[07:21] <Badness45> in vlc too but how do i use the vlc
[07:21] <Badness45> when i go to dvd disc disc it doesn't play
[07:22] <goofrider> I love u all but I've had enough for the morning...
[07:22] <thundrcleeze> bye goofrider
[07:22] <goofrider> hope a made a diffrence for u all
[07:22] <goofrider> l8r
[07:24] <Badness45> karl it says no binary deb availble
[07:25] <karljp> isn't 64bit linux a blast
[07:25] <karljp> hope you're enjoying it :)
[07:25] <Badness45> i no right
[07:25] <karljp> if this is a fresh install
[07:26] <karljp> I'd seriously suggest junking it and just using 32bit
[07:26] <karljp> did you get your wireless working with ndis64 at all?
[07:26] <Badness45> i used a live cd yesterday maybe thats why
[07:26] <Badness45> nope no wireless
[07:26] <karljp> ahh, yeah, I couldn't get ndis to workon the livecd
[07:26] <karljp> worked first go once I'd isntalled
[07:26] <karljp> I need to go and put that back in the wiki
[07:27] <karljp> I did have a note abotu that but it's been removed
[07:27] <Badness45> xine says no mrl
[07:31] <Badness45> karl
[07:31] <Badness45> u there
[07:32] <mxpxpod> how would I find out what the horiz sync and vertrefresh values are for my ibook g4's lcd?
[07:33] <jeroen_> How do I search for (uninstalled) packagages using the command line?
[07:33] <JairunCaloth> mxpxpod: you might try the manufactures website
[07:33] <JairunCaloth> mxpxpod: or any documentation that came with your computer
[07:33] <HappyFool> jeroen_: apt-cache search
[07:33] <mxpxpod> JairunCaloth: hmm
[07:34] <jeroen_> mxpxpod, if Ubuntu detected this, just check the xorg.conf
[07:34] <HappyFool> jeroen_: try also apt-cache search --names-only
[07:34] <mxpxpod> jeroen_: I used an old config
[07:34] <Badness45> how do i install libdvdcss
[07:34] <jeroen_> HappyFool, thanks
[07:35] <HappyFool> Badness45: 'sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2' ?
[07:35] <guruyaya> Hi, someone knows where can I find codecs, to see video from totem player
[07:35] <guruyaya> ?
[07:36] <jeroen_> libdvdcss2
[07:36] <Pappa> marillat apt repos
[07:36] <jeroen_> see the wiki on restricted formats
[07:36] <HappyFool> guruyaya: this page might help: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:36] <HappyFool> try also http://ubuntuguide.org
[07:36] <Behemoth> guruyaya, sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[07:36] <jeroen_> Behemoth, that's not enough for dvd playback
[07:36] <guruyaya> Ahha.
[07:37] <Behemoth> jeroen_, libdvdcss2 too then
[07:37] <Pappa> i'm having trouble with the special characters "  ".. they shop up as garbage on my friends box
[07:38] <Behemoth> Is DIVX codec included in w32codecs?
[07:38] <Madcat> I noticed it too that unicode characters aren't working correctly in ubuntu ...
[07:38] <Pappa> using aterm. with gnome-terminal they work, but pressing "f" in gnome-terminal brings up help. very annoying.
[07:38] <kent> Pappa, perhaps your friends box is not using UTF?  (not knowing that much about the problem,  this might be the cause..)
[07:39] <Madcat> Shouldn't UTF stuff be enabled by default ?
[07:39] <Pappa> unicode? they are in 8859-1* and ascii > num 127
[07:39] <HappyFool> Behemoth: well, there are several files that look divx related (divx.dll, e.g.) in that package
[07:39] <guruyaya> didn`t find the codecs,
[07:39] <guruyaya> I`ll search it again
[07:40] <HappyFool> guruyaya: read the wiki page and ubuntuguide.org
[07:40] <HappyFool> they have complete and fairly straightforward instructions
[07:41] <guruyaya> ok
[07:41] <guruyaya> Thanks
[07:43] <Badness45> it says libdvdcss2 not availble
[07:43] <jeroen_> Badness45, libdvdcss2 is not in Ubuntu repos
[07:43] <Badness45> ok in the xine dvd it say i have ti install
[07:43] <HappyFool> Badness45: you have marillat /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[07:43] <orathon> hey do anyone know a very good media player for playing mp3's ??? xmms just stops when i try to play the mp3 and totem movie player gives a stream error
[07:43] <Badness45> libdvdcss
[07:44] <goldfish> orathon: mp3blaster
[07:44] <jeroen_> orathon: see the wiki on restrictedformats
[07:44] <goldfish> orathon: its console based
[07:44] <karljp> anyone know what can be done to prevent this sort of thing happening?
[07:44] <karljp> cp: reading `2004_08_29 - Iron Mountain and climbing with Katie/CRW_6108.CRW': Input/output error
[07:45] <karljp> is there some sort of fsck that can be run that will mark certain sectors as not to be used?
[07:45] <Badness45> i dont no
[07:45] <Badness45> where can i get libdvdcss
[07:45] <orathon> when iam trying to install mp3 blaster it gives me a warning that the pagace cannot be verificated...
[07:45] <orathon> package*
[07:46] <orathon> badness45: try  "sudo apt-get install libdvdcss"
[07:47] <Badness45> it says not availble
[07:47] <orathon> hmm
[07:47] <Badness45> but is referred to another package
[07:47] <Badness45> package has no installation candidate
[07:47] <jeroen_> What are the names I need to use for backports and hoary when apt-pinning?
[07:48] <alejandro_ricove> there is way i can put my terminal integrated to the background of my desktop ?? any help will be useful ..thx
[07:49] <HappyFool> Badness45: have you followed the instructions on ubuntuguide.org ?
[07:49] <goldfish> alejandro_ricove: are u using gnome ?
[07:50] <alejandro_ricove> ubuntu comes with gnome 2.10 doesnt it ?? i hace gnome ..i know that at least ..
[07:50] <orathon> hmm any other good mp3 player??
[07:50] <ivoks> alejandro_ricove yes, there is, hit ctrl alt f1
[07:50] <jeroen_> any expert apt-pinners here? ;)
[07:52] <alejandro_ricove> nope ...thx anyway but that is the console mode ..it is not what im looking ,,,but thanks
[07:52] <Behemoth> can someone tell me with a little apt-get install problem I cant seem to be able to install mplayer-386 (following ubuntuguide.org)
[07:52] <Scorpinf> i got a microsoft mouse, with 4 buttons + scroller, how can i add functionality to the mouse in ubuntu? it only supports 2 buttons
[07:52] <g14> alejandro_ricove, open up synaptic and search for root-tail. That is what you are looking for
[07:52] <goldfish> alejandro_ricove: there is root-tail, which sites on your background, but it's for tailing files in a terminal..
[07:53] <goldfish> heh
[07:53] <goldfish> I think u have ti remove your wallpaper for it to work on gnome
[07:53] <goldfish> *To
[07:53] <Behemoth> can someone help me with a little apt-get install problem? I cant seem to be able to install mplayer-386 (following ubuntuguide.org)
[07:54] <alejandro_ricove> apt-get install root-tail ??
[07:54] <simple_> i need help with installing ndiswrapper, i get an error 2 when i try, i'm using kubuntu 5.04 install
[07:55] <simple_> make [1]  : leave dir 'home/simple/ndiswrapper-0.11/driver'
[07:55] <simple_>  make *** [install]  error 2
[07:55] <simple_> that
[07:55] <Behemoth> can someone help me with a little apt-get install problem? I cant seem to be able to install mplayer-386 (following ubuntuguide.org) it says package has unresolvable dependencies
[07:55] <jeroen_> Behemoth, try to resolve the dependancies manually
[07:56] <g14> alejandro_ricove, yeah that should do it
[07:56] <Scorpinf> i got a microsoft mouse, with 4 buttons + scroller, how can i add functionality to the mouse in ubuntu? it only supports 2 buttons
[07:56] <Behemoth> jeroen_, just install dependency packages one by one?
[07:56] <alejandro_ricove> all right ... i just done it ... how do i exceute it ??
[07:57] <dcraven> Behemoth: I'd suggest losing the merrillat part of your sources.list and using the version in multi/universe.
[07:57] <matthew> hello to all
[07:57] <Scorpinf> any cool games that i can install on ubuntu?
[07:57] <g14> alejandro_ricove, dpkg -L | grep bin
[07:57] <g14> alejandro_ricove, that will tell you all of the binaries it installs
[07:57] <g14> alejandro_ricove, sorry, dpkg -L root-tail | grep bin
[07:58] <Behemoth> dcraven, can u explain what you mean? (sorry noob here)
[07:58] <matthew> has anyone worked with gpe and ubuntu
[07:58] <alejandro_ricove> /usr/bin
[07:58] <alejandro_ricove> /usr/bin/root-tail
[07:58] <jeroen_> Behemoth, yeah, I guess so
[07:59] <Behemoth> dcraven, deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat stable main only leave this in sources.list?
[07:59] <g14> alejandro_ricove, root-tail
[07:59] <matthew> I just setup gpe on an ipac 3835
[07:59] <matthew> now I am trying to sync with ubuntu
[07:59] <alejandro_ricove> You did not specify any files to tail
[08:00] <alejandro_ricove> what is file tailing anyway ?? what file do i have to specify for "tailing" ??
[08:00] <matthew> I think the best way would be with the usb cable and not even try with the serial cable -- any opinions?
[08:01] <HappyFool> tailing means to show the last bit, updating as the file changes
[08:01] <HappyFool> try 'root-tail /var/log/syslog' or something like that
[08:01] <dcraven> Behemoth: I'd comment that line out by putting a '#' in front of it. I think the guide also added the universe and multiverse repositorys. mplayer is in there.
[08:02] <eSPete> how do i get danish keyb-layout in Xfce, i had it in gnome...
[08:02] <waterbeetle> I have a laptop with ATI radeon mobility U1 graphics card and am trying to configure TV-out.  I looked at the wiki, couldn't find much, also downloaded atitvout, but it doesn't seem to do anything.  any ideas?
[08:03] <alejandro_ricove> ok thx ... sorry if i sounded rude sometime ... :P:P
[08:03] <Behemoth> dcraven, so what do I leave in there only original lines or only multiverse or universe?
[08:03] <mxpxpod> how do I boot into single user mode in ubuntu?
[08:04] <alejandro_ricove> im noob ..i have used windows for almost 20 years and i started to use linux about a week ago ...and you know what ? i fell in love with it :D:D:D
[08:04] <simple_> makeinstall error 2 ndiswrapper?
[08:04] <matthew> that is great alejandro
[08:04] <matthew> I am new as well
[08:04] <matthew> and really excited
[08:04] <mxpxpod> I messed up my xorg.conf and now when gdm starts, it freezes
[08:05] <mxpxpod> so I need to boot so gdm doesn't start
[08:05] <alejandro_ricove> it is really catchy for me this os :):)
[08:05] <dcraven> Behemoth: Original lines plus universe plus multivers. Do as the guide says, but just comment out the marillat lines.
[08:05] <alejandro_ricove> all right ...somebody can give me a short explanation of whats is root-tail and how/why to use it ?? :$:$
[08:05] <Behemoth> dcraven, ok will do
[08:07] <JairunCaloth> is xwine useful?
[08:07] <PoTs> Is there somewhere a howto to install ubuntu on a dual boot laptop?
[08:08] <pommes> I 'm M$ free for one day, I 'm enjoying it
[08:08] <matthew> does anyone think that evolution oneday will sync well with pda
[08:08] <alejandro_ricove> all right ...somebody can give me a short explanation of whats is root-tail and how/why to use it ?? :$:$
[08:08] <matthew> version 2.1.1
[08:08] <Nalioth> i welcome all of you folks who've slipped the chains of microsloth
[08:08] <matthew> thanks Nalioth
[08:08] <wezzer-> hello :)
[08:09] <cmg_> is anyone using SciTE (editor) with Ubuntu Hoary?  I grabbed it from Synaptic, and there are probs
[08:09] <matthew> if I could only find a strong Open CRM I would be totally amazed
[08:09] <HappyFool> alejandro_ricove: according to the package description, root-tail displays a file on the X root window (i.e., on the 'background')
[08:09] <HappyFool> so it will presumably scroll, e.g., a log file on your background
[08:09] <waterbeetle> PoTs, there are lots of howtos on dual booting linux/windows...  You should partition and put the win system on first, then ubuntu.  try googling dual boot linux
[08:10] <alejandro_ricove> i see...and there is any website with detailed info about it ?? :):)
[08:10] <Behemoth> dcraven, I removed marilat and now mplayer is not even in the tree
[08:10] <PoTs> waterbeetle: I know how to install debian, will installing ubuntu give any probs?
[08:10] <dcraven> Behemoth: You have the multiverse and universe lines in your sources.list file?
[08:11] <waterbeetle> PoTs, ubuntu was a very install, i don't see why there would be problems
[08:11] <Behemoth> dcraven, doh missing multiverse
[08:11] <dcraven> Behemoth: :)
[08:11] <eSPete> how do i get danish keyb-layout in Xfce, i had it in gnome...
[08:11] <dcraven> Behemoth: It's in multiverse due to license issues with certain media formats.
[08:11] <cmg_> btw, what is in multiverse?  i currently only use universe and the reg repository
[08:11] <matthew> what is the best way to do remote assitance from an ubuntu machine to another ubuntu machine
[08:12] <waterbeetle> I have a laptop with ATI radeon mobility U1 graphics card and am trying to configure TV-out.  I looked at the wiki, couldn't find much, also downloaded atitvout, but it doesn't seem to do anything.  any ideas?
[08:12] <Behemoth> dcraven, wich ones?
[08:12] <HappyFool> alejandro_ricove: try 'man root-tail' in a terminal to read some info about it
[08:13] <HappyFool> it doesn't seem to work here, even if i switch off the background image
[08:13] <dcraven> Behemoth: Which formats? Pretty much all of them except ogg.. haha
[08:13] <Behemoth> dcraven, LOL ok :D ok it worked Mplayer is installed
[08:13] <PoTs> waterbeetle: Thanks, I'll let you know how everything goes :)
[08:14] <cmg_> does anyone use SciTE editor with Ubuntu?
[08:14] <dcraven> Behemoth: Cool.
[08:14] <Dreamer3> i hosed the ownership of /var... how can i find out the correct permissions and reset everything?
[08:14] <Behemoth> dcraven, it there a package with Mplayer skins? or I just have to download them manually?
[08:14] <alejandro_ricove> as i understand now... root-tail is an application that displays a file to the x11 root windows (desktop i supposed)
[08:14] <waterbeetle> PoTs, you've done debian, use cfdisk to partition... setup the hardisks for linux, win, and swap... etc..
[08:15] <dcraven> Behemoth: I dunno. I don't even use mplayer.
[08:15] <shido6> if I loose mouse connectivity can I run gpm again?
[08:15] <alejandro_ricove> but it only displays files ?? can i use it as a terminal ??
[08:15] <mxpxpod> no one knows how to keep gdm from running on boot?
[08:15] <waterbeetle> PoTs, ubuntu will recognize the harddisks..
[08:15] <Behemoth> dcraven, ohok, what do you use if it's not a secret
[08:15] <dcraven> Behemoth: I just know of the conflicts with it regarding merillat.
[08:15] <JGL> I'm having problems setting up repositories...  I'm gettin error - "W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907" on last 3 repos
[08:15] <dcraven> Behemoth: I use totem.
[08:15] <goldfish> alejandro_ricove: it will display the files in a terminal
[08:15] <dcraven> Behemoth: But don't tell anybody. ;)
[08:15] <goldfish> alejandro_ricove: but u cant enter commands in it
[08:16] <goldfish> alejandro_ricove: why dont u get some transparency
[08:16] <goldfish> and leave a transparent terminal
[08:16] <goldfish> and use that
[08:16] <alejandro_ricove> im doing that from some minutes ago .. :P
[08:16] <HappyFool> Dreamer3: dunno. think you might be a bit screwed. different packages own different pieces of /var, afaict
[08:16] <waterbeetle> mxpxpod, I just learned the command CTRL-ALT-F1 today, which toggles to a prompt, you may try that after boot?
[08:16] <goldfish> heh
[08:16] <Dreamer3> HappyFool: i know it's not simple
[08:16] <dcraven> Behemoth: totem-xine to be more precise.
[08:17] <Dreamer3> HappyFool: but it's linux, it still kinda works, and i know it's fixable
[08:17] <HappyFool> heh
[08:17] <JairunCaloth> I guess I'm not supposed to use wine
[08:17] <HappyFool> i guess i could ls -lR /var and put it in a paste-bin for you ;)
[08:17] <Dreamer3> can anyone help me troubleshoot a VERY annoying firefox problem?
[08:17] <thundrcleeze> JairunCaloth, you're having trouble with wine too?
[08:17] <JairunCaloth> yes
[08:17] <thundrcleeze> what's your problem?
[08:18] <JairunCaloth> My problem is that I'm reading from an NTFS drive
[08:18] <JGL> can anyone help me with this repository gpg thing?
[08:19] <Florob> JGL: which repository gpg thing?
[08:19] <JGL> I'm having problems setting up repositories...  I'm gettin error - "W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907" on last 3 repos
[08:19] <JairunCaloth> I guess if I can't have full rw access I need to learn to use the winelib instead of just reading straight from the hdd
[08:20] <HappyFool> there's a wiki page with an example of how to add the marillat key
[08:20] <JGL> happyfool: i didn't see one, r u sure?
[08:20] <HappyFool> yip
[08:20] <HappyFool> one second
[08:21] <JairunCaloth> jgl: check out this page
[08:21] <JairunCaloth> http://ubuntuguide.org/
[08:21] <HappyFool> i'm on dial and apt-get upgrade is chewing up my bandwidth ;)
[08:21] <Behemoth> what output plugin should I use in XMMS to make it work?
[08:21] <JairunCaloth> got me on my feet and running in notime
[08:22] <HappyFool> JGL: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary
[08:22] <JGL> happyfool: thnks, i'm readin it now...
[08:23] <waterbeetle> what are some of the chat channels on ubuntu?
[08:23] <HappyFool> well, this is one ;)
[08:23] <Florob> JGL: For the "quick" fix, this are the relevant commands:  `gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907; gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -`
[08:24] <thundrcleeze> Yeah, you can't have read/write yet with NTFS, at least not in a practical manner
[08:24] <Behemoth> can someone help me please? totem is able to play sound and system sounds are working too but everything else doesnt XMMS hangs when I loan and mp3 and in Audacity there are no selectable playback/recorder devices, what can cause that?
[08:25] <Behemoth> load*
[08:25] <thundrcleeze> JairunCaloth, I'm trying to play red alert through wine.  Since it's old, I didn't think there'd be too many problems
[08:25] <JairunCaloth> thundercleeze: I have windoze installed on a 40 gig HDD, and I popped in a little 3 gig to put ubuntu on. So bringing all my programs over isn't really a viable option either
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> unless I ported everything over, and just quit usuing winows so I could make room on the 40 gig
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> Games don't seem to work very well under wine, I havn't acctualy tried to run any yet
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> I'm just trying to get a working solution going
[08:26] <BitchX> how do you set screen resolution to higher than 800x600?
[08:27] <BitchX> is there a way to restart the X configuration?
[08:27] <HappyFool> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:27] <HappyFool> assuming you're on hoary
[08:27] <thundrcleeze> JairunCaloth, I've been told that ra works fine.  As for your problem, I guess the only way would be to reformat your drive for fat32 or something linux can read/write.
[08:28] <Behemoth> can someone help me please? totem is able to play sound and system sounds are working too but everything else doesnt, XMMS hangs when I load an mp3 and in Audacity there are no selectable playback/recorder devices, what can cause that?
[08:28] <nanot3ch> JairunCaloth: Under regular Wine games won't run well...you need Transgaming Cedega with full DirectX emulation for best gaming performance :)
[08:29] <thundrcleeze> nanot3ch, actually, that was for me.
[08:29] <JairunCaloth> thundrcleeze: yea, i've been planning on formatting my windows drive. not too happy with the idea of having to use fat32
[08:29] <nanot3ch> thundrcleeze: Oh, whoops :P
[08:29] <thundrcleeze> JairunCaloth, yeah.  Get ready to defrag every day.
[08:30] <Florob> JairunCaloth: Well, you can read and write ext3 from windows if that's any help (and you can read NTFS from linux very well)
[08:30] <nanot3ch> Behemoth: I think a problem with XMMS is that you need to use the ESD outpout instead of ALSA...I remember reading something about that...
[08:30] <JairunCaloth> thundrcleeze: RA is listed as working under wine.
[08:30] <levander> I just did the security update for firefox and now, when I download a file from sourceforge to a filename that already exists on the filesystem, firefox renames it to a very strange name.
[08:30] <levander> Anybody else get this?
[08:30] <JGL> happyfool: I got it right, thanks
[08:30] <JGL> bye
[08:31] <JairunCaloth> florob: I've already got my NTFS drive setup to read, I just need good RW access so I can run wine programs
[08:31] <Behemoth> nanot3ch, I dont even have ESD in output options
[08:32] <deejaykay> I am basically a Linux newb and I just installed Hoary 5.04
[08:32] <deejaykay> I have been trying for a while to get mp3 support for Rhythmbox, and the directions on the wiki here http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats is insufficient.
[08:32] <deejaykay> I know that I need (1) the gstreamer0.8-mad package from the Hoary Hedgehog universe repository, but I cant seem to find it there. (2) when trying to install other mp3 related packages, I get an error: "Depends: libid3tag0 (>=0.15.0b) but it is not installable"
[08:32] <deejaykay> Are there updated directions for this problem?
[08:32] <levander> When I download jdo-2.0-snapshot.jar twice, the 2nd one, Firefox is renaming to jdo-3.0-snapshot.jar.  It's not supposed to do that is it?
[08:32] <nanot3ch> Behemoth: ...uhh...hmm...I dont have the same problem then...I installed all the extra codecs and stuff though, maybe thats a problem?
[08:33] <nanot3ch> levander: ...lemme test then, one sec.
[08:33] <Behemoth> nanot3ch, I did the same ... oh well screw XMMS then :D Ill use totem ... any ideas for Audacity?
[08:33] <Florob> JairunCaloth: trust me you don't want to use wine, there is a linux equivalent for every windows app I know, you just will want your data, everything else is VERY unproductive. (there is a NTFS driver out there that ulitalizes the original windows drivers (and that for works nearly perfectly), but I've forgotten the name)
[08:33] <Nalioth> deejaykay, you may have to install from source the "uninstallable pkgs"
[08:33] <levander> nanot3ch: here's the link i downloaded twice to get the wierd name: http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/jpox/jdo-2.0-snapshot.jar
[08:33] <JairunCaloth> deejaykay: you need http://ubuntuguide.org/
[08:33] <nanot3ch> Behemoth: I don't use Audacity...:P....did you install all codecs and do most sound-fixes from ubuntuguide?
[08:34] <JairunCaloth> Florob: I'm interested in getting my windows games to work mostly.
[08:34] <deejaykay> JairunCaloth, thanks.  Do you think someone could update the ubuntu wiki about this?  The directions there are outdated and thats the first place I looked.
[08:34] <nanot3ch> levander: I dont have that problem...I'm using FireFox from the backports repository I believe, or debian universe...so maybe you dont have the latest version?
[08:34] <nanot3ch> levander: It just asks me if I want to over-write the old file....
[08:35] <dcraven> deejaykay: You are familiar with the concept of a wiki right?
[08:35] <levander> nanot3ch: I was very surprised to see today that ubuntu is patching their version of firefox with all the latest security updates
[08:35] <Behemoth> nanot3ch, I did all codecs havent reached soundfixes yet ... Ill see maybe it will correct it
[08:35] <Florob> JairunCaloth: Well what abour Cedega? (if you don't want to pay use the CVS version)
[08:35] <levander> nanot3ch: i am running the latest version in the ubuntu repositories.
[08:35] <karljp> anyone have any links on moving /home onto a new partition?
[08:35] <JairunCaloth> florob: what's the CVS version??
[08:35] <levander> nanot3ch: did you download the same link i did twice?
[08:35] <karljp> can I just tar up my /home as it stands,
[08:35] <thundrcleeze> Florob, I've spent hours trying to get CVS to work.  All futile.
[08:35] <nanot3ch> levander: I didnt download the same version, I just downloaded several misc. files :P
[08:36] <karljp> make the new parition, and mount it to /home and then untar to it?
[08:36] <deejaykay> dcraven, yes, but I dont feel like I can add anything useful.  I will update it if I can fix the problem with http://ubuntuguide.org/
[08:36] <nanot3ch> Behemoth: sound fixes are in troubleshooting at the bottom
[08:36] <levander> nanot3ch: will you try that link i gave you above, just wait for it to download once, then try to download it again
[08:36] <HappyFool> karljp: you can untar (or just cp) before mounting
[08:36] <Behemoth> nanot3ch, ok
[08:36] <JairunCaloth> what is CVS?
[08:36] <nanot3ch> Florob: How do you get the CVS version of Cedega?
[08:36] <thundrcleeze> Florob, also, tell me a linux-equiv. for red alert.
[08:36] <HappyFool> karljp: it might be an idea to switch to single-user mode before doing the mount
[08:36] <levander> karljp: yeah, i've gotta link to /home on another partition, it's not a big deal
[08:37] <karljp> I guess that was where I was really confused about it,
[08:37] <dcraven> deejaykay: Cool, thanks. Probably those who had a problem with it are best suited to update it.
[08:37] <Florob> thundrcleeze: well, maybe except specific games, thats a point for you.
[08:37] <karljp> I really just wish I'd been able to setup lvm at install time
[08:37] <thundrcleeze> JairunCaloth, I don't know how Cedega will help solve your problems, it's a commercial fork of wine.  You still won't be able to r/w to NTFS.
[08:38] <levander> anybody is using cpan to install perl modules? I'm thinking about using cpan to install svk instead of the ubuntu repositories
[08:38] <Behemoth> JairunCaloth, CVS is a dayly sourcecode snapshot, basically an interactive directory where the devellopers put the code they create everyday
[08:38] <Florob> nanot3ch, JairunCaloth: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45 might get you started.
[08:38] <nanot3ch> Florob: Thanks!
[08:38] <levander> nanot3ch: r u trying that? or should I just go ahead and post something to ubuntuforums now?
[08:39] <Florob> thundrcleeze, JairunCaloth: the RW thing is true yes, give me a minute.
[08:39] <nufan> I've tried a few times in here...
[08:40] <nufan> ANyone know a way to set up a linux distro on an external hard drive?
[08:41] <Florob> thundrcleeze, JairunCaloth: Found it, I was thinking of captive, it uses the original ntfs.sys to  mount NTFS read/write, but I have never used this so you are on your own basically http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[08:42] <JairunCaloth> florob: thanks alot, maybe this will get me going
[08:42] <nufan> No one>
[08:42] <karljp> captive is meant to work, but it also hasn't been touched in 2-3 years
[08:42] <nufan> *?
[08:42] <karljp> so I personalyl don't touch it
[08:43] <karljp> and I don't know anyone that's used it recently
[08:43] <thundrcleeze> if it works, then why hasn't anyone used it?
[08:43] <karljp> precisely
[08:43] <karljp> makes me suspicious of how well it really worked
[08:43] <thundrcleeze> I mean, if it worked, you'd think that it'd be a part of every single distro.
[08:43] <Florob> karljp: in 2-3 years??? I first heard about it maybe a half year ago and i thought it was pretty new than hmm...
[08:43] <ggeller> Newbie question:  How do I get a list of what packages are in a apt repository?
[08:43] <karljp> go look at the last updates to it.
[08:44] <morf3o> please anyone know where i download ubuntu-5.04-dvd-i386.iso
[08:44] <morf3o> bittorrent file don't work :(
[08:44] <Florob> thundrcleeze: maybe because you need the original ntfs.sys which is copyright by microsoft etc. also this IS included in knoppix
[08:44] <HappyFool> ggeller: what are you looking for? You could try browsing http://packages.ubuntu.com
[08:44] <holycow> Florob, not anymore actually
[08:45] <ggeller> HappyFool:  I want to try out Zope and Plone.
[08:45] <Florob> holycow: i'm so outdated
[08:45] <Nalioth> ggeller, if you use synaptic, you can see all that is available to you at the moment
[08:45] <HappyFool> ggeller: try using apt-cache search --names-only zope
[08:46] <tremblay> Dumb question: Is there a way to reset my password?
[08:46] <HappyFool> ggeller: and apt-cache search --names-only plone
[08:46] <hellrazer> good afternoon people i have a problem i need to install tar.gz files i dont know the code vor untaring and installing im newly to linux need some help
[08:46] <tremblay> I changed my password using the "Users and groups" feature and I think it screwed it up.
[08:47] <ggeller> Maybe I need to add the "universe" archive in apt.conf?
[08:48] <HappyFool> ggeller: yeah, it looks like both zope and plone are in universe
[08:48] <Nalioth> ggeller, you need to look at /etc/apt/sources.list b4 you play with the universe
[08:48] <blueyed> tremblay: are you on 64bit?
[08:48] <tremblay> blueyed: Yes.
[08:48] <hellrazer> someone help me
[08:48] <hellrazer> please
[08:48] <HappyFool> ggeller: right, it's /etc/apt/sources.list, not apt.conf
[08:48] <blueyed> tremblay: I had the same problem.. might be related to that. You'll have to use "passwd" at console..
[08:49] <HappyFool> hellrazer: try 'tar tzf <filename>' to view the file
[08:49] <ggibeau> hellrazer: tar zxvf
[08:49] <HappyFool> actually, can't you just double click on it via nautilus?
[08:49] <hellrazer> ty very much
[08:49] <Nalioth> hellrazer, the "man" is your friend, as in open a terminal and type "man tar"
[08:50] <psychonate> Which java package do I need to install if I want the run time environment for use with a java plugin for Firefox?
[08:50] <psychonate> or must I download/install java from Sun's website?
[08:50] <ggeller> HappyFool: Thanks, it seems to be working.  I'm running apt-get update now.
[08:51] <Nalioth> teach the man to fish, y'all
[08:51] <HappyFool> and he'll sit next to the lake doing nothing all day? ;)
[08:51] <ggeller> Teach a man to fish and he'll sit in a boat drinking beer for the rest of his life.
[08:52] <tremblay> blueyed: The cases were screwed up before, now it doesn't seem to recognize anything. I guess there's no way to reset it, eh? (damn security features) :P
[08:52] <psychonate> nvm, I see the FAQ
[08:52] <hellrazer> ok i got to view it  now how do i install the package?
[08:52] <hellrazer> tar zxvf
[08:52] <hellrazer> ?
[08:53] <blueyed> No, tremblay. And it annoys me that it made it into the release, because I've recognized it before (but forgot about it, because I do not use Gnome)..
[08:53] <HappyFool> tremblay: i imagine if you boot up into single-user mode you'll be able to change the password
[08:53] <hellrazer> sorry 4 this newbie dumpshit and disturbing u all with that
[08:53] <tremblay> HappyFool, How'd I do that?
[08:53] <HappyFool> hellrazer: tar zxvf will extract the tarfile into that directory
[08:54] <HappyFool> tremblay: um, not sure. maybe someone here knows?
[08:54] <HappyFool> i would guess appending an argument to the boot parameters, but i haven't tried it with ubuntu
[08:54] <hellrazer> ok the only thing that i need to know where the directrory is to push the file right? with root privilegs
[08:55] <Nalioth> hellrazer, there can be quite a lot of stuff to do btwn dumping a tar and having a running proggy
[08:55] <HappyFool> hellrazer: what is the package you wish to install?
[08:55] <HappyFool> is it not perhaps available in the ubuntu repositories?
[08:55] <hellrazer> firewfox
[08:55] <hellrazer> firefox sorry there is a new version available on the net
[08:55] <HappyFool> do you really need the latest version?
[08:56] <hellrazer> not really
[08:56] <blueyed> tremblay: you are on amd64 hoary (5.04), yes?
[08:56] <hellrazer> only 4 nice looking
[08:56] <blueyed> I'll file a bug.
[08:56] <blueyed> It's a serious bug IMHO.
[08:56] <hellrazer> not amd on i386
[08:56] <tremblay> blueyed: Yes.
[08:56] <hellrazer> if u mean me
[08:56] <alex2> an anyone extensively used the Hoary Starter Guide?
[08:57] <HappyFool> hellrazer: try extracting the file, maybe it has a file like README or INSTALL inside with install instructions
[08:57] <tremblay> How annoying. I guess I'll have to format again.
[08:57] <hellrazer> Happyfool ure right this is bullshit i dont need a damn new look to that browser its working like it there
[08:57] <HappyFool> i.e., just extract it in your home directory
[08:57] <hellrazer> i shouldnt stop a running system
[08:57] <hellrazer> hm..
[08:57] <HappyFool> um
[08:57] <HappyFool> ok
[08:57] <HappyFool> ;)
[08:57] <hellrazer> :-)
[08:58] <hellrazer> there arent many exploits to that browser found yet only critical bugs i need to fix i have some time 4 that i thnk
[08:58] <Nalioth> hellrazer, i don't think you have to worry so much about "exploits". That word is almost synonymous with "Windows"
[08:59] <hellrazer> ;)
[08:59] <hellrazer> youre right
[08:59] <HappyFool> well, firefox was updated for hoary yesterday, i think
[08:59] <hellrazer> yeah
[08:59] <Predius> was it?
[08:59] <Predius> 1.0.4?
[08:59] <hellrazer> yes i think so
[08:59] <HappyFool> my impression is that security fixes will be patched into the ubuntu repositories
[08:59] <hellrazer> yepp
[08:59] <goldfish> yeah, i saw the firefox exploit, on windows it creates and runs a .bat file, but on linux it can only create a text file.
[08:59] <Predius> nice.
[08:59] <HappyFool> no, it stays at 1.0.2
[08:59] <Predius> ...
[08:59] <hellrazer> hehe
[09:00] <sig> it's backported
[09:00] <misieq> hi
[09:00] <sig> security updates
[09:00] <HappyFool> but the security fixes are put there
[09:00] <hellrazer> i see
[09:00] <misieq> i have a problem..
[09:00] <sig> basically it is the newest version
[09:00] <sig> what is it
[09:00] <Nalioth> misieq, tell us about it
[09:00] <misieq> i've just set up my ubuntu and it wants to update...
[09:00] <JairunCaloth> I updated firefox today, and have been having some problems out of it... maybe I need to reboot?
[09:01] <misieq> but the installation source is on a dvd with packages
[09:01] <misieq> which are up to date
[09:01] <Nalioth> JairunCaloth, the only time you need to reboot, is when you change your kernel
[09:01] <sig> misieq: security fixes etc...
[09:01] <hellrazer> not me sorry 4 that
[09:01] <sig> let it update
[09:01] <sig> Nalioth: is right, you can restart everything else manually
[09:01] <misieq> but aptitude wants to download it from internet while most of it is on a dvd..
[09:02] <Nalioth> misieq, anything you have on any kind of ROM is old
[09:02] <drcode> hi all
[09:02] <sig> misieq: it needs the newest stuff from the internet
[09:02] <Nalioth> misieq, let it update
[09:02] <sig> let it update
[09:02] <drcode> how I can see what pkg install with dpkg or apt-get?
[09:02] <misieq> but i don't want to download this stuff... i'm happy with what's on dvd
[09:02] <sig> misieq: http://ubuntuguide.org is a good site you should visit
[09:02] <boow> im new to ubuntu the root account wasn't setup i had to boot into recovery and create a password for root
[09:02] <sig> misieq: then ignore it if you don't want an up to date system
[09:03] <misieq> and it will took ages to download
[09:03] <tremblay> Any way to reset my password aside from passwd?
[09:03] <sig> misieq: ok up to date system or not up to date.... your choice
[09:03] <Nalioth> boow, there is no root pwd (it's an ubuntu thang)
[09:03] <misieq> yes, but it wants to download such things like for example openoffice.org
[09:03] <sig> boow: http://ubuntuguide.org has good FAQ's
[09:03] <misieq> and it IS on that god-damn dvd
[09:03] <Nalioth> misieq, such is the freedom of *nix, you do what YOU want
[09:04] <levander> where do I file bug reports?   SAME thing
[09:05] <sig> misieq: listen, do you understand that the updates it wants to grab are meerly fixes, patches, etc. to the software installed on your system?
[09:06] <sig> it is a update
[09:06] <graabein> hi! where do i put the xmms skins?
[09:06] <sig> it will install the new and deinstall the old
[09:06] <Nalioth> misieq, you will not be d/l any horrible things (like with windoze update) only improvements to your existing software
[09:06] <misieq> arghh....
[09:06] <HappyFool> misieq: are you even reading what we're saying about edit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[09:06] <sig> misieq: "UPDATE"
[09:06] <HappyFool> well, i'm saying
[09:06] <misieq> i'd like to install software from this dvd
[09:06] <boow> well since im not a noob im always suing to root i'll leave roots password slackware is my main distro anyways
[09:06] <dcraven> graabein: ~/.xmms/Skins
[09:06] <graabein> thanks!
[09:07] <misieq> and i cannot since aptitude can only download
[09:07] <sig> misieq: then listen to HappyFool and have a "not up to date" system.
[09:07] <Nalioth> HappyFool, please in the future use the word "comment out" instead of "remove"
[09:07] <HappyFool> Nalioth: fair enough
[09:07] <thundrcleeze> misieq, what is it you're tyring to do?
[09:07] <misieq> i'd like to install software from this dvd and THEN get the UPDATES
[09:07] <cens0red> hey I just lost my panel for about 2 minutes.
[09:07] <Nalioth> boow, the root account is disable by default in ubuntu
[09:07] <drcode> with dpkg how I Can see list of pkg I Have ?
[09:08] <thundrcleeze> misieq, do you have x running?
[09:08] <HappyFool> drcode: how about dpkg -l
[09:08] <thundrcleeze> misieq, that is, GNOME?
[09:08] <misieq> no, beacuse aptitude didn't dl it yet
[09:08] <misieq> and it is on this f*cking dvd!!!
[09:08] <HappyFool> that doesn't sound right
[09:08] <HappyFool> i had gnome running without needing any net access
[09:08] <misieq> i do know that
[09:09] <thundrcleeze> misieq, you can use force version to make it only use your dvd, though if you were able to install it, everything essential should be installed.
[09:09] <misieq> there are about 3000 of packages on this dvd and i cannot install even one with apt
[09:09] <blueyed> tremblay: unfortunately I don't know a way to unset the password apart from using some live cd to boot from..
[09:09] <hellrazer> and there is the other question i need a stable firewall for ubuntu
[09:10] <misieq> i can type 'startx' but it gives me nothing. only blank screen
[09:10] <hellrazer> :)
[09:10] <blueyed> tremblay: It's filed.. please confirm it: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10742
[09:10] <boow> does ubuntu use its own packages or debian packages
[09:10] <HappyFool> misieq: what does /etc/apt/sources.list say?
[09:10] <typo> I'm trying to install eciadsl for an adsl modem but the tap0 interface doesn't seam to be created
[09:10] <typo> anyone know what it might be?
[09:10] <thundrcleeze> misieq, did you just install?
[09:11] <misieq> erm.... can i somehow 'stream' it to irssi??
[09:11] <HappyFool> use a paste-bin
[09:11] <misieq> (the only thing i managed to install)
[09:11] <HappyFool> http://rafb.net/paste/
[09:11] <tremblay> blueyed: Will do.
[09:11] <HappyFool> err. hope you can install a web-browser ;)
[09:11] <thundrcleeze> misieq, or just throw it in #flood
[09:11] <drcode> thanx
[09:11] <misieq> all right... be right back in few minutes.... (but i think i'll just type it :) )
[09:12] <misieq> 1: deb cdrom:[some name here] / unstable main restricted
[09:12] <drcode> I Want to remove this ii  arkeiasb-serve 5.3.6-0.601.rc Easy server backup on a local tape drive
[09:13] <drcode> in the list it appear but I CANT -r it
[09:13] <misieq> (without '1' it's only a number)
[09:13] <tremblay> blueyed: I'll try to reproduce it by doing another fresh install.
[09:13] <typo> anyone know where I can get information about tap0?
[09:13] <tremblay> Gr.
[09:13] <typo> or tap/tun
[09:13] <levander> do i have to create an account or something to make a comment on a bug in bugzilla.ubuntu.com?
[09:14] <misieq> 2: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[09:14] <hellrazer> i goit one shorewall
[09:14] <HappyFool> misieq: ok, i think we get the idea
[09:14] <HappyFool> misieq: do you have an editor installed, like vi or nano?
[09:14] <misieq> 3: deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[09:14] <drcode> I remove it
[09:14] <drcode> but with dpkg -l I still see it
[09:14] <misieq> yas, i have nanp
[09:14] <misieq> *nano
[09:15] <HappyFool> misieq: edit that file with 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'
[09:15] <HappyFool> and put '#' in from of all the deb lines with http in them
[09:15] <HappyFool> err, that's a # without any ' ;)
[09:15] <DNA`> ubuntu 5.04 doesnt have gcc installed?
[09:15] <HappyFool> then try 'sudo apt-get update' and try again
[09:15] <drcode> what is rc or ii ?
[09:16] <drcode> I can remove rc
[09:16] <misieq> done
[09:16] <drcode> IHave some pkg that is rc and some ii
[09:16] <Nalioth> misieq, the # in front of a line, tell the program to ignore it. these lines are called "comments" cuz they're for humans to read
[09:16] <HappyFool> DNA`: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:16] <misieq> i know this
[09:16] <misieq> but thanks ;)
[09:16] <DNA`> werd HappyFool 8]
[09:16] <HappyFool> misieq: ok, does it do what you want now?
[09:16] <drcode> I can delete rc in dpkg?
[09:18] <misieq> ahhhh..... yes!
[09:18] <misieq> thank you
[09:18] <HappyFool> np
[09:18] <misieq> but why isnt aptitude trying to get packages from dvd??
[09:18] <HappyFool> err
[09:19] <misieq> does it think that newer versions are available or something like this?
[09:20] <Behemoth> anyone in here can help me setup ATI Radeon Mobility M9/M10/RC300M card (not sure wish one is it that I have)
[09:20] <misieq> when aptitude finishes will it be enough to type startx to get x running? or i have to choose wm in xinitrc?
[09:20] <m3jsh> quick question guys, how do I open that "task manager" like program? I used to have it under system tools but I don't see it aynmore
[09:21] <Xappe> ah, nice, I just found the CMT libs and ladspa sdk in the repos :)
[09:21] <misieq> m3jsh: kpm?
[09:21] <misieq> or try top
[09:21] <m3jsh> is that it? i dunno, i'll see if i can reinstall it or something
[09:21] <HappyFool> misieq: i think there's a package called gnome-desktop which might do Just Work (not sure though)
[09:21] <misieq> it comes with kde i think
[09:22] <misieq> (i mean kpm)
[09:22] <HappyFool> m3jsh: Applications -> System Tools -> System Monitor
[09:22] <m3jsh> oh right, yeah i don't have that anymore, must have uninistalled it somehow
[09:23] <misieq> can i say that ubuntu is debian?
[09:23] <dabaStnd> m3jsh: system monitor under apps, system tools?
[09:23] <scott> misieq: based on debian
[09:23] <m3jsh> yes daba
[09:23] <dabaStnd> right, so you removed it, hey?
[09:23] <l1qu1d> alejandro ricove xD
[09:23] <m3jsh> i didn't knowingly uninstall it, i don't know what package it is under
[09:23] <alejandro_ricove> hey guys ...there is a quake 3 arena for linux ??
[09:23] <dabaStnd> damn, my hard disk is full again.
[09:24] <m3jsh> yeah there is alejandro
[09:24] <alejandro_ricove> oh yeah !! la liga !! :D
[09:24] <drcode> with dpkg how I can delete the rc at begin of dpkg -l?
[09:24] <HappyFool> drcode: have you tried using synaptic?
[09:25] <misieq> bless you all ;) thanks  once again
[09:25] <HappyFool> it's quite a lot friendlier, and you'll be able to tell if packages are installed or not
[09:25] <drcode> I have only console
[09:25] <drcode> sorry
[09:25] <Rubin> what does the gpg key steps on ubuntuguide.org actually DO? (what files are put where?)
[09:26] <sdfsdf> hello
[09:26] <goldfish> hi
[09:26] <mattis> hi
[09:26] <thundrcleeze> hi
[09:26] <bonggnu> hi, how can i migrate from Debian Sid to Ubuntu Hoary? changing the sources.list ?
[09:26] <HappyFool> drcode: how about aptitude then? also seems a little easier than dpkg
[09:26] <Nalioth> bonggnu, bingo
[09:26] <bonggnu> that`s all folks
[09:26] <mattis> synaptic is the soul
[09:26] <drcode> and ?
[09:27] <shadeofgrey> where are applications usually installed to?
[09:27] <drcode> wow
[09:27] <drcode> nice
[09:27] <sdfsdf> Where can i download the debian package for sane1.0.10 ?
[09:27] <drcode> I Didnt know
[09:27] <Behemoth> Can someone please tell me if its ok that my ATI mobility card shows up as unknow device in lspci and as ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon Mobility 9100 U3 (R200 IGP) in xorg.conf? or do I need to do something to make lspci recognise it? (actually only my network adapter is recognized, it that a big problem, cause everything seems to work)?
[09:27] <drcode> wow
[09:27] <thundrcleeze> shadeofgrey, usually /usr/bin, but you can check in a package manager
[09:27] <sdfsdf> Where can i download the debian package for sane1.0.10 ?
[09:27] <dabaStnd> m3jsh: gnome-system-monitor is the command for taht program, if you have teh menu editor, maybe you can add, or if you know another way.
[09:28] <psychonate> I can't get the debian-marillat repository working for me
[09:28] <m3jsh> dabaStnd: I just found it in synaptic, thanks
[09:28] <dabaStnd> so you got it back throguh there?
[09:29] <psychonate> I put this in sources.list: "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main"
[09:29] <zyx> hi. my ~ (tilde) key doesnt work right, i can only get the character when i hit the spacebar afterwards..
[09:29] <Nalioth> psychonate, what machine type are you using?
[09:29] <sdfsdf> Where can i download the debian package for sane1.0.10 ?
[09:29] <m3jsh> dabaStnd: installing now
[09:29] <Behemoth> are there any ubuntu 3d acceleration guides?
[09:29] <psychonate> Nalioth, x86
[09:29] <wezzer-> hi
[09:30] <wezzer-> I need help
[09:30] <wezzer-> with Radeon 9800
[09:30] <Nalioth> psychonate, then check your spelling and syntax in the file
[09:30] <psychonate> I get this in synaptic: "W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nerim.net_debian-marillat_dists_testing_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)"
[09:30] <Nalioth> psychonate, they may be down
[09:30] <m3jsh> it's back :)
[09:30] <psychonate> Nalioth, I visited the URL in my browser :(
[09:30] <wezzer-> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&highlight=ati+driver+howto
[09:30] <dabaStnd> hehe
[09:30] <wezzer-> I followed those instructions
[09:30] <wezzer-> but it didn't work
[09:31] <wezzer-> so I tried to use original drivers
[09:31] <wezzer-> but I can't
[09:31] <mattis> I would very much recommend whitelarge to all laptop users. A cursor you can finally see. http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=19902
[09:31] <dave_> how do i update firefox to latest version?
[09:31] <mattis> synaptic
[09:32] <Nalioth> psychonate, site is down or your spelling/syntax is off
[09:32] <dave_> and on my desktop box, i cant get onto this channel? has it been down at all?
[09:32] <JairunCaloth> LOL CVS works alot better when it's installed
[09:32] <Xappe> haha
[09:32] <klaym> is it possible to make a mouse-2nd-button-navigation-menu thing on gnome? so I could disable the panels
[09:32] <dabaStnd> dave_: nope, it has been up.
[09:32] <Behemoth> whats the terminal commande to figure out kernel version and compile time?
[09:32] <psychonate> Nalioth, here is my entry: "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main"
[09:33] <dabaStnd> dave_: you can not at this time upgrade to .4, at leastr UI was not abkle to...the best I could get to is .3
[09:33] <wezzer-> any help?
[09:33] <Nalioth> psychonate, sorry i don't know
[09:33] <dave_> just wonderin cus it tries to connect but never does but my laptop (not updated) has no prob
[09:33] <Nalioth> psychonate, i run a PPC, for which marillat has nothing
[09:33] <psychonate> well, my syntax looks OK to me, and the site is up AFAIK
[09:33] <dave_> cool will do that then dont want the .2 vunerabilities
[09:34] <Behemoth> whats the terminal command to figure out kernel version and compile time?
[09:34] <HappyFool> uname -a
[09:34] <Behemoth> thank you
[09:34] <_hp_> came home and discovered that my dad inadventenly formatted my hard disk, all of the data is gone
[09:35] <zyx> how can i make xterm ignore the alt key, so that i can use alt-keybindungs in bash?
[09:35] <HappyFool> how do you inadvertently format a hard-drive?
[09:35] <BoD_SWAT> any Devs in here?
[09:35] <sdfsdf> Where can i download the debian package for sane1.0.10 ?
[09:35] <Nalioth> HappyFool, some people are born to it
[09:35] <goldfish> zyx: yes u can
[09:35] <scorpix> i got this error when i try to compile new kernel in hoary:
[09:35] <scorpix> scorpix@ubuntu:/usr/src$ sudo make gconfig
[09:35] <scorpix> make: *** No rule to make target `gconfig'.  Stop.
[09:35] <dave_> synaptic shows only .2 version not .3..... :S
[09:35] <goldfish> zyx: it's metakey escape or something in the options menu
[09:35] <_hp_> i left the ubuntu install cd in the cd rom, he rebooted, pressed enter with every query, and ubuntu deleted everything
[09:35] <nderjm> Greetings from Jamrock (island on Jamaica)
[09:36] <klaym> is it possible to have an enlightenment -style menu navigation on gnome? so the panels could be disabled
[09:36] <HappyFool> doh
[09:36] <ivoks> _hp_ lol
[09:36] <zyx> ok got it. but the ~ problem is still there  :(
[09:36] <nderjm> Has anyone installed or upgrades an OldWorld Powermac to Hoary?
[09:36] <_hp_> so i have lost about 30 GB of important data
[09:36] <_hp_> including ALL of my work stuff too
[09:37] <Predius> Guys, seen the Xbox360 specs? I'd love to run Ubuntu on that.
[09:37] <JairunCaloth> where do I find $path?
[09:37] <Kirilis> why Ubuntu makeing noise when playing mp3 ?
[09:37] <goldfish> JairunCaloth: echo $PATH
[09:37] <_hp_> Kirilis, mp3 are sound files
[09:37] <nderjm> XBox 360?  I'd much rather wait for the PS3
[09:37] <JairunCaloth> tis blank
[09:37] <Kirilis> yes ;)
[09:37] <BoD_SWAT> WINE striking news: I just 'talked' to a WINE developer and he said the Debian/Ubuntu packages are broken/outdated. The Winesetuptk was  deprecated years ago (and it still is in apt-get)
[09:37] <_hp_> Kirilis, check if your sound drivers are installed properly
[09:37] <nderjm> Cell Baby!!!
[09:37] <mattis> Ich sah, dass der Kanal auch vielsprachig genutzt wird. ;) Find ich gut. gibts #de.ubuntu oder so?
[09:37] <HappyFool> JairunCaloth: try echo $PATH
[09:37] <finnland> yo :)
[09:37] <HappyFool> JairunCaloth: i.e., capital letters
[09:37] <JairunCaloth> doh!
[09:37] <Kirilis> _hp_, my sound card is simple dont have drivers...
[09:38] <BoD_SWAT> try ALSA :P
[09:38] <Nalioth> Predius, i mused about that a few minutes ago
[09:38] <Kirilis> i will ;)
[09:38] <dave_> synaptic shows only .2 version not .3 firefox..... :S any ideas?
[09:38] <zyx> hm genau.. gibts ein deutschen support channel?
[09:38] <admx> XBOX 360 here, you have to wait about a year later for PS3
[09:38] <Nalioth> Predius, 3 hack-off cell processors (hacked off as only microsloth can do it)
[09:38] <Bazzi> dave_ ubuntu ports back the patches.
[09:38] <Nalioth> zyx, in der #ubuntu-de
[09:38] <finnland> hmm, i can only get sound out of the rear channels of my 2 soundcards.
[09:38] <dave_> explain, ports back?
[09:38] <admx> 512 video ram
[09:38] <nderjm> But how easy do you think MS will make it to run Linux on the XBOX
[09:39] <nderjm> its gonna be hellto hack
[09:39] <Bazzi> dave_ it is version 1.0.3 or 1.0.4 just with the 1.0.2 tag on it
[09:39] <karljp> they said that about the first one too remember
[09:39] <Nalioth> nderjm, the question is, how badly do YOU want to keep playing xbox360 games?
[09:39] <admx> That's the fun of hacking, the harder they make it the funner it is.....
[09:39] <JairunCaloth> what's the easiest way to find a program burried in the depths of my HDD
[09:39] <dave_> is that off the back ports servers? i get errors with those servers, oh right
[09:40] <Bazzi> no.
[09:40] <Nalioth> JairunCaloth, a shoveL?
[09:40] <HappyFool> JairunCaloth: locate or find
[09:40] <dave_> i see whys that
[09:40] <goldfish> JairunCaloth: 'locate <moo>'
[09:40] <nderjm> Nalioth: Never played one.  Dont particulalry want to.  Not gonna spend money on one :D
[09:40] <goldfish> I want a PsP.
[09:40] <karljp> wheee, fsck -c -c takes a looooonnnnnng time
[09:40] <nderjm> now there is something to spend money on
[09:40] <nderjm> the PSP is SWEEEET!
[09:40] <goldfish> You got one?
[09:40] <goldfish> I played on one.
[09:40] <nderjm> nope, but got to play with one
[09:40] <Nalioth> nderjm, if you have read the latest, if you never connect to xb0x-live, then you can do waht you like with it
[09:40] <nderjm> its is very very nice
[09:40] <goldfish> No european release date as of yet :/
[09:41] <admx> Not to metion it does not hurt their sales. Hell PSP sales are up
[09:41] <goldfish> i might order one online from japan or the states when i get the money saved
[09:41] <admx> Just would not firmware update the PSP.
[09:42] <nderjm> Anyone running Hoary on an OldWorld Mac?
[09:42] <Nalioth> nderjm, sorry, only on a new world variant
[09:42] <Kirilis> how to search packages in apt ?
[09:42] <Nalioth> Kirilis, use synaptic
[09:42] <misieq> hi. it's me again
[09:42] <nderjm> Nalioth, which model?
[09:42] <FreeEagle> Hi all
[09:43] <Nalioth> nderjm, iBook G3/600
[09:43] <finnland> where are, eventuel, error log files from the sound system stored?
[09:43] <FreeEagle> I have a Question , concering Screenshots under Ubuntu
[09:43] <misieq> is it allright that aptitude uses all power of my cpu while configuring libraries?
[09:43] <nderjm> Nalioth, I installed it on a B&W G3/400.  It runs sweeeet doesnt it :D
[09:43] <admx> Like to get a Mac Mini here..... Yellow Dog
[09:44] <zenlunat1c> Is apt-get kde basically get me all kde related apps?
[09:44] <nderjm> Nooo
[09:44] <zenlunat1c> Nalioth: I have that model.
[09:44] <Choubaka> zenlunat1c: no. :/
[09:44] <admx> Or will Ubuntu run on a Mac Mini???
[09:44] <zenlunat1c> admx: It should.
[09:44] <nderjm> admx, Yess
[09:44] <FreeEagle> I am trying to make a Screenshot for a Video Clip, which is played with Realplayer,i want to have the Picture of the Clip and the Desktop together in one Screenshot,
[09:44] <admx> Hell yeah!!
[09:44] <zenlunat1c> Whats a good way of getting konq installed?
[09:44] <nderjm> admx, if you value your package management, stay away from Yellow Dog
[09:44] <FreeEagle> How can i do this !!!!!
[09:45] <nderjm> admx, its RPM based :(
[09:45] <Choubaka> zenlunat1c: err, wait.
[09:45] <Choubaka> yes.
[09:45] <Choubaka> :p
[09:45] <Choubaka> I confused KDE with QT
[09:45] <zenlunat1c> Choubaka: I see.
[09:45] <Choubaka> apt-get install konqueror maybe?
[09:45] <zenlunat1c> Choubaka: I think I'm just going to do apt-get konqueror and see how that goes.
[09:45] <Choubaka> +install
[09:46] <admx> I think that settles it buying a Mac Mini for Ubuntu
[09:46] <goldfish> what about the lovely osx?
[09:46] <nderjm> Yeah, Tiger is sweeeeeet!
[09:46] <admx> not.....
[09:46] <nderjm> You can always dual boot
[09:46] <_hp_> os x is a pretty good OS; can compete with ubuntu
[09:46] <misieq> what is 'Breezy' ??
[09:46] <goldfish> misieq: dev version of ubuntu currently
[09:47] <usybic> it's what you get when you leave your fly open.
[09:47] <admx> true
[09:47] <goldfish> misieq: it's going to be the next version of ubuntu released
[09:47] <_hp_> when is the next major release of ubuntu scheduled for?
[09:47] <nderjm> I'm running Panther on my Powerbook, Tiger on the G3/400 and Ubuntu on an OldWorld Performa
[09:47] <goldfish> november or something
[09:47] <FreeEagle> okay i think there no any answer for my Question here
[09:47] <FreeEagle> :)
[09:48] <nderjm> Ill probably end up Gentooing or Ubuntunizing my G3 though :)
[09:48] <FreeEagle> Thanks anyway.....
[09:48] <goldfish> FreeEagle: try posting on the forums
[09:48] <JairunCaloth> gcc does c right?
[09:48] <FreeEagle> Will do it for sure goldfish
[09:48] <FreeEagle> Thanks anyway
[09:48] <goldfish> JairunCaloth: yes
[09:48] <FreeEagle> :) bye bye
[09:48] <IcemanV9> goldfish: actually October; 5.10
[09:48] <goldfish> JairunCaloth: g++ does c++
[09:49] <goldfish> IcemanV9: hehe, not too far off :)
[09:49] <JairunCaloth> then why does this tell me that I don't have a c compilar?
[09:49] <IcemanV9> :)
[09:49] <JairunCaloth> the path is even in the $PATH
[09:49] <goldfish> JairunCaloth: What does?
[09:49] <casimir> hey everyone, is there a way to make wxWidgets use GTK2??
[09:49] <JairunCaloth> CVS does
[09:49] <Choubaka> yes.
[09:49] <Nalioth> nderjm, yes it does. i like the freedom (which OSX doesnt give you)
[09:49] <Choubaka> But I don't know now. :p
[09:49] <JairunCaloth> I have gcc-3.3
[09:49] <casimir> Choubaka, thanks :p
[09:49] <Choubaka> I had it using gtk2 by default
[09:50] <goldfish> JairunCaloth: hmmm... is there a readme with it?
[09:50] <casimir> Choubaka, in Gentoo I have it working with USE flags
[09:50] <Choubaka> ok.
[09:50] <nderjm> Nalioth, I've always been a Mac user.  Its just works.  So it remains my main desktop os.  it give me enough freedom to keep me happy.
[09:50] <JairunCaloth> goldfish: I'm using a howto, but it's not helping
[09:50] <goldfish> hmmmm
[09:50] <Choubaka> casimir: But this is Ubuntu. :)
[09:50] <nderjm> Gentoo's Portage Package Manager runs on OSX
[09:51] <Nalioth> nderjm, i have another new iBook running OSX (it will run OSX until the linux community discovers the drivers for the APX)
[09:51] <Choubaka> Well, it's python :P
[09:51] <Nalioth> nderjm, techII but what does it portage?
[09:51] <Choubaka> someone will still have to maintain OSX specific ebuilds.
[09:52] <nderjm> Nalioth, huh?   what does it portage??
[09:52] <sigmundv> bye
[09:52] <techII> portage==gentoo package manager
[09:52] <nderjm> Nalioth, if thats a pun, ouch!
[09:52] <techII> err, didn't read everything
[09:52] <casimir> I'll look more into it
[09:52] <admx> Hey, any good street shops selling the mini for a great price?
[09:53] <maximaus> Hi ya'll, I just hooked a new 17" tft up to my system, restarted it, and it seems to work fine--is there nothing else I need to do?
[09:53] <nderjm> yup, enjoy it
[09:53] <admx> Or just that the $500 to any local shop
[09:53] <Nalioth> bbl
[09:53] <IcemanV9> it's interesting .. on my laptop, with flgrx ATI driver, it's so slow (tested with glxgears). without flgrx, it's fast (but not fast enough)
[09:53] <JairunCaloth> should I rename it from gcc-3.3 to gcc?
[09:53] <JairunCaloth> or will that do more damage than good?
[09:54] <goldfish> damage
[09:54] <maximaus> Apple keeps pretty tight reings on their resellers so I doubt you can get much of a deal on a mini. :/
[09:54] <Choubaka> uhh.
[09:54] <Choubaka> I am too tired. :)
[09:55] <IcemanV9> maximaus: as long as you're satisified with the screen resolution :)
[09:55] <admx> Then I just check my local Rebate Center, Opps... I mean MicroCenter
[09:55] <maximaus> IcemanV9, yeah it's set at the recommened res, but the refresh rate only has 60hz as an option.  They are shown as "Hidden W95 FAT32 (LBA)"/
[10:02] <konkor> hey... i have just installed hoary 5.04 on a brand new toshiba l10-102. everything is fine but i cant see any battery status or other laptop related stuff...acpid running and acpi modules are ok.../proc/acpi files are empty
[10:02] <HappyFool> _hp_: why do you think it would?
[10:02] <_hp_> HappyFool, i don't i'm just being paranoid, because i NEED this to get done
[10:02] <_hp_> (server backup)
[10:02] <geogeo> it's okay
[10:02] <geogeo> but it's normal
[10:02] <techII> _hp_: shouldn't unless there is some type of 'timeout'
[10:02] <geogeo> it just locks the screen
[10:02] <techII> which would have to be set up
[10:02] <Behemoth> stanter, they are hidden use Disk Manager in windows to unmask them
[10:03] <HappyFool> _hp_: afaik the screen lock doesn't stop any apps or anything like that
[10:03] <foxiness> my friend ask me to install the ubuntu on her pc but , not of all cd am create for her work "its only wrok on my 2 pc" and not work on other 3 pc "of my friends"? is there away around this ?
[10:03] <stanter> Behemoth: I can't, there is only option "Delete" in windows Disk Manager
[10:04] <Behemoth> stanter, then use Gparted in Ubuntu
[10:04] <Behemoth> stanter, or Partition Magic in windows
[10:05] <stanter> Behemoth:  Partition Magic fails to install.. "Error on disk E:/" - or something like this
[10:05] <holycow> foxiness, what does that even mean?
[10:05] <Behemoth> stanter, Gparted them
[10:05] <Behemoth> then*
[10:05] <HappyFool> foxiness: did you check the CD after burning it?
[10:05] <stanter> Behemoth: ok, I'll try now..
[10:06] <Behemoth> stanter, ubuntuguide.org tells you exactly how to install it if you dont know
[10:06] <foxiness> holycow, i dont know becuse that am ask here
[10:06] <foxiness> HappyFool, how can i do that ?
[10:06] <zenlunat1c> I install konq and it doesn't show up on my applications list.
[10:07] <konkor> can you help me with that acpi on toshiba notebook?
[10:07] <HappyFool> foxiness: well, if you have the cd you can run 'md5sum -vc md5sum.txt' in /media/cdrom
[10:07] <techII> zenlunat1c: using ubuntu, or kubuntu?
[10:07] <HappyFool> (this is assuming you are running ubuntu -- i imagine you can also do it on any OS if you have md5sum)
[10:07] <zenlunat1c> techII: ubuntu
[10:08] <Behemoth> can someone help me with ATI Drivers plz I followed the guide on forums and everything worked up till fgl_glxgears that command fails with 5 error lines (X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) is the first one) what can cause it?
[10:08] <HappyFool> i think if you boot using the cd there's a integrity check option too
[10:09] <techII> you can use the 'konquerer' command to start it
[10:09] <techII> err
[10:09] <foxiness> konkor, kde or gnome ?
[10:09] <techII> gnome, I think
[10:10] <konkor> kde
[10:10] <foxiness> techII, ;)
[10:10] <zenlunat1c> techII: I'm just trying out konqueror
[10:10] <techII> though it was zenlunat1c's problem
[10:10] <JairunCaloth> how do I add a path to the $PATH ?
[10:10] <_hp_> oh man, i think i'm glad my dad deleted all my data, i'm finally windows free
[10:10] <foxiness> konkor, am gnome guru sorry maybe other here will help u
[10:10] <konkor> foxiness, klaptop_check not working anyway
[10:10] <Behemoth> anyone got any experience with ATI Drivers?
[10:11] <techII> zen1unat1c: try "applications > run program" then type in 'konqueror'
[10:11] <zenlunat1c> whats the command to get everything of kubuntu cd on ubuntu?
[10:11] <HappyFool> JairunCaloth: for the command line only? try editing .bashrc
[10:11] <foxiness> Behemoth, what your problem
[10:11] <zenlunat1c> techII: I did terminal 'konq..' worked
[10:11] <Behemoth> can someone help me with ATI Drivers plz I followed the guide on forums and everything worked up till fgl_glxgears that command fails with 5 error lines (X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) is the first one) what can cause it?
[10:11] <konkor> foxiness, it s not a problem for me...i can switch to the gnome...but i think my problem is not related with the Desktop env.
[10:11] <foxiness> thanks HappyFool for this tip
[10:12] <Behemoth> foxiness, sorry I just restated my last statement
[10:12] <hellrazer> Behemoth try http://www.watchland.org/dmcgraw/ati-debian.html
[10:12] <konkor> foxiness, how can i solve tihs with gnome?
[10:12] <hellrazer> maybe this helps you
[10:13] <foxiness> konkor, on gnome im just "add to panel..." what i need "right click on panel"
[10:13] <stanter> Behemoth: I installed Gparted, but it doesn't seem to start.. It asked for my password, and that's all.
[10:14] <konkor> foxiness, gnome's battery monitor shows %0 always
[10:14] <Behemoth> hellrazer, fglrxconfig do I run it from X or console?
[10:14] <hellrazer> you running a acer laptop?
[10:14] <konkor> nope toshiba
[10:14] <hellrazer> ohh ok
[10:14] <zenlunat1c> Any irssi users know how to specify joining channels when on multiple networks?
[10:15] <konkor> phoneix bios support is very poor i guess...modprobe toshiba_acpi says no such deviv
[10:15] <konkor> device...very ironic
[10:15] <foxiness> konkor, on terminal "acpi"
[10:16] <Behemoth> zenlunat1c, /CHANNEL ADD -auto #channel -network somenetwork (not sure if u need -network or just network alias after the channer directly)
[10:16] <foxiness> or "apm"
[10:16] <Behemoth> zenlunat1c, u need to make network aliases first if they arent already made (most are by default)
[10:16] <konkor> apm not working for me...but acpi is running
[10:16] <zenlunat1c> Behemoth: I just want to join a channel not autojoin.
[10:16] <foxiness> konkor, put here the output please
[10:17] <zenlunat1c> Behemoth: like /join #channel but that joins the channel on freenode not the other server.
[10:17] <konkor> root        24  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   22:54   0:00 [kacpid]
[10:17] <konkor> root      5597  0.0  0.1   1680   788 ?        Ss   22:56   0:00 /usr/sbin/acpid -c /etc/acpi/events -s /var/run/acpid.socket
[10:17] <foxiness> zenlunat1c, use open on tab
[10:17] <zenlunat1c> foxiness: what is that?
[10:17] <konkor>  lsmod | grep acpi
[10:17] <konkor> acpi_cpufreq            6020  1
[10:17] <konkor> freq_table              4484  2 acpi_cpufreq,cpufreq_stats
[10:17] <konkor> sony_acpi               6280  0
[10:17] <konkor> pcc_acpi               11264  0
[10:17] <konkor> processor              23220  2 acpi_cpufreq,thermal
[10:17] <jbailey> Anyone here running current breezy want to help me troubleshoot an ieee1394 bug?
[10:18] <foxiness> konkor, dont do like this here on genral
[10:18] <zenlunat1c> konkor: #flood
[10:18] <konkor> foxiness, oh im really sorry
[10:18] <Behemoth> zenlunat1c, oh lol I think u switch server status window with alt+~ or something like that (u need to switch server stat window)
[10:18] <foxiness> konkor, am ask the out put on one command "acpi"
[10:18] <konkor> acpi command shows nothing
[10:19] <foxiness> konkor, maybe u need to change from your bios if u can from acpi to apm
[10:20] <usama> hi all
[10:20] <foxiness> hi usama
[10:21] <foxiness> konkor, to add support to your kenerl for apm "i hope this will help u"
[10:21] <zenlunat1c> Behemoth: the status window contains both server statuses
[10:21] <konkor> foxiness, hmmm..nice idea.let me check that...thanks for suggestions and forgive my ignorance about flood
[10:21] <usama> today I gave a try to ubuntu linux 5.04 but I cant find kppp (dialup) to connect to internet, can anyone guide me that  how can I connect to internet
[10:21] <zenlunat1c> konkor: i think we'll all live
[10:21] <zenlunat1c> usama: what type of modem are you using?
[10:22] <Behemoth> zenlunat1c, yes but there is a keybind to switch to wich server u are sending the command
[10:22] <usama> zenlunat1c: an internal 56K modem
[10:22] <Behemoth> zenlunat1c, dont remember it though cause havent used irssi in a while
[10:23] <zenlunat1c> usama: Its probably not supported as its a software based modem.
[10:23] <zenlunat1c> usama: You'll need to search google to see if its supported or buy a hardware based modem.
[10:24] <usama> zenlunat1c: then its no use to stick with Ubuntu
[10:24] <foxiness> usama, do this on terminal "lspci |grep modem"
[10:25] <usama> zenlunat1c: huh, I can use some else distro
[10:25] <Behemoth> hellrazer, I followed the guide but when I run fglrxconfig my card isnt in the list or do I just select a random mobility card ?
[10:25] <cyphase> hey everyone
[10:26] <zenlunat1c> usama: Unfortunatly that won't solve the problem. Every distro uses basically the same kernel so if its not supported in one its most likely not supported in the other.
[10:26] <foxiness> hi cyphase
[10:27] <foxiness> zenlunat1c, am use modem and its work on ubuntu but can not wrok on fedroacore3 and work on fc2
[10:27] <usama> zenlunat1c: I think Ubuntu is just a joke, I will stick with my Gentoo, its excellent, and my modem is working very well
[10:27] <shadeofgrey> whats the file extension for Beep playlist files
[10:27] <foxiness> usama, 90% will work
[10:27] <bas_> Behemoth, there is no option to remove "hidden" from partition in gparted
[10:27] <shadeofgrey> or can i just save them as m3u's ?
[10:27] <shadeofgrey> and is there perhaps a synaptic package for installing winamp?
[10:27] <foxiness> usama, did u know what is your modem ?
[10:28] <frogger^> hello. I need to install the glx for my nvidia card. what would you do: a) apt-get install nvidia-glx or b) getting the latest nvidia drivers from the official website?
[10:28] <techII> shadeofgrey: I don't think there is a linux version of winamp
[10:28] <Behemoth> bas_, you dont remove it you assign a letter to it (sec let me check to be sure)
[10:28] <techII> shadeofgrey: The closest thing would be 'beep-media-player' or 'xmms'
[10:29] <shadeofgrey> actually there is a linux version
[10:29] <shadeofgrey> i just looked it up
[10:29] <foxiness> frogger^, did read ubuntuguide ?
[10:29] <shadeofgrey> but thats not important
[10:29] <bas_> Behemoth, do you mean Device-Set Disklabel ?
[10:29] <shadeofgrey> all i need to know is what file extension to assign to my beep-media-player playlists
[10:29] <frogger^> foxiness, uhmmm, no? which guide do you mean?
[10:29] <shadeofgrey> i tried just giving it a name in the 'playlist save' dialog box but it gave errors
[10:30] <Behemoth> bas_, disklabel is disk name that u see in windows
[10:30] <zenlunat1c> Behemoth: It was cntrl-x.
[10:30] <Behemoth> zenlunat1c, huh?
[10:30] <foxiness> frogger^, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/
[10:30] <|9mmCensor|> hello
[10:30] <zenlunat1c> Behemoth: The irssi thingie.
[10:31] <foxiness> frogger^, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/index.html#installnvidiadriver
[10:31] <|9mmCensor|> I just installed Ubuntu, and it kicks butt
[10:31] <shadeofgrey> also id like to know how to assign default applications -- like in windows -- how do i make it so that every time i try to open a specific file of a certain type that it always uses the application of my choice -- because the defaults on ubuntu usually are not what i want to use
[10:31] <Behemoth> zenlunat1c, oh ok :D be sure not to hit ctrl+c by error happent to me a few times :D
[10:31] <frogger^> foxiness, alright, thank you!
[10:31] <bas_> Behemoth, ah, you mean that if I choose "Delete" in windows Disk Manager, I won't delete it, but assign a new letter to it ?
[10:31] <foxiness> frogger^, nps your wellcome
[10:31] <Behemoth> bas_, no no no it will actually delete it
[10:32] <zenlunat1c> Behemoth: I didn't think cntrl-c worked with irssi I thought you have to do /quit but I'm not going to try.
[10:32] <bas_> Behemoth, but "Delete" is the only option there, besides "Help"
[10:32] <shadeofgrey> also i would like help with k3b -- i installed CDRAO, the base kde packages, and the k3b package, but the installer never put a launch icon for k3b anywhere in my applications menu -- i have to start it from a cmdline and even then - it gives errors
[10:32] <frogger^> foxiness, hmm it says "404 not found"
[10:32] <Behemoth> damn I dont have windows anymore cant check .... u sure you cant install partition magic, if E: has errors just correct them with windows disk inspection tool
[10:33] <zenlunat1c> Anyone else notice konq to be slower in loading pages than gecko stuff?
[10:33] <foxiness> frogger^, ctrl+f nvid "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/"
[10:33] <Behemoth> zenlunat1c, think it depends on ur setup of irssi, in mine it worked cause some of my scripts made it hang so needed ctrl+c to work
[10:34] <bas_> Behemoth, I'll try to install PM for DOS.. maybe will return back..
[10:34] <shadeofgrey> zen:  the mozilla rendering engine is the fastest of any browser currently available
[10:34] <Behemoth> bas_, PM is the best solution
[10:34] <zenlunat1c> shadeofgrey: I've seen test that show opera to be faster.
[10:34] <foxiness> zenlunat1c, what is this konq ?
[10:35] <shadeofgrey> zenlu:  tests dont mean shit....  besides - opera blows rancid ardvark balls
[10:35] <frogger^> foxiness, i guess you point me to the wrong website. could it be that you mean http://www.ubuntuguide.org instead of http://www.ubuntulinux.org ?
[10:35] <shadeofgrey> hey zenlunatic...  are you really good with ubuntu?
[10:35] <foxiness> frogger^, http://ubuntuguide.org/index.html#installnvidiadriver
[10:35] <foxiness> frogger^, sorry
[10:36] <shadeofgrey> yo - foxiness - do you have time to help me with some stuff?  i tried using ubuntu guide but couldnt find the answes i need
[10:36] <stephen_> hi, i trying to get   GTK-Gutella
[10:36] <stephen_> how do i install?
[10:36] <krat3r> can somone tell me how do i add a link to a path, is that i want to put a pkg path in the /usr/local/ but his path is at /usr/, how do i link it?
[10:36] <frogger^> foxiness, no problem, thanks again!
[10:36] <stephen_> GTK-Gnutella how do i geT?
[10:36] <foxiness> shadeofgrey, if i can help why not :)
[10:36] <stephen_> did search for it usign google, and got MOTU Ubuntu. What's this?
[10:36] <shadeofgrey> okay
[10:37] <techII> stephen_: apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[10:37] <George_> not there
[10:37] <George_> i try agian
[10:37] <George_> that's what i tried first, and it didn't work
[10:37] <techII> not shure if you have to use 'universe'
[10:37] <George_> sec i check sources
[10:37] <George_> k what source i need
[10:38] <techII> the ones with 'universe' at the end of them
[10:38] <George_> no UNiverse
[10:38] <George_> wait
[10:38] <George_> uncomment them?
[10:38] <techII> yes
[10:38] <George_> roger
[10:39] <techII> theres a lot more packages in them, but they are officialy unsuported
[10:39] <George_> techII wanna see my sources.list doing apt-get update so probley good know.
[10:39] <George_> FOUND! thank u
[10:40] <George_> MP3 Player, Key Disk, and a 250 GB USB HD tons of USB , and GNome 2.10 auto mounts. Freaken awesome
[10:40] <George_> i been having problems with NVIDIA driver
[10:40] <George_> crashses on Americas army, and freezes on wolf et
[10:40] <fabio> hello
[10:40] <techII> Im not the one to ask about that, only have a nvidia card on my gentoo box
[10:40] <ggeller> How do I tell which version of a package is installed?  Maybe using apt somthing or other?
[10:41] <George_> gentoo
[10:41] <George_> GENTOO fun
[10:41] <George_> gentoo best but also the most pain in the butt (Sometimes)
[10:42] <techII> I haven't goten the nvidia drivers up, without using gentoo's scripts
[10:42] <George_> koo
[10:42] <techII> haven't tried to anyways
[10:43] <foxiness> ggeller, use dpkg -s something
[10:43] <ggeller> foxiness: Thanks.
[10:44] <foxiness> ggeller, you are wellcome
[10:46] <sbcl3> how do i get rid of all those stupid games?
[10:46] <shido6> I cannot play audio from my cd drive ( wav ) via xmmx
[10:46] <shido6> xmms
[10:46] <Fator_Dee> sbcl3: uninstall them from synaptic or apt-get
[10:46] <sbcl3> fator: i typed in the text but it didn't seem to work
[10:47] <sbcl3> i'll try again though
[10:47] <dos000> anyone familiar with vsftpd ? i am trying to make it liten to another port ...
[10:47] <techII> sbcl3: I think your talking about the 'gnome-games' package
[10:48] <sbcl3> oh
[10:48] <sbcl3> yeah
[10:49] <ryan_> hi
[10:50] <techII> dos000: from what I just found use the "listen_port" directive in it's config file, unless you are using inetd/xinetd
[10:50] <ryan_> question
[10:51] <St0n3-C0l> how do I install tar manually
[10:51] <St0n3-C0l> ?
[10:51] <shadeofgrey> okay guys - i need help with k3b
[10:51] <techII> ryan_: go ahead
[10:51] <shadeofgrey> can anybody take a few minutes and help me?
[10:51] <ryan_> how do i install windows on my HD with linux already installed?  I have 80 gigs that is not linux partitioned
[10:51] <ryan_> i installed linux on the end 40 gigs
[10:51] <ryan_> but not sure how to proceed
[10:51] <ryan_> any help?
[10:51] <shadeofgrey> ryan:  you may not be able to...  windows requires that it be the primary partition
[10:52] <admx> What's up with k3b
[10:52] <ryan_> it would be the first partition on the dsisk though
[10:52] <ryan_> because linux was installedo n the tail end of the disk
[10:53] <ryan_> the last 40 gigs
[10:54] <Lex418787> i have a general question that's probably kinda stupid.  What makes ubuntu so special?  I noticed it was at the top of distrowatch.com
[10:54] <k4rp0r> evening
[10:55] <|9mmCensor|> I have a dual boot system.  Ubuntu and Windows XP.  Where would I find the windows directory?
[10:55] <|9mmCensor|> its not /mnt/Windows/ which is what it was with Mandrake
[10:56] <foxiness> Lex418787, what is your distro ?
[10:56] <ryan_> how would i go about installing windows on my linux system *i want to preserve linux
[10:56] <ryan_> ?
[10:57] <Lex418787> well, right now, WinXP because I couldn't figure out my wifi card.  But I used Mandrake 10 before, and Knoppix sometimes
[10:57] <techII> Lex418787: Its based on debian, though the packages are a bit more up to date, and it is easier to use than any other distro I tried
[10:57] <foxiness> ryan_, vmware
[10:57] <Lex418787> really?  easier than mandrake?
[10:57] <|9mmCensor|> ryan_, install it, then back up your bootloader
[10:57] <|9mmCensor|> its simple
[10:57] <ryan_> back up my boot loader
[10:57] <techII> Lex: havent tried mandrake
[10:57] <Lex418787> ok
[10:57] <Lex418787> But I do like Debian based (knoppix)
[10:58] <lotusleaf> you mean mandriva (shudder)
[10:58] <Lex418787> lol, i hate that name
[10:58] <foxiness> what is this DCC chat list ?
[10:58] <ryan_> What is vmware?
[10:58] <ryan_> DCC is direct client chat
[10:58] <ryan_> like private chat
[10:59] <techII> dcc= p2p, not through server
[10:59] <techII> direct connection, etc
[10:59] <m4x> how do u su to root after install is done?
[10:59] <foxiness> ryan_, its safe to accpet this ?
[10:59] <ryan_> yes
[10:59] <techII> same risks apply for using irc normaly
[10:59] <techII> unless your ip is masked by the server ...
[11:00] <dark> or a bnc
[11:00] <m4x> how do u su to root after install is done?
[11:00] <lotusleaf> 3 hours left and ubuntu will be mine! :)
[11:00] <m4x> the install program did not ask me to setup a root pwd
[11:01] <techII> m4x: 'sudo'
[11:01] <m4x> the user i setup as part of the install has access to sudo?
[11:01] <techII> m4x: 'sudo COMMAND' and type in your user's password
[11:01] <m4x> ok
[11:01] <techII> m4x: yes
[11:01] <m4x> one more questiosn, i chose a resolution to high for my monitor, how to i lower it?
[11:01] <lotusleaf> m4x: you should read & bookmark the ubuntuguide
[11:02] <m4x> lotusleaf, got a link?
[11:02] <lotusleaf> ubuntuguide dot org
[11:03] <George_> anyone know of a good DC++
[11:03] <trondd> Ok, I got a question: Why isn't there a symlink to gcc? There is only gcc-3.4... any reason for this?
[11:03] <m4x> ok ty lotusleaf
[11:03] <George_> reading ubuntu forums... they anit helping
[11:04] <techII> trondd: Was just helping someone (on an other channel) with compiling something, caused problems
[11:04] <nekohayo> hi, I'd like to have a few pointers.. for some reason, my hoary box will play M$ MPEG-4v2 files fine (audio/video), but not ISO MPEG-4 (divx, ffmpeg)s.... I have the sound, but no video
[11:04] <nekohayo> I tried searching for a particular divx issue but to no avail
[11:04] <nekohayo> it's puzzling me a little
[11:05] <techII> nekohayo: using the 'universe' repository?
[11:05] <nekohayo> yeah
[11:05] <techII> not shure
[11:05] <nekohayo> I even have multiverse
[11:06] <nekohayo> and debian marillat
[11:06] <nekohayo> my testing media is the video tutorials from blender3d.org
[11:06] <George_> ah... i got a DCGUI-QT but y isn't there a public list?
[11:06] <trondd> How can this happend? When I compile hello_world, the binary seg.faults! Something is wrong...
[11:06] <nekohayo> it works fine on some other box, but I don't know how to "duplicate" that, since I tweaked it so much
[11:06] <techII> but I havent used ubuntu that much
[11:06] <nekohayo> hmm
[11:07] <foxiness> time to go c y l8r
[11:07] <nekohayo> later!
[11:08] <__CB__> how come I get a "command not found" error every time I try to run bittorrent?
[11:08] <__CB__> (yes, I installed it)
[11:09] <techII> __CB__: looking
[11:09] <organon> __CB__, try btdownloadcurses for example
[11:09] <Olsen> how can i get mono 1.1.6/7 installed on ubuntu without compiling/installing from source
[11:10] <matara> what's the best way for burning wiping cd's
[11:10] <m4x> unbuntu just installed flawlessly on a Dell Inspiron 2500, im very impressed
[11:10] <techII> __CB__: in gnome (regular ubuntu) 'applications > internet > GNOME BitTorrent'
[11:10] <__CB__> I'm not runnin GNOME
[11:11] <shadeofgrey> okay guys -- i installed KDE base so that i could run K3B and i also installed CDRDAO -- but K3B doesnt show in my applications menu and everytime i start it from commandline, it runs but gives errors
[11:11] <hellrazer> does anybody know how to setup up a ati radeon 9700 mobilitiy on ubuntu ?? any packages available to install the driver?
[11:11] <ShadowRage> THIS IS CRAP
[11:12] <ShadowRage> okay
[11:12] <ShadowRage> someone spammed me in IRC
[11:12] <George_> hellrazer GO TO UBUNTU FORUMS :D
[11:12] <ShadowRage> set off my notify a million times
[11:12] <ShadowRage> now
[11:12] <ShadowRage> I have no sound
[11:12] <ShadowRage> and my system is half locked up
[11:12] <George_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=735840
[11:12] <ShadowRage> I had this issue before with kernel 2.6.10
[11:12] <lotusleaf> ShadowRage: I see you found your Enter key
[11:12] <hellrazer> ty george
[11:12] <George_> np
[11:12] <ShadowRage> anyone know a fix other than having to restart?
[11:12] <George_> restart X?
[11:12] <hellrazer> someone else who can help me?
[11:12] <__CB__> wait...an IRC smapper caused your system to lock up?
[11:13] <hybrid_goth> hello all
[11:13] <__CB__> just reboot it, man.
[11:13] <Nalioth> __CB__ don't reboot nothin
[11:13] <George_> www.ubuntuguide.org
[11:13] <Nalioth> hellrazer, restart X
[11:13] <George_> it's all there hellrazer
[11:13] <techII> I would check the running processes
[11:13] <ShadowRage> __Ace__: yes, and reboot every time that happens
[11:13] <matara> just look at your proces manager and see if there is something bugging and kill it
[11:13] <ShadowRage> classic idea
[11:14] <organon> hellrazer, http://www.student.dtu.dk/~s971652/ati_radeon.shtml
[11:14] <hellrazer> george sorry 4 my anwewr im little stressed here
[11:14] <organon> any good?
[11:14] <George_> lol, linux is stressful. I was there once too
[11:14] <hellrazer> :)
[11:14] <matara> i can't get cd burning to work properly
[11:14] <George_> but in the long run it worthit
[11:15] <hawke> ShadowRage: what part of your system is locked up?  Sound playing?
[11:15] <hellrazer> it is but when u have finished with the newbie shit u start using linux like guru i think
[11:15] <sbcl3> Is there any way for me to remove all games except Gnometris?
[11:15] <ShadowRage> hawke: yep
[11:15] <hellrazer> :)O
[11:15] <ShadowRage> hawke: and if I try to unload the modules or do a ps aux to see what proc is locked up, it locks that proc up
[11:15] <George_> bah no way. Find linux u literally learn something new everyday
[11:16] <__CB__> so it just locks up at random intervals?
[11:16] <ShadowRage> rmod will lock up
[11:16] <ShadowRage> if you try to kill it, it will lock the kill command up
[11:16] <ShadowRage> rmmod*
[11:16] <George_> i got DC++ problems WAAA
[11:16] <hawke> shadeofgrey: 'dmesg' say anything useful-looking?
[11:16] <hawke> er
[11:16] <hawke> ShadowRage:
[11:16] <holycow> i don't find linux stressfull at all, mostly because all errors have a reason, and therefore a solution
[11:16] <ShadowRage> hawke: nothing
[11:17] <techII> sbcl3: not with the existing packages
[11:17] <George_> holycow: u have a point
[11:17] <holycow> what i find stressfull is things like windows, where things happen, not necessarily for any discernable reason, and in most instances you cant do anything more than reinstall
[11:17] <techII> sbcl3: could compile it yourself
[11:17] <hawke> holycow: good call on that one.
[11:17] <sbcl3> okay
[11:17] <holycow> in linux i found that i had to learn yes, but one could always find information on the issue
[11:17] <lotusleaf> Windows has detected your mouse has moved, please reboot.
[11:18] <holycow> lol thats not too far from the truth
[11:18] <George_> getting to problem is pai
[11:18] <holycow> they have been promising installation of everything without reboot since windows95
[11:18] <hawke> holycow: though I've also found a couple of cases where a problem is totally mysterious, in all cases removing and replacing my ~ has been sufficient to "fix" them
[11:18] <holycow> winxp still reboots if you decide to install almost anything
[11:18] <PhantomFreak> I finally got Horay Hedgehog working! It turned out to be the Grafix card which was causing the problems!
[11:18] <hellrazer> preety good instructions on the ubuntu forum very n ice thank you george
[11:19] <levelone> Driver installation without reboot is impossible with the current Windows kernels and it will never be
[11:19] <holycow> hawke, i have run into that as well, but very rarely, and each time i thanked the dd's for apt and dpkg :)
[11:19] <George_> hey anyone know y XMMS freeze when trying to play MP3
[11:20] <George_> hmm
[11:20] <hellrazer> i know maybe you need some plugins 4 that
[11:20] <holycow> George_, do you have the w32 codecs?
[11:20] <George_> roger
[11:20] <hawke> levelone: that is not true.
[11:20] <George_> could anyone also help me with network printing. i have samba server that has a USB printer that is working i needa print something off this machine. How?
[11:20] <zyga> George_: it's not playing anything from NFS is it?
[11:20] <hawke> levelone: but HKLM registry re-reading is impossible without a reboot, as far as I know.
[11:21] <tremblay> blueyed: My password's working after this install (haven't tried changing it...)
[11:21] <Marble2> What's the best program to batch rename mp3 files and grab track/album info from freedb/amazon?
[11:21] <Marble2> besides easytag
[11:21] <George_> what?
[11:21] <George_> NFS?
[11:21] <George_> u mean NTFS?
[11:21] <blueyed> tremblay: create a new user and test it with this one.
[11:21] <George_> i dont understand what u mean zyga
[11:21] <holycow> Marble2, i wrote a python proggy to do that once :) ehe
[11:22] <Nalioth> Marble2, easytag?
[11:22] <techII> George_: NFS is used for sharing files on a network
[11:22] <George_> samba server
[11:22] <blueyed> tremblay: also see the bugreport I made.. http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10742
[11:22] <Marble2> easytag is uh
[11:22] <techII> its more unixy than smb (samba
[11:22] <devazion> Hi, I installed the package linux-source-2.6.11. Now I need to know where the kernel source is found. Can anybody help me?
[11:22] <hellrazer> can someone tell me implenting the patched orinoco drivers?
[11:22] <George_> i made
[11:22] <Marble2> holycow: have a link to it?
[11:22] <George_> just trying to get printer working
[11:23] <shadeofgrey> okay guys i removed K3B altogether
[11:23] <George_> i can print from windows machine fine, but i can't (dunno how) in linux. Can anyone tell me how?
[11:23] <shadeofgrey> it wasnt worth it
[11:23] <George_> kde sucko?
[11:23] <shadeofgrey> yup
[11:23] <blueyed> devazion: /usr/src
[11:23] <lotusleaf> shadeofgrey: what about Nero Linux? :P
[11:23] <techII> George_: what are you trying to print from (application)?
[11:23] <tremblay> blueyed: Hoping not to screw up this install yet. :P
[11:23] <George_> no no. i'm trying to print from my Linux Machine
[11:23] <shadeofgrey> so whats the best CD burning program for gnome that looks and behaves the most like nero burning rom?
[11:24] <techII> with what app?
[11:24] <George_> Open Office but i need to set it up. i dont know how to set up?
[11:24] <blueyed> just don't set your own password (with the "users and groups" utility)
[11:24] <shadeofgrey> lotus:  is nero linux free?
[11:24] <lotusleaf> shadeofgrey: well you know Nero does have a gnome based linux version of their app
[11:24] <blueyed> tremblay: ^^
[11:24] <lotusleaf> shadeofgrey: it is if you register the windows retail version ;P
[11:24] <lotusleaf> shadeofgrey: it's gnome based though
[11:24] <techII> George_: open the "printer adminstraton" part of it first
[11:24] <George_> ...bah dunno that
[11:24] <shadeofgrey> okay
[11:25] <moonwitch> anyone any idea on how I can sort my sound (I hear the sound, but it's extremely distorted)
[11:25] <shadeofgrey> let me rephrase my question -- what burning program for gnome has the best GUI?
[11:25] <raiden24> k3b is good
[11:25] <devazion> blueyed: I looked there but i didnt find it... Well i will look again.
[11:25] <techII> george: add a new printer, and chose 'generic printer'
[11:26] <George_> no Network?
[11:26] <levelone> im having problems here with firefox fonts. Whenever i visit a forum page which uses <code> tags, the fonts are invisible.
[11:26] <mypapit> burning software? i only know about k3b
[11:26] <jsolares> it's not for gnome tho, and looks nothing like gnome. i've yet to find one shadeofgrey
[11:26] <George_> ah nevermind
[11:26] <levelone> Here is a screenshot of the problem http://lumumba.luc.ac.be/kemal/Screenshot.png
[11:26] <George_> i gotta idea
[11:26] <blueyed> devazion: I'm not sure..
[11:26] <Jormundgand> How do I choose which side of the desktop icons are created on?
[11:26] <lotusleaf> shadeofgrey: well, I like k3b. ;)
[11:28] <Marble2> What's the best program to batch rename mp3 files and grab track/album info from freedb/amazon? besides easytag
[11:28] <techII> george: youre ok then?
[11:28] <George_> yeah i'm koo
[11:28] <George_> just put it on samba server, go downstairs, and print using xp box
[11:28] <George_> lol
[11:29] <George_> Tech i never got passed Gentoo Partitioning
[11:30] <hybrid_goth> can anyone give me real quick how to ssh to a server? i.e. ssh ip ...
[11:31] <hawke> hybrid_goth: yep, that's how.
[11:31] <hybrid_goth> thats all?
[11:31] <hawke> hybrid_goth: yep.
[11:31] <hybrid_goth> ok ty
[11:31] <hawke> hybrid_goth: ip or hostname
[11:31] <l1qu1d> plz im a newb can someone tell me how i copy /paste with the console !! ;(
[11:31] <hawke> hybrid_goth: if you want to connect as a specific user, it's user@ip
[11:32] <techII> hybrid_goth: ip usualy, unless the hostname can be resovled to an ip
[11:32] <zxc> anyone know how to get .rar support for AMD64?
[11:32] <techII> hybrid_goth: of course a ssh server has to be runing on the machine your connecting to
[11:32] <hybrid_goth> hawke: i get an ssh_idenification: read: Connection reset by a peer
[11:33] <hybrid_goth> techII: it does its my schoold server i got on it today at scgool thru putty and login as a teacher :P the have a mac server but every other comp is windoze
[11:34] <hawke> hybrid_goth: that means that the ssh server isn't listening
[11:34] <hybrid_goth> hawke: can i *make* it listen by chance
[11:34] <techII> yes, looks like its firewaled off
[11:34] <hawke> hybrid_goth: not from where you are.  It's probably firewalled if it's at school.
[11:34] <techII> (to it not listening)
[11:34] <hybrid_goth> but i connected at school this morning
[11:34] <hybrid_goth> o i c y
[11:35] <hawke> hybrid_goth: if you were at school, you were probably inside the firewall.
[11:35] <hybrid_goth> ok ty both
[11:35] <hybrid_goth> yea i was
[11:35] <techII> but you are probaly outside of it now
[11:35] <hybrid_goth> yup
[11:35] <JorisK> Hey everyone!
[11:36] <sbcl3> hi
[11:36] <hybrid_goth> hi
[11:36] <JorisK> Anyone here that can tell me Hoary can run Composite on x.org?
[11:36] <hybrid_goth> is a router classified as a firewall
[11:36] <JorisK> i wanna have a very nice desktop :)
[11:36] <techII> hybrid_goth: the firewall is at the school
[11:37] <darkaudit> JorisK: you can, but some games won't like it (such as UT2004)
[11:37] <hybrid_goth> techII: i know but i mean if i was to connect from school to this box would i have to config my router
[11:37] <techII> es
[11:37] <techII> yes
[11:37] <hybrid_goth> ok
[11:37] <techII> 'port forwarding'
[11:37] <JorisK> Ahh well i don;t care about the games
[11:37] <hybrid_goth> port 22
[11:37] <JorisK> it'sjust for running applications u know :)
[11:38] <Jormundgand> How do I choose which side of the desktop icons are created on?
[11:38] <techII> connect to the routers admin interface and forward it to the box you want it to go to
[11:38] <techII> (for hybrid_goth)
[11:38] <Jormundgand> Like, they currently appear by default at the upper left corner, but I want them to appear at the upper right like on a Mac.
[11:38] <hybrid_goth> ok
[11:38] <hybrid_goth> ty
[11:38] <matara> ok got it.. if anyone needs to burn cds
[11:39] <George_> anyone using p2p software in UbuntU?
[11:39] <JorisK> Anyone who knows Looking Glass will work on Ubunti 5.4?
[11:39] <hybrid_goth> George_: bittorent
[11:39] <techII> George_: yes (not me) look in the 'universe' repositories
[11:39] <hybrid_goth> George_: but you can use nicotine gnutella limewire
[11:40] <techII> something-mule (lots of different ones), gnutella, bittorrent (need a .torrent file to download something)
[11:41] <hybrid_goth> bittorent is awesome
[11:41] <hybrid_goth> nicotine was nice
[11:41] <hybrid_goth> gnutella was _*UGLY*_
[11:42] <darkaudit> I used the giFT gnutella plugin for Apollon
[11:42] <techII> yes, theres 'giFT' which uses plugins for various networks
[11:42] <flodine> anyone on fluxbox
[11:42] <JorisK> Anyone here that can tell me ATI Radeon drivers are availible for Ubuntu?
[11:43] <matara> yes
[11:43] <matara> i have the ones from ati itself
[11:43] <darkaudit> flodine: not at the moment, but yes
[11:43] <Badness45> anyone no where i could get the libdvdcss from
[11:43] <matara> just download the rpm from them
[11:44] <slak> hi friends
[11:44] <Badness45> the dvd player xine said i need that
[11:44] <Nikita> hey slak
[11:44] <flodine> darkaudit why cant i set my wallpapers on flux
[11:44] <matara> then instal them with sudo alien -i
[11:44] <slak> i made this art for the ubuntu website CHECK IT OUT! http://www.signal-9.net/ubuntu.png
[11:44] <darkaudit> flodine: fbsetbg
[11:44] <slak> they said they are gonna use it
[11:44] <slak> im stoaked
[11:44] <flodine> i did that fbsetbg
[11:44] <flodine> still dont work
[11:45] <darkaudit> flodine: bsetbg (from blackbox)
[11:45] <Nikita> slak: lol you so crazy!
[11:45] <slak> http://www.signal-9.net/ubuntu.png what you guys think
[11:45] <flodine> so no fbsetbg
[11:45] <slak> of the new ubuntu logo
[11:45] <flodine> just bsetbg
[11:46] <darkaudit> flodine: you'll need Blackbox to get that app
[11:46] <darkaudit> or get eterm and use Esetroot
[11:46] <flodine> why is this flux diffrent then others
[11:46] <slak> i installed dat dependecee maltliquorlib.so and u know wut my ubuntu did?
[11:46] <slak> it forgot to pay its child support
[11:46] <slak> i had to recompile dat kernel!
[11:46] <slak> CAN U BELEEV DAT?
[11:46] <darkaudit> I prefer Esetroot... plays best with gdesklets and such
[11:47] <Badness45> anyone no where i could get the libdvdcss from
[11:47] <LinuxJones> slak, please stop talking and posting links to that crap
[11:47] <Badness45> the dvd player xine said i need that
[11:47] <Badness45> to play dvds
[11:47] <slak> Linux Jones: DONT BE A HATA I JUS WANNA LINUX IT UP WIFF U PEEPLZ
[11:47] <darkaudit> Badness45: backports, marillat, or cerkinfo
[11:47] -Nikita:#ubuntu- Nikita has sent you an instant message, type /server getmsg to receive it
[11:47] <dark> oye.....
[11:48] <slak> LinuxJones: CAN U TELL ME HOW 2 FIX MY LIBBABYMAMADRAMA-2.so.400 ??
[11:48] <LinuxJones> slak, we don't appreciate racial slurs around here
[11:48] <dark> Nikita: thanks, got the message, ill call you at 8
[11:48] <darkaudit> \/server getmsg
[11:48] <slak> I NOT RACIAL SLURIN
[11:48] <Jormundgand> /server getmsg
[11:48] <slak> I LUV UBUNTU IT POWERED BY CIRCLE OF NIGGERS RUNNIN IN BIG HAMSTER WHEEL
[11:48] <Jormundgand> HAY GUYZ IT R NOT WORKING
[11:48] <slak> UBUNTU FO LYFE
[11:48] <slak> WHERES DA WADDYMELON
[11:48] <JorisK> shut up fucking idiot
[11:48] <hybrid_goth> god bless /ignore
[11:48] <JorisK> ah kewl
[11:49] <JorisK> gonna use it then :)
[11:49] <slak> WHAA?   GO UBUNTU YOU ROCK! later guys.
[11:50] <JorisK> I want to install Looking Glass on my Laptop
[11:51] <JorisK> with Ubuntu
[11:51] <JorisK> but do you guys have any idea this works?
[11:51] <zyga> JorisK: it does
[11:51] <darkaudit> Badness45: different repos... backports.ubuntuforums.org
[11:51] <JorisK> Software Rendering wouldn't be a good idea :)
[11:51] <spartacus> JorisK, yes it works
[11:51] <slak> HI THOM WHADDUP G, CAN U HELP ME WIFF KFC UTILATEES
[11:51] <JorisK> geez
[11:51] <shido6> ati 3d sorta works
[11:51] <JorisK> Sorta?
[11:51] <slak> I INSTALLED IT AND I PRESSED DA BUTTON
[11:51] <JorisK> :)
[11:51] <shido6> my 9800 works
[11:51] <thoreauputic> Badness45: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:51] <JorisK> yeah
[11:51] <shido6> the AIW stuff doesnt
[11:51] <JorisK> but this is a laptop
[11:51] <darkaudit> k-line time for this idiot
[11:51] <slak> BUT NO CHICKEN CAME OUTA MY THANG
[11:51] <JorisK> it prolly got some sort of mobile chipset from ATI
[11:51] <spartacus> JorisK, which chip?
[11:51] <Badness45> ok imma look
[11:51] <JorisK> hold on
[11:51] <slak> I CAN SEE IT ON THA TV
[11:51] <JorisK> gonna check it out
[11:52] <zenlunatic> Anyone notice konqueror loads pages slower than gecko stuff?
[11:52] <darkaudit> thom: thx :)
[11:52] <hybrid_goth> thank you thom
[11:52] <thoreauputic> thanks thom
[11:52] <spartacus> JorisK, i'm running XiG server on my ATI box. setup is a pita, but it works pretty well
[11:53] <JorisK> ARGH, i just found out my laptop doesn't have a 3D card :/
[11:53] <spartacus> JorisK, 80% faster GL than Xorg DRI
[11:53] <Nalioth> zenlunatic, have you noticed that Safari (based on konquerors engine) loads pages FASTER than gecko?
[11:53] <JorisK> What's XiG?
[11:53] <JorisK> I got an Radeon 9800SE on my workstation spartacus
[11:53] <zenlunatic> Nalioth: I don't use safari.
[11:53] <ablyss> yo all
[11:53] <spartacus> JorisK, XI Graphics. They sell a commerical X Server
[11:53] <Nalioth> zenlunatic, have you heard of kmozilla? (its gecko wearing a konqueror jacket)
[11:54] <zenlunatic> Nalioth: Never heard of it.
[11:54] <hybrid_goth> Nalioth: w3m beats gecko and konquor
[11:54] <zyga> spartacus: interesting
[11:54] <zyga> spartacus: did you try to run any commercial apps?
[11:55] <holycow> hybrid_goth, w3m? say what?
[11:55] <hybrid_goth> holycow: the cli broswer
[11:55] <holycow> ah
[11:55] <holycow> hehe :)
[11:55] <spartacus> zyga, no need as yet... just opera and what not. i wanted the gl/vo for tv-out and mplayer and 3d games
[11:55] <hybrid_goth> holycow: scared me for a sec
[11:56] <zoo> hello
[11:57] <darkaudit> how about these firefox tweaks: http://www.techzonez.com/forums/printthread.php?t=12614&page=1&pp=15
[11:57] <zoo> How do I get the "Send to ... bluetootdevice" dialog in nautilus?
[11:57] <zoo> I saw this on gentoo yesterday and want it with 5.04 too