[07:21] <pippeli_> www.redtube.com/213www.redtube.com/213www.redtube.com/213www.redtube.com/213www.redtube.com/213www.redtube.com/213www.redtube.com/213www.redtube.com/213www.redtube.com/213
[07:21] <FloodBot1> pippeli_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:21] <RP64> wow anyways,
[07:21] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  I didn't need to hold down shift, holding down shift just kept it at the very first sort of non-OS dos type thing when my computer first starts, and basically all I had to do was press E at my grub screen which normally loaded without having to hold down shift
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> RP64: ok then choose the recovery mode from the same screen
[07:23] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  oh OK hold on im writing you're and fitchs ideas down
[07:24] <fritsch> RP64: the basic problem you have, i think is, that nouveau does not correctly support your graphics card. So it hangs when you login. ActionParsnip let you install all updates in order to fix this. but it didnt.
[07:25] <RP64> Oh, I see
[07:25] <fritsch> RP64: so now the way to go is. start the rescue session and install another driver. if you can boot with the parameter ActionParsnip gave you, then you can just login in normal mode
[07:25] <fritsch> RP64: and install hardware drivers by System -> Advanced -> Hardware drivers
[07:25] <fritsch> RP64: this should fix it
[07:26] <RP64> thanks im just writing it all down lol u guys have pro memories
[07:26] <fritsch> RP64: writing down - like with a pen?
[07:26] <RP64> yea lol
[07:27] <RP64> oooo no technology oh no! right , ? lol
[07:27] <fritsch> RP64: could you boot before with the "parameter" ActionParsnip mentioned?
[07:27] <AsdDsa> Do you know any trial vps service?
[07:27] <RP64> well hold on im just writing your idea first then ill re-read all the stuff he said
[07:27] <RP64> but wait what do you mean
[07:27] <RP64> you mean the nouveaua.blacklist=1?
[07:27] <RP64> -minus extra a
[07:28] <fritsch> RP64: jep
[07:28] <fritsch> RP64: did this work?
[07:28] <RP64> oh no it didnt work it just went to black screen
[07:28] <fritsch> RP64: start rescue session
[07:28] <fritsch> RP64: choose drop to a shell
[07:29] <RP64> oh , OK and then?
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> RP64: choose rescue session then select safe mode vga
[07:29] <fritsch> RP64: enter the commands: sudo jockey-text -a
[07:29] <RP64> Agh! 2 conflicting instructions lol
[07:30] <fritsch> RP64: if this does not do anything, enter: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> RP64: its a little easier to move the system so you can get a wired link and you can easily update via a wired link
[07:30] <fritsch> RP64: and after this: sudo reboot
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> fritsch: its a wireless link which hasn't been established yet
[07:30] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: get a cable - it is not easy to mess with iwconfig and stuff
[07:31] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: ups :-)
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> fritsch: ;)
[07:31] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: i think iwconfig wpa supplicant is not being doable with irc instructions
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> RP64: a wired link makes this all easaier
[07:31] <RP64> lol yea wouldnt i know it but im using landlords connection
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> fritsch: i've not done it. I've always used wicd for my cli systems
[07:31] <uman> hi, I have a dual-monitor setup. I'd like to be able to watch a fullscreen Flash video in one monitor and interact with windows in another monitor. But when I attempt to click on windows in my other monitor, the video exits fullscreen. Is there a way I can accomplish this?
[07:31] <fritsch> RP64: we must get your system normally bootet
[07:32] <fritsch> RP64: you have an nvidia card, right?
[07:32] <RP64> haha yea thx guys , OK so im writing down all 3 Ideas u presented
[07:32] <RP64> ill try 1 after another
[07:32] <RP64> yea nvidia geforce
[07:32] <tomodachi> uman: i have the same request, but i believe this is a "flash" feature, hard to do anything about
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> RP64: you could boot to the liveCD and chroot to the installed OS... do you get web access in the live CD environment?
[07:32] <fritsch> RP64: nope wait
[07:32] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  im on liveCD right now
[07:32] <uman> tomodachi: Are you certain about this?
[07:32] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  what do you mean chroot to the installed OS
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> RP64: awesome, ok if you run:  sudo fdisk -l   what is the name of the disk, something like /dev/sda is common
[07:33] <tomodachi> uman:  I have one idea though. Dont know if its worth the effort. If you configure to separate X servers it would probably work. But that setup will mean you cant drag windows between your screens
[07:33] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: lets try something other first more easy
[07:33] <fritsch> RP64: go again to your grub manager at boot
[07:33] <fritsch> RP64: press e in the line where quiet and splash is written
[07:34] <fritsch> RP64: put there nomodeset behind
[07:34] <fritsch> RP64: and boot
[07:34] <fritsch> RP64: i think it should not freeze then
[07:34] <uman> tomodachi: ah, makes sense. Not worth the effort though :)
[07:34] <tomodachi> uman: yeah :) its bothersome has h*ll to configure separate x servers in your xorg. But pretty sexy to have independent desktop switching etc.
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> RP64: may work, the nouveau driver will still load, worth a shot though
[07:35] <RP64> hold on im way behind you guys by 1000 years im just writing down the second idea now
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> fritsch: chroot is easy, 4 commands
[07:35] <fritsch> RP64: nope wait - stop writing
[07:35] <RP64> what, oh ok
[07:35] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: if you know what are you doing, yes
[07:35] <toek> Good morning! I have ubuntu 9.10 and would like to upgrade to 10.04 its a live server with apache running. Is there any reason to why i should not do the upgrade?
[07:36] <fritsch> RP64: it is more important that you understand hwat you are doing
[07:36] <RP64> Oh you're saying I wont haveto go into the shell thing or press E on the grub since I can do it from within the liveCD
[07:36] <fritsch> RP64: so keep all the methods you are writing now
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> toek: you should, karmic support is dead
[07:36] <fritsch> RP64: go to the shell thing be pressing e
[07:36] <uman> tomodachi: Right, but I'm not primarily interested in Ubuntu for the sake of configuring Ubuntu
[07:36] <fritsch> RP64: edit the line with quiet and splash in it
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> RP64: use the nomodeset bootoption like in that guide ubottu gave
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset
[07:36] <uman> tomodachi: so if it's slightly shittier to use but I save a few hours, it's worth it
[07:36] <fritsch> RP64: and place nomodeset behind these params
[07:37] <fritsch> RP64: "nomodeset" withouth the ""
[07:37] <fritsch> RP64: then boot
[07:37] <RP64> hold on im so mind blown im backtracking a bit to the beginning of when u said it was good im on liveCD...
[07:37] <dean> Hi all is anyone in here familiar with k9copy?
[07:37] <RP64> and then wait fritsch are u giving different instructions too ?
[07:37] <toek> i have only ssh access should i just sudo do-release-upgrade?
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> RP64: try the nomodeset bootoption, see if it works. if not we can go for the throat and use a chroot
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | toek
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> toek: use the server upgrade method
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> RP64: or did you already try the nomodeset option?
[07:38] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  so you're saying stop backtracking all the stuff written and just do the nomodeset thing to see if it can log me into my ubuntu and let me update the drivers, if that doesn't work come back to here and we'll try other plans?
[07:38] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  no I never tried it lol
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> RP64: try it now, see if its good
[07:38] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  OK I will, thx Ill brb guys thx for your pro help
[07:39] <RP64> OH WAIT!
[07:39] <RP64> one thing is
[07:39] <RP64> if I use the method from that link,
[07:39] <RP64> won't it permanently add the change into the confi files or something
[07:40] <RP64> whereas if I just press E at the grub, and enter it at where it says quiet splash
[07:40] <RP64> thats better? or its both temporary..
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> RP64: no the option is for that one shot
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> RP64: hopefully updates will make things good
[07:41] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  well I am using a GUI program from that link
[07:41] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  is that what you were thinking of as 1 shot?
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> RP64: the nomodeset option you are adding is not persistent in the method you are adding it, you CAN make it persistent butit will only apply to THIS boot. If yo rebot and do not reapply the option, it will boot with the normal options. Ergo 'one shot'
[07:43] <alzania>  hello! I can't write on ntfs partition. what can i do?
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> alzania: that is default in Ubuntu
[07:43] <RP64> ActionParsnip:  OK no probs I was just clarifying you knew I meant I wasn't using methods they had all talked about but rather a recent 2011 post by a mod from japan who posted his own GUI tool
[07:43] <alzania> how can I change it?
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> alzania: conversely, Windows is crippled and cannot write or read ext4 despite the definitions being opensource...
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> alzania: just mount it from nautilus and it should be fully accessible
[07:44] <alzania> i am on kde
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> alzania: dolphin then, same difference
[07:44] <toek> would this be the place to ask about postfix-dovecot?
[07:45]  * ActionParsnip hopes nomodeset sorts it
[07:46] <RP64> haha thanks action i just made that change and im reebooting now ill brb to show u 2 guys
[07:47] <RP64> oh its OK if I deselect "reinstall GRUB" from the options right
[07:47] <RP64> cus GRUB isnt even the problem lol
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> RP64: its a boot option, you set it when you boot. You don't set it then reboot....
[07:47] <RP64> wait,
[07:47] <RP64> no i mean
[07:47] <RP64> im using the GUI tool by the japanese mod
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> RP64: why?
[07:47] <RP64> instead of the methods they talked about in the forum's conversation
[07:47] <RP64> well because its easier and im way tired but i mean i thought it did the exact same thing didnt it ?
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> RP64: you don't need a tool, its a simple boot option change...
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> RP64: press E, type a single word. How is this hard>
[07:48] <RP64> Oh OK soo, forget this tool, reboot into ubuntu press E on the grub, and replace quiet splash with nomodeset?
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> RP64: yes, how is a GUI tool easier than that exactly?
[07:49] <RP64> I thought that was the plan but you guys said to scrap that and I got confused I thought u meant scrap THAT plan, like I siad 3 days and 3 hours of sleep lol
[07:49] <RP64> its not I didnt know that was the plan my bad
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> RP64: we have told you that several times now, its that easy
[07:49] <RP64> OK cool im restarting now and ill do that
[07:49] <RP64> brb
[07:50] <Guest66788> Firefox will not load any content. Can ping and join IRC. What is wrong with firefox?
[07:51] <fritsch> Guest66788: System -> Settings -> Proxy
[07:51] <fritsch> Guest66788: all correct?
[07:51] <Guest66788> I'll check.
[07:51] <fritsch> Guest66788: meaning disabled
[07:52] <Guest66788> "Direct Internet Connection"
[07:52] <fritsch> Guest66788: okay, this is strange
[07:52] <Guest66788> Yes.
[07:52] <fritsch> Guest66788: nslookup www.heise.de is working from shell?
[07:52] <icelure> hello~
[07:52] <ikanobori> G'day. I'm having an issue with adobe-flash-plugin. It is installed but the plugin is not installed in my browers. They are still using gnash. Any hints?
[07:52] <Guest66788> I've been puzzled for a bit now.
[07:52] <ikanobori> I've removed and re-added the package.
[07:52] <fritsch> Guest66788: could you try the nslookup command?
[07:53] <fritsch> Guest66788: are you connected with lan?
[07:53] <Guest66788> Yes nslookup www.heise.de is working
[07:53] <fritsch> Guest66788: ping www.heise.de is working, too?
[07:53] <Guest66788> I am connected through Wi-fi, it's Ad-Hoc to an Andorid running on 1x.
[07:53] <Guest66788> ping works also
[07:53] <Guest66788> been pinging google.
[07:53] <Guest66788> joining irc was another test :\
[07:53] <fritsch> Guest66788: try to go to: https://www.google.de
[07:54] <fritsch> Guest66788: see the s
[07:54] <Guest66788> I will check
[07:54] <fritsch> Guest66788: with firefox
[07:54] <ikanobori> It could be that your provider is trying to block tethering?
[07:54] <fritsch> ikanobori: exactly :-)
[07:54] <Guest66788> No content still...
[07:54] <Guest66788> Hmm...
[07:54] <fritsch> Guest66788: in germany o2 does this
[07:54] <Guest66788> I hope my provider didn't...
[07:54] <Guest66788> MetroPCS
[07:54] <icelure> 试试中文？
[07:55] <fritsch> Guest66788: you can connect, etc. working fine, but no content from web
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest66788: what is the output of:  cat /etc/resolv.conf
[07:55] <Guest66788> Exactly..
[07:55] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: resolving is working
[07:55] <paulus68> !cn|icelure
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> fritsch: cool
[07:55] <icelure> yeah~
[07:55] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: also ping
[07:55] <Guest66788> # Generated by NetworkManager
[07:55] <Guest66788> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:55] <Guest66788> Ping works, ms is around 300
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> fritsch: ah, that knocks my routing issue on the head
[07:55] <ikanobori> Yes but resolving is working anyway.
[07:55] <icelure> I just tried if I can type chinese
[07:56] <fritsch> Guest66788: do you have access to an ssh server?
[07:56] <icelure> It's my first time to use this
[07:56] <fritsch> Guest66788: try ssh -D 7070 user@sshHost
[07:56] <ikanobori> Guest66788: Try `telnet google.com 80`
[07:56] <Guest66788> It dies at waiting for...
[07:56] <fritsch> Guest66788: and set in settings->proxy a socks with localhost 7070
[07:56] <ikanobori> Do you get a connection or not?
[07:56] <Guest66788> No ssh server :\
[07:56] <fritsch> Guest66788: i think this is a  tethering problem then
[07:57] <Guest66788> Connected to google.com.
[07:57] <Guest66788> Escape character is '^]'.
[07:57] <fritsch> Guest66788: this sounds good
[07:57] <Guest66788> Hmm..
[07:57] <fritsch> Guest66788: sudo apt-get update
[07:57] <fritsch> Guest66788: does this work? :-)
[07:57] <Guest66788> I'll check..
[07:58] <Guest66788> Oh yeah!
[07:58] <fritsch> Guest66788: hehe
[07:58] <fritsch> Guest66788: close and reopen firefox
[07:58] <Guest66788> Apt-get is working good :p
[07:58] <Guest66788> I have :\
[07:58] <fritsch> Guest66788: try: sudo apt-get install chromium
[07:58] <Guest66788> I believe the issue is with ff..
[07:58] <fritsch> Guest66788: it could be that they blog "known desktop browsers"
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> fritsch: thats a game ;)  chromium-browser  is the browser
[07:58] <fritsch> ActionParsnip: thx :-)
[07:59] <icelure> sudo rm -rf /  :p
[07:59] <fritsch> Guest66788: chromium-browser
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> !danger
[07:59] <fritsch> hehe, did not know this
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> icelure: don't bother next time
[07:59] <fritsch> came during the last five years
[07:59] <Guest66788> hmm
[07:59] <Guest66788> don't have the repo...
[07:59] <fritsch> Guest66788: it is in main
[07:59] <fritsch> Guest66788: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[08:00] <Guest66788> oh wait
[08:00] <Guest66788> didnt see that part :p
[08:00] <fritsch> Guest66788: universe, but should be there
[08:00] <Guest66788> Annnd away I goo..
[08:00] <Guest66788> Twenty-five minutes...
[08:00] <Guest66788> woo!
[08:00] <fritsch> Guest66788: mmh, this needs to long
[08:00] <Guest66788> It was working fine too..
[08:00] <fritsch> Guest66788: can you install it over another connection?
[08:01] <Guest66788> For the last 3 months..
[08:01] <fritsch> Guest66788: so this could be firefox settings
[08:01] <Guest66788> Unfortunately not.... I am in the boones :\
[08:01] <Guest66788> I assumed
[08:01] <fritsch> Guest66788: you could backup your firefox settings and wipe them
[08:01] <fritsch> Guest66788: just for testing
[08:01] <Guest66788> I have cleared all cookies and settings..
[08:01] <Guest66788> default
[08:01] <fritsch> Guest66788: this is really strange
[08:01] <Guest66788> already have done that much, I hope chromium works :\
[08:02] <Guest66788> Yeah
[08:02] <Guest66788> It's my luck, all the weird stuff happens to me.
[08:02] <fritsch> okay, have fun - i have to  got for work for some hours
[08:02] <fritsch> you can pm me, if it is working - i am very interested on the cause though
[08:02] <paulus68> fritsch: we all do
[08:02] <paulus68> fritsch: however I am at work here lol
[08:02] <fritsch> paulus68: yep, just leave my terminal i meant
[08:03] <RP64_> hey im back
[08:03] <RP64_> it didn't work to my surprise
[08:03] <RP64_> still black screen! ugh
[08:04] <RP64_> then I tried the method of going in to the shell with networking, and doing sudo apt-get install nvidia-current and it couldnt connect because of it being wireless
[08:04] <RP64_> so... is there another way? l ol
[08:04] <conntrack-> -_O
[08:04] <ikanobori> ActionParsnip: You can't do that anymore anyways.
[08:04] <ikanobori> ActionParsnip: You need to pass --no-preserve-root
[08:04] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  hey bro back
[08:05] <RP64_> fritsch are you here too
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: word
[08:06] <RP64_> lol
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> ikanobori: do what?
[08:07] <RP64_> ActionParsnip: it didn't work to my surprise, still black screen! ugh , then I tried the method of going in to the shell with networking, and doing sudo apt-get install nvidia-current and it couldnt connect because of it being wireless ,
[08:07] <ikanobori> ActionParsnip: rm -rf /
[08:07] <RP64_> 	so... is there another way? l ol
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> ikanobori: the rm thing, it's still not worth it, as well as being dumb, it achieves noting and helps nobody
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: you in the liveCD?
[08:07] <RP64_> yea
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: ok run:  sudo fdisk -l    what is the disk called, sda is common
[08:07] <RP64_> oh with ubuntu on it
[08:07] <RP64_> it's sda3
[08:08] <RP64_> well
[08:08] <RP64_> it used to be but i deleted it hold on ill recheck that
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: which partition name has ubuntu on it, the boot partition?
[08:08] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  OK it's sda5
[08:08] <RP64_> device boot is sda 1
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: ok cool
[08:09] <RP64_> sda5 is ubuntu though
[08:09] <RP64_> sda6 swap
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: run in the live environment:   sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/
[08:09] <RP64_> OK done
[08:09] <RP64_> no response
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: good, let me know if you get any errors
[08:10] <RP64_> errors when?
[08:10] <Guest66788> 35% [2 chromium-browser 6,293 kB/16.5 MB 38%]               9,972 B/s 20min 10s    Woo! Connection spike!
[08:10] <RP64_> oh it didnt do anything at all, it just went to another line, ignoring i input that
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: sudo mount ‐‐bind /dev /mnt/dev
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: any error?
[08:11] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  hmm doesn't seem to be any errors, it's just listing sort of explanations about mounting
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: are you copying the text and pasting to the terminal?
[08:11] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  yep
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: sudo mount ‐‐bind /dev /mnt/dev
[08:13] <RP64_> same thing
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: we want zero output
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[08:13] <RP64_> it's like "One can change the type of all the mounts in  a mount subtree - BLA BLA BLA BLA etc.
[08:13] <RP64_> then lists mount commands
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: sudo mount ‐‐bind /proc /mnt/proc
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: try that
[08:13] <Sulejman> hi, I have a question. I've been using irssi IRC client lately, set on my friend's computer. Have been connecting to the session using PuTTy. However, I've quit from irssi and cannot get back. when I type /screen -r [screenadress] I shows I've got 2 screens attached. Don't know what to do. Could you help me?
[08:14] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  that doesn't seem to do anything different
[08:14] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  the things that got listed before were so incredibly long and now when i tried that new one proc mntproc , nothing happened as far as I can see no new text came up
[08:15] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  but either way, no errors are reported I don't see the word error anywhere
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: ok if you run:  ls /mnt    do you see : bin  boot  cdrom  dev  etc  home  initrd.img  lib  lost+found  media  mnt  opt  proc  root  run  sbin  selinux  srv  sys  tmp  usr  var  vmlinuz
[08:15] <Sulejman> could anyone help?
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: if there is any output from the commands I gave, it didn't work
[08:16] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  mine differs a little bit, but very similar
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: do you see sys proc and dev ?
[08:17] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  if i type in ls /mnt, it says : bin boot cdrom dev etc home initrd.img lib lib32 lib64 lost+found media mnt opt proc root sbin selinux srv sys tmp usr var vmlinuz
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: looks good
[08:17] <RP64_> hmm
[08:17] <RP64_> ok
[08:17] <Sulejman> could anyone help?
[08:18] <enchilado> Sulejman: I don't really know a lot about screen, but isn't there a way you can specify which session to reattach?
[08:18] <RP64_> Sulejman:  sorry i have no clue about that
[08:18] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  so is there some new plan / idea? lol
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev
[08:19] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  doesn't do anything
[08:19] <Sulejman> enchilado, there is, it shows I've got 2 attached sessions, but I don't know if it is possible/how to get to them
[08:19] <Sulejman> also I don't know how to start a new session
[08:19] <Sulejman> yeah, a know, I'm really a beginner
[08:20] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  is that bad if it doesn't do anything
[08:20] <enchilado> the -r option is for reattaching, isn't it? So to start a new session you just leave it out... I think.
[08:21] <Sulejman> enchilado,  and what can I do with the 'attached' screen?
[08:21] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  u still there
[08:22] <enchilado> Is the session attached on your friend's computer still?
[08:22] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  i gotta sleep pretty soon cus im dying from lack of it
[08:22] <enchilado> AFAIK you need to detach it from there first
[08:22] <Sulejman> enchilado, it seems so
[08:22] <enchilado> with -d
[08:22] <Sulejman> won't it delete the session?
[08:24] <enchilado> Sulejman: uhm, I'm not sure. I didn't think so but I haven't used screen in that way.
[08:24] <enchilado> I only have one computer :S
[08:24] <R1ck> so, I have squeeze-backports in my sources.list, and now everytime I install a new package and it also exists in the backports, it wants to install from there - isnt it supposed to install from the ubuntu sources first and only from backports when I specifically request that with -t ?
[08:24] <toek> upgrade went fine, nothing seem broken thanks for the advice
[08:24] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  hey you still around bud
[08:24] <enchilado> Was there a split earlier?
[08:25] <RP64_> yay good job toek thats a naice
[08:25] <RP64_> :D
[08:27] <Sulejman> oh
[08:27] <Sulejman> somehow I've made it xD
[08:28] <Sulejman> probably will start a new session
[08:28] <Guest66788> Primary DNS @ <IP_ADDRESS> Is correct right?
[08:28] <Sulejman> enchilado, I've found a command to start irssi once again, so I'll start a new session.
[08:29] <Sulejman> enchilado, thanks for your attention
[08:29] <Sulejman> :#
[08:29] <enchilado> Sorry I couldn't really help :S
[08:29] <Sulejman> :) no problem, bye
[08:30] <Guest66788> AAh!
[08:31] <lijian> hi room
[08:31] <RP64_> actionparsnip: hey bud I think I have to sleep im seriously dying
[08:31] <RP64_> lijian: hey you arent by any chance a pro are you
[08:34] <lijian> desktop effects could not be enabled
[08:34] <Guest66788> So it's true then...
[08:34] <lijian> anybody help me with this
[08:34] <Guest66788> Firefox is dead. Because Chromium is working...
[08:34] <Guest66788> Someone shot my firefox! 0.o
[08:36] <tziOm> what is the way to check what would eventually be done with apt-get ?
[08:37] <Wipster> hey all, can anyone give me a hand trying to get my vpn to work properly using the network manager? I can connect but not see any resources on the network
[08:37] <lijian> When  I change the visual effects from none to normal, it promotes "desktop effects could not be enabled", how to fix this? anybody
[08:37] <Atharva> Why did so many people quit at once ?
[08:38] <RP64_> cus were not all in england or wherever you are lol
[08:38] <MrRagga> tziOm: apt-get --help (-s No-act. Perform ordering simulation)
[08:38] <szal> !netsplit | Atharva
[08:38] <Jayne> so who is doing the spamming?
[08:38] <RP64_> the people who are in .. whatever timezone is awake
[08:38] <MrRagga> Wipster: check your syslog file about the vpn connection
 Thanks :)
[08:39] <RP64_> actionparsnip: Hey are you here man? I g2g sleep so just last check
[08:39] <lijian> any clue? HELP!!
[08:41] <lijian> shua ni mei
[08:41] <ozdemir> hi
[08:42] <Wipster> MrRagga: ok it is saying vpn connection complete with a load of details about it, however I still cant ping my office computers. I think I need to setup a route but unsure what to enter...
[08:42] <theadmin> Wipster: Do you need to route all traffic trough your VPN connection, or just some of it?
[08:42] <MrRagga> Wipster: this sounds like a routing issue inly
[08:43] <theadmin> Wipster: If all, then "sudo route add default dev ppp0"
[08:43] <MrRagga> Wipster: set the default gw to your vpn or add static routes to it
[08:43] <Wipster> theadmin: only some, like my ssh's or vnc. web traffic can go out on my home connection
[08:44] <theadmin> Wipster: Oh, hm...
[08:44] <MrRagga> Wipster: so add static routes
[08:44] <toek> Would postfix-dovecot be a good option for a lightweight mail solution?
[08:44] <phlak_user> toek:  define lightweight
[08:45] <toek> Phlak_user: i have VPS server with limited juice.. i need to run a few email accounts rarely used.
[08:45] <phlak_user> toek: there are people who use it as a heavyweight solution too
[08:45] <theadmin> Wipster: Well, then just add the IPs you need to the routing table, like this: "sudo route add <IP_ADDRESS> dev ppp0"
[08:46] <MrRagga> theadmin: the whole subnet is the better approach
[08:46] <Wipster> theadmin: can I add a whole subnet?
[08:46] <MrRagga> Wipster: route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> dev pp0
[08:46] <theadmin> Wipster: I beleive so, you need to use the -net switch as MrRagga specified
[08:47] <szal> MrRagga: did you mean: ppp0?
[08:47] <phlak_user> toek: you could use exim
[08:47] <MrRagga> szal: yes
[08:47] <MrRagga> szal: i always expect a little but of brain on the other site, too ;)
[08:48] <Wipster> MrRagga: ok thanks for that will test out in a sec, would that still work if the VPN is assigning me 10.30.1.x addressed and the internal network is on 10.30.0.x addresss?
[08:48] <phlak_user> !info exim
[08:48] <toek> phlak_user: thanks ill look in to exim
[08:48] <caddoo> YAY FF UPDATE PUSHED
[08:48] <toek> ubottu: oh i guess i wont be then =/
[08:49] <Klojum> Anyone can help me getting rid of a wrongly created subdirectory, which now claims to be 'not empty'?   Seriously? Mozilla... You moving too fast
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> caddoo: seems so
[08:49] <caddoo> yep
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> not going to be installed here :)
[08:49] <MrRagga> Wipster: you must know, which addresses/subnets you would like to connect to. the vpn ip is only used to have a point to point connection from your home pc to the vpn gateway. anything else is just a matter of routing
[08:50] <caddoo> but its number 7 ActionParsnip
[08:50] <caddoo> its gonna have loads of new features compared to 6
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> caddoo: chromium daily build here, its greased lightning
[08:50] <theadmin> caddoo: Not really, Mozilla's just catching up with Chrome and Opera in numbers
[08:50] <caddoo> sorry was being sarcastic
[08:50] <RP64_> does anyone here know if you can download nvidia drivers onto your ubuntu installation through a liveCD?
[08:50] <RP64_> i heard chroot might be that
[08:50] <phlak_user> info exim4 | toek
[08:50] <phlak_user> !info exim4 | toek
[08:50] <theadmin> RP64_: Yeah, that would help
[08:51] <caddoo> ActionParsnip, any major differences to the stable release?
[08:51] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  HEY YOUre back man!
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: get a wired link dude, so much easier
[08:51] <iceroot> RP64_: yes, chroot is the way to go to download and install it on the installed system with a live-cd
[08:51] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  I can't , it's my landlord's connection
[08:51] <toek> phlak_user: nice thanks =)
[08:51] <phlak_user> toek: yw
[08:51]  * conntrack- dances
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> caddoo: extra beta features
[08:52] <RP64_> ActionParsnip: Hey, I can't there's no outlets in my house
[08:52] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  so basically, I have only this choice of wireless, is it still possible? can you do it through LiveCD onto the ubuntu installation?
[08:52] <conntrack-> Can anyone recommend a good book for iptables?
[08:52] <Klojum> theadmin: thanx, it did the trick. Trying to copy some files from the WindowsXP partition, as root, because otherwise the LAMPP packages has no access...
[08:53] <iceroot> conntrack-: man iptables
[08:53] <iceroot> conntrack-: #iptables
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: you can install the nvidia driver in the live cd, mount the internal partition and copy the deb files to the internal partition, then boot to root recovery mode and install the debs there
[08:53] <conntrack-> I guess I don't need one then
[08:53] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  that'd work? Uhh how do I do that can it be done in like 20 minutes
[08:53] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Too complicated, just chroot
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: tried and didn't work for some reason :(
[08:54] <RP64_> ActionParsnip: do you think we just got the specifications for chroot wrong somehow?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: use the additional drivers app and install the driver in the live environment.
[08:54] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Weird
[08:54] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  on the liveCD rihgt now ?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: very
[08:54] <toumbo> Anyone knows if I can manage metadata from totem player?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: yes
[08:54] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  oh if it's very weird do you think my installation is like defective or something lol
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: doubt it but copying the files should be ok
[08:55] <RP64_> oh just so you know, I installed the nvidia drivers onto the live environment before, and it completely broke the live environment and i had to reinstall ubuntu like the black screen thing happened everytime I went onto the LiveCD as well
[08:56] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  does that change anything?
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: we just want the files, they will be in /var/cache/apt/archives    you can then run:  gksudo nautilus    select the internal partition from the left panel to mount it and copy the files over
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: only in the live CD, copying the files is what we need :)
[08:57] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  how long will it take cus im almost dead from no sleep, will it take like 20 minutes or so?
[08:57] <theadmin> RP64_: It depends on your connection speed and skill level.
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: about that long, yes
[08:57] <RP64_> lol admin ok ill rush it
[08:58] <theadmin> RP64_: Maybe you should sleep first, you could do weird stuff without being able to think properly.
[08:58] <theadmin> RP64_: Just saying.
[08:58] <RP64_> ive already been at this for 4 hours with 3 hours of sleep in 3 days so
[08:58] <RP64_> i wanna get it done once and for all
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: i'd get some sleep, it'll be easier
[08:58] <mamooth> Hey there again
[08:59] <RP64_> OK sure lol.. so what timezone you in like eastcoast north america cus im westcoast so its 2 AM here and you ? when will you be on next so I can ask for advice
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: GMT here
[08:59] <RP64_> ;D
[08:59] <RP64_> oh so is it like 4 AM there?
[08:59] <mamooth> I'm running 11.10 beta2, and I really have a hard time with blender shortcuts. The WM seems to preempt on blender, so it catches hotkeys before blender ...
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: 10am
[08:59] <theadmin> RP64_: GMT+4 here (Moscow time), if you were talking to me.
[08:59] <bazhang> mamooth, #ubuntu+1 for that
[09:00] <mamooth> ok
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> mamooth: ask in #ubuntu+1 for anything oneiric til release
[09:00] <RP64_> wow  i thought you meant general mountain time as in north america
[09:00] <theadmin> RP64_: GMT = Grinwich Mean Time
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: nope, people do live outside USA
[09:00] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  yeah including me lol
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: as theadmin says
[09:00] <Wipster_> MrRagga: still no luck pinging any of the machines there
[09:00]  * phlak_user upgraded to FF7
[09:00] <mamooth> Ok, Im going there
[09:00] <RP64_> ActionParsnip: im in canada
[09:00] <osmosis> my /boot is almost full. How do I remove unused kernels?
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> osmosis: use software centre
[09:01] <RP64_> ActionParsnip:  but anyways so i guess you're in middle of europe OK so its 8 hours difference
[09:01] <osmosis> ActionParsnip, on server
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> osmosis: you can use:  uname -a   to see the current kernel
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> osmosis: you can use:  dpkg -l | grep linux-image-    to see installed kernels
[09:01] <RP64_> ActionParsnip: OK so ill probably be on in like 10 hours would you be there then or how could I reach youbecause you already worked with it this far right? lol
[09:01] <osmosis> ActionParsnip, looks like a ton of them
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> osmosis: leave the metapackage in but remove the unused kernels with version numbers, NOT the running kernels
[09:02] <osmosis> ActionParsnip, isnt there just like a clean command?
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> RP64_: I'll be at work but probably on irc
[09:02] <theadmin> osmosis: Not really
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> osmosis: there is but ive not used it
[09:02] <RP64_> OK cool cya all
[09:02] <theadmin> osmosis: Ubuntu-Tweak had some options to remove old kernels iirc
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: its a server install
[09:03] <osmosis> yah, my boot partition is 90% full
[09:03] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Ah...
[09:03] <phlak_user> osmosis: i just delete all the kernels but the running one and run grub update
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> osmosis: http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/10/remove-old-kernels-in-ubuntu-with-one-command/    i've not used this and i suggest you do it individually so you don't screw up
[09:03] <osmosis> phlak_user, delete meaning apt-get remove ?
[09:04] <phlak_user> nope; just rm
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> osmosis: yes:   sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.x.x..x.x.
[09:04] <phlak_user> but thats just me ;)
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> phlak_user: that won't work, removing the kernel is the advised way
[09:04] <theadmin> phlak_user: APT would try to retreive the files back the next update
[09:05]  * theadmin 's package manager does not keep old kernels
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: how did you wangle that?
[09:05] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Well, not an Ubuntu user :P
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: ahh, makes sense
[09:05] <phlak_user> lol
[09:05] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Still though, I have no clue why they do that
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: to allow rolling back if a kernel is bad
[09:08] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Isn't it the package mantainer's job to verify the kernel is not, as you said, "bad"?
[09:08] <toek> what webmail can you recommend? preferably not squirrelmail =)
[09:09] <Myrtti> toek: roundcube?
[09:09] <toek> Myrtti: thanks
[09:09] <theadmin> toek: http://alternativeto.net/software/squirrelmail/
[09:10] <phlak_user> tork: horde (or whatever its called now)
[09:10] <phlak_user> toek:  its actually imp -> http://www.horde.org/apps/imp/
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: depends on the hardware
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: especially if there is a regression causing hardware not to work, the old kernel can be booted to and a bug logged
[09:11] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: I see. Guess it makes sense, but hey, I have the [testing] repo enabled so I'm not afraid :P
[09:11] <phlak_user> toek:  or is it this -> http://www.horde.org/apps/webmail
[09:15] <toek> phlak_user: sweet
[09:16] <osmosis> how come when I do  history -c   it seems like my history is cleared, but if I logout and log back in..my entire history has returned.
[09:16] <theadmin> osmosis: rm ~/.bash_history
[09:18] <phlak_user> or echo > ~/.bash_history
[09:18] <Pooky5> hello, can someone explain me, why when i can't upgrade firefox even if I already add "ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/firefox-aurora" in repository?
[09:18] <theadmin> Pooky5: Did you do "sudo apt-get update" after that?
[09:19] <Pooky5> theadmin: many times
[09:20] <phlak_user> i am never able to get the FF update widget working. it just keeps saying connecting to update server
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> osmosis: rm ~/.bash_history   is a great way
[09:20] <Pooky5> I also try remove firefox and install again, bat i still get only 7.x version
[09:20] <usr13> phlak_user: Use the package manager
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Pooky5: which version do you want? and which release are you using?
[09:20] <phlak_user> easier to just download it from getfirefox.org
[09:20] <theadmin> Pooky5: I beleive the package would be called "aurora", not"firefox"...
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> !info aurora
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> ha
[09:21] <theadmin> Nope, probably not
[09:21] <theadmin> Maybe firefox-aurora?
[09:21] <phlak_user> !info firefox
[09:21] <phlak_user> it says 7.0.1
[09:21] <theadmin> Meh, actually, it *is* firefox...
[09:22] <usr13> If you install firefox manually, you probably need to blacklist it on the package manager.
[09:22] <Pooky5> theadmin: nope, it really name firefox
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> Pooky5: which version do you want? and which release are you using?
[09:22] <phlak_user> usr13: i just removed the package and install it manually each time
[09:22] <Pooky5> ActionParsnip: I want Aurora (which is 8 or 9) and i have 7
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> Pooky5: ok and what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[09:22] <phlak_user> usr13: 'cos 6 was horrible when it first came out
[09:22] <ahhughez> what's a good image/picture/photo browsing application? Just wanna open up a file... hit some button and the next in the dir opens.
[09:23] <Pooky5> ActionParsnip: natty
[09:23] <phlak_user> !info eog | ahhughez
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> ahhughez: shotwell, f-spot
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> Pooky5: http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/07/how-to-install-next-firefox-versions.html
[09:24] <BenNZ> hi , having trouble installing the nvidia 173 driver with the 3.0 kernel , but had trouble with the 2.6 kernel , anyone know of a way to install the nvidia driver with the 3.0 kernel
[09:24] <ahhughez> looks perfect phlak_user
[09:24] <Pooky5> ActionParsnip: i read this and i do this step
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> BenNZ: oneiric is supported in #ubuntu+1
[09:24] <phlak_user> ahhughez: tis the fastest ive seen
[09:24] <theadmin> BenNZ: 3.0 is not supported on Ubuntu.
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> BenNZ: it is in oneiric ;)
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> BenNZ: if you have instaled a 3rd party kernel via the kernel ppa then neither channel will support you
[09:25] <paulus68> is there a way to show a progress bar when moving large files from 1 place to another?
[09:25] <Pooky5> ActionParsnip: bat i still get only 7 version of firefox, i don't have idea why
[09:26] <phlak_user> paulus68: doesnt the file manager show that in "file operations" ?
[09:26] <BenNZ> ActionParsnip: theadmin ok , if you dont know thanks for your time
[09:26] <paulus68> Pooky5: there was an update of firefox this morning
[09:26] <paulus68> phlak_user: I run it in terminal since it's on a server
[09:26] <Pooky5> paulus68: I know, after this update firefox crash on every start, so i want another version
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9310678
[09:27] <phlak_user> paulus68: oh ok rsync has a --progress option that should print out hashes
[09:27] <Wipster> theadmin: MrRagga: could you check this out? I'm still unable to ping a machine on <IP_ADDRESS>, ifconfig says ppp0 has an inet of <IP_ADDRESS> ptp <IP_ADDRESS> and mask of <IP_ADDRESS>, the first is before my vpn connects the second is once its connected, http://pastebin.com/4tmmmLfz
[09:27] <paulus68> Pooky5: ok
[09:27] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: phlak_user: thanks
[09:28] <usr13> scp also shows progress I think.
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> Pooky5: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/firefox-aurora?field.series_filter=natty   shows it has firefox 9
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> Pooky5: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/firefox-aurora; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefox     should do it
[09:29] <MrRagga> Wipster: which ip subnet do you want to  connect to?
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> Wipster: weird mask
[09:30] <Pooky5> ActionParsnip: i really try it, meaby 5 times and it really doesn't work, it's reason why i ask for help, i try nightly and beta and i still stuck on 7 version
[09:30] <Wipster> MrRagga: I'd like to connect to 10.30.0.x as thats what all the office machines are on
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> Pooky5: can you give the output of:  lsb_release -a; apt-cache policy firefox     can you use http://pastebin.com to host the text
[09:31] <MrRagga> Wipster: route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> dev pp0
[09:31] <openbees> how to install git version control ..including GUI
[09:31] <phlak_user> Pooky5: isnt downloading manually an option? you could just download the binary; explode it into say /opt/ (tar jxvf firefox-x-x-x-x) and point the launcher
[09:31] <phlak_user> !info git
[09:31] <MrRagga> Wipster: is it a /24 subnet?
[09:31] <MrRagga> Wipster: if not adapt the netmask
[09:31] <Pooky5> phlak_user: i just did it, it's only solution of this
[09:32] <phlak_user> Pooky5: oh ok :)
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> Pooky5: if you can pastebin the text we can advise
[09:32] <Wipster> MrRagga: well I think it is... but as ppp0 is being assigned a 1.x I'm not sure
[09:33] <Pooky5> ActionParsnip: here http://pastebin.com/vs0mxN6j
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> Pooky5: you haven't added the ppa
[09:33] <phlak_user> Wipster: it doesnt matter at your end (unless you have other machines in local lan in same subnet) since its a ptp connection. its the routing at the other end that matters
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> Pooky5: can you run:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/firefox-aurora     and pastebin the output please
[09:34] <Pooky5> http://pastebin.com/cE4Q6Q0a
[09:34] <Wipster> phlak_user: oh right cheers MrRagga: no dice still cant ping any computers there, does the metric need to be set?
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> Pooky5: unchanged, ok that's weird
[09:35] <phlak_user> Wipster:  when i connect to my VPN server; my route looks like this (and i can ping a <IP_ADDRESS> machine on the other end) -> <IP_ADDRESS>    <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS> UH    0      0        0 ppp0
[09:35] <phlak_user> <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>         U     0      0        0 ppp0
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> Pooky5: good ol web translate
[09:36] <Pooky5> ActionParsnip: ? i don't understand right now
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> Pooky5: the repo was added but was already there so it is unchanged or 'beze změn'
[09:37] <Pooky5> ActionParsnip: yea, it's czech translate :)
[09:38] <Pooky5> ActionParsnip: well now i use "aptitude upgrade" and it works..
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> Pooky5: sweet
[09:38] <Pooky5> ActtionParsnip: I'm very happy :)
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> coolage
[09:39] <jefimenko> ActionParsnip: i took your advice and tried to upgrade. lucid -> maverick was okay, but then maverick -> natty stopped early in the upgrade with this: http://pastebin.com/ru9heinK
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Pooky5: its got an oneiric branch too
[09:42] <Pooky5> when should ubuntu 11.10 be released? I want switch asap
[09:42] <jpds> Pooky5: 13th. #ubuntu+1 for 11.10 chat.
[09:48] <Quontrex> anyone had luck with samba4 in a limited production state?
[09:48] <ikonia> define luck with samba, in what context
[09:49] <Quontrex> works great for me"" but I only have 20 users
[09:49] <Quontrex> in an all linux farm
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> not used samba4 here, only using samba
[09:50] <iceroot> Quontrex: used it as ad
[09:50] <ikonia> Quontrex: deine works - file sharing, ldap intergration, AD intergration, user managment, printing etc
[09:50] <iceroot> Quontrex: works ok but some features are still missing
[09:50] <Quontrex> ad works well using an xp box to do the dirty work
[09:51] <iceroot> Quontrex: but now you dont need windows anymore to use ad
[09:51] <iceroot> Quontrex: which is a great feature and a big step in the open-source-world
[09:51] <Quontrex> well I am kinda forced to have a winderz box anyway soooo
[09:51] <jefimenko> ubuntu-standard sounds like a very important package
[09:51] <jefimenko> is that right?
[09:52] <Quontrex> depends what is important to you jef
[09:52] <jefimenko> i'm just trying to fix an upgrade problem from maverick -> natty
[09:53] <Quontrex> takeoff on m$ commercial "what do you wanna do RIGHT today"
[09:53] <jefimenko> it's breaking on some kind of dependency between libdns and libgeoip
[09:53] <ikonia> Quontrex: do you have an ubuntu discussion issue - or are you here to blindly make stilly comments about Microsoft ?
[09:53] <jefimenko> so i thought i could remove libdns just for the upgrade
[09:54] <Quontrex> no I am here to find anyone else using samba4
[09:54] <chump_> whaaaaazzzzzup?
[09:54] <ikonia> Quontrex: try the #samba channel
[09:54] <iceroot> Quontrex: #samba
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> chump_: zaaaaaa'
[09:54] <mez_> or #samba-dev (and I use samba4 !!)
[09:54] <chump_> alot of ppl around here
[09:54] <toek> shouldnt postfix be standard in 10.04?
[09:54] <jefimenko> removing libdns requires a few more packages to be removed: http://pastebin.com/HwMe6vsR
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> !info postfix
[09:55] <conntrack-> jokers
[09:55] <mez_> toek, It has been for a fair few releases!
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> toek: its optional
[09:55] <mez_> (the standard MTA, not installed by default)
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> its not installed here in Oneiric
[09:56] <toek> i cant find it with ps, is it aptitude install postfix i should be doin?
[09:56] <chump_> with ps?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> toek: if you desire the package, yes (prefix with sudo)
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> chump_: shows running processes
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> chump_: ps | less      ;)
[09:57] <chump_> yea yea i know - just was confused why he is trying to find postfix with ps.
[09:57] <jefimenko> i guess it's a terrible idea to remove ubuntu-standard before an upgrade
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> chump_: not sure myself
[09:57] <fritsch> jefimenko: just a meta package - but yes new dependencies are not upgraded
[09:58] <fritsch> jefimenko: i can imagine worse scenarios :-)
[09:59] <jefimenko> it's just i can't upgrade from maverick to natty without getting this error: http://pastebin.com/NztnKUXF
[09:59] <jefimenko> in maverick it's libdns66
[09:59] <fritsch> jefimenko: did you mess with oneiric stuff?
[09:59] <mez_> jefimenko, what command are you using to upgrade ?
[09:59] <theadmin> jefimenko: You can't really upgrade Ubuntu safely... Face the truth and consider a clean install.
[09:59] <jefimenko> no
[10:00] <fritsch> theadmin: mmh not that right
[10:00] <jefimenko> do-release-upgrade
[10:00] <fritsch> jefimenko: should work fine, did you install any other packages from 3rd party repos?
[10:00] <jefimenko> no
[10:00] <jefimenko> this is a clean box
[10:00] <mez_> theadmin, I've upgraded this machine (safely) from ... feisty ?
[10:00] <jefimenko> it was running clean 10.04 server for a while
[10:01] <jefimenko> all up-to-date
[10:01] <toek> if i only want to run webmail then i only need postfix?
[10:01] <jefimenko> i took it from lucid -> maverick safely
[10:01] <jefimenko> not it won't go from maverick -> natty
[10:01] <mez_> jefimenko, apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade; do-release-upgrade
[10:01] <theadmin> mez_: Wow, you're lucky
[10:01] <mez_> theadmin, No, not really - I just know how to fix things :D
[10:02] <jefimenko> upgrade and dist-upgrade didn't take any action
[10:02] <demirulez> Hello, is there a simple and fast way to verify if the SLI Mode is actually enabled? Thanks
[10:02] <theadmin> mez_: I broke my X when upgrading from Jaunty to Karmic, and probably some worse stuff happened as well, just didn't know much back then and didn't really look further, just reinstalled
[10:02] <fritsch> mez_: this is not the way
[10:02] <llutz> toek: webmail as in just sending mail via website or  access to your mail via webfront?
[10:02] <mez_> fritsch,  ?
[10:02] <fritsch> jefimenko: try to fetch all maverick updates first
[10:02] <fritsch> mez_: these upgrade commands do some special things in order not to run into dependency issues
[10:02] <jefimenko> fritsch: not using apt-get upgrade?
[10:02] <fritsch> jefimenko: not for release upgrades
[10:03] <jefimenko> so what should i run
[10:03] <mez_> jefimenko, do you have any PPAs or similar installed?
[10:03] <fritsch> jefimenko: there is the ubuntu way of doing it with update-manager -d or do_release_upgrade
[10:03] <jefimenko> mez_: no
[10:03] <mez_> fritsch, no - do-release-upgrade is the safe way to upgrade... which is what jefimenko is using.
[10:03] <toek> llutz: access mail wia webfront like roundcube or squirrelmail or so
[10:03] <fritsch> jefimenko: try with maverick sources: apt-get update && apt-get update
[10:03] <demirulez> i have issued sudo nvidia-xconfig --sli=On, rebooted and all seems to work with 280.13 drivers...
[10:03] <fritsch> jefimenko: in order to get maverick up to date
[10:03] <llutz> toek: you'll need a imap/pop3 server 1st for that
[10:03] <fritsch> jefimenko: after that try the do_release_upgrade again
[10:04] <toek> llutz: aight thanks
[10:04] <toek> llutz: thought so...
[10:04] <mez_> jefimenko, changing your sources to maverick and upgrading via aopt-get upgrade MAY break your system.
[10:04] <jefimenko> these are the sources.list: http://pastebin.com/X9g9E83d
[10:04] <theadmin> fritsch: Doesn't do-release-upgrade automatically run apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade first?
[10:05] <jefimenko> i only see lucid stuff commented out from the recent upgrade from lucid -> maverick
[10:05] <jefimenko> nothing else out of the ordinary
[10:05] <mez_> jefimenko, pastebin your sources.list ?
[10:05] <fritsch> theadmin: i do not think so. it first deactives ppas and so on
[10:05] <jefimenko> mez_: i just did
[10:05] <fritsch> theadmin: installs additional needed packages (tar.gz it fetches)
[10:06] <llutz> toek: to send mail, either use postfix or a simple mailer like ssmtp/msmtp
[10:06] <ajah> i`ve set up ad-hoc wireless network with static settings on one of my ubuntu machines and i can successfully join with network-manager on other machine but when i try iwconfig wlan0 essid "network" ifconfig wlan0 <IP_ADDRESS> doesn`t work
[10:06] <demirulez> edit: in the section of X Screen 0 in Nvidia X server settings GUI there are shown 2 GPUs on associated to the monitor, is this correct?
[10:06] <jefimenko> this happened on a second machine btw
[10:06] <jefimenko> same scenario
[10:06] <theadmin> fritsch: I see, well, weird system. Anything that's not a rolling-release is weird to upgrade.
[10:06] <fritsch> theadmin: hehe try debian rolling unstable :-)
[10:06] <phlak_user> ajah: you need to set mode in iwconfig too
[10:06] <ajah> i basically should the same but doesn`t work
[10:07] <phlak_user> ajah: like so ->  iwconfig wlan0 mode Ad-Hoc
[10:07] <theadmin> fritsch: I'm fine with Arch, thanks.
[10:07] <ajah> phlak_user, i`ll try
[10:07] <mez_> jefimenko, do you have bind installed?
[10:08] <demirulez> Hello, is there a simple and fast way to verify if the SLI Mode is actually enabled? Thank for your help
[10:08] <jefimenko> mez_: yes, bind-host. but i don't run a bind server on this
[10:08] <fritsch> demirulez: have a look in nvidia-settings
[10:09] <demirulez> fritsch: i have the control panel opened, where should i check?
[10:09] <mez_> jefimenko, bind-host would count too....
[10:09] <fritsch> demirulez: just click on your graphics car
[10:10] <jefimenko> mez_: is bind causing problems?
[10:10] <fritsch> jefimenko: what about removing libdns69 before?=
[10:10] <demirulez> fritsch: it says: Screen 0 (SLI) on both videocards
[10:10] <ajah> phlak_user, sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "wireless-connection" mode ad-hoc , sudo ifconfig wlan0 <IP_ADDRESS> still no ping with <IP_ADDRESS> any suggestion?
[10:10] <Quontrex> you have a winner
[10:10] <mez_> jefimenko, well, you seem to have libdns69 - which isn't part of maverick...
[10:10] <fritsch> demirulez: you see the SLI?
[10:10] <jefimenko> fritsch: that was my idea before (it's actually libdns66 on maverick)
[10:11] <fritsch> demirulez: or did you set ist for yourself
[10:11] <phlak_user> ajah: what does sudo iwconfig wlan0 say?
[10:11] <jefimenko> fritsch: but it wants to remove some other important-looking packages. let me pastebin it
[10:11] <fritsch> jefimenko: jep
[10:11] <phlak_user> you can pastebinit
[10:11] <jefimenko> http://pastebin.com/d3XFueHY
[10:11] <mez_> jefimenko, apt-get install libdns66
[10:11] <ajah> phlak_user, wlan0     IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:"wireless-connection" and other stuffs
[10:11] <mez_> and see what that gives you
[10:11] <fritsch> mez_: jep good way to go
[10:11] <mez_> (where did you get 69 from?)
[10:12] <ron> is there a way to undelete a file that was removed with rm?
[10:12] <Quontrex> if it gives him two card 0 and sli theyre stacked and working properly
[10:12] <demirulez> fritsch: i have enabled it with nvidia-xconfig --sli=On
[10:12] <fritsch> mez_: from his remove it seems that it depends on ubuntu-standard
[10:12] <ajah> phlak_user, in pastebin all of it?
[10:12] <fritsch> demirulez: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:12] <mez_> jefimenko, no - he's trying to remove 66 there, not 69
[10:12] <fritsch> demirulez: perhaps there is printed something
[10:12] <mez_> jefimenko, apt-get remove libdns69
[10:12] <fritsch> demirulez: but i think it is just working
[10:12] <mez_> not 66 ;)
[10:12] <jefimenko> mez_: trying to install libdns66 didn't do anything
[10:12] <jefimenko> mez_: i got 69 because of the error shown during the upgrade: http://pastebin.com/yw8QivCK
[10:12] <ajah> phlak_user, http://pastebin.com/5A15Nmt9
[10:13] <fritsch> jefimenko: remove the 69 version
[10:13] <jefimenko> mez_: but in maverick, it's libdns66
[10:13] <jefimenko> i'll try 69, but i don't think it's installed
[10:13] <jefimenko> doesn't exist
[10:13] <jefimenko> E: Unable to locate package libdns69
[10:13] <toek> should i go for: postfix configuration: Internet Site or Internet Site with smarthost?
[10:13] <usr13> phlak_user:  What is the actual essid of ajah's wireless router?
[10:13] <fritsch> jefimenko: okay it will come from natty then
[10:13] <toek> or local or what?
[10:13] <mez_> jefimenko, ah ok.
[10:14] <mez_> jefimenko, one sec... seems you have a local copy of a dodgy libdns69
[10:14] <Quontrex> toek you have a static dns on the router?
[10:14] <llutz> toek: do you have own domain, static ip? then you could use internet-site, else better to use a smarthost for sending mails
[10:14] <ajah> usr13, its not a router it`s ad hoc network on other ubuntu machine
[10:14] <toek> i have domain and static ip
[10:14] <toek> it runs a site
[10:14] <toek> joomla site
[10:14] <usr13> ajah: What do you have it's essid set to?
[10:14] <ajah> usr13, $ sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning | grep wireless                    ESSID:"wireless-connection"
[10:14] <demirulez> fritsch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/699626/
[10:14] <mez_> jefimenko, can you apt-get clean && apt-get autoclean then try and run do-release-upgrade
[10:15] <fritsch> demirulez: you see the line
[10:15] <jefimenko> mez_: trying now
[10:15] <Quontrex> just talk to yourself, works for me
[10:15] <fritsch> 14.985?
[10:15] <llutz> toek: internet-site is fine then, you'll send your mails directly to receipients then
[10:15] <phlak_user> ajah: is this the mac address of the other laptop? Cell: 6A:4E:7E:90:FE:01
[10:15] <toek> ok nice thanks
[10:15] <fritsch> jefimenko: [    14.985] (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA SLI enabled.
[10:15] <usr13> ajah: Ok well that should do it.  Do you have appropriate IP address settings for each?
[10:15] <toek> what does the localy option mean?'
[10:15] <Acfay> .org
[10:15] <mez_> jefimenko, you're trying to go from maverick->natty , right?
[10:15] <jefimenko> mez_: yes
[10:15] <llutz> toek: if you need to deliver mails to local receipients
[10:16] <celltech> I know it's possible. And free. But I can't figure it out. How do I use my iphone as a webcam on linux
[10:16] <toek> ok
[10:16] <demirulez> fritsch: yes should be: [    14.985] (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA SLI enabled.
[10:16] <jefimenko> mez_: i just finishing going from lucid -> maverick
[10:16] <fritsch> demirulez: [    14.985] (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA SLI enabled.
[10:16] <llutz> toek: users on your server
[10:16] <Quontrex> trying to contact <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:16] <toek> llutz: that could be done externaly also right?
[10:16] <mez_> jefimenko, that's cool.  Your cleans should hopefully get rid of the weird package.
[10:16] <llutz> toek: yes
[10:16] <Quontrex> 127 is non routable
[10:16] <demirulez> fritsch: yes, thank you very much, and the bad part is that it's not working under Seven lol
[10:16] <ajah> phlak_user, w8 a little bit i should log with ssh and tell you not sure
[10:16] <llutz> toek: good resources for postfix are #postfix here in freenode and the documentation on postfix.org
[10:17] <phlak_user> ajah: ok ifconfig wlan0 on the other machine should tell you
[10:17] <stevecam> how do i reload the sidebar and the toolbar when they start playing up in unity
[10:17] <jefimenko> mez_: unfortunately, i got the same error
[10:17] <jefimenko> mez_: i ran both clean commands
[10:18] <fritsch> jefimenko: remove it and delete the other 5 packages with you
[10:18] <fritsch> jefimenko: do a upgrade and install ubuntu-standard again
[10:18] <Quontrex> sudo apt-cache search libdns
[10:18] <fritsch> Quontrex: no sudo need for search
[10:18] <jefimenko> fritsch: ok, i'll try that
[10:18] <Quontrex> oh right thats find
[10:19] <phlak_user> stevecam: define "playing up"
[10:20] <fritsch> jefimenko: i am shortly afk - just ping me a view times, if there is a problem
[10:20] <Quontrex> undesirable output?
[10:20] <oCean> !who | Quontrex
[10:23] <Grey_Loki> Hi, i'm running ubuntu on a HP touchpad. The Ubuntu chroot app has been updated so you can totally disable HP's on-screen keyboard. What's the best way of going about making Ubuntu as tablet-friendly as possible? i.e, nice big buttons, swipe-to-scroll, a ubuntu-generated on-screen keyboard, etc?
[10:23] <Grey_Loki> I'm presuming that it isn't just as simple as apt-get install ubuntu-tablet :D
[10:23] <jefimenko> fritsch: the upgrade is progressing now. i did see it mention that it will be removing openssh-server... kind of disturbing... but i do have a way to access this remotely without ssh
[10:26] <fritsch> jefimenko: which script did remove it?
[10:26] <fritsch> jefimenko: apt-get remove from the beginning?
[10:27] <stevecam> phlak_user, well the problem im having now is that the sidebar has frozen, but in general i find to be a bit of a problem, the tray area on the toolbar wont always allow me to interact with me and the sidebar will behave rather strange when i am running a seamless desktop with virtualbox
[10:27] <fritsch> jefimenko: normally it should open a rescue server before starting on 8022 or so
[10:27] <mez_> jefimenko, try commenting out security and updates lines from sources.list then running do-release-upgrade
[10:28] <adataa> is there any programming channel on freenode
[10:28] <mez_> adataa, there are lots. Are you looking for any specific type? Any specific language ?
[10:28] <adataa> c#
[10:28] <adataa> i tried c++ also but it wont let me send to channel don't know why
[10:29] <senayar> Grey_Loki, search about utouch on google
[10:29] <mez_> adataa, ##csharp
[10:29] <adataa> thx
[10:29] <ikonia> !register | adataa
[10:29] <phlak_user> stevecam: so this strange behavior is always when you run the seamless desktop using virtualbox?
[10:35] <stevecam> phlak_user, forget i mentioned all that, the system tray is not being interactive weather i am in vb or not
[10:36] <jefimenko> fritsch: it finished, but i think something is wrong
[10:37] <jefimenko> fritsch: "lsb_release -a" shows maverick
[10:37] <mez_> jefimenko, cat /etc/lsb-release
[10:37] <stevecam> phlak_user, what is the process for the sidebar and the toolbar?
[10:37] <stevecam> so i can kill them and start them when they play up
[10:38] <fritsch> jefimenko: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-standard
[10:38] <jefimenko> fritsch: it came back online without internet... i have to look into why before i can install that
[10:39] <fritsch> jefimenko: where did it normally get internet from?
[10:39] <fritsch> jefimenko: libdns is missing :-) this could be a problem
[10:39] <fritsch> jefimenko: do you have your ip and gateway configuration?
[10:39] <fritsch> jefimenko: did it get an ip?
[10:39] <fritsch> jefimenko: ifconfig eth0
[10:40] <jefimenko> fritsch: i mean i can't ping it
[10:40] <jefimenko> fritsch: it has an IP though
[10:40] <fritsch> jefimenko: can it ping out?
[10:41] <jefimenko> fritsch: i'm going to try simplifying the interfaces file though. it is pretty complex with bonding and bridging... maybe something like that broke in natty
[10:41] <fritsch> jefimenko: okay, the steps are install ubuntu-standard again and openssh-server
[10:41] <jefimenko> fritsch: actually, it can ping out
[10:41] <rabbi1> just installed 11.04 on hp mini, problem with resolution, unable to see the complete window of any applications :(
[10:41] <fritsch> jefimenko: yeah, so install some packages
[10:41] <fritsch> jefimenko: ubuntu-standard and openssh-server
[10:42] <fritsch> jefimenko: could be that the net devices have swapped
[10:42] <fritsch> jefimenko: meaning eth0 eth1 have switched?
[10:42] <fritsch> jefimenko: have a look in /etc/udev/rules.d/ xx persistent xx
[10:43] <jefimenko> fritsch: i get this error when i try "apt-get install ubuntu-standard": Package ubuntu-standard is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source.
[10:43] <fritsch> jefimenko: paste your sources.list please
[10:44] <fritsch> jefimenko: i think some entries are just missing
[10:44] <Quontrex> ubuntu-desktop
[10:45] <rabbi1> just installed 11.04 on hp mini, problem with the resolution, unable to see complete window. how to solve :(
[10:45] <TacoDan> Hello, will there be no Gnome option next release? (ubuntu-classic?)
[10:45] <rabbi1> TacoDan: Doesn't matter you can get it anytime :)
[10:46] <Quontrex> rabbi1: is there a restricted driver for that machine?
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> TacoDan: ask details in #ubuntu+1
[10:47] <stevecam> when im virtulizing with vbox, is it possible to make other apps to respect my windows taskbar position when managing windows, for example when i maximize a window in gnome i dont want it to cover up the windows taskbar?
[10:47] <jefimenko> fritsch: i can't copy&paste right now because i'm viewing it through a kvm with no net access... i can't ssh in
[10:47] <jefimenko> fritsch: but i can take a screenshot haha
[10:47] <Quontrex> pen and pencil?
[10:47] <TacoDan> rabbi: how so?
[10:48] <TacoDan> MonkeyDust: Nobody seems awake, but I did.
[10:48] <fritsch> jefimenko: okay go for it
[10:48] <rabbi1> just installed 11.04 on hp mini, problem with the resolution, unable to see complete window. how to solve :(
[10:49] <Quontrex> rabbi1: is there a restricted driver for that machine?
[10:50] <gingerling> hey, anyone know any good small business management software for total beginners!
[10:50] <Quontrex> hate to say it but...quickbooks
[10:51] <gingerling> does it do any stock managmenty stuff?
[10:51] <gingerling> I have seen opentaps etc
[10:51] <gingerling> but you have to like a genious to even install them
[10:51] <gingerling> pluss I think the are "cloud"y. I dont like that. I like things to be firmly on my computer
[10:51] <Quontrex> openbravo is the debbil to install
[10:52] <jefimenko> fritsch: http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/4003/page1s.png and http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3946/page2h.png
[10:52] <fritsch> jefimenko: sudo apt-get update
[10:52] <fritsch> jefimenko: sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:52] <phlak_user> gingerling: have you looked at sql-ledger? -> http://www.sql-ledger.com/
[10:52] <rabbi1> Quontrex: sorry, some problem. did i miss something ?
[10:53] <fritsch> jefimenko: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-standard
[10:53] <gingerling> looks okay
[10:53] <gingerling> not a shiney as the others
[10:53] <gingerling> is it easier to install and use?
[10:53] <jefimenko> fritsch: upgrade result: http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/224/upgraderesult.png
[10:53] <gingerling> and is it all free (as in beer)?
[10:53] <rabbi1> problem with the resolution after installing 11.04 on hp mini, any solution, can't see windows completely
[10:53] <fritsch> jefimenko: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:54] <fritsch> jefimenko: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-standard
[10:54] <jefimenko> fritsch: dist-upgrade looks the same and trying to install ubuntu-standard gives the same result as before
[10:55] <rabbi1> problem with the resolution after installing 11.04 on hp mini, any solution, can't see windows completely. very urgent....please help
[10:55] <gingerling> SQL ledger not in repos :(
[10:56] <jefimenko> fritsch: wait, i'm sorry
[10:56] <jefimenko> dist-upgrade is doing something
[10:56] <japro> hi, so i have two issuse: A: after waking from suspend, my laptop dims the display randomly, which is really annoying. B: some programs don't find their libraries when run with sudo
[10:56] <jefimenko> i missed that one
[10:56] <fritsch> afterwards try installing ubuntu-standard again
[10:57] <gingerling> openbravo says its 100% web based. does that me cloudy?
[10:58] <phlak_user> gingerling: is being on the repos a must-have for you?
[10:58] <gingerling> i have an aversion to comandline
[10:58] <gingerling> S:
[10:58] <gingerling> :S
[10:58] <rabbi1> problem with the resolution after installing 11.04 on hp mini, any solution, can't see windows completely. very urgent....please help
[10:59] <phlak_user> gingerling: oh ok; you better stick to GUI-based stuff
[11:00] <phlak_user> rabbi1: ctl+alt+backspace should reload the display manager
[11:00] <gingerling> general yes I try to. looking at open bravo three video its very nice, but is it simple to use?
[11:01] <rabbi1> screen problem with hp mini, after installing 11.04. how so solve this?
[11:01] <arand_> phlak_user: rabbi1: That shortcut is disabled by default, I think, You can use alt+sysreq+k for a similar effect though..
[11:01] <rabbi1> atl alt backspace not working
[11:02] <phlak_user> gingerling: havent got a clue --> http://wiki.openbravo.com/wiki/Installation/Ubuntu
[11:02] <rabbi1> arand_: it's the application windows not displaying fully
[11:02] <gingerling> thanks :)
[11:02] <phlak_user> rabbi1: did you login to unity or gnome desktop?
[11:02] <rabbi1> sysreq ?
[11:03] <prav> vcvv
[11:03] <rabbi1> phlak_user: gnome
[11:04] <phlak_user> rabbi1: can you logout and try loggin in by selecting unity as your window manager
[11:04] <prav> ktyukdflykjpfd v
[11:04] <phlak_user> rabbi1: the key that says Prt  Sc between Pause and Delete (on my laptop)
[11:05] <rabbi1> phlak_user: even unity has the same prob
[11:05] <ptu> anyone help me install PANGO
[11:06] <salty-horse> hey. I'm looking at the "preferred applications" capplet in natty. the "web browser" drop-down doesn't have a "custom" option. was it removed?
[11:06] <rabbi1> arand_: even that key has no effect
[11:06] <phlak_user> rabbi1: can you describe the exact problem? are you not able to see your complete window?
[11:06] <rabbi1> phlak_user: exactly, unable to see the complete window
[11:07] <rabbi1> phlak_user: display and all is good
[11:07] <phlak_user> rabbi1: if you press alt+mouse and drag up, does it move?
[11:07] <rabbi1> phlak_user: yeah, able to move and see
[11:07] <fritsch> jefimenko: how is it going?
[11:07] <phlak_user> rabbi1: is the screen resolution 1024x600?
[11:08] <rabbi1> phlak_user: 1024x576
[11:09] <phlak_user> rabbi1: ok what model of mini is this?
[11:10] <aatk> rabbi1: are you sure it's not just because you have a small screen? can you upload a screenshot of the problem?
[11:10] <rabbi1> says hp mini 1000 phlak_user
[11:10] <max_> can anyone tell me how to upload log files please?
[11:11] <jrib> max_: upload them where
[11:11] <rabbi1> aatk: not possible to upload, don have net connection to it, give me sec. will try from pendrive
[11:11] <max_> on the net
[11:11] <jrib> !paste | max_
[11:11] <phlak_user> rabbi1: not sure about that model. this page has all the others -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#HP_Mini_1010nr
[11:11] <max_> thank you jrib and buottu
[11:12] <gabrielshahzad> hi. is it possible to block every port besides ports 80 / 8080 with iptables? and if so, how would I do that (don't know my way around iptables)
[11:13] <jrib> !firewall | gabrielshahzad
[11:13] <jrib> gabrielshahzad: using either ufw or iptables, block all ports, then open only those you want
[11:13] <gabrielshahzad> thanks. didn't think about ufw
[11:13] <phlak_user> rabbi1: you could try what is suggested here --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1170167
[11:16] <DysonReturns> greets gents - anyone know an easy way of allowing ping from only a specific address?
[11:17] <Onlyodin> DysonReturns, iptables
[11:17] <jefimenko> fritsch: i think i recovered it
[11:17] <jefimenko> fritsch: hopefully the system didn't get messed up in the process
[11:17] <fritsch> jefimenko: if you have recovered it - it sounds promissing
[11:17] <fritsch> jefimenko: did you get ubuntu-standard installed?
[11:20] <Cube``> hey guys, whats the name of the programm responsible for changing the desktop background? im using xmonad so i cannot access the ubuntu settings like i normally would
[11:22] <jefimenko> fritsch: yes, but it looks like the bonded, bridged interface on vlan isn't working in natty
[11:22] <gabrielshahzad> is it possible to block smb with something like ufw deny smb ?
[11:22] <jefimenko> i'll have to find out why
[11:22] <aatk> Cube``: xsetbg, feh, there are quite a few
[11:22] <fritsch> jefimenko: you used bridge tools to set it up?
[11:23] <jefimenko> fritsch: yea, back in lucid. it's all in my /etc/network/interfaces
[11:23] <Cube``> aatk: ok, and where are the default wallpaper choices stored? in which folder?
[11:23] <fritsch> jefimenko: should work still
[11:23] <jefimenko> fritsch: the non-bridged inteface works
[11:24] <jefimenko> fritsch: the one that is only bonded
[11:24] <fritsch> jefimenko: paste your interfaces, if you can
[11:24] <aatk> Cube``: they're usually in /user/share/backgrounds
[11:26] <aatk> Cube``: /usr/share/backgrounds sorry
[11:26] <Fudge> what is .xsyslog
[11:30] <Fudge> and is jaunty no longer supported
[11:32] <pakete> Hello everyone!
[11:32] <japro> is there anything i can do to keep my laptop from randomly dimming the screen after waking from suspend?
[11:32] <japro> some process to restart or similar?
[11:33] <Cube``> aatk: thanks!
[11:33] <japro> power settings and such don't seem to be configured to dim it ever
[11:33] <pakete> Please help if possible to enable sound in U300 toshiba sattelite. It seems like sound is there working but no actual sound while switchin vlume up and down
[11:33] <pakete> please help!!!
[11:36] <pakete> HELLOO!!!
[11:36] <fritsch> pakete: caps button is near ctl
[11:36] <fritsch> pakete: if this was the question
[11:37] <fritsch> pakete: check with alsamixer -c0 if there is sth. muted
[11:37] <SuperB44> hello
[11:40] <pakete> fritsch, how do i check with alsa mixer? thnx
[11:40] <}[oO]{> issue with volume control on the gnome panel...icon dissappeared, but ps ax shows the applet running, cannot right click to add to panel.
[11:41] <fritsch> pakete: alsamixer -c0 run from a terminal
[11:41] <fritsch> pakete: use the arrow keys
[11:41] <fritsch> pakete: if there are many M this means mute
[11:41] <fritsch> pakete: press < or > to umute then
[11:41] <fritsch> pakete: also check the sliders
[11:42] <omsib> hi hw are u
[11:42] <pakete> fritsch, here what it shows
[11:42] <pakete> │ Card: HDA Intel                                      F1:  Help               │
[11:42] <pakete> │ Chip: LSI ID 1040                                    F2:  System information │
[11:42] <bazhang> omsib, ubuntu support question?
[11:42] <pakete> │ View: F3: Playback  F4: Capture  F5: All             F6:  Select sound card  │
[11:42] <pakete> │ Item:                                                Esc: Exit               │
[11:42] <omsib> hi wats up
[11:42] <FloodBot1> pakete: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:42] <pakete> │                                                                              │
[11:42] <fritsch> pakete: do not paste
[11:43] <omsib> who are yuo
[11:43] <bazhang> !ot | omsib
[11:43] <fritsch> !guidelines | pakete
[11:43] <omsib> ot bazhang
[11:44] <japro> pakete, install alsamixergui... that will be easier to use
[11:44] <fritsch> japro: if installing is easier for him
[11:45] <Hunter275> is facebook chat not working?
[11:45] <japro> fritsch, he has to know how to use the package manager... otherwise how do you get anything done on ubuntu?
[11:46] <Arnold> Hello. How do I upload a .crash file's contents, generated by Apport to Launchpad Bugs?
[11:46] <fritsch> japro: you are right - but my opinion is, that most people just copy and paste commands
[11:46] <fritsch> japro: without knowing what they do
[11:46] <fritsch> japro: but software center should be easily usable these days, you are right
[11:47] <japro> doesn't everyone do that :D
[11:47] <Hunter275> anyone?
[11:47] <auronandace> Hunter275: i think you are in the wrong channel
[11:48] <Hunter275> no the ubuntu chat, does the facebook verification work
[11:48] <jefimenko> fritsch: i got in with this simplified config: http://pastebin.com/x4Y6Muim
[11:48] <jefimenko> i only obfuscated the public IP info
[11:48] <fritsch> jefimenko: so everything is fine again?
[11:48] <jefimenko> this one works...
[11:48] <jefimenko> fritsch: no, i had to disable the bridging
[11:48] <jefimenko> fritsch: let me show you what breaks it
[11:49] <fritsch> jefimenko: is ifenslave-2.6 installed?
[11:49] <}[oO]{> join #gnome
[11:49] <}[oO]{> sorry
[11:49] <omsib> hi who are you
[11:49] <jefimenko> fritsch: yes
[11:50] <omsib> wats up
[11:50] <jefimenko> fritsch: and bridge-utils are also install
[11:50] <siganderson> how do I see the last deleted files on a ext4 fs?
[11:50]  * buxy wonders if we have slashdotters here willing to vote up http://slashdot.org/submission/1803984/get-a-copy-of-the-debian-administrators-handbook on http://slashdot.org/recent
[11:51] <Myrtti> buxy: how is that related to Ubuntu support?
[11:51] <fritsch> jefimenko: okay, the script looks sane for me
[11:51] <fritsch> jefimenko: $IFACE you get from environment?
[11:52] <duromorir> heyy
[11:53] <jefimenko> fritsch: that file is /etc/network/interfaces
[11:53] <cowo_pengen> bro help me to hack password wifi
[11:53] <jefimenko> fritsch: so i believe $IFACE is filled in with the current iface
[11:53] <jrib> cowo_pengen: that's not done here
[11:54] <fritsch> jefimenko: i hope so
[11:54] <fritsch> jefimenko: you did copy and paste what is not working?
[11:54] <fritsch> jefimenko: lsb_release -a is correct now?
[11:54] <cowo_pengen> give me a link to try ,,i learn
[11:54] <Fargh> anyone got a good tutorial on how to manage routing over VPN in ubuntu ?
[11:54] <jefimenko> fritsch: yes it is
[11:54] <jrib> cowo_pengen: no, please stop asking about it here
[11:55] <fritsch> jefimenko: so "semi working" everything
[11:55] <jefimenko> fritsch: i'm double checking what's not working right now, give me a second
[11:55] <cowo_pengen> okeh ,, so what we share here ,,,
[11:55] <cowo_pengen> cause im newbie in this forum ,,thanks alo t
[11:56] <bazhang> cowo_pengen, ubuntu support
[11:56] <cowo_pengen> bazhang ::: ubuntu support ?? what did u mean
[11:56] <bazhang> cowo_pengen, did you have an ubuntu support question?
[11:56] <iceroot> cowo_pengen: this channel is for technical ubuntu support
[11:56] <cowo_pengen> owh sorry ,,, this room for ubuntu support ,,
[11:57] <jefimenko> fritsch: ok, this breaks bond0.100: http://pastebin.com/001FSAHc
[11:57] <jefimenko> fritsch: see how i added the br0 bridge and moved the IP assignment from bond0 to br0
[11:57] <jefimenko> fritsch: the IP in br0 still works, but bond0.100 is broken now
[11:57] <cowo_pengen> yah, but if u know forum to learn about hacking via terminal ubuntju
[11:57] <cowo_pengen> sorry all
[11:57] <bazhang> cowo_pengen, stop now.
[11:57] <fritsch> jefimenko: this used to work before?
[11:57] <john> hello i could use some help with a ubuntu server im seting up and logmein hamachi
[11:57] <Guest45394> does anybody know any good free vpn services with american based servers?
[11:58] <cowo_pengen> okeh okeh
[11:58] <jefimenko> fritsch: i can ping <IP_ADDRESS> from the system itself, but not from the outside
[11:58] <jefimenko> fritsch: yes, it worked before
[11:58] <jefimenko> fritsch: it was unchanged
[11:58] <pakete> ok i insalled alsamixer... How it is supposed to help?
[11:58] <fritsch> jefimenko: sorry, i cannot help here in detail
[11:58] <pakete> the same thing - no reaction to volume adjusment
[11:58] <fritsch> pakete: it unutes eventually muted sinks
[11:58] <bazhang> Guest45394, thats not an ubuntu support issue
[11:58] <}[oO]{> okay...is there right click menu availability on the Unity panel for Ubuntu Natty 11.04?
[11:58] <fritsch> jefimenko: did you try bringing up the bridge manually?
[11:59] <john> when i try to install the deb file it says lsb-core is not avalible and cant be installed
[11:59] <fritsch> jefimenko: in order to see more in detail what really kills your bond0.100?
[11:59] <john> but for my desktop version it works fine
[11:59] <D_Russ> is there a better photo editor than gimp thats open source? or is there a way to make gimp contained in one window? like PS
[12:00] <albech> ping
[12:00] <pakete> it is unmuted for sure... just no sound and the volume is at the max
[12:00] <Fargh> ppong
[12:00] <jefimenko> fritsch: no, i'm not sure how to bring it up manually
[12:00] <phlak_user> }[oO]{: when i right click on any icon on the Unity Panel i get -> name of app in first line, Keep in launcher as next option and Quit as third if its running
[12:00] <}[oO]{> i'm talking about the top panel, phlak_user.
[12:01] <cowo_pengen> top panel yah
[12:01] <cowo_pengen> there is a problem
[12:01] <fritsch> jefimenko: just issue these commands
[12:01] <phlak_user> }[oO]{: nope nothing there
[12:01] <fritsch> jefimenko: the commands, i mean
[12:01] <jefimenko> fritsch: i think i found it :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/771209
[12:01] <}[oO]{> i suppose it's the gnome-panel. volume icon dropped off and can't find out how to get it back.
[12:02] <fritsch> jefimenko: oh no
[12:02] <ahhughez> heya, what is the correct format to add this ppa to my sources.list  https://launchpad.net/~utouch-team/+archive/daily    is this "deb https://launchpad.net/~utouch-team/+archive/daily natty main restricted" ?
[12:02] <cowo_pengen> hem
[12:02] <fritsch> jefimenko: ebtables -t broute -A BROUTING -i eth0 -p 802_1Q -j DROP
[12:02] <jefimenko> just saw that
[12:02] <fritsch> jefimenko: but i do not understand fully what it does
[12:02] <jefimenko> fritsch: neither do i
[12:03] <phlak_user> }[oO]{: you need to add it to the notification applet
[12:03] <fritsch> jefimenko: i think yours has to b ebtables -t broute -A BROUTING -i bond0 -p ... -j DROP
[12:03] <fritsch> jefimenko: but i think you have to experiment
[12:04] <}[oO]{> add it how?
[12:04] <}[oO]{> i think it's related tot he indicator applet
[12:04] <phlak_user> }[oO]{: like this -> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-re-enable-notification-area.html
[12:05] <jefimenko> fritsch: is this bug in oneric too?
[12:05] <fritsch> jefimenko: this is no bug i think
[12:05] <fritsch> jefimenko: just a kernel change
[12:06] <jefimenko> fritsch: well, it did work
[12:06] <phlak_user> ahhughez: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:name-of-ppa and then sudo apt-get update
[12:07] <fritsch> jefimenko: you change eth0 to bond0?
[12:07] <ahhughez> sweet thanks phlak_user
[12:07] <}[oO]{> phlak_user: best guess, use the whitelist command and recycle the session, then?
[12:07] <jefimenko> fritsch: i did change it to bond0
[12:07] <fritsch> oki
[12:08] <fritsch> you could include it in a boot script then
[12:08] <jefimenko> fritsch: hm do you know which bootscript?
[12:09] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[12:10] <fritsch> jefimenko: you can just run it after br0 is up
[12:10] <phlak_user> }[oO]{: sure
[12:10] <fritsch> jefimenko: bond0 is up
[12:10] <jefimenko> i've never done network-dependent bootscripts
[12:10] <jefimenko> is this something i can add in /etc/network/interfaces?
[12:11] <JackSparow> hello everybody
[12:11] <cmicallef> hiiii
[12:12] <JackSparow> do you know the name of the french ubuntu channel here ?
[12:12] <JackSparow> i am not stable in english
[12:12] <JackSparow> i make too many mistakes
[12:12] <JackSparow> ^^
[12:12] <phlak_user> !fr
[12:13] <JackSparow> thank you
[12:15] <ionite> hi guys. i am using ubuntu. but my realtek 8172 driver wont work. it can detect my wireless and scan for my router.
[12:15] <cmicallef> ionite: hmmm
[12:16] <cmicallef> ionite: i recently tried a usb realtek 8192 wireless
[12:16] <ionite> cmicallef: i searched online. there were many forums and users faced with this problem but i don't know how to do it.
[12:16] <cmicallef> ionite: what version of ubuntu?
[12:16] <ionite> cmicallef: i read up alot and many of them are suggesting to replace the 8172 driver with 8192 and claims that they work as well.
[12:17] <ionite> cmicallef: 11.04
[12:17] <ionite> cmicallef: could it be the network manager problem? now i am using lan.
[12:18] <cmicallef> ionite: are the right modules loading?
[12:18] <ionite> cmicallef: how do i check? i am a noob so i don't know how to check.
[12:18] <cmicallef> ionite: ahhhh
[12:19] <amin`> does anyone know how to create SSTP VPN connection????
[12:19] <cmicallef> ionite: run iwconfig in a term and tell me if you see any wifi connections
[12:19] <ionite> cmicallef: paste for u in private.
[12:20] <jefimenko> fritsch: thanks for all the help---i really appreciate it
[12:20] <jefimenko> fritsch: any recommendations on where to put this ebtables snippet though? i'm searching through the ubuntu docs for a recommendation
[12:21] <ionite> cmicallef: how did u get urs to work?
[12:21] <fritsch> jefimenko: yes
[12:22] <fritsch> jefimenko: put it into the post up folder
[12:22] <fritsch> jefimenko: check if bond0 came up and run this command
[12:22] <vsync> Is there a channel for Unity?
[12:22] <fritsch> jefimenko: if-up.d
[12:23] <fritsch> jefimenko: if [ "$IFACE" = bond0 ]; then
[12:23] <fritsch> jefimenko: your_ebtables_command
[12:23] <fritsch> jefimenko: fi
[12:23] <fritsch> thats all
[12:25] <nnull> anyone recommend a app i can use to chop up mp3s to make my own? (wont be selling them lol)
[12:29] <D_Russ> nnull audacity
[12:37] <}[oO]{> missing volume icon solved... sudo apt-get install indicator-sound (not to be confused with gnome-volume-control-applet)
[12:41] <ChristW> I'm running an Ubuntu Server on an old Compaq computer with an Elsa GLoria Synergy card. The console fonts (on an attached VGA monitor) are unreadable. Any idea what I can do to solve this? The boot menu shows up correctly, and the screen becomes unreadable after pressing 'Enter' to boot.
[12:41] <ChristW> Ubuntu version is 11.04
[12:41] <jamesw> hi, i'm on natty, if i wanted to force upgrade to latest software center without breaking anything else, how could i do that?
[12:42] <theadmin> jamesw: You can't upgrade to Oneric "partially", no.
[12:42] <bazhang> jamesw, you cannot.
[12:42] <jamesw> theadmin, bazhang: not even if i manually install a deb?
[12:43] <theadmin> jamesw: Dependencies and stuff. No.
[12:43] <bazhang> jamesw, you said without breaking things, so no.
[12:43] <Gentoo64> why does everyone want the latest software centre btw?
[12:43] <jamesw> better designed, more sorting/rating etc
[12:43] <theadmin> jamesw: Meh... Nothing wrong with apt-get
[12:44] <ahhughez> Im using mythbuntu, and its menu is different to ubuntu's... can someone confirm they have Applications -> System -> Preferences ?
[12:44] <theadmin> Gentoo64 would know ;) I don't think emerge has any GUI frontends, does it?
[12:44] <theadmin> ahhughez: It's normally just System -> Preferences on Ubuntu, but yah
[12:44] <Gentoo64> i just dont see the big deal
[12:44] <stickyboy> I just tried to switch from NVIDIA to Nouveau on Natty and now I can't boot... strangely live USB won't boot either.
[12:44] <Gentoo64> theadmin, there probably is..
[12:44] <Gentoo64> lol
[12:44] <jamesw> theadmin: it does, you just have to tweak it for your kernel before compiling it from source
[12:45] <ahhughez> theadmin, ya cheers. I've got no idea why they have removed it here.
[12:45] <ahhughez> Is there a cli way to load system -> preferences?
[12:45] <theadmin> ahhughez: It's probably not present due to you not running GNOME.
[12:45] <Sean__>  when using ddrescue i get the error "ddrescue: write error: Input/output error" what does this mean?
[12:45] <celltech> What's the terminal command for configuring the google talk plugin
[12:45] <jamesw> ahhughez: see menu editor, right click on the menu and go to menu editor. each preferences action is it's own program
[12:46] <ionite> can anyone help me with my ubuntu? i can't connect with my realtek 8172. it is unable to scan for any wireless.
[12:47] <paulus68> !wifi |ionite
[12:47] <ahhughez> theadmin, what would this be if its not gnome (sorry to be hitting you up for noob q's)
[12:47] <theadmin> ahhughez: Probably no such thing at all.
[12:48] <theadmin> ahhughez: I mean, I don't know, MythBuntu runs MythTV which I never used at all
[12:48] <ahhughez> jamesw, this doesnt appear to have a menu editor :'(
[12:48] <trickz> what does the f in tar -xzf smth.tgz do exactly ? (man page wasnt clear) also you can do tar xzf instead of tar -xzf (skip the - ) o.O
[12:49] <ionite> paulus68: i read that but i can't solve it
[12:49] <Gentoo64> trickz, you can skip the -
[12:49] <Gentoo64> trickz, x extracts
[12:49] <trickz> didnt knwo that, for all commands ?
[12:49] <theadmin> trickz: I know you can, yes. x = extract, z = gzip compression, f = from file
[12:49] <stickyboy> trickz: It tells 'tar' to read/write to the file, rather than to the screen.
[12:50] <Gentoo64> trickz, do tar --help its clearer than a man page
[12:50] <trickz> stickyboy: but tar xz smth.tgz actually blocks the console
[12:50] <trickz> same as man :(
[12:50] <ionite> can anyone help me with my ubuntu? i can't connect with my realtek 8172. it is unable to scan for any wireless.
[12:50] <theadmin> trickz: xz reads from STDIN, not from a file
[12:51] <trickz> theadmin: f = from file ,umm from file means ?
[12:51] <stickyboy> trickz: It's waiting for input :)
[12:51] <phlak_user> trickz: i normally type tar zxvf name-of-tar.gz file
[12:51] <Gentoo64> trickz, ah ok its normally clearer for the arguments
[12:51] <Gentoo64> for most progs
[12:51] <theadmin> trickz: From file means from file specified on commandline
[12:51] <theadmin> trickz: NOT from STDIN
[12:51] <celltech> google talk is flash. whats the gstreamer plugin for flash? Cause the properties allows my videocam to work
[12:51] <trickz> got it :) what is device ARCHIVE ?
[12:51] <trickz> phlak_user: v would spit out all the files
[12:52] <phlak_user> trickz: that way we know what's happening wont we?
[12:52] <trickz> well, true :)
[12:52] <jamesw> ionite: did you google? i just googled realtek 8172 ubuntu and i see quite a few links of note
[12:52] <ionite> jamesw: i did and i tried. it still doesn't work.
[12:53] <theadmin> Just so you people know, in recent versions of tar, "z" and "f" flags are unneeded when extracting, it auto-determines the compression type in use :P
[12:53] <theadmin> Err
[12:53] <trickz> :D
[12:53] <theadmin> "z" and "j"*
[12:53] <trickz> thanks tho :)
[12:53] <trickz> one more thing, what is device ARCHIVE ?
[12:53] <phlak_user> ionite: you need to see the logs (sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog) while the scanning etc is going on
[12:53] <phlak_user> theadmin: i prefer to specify it tho ;)
[12:54] <ionite> phlak_user: i got this error： Sep 30 20:04:21 nx116 wpa_supplicant[887]: Failed to disable WPA in the driver.
[12:54] <usr13> theadmin: Thanks for the info... yea, was about to correct you on the "f"  ;)
[12:55] <usr13> so now it's just tar xv  or xvf  ?
[12:55] <ionite> phlak_user: can u please help me with my realtek?
[12:55] <theadmin> usr13: xv for STDIN, xvf for file input
[12:55] <phlak_user> ionite: i can try
[12:55] <theadmin> usr13: You can omit the v as well, it's just for verbosity
[12:55] <usr13> theadmin: Old habits are  hard to break
[12:56] <stickyboy> Man, proprietary NVIDIA modules are a pain in the ass.
[12:56] <usr13> but simple is better
[12:56] <theadmin> usr13: I normally just do "tar xf" or "tar czf"
[12:56] <Loki^1> hi! i get a purple/pink screen just after grub2 starts on ubuntu 11.04, changing plymouth splash color to something else or disabling splash screen in grub kernel line doesnt help it. i ran sudo update-grub. anyone knows a solution how to change or disable that purple screen?
[12:56] <theadmin> usr13: The last one for creation, that is
[12:56] <ionite> phlak_user: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699728/
[12:56] <jamesw> ionite: maybe related? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/401126?comments=all
[12:56] <usr13> czf will to gzip?
[12:57] <theadmin> usr13: Yeah
[12:57] <usr13> Oh yea, that's right, it did before.  Than's not new. (Memory laps)
[12:58] <phlak_user> ionite: were you trying to compile a driver there?
[12:58] <ionite> jamesw: currently it can't even scan for other routers.
[12:58] <ionite> phlak_user: yes i was following some online guides and it didn't work.
[12:58] <usr13> but I always use v.  I suppose I like the conversations I have with my system.
[12:58] <ionite> phlak_user: i don't know what would now..
[12:58] <celltech> Found some gst plug ins but I don't know what one to download
[12:59] <phlak_user> ionite: forget about that for a moment; lets just focus on the driver thats in the current distro
[12:59] <phlak_user> ionite: can you pastebin the output of lsmod
[12:59] <ionite> phlak_user: ok. so what should i do now?
[13:00] <theadmin> usr13: Well, normally I do "tar c blah.file blah.file2 | 7z a -si whatever.tar.7z" actually. But that's when I've got 7-zip installed.
[13:00] <usr13> lsmon | pastebinit     #FYI
[13:01] <usr13> I've not used 7-zip to archive any files yet.
[13:01] <Loki^1> i get a purple blank screen after grub started and before the normal plymoth splash screen starts on ubuntu 11.04 natty, anyone knows how to change the color or disable it?
[13:01] <ahhughez> how can I get the model number of my motherboard?
[13:01] <usr13> ahhughez: look at it
[13:02] <ionite> phlak_user: i can't load pastebin. it's too slow. anywhere else can i paste?
[13:02] <gsommer> I've recently installed Ubuntu on my laptop. Suspend seems to work great (And insanly fast too). But hibernation does not... When trying to resume form hibernation, it will just start the system normally (So, none of my programs are saved). How should I go around debugging this issue ?
[13:02] <jiltdil> How to play .mwv video ?
[13:02] <theadmin> gsommer: You sure you have a swap partition?
[13:02] <usr13> ionite: lsmod | pastebinit
[13:02] <gsommer> theadmin: Yes I have, on sda2
[13:03] <gsommer> theadmin: Though, fstab uses UUID
[13:03] <theadmin> gsommer: Is it mounted when you try to hibernate?
[13:03] <LaWU> @jiltdil: Download VLC Media Player.
[13:03] <schreber> is there a specific manufacture of wlan cards that 'just work' out of the box with 11.04?
[13:03] <ionite> phlak_user: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699733/
[13:03] <ionite> usr13: ok. managed to got it
[13:03] <ionite> jamesw: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699733/
[13:03] <ikonia> thats; /window 22
[13:03] <ikonia> oops
[13:03] <gsommer> theadmin: The swap-partition is activated yes (At least according to "free")
[13:03] <LaWU> @Schreber: My D-ink wireless NIC works fine.
[13:03] <jiltdil> LaWU:VLC does not support the audio or video format "MSS2".
[13:04] <LaWU> D-Link*
[13:04] <dalton2345> hello everyon
[13:04] <usr13> blkid  /dev/sda2    #To see what the UUID is
[13:04] <phlak_user> ionite: did you unload any modules?
[13:04] <theadmin> gsommer: Okay, that sounds like a bug to me :(
[13:04] <ionite> phlak_user: not yet.
[13:04] <dalton2345> my home keep going down...like now i have only 1.3gb
[13:04] <schreber> LaWU: do you know the specific model #?
[13:04] <phlak_user> ionite: ok, i dont see a wireless module on that yet
[13:04] <ionite> phlak_user: i don't eveng know what you're talking about. sorry i'm a noob.
[13:04] <jiltdil> gsommer: will you please repeat your question?
[13:04] <LaWU> @schreber: Gimme a sec, I'll check for you quickly.
[13:05] <ionite> phlak_user: please guide me as i'm a noob to ubuntu.
[13:05] <schreber> LaWU: thanks
[13:05] <gsommer> theadmin: It LOOKS like it's shutting down correctly (according to /var/log/pm-suspend.log says "performaing hibernate" as the last entry)... Though, resuming seems to not tricker
[13:05] <dalton2345> 1.2 gb now i dont understand
[13:06] <LaWU> @schreber: It's the D-Link DWA-525. Quite a nice card, supports 802.11 b/ g/ n.
[13:06] <schreber> thanks again.
[13:06] <dalton2345> i'm downloading some stuff it shouldnt touch my /
[13:06] <gsommer> jiltdil: "suspend" seems to work flaslessly on my laptop. But, resume from hibernation does not seem to work.
[13:06] <ionite> phlak_user: do i need to install a mod?
[13:06] <LaWU> @schreber: Your welcome!
[13:06] <gsommer> jiltdil: I would prefer hibernation on my laptop, as it requires less power then "suspend"
[13:06] <jiltdil> gsommer: is your swap is more than double of your RAM?
[13:06] <phlak_user> ionite: can you pastebin the output of sudo lshw -C network
[13:07] <gsommer> jiltdil: No, it's less
[13:07] <theadmin> LaWU: This is not twitter. Please don't use @, as it may break highlighting for some users
[13:07] <dalton2345> jiltdil, who you talking to
[13:07] <jiltdil> gsommer: make it more than double problem will automatically solve for you
[13:07] <gsommer> jiltdil: Ok, can I resize my ext4 root partition ?
[13:07] <usr13> ionite:  lshw -C network | pastebinit
[13:07] <LaWU> ROFL... What's this "Twitter"?! Will do theadmin. ;)
[13:08] <ionite> phlak_user: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699742/
[13:08] <ionite> usr13: thanks! it's this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699742/
[13:09] <jiltdil> dalton2345: ????
[13:09] <phlak_user> ionite: hmm that doesnt show a wireless card though im guessing the section under "Unclaimed" is it
[13:10] <ionite> phlak_user: so what should i do? install a driver?
[13:10] <usr13> ionite: lspci | pastebinit
[13:10] <abhinav_singh1> which tool i should use for debugging HTTP proxy?
[13:10] <usr13> phlak_user: We should see what lspci says about it.
[13:11] <phlak_user> ionite: yes do what usr13 days so we can validate
[13:11] <ionite> phlak_user: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699745/
[13:11] <ionite> usr13: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699745/
[13:11] <phlak_user> ionite: you can then go about loading the module
[13:11] <phlak_user> ionite: ok it says theres a Realtek 8172
[13:12] <dalton2345> can someone answer me...why my / go down by itself
[13:13] <LaWU> I want to connect from one computer over the Internet securely to another (both run Ubuntu), are there any applications I can use to do this?
[13:13] <ionite> phlak_user: yep. but i can't get a headstart what should i do to install drivers. because when i go to additional drivers button, it doesn't show anything.
[13:13] <usr13> phlak_user: ionite  Realtek 8172  is a wifi NIC, I'm pretty sure.
[13:13] <jiltdil> LaWU:ssh
[13:13] <phlak_user> usr13: yes i know
[13:13] <ionite> usr13: what'
[13:13] <ionite> usr13: what's a NIC?
[13:14] <Sean__>  when using ddrescue i get the error "ddrescue: write error: Input/output error" what does this mean?
[13:14] <aboudreault> Is there any RC release available for 11.10?
[13:14] <x4nd3r> #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:14] <phlak_user> usr13: maybe hes unloaded the module when trying to compile a new driver (which is what he was doing when i stepped in)
[13:14] <usr13> NIC -  Netwrok Interface Controller
[13:15] <phlak_user> ionite: do you have a wireless on/off switch?
[13:15] <phlak_user> ionite: if yes, pl toggle it to off and then on again
[13:15] <ionite> phlak_user: yes i do but i can't enable it whenever i press FN+F4
[13:15] <x4nd3r> halo!!
[13:15] <LaWU> jiltdil: How do I go about configuring that?
[13:15] <usr13> phlak_user: That's possible.  I see discussion Ubuntu forum about Realtek 8172 Wireless but it's a couple years old.  That indicates to me that it's supposed to just work now.
[13:16] <phlak_user> usr13: yes that what i think too :)
[13:16] <jiltdil> LaWU: only ip of that comp and allowing from firewall
[13:16] <ionite> phlak_user: nothing happens when i press FN+F4
[13:16] <x4nd3r> who can help me with kismet?
[13:16] <LaWU> jiltdil: Cool, I'll give it a shot, thanks.
[13:16] <jiltdil> LaWU: also ssh is allowed via modem
[13:16] <phlak_user> ionite: can you just reboot the machine and then run the lshw -C network command once it comes up
[13:16] <usr13> ionite: This is a laptop, right?  Do you have a switch for it?
[13:17] <ionite> usr13: it's not a switch but it's a keyboard button.
[13:17] <ionite> phlak_user: so i'll restart now yeah? and paste bin?
[13:17] <usr13> ionite: Ok, well as phlak_user says, mabye rebooting witll help.
[13:17] <phlak_user> ionite: yes please and ensure that the wireless switch is up (light glowing etc)
[13:17] <x4nd3r> i'm helpless :(
[13:18] <usr13> x4nd3r: What's wrong with kismet?
[13:18] <ionite> phlak_user: there's no light glowing. or anything. it worked fine with KDE weeks ago.
[13:18] <phlak_user> usr13: whats funny from this post of Jan 11 is that they've recommended compiling a driver for the 8192 as a workaround  -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1665892
[13:19] <phlak_user> ionite: never mind; can you just reboot please
[13:19] <usr13> ionite: I would check with iwconfig    (I don't have much confidence in the light always working).
[13:19] <ionite> phlak_user: so i'll restart now yeah?
[13:19] <phlak_user> ionite: yes
[13:19] <rog> i'm just seeing ubuntuone-syncdaemon use up enormous amounts of resources and slowing down the whole machine
[13:20] <rog> is this a known problem?
[13:21] <LaWU> jiltdil: Will SSH allow me to view the remote computer's desktop?
[13:21] <rog> i've got 8GB of memory on this machine and it's maxing it out and swapping
[13:22] <jiltdil> LaWU: yes if u gain root access u will do everyting :)
[13:22] <theadmin> LaWU: Only with X forwarding
[13:22] <x4nd3r> hyee
[13:22] <jiltdil> LaWU: to view in graphical use X
[13:22] <usr13> phlak_user: I see...  "driver=rtl819xSE"
[13:22] <ionite> phlak_user: still cant. nothing happens.
[13:22] <ionite> usr13: still the same. no change.
[13:23] <LaWU> jiltdil: Okay so I just downloaded it - is there a GUI that allows me to set it up?
[13:23] <x4nd3r> hye
[13:23] <phlak_user> ionite: what was the o/p of lshw -C network?
[13:23] <usr13> phlak_user: I think you're right, he probably  needs rtl819xSE
[13:23] <oooaaaooo> hi guys, am running 11.04 , how do I edit my startup applications? When i launch it from unity search, the only option is to disable currently abled applications but the ones that have been disabled are greyed out.
[13:23] <x4nd3r> kismet problem....huhuu
[13:24] <phlak_user> !patience| x4nd3r
[13:24] <rog> did sudo kill -9 of it and suddenly my memory is back to 10% used.
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: search in dash for startup    it will appear
[13:24] <ionite> phlak_user: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699755/
[13:24] <ionite> usr13: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699755/
[13:24] <ionite> usr13: but i read alot about 8172 requires 8192se. so i'm quite confused. which is which.
[13:24] <phlak_user> ionite: aha - now its not unclaimed!
[13:24] <oooaaaooo> ActionParsnip: dash is the little ubuntu-sign button at the top left corner of unity?
[13:25] <phlak_user> ionite: can you also paste output of lsmod?
[13:25] <janis> hi guys!! Can I force aptitude do do what I tell it?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: sure, or you can press SuperL
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> janis: i wouldn't advise it, read:  man aptitude
[13:25] <ubuntuss> does anyone know how to deactivate the internal wifi card? mine isnt that good so I bought an external one. I can deactivate wifi via "sudo iwconfig eth2 txpower off". But then I cant use no wifi anymore... Can someone help?
[13:25] <phlak_user> ubuntuss: you can blacklist the internal card module
[13:25] <oooaaaooo> ActionParsnip: yeah thats what IM talking about, that pulls it up but i cant enable currently disabled options; all i can do is disable currently enabled applications. Is this a permissions issue?
[13:26] <ajin1> hi,all
[13:26] <ajin1> long time no see
[13:26] <x4nd3r> sry,,,,
[13:26] <x4nd3r> hmmm :|
[13:26] <ionite> phlak_user: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699757/
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: on the right, is the 'add' button present?
[13:26] <ionite> usr13: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699757/
[13:26] <janis> ActionParsnip, I assume you are freferring to the --full-resolver cmdline option?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> janis: no idea, I don't use aptitude
[13:26] <oooaaaooo> ActionParsnip: yeah
[13:27] <oooaaaooo> ActionParsnip: but i dont wanna add apps, just enable ones already in the list
[13:27] <phlak_user> ionite: ok i see this module -> r8192se_pci
[13:27] <oooaaaooo> ActionParsnip: but theyre greyed out and I cant select them
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: then click that and add what you want
[13:27] <phlak_user> ionite: what is the output of sudo iwconfig
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: if they are not enabled then don't sweat them
[13:28] <ajin1> hey guys,question! my ubuntu10.04 has a very slow internet access using ADSL, anyone know how?
[13:28] <oooaaaooo> ActionParsnip: what? I want to enable them
[13:28] <Fudge> hi what coulod be causing this dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: syntax error: unknown user 'debian-transmission' in statoverride file
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: all it does it add a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart    you could have a look in there
[13:28] <ionite> phlak_user: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699759/
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: adding the same item, will effetively enable it
[13:28] <ionite> phlak_user: does that means that i should instsall 8191se?
[13:28] <phlak_user> ionite: that means its installed and working fine
[13:28] <usr13> phlak_user: http://www.linwik.com/wiki/using+the+realtek+8172+and+8192se+wireless+controller+with+ubuntu+9.10
[13:29] <phlak_user> usr13: he seems to have the correct module (8192se)
[13:29] <usr13> ionite: phlak_user   I don't see rtl anything in  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699757/
[13:29] <oooaaaooo> ActionParsnip: how did they get greyed out?
[13:29] <usr13> phlak_user: Oh?   What does iwconfig say?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: no idea, I always just add my own files in the autostart folder :)
[13:30] <phlak_user> ionite: look at sl no 36
[13:30] <ionite> phlak_user: ??
[13:30] <usr13> phlak_user: I see:  r8192se_pci    I guess that is it...
[13:30] <Sean__>  when using ddrescue i get the error "ddrescue: write error: Input/output error" what does this mean?
[13:30] <phlak_user> ionite: sorry that was for usr13 :)
[13:30] <ubuntuss> phlak_user: http://codepaste.net/rc2rqi
[13:30] <oooaaaooo> ActionParsnip: well thats one way to go about it, but I'd like to know why theyre being greyed out. I cant keep re-adding programs as my needs change
[13:31] <ubuntuss> do you know what the name of that wifi module is?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> Sean__: sounds like the IDE is faulty, or the destination partition is full or having issue
[13:31] <Dex> hello again. i have another problem. after remove a pci express video adapter and back to integrate video adapter - after loading system i see only black screen without any login window.i think there are incorrect config from old card. how can fix this.
[13:31] <oooaaaooo> ActionParsnip: i believe the whole idea is to be able to on-the-fly enable/disable an added item
[13:31] <phlak_user> ionite: now if you click on network manager applet you should see wireless networks
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: that's all I know dude, I don't use GUI apps much, they are too slow
[13:31] <ionite> phlak_user: no i don't it says no net work found.
[13:31] <usr13> ionite: iwconfig   #Try toggeling it on / off and see if you get anything encouraging in the output of   iwconfig
[13:31] <phlak_user> ubuntuss: ipw2200 its an intel
[13:32] <oooaaaooo> ActionParsnip: alright wheres the autostart folder
[13:32] <phlak_user> ionite: so is there a wireless network around? like an AP or a router ?
[13:32] <oooaaaooo> ActionParsnip: is there a conf file?
[13:32] <phlak_user> ionite:  you can also type sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: ~/.config/autostart    you may find the disabled items there and see how they differ to the enabled ones
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: its just a folder
[13:33] <ionite> phlak_user: sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning wlan0     No scan results
[13:33] <phlak_user> ionite: right; this means its scanning but cant find any networks
[13:33] <ionite> phlak_user: there are plenty of wireless around.
[13:34] <ionite> phlak_user: my mum is using the wireless. my net book is just sitting infront of my router.
[13:34] <phlak_user> ionite: ok
[13:34] <phlak_user> ionite: can you paste o/p of tail -f /var/log/syslog when you run the scanning command
[13:35] <KATUSSS> hey yo fellows i am back
[13:35] <slestak> anyone using tmux on 11.04?
[13:35] <oooaaaooo> ActionParsnip: i see a difference in the .Desktop file : X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=false
[13:35] <slestak> mine was working, but my vps provider moved me to another node.  seems to have broken since the move
[13:35] <oooaaaooo> ActionParsnip: i suppose changing that to a true will enable it..?
[13:36] <slestak> getting a “create session failed: : No such file or directory”
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: try it, you already know how to change it back ;)
[13:36] <zamba> how do i disable the animation when switching workspaces in ubuntu?
[13:36] <phlak_user> zamba:  play with ccsm
[13:36] <phlak_user> !info ccsm
[13:36] <KATUSSS> which is the best website to download likewise
[13:36] <ubuntuss> phlak_user thx I will reboot now
[13:36] <zamba> phlak_user: exactly where?
[13:36] <ubuntuss> hope it helps
[13:37] <ionite> phlak_user: i've got WICD installed i tot it would improve but it's the same. what's more weird is that it was working just 2 days ago. and i didn't do anything to it. it just couldn't connect after a restart.
[13:37] <ionite> phlak_user: do i paste the entire sys log?
[13:37] <phlak_user> ionite: nope just the part where it talks about the wireless card
[13:38] <phlak_user> zamba: http://wiki.compiz.org/CCSM
[13:38] <oooaaaooo> ActionParsnip: yeah that does the trick... except i should be able to "access" my .desktop file from the startup manager
[13:38] <ionite> phlak_user: it's so long how do i which part to copy?
[13:38] <ionite> phlak_user: oh ok. hang on.
[13:38] <oooaaaooo> ActionParsnip: im a moron
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: oh?
[13:39] <ionite> phlak_user: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699774/
[13:39] <ljsoftnet> real studio doesn't maximize how do i fix it?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: file ownership?
[13:39] <oooaaaooo> ActionParsnip: they are accessible. I just ASSUMED that they werent because they were greyed out.
[13:39] <oooaaaooo> ActionParsnip: yeah time to go buy a one button mouse
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> oooaaaooo: ahh, well you learned something about your OS at least ;)
[13:39] <oooaaaooo> ActionParsnip: thanks anyways
[13:39] <usr13> ionite: Could be that the card is a little loose in the slot.  Try re-setting it.
[13:39] <oooaaaooo> ActionParsnip: yeah lol
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> oooonp bro, thanks for being patient ;)
[13:40] <ionite> usr13: it's a integrated wifi card with my mother board.
[13:41] <usr13> ionite: This is a laptop?  What make/model?
[13:43] <ionite> usr13: http://www.nexxon.com.sg/projects1.html
[13:43] <Dex> after remove a pci express video adapter and back to integrate video adapter - after loading system i see only black screen without any login window.i think there are incorrect config from old card. how can fix this.
[13:43] <ljsoftnet> real studio doesn't maximize how do i fix it?
[13:43] <ionite> phlak_user: u got the paste bin?
[13:44] <phlak_user> ionite: yes i did
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Dex: what video chip is the onboard? What is the release you have?
[13:44] <ionite> phlak_user: ok. do i need to reinstall the driver?
[13:44] <phlak_user> ionite: but its got me foxed!
[13:44] <phlak_user> ionite: let me read some more
[13:45] <ionite> phlak_user: ok thanks so much
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: what happens when you try? Do other apps maximized?
[13:45] <ajin1> hello
[13:45] <amdx2> heloo
[13:45] <ajin1> anyone could help me?
[13:46] <amdx2> talk please
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> ajin1: without details, no
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> amdx2: hi
[13:46] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip its stuck at its own window, other windows maximize well
[13:46] <alakoo> ajin1: identify the problem and wait for answers
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: is it a known issue?
[13:47] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip i dont know this is my first install
[13:47] <ajin1> ok, i'll keep trying
[13:47] <phlak_user> ionite: can you try toggling the wireless switch?
[13:47] <Dex> ActionParsnip: the mother board is - Gigabyte GA-G41MT-D3V. cant find info about chip.
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: I'd check that first, may also want to log into Ubuntu Classic, see if its ok there...
[13:47] <hdtdi> hi i am reading this article http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/10/setup-vnc-server-for-ubuntu-gutsy.html and trying to install vnc and connect to my ubuntu box from my windows box. but when i do all the things written, i write ip:5800 in my browser and i write my password but i get java.securiti.AccessControllException: access denied (java.net.SocketPermission ip:59000 connect, resolve) and
[13:47] <hdtdi> in my terminal i get http://pastebin.com/PK50JzkV. any idea whys that?
[13:47] <FloodBot1> hdtdi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:48] <phlak_user> ionite: can you run sudo rfkill list and pastebin its output?
[13:48] <Jimbo23> hello everyone
[13:48] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip il give it a try
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Dex: it's some intel rubbish, so the boot option:  nomodeset   may help
[13:50] <ionite> phlak_user: i entered the command u gave me but nothing happens?
[13:50] <ionite> phlak_user: there's nothing to paste.
[13:50] <Jimbo23> Can anyone point me to or directly help me with an install problem? I've been deep in the forums for the last 2 days and tried everything suggested and still nothing :( I'm trying to install 11.04 Server 64-Bit and keep ending up with an error that it can't install grub
[13:50] <phlak_user> ionite: you should get something like this -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/699783/
[13:50] <Dex> ActionParsnip: howto set this mode "nomodeset" to the bootloader? or any else?
[13:51] <ionite> phlak_user: i don't have any display when i hit the command.
[13:51] <phlak_user> ionite: what command are you entering?
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | dex
[13:52] <ionite> phlak_user: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699784/
[13:52] <Guest75492> hi
[13:53] <phlak_user> ionite: i see no other option but to recompile with a new (latest?) driver
[13:53] <ionite> phlak_user: so how do i go about?
[13:53] <phlak_user> ionite: can you follow this please -> http://www.linwik.com/wiki/using+the+realtek+8172+and+8192se+wireless+controller+with+ubuntu+9.10
[13:53] <phlak_user> ionite: though it says 9.10 it should still work for later versions as is evident in the comments
[13:54] <ionite> phlak_user: please guide me together while i follow the instructions on the website.
[13:54] <ionite> phlak_user: so i'll d/l 8191 se?
[13:54] <phlak_user> ionite: which kernel version are you on? uname -a should tell you
[13:54] <peto> hi :) where can i find launcher properties in Ubuntu 11.10? :)
[13:54] <phlak_user> ionite: hang on
[13:55] <ionite> phlak_user: Linux nx116 2.6.32-34-generic #77-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 13 19:40:53 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[13:55] <farciarz84> how to check which driver version do I have? e.g 2D driver: xf86-video-intel
[13:55] <phlak_user> ionite: ok download this file -> Linux driver for kernel 2.6.34 (and earlier)
[13:56] <usr13> phlak_user: Is he on  Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[13:56] <phlak_user> usr13: im assuming he is
[13:56] <phlak_user> ionite: what is the output of lsb_release -a
[13:57] <ServerTechLaptop> Can i somehow find out if the system reads a RAM stick?
[13:57] <usr13> ionite: He must be 10.04    Yes, ionite show is the output of   lsb_release -a
[13:58] <ionite> phlak_user: No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS Release:	10.04 Codename:	lucid
[13:58] <ionite> usr13: Oh my goodness. i'm on 10.04!
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> ionite: no bad thing
[13:58] <usr13> ionite: You didn't know that?
[13:58] <ionite> usr13: i tot i was using 11.04
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> ionite: lucid is still fully supported
[13:59] <usr13> ionite: As ActionParsnip points out,  10.04  is LTS
[13:59] <ionite> phlak_user: am i at the right d/l page? http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> ionite: Lucid desktop is EOL when Oneiric support ends, so is supported longer then Natty
[14:00] <ionite> usr13: any difference from 11.04? why are there different versions? what kinda users are they for?
[14:00] <usr13> ionite: At any rate, if you compile from source,  you should pick "Linux driver for kernel 2.6.34 (and earlier)" when you go to  http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=48&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#RTL8192SE
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> ionite: later kernel, later drivers, later Xorg etc. May help
[14:01] <usr13> ionite: Has this been upgraded?  Maybe from an original netbook install?
[14:01] <ionite> usr13: if i were to chose RTL8191SE-VA2 is this correct?
[14:01] <phlak_user> ionite: 8192SE not 8191SE
[14:02] <ionite> phlak_user: oic. so basically my problem is that i d/l the wrong driver?
[14:02] <phlak_user> ionite: nope; that didnt get installed; the one you have was part of the kernel
[14:03] <usr13> ionite: FYI:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[14:03] <ionite> phlak_user: oic. so i d/l the 2.6.34?
[14:03] <phlak_user> ionite: ok download this file -> Linux driver for kernel 2.6.34 (and earlier)
[14:03] <ionite> usr13: i'm sorry i really didn't knew i was on LTS. cuz i'm such a linux noob. and i really wanted to break free from Windows.
[14:03] <usr13> ionite: rtl8192se_linux_2.6.0019.1207.2010.tar.gz
[14:03] <ionite> usr13:  phlak_user  ok it's downloaded
[14:04] <ServerTechLaptop> any ideas for me?:P
[14:04] <ajin1> anyone know ailurus?
[14:04] <ajin1> a great software on ubuntu
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> ServerTechLaptop: all systems need RAM, or they fail POST
[14:04] <ionite> phlak_user: sorry i told u wrongly. i really didn't knew I was on LTS.
[14:04] <dr_willis> !info ailurus
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> !info ailurus
[14:04] <dr_willis> L0
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: snips
[14:04] <KATUSSS> ajinl:what does it do
[14:04] <ajin1> !info ailurus
[14:04] <usr13> ionite: Follwo instructions at  http://www.linwik.com/wiki/using+the+realtek+8172+and+8192se+wireless+controller+with+ubuntu+9.10
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: sounds like ubuntu tweak
[14:05] <ajin1> yes
[14:05] <ajin1> but better
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> ajin1: sounds like ubuntu tweak a lot
[14:05] <ionite> usr13: i don't understand what the mean at step 3. what is kernel headers?
[14:05] <usr13> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[14:06] <usr13> just do that command ^^^
[14:06] <ServerTechLaptop> ActionParsnip, i have Ubuntu 11.04, and I have 3x1gb and 1x512mb ram sticks in, and htop currently shows me only 2991mb.
[14:06] <ajin1> it will teach you how to configure linux using command line
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> ServerTechLaptop: can you give the output of:  uname -a
[14:06] <Abhijit> hi. anyone to help for centuries old pending issue? how to make mobile phone memory card mount as read/write. it is mounting default as read oonly. help!!!
[14:06] <ionite> usr13: ok. now i'm at replace /path/to what does it mean?
[14:06] <ajin1> while it leaves you graphic way
[14:07] <usr13> ionite: The different fonts in the boxes are commands for you to enter just as it says.
[14:07] <helo_> there is a process that is using about 1M/s of bandwidth for a few seconds, but i can't figure out what it is
[14:07] <helo_> i closed my browser
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> ajin1: so a gui app shows how to configure an OS at command line....
[14:07] <helo_> i've closed everythign i think it could be
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> helo_: run:  ntop
[14:08] <ajin1> ActionParsnip: exactly
[14:08] <usr13> ionite: sudo tar xzvf Downloads/rtl8192  #Hit tab key
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> ajin1: think abouot it....
[14:08] <helo_> man this thing is raping my bandwidth, whatever it is
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> usr13: why sudo if it is in the users hoome folder?
[14:08] <helo_> even ssh freezes
[14:08] <usr13> Oh yea.
[14:08] <ajin1> u never know how great it is until u use it
[14:08] <usr13> leave off the sudo  ionite
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> helo_: the command I gave will show the big users of the interface and may help
[14:09] <helo_> i'm the only user
[14:09] <helo_> but it will be good to know if it's a root process i suppose :/
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> ajin1: I can configure Linux at cli already, I don't need GUI apps to do nearly anything
[14:09] <usr13> ionite: tar xzvf /path/to/rtl8192se_linux_   #Hit tab key for auto-completion
[14:09] <ServerTechLaptop> ActionParsnip, Output: Linux Server1 2.6.38-11-generic-pae #50-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 12 12:21:04 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[14:09] <ajin1> ActionParsnip: great!
[14:09] <Abhijit> hi.how to make mobile phone memory card mount as read/write. it is mounting default as read oonly. help!!!
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> helo_: that's fine, install and run ntop. I can't make it any clearer
[14:09] <ionite> usr13: ok.
[14:09] <usr13> ionite: tar xzvf Downloads/rtl8192se_linux_   #Hit tab key for auto-completion
[14:09] <qwer> running ubuntu 10.04 and tying to start pidgin automatically in desktop-No4 when starting up ... how to do that ??
[14:10] <reya276> How can I fix this issue http://pastebin.com/Z5pDBGNS ?
[14:10] <ajin1> i'm still A newbie
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> ServerTechLaptop: hmm, you have the PAE kernel.Do you have onboard graphics?
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> qwer: compiz can do that, there is also devilspie (grab gdevilspie from google code) which can tell apps how to run and such
[14:10] <ServerTechLaptop> ActionParsnip, yes i do. I don't use it though. I have an nVidia card.
[14:10] <ionite> usr13: ok
[14:10] <usr13> ionite: Did you get it unpacked?
[14:11] <ionite> usr13: yep
[14:11] <usr13> If so, cd to the resulting directory.
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> ServerTechLaptop: did you diable the onboard in the BIOS or do you use the onboard?
[14:11] <usr13> cd rtl8192se_linux_2.6.    #Hit tab key for auto-completion
[14:11] <ServerTechLaptop> ActionParsnip, disabled in the BIOS.
[14:12] <ionite> usr13: ok i'm at step 9 now
[14:12] <ajin1> ActionParsnip: how long have you been using linux as your sole OS?
[14:12] <ionite> usr13: sorry i mean step 8. it's still making
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> ServerTechLaptop: I'd double check in BIOS. You may want to try a 64bit live CD to see if it sees all the RAM
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> ajin1: since 2000/2001 ish
[14:13] <usr13> ionite: Be patient, let it finish.
[14:13] <usr13> and then:  sudo cp HAL/rtl8192/r8192se_pci.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/
[14:13] <ServerTechLaptop> ActionParsnip, can't. P4EE's don't support 64. Or else i would have.
[14:13] <ionite> usr13: ok.
[14:13] <ajin1> ActionParsnip: no wonder
[14:13] <ionite> usr13: now i just done step 9 and 10
[14:13] <qwer> ActionParsnip: I will need to configure compiz with CCSM ??
[14:13] <usr13> yes
[14:14] <ionite> usr13: so i gotta restart yeah?
[14:14] <qwer> usr13: to me ?
[14:14] <usr13> did you do  sudo depmod -a  ?
[14:14] <ionite> phlak_user: u there? thanks so much for ur help. i'm gonna restart and hope it works.
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> ServerTechLaptop: dang, Those EEs are nice!
[14:14] <ionite> usr13: yes i did. i'm gonna restart now.
[14:14] <usr13> qwer: Sorry, that was for ionite
[14:14] <usr13> ionite: iwconfig
[14:14] <ServerTechLaptop> ActionParsnip, :P. Well they don't support 64.
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> qwer: I'd ask in #compiz but I know it can, maybe others can advise here too. I've not used it in that way
[14:14] <usr13> ionite: Yes, restart and see if it works.
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> ServerTechLaptop: true :( have you tested your RAM health
[14:15] <qwer> okay, thx
[14:15] <ServerTechLaptop> ActionParsnip, new ram, purchased 3 days ago.
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> ServerTechLaptop: can be DOA
[14:15] <ServerTechLaptop> ActionParsnip, doa?
[14:15] <bastidrazor> dead on arrival
[14:16] <usr13> I gotta go now.  Enjoyed it.  Thanks all (for putting up with me)  ;0
[14:16] <ServerTechLaptop> lawl no, ActionParsnip, they're perfectly fine. :P
[14:16] <ServerTechLaptop> or i could just test each stick one by one... long task-,-
[14:17] <dr_willis> How do you prove they are not DOA?  you have to test each one..
[14:17] <dr_willis> Ive had Memory slots  on the mb go 'bad' also.
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> ServerTechLaptop: so you have tested them?
[14:17] <ServerTechLaptop> dr_willis, I used 2.5 gigs till yesterday, and i added 1 new gig. All 4 ports are working fine too.
[14:17] <ServerTechLaptop> ActionParsnip, ^^
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> ServerTechLaptop: the memtest will test the whole lot
[14:17] <ServerTechLaptop> hold on, ill start memtest.
[14:17] <dr_willis> they can go bad at any time..
[14:18] <dr_willis> 3.5 gb in 4 slots? Hmm.
[14:18] <dr_willis> ages ago memory had to match. :) but i think thats showing my age.
[14:18] <Abhijit_> hi.how to make mobile phone memory card mount as read/write. it is mounting default as read oonly. help!!!
[14:18] <ionite> phlak_user: still can't work
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: 3x1gb and 1x512mb ram sticks
[14:18] <ionite> ActionParsnip: usr13 is gone?
[14:18] <ServerTechLaptop> dr_willis, old motherboard, D:
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> ionite: seems so
[14:19] <grkblood> I installed 10.10 64-bit and I got prompted to install additional drivers for my video card. I installed the additional drivers and now my laptop locks up at "checking battery state..." when booting up
[14:19] <dr_willis> Abhijit_:  try accessing it as root.. see if root can write to it. if so. you can make a fstab entry, or install/run ntfs-config to make it accessable by all users.
[14:19] <ionite> ActionParsnip: oh no. it still didn't work.
[14:19] <Abhijit_> dr_willis, tried with root. no luck.
[14:19] <dr_willis> ages ago you had to have pairs..  :)
[14:19] <ionite> phlak_user: it still didn't work should i reinstall my entire OS?
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> grkblood: boot to root recovery mode and reinstall gnome-power-manager
[14:19] <Abhijit_> dr_willis, tried with sudo mount -o remount, rw '/media/1234-5678/' still no luck
[14:19] <dr_willis> Abhijit_:  so its mounted but not writeable but is readable? check dmesg output for any error messages perhaps.
[14:20] <Abhijit_> dr_willis, shoud i pastebin the dmsg output?
[14:20] <dr_willis> Abhijit_:  just try to write to it as  the root user. not remounting it. :)
[14:20] <dr_willis> cd /media/whatever   sudo touch testfile
[14:20] <Abhijit_> dr_willis, tired to write to it using root using cp. no luck.
[14:20] <ServerTechLaptop> ActionParsnip, okay so even the bios shows only 3071mb, possible memory slot problem, will have to recheck everything.
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> ServerTechLaptop: ;)
[14:20] <Solved> Is there any way to sudo apt-get install (file) for your regular Ubuntu partition, while booted up from live CD?
[14:20] <ServerTechLaptop> ActionParsnip, still gonna run a memtest.
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> ServerTechLaptop: if you get hardware issues, check the hardware  first
[14:21] <dr_willis> Solved:  chroot into the install. use apt as normal.
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> ServerTechLaptop: may need a BIOS update to get more rAM accessible
[14:21] <Solved> dr_willis: what do you mean by chroot into the install
[14:21] <grkblood> ActionParsnip, i dont think my build is making it to grub
[14:21] <Abhijit_> dr_willis, will touch work for folder?
[14:21] <dr_willis> Solved:  use the chroot command as needed to get into a chroot envuroment.
[14:21] <grkblood> could i do anything with boot options?
[14:21] <ServerTechLaptop> ActionParsnip, i know, lol this bios is old. Though i don't find a proper update to flash it with o.O
[14:21] <dr_willis> Abhijit_:  touch sets the date, or creates a file  normally.  its just a simple test.
[14:21] <Solved> dr_willis: So like, chroot /dev/sda5 ?
[14:22] <Abhijit_> okies
[14:22] <dr_willis> Solved:  you will want to read up on chroot.. you chroot into a Mountpoint.. not a device like that.
[14:22] <dr_willis> chroot /media/THeRootOfTheInstalledSystem
[14:22] <Abhijit_> dr_willis, the command sudo touch testfile just worked. but no output seen.
[14:23] <Solved> dr_willis: I don't really know much about Ubuntu. I just need to get a single file which will make it stop freezing everytime I boot up normally
[14:23] <dr_willis> Abhijit_:  so somtign is odd.. you made a file. AN empty one.. :) but still a file
[14:23] <dr_willis> Solved:  'get' a file?
[14:23] <helo_> strange... 1MB/sec of dhcp discover/offer tradffic
[14:24] <Abhijit_> dr_willis, okies. but how can we solve this?
[14:24] <Solved> dr_willis: I need to apt-get ubuntu-desktop, but I can't do it from regular boot up or it freezes before I can
[14:24] <dr_willis> Abhijit_:  does cp give some error? or just says read only? if the thing is having read/write errors. it may become read-only to prevent damage.