[05:12] <theTrav> aldin, I don't really want to re-install ubuntu for the moment
[05:12] <xtknight> maynards-girl, what did that command do?
[05:12] <theTrav> I'll probably end up getting kubuntu when the next release comes out
[05:12] <firefly2442> celophane: might try searching here too: http://distrowatch.com/
[05:12] <celophane> I just want to "mess around with it" (internet access, light word processing, etc.)
[05:12] <xtknight> think ubuntu feisty might be faster than an older distro (on an /older/ PC) or no?  it certainly seems faster on my newer PC.
[05:12] <trev_>  #wine
[05:12] <Chetwin> Can I have network manager remember my key without having to use the keyring in gnome?
[05:13] <trev_> sorry
[05:13] <xtknight> #winehq actually
[05:13] <maynards-girl> xtknight: this returned nothing "sudo lshw -class video | grep driver="
[05:13] <mjgxtc> tbuss: any tips on installing from the cd?  I tried the package manager but it keeps tring to go to the internet
[05:13] <Wiseguy> hey guys, does anyone know what is involved in getting the tv-out working on my older ati vid card? or if its even possible?
[05:13] <maynards-girl> xtknight: so then i ran "sudo lshw -class video"
[05:13] <celophane> Yeah...I've been there.  I have Ubuntu running on a newer PC and I love it....just wondered if I could get it to run half-way decent on this MAC.
[05:13] <xtknight> maynards-girl, oh yeah?  still nothing?
[05:13] <maynards-girl> xtknight: driver was not in that one
[05:13] <thomasWSU> in the menu layout I does delete the menu preferences that normally show from system does anyone know how to bring it back
[05:13] <xtknight> maynards-girl, ahh you're probably on VESA then
[05:14] <tjb13> hey guys, do the nightly builds have a graphical installer
[05:14] <xtknight> tjb13, yes
[05:14] <xtknight> daily-live
[05:14] <tjb13> and do they automatically setup your hardware
[05:14] <xtknight> yes
[05:14] <maynards-girl> xtknight: that good?
[05:14] <tjb13> daily-live?
[05:14] <tjb13> where can i get that
[05:14] <xtknight> http://releases.ubuntu.com
[05:14] <xtknight> i think
[05:14] <wastrel> i ran ubuntu on a celeron 333 but that was warty
[05:14] <xtknight> it's either that or http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/
[05:14] <celophane> Thanks!
[05:14] <xtknight> maynards-girl, ah well there is another way we can check.  "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver"
[05:14] <craigbass1976> anyone familiar with running java apps?  I'm getting an error "...Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java..."
[05:14] <atselby> can anyone give me suggestions on unneeded processes I can quit for ram purposes?
[05:15] <tjb13> nice thanks
[05:15] <wastrel> you'll want to use a light wm, not gnome or kde
[05:15] <xtknight> !info libgcj7-awt | craigbass1976
[05:15] <ubotu> craigbass1976: libgcj7-awt: AWT peer runtime libraries for use with gcj. In component main, is optional. Version 4.1.1-14ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 77 kB, installed size 248 kB
[05:15] <xtknight> try it^^
[05:15] <tjb13> xtknight thank you so much man
[05:15] <xtknight> no problem
[05:15] <tjb13> i was looking to the answer for that
[05:15] <firefly2442> atselby: any services you don't need might help
[05:16] <xtknight> i'd use blackbox instead of xfce/gnome/kde on a quite-old system
[05:16] <atselby> firefly2442: could you give me some suggesttions?
[05:16] <firefly2442> atselby: how much RAM do you have?
[05:16] <earthmeLon> Hey buddies, Im looking for some help getting ssl to work with my apache2 server.  Would anybody in here mind helping me out?  Or pointing me in a better direction?  I am getting this error number: 12263
[05:16] <wastrel> i'd use windowmaker :]
[05:16] <wj32> jaytee...
[05:16] <atselby> firefly2442: one gig.
[05:16] <wj32> reminds me of zhaytee
[05:16] <legos> hello.... is anyone running VMWARE with winxp installed?
[05:17] <eck> atselby: that's way more than enough for gnome or kde
[05:17] <wj32> yes
[05:17] <xtknight> legos, yes
[05:17] <firefly2442> atselby: seems like plenty to me, are you having performance issues?
[05:17] <eck> certainly a lot more than i have :-)
[05:17] <wj32> im running VMware with windows xp
[05:17] <getoo> i cant play .avi with mplayer
[05:17] <atselby> firefly2442: but it usually is using 75%
[05:17] <wj32> any questions?
[05:17] <getoo> i get something about video_out
[05:17] <tbuss> mjgxtc: you have to tell the package manager where you are downloading your repositories from, click on setting/repositories
[05:17] <firefly2442> atselby: that's because it's being cached
[05:17] <xtknight> 'using' RAM != 'allocating' RAM
[05:17] <atselby> firefly2442: yes it just randomly slows down.. alot.
[05:17] <eck> atselby: are you sure you are not counting cache?
[05:17] <tbuss> mjgxtc: should be something there for your cdrom
[05:17] <atselby> eck: i don't know im going on what a package called sysinfo is displaying.
[05:18] <legos> xtknight: after I install winxp in the server, I have to reboot in safe mode to run a script.  Will it let me boot to safe mode after install?
[05:18] <Pelo> getoo,   there is a setting you have to adjsut, give me a minute to look up wich
[05:18] <xtknight> atselby, i recommend tihs.  good read.  http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management
[05:18] <eck> atselby: use the -/+ buffers/cache line in the output of free -m
[05:18] <getoo> Pelo: thanx
[05:18] <atselby> eck: do what?
[05:18] <AxelBeta> Hola alguno de uds. habla espaol
[05:18] <eck> you shouldn't really count cache, and buffers can be kicked out easily too
[05:18] <mjgxtc> tbuss I can browse my cdrom
[05:18] <xtknight> !es | AxelBeta
[05:18] <ubotu> AxelBeta: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:18] <eck> atselby: that is the number you should be using
[05:18] <maynards-girl> xtknight: it says driver="ati" (had some other dirver listings like mouse and wacom)
[05:18] <AxelBeta> gracias
[05:19] <Pelo> getoo,   start  mplayer from the menu,   right click on the console  > prefs > video,  select x11
[05:19] <xtknight> maynards-girl, ah k.  you are using the 2D accelerated ati driver.  i recommend you leave it at 'ati' unless you want to use 3D games
[05:19] <getoo> Pelo: got it , thanx
[05:19] <getoo> let me give it a try
[05:19] <atselby> eck: free -m displays ...
[05:19] <mjgxtc> tbuss: just not sure what Im looking for
[05:19] <xtknight> maynards-girl, or unless while dragging windows it seems very slow.  it shouldn't.
[05:19] <zero88> Sometimes my sound doesnt work when i boot up.is there a command to load the sound?
[05:19] <wj32> legos: what script?
[05:19] <tbuss> ok
[05:19] <atselby> eck: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15476/
[05:19] <tbuss> mjgxtc: ok
[05:19] <j_rippel> I have a question. I currently have Ubuntu and have installed the kubuntu-desktop package... I've found that I want to exclusively run Kubuntu, but this computer has 3 partitions, one for XP, one for things shared between Ubuntu and XP and one for ubuntu... can I just format over the ubuntu install and install Kubuntu?
[05:20] <xtknight> j_rippel, sure
[05:20] <eck> atselby: so you are not even using half your ram
[05:20] <j_rippel> xtknight: thanks!
[05:20] <legos> wj32: its windows xp with integrated sp2, gotta run a script to get past the authentication.
[05:20] <atselby> eck: so what would cause the spontaneous slowdowns?
[05:20] <eck> well it is being used, but just for cache
[05:20] <maynards-girl> xtknight: how do i get it so i can play the 3d games?
[05:20] <atselby> eck: where it drags to a halt.
[05:20] <getoo> Pelo: it works now
[05:20] <xtknight> atselby, could be cpu, i/o, interrupts anything.
[05:20] <getoo> thanx bro
[05:20] <wj32> legos: what authentication?
[05:20] <atselby> xtknight: can you tell me a way to check if that would be it?
[05:20] <xtknight> !ati | maynards-girl
[05:20] <ubotu> maynards-girl: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:20] <Pelo> getoo,  good, I wans'T sure it was that one
[05:20] <thomasWSU> I just switch from Dapper to Edgy,  In Dapper there was a program in system->administration that would let you mount and unmount where is the that program in Edgy
[05:20] <getoo> :P
[05:20] <wj32> legos: windows logon authentication?
[05:20] <xtknight> atselby, i'd start at 'dmesg' and look for odd things shortly after the halts
[05:21] <bogor> I have dual boot with windows xp & ubuntu edgy. How to use ext3 partition in windows xp ?
[05:21] <legos> wj32: ehehehe windows authentication.... aka black death!
[05:21] <yangyi> Good morning, everyone~!
[05:21] <Pelo> thomasWSU,  the disk util thing ?  it's gone
[05:21] <atselby> xtknight: okay.
[05:21] <wj32> legos: so... you want to get into windows by cracking an accounts password.
[05:21] <theTrav> ok, so I want to copy a data DVD, I'm using a notebook with only one DVD drive.  How do I do it?
[05:21] <wj32> legos: oh who cares.
[05:21] <wj32> legos: but
[05:21] <thomasWSU> yes Pelo, what can I used no
[05:21] <wj32> legos: what kinda script
[05:21] <theTrav> I can see an entry in places called CD/DVD creator
[05:21] <firefly2442> theTrav: Acidrip works well
[05:21] <thomasWSU> use now
[05:21] <eck> atselby: if it is a cpu issue you can just use top, if it is an i/o issue then you have to do a bit more investigative work
[05:21] <theTrav> but can't figure out how to work it
[05:21] <Pelo> thomasWSU,  to do what ?
[05:21] <wj32> legos: .bat or .cmd?
[05:22] <atselby> eck: top?
[05:22] <theTrav> firefly2442, another package?
[05:22] <tbuss> mjgxtc: do you have synaptic package manager open?
[05:22] <eck> atselby: another command :-)
[05:22] <legos> wj32: no tricking windows into not authenticating.... it makes the windows installation think its running in safe mode when the authentication at startup runs.... then it just boots normally...
[05:22] <d00d> how can u stop x with console ?
[05:22] <firefly2442> theTrav: yeah sudo apt-get install acidrip should work I think
[05:22] <thomasWSU> I have a FAT32 drive I used for music and I need to be able to mount it
[05:22] <xtknight> d00d, sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[05:22] <mjgxtc> tbuss: yes
[05:22] <Pelo> thomasWSU,   menu > places > my computer > select rightclick mount
[05:22] <yangyi> excuse me...Where can I download w32codecs for MPLAYER in Ubunbu 6.10? I wanna watch RMVBs in Mplayer.
[05:22] <firefly2442> theTrav: then look under the menu in "Sound and Video"
[05:23] <wj32> legos: i'm still very very confused.
[05:23] <atselby> eck: ah, as i found out.
[05:23] <tbuss> mjgxtc: do a search for 'linux-restricted-modules'
[05:23] <aldin> bogor: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_read_Linux_partitions_.28ext2.2C_ext3.29_in_Windows_machine
[05:23] <xtknight> !seveas | yangyi
[05:23] <ubotu> yangyi: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:23] <Pelo> thomasWSU,  consider adding it to fstab
[05:23] <xtknight> !w32codecs
[05:23] <atselby> eck: what would i look for in this?
[05:23] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[05:23] <theTrav> ooh, here's another question, my drive has lightscribe for labelling dvd's, anyone know if I can get that working?
[05:23] <xtknight> there was lightscribe support in linux
, does mount -t vfat /dev/<drive> /media work?
[05:23] <aldin> bogor: if u didnt know u can write on NTFS from ubuntu linux
[05:23] <atselby> eck: it seems to be showing the top processes.
[05:23] <theTrav> and thanks firefly I'll check out acidrip
[05:23] <atselby> eck: in memory usage. at least that is first glance to me.
[05:23] <odat> did anyone notice that openoffice with the openoffice-gtk add on does not display icon buttons in the toolbar
[05:23] <mjgxtc> tbuss: itsays linux-restricted=modules-gener <IP_ADDRESS> is installed
[05:23] <tupa> I want to install ubuntu but what version should I download?
[05:23] <wj32> ic
[05:24] <legos> wj32: windows starts... checks authentication, thinks its booting in safe mode, then it just boots normally, no need to authenticate thro0ugh microcrap.....
[05:24] <Sean> tupa: Latest
[05:24] <Pelo> theTrav,  searchfor lightscrive ( or whatever )_ in syanptic I am sure I have seen a package for it
[05:24] <yangyi> tupa, are you new to Linux?
[05:24] <xtknight> tupa, well ubuntu feisty is coming out in less than a week
[05:24] <wj32> wj32: oh, you mean activation?
[05:24] <aldin> tupa: in a few days it will come v7.04, the last one is 6.10
[05:24] <firefly2442> tupa: I would wait for Fiesty
[05:24] <theTrav> thanks pelo
[05:24] <bogor> aldin, how about the read/write ext3 with windows ?
[05:24] <xtknight> yea
[05:24] <aldin> tupa: it is scheduled for 19th
[05:24] <Sean> Wow
[05:24] <Shoeb> What are the main things I need to consider to make sure I can do everything remotely and I won't have any problems, before sending the box off to the colo?
[05:24] <tbuss> mjgxtc: anything else listed?
[05:24] <xtknight> bogor, you can read ext2 with explore2fs
[05:24] <wj32> !ext3
[05:24] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[05:24] <yangyi> v6.10, if you wanna insall Ubuntu inmideatly
[05:24] <mjgxtc> tbuss: so I guess I already have restricted modules
[05:25] <aldin> bogor: follow the link i gave u... i didi it and could write on ext3 from windows...
[05:25] <yangyi> excuse me...Where can I download w32codecs for MPLAYER in Ubunbu 6.10? I wanna watch RMVBs in Mplayer.
[05:25] <xtknight> dont install 7.04 now, there are kernel issues.  give the livecd a try thouhg
[05:25] <tbuss> mjgxtc: do a search for madwifi tools
[05:25] <Sean> Can anyone help me with this.. I am running edgy ubuntu on my iMac here, working great. OpenSSH is just being a drag.
[05:25] <bogor> aldin,xtknight, thanks :)
[05:25] <wj32> !w32codecs
[05:25] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[05:25] <wj32> yangyi!!
[05:25] <thomasWSU> bogor, I have it mount right now I just want to change the path to it
[05:25] <yangyi> thanks
[05:25] <firefly2442> Shoeb: SSH + VNC would work well for remote access
[05:25] <yangyi> !w32codecs
[05:25] <tupa> yangyi no I'm not new into linux
[05:26] <Shoeb> firefly2442: It's ubuntu server, pretty much txt based.. so VNC is out of it, lol
[05:26] <Sean> :P
[05:26] <firefly2442> Shoeb: well, SSH it is then ;)
[05:26] <tupa> I need newer packages but not ones that crash frequently yangyi
[05:26] <mjgxtc> tbuss: linux-restricted-modules again 4 versions, two of which are installed
[05:26] <atselby> eck: could xorg be a problem with the random slowdowns?
[05:26] <yangyi> get w32codecs
[05:26] <tbuss> mjgxtc: open your terminal and type uname-r
[05:27] <Sean> Can anyone help me with this.. I am running edgy ubuntu on my iMac here, working great. OpenSSH is just being a drag.
[05:27] <mjgxtc> tbuss: the latest ones for the generic kernel
[05:27] <atselby> eck: it appears to be using 224 mb of ram.
[05:27] <Pelo> yangyi,  you need to follow the links for instructions
[05:27] <Pelo> !restricted | yangyi
[05:27] <ubotu> yangyi: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:27] <Paddy_EIRE> feisty better be worth it, Edgy & Dapper sucked ass so here is hoping that another god damn format reinstall isnt in order
[05:27] <atselby> thanks for the ideas all. ill try them out, i have to go now.
[05:27] <atselby> night
[05:27] <tbuss> mjgxtc: make sure you have the modules that are the same as your kernel
[05:27] <tupa> does ubuntu has a "testing like" version (as in Debian) that has recent packages that is pretty stable?
[05:27] <yong> join #cn
[05:27] <wj32> wtf
[05:27] <wj32> you can pipe
[05:27] <wj32> using irc?
[05:27] <yong> join /cn
[05:27] <Phrozen_One_> Paddy_EIRE, go troll somewhere else
[05:28] <mjgxtc> 2.6.17-11-generic
[05:28] <wj32> !help
[05:28] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:28] <wj32> !help | wj32 | wj32
[05:28] <ubotu> wj32 | wj32: please see above
[05:28] <wj32> damn
[05:28] <tbuss> mjgxtc: If you could connect you desktop for just a short while you work from the terminal and download more updated stuff
[05:28] <aldin> tupa: ubuntu 6.10 is very recent... but 7.04 is very hot recent.... suggest u to wait 5 days till it comes out officially
[05:28] <NickGarvey> wj32: pm the bot to play please
[05:28] <Paddy_EIRE> Phrozen_One Sorry to hurt your feelings b
[05:28] <firefly2442> tupa: fiesty will be a good combination of stability and recent packages
[05:28] <wj32> sorry
[05:28] <hajhouse> does anyone know whether you can use Sprint Wireless PCS on Linux?
[05:28] <Shoeb> I guess so.
[05:28] <NickGarvey> wj32: no prob
[05:28] <Shoeb> Looks like everytime I run sudo aptitude upgrade, ssh seems to stop working though.
[05:29] <Pelo> hajhouse,  try the forum
[05:29] <SysProbe> nNeed some help badly.  I am new to linux and switching from Fedora to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake
[05:29] <Phrozen_One_> Paddy_EIRE, respect the people who are developing Ubuntu
[05:29] <gammedup> SysProbe: and?
[05:29] <wj32> SysProbe: what help?
[05:29] <Pelo> SysProbe,  do you have a specific issue ?
[05:29] <Paddy_EIRE> I do they need to learn look at Gentoo
[05:29] <Pelo> Phrozen_One,  donT' feed the troll
[05:29] <Paddy_EIRE> for feck sake
[05:30] <maynards-girl> xtknight: tnx! i think it's working now!
[05:30] <Pelo> !ops
[05:30] <Phrozen_One_> Pelo, I'll take the advice
[05:30] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda or mneptok
[05:30] <SysProbe> I am setting up a LAMP server and have 2-hard drives.  I followed the guide, but am stuck because the guide was only for 1-hard drive
[05:30] <gammedup> wow, paddy evens sound irish
[05:30] <Phrozen_One_> how is everyone tonight?
, so warty is the newest (and crash prone) and feisty is "testing like"??
[05:30] <xtknight> maynards-girl, cool.  try some planetpenguin-racer to make sure
[05:30] <wastrel> tupa:  warty is the oldest
[05:30] <Paddy_EIRE> Pelo since when are simle facts trolling.... Idiot
[05:30] <wj32> SysProbe: explain what the 2 hds are used for
[05:30] <xtknight> Edgy is the current stable version.
[05:30] <firefly2442> tupa: no Edgy is current, fiesty is (testing) but will be released as the current stable next week
[05:30] <xtknight> Feisty is the experimental right now.  it will be Stable in a week
[05:30] <wj32> SysProbe: do they have specific purposes?
[05:30] <Pelo> !ops | Paddy_EIRE
[05:30] <ubotu> Paddy_EIRE: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda or mneptok
[05:30] <Shoeb> What's a good system admin GUI thing?
[05:31] <Sean> Konsole :P
[05:31] <gammedup> command line
[05:31] <xtknight> lol i agree
[05:31] <Shoeb> To connect to ubuntu-server via browser and administer.
[05:31] <SysProbe> Let me type where I am at currently
[05:31] <Sean> lol
[05:31] <dimiter> Feisty works better for me than edgy did.
[05:31] <xtknight> same
[05:31] <aldin> tupa: edgy (6.10) is "stable" feisty is "unstable" till 19th april, after that it will be out and be stable
[05:31] <wastrel> tupa:  they're alphabetical now but started out not alphabetical :]
[05:31] <firefly2442> Shoeb: webmin? I don't have any experience with it though
[05:31] <xtknight> !webmin
[05:31] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[05:31] <gammedup> Shoeb: webmin
[05:31] <xtknight> ;)
[05:31] <tupa> and what is it warty then?
[05:31] <Paddy_EIRE> What about 64 bit support
[05:31] <Shoeb> Why does ubotu say it's not supported?
[05:31] <Paddy_EIRE> dying for that
[05:31] <mjgxtc> tbuss: no can do, not untill monday
[05:31] <wastrel> tupa:  warty was the first release code name
[05:31] <xtknight> ubuntu has amd64 support
[05:31] <xtknight> dont know where youve been
[05:32] <Paddy_EIRE> then mycomps will be complete
[05:32] <aldin> tupa: warty is v4.10 of ubuntu too old for you
[05:32] <firefly2442> Shoeb: I think there are some security issues with it?
[05:32] <d00d> in my nvidia says no kernel soruce what package i forget
[05:32] <d00d> err
[05:32] <gammedup> xtknight: windows
[05:32] <SpAc> anyone else here using murrine theme engine?
[05:32] <PersonA> I have a question about fonts not being displayed properly. Any takers ?
[05:32] <xtknight> SpAc, yea
[05:32] <Shoeb> ah
[05:32] <Paddy_EIRE> xtknight not proper
[05:32] <xtknight> PersonA, sure
[05:32] <aldin> SpAc i do
[05:32] <xtknight> Paddy_EIRE, how does ubuntu not have proper 64 bit support?  please elaborate, i'd love to hear.
[05:32] <SysProbe> My master drive is has been partitioned #1 primary 197.4 mb f ext3 / boot   and  #1 primary 8.2mb f ext3 /
[05:32] <Paddy_EIRE> xtknight mostly 32 bit apps running
[05:33] <tbuss> mjgxtc: I have to go man, sorry, if you take a look here and read what sin there I'm sure you will have a connection up and running in no time http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15478/
[05:33] <SysProbe> What do I do with my secound slave drive ??
[05:33] <xtknight> Paddy_EIRE,  actually the whole amd64 image is full of 64-bit images.
[05:33] <Paddy_EIRE> xtknight care to point
[05:33] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[05:33] <xtknight> Paddy_EIRE, hrm how did you deduce that they were 32bit?
[05:33] <PersonA> xtknight : I updated edubuntu .. After everything was finished  , i restarted of course. Quite a few times. Not sure how to fix it. But the fonts/text is a display of blocks
[05:33] <Paddy_EIRE> xtknight you have used this right???
[05:33] <xtknight> PersonA, hrmm
[05:33] <SpAc> xtknight, aldin, great! Do some things remain unstyled for you? For example the update the software sources GUI doesn't use the theme
[05:34] <xtknight> Paddy_EIRE, yea i have used amd64 ubuntu but i'm on i386 now
[05:34] <firefly2442> SysProbe: did you setup swap partition?
[05:34] <Amaranth> spac: that's intentional
[05:34] <xtknight> SpAc, yea those are root apps.  copy you theme to /usr/share/themes
[05:34] <hedos> Hello. Last time I tried Ubuntu, it didn't seem to have a good support for developers. Many tools were missing, if you compare with what Slackware comes with. Am I mistaken? Did I somehow not install the whole complete package?
[05:34] <mjr> Paddy_EIRE, are you sure you're not running 32-bit ubuntu userland with just a 64-bit kernel or even a 32-bit one? The amd64 install disk is basically all 64-bit software...
[05:34] <Amaranth> spac: it's a security risk for an admin app to use a user theme
[05:34] <SysProbe> fire...I have no idea what that is
[05:34] <Paddy_EIRE> xtknight I think u should do ur homework mate ;)
[05:34] <SpAc> ah! ok, cool
[05:34] <xtknight> Paddy_EIRE, type "file /path/to/executable" see if it says 32-bit LSB or 64-bit LSB ELF, and get back to me
[05:34] <SysProbe> Should my slave drive be logical
[05:34] <SpAc> I'll give it a try, thanks for the support! :)
[05:35] <Paddy_EIRE> xtknight there you go
[05:35] <Paddy_EIRE> been there done that
[05:35] <opopanax> hey all.
[05:35] <maynards-girl> xtknight: choppy but it works... thanks again
[05:35] <PersonA> I as actually updating to Fiesty ... and stoped it 3/4 of the way thru updating xtknight .... It ws in the proces of downloading the updates. I would finish the update. But with the text messed up. Not 100% sure what to start or use
[05:35] <opopanax> !woot
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about woot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <Paddy_EIRE> thats why I now have to install Gentoo
[05:35] <Amaranth> !offtopic | Paddy_EIRE, xtknight, etc
[05:35] <ubotu> Paddy_EIRE, xtknight, etc: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:35] <mjr> Paddy_EIRE, well then you're running 32-bit x86 Ubuntu. If you want 64-bit, install the 64-bit version. Doh.
[05:35] <xtknight> lol
[05:35] <Sean> firefly: Can you help me with an OpenSSH issue I am having?
[05:35] <SpAc> On that topic... I can't get the murine window borders to work. I assume I need the metacity theme... all the links are broken on gnome-looks etc
[05:35] <Paddy_EIRE> Amaranth your correct sorrt
[05:35] <Pelo> hedos,  ubuntu has 18 000 + packages not all of them are part fo the default install,   you may need to had a few manualy , you can see and search thru allthe pacakges easily using synaptic
[05:35] <Paddy_EIRE> *sorry
[05:36] <xtknight> maynards-girl, try turning down the settings in the ATI config (like texture quality) to get it smoother
[05:36] <hedos> Pelo, ok, thanks.
[05:36] <chaterton> con
[05:36] <hedos> I suppose the package manager for Ubuntu is pretty good given its growing community.
, one last question, I see different brands of ubuntu (ubuntu,kubuntu,xubuntu, desktop edition, etc), I don't want garbage that I don't need to be installed, just a minimal and then start adding what I need, which brand do you recommend
[05:36] <Sean> Can someone help me with an OpenSSH issue I am having?
[05:36] <opopanax> it's awesome
[05:36] <Amaranth> hedos: Applications->Add/Remove :)
[05:36] <PersonA> I like the package manager for ubuntu
[05:36] <xtknight> tupa, ubuntu server
[05:36] <zxul767> Hi, I cannot find the man pages for the standard C library functions in Ubuntu Feisty. Does any one know how to install them?
[05:36] <SpAc> http://gnomethemes.org/?p=52
[05:36] <Amaranth> !ask | Sean
[05:36] <ubotu> Sean: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:36] <Pelo> hedos,  you can suppose so
[05:37] <wastrel> zxul767:  manpages-dev
[05:37] <dimiter> which IRC app is best for UBUNTU?
[05:37] <Amaranth> dimiter: xchat-gnome
[05:37] <zxul767> thanks wastrel
[05:37] <opopanax> I'm doing an update on feisty, though, and the server that has the new kernel image on it isn't working...got "forbidden".
[05:37] <Pelo> dimiter,  xchat
[05:37] <xtknight> zxul767, manpages-dev
[05:37] <atoponce> dimiter: irssi
[05:37] <Amaranth> opopanax: that's intentional, if you upgrade it breaks stuff :)
[05:37] <zxul767> thanks xtknight!
[05:37] <opopanax> bitchx, i've heard, is pretty good.
[05:37] <Pelo> opopanax,   try asking in #ubuntu+1  , they are the expert on feisty
[05:37] <Amaranth> opopanax: also, #ubuntu+1
[05:37] <opopanax> Pelo: thanks!
[05:37] <Sean> Okay, well my issue is that it is not authenticating correctly. It is connecting fine (from my other PC, through PuTTY), yet not accepting a valid password.
[05:37] <Sean> OpenSSH.
[05:38] <SpAc> Does anyone know of an alternate place to pick up the metacity theme? Seems everywhere is referencing the same place gnomethemes.org/?p=52
[05:38] <mjgxtc> tbuss: thanks for trying
[05:38] <Pelo> SpAc,   gnome-look.com
[05:38] <opopanax> Amaranth: oh, ok.  if i just ignore the package, we'll be ok?  l-r-m won't break?
[05:38] <xtknight> SpAc, http://www.gnome-look.org/
[05:38] <PepperoniDip> whats up guys
[05:38] <SpAc> Pelo: Yeah... tried that > http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=42755
[05:38] <PepperoniDip> anyone hungry
[05:38] <Amaranth> opopanax: right, that kernel is really broken
[05:38] <xtknight> yes
[05:39] <swedekid> how do i install flash player for firefox on ubuntu?
[05:39] <Amaranth> opopanax: you should use the -15 kernel instead
[05:39] <xtknight> !flash
[05:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:39] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[05:39] <Paddy_EIRE> !cake
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <Paddy_EIRE> ?
[05:39] <Sean> I have an issue on OpenSSH, that it is not authenticating correctly. It is connecting fine (from my other PC, through PuTTY), yet not accepting a valid password.
[05:39] <SpAc> xtknight: thanks, but same problem http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=42755
[05:39] <swedekid> !Flash
[05:39] <Paddy_EIRE> !CAKE
[05:39] <opopanax> k, thanks Amaranth.
[05:39] <swedekid> !flash
[05:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:39] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[05:40] <Amaranth> swedekid: we just got that, you didn't need to do it again
[05:40] <Sean> I have an issue on OpenSSH, that it is not authenticating correctly. It is connecting fine (from my other PC, through PuTTY), yet not accepting a valid password.
[05:40] <swedekid> oh
[05:40] <Pelo> Sean,   if no one here as an asnwer for your try looking it up in the forum or try asking your question at different times of day,   different crowds have different skill sets
[05:40] <xtknight> SpAc, what problem?
[05:40] <Amaranth> @unban 30m annoying
[05:40] <wastrel> Sean:  ssh localhost with that password works?
[05:40] <Amaranth> i guess that's still broken
[05:40] <Sean> wastrel: Yeah
[05:40] <wastrel> Sean:  are you sure you're connecting to the right machine?
[05:40] <SpAc> xtknight: the download link is broken
[05:41] <Amaranth> sean: got a router in the way?
[05:41] <xtknight> SpAc, which ?
[05:41] <Sean> wastrel: Yeah, I am getting a connection, and going through my LAN.
[05:41] <xtknight> SpAc, 5 download links for me
[05:41] <swedekid> can anyone help me install flash 9 on 7.04?
[05:41] <SpAc> xtknight: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/download.php?content=42755&id=11
[05:41] <xtknight> SpAc, ah hmm
[05:41] <wastrel> swedekid:  7.04 support in #ubuntu+1
[05:42] <swedekid> wastrel: huh?
[05:42] <xtknight> SpAc, there are a lot of themes based on the murrine engine actually, though
[05:42] <gammedup> Sean: have you modified sshd_config at all?
[05:42] <Amaranth> swedekid: install flashplayer-nonfree
[05:42] <xtknight> go to the #ubuntu+1 channel for Feisty.  this is not the channel for talking about feisty's issues
[05:42] <SpAc> xtknight: it's obviously pretty popular ;)
[05:42] <Amaranth> swedekid: err, flashplugin-nonfree
[05:42] <gammedup> what o/s is the server you are connecting to?
[05:42] <swedekid> errrr
[05:42] <Sean> gammedup: I have not, well trying to fix it, but after failing I start with a new config, and Ubuntu Edgy (PowerPC)
[05:42] <swedekid> ive got the download already
[05:43] <Amaranth> xtknight: murrine is just a light mod to clearlooks :)
[05:43] <swedekid> i have the tar.gx file from adobe
[05:43] <Amaranth> swedekid: delete it
[05:43] <xtknight> Amaranth, yea slower unfortunately
[05:43] <wastrel> murrine engine works fine for me
[05:43] <xtknight> Amaranth, looks better tho.
[05:43] <wastrel> i think i ended up installing from source
[05:43] <xtknight> !info gtk2-engines-murrine
[05:43] <ubotu> Package gtk2-engines-murrine does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:44] <xtknight> well it's in feisty
[05:44] <wj32> murrine?
[05:44] <xtknight> yea
[05:44] <wj32> download
[05:44] <xtknight> under that pkg name
[05:44] <wj32> it
[05:44] <wj32> then compile
[05:44] <swedekid> uhh, i dont know the directory its in
[05:44] <xtknight> !enter
[05:44] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:44] <wj32> !murrine
[05:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about murrine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <wj32> anyway...
[05:44] <wastrel> i'm sick of all my gnome themes tho :p
[05:44] <Sean> Anyone think you know a bit on how to solve the "Access Denied" through PuTTY to OpenSSH server error (Ubuntu)
[05:44] <wastrel> also metacity
[05:45] <wj32> ./configure; make; sudo make install
[05:45] <wastrel> Sean:  check your /etc/hosts.allow  and /etc/hosts.deny
[05:45] <gammedup> wastrel: come to the Dark Side ... KDE
[05:45] <wj32> murrine is a great theme
[05:45] <Pelo> Sean, what is the OS of the computer you are trying to connect to ?
[05:45] <wj32> gammedup: come to the Darker Side ...  I need help restoring GRUB
[05:46] <gammedup> Sean: can you get into the server at all?
[05:46] <SpAc> xtknight: I guess I'll just wait till that site comes back up
[05:46] <dimiter> !feisty
[05:46] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[05:47] <Sean> wastrel: There are a bunch of commented lines in hosts.allow, and same with hosts.deny
[05:47] <swedekid> ok i just typed in "sudo mv install_flash_player_9_linux/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[05:47] <swedekid> sudo mv install_flash_player_9_linux/flashplayer.xpt /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/" in the terminal and it asked for a password, I cant type it in
[05:47] <xtknight> why not just use flash player installer?
[05:47] <xtknight> abruzzi, any more details?
[05:47] <eck> Sean: you need to get on the server and look at the sshd logs
[05:47] <xtknight> abruzzi, what happened?  which Ubuntu version are you running?
[05:48] <Sean> eck: /var/log/auth.log ?
[05:48] <opopanax> +1
[05:48] <abruzzi> Sure, I'm not sure what happened, but now when I try to boot linux it gives me error 22: partition not found
[05:48] <swedekid> ok i tried pressing enter, then typing it in, then it said that it wasnt accepted
[05:48] <eck> Sean: i think so
[05:48] <wastrel> animated checkboxes?
[05:48] <Sean> eck: Alright, I'll let you know what it says.
[05:48] <xtknight> abruzzi, hmm that's odd..
[05:48] <eck> the logs have different names everwhere you go, it's hard to keep them all straight :-)
[05:48] <Pelo> abruzzi,  did you play around with  /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[05:48] <xtknight> abruzzi, so what are you on now? different pc? windows?
[05:48] <sprx_> bbs.hopto.org
[05:48] <xtknight> livecd?
[05:48] <abruzzi> Couldn't boot XP either so I returned to ntldr
[05:49] <xtknight> via fixmbr?
[05:49] <abruzzi> yeah
[05:49] <wj32> more like
[05:49] <xtknight> are you on a linux livecd now?
[05:49] <abruzzi> no, fxboot
[05:49] <wj32> overtakembr
[05:49] <Sean> eck: It pulls a lot of PAM Module errors from it
[05:49] <swedekid> can anyone help me?
[05:49] <wj32> writemonopolymbrtodisk()
[05:49] <abruzzi> I'm on XP, I'm positive the linux ext3 and swap partitions are still there
[05:49] <wj32> swedekid:
[05:49] <xtknight> wj32, in fact if grub is installed on a partition, fixboot will destroy the partition
[05:50] <wj32> you trying to install flashplayer?
[05:50] <swedekid> i cant type my password in on terminal when putting in "sudo mv install_flash_player_9_linux/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[05:50] <swedekid> sudo mv install_flash_player_9_linux/flashplayer.xpt /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/"
[05:50] <swedekid> yes
[05:50] <wj32> xtknight: wtf
[05:50] <eck> Sean: pastebin part of it
[05:50] <wj32> swedekid: yes you can, its just not displayed
[05:50] <SpAc> do you have to do anything special (apart from enable it) to get animations to work in murrine? Any special packages required?
[05:50] <Pelo> swedekid,  try  gksu instead of sudo
[05:50] <gireesh> just reinstall grub
[05:50] <wj32> for security reasons
[05:50] <xtknight> wj32, yaeh it's misdetected as FAT16 then you chkdsk and it makes a 10mb frankenstein parition out of your ntfs
[05:50] <swedekid> gksu?
[05:50] <sorcerer> hey guys i messed up bery installation could some one help me
[05:50] <Sean> eck: I have to transfer it through FTP to a server then my pc, hold on lol
[05:50] <abruzzi> How do I reinstall grub then?
[05:51] <wj32> swedekid: dont use gksu, its for graphical programs only
[05:51] <xtknight> wj32: but only if GRUB is in the boot sector of an NTFS partition.  if grub is in the MBR (like it should be), fixmbr and fixboot dont destroy anything.
[05:51] <wj32> swedekid: just do that sudo thing
[05:51] <swedekid> it keeps saying Sorry, try again
[05:51] <wj32> swedekid: oh
[05:51] <gireesh> boot of the ubuntu cd and I think it has a repair option?
[05:51] <Pelo> G'night folks
[05:51] <SpAc> xtknight, aldin, the theme now works for admin dialogues. Thanks!
[05:51] <xtknight> SpAc, installing the murrine engine should be enough
[05:51] <wj32> xtknight: then howcome i can install grub to my /boot partition
[05:52] <eck> wj32: only the stage 1.5 files are in /boot
[05:52] <xtknight> wj32, cuz your /boot parition isnt ntfs
[05:52] <SpAc> xtknight: do your firefox form items remain unstyled?
[05:52] <xtknight> wait i probably misudnerstood your question
[05:52] <swedekid> so what do i do?
[05:52] <xtknight> SpAc, try rebooting firefox?  not all elements will be styled though
[05:52] <xtknight> SpAc, google isnt styled for me
[05:52] <wj32> xtknight: ok
[05:52] <eck> wj32: the part that's supposed tobe on your mbr is the stage 1 stuff
[05:52] <SpAc> xtknight: yeah, drop downs etc. aren't styled. I think that is the same for all theme engines though
[05:52] <swedekid> wj32 what do i do?
[05:53] <wj32> swedekid: um
[05:53] <tropicana> hello
[05:53] <wj32> swedekid: do things like
[05:53] <tropicana> a little help?
[05:53] <swedekid> do i need to remove my password to my user?
[05:53] <wj32> swedekid: synaptic package manager
[05:53] <wj32> swedekid: work
[05:53] <xtknight> !ask
[05:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:53] <tropicana> ok
[05:53] <xtknight> !enter
[05:53] <tropicana> how do i add a windows xp option to grub>?
[05:53] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:53] <lizalo> sup all =)))
[05:53] <FreonTrip> Hi there.
[05:54] <abruzzi> I have a super grub disk floppy, can I reinstall grub with that?
[05:54] <lizalo> UBUNTU rulez =)
[05:54] <wj32> swedekid: actually
[05:54] <gireesh> abruzzi: yeah
[05:54] <eck> tropicana: there is an example near the top of the menu.lst file
[05:54] <Sean> eck: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15479/
[05:54] <FreonTrip> I'm having minor difficulty with my system.
[05:54] <gireesh> boot off the floppy
[05:54] <NBrepresent> hey, how do i downgrade a package?
[05:54] <wj32> swedekid: try and replace "sudo" with "gksudo"
[05:54] <gireesh> when you get to the grub screen hit ESC
[05:54] <wj32> swedekid: in your command
[05:54] <FreonTrip> Nothing big or system-killing, but I suspect it's holding back my performance.
[05:54] <gireesh> it will drop you to a terminal
[05:54] <astate> if I only need to share files through samba, and not access them, I don't need smbfs, correct?
[05:54] <tropicana> eck, where is the menu.lst file?
[05:54] <FreonTrip> How do I determine whether my AGP controller is supported?
[05:54] <swedekid> gah, i really need to get wireless to work, my ethernet cable sucks, and it keeps disconnecting
[05:54] <abruzzi> ok
[05:54] <NBrepresent> i can't install cream (a gui version of vim) because a package it depends on is too new
[05:54] <abruzzi> then
[05:54] <wj32> NBrepresent: is it possible to uninstall it first?
[05:55] <|Kamen|> hi. I'm trying to get wine running on AMD64, I have followed the guide, and it appears to be installed but when I try to run it, it tells me file not found. yet the file IS there, I'm looking straight at it
[05:55] <gireesh> you can install from there using root (hdx,y) and setup (hdx,y). you solve for x and y
[05:55] <wj32> NBrepresent: i dont know then
[05:55] <NBrepresent> wj32: i don't see why not, it isn't essential
[05:55] <abruzzi> Perfect, I guess x is disk and y is partition?
[05:55] <wj32> NBrepresent: have you tried Force Version?
[05:55] <FreonTrip> Anyone?
[05:55] <eck> Sean: something really bad happened to your pam installation
[05:55] <swedekid> what do i do wg32? i disconnectred for a second
[05:55] <NBrepresent> wj32: no i haven't, how do you do that?
[05:56] <eck> Sean: can you get a shell on the computer at all?
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> For some reason JavaScript is not working for me (Firefox, Galeon, Epiphany, Opera), even though the "enable" boxes are checked - thoughts?
[05:56] <Sean> eck: Yeah lol, the only issue is with the /etc/pam.d/ssh file, not PAM itself.
[05:56] <wj32> NBrepresent: Package -> Force Version...
[05:56] <FreonTrip> tonyyarusso:  No idea... that's quite unusual.
[05:56] <swedekid> wg32
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> FreonTrip: Indeed...
[05:56] <eck> Sean: uh... is the file using windows line breaks?
[05:57] <FreonTrip> Can anyone help me determine whether AGP is properly functional on my system?
[05:57] <wj32> swedekid: wireless.
[05:57] <NBrepresent> wj32: thanks for your help1
[05:57] <NBrepresent> !, even.
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about even. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <swedekid> wg32: no to install flash
[05:57] <wj32> swedekid: have you tried gksudo yet?
[05:57] <Sean> eck: Don't think so lol, although it is in DOS format.
[05:57] <swedekid> gksudo?
[05:57] <FreonTrip> Installing Flash isn't terribly hard...
[05:58] <swedekid> for computer illiterate people it is
[05:58] <FreonTrip> ...at least not in 7.04.
[05:58] <wj32> swedekid: gksudo cp install_flash_player_9_linux/flashplayer.xpt /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/"
[05:58] <BrianAnthony> Amaranth: yo
[05:58] <NBrepresent> FreonTrip: is there any way to make wmode transparent work on linux?
[05:58] <FreonTrip> wj32's got the magic ticket if you can't make it happen elsewise.
[05:58] <eck> Sean: oh, maybe because you downloaded it from ftp in ascii mode
[05:58] <NBrepresent> with flash?
[05:58] <wj32> me?
[05:58] <wj32> huh
[05:58] <NBrepresent> or is that just a limitation of flash on linux?
[05:59] <wj32> swedekid: gksudo cp install_flash_player_9_linux/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[05:59] <jack_deltrino> Is there a way to have GDM show both a username and a password prompt like KDM?
[05:59] <wj32> i installed flash
[05:59] <wj32> by using flashplayer-nonfree
[05:59] <swedekid> ummm, it asked me for my password but not in terminal, it came up with that pop up thing
[05:59] <FreonTrip> No idea about wmode, I'm tech-savvy but new at a lot of this myself.  Can't wait to see what a doofus I look like when I install Slackware on my more powerful system... :-\
[05:59] <|Kamen|> does anyone know what would cause a file not found error when the file is clearly present?
[05:59] <Sean> eck: Erm maybe, I need a /etc/pam.d/ssh file that someone has I can try to fix it up.
[05:59] <FreonTrip> |Kamen|:  Check the permissions on the file.
[05:59] <wj32> swedekid: yes, thats ok. type in your password.
[05:59] <swedekid> ok maybe i should get wireless done first
[06:00] <swedekid> i did that, nothing happend wg32
[06:00] <Falstius> |Kamen|: special characters that aren't properly escaped ... or bad file system (fsck it)
[06:00] <wj32> swedekid: thats the point, if it succeeded then nothing happens
[06:00] <eck> Sean: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15482/
[06:00] <swedekid> soo, what now?
[06:00] <FreonTrip> swedekid:  Eat paste, it's good for you.
[06:00] <FreonTrip> :P
[06:00] <wj32> swedekid: have you done both commands?
[06:00] <jack_deltrino> Anyone?
[06:01] <swedekid> no
[06:01] <swedekid> just a sec
[06:01] <|Kamen|> what is fsck?
[06:01] <Crazytom> !media
[06:01] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:01] <jack_deltrino>  Why does GDM do that anyway? I've had a lot of newbies to Linux / BSD wonder where the password textfield is.
[06:01] <FreonTrip> jack_deltrino:  What's your question?
[06:01] <wj32> !fsck
[06:01] <jack_deltrino> *sigh*
[06:01] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[06:01] <jack_deltrino> Is there a way to have GDM show both a username and a password prompt like KDM?
[06:01] <Crazytom> ok what the one for dvd playback?
[06:01] <swedekid> just did the second one, nothing happend again
[06:01] <xtknight> !dvd
[06:01] <yell0w> libdvdcss
[06:01] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:01] <wj32> swedekid: thats good. now test
[06:01] <Sean> eck: Okay trying
[06:01] <Falstius> |Kamen|: it is how you check a filesystem.  eg, "mout -o remount,ro /dev/hda; fsck.ext3 /dev/hda"
[06:01] <FreonTrip> I repeat until someone responds directly to the question:  Is there an easy way to determine whether AGP support is properly functional on my system?
[06:02] <|Kamen|> checking its properties, permissions says its executable but owner is set to root. the file is in usr/bin
[06:02] <swedekid> test it like play a flash movie?
[06:02] <wj32> FreonTrip: lsmod?
[06:02] <FreonTrip> Falstius meant "mount -o remount,ro /dev/hda; fsck.ext3 /dev/hda"
[06:02] <wj32> FreonTrip: no.
[06:02] <ekis> hello, i have a question! "if i don't want to listen the f**** BEEP sound when i type a wrong command" what i need to do?????? thanks.
[06:02] <wj32> swedekid: yes.
[06:02] <xtknight> probably remount-ro actually
[06:02] <cheapStock> hi, i need help.  I installed ubuntu edgy and I wanna uninstall it, I'm dual booting Vista with it.  What I wanna know is how could I remove the GRUB boot manager and restore the old Vista boot sector?
[06:02] <jack_deltrino> Hmm, so repeating a question gets answers.. maybe I should try being a jerk.
[06:02] <swedekid> ok
[06:02] <jack_deltrino> Is there a way to have GDM show both a username and a password prompt like KDM?
[06:02] <Falstius> FreonTrip: yeah, I figured if he couldn't figure out there was an n missing he'd better not place with fsck ;)
[06:02] <xtknight> !repeat
[06:02] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:02] <FreonTrip> jack_deltrino:  I'll at least tell you that I don't know. :)
[06:02] <swedekid> IT WORKS :D!!!
[06:03] <jack_deltrino> FreonTrip: That'll do :)
[06:03] <wj32> swedekid: nice.
[06:03] <eck> Sean: i think that some of those modules though (e.g. nologin) should be standard though, so i would be a bit worried that pam cannot find them
[06:03] <jack_deltrino> Hmm, testing.
[06:03] <swedekid> now to tackle my wireless connection
[06:03] <|Kamen|> heh. not sure I should paly with fsck either
[06:03] <jack_deltrino> !repeat > jack_deltrino
[06:03] <wj32> swedekid: BTW, don't ask me about wireless
[06:03] <|Kamen|> <-- still newb to all of this
[06:03] <swedekid> dangit
[06:03] <phr0ze> jack, I don't know either.
[06:03] <wj32> swedekid: i'm clueless on that
[06:04] <FreonTrip> God bless you, wj32, it is apparently working.
[06:04] <jack_deltrino> Yeah.. why do people like to flood this channel? /msg ubotu with ! commands or !command > redirect_to_this_name
[06:04] <|Kamen|> but even trying to use the file with sudo gives me file not found
[06:04] <Sean> eck: Yeah, I didn't remove them though. It has to be a relativity issue or module location issue, I hope.
[06:04] <wj32> FreonTrip: i'm an atheist! noooo!!!!
[06:04] <FreonTrip> Sadly, a 1.6 GHz Pentium 4 appears to be a little... anemic for the purposes of playing Doom 3.
[06:04] <wj32> FreonTrip: if you were looking to play Doom 3 using software rendering...
[06:04] <FreonTrip> wj32:  So am I.  Umm... ungod bless you.
[06:04] <Falstius> |Kamen|: what is the file name?
[06:04] <|Kamen|> wine
[06:04] <FreonTrip> wj32:  Nah, I have a 5600 Ultra.
[06:05] <wj32> FreonTrip: ok
[06:05] <FreonTrip> This is the weakest of my three systems as-is, I just decided to give Ubuntu a whirl after a two year absence.
[06:05] <FreonTrip> 7.04 is really nice.
[06:05] <wj32> !anemic
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anemic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <wj32> damn
[06:06] <wj32> i cant use a dictionary
[06:06] <swedekid> can anyone help me get wireless working on 7.04?
[06:06] <jack_deltrino> swedekid: #ubuntu+1
[06:06] <wastrel> wj32:  /exec look anemic
[06:07] <swedekid> whats that mean?
[06:07] <sorcerer> you when the screen minimises the animation isnt that smooth is there away to make it smooth as silk?
[06:07] <Crazytom> swedekid, what chipset
[06:07] <Sean> eck: Alright your PAM worked good, no errors are in auth.log now (for PAM). Though still it says Access Denied in PuTTY (it is connecting though)
[06:07] <swedekid> dunno, someone told me to type somthing in in something, but i forgot
[06:07] <wj32> swedekid: it means join channel #ubuntu+1. but don't. we can help here :)
[06:07] <FreonTrip> sorcerer:  What are system specs?
[06:08] <tbuss> I;m trying to install gallery for apache2 every time I get to the config for gallery http://localhost/gallery/setup/index.php i get "The requested URL /gallery/setup/index.php was not found on this server"
[06:08] <Crazytom> swedekid, type lspci -v
[06:08] <eck> Sean: so then there should be some different errors in auth.log :-)
[06:08] <swedekid> you just said a while ago you cant help
[06:08] <wj32> see, we need drivers!!!! grrrr. people like swedekid are gonna get pissed off because it doesnt "just work".
[06:08] <swedekid> where?
[06:08] <james__> hi everyone, im having the worst time trying to get php4 and apache2 to work... for some reason i dont know where php4 is installed and apache is just sending the php files to my browser
[06:08] <|Kamen|> Falstius: the filename is wine
[06:08] <sorcerer> FreonTrip: umm pentium 4 3.2 1024 ram nvidia 6600 and umm 15 gig on th ubuntu partition
[06:08] <FreonTrip> wj32:  No arguments there. :-\
[06:08] <Sean> eck: Only error I see is something about moduli not existing. Can you look and see if you have one of those (located /etc/ssh/muduli)
[06:08] <Falstius> |Kamen|: just wine?
[06:08] <|Kamen|> yes, just wine
[06:08] <FreonTrip> sorcerer:  you should have no issues, really.  What driver are you using for the 6600?
[06:08] <Falstius> you're trying to run it?  Try ./wine
[06:09] <sorcerer> umm the nvidia driver
[06:09] <|Kamen|> tried. no dice
[06:09] <eck> Sean: oh. i think you need to regenerate a new one
[06:09] <swedekid> Crazytom: where do i type that?
[06:09] <wj32> james__: why php4?
[06:09] <harbingdeth> is anyone ever on the wine channel?
[06:09] <Sean> eck: How?
[06:09] <sorcerer> how do i find out what drivers i have ..
[06:09] <FreonTrip> sorcerer:  Proprietary or open-source?
[06:09] <Crazytom> swedekid, in a terminal
[06:09] <Falstius> |Kamen|: what is the error message?
[06:09] <swedekid> oh ok
[06:09] <sorcerer> FreonTrip: umm how would i know the difeerennce coz iam new whats should i do
[06:09] <eck> Sean: that is one of the things you need to do asymmetric encryption... you probably need to use ssh-keygen, but i have not used it to generate server keys before
[06:09] <swedekid> ok done that
[06:09] <eck> Sean: i think if you delete your server ssh keys and restart openssh it will regenerate them
[06:09] <|Kamen|> error is bash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory
[06:10] <FreonTrip> sorcerer:  What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[06:10] <sorcerer> 6.10
[06:10] <wj32> |Kamen|: sudo apt-get install wine
[06:10] <Sean> eck: Not moduli, I have uninstalled, deleted and restarted etc. nonstop all day, that file hasn't returned.
[06:10] <|Kamen|> wont work. I'm running on amd64
[06:10] <FreonTrip> Haven't used that one... lemme think of the best way.
[06:10] <qsheets> Hi, I'm trying to setup a widescreen monitor and I have a Intel D865GBF mobo. I've tried 915resolution and it gave me an error.
[06:10] <swedekid> Crazytom: done
[06:10] <wj32> |Kamen|: oh damn
[06:10] <sorcerer> ok
[06:11] <Crazytom> swedekid, look for your wireless card and tell us what it is
[06:11] <gireesh> umm you can run 32bit wine on a 64bit install
[06:11] <eck> Sean: backup /etc/ssh/ssh_host* and then delete those files and restart it
[06:11] <|Kamen|> ok lemme take this from the top
[06:11] <Falstius> |Kamen|: you aren't doing something like chroot are you?
[06:11] <|Kamen|> I went by the guide found here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD64
[06:11] <FreonTrip> sorcerer:  Open a text editor.
[06:11] <harbingdeth> does anyone have extensive wine experience
[06:11] <james__> wj32, just trying to use the same software as my webserver... trying to do development offline
[06:11] <sorcerer> a text editot ... not terminal right
[06:11] <swedekid> Crazytom: how do i know when i find it?
[06:11] <FreonTrip> sorcerer:  Right.
[06:11] <|Kamen|> and ran into 2 errors. first, the lib32 folder didnt exist. so I created it and copied the files over. no problem
[06:11] <sorcerer> ok its open
[06:11] <sorcerer> now what
[06:12] <eck> Sean: this is sort of a guess on my part... but i know that with ssl certs things won't work if you lose the certificate moduli
[06:12] <FreonTrip> Open /etc/X11/xorg.conf .  Don't edit it or make any changes, just open it.
[06:12] <gireesh> harbingdeth: I have used it a lot
[06:12] <qsheets> I'm trying to setup a widescreen monitor and I have a Intel D865GBF mobo. I've tried 915resolution and it gave me an error
[06:12] <Crazytom> swedekid, lspci -v | grep Wireless
[06:12] <kneeki> Hmm
[06:12] <FreonTrip> sorcerer:  Then go to the section that starts with "Device".
[06:12] <wj32> james__: uh. i dont know.
[06:12] <GigaClon> how can I see if something is using the sound card?
[06:12] <harbingdeth> maybe you can help but I'm running SWG and the graphics go from smooth to choppy then back again
[06:13] <kneeki> I got an error: 'I've detected a panel already running, and will now stop' when I login. Any ideas on how to fix?
[06:13] <harbingdeth> how do I even them out
[06:13] <FreonTrip> Across from the Driver entry, it should say either "nv" or "nvidia".  Which does it say?
[06:13] <swedekid> 01:09.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) is what it says Crazytom
[06:13] <sorcerer> ok man its opened now
[06:13] <sorcerer> ?
[06:13] <|Kamen|> then when installing wine, I ran into a library dependancy error, libartsc0. again no problem, I installed the library and went to installw ine. this time I got an error saying ldconfig: /usr/lib32/libXxf86dga.so.1 is not a symbolic link
[06:13] <FreonTrip> Did you get my last instructions?
[06:14] <Sean> eck: Nope. It just pulls up errors now saying it can't find the host keys. I'll delete the /etc/ssh directory, reinstall using apt-get install openssh-server and see
[06:14] <|Kamen|> I do not know what that error means, but all of the wine files appear in place in usr/bin. I just cant execute them
[06:14] <Crazytom> swedekid, have you tried to install ndiswrapper?
[06:14] <wj32> kneeki: check your System -> Preferences -> Sessions for duplicated gnome-panels
[06:14] <swedekid> no
[06:14] <wj32> |Kamen|: sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/wine
[06:14] <kneeki> wj32: How can I do that w/o having any panels? I have nothing atm but my desktop and a few icons
[06:14] <swedekid> Crazytom: whats that?
[06:14] <ekis>  hello, i have a question! "if i don't want to listen the f**** BEEP sound when i type a wrong command" what i need to do?????? thanks.
[06:15] <Crazytom> swedekid, good you didn't then
[06:15] <wj32> |Kamen|: sudo mv /usr/lib32/libXxf86dga.so.1 /usr/lib32/libXxf86dga.so.99
[06:15] <eck> ekis: what terminal emulator are you using?
[06:15] <harbingdeth> gireesh; you still there?
[06:15] <wj32> |Kamen|: sudo ln /usr/lib32/libXxf86dga.so.99 /usr/lib32/libXxf86dga.so.1
[06:15] <|Kamen|> wj32: I can now execute wine after the chmod command. first time I've used it, what exactly did it do?
[06:15] <konam> someone knows why suddenly i can't retrieve the titles of my dvds on ubuntu 6.06.1
[06:15] <Crazytom> swedekid, do this open up syaptic and search for fwcutter install that package and be sure to check the box that says fetch and install firmware
[06:16] <swedekid> syaptic?
[06:16] <gireesh> yeah
[06:16] <ekis> eck: bash, ..... when i use 'csh' for example i don't get the "BEEP" sound when i put a wrong command, this only happens in bash terminal
[06:16] <rollercoaster> I have a trivial problem...I can play video and audio files on ubuntu properly...however, if I try to play some video on some online site like youtube.com, I see the video but don't get any audio? Why is it so?
[06:16] <|Kamen|> bah, wait a sec....did it on the wrong bloody box
[06:16] <eck> ekis: that is your shell, not your terminal emulator
[06:16] <wj32> |Kamen|: it gives the file execute permissions so you can run it
[06:16] <gireesh> whatcha want to know harbingdeth
[06:16] <ekis> eck: Eterm 0.9.2
[06:16] <ekis> sorry
[06:16] <newguyintown> can someone help me.... gurb is being dumb... i needed to change hd0 to hd1... just to get grub to find ubuntu... no here is the hard part... i have windows installed twice on two partishions but it is only booting one
[06:16] <wj32> |Kamen|: btw do this: sudo chmod a+x /usr/bin/wine
[06:16] <kneeki> wj32: How can I do that w/o having any panels? I have nothing atm but my desktop and a few icons
[06:16] <eck> ekis: not sure then, but it is definitely controlled by the terminal
[06:16] <wj32> |Kamen|: forgot the a+
[06:16] <swedekid> Crazytom: found someone who i know that will walk me threw it over the phone, if i need additional help ill talk to you
[06:17] <wj32> kneeki: dunno... sorry
[06:17] <harbingdeth> is there anyway to even out the graphics for a game running in wine?
[06:17] <eck> _maybe_ if you disable the pcspkr module
[06:17] <FreonTrip> sorcerer:  Still there?
[06:17] <gireesh> newguyintown: what error do you get? are you chainloading the windows partitions?
[06:17] <ekis> if i use csh with "set nobeep" it works fine ..... but bash :S
[06:17] <Crazytom> i could probably have you running in like 20 secs if you do that
[06:17] <gireesh> harbingdeth: even out?
[06:17] <sorcerer> FreonTrip: umm it says "nvidia"
[06:17] <ybtio> I just downloaded ubuntu, and I can't get the command ndiswrapper to work, any reason for this?
[06:17] <FreonTrip> OK, so you are running the closed-source drivers...
[06:17] <sorcerer> sorry it was a bit slow
[06:17] <|Kamen|> wj32: the chmod command does not throw an error, but when trying to run wine, it again gives me file not found
[06:17] <Crazytom> swedekid, you're soo close
[06:18] <swedekid> Crazytom: ok
[06:18] <FreonTrip> sorcerer:  Not sure why it isn't instantaneous.  Are you using hardware-accelerated compositing?
[06:18] <harbingdeth> gireesh: they fluctuate from running smoothly to being choppy to the point of not being able to play
[06:18] <wj32> |Kamen|: /usr/bin/wine not found?
[06:18] <Crazytom> swedekid, just find that package and install it and you will probably be set up
[06:18] <newguyintown>  gireesh either option i go into hd1 or hd0 it always boot to the say windows parttition... my sata drive.. i want it to boot to my ide windows as well
[06:18] <|Kamen|> wj32: yup. chmod sees the file, but I still cant execute it
[06:18] <holst> Im having problem with cryptsetup in initrd (7.04; fesity fawn)
[06:18] <wj32> ybtio: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[06:19] <holst> it says it cannot find the source devie
[06:19] <gireesh> newguyintown: when you get to grub choose the line and hit e
[06:19] <holst> but when it drops to busybox promt; i can see /dev/sda5
[06:19] <swedekid> Crazytom: do you mean snymatic package manager?
[06:19] <gireesh> then look at what hard disk partition it is referring to
[06:19] <Crazytom> swedekid, yes
[06:19] <newguyintown> ok... then what?
[06:19] <gireesh> e.g. root (hd1,0)
[06:19] <wj32> |Kamen|: cd /usr/bin/; ./wine
[06:19] <ybtio> wj32, ok thank you
[06:19] <gireesh> chainloader +1
[06:19] <kneeki> I got an error: 'I've detected a panel already running, and will now stop' when I login. Any ideas on how to fix?
[06:20] <newguyintown> can i PM you and pate my grub info?
[06:20] <swedekid> Crazytom: how do i search for that?
[06:20] <|Kamen|> wj32: same error
[06:20] <wj32> !repeat | kneeki
[06:20] <ubotu> kneeki: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:20] <Sean> eck: Reinstalled, no new moduli file.
[06:20] <Falstius> |Kamen|: did you do chmod a+x or just +x?
[06:20] <gireesh> yes
[06:20] <yamathan> Oh dear.
[06:20] <Guest_750> Partitions - Boot to Ubuntu - Open Terminal - Type fdisk -l - you get list of partitions in order
[06:20] <eck> ekis: oh, apparently you can configure it as a readline setting
[06:20] <Crazytom> swedekid, did you open synaptic?
[06:20] <wj32> Falstius: I told |Kamen| to do a chmod a+x
[06:20] <yamathan> What's this about 403 forbidden with this new linux-image file?
[06:21] <eck> ekis: http://listserver.uk.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-users/2000-November/002642.html
[06:21] <|Kamen|> wj32: a+x
[06:21] <swedekid> gimme a minute tom
[06:21] <FreonTrip> /leave
[06:21] <ybtio> anybody famaliar with slax?
[06:21] <sorcerer> FreonTrip: umm how do i check that sorrt my mouse gets stuck that why i respod slow
[06:21] <ekis> eck: let me check .... thanks ! :)
[06:21] <Falstius> wj32: I wasn't paying attention, I thought maybe he missed the a+ part :)
[06:21] <ravi_master> irc://irc.utorrent.com/utorrent-webui
[06:21] <Sean> eck: Reinstalled, no new moduli file.
[06:21] <gireesh> newguyintown: what hard disk and partition are your windows on?
[06:21] <eck> ekis: you might just want to set it system-wide, there is a readline config file somewhere in /etc
[06:22] <eck> /etc/inputrc
[06:22] <newguyintown> gireesh you get my pm?
[06:22] <wj32> Falstius: weird, it gives a file not found while trying to run /usr/bin/wine, but chmod a+x /usr/bin/wine works.
[06:22] <gireesh> newguyintown: nope..prolly not registered. can you pastebin it?
[06:22] <|Kamen|> heh. this definately has me skritching my head. could it have something to do with the "not a symbolic link" error I got while installing wine?
[06:22] <newguyintown> yeah one sec
[06:22] <jackyli> diao
[06:22] <wj32> |Kamen|: no...
[06:22] <wj32> |Kamen|: actually, maybe.
[06:22] <ekis> eck: let me see wait ... :)
[06:23] <Falstius> wj32: it just isn't being found in the tree as an executable.
[06:23] <eck> Sean: weird... look at the man page for ssh-keygen
[06:23] <Sean> kj
[06:23] <Sean> k*
[06:23] <Falstius> er path
[06:23] <eck> Sean: there is a section on how to make a new one, but it is all gibberish to me
[06:23] <GekiBlue> If I have a DVD I burned files to in Windows with Nero as a multi-session disc, can I add on to it with gnomebaker?
[06:23] <wj32> Once upon a time I tried to link an assembly program with libc by doing ld -lc myprog.o.
[06:23] <Xenguy> eck: better to search for a 'tutorial' on the web
[06:23] <wj32> ./myprog
[06:23] <ekis> eck:  it works !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :DDDDDDDDDDDD thanks !!! a lot man !!!
[06:23] <newguyintown> paste bin is erroring server side
[06:23] <wj32> no permissions to run it
[06:23] <wj32> chmod +x myprog
[06:24] <odat> anyone having a problem with openoffice toolbar icons?
[06:24] <wj32> ./myprog
[06:24] <wj32> file not found
[06:24] <wj32> i was like wtf
[06:24] <wj32> i checked using ls
[06:24] <Xenguy> !enter
[06:24] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:24] <wj32> myprog was there...
[06:24] <wj32> Xenguy: sorry...
[06:24] <Sean> eck: lol k I see it I'll look at it.
[06:24] <Xenguy> wj32: no worries
[06:24] <wj32> Xenguy: im used to using enter
[06:24] <gireesh> newguyintown: can you paste the first line in grub for windows only?
[06:25] <Crazytom> swedekid, did you give up?
[06:25] <iamjk> has 'apache2-ssl-certificate' been replaced with a different command?
[06:25] <aldin> if i want to compile GTK or Qt apps, which packages i need... i would like some meta package which will solve this... i know for build-essential and libgtk2.0-dev, what more?
[06:25] <newguyintown> root		(hd0,0)
[06:25] <|Kamen|> wj32: that sounds like exactly the issue I am having
[06:25] <newguyintown> root		(hd1,0)
[06:25] <newguyintown> i have both
[06:25] <newguyintown> 2 diffrent windows
[06:25] <eck> aldin: apt-get build-dep for the package you are building
[06:26] <wj32> |Kamen|: the thing is, does bash say WHICH file is not found?
[06:26] <eck> aldin: it will pull in all the libraries you need
[06:26] <newguyintown> gireesh... thanks to canada http://pastebin.ca/439299
[06:26] <swedekid> Crazytom: almost
[06:26] <|Kamen|> wj32: ya, wine
[06:26] <aldin> eck: oops i didn say that if i get .tar.gz or tar.bz from other place... like source forge or gnome-look... i mean what if src is not in repos?
[06:27] <Crazytom> swedekid, find it in synaptic?
[06:27] <houmala> good help here.....http://lunapark6.com/?p=2501
[06:27] <gireesh> newguyintown: which one can you boot to?
[06:27] <aldin> eck: perhaps u are right i should try that for some GTK & QT app
[06:27] <|Kamen|> wj32: just tried the other wine commands, winecfg, winedump, etc... all return the same error that they arent found
[06:27] <wj32> |Kamen|: but "./wine: file not found" means that the error comes from the command "./wine". it could mean that ./wine cant find something
[06:27] <aldin> eck: that is already in repos
[06:27] <newguyintown> the sata drive or hd0,0
[06:27] <eck> aldin: just apt-get build-dep for something else, if it needs gtk apt-get build-dep whatever your favorite gtk application will be. it will pull in some extra stuff, but if it is your first time compiling you will need a lot of libraries anyway
[06:27] <|Kamen|> wj32: which means it could be that not a symbolic link error for the libraries
[06:28] <syberdave> hm i wonder what irc client quits with "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!"
[06:28] <swedekid> Crazytom: found a guy, gotta go to bed, doing it tomorrow
[06:28] <newguyintown> but not the IDE drive... even thow im running ubuntu right now on my sata drive
[06:28] <|Kamen|> lemme try somn...
[06:28] <newguyintown> opps i mean IDE
[06:28] <wj32> |Kamen|: yep
[06:28] <newguyintown> im running ubuntu on my ide drive
[06:28] <aldin> eck: thanks for tip!
[06:28] <gireesh> newguyintown: see that map command in the second windows entry?
[06:28] <newguyintown> yes
[06:28] <ybtio> Downloaded slax, killbill version, used ndiswrapper and installed my driver, got slax to recognize it, it still won't connect to the internet however, whats the prob?
[06:28] <wj32>  |Kamen|: sudo mv /usr/lib32/libXxf86dga.so.1 /usr/lib32/libXxf86dga.so.99
[06:28] <myeur0> hey can a wirless network screw up yout tv reception??????
[06:28] <wj32> |Kamen|: sudo ln /usr/lib32/libXxf86dga.so.99 /usr/lib32/libXxf86dga.so.1
[06:29] <gireesh> make a similar entry for the first one too
[06:29] <kiurro> ![M3] -WEED-500 02_hunter.mp3
[06:29] <newguyintown> gireesh do i have to edit that?
[06:29] <|Kamen|> ok hang on...
[06:29] <gireesh> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/map.html
[06:29] <wj32> a little hack that creates a link
[06:29] <gireesh> yes
[06:29] <Falstius> myeur0: not legally.
[06:29] <legos> woh lotsa people here....
[06:29] <Sean> Si
[06:29] <gireesh> and you shouldnt need the map command for the SATA disk but if it works well...
[06:30] <simpletron> hi
[06:30] <myeur0> wat if the  guy has my motem numbers
[06:30] <newguyintown> i dont have the map command for sata
[06:30] <newguyintown> gireesh.... so what should i put?
[06:30] <sorcerer> FreonTrip: you there
[06:30] <simpletron> hello, there is some way to reboot without support for sata disk?
[06:31] <wj32> |Kamen|: have you done sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[06:31] <newguyintown> o wait! not im confised as hell!@
[06:31] <gireesh> newguyintown: see http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/DOS_002fWindows.html#DOS_002fWindows
[06:31] <|Kamen|> wj32: those commands did not work. mv I know, but what was ln?
[06:31] <theTrav> ok, so I've finally installed the kde package, how do I switch to it from gnome?
[06:31] <wj32> |Kamen|: ln is create a link
[06:31] <wj32> !ln
[06:31] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:31] <gireesh> newguyintown: dont worry grub is easy to edit even while booting
[06:32] <d00d_> Host/Kernel/OS  "d00d-desktop" running Linux 2.6.15-28-386 i686 [ Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS ]
[06:32] <wj32> wwwhhhhatttt???
[06:32] <d00d_> CPU Info        Intel Core2 X6800 @ 4096 KB cache flags( sse sse2 nx lm pni vmx ) clocked at [ 1600.330 MHz ]
[06:32] <d00d_> Videocard       Unknown device 0191  X.Org 7.0.0  [ 1024x768 @50hz ]
[06:32] <d00d_> Network cards   Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit Ethernet Controller, at port: b000
[06:32] <d00d_> Processes 81 | Uptime 26min | Memory 157.3/2026.8MB | HDD WDC WD1600JB-00REA0 Size 245GB (6%used) | GLX Renderer GeForce 8800 GTX/PCI/SSE2 | GLX Version 2.1.0 NVIDIA 97.55 | Client X-Chat 2.6.6 | Infobash v2.60
[06:32] <eck> !pastebin | d00d_
[06:32] <ubotu> d00d_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:32] <gireesh> newguyintown: just add two more lines to your first entry for windows
[06:32] <GekiBlue> Oh, poo.
[06:32] <|Kamen|> wj32: I have followed this guide to the letter, nothing more, nothing less: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD64
[06:32] <newguyintown> so you are saying i dont need map for sata.... do if i del that part do u think it will fix it?
[06:32] <simpletron> hi how can i know if my ubuntu is using my 2 cpus (amd64x2 4200)?
[06:32] <gireesh> hold on
[06:32] <gireesh> /dev/hdc1?
[06:33] <wj32> |Kamen|: i've run out of ideas.
[06:33] <|Kamen|> wj32: I created the lib32 directory where it did not exist, aside from that the guide has been followed. I will install the ia32 now. standby
[06:33] <legos> VMWARE running WINXP question: how do you install nvidia vidcard drivers? it doesn't seem to pick up the vidcard for some reason.
[06:33] <gireesh> is that correct for the first version of WIndows?
[06:33] <gireesh> legos: you cannot
[06:33] <myeur0> is beta ubuntu any good?????
[06:33] <gireesh> VMWare emulates the hardware
[06:33] <gireesh> myeur0: I am running it here..works great
[06:33] <wj32> |Kamen|: which command failed? the mv or the ln?
[06:34] <newguyintown> i think hdc 1 is the one i cant get into
[06:34] <myeur0> does it update ok???
[06:34] <gireesh> newguyintown: I see your prblem now
[06:34] <newguyintown> good!
[06:34] <wj32> legos: 3d acceleration using VMware is very very experimental
[06:34] <newguyintown> cuz im confused as hell now
[06:34] <theTrav> ahh man, I was supposed to get the kubuntu-desktop package wasn't I :/
[06:34] <gireesh> just change the (hd0,0) entry for that to (hd2,0)
[06:34] <Xenguy> ???????????
[06:34] <newguyintown> really???
[06:34] <newguyintown> i only got 2 hdds
[06:34] <|Kamen|> wj32: we may have a winner with that last one. wine is now giving me its help screen
[06:35] <gireesh> and one DVD/CD drive?
[06:35] <newguyintown> i got 2 dvd
[06:35] <|Kamen|> wj32: neither the mv or ln command failed
[06:35] <eck> newguyintown: look at /boot/grub/device.map
[06:35] <wj32> |Kamen|: ok thats good
[06:35] <gireesh> ok hdc resolves to hd2 if I am not mistaken
[06:35] <eck> it will show you the mappings
[06:35] <peepsalot> does anyone know of a simple text based calculator?
[06:35] <wj32> |Kamen|: what help screen?
[06:35] <wj32> peepsalot: bc or dc
[06:35] <GekiBlue> Well... That didn't work... and now the drive can't read the DVD.
[06:35] <gireesh> or maybe try first with (hd1,0)
[06:35] <Xenguy> peepsalot: bc ?
[06:35] <yamathan> Oh dear.
[06:35] <newguyintown> (hd0)   /dev/hdc
[06:35] <newguyintown> (hd1)   /dev/sda
[06:36] <eck> peepsalot: you can use bash for integer arithmetic :-)
[06:36] <|Kamen|> wj32: the one you get when you just type wine, without a program name. which means wine is beign found and executed
[06:36] <yamathan> To quote (and probably to spam):  Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-14-386_2.6.20-14.23_i386.deb: 403 Forbidden
[06:36] <gireesh> newguyintown: ahhh!!!!
[06:36] <yamathan> Well isn't THAT dandy.
[06:36] <yamathan> Why would I be getting a 403 error on a Recommended Update?
[06:36] <gireesh> so hdaa and hdb are DVD/CDs?
[06:36] <wj32> |Kamen|: try winecfg
[06:36] <yell0w> yamathan, the system hates you
[06:36] <yell0w> >_>
[06:36] <newguyintown> yeah
[06:37] <|Kamen|> wj32: we've got a pulse
[06:37] <yamathan> Yes, I suppose it would hate me.
[06:37] <wj32> |Kamen|: is it really really slow?
[06:37] <newguyintown> gireesh.... what do i do??
[06:37] <|Kamen|> wj32: dunno, have not tried it with a game. winecfg did send a few errors to the temrinal before opening but came up fairly quick
[06:37] <wj32> .
[06:38] <gireesh> newguyintown: maybe you could try putting in map (hd1) (hd0) and map (hd0) (hd1) for the first entry too
[06:38] <myeur0> well poop
[06:38] <wj32> |Kamen|: wine has heaps of warnings and errors. doesn't matter that much
[06:38] <newguyintown> ok ill give that a go
[06:38] <yamathan> But ...
[06:38] <yamathan> 403?
[06:38] <gireesh> you can add those lines while booting up newguyintown
[06:38] <yamathan> An update that apparently update-manager is getting, but is 403'ed serverside?
[06:38] <gireesh> dont make changes to menu.lst yet
[06:38] <wj32> yamathan: happens with me as well. i just tried.
[06:39] <yamathan> Strange, huh?
[06:39] <wj32> yamathan: contact an offical ubuntu guy.
[06:39] <|Kamen|> wj32: the only one that concerns me is it failed to load a lib for a builtin dll, due to it being a wrong ELF class (what does this mean?) the rest are gripes about it not being able to make a temp ini file
[06:39] <yamathan> Oh, how do I get a hold of an Official Canonical guy?
[06:39] <eck> yamathan: read the topic in #ubuntu+1
[06:39] <gireesh> wrong elf means wrong architecture
[06:39] <myeur0> yahoo kentucky5 people suck
[06:39] <gireesh> ie 32bit vs 64bit conflict
[06:39] <|Kamen|> ah. no surprise there
[06:40] <gireesh> yeah
[06:40] <newguyintown> if im not back in 3 min it means it woked and thanks!!!!
[06:40] <ekis> eck: thanks .... http://ekis.bsdlatino.org
[06:40] <wj32> |Kamen|: start testing some windows progs!
[06:40] <|Kamen|> indeed
[06:40] <aldin> !w32codecs
[06:40] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[06:40] <eck> eck: cool :-)
[06:40] <|Kamen|> if it blows up, I'll be back. if not, thanks for the help guys!
[06:40] <wj32> your welcome
[06:41] <wj32> *you're welcome
[06:41] <aldin> !Codecs
[06:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:41] <|Kamen|> and whether it works or not, I learned a couple new commands, so its all good :)
[06:41] <yamathan> Thank you, eck.
[06:42] <wj32> hello?
[06:42] <wj32> mmm......
[06:42] <NickNoze> Ah, hello everyone
[06:42] <wj32> hello
[06:42] <NickNoze> I tried to install ubuntu andran into a bit of rouble
[06:42] <wj32> Tag!
[06:43] <tooth> flip the cd . :-)
[06:43] <NickNoze> it installedfine as far as I can see, but when I boot, I get GRUB error 18
[06:43] <NickNoze> which means my BIOS don't understand that my hard drive is big.
[06:43] <legos-winxp> Can anyone version this nickname please, I would like to know the ouput
[06:43] <wj32> i don't know (maybe im just too tired) :(
[06:44] <wj32> bye
[06:44] <deepsa> legos-winxp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:44] <NickNoze> so, is it possible to move partitions without destroying them?
[06:44] <gireesh> NickNoze: have you tried changing drive types in your BIOS?
[06:44] <NickNoze> no
[06:45] <gireesh> e.g. LBA, Auto etc?
[06:45] <Nubbie> hey guys, i'm having a big problem updating feisty.... there is apparently a new kernel available, but the download fails because of an http error 403: ip forbidden. is anybody else experiencing a similar problem or know of a solution?
[06:45] <NickNoze> let me go to bios
[06:45] <gireesh> for your HDD change the settings to either or
[06:45] <deepsa> Nubbie: /join #ubuntu+1
[06:45] <gireesh> like if LBA change to Auto and vice versa
[06:45] <TheMystic> so, a feisty RC is hung waiting for SATA fixes?
[06:46] <Nubbie> deepsa: thank you kindly sir :)
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> TheMystic: #ubuntu+1
[06:46] <Nubbie> deepsa: it appears they already know about this big time.
[06:46] <deepsa> Nubbie: np man
[06:46] <waaaaw> hi
[06:46] <legos> VMWARE running WINXP question: how do you install sound drivers for winxp running in vmware?
[06:46] <deepsa> hi
[06:47] <waaaaw> how r  all?
[06:47] <deepsa> legos: install vmware tools
[06:47] <deepsa> waaaaw: fine man what abt you
[06:47] <Nubbie> legos: no
[06:47] <waaaaw> am fine
[06:47] <waaaaw> thx for asking :)
[06:47] <deepsa> waaaaw: there's a storm in austin,TX
[06:47] <Nubbie> legos: vmware's virtual hardware is extremely basic, and windows should have the drivers for it.
[06:48] <Xenguy> Nubbie: vmtools ?
[06:48] <waaaaw> really?
[06:48] <deepsa> waaaaw: yeah i am here and it's hitting hard out here
[06:48] <waaaaw> iam new user for ubuntu
[06:49] <Nubbie> Xenguy: to have accellerated sound/video on the host then yeah...
[06:49] <legos> anyone know the painless way to install vmware tools?
[06:49] <NickNoze> gireesh: I don't seem to be able to change LBA
[06:49] <Xenguy> Nubbie: it needs to be installed AFAICT
[06:49] <deepsa> NickNoze: gireesh Kumar Bhat is no more here
[06:49] <waaaaw> guys
[06:49] <Nubbie> deepsa: so the error 403 was them blocking the update after realizing it was breaking all systems using SATA. dodged a major bullet.
[06:49] <deepsa> waaaaw: dont use ubuntu use ubuntu fiesty
[06:49] <waaaaw> is there any program to play video with subtitles?
[06:49] <Xenguy> legos: try virtualbox instead :-)
[06:49] <waaaaw> iam using it
[06:50] <deepsa> Nubbie: ya friday 13th bad friday
[06:50] <Nubbie> deepsa: yeah guy thats really freaky... 5 days before release no less.
[06:51] <deepsa> ubuntu fiesty release has been now scheduled for 28th april all of you please listen
[06:51] <NickNoze> OK, anybody, my bios only support drivesup to 137GB. My ubuntu install is on a partition outside of that range, thus GRUB throws an error. Any ideas on how I can boot?
[06:51] <IndyGunFreak> deepsa, where di dyou read/hear that?
[06:51] <NickNoze> I have a windows install at the beginning of the drive.
[06:52] <Nubbie> NickNoze: you need an extended partition.
[06:52] <IndyGunFreak> sorry to hear that
[06:52] <Nubbie> NickNoze: kinda like in windows.
[06:52] <NickNoze> ok.
[06:52] <Kano64> hi, when will be the next final out?
[06:52] <NickNoze> Any idea how I would find out how to do that?
[06:52] <Nubbie> NickNoze: but wait, you might have some BIOS feature that you may be able to use instead.
[06:53] <NickNoze> Nubbie: ok.
[06:53] <Squall> Hi everybody, need some help with a TV card
[06:53] <IndyGunFreak> Squall, just state the problem
[06:53] <NickNoze> Nubbie: I don'thave much experience foolingwith BIOS, do you havea suggestion?
[06:54] <IndyGunFreak> NickNoze, what are you trying to do, partition your main drive?
[06:54] <NickNoze> no, I would like to setup a dualboot
[06:54] <Squall> I got a Pinnacle PCTV 110i, but i cant get it to work with TVtime or Xine
[06:55] <Kano64> Squall: try kaffeine for digital, dont forget to install the needed package for mpeg2 codec
[06:55] <NickNoze> right now, I am just trying to boot.
[06:55] <aldin> eck: thanks again for the tip build-dep i got amsn 0.96 and other apps compiled...
[06:55] <IndyGunFreak> NickNoze, did you just try booting the live cd?
[06:56] <NickNoze> I can boot thelive CD
[06:56] <IndyGunFreak> NickNoze, ok.
[06:56] <IndyGunFreak> so whats the prob/
[06:56] <NickNoze> I suppose I can try to repartition from there.
[06:56] <phr0ze> his bios only recognizes 127GB
[06:56] <Squall> its analog TV
[06:56] <acidtabs> can anyone help me trying to get AIM to work i belive that i got installed but how would you go about running it?
[06:56] <Kano64> Squall: then: rmmod saa7134
[06:56] <IndyGunFreak> NickNoze, that, or download gparted and use it.
[06:57] <Kano64> Squall:   modprobe saa7134 card=77
[06:57] <NickNoze> ok, I'll give it a try
[06:57] <NickNoze> thank
[06:57] <IndyGunFreak> acidtabs, aim?.. does AIM have a Linux version?
[06:57] <Kano64> Squall:  is the same card as mentioned here: http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Pinnacle_PCTV_50i
[06:57] <Arkadius> gaim
[06:57] <acidtabs> yea the one that i was looking at
[06:58] <acidtabs> it seemed to install
[06:58] <IndyGunFreak> acidtabs, are you talking about GAIM, or AIM?..
[06:58] <acidtabs> AIM
[06:58] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[06:58] <phr0ze> err. pidgon
[06:58] <IndyGunFreak> i didn't knowit had a Linux client, thats all
[06:58] <IndyGunFreak> phr0ze, lol, forgot about that.... that'll take some getting used to
[06:58] <acidtabs> its kool
[06:59] <acidtabs> im kinda frustrated
[06:59] <compengi> !seen DBO
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen dbo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <IndyGunFreak> acidtabs, why do't you just set up your AIM account through GAIM or Kopete?
[06:59] <Kano64> Squall: i usually prefer using dvb cards together with vdr
[07:00] <Kano64> Squall: much cooler
[07:00] <sorcerer> hey guys i have a question regarding mp3 files .. see i have a huge collection of .. mp3 .. and umm i wanna play them .. when i import .. it into teh library on rythmbox .. not all the albums or songs are shown in them .. i also installed easyubuntu
[07:00] <Squall> Kano, it doesnt work either
[07:00] <acidtabs> i could but the problem is the s/n that i have won't work with gaim
[07:00] <IndyGunFreak> acidtabs, why is that?
[07:01] <IndyGunFreak> if it works with AIM, why does it not work with GAIM?
[07:01] <Squall> do i just need to execute modprobe saa7134 card=77 any app to test?
[07:01] <acidtabs> i used to have aol but know im using the "free version"
[07:01] <Kano64> Squall: the overrides the autodetection, you can force that with
[07:01] <IndyGunFreak> acidtabs, that should work.
[07:01] <acidtabs> i have an older s/n but i don't use it anymore and that one worked with gaim
[07:01] <orangey> hey all!
[07:01] <sorcerer> why dont all my mp3 show up /
[07:01] <Falstius> IndyGunFreak: I think he means you can't take your AOL s/n with you (note, not AIM but AOL)
[07:02] <Kano64> Squall: echo options saa7134 card=77 > /etc/modprobe.d/saa7134-fix
[07:02] <wj32> hi
[07:02] <wj32> im back
[07:02] <Kano64> Squall: that would work on reboot too
[07:02] <Voxxi> sorcerer - How many are missing?
[07:02] <IndyGunFreak> Falstius, i seem to recall reading, that now, after you cancel your AOL account, you can keep your screen name/email addy, and access them via AIM and AOL.com
[07:02] <sorcerer> umm kinda alot like whole album or more
[07:02] <sorcerer> coz i looked for some and it didntr show up
[07:02] <Squall> permission denied
[07:02] <Kano64> Squall: for tvtime you need xv support btw. maybe begin with xawtv/ scantv > .xawtv
[07:03] <Kano64> Squall: "sudo -i" before ;)
[07:03] <Sean> eck: Still nothing, any more ideas?
[07:03] <Squall> i did
[07:03] <Kano64> impossible
[07:03] <bjv> Apt-get dist-upgrade keeps installing these graphics devel packages I once explicitly installed. Apt-get autoremove also takes them away automatically.
[07:04] <bjv> i dont want or need them, something is awry with the installation flagging, right?
[07:04] <Voxxi> sorcerer - the tags might be formed wrong, try sorting the songs by artist, and looking under "Unknown"
[07:04] <bjv> has anyone else noticed these problems with development packages?
[07:04] <IndyGunFreak> acidtabs, why don't youu just create a new name via AOL.com, and use it.
[07:04] <cora> Hey guys...okay after seacrhing on the internet and seeing people were having trouble...I was able to get the Netgear WG311V3 wireless card for PC working in dapper. The procedure is identical to a debian post, and works well so far with WPA.
[07:05] <nalpha> guys.. i'm tryng to create auto shutdown for my client with (crontab -u my_client -e) and put 50 11 * * * /sbin/shutdown -h and restart the crontab, but nothing happened, is this cause the shutdown command only can be executed by root? so how to make the script running when my client log in? example dwi... thanx alot all friend
[07:05] <cora> where is a best place to post an addendum?
[07:05] <sorcerer> umm only one of the songs from the album were shows ..
[07:05] <sorcerer> under unknown
[07:05] <Nubbie> everybody here should ditch AOL because they screwed gaim over.
[07:06] <santiago> hola
[07:06] <Voxxi> sorcerer : are all your mp3 in one folder?
[07:06] <acidtabs> i could but i hate signing up again i wanted to keep my main one
[07:06] <Squall> i did: sudo -i echo options saa7134 card=77 > /etc/modprobe.d/saa7134-fi
[07:06] <BSG75> anyone know of any program that can be used to convert mpg files to avi .. it has to be very very simple .. basically select a bunch of mpg files and click button and get avi files of the selected files
[07:06] <sorcerer> yeah
[07:06] <acidtabs> so it kinda seems its a lost cause : (
[07:06] <Squall> it returned: bash: /etc/modprobe.d/saa7134-fix: Permission denied
[07:07] <White_Lightning> how do I find out the address of the DHCP server that gave me my IP? ifconfig doesn't show it
[07:07] <Nubbie> BSG75: avidemux ?
[07:07] <sorcerer> under the music fgolder and then they branch into different .. folders like .. hip-hop .. trance and what not
[07:07] <sorcerer> but all under one big .. FOLDER called Music ..
[07:07] <IndyGunFreak> acidtabs, i don't know, youcan probably use it through GAIM, provided you use your password and sccreen name
[07:07] <sorcerer> which i imported to rythmbox
[07:07] <Kano64> Squall: sudo -i gives you interative root prompt
[07:07] <Falstius> BSG75: you could write a small script to do it with mencoder.
[07:07] <Nubbie> sorcerer: see if you have better luck with banshee ;)
[07:07] <BSG75> thank u I will try it .. it's for me wife .. it has to be very efficient and slick :)
[07:08] <Kano64> Squall: then you dont need to put sudo in front of every command which i would say is pretty useless
[07:08] <BSG75> I just run script that I have written up
[07:08] <BSG75> LOL u beat me to it
[07:08] <wj32> quodlibet!
[07:08] <Nubbie> banshee!
[07:08] <bjv> i guess the full symptoms would be: 1) i installed the -dev package, 2) i removed the -dev package, 3) dist-upgrade now tries to reinstall it everytime i update, 4) autoremove takes the package away everytime i run it.
[07:08] <Voxxi> sorcerer : I would try another music player, and see if the problem still exists. amarok has always worked well for me.
[07:08] <Nubbie> amarok is dirty QT program.
[07:09] <Squall> lol, what a shame :(
[07:09] <Nubbie> theres another program written in GTK that functions like amarok though
[07:09] <wastrel> dirty
[07:09] <bjv> the devel packages, there are like 5 of them that wont stay uninstalled, they are from 2 separate attempts at removing them
[07:09] <wj32> exile
[07:09] <acidtabs> i got it
[07:09] <Nubbie> yeah thats it.
[07:09] <Nubbie> :)
[07:09] <acidtabs> working
[07:09] <acidtabs> ehh
[07:09] <Nubbie> only banshee works with my MTP player though.
[07:09] <acidtabs> its case sensitive
[07:09] <sorcerer> so what do you guys suggest i get ..
[07:09] <bjv> anyone know how i might make the package system make them ~stay~ removed? ive only ever seen this with these -dev packages
[07:09] <sorcerer> as a music player?
[07:09] <Nubbie> sorcerer: try them all :)
[07:10] <acidtabs> n/m
[07:10] <IndyGunFreak> acidtabs, lol, well duh
[07:10] <Nubbie> sorcerer: but i personally suggest banshee.
[07:10] <Voxxi> sorcerer : we can't tell you, just try each and then work out which you like best
[07:10] <daniel_uc> ok
[07:10] <wj32> sorcerer: rhythmbox (sucks), amarok, quodlibet, listen, exile, banshee
[07:10] <Voxxi> nubbie : I might check out banshee now, looks much nicer than amarok
[07:11] <Nubbie> sorcerer: theres muine too, but i dunno about that so much.
[07:11] <sorcerer> umm ok .. so iam new .. so to install .. it do i do it command line or synaptic .. whats better for me
[07:11] <Nubbie> (disclaimer: i secretly recruit people to use banshee for aaron bockover)
[07:11] <sorcerer> and stuff coz i really like ubuntu even though after three days of errors and 3 .. reformats !~!!!!
[07:11] <Voxxi> sudo apt-get install banshee
[07:11] <Voxxi> sudo apt-get install amarok
[07:11] <Nubbie> remove amarok *** you meant
[07:11] <Nubbie> :)
[07:11] <DigitalDeviant> anyone familiar with openoffice database forms?
[07:12] <Nubbie> !anyone | DigitalDeviant
[07:12] <ubotu> DigitalDeviant: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:12] <orange1> what does "lsmod | grep ieee80211" do?
[07:12] <Voxxi> nubbie : I'm trying banshee out now, I'll let you know :P
[07:12] <wj32> do geeks use productivity database software?
[07:13] <wj32> i thought geeks used mysql with mysqladmin or something
[07:13] <Nubbie> wj32: surprisingly some regular people use linux now.
[07:13] <NickNoze> Is it possible to move a partition?
[07:13] <wj32> Nubbie: i find that fact hard to accept :)
[07:13] <DigitalDeviant> :) next question, using a form wizard after creating my db it doesnt seem as if I can make the form any larger.
[07:13] <NickNoze> to be later on a drive
[07:13] <wj32> NickNoze: try GParted
[07:13] <Nubbie> NickNoze: if it's not mounted and there's enough room around it, yeah go for it.
[07:13] <sorcerer> downloading banshee ..
[07:13] <Voxxi> wj32 : My grandmother uses linux, seriously.
[07:13] <DigitalDeviant> I should be able to just scroll down in the form editor right?
[07:13] <sorcerer> is it anything like i-tunes?
[07:14] <Nubbie> DigitalDeviant: why don't you check in with the OpenOffice support.
[07:14] <Nubbie> sorcerer: don't let anybody in #banshee hear you say that.
[07:14] <wj32> Voxxi: grandmothers just can't deal with the stress of product activation
[07:14] <Nubbie> sorcerer: inspired originally by itunes, made much better since then.
[07:15] <Deeply> Hello
[07:15] <Raz> Hi, I just burnt a copy of 6.10 to install on my new comp, but it won't boot. 'Failed to start the X Server'. Core 2 Duo, NVidia 8800, 965P chipset
[07:15] <Deeply> ditto
[07:15] <wj32> sorcerer: try quodlibet in browser mode!
[07:15] <sorcerer> Nubbie:  ooops .. lol
[07:15] <Deeply> what Raz said
[07:15] <Deeply> AMD 3700+ ATI Radeon X800 Pro
[07:15] <bjv> Problem: The packages: mesa-common-dev, libartsc0-dev, & libopenexr-dev still will not stay uninstalled
[07:16] <acidtabs> how do get wine running i installed it through add/remove but i does not show up in applications?
[07:16] <wj32> Raz & Deeply: any more detail with the error messages
[07:16] <denys> hey, is there some special way to connect to wireless networks that are not broadcasting? (assuming i have the SSID and the password) Because I just can't seem to connect to my school netwrok if i just put the SSID and password in the network settings. Yet i can connect easily if i boot from my windows partition.
[07:16] <sorcerer> umm guys .. its importing but on the side i can see .. 33 import errors what the hell ??
[07:16] <bjv> acidtabs: winecfg is a graphical app.  wine is pretty much run through the command line, though?
[07:16] <Deeply> hmmm, can't remember, but it said that it could not start the X server
[07:16] <wj32> acidtabs: wine doesn't have an interface for installing and uninstalling programs yet.
[07:17] <Raz> it says no monitor found or somewuch
[07:17] <Voxxi> sorcerer : my guess would be corruption
[07:17] <Raz> ive tried graphic safe mode and that has same result
[07:17] <sorcerer> ok corruption meaning ?
[07:17] <Nubbie> denys make sure you're using the right authentication.
[07:17] <Deeply> i checked the cd for errors, burnt it at 4x
[07:17] <sorcerer> is there anything i can do about this
[07:17] <wj32> Raz & Deeply: wait for others; i dunno
[07:17] <Deeply> using alcohol 120%
[07:17] <acidtabs> ty so much bjv and wj32
[07:18] <Raz> are there any known issues with 8800 and ubuntu?
[07:18] <Voxxi> sorcerer : does it give any other information?
[07:18] <Deeply> thank you. meanwhile, I can run it again and get exact error messages
[07:18] <acidtabs> bjv thanks for the winecfg
[07:18] <wj32> Raz: uh, probably not.
[07:18] <bjv> should i bother #debian with this? certain -dev packages will not stay removed
[07:18] <Deeply> be right back
[07:18] <wj32> Raz: if it really really decides not to work, try the alternate cd
[07:18] <wj32> !alternate
[07:18] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[07:19] <Bales> hey guys, anyone know anything about Cedega? Their room is completely dead and I have a problem with it
[07:19] <denys> you mean hexadecimal vs ASCII? well i tried both and it didnt work...
[07:19] <sorcerer> Voxxi: yeah it does
[07:19] <zilly6__> I'd like to say, thank you ubuntu for getting Sleep on my laptop right
[07:19] <Kano64> Squall: does it work now
[07:19] <zilly6__> that is all
[07:19] <Raz> can I do a text install with the cd I have, or do I need to download another iso
[07:19] <wj32> Bales: yes, please state your question.
[07:19] <Bales> wj32: I'm trying to install BF2142, and everytime I try, it comes up with an md5error....but then if I click retry, it just keeps going....
[07:20] <wj32> Raz: sadly you can't do a text install with the livecd. on second thoughts, getting an altcd will be pointless because installing it will probably give the same error.
[07:20] <sorcerer> Voxxi: umm it says import errors .. 81 and then in the right windows shows the files that had erros
[07:20] <wj32> Bales: does it work on windows?
[07:20] <Bales> wj32: The problem is that when I try to patch the game, it always fails, and I think the two are somehow connected
[07:20] <Bales> wj32
[07:20] <Bales> wj32: yes
[07:20] <sorcerer> Voxxi: is there anything you can see to help me ?
[07:20] <wj32> wj32: what is giving the md5error?
[07:20] <wj32> *Bales:
[07:20] <Bales> wj32: a client.zip file
[07:20] <Raz> is there any way I can look at the error logs and tell what is missing?
[07:20] <wj32> Bales: cedega or the actual game?
[07:21] <Bales> wj32: Oh I believe the game
[07:21] <Bales> wj32: yeah, the game, because it happens as part of the installation
[07:21] <wj32> Bales: mmm. again, i dont know. better to wait for someone else
[07:21] <Voxxi> sorcerer : I would say its corruption, if that's the case, I don't know what else to do, sorry.
[07:21] <mzanfardino>  I'm looking to convert a video formated for PAL into NTSC.  Is there a utilty to do this?
[07:22] <Bales> WJ32: alright, thanks anyway
[07:22] <sorcerer> Voxxi: thats a realk dissapointment that linux is kinda bad in that aspect ,.,...
[07:22] <wj32> sorry for my n00bness, but whats the difference between PAL and NTSC?
[07:22] <Raz> "no screens found"
[07:22] <sorcerer> Voxxi: i hate windows . but .. media is a big thing
[07:23] <clearzen> sorcerer: What are you trying to do?
[07:23] <bjv> i did dpkg -purge -deconfigure-parent-packages on several graphics-development packages.
[07:24] <Pally> howto know which packages depend on a specific package?
[07:24] <mzanfardino> wj32: basic difference in in the aspect ratio of the video and the frame rate.
[07:24] <bjv> upon running apt-get dist-upgrade next, they are reselected for installation. what gives?
[07:24] <sorcerer> clearzen: well see i hgavea hug collection of mp3 .. under one folder right .. but when import them into banshee .. it imports them buit not everything and have me like 70 import errors while adding it to my library
[07:24] <bjv> Pally: apt-cache rdepends NAMEOFPACK
[07:24] <wj32> mzanfardino: ahh, thanks
[07:24] <denys> what is the difference between SSID and ESSID?
[07:24] <Pally> thanks bjv, lemme try
[07:25] <bjv> Pally: im currently fightin' with some of this stuff right now
[07:25] <clearzen> sorcerer: I see, are you using banshee for the ipod right
[07:25] <bjv> running apt-get dist-upgrade keeps reselecting these packages fro installation. :|
[07:25] <mzanfardino> wj32: PAL has a frame rate of 25fps and an aspect ratio of 352*576 or 720*576 or 704*576
[07:25] <Pally> bjv, I heard debfoster is not bad
[07:25] <bjv> you think purging them and deconfiguring their parents would be enough. :|
[07:25] <sorcerer> umm no using it for the ipod ..
[07:25] <Deeply> Back
[07:25] <Deeply> I got the error messages
[07:25] <sorcerer> just to listen to my music iam making ubuntu my everyday system now
[07:25] <Nubbie> sorcerer: banshee works great with ipods. if you've used itunes 7.1 you MUST use banshee 0.12.1
[07:25] <mzanfardino> wj32: and NTSC is usually at 23.976 or 29.97 with aspect ratios of 352*480 or 720*480 or 704*480
[07:25] <Deeply> No Screen Found
[07:25] <sorcerer> well kinda giving it a shot
[07:25] <clearzen> sorcerer: do you have the mp3 codecs for your system installed?
[07:26] <wj32> mzanfardino: isn't 25fps kinda crap? most people recommend >30fps.
[07:26] <Nubbie> the human eye can detect individual frames up until 28 fps. roughly.
[07:26] <mzanfardino> wj32: remember, we are talking about TV broadcast standards, not general playback rates you can just change
[07:26] <sorcerer> umm i have banshee 0.11.1
[07:26] <wj32> mzanfardino: ok
[07:26] <Squall> Kano64 are u there?
[07:26] <mzanfardino> Nubbie: closer to 30, but milage may very
[07:26] <Deeply> No Screen Found
[07:26] <clearzen> sorcerer:Try installing these, it should work
[07:26] <clearzen> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly \     gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse \     gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[07:26] <sorcerer> clearzen: yeah i used easyubunt ..
[07:27] <Deeply> PCI Mach64 In Slot 1:0:0 could not be detected
[07:27] <Deeply> PCI Mach64 In Slot 1:0:1 could not be detected
[07:27] <wj32> !repeat
[07:27] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:27] <clearzen> sorcerer: just to make sure you have everything
[07:27] <gnahhh> somehow it kicked me out but i'm still logged in as crazytom.
[07:27] <sorcerer> ok ill run it now
[07:27] <gnahhh> billy, thanks vlc is working
[07:27] <Pathogen246> Anyone know of a way to virus scan a windows partition from a linux partition?
[07:27] <DigitalDeviant> is anyone aware of any bugs with the form editor in open office?
[07:27] <wj32> Pathogen246: try clamav
[07:28] <zani> hey duds from where can i download screenlets
[07:28] <sorcerer> clearzen: hey man even though i have . um easyubuntu does it matter ?
[07:28] <mzanfardino> the thing is, even knowing the fps and aspect ratio, I don't think I can just blithly change them when encoding an MPG file and expect the output to truly have been converted... hence my seeking a utility
[07:28] <Deeply> wj32: is that helpful?
[07:28] <wj32> !screenlets
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screenlets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <DigitalDeviant> !openoffice
[07:28] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[07:28] <Pathogen246> wj32: do I have to enable write to my partition or do you know?
[07:28] <billy> gnahhh, you're welcome.  But ... how did I help you?
[07:28] <clearzen> sorcerer: I don't know if easyubuntu will install all the gstreamer stuff for you
[07:28] <acidtabs> how do you get your recycle bin back to show on the bottom right?
[07:29] <wj32> zani: http://syzygy42.tuxfamily.org/dists/edgy/screenlets/
[07:29] <wastrel> acidtabs:  in the panel?
[07:29] <sorcerer> clearzen: so is it cool that i can run the line you gave me even though i have .. easy ubuntu running ?
[07:29] <wj32> Deeply: i don't know what to do.
[07:29] <acidtabs> yea it dissapered
[07:29] <acidtabs> on me
[07:29] <wj32> Pathogen246: no you don't
[07:29] <clearzen> sorcerer: As long as it's not running right now you'll be fine
[07:29] <Pathogen246> alright, i'll try it, i might be back
[07:30] <wj32> Pathogen246: clamav can't fix viruses anyway.
[07:30] <Squall> How to can i watch tv with mplayer?
[07:30] <clearzen> sorcerer: If it is running it won't let you do it anyway
[07:30] <sorcerer> ok wel its installed but not open and runniung
[07:30] <sorcerer> ok
[07:30] <sorcerer> here it gies
[07:30] <Pathogen246> but thats what i need, i know it's got a virus, i just can't get rid of it
[07:30] <wj32> mythtv?
[07:30] <wastrel> acidtabs:  right-click panel > add to panel > trash
[07:30] <wj32> Pathogen246: have you tried safe mode in windows?
[07:31] <wj32> BTW: safe mode in windows isn't very safe or useful. doesnt even come with a decent cmd. but lets not bash windows
[07:31] <sorcerer> clearzen: this is what it put out Reading package lists... Done
[07:31] <pppoe_dude> whats a cool rpg
[07:31] <sorcerer> Building dependency tree
[07:31] <sorcerer> Reading state information... Done
[07:31] <sorcerer> gstreamer0.10-plugins-base is already the newest version.
[07:31] <sorcerer> gstreamer0.10-plugins-good is already the newest version.gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly is already the newest version. E: Couldn't find package
[07:31] <pppoe_dude> oops wrong chan
[07:31] <Pathogen246> yea i have
[07:31] <Bales> Anyone know anything about Cedega and why I'd keep getting an md5error while installing BF2142?
[07:31] <wj32> Pathogen246: *shrug* sorry i dont know
[07:31] <acidtabs> i only have remove from panel theres no add
[07:31] <Pathogen246> alright man, appreciate it
[07:31] <DigitalDeviant> anyone know of an irc channel for openoffice?
[07:31] <bjv> ok. im going to focus in on one package
[07:31] <clearzen> sorcerer: did it install any gstreamer plugins?
[07:32] <wastrel> acidtabs:  click on a blank part of the panel
[07:32] <wj32> sorcerer: enable the multiverse and universe channels.
[07:32] <zani> wj32:  actually i was looking for the sources.... theres no official website for screenlets?
[07:32] <bjv> why does apt-get dist-upgrade specifically elect to install package:  libartsc0-dev
[07:32] <bjv> how can i go about finding that?
[07:32] <acidtabs> i did same thing
[07:32] <bjv> what flags that package as something dist-upgrade needs to investigate
[07:32] <Deeply> wj32: is that what you needed?
[07:32] <sorcerer> through synamtic right i think i did that already
[07:33] <clearzen> sorcerer: Check just to be sure
[07:33] <sorcerer> channels yeah they are ticked under settings on the .. synaptic .. program
[07:33] <Deeply> wj32: it says this:
[07:33] <Deeply> No Screen Found
[07:33] <Deeply> PCI Mach64 In Slot 1:0:0 could not be detected
[07:33] <Deeply> PCI Mach64 In Slot 1:0:1 could not be detected
[07:33] <Deeply> those are the errors
[07:33] <wj32> Deeply: i dont know.
[07:34] <Deeply> OK
[07:34] <Deeply> thank you.
[07:34] <wj32> arrrghh!!! i'm overloaded with requests!!!
[07:34] <clearzen> sorcerer: What version are you running?
[07:34] <sorcerer> umm 6.10
[07:34] <wj32> zani: the compiz website is broken.
[07:34] <wj32> zani: i have no idea on how to download it now.
[07:34] <clearzen> sorcerer: I think you need to add some repos hang on.
[07:36] <sorcerer> clearzen: umm i do .. see iam a newbie .. how am i supposed to all this for the future you know iam going to forget them ..
[07:36] <wj32> zani: found it! http://hendrik.kaju.pri.ee/screenlets/failid/screenlets-0.0.7.tar.bz2
[07:37] <ardchoille> sorcerer: Start keeping notes in text files. Notecase is really good for this.
[07:37] <sorcerer> notcase is it a program ?
[07:37] <wj32> zani: zani?
[07:37] <ardchoille> !notecase
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about notecase - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <ardchoille> !info notecase
[07:37] <ubotu> notecase: hierarchical note manager (aka outliner). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.5-2 (edgy), package size 204 kB, installed size 952 kB
[07:37] <clearzen> sorcerer: basicly go here:http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/  and make a sources list and then copy and paste the command from here: http://banshee-project.org/Distributions/Ubuntu
[07:38] <zani> wj32: gonna try dud tnx
[07:38] <clearzen> sorcerer: you can edit your sources.list with this command sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:38] <Deeply> hmmm
[07:39] <Deeply> is !info for everyone or just ops?
[07:39] <clearzen> sorcerer: You want to copy/paste the sudo apt-get command on the banshee page
[07:39] <ardchoille> Anyone, but not too often
[07:39] <twiztr> Would a Wireless-G PCI Adapter Model No: WMP54G that would work on the new Ubuntu
[07:39] <sorcerer> clearzen: hold on mate
[07:40] <clearzen> sorcerer: k
[07:40] <Deeply> !info ATI X800 Pro
[07:40] <ubotu> Package ati does not exist in edgy
[07:40] <Falstius> twiztr, there is a site that lists different wireless cards, their chipsets and the support in Linux ... You can google for it (I don't have it book marked)
[07:40] <wastrel> info is for querying the package database
[07:40] <Deeply> ah OK
[07:40] <twiztr> ok, one second
[07:40] <ardchoille> Deeply: You can also /msg ubotu appname and do your searching in a pm :)
[07:40] <Deeply> <-slowly learning.
[07:40] <wastrel> which you can do just as easily in synaptic
[07:41] <Deeply> well, i'm not exactly sure what I am doing.
[07:41] <sorcerer> clearzen: can i message you privately ?
[07:41] <clearzen> sorcerer: sure
[07:41] <sorcerer> clearzen: err how do i do that lol
[07:41] <acidtabs> is there a driver for a canon pixma ip6000d?
[07:41] <Deeply> I can say I'm quite tired of Microsoft and it's draconian policies.
[07:42] <ardchoille> sorcerer: He won't see your pm's until you id to nickserv
[07:42] <bjv> hmmmmmmmmmmmm...   apt-get dselect-upgrade
[07:42] <bjv> anyone use that over dist-upgrade?
[07:42] <cskj> hey can anyone tell me how to build rpms from tar.bz2 files?
[07:42] <ardchoille> cskj: You can't use rpm's in Ubuntu
[07:43] <ardchoille> !checkinstall | cskj
[07:43] <cskj> i know...but i can convert them to deb files
[07:43] <ubotu> cskj: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[07:43] <bjv> cskj: GBT #fedora
[07:43] <ardchoille> cskj: Converting them is dangerous.
[07:44] <cskj> lament on that ardchoille
[07:44] <cskj> y is it dangerous?
[07:44] <ardchoille> !alien | cskj
[07:44] <ubotu> cskj: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[07:44] <Bales> is there a way to run a checksum on a CD?
[07:44] <clearzen> sorcerer: Did you get my messages?
[07:45] <sorcerer> ] umm yeah i did
[07:46] <sorcerer> did you get mine
[07:46] <ardchoille> !register | sorcerer
[07:46] <ubotu> sorcerer: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:46] <lizalo> apt-get install binutils cpp cpp-4.0 fetchmail flex gcc gcc-4.0 libarchive-zip-perl libc6-dev libcompress-zlib-perl libdb4.3-dev libpcre3 libpopt-dev linux-kernel-headers lynx m4 make ncftp nmap openssl perl perl-modules unzip zip zlib1g-dev autoconf automake1.9 libtool bison autotools-dev g++
[07:46] <ardchoille> sorcerer: He won't see your pm's until you id to nickserv
[07:46] <Squall> I need some help to get Tvtime to work, i get error: tvtime requires hardware YUY2 overlay support from your video card
[07:46] <clearzen> sorcerer: no, but you can use /query
[07:46] <lizalo> E: Package linux-kernel-headers has no installation candidate
[07:46] <lizalo> what can i do ?
[07:46] <clearzen> sorcerer: to talk to me directly
[07:46] <sorcerer> quesry how do i do that
[07:47] <clearzen> sorcerer: /query clearzen blah blah
[07:47] <sorcerer> sorry guys iam new please bare with me
[07:47] <clearzen> sorcerer: it's cool
[07:47] <sorcerer> clearzen: i just send you somthing .. wair how do i register?
[07:48] <Deeply> hmmm
[07:48] <Deeply> google is being tempermental
[07:48] <ardchoille> !register > sorcerer
[07:48] <Squall> Help with Tvtime please
[07:48] <sorcerer> !register > sorcerer
[07:49] <aum> hi - i've uninstalled gnome-screensaver, i've disabled screen blanking in power management, but my screen still blanks after about 15 mins idle - why would this be happening?
[07:49] <Deeply> !register > sorcerer
[07:49] <ardchoille> sorcerer: Check your pm's from the bot.
[07:49] <crdlb> all three of them :)
[07:50] <braddeicide> is there any way to install LTS from floppy?
[07:50] <sorcerer> umm did it work
[07:50] <sorcerer> lol
[07:50] <ardchoille> aum: ps aux | grep gnome-screensaver  and see if it's still running.
[07:50] <aum> ardchoille, most definitely not running
[07:50] <sorcerer> clearzen: did you get my message
[07:51] <aum> ardchoille, i uninstalled it last night, turned on this morning
[07:51] <Deeply> hmmm
[07:51] <clearzen> sorcerer: nope
[07:51] <aum> something is blanking my screen
[07:51] <Deeply> there must be a command line option or something
[07:51] <ardchoille> aum: Ah, ok
[07:51] <clearzen> sorcerer: first thing is first. You want to get a sources list from the website I gave you
[07:51] <clearzen> sorcerer: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[07:52] <aum> could anything else, apart from screensaver or power management, be blanking the screen on idle?
[07:52] <nf4> how meany linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic should be installed ?
[07:52] <fiery_cleric> aum: you could try the xset command to turn off blanking/dpms
[07:52] <sorcerer> it says .. my nickname is already registered
[07:53] <clearzen> sorcerer: Unless you registered before someone has it already then
[07:53] <opopanax> hey, i bought a laptop used recently, and I'm trying to figure out what exact processor I have so I can do a processor upgrade, or at least figure out it won't work.
[07:53] <Squall> "tvtime requires hardware YUY2 overlay support from your video card" help?
[07:53] <sorcerer> umm ok so how do i get a new name and register ?>
[07:54] <ardchoille> sorcerer: I have sent you the info on that twice. Can you please read it?
[07:54] <nf4> i have six  linux-image-2.6.20-X with the last number  which seems random
[07:54] <fiction> !lamp
[07:54] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:54] <fiery_cleric> opopanax: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:54] <fiction> Whenever i used to plug a USB in, an icon would appear on the desktop and i could just doubleclick it. That doesn't happen anymore. Anyone can help?
[07:54] <opopanax> fiery_cleric: no, that's not what I'm looking for.  I know it's a pentium m 1400 mhz but I don't know what chip it is.
[07:54] <wj32> System -> Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media
[07:55] <arroz_con_pollo> list
[07:55] <wj32> (to fiction)
[07:55] <opopanax> and I don't know if i go ahead and get a much faster pentium M chip whether it will even work with my machine.
[07:55] <arroz_con_pollo> uy
[07:55] <opopanax> don't wanna go thru the newegg rma process, ya know?
[07:55] <Deeply> does anyone know about ATI cards?
[07:55] <acidtabs> how do i install .run files?
[07:55] <arroz_con_pollo> just run envy
[07:55] <opopanax> Deeply: I know a little, what's up?
[07:55] <fiery_cleric> acidtabs: usually they are shell scripts...
[07:55] <fiction> wj32: they have "mount driver when inserted" checked. but it doesn't
[07:55] <sorcerer> clearzen: ok man .. what were you talking about the source list i had to configure?
[07:56] <Deeply> I have an ATI Radeon X800 pro
[07:56] <Deeply> i get the following error messages
[07:56] <clearzen> sorcerer: yeah, I can give you one you can use to install what you need if you like
[07:56] <wj32> fiction: OK, what's "used to" mean?
[07:56] <Deeply> No Screen Found
[07:56] <Deeply> PCI Mach64 In Slot 1:0:0 could not be detected
[07:56] <fiction> wj32: means, it used to happen
[07:56] <Deeply> PCI Mach64 In Slot 1:0:1 could not be detected
[07:56] <opopanax> deeply, are you using the open source "radeon" driver, or fglrx?
[07:56] <wj32> acidtabs: ./myrunfile.run
[07:56] <sorcerer> so i just copy and pase your file ?
[07:56] <fiery_cleric> acidtabs: type file <filename>.run to find out what kind of file
[07:57] <wj32> actually before you do that
[07:57] <Deeply> not sure, I just put the CD in the drive and let the machine boot off that
[07:57] <wj32> acidtabs: chmod a+x ./myrunfile.run
[07:57] <opopanax> deeply, ah.
[07:57] <opopanax> ok, then it's the radeon driver
[07:57] <wj32> acidtabs: oops, it's: chmod a+x myrunfile.run; ./myrunfile.run
[07:57] <Deeply> Is there a command line option to tell it how to recognize my card?
[07:58] <phr0ze> later all. Ubuntu is making me reboot.
[07:58] <clearzen> sorcerer: yeah, run sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then select all and paste it        http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15495/
[07:58] <acidtabs> ill try that
[07:58] <wj32> is phr0ze a cracker?
[07:58] <fiery_cleric> Deeply: lspci ?
[07:58] <opopanax> Deeply: not really.  are you on 64-bit or what?
[07:58] <ardchoille> sorcerer: run gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:58] <ardchoille> !gksudo | clearzen
[07:58] <ubotu> clearzen: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>
[07:58] <Deeply> Yes, it is a 64 bit machine
[07:58] <Deeply> currently in Windows
[07:58] <opopanax> of course
[07:58] <Deeply> the drive has not yet been touched
[07:59] <Timeline> Is there a way to access an NTFS petition and copy files off of it to a USB drive from the Ubuntu live CD?
[07:59] <Bales> is there a way to check a cd to make sure there's no damage to it or anything?
[07:59] <clearzen> ardchoille: yeah you're right
[07:59] <opopanax> what version of the cd are you using?  feisty?
[07:59] <wj32> Timeline: sudo mount /dev/sda1 (or sdb1) /mnt
[07:59] <bulmer> I dont think liveCD support writing ntfs
[07:59] <scottam> timeline: yes, which part do you need help with? the usb or ntfs part?
[07:59] <sorcerer> ok i did that line
[07:59] <sorcerer> now my sourc list file is opened
[07:59] <Timeline> Bales: Yes, when you boot to the CD there is an option
[08:00] <sorcerer> now do i .. just .. erase the whole thing copy your source list from that link and paste it there?
[08:00] <opopanax> Deeply: what cd are you using?
[08:00] <clearzen> sorcerer: open that pastebin link copy all of it and paste it then save it
[08:00] <Bales> Timeline: I'm not talking about a Linux CD. I'm talking about a game cd
[08:00] <Deeply> AMD64 one that I downloaded from Ubuntu.com
[08:00] <Deeply> I can get you the exact filename if you require
[08:00] <Timeline> Bales: Sorry man, my bad.
[08:00] <fiery_cleric> Bales: you could try to copy the whole thing to /dev/null and see if it copies
[08:00] <acidtabs> it such file or directory ??? im trying to install world of padman and i have the file on my desktop
[08:00] <Bales> Timeline: Thats okay, I was unclear
[08:00] <opopanax> the beta 7.xx version or the 6.xx version?
[08:01] <acidtabs> it=no
[08:01] <clearzen> sorcerer: remeber to select all the text in the current sources.list or it will be messy
[08:01] <Deeply> 6.10
[08:01] <opopanax> ok, cool.  brb
[08:01] <sorcerer> you mean on mine right
[08:01] <Bales> fiery_cleric: Alright, I'll give that a try. I'm trying to install BF2142 in Cedega, and it keeps giving me an md5 error
[08:01] <Timeline> scottam: both, but the NTFS part first.
[08:01] <clearzen> sorcerer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15495/  <-------copy&paste
[08:01] <fiery_cleric> Bales: that will only tell u the filesystem is ok ... not that the game data is ok
[08:01] <OracleGD> #cheaphookers is now open! Free ops!
[08:02] <OracleGD> #cheaphookers is now open! Free ops!
[08:02] <Bales> fiery_cleric: Hmm.....so is there anything I can do about this problem?
[08:02] <sorcerer> ok i just eraced my source list iam about to past what you gave me
[08:02] <aum> fiery_cleric, thx, that worked
[08:02] <fiery_cleric> aum: np
[08:03] <scottam> timeline: i haven't had any experience with ntfs, so i was hoping it would work, or that someone else would offer with that
[08:03] <fiery_cleric> Bales: i am not sure... i have never used cedega ....
[08:03] <clearzen> sorcerer: cool. Then save it and afterwards run sudo aptitude update. It will give you some errors about not having public keys. We are going to import them now.
[08:03] <acu> I would like to convert a .vob (from a DVD) to .mp3  - Can anyone help?
[08:03] <dmlk>  /join #ubuntu-es
[08:03] <Bales> fiery_cleric: alright, thanks
[08:03] <scottam> timeline: ntfs read might be built in, but i honestly wouldn't know
[08:03] <sorcerer> ok its saved
[08:04] <Bales> fiery_cleric: I tried their IRC channel, but it's pretty much dead
[08:04] <sorcerer> i ran the update as well now
[08:04] <opopanax> Deeply: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver  check this out.  your card is still experimental, which may mean it just doesn't work on 64-bit.  If you fire it up with a 32-bit image, and it works, that's what the problem is.
[08:04] <fiery_cleric> Bales: maybe u can just use wine to use the bf game setup.... or use windows to install the game and copy the game dir into linux
[08:05] <Deeply> ok I bookmarked the URL
[08:05] <Deeply> looking there now
[08:05] <Bales> I already have the game installed in Windows
[08:05] <wj32> fiery_cleric: registry...
[08:05] <sorcerer> it gave me these erros :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15496/
[08:05] <fiery_cleric> wj32: yeah
[08:05] <sorcerer> clearzen: there the link
[08:05] <Bales> fiery_cleric: And wine gave me the same problem
[08:05] <opopanax> everyone, does l-r-m come on the install cd, so he could install fglrx if he wanted?  I doubt it, but...
[08:05] <zero88> !pastebin
[08:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:06] <opopanax> !flood
[08:06] <Minos> cze
[08:06] <Minos> mam problem z ubuntu
[08:06] <clearzen> sorcerer: give me a sec I'll give you a command that will fix that
[08:06] <scottam> timeline: the most common action when you insert a usb drive is for it to mount it (/dev/sda1) in /media if it's far formatted
[08:06] <scottam> *FAT
[08:06] <Minos> zniknely mi wszystkie listwy menu w gnome...
[08:06] <sorcerer> aight man
[08:06] <T0uCH> Hi all... i am running Kubuntu by installing kubuntu desktop on Ubuntu.. and now i am trying to install a software in the add/remove ... after the installation it crash and says : The application Adept installer (adept_installer) crashed and caused the signal  11(SIGSEGV)... can someone help me?
[08:07] <Minos> hello
[08:07] <wj32> once i had 3d acceleration going with my ati radeon 9550se using the "radeon" drivers. i've since switched to fglrx. how can I get radeon working again? when i try 3d progs my system just crashes completely. (alt+sysrq doesn't even work)
[08:07] <Minos> i have problem with ubuntu 7.04
[08:07] <wj32> Minos: please continue
[08:07] <acidtabs> wj32: i tried installing it but i could could get to work
[08:07] <Minos> disapper all menu in gnome
[08:07] <Deeply> opopanax: since I've not installed it, I should still be able to at least try this out?
[08:07] <scottam> timeline: if it doesnt mount automatically you'll need to explore /proc/bus/usb/devices, and if i see the output i ca help
[08:08] <Minos> unexpetcly
[08:08] <acidtabs> wj32: i have the file on my desktop
[08:08] <clearzen> sorcerer: gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 49A120FD1135D466 && gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys<PHONE_NUMBER>7EE263 && gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 31A5F97FED8A569E
[08:08] <Timeline> wj32: The command you gave me is not working. (or I'm doing it wrong)
[08:08] <wj32> acidtabs: more detail please. what error messages?
[08:08] <Hmmmm> hey guys, i need some help using my tape drive on ubuntu
[08:08] <sorcerer> says command not found
[08:08] <Hmmmm> how do i see how much free space is available on my tape drive
[08:08] <wj32> Timeline: thats because your usb drive is probably not at /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb1
[08:08] <Minos> only work in save-mode-gnome
[08:08] <wj32> Timeline: you must search.
[08:08] <acidtabs> no such file or directory
[08:09] <sorcerer> no no clearzen it works mate
[08:09] <Timeline> wj32: Oh I thought that command was to mount the NTFS drive
[08:09] <wj32> acidtabs: when i say myrunfile.run it means replace myrunfile with the name of your run file
[08:09] <sorcerer> clearzen: i think it worked now what you want me to do
[08:09] <wj32> Timeline: it is
[08:09] <clearzen> sorcerer:  try just this gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 49A120FD1135D466
[08:09] <clearzen> sorcerer: oh hang on
[08:09] <wj32> acidtabs: make sure you've done "cd ~/Desktop"
[08:10] <sorcerer> clear the earlier ..; command worked for me or is this an aditional one ?
[08:10] <acidtabs> wj32: ohh let me see
[08:10] <scottam> timeline: do you know the path to your ntfs partition?
[08:10] <wj32> Hmmmm: do basic tape drive functionalities work?
[08:10] <Minos> this make after i upgrade newset update
[08:11] <Timeline> scottam: In windows, yes, it's the C drive
[08:11] <Minos> yesterday
[08:11] <clearzen> sorcerer: gpg --export --armor 49A120FD1135D466  | sudo apt-key add - && gpg --export --armor<PHONE_NUMBER>7EE263 | sudo apt-key add - && gpg --export --armor 31A5F97FED8A569E | sudo apt-key add -
[08:11] <scottam> timeline: no, in linux, or failing that, how it is connected to the motherboard
[08:11] <Minos> that is all
[08:11] <Timeline> scottam: IDE
[08:11] <wj32> Timeline: /dev/hda1
[08:11] <scottam> timeline: which channel?
[08:12] <sorcerer> all i got from the last was ok ok ok
[08:12] <clearzen> clearzen: then sudo aptitude update again. Now we can install the plugins
[08:12] <T0uCH> Hi all... i am running Kubuntu by installing kubuntu desktop on Ubuntu.. and now i am trying to install a software in the add/remove ... after the installation it crash and says : The application Adept installer (adept_installer) crashed and caused the signal  11(SIGSEGV)... can someone help me?
[08:12] <Timeline> scottam and wj32: Basicly I want to extract data from a dead windows xp install and move it to a USB drive
[08:12] <Timeline> Primary I think
[08:12] <sorcerer> clearzen: you there i ran those .. commands ..
[08:13] <wj32> Timeline: does the usb drive use ntfs?
[08:13] <sorcerer> well only 2 of them right ?
[08:13] <scottam> timeline: try mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/some_folder
[08:13] <sonoftheclayr> does the 6.06 live cd have gparted on it?
[08:13] <Timeline> wj32: checking
[08:13] <acidtabs> wj32: do i type cd ~/desktop first
[08:13] <clearzen> sorcerer: run sudo aptitude update again
[08:13] <scottam> wj32: most default to fat16
[08:13] <acidtabs> wj32: come up with No such file or directory
[08:13] <clearzen> sorcerer: then we can install the plugins *whew*
[08:13] <Timeline> scottam and wj32: USB drive = FAT
[08:14] <scottam> timeline: good, that makes things simpler
[08:14] <sorcerer> it says done
[08:14] <Timeline> I like simple
[08:14] <clearzen> sorcerer: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly \     gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse \     gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[08:14] <scottam> timeline: what happens, if anything, when you plug in your usb drive?
[08:14] <wj32> acidtabs: cd ~/Desktop; ls
[08:15] <wj32> acidtabs: what does that output?
[08:15] <wj32> acidtabs: does the output contain your run file?
[08:15] <scottam> timeline, specifically, tell me if it appears on your Desktop or in /media/
[08:16] <acidtabs> man im kinda retarded im so lost
[08:16] <sorcerer> clearzen:  here is what happened in the last line :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15498/
[08:16] <twiztr> I just plugged in the wifi card in the other computer, and it is being detented... But when I try to connect the network, it isn't working...
[08:16] <zani> when i activate beryl in ubuntu the background of gnome terminal becomes "really" transparent (not that lame transparency that always show the wallpaper no matter if it has screens behind it) but in debian the terminal is not affected by beryl, how can i enable this behavior in debian?
[08:16] <wj32> acidtabs: could you copy and paste the exact error message?
[08:16] <acidtabs> its a worldofpadman.run thats on my desktop im trying to get it running by wat ur trying to say