[06:18] <Wammy> anyone have an idea where i could get the driver (or how to make it work) for a Neomagic NM2200 audio card?
[06:18] <ssstormy> tamzarian, ok so go to command prompt and type ifconfig wlan0 up
[06:19] <tamzarian> in windows?
[06:19] <tamzarian> XD
[06:19] <intelikey> live cd. HammerBlade2020    and maybe even unplug the hdd if possable.
[06:19] <cK-gLocK> 6.01 is coming soon isnt it? would i be uble to just upgrade to 6.10 with ease? without losing anything
[06:19] <tamzarian> I gotta look for the command
[06:19] <cK-gLocK> 6.01 i mean yea
[06:19] <tamzarian> prompt
[06:19] <cK-gLocK> from 5.10
[06:19] <HammerBlade2020> intelikey~ i got sensor-d installed what now
[06:19] <ssstormy> tamzarian, make sure you are root user, or you add "sudo" beforehand
[06:19] <ssstormy> tamzarian, just hit ctl+alt+F1
[06:19] <AngryElf> make-kpkg didn't ask me a single question and has just started make-ing
[06:19] <Goldfisch> lad_of_nod: You installed an LVM setup, root and all. Not sure I can help there. I haven't done root-on-LVM yet.
[06:19] <tamzarian> k
[06:19] <ssstormy> tamzarian, and ctl+alt+F7 to get back to X
[06:20] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, start sensord and let it run, watch the systme logs
[06:20] <Goldfisch> Okay, I found me a spare partition (old WIndows one) on my debian machine. Blew it away, and just got Ubuntu loaded on it. Neat!
[06:20] <starpause> the default terminal program isn't displaying text i type. is there a way to reset it without Xing out and starting a new one
[06:20] <HammerBlade2020> ssstormy~ okay it's running.. where are the logs
[06:20] <intelikey> HammerBlade2020 also scan the last log entries for the previous run to see what might show up there just before she crashes.
[06:20] <AngryElf> and it set ext3 support to module, again.....what good was that?
[06:20] <wastrel> what's azureus?  that's a gnutella client?
[06:20] <tamzarian> it says permission denied
[06:20] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, /var/log/syslog
[06:20] <ssstormy> AngryElf, what do you mean again?
[06:21] <HammerBlade2020> ssstormy~ localhost sensord Error getting sensor data: lm85/in5: Can't access procfs/sysfs file
[06:21] <wastrel> on the livecd where is the user's temporary filesystem located?
[06:21] <jb1> wastrel: azureus is a java bittorrent client
[06:21] <ssstormy> AngryElf, what config file are ytou reading to?
[06:21] <tamzarian> when I type ifconfig wlan0 up
[06:21] <AngryElf> i have no idea
[06:21] <ssstormy> AngryElf, how do you know it's building as a module?
[06:21] <Toma-> tamzarian, "sudo ifup wlan0"
[06:21] <ssstormy> tamzarian, yes?
[06:21] <AngryElf> i just typed make-kpkg and it flew through the config options as if i was holding enter, then it started making
[06:21] <ssstormy> Toma- ifup works in ubuntu?
[06:21] <AngryElf> cause i scrolled up and i found the ext3 question....and it said m
[06:21] <uzair_> hey all
[06:21] <Toma-> yes indeedy
[06:22] <ssstormy> AngryElf, don't do make-kpkg
[06:22] <uzair_> can someone help me with a problem with wine/steam?
[06:22] <farous> anyone know why i can access live365.com form my other computer but not from this one. both running ubuntu linux. i get the message unkown host trying to ping it
[06:22] <wastrel> HammerBlade2020:  are you mounting your hard drive with the livecd and telling azureus to download stuff to there?
[06:22] <uzair_> farous: check firewall settings?
[06:22] <HammerBlade2020> wastrel~ i'm not on a live-cd
[06:22] <HammerBlade2020> wastrel~ i'm on an HD installed breezy
[06:22] <AngryElf> so i have to 'make' again
[06:22] <tamzarian> ok im back
[06:22] <farous_> uzair_: i disabbled the firewall
[06:23] <wastrel> nvm :]
[06:23] <ssstormy> AngryElf, yeah, but dont' sweat it
[06:23] <AngryElf> how do i know that it will use the config file that iv'e modified so that ext3=Y ?
[06:23] <uzair_> hmm
[06:23] <ssstormy> AngryElf, which config file did you change?
[06:23] <tamzarian> when I typed up ifconfig wlan0 up it gave me an error, permission denied
[06:23] <ssstormy> tamzarian, you gotta be root
[06:23] <uzair_> anyone get steam to run with wine?? i'm havin a bit of trouble
[06:23] <AngryElf> /boot/config_version-i'm-using
[06:23] <tamzarian> how would I do that?
[06:23] <ssstormy> AngryElf, that's like a backup for future reference
[06:23] <tamzarian> I also typed ifconfig wlan0
[06:23] <tamzarian> without the up
[06:24] <AngryElf> so where's the config file that make will actually read?
[06:24] <ssstormy> AngryElf, the real config that make program reads from is (in this case) at /usr/src/linux_version_/.config
[06:24] <tamzarian> weee, its SO cool to be a noob
[06:24] <uzair_> lol
[06:24] <farous_> ok will reboot now
[06:24] <HammerBlade2020> i guess it is heat
[06:24] <tamzarian> like windows all over again
[06:24] <HammerBlade2020> localhost kernel [4295943.270000]  CPU1: Temperature above threshold
[06:24] <HammerBlade2020> what should i do about heat?
[06:24] <ssstormy> tamzarian, you need to do ifconfig wlan0 up
[06:24] <cafuego> HammerBlade2020: check cpu fan
[06:24] <tamzarian> ok
[06:24] <tamzarian> I did that too
[06:24] <HammerBlade2020> cafuego~ i mean should i take the cover off the case or?
[06:24] <tamzarian> but it gave me the permissions error
[06:24] <a0d> i'm having some problems with my bind dns configuration, the problem consist in this, when i'm trying to ping all my clients machines from my dns server it cant ping all of then because it is not resolving the names, but when i'm from any other machine from my domain i can ping all of the others including the dns server, what am i doing wrong?
[06:25] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, check the heat conductor goop on the proccessor connecting it to the fan
[06:25] <cafuego> HammerBlade2020: That would help to see if the fan is spinning, yes.
[06:25] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, get a new fan-heatsink assembly
[06:25] <Achew22> okay, can someone help me out -- how do you decode this 1280x1024-32@80 what does it mean -- 1280x1024 resolution at 32 bit but what is the 80 for?
[06:25] <AngryElf> ok
[06:25] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, make sure the case has sufficient airflow through
[06:25] <HammerBlade2020> i dunno how to install a fan/heatsink
[06:25] <intelikey> hmmm 135m is not enough room to install kernel source and build one is it?
[06:25] <cafuego> HammerBlade2020: That's trivial. See if it's broken first.
[06:25] <ssstormy> intelikey, not likely
[06:25] <Goldfisch> Probably 80hz refresh rate.
[06:25] <HammerBlade2020> okay...
[06:25] <cafuego> intelikey: Not a 2.6 kenrel, no.
[06:25] <HammerBlade2020> how do i see if it's broken
[06:26] <cafuego> HammerBlade2020: If the fan is not spinning, it's broken.
[06:26] <tamzarian> how do I get past the permission denied error when I type up ifconfig wlan0 up
[06:26] <NickGarvey> use sudo
[06:26] <cafuego> tamzarian: 'sudo'
[06:26] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, have you opened the case?
[06:26] <NickGarvey> night guys
[06:26] <tamzarian> whats sudo?
[06:26] <Goldfisch> sudo ifconfig wlan0
[06:26] <ssstormy> tamzarian, or you can do "exit" until it logs out and login as rot
[06:26] <cafuego> !sudo
[06:26] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:26] <tamzarian> ok
[06:26] <jb1> tamzarian: "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up"  put in your password and it should work
[06:26] <ssstormy> tamzarian, a program that lets you pretend ot be root
[06:26] <tamzarian> let me try that
[06:26] <intelikey> tamzarian sudo ?
[06:27] <tamzarian> I think it worked
[06:27] <tamzarian> it didnt show any confirmation
[06:27] <tamzarian> just asked for pass
[06:27] <jb1> tamzarian: "sudo ifup wlan0" is shorter, though
[06:27] <tamzarian> and I gave it mine
[06:27] <ssstormy> tamzarian, you're fine then
[06:27] <tamzarian> ok
[06:27] <ssstormy> tamzarian, now do you have gnome installed?
[06:27] <tamzarian> how do I get out of command prompt to test it?
[06:27] <HammerBlade2020> i took the side off
[06:27] <wastrel> a0d:  mostly desktop users here, maybe try on #linux
[06:27] <cafuego> jb1: Those commands to two DIFFERENT things
[06:27] <tamzarian> I have ubuntu 5.10 installed
[06:27] <tamzarian> is that gnome?
[06:27] <HammerBlade2020> it's spinning
[06:27] <HammerBlade2020> what do i check now
[06:28] <ssstormy> tamzarian, ok switch to ctl+alt+F7
[06:28] <dli> does the ubuntu installation cd support hsf modem?
[06:28] <tamzarian> k
[06:28] <cafuego> HammerBlade2020: is it making  a noise whilst spinning?
[06:28] <a0d> i'm having some problems with my bind dns configuration, the problem consist in this, when i'm trying to ping all my clients machines from my dns server it cant ping all of then because it is not resolving the names, but when i'm from any other machine from my domain i can ping all of the others including the dns server, what am i doing wrong?
[06:28] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, hmm try sticking your hand around to see if the air is hot,and if the fans are moving air
[06:28] <norris> i just finished a podcast on installing ubuntu on a new laptop/getting wireless working etc http://lottalinuxlinks.com/podcast/
[06:28] <tamzarian> un ub ctl+alt+f7
[06:28] <HammerBlade2020> ssstormy~ okay
[06:28] <tamzarian> do I just test my connection now
[06:28] <tamzarian> ?
[06:28] <ssstormy> tamzarian, no
[06:28] <tamzarian> ok
[06:28] <HammerBlade2020> cafuego~ yea it's making noise
[06:28] <ssstormy> tamzarian, are you back in the graphical place?
[06:28] <tamzarian> yea
[06:28] <Aine> Hey all. I just set my screen res on install to 1600x1200 and I cant now kill X and try to run xorg conf
[06:28] <cK-gLocK> will i be able to upgrade to 6.04 dapper drake from my current 5.10 breezy badger setup? once it rlsed
[06:28] <Aine> how can I get to the console to run it
[06:28] <HammerBlade2020> ssstormy~ ot
[06:29] <HammerBlade2020> ssstormy~ it's moving air, and it's not real hot
[06:29] <ssstormy> tamzarian, go to system->Admin->networking menu
[06:29] <cafuego> HammerBlade2020: Does it sound unhealthy (rattle, squeak, whine) or ok?
[06:29] <norris> podcast rss feed at http://lottalinuxlinks.com/podcast/rss.xml
[06:29] <tamzarian> hang on
[06:29] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, is the heatsink hot?
[06:29] <darthbutcher> How do I copy the files from my iPod onto Linux?
[06:29] <wastrel> Aine:  your X is frozen?
[06:29] <wastrel> !ipod
[06:29] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[06:29] <tamzarian> ok im in
[06:29] <bimberi> cK-gLocK: yes, a dev is working on a special app to manage the upgrade
[06:29] <HammerBlade2020> ssstormy~ the HD is very very hot..
[06:29] <ssstormy> Aine, do ctl+alt+F1 and log in, then do killall gdm
[06:30] <dli> how do I install X from the installation cd?
[06:30] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, that could be why
[06:30] <darthbutcher> I already have Amarok.
[06:30] <Aine> Wastrel: It has the funky color bars like when someone puts in a wrong vert refresh.
[06:30] <darthbutcher> I am happily listening to my music.
[06:30] <cK-gLocK> nice man
[06:30] <dad_> Hey all..  How do I connect to my wireless router at home AFTER I have disabled SSID Broadcasting (So other people can't as easily scan for it).. I tried 'iwconfig ath0 essid MYSSID channel MYCHANNEL' and wpa_supplicant'ed it, but 'dhclient' still isn't authenticating..  Do I have to indicate the router's specific MAC Address somewhere?
[06:30] <cK-gLocK> very nice
[06:30] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, is a fan blowing in it's general direction?
[06:30] <HammerBlade2020> ssstormy~ what the fuck do i do to cool it
[06:30] <darthbutcher> But, how do I get it on my Hard Drive.
[06:30] <HammerBlade2020> ssstormy~ not really..
[06:30] <Aine> ssstrormy: Thank you, that did it :D
[06:30] <intelikey> Aine [crtl] +[alt] +[f2]   = goto tty2        tty7  is where X lives.
[06:30] <cafuego> HammerBlade2020: Install 'hddtemp' to see HOW hot the HD is.
[06:30] <tamzarian> I THINK ITS WORKING
[06:30] <tamzarian> I SETUP MY STUFF
[06:30] <tamzarian> let me test it
[06:31] <ssstormy> tamzarian, did you setup the wireless ESSID and stuff?
[06:31] <HammerBlade2020> dev/sda1: WDC WD1600JD-22HBB0:  36C or F
[06:31] <cafuego> talios: yes
[06:31] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, that's funny
[06:31] <cafuego> HammerBlade2020: 36C is not a problem.
[06:31] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, the human body is only about that
[06:31] <jb1> talios: today's updates were toxic for a lot of people. you might want to wait a couple of days
[06:31] <tamzarian> yup ssstormy
[06:31] <HammerBlade2020> well it feels reallllllllly hot
[06:31] <tamzarian> should work fine
[06:31] <Aine> ssstormy: What was the command to run the xorg config?
[06:31] <tamzarian> after it enables itself
[06:31] <intelikey> talios dont mix repos.   you will be reloading your system.
[06:32] <tamzarian> its still enabling be right back
[06:32] <ssstormy> Aine, umm I think X -config or X -conf something like that
[06:32] <talios> jb1, I see in #ubuntu+1 gtk's borked with some replacements in the topic
[06:32] <wastrel> Aine:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:32] <ssstormy> tamzarian, if it takes FOREVER it's not working; it will close after a while if it can't connect
[06:32] <HammerBlade2020> ssstormy~ how do i cool the HD
[06:32] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, get a fan to blow right at it
[06:33] <HammerBlade2020> how do i do that ;\
[06:33] <talios> intelikey, i'm not touching backports at all - only restricted/multiverse/universe
[06:33] <tamzarian> oh
[06:33] <tamzarian> then I did something wrong huh
[06:33] <tamzarian> :(
[06:33] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, well start with making sure it's not in any crevices or places that air can't flow well
[06:33] <streetclerk> When I try to install Ubuntu my monitor just shows a bunch of yellow/blue colors.. shapes. etc.. I'm using a GForce4 video card, and an Imagequest-Hyndai LCD monitor. Can anyone help?
[06:33] <talios> mmm, I'd try the live cd of flight4 if it actually booted ;(  4 machines and it sticks on LVM
[06:33] <ssstormy> tamzarian, go to a console and let's try again
[06:33] <linux_user400354> How can I add this to my path "/usr/local/jdk1.5.0_06/bin/"
[06:33] <tamzarian> the little light isnt blinking
[06:33] <tamzarian> ok
[06:33] <ssstormy> tamzarian, this is the harder way
[06:33] <intelikey> talios that's not what i'm saying.     'do not install packages from one release on another'
[06:33] <AngryElf> ssstormy, now that i have ext3 built into the kernel, I can delete the initrd line in /boot/grub/menu.lst and it should start up fine?
[06:34] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, maybe one thing you could do is if you have an intake fan
[06:34] <HammerBlade2020> ssstormy~ the hd is in a rack
[06:34] <ssstormy> AngryElf, yes
[06:34] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, what kinda rack?  is it a regular computer case?
[06:34] <intelikey> talios upgrade the whole release or none of it.
[06:34] <HammerBlade2020> ssstormy~ it's a gateway
[06:34] <AngryElf> ssstormy, intelikey, thanx for your help
[06:34] <talios> intelikey, true - in theory an apt-get dist-upgrade -should- do the wholething thou right/
[06:34] <talios> ?
[06:34] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, I'm not sure what that is... is it sitting on anything, or supported
[06:35] <talios> intelikey, after all - thats how I installed breezy (from hoary)
[06:35] <HammerBlade2020> ssstormy~ it's in a metal rack
[06:35] <Rob_Dude> So, I've got ubuntu running and VMware setup and all the apps and what not I need (Well, that's not true, I have a lot of .XLS files that won't open/crash OpenOffice - but aside from that)...everything is setup.  But I'm bored.  What are some good games that run in Linux?
[06:35] <HammerBlade2020> ssstormy~ screwed in
[06:35] <intelikey> if you set all the repos to the new   then yes talios
[06:35] <wastrel> linux_user400354:  open up your .bash_profile, and add the line   export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/jdk1.5.0_06/bin/      or for a system-wide change, edit /etc/profile
[06:35] <ssstormy> but is it flat on anything, or are the top and bottom out in the open?
[06:35] <Aine> Rob_Dude: Have you tried America's Army>
[06:35] <talios> intelikey, 700mb of packages to download - I sure hope thats all :)
[06:36] <ssstormy> tamzarian, are you ready?
[06:36] <intelikey> talios probably   but there is like 13g of packages totoal
[06:36] <intelikey> !dstats dapper
[06:36] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, ok do you have any extra fans, or is the hd near a fan?
[06:36] <tr011> some good editor for java with sintax completion and debugger ?
[06:37] <wastrel> tr011:  eclipse?
[06:37] <talios> intelikey, yah - I don't have any kde etc.
[06:37] <ssstormy> tr011, jedit, but you need to follow a small guide to instlal it
[06:37] <HammerBlade2020> ssstormy~ no i don't and no it isn't
[06:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu Distro Stats on dapper... 18601 packages, 1749 maintainers, 38121 MB installed size, 11712 MB compressed size.
[06:37] <talios> eclipse or netbeans are good for free stuff
[06:37] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, you need something like a fan to cool it and move air or water if you wanna get real crazy
[06:37] <HammerBlade2020> ssstormy~ eh... i dunno what to do
[06:37] <Rob_Dude> Aine:  Nope, But I'll try it now :)
[06:38] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, is it an old hd?
[06:38] <ssstormy> and is it still relaly hot to the touch?
[06:38] <linux_user400354> wastrel, when i add to my .bash_profile, does it matter where i add? should i add between the if fi or at the very end?
[06:38] <Aine> Rob_Dude: It's a great game. The linux version will be released soon (The new version 2.6, you can still play 2.5) www.americasarmy.com if you want to check it out
[06:38] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, also, what about the processor?  what's it's temprature?
[06:38] <intelikey> HammerBlade2020 i've got a few of the cooling chips from a nucular sub that can hard freeze it if you want.   :)
[06:38] <HammerBlade2020> intelikey~ lol
[06:38] <wastrel> linux_user400354:  at the end outside an if block
[06:39] <HammerBlade2020> ssstormy~ i dunno what it is
[06:39] <HammerBlade2020> ssstormy~ and it isn't old
[06:39] <ssstormy> intelikey, must get cold in th eevenings :)
[06:39] <krystoff> !w32codecs
[06:39] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[06:39] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, check those tempreature readings again
[06:39] <HammerBlade2020> ssstormy~ is it better to have the side of the case off or on
[06:39] <HammerBlade2020> ssstormy~ and i moved it more out in the open and the temp is dropping
[06:39] <daidungsi> hello
[06:39] <daidungsi> can i ask you a question ?
[06:39] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, well you'll get better circulation with the case open and the thing in open areas
[06:39] <norris> i just finished a podcast on installing ubuntu on a new laptop/getting wireless working etc http://lottalinuxlinks.com/podcast/
[06:40] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, but of course it's athstetically less pleasing
[06:40] <daidungsi> i forgot the root password
[06:40] <HammerBlade2020> ssstormy~ well i can leave it open since i don't see it anyway
[06:40] <ssstormy> daidungsi, sudo passwd
[06:40] <daidungsi> how i find it ?
[06:40] <streetclerk> can anyone help me with video card/monitor problems?
[06:40] <ssstormy> HammerBlade2020, if it helps then you might as well try leaving it open
[06:40] <daidungsi> thank
[06:40] <Rob_Dude> I installed w32codecs but I still can't play most of my .wmv movies.  I'm using VLC; is there something else I should do?
[06:40] <wastrel> !anyone
[06:40] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[06:40] <jb1> does anybody else find ubuntu's network installs a bit wanting?
[06:40] <dli> can I install gnome from ubuntu CD?
[06:40] <ssstormy> dli you bet
[06:40] <tamzari> my connection cut out
[06:41] <tamzari> :|
[06:41] <ssstormy> jb1, not compared to windows
[06:41] <dli> ssstormy, apt-get install gnome ?
[06:41] <tamzari> ok so im in the command console
[06:41] <newubuntuman> hey, why does modprove lt_serial not work?
[06:41] <tamzari> what now ssstormy
[06:41] <KonphuzeD> ah i still cant get w32 i changed the repositiries to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu and now synaptic does not even find w32codec
[06:41] <ssstormy> dli um no I think do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:41] <ssstormy> tamzari, go to command line
[06:41] <tamzari> im in
[06:41] <jb1> ssstormy: in redhat, you just give the installer an IP and a directory and it goes finds the iso
[06:41] <tamzari> ahh
[06:41] <tamzari> my name is shorter
[06:41] <daidungsi> oh yes
[06:41] <ssstormy> tamzari, and do iwconfig wlan0 essid -wireless name-
[06:42] <Mercutio150> can someone help me with something?
[06:42] <daidungsi> i succeed
[06:42] <ssstormy> jb1, I could do that with ubuntu if I wanted...
[06:42] <tamzari> my wireless name is my SSID right?
[06:42] <dli> ssstormy, I'm in big trouble, I have hsf modem, how can I get it work? I couldn't just download the driver, before I can get it driven up
[06:42] <daidungsi> thanks ssstormy
[06:42] <ssstormy> tamzari, yeah that's what I meant
[06:42] <intelikey> actually these things are lots of fun to play with.   they are ceramic composite squares about 2" x 2" x 1/8" with two electric leads   you put 12v in and one side goes to about -20F  the other will fry an egg....   reverse the leads and the heat/cold swaps sides... HammerBlade2020   but i've never applied one to any good use yet.
[06:42] <jb1> ssstormy: i haven;t found the option in the dapper installer yet
[06:42] <krystoff> there's no more w32codecs or java in plf repo ?
[06:42] <zipper> !upgrade
[06:42] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to dapper Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html
[06:42] <Mercutio150> I am trying to access programs that I dl'd with synaptic but don't know how
[06:43] <ssstormy> dli, you can boot windows or whatever, go online and download the .deb package for your modem driver, then come back and do a dpkg -i filename.deb
[06:43] <ssstormy> jb1, you have to do it by hand though
[06:43] <dli> ssstormy, too late, windows is gone
[06:43] <wastrel> thermocouple
[06:43] <wastrel> no, peltier junction
[06:43] <ssstormy> dli, then you need another computer or osme kinda live cd with support
[06:43] <ssstormy> tamzari, now I think you can just try dhclient wlan0
[06:44] <ssstormy> tamzari, or actually before that do iwlist scanning wlan0
[06:44] <tamzari> ok
[06:44] <akaihola> I found a couple of corrupted files. Now fsck.ext3 can't find superblock. What's the best thing to do before bringing system down besides backup? Can I fix the superblock?
[06:44] <tamzari> let me do that hang on
[06:44] <tamzari> I did the first one, but I had to add sudo to the front
[06:45] <ssstormy> akai, there are backup superblocks at various places in the partition
[06:45] <Piete> Hey
[06:45] <ssstormy> tamzari, of course.  these all need sudo
[06:45] <Syns> anyone use amule?
[06:45] <tamzari> oh
[06:45] <ssstormy> Syns, i tried 3 times and let it die
[06:45] <ssstormy> let it die A Muleish death
[06:45] <Syns> why do i have to search for servers? why wouldnt it already have them so i can connect?
[06:45] <akaihola> ssstormy: I tried the first one at 8193, but it didn't find that either
[06:45] <Piete> Can someone please help me test my ipv6 link? Just ping6 me on 2001:5c0:8fff:fffe::4899 and let me know if you get through?
[06:45] <ssstormy> mostly cause it wouldn't let me use the edonky links
[06:46] <krystoff> which repository do i have to have to install java ?
[06:46] <tamzari> it tells me 'unknwn command wlan0'
[06:46] <jb1> akaihola: when the file system is made, there are 2 or 3 spare superblocks setup on the partition
[06:46] <intelikey> akaihola there are backup superblocks on the fs.
[06:46] <Syns> stormy: what do u use for filesharing?
[06:46] <ssstormy> akaihola, try a few more and if that dosn't do it, you'll have to just delete th efiles and replace them
[06:46] <krystoff> brb
[06:46] <ssstormy> tamzari, iwlist scanning wlan0
[06:46] <ssstormy> tamzari, or actually
[06:46] <ssstormy> tamzari, i think I may have gotten it backwards, so just iwlist scanning
[06:47] <tamzari> ok
[06:47] <akaihola> ssstormy: I thought I really have to fix the superblock or otherwise I can't reboot
[06:47] <tamzari> so i'll type up iwlist scanning wlan0
[06:47] <tamzari> ?
[06:47] <ssstormy> akaihola, oh oops :) I was thinking about the corruption
[06:47] <intelikey> who uses external journal ?
[06:48] <tamzari> or just iwlist scanning
[06:48] <ssstormy> tamzari, nah just do iwlist scanning
[06:48] <tamzari> k
[06:48] <tamzari> I hate being a noob, sorry
[06:48] <ssstormy> tamzari, don't worry I was a really really bad noob once :)
[06:48] <ssstormy> akaihola, do you have extra space?
[06:48] <Achew22> tamzari its okay -- I'm going to laugh at you anyways
[06:48] <Achew22> ;)
[06:49] <ssstormy> akaihola, I'm not familiar with this kinda recovery, but if all else fails, copy off al the files that are still good and reformat
[06:49] <akaihola> ssstormy: I have extra space on another machine in the local network
[06:49] <tamzari> it says 'Interface does not support scanning' or something
[06:49] <ssstormy> akaihola, also, what's giving the error? mount?
[06:49] <ssstormy> tamzari, aww damn
[06:49] <tamzari> does it matter that its a USB networking device?
[06:49] <akaihola> ssstormy: fsck.ext3
[06:49] <ssstormy> tamzari, no I used one for a while
[06:49] <tamzari> k
[06:49] <tamzari> I can get it to showup
[06:49] <akaihola> ssstormy: corrupt files I found just by looking at them
[06:49] <ssstormy> akaihola, I see...
[06:49] <tamzari> and it somehow scanned my wireless network
[06:49] <tamzari> but it wont connect
[06:49] <tamzari> let me try again
[06:50] <ssstormy> akaihola, I dont' think there's much you can do but dont' htake my word for it
[06:50] <ssstormy> tamzari, wait so you did get some results?
[06:50] <ssstormy> tamzari, then try "dhclient wlan0" now
[06:50] <ssstormy> akaihola, did you try all the superblock backups?
[06:51] <akaihola> ssstormy: I'll do a backup. Which one is faster, 100Mbit LAN or an IDE disk on USB 2.0?
[06:51] <akaihola> ssstormy: I don't know yet how to find backup superblocks.
[06:51] <ssstormy> akaihola, USB goes 400Mbit
[06:51] <ssstormy> akaihola, find a tutorial
[06:51] <KonphuzeD> ok perhaps somebody can show me a sources.list with universe and seveas working servers , please
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> my Lan seems faster then my USB drives
[06:51] <tamzari> ok ssstormy, we did something right. the light is blinking, and making a connection attempt now
[06:51] <ssstormy> akaihola, and if you do fsck.ext3 -h it might even tell you how
[06:51] <tamzari> my WEP key is 128 bit ASCII
[06:51] <fosdor> are there any instructions for installing the update manager to upgrade to drake?
[06:51] <tamzari> how would I set that?
[06:51] <krystoff> sorry there's something i dont understand w32 and java should be in plf repository right ?
[06:52] <ssstormy> Dr_Willis, can't tell you about the drive but the interface is something like 4x as fast, as best I remember
[06:52] <wastrel> what's plf?
[06:52] <tamzari> wtf
[06:52] <tamzari> I didnt quit
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> ssstormy,  they just seem slow.. of course its hard to get good benchmarks
[06:52] <ssstormy> tamzari, iwconfig wlan0 enc XXXX-XXXX
[06:52] <intelikey> plf penguin liberation fundatioy
[06:52] <ssstormy> tamzari, dhclient runs for a while trying ot get addresses
[06:52] <tamzari> what goes in place of the XXXX-XXXX? my key?
[06:52] <me2win> anyone wanna join in on our game of tetris?
[06:52] <ssstormy> tamzari, quit a command line app iwth ctl+C
[06:53] <ssstormy> tamzari, yeah
[06:53] <tamzari> k
[06:53] <intelikey> o ^
[06:53] <cK-gLocK> anyone know how i can get to my USB Controller Settings
[06:53] <ebaad> Can somebody help me with the postfix
[06:53] <tamzari> the whole thing?
[06:53] <krystoff> !plf
[06:53] <ubotu> methinks plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf, or for i386 users only
[06:53] <abes> is this my imagination or it is really hard to figure all the Eclipse out? I have really hard time even getting the "Hello World" running (Java) with Eclipse! Any reliable tutorials (less than 500000 pages?)
[06:53] <cK-gLocK> i have a wireless SAITEK
[06:53] <tamzari> every 4 characters put a dash?
[06:53] <cK-gLocK> in ubuntu
[06:53] <me2win> anyone wanna join in our game of tetrinet?
[06:53] <cK-gLocK> i dont see any options about my usb controller anywere
[06:53] <ssstormy> tamzari, yup
[06:53] <ssstormy> tamzari, or is it longer?  hmm
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> cK-gLocK,  Hmm.. it sits on a little blue/grey charger station?
[06:53] <Aine> sstormy: Does PCI-e have an identifier aside from PCI in the video card's bus identifier?
[06:54] <cK-gLocK> black/grey  charger station yes
[06:54] <abes> any JAVA people here?
[06:54] <cK-gLocK> =D
[06:54] <ssstormy> Aine, not sure, never used it.  do lspci and see
[06:54] <cK-gLocK> it used to work in the last ubuntu i tried
[06:54] <cK-gLocK> but i dont see controller options anywere
[06:54] <cK-gLocK> weird..
[06:54] <wastrel> abes:  #eclipse
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> cK-gLocK,  i was thinking Mine worked with no hassles.  it could be theres a module ya need to load.
[06:54] <krystoff> !w32
[06:54] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, krystoff
[06:54] <abes> wastrel: there is no such channel :p
[06:54] <cK-gLocK> hmm i wonder how i would go about that
[06:54] <cK-gLocK> lol
[06:54] <krystoff> !w32codecs
[06:54] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[06:55] <wastrel> abes:  yes there is i just joined it
[06:55] <tyler_>  anyone here knows how to get a brother mfc to work in slack? pls help
[06:55] <tamzari> more errors :(
[06:55] <tamzari> linux was not made for me
[06:55] <tamzari> lol
[06:55] <Aine> ssstormy: if it was set by auto detect hardware, should I leave it as is?
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> cK-gLocK,  lets see... plugging it in now. :P
[06:55] <Rut> Please, help me. What the default root password in Ubuntu 5.10???
[06:55] <jb1> akaihola: a partition should be unmounted before doing anything with the superblock
[06:55] <abes> wastrel, true... sorry... not really used to putting "#" in front... BitchX didnt need that :P
[06:55] <Aine> Tam: Don't say that :), Linux is very powerful and easy to get use to when its working :D
[06:56] <tamzari> lol
[06:56] <cK-gLocK> yea i adjusted quick
[06:56] <tamzari> I need to learn it though
[06:56] <cK-gLocK> cuz i have ub3r micr0
[06:56] <cK-gLocK> :D
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> cK-gLocK,  i plug it in and get --> input: USB HID v1.10 Joystick [LuenKeung Co.,Ltd USB  Joystick]  on usb-0
[06:56] <cK-gLocK> im a linux quaker now=D
[06:56] <Aine> Tam: I'm running it on my laptop right now, just installing it on my desktop is the harder one :D
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> cK-gLocK,  in Dmesg output.
[06:56] <cK-gLocK> really?
[06:56] <tamzari> I am surprised windows hasn't crashed yet... been on for over 45 minutes now
[06:56] <cK-gLocK> so it detected?
[06:56] <cK-gLocK> hmm should i replug?
[06:56] <cK-gLocK> lol
[06:56] <mikebot> is there a way to make it so my numlock is on when ubuntu starts up?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> cK-gLocK,  seems so.
[06:56] <ssstormy> Aine, if it's not working like it should, no, but otherwise
[06:57] <tamzari> anyone else got any ideas on how I can get my HWU54G USB Network Device working?
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> cK-gLocK,  /dev/input/js*  - shows a js0
[06:57] <ssstormy> mikebot, there's a guid in the help manual
[06:57] <jb1> akaihola: you should try: "sudo e2fsck -n /dev/your-borked-partition" to find the next spare superblock
[06:57] <mikebot> ssstormy: a guide for getting my numlock on?
[06:57] <ssstormy> tamzari, what were the erros this time?
[06:57] <ssstormy> mikebot, yes
[06:57] <mikebot> ssstormy: is there not like a simple box i can check or something?
[06:58] <ssstormy> mikebot, not that easy, but it's pretyt simple, one moment
[06:58] <tamzari> let me look
[06:58] <jb1> akaihola: and then: "sudo e2fsck -b spare-superblock" where the spare-superblock will be a number given by the previous command
[06:58] <cK-gLocK> wt
[06:58] <akaihola> jb1: Trying that, also with -b 32768 (and 98304, 163840, 229376 and 294912). Always bad magic number in superblock
[06:58] <cK-gLocK> for some reason i can get in there
[06:58] <cK-gLocK> i type cd js0
[06:58] <cK-gLocK> but it wont lemme in
[06:58] <akaihola> jb1: (and of course first with 8193)
[06:58] <tamzari> error for wireless request
[06:58] <tamzari> and it gave me an error with my WEP
[06:59] <tamzari> 'Invalid argument on 'XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX'
[06:59] <tamzari> but thats obviously not my key ;)
[06:59] <ssstormy> tamzari, add the little -'s inbetween
[06:59] <jetscreamer> js0?
[06:59] <tamzari> every 4 characters?
[06:59] <jetscreamer> isn't that a joystick?
[06:59] <krystoff> do i need some specific things to listen .wav ?
[06:59] <cK-gLocK> yea
[07:00] <Aine> Does anyone know the command to edit text files in console? I keep thinking its vm but it isnt
[07:00] <cK-gLocK> do i gotta edit anything there
[07:00] <cK-gLocK> or run something from there
[07:00] <jetscreamer> you can't cd to a /dev node
[07:00] <ssstormy> Aine, vim
[07:00] <akaihola> jb1: on another mounted fsck.ext3 works ok
[07:00] <jetscreamer> what you want your joystick to work?
[07:00] <ssstormy> Aine, or nano, or emacs
[07:00] <jetscreamer> apt-get install joystick
[07:00] <cK-gLocK> when k
[07:00] <Achew22> nano
[07:00] <jb1> akaihola: you might want to read what Ted T'so has to say about this at: https://listman.redhat.com/archives/ext3-users/2002-January/msg00018.html
[07:00] <cK-gLocK> ill try that
[07:00] <akaihola> jb1: thanks for the link
[07:00] <jetscreamer> cK-gLocK: it's what i had to do
[07:00] <jetscreamer> works fine here
[07:00] <tamzari> isn't there like an easy install thing for USB networking devices?
[07:01] <Aine> ssstormy: what was the way to quit it?
[07:01] <jb1> akaihola: but big grain of salt here since that is 3 years old now
[07:01] <cK-gLocK> k i ran that
[07:01] <cK-gLocK> i checked it to check at bootup
[07:01] <jetscreamer> me too
[07:01] <cK-gLocK> do i need to reboot
[07:01] <cK-gLocK> b4 i works
[07:01] <cK-gLocK> or i can do something now
[07:02] <jetscreamer> if it doesn't work, it's either the usb or the gameport. not positive, i 'think' it works now. maybe not though.
[07:02] <ssstormy> Aine, quit which?
[07:02] <cK-gLocK> how would i check
[07:02] <cK-gLocK> just run joystick from X?
[07:02] <Aine> vim
[07:02] <cK-gLocK> terminal
[07:02] <jetscreamer> not sure about the reboot thing. i know you don't 'have' to, but i don't know if you have to do more to not have to
[07:02] <ssstormy> Aine, press esc, then colon, then q, then enter
[07:02] <ssstormy> tamzari, still not working?
[07:02] <mikebot> ssstormy: ?
[07:02] <tamzari> nope
[07:02] <krystoff> !mp3
[07:02] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:02] <jetscreamer> cK-gLocK: yeah try can't hurt.
[07:02] <tamzari> :|
[07:02] <tamzari> im such a noob
[07:03] <tamzari> it looks like it should be
[07:03] <ssstormy> mikebot, go to the pm window, i'm gonna paste some stuff
[07:03] <tamzari> I type in all my stuff right
[07:03] <jetscreamer> cK-gLocK: usb or plugged into the gameport
[07:03] <tamzari> let me try connecting again
[07:03] <cK-gLocK> USB
[07:03] <ssstormy> tamzari, does it accept the password ok?
[07:03] <mikebot> ssstormy: okay
[07:03] <cK-gLocK> my mp3 player worked
[07:03] <cK-gLocK> detected fine
[07:03] <cK-gLocK> when i plugged it in usb
[07:03] <Wammy> Im having some trouble getting the soundcard on this laptop to work, lspci says itis a NeoMagic NM2200 card, ive googled but found nothing that worked, any ideas?
[07:04] <ssstormy> Wammy, you have a default kernel?
[07:04] <Rob_Dude> Aww, no fair.  My mp3 player doesn't work :(
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> cK-gLocK,  installing some of the joystick packages i see with apt-cache search joystick
[07:04] <Rob_Dude> My digital camera does though...so that's cool
[07:04] <Wammy> ssstormy, yeah, is that the problem?
[07:04] <Rob_Dude> My wireless modem...doesn't :(
[07:04] <ssstormy> Wammy, no.  that's good
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> cK-gLocK,  Zsnes isent seeing it. :(  think its not looking in the right place!
[07:04] <cK-gLocK> yea somethings not right
[07:04] <cK-gLocK> =(
[07:04] <intelikey>  http://plf.zarb.org/logo.png :)
[07:05] <Wammy> ssstormy, ive got 2.6.8 i believe
[07:05] <ssstormy> Wammy, try running /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> zsnes is sort of old - it may be looking in the wrong place.
[07:05] <Wammy> one sec, rebooting.
[07:05] <Deramin> is there a player for Ubuntu - Gnome that plays mpg files?
[07:06] <tamzari> is there like a .exe for linux...
[07:06] <Aine> ssstormy: Is there a website which lists refresh rates for many monitors?
[07:06] <tamzari> even better, a linux that sets everything up for you!
[07:06] <tamzari> this one does really
[07:06] <ssstormy> Aine, yes, it's address is www.google.com :)  search, and you will find
[07:07] <tamzari> only thing nt working is wireless USB and my printer
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> cK-gLocK,  looks like many games look for  /dev/js0  - i made a link from there to /dev/input/js0
[07:07] <ssstormy> Deramin, try mplayer or VLC
[07:07] <tamzari> ok, well
[07:07] <tamzari> thanks for the help guys
[07:07] <ssstormy> tamzari, hold up
[07:07] <Aine> Tamzari: hehehee
[07:07] <Aine> ssstormy: I can't remember my monitors name off hand, so I was looking for a list roflmao
[07:07] <tamzari> what
[07:07] <intelikey> .exe for linux   :)      you mean executable files tamzari ?     they are in *bin/
[07:07] <ssstormy> tamzari, I'm looking for a guide
[07:07] <tamzari> I found a few
[07:07] <tamzari> here
[07:07] <ssstormy> tamzari, what's your model name of your wireless adapter?
[07:07] <tamzari> HWU54G
[07:08] <tamzari> http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~nils/zydas1211.html
[07:08] <ssstormy> tamzari, ah and also, just for fun try disabling WEP and see if you can connect, to hellp figure out the problem
[07:08] <tamzari> http://alufis35.uv.es/spip/WiFi-54G-support-on-Linux-PPC-with.html
[07:08] <tamzari> k
[07:08] <tamzari> let me do that
[07:08] <Adalwolf> When installing ubuntu, dual boot with WinXP Pro, do both OSes have to be on the same drive?
[07:08] <frank23> hmmm gam_server is taking 50% of my memory. It's the first time it happens. What can I do about it?
[07:08] <intelikey> Adalwolf no
[07:09] <Wammy> ssstormy, dont know if this has anything to do, but the hotplug subsystem errors out on boot. says permision denied on modprobe
[07:10] <ssstormy> Wammy, good god the last time that kinda error came to me, the whole system wouldn't load
[07:10] <Wammy> well i boot up just fine... :/
[07:10] <ssstormy> Wammy, what's your card again?
[07:10] <Wammy> just no sound
[07:10] <Rob_Dude> Is hardware hot swapable in Linux?
[07:10] <Wammy> NeoMagic NM2200
[07:11] <jetscreamer> if your hw supports it there is support in the kernel
[07:11] <Rob_Dude> I added some RAM, but it doesn't seem any faster...do I need to reboot?
[07:11] <jetscreamer> how far that goes, i don't know
[07:11] <intelikey> Rob_Dude some is some isn't.
[07:11] <Rob_Dude> :)
[07:11] <jetscreamer> lol
[07:11] <Adalwolf> I tried installing a few times tonight, and the first few times, GRUB didn't come up, so I switched the drive order in BIOS, GRUB comes up, but ubuntu hangs before the login screen.
[07:11] <jetscreamer> hotswappable ram?
[07:11] <progrock> Will using a lighter weight desktop (like xfce) lengthen battery life much?
[07:11] <Deramin> ssstormy: thanks a bundle! and MP3's too! Now I can move my music collection over and listen to Dvorak while playing card games at work XD
[07:11] <ssstormy> Deramin, ytou're welcome
[07:12] <intelikey> Rob_Dude you need to power off before removing/inserting ram.
[07:12] <jetscreamer> listen to dvorak?
[07:12] <ssstormy> intelikey, duh...
[07:12] <ssstormy> XD
[07:12] <tamzari> if there is a key in front of the squiggly orange signal, does that mean there IS or IS NOT WEP encryption?
[07:12] <cK-gLocK> when i try to run js0
[07:12] <cK-gLocK> it says permission denied
[07:12] <cK-gLocK> and im in root
[07:12] <cK-gLocK> logged in thru terminal
[07:12] <cK-gLocK> as root
[07:13] <ssstormy> Wammy, there is indeed a NeoMagic driver in the kernel
[07:13] <mikebot> ssstormy: didn't recieve any pm
[07:13] <tamzari> maybe a liveCD would better suit my needs
[07:13] <Piete> How do I prevent certain /etc/init.d scripts from starting at boot?
[07:13] <ssstormy> Wammy, you could try building your own kernel
[07:13] <ssstormy> mikebot, try pming me
[07:13] <Wammy> ssstormy, alsa says: alsactl: load_state:1134 no soundcards found
[07:13] <mikebot> ssstormy: done
[07:13] <Wammy> ssstormy, heh id like to not go through that trouble atm :/
[07:13] <ssstormy> mikebot, this is weird
[07:14] <ssstormy> Wammy, you may have too
[07:14] <ssstormy> one minute
[07:14] <purplefeltangel> does anyone know a music player that can get SMALL and stay on top, like winamp?
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> cK-gLocK,  you dont 'run' js0 its a device. :P not a program
[07:14] <mikebot> ssstormy: it may be because i am using giam
[07:14] <mikebot> ssstormy: one moment
[07:14] <cK-gLocK> matisyahu = TEH WIN
[07:14] <cK-gLocK> oh ok im sry
[07:14] <mw> change
[07:14] <cK-gLocK> im still a linux newb
[07:14] <tamzari> me too
[07:14] <ewood> Hm, doesn't get much more WinAMP-ish than XMMS
[07:14] <cK-gLocK> but im a good easy linux newb
[07:14] <Wammy> purplefeltangel, xmms
[07:15] <intelikey> Wammy modprobe snd-<your card>
[07:15] <ssstormy> Wammy, you could try modprobe -v *
[07:15] <cK-gLocK> another thing idlike to learn to do
[07:15] <cK-gLocK> is this..
[07:15] <purplefeltangel> ewood & wammy: is that already on my computer?
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> cK-gLocK,  i still aint got a good program running to test it - lol.. the jstest tool i apt-get isntalled,  core-dumps :P
[07:15] <B_166-ER-X> purplefeltangel,  xmms can do this
[07:15] <cK-gLocK> get my HOTKEYS to work with xmms
[07:15] <ssstormy> Wammy, ah yes that's better, modprobe -v snd-*
[07:15] <mzinz> Best calendar/organizer program for ubuntu?
[07:15] <ssstormy> if that works of course
[07:15] <cK-gLocK> play pause nexttrack prev track stop ect
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> cK-gLocK,  mame has some massive config files you can edit.
[07:15] <wastrel> evolution probably
[07:15] <Aine> ssstormy: Is there a default xorg.conf file?
[07:15] <ssstormy> unfortunalty there does not seem to be a neomagic module
[07:15] <ewood> Well, probably not.. It'll be listed in the add applications thing, though
[07:15] <Wammy> erm
[07:15] <one> i installed ubuntu for the second time and it of course still doesn't recognize my sound card... i saved the code for it but i don't know what to type in the terminal to enter it...anyone got a couple minutes?
[07:15] <ssstormy> Aine, yeah I think so
[07:15] <cK-gLocK> to get hotkeys to work?
[07:15] <mikebot> mikebot2: blah
[07:15] <ssstormy> Wammy, I looked and didn't find any neomagic modules except video
[07:15] <intelikey> Wammy if you have bash-completion enabled,  use the tab key on that modprobe command.
[07:16] <Psykus> where do you block ports under ubuntu?
[07:16] <purplefeltangel> ooh, thanks everyone who suggested XMMS
[07:16] <purplefeltangel> luv yall i'm out <3
[07:16] <ssstormy> Psykus, install firestarter
[07:16] <ewood> ok
[07:16] <mikebot> ssstormy: pm sent from xchat
[07:16] <AngryElf> ssstormy, Kernel Panic'd on the new kernel......ext3 is enabled.....when I booted on this kernel it said the fs was ext2fs......however /etc/fstab says the fs is ext3.....which is it?
[07:16] <Psykus> downloading now, <3 apt-get
[07:16] <Wammy> hmm
[07:16] <jiisu> hey guys
[07:16] <Wammy> ssstormy, dmesg has something interesting
[07:16] <jiisu> im having a problem getting pictures off my digital camera
[07:17] <tamzari> byr
[07:17] <Wammy> nm256: no ac97 found!
[07:17] <tamzari> bye*
[07:17] <Rob_Dude> Hey - is there any way in gaim to keep your away message up and be chatting?  If not, is there another IM program I can use that will do it?
[07:17] <Psykus> best thing about debian based linux :D
[07:17] <one> any1 know how to install a sound card?
[07:17] <jiisu> anyone have any ideas on how to fix this problem?
[07:17] <Wammy> force the driver to load by passing in the module parameter force_ac97=1
[07:17] <ssstormy> AngryElf, umm I'm not sure... if the kernel is detecting ext2, try changing the fstab to ext2
[07:17] <dli> which command to restart X?
[07:17] <Wammy> how do i do that?
[07:17] <intelikey> AngryElf i started to mention while ago that ext3 = ext2 + journal     you may need ext2 in the kernel   sorry for not saying so.
[07:18] <Wammy> ssstormy, ?
[07:18] <intelikey> AngryElf i.e.  ext2 in place of ext3    or both   but not just ext3.
[07:18] <AngryElf> got it
[07:18] <ssstormy> Wammy, I'm not sure...
[07:19] <purplefeltangel> hey i'm back. can someone tell me if theres a way to get XMMS to like, be a tray icon rather than a thing on the panel?
[07:19] <one> please...
[07:19] <ssstormy> Wammy, but if oyu do modprobe -v modulesname force_ac97=1
[07:19] <ssstormy> Wammy, that could do it
[07:19] <mikebot> ssstormy, still not getting the pms?
[07:19] <ssstormy> mikebot, I'm still messaging you
[07:19] <mikebot> ssstormy, hrm, okay, i guess it wasn't meant to be
[07:20] <ssstormy> mikebot, ok just go to the help icon up top, then go to ubuntu starter guide, then go to tips and tricks
[07:20] <mikebot> ssstormy, i'm afraid i don't have that help button anymore
[07:20] <mikebot> ssstormy, oh, i found it elsewhere
[07:20] <ssstormy> mikebot, oh I see.  Is it still installed?
[07:20] <ssstormy> ok
[07:20] <farous> hmm that is really weird. I can not connect to live365 from this machine either eth or wireless from both window and linux. I can connect to it though from my other pc on the same LAN. Does that mean i am black listed there somehow based on mac address ?
[07:20] <jiisu> anyone have any experience with digital cameras and linux?
[07:21] <intelikey> one pull the cover off the box, and insert the card in the apropreate slot...... oh  hehhe  'sudo podprobe snd-<your card> '  sudo alsamixer       and unmute all.
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> jiisu,  most should show up as a usb drive.
[07:21] <Psykus> ok, I have firestarter up
[07:21] <jiisu> Dr_Willis it doesnt..
[07:22] <Psykus> under policy, what do I need to do?
[07:22] <one> intelikey: nice name, sorry, i mean to say ubuntu/inux doesn't recognize the card, is that still effective?
[07:22] <jiisu> Dr_Willis it says that i can import pictures, but when i hit import it does nothing and just sits there
[07:22] <Psykus> nm, figured it out
[07:22] <mikebot> ssstormy, perfect, perfect--thank you
[07:22] <intelikey> one when you get the driver installed via modprobe and all works   add that module name  'the snd-* part'  to /etc/modules.     yes
[07:23] <Psykus> can you specify multiple ports with commas for firestarter?
[07:23] <Wammy> how do i pass a module kernel parameter?
[07:23] <purplefeltangel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9616 <-- i get this when i try to apt-get anything
[07:23] <jiisu> Dr_Willis any ideas?
[07:23] <spec> When trying to boot my usb harddrive, I get "No operating system found.", and if I boot grub off my local drive (hda), grub can "see" hd1, but it doesn't see any of the partitions under it...and I get "Error 25" when trying to boot from it, any pointers?
[07:24] <pingu> Ok, new approach: Does anyone here have any bright ideas on how I would go about getting a 2.6.15 kernel onto a hoary install CD?
[07:24] <jetscreamer> remaster the cd
[07:24] <wastrel> pingu:  mount the iso on the hard drive, add the kernel, burn the modified iso ?
[07:24] <jetscreamer> there's a howto that i know of, but it's debian
[07:25] <one> intelikey: command pod probe not found
[07:25] <jetscreamer> modprobe maybe?
[07:25] <jetscreamer> !tell rut -about root
[07:25] <jetscreamer> gah
[07:25] <intelikey> hu ?
[07:25] <one> intelikey: *podprobe
[07:25] <jetscreamer> him go not come
[07:25] <intelikey> oh typo
[07:25] <intelikey> modprobe
[07:25] <jeff_> after an update im having x problems http://pastebin.com/579733
[07:26] <intelikey> the m and the p are so close to gather you know......
[07:26] <pingu> wastrel: Do you know where I would get the sources.
[07:26] <pingu> Used to build the kernel?
[07:26] <Wammy> modprobe -v snd-nm256 force_ac97=1
[07:26] <Wammy> that gives me nothing, no output
[07:26] <pingu> The no doubt patched beyond recognition "ubuntu" kernel sources?
[07:26] <ssstormy> Wammy, did oyu check dmesg?
[07:26] <purplefeltangel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9616 <-- i get this when i try to apt-get anything. help?
[07:27] <jetscreamer> pingu: maybe you want apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[07:27] <intelikey> Wammy you can lsmod   to see what you have installed...
[07:27] <jetscreamer> if you just want the headers
[07:27] <ssstormy> Usage: modprobe [-v]  [-V]  [-C config-file]  [-n]  [-i]  [-q]  [-o <modname>]  <modname> [parameters...]
[07:27] <pingu> Linux-headers? I don't think so but thanks :D
[07:27] <jetscreamer> if you want to compile your own kernel, get the linux-source
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> jiisu,  mount the thing normally and access it as you would any other usb drive4 perhaps.
[07:27] <Psykus> is there any way to make the vlc player to use the same theme as all your other windows? it's using some old style X11 look at the moment
[07:27] <one> intelikey: wierd, code not registering
[07:27] <rupan3> anyone know a way to set the resolution that xfce uses without actually starting xfce?  i can't find anything that helps anywhere in the docs
[07:27] <jetscreamer> otherwise you want the headers
[07:27] <pingu> Ok, thanks jetscreamer. I'm actually downloading that now.
[07:27] <pingu> It's big though.
[07:27] <rupan3> Psykus: i've been wondering the same thing
[07:27] <one> i got it off the other ubuntu
[07:27] <pingu> I just wanted to make sure :D
[07:27] <wastrel> pingu:  you're trying to change the kernel the CD boots from ?
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> rupan3,  the X res. would be a setting in the X config file.
[07:28] <jiisu> Dr_Willis I'm not very experienced with mounting and such
[07:28] <Wammy> how do i change runlevels?
[07:28] <Psykus> there are skins available for it, but they wouldn't match your gnome theme, http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-skins2.html
[07:28] <jetscreamer> init 3 for instance
[07:28] <liable> telinit
[07:28] <Wammy> ah ok
[07:28] <one> intelikey: should the 'code' look like this: cs4236b?
[07:28] <jiisu> Dr_Willis unless you mean... plugging it in :-p
[07:28] <Wammy> thought it was that way
[07:28] <wastrel> pingu:  i don't know if 2.6.15 is packaged for ubuntu yet, if so it would be in the dapper repo
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> jiisu,  google is our friend. :P   actually ubuntu is normally good at seeing/helping mounting new devices as you plug them in.
[07:28] <rupan3> Dr_Willis: i don't think its that, i ran the dpkg-reconfigure for xserver-xorg and set up the resolution and everything.. but no change.. gdm displays fine, but once i start up the xfce session it changes res and goes all screwy style
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> jiisu,  plug it in, and  run 'dmesg' ina  shell and see.
[07:29] <Aine> Any help with this would be appreaciated. I found my monitors range of H: 30-96 and V: 50-160 but I'm still seeing the weird bars as if the sync range is incorrect.
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> rupan3,  could try removeing your xfce configs and let it reinstall the defaults.
[07:29] <jiisu> Dr_Willis in a terminal you mean?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> jiisu,  correct.
[07:29] <jiisu> Dr_Willis k
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> a terminal runs a shell :P
[07:29] <jeff_> help me? http://pastebin.com/579733
[07:29] <rupan3> hmm
[07:30] <intelikey> one   idk   turn on bash completion  in /etc/profile or /etc/bashrc  and then use the tab key to finish that line     modprobe snd-cs[tab] [tab]
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> rupan3,  i dont even rember xfce having the feature to change the X res. Ive seen it in KDE/GNome but not sure how they do it. OR you could just set ONE resolution in the X config.
[07:30] <Aine> Does anyone know how I can put the lspci results into a file so I can read all the results?
[07:30] <wastrel> i'm thirsty
[07:30] <jiisu> Dr_Willis just dmesg
[07:30] <jiisu> ?
[07:30] <jetscreamer> lspci > file.txt
[07:30] <jetscreamer> lspci | less
[07:30] <Aine> Jetscreamer: Thank you.
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> jiisu,  that will show a large list of 'messages' as to what things are going on in the background. unplug, run dmesg, plug, run it again. :P it should show somthing different at the end
[07:31] <intelikey> one other alternatibe is use ls /lib/modules/[tab] /kernel/sound/[tab] [tab]    and look through them.
[07:31] <jetscreamer> Aine: less /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure your new values for h&v are listed in the monitor device section... and you restarted gdm after you changed it, right?
[07:31] <jiisu> Dr_Willis k
[07:32] <robbie_> apt-get remove phpmyadmin:    /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm: line 12: db_get: command not found
[07:33] <robbie_> dpkg: error processing phpmyadmin (--remove):
[07:33] <robbie_> how do I get rid of that package?
[07:33] <robbie_> it needs to go cos it needs php4, and afaik you cant have php4 and php5 on the same apache server
[07:33] <rupan3> nevermind i was able to fix it by hand.. found the display.xml file in ~/.config/xfce4/mcs_settings/
[07:33] <rupan3> phew
[07:33] <rupan3> that had me annoyed.. all my music is on that box and i couldn't get to xmms :p
[07:33] <jetscreamer> !info cplay
[07:34] <ubotu> cplay: (A front-end for various audio players), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 1.49-7 (breezy), Packaged size: 39 kB, Installed size: 232 kB
[07:34] <Aine> Jetscreamer: My lspci whos 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 00c1 (rev a2) ... would that cause my problem?
[07:34] <rupan3> hmmm
[07:34] <pingu> :/
[07:34] <pingu> Ok, I need a debian packager.
[07:34] <pingu> Any hands?
[07:35] <jetscreamer> Aine: what card is it.
[07:35] <Aine> Nvidia Geforce 6800 PCI-e
[07:35] <jetscreamer> Aine: what driver for xorg are you using
[07:35] <intelikey>  p i n g o     p i n g o    p i n g o   and pingo was his name-o
[07:35] <pingu> No, debian package managers?
[07:36] <Aine> Jetscreamer: the default for breazy, nv. I haven't had the chance to upgrade.
[07:36] <intelikey> oh that's bingo,  never mind.
[07:36] <drakonan> hey everyone, anyone in here got a lucent modem working on 5.10?
[07:36] <mangelo> bleh now that i got the gui installed nothings loading, and xlib returned to me an error :|
[07:37] <Malachi> Does anyone know if you can synchronize calendars in Evolution?
[07:37] <intelikey> thank you, thank you.   and for my next act....
[07:37] <amicrawler> were do i get new src for deb
[07:37] <mhess> NO! i installed a theme that crashes everything
[07:37] <mhess> is there a way i can change it from the terminal?
[07:37] <wastrel> mhess:  check in ~/.themes/
[07:38] <mhess> wastrel: its empty
[07:38] <intelikey> amicrawler enable the source packages in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:38] <wastrel> mhess:  gnome?
[07:38] <mhess> didn't see it there
[07:38] <mhess> i'm looking at the gconf tools
[07:39] <jetscreamer> nv shuld work
[07:39] <Wammy> what comes after warty ?
[07:39] <intelikey> Malachi this is linux,  you can do anything except what you are wanting to do at the time.
[07:39] <wastrel> warty, hoary, breezy, dapper
[07:39] <amicrawler> nope looking for some new src  like games that are in suse
[07:39] <jetscreamer> !info xserver-xorg
[07:39] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server (dummy package)), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-77 (breezy), Packaged size: 267 kB, Installed size: 700 kB
[07:39] <Malachi> intelikey: Seriously, though.
[07:39] <mangelo> http://pastebin.com/579739  is an error i got in console, now nothing will load as i click around on the GUI desktop
[07:40] <wastrel> amicrawler:  what games?
[07:40] <drakonan> can a newbie compile an lt_modem driver with some help? it looks like with breezy there is no automated method for my modem :'(
[07:40] <amicrawler> like 3d games
[07:40] <amicrawler> do i do a apt-install what ever file i wish
[07:41] <Aine> Jetscreamer: if the lspci showed it at 0000:01:00.0, is the video cards bus identifier going to be  PCI:1:0:0  ?
[07:41] <jetscreamer> yes Aine but you can also leave it blank
[07:41] <jetscreamer> Aine: wait no
[07:41] <wastrel> amicrawler:  use synaptic or http://packages.ubuntu.com  to search for the things you want
[07:41] <wastrel> drakonan:  first thing is to install build-essential
[07:41] <robbie_> phpmyadmin's uninstall script failed. I want to purge it completely, delete everything. how do I do that? dpkg --force-help doesnt give me any help
[07:41] <jetscreamer> Aine: 1:0:0 IS AGP afaik
[07:42] <intelikey> Malachi if one is a master you could just copy it over.... but as for other methods (i'm sure there are some)  i have no idea Malachi,  i don't even have a gui.   and didn't like evolution when they took the wether report out of it, i stopped using it.
[07:42] <drakonan> all right, i'm doing that part now, but after thati have no clue w
[07:42] <Syns> whats a good vpn client?
[07:42] <Malachi> They took it out?
[07:42] <intelikey> Malachi is it in your evolution ?
[07:42] <wastrel> drakonan:  is it a kernel module?  you'll need the kernel headers,  linux-headers-<your-cpu-architecture>  (386, 686, matching whatever kernel you are using)
[07:43] <Malachi> I see the option to create a new weather calendar...
[07:43] <intelikey> weather calendar?
[07:43] <mangelo> url __ http://pastebin.com/579739 __  is an error i got in console, now nothing will load as i click around on the GUI desktop
[07:44] <mangelo> and ive no clue what to do :|
[07:44] <weed> hello
[07:44] <mangelo> sup
[07:44] <weed> you cant help me
[07:44] <mangelo> probably not
[07:44] <weed> why
[07:44] <mangelo> why?
[07:44] <weed> you no ccant help me
[07:45] <pingu> Arrgh, this package is weird!
[07:45] <Aine> Jetscreamer: after changing my xorg.conf should I reboot the actual machine or just x
[07:45] <mangelo> *shrug* you said it first, i was agreeing
[07:45] <pingu> Where is the ubuntu developer channel?
[07:45] <cK-gLocK> what prog do ppl use to run windows games on linux? like serious sam ect ect or maybe even FEAR :D
[07:45] <Syns> whats a good vpn client?
[07:45] <robbie_> setting synaptics filter to "Broken" shows all packages, not just the broken one
[07:45] <intelikey> mangelo ran some gui app as root did ya ?
[07:45] <jetscreamer> Aine: it looks like pci-e 'might' be 01:05.0  .. just /etc/init.d/gdm restart ... or ?dm ... or just restart x
[07:46] <intelikey> mangelo like nautilus maybe ?
[07:46] <Aine> I just restarted X
[07:46] <drakonan> all right wastrel, it's installing the headers and the essentials
[07:46] <Wolfwood> BUNA DIMINEATA
[07:46] <jetscreamer> i'd just leave the busid one blank till you know for sure
[07:46] <mangelo> i ran gimp and gedit on accident under root...from the terminal
[07:46] <mangelo> would that be the reason?
[07:46] <robbie_> how do I show broken packages? google is no help
[07:46] <Aine> Jetscreamer: Should I try 01:05.0 ?
[07:46] <weed> what do i need to join
[07:47] <kon-f-uzed> oh man
[07:47] <weed> hello
[07:47] <jetscreamer> aine you should leave it blank. blank is perfectly fine.
[07:48] <drakonan> wastrel, ?
[07:48] <wastrel> drakonan:  so you've got the source unpacked for your modem thingy?
[07:48] <mangelo> intelikey, would that be the reason im getting the error?
[07:48] <kon-f-uzed> it appears that something is behaving with these w32 codecs. synaptic says its installed bu I still cant play any test movies with totem
[07:48] <wastrel> drakonan:  it should come with a README or INSTALL,
[07:48] <kon-f-uzed> please help, ive reinstalled totem aswell which did not help either
[07:48] <Aine> Jetscremer: Would you recommend me using kernel framebuffer device interface ?
[07:48] <intelikey> mangelo i sujest you user  [alt] +[ctrl] +[f2]    login and run  'sudo rm /home/<you>/.*auth* '    switch back to tty7  [alt] +[f7]    and  kill x       [ctrl] +[alt] +[backspace]      don't worry it will restart.
[07:49] <kon-f-uzed> it even has seveas workign I think
[07:49] <kon-f-uzed> there is the multimedia package installed
[07:49] <drakonan> nope, but i'll get it right now
[07:49] <weed> can you help me instal the program webadmin
[07:50] <intelikey> mangelo if that doesn't fix it for you.  then i expect to hear from you shortly.
[07:50] <weed> please
[07:50] <wastrel> weed have you added the universe repository?
[07:50] <varsendagger> weed, sudo apt-get install webadmin
[07:50] <jetscreamer> aine no fb is bad for nvidia.. also make sure dri isn't selected.
[07:50] <weed> no
[07:50] <kon-f-uzed> any pages on troble shooting totem when videos wont play
[07:51] <varsendagger> how do i find out how much bandwith i have
[07:51] <jetscreamer> and gl_core, but that's not even an option anymore
[07:51] <varsendagger> weed, !repos
[07:51] <Jewishbob> can someone give me the thread that has the terminal commands to install automatix
[07:51] <drakonan> hey wastrel should i try the debs or rpm or something?: http://www.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/heby/ltmodem/
[07:51] <Aine> Jetscreamer: Xorg is loading GLcore and dri, should I unselect them
[07:51] <intelikey> weed   methinks it's  webmin   not webadmin.
[07:51] <drakonan> or go ahead with compiling?
[07:52] <varsendagger> !repositories
[07:52] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:52] <weed> E: Couldn't find package webadmin
[07:52] <intelikey> weed   methinks it's  webmin   not webadmin.
[07:52] <intelikey> !info webmin
[07:52] <jetscreamer> Aine: dri & glcore bad, glx good.
[07:52] <ubotu> webmin: (web-based administration toolkit), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.230-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1154 kB, Installed size: 6368 kB
[07:52] <Jewishbob> can someone give me the thread that has the terminal commands to install automatix
[07:53] <Jewishbob> i want to show someone
[07:53] <mangelo> kk intelikey, its restarting now
[07:53] <weed> how can i finded
[07:53] <hks> helo
[07:53] <varsendagger> weed,  enable you repositories
[07:53] <varsendagger> !repositories
[07:53] <wastrel> drakonan:  sec
[07:53] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:53] <jetscreamer> Aine: framebuffer bad also
[07:53] <intelikey> weed read ubotu  above ^
[07:54] <intelikey> both of them weed
[07:54] <hks> i just installed ubuntu and i dont know my root password as it didnt't gave me that option when i was installing it
[07:54] <hks> is there a default root password or something like that ?
[07:54] <wastrel> !automatix
[07:54] <ubotu> Automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[07:54] <jetscreamer> sudo
[07:54] <varsendagger> ha ha overkill
[07:54] <timfrost> !root
[07:54] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:54] <hks> thx
[07:54] <Jewishbob> lol
[07:54] <varsendagger> waht does automatix doe?
[07:55] <mqw> foo
[07:55] <wastrel> drakonan:  what kernel version are you using?
[07:55] <mangelo> intelikey, it worked, thanks =)
[07:55] <intelikey> you bet mangelo
[07:55] <wastrel> !easyubuntu
[07:55] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[07:55] <weed> thank you very much P.R
[07:55] <wastrel> easyubuntu is preferred to automatix
[07:56] <drakonan> the newest out wastrel
[07:56] <Aine> Jetscreamer: Still seeing a black screen with small white blocks :(
[07:56] <drakonan> i'm at this site, but nothing looks new enough, there's a link to a beta site, but i don't see anything of value - http://www.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/heby/ltmodem/
[07:56] <wastrel> drakonan:  you'll have to compile from source, the binary packages are all for 2.6.8...  newest on breezy is 2.6.12
[07:57] <drakonan> http://www.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/heby/ltmodem/
[07:57] <jetscreamer> Aine: are you sure about the h&v rates? also, less /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less
[07:57] <drakonan> oops, meant to paste version: 2.6.12-10-386
[07:57] <jetscreamer> look for EE
[07:57] <drakonan> all right, where is the 2.6 source at though?
[07:57] <jetscreamer> or just grep it
[07:57] <Aine> Jetscreamer: According to dells website, its   Horizontal scan range  30 kHz to 96 kHz  (automatic)   Verticalscan range  50 Hz to 160 Hz  (automatic)
[07:57] <drakonan> is there a standard way of compiling everthing?
[07:58] <intelikey>
[07:58] <jetscreamer> wtf
[07:58] <intelikey> Aine dell monitor ?
[07:58] <Aine> Intelikey: Yes, Dell M993c
[07:58] <wastrel> drakonan:  eew i was reading the version numbers wrong - these are all for 2.4 kernels?
[07:59] <drakonan> wait, guess what looks like this repository has something:
[07:59] <drakonan> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/kernel-2.6/Ubuntu/
[07:59] <wastrel> no there's 2.6 versions
[08:00] <drakonan> google has failed me
[08:00] <drakonan> but that link looks all right
[08:00] <intelikey> hsync 30-96  , vrefresh 50-160   hmmmmm  what's in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf    Aine ?
[08:00] <Aine> intelikey: Exactly that. Option DPMS with those ranges
[08:01] <wastrel> drakonan:  it's right above the box with the 2.4 source versions - sez 2.6 version is beta... http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/resources.html
[08:01] <intelikey> Aine did you paste your xorg.conf already ?
[08:01] <Mordof> anyone know of any decent server/client games that i can download that are fun with like.. 2-8 people?
[08:01] <Aine> Intelikey: I am running this through terminal as I can't get X to work on my desktop. I'm chatting off my laptop
[08:02] <Aine> Mordof: check www.americasarmy.com
[08:02] <intelikey> ek
[08:02] <Aine> Intelikey: But I'd type the whole thing out before going back to windows for everything :)
[08:02] <wastrel> drakonan:  this looks non-trivial ;]
[08:03] <dli> what's the tool to configure dial-up?
[08:03] <Mordof> Aine, ermm... stuff like random dungeons, gui / cli games
[08:03] <Aine> Mordof: Oh, sorry, no...I can't play those games..not enough attention span hehe
[08:03] <Jewishbob> last night i somehow flipped the applications/places/system tabs and the date&time how do i put it back?
[08:04] <intelikey> i'd try with  v = 52-150    because those are common in xorg     and  h = 31-72       then if it works you can raise the 72 a bit Aine
[08:04] <wastrel> drakonan:  ah yes :]  those debs look good
[08:04] <Jewishbob> 3+
[08:04] <Jewishbob> 0202
[08:04] <Jewishbob> sorry cat
[08:04] <drakonan> awesome, hey i'm trying to install "kernel-kbuild-3.6" as per the instructions, but apt-get doesn't find it, is that ok?
[08:05] <Jewishbob> last night i somehow flipped the applications/places/system tabs and the date&time how do i put it back?
[08:05] <farous> Jewishbob: just use your right mouse botton to move them
[08:05] <wastrel> what is kernel-kbuild?
[08:05] <drakonan> no clue
[08:05] <wastrel> which instructions?
[08:05] <intelikey> cause i don't know which way xorg falls when it steps in a hole.....    safe thing would be fall toword safe.   but that may not be what it's doing.   Aine
[08:05] <ddonky> anyone know why flash sound is kinda squeeky like a chipmonk?
[08:06] <drakonan> in the same dir as those deb's: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/kernel-2.6/Ubuntu/ubuntu-install.html
[08:06] <Aine> Intelikey: No go...still seeing bars and colors when i try to start x
[08:06] <Jewishbob> farous: it wont go past the time
[08:06] <drakonan> maybe i just need the deb's?
[08:06] <Aine> Intelikey: I'm thinking the auto detect of the PCI bus is incorrect :)
[08:07] <farous> Jewishbob: unlock it . you will see a check sign beside lock. just click on it and it will move
[08:07] <drakonan> is there a way to have dpkg install a deb and its dependencies at once?
[08:07] <jetscreamer> Aine: did you grep or less the log
[08:07] <intelikey> Aine  (newbish idea)  did you try   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   and enable/disable (which ever it's not) vesa?
[08:08] <jetscreamer> yes list all the packages.. dpkg -i pkg1 pkg2 pkg3.....
[08:08] <jetscreamer> or have a subdir and dpkg -i *.deb maybe
[08:08] <jetscreamer> not sure
[08:08] <Aine> Jetscreamer: Can you explain that a bit more?
[08:09] <jetscreamer> Aine: are you sure about the h&v rates? also, less /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less
[08:09] <jetscreamer> deja vu sorry
[08:09] <quitenormal> hi.
[08:09] <jetscreamer> easier to uparrow
[08:09] <slvmchn> i can convert mp3s to ogg via 'sox' but not mp3 -> ogg, any advice
[08:09] <dli> which tool to dial up?
[08:09] <slvmchn> i can listen to / edit mp3s, but not convert/save AS mp3
[08:10] <intelikey> jetscreamer correction to Aine   not  'less  /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less '    but  grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less
[08:10] <drakonan> hallelujiah, it looks like it's going to work!!!
[08:10] <Aine> Jetscreamer: Yes, according to dell, the rates are correct. In the ess /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less   what am i looking for
[08:10] <liable> dli: pon/poff, wvdial or the clicky one in network settings.
[08:10] <jetscreamer> that was under what i said, i could uparrow back....
[08:10] <quitenormal> slvmchn another command line tool is ecasound. That's a multitrack recorder studio too, but it does file conversions.
[08:10] <wastrel> drakonan:  yeah that kbuild business is for compiling the deal, you have the .deb so you're good to go
[08:10] <drakonan> now, if only i had a way to test this modem without a phone line
[08:10] <jetscreamer> wayy back
[08:10] <Aine> Intelikey: I will try that
[08:11] <cK-gLocK> anyo0ne know why i cant view video clips in firefox?
[08:11] <cK-gLocK> the mplayer thing initializes and buffers
[08:11] <wastrel> drakonan:  send it atdt and see what it says
[08:11] <cK-gLocK> but all i get is audio
[08:11] <cK-gLocK> novideo
[08:11] <cK-gLocK> =(
[08:11] <slvmchn> quitenormal: it's going to ask me for liblame.so though isn't it
[08:11] <jetscreamer> no codec maybe cK-gLocK
[08:11] <Aine> Intelikey: No such file or directory (END)
[08:11] <Aine> Oops
[08:11] <slvmchn> what file do i edit to change my repos?
[08:11] <Wammy> question: if i remove ubuntu-desktop will that leave me whitha  plain command line linux? no X or GUI apps?
[08:11] <Aine> damn caps sensitive
[08:11] <cK-gLocK> know what i can do to fix it?
[08:11] <cK-gLocK> what codec would fix it
[08:11] <Jewishbob> farous: ok i got it, see last night i pushed some button and it automatically switched
[08:11] <cK-gLocK> for video clips on net
[08:11] <cK-gLocK> i wanna look at funny www.filecabi.net videos
[08:11] <cK-gLocK> lol
[08:11] <jetscreamer> depends on the video
[08:11] <otorinolaringolo> does anybody here use fedora
[08:12] <timfrost> slvmchn, /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:12] <ejofee> all my gtk apps lag (for different intervals)... anybody have any idea why?
[08:12] <slvmchn> oto: try #fedora ?
[08:12] <jetscreamer> Wammy: no it wouldn't
[08:12] <farous> Jewishbob: great :)
[08:12] <jetscreamer> that is a metapackage
[08:12] <Wammy> ...?
[08:12] <dli> liable: thanks
[08:12] <cK-gLocK> whats a good codec pack i could get for ubuntu
[08:12] <Aine> Intelikey: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[08:12] <quitenormal> slvmchn I have the same problem. I just a write shell script that converts the ogg to wave, then uses lame to convert it to mp3.
[08:12] <cK-gLocK> to view videos in firefox?
[08:13] <drakonan> is there a gnome gui dialer? this linux box is going to be my grandfather's
[08:13] <slvmchn> to add the multiverse do i just copy/paste that line "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted" but change "universe" to "multiverse"?
[08:13] <jetscreamer> Aine: that's not the one
[08:13] <quitenormal> drakonan gnome-ppp.
[08:13] <slvmchn> and " deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe" , change that to multiverse too?
[08:13] <Aine> cK-Glock: There should be a firefox movie player...search in the repository for firefox and there should be one.
[08:13] <intelikey> Aine did you try the reconfigure approach ?   like i mentioned ^ up there ?
[08:13] <cK-gLocK> k nice
[08:14] <Aine> jetscreamer, if you mean less  /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less   I typed it in, but had no idea what to do with it.
[08:14] <jetscreamer> ahh
[08:14] <jetscreamer> yes the reconfigure was done
[08:14] <timfrost> slvmchn, ADD multiverse (universe has free packages, multiverse has packages that don't meet the criteria for "free")
[08:14] <elkbuntu> hmmmmm... should i be worried if when i do 'apt-cache show gtk' it says it cant be found?
[08:14] <defrysk> slvmchn, no just add multiverse to those lines otherwise you'll get double entries
[08:14] <jetscreamer> soci0path: sudo apt-get install hwinfo mdetect read-edid   <--imo
[08:15] <jetscreamer> wtf?
 Aine  (newbish idea)  did you try   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   and enable/disable (which ever it's not) vesa?
[08:15] <jetscreamer> i did not hit tab
[08:15] <slvmchn> so change it to deb "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse main restricted
[08:15] <slvmchn>  "
[08:15] <slvmchn> ?
[08:15] <wastrel> elkbuntu:  i think you want apt-cache search
[08:15] <slvmchn> or just change universe to multiverse
[08:15] <jetscreamer> aine so sudo apt-get install hwinfo mdetect read-edid   <--imo
[08:15] <elkbuntu> wastrel: i'm not looking to -get- it .. in theory i should already have it
[08:15] <jetscreamer> then run sudo hwinfo --monitor
[08:15] <Aine> Intelikey yes, I've done the  reconfigure, but what would I be enabling/disabling ?
[08:15] <defrysk> slvmchn, dont add any lines just put the word multiverse behind the word universe
[08:16] <intelikey> VESA
[08:16] <timfrost> slvmchn, it should read "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse main restricted"
[08:16] <defrysk> slvmchn, in eny line you se the word universe
[08:16] <defrysk> see*
[08:16] <cK-gLocK> mplayer still tries to init
[08:16] <slvmchn> ok thanks guys
[08:16] <cK-gLocK> so the video still arent viewing
[08:16] <jetscreamer> it's the nv driver on a 6800 or so i think
[08:16] <cK-gLocK> just audio
[08:16] <cK-gLocK> BLAH MAN..
[08:16] <cK-gLocK> lol
[08:16] <jetscreamer> atm
[08:16] <jetscreamer> pci-e
[08:16] <wastrel> elkbuntu:  but show requires the package name.  gtk is not a package name
[08:16] <Aine> Jet, couldn't find package hwinfo
[08:16] <elkbuntu> what is the package name then?
[08:17] <jetscreamer> Aine: universe or multiverse
[08:17] <elkbuntu> i cant see for sure when i'm in CLI cos dapper is broken and a million + 1 things go past the screen
[08:17] <Wammy> man, doing dist-upgrade from warty is a pain in the butt.
[08:17] <cK-gLocK> whats the respository?
[08:17] <cK-gLocK> do i gotta get it from there?
[08:17] <Aine> Haven't been able to enable the universal repository yet.
[08:17] <Wammy> im barely on hoary
[08:17] <wastrel> elkbuntu:  probably libgtk  or libgtk2.0 or something.  depending on what you are looking for
[08:17] <jetscreamer> !info read-edid
[08:17] <ubotu> read-edid: (hardware information-gathering tool for VESA PnP monitors), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1.4.1-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 12 kB, Installed size: 72 kB
[08:17] <quitenormal> nothing wrong with hoary.
[08:18] <otorinolaringolo> where can i discuss fedorA?
[08:18] <drakonan> hmm, i can't find gnome-ppp in the apt-cache, can i use kppp in gnome without problems?
 nothing wrong with hoary.        what ?
[08:18] <Wammy> quitenormal, true, however im trying to upgrade alsa/kernel/etc. to see if that automatically fixes my soundcard
[08:18] <wastrel> !info gnome-ppp
[08:18] <Wammy> lol
[08:18] <ubotu> gnome-ppp: (modem internet connection tool for GNOME), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.3.21-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 81 kB, Installed size: 608 kB
[08:18] <quitenormal> drakonan should be able to.
[08:18] <wastrel> it's in universe
[08:18] <Aine> Jetscreamer: Would I need the universal repository enabled?
[08:18] <jetscreamer> drakonan: you can usually use kde apps w/o problems
[08:18] <Madpilot> otorinolaringolo, there's a #fedora channel...
[08:18] <timfrost> Aine, jetscreamer, hwinfo is in universe for breezy.
[08:18] <drakonan> do i need to uncomment universe?
[08:18] <jetscreamer> aine universe , yes
[08:18] <quitenormal> intelikey nothing wrong with hoary.
[08:19] <Madpilot> drakonan, it's usually a good idea
[08:19] <elkbuntu> wastrel: i'm checking to see if gtk is installed at all, since i've upgraded to dapper and dont even get the greet screen
[08:19] <Aine> Jetscreamer: how can I enable it through terminal
[08:19] <daidungsi> oh sorry
[08:19] <hungry-hobo> hey guys i had a slight lil question and i hate toi just pop in and ask as it is annoying but here goes anyway (just apologizing b4 hand)..I installed a new 160 ide ata hard drive..a seagate barracuda..Im trying to get it mnounted and having quite some troubles..i split the hard drive up ..i have a primary linux partition thats like 10 gigs..then i have another fat32/vfat partition so that i can use it for universal storage betwee
[08:19] <hungry-hobo> n windows and linux
[08:19] <elkbuntu> wastrel: libgtk2.0 shows nothing either
[08:19] <jetscreamer> Aine: nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list or some other editor
[08:19] <wastrel> elkbuntu:  locate libgtk
[08:19] <Wammy> libgtk-2.00
[08:19] <daidungsi> can you show me the way to install hping
[08:19] <timfrost> drakonan, yes, you need universe
[08:19] <Wammy> libgtk-2.0
[08:19] <intelikey> quitenormal you're not one of those guys that uses software more than ten days old are you ?    cause we at ubuntu don't like that.
[08:19] <hungry-hobo> well im familiar with using the mount command but for the life of me i cant get it to mount..
[08:19] <wastrel> elkbuntu:  it just dumps you on the console?  apt-cache show gdm   maybe
[08:20] <intelikey> :)
[08:20] <quitenormal> intelikey surely u jest. hehe.
[08:20] <elkbuntu> wastrel: you wouldnt believe it, locate engine is not functioning either
[08:20] <wastrel> elkbuntu:  updatedb ?
[08:20] <ejofee> all my gtk apps lag (for different intervals)... anybody have any idea why?
[08:20] <intelikey> p i n g o     p i n g o   .......
[08:20] <elkbuntu> wastrel: well it dumps me in the console and for a good half hour kept trying to go into x but couldnt
[08:21] <hungry-hobo> also when i use the gnome menu and navigate to system >  preferences > disks i can see my hd that i'm referring to...and the 'enable' key is not greyed out for the partitions but when i click enable nothing happens!!it's gfotta be something simple.i mean surely i don't need it in /etc/fstab just to mount it?! but thats alli know to think about
[08:21] <Aine> Jetscreamer: Installing it now.
[08:21] <jetscreamer> Aine: pastebin your xorg.conf if you can
[08:21] <wastrel> elkbuntu:  seems to be   libgtk2.0-0  libgtk1.2   for breezy
[08:21] <Aine> jetscreamer: Can't, running terminal on my desktop where Im installing it...I'm currently typing off my laptop.
[08:21] <jetscreamer> yeah i know
[08:22] <elkbuntu> wastrel: ok, it listed off a heap of stuff with locate then, so gtk is here
[08:22] <hungry-hobo> but any help any of u uber reet power users could throw my way would be greatly appreciated...just not sure how to google it is the only reason i come to  u guys for help
[08:22] <hungry-hobo> cause as i said i know the mount command thoroughly
[08:22] <Aine> Jetscreamer: hwinfo is installed. Pastebin is a command? I thought it was just a typo :)
[08:22] <jetscreamer> Aine: no it's a website
[08:22] <elkbuntu> wastrel: apt-cache show gdm shows what appears to be an info file, since it scrolls past fast and i dont see much of it
[08:22] <jetscreamer> well there are many rather
[08:22] <jetscreamer> Aine: sudo hwinfo --monitor  and lets see if dell's site is right
[08:23] <hungry-hobo> nm i got it
[08:23] <wastrel> elkbuntu:  apt-cache policy  has shorter output, or pipe it thru less
[08:23] <hungry-hobo> thanks anyway
[08:23] <Madpilot> !tell Aine about pastebin
[08:23] <drakonan> awesome you guys, you've helped me out a lot tonight, thanks for your help, it's 1 and i've got to be up at 6 tomorrow so i better hit the sack
[08:23] <drakonan> thanks again wastrel
[08:23] <slvmchn> i still can't make mp3s, i just got 'soundconverter', i know i must have lame installed because i can LISTEN to mp3s, help someone?
[08:23] <intelikey> your welcome hungry-hobo    saved me lots of typing...
[08:23] <hungry-hobo> in case anyone cares or is listening..i just needed to enter an 'access path' for it through the gui 'disks' manager :)
[08:23] <wastrel> yw
[08:23] <elkbuntu> wastrel: so apt-cache show gdm > less ?
[08:24] <intelikey> hungry-hobo aka   mount point
[08:24] <wastrel> elkbuntu:  apt-cache policy gdm  instead
[08:24] <hungry-hobo> sure would like to know how to fix it command line style cuz i feel like i just cheated myself outta some god learning by doing it gui style :)
[08:24] <elkbuntu> ah
[08:24] <hungry-hobo> intelikey, lol man
[08:24] <wastrel> elkbuntu:  and pipe to less would be    | less   fyi
[08:24] <hungry-hobo> :)
[08:24] <elkbuntu> wastrel: well it says it's installed
[08:24] <Aine> Jetscreamer, where can I view the results
[08:25] <wastrel> elkbuntu:  sounds like your x server isn't configured properly then
[08:25] <jetscreamer> Aine: it didn't paste a bunch of stuff in your console i take it
[08:25] <elkbuntu> so dpkg-reconfigure xserver?
[08:25] <elkbuntu> maybe?
[08:25] <jetscreamer> Aine: you used sudo, correct?
[08:25] <wastrel> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  probably
[08:25] <defrysk> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:25] <intelikey> hungry-hobo what's your mount command on that?   if you really want to learn what happened there.
[08:25] <mikebot> wastrel, can you reccomend a to-do list type program?
[08:25] <Aine> Jetscreamer: sudo hwinfo --monitor displayed something at the bottom and it disappeared
[08:25] <elkbuntu> thx.. i'll try
[08:25] <fangorious> i've downloaded and burned the flight4 live cd for i386 3 times now, and it seems to always come up with "could not find ramdisk image: /install
[08:26] <jetscreamer> Aine: i get that when i 'don't' use sudo
[08:26] <wastrel> mikebot:  i use evolution... it's more integrated than i think you're looking for
[08:26] <fangorious> i can't eve run the cd check from its boot menu
[08:26] <defrysk> fangorious, perhaps you have to burn it on a slower speed
[08:26] <mikebot> wastrel, ah, yeah, i just want a simple,no menu to-do list
[08:26] <Aine> I typed sudo :)  typed sudo hwinfo --monitor
[08:26] <Aine> should I sudo -s ?
[08:26] <AngryElf> is ncurses-devel a part of another package that I can install from synaptic?
[08:27] <fangorious> defrysk: guess i'll try that, but each time it was burned from a different machine
[08:27] <Aine> Jetscreamer: Doing just sudo hwinfo pasted a lot ... is --monitor the correct switch?
[08:27] <mikebot> wastrel, do you know if wine would allow yahoo widgets to work?
[08:27] <hungry-hobo> intelikey, well i would use 'mount -t fat32 /dev/hdb2 /media/hdb'
[08:27] <defrysk> fangorious, its just a suggestion
[08:28] <wastrel> no idea... dont much mess with wine.   apt-cache search todo  brings up gtodo - GNOME to-do list manager
[08:28] <wastrel> among other things...
[08:28] <jetscreamer> Aine: sudo hwinfo --monitor --log log.txt
[08:28] <fangorious> defrysk: it's the usual reply i get for burned cd images, which i never think of myself, and usually turns out to be correct ...
[08:28] <hungry-hobo> but i think i answered my own question haha lol
[08:28] <theBishop> i have a broadcom wireless nic, ubuntu seems to recognize it and even loads the driver, but i can't get an IP
[08:28] <jetscreamer> Aine: or any name for the log
[08:28] <intelikey> you would need to sudo that hungry-hobo.   and also probably want to add  -o umask=0       to make it user writable.
[08:28] <jetscreamer> Aine: then less log.txt
[08:29] <intelikey> hungry-hobo the type is  -t vfat   on that also.
[08:29] <hungry-hobo> and i been having this prob for like a week and i think i know what i did..i dunno what that 'enable' button did..and the only way i know how to fin my partitions in 'cat /proc/partitions' although i don't know the command to find my physical drives and name them for me
[08:30] <hungry-hobo> i was try to mount /dec/hdb as a whole instead of trying to mount the partition i wanted to access such as /dev/hdb2 ..does that make sense and am i a dumbass?
[08:30] <Aine> Jetscreamer: What will I be looking for in this file?
[08:30] <intelikey> hungry-hobo you can find partitions with  'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd* /dev/sd* '
[08:30] <timfrost> !info libncurses5-dev
[08:30] <ubotu> libncurses5-dev: (Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 5.4-9ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 1218 kB, Installed size: 5656 kB
[08:31] <hungry-hobo> when i was doing that it was going on about bad superblock, or filesystem or blah blah..u know the rest :)buti think thats what i was doing wrong..just really would like to know what the 'enable' button really does
[08:31] <jetscreamer> Aine: at the bottom are the h&v rates as detected by hwinfo... btw you installed read-edid & mdetect at the same time eh
[08:31] <hungry-hobo> the button in the disks manager that is
[08:31] <intelikey> hungry-hobo or use ? in place of * to expedite
[08:31] <hungry-hobo> intelikey, thank u for your input and help bro i appreciate it
[08:31] <Aine> mdetect?
[08:32] <jetscreamer> well dang, it's not at the bottom.. yeah it's detects mice
[08:32] <otorinolaringolo> i love fedora. fedora rocks.
[08:32] <lycaos> Hi all, who is french here?
[08:32] <timfrost> AngryElf, check out libncurses5-dev
[08:32] <jetscreamer> for xorg
[08:32] <jetscreamer> !fr
[08:32] <ubotu> well, fr is Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais
[08:32] <hungry-hobo> whats the cmd to find my connected hard drives?? i know 'lspci' is for pci devices but...
[08:32] <intelikey> anytime.    and like i said  there is no  -t fat32   it's  -t vfat   hungry-hobo        lshw
[08:32] <lycaos> ok thanks
[08:32] <otorinolaringolo> I LOVE FEDORA! :-)
[08:33] <jewishbob> how hard is it to duel boot ubuntu and windows
[08:33] <elkbuntu> wastrel: well i tried startx after doing the reconfigure and it says it's already running...
[08:33] <Aine> Jewishbob, not at all.
[08:33] <jewishbob> dual*
[08:33] <wastrel> elkbuntu:  i suggest rebooting :]
[08:33] <hungry-hobo> intelikey, yeah uwere right about the no fat32..it is vfat after all.....i can mo unt it manually now like i like to do..i try to use command line a lot cuz i get more verbose output for debugging rather than looking at a launch feedback bouncy cursor for 30 seconds lol
[08:33] <intelikey> otorinolaringolo I LOVE MANDRAKE !    lets have an  other distro lovers party....
[08:33] <otorinolaringolo> i love fedora. but dual boot shouldnt be a problem.
[08:33] <jewishbob> aine, ok what about for someone who doesnt know linux at all
[08:33] <elkbuntu> wastrel: i'm scaaaared :P
[08:33] <elkbuntu> brb
[08:34] <Aine> Jetscreamer: Can you give me the name of the mdetect that I need to install?
[08:34] <b3nw> has anyone gotten matroska video's working in dapper with gstreamer-10 ?
[08:34] <intelikey> hungry-hobo i don't have a gui here.
[08:34] <Aine> Jewishbob: Not at all :) install windows then linux, GRUB should detect windows and add it to the loader.
[08:34] <yuri_> hi, I need help making a launcher for ABC torrent. The command is "python ./abc.py". what do I write in the "command" of the launcher so that it executes that code in the specified directory?
[08:34] <hungry-hobo> i will prolly google and find out what that enable button really does cuz I like to know whats going on behind the scenes and learn how to do stuff manually if needed, cuz u never know when u need to do some repairing via runlevel 1/2
[08:35] <otorinolaringolo> when is new fedora coming out?
[08:35] <rysiek|pl> hi there guys, USplash question: when I add an usplash, following the wiki instructions, is it "added" or does it replace the previous usplash?
[08:35] <intelikey> hungry-hobo you are in runlevel 2 atm
[08:35] <intelikey> :)
[08:35] <hungry-hobo> intelikey, so then could u tell me..when u install a brand new hd and format it and junk..is there somethiing u need to do b4 u can start mounting it??
[08:35] <hungry-hobo> intelikey, yeah my brain is :)
[08:35] <jewishbob> aine, ok what about for someone who doesnt know linux at all
[08:36] <intelikey> lol   do   runlevel
[08:36] <hungry-hobo> cuz i just wanna know wtf that 'ebnable' button did heh..if it did anything
[08:36] <mikebot> anyone use gdesklets?
[08:36] <Aine> Jewishbob: If you are using Ubuntu, it comes with GRUB...so when you install Ubuntu it will install GRUB which will detect Windows and add it to the GRUB loader
[08:36] !lilo:*! Repointed http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#spoofing and http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userexpirations and http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#usernames to the new information on NOIDPREFIX imported from the old devel wiki to http://freenode.net/NOIDPREFIX.shtml and especially http://freenode.net/Why_NOIDPREFIX.shtml
[08:37] <intelikey> hungry-hobo i've never owned a new hdd    hehhe   but no there should not be any special requirements.
[08:37] <melissa> :(
[08:37] <Alexi5> this is the mostlively linux channel i have ever been to
[08:37] <wastrel> mikebot:  i've played with them but i always have windows in front of the desktop so i could never see them :]
[08:37] <elkbuntu> :(
[08:37] !lilo:*! The material from the wiki is actually minimally modified; it's mostly the formatting that's new
[08:37] <wastrel> elkbuntu:  what video card do you have?
[08:37] <jetscreamer> Aine: apparently the --monitor portion of hwinfo is broken. it doesn't work here anymore.
[08:37] <hungry-hobo> yeah i know more than your average noob but i have a lot i want to learn..i wanna be able to maneuver like i could/can in a dos system..i wanna know how to look at all my hardware theu command line and set stuff up...i just a learn a little at a time every time i run into a snag heh
[08:37] <elkbuntu> integrated
[08:37] <Aine> Jetscreamer: Crap :(
[08:37] <mompirri> I'm having a really hard time getting apache to  load 2 virtual hosts. it's loading only one.  has anyone run into an issue like this?
[08:37] <jetscreamer> or it's an nvidia thing
[08:37] <daidungsi> sorry
[08:37] <hungry-hobo> using parted was a real fun adventure..my latest and greatest anyway lol
[08:38] <mikebot> wastrel, haha ah
[08:38] <daidungsi> how can i install hping app
[08:38] <mikebot> wastrel, i just grew so attached to my yahoo widget to-do list, that i need somehting like it
[08:38] <Aine> Jetscreamer: Using terminal, is there a way that I can send you my xorg.conf ? you mentioned pastebin but I have never heard of it.
[08:38] <jetscreamer> Aine: however, read-edid may help. and also hwinfo will tell you the busid for your card
[08:38] <elkbuntu> wastrel: it's just a crappy integrated one :(
[08:39] <elkbuntu> wastrel: if you said anything in the past minute i didnt see it since x kept trying to start the greeter thing and couldnt
[08:39] <intelikey> well hungry-hobo welcome to linux   and hopefully you will actually see the sun again..... unlike most of us.
[08:39] <jetscreamer> Aine: ftp? or you could just scp the file to your laptop and paste it in a pastebin
[08:39] <jetscreamer> !paste
[08:39] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[08:39] <otorinolaringolo> I heard that somebody here has new windows? any links?
[08:40] <wastrel> elkbuntu:  nope, didn't say anything...   yeah it looks like dapper doesn't like your video card or something...
[08:40] <Aine> Jetscreamer, how can I ftp it via console?
[08:40] <elkbuntu> wastrel: dapper was quite happy with my video card for over 2 weeks
[08:40] <Madpilot> otorinolaringolo, this isn't a Windows channel, or a chat channel - try #ubuntu-offtopic for chat. Thanks.
[08:40] <jetscreamer> Aine: you have to have somewhere to ftp it to
[08:40] <mazzen> hi! are any problems with gdm in dapper reported. or is this a selfmade problem? gdm wont start since the last update
[08:40] <intelikey> GET ALL THE WAREZ YOU WANT AT  <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:40] <otorinolaringolo> you're welcome. but, o I heard that somebody here has new windows? any links?
[08:40] <Aine> Jetscreamer: Yes, I do
[08:41] <jetscreamer> yes the new windows is available free at microsoft.com
[08:41] <wastrel> elkbuntu:  sry i though you'd said you just upgraded to dapper
[08:41] <jetscreamer> go forth
[08:41] <elkbuntu> yes, i have, but i had this problem for the past few days
[08:41] <otorinolaringolo> how big is it? is it really free?
[08:41] <jetscreamer> Aine: ok put it somewhere anywhere it can be viewed on the net
[08:41] <elkbuntu> on the old dapper install i had
[08:42] <fangorious> seems the 'default saved' and/or savedefault option for grub in dapper flight4 isn't working (at least not for me, on two computers)
[08:42] <Aine> Jetscreamer: 24: PCI 100.0: 0300 VGA compatible controller is in the log.txt we created. Is that the bus id?
[08:42] <jetscreamer> otorinolaringolo: yeah.. and it's only a 1gig d/l
[08:42] <elkbuntu> apols for the split line... hit enter too many times when x tried to start... it's damn annoying
[08:42] <Aine> Jetscreamer, I need to know how to initiate FTP via console.
[08:42] <mikebot> ugh, there's really no good looking to-do list for deb
[08:42] <otorinolaringolo> did you have a chance to try it out?
[08:42] <intelikey> well i'll be back when i think of something really cool to say......  errrr no.  i won't be gone that long.
[08:42] <Leotoothpic1> hey there whenever i start synaptic i get some errors like these W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:42] <jetscreamer> no that's not it, it's elsewhere and says pci bus id i think...
[08:42] <jetscreamer> Aine: type ftp
[08:42] <jetscreamer> or ftp ftp.somewhere.com
[08:43] <Leotoothpic1> any 1 has an idea why i'm getting these
[08:43] <hungry-hobo> intelikey, hey i went to that warez ftp u just gave out ..<IP_ADDRESS>...well it tells me to press the any key whenever i connect right..but ewhere the hell is the any key??!!!!!
[08:43] <Aine> Jetscreamer: I see SysFS Bus ID: 0000:01:00.0
[08:43] <wastrel> elkbuntu: need to find someone who's good at troubleshooting X problems... :]
[08:43] <hungry-hobo> :)
[08:44] <mazzen> astrel, do you have dapper and problem with gdm?
[08:44] <Aine> Jetscreamer: I see this...Driver status : nvidia is not active activation cmd "modprobe nvidia"
[08:44] <wastrel> mazzen:  it's elkbuntu
[08:44] <elkbuntu> wastrel: the prob is not necissarily with x... but something that's shutting x down cos it cant run or something
[08:44] <hungry-hobo> damn u guys are a tough crowd..i should got at least one 'lol' outta that one!!!!
[08:45] <Madpilot> Leotoothpic1, the US archives are probably acting up again - edit your sources to just use the main archives
[08:45] <Ch4s3r> Sorry to be a noob...anyone help me with the root password?  DL'd the ubuntu VMWare appliance and cant find docs on the root pass
[08:45] <elkbuntu> mazzen: i'm the one with the x problem
[08:45] <jetscreamer> Aine: if modprobe nvidia works, change nv to nvidia
[08:45] <mazzen> uh. sry wastrel
[08:45] <elkbuntu> mazzen: although i've done my best to make it his problem as well :P
[08:45] <jetscreamer> Aine: sudo lsmod | grep -i nvidia
[08:45] <jetscreamer> before you modprobe nvidia
[08:45] <Madpilot> Ch4s3r, use your own user pw & sudo - Ubuntu doesn't use a root pw by default
[08:46] <Leotoothpic1> thx madpilot so once they get back to normal i shudn't be getting these error right?
[08:46] <elkbuntu> mazzen: are you having the problem also?
[08:46] <mazzen> as my gdm wont start too, i thought maybee we have both dapper and this problem since ~8hours
[08:46] <AngryElf> what's a definitive way to find out what fs something is mounted as?
[08:46] <Madpilot> Leotoothpic1, probably
[08:46] <jetscreamer> use -t auto in the mount command
[08:46] <mazzen> and i dont know if its a "dapper" testing problem, or if i did something stupid this night
[08:46] <Aine> Jetscreamer: On sudo lsmod | grep -i nvidia  what would you like me to do?
[08:46] <jetscreamer> did it return anything?
[08:47] <elkbuntu> mazzen: yep sound <insert 30 secs of x trying to start> sounds like my prob
[08:47] <hungry-hobo> here's a wierd one i bet u guys have never seen..my original ubuntu 'user' i created at install time..well for some reason when i try to log that user in via the default 'gdm' it goes to start gnome (which im sill getting used to..kinda like it) i get instantly logged out!! i dont get to see anything man!! it says sometihng about 'my session being terminated cuz it was shorter than 10 seconds' !!! crazy huh!!
[08:47] <mikebot> does SuperKaramba work in gnome>?
[08:47] <elkbuntu> mazzen: nope, you did nothing wrong
[08:47] <Aine> Jetscreamer: Ues. mvodoa 3711364 0 and agpgart 32328 1 nvidia
[08:47] <elkbuntu> mazzen: other than try use dapper
[08:47] <hungry-hobo> it only does it with that user though i can log into gnome via gdm with ANY other user..(except root of course) :)
[08:47] <jetscreamer> Aine: was this before or after you did modprobe nvidia
[08:48] <mangelo> ok..so i <b>download</b> easy ubuntu..now how do i run it? lol
[08:48] <Aine> After, I read the message too late to do it before.
[08:48] <jetscreamer> ah. ok
[08:48] <hungry-hobo> i should stop typing so much lol..i think ppl see my big long paragraphs and just skip over em cuz it's too many big letter put together
[08:48] <mazzen> i wouldt say, i try ubuntu, i would prefer i test ubuntu and make its the best OS of the world
[08:48] <hungry-hobo> hahaha
[08:48] <wastrel> dapper channel is #ubuntu+1  fyi - they may have info about this prob?
[08:48] <mazzen> thats sounds better :)
[08:48] <mazzen> oh, i didnt noticed that.
[08:48] <jetscreamer> Aine: sudo rmmod nvidia && sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:48] <mazzen> thanks
[08:49] <h36sa> anyone know a somewhat up-to-date e17 repository for breezy?
[08:49] <mangelo> this easy ubuntu is a python script? i think? (im not sure how to use it :-/)
[08:49] <me2win> what does it end in?
[08:49] <mazzen> then i make a step forward and jump to +1. maybe we can fix that error. thanks!
[08:51] <Aine> jetscremer: done, but now I see multi colors in lines, and not just black and white blocks
[08:51] <jetscreamer> Aine: kill the xserver
[08:51] <AngryElf> hey all, i just compiled one of my first kernels.....i set Y to the ext2 and ext3 options in the config file, yet when I goto boot the kernel I get a kernel panic - it say something about being unable to mount the fs....../ is ext3 according to mount.......not sure what i'm doing wrong...???
[08:52] <Aine> jetscreamer: killed x
[08:52] <jetscreamer> AngryElf: did you add in your ide controller?
[08:52] <jetscreamer> Aine: less /etc/modules ... is the word nvidia in there?
[08:53] <Aine> Jetscreamer: No, lp, mousedev, psmouse, spb2, and sr_mod
[08:53] <Rob_Dude> Am I the only one that has a CRAPLOAD of problems trying to play back movies?
[08:53] <AngryElf> jetscreamer, do you know what option that might be?
[08:53] <jetscreamer> AngryElf: depends on what you have.
[08:54] <mustard5> Rob_Dude, I really dont' know...whats the answer?
[08:54] <mustard5> Rob_Dude, what have you done so far to configure your system for playing movies?
[08:54] <AngryElf> cd /dev
[08:54] <AngryElf> bah
[08:55] <Aine> Jetscreamer: What would be the command to put a file into an FTP
[08:55] <jetscreamer> Aine: when you did the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, was nvidia an option as well as nv?
[08:55] <Aine> Jetscreamer: No, I didn't see it.
[08:56] <Rob_Dude> I've downloaded VLC, the win32codecs a whole bunch of other codecs ;)  I've followed a few different websites instructions; but I always run into errors about missing packages or whatever they are called.
[08:56] <AngryElf> well, how do i find out what ide controller i have??
[08:56] <Angel_Dex> i just installed flux and its menu is like just 3 things why so?
[08:56] <jetscreamer> Aine: be in the directory the file is in when you start ftp. (i don't know how to change the local dir). then if it's ascii, type a is the command. type i for binary. then the command to put a file is put filename
[08:56] <mustard5> Rob_Dude, what would these packages be called in the error messages?
[08:57] <jetscreamer> not just a, type 'type a'
[08:57] <jetscreamer> no ' though
[08:57] <mustard5> Rob_Dude, what about if you start from scratch and follow a guide and tell me what each error message is at it occurs?
[08:58] <Rob_Dude> libdivx4linux, ffmpg
[08:58] <Rob_Dude> w32codecs
[08:58] <jetscreamer> i heard divx is broken or something, not sure
[08:58] <Rob_Dude> Although, I think I ended up getting the w32codecs - but not through apt-get
[08:58] <Aine> Ok, Jetscreamer: I have the file on my desktop of my laptop now.
[08:58] <timfrost> !w32codecs
[08:58] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[08:58] <jetscreamer> Aine: ok /msg ubotu paste
[08:58] <Rob_Dude> Yeah - that's how I got w32codecs
[08:58] <mustard5> Rob_Dude, k..did you download w32codecs from the link on the Restrited Formats wiki page?
[08:58] <Rob_Dude> Yup
[08:59] <mustard5> Rob_Dude, k...so you then installed them using the dpkg command?
[08:59] <Rob_Dude> Yup
[08:59] <mustard5> Rob_Dude, k
[08:59] <jetscreamer> Aine: break time, brb
[08:59] <mangelo> who talked bout easy ubuntu earlier?
[08:59] <Rob_Dude> I mean, a lot of my movies do play; but I'd say, roughly half don't
[08:59] <Aine> (02:59:12) ubotu: Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[08:59] <mustard5> Rob_Dude, what format are the movies that don't play?
[08:59] <Rob_Dude> I'm using VLC - I don't know if that's a 'good' player or not
[09:00] <dli> any idea about encore usb wireless support in linux?
[09:00] <jetscreamer> Aine: go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:00] <Rob_Dude> All the proprietary Microsoft ones :P
[09:00] <Rob_Dude> Er, wow I can't spell big words
[09:00] <Aine> Rob_Dude, did you try Mplayer
[09:00] <mustard5> dli, I would look over the wireless hardware page
[09:00] <mustard5> !wireless
[09:00] <ubotu> wireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[09:00] <dli> mustard5, thanks
[09:00] <jetscreamer> Aine: and paste it in, note the link, give link out to channel
[09:00] <Rob_Dude> Mplayer?  Nah, I'll give that a shot.  I've just got the VLC and whichever comes with
[09:00] <Rob_Dude> Thanks
[09:01] <mustard5> Rob_Dude, are they .wmv files?
[09:01] <jetscreamer> Aine: scp is easier than running an ftp server
[09:01] <Aine> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9618
[09:01] <timfrost> !tell mangelo -about easyubuntu
[09:02] <Rob_Dude> Yeah .wmv and also some .asf
[09:02] <Aine> Jetscreamer: I have many FTPs that I can use :), so I just picked one of them.
[09:02] <mazzen> i have installed mplaxer and xine as i notice that - for what ever - i can play some files with the one and some with the other
[09:02] <mustard5> Rob_Dude, are you on 64 bit kernel?
[09:02] <Rob_Dude> Nah
[09:02] <mazzen> mplaxer => mplayer
[09:02] <mustard5> Rob_Dude, k
[09:02] <mustard5> Rob_Dude, I have heard of problems with .wmv files...I don't know the details though
[09:02] <Rob_Dude> I mean, it's not a big deal I suppose; I'll just avoid .wmv movies in the future.  .mpg play fine
[09:03] <Rob_Dude> I know the 'DRM' protected stuff shouldn't play; but oh well
[09:03] <Rob_Dude> No biggy
[09:03] <mustard5> Rob_Dude, well thats probably a good way to go about it.
[09:03] <elkbuntu> ooooh, libgtk2.0 updates...
[09:04] <mustard5> mangelo, did you get the message on easyubuntu?
[09:04] <Aine> Rob_dude, sorry, I didn't know you were talking about wmv. Wmv there was a source code that was released that would let people play wma and wmv files...google it because I honestly can't rememebr where I found it.
[09:04] <Rob_Dude> Ahh, cool - ty
[09:04] <Rob_Dude> I'll give it a shot
[09:04] <mangelo> i got the one from ubotu
[09:04] <mustard5> mangelo, k..thats the one
[09:05] <mangelo> still doesnt really explain my question..unless im not loooking hard enough
[09:05] <mazzen> X/GDM works again :). if anyone reports a problem like me, he just should make a nother apt-get update/upgrade. thanks!
[09:08] <wastrel> hello
[09:09] <mustard5> mangelo, what was the question?
[09:09] <mustard5> hey wastrel
[09:10] <Spec> heya
[09:11] <mustard5> greetings Spec
[09:11] <elkbuntu> mazzen, IT'S BACK!
[09:11] <Spec> i'm having 'issues' with booting off my usb harddrive
[09:11] <jetscreamer> Aine: was nvidia also an option, as well as nv, when you did the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[09:11] <mustard5> Spec, thats a very specialised situation :)
[09:11] <Spec> hehe
[09:12] <Aine> Jetscreamer: Welcome back. No, it wasn't from what I remember. Would you like me to re run it to check?
[09:12] <mustard5> Spec, I don't imagine too many people boot ubuntu off USB :)
[09:12] <elkbuntu> mazzen, update! it was all gtk's fault!!!!!!!
[09:12] <jetscreamer> Aine: yet modprobe nvidia works ...
[09:12] <Spec> well, i have grub installed on the mba of 'sdc', but my bios says no operating system found...
[09:12] <mazzen> hehe, good that it works again!
[09:12] <elkbuntu> YESSS!
[09:12] <mazzen> hehe
[09:13] <Aine> Jetscreamer: nvidia isn't an option.
[09:13] <mustard5> Spec, I take it you followed the thread from the ubuntuforum in which someone else tried this?
[09:13] <Spec> and my grub on the mba of 'hda' boots fine, and if i tab on "root (hd", i see i can have hd0 and h1, and if i tab on root "(hd0,", i get a list of expected partitions, but if i tab on "root (hd1,", I get no partitions.
[09:13] <Aine> Jetscreamer: should I install the nvidia-glx ?
[09:13] <mazzen> text mode is cool and make you think you are a *real good* hacker, but X is nice also :)
[09:13] <Spec> Err, and trying to boot (hd1,0) results in error 25
[09:13] <Spec> mustard5: indeed
[09:14] <mustard5> Spec, I have enough trouble trying to use grub on my normal drives ;)
[09:14] <jetscreamer> Aine: that's what i was thinking, maybe the nvidia driver would function. i don't know why it's not working, it should be, with nv.
[09:14] <Spec> hmm, i usually don't have trouble with grub
[09:14] <Spec> but i've never tried to boot off a usb harddrive
[09:14] <elkbuntu> mazzen, there's nothing wrong with opening term and doing everything in there
[09:14] <jetscreamer> Aine: 'might' be the actual nv driver
[09:14] <Aine> Jetscreamer:I want both nvidia-settings and nvidia-glx ?
[09:15] <mustard5> Spec, you thought about using a different distro for doing it?
[09:15] <jetscreamer> !nvidia
[09:15] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[09:15] <Spec> I want to demo Ubuntu at a big convention starting next week, and i haven't the space on my internal drive
[09:15] <mustard5> Spec, ah ok
[09:15] <wastrel> livecd mebby
[09:15] <Spec> livecd is too slow
[09:15] <Spec> not good for demoing the 'speed' of linux, etc etc
[09:16] <mazzen> elkbuntu, wachting movies is better with X :)
[09:16] <elkbuntu> indeed
[09:16] <Spec> no...
[09:16] <Spec> svgalib baby
[09:16] <Spec> or aalib, if you wanna get kinky
[09:16] <elkbuntu> mazzen seveas is telling you to dist-upgrade now :P
[09:16] <elkbuntu> in +1
[09:16] <sinaduel> I have a small newbie question, but my friend told me you could be a server with linux, how do I go about doing this? And since I am worried about certain foreseeable problems, does linux alreay have a firewall?
[09:17] <Spec> sinaduel: yes
[09:17] <Spec> sinaduel: what type of server?
[09:17] <elkbuntu> !iptables
[09:17] <Spec> sinaduel: firewall = iptables
[09:17] <vladuz976> anybody here have experience with ubuntu on a thinkpad r41 ? does it work well?
[09:17] <Aine> Jetscreamer: Since Im in terminal, I will use apt-get ? Also, did you recieve the link with my xorg.conf ?
[09:17] <quitenormal> !iptables
[09:17] <jetscreamer> Aine: yes i got the link, the .conf seems fine
[09:17] <sinaduel> I wanted to have downloadable files on my site
[09:17] <jetscreamer> Aine: apt-get or aptitude
[09:17] <mustard5> sinaduel, the easiest way to set up ubuntu as a server is to choose the 'server' install on the install disk
[09:17] <jetscreamer> apt-get
[09:18] <sinaduel> allright, thankyou
[09:18] <mustard5> sinaduel, you would only have a command line interface though
[09:18] <sinaduel> okay
[09:18] <jetscreamer> !restricted
[09:18] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:18] <kuja> Pfft, who needs GUI... (coming from a guy running GNOME right now)
[09:18] <quitenormal> sinaduel just download and install apache using apt-get. Make sure you look through the conf files and use non standard ports.
[09:18] <mustard5> :)
[09:18] <wastrel> i'm on thinkpad t42 - it is very nice :]
[09:19] <Aine> Jetscreamer: Im getting invalid operation when I do sudo apt-get nvidia-settings
[09:19] <vladuz976> wastrel: is there a modified version of breezy for it like for the hp laptops?
[09:19] <kuja> Aine: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[09:19] <jetscreamer> Aine: apt-get install
[09:19] <jetscreamer> what he said
[09:19] <wastrel> vladuz976:  not that i know of.
[09:19] <jetscreamer> add the other
[09:20] <kuja> I like aptitude more, but it's harder to type :)
[09:20] <mustard5> Aine, you you forgot the 'install' part
[09:20] <vladuz976> wastrel: do you have wireless network working?
[09:20] <jetscreamer> alias it in .bashrc
[09:20] <wastrel> vladuz976:  yes, my 2200bg is supported & running... i'm using it now
[09:20] <Aine> Jetscreame Kuja and Mustard5: Thank you, I need coffee :D
[09:20] <Aine> Jetscremer: should I get linux-restricted-modules-386 too?
[09:21] <jetscreamer> Aine: i don't know. i use the nvidia-binary
[09:21] <mustard5> Aine, I would suspect it installed itself when you installed the drivers
[09:21] <vladuz976> wastrel: so did it work out of the box or did you have to do a lot of configurations?
[09:21] <mustard5> Aine, if it didnt, then you do need it
[09:22] <Aine> Jetscreamer: Ok, just did sudonvidia-glx-configenable
[09:22] <wastrel> vladuz976:  out of the box pretty much... i still know virtually nothing about wifi setup
[09:22] <mustard5> Aine, what kernel are you running atm?
[09:22] <vladuz976> wastrel: that sounds good
[09:22] <mustard5> Aine, what did the output say?
[09:22] <Aine> jetscreamer: should I try to start x?
[09:22] <Aine> Mustard: Said i have to restart x to take full advantage. Mustard, I'm not sure on the kernal, I'm running breezy if thats what you mean.
[09:23] <mustard5> Aine, k just checking if you have installed another kernel yourself
[09:23] <Aine> Mustard5: hehe, not that smart yet :D
[09:23] <mustard5> Aine, you can find your current kernel with the uname -r  command
[09:24] <mustard5> Aine, I would think it is 386 though from the sounds of it
[09:24] <Aine> 2.6.12-9-386
[09:24] <mustard5> Aine, yeah thats good
[09:24] <Aine> w00t w00t
[09:24] <Wammy|> heh, i installed a new kernel only cuz .15 was the only release that had support for a raid card
[09:24] <Aine> Nvidia drivers did it!!
[09:24] <Wammy|> and the card was bad :/
[09:24] <Aine> <3333
[09:24] <Aine> Jetscreamer and Mustard, where can I travel to send you all my love?! :D
[09:24] <Wammy|> been running 2.6.15-wammy for a mont or so, works fine :P
[09:25] <mustard5> Aine, you should help all others install nvidia drivers now ;)
[09:25] <mustard5> :D
[09:25] <Spec> nvidia drivers rock
[09:25] <Spec> err, more so than ati drivers, that is
[09:25] <Wammy|> mustard5, do you have a while to help me mess with the soundcard on my laptop? :P
[09:26] <mustard5> Wammy|, eeeewwww...sound card troubleshooting...heheheh...my pet hate :)
[09:26] <Wammy|> :/
[09:26] <mustard5> Wammy|, its so hard to find the answers sometimes :)
[09:26] <Wammy|> its really the single most important thing i need
[09:26] <Spec> Wammy|: i do
[09:26] <Spec> Wammy|: i just got mine all working, i have an external and an internal card
[09:26] <Wammy|> the laptop will be installed in my car as a mp3 jukebox
[09:26] <Wammy|> so no sound = no point :/
[09:26] <quitenormal> ouch.
[09:27] <Spec> Wammy|: did you follow the excellent alsa guides?
[09:27] <Wammy|> Spec: its a NeoMagic NM 2200
[09:27] <quitenormal> Wammy| is that safe?
[09:27] <Wammy|> i googled
[09:27] <mustard5> Wammy|, Spec , I would start by looking for modules loading up with lsmod :)
[09:27] <Wammy|> quitenormal, yeah, just gotto do it right.
[09:27] <Spec> lspci -v|grep -i audio will help determine chipset
[09:27] <Wammy|> Spec, thing seems to load fine, alsa says no soundcards found tho.
[09:27] <Aine> Mustard5: Is it recommended that I try to update my Audigy 2ZS cards drivers?
[09:27] <Wammy|> lspci tells me that..
[09:28] <mustard5> Aine, do the ones you have work now?
[09:28] <mustard5> Aine, if it makes noises I wouldnt play with it, but thats just me :)
[09:28] <Wammy|> Spec, google came up with some people that had gotten it working, however alot of the stuff they say to do i donot get :/
[09:28] <Wammy|> mustard5, if it aint broken dont fix it? :P
[09:28] <mustard5> Wammy|, thats my motto ...yep :D
[09:28] <Spec> Wammy|: gentoo has good alsa documentation
[09:28] <Wammy|> yeah i agree
[09:29] <Spec> that even Ubuntu points to, for alsa advice... :p
[09:29] <Aine> Mustard5: No idea, Gotta get the restricted formats then get my music off my NTFS partition :D
[09:29] <Spec> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml
[09:29] <Spec> start there, Wammy|
[09:29] <Spec> just to double check things
[09:29] <mustard5> Aine, do you here little drum noises all the time though?
[09:30] <Aine> Mustard5: Speakers are off, let me turn them off..might help me hahah
[09:31] <mustard5> Aine,  :)
[09:32] <Wammy|> heh, where is alsaconf ?
[09:32] <Aine> Mustard5: sorry for the delay, running software updates. Is firestarter still a good firewall?
[09:33] <mustard5> Aine, yeah...its not really the firewall though..firestarter is the gui frontend to iptables
[09:33] <mustard5> Aine, iptables is the firewall
[09:33] <Aine> mustard5: Well, I'm looking for a good place to start. I had it on my laptop, so was wondering if I should use it again.
[09:34] <Aine> mustard, yes, I hear the drum.
[09:34] <mustard5> Wammy|, I think ubuntu uses alsamixer or some other name?
[09:34] <Wammy|> hmm
[09:34] <mustard5> Wammy|, gnome-alsamixer  or alsamixergui ?
[09:34] <mustard5> Wammy|, I use the apt-cache search <keyword> to find stuff anyway
[09:35] <VoX> why not use synaptic?
[09:35] <mustard5> Aine, hearing the drum is good :)
[09:35] <mustard5> VoX, I would have to lean forward to my mouse then :D
[09:35] <VoX> heh
[09:35] <VoX> amen
[09:36] <Aine> Mustard: Now only if Maxthon was on Linux, I would be in heaven :D
[09:36] <mustard5> Aine, whats Maxthon?
[09:36] <Aine> Mustard, Maxthon was the browser I used on windows...based of IE but x100 better.
[09:36] <mustard5> Aine, well it doubt it will run on linux then :)
[09:37] <Jdralphs> weird question:  (hello by the way) my pc speaker stopped working in X but the sound mixer seems to think there should be volume to it -- any ideas whats up?
[09:37] <mustard5> Aine, not if its IE based
[09:37] <Jdralphs> maybe under wine....
[09:38] <mustard5> Jdralphs, were up playing a DVD recently (just curious about something I read today)
[09:38] <VoX> Jdralphs: i think the speaker is disabled by default, unless a program specifically calls it
[09:38] <VoX> skype, for instance, will use the pc speaker as the ringer
[09:38] <Jdralphs> musterd5: nope not today anyway
[09:38] <purplefeltangel> can someone help me with XMMS?
[09:39] <mustard5> ah I see I misread your question Jdralphs
[09:39] <VoX> purplefeltangel: whats the problem with it
[09:39] <mustard5> purplefeltangel, what about xmms?
[09:39] <purplefeltangel> vox & mustard5: i installed the status docklet plugin but there's still the xmms thing on my bottom panel
[09:39] <Jdralphs> VoX:  yeah, I wanted to use the mail-notification plugin for evolution using pc speaker beeps -- but alas, I have no sound if Xorg is running
[09:40] <VoX> Jdralphs: it should still work
[09:40] <mustard5> Wammy|, is alsa-base package installed?
[09:40] <VoX> mine does
[09:41] <Jdralphs> Vox:  Mine used to -- I'm thinknig I must've broke something somehow -- I'm just not sure what to look at
[09:41] <VoX> purplefeltangel: so close xmms, and it'll still play through the dock
[09:41] <VoX> Jdralphs: ah.. that im not sure of
[09:41] <purplefeltangel> vox: but i like it open. :/
[09:41] <Jdralphs> VoX:  Fair enough -- thanks!
[09:41] <VoX> purplefeltangel: then what are you complaining about?
[09:42] <purplefeltangel> vox: i want it open but without the taskbar button thing.
[09:42] <mustard5> purplefeltangel, move to a new virtual desktop :)
[09:42] <Jdralphs> ha
[09:42] <purplefeltangel> mustard5: your joke is lost on me.
[09:42] <Aine> purple: at the bottom right are the four blocks..click one that isnt active and then open xmms
[09:43] <Aine> and then go back to your other desktop
[09:43] <Hackaveli> i have a problem  guys i need some help
[09:43] <Hackaveli> i dont wanna reformat my hd
[09:43] <mustard5> purplefeltangel, well if xmms is open on workspace one..then move to workspace 2 and you won't see it in the taskbar
[09:43] <Hackaveli> n i cant get grub to load the hd i have erurything on
[09:43] <purplefeltangel> mustard5: but then i won't see it at all. :/
[09:43] <VoX> o_O
[09:44] <purplefeltangel> aine: i took off the workspace switchything
[09:44] <Aine> purple: ouch :(
[09:44] <Hackaveli> is there anyway i can point m y bootloader
[09:44] <firepol> hi there i've just installed kubuntu-desktop (breezy). Where has the "show desktop" icon disappeared? Can you please help me to re-activate it?
[09:44] <mustard5> purplefeltangel, you can put it back on
[09:44] <wastrel> there should be a way to tell the window list applet to ignore certain programs
[09:44] <Hackaveli> to booth the orignal hd partition
[09:44] <hondadarrell> hello everyone! <@:)
[09:44] <hondadarrell> anyone know how to add win32 codecs to Mplayer?
[09:45] <Hackaveli> w/out havin to reinstall ubuntu?
[09:45] <wastrel> i smell a feature request
[09:45] <purplefeltangel> mustard5: but id ont want to just move XMMS to another workspace. i want to see it, but not have the button on my taskbar. you know. . . like winamp? like the program of which xmms is upposed to be a clone?
[09:45] <mustard5> wastrel, :)
[09:45] <Hackaveli> bot*
[09:45] <Hackaveli> boot*
[09:45] <mustard5> purplefeltangel, I think wastrel has the anwer..put a feature request into the developers
[09:45] <purplefeltangel> mustard5: of the plugin or XMMS? o_o
[09:45] <mustard5> purplefeltangel, of the windows list thingy that is
[09:46] <mustard5> purplefeltangel, the thing that lists the windows in taskbar
[09:46] <purplefeltangel> where do i find *that*?
[09:46] <Jambon> is there such a thing, or will there be an non-free update wizard for installing some basic software needed (like say, mplayer, w32codecs, k3b, java, flash, mp3 codecs etc) for basic deskop usage?
[09:46] <mustard5> purplefeltangel, as if you can ignore certain apps
[09:46] <mustard5> *ask ..I meant to say
[09:46] <purplefeltangel> mustard5: where do i need to go? who to contact?
[09:47] <mustard5> purplefeltangel, you find what package it is ..then find the website that handles it
[09:47] <wastrel> ubotu tell jambon about easyubuntu
[09:47] <mustard5> purplefeltangel, or you can go to launchpad?
[09:47] <mustard5> !launchpad
[09:47] <ubotu> launchpad is, like, totally, a collection of services for projects in the open source universe - https://launchpad.net/
[09:47] <purplefeltangel> mustard5 how do i find what package it is . . . ?
[09:48] <Madpilot> !tell hondadarrell about restricted
[09:48] <Hackaveli> so basically i need to know how can i edit grub to tell it wut partition to load from
[09:49] <Wammy|> /etc/grub
[09:49] <Wammy|> or
[09:49] <Wammy|> /boot/grub
[09:49] <wastrel> Hackaveli:  /boot/grub/menu.lst  is the file
[09:49] <mustard5> purplefeltangel, search for the window list applet in synaptic?
[09:49] <mustard5> purplefeltangel, check packages.ubuntu.com
[09:50] <Hackaveli> okay, i cant get to my linux so i can used systemdisk recovery
[09:50] <Hackaveli> to get to it?
[09:50] <mustard5> Hackaveli, you got a live CD of ubuntu?
[09:50] <Hackaveli> naw
[09:50] <Hackaveli> i dont
[09:50] <Aine> mustard5: I have a Logitech G7 mouse with a tilt wheel..any idea how to incorporate it?
[09:50] <Hackaveli> actualy
[09:50] <Hackaveli> should i get it
[09:51] <pki> Hello
[09:51] <mustard5> Aine, not really...it would configured through xorg.conf..but how is the question I don't know
[09:51] <pki> Is there anyone from US with a cellphone?
[09:51] <Wammy|> ...
[09:51] <Wammy|> why do you need it.
[09:51] <mustard5> Hackaveli, you could get that or you could try another live CD....what in particular are you doing?
[09:51] <purplefeltangel> mustard5: ctrl+f window list in breezy> base selection finds nothing
[09:52] <mustard5> Wammy|, I've probably butted in half way without knowing whats going on :)
[09:52] <InnerF|RE> how can i convert an wma file to mp3? or wav?
[09:52] <Wammy|> itunes does it :P
[09:52] <Hackaveli> okay, i messed up n gnome-terminal got delted i reinstalled gnome term (so i thought buy reinstalling ubutnu would fix problem)
[09:52] <pki> Is there anyone from US with a cellphone?
[09:52] <purplefeltangel> mustard5: if i put in a feature request and they decide to implement it, when will i see it implemented?
[09:52] <Wammy|> pki, why do you need it.
[09:53] <purplefeltangel> innerf|re: audacity
[09:53] <Hackaveli> but problem is...i delted teh reinstall cuz i thought itw as bootin from orginal
[09:53] <Hackaveli> so now i cant boot
[09:53] <Hackaveli> nothin
[09:53] <wastrel> i am in the us and i have a cell phone
[09:53] <InnerF|RE> get it from synaptic?
[09:53] <pki> Wammy i want to subscribe to gmail
[09:53] <InnerF|RE> its not text based is it?
[09:53] <Wammy|> rofl.
[09:53] <Hackaveli> so i need to point grub to the orginal partition
[09:53] <purplefeltangel> innerf|re yes, and no. but bear in mind that im not sure if it does proprietary formats.
[09:54] <hesse> ahoi
[09:54] <kairu0> hey
[09:54] <mustard5> Hackaveli, ok...so you need an operating system of some kind to view the files?
[09:54] <wastrel> purplefeltangel:  not for a long time :]   but you're doing a public service
[09:54] <Hackaveli> yeah
[09:54] <Hackaveli> basically
[09:55] <DomCatZ> was just checking the room before going ni ni...dont have the time to deal with the problem right now, but will be back to (hopefully) get it solved before sunday...enjoy your evening
[09:55] <purplefeltangel> wastrel: how long is a long time? D:
[09:55] <mustard5> Hackaveli, and you have no functional operating system now?
[09:55] <wastrel> purplefeltangel:  well at least 6 months
[09:55] <purplefeltangel> wastrel: iirc theres already something like this in KDE . . . -_-
[09:55] <mustard5> Hackaveli, your on a seperate computer now i take it
[09:55] <Hackaveli> not on the compute rim wokrin on
[09:55] <wastrel> purplefeltangel:  when the next ubuntu is released
[09:55] <hondadarrell> Madpilot, Thanks man!
[09:55] <purplefeltangel> wastrel: 6 months for . . . the next release after dapper? :/
[09:55] <allanh128> hello
[09:55] <Madpilot> hondadarrell, np
[09:55] <purplefeltangel> wastrel: pardon my ignorance but why couldnt it be implemented in dapper?
[09:55] <Hackaveli> im re-installing ubuntu
[09:55] <Hackaveli> as we speak
[09:55] <wastrel> purplefeltangel:  but probably longer than that for the feature to get into gnome.. i'd guess a year minimum
[09:55] <purplefeltangel> wastrel: eek. D:
[09:55] <Wammy|> apt-get dist-upgrade takes forever....
[09:55] <Hackaveli> but i wanan be able to use the ORINGAL partition to boot to
[09:55] <Hackaveli> not this new one
[09:56] <wastrel> purplefeltangel:  that's if the gnome team decides to do it ;]
[09:56] <Ashly> How does on get the latest Wine in Ubuntu (not via CVS)
[09:56] <Madpilot> purplefeltangel, feature freeze has already passed for Dapper - full release is only about six weeks away now
[09:56] <purplefeltangel> wastrel: i can't believe i'm saying this. but i'm considering switching to KDE. -_-;
[09:56] <pki> Is there anyone from US with a cellphone?
[09:56] <purplefeltangel> madpilot: OIC
[09:56] <purplefeltangel> pki: i'm from canada with a cellphone. whats the prob?
[09:56] <Hackaveli> if i got to shell onubuntu disc can i do it
[09:56] <mustard5> Hackaveli, I'm still not completely understanding what you have done that is a problem yet
[09:57] <Hackaveli> ok,
[09:57] <wastrel> purplefeltangel:  whatever works for you :]
[09:57] <Hackaveli> reinstalled ubuntu
[09:57] <Hackaveli> i deleted wut i reinstalled
[09:57] <Madpilot> purplefeltangel, just for info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule
[09:57] <Hackaveli> but i didnt
[09:57] <cello_rasp> are ther any applications that can read bin/cue files as if they were cd's?
[09:57] <Hackaveli> deled my orginal partition that i had messed up with ubuntu in the beging with
[09:57] <Hackaveli> so i wanna point grub
[09:57] <Hackaveli> to load that partition
[09:57] <purplefeltangel> madpilot: thx
[09:58] <wastrel> yeah dapper is basically frozen, only bugfixes for most stuff
[09:58] <cello_rasp> i ask this because libcdio provides this but i can't find any music software that uses this
[09:58] <mustard5> Hackaveli, why?  its deleted isnt it?
[09:58] <Hackaveli> no