23:32] <Beldar> owen1, For fixing hardware yes.
[23:33] <adamcunnington> histo: where wouldn't the user have access to? (I'm not familiar off hand with user perms)
[23:33] <owen1> Beldar: sweet. what's the channel?
[23:33] <adamcunnington> i have access to /media/ right
[23:33] <Beldar> owen1, Look at the hardware on the computer and look on the web for problems.
[23:33] <owen1> Beldar: oh. ok
[23:34] <Beldar> owen1, askubuntu is a good site
[23:34] <owen1> cool. will try that
[23:34] <owen1> or post a question of ubuntforums.org
[23:35] <owen1> wow, uskubuntu looks cool. it's like stackoverflow
[23:35] <owen1> with no registration
[23:35] <Beldar> owen1, yeah the forums is good, but all answers are subjective and prone to any users experience, I would touch neither myself. ;)
[23:35] <Beldar> same here
[23:35] <adamcunnington> histo: a final final thing would be ... is there an easy way to give access to ubuntu files in windows?
[23:36] <catalase> how critical is it to use RSA key authentication
[23:37] <catalase> and does anyone here run cron jobs to restart their server on a daily basis? sometimes i lose ssh access, and i think it might be useful to run a cron job for restarting at least the SSH server daily
[23:39] <ki7mt> catalase, I use keys almost exclusively if that's any help. Restarting only if it's *not*  running may be useful, like:run cron script then if $? = 1 then kill it and restart it, but should probably find out why it's not running and fix that.
[23:43] <owen1> Beldar: that looks promising - www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201204-10913/  i am not sure if 2nd Gen is the recent one
[23:44] <Beldar> owen1, If that is the computer yes. In general any computer a year or older in release is probably not a problem, dual graphic setups have their own issues however.
[23:45] <Beldar> depends on your skills really
[23:45] <owen1> www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201204-10913/components/ is not matching shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x1-carbon/
[23:46] <eam> I've been debugging a project which had trouble building on ubuntu. I've found the problem: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ToolchainTransition
[23:46] <owen1> i got to find what generation are the current thinkpads
[23:46] <eam> the --as-needed modification to the linker is breaking things
[23:46] <eam> now, the doc says "don't just add --no-as-needed", but as best I can tell after reading through all the ubuntu source, that's all anyone ever does
[23:47] <Beldar> owen1, I would use this pages hardware info for issues. http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x1-carbon/#techspecs
[23:47] <eam> and frankly, I don't see how this linking scheme could even work without  --no-as-needed
[23:47] <owen1> Beldar: good idea!
[23:47] <eam> anyone have any context? As this stands it looks like extremely broken advice/behavior on ubuntu's part
[23:48] <Beldar> eam, From a natty link? what release is this?
[23:48] <eam> 14.04 LTS
[23:48] <eam> this was changed some time ago
[23:48] <Beldar> eam, From a natty link? Is this your complaint?
[23:49] <eam> Beldar: sorry, what are you asking?
[23:49] <Beldar> eam> I've been debugging a project which had trouble building on ubuntu. I've found the problem: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ToolchainTransition    Natty in the links header
[23:49] <eam> right