[18:13] <zaki> pavlushka_, you've got a tail :P
[18:13] <pavlushka> zaki: ty :)
[18:14] <pavlushka> zaki: and good to see you :)
[18:14] <zaki> :)
[18:14] <pavlushka> zaki: so anything interesting up?
[18:18] <zaki> nah pavlushka not much
[18:18] <pavlushka> zaki: me too
[18:41] <pavlushka> zaki: have you ever though about the windows kernel?
[18:41] <pavlushka> zaki: about what type of kernel it is?
[18:42] <zaki> no. :|
[18:42] <zaki> not much
[18:42] <zaki> you reading ?
[18:43] <pavlushka> zaki: Linux is unix like kernel but monolithic
[18:43] <pavlushka> zaki: but Unix itself is of various type monolithic, microkernel, hybrid
[18:44] <zaki> and windows?
[18:46] <pavlushka> zaki: wikipedia says currently   Windows NT family: Hybrid   Windows CE: Hybrid   Windows 9x and earlier: Monolithic (MS-DOS)
[18:47] <pavlushka> zaki: that means now windows is hybrid but previously was monolithic at a time around
[18:48] <pavlushka> zaki: the term hybrid defines as mixture of the goodness of microkernel and monolithic kernel
[18:52] <pavlushka> zaki: but funny it is that the hybrid kernel represents mostly of monolithic behavior, that is to say actually monolithic
[18:53] <pavlushka> zaki: not much essence of a microkernel in hybrids (some says it's just a marketing hoax)
[18:54] <zaki> so which one better ?
[18:57] <pavlushka> zaki: seems like there is only one thing available, monolithic kernel and monolithic kernels disguised as hybrid :p
[18:57] <zaki> he he
[18:58] <pavlushka> zaki: a working microkernel is yet to achieve
[18:58] <zaki> and micro kernel ?
[18:58] <zaki> oh
[19:00] <pavlushka> zaki: which you can deploy in production level, that kind of micro kernel has not been developed yet, It's still a work in progress / theory
[19:02] <pavlushka> zaki: and most discussed one on fsf world is GNU/HURD
[19:02] <pavlushka> microkernel
[19:04] <zaki> https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd.html ?
[19:04] <pavlushka> zaki: one I downloaded a debian gnu hurd as VM image but it failed to find my keyboard and mouse, so rendering it useless. and then my HDD crashed for 2nd time and again I lost my all work, the HDD was of WD and was relatively new
[19:04] <u-la-la> [ hurd ] - https://www.gnu.org
[19:04] <pavlushka> s/one/once
[19:04] <u-la-la> pavlushka meant to say: zaki: once I downloaded a debian gnu hurd as VM image but it failed to find my keyboard and mouse, so rendering it useless. and then my HDD crashed for 2nd time and again I lost my all work, the HDD was of WD and was relatively new
[19:06] <zaki> HDD crashed because of that ?
[19:07] <pavlushka> zaki: lol I dont know but may be :p
[19:07] <zaki> oh :D
[19:09] <zaki> pavlushka, https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd.html
[19:09] <u-la-la> [ hurd ] - https://www.gnu.org
[19:09] <zaki> that one?
[19:10] <pavlushka> zaki: this one, https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd/running/debian.html
[19:10] <u-la-la> [ Debian GNU/Hurd ] - https://www.gnu.org
[19:12] <pavlushka> zaki: around 400 MB of tar compressed image, decompressed size is around 4GB
[20:05] <zaki> good night pavlushka :)
[21:37] <pavlushka> Debian GNU Hurd is working on my VM


[00:01] <guiverc> ack & :)   I can use a mantic on my dc7700 with it awhile instead of this box
[00:09] <tsimonq2_ephemer> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/qt6-mantic
[00:09] <tsimonq2_ephemer> If this builds locally, we'll have Stage 0 complete
[00:21] <tsimonq2_ephemer> bug 2028813
[00:21] -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Bug 2028813 in Ubuntu "[ITP] LXQt 2 Alpha" [Wishlist, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2028813
[00:25] <tsimonq2_ephemer> teward: why this show as private https://git.lubuntu.me/Lubuntu/lxqt2-build-tools/settings
[00:26] <tsimonq2_ephemer> nvm
[00:26] <tsimonq2_ephemer> okay
[00:26] <tsimonq2_ephemer> soooo
[00:26] <tsimonq2_ephemer> we should have LXQt 2 in this PPA soon, stage one just needs to go through publishing
[00:27] <tsimonq2_ephemer> Backports Staging just had its build publish. Cool.
[00:30] <tsimonq2_ephemer> I should at least be able to get libqtxdg uploaded to Staging before I jet for a bit.
 I think it was just a publishing race condition
 I wasn't able to build it locally before I left
[01:17] <guiverc> tsimonq2_ephemer, is ^ lxqt 1.3  reading for testing in backport-staging?
[03:29] <tsimonq2_ephemer> guiverc: Working on it. The base is.
[03:30] <guiverc> for jammy; you're wanting QA in jammy?  (I was thinking mantic for whatever reason)
[03:36] <tsimonq2_ephemer> Mantic should have Qt 6 builds soon enough. As I'm coming to discover, Jammy doesn't have builds because lxqt-build-tools has a runtime dependency on a newer version of glibc. Whoops.
[03:36] <guiverc> :|
[03:40] <tsimonq2_ephemer> I
[03:40] <tsimonq2_ephemer> *I'd say give it 12-24 hours.
[03:41] <guiverc> ack & thanks tsimonq2_ephemer
[03:41]  * tsimonq2_ephemer potentially falls off IRC
 wxl: hey
 wxl: https://events.canonical.com/event/31/registrations/27/ submit this and register as an in person regis..tree
 wxl: I'll do the same then we both get sponsorship
 honestly just glad scale is no longer at the lax hilton even if it is a bit farther from my house because that place had next to no food options while the pasadena convention center at least has good food options
[19:33] <wxl> @tsimonq2 done
[19:37]  * tsimonq2_irssi waves
[19:37] <tsimonq2_irssi> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libfm-qt/1.3.0-0ubuntu1
[19:38] <tsimonq2_irssi> Looks like we have that through Binary NEW. I'll continue the next archive uploads prior to more Backports/Qt 6.
[19:38] <tsimonq2_irssi> wxl: ta
 *drops a live flashbang into tsimonq2's pants*
 sandbox doesnt have a hostname tied to it i'll update the dns
 or rather i'll have canonical update the dns
[21:46] <tsimonq2_irssi> So, full mirroring from GiTea to Launchpad and GitHub is set up.
[21:46] <tsimonq2_irssi> Next will be getting those following packages into the archive. Hopefully no more NEW.
[21:47] <tsimonq2> This is... interesting. Something caught up.


[21:39] <PCLine_> Good evening everyone....and thanks Unit193
[21:39] <Unit193> Howdy.
[21:42] <PCLine_> After we talked about Firfox Sync  I stopped today when I came across ownCloud.  It might take care of the Calendar and syncing all in 1 program
[21:45] <Unit193> Ah, yeah.
[21:47] <PCLine_> I am going to try it tonight.
[21:47] <PCLine_> it looks like its not in apt-get so that will be new for me also.
[21:50] <Unit193> No.
[21:50] <Unit193> But, in theory you can use their repos. :P
[21:54] <PCLine_> I was looking at this.... http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-owncloud-on-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr.html
[21:54] <jenni> [ Install Owncloud on Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) | Ubuntu Geek ] - https://j.mp/1xszkvP


 @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> @ctisme I can't help you, because I don't use screensavers and I am …], no worries @aptghetto  looks like xscreensaver needed by lubuntu-desktop
 btw is it ok to remove lubuntu-desktop package ?
 you *can* but if you attempt to do future in-place upgrades it may barf
 because the metapackage is how you handle dependency changes between what apps are shipped in which releases, etc.
 I have an Appimage file. How do I run it in eoan?
 @The_LoudSpeaker the same way you'd make any executable run?
 `chmod +x` it
 then execute it as `./AppImageFile.AppImage`
 Okay.
 Thanks!
 https://askubuntu.com/questions/774490/what-is-an-appimage-how-do-i-install-it  <— google found this in the top 3
 (for the future)
[20:50] <alps> i have 4540s Hp notebook... i have try 14.04 lubuntu and there is a no error when i open the pc.. After i install 19.04 lubuntu, i got error when i open pc.. i have try evertihing on bios... what i shud to do now ? is there any suggestion for me.... (And i m sorry, my english is bad)
[20:50] <wxl> what error?
[20:51] <alps> operation system not found
[20:51] <wxl> did you do the "check disc for defects" at the boot menu before installing?
[20:52] <alps> yess
[20:52] <alps> and result is passed
[21:00] <alps> i will try again...
 it supposed to be an fresh install, good luck alps
 it *is supposed to be *a fresh
[22:45] <paulo> oiii
[23:53] <Hunhow> Can anyone here point me to the Linux Mint IRC?
[23:54] <n-iCe> hi Hunhow
[23:54] <n-iCe> is not in this network
[23:54] <Hunhow> Uhm.. hi?
[23:54] <Hunhow> I know, hence why I’m asking if anyone can point me to that network where Linux Mint is
[23:55] <wxl> https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/12
[23:55] <n-iCe> Server: irc.spotchat.org
[23:55] <n-iCe> Channels: #linuxmint-help, #linuxmint-chat
[23:55] <n-iCe> those
[23:55] <Hunhow> Thank you
[23:55] <n-iCe> hi wxl, guess what I bought, a raspberry pi have you played with any ?
[23:55] <wxl> a bit
[23:55] <n-iCe> is amazing
[23:55] <n-iCe> bought two actually
[23:56] <Hunhow> Best way to start into Linux, besides maybe a VM
[23:56] <n-iCe> one is a retropie servern ow
[23:56] <n-iCe> Hunhow: old laptop :D
[23:56] <n-iCe> and this one is running raspbian wxl
[23:56] <n-iCe> is just amazing
[23:56] <wxl> neat
[23:57] <n-iCe> wxl: and how are you?
[23:57] <wxl> i'm n-iCe :)
[23:57]  * n-iCe laughs
[23:57] <n-iCe> nice to see you
[23:57] <wxl> and you
[23:57] <n-iCe> I was thinking in try de ubuntu rbpi image
[23:57] <n-iCe> it's my first day with the raspberry so I'm getting used to it
[23:58] <wxl> seen this? https://ubuntu-pi-flavour-maker.org/
[23:59] <n-iCe> reading


[08:27] <soshiant> i want link download repository for ubuntu trusty
[08:44] <kirvesAxe> soshiant, I think you are in the wrong channel, this is the Finnish speaking ubuntu channel. try /join #ubuntu-en
[08:48] <soshiant> kirvesAxe: thank's
[08:48] <soshiant> kirvesAxe: channel is invite only
[08:50] <kirvesAxe> that's funny, I joined there before tipping it to make sure it was the right one.
[08:51] <kirvesAxe> No invite was needed
[08:52] <soshiant> Cannot join #ubuntu-en (Channel is invite only)
[09:25] <hahlo> mitä kieltä ne käyttää #ubuntu kanavalla?
[09:49] <kirvesAxe> varmaan etelä-arfikaansia
[09:49] <hahlo> ok


[02:49] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[07:19] <marcoagpinto> Heya
[07:52] <ducasse> good morning
[13:22] <TJ-> Going to submit my kernel firmware patch for v5.16 to support the reduced initrd.img work I've been doing. Here's an overview using initramfs-tools with MODULES=most down to MODULES=dep with my PRUNE and FIRMWARE_LOADED on and off https://paste.debian.net/1217585/
[13:23] <TJ-> the patch affects the F=0 F=1 versions - quite a difference
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: cool, let us know the bug ID when you do
[14:10] <TJ-> next is to get my patches into initramfs-tools in Debian upstream
[18:45] <jcbjoe2021> Hi, sons windows computer takes about 6 mins to boot up then 10 mins to get to the desktop he doesn’t want to use it anymore I told him about Linux he said he will try it. Installed Ubuntu the kde which installed kubuntu. Kubuntu seems kinda slow to me. Should I go back to gnome and use gnome and install gnome tweaks to get everything kinda situated?
[18:46] <sarnold> what's the specs of the machine? it could be that a fast OS is just not in the cards for this computer
[18:47] <leftyfb> jcbjoe2021: did you try making sure you have the proper video drivers installed?
[18:47] <daftykins> strikes me as having the potential for a faulty HDD, query the SMART table for its' health status
[18:53] <jcbjoe2021> leftyfb: I just used the default whatever Ubuntu gave me. Is that wrong?
[18:54] <leftyfb> jcbjoe2021: open software and updates and go to drivers
[18:54] <jcbjoe2021> Ok leftyfb when I get home
[18:55] <leftyfb> jcbjoe2021: ok, please only ask for help when you have access to the machine for troubleshooting
[19:04] <cbreak> jcbjoe2021: I find kde faster than gnome here
[19:04] <cbreak> but there are much smaller / faster desktop environments for ubuntu
[19:05] <cbreak> like lubuntu or xubuntu https://ubuntu.com/download/flavours (haven't tried either myself)
[19:06] <daftykins> 1) system specs 2) hardware health
[19:07] <jcbjoe2021> Ok thanks leftyfb
[19:08] <cbreak> by default, ubuntu nowadays uses some gnome thing I think
[20:24] <Bashing-om> UWN: Issue707 on the streets: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue707 :D
[20:24] <sarnold> woot


[00:04] <LinDol> hi all
[00:17] <darkxst> hi LinDol
[00:17] <LinDol> good morning :)
[12:19] <darkxst> ricotz, I found the bug in PAM, ubuntu patches... probably only lightdm works properly
[12:20] <darkxst> and a can off worms, I think accountsservvice is also broken
[18:17] <Teta> Hi
[18:17] <Teta> i have a problem installing ubuntu gnome
[18:18] <Teta> ubuntu-gnome-15.10-desktop-amd64
[18:18] <Teta> When i try to use the live option, a lot of text scrolls and i see words like "error" or "failed"
[18:19] <Teta> Then, the logo and loading circle appears
[18:19] <Teta> (of ubuntu gnome)
[18:19] <Teta> then my computer reboots into windows 10.
[18:19] <Teta> someone helps?
[18:20] <Teta> ?


[08:06] <Simira> daf: why have you hidden all your bof stuff in a password-protected place? :p
[08:47] <SteveA> hi Simira
[08:48] <SteveA> all of the specs related to launchpad are going on the launchpad wiki, which is accessible only to canonical people
[08:48] <SteveA> it's not an ideal situation
[08:50] <SteveA> the reasons for this are that we already have a bunch of launchpad documentation on the "internal" wiki site, and some of the launchpad documentation will contain information that canonical doesn't want to make totally public right now.
[11:41] <Simira> daf: morning. Are you up and running yet?


[11:19] <gnomefreak> is there a reason why Thunderbird doesnt follow the same "rules" as other apps in Unity
[11:19] <gnomefreak> Thunderbird keeps the controls on the window, other apps put controls in the upper panel
[11:21] <gnomefreak> nevermind it seems gnome-terminal does the same, not sure why though
[15:48] <FernandoMiguel> boa tarde
[19:30] <chrisccoulson> hmmmmm, no m_conley yet?
[19:30] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: I'm here!
[19:30] <chrisccoulson> oh!
[19:30] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: I'm in Orlando. :)
[19:30] <chrisccoulson> hah
[19:30] <chrisccoulson> i didn't see your name there?
[19:30] <chrisccoulson> where are you?
[19:30] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: bwinton and I arrived an hour or so ago - we're in the Design Theatre talk in Bonaire 6.
[19:31] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: where are you?
[19:32] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, i'm in the python 3 session in bonaire 5
[19:32] <chrisccoulson> i'll pop in in a second ;)
[19:32] <micahg> chrisccoulson: since you're here in the python session, I noticed no dep on python for firefox, but I know it's used somewhere, is it only used to make the tarball?
[19:33] <chrisccoulson> micahg, yeah (and apport)
[19:33] <micahg> ok
[20:41] <bhearsum> how's UDS?


[02:32] <JoseeAntonioR> akgraner: for next uds I go to, you need to train me on how to interview
[07:07] <dholbach> good morning
[08:31] <akgraner> JoseeAntonioR, you got it - we can work on that now if you want