[06:42] <voraistos> Hello, i have a permission related question... Do we (like in windows if i remember) have a possibility to set diferent permissions for different groups and different users for the same file instead of one user, one group and one everybody else ?
[06:42] <Lathiat> its protocol-compatible with the apple bonjour stuff
[06:42] <Lathiat> so itunes sharing, etc,
[06:42] <levander> Lathiat: so, with avahi, and support on those Linux distros, you could just auto discover all these computers on the network?
[06:42] <Lathiat> levander: correct
[06:42] <wasabi_> voraistos: Yes, there are ACLs.
[06:42] <Lathiat> altho its not so much to discover the "computers"
[06:43] <Lathiat> as services
[06:43] <wasabi_> voraistos: There just aren't any good UIs for them.
[06:43] <Lathiat> for example if you have ekiga open, and you open it on another machine, you can see that person in the auto-discovered list to call
[06:43] <levander> Lathiat: well, if it's not so much, what's the big deal?
[06:43] <ddaemon> what configuration sets the options for display resolutions available in the screen resolution preference panel?
[06:43] <wasabi_> ddaemon: The graphics card and monitor combo itself, hopefully ;)
[06:43] <voraistos> wasabi_ ACLs? can you be more specific ?
[06:43] <Lathiat> and in rhythmbox you can enable music sharing (Edit->Preferences->Sharing) then anyone that opens rhythmbox can see your music and play from your collection
[06:44] <Lathiat> levander: not so much for ""COMPUTERS"" as 'services' running on those computers
[06:44] <wasabi_> voraistos: Access COntrol Lists. That's what WIndows calls them too.
[06:44] <wasabi_> voraistos: You'll have to look up POSIX ACLs online someplace. I don't really want to explain them in IRC.
[06:44] <ddaemon> wasabi_ is there anyway to manually override the options?
[06:44] <wasabi_> ddaemon: Probably. =)
[06:44] <levander> Lathiat: I assume there are permissions you can set through this avahi thing, yes?
[06:44] <Lathiat> levander: permissions?
[06:44] <voraistos> wasabi_ thank you, i just wanted a bit more eplanation to actually know what to google :P
[06:44] <ddaemon> i've got a situation where I know the card and monitor can both drive at higher than 640x480, but that is my only option
[06:44] <levander> Lathiat: like if i only want certain people accessing my Rythmbox library.
[06:45] <Lathiat> levander: no, thats up to the application
[06:45] <Lathiat> levander: you can set a password on RB shares i think
[06:45] <Lathiat> but access control is not built into avahi itself
[06:45] <elyon> Hello
[06:45] <Lathiat> the application has to layer that on top
[06:45] <wasabi_> avahi, btw, is an implementation of "bonjour", which is what APple invented. ... also called Rendevous at some point.
[06:45] <levander> Lathiat: it's starting to make sense, I guess it's installed by default on Edgy to encourage application developers to support it?  It's a political thing including it.  To show support.
[06:45] <wasabi_> And sometimes "zeroconf"
[06:45] <Lathiat> levander: its included because they want to support it, BUT
[06:45] <Rookie_> create a group and let that group be the one who is allowed to access the map, put current users in that group if necesery
[06:46] <Lathiat> levander: ubuntu had a "no open ports" policy
[06:46] <Lathiat> levander: this is something that is changing a little bit it seems
[06:46] <levander> Lathiat: ahhhh, no open ports, this makes sense
[06:46] <levander> Lathiat: yeah
[06:46] <Lathiat> i guess also as avahi matures a bit they feel more confident in it
[06:46] <Lathiat> it tries to be pretty secure
[06:46] <Lathiat> drops privs, chroots, etc
[06:46] <elyon> Is there any kind of Windows - To - Ubuntu migration guide out there?
[06:46] <Lathiat> we've had 1 crasher, and 1 bug that makes it eat 100% CPU, no exploitable bugs as yet
[06:46] <Lathiat> .. so far :\
[06:47] <Lathiat> i'm mildly afraid of the day someone finds one :/ hah
[06:47] <Wolfgang> yes    the link from windows to ubuntu is here:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[06:47] <artbird309> elyon: google it
[06:47] <Lathiat> hopefully never *G*
[06:47] <elyon> Thanks, Wolfgang
[06:47] <Wolfgang> No Problem :P
[06:47] <orestyle9> I have an fstab setup that is not working (mounting on reboot) but does work with mount -a.  Any ideas?
[06:47] <levander> Lathiat: thanks for explaining, it's making more sense.  I'll probably be using avahi as an end user before too long.
[06:48] <Lathiat> levander: woo ;)
[06:48] <levander> orestyle9: is it a network mount that isn't working?
[06:48] <Lathiat> levander: if you need any help with it, feel free to stop past #avahi
[06:48] <levander> Lathiat: thanks
[06:49] <orestyle9> levander:  yes, both a raid array and a network share.  Both not working.
[06:49] <levander> orestyle9: maybe the network isn't loaded when the machine is trying to mount the volume during bootup?
[06:49] <pluto> Can someone please tell me the ubuntu equivilant of this directory?  /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input
[06:49] <orestyle9> levander:  For the raid array, I thought that maybe the drivers where not loading in time, but for a network share.
[06:50] <levander> orestyle9: the network still has to come up before it can be mounted
[06:50] <orestyle9> levander:  it works when I do a mount -a
[06:50] <kdub> i need help getting dual monitors to work with an ati card
[06:50] <artbird309> what would be better for a server install 6.06 or 6.10
[06:50] <levander> orestyle9: yeah, but by the time you do "mount -a" the network is already up
[06:51] <levander> artbird309: if you need commercial support 6.06
[06:51] <soloik> when i update the system  the kernel also chages?
[06:51] <levander> artbird309: if you want to upgrade to feisty, 6.10
[06:51] <levander> soloik: sometimes
[06:51] <pluto> Can someone please tell me the ubuntu equivilant of this directory?  /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input
[06:51] <artbird309> levander: what is better about feisty
[06:52] <orestyle9> levander:  Ya, its an existing network, been up for a long time.  This server is the system that goes up and down (but is not the master domain controller)
[06:52] <abhinay> how to get write permissions for ext3 drive ?   i have given ,  /dev/hda6	/media/hda6     ext3    users,rw        0       0      in fstab
[06:52] <levander> artbird309: it's just the next release of feisty, some things it will have is integrated beryl, better xen support...
[06:52] <levander> next release of *ubuntu* i meant
[06:52] <orestyle9> abhinay:  have you tried auto where the ext3 is?
[06:53] <artbird309> levander: it is a server so I don't need beryl
[06:53] <kdub> anyone know how to get beryl running on dual monitors?
[06:53] <orestyle9> abhinay:  never mind...
[06:53] <varsendaggr> how do i iopen a .rar
[06:53] <abhinay> orestyle9, it is ext3 file type, why auto, it 'll not gonna work
[06:53] <jisatsu_> varsendaggr: install the rar and unrar packages
[06:53] <levander> artbird309: do you know whether or not the option of professional support is important?  Like do you want to be able to call somebody a year from now and have them help you fix it?  Without having to upgrade your software the whole time?
[06:54] <levander> artbird309: 6.06 is LTS (long-term support) - Ubuntu will support it for 2 years - wait, maybe it's five, I don't remember
[06:54] <juan> are there any good guides to understanding xorg?
[06:54] <Dasnipa`> levander, 2 years for desktop 5 for server i believe
[06:54] <artbird309> levander: no it is for a school
[06:54] <levander> artbird309: 6.10 is just another release with no commitment to LTS
[06:54] <orestyle9> abhinay:  I have a system with ext3 and we use defaults where you have users,rw
[06:55] <kdub> edgy is lts
[06:55] <levander> artbird309: if it goes down, what's the damage?
[06:55] <Dasnipa`> kdub, edgy is not lts
[06:55] <levander> artbird309: how much money do you lose?
[06:55] <orestyle9> abhinay:  I think that applies the permissions from the device itself
[06:55] <abhinay> orestyle9, because the default option didn't work for me , so i gave users, rw
[06:55] <Dasnipa`> kdub, edgy will be supported 6 months as usual and then feisty will come out and probably be supported for 6 months as well
[06:55] <artbird309> levander: I do not think any it is a school of about 120 seats
[06:55] <levander> artbird309: is this server something you are interested in working with, or is it just something you need to have?
[06:56] <willys_fueguino> I CANT SWITCH USERS!
[06:56] <kdub> 6.06 is though?
[06:56] <artbird309> willys_fueguino: I would be runing it
[06:56] <levander> artbird309: do you want to spend time with ubuntu, or do you just want something tha tworks?
[06:56] <Dasnipa`> 6.06 dapper drake. is LTS
[06:56] <soloik> what is the best way for changes my kernel of 2.6.17-10-generic a  <IP_ADDRESS> for amd64
[06:56] <Dasnipa`> i wouldnt expect another LTS until at least dapper support for desktop ends
[06:56] <Dasnipa`> so 2 years
[06:56] <Dasnipa`> well 1.5 years
[06:57] <artbird309> levander: I don't know
[06:57] <levander> artbird309: like, when mysql comes out with version 5.1 of their database, do you want to be able to upgrade fairly soon, or do you care if you upgrade ever?
[06:57] <levander> artbird309: you have more evaluating to do, what is the deadline for getting this box up?
[06:57] <artbird309> levander: next year
[06:57] <artbird309> levander: next school year
[06:57] <Dasnipa`> oh lol
[06:58] <Dasnipa`> next year i was like haha 3 days?
[06:58] <levander> artbird309: how much time do you have to spend evaluating?
[06:58] <willys_fueguino> Im so tired with this... I cant get gdmflexiserver to work...
[06:58] <levander> artbird309: is this a task that you want to accomplish, or is this something you're interested in looking into?
[06:58] <ShakaGoldSaint> hi, one stupid question, does synaptic have a fullscreen mode?
[06:58] <willys_fueguino> someone please help me...
[06:58] <willys_fueguino> ShakaGoldSaint: no
[06:58] <wasabi_> ShakaGoldSaint: it has a maximize button
[06:58] <artbird309> levander: I want to
[06:58] <levander> when I say accomplish, i mean accomplish quickly
[06:59] <ShakaGoldSaint> ehmmm, then what is this.....
[06:59] <levander> artbird309: want to what?
[06:59] <artbird309> levander: accomplish it
[06:59] <levander> artbird309: quickly?
[06:59] <levander> artbird309: is this just something you are trying to get done?
[06:59] <artbird309> levander: no I have till june
[06:59] <levander> artbird309: but, how much personal time do you want to invest?
[07:00] <artbird309> levander: 3 hour a week
[07:00] <weem> yo
[07:00] <levander> artbird309: are you a teacher at this school?
[07:00] <ShakaGoldSaint> http://eleazar.teamma.net/Pantallazo.png willys_fueguino
[07:00] <artbird309> levander: no student
[07:00] <levander> artbird309: are you interested in computers?
[07:01] <artbird309> levander: yes
[07:01] <levander> artbird309: do you want to learn more about them?  or, just get this job done?
[07:01] <levander> artbird309: if they are having a student put the computer up, it's probably not mission critical
[07:01] <willys_fueguino> ShakaGoldSaint: nice
[07:01] <artbird309> levander:  I am doing tech stuff right now
[07:01] <ShakaGoldSaint> willys_fueguino,
[07:02] <dan__> how do I install usb wireless adapters?
[07:02] <levander> artbird309: go to ubuntu.com, and first read about edubuntu and see if you need any of that stuff, then download either ubuntu or edubuntu 6.10
[07:02] <artbird309> levander: I am the 2 in tech there
[07:02] <levander> artbird309: what is a "2 in tech"?
[07:02] <artbird309> levander: number 2 in the tech side of the school
[07:02] <dan__> or just have them mail it to you
[07:03] <levander> artbird309: you are ranked number 2?
[07:03] <Pirate-king> what is the best and easiest program to web cam with?
[07:03] <levander> amongst the students?
[07:03] <artbird309> levander: yes
[07:03] <levander> artbird309: good for you
[07:03] <artbird309> levander: not techers
[07:03] <levander> artbird309: go for edgy, version 6.10 i think
[07:03] <artbird309> levander: ok
[07:03] <Adramelech> Pirate-king: aMsn only one i tried
[07:03] <artbird309> levander: I will play with that
[07:03] <levander> artbird309: all you have to do is download the CD, then you can see if the computer is compatible with it by running Ubuntu off the CD
[07:04] <levander> artbird309: after you decide if Ubuntu is going to work on that computer, then you can isntall Ubuntu onto the hard drive.
[07:04] <ShakaGoldSaint> so synaptic doesn't have fullscreen http://eleazar.teamma.net/Pantallazo.png  :(, then what is this? :S and how can i fix it?
[07:04] <levander> artbird309: it's important to do it in that order
[07:04] <llindy> pirate-king, I have yet to find anything to cam with, and I use Ubuntu 6.06
[07:04] <levander> artbird309: if ubuntu doesn't work on that computer, it's probably too much to ask someone new to ubuntu to get it to work...
[07:04] <weem> /j #bcm-dev
[07:05] <weem> niceee
[07:05] <jw_606> Hello
[07:05] <Pirate-king> dam
[07:05] <levander> artbird309: although, with determination, you could probably get it to work
[07:05] <siv0x> how do i "run as root" - i'm trying to figure out how to set my graphics card up with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:05] <jw_606> Can I get some help using the make command please?
[07:05] <llindy> pirate-king.. I have a dual boot, and have to boot into MS to cam, and use gAIM in Ubuntu
[07:05] <levander> artbird309: if it doesn't work, hopefully you have another computer to try it on
[07:05] <artbird309> levander: We have not got the servers yet it is going to be a Dell rack server so I think it will work
[07:05] <llindy> pirate-king, no compat drivers for cams..:(
[07:05] <jw_606> I forgot what I used last time I tryed to compile something, it was something like 'make prepare all' ? does that look right?
[07:05] <Adramelech> Pirate-king: aMsn support webcams
[07:05] <dan__> are there any wireless adapters made for ubuntu?
[07:06] <Pirate-king> pretty compicated to set up
[07:06] <Pirate-king> amsn?///
[07:06] <llindy> yes, they may support the cams ok, but there are no cpmpat drivers thatI can find, and I have a Cretaive cam, and a logitech
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> dan__: Made for, no.  That work with, yes.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:06] <Adramelech> Pirate-king: aMsn is on repos
[07:06] <Pirate-king> I have a logitec for notebooks
[07:06] <dan__> ok ill look
[07:06] <Pirate-king> in kubuntu?
[07:07] <levander> artbird309: make sure it will work before you buy it
[07:07] <llindy> *creative labs, and logitech
[07:07] <Adramelech> llindy: my creative old cam works fine with xpia drivers
[07:07] <artbird309> levander: How would I go about doing that
[07:07] <Pirate-king> repos = repositorys? correct?
[07:07] <dan__> ty
[07:07] <llindy> hmmmm, I cant even get the disk to read, and USB plug and play wont work on my model
[07:07] <Adramelech> Pirate-king: yes, look for it on synaptic
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> Pirate-king: yes
[07:08] <Adramelech> llindy: mine is parallel but cpia supports usb i think
[07:08] <Pirate-king> I know Im in ubuntu I have kubuntu synaptic I think is in ubuntu...
[07:08] <llindy> hmmm, Ill have to check that out, thanks
[07:09] <llindy> yes, synaptic is in Ubuntu
[07:09] <Adramelech> llindy: modprobe cpia_usb as root
[07:09] <llindy> oh, ok
[07:09] <Pirate-king> I know Im in ubuntu channeI I have kubuntu synaptic I think is in ubuntu...
[07:10] <artbird309> Pirate-king It use the same system so it will work the same
[07:10] <Adramelech> Pirate-king: do you have universe enable?
[07:11] <Pirate-king> not that I know off
[07:11] <Pirate-king> pretty new at this linux stuff
[07:11] <llindy> adramelech:modprobe cpia_usb invalid operation
[07:12] <Pirate-king> how do you enable universe???????????
[07:12] <artbird309> Pirate-king: trie asking in the #kubuntu
[07:12] <Adramelech> Pirate: setting->repositories
[07:12] <Pirate-king> yeah not really any one ther to answer
[07:13] <llindy> adramelech: E: Couldn't find package modprobe
[07:13] <llindy> root@lindy:/home/lindy#
[07:13] <orestyle9> anyone help with mounting network shares through fstab?
[07:13] <artbird309> Pirate-king: did you trie setting->repositories
[07:14] <Pirate-king> system settings then repositories
[07:14] <Adramelech> llindy: those 3 lines are the whole output?
[07:14] <llindy> yes
[07:14] <artbird309> Pirate-king: no the setting in kubuntu synaptic
[07:14] <Wolfgang> Is there a list for checking compatabilty for Ubuntu with wireless network cards and routers?
[07:14] <Wolfgang> I use Linksys for both
[07:14] <siv0x> Can someone tell me how to get my latest nvidia drivers, for an nvidia geforce 6800 ? i used sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is that all i need to do?
[07:15] <llindy> adramelech: root@lindy:/home/lindy# modprobe cpia_usb
[07:15] <llindy> root@lindy:/home/lindy# mine
[07:15] <llindy> bash: mine: command not found
[07:15] <llindy> root@lindy:/home/lindy# sudo apt-get modprobe cpia_usb
[07:15] <llindy> E: Invalid operation modprobe
[07:15] <llindy> root@lindy:/home/lindy# modprobe cpia_usb
[07:15] <llindy> root@lindy:/home/lindy# sudo apt-get install modprobe cpia_usb
[07:15] <llindy> Reading package lists... Done
[07:15] <llindy> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:15] <artbird309> Wolfgang: the router will work
[07:15] <llindy> E: Couldn't find package modprobe
[07:15] <llindy> root@lindy:/home/lindy#
[07:15] <iovanalex> anyone has instaled ubuntu on a dell gx620 ?
[07:15] <artbird309> iovanalex: what is that
[07:15] <wastrel> why did you put all that junk in the channel mr llindy?
[07:15] <Adramelech> llindy: modporbe is part of the system is the way to load modules
[07:16] <llindy> Um, I didnt know what to do
[07:16] <llindy> ok
[07:16] <Adramelech> llindy: what you are trying to do is to load cpia_usb module
[07:16] <siv0x> Can someone tell me how to get my latest nvidia drivers, for an nvidia geforce 6800 ? i used sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is that all i need to do?
[07:16] <llindy> oh, ok, thanks, I have been working and working on this, 6 mos new to Ubuntu
[07:17] <Adramelech> llindy: me too
[07:17] <barata> hallo, how to lame a wav FROM 00.00.00 second to 05.02.39 for instance?
[07:17] <Adramelech> llindy: as i see your output it should work now
[07:17] <Wolfgang> artbird309 thanks
[07:17] <barata> lame -b 192 ..... ?
[07:17] <llindy> ok, will try now, thanks much
[07:17] <freebse> hi how do I change the space between icons on a kde desktop
[07:17] <llindy> :)
[07:17] <Adramelech> llindy: have to do that everytime you reboot
[07:17] <llindy> yikes, ok
[07:17] <Adramelech> llindy: or add it in etc/modules i think
[07:17] <palomer> hello
[07:17] <llindy> ok, will do
[07:17] <palomer> I'd like to input japanese from scim to skype
[07:18] <palomer> not working
[07:18] <palomer> anyone have any suggestions?
[07:18] <cntb> http://pangea001.upc.es/ubuntu-dvd-torrents/
[07:18] <siv0x> Can someone tell me how to get my latest nvidia drivers, for an nvidia geforce 6800 ? i used sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is that all i need to do?
[07:18] <artbird309> siv0x: go to nvidia.com
[07:18] <weem> anyone here Wardrive?
[07:19] <Adramelech> siv0x: do you want the propietary drivers?
[07:19] <jisatsu_> siv0x: nvidia-glx should work fine
[07:19] <Simplechat> is there any way to troubleshoot a ubuntu cd that won't boot
[07:19] <siv0x> I'm planning on running games later on, i want my newest drivers.
[07:19] <artbird309> Simplechat:  md5sum
[07:19] <Adramelech> siv0x: open source drivers supports only 2d acc, propietary ones support 2d and 3d
[07:20] <jisatsu_> siv0x: install the nvidia-glx package and configure it with [insert command I can't remember]
[07:20] <Simplechat> art: tried that, it crashes around grub
[07:20] <siv0x> Okay, whats the command to install the nvidia-glx?
[07:20] <Simplechat> so it won't check
[07:20] <Asc> weem: It's illegal last I checked, but if you're looking for a way to find nearby wireless networks, you might try installing 'network-manager-gnome'
[07:20] <Simplechat> i've tried it on about 5 dvd's now
[07:20] <jisatsu_> siv0x: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:20] <Simplechat> including half a dousin other distros (ubuntu, fedora core 6, pclinuxos...)
[07:21] <Shocka311> I downloaded some KDE programs and my X is Gnome and when I try to get help for the KDE programs it says " could not launch the KDE Help center: Could not find service 'khelpcenter'." where can I downloat the nececary files for the help menus in all my KDE programs?
[07:21] <siv0x> k
[07:21] <jisatsu_> then you'll need to edit a file to enable it
[07:21] <artbird309> Shocka311: you need to install KDE Help
[07:21] <Simplechat> ?
[07:21] <siv0x> Okay.. you dont remember how?
[07:21] <Simplechat> any ideas?
[07:21] <jisatsu_> siv0x: 2 secs and I'll check my config
[07:21] <siv0x> Thanks
[07:22] <freebse> siv0x: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable , maybe this works, if it does not (some Ubuntu versions are broken here) you need to setup x manuell
[07:22] <Shocka311> artbird309: where do I find KDE help to download it?
[07:22] <cntb> artbird309:  how to install kde help ?
[07:22] <artbird309> Shocka311: sudo apt-get install kdehelp?
[07:22] <voraistos> hey has anyone tried listen media player ?
[07:22] <jisatsu_> siv0x: /etc/X11/xorg.conf find a line something like this: Driver          "nv" change nv to nvidia and save it
[07:23] <siv0x> jisatsu: it said my x config has been changed, system needs to reboot to get full advantages out of this, does that mean it works?
[07:23] <Shocka311> artbird309: let me try that.
[07:23] <cntb> sudo apt-get install kdehelp ?? artbird309?
[07:23] <artbird309> cntb ?
[07:23] <cntb> ty
[07:23] <jisatsu_> hm. weird, didn't work for me before. reboot, but it didn't necessarily activate the driver, might need to do it manually
[07:23] <tim167> how can I automate saving a scanned document to 2 filetypes ? (now I have to do it in Gimp but it's soo tedious) thanks
[07:24] <Shocka311> artbird309: it said "E: Couldn't find package kdehelp
[07:24] <siv0x> okay, so you want me to reboot and come back?
[07:25] <freebse> siv0x: normally rebooting does not have an effect, restarting x will do it
[07:25] <jw_606> Can someone help me with an error please? Here is the error, its probably something simple http://paste.getlinuxhelp.org/64903
[07:26] <artbird309> Shocka311: let me look
[07:26] <Adramelech> Shoka311: i think you need kde desktop to get that
[07:26] <siv0x> freebse: how do i restart x? - been about a year that i've used linux..
[07:26] <Adramelech> siv0x: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[07:26] <siv0x> K
[07:26] <tim167> I need to automate / script the following: scan a document at 300 dpi, save it to a .pgm file, then save it as .jpg file, close file, wait for following scan command... how do I do that ?
[07:26] <Adramelech> Siv0x:but wait a min
[07:26] <freebse> siv0x: CTRL ALT Backspace when you are in X
[07:27] <Adramelech> siv0x: You know hot to recover if that dont work?
[07:29] <jadacyrus> I've been running Dual Head on nvidia for some time now and all of a sudden my desktop backgrounds are behaving like im not running twinview, (ie Center puts the background in the center between the two monitors, not centered on each monitor like it used to) , however maximizing windows and everything else still behaves like im using twinview
[07:30] <barata> hallo, how to lame a wav FROM 00.00.00 second to 05.02.39 for instance?
[07:30] <tim167> how can I script this: aquire a document from scanner, generate a sequential filename, save to both a *.pgm file and a .jpg file, await  following scan command... any ideas at all ? thanks
[07:30] <bjv> !xorg
[07:30] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:31] <Shocka311> in synaptic package manager what does it indicate if a check box is green but not checked?
[07:31] <bjv> ubuntu decided that we should not be able to resize our desktops?
[07:31] <bjv> ctr-alt- +/- doesnt seem to work for me anymore
[07:31] <bjv> *in edgy
[07:32] <wastrel> bjv:  num lock?  i dunno i'm on a laptop & have no numpad :]
 ubuntu decided that we should not be able to resize our desktops? ---> imposible, just back up, partition & put it back
[07:32] <Adramelech> Shoka311: I think your refering that is going to be installed
[07:32] <bjv> no, i mean change the resolution of the running x server
[07:32] <wastrel> bjv also check system > preferences > screen resolution
[07:33] <Shocka311> adramelech: but they're not checked.
 no, i mean change the resolution of the running x server --> run xconfig
 no, i mean change the resolution of the running x server --> run xconfig Xorg
[07:33] <jisatsu_> by default, is there a keystroke to open the "Applications" menu?
[07:33] <Shocka311> adramelech: most of the check boxes are white and uncheked but some are green.
[07:34] <Adramelech> Shocka311: oh, means its installed already
[07:34] <wastrel> Shocka311:  the "check" thing may look different depending on your gtk/gnome theme
[07:34] <wastrel> what do i know i don't use synaptic
[07:34] <Shocka311> adramelech: iah they are packages I already have some version installed
[07:34] <bjv> yeah, i guess i can use stuff like gnome-control-center to change the res.
[07:34] <Shocka311> I got it, thanks
[07:34] <bjv> i just liked the hotkeys in xorg.
[07:35] <bjv> they seem disabled at compile time?
[07:35] <Adramelech> bjv: Maybe is cause of xorg 7.1
[07:35] <jadacyrus> I've been running Dual Head on nvidia for some time now and all of a sudden my desktop backgrounds are behaving like im not running twinview, (ie Center puts the background in the center between the two monitors, not centered on each monitor like it used to) , however maximizing windows and everything else still behaves like im using twinview
[07:35] <Adramelech> bjv: lots of changes to this version
[07:35] <bjv> ah well.
[07:35] <bjv> back to WoW, ill fix xorg later. ~_~
[07:36] <Adramelech> jw_606: still need hwlp with ur pastbin?
[07:36] <Shocka311> artbird309: I found a khelp, let me see if this is the one with all the help files
[07:37] <mdious> hi everyone
[07:37] <bruenig> !hi | mdious
[07:37] <ubotu> mdious: Hi!   Is there anything to be done about this?
[07:39] <Asc> and by 'window managers', I mean 'file managers'
[07:39] <bruenig> Asc, how much do you have in your home directory, I could see if you had thousands of files in it, when it tried to display them all really exploding
[07:39] <barata> what do you use Asc? Konqueror?
[07:39] <momal> How can I kill a process from command "kill -9 PID" I run that and it is still running help!!..   Fifty or so if you count hidden.
[07:40] <barata> or kill -KILL
[07:40] <mdious> Asc:  don't use kde but apparently disabling ipv6 speeds up konqueror or something....dunno if that helps...might only be for browsing network shares and stuff
[07:40] <Asc> barata, it's happened under nautilus, thunar, and probably pcmanfm
[07:41] <mister_roboto> barata, that won't work  KILL *is* -9
[07:41] <barata> nautilus is unstable, I never use it ....
[07:41] <mister_roboto> barata: probably he doesn't own the process
[07:41] <Asc> nautilus was kind of a pain because it draws the gnome desktop
[07:41] <mister_roboto> momal: try sudo
[07:41] <barata> if that happens to me mister_roboto, I'll just use ksysguard to kill it
[07:41] <momal> barata: It didn't die :S... | mister_roboto: Im running under root account already program was run under root
[07:41] <freebse> nautilus is allright when you start it --browser --no-desktop
[07:42] <barata> if it still doesnt work, I'll go to init 1
[07:42] <bruenig> Asc, it doesn't make sense, it doesn't do it anywhere else?
[07:42] <mrmoke>    /quit
[07:42] <bruenig> mrmoke, try it without the 7 spaces
[07:43] <Asc> bruenig: Nope, nowhere.
[07:43] <cyphase> does anyone know of any way to access Evolution via Python?
[07:43] <bruenig> Asc, any weird files maybe a weird extension or something that it is trying to assign to an icon or something, grabbing a straws
[07:43] <bruenig> at*
[07:44] <Asc> bruenig, I don't think so.  It doesn't happen every time either.
[07:45] <Asc> ...it's weird.  Nautilus used to do it when viewing the directory, but now does it every time gnome starts.  Others do it intermittently when viewing the directory.
[07:48] <artbird309> How do I find my hostname for a shell
[07:48] <rcbaxter> Has anyone gotten the MonoDevelop Version Control Addin to work?
[07:49] <Adramelech> Asc: Nautilus 100% cpu usage is a bug
[07:49] <Adramelech> Asc: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/54684
[07:49] <weem> anyone here Wardrive?
[07:50] <Asc> adramelch: It's more of 100% memory usage, though I've not been watching the CPU when it happens
[07:50] <h3xis> weem, back in the day
[07:50] <weem> damn
[07:50] <weem> lol
[07:52] <gephalt> what man page do i need to look at in order to understand /etc/network/interfaces?
[07:52] <Asc> 'man ingerfaces'
[07:53] <gephalt> Asc: ok.
[07:53] <timfrost> artbird309: HN=`hostname` will set variable HN to the hostname.  Is that what you want?
[07:53] <artbird309> timfrost: yes
[07:54] <gaten> !wireless
[07:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:54] <gwark> what does cpu softlock mean, and how could it have hapen al of s sudden??
[07:56] <Siv0x> Okay.. i'm back and after i used ctrl+alt+backspace it wouldnt let me go back to my desktop. so i restarted and it still wouldnt.. there for i tried safe mode and it still wouldnt, gave me an error each time. so i reformatted.
[07:56] <wastrel> my old crappy laptop doesn't power down when i shut down - how do i fix this ?
[07:56] <Adramelech> Siv0x: fast reformat in history
[07:57] <Adramelech> Sv0x: i asked you if you know how to recover your system but left too soon
[07:57] <gwark> my ubuntu stopped booting due to "cpu softlock" any one know what the cause of that could be please?
[07:57] <Siv0x> Adramelech: lol its all good man.
[07:57] <Siv0x> Adramelech: was it startx?
[07:57] <Adramelech> Siv0x: to start X server
[07:58] <Adramelech> Siv0x: look is a good practice to backup your config files before doing something
[07:58] <Adramelech> Siv0x: And to avoid reinstalling, you can surf the web from command line using lynx
[07:59] <Siv0x> All i am trying to do now is, get my nvidia drivers working, and detect my sound card.
[07:59] <Shocka311> is there anything I can do to increase my pc's speed besides adding more ram and more memory?
[07:59] <Adramelech> Siv0x: install invidia-glx
[07:59] <Siv0x> k.
[07:59] <Adramelech> Siv0x i think you did that already last time right?
[07:59] <abhinay> Iam getting this message when iam trying to mount ntfs drive : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39290/
[08:00] <abhinay> It says go to windows and shutdown properly, but i don't have windows here
[08:00] <gephalt> is it necessary to have a software router configured (i cannot use a hardware router) in order to minimize network congestion and that sort of thing? this is a standalone network- 35 PCs that needs to be able to talk to each other- no internet connection
[08:01] <abhinay> Anybody help ?
[08:01] <Siv0x> Adramelech: yes, but one sec. still updating.
[08:01] <Adramelech> abhinay: Bad think, i thing is that hardrive is marked as it need a check
[08:01] <Adramelech> abhinay: currently u can only unmark it from windows
[08:01] <Adramelech> abhinay: more info on ntfs-3g site
[08:01] <abhinay> Adramelech, hmm...
[08:02] <klypso> LameBMX: hey
[08:02] <Adramelech> abhinay: Run 'ntfsfix' on Linux which will reset the NTFS journal.
[08:02] <Adramelech> abhinay: you did that?
[08:02] <toulouse> hey guys, i was going to try another flavor of linux, so i burnt the cd... but when i started the comp. with the cd in there, it didnt boot into the linux i wanted to try... do you guys know what i can do to fix this
[08:02] <klypso> LameBMX: Thanks for your help, it all worked out.
[08:02] <abhinay> Adramelech, that didn't work
[08:03] <klypso> hey I have a terminal question
[08:03] <NeoLithium> toulouse: Check if your system boots from the CD drive first (It's a selection in BIOS)
[08:03] <Adramelech> abhinay: to be honest that happened to me and i fixed ot going into windows and closing it properly :P
[08:03] <Siv0x> Adramelech, okay you want me to sodu apt-get install invidia-glx ?
[08:03] <Shocka311> anybody have any sugestions, I just added a slave hard drive and some new ram, is there anything I can do besides adding more ram that will help my system run faster?
[08:03] <Adramelech> Siv0x: yes
[08:03] <toulouse> oo boy, ive never messed with bios bfore, what do i look for?
[08:03] <klypso> if I had a terminal program that I wanted to use out of the folder, how would I add it to a PATH (the thing used on windows) for linux?
[08:04] <Adramelech> Shocka311 tweaking your system but i wont recommend that if your are new to ubuntu
[08:04] <NeoLithium> toulouse: Just look around the settings, there should be something in there like BOOT: with several options, just select CD drive first, I don't remember exactly what it said, but it's pretty easy to spot.
[08:04] <Siv0x> Adramelech: it said E: Couldn't find package invidia-glx - maybe i should restart my computer.. these updates just got done and the invidia-glx might have been in those updates?
[08:04] <toulouse> ok, it's not a grub problem is it?
[08:04] <Xbehave> shocka311 what do you do on your system?
[08:05] <NeoLithium> toulouse: I think it was a list of boot order, like CD -> Hard Drive -> Floppy Drive, or whatnot.
[08:05] <wyatt_earp> does anyone know how i can install the 32bit version of libpam-* on a 64bit ubuntu system?
[08:05] <Adramelech> klypso: I thinjk you use default shell, so PATH=$PATH,program_path     should do the trick
[08:05] <toulouse> ok, ima dive in there
[08:05] <toulouse> cya
[08:05] <klypso> how do I make a terminal program accesible out of the installation folder?
[08:05] <Shocka311> adramelech: i am very new to ubuntu. I only ask because I read on the ubuntu website that adding ram alone won't help, you need to increase your cache size.
[08:05] <Adramelech> Siv0x: is nvidia no invidia =)
[08:05] <Siv0x> Adremelech: ahhh. lol
[08:06] <Siv0x> Adramelech: brb.
[08:06] <klypso> anyone?
[08:06] <Adramelech> klypso: give me 2 secs
[08:06] <klypso> Ok
[08:06] <Shocka311> xbehave: only 320 m of r
[08:06] <gephalt> How do i configure the network interface to use an Internet connection via a cross-over cable connection to a Windows Box? dhcp?
[08:07] <Adramelech> klypso
[08:07] <Adramelech> open a terminal
[08:07] <klypso> Adramelech: got one open
[08:07] <Adramelech> klypso: write:  PATH=$PATH,myprogrampath
[08:07] <Xbehave> is your system running veryslow
[08:07] <Shocka311> I just ordered more, my pc will only handle 768
[08:08] <wyatt_earp> anyone on how i can install 32bit pam on an amd64?
[08:08] <Shocka311> xbehave:  I just ordered more, my pc will only handle 768
[08:08] <Adramelech> klypso: it only works on the terminal you type it, to make it a default you need to add that line yo .bashrc on your home directory
[08:09] <NeoLithium> Shocka311: You can also use other window managers, something like fluxbox.  Other than that, you'd have to kill any services you don't use, but you'd need to have an idea of what they are doing, so you don't kill something bad, that would stop linux.
[08:09] <Siv0x> Adramelech: okay back. now to what we was doing.
[08:09] <klypso> Adramelech: root@daedalus:/installed/framework-2.7# PATH=$PATH,/installed/framework-2.7
[08:09] <Xbehave> swap space is like extra ram that ubuntu uses when your real ram gets full, i think the system should run fine with 768 unless your putting it under heavy loads, a good way to see is to have a monitoring app in your taskbar
[08:09] <klypso> Adramelech: still can't get to the program
[08:10] <Adramelech> klypso framework? inst thata windows thing?
[08:10] <wastrel> gephalt:  did you get your crossover connection set up?
[08:10] <Adramelech> Siv0x: you got it installed and restarted the pc?
[08:10] <Xbehave> xfce (used in xubuntu) is the lowest resource window manager in the ubuntu family and so should give you the best performance (as i understand it)
[08:10] <Siv0x> Adramelech: yes.
[08:10] <Shocka311> xbehave: I have a monitering app right now. do I need to increase my cache size when I add more ram?
[08:11] <Adramelech> Siv0x: now tipe.... hummmm one sec =)
[08:11] <Siv0x> Adramelech: k np
[08:11] <klypso> Adramelech: just a sec
[08:12] <timfrost> Adramelech: klypso needs 'PATH=$PATH:/path/to/program;export PATH' where /path/to/program is the directory where the program is installed (eg /usr/local/bin or ~/bin).  Note the COLON separator
[08:12] <Shocka311> xbehave: right now I have two sticks of 128 and one stick of 64 but it says I only have 250 MiB
[08:12] <Adramelech> oops
[08:12] <Adramelech> timfrost: oops yes =)
[08:12] <klypso> timfrost and Adramelech: Thanks
[08:12] <Shocka311> xbehave: on my system moniter.
[08:12] <Xbehave> is the ram ddr? im running 1gb of ddr and actual ram usage rarley gets very high, the swap (which after reading a few different guides i set to 1gb) turns out to never get used, but if u have a slower proccesor/onboard graphics you may need more
[08:13] <Xbehave> what does your bios say?
[08:13] <klypso> got it working
[08:14] <Adramelech> klypso: sorry bout the : thing
[08:14] <Shocka311> xbehave: what comand do I use to view my bios?
[08:14] <Xbehave> ive found that order is imprtant with ram of different amounts e.g 64,128,128 may only run 256 but 128,128,64 will pick up 320
[08:14] <Adramelech> Siv0x: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[08:14] <Xbehave> no command the only true gauge is when u boot your pc the little counter that counts your ram
[08:15] <NeoLithium> Shocka311: You have to hit escape when your computer starts up
[08:15] <Xbehave> or f1 or del
[08:15] <Siv0x> Adramelech: Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf". Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup' New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[08:15] <NeoLithium> Or the old classic [Esc]  to enter BIOS <-I miss that old comp of mine ;)
[08:15] <Asc> Anybody have a link to a page that explains how to use all the arcane console syntax?  e.g. &&, {}, %, etc.
[08:16] <Adramelech> Siv0x: If it doesnt work, you can use that backup
[08:16] <Shocka311> I know I have 128 128 64 right now and when I use the free -m command and on my system moniter it is only picking up 250
[08:16] <Siv0x> Adramelech: that backup?
[08:16] <Adramelech> Siv0x: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[08:16] <Xbehave> shocka311 do you have onboard graphics?
[08:16] <lasindi> Hi everyone, I'm looking at buying a new monitor, and I've been considering a widescreen monitor. Does Ubuntu work well with widescreens (are there any problems with aspect ratios)? Any recommendations, even not specifically about Ubuntu compliance?
[08:17] <Siv0x> Adramelech: how do i do this?
[08:17] <Shocka311> xbehave: what are onboard graphics?
[08:17] <Adramelech> Siv0x: join #siv0x =)
[08:17] <Xbehave> a graphics card build into your motherboard
[08:17] <miyako> anyone know of a utility to do a diff on two binary files?
[08:17] <Shocka311> xbehave I don't believe so. I know I have a vid card.
[08:18] <Xbehave> when you boot up your computer what do you get before grub?
[08:18] <Adramelech> miyako: diff dont work with binaries?
[08:19] <miyako> Adramelech - nope, just outputs "these binary files are different"
[08:19] <gaten> !pcmcia
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <Xbehave> !xorg
[08:19] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:19] <Shocka311> xbehave: I get a message that says 32.0 megabytes and then it gives me a Dell screen and then grub
[08:20] <Adramelech> miyako: you need the bytes where these files differ?
[08:20] <zsh> !dvdauthor
[08:20] <ubotu> dvdauthor: create DVD-Video file system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.11-4 (edgy), package size 137 kB, installed size 356 kB
[08:20] <miyako> Adramelech - yeah, I would like to be able to view what bytes differ between the two files
[08:21] <Shocka311> xbehave: when do I see the ram counter on boot, is it after grub?
[08:21] <zsh> !devede > me
[08:21] <Flannel> Shocka311: some modern computers hide that stuff.  Your computer might hide the POST Screen, and you might need to push something to show it (f1 or del, etc)
[08:22] <gephalt> wastrel: yeah, not connected yet-..have to go now.
[08:22] <wastrel> okey dokey
[08:22] <toulouse> hey guys, thanks for the bios tip on booting from cd, it went well, i think gentoo linux sucks tho, it's like a stripped down version of ubuntu, i just tried it on live cd
[08:22] <wastrel> gentoo != stripped down ubuntu
[08:22] <Xbehave> quick boot and boot logo, or options very similar to those
[08:22] <Shocka311> flannel: it gives me a few sec. to hit del and enter setup, will it tell me my ram there?
[08:22] <toulouse> Shocka311: yes it will
[08:22] <toulouse> for me it does
[08:23] <toulouse> and tells you the frequency that your ram is operating at
[08:23] <Shocka311> Right now I have 431.4 MiB set to swap, is that more than I need or should I leave it at that?
[08:23] <mwalker_mewcons1> i need help installing a tar.gz file. When I download the file from the net using Firefox, where should I save the tar.gz file?
[08:23] <zsh> hi! i keep getting an error that the dvd stucture cannot be created when using devede to convert avi files to dvd. anyone know what the problem is???
[08:24] <miyako> Shocka311 - a good rule of thumb is to set the swap to twice the amount of ram you have
[08:24] <Xbehave> it depends on the model tbh, it does on some(probably most) but not all(especially older) but if it doesnt u have to change settings to get it to sho, if it does then your ok.
[08:24] <wastrel> unless you have a lot of ram,
[08:24] <wastrel> unless you want to use hibernate/suspend
[08:24] <toulouse> i have a gig, do i need to customize the swap?
[08:24] <wastrel> i would suggest for a gig of ram you do not in fact need 2 gigs of swap
[08:24] <toulouse> *or ram
[08:24] <toulouse> lol ok
[08:24] <toulouse> wanted to make sure
[08:24] <qball2> Sup guys, would somone want to help me in getting my ati x1950 pro to work with ubuntu 6.10? I'm using the ati linux wiki and the 8.32.5 drivers and when i use them i cant get past the boot screen, it hangs at the very end of the ubuntu loading screen. Then i have to use my backup xorg to get it working again
[08:25] <Flannel> Shocka311: I'd set a limit of about 1gb swap, unless you're doing real heavy graphics stuff, but in that case you'd probably know that already
[08:25] <Shocka311> thats a little less than half of the ram my pc is recognizing.
[08:25] <miyako> yeah, I have 2 gigs of ram and only 1 gig swap
[08:25] <wastrel> if you have disk space to spare, feel free.
[08:25] <Xbehave> a gig of ddr rarely uses any ram unless you use alot of resourse, ive set 1gig swap and never used it
[08:25] <wastrel> if you want to suspend/hibernate it's a different story or so i'm given to understand.
[08:25] <miyako> I'm a ram hog
[08:25] <mwalker_mewcons1> i have thunderbird-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz on my desktop how where do I extract the package and how do I install it?
[08:25] <qball2> any help would be much appreciated
[08:25] <Shocka311> flannel: how do I switch the swap ?
[08:25] <miyako> I think if I had 16GB of ram, I'd still need a bit of swap space lol
[08:26] <Flannel> Shocka311: 'switch'?  you'll need to do some repartitioning
[08:26] <wastrel> qball2:  have you looked at the ubuntu ati howto?
[08:26] <gaten> mwalker_mewcons1:  you can isntall TB from repos easier, but if you want to install from source i can tell u how
[08:26] <qball2> yes, its the same directions at the ati linux wiki
[08:26] <miyako> Flannel - not neccessarily, you can use a swap file
[08:26] <toulouse> miyako: you just need like damn small linux if you like playing with using ram. lol you can use damn small purely in the ram
[08:26] <miyako> just use mkswap
[08:26] <qball2> i use the directions for ubuntu 6.10 word for word, i've tried it several times
[08:26] <Shocka311> flannel: well, I don't know enough to do that so I will just leave the swap to what it is set at now.
[08:26] <mwalker_mewcons1> I would like to learn how from the source, because there are some other source files I would like to install.
[08:26] <qball2> it just hangs at booting at the very end
[08:27] <Flannel> !compile | mwalker_mewcons1
[08:27] <ubotu> mwalker_mewcons1: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:27] <toulouse> qball2: does it boot on the live cd?
[08:27] <kidbuntu> !xine
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <kidbuntu> !video
[08:27] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[08:27] <wastrel> the one on help.ubunut.com is the same as the one on the ati linux wiki?
[08:27] <mwalker_mewcons1> As a windows user is a tar.gz package like windows .zip package?
[08:27] <qball2> the drivers arnt on the live cd are they?
[08:27] <toulouse> ya i thnk so
[08:27] <gaten> mwalker_mewcons1:  more of less, yes
[08:27] <Xbehave> are there anyguides to understanding xorg for 6.10 because i get an error when i run programs in console but i think everything runs fine and ive done the reconfigure
[08:27] <kidbuntu> mwalker_mewcons1: yes
[08:27] <toulouse> qball2: no i meant
[08:27] <toulouse> someone else q'
[08:28] <toulouse> i meant to answer mwalker's question
[08:28] <qball2> all i do is i use the recovery mode and change the xorg back to my backup xorg.conf from before i installed the drivers and it boots up again
[08:28] <Shocka311> toulouse: what does the frequency at which my ram is operating at mean?
[08:28] <qball2> just its really laggy for files because the drivers arnt the ati ones
[08:28] <gaten> Xbehave:  what error
[08:28] <christian1222> how do i specify the directory that GLSlideshow uses in xscreensaver?
[08:28] <Flannel> mwalker_mewcons1: tar groups files into one file, then gz(ip) will compress it (but gzip only compresses single files into an archive), so you use them both in conjunction
[08:29] <zsh> is there a nice simple gui app for making dvd menus and conveting video files to dvd?
[08:29] <gaten> does anyone use linux on a laptop w/ a wireless pcmcia card? i want to buy one and was wondering what works easy
[08:29] <toulouse> if it's higher, it should be faster, the difference in ram is not somehting i know much about, but i believe* that the higher the frequency, the faster the ram
[08:29] <miyako> zsh - I've seen one, can't remember off the top of my head what it's called htough
[08:29] <miyako> *though
[08:29] <Xbehave> its a long 1  4 lines X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 170 | Major opcode:  148 |   Minor opcode:  3 |   Resource id:  0x0
[08:30] <NeoLithium> zsh: devede
[08:30] <Shocka311> toulouse: I tried to install some new ram and on some of the sticks it asked if I wanted to switch to 100Mhz and I didn't know what that meant so I just took the ram out and put the old ram back in
[08:30] <qball2> anyone know anything?
[08:30] <qball2> to my problem?
[08:30] <mwalker_mewcons1> does it matter where I extract the tar.gz file?
[08:30] <toulouse> Shocka311: errk im pretty much a noob, i dont know how to help ya there
[08:30] <christian1222> does anyone know where i can find the directory that GLSlideshow finds its files to display?
[08:30] <toulouse> but i like your name
[08:31] <toulouse> shocka!
[08:31] <Shocka311> toulouse: thanks
[08:31] <zsh> NeoLithium: i tied devede but i keep getting an error and google isnt vey helpful
[08:31] <toulouse> Shocka311: if the shocker dont rocker, then sock er'
[08:31] <gaten> mwalker_mewcons1:  no, you'll be deleting the files after you compile and install
[08:31] <imbecile> what do you guys think of panda desktop secure?
[08:31] <Shocka311> toulouse: lol
[08:31] <qball2> would somone want to help me in getting my ati x1950 pro to work with ubuntu 6.10? I'm using the ati linux wiki and the 8.32.5 drivers and when i use them i cant get past the boot screen, it hangs at the very end of the ubuntu loading screen. Then i have to use my backup xorg to get it working again
[08:31] <mwalker_mewcons1> okay so I can extract on my desktop
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> poningru: Good to have you back, if not you and your server.
[08:32] <gaten> mwalker_mewcons1:  yes
[08:32] <Shocka311> Does anyone know jow to tell what frequency I am operating at now?
[08:32] <NeoLithium> zsh: Which error were you getting? Maybe someone here can help?
[08:32] <toulouse> ok guys***** quiz time! what new linux distro should i try??? -you can't say gentoo, i just tried it, i dont like it
[08:32] <Flannel> toulouse: Ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:32] <toulouse> it's just like ubuntu
[08:32] <toulouse> o
[08:32] <toulouse> ok
[08:32] <gaten> toulouse:  gentoo is a source distribution, unlike ubuntu
[08:33] <qball2> lol yes i have, same one as the one for ati wiki
[08:33] <zsh> NeoLithium: that it cant create the dvd structure. its converting the avi files to mpeg ok but fails immediately afte that
[08:35] <toulouse> gaten: i used the live cd, and it felt much like ubuntu
[08:35] <mwalker_mewcons1> how do I run a file using the Terminal?
[08:35] <toulouse> i guess it's debian based
[08:35] <poningru> tony: having trouble with feisty right now :(
[08:35] <Adramelech> mwalker: typing its name in console
[08:36] <tonyyarusso> poningru: ah
[08:36] <toulouse> feisty is out ? beta?
[08:36] <mwalker_mewcons1> I get a command not found error
[08:36] <poningru> toulouse: not even beta
[08:36] <Adramelech> mwalker: are you in the programs folder?
[08:36] <imbecile> anyone recommend a good anti virus/firewall?
[08:36] <mwalker_mewcons1> yes
[08:37] <mwalker_mewcons1> I see the name of the program in the folder
[08:37] <gaten> imbecile:  firestarter is probably what you want
[08:37] <Adramelech> walker: name of the program?
[08:37] <mwalker_mewcons1> Thunderbird
[08:37] <Siv0x> Hello, can someone help me with getting sound - I have a sound blaster audigy 2 zs sound card.
[08:37] <imbecile> gaten, thanks
[08:37] <Adramelech> walker: ./thunderbird i guess
[08:37] <gaten> mwalker_mewcons1:  did you compile it yet?
[08:37] <mwalker_mewcons1> when I type thunderbird it says bash: thunderbird: command not found
[08:37] <Adramelech> gaten: isnt thunderbird on repos?
[08:37] <userundefine> it's mozilla-thunderbird
[08:38] <gaten> imbecile:  you;re welcome
[08:38] <gaten> Adramelech:  yes, but he wants to learn how to compile stuff
[08:38] <mwalker_mewcons1> ./thunderbird worked
[08:38] <Adramelech> walker: =)
[08:39] <christian1222> does anyone know how i can find which directory GLSlideshow uses?
[08:39] <Adramelech> walker: the dot means the current directory, keep that in mind for future problems
[08:39] <mwalker_mewcons1> okay
[08:39] <mwalker_mewcons1> thanks
[08:39] <Adramelech> np
[08:39] <mwalker_mewcons1> I'm new to this Linux OS
[08:40] <barata> mwalker_mewcons1> I'm new to this Linux OS ---> welcome!! Halelujah ... Praise the TUX
[08:40] <qball2> yo can somone plz help, lol
[08:40] <qball2> would somone want to help me in getting my ati x1950 pro to work with ubuntu 6.10? I'm using the ati linux wiki and the 8.32.5 drivers and when i use them i cant get past the boot screen, it hangs at the very end of the ubuntu loading screen. Then i have to use my backup xorg to get it working again
[08:40] <toulouse> welcome to it, you got quite a support team here in the irc
[08:40] <Rookie_> !ati
[08:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:40] <barata> have you prayed? Did you kind of crying on your conversion?
[08:40] <barata> :) :)
[08:40] <mwalker_mewcons1> I like the idea of Linux being free, but the learning curve is a not a direct transfer from Windows
[08:41] <Adramelech> mwalker: after 2 weeks all becomes clear and logical :P
[08:41] <jisatsu_> it's not so hard once you have everything installed and running
 I like the idea of Linux being free --> first lesson ... never say 'free' incompletely ... always say 'free as in fuck' ... but you still have to pay for the date and dinner!!
[08:41] <Rookie_> try linux by console, makes it alot easier
[08:42] <Flannel> !language | barata
[08:42] <ubotu> barata: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:42] <barata> so .... using linux just like fucking our girl friends ..... are not actually "free" although of course it is "free"
[08:42] <Adramelech> XD
[08:42] <mwalker_mewcons1> lol
[08:42] <barata> remember that lesson!
[08:42] <Adramelech> next time use free as in freedom
[08:43] <mwalker_mewcons1> Learning the terminal is my biggest hurdle
[08:43] <Adramelech> or something to avoidf words
[08:43] <barata> freedom you just get it as you are born!!
[08:43] <mwalker_mewcons1> also learning the file structure of Linux
[08:43] <barata> no work is required by you!
 also learning the file structure of Linux --> then dont use Ubuntu!! Use slackware in your first 6-months
[08:44] <globe> well....what a lively bunch....
[08:44] <barata> Slackware is pure Linux and is good for newbies who really wanna learn
[08:44] <mwalker_mewcons1> Heh it took me a while to get Ubuntu up and running
[08:44] <barata> but if you are careless about system and care more about being productive ... Ubuntu is the best
[08:44] <Rookie_> cant comapiar those 2 distros .... but this is OT
[08:44] <Adramelech> mwalker: dirctory structure is on ubuntu help and man pages
[08:44] <barata> although it's bloated like a pregnant elephant
[08:44] <barata> and so slow
[08:45] <Flannel> mwalker_mewcons1: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html  and http://www.secguru.com/files/cheatsheet/linux-file-structure.jpg
[08:45] <Xbehave> anybody got any ideas for my problem/good xorg guides?
[08:45] <barata> what's your problem Xbehave?
[08:45] <mwalker_mewcons1> thanks Flannel
[08:45] <Rookie_> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:46] <Xbehave> nah ive done that no fix
[08:46] <Siv0x> Can someone help me with ``amixer - i'm trying install my audigy 2 zs sound card.
[08:47] <Xbehave> when i run programs from console, e.g firefox leafpad etc i get  4 lines X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 170 | Major opcode:  148 |   Minor opcode:  3 |   Resource id:  0x0 then the program runs and i dont see any problem but i want to fix my system before i play with stuff
[08:48] <Adramelech> Siv0x: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2598
[08:49] <starz> ive a really wierd problem:
[08:49] <starz> im running breezy and xchat
[08:49] <starz> and i cant seem to dcc chat anything, and i'm dmz/d in the router
[08:49] <starz> and i have no problems in windows
[08:49] <starz> any clue what it could be?
[08:49] <Pie-rate> Xbehave: see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-212025.html
[08:49] <gaten> starz:  any iptables rules defined?
[08:49] <starz> ive a crap airlink router which i think is auto stealth, and i think in windows it has to have ports opened with either traffic or upnp or something crazy
[08:49] <Pie-rate> closest thing i could find to your problem
[08:49] <marither> i have problems in installing wine...i need help!!!!
[08:50] <starz> gaten, dont think so lemme double check
[08:50] <Siv0x> Adramelech: i'll take a look =) thanks
[08:50] <Xbehave> thx pie ill have a look
[08:50] <Pie-rate> marither: this is offtopic to this channel, please see #winehq or /msg me about it
[08:50] <starz> gaten, nope all default policy accept 0 rules
[08:51] <marither> how? can you help me pie-rate?
[08:51] <Pie-rate> quite likely.
[08:51] <starz> its having an effect on torrents, and on dcc chatting, and on dcc sending ;_;
[08:52] <marither> sorry pie-rate coz this is my 1st time to use this
[08:52] <gaten> starz:  that sounds like a router problem
[08:53] <starz> gaten, yes i understand
[08:53] <starz> thing is it works great in winblowz
[08:53] <starz> so its _really_ an os problem somewhere........
[08:53] <gaten> !iconutils
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iconutils - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <starz> gaten, any clue how windows opens ports by default?
[08:54] <starz> is there some packet it sends out prior to regular traffic
[08:54] <rapid> starz: its in the firewall settings
[08:54] <starz> or something every so often so to speak?
[08:54] <starz> rapid, im dmz'd
[08:54] <cens0red> Hi. Can someone help me? I can't get my new dvd drive to work. It's a liteON shm-165P6S . When I try to play DVDs, I get this error "read: Error cracking CSS key"
[08:55] <cens0red> Sometimes I get video output, but it's horribly garbled. And there's no audio.
[08:55] <rapid> starz: figure out what port is being used for DCC and open that port.
[08:55] <rapid> is all i can think of
[08:55] <Pie-rate> cens0red: that's a problem with libdvdread, not your dvd drive
[08:55] <starz> rapid, i tried range porting, i tried application porting, and ive tried ip porting.
[08:55] <gaten> starz:  i agree. you could try dccing as root, see if that helps
[08:55] <Pie-rate> cens0red: hold on while i do some reading :)
[08:55] <vulcanius> wow, I just crapped all over myself
[08:55] <starz> o:
[08:55] <cens0red> Pie-rate cheers.
[08:56] <Siv0x> vulcanius: lol..
[08:56] <starz> hm lemme start antoher instance of xchat.... that would be interesting... and that would make it permissions somewhere at fault right?
[08:56] <moktod> i'm attempting to modprove ndiswrapper, but receiving an error: FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[08:56] <vulcanius> and now it looks like Firefox is taking a dump on my chest... thank you firefox
[08:56] <moktod> any clue how I can track this down
[08:56] <rapid> moktod you need ndiswrapper.
[08:57] <vulcanius> moktod: did you compile ndiswrapper as a module?
[08:57] <moktod> i used apt-get to install it
[08:57] <Siv0x> vulcanius: werent you the one that tried to help me with my sound last time?
[08:57] <Pie-rate> cens0red: have you installed libdvdread3?
[08:57] <Pie-rate> cens0red: if so, run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[08:57] <vulcanius> Siv0x: I started to, but it looked like crimsun was already helping you out
[08:57] <cens0red> Pie-rate yeah  I did all the stuff on the wiki. Still the same problem.
[08:57] <Pie-rate> cens0red: otherwise, run apt-get install libdvdread3, then run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[08:57] <moktod> i have ndiswrapper (i loaded the correct driver for my card)
[08:58] <moktod> ndiswrapper -l shows it
[08:58] <Adramelech> Siv0x: got sound already?
[08:58] <moktod> but...the module wont load
[08:58] <Siv0x> vulcanius: yes, i know. but i'm having trouble with it again.
[08:58] <vulcanius> Siv0x: what is happening?
[08:58] <Pie-rate> cens0red: have you tried a different dvd? what player are you using?
[08:58] <Siv0x> Adramelech: nope - couldnt make anything out to help me on that forum.
[08:58] <Siv0x> vulcanius: no sound. lol
[08:58] <moktod> can anyone share with me the uncommented portion of their /etc/modprobe/ndiswrapper?
[08:58] <starz> ok no that doesnt work.
[08:58] <Pie-rate> cens0red: are you sure you ran /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh?
[08:58] <cens0red> Pie-rate it's the liteON shm-165P6S .
[08:59] <cens0red> Pie-rate I don't have another dvd. :/
[08:59] <starz> gaten, // rapid could it be the version of xchat??
[08:59] <Pie-rate> cens0red: no, what software player are you using?
[08:59] <vulcanius> Siv0x: are you using regular PC speakers or are you going to a receiver through SPDIF, optical, etc?
[08:59] <Adramelech> Siv0x: what you did last time? single command? or a config file?
[08:59] <starz> running 2.4.4 :/ i odnt like 2.6.x
[08:59] <Pie-rate> cens0red: like totem, mplayer, vlc?
[08:59] <Siv0x> vulcanius: all i had to do to get sound last time was something like ``amixer set default and i set my sound blaster audigy 2 zs to default sound card. and it worked. - i just cant remember the command
[08:59] <cens0red> Pie-rate yes I'm sure I ran. I ran it again just then. I have tried  totem, mplayer, vlc, and ogle.
[08:59] <rapid> starz: maybe. try a DCC GET
[09:00] <gaten> starz:  its possible. you could check the xchat forums
[09:00] <Siv0x> Adramelech: all i know is it started with ``amixer, then it asked me which card i wanted set as default.
[09:00] <starz> well im gonna enable backports and install 2.6.x instead and try it
[09:00] <Siv0x> vulcanius: i am using regular pc speakers, 2 of them and a subwoofer.
[09:01] <starz> rapid, i can get dcc gets from most ppl if they are ported correctly or not firewalled already
[09:01] <vulcanius> Siv0x: have you verified the card is recognized? like through doing "aplay -l" and making sure it exists?
[09:01] <starz> but if they have any firewall or are ported shabbily then no go !__________!
[09:01] <starz> perhaps my router needs some time off >.>
[09:01] <rapid> perhaps, not.
[09:01] <starz> lol
[09:01] <Siv0x> vulcanius: actually no, i'm new with linux.. i can try that now that you told me the command.
[09:02] <gaten> anyone know why i cant change the icon of my wow shortcut? ive extracted the icon, even tried renaming it to png
[09:02] <harry> !partition
[09:02] <vulcanius> yes, in a terminal type "aplay -l" and paste it to me in a private message
[09:02] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:02] <oth> I installed apache2, mysql, php, phpmyadmin
[09:02] <oth> php works fine
[09:02] <rapid> you now have a lamp.
[09:02] <oth> when I access the phpmyadmin dir from the browser
[09:02] <harry> !fstab
[09:02] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:02] <Pie-rate> cens0red: not sure what else it could be
[09:03] <oth> I get download a phtml file
[09:03] <cens0red> Pie-rate well I've been searching all the forums. Heaps of people with the same problem, no solutions.
[09:03] <oth> anyone got a clue what might cause this ?
[09:04] <starz> oh yeah gaten // rapid in dapper [i downgraded from edgy to dapper to breezy lol cpu issues // disk access issues]  i could dcc chat but only if i was ssl connected to ircd which was really unusual....
[09:04] <vulcanius> oth, maybe your apache server does not recognize the file extension .phtml as a php file
[09:04] <Siv0x> vulcanius: did you get that pm?
[09:04] <vulcanius> um..... i don't believe so
[09:05] <Siv0x> vulcanius: how about just join #siv0x and help me there? - i'm using gaim so i doubt its working right.
[09:05] <oth> vulcanius:  but there are no phtml fils in there
[09:05] <starz> interesting......... yeah upgrading didnt help either guyz
[09:05] <vulcanius> sure
[09:05] <Siv0x> k.
[09:05] <oth> there are only .php files
[09:05] <starz> i think there was an issue with this in dapper before... perhaps it was a kernel thing
[09:05] <starz> is there a guide so i can build a kernel that is later on in the build?
[09:06] <starz> Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Tue Dec 12 15:56:39 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:06] <starz> perhaps i could build kernel say 2.6.16-xx
[09:06] <starz> !compile kernel
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compile kernel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <Deon|away> is there a command in *nix to show my current CPU usage?
[09:07] <mcquaid> hello, I've been having random lockups with my nvidia card.  I was using a rep with the latest for beryl.  I decided to downgrade to offical edgy nvidia
[09:07] <CheyenneD> Can anyone tell me some free ISO creating program for Windows(WINE) or native linux?
[09:07] <vulcanius> Deon|away: "top"
[09:07] <mcquaid> i actually downgraded to edgy-security update and now the nvidia driver won't work so I'm using nv
[09:07] <gaten> starz:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835
[09:08] <mcquaid> so I decided to downgrade to edgy version that I originally had (not the security update one) and when I force that version it wants to install:
[09:08] <Deon|away> vulcanius: thank you
[09:08] <starz> gaten, thanx i'll check it out ^_^
[09:08] <gaten> CheyenneD:  you can create an iso in ubuntu by browsing for the file and right clicking on it and selecting 'write to disk'
[09:08] <vulcanius> np
[09:08] <mcquaid> xen-image and xen-restricted-modules
[09:08] <gaten> starz:  np
[09:08] <mcquaid> wtf is xen?
[09:08] <arrenlex> mcquaid: A virtualiser.
[09:08] <arrenlex> !xen
[09:08] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[09:08] <mcquaid> okay.....
[09:09] <mcquaid> ok but i don't want, nor do i think i need xen.  So if i want to install the original edgy nvidia driver why is it flagging this for installation?
[09:10] <gaten> anyone run beryl and wow? im wondering about the performace hit
[09:10] <_Adramelech_> mcquaid: What your video card?
[09:10] <starz> gaten, am i restricted to 6.11 ? or can i apply that further up the chain? i would like to go to at least 14 or 16 if i can
[09:11] <mcquaid> geforce 6200
[09:11] <gaten> starz:  no idea why you would be. im on 15
[09:11] <mcquaid> _Adramelech_, arrenlex I was using this rep for latest nvidia http://albertomilone.com/drivers/edgy/nonlegacy/32bit binary/ so I can use beryl
[09:12] <mcquaid> but I'm having issues and just want the stalk nvidia driver edgy provides
[09:12] <mwalker_mewcons1> how do I install a tar.bz2?
[09:12] <starz> o awesome thats exactly what i'm looking for!!!
[09:12] <_Adramelech_> mcquaid: there was a bug with 9xxx series but dunno if 6200 is afected i think only 3xxx and 4xxx
[09:12] <mwalker_mewcons1> is it the same as tar.gz?
[09:12] <gaten> lol
[09:12] <gaten> mwalker_mewcons1:  same ideam different compression
[09:12] <mcquaid> _Adramelech_, ya it's probably not my issue.  I think it's more acpi related
[09:12] <mcquaid> it was a stab in the dark but I thought I'd try downgrading
[09:12] <gaten> mwalker_mewcons1:  bzip2 (bz2) rather than gzip (.gz)
[09:13] <mcquaid> don't know why the nvidia edgy security won't find any X screens
[09:13] <mcquaid> and I find it more puzzling if I want the original edgy version that it's forcing xen
[09:13] <mcquaid> not sure what to do now
[09:13] <_Adramelech_> mcquaid: same happened to me and it was cause of restricted modules no matching the nvidia drivers
[09:13] <_Adramelech_> mcquaid: so i went back to the milestone ones :)
[09:14] <starz> gaten, what flav ubuntu u got/ breezy/dapper/edgy ?
[09:14] <mcquaid> which milestone ones are you referring to?
[09:14] <_Adramelech_> the repo u said
[09:14] <mcquaid> ah
[09:14] <mcquaid> damn it
[09:14] <mcquaid> heh
[09:14] <gaten> starz:  drapper
[09:15] <gaten> starz:  and edgy on my server
[09:15] <starz> yup thought so ... linux-tree only up to 2.6.12 for breezy up there... *checks backports*
[09:15] <cens0red> Pie-rate hey I just went out and bought another dvd. It works!!
[09:15] <_Adramelech_> XD
[09:15] <_Adramelech_> cens0red: you fixed ti the windows way :P
[09:16] <starz> _Adramelech_, he seems to be so happy he left XD
[09:16] <_Adramelech_> :(
[09:17] <mcquaid> well, forced a downgrade of restricted modules and nvidia-glx and it's not flagging xen to be installed now
[09:17] <mcquaid> so i'll install that and see how it goes
[09:17] <alienseer23> can anyone tell me how to configure the alsa to 5.1 by default? (or even just repeated stereo to the rear chanells)?
[09:17] <mcquaid> even though I think it's an acpi issue
[09:17] <mcquaid> btw, i tried disabling acpi and my system seg faulted on bootup
[09:17] <mcquaid> why would acpi need to be enabled?
[09:17] <_Adramelech_> mwalker: lol
[09:18] <_Adramelech_> mcquaid: lol
[09:18] <vulcanius> _Adramelech_: heh, talking to imaginary people now?
[09:18] <vulcanius> doh
[09:18] <mcquaid> what's funny. that my system seg faults without acpi? i know it's a riot
[09:18] <tim167> how do I rotate an image 90 in OpenOffice ???
[09:18] <_Adramelech_> i know :(
[09:20] <IZprince> this could take a while, I have to build WINE from source, cause all they have is a 386 package
[09:20] <hastesaver> tim167, why are you using OpenOffice to edit images? Isn't it for word processing, spreadsheets, etc.?
[09:20] <IZprince> they say go get a sandwich
[09:20] <IZprince> more like go on vacation
[09:21] <hastesaver> IZprince, 386 should be fine, right? Many Ubuntu packages are -386 by default, IIRC
[09:21] <tim167> hastesaver: i just need to put several scanned documents into one file, some have to be rotated
[09:21] <IZprince> would it run alright on AMD64?
[09:22] <IZprince> I wasn't sure so I decided to just grab the source
[09:22] <hastesaver> IZprince, oh, sorry. Too self-centred of me :-)
[09:22] <hastesaver> IZprince, no, it probably won't work. sorry
[09:23] <tim167> hastesaver: I cant beleive that a function as basic as rotating an image is so well hidden in OpenOffice
[09:23] <daishadar> whenever i apt-get install something, it lists suggested packages but i always forget to install them later... is there a way to list all suggested packages for currently installed packages?
[09:23] <IZprince> tim167: Practical joke?
[09:24] <hastesaver> tim167, yeah, I hate OpenOffice too... try #users.openoffice.org maybe
[09:24] <IZprince> I haven't messed with Open Office much
[09:25] <IZprince> thats based on Star Office though, which was a real dog last time I used it
[09:25] <IZprince> of course that was like 6 years ago on Windows
[09:25] <hastesaver> tim167, but of course, you could, in principle, rotate the image outside Oo.o (in an image editor), and then plug it in
[09:25] <IZprince> and I believe everything ran in a JAVA VM
[09:25] <ootput> gday fellas, i've downloaded a gtk2 theme from gnome-look, but I can't seem to make System-preferences-themes recognise it after copying it to /usr/share/themes
[09:26] <gaten> daishadar:  what? suggested packages for currently installed packages?
[09:26] <ootput> how do i get it recognised without restarting my session?
[09:26] <_Adramelech_> ooput: drag and drop the downloaded file to the theme settings window
[09:26] <hastesaver> daishadar, yes. One way I know is to start Aptitude :-)
[09:27] <ootput> _Adramelech_: oh, simple enough!
[09:28] <ootput> _Adramelech_: cheers mate!
[09:28] <con-man> im trying to copy a directory but it keeps omitting it
[09:28] <con-man>  cp World\ of\ Warcraft/ /home/con-man/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/
[09:28] <daishadar> hastesaver, oh ;)
[09:28] <con-man> ideas
[09:29] <ootput> con-man: cp -rv path_to_source path_to_destination
[09:29] <hastesaver> con-man, cp -R.
[09:29] <ootput> con-man: the man-page mentions recursive copy
[09:29] <hastesaver> con-man, also, if the spaces bother you, use cp "World<TAB>", the quotes should take care of things.
[09:30] <con-man> it worked thanks
[09:30] <con-man> and i dont type spaces
[09:30] <con-man> i tab
[09:30] <con-man> cause yes, that would bother me
[09:31] <saturn_> Please help me to upgrade system from 6.06 to 6.10!
[09:31] <_Adramelech_> saturn: Have you tried any method?
[09:32] <hastesaver> !upgrade | saturn_
[09:32] <ubotu> saturn_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:32] <saturn_> yes, gksu "update-manager -c -d", but there were some errors
[09:32] <_Adramelech_> wich errors?
[09:33] <saturn_> there were not some archives on server
[09:34] <_Adramelech_> saturn: did you reboot?
[09:34] <saturn_> yes
[09:35] <IZprince> oh boy, it's giving me page after page of warnings
[09:35] <IZprince> this is gonna be great
[09:35] <saturn_> now I'm trying the ubotu's url
[09:35] <_Adramelech_> saturn: then i guess u got edgy
[09:36] <con-man> join #wine
[09:36] <_Adramelech_> saturn: System->About Ubuntu
[09:36] <con-man> im having issues with the audio tab of winecfg
[09:36] <con-man> can't create mcop directory
[09:36] <aNi`> hi all can anyone please write a guide to the hal.dll missing (when booting windoze)  issue after edgy install?
[09:36] <saturn_> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[09:36] <saturn_> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[09:37] <daishadar> is the signal strength output of network-manager-gnome reliable? my wifi card is literally 1 foot from the router and i'm getting 61%...
[09:37] <saturn_> what can I do with those errors?
[09:37] <con-man> im having issues with the audio tab of winecfg
[09:37] <con-man> can't create mcop directory
[09:38] <hastesaver> saturn_, remove them from your sources.list.
[09:38] <saturn_> how?
[09:38] <hastesaver> !repositories | saturn_
[09:38] <ubotu> saturn_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:38] <_Adramelech_> saturn: back it up first =)
[09:39] <aNi`> hi all can anyone please write a guide to the hal.dll missing (when booting windoze) issue after edgy install?
[09:39] <con-man> im having issues with the audio tab of winecfg
[09:39] <con-man> can't create mcop directory
[09:39] <_Adramelech_> con_man: permissions?
[09:39] <con-man> _Adramelech_: what do you mean
[09:40] <_Adramelech_> con:man: why it cant, whats the exact error
[09:41] <con-man> _Adramelech_: when I click the audio tab winecfg closes, and I get the message in console:can't create mcop directory
[09:41] <saturn_> _Adramelech_:Please, don't laugh, I'm using Ubuntu just 2 months and English isn't my language!
[09:42] <xipietotec> can I put a svn address in my sources.list? not a deb-svn but a straight svn://svn
[09:42] <_Adramelech_> saturn: me neither
[09:42] <xipietotec> ?
[09:42] <con-man> _Adramelech_: when I click the audio tab winecfg closes, and I get the message in console:can't create mcop directory
[09:42] <saturn_> just say what I need to upgrade with those errors
[09:43] <KenSentMe> Ubuntu reacts when i insert a SD card into the card reader of my laptop, but memory stick isn't recognised. For what package should i file a bug, or how to get it solved?
[09:43] <_Adramelech_> saturn: you entered the command you told me and reboot right?
[09:43] <hastesaver> saturn_, go to your repository list, and remove those freecontrib stuff.
[09:43] <xipietotec> KenSentMe: what kind of memory stick?
[09:43] <KenSentMe> xipietotec: Memory Stick Pro
[09:44] <xipietotec> KenSentMe: the Playstation ones?
[09:44] <saturn_>  _Adramelech_: yes
[09:44] <xipietotec> err PSP
[09:44] <_Adramelech_> con-man: http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-bugs/2006-September/038594.html
[09:44] <KenSentMe> xipietotec: no, just a 'regular' MS Pro Duo from my SE cellphone
[09:44] <lordhelmet> what can i use to open and read .chm files...
[09:45] <_Adramelech_> saturn: didnt anything change? go to system->About Ubuntu and read the current version you have
[09:45] <xipietotec> KenSentMe: I'd try formatting it and uninstalling any pre-packaged firmware on it if you can...that solves 90% of all problems
[09:45] <lordhelmet> ah nm found it
[09:46] <saturn_>  _Adramelech_: 6.06
[09:46] <KenSentMe> xipietotec: but there's totally no reaction in dmesg when i insert it
[09:46] <KenSentMe> xipietotec: and formatting can't be done because all my phonenumbers are on it
[09:46] <lordhelmet> okay i take that back....i can preview with KChmPart in konqueror....but....
[09:47] <_Adramelech_> saturn: so the upgrade abort when it didnt find those files?
[09:47] <lordhelmet> kchmviewer
[09:47] <Xbehave> !ubotu mouse > Xbehave
[09:47] <Jazon> hi.  ubuntu has stopped recognizing my swap partition signature.  how can I recify this?
[09:48] <saturn_>  _Adramelech_: some people tells me to edit some list, what it means and could it help the problem?
[09:48] <_Adramelech_> saturn: yes
[09:48] <xipietotec> KenSentMe: does the Memory Stick Duo use the same slot as an SD card slot?
[09:48] <KenSentMe> xipietotec: yes it does
[09:48] <saturn_>  _Adramelech_: repositary list
[09:49] <_Adramelech_> saturn: join #saturn channel
[09:49] <KenSentMe> xipietotec: lspci even has this line 04:01.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 08)
[09:49] <xipietotec> KenSentMe: I'd try formatting the Memory stick in Windows, or removing the software through whatever onboard installed utility might be on it
[09:50] <xipietotec> I had a similar problem with a USB drive awhile back...the only way to remove the installed software/semi-firmware was to use the program in windows, to uninstall it.
[09:51] <harry> !gparted
[09:51] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[09:51] <xipietotec> harry: gparted wouldn't even remove it
[09:52] <xipietotec> the software literally locked the system volume beyond all ability to add permissions in linux
[09:52] <harry> xipietotec: what do you mean? did i said something
[09:53] <Casanova> [OT]  http://prashblog.com/2006/12/29/kurukshetra-07-online-programming-contest/
[09:53] <Jazon> my swap problem happened moving to edgy
[09:53] <xipietotec> harry: thought you were referencing gparted to me being unable to remove some firmware from a USB drive in linux, awhile back. sorry =)
[09:55] <harry> xipietotec: ah ok, anyway can gparted merge my other partition to my current partition in ubuntu? i want to remove my windows permanently and add the space to my ubuntu w/o reformatting everything
[09:56] <xipietotec> harry: beyond my expertise. =\
[09:56] <Jazon> harry: back up all your data!!!!  and then use the gParted LIVECD
[09:57] <Jazon> I have done it.  but it is not without risk.  the livecd is by far the best way.
[09:57] <Jazon> any comments on my suggestion?
[09:57] <harry> Jazon: do i really have to insert the livecd instead of installing the gparted and remove the windows and then add that paritition to my ubuntu?
[09:58] <Jazon> harry: use the livecd.
[09:58] <Jazon> boot off the cd
[09:58] <Jazon> and back up data
[09:58] <harry> Jazon: why?
[09:58] <anto9us> harry, you can do it that way, you can add it as an extra mount point called /data or something
[09:58] <con-man> WOOT
[09:59] <con-man> I GOT WoW WORKING IN LINUX
[09:59] <anto9us> harry, you can't work on mounted partitions though, which is why Jazon suggests the livecd
[09:59] <con-man> <----THE MAN
[09:59] <aNi`> they need to fix the ubuntu forum
[09:59] <DarthLappy> con-man: Apparently it's not a difficult feat...
[09:59] <kraut> moin
[09:59] <_Adramelech_> con-man: glad it works =)
[09:59] <harry> anto9us: but trying to make my partition as a whole again I really have to reformat everything?
[09:59] <con-man> DarthLappy: its not hard for most ppl
[09:59] <Plutoprime> heh... i hope the day comes when you don't have to feel like you have climbed mount everest just because you installed a computer game :)
[09:59] <con-man> DarthLappy: i had other problems
[09:59] <con-man> I agree
[10:00] <fnord_> lol everest is easy copmared to that
[10:00] <con-man> but now that ive climbed the mountain
[10:00] <con-man> im happy
[10:00] <con-man> and im off to bed
[10:00] <con-man> i have to be up in 3.5 hours for week
[10:00] <Plutoprime> oh come on
[10:00] <con-man> work
[10:00] <harry> Jazon: ok, so I dont have to reformat everything but  i can delete the other partition and add it to my current ubuntu w/o reformatting
[10:00] <Plutoprime> a few raids wouldnt hurt
[10:00] <anto9us> harry, you can add an extra mount point without any reformatting
[10:00] <con-man> hahaha
[10:00] <Plutoprime> :)
[10:00] <con-man> 3.5 hours to sleep before work
[10:01] <harry> anto9us: but doing that, you also recommend using the live cd instead?
[10:01] <harry> Jazon: ok, so I dont have to reformat everything but  i can delete the other partition and add it to my current ubuntu w/o reformatting?
[10:01] <anto9us> harry, no need
[10:01] <Pie-rate> Hey cool, I found something gthumb image viewer is actually good for: crashing! A lot!
[10:01] <harry> anto9us: i'll just install it then
[10:02] <Jazon> harry: dude!  use the livecd!!!!!
[10:02] <fnord_> on kubuntu when you let your mouse sit over a image file for a sec a larger preview pops up along with file info,is there a program to do that for gnome?
[10:02] <Jazon> harry: it is painless.  it is only like 32 meg or something
[10:02] <Plutoprime> fnord_: not yet to my knowledge
[10:03] <Plutoprime> fnord_: you could file a an enhancement bug in GNOME bugzilla
[10:03] <Plutoprime> but do a search.. there is one probably already
[10:03] <Plutoprime> it'll be implemented by GNOME 5.0
[10:03] <Jazon> anto9us: why do think not necessary?  livecd is the safest way to use gparted when modding your system partition imho.
[10:03] <fnord_> cool
[10:04] <Plutoprime> i just hope that i'm not a senior citizen by the time 5.0 comes out :p
[10:04] <fnord_> can you use gparted to resize a active partition?
[10:04] <anto9us> Jazon, personally, I think there's less danger for him this way, he's not working on his existing Ubuntu partitions, just adding new ones
[10:04] <Plutoprime> no
[10:04] <Plutoprime> not like partition magic at least
[10:04] <anto9us> fnord_, yes, you can resize a partition provided it's not mounted
[10:05] <firepol> hi there, i want to connect a printer to ,y ubuntu box and share it with another ubuntu box. is it correct to install it first (test it) locally and then share it? how to share it? ;)
[10:05] <fnord_> i only have 1 partition(not counting swap)and i want to resize and add a new one with the newly freed space
[10:05] <Jazon> fnord_: again, I say gparted livecd.  its valuable tool, and small.
[10:05] <fnord_> no live cd :(
[10:05] <Jazon> be careful though.
[10:05] <violot> Make is ignoring the first few chars of my variables 0_o
[10:05] <fnord_> lol my aim away message right now is "fdisk is your friend"
[10:06] <vulcanius> anyone know of a 3D8 chess game for gnome?
[10:06] <violot> Screw it, it's 4:00 AM
[10:06] <anto9us> Jazon, good advice :)
[10:07] <Plutoprime> vulcanius: did you just read digg?
[10:07] <fnord_> theres a 3d chess game but its the kind with 3 boards
[10:07] <vulcanius> Plutoprime: exactly
[10:07] <harry> Jazon   anto9us: so whats best you recommend guys?
[10:07] <kadk> what permission can you give to a user if you want him to just download and not modify and delete?
[10:07] <vulcanius> Plutoprime: what else would I be doing at 4 in the morning? lol
[10:07] <Plutoprime> hehe
[10:07] <Plutoprime> HAHAHA
[10:07] <Plutoprime> omg.. so true so true
[10:07] <Plutoprime> respect man.. respect
[10:08] <vulcanius> lol
[10:08] <Plutoprime> I just wish everything in the real world would come with a digg/burry button
[10:08] <Plutoprime> like people .. etc
[10:08] <Jazon> harry: best advice?  do a complete backup onto another hdd.  then once you have verified *all* is backed up perfectly, use the gparted livecd to play with your partitions.  if things screw up, you then have your backup :-)
[10:08] <vulcanius> my Lame buried list would be huge
[10:08] <Plutoprime> heh
[10:08] <fnord_> wrong place but would a windows 2000 cd autoboot and let me resize my partition during a install?i havent used windows in a long time
[10:09] <harry> Jazon: the problem is I don't have a tool for backing up my huge file.
[10:09] <Jazon> harry cp is your friend
[10:09] <Jazon> harry: what do you mean a tool
[10:09] <harry> Jazon: cp? cellphone?
[10:09] <imbecile> hey how do i install codecs to movie player?
[10:09] <Plutoprime> fnord_: no
[10:10] <Plutoprime> fnord_: use an ubuntu livecd instead
[10:10] <vulcanius> mmmmmmmm....my fingers smell like cat treats
[10:10] <harry> Jazon: a writer.. i dont have a thing, and my USB flash drive is only 128 mb
[10:10] <harry> imbecile! codecs!
[10:10] <harry> codecd!
[10:10] <harry> codecs!
[10:10] <Jazon> harry: use gmail or something then
[10:10] <imbecile> in terminal?
[10:11] <harry> imbecile: what media player are you using?
[10:11] <Plutoprime> wow.. i thought harry was calling someone imbecile
[10:11] <oturr> hi every one i have a problem. I installed google picassa with this command sudo dpkg --force-architecture -i picasa_2.2.2820-5_i386.deb. It was installed but doesnt work. Do u have any idea. 10x in advance
[10:11] <Plutoprime> but then again.. he was calling someone imbecile...
[10:11] <Jazon> harry: but backup your data at least.  use hjsplit to break up large data files into 10mb chunks and email them to yourself on your gmail ccount
[10:11] <Jazon> *account
[10:11] <Plutoprime> the guy just happened to be imbecile...
[10:11] <harry> Plutoprime: no... hahahahaha. its the name of the user
[10:11] <imbecile> im trying to open them in vlc but i dont see the option
[10:12] <Plutoprime> i think i really need to go sleep.. don't listen to me
[10:12] <harry> Jazon: thats good, whats hjsplit... i'm really a newbie
[10:12] <imbecile> yes go to sleep plutoprime
[10:12] <hdibani> hi everybody, i am n edgy and just followed the steps here to install beryl http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA. the problem is now i have beryl working without window borders
[10:13] <harry> imbecile: what them? please be specific
[10:13] <hdibani> does anybody know what i might have done wrong?
[10:13] <Jazon> harry: google hjsplit. oh, and the windoze version is easiest - works perfectly inwine
[10:13] <Pie-rate> Any way to get Folding@Home in a repository?
[10:13] <imbecile> harry, i am trying to open movie file on ntfs partition
[10:13] <fnord_> vulcanius, what kind/flavor?i like the beef ones
[10:14] <imbecile> !codecs
[10:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:14] <harry> imbecile: you mean from the ntfs partition? what kind of movie file, avi, mkv, .....etc?
[10:14] <fnord_> hdibani, try #beryl or #xgl
[10:14] <imbecile> harry, avi
[10:14] <harry> imbecile: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:15] <imbecile> dapper drake
[10:15] <fnord_> how do i uninstall cups?
[10:15] <fnord_> completly?
[10:15] <harry> imbecile: i'm not really familiar with it, when i was still using dapper, i'm using mplayer to play my avi files.
[10:15] <hdibani> fnord: i have tried $beryl but i have the same problem
[10:16] <imbecile> ill try mplayer
[10:16] <harry> imbecile: try doing "sudo apt-get install mplayer" that should be playing avi
[10:16] <harry> imbecile: i'm currently using edgy
[10:16] <SS2> can I copy mtab entrys into fstab?
[10:17] <_Adramelech_> hdibani: if window borders and decorations are not showing up, try changing DefaultDepth to 24 in the Screen section
[10:17] <gaten> does anyone use portsentry?
[10:17] <fnord_> how do i uninstall CUPS?i dont have a printer so i shouldedt need it right?
[10:18] <gaten> fnord_:  you could simply disable the service.
[10:18] <SS2> right, but you don't need to uninstall it
[10:18] <fnord_> how?
[10:19] <gaten> someone correct me if im wrong but sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/cupsys should do the trick
[10:19] <sovieticool> hi all
[10:20] <sovieticool> i don't know how to upgrade to the last ubuntu version
[10:20] <harry> !hjsplit
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hjsplit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <sovieticool> i have 5.1
[10:21] <SS2> sovieticool: there is no ubuntu version 5.1
[10:21] <sovieticool> :)
[10:21] <sovieticool> 5.10
[10:21] <sovieticool> sorruy
[10:21] <sovieticool> sorry\
[10:21] <SS2> sounds better now
[10:22] <sovieticool> ok can you help me ?
[10:22] <theflyingfool> i have my wireless card working, well sort of, but i was wondering if it might work better using ndiswrapper
[10:22] <SS2> sovieticool: I have never upgraded a system to a new release, always did a re install
[10:22] <stjepan> I need some help... got banned at ##c and can't contact the channel operator there... can anyone help me?
[10:23] <SS2> because like this, it could never go wrong ;)
[10:23] <sovieticool> maybe can you help to upgrade my firefox
[10:23] <sovieticool> i want to install the lastest but i don't have the install cd
[10:23] <sovieticool> and will take to much to ship it
[10:24] <sovieticool> i am from ROMANIA
[10:24] <SS2> no download posibillities?
[10:24] <imbecile> harry, it says "you do not have a decoder to handle this file,you might need to install the necessary plugin"
[10:24] <imbecile> but is a regular avi
[10:24] <imbecile> i know vlc handles this
[10:24] <lazz> hi guys I do have important question is some one can answer me
[10:25] <SS2> sovieticool: you can still order dapper ship-its, they are still availible
[10:25] <theflyingfool> i am having some slight issues with downloading email with on my edgy box, would using ndiswrapper with the driver from the cd that came with it fix that?
[10:25] <lemome> -([ # Appears as] )-([MAX-SicrpTv2.0G ] )-
[10:25] <lemome> -([hi ] )-
[10:25] <lazz> I have installed windows on my pc and the boot loader for ubuntu is gone..how to I reinstall it from the live CD?
[10:25] <lemome> -([welcom ] )-
[10:25] <gaten> !grub
[10:25] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:26] <imbecile> anyone, i am trying to play avi in mplayer and it says "you do not have a decoder to handle this file,you might need to install the necessary plugin" any sugestions?
[10:26] <SS2> imbecile: yep, missing decoder
[10:26] <gaten> sovieticool:  you can just download from their website and install it.
[10:26] <imbecile> ss2 how do install codecs?
[10:26] <lazz> thank you guys
[10:27] <SS2> imbecile: try it with the w32codecs paket
[10:27] <SS2> imbecile: you will find it at the mplayer homepage, it is also availible in a deb package
[10:27] <imbecile> SS2, how do i find that?
[10:27] <fnord_> !codecs
[10:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:27] <harry> imbecile: mplayer also handles it
[10:27] <SS2> just answered
[10:27] <imbecile> SS2, ahh thanks
[10:27] <fnord_> !codecs | imbecile,
[10:27] <ubotu> imbecile,: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:28] <SS2> that page is also fine :)
[10:28] <lemome> -([ # Appears as] )-([MAX-SicrpTv2.0G ] )-
[10:28] <fnord_> imbecile, that link should have every codec youll need,but remember some of them are ieagle to use in the us
[10:29] <Agent_K> hi
[10:29] <jakub_> siema all
[10:29] <jakub_> sa tu polacy?
[10:29] <jakub_> ...
[10:30] <Agent_K> ive finally decided to ditch windows for ever
[10:30] <jakub_> chyba nie
[10:30] <jakub_> trudno
[10:30] <Agent_K> ok no english in here then
[10:31] <SS2> lol
[10:31] <imbecile> ok im @ http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/ i am running x86 dapper rake which codec pack should i use?
[10:31] <Wyglif> hi! I have a problem connecting to my share from linux to linux box. i get error timeout connecting to <IP_ADDRESS>:445
[10:31] <imbecile> for avi
[10:32] <SS2> !Codecs | imbecile
[10:32] <ubotu> imbecile: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:32] <imbecile> i wish i could just get vlc player going
[10:32] <SS2> imbecile: look at this page
[10:32] <fnord_> imbecile, if your looking for a quick fix try automarix or easyubuntu,be warned theyve been know to cause problems
[10:32] <fnord_> !easyubuntu
[10:32] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[10:32] <Nameeater> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[10:32] <fnord_> !automatix
[10:32] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:33] <SS2> easyubuntu and the rest of them are evil...
[10:33] <SS2> not to users, but to your system
[10:33] <_Adramelech_> ?
[10:34] <theflyingfool> does anyone know where i should start for wireless troubleshooting
[10:34] <SS2> theflyingfool: at you chipset, what type is it?
[10:34] <lordhelmet> theflyingfool: what's wrong?
[10:35] <theflyingfool> atheros chipset
[10:35] <SS2> theflyingfool: fine :)
[10:35] <theflyingfool> and i can only get on irc when it feels like it
[10:35] <SS2> just install the restricted modules
[10:35] <theflyingfool> and i can download my email with evolution on occasion
[10:35] <fnord_> theflyingfool, hammers work good for wifi diagnostics
[10:35] <theflyingfool> i have the resticeted mudoals
[10:36] <lordhelmet> what he said. i'm pretty sure the atheros stuff is in the restricted modules package
[10:36] <SS2> theflyingfool: have you tried the network-manager?
[10:36] <lordhelmet> or knetworkmanager if you use kde
[10:36] <theflyingfool> installing network-manager right now
[10:38] <SS2> theflyingfool: will then need do comment all entries of /etc/network/interfaces instead of auto lo, iface lo inet loopback
[10:38] <fnord_> theflyingfool, go to system=>admin=>networking
[10:39] <theflyingfool> everything except irc and evolution work flawlessly
[10:39] <Pie-rate> I intend to use my GPU as a spaceheater, what should I use to put load on it?
[10:39] <SS2> play a heavy 3d game ;)
[10:39] <Pie-rate> meh, i want folding@home to be able to run at the same time
[10:40] <fnord_> take some ram out and try running frostwire,dont forget to put your max dowloads up to 200 and download tons of dvds
[10:40] <Pie-rate> actually probably just leaving beryl idling should just about do it, eh?
[10:40] <fnord_> 3d animation rendering
[10:41] <fnord_> then throw some smores on a coat hanger and hover them over your box
[10:41] <fnord_> !offtopic | fnord_
[10:41] <ubotu> fnord_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:42] <theflyingfool> how do i start the network manager
[10:42] <fnord_> are you in a terminal?
[10:42] <kalaxmar> I'm on an AMD64 and I'm trying to upgrade to a 6.10 from a 6.06. On using "sudo update-manager -c" I keep getting this error continuously  "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Bzip2 subprocess returned an error code (2)". Then the update-manager aborts and I can't upgrade. Any workaround or solution to this issue?
[10:42] <inverno> Is anyone pretty handy with troubleshooting failed installs?
[10:42] <theflyingfool> i can be in terminal
[10:42] <Pie-rate> how long until the next release of ubuntu?
[10:43] <fnord_> march?
[10:43] <fnord_> !fiesty\
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fiesty\ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <fnord_> !fiesty
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fiesty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <Pie-rate> !ask|inverno
[10:43] <ubotu> inverno: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:43] <fnord_> !feisty
[10:43] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[10:43] <inverno> Okay then. I've been trying to install Ubuntu for a while now, downloading and burning the cd several times. Whenever I go to start/install the os it loads a orangish screen and gives me a cursor. After a few seconds the cursor stops moving. If I do the video safe option a box that says 'ubuntu' in the upper right comes up, and then it locks.
[10:43] <fnord_> !feisty | Pie-rate,
[10:44] <ubotu> Pie-rate,: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[10:44] <fnord_> !gnome
[10:44] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[10:44] <firepol> hi, how is it possible to change print options from openoffice (e.g. print only in grey scale, or decrease/increase print quality)? I'm using a good HP 1600 Series printer
[10:44] <fnord_> whens the next version of gnome?
[10:44] <Slart> inverno: try downloading the alternate install disc.. it's text based and works better
[10:44] <theflyingfool> does network-manager require a restart?
[10:44] <Slart> inverno: it's on the main site somewhere.. can't remember exactly
[10:44] <inverno> Thanks Slart
[10:44] <fnord_> theflyingfool, shouldent
[10:44] <kalaxmar> I'm on an AMD64 and I'm trying to upgrade to a 6.10 from a 6.06. On using "sudo update-manager -c" I keep getting this error continuously  "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Bzip2 subprocess returned an error code (2)". Then the update-manager aborts and I can't upgrade. Any workaround or solution to this issue?
[10:45] <fnord_> theflyingfool, have you tryed opening it?
[10:45] <theflyingfool> fnord_: then how do i bring it up/use it or is it automatic
[10:45] <fnord_> theflyingfool, go to a terminal
[10:45] <theflyingfool> and the command is?
[10:45] <fnord_> type net then hit tab
[10:45] <theflyingfool> nicholas@TheBeast:~$ net
[10:45] <theflyingfool> net            netcat         netstat
[10:45] <theflyingfool> netbug         netkit-ftp     network-admin
[10:46] <fnord_> a list of commands will pop up and you should be able to tell which one it is
[10:46] <fnord_> hmm
[10:46] <Gerald> I've a really noob question, but I just cant find it on the internet: how do I simple install a application such as Firefox <IP_ADDRESS> or jEdit 4.2??
[10:46] <kalaxmar> I thought the upgrades were done automatically
[10:46] <fnord_> im not sure
[10:46] <kalaxmar> but it seems that they are quite buggy
[10:46] <fnord_> what is it you want it to do?
[10:46] <harrisony1> Gerald, try in terminal sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:46] <harrisony1> or sudo apt-get install jedit
[10:47] <Slart> Gerald: or run synaptic package manager it's in System, Administration
[10:47] <fnord_> theflyingfool, go to system admin then networking
[10:47] <Pie-rate> Garald: or if you prefer GUIs use add/remove under applications or synaptic under system->administration
[10:47] <theflyingfool> fnord_: it looks just like it always has
[10:47] <fnord_> you should be able to configure your card from there
[10:47] <Slart> Gerald: or you can use the "Add remove programs" thingy in Applications menu
[10:47] <fnord_> whos network you going thru?
[10:47] <fnord_> is it far away?
[10:47] <Gerald> yes, but in the synaptic thing i cant find the programs I've downloaded (there are on by desk)
[10:48] <theflyingfool> i am using my wireless network now, and it always refuses to download my email
[10:48] <fnord_> i had a problem like that too,
[10:48] <theflyingfool> and about 90 % of the time it refuses to connect to irc
[10:48] <Zante> ;d
[10:48] <Slart> Gerald: System menu, administration, synaptic package manager
[10:48] <harrisony1> Gerald, what do you mean you cant find them
[10:48] <fnord_> brb
[10:48] <Zante> finally got around to connecting to this channel
[10:48] <Zante> his!
[10:49] <Jazon> problems with swap after moving to edgy.  it is saying invalid swap signature - know how i can fix this?
[10:49] <Pie-rate> jedit isn't in the repo, firefox should already be there
[10:49] <fnord_> theflyingfool, if you dont have a set router you go thru change your eesid to "any"
[10:49] <harrisony1> !jedit
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jedit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <fnord_> itll autonaticly select the best open connection
[10:49] <Gerald> harrisonly, well, i've downloaded jedit42install.jar for example, thats on my desk now, but in Synaptic I cant find the program ' jedit'
[10:50] <fnord_> anyone know where to get animated startup screens?
[10:50] <theflyingfool> fnord_: i am on my home router wouldnt doing that be a security risk?
[10:50] <cafuego_> do you really start your machine that often?
[10:50] <fnord_> oh
[10:50] <rawrbbq> hum, what would be a bad test result in memtest86?
[10:50] <Pie-rate> Gerald: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[10:50] <_root____> where are the gtk theme preferences stored? my username is sorta dead now due to a theme screwing everything up
[10:50] <harrisony1> Gerald, synaptic only works with programs downloaded via the repositories
[10:51] <cafuego_> rawrbbq: when it finds bad ram. ANY bad ram.
[10:51] <rawrbbq> hum
[10:51] <Tomcat_> Jazon: Did you format your swap when installing?
[10:51] <fnord_> theflyingfool, never mind
[10:51] <Pie-rate> Gerald: then java -jar Desktop/jedit42install.jar
[10:51] <Jazon> it was fine, until moving to edgy
[10:51] <rawrbbq> cafuego_: so, 1.2million errors is that bad?
[10:51] <Tomcat_> Jazon: Basically, vol_id -u /dev/<yourswap>, then put the UUID into /etc/fstab
[10:51] <fnord_> hmm i dont know how close are you to the router?it cuild be dropped packets
[10:51] <cafuego_> rawrbbq: Yes, time to pull the stick of ram, get the durst off, reseat it and retest.
[10:51] <fnord_> type iwconfig into a consol
[10:52] <Jazon> Tomcat_: /dev/hda3: error open volume
[10:52] <rawrbbq> cafuego: hum.. but it is a laptop, and I am not keen at messing with it
[10:52] <theflyingfool> i am at about 80% signal the router is right outside my door
[10:52] <fnord_> whats the signal level
[10:52] <fnord_> brb
[10:52] <Pie-rate> cafuego_: what's durst?
[10:52] <eviltwin> hi
[10:52] <Gerald> Pie-rate: i get: 'noclassdefinederror'
[10:52] <cafuego_> Pie-rate: It's like dust, but with a typo.
[10:52] <Tomcat_> Jazon: sudo vol_id :)
[10:53] <eviltwin> is there a way to list all the packages that you have installed?
[10:53] <Jazon> urfff sorry
[10:53] <eviltwin> like, to a file
[10:53] <rawrbbq> cafuego_: it has been running for 10 hours :X
[10:53] <cafuego_> rawrbbq: the ram should be under a lid on the bottom, clearly marked and easily accessible.
[10:53] <fnord_> theflyingfool, type iwevent and wait a while
[10:53] <Pie-rate> rawrbbq: you either have bad ram or improperly seated ram, your laptop will need opening one way or the other
[10:53] <fnord_> see what pops up probly something about dropped packets
[10:53] <simplechat> i'm trying to get ubuntu to install on my system, it can't find the dvdrom drive (which is odd because it loads off it....)
[10:53] <rawrbbq> Pie-rate: yes, but if I open it I lose my warranty
[10:53] <rawrbbq> eh
[10:53] <simplechat> its a sony AW-G170A, are there any places where i could find drivers?
[10:53] <cafuego_> rawrbbq: well
[10:53] <Jazon> Tomcat_: yup.  thats what is in my fstab :-(
[10:53] <Pie-rate> rawrbbq: then have it fixed under warranty
[10:53] <kalaxmar> I'm on an AMD64 and I'm trying to upgrade to a 6.10 from a 6.06. On using "sudo update-manager -c" I keep getting this error continuously  "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Bzip2 subprocess returned an error code (2)". Then the update-manager aborts and I can't upgrade. Any workaround or solution to this issue?
[10:53] <cafuego_> rawrbbq: back to the shop it is, then
[10:53] <theflyingfool>   Link Quality=38/94  Signal level=-57 dBm  Noise level=-95 dBm
[10:53] <theflyingfool>
[10:54] <Pie-rate> rawrbbq it isn't your fault they gave you bad ram
[10:54] <Tomcat_> Jazon: Output of "swapon -s"?
[10:54] <rawrbbq> cafuego_: no, I just wanted it confirmed that the ram was bad :) anyhow thx for the help
[10:54] <simplechat> ??
[10:54] <cheapshades> eviltwin: dpkg -l > file.out ?
[10:54] <Jazon> nothing
[10:54] <cafuego_> rawrbbq: Yeah, ANY log of an error is bad.
[10:54] <Jazon> Tomcat_: there is no output.  even as sudo ;)
[10:55] <fnord_> theflyingfool, ive got 81/100 for link quality hmm
[10:55] <Tomcat_> Jazon: Try to "sudo mount /dev/<yourswap>"... any luck with swapon after that?
[10:55] <Pensa`MIA> what's the command for tweaking nvidia settings?
[10:55] <fnord_> not quite sure what that means
[10:55] <syracus> hi there, i have a problem to get my wlan ath0 interface up on system boot. card works after 'sudo ifdown ath0; sudo ifup ath0'....any ideas ?
[10:55] <eviltwin> cheapshades, ty
[10:55] <fnord_> has anything poped up from iwevent?
[10:55] <Jazon> Tomcat_: mountpoint does not exist
[10:56] <theflyingfool> fnord_: nope
[10:56] <theflyingfool> not a thing
[10:56] <Pie-rate> my laptop is a bitch about connecting with low signal strength. works fine on windows but the linux drivers are touchier about it
[10:56] <theflyingfool> fnord_: are you using the restricted mods or ndiswrapper
[10:56] <Gerald> do I have to 'un-zip' a tar.gz file? how?
[10:56] <Tomcat_> Jazon: Sounds like an error in your fstab... could you paste *only* the line containing your swap here?
[10:56] <Jazon> Tomcat_: fdisk -l shows this: /dev/hda3            3967        4425     3686917+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[10:56] <Tomcat_> Gerald: tar xzvf <file.tar.gz>
[10:56] <fnord_> for mine?
[10:57] <theflyingfool> yeah
[10:57] <fnord_> whatever ubuntu installed
[10:57] <Jazon> Tomcat_: fstab line is this:  UUID=55073e08-64a3-438b-b0f1-4cfeeea539e8 none swap sw 0 0
[10:57] <Nighteye> ?
[10:57] <theflyingfool> jazon: isnt the uuid unique to each drive?
[10:57] <fnord_> ove got one of the few wifi card that works plug and play with lots of distros
[10:57] <Jazon> Tomcat_: sudo vol_id -u /dev/hda3 ------> 55073e08-64a3-438b-b0f1-4cfeeea539e8
[10:58] <Tomcat_> Jazon: Mh... I don't see any error. :\
[10:58] <Jazon> me neither.   i am stumped.  weird isnt it
[10:58] <Tomcat_> Jazon: Maybe you should try to sudo mkswap /dev/hda3, then try again.
[10:58] <theflyingfool> fnord_: i got some random activity finaly
[10:59] <Gerald> thanks, Tomcat_
[11:00] <Jazon> Tomcat_: :D:D:D   cool.
[11:00] <Jazon> Tomcat_: now i wonder why the heck it needed that?
[11:00] <Tomcat_> Jazon: Do you use hibernate?
[11:00] <Jazon> Tomcat_: suspend.  all the time
[11:01] <Jazon> Tomcat_: laptop.  acpi screws it up?
[11:01] <Tomcat_> Jazon: Nah, hibernate changes the swap space signature... but not suspend.
[11:01] <Jazon> Tomcat_: ok.  i bet i used it once then....
[11:01] <theflyingfool> does anyone use D-Link System Inc D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G510
[11:02] <Jazon> so now i know.  thanks a lot Tomcat_!!
[11:02] <wims> are there a proper graphical bitorrent client for gnome ?
[11:03] <Gerald> When I have the folder 'firefox' on my desktop and I type ' sudo apt-get install firefox'  the terminal says ' already newest version'  but thats not true! Can someone give me help how to install the new firefox then?
[11:04] <harrisony1> Gerald, just wait it isnt in the newst reps. unless you want to manually update just give it a few days
[11:06] <Gerald> harrisonyl, I've waited for a long time, but firefox dont update himself automatically, even if I say 'check for updates'.. I've still got version 1.0.7....
[11:06] <theflyingfool> how do i get my email to download with evolution on a consistant basis, it works a little less than half the time, it usually just throws me a time out error every time i try and download
[11:07] <harrisony1> Gerald, dapper or edgy
[11:07] <Gerald> ??
[11:07] <phatlip> how can i upgrade firefox 1.5 to firefox 2 on dapper 6.06?
[11:07] <firepol> hi, i enabled printer sharing on a ubuntu "server" and "detect lan printers" on the client. what to do next? how can i see and use the shared printer?
[11:07] <Tomcat_> Gerald: What Ubuntu version?
[11:07] <Tomcat_> Gerald: "when did you install?"
[11:07] <Gerald> Tomcat_ about a year ago...
[11:07] <harrisony1> !firefox
[11:07] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:07] <Messer> Hi. I'm lame :) I have just broken fonts in firefox... on xubuntu i have clicked (in settings): Use subpixel hinting (i have lcd screen). Since this time font in FF are huge.
[11:08] <Messer> Any ideas how to fix it? :/
[11:08] <Tomcat_> Gerald: You need to upgrade to a newer Ubuntu version then to get a new Firefox.
[11:08] <harrisony1> phatlip, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVer & Gerald
[11:08] <harrisony1> oh sorry https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:08] <Gerald> Tomcat_: where can i see the current version?
[11:09] <Tomcat_> Messer: I've seen that... move ~/.mozilla to ~/mozillabackup or something, then start FF and write down the font settings... then restore your .mozilla and set those.
[11:09] <Siv0x> Hello, I just installed xchat-gnome, how come it isnt appearing on the start>>internet list?
[11:09] <Tomcat_> Gerald: lsb_release -a on the console
[11:09] <Messer> Tomcat_: "write down the font settings" - what exacly do you mean?
[11:09] <harrisony1> Gerald, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion will get you firefox 2.0.1
[11:09] <Tomcat_> Gerald: Or "System" => "About Ubuntu"
[11:10] <Tomcat_> Messer: Write down what font settings Firefox uses by default, so you can restore them in your profile.
[11:10] <Jazon> i'm back to work - thanks again folks!
[11:10] <Tomcat_> Siv0x: Maybe re-login... it should appear.
[11:10] <theflyingfool> under network tools shouldnt all of my devices be reconized
[11:10] <Gerald> Tomcat_: i've got 5.10 breezy, thats old?
[11:10] <Messer> Tomcat_: umm... but where can i find a place in FF where can i restore those default fonts?
[11:10] <theflyingfool> i have an unknown interface, and its on the device i am currently using to connect to the web
[11:11] <Tomcat_> Gerald: Yes. Current is 6.10 edgy. (Between was 6.06 dapper)
[11:11] <Siv0x> ok, and is kde 3.5.5 the newest version Tomcat_?
[11:11] <Messer> Gerald: quite old...
[11:11] <Tomcat_> Siv0x: Oi, KDE? Maybe it won't appear in the KDE menu... no idea.
[11:11] <Gerald> okay, does Ubuntu update himself automatically? how?
[11:11] <Siv0x> Tomcat_: no i just want to know what the newest version of that is.
[11:12] <Tomcat_> Siv0x: 3.4.3 seems to be latest in edgy.
[11:12] <Tomcat_> Gerald: System => Admin => Update Manager... it should tell you how to upgrade (I think)
[11:12] <phatlip> er, why isn't Fx 2.0 in the ubuntu repos?
[11:13] <_Adramelech_> siv0x: got sound?
[11:13] <Siv0x> Adramelech: yep :D
[11:13] <_Adramelech_> :D
[11:13] <Tomcat_> phatlip: Because new versions of apps only get synced in new releases.
[11:13] <Tomcat_> phatlip: Eh, wait... that was bollocks. It should be in there.
[11:13] <phatlip> Tomcat_: damn shame edgy is so broken then.
[11:13] <Messer> Tomcat_: anyway - without ~/.mozilla dir Firefox starts with default settings, but fonts are still huge :/
[11:14] <Siv0x> Adramelech: can you pm me pls? if i pm you, you wont receive it because i am on gaim.
[11:14] <Tomcat_> Messer: Then it must be your system fonts... try Prefs => Fonts... are all the fonts at size 10?
[11:14] <firepol> hi there, anybody knows how to SHARE a PRINTER between 2 ubuntu boxes? this guide doesnt give me results: http://occy.net/printing
[11:14] <_Adramelech_> Siv0x: done
[11:15] <Yoshimitsu> anyone had success with wireless on PPC
[11:15] <Messer> Tomcat_: Sans 11 (in XFCE -> User Interface Preferences). It's the oncly place where i can set fonts for xfce perhaps.
[11:15] <Siv0x> Adramelech: your not getting my reply?
[11:16] <_Adramelech_> Siv0x: nope
[11:16] <_Adramelech_> Siv0x: i guess #Siv0x again :P
[11:16] <Siv0x> Adramelech: k
[11:16] <Tomcat_> Messer: No idea then, sorry... should be alright.  How can I fix that?
[11:23] <syracus> *re*
[11:24] <Yoshimitsu> actually i found the firmware online in a nicely rolled up .deb all
[11:24] <tau_> hi - I was wondering if anyone knows what the difference is between /etc/crontab and the root's crontab accessed by "crontab -l" ?
[11:24] <Yoshimitsu> unfortunatley its not working when i try dpkg
[11:24] <stefg> Did anyone try looking glass https://lg3d.dev.java.net/lg3d-getting-started.html#Synaptic_Install here? Is it worth the effort to testdrive it? will it remove again without consequences?
[11:24] <_Adramelech_> xst_: do you have emacs with gtk support?
[11:25] <xst_> _Adramelech_: Don't know. How do I find out of that
[11:25] <xst_> ?
[11:25] <syracus> my ath0 doesn't get up on boot time but a 'sudo ifdown ath0; sudo ifup ath0' works like a charm. does anyone have a hint what i did wrong or where i can see any error (except /var/log/messages, since none are shown there)
[11:25] <petula> can you help me my UBUNTU is down the boot proces is wrong: petula> weisst jemand was damit:
  setting up LVM Volume Groups...
  udevd-event(3214): wait_for_sysfs: waiting for /sys/devices/platform/i82365.0/bus failed
  ...done local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) ats binfmt-supportplay manager
[11:25] <_Adramelech_> xst_: I really dont know the answer but was not able to get emacs, only emacs with gtk support worked for me
[11:26] <_Adramelech_> xst_: look in synaptic what version do you have
[11:28] <tau_> Anyone know anything about crontab?
[11:29] <Messer> Ok, see you later.
[11:29] <yccheok> hello all, anyone here familiar with launchpad?
[11:30] <soon> I want a single BASH command run at startup ... where do I put it?
[11:30] <yccheok> cause i was confused with the projects hosted in launchpad. for example, gnomebaker has their own source code tree in sourceforge, why there is a need to host another source tree in launchpad?
[11:30] <petula> join #danix
[11:31] <soon> (iwpriv ath0 mode 2 ... must be as root)
[11:32] <x-r00t-x> how do i copy file on terminal??
[11:32] <Tomcat_> x-r00t-x: cp
[11:32] <soon> try cp
[11:32] <soon> (or mv to move)
[11:32] <tau_> use cp -p if you want to keep the timestamp of the original file
[11:32] <soon> cp -a copies like archive (including permissions etc)
[11:32] <artbird309> How would I set up a LDAP server
[11:33] <soon> anyone: where do I put a single bash command to get it run at boot ?
[11:33] <Slart> soon: system, preferences, sessions might work
[11:33] <soon> I try - thx
[11:33] <yccheok> hello all, anyone here familiar with launchpad?
[11:33] <yccheok> cause i was confused with the projects hosted in launchpad. for example, gnomebaker has their own source code tree in sourceforge, why there is a need to host another source tree in launchpad?
[11:33] <_Adramelech_> soon: at system startup?
[11:33] <tau_> soon: you could try putting it in /etc/rc.local
[11:33] <_Adramelech_> soon: or at terminal startup?
[11:33] <Tomcat_> yccheok: Don't repeat please.
[11:34] <tau_> soon: I'm not completely familiar with the accepted best place to put things though :/
[11:34] <fnord_> evolution is a mail program right?
[11:34] <fnord_> !evolution
[11:34] <ubotu> evolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 5022 kB, installed size 38204 kB
[11:34] <soon> I think maybe Slarts idea works ... system/preferences/session
[11:35] <soon> mail, calendar, addressbook etc
[11:36] <slackmen> hi
[11:36] <harrisony1> hi
[11:36] <fnord_> so is evolution a mail program?
[11:37] <Ha1> Yep
[11:37] <slackmen> guys I wana start using linux
[11:37] <beginn3r> Is  there anyway I can continue my installation after my installation was stopped half-way
[11:37] <beginn3r> due to power outage
[11:37] <slackmen> but I am not sure to start with which one?
[11:37] <Tomcat_> evolution is a mail program + calendar + todo list + memos... :)
[11:37] <slackmen> is ubuntu easy to use?
[11:37] <Tomcat_> slackmen: Absolutely... Ubuntu usually works out of the box, and you don't need the console often.
[11:37] <beginn3r> I mean I tried to  install the server package
[11:38] <beginn3r> and it had 85% completed
[11:38] <fnord_> Tomcat_, you dont need the console often!gasp i loves me console!
[11:38] <yccheok> Tomcat_, soli, my internet is lagging here. i didn't saw my msg appear. hence, i type twice :P
[11:38] <beginn3r> before the power turned off
[11:38] <artbird309> beginn3r: no your go to have to restart
[11:38] <Tomcat_> fnord_: Well you can still use it as often as you want... but in my first years of Ubuntu I never had it open... :D
[11:39] <beginn3r> I use the  rescue option
[11:39] <beginn3r> many  things has already in place
[11:39] <beginn3r> just  that I can't  boot  into it
[11:39] <beginn3r> maybe because grub si not yet configured
[11:39] <artbird309> How would I set up a LDAP server
[11:39] <unfun> How do I put a file inside the topmost directory of Wine's source code (that which includes the LICENSE file) ?
[11:40] <slackmen> ok thanks guys
[11:41] <fnord_> Tomcat_, so is it ok to trash all the stuff in system=>session aboute evolution if i dont use  it?
[11:42] <Tomcat_> fnord_: Sure. But why would you?
[11:42] <fnord_> just to cut down on running processes
[11:42] <Tomcat_> fnord_: alarm-notify needs 1.7M... not that much :o
[11:42] <Tomcat_> fnord_: But I see your point... evo is huge.
[11:43] <beginn3r> so,is there anyway to avoid restarting the installation ?
[11:43] <harrisony1> beginn3r, you installing a package,upgrade or new install
[11:44] <artbird309> beginn3r: I don't think so
[11:44] <beginn3r> harrisony1, new install
[11:44] <harrisony1> hmmm hate to say i dont think my friend
[11:44] <livingdaylight> does anyone happen to know with a laptop which has intel gma 950 integrated graphics will run beryl/compiz (the cube basically)
[11:44] <beginn3r> but I believe many important packages have been installed
[11:44] <Tomcat_> livingdaylight: It will.
[11:45] <livingdaylight> Tomcat_, woa, you know this?
[11:45] <Tomcat_> livingdaylight: Quite slow if you have *many* windows open, but it will work perfectly.
[11:45] <Tomcat_> livingdaylight: Sure, I use it on Intel 855... Intel 950 is only a successor.
[11:45] <artbird309> beginn3r: I would start over to be on the save side
[11:46] <livingdaylight> Tomcat_, i iz concerned because the man said the lappy doesn't have a dedicated 3-d graphics card. Its integrated graphics. And my desktop pc which has integrated graphics i know doesn't run the cube or and 3-d games or stuff
[11:46] <jimcooncat> how do I view a manpage from the command line in a gui like yelp?
[11:46] <yccheok> Tomcat_, soli, my internet is lagging here. i didn't saw my msg appear. hence, i type twice :P
[11:46] <NHL> hi, i've installed EDGY, how do i get MP3/DIVX support?
[11:47] <J-_> !splash
[11:47] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image using !gconf-editor
[11:47] <livingdaylight> Tomcat_, looking at lenovo R60e with core duo processor, so a bit of speed there. Aguess memory is the thing
[11:47] <stefg> !restricted
[11:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:47] <harrisony1> !restricted formats
[11:47] <killer__> witam
[11:47] <harrisony1> !divx
[11:47] <J-_> !gnome-splashscreen-manager
[11:47] <ubotu> gnome-splashscreen-manager: manage your GNOME splash screen images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-3 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 152 kB
[11:47] <killer__> #ubuntu.pl
[11:47] <Tomcat_> livingdaylight: Yeah, onboard Intel is slow... but it will still work. Think 10 to 20 fps, where NVidia/ATI get about 60+.
[11:47] <harrisony1> !divx
[11:47] <killer__> #ubuntu.pl
[11:48] <Tomcat_> livingdaylight: I'm amazed myself that it works so well.
[11:48] <stefg> killer: here's teh line to paste: /j #ubuntu-pl
[11:48] <Almindor> hey guys
[11:48] <harrisony1> hey
[11:48] <Almindor> I just bought a new genius tablet (G 4500)
[11:48] <Tomcat_> livingdaylight: It also depends much on what effect plugins you run... I'm talking about the default things here.
[11:48] <Almindor> it works with the tablet mouse
[11:48] <harrisony1> ubuntu-pl? Philippines
[11:48] <Almindor> but  I can't get the pen to work in gimp or anywhere
[11:48] <Tomcat_> livingdaylight: If you turn on much of the transparency stuff it's barely usable.
[11:48] <Almindor> it registers buttons on it
[11:49] <Almindor> but not movement or pressure
[11:49] <Almindor> anything I need to set?
[11:49] <livingdaylight> Tomcat_, the world of laptops is a minefield
[11:50] <artbird309> How would I set up a LDAP server in ubuntu
[11:50] <Prohibited> hey what do I have to do so when i type "gcc" it will launch /var/lib/gcc ...
[11:50] <Tomcat_> artbird309: sudo apt-get install slapd, then configure that.
[11:50] <Tomcat_> Prohibited: Install build-essential
[11:50] <livingdaylight> Tomcat_, but Feisty will run on it
[11:51] <artbird309> Tomcat_: how do I configure it
[11:51] <Tomcat_> livingdaylight: Yeah, and feisty is currently quite low in effects... runs much better than beryl on edgy.
[11:51] <livingdaylight> Tomcat_, is there a btter laptop the Lenovo R60e?
[11:51] <Tomcat_> artbird309: Edit /etc/slapd/slapd.conf I guess. :o
[11:52] <Tomcat_> livingdaylight: No idea... I'm not up to speed with laptops. But I'd go with Lenovo as well... good Linux support generally.
[11:52] <artbird309> Tomcat_ Do you have a good page that tells you how to configure it
[11:54] <Tomcat_> artbird309: I used this one: http://www.educ.umu.se/~bjorn/linux/howto/LDAP-HOWTO.html
[11:54] <karakara> more often than not you can find set up info at a project's homepage
[11:54] <Tomcat_> artbird309: But there are others... it took me years to figure everything out.
[11:54] <netdownload> hi all
[11:54] <artbird309> Tomcat_: That looks good thanks
[11:55] <netdownload> do you know a way to know total traffic for a specific connection?
[11:55] <Tomcat_> netdownload: ifconfig tells.
[11:55] <Tomcat_> netdownload: RX/TX bytes
[11:55] <netdownload> thanks a lot
[11:56] <pdedecker> Is it possible to run iTunes under Linux using Wine?
[11:56] <Tomcat_> pdedecker: Check winehq :)
[11:57] <artbird309> pdedecker: #winehq
[11:57] <Tomcat_> pdedecker: Doesn't, as it seems.
[12:00] <yoshimitsu> Wireless PPC question again, i now have network manager installed
[12:01] <yoshimitsu> however i cant seem to find it or call it from a terminal
[12:01] <yoshimitsu> any idea on syntax?
[12:01] <Tomcat_> yoshimitsu: Did you log out & log in again?
[12:01] <yoshimitsu> no i rebooted
[12:01] <vincent____> i have a icecast2 server on verheijen.overflow-error.nl:8123/live.mp3 i was wondering if it's accesible from the internet (it should be) someone wanna try it?
[12:01] <unfun> How do I acces the topmost directory of Wine's source code (that which includes the LICENSE file), ?
[12:03] <stefg> vincent____: ACK, works for me
[12:03] <vincent____> yes?
[12:03] <vincent____> don't see you in the clients list
[12:03] <stefg> yes! but cant stand the music :-)
[12:04] <vincent____> me not too
[12:04] <stefg> just tried 10 seconds
[12:04] <vincent____> it's my brothers mp3 player
[12:04] <vincent____> i use dynebolic for streaming so i needed a usb key with music
[12:04] <sleiner> alguien habla espaol
[12:04] <stefg> So i'm streaming now again
[12:05] <stefg> !es
[12:05] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:05] <vincent____> yes, i see you
[12:05] <vincent____> yee, it works
[12:05] <stefg> pheeewww... ok, that's enough for a lazy friday morning
[12:05] <vincent____> yesterday it wouldn't work (i forgot to open the udp ports)
[12:06] <vincent____> thanks for testing (and listening to that horrible music :p)
[12:06] <stefg> np :-)
[12:08] <_Adramelech_> !ru
[12:08] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[12:11] <maddash> I've got a big problem. I did a server install of Dapper with grub as bootloader, and then proceeded to upgrade the kernel via aptitude. now I can't find my vmlinuz or initrd.img files. wtf?
[12:12] <maddash> anyone have a clue? this is quite serious.
[12:12] <maddash> !upgrade
[12:12] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:13] <zagor> Ciao
[12:13] <zagor> !list
[12:13] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:14] <yoshimitsu> for some reason im unable to load network manager
[12:14] <yoshimitsu> its not in the Applications list and cant call it from terminal
[12:15] <yoshimitsu> i guess PPC wireless was a bad idea LOL
[12:15] <cens0red> hi. My sound has gone. I don't know why. It keeps cutting out, after I play, or rip, DVDs with my new DVD drive.
[12:16] <stefg> cens0red: Does restarting esd change something?
[12:17] <cens0red> stefg how do i restart it? killall -XUP ?