[05:53] <aruntomar> enli: ok, so redirection should work for u
[05:53] <aruntomar> axisys: open the doc file with openoffice, copy the content and save them to a text file
[05:54] <axisys> aruntomar: found antiword does it reallly fast
[05:54] <makdotgnu> tws7: hey I tried again  but it is installed 1.8
[05:54] <makdotgnu> and I need ruby 1.9
[05:54] <Lostinspace_46> aruntomar, From the tut   "svn co https://cmusphinx.svn.sourceforge.net:/svnroot/cmusphinx/trunk/SphinxTrain"
[05:54] <axisys> aruntomar: it was about 2000 lines .. so copy would took me a while.. but thanks for the hint
[05:55] <hihowareyou> how do I enable wireless from desktop? it doesnt appear on my HD for some reason "my network connections"
[05:58] <pepper_haze> whats the channel for off topic unbuntu chat?
[06:00] <shift_wreck> anyone familiar with xkeycaps?
[06:00] <Lostinspace_46> pepper_haze ubuntu-offtopic
[06:01] <Lostinspace_46> shift_wreck, Marginally
[06:02] <shift_wreck> Lostinspace_46, trying to swap some keys with xkeycaps and it doesnt have a keyboard layout that matches my kb
[06:02] <aruntomar> Lostinspace_46: where ever u ran the svn command a folder by the name of SphinxTrain would have created, and all the files should be there
[06:02] <shift_wreck> any ideas where i might find one or how to creat one?
[06:03] <SandGorgon> anybody know of any decent epub reader for Ubuntu (not calibre which needs QT)
[06:03] <Lostinspace_46> aruntomar, Thanks, I'll check that out
[06:03] <obadiah> My harddrive has a
[06:03] <katesmith> i have installed wubi ubutuntu on my computer and dont know how to access the files that i have on windows vista from wubi ubuntu?  is there a way to access the files and programs of mine?  i need help with this, i dont have any knowledge about this at all, please help me with this?
[06:04] <Out_Cold_> if i wanted to run a script on several remote scripts, I'm wondering if I can use the script to log in via ssh, run the commands, then log out while still doing the scripts. how do i close out without losing the rest of the script?
[06:04] <Lostinspace_46> shift_wreck, I did all that with xbindkeys-config
[06:04] <Out_Cold_> ** remote machines
[06:04] <shift_wreck> Lostinspace_46, ok thanks
[06:05] <Lostinspace_46> shift_wreck, It doesnt matter the layout
[06:05] <Out_Cold_> katesmith, wubi is kind of a mess for installs. is there an otion to mount your windows drive in the places menu?
[06:05] <Out_Cold_> *option
[06:05] <katesmith> no
[06:06] <aruntomar> Out_Cold_: either copy the script on the remote machines and run them via ssh
[06:06] <Lostinspace_46> shift_wreck, You set each key to what you want
[06:06] <Out_Cold_> aruntomar, but if i run them from a remote shell and log out, does it not kill the processes that i started?
[06:06] <katesmith> Out_Cold_ i cant even find the files at all when i do boot on wubi ubuntu
[06:06] <katesmith> i cant find the files to windows vista
[06:07] <shift_wreck> Lostinspace_46, im familiar with xbindkeys. i just would like to do it with xmodmap
[06:07] <jonrafkind> with the netbook remix, how do I get rid of the main menu thing
[06:07] <katesmith> i am really dissappointed about this whole thing
[06:07] <Out_Cold_> katesmith, possibly because the drive is not mounted. can you open a terminal and run the command:  mount
[06:07] <obadiah> My harddrive has a sda1 as boot partition, sda2 as swap partition, and sda3 for data. Which partition contains the root file system?
[06:08] <Out_Cold_> katesmith, don't let that discourage you. when people try for the first time there are always things that are not expected
[06:08] <rifter> obadiah, df -h will tellyou
[06:08] <ZykoticK9> Out_Cold_, i could be wrong, but i don't think you can access the windows side of things from inside of WUBI - it isn't like a regular install
[06:08] <Out_Cold_> ZykoticK9, could be right..
[06:08] <Lostinspace_46> shift_wreck, xmodemap is fine if you dont want to set a key to launch a prog
[06:08] <Out_Cold_> never tried wubi
[06:08] <indus> obadiah, yeah df -h in a terminal
[06:08] <Out_Cold_> katesmith, wubi is not a real install
[06:09] <Out_Cold_> wubi is like a try before you 'buy' demo
[06:09] <obadiah> rifter and indus, thanks!
[06:09] <Flannel> Out_Cold_: Wubi is a real install.
[06:10] <abhi_nav> Flanne: hibernation is not possible inside wubi installation
[06:10] <katesmith> how would i be able to get a real install?
[06:10] <abhi_nav> Flanne: (I think)  :-)
[06:10] <shift_wreck> Lostinspace_46, i have an existing xmodmaprc that is fairly complex. i just wanted to tweek it more.
[06:10] <abhi_nav> Flannel: hibernation is not possible inside wubi installation
[06:10] <abhi_nav> Flannel: (I think)  :-)
[06:10] <Flannel> katesmith: Is the wubi install relatively new?
[06:10] <lokpest> I have both flash 9 and 10 installed, konqueror uses 9, how do I link so that it uses 10?
[06:11] <Out_Cold_> katesmith, the best way in my opinion is a persistent usb or a live cd.. and with a few commands all your files are accessible
[06:11] <Flannel> katesmith: (there's a way to do it either way, but if its new, you're better of just installing fresh, if it's not, you can migrate the wubi install)
[06:11] <katesmith> Out_Cold_ do you know of where i can go to get the real install of it ?
[06:11] <Lostinspace_46> shift_wreck, I believe that as well as command line, you can edit the xmodmaprc file
[06:13] <Out_Cold_> katesmith, how did you install the wubi? with cd?
[06:13] <katesmith> okay how do i get a live cd to do a full install of it ?
[06:13] <katesmith> yes with cd
[06:13] <katesmith> i downloaded and made a cd
[06:13] <shift_wreck> Lostinspace_46, yep
[06:13] <Out_Cold_> Flannel, can you mount drives from inside wubi? like her windows parts?
[06:14] <Out_Cold_> katesmith, quite possibly the same cd does a full install...
[06:15] <lokpest> noone that can answer my question above?
[06:15] <ZykoticK9> katesmith, Out_Cold_ it is possible "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How do I access the Windows drives?" < don't thing the link will work with the spaces
[06:16] <Lostinspace_46> aruntomar, Did you mean the folder will be in whatever directory I am in, in the terminal?
[06:16] <aruntomar> Lostinspace_46: yes
[06:16] <aruntomar> Lostinspace_46: the list that u see is the list of files that were downloaded to that folder
[06:17] <Out_Cold_> there katesmith, read ZykoticK9's link..
[06:17] <Out_Cold_> and no white space ruins the hypertext
[06:17] <aruntomar> lokpest: konqueror might have the flash installed in it's on directory, most possibly ~/.konqueror/
[06:17] <Lostinspace_46> aruntomar, Well...DUH!  I was in the sphinxtrain dir.  Kinda explains things.  Thanks again
[06:18] <aruntomar> lokpest: how did u install both the flash player versions
[06:19] <Out_Cold_> so if i run a process in bg does it stop when i terminate the remote shell?
[06:19] <pinkpanther> does anyone use gnome do?
[06:19] <lokpest> aruntomar: dont really know since it was ages ago, but I think 9 was from the repostories and 10 from adobes web
[06:20] <pinkpanther> i need help with gnomedo
[06:23] <pinkpanther> can someone help me?
[06:23] <aruntomar> lokpest: flash player is basically a .so file, remove it from the konqeror folder
[06:23] <ZykoticK9> pinkpanther, could you state for the channel what you are having difficulty with?
[06:23] <pinkpanther> gnomedo
[06:24] <pinkpanther> I dont want it to show open windows
[06:24] <pinkpanther> I just want it to display shortcuts
[06:26] <BryanWB> what file(s) in /etc configure upstart?
[06:26] <Thundarr> man, konversation really goes nuts with the default color scheme. heh
[06:26] <pinkpanther> what can i do
[06:27] <Tully> http://buffer0verflow.com/?p=71
[06:27] <pinkpanther> i hate all the docks for ubuntu
[06:27] <lokpest> aruntomar: right, but I dont find any ~/.konqueror/ so I guessed it be somewhere in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/ but no .so file there
[06:28] <pinkpanther> why wont they do what i want
[06:28] <pinkpanther> if i have a windows open it displays on the task bar naturay so why the hell would I want it on the dock too?
[06:28] <pinkpanther> GRRRRRRRRR
[06:29] <pinkpanther> they need to make rocketdock for ubuntu
[06:30] <kukoc> kukoc
[06:31] <aruntomar> lokpest: use the find or locate command to the find the libflashplayer.so file
[06:33] <lokpest> aruntomar: k, one hit in /usr/lib/ and one in ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[06:34] <Gnea> pinkpanther: there's already one for E17
[06:34] <thenetduck> hey when is the next version of ubuntu coming out?
[06:34] <ZykoticK9> thenetduck, 49 days from today
[06:35] <thenetduck> woot
[06:35] <Gnea> thenetduck: always on the 4th and 10th month of every year
[06:35] <aruntomar> lokpest: remove whatever flash plugins u find, install the new version
[06:35] <pinkpanther> :(
[06:35] <thenetduck> next one is LTS right?
[06:35] <rsk> !lts
[06:35] <indus> just 49 days hmm when is beta 1
[06:35] <aruntomar> thenetduck: yes
[06:36] <thenetduck> that's exciting.
[06:36] <Gnea> indus: when it's released.
[06:36] <ZykoticK9> indus, 7 days from today
[06:36] <rsk> indus 03-18
[06:36] <alazyworkaholic> Hi, I'd really appreciate any help to avoid having to reinstall ubuntu. I tried to get a laptop modem to work (conexant) & it was okay for a while but then the sound died. The audio management applet says that there's only a dummy audio device now. I removed the linixant audio driver & I think I put back what used to be there, but it doesn't work. I want to reinstall anything related to audio & related config files. Is t
[06:36] <indus> rsk, wohoo
[06:36] <rsk> is the date for beta 1
[06:36] <indus> who cares, i already have alpha 3 :P
[06:37] <lokpest> I found it funny that Kubuntu Hardy wasnt supposed to be LTS but its still supported because Canonical didnt think they could remove all kde apps from the repositories and kubuntu and ubuntu share the same repositories
[06:37] <Zenker> hello everyone, i am ready to install ubuntu on its own partition, but vista's disk manager is only offering 72 mb when i attempt to shirnk its allocated space, i have a 100gb hd (WDC WD 1200EVT-75CT20ATA Device) actually, it reports its a 111.79 gb hd but whatever--anyhow what do i need to do? oh, it has 59.3gb of data on it
[06:38] <lokpest> so i practise kubuntu hardy is still active and therefore an LTS in practise
[06:38] <lokpest> lol
[06:38] <Gnea> lokpest: any official ubuntu distribution shares the same repository
[06:38] <lokpest> Gnea: know. but Canonical said kubuntu hardy was only going to have normal lifetime and not be LTS
[06:39] <lokpest> but... the made asses of themself :D
[06:40] <indus> yeah so which one was kubuntu LTS?
[06:42] <chetnick> is it just me or evince work way better than adobe reader? It's light/fast and way better on resource consumption.
[06:42] <lokpest> lol
[06:42] <jenia> hello everyone
[06:43] <ralph> hi
[06:43] <CactusWiZaRd> hello
[06:43] <lokpest> of cource it works better, its free software
[06:43] <jenia> i would like to start a process from the shell, but would like to close the shell after
[06:43] <chetnick> lokpest: what do you mean by free?
[06:43] <lokpest> chetnick: free as in freedom
[06:43] <jenia> is there a way to do it? For example, bash process
[06:43] <chetnick> lokpest: free software can mean different things.
[06:43] <preposteruss> anyone mind aiding in getting my wireless to work, the card is showing up in ifconfig, it's an unsecured network and i can't get on, it works on my other machine
[06:43] <spartan07> Zenker: are you doing the re partitioning from the install process of ubuntu or in Vista?
[06:44] <sebsebseb> !freedom |  chetnick
[06:44] <Zenker> spartan07: vista's disk manager
[06:44] <lokpest> chetnick: not really in this comunity, here its referded to freedom, no price
[06:44] <lokpest> not*
[06:45] <awan> awan
[06:45] <ralph> query:  i'm partitioning my hard-drive, do i really need to have a swap-file? i have 4gigs ram, seems redundant
[06:46] <spartan07> best thing to do is run defrag to lump together your windows data towards the beginning of the drive and then do the partition of linux during the install when you run the installer
[06:47] <chetnick> lokpest:  I know what does it mean, i just didn't know we were on the same page, because i had experience in the past where people are referring to "free" as "free of charge".
[06:47] <spartan07> Zenker: after you run the installer and fire up vista it will go through a check because the drive size was changed no big deal let it do it and your good
[06:47] <lokpest> chetnick: in here? depressing
[06:48] <awan> i have trouble to install wifi on dell inspiron 1410, there any one can help me?
[06:48] <Zenker> oh yeah, i should have done a defrag *smacking my forehead*, btw do you play combat arms?
[06:48] <spartan07> Zenker: When you install Ubuntu, the installer will default to sharing your drive with vista and add M$ to your grub menu
[06:48] <sprockets4> Geez, why google why, anyone happen to have a google voice invite, I dont know why they have to do this invite system again like when google first came out
[06:49] <MrSiebel1> My ubuntu bind9 package is broken anyone give me some ideas on fixing it?
[06:49] <ralph> query:  i'm partitioning my hard-drive, do i really need to have a swap-file? i have 4gigs ram, seems redundant
[06:49] <Zenker> where can i read up on that?
[06:49] <chetnick> ralph: you mean swap partition?
[06:50] <ralph> yes :P
[06:50] <MrSiebel1> bind9 anyone?
[06:50] <SolarisBoy> tinydns ;>
[06:50]  * lokpest binds MrSiebel1
[06:50] <lokpest> :P
[06:50] <Zenker> nvm i can find it, i should have read up on it in the 1st place :0!
[06:50] <spartan07> try ubuntu forums
[06:50] <chetnick> ralph: you must have swap, but in your case you dont have to make it 4x2, 4GB would be sufficient.
[06:50] <ralph> when i did a simple install of ubuntu it set my swap partition at 12gigs, seemed like a huge waste
[06:50] <preposteruss> i can see the ssid on my machine, it tries to connect but will not, i have 2 other devices that can connect fine to my network
[06:50] <MrSiebel1> My bind9 package is broken any ideas?
[06:50] <Gnea> MrSiebel1: are you sure it's broken?
[06:51] <Zenker> but 4 real, do you play combat arms? sparton07?
[06:51] <MrSiebel1> Every time I load synaptic or do apt-get update it says bind9 package broken
[06:51] <ralph> thanks Chetnick!
[06:51] <spartan07> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[06:51] <MrSiebel1> Yup its broken
[06:51] <chetnick> ralph: you dont need 12GB.... 4GB is enough.
[06:51] <crazy2k_> Hello. Just a quick question. If I have a CD with xubuntu, and try to install using Wubi from Windows, will Wubi use the data in the CD for the installation, or it needs to get something from the Internet?
[06:51] <ralph> thanks :)
[06:52] <spartan07> Zenker: no heard things about it though
[06:52] <ralph> oh another question if you don't mind.  swap partition needs to be placed at the end of the drive correct?
[06:52] <ralph> and OS at the front?
[06:52] <Zenker> i was askin because there a player wit the same name, guess its just a coinsidance
[06:52] <Zenker> anyhow thatnk you
[06:53] <spartan07> Zenker: CD4, HALO3, Fallout3,
[06:53] <spartan07> Zenker: NP
[06:54] <MrSiebel1> I updated my system via dist-upgrade... stoopid me it broke my bind9 package
[06:54] <chetnick> ralph: you can put it on the beginning or at the end.
[06:54] <Losha> MrSiebel1: you won't get much help till you explain what you mean by "broken"....
[06:55] <Losha> ralph: or in the middle, really doesn't matter with modern distros...
[06:55] <chetnick> ralph: there might be some performance difference.
[06:55] <pshr_> how to know the event ID
[06:55] <ralph> hmm, ok
[06:55] <pshr_> say for mouse
[06:55] <pshr_> what is the event id
[06:55] <pshr_> I need to set this
[06:55] <pshr_> Option         "Device" "/dev/input/event10"
[06:56] <preposteruss> anyone mind helping with my wireless issue? I can see the SSID and try to connect but it wont
[06:57] <e04mk> does tail -f /var/log/syslog say anything about any problems while connecting to your network?
[06:57] <bleck> anyone here from australia that could run a test for me?
[06:58] <spartan07> preposteruss: Desktop or laptop?
[06:59] <preposteruss> laptop
[06:59] <preposteruss> old 2wire card in it
[07:00] <preposteruss> i see association request to the driver failed
[07:00] <SpringHerself> I have a terribly newbish, stupid question: Does Ubuntu have anything like a force-quit keyboard command, like control-alt-delete in Windows?
[07:00] <preposteruss> it worked out of the box on previous ubuntu versions though
[07:01] <ZykoticK9> SpringHerself, alt+sysrq+k will restart Xorg
[07:01] <spartan07> SpringHerself: for an app or X?
[07:01] <Losha> SpringHerself: not stupid at all, http://tazbuntu.blogspot.com/2008/05/magic-sysrq-key.html
[07:01] <ZykoticK9> SpringHerself, sorry disregard my message (don't try it!)
[07:01] <preposteruss> spartan07: so i need to load the modules for my card right?
[07:02] <SpringHerself> I'm not sure, but websites sometimes cause my computer to freeze up, trying to see if there's something I can do to so I don't have to reboot.
[07:02] <spartan07> SpringHerself: for an app you can add an icon to the panel to force quit an app
[07:02] <hihowareyou> hello
[07:02] <DPic> i'm trying to boot to a USB via GRUB and i'm almost there but i'm still running into some errors
[07:02] <DPic> anyone thing they could help?
[07:02] <indus> SpringHerself, probably flash
[07:02] <e04mk> do you known what modules where loaded for that card on previous versions of ubuntu?
[07:02] <SpringHerself> Huh, okay. Also, thanks Losha, that looks helpful
[07:03] <indus> SpringHerself, or probably  a bad website
[07:03] <spartan07> preposteruss: yes. whats the make of the card and your laptop?
[07:03] <rob_p> SpringHerself: From the command prompt, you can type, "xkill" then click the app you want killed.
[07:03] <lokpest> ah, fuck it, why sjould I even use flash, I could watch youtube with mplayer-plugin instead
[07:03] <Losha> SpringHerself: the whole computer freezes, or just the browser?
[07:04] <preposteruss> the card is a pcmcia card, the laptop is a old sony vaio pcg-gr370
[07:04] <ZykoticK9> !language > lokpest
[07:04] <SpringHerself> Whole computer.
[07:04] <ZykoticK9> lokpest, if you install chromium or chrome you can go to youtube.com/html5 and use HTML5 video instead of flash - doesn't work on all videos
[07:04] <preposteruss> the device shows in iwconfig and ifconfig, i think the wrong modules are loaded
[07:05] <Losha> SpringHerself: to be honest, that's usually a hardware issue. Check your ram (run memtest overnight)...
[07:05] <e04mk> run lsmod | grep orinoco and print the output here
[07:05] <SpringHerself> I'm running this on a netbook, so it's easily possible. :p Thank you for all your advice, this should help.
[07:05] <lokpest> ZykoticK9: requires propritary h.264 codec so no thanks
[07:06] <JEEBsv> flash is proprietary too o_O So you'd be using proprietary stuff anyways
[07:06] <ZykoticK9> lokpest, is flash opensource?  i don't think so...
[07:06] <JEEBsv> also, at youtube you'd end up watching H.264 anyways
[07:06] <JEEBsv> :3
[07:07] <preposteruss> e04mk:was that directed to me?
[07:07] <JEEBsv> (and not like VP6* was any better on the licensing side)
[07:07] <lokpest> ZykoticK9: nope, but I wanted to change, then it doesnt make sense to change from one non-free thing to anothre
[07:08] <lokpest> JEEBsv: that is what I am critizing, why cant google use theora...
[07:08] <JEEBsv> lokpest: Well, you _do_ know the compression difference, right?
[07:08] <lokpest> so that firefox user can watch without having to pay
[07:08] <rahduke> i lost the ability to drag and drop, whether moving things folder to folder, folder to desktop, drag and drop from archive, I can't even move things around on my desktop.... can anyone help me out. It makes no sense
[07:09] <lokpest> JEEBsv: http://people.xiph.org/~greg/video/ytcompare/comparison.html
[07:09] <e04mk> @preposteruss yep, it was
[07:09] <ZykoticK9> rahduke, are you running inside a virtual machine?
[07:09] <rahduke> ZykoticK9: no sir
[07:09] <preposteruss> ok im on another machine
[07:09] <lokpest> JEEBsv: the difference in quality is not that big
[07:09] <preposteruss> it came back with some things
[07:09] <rahduke> ZykoticK9: its actually my buddy, im talking to him on skype
[07:10] <ZykoticK9> rahduke, no idea then - i have that problem in VBox with 3D turned on for Lucid guests.  best of luck man.
[07:10] <JEEBsv> lokpest: it is. Also, theora is much slower at encoding than, say, x264. But don't misunderstand me, I'm _not_ against a free standard to be in HTML5 :P
[07:10] <JEEBsv> That comparison has been abused way too much
[07:10] <preposteruss> i see orinoco_cs,pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nostatic at the end
[07:10] <preposteruss> non_static
[07:11] <preposteruss> there's more
[07:11] <lokpest> JEEBsv: I dont think the problem is as much the standard as the webmasters that host content
[07:12] <e04mk> at least it's good it's not using ndiswrapper
[07:12] <preposteruss> yeah you don't have to with this card
[07:12] <JEEBsv> lokpest: at least you don't believe that Theora > H.264's good usage cases :)
[07:13] <e04mk> I think you had to in hardy and earlier, but I'm not shure.. =)
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[07:13] <indus> yes hello
[07:14] <preposteruss> e04mk: it worked out of the box before with ubuntu
[07:14] <preposteruss> and it half works now
[07:14] <preposteruss> i can see the network, just cant connect
[07:15] <floppyears> hi guys
[07:15] <floppyears> I need to install gcc-3.3 in ubuntu karmic
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> Preposteruss: if you boot to the older releases you can compare configs
[07:15] <floppyears> what are my options?
[07:15] <JEEBsv> lokpest: also, as a final comment -- Youtube was actually using x264 from circa 2005-2006 at that time ;)
[07:15] <floppyears> I know that is a really old version of gcc, but nothing good has come up from a google search
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> !info gcc
[07:16] <preposteruss> ActionParsnip: i just dug this comp out of the closet and put a new hd in it, i don't have the older releases
[07:16] <akorpija> anybody here know how i could extract a DVD (that's been burned as an iso)?
[07:16] <akorpija> just copy/paste?
[07:16] <floppyears> ActionParsnip: are you saying that it's best to compile gcc-3.3 from code?
[07:16] <akorpija> i want to edit a file on it, and then reburn it as an iso
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Floppyears; you may find a deb with the older version. Surely they are backward compatible?
[07:16] <sburwood> When I try to scan a document, I am offered two things  ; first of all I'm offered a USB camera with v4l and also my scanner.  How can I tell xsane to just look for my scanner?
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Floppyears: you could compile, ot maybe find a ppa. Its gonna take effort though
[07:17] <lokpest> JEEBsv: well, google could do this: http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/google-free-on2-vp8-for-youtube/
[07:18] <preposteruss> should i just ndiswrapper it
[07:18] <mjsor> networking question on 9.10.  I've noticed that my network (wireless) isn't enabled until I log in under GNOME (or KDE).  I want networking enabled when I login under an alternative environment.  Any way to get it to just be up from boot regardless of the desktop environment?
[07:18] <Losha> floppyears: why gcc-3.3 ?
[07:18] <Tully> mjsor, change the runlevel
[07:18] <celthunder> mjsor, add a network startup script to /etc/init.d
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Preposteruss: bah. If you run: sudo lshw -C network ,websearch for the product line. You could try using wicd instead. Use a different connection if you can to get fully updated
[07:19] <JEEBsv> lokpest: granted -- that would be better than Theora, and probably better than MPEG-4 ASP even. But it still IIRC was not in a very much working state at the moment of the deal IIRC. They didn't even release a version for testing :3 Also, I have a good article that has all kinds of things about digital video on the 'web
[07:19] <JEEBsv> lokpest: http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=292
[07:19] <JEEBsv> :3
[07:20] <SpringHerself> Oh, I have another silly question: How do you tell what directory a file is in? (Does that just mean the set of folders it's in?)
[07:20] <ZykoticK9> SpringHerself, directory and folder mean the same thing
[07:21] <SpringHerself> Oh, phew. Thanks.
[07:22] <viliny> Hey! - Is it possible to move a Ubuntu/Linux installation from a virtualbox environement and use that on a physical computer later on? Im guessing it suffers far less than a windows installation with all it's...things dependant on hardware setup.
[07:23] <lokpest> proprietary software should be baned
[07:23] <viliny> Possible or impossible? Feasible or not?
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> viliny: not without a lot of tears. I'd ask in #vbox
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> !ot | lokpest
[07:23] <viliny> Thanks ActionParsnip
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> Viliny: use the clone factoid to clone the packages
[07:24] <jenia> is someone here using ubuntu 9.10?
[07:24] <viliny> Clone factoid? a tool ment to reproduce stuff or?
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> Viliny: you can backup your home folder and use that once a proper install has taken place
[07:24] <viliny> jenia: most likely
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> !clone
[07:25] <karma_police> i just installed virtualbox from the website but i cannot find it in my applications list
[07:25] <jenia> when you click on netwrok/connect to hidden wireless networks/ and then you choose an already existing network
[07:25] <viliny> Ah nice ActionParsnip - will have to have a look at that.
[07:25] <jenia> i cannot press anything else after that except to choose another network and cancel
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> Karma_police: its on the repo. You can add an item there using alacarte
[07:25] <viliny> karma_police: vbox exists in the repositories as well, might be a lot less painfull
[07:26] <jenia> it says enter name and security details
[07:26] <jenia> but i cannot do that, becuase the field is unaccessible
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> Karma_police: I seem to recallthe launch command being Virtualbox and not virtualbox. Check into that first
[07:26] <karma_police> i tried the repo one.. its not the latest.. i was trying to run 10.4 on it but it fails
[07:26] <ZykoticK9> karma_police, you can start it from terminal or alt+f2 - VirtualBox (notice that capitals)
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> Karma_police: fair deal
[07:27] <SolarisBoy> im so happy with 9.10
[07:27] <SolarisBoy> ;>
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> jenia: is it greyed out or just off the screen?
[07:27] <jenia> geryed out
[07:28] <preposteruss> ActionParsnip: does sshd install with xubuntu ?
[07:28] <jenia> i can enter a new copy of that network and connect easily
[07:28] <karma_police> alt f2 works.. is there a way to put that version in the applications list?
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> Jenia: weird. Are there any bugs reported for this?
[07:28] <jenia> i havent found
[07:28] <mint> hi i have a live usb of ubuntu 9.10 can i create a save file like puppy for it
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> Preposteruss: no its optional: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[07:28] <preposteruss> gah
[07:29] <jenia> where is actually that site where there is an aggregate of bugs repors for ubuntu?
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Karma_police: use alacarte
[07:29] <preposteruss> gotta go sneak in the living room to the router
[07:29] <ZykoticK9> karma_police, next time you login check under Applications / System Tools / Sun Virtualbox
[07:29] <jenia> you know?
[07:29] <preposteruss> moms got dad in the doghouse and he's on the couch
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Preposteruss: if its web facing I suggest you change the port it uses for security
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> !bug | jenia
[07:30] <preposteruss> ActionParsnip: thanks i never thought of that i will start on my other machines
[07:30] <indus> its difficult to find package names though
[07:30] <jenia> thanks
[07:30] <karma_police> thats working.. 10.4 won't load in the repo version of vb.. i had to dl 3.1.4.. may be because i am running amd64?
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> Mint: you can save to the casperrw you created when you made the usb bootable with the OS. Its part of the procedure
[07:31] <mint> act how i used unetbootin
[07:31] <mint> ^ ActionParsnip
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> Karma_police: should be fine. You could add the vbox ppa so you get updates
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> Mint: not sure, why don't you ask the channel instead of straight at me
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> Mint: if I can reply I will
[07:32] <karma_police> how do i do that?
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> !unetbootin
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> Karma_police: use websearches to find the ppa. My web is painfully slow on my phone (save battery)
[07:33] <ZykoticK9> karma_police, instructions are on the download page http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[07:33] <ZykoticK9> karma_police, technically it's a repository and not a PPA
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> Karma_police: when the devs update the ppa you will get updated too
[07:34] <mint> hi i have a live usb of ubuntu 9.10 can i create a save file like puppy for it
[07:34] <mint> ActionParsnip: i have been
[07:34] <karma_police> ok.. i got it now.. ty:)
[07:34] <justin_> Does anyone know anything about download rates going from 1.3mbps down to around 50kbps and then back up and down? Im using an intel 3945abg wireless card with ipv6 disabled and iwl3945 driver.
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> Mint: you creat the rw file when you create the usb stick as bootable
[07:35] <lokpest> ah... Canonical has jumped the shark, better swith to Debian...
[07:35] <mint> i want to save to hdd like puppy
[07:35] <rioch> I've set up a vncserver on my home server, and I can log in fine. I have a problem however: if I log on to the server, I go directly to the desktop. If I logout, it doesn't go to the gdm loging. Instead the panel and all my app disappear, leaving just the desktop wallpaper
[07:38] <Razvan1310> hello
[07:39] <nimrod10> !ubbotu support
[07:39] <nimrod10> !support
[07:39] <Razvan1310> can someone help me
[07:39] <Razvan1310> !help
[07:40] <Razvan1310> how can i install win32 codecs to ubunru
[07:40] <mint> Razvan1310: um Wine application
[07:41] <mint> 6 wine should have win32 codexes
[07:41] <llutz> Razvan1310: visit medibuntu.org
[07:42] <Razvan1310> no wine
[07:42] <nimrod10> Razvan1310, what do you need them for ? movies ?
[07:42] <Razvan1310> yes movies
[07:42] <harisund> Anyone here has experience with dnsmasq? Do you know how to handle stuff when there are 2 interfaces for dnsmasq to serve data on?
[07:42] <Razvan1310> i cant see movies like mkv avi
[07:42] <Razvan1310> a lot of movies
[07:42] <nimrod10> have you tried smplayer or vlc they seem to work with almost every format there is
[07:42] <q_> razvan try install VLC player
[07:42] <Razvan1310> and a dvd player like power dvd
[07:43] <nimrod10> Razvan1310, you can see dvd's fine with movie player
[07:43] <Razvan1310> VLC PLAYER
[07:43] <q_> yes
[07:43] <q_> it  has all you need
[07:43] <nimrod10> for me it is either vlc or smplayer, what doesn't work on one works on the other
[07:44] <Razvan1310> that vlc and smplayer see alll bluray
[07:44] <Razvan1310> ?
[07:44] <Razvan1310> hd
[07:44] <llutz> smplayer is just a frontend to mplayer, it also needs external codecs unlike vlc
[07:44] <Razvan1310> does it loads subtitle
[07:44] <Beaver> www.search2.net a new search engine
[07:44] <nimrod10> I haven't tried blueray, yes it does subtitles
[07:45] <Razvan1310> in windows i use magic iso to mount dvd movies and power dvd to seee them
[07:45] <Razvan1310> how can i do that in ubuntu
[07:45] <Razvan1310> to mount an iso i know
[07:46] <llutz> Razvan1310: mplayer -dvd-device yourfile.iso dvd://1
[07:46] <rsk> Razvan1310 play with MPlayer or VLC
[07:46] <nimrod10> for movie take a look at this Razvan1310 : https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html
[07:46] <harisund> Anyone know how to run multiple instances of dnsmasq on Ubuntu?
[07:46] <ralph> i have another partitioning question if someone would be so kind
[07:47] <mint> Ravm: use a movie player
[07:47] <Razvan1310> is mkdir /home/user/iso or any other patition and then that command mount -t iso9600 isoimage.iso /home/user/iso
[07:47] <mint> !movie
[07:47] <mint> !dvd
[07:47] <ralph> when creating the /home partition is it a logical or a primary? i assume logical
[07:47] <mint> ^ Razvan1310
[07:47] <llutz> ralph: up to you, makes no difference
[07:47] <Razvan1310> yes
[07:47] <exn> hey guys ! does anybody else have a problem with gim 2.6 in 9.10 ? there not possible to select a layer , it changes it back when i'm realising the mouse button.
[07:48] <Razvan1310> lol
[07:48] <llutz> ralph: but due to the limitation to 4 primary-partitions, you  should prefer using logical-drives for all
[07:48] <Razvan1310> my browser do not work again
[07:50] <ralph> thanks llutz for the response
[07:50] <ralph> i assume though that the OS partition should be primary type though right?
[07:50] <llutz> ralph: no, works with logical too
[07:50] <Razvan1310> lol other internet connections are down but irc connection still works
[07:50] <Razvan1310> :)))
[07:51] <ralph> perhaps i've misunderstood the difference then
[07:51] <ralph> so really they should all be logical?
[07:51] <llutz> ralph: linux doesn't need primary partitions at all
[07:51] <ralph> what's a primary type partition then?
[07:51] <ralph> i see
[07:51] <llutz> (except that one extended holding the logical drive of course)
[07:52] <ralph> ok, thanks llutz!
[07:52] <_KAMI_> Hi!
[07:52] <_KAMI_> Let me know how to set back the window controls to their original place
[07:53] <rahduke> if i wanted to put a new HDD in my computer and ghost the HDD that holds my OS can i do that?
[07:54] <llutz> rahduke: only linux? then better clone it using rsync/cp or tar
[07:55] <rahduke> llutz: what do you mean? i want to create an exact copy of my linux OS partition bootloader and all on another HDD
[07:56] <llutz> rahduke: to copy linux-installations it is better to use rsync/tar or cp than ghost/dd/whatever
[07:56] <viliny> what is alacarte?
[07:57] <ZykoticK9> viliny, menu editor
[07:57] <viliny> oh im sorry, had the chat scrolled way up, no longer relevant to current discussion :) Thanks ZykoticK9
[07:58] <libero> hi
[07:58] <papul> part/[
[07:59] <rioch> how do I get my computer to shutdown if the power switch is pressed?
[08:00] <mealstrom> it will shutdown in 1 minute by default
[08:01] <mealstrom> and if you wans something to change use power manager
[08:01] <mealstrom> system-> settings
[08:01] <phani> hi.. i have a software called pwsafe installed on hardy.. could you please let me know how to open it ? its under /usr/bin/pwsafe
[08:01] <phani> and the file type is LSB executable
[08:01] <phani> any suggestions how i need to open ?
[08:05] <rioch> mealstrom: at the moment I don't even get the popup. In power manager, at least by vnc, there is no option to shut down when the button is pressed: only suspend and hibernate.
[08:07] <phani> rioch: i'm not very good in linux but if you want to shutdown the computer may be you can try by typing init0 in terminal that's all i know
[08:07] <indus> rioch, try alt-sysrq-b
[08:07] <harisund> AH .. I have a serious problem. I have 2 interfaces, eth1 and eth2 that I want to serve DHCP addresses out of, different subnets. Can't I run 2 DHCP servers at once, like dnsmasq and udhcpd ??
[08:07] <rioch> phani: I'm running a headless server, which I want to shutdown just by pressing the power button. It has no keyboard/mouse/monitor :)
[08:08] <phani> oh! ok may be i missed that part
[08:11] <airtonix> rioch, why not suspend or hibernate it instead ?
[08:12] <rioch> airtonix: if I cannot login and need to restart, it offers a simpler option than plugging in a keyboard/monitor/mouse
[08:12] <airtonix> rioch, via ssh i mean
[08:13] <airtonix> rioch, regadless your solution is to create a dbus script that listens for the hardware switch event and simply shuts  the machine down
[08:13] <rioch> airtonix: the server is being used to stream music, so my girlfriend also needs to be able to shut it down. If I tell her she needs to ssh into it and tell it to shutdown, she will probably dump me
[08:13] <llutz> rioch: acpi-support should react on pwrbtn
[08:13] <rioch> llutz: yes. there is an event for it. nothing seems to happen though.
[08:15] <airtonix> rioch, this will give you an idea of how to suspend/hibernate the machine via dbus... i think there is similar dbus interfaces to manipulate the power on/off : http://paste.ubuntu.com/393873/
[08:16] <rioch> thanks. strange I have to do this myself. Don't you find it strange that this isn't an option somewhere?
[08:16] <airtonix> rioch, what you should do in the mean time is check if : running "dbus-monitor --system" via ssh shows any output when you press the power button on the server
[08:17] <razor2_> howdy
[08:17] <airtonix> rioch, my suspcion is that if you don't have that option in the gui then something about your hardware is either not supported or you have missing hal packages ... who knows
[08:17] <razor2_> An unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information.
[08:17] <razor2_> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:
[08:17] <razor2_> 'E:Type 'rm' is not known on line 53 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list, E:The list of sources could not be read.'
[08:18] <razor2_> i am trying to run the update installer
[08:18] <razor2_> any help?
[08:19] <llutz> razor2_: sed -n '53,1p' /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:20] <anjilslaire> @raxzor2: what exactly are you trying to run/update?
[08:20] <razor2_> trying to install a package so that i have frostwire
[08:20] <razor2_> and thats the error i get
[08:21] <razor2_> rm   #we dont need it anymore, so conserve disk space
[08:21] <llutz> razor2_: delete that line, its a comment
[08:21] <razor2_> kk
[08:21] <llutz> razor2_: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:21] <anjilslaire> I think I missed the error message
[08:22] <golazo> what does sed do? don't get it
[08:22] <llutz> golazo: print line 53 of that file
[08:22] <golazo> ahhh, awesome ;) thanks
[08:22] <golazo> whats the .1p for?
[08:22] <llutz> 1 line
[08:23] <golazo> oh, I noticed its a ',' as well
[08:23] <golazo> nice
[08:23] <razor2_> getting permission denied
[08:23] <llutz> razor2_: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:23] <khafiz> guys, any know how to completedly remove my ubuntu?
[08:24] <khafiz> bcause i want to install new ubuntu 9.10
[08:24] <rsk> khafiz just upgrade then
[08:24] <llutz> khafiz:let the installer create a new filesystem on your partition
[08:24] <llutz> khafiz: no need to remove beofre
[08:25] <anjilslaire> agree with llutz
[08:25] <meowbuntu>  fihi how can i extract .lz files
[08:26] <razor2_> got it
[08:26] <anjilslaire> run thru the setup & format the partitions
[08:26] <llutz> meowbuntu: lzma -d foo.lz
[08:26] <razor2_> 'E:Type 'ELF' is not known on line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list, E:The list of sources could not be read.'
[08:26] <khafiz> rsk: b4 this, i hv installed ubuntu on my system but since i sent my laptop for motherboard replacement. No more on my boot option.. it automatically work like factory setting
[08:27] <llutz> razor2_: you messed up your sources list, make sure all lines begin with "deb ", "deb-src" or "#"
[08:28] <khafiz> llutz: b4 this, i hv installed ubuntu on my system but since i sent my laptop for motherboard replacement. No more on my boot option.. it automatically work like factory setting
[08:28] <razor2_> is fixed thanks guys
[08:29] <Tynice> !help
[08:29] <Tynice> !help
[08:29] <Tynice> !ops
[08:29] <Tynice> !help
[08:30] <Tynice> !ops
[08:30] <Tynice> !help
[08:30] <Tynice> !ops
[08:30] <Tynice> !help
[08:30] <FloodBot2> Tynice: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:30] <Tynice> !ops
[08:30] <pawan> hi
[08:30] <khafiz> someone may help me with the installation of grub?
[08:30] <pawan> when is the new version coming out
[08:30] <llutz> !grub > khafiz
[08:30] <pawan> !version
[08:31] <khafiz> and 1 mre thing. there is double installation of ubuntu on my system?
[08:31] <arctanx> Hopefully a simple question... does anybody know where I can find the setting to adjust gtk font sizes for running within KDE4?
[08:32] <khafiz> how am i going to remove one od them?
[08:32] <anjilslaire> what was that?
[08:32] <arctanx> Things like firefox have rather large menu fonts for my 10" screen.
[08:32] <llutz> arctanx: ~/.gtkrc-2.0
[08:32] <arctanx> llutz: Sounds promising, I'll find some docs. Cheers
[08:32] <anjilslaire> arctanx: I've got a 9" screen, lol
[08:33] <meowbuntu> llutz, i cant uncompress the .lz file with tht command
[08:34] <meowbuntu> llutz, it gives this error initrd.lz:  unknown suffix -- unchanged
[08:34] <jussi01> arctanx: if your in kde4, then system settings -> appearance -> gtk+ appearance
[08:36] <khafiz> anyone can guide on how to remove the ubuntu from my system. since i have double installed the ubuntu
[08:36] <llutz> #89310
[08:36] <llutz> ups
[08:36] <meowbuntu> hi how can i extract .lz files
[08:36] <llutz> meowbuntu: look at launchpad, bug 89310
[08:36] <arctanx> jussi01: Sadly I don't have have a "gtk+ appearance" widget in there
[08:37] <bbelt16ag> ear
[08:38] <llutz> arctanx: needs package "kde-config-gtk-style"
[08:38] <FireCrotch> meowbuntu: with "lzip" - it's not installed by default but it is in the repos
[08:40] <alabd>  installing php5 is enough to have php ?
[08:41] <arctanx> llutz: that package appears to be in debian, but not in ubuntu. Certainly not in the karmic main/restricted, universe, multiverse I have
[08:42] <llutz> !find kde-config
[08:43] <alabd> !php
[08:43] <arctanx> It looks like qtcurve or gtk2-engines-qtcurve might be what I need
[08:43] <awsten32> Can someone give me link about "Configuration Editor" ??!!
[08:44] <awsten32> helping me what is it !
[08:47] <alveraan> Hi there. I've got my python fckd up. The interpreter starts but all imports fail with an ImportError , even of modules in the standard library like array or socket. Using ubuntu server 9.10 x86. Any ideas?
[08:48] <blekos> hello, i have an external HD. In windows I could see the contents. I put it on linux I can see them. Then I put it back in windows but cannot see anything
[08:49] <rioch> how do I remove the 60 second time from shutdown at the gdm login screen? I've done it when I'm logged in, but it doesn't apply to the login screen.
[08:49] <Jayant> hellooooooooo.........someone please solve my problem....
[08:49] <abhi_nav> !someone | Jayant
[08:49] <meero> is anyone using MUTT?
[08:50] <Slart> meero: I think so, yes
[08:51] <giraffery> hello.. I have an APC InfrastruXure Manager appliance running some flavour of Linux - I have no idea what processor/architecture is running inside..
[08:51] <Jayant> does anybody know why does ubuntu live cd gives a permission denied error when i chose to "help me boot from cd" ??
[08:51] <bazhang> giraffery, ubuntu?
[08:51] <giraffery> I'd like to install Xubuntu over the top..
[08:51] <giraffery> nope, I can't tell what version it is..
[08:51] <bazhang> giraffery, does it boot from usb
[08:52] <Slart> giraffery: if you can get a terminal you could start by running "uname -a" .. perhaps it will at least tell you what kernel it is running
[08:52] <giraffery> I have *acquired* the appliance..
[08:52] <giraffery> no login - no boot from USB
[08:52] <giraffery> from my searching, I could not ID what processor it has (my searching is not exhaustive though)
[08:52] <Slart> Jayant: huh? I've never seen that option when booting from a ubuntu live cd.. it's plain regular ubuntu?
[08:53] <r389kj> how do i install radeon 3d drivers.  i think i have an old ati card.
[08:53] <Slart> !ati
[08:53] <Jayant> slart: i ran the live cd from windows. Clicked on Demo and full installation. and then there i got that option. Its used if u cannot boot from cd, it creates a boot entry for Ubuntu installation
[08:54] <r389kj> lspci | grep VGA
[08:54] <r389kj> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc R481 [Radeon X850XT-PE]
[08:54] <r389kj> Slart, ^
[08:54] <Slart> Jayant: oh.. it's probably a wubi thing.. never used that so I can't really help you
[08:55] <Jayant> slart: thanks anyways does someone else know what the prob is ??
[08:55] <abhi_nav> Jayant: are you sure you want to install ubuntu inside windows and not on it separate partition?
[08:55] <Slart> r389kj: check the link from ubottu a couple of lines up... I think it might help you
[08:56] <Jayant> abhi_nav: i want to install it separately, therefore i chose to help me boot. Actually my sys doesnt boot from CD
[08:56] <abhi_nav> Jayant: why it dont boot from cd? have you enabled boot from cd in bios?
[08:56] <Jayant> abhi_nav: yes i did, but it doesnt even after that. It used to before, but when i got a new drive, it doesnt now
[08:57] <abhi_nav> Jayant: consider installing ubuntu from pen drive. so that you can boot as that of cd and install regularly. you create bootable usb from ubuntu live cd
[08:58] <Jayant> how do i boot from pd then. What file system should it be ???
[08:58] <bazhang> Jayant, look into unetbootin
[08:58] <Jayant> bazhang: whats that ???
[08:58] <abhi_nav> Jayant: first make sure that your computer supports boot from usb. go to bios and check is this is supported or not
[08:59] <bazhang> Jayant, something to create a live usb/installer usb key
[08:59] <Jayant> abhi_nav: how do i check that ?
[08:59] <Jayant> bazhang: can you please link me to its website ? THanks
[09:00] <bazhang> Jayant, you have windows on that computer now?
[09:00] <abhi_nav> Jayant: go to bios and in the section where "Enabe boot from cd" in that section only there will be one more option meaning - "Enable boot from usb devices(pen drive, usb hdd etc)
[09:00] <kHafiz> !grub
[09:00] <Jayant> bazhang: yes
[09:00] <Jayant> abhi_nav: ok thanks
[09:00] <abhi_nav> Jayant: hmm
[09:01] <bazhang> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ Jayant
[09:01] <Jayant> bazhang: if i copy all the contents of the disk into the PD, will it be bootable ??
[09:01] <Kartagis> if I install a package from source, will that break when I upgrade ubuntu?
[09:01] <Jayant> bazhang: Thanks
[09:01] <bazhang> Jayant, that is not how it works, you need something like unetbootin to write it for you
[09:02] <Jayant> bazhang, thanks a lot...
[09:02] <misterB> anyone know why evolution alarms sounds don't work?
[09:02] <bazhang> Jayant, if you check the link, there is a windows version as well
[09:02] <blekos> could you tell me how to fsck and external hd?
[09:02] <Jayant> bazhang: yeah, thanks
[09:05] <Slart> blekos: you can either do in a terminal.. run  "fsck /dev/sd??" where the ?? depends on what the device name is for the disk.. or use gparted and click your way to it
[09:08] <rioch> is there a shortcut key to bring up a terminal window?
[09:08] <Kartagis> how can I get thunderbird latest release?
[09:08] <kHafiz> someone can help me reinstall my grub?
[09:08] <Kartagis> 3.0.3
[09:08] <Slart> rioch: there's Alt+F2.. it's not really a terminal but it can get you one
[09:08] <blekos> thnx
[09:09] <kHafiz> the boot option doesnt appear on windows start
[09:09] <Plutonesh> oie
[09:09] <rioch> Slart: of course - im so stupid. thanks
[09:09] <Slart> rioch: you're welcome
[09:10] <rioch> Slart: how do I get the shortcut key to work in vncviewer? It bring up the run dialog for my local machine rather than the one I'm connected to.
[09:10] <Plutonesh> #natal
[09:11] <Slart> rioch: ah.. tricky.. I'm not sure.. some vnc clients have alternate keys for ctrl or shift to avoid this problems.. but it might depend on your client
[09:13] <antony> hi in my system while using chatting there is a light distortion
[09:13] <alexxio_> hi, how can i prevent mysql and apache for starting at startup? i want to make system boot lighter
[09:13] <p1gmale0n> hi all
[09:14] <p1gmale0n> need help.. how install x32 library on x64 version of system ??
[09:14] <dabukalam_> p1gmale0n: sudo dpkg -i <package> --force-architecture
[09:14] <dabukalam_> Hi, How can I disalow a certain service access to the internet between certain times?
[09:16] <zamba> i have a service i want to filter by using netfilter.. the service is running on a specific port and ip.. i want to set up an individual chain/table to easily add ips that i want to give access to this service.. how do i do this?
[09:16] <ZykoticK9> p1gmale0n, use the program "getlibs" forum post / link to download http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790
[09:17] <Uresu> Hi all, I run plymouth-set-default-theme [theme] and it doesn't update, even if I add --rebuild-initrd ..... any ideas?
[09:18] <ZykoticK9> Uresu, ask in #ubuntu+1 for any Lucid questions
[09:20] <llutz> dabukalam_: use a cronjob to dis-/enable the service at vertain times or de-/activate a iptables-rule at those times
[09:20] <llutz> certain
[09:21] <dabukalam_> llutz: i don't want to disable the service completely, just disallow it outgoing access
[09:22] <llutz> dabukalam_: then use a iptables rule or if possible restart your service with different config
[09:22] <dabukalam_> !iptables
[09:23] <p1gmale0n> ZykoticK9: i'm run getlibs <path_to_bin-file> and getlibs install firefox-2 =)) but it not help ..
[09:24] <p1gmale0n> ZykoticK9: $ ldd /opt/fms/fmsmaster
[09:24] <p1gmale0n> 	libnspr4.so => not found
[09:24] <ZykoticK9> p1gmale0n, then use getlibs -i PACKAGENAME.DEB if you have it downloaded already, or read some of the other options (the automatic thing from binaries rarely works for me)
[09:24] <p1gmale0n> ZykoticK9: but i have this lib on my system..
[09:24] <richfearlss> ok, has anyone successfully run Dreamweaver on Ubuntu?
[09:25] <ZykoticK9> p1gmale0n, do you have the 32bit DEB though?
[09:25] <jacklee> Hi,I config a DNS Server and create the master zone and sub zone.but from main zone I cannot query sub zone's hosts.why?
[09:26] <awsten32> Can someone give me link about "Configuration Editor" ??!! helping me what is it !
[09:26] <p1gmale0n> ZykoticK9: i'm just installl libnspr4-0d .. i think it's x64 lib version
[09:26] <Slyboots> Hm, I think Ubuntu hates me :P "Ran into a issue whiel installing GRUB to a RAID1 array, installer just said it encountered a fatail error, but the logs show..
[09:27] <Slyboots> warn: This GPT partition label has (cut off) o BIOS Boot partition: embedding wont be possible!
[09:27] <ZykoticK9> p1gmale0n, you can download the 32bit DEB from somewhere and install it using getlibs
[09:27] <Slyboots> error: Embedding is not possible, (cut off0 t this is required when the root device is on a RAID array or LVM volume
[09:27] <Slyboots> Now, I do have /boot inside a RAID1 container but.. ... .. wtf is a bios boot partition
[09:28] <p1gmale0n> ZykoticK9: hmmm...
[09:28] <Slyboots> I though that is what /boot was for.. thats never mentioned in the install guide
[09:28] <Slyboots> And isnt GPT what.. OS X uses?
[09:30] <zamba> how do i check duplex and speed settings for my NIC?
[09:31] <llutz> zamba: sudo ethtool ethX
[09:31] <richfearlss> does anyone run Dreamweaver CS4 on Ubuntu 9.04?
[09:31] <zamba> llutz: thanks
[09:31] <meganerd> zamba: you may to to use mii-tool, depending on the NIC you have
[09:32] <zamba> meganerd: ethtool worked wonders
[09:32] <meganerd> zamba: great
[09:32] <meganerd> zamba: it is what I reach for first, sometimes it is unable to read the card, so mii-tool is a good alternative
[09:32] <pokoko222> anyone uses Ogre3d in Ubuntu?
[09:32] <dabukalam_> llutz: I'm having some problems understanding iptables fully... are you able to help?
[09:33] <bazhang> richfearlss, check the appdb, help in #winehq
[09:33] <llutz> dabukalam_: my iptables-knowledge is very limited too
[09:33] <bazhang> !appdb | richfearlss
[09:33] <zamba> dabukalam_: ask your question
[09:33] <richfearlss> !appdb
[09:33] <p1gmale0n> ZykoticK9:  great!! thx!! :beer:
[09:33] <ZykoticK9> p1gmale0n, :)
[09:33] <pokoko222> anyone uses Ogre3d in Ubuntu?
[09:34] <Jayant> anybody there who can help me please........
[09:34] <dabukalam_> zamba: I'm trying to disallow a particular service access to the internet, but I can only seem to find ways to disallow access to users or IPs... Maybe disallowing access to the group the service runs itself on?
[09:34] <zamba> dabukalam_: do you know what port it tries to communicate over?
[09:34] <dabukalam_> !ask | Jayant
[09:34] <awsten32> guyz what's the Gconf
[09:34] <theadmin> Strange.
[09:34] <llutz> dabukalam_: what service?
[09:35] <theadmin> Network manager detected two ethernet interfaces yet I have only one ethernet hole. Any ideas?
[09:35] <dabukalam_> zamba: yeah, I think I do, let me double-check
[09:35] <dabukalam_> llutz: transmission
[09:35] <Jayant> ubbotu: ok sorry
[09:35] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296070 pokoko222
[09:35] <Slart> awsten32: gconf is like the windows registry.. kind of
[09:35] <awsten32> Aha
[09:36] <Slart> awsten32: you can run "gconf-editor" in a terminal to see what's in there.. but don't change things unless you know what you're doing
[09:36] <theadmin> awsten32: You can edit it using "gconf-editor"
[09:36] <llutz> dabukalam_: why should it keep running without inet-access?
[09:36] <meganerd> theadmin: what does "ip addr" show?
[09:36] <awsten32> Is the Gconf= Configuration Editor
[09:36] <Slart> awsten32: could be.. you'll have to ask whoever said "Configuration Editor"
[09:36] <theadmin> meganerd: http://pastebin.com/Eym39G7L
[09:37] <Jayant> bazhang: i tried that software, but my sys doesnt support booting from pen drive. Is there any other way to boot it ??
[09:37] <awsten32> Ok
[09:37] <meganerd> theadmin: the second NIC icon is probably the PPP interface
[09:38] <dabukalam_> llutz: It's running on ubuntu server, and it has a web interface. Although transmission allows you to specify certain scheduled times at which to download, it still connects to peers during the off times, which is killing my network. I don't want to diable the service because during the day I want people to be able to log in and change settings, but it shouldn't see the net unti li tell it to.
[09:38] <theadmin> meganerd: I dunno, networkmanager applet displays "Auto eth0" and "Auto Ethernet"
[09:38] <dabukalam_> zamba: I think it's using 51413
[09:38] <llutz> dabukalam_: ah ok
[09:39] <meganerd> theadmin: I don't suppose you are using a PPPoE ISP?
[09:39] <theadmin> meganerd: I'm using a PPTP-VPN ISP
[09:39] <theadmin> meganerd: %)
[09:39] <Slyboots> Okay, so.. You cant have /boot inside a RAID if your disk is over 2tb
[09:39] <awsten32> guyz in the above panel there's applic... places sys,,, how if i wanna to change it !???
[09:40] <karcoxsd> http://www.gesichtskirmes.net/watch/1774-treppen-mit-style-steigen/76/
[09:40] <karcoxsd> http://www.gesichtskirmes.net/watch/1774-treppen-mit-style-steigen/76/
[09:40] <FloodBot2> karcoxsd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:40] <meganerd> theadmin: well ppp0 is showing as an interface, and likely that is what network manager is detecting as the second NIC
[09:40] <theadmin> meganerd: What's NIC anyway?
[09:40] <karcoxsd> http://www.gesichtskirmes.net/watch/1774-treppen-mit-style-steigen/76/
[09:40] <karcoxsd> http://www.gesichtskirmes.net/watch/1774-treppen-mit-style-steigen/76/
[09:41] <theadmin> meganerd: And that ppp0 only ever shows up when a VPN connection is running, so that's not it
[09:41] <FloodBot2> karcoxsd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:41] <meganerd> theadmin: network interface card... kind of a misnomer
[09:41] <karcoxsd> http://www.gesichtskirmes.net/watch/1774-treppen-mit-style-steigen/76/
[09:41] <karcoxsd> http://www.gesichtskirmes.net/watch/1774-treppen-mit-style-steigen/76/
[09:41] <meganerd> theadmin: so it goes away after you close the VPN?
[09:41] <karcoxsd> http://www.gesichtskirmes.net/watch/1774-treppen-mit-style-steigen/76/
[09:41] <karcoxsd> http://www.gesichtskirmes.net/watch/1774-treppen-mit-style-steigen/76/
[09:41] <FloodBot2> karcoxsd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:41] <karcoxsd> http://www.gesichtskirmes.net/watch/1774-treppen-mit-style-steigen/76/
[09:41] <dabukalam_> !kick
[09:41] <theadmin> meganerd: Well, if i disconnect the VPN it no longer is in ifconfig or ip addr output
[09:41] <meganerd> theadmin: you got me.  I don't usually use the network manager very often
[09:41] <ph8> exciting day
[09:41] <ph8> hello beta 1
[09:42] <meganerd> theadmin: it is supposed to since that interface does not exist anymore
[09:42] <pokoko222> bazhang ah? there is no install manual dude
[09:42] <meganerd> theadmin: as to how NW deals with it, I have no idea.  Which version of Ubuntu?
[09:42] <theadmin> meganerd: Karmic.
[09:43] <awsten32> what's Karmic mean??
[09:43] <dabukalam_> !karmic | awsten32
[09:43] <theadmin> meganerd: Whatever, deleting the "Auto Ethernet" solved it :D But it was really akward
[09:43] <meganerd> theadmin: 9.10 was the first time I actually did not blow NW away. It still causes me pain sometimes
[09:43] <theadmin> Hm, it looks like they were the same connections :/ Settings are identical for both
[09:43] <theadmin> Weird
[09:44] <awsten32> Ubuntu 9.10 = Karmic   Right???????
[09:44] <meganerd> theadmin: NM seems to get duplicates very easily, of wired and wifi connections
[09:44] <theadmin> awsten32: Yeah
[09:44] <theadmin> meganerd: I see... Hope they fix it soon
[09:44] <meganerd> theadmin: most of the time /etc/network/interfaces does what I want/need it to do
[09:44] <awsten32> lol i use Karmic  :P
[09:45] <meganerd> theadmin: I have the lucid beta, and so far it still happens there as well
[09:45] <ZykoticK9> meganerd, lucid alpha you mean :p
[09:45] <theadmin> meganerd: I won't be configuring that stuff manually because of the dynamic IP which NM nicely resolves
[09:45] <pokoko222> is there an IDE for GCC in ubuntu?
[09:45] <meganerd> ZykoticK9: yes, on my old laptop
[09:45] <theadmin> pokoko222: Err, GCC is the GNU Compiler Collection
[09:46] <meganerd> theadmin: the interfaces file handles dynamic well, it has for years.  Use whatever suits you though
[09:46] <pokoko222> theadmin well it has c, c++ and other stuff, microsoft visual studio is IDE, there is nothing similar in ubuntu?
[09:46] <Jayant> does anyone know why does ubuntu Boot CD helper gave an error "Permission Denied" when creating a boot menu for installation ??
[09:46] <theadmin> pokoko222: Try netbeans (more info: www.netbeans.org )
[09:46] <meganerd> pokoko222: there are a lot of IDEs, Eclipse, Kdevelope, monodevelope,  and more
[09:46] <pokoko222> netbeans crashes on ubuntu
[09:47] <meganerd> pokoko222: it depends on personal preferences and the language(s) you use
[09:47] <dabukalam_> Jayant: Did you check the disk for errors?
[09:47] <ZykoticK9> Jayant, you really should also mention that you're using WUBI, gives people more information to work with
[09:47] <pokoko222> meganerd well i need c++ and Ogre3d
[09:47] <dabukalam_> oh
[09:48] <meganerd> pokoko222: no idea what ogre is.  I use kdevelope and eclipse for C, idle for python, vim for quick edits of everything.
[09:49] <dabukalam_> Jayant: Is this the lates version of ubuntu? (Karmic 9.10)
[09:49] <student> vl;
[09:49] <dabukalam_> *t
[09:49] <meganerd> pokoko222: gcc is the C compiler, g++ is the C++ compiler.
[09:49] <Jayant> dabukalam_ yes
[09:50] <syli725> hi, I installed a new bootsplash theme. it's working well when loading a kernel. but the background picture of GRUB doesn't change at kernel selection stage. how to change it? thanks.
[09:50] <mamous> where to write long things :/
[09:50] <mamous> ?
[09:51] <geeker> hey..can any buddy tell me how to change or install new login themes for my ubuntu???
[09:51] <mamous> I have a big error
[09:51] <geeker> pls help
[09:51] <dabukalam_> Jayant: When you say "boot menu for installation" what do you mean? You mean at the end of the installation when it's installing GRUB (the boot manager)?
[09:51] <mamous> ?
[09:51] <theadmin> geeker: Are you using 9.10?
[09:51] <theadmin> mamous: I think you want pastebin.com
[09:51] <geeker> i dnt know
[09:51] <geeker> how to check that
[09:51] <theadmin> geeker: lsb_release --short --codename
[09:51] <geeker> lsb_release
[09:52] <Jayant> dabukalam: NO, when  i run the CD from windows and select the first option(Demo and full installation), then in the new menu, the third option(help me boot from CD). Its used because i cannot boot from CD.
[09:52] <theadmin> geeker: Put that into a terminal.
[09:52] <theadmin> geeker: Then tell me what it will give
[09:52] <geeker> what that means...
[09:52] <geeker> it says karmix
[09:52] <geeker> i mean karmic
[09:52] <theadmin> geeker: That's 9.10
[09:53] <theadmin> geeker: Wait a sec.
[09:53] <meganerd> aw
[09:53] <dabukalam_> zamba: you still here?
[09:53] <theadmin> Do this (in a terminal): sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gdm2setup/gdm2setup && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install python-gdm2setup
[09:53] <geeker> k k '
[09:53] <geeker> am here
[09:54] <theadmin> lol love Linux... just give someone a long and weird command and everything is solved. Ahem, sorry for ot
[09:54] <geeker> theadmin, u dere
[09:55] <dabukalam_> theadmin: ot?
[09:55] <theadmin> geeker: Do this (in a terminal): sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gdm2setup/gdm2setup && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install python-gdm2setup
[09:55] <theadmin> dabukalam_: Offtopic, that is
[09:55] <rsk> theadmin could have just done it the point and click way
[09:55] <rsk> the command is just faster
[09:55] <dabukalam_> theadmin: ah :D
[09:55] <geeker> theadmin: whats that, can u explain that to me..
[09:55] <theadmin> geeker: Then you will be able to configure the log-in screen trough System - Admininstration - Login Window (GDM2SETUP)
[09:56] <theadmin> geeker: That installs the login screen configuration utility
[09:56] <itheos> hey. i have an ateck eagle eye web cam. it is detected by ubuntu but cheese or other applications cant open it
[09:56] <theadmin> rsk: Yeah, it always is this way, besides the command is not language-dependent
[09:58] <itheos> any solution?
[09:59] <pokoko222> would it be a better idea to do graphics on windows and not ubuntu?
[09:59] <rsk> pokoko222 do what's best
[09:59] <theadmin> pokoko222: Dunno, Ubuntu is powerful enough for that, imho.
[09:59] <ddavids> pls i cant seem to resume my karmic desktop from sleep, i have to power shutdown and restart again... i feel this is not right and may damage the system, wht can i try?
[09:59] <pokoko222> rsk wtf if i knew best i would not ask u...
[10:00] <dabukalam_> rsk: LOL
[10:00] <theadmin> ddavids: Never do hard shutdown. Hold Ctrl+SysRQ and type reisub if system is frozen
[10:00] <dabukalam_> pokoko222: what do you mean by graphics, you're talking about image editing etc.?
[10:00] <theadmin> ddavids: That's a. b, are you sure your swap partition is in order?
[10:00] <pokoko222> dabukalam_ 3d software and games
[10:01] <ddavids> theadmin: what is Sys RQ?
[10:01] <theadmin> ddavids: If you don't have this key, then Ctrl+Right Alt+PrtSc and reisub
[10:01] <theadmin> ddavids: Dunno if it's still present on any keyboards lol
[10:01] <erUSUL> ddavids: Alt + SysRq + q
[10:01] <rsk> pokoko222 then you have to try
[10:01] <dabukalam_> dabukalam_: It's really down to personal preference. You should try out the different software available for both windows and linux, and see which one you feel most comfortable with
[10:01] <theadmin> erUSUL: q?
[10:01] <dabukalam_> pokoko222: It's really down to personal preference. You should try out the different software available for both windows and linux, and see which one you feel most comfortable with
[10:01] <rsk> pokoko222 what's best for me is probably not best for you
[10:01] <erUSUL> !sysrq
[10:02] <rsk> pokoko222 asking what's best dosen't give a good answear
[10:02] <pokoko222> rsk u sound like Budha
[10:02] <erUSUL> theadmin: it seems to be R, E, I, S, U and B
[10:02] <erUSUL> theadmin: not only Q
[10:02] <rsk> pokoko222 sure i will shut it from here then
[10:02] <theadmin> erUSUL: Err, you just said "q" yourself, quote: (01:01:30 PM) erUSUL: ddavids: Alt + SysRq + q
[10:02] <erUSUL> theadmin: sorry
[10:02] <itheos> hey. i have an ateck eagle eye web cam. it is detected by ubuntu but cheese or other applications cant open it. any solution? :D
[10:03] <erUSUL> theadmin: -ENOTENOGHCOFFEE
[10:03] <theadmin> erUSUL: o_O wha... Anyway, only combos really to know about imo are REISUB and K
[10:04] <itheos> notenoughcoffee?
[10:04] <abhi_nav> Jayant: you there?
[10:04] <colary> i got a problem with ubuntu software centre anyone can help me?
[10:04] <theadmin> colary: What is the problem?
[10:05] <colary> Package dependencies cannot be resolved
[10:05] <colary> is the error
[10:05] <dabukalam_> pokoko222: As for games, there's no question that for playing mainstream releases you're better off with windows, although if it's only a couple and they both work well on wine, it might not be worth installing windows to play them
[10:05] <colary> This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Futhermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same
[10:05] <colary> is the whole
[10:05] <theadmin> colary: You are trying to install something which conflicts with something else
[10:05] <colary> can u help me with it?
[10:05] <colary> means?
[10:06] <colary> i just wanna install few games
[10:07] <colary> what to do?
[10:07] <Wazzzaaa> my grub1 is broken. I tried to recover it from live cd but got errors (floating point exception). Since that are grub1 errors I want to install grub2.
[10:07] <itheos> any help?
[10:07] <morpheuss> crysetup and luks uses which startup scripts,want to add a script after them anyone ?
[10:07] <colary> :-/
[10:08] <Wazzzaaa> But I cannot install grub-pc from live-cd (no network in chroot). Any ideas ?
[10:08] <ryszard> :)
[10:10] <g0tcha> hey guys, is there a limit to how many virtual ips i can add in ubuntu?
[10:10] <harisund> Any advanced GNU screen users here? I want to know if I can make screen show the name of the window I am currently on (name and number preferably)
[10:10] <Wazzzaaa> harisund: I should use byobu
[10:11] <Wazzzaaa> that are some nice screen profiles which do what you want
[10:11] <colary> hey
[10:11] <colary> i just did something now it running fine
[10:11] <colary> no
[10:12] <harisund> Wazzzaaa: is byobu different than screen? I have a current screen session I am running IRSSI and other things on, can I use byobu to enhance that?
[10:12] <geeker> theadmin: can u read me...
[10:12] <geeker> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gdm2setup/gdm2setup && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install python-gdm2setup
[10:13] <harisund> Wazzzaaa: I can't loose my current screen session .. if not, I will have to do it the next time I reboot or screen crashes or something
[10:13] <geeker> can u explain the same to me..how does that command work..
[10:13] <theadmin> geeker: That goes to a terminal, not to the channel :/
[10:13] <Wazzzaaa> harisund: it IS screen, but it has some profiles
[10:13] <colary> ok
[10:13] <erUSUL> harisund: byobu is screen + plugins and themes
[10:13] <Wazzzaaa> I think you have to restart screen for it. But just check it out
[10:13] <harisund> ouch .. ok will do
[10:13] <theadmin> geeker: apt-get is a package manager. "sudo" means "run as admin". "add-apt-repository" adds a repo to your software sources.
[10:14] <melchior_> is it possible to include every headers from the same folder in one line ?
[10:14] <viliny> geeker: don't worry about it. Just google for everything - most stuff has a detailed command by command guide
[10:14] <erUSUL> melchior_: C ?
[10:14] <melchior_> yes
[10:14] <viliny> when you have enough copy-pasting behind you it kinda sticks to you and you start writing long-ass-stuff from memory :)
[10:14] <geeker> theadmin: it says it failed to download the stuff u told me..
[10:15] <geeker> i think there is some error..
[10:15] <melchior_> ah sorry i thought  i was on C channel
[10:15] <theadmin> geeker: Weird, guess something wrong with the mirrors... :/ Try it again later
[10:16] <viliny> theadmin: works for me though.
[10:16] <geeker> okay..
[10:16] <leohartx> my ubuntu do fsck at every boot, how do i change fsck frequency ? my file system is ext4
[10:17] <geeker> theadmin: googling is okay..
[10:17] <geeker> but some time its hard to get all the things, can u tell me any specific site from where i can learn things, coz i am just a newbie
[10:17] <theadmin> leohartx: AFAIK it checks every 30 mounts... Anyway, you need to edit /etc/fstab for this
[10:18] <leohartx> theadmin : how ?
[10:18] <theadmin> leohartx: Actually, i don't remember how exactly...
[10:18] <geeker> theadmin,  need a lil more help.. can u tell me how to repair grub.. if it gets broken..
[10:18] <balor> Latest intel driver has hosed the xrandr on my EeePC. I can no-longer connect an external VGA monitor.  Is this a known bug or am I billy-no-mates?
[10:19] <theadmin> geeker: Try "sudo update-grub"
[10:19] <leohartx> theadmin : oh, that's a bad news :(
[10:19] <leohartx> my ubuntu do fsck at every boot, how do i change fsck frequency ? my file system is ext4
[10:20] <ralph_> i have no idea what fsck is :P
[10:20] <geeker> no not that one..
[10:20] <ralph_> i'm new to ubuntu myself
[10:20] <erUSUL> leohartx: see tunefs man page; but anyway if it does it at every boot something else is going on
[10:21] <FermerYaRoS> Hoi people do you speack russian
[10:21] <erUSUL> leohartx: try to pass a fsck to the afected parition from a livecd and see what is repairing; if anything
[10:21] <erUSUL> !ru
[10:21] <leohartx> erUSUL : all partitions checked by fsck are clean
[10:22] <leohartx> erUSUL : and tunefs doesnt work with ext4 :(
[10:22] <ralph_> i just got ubuntu and a friend of mine said that it's supposed to come with other desktops besides Gnome but mine didn't (or it's not enabled)
[10:22] <FermerYaRoS> erUSUL no body ru
[10:22] <ralph_> anyone have any info on that? I heard it was supposed to come with KDE and Fluxxbox or something
[10:22] <harisund> oh my God who was it that suggested byobu
[10:22] <Sh3r1ff> ralph_: ubuntu has gnome, kubuntu has kde
[10:22] <_ruben_> ralph_: those arent installed by default
[10:23] <harisund> THANK YOU !! it's pretty awesome
[10:23] <erUSUL> leohartx: it has to work with ext4 ....
[10:23] <harisund> erUSUL: Wazzzaaa : thanks man ..
[10:23] <rsk> ralph_ you can install any desktop you want and switch wich one you want to use at the login screen
[10:23] <rsk> ralph_ ubuntu has dussins in the packages
[10:23] <harisund> Wazzzaaa: I wanted screen to do two things, auto launch on login and show window names on the bottom .. I have setup byobu to do both :)
[10:23] <ralph_> i see, well i went to the kde website and i didn't see a 'download' section
[10:24] <leohartx> erUSUL : tunefs: command not found <--- this is what i've received :(
[10:24] <Wazzzaaa> harisund: yeah! I love byobu
[10:24] <rsk> ralph_ use sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[10:24] <leohartx> erUSUL : i'll try to modify fstab, i've just read the man page
[10:24] <theadmin> rsk: That'd be kubuntu-desktop
[10:24] <rsk> ralph_ also it's on the frontpage of kde.org http://www.kde.org/download/
[10:24] <ralph_> lol, thanks. guess i need to read more :P
[10:24] <erUSUL> leohartx: is tune2fs ican make typos ;)
[10:25] <viliny> Quick question, does Kubuntu and Xubuntu work better than Ubuntu with apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop? it felt a bit disconnected.
[10:26] <harisund> Wazzzaaa: man, byobu / irssi / bitlbee make for a terrific combo
[10:27] <leohartx> erUSUL : ty for information, i'll check it out
[10:27] <theadmin> viliny: They just take a lot of space, especially KDE, but work quite the same as the CD releases
[10:28] <Emanon> ahh pidgin here for all protocols cept skype (64 bit skype4pidgin crashes when i have 2 skype accounts active :-( )
[10:28] <Sh3r1ff> irssi++
[10:28] <p1gmale0n> viliny: xubuntu use upstart .. in ubuntu initrd by default ...
[10:29] <theadmin> p1gmale0n: Wrong, Ubuntu uses Upstart as well
[10:29] <p1gmale0n> theadmin: realy?? how long??
[10:29] <Emanon> wow lucid in april has it been 6 months already?
[10:30] <viliny> basicly i had everything quite effed up at the end. Booting up with a xubuntu splash screen and then logging into either gdm or kde... started to feel a wee bit broken. Just wondering if the actual releases would feel more polished than my cross-wm asshattery.
[10:30] <theadmin> p1gmale0n: It's an Ubuntu project :/
[10:30] <theadmin> p1gmale0n: upstart.ubuntu.com
[10:30] <p1gmale0n> theadmin: i now
[10:31] <p1gmale0n> theadmin: but 8.10 use initrd
[10:31] <Emanon> and yes the actual releases tend to be a bit more consistent feeling than switching environments
[10:31] <theadmin> p1gmale0n: Interpid? Interpid... yeah, it does. Remember those good old day
[10:31] <theadmin> s
[10:31] <Emanon> takes a little fiddling to get it to feel native if it wasn't
[10:31] <Wazzzaaa> harisund: bitlbee looks nice, thnx :P
[10:31] <crackguy> how can I set my ip/hostname to something like<EMAIL_ADDRESS>where it appears in my /whois result, like shell accounts provides vhosts?
[10:32] <Sh3r1ff> theadmin: old days? i'm still on 8.04 ;)
[10:32] <theadmin> Sh3r1ff: :D
[10:32] <geeker> actually one of mine friends machine got sucked of grub,
[10:32] <Sh3r1ff> lts++
[10:32] <p1gmale0n> theadmin: i'm not reinstalling system .. i'm just update.. =)
[10:32] <geeker> theadmin: and it cant load the linux now.. so how it can be repaired...
[10:32] <viliny> crackguy: i guess you have to own the crackguy.net domain for that
[10:33] <crackguy> viliny, i do!
[10:33] <p1gmale0n> and 8.03 is LTS .. i'm use 8.04 on all my server stations
[10:33] <viliny> alright, then i think you have to make the machine that you use irc from to somehow assume that
[10:33] <viliny> really hazy for me how it works actually, someone with expertise please explain!
[10:33] <crackguy> viliny, good thought..
[10:33] <geeker> theadmin,
[10:33] <theadmin> geeker: You'll have to reinstall GRUB. To do so, you need an Ubuntu live CD
[10:34] <geeker> okay..
[10:34] <Emanon> clear
[10:34] <geeker> u mean i need to reinstall the whole OS..
[10:34] <geeker> is that so??
[10:34] <Emanon> no
[10:34] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: a dns resolve to crackguy.net should point to that machine
[10:34] <theadmin> geeker: After you boot from it, just do "grub-install /dev/sda" (replace /dev/sda with the hard drive you install to)
[10:34] <Emanon> just the bootloader
[10:35] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, i can do that, but is there anything that machine needs to know?
[10:35] <geeker> theadmin: one sec... can u tell me a lil about that thing /dev/sda or /dev/hda??? i mean  what are they..
[10:35] <vlt> Hello. I'm runnning a vncserver session on a headless ubuntu server. Is there any way I can provide a virtual OpenGL interface to programs running in that session?
[10:35] <ravionrails> karmic is so bad in network, internet disconnect and blinking screen , so that i am not upgrading my system from interpid
[10:35] <Emanon> geeker: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_GRUB
[10:35] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: not really, just make sure /etc/resolv.conf is correct
[10:36] <Emanon> geeker: anything in the /dev/ directory will be a device (hard disk, audio, mouse keyboard anything)
[10:36] <geeker> theadmin: hmmm...let me see... hey i have another query... if i need to see all my information about my h/w.. hw can i do that
[10:36] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, wouldn't i need to setup a dns server on the machine
[10:36] <theadmin> geeker: sudo lshw should give you the most of it
[10:37] <visik7> hi
[10:37] <theadmin> wtf, i try to create a folder with a cyrillic name and nautilus crashes :/
[10:37] <Emanon> hi visik7
[10:37] <visik7> anyone knows about java applets and X.org ? I have an applet that crash my X.org
[10:37] <ZykoticK9> geeker, you might also be interested in the output of "lspci -vnvn"
[10:37] <Emanon> you have cyrillic font installed theadmin
[10:37] <theadmin> Emanon: Yep, proof -> ЫЫЫЫ
[10:38] <geeker> theadmin: ok.. isn't their a command like inxi or ixni some thing like so..
[10:38] <Emanon> and apparently so do i hehe
[10:38] <theadmin> geeker: Never heard
[10:38] <Emanon> learn something new every time hehe
[10:38] <geeker> ZykoticK9: what that is all about.. pls explain..
[10:38] <harisund> Wazzzaaa: I need to hang out more on IRC to learn such cool apps like byobu/ bitlbee whatever
[10:38] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: not really, when you register a domain, you have to specify a dns server (most likely 2), and those dns servers should have cracjkguiy.net in their config
[10:38] <ZykoticK9> geeker, it will show you detailed info on some of your hardware
[10:38] <volkan> has anyone know anything about using g105m nvidia card on UBUNTU
[10:38] <Wazzzaaa> :)
[10:39] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: depends if you administrate the dns servers or not
[10:39] <Wazzzaaa> I just installed grub2 and when selecting UBuntu I get: error: You need to load the kernel first
[10:39] <Wazzzaaa> Any ideas?
[10:39] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, so you are suggesting, i change my dns server settings of my domain crackguy.net to my internet ip address?
[10:39] <theadmin> Wazzzaaa: Grub2 is a bad thing in general. I'd wish i could revert to Grub1, but it ain't booting my XP
[10:39] <Emanon> i assume you have an acer volkan?
[10:40] <geeker> okay..
[10:40] <volkan> yes unfortunately i do...
[10:40] <Wazzzaaa> lol theadmin, I just installed grub2 because I couldn't fix my grub1 problem
[10:40] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: depends, do you have a static ip?
[10:40] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, yup!
[10:41] <Wazzzaaa> in #grub they don't support grub1 anymore
[10:41] <geeker> ZykoticK9,  can u tell me about how to under stand partitioning in ubuntu..
[10:41] <theadmin> Wazzzaaa: I see. Well, i kinda am absolutely noob about second grub
[10:41] <Emanon> 32 bit?
[10:41] <ZykoticK9> geeker, sorry man i stay away from partitioning stuff over IRC, too dangerous
[10:42] <Wazzzaaa> I'm getting better with it :)
[10:42] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: then you can, or you can configure your dns to point <hostname>.crackguy.net to your ip
[10:42] <geeker> well..
[10:42] <volkan> eamon if u ask me yes i have a 32 bit version of ubuntu
[10:42] <geeker> its okay..
[10:42] <geeker> u can tell me..
[10:42] <geeker> i wnt apply any thing..
[10:42] <geeker> u can teach me in a way..
[10:42] <geeker> coz i have no idea about the things..
[10:42] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, i can try that, but i am not very convinced it is that simple, cause i heard something about reverse dnsing and stuff
[10:43] <ZykoticK9> !enter > geeker
[10:43] <Emanon> volkan: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_190.42.html
[10:43] <theadmin> geeker: Well, basically, hard disks are /dev/sd + LETTER + PARTITION NUMBER. Where letter is a device identifier... First hard disk would be /dev/sda, and partition number... is a partition number, such as 1.
[10:43] <Emanon> that is the driver for support of that card if you didnt have it already
[10:44] <theadmin> Hm... wait a sec.
[10:44] <bbelt16ag> what the  heck is  wrong with pulse audio it  freezes up  after  a bit of playing music?
[10:44] <theadmin> If there is "eth0", why isn't there sd0?
[10:44] <volkan> ow thanks i had downloaded the latest version but it had not worked i hope this helps
[10:44] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: that is also on the dns server
[10:44] <volkan> thanks for interest
[10:44] <Emanon> no prob friend good luck
[10:44] <theadmin> Err, sda0 or something
[10:44] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, what dns server? i haven't set up any dns server.. or do you mean my domain name...
[10:45] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: dns is telling crackguy.net is that ip, reverse dns is telling that ip is crackguy.net
[10:45] <Emanon> problems with certain hardware is depressingly common
[10:45] <geeker> theadmin, ok thats why they have written so like sda0, sda1.. and so on, now how to guess about, which one is first and which one is second
[10:46] <Emanon> there wont be sda0
[10:46] <geeker> Emanon, whay so??
[10:46] <Emanon> disk partition numbering starts at 1 in linux geeker
[10:46] <Emanon> it starts at 0 in bsd if thats any consoloation
[10:46] <Emanon> consolation i mean
[10:46] <theadmin> geeker: You can look at gparted
[10:46] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: when you register a domain name, a dns server has to have the information which ip is habndling crackguy.net, either you can have your own dns server doing that, or it is the company where you registered your domain name
[10:46] <cTaPuK> !seen one
[10:46] <geeker> sorry but whats that Emanon , i mean bsd??
[10:47] <ZykoticK9> Emanon, now start to explain slices ;)
[10:47] <Emanon> hehe
[10:47] <theadmin> geeker: Another Unix based system... There are Linux, BSD and Mac... all are unix based
[10:47] <Emanon> bsd is another operating system that like linux is based off of unix
[10:47] <Sh3r1ff> !dns | crackguy
[10:47] <Emanon> the latest versions of mac anyways
[10:48] <Emanon> it tends to have more stability and logical development but is as a general rule a little slower to adopt exciting new tech
[10:48] <Sh3r1ff> hmm, ubottu doesn't know anything about dns
[10:48] <SolarisBoy> heh
[10:49] <Emanon> id say if your willing to go hardcore its well worth a look but dont be surprised if things are different than you expect
[10:49] <iwobbles> +
[10:49] <Emanon> device labeling being one of them hehe
[10:49] <epinky> Sh3r1ff: I think it was deleted time ago
[10:49] <Emanon> but it might be worth it just for zfs
[10:50] <Emanon> but im getting ot
[10:52] <geeker> hey can any one tell me more of linux partitioning..
[10:52] <Emanon> what would you like to know geeker
[10:52] <geeker> i cant get things like /dev/sda1
[10:52] <geeker> gparted
[10:52] <geeker> -gparted
[10:52] <geeker> --gparted
[10:52] <Emanon> then you probably have ide or pata drives
[10:53] <epinky> !disks | geeker
[10:53] <Emanon> good command epinky
[10:53] <Emanon> palimpset is decent as well
[10:54] <geeker> it says i have /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, unallocated and than again a new window tab, and than /dev/sda3, /dev/sda4.. i cant get how is the hierarchy followed here, like in windows there are c drive or d drive.. so how can i compare them here
[10:54] <JoshuaL> What is a good password manager for Ubuntu?
[10:56] <Sh3r1ff> geeker: you can compare windows c an d drive with mount points in linux
[10:56] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, i am on my dns server serttings, this is what it shows
[10:56] <crackguy> You are currently using our domain name servers (DNS) for your domain.
[10:56] <crackguy> Please enter DNS name only (ex: ns1.mydomain.com). Please don't enter IP
[10:56] <crackguy> addresses. You can enter up to five name servers. It is advisable to enter atleast
[10:56] <crackguy> two nameservers for a domain. Please note that it will take up to 24 hours for
[10:56] <crackguy> the changes to take effect
[10:56] <FloodBot2> crackguy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:56] <crackguy> oops! sorry
[10:57] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: so they are handling the dns
[10:57] <Emanon> geeker: /dev/=device sd=scsi drive (as opposed to ide or pata) a-z is which drive (first is a second b and so on) and numbering is which partion on that drive
[10:57] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, yeah, but as they suggested, i can not enter an ip address
[10:57] <Emanon> so /dev/sda1 is the first partition on the first scsi controlled drive geeker
[10:57] <Emanon> sda2 the second and so forth
[10:57] <friendishan> Hello
[10:58] <p1gmale0n> q
[10:58] <Emanon> hi friendishan
[10:58] <neil_d> how do I get a list of installed packages?
[10:58] <crackguy> !bind
[10:58] <stanman246> hi, how can i remove a ubuntu box from a SBS 2003 domain?
[10:58] <crackguy> !bind9
[10:58] <Emanon> neil_d: open synaptic and filter by package status
[10:58] <ZykoticK9> !clone | neil_d
[10:58] <Emanon> or what ZykoticK9 said
[10:59] <geeker> thanks Emanon : i can get things now, it means like as u said my ubuntu is installed to /dev/sda2 means installed to second partition.. is that so..
[10:59] <friendishan> I want to make a backup of my evolution so that i can transfer every mail and accounts to my other computer, please tell me how to do that, thanks
[10:59] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: that is for entering your nameservers, if you don't have your own dns server, you can't enter a nameserver (nameserver = dns server)
[10:59] <Emanon> yup
[10:59] <nyaa> is there a way to clear a processor of other processes so that I can use it to only support 1 process?
[10:59] <Emanon> second partition on first drive
[10:59] <friendishan> !backup evolution
[10:59] <Emanon> friendishan: it will be an option in evolution's file menu
[11:00] <stanman246> how to logon local instead of on a domain?
[11:00] <Emanon> friendishan: File>Backup Settings
[11:00] <geeker> Emanon, ok so what is thios extended partition than, again it has roots under it, which says /dev/sda5 and /dev/sda4
[11:00] <Emanon> friendishan: will back up everything but saved passwords
[11:00] <SeR> Îëåíè )
[11:01] <Emanon> geeker: a drive can support up to 4 primary partitions (sda1-4) and more extended (or logical) partitions (5-whatever the max is)
[11:01] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, alright, i've set my subdomain atif.crackguy.net to <IP_ADDRESS> in A (Address) record type.. i hope that is right
[11:01] <attack> SeR yeah :)
[11:01] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: that's how it works ;)
[11:01] <Emanon> so 1-4 are primaries and 5-whatever are extended which means their essentially smaller partitions inside of another one
[11:02] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, awesome! now how can i use it as a vhost?
[11:02] <Emanon> so what that means is it wanted to separate files (for better performance/security) into more partitions than it could have as primary so it made extended partitions to help with that geeker
[11:03] <geeker> Emanon, that is okay.. but here i have /dev/sda5 too under extended
[11:03] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vhost_(IRC) suggests that 1. The vhost in question must have an A record which points to the IP address from which the connection to the IRC network is being made. 2. The reverse DNS for the IP address must point back to the vhost.
[11:03] <Emanon> by separating directories into partitions made for specific uses you can increase performance and security by altering partition-wide permissions (no executables file size quotas etc)
[11:03] <Emanon> right 5 will be the first extended partition
[11:04] <Emanon> regardless if there is a 4 3 or 2
[11:04] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: sec, let me read the webpage
[11:04]  * SeR slaps attack around a bit with a large trout
[11:04] <SeR> äàé äåíåã)
[11:04] <attack> zachem?
[11:04] <attack> idi rabotaj
[11:04] <attack> loh°
[11:04] <attack> :>
[11:05] <FloodBot2> attack: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:05] <SeR> êóïëþ ñëîíà)
[11:05] <BigWookie> hey, anyone here got an ION graphics card with hdmi and vga , i need to know if it can handle 1920x1200 dualhaed
[11:05] <SeR> íå ôëóäè,ëîõ )
[11:05] <attack> sam loh
[11:05] <iceroot> BigWookie: ##hardware
[11:05] <BigWookie> thx
[11:05] <BigWookie> but its about the linux driver in ubuntu too
[11:06] <Emanon> that make any sense geeker?
[11:06] <epinky> !lv | SeR
[11:06] <SeR> epinky ?)
[11:06] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: when i do nslookup of atif.crackguy.net, i get the ip you mentioned
[11:07] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: but the reverse is not ok
[11:07] <volkan> hi there im very new for linux so how can i install xfree86 software on my linux i dont know any article or help
[11:07] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, yeah, how do i setup a reverse?
[11:07] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: that is also on the dns server
[11:07] <volkan> eamon thanks again btw i think we will be good friends soon:D
[11:08] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, i am reading this http://www.leveltendesign.com/blog/nickc/virtualhost-tricks-pointing-your-machines-ip-a-different-location-localhost
[11:08] <epinky> SeR: Lūdzu pievienoties šis kanāls #ubuntu-lv
[11:09] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: you need a PTR record on your dns server
[11:09] <Emanon> you might try the package manager synaptic and look for files with xfree86 in the title volkan
[11:10] <Emanon> but you should note that The Xorg server supports most modern graphics hardware from most vendors,
[11:10] <Emanon> and supersedes all XFree86 X servers. volkan
[11:10] <geeker> Emanon, i am getting confused man.. i cant understand the partition matter, it says, one needs to have root partition than home and than swap..
[11:10] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, i am trying to figure out how
[11:11] <Emanon> geeker the root partition (labled as / ) is your whole system directory
[11:11] <Emanon> within that are directories for various things including /home which is your personal folder directory
[11:11] <Emanon> like My Documents in windows
[11:12] <Emanon> swap is virtual memory used when you need more than your physical memory can provide
[11:12] <Emanon> like the windows pagefile
[11:13] <xhunter> How can I changed my login screen in Ubuntu ?
[11:13] <xhunter> I want to put another one .
[11:13] <Emanon> System>Administration>Login Screen xhunter
[11:14] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: btw, the site you posted isn't really relative to what you're doing
[11:14] <xhunter> Emanon, Thank you.
[11:14] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, yeah I realised
[11:14] <Emanon> np xhunter
[11:15] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, i can't find any way to setup a PTR record in my domain settings
[11:15] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: do you have anywhere the option to set a reverse dns?
[11:16] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, i can't find any, i am using www.namecheap.com for my domain, you can click on Help and find topics, there is nothing there either
[11:16] <Myxb> hi! where do i setup how often rsyslogd writes to disk? here is accesses disk about every 3-4 sec. anyone?
[11:18] <Sh3r1ff> !pastebin
[11:18] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, http://freedns.afraid.org/ offers free dns services but in the features list it only lists free ipv6 reverse hosting
[11:19] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/393959/
[11:20] <tekromancR> ^Wk
[11:20] <xhunter> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/GNU%2BLinux+-+Black?content=116213
[11:20] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, yeah i realise it is not resolving to that domain yet, that's what i am trying to setup
[11:21] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: resolving the domain is ok, it is just the reverse that still points to your isp
[11:21] <crackguy> Sh3r1ff, yeah how do I make a revers :(
[11:21] <crackguy> reverse*
[11:23] <Rotonen> so, having this rather interesting problem that everything typed in with a keyboard gets doubled: i've tried several pieces of keyboard hardware so far
[11:23] <Sh3r1ff> crackguy: you have to ask your isp to add a reverse record in their dns
[11:24] <Sh3r1ff> and point that to atif.crackguy.net
[11:25] <red> how can i disable the default keyring nag upon boot & wifi connection?
[11:26] <red> and still retain automatic wifi connection
[11:26] <kriss_> hello
[11:28] <kriss_> Talk?
[11:28] <pjanecze> hi, i have ftp server and want to allow for user to read, execute but not to remove file. How to do this?
[11:28] <Emanon> no write permission
[11:28] <chilli0> How can i start a cron job at 12:00 ?
[11:29] <pjanecze> no write permission dont work
[11:29] <chilli0> 2AM sorry.
[11:29] <nibbler> chilli0, 0 2 * * * /my/command
[11:29] <kriss_> I do not know
[11:29] <chilli0> thanks
[11:29] <nibbler> hi kriess
[11:29] <Myxb> red: i think you may have an "auto" wireless connection in NM which you do not have a password for. check "wireless tab" and just remove unneeded ones.
[11:29] <kriss_> come talk to me?
[11:30] <chilli0> Thank you.
[11:30] <epinky> red_: http://davestechsupport.com/blog/2009/01/16/how-to-remove-ubuntus-password-keyring/
[11:30] <nibbler> kriss_, this is a support channel, if you have any question about ubuntu, just ask, all in one line, and see if someone helps you out
[11:30] <nibbler> chilli0, welcome
[11:31] <kriss_> understand
[11:31] <phoenix__> hello
[11:31] <nyaa> is there a way to make a process be treated as a real time process?
[11:33] <Emanon> change it's priority with gnome-system-monitor?
[11:33] <nibbler> nyaa, in the sourcecode of the process you can do that, as just the priority will not be enough usually, but memlocking etc has to be cared for
[11:34] <Kentrel> Anyone know how I can configure Evolution to download mail from my gmail account, but to leave it unchanged and unread on gmail's server, so that Outlook will download it and recognise it as new mail
[11:35] <Emanon> thats the default setting in evolution Kentrel
[11:35] <Sh3r1ff> Kentrel: use imap
[11:36] <Sh3r1ff> Kentrel: but it won't see it as unread mail, because you already read it
[11:36] <Sh3r1ff> Kentrel: unless you use pop and select the option to leave a copy on the server
[11:36] <Emanon> i use pop and i had to tell gmail to delete my messages when evolution downloaded them (or even mark them as read) so check the settings gmail side
[11:37] <Kentrel> I see ok
[11:37] <nyaa> nibbler caramba, so how would I make a wine process real time?
[11:37] <Wazzzaaa> Hey, my /boot (ext2) partition doesn't has an UUID when I do nlkid
[11:37] <Wazzzaaa> blkid*
[11:37] <Wazzzaaa> any idea what can be the problem?
[11:39] <its-me-again_> hi i cant find teh .deb bownload fior urby
[11:39] <Sh3r1ff> Emanon: that's not the standard behaviour
[11:39] <Emanon> was for me idk maybe their default changed
[11:40] <Sh3r1ff> Emanon: even it was like that for you, it doesn't make that the default behaviour
[11:41] <nibbler> nyaa, not at all. whats your problem?
[11:41] <nyaa> nibbler: I've been trying to convince a friend to use linux but he gets much better fps in wow in windows =x I have a real time kernel so I'm experimenting to see if I can beat out windows
[11:42] <Emanon> might consider some of the awesome linux fps games
[11:42] <rsk> nyaa rt kernels are slower than normal kernels
[11:42] <nyaa> nibbler I've tried using nice, and setting it with all sorts of configurations as far as what core(s) it runs ot with taskset
[11:42] <freqmod_r> Does anybody know how to make grub-2 to boot an entry automaticly
[11:42] <nyaa> rsk then what would make a kernel get more fps in wine?
[11:43] <rsk> nyaa it mostly depends on the videocard driver
[11:43] <rsk> nyaa no
[11:43] <freqmod_r> I have some servers which doesn't do that as default
[11:43] <nyaa> rsk so for nvidia cards is there some secret driver that gets better fps?
[11:43] <rsk> nyaa no
[11:43] <nibbler> nyaa, realtime does not make your system faster... you have an abstraction layer, that takes performace....
[11:44] <nyaa> nibbler understandable, but if we're just playing wow in a beast of a machine, it should allow the game to utilize more of the machine right?
[11:44] <rsk> nyaa no it dosent matter what the machine is
[11:44] <root_> I'm Here
[11:45] <nibbler> nyaa, no
[11:45] <rsk> nyaa realtime is just a guarante that you get stuff done in a certian ammount of time
[11:45] <freqmod_r> http://pastie.org/866395 is my grub-config
[11:45] <rsk> nyaa and by that is sacrifices things to get them done, meaning a slower overall system
[11:45] <root_> who is use BackTrack?
[11:45] <rsk> root_ #backtrack
[11:45] <Emanon> i do when its needed root_
[11:46] <nyaa> rsk then would you have any recommendations?  maybe a really short timeslice?
[11:46] <krishnasut> hello
[11:46] <rsk> nyaa what nvidia driver are you using now?
[11:46] <Emanon> need a good guitastic grub config utility for gnome
[11:46] <volkan> i downloaded and extracted all the tar files as requested but i dont know what to do now to make the installation of xfree86
[11:46] <bazhang> root_, #backtrack-linux for backtrack support
[11:46] <rsk> nyaa read the appDB entry for wow, that should give some hints
[11:47] <root_> backtrack3 better than 4
[11:47] <nyaa> rsk tried everything from 185.x to the very latest which is 190.53
[11:47] <rsk> volkan they surely have an install readme?
[11:47] <nyaa> rsk I've been over that whole thing, tried all the advice there.
[11:47] <rsk> nyaa what wine versions have you tried?
[11:47] <nyaa> rsk latest version and the 1.x that is in the ubuntu repos
[11:48] <rsk> nyaa and have you tried cleaning .wine/ every now and then?
[11:48] <rsk> between wine versions
[11:48] <nyaa> rks also tried older versions but dapper etc won't even install heh
[11:48] <Emanon> try https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa
[11:48] <nyaa> rsk I have not tried that, where's .wine/ at?  you mean kust in the home folder?
[11:48] <rsk> yes in home usually
[11:49] <nyaa> rsk so how do you clean it out? what parts do you take out?
[11:49] <rsk> everything
[11:49] <rsk> beware that it erases all wow data also
[11:49] <rsk> and all other wine installed apps
[11:49] <nyaa> yeah installing that was a pain, I'll prob save the folder
[11:51] <zonanet_> waiting ubuntu 10.4
[11:51] <bazhang> zonanet_, lucid discussion and support in #ubuntu+1
[11:51] <ineverexist> f*cking apt watch, how to kill it ? i can install nothing about a hour
[11:52] <nyaa> is there a way to clear other processes off a core, and reserve it for just a few processes?
[11:52] <bazhang> inversions, watch the language please
[11:52] <bazhang> inversions, sorry ignore that
[11:53] <bazhang> ineverexist, no cursing here please
[11:53] <ineverexist> nothing happens without a reason, but ok
[11:53] <daedaluz> anyone having any success with Catalyst 10.1 on 64bit?
[11:53] <vlt> Hello. I'm runnning a vncserver session on a headless ubuntu server. Is there any way I can provide a virtual OpenGL interface to programs running in that session?
[11:54] <its-me-again> i am needing a list of files in teh ubuntu repos i need to find ruby
[11:54] <bazhang> its-me-again, apt-cache search ruby
[11:54] <its-me-again> not to install in terminal but the actual download
[11:54] <ineverexist> this is be really old bug or what
[11:54] <ratty___> hey
[11:54] <ratty___> I installed phpmyadmin and didn't set a password
[11:54] <Sh3r1ff> its-me-again: apt-cache search ruby ;)
[11:54] <ratty___> this now proves problematic as I can't login to phpmyadmin with no password
[11:54] <ratty___> any idea how I change it?
[11:55] <bazhang> its-me-again, for ubuntu? or debian?
[11:56] <its-me-again> any .deb for my puppy install
[11:56] <jastor> its-me-again: isnt there a option for apt-get to just download the .deb ?
[11:56] <mik__> hi
[11:56] <dayo> my onboard NIC has got a shaky lan port. i want to install a NIC but have it be eth0,not eth1. how do i do this?
[11:56] <bazhang> its-me-again, puppylinux? try their support channel
[11:56] <its-me-again> jastor not in this case
[11:56] <jastor> i couldve sworn there was .. goign to doublecheck
[11:56] <jastor> its-me-again: ok ... ?
[11:56] <its-me-again> bazhang THEY DONT KNOW THEY SAID ASK HERE
[11:56] <stanman246> i tried to join a sbs2003 domain, now i can't login. How do i unjoin?
[11:57] <jastor> its-me-again: its a borked version of apt-get ? or it doesnt have apt-get at all?
[11:57] <vlt> dayo: I'd edit /etc/udev/rules.d/*network*
[11:57] <bazhang> its-me-again, no need for the caps
[11:57] <its-me-again> SOMEONE HERE WILL KNOEW WHERE I CAN GET ONE
[11:57] <ineverexist> puppy f*ck too, bug in loader, then freeze system with disc detection
[11:57] <jrib> ineverexist: stop with the language please
[11:57] <vlt> dayo: It's /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules here, actually.
[11:58] <jastor> its-me-again: apt-get -d install <package> worked fine for me
[11:58] <its-me-again> ok sorry i lost it there just i  am trying to install a ubuntu application called net responsability http://www.netresponsibility.com/download.php  i have done that but need teh ruby package as dependancy
[11:58] <Sh3r1ff> its-me-again: you want the .deb for ruby?
[11:59] <its-me-again> ubuntu is my main os
[11:59] <jastor> its-me-again: could be that the ruby youre after isnt in sources.list ? add some more deb http://bablaböaböa/
[11:59] <dayo> vlt: thanks. got it. :-)
[11:59] <ineverexist> today unfortunately, so instead admonish really help, ok
[11:59] <meowbuntu> its me
[12:00] <meowbuntu> where is teh download for ruby please
[12:00] <jastor> meowbuntu: i just did a apt-get -d install ruby .. it downlaoded to /var/cache/apt/archives/rubyblablablabl.deb
[12:00] <jrib> meowbuntu: constantly repeating and caps just gets you ignored, it doesn't help you get an answer faster
[12:01] <meowbuntu> jastor no its not that i am wanting teh .deb download from the internet from a website there not repos and stuff
[12:01] <kormoran> napisz coś po polsku!
[12:01] <jrib> !pl | kormoran
[12:01] <bazhang> kormoran, /join #ubuntu-pl
[12:01] <xhunter> meowbuntu, maybe you should ask on #ruby
[12:01] <Sh3r1ff> meowbuntu: then try the ruby website, if you can't find it, go complain there
[12:01] <jastor> meowbuntu: ok :P
[12:01] <meowbuntu> jastor good for you listen to what i need and help me
[12:01] <sept_> un xubuntu, can i enable compiz with xfwm4 decorator?
[12:01] <kormoran> ok! zrozumiałem.
[12:02] <jastor> meowbuntu: but may i ask whats wrong with the repos?
[12:02] <jastor> meowbuntu: if you want to build it yourself you could just apt-get source ruby
[12:02] <volkan> dears... help me i cant install nvidia driver i have the file as a format .run
[12:02] <jrib> !nvidia | volkan
[12:02] <jastor> volkan: chmod +x nvidia.run && ./nvidia.run
[12:02] <James_T_Kirk> Hi all.
[12:03] <James_T_Kirk> I have a problem. I have a 9.04 installation and of late the system has been freezing up the minute Update Manager starts. I havent logged onto my Ubuntu session for a long time, today I did a major upgrade from root, but the problem persists. What could be wrong?
[12:04] <meowbuntu> jastor can i pm you
[12:04] <jastor> meowbuntu: hmm ..
[12:04] <jastor> meowbuntu: ok
[12:04] <Gnoxter> Hello
[12:05] <Gnoxter> Got some Problem, noone could help me so I am here to ask
[12:05] <James_T_Kirk> I also ran dpkg and fsck, as well as apt-get update and apt-get upgrade (using --fix-missing), but still nothing's happening.
[12:06] <Emanon> !ask | Gnoxter
[12:06] <xhunter> Lol.
[12:06] <James_T_Kirk> Do I have a corrupt installation? I have a dual OS on my laptop.... Windows Vista and Ubuntu 9.04
[12:06] <Sh3r1ff> James_T_Kirk: is your system up to date?
[12:06] <xhunter> !ask | xhunter
[12:06] <Emanon> well it IS vista thats about as corrupt as ive found
[12:07] <James_T_Kirk> Sh3r1ff: I just did a major update today... both update AND upgrade, via apt-get from root login (not X-Window).
[12:07] <Gnoxter> I brought a netbook a week ago it came with win7 starter. So I just tried to install ubuntu for dualboot. I set up a live-USB using UNetBootin. So then I booted form it and Got the Problem, that the installler did not find the Win7 Part. It didn't find any Partition so I set up the USB a second and third time but it always detected only an empty HDD. What shall I do`?
[12:07] <James_T_Kirk> Sh3r1ff: That was the only way it would work, as it failed to run under GNOME.
[12:08] <Sh3r1ff> James_T_Kirk: and ubuntu is now up to date?
[12:08] <James_T_Kirk> Sh3r1ff: I cant tell you, since I cant access it... total freeze-up man! LOL
[12:09] <Emanon> Gnoxter: try going to windows side defragging and resizing the partition from that side
[12:09] <James_T_Kirk> Sh3r1ff: I am on Vista at the moment, which is not really where I would like to be. LOL
[12:09] <Gnoxter> I did. But didnt help.
[12:09] <Gnoxter> It also does not detect the rescue partition from windows
[12:09] <dr3mro> please i use karmic and my network stopped working i can only log to other computers by smb://ip and i cant see any pc on my lan and i cant share any think if i share a folder it is not accessible and windows pc is prompted for user and password when they try to acces my computer .. using ubuntu karmic and laptop with wireless connection and when i try dpkg-reconfigure samba i get (   sed: -e expression #1, char 140: unknown option to `s' ) please help
[12:09] <Emanon> sure your looking at the right partition Gnoxter?
[12:10] <jrib> meowbuntu: packages.ubuntu.com but make sure you do not break your system
[12:10] <Sh3r1ff> James_T_Kirk: when you log on on your ubuntu, take a terminal and update till all updates are installed, then log on in X and try the update manager
[12:10] <Gnoxter> Yep. Just one HDD and Installer says, its empy
[12:10] <Emanon> might be looking at the usb i mean Gnoxter
[12:10] <Gnoxter> nope this one is shown too
[12:10] <James_T_Kirk> Sh3r1ff: Thanks. Will try again...
[12:10] <Emanon> and the ramdisk i am to assume
[12:11] <James_T_Kirk> bye all.
[12:11] <Gnoxter> only 1.9 gb usb and 2.5gb HDD but hdd ist parted but its only shown as empty
[12:12] <Emanon> seriously its running windows 7 on a 2.5g disk?
[12:12] <Emanon> that seems hinky
[12:12] <umang> Do I have to install IcedTea to get Java applets to work? I installed sun-java6-plugin and Firefox still cribs about plugins that need to be installed. When it gives me options, I can choose the sun plugin but it says already installed in the next step.
[12:12] <Gnoxter> 250gb Im sorry
[12:12] <Emanon> oh ok
[12:13] <archboxman> erUSUL: so I am going to update to windows 7 so I can play Bad Company 2 ..... were is the cheapest copy I can get windows 7
[12:13] <Emanon> umang: try sun-java6-plugin
[12:13] <dr3mro> please i use karmic and my network stopped working i can only log to other computers by smb://ip and i cant see any pc on my lan and i cant share any think if i share a folder it is not accessible and windows pc is prompted for user and password when they try to acces my computer .. using ubuntu karmic and laptop with wireless connection and when i try dpkg-reconfigure samba i get (   sed: -e expression #1, char 140: unknown option to `s' ) please help
[12:13] <Emanon> in synaptic
[12:13] <Gnoxter> I also tried wubi but It always tells me that there is no Root-Data-System (dunno the correct english word) selected....
[12:14] <Emanon> hmm Gnoxter might try calling up the oem and asking for an actual restore disk
[12:14] <Emanon> as opposed to the restore partition
[12:14] <umang> Emanon, "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin" gave "sun-java6-plugin is already the newest version."
[12:15] <archboxman> dr3mro: had similar problem touched my graphics card because I was going to install a new one took down my ethernet port go figure...
[12:15] <umang> Emanon, I've tried restarting FF 3 times already.
[12:15] <Emanon> was just gonna ask that good job
[12:15] <umang> Emanon, Anything else I can try?
[12:15] <Emanon> you have scripts allowed in firefox?
[12:16] <Emanon> Edit>Preferences>Content
[12:16] <archboxman> Emanon: we generally us add ons...
[12:16] <Emanon> see if the javascript box is checked
[12:17] <umang> Emanon, JS is enabled.
[12:17] <Emanon> hmm idk then that IS funky
[12:17] <archboxman> Emanon: Sorry
[12:17] <umang> Emanon, I'm being asked to install missing plugins.
[12:18] <umang> Emanon,  Shall I try IcedTea?
[12:18] <Emanon> worst that could happen is it doesnt work and your no worse off i suppose
[12:18] <ZZstart> who know ubuntu china channel
[12:18] <Emanon> try uninstalling java first so they dont interfere with each other (idk if they do)
[12:19] <Emanon> !cn | ZZstart:
[12:19] <stanman246> got ubu 9.10 on my laptop, can i 'use' the laptop a as wifiaccesspoint?
[12:19] <ZZstart> thank ..
[12:19] <Emanon> welcome
[12:19] <Gnoxter> my netzbook does not have a cd tray but i can get into the recovery console via safeboot
[12:19] <umang> Emanon, If they did, then they should have "Replaces" or "Conficts" in the package. So I'm just going to install directly...
[12:20] <Gnoxter> what should it help`?
[12:20] <Emanon> okidoke
[12:20] <dr3mro> help my ubuntu is visible and not accessible on network i use karmic and evey time i share a file over network windows pc prompted with user and password
[12:20] <Sh3r1ff> stanman246: yep
[12:20] <tassiebear> hi room
[12:20] <BadElvis> hello can someone read me?
[12:21] <Gnoxter> tried karmic, the lts version and kubuntu, xubuntu and whatever.
[12:21] <Emanon> might have them send you a usb cd drive too Gnoxter hehe
[12:21] <tassiebear> i just got a Lenovo t410...but no luck with wireless.  Any ideas?
[12:21] <Emanon> might try UNR but thats not relevant to your problem just a suggestion Gnoxter
[12:21] <umang> Emanon, 33.6MB? OK. I'll have to wait for my early morning free internet usage for that... Anyway, I'll look for bugs filed against the sun plugin to see if I can get anywhere. Thanks for your help, anyway! :)
[12:21] <Emanon> it was MADE for netbooks after all
[12:21] <Emanon> hope it gets settled umang
[12:22] <Gnoxter> what is unr?
[12:22] <umang> Emanon, Thanks. I'll let you know
[12:22] <Gnoxter> the netbookremix?
[12:22] <Emanon> Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[12:22] <Emanon> !unr
[12:22] <Gnoxter> I tried but didnt work
[12:22] <tassiebear> anyone having success with the new Thinkpads?
[12:22] <Emanon> hmm
[12:22] <REAL1> hello there...
[12:22] <REAL1> got some problem
[12:22] <REAL1> real1@avocado:~$ sudo apt-get update
[12:22] <REAL1> E: Type 'W��K' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/karmic-partner.list
[12:22] <REAL1> any idea?
[12:22] <FloodBot2> REAL1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:22] <Emanon> if your brave might scrap win7 outright but that would have to be your choice
[12:23] <Sh3r1ff> REAL1: you screwed up your sources.list
[12:23] <tassiebear> hello
[12:23] <REAL1> i try to generate a new one. it dosnt change anything
[12:23] <REAL1> .
[12:23] <Gnoxter> unr showed the partitions in the menu but not in the installer and also not in gparted
[12:23] <Sh3r1ff> REAL1:
[12:23] <REAL1> its just say the same error over and over.
[12:23] <umang> Emanon, OK. I guess I know what might be going wrong. I've got FF from ubuntuzilla. I'll see if there is anything I can do, otherwise I'll try from the default FF>
[12:23] <Sh3r1ff> REAL1: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list.d/karmic-partner.list
[12:23] <ikonia> REAL1: can you poastebin your sources.list
[12:23] <REAL1> roger that, doing that.
[12:23] <Emanon> ahh ive found the daily builds to be a little unnerving as well hehe
[12:24] <Semiramide> hi ubunpeople
[12:24] <Emanon> hi Semiramide
[12:24] <Semiramide> ciao
[12:24] <BadElvis> hello can someone read me?
[12:24] <REAL1> oh.
[12:24] <REAL1> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/karmic-partner.list is fuc*ed up.
[12:24] <Emanon> what you need BadElvis?
[12:24] <Sh3r1ff> REAL1: voila the reason why it plants ;)
[12:25] <BadElvis> i m only testing my irc thanks
[12:25] <REAL1> well., how can ichange it?
[12:25] <BadElvis> emanon
[12:25] <Emanon> oh ok
[12:25] <REAL1> its not the same as /etc/apt/sources.list?
[12:25] <Emanon> yea I can read you
[12:25] <REAL1> not the same file?
[12:25] <Emanon> no
[12:25] <Emanon> apparently
[12:25] <REAL1> so, what should be there?
[12:25] <Sh3r1ff> REAL1: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list.d/karmic-partner.list
[12:25] <antony> hi i am new to ubuntu i had some audio issues can anybody help me
[12:25] <REAL1> Sh3r1ff, then what
[12:26] <Emanon> what you need antony
[12:26] <Gnoxter> I dont want to scrap win7 out cause I need it for work. any other idea
[12:26] <Gnoxter> ?
[12:26] <Sh3r1ff> REAL1: put correct info in it ;)
[12:26] <REAL1> what info.
[12:26] <REAL1> the same as the soucres.list file?
[12:26] <Sh3r1ff> REAL1: the sources you want to use
[12:26] <antony> my headphone has distortion while using softphones like xlite
[12:26] <REAL1> Sh3r1ff, what the, in the 9.10, sources.list dosnt count any more?
[12:27] <Emanon> might try shrinking the win7 partition from inside as much as possible to front of drive then ubuntu to back of drive and expand once installed Gnoxter
[12:27] <Sh3r1ff> REAL1: sure it does, but in sources.d you can place other files contain different sources
[12:27] <hexdump_> does anybody know anything about using dyndns?
[12:27] <Emanon> on a side not ive found Ubuntu-Tweak to be very useful http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[12:28] <Gnoxter> formating is dofficult from win7 starter-. I'll try that
[12:28] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: http://www.dyndns.org
[12:29] <hexdump_> Sh3r1ff:  I tried going there I couldn't figure it out.  I setup everything right I thought.
[12:29] <hexdump_> that's cool I just thought I'd ask.
[12:30] <REAL1> Sh3r1ff, tnx a LOT.
[12:30] <silidan> Hi id like to setup an electronic shop using ubuntu, i have no experience with such things so id like to ask if you can point me into the right direction to get started (are there any easy to get started open source solutions, what would you recommend to read about, etc...)
[12:30] <REAL1> you have now saved my sources! :D
[12:30] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: what did you set up?
[12:30] <jastor> silidan: apache2, php5-(and stuff), mysql
[12:31] <hexdump_> sh3r1ff:  I tried to setup a domain name for my IRC server, SMTP, web server and ftp and it just doesn't work.
[12:31] <umang> Emanon, lp:509727 had the workaround. It works now.
[12:31] <hexdump_> I don't want to run it in windows
[12:31] <jastor> silidan: when thoose are installed and set up... search for free php shopping cart on google
[12:31] <Emanon> cool
[12:31] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: you created an account? you have updated your account with the correct ip?
[12:32] <Emanon> a personal finance program would not go amiss either silidan
[12:32] <Emanon> maybe homebank
[12:32] <hexdump_> sh3r1ff:  sure did and I'm running the ddclient on my linux box
[12:32] <Sh3r1ff> silidan: but be carefull with code you find on the internet
[12:32] <jastor> i assumed that paypal or similiar was going to be used ;)
[12:33] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: and what is the eaxct problem?
[12:33] <hexdump_> sh3r1ff:  the ip is not resolving to a domain name
[12:33] <Semiramide> sorry, is possible in 1 LAN have 2 DNS 1 for every computer?
[12:33] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: you mean the domain name is not resolving to an ip?
[12:33] <jastor> if hes going to charge creditcardshimself :P ... then ssl .. and a lot of securitystuyff from visa/mastercard their 3d secure stuff ;)
[12:33] <hexdump_> sure sorry
[12:34] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: what's the domain name?
[12:34] <Semiramide> o they works well
[12:34] <Semiramide> OpenDNS and Telecom IT
[12:34] <neil_d> when useing a LiveCD where are the changes stored?
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> neil_d:  to ram...
[12:34] <silidan> Jastor, Emon, thanks will read up about that...
[12:34] <SirLinux> Morning :-)
[12:35] <wejick> hey i want to remaster ubuntu livecd. need your guide
[12:35] <wejick> SirLinux, night!
[12:35] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: is the ip correct?
[12:35] <neil_d> Dr_Willis: yeh.. I know to ram... but is it a ram disk?
[12:36] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: what's the correct ip?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> neil_d:  basically.
[12:37] <neil_d> Dr_Willis: can I access that data?  or is it hidden somehow.
[12:37] <wejick> hey i want to remaster ubuntu livecd. need your guide. what i have to do?
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> neil_d:  no idea. never wanted to or tried.
[12:38] <Emanon> wejick: might consider the Ubuntu Customization Kit package (UCK)
[12:38] <Cube``> how can i set my color profiles in ubuntu? i have an eee-pc (= no on-monitor keys to adjust monitor settings), and colors look totally different than on my desktop
[12:38] <neil_d> wejick: I am using http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-customize-your-ubuntu-live-cd
[12:38] <wejick> Emanon, i'll check it
[12:38] <hexdump_> sh3r1f:  that isn't my ip
[12:39] <Emanon> http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[12:39] <wejick> neil_d, i'll check it too
[12:39] <Emanon> documentation link on left side of that
[12:39] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: can you give me the correct one?
[12:39] <jose__> ola
[12:39] <wejick> Emanon, how about reconstructor?
[12:40] <Emanon> i hear good things but i've never used it so can't comment
[12:40] <underdev_> hi!  i'm running 9.10, and in the process of removing a piece of software, my printer configuration got removed from the System->Administration menu?  Any idea how to get it back?
[12:41] <underdev_> i would REALLY appreciate the help!
[12:41] <Sh3r1ff> underdev_: readd the printer like you did the first time? ;)
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> underdev_:  try running    system-config-printer     from a terminal - see if that works?
[12:41] <hexdump_> sh3r1ff:  did anything show up at all when I gave you the ip?
[12:42] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: never got the ip
[12:42] <neil_d> when using a LiveCD is there any way to access what has been changed... there is a tmpfs filesystem on /cow    but there is no such directory.
[12:43] <underdev_> thanks- it prompted me to install system-config-printer-gnome, and that brought it back
[12:43] <underdev_> THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
[12:43] <Cube``> anybody?
[12:43] <Sh3r1ff> neil_d: what you mean by changes?
[12:43] <silidan> question, can a once installed Ubuntu on a PC run on every other PC with the same CPU architecture but different hardware configurations ?
[12:43] <underdev_> really thought i might be hosed!!!
[12:44] <jastor> silidan: sometimes
[12:44] <wejick> silidan, i think it will run
[12:44] <jastor> silidan: but expect that theres a proabable chance of some errors somewhere ;)
[12:44] <Sh3r1ff> silidan: possible not all hardware will work
[12:44] <iceroot> silidan: yes but maybe you have to install additional drivers
[12:44] <Emanon> silidan: often provided you dont remove driver packages
[12:44] <iceroot> silidan: but linux is not like windows with crashing on other hardware
[12:45] <Emanon> yea it will just revert to a generic driver until you get the right ones
[12:45] <jastor> silidan: if its a custom kernel for the other computers specific hardware ;) then id just reinstall
[12:45] <Emanon> proprietary or otherwise
[12:45] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: on the dyndns site, does it show the correct ip?
[12:45] <Emanon> right but if its just a custom package set for one computer it will probably be ok
[12:46] <neil_d> Sh3r1ff: when a file is changed.. the change must be stored somewhere.. do you know where?
[12:46] <silidan> ok thanks, so i might get the machine i like first running as a virtual machine and then just copy paset it to a harddrive?
[12:46] <Emanon> or dd it anyways silidan
[12:46] <Emanon> or dcfldd at that
[12:46] <silidan> dd=?
[12:46] <wejick> silidan, use migration tool from your vm
[12:46] <Sh3r1ff> neil_d: it is stored in ram
[12:46] <Emanon> bit for bit copy from one location to another
[12:47] <Stargaze> FYI => http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4653463/full%20circle%20all
[12:47] <hexdump_> sh3r1ff:  sure does
[12:47] <Emanon> so dcfldd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1 would copy sda1 to sdb1 bit for bit
[12:47] <neil_d> Sh3r1ff: yes.. i know... but where?  in a ram disk somewhere I think..
[12:47] <Emanon> an exact copy
[12:47] <jastor> silidan: i dont know about what the others think :P but to me isntalling to a vm first and then move it to a real computer just seem like alot of uneccessary work and waste of tiem :)
[12:47] <Sh3r1ff> neil_d: ram is not a disk ;)
[12:47] <hexdump_> sh3r1ff:  you don't have to worry about it if you don't feel like it.  did the ip work at least?
[12:48] <Emanon> or dcfldd if=/somefolder/somevirtualdisk of=/dev/somedrive would do the same from a disk image
[12:48] <neil_d> Sh3r1ff: it can be..
[12:48] <wejick> hey all i need your suggestion for wordpress client for gnome/gtk env
[12:48] <nickfu> dian
[12:48] <Emanon> idk jastor i find when reinstalling customers OS its easier to just put their drives in my machine and install them in a virtual machine than to bring their whole computer over to my house and fund space for it
[12:48] <nickfu> w
[12:48] <nickfu> s
[12:48] <nickfu> s
[12:48] <nickfu> s
[12:48] <nickfu> s
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[12:48] <nickfu> sss
[12:48] <FloodBot2> nickfu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:49] <abhi_nav> I want to know why people use mail clients(thunderbird,kmail,outlook etc)? if we go to web and access email then we can access it from anywhere in world. but if we use mail client then all our previous emails are in our pc only. then we cant access them from anywhere? I am confused if i should use mail client or not? so just wanted to know why you use mail client?
[12:49] <Sh3r1ff> neil_d: http://img.alibaba.com/photo/11373115/Memory__Module__DDR__RAM.jpg
[12:49] <Emanon> i use evolution abhi_nav so i dont have to check my email it just tells me when i have a message
[12:49] <jastor> Emanon: there are always exceptions ;) i wasnt talkign generally .. only about this one :)
[12:49] <abhi_nav> Emanon: hmm
[12:50] <hexdump_> abhi_nav:  some people can use SMTP servers to send anonymous e-mails and use social engineering.
[12:50] <wejick> abhi_nav, i use m.gmail.com
[12:50] <Emanon> as well as some nice security functions (digital signatures encryption added spam filtering virus scanning etc)
[12:50] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: if the site is updated with the correct address, but nslookup gives a wrong ip, i would try to contact the support of dyndns
[12:50] <hexdump_> sh3r1ff:  thanks a bunch
[12:50] <neil_d> Sh3r1ff: /dev/shm is a disk that is only in ram hence a ram disk.
[12:50] <Emanon> cause whether or not its harmfull to me its nice to scan things before i email them to people who use windoze
[12:51] <abhi_nav> hexdump_ & wejick ok
[12:51] <Emanon> and further to the dcfldd convo its really nice as a secure file deletion tool hehe
[12:51] <abhi_nav> Emanon :-)
[12:51] <MacVirus> hj
[12:52] <Emanon> just shy of microwaving the drive
[12:52] <JasonXXXX> ok
[12:52] <sam_sam> whats the difference between wget and curl ?
[12:52] <jastor> hexdump_: not to mention that unless you live in a easterneurope country (poland for example. .. that damn spammer .. dont remmeber what his ip is ;) but he deos alot of spamming) the ISPs in any sane country would block that kind of smtp traffic ;)
[12:52] <wejick> hey all i need your suggestion for wordpress client for gnome/gtk env
[12:52] <Emanon> some geeks prefered command structure i assume sam_sam
[12:53] <jastor> wizkoder: wordpress client? any browser should be able to access wordpress
[12:53] <hexdump_> sh3r1ff:  when I run nslookup is it supposed to give me a different ip?
[12:53] <hexdump_> is that ISP info errr?  I'm a big n00b if you can't tell so I don't know much
[12:53] <wizkoder> jastor: Wat?
[12:53] <sam_sam> i can upload with curl , but can one upload with wget ?
[12:53] <maco> wizkoder: tab screwup
[12:53] <Emanon> might try typing wordpress into synaptic wejick there are only a few default options
[12:53] <wejick> jastor, i have limited and low internet connection so i need it
[12:53] <jastor> wizkoder: sorry .. mt
[12:54] <maco> wizkoder: jastor was aiming for wejick
[12:54] <hexdump_> jastor:  yeah I know what ya mean
[12:54] <maco> wejick: tomboy, included by default, has an option to post to a blog
[12:54] <maco> wejick: if you install tomboy-blogposter plugin
[12:54] <hexdump_> jastor:  somebody could just setup a smtp server and allow an outsider to use it tho right?
[12:54] <wejick> maco i dont use mono ;) any sugestion.
[12:54] <Guest24187> i want to make a botable usb to wool my dhcp server then reboot my diskless frontend
[12:55] <sam_sam> O:-)
[12:55] <abhi_nav> thanx all of u!!!
[12:55] <hexdump_> sh3r1f nm I think I got it
[12:55] <maco> wejick: blogtk is in the repo. never tried it. if you dont mind a kde app, bilbo is what i use
[12:55] <hexdump_> I mean I don't have it working but I'll try and figure it out.
[12:55] <jastor> ip-<IP_ADDRESS>.skyware.pl <-- was the polish spammer i was talkign about
[12:55] <wejick> i use gnome-panel blog plugin but it has limited feuture
[12:56] <jastor> hexdump_: yes there are anonymous smtp servers like that .. just not as common today as for .. 10 years ago
[12:56] <hexdump_> jastor:  can't even be sure if he is polish anyway
[12:56] <hexdump_> jastor:  well if there is money in it, it will be common
[12:56] <jastor> hexdump_: no idea :) all i know is taht that host is black or graylisted in alot of places ;)
[12:56] <archboxman> If I want to play Bad Company 2 on my pc can I use windows xp??
[12:56] <wejick> maco, bilbo? is it support tagging?
[12:56] <maco> wejick: yes
[12:57] <fabio333> plymouth & kms on ati: possible?
[12:57] <hexdump_> jastor:  I'm amazed at the amount of unsecured wireless networks around
[12:57] <jastor> hexdump_: i dont doubt taht for a second
[12:57] <sam_sam> how do i ask ubottu to tell about some command to someone  ?
[12:57] <Emanon> archboxman: if it runs on windowsxp i assume
[12:57] <Emanon>  ! the command | the person
[12:57] <jastor> hexdump_: but hopefully, your mail provider use a fairly reasonable graylist
[12:57] <abhi_nav> !hi | sam_sam
[12:57] <indus> archboxman, yes why wouldnt it run on xp
[12:57] <abhi_nav> !hi > sam_sam
[12:57] <wejick> maco, ah i'll need huge kdelib
[12:57] <sam_sam> !wget | sam_sam
[12:57] <hexdump_> yeah, well I gtg all and try to figure this crap out
[12:58] <Guest24187> i want to make a bootable usb to wol my dhcp server then reboot my diskless frontend any o?s suggestions
[12:58] <jastor> hexdump_: have fun
[12:58] <abhi_nav> sam_sam: haa haa haa
[12:58] <Sh3r1ff> neil_d: /dev/shm is not a disk ;)
[12:58] <sam_sam> it doesnt know about wget :(
[12:58] <hexdump_> jastor:  see ya sh3r1ff:  see ya thanks again
[12:58] <indus> archboxman, its off topic but ,...... if you have vista or 7 it will be in directx 10 or it will fall back to direct x 9
[12:58] <maco> wejick: what i used to do was just type my html in a text file then paste it into wordpress when i got online
[12:58] <archboxman> indus: getting a lot of flack about dx 9, 10 and 11 is there that big of difference??
[12:58] <Sh3r1ff> neil_d: booting from a live cd doesn't touch your disks
[12:58] <abhi_nav> sam_sam: you can do this also: /msg ubottu <command>
[12:58] <hexdump_> Sh3r1ff: sorry to bother you again, but did that ip end up working when you tried to connect to it?
[12:58] <indus> nope
[12:58] <indus> its marketing bulls*it
[12:58] <Sh3r1ff> hexdump_: didn't try to connect to it
[12:59] <sam_sam> thanks abh_nav
[12:59] <maco> indus: language
[12:59] <abhi_nav> sam_sam: hmm
[12:59] <hexdump_> oh okie np
[12:59] <hexdump_> I'll talk to ya's later
[12:59] <indus> ah ok maco sorry
[12:59] <Emanon> indus: is right tho maco
[12:59] <Emanon> thats the only word for it
[12:59] <archboxman> indus: that is what I wanted to here.. figured you had a head on shoulders ... thanks... :)
[12:59] <wejick> maco, if you have 33 k bps Internet connection you will know what i mean.
[12:59] <jastor> Sh3r1ff: trying to get others to connect to you? sure you got an external ip?
[12:59] <maco> Emanon: "poo"?
[12:59] <neil_d> Sh3r1ff: A disk is a block device.. If a chunk of RAM is a block device.. doesn't that mean its a disk (from a certain view point).
[12:59] <maco> wejick: eek!
[12:59] <indus> i just received my bc 2 copy today !!!!!! archboxman
[13:00] <indus> archboxman, will go home now and install
[13:00] <wejick> maco, o not 33 kbps but 3-33kbps
[13:00] <Emanon> doesnt accurately portray the level of loserness inherent in that program
[13:00] <peppo> anyone know how what to trace these Epiphany JS errors to: http://pastebin.com/DXmXE9ji ? <- a large portion of the web is broken because of this 2.29.92
[13:00] <archboxman> indus: dont rub it in what other computer games you play???
[13:00] <indus> off topic