[13:47]  * yannick hi every Body :)
[13:48] <lamrz> hello ubuntu community, I'd like to ask if dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1 bs=4k conv=noerror    would be correct? I mean, can I use dd here for only a partition (not a full disk, as in /dev/sda) ?
[13:48] <skinux> As in, store all user applications on other partition or move Ubuntu entirely to bigger partition...
[13:48] <ikonia> skinux: there is a LOT more to applications than /usr
[13:48] <skinux> Then I guess I should move Ubuntu entirely.
[13:50] <skinux> Thing is, when I tried to copy this 30G partition to the other 60G partition, Ubuntu said it ran out of space on 60G.
[13:50] <spillere> isn't there a easy way to install a openVPN server on ubuntu to use my vps server to tunnel all my connection?
[13:51] <ikonia> ubuntu will not use 60GB
[13:51] <ikonia> that is your user data
[13:51] <cenotes> spillere: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/457103-install-and-configure-openvpn-server-on-linux
[13:51] <spillere> cenotes thanks!
[13:51] <cenotes> spillere: you are welcome :D
[13:53] <rost> hey
[13:53] <Eggs__> q
[13:53] <rost> i need support,help in this way
[13:54] <lamrz> hello ubuntu community, I'd like to ask if dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1 bs=4k conv=noerror    would be correct? I mean, can I use dd here for only a partition (not a full disk, as in /dev/sda) ?
[13:55] <ikonia> lamrz: you can output to a partition, sure
[13:55] <rost> i need 2 know how to set my L1 + L2 Cache  # from > write back to write through
[13:55] <JerryP> hi, i have had a weird issue on ubuntu 14.04 lately. I have been having issues with my cable internet, and when the internet goes out, so do my network adapters. I look in the top right and it says network disabled. I enable it and still cant get wifi. the only way to get it to work again is to reset the whole computer. any ideas?
[13:55] <Your_Dog> Hello guys, whats a proper way to reinstall drivers in ubuntu?
[13:55] <acalbaza_> anyone know of a tool to rename a directory to make it friendly for cifs?  i have a few dirs with illegal chars. that i want to create a cifs share for.
[13:56] <Your_Dog> I was using the additional drivers application, just in addition.
[13:56] <votheanh> live in vietnamese
[13:57] <ikonia> Your_Dog: ok, so why do you need to re-install ?
[13:57] <Pessimist> !vietnamese | votheanh
[13:57] <lamrz> ikonia, 'output to' means 'dd' a partition, I presume?
[13:57] <votheanh> ýe
[13:57] <votheanh> yes
[13:57] <ikonia> lamrz: it means output to
[13:57] <votheanh> from to vietnamese
[13:57] <Your_Dog> ikonia: I want to trigger a configuration, it only occurs during installation.
[13:57] <votheanh> working Destroy Hacking Team
[13:57] <ikonia> Your_Dog: which driver ? what configuration ?
[13:58] <ikonia> votheanh: #ubuntu (this channel) is not interested in that
[13:58] <votheanh> ubuntu 14.04LTS
[13:58] <Your_Dog> ikonia: Unfortunately, the Nvidia Graphics card, the one that chooses whether to install the 32bit libraries.
[13:58] <votheanh> Bot Net
[13:58] <votheanh> Sp
[13:58] <lamrz> ikonia, it'd be help me understand if you could tell me in a less terminological way
[13:59] <ikonia> Your_Dog: that isn't a question the additional drivers tool asks
[13:59] <ikonia> lamrz: OF= output to
[13:59] <ikonia> so you can output to a partition
[13:59] <lamrz> ....
[13:59] <Your_Dog> ikonia: well i just want to know whether its possible to reinstall a driver using that tool.
[14:00] <ikonia> Your_Dog: you shouldn't need to
[14:00] <ikonia> Your_Dog: why don't you tell us the real problem ?
[14:00] <votheanh> Hello all people
[14:00] <lamrz> can someone else answer me please?
[14:00] <votheanh> out
[14:00] <Your_Dog> ikonia: the problem relies on 32bit libraries, I can't run any gl program that is in 32bit.
[14:00] <ikonia> lamrz: what is not clear, the "of=" paramaeter is theoutput location /dev/sdb1 is a partition, so you can "output to a partition"
[14:00] <Pici> lamrz: you can output to a partition
[14:01] <ikonia> Your_Dog: that's still not telling us the problem
[14:01] <skinux> What all directories are there for user applications?
[14:02] <ikonia> skinux: it is spead out across the file system
[14:02] <skinux> I was afraid you'd say that.
[14:02] <skinux> Can Ubuntu be safely moved to another partition or do I need to install to the other partition?
[14:02] <gry> are applications not in /usr mostly with configs in /etc and logs in /var?
[14:03] <gry> I may be oversimplifying, I dunno
[14:03] <ikonia> gry: bottom line
[14:03] <lamrz> Pici what does "output to" mean, chrissakes? I asked my question in a non-tech language, saying if I could just erase simply one partition (/dev/sda1) and not the whole disk it is on (/dev/sda)...the answer is yes you can, or you cannot...dont see why you replied me 3 times with the same answer..if you mean I have to learn/know some basics, dont worry, I'm not bad at it, and yours is hardly a good way to mean it
[14:03] <ikonia> skinux: you can move ubuntu to new partitions, sure
[14:03] <Your_Dog> ikonia: Hmmh.. lets put it this way, I am running steam and everytime i open it, it complains about direct rendering disabled.
[14:03] <ikonia> Your_Dog: lets not put it this way - either tell me the problem clearly, or don't bother, I'm not interested in guessing games/hidden questions
[14:03] <Pici> lamrz: "output" isn't tech-speak in my opinion.  How about 'write to'
[14:03] <ikonia> infact, don't bother
[14:04] <Your_Dog> ikonia: I am telling you, I can't run any opengl programs that is in 32bit, that is the problem.
[14:04] <Your_Dog> ikonia: Actually nvm, thanks for helping.
[14:04] <skinux> What's strange is that after reinstalling Ubuntu onto same partition, Ubuntu said I only had 10G out of 30G available.
[14:04] <Pici> lamrz: the answer is yes. it will work the way you want.
[14:04] <lamrz> Pici thanks
[14:04] <ikonia> skinux: sounds like you're not formatting the partition so the old data is remaining
[14:04] <skinux> Ahh.
[14:05] <lamrz> one is certainly free -in the sense we have freedoms to do a lot of things- to display an attitude rather than an answer. the question is, what good is it to people seeking help?
[14:05] <ikonia> lamrz: I gave you a CLEAER answer
[14:05] <lamrz> ikonia, fair enough. thanks
[14:05] <gry> lamrz, please don't do that to channels. They are helping. You're offending the rest of the audience.
[14:06] <no_gravity> Good Afternoon! I have this usb printer connected to my machine. Printing worked fine some days ago. Today it doesnt. How do I get any information on the status of the printer or the printjob?
[14:06] <skinux> Why does Ubuntu say 60G disk is full when trying to copy contents of 30G to the 60G?
[14:06] <gry> probably it didn't finish copying then
[14:06] <ikonia> skinux: how are you checking how full it is
[14:06] <ikonia> skinux: how are you trying to copy
[14:06] <skinux> I didn't, copy failed saying it ran out of disk space.
[14:06] <Beldar> lamrz, If you do not understand blaming others will not help you learn
[14:06] <ikonia> skinux: why don't you just delete all the aprtitions you no longer need, and do a clean install
[14:07] <lamrz> gry, I dont mean it by no means for the channel or anyone, even not to the whole of the people I just talked to. I just found the recent difficulty to get an answer strange.
[14:07] <cenotes> gry: nope, he denounced himself ;)
[14:07] <ikonia> skinux: it sounds like you're making a real mess, and looking at your partition table, I can believe it is
[14:07] <skinux> Hmm.
[14:07] <skinux> How much space should Ubuntu take up out-of-the-box? 10G?
[14:07] <ikonia> skinux: much less than that
[14:08] <ikonia> default install is about 2.4gb i think.....
[14:08] <ikonia> maybe a little more
[14:08] <skinux> Hmm.
[14:08] <ikonia> certainly not 10gb
[14:08] <gry> lamrz: it looked like a language issue. People used a word, you didn't understand it, they reworded when they saw the difficulty.
[14:08] <skinux> Is there a way to backup and restore installation of NetFlix Desktop?
[14:08] <ikonia> netflix is not available on linux
[14:08] <skinux> NetFlix Desktop Client makes Netflix work in LInux...I've been usingi t.
[14:09] <ikonia> ooh the unofficial wine thing
[14:09] <Pici> skinux: where did you get it?
[14:09] <ikonia> just re-install it
[14:10] <wed69> does anyone here know anything about linux wireless latencies?
[14:10] <skinux> Try this: http://www.howtogeek.com/130372/how-to-watch-netflix-on-ubuntu-with-the-netflix-desktop-app/
[14:10] <gry> ask the real question please wed69
[14:10] <ikonia> don't try that
[14:10] <lamrz> gry, yeah, it is settled now..sorry if I sounded too much, but I hope I could tell my point. I do appreciate and significantly benefit from the help I receive on these channels
[14:10] <skinux> ikonia: I would, but it can be tricky to get working
[14:10] <iptable> wed69, wireless what?
[14:10] <ikonia> skinux: right, because it's poor, so backing up that sort of thing and blindly restoring it are bad
[14:10] <gry> lamrz, I see. Likewise.
[14:11] <ikonia> skinux: you would be more wise to just re-install it and set it for your current non-messsed up install
[14:11] <iptable> wed69, wifi, bluetooth, nfc, another protocol?
[14:11] <skinux> Hmm.
[14:11] <Beldar> lamrz, This is free help, volunteers, your expectations are out of a personal need and selfish.
[14:11] <skinux> Maybe I should try mounting SDA12 and rsyncing instead of using cp to copy all the files.
[14:11] <ikonia> skinux: I strongly advise you against it
[14:12] <Beldar> we do not have to help anyone
[14:12] <skinux> Actually, it does sound like a completely fresh install would be better.
[14:12] <ikonia> skinux: I advise you to delete your dead partitions / space, partition your disk correctly, do a clean ubuntu install on formatted partitions and set your system up correctly
[14:12] <skinux> Only customizations I've done are Ubuntu, Ubuntu New, and Storage partitions
[14:13] <iptable> skinux, +1 on ikonia advise. I doubt you will get better/other advise
[14:13] <wed69> i have ubuntu 14.04 and an asus ac66u router. my router is about 100ft away from my machine. my latencies are 1-5ms. after about an hour i get super high latencies...
[14:13] <skinux> The other really small partitions were there when I bought machine.
[14:13] <ikonia> skinux: no, you've done a lot more, such ash the netflix desktop package, which is a PPA which pulls ina  lot of unofficial depdencies
[14:13] <iptable> wed69, did you test to confirm that happens about an hour after using ubuntu?
[14:13] <iptable> wed69, what is required to fix the issue? laptop restart, router restart or both?
[14:13] <Octavian95> Hello everybody! I use 12.04 LTS and i get a very strange error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7639072 somebody pls help the error keeps appearing every hour
[14:14] <skinux> So, are you saying using Netflix Desktop Client screws up my installation?
[14:14] <ikonia> skinux: I didn't say that at all
[14:14] <cenotes> wed69: sounds like a heat problem D:D blind giess though
[14:14] <skinux> Just checking
[14:14] <ikonia> skinux: personally, I certainly wouldn't use that package/PPA -but it's personal choice and up to you
[14:14] <skinux> Is there another way to install Netflix Desktop?
[14:15] <lamrz> Beldar, I dont want to occupy the channel with this. I just spoke about my tone, yet I dont see selfishness in asking things to be expressed differently.
[14:15] <ikonia> netflix is not available on linux
[14:15] <skinux> Not official player, no.
[14:15] <cenotes> who needs tv anyways :D
[14:15] <SchrodingersScat> skinux: this is a good litmus test of which companies respect you.
[14:16] <skinux> SchrodingerScat: What do you mean?
[14:16] <cenotes> have a nice one guys!
[14:16] <cenotes> exit
[14:17] <skinux> ikonia: Anyway, you're saying to ditch custom linux partitions and start with a fresh "standard" installation and go from there?
[14:17] <thaumiel> Hi good folk! I have a terrible problem. Suddenly today my Lubuntu password and keychain password seized working! Why's that... Annoying as I cannot for example install updates...
[14:17] <iptable> Octavian95, every hour?
[14:17] <ikonia> custom linux partitions ?
[14:17] <iptable> Octavian95, got automated updates enabled?
[14:17] <wed69> im able to reboot my machine and latencies go back to 1-5ms
[14:17] <wed69> dont have to reboot the router
[14:17] <ikonia> skinux: I'm saying get rid of all the partitions you don't need / partition mess you've created, and just install ubuntu into a nice clean formatted partition
[14:17] <Octavian95> i don't know if i got the updates enabled
[14:18] <iptable> wed69, and does the connection stay at 1-5ms after reboot for another hour or does it climb back sooner?
[14:18] <Octavian95> yes every hour or even faster
[14:18] <skinux> ikonia: Using the screenshot I posted, can you be specific as to which partitions you think need removed?
[14:18] <iptable> Octavian95, can you please find out if you enabled automatic updates?
[14:18] <wed69> iptable: it will be ok for about an hour sometimes more
[14:18] <wed69> iptable: then it jumps to 900ms
[14:18] <iptable> wed69, does this problem occur after an hour if computer is on but not used for that hour?
[14:18] <Octavian95> yes if you tell me how to do that :D i'm a ubuntu noob
[14:19] <iptable> wed69, also, what did you check latency against?
[14:19] <ikonia> skinux: "anyones you don't need"
[14:19] <wed69> iptable: the machine is constantly being used
[14:19] <iptable> Octavian95, well, at some point you were asked if you want to do that, and you answered Yes or No. Anyways, flashplayer-installer is failing. Try to run it manually from the terminal.
[14:19] <skinux> After re-installing Ubuntu to 60G, the only one I won't "need" will be the 30G partition it's currently installed onto.
[14:20] <wed69> iptable: i checked latency by having the machine ping the access point which is the first hop
[14:20] <iptable> wed69, how about if you stop using it constantly for an hour and tell me if latency happens when it was idle?
[14:20] <wed69> iptable: it also does it when its idle
[14:20] <iptable> wed69, check latency by pinging the gateway instead please.
[14:20] <skinux> Although, I did mess up with "Storage" partition, because it's supposed to have a format that Windows can read as well.
[14:20] <iptable> wed69, when was the last time you held an air duster against it?
[14:20] <Octavian95> and what should i type in the terminal? flashplayer-installer?
[14:20] <iptable> Octavian95, yes
[14:21] <wed69> iptable: latency is the same. the access point is on a gigabit network.
[14:21] <Octavian95> doesn't work it says: flashplayer-installer: command not found
[14:21] <wed69> iptable: i have a raspberry pi that is doing the same thing with raspbian
[14:21] <bobbybuntu> How do I disable hard drive polling?
[14:21] <makara> my 2cents: only reason to make a partition is for performance, for swap
[14:21] <makara> otnerwise its just unecessary complexity
[14:22] <makara> get a removable drive if you want to share files
[14:22] <iptable> wed69, I don't care what network the AP is on. test latency by pinging gateway instead. pinging AP means you trust AP to respond to pings in fast fashion
[14:22] <wed69> iptable: these machines are brand new
[14:22] <Beldar> thaumiel, That does not just stop working, it is something you have done, detail the issue, what leads up to this.
[14:22] <iptable> wed69, wait, what are we troubleshooting?
[14:22] <iptable> wed69, raspberry pi or a proper PC/laptop with ubuntu?
[14:22] <skinux> makara: Were your statements directed toward me?
[14:23] <wed69> iptable: both are doing it
[14:23] <makara> skinux: basically
[14:23] <wed69> iptable: the problem is to the first hop
[14:23] <wed69> iptable: rebooting fixes my latency evertime
[14:23] <iptable> makara, what about if I want to reinstall without loosing /home and all my data and copying for hours?
[14:23] <skinux> I can't get a portable hard drive and I don't have any USB drives big enough to use to shared space.
[14:23] <iptable> makara, there are reasons to partition drives
[14:23] <wed69> iptable: i dont think its ap related because if i connect another device to that ap it works fine
[14:24] <iptable> wed69, another device? is latency your only problem, or you actually see speed issues with browsing the network? like speedtest
[14:24] <makara> iptable: just saying they never convinced me
[14:24] <makara> gotta go
[14:24] <iptable> makara, "they" never convinced you?
[14:25] <wed69> iptable: high latency = speed issues
[14:25] <iptable> wed69, no, not exactly
[14:25] <makara> iptable: the reasons
[14:25] <makara> who can't get a portable drive? how'd you get a PC in the 1st place
[14:25] <makara> anyway
[14:25] <iptable> makara, that's your opinion, but obviously you don't work with servers.
[14:25] <iptable> makara, some dont' want a portable drive
[14:25] <iptable> anyways
[14:26] <iptable> wed69, my latency is 0.699ms to the AP, ubuntu 14.04. This laptop has been on for over 7 hours and is on WiFi
[14:27] <wed69> iptable: so is it a driver issue?
[14:27] <iptable> wed69, speedtest.net shows 80MBps down/20MBps up.
[14:27] <skinux> ikonia: This should help you understand where partitions came from better. Red dots are partitions that were there when I bought this computer. http://imagebin.ca/v/1Pmzaj8Owfmk
[14:27] <wed69> iptable: i tried removing the network manager and installing wicd, that way its not hopping ap's and scanning all the time
[14:27] <iptable> wed69, now, if I introduce 200ms latency, I still get 80MBps down and 20MBps up on speedtest.net
[14:28] <iptable> so, let me repeat the question: does speedtest.net show you reduced speed compared to when you don't have latency problems or not?
[14:28] <iptable> wed69, no, it's not network manager. I use net manager and it works.
[14:29] <iptable> wed69, my raspberry pi never had issues with wifi either. runs for 10 hours on weekends with kids streaming music on to to TV and movies. wifi perfect.
[14:29] <iptable> wed69, it points me to issue with AP not liking something... btw, your "other devices" such as mobile phones will usually disconnect if they see issues and reconnect, so you get network restart.
[14:29] <wed69> iptable: my pi is using a 7 port powered usb hub with a dlink dw 131 wifi adapter
[14:29] <iptable> wed69, and also test this: does shutting down network and starting again on laptop/PC help or you need a full reboot
[14:30] <iptable> wed69, my pi is using the cheapest wifi adapter I found, plugged straight into it
[14:30] <wed69> iptable: i tried that and it was pulling to much power from the pi. ended up using a powered hub
[14:30] <wed69> iptable: restarting my network connect fixes it
[14:31] <iptable> wed69, either 1. you are using a power input that is not providing enough power for the pi, or 2. your dongle is sh1t
[14:31] <iptable> a $5 dongle works
[14:31] <michaelveytsel> Hi All - Basic question: what is the best way to explore and learn about Linux from within just the terminal as a beginner? For example, is there a command to list all available commands, and to sort them by regularity of use, and to list verbose descriptions of those commands?
[14:31] <joli_> so good!
[14:31] <wed69> iptable: dongle is good. hub is good. maybe its ap related
[14:31] <iptable> wed69, so it looks like your other devices are probably not well either, just probably self-rotate the connection when it goes wrong (phones/tablets do that, especially ihpone and andoird)
[14:31] <Flolila> hello i cant seem to disable ipv6 - tried to configure sysctl.conf but those connections are still there
[14:31] <iptable> wed69, looks like your access point is broken
[14:32] <iptable> wed69, test with another access point
[14:32] <wed69> iptable: ive tested with another ap of the same model
[14:32] <wed69> iptable: dont have another model to try with
[14:32] <iptable> wed69, for the pi, you can give it a power adapter that can provide 2A, as opposed to 0.5A (500mA) and it will have enough power to work with wifi without the hub needed
[14:32] <wed69> iptable: one other thing i suspect is distance
[14:32] <iptable> wed69, distance in metres please
[14:33] <Octavian95> anyone find something about my problem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7639072/
[14:33] <OerHeks> !ipv6 | Flolila
[14:33] <iptable> Octavian95, why did you install flashplayer-installer in the first place?
[14:33] <iptable> Octavian95, you can replace is with another flas module in software centre, do that
[14:34] <Octavian95> i didn't install it
[14:34] <Flolila> hm i already tried the tips that are pointed out there
[14:34] <iptable> Octavian95, ok, it got auto-installed for one reason or another. go to software centre, remove, reinstall. or remove and install alternative
[14:34] <Flolila> im on a dorm-connection
[14:34] <iptable> wed69, what is the distance in metres?
[14:34] <wed69> iptable: 21-30 metres
[14:34] <iptable> wed69, also, testing with same model doesn't help, does it?
[14:35] <wed69> iptable: nope
[14:35] <iptable> wed69, 30 metres is quite far
[14:35] <iptable> wed69, tried being closer to it and seeing if problem persists?
[14:35] <iptable> wed69, so that's 2 things to try. 1. a different make and model (MAKE AND MODEL) and 2. be closer to it for 2 hours
[14:35] <skinux> Here's better annotation for Linux partitions, RED dot partitions were still there when I bought this machine. http://imagebin.ca/v/1Pn22mFK8YRm
[14:36] <wed69> iptable: the wierd thing is that it works fine for 1-2 hours with super low latency. then just spikes up to 900ms and stays there
[14:36] <wed69> iptable: if i reboot it goes back
[14:36] <skinux> I see if I reinstall to 60G partition, I can merge Windows and 30G partitions back together.
[14:36] <wed69> iptable: could there be something causing the router or dongle to disconnect due to signal
[14:37] <Octavian95> ok i found adobe flash plugin in software center i'm uninstalling it now
[14:37] <iptable> wed69, I would say an issue is with some internal timer on the access point
[14:38] <Octavian95> iptable: done uninstalling now what? should wait and see if the error comes up again?
[14:38] <iptable> wed69, hence the timing I was so curious about. Some hardware do happen to do weird stuff like that.
[14:38] <iptable> Octavian95, no, install again or find another flashplayer plugin (different one) in software centre and install that
[14:38] <wed69> iptable: maybe ill try flashing dd-wrt firmware on the ap
[14:38] <iptable> wed69, now THAT is a good idea, assuming your AP allows that.
[14:38] <wed69> iptable: i've had other issues in the past with that ap's firmware
[14:39] <iptable> wed69, and tell everyone not to turn on the following during the test:
[14:39] <wed69> iptable: it does... but i lose out on 802.11ac speeds
[14:39] <iptable> wed69, 1. bluetooth, 2. wireless phones, 3. microwave
[14:39] <iptable> wed69, well, you are not getting them now tbh, so...
[14:40] <McMido> well is there is any script to download youtube videos ??
[14:40] <iptable> wed69, that's what I had to do to my AP. was so bad and disconnecting, I had to ddwrt it
[14:40] <iptable> McMido, yes
[14:40] <wed69> iptable: thats not an option for me. this is a production environment. ill set the ap with a different ssid and pass
[14:40] <iptable> McMido, firefox plugins. look those up
[14:40] <wed69> iptable: have you ever used tomato firmware?
[14:40] <McMido> nth threw Terminal cuz i really hate to act with Gui :D
[14:40] <iptable> wed69, well, it's broken production, so fix it. besides, it's office env if it's wifi, not prod :P
[14:40] <OerHeks> skinux, install gdisk ( for gpt) and see if the partitions are the same as in gparted, i think gparted messed up
[14:41] <iptable> McMido, no
[14:41] <McMido> <iptable aight ty anyway
[14:41] <OerHeks> !info gdisk
[14:41] <wed69> iptable: lol yeah i tried explaining that to my boss... they refuse to run wires.
[14:41] <bcvery> !info youtube-dl | McMido
[14:41] <Octavian95> iptable: so immediatelly after installing it again the error appeared again! :( using an alternative flash plugin is not an option for me
[14:41] <Octavian95> this is frustrating
[14:42] <McMido> <ubottu thats nice :D ty
[14:42] <gassho> why dont i see hexchat 2.10.0 in synaptic
[14:42] <McMido> <bcvery Ty :)
[14:42] <Octavian95> :( i really need the adobe flash plugin and using another  alternative plugin is not an option
[14:42] <bcvery> McMido: np
[14:42] <iptable> wed69, servers on WiFi?
[14:43] <Rimminen> hello everyone, I'm having trouble installing php5-mcrypt with apt-get
[14:43] <iptable> Octavian95, as stated, you can get adobe flash plugin using another package. same plugin, another package, someone else packaged it and it might work for you.
[14:44] <Rimminen> The install itself goes through without error, but the module doesn't appear to be installed when I run php5 --modules
[14:44] <Octavian95> ok but im just curious what does that error mean?
[14:44] <joli_> install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
[14:44] <wed69> iptable: kinda. we are using the r'pi to control some production equipment and display uptimes. but they want to put out like 150 of these things in our facility
[14:44] <Octavian95> joli_: where i get that file and how do i install it?
[14:44] <iptable> Rimminen, you need to enable it
[14:45] <iptable> Rimminen, /etc/php... somewhere there you have modules enabled and available directories. enable the module by symlinking or copying the conf file
[14:45] <Rimminen> iptable: can you give me a link to a guide? I'm obviously not very good at this
[14:45] <Rimminen> okay
[14:45] <Rimminen> Thanks!
[14:45] <Flolila> how can i open sysctl.conf as root?
[14:45] <iptable> Rimminen, no probs
[14:45] <iptable> Flolila, sudo vi sysctl.conf
[14:45] <joli_> adobe.com
[14:45] <Flolila> thanks :)
[14:45] <ZX> dsa
[14:45] <iptable> Flolila, sudo less sysctl.conf
[14:46] <ZX> Hi
[14:46] <iptable> Flolila, gksudo gedit sysctl.conf
[14:46] <Flolila> what is the difference?
[14:46] <iptable> wed69, cables. definitely. or at least ethernet over power adapters (powerline)
[14:46] <Beldar> Flolila, You can disable it in  gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub     GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="ipv6.disable=1
[14:46] <iptable> Flolila, tools. vi is command line edit, less is display in command line, gedit is GUI edit tool
[14:47]  * iptable goes to doctors now
[14:47] <iptable> Octavian95, that the plugin installer couldn't download the plugin
[14:48] <Octavian95> ok i got that tar.gz file now how i install that?
[14:48] <joli_> tar -xvzf install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
[14:48] <Octavian95> double clicking it opens it with  archive manager
[14:49] <joli_> then read readme.txt
[14:52] <Flolila> does it matter where i insert the disable commands?
[14:53] <Beldar> Flolila, In what?
[14:53] <Flolila> sysctl.conf
[14:53] <joli_> sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[14:53] <Octavian95> joli_: ok i extracted the tar but i hardly understand the install instructions from the readme :( could you help me?
[14:53] <joli_> sudo cp -r usr/* /usr
[14:53] <Beldar> Flolila, At the end, but you might look at my message to you
[14:54] <Beldar> you can disable it from the kernel
[14:54] <Flolila> thanks i tried this but nothing happeend
[14:54] <joli_> open terminal
[14:54] <Beldar> Flolila, Did you reboot?
[14:54] <Flolila> no
[14:54] <Flolila> will do so now
[14:55] <Beldar> Flolila, IT is a kernel command you have top reboot if you have used my option
[14:55] <arshavin> arch user here,is anybody using mate-unstable with gtk3 support on ubuntu?
[14:56] <joli_> open terminal , sudo cp -r usr/* /usr && sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[14:56] <Beldar> no update-grub I suspect either sigh
[14:56] <joli_> That's all!
[14:57] <Beldar> joli_, preface the messages with the users nick
[14:57] <vzsaeon> morning :) thank you to all the brains in the chatroom coudlnt do it with out you ... im finally getting the hang of the distros and have a quick question regarding customization appearance..?
[14:57] <Beldar> vzsaeon, No fluffing please address the issue.
[14:58] <mm48> ciao
[14:58] <gassho> uh
[14:58] <gassho> fluffing?
[14:58] <gassho> that sounds pornographic
[14:58] <vzsaeon> i liked how kde had the customization of windows and such right there in the settings i was wondering how to do i make my ubuntu more customized with colors and themes through the terminal
[14:58] <mm48> !list
[14:58] <vzsaeon> lol
[14:59] <Beldar> gassho, you can interpret anyway you like, you are the one to mention that term.
[14:59] <Flolila> still there
[14:59] <Flolila> http://imgur.com/qvf5oNW
[14:59] <gassho> well it sounds terrible
[14:59] <arkin> Quick question, setting my timezone using dkpg-reconfigure (Europe/London) has set the wrong time 16:00 vs 17:00, how do i correct this?
[14:59] <Beldar> Flolila, Did you update grub
[15:00] <vzsaeon> sorry ..
[15:00] <Flolila> how?
[15:00] <mm48> help
[15:00] <toff> /quit
[15:00] <Beldar> Flolila, sudo update-grub you always do this when changing that script
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> arkin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Using_the_Command_Line_.28terminal.29
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> mm48: with what?
[15:00] <Beldar> Flolila, Than reboot
[15:01] <Flolila> Warnung: Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported.
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> Flolila: its a known bug, just ignore it
[15:01] <arkin> ActionParsnip: are you suggesting i use a ntp to manage the time?
[15:01] <Flolila> restart again?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> arkin: no, the link shows how you can set timezone...
[15:02] <arkin> ActionParsnip: i've set the timezone...
[15:03] <arkin> ActionParsnip: but its set the time incorrectly
[15:03] <Flolila> still having those ipv6s
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> arkin: then try ntp :)
[15:04] <Beldar> Flolila, You have not done what is needed
[15:04] <vzsaeon> sudo update-grub
[15:04] <Flolila> i did update grub
[15:05] <vzsaeon> my bad didnt mean to type that in
[15:05] <joli_> Good night !  I go to sleeping......
[15:05] <Beldar> Flolila, That modifies grub to have that command it now needs to be booted to have that command used.
[15:05] <Flolila> but i rebooted
[15:05] <Beldar> Flolila,Where ever you got the info to add that told you all this.
[15:06] <Beldar> Flolila, After updating grub?
[15:06] <OerHeks> Beldar, the ipv6 factoid i gave is not really clear on this
[15:06] <Beldar> OerHeks, I gave him a whole other method
[15:06] <OerHeks> !ipv6
[15:07] <Beldar> OerHeks, From grub is what I use
[15:08] <Flolila> pls help
[15:08] <Flolila> from the start
[15:08] <Flolila> im a total newb
[15:08] <Flolila> i want to disable ipv6
[15:08] <gry> why?
[15:09] <Flolila> i dont need it
[15:09] <manazir> hi
[15:09] <compdoc> Flolila, just have to add few lines to /etc/sysctl.conf
[15:09] <gassho> hi
[15:09] <thekkid> Is there a ppa or way to install intellij 13.1 into the application dash?
[15:09] <manazir> anyone who can help
[15:10] <manazir> me
[15:10] <manazir> i need support
[15:10] <Flolila> compdoc
 Flolila, You can disable it in  gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub     GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="ipv6.disable=1   than update grub and reboot
[15:10] <Flolila> what is the most easiest foolproof way to do soẞ
[15:10] <Flolila> ?
[15:10] <manazir> i need help partioning
[15:11] <bcvery> !details | manazir
[15:11] <compdoc> Flolila, use the second answer on this page:   http://askubuntu.com/questions/346126/how-to-disable-ipv6-on-ubuntu
[15:11] <compdoc> no need to mess with grub
[15:12] <Beldar> compdoc, That is not messing with grub and an opinion, DO NOT DISREGARD WORKING HELP.
[15:12] <wed69> iptable: i dont think ethernet of power line would work in this company. reliable wifi is probably the better fit, but i'm pretty sure they aren't going to get the reliability they were hoping for.
[15:12] <alfaceor> Hi everyone i need support with this issue http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2228263&p=13043373#post13043373
[15:12] <manazir> i need help partioning , i can try ubuntu and when i go into gparted it says my disk is full when it is clearly not
[15:13] <Flolila> those lines are already added in the sysctl
[15:13] <compdoc> how did they get there?
[15:14] <Beldar> IPv6 is off here with a simple grub mod compdoc
[15:15] <alfaceor> Any help please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2228263&p=13043373#post13043373
[15:16] <Flolila> compdoc i already added them
[15:17] <Flolila> but this didnt help
[15:17] <Flolila> then i came here
[15:17] <compdoc> further down that page is the grub entry
[15:18] <compdoc> the /etc/sysctl.conf has worked for me on several severs
[15:18] <compdoc> servers
[15:19] <Beldar> compdoc, I don't have a problem with any method that works, but disregarding one that does is not helping, and destrimental when a user is rather new and has no understanding.
[15:20] <Beldar> detrimental*
[15:20] <compdoc> Beldar, you dont have to whine about it
[15:21] <Beldar> compdoc, You are passively aggressively commenting rather than admiting that was a wrong move.
[15:21] <Beldar> come on
[15:22] <Beldar> compdoc, Not a whine I did nothing but correctly help this user and ask you to do the same without being stupid with opinions.
[15:23] <roubaozibudong> 晚上有人看比赛么？
[15:23] <roubaozibudong> 求陪聊
[15:23] <McMido> o_o
[15:24] <roubaozibudong> 求一起
[15:24] <Beldar> !cn | roubaozibudong
[15:25] <sqard> hy...nid help js installed Linux...can u pls giv da command run in oder to install xamp
[15:25] <holstein> sqard: you have ubuntu 14.04 installed?
[15:26] <holstein> sqard: you are asking about xampp ?
[15:26] <Drew_27> Gah.. Okay I think I'm doing this wrong, let me get a screenshot
[15:26] <sqard> i nid to in xamp on ubuntu
[15:27] <holstein> sqard: you mean, xampp?
[15:27] <sqard> ma bad,,,,ya i mean xampp
[15:27] <holstein> sqard: http://www.enqlu.com/2014/04/how-to-install-xampp-for-linux-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts-or-linux-mint-17.html https://www.apachefriends.org/index.html
[15:27] <roubaozibudong> 你们都是大傻逼
[15:27] <roubaozibudong> 啊哈哈哈哈哈
[15:27] <holstein> !info xampp
[15:28] <sqard> ubottu:can i install mysql
[15:28] <holstein> sqard: you can install what you like, and will need to follow what is needed by xampp
[15:29] <Eggs_> sqard: you could install the packages maunally which may be better if xampp is not in the repos
[15:29] <roubaozibudong> 猜猜我是谁
[15:29] <holstein> !mysql
[15:29] <roubaozibudong> 猜对给100
[15:29] <Beldar> roubaozibudong, English only channel
[15:29] <roubaozibudong> come on baby
[15:29] <sqard> eggs_:let me giv a try
[15:29] <Drew_27> Question. When I'm trying to install Dual Boot, and I'm trying to set up a boot DVD RW, should it look like this? http://i.imgur.com/eQqoFfJ.png
[15:29] <holstein> !cn | roubaozibudong
[15:30] <Drew_27> Anyone?? I don't even know what WUBI.exe is..
[15:30] <cfhowlett> Drew_27 do not wubi.  don't.  no longer supported.
[15:31] <holstein> Drew_27: no need to bother with wubi.. what is the question?
[15:31] <Drew_27> Oh.. Then why did it automatically install like that?? And where do I get the correct download?
[15:31] <holstein> !dualboot | Drew_27
[15:31] <Beldar> Drew_27, A install of ubuntu inside windows not supported is all.
[15:31] <Drew_27> I wasn't trying to
[15:31] <sydney> Ok,i have been looking into changing my splash screen in 12.04. I have these installed,from all the DE's i've tried,but my splashscreen is a gray background with a gear.http://s11.postimg.org/kosr5q78z/2014_06_13_112636_1600x900_scrot.png How do i fix? i would like to have the lubuntu one.
[15:31] <Drew_27> I was trying to set up dual boot and the ubuntu website gave me that :l
[15:31] <Drew_27> But thank you holstein
[15:31] <Drew_27> That link is what I needed
[15:31] <sydney> oops http://s11.postimg.org/kosr5q78z/2014_06_13_112636_1600x900_scrot.png
[15:32] <cfhowlett> Drew_27  reboot.  set your bios to boot the ubuntu USB.  start ubuntu.  install
[15:32] <sqard> holstein:tanx fo da link
[15:32] <Beldar> Drew_27, It is a matter of you understanding this stuff, any link giving you that woud have explained it's use.
[15:32] <Drew_27> I know that cfhowlett.
[15:32] <Beldar> would*
[15:32] <holstein> Drew_27: you wont setup dualboot from inside windows like that
[15:32] <Drew_27> I've booted ubuntu yesterday on accident by "installing it" then "dual booting it" only to find out today it was wubi
[15:32] <holstein> Drew_27: are you using a 14.04 iso?
[15:32] <Drew_27> I was
[15:33] <Drew_27> I don't know what I'm doing wrong, when I "burned to DVD" it gave me that
[15:33] <holstein> Drew_27: when you say "i was" what does that mean? you are *not* usikng 14.04?
[15:33] <Drew_27> Wrong image I s'ppose
[15:33] <Drew_27> Right now I'm on Windows
[15:33] <cfhowlett> Drew_27 the only way wubi would install is if you were running windows - so you were NOT dual booting.  sorry.
[15:33] <holstein> Drew_27: you should be using 14.04 iso's
[15:33] <Drew_27> cf, I dual booted, I was at the right menu
[15:33] <Drew_27> It was really messed up though
[15:34] <Drew_27> holstein, I got this right off the ubuntu site, the iso burned to dvd exactly like this: http://i.imgur.com/eQqoFfJ.png
[15:34] <Beldar> Drew_27, probably a 12.04 image last one to actually install from that image.
[15:34] <Drew_27> I didn't have a 12.04 image
[15:34] <Drew_27> @Beldar
[15:34] <Drew_27> The file I burned is called...
[15:34] <holstein> Drew_27: you want a 14.04 iso.. please confirm that it is, and if not, start over.. and get one, and refer to the dual boot link
[15:34] <cfhowlett> Drew_27 again: you're running windows.  don't run windows.  reboot.  set your computer to start Ubuntu NOT windows.
[15:34] <Drew_27> "ubuntu-gnome-14.04-desktop-i386.iso"
[15:34] <Beldar> Drew_27, THan you downloaded the 14.04 using wubi or lionked it to a 14.04 image
[15:34] <Drew_27> cfhowlett, I just boot from that and that works?
[15:35] <Drew_27> Beldar, that image burned that exactly
[15:35] <Drew_27> no idea why
[15:35] <cfhowlett> Drew_27 you'll get a live Ubuntu sessions.  from there you can choose to test or install ubuntu.
[15:35] <Drew_27> I know that much
[15:35] <Drew_27> I was on that before on accident, somehow, it was screwed up
[15:35] <Drew_27> I just need to make sure it's right
[15:35] <holstein> Drew_27: on what?
[15:35] <Beldar> Drew_27, The wubi install has not been in any image since 12.04, so what you say makes no sense is all, user error here. ;)
[15:36] <Drew_27> It wouldn't boot from my usb before so I burned it to a dvd just now and got that
[15:36] <Drew_27> Beldar, incorrect.
[15:36] <holstein> Drew_27: please use details.. you were on what and what happened? and what sceweed up how?
[15:36] <Drew_27> I literally just burned that to my NEW dvd, and got that
[15:36] <Drew_27> the file was this: ubuntu-gnome-14.04-desktop-i386.iso
[15:36] <Drew_27> And it burned that image.
[15:36] <Drew_27> Either way, if I can boot from the DVD like you're saying, I can manage that
[15:36] <cfhowlett> Drew_27 reboot!  tell your computer to boot the DVD first priority and you'll get ubuntu running
[15:36] <Beldar> Drew_27, Okay I guess you know carry on, not worth that hassle. ;)
[15:37] <Drew_27> Well, I mean it just did it in like 30 seconds @Beldar
[15:37] <Drew_27> about 2 minutes ago, not like I would know
[15:37] <Drew_27> but m'k
[15:37] <Drew_27> cya
[15:37] <Hardcheese> wtf.. "A problem occurred. Report?" No info about what's being sent and what the problem was.
[15:38] <Hardcheese> you work for hte NSA!
[15:38] <Hardcheese> no, but seriously (well, you DO work for the NSA), how do I know what's wrong?
[15:38] <Beldar> Hardcheese, NO swearing acronyms here please.
 wtf.. "A problem occurred. Report?" No info about what's being sent and what the problem was.
[15:39] <gry> i have same issue
[15:39] <gry> each time i log in after reboot i see an obscure dialog and it doesn't admit what the issue is
[15:40] <CrypticByte> Weird anyone know a suggestion why I have unity's launch bar set to automatically hide but anytime i install an app or close one down it takes a few minutes before it will unminimize the launch bar when i hover my mouse over it
[15:41] <wheatthin> gry, try checking your /var/logs  and/or running dmesg to see if you get any errors
[15:42] <wheatthin> CrypticByte, I'm unsure, but you might be able to tweak it in unity tweak
[15:42] <sydney> i want to try the spinfinity splash sreen,but after i install it,how do i enable it?
[15:42] <Beldar> CrypticByte, Right click the desktop and navigate to the panel adjustments and set the sensitivity higher
[15:43] <Beldar> CrypticByte you have to bump the right edge to trigger it.
[15:43] <Beldar> left* sorrty
[15:44] <CrypticByte> Yeah i been doing that but it would act like I am not and never open up hte menu after a few minutes I could do the exact same thing then poof it opens
[15:44] <CrypticByte> i changed the sensitivity we will see if that helps
[15:45] <Beldar> CrypticByte, Cool, preface with nicks if you want us to respond, it colors the post like you see this one.
[15:47] <gry> wheatthin, thanks, i will next time
[15:48] <Beldar> sydney, http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/?content=141055
[15:48] <Beldar> sydney, Actually disregard to old my mistake.
[15:49] <sydney> Beldar: what?
[15:49] <sydney> Beldar: how about gnome-splashscreen-manager?
[15:50] <Beldar> sydney, I answered your request, than realized it was using non available parts.
[15:50] <sydney> Beldar: oh :D
[15:51] <sydney> aparent there is no gnome-splashscreen-manager :(
[15:51] <Beldar> sydney, Helps to at least look, than ask me to explain, I tried to help that realized it was not help and apologized
[15:51] <Beldar> than*
[15:52] <sydney> Beldar: :D
[15:52] <sydney> Beldar: ok :D
[15:54] <Lrrr1> isn't there a torrent file for Ubuntu Server 14.04LTS?
[15:54] <cfhowlett> Lrrr1 of course.
[15:54] <Lrrr1> I seem to only find a link for the direct http download on Ubuntu sites
[15:54] <sydney> Beldar: i can download it in synaptic,but i dont know how to enable it.
[15:54] <bazhang> !torrents
[15:54] <Lrrr1> cfhowlett is there a link to that on Ubuntu site... where i work they block TPB and most torrent sites
[15:55] <Lrrr1> the http download is taking FOREVER
[15:55] <parv> hello,
[15:55] <xangua> Lrrr1: ubottu just told you
[15:55] <xangua> see avobe
[15:55] <parv> do anyone knows where to report bugs for ubuntu?
[15:56] <cfhowlett> !bug | Paradisee_
[15:56] <Lrrr1> oops thanks
[15:56] <Lrrr1> sorry lol
[15:56] <Lrrr1> got it now :-)
[15:56] <cfhowlett> !bug |  parv
[15:56] <sydney> i will be right back...
[16:01] <sydney> i installed spinfinity from synaptic,and rebooted,but nothing changed :(
[16:01] <holstein> sydney: what are you expecting? do you have driver support for what you are expecting?
[16:01] <fishscene> I just downloaded Ubuntu 14.04 (beta/alpha) and booted from it. It is asking me for a password. Does anyone know the password?
[16:02] <sydney> holstein: i think so,not sure. i want to change my splash screen from the gaer,to spinfinity
[16:02] <holstein> fishscene: should be blank.. and shouldnt be asking for it.. where did you get the iso? where are you being prompted?
[16:02] <Beldar> fishscene, wrong download it has been released and md5sum check any not acting normally
[16:02] <Lrrr1> fishscene it's LTS now
[16:02] <fishscene> WOOPS. Sorry. I meant 14.10. lol.
[16:02] <holstein> sydney: where are you getting "spinfinity"? gnome look?
[16:03] <sydney> holstein: synaptic
[16:03] <Beldar> !14.10 |fish
[16:03] <holstein> !14.10
[16:03] <Lrrr1> oh cant help you there... still on 12.04
[16:03] <cfhowlett> fishscene beta? alpha?  14.04 has been releases do you are looking in the wrong place
[16:03] <xangua> fishscene: try 'ubuntu' for anything else #ubuntu+1
[16:03] <Lrrr1> about to be on 14.04 for a FOG server tho
[16:03] <Beldar> fishscene, #ubuntu+1 is the correct channel, and md5sum check it.
[16:04] <fishscene> …. I'm sure the md5 sum will match what is on the Ubuntu website where I downloaded it from. But never hurts. Also, for those that missed it, I typo'd. I meant 14.10. And I am now in the +1 channel. Thanks!
[16:05] <sydney> holstein: i have a few splash screen from DEs. i installed Lubuntu-desktop yesterday,but it didnt change anythin.
[16:05] <sydney> but it shows that it is installed
[16:05] <MajorTom> hi all
[16:06] <Kvrmurthy> Hi
[16:06] <holstein> sydney: lubuntu-desktop is much more than a splash screen.. you can really do some damage trying to apply those *-desktop meta packages.. i suggest not taking those changes trivially
[16:06] <holstein> sydney: you would need to install what is needed, *then* apply the changes..
[16:07] <sydney> holstein: i know that it is more than a splash screen. ;)
[16:07] <sydney> holstein: how can i do dammage?
[16:08] <holstein> sydney: then, if literally all you are doing is installing pacakges, and rebooting. thats why nothing is changing.. you have to *apply* the changes in the configs you want
[16:08] <sydney> holstein: oh
[16:08] <holstein> sydney: you can do damage by installing *-desktop meta packages, as i said.. its not a way to casually change a splash screen.. those are *much* larger, as i said, and you said you know
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> sydney: are you only wanting to change the splash?
[16:09] <sydney> hosti didnt install it for the splash screen.I wanted the DE
[16:09] <holstein> sydney: http://askubuntu.com/questions/75755/how-to-change-the-lightdm-theme-greeter for example is a way to address theming
[16:10] <sydney> holstein: i didnt install it for the splash screen.I wanted the DE. :D
[16:10] <holstein> sydney: the "DE" is just lxde.. if you want lxde, install lxde.. if you want lubunt-desktop, install that.. but, this is different from a splash screen theme
[16:10] <holstein> sydney: do you have the DE? or no?
[16:10] <sydney> Yes,i do
[16:11] <sydney> i was just wondering why it didnt change my splash screen when i installed Lubuntu
[16:11] <cfhowlett> sydney DE is not SUPPOSED to change the splash screen.  different packages
[16:11] <Na3iL> hiya all
[16:11] <holstein> sydney: because "it", and by "it", im assuming you mean, installing lubuntu-desktop, is not intended to do so.. you can change whatever themes you like, though..
[16:12] <sydney> cfhowlett: Kubuntu-desktop did!!
[16:12] <sydney> now im stuck with an ugly gear ;p
[16:12] <Na3iL> anyone here knows how can i open a .dmp file on ubuntu ?
[16:13] <cfhowlett> sydney kubuntu-desktop is NOT the DE.  KDE is the DE.  you installed the desktop meta-package which DOES include greeter changes
[16:13] <crrgrd> ciao
[16:13] <cfhowlett> !flavors | sydney
[16:13] <holstein> sydney: you can change to what you like, friend.. this is a lot like how the process will be, depending on what you have, and what you want.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/75755/how-to-change-the-lightdm-theme-greeter
[16:13] <sydney> ok :)
[16:14] <Na3iL> guys anyone here knows how can i open files with extension dmp on ubuntu ?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Na3iL: what does the 'file' command say it is?
[16:14] <holstein> Na3iL: just open? or edit? or use in some way?
[16:14] <behrooz> hello when i want restart daemon lirc with this command : sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart , i have get error , this error
[16:14] <behrooz> behrooz@behrooz-Lenovo-G500:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart
[16:14] <behrooz> [sudo] password for behrooz:
[16:14] <behrooz> find: `/sys/class/rc/*/': No such file or directory
[16:14] <behrooz> soory
[16:15] <behrooz> sorry
[16:15] <Na3iL> ActionParsnip, dmp is a aproviation for dump , files on window$
[16:15] <imghost> Nail .dmp=dump file?
[16:15] <sydney> I dont want to change lightdm though,i want to change the splashscree. :P
[16:15] <Na3iL> I tryed with wine app but nothing appears
[16:15] <behrooz> this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/7639626/
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Na3iL: fine, what does file say it is....
[16:15] <Na3iL> yeah imghost
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> behrooz: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:15] <Na3iL> ActionParsnip, w8
[16:16] <imghost> Nail windows or linux based?
[16:16] <behrooz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7639636/
[16:16] <holstein> sydney: no.. you want to change the greeter to the lubuntu greeter.. from whatever you are on now .. assuming you installed ubuntu and then switched to kubuntu-desktop, and that applied, you are on the kubuntu greeter?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> behrooz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/204822/lirc-remote-control-daemon-doesnt-work
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> behrooz: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=101151
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> behrooz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2036393
[16:18] <sydney> holstein: LightDM has always been there!? Ive never seen a different greater.
[16:18] <sydney> greeter*
[16:18] <holstein> sydney: you stated you installed kde and it changed..
[16:18] <holstein> sydney: regardless, just confirm what you have, and what you want.. and a volunteer can help you
[16:18] <sydney> holstein: it changed the splashscreen. :D
[16:18] <sydney> Not the greeter
[16:18] <holstein> sydney: ok.. again, just say what you have and what you want, friend
[16:19] <holstein> sydney: im assuming youare not wanting to edit the theme or backgroung for lightdm, since that has been linked for you.. so what are you looking for?
[16:19] <sydney> I am in Lubuntu-desktop at the moment,and i would like to change my splashcreen.
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> sydney: what to?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> sydney: you should have asked this rather than adding random packages to your OS....
[16:20] <holstein> sydney: ok.. from what to what, friend?
[16:20] <sydney> from kde i think to Spinfinity,or if that doesnt work,lubuntu's splashscreen.
[16:20] <holstein> sydney: http://askubuntu.com/questions/449677/how-do-i-set-the-lightdm-wallpaper-in-ubuntu-14-04
[16:20] <sydney> I think KDE
[16:21] <sydney> 12.04
[16:21] <holstein> sydney: only you can confirm, friend
[16:21] <sydney> let me do some looking then... :P
[16:21] <sydney> ;)
[16:21] <holstein> sydney: the links above are of the config file.. those should be the same in 12.04, and you can look and confirm that
[16:21] <m1dnight_> heh, just read the tannenbaum - torvalds discussion
[16:21] <m1dnight_> I'd suspected Linus to be more harsh
[16:21] <cfhowlett> !ot|m1dnight_
[16:22] <m1dnight_> oh
[16:22] <m1dnight_> mkay
[16:22] <m1dnight_> :p sorry
[16:22] <Kvrmurthy> So we talk about mark only? Just kidding ;)
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> sydney: so you want the Kubuntu Plymouth splash screen on your OS, is that right?
[16:23] <Beldar> m1dnight_, They like a good argument there, just remove at least 20 IQ points. ;)
[16:23] <Kvrmurthy> Couple of days back i too read Linux is Obselete topic
[16:24] <sydney> I want to change the KDE splashscreen,that KDE installed,to spinfinity or lubuntu
[16:24] <m1dnight_> OT GUYS
[16:24] <m1dnight_> !!!
[16:24] <m1dnight_> :p
[16:24] <holstein> Kvrmurthy: please take advnatage of the #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss.. thanks
[16:24] <Beldar> Kvrmurthy, Tell it to #ubuntu-offtopic and the large hadron collider
[16:24] <m1dnight_> see you in OT channel Beldar ;p
[16:24] <bazhang> Beldar, please stop the running offtopic commentary
[16:25] <Beldar> no lroblem my mistake bazhang
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> sydney: so you have the KDE Plymouth bootsplash now, or is it what you want to have after the change?
[16:25] <Kvrmurthy> Okay guys just chill :)
[16:26] <sydney> i have the the KDE plymouth at the moment,and want to change it.
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> sydney: ok, to what?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> sydney: You can select one of the installed themes with:    sudo dpkg-reconfigure plymouth && sudo update-initramfs -u
[16:27] <sydney> ActionParsnip: spinfinity plymouth if possible.
[16:27] <Devme> help...my ubuntu not detecting my DVD...
[16:27] <Kvrmurthy> Your device is showing up?
[16:28] <Kvrmurthy> The DVD drive i mean
[16:29] <Devme> nothing is shown on computer too...im using older version of ubuntu and have to install lubuntu
[16:29] <Devme> lubuntu with my dvd..bcoz i am unable to do it with a cd
[16:29] <cfhowlett> Devme USB???
[16:30] <sydney> ActionParsnip: if that doesnt work,lubuntu plymouth
[16:30] <Kvrmurthy> Which version of ubuntu?
[16:30] <Devme> its showed boot error so i decided to choose other options...
[16:31] <Devme> Hoary Hedgehog...
[16:31] <cfhowlett> sydney read:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth
[16:32] <sydney> cfhowlett: i already look at that. ;)
[16:33] <sydney> Never mind,i will forget the whole idea.
[16:33] <cfhowlett> sydney http://askubuntu.com/questions/2007/how-do-i-change-the-plymouth-bootscreen
[16:33] <Devme> how to install lubuntu from USB using ubuntu Hoary hedgehog without boot Error???
[16:33] <genii> Hoary Hedgehog???
[16:33] <Devme> instructions please...
[16:33] <cfhowlett> Devme hoary is end of life and unsupported
[16:33] <genii> Devme: That release is many many years old now
[16:34] <sydney> thanks for your help!!
[16:34] <Devme> yes...hoary hedgehog...thats why i have to go for lubuntu 14.04
[16:34] <cfhowlett> Devme you are making ZERO sense
[16:34] <The0x539> what?
[16:34] <bazhang> Devme, there are no upgrades paths using hoary
[16:34] <The0x539> that does not make ANY sense
[16:34] <Devme> i have downloaded lubuntu...
[16:35] <genii> cfhowlett: I *think* they are on Hoary but want to make a Trusty USB from the iso
[16:35] <Devme> now i dont need to update but to change my os to lubuntu because i have a old pc.
[16:35] <holstein> !5.04
[16:36] <cfhowlett> genii sounds legit - but I think no USB creator.  so a DD command to make a bootable USB???
[16:36] <holstein> !install | Devme
[16:36] <Lrrr1> 5.04 that's when I started using Ubuntu
[16:36] <Lrrr1> lol
[16:36] <Lrrr1> I remember those days
[16:36] <holstein> Devme: you'll just make installable media from the lubuntu iso you downloaded, and boot and install
[16:36] <Lrrr1> they would send me a disc in the mail :-)
[16:36] <The0x539> ew, lubuntu ships with chromium
[16:36] <holstein> Devme: you can dd copy the iso to usb
[16:37] <genii> cfhowlett: I think the images are hybrid... if so that will work
[16:37] <genii> lunch, afk
[16:37] <JimmyNeutron> Could someone explain what this kernel panic mean? drm_kms_helper: panic occurred, switching back to text console
[16:37] <cfhowlett> genii holstein I don't know the command, but I think it's DD ...
[16:37] <Devme> sorry, dd copy means???
[16:38] <iscorpion> how can i install netbeans-8.0-linux.sh on 14.04 please help me
[16:38] <holstein> Devme: you can search.. dd copy the iso .. should be in the install link i shared earlier.. let the volunteers here know if you dont get it sorted from referring to it
[16:39] <fishscene> Devme: "dd" is a command in the terminal. Here's a generic manual, but not a tutorial: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/en/man1/dd.1.html
[16:40] <Lrrr1> yay my boss has finally given in and is letting me set up a Linux vm... lol
[16:40] <holstein> Devme: i use unetbootin to create bootable usb's
[16:40] <Lrrr1> he's so terrified of Linux
[16:41] <IdleOne> Lrrr1: chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[16:41] <iscorpion> ??
[16:43] <Devme> have to go with USB for booting...
[16:43] <iscorpion> ??
[16:44] <iscorpion> how to install .sh file?
[16:44] <hellyeah> hey
[16:45] <hellyeah> how can i chek the version of graphic card
[16:45] <bazhang> lspci hellyeah
[16:45] <Guest18657> Hello	my name	is Jeremy.
[16:46] <Guest18657> hello
[16:46] <iscorpion> no one?
[16:46] <markthomas> iscorpion, I'm not sure what you are asking
[16:47] <hellyeah> where is the version number 1:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108M [GeForce GT 425M] (rev a1)
[16:47] <iscorpion> i want to install netbeans8.sh
[16:47] <bazhang> GeForce GT 425M
[16:47] <markthomas> iscorpion, you do not need to "install" a .sh file, as it is likely a shell script.  Very this with cat or less, but you should just be able to run it.
[16:48] <markthomas> iscorpion examples include: "chmod u+x netbeans8.sh && ./netbeans.sh" or "bash netbeans8.sh"
[16:48] <lauri> Hello guys, it seems Apparmor is blocking access to /run/pcscd/pcscd.comm under Ubuntu 14.04 guest account...
[16:48] <markthomas> If you need root, then "sudo bash ./netbeans8.sh"
[16:48] <iscorpion> thanks i just need to change its permission rite?
[16:49] <markthomas> Yes, or pass it as an argument to bash.  If there's no shebang line at the beginning, the latter is probably better.
[16:49] <markthomas> i.e. "#!/bin/bash"
[16:49] <iscorpion> thanku got it :)
[16:49] <_1_sam777> hi
[16:50] <hellyeah> there is a bug in graphic
[16:50] <hellyeah> screen is frozen
[16:52] <CrypticByte> So with Mir is ubuntu going to soon force people to use that touch screen interface
[16:52] <hellyeah> it is like metro?
[16:52] <wheatthin> Touch screen ui is already implemented, are you forced to use it now?
[16:52] <_1_sam777> bye
[16:55] <genii> Devme: Apologies on lag, I am between eating lunch and at the computer right now. dd is a command that you can use to directly copy a file onto something else. So in this case if you have for instance a file called abcd.iso  and the USB stick you want to make is seen by Hoary as /dev/hdb or/dev/hdc or so  then you would do: sudo dd if=abcd.iso of=/dev/hdb   ...the USB name may be different. You can check what it is by doing: dmesg|tail  after plugging
[16:55] <genii> it in the first time
[16:55]  * genii goes back to nomming
[16:55] <surge> hey all
[16:55] <surge> every time i reboot /etc/resolv.conf gets overwritten
[16:56] <surge> is there a fix for this?
[16:56] <surge> sorry, centos user here...not familiar with the leetness of ubuntu
[16:56] <wheatthin> surge, are you using a none gui installation?
[16:56] <surge> yes
[16:56] <surge> server
[16:56] <wheatthin> surge, centos isn't covered here
[16:56] <laz0r> !backbox
[16:56] <surge> 12.04 LTS
[16:56] <wheatthin> ahh ok
[16:56] <surge> i know I'm just saying
[16:56] <wheatthin> surge, ok well network manager still controls the server aspect too
[16:56] <laz0r> Do anyone know if backbox have a irc channel ?
[16:57] <CrypticByte> I swear I love the ubuntu globalmenu but I just dont think I will ever like this ubuntu unity lens stuff
[16:57] <surge> hm...
[16:57] <laz0r> brb need to restart..
[17:00] <luckybunny> ugh... I was resizing my chrome window down (making it smaller) and it suddenly snapped itself to taking up the whole vertical length of the screen. No amount of trying to resize it is working now
[17:00] <smw> is there a way to bulk disable all unity extensions?
[17:01] <smw> This is the biggest thing pissing me off with unity right now. I am using it as my main WM for the first time and it is driving me nuts
[17:01] <smw> I want it to show applications and only applications.
[17:02] <wheatthin> smw, huh?
[17:02] <wheatthin> you wanna try unity tweak?
[17:03] <smw> wheatthin, that sounds promising.
[17:03] <wheatthin> But if you mean stuff like UI tweaking, then you'll look into ccsm
[17:03] <wheatthin> to tweak compiz to your liking
[17:03] <smw> wheatthin, no, I want the scopes gone
[17:03] <smw> wheatthin, like searching amazon and the like
[17:04] <wheatthin> ahh, disable lenses
[17:04] <smw> yes
[17:04] <smw> I want them all gone
[17:04] <wheatthin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/107701/how-to-disable-lenses-in-the-in-the-dash-menu
[17:05] <kostkon> smw, in 14.04 you can disable any scopes you like, just click on Filter
[17:05] <smw> kostkon, I do, and they keep coming back
[17:05] <charly_> Hi everybody
[17:05] <kostkon> smw, hmm, it should remember your choices
[17:05] <charly_> I need some help, new @ ubuntustudio
[17:06] <smw> kostkon, is there any way to bulk disable all of them permanently. It seems incapable of remembering
[17:06] <CrypticByte> Well I found out that KDE has a global app menu that sits in a top panel maybe with some tweaks I can get it to function near like ubuntu's global menu
[17:06] <TuxRescue> into what directory would you install a chroot system?
[17:06] <smw> kostkon, it seems to pick lenses (scopes?) based on what I type
[17:06] <smw> kostkon, and ignore the fact I keep telling it no
[17:07] <smw> wheatthin, how do I do it using the tweak tool?
[17:07] <kostkon> smw, you can always disable online searches in your privacy settings
[17:07] <wheatthin> I'm sure google has better information on the unity tweak tool
[17:07] <skinux> I need some help mounting my home directory from another installation (partition). It's encrypted by ecryptfs
[17:07] <smw> kostkon, where?
[17:08] <kostkon> smw, system settings -> privacy
[17:08] <smw> found it
[17:08] <smw> good start, but I want to disable everything :-)
[17:08] <bazhang> !info unity-tweak-tool | smw
[17:08] <smw> kostkon, thanks a ton :-)
[17:09] <kostkon> smw, np
[17:09] <smw> unity is still buggy as hell, but that was the biggest problem
[17:09] <charly_> Please I need help, just install ubuntustudio for the first time, and can go up on my screen resolution
[17:10] <wheatthin> I don't think ubuntu studio is supported anymore
[17:10] <charly_> really ? is 14.04 LTS version
[17:10] <wheatthin> however, if you have your graphics drivers installed, then dkms should be working to see your different resolutions available
[17:11] <charly_> don't know how to instal drivers, Macbookpro 13" thru Parallels
[17:11] <Beldar> charly_, It is supported and it has a channel #ubuntustudio
[17:11] <luckybunny> ah
[17:11] <Beldar> supported here as well
[17:11] <luckybunny> seems like my window snapping thing was a problem with chrome, not ubuntu
[17:11] <charly_> thanks Beldar
[17:12] <luckybunny> restarting chrome let me do my vertical resize I wanted
[17:12] <Beldar> no problem charlesburton
[17:12] <Beldar> charly_,  ^^^^^^^^^^^
[17:12] <Beldar> close
[17:13] <wheatthin> nice.. <-- was under the impression they stopped supported it, which is why libdvdcss2 wasn't in the repos
[17:13] <inqilab> hello
[17:14] <Beldar> wheatthin, You may be right, I am assuming it is supported and not considered a derivatives
[17:15] <wheatthin> they have a dvd installer for it.. so I'm guessing it gained it's support back or something
[17:19] <CrypticByte> is there a way to change how long a notification last on the screen
[17:25] <meek_geek> how do you do ?
[17:26] <Beldar> meek_geek, Excellent, do you have a support issue. ;)
[17:29] <meek_geek> Beldar, yep look i have low powered CPU 1 ghz dual core with lots of extra ram ... can I use it to optimize my PC?
[17:33] <Beldar> meek_geek, Not sure what you mean by optimize, is it a question will ubuntu run well on this computer?
[17:34] <wheatthin> depending on your graphics card processing power, you can range from a full bloated install to a slim down WM like xfce4
[17:34] <meek_geek> Beldar, no can i use extra RAM to speed up Ubuntu ?
[17:34] <holstein> meek_geek: no.. extra ram does what extra ram does
[17:34] <Beldar> meek_geek, More ram is good, depends on what is running, I always max the ram out.
[17:35] <wheatthin> meebeyx, ram will definitely help it be more stable.. as far as speeding up, you might look into preload or osmething
[17:35] <meek_geek> wheatthin, what ? Preload ?
[17:35] <holstein> meek_geek: there is no reason *not* to max out the ram in any system.. it is not a magic cure for making the machine "faster".. its ths ame machine with more ram
[17:35] <Beldar> meek_geek, If it is swapping and that is the slow than more ram will make that a better situation.
[17:36] <funtable> Easy to know, open in ubuntu : System Monitor and look your memory use
[17:36] <mm48> hello
[17:37] <funtable> if using 100% and more than 10% of swap. More memory will be good
[17:37] <mm48> !list
[17:37] <wheatthin> I have 422mb swapped but only 3.3gb of ram out of 10 used, so how does that help?
[17:37] <meek_geek> my ram use is 1 GB - 1.5 GB and 4.4 gb is free
[17:38] <Beldar> wheatthin, Sounds like you might change the swap top a lower number if you have not.
[17:38] <Beldar> to*
[17:38] <mm48> !bot
[17:38] <wheatthin> can you control the min/max swap?
[17:39] <Beldar> wheatthin, To some extent the amount when it starts to swap, is all I know.
[17:39] <Beldar> wheatthin, the swappiness
[17:40] <Beldar> I have a ssd does not even slow down when swapping
[17:40] <ani_> ultisa
[17:41] <charlesburton> wheatthin check this website https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq and look for the part about swappiness.  That's the parameter that tells the system when to use swap or not
[17:42] <charlesburton> if you want to force your system to vacate swap just run swapoff -a as root
[17:42] <charlesburton> it'll move everything that's in swap out of it and turn it off, then run swapon -a to turn it back on
[17:42] <Beldar> How does one kill a parted process  ran sudo parted /dev/sda and incorrectly closed
[17:43] <charlesburton> ps -ef | grep parted
[17:43] <causative> I have a problem, in 14.04 the "alt" key brings up a "type your command" box, but this is broken for emacs which uses alt for other things
[17:43] <charlesburton> kill <pid>
[17:43] <fishscene> killall -9 parted
[17:44] <Beldar> charlesburton, which is the pid, lol
[17:44] <Beldar> lol a\t myself
[17:45] <fishscene> That's what the "ps -ef | grep parted" command does. It grabs the PID of the process called "parted"
[17:45] <Beldar> heh sudo kilall parted worked
[17:46] <Beldar> killall*
[17:46] <Beldar> thanks
[17:47] <Glorfindel> I need some help opening a read only file to edit without changing ownership
[17:48] <charlesburton> just for clarification ps -ef | grep <process> name returns any processes that have that name.  It'll have a 6 columns, the first one is the pid or process id the second is the process parent.  Never kill the process parent if it's 1 or 0
[17:48] <wheatthin> hmm that doc doesn't explain how to limit it after installation.. I have 10gb of swap space already.. and 10gb of ram
[17:48] <charlesburton> you mean resize swap?
[17:48] <charlesburton> or limit how it gets used?
[17:49] <wheatthin> limit how it gets used
[17:49] <Beldar> charlesburton, Thanks it is rare I would run a sudo check like that E.g. parted
[17:49] <charlesburton> the part where it says to edit the /etc/sysctrl.conf file is what will persist through a reboot
[17:49] <Beldar> Glorfindel, Helps if you tell the channel the file.
[17:50] <Glorfindel> hang on a sec
[17:50] <charlesburton> so the part where it runs sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=10
[17:50] <charlesburton> that will change it while the system is running
[17:50] <charlesburton> gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf will make it persist through a reboot
[17:50] <Glorfindel> it is /etc/ircd/ircd.conf
[17:52] <Beldar> Glorfindel, This an added conf I do not see it in my 14.04
[17:52] <Glorfindel> its for an irc server
[17:52] <Glorfindel> I also have 12.10 BTW
[17:53] <Beldar> Glorfindel, If it is okay to modify while running you would sudo if in the cli like vim to it or gksudo gedit path to file
[17:53] <Beldar> Glorfindel, 12.10 is eol, this what you re working on?
[17:54] <Glorfindel> eol?
[17:54] <Beldar> !eol
[17:54] <Glorfindel> !eol
[17:54] <Beldar> !12.10
[17:54] <Glorfindel> ok, yes that is what I have
[17:54] <Beldar> Glorfindel, You want a lts probably 12.04 or 14.04
[17:55] <Glorfindel> yeah, its upgrading right now
[17:55] <Beldar> Glorfindel, cool 13.04 is eol so keep going up.
[17:56] <Khrome> Can anyone here help me with a grub2  gpt vs mbr issue?
[17:56] <Beldar> 13.10 is eol in july
[17:56] <Glorfindel> ok
[17:56] <Glorfindel> will do
[17:56] <Beldar> Khrome, give us a outline of the issue and what you want and end goals.
[17:56] <Glorfindel> so the command is gksudo gedit /ect/ircd/ircd.cfg?
[17:57] <Beldar> Glorfindel, spell etc right and yes
[17:57] <Beldar> ;)
[17:58] <Khrome> I have a system with let's say 6 drives on it.   enumeration is beyond me, but here's the crux.   1 drive I have a working Windows 7 install on, and I really need to preserve that.  On a separate disk, I have a new 14.04 ubuntu (studio) installation
[17:58] <Glorfindel> :D ok
[17:58] <Glorfindel> I thought it was ect for the longest time so I am trying to get it right
[17:58] <Khrome> and I have grub2 installed and finally working, but I can't get the parameters correct to boot the windows system from drub2
[17:58] <Beldar> Khrome, All msdos now?
[17:58] <holstein> Khrome: i have, in the past, just unplugged drives during install
[17:59] <Beldar> no raid?
[17:59] <Khrome> well, that's the part I'm struggling with.   I haven't done disk diagnostics on linux in a while, but from Windows Disk Manager, all drives LOOK like gpt drives
[17:59] <holstein> Khrome: should be as easy as, installing grub somehwere.. but, you dont have to.. you can select the bios to boot the drive you choose..
[17:59] <Khrome> but the ubuntu install asked where I wanted to install grub2, and thought it puts that in the MBR
[17:59] <Beldar> Khrome, Can you in ubuntu run sudo parted -l and pastebin it?
[17:59] <holstein> Khrome: could be as simple as https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair or just running sudo update-grub
[17:59] <Khrome> Right... I can use my bios to point to different drives, which is how I know both systems are functional
[18:00] <holstein> !grub | Khrome
[18:00] <holstein> Khrome: you can refer to that, to see where you want to put grub, and what might fit your needs
[18:00] <Khrome> but the bios is a little buggy, and always wants to boot the drive that has ubuntu on it (that's why I but ubuntu and grub there, so I can always just let it boot however, and redir3ect with grubs)
[18:00] <holstein> Khrome: you wont fix a "buggy" bios with grub
[18:01] <Khrome> holstein:  I can go into the bios and select HD boot order, but sometimes it doesn't persist.  IT wants to boot this other drive (where I have now installed Ubuntu)
[18:01] <Khrome> and I did that specifically so I could run a boot loader and choose to boot windows if I want
[18:01] <holstein> Khrome: i have, in the past, just chose which i want from the popup menu in the bios
[18:01] <Khrome> that way I don't have to muck with the bios each time, or go into bios to select what drive to boot from
[18:02] <holstein> Khrome: i consider "mucking about in the bios" a way to address what you are trying to do
[18:02] <holstein> Khrome: otherwise, just refer to the links above, and see what fits your needs..
[18:02] <Khrome> Beldar:  One sec.  I'll get the parted output
[18:03] <Beldar> Khrome, Cool, all of what holstein says is true as well.
[18:03] <Khrome> $ more parted.out
[18:03] <Khrome> Model: ATA Samsung SSD 840 (scsi)
[18:03] <Khrome> Disk /dev/sda: 250GB
[18:03] <Khrome> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
[18:03] <Khrome> Partition Table: msdos
[18:03] <Khrome> Number  Start   End    Size   Type     File system  Flags
[18:03] <unopaste> Khrome you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:04] <Beldar> !pastebin | Khrome
[18:04] <ccbn4> Hi, I'm having trouble with Samba and having to rebind with 'net ads join' after every reboot. I found a bug that sheds some light on it, but there's no fix. I was wondering if anyone might have some idea on how to fix this without waiting for an official bug fix. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1291951
[18:05] <Khrome> sorry,  I'm rusty.  Haven't used irc in ages
[18:05] <Beldar> no biggie Khrome
[18:05] <Khrome> so now I see that one disk is msdos the other is gpt
[18:06] <Beldar> Khrome, That is the crux of your issue
[18:06] <Khrome> yeah, I figured that.   This wasn't as visible on the windows side.    So which is 'better' ? msdos or gpt?  can I even revert to msdos with a gpt disk?
[18:07] <Beldar> Khrome, Might be some workaround, but I would use one or the other
[18:07] <holstein> Khrome: "better" is a matter of opinion and use case. there are facts that make one way preferrable for you or not
[18:07] <Beldar> Khrome, Both have their uses, depends on what you need
[18:07] <Khrome> The Vertex3 is my windows drive, so the ultimate question is, can I convert to gpt without ruining the bootblock?
[18:08] <Almano> hello. i have some issues with mine new ubuntu + kde-desktop. Music players freak out i can not use multimedia keys on my keybard to change volume it change only master volume but player volume is the samecan someone help me?
[18:08] <Khrome> This is a home system, so I don't think I have any needs that would lead me one direction or the other.
[18:08] <Beldar> Khrome, I hae remove gpt links, I will have to look for a convert to I doubt it is easily done.
[18:09] <Jordan_U> Khrome: Windows can't boot from a GPT drive via BIOS (GNU/Linux can).
[18:09] <Khrome> my Bios seems to recognize gpt, because if I look in the HD boot order "Fedora" and now "Ubuntu" are listed (I had fedora installed on the gpt disk previously).
[18:09] <bprompt> Almano:    music players "freak out" ?
[18:09] <holstein> Khrome: ask the maintainers of the OS, though, i wouldnt personally consider the benifits worth the hassle.. when i can just press a key at boot and select the drive i want to boot
[18:09] <Khrome> so it's nice to see what OS is loaded on a disk, from that perspective
[18:09] <Khrome> holstein: I see your point.
[18:10] <Jordan_U> Khrome: I think the more important difference between the installations is that your GNU/Linux installations are configured to boot via UEFI, and your Windows installation is configured to boot via BIOS.
[18:10] <Khrome> Jordan_U: I wondered about that
[18:10] <Beldar> Khrome, Rods books are the bomb I have the gpt to msdos, here appears to be the reverse, back it up first. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=62984
[18:10] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Khrome
[18:10] <Almano> yeah. its strange because master volume is changing ( i can see it on desktop) but volume of player do not change
[18:11] <bprompt> Almano:     I think the volume on the keyboard multimedia buttons are for master, I don't think they're for individual players per se
[18:12] <Almano> in kmix i can see that i  have 2 audio deices barts hdmi and included audio analog stereo
[18:12] <Almano> mby thats the problem
[18:13] <bprompt> Almano:     hmm I only have one, the audio analog entry
[18:14] <guideX> is ubuntu 12.10 upgradeable
[18:14] <daftykins> guideX: it'd be easier to reinstall afresh
[18:14] <guideX> I bet not..
[18:14] <guideX> damnit..
[18:14] <Almano> one is from mine radeon hd 6850 but its inactive. I am using included in motherboard
[18:14] <guideX> this jkeeps happening, my ubuntu's keep expiring
[18:14] <Khrome> Jordan_U:  I just found an article on msdn that says that 64bit Vista and Windows 7 can boot from GPT disks, on UEFI-based motherboards
[18:14] <guideX> I don't use it enough to update it all the time, it sucks you guys don't support older versions
[18:14] <Glorfindel> Yes you can upgrade 12.10
[18:14] <daftykins> guideX: pick 14.04 as LTS then you'll be fine for years :)
[18:14] <Almano> how can i set as main the analog stereo one?
[18:14] <Glorfindel> I am right now
[18:15] <daftykins> !eol | guideX
[18:15] <daftykins> guideX: nah, i'd say it sucks that users don't read up on support lengths prior to installing
[18:15] <guideX> ubottu: it happens too fast with ubuntu
[18:15] <daftykins> it's all about LTS.
[18:15] <Beldar> guideX, We are not you guys but volunteers.
[18:15] <bprompt> guideX:    why not grab 12.04?   is lts
[18:15] <daftykins> guideX: see the link about upgrading. it's a bot.
[18:15] <Jordan_U> guideX: If you had been using 12.04 instead of 12.10 you'd still have a supported system.
[18:16] <guideX> ah ok.. I guess I keep grabbing the wrong version, somehow it should be more prominant that the version I keep choosing will be throw away in a short time
[18:16] <anishram> how create a user without password
[18:16] <Beldar> anishram, an admin user?
[18:16] <ratmav> i'm trying to forward traffic over port 80 to a kvm guest on a different port.
[18:16] <ratmav> i've tried this: http://serverfault.com/questions/170079/forwarding-ports-to-guests-in-libvirt-kvm. still not working. any suggestions?
[18:17] <Loshki> guideX: we have the same problem everyone else has. Too many versions makes it really difficult to give support...
[18:17] <Almano> how can i disable one of two audio device in mine pc?
[18:17] <guideX> the problem for me is, I don't use linux enough to know when updates are out.. so literally every time I load my ubuntu, it's expired, and I have to re-setup my environment all over again, and that's time consuming and hard
[18:17] <jvarcaba> Hey, anyone else gets kernel panic when trying to update 14.04 ?
[18:18] <guideX> I need to move to something which doesn't update so rapidly, or has a longer suipport lifetime
[18:18] <daftykins> guideX: that's true of every OS you don't use regularly.
[18:18] <guideX> they all expire, but ubuntu expires FAST
[18:18] <Beldar> guideX, Find the releases page and when eol and bookmark it
[18:18] <Jordan_U> guideX: Then stick to LTS releases of Ubuntu.
[18:18] <jvarcaba> Hey, anyone else gets kernel panic when trying to update 14.04 ?
[18:18] <daftykins> guideX: yes and it's called an LTS version, 12.04 and 14.04.
[18:19] <guideX> that's a sucky policy imo
[18:19] <daftykins> guideX: please stop whinging
[18:19] <Loshki> guideX: its unclear any other policy is workable in practice...
[18:19] <guideX> sorry, i'm just upset, I keep having to go tjhrough this and it takes eons to re-setup...
[18:20] <Almano> how can i change menu in ubuntu + kde-desktop?
[18:20] <daftykins> guideX: right, so what's more productive to get that task complete, repeating yourself over and over or getting an LTS installed ?
[18:20]  * Beldar loves externalized blame
[18:21] <bprompt> guideX:     keep in mind that the october version, october 10th month, thus the "xx.10" versions, have only 12month support, whiile the april, 4th month, "xx.04", have 5 years or so of support
[18:22] <guideX> for someone who's not familiar, that's a really sucky way to do things.. it wasn't obvious when I was installing it, the last three times
[18:22] <bprompt> guideX:     well, there's  first time for everything... so now you do know  :)
[18:23] <charlesburton> bprompt it's only even number *.04 releases that have 5 years of support
[18:23] <bprompt> ahhh ok... yeah, I know 13.04 expired in january, sounds right
[18:24] <Istalantar> Hello. When I start my computer and arrive at the login screen, my system has a weird choice of screen resolution (3 monitor), as soon as I log in its okay... my question now is, is there any way to make the system choose the right monitor and resolution at login screen?
[18:24] <bprompt> guideX:     so april just passed, you can grab a 14.04 iso :)
[18:25] <guideX> I can't, I'm stuck in this old unsupported crap again, because it took so long to figure how to get the older zend frameworks setup
[18:25] <guideX> before I was stuck in 8.04 or something, because it wouldn't upgrade either
[18:25] <guideX> keeps happening, pissing me off a lot
[18:25] <guideX> took forever just to get 12.10 working, now it's junk :<
[18:25] <charlesburton> I'd recommend you stick with LTS releases then,  you're the perfect candidate for them
[18:25] <Beldar> Istalantar, What is the right monitor, the one you have made right?
[18:26] <Jordan_U> guideX: You have two options 1: Folloe the EOL upgrade instructions or 2: Install 14.04 LTS from scratch. If you keep complaining unproductively then you will be removed from the channel.
[18:28] <Istalantar> Beldar: Well, yes, te one i want to have as main monitor
[18:28] <Beldar> Istalantar, Ah so I suspected, not sure the process or if there is even one.
[18:29] <Beldar> move them around so the one that works is correct
[18:29] <charlesburton> Istalantar
[18:29] <charlesburton> http://askubuntu.com/questions/360886/personalize-monitor-position-before-login
[18:29] <charlesburton> That's an XML file you can modify
[18:30] <Istalantar> Beldar: not possible, i have 2 dvi inputs and 1 hdmi .. and its always the hdmi which is choosen as main
[18:30] <Istalantar> charlesburton: thx, i'll have a look at it
[18:30] <Beldar> Istalantar, looks like charlesburton has the OCD link for yah
[18:31] <charlesburton> +
[18:31] <chrissso> hey guys, I have a problem with rights or something in ubuntu. I cant move files into trash from my /home partition. other partitions like /data etc do that without problem. It always says I have to delete them immidiatly.
[18:33] <Beldar> chrissso, you running in root
[18:33] <chrissso> Beldar: i belive so
[18:33] <Beldar> chrissso, This a server?
[18:33] <chrissso> Beldar: no
[18:33] <chrissso> Beldar: just regular ubuntu, one user
[18:34] <Beldar> chrissso, Not sure we are on the same page by running in root, but ubuntu is not run in root.
[18:34] <chrissso> Beldar: ok yes that I'm not on root permanently.
[18:34] <chrissso> Beldar: sorry
[18:35] <Beldar> chrissso, Waht does lsb_release -a show
[18:36] <chrissso> Beldar: i coppied that in terminal but it doesnt work. is that the excat spelling
[18:36] <Beldar> chrissso, if you are tring to put something from home in the trash in a root terminal or sudo that is the issue
[18:36] <Beldar> chrissso, lsb_release -a
[18:37] <chrissso> Beldar: it says no LSB mudoles available and than shows the version of ubuntu etc
[18:37] <daftykins> anything else?
[18:37] <Beldar> chrissso, show the whole output
[18:37] <daftykins> how about "cat /etc/issue"
[18:38] <Beldar> or cat /etc/issue as daftykins shows
[18:38] <chrissso> Beldar: http://justpaste.it/fuf0
[18:39] <chrissso> Beldar: I'm logged into as regular user. no root.  when I'm in nautilus (no sudo used) I cant move files to trash
[18:39] <Beldar> chrissso, Cool, so you understand no root or sudo for putting home things to trash? a right click and to trash would be easier
[18:39] <chrissso> Beldar: It says: Unable to create trashing info file: Permission denied
[18:40] <Beldar> chrissso, Hmm, not sure than, maybe others can find the answer.
[18:41] <chrissso> hey guys, I have a problem with rights or something in ubuntu. I cant move files into trash from my /home partition. other partitions like /data etc do that without problem. It always says I have to delete them immidiatly.
[18:42] <charlesburton> run a command like this in the terminal, replacing <username> with your username ls -ld /home/<username>/.local/share/Trash/
[18:42] <jackarg> Hi there, I'm trying to use prime to switch to nvidia in 14.04 and I get this error: Error: alternatives are not set up properly Error: nvidia mode can't be enabled           any help?
[18:42] <daftykins> jackarg: did you follow a guide?
[18:42] <jackarg> daftykins: for what?
[18:43] <jackarg> daftykins: for the error? I can't find one that I understand
[18:43] <daftykins> jackarg: to setup nvidia prime.
[18:43] <chrissso> charlesburton: command works but still no change with the deleting
[18:43] <jackarg> daftykins: Weirdly enough it was already there.
[18:43] <charlesburton> it's not a change
[18:43] <daftykins> jackarg: what specifically?
[18:43] <charlesburton> I need to see the output
[18:44] <charlesburton> sorry, should have specified
[18:44] <charlesburton> it'll show what the permissions are on your trash directory
[18:44] <jackarg> daftykins: it's the first time in ubuntu that it detects my driver. So I can use nvidia by selection that. The prime thing is just "nvidia x server settings", a gui that lets me switch between intel and nvidia
[18:45] <jackarg> and it has nvidia-settings config as well as app profiles
[18:45] <daftykins> jackarg: i think it requires a bit more setup than that - look up a prime guide and follow it for your version maybe.
[18:46] <daftykins> jackarg: obviously something is missing / misconfigured
[18:46] <jackarg> daftykins: any guide for 14.04 will work?
[18:46] <daftykins> jackarg: i have no way of knowing that.
[18:48] <Rimminen> I can't figure out how to enable mcrypt with PHP5 :/
[18:48] <jackarg> daftykins:  know a good guide?
[18:48] <daftykins> jackarg: i'd have linked you if i did
[18:48] <chrissso> charlesburton: I was looking for me trash folder. I have only one .Trash1000 folder and thats in my /data partition. I have the rights to delete and stuff on this folder
[18:48] <Rimminen> Asked about it earlier here, any ideas?
[18:48] <charlesburton> chrisso, if you past the output of that command somewhere so I can see it I might be able to figure out your problem
[18:48] <Rimminen> I have installed mcrypt with apt-get
[18:48] <charlesburton> ahhhh
[18:48] <charlesburton> there's your problem then
[18:48] <charlesburton> is /data on a different partition entirely?
[18:48] <Rimminen> And I have the mcrypt.ini file
[18:49] <Rimminen> and there is a [mcrypt] part in my php.ini file
[18:49] <charlesburton> if so, that's your problem
[18:49] <chrissso> charlesburton: /data is a different partition. its not in /home
[18:49] <charlesburton> you'll have to use .Trash on the same filesystem as your /home directory
[18:50] <charlesburton> it won't cross partitions
[18:50] <daftykins> Rimminen: first of all, spreading your question over several lines won't get help easily. second, try #ubuntu-server also
[18:51] <chrissso> charlesburton: I'm now in /home/chris/.local/share/Trash there are two folder "files" and "info". I cant excess any of these two
[18:52] <charlesburton> Ok
[18:52] <charlesburton> Replacing <username> with  your username run chown -R <username>:<username> /home/chris/.local/share
[18:52] <Orpheon> Hello ubuntu, is there an easy way to dualboot on a system already full of windows?
[18:53] <Orpheon> or do I have to manually resize everything with gparted?
[18:53] <bprompt> Orpheon:    you mean the windows partition is using the whole available hdd and you want to install ubuntu in that hdd?
[18:54] <Orpheon> bprompt, there are 4 partitions, windows and associated tools (recovery stuff)
[18:54] <genii> Orpheon: The most reliable way is to do the resizing. Some people use Wubi to install Ubuntu underneath of Windows but it's not really recommended
[18:55] <bprompt> Orpheon:     the ones the machine was originally shipped with?   the "recovery partition" from the vendor, right?
[18:55] <chrissso> charlesburton: It works now. I just changed the rights of the two folders in there
[18:55] <Orpheon> yes
[18:55] <charlesburton> chrissso:  Awesome!
[18:55] <jackarg> Ok I have another problem I'm getting this after trying to install something: dpkg: error processing package linux-firmware Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[18:56] <Orpheon> what does it mean if gparted shows in the resizing screen the same min and max values of a partition?
[18:56] <Orpheon> do I have to create an empty partition with 0 width after it?
[18:58] <daftykins> jackarg: please use paste.ubuntu.com to show full output rather than just part
[18:58] <bprompt> Orpheon:     well. .. as genii  already said, you'd need to move some things about... so.... I'd hose the "recovery partition", BECAUSE the recovery partition usually has some mapping to a code run from the BIOS, so some key-combination triggers and access it the recovery partition... now... resizing or changing the system, will throw off that code/script and I think it no longer would work.... so,  you'd end up resizing moving parti
[18:59] <jackarg> Ok so this is what I get when trying to install a package (here, prime-indicator) can anyone please help me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7640271/
[18:59] <bprompt> Orpheon:    as far as the recovery bit.... when done, I'd "image" the windows partition, and then you can rely on that if anything happens to the windows system and need to redo
[19:00] <iman> Hi, I have ubuntu server and some times in a day my server gets slow, I am thinking someone is attacking my server, can u let me know how can I monitor server bandwidth or something like that to understand what happen for my server
[19:00] <daftykins> iman: #ubuntu-server
[19:01] <iman> I use nload but i just show me incoming and outgoing
[19:01] <iman> daftykins: ok
[19:01] <bprompt> jackarg:     does "sudo apt-get check"   say anything about errors?
[19:03] <jackarg> bprompt: nope
[19:03] <bprompt> jackarg:    so you get the error on running "sudo dpkg -i PACKAGE"  then?
[19:03] <andreas_> Hi. I have just installed Ubuntu 14.04 64bit at my new dell. However I have several important problems with Ubuntu I didn't have with Windows.
[19:03] <andreas_> The one is that my Dell's fan is constantly spinning
[19:04] <andreas_> and I have no idea how to fix that
[19:04] <genii> jackarg: Might try sudo apt-get purge linux-firmware     and then try to install prime-indicator again
[19:04] <jackarg> genii: but it isn't only with prime-indicator
[19:05] <andreas_> I also found that several people online had the same problem, but I couldn't find any good solution
[19:05] <andreas_> Can somebody help me?
[19:05] <jackarg> bprompt: I'm not sure what you mean. Should I just put in any app for "package" ?
[19:05] <genii> jackarg: "<jackarg> OK so this is what I get when trying to install a package (here, prime-indicator) can anyone please help me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7640271/ "
[19:05] <bprompt> jackarg:     hmm try as genii  said, "purge" the package first.it may just be some old configuration entry issue
[19:06] <Beldar> andreas_, Possible help, be patient, better spinning than not at this point.
[19:07] <jackarg> genii: bprompt sorry, I didn't mean it was specific to that package. I get the error everytime I use apt-get I think. Should I still purge it?
[19:07] <jackarg> purge linux-firmware?
[19:07] <daftykins> jackarg: sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-firmware
[19:08] <jackarg> what is linux-firmware anyway?
[19:08] <andreas_> Yeah, but is very noisy, and my battery now lasts for an hour and a half, while at whindows that was over 2 hours... Probably because of that
[19:08] <genii> jackarg: I would perhaps then purge it, then sudo apt-get install linux-firmware   ( since it might be a prerequisite to other things that currently are on hold to be installed)
[19:09] <genii> daftykins: I don't think you need the two dashes
[19:09] <daftykins> o rly
[19:09]  * daftykins reads up
[19:09] <jackarg> Ok no more errors! Now back to trying to fix nvidia prime
[19:14] <jackarg> IT ALL WORKS GUYS! Something happened and now I can switch from my nvidia to intel card and vice versa flawlessly with the prime-indicator applet!
[19:14] <jackarg> Thank you!
[19:17] <Lrrr1> is there a way to downgrade 14.04 to an older version
[19:17] <Lrrr1> like... let's say 12.04LTS
[19:18] <bprompt> Lrrr1:    don't think so
[19:18] <Lrrr1> bleh ok
[19:18] <Lrrr1> guess i'm doing a fresh install
[19:19] <pavlos> Lrrr1, backup your data first
[19:19] <bprompt> Lrrr1:     I'd just install 12.04 from, just don't forget to keep your $HOME folder, where all the settings are
[19:21] <Lrrr1> no need... I only just installed it.. the only thing I've done is set a static IP
[19:21] <Lrrr1> it'd just be as quick to do it with 12.04 and set it up
[19:21] <Lrrr1> i was about to install FOG but apparently it does not work on 14.04
[19:21] <Lrrr1> :-(
[19:22] <daftykins> whoops.
[19:24] <Lrrr1> i would have saved myself some time if i bothered to read the first lines in the wiki for FOG under Ubuntu 14.04
[19:24] <Lrrr1> DO NOT USE THIS VERSION OF LINUX, IT IS TOO NEW AND THERE ARE ISSUES WITH TFTP UPSTART AGAIN, WHEN TIME ALLOWS AND MAJOR ISSUES WITH FOG HAVE BEEN RESOLVED, WE WILL TACKLE FIXES FOR THE UBUNTU 14.04 OPERATING SYSTEM!
[19:24] <harry2> I'm having a problem with Ubuntu and other distros could someone suggest something? My graphics card is going crazy http://oi58.tinypic.com/mtxsp2.jpg
[19:24] <daftykins> Lrrr1: it's lovely hearing your scenario and all that, but i'm afraid this place is support only.
[19:24] <bprompt> Lrrr1:    to fix that just press caps-lock key =P
[19:25] <harry2> Someone please help me out..
[19:26] <bprompt> Lrrr1:  that's true for software support for any OS pretty much, it comes with the territory
[19:26] <daftykins> harry2: is that after ubuntu loads or is it bad from power on, over BIOS screens?
[19:27] <harry2> daftykins: As soon as the splashscreen finishes loading.. That's Fedora by the way but it's doing it with all of the linux distros
[19:27] <daftykins> harry2: so, nobody replying in fedora's channel huh? ;)
[19:28] <harry2> Nobody's replying in the linux channel either.. :(
[19:28] <daftykins> harry2: what graphics hardware and driver then?
[19:28] <bprompt> harry2:    do you happen to have an xorg.conf   file in /etc/X11 directory?
[19:28] <harry2> daftykins: I'm running a 3770k i7 & XFX 7870
[19:29] <harry2> I didn't even install it.. That's the LiveCD
[19:29] <harry2> I couldn't even get that far ;)
[19:29] <daftykins> so it's a new build?
[19:29] <daftykins> harry2: reduce your setup to the most basic, have only one screen connected and see what happens, a video would be nice too.
[19:29] <harry2> Well... Windows runs perfect..
[19:30] <harry2> It doesn't run with only one monitor either..
[19:30] <harry2> Literally.. The splashscreen loads perfectly.. Fedora flashes and then the screen turns to shit like that
[19:30] <daftykins> ok, keep the language family friendly thanks
[19:30] <harry2> I'm sorry
[19:30] <holstein> harry2: try the ubuntu live CD
[19:31] <daftykins> holstein: he already stated that's been done
[19:31] <harry2> I've tried all of the distros, it seems to be a generic problem I'm having with Linux
[19:31] <bprompt> harry2:    at the livecd ubuntu splash menu, I know it has a few  options for starting up..  I think is F6 and F7 and maybe F8   has a few  options.. I know F6 does.... see if turning some things off may bypass any driver issues
[19:31] <daftykins> harry2: what happens when it's booted to live session, then you try to hit a TTY? ctrl+alt+F1
[19:31] <holstein> harry2: its more a problem with teh grahpics hardware and linux support
[19:31] <holstein> harry2: have you tried vesa? you can force vesa with an xorg.conf
[19:32] <harry2> Well, Windows works fine with the graphics card..
[19:32] <holstein> harry2: windows is irrelevant.. you were promised windows support
[19:32] <holstein> harry2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209
[19:32] <harry2> As soon as the splashscreen is down that's it
[19:32] <daftykins> harry2: ok boot a live session with nomodeset, install, then afterwards install the nvidia proprietary driver... perhaps nouveau doesn't work with that card yet
[19:32] <harry2> But I can't install.. It dies as soon as the OS loads
[19:33] <holstein> !mini | harry2
[19:33] <daftykins> harry2: see the bit where i said boot with nomodeset?
[19:33] <daftykins> !nomodeset | harry2
[19:33] <daftykins> do it.
[19:33] <holstein> harry2: that will allow you to install a text mode, where you can then install a desktop and whatever graphics driver you need, that may provide support.. or, try vesa, or nomodeset
[19:34] <mkdmz> My icon is not showing up for my custom mimetype after following this advice:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingMimeTypes
[19:34] <mkdmz> Could someone help find out why?
[19:34] <holstein> mkdmz: any errors?
[19:34] <mkdmz> didn't see anything
[19:35] <harry2> Alright thank you, I'll reboot and try
[19:35] <mkdmz> holstein: Do you mean when I was updating?
[19:35] <holstein> mkdmz: i mean, while following the guide you linked
[19:36] <mkdmz> holstein: No errors at all.  I can click on my file and my app opens it, but I haven't been able to get the icon to be recognized.
[19:38] <mkdmz> holstein: It does ask me to place my icon.svg into the gnome folder, I am using LDXE, would this matter?
[19:38] <holstein> mkdmz: what is your goal?
[19:38] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hola Onia
[19:39] <mkdmz> holstein: Just want my documents to have their icon.  I can click on them ok, and they launch (that part of the tutorial worked)
[19:40] <holstein> mkdmz: i would use lxde specific documetation on setting icons..
[19:41] <mkdmz> holstein: To be a litter more clear, I want the icon representing my mimetype inside pcmanfm to show up.
[19:43] <BuddyBoy> Hello all
[19:43] <BuddyBoy> Anyone know about Hadoop? or whether that's a stupid question?
[19:44] <mkdmz> holstein: Thanks, I'll ask over at lxde
[19:44] <Beldar> BuddyBoy, Address the actual issue for help.
[19:44] <holstein> mkdmz: maybe just http://askubuntu.com/questions/166584/change-filetype-icon-pcmanfm-lxde
[19:47] <Dieud> bonjour
[19:47] <Dark_Viper> Hello, Does anyone know if you can install ubuntu on a chromebooks internal drive but install all programs on a external drive for it to load at start up?
[19:48] <mnt-cr4> hi everybody. I use ambiance theme in unity. after installing kde, I have a theme problem in unity: under the shutdown applet in panel, the texts are dark, they must be light because of the ambiance dark colour. what is the problem and how to fix that?
[19:48] <Beldar> Dark_Viper, An external is going to make that slower
[19:49] <Dark_Viper> yeah, but theres no space on the internal
[19:49] <Beldar> Dark_Viper, I would not bother myself with a chromebook for ubuntu.
[19:50] <Beldar> just a fairly weak platform is qll
[19:50] <Beldar> alL*
[19:50] <holstein> Beldar: its just hardware.. intel hardware
[19:50] <Dieud> hello
[19:50] <holstein> nothing about ubuntu is preventing that, Dark_Viper .. you'll just do the install, and run applications where you like.. though, i would just go with the defaults
[19:50] <Dark_Viper> but is not that bas for what i want it, maybe xubuntu?
[19:50] <Almano> Hello. how can i purify mine linux ubuntu from other desktop enviroments with possibility to keep kubuntu and unity?
[19:50] <holstein> Dark_Viper: xubuntu *is* ubuntu
[19:51] <holstein> !purekde
[19:51] <Almano> those commands do not work
[19:51] <holstein> Almano: "those" ?
[19:51] <Dark_Viper> yes but i assume balder meant that ubuntu is to heavy for the weak specs.
[19:52] <kingdong> I need to provide a way for a user to ONLY edit ip configuration (dhcp, static). What is the prefered way to achieve this ? A jailroot with custom ncurse gui ? a shell script built around wicd-curses ?
[19:52] <Dieud> I'm using ubuntu14.04, but I don't have access root, I have verified the password , it's correct
[19:52] <Almano> those sory : http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[19:52] <holstein> Dark_Viper: are they "weak" specs? i have intel hardware that is quite capable.. check your specs and see if they are up to your requirements
[19:53] <caitanya> dieud: ubuntu uses sudo
[19:53] <Almano> i want just to have plasma and unity desktop. nothing else
[19:53] <holstein> Almano: what is your goal? to get kubuntu and unity, i would either intall kubuntu and add unity, or install ubuntu and add kde..
[19:53] <Almano> i have ubuntu + kde
[19:53] <holstein> Almano: you will need the dependencies of both.. which are many
[19:53] <Dieud> I'm using that command but nothing
[19:53] <Dark_Viper> holstein, I use ubuntu 10.04 on an intel with 1 GB ram and its been more or less enough, a celeron on a chromebook should be a significant upgrade.
[19:53] <holstein> !10.04
[19:54] <Almano> but i have also lubuntu and xubuntu lxqt. I tried some of them and it apeared that unity and kde suit me most
[19:54] <Dark_Viper> holstein, sorry intel atom
[19:54] <Dark_Viper> Yes that why i need to change
[19:54] <holstein> Almano: you can remove what you like, but, its not like those are taking up resources in the background
[19:55] <Wnt> I installed the package gimp-plugin-registry to get the Resynthesizer plugin to Gimp, but I cannot find the "Smart remove selection" from the Enhance menu. Is it not provided by the gimp-plugin-registry package?
[19:55] <mnt-cr4> theme problem in unity in 1404. I use ambiance theme in unity. after installing kde, I have a theme problem in unity: under the shutdown applet in panel, the texts are dark, they must be light because of the ambiance dark colour. what is the problem and how to fix that?
[19:55] <Almano> but they r in menu ( lubuntu software center etc.)
[19:55] <Almano> and in logon screen i have may enviroments
[19:55] <holstein> Almano: sure.... remove what you like, or hide what you like
[19:55] <holstein> Almano: you can use the package manager of your choice
[19:55] <Almano> 2 x lxqt
[19:56] <Almano> 4 lubuntu
[19:56] <Almano> thats anoying
[19:56] <holstein> Almano: feel free and remove what you like..
[19:56] <holstein> !purge-ppa
[19:56] <holstein> Almano: ^ that can help purge the ones you added sources for that are not offically supported
[19:57] <Almano> hmmm i am newbie and thats seems to be difficult ;/
[19:58] <Almano> but ill try
[19:58] <mnt-cr4> unity --replace fixed that!
[20:00] <holstein> Almano: it can be.. at some point, i would consider in the future, experimenting with live CD's, and installations in virtualbox.. and maybe just take the path of least resistance, which may be a fresh install in your case
[20:00] <holstein> though, a few menu items and login sessions are not taking up any system resources, and just using nominal hard drive space
[20:01] <Almano> ill try to use that purge ppa
[20:02] <Almano> dominik@Master:~$ sudo ppa-purge ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
[20:02] <Almano> sudo: ppa-purge: command not found
[20:03] <daftykins> Almano: install it
[20:03] <Almano> ok
[20:04] <Almano> dominik@Master:~$ sudo ppa-purge ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
[20:04] <Almano> sudo: ppa-purge: command not found
[20:04] <Almano> in that way?
[20:04] <Almano> sorry sudo apt-get install  ppa-purge ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
[20:05] <holstein> Almano: you have to install ppa-purge to use it..
[20:05] <Almano> ok
[20:05] <holstein> Almano: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[20:05] <holstein> Almano: but, just use the package manager you are comfortable using to remove what you like
[20:05] <holstein> Almano: or, leave your running system alone, and use it as-is, and do better next time
[20:06] <masoudborbor> hi everybody. I got dark text on dark color ambiance unity theme. when I restart unity (--replace or restart) it get fixed but after logging out and in again, the problem is there again
[20:06] <holstein> addressing these minor annoyances that dont recover any system speed can break the system
[20:06] <holstein> masoudborbor: i would reset my unity congif and see what happens
[20:06] <masoudborbor> holstein, thanks. how to do that
[20:06] <holstein> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[20:07] <Almano> ok mby would u like to tell me how to edit list of avaliable desktop enviroments from login screen?
[20:07] <masoudborbor> tx
[20:07] <holstein> Almano: i just select the one i want.. there is no "list" correct? you just have an icon to select them?.. you dont see a long list from login
[20:08] <Almano> when i want to select different i have long list of avaliable de.
[20:08] <Almano> 2 diferent lxqt 4 different lubuntu 2 x xubuntu 1 unity 11 plasma
[20:08] <Almano> 1 plasma and 1 default
[20:08] <holstein> Almano: i understand, but there is not a long list listed.. and you want access to them
[20:09] <Almano> i just want to have only 2 available
[20:09] <holstein> Almano: i would remove what i dont want..
[20:10] <holstein> Almano: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81161/how-to-remove-session-entries-from-lightdm assuming you are using lightdm..
[20:10] <Almano> ok i am now lost.. sory english is not my native language and sometimes i am confused with some ways of thinking
[20:11] <masoudborbor> holstein, that didnt work :(
[20:11] <Almano> when i instaled xubuntu it changed to xubntu login screen
[20:11] <masoudborbor> holstein, better to say it did temporarily, but after logging in, it did not
[20:11] <holstein> masoudborbor: ok.. so, you know the user config is not likely the issue.. did you add PPA's?
[20:11] <Almano> and now i do not know why ho it is called
[20:11] <holstein> Almano: only you know, friend..
[20:12] <masoudborbor> holstein, I think I did
[20:12] <bprompt> Almano:     what are you trying to remove now?
[20:12] <masoudborbor> holstein, to add something common... let me remove them first
[20:12] <holstein> bprompt: has a list of kde and lxqt sessions
[20:12] <Almano> now just i want to shorten that list:)
[20:12] <holstein> Almano: but, you shouldnt..
[20:12] <Almano> why?
[20:12] <holstein> Almano: you want access to them,a nd the link i gave tells you how to do what you are asking
[20:13] <holstein> Almano: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81161/how-to-remove-session-entries-from-lightdm
[20:13] <Almano> ill take a look
[20:13] <holstein> Almano: please do.. it specificially addresses what you are asking for, which i personally suggest you not do
[20:13] <masoudborbor> holstein, I just removed them and reloaded apt-get
[20:14] <masoudborbor> now restart unity again?
[20:14] <Almano> but i have different look of login screen
[20:14] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hi
[20:14] <holstein> Almano: only you know what login screen you have, friend.. look and confirm, and ask the volunteers here about it.. or try the one i linked.. or reinstall. or use the system as-is
[20:15] <Almano> ok ill try
[20:16] <bprompt> Almano:    hmmm    you want to run the lxde window  manager?
[20:16] <masoudborbor> holstein, not again :(
[20:16] <holstein> masoudborbor: please use details
[20:17] <masoudborbor> holstein, what do u mean by details plz
[20:17] <holstein> masoudborbor: anything that can help a volunteer here assist you.. when you say "not again".. i dont know what you are talking about
[20:18] <masoudborbor> holstein, achso! the dark text problem on dark color unity panel
[20:18] <bprompt> Almano:     ... you want to... run lxde window manager but .... kde apps,   is that about right?
[20:18] <masoudborbor> holstein, u told me about the ppa ... I removed any new pa I added recently, restarted unity, it was fixed
[20:18] <masoudborbor> but when logged out.in again
[20:18] <masoudborbor> the problem was there
[20:18] <holstein> masoudborbor: but, you changed the theme to faciliate that change.. correct?
[20:19] <masoudborbor> holstein, the theme is ambiance, and it was before
[20:19] <Almano> no. I had changed by xubuntu  login screen.  I want to have only ubuntu with unity + kde
[20:20] <holstein> masoudborbor: what did you do to make these changes?
[20:21] <holstein> Almano: thin them out in the login screen as you wish..
[20:21] <masoudborbor> Almano, if you mean you want only kde in your login screen you can remove every other entries in login screen by going to /usr/share/xsessions/ and renaming every while file you want from *.desktop to x.desktop.backup
[20:22] <masoudborbor> holstein, I just went to software and updates and unchecked the ppa's
[20:22] <Almano> i am doin that:) we will  se if that will works:)
[20:22] <masoudborbor> holstein, but I did nothing to the theme
[20:22] <holstein> masoudborbor: unchecking ppa's doenst remove the 3rd party packages that you installed
[20:23] <holstein> !info ppa-purge
[20:23] <bprompt> Almano:     sounds to me you just needed "ubuntu" no xubuntu.... well..    I think you can change the "desktop manager" for the login in the kde settings
[20:23] <holstein> masoudborbor: im talking about, what you did in the first place to make the colors chage to what you are trying to "Fix" now
[20:23] <masoudborbor> aha ... I just installed kde beside unity
[20:23] <Almano> how i can do this?
[20:24] <masoudborbor> maybe some other little apps like grub-customizer
[20:24] <holstein> Almano: i would confirm what login manager you are using, and thin out the sessions as i please in it
[20:24] <Almano> so i  am using similar to taht one
[20:25] <Almano> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Yc1DpToCRYk/T5qgPMijKFI/AAAAAAAAALg/Z2MF6NUxmhc/s1600/2.jpg
[20:25] <masoudborbor> holstein, I just installed kde, and grub-customizer as I remember
[20:25] <holstein> Almano: have you tried this , friend? http://askubuntu.com/questions/81161/how-to-remove-session-entries-from-lightdm
[20:26] <Almano> i am doin this
[20:27] <masoudborbor> holstein, tank you for the time u share btw
[20:28] <mukbhu> hello everyone....
[20:29] <mukbhu> got a problem here.... i updated my 12.10 recently.. it seems that librsvg-2-2 had some problem... now i want to manually downgrade it... how is it done?
[20:30] <holstein> masoudborbor: no problem.. which i could be more help..
[20:31] <mukbhu> anybody....?? any info about manual downgrading?
[20:31] <genii> mukbhu: If it can be done at all... it would be by finding out the exact version you need to revert to, then doing similar to: sudo apt-get install librsvg-2-2=<exact-previous-version-here>    .... and then pinning it at that version
[20:31] <andreas_> Hi. I have just installed Ubuntu 14.04 64bit at my new dell. However I have several important problems with Ubuntu I didn't have with Windows.
[20:31] <genii> !pinning
[20:32] <andreas_> The one is that my Dell's fan is constantly spinning
[20:32] <andreas_> and I have no idea how to fix that
[20:32] <holstein> mukbhu: you'll want to go up to 14.04
[20:32] <andreas_> I also found that several people online had the same problem, but I couldn't find any good solution
[20:32] <andreas_> Can somebody help me?
[20:32] <holstein> mukbhu: even 13.04 is EOL now..
[20:32] <genii> mukbhu: Or, follow holstein's advice and go to next distribution available :)
[20:33] <holstein> andreas_: could be hardware related.. have you confirmed that its not failing/bad hardware? or a bios setting?
[20:33] <g0th> hi
[20:33] <mukbhu> yup i know... the thing is when i try to oupgrade ... the process crashes in between... so i am not able to upgrade
[20:33] <g0th> I don't have the panel/etc anymore in ubuntu
[20:33] <g0th> what package do I need to install for that
[20:33] <holstein> mukbhu: i suggest *not* upgrading, but a fresh install of 14.04
[20:33] <g0th> it is a normal ubuntu session/desktop
[20:33] <mukbhu> and i want to wait a bit before complete reinstallation
[20:33] <g0th> some package inconsistencies removed unity and ubuntu-desktop
[20:34] <holstein> mukbhu: might not be afforded any luxury of waiting.. and you should have backups regardless..
[20:34] <g0th> I reinstalled them afterwards but I guess something else (crucial) got removed?
[20:34] <mukbhu> @holstein what exactly would i need to do for reinstallation....? delete/destroy the partitions?
[20:34] <andreas_> Thanks a lot holstein :) Yes, as I said it works flawlessly when I am using windows
[20:35] <g0th> anyone?
[20:35] <g0th> compiz is running
[20:35] <g0th> I have some desktop (which I actually don't need)
[20:35] <g0th> but I have no panel
[20:35] <g0th> so I don't know how I can launch an xterm for example
[20:36] <g0th> the keyboard shortcut also doesn't work
[20:36] <histo> g0th: alt+f2
[20:36] <kostkon> g00fy, ctrl+alt+f1 to f6, f7 to come back
[20:36] <kostkon> oops
[20:36] <kostkon> g0th, ^^
[20:36] <holstein> mukbhu: i just put the live CD in and follow instructions, after testing the support
[20:36] <holstein> !install | mukbhu
[20:37] <g0th> histo: that doesn't work
[20:37] <g0th> kostkon: I am on ctrl alt f1
[20:37] <histo> g0th: then you can hit ctrl+alt+F1 through F6 to get to tty's you can hit ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to X
[20:37] <g0th> I am talking from a console not from x
[20:37] <g0th> yes
[20:37] <histo> g0th: Did you install the missing packages?
[20:37] <g0th> but on X I have the described problem
[20:38] <g0th> I installed unity and ubuntu-desktop
[20:38] <g0th> what else do I need?
[20:38] <g0th> for the unity panel/etc?
[20:38] <kostkon> g0th, did you reboot for example. try resetting unity/compiz
[20:38] <g0th> yes
[20:38] <g0th> I reboot
[20:38] <histo> g0th: ubuntu desktop will pull all the packages. Perhaps it's a config issue.
[20:38] <g0th> how do I reset unity?
[20:38] <mukbhu> @holstein @ubottu thanks
[20:38] <g0th> perhaps
[20:38] <g0th> how would I go about solving the config issue?
[20:39] <mukbhu> the only problem is backing up of data...
[20:39] <kostkon> g0th, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[20:39] <g0th> I can't follow that link sorry
[20:39] <g0th> no browser, no copy paste
[20:39] <g0th> annoying
[20:39] <g0th> I could use a text browser but I still can't copy and paste
[20:40] <g0th> also text browsers are hard to read nowadays that everything is made for big screens/etc
[20:40] <histo> g0th: try sudo apt-get install dconf    then dconf reset -f /org/compiz
[20:40] <g0th> what does that do?
[20:40] <g0th> compiz is fine btw
[20:40] <g0th> compiz is running perfectly
[20:40] <g0th> I even have my hotkeys
[20:40] <g0th> just no window decorations
[20:41] <g0th> hmm maybe it is a compiz issue but I never touched the compiz package
[20:41] <histo> g0th: resets unity
[20:41] <g0th> and compiz is running + I can move windows with the alt key
[20:41] <g0th> how do I reset unity?
[20:41] <g0th> I think it is not even running
[20:41] <histo> g0th: move what windows?
[20:42] <kostkon> g0th, try the cmd that histo gave you
[20:42] <g0th> that's for compiz?
[20:42] <histo> g0th: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17610/how-do-i-reset-my-unity-configuration
[20:42] <g0th> I can't open links :(
[20:42] <kostkon> g0th, unity is a compiz plugin. after giving that command, give: setsid unity and then try going back to the desktop
[20:43] <g0th> sigh
[20:43] <g0th> will I lose all my settings?
[20:43] <kostkon> g0th, no
[20:43] <g0th> ah ok
[20:43] <kostkon> g0th, if you mean compiz settings, then probably yes
[20:44] <g0th> AAARG
[20:44] <g0th> I had like 100 settings
[20:44] <g0th> that's why I asked
[20:44] <g0th> anywa
[20:44] <g0th> nothing happened
[20:44] <histo> g0th: do you have proprietary video card?
[20:44] <kostkon> g0th, give: setsid unity
[20:44] <histo> modules/
[20:44] <Xano> Can someone tell me *why* a major OS update tries to overwrite third party configuration files and throws all kinds of errors when I want to keep the existing ones? What is the reason Ubuntu cares about Apache and PHP so much?
[20:45] <g0th> sigh, did I just erase my whole compiz setup for nothing?
[20:45] <g0th> anyway
[20:45] <g0th> yes I have nvidia
[20:45] <histo> Xano: it doesn't overwrite anything it asks if you want to keep your existing configs etc..
[20:46] <module000> Xano: it's just doing what tha package script tells it to. add your (for example) php additions or overrides in php.d and you won't have these problems. it's all in the man pages...
[20:46] <g0th> that gives me a black screen
[20:46] <g0th> I just want to know
[20:47] <g0th> how do I get the usual unity panels?
[20:47] <g0th> what package and what program?
[20:47] <cuddylier> Anyone know a command to check if my server is getting spammed with connections?
[20:47] <g0th> unity I assume?
[20:47] <module000> g0th: create a new user and snag their unity settings if you want the defaults
[20:47] <g0th> module000: I can just erase them
[20:47] <histo> g0th: yes
[20:47] <g0th> that would be the same
[20:48] <g0th> I don't want to erase them
[20:48] <g0th> I took a fair amount of time to create them
[20:48] <g0th> it's just a package issue
[20:48] <g0th> all I did was remove some packages
[20:48] <g0th> and later I installed them again
[20:48] <g0th> maybe missing some
[20:48] <histo> g0th: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[20:48] <g0th> I can't open links
[20:49] <kostkon> g0th, try again with sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[20:49] <g0th> if I start unity it gives an error btw:
[20:49] <g0th> FBO is incomplete
[20:50] <histo> g0th: then how are you moving windows etc..?
[20:50] <g0th> I can create and open folders
[20:50] <module000> g0th: squash that message by disabling 'Framebuffer Objects' in your opengl plugin for compiz. or take your customizations, stash them, and then let the defaults generate, then replace your customizations again
[20:51] <g0th> module000: ... I can't start anything because I don't have my panel and alt + f2 is not working
[20:51] <Xano> histo, module000 I just wonder why an OS bothers with third party software, or worse, fails when I choose one of the options it offers.
[20:51] <g0th> I think it is an ubuntu-session issue
[20:51] <module000> g0th: use another TTY
[20:51] <g0th> somehow nothing is loaded
[20:51] <g0th> how does that help?
[20:51] <g0th> I can't start the compiz-config on the console
[20:51] <g0th> anyway
[20:51] <g0th> that's not the issue
[20:52] <g0th> the issue is that unity/the panel are not here somehow
[20:52] <module000> g0th: edit the config files directly, the GUI just keeps you from knowing what you are doing specifically.
[20:52] <g0th> but it is not even the issue most likely
[20:52] <histo> Xano: What OS and third party software are you speaking of?  What is failing?
[20:52] <module000> Xano: no idea. the single person responsible is whoever is listed as the "maintainer" on the package in question.
[20:52] <g0th> also how do I  edit config files directly?
[20:52] <g0th> that's pretty hard for compiz
[20:53] <g0th> especially without a usable web browser
[20:53] <histo> g0th: How did you install nvidia drivers?
[20:53] <g0th> with a package
[20:53] <g0th> the nvidia drivers seem fine, I never changed them
[20:53] <g0th> and x is working great
[20:53] <Xano> histo, module000 13.10 to 14.04 upgrade and when I opted to keep the PHP and Apache config files, it told me errors had occurred and that the upgrade may have resulted in an unstable system. Being a software developer myself I find this strange and very disconcerting.
[20:53] <michael> michael
[20:53] <michael> hi
[20:54] <Guest95079> what is going
[20:54] <Guest95079> on_
[20:54] <histo> Xano: can you pastebin the particular errors?
[20:54] <g0th> ok setsid xterm works
[20:54] <g0th> so I have an xterm
[20:54] <g0th> I did unity --replace
[20:54] <g0th> which was executed
[20:54] <Guest95079> is Anyone a Bash programmer?
[20:54] <g0th> but still no panel
[20:55] <g0th> what package is responsible for unity's panel?
[20:55] <histo> g0th: I though unity --replace was deprecated?
[20:55] <g0th> so what do I do?
[20:55] <kostkon> g0th, unity --replace is for older versions of ubuntu
[20:55] <histo> g0th: Follow one of the many links that has been posted.
[20:55] <g0th> I have to start irssi again on x
[20:55] <Xano> histo, Unfortunately I'm already past that. I figured any error related to those config files could never be too bad seeing as I can easily reinstall both packages.
[20:55] <g0th> sec
[20:55] <module000> Xano: ooh, a distro upgrade. i thought you were just doing a generic update. the problem there is sometimes layout changes of common config files in releases. that's an irritating reality that doesn't exist in some other distros
[20:56] <nightray> could anyone help me with installing TeamSpeak 3? I got an error and I don't know what to do
[20:56] <module000> Guest95079: just ask your question to the channel
[20:56] <histo> Xano: ahh yeah, kind of hard for us to troubleshoot the errors. It also bothers me as upgrading is supported.  You can hunt around in your logs for upgrade manager logs.
[20:56] <g0th> I hate you guys
[20:56] <kostkon> g0th, what version of ubuntu are you on
[20:56] <g0th> all my compiz settings are gone
[20:56] <g0th> because of that command I entered
[20:57] <g0th> latest version
[20:57] <kostkon> g0th, is it working at least
[20:57] <g0th> no
[20:57] <g0th> nothing changed
[20:57] <g0th> as I thought
[20:57] <g0th> I expected that nothing changed
[20:57] <g0th> and I very much feared
[20:57] <g0th> that it would mess up my settings
[20:57] <g0th> so I asked specifically
[20:57] <g0th> you told me no
[20:57] <Guest95079> I Need to know how to apply Posix standarts to bash programming
[20:57] <g0th> I executed
[20:58] <g0th> and now all settings are gone :(
[20:58] <g0th> anyway
[20:58] <g0th> still no panel
[20:58] <unopaste> g0th you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[20:58] <Xano> module000, Sorry to have been clear earlier. Coming from other software projects I assumed the phrase "major version upgrade" meant the same thing. In my case what went wrong was that Ubuntu wanted to replace the existing files completely instead of analyzing the contents and only replacing specific directives. This feels like it's the OS doing the upgrade in a generic way rather than the packages themselves upgrading their own files proper
[20:58] <Xano> ly.
[20:58] <module000> Guest95079: that would involve knowing the Posix standards already
[20:58] <nightray> Could anyone assist me?
[20:58] <Xano> histo, ^^
[20:58] <guntbert> !goth take it easy on <enter> , don't scroll the channel so fast
[20:58] <Xano> module000, histo *sorry to have been *unclear*
[20:58] <module000> Xano: i know what you mean. I'm used to having any non-default configs changed to "myfile.rpmsave" during those types of upgrades, ubuntu/debian won't ask though..and will just nuke them
[20:59] <guntbert> goth take it easy on <enter> , don't scroll the channel so fast
[20:59] <Guest95079> can anyone assist me how to do so
[20:59] <g0th> well
[20:59] <g0th> I'm even more screwed now than I was before
[20:59] <g0th> thanks a lot
[20:59] <g0th> I even specifically asked about that beforehand
[20:59] <Guest95079> I am reading couple of posic documented guids
[20:59] <histo> Xano: It's kind of hard to support everyone's customizations to configs
[20:59] <Xano> module000, I am a fairly technical user so I understand the contents of the config files and how a diff view works, but this isn't really a user-friendly approach for non-techies, which worries me a bit.
[21:00] <guntbert> g0th: don't press <enter> so often, no one can read what you are saying
[21:00] <Xano> histo, Well, was this PHP upgrading itself as part of 14.04, or was this Ubuntu doing it?
[21:00] <g0th> how do I get my unity panel?
[21:00] <histo> Xano: what do you mean?
[21:00] <g0th> how do I get window decorations/etc?
[21:00] <g0th> what package do I need for that?
[21:00] <Xano> histo, Is the upgrade path part of Ubuntu, or do the packages themselves provide upgrade paths for 14.04?
[21:00] <histo> Xano: if a new version of php gets released with a new distro release then it's upgraded when you switch from an older version of the distro.
[21:01] <g0th> can someone give the link for the unity reset?
[21:01] <Xano> histo, Because I really wonder why the upgrade wanted to do a file replace rather than analyze the config directives and attempt to merge them
[21:01] <histo> Xano: maintainers submit packages for the next release of ubuntu. Those packages are then frozen at a certain point for testing prior to a major release.
[21:02] <histo> Xano: because the default configuration file may have changed dramatically between versions. Some stuff may have been deprecated etc...
[21:02] <g0th> anyone?
[21:02] <Xano> histo, Nah, the upgrade just wanted to change my error log paths and memory limits to the defaults. This was really simple stuff.
[21:02] <g0th> you got me into this mess
[21:02] <g0th> at least help me out of it
[21:03] <Xano> histo, I can understand if there were any serious merge conflicts
[21:03] <g0th> what part of the unity/compiz desktop is responsible for window decorations + panels?
[21:03] <guntbert> !patience | g0th
[21:03]  * nightray feels so ignored
[21:03] <masoudborbor> holstein, lol do u remember my problem with unity? I just made a temp solution for that: I added "unity --replace" to the startup!
[21:03]  * Xano throws nightray a cookie
[21:04]  * Glorfindel laughs his head off
[21:04] <histo> Xano: right... A dev or maintainer would have to right config migration scripts for every possible config etc.... to do it 'your way'
[21:04] <ikonia> nightray: you'll get help if you ask a question/provide info
[21:04] <nightray> Xano, thanks!
[21:04] <histo> Xano: and every config option
[21:04] <ikonia> nightray: rather than self pity /me commands
[21:04]  * masoudborbor help
[21:04] <nightray> ikonia, cuz it's not like I already did that upon entering this channel
[21:04] <masoudborbor> sorry
[21:04] <g0th> well,  I don't think patience will get me anywhere
[21:04] <masoudborbor> that was wrong typing
[21:04] <ikonia> nightray: you didn't
[21:04] <masoudborbor> bye all
[21:04] <g0th> in fact I seem to know the most about the issue
[21:05] <charlesburton> Didn't see your question nightray
[21:05] <g0th> so probably I will just get more screwed here
[21:05] <g0th> sigh
[21:05] <histo> g0th: your use of the enter key is quite annoying hold on.
 could anyone help me with installing TeamSpeak 3? I got an error and I don't know what to do
[21:05] <Pici> nightray: provide us with an actual error message and some details about your Ubuntu setup and we can help :_
[21:05] <g0th> histo: you erasing all my settings is more annoying believe me
[21:05] <charlesburton> What's the error?
[21:05] <ikonia> nightray: you've not told us the error
[21:05] <ikonia> nightray: we don't know if we can help until we see the error
[21:05] <nightray> charlesburton, oh.. hi there!
[21:05] <histo> g0th: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[21:05] <g0th> thanks
[21:05] <charlesburton> Hola
[21:05] <Xano> histo, I honestly come from a software project where we do that, yes. However, I know there were no real merge conflicts here (1LOC change with context intact), so I am curious as to how these two packages (PHP, Apache) ended up having the exact same problem.
[21:06] <Slart> nightray: dont make people interrogate you .. give detailed information.. "an error" isn't really any information.. it's just an invitiation to ask what the error was..
[21:07] <histo> Xano: I doubt that was the source of the errors for your upgrade. I assume something else was going on.
[21:08] <nightray> ikonia, charlesburton, Slart , Pici, everyone else, I went to the TS website, downloaded their script for ubuntu amd64, i run the script and I got this: "There was a problem opening the file “/home/nightray/Downloads…nt-linux_amd64-3.0.14.run”." and this "The file you opened has some invalid characters. If you continue editing this file you could corrupt this document.
[21:08] <nightray> You can also choose another character encoding and try again."
[21:08] <g0th> everything crashed
[21:08] <Slart> nightray: editing? how do you run that file?
[21:08] <g0th> and reseting compiz didn't help
[21:08] <nightray> and since I know next to nothing about linux I have no idea how to handle it
[21:08] <g0th> I now installed gnome-desktop
[21:09] <histo> Xano: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUpdateManager  log files there may help.
[21:09] <g0th> which is working
[21:09] <g0th> but I don't want it
[21:09] <g0th> how do I get my ubuntu-session stuff back?
[21:09] <g0th> with unity/etc
[21:09] <Raven67854> nightray, You have to mark it as an executable and then run it
[21:09] <Raven67854> otherwise it will open it in gedit
[21:09] <nightray> Slart, right click > properties > permissions > checkbox: allow execute as program and double click
[21:10] <ikonia> nightray: I have no idea where you got that file from
[21:10] <ikonia> nightray: however it didn't come from the team speak website
[21:10] <histo> g0th: there is an issue with your users configuration files for unity. Remove them and start unity.
[21:10] <ikonia> nightray: that is not the file name of any of the downloads on the teamspeak website