[08:35] <dooglus> Dirge: you need to enable the non-free repositories if you want to install non-free software.
[08:35] <nickrud> Dirge, then read !components & !universe following:
[08:35] <nickrud> !components
[08:35] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[08:35] <Geoffrey2> lesse, Sun is in Universe or Multiverse?
[08:35] <nickrud> !universe
[08:35] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[08:36] <Bot_Builde1> oh christ
[08:36] <dooglus> Dirge: ubuntu is a free OS by default.  if you want to install filth like Java, you need to explicitly set it up to do so
[08:36] <Jimmy89> and yone here know how to use network-manager well please PM ME!!
[08:36] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, multiverse
[08:36] <Bot_Builde1> its taken me about 10 minutes to find the OO bug report
[08:36] <dooglus> Sun is in Multiverse
[08:36] <Bot_Builde1> and you need to register
[08:36] <Jimmy89> how do you configure it to store a key into key#2 as opposed to key#1?
[08:36] <Iinuxerist> Good Night
[08:36] <concept10> why does ubuntu disable updates in firefox?
[08:36] <Dirge> I have an appication that is Java based.
[08:37] <polpak> Dirge: so install java
[08:37] <Snowfairy> Hhhhhh, on that system I'd probably stick to xubuntu.
[08:37] <Dirge> yeah, Firefox on Linux can't even do Shockwave or Flash automatically.
[08:37] <polpak> Dirge: it's not really a big deal
[08:37] <nickrud> concept10, because you must have root privileges to alter system files.
[08:37] <neutrinomass> concept10: You have to run firefox as sudo ...
[08:37] <Snowfairy> Dirge, again because they are not free software.
[08:37] <Dirge> How do you run Firefox as Sudo?
[08:37] <Geoffrey2> Dirge, Shockwave is not presently supported on Linux, at all
[08:37] <Snoops> you know Dirge firefox on windows can't even do shockwave of flash automatically either :)
[08:37] <nickrud> Dirge, don't. Learn linux, don't expect it to be windows.
[08:37] <Snoops> still needs to be installed seperately
[08:37] <Dirge> But if you click Install Plugin, it installs.
[08:38] <concept10> nickrud, I have firefox installed locally and I dont have to do that
[08:38] <kane77> hi... anyone can help me install alien arena??? I downloaded this .run file but I don't know what to do... and there are no instructions
[08:38] <Bot_Builde1> Why can't I save to my USB drive?
[08:38] <neutrinomass> Dirge: It can. Try Linspire for example ... Firefox comes with all those. But that means that you can't get it for free, and that part of the money you shell out goes to macromedia ...
[08:38] <loxety> anyone able to get Steam.exe working ok?  Trying to follow along with the linux-gamers.net half-life 2 install howto
[08:38] <concept10> I thought they disabled Firefox updates because of gnome integration or something else
[08:38] <Bot_Builde1> I save the file, and it says its there in nautilus
[08:38] <nickrud> concept10, I give advice based on a standard install, if you did a firefox as a local install ..
[08:38] <Bot_Builde1> i unplug the usb, replug, its gone
[08:39] <concept10> nickrud, I installed not as root.  I just unpacked the folder in ~/
[08:39] <Bot_Builde1> dont tell me i need sudo privleges
[08:39] <Dirge> How do I hide the join/part messages here?
[08:39] <nickrud> concept10, precisely.
[08:39] <varun> how to install ppp
[08:39] <Bot_Builde1> thats just great - someone should build a sudo checkbox into the filesaver
[08:39] <varun> ppp?
[08:39] <nickrud> varun, ppp is installed by default, you probably want to run sudo pppconfig
[08:40] <loxety> I've gotten to the part in the howto where you do 'wine SteamInstall.exe'
[08:40] <kholerabbi> Is there a way to block users from accessing Firefox preferences and extensions - or ask for a password?
[08:40] <varun> in fedora 5 I am not able to run pppconfig
[08:40] <nickrud> varun, pppconfig is an ubuntu config tool
[08:40] <loxety> steam installs and I get to what looks like the part where you login but there is no text
[08:40] <udo> does anyone have mutella?
[08:41] <varun> then how to do on fedora 5
[08:41] <nickrud> varun, no clue, ask on #fedora ?
[08:41] <varun> I am write now on edubuntu
[08:41] <polpak> kholerabbi: don't let them log in as you?
[08:41] <udo> does anyone have mutella? i have a problem to make install
[08:41] <Bot_Builde1> actually, when i put the usb drive back in, the file i saved before is 0 bytes
[08:41] <nickrud> varun, then sudo pppconfig
[08:41] <kane77> hi... anyone can help me install alien arena??? I downloaded this .run file but I don't know what to do... and there are no instructions
[08:42] <Toge> do you know a compensatory program for nero vision?
[08:42] <varun> I wanted it for my friends fedora 5
[08:42] <watchie> How do you set your printer settings in Xubuntu? I used to be able to select my printer (an Epson) easily in Ubuntu, but I can't find that same application in Xubuntu... does anybody know how?
[08:42] <loxety> hello
[08:42] <Snoops> Dirge may want to look through http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[08:42] <neutrinomass> Bot_Builde1: you should unmount it properly. right click on it on the desktop and click eject device....
[08:42] <Bot_Builde1> ah
[08:42] <nickrud> varun, send them to #fedora, we don't do fedora here :)
[08:42] <Bot_Builde1> well, windows always managed it
[08:42] <Flannel> !ubuntuguide
[08:42] <ubotu> [ubuntuguide]  a bad outdated resource. Please use help.ubuntu.com
[08:42] <Dirge> E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin Still
[08:43] <neutrinomass> Bot_Builde1: It's not written synchronously because of limited flash write operations.
[08:43] <varun> is anybody familiar with fedora
[08:43] <Snoops> ah thanks Flannel..
[08:43] <Bot_Builde1> that's smart
[08:43] <Bot_Builde1> but sucks for my habits :P
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> varun: Probably not in an Ubuntu channel...
[08:43] <polpak> Dirge: then you need to enable multiverse
[08:43] <Flannel> Snoops: or wiki.ubuntu.com ;)
[08:43] <Bot_Builde1> especailly when its near midnight and I'm careless
[08:43] <neutrinomass> Bot_Builde1: Sort of, you still get "remove device safely".... I have opened up a spec on this, but nobody has warmed up to it , http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncMount
[08:43] <Anubix> can anyone please help me set the max number of private tabs that can open in xchat?
[08:43] <drumline> varun: very little..  general linux is what you'll get here when you're on Fedora
[08:43] <Hoxzer> is xubuntu meant for older computers?
[08:43] <B1zz> not really
[08:43] <nickrud> un-java5-bin:
[08:43] <nickrud>   Installed: 1.5.0-06-1
[08:43] <nickrud>   Candidate: 1.5.0-06-1
[08:43] <nickrud>   Version table:
[08:43] <nickrud>  *** 1.5.0-06-1 0
[08:43] <nickrud>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages
[08:43] <Hoxzer> like would it work on 10 year old PC?
[08:44] <drumline> Hoxzer: or minimalist preferences
[08:44] <B1zz> im running it on a 64bit 3500+amd
[08:44] <nickrud> Dirge, fix your sources
[08:44] <Flannel> Hoxzer: not necessarily.  But yeah, it'll work with fewer resources
[08:44] <drumline> Hoxzer: RAM and Video?
[08:44] <varun> drumline: how to configure ppp on fedora
[08:44] <jUggERNAUt1980> anybody know anything about wifi radar?
[08:44] <Hoxzer> Drumline: :D I dont know actually
[08:44] <drumline> Hoxzer: step 1 :)
[08:44] <Hoxzer> I guess ram is somewhere around 64 or 128
[08:44] <udo> how can i setup my sound card to work i have a the chipset via82xx
[08:44] <polpak> varun: ask in #fedora
[08:44] <Hoxzer> but I will check when I get home
[08:44] <neutrinomass> Bot_Builde1: Well, limited writes are not such  problem after all. They can do at LEATS 2 * 10^5 writes from what I read, with the number being closer to 10^6. But fat partitions are so awful that it would probably break sooner or later.
[08:44] <varun> ok
[08:44] <Dirge> What did you type?
[08:44] <drumline> varun: ppp should be part of your networking config..  they will know in #fedora
[08:45] <Arbiter> Hoxzer, xubuntu is a normal ubuntu with a different package set
[08:45] <Bot_Builde1> neutrinomass: very cool
[08:45] <nickrud> Dirge, apt-cache policy sun-java5-bin
[08:45] <neutrinomass> Hoxzer: P100-style computers? Possibly yes.... a little slower, but likely to be usable
[08:45] <Arbiter> (xfce instead of gnome)
[08:45] <Bot_Builde1> I hope that stuff gets in
[08:45] <Arbiter> xfce is smaller, faster and lighter than gnome
[08:45] <Anubix> WIFI RADAR: http://master.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/wifi-radar_1.9.4-0ubuntu6.dsc
[08:45] <Dirge> W: Unable to locate package sun-java5-bin
[08:45] <Arbiter> but has less features too
[08:45] <neutrinomass> Bot_Builde1: Quite unlikely for Edgy. What has been approved AFAIK is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnmountNotifications :)
[08:45] <Anubix> wifi radar http://wifi-radar.systemimager.org/
[08:45] <polpak> Dirge: you don't have multiverse enabled
[08:45] <B1zz> but is ver felxiable
[08:46] <B1zz> very*
[08:46] <drumline> Hoxzer: it'll probably only be good for a router or a simple legacy server
[08:46] <polpak> Dirge: or you aren't using dapper
[08:46] <tripppy> !ubuto diskmounter
[08:46] <ubotu> tripppy: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:46] <Flannel> !tell Dirge about java
[08:46] <neutrinomass> Bot_Builde1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoUnmountNotifications , wrong link previously
[08:46] <dooglus> Hoxzer: there are minimum xubuntu requirements listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XubuntuDapperReleaseNotes#head-0ca89a2e16807e844ced26dd988f5ef7541d9b15
[08:46] <nickrud> Dirge, fix your sources. Basically, replace everything in /etc/apt/sources.list with the contents of http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[08:46] <Snowfairy> geeze... I'm up at 2am playing with my dapper install :/
[08:46] <B1zz> heheh that means your hooked!
[08:46] <dooglus> "To run the Desktop CD at lest 128 megabytes of RAM are required. To use the installed system at least 64 megabytes of RAM is required but 128 is recommended. At least 1.4 gigabytes of disk space is required."
[08:47] <drumline> Snow_Shelter: get yo ayass ta bed!
[08:47] <drumline> Snowfairy:
[08:47] <drumline> ^
[08:47] <nickrud> dooglus, and, if you double every number there, it makes a bit of sense :)
[08:47] <tripppy> dooglus: how do i run diskmounter.sh ?
[08:47] <Bot_Builde1> neutrinomass: Actually, I liked the first one better - if you remove it without unmounting it warns you
[08:47] <Snowfairy> Hehe, I should.  Just.... tonight's the first night I haven't found something to set my slow-arse dialup connection to download.
[08:47] <Flannel> nickrud: beleive thats for Xubuntu, not ubuntu.
[08:47] <Hoxzer> dooglus: I want to run linux smoothly so ... :)
[08:48] <Hoxzer> minimum would not be enough
[08:48] <Snowfairy> So...  I've been desperately looking so as not to waste precious connection time :P
[08:48] <Snowfairy> or something silly like that :P
[08:48] <Flannel> Hoxzer, dooglus, and you can use the alternative CD to install on systems with less RAM
[08:48] <neutrinomass> Bot_Builde1: My spec was about removing the need to unmount altogether. Spec's spec is about notifying (mine was the first, Spec's is the AutoUnmountNotification)
[08:48] <Dirge> Odd, the howto doesn't match my Ubuntu version.
[08:48] <nickrud> Flannel, I've run xfce, that's what I'm talking about
[08:48] <Flannel> nickrud: sounds good
[08:48] <polpak> Dirge: what version are you using?
[08:48] <Dirge> 6.06
[08:48] <steveO_> anyone here use Tripwire?
[08:48] <Dirge> But there's no Settings button
[08:48] <B1zz> when i try to run prefrence setting on firefox i get the following windows that pops up and gives me the following message:  http://pastebin.com/705977
[08:48] <Bot_Builde1> neutrinomass: ah
[08:48] <neutrinomass> Bot_Builde1: I would push the spec if I could get numbers as to the reliability of flash devices, but no such information exists ( that can be truly trusted, that is )
[08:49] <dooglus> tripppy: I never heard of it, but its name suggests it's a shell script.  so "chmod +x diskmounter.sh" and "sh diskmounter.sh"
[08:49] <Geoffrey2> for the Synaptic Package Manager? no, it doesn't match with 6.06
[08:49] <Snowfairy> I think I've moved away from system configs, now just to make everything look pretty (ala silly windows noob finding desktop wallpapers and icons!)
[08:49] <polpak> !java
[08:49] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[08:49] <Bot_Builde1> I dunno, I understand both sides
[08:49] <Bot_Builde1> but at least warn
[08:49] <Bot_Builde1> perhaps sync
[08:49] <Bot_Builde1> anyway off to bed
[08:49] <Dirge> I'm pretty sure I have Multiverse and everything installed, but I went over the howto just in case and it doesn't even look the same.
[08:49] <neutrinomass> Bot_Builde1: goodnight :)
[08:49] <StaindTX> can someone help? I am new to linux. Is Ubuntu good for beginners or should I try a differant one?
[08:49] <nickrud> Flannel, I run low end machines a lot, and that's just enough for real usage, not theoretical
[08:50] <kane77> StaindTX, yes ubuntu's good for beginners...
[08:50] <Snowfairy> StaindTX, Ubuntu is probably the first linux distribution I'd recommend for beginners.
[08:50] <polpak> Dirge: you should have a settings menu option in synaptic
[08:50] <Frogzoo> StaindTX: it's pretty good for beginners, yes - can't recommend a better distro to learn on to be honest
[08:50] <neutrinomass> StaindTX: It's probably the best distro for beginners :)
[08:50] <Dirge> if you're new to Linux buy a version, the free ones require you to fight them tooth and bone just to run normally.
[08:50] <Snowfairy> Second might be Knoppix or such.  Ubuntu is very useful due to it beinga  LiveCD.  you don't have to commit to installing it to test.
[08:50] <xxozxx> how do i get jgrasp applets working?? im used to the way they work in windows? anyone?
[08:50] <neutrinomass> Snowfairy: linspire ?
[08:50] <Dirge> yes, but not in the repository.
[08:50] <asdx> damn I need compiz
[08:51] <Snowfairy> neutrinomass, why on earth would one run that? :P
[08:51] <polpak> !xgl
[08:51] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:51] <nickrud> neutrinomass, linspire has the best media check page I've seen :)
[08:51] <Dirge> In Synaptic, choose the Repositories item in the Settings menu
[08:51] <Dirge> A list of repositories is shown. Click the Settings button at the bottom and tick Show disabled software sources. Then click the Close button.
[08:51] <Dirge> After I click Repositories, there's no more Settings button.
[08:51] <StaindTX> already installed it...messed it up like three times and had to reinstall.. LOL... to dang use to windows.
[08:52] <polpak> Dirge: try edit
[08:52] <xxozxx> anyone know anything about running applets in ubuntu?
[08:52] <Flannel> xxozxx: you mean like gdesklet applets? or what?
[08:52] <polpak> Dirge: or don't even bother with synaptic
[08:52] <Frogzoo> Dirge: click on '6.06 LTS' & "edit" - you'll see universe/multiverse checkboxes - then click "reload"
[08:52] <xxozxx> Flannel, whats gdesklet?
[08:52] <nickrud> StaindTX, yeah, it's a learning cure alright. Worth climing, imho :)
[08:52] <Flannel> Dirge: you're enabling them? you don't need to go to settings, they're already visible
[08:52] <polpak> Dirge: just replace your sources.list with the one nickrud gave you 10 mins ago
[08:52] <xxozxx> Flannel, i was talking about java
[08:53] <udo> Package xine-ui has no installation candidate what is this mean?
[08:53] <StaindTX> anyhow I need to know if it is possible to connect to AOL with ubuntu...if so can someone direct me to a page that has the info?
[08:53] <Frogzoo> !gdesklets
[08:53] <ubotu> gdesklets is probably gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[08:53] <steveO_> AOL as in AIM or AOL as in dialup?
[08:53] <polpak> !info xine-ui
[08:53] <ubotu> xine-ui: (the xine video player, user interface), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.99.4-0ubuntu6 (dapper), Packaged size: 1567 kB, Installed size: 3512 kB
[08:53] <StaindTX> dialup
[08:53] <Dirge> He gave me a sources.list?
[08:53] <Hoxzer> xx7
[08:53] <Frogzoo> xxozxx: gdesklets are very bling & also quite bugged
[08:53] <polpak> !tell udo about repositories
[08:53] <Snowfairy> StaindTX, I can't say with 100% accuracy, but if you can configure your modem, you should be able to connect to AOL just fine.
[08:53] <Dirge> I'm having a hard time reading this while checking my settings, too many join/part/nick changes.
[08:54] <Flannel> Dirge: you don't need to go to settings, they're already visible, skip down to the enabling/editing universe to includemultiverse
[08:54] <nickrud> Dirge, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[08:54] <polpak> Dirge:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[08:54] <Flannel> StaindTX: I know it's possible, but I don't know the link
[08:54] <xxozxx> Frogzoo, i dont really need bling, but would liketo develope applets on this
[08:54] <Flannel> !tell xxozxx about java
[08:55] <nickrud> I particularly like the preamble
[08:55] <Snowfairy> StaindTX, should just be able to put in your normal dial-up number and then the username and password you use to connect normally and it should be fine... don't think there's anything special about AOL on that level.
[08:55] <Frogzoo> xxozxx: one thing to watch for - make sure your applet can run multiple instances without problems...
[08:55] <Snowfairy> now whether you can browse AOL's services is another thing.
[08:55] <polpak> Dirge: close synaptic and replace /etc/apt/sources.list with the file on the pastebin. Then sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[08:55] <xxozxx> be back later...family guy
[08:55] <andrivid> Hey i need help please.
[08:55] <nickrud> Frogzoo, the voice of experience?
[08:55] <polpak> !justask
[08:56] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[08:56] <andrivid> I tried to upgrade glibc by compiling by hand........and now i got this error whenever i try any command.........
[08:56] <StaindTX> well I found loa-aol or something like that...(not on linux hdd) and tryed to compile it but the syntex is all spanish to me...do not know what the errors mean
[08:56] <nickrud> andrivid, reinstall.
[08:56] <andrivid> cant i fix it with live boot?
[08:56] <polpak> andrivid: it will be a lot of trouble
[08:56] <neutrinomass> andrivid: Why did you even try to install glibc like that ?
[08:56] <StaindTX> los-aol...aol dialer
[08:56] <nickrud> andrivid, you probably borked it seriously, glibc is the fundamental library
[08:57] <andrivid> i was installing java jdk by sun, and it needed the newer version i couldtn find it in apt-get so i used source
[08:57] <andrivid> Heres the error /bin/bash: relocation error: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: symbol _dl_out_of_memory, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference
[08:57] <neutrinomass> andrivid: Generally playing with the toolchain is a big nono. This is hard to fix even on gentoo ...
[08:57] <polpak> andrivid: and why were you installing the jdk like that
[08:57] <Dirge> Great, I have duplicate lists.
[08:57] <Flannel> pengy is in universe, it claims to connect to AOL, StaindTX.  no idea what else it does though
[08:57] <andrivid> i downloaded it from Sun
[08:58] <akudewan> andrivid: Should've apt-getted it
[08:58] <nickrud> andrivid, reinstall. Please, save yourself a lot of time and wasted heartache.
[08:58] <polpak> andrivid: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk works fine
[08:58] <udo> which section is for xine?
[08:58] <polpak> udo universe
[08:58] <andrivid> i odnt want hte gnu version of java..i wanted the sun version
[08:58] <DShepherd> !tell andrivid about java
[08:59] <polpak> andrivid: which part of "sun-java5-jdk" leads you to suspect it's not SUN JAVA 5 ??
[08:59] <andrivid> okay
[08:59] <andrivid> well i didnt know that was there and didnt see it
[08:59] <StaindTX> got pengy but cannot edit the config file for the user name and passy part....every time I run it it keeps giving an error about editing the config file.
[08:59] <nickrud> andrivid, reinstall, come back, and we'll help you get the latest java. But, compiling glibc screwed you over.
[08:59] <neutrinomass> andrivid: Probably the best bet you have is boot from a livecd and copy anything related to libc from the livecd's /lib to your /lib. I'm not sure this will work, it may make matters WORSE (I have never tried it myself)
[08:59] <Jimmy89> storing wep key to key#2 using network-manager
[08:59] <Jimmy89> anyone know how?
[08:59] <neutrinomass> andrivid: How new is the installation ?
[08:59] <Frogzoo> nickrud: yes unfortunately. I'd really like to be able to run weather apps for different cities, with clocks for their respective time zone underneath, but all the desklets crap out but for the last to load
[08:59] <andrivid> Do i dare use a Breezy cd to "Repair Install" a breezy install which was apt-get upgrade'd to Dapper?
[08:59] <Geoffrey2> Dirge, I've had that happen before...minor bug in the way they have the Package Manager set up
[09:00] <udo> where is universe?
[09:00] <polpak> !tell udo about universe
[09:00] <Snowfairy> StaindTX,  probably need to edit the config file by hand before running :)
[09:00] <Frogzoo> nickrud: I should take a screenshot though - it looks pretty impressive - shame it's broken
[09:00] <nickrud> Frogzoo, ah, I've seen that one, I need current weather also.
[09:00] <nickrud> more than one place. It's probably hard to write
[09:00] <andrivid> umm like a month
[09:01] <Dirge> I have a window that I look out to see what the weather is like.
[09:01] <polpak> andrivid: I'd suggest just biting the bullet and dloading the dapper ISO, or re-dist upgrade from breezy again
[09:01] <Snowfairy> Dirge, windows are bad mmmkay? :)
[09:01] <Dirge> It's made of glass. lol
[09:01] <andrivid> i have a 600Mhz machine, anyone know how long it should take for a complete re-install?
[09:01] <Snowfairy> yeah ;p
[09:01] <neutrinomass> andrivid: Hm... that's bad. I was about ot suggest copyin the entire livecd /lib, but this will totally b0rk your system. Simplest way is to reinstall....
[09:01] <neutrinomass> andrivid: An hour ?
[09:01] <Snowfairy> I put my hand through a window last week >.<
[09:01] <Snowfairy> so, windows == bad :P
[09:01] <andrivid> Only an hour?
[09:02] <nickrud> andrivid, less than an hour after the download
[09:02] <Nilsy> andrivid, not much more
[09:02] <Dirge> Yeah, it's that whole, "natural sunlight" that's bad.
[09:02] <andrivid> okay..well i can handle that
[09:02] <polpak> andrivid: the install is pretty fast. The download is what takes time
[09:02] <neutrinomass> andrivid: Fixing this will probably take MUCH longer though :)
[09:02] <Snowfairy> Yes, sunlight would ruin my fair complexion :P
[09:02] <nickrud> oh, so much longer :)
[09:02] <andrivid> Well i can do the dist-upgrade while im using breezy
[09:02] <StaindTX> did that.. still asks about user name and pass. Grrrrrrrrrr can I sue Gates ....dang Windows made me lazy
[09:02] <Nilsy> Snowfairy, your fairy complexion ? ;)
[09:02] <andrivid> I have a dapper cd coming but itll take another 2-3 weeks.
[09:02] <Snowfairy> StaindTX hmmm...
[09:03] <Snowfairy> NIlsy, something like that :)
[09:03] <Nilsy> hihi
[09:03] <Dirge> is there a good Java IDE for Linux?
[09:03] <Snowfairy> Being in Canadia, hiding inside, and liking snow, I'm almost the same color :P
[09:03] <andrivid> Eclipse is good, if you have a fast enough machine
[09:03] <garryfre> Hello. I have this line in my fstab. It keeps mounting ntfs as RW. Why is this doing that??? I've done enough research to explode 400 T1 lines and I can't figure it out ... /dev/sda1	/mnt/Sata1      ntfs	 uid=1000,umask=0,ro 0 0
[09:03] <polpak> Dirge: Jedit works good for an editor.. not really an IDE though
[09:03] <Dirge> Canadia huh? err. Eh?
[09:03] <Snowfairy> Yus, Canadia.
[09:03] <StaindTX> O nother question....
[09:03] <Snowfairy> They're called Canadians, so the country -must- be Canadia.
[09:03] <rpedro> andrivid: try using jigdo to get a dapper iso, it will reuse the package you downloaded during the dist-upgrade
[09:04] <Dirge> hmm, Guess BlueJay would work since it's Java based.
[09:04] <andrivid> do you guys work for ubuntu, or just use it alot?
[09:04] <StaindTX> Opengl support? Ubuntu have that?
[09:04] <polpak> andrivid: use it
[09:04] <rpedro> andrivid: *packages
[09:04] <Snowfairy> andrivid, everyone here is volunteer support :)
[09:04] <polpak> StaindTX: yes
[09:04] <Dirge> Just wondering if there was a platorm specific one.
[09:04] <garryfre> Its been three days and I'm am at the end of my rope, and am ready to delete this daper and go back to breezy.
[09:04] <Madpilot> andrivid, just lots of users here :)
[09:04] <polpak> StaindTX: assuming your video card has good drivers
[09:04] <Madpilot> StaindTX, of course
[09:04] <rpedro> andrivid: I just use it ;)
[09:04] <andrivid> whaqts jigdo?
[09:04] <nickrud> andrivid, use it a lot, but some of the paid guys come thru on aliases now and then
[09:04] <StaindTX> O greatttttttttttttttt now I gotta worry bout that LOL
[09:04] <garryfre> Or shall I gcall it Diaper.
[09:05] <StaindTX> *gets out aspirin*
[09:05] <kane77> hi... I have a problem... I exited game and my resolution stayed at 640*480 what can I do? it looks like i;m zoomed in... I can scroll around the screen...
[09:05] <polpak> kane77: system->preferences->screen resolution
[09:05] <Frogzoo> garryfre: mount it & look for msgs in /var/log/messages - from here it looks like you have wierd ctrl chars in that line
[09:05] <polpak> kane77: just change it, then change it back
[09:05] <rpedro> andrivid: it's a download manager that creates the dapper alternate iso by downloading the individual packages
[09:05] <garryfre> Hello. I have this line in my fstab. It keeps mounting ntfs as RW. Why is this doing that??? I've done enough research to explode 400 T1 lines and I can't figure it out ... /dev/sda1	/mnt/Sata1      ntfs	 uid=1000,umask=0,ro 0 0
[09:05] <nickrud> kandinski, try hitting clt-alt-plus/minus on the numpad
[09:05] <andrivid> would i need to download jigdo?
[09:05] <garryfre> hmmm
[09:05] <NZheretic> Is there any mirror for the stable version of EasyUbuntu ? freecontrib.org is down.
[09:06] <nickrud> herm, kane77 try hitting clt-alt-plus/minus on the numpad
[09:06] <rpedro> andrivid: you can normally get the .jigdo file where you downoad the dapper iso
[09:06] <garryfre> well, I've had enough of that. I'm going back to breezy tomorrow.
[09:06] <kane77> polpak, and what can I do to prevent this from happening... cause It happens everytime...
[09:06] <udo> i have dapper release and i want install xine how can i do that?
[09:06] <polpak> kane77: what game is it?
[09:06] <nickrud> kane77, it's a bug in the game
[09:07] <yintz> hi
[09:07] <yintz> hello everyone
[09:07] <nickrud> udo, install xine-ui
[09:07] <polpak> udo, I told you already. Install the universe repository and then install the package
[09:07] <polpak> udo ubotu msged you with the howto
[09:07] <simbad> Hello. I tried to upgrade from badger to dapper using "update-manager -d". But it says only, my system would be uptodate. Any ideas whats wrong? (I havent touched the sources.list so far)
[09:07] <jani_> udo, or sudo apt-get install xine-ui
[09:07] <polpak> !tell simbad about upgrade
[09:08] <Jimmy89> hey guys
[09:08] <kane77> polpak, its alien arena
[09:08] <Jimmy89> what other wifi gui clients are there
[09:08] <polpak> kane77: hrm. never played it
[09:08] <Nichirasu> I seem to be receiving an error in the terminal window whenever I close out ettercap, I'm using Ubuntu 6.0.6
[09:08] <Nichirasu> heres the error
[09:08] <StaindTX> Grrrrr I need to get "Ubuntu for Dummies" book
[09:08] <Nichirasu> http://pastebin.com/706009
[09:09] <Snowfairy> StaindTX, I'd but it too if there was one :)
[09:09] <jani_> <<< running Google Earth on Dapper :)
[09:09] <spacey> there are several ubuntu books
[09:09] <suprchris> can someone help with the numlock
[09:09] <Nichirasu> I'm doing this all from the root account
[09:09] <spacey> i have one here from apress, its really for new users
[09:09] <nickrud> jani_, good on you :)
[09:09] <spacey> and there is also an official ubuntu book
[09:09] <Nichirasu> any help would greatly be appreciated
[09:09] <Frogzoo> !docs
[09:09] <Nichirasu> thanks
[09:09] <ubotu> [docs]  an index of documentation on the Ubuntu Wiki - you can find it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[09:09] <StaindTX> where did you get them?
[09:09] <Snowfairy> spacey, seriously?  I didn't know, can you link me to places to buy?
[09:10] <spacey> Snowfairy: your favourite bookshop
[09:10] <StaindTX> Hmmmmmmm
[09:10] <Snowfairy> spacey, well, I'd need the names regardless... I live in the middle of nowhere, closest bookstore is 200km away or so :P
[09:10] <suprchris> i can't find the numlockx program, help?
[09:10] <Snowfairy> and, they don't have a huge computer selection :)
[09:10] <spacey> Snowfairy: order online =)
[09:10] <DarthMorlock> www.amazon.com
[09:10] <garryfre> Hello. I have this line in my fstab. It keeps mounting ntfs as RW. Why is this doing that??? I've done enough research to explode 400 T1 lines and I can't figure it out ... /dev/sda1	/mnt/Sata1      ntfs	 uid=1000,umask=0,ro 0 0
[09:10] <StaindTX> Dang Snow where are you?
[09:10] <nickrud> Nichirasu, you are not runnig ettercap as root (or as sudo)
[09:11] <Snowfairy> StaindTX, Goodlands, MB.
[09:11] <Snowfairy> (MB = Manitoba)
[09:11] <StaindTX> O heck LOL Hello from Texas
[09:11] <polpak> garryfre: and did you do what Frogzoo suggested?
[09:11] <spacey> http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=br_ss_hs/002-8518201-4765608?platform=gurupa&url=index%3Dblended&keywords=Ubuntu&Go.x=10&Go.y=10&Go=Go
[09:11] <Snowfairy> StaindTX, my computer's in texas :P (dallas to be exact)
[09:11] <Snowfairy> spacey, sanks :)
[09:11] <Geoffrey2> is there any way to force Ubuntu to power down a laptop's wired NIC when running on battery?
[09:11] <loxety> why is x-window-system-dev missing from apt-get?
[09:12] <Snowfairy> StaindTX, left my system with friends in Dallas before I came up to Canadia, just trying to get it mailed sometime now :P
[09:12] <garryfre>  polpak yes, no, no information found.
[09:12] <polpak> loxety: there's xorg-dev and xserver-xorg-dev
[09:12] <Frogzoo> garryfre: ru on a mac?
[09:12] <StaindTX> Ahhhhh lol Arlington here to be exact...
[09:12] <Snowfairy> yikes, expensive books :o
[09:13] <suprchris> I have a menial problem but I'm trying to learn to do this stuff on my own can someone help please?
[09:13] <steko> hi
[09:13] <loxety> polok, those are the newer packages for xorg?
[09:13] <steko> evolution is not starting at all since this morning
[09:13] <nickrud> loxety, it's been broken out differently, I'm still looking also
[09:13] <garryfre> Frogzoo no, pc
[09:13] <polpak> suprchris: just ask your question. we'll try to answer it
[09:13] <Frogzoo> garryfre: please delete your fstab line & retype - I'm seeing wierd ctrl characters maybe you can't see
[09:14] <burepe2> What is the command to unload a driver? I guess the opposite of 'modprobe'?
[09:14] <robert_> whee
[09:14] <Frogzoo> burepe2: rmmod
[09:14] <loxety> trying to get Steam (Half-Life 2) working with wine ;)
[09:14] <garryfre> mount -a
[09:14] <garryfre> argh
[09:14] <robert_> I like the ubuntu setup process
[09:14] <nickrud> loxety, I think it's currently xserver-xorg-dev
[09:14] <polpak> robert_: I would also if it didn't lock up after the partitioner.
[09:14] <burepe2> Frogzoo: thanks
[09:14] <loxety> nickrud, thank you
[09:15] <garryfre> I'm getting so rummy from fighting this thing I am typing stuff in xchat that goes to terminal
[09:15] <Frogzoo> burepe2: yw
[09:15] <robert_> heh
[09:15] <polpak> robert_: but it is nice you can play games and chat online while it's installing
[09:15] <udo>  i must enable multiverse or universe repositories?
[09:15] <calamari> hi
[09:15] <m_0_r_0_n> Hi, what do I need to read a normal video-dvd. Linux is not able to read the content of the dvd, but windows does.
[09:15] <polpak> udo, universe
[09:15] <suprchris> I can't find or download numlockx using either synaptic or apt-get
[09:15] <polpak> !tell m_0_r_0_n about dvd
[09:15] <nickrud> loxety, tell me if it's wrong, please :)
[09:15] <loxety> was also looking for msttcorefonts
[09:15] <udo> for xine
[09:16] <polpak> actually m_0_r_0_n
[09:16] <nickrud> loxety, it's still there, in the multiverse section
[09:16] <loxety> nickrud, found the xorg-dev and xserver-xorg-dev
[09:16] <kiroh> can you help me??? i have problems usin totem
[09:16] <polpak> !tell m_0_r_0_n about restricted
[09:16] <garryfre> Retyped lines, same crap, everythign is mounted as RW including ntfs
[09:16] <polpak> just follow the restricted wiki
[09:16] <m_0_r_0_n> polpak, ok, I try it
[09:16] <suprchris> can anyone helop me with apt-get or synaptic?
[09:16] <calamari> how do I change the menu Quit button so that Shutdown does a shutdown instead of a Log Out?
[09:16] <DShepherd> nite guys
[09:16] <burepe2> suprchris: just ask away
[09:16] <polpak> m_0_r_0_n: the restricted wiki should get dvd's and other windows formats working
[09:16] <udo> i want from the command line how can i enable universe repositories
[09:17] <Geoffrey2> ok, every time I log on to Ubuntu, I have to unlock the keyring so that my wireless device can access the network...is there any way to automate that during startup?
[09:17] <schrodinger> Oyo !
[09:17] <kiroh> i have alredy install all the pakages for restricted formats and i can only hear the sound
[09:17] <someothernick> you need codec
[09:17] <calamari> Geoffrey2: is it something you type in?
[09:17] <Frogzoo> garryfre: also, should read        "/dev/sda1 /mnt/Sata1      ntfs uid=1000,umask=000,ro 0 0"
[09:17] <polpak> kiroh: then you didn't install the right formats. And/or you may need to install totem-xine
[09:18] <udo> i want from the command line how can i enable universe repositories?
[09:18] <polpak> udo read the link ubotu sent you
[09:18] <Madpilot> udo, type 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' first, then copy & paste this pastebin in: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[09:18] <rohan> i am on the 'desktop' cd .. suppose i install a program, say mpg321, and i then go ahead and install dapper to the hdd, will mpg321 be install too ?
[09:18] <polpak> !tell udo about universe
[09:18] <dooglus> rohan: good question.  I think probably not, but I don't know.
[09:18] <nickrud> kiroh, if it's a wma file, it's probably because the guys that reverse engineer media haven't got that one right yet.
[09:19] <loxety> Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package. E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate
[09:19] <polpak> rohan: depends on where you installed your program to, and whether or not you format your partition before installing
[09:19] <rohan> dooglus: if they are, then the cd isntaller ubiquity rocks
[09:19] <rohan> polpak: i used apt-get install mpg321
[09:19] <nickrud> rohan, if you installed it with apt, yes it will automatically update to the latest with a dapper upgrade
[09:19] <loxety> I should have access to uni and multi verses
[09:20] <polpak> !info msttcorefonts
[09:20] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[09:20] <Geoffrey2> calamari, once I've logged in, a window will pop up telling...lesse...something about nm (the network manager) trying to access the keyring, but it's locked...so I need to type in my password to unlock the keyring
[09:20] <polpak> loxety: they're there
[09:20] <rohan> nickrud: i am not upgrading anything
[09:20] <nickrud> rohan, assuming all repos are enabled, but for that one yes
[09:20] <rohan> its a fresh install
[09:20] <polpak> rohan: if you don't upgrade then you'll have to reinstall your optional packages
[09:20] <loxety> for some reason its not installing
[09:20] <calamari> Geoffrey2: oic.. I'm sorry, I don't know then.  Keyring is KDE, right?
[09:20] <nickrud> rohan, fresh install = all previous is erased
[09:21] <polpak> loxety: you must not have your repos enabled or you haven't run apt-get update
[09:21] <rohan> polpak, nickrud: yes, but changes to the live cd environment are not reflected in the subsequent install ?
[09:21] <calamari> Geoffrey2: not that high tech, don't have a wireless laptop.. hehe
[09:21] <StaindTX> BRB
[09:21] <armedking> Anyone else having problem in getting 3d working on an ati card, Just want you to know i fixed it.
[09:21] <nickrud> rohan, absolutely not, in fact, changes to the live cd do not persist across live cd runs
[09:21] <polpak> rohan: no
[09:22] <rohan> nickrud: not across live cd runs !
[09:22] <kiroh> and i had the same problem in breezy
[09:22] <rohan> nickrud: across the subsequent install
[09:22] <m_0_r_0_n> polpak, all source list link are not uptodate :-(
[09:22] <polpak> rohan: if you reboot anything you do on the live cd will go away. it's a live cd. it doesn't touch the hard drive
[09:22] <nickrud> rohan, or putting the live cd in and running it again
[09:22] <polpak> m_0_r_0_n: hrm?
[09:22] <loxety> polok, I checket in /etc/apt/sources.list and all the binary sources are un remarked
[09:23] <kiroh> please help me ...
[09:23] <m_0_r_0_n> polpak, Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/dapper-seveas/list_of_sections/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[09:23] <Frogzoo> armedking: works fine for radeons > 8500 with the fglrx driver
[09:23] <rohan> polpak, nickrud : you dont seem to get me -- i am on a live cd session (as i am now), and i make a change (apt-get install mpg321) and i am installing dapper now without rebooting - will the program be there in the hdd install too ?
[09:23] <Dirge_> Whew, Java working (kinda)... Now to get Wireless working. lol
[09:23] <polpak> loxety: but you still have to add multiverse to the repo
[09:23] <nickrud> rohan, no
[09:23] <rohan> nickrud: ok
[09:23] <polpak> loxety: and it's polpak, not polok ;p
[09:23] <loxety> polok, how can do that?
[09:23] <polpak> !tell loxety about repositories
[09:24] <rohan> nickrud: but if the cd essentially just copies the live environment to the hdd, should the program not be there ?
[09:24] <Geoffrey2> I believe it's because my wireless network is encrypted, and apparently it locks away the encryption key until I put in my password to unlock the keyring....I understand it's a good security measure, but for a computer nobody else uses on a private household network, it's just a pain
[09:24] <armedking> Frogzoo: Yes but people who need mesa or something when they do, It's all screwed up and open source doesnt work anymore there are a lot of people with this problem.
[09:24] <loxety> polpak, sorry
[09:24] <polpak> rohan: no, it doesn't do that
[09:24] <rohan> nickrud: how would the installer find a pristine copy of the live environment ?
[09:24] <andrivid> HOLY SHOT
[09:24] <rohan> polpak: then how would the installer find a pristine copy of the live environment ?
[09:24] <loxety> polpak, thanks!!
[09:24] <andrivid> i typed tar -c programming, and the entire shell is now in some weird language showing mostly squares
[09:24] <Frogzoo> armedking: agreed - driver support isn't great - but as I say, it greatly depends which card u have
[09:24] <nickrud> rohan, no, it doesnt'work that way, as I understand it. I may be wrong, but I'd bet money
[09:24] <Dirge_> Anyone have a link to how to use NDISWrapper?
[09:25] <nickrud> !ndiswrapper
[09:25] <Madpilot> !ndiswrapper
[09:25] <ubotu> I guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[09:25] <polpak> andrivid: control characters are fun
[09:25] <Madpilot> heh
[09:25] <rohan> nickrud: ok :)
[09:25] <nickrud> sloow again :)
[09:25] <Frogzoo> andrivid: 'reset'   or 'stty sane'   or 'echo ctrl v esc c'   - take your pick
[09:25] <Dirge_> What's the ! thing for?
[09:25] <andrivid> WTF happened lol
[09:25] <Dirge_> !ndiswrapper
[09:25] <ubotu> [ndiswrapper]  a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[09:25] <kiroh> everyone know why i cant see avi, mpg and mpeg files with totem??? (i have all the drivers installes)
[09:25] <Frogzoo> Dirge_: the ! gets ubotus attention
[09:26] <armedking> Frogzoo: I have a radeon 9200se the driver from ati has a major bug in it and it doenst use 3d so i solved it by getting an old libGL.so.1.2 and copying it to /usr/lib/ reboot and it worked
[09:26] <Dirge_> Ah, ok. Thanks
[09:26] <garryfre> Thanks Frogzoo, That worked. I had to umount to get it to get to read only. I feel like I've been trying to debug a 50000 million line batch file written in mandarin.
[09:26] <nickrud> Dirge, there's a bot who hold info here, ! tells him it's a question he should answer
[09:26] <rohan> !suspend2
[09:26] <ubotu> suspend2 is probably at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75443
[09:26] <Dirge_> Yeah, thanks. X-Chat doesn't show users in channel.
[09:26] <Frogzoo> garryfre: well, that's a resolution anyhow, thankfully
[09:27] <nickrud> Dirge, sure it does, to the right
[09:27] <Dirge_> Don't see it. Wish it did like mIRC does.
[09:27] <rohan> hmm.. i wonder why the dapper final cd is booting so slowly, compared to teh dapper rc :S
[09:27] <garryfre> Yep, thanks to you. :)
[09:27] <Snowfairy> Here's a question... sometimes apps start flashing... and they -don't- stop.
[09:27] <kiroh> please help me, when you don't help me i will be forced to use windows :(
[09:27] <polpak> Dirge_: you using xchat, or xchat-gnome?
[09:28] <nickrud> Dirge, make sure you're using xchat, not xchat-gnome
[09:28] <Frogzoo> garryfre: yw, enjoy
[09:28] <Snowfairy> How the heck do I get them to stop that? :(
[09:28] <Dirge_> x-chat gnome
[09:28] <loxety> I have ubuntu 6.06 installed
[09:28] <calamari> how do I change the menu Quit button so that Shutdown does a shutdown instead of a Log Out?
[09:28] <ANubix> whats the difference between xchat and xchat gnome?
[09:28] <rohan> someone change !suspend2 to point to - http://dagobah.ucc.asn.au/dapper-kernels/ - please !
[09:28] <kiroh> :'(
[09:28] <higen> hey, anyone know how i can force a diskcheck at boot in ubuntu?
[09:28] <Dirge_> Where do I find the regular version?
[09:28] <nickrud> x-chat gnome is crap, Dirge. A nice idea, lousy execution
[09:28] <polpak> kiroh: can't help if you don't ask a question
[09:28] <nickrud> Dirge, it's in universe, sudo apt-get install xchat
[09:28] <calamari> higen: every bot, or just once?
[09:28] <akudewan> Snowfairy: what exactly do u mean by "flashing" ?
[09:28] <suprchris> how do i use synaptic
[09:29] <loxety> is there an updated guide to adding repositories?
[09:29] <calamari> higen: bot->boot
[09:29] <Snowfairy> akudewan, well, the part in the panel.  it flashses.
[09:29] <kiroh> how can i see avi and mpg files with totem???
[09:29] <Snowfairy> grows bright, and then goes dim
[09:29] <higen> calamari: just once.. .. but if i know how to do it.. i can turn it off and on :)
[09:29] <garryfre> fschk if I recall
[09:29] <Madpilot> kiroh, with w32codecs
[09:29] <nickrud> higen, sudo touch /forcefsck I think
[09:29] <Snowfairy> and it just keeps doing that...  again and again and again and again and again....
[09:29] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell kiroh about restricted
[09:29] <kiroh> i have this pakage installed
[09:29] <higen> nickrud:  sounds good i will try that
[09:29] <calamari> higen: you can use tune2fs to set how often the disk must be checked
[09:29] <Dirge_> uninstalling this xchat. brb
[09:30] <polpak> loxety: bah, that one is out of date.. just use the pastebin url for dapper and replace your sources.list with that one
[09:30] <akudewan> Snowfairy: that will happen when the window demands attention, for instance whenever someone says your name in xchat, you will see the flashing
[09:30] <higen> tune2fs sounds good aswell
[09:30] <Snowfairy> akudewan, yes, I understand that.  but, it doesn't stop.
[09:30] <Snowfairy> even after I look at it.
[09:30] <suprchris> I need help with numlockx
[09:30] <Frogzoo> higen: tune2fs -c 1 /dev/hd#
[09:30] <akudewan> u use KDE or gnome ?
[09:30] <Snowfairy> not to mention I don't really need a window to say look at me unless I really want to monitor it anyways :P
[09:30] <loxety> polpak, pastebin url for dapper?
[09:30] <Snowfairy> Gnome
[09:31] <jani_> you might be interested peeps.. Google just released Google Earth Beta 4 for Linux :)
[09:31] <robert_> hm
[09:31] <nickrud> jani_, old news, at least 12 hours old ;)
[09:31] <robert_> what gives with the Ubuntu "You may not enter an underscore" rule inside the installer?
[09:32] <suprchris> how do i download numlockx?
[09:32] <benplaut> !find numlockx
[09:32] <jani_> nickrud, just read my mails :)
[09:32] <ubotu> numlockx: (enable NumLock in X11 sessions), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.1-3ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 88 kB
[09:32] <rohan> suprchris: apt-get install numlockx ?
[09:32] <Madpilot> suprchris, it's in Ubuntu's repos, just install it w/ apt-get or Synaptic
[09:32] <suprchris> i can't find it in synaptc
[09:32] <nickrud> Frogzoo, does the touching of the forcefsck in / still work (haven't tried it recently)
[09:32] <suprchris> and apt-get says something to that effect too
[09:33] <akudewan> Snowfairy: maybe if you change some settings you can make it stop, I don't use gnome, so I can't give you exact instructions
[09:33] <StaindTX> Can I dl the updates here in windows burn on cd and install in UBUNTU?
[09:33] <Snowfairy> akudewan, searching throught gconf-editor, can't seem to find anything ;(
[09:33] <kiroh> please i have read restricted formats before and i have installed all the pakages and totem plays nothing
[09:33] <Madpilot> suprchris, do  you have Universe repo enabled?
[09:34] <udo> how can i install universe repositories from the command line?
[09:34] <nickrud> StaindTX, yes, but it's not trivial, and probably not worth it
[09:34] <suprchris> i don't know
[09:34] <Jaak_> how come Rhythmbox says that all my mp3's are not valid, but totem has no problem with them?
[09:34] <Dirge> AH, much better..
[09:34] <suprchris> send me a link on how i guess
[09:34] <loxety> polpak, ok I see
[09:34] <Ayabara> I'm stuck in windows at work, and want to run vmware player with a dapper image. anyone know where I can download a prebuilt image?
[09:34] <dooglus> udo: you don't install repositories.  you enable repositories, or install packages.  which do you want?
[09:34] <Matthewv> Ayabara, try a search on the wiki, someone has written a guide i think
[09:35] <dooglus> udo: a repository is a collection of packages
[09:35] <polpak> loxety: once you do that just sudo apt-get update and you should be good
[09:35] <Ayabara> Matthewv: ok, thanks
[09:35] <akudewan> Snowfairy: I think this is a bug, have a look at this page: https://launchpad.net/products/libwnck/+bug/31134
[09:35] <nickrud> Jaak_, have you looked at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats yet? That should get going in rhythmbox
[09:35] <udo> enable repositories
[09:35] <StaindTX> LMFAO ok new here what the heck is wiki? I heard of wifi but not wiki
[09:35] <dooglus> udo: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:35] <Frogzoo> nickrud: grep forcefsk /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh        that's a cool trick - didn't know that was there...
[09:35] <kiroh> please help me, when you don't help me i will be forced to use windows :(
[09:35] <snoops> it's a wiki wiki web StaindTX.. you haven't been to wikipedia?!
[09:35] <Matthewv> StaindTX, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[09:35] <Jaak_> ok thanks
[09:36] <nickrud> Frogzoo, it's an old debian trick ...
[09:36] <Snowfairy> staindtx wiki is kinda like a colloboratively edited website.  Very neat.
[09:36] <cparker> question... with the /media directory in place, what is the purpose of the /mnt directory?
[09:36] <robert_> what's the default root pw for ubuntu?
[09:36] <Matthewv> StaindTX, it is a user-editable documentation repository
[09:36] <kiroh> :'(
[09:36] <kiroh> :'(
[09:36] <kiroh> :'(
[09:36] <StaindTX> ahhhhh ok
[09:36] <loxety> polpak, yes that seems to have fixed it thank you
[09:36] <cparker> robert_, there is none.
[09:36] <Snowfairy> akudewan, taking a look. :)
[09:36] <StaindTX> Well like I said snow...New.... got UBUNTU from a friend he sd to try it out and here I am LOL
[09:37] <cparker> robert_, take a look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:37] <udo> how can i enable?
[09:37] <StaindTX> so basically all the language is spanish to me right now...but I will learn in time
[09:37] <Madpilot> kiroh, start Totem, go Help->About - does it mention 'xine' or 'gstreamer'?
[09:37] <robert_> cparker: then how come I can't login as root?
[09:37] <robert_> ah
[09:37] <watson540> .
[09:37] <Dirge> The default root pw for Ubuntu is random. You use sudo until you set the root password yourself.
[09:37] <kiroh> yes GStreamer 0.10.6
[09:38] <nickrud> which you should never do, setting a root password.
[09:38] <Matthewv> Ayabara, additionally, you might want to look at http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/   vmware has a number of operating systems available for download and running, ubuntu 5.10 is there, I'm not sure about dapper
[09:38] <watson540> 0
[09:38] <watson540> .++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[09:38] <funkmaster> hey people :D I have some trouble with flumotion, has anyone ever used it? somehow the flumotion manager makes probles, could use some help--
[09:38] <polpak> don't set the root password. Use sudo
[09:38] <Dirge> Why wouldn't you want a root password?
[09:38] <polpak> Dirge: why would you?
[09:38] <cparker> Dirge: because root is dangerous.
[09:38] <udo> how can i enable universe repositories for xine support?
[09:38] <Casanova> ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin: ./setup.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[09:38] <StaindTX> Opppssss...
[09:38] <Casanova> what does the above error mean?
[09:38] <dooglus> polpak: you would want one so that when your sudo stops working, you have a fallback
[09:38] <udo> or install the packages
[09:38] <StaindTX> Been messin in root sense the beginning
[09:39] <polpak> dooglus: that's what rescue mode is for
[09:39] <dooglus> polpak: I don't have a rescue mode
[09:39] <nickrud> Dirge, it's a target for hackers. They probably won't try to force the password of a random user on a machine that has admin privs
[09:39] <polpak> dooglus: if sudo stops working something is wrong
[09:39] <Dirge> Same here. I'm not used to having no control over my OS. (I don't use Mac)
[09:39] <akudewan> Snowfairy: I found a way to disable it: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/113
[09:39] <dooglus> polpak: yes.  it comes up here a lot though.
[09:39] <polpak> Dirge: sudo gives you plenty of control
[09:39] <jani_> udo, run synaptic... Settings >>> Repositories... check the Universe and Multiverese ... close it then do update
[09:39] <kiroh> :'(
[09:39] <kiroh> :'(
[09:39] <loxety> couldnt find the package libfontsconfig1-dev in apt-get
[09:39] <kiroh> :'(
[09:39] <kiroh> :'(
[09:39] <kiroh> :'(
[09:39] <kiroh> :'(
[09:39] <Snowfairy> akudewan thank you very much :)
[09:39] <Madpilot> kiroh, stop.
[09:39] <akudewan> np :)
[09:39] <Frogzoo> kiroh: naughty naughty
[09:39] <dooglus> polpak: ubuntu doesn't stop me deleting the last admin user.
[09:40] <nickrud> dooglus, yeah, people that mess with /etc/hosts badly
[09:40] <kiroh> then please help
[09:40] <polpak> dooglus: true enough
[09:40] <dooglus> polpak: once nobody is left in the admin group, there's no more sudo access allowed
[09:40] <stevekl> Can someone show me how I actually get to the wireless AP listing part of network-manager?
[09:40] <stevekl> I can't figure this program out
[09:40] <kiroh> whi noone answer???
[09:40] <Ayabara> Matthewv: that's what I saw too. guess I'll run fc5 if I can't find dapper
[09:40] <cparker> kiroh: did you ask a question?
[09:40] <polpak> dooglus: that's why there's rescue mode
[09:40] <dooglus> polpak: how do I run rescue mode?
[09:40] <Madpilot> dooglus, that's what recovery console is for...
[09:40] <nickrud> dooglus, or recovery disks
[09:40] <kiroh> please i have read restricted formats before and i have installed all the pakages and totem plays nothing
[09:40] <Ademan> i'm trying to access my vsftpd server through WAN, but i can't seem to get it to work, my server is behind 2 routers, so in both routers i opened TCP 20, 21 and 44000 - 44128 for pasv,  and vsftp is aware of the 44000-44128 limitation,  yet I can't connect through wan, what might be up?
[09:40] <udo> jani_ why multiverse?
[09:40] <Madpilot> dooglus, thru GRUB
[09:40] <higen> thanks.. that worked :)
[09:40] <Matthewv> Ayabara, k, hope it works well for you
[09:40] <polpak> dooglus: reboot and select it from the grub menu
[09:40] <dooglus> Madpilot: recovery console?  isn't that a windows program?
[09:40] <dooglus> Madpilot: GRUB won't work on this PC
[09:41] <Ayabara> Matthewv: me to :-)
[09:41] <Madpilot> dooglus, whatever it's called - the option in GRUB
[09:41] <kiroh> why totem plays nothing???
[09:41] <dooglus> I use LILO.  Can I still get rescue mode?
[09:41] <nickrud> me rolls around, seriously laughing
[09:41] <Ademan> kiroh: because you want mplayer, OR totem-xine
[09:41] <funkmaster> kroh: install vlc
[09:41] <nickrud> dooglus, yes, just boot lnx-bbc and edit /etc/hosts and fix it
[09:41] <kiroh> what is the diference???
[09:41] <Ademan> i personally prefer totem-xine because its prettier
[09:41] <dooglus> nickrud: lnx-bbc?  what's that?
[09:41] <polpak> kiroh: which is hilarious, since I told you to install totem-xine like 30 mins ago
[09:41] <funkmaster> much better and no codec trouble, build in..
[09:41] <nickrud> dooglus, a seriously ancient live boot disk
[09:41] <vith> hi. where do i find the kernel log when running from 6.06 livecd?
[09:42] <Matthewv> dooglus, or you could boot the ubuntu desktop cd or install cd, either chroot into partition or just boot rescue
[09:42] <kiroh> but that is not the same that totem???
[09:42] <crimsun_> vith: /var/log/kern.log
[09:42] <polpak> kiroh: no
[09:42] <kiroh> sorry i'am new
[09:42] <kiroh> ok i will install that
[09:42] <dooglus> nickrud: I'd rather have the root password set for such an emergency, rather than downloading and booting an unknown live cd...  where's the greater risk?
[09:42] <nickrud> dooglus, I keep it for archival purposes, just use any live cd, lke knopix
[09:42] <Geoffrey2> I tried to edit the sources.list, and the response is unknown mime type -- using "application/*"
[09:42] <cparker> so, what's the difference between /media and /mnt? is /mnt even necessary anymore?
[09:43] <mcpowley> does anyone have any experience with running bastille on their system? Is it worth trying out?
[09:43] <Geoffrey2> I presume that means it has no idea what to open that file type with?
[09:43] <nickrud> *knoppix
[09:43] <Dirge> hmm, I can't seem to select WPA2 on my wireless settings.
[09:43] <Frogzoo> kiroh: dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs libdvdc22s streamer0.10-plugins-ugly totem-xine
[09:43] <dooglus> cparker: none of them are strictly necessary.  you can make and use /yourbutt/ instead if you want to
[09:43] <Dirge> It only allows for WEP.
[09:43] <Frogzoo> kiroh: check you have them all
[09:43] <bulltitan> i can't control the volume level by using key shortcuts (sound card sound blaster live 24)
[09:43] <kiroh> ok
[09:43] <_nano_> !apache
[09:43] <ubotu> apache is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:43] <funkmaster> flumotion anyone??
[09:43] <polpak> dooglus: fine, you install root if you like. But for most users (who will use GRUB, will have a rescue mode, and will not know how to properly secure their system) they're better off using sudo
[09:44] <Frogzoo> ubotu fixxine is dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs libdvdc22s streamer0.10-plugins-ugly totem-xine
[09:44] <ubotu> Frogzoo: okay
[09:44] <dooglus> polpak: I'm not suggesting installing anything extra.  I'm just setting my root password.
[09:44] <polpak> dooglus: and you are welcome too. But it's not recommended
[09:44] <bulltitan> any ideas? i think it might be something realted to gstreamer but what do i know i'm almost a newbie
[09:44] <dooglus> polpak: I use sudo too.  I just like to have a root password set for when things go wrong.
[09:44] <Frogzoo> ubotu no, fixxine is dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs libdvdcss2 streamer0.10-plugins-ugly totem-xine
[09:44] <ubotu> okay, Frogzoo
[09:44] <nickrud> dooglus, a fair point. But, please, document and support what's used here.
[09:44] <polpak> dooglus: I'd rather have a rescue mode, or a boot cd. Cause those will be much more likely to help
[09:45] <dooglus> polpak: I'd like a rescue mode too, but it doesn't work for me - or at least, I don't know how to get into it if it does.
[09:45] <garryfre> The live CD version of dapper has a rescue mode.
[09:45] <dooglus> garryfre: it does?
[09:46] <nickrud> dooglus, well, write a stanza for lilo that matches the one from grub: booting into single user mode, assuming no root password set.
[09:46] <Dirge> Does Ubuntu support WPA2?
[09:46] <bulltitan> anybody has aounf issues like this in ubuntu with this sound card? please i can use the one onboard but it sounds like a bean can
[09:46] <garryfre> Yeah, I stumbled on it today, Oh scuse, its the alternate install cd that has a rescue mode.
[09:46] <Geoffrey2> how do I go about editing the sources.list?
[09:46] <dooglus> nickrud: what does the grub stanza say?
[09:46] <robert_> hm
[09:47] <kiroh> thanks ... but i will do that tomorrow
[09:47] <kiroh> bye
[09:47] <robert_> I would like a regex expression to allow _ inside usernames :/
[09:47] <dooglus> robert_: for what program?
[09:47] <nickrud> dooglus, relevant line: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/hdb2 ro single
[09:47] <udo> which is the url tutorial for xine setup?
[09:47] <StaindTX> ok people....I am outta here...need to bootup ub laterz all
[09:47] <robert_> dooglus: adduser, heh
[09:48] <bulltitan> is it beacause the shortcut uses pcm control and not master? or what?
[09:48] <dooglus> robert_: adduser doesn't take an re argument does it?
[09:48] <nickrud> dooglus, i could pm you the entire stanza
[09:48] <vith> ok, i'm trying to recover data off of a dying hard disk, and i'm getting scsi errors after a while ( http://pastebin.com/706050 ), is there anything i can do to reset the state of the disk other than cutting power to it? it's sATA
[09:48] <robert_> it's inside adduser.conf with the NAME_REGEX configuration option :P
[09:48] <dooglus> nickrud: please.
[09:48] <m0gsi> Hello all
[09:49] <bulltitan> this is so frustrating
[09:49] <CrippsFX> should I get a palm Zire 31, or a Compaq Ipaq (3630) ?
[09:49] <maruchan> do the amarok themes work in gnome?
[09:49] <Lukian> is there something which can run through the file system and repair permissions?
[09:50] <robert_> I don't really care if this is 'insecure'- as this is a development server, with a limited number of people who may access it
[09:50] <udo> does anyone knows why i dont hear anything sound? my sustem detect the sound chip but nothings happen(no audio)
[09:50] <dooglus> robert_: use this then:  ^[a-z_] [-a-z0-9_] *$
[09:50] <robert_> (e.g. vpn-only)
[09:50] <robert_> ah
[09:50] <robert_> thanks
[09:50] <nickrud> Lukian, probably not, did you screw up your permissions?
[09:50] <bulltitan> udo as far as i know the default sonund config is silenced
[09:50] <darkman241> Just an FYI , folks: Yesterday, we moved a Debian Sarge server over to 6.06, using a dist-upgrade, without a hitch. I was very, very impressed indeed.
[09:50] <Matthewv> Ayabara, there is a ubuntu dapper server on the vmware site, you could always upgrade that to full ubuntu
[09:50] <dooglus> robert_: if you don't want to allow names to *start* with a '_', then remove the first '_' from the re and leave the 2nd
[09:50] <garryfre> try altamixer at the terminal and make sure your channels are not muted.
[09:51] <Lukian> nickrud: possibly
[09:51] <CrippsFX> darkman241, congratulations. that's pretty sweet.
[09:51] <nickrud> darkman241, yes, impressive indeed :)
[09:51] <CrippsFX> apt is a very robust tool for deb-based systems ;)
[09:51] <darkman241> :)
[09:51] <Dirge> !WPA2
[09:51] <ubotu> Dirge: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:51] <udo> how can i enable this silence?
[09:51] <dooglus> robert_: it means "begins with a-through-z or '_', and is followed by 0-or-more of ('-', 0-9, a-z, and '_')
[09:51] <Dirge> !WPA
[09:51] <garryfre> Also linux tends to have a lower volume.
[09:51] <bulltitan> maruchan amarok works in gnome but be sure to have all the codecs installed
[09:52] <nickrud> Lukian, the only true way (for us normal dudes, not those types who just did an dist-upgrade from sarge to dapper) is to reinstall
[09:52] <bulltitan> i did it i worked fine
[09:52] <maruchan> no i know it works i have it working, but i just found that it has themes
[09:52] <garryfre> alsamixer at /appplications/accessories/terminal
[09:52] <bulltitan> but nobody is willing to answer my simple question i see thanks for that
[09:52] <Lukian> nickrud: I vagely remember running some command as part of a howto to fix up permissions
[09:52] <Jaak_> is there a way to do sudo in filebrowser?
[09:52] <bulltitan> ho
[09:52] <Dirge> !WPA
[09:52] <Jaak_> !wpa
[09:52] <Lukian> Jaak_: sudo nautilus? :P
[09:52] <Jaak_> yes
[09:53] <nickrud> Lukian, permission suck if they are bad, and there is no easy way to fix them.
[09:53] <dooglus> Jaak_: alt-f2 sudo <whatever>
[09:53] <Jaak_> ok
[09:53] <Jaak_> thanks
[09:53] <xice> anyone with VMWARE : i get this error (on XGL) upon trying to maximize nable to find an appropriate host video mode.
[09:53] <xice> Adding the guest mode to the 'display' subsection of the 'screen' section of your /etc/X11/XF86Config and restarting X is likely to help.
[09:53] <xice> Failed to switch to full screen  mode.
[09:53] <Lukian> nickrud: ok, well, I guess I find out what happen when I have to reboot :)
[09:53] <Madpilot> Jaak_, be careful with "sudo nautilus" - it works, but delete the wrong thing and you could have all sorts of fun...
[09:53] <nickrud> Lukian, true :)
[09:54] <Hoxzer> :D "all sorts of fun"
[09:54] <Hoxzer> "weE!"
[09:54] <Bazzi> the joy of a rm -rf /
[09:54] <zelevw> can anyone tell me where my X session settings are kept....my keyboard and mouse are not behaving correctly and the settings don stick...if I log on as another user everything works OK
[09:54] <Frogzoo> Jaak_: run x apps as root is usually pretty unrecommended
[09:54] <Lukian> zelevw: /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[09:54] <zelevw> Lukian: local user...not system wide but thank you
[09:55] <Lukian> ah odd
[09:55] <Frogzoo> Bazzi: please don't mention such dark acts - keep it child (and newb) friendly
[09:55] <nickrud> zelevw, System-Prefs-Keyboard and Mouse, try those first
[09:56] <Bazzi> Frogzoo: I didn't put sudo before it ;-)
[09:56] <bulltitan> i did the google thing and also the wiki thing and also the forum thing and no one was able to answer my question i see here isn't different
[09:56] <dooglus> Lukian: what did you do that messed permissions up?
[09:56] <zelevw> nickrud: the setting changes I make do not stick...thanks anyways...theres gotta be a file wi the settings
[09:56] <Frogzoo> Bazzi: ;)
[09:56] <Frogzoo> lol
[09:56] <garryfre> I remembr my first desaster from running as root. I tried to backup the system but gzip removes the files after archiving. If I had not been root I might not have been able to fubar the isystem.
[09:56] <xice> anyone using Vmware and xgl?
[09:57] <Bazzi> xice: linux as guest or host?
[09:57] <nickrud> zelevw, thos should be instantanous changes, and persistent for that user ...
[09:57] <xice> Bazzi, linux host
[09:57] <Bazzi> oh, OK :)
[09:57] <xice> no point of the other way
[09:57] <garryfre> I don't know the anwer to your question Bulltitan. I wish I could help.
[09:57] <zelevw> nickrud: they should but they dont
[09:57] <darkman241> Oh, another thing: We have developed a system whereby we can remotely and automatically deploy (Ubuntu) to large numbers of workstations (running windows), resulting in a fully configured dual boot system. We've already done this with Breezy (across around 400 workstations), and we now have the Dapper drop almost ready. Can someone suggest a good place where we can document this in the future?
[09:58] <Geoffrey2> ok, one more time in case it was missed, how do I go about editing the sources.list file?
[09:58] <k31th> Bind or NSD ?
[09:58] <bulltitan> thanks for that honesty at least garryfre ;)
[09:58] <Matthewv> darkman241, the wiki?
[09:58] <garryfre> bulltitan welcome. good luck.
[09:58] <nickrud> bulltitan, and I didn't see the question. I'm probably not alone.
[09:58] <Ulfalizer> breezy uses kernel version 2.6 by default, right?
[09:58] <k31th> darkman241: #ubuntu-doc
[09:58] <nickrud> Ulfalizer, yes
[09:59] <Ulfalizer> thanks
[09:59] <Frogzoo> Ulfalizer: 2.6.9 on install, 2.6.12 latest in the repos iirc
[09:59] <Matthewv> Geoffrey2, 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[09:59] <darkman241> Mattheww: *me* slaps his head. :P The wiki sounds good. I forgot that one. :P
[09:59] <bulltitan> ho nick is just that seems to be that sound blaster live 24 sound cards are not fully detected and it works just at half power
[09:59] <nickrud> Frogzoo, 2.6.15 on dapper
[09:59] <Matthewv> darkman241, hehe
[09:59] <bulltitan> including keyboard shortcuts for volume control
[09:59] <Ulfalizer> just needed the info to install it with Parallels. i'm more familiar with bsd's.
[10:00] <nickrud> bulltitan, ok. Watch this space, crimsun hangs out here now and then. Ask him
[10:00] <Flannel> 2.6.12 is most current in breezy
[10:00] <Flannel> Matthewv, Geoffrey2, gksudo
[10:00] <bulltitan> ok
[10:00] <vith> ok, how about this:  how do i power down a sata disk?
[10:00] <nickrud> erh, gotta read more carefully, Flannel
[10:00] <darkman241> It's a really cool system. We're very proud of it. :)
[10:00] <crimsun_> bulltitan: what's the issue?
[10:00] <Flannel> nickrud: hmm?  heh.
[10:01] <nickrud> Flannel, er, me I meant
[10:01] <crimsun_> bulltitan: (btw, you need to preface the line for my nick-complete to trigger. It doesn't work if the nick is in the middle of the line.)
[10:01] <Flannel> nickrud: yeah, I figured it out ;)
[10:01] <garryfre> well, you might try just umounting the sata disk
[10:01] <bulltitan> i see
[10:01] <bulltitan> crimsun is just that seems to be that sound blaster live 24 sound cards are not fully detected and it works just at half power
[10:02] <garryfre> I haven't seen much on power saving features for laptops in dapper so far.
[10:02] <bulltitan> crimsin_ including keyboard shortcuts for volume control
[10:02] <crimsun_> bulltitan: that's pretty vague
[10:02] <crimsun_> bulltitan: keyboard shortcuts are not the sound driver's realm; that's hotkey-setup.
[10:02] <garryfre> My Sound Blaster Audology zs 2 does the same thing - half volume.
[10:03] <jimmy89> HOW DO I USE Network-manager to save a key in key#2?
[10:03] <crimsun_> "half volume"?
[10:03] <bulltitan> wellco me then garryfre :P
[10:03] <crimsun_> guys, please be more specific and detailed
[10:03] <crimsun_> I can't possibly troubleshoot with that.
[10:03] <Frogzoo> crimsun_: treble, but no bass
[10:03] <crimsun_> "my tooth hurts"
[10:03] <Frogzoo> or bass, but no treble?
[10:03] <crimsun_> "well ... how and where does it hurt?"
[10:03] <crimsun_> "uh I don't know"
[10:03] <bulltitan> well all the sound blasters live 24 bits are cheaps audigys and are not fully detected by ubuntu by all means
[10:04] <ecker> When I apt-get remove zsnes, and reinstall it< why does it still has the exact same config, I need to completely remove it and reinstall it fresh
[10:04] <albacker> Guys what is used to read .ram or .rm files
[10:04] <Bazzi> ecker try purge
[10:04] <RedHairedMan> hey guys, I'm having trouble with setting my LCD monitor's refresh rate to work with X.  Any safe settings?
[10:04] <nickrud> ecker, sudo apt-get remove --purge zsnes to remove configs
[10:04] <crimsun_> bulltitan: there's no such thing as "not fully detected". A driver is loaded, and the card either functions or doesn't function.
[10:04] <snoops> realplayer codecs albacker
[10:04] <garryfre> I use an amp on mine, it just means I dial up the volume and if I forget to turn it on and boot something else, I get plaster on the floor
[10:04] <Flannel> albacker: ram and rm are real media (real player) stuff
[10:04] <xice> RedHairedMan, usually 60Hz is ok
[10:05] <bulltitan> more over creative is so lazy putting out a new driver even for windows that it won't be a good idea to check their wbsite
[10:05] <m_0_r_0_n> mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail: Depends: mozilla-thunderbird (< <IP_ADDRESS>.0) but <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu6.06 is to be installed E: Broken packages - How can I resolve this problem?
[10:05] <albacker> !realplayer
[10:05] <ubotu> methinks realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:05] <RedHairedMan> it doesn't work here, and I can't get X started
[10:05] <crimsun_> bulltitan: / garryfre: what would assist would be the output from ``amixer'' pastebinned.
[10:05] <jimmy89> HOW DO I USE Network-manager to save a key in key#2?
[10:05] <jimmy89> HOW DO I USE Network-manager to save a key in key#2?
[10:05] <jimmy89> HOW DO I USE Network-manager to save a key in key#2?
[10:05] <jimmy89> HOW DO I USE Network-manager to save a key in key#2?
[10:05] <jimmy89> HOW DO I USE Network-manager to save a key in key#2?
[10:05] <jimmy89> HOW DO I USE Network-manager to save a key in key#2?
[10:05] <jimmy89> HOW DO I USE Network-manager to save a key in key#2?
[10:05] <jimmy89> HOW DO I USE Network-manager to save a key in key#2?
[10:05] <jimmy89> HOW DO I USE Network-manager to save a key in key#2?
[10:05] <jimmy89> HOW DO I USE Network-manager to save a key in key#2?
[10:05] <crimsun_> oh my deity
[10:05] <albacker> thanks snoops Flannel
[10:05] <bulltitan> gosh!
[10:05] <Matthewv> jimmy89, stop
[10:06] <_nano_> RedHairedMan: could you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[10:06] <RedHairedMan> the automatic settings kill X11, and when I tried setting the horizontal refresh to 30-75 and vertical to 50-75 it still fails to work
[10:06] <crimsun_> jimmy89: do not EVER do that again.
[10:06] <m_0_r_0_n> ./kick jimmy89
[10:06] <bulltitan> ok crimsun_ i'll try that
[10:06] <RedHairedMan> unfortunately no, I'm on a seperate computer, but I can give you any info you like out of it
[10:07] <garryfre> I believe that is alsamixer I can try to help on that.
[10:07] <crimsun_> garryfre: no, just amixer
[10:07] <RedHairedMan> I'm using the vesa driver on a generic monitor with 1280x1024 and 1024x768 res options enabled
[10:07] <pablozzz> hi guys
[10:07] <RedHairedMan> my card is a radeon x800
[10:07] <garryfre> hmmm, never heard of amixer
[10:07] <pablozzz> I can' using "rmvb" under mplayer :(
[10:07] <RedHairedMan> when X tries to start it puts out no signal to my monitor
[10:07] <crimsun_> jimmy89: if someone doesn't respond immediately, please be patient. Also, try the ubuntu-users mailing list and/or ubuntuforums.
[10:08] <jimmy89> thank you for removing the ban, sorry for the spam
[10:08] <jimmy89> just getting annoyed.
[10:08] <crimsun_> annoyed is absolutely no excuse to irritate volunteers.
[10:08] <Madpilot> jimmy89, and annoying everyone else in the channel is supposed to help *how*?
[10:08] <cafuego> Well, annoying everyone else is not a useful strategy for requesting help.
[10:08] <pablozzz> wich plugin i have to using
[10:09] <bulltitan> we all get at some point but it is a good idea to wait and use sarcasm :P
[10:09] <garryfre> Mere oppression makes even riteous folks act crazy.
[10:09] <Jaak_> Since ubuntu 6 the screensaver options menu has changed. I can't configure any screensaver, now what?
[10:09] <cafuego> righteous?
[10:10] <Madpilot> Jaak_, that's because Dapper is using gnome-screensaver, and it currently sucks.
[10:10] <garryfre> I noticed that. Yeah, my spelling stinks
[10:10] <Matthewv> Jaak_, you could replace gnome-screensaver with xscreensaver
[10:10] <m_0_r_0_n> Is it possible to reinstall the older version of thunderbird???   mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail: Depends: mozilla-thunderbird (< <IP_ADDRESS>.0) but <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu6.06 is to be installed E: Broken packages
[10:10] <RedHairedMan> what do I do when X11 isn't outputting a signal to my monitor?
[10:10] <Madpilot> Jaak_, install xscreensaver to get the configs back
[10:10] <nickrud> opression?
[10:10] <bulltitan> why the hell i sold my sound blaster 5.1 :(:(:(:(
[10:10] <Flannel> m_0_r_0_n: sounds like you need to update your sources.  if -enigmail is in the repositories anyway
[10:11] <garryfre> I installed xscreensaver and stil no options.
[10:11] <garryfre> er confiugre
[10:11] <KyoLptp`> Can I get a link to the Xgl tutorial for intel cards?
[10:11] <m_0_r_0_n> Flannel, the sources are updated
[10:11] <cafuego> m_0_r_0_n: 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird=<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu2'
[10:11] <dbzdeath> this is probably a stupid question... but how do i install xubuntu from the live cd?
[10:11] <nickrud> !xgl
[10:11] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:11] <Geoffrey3> ok, repeating....is there somewhere I can find a sample sources.list to make sure I have everything up to date and correct?
[10:11] <m_0_r_0_n> cafuego, thanks
[10:11] <cafuego> Flannel: The reps are broken
[10:11] <nickrud> xgl should be /dev/null
[10:12] <cafuego> Flannel: enigmail hasn't been updated, but thunderbird has => broken.
[10:12] <bulltitan> i have had a few issues with ubuntu but i think it is the future of linux to ex-windows users
[10:12] <Flannel> cafuego: alright, I'll keep that in mind
[10:12] <nickrud> Geoffrey2, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 for dapper, very nice one
[10:12] <garryfre> Options if I recall, or you can install the xbuntu destop from symantic package manager after.
[10:13] <Flannel> dbzdeath: should be a menu item or something (I've never done the liveCD, sorry)
[10:13] <nickrud> Jaak_, /msg (you need to register for this to work)
[10:13] <garryfre> You do /say username if I am correct.
[10:13] <cafuego> Mind you, just not clicking "Apply" when the package manager tells you it wants to remove enigmal should do for now.
[10:13] <spacey> Jaak_: just open a private message window/query
[10:14] <spacey> by clicking or typing /query <nick>
[10:14] <garryfre> Yeah, you can right-click on the user name and get a channel
[10:14] <RedHairedMan> what do I do when X11 isn't outputting a signal to my monitor?
[10:14] <snoops> this is after you've changed settings RedHairedMan?
[10:14] <nickrud> good night, all.
[10:14] <Matthewv> would it be a good idea to remove the errors=remount-ro from my fstab, cause my fs gets mounted ro too often?
[10:15] <garryfre> First, change to the standard vesa driver in xorg.conf It might help you at least get graphics until you get it resolved.
[10:15] <RedHairedMan> both before and after
[10:15] <RedHairedMan> and I'm using vesa
[10:16] <KyoLptp`> thanks, nickrud
[10:16] <garryfre> Hmmm, Not sure.
[10:17] <bulltitan> was i crazy or i see pictures of genome lazuli?
[10:17] <RedHairedMan> I suspect it's my refresh rate, but I can't seem to find any settings that work with my LCD.  I know 1280x1024 @ 75Hz works under Windows
[10:17] <garryfre> Might look at xorg.conf in /etc/X11 to see if you find any clues.
[10:17] <RedHairedMan> I did, that's where I set myself up to use vesa and set the max refresh rate on both horizontal and vertical to be 75, still doesn't work.
[10:17] <garryfre> What kind of lcd do you have?
[10:17] <RedHairedMan> an Impression.  Generic old LCD monitor
[10:18] <garryfre> Hmmm, I bet the refrsh range is too high and the lcd is shutting down to avoid frying self.
[10:18] <bulltitan> nope i'm not crazy but not sure abaut what that really is
[10:19] <bulltitan> sorry about
[10:19] <RedHairedMan> garryfre: nope, just checked, it's within it's ranges
[10:19] <banie> i want to ask here
[10:19] <banie> can or not?
[10:20] <Troglodyt> refresh should be 60 for lcd's??
[10:20] <Flannel> banie: yep.  just ask.
[10:20] <RedHairedMan> 60 didn't work, neither did 75
[10:20] <RedHairedMan> but works fine under Windows
[10:20] <Hoxzer> ^^ windows
[10:20] <RedHairedMan> it worked under 5.10, so I don't know what changed
[10:20] <jimmy89> what is a good play to use to play mp3 files?
[10:21] <Hoxzer> xmms
[10:21] <polpak> !tell jimmy89 about mp3
[10:21] <banie> xmms
[10:21] <pablozzz> amarok
[10:21] <banie> usually
[10:21] <bulltitan> xmms by default but amarok works as well
[10:21] <snoops> amarok definitely.. it's the reason I switched to linux for my desktop
[10:21] <CrippsFX> !tell banie about questions
[10:21] <pablozzz> yhmm
[10:21] <garryfre> syntax is like vertrefresh = ##.# - ##.# and horizrefresh. There is some sort of command to reconfigure the xserver. Do you have two connections? Perhaps the x is sending output to a monitor that's not hooked up?
[10:21] <RedHairedMan> already tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:22] <RedHairedMan> and tried the other output
[10:22] <bulltitan> i only use the preview option of nautilus to hear mp3 :P
[10:22] <garryfre> Hmm.
[10:22] <bulltitan> cheap but fast
[10:22] <RedHairedMan> I have a gremlin...
[10:22] <RedHairedMan> a nasty little gremlin in my system :(
[10:22] <garryfre> what vid card do yo have?
[10:22] <jammy> how can I make ubuntu to display Chinese font?
[10:22] <banie> how to install samba on ubuntu?
[10:22] <RedHairedMan> Radeon x800
[10:22] <RedHairedMan> PCI-Express
[10:23] <banie> by using apt-get?
[10:23] <pablozzz> apt-get install samba
[10:23] <jammy> who can tell me how to display Chinese in ubuntu??
[10:24] <banie> i'll try now
[10:24] <polpak> RedHairedMan: did you install your drivers already?
[10:24] <garryfre> There are some fonts for various languages in the symantec package manager.
[10:24] <banie> banie@ubuntu:~$ apt-get install samba
[10:24] <banie> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[10:24] <banie> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[10:24] <banie> what happen?
[10:24] <KenSentMe> banie: use sudo apt-get
[10:24] <pablozzz> su apt-get
[10:24] <suprchris> I'm trying to install the w32codecs but i'm having a problem can someone help me?
[10:24] <snoops> sudo..
[10:25] <RedHairedMan> no, I can't get that far
[10:25] <polpak> suprchris: just ask your question
[10:25] <RedHairedMan> I just installed Ubuntu about 30 minutes ago
[10:25] <KenSentMe> suprchris: what problem do you have
[10:25] <pablozzz> banie: install lisa, too
[10:25] <polpak> RedHairedMan: are you using the vesa drivers?
[10:25] <KenSentMe> !tell banie about root
[10:25] <RedHairedMan> polpak: yep, vesa
[10:25] <suprchris> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[10:25] <RedHairedMan> it tried ati at first, they don't work with my card
[10:25] <polpak> suprchris: close synaptic
[10:26] <KenSentMe> suprchris: have you opened synaptic
[10:26] <jimmy89> so what mp3 player do you recommened?
[10:26] <suprchris> it's not open
[10:26] <suprchris> no
[10:26] <KenSentMe> suprchris: or the update tool
[10:26] <pablozzz> xmms
[10:26] <suprchris> i used wget-c
[10:26] <garryfre> Might open symantec and search for ati stuff.
[10:26] <pablozzz> xmms or amarok
[10:26] <pablozzz> amrok is better for soutcast radio..
[10:26] <banie> already install samba
[10:26] <suprchris> how do i close the updatetool
[10:26] <banie> root@ubuntu:/home/banie# service smb start
[10:26] <banie> bash: service: command not found
[10:26] <KenSentMe> suprchris: is it open?
[10:26] <pablozzz> :)
[10:27] <suprchris> i don't know
[10:27] <KenSentMe> suprchris: try opening synaptic
[10:27] <Hit3k> pablozzz, i cant get music to play in amarok so i use XMMS
[10:27] <pablozzz> why ?
[10:28] <pablozzz> i use amarok for radio.. and xmms for mp3
[10:28] <Hit3k> ah
[10:28] <banie> bash: service: command not found
[10:28] <Hit3k> do you need to install a codec to play mp3s in amarok?
[10:28] <suprchris> hey thanks synaptic was opened stupid me!
[10:28] <RedHairedMan> okay, using the CLI, how can I get Ubuntu to recognize a USB wireless adapter (I know it's supported natively) that wasn't there when I installed Ubuntu?
[10:28] <KenSentMe> suprchris: thought so
[10:28] <pd273> Hit3k: you are right
[10:28] <Geoffrey3> banie, just a thought....anything apt-get related will crash and burn if you happen to have the Synaptic Package Manager open at the same time....
[10:29] <suprchris> once it's done doing it's thing is it really done or do i restart
[10:29] <KenSentMe> banie: /etc/init.d/samba restart
[10:29] <garryfre> !ndiswrapper
[10:29] <ubotu> it has been said that ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[10:29] <snoops> Hit3k yes..
[10:29] <KenSentMe> suprchris: it should work right away i think
[10:29] <NET||abuse> i want drivers for my radeon mobility 7500.... but that aint never gonna happen is it :(
[10:29] <suprchris> ok thanks
[10:29] <RedHairedMan> I don't need ndis wrapper, I just need to activate the wireless
[10:29] <pablozzz> "service" not command ubuntu
[10:29] <snoops> Hit3k http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:30] <garryfre> wireless keyboard? Mouse?
[10:30] <banie> thank
[10:30] <banie> all done
[10:30] <RedHairedMan> wireless adapter, wi-fi
[10:30] <pd273> NET||abuse: the present driver is not working properly for my Mobility 9200
[10:30] <RedHairedMan> then I can apt-get the fglrx driver
[10:30] <banie> so..how to play mpeg file in ubuntu?
[10:30] <pablozzz> mplayer is teh best
[10:30] <KenSentMe> !tell banie about restricted
[10:30] <pablozzz> with win codecs
[10:30] <KenSentMe> banie: read that
[10:31] <czer323> Does anyone know if the default drivers for Ubuntu are Madwifi-ng?  Also, it seems that they're compiled into the kernel.  Can anyone confirm this?
[10:31] <NET||abuse> pd273, yeh, the fglrx doesn't cover earlier that 8xxx and the open source just doesn't get direct rendering working.. and i want to try out xgl on my laptop :(
[10:31] <garryfre> Device manager under system/adminstration might help
[10:31] <pd273> I get a wiered screen when I load the fglrx driver
[10:31] <RedHairedMan> garryfre: I don't have X11 still
[10:31] <garryfre> Ouch
[10:31] <pd273> NET||abuse: did you get 3d renderign to work with the present driver
[10:31] <RedHairedMan> garryfre: exactly :)
[10:31] <banie> ic..
[10:32] <NET||abuse> pd273, the  open source "radeon" driver... heck no
[10:32] <suprchris> i have a question about a drive on my desktop
[10:32] <pablozzz> banie: use mplayer
[10:32] <banie> i dw the mplayer and it .rpm
[10:32] <pd273> NET||abuse: I got better performance with the "ati" driver, and am presently using it
[10:32] <suprchris> it's labeled sda1 but i don't have the right permissions to view it,  what is it how do i see into it?
[10:32] <banie> i use alien change it to .deb
[10:33] <NET||abuse> "ati" ?? eh? :) interesting :P actually i havn't tried with dapper yet
[10:33] <garryfre> I've frequently had issues with xserver not working if I tried installing ubunto to ta drive that ins't listed in bios as the first drive.
[10:33] <garryfre> !ati
[10:33] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[10:33] <banie> how to install
[10:33] <pd273> NET||abuse: am on Dapper LTS
[10:33] <Madpilot> banie, use the mplayer that Ubuntu has in the Multiverse repository
[10:33] <Flannel> banie: why not just use the mplayer in the repository?
[10:33] <stingher> ciao
[10:33] <MusiFreq> ib xubuntu, is there a way to set mplayer to auto play dvd's when inserted like ubuntu can?
[10:33] <stingher> italy?
[10:33] <pablozzz> banie: you have to change source.list
[10:33] <czer323> !xubuntu
[10:33] <ubotu> xubuntu is, like, Ubuntu using Xfce instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://www.xubuntu.org
[10:33] <RedHairedMan> garryfre: it's my only SATA drive
[10:34] <stingher> ubuntu italy pease??
[10:34] <Madpilot> !it
[10:34] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:34] <stingher> please
[10:34] <stingher> ok
[10:34] <garryfre> ok, I hope that url will help that ye get when ye do !ati in xchat.
[10:34] <stingher> bye
[10:35] <banie> Synaptic Package Manager?
[10:35] <CrippsFX> garryfre, it's not just in xchat ... it's in any irc client ....
[10:35] <banie> how?
[10:35] <CrippsFX> garryfre, it's like doing this:
[10:35] <CrippsFX> ubotu, ping
[10:35] <ubotu> pong
[10:35] <pablozzz> q
[10:35] <garryfre> CrippsFX Yep
[10:35] <pablozzz> q
[10:35] <KenSentMe> banie: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[10:35] <pablozzz> !
[10:35] <ubotu> pablozzz: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:35] <banie> ubotu, ping
[10:35] <czer323> That's pretty normal for the main window.
[10:35] <CrippsFX> !tell pablozzz about questions
[10:36] <RedHairedMan> proper formatting for horizsync and vertrefresh are just the words with no quotes, a space, and then 30-60 or 50-100 with no quotes either, right?
[10:36] <RedHairedMan> or do the values need quotes?
[10:36] <czer323> Does anyone know if the default drivers for Ubuntu are Madwifi-ng?  Also, it seems that they're compiled into the kernel.  Can anyone confirm this?
[10:36] <banie> and then ..?
[10:36] <CrippsFX> RedHairedMan, no quotes
[10:36] <RedHairedMan> didn't think so
[10:36] <pablozzz> one minute banne
[10:36] <banie> no response
[10:36] <RedHairedMan> and the hyphen is acceptable?
[10:36] <pablozzz> help
[10:36] <garryfre> I included the double quotes for my xorg and it worked
[10:36] <pablozzz> ?
[10:36] <CrippsFX> !tell pablozzz about questions
[10:37] <pablozzz> what add files for ircII screen
[10:37] <pablozzz> ???
[10:37] <garryfre> yes, the hyphen is a range indicator
[10:37] <RedHairedMan> just wanted to be sure my formatting wasn't off :(
[10:37] <RedHairedMan> hope it was
[10:37] <RedHairedMan> hoped
[10:37] <pablozzz> waht cat files ...
[10:37] <pablozzz> sorry
[10:37] <KenSentMe> banie: what are you trying to install?
[10:38] <CrippsFX> pablozzz, sorry ... what is your question?
[10:38] <banie> mplayer
[10:38] <pablozzz> bannie: ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiversion
[10:38] <KenSentMe> use synaptic for that
[10:38] <KenSentMe> !tell banie about sources
[10:38] <pablozzz> add it to source.list
[10:38] <NET||abuse> hmm, system seems to recognise the graphics card as Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 9000]
[10:39] <NET||abuse> but i was certain is was 7500 mobility
[10:39] <kholerabbi> How do I make firefox only accessible with a password - like change its permissions?
[10:39] <Flannel> kholerabbi: just firefox?
[10:39] <pablozzz> crippsfx: what i can view file in ircII
[10:39] <pablozzz> ??
[10:39] <garryfre> Sleepy time. Was hoping i could return the favor for the help I got earlier before my braindeadness called me to bed. Gnight all and good luck.
[10:39] <pablozzz> text-file
[10:40] <CrippsFX> pablozzz, I don't think you can view files *in* ircII ... you have to download the file and read it using cat, or have the file posted to a pastebin and read it from there.
[10:40] <pablozzz> quit
[10:40] <kholerabbi> Flannel: Yep - Actually what would be best is if I could just block the prefernces and extensions - but blocking firefox is fine
[10:41] <banie> done..
[10:41] <banie> thank to all
[10:41] <pablozzz> i can view text-file on the irc screen
[10:41] <KenSentMe> !ubuntu
[10:41] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntu was a free GNU/Linux distribution. More at http://www.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[10:41] <banie> already install mplayer
[10:41] <Flannel> kholerabbi: huh?
[10:41] <banie> huhu
[10:41] <KenSentMe> banie: great
[10:41] <pablozzz> bannie :)
[10:41] <czer323> Does anyone know if the default drivers for Ubuntu are Madwifi-ng?  Also, it seems that they're compiled into the kernel.  Can anyone confirm this?
[10:42] <CrippsFX> pablozzz, there could be 2 reaons for that ... 1)the file is on the IRC server and your client reads that file, or 2)you have a plugin that I don't know about.
[10:42] <RedHairedMan> Oh for the love of...
[10:42] <RedHairedMan> you'll never believe this
[10:42] <RedHairedMan> on a whim, I change from the vesa driver (which always worked in the past) to the radeon driver (which NEVER worked on ANY distro)...and X11 started fine...
[10:42] <banie> try install apache right now
[10:42] <KenSentMe> !tell banie about lamp
[10:42] <Flannel> !tell banie about lamp
[10:43] <banie> still connecting
[10:43] <KenSentMe> Flannel: i win
[10:43] <CrippsFX> czer323, I think that the "default" modules are the ones that probing decides you need ... mine automatically installed the bcm43xx module, yours should load the one you need.
[10:43] <Flannel> KenSentMe: as long as he gets helped, go ahead and win ;)
[10:43] <RedHairedMan> I think I need a drink now
[10:43] <m_0_r_0_n> How do I get OpenGL support. Google Earth for Linux is not able to start!
[10:44] <KenSentMe> Flannel: you are right, just kidding
[10:44] <czer323> CrippsFx> the one i 'need' is subjective to what i"m doing. ;)  I need the madwifi-ng version, and it doesn't seem like this is.
[10:44] <RedHairedMan> stiff...and copius
[10:44] <KenSentMe> !start
[10:44] <ubotu> KenSentMe: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:44] <czer323> CrippsFx> I'm just not savvy with this stuff yet.
[10:44] <val_> ciao
[10:44] <val_> exit
[10:44] <RedHairedMan> thanks guys
[10:44] <KenSentMe> !gettingstarted
[10:44] <ubotu> KenSentMe: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:44] <RedHairedMan> I'ma go get plastered and rant at my machine some more
[10:45] <KenSentMe> Is there a ubotu message that points people to introductions on using ubuntu?
[10:45] <KenSentMe> Like installing etc.
[10:45] <CrippsFX> czer323, well, the module you need is dependant on the hardware. you can't change modules based on what you're doing.
[10:46] <wahjava> hi channel
[10:46] <zabgone> could anyone give me some good alternatives for look@lan i can install under ubuntu ?
[10:46] <m_0_r_0_n> How do I get OpenGL started?
[10:46] <wahjava> can anybody explain how to configure scanner in Ubuntu
[10:46] <czer323> CrippsFx> From what I understand, there are 2 versions of madwifi.  The old and the new.  NG is the newer.  So, i want the newer module, if THIS is not already the newer one.  Again, I'm just looking to verify if it is or ISN"T the older/new.
[10:46] <wahjava> Breezy
[10:46] <leshaste> anyone see how to hear the sound at http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/~algorith/sounds/lec19-5.html ?
[10:46] <Flannel> !tell wahjava about scanner
[10:47] <wahjava> its an Multifunctional Device
[10:47] <wahjava> HPLJ3050
[10:47] <KenSentMe> !opengl
[10:47] <ubotu> KenSentMe: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:47] <KenSentMe> hmm
[10:47] <DarthMorlock> ! OpenGL
[10:47] <ubotu> DarthMorlock: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:47] <banie> !lamp
[10:48] <CrippsFX> !tell czer323 about madwifi
[10:48] <CrippsFX> czer323, hope that helps
[10:49] <m_0_r_0_n> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=opengl&titlesearch=Titles  0 results of about 11200 pages. (0.83 seconds) ?????
[10:50] <czer323> CrippsFX> Actually, I've read it before, and it states that it's for the beta, and the author "expects that madwifi + nm + WPA will be available in Dapper as soon as it is released."  Sorry Cripps ;)  I'll just keep posting the question everyonce and awhile and hope for a definative answer.
[10:52] <CrippsFX> czer323, based on what I've read on that wiki, is that it is madwifi that ships with dapper, not madwifi-ng
[10:52] <czer323> CrippsFx> considering that it was written pre-dapper... It's uncertain.
[10:53] <KenSentMe> zabgone: maybe you can search the packages with synaptic
[10:53] <CrippsFX> czer323, there is another way to find out ... read the dapper release notes.
[10:53] <suprchris> can someone help me to access a drive on my desktop
[10:53] <zabgone> kensentme: if i know the name of an alternative program i could yes :)
[10:53] <CrippsFX> because madwifi is going to be different in dapper than it was in breezy, so it would be mentioned in the notes
[10:54] <czer323> CrippsFX> Any idea where I'd find them?  Else I'll just google them.
[10:54] <higen> is the debian repository more updated then the ubuntu one?
[10:54] <higen> with the lastest and greatest?
[10:54] <suprchris> I need help accessing a drive can someone help me?
[10:54] <CrippsFX> google is probably your best bet
[10:55] <k31th> higen: depends on what version of debian
[10:55] <higen> k31th: well.. has to be the unstable branche
[10:55] <wert45> Hi all, is there a chance to get ubunto running on a pda?
[10:56] <wahjava> Flannel, I'm back, sorry for disconnecting in between
[10:56] <banie> install kde right now for karamba
[10:56] <higen> not stable.. i know that stable branch is back to stoneage on debian.. using 2.0 kernel and xfree :P
[10:56] <banie> hehe
[10:56] <CrippsFX> generally, mixing debian and ubuntu repos is not a good idea ... they have *different* dependencies
[10:56] <suprchris> how do i access a drive when i don't have the right permissions
[10:56] <higen> thats why i am considering going over to debian.. anyway
[10:56] <wahjava> I already have HP LIP on Ubuntu Breezy
[10:56] <CrippsFX> suprchris, what EXACTLY are you trying to do?
[10:56] <higen> after one month i need to unistall linux.. thats actually rather disapointing
[10:56] <k31th> higen: ubuntu is based on deb
[10:57] <k31th> so go figure
[10:57] <k31th> higen: really.
[10:57] <suprchris> there is a drive labeled sda1 on my desktop but i can't read it due to incorrect file permissions
[10:57] <k31th> because you cant use it?
[10:57] <CrippsFX> suprchris, that would be your usb key, correct?
[10:57] <wahjava> can anybody help me in configuring scanner (HPLJ3050) in Ubuntu "Breezy"
[10:57] <higen> yes.. after a hardlock.. and i had to turn on and off the button.. i got a error on the harddrive.. which is ok.. fschk fixed it.. but after that.. things started to act weird..
[10:58] <higen> i got some weird errors.. and things are just messy
[10:58] <suprchris> well i don't know i have a usb drive but it's labeled as I know it to be
[10:58] <suprchris> i don't know what sda1 is
[10:58] <Hit3k> amarok still doesnt play my songs When i play one it just keeps changing songs until it finishes the playlist
[10:58] <suprchris> by the way i'm running a dual boot sys
[10:59] <wahjava> HP Laserjet 3050 is in supported devices list of HPLIP
[10:59] <snoops> you may need to reinstall amarok Hit3k..
[10:59] <CrippsFX> suprchris, okay. well, you could either try "chmod a+rw /path/to/mounted/drive/ -R" or, do it a little bit dirtier, unmount the driver, do "chmod a+rw /dev/sda1" and then remount the drive.
[10:59] <Hit3k> snoops, maybe
[11:00] <snoops> when I installed all my gstreamer packages to play every format on the planet I needed to reinstall amarok.. maybe I just had to reboot...didn't try it since reinstalling is so simple
[11:00] <suprchris> only root can unmount
[11:00] <higen> darn.. that filezilla ftp server is rather quick
[11:00] <CrippsFX> suprchris, but you would have to run those commands as "sudo"
[11:00] <wahjava> can anybody help me in configuring scanner (HPLJ3050) in Ubuntu "Breezy" ??
[11:01] <suprchris> alright well bare with me I'm just learning this command stuff
[11:01] <suprchris> i'm a hardcore win user whose trying to use his brain more
[11:01] <CrippsFX> suprchris, more power to ya ... when you get used to it, the command line is an EXTREMELY useful tool.
[11:01] <ROBOd> hello people
[11:02] <wahjava> ROBOd, hi :)
[11:02] <ROBOd> i have vmware 5.5 workstation and I cannot start it under ubuntu dapper
[11:02] <banie> who want to learn LAMP?
[11:02] <banie> go to www.lamphowto.com
[11:02] <CrippsFX> suprchris, that's one of my beefs with windows, is that they should encourage users (especially power users) to take to the CLI
[11:02] <higen> ROBOd you probably need to compile vmware to fit your kernel..
[11:02] <ROBOd> error: /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)
[11:02] <higen> there should be a config script that helps you through that
[11:02] <ROBOd> error continued: /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libbonobo-activation.so.4: undefined symbol: g_get_language_names
[11:03] <suprchris> it says no such file exists
[11:03] <ROBOd> higen: done that already, no probs there
[11:03] <higen> ahh.. ok.
[11:03] <suprchris> did i need to type it differently than you did?
[11:03] <Hit3k> snoops, it says i dont have any audio drivers after i reinstalled
[11:04] <ROBOd> anyone has any ideas?
[11:04] <CrippsFX> suprchris, yeah. the "/path/to/mounted/drive" is supposed to be "/mnt/mounted folder" or "/media/drive" or something like that. give me the output of "ls /media"
[11:04] <banie> nop
[11:04] <CrippsFX> suprchris, brb ... I'll be back in about 5 mins.
[11:05] <banie> can ubuntu write ntfs?
[11:05] <suprchris> cdrom cdrom0 cdrom1 floppy floppy0 sda1 sdb1
[11:05] <banie> and see in folder?
[11:05] <snoops> Hit3k did you install the ones it mentioned in the resitrctedformats wiki?
[11:05] <Hit3k> yes
[11:05] <kbh> can ubuntuwrite ntfs
[11:05] <ic56> banie: NTFS write is not safe.  Nonetheless, an experimental version is supported.
[11:06] <xice> whats the command to get the wizard that configure xorg.conf???
[11:06] <ic56> banie: rumour has it, that this version *won't* trash your filesystem -- most of the time.
[11:06] <banie> how to see ntfs in ubuntu
[11:06] <davvyk> hi im having a few problems with the grub loader and ubuntu can anyone give me a hand?
[11:06] <banie> i know that
[11:06] <BlueDevil> any way i can get a gnome-centric application to support webdav in kubuntu?
[11:06] <kbh> which is that exp version
[11:06] <snoops> davvyk :)
[11:07] <ic56> banie: read NTFS is supported.  Download and run this script<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:07] <davvyk> cheers snoops. basicaly ive installed ubuntu to my external hard drive but the grub loader doesnt show it just boots straight tru to windows
[11:07] <ic56> banie: It will setup your /etc/fstab and mountpoints in /media so you can see your NTFS filesystems in Places> Computer
[11:08] <snoops> yeah are you booting from the external device?
[11:08] <banie> how to setup ic56?
[11:08] <ic56> banie:  If you don't supply any flags, it will interactively ask you if you want to enable NTFS write.  Answer no.
[11:08] <emanuelez> hello
[11:08] <brosioz> anyone that have firefox <IP_ADDRESS> could open this link ? i get X.org crashes only with konqueror i can open the url http://www.securityfocus.com/data/vulnerabilities/exploits/sendtest.c
[11:08] <banie> i can see in console
[11:08] <KyoLptp`> How would I go about reversing this, just in case? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068&highlight=aiglx
[11:08] <banie> not in folder..why?
[11:08] <davvyk> i just assumed the grub loader was loaded to the mbr on the internal hard drive.so would show by default
[11:08] <farous> is multiverse supported by ubuntu or is it at the same level as back-ports ??
[11:08] <emanuelez> firefox extensions do not work anymore :(
[11:09] <snoops> davvyk pretty sure it would install itself into the external hdd..
[11:09] <emanuelez> i can install them and they should work on the following firefox restart, but when i do it i get the same message over and over
[11:09] <emanuelez> any hint?
[11:09] <davvyk> ah rite. will ahve a fiddle in the bios n see if i can boot from ma external drive tho have feeling i cant
[11:10] <ic56> banie: point your browser to that URL, and page down to "usage()"  Read the instructions from there on down.  They say to save the file (save-as in your browser) and tell you how to execute.  The script does the rest.  I'm the author of this version, so I can answer questions and help if anything goes wrong.
[11:10] <KyoLptp`> Also, what's the difference between compiz-vanilla and compiz-quinn?
[11:10] <KyoLptp`> !xgl
[11:10] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:10] <ROBOd> someone has vmware running in dapper?
[11:10] <ROBOd> !vmware
[11:10] <ubotu> Please check this out, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare adjusting kernel versions to your own, to get the number replace the numbers with " `uname -r" The ` is a Backtic
[11:10] <snoops> yeah might be fun davvyk
[11:10] <banie> ok
[11:11] <davvyk> thanks alot snoops  il go hae a look
[11:11] <snoops> :)
[11:11] <CrippsFX> suprchris, k. I'm back
[11:11] <suprchris> k
[11:11] <suprchris> cdrom  cdrom0  cdrom1  floppy  floppy0  sda1  sdb1
[11:11] <suprchris> that's what's in ls /media
[11:12] <CrippsFX> suprchris, okay, try : sudo chmod a+rw /path/to/mounted/drive/ -R
[11:12] <CrippsFX> suprchris, er wait :P
[11:12] <banie> where to write that script?
[11:12] <ic56> banie: anywhere
[11:12] <CrippsFX> suprchris, okay, try : sudo chmod a+rw /media/sda1 -R
[11:12] <kbh> i've got an ubuntu install; but how can login as root user
[11:12] <emanuelez> is anybody else facing this problem with firefox?
[11:13] <suprchris> wow what a screenfull
[11:13] <CrippsFX> !tell kbh about sudo
[11:13] <suprchris> now i know what that drive is
[11:13] <suprchris> it's my primary partition
[11:13] <suprchris> of windows
[11:13] <CrippsFX> suprchris, there ya go. I take it you run a SCSI drive then?
[11:14] <suprchris> sata
[11:14] <kbh> quite new to linux no idea on sudo
[11:14] <suprchris> hey i've been there
[11:14] <suprchris> i know what it stands for
[11:14] <suprchris> super user do
[11:14] <suprchris> a shortcut to becoming root
[11:14] <CrippsFX> suprchris, there ya go ... I guess SATA registers as a SCSI drive, just like a USB hard drive or pen drive will.
[11:14] <kbh> so any clue on root user and pwd
[11:15] <CrippsFX> kbh, well, if you read the URL that ubotu gave you, you'll be able to find out more about sudo :)
[11:15] <suprchris> if you set up normally the root password is the same as the one you made at start up
[11:15] <samuli> kbh, yeah, check out theurl.
[11:15] <kbh> ok letme try
[11:15] <CrippsFX> kbh, and you'll find out what you're asking for.
[11:15] <QPAD|war-away> !pastebin
[11:15] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[11:16] <CrippsFX> I hate it when someone gives some info, and the person recieving it takes a look at the links and says "nope ... that's not what I need ... tell me what I need ..."
[11:16] <NET||abuse>  hmm, i'm running a radeon m7 mobility, now it's working on the "ati" driver, and direct rendering is working... should i try to work with xgl or aiglx?
[11:16] <CrippsFX> NET||abuse, aiglx is for Fedora Core
[11:17] <webmind> but this is also called a communication error :)
[11:17] <NET||abuse> it is? i knew it was part of fedora core release, but it's inlcuded in the ubuntu wiki entry as suitable for systems running on the open source drivers
[11:17] <suprchris> you know, crippsfx, I've spent like 10years learning one OS that it's really weird to hop into another.
[11:17] <suprchris> I appreciate your help
[11:17] <CrippsFX> webmind, that's the flip side of the coin ... but to figure out if it's irrelevant, it requires actually loading the link and reading
[11:18] <webmind> CrippsFX, usually yes
[11:18] <CrippsFX> suprchris, it's no problem. I know the feeling :)
[11:18] <CrippsFX> suprchris, I only switched to linux about 5 years ago.
[11:18] <suprchris> how did you ever grasp the commands
[11:18] <webmind> suprchris, using them
[11:18] <NET||abuse> suprchris, practive
[11:18] <NET||abuse> practice *
[11:18] <CrippsFX> suprchris, practice. use it a lot, try to do "new and interesting" things.
[11:18] <webmind> and reading lost manpages :)
[11:18] <njan> suprchris, up, practice is pretty much it. Which OS are you used to?
[11:19] <webmind> err
[11:19] <NET||abuse> suprchris, also, bash scripting, and other styles of scripting help alot
[11:19] <suprchris> windows
[11:19] <webmind> s/lost/lots/
[11:19] <njan> suprchris, well, windows is the same
[11:19] <suprchris> yeah but it's all point and click
[11:19] <CrippsFX> lol ... I only started reading manpages more this past year ... I sort of used howtos and stuff to get all the commands in here *taps head*
[11:19] <njan> suprchris, there are all sorts of commands in windows that it takes a while to get used to, and in windows the syntax changes from program to program :)
[11:19] <davvyk> can anyone think of a reason y my ubuntu cd doesnt seem to have a option to boot from the cd as opposed to the hd
[11:19] <njan> suprchris, in linux the syntax is consistent and you have man pages. Man pages rock. :)
[11:19] <webmind> CrippsFX, well I only use them to learn more about a command I already know
[11:19] <suprchris> the weirdest thing i had to get used to is the file system
[11:19] <snoops> davvyk you can get a bootable grub cd
[11:19] <NET||abuse> davvyk, that won't be the cd.. that'll be your boot order settings in bios
[11:20] <CrippsFX> webmind, same.
[11:20] <CrippsFX> suprchris, yeah, but once you get used to it, you realize how logical it is.
[11:20] <webmind> and clear.. imho
[11:20] <NET||abuse> suprchris, it's actually remarkably simple idea... way more logical than assigning something so limited as drive letter
[11:20] <davvyk> oh no the disc boots up to the ubuntu menu but it doesnt have a option to just boot live off disc
[11:20] <NET||abuse> letters
[11:20] <CrippsFX> ... unless you're using puppylinux or a non-standard distro ... then you take one look at "ls /" and got WTF?
[11:21] <suprchris> oh how do i change the boot order in grub so that windows comes up first
[11:21] <snoops> should be the first option davvyk
[11:21] <suprchris> i just use it more that's why i ask
[11:21] <suprchris> for now
[11:21] <NET||abuse> suprchris, boot order in grub.. or drive boot order?
[11:21] <webmind> NET||abuse, well atleast it's more close to the truth
[11:21] <snoops> suprchris you'll want to edit your /boot/menu.lst
[11:21] <snoops> err /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:21] <davvyk> that just tried to install. hmmm il have to investigate
[11:21] <suprchris> as it stands ubuntu is the first choice and it auto boots
[11:21] <NET||abuse> ah yeh, then the menu.lst file
[11:22] <suprchris> after like ten secs
[11:22] <NET||abuse> just change the line that says default 0 to default 4 or something
[11:22] <Frogzoo> suprchris: the options are self obvious
[11:22] <NET||abuse> then it'll have windows highlighted in grub instead of your default kernel.
[11:22] <emanuelez> how do i uninstall and reinstall firefox?
[11:22] <suprchris> k i'll look the next time
[11:22] <suprchris> thanks
[11:22] <NET||abuse> sudo apt-get remove firefox
[11:22] <Frogzoo> suprchris: change the options you like, & run 'sudo update-grub'
[11:22] <CrippsFX> and make sure that you have the "prompt" option enabled in the header of the menu.lst file .... and change timeout to 3.
[11:22] <CrippsFX> ;)
[11:22] <CrippsFX> at least those are my preferences :P
[11:23] <CrippsFX> Hallo Tomcat_ , wie geht's ?
[11:23] <Tomcat__> Hi CrippsFX.
[11:24] <emanuelez> NET||abuse: that will also remove gnome-core and gnome-environment
[11:24] <snoops> suprchris if you're new to nix, take a look at http://www.secguru.com/files/linux_file_structure.jpg that single image has helped me out more than anything
[11:24] <cyphase> why are new home directories open to everyone in ubuntu?
[11:24] <NET||abuse> emanuelez, hmm, i don't think it will actually... the dependancies are probably reversed,, so you wold probably have to specify those packages also.
[11:24] <CrippsFX> Tomcat_, sie sind in Stuttgart, ja?
[11:24] <Matthewv> my hdd is giving a lot of errors (eg manual fsck needed) etc. and a few minutes ago a restart and manual fsck took part of /var with it, what would be my best option
[11:25] <emanuelez> NET||abuse: just trying issuing that command and u will see
[11:25] <NET||abuse> cyphase, they shouldn't be... ;S
[11:25] <cyphase> i know
[11:25] <Tomcat__> CrippsFX: correct
[11:25] <cyphase> that's why i'm asking :)
[11:25] <NET||abuse> emanuelez, would rather not just now... reading stuff you know :P
[11:25] <Frogzoo> Matthewv: new hard drive?
[11:26] <Matthewv> Frogzoo, less that a year... probably about 10 months
[11:26] <CrippsFX> cool. Alright ... I'll keep it in english, for the sake of everyone else here ;)
[11:26] <kbh> i don't  know pwd for su and while installing it just asked for creating a new user
[11:26] <Frogzoo> Matthewv: no, I mean that's maybe an option - a new hard drive
[11:27] <emanuelez> NET||abuse: just don't confirm... anyway it won't work. i'll try to delete the .mozilla dir from my home
[11:27] <Matthewv> Frogzoo, what i mean is that now some apps, most notably apt-get, are partly broken, so i can fix it, but its probably going to happen again :( i could reinstall, but that probably wont help in the long run, so you reckon go for a new hard drive?
[11:27] <CrippsFX> kbh, did you read the whole page that I sent you?
[11:28] <Frogzoo> Matthewv: you get foobared file systems for 2 reasons - either power failure, or disk going bad (and in extremely rare cases, driver bugs, but this is a very minor possibility)
[11:28] <NET||abuse> snoops, that picture is class ;) cheers, i've added that to my knowledge base :)
[11:28] <erdanblo> There are any article similar to XglAti in Ubuntu's Wiki?... this is erased... :(
[11:29] <Matthewv> Frogzoo, is there any possibility of getting fsck to mark bad blocks or something like that, and keep going for a while... and is there a way to do a low level hdd check?
[11:29] <NET||abuse> erdanblo, go to #ubuntu-xgl, and the links in the topic are good
[11:29] <Frogzoo> Matthewv: backup your data, & dl your hd manufacturers disk diagnosis s/w - see if the disk tests ok on r/w (ie data destructive tests) - then either replace the disk or reinstall
[11:29] <lw4xl> anyone knopw how to use prelink?
[11:29] <lw4xl> does it work?
[11:29] <snoops> it all makes much more sense to me after studying that image NET||abuse :)
[11:29] <erdanblo> NET||abuse,  Thx
[11:29] <CrippsFX> kbh, because if you DID read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo, then you would KNOW why you don't know the root password. Specifically read the section:Going back to a traditional root account
[11:29] <Matthewv> k thanks Frogzoo I'll see what i can do
[11:30] <Jaak_> anyone know that cool apple tiger rss feed screensaver?
[11:30] <kbh> ko
[11:30] <kbh> ok
[11:30] <Frogzoo> Matthewv: k, gl
[11:30] <EmxBA> can anyone help me with notebook sensors
[11:30] <CrippsFX> "Hi, I'm not going to read any documents you give me. Will you spoonfeed me please?"
[11:30] <NET||abuse> snoops, absolutely... i've always had a rough idea, etc = settings.. var = logs and caches.. and some chroot stuff../bin /boot are all self explanistory..but things like /opt.. and all the subdir breakdowns... NICE
[11:31] <EmxBA> i have notebook, few years ago i've seen temperature 58 celsius in windows :D
[11:31] <CrippsFX> No.
[11:31] <Frogzoo> EmxBA: I doubt it - sensors seem largely borked on dapper
[11:31] <EmxBA> CPU temperature
[11:31] <Jaak_> no one know that cool apple tiger rss feed screensaver?
[11:31] <CrippsFX> NET||abuse, /var also holds servers.
[11:31] <Frogzoo> EmxBA: 58C is nothing !
[11:31] <CrippsFX> my processor is running at 55C right now ...
[11:32] <farous> CrippsFX: are you running amd
[11:32] <CrippsFX> farous, yeah.
[11:32] <snoops> socket a?
[11:32] <farous> and you can install gkrellm worked here perfectly or ksensors if you run kde
[11:32] <EmxBA> and on linux, every distro says that it is always 75
[11:32] <EmxBA> what's the problem
[11:32] <EmxBA> ?
[11:33] <EmxBA> i am running celeron :D
[11:33] <calex> hi all, im running ubuntu in a vmware session from xp, i need to install the vmware tools, i have a tar file and rpm file, but cant get it to install, i installed alien and build essential from synaptic but ./configure says file not found
[11:33] <CrippsFX> EmxBA, ewwww
[11:33] <farous> CrippsFX: they run hot and lol they are driving them hard in linux ;) you should take care of your car not to run it to the ground
[11:33] <EmxBA> it looks like my cpu sensors do not work on any Unix
[11:33] <NET||abuse> ARRRGG,, what's the easy argument to glxgears that gets you fps print out/
[11:33] <EmxBA> just on windows
[11:33] <EmxBA> :D
[11:33] <Matthewv> NET||abuse, --print-fps
[11:33] <EmxBA> but HDD temperature is ok
[11:33] <CrippsFX> farous, yeah ... I switched back to 32 bit so that I wouldn't kill my proc. :P
[11:33] <EmxBA> 48
[11:34] <void^> 48 hddtemp? C?
[11:34] <NET||abuse> Matthewv, doesn't work
[11:34] <CrippsFX> farous, my Celeron was even worse! regular temp of 65 - 68 C
[11:34] <EmxBA> yes
[11:34] <EmxBA> celsius
[11:34] <snoops> uhh a hdd SHOULD NOT be 48C
[11:34] <rixxon> why is it, the right password logs you in instantly, the wrong one takes several seconds to be verified as wrong?
[11:34] <void^> EmxBA: that's unhealthy for your data. very unhealthy.
[11:34] <Bazzi> anything below or equal to 70C is fine
[11:34] <farous> CrippsFX: there was a package that will reduce control the freq of your pc. it is normally set to agressive other setting helped forgot the package name though. perhaps powernd am not sure
[11:35] <Bazzi> (for CPU)
[11:35] <EmxBA> this is what i've seen on windows: hdd 46-50, cpu 58, motherboard 42
[11:35] <EmxBA> is that ok
[11:35] <Bazzi> hdd could be cooler
[11:35] <CrippsFX> farous, mine's set to "userspace" ... 800MHz
[11:35] <Matthewv> NET||abuse, there is a nother option, but i cant remember it.. it basically is something like i accept this is not a benchmark
[11:35] <void^> hdd is either incorrect or critical
[11:35] <snoops> motherboard sounds too hot, and hdd's should be a lot cooler
[11:35] <snoops> I freak out when they're 30C
[11:35] <EmxBA> hdd is correct
[11:35] <lw4xl> anyone know of a xubuntu site that will help me improve it?
[11:35] <EmxBA> when i start my pc it is 26 celsius
[11:35] <EmxBA> and now it is 46
[11:35] <snoops> fans..buy fans
[11:35] <CrippsFX> farous, it does make sense that it's warmer though ... it *is* a laptop .. everything is close together.
[11:35] <EmxBA> hdd
[11:35] <void^> EmxBA: add a fan. do it now.
[11:35] <Matthewv> NET||abuse, glxgears --this-is-not-a-benchmark
[11:36] <farous> CrippsFX: amd run hot it is natural and a prob too
[11:36] <EmxBA> this is a laptop, void
[11:36] <EmxBA> "!
[11:36] <EmxBA> !
[11:36] <ubotu> EmxBA: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:36] <NET||abuse> Matthewv, yeh, that's the one i can half remember.. but i know there's a si mple version
[11:36] <void^> EmxBA: ouch.
[11:36] <EmxBA> np
[11:36] <EmxBA> do you know a good webiste about linux sensors :D
[11:36] <Matthewv> NET||abuse, -printfps
[11:36] <CrippsFX> farous, yeah, it is. When  have money (i.e. in 3 years) imma buy a centrino laptop ... quad core if they have them by then.
[11:36] <farous> mine hover around 55 -60 if low load 45
[11:36] <Matthewv> NET||abuse, sry, it wasnt' -- it was -
[11:36] <CrippsFX> EmxBA, google lmsensors
[11:36] <EmxBA> for laptops :D
[11:36] <NET||abuse> that's it!!1
[11:37] <NET||abuse> bloody hell.
[11:37] <EmxBA> ok
[11:37] <CrippsFX> NET||abuse, what?
[11:37] <calex> hi all, im running ubuntu in a vmware session from xp, i need to install the vmware tools, i have a tar file and rpm file, but cant get it to install, i installed alien and build essential from synaptic but when i go to extracted tar in terminal and run ./configure says file not found
[11:37] <NET||abuse> :P lol so easyl... 700fps steady on my crappy little radion
[11:37] <farous> CrippsFX: lol i brought mine to the ground so already have a replacement centrino now. gave the amd to wife
[11:37] <Matthewv> how do i find a drive model without restarting and watching post?
[11:38] <CrippsFX> calex, build the tar file. run "tar -xzvf <file>.tar.gz" and then read the README or the INSTALL file that gets extracted.
[11:38] <cicuser> hi
[11:38] <NET||abuse> an7yway,,, here i go to crash my machine with another xgl attempt
[11:38] <calex> cool crippsfx ill give it a shot
[11:38] <CrippsFX> farous, yeah ... I drove my last lappy (celeron) into the ground ... only took me 3 years ... by the time I can afford another this one will be toast.,
[11:38] <farous> NET||abuse: it is not worth it
[11:38] <NET||abuse> farous, i just want to see it once
[11:39] <CrippsFX> calex, no problem :)
[11:39] <farous> NET||abuse: good luck
[11:39] <NET||abuse> farous, :) lol
[11:39] <ome_> Anyone want to help me get flash working in ubuntu?
[11:39] <CrippsFX> !tell ome_ about flash
[11:40] <farous> ome_: i downloaded the installer from adobe website
[11:40] <ome_> I downloaded it. Manually put plugins in firefox folder. Wont work, I think its because im using Ubuntu Amd64
[11:41] <CrippsFX> ome_, yeah, that piece of information would have helped. there is no flash plugin available for x86_64
[11:41] <CrippsFX> ome_, there *are* howtos on running 32 bit firefox using chroot, and using the 32 bit plugin with that.
[11:41] <ome_> Should I get the non 64 ubuntu?
[11:42] <drumline> ome_: do you have a 32 bit processor?
[11:42] <CrippsFX> ome_, depends what you need out of a linux system.
[11:42] <idoru_> what do i need to apt-get for getting flash to work in firefox? the guide at ubuntu says flash nonfree but that isn't in the repository, and liblfash-mozplugin crashes firefox
[11:42] <ome_> I got a Athlon FX55
[11:42] <CrippsFX> drumline, amd64 also runs in 32 bit mode
[11:42] <ome_> yah my windows is 32 bit, works fine
[11:42] <suprchris> hey, cripps thanks for that image
[11:42] <KenSentMe> I'm using this howto to configure lm-sensors (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780), but it says to run a script in the lm-sensors source. Where can i find the source?
[11:42] <drumline> CrippsFX: I know, but there's no reason to continue with old technology...   The idea is to push it ahead to 64bit
[11:43] <ome_> I hear you drumline.
[11:43] <drumline> if you have a 64 bit processor...  If you have a 32 bit processor, by all means, use 32  :)
[11:43] <CrippsFX> suprchris, image?
[11:43] <ome_> I wanna push the 64. Hard goin without flash though
[11:43] <suprchris> of the file sys layout
[11:43] <Bazzi> I use 32 bit even though I have a 64 bit CPU, it's just less hassle
[11:43] <void^> KenSentMe: do you mean the "script pasted below"?
[11:44] <CrippsFX> ome_, google "chroot +mozilla flash +amd64" ... you *should* find some how tos
[11:44] <Bazzi> ome_: consider waiting for flash 9 before switching to 64 bit then
[11:44] <Sonderblade> if i use dapper, shouldn't i get daily updates?
[11:44] <ome_> This is my first time even touching anything linux related and i must say im loving it and the whole scene
[11:44] <CrippsFX> suprchris, forgive me, but I still don't remember.
[11:44] <EtoYa> need help with desktop install - cannot see the dialog buttons due to wide screen
[11:44] <CrippsFX> ome_, congratulations. :)
[11:44] <Frogzoo> Sonderblade: yes, if you configure synaptic that way
[11:44] <CrippsFX> ome_, the more you use it, the better you love it ;)
[11:45] <Sonderblade> Frogzoo: i have, but i didnt get any updates today
[11:45] <ome_> yah i feel in control again
[11:45] <suprchris> http://www.secguru.com/files/linux_file_structure.jpg
[11:45] <ome_> windows seems so suspicous and out of control
[11:45] <CrippsFX> suprchris, I don't think that was me ... but it *is* a nice diagram ... I think I'll keep a copy ;)
[11:45] <suprchris> oh well
[11:46] <EtoYa> can you please help me with the dapper install question?
[11:46] <ome_> hey ive gotten a couple chroot messages from you guys. Where do i type those lines?
[11:46] <suprchris> you're welcome then
[11:46] <Frogzoo> Sonderblade: well there aren't new releases every day
[11:46] <teclis> hello, does anybody know how to open a MS-PowerPoint-Presentation with version below Powerpoint 97 with OpenOffice?
[11:46] <ome_> chroot +mozilla flash +amd64
[11:47] <EtoYa> bueller, bueller, anyone?
[11:47] <ome_> How do i get world of warcraft to work?
[11:47] <ome_> kidding
[11:47] <Frogzoo> !wow
[11:47] <ubotu> To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built with a patch, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource. A deb is available but for Dapper only, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine
[11:47] <suprchris> CrippsFx: btw, I still can't access the drive/partition,  tis no big deal, at least i know what it is now
[11:48] <ome_> wow you can wow with wine
[11:48] <jessy_> youpi vacances !
[11:48] <EtoYa> :(
[11:48] <Bazzi> ome_: wine has made great progress recently. you won't believe how many things work out of the box with wine atm
[11:48] <Frogzoo> ome_: it's brilliant - try it, you'll like it
[11:48] <ome_> wow man that sounds great
[11:48] <ome_> I would so love to ditch windows
[11:48] <exmethix> hallo @ all!
[11:48] <Warbo> Can anyone help me sort out an ubuntulooks theme I'm making? (PM me to avoid filling the channel)
[11:48] <exmethix> is there a german here
[11:49] <exmethix> ??
[11:49] <Pecisk> can anyone expierenced sudden problems with CD burning
[11:49] <EtoYa> q
[11:49] <Frogzoo> ome_: oh noes - bill will be so disappointed :-(
[11:49] <Bazzi> ome_: do you dual boot? or using vmware?
[11:49] <ome_> I tried getting wine through repositorys the other day. Kept gettin 404 on the apt
[11:49] <Warbo> ome_: One "problem" with WINE is that M$ have started putting detectors for it in their update services!
[11:50] <Bazzi> ome_: theres one especially for dapper, deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[11:50] <Warbo> ome_: Although I have managed to run the "alternative" method for their Windows Genuine Advantage software
[11:50] <ome_>  So whats the problem if windows has wine detectors. Wouldnt you be using wine in linux?
[11:50] <snoops> Warbo really? Bloody hell ms are bastards.
[11:51] <ome_> What do you need windows update in linux for?
[11:51] <_cuTe_> h!
[11:51] <idoru_> what is the packname for flash?
[11:51] <Warbo> ome_: If you are using IE, M$ Office, etc and you need the security updates (there WILL be security flaws :))
[11:51] <CrippsFX> idoru_, apt-cache search flash
[11:51] <idoru_> flashplugin-nonfree doesn't work as stated on the wiki
[11:51] <idoru_> CrippsFX: already did that, libflash-mozplugin crashed my firefox
[11:51] <Bazzi> Warbo: as long as they only harm the wine'd system ;-)
[11:52] <ome_> yah i use firefox
[11:52] <ome_> but i hear you
[11:52] <Ng> Warbo: you can download pretty much all MS updates without using windows update
[11:52] <Frogzoo> Warbo: so why isn't this anti trust? if you choose to run office etc. on wine, that's the user's choice, no?
[11:52] <ome_> fortunately i dont use those apps
[11:52] <internat> has anyone had the problem of nothing being able to listen, ie i run nc - l 8080 and it says its fine, but trying to connect to 8080 on localhost or by ip, or from another computer gets connection denied
[11:53] <Warbo> Frogzoo: I think the WINE developers are gradually beating the detectors, while ms are improving them. I know there are supposed legal issues, so WINE has got themselves some Free Software legal reprisentatives
[11:53] <Ng> internat: you probably want nc -l -p 8080
[11:53] <internat> hmms
[11:54] <ome_> Hey Bazzi, Im still a little confused on all the download options. Could you get me a specific dapper wine release link for my amd64.   I have 2 diffrent drives i used to switch in bios to choose boot. Since i Installed ubuntu theres a little boot selector now
[11:54] <Frogzoo> Warbo: methinks redmond must be starting to take wine seriously then...
[11:54] <Bazzi> ome_: I take it you are not familiar yet with sources.list?
[11:55] <ome_> been 2 days since i first seen linux. I just figured out what all the super user stuff is about and how to get my rez working in xserver-org but thats about all i know
[11:56] <Warbo> Ng: It is easy to get around most of their protections. For example, if you want some software from microsoft.com which needs you to complete a WGA (Windows Genuine Advantage) test, then either a) Run the "alternative" method, which works in WINE, or b) Search on Google and you will find the page which would come up after the check has completed
[11:56] <Frogzoo> !tell ome_ about docs
[11:57] <dooglus> Windows Update isn't a free service - it's only available for people with Windows licenses.
[11:57] <NET||abuse> got a real simple problem with a http proxy server and apt ... have my network a little gateway with a simple proxy in series..
[11:57] <Bazzi> ome_: hehe, well then there's a few things you should know
[11:57] <dooglus> if you're using Wine, and don't have a Windows license, you're not allowed to use Windows Update
[11:57] <xinel> hey everyone, does anybody know where i can download the daily releases of dapper? ive got an intel 3945 network card and have been reading through the forums and ppl said it works with dapper 7 and the older kernel
[11:57] <CrippsFX> dooglus, and neither is microsoft office update ... it's open for people who hold valid office licences ... and it should be regardless of what OS they're using.
[11:57] <NET||abuse> now you need to enter a user/pass from the windows domain to get out.. normally this seems to work fine... but when you us apt and there's http based debs.. i'm hitting a problem.
[11:57] <ome_> i know a little on how to use terminal to and alt-cntrl-f1
[11:57] <Frogzoo> dooglus: for real? if you buy office, you don't get updates without a windows licence? curious....
[11:58] <dooglus> xinel: that's dapper *alpha* 7.  dapper final has been released (1st June) now
[11:58] <Bazzi> ome_: first software rule is to only install software from within the package manager, if possible. so you have to let the package manager know some extra sources
[11:58] <NET||abuse> it says 407 Proxy Authentication Required..
[11:58] <dooglus> Frogzoo: not Windows Updates
[11:58] <NET||abuse> how can i set it to authenticate on the proxy when i use apt...