[04:01] <SolidState> jv_, in your router
[04:01] <tanath> SolidState, what'd i do wrong? doesn't recognize 'browseable' or 'browsable'
[04:02] <rinkukokiri> adi_, Sniper1968 jesterwj all have their bare ip's showing
[04:02] <SolidState> browsable = yes
[04:02] <gnewb> jv_: Or get a cloak from Freenode. if you are so inclined.
[04:02] <rww> You can't get a cloak from freenode without a > 2 week old account.
[04:02] <rinkukokiri> now i'm realizing a LOT of these guise have their bare ip's showing
[04:02] <gnewb> whoops
[04:02] <SolidState> rinkukokiri, you a big hacker?
[04:02] <Logan_> rww: other direction ;)
[04:02] <rww> rinkukokiri: That is the default on IRC, yes.
[04:02] <rww> Logan_: nope
[04:03] <rinkukokiri> i seriously thought freenode had a script to hide em
[04:03] <rinkukokiri> like most other servers do
[04:03] <HelloWorld321> Okay I've got a problem with Samba.  I can browse to "smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/", but not to "smb://localhost/"; the first line in /etc/hosts is "<IP_ADDRESS>	localhost.localdomain 	localhost" ... what do you think of that?
[04:03] <SolidState> rinkukokiri, why do you keep talking about peoples ips
[04:03] <gnewb> !samba
[04:04] <rinkukokiri> i dunno, i just thought it was interesting, so I noted it, then someone else asked whom, so I thought I would elaborate.
[04:04] <jv_> well, to scare me! ;) ..I am going to check my IP settings and will be back some other time..
[04:04] <jv_> thanks a lot guys
[04:04] <SolidState> he isn't gonna hack anyone
[04:04] <rinkukokiri> and yes, I have studied professional hacking, although I have yet to finish the curriculum, and am not yet accredited
[04:04] <rww> It's all visible to any website you go to anyway. IP addresses are not private information.
[04:05] <Dulak> that is hilarious
[04:05] <SolidState> a professional hacker who can't fix a simple linux problem
[04:05] <SolidState> nice man.
[04:05] <SolidState> want my ip
[04:05] <Sniper1968> what is mine?
[04:06] <rww> Sniper1968: adsl-98-84-74-154.gsp.bellsouth.net
[04:06] <SolidState> lol.
[04:06] <Sniper1968> ok so how can i hid it
[04:06] <Dulak> <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:06] <SolidState> the power of right click
[04:06] <rinkukokiri> lol
[04:06] <Dulak> he cheated!  I typed it
[04:06] <rww> Sniper1968: go to #freenode and ask for an unaffiliated cloak
[04:06] <rinkukokiri> see on rizon everyone has a masked ip
[04:06] <SolidState> im affiliated to the rollin 80's
[04:07] <SolidState>  can i GET a rollin 80's cloak
[04:07] <rww> no
[04:07] <SolidState> why not
[04:07] <rinkukokiri> cause he said so
[04:07] <Logan_> !ot | SolidState
[04:07] <SolidState> fizzuck that shizznat
[04:07] <rww> because "rollin 80's" is not a registered project with group contacts that can request one for you
[04:07] <tanath> SolidState, found it. reboot unmounted the folder i wanted to share. forgot about that. thanks for help
[04:07] <rww> anyway, go ask #freenode about freenode questions ;P
[04:07] <BaseBallBoy> okay so I got this oldish IBM, not sure of the model but I keep getting this: [152.021010] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempt to kill init!
[04:07] <SolidState> what are group contacts?
[04:07] <BaseBallBoy> Ubuntu 10.10 Installation
[04:07] <SolidState> or rather who could they be? if I so choose.
[04:08] <rww> SolidState: go ask #freenode ;P
[04:08] <SolidState> naw dude. why don't you ask on my behalf you seem to be like official or something huh?
[04:08] <rinkukokiri> SolidState, and dragging windows between separate x servers isn't a "simple linux problem"
[04:08] <gyyrog> when running netstat -r, when you have a route and the gateway is listed as just "*" what does that mean?
[04:08] <rinkukokiri> although neither is databending my windows 7 install so I can recover lost music,
[04:08] <rinkukokiri> but that's offtopic.
[04:08] <SolidState> databending?
[04:09] <rinkukokiri> yep.. opening random files with an audio editor.
[04:09] <SolidState> huh...
[04:09] <Dulak> gyyrog: * is anywhere aka <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:10] <SolidState> where did steviewonder go?
[04:10] <rinkukokiri> b&
[04:10] <rinkukokiri> prolly #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:10] <Logan_> SolidState: eye clinic
[04:11] <Dulak> gyyrog: use netstat -rn to see bare ips
[04:11] <SolidState> how does an eye clinic help a blind man?
[04:11] <SolidState> ;-(
[04:11] <IdleOne> Let's not make fun of disabilities and please get back on topic
[04:11] <SolidState> ya man
[04:12] <SolidState> i like chicken fried steak
[04:12] <Logan_> SolidState: I think he meant on topic within the scope of Ubuntu :P
[04:12] <SolidState> I sometimes eat it while using ubuntu.
[04:12] <gyyrog> Dulak:  so basically that route just means "on this subnet"
[04:12] <rinkukokiri> i say ubuntu while frying chicken.. does that count?
[04:13] <Dulak> gyyrog: if it's the gateway it means 'on this machine' afaik
[04:13] <rinkukokiri> gyyrog, i'm confused as to that route as well,
[04:13] <SolidState> I use ubuntu while I read my recipe for general tsaos chicken too
[04:13] <SolidState> its awesome man.
[04:13] <IdleOne> errr
[04:13] <rww> SolidState: Come back tomorrow when you... or not.
[04:13] <Logan_> IdleOne: wrong person :P
[04:14] <rww> oh, indeed.
[04:14] <Dulak> oopsie!
[04:14] <rww> SolidState: come back tomorrow when you've had some time to think about not being offtopic.
[04:14] <john-doe> does anyone knows if the different workspaces can have different icons and not the same on all the workspaces?
[04:14] <rinkukokiri> yes and no
[04:15] <rinkukokiri> yes it's possible, but not the way ubuntu is configured
[04:15] <john-doe> rinkukokiri: do you know where I could find a how-to or a guide for this?
[04:15] <rinkukokiri> there's rumors that some rogue distro has that setup, but it's not within the knowledge of ubuntu
[04:15] <rinkukokiri> believe me, i've tried.
[04:16] <sabiancrash_cgx> Intriguing.  Brand new VM, brand new vhd, installing ubuntu server 9.04, Install the GRUB boot loader on a hard disk: Installatin Step failed
[04:16] <galamar> Hello everyone! know how to write HTML and Javascript, and maybe would message me so I can ask them something that I am confused about?
[04:16] <galamar> does anyone*
[04:16] <sabiancrash_cgx> galamar, this has nothing to do with #ubuntu
[04:16] <Logan_> !pm | galamar
[04:16] <john-doe> rinkukokiri: I thought that it might be possible if you could just make each workspace point to a different folder...
[04:17] <raju> galamar try the java irc channels
[04:17] <Logan_> *javascript :|
[04:17] <raju> galamar: i think #java
[04:17] <Omega> #javascript *
[04:17] <sabiancrash_cgx> So why would grub installation fail on virtual box
[04:17] <raju> yeah
[04:17] <galamar> ##javascript
[04:17]  * sabiancrash_cgx shakes fist at oracle
[04:17] <galamar> no one talks in there.
[04:17] <BaseBallBoy> okay so I got this oldish IBM, not sure of the model but I keep getting this: [152.021010] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempt to kill init!
[04:18] <Logan_> galamar: you're not going to get any more help in here, considering that it is a channel dedicated to a Linux distro
[04:18] <Logan_> maybe in #ubuntu-offtopic , though
[04:19] <rinkukokiri> looks like there has been more talk about it ... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1651769.html
[04:19] <sabiancrash_cgx> has anyone else had an issue with grub in virtualbox
[04:20] <john-doe> rinkukokiri: thanks, I'll start there
[04:22] <bencc> what is the correct way to add a folder to the path for a single user?
[04:23] <rinkukokiri> john-doe, it appears KDE offers this functionality as well. http://maketecheasier.com/use-kde-plasma-activities/2010/09/01/
[04:23] <rinkukokiri> they're called 'activities'
[04:23] <Dulak> bencc: edit ~/.bashrc, add 'export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/folder'  relog
[04:24] <gskellig> I just installed ubuntu 11.04, unity won't start. Last time I installed 11.04 on this laptop (about two weeks ago) it worked fine...
[04:24] <bencc> Dulak: thanks
[04:24] <uragan> hi
[04:24] <TheeSaga> gskellig: We'll probably need more information than that
[04:25] <Gskelling> ack
[04:25] <Gskelling> back
[04:25] <BaseBallBoy> okay so I got this oldish IBM, not sure of the model but I keep getting this: [152.021010] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempt to kill init!
[04:25] <Gskelling> unity help?
[04:25] <helpme> hi
[04:25] <helpme> forgive me if this question sounds stupid or newby
[04:25] <helpme> but how do u add dekstop icons in Ubuntu 11.04
[04:25] <helpme> not in teh launcher but on the desktop
[04:26] <rinkukokiri> hmm.. think imma log back into separate x servers.  I like being able to run two different firefox profiles at the same time.
[04:26] <raju> helpme:  i think we cant dear
[04:26] <helpme> but how do u add dekstop icons in Ubuntu 11.04
[04:26] <helpme> u can't?!?
[04:26] <tensorpudding> helpme: you can't drag them from the dash, yet, but there is another way
[04:26] <helpme> wtf?
[04:27] <WhiteMoon> helpme: drag?
[04:27] <helpme> what's the other way
[04:27] <Gskelling> anyone help me with unity?
[04:27] <tensorpudding> helpme: open /usr/share/applications and drag copy launchers to the desktop
[04:27] <raju> Gskelling:  i will try just post here
[04:27] <helpme> will try
[04:27] <helpme> thanks
[04:27] <rinkukokiri> brb
[04:28] <Gskelling> I just installed ubuntu 11.04, unity won't start. Last time I installed 11.04 on this laptop (about two weeks ago) it worked fine...
[04:28] <Gskelling> im not logging in with "ubuntu classic"
[04:28] <helpme> IT WORKED!
[04:28] <raju> Gskellig:  i think we can choose the environment at the time of login
[04:29] <gartral> Oook.. something went completly wrong, I was writing a text doc, system suddenly rebooted, and now ubuntu is saying my keyring password is not the same as my login pass.. wtf I'm really in a fix
[04:29] <Gskellig> yeah raju "ubuntu" is unity and "ubuntu classic" is gnome
[04:29] <Gskellig> i choose "ubuntu"
[04:29] <Gskellig> but still no unity
[04:29] <KaosMcRage> how do you install a package from a particular repository if it exists in multiple repositories (using apt)?
[04:29]  * raju looking for manish
[04:30] <BaseBallBoy> screw it, debian installed just fine, thanks for the no help you guys, can always depend on you!
[04:30] <Raikia> Gskellig: try "killall mutter"
[04:30] <hiexpo> KaosMcRage, install the version you want
[04:30] <Raikia> its like doing a "killall gnome-panel", but for unity
[04:30] <Raikia> it auto-restarts
[04:31] <Gskellig> killall mutter?
[04:31] <Raikia> yes
[04:31] <Raikia> did it do anything?
[04:31] <Gskellig> mutter: no process found
[04:32] <Gskellig> i did unity --reset earlier and rebooted
[04:32] <Gskellig> nothing either
[04:32] <Raikia> try just "mutter" (if its a command)
[04:32] <Gskellig> not currently installed?
[04:32] <Raikia> :-/
[04:32] <KaosMcRage> hiexpo: yeah, I guess that's what I'm asking - how?
[04:32] <Gskellig> should i install it?
[04:33] <Raikia> no
[04:33] <Raikia> hold on
[04:33] <Gskellig> i have gnome
[04:33] <Gskellig> just not unity
[04:33] <Raikia> are you using natty?  or did you install unity on a different version?
[04:33] <Gskellig> natty
[04:34] <Gskellig> 11.04 x64
[04:34] <Gskellig> i had unity with the livecd
[04:34] <Gskellig> the livecd that i used to install ... =\
[04:34] <KaosMcRage> hiexpo: nvm, got it - missed it in the man page somehow
[04:34] <Raikia> Gskellig: try typing "unity" command?
[04:34] <Raikia> pastebin (or paste) any errors
[04:34] <Raikia> or the entire output, if you want
[04:35] <Gskellig> screen flashes a bunch
[04:35] <Gskellig> then back to normal gnome
[04:35] <Gskellig> ill pastebin
[04:35] <Gskellig> h/o
[04:35] <john-doe> gartral: you still there?
[04:35] <Raikia> k, thanks
[04:35] <gartral> john-doe: yes I am
[04:35] <Gskellig> http://pastebin.com/1SjCQyw1
[04:36] <Gskellig> notice the "there is alredy one running" when i did unity --replace i got the same errors
[04:36] <Gskellig> but gnome was unuseable after that
[04:36] <Raikia> hmm
[04:36] <Raikia> do you have a nvidia graphics card?
[04:37] <Gskellig> i do
[04:37] <Gskellig> but
[04:37] <Gskellig> it's disabled
[04:37] <john-doe> gartral: what version are you using?
[04:37] <Gskellig> my laptop has two gfx cards, switchable under windows
[04:37] <Gskellig> nvidia one is disabled
[04:37] <gartral> John-doe: 11.04
[04:37] <Gskellig> for power saving
[04:37] <Raikia> ok, hold on
[04:38] <rinkukokiri> Gskellig, so it's 'like' a docked card, when you're using ac power it's on but on battery you got some low power one
[04:38] <Raikia> Gskellig: Now, does it should you a normal gnome desktop interface?  or just, like, a background picture?
[04:39] <john-doe> gartral: are you using the gnome classic desktop?
[04:39] <Gskellig> rinkukokiri, not really... on windows you can press a button and switch, its not automatic
[04:39] <gartral> John-doe: yes I am
[04:39] <Gskellig> Raikia, its normal gnome
[04:40] <john-doe> gartral: go to System -> Preferences -> Encryption and Keyrings
[04:40] <Raikia> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1637352
[04:40] <Raikia> Gskellig: It might be because it detects that your computer doesnt have the specifications required to run unity, so it goes to gnome
[04:41] <Gskellig> but it does.. unity ran fine on the livecd and the last time i installed unity...
[04:41] <Raikia> Gskellig: Because it does do that.
[04:41] <gartral> John-doe please stand by, gotta reboot
[04:41] <Gskellig> i installed ubuntu with wubi and it worked fine
[04:41] <john-doe> gartral: ok
[04:41] <Raikia> But was it using your other graphics card?
[04:41] <Gskellig> decided to go "real" ubuntu and now its broken
[04:41] <Gskellig> nope
[04:41] <Gskellig> i had the nvidia card completely disabled
[04:42] <kamran1> real ?
[04:42] <Raikia> Gskellig: Go to System -> Administration -> Additional Drivers.  Are any listed (that say "not used")
[04:42] <rinkukokiri> real = no unity?
[04:43] <rinkukokiri> cause if so, i agree.
[04:43] <Gskellig> nvidia accelerated graphics driver
[04:43] <Gskellig> but if i install that, it'll activite my nvidia card
[04:43] <Gskellig> which i dont want
[04:43] <Gskellig> i dont want to use my nvidia card
[04:43] <Gskellig> and i know unity will work without it
[04:43] <semitones> Hey everyone, I'm having trouble booting up my laptop. This is a video I took from my cell phone (opens in vlc) could anyone see if they recognize what's goingn on? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/384735/Boot.3g2
[04:44] <Raikia> Gskellig: If natty is booting into a full gnome environment, it definitely is detecting your hardware is incapable to run unity.  My only thought is that the LiveCD auto-activated your other graphics card, and wubi read your Windows configuration to get access to the graphics cards (so it was mis-interpreted)
[04:44] <gartral> John-doe I am missing encryption and keyrings alltogether
[04:44] <alokito> I can't play any movies with kaffeine in natty?
[04:44] <Raikia> Gskellig: I'm not a professional at this at all....I'm just trying to help :-/
[04:44] <alokito> whats the problem?
[04:44] <Gskellig> thanks =/
[04:45] <Gskellig> by default the nvidia card is disabled, but turned "on"
[04:45] <new2net> I had an error that said unity couldn't run with my hardware... I'm using unity right now
[04:45] <gnewb> Raikia: Good call, I agree with that one.
[04:45] <Raikia> Gskellig: My only suggestion is to install that nvidia driver, see if it works with it, and then uninstall it if it doesnt
[04:45] <Gskellig> so with the livecd it was using the intel card
[04:45] <Raikia> Gskellig: The LiveCD auto-activates drivers that your computer needs
[04:45] <Gskellig> installing that driver would open up a whole new world of problems for me =/
[04:45] <Raikia> So it might have read your graphics card, and activated it.
[04:45] <Raikia> Gskellig: why?
[04:46] <Gskellig> the nvidia card on my laptop cant be activated unless i force off the intel one in the bios
[04:46] <Gskellig> at least on linux
[04:46] <Gskellig> it can be "turned on" but not displayed
[04:46] <kamran1> when i install lubuntu i opted for L Display Manager. now i am required to key in password each time i log in. i want to save the password like GDM with automatic login. i prefer lubuntu. any bright ideas ?
[04:46] <Gskellig> just sits there eating power, idling
[04:46] <alokito> how do I get kaffeine to work? :(
[04:46] <gartral> John-doe found it under passwords and encryption keys
[04:46] <Raikia> :-/  Unfortunately, my suggestion is to try it...but its up to you.  I might be wrong....but unity should boot if your hardware supports it (which obviously the culprit is your graphics card)
[04:47] <Gskellig> it just sucks because i KNOW unity works with my intel card
[04:47] <Gskellig> i just need to trick it into working
[04:47] <Raikia> Check this out
[04:47] <Raikia> http://askubuntu.com/questions/34579/how-do-i-know-if-my-video-card-can-run-unity
[04:48] <john-doe> gartral: what do you see in that window?
[04:49] <gartral> John-doe only Passwords: login
[04:49] <john-doe> gartral: ok wait
[04:50] <kamran1> somebody read my Q ?
[04:50] <Gskellig> Raikia, "unable to create openGL context" and "Xlib: extension GLX missing on display ":0.0".
[04:50] <robin0800> Gskellig, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/bumbleebee-brings-nvidia-optimus-gpu-switching-to-linux-users/
[04:50] <Gskellig> yeah, nobody has gotten bumblebees stuff working on my laptop yet
[04:51] <Gskellig> you can read about it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1366605
[04:51] <Raikia> Lol, this laptop is a bitch...no offense :-P
[04:51] <Gskellig> lol
[04:51] <john-doe> gartral: ok what you have to do is delete that, and create a new one
[04:51] <Gskellig> maybe ill just go back to wubi... =\
[04:51] <Gskellig> brb
[04:52] <lastk> quit
[04:52] <Omega> kamran1: You want to use gdm?
[04:52] <Omega> kamran1: You might want to ask for #lubuntu for help
[04:53] <gartral> John-doe its taking a VERY long time too create the new one
[04:53] <Gskellig> back
[04:54] <Gskellig> argh
[04:54] <kamran1> Omega just want the computer to remember my password. can i switch to GDM now ?
[04:55] <john-doe> gartral: mmm...  wait some more?  when I did this it didn't take too long...
[04:55] <Gskellig> is there a command where i can get lots of info about my graphics card(s) ?
[04:55] <Gskellig> or do i need to google
[04:55] <Gskellig> lspci something?
[04:56] <Ricoshady> if a cron process runs a long time, so long it runs past the time it would normally run again, will cron start two instances? or wait for the other to finish?
[04:56] <Gskellig> lshw?
[04:56] <gartral> John-doe I have a perpetual password promt asking me too unlock the keyring
[04:56] <Raikia> Gskellig: lspci -v
[04:57] <Raikia> You might need to sudo that, if you aren't in root to get the full display
[04:57] <IdleOne> solid_liq: sorry about the accidental removal earlier :/
[04:57] <Gskellig> "mobile 4 series chipset"
[04:57] <solid_liq> IdleOne, no prob :)
[04:57] <Loshki> Gskellig: also maybe /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:57] <Gskellig> thanks Loshki
[04:58] <Gskellig> i915 kernel driver
[04:58] <Gskellig> maybe ill try a different driver
[04:58] <john-doe> gartral: just press cancel
[04:59] <Gskellig> arghhh
[04:59] <Raikia> " If you have an intel card, the minimum is the i945 and i965"
[04:59] <Gskellig> where do you see that Raikia ?
[05:00] <Raikia> Where I sent you earlier: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34579/how-do-i-know-if-my-video-card-can-run-unity
[05:00] <Raikia> I'm trying to find an official source...hold on
[05:00] <Gskellig> ah
[05:00] <Gskellig> found it
[05:00] <Gskellig> the intel card is a GMA X4500MHD
[05:01] <Raikia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/UnityHardwareRequirements
[05:01] <gartral> John-doe that did iit
[05:01] <Raikia> But the driver you are using is the i915?
[05:02] <john-doe> gartral: so its all good?
[05:02] <Gskellig> yeah?
[05:02] <Raikia> Gskellig ^
[05:02] <Gskellig> why is it i915?
[05:02] <Raikia> I don't know, but thats the problem
[05:02] <Gskellig> minimum is GMA X3100
[05:02] <Gskellig> GMA X4500MHD > X3100 lol
[05:03] <gartral> John-doe yes indeedy!
[05:03] <Raikia> But if its using the i915 driver, then it thinks it isn't good enough for unity
[05:03] <Gskellig> so i need to upgrade my driver somehow
[05:03] <Omega> kamran1: type this in the terminal and select gdm to switch: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[05:03] <Raikia> Gskellig: So you need to install/use a better driver
[05:03] <Raikia> yeah
[05:03] <Raikia> ...somehow....
[05:03] <Gskellig> im looking for the "proper" driver for GMA X4500MHD
[05:03] <john-doe> gartral: :D you had me worry for a second there.  Glad I could help :)
[05:04] <gartral> John-doe I owe you a beer!
[05:05] <Gskellig> bbl
[05:05] <john-doe> gartral: haha, maybe when I turn 21 you could invite me a glass of wine
[05:05] <Gskellig> thanks for your help Raikia
[05:05] <Raikia> Gskellig: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100610192135AADkaUX
[05:05] <Raikia> No problem, Gskellig.  I hope you get your problem fixed (and I hope I helped at all) :-/
[05:06] <goudkov> Hi guys, i'm trying to install 10.04 on a 8.04 host using kvm. I run "kvm -m 512  -cdrom /home/bcc/misc/temp/ubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-i386.iso -boot d -hda  lucid.qcow2" and the vm boots. I see the choice menu, install, run without installing, etc. when I pick either run or install, the screen flicks a bit and then goes blank with 100% cpu utilization. If this a know problem by any chance?
[05:06] <gartral> John-doe yea! Cabernet?
[05:07] <john-doe> gartral: ???  is that a brand?  not much of a drinker really...  have to log off this account, will log as lsv in a while
[05:08] <john-doe> bye people...
[05:08] <gartral> John, no its a style
[05:08] <sabiancrash_cgx> interesting, so grub .97 will not install on virtualbox 4+
[05:09] <bourne> hai
[05:09] <sabiancrash_cgx> well at least ubuntu 9.04 fails on grub installation on virtualbox 4+
[05:09] <bourne> hello
[05:09] <ssdfdsf> hello
[05:09] <ssdfdsf> hello all
[05:09] <sabiancrash_cgx> natty installed just fine using the same vhd and same host virtualbox config
[05:09] <ssdfdsf> hey signoff
[05:10] <sabiancrash_cgx> ssdfdsf, seriously
[05:10] <jary> how to set proxy in chroimum with openbox?
[05:10] <bourne> shit
[05:11] <rww> bourne: hello again
[05:11] <bourne> he
[05:12] <bourne> anybody knows which is the best desktop in linux
[05:12] <bourne> ?
[05:12] <kamran1> Omega thanks
[05:13] <bourne> signoff, which is the best desktop in ubuntu
[05:13] <bourne> ?
[05:13] <kbrown_> can someone help me please?
[05:13] <bourne> yes bkrown
[05:13] <kamran1> bourne it depends on ur taste ;)
[05:14] <bourne> kamran1, thats a good answer
[05:14] <bourne> but i asked your opinion
[05:14] <kbrown_> well, i'm running ubuntu 11.4 on my laptop, and i'm not able to use the sudo command anymore
[05:14] <Loshki> kbrown_: what happens when you run sudo ?
[05:14] <IdleOne> bourne: if you want opinions join #ubuntu-offtopic if you have a specific ubuntu support question please ask it in here.
[05:15] <ferna> lol
[05:15] <kbrown_> i get that the "/etc/sudoers" is at mode 0640 and suppose to be at 0440
[05:15] <kamran1> bourne i have tried unity, gnome, xfce and lxde. unity doest work on my system (old hardware). lubuntu gives good speed. xfce works fine and has enuff lustre. I have intel pentium four with 512 ram
[05:15] <ferna> aff
[05:16] <ferna> intel pentium four 512 ram , trash
[05:16] <Loshki> kbrown_: you're saying you accidentally changed the mode on /etc/sudoers?
[05:17] <kamran1> well thats the best i can afford now :)
[05:17] <kbrown_> i'm thinking so. it's no longer root, and i can't do anything about it now.
[05:17] <jary> Openbox ,love it
[05:17] <kbrown_> i don't know how i did it though. i'm confused about that part.
[05:18] <lsv> kbrown_: why don't you login in safe mode and change it?
[05:19] <dantheman73> good evening. Im a new user to Ubuntu and for the past several days Iv been trying to connect my ipod to my computer
[05:19] <dantheman73> nothing i do works
[05:19] <dantheman73> iv used every program imaginable
[05:19] <kbrown_> ok, how whould i log into safe mode.... i'm still fairly new to linux and i'm liking it so far but with not being use to it i'm making mistakes. LOL
[05:19] <dantheman73> gtk pod, rythym box, everything. it keeps saying the ipod wont mount when i plug it in and no program will connect to it. my ipod is literally my life can someone please help?
[05:20] <kamran1> dantheman73 is ur system able to access ur ipod. i mean using its as  usb mass storage device ?
[05:20] <dantheman73> its an ipod touch second generation
[05:20] <dantheman73> um idk
[05:20] <dantheman73> *i dont know;
[05:20] <lsv> kbrown_: when you start your computer, you get the grub menu?
[05:20] <dantheman73> where would I find that information?
[05:20] <dantheman73> grub menu?
[05:20] <dantheman73> im sorry sir but i dont think so
[05:20] <dantheman73> *sorry wrong person
[05:20] <kbrown_> grub menu?
[05:20] <Jordan_U> dantheman73: Is it "Mac" (hfsplus) or "Windows" (fat) formatted?
[05:20] <kamran1> dantheman73 do u get any message when u connect ur ipod ?
[05:20] <dantheman73> yea the msg i get is "unable to mount ipod"
[05:21] <dantheman73> and i used it on windows 7 before this so i guess its windows formatted?
[05:21] <iRabbit> kbrown_, select recovery mode when GRUB opens when you boot
[05:21] <lsv> kbrown_: some thing like this http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/image55.png
[05:22] <sabiancrash_cgx> dantheman73: what iPOD do you have
[05:22] <dantheman73> oh and everytime i try and download amarok (as well as most other applications...) i get an error msg that says something about dependency  issues
[05:22] <dantheman73> I have a 2nd generation ipod touch
[05:22] <iRabbit> kbrown_, "Ubuntu 2.6.38-8-generic recovery" <-- something to that effect
[05:22] <kbrown_> well, that screen is new to me... haven't seen it before. how would i get it to come up? something like F8?
[05:22] <lsv> kbrown_: like iRabbitsaid select recovery mode and login as root
[05:23] <lsv> kbrown_: do you dual boot?
[05:23] <iRabbit> kbrown_, hit the UP arrow continuously after the BIOS screen goes away
[05:23] <kbrown_> nope
[05:23] <sabiancrash_cgx> the touch doesn't support being mounted as a mass storage device
[05:23] <CFC> hello support
[05:23] <kbrown_> ok. and does root have a password?
[05:23] <celthunder> sabiancrash_cgx: sure it does..i believe if you use fusefs anyway
[05:23] <lsv> kbrown_: by default it wont have a password
[05:24] <rww> kbrown_: hold down the shift key at boot to pop up the GRUB menu.
[05:24] <celthunder> sabiancrash_cgx: regardless i've used mine as a normal usb drive before...
[05:24] <CFC> i have a problem with accesing with putty to my server what can this be? i have opend the port 22
[05:24] <kbrown_> ok. Thank you all for your help. i'll be back in a few if it didn't work. Thank you all again.
[05:24] <Jordan_U> dantheman73: "Second generation iPod" and "Second generation iPod touch" are two *very* different things :)
[05:24] <celthunder> CFC: hosts.allow ? is an sshd (usually openssh) running?
[05:25] <CFC> i just installed 11.04
[05:25] <sabiancrash_cgx> celthunder : iPod touch 2nd gen?
[05:25] <sabiancrash_cgx> The newer versions of libgpod might be able to mount it
[05:25] <CFC> and i didnt have this much problems with 10.10
[05:25] <celthunder> sabiancrash_cgx: third...but if i'm not mistaken they get more restricted not less with each version....
[05:25] <Jordan_U> dantheman73: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[05:25] <celthunder> CFC: ...how should i know? did you look? check netstat is anything listening on 22?
[05:25] <philipballew> need help with my speakers not always producing sound
[05:26] <CFC> how do i check?
[05:26] <analogue_> ping
[05:26] <celthunder> CFC: pgrep sshd  or /etc/init.d/ssh status or netstat -nL |grep ssh
[05:27] <celthunder> CFC: can you connect from the server to the server? is iptables running?
[05:27] <sabiancrash_cgx> celthunder: correct, libgpod should be able to mount it
[05:27] <sabiancrash_cgx> looks like there is a fusefs-pod as well
[05:27] <celthunder> CFC: sabiancrash_cgx should be able to use fuse....idk if libgpod uses that or not
[05:27] <celthunder> er sorry cfc didn't mean to tag you in that
[05:28] <analogue_> anyone got one of the new intel z68 motherboards? hows the linux support?
[05:28] <nick> how to install inventory editor on minecraft linux
[05:28] <Guest64472> how to install inventory editor on minecraft linux
[05:29] <sabiancrash_cgx> libgpod is the library for communicating to the ipod, fuse would just be a front end to libgpod that exposes the ipod as a block mountable device
[05:29] <celthunder> sabiancrash_cgx: i think fuse is it's own thing you can use it without libgpod...
[05:29] <sabiancrash_cgx> I can guarantee that any project that seeks to interface with an ipod will go through libgpod
[05:29] <sabiancrash_cgx> celthunder, doubtful
[05:29] <Guest64472> how to install inventory editor on minecraft linux
[05:29] <researcher123> how to install tar.bz2?
[05:29] <researcher123> Is it safe to install tar.bz2?
[05:29] <rjaguar3_> My compiz just crashed and I managed to get to tty, so does anyone have any directions on troubleshooting it?  (I have the dmesg file.)
[05:30] <Guest64472> how to install inventory editor on minecraft linux
[05:30] <celthunder> sabiancrash_cgx: sounds right though that it'd need to interface with something else for the ipod
[05:30] <fission6> how can i see whats running on port 5050
[05:30] <researcher123> does anyone know how to install tar.bz2?
[05:30] <braiam> how can I execute a flash binary?
[05:30] <celthunder> fission6: netstat?
[05:31] <lsv> tar xjf file.tar.bx2
[05:31] <celthunder> researcher123: extract it tar xjf <file> then cd to the new dir and read the readme/install file most likely ./configure make make install
[05:31] <researcher123> celthunder: ok.thanks
[05:31] <fission6> celthunder, doesn't really show anything intuitive
[05:31] <lsv> then cd to new directory... what celthunder said
[05:31] <boxbeatsy> hi, does anyone know how i can fix out of sync audio and video in an avi file?  i've tried vlc player's syncrhonization but it doesn't seem to be doing anything at al.
[05:31] <sabiancrash_cgx> I would be interested in the dmesg | tail -f when you plug in your ipod touch
[05:32] <arovij> Hi .. don't know if this is the right channel....... I want to detect fd leaks... I went to /proc/pid/fd/ ........ there a lot of empty files.. what does that mean?
[05:32] <celthunder> boxbeatsy: mplayer lets you as you play it set off timings for vidoe/audio until it sounds right...not sure if it'll let you change the file though...use a video editor ?
[05:32] <mesaber> I played with ubuntu's settings and I want to set it back, how do I?
[05:33] <celthunder> fission6: what options did you supply to it
[05:33] <sabiancrash_cgx> looks like a lot of good info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[05:33] <sabiancrash_cgx> unfortunately doesn't appear to be straight forward
[05:33] <fission6> none - i guess thats the question i should ask
[05:33] <sabiancrash_cgx> another good site: http://www.libimobiledevice.org/
[05:34] <celthunder> fission6: man netstat shows -c provides progam name -n numeric and -L is listen if i'm not mistaken (doing these off te top of my head ...those three with a simple grep shoykd orovide what you want
[05:34] <albino> need advice.  Trying to install 10.4.2 from a usb drive created with usb-creator-gtk.  I want to use the cli install, but when I type cli at the grub boot prompt I get 'Could not find kernel image: cli'
[05:34] <Omega> (I think we're currently using libimobildevice)
[05:34] <rhin0> viva ubuntu!!!
[05:34] <mesaber> how do I reset ubuntu,compiz settings?
[05:35] <celthunder> albino: pass 3 along after kernel in grub to get to cli
[05:35] <CFC> nothing of that helped me =/
[05:35] <pishguy> mesaber: you can remove .gconf in home directory
[05:35] <lsv> mesaber: System -> Preferences -> compiz ...
[05:35] <arovij> what do the empty files in /proc/pid/fd/ mean? thanks
[05:36] <sabiancrash_cgx> dantheman73: unfortunately, I am afraid the answer is not simple
[05:36] <albino> celthunder: so at the grub boot prompt: install 3    ?
[05:36] <lsv> mesaber: then on that windows click Preferences (by the lower right hand corner)
[05:36] <celthunder> CFC: ? so...an sshd is running...on port 22...and you have sshd: ALLOW in hosts.allow and iptables is not blocking it...is it in the same subnet as the client? (or are they networkedtogether at least)
[05:36] <CFC> Celthunder: can anything of this have to do with that i encrypted my folders?
[05:36] <lsv> mesaber: then Reset to defaults
[05:36] <celthunder> CFC: no
[05:37] <lsv> mesaber: I think that should work
[05:37] <sabiancrash_cgx> dantheman73: however, if you are initiated and desire to learn more of linux, look at the links I posted along with google.  My only 2nd gen ipod is currently disassembled for a jack replacement
[05:37] <celthunder> albino: no...enter a kernel and then add a 3 to it so kernel <kernel image> 3
[05:37] <fission6> well my apt-get install of rabbitmq is freezine, which means i have all these weird processes hanging - is there a clean way to kill this and all the subprocess generated?
[05:37] <dantheman73> Jordan_U: sorry for the delay. Im using Natty Narwal
[05:37] <CFC> when i try connect with putty it talls me conection refused
[05:37] <dantheman73> ...took me a litle while to find that out. my apologies for the delay.
[05:38] <dantheman73> by "not that simple" do you mean it wont work?
[05:38] <fission6> killall rabbitmq doesnt work
[05:38] <lsv> has anyone seen my tv remote?
[05:38] <lsv> oh wait wrong room...
[05:38] <CFC> its actully saying the same when i try connect to my FTP on it =/
[05:38] <celthunder> CFC that would be apparent..
[05:39] <CFC> oki
[05:39] <celthunder> CFC: are they on the ame network? able to contact each other (aka not natted seperately
[05:39] <CFC> the FTP and SSH is on same server
[05:39] <celthunder> lsv: yes ...i just sat on it damn bastard stop leaving it lying around
[05:39] <CFC> but i can not get ahold of any files or anything
[05:40] <pishguy> hi all whats my script problem : http://paste.debian.net/118636/
[05:40] <celthunder> CFC: ...can you not provide useless statements and answer the questions..before i commit suicide trying to help you
[05:40] <dantheman73> cellthunder: hahahahahaha
[05:40] <lsv> celthunder: sorry about that
[05:40] <sabiancrash_cgx> hot damn: http://virtualboxes.org/images/ubuntu/ <-- lets see if I can boot one of their 9.04 images
[05:40] <dantheman73> im sorry for that outburst....but that was kinda funny
[05:40] <CFC> ohh same network ye
[05:41] <fission6> ok one final time, if a package install freezes and i have all these hanging process how can i kill them
[05:41] <celthunder> fission6: killall
[05:41] <celthunder> fission6: or pgrep <program> and pass it along to kill -9
[05:41] <fission6> doesn't work, well maybe i am doing the wrong killall
[05:42] <celthunder> kill -9 then...idk what killall sends by default as i generally try not to use it... kill -9 pretty much forces it to die...
[05:42] <celthunder> lsv: lol i was jokin with ya...
[05:42] <sabiancrash_cgx> dantheman73: no, quite contrary, I think you can get it to work but explaining each step to you over irc for a process I have not performed before on a machine that could be in an unknown configuration, well, thats what I mean by not simple
[05:42] <CFC> hmm they are on same network but i dont know if they connect with each other
[05:43] <celthunder> CFC: do you have icmp disabled/blocked on either one via firewall? if not try ping / traceroute...
[05:43] <sabiancrash_cgx> dantheman73: unfornately "how do I get my ipod to work" I am afraid is not going to be a simple matter of just run these couple of commands and it should just work
[05:43] <fission6> oh i see rabbitmq has a bunch of processesing running as the user rabbitmq, how can i kill all those?
[05:43] <IcemanV9> CFC: is the firewall open for ssh (22)? to find out by typing    sudo ufw status
[05:43] <lsv> celthunder: i knew that.. thanks for finding it :D
[05:44] <celthunder> IcemanV9: he said it was earlier i asked him
[05:44] <fission6> there has to been a more sane approach then ps -ef | grep rabbitmq and killing them one by one
[05:44] <CFC> status inactiv
[05:44] <celthunder> fission6: uhm one sec
[05:44] <fission6> ok
[05:44] <sabiancrash_cgx> plus I am going into hour 5 of working on restoring this server so I don't have more than cursory attention available
[05:44] <fission6> i am using htop, i thought killing the parent based on the tree view would work but it didnt
[05:44] <IcemanV9> ok celthunder
[05:45] <dantheman73> sabiancrash: oh ok thanks, my bad if i was expecting too much.
[05:45] <dantheman73> honestly i think im gonna go back to windows
[05:45] <wxl> how can one make a fat16 partition?
[05:45] <IcemanV9> CFC: ping the server like celthunder said earlier
[05:45] <dantheman73> linux is a bit faster but its really quite worthless since its not compatible with anything
[05:45] <celthunder> fission6: pkill -u <uid>
[05:45] <fission6> how do i know which uid to use?
[05:45] <fission6> sorry
[05:46] <celthunder> dantheman73: you're not compatible with anything...ipods are the least compatible with anything...and both are quite a bit worth less than linux
[05:46] <celthunder> fission6: the one of the user with all the processes
[05:46] <CFC> what was the command for that now
[05:46] <celthunder> CFC: ping <ip>
[05:46] <dantheman73> cell thunder: haha dont be rude man. Look you gotta see this from my perspective;
[05:46] <sabiancrash_cgx> dantheman73: Let me just say this.  Its apple's business strategy to support only a closed garden of environments.  Breaking out of that garden is fun for the initiated but daunting to the unexperienced....BY DESIGN.  If you really want linux compatibility, I would get an device that will natively support being placed into mass storage mode
[05:47] <celthunder> fission6: echo $UID shows the current users uid...also should be listed in /etc/passwd... i'm sure theres other ways
[05:47] <CFC> is any ip good?
[05:47] <dantheman73> everytime i try and download an app from ubuntu i get that "dependency" issue and it wont work, and the one thing that i actually use my computer for (ipod) wont work. I guess linux is cool if your into programing and coding and stuff, but im not a computer-savy person.
[05:47] <celthunder> CFC:....are you deliberately trying to kill us...use the one of your server
[05:48] <IcemanV9> CFC: no. the ip address of the server that you tried to ssh/ftp
[05:48] <tensorpudding> dantheman73: dependency issue?
[05:48] <fission6> ok let me try thanks
[05:48] <wxl> package management <> dependency issue .. hmmm ..
[05:48] <sabiancrash_cgx> dantheman73: my girlfriend has no idea about computers and uses ubuntu as her main OS, she has no idea that its a leet hacker thing
[05:48] <dantheman73> i wasnt trying to insult anyone, im just saying that ubuntu seems a bit impractical...it seems much harder to use for me thats all. Im sorry if i offended.
[05:49] <wxl> there's things os x doesn't play with well
[05:49] <wxl> and there's things windows doesn't play with well
[05:49] <tensorpudding> dantheman73: could you say a little more about what this dependency issue you have is
[05:49] <dantheman73> sabian: yes im aware apple is infamous for locking their devices. its unfortunate and quite irratating. but i cant go out and buy a new device thats compatible with linux....i dont have that kind of $
[05:49] <sabiancrash_cgx> dantheman73: its not a problem.  it just doesn't have enough of a userbase for all commercial companies especially those with their own OS they are trying to push, to support
[05:49] <fission6> that seemed to work thanks celthunder - i really need to learn process management it just never makes sense to me in linux
[05:49] <CFC> says 64 byte
[05:49] <fission6> how to close out all processes or find whats running
[05:49] <dantheman73> sabian: thanks and yes i agree.
[05:50] <celthunder> CFC: packet loss? or did they get responses
[05:50] <celthunder> fission6: ps auxf
[05:50] <tensorpudding> dantheman73: also i'm pretty sure the ipod is supported
[05:50] <fission6> yea i know but that takes some digging through too and then to kill things - i dont know just is a hairy operation
[05:50] <sabiancrash_cgx> dantheman73: I suggest running sudo apt-get -f install
[05:50] <celthunder> fission6: man ps man pgrep and man kill and following the recommended ones at the bottom are a good place to start for process management also useful is nice and renice
[05:50] <dantheman73> tensor pudding: whenever i try and download anything (amarok for example) i get an error msg that says "package dependencies cannot be resolved"
[05:50] <w30> Linux sets you free; Free to shoot yourself and your operating system!!
[05:51] <fission6> thanks
[05:51] <tensorpudding> dantheman73: can you be more specific about what happened? screenshot?
[05:51] <fission6> how do i show ps auxf and page through it, the results are to be and get cut off
[05:51] <w30> I just shot mine; I killed Unity
[05:51] <dantheman73> sure. how do i put a screenshot into this chat box thought?
[05:51] <CFC> seems like they get responce
[05:51] <celthunder> w30: rm -rf / is always fun :) (provided /home isn't mounted)
[05:51] <sabiancrash_cgx> all software has issues, the lines at the genius bar and geeksquad are perfect examples
[05:51] <dantheman73> and sabian thanks for your help and commentary. il try that command now.
[05:51] <IsmAvatar> Trying to live boot ubuntu, but it never gets past the Ubuntu .... loading screen. When I press Delete, it says "Unable to open '/dev/sda'". Why would it want to open my hard drive for a live boot?
[05:51] <CFC> it hyst continues pinging
[05:51] <celthunder> CFC: ok that's good...
[05:52] <CFC> just*
[05:52] <tensorpudding> dantheman73: you can put it on imagebin.org
[05:52] <sabiancrash_cgx> like any technology.....look at the number of people outside the oilchange place, changing your own oil is not hard but most people don't have a clue
[05:52] <fission6> is it okay to have more than 1 hostname entry in /etc/hostname? how does that work? such as www.sometie.com and <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:52] <celthunder> sabiancrash_cgx: lol i suck at cars and even i can do it...
[05:52] <tensorpudding> um, don't put <IP_ADDRESS> in your /etc/hostname
[05:52] <dantheman73> tensorpudding: okay just give me one second
[05:53] <celthunder> fission6: you mean /etc/hosts right...
[05:53] <fission6> right
[05:53] <robinsch> i want to remove 2 directories and I user: rm -rf {temp, personal}
[05:53] <sabiancrash_cgx> which is fine but when you need to get service or knowledge you don't have, it generally costs money
[05:53] <robinsch> it doesn't work
[05:53]  * sabiancrash_cgx goes back to grub hell
[05:53] <celthunder> fission6: then yes...put as many as you want it's for your use
[05:53] <CFC> how do i stop the pinging x.x
[05:53] <IcemanV9> CFC: ctrl+c to stop ping if you haven't done already
[05:53] <celthunder> robinsch: do you have permissions
[05:53] <robinsch> yes
[05:53] <CFC> ahh ^^
[05:54] <fission6> how does it work though, i dont understand, like i think rabbitmq isn't working because of this issue, http://www.rabbitmq.com/ec2.html host name section
[05:54] <robinsch> can i use that syntax?
[05:54] <w30> celthunder, seardh for rm -rf / on youtube for fun videos
[05:54] <robinsch> i get no error etc
[05:54] <IcemanV9> CFC: did you get "0% packet loss" ?
[05:54] <fission6> oh i see there is host and hostname? celthunder
[05:54] <lsv> robinsch: why don't you just delete one at a time?
[05:55] <CFC> yes
[05:55] <celthunder> w30: lol yeah i do it all the time when i'm bored and don't mind rebuilding...unmount /home and ...go nuts...also fun is writing stuff to the framebuffer
[05:55] <celthunder> fission6: yes /etc/hosts is what you want
[05:55] <fission6> ok
[05:55] <robinsch> lsv it is a question in my unix textbook
[05:55] <dantheman73> tensorpudding: ok its uploaded to imagebin
[05:55] <dantheman73> just look at the most recent, you'll recognize it
[05:55] <lsv> robinsch: aaaa...
[05:55] <CFC> is that good or bad =/ ?
[05:55] <celthunder> CFC: ok good now use openssl to connect or ssh -vvvv does it show any more details
[05:55] <robinsch> i don't know when i will ever need this
[05:55] <celthunder> CFC: good
[05:55] <fission6> how does an app like rabbitmq pick up on the proper hosts if there are many entries, maybe thats my question
[05:56] <celthunder> robinsch: we don't answer your homework...
[05:56] <tensorpudding> dantheman73: odd
[05:56] <lsv> robinsch: try man bash for info
[05:56] <robinsch> :/
[05:56] <IcemanV9> CFC: it's good. is the ssh daemon running on the server?
[05:56] <celthunder> fission6: what's rabbit mq
[05:56] <CFC> im useing windows on  my main computer
[05:56] <tensorpudding> dantheman73: do you have any odd PPA's set
[05:56] <fission6> its a ququing system
[05:56] <lsv> robinsch: skim through it, don't read the whole thing
[05:56] <celthunder> CFC: then use telnet
[05:56] <robinsch> ok
[05:57] <CFC> but how do i get known ice?
[05:57] <fission6> but its having trouble resolving the host? http://www.rabbitmq.com/ec2.html my issue is "Issues with hostname" in this section
[05:57] <sabiancrash_cgx> dantheman73: I suggest running sudo apt-get -f install
[05:57] <robinsch> lsv it is kind of big
[05:57] <celthunder> fission6: ok one moment
[05:57] <Wyvern666> hey, i fucked up something in mi ubuntu, i get "... is not in the sudoers list..."
[05:57] <fission6> it wants me to echo "<IP_ADDRESS> rabbit" >> /etc/hosts celthunder but i dont see how rabbitmq knows to pick up on it
[05:57] <IcemanV9> CFC: type: ls /var/run/ssh*
[05:57] <tensorpudding> dantheman73: that version of amarok isn't the one in the standard repos, i don't think
[05:57] <celthunder> fission6: lol it's system wide ...
[05:58] <IcemanV9> CFC: if it's there, then you should be able to ssh via putty
[05:58] <fission6> i am confused though how rabbitmq parses this file and uses it
[05:58] <celthunder> fission6: ok open up that file /etc/hosts... the first line should be <IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost
[05:58] <celthunder> fission6: if it's NOT change it to that and then add rabbit to it
[05:58] <fission6> it is
[05:58] <dantheman73> tensor: haha yea it happens with legit almost every app i try and get. and Im not sure what you mean by "odd PPAs", sorry. and i just ran that sudo apt-get -f install thing....now what?
[05:58] <lsv> robinsch: I'll read and see if I find anything
[05:58] <celthunder> fission6: no...it's what the network uses...if you ping rabbit it hsould return <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:58] <robinsch> lsv, i didn't see much
[05:58] <dantheman73> and if thats not the regular amarok where can i get it? iv tried everywhere, including a google search
[05:58] <sabiancrash_cgx> dantheman73: what was the output when you ran that on the terminal
[05:58] <fission6> oh ok well this is the first line "<IP_ADDRESS> localhost"
[05:58] <celthunder> fission6: if you added google.com to the list with an ip you could direct all traffic to a different ip that's mean for google.com
[05:59] <moosoft> hello all.  Just started to migrate from Windows7 to Ubuntu 11.04 and I'm running into problems copying files off the old ntfs partitions.  I get "Error splicing file: Input/output error"
[05:59] <celthunder> fission6: change it to localhost.localdomain localhost rabbit
[05:59] <tensorpudding> dantheman73: can you open your /etc/apt/sources.list file and put it on a pastebin?
[05:59] <celthunder> fission6: leave the <IP_ADDRESS> alone though
[05:59] <tensorpudding> !pastebin
[05:59] <uragan> hi
[05:59] <uragan>  airmon-ng start wlan0
[05:59] <uragan> Found 2 processes that could cause trouble.
[05:59] <uragan> If airodump-ng, aireplay-ng or airtun-ng stops working after
[05:59] <uragan> a short period of time, you may want to kill (some of) them!
[05:59] <uragan> PID     Name
[05:59] <uragan> 5888    dhclient3
[05:59] <FloodBot1> uragan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:59] <uragan> 6121    dhclient3
[05:59] <fission6> is this the equivlent to what the docs are describing celthunder
[05:59] <dantheman73> sabiancrash: would you like me to copy and paste the output? id feel bad doing so cause i dont wanna polute the chat box or anything. \
[05:59] <lsv> robinsch: reading man bash
[05:59] <CFC> can not access /var/run/ssh* no such file or directory
[05:59] <robinsch> i got all the questions this one seems every easy, but now I am stuck
[06:00] <celthunder> fission6: from what you've said that's what you need to do i'll open the docs if it doesn't work after you do that
[06:00] <sabiancrash_cgx> dantheman73: no use the pastebin.  Type !pastebin for instructions
[06:00] <dantheman73> tensorpudding: Im sorry sir but I dont know what any of that means, and i dont know how to open any of those or where to find them
[06:00] <Wyvern666> can someone help me to own mi system again?, i cant root anymore
[06:00] <uragan> what process need to kill?
[06:00] <dantheman73> ok il type that pastebin thing in the terminal
[06:00] <celthunder> Wyvern666: do you have physical access?
[06:00] <tensorpudding> dantheman73: it's a text file
[06:00] <Wyvern666> [celthunder] yes
[06:00] <fission6> celthunder, docs simply say echo "rabbit" > /etc/hostname, echo "<IP_ADDRESS> rabbit" >> /etc/hosts, hostname -F /etc/hostname
[06:00] <celthunder> uragan: pgrep air*
[06:00] <robinsch> i will give propper attributions to anyone who helps me
[06:00] <tensorpudding> dantheman73: pastebin is like imagebin for text
[06:01] <robinsch> on my assignment
[06:01] <celthunder> fission6: do what i said and then hostname rabbit
[06:01] <pishguy> after installing SAINO MOBILE DIGITAL MDTV RECIVER in ubuntu with kaffeine i dont have any audio. why?
[06:01] <fission6> add rabbit to hostname?
[06:01] <celthunder> Wyvern666: at grub add a 1 to the end of the kernel line...it'll log you in as root
[06:01] <sabiancrash_cgx> dantheman73: no you type it here
[06:01] <sabiancrash_cgx> !pastebin
[06:01] <celthunder> Wyvern666: from there you can use passwd to set a new pw
[06:01] <IcemanV9> CFC: ssh daemon is not running, then
[06:01] <sabiancrash_cgx> irc 101
[06:01] <dantheman73> ooo imagebin for text ok gotcha. im assuming its online? il google it real quick hold on. and thanks so much for your patience. you guys are what make linux stand out; microsoft or apple could never come close to matching you in terms of customer support.
[06:01] <Wyvern666> [celthunder] ok i will try
[06:02] <tensorpudding> dantheman73: paste.ubuntu.com
[06:02] <fission6> celthunder, there is already a domain name in the hostname is that okay to put rabbit on a new line under it?
[06:02] <CFC> =/
[06:02] <IsmAvatar> Trying to live boot ubuntu, but it never gets past the Ubuntu .... loading screen. When I press Delete, it says "Unable to open '/dev/sda'". Why would it want to open my hard drive for a live boot?
[06:02] <IcemanV9> CFC: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[06:02] <CFC> how domi get it to run?
[06:02] <CFC> oki
[06:03] <tensorpudding> dantheman73: you copy the link it gives you and paste it here so we know where it is
[06:03] <celthunder> fission6: shouldn't matter...and no you get only 1 hostname...not a very good program if it forces yo uto use there hostname
[06:03] <CFC> command not found
[06:03] <celthunder> fission6: but alas make it rabbit and that's it for the file if you must
[06:03] <celthunder> CFC: do you have openssh installed even?
[06:03] <fission6> hmmmm ok
[06:03] <fission6> thanks for your help
[06:03] <celthunder> CFC: apt-get install openssh-server openssh-client
[06:03] <robinsch> lsv, did u see anything
[06:04] <sabiancrash_cgx> dantheman73: type !pastebin in the chat for instructions, no need to google tho I do appreciate the enthusiasm
[06:04] <CFC> i tho it was when installed ubuntu it was when i installed it last time
[06:04] <lsv> robinsch: I think I did
[06:04] <lsv> robinsch: again do a man bash then search for 'Brace Expansion'
[06:04] <IcemanV9> CFC: it's very quick install; less than a minute
[06:04] <celthunder> lsv: shouldn't need to ...rm accepts spaces
[06:04] <robinsch> thanks lsv  i will try that
[06:04] <celthunder> lsv: .... lol
[06:05] <Ghost_Who_Walks> guys i cant install ubuntu on my dell laptop i select erase and use disk and just says the installer crashed during the format/install, I get to the point where it askes for my location, and then it dies. I can access hte desk top via the cdrom... I checked the HD with the built in program, seems to be ok
[06:05] <Ghost_Who_Walks> what should i do?
[06:05] <lsv> celthunder: ???
[06:05] <Jordan_U> Ghost_Who_Walks: How much RAM do you have? Did you run the CD integrity check?
[06:05] <CFC> i am installing it now
[06:05] <bewilled> how do I reinstall software-center? it is not launching from vnc server
[06:05] <CFC> done
[06:06] <celthunder> lsv: wasn't robinsch trying to just delete multiple files/directories with rm -rf ? rm -rf <file> <file1> etc should work fine
[06:06] <dantheman73> sabiancrash_cgx: ok i pasted it into pastebin
[06:06] <IcemanV9> CFC: ls /var/run/ssh* (to be sure it's up and running)
[06:06] <robinsch> omg celthunder THANK YOU, i feel stupid now
[06:06] <lsv> celthunder: he needed to use rm -rf {folder, folder} format for some school work
[06:06] <dantheman73> tensorpudding: ok i pasted it into paste bin (sorry for being repetitive...im kinda talking to both of you so i dont wanna be rude and ignore one of you or anything)
[06:07] <tensorpudding> dantheman73: do you have the link?
[06:07] <celthunder> lsv: lol can't think of any reason to use braces for rm...
[06:07] <sabiancrash_cgx> dantheman73: it should have given you a url to paste back here so I can find it
[06:07] <lsv> mmmm...
[06:08] <CFC> it says now /var/run/ssh.pid
[06:08] <IcemanV9> CFC: now, try to ssh via putty again
[06:08] <celthunder> robinsch: be happy he was linking you to the wrong place or i wouldn't have answered....seriously though do your own work
[06:08] <lsv> celthunder: but you can right?
[06:08] <robinsch> ok
[06:08] <celthunder> lsv: probably...i've never had the need to because there isn't any use for it...i use the format in shell scripts though
[06:09] <CFC> thank you =3
[06:09] <CFC> now one thing works
[06:09] <CFC> now lets see if my FTP works
[06:09] <celthunder> CFC: do you have an ftpd installed? vsftpd is pretty good if not
[06:09] <CFC> yay
[06:09] <CFC> ye
[06:09] <sabiancrash_cgx> wow, 9.04 boots fine from the image I downloaded, crazy sauce, I wonder if I can just rsync the data from the borked vhd to the working vdi
[06:10] <CFC> thats the first thing after i updated
[06:10] <lsv> celthunder: i see...
[06:10] <IsmAvatar> Trying to live boot ubuntu, but it never gets past the Ubuntu .... loading screen. When I press Delete, it says "Unable to open '/dev/sda'". Why would it want to open my hard drive for a live boot?
[06:10] <CFC> now i can access the server like i need too
[06:10] <CFC> thank you guys so much
[06:10] <celthunder> lsv: i'm now curious..what would be a good reason to use braces with rm?
[06:10] <IcemanV9> CFC: enjoy your ubuntu server! :-)
[06:11] <lsv> celthunder: to look cool?
[06:11] <CFC> now i only need the command to install java
[06:11] <celthunder> lsv: lol
[06:11] <Jordan_U> celthunder: rm some_numbered_file_prefix{1,2,3,6,9,}
[06:11] <IsmAvatar> sudo apt-get install java
[06:11] <CFC> i know its apt-get install
[06:11] <CFC> but i need sun java
[06:12] <IsmAvatar> why sun?
[06:12] <CFC> im going to run a Minecraft server
[06:12] <Jordan_U> !java | CFC
[06:12] <ridnlowmac> apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[06:12] <CFC> and i choose Unubtu for it
[06:12] <IsmAvatar> would be curious to know if minecraft servers run on openjdk
[06:13] <lsv> Jordan_U: so for similar looking files?
[06:13] <celthunder> IsmAvatar: hmm it shouldn't matter if your hard drive is working in a live boot
[06:13] <IsmAvatar> celthunder: that's what I thought too. So why it it getting stuck after reporting that it can't open /dev/sda?
[06:13] <Jordan_U> lsv: Yes.
[06:14] <CFC> Package sun-java6-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:14] <CFC> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:14] <CFC> is only available from another source
[06:14] <CFC> E: Package 'sun-java6-jre' has no installation candidate
[06:14] <Gskellig> Raikia still here?
[06:14] <faryshta> Hello. How can I install flash on firefox?
[06:14] <Gskellig> faryshta, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:7
[06:15] <gueriLLaPunK> how do i install a taz.fz? dpkg?
[06:15] <gueriLLaPunK> tar.gz*
[06:15] <celthunder>  faryshta 32 bit or 64 bit?
[06:15] <kbrosnan> faryshta: no, install it through apt
[06:15] <kbrosnan> ubottu: !flash
[06:15] <EastDallas> is there an official support channel for Libreoffice?
[06:15] <wols_> gueriLLaPunK: you usually unpack it with tar zxvf <file>  and then compile it.don't do it if you don't know what you are doing
[06:15] <wols_> EastDallas: /msg alis list *libreoffice*
[06:15] <gueriLLaPunK> oh
[06:15] <celthunder> gueriLLaPunK: tar xzf <file> cd <new dir> read the readme/install files but likely ./configure <options> make make install
[06:15] <gueriLLaPunK> yea, i dont know what im doing, lol
[06:15] <Jordan_U> gueriLLaPunK: What are you actually trying to install?
[06:16] <gueriLLaPunK> im trying to install tor-browser-gnu-linux-x86_64-1.1.9-dev-en-US.tar.gz
[06:16] <faryshta> kbrosnan, how do I install it with apt? Already have installed flash-nonfree installed but doesn't load flash.
[06:16] <Gskellig> can anybody help me with getting unity to work
[06:16] <gueriLLaPunK> Jordan_U^^
[06:16] <celthunder> faryshta: if 32 bit system just install flashplugin...if 64 either chroot or install the 32 bit libraries that flash requires
[06:16] <faryshta> celthunder, 64bits
[06:16] <Gskellig> and/or help with installing specific linux drivers
[06:16] <EastDallas>  /msg alis list *libreoffice*
[06:16] <wols_> Gskellig: what drivers?
[06:16] <brown_fern> IsmAvatar: It is just a guess, but is the live disk searching for a swap partition on /dev/sda?
[06:16] <Jordan_U> !tor | gueriLLaPunK
[06:17] <wols_> EastDallas: first char on the line must be the /, no spaces
[06:17] <EastDallas>  /msg alias list *office*
[06:17] <Gskellig> wols_, I think my problem with unity is that my graphics card is using the wrong driver
[06:17] <MinusSeven> Hi, I installed the nvidia driver, Unity works fine, but after I reboot, nvidia isn't installed properly.
[06:17] <celthunder> faryshta: so chroot if you want a pure 64 bit system with 32 shit seperate or like i said install 32 bit libraries
[06:17] <wols_> MinusSeven: what error? and how did you install the driver?
[06:17] <faryshta> celthunder, which are those libraries you mention?  I rebooted firefox and now I have flash.
[06:18] <MinusSeven> I installed using the Additional drivers, when I try to run nvidia config, it says xconf.org or whatever it is needs a device line
[06:18] <wols_> Gskellig: that one should work fine out of the blox. glxinfo |grep render
[06:18] <celthunder> faryshta: lol
[06:18] <Gskellig> i915
[06:18] <lsv> problem with the /etc/sudoer file *
[06:18] <wols_> MinusSeven: why do you want to run the config?
[06:18] <gueriLLaPunK> holy moly, that looks complicated :(
[06:18] <MinusSeven> to see what is wrong
[06:18] <celthunder> Gskellig: i915 is probablty the right driver for most intel cards
[06:18] <wols_> Gskellig: what weird driver?
[06:18] <CFC> =/ i dont get why its saying this now
[06:19] <faryshta> celthunder, I hate flash with my entire sould. But I need to browse a page for a project.
[06:19] <gueriLLaPunK> but thanks for the link, Jordan_U
[06:19] <wols_> !errors | MinusSeven
[06:19] <Gskellig> well unity says the GMA x4500 is supported
[06:19] <Gskellig> but i915 isn't
[06:19] <Gskellig> so... ?
[06:19] <wols_> Gskellig: i915 is the proper and only driver for your vga chip
[06:19] <MinusSeven> ok, brb
[06:20] <Gskellig> well unity won't work now, but it used to under a different ubuntu install
[06:20] <dantheman73> sabiancrash_cgx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/616395/
[06:20] <Gskellig> both 11.04 64bit
[06:20] <wols_> Gskellig: so what is the error?
[06:20] <Gskellig> it wont start
[06:20] <dantheman73> tensorpudding: http://paste.ubuntu.com/616395/
[06:20] <wols_> Gskellig: check your xorg0.log then
[06:20] <Gskellig> I can't manually start it either
[06:20] <Gskellig> where is it?
[06:20] <wols_> in /var/log
[06:21] <wols_> and ~/.xsession-errors
[06:21] <Gskellig> its empty
[06:21] <wols_> what is empty?
[06:21] <Gskellig> the log
[06:21] <wols_> the Xorg log is never empty.
[06:22] <Gskellig> capital X
[06:22] <Gskellig> ah
[06:23] <Gskellig> how do i interpret this information?
[06:23] <IcemanV9> CFC: For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.
[06:23] <kaushal> Hi
[06:23] <kaushal> is there a way to know which /dev/ttyUSB* is mapped to lsusb devices ?
[06:24] <wols_> Gskellig: I asked you to run a glxinfo command before
[06:24] <uranellus> kaushal: check dmesg output
[06:25] <CFC> x.x
[06:25] <CFC> i so can never learn a new OS XD
[06:26] <CFC> thats text based =3
[06:26] <pishguy> after installing SAINO MOBILE DIGITAL MDTV RECIVER in ubuntu with kaffeine i dont have any audio. why?
[06:26] <sabiancrash_cgx> dantheman73: Did you ever post your sources.list
[06:26] <celthunder> CFC: you need X for video..that's about it....everything else can be done in text...
[06:27] <sabiancrash_cgx> If apt-get -f install did not fix it, then I wonder if you have mismatched repos
[06:27] <kbrown_> it looks like i have to reinstall ubuntu or another linux OS on my machine. does anyone have any suggestions on which ones i should try?
[06:27] <wols_> celthunder: ever tried to edit an image in text mode? editing hex values and visualizing them is _hard_ man
[06:27] <celthunder> kbrown_: you should almost never have to reinstall with that said...i'm using arch...
[06:27] <wols_> kbrown_: please check carefully what channel you are in...
[06:28] <celthunder> wols_: i said you can...not that you should :) admittedly i'm in X soley for pics/browsing sites with images and video...
[06:28] <CFC> iceman i have no idea how to do what you just said X3
[06:28] <Gskellig> sorry
[06:28] <kbrown_> Sorry about that, i'm just trying to find the best that i can.
[06:28] <Gskellig> extension GLX missing on display
[06:29] <gotsanity__> Anyone know why my system would take a really long time to move a 1gig file onto a memory stick? it started out fast and now its sitting at 0 seconds left and has been like that for the last 15 mins
[06:29] <nit-wit> kbrosnan, fedora 15 with gnome 3 isnot bad.
[06:29] <celthunder> kbrown_: what're you using the systme for whats your requiremetns what do yo uexpect from the community? what do you plan to contribute? what are you willing ot put into it? etc are the questions to ask
[06:29] <wols_> Gskellig: install the mesa-glx libraries
[06:29] <wols_> gotsanity__: caches
[06:29] <lsv> good night people
[06:30] <IcemanV9> CFC: take a look at ubuntu forum about java -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1647538
[06:30] <kbrown_> i'm using a Dell latitude E5400
[06:30] <celthunder> kbrown_: what you have doesn't matter much...
[06:30] <celthunder> kbrown_: it's not like your hardware will only work in dstro xyz
[06:30] <wols_> kbrown_: general linux questions like what distro to use is better asked in #linux, this channel is for ubuntu specific questions
[06:31] <CFC> thanks but that is if you use Graphical ubuntu
[06:31] <kbrown_> how would i go about setting up an email server with ubuntu?
[06:31] <Gskellig> libgl1-mesa-glx already newest version
[06:31] <EastDallas>  /msg alis list *openoffice*
[06:31] <Gskellig> and mesa-utils
[06:31] <wols_> Gskellig: like in any other distro. very very carefully. mailservers are too diverse and complicated to give a general answer
[06:31] <celthunder> kbrown_: ? again...databases? text files? which backends do you want? (postfix/sedmail/qmail?) devecot/courier?
[06:31] <j0el0g> hey everyone how's it going
[06:32] <Gskellig> O_o
[06:32] <wols_> EastDallas: NO leading space!
[06:32] <Gskellig> you mean kbrown?
[06:32] <wols_> sorry, yes I did
[06:32] <Gskellig> thought so =P
[06:32] <celthunder> wols_: lol stop reading my mind and answering before i do.. lol
[06:32] <EastDallas> I was wondering what went wrong...just typed it again and it worked.
[06:32] <a7i3n> join #linux
[06:32] <Gskellig> I think mesa-glx libraries are installed already
[06:32] <CFC> that one didnt help me at all
[06:32] <kbrown_> well i do have postfix.
[06:33] <kbrown_> and dovecot
[06:33] <IcemanV9> CFC: no ... you can run java program via CLI ... were you looking for a way to develop java (text) program, right?
[06:33] <a7i3n> eek
[06:34] <CFC> no
[06:34] <a7i3n> can't type to save life...
[06:34] <CFC> i am gonna use the java
[06:34] <celthunder> kbrown_: also to consider do you want a gui with it (aka postfixadmin etc) fi you're lazy as can be you an use zimbra but i've only seen it used once and if i remember right it was a huge waste of resources how it was setup by default
[06:34] <CFC> to run my minecraft server
[06:34] <Gskellig> mesa-glx stuff is instaled, but still getting that error
[06:34] <kbrown_> i just set up a web server and all that fun stuff, and now i'm wanting an email server for the domain as well.
[06:34] <wols_> Gskellig: what error?
[06:34] <uranellus> kbrown_: might want to look at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
[06:34] <Gskellig> extension GLX missing on display
[06:34] <j0el0g> hey guys i was wondering where the heck my id_joe file
[06:34] <celthunder> kbrown_: use google....
[06:34] <Gskellig> ":0.0".
[06:34] <j0el0g> sudo mv id_joe /.ssh
[06:34] <wols_> Gskellig: there is more than that on that line
[06:35] <IcemanV9> CFC: well. that's it. the instruction from ubuntuforums.org will do the trick.
[06:35] <j0el0g> i was logged into my home directory and wanted to move it to this .ssh
[06:35] <j0el0g> but it's gone !?
[06:35] <Gskellig> that line, like 20 times
[06:35] <Gskellig> Oh and in the middle
[06:35] <kbrown_> google has failed me. too many different answers and don't know which ones are the right ones
[06:35] <Gskellig> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[06:35] <wols_> j0el0g: ls -l /.ssh    /.ssh is in your root-directory, not home directory
[06:36] <wols_> kbrown_: all of them are right. there are gazillions of ways to set up a mailserver
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> kbrown_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
[06:36] <CFC> i use the server version
[06:36] <CFC> non the normal
[06:36] <wols_> CFC: do you have an actual, specific problem? if so state it
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> !Google | celthunder
[06:36] <celthunder>  kbrown_ probably because you don't know what to ask or how you want your mail server setup.... linode.com/community has a few decent ones....theres also some good ones if you search for vitrualp2.html that's actually form debian like 4.0 but the main setup still owrks and is good with a few tweaks
[06:36] <CFC> im trying to get sun-java
[06:37] <wols_> CFC: and the problem you have getting it is what exactly?
[06:37] <CFC> but when trying installing it
[06:37] <CFC> Package sun-java6-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:37] <CFC> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:37] <CFC> is only available from another source
[06:37] <CFC> E: Package 'sun-java6-jre' has no installation candidate
[06:37] <FloodBot1> CFC: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:37] <celthunder> ActionParsnip: every question he's asked is generic enough a google search will return 8000 ways to do it...and all of them right in a certain circumstance...
[06:37] <kbrown_> ok, thanks all.
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> j0el0g: /.ssh != ~/.ssh
[06:38] <IcemanV9> CFC: use pastebin ... you need to uncomment or add partner in your sources.list. it's in the instruction
[06:38] <wols_> CFC: /msg ubottu java   /msg ubottu partner
[06:38] <j0el0g> wols_: the file disappeared from my home directory so it must have gone somewhere
[06:38] <syn-ack> yeah the lost and found
[06:38] <uranellus> ^^
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> Cfc: in google type: natty java   and him "I'm feeling lucky"
[06:38] <j0el0g> wols_, did an ls of my home and first it was there before the mv
[06:39] <wols_> j0el0g: yes, it went to your root directory / like you specified. you used your mv command very very wrongly. be much more careful when you use sudo. last but not least, using sudo for this command was wrong
[06:39] <j0el0g> haha is there a lost and found ?
[06:39] <syn-ack> yes
[06:39] <Gskellig> still no glxinfo
[06:39] <wols_> j0el0g: there is but syn-ack is misleading you. ignore him
[06:39] <syn-ack> bah
[06:39] <syn-ack> I wasn't trolling nor misleading, I just wasn't paying attention.
[06:40] <wols_> j0el0g: / is your root directory. and that's where you moved the file. you wanted to acutally use ~/ as ActionParsnip told you
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> j0el0g: look in the root of your filesystem. If the command you showed is what you ran then it will be there
[06:40] <wols_> j0el0g: and you are not supposed to use sudo while copying or moving files inside your home directory. bad habit and very very dangerous since a small typo like yours can erase your whole system
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> celthunder: true but technically every question could be responded to in that way...
[06:42] <CFC> i think im done whith this....... its not letting me get java and those /msg ubottu java /msg ubottu partner didnt help
[06:43] <Gskellig> wols_, i think i had a breakthrough here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/768656
[06:43] <wols_> CFC: as you've been told you need to add partner to your sources.list and then it will happily install sun java
[06:43] <sabgenton> whats the quickest way to turn off x
[06:43] <CFC> sources.list?
[06:43] <wols_> CFC: and /msg ubottu partner tells you the exact command to run even to dothat
[06:43] <celthunder> sabgenton: telinit 3
[06:43] <sabgenton> and is there a way to not load X by adding to a grub line?
[06:43] <wols_> sabgenton: you mean on boot, so it doesn't boot into X?
[06:44] <sabgenton> ok 3 to a grub line
[06:44] <celthunder> sabgenton: yes add 3 to the kernel line
[06:44] <wols_> sabgenton: no, you can't do it by editing grub
[06:44] <Gskellig> rebooting
[06:44] <Gskellig> brb
[06:44] <celthunder> sabgenton: add 3 to the kernel line or in /etc/inittab change the default to 3
[06:44] <sabgenton> celthunder: allready tryed must have done the wrong line
[06:44] <celthunder> sabgenton: init=3 if just 3 doesn't work
[06:44] <CFC> ubottu partner command not found
[06:45] <CFC> ohh wait
[06:45] <CFC> lol
[06:45] <sabgenton> i did e then changed the line starting wth kernel
[06:45] <CFC> its a bot here
[06:45] <CFC> X3
[06:45] <sabgenton> or was it linux
[06:45] <sabgenton> then F10
[06:45] <sabgenton> hey and how do you prevent a usb from auto mounting?
[06:46] <celthunder> sabgenton: make a udisks/udev rule
[06:46] <dtsund> Are some repository mirrors down?
[06:46] <syn-ack> celthunder, UBuntu doesn't use the inittab
[06:46] <celthunder> sabgenton: or edit the consolekit rules....
[06:46] <vpark> where to get the font calibre?
[06:46] <syn-ack> hasn't for  while.
[06:46] <IcemanV9> CFC: from ubottu : The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[06:47] <vpark> where to get the font calibre?:)
[06:47] <CFC> sudo add-apt-repository command not found
[06:47] <dtsund> Even apt-get update isn't working for me at the moment...
[06:48] <wols_> CFC: lsb-release -a
[06:48] <Trond--> Is there a program like ExtractNow for Ubuntu?
[06:48] <celthunder> Trond--: what does it do and i daresay it's likely there is...
[06:48] <celthunder> Trond--: based on the name anyway
[06:48] <evanescent> My system freezes constantly after upgrading to 11.04. In my xorg.0.log file I see "EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop." followed by a backtrace. Google shows other people have the same problem, but I can't find a workaround or fix.
[06:49] <sabgenton> celthunder: telinit 3 didn't work
[06:49] <IcemanV9> CFC: type: add-apt-re (hit tab) .. if it completes the whole word, then it should work
[06:49] <celthunder> sabgenton: apparently syn-ack has a better solution....and stupid crap like that's hwy i don't ues ubuntu on my desktop
[06:50] <CFC> nope
[06:50] <sabgenton> yeah I tought init was dififerent now
[06:50] <syn-ack> celthunder, you've got to disable it in Upstart.
[06:50] <syn-ack> So yeah, I do have a better solution.
[06:50] <sabgenton> syn-ack: how do i just turn of x
[06:51] <sabgenton> while it's runing
[06:51] <sabgenton> I though upstart had changed the old school
[06:51] <syn-ack> while it's running? sudo service x stop
[06:51] <IcemanV9> CFC: what? it's part of apt-get stuff.
[06:51] <syn-ack> iirc
[06:52] <IcemanV9> CFC: lsb_release -sc
[06:52] <linux_hacks> Trond: try installing ExtractNow on wine
[06:52] <syn-ack> I just got done driving for the day (500 miles) so I'm pretty beat and can't think clearly atm
[06:52] <celthunder> syn-ack: thanks...i'll remember that...and :) give credit where credit's due my solution didn't work...you mentioned having one :)
[06:52] <CFC> now it said Natty
[06:52] <sabgenton> syn-ack: unrecongiesed service
[06:52] <wols_> sabgenton: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting and the job you want to stop is your displaymanager
[06:53] <surappuli> Hello !
[06:53] <IcemanV9> CFC: i've tried it on mine; it worked. sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[06:53] <syn-ack> wols_, Thanks for that one, I'm seriously beat. I'm just waiting for the wife to call...
[06:53] <CFC> all of it?
[06:53] <linux_hacks> surappuli:yes
[06:53] <IcemanV9> CFC: yes. sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[06:54] <CFC> it says the command is not found
[06:54] <wols_> CFC: dpkg -l python-software-properties |tail -1
[06:54] <sabgenton> wols_: cool
[06:54] <surappuli> Hey  Linux hacks !
[06:55] <CFC> no package found that match python software propeties
[06:55] <gul> I want a customized panel at bottom. It should be like a launcher with short-cuts. see this link: http://lynucs.deviantart.com/art/bliss-105565250?q=boost%3Apopular%20in%3Acustomization%2Fscreenshots%2Fnix&qo=9        like the one shown below.
[06:55] <wols_> CFC: I wrote python-software-properties   not the slashes in there
[06:55] <wols_> CFC: and if it's not installed, install it
[06:55] <CFC> oki
[06:56] <wols_> *note the slashes
[06:56] <j0el0g> wols_,  so to check out my root where my file was sent i'd do a ls /
[06:56] <CFC> oki now its installed
[06:57] <IcemanV9> CFC: try again to add partner
[06:57] <sabgenton> wols_: I don't know the service name to stop x
[06:57] <sabgenton> 'x' is not a service
[06:57] <maco> sabgenton: sudo service gdm stop
[06:57] <CFC> oki now it did not sy anything
[06:57] <syn-ack> that's right
[06:58] <syn-ack> ugh
[06:58] <wols_> CFC: sy?
[06:58] <syn-ack> Man, I think I'm going to bed. g'night guys.
[06:58] <CFC> say*
[06:58] <IcemanV9> CFC: it's okay. now, sudo apt-get update , then try to install sun-java
[06:59] <alvinPH> hello guys,, i have a question, can make or rn androidx86 in a USB stick?
[06:59] <CFC> its installing =D
[07:00] <Ricoshady> is the linux filesystem timestamp, create or modified?
[07:00] <linux_hacks> Ricoshady: what do you mean by create or modified?
[07:00] <Ricoshady> is the timestamp, you see with ls, the created date for the file, or the last time it was modified?
[07:01] <wols_> Ricoshady: the one you normally see is mtime
[07:01] <CFC> is there anything els i need?
[07:01] <arand> Ricoshady: You can view them all via "stat"
[07:01] <wols_> alvinPH: define "make androidx86"
[07:01] <gul> I want a customized panel at bottom. It should be like a launcher with short-cuts. see this link: http://lynucs.deviantart.com/art/bliss-105565250?q=boost%3Apopular%20in%3Acustomization%2Fscreenshots%2Fnix&qo=9        like the one shown below. Any body knows?
[07:01] <IcemanV9> CFC: when it's done, type java --version (to be sure it's installed)
[07:02] <alvinPH> what i mean is , can i run androidOSx86 from a live USB?
[07:02] <Ricoshady> arand. i want to use find, to find all session files that haven't been modified in the last 7 days
[07:02] <wols_> Ricoshady: man find
[07:02] <Ricoshady> find . -mtime +7
[07:02] <CFC> Unrecognized option: --version
[07:02] <wols_> alvinPH: how is this ubuntu related?
[07:03] <celthunder> alvinPH: yes
[07:03] <MK``> Is the workspace switcher panel widget the only way for me to edit the number and arrangement of workspaces?
[07:03] <IcemanV9> CFC: i don't have java on this box ... java -version
[07:04] <alvinPH> because i'm running ubuntu and i dont want ubuntu to be removed thats why i'm just testing androidOS
[07:04] <CFC> that worked
[07:04] <CFC> and seems its done
[07:04] <IcemanV9> CFC: okay. then you're all set
[07:04] <CFC> thanks again
[07:05] <CFC> now i need write diwb all this commands
[07:05] <dtsund> Might someone know why apt-get's failing to get libncursesw5-dev for me?
[07:06] <wols_> dtsund: pastebin your command and its full output
[07:06] <wols_> dtsund: and apt-cache policy libncursesw5-dev  however you probably want libncurses5-dev   note: no "w" there
[07:06] <MK``> Does having more workspaces, even if they are empty, increase memory use?
[07:06] <gueriLLaPunK> im in /etc/polipo and im trying to save a file in there, but it wont let me... access denied
[07:07] <gueriLLaPunK> im using Thunar
[07:07] <wols_> MK``: maybe a few kilobyte for the datastructures. negligible
[07:07] <IcemanV9> CFC: type history in the terminal it will show all commands if you don't remember
[07:07] <wols_> gueriLLaPunK: you don't have access right. need to use sudo
[07:07] <MK``> ok wols_ thanks. Can you see my previous question too please?
[07:07] <wols_> gueriLLaPunK: or run thunar via gksudo/sux/etc
[07:07] <gueriLLaPunK> how do i use sudo if im in a gui?
[07:08] <dtsund> wols_: I already have regular libncurses on this machine, need the wide version to compile a program
[07:08] <dtsund> http://pastebin.com/JBa9KJGV
[07:08] <rpisharody> Hmm. Need a Help. Anybody knows of a serail data transfer program that I can use for scripting ?
[07:09] <dtsund> (apt-get update doesn't help, just throws more errors and suggests that I run apt-get update to fix that.  Doubt recursion will help here.)
[07:09] <dtsund> (Err, more 404 errors.)
[07:10] <wols_> dtsund: apt-get update first. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libncursesw5-dev&searchon=names&suite=natty&section=all as you can see there is no package from 2009 in natty, but 2010. your sources.list or that mirror is outdated
[07:10] <dtsund> Already tried apt-get update.
[07:10] <wols_> dtsund: unless you give us the exact errors you get we cannot help you. "thorws more errors" is useless for us
[07:11] <dtsund> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/multiverse/source/Sources  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[07:11] <dtsund> (and several more lines like that)
[07:11] <tomek_> what is good antivirus for ubuntu
[07:12] <wols_> !antivirus
[07:12] <rpisharody> I tried Cutecom, unfortunately, it has only a GUI :P
[07:12] <tomek_> is standard ubuntu firewall secure?
[07:12] <rkirian> trying to upgrade/update ubuntu, while keeping the existing kernel at 2.6.28-11-server-- can someone help me?
[07:12] <wols_> dtsund: "jaunty" looks like a big pointer why there is a problem
[07:13] <wols_> tomek_: you don't need a firewall either
[07:13] <tomek_> dont need?
[07:13] <wols_> !errors | rkirian
[07:13] <arand> !firewall | tomek_
[07:14] <wols_> !jaunty | dtsund
[07:14] <wols_> dtsund: notice the "end of life" date there
[07:14] <dtsund> Blar.
[07:15] <rkirian> ubottu: sudo apt-get update returns this: W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ub........../Packages  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[07:15] <wols_> dtsund: if you want to run the same ubuntu installation for a long time, use LTS releases
[07:16] <wols_> rkirian: FULL output and error message. in a pastebin
[07:16] <dtsund> Well... upgrading on this connection will probably take several days.
[07:16] <dtsund> Or at least one.
[07:16] <dtsund> I'd hoped to avoid it.
[07:17] <jhala> what is happening with gmail .it not opening with firefox or opera~~~~~~~~~!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:17] <wols_> dtsund: old versions like jaunty are unsupported and therefore accumulate more and more security holes and exploits
[07:17] <rkirian> ok, I guess I need to understand what a paste bin is.  basically, it's the same error I just quoted, multiple times over
[07:17] <wols_> dtsund: so you really should upgrade it to 10.04
[07:17] <wols_> !pastebin
[07:18] <wols_> rkirian: ^^ that is a pastebin. paste.ubuntu.com
[07:18] <jhala> is anyone able to login to gmail today or am i the only one who is having this issue!!!!!!!
[07:19] <j0el0g> wols_,  i hate i keep directing lots of stuff to you but why was it so wrong to sudo mv
[07:20] <j0el0g> don't i need to be the root to mess around w/ my .ssh
[07:20] <rkirian> wols_: just tried to paste the message, trying to get the address to you (firefox just has http://paste.ubuntu.com/ in the address bar)
[07:20] <IcemanV9> jhala: it works fine
[07:20] <j0el0g> *i thought .ssh was hidden from ls for a reason
[07:20] <Andyman> I want to rebuild a package from source to include an extra option, but how can I find out what options were used by the package maintainer when creating the binary?
[07:20] <wols_> rkirian: you paste the output and then press the "paste" button
[07:21] <wols_> rkirian: then you have a different url in your adress bar
[07:21] <wols_> j0el0g: no you don't need to be root. ALL files in your ~ are owned by you, no root necessary
[07:21] <rkirian> wols_: yep, trying to figure this out
[07:21] <jhala> IcemanV9
[07:21] <jhala> IcemanV9: Its not opening here from morning. what to do . very crucial
[07:22] <Samo502> Andyman: wouldn't that come down to the maintainer? most of the more popular packages would probably have compile instructions or something
[07:22] <j0el0g> wols_,  so this idea of being able to mess around with the root IS NOT intended in ubuntu
[07:22] <wols_> Andyman: you check debian/rules in the source package
[07:22] <Andyman> wols_: Thanks, that's what I was looking for
[07:22] <j0el0g> i was previously using linux mint and i su-ed all the time
[07:23] <rkirian> wols_: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/616428/
[07:23] <ihashacks> Andyman: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/rebuilding-ubuntu-debian-linux-binary-package/
[07:23] <ihashacks> I used that to rebuild GSTM with some patches I found on Launchpad
[07:23] <wols_> !jaunty | rkirian
[07:24] <wols_> rkirian: jaunty is end of life. doesn't exist anymore, is insecure too. please upgrade to something supported like 10.04
[07:24] <rkirian> wols_: happy to upgrade, but must keep same kernel for raid card to work
[07:24] <Andyman> ihashacks: Thank you, too.
[07:24] <rkirian> any advice
[07:25] <wols_> rkirian: is it a ubuntu kernel?
[07:25] <ihashacks> Andyman: config.log and config.status will probably have some info as to what configure -- options were included
[07:25] <wols_> rkirian: and what raid card is this?
[07:25] <rkirian> wols_: linux kernel
[07:25] <ihashacks> Andyman: for GSTM for example, config.log has "$ ./configure --host=x86_64-linux-gnu --build=x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --mandir=${prefix}/share/man --infodir=${prefix}/    share/info"
[07:26] <rkirian> wols_: high point "rocket raid"
[07:27] <CFC> thanks for all help =3
[07:27] <rkirian> wols_: crappy raid card, driver won't work with any other kernel
[07:27] <Andyman> ihashacks: I already found it in debian/rules. I can't find the files you mentioned in the apt-source I just downloaded for nginx
[07:27] <CFC> if i need more ill come back
[07:27] <wols_> rkirian: so it's not a kernel you got from ubuntu but compiled yourself?
[07:28] <rkirian> wols_: no, I just installed an older version of ubunter server which had this kernel
[07:28] <mlmg317-himts> Hello.  Can someone help me with a problem I've having with PlayOnLinux?  I need to get Internet Explorer running in Ubuntu 11.04 ...
[07:28] <rkirian> wols_: would be great if I can just upgrade software while keeping same kernel, just wondering if this is a possibility
[07:29] <cheapie> I have Intel HD integrated audio (snd-hda-intel) but I also have a SoundBlaster Live! Value (snd-emu10k1). Which should I use?
[07:29] <wols_> rkirian: what kernel version. uname -a
[07:30] <wols_> rkirian: and what is the PCI ID of the rocket raid kernel?
[07:30] <rkirian> wols_: Linux xfel1 2.6.28-11-server #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 02:45:36 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:30] <alvinPH> what do you prefer, androidx86 or damn small linux?
[07:30] <mlmg317-himts> When I run PlayonLinux, it just hangs when it is downloading updates ...  I don't really know if it's progressing or not, because just hangs for quite a while ...
[07:30] <wols_> alvinPH: ask #linux please. this is a #ubuntu only channel
[07:31] <alvinPH> wew, sorry for that..
[07:31] <mlmg317-himts> Any suggestions?
[07:31] <cheapie> I have Intel HD integrated audio (snd-hda-intel) but I also have a SoundBlaster Live! Value (snd-emu10k1). Which should I use? I can't hear any difference in sound quality.
[07:31] <wols_> rkirian: you will probably get problems pretty soon with udev :(  why can't you use linux software raid instead of the crappy rocket raid?
[07:31] <wols_> cheapie: SB Live
[07:32] <mlmg317-himts> How do I get Internet Explorer to run in Ubuntu 11.04.  How would I do this with Wine?
[07:32] <cheapie> wols_: OK. That's what I thought. Thanks!
[07:32] <cheapie> mlmg317-himts: Why?
[07:32] <wols_> mlmg317-himts: as http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=25 shows, you effectively can't
[07:33] <alvinPH> i'm sure this is now a valid question, :D how can i download an ISO of ubuntu using FTP client like Uget or filezilla?
[07:35] <rkirian> wols_: don't know how to use software raid, but can look into it.  do you think there is not a way to keep an existing kernel, while still using apt-get to update software?
[07:35] <gskellig> apt-get purge nvidia-current almost worked
[07:35] <rkirian> wols_: I just want to install gitosis
[07:36] <wols_> rkirian: there is. archive.ubuntu.com instead of your current repository. but as I said: more and more security holes
[07:36] <wols_> and older and older software
[07:36] <wols_> alvinPH: use a webbrowser instead or wget: http://releases.ubuntu.com//natty/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso
[07:37] <brown_fern> I was just looking over Uncomplicated Firewall (ufw) and wondered, if I'm otherwise running firestarter is it too old to be of use? http://www.fs-security.com/
[07:37] <wols_> alvinPH: but if you insist on ftp: http://www.cyberciti.biz/files/ubuntu-8.10-dvd-iso-ftphttp-list.php
[07:37] <gskellig> wols_, i'm back. nearly broke everything but i got back to square 1
[07:38] <tomreyn> mlmg317-himts: you might be able to get IE running on to of wine, but it will involve getting a lot of depepdencies installed first, then tweak thnings around for hours etc. i'm also not aware of any tutorial. i think your best option is using virtualization such as virtualbox.
[07:38] <rkirian> wols_: does this mean to point /etc/apt/sources.list to some older repositories?
[07:38] <alvinPH> wols_: dloding via web browser only sucks, i want a quite faster process. like internet download manager in MS.
[07:39] <wols_> rkirian: different repositories. same version (jaunty) of ubuntu
[07:39] <wols_> alvinPH: I just gave you a list of ftp mirrors with dozens of ftp servers
[07:39] <wols_> alvinPH: and http is as fast as ftp btw. all download managers can do ftp and http both
[07:39] <rkirian> wols_: ok, I'll try to figure things out from here.  thanks.
[07:39] <gskellig> I think the nvidia drivers are breaking glx/unity on my intel card
[07:40] <gskellig> when i did apt-get purge nvidia-current it wouldn't boot. I just had a mouse and was at the ubuntu loading screen for like 20 mins
[07:40] <curiousx> alvinPH: you can use JDownloader as well
[07:40] <curiousx> i am using plowshare =) is a CLI downloader
[07:40] <rpisharody> Any good serial programs that you all know ? Other than Cutecom and minicom ? I need it to be included in a script !
[07:41] <wols_> alvinPH: ftp://ftp.tcc.edu.tw/iso/Ubuntu/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso
[07:41] <wols_> gskellig: now why would you have nvidia drivers installed when you only have intel hardware?
[07:41] <gskellig> i have an nvidia card as well
[07:41] <gskellig> two graphics cards in my laptop
[07:41] <wols_> gskellig: optimus doesn't work very well/at all under linux
[07:42] <gskellig> I don't want optimus
[07:42] <tomreyn> brown_fern: both are just frontends to iptables and iptables is still in oneiric + natty so your chances are firestarter still works.
[07:42] <gskellig> just want to disable nvidia and use intel
[07:42] <alvinPH> curiousx: how can i install jdownloader?
[07:43] <wols_> alvinPH: you get a java jre and then go to jdownload.org and install it
[07:43] <wols_> *jdownloader.org I think rather
[07:43] <wols_> Iron: is there any special reason you are sending private messages to people out of the blue?
[07:43] <curiousx> alvinPH: waith a minit i ill tell you how
[07:44] <alvinPH> wols_: alright, thank u very  much to both of you! :D
[07:45] <brown_fern> tomreyn: thank you, I enjoy how easy firestarter is to setup as a frontend to iptables, but wasn't sure if its code was current enough that it didn't cause a problem itself.
[07:45] <tomreyn> alvinPH: being a java applcation, jdownloader eats quite a bit of RAM, though. I'd suggest you use pyLoad instead to download from sile upload service websites which require entering captchas. but i'm nit even sure this was what you asked about.
[07:45] <brown_fern> tomreyn: thanks again for the information.
[07:46] <tomreyn> brown_fern: i have not used either so far, so i really can't know for sure. and iptables is a moving target (though backwards compatble for the most)
[07:46] <gskellig> on Wubi, i had nvidia card disabled and unity working perfectly on my intel GMA x4500
[07:47] <tomreyn> brown_fern: but still the fact that both are included in natty makes me think both will work
[07:47] <alvinPH> tomreyn: it's alright about RAM usage coz i'm running Xubuntu.. and as we all know linux uses quite small ram right/
[07:47] <gskellig> on "normal" ubuntu, I think the nvidia drivers are breaking glx/unity on the intel card
[07:47] <brown_fern> tomreyn: that is good to know, maybe I should be looking for iptables information and not just information on firestarter.
[07:47] <gskellig> but removing the nvidia drivers makes ubuntu not boot
[07:47] <tomreyn> brown_fern: you could check bug reports to make sure
[07:47] <curiousx> alvinPH: here are the commands ---> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:jd-team/jdownloader ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install jdownloader
[07:51] <wols_> !errors | gskellig
[07:51] <gskellig> there is no error it just won't start
[07:52] <gskellig> i dont know why it wont boot, i cant see a terminal so i can't see whats breaking
[07:53]  * wols_ curses the stupidly set up kernel parameters of ubuntu
[07:53] <gskellig> =\
[07:53] <tomreyn> alvinPH: I still recommned you also look into http://pyload.org/ ;-)
[07:54] <pfifo> how can I view a document in 'ePub' format?
[07:55] <gskellig> wols_, here are the errors of unity --replace    http://pastebin.com/BYJftqe7
[07:55] <gskellig> more GLX issues
[07:56] <wols_> gskellig: Cannot register the panel shell: there is already one running.   and you are running on 1:0 so there is already another X session running
[07:56] <Jonie> hi!
[07:56] <Jonie> i want to ask about Ubuntu server
[07:56] <gskellig> how do i switch?
[07:57] <wols_> gskellig: first you stop your 1:0 server/session
[07:57] <gskellig> how do i do that?
[07:57] <wols_> and ctrl+alt+Fx to switch between terminals/sessions
[07:58] <wols_> you close the current X session
[07:58] <alvinPH> tomreyn: what's that pyload all about?
[07:58] <wols_> alvinPH: a downloader like jdownloader but using less ressources
[07:58] <JayWalker_> hey, im trying to set up software raid on a comp. just need to know what filesystem /boot needs to be, or does it not matter?
[07:58] <gskellig> okay
[07:58] <alvinPH> ahh, i see wait, i will test for jdownloader.. thanks to curiousx
[07:59] <wols_> JayWalker_: just don't put /boot on the raid. usually ext2 or ext3 is used
[07:59] <gskellig> only appears to be one running
[07:59] <wols_> gskellig: sudo ps aux |grep X
[07:59] <JayWalker_> i read in the ubuntu guide that /boot can be raid as long as it's raid 1 (so it's just redundant, rather than striped)
[07:59] <tomreyn> pfifo: fbreader or calibre
[07:59] <wols_> JayWalker_: sure. the bootloader ignores raid1 altogether.so making it raid1 is pointless
[08:00] <Iron> Is here any person from Italy?
[08:00] <dhubble> test
[08:00] <JayWalker_> well i've already got it setup that way. so leaving it raid 1 will make no difference? and all should be well?
[08:01] <gskellig> okay I see two but i can only get to one
[08:02] <tomreyn> Iron: are you looking for #ubuntu-it ?
[08:02] <gskellig> http://pastebin.com/rhNLw7JC
[08:02] <Iron> yes
[08:03] <tomreyn> Iron: so just use this IRC command: /join #ubuntu-it
[08:03] <Gskelling> ack, that was odd
[08:03] <Gskelling> just restarted x by itself
[08:03] <bourne> haai
[08:04] <alvinPH> curiousx: why is jdownloader updating and so slow ?
[08:04] <Iron> Haai
[08:05] <tomreyn> JayWalker_: yes you can have /boot/ on a md raid1
[08:05] <digital1> hi
[08:06] <Gskelling> why is ubuntu having so many issues with this? it worked perfectly with both wubi, and randomly a different time I installed 11.04
[08:07] <wols_> tomreyn: but what's the point?
[08:07] <Iron> I must do the homework in italian language . Could you help me digital1?
[08:07] <magn3ts> ugh
[08:07] <magn3ts> do gtk3+ obey different font rendering rules?????
[08:08] <tomreyn> wols_: that he does not need to reconfigure his block device layers
[08:08] <digital1> I have installed ubuntu 10.10 with windows 7 but after reboot i don't see grub but start only w7
[08:08] <JayWalker_> thanks tomreyn
[08:09] <magn3ts> digital1, did you tell ubuntu not to install grub/mbr
[08:09] <Gskelling> is there anyone here that will help me get glx/unity working?
[08:09] <wols_> tomreyn: how can the bootloader deal with raid volumes? and why is it hard to add an fstab entry with /dev/sda1 for boot, why does it have to be a raid entry?
[08:10] <digital1> i have installed boot loader in partition /
[08:11] <wols_> digital1: that's the problem. you either need to install it to your MBR /dev/sda or such, or you need to add an entry to your windows 7 bootloader (easybcd for example) that loads your /dev/sdaX grub bootloader
[08:11] <digital1> to format or adjust?
[08:12] <wols_> what do you mean?
[08:12] <digital1> adjust, if it's possible
[08:12] <wols_> I just told you what you need to "adjust". two alternatives you can choose from
[08:13] <digital1> i want adjust
[08:13] <wols_> !it
[08:14] <tomreyn> wols_: there's a 'raid' module for grub2. that's how grub2 can deal with md raid. It's probably not too tough to add an fstab entry for /dev/sda1 (tough it depends much on the person doing it). But if he currently has a md RAID1 configuration he would have to go through some more steps to remove the mirror RAID device layer above /boot which he currently has in place to convert it to just a partition and file system on top of that.
[08:14] <tomreyn> repeating my last sentence since it likely got cut off: But if he currently has a md RAID1 configuration he would have to go through some more steps to remove the mirror RAID device layer above /boot which he currently has in place to convert it to just a partition and file system on top of that.
[08:14] <semitones> digital1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling from the LiveCD
[08:15] <wols_> ahm didn't know grub can deal with raid now
[08:15] <digital1> I don't know if i have grub or grub 2
[08:15] <semitones> digital1: 10.10 comes with grub 2
[08:16] <digital1> ok
[08:16] <semitones> digital1: you have to install grub to the mbr in order to see it at boot
[08:16] <wols_> semitones: not realy. several other methods are possible. like setting the bootflag on the partition grub is installed on
[08:17] <zafr> if i want to boot from cd, can i just burn the image?
[08:17] <wols_> zafr: yes
[08:17] <wols_> zafr: burn as image too
[08:17] <digital1> ok i understand, but i can adjust this or i format always
[08:17] <Su22> Hey..Please suggest me a good book to learn BaSH shell scripting...:)
[08:17] <semitones> wols_: i thought windows partitions need the boot flag or they don't  work
[08:17] <wols_> semitones: not if they are chainloaded by grub
[08:18] <Name141> Would the LTS versions be better for having a machine to just run backups and serv music, photos , so on over the network ?
[08:18] <wols_> Su22:  http://tldp.org/guides.html#abs
[08:18] <digital1> i have used ext4, it's problem?
[08:18] <zafr> dont need something like "create bootable disc"?
[08:18] <wols_> Name141: probably. less maintenance
[08:18] <semitones> Name141: yeah that sounds like a good use for it. the non-lts systems can have rough upgrades
[08:18] <zafr> or just normal cd
[08:19] <semitones> digital1: no problem :)
[08:19] <wols_> zafr: no. the iso is already bootable. burn the ISO as image
[08:19] <zafr> ok
[08:19] <wols_> zafr: which burn program?
[08:19] <Name141> semitones: I'm assuming there isn't a 10.04.1 yet?
[08:19] <zafr> all can do, right?
[08:20] <semitones> Name141: that's a good question. I don't know
[08:20] <wols_> zafr: I don't know all the burn programs in existence so I doubt all can :)
[08:20] <digital1> semitones: i format with boot loader in hd where i have partition ext4?
[08:20] <zafr> is bootable usb still work in ubuntu?
[08:20] <semitones> you don't format digital1
[08:20] <zafr> i can boot the  ubuntu using unetbootin
[08:20] <wols_> zafr: yes
[08:20] <digital1> semitones: ok,
[08:20] <semitones> just reinstall grub to the mbr with the command "grub-install"
[08:20] <semitones> it should be on the guide there
[08:21] <Name141> semitones: ah, I was just wondering so I didn't have a junk ton of updates to get after it's installed (I'm on a capped internet besides the hours of 1-6 AM)
[08:21] <zafr> i boot from usb and it ends with blackscreen
[08:21] <zafr> theres some words on it
[08:22] <digital1> i have need help for this action
[08:22] <wols_> Name141: use a cronjob to update at 1am then :)
[08:22] <semitones> Name141: understood. ubuntu.com will probably give you the most updated .iso if you download from there
[08:23] <digital1> semitones: i reboot windows 7 and work with ubuntu live-cd, you help me for grub?
[08:23] <semitones> digital1: sure thing
[08:24] <digital1> tnks
[08:24] <Name141> wols_: I'm assuming I'd have to use roots crontab
[08:24] <zafr> i boot from usb and it ends with blackscreen with some word on it...  copyright (person`s name) 19**-2011... something like that
[08:24] <wols_> Name141: check out apt-cron
[08:25] <wols_> Name141: mea culpa, cron-apt  rather
[08:25] <Name141> semitones: it still shows up as 10.04.
[08:25] <digital1> ubottu: Come hai capito che sono italiano?
[08:26] <digital1> k
[08:26] <Name141> Anyway I could use Unetbootin or something to.. oh wait I can just boot live and make it do a flash disk since I have the CD instead of ISO
[08:28] <semitones> !it | digital1 was this what you were looking for?
[08:28] <Name141> wols_: setting up root's cron to do apt-get update && apt-get distupgrade wouldn't work ?
[08:28] <tomreyn> semitones: he left
[08:29] <Su22> Programming Linux Hacker Tools Uncovered:Exploits, Backdoors, Scanners, Sniffers, Brute-Forcers, Rootkits by Ivan Sklyarov...How to get this ebook for free...I googled and binged several times...But still can't find the right site to download..I got a Rapidshare link but it contains source code and not the ebook...Please help..
[08:29] <semitones> tomreyn: oh whoops
[08:29] <tomreyn> :)
[08:30] <tomreyn> Su22: can you remind me what this channel is about again?
[08:31] <Su22> tomreyn: I don't know about this....I'm a new one....First time I'm using IRC
[08:32] <gueriLLaPunK> whats the command that shows me my localip and remote ip, gateway, etc
[08:32] <tomreyn> !offtopic | Su22
[08:33] <Su22> ok....Sorry....guys
[08:34] <tomreyn> gueriLLaPunK: for the local information: ip or ifconfig on a terminal, or use network managers' connection properties
[08:34] <flametai1> I hate zk =D
[08:34] <Name141> semitones: If I was to update the live edition on the flash stick using the rest of the flash' space, would it install the updated packages during install ?
[08:34] <Name141> Or revert back to the ones from the ISO/Disk
[08:34] <flametai1> Damn it wrong channel -.- Sorry guys
[08:35] <tomreyn> gueriLLaPunK: the external IP address is only known to your internet access device not to your computer in your LAN (I assume you have a LAN)
[08:35] <firbfs> I have lost ubuntu top bar, unity side bar, window title bar. Any one have ideas for a fix?
[08:35] <gueriLLaPunK> its a dedicated server, so the LAN IP is the same as it's external IP
[08:35] <gueriLLaPunK> a dedi in a data center*
[08:36] <gueriLLaPunK> there was another command, not ifconfig
[08:36] <gueriLLaPunK> that displayed just four lines of text
[08:36] <gueriLLaPunK> cant remember it
[08:36] <gueriLLaPunK> it had the gateway listed
[08:36] <semitones> Name141: it used to be that it would install the updated packages, but I'm not sure if it does in natty (I seem to remember it not working -- i spent a long time configuring ndiswrapper, and then the intalled system didn't it installed)
[08:36] <tomreyn> gueriLLaPunK: i suggested two commands, 'ip' and 'ifconfig'
[08:36] <semitones> Name141: it's possible someone else here knows for sure, it might have just been me
[08:36] <voliptitude46> Hi ppl Im trying to upgrade to anything past 9.04 using upgrade tool, doesnt seem to work, do I need to download an ISO ? im using a really poor conection so, Im looking for options, can I get a friend to download an ISO of 10/11.whatever  for me and use that ?
[08:36] <tomreyn> gueriLLaPunK: 'ip addr' may be what you're after
[08:37] <[deXter]> Hi all, anyone know of a lightweight dock that can hold minimized windows, similar to wbar?
[08:37] <gueriLLaPunK> thanks tomaw
[08:37] <gueriLLaPunK> tomreyn*
[08:38] <tomreyn> yw
[08:39] <digital1> semitones: i am
[08:40] <Night-Hacks1> is there any new 2.6.34 kernel for lucid ?
[08:40] <Night-Hacks1> newer*
[08:40] <alvinPH> i've tried booting ubuntu 11.04 from USB a couple of days before but it's freeking freezing often, was it a bug?
[08:40] <semitones> ok
[08:41] <Night-Hacks1> alvinPH: i changed my flash memory and it worked
[08:41] <digital1> semitones: listen, i have sda and sdb
[08:41] <Gordio> Hi2all.
[08:41] <alvinPH> so it's also depends on the media?
[08:41] <digital1> semitones: in sda i have sda2, sda5, sda6, sda7
[08:41] <semitones> digital1: are they both harddisks?
[08:41] <semitones> or isone usb
[08:42] <Night-Hacks1> alvinPH: yeah for me it had.
[08:42] <digital1> semitones: yes
[08:42] <alvinPH> sorry wrong grammar* XD
[08:42] <Gordio> Whot me need do if one #ubuntu-<lang> op use many privilege?
[08:42] <digital1> in sda5 i have windows 7
[08:42] <Gordio> *a
[08:43] <Hot> hello, I can't listen nothing when the  Keyboard Preferences>Audio Feedback > Beep when a key is pressed is enabled ,is it a gnome bug ? (I'm starting ubuntu gnome classic with effects)
[08:43] <alvinPH> but why on xubuntu 11.04 it's no sweat? maybe the lightweightness of xubuntu does it. .:D
[08:43] <semitones> my guess is you need to install to /dev/sda
[08:43] <digital1> semitones: in sda7 i have installed ubuntu (swap+/) and boot loader
[08:44] <d3vlin> Howdy, Xorg spits out error messages that it can't load NVIDIA module (http://paste.ubuntu.com/616475/), however it is loaded and X starts (http://paste.ubuntu.com/616476/)
[08:44] <d3vlin> I wonder what's going on
[08:45] <ric000> Urgent question: I am using Ubuntu 11.04 on a laptop with wireless- up until recently anything related to network connectivity was fine. I am now using the laptop with wireless at home, and working well, the same applies for school. BUT, when I take my laptop to my summer house, I can connect to the wireless network, but not much else, pings tell me "destination host unreachable" and I cant even view the the routers config web app by using <IP_ADDRESS> - I tr
[08:45] <ric000> ied search the internet but found nothing related. ANY HELP would be greatly appreciated.
[08:45] <alvinPH> i'm just wondering why it took only less than 5 mins when i installed xubuntu, the installation window didn't even said that the installation was finished
[08:45] <digital1> semitones: i how can make this?
[08:46] <Gordio> hm. democratic... yeah... >_<
[08:46] <semitones> digital1: ok, can you follow the guide here to install grub to sda? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling from the LiveCD
[08:46] <digital1> ok i try
[08:46] <semitones> i can help you if you have any questions
[08:46] <[deXter]> ric000, Was the signal strength strong enough?
[08:46] <digital1> semitones: ok, tnks
[08:46] <semitones> np
[08:46] <tomreyn> d3vlin: X seems to trigger the module being loadd, then realizes it it not working, and stops using it. check what dmesg says.
[08:47] <digital1> semitones: acc, is al in english
[08:47] <ric000> [deXter], yes, the signal strength is good, it connects immedietely (I even tried with wires connection)
[08:47] <digital1> all
[08:47] <alvinPH> how can we submit suggestions or comments direct to the concerned developers?
[08:47] <ric000> [deXter], and all other laptops work at mu summer house, just not mine with Ubuntu
[08:47] <semitones> digital1: have you tried asking in #ubuntu-it
[08:48] <[deXter]> ric000, did you try it with some other OS as well on your laptop?
[08:48] <semitones> i only speak english too
[08:48] <ric000> [deXter], yes, with other OS's everything is fine
[08:48] <[deXter]> ric000, Also, some configurations have problems with certain types of encryption, or channels.
[08:48] <digital1> semitones: they sleeping now.
[08:48] <ric000> [deXter], Even if connected via wired connection (eth0)?
[08:49] <ric000> [deXter], directly to the ADSL model
[08:49] <[deXter]> ric000, You mean it didn't work even when you plugged in directly?
[08:49] <digital1> semitones: I don't want lost windows 7, if you help me ok , or i format and adjust
[08:49] <Hot> hello, I can't listen nothing when the  Keyboard Preferences>Audio Feedback > Beep when a key is pressed is enabled ,is it a gnome bug ? (I'm starting ubuntu gnome classic with effects)
[08:50] <semitones> i'll help you, but i'm just going over the commands in the guide
[08:50] <ric000> [deXter], no, funny thing - I have the same service provider both at home and my summer house (both ADSL).... all laptops work @ summer house with different OS's, my laptop works with another OS.... and just recently, I can connect and get an internal IP address, but nothing else.
[08:50] <ric000> [deXter], this happens both using wireless and wired, directly to modem, or using router. Same issues
[08:50] <semitones> digital1: are you on the live cd now?
[08:50] <digital1> yes
[08:52] <livingdaylight> Greetings Comrades!
[08:52] <semitones> and does "df -h" show that /dev/sda7 is mounted as "/" ?
[08:52] <[deXter]> ric000, Have you tried booting from a clean live cd/usb?
[08:53] <wols_> ric000: you need to check logs and error message in your summer house to see why it doesn't work. otherwise, this is all simply guesswork and our crystalball was stolen by trolls recently
[08:53] <ric000> [deXter], Will try that
[08:53] <ric000> wols_, I understand, but it does not make any sence
[08:54] <IcyPolecat> quick q - is it possible to upgrade Ubuntu (Server) to a specific version using do-release-upgrade? Need to jump from 9.04 to 9.10 but can't find a way to do it?
[08:54] <wols_> semitones: I doubt it does. after all, he's on the live cd
[08:55] <semitones> wols_: he said it did earlier, i just wanted to confirm
[08:55] <semitones> oh yeha
[08:55] <wols_> IcyPolecat: you simply edit your sources.list to 9.10 and upgrade
[08:55] <semitones> never mind
[08:55]  * semitones sleeps now
[08:55] <wols_> semitones: better tell him about chroot and such. good luck
[08:55] <wols_> semitones: good night
[08:55] <semitones> night wols :)
[08:56] <IcyPolecat> wols_: so just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[08:56] <wols_> IcyPolecat: however, 9.10 is already EOL too. archive.ubuntu.com still has repos howeverIIRC
[08:56] <semitones> (the grub 2 guide has methods easier than chroot too)
[08:56] <wols_> IcyPolecat: the usual mirrors don't have 9.04 nor 9.10 anymore
[08:57] <petrolman> Hi, ever tried to make a screenshot with GIMP in Ubuntu 11.04? I always get the standard desktop background only.
[08:57] <IcyPolecat> wols_: yeah I just need to get back onto an active upgrade path to reach an LTS release - a couple of our servers are a little ... behind
[08:57] <zertyu> hello
[08:57] <wols_> IcyPolecat: as I said: archive.ubuntu.com
[08:58] <zertyu> i can't find php5-pdo from apt
[08:58] <IcyPolecat> wols_: great thanks!
[08:58] <wols_> IcyPolecat: and this time, stay with a LTS release :)
[08:58] <zertyu> how to get ?
[08:58] <d3vlin> tomreyn: here's everything nvidia related from dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/616482/
[08:58] <d3vlin> it seems to load the module in the end
[08:58] <IcyPolecat> wols_: yeah yeah ... would you believe this server was never meant to go into production ;)
[08:59] <wols_> zertyu: you sure it's not already integrated into normal php5 packages?
[08:59] <zertyu> dont know how to check ?
[09:00] <wols_> zertyu: http://www.php.net/manual/en/pdo.connections.php you try one of those examples and see if you get errors
[09:00] <alvinPH> how can i integrate jdownloader to take ober downloads?
[09:00] <wols_> zertyu: I'm very sure it's already built into php
[09:01] <wols_> alvinPH: depends on the browser
[09:01] <petrolman> Why does the system control show a much higher cpu use than the command top in a terminal?
[09:01] <alvinPH> i'm using firefox
[09:01] <garyboy> yo someone plz private chat me?
[09:01] <garyboy> idk how to do anything lol
[09:02] <zertyu> ok thanks wols_
[09:02] <wols_> alvinPH: options - applications
[09:02] <pfifo> petrolman, I think top only shows resources of one cpu at a time, refer to the manual and see if there are options to give more details
[09:02] <garyboy> hey guys how do you private chat someone?
[09:03] <wols_> garyboy: /msg <nick> <text>
[09:03] <petrolman> pfifo, I pressed 1 for all cpus in top, all cpus are lower than the cpu display in the system control
[09:04] <HardDisk> garyboy, if you are on xchat for example. right click their nick and click open dialog window
[09:04] <garyboy> i did harddisk
[09:04] <HardDisk> then type in the window and you will start a private chat with that person.
[09:04] <garyboy> k thx
[09:05] <TbHack> is irc private chat with people recorded?
[09:05] <mah454_> when i add keyboard layout with numpad in ubuntu . my numpad disables ...
[09:05] <mah454_> why?
[09:05] <HardDisk> TbHack, if they choose to log, yes
[09:05] <pfifo> petrolman, im not sure what the issue is, could be several things
[09:05] <tomreyn> IcyPolecat: for an alternative option, you could run a cdrom upgrade. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD
[09:05] <mah454_> when i add keyboard layout with numpad in ubuntu . my numpad disabled ... !
[09:05] <TbHack> HardDisk o
[09:05] <TbHack> HardDisk ok
[09:05] <HardDisk> TbHack, anything you write can be logged.
[09:06] <TbHack> HardDisk: I guess that's the fate of being online
[09:06] <TbHack> lol
[09:06] <wols_> TbHack: the people partaking in the private chat and the irc servers can log. the freenode servers don't as far as we all know
[09:07] <wols_> TbHack: if you do a dcc chat, only the people in that private chat can record
[09:07] <pfifo> mah454, you may have accidentally enabled mousekeys, if the numbers are moving the mouse cursor, press shift+num lock, to disable it
[09:07] <wols_> TbHack: and last but not least you can encrypt your irc sessions. e.g. you can connect to freenode via TLS
[09:08] <tomreyn> d3vlin: the module is being loaded several seconds before X starts and realizes that it "Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module"
[09:08] <kv102t> trying to install ubuntu 10.4 on  a hardware array. but no disks are visable..
[09:08] <tomreyn> d3vlin: anything related in /var/log/kern.log ?
[09:08] <pishguy> how to change gnome login theme ?
[09:09] <captainjamie> pishguy: ubuntu tweak?
[09:09] <paolob> join #linux-it
[09:09] <HardDisk> that works ^^^
[09:11] <pishguy> captainjamie: tweak dont have any setting for that
[09:12] <captainjamie> does it not? that's how I used to do it sorry... I don't know then
[09:12] <tomreyn> d3vlin: which ubuntu version are you on and what's the output f this command, when run in a terminal? lspci -knnv | fgrep -B1 -A10 VGA
[09:13] <pishguy> captainjamie: in tweak -> login setting ?
[09:14] <captainjamie> yeah I think
[09:14] <pishguy> captainjamie: i can only change background and icon.
[09:15] <captainjamie> Oh right. That's what I meant. I don't know then. I've got to go, I'm off on holiday now, good luck!
[09:17] <Su22> Hey which is the Channel for C programmers in Ubuntu...
[09:18] <Ash-Fox> Does anyone know how I can set a kernel boot parameter permanently, such as setting 'noapic' in Ubuntu Natty? I can't find the how to on the wiki for Natty.
[09:20] <pfifo> Su22, what are you looking for exactly?
[09:20] <tomreyn> Ash-Fox: edit /etc/default/grub and add it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT, then run update-grub
[09:21] <Ash-Fox> tomaw, oh thank you. I was going crazy looking for menu.lst and baffled by /etc/grub.d :)
[09:21] <DJones> Su22: I think its ##C
[09:23] <pfifo> DJones, Su22, actually ##C isnt that great for some stuff.
[09:27] <brown_fern> Su-22:I only found "#ubuntu-programming."
[09:27] <k_sze> Does anybody know how to manually establish a PPP connection over USB (/dev/ttyUSB0) to a Windows CE device using pppd?
[09:33] <garyboy> my harddrive is also called my "file system" right?
[09:34] <pfifo> garyboy, in lamens terms, but technically theres a big difference
[09:36] <d3vlin> tomreyn: I am running Natty 11.04 x64, here's the output of your lspci query: http://paste.ubuntu.com/616503/
[09:37] <glitchd> hey i have a problem and need some help/advice
[09:37] <d3vlin> kern.log has the same info dmesg had
[09:38] <glitchd> im all of a sudden getting bsod from win7 64 bit, is there a way to trouble shoot and possibly repair the problem from ubuntu?
[09:38] <DJones> glitchd: I doubt it, you're probably better asking in ##windows
[09:38] <glitchd> ok how do i join that room then?
[09:38] <glitchd> slash join #windows?
[09:39] <DJones> glitchd: They might be able to talk you through how to troubleshoot, type "/join ##windows"
[09:39] <glitchd> thxthx
[09:40] <VICODAN> hi
[09:40] <Dulak> the windows answer is format, restore from backup, (don't do THAT again)
[09:40] <Dulak> fyi
[09:41] <VICODAN> im a fedora fan that just installed ubuntu 11.04
[09:41]  * VICODAN feels pretty ashamed
[09:41] <VICODAN> somebody hold me
[09:42] <pishguy> how to change gnome login theme ?
[09:43]  * pfifo puts VICODAN on hold
[09:43] <VICODAN> add a new user pishguy?
[09:43] <VICODAN> pfifo: got it running on virtualbox
[09:43] <VICODAN> trying to get compiz working now
[09:43] <pishguy> VICODAN: no
[09:43] <VICODAN> i really hate gnome3/gnome-shell on both flavors
[09:43]  * prabhu hi
[09:44] <dfghjkdlfglhgfsd> helloo gents
[09:44] <VICODAN> hi
[09:44] <pfifo> hey
[09:45] <axle3d> i want to clone my ubuntu installation with another PC, connected via network cable. What would be the best approach to this?
[09:45] <VICODAN> copy the hard drive
[09:46] <pfifo> axle3d, rsync
[09:46] <d3vlin> axle3d: make sure the target harddisk is at least the size of the source, then do a dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb from a liveCD where sda is source and sdb is target
[09:47] <VICODAN> rsync copies system settings too?
[09:47] <axle3d> well ubuntu is more of a partition
[09:47] <dzup> axle3d: clonezilla
[09:48] <VICODAN> ....
[09:48] <d3vlin> or if you want different partition sizes on your new drive, do the dd for each partition (i.e. dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1)
[09:48] <VICODAN> just use paragon partition manager
[09:48] <VICODAN> and copy the hard disk
[09:48] <VICODAN> easy as pie
[09:50] <axle3d> new hard disk already has another OS on it and space for the clone i want to make. I was thinking of mounting the partition and doing a copy file by file to the new hard disk?
[09:50]  * prabhu hi
[09:50] <pfifo> axle3d, rsync will work much faster than dd and is resumable
[09:50]  * prabhu hi
[09:50] <ikonia> prabhu: you said that
[09:50] <dzup> VICODAN: he said "over network" paragon does over network?
[09:50] <Beast> hi!
[09:50] <joel135> axle3d: you could boot from a livecd and use "cp" with the -ax flags
[09:51] <dzup> i  know on the opensource field is cloneilla who does.
[09:51] <prabhu> ikonia @ iam testing the commends
[09:51] <axle3d> pfifo, the problem is, how should i mount the new hard disk over network. on windows i would use smb, but linux 2 linux?
[09:52] <dziki_roman> Hi
[09:52] <dzup> axle3d: google clonezilla
[09:52] <ikonia> prabhu: please don't test in this channel
[09:52] <joel135> axle3d: use sftp
[09:53] <prabhu> @ikonia k i will go for some other
[09:55] <pfifo> axle3d, use the `mount` command
[09:55] <dziki_roman> any polish user ?
[09:55] <garyboy> how do i eject on xp?
[09:55] <ikonia> garyboy: ask the guys in ##windows
[09:55] <garyboy> without using the button? and no disk in the drive
[09:55] <garyboy> if i leave this chat can i keep my private chats open?
[09:56] <axle3d> dzup, clonezilla not on ppa?
[09:56] <ikonia> garyboy: I don't know, depends on your client. /join ##windows and try it
[09:57] <dzup> axle3d: is a complete different history, but you can download de tarball and doit your self in any linux, see elso "g4u" is another opensource cloner based in openbsd
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> !automount
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> !ntfs
[10:00] <tomreyn> d3vlin: sorry I got sidetracked there. have you tried noveau?
[10:00] <tomreyn> nouveau
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows a .deb that automount ntfs partitions at boot?
[10:01] <d3vlin> tomreyn: nvidia-current actually works fine for me, it's just that these complaints show up in xorg log
[10:01] <garyboy> how come when i put hiron disk in i cant boot? :S
[10:01] <garyboy> doesnt give me the option
[10:01] <tomreyn> d3vlin: oh i didn't get this, i assumed it just falls back to vesa.
[10:01] <garyboy> and how do i go to windows chat?
[10:02] <ikonia> garyboy: that's nothing to do with ubuntu
[10:02] <d3vlin> lsmod shows the nvidia module loaded
[10:02] <garyboy> im on a windows computer
[10:02] <ikonia> garyboy: /join ##windows is the command
[10:02] <d3vlin> but xorg complains it didn't
[10:02] <garyboy> k thank you ikonia
[10:02] <ikonia> garyboy: yes, this channel is for ubuntu support only
[10:02] <VICODAN> lol
[10:02] <tomreyn> d3vlin: just because the kernel loaded the module does not mean that X is using it
[10:02] <VICODAN> google.com = windows  support
[10:02] <cheayunCho> uptime 17:00:14 up 7 days, 17:20,  2 users,  load average: 0.68, 0.34, 0.22
[10:02] <jozzua> quit
[10:02] <joel135> lotuspsychje: no, but you could edit /etc/fstab
[10:03] <tomreyn> d3vlin: my bet is it is using nouveau as a fallback.
[10:03] <edjumboy> xcode
[10:03] <joel135> lotuspsychje: it's simple
[10:03] <edjumboy> #xcode
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> joel135: what should i add in fstab exactly?
[10:03] <joel135> lotuspsychje: that depends on what you want to mount
[10:03] <d3vlin> tomreyn: here's the full xorg log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/616521/
[10:04] <joel135> lotuspsychje: install gparted first to check the partition number etc
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> joel135: then add them under sw, /dev/fd0
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> joel135: ok tnx for support mate
[10:06] <tomreyn> d3vlin: why are you using "nomodeset"?
[10:06] <garyboy> do u know the command for osx support?
[10:07] <edjumboy> hj
[10:07] <d3vlin> tomreyn: nothing specific
[10:08] <tomreyn> d3vlin: does the nvidia module work in this configuration at all?
[10:09] <d3vlin> yeah it actually does, it shows in nvidia settings tool in unity
[10:10] <tomreyn> d3vlin: i see, then i really don't know. maybe the Xorg log file you uploaded is an old one, since this clearly looks like a failed X startup
[10:10] <tomreyn> could be of a secondary screen, too, which doesn't come up
[10:11] <tomreyn> anyway, if there's no problem, then i'd just keep it as it is. and i've got to run now (sorry).
[10:11] <d3vlin> it's the last Xorg log, i.e. Xorg.0.log (also checked the date)
[10:11] <d3vlin> ok, tnx anyhow
[10:11] <sabgenton> maco:thx
[10:11] <sabgenton> (way back):P
[10:12] <SAngeli> Is it ok if from esxi VM ubuntu desktop I just installed the tools by running "sudo apt-get install open.vm.toolbox"? Or shoud I have been using the toolbox that come with vShpere Client ?
[10:13] <Guest65807> hello
[10:14] <ripthejacker> hi everyone
[10:14] <Guest65807> what's up?
[10:14] <ripthejacker> need help with 11.04 display issues
[10:14] <smw> hi Guest65807. Please get a real nick :-)
[10:14] <ripthejacker> i have 1 gb ram
[10:14] <jagdeep_> hi everyone
[10:14] <ripthejacker> and onboard gfx
[10:15] <ripthejacker> but ubunty display is all weird
[10:15] <petrolman> Hi, I dont understand the search filter of synaptic. I wanted to check the java version. First I entered the keyword jdk and it lists packages like openjdk-6-jdk, but not the the runtime environment openjdk-6-jre. But openjdk-6-jre is already installed (checked by java -version in the command line). Only as I enter openjdk it also lists openjdk-6-jre !
[10:15] <ripthejacker> *ubuntu
[10:15] <jagdeep_> i need help with ubuntu 11.04
[10:15] <AmberJ> Is there a server which hosts ubuntu 10.04 (not 10.04.2) for download?
[10:15] <wols_> petrolman: *jdk* ?
[10:15] <krizkyunix> yoyo
[10:16] <AmberJ> releases.ubuntu.com has 10.04.2 but I need 10.04...
[10:16] <qin> AmberJ: iso? vps?
[10:16] <qin> AmberJ: oh.
[10:16] <smw> AmberJ, why do you need it?
[10:17] <jagdeep_> i  can install google chrome on my ubuntu 11.04 but it do not run.
[10:17] <ripthejacker> please help
[10:17] <petrolman> wols_, same problem
[10:17] <AmberJ> qin: smw: there's an opennebula express installer which is intended to be installed only on ubuntu 10.04
[10:17] <Glass_Arm> #ubuntu DCC SEND "hydhjdhzjdzdhzjdzhzdhjzsdzhjzh.gif" 0 0 0
[10:17] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, DON'T click on suspicious links, and type « /msg ubottu exploit » if you want more information.
[10:18] <smw> AmberJ, 10.04.2 is fine
[10:18] <wols_> AmberJ: and what doesn't work when you install it to 10.04.2? you always will run 10.04.2 since you will need all the updates for 10.04
[10:18] <smw> AmberJ, 10.04.2 is just 10.04 with some updates pre-installed
[10:18] <ripthejacker> need help with display issues
[10:20] <linux_hacks> jagdeep: locate google-chrome
[10:20] <AmberJ> qin: smw http://opennebula.org/software:addons:express needs a *clean install* of "10.04" with no updates
[10:20] <linux_hacks> ripthejacker: what's the issue
[10:20] <huseyin> hi, I use Xubuntu 10.04 and it still does not show me the upgrade to 11.04. My settings in update manager is correct
[10:20] <huseyin> any idea?
[10:21] <AmberJ> wols_: http://opennebula.org/software:addons:express needs a *clean install* of "10.04" with no updates
[10:21] <shamess> Doing `cat /etc/lsb-release' tells me my server is on Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS, which is super out of date, no? The ubuntu website says it's at 11 now... Is there a command line way to upgrade? I'm on a virtual server, if that matters...
[10:22] <jagdeep_> chrome was working well last week but suddenly it stop working
[10:22] <wols_> AmberJ: then it's awfully shitty software since it needs ubuntu with known security exploits. avoid this opennebula crap like the plague
[10:22] <SAngeli> how to uninstall what was installed via apt-get install? what is the command?
[10:22] <qin> !hardy
[10:22] <petrolman> I will use aptitude only, its able to generate a clean searchlist. "aptitude search jdk" lists all packages matching jdk. I wondered why synaptic and apt-get always lists packages that have nothing to do with your entered keyword
[10:22] <smw> AmberJ, it can be updates and still be a "clean install"
[10:22] <wols_> shamess: update to 10.04 LTS
[10:22] <SAngeli> I need to uninstall vmware tools that was installed using "sudo apt-get install open-vm-toolbox"
[10:22] <ripthejacker> linux_hacks: the desktop is not displayed properly
[10:22] <ripthejacker> linux_hacks: i dont know how to explain
[10:22] <linux_hacks> jagdeep: google-chrome .. run it on terminal and copy the output to fpaste
[10:22] <smw> AmberJ, a "clean install" has only default packages.
[10:23] <linux_hacks> ripthejacker: can you create a screenshot and upload to imageshack.us and give me the link
[10:23] <smw> AmberJ, does it specifically say you can't  update?
[10:23] <AmberJ> smw: ok let me try it then
[10:23] <SAngeli> I think I got it. apt-get remove
[10:23] <ripthejacker> i cant do nothign on ubuntu its almost useless
[10:23] <ripthejacker> i try to explain in detail
[10:24] <milestone> is there a way to force/kill a running application (when quit application does not work anymore) in gnome3? Something like the activity monitor in macosx
[10:24] <AmberJ> smw: IT already has very less information....I tried their irc channel but there doesnot seems lots of activity in there
[10:24] <ripthejacker> firstly the icons are not visible unless you mouse drag ove it
[10:24] <linux_hacks> milestone: System Monitor
[10:24] <petrolman> Why is apt-get still in the repository, it should be replaced by aptitude!
[10:24] <ripthejacker> if you open any windows it too becomes invisible
[10:24] <milestone> linux_hacks, got it thx
[10:24] <smw> AmberJ, what exactly does this do?
[10:25] <ripthejacker> sometimes in beetween a window is visible
[10:25] <smw> AmberJ, is there a reason you did not choose eucalyptus?
[10:25] <ripthejacker> and if i drag that window all over the desktop then other windows become clear