[06:51] <joe_> SuseUX, i tried taht sudo tar -x*** and it give me this is not a bzip file
[06:51] <n0odl3> does anyone know what this error means?
[06:51] <calc> rendi: you may have to setup samba depending on how your windows network has been configured
[06:51] <crimsun> duncanm: look on the wiki/forum
[06:51] <n0odl3> wrong fs type
[06:51] <nalioth> joe_: tar xvjf file.bz2
[06:51] <n0odl3> bad option
[06:52] <n0odl3> bad superblock on /dev/hdd
[06:52] <nalioth> joe_: read the cli info ubotu sent you
[06:52] <n0odl3> missing codepage or other error
[06:52] <n0odl3> ?
[06:52] <Strike4ce> anyone help me?
[06:52] <n0odl3> this happens everytime i try to open a certain cd a friend burned for me
[06:53] <dougsko> Strike4ce: what exactly is the situation?
[06:53] <n0odl3> at the end it says "could not execute pmount?
[06:53] <SuseUX> Strike4ce, I just told you how
[06:53] <max_> went offline for a bit, but for the guy wanting xfce: apt-get install xfce4-desktop
[06:53] <eXcentra> How do I make it so that when I put headphones into the headphone jack, the sound only comes out in the headphones?
[06:53] <dmlinux> How do i get to the Synaptics touchpad configuration tool?
[06:53] <joe_> /usr/local/lib/codecs/w32codecs_1%3a20050216-0.0_i386.deb
[06:53] <joe_> this is what i'm trying to untar
[06:53] <n0odl3> does this mean the cd is bad?
[06:54] <Strike4ce> when i boot to windows xp it trys to check the drive and scan it I cancel it.  If I allowed it to go on it would delete the partition of ubuntu right?
[06:54] <SuseUX> Strike4ce, no
[06:54] <nalioth> joe_: you dont untar that. you "sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb
[06:54] <wastrel> Does ubuntu automatically detect and try to configure dual monitor setups?
[06:54] <kikinovak> Hi. I
[06:54] <joe_> nalioth, yea i did that but it desn't seem to work
[06:54] <dougsko> Strike4ce: i dont think so, when u boot up, dont u get a grub loader?
[06:54] <lui> Strike4ce, no at all man!
[06:54] <SuseUX> Strike4ce, it just does a filesystem check
[06:55] <joe_> nalioth, when i browse to taht directory to look for any files there are none there
[06:55] <DansFloyd> how do i install Skype... i get errors saing i need libqt3c102-mt, but when i install it it says it was replaced with something else... so now its not letting me install skype
[06:55] <kikinovak> (sorry) Hi,I'm writing a short piece on Ubuntu. Anyone knows when the _first_ Ubuntu release was published? Was that 4.04?
[06:55] <SuseUX> but deleting WIndows is not all bad :-)
[06:55] <Strike4ce> ok last time id deleted it but it wasnt fully installed I backed out
[06:55] <maximaus> quickie question, not really Ubuntu: I can't log into my new wireless router (wired atm), the page came up once, then hung, does the same thing in XP...bad router?
[06:55] <joe_> strike ace are you trying to delet your ubuntu partition?
[06:55] <nalioth> joe_: when you entered "sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb" did the terminal say anything about an error?
[06:55] <Strike4ce> no
[06:55] <joe_> no
[06:56] <TodFlanders> kikinovak I believe 4.04 the warty warthog was the 1st
[06:56] <maximaus> kikinovak, google is your friend and the first version was called Warty warthog
[06:56] <dougsko> yeah it was warty
[06:56] <propagandhi>  The first public release of Ubuntu was the Ubuntu 4.10 Preview (codenamed "the Warty Warthog", or just "Warty").
[06:56] <Strike4ce> whats wrong with kubuntu?
[06:56] <kevogod> It was actually 4.10.
[06:56] <kevogod> err sorry
[06:56] <kikinovak> TodFlanders: thanks very much
[06:56] <maximaus> Strike4ce, the color bloo :P
[06:56] <kevogod> Strike4ce, Nothing.
[06:56] <kikinovak> maximaus: thanks for the superfluous lesson.
[06:57] <dougsko> came out, oct. 4th
[06:57] <dougsko> no, sorry, oct. '04
[06:57] <lui> Strike4ce, I think nothing, but Ubuntu was designed with gnome in mind
[06:57] <Strike4ce> it reminds you of microsoft right the color lol?
[06:57] <kevogod> Kubuntu is a fork.
[06:58] <kevogod> sort of
[06:58] <joe_> nalioth, when i use taht command it unpacks and then says setting up win32codecs and then get s me back to prompt
[06:58] <crimsun> no it's not.
[06:58] <nalioth> joe_: then you've installed it correctly
[06:58] <propagandhi> maybe ubuntu was designed with gnome in mind, but the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is the window manager and some artwork
[06:58] <dougsko> kikinovak: who r u writing a piece for? (just curious)
[06:58] <crimsun> Kubuntu is a community-based project based on Ubuntu. Its packages are in the Ubuntu repository.
[06:58] <dmlinux> Whenever i do synclient -h it says NO TOURCHPAD FOUND, but when i dmesg i get [4294693.369000]  input: AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint on isa0060/serio1 Can anyone help me or give me a link to fix this
[06:58] <maximaus> tbh, I'm really glad that Kubuntu exist, but it's not for me.
[06:58] <joe_> nalioth, yet i still get no video output
[06:58] <TodFlanders> sorta funny question, I want to try out kde again can I just install kbuntu desktop on top of ubuntu breezy?
[06:58] <kevogod> crimsun, Yes, but it still is considered an entirely different distribution.
[06:58] <maximaus> TodFlanders, yup
[06:58] <calc> hmm 5.10 images aren't cut yet
[06:58] <Strike4ce> how do I uninstall ubuntu?
[06:58] <kevogod> Even though it really isn't.
[06:58] <nalioth> joe_: what video are you trying to play (the filetype)?
[06:58] <lui> propagandhi, that's it
[06:58] <crimsun> kevogod: for people who wish to consider it thus, perhaps.
[06:59] <joe_> nalioth, a .wmv file
[06:59] <dougsko> maximaus: def. the more choices, the better
[06:59] <ZeZu> damn this chan is pretty big
[06:59] <propagandhi> its a matter of personal preference which way you go - kde, gnome or other
[06:59] <Strike4ce> I can just go into windows and delete the partition right?
[06:59] <nalioth> joe_: i'm afraid you are out of luck. some wmvs wont play no matter what you do
[06:59] <orko> do u need to do any symlinking to build a kernel from source (linux-source and linux-headers are installed.. )
[06:59] <lui> Strike4ce, why in the world you want to do that to you r pc?
[06:59] <joe_> well i tried doing a .avi as well
[06:59] <nalioth> Strike4ce: yes
[06:59] <joe_> no luck
[06:59] <dmlinux> Whenever i do synclient -h it says NO TOURCHPAD FOUND, but when i dmesg i get [4294693.369000]  input: AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint on isa0060/serio1 Can anyone help me or give me a link to fix this
[06:59] <joe_> just audio
[07:00] <SuseUX> xine usually plays them better, gstreamer dont
[07:00] <Strike4ce> im going to install kubuntu
[07:00] <maximaus> Strike4ce, windows is in a state of denial and won't even see the partition
[07:00] <crimsun> orko: you need linux-tree-2.6.10 (or -2.6.12 in Breezy) and build-essential.
[07:00] <nalioth> joe_: avis are container files and can contain many things
[07:00] <SuseUX> same with .mov
[07:00] <Strike4ce> yes it sees it but says unkown
[07:00] <ZeZu> i'm have some trouble w/ getting fglrx drivers working in ubuntu, and the www page says to try reinstalling but apt-get isn't finding the package (i've tried typing it quirte a few diff. ways)
[07:00] <maximaus> Strike4ce, you can have both installed, just open up synaaptic and install it
[07:00] <joe_> SuseUX, i get a green screen when i try xine
[07:00] <lui> Strike4ce, you don't need to uninstall kubuntu to do that
[07:00] <Strike4ce> ok how do I install kubuntu now?
[07:01] <crimsun> install kubuntu-desktop
[07:01] <nalioth> Strike4ce: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:01] <TodFlanders> strike4ce, search synaptic for kubuntu-desktop
[07:01] <SuseUX> joe_, thats the thing about microsoft format, it changes every version
[07:01] <ZeZu> how can i check what packages i can download from apt-get ? so i know what the exact filename is ?
[07:01] <dougsko> Strike4ce: put in the cd and reboot should work
[07:01] <TodFlanders> great minds think alike, i may do the kbuntu-desktop tomorrow
[07:01] <joe_> SuseUX, what about divx?
[07:01] <nalioth> ZeZu: use synaptic
[07:01] <lui> Strike4ce, in the terminal write sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:01] <propagandhi> kubuntu with kde 3.5 beta is excellent
[07:01] <TodFlanders> ZeZu try synaptic
[07:01] <dougsko> ZeZu: run synaptic, its a gui front-end to apt
[07:01] <jwd_> hey balioth
[07:01] <ZeZu> synaptic ?
[07:01] <ZeZu> ok
[07:01] <joe_> SuseUX, apt-get install divx?
[07:01] <jwd_> I mean nalioth
[07:01] <wastrel> how do i change my screen resolution?
[07:02] <SuseUX> joe_, divx works fine
[07:02] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ZeZu about synaptic
[07:02] <jwd_> I got everything running :-)
[07:02] <nalioth> joe_: howdy
[07:02] <nalioth> jwd_: cool
[07:02] <jwd_> apache setup as well
[07:02] <Strike4ce> downloading now lol
[07:02] <dmlinux> Anyone know how to edit Synclient properties???
[07:02] <joe_> nalioth,  HI
[07:02] <jwd_> damn proud of myself
[07:02] <jwd_> hehehe
[07:02] <dougsko> wastrel: system->screen resolution
[07:02] <nalioth> jwd_: now there is more to learn
[07:02] <SuseUX> joe_, divx should be in that codec package you installed
[07:02] <jwd_> oh I know
[07:02] <Strike4ce> I still like microsoft
[07:02] <eXcentra> How do I make it so that when I put headphones into the headphone jack, the sound only comes out in the headphones?
[07:02] <jwd_> I used to be in the field before the attacks
[07:02] <lui> Strike4ce, of course man, and you know why? because linux is the best! :)
[07:03] <wastrel> doug system->preferences->screen resolution  tells me that i don't have RandR support
[07:03] <joe_> SuseUX, is it a player persay?
[07:03] <jwd_> its just been so long
[07:03] <dougsko> wastrel:system->preferences->screen resolution
[07:03] <jwd_> you forget so much
[07:03] <Strike4ce> lol that must be  abot
[07:03] <dougsko> yeah sorry...
[07:03] <crimsun> eXcentra: should be automatic.
[07:03] <joe_> divx movie.wmv?
[07:03] <dougsko> im not a bot
[07:03] <jwd_> I was surprised how much of vi I remembered!
[07:03] <nalioth> joe_: divx are usually .avi
[07:03] <lui> Strike4ce, and you can use kubuntu and ubuntu at the same time
[07:03] <eXcentra> crimsun, it comes out in both the headphones and speakers. :|
[07:03] <wastrel> i've edited my XF86Config-4 file but it didn't seem to work
[07:03] <SuseUX> joe_, any linux player can play that format, just ned the codecs
[07:03] <propagandhi> Strike4ce: keep using linux and you will steadily grow hatred for all things M$
[07:03] <dmlinux> Does anyone know how to configure Synclient ? please :P
[07:03] <dougsko> ive been doing emag homework all night and im a little drunk right now
[07:03] <joe_> oh i see
[07:03] <Strike4ce> well what about my vid card?
[07:03] <dougsko> sorry
[07:03] <TodFlanders> wastrel did you edit the right color depth?
[07:04] <dougsko> just trying to help
[07:04] <Strike4ce> i use this laptop to watch dvds
[07:04] <wastrel> TodFlanders:  i edited them all
[07:04] <joe_> i was under a diiferetn impression
[07:04] <TodFlanders> do you have a vertrefresh and horizrefresh setting in their?
[07:04] <Strike4ce> I have a ati radeon 9600 pro turbo
[07:04] <lui> "Strike4ce: I still like microsoft" ---- you were going well until that phrase :D
[07:04] <wastrel> TodFlanders:  in the monitor section yes
[07:04] <ZeZu> if i have a p4 my arch is 686 right ?
[07:04] <Flarex_Ruin> Hello, I'm trying to convert from Windows to Ubuntu, would anyway please assist me? (I have downloaded the .iso)
[07:05] <crimsun> eXcentra: paste amixer output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:05] <wickedpuppy> Flarex_Ruin, you got to first tell us if you wish to dual boot or not ?
[07:05] <dmacdonald111> dougsk: Thanks for your help - I have renamed the files and they it's working. I still have a few errors, but at least I can look for it now!
[07:05] <TodFlanders> wastrel is rour res real bad or just want higher?
[07:05] <propagandhi> Flarex_Ruin: we will all assist you
[07:05] <Flarex_Ruin> Yes, I think I'd like to dual boot to start
[07:05] <bam_> Flarex_Ruin, burn the iso to dvd the reboot with dvd in the drive, follow instructions
[07:05] <wastrel> TodFlanders:  i am trying to get my laptop to output on an external monitor
[07:05] <Flarex_Ruin> If I unexpectatly leave, it's because my windows crashes
[07:05] <wastrel> TodFlanders:  it doesn't want to work.
[07:05] <dougsko> dmacdonald111: good stuff, these guys r calling me a bot!
[07:05] <Strike4ce> I was kidding I like tinkering with this
[07:05] <dougsko> lol
[07:06] <Flarex_Ruin> How do I burn a ISO, I have Alcohol 120%
[07:06] <wastrel> TodFlanders:  so i'm trying to dumb it down to 640x480 to see if i can get things going at all before i tweak
[07:06] <dmacdonald111> haha! That's cos you are answering everyone's questions that is :D
[07:06] <TodFlanders> oh :/ not sure about all that, if the res options are too low you may have to tinker with refresh settings which im nt that great at
[07:06] <propagandhi> Flarex_Ruin: alcohol has an image burning wizard
[07:06] <orko> is it possible to compile only one module in a kernel.. (i only want to build drivers/scsi/aacraid)
[07:06] <Flarex_Ruin> Right, found it
[07:06] <eXcentra> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2984
[07:06] <TodFlanders> have you gotten any output to it yet?
[07:06] <wastrel> TodFlanders:  the res options are too high.  i commented out everything but 640x480 but i'm still at 1400x1500
[07:07] <wickedpuppy> Flarex_Ruin, is it possibile to ask a local linux guru to help you ??
[07:07] <Flarex_Ruin> Can I burn the .rar?
[07:07] <Strike4ce> anyone know how to get my vid card working at its best with ubuntu or kubuntu?
[07:07] <wastrel> TodFlanders:  it works while i'm in the console mode, but once X starts it doesn't
[07:07] <wickedpuppy> Flarex_Ruin, nope ... rar is not image
[07:07] <Flarex_Ruin> I don't know what a local linux guru is
[07:07] <SuseUX> Flarex_Ruin, just burn the iso to cd
[07:07] <wickedpuppy> Flarex_Ruin, I mean you know anyone who live near you that knows linux well ?
[07:07] <Flarex_Ruin> It comes in a .rar format though
[07:07] <me_> hey people. just used gparted to attempt at partitioning my second hard drive. how do i write files to it? its located at /dev/sdc and its an ext3 and the partition is called New Partition #1.. i don't know where to go from here
[07:07] <dougsko> wastrel: are u using the nvidia driver?
[07:07] <Flarex_Ruin> wickedpuppy, negative
[07:08] <propagandhi> Flarex: is the iso in a rar file, or is it a rar icon because u have winrar installed
[07:08] <wastrel> dougsk:  it's ATI
[07:08] <joe_> SuseUX and Nalioth, the win32codecs file is a zip file that has more files in it. i do not know where to extract to. when i open the file it asks me to use the archive manager
[07:08] <duncanm> what do i have to do to get usplash to work?
[07:08] <TodFlanders> wastrel have you seen this howto? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23628&highlight=tv+output
[07:08] <duncanm> i installed the splash manager, and some splash packages, but i don't see any listed as installed
[07:08] <Strike4ce> it pisses me off that i cant use this to access my work site on a emulator.  it wont work without Microsoft Virtual machine.  otherwise I would leave microsoft
[07:08] <crimsun> eXcentra: try toggling Headphone
[07:08] <SuseUX> Flarex_Ruin, if it's a rar then it's not ubuntu
[07:08] <budluva> how do i add a command at boot for my x session? my monitor is old and dark, so i have to manually type this command in a term every time i log in, xgamma -d :0 -gamma 3.0 and would like to automate this, how do i go about it?
[07:08] <Flarex_Ruin> Ill check propagandhi
[07:08] <ubuntu_> anybody know the su password for ubuntu live?
[07:08] <crimsun> ubuntu_: there is none
[07:08] <dmacdonald111> ubuntu_: I think its root
[07:08] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu_, i just su -s and i am in #
[07:08] <nalioth> joe_: are you talking about the file ending in .deb?
[07:08] <propagandhi> Flarex_Ruin: winrar labels .iso files with its archive icon
[07:08] <nalioth> ubuntu_: there is non
[07:09] <Strike4ce> anyone know anything about using Microsoft virtual machine with ubuntu?
[07:09] <joe_> yes
[07:09] <Flarex_Ruin> Should I try to burn the file I downloaded?
[07:09] <SuseUX> Flarex_Ruin, go download the iso file from ubuntu's website
[07:09] <wastrel> ok thx i'm done for the night :]
[07:09] <wastrel> will try again later
[07:09] <joe_> nalioth, and i mv that file to then usr/local/lib/codecs dir
[07:09] <nalioth> joe_: you've installed it. it doesnt need to be opened or anything else
[07:09] <Flarex_Ruin> I did SuseUX
[07:09] <joe_> oh
[07:09] <propagandhi> Flarex_Ruin: use alcohols image burning wizard - browse to the file and burn it
[07:09] <wickedpuppy> Flarex_Ruin, yes ... Flarex_Ruin you seems to be ... totally newbie ... I strongly plead that you seek help or backup everything you got on ya windowz
[07:09] <ubuntu_> thanks
[07:09] <jcarr> how can I add fonts for all my apps to use
[07:10] <jcarr> ?
[07:10] <dougsko> wastrel: hmm...try this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12570
[07:10] <TodFlanders> wastrel good luck i havent tried that ever
[07:10] <ZeZu> i have tried everything to get these fglrx drivers working ;(  can anyone think of any suggestions, fglrx still says mesa
[07:10] <ZeZu> i just replaced w/ the 686 fglrx driver and no help
[07:10] <lui> question: what are the differences between a normal package and a devel package?
[07:10] <eXcentra> crimsun, err, how do I toggle it?
[07:10] <Flarex_Ruin> How can I back up everything?
[07:10] <nalioth> jcarr: put any ttf fonts you like into ~/.fonts
[07:10] <wickedpuppy> Flarex_Ruin, you got to burn every think you think is important
[07:11] <Flarex_Ruin> Wow, that'll be a while
[07:11] <nalioth> lui: the dev pkgs allow other programs to be compiled to use the program
[07:11] <TodFlanders> flarex_rain http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087&highlight=exclude
[07:11] <SuseUX> lui, dev packages has development and libraries files
[07:11] <shreevatsa> ubotu, add
[07:11] <SuseUX> :-)
[07:11] <ubotu> add is, like, To add an item to me, type "ubotu <keyword> is <description description description>", without the carets
[07:11] <ZeZu> else this is going to be one more distro down the drain due to crappy ati drivers
[07:11] <wickedpuppy> thats what I do ... i don't wanna cry later when my install go bad
[07:11] <SuseUX> to many helpers :-)
[07:12] <shreevatsa> ubotu, sources
[07:12] <ubotu> from memory, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[07:12] <dougsko> Flarex_Ruin: leave a dvdRW in yr drive and have a cron job burn whatever u want each night on it
[07:12] <wickedpuppy> ZeZu, ati support is always crappy on all distros
[07:12] <Flarex_Ruin> Is there anyway I can upload these important files, or hide them on my hard drive?
[07:12] <ZeZu> yea so i'm told
[07:12] <ZeZu> but some people do get it working
[07:12] <dmacdonald111> Did someone mention something about a new release of breezy earlier?
[07:12] <Flarex_Ruin> I don't have a DVD drive, only CDRW
[07:12] <ZeZu> i'd like to be one of those poeple
[07:12] <SuseUX> Flarex_Ruin, why dont you try live cd?
[07:12] <propagandhi> dougsko: i dont think that will be very helpful to Flarex_Ruin
[07:12] <wickedpuppy> Flarex_Ruin, if you got external harddrive or any place to put them
[07:12] <lui> nalioth, like.... what kind of programs in first place need the program in second place?
[07:13] <dougsko> propagandhi: just an idea...
[07:13] <ZeZu> i have checked all the proper shit, nothing helps tho
[07:13] <Flarex_Ruin> Negative, wickedpuppy
[07:13] <propagandhi> dougsko: but he knows nothing about linux yet it seems
[07:13] <wickedpuppy> Flarex_Ruin, then i suggest you burn everything you think you will miss ...
[07:13] <joe_> nalioth, even tho the files inside the .deb package are tar.gz files?
[07:13] <nalioth> lui: mplayer is a very useful program to play audio/video. if you write a program to play audio, you can write parts of mplayer into it, so as to make your work not so hard
[07:13] <SuseUX> live cd dont touch your harddrive
[07:13] <dougsko> propagandhi: thats ok, ill answer any questions he has to the best of my knowledge
[07:14] <nalioth> joe_: the deb has instructions to your system's dpkg as to where to install the contents
[07:14] <ZeZu> anyone even have any good idea why fglrx might not work on my system :  i have a asus p4c800 delux board and the card is a saphire radeon 9800 pro
[07:14] <meng> SuseUX: u know how to add suse to ubuntu's grub?
[07:14] <ZeZu> using breezy
[07:14] <TodFlanders> flarex who you hiding them from? a uneducated user? if so just disable the read prsmiison for everyone
[07:14] <joe_> ok
[07:14] <lui> nalioth, oooohhh, okkkkk, thanks :)
[07:14] <joe_> i will work on this tomorrow, thanks for your help :)
[07:14] <kevogod> Um, it is not that difficult.
[07:14] <SuseUX> meng, dont use SuSE, so..
[07:14] <kevogod> In fact, it is quite trivial.
[07:14] <joe_> SuseUX, thanks for your help as well
[07:15] <SuseUX> :-)
[07:15] <ZeZu> i remember there was a log file i read that told me what wasn't starting last time
[07:15] <Flarex_Ruin> My problem is, windows is constantly crashing on me, i have spyware/viruses everywhere, i can't system restore it always crashes, my IE always crashes (has for almost a year), so I'm trying to run away from my problems
[07:15] <ZeZu> anyone know what file that might be? had all the modules start output
[07:15] <meng> SuseUX: was thinking of Mandriva, but you know about the membership costs
[07:15] <propagandhi> Flarex_Ruin: but you still have crucial data that needs to be backed up?
[07:15] <SuseUX> meng, it's free
[07:16] <Flarex_Ruin> and I would burn everything important and wipe my HD, but I don't know how to do that, nor do I think I can re-install windows afterwards...
[07:16] <ZeZu> i guess xchat doesnt have support for being on multiple servers ;|
[07:16] <Strike4ce> ok kubunu is done now what?
[07:16] <meng> SuseUX: i meant Mandriva 2006
[07:16] <nalioth> ZeZu: sure it does
[07:16] <Flarex_Ruin> prop, yes i do
[07:16] <ZeZu> or the cmd cmd format is not the same
[07:16] <ZeZu> damn
[07:16] <ZeZu> just not used to it ;)
[07:16] <Flarex_Ruin> some of my parents stuff on here is extremely crucial
[07:16] <propagandhi> Flarex_Ruin: you dont seem to be in a position to attempt this yet then
[07:17] <nalioth> ZeZu: x-chat > server list
[07:17] <SuseUX> meng, ahh, but the iso's will be soon, I just cannot stand Mandriva
[07:17] <Flarex_Ruin> What are my other options?
[07:17] <ZeZu> ah no server -n,m host or smth ?
[07:17] <Flarex_Ruin> I got a few boring days coming up, our teachers are on strike
[07:17] <SuseUX> Flarex_Ruin, Do you really need WIndows?
[07:17] <propagandhi> Flarex_Ruin: another hard drive, an external hard drive, another computer
[07:17] <Flarex_Ruin> Not if Ubuntu can handle my Windows programs
[07:18] <SuseUX> Flarex_Ruin, Linux has it's own
[07:18] <propagandhi> Flarex_Ruin: dont count on ubuntu running your windows software
[07:18] <dougsko> ok, well, i have class at freakin 8 am tomorrw, so ill see yall tomarrow. take it easy guys, and dont smash yr box yet, it can work beautifly :)
[07:18] <ZeZu> i dont suppose anyone answered my question about what log file i should look at to see what is happening when fglrx fails to load the ati driver while i was parted ?
[07:18] <Flarex_Ruin> My buddy, who got me into this, says it runs EA stuff for him...
[07:18] <tritium> ZeZu, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:18] <ZeZu> i seem to remember it being a /var smth
[07:18] <ZeZu> ah thx
[07:18] <dmacdonald111> damn you users! lol
[07:19] <bam_> kill -9 dmacdonald111
[07:19] <propagandhi> Flarex_Ruin: it CAN do some stuff like that, but not without learning and installing stuff - and it definitely wont run all EA stuff, maybe a select few
[07:19] <SuseUX> Flarex_Ruin, you can play games, Windwos games with cedega and some native linux games
[07:19] <dmacdonald111> nooooooooooooooo!
[07:19] <bam_> ;)
[07:19] <ubuntu_> he4y where are the harddrives mounted if i'm using a ubuntu live cd
[07:19] <Flarex_Ruin> I'll be honest, I'm quite afraid of Linux
[07:19] <ZeZu> everything in it is OK unless its (EE) right ?
[07:20] <propagandhi> Flarex_Ruin: so i bill gates
[07:20] <dmacdonald111> not my fault! last time I was in here, I was told that breezy was totally stable!
[07:20] <SuseUX> ubotu, they are not
[07:20] <propagandhi> *is
[07:20] <ubotu> SuseUX: I think you lost me on that one
[07:20] <Flarex_Ruin> Is there any Windows Emulators...?
[07:20] <mojo> Quequeg: hi i got a weird problem... my DEL key stopped doing anything.  It shows in xev okay, other kbds make no diff, but X does not seem to respond to it (X.Org).  any ideas?
[07:20] <bam_> you have to give linux at least 4 weeks
[07:20] <ZeZu> (II) is info | (WW) is warning ?
[07:20] <bam_> wine
[07:20] <propagandhi> Flarex_Ruin: you can use vmware under linux
[07:20] <dmacdonald111> aw, do I have to?
[07:20] <ZeZu> Flarex_Ruin, there is wine and there is vmware which you can run windows on
[07:20] <dmacdonald111> ^wining
[07:20] <dmacdonald111> hehe
[07:20] <ubuntu_> anybody?
[07:20] <Flarex_Ruin> Whats that prop?
[07:20] <bam_> lol
[07:20] <Quequeg> mojo, not particularly -- why single me out?  ;)
[07:21] <SuseUX> it's pointless telling him about running Windows programs
[07:21] <bam_> no win(dows)e(mulator)
[07:21] <propagandhi> it runs windows in a window under linux
[07:21] <Flarex_Ruin> What makes Ubuntu better then them?
[07:21] <tritium> dmacdonald111, it's not even released yet,
[07:21] <bam_> easy to config
[07:21] <mojo> Oh, sorry.  I typed Q - Colon to mean question.  X-Chat musta did a username lookup / substitution.  :-D
[07:21] <jmhodges> umm.. probably a FAQ for breezy, but anyone else experienced a problem with totem knowing what to do with mpegs?
[07:21] <bam_> took 20 minutes to install ubuntu on my laptop
[07:21] <ZeZu> (WW) Ignoring request to load module GLcore
[07:21] <dmacdonald111> as I've just seen tritium. lol. I have it though :)
[07:22] <bam_> recognized everything(except my firewire)
[07:22] <mojo> Quequeg: Oh, sorry.  I typed Q - Colon to mean question.  X-Chat musta did a username lookup / substitution.  :-D
[07:22] <Flarex_Ruin> Can I dual boot Ubuntu and Windows, and select which one at start up?
[07:22] <bam_> yup
[07:22] <SuseUX> jmhodges, yer, it dont play them :-)
[07:22] <bam_> thats what grub is for
[07:22] <dmacdonald111> but it isn't easy Flarex_Ruin
[07:22] <lui> yes Flarex_Ruin
[07:22] <Flarex_Ruin> Darn, I'm looking for easy
[07:22] <SuseUX> it's easy
[07:22] <bam_> depends on what you consider easy...
[07:23] <mojo> Flarex_Ruin: not terribly hard either, just need to be sure u know what is on what partition already
[07:23] <propagandhi> Flarex_Ruin: you wont be able to do it if you dont at least have a spare partition, and if you cant afford to lose your existing data, and you cant back it up
[07:23] <dmacdonald111> not if you don't know linux at all
[07:23] <ZeZu> (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found
[07:23] <kevogod> It IS easy if you have Windows installed first.
[07:23] <SuseUX> most distros now do it automaticly
[07:23] <bam_> if he has an extra hdd he can use it
[07:23] <ZeZu> does agp have a pci busid ?
[07:23] <bam_> dual boot
[07:23] <kevogod> If not, it may be more of a challenge for a novice.
[07:23] <jmhodges> back
[07:23] <propagandhi> thats right but he said he didnt
[07:23] <Flarex_Ruin> C:\ has my windows and some stuff, D:\ is mostly programs
[07:23] <ZeZu> or does it just scan that first ?
[07:23] <mojo> Flarex_Ruin: If Win is already installed, esp. if room to spare, Ubuntu will install after and include the Windows install in GRUB
[07:23] <propagandhi> Flarex_Ruin: then move everything to C:
[07:23] <jmhodges> SuseUX: yeah, thanks.. just installed totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer.. silly me
[07:23] <budluva> anyone know what mirror i can apt j2re?
[07:24] <duncanm> is eclipse still broken on breezy?
[07:24] <propagandhi> and you can use D:
[07:24] <kevogod> duncanm, Broken for me.
[07:24] <jmhodges> btw breezy is amazing
[07:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell budluva about java
[07:24] <bam_> then he can use partition majic in windows and resize the partition
[07:24] <mojo> Flarex_Ruin: GRUB being the GRand Unified Boot-loader that lets u pick the OS to boot
[07:24] <lui> Flarex_Ruin, you don't have 2 hardrives, or do you?
[07:24] <jmhodges> so, thanks for rocking
[07:24] <bam_> just free up say 10 gigs
[07:24] <Flarex_Ruin> No way I can move everything to C:\ it's only 20 gigs and D:\ is 60 gigs
[07:24] <duncanm> jmhodges: frankly, i don't see it to be that different from hoary
[07:24] <Flarex_Ruin> 1 hard drive partitioned
[07:24] <SuseUX> jmhodges,  xine is good, gstreamer dont play .mov files
[07:24] <propagandhi> Flarex_Ruin: do you have the windows cd
[07:24] <bam_> so you have 2 hdd's
[07:25] <nalioth> SuseUX: it does if you install libquicktime
[07:25] <kevogod> duncanm, One step at at time, one step
[07:25] <jmhodges> SuseUX: exactly, yeah.. i just forogt that when the distro upgrade happens, it autoinstalls totem-gstreamer again.. need my w32codecs :-/
[07:25] <mojo> QUESTION: hi i got a weird problem... my DEL key stopped doing anything.  It shows in xev okay, other kbds make no diff, but X does not seem to respond to it (X.Org).  any ideas?
[07:25] <Flarex_Ruin> No, I don't have the windows CD, the people that put together my system are out of business and they never gave me anything regarding windows
[07:25] <kevogod> !tell jmhodges about w32codecs
[07:25] <cafuego_> SuseUX: even on amd64 it plays .mov
[07:25] <SuseUX> nalioth, did that, gstreamer didnot play it
[07:25] <lui> Flarex_Ruin, ok, the best optio is 2 hardrives but that is out of this discussion ;)
[07:25] <nalioth> jmhodges: if you upgraded, your codecs should still be there
[07:25] <propagandhi> Flarex_Ruin: can you obtain said windows
[07:25] <SuseUX> unless soemthing has changed
[07:25] <Flarex_Ruin> said?
[07:25] <jmhodges> nalioth: yeah, thanks
[07:26] <shreevatsa> !tell me about w32codecs
[07:26] <propagandhi> can you get a windows cd from any source
[07:26] <Trashcan> !tell me about w32codecs
[07:26] <SuseUX> Flarex_Ruin, do you want a simple solution?
[07:26] <Flarex_Ruin> My dad has a windows xp disc I believe
[07:26] <jmhodges> kevogod: i just insatalled via marillat..
[07:26] <mojo> ALSO: The DEL on Num-pad works fine (when numlock off, of course ;-)
[07:26] <Trashcan> lol shreevatsa, nice timing
[07:26] <propagandhi> Flarex_Ruin: xp pro or home
[07:26] <jmhodges> thanks though, guys
[07:26] <Flarex_Ruin> SuseUX: that's why I'm here ;o)
[07:26] <Trashcan> !tell me about w32codecs
[07:26] <jmhodges> but thats a solved problem for me
[07:26] <jmhodges> heh
[07:26] <Flarex_Ruin> I'm not sure prop, I know I'm running XP
[07:26] <jmhodges> !tell trashcan about w32codecs
[07:26] <Flarex_Ruin> Give me 2 secs
[07:26] <Trashcan> thansk jm ;)
[07:26] <propagandhi> I mean your dads cd
[07:26] <Trashcan> thanks*
[07:26] <SuseUX> Flarex_Ruin, firstly backup you important data, liek music files, docs, NO programs
[07:27] <jmhodges> Trashcan: np, next time try !tell trashman yourself ;0
[07:27] <ZeZu> here is the error
[07:27] <jmhodges> er.. :)
[07:27] <ZeZu> (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_EINVAL"
[07:27] <eXcentra> How do I toggle Headphones in with amixer?
[07:27] <rewine> hi
[07:27] <Leiboureen> can somebody help me with a TV card?
[07:27] <Trashcan> it worked, it just said 'someone already said that 22 seconds ago'
[07:27] <Flarex_Ruin> it's pro
[07:27] <jmhodges> kevogod: the jre debs would have been handy before i made them myself..
[07:27] <SuseUX> Flarex_Ruin, Secondly, If Windows is that bad just install ubuntu fresh
[07:27] <propagandhi> Flarex_Ruin: ok, easy
[07:27] <rewine> kinsa clasmet dha cliff john gwapo
[07:27] <jmhodges> never doing that again.. ick
[07:27] <shreevatsa> How do I ask questions to the ubotu without irritating everyone?
[07:27] <shreevatsa> I mean, without everyone seeing it?
[07:27] <propagandhi> Flarex_Ruin: do you have all the software you need to reinstall
[07:28] <nalioth> !msg the bot
[07:28] <rewine> gwapo c cliff ayaw saba
[07:28] <cafuego_> shreevatsa: just send ubotu a private message
[07:28] <Flarex_Ruin> Should I just back up all my important things, and then just wipe and re-install?
[07:28] <SuseUX> Flarex_Ruin, thats the way, just do it and start using Linux
[07:28] <shreevatsa> thanks
[07:28] <tritium> jmhodges, it's not so hard to build a java .deb
[07:28] <propagandhi> Flarex_Ruin: yes, move them to D:
[07:28] <bam_> yes
[07:28] <rewine> FUCK YOU SUCCERS
[07:28] <SuseUX> nice
[07:28] <kevogod> jmhodges, Well, those debs are sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb, the ones I have built are update05
[07:28] <aurax> haha
[07:28] <propagandhi> then install windows to D: but do not format the partition
[07:28] <Flarex_Ruin> and then I'll install ubuntu and have a brand new HD
[07:28] <cafuego_> It's "suckers".
[07:28] <Slaj_R> Question:  I followed the steps at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683, and I still have no wireless.  Troubleshooting suggestions?
[07:28] <aurax> that was fast nalioth
[07:28] <propagandhi> and then you can install ubuntu on C:
[07:28] <shreevatsa> !msg ubotu java
[07:28] <ubotu> shreevatsa: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:29] <sambagirl> should you download .rpm files?
[07:29] <aurax> lol
[07:29] <nalioth> shreevatsa: /msg ubotu msg the bot
[07:29] <shreevatsa> !msg ubotu w32codecs
[07:29] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, shreevatsa
[07:29] <cafuego_> aurax: It never takes long after thay start speaking in tongues.
[07:29] <jmhodges> kevogod: ahh ok
[07:29] <shreevatsa> oops
[07:29] <nalioth> sambagirl: not really
[07:29] <tritium> sambagirl, what for?
[07:29] <bam_> you wont have to partition it, ubuntu will do that for you
[07:29] <aurax> hehe
[07:29] <kevogod> jmhodges, Not that it really makes any difference
[07:29] <SuseUX> WTF?
[07:29] <SuseUX> install on C:?
[07:29] <CaiN_SA> i got a new hp 8220 and the ubuntu installer doesnt want to start any ideas ?
[07:29] <aurax> wtf?
[07:29] <kevogod> jmhodges, But I like having the latest version
[07:29] <aurax> lol
[07:29] <aurax> this is funny
[07:29] <sambagirl> i gnormalize
[07:29] <pupil> what player should I use if I want to play mpeg, avi and wmv files?
[07:29] <jmhodges> crap.. my vids now have a strange blue tone.. almost like sepia..not sure what the word is
[07:29] <sambagirl> some kind of thingy
[07:29] <nalioth> pupil: any you like
[07:30] <jmhodges> pupil: totem-xine and also install w32codecs
[07:30] <sambagirl> xmms to much difficulty
[07:30] <cafuego_> pupil: totem with plugins or xine or mplayer
[07:30] <SuseUX> Flarex_Ruin, just follow what I said and you canot go wrong
[07:30] <nalioth> sambagirl: install beep media player
[07:30] <propagandhi> SuseUX - i am using a terminology Flarex_Ruin understands
[07:30] <bam_> thingy...whats a thingy?
[07:30] <pupil> jmhodges, can I apt-get it ?
[07:30] <Flarex_Ruin> ill start backing up all my files
[07:30] <me_> hey people; how can i set up multiple monitors in breezy?
[07:30] <eXcentra> Does anybody know how to toggle Headphones in amixer?
[07:30] <ZeZu> damn these are the exact same errors i have had the whole time
[07:30] <nalioth> pupil: you can apt the totem
[07:30] <sambagirl> juts type install beep[ media playet ?
[07:30] <ZeZu> and patches didn't work last time
[07:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pupil about w32codecs
[07:30] <ZeZu> wtf ubuntu doesn't come w/ gcc ?
[07:30] <calc> bam_: not to be confused with thingee ;)
[07:30] <nalioth> sambagirl: use synaptic
[07:30] <sambagirl> nalioth what i should type?
[07:30] <bam_> Flarex_Ruin, good
[07:30] <Flarex_Ruin> back a few seconds guys, my computer is crashing
[07:31] <ZeZu> also does it not create a root act ?
[07:31] <bam_> i thought thingee was plural
[07:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ZeZu about root
[07:31] <bam_> of thingy
[07:31] <jmhodges> anyone futzed with totem's colors.. the Saturation, Hue, etc. dont seem to do anything
[07:31] <lui> Flarex_Ruin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//WindowsDualBootHowTo
[07:31] <calc> bam_: heh
[07:31] <ZeZu> yes thats what i thought
[07:31] <SuseUX> Propagandhi, C:/ it not right in the frist place for starters
[07:31] <cafuego_> No, it would be C:\
[07:31] <bam_> no-dual boot, no-dual boot
[07:32] <propagandhi> did i write C:/
[07:32] <erick> anyone from the group know how to disable the bios password of UM8498F, there is no cmos batterry
[07:32] <sambagirl> is earched for beep it did not see it
[07:32] <bam_> wait I dual boot
[07:32] <sambagirl> searched
[07:32] <propagandhi> no i didnt
[07:32] <propagandhi> i wrote C:
[07:32] <mcquaid> hello, i've just upgraded to breezy without too many issues. however i use a custom kernel and i'm having some difficulty recompiling it
[07:32] <cafuego_> erick: what bios is it? award?
[07:32] <nalioth> sambagirl:  beep-media-player
[07:32] <bam_> yes, nice player
[07:33] <SuseUX> Propagandhi, thats just plane picky
[07:33] <mcquaid> i didn't want to recompile the kern, but nvidia flagged me that gcc4 is in use but my existing kernel was compiled with 3.x
[07:33] <ZeZu> synaptic says i have gcc3.3base installed but gcc/make are not doing anything ?
[07:33] <propagandhi> SuseUX: and what would u say your doing
[07:33] <calc> banshee looks cool
[07:33] <mcquaid> so i thought i'd recompile the kern but getting this error with make gconfig:
[07:33] <nalioth> ZeZu: install "build-essential"
[07:33] <ZeZu> thx
[07:33] <mcquaid> /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found
[07:33] <ZerockedGalathil> crap, i can't click anything on my desktop again -_-
[07:33] <jmhodges> omg, libnotify is being used in breezy?
[07:33] <cafuego_> mcquaid: the nvidia modules are already compiled. linux-restricted-modules
[07:33] <jmhodges> sweet!
[07:33] <sambagirl> nalioth it does not see it
[07:33] <SuseUX> Propagandhi, never mind
[07:33] <mcquaid> ya i know i don't use those
[07:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sambagirl about sources
[07:33] <erick> cafuego AWARD v4.50G
[07:33] <propagandhi> SuseUX: great, thanx for your input
[07:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sambagirl about repos
[07:34] <cafuego_> erick: use AWARD_SW as pass, then remove the real pass.
[07:34] <orko> how would I go about replacing the aacraid.ko module that the hoary installer cd uses
[07:34] <erick> its my old 80486
[07:34] <ZeZu> thank god i have a good connection, else this would be a mess
[07:34] <cafuego_> mcquaid: Then support is availble on www.nvidia.com
[07:34] <XtR> Gah. How do I reconfigure X in Ubuntu?
[07:34] <thewayofzen> minimal ubuntu install .. done with a server install.. then installed xfce.. no gnome.
[07:34] <ZerockedGalathil> rebooting again
[07:34] <erick> cafuego wow, its work thanks
[07:34] <thewayofzen> would anyone be able to explain why gaim wont play sounds and i get errors
[07:34] <mcquaid> hmm, ignore that i mentioned nvidia, i'm just trying to compile the ubuntu source with make gconfig
[07:34] <thewayofzen> but xmms works fine with alsa
[07:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell XtR about fixres
[07:34] <SuseUX> Propagandhi, telling someone that they install ubuntu on c: is just plain wrong
[07:34] <mcquaid> why am i getting gcc3.4 not found errors
[07:35] <calc> cafuego_: heh sounds like award bios is really secure ;)
[07:35] <sambagirl> nalioth can't i typpe apt get beep-media
[07:35] <XtR> Thanks.
[07:35] <cafuego_> mcquaid: Coz gcc 3.4 isn't installed.
[07:35] <Slaj_R> quick question:  in the tutorial at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683, under step 3, how do I know where the line breaks are in that code?
[07:35] <nalioth> mcquaid: is it installed?
[07:35] <Octane> anyone know if flash is out of ramd64?
[07:35] <sambagirl> apt-get
[07:35] <cafuego_> mcquaid: hint: install it
[07:35] <nalioth> sambagirl: ?
[07:35] <mcquaid> heh yes i should do that, i have 3.3 and 4.0
[07:35] <propagandhi> SuseUX: u missed the vitals of the conversation, i was explaining what he could do with his current setup
[07:35] <sambagirl> nevermind :)
[07:35] <mcquaid> i thought ubuntu was using 4.0 now
[07:35] <mcquaid> so i thought i had to force it to use 4.0 or something
[07:35] <cafuego_> mcquaid: Yes, but not for the kernel.
[07:35] <nalioth> mcquaid: it does. install "build-essential" and "gcc-3.4"
[07:36] <propagandhi> SuseUX: he explained his partitions as C and D, I merely told him he would be able to use what he knew as C to install it
[07:36] <propagandhi> SuseUX: i was telling him to move the data from his C to the D
[07:36] <cafuego_> propagandhi:
[07:37] <mcquaid> ah i forgot, build-essential got flagged for removal during breezy
[07:37] <mcquaid> thx
[07:37] <propagandhi> cafuego_:
[07:37] <cafuego_> if he wants to dual-boot, he should leave C: as windows can't boot off D without having an 8Mb FAT32 partition on C;
[07:37] <ect4> hi
[07:37] <thewayofzen> i used to get sound out of gaim in xfce by configuring the sound to COMMAND and then using play %s
[07:37] <thewayofzen> no advice?
[07:38] <SuseUX> cafuego_, correct
[07:38] <erick> cafuego can 80486 support boot on cdrom
[07:38] <nalioth> erick: use a boot floppy
[07:38] <cafuego_> erick: If the bios supports it, sure.
[07:38] <propagandhi> cafuego_: thats not true
[07:38] <cafuego_> propagandhi: Yes, it is.
[07:38] <propagandhi> cafuego_: well explain why I am doing it right now
[07:38] <cafuego_> propagandhi: Unless you start swapping drives about in the bios.
[07:38] <erick> but nalioth I want to try the pxe thin client that can only boot on cdrom
[07:39] <cafuego_> propagandhi: Maybe I imagined the whole thing then.
[07:39] <nalioth> erick: try your machine. if cdrom wont boot, you can make a boot floppy that'll boot the cdrom
[07:40] <SuseUX> some people have a weird way of explaining things
[07:40] <sambagirl> is there a channel for getting rudimentary ubuntu support?
[07:40] <tristan622ph> how do i install java?
[07:40] <cafuego_> !java
[07:40] <ubotu> javadeb is, like, totally, for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[07:40] <nalioth> sambagirl: you are here
[07:40] <erick> nalioth, yeah I know that thanks
[07:40] <sambagirl> haha
[07:40] <mojo> sambagirl: this one
[07:40] <tristan622ph> i already installed it but when i run the azureus it says Starting Azureus...
[07:40] <tristan622ph> Java exec not found in PATH, starting auto-search...
[07:40] <tristan622ph> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy
[07:40] <tristan622ph> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://java.sun.com
[07:40] <nalioth> tristan622ph: dont paste in here
[07:40] <sambagirl> ok i downloaded 2 different ones
[07:40] <tristan622ph> sorry
[07:40] <sambagirl> so they are .deb
[07:40] <nalioth> tristan622ph: you got your answer from ubotu
[07:40] <sambagirl> so now i'm stuck
[07:41] <cafuego_> tristan622ph: Check the appropriate url as posted by ubotu.
[07:41] <nalioth> sambagirl: what is a deb?
[07:41] <sambagirl> this is unix iknow.
[07:41] <sambagirl> a debian file compressoin scheme, no?
[07:41] <mojo> deb is a debian package file
[07:41] <sambagirl> iwas close right?
[07:41] <mojo> sambagirl: similar to an rpm file for the redhat package manager
[07:42] <sambagirl> ahh ok
[07:42] <jmhodges> ok, i dont understand something
[07:42] <sambagirl> so .sco is santa cruz organizatoin
[07:42] <jmhodges> when i take the totem screenshot of a file, the color is just right
[07:42] <mojo> sambagirl: but the .deb packages are usually managed with apt/aptitude/synaptic
[07:42] <jmhodges> but the video still plays heavily tinted in blue
[07:42] <sambagirl> well how do i get thiem in there?
[07:42] <aztektum> is there a way to use wpa w/o wpa_supplicant which doesn't support my pcmcia driver
[07:42] <nalioth> sambagirl: ubotu sent you some info
[07:42] <mojo> sambagirl: Ubuntu is based on the work of Debian, another distribution that serves as a base for many others
[07:43] <cycom> sambagirl: only they update it more often than once a millenia.
[07:43] <sambagirl> ok thanks for your help, i appreciate it.
[07:44] <cafuego_> cycom: decade, not millennium.
[07:44] <sambagirl> nite
[07:44] <sambagirl> :)
[07:44] <sQ> is there any download manager for ubuntu available?
[07:44] <mojo> sambagirl: gnite, gluck
[07:44] <cycom> When they moved from woddy to sarge as 'stable', I thought it was the coming of the apocolypse.  I was waiting for the seven horsemen and all that.
[07:44] <nalioth> sQ: many
[07:44] <cycom> I got indegestion and a cold.
[07:44] <cafuego_> sQ: firefox, wget
[07:44] <Belutz> sQ, d4x
[07:44] <sQ> are they available on synaptic?
[07:45] <nalioth> sQ: yep. enable your universe and multiverse repos
[07:45] <sQ> okay.. thanks..
[07:45] <sQ> any recommandations of which is the better one?
[07:45] <SuseUX> wow, more updates
[07:45] <sambagirl> ahh i did update of supository and now it works
[07:45] <ZeZu> well replacing libdri.a didn't help
[07:45] <sambagirl> thanks much.
[07:46] <nalioth> sQ: use them all, keep what you like
[07:46] <mojo> lol sambagirl
[07:46] <nalioth> Sandollar: no problema
[07:46] <cycom> sambagirl: yes, but where did you put the updates?
[07:46] <leah> hello
[07:46] <budluva> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-ae79fed9d60ccdf06f400ae76ad53867d94bb2b8 <--- is this the correct way to watch xvid/divx? or do i need to find those codecs elsewhere?
[07:46] <sQ> nalioth, do they accelerate download?
[07:46] <SuseUX> nalioth, is it a bug that the update dont how until you acually go into the updates and refresh?
[07:46] <nalioth> sQ: some more than others
[07:46] <mojo> supository = repository? ha ha
[07:46] <nalioth> sQ: also try prozilla
[07:46] <SuseUX> show*
[07:47] <nalioth> y'all be nice to sambagirl, she doesnt speak english as her first language
[07:47] <cycom> nalioth: I want to know where she learned suppository.
[07:47] <mojo> nalioth: sambagirl: just playing, no problm
[07:47] <sambagirl> i just choose update thingy in the thing you know.
[07:47] <sambagirl> the synaptic thing
[07:47] <mojo> nalioth: yeah, that is one she'll want to get straight for future reference
[07:47] <cycom> sambagirl: be glad that English ain't your first language, because it makes about as much sense as MS Windows.
[07:48] <SuseUX> updater dont work proper in 5.10RC
[07:48] <r0xoR> how do i find the latest version of a package with apt-get
[07:48] <r0xoR> root@ubuntu:~# apt-get install linux-tree-<IP_ADDRESS>
[07:48] <r0xoR> says
[07:48] <cafuego_> sQ: Normally Linux downloads as fast as your connection can handle. Acceleration is not required.
[07:48] <r0xoR> E: Couldn't find package linux-tree-<IP_ADDRESS>
[07:48] <Madpilot> budluva: those instructions are accurate - note the part about disabling the marillat repos afterwards so you don't hose your system
[07:48] <cafuego_> r0xoR: apt-cache search <string>
[07:48] <mojo> r0xoR: i think apt-cache show packagename
[07:48] <erick> cafuego, how about the other brand how can I dissable it
[07:48] <budluva> maddler, marillat or nerim?
[07:48] <cafuego_> erick: sorry, which brand?
[07:48] <nalioth> budluva: both
[07:49] <budluva> ok thanks
[07:49] <erick> any brand that you know just for reference
[07:49] <cafuego_> erick: Just award :-)
[07:49] <mojo> r0xoR: but first apt-get update to re-download lists from repositories
[07:49] <r0xoR> mmm... i did the "updates" when i first installed my system
[07:49] <r0xoR> does that count?
[07:50] <erick> k cafuego tnx
[07:50] <calc> hmm banshee is still a bit buggy
[07:50] <SuseUX> calc, yer but look real promising :-)
[07:50] <r0xoR> well i just ran update so apparently it counts
[07:50] <calc> SuseUX: yea
[07:50] <mojo> cafuego_: isn't the accelerator tech doing compression on the data in conjunction with a back-end at the isp?
[07:51] <calc> also seems to be a bit heavy on ram usage ~ 190MB on my box
[07:51] <SuseUX> mono
[07:51] <cafuego_> Mojo: firefox already does transparent gz compression on text (if apache is set to support it)
[07:51] <SuseUX> thats why
[07:51] <mojo> cafuego_: sweet, didn't know that. :)
[07:51] <calc> yea hopefully they can reduce mono memory usage
[07:52] <cafuego_> mojo: If I were an ISP I wouldn't be wasting cpu cycles on marginally speeding up a download for $USER
[07:52] <cafuego_> calc: Oh, I'm only swapping 500 MB ;-)
[07:52] <mojo> cafuego_: yeah me neither.  i just was wondering how those svcs worked.  i can see dialup isp services tho needing that to help compete nowadays
[07:52] <SuseUX> calc, yer f-spot shows it can
[07:53] <cafuego_> Mojo: <heh> dialup funny. Most shitty DSL here si cheaper then dialup these days.
[07:53] <mojo> cafuego_: at 56k raw data, it would not take too much for a box to handle multiple connex
[07:53] <lui> bye people, thanks
[07:53] <calc> cafuego_: heh i'm only 284MB into swap with just a couple apps open, gaim, gweather, gnome-terminal, xpdf, firefox
[07:53] <cafuego_> mojo: But you're still limited to 56K down. Modems would compress anyway.
[07:53] <mojo> cafuego_: yeah dsl really wants to compete with cable but just cant it seems
[07:54] <SuseUX> banshee is vey much like rhythmbox
[07:54] <nalioth> cafuego_: root access to the mysql database?
[07:54] <swamych> adsl problem
[07:54] <calc> firefox shows its using ~ 450MB
[07:54] <TylerDurden> does anyone know of how i could play mpg files?
[07:54] <TylerDurden> i just installed w32codecs
[07:54] <mojo> cafuego_: true that, i almost forgot about MNP protocol and all that
[07:54] <cafuego_> mojo: DSL2 here is is faster then cable (and offer by ISPs that don't suck)
[07:54] <nalioth> TylerDurden: mplayer, totem, kaffeine, etc
[07:54] <TylerDurden> and it sitll wouldnt play
[07:54] <cafuego_> nalioth: eh?
[07:54] <nalioth> cafuego_: installing blootbot
[07:54] <TylerDurden> totem wont play it even with w32codecs
[07:54] <mojo> cafuego_: been a while since i had to work with modems.  (takes me back...)
[07:54] <nalioth> TylerDurden: wmv3 is out of our reach
[07:54] <cycom> mojo: I use my cell phone and my laptop when I can't hit wifi.
[07:55] <cycom> mojo: it goes at 14.4
[07:55] <TylerDurden> mpg
[07:55] <cafuego_> nalioth: Oh yeah, to set up its tables. The default mysql root pass word is blank.
[07:55] <TylerDurden> not wmv3
[07:55] <joe_> nalioth, heres what i found ---->Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[07:55] <joe_> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[07:55] <sambagirl> beep beep does not play it just freezes
[07:55] <sambagirl> blah
[07:55] <mojo>  cafuego: where are u?  I am in middle Tennessee
[07:55] <calc> cycom: i hear EvDO is cool :)
[07:55] <cycom> mojo: but that's because I'm too cheap to go for the high speed
[07:55] <cafuego_> mojo: Melbourne (AU)
[07:55] <nalioth> joe_: mirrormax is not up anymore
[07:55] <cycom> calc: it is! I use the store phone for that
[07:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell joe_ about backports
[07:55] <cycom> sambagirl: what just freezes?
[07:55] <sambagirl> i wish they had delitracker of something for ubuntu some amiga program would work
[07:55] <joe_> so what other backports whoudli use?
[07:55] <sambagirl> no output
[07:55] <sambagirl> i pick song and it just locks
[07:55] <nalioth> joe_: ahem, ubotu msgd you
[07:55] <mcquaid> anyone know of a good voip/sip irc channel?
[07:55] <cafuego_> cycom: We have 3G/CDMA pcmcia card here now, up to 1.5M wirelessly
[07:55] <sambagirl> i had this issue with Xmms
[07:56] <TylerDurden> nalioth, i meant mpg
[07:56] <mojo> sambagirl: run the UAE on Linux (Universal Amiga Emulator, i think)
[07:56] <sambagirl> i dont have the roms
[07:56] <sambagirl> this i know for fact
[07:56] <cycom> cafuego_: we have it too, but I have an older phone with 1x, so my max is 230kbit
[07:56] <sambagirl> i get tomorrow maybe.
[07:56] <mojo> sambagirl: check in Synaptic for emulators, it is prob there i think i saw it before
[07:56] <sambagirl> ok
[07:56] <sambagirl> brb
[07:56] <cycom> cafuego_: Verizon kicks quite a bit of ass by offering the 14.4 speed for free
[07:57] <nalioth> cafuego_: another project that has befuddled me b4 it starts
[07:57] <cycom> cafuego_: especially since I could get it working for me in windows and linux.  I was most pleased.
[07:57] <mojo> I am planning to get a wireless router here soon and share my cable connect with the neighbors (and they'll chip in).
[07:57] <sambagirl> ok not to make big noise aobut this but is there war between kde and gnome?
[07:57] <mojo> I live in an apartment complex
[07:58] <cafuego_> cycom: Ha. Telstra (shite) offer it by the Kb downloaded.
[07:58] <nalioth> sambagirl: no more a war then the one between chevy and ford
[07:58] <jmhodges> ok, howabout this
[07:58] <cycom> sambagirl: no, between KDE and Gnome USERS! :)
[07:58] <sambagirl> ahh
[07:58] <sambagirl> ok
[07:58] <sambagirl> nite!
[07:58] <jmhodges> anyone know where totem saves its hue and saturation settings ?
[07:58] <sambagirl> thank you
[07:58] <[LethAL] > !start a desktop war
[07:58] <ubotu> fluxbox is much better than xfce!
[07:58] <cycom> cafuego_: ouch! well, this just uses minutes.
[07:58] <cycom> cafuego_: but nights and weekends are free
[07:58] <mojo> If I get the funds to dedicate an old box, I'll set it up as a free WAP
[07:58] <cafuego_> nalioth: ... and you haven't even seen the blootbot code yet!
[07:58] <cycom> cafuego_: my last bill showed 1200 minute usage, but over 1000 were night and weekend
[07:59] <cycom> mojo: just buy a few wrt54g routers and run openwrt
[07:59] <nalioth> cafuego_: it wont install, i'm off to talk to uncle google
[07:59] <r0xoR> !tell me about nvidia
[07:59] <neighborlee> why isn't auto-apt working ....? ( auto-apt search glx.h < yields a  blank line )
[07:59] <mojo> cycom: yeah, i was thinking along those lines too
[07:59] <cycom> mojo: you can make a pretty gnarly network off a few of those.  You can use em as bridges and stuff.
[07:59] <cafuego_> nalioth: Well, it *is* evil.
[07:59] <mojo> cycom: i was also looking into MeshBox and MeshAP, among others.
[07:59] <cycom> mojo: Get a pair for a few houses and you have a community wireless network.
[08:00] <mojo> cycom: and I am also interested in projects like Netsukuku, FreeNet, Tor, and such
[08:00] <sambagirl> they have satellite tracking program
[08:00] <cycom> mojo: Haven't seen those yet!
[08:00] <cycom> I'll have to look
[08:00] <SuseUX> hmm, totem still dont play mpeg
[08:01] <mojo> cycom: Netsukuku is a net to run on wireless meshes that uses fractal mapping to compress route tables, it is really cool idea for free mesh networking
[08:01] <kYotiK> im trying to compile xgdipc, and it depends on GTK >=1.0.2, I already have a newer version installed of course, but i keep getting build errors saying: "configure: error: Cannot find GTK+: Is gtk-config in executable path?"     can anyone help me out?
[08:01] <mojo> cycom: TOR, The Onion Router, is an anonymizing network you can read about at eff.org
[08:01] <sambagirl> wow it asking for cdrom for doing install is this normal?
[08:01] <jmhodges> ok, i found the gconf settings
[08:01] <jmhodges> but changing them doesnt seem to do anything
[08:01] <cafuego_> kYotiK: you need the gtk -dev package too.
[08:01] <jmhodges> im very, very confused..
[08:01] <cycom> mojo: whoa. that's for big efficeint networks, yeah?
[08:02] <cycom> sambagirl: you can remove it from your apt-sources, if you like, I think.
[08:02] <cafuego_> sambagirl: If you didn't remove the crdom from the list of available sources, yes, that's normal.
[08:02] <mojo> cycom: FreeNet is a distributed file store and publishing network, also anon and with encrypted local store for deniability of liability for whatever happens to be there (u dedicate some store to the collective, basically)
[08:02] <cycom> mojo: like the borg :)
[08:03] <cycom> mojo: What OSs does it runinmificate on?
[08:03] <mojo> cycom: I am VERY interested in promoting darknet/alter-net, and free mesh wireless networks
[08:03] <mojo> cycom: ha ha
[08:03] <mojo> cycom: Linux
[08:03] <kYotiK> cafuego_,  what is the gtk-devel package? whats it called do you know?
[08:03] <cycom> mojo: only?
[08:03] <cafuego_> cycom: it's java, runs on whatever java runs on.
[08:04] <intelikey> sambagirl yes it is normal, if you have cdrom(s) as sources and what you are installing "including any deps" can be found there.
[08:04] <ZeZu> haha
[08:04] <cafuego_> kYotiK: 'apt-cache search gtk dev' is your friend.
[08:04] <cycom> cafuego_: ah HA!
[08:04] <ZeZu> i have a file named ~ in my user directory
[08:04] <ZeZu> how can  i mv it so it has a diff name ?
[08:04] <cafuego_> ZeZu: mv \~ foo
[08:04] <ZeZu> thx
[08:05] <intelikey> or quote it.
[08:05] <mojo> cycom: http://netsukuku.freaknet.org/
[08:05] <nalioth> cafuego_: will infobot info help me?
[08:05] <mojo> cycom: these are open source projects
[08:05] <cafuego_> nalioth: Nah, blootbot is just broken.
[08:05] <mojo> cycom: http://freenetproject.org
[08:05] <nalioth> great
[08:06] <cafuego_> nalioth: Install, edit the postinst script (make it exist immediately) then set up the DB by hand, edit the cfg files.
[08:06] <cafuego_> nalioth: coz the postinst is eeeeevil!
[08:07] <mojo> cycom: http://mnetproject.org/intro
[08:07] <cycom> mojo: Thanks!
[08:07] <jmhodges> ok, yep, its a totem xine problem.. hmm
[08:07] <mojo> cycom: http://freehaven.net/anonbib/topic.html - anonymity bibliography
[08:07] <mojo> cycom: only a couple more, b r b
[08:07] <jmhodges> but now that i switched over to totem-g, changed the hue, then switched back.. it works
[08:07] <jmhodges> wtf
[08:07] <mojo> cycom: oh, no prob.  told ya i'm intrerested in promoting the ideas
[08:07] <cycom> mojo: that seems like an awesome idea, but a double edged sword.
[08:08] <jmhodges> but the sliders in totem-xine are totally disconnected
[08:08] <mojo> cycom: http://6sxoyfb3h2nvok2d.onion/tor/FrontPage is the Hidden Wikki, running over TOR (eff.org)
[08:08] <woodwizzle> Anyone using breezy get live queries in beagle to work?
[08:08] <dmacdonald111> ain't there a lot of people here.
[08:09] <cycom> mojo: I was hoping to create an on campus site at my college for linux distros for people to try and download
[08:09] <Trashcan> anyone know of a nix codec for WMA?
[08:09] <mojo> cycom: that would be an awesome project
[08:09] <cafuego_> Trashcan: Not for WMA9.
[08:09] <Trashcan> bah
[08:09] <Trashcan> ok
[08:10] <Trashcan> thanks
[08:10] <Trashcan> <-- entire music collection (286gb) in wma :)
[08:10] <aftertaf> ouch
[08:10] <mojo> cycom: finally found last one, http://tor.eff.org/ (duh!)
[08:11] <dmacdonald111> is wma smaller than ogg?
[08:11] <Trashcan> not sure
[08:11] <mojo> cycom: dbl edged sword?
[08:11] <nalioth> dmacdonald111: wma is evil
[08:11] <cafuego_> dmacdonald111: I believe so. I also think they sound worse
[08:11] <mojo> cycom: like freedom of speech?  (ya gotta let the spch u dont like too)
[08:12] <dmacdonald111> I've just been reading about it on the forum. ogg is smaller than mp3 and better quality.
[08:12] <moua> does anyone here use easy ubuntu after a fresh install ?
[08:12] <dmacdonald111> At least I know what all those files are now :)
[08:12] <Trashcan> i prefer ogg over mp3
[08:12] <cafuego_> I prefer what my player can play.
[08:12] <Trashcan> but my ripping software, and mp3 player, don't support ogg
[08:12] <c0p> yay 2 days
[08:12] <intelikey>  /cycle
[08:12] <cycom> mojo: no, I mean like people could abuse it
[08:12] <mojo> Trashcan: me too.  patent free is the way to be.  likewise FLAC over SHN
[08:13] <cycom> mojo: but I'd rather have it abused than eliminated
[08:13] <moua> mp3 is a very old format... but it's now universal. Almost everything with the capacity to play digital sounds can play mp3
[08:13] <Trashcan> i absolutely do NOT like patented formats- that's like saying you have to pay a fee to write in italian
[08:13] <dmacdonald111> why ogg though? Did they think of the future? - 'ooh! I'm getting an ogg player for christmas' - and the like. lol
[08:13] <mojo> cycom: what can't ppl abuse?  honestly.  ppls will find ways to communicate.  but it is neighborly to help make it easier.  the future always lies in the shadow of regulation/control/censorship
[08:13] <HrdwrBob> dmacdonald111: ogg is 'free'
[08:13] <cycom> mojo: exactly
[08:14] <mojo> cycom: namaste!
[08:14] <dmacdonald111> ah! Makes sense!
[08:14] <moua> free is not enouth HrdwrBob :/
[08:14] <cycom> mojo?
[08:14] <mojo> cycom: (sanskrit word for meeting of the minds
[08:14] <mojo> cycom: (sanskrit word for meeting of the minds and a salutation
[08:15] <cycom> mojo: but yeah, my concern is that my college will see it as 'file sharing' and be irritated, but I think they may have to suck it up.
[08:15] <DShepherd> dmacdonald111:   Ogg Vorbis is a completely open, patent-free, professional audio encoding and streaming technology with all the benefits of Open Source
[08:15] <cycom> mojo: where abouts you from?
[08:15] <dmacdonald111> All this new technology. tut! I dunno. Still trying to work out the bl**dy dvd player
[08:15] <mojo> cycom: oh, i see.  well how could that be for ur project?  ur only doing distro sampling, no?
[08:16] <dmacdonald111> I really must find out more about this open source millarky. Sounds interesting
[08:16] <erick> Just to ask if used ubuntu for server purposes
[08:16] <mojo> cycom: i live in middle tennessee, as of recently.  i spent 20 years near saint louis, and a few years up in minnesota (pre-teen)
[08:16] <intelikey> millarky dmacdonald111 ?
[08:16] <nalioth> intelikey: malarkey in some places
[08:16] <dmacdonald111> lol. Millarky - stuff
[08:17] <HrdwrBob> moua: it's free and better
[08:17] <moua> DShepherd : AAC (and AAC+ and eAAC+) are many more used in this case
[08:17] <HrdwrBob> moua: however if you have an mp3 player
[08:17] <HrdwrBob> it is of no use to you
[08:17] <dmacdonald111> it's like a funny way to say damn thing! - with a sense of humour kind of thing. Well, that's what I use it for anyhoo. lol
[08:17] <Yawgmoth7> I think htat dpkg is screwed up
[08:17] <Yawgmoth7> I can install anything
[08:18] <Yawgmoth7> I always get this error:
[08:18] <dmacdonald111> I'm going to change
[08:18] <navyn> dmacdonald111, but it won't play in your cd/mp3 player
[08:18] <cycom> mojo: yeah.  That doesn't affect my idea.  But I'm also interested in running a free file distribution system.  The problem is that they would probobly mix music and movies in with the legit free stuff
[08:18] <Yawgmoth7> dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory
[08:18] <cycom> mojo: I live in Connecticut.  I'm originally from Mississippi.
[08:18] <Myrtti> sponk
[08:18] <cycom> but I only lived there for about 6 month before we moved up here.
[08:18] <Yawgmoth7> And that is right after it starts to configure the packages
[08:18] <dmacdonald111> yeah, but you could get around that navyn I think. I don't know how everything works (or anything) but it seems to me, that if you could build a computer system from the ground up, a little player shouldn't be too much of a problem.
[08:19] <erick> Guys can I used ubuntu for my email server? I used postfix and openwebmail
[08:19] <dmacdonald111> ah!
[08:19] <foXgamer> s'beta!
[08:19] <cycom> awright.  Time for bed.  it's 2 in the morning and I have a trig quiz tomorrow
[08:19] <mojo> dmacdonald111: if u r havin probs with DVDs, you probably need the dvddecss library to remove the CSS scramble that the proprietary-information folks at the movie companies and the drive mfg's put in there to keep you from reading it w/o their blessing
[08:19] <erick> cycom gudluck
[08:19] <intelikey> howto jail(chroot) a user at login ?
[08:20] <mojo> foXgamer: (was dmacdonald111) - there is a place where free/nonfree software is touching you
[08:20] <foXgamer> mojo: er, I have been having problems with playing dvd's, but I haven't mentioned it. Are you pyschic?
[08:20] <ZeZu> where are the source code packages for ubuntu ?
[08:20] <cycom> erick: thanks!
[08:21] <Slaj_R> question:
[08:21] <foXgamer> touching me? eugh! get it off! get it off! ah!
[08:21] <erick> cycom what course you are taking
[08:21] <ZeZu> just linux-source *
[08:22] <ZeZu> ?
[08:22] <Slaj_R> In the "how to configure wireless cards with Broadcom chipsets" tutorial, is the "for...do...done" routine to be entered as one single statement?
[08:22] <nalioth> ZeZu: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[08:22] <Slaj_R> Anyone?
[08:23] <cycom> erick: trig 119.  I got to skip math 099 and 101 because of my placement test.
[08:23] <sQ> how do i create a shortcut to an app on gnome panel?
[08:23] <cycom> erick: a quick step ahead so I can start computer science.
[08:23] <sambagirl> what is apache geronimo?
[08:24] <sambagirl> some contest?
[08:24] <mojo> foXgamer: no, i was reading you as dmacdonald111 and you mentioned it
[08:24] <ZeZu> how can i disable DRM ?
[08:25] <erick> Guys when I boot on floppy and select option 1 that support cdrom I got this error PCI READ CONFIGURATION FAILURE, I replace my IDE cable and still i got this error, I want to boot on cdrom, what do you think is problem
[08:25] <intelikey> comment it out in /etc/X11/xorg.conf will work ZeZu
[08:25] <ZeZu> ok
[08:26] <mojo> foXgamer: You said... All this new technology. tut! I dunno. Still trying to work out the bl**dy dvd player
[08:26] <Slaj_R> anyone have a quick answer:  is "for...do...done" at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 all entered in one statement at the prompt, or separated by cr's?
[08:26] <Razor-X> have the hoary repos stopped being worked on?
[08:26] <Slaj_R> Instructions are vague.
[08:26] <foXgamer> mojo: oh! I mean the one attached to the telly. lol. Don't worry. My humour takes a lot to get used to :)
[08:26] <SuseUX> ok, I really like OO.o2
[08:27] <nalioth> sQ: /msg ubotu smeg
[08:27] <erick> cycom you mean to say that you are in highschool level
[08:27] <foXgamer> I am having problems playing on the computer though. I don't seem to be able to find a css file that works on 64bit though
[08:27] <SuseUX> gnome icons and gtk+
[08:27] <benplaut> anyone know how to make OOo2 auto-double space at start of sentence?
[08:27] <cycom> erick: no, that's college level.
[08:27] <cycom> erick: freshman college.
[08:27] <propagandhi> Slaj_R: enter all on one line
[08:27] <jans> hi ace
[08:28] <cycom> erick: trig is a cakewalk, but I need it for comp sci
[08:28] <Slaj_R> thanks, prop.
[08:28] <intelikey> Slaj_R if you enter a for statement on the command line you use ";" simicolen to seperate the parts of it.    "for this in blah ;do that to $this ;done"
[08:28] <erick> cycom K, yes I remember, trigo thats my favorite subject when Im on college level
[08:28] <Trashcan> <-- highschool
[08:28] <Slaj_R> then it seems there's a missing semicolon.
[08:28] <Slaj_R> Is that an accurate assessment?
[08:28] <Razor-X> I'm in high school as well
 what year?
[08:29] <cycom> erick: I took AP stat in highschool.  Easy, but boooooooriing.
[08:29] <Slaj_R> I want to make sure I've got it right.  My finger's hovering over 'enter'
[08:29] <jans> hi
[08:29] <Razor-X> cycom: AP Stats is a waste of time, i'm not going to waste my brains on that :P
[08:29] <cycom> Razor-X: Amen brother!
[08:29] <erick> cycom yeah I know but it is a part of the curriculum, any course
[08:30] <Razor-X> although, I will be finished by all math courses (AP and not) by Junior-year summer
[08:30] <logikal_> Can kaffiene play embedded video?
[08:30] <propagandhi> Slaj_R: in that same thread theres a mod to that command, instead of that do this sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf
[08:30] <Razor-X> not quite sure what'll happen then
[08:30] <cycom> erick: I shoulda taken calc.
[08:31] <Razor-X> cycom: what are you going to major in?
[08:31] <Slaj_R> propagandhi:  That replaces the whole command?
[08:31] <propagandhi> yes
[08:31] <propagandhi> but u need to run it with sudo
[08:32] <daxxar> If I want to configure my moniter in Xorg properly, what do I need? I can only find one herz-range (50-90Hz), but I seem to need two?
[08:32] <cycom> Razor-X: comp sci and mech engineering.  Hopefully dual major.  Robotics is the goal.
[08:32] <jans> hi
[08:32] <Slaj_R> okay, so "sudo <what you posted>"?
[08:32] <Razor-X> cycom: doesen't everyone go into Comp Sci? :P
[08:32] <jans> hi
[08:32] <Razor-X> cycom: my dad's a mechanical engineer, so, meh
[08:32] <marck> bohol
[08:32] <cycom> Razor-X: I love computers, and I love machines.  Robotics seems logical.
[08:32] <daxxar> I wonder if the Cybernetics study is any fun (:
[08:32] <Razor-X> cycom: boring stuff to me, hoping to major in pure mathematics, and if I feel so inclined as to pursue engineering, electrical engineering
[08:33] <Razor-X> computers are nice as a hobby, but, a hobby is where it'll stay
[08:33] <Razor-X> wow, #ubuntu is a lot quieter than before
[08:33] <ZeZu> what version of xorg does  breezy use ?
[08:34] <jans> hi
[08:34] <HJJHH> HELLOOW
[08:34] <jans> hi
[08:34] <Slaj_R> propagandhi:  Should that command have returned a long list of settings?
[08:34] <HJJHH> UR BOY
[08:34] <katzor> ZeZu 6.8.2-74
[08:35] <nalioth> HJJHH: did you have an ubuntu question?
[08:35] <propagandhi> Slaj_R: no, it should have updated text in config files
[08:35] <xukun> I installed ubuntu on xp laptop on a other partion but I get the massege hal.dll is missing if I try to boot to xp. any idea's?
[08:35] <jans> hi
[08:36] <Slaj_R> propagandhi:  It spat out a bunch of text.
[08:36] <KlinkMeister> I use Ubuntu, but a friend wants Vista, is there a channel about it here?
[08:36] <cycom> Razor-X: it's amazing how fast a hobby can turn into a career.
[08:36] <propagandhi> Slaj_R: private message the text
[08:36] <Razor-X> cycom: meh
[08:36] <Razor-X> cycom: well, I find math way more interesting than computers even, so... :P
[08:36] <cycom> Razor-X: and I bet it was a hobby as well!
[08:37] <nocturn> Hi guys
[08:37] <propagandhi> xukun: http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_haldll_missing.htm
[08:37] <Slaj_R> propagandhi:  hope you don't mind, there's a lot.
[08:37] <Slaj_R> I assume it's a confirmation of the output.
[08:38] <erick> anyone familiar with pxes thin client
[08:38] <propagandhi> Slaj_R: most probably
[08:38] <Hendric> why can't i access my floppy?? "Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume" this is a fresh install breezy.. how can i fix it?
[08:38] <Slaj_R> Then I'm not concerned yet.  I'm gonna try rebooting and see if it worked.  Wish me luck...
[08:38] <Razor-X> cycom: of course it's a hobby
[08:38] <Razor-X> cycom: I pursue higher math than my school's crappy career-based system allows me to take
[08:39] <cycom> Razor-X: which is why it should be your career!
[08:39] <Hendric> any help?
[08:39] <erick> Hendric is your floppy mounted
[08:39] <Hendric> it is in Computer:///
[08:39] <erick> try this mount /mnt/floppy
[08:39] <Hendric> if i double click the icon to access it.. it gives out the error
[08:39] <marck> hi
[08:40] <nocturn> erick: I've used it out of interest a couple of times
[08:40] <B|4ckm0r3> Hi all!I've a little problem with alsa driver, i have an asus a7v8x-x with onboard audio and coaxial output(spdif)!It used to work but since 2 weeks i can't use spdif output!
[08:40] <Hendric> erick, that's wat im doing.. but this floppy is working fine in hoary... i just double click its icon in the Computer:///
[08:40] <benplaut> anyone know how to make OOo2 auto-double space at start of sentence?
[08:40] <erick> try access it through cmd line like this /mnt/floppy
[08:41] <Hendric> erick, i can access it that way.. i just want it to work like normal
[08:41] <erick> what version you are using
[08:41] <malv> i must say, breezy is working great
[08:41] <marck> hi
[08:41] <Hendric> im on breezy.. a fresh install.. it should support floppies out of the box.. like in hoary
[08:42] <cantona_> checking for FT_GlyphSlot_Embolden... no
[08:42] <cantona_>  how can I enable this for libXft2
[08:42] <malv> when I plugged in a flash drive and it just appeared on desktop -- that was divine
[08:42] <marck> hii
[08:42] <marck> jjj
[08:42] <B|4ckm0r3> is there a way to reconfigure alsa driver?
[08:42] <marck> eee
[08:42] <RANGEL> HO U?
[08:43] <nocturn> erick: None at the moment.  I played with it when my systems were running mandrake
[08:43] <B|4ckm0r3> i've noticed that something changed in alsamixer...
[08:43] <marck> hi
[08:43] <marck> bohol
[08:43] <DukGalNamu> i left for a couple of days to find my computer off, any reason why ubuntu would just shut down like that?
[08:43] <liable> powercut?
[08:43] <nalioth> DukGalNamu: check your memory modules
[08:44] <DukGalNamu> nalioth: too late
[08:44] <sammy> wow ubuntu is awesome
[08:44] <RANGEL> HO ?
[08:44] <sammy> first linux ive been able to use for more than 3 hours
[08:44] <DukGalNamu> nalioth: don't i have to do that with UBD or something of the like
[08:44] <DukGalNamu> ?
[08:44] <nalioth> RANGEL: did you have an ubuntu question?
[08:44] <maestro> hi all
[08:44] <nalioth> DukGalNamu: i believe memtest is available at your boot screen
[08:44] <marck> hi
[08:45] <marck> hi
[08:45] <B|4ckm0r3> nalioth: please help me!i've this sound issue and i'm going crazy!
[08:45] <DukGalNamu> nalioth: in either case, my computer doesn't sound all to well
[08:45] <nalioth> marck: did you have an ubuntu question?
[08:45] <RANGEL> NO? WER U?
[08:45] <Slaj_R> Hallelujiah!  By golly, ndiswrapper is working.  I just wanted to drop in and say thanks for the help.
[08:45] <DukGalNamu> nalioth: is it possible that the hard drive has suffered a fatal error or the CPU over heated?
[08:45] <Slaj_R> Now if I could just get my "mute" button working...
[08:46] <RANGEL> NALIOTH
[08:46] <nalioth> DukGalNamu: i'd go memory checking first, then check your internal cooling situation
[08:46] <crimsun> B|4ckm0r3: what sort?
[08:46] <nalioth> RANGEL: may i help you?
[08:46] <DukGalNamu> nalioth: i know it runs hot, my cpu tends to go over 60 C
[08:46] <nalioth> DukGalNamu: heat kills
[08:46] <Trashcan> DukGalNamu: most likely is either memory, overheating, or drivers
[08:46] <RANGEL> yes
[08:46] <kYotiK> how do i schedule a job an app to run every so many minutes?  i gdipc to run every minute so that my dynamic DNS stays fresh on my server.. does anyone know what i need to do?
[08:46] <B|4ckm0r3> crimsun: it's strange but alsa stopped to work correctly!so i can't use my spdif (but analogic output works)
[08:46] <DukGalNamu> Trashcan: drivers or drives?
[08:47] <nalioth> kYotiK: open a term and type "man cron"
[08:47] <Trashcan> drivers
[08:47] <crimsun> B|4ckm0r3: cat /proc/asound/modules
[08:47] <DukGalNamu> and if it was memory then wouldn'
[08:47] <DukGalNamu> t
[08:47] <kYotiK> nalioth: i have tried cron and it says something is locked
[08:47] <DukGalNamu> it have shown up earlier?
[08:47] <nalioth> kYotiK: use sudo
[08:47] <RANGEL> wer u know?
[08:47] <Trashcan> my soundcard driver tends to cause a hard reboot from time to time (maybe once a year) on XP
[08:47] <kYotiK> i did
[08:47] <Trashcan> dunno if it works the same on linux, but I'm sure its possible
[08:47] <DukGalNamu> Trashcan: this isn't XP
[08:47] <nalioth> RANGEL: general chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:48] <B|4ckm0r3> 0 snd_via82xx
[08:48] <B|4ckm0r3> 1 snd_mpu401
[08:48] <DukGalNamu> Trashcan: and XP tends to cause a hard reboot from time to time regardless
[08:48] <RANGEL> how can i find?
[08:48] <nalioth> DukGalNamu: i'd check the memory and cooling situation first
[08:48] <nalioth> RANGEL: type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:48] <nocturn>  /part
[08:48] <nalioth> RANGEL: what language do you speak?
[08:49] <B|4ckm0r3> crimsun: 0 snd_via82xx 1 snd_mpu401
[08:49] <DukGalNamu> nalioth: yeah i suppose i will, but dang.... this sucks, i almost had it back up to 30 days uptime
[08:49] <B|4ckm0r3> that's all
[08:49] <nalioth> DukGalNamu: i've given up on uptime til breezy gets out a month or two
[08:49] <foXgamer> 19th November 1994. <sigh>
[08:49] <crimsun> B|4ckm0r3: paste amixer output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:50] <DukGalNamu> nalioth: all well, my gentoo system is more than stable enough, although the hardware is questionable :P
[08:50] <RANGEL> can u speak visayan?
[08:50] <nalioth> RANGEL: no i can not
[08:50] <ZeZu> i dont know why i waste so much time
[08:50] <ZeZu> i always end up back on windows
[08:50] <ZeZu> what is the point
[08:50] <DukGalNamu> ZeZu: why?
[08:51] <ZeZu> damn ati drivers never work
[08:51] <DukGalNamu> ZeZu: had the same danged problem
[08:51] <ZeZu> i've tried every setting i and many other people can think of
[08:51] <ZeZu> and even editted sc
[08:51] <ZeZu> rebuilt
[08:51] <RANGEL> wer  your residence?
[08:51] <ZeZu> nothing helps
[08:51] <DukGalNamu> ZeZu: best thing you can do is just stop buying from ATI till they offer better linux support
[08:51] <ZeZu> sure, that doesnt help me now tho
[08:52] <nalioth> RANGEL: please join #ubuntu-offtopic, and i'll be happy to talk with you there about my residence
[08:52] <ZeZu> still leaves me having no 3d suport in linux
[08:52] <DukGalNamu> ZeZu: you can get a cheap nvidia card for about 60
[08:52] <B|4ckm0r3> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2985
[08:52] <ZeZu> but why do i want a cheap card in my system when i have a good card ?
[08:52] <RANGEL> can i have ur cel no.?
[08:52] <ZeZu> it makes no sense
[08:52] <ZeZu> i play games and write a lot of opengl stuff
[08:52] <DukGalNamu> ZeZu: it will outproform the ATI on linux
[08:53] <ZeZu> but not on windows, and i have doubts i will ever completely discard win
[08:53] <Hendric> i mounted /dev/fd0 to a directory.. but how can i make it writable????
[08:53] <ZeZu> i need shaders
[08:53] <Madpilot> ZeZu: which ATI card do you own?
[08:53] <ZeZu> 9800 pro
[08:53] <DukGalNamu> ZeZu: i have an mx400, and it is only half as fast as my 9800 pro
[08:53] <RANGEL> wat your language used?
[08:53] <crimsun> B|4ckm0r3: did you change any settings or dist-upgrade from Hoary to Breezy recently?
[08:53] <ZeZu> half is half
[08:53] <DukGalNamu> ZeZu: the mx4000 should be more than capable of blowing the 9800 pro out of the water
[08:53] <DukGalNamu> ZeZu: the mx4000 is about 60 right now
[08:54] <ZeZu> ?
[08:54] <RANGEL> im from bohol.
[08:54] <ZeZu> something about that didn't make sense
[08:54] <RANGEL> u?
[08:54] <DukGalNamu> ZeZu: pay attention to the 0's
[08:54] <Madpilot> ZeZu: I've got a 9600XT, and it runs fine; the fglrx drivers should work for the 9800 as well
[08:54] <B|4ckm0r3> crimsun: yes i dist-upgraded when the release candidate was released and this problem came 1 week later more or less!
[08:54] <nalioth> RANGEL: please join #ubuntu-offtopic.  #ubuntu is for ubuntu help
[08:54] <ZeZu> ah
[08:54] <eben123> yahoo.com
[08:54] <ZeZu> Madpilot, they dont
[08:55] <ZeZu> or it could be an issue w/ my agp
[08:55] <ZeZu> but my agp is fully supported
[08:55] <ZeZu> so i dont know
[08:55] <DukGalNamu> ZeZu: yeah it was hell getting my 9800 pro to work
[08:55] <ZeZu> but you did get it to work ?
[08:55] <DukGalNamu> ZeZu: and when i did i only got 3k FPS
[08:55] <DukGalNamu> ZeZu: somehow
[08:55] <orko> whats the difference between a .deb and a .udeb?
[08:55] <ZeZu> hmm
[08:55] <ZeZu> i have tried patching the source to the driver (and a few other things)
[08:55] <crimsun> B|4ckm0r3: not immediately after you dist-upgraded?
[08:56] <ZeZu> you dont happen to remember what you did to get it working ?
[08:56] <erick> need help. my machine doesn't support boot in cdrom I used boot on floppy and choose the first option that is with cdrom support but still I have no luck and get this error PCI READ CONFIGURATION FAILURE
[08:56] <B|4ckm0r3> crimsun: i'm not shure...!do you think it's related to breezy upgrade?
[08:56] <DukGalNamu> ZeZu: now my mx400 ( four hundred) gets half of that, with half the memory less tahn a quater the price (now) and its older than snot
[08:56] <Trashcan> DukGalNamu : the ati drivers don't run the 9800 pro off the bat?
[08:57] <DukGalNamu> Trashcan: nope
[08:57] <Trashcan> weak
[08:57] <crimsun> B|4ckm0r3: yes
[08:57] <erick> i will install ubuntu on my 486 machine
[08:57] <Trashcan> guess running ubuntu on my pc wouldn't do much better than on this lappy
[08:57] <RANGEL> can ihave your cel no.?
[08:57] <ZeZu> yes on windows it will not have anywhere near the same performance tho
[08:57] <Trashcan> can't find a single working driver that supports the rage mobility
[08:57] <ZeZu> and the 9800 will probably beat the mx4k as well
[08:57] <DukGalNamu> Trashcan: then i popped an old nvidia into a gentoo system and got the drivers working almost immediatly, plus X was working before that
[08:57] <B|4ckm0r3> crimsun: there's something to do?
[08:57] <Trashcan> would be nice to at least have smooth window resizing :\
[08:58] <mcquaid> hello, i'm trying to set up the nvidia bin in my custom kern, i've done it many times without issue but now the nvidia driver is stating i'm trying to compile the driver with one different than the one the kernel was compiled with
[08:58] <ZeZu> i'm not up to date on that stuff but mx are cheaper cards
[08:58] <crimsun> B|4ckm0r3: do this: in a Terminal, sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload && rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe snd-via82xx
[08:58] <ZeZu> use older gpus etc
[08:58] <mcquaid> how do i set the cc environment variable?
[08:58] <crimsun> B|4ckm0r3: then unmute Master, PCM, and the two IEC958 elements
[08:58] <DukGalNamu> ZeZu: true, but the linux drivers are more effective than the windows ones
[08:58] <Hendric> how d i mount a floppy drive which is writable... mount /dev/fdo /mnt/floppy mounts it readonly... pls help
[08:58] <crimsun> B|4ckm0r3: you'll need to adjust the volumes then.
[08:58] <ZeZu> for nvidia cards
[08:58] <crimsun> B|4ckm0r3: let me know if that resolves the issue
[08:58] <nalioth> mcquaid: export cc=/usr/bin/gcc-<version>
[08:59] <mcquaid> ok thx
[08:59] <nalioth> mcquaid: maybe the cc should be CC
[08:59] <DukGalNamu> ZeZu: yes, ati are weak on both in my estimation, they got the hardware, but their drivers suck
[08:59] <mcquaid> nalioth, before i do that how do i see what it's currently set to?
[08:59] <ZeZu> indeed
[08:59] <gefbals> anyone can help me with my Canon LBP-800?
[08:59] <nalioth> mcquaid: type gcc --version
[08:59] <mcquaid> when i do gcc --version i get 4.0
[08:59] <B|4ckm0r3> crimsun: it tells me that i cant remove asound.state:permission denied (i sudoed)
[08:59] <mcquaid> did it use that version to compile the kernel?
[08:59] <Hendric> how d i mount a floppy drive which is writable... mount /dev/fdo /mnt/floppy mounts it readonly... pls help
[09:00] <ZeZu> anyways, i probably wont be getting a new gfx card for a while, so i guess i'll head back to wintendo... i've tried to fix this more than once on like three diff. distros
[09:00] <crimsun> B|4ckm0r3: did you sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state?
[09:00] <ZeZu> i rather like ubuntu too
[09:00] <dustigroove>  mount -w /dev/fdo /mnt/floppy
[09:00] <Madpilot> gefbals: is that a camera, a printer, or what?
[09:00] <DukGalNamu> ZeZu: i put that old GPU into my older system and actually experienced a slow down (the nvidia card) but on my linux system, there is a definate marked proformance.
[09:00] <B|4ckm0r3> crimsun: yes i did it!now i've removed it
[09:00] <DukGalNamu> ZeZu: and because of that i will only buy nvidia
[09:01] <gefbals> Madpilot: a printer...
[09:01] <ZeZu> yea i'm sure my next card will be nv
[09:01] <ZeZu> but that is then
[09:01] <gefbals> Madpilot: i cant print ....
[09:01] <DukGalNamu> ZeZu: and of course i learn all of this AFTER getting a 250 dollar GPU
[09:01] <ZeZu> this is now, no new gfx cards until i get a whole new pc
[09:01] <mcquaid> i was getting this error before, and thought it would go away once i compiled the kernel
[09:01] <Trashcan> same zezu
[09:01] <mcquaid> assuming that they'd both use the new gcc
[09:01] <Madpilot> !tell gefbals about printers
[09:01] <ZeZu> if you dont use it then there is no real point
[09:01] <duncanm> anyone using SCIM on breezy here?
[09:01] <ZeZu> i use mine ;)
[09:01] <gefbals> Hendric: just look this site http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-8039.html
[09:01] <duncanm> it segfaults when i start scim-setup
[09:02] <Trashcan> having a 6800 or x800 is pretty silly considering i still use an AMD 2000+
[09:02] <ZeZu> anyways unless someone has some suggestions i'm going to bed
[09:02] <aftertaf> mcquaid:  it foes that a lot..... thats why if you can use a standard kernel and the nvidia drivers in the restricted modules package for the kernel it is easier.
[09:02] <DukGalNamu> ZeZu: like i said, you get a cheaper nvidia card and it will outproform the windows version of the same card and some of the better ones
[09:02] <aftertaf> mcquaid:  the same binary that you get from nvidia website is in the retricted mods package for the kernel.
[09:02] <duncanm> open("/home/duncan/.scim/chinese/pinyin_table", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[09:02] <duncanm> read(13, "SCIM_Pinyin_Table_BINARY\nVERSION"..., 8191) = 8191
[09:02] <duncanm> --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
[09:02] <Madpilot> gefbals: check the msg ubotu sent you; those two URLs are very useful...
[09:02] <duncanm> hmm
[09:02] <DukGalNamu> ZeZu: but if thats the route you wanna go i understand, i will actually do the same thing
[09:03] <ZeZu> yea i'm not going to replace a 9800 pro w/ something that doesn't have shaders hehe
[09:03] <B|4ckm0r3> crimsun: it doesn't work :
[09:03] <gefbals> Madpilot: k tnx...
[09:03] <ZeZu> anyways cya, thx for the help guys
[09:03] <Trashcan> later
[09:03] <dustigroove> anyone aware of a script (or can whip one up) that will allow you to choose between "play" and "rip" when you insert a cd?
[09:04] <blackwhite> Hi, at work, some sites/pages on the internet are being blocked. How can i overcome this?
[09:04] <blackwhite> <I'm on windows XP by the way>
[09:04] <crimsun> B|4ckm0r3: are you using the correct output? (plug:spdif) ?
[09:04] <crimsun> (or plug:iec958)
[09:05] <DukGalNamu> blackwhite: tell you boss about it
[09:05] <DukGalNamu> *your
[09:05] <Trashcan> hehe
[09:05] <B|4ckm0r3> crimsun: where can i see?
[09:05] <crimsun> B|4ckm0r3: just test it with aplay and a wav file (read the man page)
[09:05] <blackwhite> what's the solution to being auto-blocked to some sites/pages
[09:05] <Trashcan> blackwhite: you can't unless you know what you're doing. they are probably being blocked for a reason
[09:06] <dustigroove> blackwhite: google "web proxy"... try the-cloak.com
[09:06] <blackwhite> Trashcan: i can't overcome it? I don't know wthat to do, but I'm willing to try.
[09:06] <DukGalNamu> blackwhite: hack into your router and disable the parental controls :P
[09:06] <Trashcan> seems like a weird question to ask in a linux channel considering you're on windows, too
[09:06] <blackwhite> dustigroove: i tried the-cloak.com. I get the "This page is being blocked" message even when I use that website.
[09:06] <Trashcan> blackwhite: what page are you trying to visit, exactly?
[09:07] <blackwhite> Trashcan: some pages on google for instance.
[09:07] <tristanmike> blackwhite, don't risk getting fired over a website
[09:07] <Trashcan> no kidding.
[09:07] <cafuego_> duncanm: sloppy coding
[09:07] <blackwhite> tristanmike: i think that the blocking is not specific to some websites. I think they are using some software to just block stuff generally.
[09:08] <duncanm> cafuego_: oh?
[09:08] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[09:08] <duncanm> cafuego_: it used to work okay in hoary
[09:08] <duncanm> cafuego_: and i think the version in breezy is quite old
[09:08] <da_bon_bon> crimsun: the "stupid java" problem was easily solved by man update-alternatives :)
[09:08] <tristanmike> blackwhite, then perhaps you should bring it up with management if it's valid
[09:08] <Trashcan> aye
[09:08] <crimsun> da_bon_bon: excellent.
[09:09] <blackwhite> i want to try to solve it on my own first
[09:09] <cafuego_> duncanm: it's failing to open "pinyin_table" (the fd returned is -1) and then somehow reads from fd #13.
[09:09] <da_bon_bon> why is ubuntu trying to use an open java stack ?
[09:09] <talios> evening crabstic
[09:09] <talios> er crimsun
[09:09] <B|4ckm0r3> crimsun: aplay -D iec958  this worked!we're near the solution ^__^
[09:09] <Trashcan> blackwhite: then hack the box your work line proxies through and shut down the parental controls
[09:10] <blackwhite> Trashcan: is there no way to just replace the proxy info?
[09:10] <tristanmike> blackwhite, I work in management and my advice would be to let them know before you go messing with their computers. Otherwise this sounds like something for #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:10] <Trashcan> the router you are connected to would be connecting through the proxy, so no
[09:11] <Madpilot> gefbals: not good news, but here: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-LBP-800
[09:11] <Trashcan> and yes- this is an offtopic issue
[09:11] <Hendric> damn floppy.. only allows root to right...
[09:12] <LePoulpe303> hi all
[09:12] <gefbals> Madpilot: yah...
[09:13] <mojo> QUESTION: hi i got a weird problem... my DEL key stopped doing anything.  It shows in xev okay, other kbds make no diff, but X does not seem to respond to it (X.Org).  any ideas?
[09:13] <mojo> ALSO: The DEL on Num-pad works fine (when numlock off, of course ;-)
[09:13] <Hendric> how can i make this floppy drive writable by users. not root only??
[09:14] <mojo> Hendric: maybe permissions on the device file in /dev ?  just guessing
[09:14] <gefbals> Madpilot: i already try this but it doesnt work with XP thing....my active directory service for windows 2000 is damage ....
[09:14] <LePoulpe303> i have a lot of refresh problem using builtin vnc clone .... anyone knows how to fix that ?
[09:14] <Hendric> leme try
[09:14] <B|4ckm0r3> crimsun: how can i force ubuntu to use iec958 output?
[09:14] <crimsun> B|4ckm0r3: by default?
[09:15] <B|4ckm0r3> crimsun: yes
[09:15] <da_bon_bon> anyone update from hoary to breezy found that "About Ubuntu" is system menu wont work anymore ?
[09:15] <crimsun> B|4ckm0r3: in System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Audio Sink, choose customsink, then in the box below that type: alsasink device=iec958
[09:15] <da_bon_bon> or is it "my problem" only ?
[09:16] <tristanmike> da_bon_bon, see if yelp is installed?
[09:16] <da_bon_bon> tristanmike: actually, the error is about wrong url
[09:16] <da_bon_bon> Te Uniform Resource Identifier ghelp:about-ubuntu is invalid or does not point to an actual file.
[09:16] <da_bon_bon> *The
[09:16] <orko> i have a haory cd installer mounted as a loop. i've replace a udeb package and now i need to rebuil tthe iso and burn a cd. anyone know what options i need for mkisofs and cdrecord so it actually boots?
[09:17] <tristanmike> da_bon_bon, I use Hoary, and that became an issue, yelp solved it if I remember correctly, sorry
[09:17] <da_bon_bon> orko: why are you trying to install hoary ? wait for breezy.
[09:17] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: it doesnt work for me either
[09:17] <da_bon_bon> nalioth: yay! i aint alone /:)
[09:17] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: i expect it will be fixed within 4 days
[09:18] <da_bon_bon> nalioth: and in the ubuntu faq guide, none of the "exmaple XX.conf" works, right ?
[09:18] <B|4ckm0r3> crimsun: i've done it (and test works) but gnome still doesn't use it!Should i reboot alsa driver (or pc?)
[09:18] <da_bon_bon> nalioth: you mean two days
[09:18] <orko> da_bon_bon: no choice, breezy crashes on boot and I had to replace the aacraid driver
[09:18] <da_bon_bon> oh ok, orko
[09:18] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: i have no clue, i haven't used it
[09:18] <orko> im all set - i just need to mkisofs the installer cd tree, then cdrecord the image. I did it once but the cd wasn't bootable..
[09:18] <crimsun> B|4ckm0r3: you'll probably need to uncheck the Enable Sound Server Startup in System> Preferences> Sound
[09:19] <da_bon_bon> orko: i think cdrecord has option, if you provide the boot image.
[09:19] <da_bon_bon> orko: to get the boot image, use "barts boot image extractor"
[09:19] <bam_> does anyone know how I can change the prompt in console
[09:19] <blackwhite> guys, oh, i just had to update the proxy info from the work's default web browser (IE) to mine (Fx). Thanks everybody!!!
[09:19] <blackwhite>  I love ubuntu.
[09:20] <blackwhite> looking forward to breezy in 2 days.
[09:20] <logikal_> guys
[09:20] <logikal_> How do i create a new folder?
[09:20] <vengeful> mkdir foldername
[09:20] <Trashcan> mkdir
[09:20] <blackwhite> What time exactly does breezy become officially released ?
[09:20] <jipi> hi folks, anyway we can get eclipse into amd64 these two days?
[09:20] <nalioth> logikal_: right click
[09:20] <erick> logicak where do you wnat to create folders
[09:20] <da_bon_bon> blackwhite: /topic :) 13th oct
[09:20] <blackwhite> What time on the 14th?
[09:20] <B|4ckm0r3> crimsun: i've unchecked it!now should i reboot?
[09:20] <blackwhite> da_bon_bon: I know that. I asked for the time.
[09:20] <logikal_> I want to create a folder in
[09:21] <Madpilot> blackwhite: when it's finished on the 13th, I think
[09:21] <logikal_> /usr/local/share/mplayer/
[09:21] <logikal_> I want to create a folder called skin
[09:21] <bam_> mkdir
[09:21] <blackwhite> Madpilot: how do i know when EXACTLY i can start the upgrade process?
[09:21] <Trashcan> sudo mkdir /usr/local/share/mplayer/skin
[09:21] <tristanmike> bam_, this may be what you're looking for http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31247
[09:21] <vengeful> sudo mkdir /usr/local/share/mplayer/skin
[09:21] <da_bon_bon> blackwhite: blackwhite What time on the 14th?
[09:21] <Madpilot> logikal_: sudo mkdir
[09:21] <vengeful> hehe
[09:21] <aftertaf> blackwhite:  it will never be 10000% free of bugs anyway.....
[09:21] <erick> try this mkdir /usr/local/share/mplayer/skin
[09:22] <logikal_> Thank you all 932 of you that helped me
[09:22] <logikal_> lol
[09:22] <vengeful> ;-)
[09:22] <crimsun> B|4ckm0r3: just log out of and back into GNOME
[09:22] <Madpilot> logikal_: easy questions are like raw meat to sharks, you attract a crowd... ;)
[09:23] <logikal_> LOl
[09:23] <aftertaf> lolm
[09:23] <logikal_> Want a non-easy one?
[09:23] <foXgamer> Anyone know if openoffice Math program actually solves problems or is it just to make the forumlae look nice?
[09:23] <vengeful> and its rare i can answer a question
[09:23] <nalioth> vengeful: that will change
[09:23] <B|4ckm0r3> ok tnx
[09:23] <vengeful> sure will...pick up loads of useful info here
[09:24] <logikal_> Ok
[09:24] <logikal_> here's another one
[09:25] <logikal_> when i try to extract the file
[09:25] <logikal_> it says I dont have permission
[09:25] <vengeful> sudo again
[09:26] <vengeful> maybe
[09:26] <logikal_> how can i extract it in the terminal with sudo?
[09:26] <logikal_> Yeah but im doing it by right clicking, extract to
[09:26] <logikal_> how do i extract in terminal?
[09:26] <nalioth> logikal_: you cant extract into system folders
[09:26] <logikal_> well I need to lol.
[09:26] <da_bon_bon> how do i change the "schema" of gnome terminal ? i am used to konsole
[09:27] <nalioth> logikal_: the system is protecting itself
[09:27] <logikal_> Unpack the archive and put the contents in /usr/local/share/mplayer/Skin/ or
[09:27] <logikal_> ~/.mplayer/Skin/. MPlayer will use the skin in the subdirectory named default
[09:27] <logikal_> of /usr/local/share/mplayer/Skin/ or ~/.mplayer/Skin/ unless told otherwise via
[09:27] <logikal_> the '-skin' switch. You should therefore rename your skin subdirectory or make
[09:27] <logikal_> a suitable symbolic link.
[09:27] <Belutz> i got this error: unable to lookup <machinename> via gethostbyname(), what should i do?
[09:27] <logikal_> sorry!
[09:27] <foXgamer> logikal_: If you don't have permission, type sudo -s    You will then be asked for your password and then you will have permission
[09:27] <logikal_> sorry about that, I thought it would be one line.
[09:27] <foXgamer> logikal_: If you don't have permission, type sudo -s    You will then be asked for your password and then you will have permission
[09:27] <nalioth> logikal_: the 'mv' or 'cp' command is your friend
[09:29] <aftertaf> Belutz:  have you changed your PC's name?
[09:29] <aftertaf> or Belutz habe you changed hosts file?
[09:29] <Belutz> aftertaf, no
[09:29] <Belutz> aftertaf, yes i change the hosts file
[09:29] <vengeful> nalioth, any idea with this? http://pastebin.com/389883    trying to help a friend with debian problems
[09:30] <nalioth> vengeful: what are y'all tryin to do?
[09:30] <logikal_> foXgamer,
[09:30] <vengeful> naolith it happened during the night..after that error in log the system is unwriteable
[09:31] <logikal_> How do i extract in the terminal? I dont know how..
[09:31] <B|4ckm0r3> crimsun: it wasn't the "enable sound server at startup"!i've muted the iec958 playback ac97-spsa and now it works perfectly!!
[09:31] <nalioth> vengeful: is the system still up?
[09:31] <vengeful> yes
[09:31] <vengeful> just cant write to it
[09:31] <Blejdfist> hardware problem
[09:31] <Blejdfist> i have that too
[09:31] <foXgamer> what is the extension of the file you are trying to install logikal?
[09:31] <vengeful> yeh i thought hdd on last legs
[09:31] <tristanmike> logikal_, do you mean like a .bz2?
[09:31] <logikal_> Yep..
[09:31] <aftertaf> Belutz:  there you go..... your change is wrong
[09:31] <Blejdfist> i have a cronjob that activate DMA :)
[09:31] <logikal_> one secon
[09:31] <logikal_> d
[09:31] <Blejdfist> hdparm -d1 /dev/???
[09:31] <aftertaf> Belutz:  change it back...... what did you change/remove?
[09:32] <logikal_> tar:/home/logikal/standard-1.9.tar.bz2/
[09:32] <brownie17> who knows anything about gnutella? do limewire and Amule use the same network? if so, then why does aMule turn up about<PHONE_NUMBER>0 times more sources and results?
[09:32] <vengeful> hdparm -d1 /dev/???   , so i should try that?
[09:32] <Blejdfist> you should make a backup and replace the disk
[09:32] <Belutz> aftertaf, i just add another ip and name into a new line, i'll try to delete it
[09:32] <Blejdfist> vengeful: replace ??? with the actual device
[09:32] <vengeful> eh yeh got that bit :-O
[09:32] <Blejdfist> it will activate DMA again
[09:32] <vengeful> hehe
[09:32] <tristanmike> logikal_, tar xvjf standard-1.9.tar.bz2
[09:32] <nalioth> vengeful: if you can't write to the HD, the system will fail shortly
[09:32] <logikal_> hunh?
[09:33] <foXgamer> then you will need <tar -xjvf standard-1.0.tar.bz2> (without the <>). You need to be in the right dir, but that should work
[09:33] <tristanmike> logikal_, the "tar" is the decompressor
[09:33] <Belutz> aftertaf, still get the same error
[09:33] <logikal_> oh
[09:33] <logikal_> roger that!
[09:33] <logikal_> ok
[09:33] <tristanmike> logikal_, the "j" is for .bz2
[09:33] <logikal_> all that did was show me a list of the contents
[09:34] <brownie17> aftertaf, why does aMule turn up heaps more results than limewire?
[09:34] <tristanmike> logikal_, the "v" was for verbose, to tell you what it extracted
[09:35] <nalioth> brownie17: limewire sucks?
[09:35] <tristanmike> logikal_, "man tar" for more info, but it should be extracted
[09:35] <foXgamer> logikal_: Try using the letters zxvf instead
[09:35] <dougsko> brownie17: cause its all crap, torrents are they only way to go now if want anything reliable
[09:35] <logikal_> where did it extract to
[09:35] <tristanmike> logikal_, working directory
[09:36] <logikal_> ?
[09:36] <tristanmike> logikal_, if it didn't do it, try what foXgamer said
[09:36] <brownie17> nalioth, unfortunately for me i cannot open ports, so limewire is the only one i can use, because it is the only one with firewall detection i have found. do you know any others?
[09:36] <aftertaf> nalioth:  could be that yeah :)
[09:36] <dougsko> brownie17: u dont need to open ports to us torrents
[09:36] <dougsko> *use
[09:36] <nalioth> brownie17: find the port limewire uses and use another client on that port
[09:37] <brownie17> dougsko, you sure? i once tried to use bittorrent with windows and it didn't work.
[09:37] <fek> morning
[09:37] <foXgamer> morning fek
[09:37] <logikal_> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[09:37] <brownie17> nalioth, you think that will work? ok
[09:37] <logikal_> Gave me error msg when using the letters zxvf
[09:37] <dougsko> brownie17: yeah, its just like anything else, it works better if people can connect to u, but if not, it still works
[09:37] <nalioth> logikal_: xvzf
[09:37] <aftertaf> logikal_:  try xvjf
[09:37] <nalioth> logikal_: the order is important
[09:38] <aftertaf> oh ok... yeah.
[09:38] <dougsko> get azareus, its java, so its a little slow to load, but it can accept rss feeds which is sweet
[09:38] <brownie17> nalioth, dougsko, do you guys know any torrent clients that use uPnP?
[09:39] <nalioth> brownie17: idk what uPnP is
[09:39] <logikal_> still the same error when using xvzf
[09:39] <dougsko> i think they all do ( at least can)
[09:39] <nalioth> logikal_: see aftertaf's suggestion
[09:39] <foXgamer> logikal_: Try here -> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=259143 which explains how to unpack tar's. That should help
[09:39] <tristanmike> logikal_, you are in the directory where the file is, right?
[09:39] <brownie17> nalioth, it stands for universal plug and play.
[09:39] <nalioth> brownie17: i dont use windows
[09:40] <logikal_> tar: standard/exit.png: Cannot open: File exists
[09:40] <logikal_> it said that for all of them
[09:40] <tristanmike> logikal_, "ls"
[09:40] <brownie17> nalioth, it is not a windows thing, it is a router thing
[09:40] <nalioth> brownie17: then i really dont know
[09:40] <tristanmike> logikal_, you should have a folder of the same name as the compressed file
[09:40] <brownie17> nalioth, ok, thanks
[09:40] <dougsko> brownie17: just try azareus, or maybe bittornado, or bitcomet, it really doesnt matter, once you get away from emule and Co., you'll never go back
[09:41] <logikal_> yes mike
[09:41] <logikal_> I've extracted it
[09:41] <tristanmike> it worked the first time
[09:41] <logikal_> I need to get it in /usr/local/share/mplayer/skin
[09:41] <logikal_> which the problem is
[09:42] <brownie17> dougsko, is there a .deb package for azareus? is it supposed to be in the repos?
[09:42] <logikal_> I know how to extract
[09:42] <dougsko> brownie17: i dont know, hold on
[09:42] <tristanmike> logikal_, perhaps you should move it to the mplayer skin folder in your home directory
[09:42] <brownie17> dougsko, know any good torrent sites?
[09:42] <dougsko> yes!
[09:42] <Calav3ra> heyhey
[09:42] <El_Che> brownie17: it's just an java app, you can download it upstream and will work after untarring the package (no install needed)
[09:42] <brownie17> El_Che, ok
[09:43] <logikal_> there is no mplayer folder in my home directory?
[09:43] <dougsko> torrentspy.com and torrentreactor.net are probly the only 2 sites youll ever need
[09:43] <vengeful> hehe machine cant even reboot
[09:43] <Calav3ra> i have problems with starting ubuntu 5.04 from a external firewire device....
[09:43] <N6REJ> go
[09:43] <brownie17> dougsko, it is supposed to be in the repos then?
[09:43] <foXgamer> logikal_: In the menu for the file browser, make sure you have show hidden files selected. It will begin with a period (.)
[09:43] <tristanmike> logikal_, it may be hidden, "ls -a"
[09:43] <dougsko> just google it
[09:43] <brownie17> nalioth, i am getting an error when opening synaptic
[09:43] <N6REJ> g'morning everyone
[09:43] <brownie17> nalioth, #flood?
[09:43] <dougsko> you cant miss...
[09:43] <logikal_> Oh wait
[09:43] <logikal_> there is
[09:44] <logikal_> nevermind
[09:44] <tristanmike> logikal_, hidden files are designated with a "./"
[09:44] <intelikey> i can't believe i actually installed ub again.   "is there a phyc**...in the house?"   </troll>
[09:44] <Sherman> 2 days :D
[09:44] <Jaivaz> I just rebooted after the upgrade to Breezy and I have a problem with my moniter. The screen loads completely except that it's at least one inch to the left.. so the far right is literally completely black.
[09:44] <foXgamer> yeah. took me ages to realise that when I started using linux! hehe
[09:44] <Calav3ra> can anyone help a little bit? it seems that my harddisk isnt recognized at bootup
[09:44] <aftertaf> brownie17:  running as root? have a 2nd apt process running? borked your repos?
[09:44] <foXgamer> Jaivaz: It sounds like you need to change the settings on the monitor rather than on the system. HAve you tried?
[09:45] <logikal_> ok
[09:45] <logikal_> but when i run
[09:45] <Sherman> its most likely a different refresh rate
[09:45] <logikal_> gmplayer
[09:45] <intelikey> Calav3ra what error ?
[09:45] <dougsko> Jaivaz: is yr refresh rate correct?
[09:45] <logikal_> it doesn't work..
[09:45] <Calav3ra> two: grub error 21
[09:45] <brownie17> aftertaf, i pasted the erro in root, no other ones running, running as root, "borked"?
[09:45] <Calav3ra> every second time or more  ....often, when i bootup
[09:45] <Jaivaz> .. HAhahaha
[09:46] <aftertaf> borked is a polite way of saying f***ed
[09:46] <Calav3ra> installation works fine on my samsung x20 ... i read that it should work very good
[09:46] <Jaivaz> Yes, all I needed to do was an auto-adjustment on my moniter
[09:46] <dougsko> Jaivaz: did u fix it?
[09:46] <tristanmike> logikal_, what doesn't work, the skins?
[09:46] <Jaivaz> Yes.
[09:46] <N6REJ> I have a question about setting up postfix.  In the wiki it mentions how to :  "The How-to is a step by step process in which teaches the user here to pull together a smtp-auth to the users server.  All applications and dependencies have been recommended in order to go forth with this process."  My question is, is this the best way to setup postfix to help keep it from being hijacked,...
[09:46] <dougsko> excelent
[09:46] <N6REJ> ...spam'd, etc.  &/Or is this already done when you first install postfix.  My server is nat'd so I'm not sure what I should do.
[09:46] <foXgamer> logikal_: Have you moved the skins to the appropriate directory? You may need to reboot to enable it to pick them up
[09:46] <logikal_> The GUI mplayer all together
[09:46] <logikal_> well look here
[09:46] <logikal_> http://pastebin.com/389891
[09:46] <logikal_> that's the instructions
[09:46] <foXgamer> Jaivaz: I has the same problem yesterday!
[09:47] <logikal_> All we did was put the skins in /home/logikal/mplayer***/skin/
[09:47] <tristanmike> logikal_, then skins are pretty pointless at this stage, :P
[09:47] <logikal_> well it says
[09:47] <dougsko> man, you guys aren't on the east coast, are you?
[09:47] <N6REJ> as it stands right now I can send mail fro the server but not recieve it.
[09:47] <tristanmike> I am
[09:47] <logikal_> I just need to get GUI mplayer working..
[09:47] <Sherman> mplayer ubuntu howto: http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt
[09:48] <Sherman> works everytime for me
[09:48] <foXgamer> I'm on the west coast!
[09:48] <dougsko> hard core dude, im gonna be so fucked for class tomarrow, but damn im so sick of that shit
[09:48] <tristanmike> logikal_, ok, you did what it says
[09:48] <kemik> Sherman: mplayer is available thru apt
[09:48] <Sherman> I know kemik
[09:48] <logikal_> Thank you sherman.
[09:49] <dougsko> im ready to just burn the whole f'er down
[09:49] <foXgamer> dougsko: That's the west coast of the uk :D
[09:49] <intelikey> Calav3ra google does turn up a blank on that error doesn't it.....
[09:49] <dougsko> lol
[09:49] <Jaivaz> That's odd. My XMMS script for Xchat now comes up with " " instead of the information
[09:49] <nalioth> gentlemen, please watch your language
[09:49] <N6REJ> aftertaf: you awake?
[09:49] <ormandj> i'm impressed, breezy has turned into a pretty good release so far
[09:49] <Calav3ra> lol, i foind info, wait a sec
[09:49] <brownie17> cya everyone
[09:49] <ormandj> very few lil niggly bugs left
[09:49] <Sherman> but this howto installs gcc etc, mplayer, gmplayer, and thew codecs and xmms and a few internet radio stations
[09:50] <dougsko> sorry, but i figured it's 3:49am, and there's no kids or women for that matter here
[09:50] <kemik> Sherman:  apt-get install build-essential
[09:50] <Madpilot> Sherman: why do you need all those players? all you need is one or two that work for you...
[09:50] <N6REJ> nalioth: morning
[09:50] <nalioth> N6REJ: howdy
[09:50] <Madpilot> dougsko: it's not 0350 everywhere, remember...
[09:50] <nalioth> dougsko: this is a world wide channel
[09:50] <Sherman> lol kemik, I know
[09:50] <N6REJ> dougsko: no, but some of us don't particularly like that kind of behavior
[09:50] <intelikey> yes ?
[09:50] <tristanmike> dougsko, assuming your in North America, it's the middle of the afternoon on the other side of the world
[09:50] <Sherman> and kemik, it just works :P
[09:51] <dougsko> im sorry i said, im sorry
[09:51] <foXgamer> Jaivaz: I think you may have to re-write your script. I don't know much about scripts (enough to put on the back of a postage stamp with room left) but I have the same problems with funny characters in xchat
[09:51] <tristanmike> dougsko, :P
[09:51] <N6REJ> nalioth: you familiar with setting postfix up?
[09:51] <Sherman> Madpilot, Im just installing mplayer with the gui and xmms
[09:51] <nalioth> N6REJ: never heard of it
[09:51] <kemik> Sherman:  i know that stuff works, but it's really not neccessary to compile mplayer by yourself ;)
[09:51] <intelikey> 8-{
[09:51] <N6REJ> nalioth: Am I the only guy using ubuntu for a server :P
[09:51] <nalioth> N6REJ: dunno
[09:51] <aftertaf> n6mod:  lol yeah, i am :)
[09:51] <vengeful> could be some other crazy people about hehe
[09:52] <crimsun> N6REJ: of course not. Ubuntu's Web servers run...(guess what?)
[09:52] <nalioth> vengeful: did you get that box sorted?
[09:52] <marck> hi
[09:52] <N6REJ> aftertaf: morning.... I need some help getting postfix running properly
[09:52] <vengeful> i think my friend is crying atm
[09:52] <N6REJ> crimsun: well, thats a good assumption
[09:52] <intelikey> Calav3ra no  i got 20  sorry.
[09:52] <ormandj> N6REJ, i've got a 2800 server cluster i'm building using ubuntu
[09:52] <vengeful> so when i get news il let you know hehe
[09:52] <ormandj> does that count?
[09:53] <crimsun> N6REJ: not precisely an assumption, heh.
[09:53] <Sherman> kemik, I learnt how to compile software by doing it. That mplayer howto was the first time that everything worked from the word go. I know mplayer and the build essentials can be installed via mplayer, but how does one learn his way around a linux distro when its as easy as that. I *do* use apt all the time, but for mplayer, I compile it... Ive had more luck with that way anyway
[09:53] <Sherman> I see your point tho kemik
[09:53] <ormandj> and hi crimsun :)
[09:53] <dougsko> however, i do purpose a toast. anyone who is of legal age, get yourself a drink, and lets have a worldwide drink together in honor of this fine OS. what do you guys say?
[09:53] <N6REJ> ormandj: well, I'm having problems getting postfix running properly.
[09:53] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  never setup a linux server yet, unfortunately.....
[09:53] <ormandj> N6REJ, what problem?
[09:53] <ormandj> dougsko, i'm all for that
[09:53] <Sherman> bah EECore
[09:54] <N6REJ> ormandj: it will send mail via the mail command to my mailbox ON the server.  And will recieve mails from the server.... And from the world.  But I can't pull my mail OFF the server.
[09:54] <dougsko> cool, ill be back in a sec, gotta pour...
[09:54] <ormandj> N6REJ, that's because postfix doesn't do that
[09:54] <foXgamer> bottoms up all!
[09:54] <ormandj> N6REJ, install courier imap/pop3
[09:54] <ormandj> foXgamer, cheers, vodka here too
[09:54] <vengeful> abit early for me atm
[09:54] <vengeful> i have a hot chocolate tho
[09:55] <foXgamer> bit early here too vengeful - not even 9am yet!
[09:55] <foXgamer> lol
[09:55] <N6REJ> ormandj: apt-get install courier imap/pop3?
[09:55] <ormandj> N6REJ, no, find out the package names, and install them
[09:55] <Sherman> ...
[09:55] <dougsko> haha thats ok, its the thought that counts
[09:55] <ormandj> there are a few, for imap, pop3, etc
[09:55] <Calav3ra> ianyone having a samsung x20 in here???
[09:55] <ormandj> here, let me find you a howto :)
[09:55] <N6REJ> ormandj: recommendations?
[09:55] <dougsko> i just hope im not the only one with a real shot of whiskey in front of him
[09:55] <foXgamer> I should be doing mathematical theories but I can't be bothered
[09:56] <ormandj> http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/   <-- ignore all the mysql stuff, etc
[09:56] <Sherman> Calav3ra, I am 'having' a KFC meal here!!!
[09:56] <ormandj> but it shows the packages
[09:56] <ormandj> recommendation is use google.com :P
[09:56] <N6REJ> Sherman: SUSH! I went to bed without supper yesterday cause I had been up for 2 days
[09:56] <ormandj> (Same as i did)
[09:56] <nalioth> dougsko: sorry, ive got a bottle in front of me
[09:56] <N6REJ> ormandj: cc
[09:56] <Sherman> :/ damn!
[09:56] <dougsko> haha nice
[09:56] <ormandj> ill brb, grabbing vodka, wine, and some smokes
[09:56] <dougsko> nice
[09:57] <Sherman> nice combo
[09:57] <ormandj> make that cigar
[09:57] <ormandj> :P
[09:57] <N6REJ> ormandj: dumb questions... is it recommended to set postfix up for smtp-auth & TLS?
[09:57] <Sherman> god I cannot wait 2 days
[09:57] <ormandj> yes N6REJ, most def. but you don't need a mysql backend for authentication
[09:57] <ormandj> you'll want to use the local user accounts most likely
[09:57] <ormandj> virtual delivery is a bit out of the league of a single server
[09:57] <ormandj> unless you need to host multiple domains
[09:58] <ormandj> in which case, go for it
[09:58] <ormandj> anyways let me brb :P
[09:58] <N6REJ> ormandj: k
[09:58] <cafuego_> N6REJ: If that's what you want, yes it's recommended.
[09:58] <foXgamer> so if I already have breezy and been updating every day, should I still get the stable version when it's out in 2 days?
[09:58] <Sherman> ormandj!! ormandj !!! BAH!
[09:58] <cafuego_> foXgamer: No, just run a dist-upgrade in 2 days and you'll be right.
[09:58] <dougsko> foXgamer: itll be the exact same thing if u just keep updated
[09:59] <foXgamer> cool. thanks guys. My phone company thinks I'm an international company with all the downloading I've done over the past few months!
[09:59] <aftertaf> lol foXgamer
[09:59] <N6REJ> cafuego_: I'm not sure what I want.  I DON"T want to be hijacked, spammed, I am nat'd but still..... I'm used to Engarde which is secure as heck!   I hate linux! :(:(:(
[10:01] <Sherman> logikal_, ouch
[10:01] <nalioth> logikal_: install xlibs-dev and xlibs-static-dev
[10:01] <aleitner> anybody else sees a "Reloading postfix configuration failed" message during boot up after a hoary->breezy upgrade ?
[10:01] <aftertaf> logikal_:  and take 5......;)
[10:01] <dockane> hi all
[10:01] <N6REJ> cafuego_: I'm setting up a server that will have 3 main functions.... 1) personal server serving sites for each kid, 1 e-store site, 1) intranet site for building/testing web apps the daily usage like calendars and such.
[10:01] <foXgamer> logikal_: Are you using gnome? What do you want the player for?
[10:01] <Sherman> you *are* doing exactly what that howto is telling you to do?
[10:01] <airxdres> they organized UbuntuParty for the liberation of breezy ?
[10:02] <logikal_> KDE
[10:02] <Sherman> oh
[10:02] <logikal_> Becuase totem is a total pos
[10:02] <airxdres> hi foXgamer
[10:02] <logikal_> yes
[10:02] <logikal_> I am doing EXACTLY
[10:02] <nalioth> foXgamer: imho, mplayer could use a good recompile
[10:02] <logikal_> except for the essential package is newer im using.
[10:02] <airxdres> Becuase totem is a total pos <- jaja se te salio el espaol
[10:02] <airxdres> xD
[10:02] <cafuego_> N6REJ: If you're feeling adventurous, try ZCS
[10:02] <foXgamer> you're right nalioth. It's on my system collecting dust.
[10:02] <N6REJ> dougsko: I'm using sftp & mod_dav, though I haven't turned on the dav yet because I don't understand the full implications of it.
[10:02] <foXgamer> hehe
[10:02] <cafuego_> N6REJ: it's not packaged up though.
[10:02] <dougsko> airxdres: newer isnt always better...
[10:03] <Jeromee> will ubuntu ever be releasing versions for sparcs?
[10:03] <cafuego_> Jeromee: doubtful.
[10:03] <airxdres> dougsko, yeah ;)
[10:03] <dougsko> N6REJ: thats cool, i only know that dav is pretty bad in winblows (i know 1st hand :) )
[10:03] <N6REJ> cafuego_: I'll read up on that, its in freshmeat
[10:03] <Burgundavia> Jeromee, it already does, unofficiallly
[10:03] <aleitner> anybody knows what is wrong if i see the message "reloading postfix configuratio failed" during bootup (besides the obvious :)?
[10:03] <Burgundavia> Jeromee, ports.ubuntu.com
[10:04] <Jeromee> hmm
[10:04] <logikal_> nalioth, I have those packages.
[10:04] <Jeromee> is it supported?
[10:04] <Meister> hi there...
[10:04] <dougsko> i have no idea though about linux to be honest
[10:04] <Burgundavia> Jeromee, not in terms of security
[10:04] <airxdres> In Chile we will organize ubuntuparty day 13
[10:04] <cafuego_> N6REJ: I run postfox+courier with mysql backend myself. But then, I host over 100 mail domains.
[10:04] <N6REJ> dougsko: what does that mean?  I always used proftpd before and was told not to so......
[10:04] <cafuego_> Jeromee: Would you want to use it as a desktop box?
[10:04] <airxdres> much beer and conversation
[10:04] <Jeromee> not likely
[10:05] <Jeromee> just as a toy server, its only 110mhz
[10:05] <cafuego_> Jeromee: if it's to be a server, just use Debian.
[10:05] <N6REJ> cafuego_: I don't PLAN on doing more but who the heck knows.... I've gotta generate SOME kind of extra income.
[10:05] <Jeromee> I suppose
[10:05] <dougsko> N6REJ: go to bugtraq or maybe securityfocus and look it up. one search should tell you if its safe or not
[10:05] <Jeromee> I was hoping to use ubuntu, it seems to be more properly supported, yanno?
[10:05] <Meister_Lampe> does anyone know, why the "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main" doesnt work anymore?
[10:05] <cafuego_> Jeromee: stable, tested, stable, stable...
[10:05] <dockane> i am looking for a command line tool which scales images down: my choice is imagemagick. no i am looking for a way to convert tif images of  different sizes (mostly scanned) down to jpgs but with -resize or -geometry. instead i would like to give a max value of filesize, i.e. 800 kb and let imagemick choose the right options . any idea ?
[10:05] <foXgamer> aleitner: I don't know about postfix but I would scrutinise your startup files
[10:05] <aftertaf> airxdres:  nice :)
[10:05] <cafuego_> Jeromee: Did I mention stability yet? ;-)
[10:06] <Sherman> Meister_Lampe, its because they have stopped those servers
[10:06] <aftertaf> Meister_Lampe:
[10:06] <aftertaf> oops sorry ...
[10:06] <Sherman> hehe
[10:06] <dougsko> nothing it 100% safe, you can only be maybe 90% at the very best
[10:06] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[10:06] <Meister_Lampe> thanks, but where can i get the w32codecs for example, instead?
[10:06] <Jaivaz> Eep, Azureus is running very slowly
[10:06] <aleitner> foXgamer: hmm, thanks for the hint. i don't think i am too good at that. besides.
[10:06] <Jaivaz> Well, it's running ok but it's downloading slowly... very slowly.
[10:06] <dougsko> so minimizing services open to the web is the single best thing you can do
[10:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Meister_Lampe about w32codecs
[10:06] <N6REJ> dougsko: ok.  I haven't even decided 100% on a html editor.  I've got NetObjects Fusion 7.0, GoLive 6.0, & Frontpage 2003.
[10:06] <airxdres> somebody uses muine ?
[10:07] <Sherman> Meister_Lampe, www.mplayerhq.hu
[10:07] <da_bon_bon> it takes a LOT of time while i use apt to install anything -- it stops for a lot of time at "Reading database" any ideas ?
[10:07] <Madpilot> airxdres: I do, yes
[10:07] <da_bon_bon> Meister_Lampe: marillat
[10:07] <omeg> Hey guys I'm pretty sure you've already seen this or millions of people have already pasted this link, but: http://cgi.ebay.ca/UBUNTU-Linux-Windows-Replacement-Super-Cool-OS_W0QQitemZ5812690227QQcategoryZ11227QQcmdZViewItem
[10:07] <intelikey> what' muine ?
[10:07] <N6REJ> dougsko: LOTS OF decisions right now.... I'm just taking it one little issue at a time so I don't get overwhelmed as I have bi-polar disorder.
[10:07] <foXgamer> aleitner: hehe. That's my limits at the mo - keep nagging others. dougsko is quite knowledgable ;)
[10:07] <Sherman> da_bon_bon, marillat dont work
[10:07] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: please dont recommend nerim or marillat
[10:07] <Madpilot> intelikey: an album player, similar to Rythymbox
[10:07] <da_bon_bon> why ?
[10:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell da_bon_bon about w32codecs
[10:07] <da_bon_bon> i use the package from marillat
[10:07] <Sherman> the servers aint up
[10:07] <airxdres> Madpilot, it requests plug you know to me as it is ?
[10:07] <intelikey> ah i use "play"
[10:07] <aleitner> foXgamer: (;
[10:07] <foXgamer> N6REJ: hey! I'm a sufferer too!
[10:08] <dougsko> N6REJ: haha its cool. dont worry too much about what you design yr page with, id say just use whats most comfortable and easy for ya
[10:08] <aftertaf> hi onkarshinde :)
[10:08] <Madpilot> airxdres: sorry, I didn't understand your question at all...
[10:08] <aftertaf> hows things where you are man? onkarshinde
[10:08] <onkarshinde> aftertaf: hi
[10:08] <airxdres> ok
[10:08] <da_bon_bon> but why doesnt marillat not work ?
[10:08] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: debian repositories will break ubuntu
[10:08] <onkarshinde> aftertaf: I didn't know you were waiting for me so eagerly
[10:08] <da_bon_bon> shit!
[10:09] <N6REJ> foXgamer: so you understand... I had to just shutdown yesterday @ 1600.  Couldn't hang anymore.... Plus I have oxygen deprevation so that don't help either.... I swear I've lost tons of brain cells.... I can't remember 1/10th of what I used to know.
[10:09] <Sherman> da_bon_bon, they dont work...
[10:09] <da_bon_bon> what am i to do now ?
[10:09] <N6REJ> foXgamer: all this stuff used to be easy for me.
[10:09] <logikal_> I hate everything :(
[10:09] <dougsko> so you guys ready to do a shot or what?
[10:09] <aftertaf> hehe.... onkarshinde with what happened sort of in your neck of the woods.......
[10:09] <Sherman> da_bon_bon, marillat seems to be down or the repos dont exist etc
[10:09] <da_bon_bon> Sherman, nalioth : but all videos and music is playing
[10:09] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: what are you doing?
[10:09] <dougsko> lol, im gettin thirsty
[10:09] <aftertaf> !beer
[10:09] <ubotu> beer is, like, totally, Stop! Have a beer......  Mine's a John Smith's
[10:09] <Sherman> da_bon_bon, well you got a package that worked, when the repos were up
[10:09] <da_bon_bon> nalioth: i installed w32codecs from marilat. didnt add the repo, just installed the pacakge
[10:09] <Sherman> but they arnt any more
[10:09] <N6REJ> dougsko: NOPE, let me go get my can o pepsi!, I'll have a tiny bit of rum with it since I haven't taken my meds yet LOL
[10:09] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: then you rock
[10:10] <Sherman> heh
[10:10] <foXgamer> N6REJ: Yes, I do understand. I only got it recognised a few months ago, so I am still learning about it
[10:10] <dougsko> ok dude, just let me know
[10:10] <onkarshinde> is there anything rquivalent to rpmbuild in for debian packages/
[10:10] <ormandj> back now
[10:10] <dougsko> logikal_: dont you worry man, you stick around here, and youll be a guru before you know it
[10:10] <aftertaf> lol dougsko
[10:10] <foXgamer> hehe! too true!
[10:10] <da_bon_bon> nalioth: uh.. i am not familiar with english slang :( will that break my sys or no ?
[10:10] <intelikey> deb-rpm
[10:10] <ormandj> alien!
[10:10] <ormandj> :P
[10:11] <aftertaf> lol
[10:11] <foXgamer> I've picked up more today than the past month on my own!
[10:11] <cafuego_> foXgamer: Woo! How many chicks did you pick up today?
[10:11] <N6REJ> foXgamer: take your time, take your meds, educate your family!!!    I've only just been put on prozac. My friends have been on higher doses for just losing a job!
[10:12] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: if you install some debian packages you will have problems
[10:12] <logikal_> I'm out of beer, mplayer wont work, what else could go wrong?
[10:12] <foXgamer> Sherman: Who says me getting the ladies makes me lucky? lol
[10:12] <onkarshinde> ormandj: if not for tools, how does one normally make a deb package?
[10:13] <da_bon_bon> nalioth: no, no debian repos. just that one package from marillat
[10:13] <ormandj> onkarshinde, http://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+make+a+deb&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[10:13] <cafuego_> logikal_: earthquake
[10:13] <nalioth> da_bon_bon: debian SOURCE repositories are ok in your sources.list
[10:13] <ormandj> amazing how helpful google is: "how to make a deb"
[10:13] <Sherman> foXgamer, I do
[10:13] <Sherman> so meh
[10:13] <foXgamer> rofl
[10:13] <cafuego_> Osamas machine seems to work, he tested it on Pakistan. Next target: LA.
[10:13] <N6REJ> ormandj: LOL, <---- 6 kids,  ( 1st marriage = 22yr, 18yr ( boys ), 2nd ( 13yr, 11yr, 8yr boys & 10yr daughter )
[10:13] <ormandj> i don't get geeks who didn't learn to use google :)
[10:13] <intelikey> logikal_ your installation of '*' could trash your hd.
[10:13] <logikal_> it probably will
[10:13] <ormandj> N6REJ, rofl, you're far gone, it's too late now, poor guy :P
[10:13] <intelikey> more likely than earthquake.....
[10:14] <da_bon_bon> nalioth: no debian repos at all :)
[10:14] <dougsko> yeah its like i dont know howd id know anything without google and kickass irc people
[10:14] <onkarshinde> Give me one advice. I am on hoary. dist-upgrade or clean install?
[10:14] <ormandj> "the poor man who couldnt keep it in his pants lays here, he died in debt, and with a hardon from internet porn"
[10:14] <N6REJ> foXgamer: get a diff doc.  I'm on a ton of meds, 3 major ones, but what they do... is give you the split second to be able to make a sane decision.... Also ask for guidance from above... but thats a different conversation.
[10:14] <N6REJ> LOL @ ormandj
[10:15] <dougsko> for the least headaches, my gut says: go clean
[10:15] <ormandj> <-- almost fell into the trap, but managed to escape by breaking off his engagement :P
[10:15] <da_bon_bon> what was the method to disable ipv6 in hoary ?
[10:15] <foXgamer> N6REJ: Yeah. Thanks. It's all in hand luckily. Still can't get motivated to do this bl**dy theory though! lol
[10:15] <foXgamer> ^any offers?
[10:15] <ormandj> for?
[10:15] <Sherman> no
[10:15] <Sherman> no
[10:15] <Sherman> no
[10:16] <foXgamer> hehe
[10:16] <dougsko> foXgamer: what r u working on?
[10:16] <topyli> onkarshinde: just upgrade
[10:16] <foXgamer> number theory - chance and chaos :D
[10:16] <ormandj> onkarshinde, dist-upgrade, it works great
[10:16] <dougsko> i was ready to pay someone through paypal to do my emag homework
[10:16] <ormandj> foXgamer, i'm good with number theory :)
[10:16] <da_bon_bon> how do i change / use different usplash themes ?
[10:16] <N6REJ> lol
[10:16] <logikal_> ill do homework for money
[10:17] <ormandj> foXgamer, and cryptography would be the reason i am ;p
[10:17] <N6REJ> now I KNOW I'm a dinosaur
[10:17] <logikal_> as long as it doesnt have to do with making linux work, thats a subject i suck at
[10:17] <N6REJ> <----- /nick grandpa hall
[10:17] <ormandj> <-- loves qbit cryptography lala