[22:52] <tasos> jahnkeanate1: go to www.w3schools.com look under CSS there's a section mentioning how to use a favicon
[22:52] <jahnkeanate1> k
[22:52] <Pici> jahnkeanate1: I think you just put it in the root of your domain, otherwise, #apache might help better.
[22:52] <Odd-rationale> patwotrik: What question, again?
[22:52] <nouveau> russia have great history, it's a great country ! xbow It was some pbs but I heard that it's geting better now
[22:53] <webpirate> http://www.joeygregorash.ca/ubuntu2.jpg <<---anyone have any ideas on this problem? the same xorg.conf works fine on 6.10
[22:53] <patwotrik> Odd-rationale, how to find out the ip in console
[22:53] <tasos> jahnkeanate1: Actually, sorry, not CSS. The XHTML section. I believe it's under the tag <link> or something like that
[22:53] <scguy318> RandomUsr: the fs-driver.org or w/e is the only one that I know of
[22:53] <jahnkeanate1> no # apache is not very populated
[22:53] <scguy318> RamdomUsr: i dont believe people are that eager to use a Linux fs on Windows :P
[22:53] <Odd-rationale> patwotrik: I'm sorry, I don't know. :(
[22:53] <webpirate> i think I will have to just go back to 6.10
[22:53] <RandomUsr> scguy318, thank you I´ll check those out
[22:53] <patwotrik> Odd-rationale, thanks anyway
[22:53] <ConstyXIV> is there an extension for firefox that lets you search from the address bar like in konqui and opera (g foobar)?
[22:53] <tasos> Anybody know how to get the microphone to work in ubuntu?
[22:54] <shinichizio> scguy318: Right. Apt-get works perfectly now. Thanks?
[22:54] <juan> ConstyXIV: its already there just not well known
[22:54] <tasos> ConstyXIV: actually, if you just type something in firefox, it will search it in google
[22:54] <webpirate> tasos>> run this program and check to make sure that the mic is selected gnome-volume-control
[22:54] <tasos> ConstyXIV: if it's without the www etc
[22:54] <webpirate> SCGUY918>> check out this picture http://www.joeygregorash.ca/ubuntu2.jpg
[22:54] <patwotrik> anyone who knows how to check the ipadress in console mode?
[22:54] <ConstyXIV> tasos: i want to be able to go to different engines as well (wikipedia, youtube, etc)
[22:54] <mpeters> ifconfig?
[22:54] <webpirate> patwotrik>> ifconfig
[22:54] <xEmblem> IF anyone is good at ATI Drivers Please PM ME!!!
[22:54] <jahnkeanate1> is every one having problems with updating to 7.10
[22:55] <jsg> hi, ive totally dragged my poor system through the mud and i want to start from scratch and reinstall ubuntu. how do i go about keeping all the packages ive already downloaded?
[22:55] <patwotrik> thanks a lot
[22:55]  * mpeters giggles
[22:55] <xbow> nouveau, yes, some problems gone but new come :) like everywhere. but black days of 90-th gone
[22:55] <jahnkeanate1> i get a downloading error every time
[22:55] <Triplee23> Anyone who have a running avahi-daemon and can help me?
[22:55] <shenjing> i have a problem with OOo
[22:55] <mpeters> good + ati
[22:55] <webpirate> http://www.joeygregorash.ca/ubuntu2.jpg
[22:55] <tasos> webpirate: it's selected, I've switched to Mic 1, boost is on. Recording Level Monitor shows no activity. I've checked the forums and they usually say switch to Mic 2 and then back to Mic1, but that doesn't do the trick
[22:55] <Alyxander> ehh when did yahoo become a recruiting ground for terrorists and scamers!
[22:55] <shenjing> everytime i try to start OOo i get the spash screen, the bar loads a third of the way
[22:55] <shenjing> and then the program quits
[22:55] <xEmblem> haha funny mpeters...
[22:55] <mpeters> ;)
[22:55] <shenjing> does anyone know why OOo doesn't load anymore?
[22:56] <webpirate> tasos>> you sure you are not plugged in the "Line In" on the back of your computer?
[22:56] <Ashfire908> scguy318, it reports an i/o error
[22:56] <Alyxander> shenjing remove everything openoffice and re install it
[22:56] <RandomUsr> how do i put two irc channels on one window in xchat?
[22:56] <xbow> shenjing, try start it from CLI
[22:56] <nouveau> xbow in the international scene, Russia is still important
[22:56] <mpeters> shenjing: try invoking it from the command line and see if it spits and error
[22:56] <jeanmass_> i've just installed the latest kubuntu on a new asus f3sa laptop, and the sound is not working
[22:56] <mgk> did anyone have a link for : 'The Truth about the vista logo' ?
[22:56] <shenjing> i get The program 'openoffice' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[22:56] <Alyxander> mgk google?
[22:56] <webpirate> there has to be a trick to my problem..I am sure I just need like 1 line in my xorg.conf
[22:56] <shenjing> except
[22:56] <scguy318> Ashfire908: substitute /dev/cdrom for your CD device
[22:56] <webpirate> http://www.joeygregorash.ca/ubuntu2.jpg
[22:57] <shenjing> when i do apt-get....
[22:57] <scguy318> Ashfire908: if you're too lazy for all this just use like k3b
[22:57] <mgk> Alyxander: ohohoh thanks !
[22:57] <shenjing> i get openoffice.org-common is already the newest version.
[22:57] <tasos> webpirate: yes, positive. The only thing I haven't tried yet is modifying alsa_base , but I want to leave that for last
[22:57] <Ashfire908> scguy318, i did replace /dev/cdrom
[22:57] <Alyxander> shenjing remove open office and reinstall it
[22:58] <shenjing> ok
[22:58] <tasos> webpirate: but I'm sure it's not something as simple as that. I've checked everything
[22:58] <xbow> nouveau, mmm afraid to be very politicaly but putin is not eltshin. he is good leader
[22:58] <shenjing> ty
[22:58] <webpirate> tasas>> I don't know...
[22:58] <SpikePT> Hi all, can I create a user in ubuntu with an option so when that users logins for the first time, it's questioned to choose a password?
[22:58] <jeanmass_> need help for sound issue
[22:58] <scguy318> Ashfire908: weird then, try using k3b or something
[22:58] <jrib> webpirate: what *is* the problem?
[22:58] <larson9999> the goodwill strikes again: p4 1.3 ghz, 60gb ram, firewire, dvd, cd rw, et al for $15!  or is that due to moore's law?
[22:58] <webpirate> jrib>> did you look at the picture?
[22:58] <webpirate> http://www.joeygregorash.ca/ubuntu2.jpg
[22:58] <jrib> webpirate: yes
[22:58] <tafsen> How do I change from UTF-8 to ISO-8859-1?
[22:58] <jrib> webpirate: tell me what I am looking for
[22:58] <webpirate> look at the ubuntu window......my laptop screen is bigger than the ubuntu window
[22:59] <satellite> i have problem with my sound carb
[22:59] <webpirate> but ubuntu is not using the whole screen
[22:59] <satellite> card
[22:59]  * SpikePT tries to get some attention...
[22:59] <SpikePT> can I create a user in ubuntu with an option so when that users logins for the first time, it's questioned to choose a password?
[22:59] <Ashfire908> scguy318, i was trying to avoid kde apps
[22:59] <webpirate> 6.10 works perfect with the screen..but 7.04 and 7.10 do the same thing
[22:59] <scguy318> Ashfire908: its a fine KDE app, the KDE libs aren't serious overhead
[22:59] <obby> e.net
[23:00] <nouveau> xbow i can understand what a lot of russain thinks about Putin but, the way he managed the "tchetcheni" question was against human rights, i guess
[23:00] <tasos> webpirate: maybe it's simply a resolution thing? have you tried different resolutions?
[23:00] <larson9999> webpirate, mine is like that too.  started when i upgraded to gutsy.  if i go into the computers setup menu at boot and then exit it, it's back to normal but i have to do that on every boot
[23:00] <xEmblem> Someone please help me with latest ATI Drivers.
[23:00] <jsg> spikept, you can set that up in 'users and groups' under 'administration'
[23:00] <Ashfire908> scguy318, also i seem not to be able to read certain files on the disc. the bytes don't match or something
[23:00] <SpikePT> jsg: thanks
[23:00] <webpirate> yes....all resolution options...I am stuck....like I said before the same xorg.conf works properly in 6.10
[23:00] <larson9999> webpirate, but now it's for everything os on this machine
[23:00] <scguy318> Ashfire908: your disc might need a cleaning
[23:00] <jsg> spikept, no worries
[23:01] <jrib> webpirate: ah, you need to change the resolution for the login screen then.  google suggests just removing all of the resolutions you do not use from your xorg.conf...
[23:01] <tasos> webpirate: what happens when you change resolutions? does the size stay the same but things look smaller?
[23:01] <SpikePT> jsg: But where? System > Administration > Users and groups > after that???
[23:01] <Sn3ipen> Is it fglrx 8.41.7 or 8.42 that comes with Ubuntu 7.10 as the properitary ATI driver?
[23:02] <webpirate> still the same window size but everthing insode the window is bigger
[23:02] <Ashfire908> scguy318, no. i have the same issue with a file on another simlar disc
[23:02] <webpirate> I will login and see what happens
[23:02] <jsg> spikept, add a new user, to the group there a button right at the top right
[23:02] <xEmblem> Sn3ipen me and you might have the same problem, wait what ATI card do oyu have
[23:02] <SpikePT> jsg: But there is no option to do what  want...
[23:02] <jrib> webpirate: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-9a8fa8e79e2458de1eb69eadb2c97a633be81a42
[23:02] <webpirate> the window stays the same size after login..everything worksok even glx..just really small
[23:03] <jsg> spikept, its a big button called 'add user' cant miss it
[23:03] <INTit> hi
[23:03] <Sn3ipen> xEmblem, I have a Radeon Mobility X1400
[23:03] <xEmblem> o
[23:03] <xEmblem> lol
[23:03] <xEmblem> well you will have better luck than I
[23:04] <Sn3ipen> I think so
[23:04] <xEmblem> im stuck with an older card
[23:04] <SpikePT> jsg: Not that, when I click "OK" It says the passwords have to be 6 characters long, and I want to do it so the user can choose it's passwords upon it's first login...
[23:04] <webpirate> back in a sec
[23:04] <Sn3ipen> thats to bad they dont support older cards:/
[23:04] <xbow> nouveau, about chechnya - it's not simple question, it's like ireland in UK or basks in espania. chechnia's rebels were quicly turn to bandits, used kidnepping like common mean for get money and other.... your massmedia doesn't show the terrible reportages... it's very hard and complex problem
[23:05] <Sn3ipen> They just want you to spend money on a newer card
[23:05] <jsg> spikept, sorry, you have to ask your friend what password he wants, only you or another admin has the power to create new users
[23:05] <econobeing> does anybody know of a battery monitor i could use with fluxbox?
[23:05] <fatcatmatt> econobeing: kpowersave?
[23:05] <jahnkeanate1> got it
[23:06] <Ackdar> !NTFS
[23:06] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[23:06] <matthieu> bonne nuit/good night
[23:06] <Ackdar> !NTFS-3g
[23:06] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[23:07] <jsg> spikept, but that way, anyone could access your computer if they could create and set their own usernames :)
[23:07] <xEmblem> asdasdasddasdasdasdasdasdd
[23:07] <xEmblem> !fgrlx
[23:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fgrlx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:07] <jonah> hey guys my nvidia won't work, using nv in xorg, when i change to nvidia it says my module doesn't match the kernel or something and that it's already built in, i've messed it up, how can i get it working again please??
[23:07] <xEmblem> o.O
[23:08] <jsg> spikept, sorry i couldnt be of more help
[23:08] <b0r3d> hi. why doesn't my hibernate work on my HP laptop
[23:08] <Ackdar> !FUSE
[23:08] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[23:08] <nouveau> xbow i belive that it's a complex problem and that know that massmedia are so......un-usefull. Some people here says that the main problem is that russain gov is fighting the muslims
[23:08] <jsg>  hi everyone, ive totally dragged my poor system through the mud and i want to start from scratch and reinstall ubuntu. how do i go about keeping all the packages ive already downloaded?
[23:08] <xEmblem> if there was one thing i could change about Ubuntu, it would be the friendlyness of installing/removing drivers
[23:08] <capiira_> hmmm hi did ubuntu update the rc3 of gimp 2.4.1 to final in gutsy after the release?
[23:08] <Odd-rationale> jsg: Use AptonCD
[23:09] <b0r3d> hi. why don'thibernate/suspend work on my HP laptop
[23:09] <jsg> odd-rationale, thanx
[23:09] <scguy318> jsg: /var/cache/apt/archives for debs you've downloaded
[23:09] <Odd-rationale> b0r3d: Hibernate is not supported on all laptops.
[23:09] <b0r3d> Odd-rationale: works on bista
[23:09] <b0r3d> vista*
[23:10] <b0r3d> and my laptop is -recent
[23:10] <Ackdar> !wireless
[23:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:10] <Pici> b0r3d: We mean hibernate is not supported on all laptops in Ubuntu.
[23:10] <jsg> scguy318, is it as simple as putting my previous debs into that folder after ive installed my system?
[23:10] <b0r3d> oh but this is HP
[23:10] <jonah> hello can anyone please help me fix nvidia i'm having to use nv
[23:10] <scguy318> jsg: no, you'll have to install them, but screw it, AptonCD is better bet
[23:10] <webpirate> those settings did not work
[23:10] <webpirate> :(
[23:10] <jsg> scguy318, got it, cheerz
[23:10] <Odd-rationale> b0r3d: Check the laptop testing page:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[23:11] <SpikePT> jsg: No problem, thanks for helping anyway ;)
[23:11] <xEmblem> lol bista :p
[23:12] <webpirate> http://www.joeygregorash.ca/ubuntu2.jpg
[23:12] <shenron> Hi, my sound stopped working after nautilus crashed. This has happened quite a few times with gutsy so far and its starting to get annoying. About half of the time I start the computer up the sound doesn't work either, so the only way to fix the problem is to reboot and get lucky
[23:12] <tasos> !microphone
[23:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about microphone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:12] <corecomps> 7.10 install cd is killing me here, freezes in console on non safe mode and in safe mode freezes on internet access
[23:12] <bertrf01> how can I increase my webcache
[23:13] <AutoMatriX> Hi folks, I'm running Gutsy, GNome, 2.6.22-14-server and I 'lost' Ktorrent ... it runs in bacground but I cannot access the user interface
[23:13] <Pici> bertrf01: Within Firefox?
[23:13] <drgeb> In my cupds admin I see 2 printer, but I only have one printer connected to my server how do I determine which one is the right one to add??
[23:13] <corecomps> firefox doesn't even come up
[23:13] <bertrf01> Pici: believe it or not i'v searched firefox for ages and cant find it mate
[23:14] <xbow> nouveau, no it's nonsense cause about 40% of our population are muslims.   Americans and some europian country too
[23:14] <Pici> bertrf01: Tools>Preferences -> Advanced Tab -> Network tab
[23:14] <astro76> !politics | xbow nouveau
[23:14] <ubotu> xbow nouveau: Please take political discussion to ##politics. Thank you!
[23:14] <shenron> does anyone know why my sound doesn't work?
[23:14] <tasos> Does anybody have any experience with microphone issues in ubuntu? apparently it's a very common problem, but solutions vary ... I've tried many things
[23:14] <xbow> ubotu, ok, sorry
[23:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok, sorry - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:14] <bertrf01> Pici:there no preferences in tools
[23:14] <Pici> bertrf01: Sorry, Edit> Preferences
[23:14] <jonah> hello does anyone know how to fix nvidia, it used to work then i screwed it up and would like to get it working again please
[23:15] <tasos> jonah:  what exactly happened
[23:15] <fatcatmatt> ubuntu 8.60 should be named hectic henry!  lol
[23:15] <tasos> jonah:  usually nvidia-glx-config does the trick
[23:16] <drgeb> fatcatmatt why?
[23:16] <tasos> jonah: go to a terminal, type nvidia and then press tab a couple of times ... this should come up with a couple of commands. try them
[23:16] <Pici> !8.04 | fatcatmatt
[23:16] <ubotu> fatcatmatt: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:16] <fatcatmatt> drgeb: because everybody's having problems!  lol
[23:16] <jonah> tasos, well my system kept locking up with using nvidia so i tried nv, but i still got the odd freeze up so i tried installing nvidia from nvidia website but i don't think it worked right, now i don't know what's installed but nvidia won't work in xorg.conf so still using nv
[23:16] <fatcatmatt> that's NOT a cool name!
[23:16] <tasos> jonah: unless you don't have these packages installed ... in which case you should install them (sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings)
[23:17] <fatcatmatt> fatcatmatt = new naming correspondant of ubuntu!
[23:17] <Pici> !codenames | fatcatmatt :)
[23:17] <Dr_willis_> Just wait for Indigent Iguana
[23:17] <ubotu> fatcatmatt :): Ubuntu has awesome release codenames. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames for more
[23:17] <webpirate> does ubuntu 7.10 uses a modules.conf?
[23:17] <webpirate> I can't find it
[23:17] <fatcatmatt> yes!  Hungry Hippo!
[23:17] <jonah> tasos, i put sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings and it's asking if i want to remove nvidia-new and install legacy, that can't be right!
[23:18] <drgeb> fatcatmat I guess I should stick with feisty for now
[23:18] <tasos> jonah: no don't. What is your card?
[23:18] <corecomps> anyone want to help  first timer?
[23:18] <nouveau> xbow ok, i was just askin, i know that problem can be much more complex than the way it's shown here. So now we have to listen to astro and ubotu, and stop speaking polical..lol (because of censure)
[23:18] <soundray> webpirate: no, that was replaced by /etc/modprobe.d/ a long time ago
[23:18] <Odd-rationale> !ask
[23:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[23:18] <fatcatmatt> drgeb: why feisty?
[23:18] <jonah> tasos geforce 7300
[23:18] <scguy318> corecomps: shoot
[23:18] <jahnkeanate1> is thheir name is read does that mean their a bot
[23:18] <Ellipsys> Hello everyone
[23:18] <kanzie> #prototype
[23:18] <corecomps> odd- tried that already but here it goes:
[23:18] <drgeb> fatcatmatt even with feisty I have weird issues that I can't resolve
[23:18] <tasos> jonah: k, let me check
[23:19] <jonah> tasos, thanks man i owe you
[23:19] <Odd-rationale> jahnkeanate1: no
[23:19] <fatcatmatt> drgeb: i thought the naming scheme was alphabetical with ubuntu...?
[23:19] <Ellipsys> Is anyone here using the latest ATI fglrx driver, 8.42.3?
[23:19] <jahnkeanate1> do bots have that color all the time
[23:19] <xbow> nouveau, did you receive my msgs in private? or smthing with ur client?
[23:19] <corecomps> I downloaded 7.10 cd burned and restarted my machine,
[23:19] <Nova> i've used it but i switched back cause i was nervous
[23:19] <Odd-rationale> jahnkeanate1: bots have various colors
[23:19] <jrib> jahnkeanate1: no, the color means your name is in the message probably
[23:19] <Jguiller68> hello
[23:19] <jahnkeanate1> ok
[23:19] <drgeb> fatcatmatt so right now I am scared to upgrade and that this will go wrong
[23:19] <defishguy> Ellipsys:  I was just about to install it on the wifes laptop.
[23:20] <soundray> Ellipsys: I was about to install it, but then I heard that it had compatibility problems with the gutsy kernel
[23:20] <jahnkeanate1> are fatcatmatt and ubotu bots
[23:20] <nouveau> xbow no i received nothing
[23:20] <corecomps> machine stats: nVidia 7050 chipset on board video and PCI-E 8600GTS
[23:20] <tasos> jonah: try sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[23:20] <Jguiller68> have a chat ubuntu in spanish?
[23:20] <jrib> Jguiller68: #ubuntu-es
[23:20] <soundray> !es | Jguiller68
[23:20] <ubotu> Jguiller68: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[23:20] <Nova> getting it to work with compiz and all is a real pain, best to wait until its official
[23:20] <Ellipsys> defishguy:  Is that the problem its having? It seems to be accelerating my 3d OpenGL aps
[23:20] <corecomps> the video doesnt show up unless I use the on board video
[23:20] <Odd-rationale> jahnkeanate1: ubuto is. fatcatmatt is not
[23:20] <Jguiller68> very that you
[23:21] <Ellipsys> defishguy: Except, tther are all kinds of missing textures, making any games unplayable
[23:21] <johnation33> does anyone know how to check what version of alsa im running?
[23:21] <rainwalker> is there a way to create a launcher or script to change the mouse from right to left handed and vice versa?
[23:21] <jahnkeanate1> ok the bot in ubotu gives it away
[23:21] <corecomps> and using various settings the best I get is to the desktop before it freezes
[23:21] <jahnkeanate1> y are their bots
[23:21] <xbow> nouveau, hm it's strange. try send me to private
[23:21] <nouveau> xbow and you ? did you received something ?
[23:21] <defishguy> My understanding is that AIGLX support is there but still weak.
[23:21] <jake_348> go to synaptic and search for alsa package it should tell you
[23:21] <Ellipsys> defishguy: It didn't do this before on Fiesty and older fglrx drivers.
[23:21] <jonah> tasos, will that break it again though cos when i change it in xorg i get some error about module not matching kernel or something
[23:21] <xbow> nouveau, nothing too :(
[23:21] <soundray> jahnkeanate1: because they remember things very accurately, e.g. URLs
[23:22] <fatcatmatt> jahnkeanatel: no i am not a bot LMAO
[23:22] <Ellipsys> defishguy: Thats what I hear, but I'm not even trying to run Compiz or AIGLX apps, just OpenGL ones for the moment.
[23:22] <scguy318> corecomps: so a nice freeze on LiveCD?
[23:22] <xbow> nouveau, do you use jabber?
[23:22] <scguy318> corecomps: and you tried to boot with safe graphics but same issue?
[23:22] <jahnkeanate1> how do i update to 7.10 from cd not internet
[23:22] <Nova> is your opengl still mesa?
[23:22] <jrib> rainwalker: do you know of *any* way to switch it?
[23:22] <fatcatmatt> that's gotta be the funniest thing i have heard all day
[23:22] <defishguy> Ellipsys: What are the results from glxgears?
[23:22] <nouveau> no i am using Xchat
[23:22] <Nova> that was my biggest problem
[23:22] <rainwalker> jrib: through the menus, yes
[23:22] <nouveau> no i am using Xchat xbow
[23:22] <corecomps> scguy318 - yes
[23:22] <johnation33> anyone know how to check what version of alsa driver I am using?
[23:22] <jrib> rainwalker: what menu?
[23:22] <scguy318> jahnkeanate1: you need the alternate CD, gksud /cdrom/cdupgrade or something
[23:23] <Ellipsys> defishguy: Works fine... 3k or thereabouts on a mobility x600
[23:23] <soundray> jahnkeanate1: you can't do it with the live CD, but with the alternate CD, you can upgrade
[23:23] <rainwalker> jrib: system -> preferences -> mouse (on gutsy)
[23:23] <tasos> jonah:  well, this will basically enable the nvidia driver and/or change your xorg.cong accordingly. If you're worried, just backup your xorg.conf before you type the command
[23:23] <jrib> rainwalker: oh, I see... lets dig into what that does...
[23:23] <scguy318> corecomps: I would suggest using the text-based alternate CD for installation, then we can fix any X issues we encounter
[23:23] <scguy318> !alternate | corecomps
[23:23] <ubotu> corecomps: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[23:23] <fatcatmatt> jahnkeanatel: why would you think i am a bot?
[23:23] <Tygrrysek> hello can i find anybody speaking polish? :)
[23:23] <soundray> !pl | Tygrrysek
[23:23] <ubotu> Tygrrysek: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[23:23] <defishguy> Ellipsys:  What isn't playable for you?
[23:24] <pestilence> when i try to use the ipl3945, i get a bunch of unresolved symbols, such as  iwl3945: Unknown symbol iwlwifi_ieee80211_rx_irqsafe
[23:24] <pestilence> has anybody successfully used ipl3945 in gutsy?
[23:24] <jahnkeanate1> i dont know the font
[23:24] <pestilence> ipw3945 is buggy.
[23:24] <Ellipsys> defishguy: Pretty much anything that has 3d models in OpenGL.  WoW under Wine, Planet Penguin Racer, Nexuiz. All kinds of missing or broken textures etc...
[23:24] <jahnkeanate1> u say alot
[23:24] <Tygrrysek> soundray: thx :)
[23:24] <fatcatmatt> drgeb: upgrade away lol.  i my ntfs is automatic so i dont have to worry about changing all of my settings
[23:25] <DeathStar> anyone know why .ogg video created with desktop recorder from the repo's is crashing all my video players ?
[23:25] <xbow> nouveau, try channel "channel1"
[23:25] <jahnkeanate1> where can i get the alternituve cd
[23:25] <DeathStar> it does work a friend of mine has played it on his mac
[23:25] <jahnkeanate1> iso
[23:25] <Nova> jahn its on the download page
[23:25] <tasos> jahnkeanate1: www.ubuntu.com
[23:25] <fatcatmatt> jahnkeanatel: same place you downloaded the iso you got.  just select "alternative cd".  there's a check box for it at the bottom
[23:25] <jahnkeanate1> where is it there
[23:25] <rainwalker> jahnkeanate1: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[23:26] <fatcatmatt> jahnkeanatel: ill get it for ya hang on
[23:26] <fatcatmatt> jahnkeanatel: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[23:26] <Nova> yeah you have to click the link at the bottom for complete list
[23:26] <fatcatmatt> select the check box below the download pic, jahnkeanatel
[23:26] <excessluggage> Ellipsys: I got WoW running on mine, woohoo.  Not Kotor2 though :(
[23:27] <tasos> jahnkeanate1: do the FIND function on your browser to look for ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso
[23:27] <scguy318> excessluggage: KOTOR is fickle even on Windows :(
[23:27] <scguy318> excessluggage: well, KOTOR 2
[23:27] <tasos> (if that's the processor version you want)
[23:27] <nouveau> xbow it does not work anymore :(
[23:27] <jahnkeanate1> k
[23:27] <Ellipsys> excessluggage: ATI or Nvidia? If ATI, what driver and version?
[23:27] <excessluggage> scguy318: yeah the reason I tried it in wine was because Vista has some bad issues running it
[23:27] <jrib> rainwalker: looks like a gconf key so you can use gconftool-2 on /desktop/gnome/peripherals/mouse/left_handed
[23:27] <excessluggage> Ellipsys: Nvidia
[23:27] <tasos> Anybody know how to get the microphone working in ubuntu?
[23:28] <scguy318> excessluggage: people have had luck but KOTOR 2 is buggy :(
[23:28] <xbow> nouveau, just type '/j #channel1'
[23:28] <Ellipsys> excessluggage: Ahh, that would do it. Nvidia has pretty great support. Unfortunately I have an ATI card in this laptop >>
[23:28] <rainwalker> jrib: are you saying I should create a launcher with that set as the path?
[23:28] <nouveau> i typed / join # channell but nothing..
[23:28] <excessluggage> scguy318: yeah, got as far as having it installed (and didnt need a nocd) but it wouldnt pick up the g card and so wouldnt load
[23:28] <nouveau> i'll try once more
[23:28] <filloy> Hello everyone! Im having troubles with a new PCI wireless card. Its an Encore Wireless-G with Realtek RTL8185L chipset and there are several sites saying this card works with Linux, but the problem is that when y plug the card in the PCI slot and start the computer, the Ubuntu (7.10) loading bar stops in about 3/4...if i remove the card and start the computer, everything works fine. So, does anyone know how to make this work ? Thank you very much!
[23:28] <tasos> nouveau: without the space between # and channel
[23:29] <jahnkeanate1> it dodnt find anything
[23:29] <scguy318> filloy: if the native drivers dont want to cooperate, you can use ndiswrapper
[23:29] <jahnkeanate1> didnt
[23:29] <jrib> rainwalker: no, /desktop/gnome/peripherals/mouse/left_handed is a gconf key.  You use gconftool-2 to modify gconf keys.  Take a look at the man page for it, poke me if it is not clear
[23:29] <scguy318> filloy: though we can diagnose your issue better if you boot without quiet splash
[23:29] <jahnkeanate1> ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso
[23:29] <jahnkeanate1> didnt come up with anything
[23:29] <filloy> scguy318: so what should i do to boot without quiet splash?
[23:30] <mediabuntu> hi how do i minitor a error log in real time ?
[23:30] <nouveau> tasos with or without the space ... i can see xbow
[23:30] <scguy318> filloy: at the GRUB menu, press e, then remove the quiet and splash options
[23:30] <fatcatmatt> jahnkeanatel: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloading?release=desktop-newest&arch=i386&mirror=http%3A%2F%2Fmirrors.easynews.com%2Flinux%2Fubuntu-releases%2F&debug=%5B%27country_US%27%2C+%27country_UK%27%2C+%27continent_NA%27%5D&download-button=&alternatecd=alternate
[23:30] <scguy318> filloy: then boot
[23:30] <tasos> jahnkeanate1: on the page you gave me (http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/) the alternate link is at the bottom, about a screen up from the last link
[23:30] <scguy318> filloy: or you could just do Ctrl-Alt-F1 then Ctrl-Alt-F7 if lazy
[23:30] <tafsen> How do I change from UTF-8 to ISO-8859-1?
[23:30] <rainwalker> jrib: uh...it's not clear, sorry
[23:30] <xbow> nouveau, copy and paste this: /j #channel1
[23:31] <jahnkeanate1> o got it didnt need to use find
[23:31] <jrib> rainwalker: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[23:31] <filloy> scguy318: ok, ill do that and see what comes up :) thank you!, ill be back!
[23:31] <jaym> whats the big difference between running 64bit ubuntu and 32bit
[23:31] <excessluggage> 32
[23:31] <tasos> jahnkeanate1: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=%06%DA%2A%9F%C6%7D%40N%26%B9g7%7D%D0B%93%D9.%BFt
[23:31] <scguy318> excessluggage :)
[23:31] <jaym> should i download new iso or should i load my 32bit version and be ok
[23:31] <scguy318> 32 is better
[23:31] <scguy318> cuz you might deal with 32-bit only stuff
[23:31] <Ellipsys> jaym: I believe there is a lot that doesn't work quite as well under 64. Unless you have more than 4gb of RAM, its not worth it
[23:31] <rainwalker> jrib: alrighty
[23:31] <jaym> k thnx
[23:32] <Taras> Can anyone help me out, I am using Ubuntu 7.10, and have Wine installed, the problem is when i delete other programs from wine they still appear in the Wine programs folder
[23:32] <Odd-rationale> jaym: TGhe 32 bit has more support at the moment becuase it is more widly used
[23:32] <jrib> !restricted > wotamuckinfuddle (read the private message from ubotu)
[23:32] <IanLiu> How do I extract a split .RAR files?
[23:32] <excessluggage> 64 bit is potentially quicker, but not as well supported so most apps end up being run in 32 bit mode.  Plus I don't think you can use both the 32 bit and 64 bit repos at the same time
[23:32] <jaym> great thanx
[23:32] <nny> Ia m trying to eradicat egnome from this system.. i want nm-applet though.. as it seems to be the only wireless app that works.. does anyone know what package it is in???
[23:32] <wotamuckinfuddle> thanx jrib
[23:32] <IanLiu> I've a file which was split into several .RAR files, how do I extract it?
[23:33] <kbrooks> excessluggage, no such thing as that
[23:33] <excessluggage> kbrooks: no such thing as...?
[23:33] <kbrooks> excessluggage, there are apps compiled for 64 bit
[23:33] <Taras> ok this was very helpful
[23:33] <AutoMatriX> Hi folks, I'm running Gutsy, GNome, 2.6.22-14-server and I 'lost' Ktorrent ... it runs in bacground but I cannot access the user interface
[23:33] <jahnkeanate1> did it come with a .exe to
[23:33] <Odd-rationale> Taras: Right-click the menu bar on the panel. Then select edit menus. Then find the mune you wnat to delete. Right click and delete.
[23:33] <scguy318> IanLiu: open the first RAR
[23:33] <tasos> IanLiu: SUDO APT-GET INSTALL UNRAR
[23:33] <DM|> anyone know a good place to ask for support for wine+ world of warcraft BC install ?
[23:33] <jahnkeanate1> open the exe that came with it
[23:33] <tasos> (sorry for the caps)
[23:33] <scguy318> tasos: caps
[23:33] <scguy318> tasos: np
[23:34] <scguy318> DM|: #winehq
[23:34] <jahnkeanate1> it was made with win rar
[23:34] <IanLiu> thanks
[23:34] <jimqode> I have a sony vaio vgn-n395e laptop with ubuntu gutsy. Fan never runs. Laptop overheats. Any suggestions?
[23:34] <brack10> hello
[23:35] <jahnkeanate1> did it have a exe
[23:35] <brack10> does gutsy have the latest drivers for my nvidia geforce 6600GT?
[23:35] <jahnkeanate1> lanliu
[23:35] <Burlynn> we dont use exe's in linux
[23:35] <Burlynn> well except for wine i guess
[23:35] <jahnkeanate1> lanLiu: Did the rar's come with an exe
[23:35] <brack10> i use them to play day of defeat
[23:35] <brack10> on linux
[23:37] <filloy> scguy318: Funny, it stopped in "Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd" and it hang there....but i dont see how the wireless network card is related to the printing system, any idea?
[23:37] <GAMMAX> does nyone now of a rss drredr for ktorrent?
[23:37] <GAMMAX> anyone
[23:38] <scguy318> filloy: weird, well, I guess we could see about setting up ndiswrapper
[23:38] <GAMMAX> does anyone know of a RSS feeder for Korrent?
[23:38] <filloy> scguy318: well, yes, but i cant even boot into linux with the card on...:(
[23:38] <excessluggage> ah, that's what drredr meant!
[23:39] <sam1337> Does Ubuntu 7.10 support hdd enryption on the live cd or alternate cd?
[23:39] <scguy318> filloy: don't really need the card installed for ndiswrapper
[23:39] <scguy318> filloy: *installing
[23:39] <scguy318> sam1337: latter
[23:40] <scguy318> filloy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[23:40] <corecomps_> scguy318 - the alternate installer what will I expect different?
[23:40] <scguy318> corecomps_: text-based, more customization
[23:40] <GAMMAX> can anyone helpe?
[23:40] <scguy318> corecomps_: you won't get to test Ubuntu live
[23:40] <scguy318> corecomps_: but it would seem that's the only choice here
[23:40] <filloy> scguy318: so you suggest i install ndiswrapper and then plug the card? wouldnt it be better to blacklist the driver its trying to use, boot and then install ndiswrapper, if necesary?
[23:41] <sam1337> When I tried hdd encryption on debian I had to type in a password at boot, does ubuntu allow me to do it graphically?
[23:41] <scguy318> filloy: sure, that would be fine too
[23:41] <kakoonia> is amarok good for ubuntu too? cause it requires kde packages
[23:41] <filloy> scguy318: the problem is what driver to blacklist :(
[23:41] <corecomps_> I know this is a ubuntu forum but maybe this is a good question, is this the best linux distrubution to try first?
[23:42] <Burlynn> kakoonia: it'll run fine it just has to install all the kde libs it needs to run
[23:42] <sam1337> kakoonia rhythmbox is just as good but does not require kde packages
[23:42] <corecomps_> I'm looking for something that seems as main stream as possible
[23:42] <kakoonia> thanks you 2..
[23:42] <kakoonia> :)
[23:42] <corecomps_> made the choice simply because Dell did
[23:42] <pestilence> anybody know of a well-supported and inexpensive USB wifi key?
[23:42] <mediabuntu> kakoonia: hi , you should be fine :)
[23:42] <scguy318> filloy: mm
[23:42] <scguy318> filloy: what was your card?
[23:43] <kakoonia> mediabuntu: thanks.. i hope for the best ;)
[23:43] <filloy> corecomps: try ubuntu, its easy and safe, then if you want to go crazy and learn a lot, use Gentoo or a BSD
[23:43] <sam1337> nothing beats debian and ubuntu
[23:43] <mediabuntu> kakoonia: i bet my mother on it
[23:43] <filloy> scguy318: Its an Encore ENLWI-G2 with Realtek chipset
[23:44]  * kakoonia chokes from his nargilla!
[23:44] <scguy318> filloy: i think its RTL8185
[23:44] <excessluggage> indeed Ubuntu are teh pwnzor (with a tiny bit of configuring
[23:45] <scguy318> filloy: mebbe rt61pci, rt71usb, rt2x00
[23:45] <scguy318> filloy: be safe and blacklist all of those
[23:45] <SpikePT> How can I use my infra-red device in Ubuntu?
[23:45] <filloy> scguy318: The chipset is RTL8185L
[23:45] <SpikePT> I need it for my cellphone
[23:45] <filloy> scguy318: ok, ill try blacklisting all of those, thank you...ill be back
[23:45] <brack10> will someone check out what happens when I try and run azureus and tell me if they know what's wrong?
[23:45] <brack10> http://pastebin.com/d3d69ea56
[23:46] <brack10> it runs the splash screen then immediately quits
[23:46] <brack10> and that's what happens when I run it in terminal
[23:46] <Burlynn> anyone having trouble running frostwire in gutsy? (jre is installed)
[23:47] <jahnkeanate1> yea
[23:47] <jahnkeanate1> i thunk it is only kde
[23:47] <webpirate> I am back..
[23:47] <webpirate> I still need help...
[23:47] <webpirate> http://www.joeygregorash.ca/ubuntu2.jpg
[23:47] <webpirate> please tel me how to fix..
[23:47] <webpirate> I have tried many many options...
[23:48] <kakoonia> sam1337: when i try to import mp3's from a cdrom, it says that the mime type of the file could not be identified
[23:48] <tades> hello
[23:48] <fatcatmatt> what's the problem, webpirate?
[23:48] <sam1337> kakoonia: I'm too noob for that ask someone else sorry.
[23:48] <webpirate> did you see the picture?
[23:48] <kakoonia> k
[23:48] <fatcatmatt> yes
[23:48] <tades> hello
[23:48]  * assasukasse is away: Im leaving, query me.
[23:48] <webpirate> http://www.joeygregorash.ca/ubuntu2.jpg <<---look at ubuntu window size VS actuall screen size...
[23:49] <fatcatmatt> oh i see it now
[23:49] <webpirate> fatcat>> any ideas?
[23:49] <fatcatmatt> hrm...
[23:49] <tades> greeting
[23:49] <hibajugala> hey guys
[23:49] <excessluggage> moo
[23:49] <fatcatmatt> got the right video drivers?  ati, right?
[23:49] <sangprabo> Hello, how do I assign Win + E as a shortcut @ Ubuntu? When i press Win at preferences-> Keybord shortcut, it says "Multiple key".. And I just need to press Win (without 'E') for a shortcut... I could use it at KDE.. :(
[23:49] <webpirate> it works in 6.10 fine....bu 7.04 and 7.10 thats what it does when I try to use restricted drivers
[23:49] <webpirate> nvidia
[23:50] <SpikePT> anyone?
[23:50] <fatcatmatt> nvidia what
[23:50] <webpirate> 440 go
[23:50] <rockets> I changed the hostname of my ubuntu box, but when I log in it still says foo@$ubuntu~
[23:50] <SpikePT> how can I enable my IrDa Device?
[23:50] <webpirate> I even tried the same xorg.conf file from 6.10 and does the same thing..
[23:50] <rockets> how do i make the prompt display my new hostname?
[23:51] <jaym> just loaded gutsy on a drive that used to have xp on it. now when booting all it says is GRUB and stops what am i missing?
[23:51] <sangprabo> rockets: type hostname ?
[23:51] <sangprabo> rockets: and restart ur console / terminal
[23:51] <rockets> sangprabo, no . . .
[23:51] <interbird> jaym: maybe the grub menu-file
[23:51] <rockets> already done all that.
[23:51] <wim> i need sex
[23:51] <webpirate> http://www.joeygregorash.ca/ubuntu2.jpg <<---look at ubuntu window size VS actuall screen size...
[23:51] <rockets> typing hostname tells me what it is yes
[23:51] <rockets> but i want the prompt to say foo@hostname
[23:51] <SpikePT> !find irda
[23:51] <ubotu> Found: irda-utils
[23:51] <rockets> and ive rebooted the box
[23:51] <jaym> interbird how do i fix this?
[23:51] <SpikePT> !irda
[23:51] <wim> anybody want ot fuck>
[23:51] <ubotu> Information about using IrDA interfaces under Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto
[23:51] <kakoonia> im trying to play mp3's through rythmbox, and its not loading them, "file type could no be identified", when i click a mp3 file, it opens the movie player as default also..
[23:51] <weltschmerz> what are some popular ide's that work well over sftp?
[23:51] <rockets> !ohmy |wim
[23:51] <ubotu> wim: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[23:52] <fatcatmatt> webpirate: could try this?  http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/nvidia-geforce4-440-go-and-the-9631-driver/
[23:52] <excessluggage> wim: me too wim.  A downside of spending too much time on the computer
[23:52] <interbird> jaym: can you boot the live cd ?
[23:52] <jaym> yes
[23:52] <jaym> now says grub hard disk error
[23:52] <webpirate> I have that in there....
[23:52] <SpikePT> how to use the apt-get command again?
[23:52] <webpirate> But ubuntu refuses to use the full screen
[23:53] <jaym> nvrmind on reboot its loading now
[23:53] <alexis25> apt-get install
[23:53] <webpirate> http://www.joeygregorash.ca/ubuntu2.jpg <<---look at ubuntu window size VS actuall screen size...
[23:53] <excessluggage> SpikePT: to install do apt-get install blah
[23:53] <SpikePT> apt-get irda-utils???
[23:53] <interbird> jaym: it boots now?
[23:53] <jaym> yea after reboot
[23:53] <SpikePT> !find irda
[23:53] <ubotu> Found: irda-utils
[23:53] <excessluggage> apt-get install irda-common irda-utils
[23:53] <kakoonia> im trying to play mp3's through rythmbox, and its not loading them, "file type could no be identified", when i click a mp3 file, it opens the movie player as default also..
[23:53] <interbird> jaym: wow, did i solve that quickly or not ? :-)
[23:54] <fatcatmatt> webpirate: post your xorg.conf on pastebin
[23:54] <Ackdar_> !ntfs
[23:54] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[23:54] <SpikePT> excessluggage: thanks
[23:54] <fatcatmatt> imma go grab some supper
[23:54] <jaym> thanks!!!
[23:54] <webpirate> no internet on that machine..
[23:54] <webpirate> yet
[23:54] <webpirate> screen is too messed up....
[23:55] <SpikePT> !find setserial
[23:55] <ubotu> Found: setserial
[23:55] <webpirate> the windows load all strange and you can't see the tops and bottome of some of them..
[23:55] <sangprabo> !mp3
[23:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:55] <bogus-> np: (Winamp is not active ;-)
[23:55] <webpirate> http://www.joeygregorash.ca/ubuntu2.jpg <<---look at ubuntu window size VS actuall screen size...
[23:55] <Pici> bogus-: Please dont use now playing scripts in this channel, thanks/.
[23:55] <Ashfire908> how do i install a virtual package?
[23:56] <Pici> webpirate: Does your laptop do that with other operating systems?
[23:56] <webpirate> I think I will just go back to 6.10
[23:56] <webpirate> Pici...Only with ubuntu 7.04 and 7.10 ubuntu 6.10 is perfect
[23:56] <webpirate> I used xorg.conf from 6.10 and it does the same thing..
[23:56] <Pici> webpirate: When was the last time you used 6.10?
[23:57] <webpirate> I had 6.10 installed until about 3:00 this afternoon
[23:57] <quittt> how do I change Ubuntu to XUbuntu on OS chooser?
[23:57] <jrib> webpirate: did you try my suggestion?
[23:57] <Ashfire908> how do i install a virtual package?
[23:57] <webpirate> jrib...yes..i already had that in there
[23:57] <jrib> webpirate: had what?
[23:57] <webpirate> that command
[23:57] <quittt> how do I change it?
[23:57] <webpirate> Option "UseDisplayDevice" "DFP"
[23:57] <quittt> !xubuntu
[23:57] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[23:57] <jrib> webpirate: I didn't suggest a command...
[23:58] <plugwash> Ashfire908, you don't because it doesn't exist, if you want to satisfy a dependency on it you need to install one of the packages that provides it
[23:58] <webpirate> no I mean a xorg.conf line
[23:58] <Dr_willis> quittt,  you mean the initial GRUB  boot menu? where you pick ubuntu or windows?
[23:58] <kahrytan> What is the GTK Human Theme for Ubuntu?
[23:58] <quittt> Dr_willis, yes
[23:58] <Dr_willis> quittt,  edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst as the root user .
[23:58] <jrib> webpirate: that isn't what I suggested.  Did you read the link I gave you?
[23:58] <Ashfire908> plugwash, hmm, which do i install?
[23:58] <webpirate> yes
[23:58] <webpirate> the wordpress one?
[23:58] <riotkittie> stability or flashy effects. decisions, decisions. stupid ati card of flaming desktop effect death.
[23:58] <plugwash> which of the packages providing it you install is your choice
[23:59] <kahrytan> What is the GTK Human Theme?
[23:59] <jrib> webpirate: no... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-9a8fa8e79e2458de1eb69eadb2c97a633be81a42
[23:59] <riotkittie> it's the default gtk theme, kahrytan
[23:59] <webpirate> Oh!! yes...thats why I was away so long...
[23:59] <quittt> Dr_willis, but if I upgrade my kernel in the future, will it be Ubuntu or XUbuntu?
[23:59] <Theverant> My Wacom tablet works as a regular pointing device, but I cannot set it up as an extended device in Gimp nor Inkscape.  I have had no troubles with this in the past


[04:28] <ashabadi> hi annasha
[04:35] <tareq> hello ashabadi
[04:36] <tareq> ashabadi: need to discuss on few things with you
[04:44] <annasha> Hello ashabadi !
[04:45] <ashabadi> hello tareq
[04:45] <tareq> hello ashabadi
[04:45] <ashabadi> bad timing... leaving shortly for office
[04:45] <tareq> no problem
[04:45] <tareq> just tell me when you will get time
[04:45] <tareq> need to talk about loco team
[04:46] <ashabadi> ok
[04:46] <ashabadi> I'm not sure my office timing has changed due to system testing
[04:46] <tareq> tonight
[04:46] <ashabadi> I will be at office till 1am
[04:46] <ashabadi> after that not sure will be able to keep my head up
[04:47] <tareq> then another
[04:47] <tareq> time
[04:47] <ashabadi> this issue will continue till 2nd of July I guess
[04:47] <tareq> :(
[04:47] <ashabadi> if everything goes smothly
[04:48] <tareq> ok, RJ is busy
[04:48] <tareq> I've some free time till mid july
[04:48] <tareq> even i can manage more
[04:48] <ashabadi> ok
[04:48] <tareq> so would like to contribute loco team
[04:49] <tareq> if you agree than i can proceed
[04:50] <ashabadi> first get hold of Russell john
[04:50] <ashabadi> he has most of the admin access
[04:51] <ashabadi> and tareq  bhai you don't need anyones permission to work on loco... trust me
[04:52] <Researcher-> hi Ekushey
[04:52] <Researcher-> :)
[04:53] <ashabadi> I don't think Ekushey is here
[04:53] <ashabadi> its his bot
[04:53] <Researcher-> bot ? nick Ekushey is bot ?
[04:53] <QA> Researcher-: One learns a new thing every day
[04:54] <Researcher-> i know Ekushey since quite a long time and i think this is his bnc/psybnc/or znc but it is not a bot.
[04:55] <tareq> ok, I will make some roadplan; than discuss with Russel John bhai
[04:56] <tareq> Researcher-: Can you introduce yourself?
[04:57] <Guest44795> Well i am from Pakistan, and ubuntu enthusiast
[04:58] <Researcher-> i work for loco team Pk
[04:58] <Researcher-> and i am serving in I.T industry since 18 years
[04:59] <tareq> Ohh, nice to meet you brother
[04:59] <Researcher-> mainly focusing into commercial servers hosting, industrial ERP's and applications of security.
[04:59] <Researcher-> same here
[04:59] <Researcher-> thank ou.
[04:59] <Researcher-> :)
[05:00] <Researcher-> but i am residing now at Muscat  Sultanate of Oman,
[05:05] <ashabadi> guys I've to leave now
[05:06] <tareq> ok ashabadi
[05:06] <tareq> see you soon
[05:06] <ashabadi> Researcher-: Ekushey has configured his id so that it logs record of converstion when he is away
[05:06] <ashabadi> ok tareq good day
[05:09] <tareq> Researcher-: Can you give me some suggestions regarding LoCo team activities?
[05:09] <Researcher-> well
[05:10] <Researcher-> tareq it depends on the role
[05:10] <tareq> like?
[05:11] <Researcher-> between let me know about your strong side .... are you good with technical side or management or administration etc ?
[05:18] <Researcher-> brb\
[06:02] <pavlushka> Hello every one!
[06:06] <Kilos> hi pavlushka and others
[06:07] <pavlushka> Kilos: using QIWI web client only because I love that bird, :p
[06:08] <Kilos> lol
[06:08] <Kilos> why  arent you in belkies channel
[06:09]  * pavlushka cant swear though
[06:12] <Kilos> pavlushka i mailed you
[06:13] <pavlushka> checking
[06:57] <RemonShai> এখানে login করা এতো ঝামেলা কেন?
[07:01] <pavlushka> hello RemonShai
[07:06] <RemonShai> hello pavlushka ভাই...../
[07:07] <pavlushka> কেমন আছেন RemonShai !
[07:08] <RemonShai> আলহামদুলিল্লাহ্ ভাল আছি। আপনি কেমন আছেন?
[07:11] <pavlushka> Remonshai use any standalone IRC client, better that web clients in connection stability, :)
[07:12] <pavlushka> like Hexchat, quassel, konversation, or anything you like
[07:13] <pavlushka> RemonShai: you can get help here instantly, interactively
[07:13] <pavlushka> RemonShai: for you ubuntu system issues
[07:13] <RemonShai> নেট, কিছুক্ষণ পরপর discannect হচ্ছে।
[07:13] <RemonShai> পুরনো বার্তা গেল কই?
[07:14] <pavlushka> RemonShai: Hexchat, quassel, konversation, or anything you like are better than web-client like Qiwi that you are using right now, :p
[07:15] <RemonShai> ok.....
[07:19] <pavlushka> RemonShai: I am talking in respect to connection stability for IRC, :)
[07:21] <pavlushka> RemonShai: please check here https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/06/22/%23ubuntu-bd.txt
[07:21] <pavlushka> QA tell Jihad : please check here https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/06/22/%23ubuntu-bd.txt
[07:28] <Kilos> netsplit killed her
[07:29] <Kilos> see you later
[07:30] <pavlushka> QA tell Jihad : please check here https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/06/22/%23ubuntu-bd.txt
[07:30] <QA_> pavlushka: I don't know who Jihad is. Say 'Jihad on freenode' and I'll take your word that Jihad exists
[07:30] <pavlushka> QA tell Jihad on freenode : please check here https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/06/22/%23ubuntu-bd.txt
[07:30] <QA_> pavlushka: Got it, I'll tell Jihad on freenode
[07:58] <pavlushka> QA tell ashabadi that is he actually will do his office till 1 AM?
[07:58] <QA_> pavlushka: Righto, I'll tell ashabadi on freenode
[08:02] <pavlushka> QA tell AudaciousTUX that Qiwi is a great idea to attract people, impressed but very unstable for connection comparing to standalone IRC clients, :)
[08:02] <QA_> pavlushka: Righto, I'll tell AudaciousTUX on freenode
[12:25] <tareq> Hello all
[12:25] <AudaciousTUX> hello
[12:26] <tareq> how are you doing frans
[12:26] <AudaciousTUX> trying to make a better platform of sharing linux realated knowledge ^_^
[14:07] <pavlushka> Hello again everyone!
[15:01]  * Kilos returned but need to eat and drink before i can think straight again
[15:38] <ashabadi> hi Ekushey Kilos pavlushka Researcher-
[15:54] <Kilos> hi ashabadi_
[15:56] <pavlushka> Hello ashabadi_!
[15:56] <pavlushka> I was busy playing king of fighters, :p
[15:57] <ashabadi_> good
[15:57] <ashabadi_> atleast having a fun time
[15:57] <ashabadi_> our sytem UAT postponed till Friday
[15:57] <Kilos> ash
[15:57] <Kilos> ashabadi_
[15:57] <ashabadi_> so I will resume normal office day tomorrow
[15:57] <pavlushka> ashabadi_,  you said you will do office till 1 am, are you in the office still?
[15:57] <Kilos> pavlushka give him the info to apply for membership please
[15:58] <ashabadi_> no pavlushka our UAT got postponned till Friday
[15:58] <Kilos> he has worked for ubuntu for years'
[15:58] <pavlushka> Kilos, ashabadi_ is more informed than me, just ask him if he is interested.
[15:58] <Kilos> ashabadi_ ?
[15:58] <ashabadi_> I'm novice in everything..
[15:58] <ashabadi_> I know nothing :'(
[15:59] <Kilos> google ubuntu/membership/newmember
[15:59] <ashabadi_> Kilos: may I answer it 1/2 month's down the line? if that's not too late to decide
[15:59] <ashabadi_> sure kilos
[15:59] <Kilos> no but you can start getting all your info together for a wiki page
[16:00] <Kilos> wiki is under lockdown because of spammers
[16:00] <ashabadi_> ok Kilos I will do it but gradually
[16:00] <ashabadi_> really?
[16:00] <Kilos> so someone with edit rights will have to do it for you
[16:01] <Kilos> yes there is a concerted attack against ubuntu wiki
[16:01] <Kilos> whole gangs of spammers
[16:01] <ashabadi_> sad
[16:01] <pavlushka> ashabadi_,  ashabadi_ you have to be the member of ubuntu-etherpad to edit wiki
[16:01] <pavlushka> ashabadi_, on LP.
[16:01] <Kilos> that has been stopped too i think pavlushka
[16:02] <Kilos> because some spammers got in that way
[16:02] <pavlushka> Kilos, :p, I can edit the wiki's
[16:02] <pavlushka> Kilos, I can do it for ashabadi as well, :p
[16:02] <Kilos> cool then you can make his wiki page for him
[16:02] <pavlushka> ashabadi_, you just have to mail me the details
[16:03] <Kilos> he must just get all his info together for you
[16:03] <ashabadi_> Kilos: I don't think I have links/photo for the contribution I made
[16:03] <pavlushka> Kilos, but who will write the testimonials for me?
[16:03] <Kilos> sad such and old hard working member never was pushed to get membership
[16:03] <pavlushka> If ther'e anyone?
[16:03] <ashabadi_> its all lost in the wild world web
[16:04] <ashabadi_> Kilos: I got busy with my work when the momentum died for Ubuntu loco in BD
[16:04] <pavlushka> ashabadi_, mine lost outside the wild world web, :p
[16:04] <Kilos> pavlushka that you get from the people you have helped and i will give a dhort one for your helping me and ask xubuntu guys too
[16:05] <Kilos> i will also ask belkie to give you one pavlushka
[16:05] <pavlushka> Kilos, they are lazy enough to switch to Windows just flashing pc when I was not there, all lost , almost.
[16:06] <Kilos> oh my
[16:06] <Kilos> and back to windows?
[16:06] <pavlushka> Kilos, why not? forget it.
[16:06] <Kilos> forget what?
[16:06] <pavlushka> I started all over again, :p
[16:06] <Kilos> your membership
[16:07] <pavlushka> Kilos, you keep it, :p
[16:07] <Kilos> keep what?
[16:07] <pavlushka> Kilos, i am okay with you guys.
[16:08] <Kilos> ive been here for months because you werent supported and ill help you get yours
[16:08] <Kilos> and ashabadi_ should get his
[16:09] <pavlushka> ashabadi_, its never a problem, I wiil sign a testimonial for you and you just have to breif about you as an Ubuntu user and..
[16:09] <Kilos> if it takes 6 months thats fine ashabadi_
[16:09] <pavlushka> ashabadi_, it will count, trust me, I am not that uselessm :p
[16:09] <Kilos> he has done much more than i did
[16:10] <Kilos> Researcher- is another one
[16:10] <ashabadi_> pavlushka: I never said you are useless
[16:10] <Kilos> even though he isnt in asia anymore
[16:10] <ashabadi_> your launchpad tells much more :)
[16:10] <Kilos> hi tareq_
[16:11] <tareq_> hi Kilos
[16:11] <ashabadi_> hello tareq_
[16:11] <ashabadi_> I guess you had prayed that I will be here online, instead of office
[16:12] <Kilos> lol
[16:12] <tareq_> lol
[16:12] <tareq_> I've posted in the group
[16:13] <pavlushka> tareq_,  noticed, nice and helpful with visu als
[16:13] <pavlushka> *visuals
[16:13] <ashabadi_> I've not seen it
[16:13] <ashabadi_> will check it :)
[16:14] <pavlushka> H AudaciousTUX!
[16:14] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX, your plan worked but you were not there to watch it, :p
[16:16] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX, and instead they befriended me, :p
[16:16] <Kilos> lol
[16:18] <pavlushka> দগদ
[16:18] <pavlushka> lol
[16:18] <AudaciousTUX> where?? i was not here....
[16:18] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX, arouund noon and afternoon
[16:19] <AudaciousTUX> uh... in irc??
[16:19] <pavlushka> yep
[16:19] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX, got my message?
[16:19] <pavlushka> from QA
[16:19] <AudaciousTUX> yah
[16:19] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX, but to start, it is perfect, :)
[16:21] <AudaciousTUX> yah.... many lazy people like me won't install irc client before they know what the hell this is
[16:22] <ashabadi_> sorry guys I'm a bit lost
[16:22] <pavlushka> Actually I am here all because of my Canon scanner was not working in linux, :p
[16:22] <ashabadi_> if you don't mind a bit tired, having a rough two days
[16:22] <Kilos> rest ashabadi_
[16:22] <pavlushka> ashabadi_, sure, its always nice to have you here, :p and even nicer when you leave, :p
[16:23] <Kilos> lol
[16:23] <Kilos> no man people must only leave when they go sleep
[16:23] <pavlushka> ashabadi_, I am lying about the 2nd part, :)
[16:24] <ashabadi_> Kilos: I like to be here
[16:24] <ashabadi_> now people are talking
[16:24] <ashabadi_> that's why staying
[16:24] <Kilos> great ashabadi_
[16:24] <ashabadi_> if it was dead none talking then I would have left
[16:24] <ashabadi_> btw having highs and lows last two days...
[16:24] <pavlushka> ashabadi_, but before going to sleep,please lose your tail, :p
[16:25] <Kilos> without irc users cannot even apply for membership
[16:25] <ashabadi_> was detained by police yesterday and today got awarded by CEO Bangladesh for top achiever team :P
[16:25] <Kilos> ubuntu was built on irc
[16:25] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX, you can check the logs to be sure, :p
[16:26] <pavlushka> ashabadi_, Congrats for both, :p
[16:26] <Kilos> why detained
[16:26] <pavlushka> Kilos, I guess late night, and what happens in BD stays in BD, :p
[16:27] <Kilos> haha
[16:27] <ashabadi_> no pavlushka not late night, it was 8.30 am
[16:28] <ashabadi_> was detained for taking photograph of police member taking a rest & talking on phone
[16:28] <pavlushka> ashabadi_, yep, that came to my mind as second, must be some other reason, may be just for harrasment, or bribe.
[16:28] <Kilos> congrats on top achiever ashabadi_ :D
[16:28] <Kilos> hahaha you guys get arrested easy hey
[16:29] <pavlushka> ashabadi, you rock bro.
[16:29] <ashabadi> actually Kilos we are sort of silent emergency right now
[16:29] <ashabadi> no media will say we are on nationwide emergency but we are
[16:29] <Kilos> ah troubled state same as here
[16:30] <ashabadi> they thought I was terrorist and taking picture of police...
[16:30] <pavlushka> Kilos, what's the update on that?
[16:30] <Kilos> there are siilar probs world wide
[16:30] <Kilos> similar
[16:31] <Kilos> guys in tunisia wont use telegram because isis used it when they blew up some places
[16:31] <ashabadi> was almost booked as terrorist, got released because one of my friend is high official in Bogra Police... and I had to involve my office to get me released
[16:31] <pavlushka> ashabadi, you still rock , yo yo
[16:31] <AudaciousTUX> i wonder why isis don't use irc :(
[16:31] <pavlushka> ashabadi, that's awesome....
[16:31] <Kilos> telegram is more secure
[16:31] <ashabadi> lol pavlushka.. up until 1pm I rocked, but when I was told I will be booked as terrorist I was not rocking anymore
[16:32] <AudaciousTUX> yah....
[16:32] <pavlushka> ashabadi, I was double checked as terro rist suspect but wasn't that lucky, :p
[16:32] <ashabadi> really so you got booked and released?
[16:32] <ashabadi> I should be careful talking to you now on irc :P
[16:33] <ashabadi> even this channel has log system :P
[16:33] <Kilos> hahaha
[16:33] <pavlushka> ashabadi, nah, not as lucky as you, I was released just after checking, :(
[16:34] <ashabadi> just after checking?
[16:34] <ashabadi> that means how many days you were detained?
[16:34] <ashabadi> you mean the other way around? you are not detained at all
[16:35] <pavlushka> nah, I was checked on the spot, its nothing.
[16:35] <ashabadi> hmm
[16:36] <pavlushka> there was some information of happenening something may be, so they were extra alert, and when they check , htey notice the expressions, I was happy.
[16:36] <pavlushka> lol
[16:37] <pavlushka> what? it wasn't that funny?
[16:38] <pavlushka> ok, not lol.
[16:38] <ashabadi> :)
[16:38] <ashabadi> yes it is
[16:38] <pavlushka> going for dinner, anyone else?
[16:38] <ashabadi> I hope you don't have beard though
[16:38] <ashabadi> and dont ride bike in number of 3 :)
[16:38] <pavlushka> ashabadi, unfortunately I do, :p
[16:39] <ashabadi> out of real concern
[16:39] <pavlushka> ashabadi, dont worry, when I'll ride, the 3rd one will drop off, :p
[16:40] <pavlushka> I even dropped the 2nd!
[16:40] <ashabadi> lol
[16:40] <ashabadi> :P
[16:52] <pavlushka> Hello NaSb
[16:53] <Kilos> hi NaSb
[16:53] <Kilos> i go eat in 5 mins
[16:53] <NaSb> pavlushka Kilos Hi,
[16:53] <NaSb> AudaciousTUX: Ping
[16:53] <pavlushka> NaSb, আস্সালামু আলাইকুম
[16:54] <ashabadi> btw pavlushka Kilos dont forget to offer membership scope to tareq_ as well
[16:54] <NaSb> pavlushka : ওয়া আলাইকুমুস সালাম :)
[16:54] <AudaciousTUX> hei sabbir vau
[16:54] <ashabadi> he had been contributing in the community areana for a bit period of time
[16:54] <NaSb> AudaciousTUX অনেক বছর পর পাইলাম
[16:54] <ashabadi> specially with documentation & trouble shooting to newbees
[16:54]  * pavlushka laughs
[16:54] <AudaciousTUX> amito shorbodai thaki :/
[16:55] <Kilos> pavlushka you have applied once, you know the ropes, you all get together and work on wiki pages and LP accounts
[16:55] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX, কইসে?
[16:55] <AudaciousTUX> eita korlen kemne :o pavlushka
[16:55] <NaSb> AudaciousTUX: হাহ্ কয়েকদিন ধইরা, সেটা আমি আর pavlushka ভাই জানি :p
[16:55] <ashabadi> AudaciousTUX: type /me your message
[16:55] <AudaciousTUX> :/
[16:55]  * ashabadi teaches AudaciousTUX how to use me
[16:55] <pavlushka> NaSb, actually AudaciousTUX is an old customer of here
[16:55]  * AudaciousTUX hello
[16:56] <AudaciousTUX> wow
[16:56] <ashabadi> normally it would be
[16:56]  * ashabadi says hello
[16:56] <ashabadi> :P
[16:56] <AudaciousTUX> yah... older than nasb
[16:56] <AudaciousTUX> oh :p
[16:56] <NaSb> pavlushka আমি জানি
[16:57] <pavlushka> and AudaciousTUX is in love with Nusha I guess
[16:57] <AudaciousTUX> yah <3
[16:57] <pavlushka> NaSb, but not regular as it seems, right?
[16:59] <AudaciousTUX> nasb er to kono activity e dekhina :3
[16:59] <pavlushka> Kilos, got you, tareq_ bhai, you just mail me your details, It was belkinsa who helped me on this at the first time, :)
[17:00] <NaSb> AudaciousTUX কি একটিভিটি দেখতে চান?
[17:00] <ashabadi> tareq_: is here? I think he is away
[17:00] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:00] <Kilos> be good
[17:00] <ashabadi> ok Kilos be back soon
[17:01] <AudaciousTUX> dance @nasb
[17:01] <pavlushka> belkinsa and Kilos put me together to appear in the meeting, otherwise I would not face that meeting, speaking my mind.
[17:02] <ashabadi> tareq_:  if you come please do knock me if I'm not asleep
[17:03] <ashabadi> pavlushka: AudaciousTUX tareq_ would like to discuss about path of loco activity in short on how we want to progress
[17:03] <pavlushka> ashabadi, sure, looking forward, :0
[17:04] <pavlushka> :)
[17:04] <ashabadi> let tareq_ come
[17:04] <tareq_> here I am
[17:04] <ashabadi> either tareq_ comes first or I go to sleep
[17:04] <ashabadi> which ever comes first
[17:04] <ashabadi> since tareq_ is here..
[17:04] <tareq_> what was the topic
[17:05] <ashabadi> nothing tareq_ an informal discussion regarding reviving loco?
[17:05] <tareq_> loco is not active right now
[17:05] <ashabadi> Ekushey:
[17:05] <ashabadi> yes I know tareq_
[17:05] <ashabadi> from my past experience I want to discuss why our loco team died
[17:05] <tareq_> I have a soft corner for this community
[17:06] <tareq_> you can
[17:06] <ashabadi> mainly 2 issue... 1) we did not have enough technical hand available to provide solution at the first instant people came for support
[17:06] <tareq_> okay
[17:07] <pavlushka> ashabadi, and ?
[17:07] <ashabadi> 2) we did not have structured work manner with regard to mailing list management/event management
[17:08] <ashabadi> also the control of community was not at hand of community itself... its sad that we failed to create enough volunteers/leaders who will take over in absence of any of the leaders/voluteers
[17:08] <AudaciousTUX> and maybe 3rd ... community venge geche...
[17:08] <ashabadi> the community died because Linux forum was shut down
[17:08] <tareq_> come on
[17:08] <ashabadi> I wonder why we could not create another linux forum?
[17:08] <ashabadi> what stop us?
[17:09] <AudaciousTUX> i'm currently working on the same thing
[17:09] <ashabadi> community fraction could have been managed if we were working in a structured way
[17:09] <AudaciousTUX> i was talking about this....
[17:09] <ashabadi> AudaciousTUX: working on linux forum?
[17:09] <AudaciousTUX> iah
[17:09] <AudaciousTUX> yah*
[17:09] <ashabadi> I think before working on linux forum we need to work on documentation site
[17:10] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX, we live to rise,
[17:10] <tareq_> we need a structure
[17:10] <tareq_> that is true
[17:10] <AudaciousTUX> documentation like arch wiki??
[17:10] <ashabadi> I think the facebook page is quite active... we shall target on documenting the problems people post & their solution on different site
[17:10] <ashabadi> that is searchable
[17:10] <ashabadi> it could be forum/ it could be website
[17:10] <pavlushka> tareq_,  agrred
[17:10] <ashabadi> and yes website is a must..
[17:11] <ashabadi> since I bought hosting for my personal blog I can assign hosting space
[17:11] <pavlushka> ashabadi, point
[17:11] <ashabadi> its not an issue
[17:11] <AudaciousTUX> helping in fb group is not much practical...
[17:11] <tareq_> i think it is high time to reassign the team
[17:11] <AudaciousTUX> yah
[17:11] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX,  yep, same question, same problem again and agian
[17:11] <AudaciousTUX> yah
[17:11] <ashabadi> to get structured we can work on the basic guideline that tareq_ set
[17:12] <ashabadi> atleast first point to meet in irc
[17:12] <pavlushka> ashabadi, agreed
[17:12] <tareq_> we need to meet regularly
[17:12] <AudaciousTUX> for example the font problem... i'm so much tired that i've made a blog in my own website...
[17:12] <ashabadi> also I would reutter the importance of meeting face to facce
[17:12] <ashabadi> even if not to discuss program event, atleast to build bonding
[17:12] <tareq_> i have an idea
[17:12] <AudaciousTUX> adnan sir's ubuntu installation blog is quite old... and has some bugs
[17:12] <pavlushka> better.
[17:12] <ashabadi> so that disagreements/fractions can be managed as friend
[17:13] <tareq_> we can meet at different places
[17:13] <AudaciousTUX> and fb group is now bunded with only ubuntu and derivatives....
[17:13] <tareq_> like different corners of city
[17:13] <AudaciousTUX> yah
[17:13] <pavlushka> issues for me as i m from panchagarh, :(
[17:14] <tareq_> dhanmondi, uttara, gulshan, puran dhaka etc
[17:14] <ashabadi> AudaciousTUX: we have to start working on one derivative first
[17:14] <ashabadi> we can't have expert in all the distro
[17:14] <pavlushka> ashabadi, point
[17:14] <tareq_> so that everybody can meet
[17:14] <ashabadi> pavlushka: that's not an issue... you can arrange friends to meet there too
[17:14] <AudaciousTUX> they're all same in end...
[17:15] <ashabadi> tareq_: I'm not talking about buntu/mintu adda or anything formalised
[17:15] <ashabadi> it should be informal
[17:15] <ashabadi> just to hang out
[17:15] <AudaciousTUX> yah
[17:15] <tareq_> yea
[17:15] <ashabadi> if you can give time to people interested in Ubuntu
[17:15] <AudaciousTUX> in a open place
[17:15] <pavlushka> ashabadi, but I have been to the 16.04 release party arranged by FOSS
[17:15] <ashabadi> then you can give time to volunteer
[17:15] <ashabadi> great pavlushka :)
[17:15] <tareq_> my preference towards
[17:15] <AudaciousTUX> u was there?? pav
[17:16] <tareq_> ubuntu
[17:16] <tareq_> we have enough idea on that
[17:16] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX, yes, and you were supposed be there too, as you were mentioned
[17:17] <AudaciousTUX> i attended bdosn party and that was too much boring...
[17:17] <ashabadi> I don't want to focus our loco activity around arranging release parties/awareness program anymore
[17:17] <ashabadi> rather on creating experts & documentation
[17:17] <AudaciousTUX> and i had coaching
[17:17] <tareq_> we should be open minded, but I don't know much about other distros like centos, gentoo
[17:17] <pavlushka> ashabadi, just for the record,
[17:18] <tareq_> ashabadi: your idea is great
[17:18] <AudaciousTUX> me too.... only used antergos, mint, ubuntu derivatives
[17:18] <tareq_> we need more experts
[17:18] <ashabadi> if we have enough expert to help people at the first instance of trouble or documents to share to new bees for to resolve their problems then it would be easier to convert people to linux
[17:18] <pavlushka> tareq_, why not what ashabadi is awarded for then?
[17:19] <ashabadi> ?? did not get what pavlushka said?
[17:19] <tareq_> ??
[17:20] <pavlushka> ashabadi, 's idea's are good as tareq_ said, I said of course, he is awarded as the best CEO I guess
[17:20] <ashabadi> best ceo?
[17:20] <ashabadi> I'm not a company head
[17:20] <ashabadi> I said my team was awarded as top contributor by country ceo :P
[17:20] <ashabadi> I might have typed wrong
[17:21] <AudaciousTUX> i'm coming in 5 min
[17:21] <ashabadi> I was saying that cause how people's live change from low to high & high to low
[17:21] <ashabadi> it has nothing to do with what I'm discussing
[17:21] <tareq_> i would like to contribute in documentation
[17:22] <tareq_> my comfort zone :)
[17:22] <ashabadi> and it is not something I want to boost on/or promote on
[17:22] <ashabadi> sure tareq_ we need more hand in documentation
[17:23] <ashabadi> as I said we need volunteers in every field
[17:23] <tareq_> ashabadi: what is your suggestion on survey
[17:23] <ashabadi> tareq_: it can be done in second phase when we have enough volunteers
[17:23] <tareq_> I'm not that much specialist but I know enough to help noobs
[17:24] <tareq_> technological parts
[17:24] <ashabadi> currently how many volunteers we have to tell the truth?
[17:24] <ashabadi> I don't see more than 5 hands
[17:24] <tareq_> make a number
[17:24] <tareq_> you, me we are from old days
[17:25] <tareq_> what about new bloods
[17:25] <ashabadi> AudaciousTUX: Ekushey adnan pavlushka tareq_ raihan
[17:25] <AudaciousTUX> their are more
[17:25] <ashabadi> among them Ekushey & adnan can give time online only
[17:26] <AudaciousTUX> there*
[17:26] <ashabadi> that leaves only 3 member... how far do you think we can go if we can't have volunteers?
[17:26] <tareq_> I can meet with adnan bhai in person
[17:26] <ashabadi> sure AudaciousTUX I would like to get them involved
[17:26] <tareq_> all of them are not fond of IRC
[17:27] <ashabadi> tareq_: to tell the truth even if we meet to hold discussion fact is we are too busy with other stuff that we can't contribute actively
[17:27] <AudaciousTUX> yah... that's the problem
[17:27] <ashabadi> I have talked with Adnan bhai long regarding this
[17:27] <AudaciousTUX> and i'm working on that too.... :p
[17:27] <ashabadi> I know he can't contribute personally, even on fridays
[17:27] <tareq_> ahh, research and family
[17:27] <ashabadi> AudaciousTUX: working silently won't give much result
[17:28] <ashabadi> you may think you have all of it under control/under plan but it can all go awry
[17:28] <AudaciousTUX> talking about me or other??
[17:28] <ashabadi> anyway please do share your plan AudaciousTUX on how you plan you have experts & volunteers
[17:29] <ashabadi> I'm talking about you AudaciousTUX
[17:29] <AudaciousTUX> i don't even have any prototype to show now....
[17:29] <ashabadi> working silently on linux forum/and creating volunteer group
[17:29] <ashabadi> lol AudaciousTUX don't think it too complex
[17:29] <tareq_> just think
[17:29] <ashabadi> you don't even know whether people will be interested or not in another linux forum or not
[17:30] <AudaciousTUX> not to complex.... just inspired by the techtunes policy
[17:30] <tareq_> forum is not a good idea
[17:30] <ashabadi> so don't give much effort in something that you don't know will work or not
[17:30] <tareq_> 2nd life of LIFO was flop
[17:30] <ashabadi> I don't even know lifo had 2nd life :P
[17:30] <AudaciousTUX> russel vai ruined all lifo data... -_-
[17:30] <tareq_> facebook is a great place to gather people
[17:31] <tareq_> 12k+ in one group
[17:31] <tareq_> can you imagine
[17:31] <tareq_> but <10 persons are active
[17:31] <ashabadi> tareq_: why don't you put a post in that you need volunteers to copy facebook contents to a blog post
[17:31] <tareq_> most of them are inactive
[17:31] <AudaciousTUX> i'm working on blog.... russel vai er kotha shuina forum er kaj bondho rakhchi
[17:32] <ashabadi> I don't think you will find much people in reality helping out
[17:32] <ashabadi> many will show interest at first but will remain silent when you need them most
[17:32] <tareq_> very much true
[17:32] <ashabadi> AudaciousTUX: if you are building blog then why you are making it too complex?
[17:33] <ashabadi> just open a blog in wordpress/joomla
[17:33] <ashabadi> enable posting by users & have the contents reviewed/approved by one of the admins
[17:33] <ashabadi> its that simple
[17:33] <ashabadi> don't think too complex of a site
[17:33] <ashabadi> don't think of techtune brother
[17:34] <ashabadi> techtune is a joke to many people now a days
[17:34] <tareq_> lol
[17:34] <tareq_> dhekitune
[17:34] <AudaciousTUX> there 're too many blog sites.... i'm just making a platform whwere everyone can submit their blog.... create series of blogs..... and if the blog quality looks fine than take that to a new category
[17:34] <tareq_> wordpress blog is enough
[17:35] <ashabadi> people can do that in single blog too
[17:35] <AudaciousTUX> techtunes e onek faul faul blog content ache.... content management ta thik moto kora lagbe
[17:35] <AudaciousTUX> not in one place
[17:35] <ashabadi> that's what I am saying
[17:35] <ashabadi> you can arrange blog post by category
[17:35] <AudaciousTUX> i'm working on wordpress
[17:35] <ashabadi> even in simple wordpress
[17:36] <ashabadi> so you don't have to think about techtune
[17:36] <AudaciousTUX> i'm just making a good theme for that.... and series post can be helpful
[17:36] <tareq_> brb
[17:37] <ashabadi> ok AudaciousTUX best of luck :)
[17:38] <ashabadi> so once we have that contributor site we can start working on the content building
[17:38] <pavlushka> ashabadi, so what you were saying?
[17:38] <pavlushka> ok
[17:38] <ashabadi> we will need volunteers to contribute the blog with solutions
[17:38] <pavlushka> copy
[17:38] <ashabadi> even copy paste from facebook it self
[17:39] <ashabadi> our primary concern is build a database in Bangla
[17:39] <ashabadi> when we have a large content database then we will move on creating new users
[17:40] <AudaciousTUX> russel vai told me about english blog .... he's tired of bangalis "nemokharami" :p :v
[17:40] <ashabadi> unless people are given solution to their problem readily they won't stick to linux they will go back to windows
[17:41] <ashabadi> now a days I am even impatient to fix my problems in linux
[17:41] <ashabadi> I just install different application
[17:41] <ashabadi> even till now I've not managed to work on kmail
[17:41] <pavlushka> hmm
[17:41] <ashabadi> I've installed thunderbird
[17:41] <ashabadi> because I'm lazy and searching for 3 hours did not give me proper resolution
[17:41]  * pavlushka :p
[17:42] <ashabadi> if I were a new user I would have moved to windows and to outlook
[17:42] <ashabadi> even for thunderbird I needed 2 days trying to configure pop3
[17:42] <ashabadi> I failed
[17:43] <ashabadi> and am using imap
[17:43] <pavlushka> ashabadi, imap is better
[17:43] <ashabadi> I needed backup of my emails in my local pc
[17:43] <ashabadi> imap does not download email automatically
[17:44] <pavlushka> ashabadi, not every free mail server supports pop3 also.
[17:44] <ashabadi> atleast google does
[17:44] <ashabadi> google pop3 did not configure in thunderbird
[17:44] <pavlushka> ashabadi,  they will let you when you pay.
[17:44] <pavlushka> hmm
[17:45] <Kilos> i have mail accounts at yahoo gmail live.com and all work on thunderbird with pop
[17:45] <ashabadi> I had worked with pop earlier in 2010 with google
[17:45] <Kilos> you missing some simple thing ashabadi
[17:45] <ashabadi> so I don't know whether they have switched policy or not
[17:46] <ashabadi> yes Kilos?
[17:46] <Kilos> i have 2 google accounts and both work
[17:46] <AudaciousTUX> brb
[17:46] <ashabadi> hmm Kilos don't know I followed every steps I could found googling
[17:46] <ashabadi> and they are not tough to configure as far as I can remember from 2010
[17:46] <Kilos> maybe there is a #thunderbird channel where they have experts
[17:46] <ashabadi> but they did not authenticate
[17:46] <pavlushka> one thing,  I use Imap settings and when I am offline, I can open the downloaded mails, so its there on the disk.
[17:47] <ashabadi> I have given up trying Kilos
[17:47] <Kilos> yeah spending time struggling is frustrating
[17:47] <ashabadi> pavlushka: you have to download the email first manually selecting the email
[17:47] <ashabadi> then it will show contents offline
[17:48] <ashabadi> its not downloaded automatically when email is sent to your primary gmail account
[17:48] <pavlushka> ashabadi, yes, I choose that intentionally for my disk space,
[17:48] <ashabadi> anyway that's another topic
[17:48] <ashabadi> as I was saying, build a content database
[17:49] <ashabadi> that you can easily refer to people for problem solving
[17:49] <ashabadi> just like we did earlier with apro & lifo
[17:49] <pavlushka> I open which are important, or of use, and they remain in the disk, I dont need all I think.
[17:49] <pavlushka> ashabadi, ok, keep going.
[17:49] <pavlushka> on what you were saying
[17:50] <ashabadi> so it is easier for new members
[17:50] <ashabadi> and they don't think that they have to google for hours or wait for experts to reply to their posts
[17:50] <ashabadi> queries
[17:50] <pavlushka> hmm
[17:51] <ashabadi> and then we can have volunteers staying in irc too helping member find solution in content database
[17:51] <ashabadi> since they are helping with same issue over and over
[17:51] <ashabadi> they will get acquinted with the content
[17:51] <ashabadi> also we will have to steal from #ubuntu channel
[17:51] <ashabadi> :P
[17:52] <ashabadi> even if we don't have answer to the problem we will ask the same query to ubuntu channel
[17:52] <ashabadi> on behalf of he people who is facing problem
[17:52] <pavlushka> ashabadi, the point is if they got what they need from the portal, why would they come here on irc?
[17:52] <ashabadi> to make it look like we are actually finding the answer for them
[17:53] <ashabadi> theoratically you can't have wikipedia of all the problems people can have
[17:53] <ashabadi> there will be problems that people are facing for the first time and not in the content
[17:53] <pavlushka> ashabadi, yes, that's the point, taken humbly.
[17:54] <ashabadi> for that we will need to have experts here in IRC
[17:54] <ashabadi> thats where my point come in as stealing answer from #ubuntu channel
[17:54] <tareq_> some problems are weird
[17:54] <tareq_> all are not common problems
[17:55] <ashabadi> if you send away member asking help in #ubuntu-bd channel that you don't know the solution go ask in #ubuntu channel then why people will remain in #ubuntu-bd channel? they may rather remain in #ubuntu channel
[17:56] <ashabadi> that's my two priority right now
[17:56] <ashabadi> you may think otherwise
[17:56] <Kilos> wise move
[17:56] <ashabadi> and discussions are always welcome to improve the loco community
[17:57] <ashabadi> I'm not interested in creating new users via so called release party (which is in fact has turned into promotional event rather than release party)
[17:57] <ashabadi> unless I have option to provide solution to the new users
[17:57] <ashabadi> just like any tech company
[17:58] <ashabadi> if I don't have experts to provide support/service to the clients, clients won't remain with my service and they will bad mouth give poor rating to my company and leave for competitor product
[17:58] <tareq_> we can provide certificate based courses
[17:58] <ashabadi> we cant do that for free
[17:59] <ashabadi> I don't want to walk in a path that will tell people we are in a business of making money
[17:59] <tareq_> yea, even buet taking money for ubuntu course
[18:00] <ashabadi> and there are limited scope in teaching ubuntu certified experts...
[18:00] <pavlushka_>  ashabadi, ok, the idea is to minimize the hassel, and for the rest to solve, there's  #ubuntu-bd or #ubuntu
[18:00] <ashabadi> we can have RHCE because company understand this certificate only... how many company understand ubuntu certified expert?
[18:01] <ashabadi> pavlushka_: the idea is to give the community a face
[18:01] <ashabadi> an entity
[18:01] <pavlushka_> ashabadi, #ubuntu-bd is necessary to keep the official LoCO stucture? its another reason we should keep in mind I guess.
[18:01] <ashabadi> like we are live community, we have website we have content database, we have active volunteers
[18:01] <ashabadi> please stay with our product
[18:01] <ashabadi> :P
[18:02] <tareq_> website is down, what about that
[18:02] <ashabadi> pavlushka_:  I'm not saying that we should move to #ubuntu
[18:02] <ashabadi> I am saying keep the person who is asking for solution in #ubuntu-bd channel and repeat same problem/query in #ubuntu channel on behalf of the original person
[18:03] <ashabadi> and once you get solution in #ubuntu channel repeat the solution in #ubuntu-bd channel
[18:03] <ashabadi> as if you are giving solution from experts from #ubuntu-bd channel
[18:03] <tareq_> and we shoul keep this in docs
[18:03] <pavlushka> ashabadi, yes
[18:03] <pavlushka> :পি
[18:03] <ashabadi> yes
[18:04] <ashabadi> and all problem/ssolution we have will need documentation
[18:04] <pavlushka> tareq_, it will go up soon
[18:04] <ashabadi> I think log is there to help
[18:04] <ashabadi> we will only need some effort with formatting
[18:04] <ashabadi> :P
[18:04] <ashabadi> proof reading & cleaning
[18:04] <pavlushka> yes
[18:04] <ashabadi> give it a face... that's only thing I am saying
[18:04] <tareq_> i'm thinking about vblog
[18:05] <pavlushka> we will check on logs to extract new issues and keep trac
[18:05] <ashabadi> if we can show people that its a lively community then people will stay here
[18:05] <ashabadi> just like people are staying on facebook group
[18:05] <tareq_> irc is not populer platform yet
[18:05] <ashabadi> I don't even like irc to be frank
[18:06] <tareq_> lol
[18:06] <ashabadi> irc does not have any way to show screenshot
[18:06] <ashabadi> to provide command output
[18:06] <tareq_> but where to discuss?
[18:06] <pavlushka> yeah, we have people like ashabadi, AudaciousTUX, and tareq_
[18:06] <pavlushka> sorry
[18:06] <pavlushka> there is way
[18:06] <tareq_> hangout?
[18:06] <tareq_> forum?
[18:07] <ashabadi> sure pavlushka tell me?
[18:08] <pavlushka> paste.ubuntu for logs
[18:08] <pavlushka> imgur for sceenshots
[18:08] <pavlushka> its official
[18:08] <ashabadi> tareq_: we can still provide solution in facebook
[18:08] <pavlushka> and give the link to us, we will check on it and give solution,
[18:08] <ashabadi> pavlushka: you will go to two different site but will an average user do it?
[18:08] <ashabadi> I know I will not do it
[18:09] <ashabadi> I know pavlushka of those method
[18:09] <ashabadi> but are they user friendly? are they enough to keep the people on irc?
[18:09] <pavlushka> tareq_, and to discuss, irc is best, the decisions of Ubuntu takes place on #ubuntu-meeting,
[18:09] <pavlushka> so why not  for us in here at #ubuntu-bd
[18:09] <ashabadi> they are discussions, not problem solvings
[18:10] <tareq_> facebook is very good platform, honestly saying
[18:10] <ashabadi> irc is dying for a reason
[18:10] <ashabadi> we will still have our discussion here
[18:10] <tareq_> yes
[18:11] <tareq_> even in telegram
[18:11] <ashabadi> irc will be base for planning/discussions/gossiping
[18:11] <pavlushka> ashabadi, but a fact is irc is strong in europe!
[18:11] <pavlushka> look at #ubuntu-de
[18:12] <tareq_> whatever it is, I'm with ashabadi
[18:12] <tareq_> irc is good for us, but not for all
[18:12] <tareq_> for common guys, facebook is enough
[18:13] <pavlushka> :)
[18:13] <pavlushka> me too.
[18:13] <pavlushka> tareq_, agreed
[18:13] <tareq_> i like both
[18:13] <tareq_> after the long gap, telegram plays a role to bring me back
[18:14] <ashabadi> pavlushka: do you know how many problems are solved in #ubuntu channel in last day?
[18:15] <pavlushka> ashabadi, I am not differring much, just dont get pissed off, sorry
[18:15] <tareq_> no idea
[18:15] <ashabadi> I'm not pissed off... I am just stating the fact
[18:15] <pavlushka> ashabadi, I can tell you checking the logs, My few problem solved in #ubuntu
[18:17] <pavlushka> and I even help in #xubuntu
[18:17] <ashabadi> good pavlushka cause I dont see much of problem solved in #kubuntu channel
[18:17] <ashabadi> its sleeping just like #ubuntu-bd channel
[18:17] <pavlushka> ashabadi, yes, that is a specific case, I am there too.
[18:17] <ashabadi> anyway..
[18:18] <ashabadi> we can still have irc as base
[18:18] <ashabadi> we can invite people to hang out
[18:18] <ashabadi> to gossip
[18:18] <pavlushka> ashabadi, please go ahead, dont mind me.
[18:18] <ashabadi> hell we can have fun interview over here on irc
[18:18] <tareq_> yes
[18:18] <pavlushka> ok
[18:19] <ashabadi> I remember we had few such sessions in #ubuntu-loco channel
[18:19] <pavlushka> aha
[18:19] <tareq_> old days
[18:19] <ashabadi> :)
[18:20] <ashabadi> anyway lets start working on base website
[18:20]  * pavlushka to arms for base website
[18:21] <ashabadi> why don't you guys plan/sketch the design outline for base website?
[18:21] <ashabadi> you can take idea from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BangladeshiTeam
[18:22] <ashabadi> you can make different pages for each of the segments/links
[18:22] <ashabadi> any way you like
[18:22] <pavlushka> ashabadi, we will add our idea's , you finalize it, the decision is uyours
[18:22] <ashabadi> then once its finalised launch it
[18:22] <pavlushka> *yours
[18:23] <tareq_> www.ubuntu-bd.org
[18:23] <ashabadi> pavlushka: community wont grow if you can't take decision yourself
[18:23] <pavlushka>  tareq_ bhai , what do you say?
[18:23] <tareq_> I think we can start with a common wordpress blog
[18:23] <ashabadi> if we remain stagnent just because I did not reply to your query or Ekushey did not answer you how will community grow?
[18:23] <ashabadi> you have to take decisions yourselves after a common discussion :)
[18:24] <tareq_> we have to be respectful with each other
[18:24] <tareq_> I did the same thing
[18:24] <tareq_> posted my plan :P
[18:24] <ashabadi> I am not saying you disrespect other's importance or other's idea or opinion
[18:24] <ashabadi> just keep the momentum grow
[18:25] <pavlushka> ashabadi, copu that
[18:25] <pavlushka> copy that
[18:25] <ashabadi> if you create enough ripple then tide will grow
[18:25] <tareq_> yes, but for some reason you need modu
[18:25]  * Kilos happy. action in bd
[18:25] <ashabadi> you dont need modu for creating a blog
[18:25] <ashabadi> or face
[18:25] <ashabadi> you can do it yourself
[18:26] <ashabadi> ofcourse you may need approval/help from moderator/admin to make it official
[18:26] <tareq_> but you know all users are not suitable for the blog post
[18:26] <pavlushka> tareq_, copy that too
[18:26] <pavlushka> Ok , working on it, need some time, 3 days I guess.
[18:26] <ashabadi> but I don't think any admin/moderator will give you vetto for creating a good webpage
[18:26] <ashabadi> when we don't have one
[18:27] <ashabadi> ohh yes tareq_
[18:27] <ashabadi> we won't open it to public at first go
[18:27] <ashabadi> not even in 3 days
[18:27] <tareq_> facebook group is the solid example
[18:27] <ashabadi> we may build it for 1 month with contents as I said earlier
[18:27] <tareq_> hmm
[18:28] <tareq_> i will write some doc on kubuntu
[18:28] <ashabadi> we will open posting solution for members for only a handful of volunteers
[18:28] <ashabadi> we will test the output/typing skills of these volunteers first to give them access
[18:28]  * pavlushka thinks it is a good idea
[18:29] <tareq_> we can make two version of it
[18:29] <ashabadi> we may post in the facebook that we are trying to revive the loco community and need volunteers to help
[18:29] <tareq_> bangla and english
[18:29] <ashabadi> I think out of 12k members we may be lucky enough to find atleast 12 members
[18:30] <tareq_> ha ha
[18:30] <tareq_> hope is the fuel
[18:30] <ashabadi> I'll try to get hold of adnan bhai/ekushey before we post it in the facebook group
[18:30] <pavlushka> ashabadi, tareq_, you know already some skillful volunteers I guess, like AudaciousTUX
[18:30] <pavlushka> and...
[18:30] <tareq_> yea
[18:31] <tareq_> but one is not enough
[18:31] <pavlushka> wont be a bad start I guess
[18:31] <tareq_> we need more like tanjim
[18:31] <ashabadi> pavlushka: how many? I already told I can think of only 5 members, out of which 2 are already sleeping
[18:31] <tareq_> ohh
[18:31] <pavlushka> yeah, post it in ubuntu-fb, we will have more.
[18:31] <ashabadi> for that I will discuss with Adnan bhai/ Ekushey / raihan
[18:31] <ashabadi> first
[18:32] <pavlushka> +1
[18:32] <ashabadi> I will try to have this discussion tomorrow
[18:32] <tareq_> +1
[18:32] <tareq_> where is raihan btw
[18:32] <tareq_> he was active earlier
[18:35] <pavlushka> Kilos, help us having meetings hosted by QA and keeping that log
[18:35] <tareq_> we can make some tutorials on various topics
[18:36] <Kilos> will do, we can ask inetpro to help us
[18:36] <Kilos> atm superfly is hosting her
[18:37] <pavlushka> Kilos, like you people do in #ubuntu-za
[18:37] <pavlushka> ashabadi, tareq_ are you guys ok with that?
[18:37] <pavlushka> sorry I should have asked earlier
[18:37] <Kilos> the are a few commands to remember
[18:37] <ashabadi> what's the benefit of using qa as log instead of irc log?
[18:37] <tareq_> I have no problem
[18:37] <Kilos> things like QA_ start meeting
[18:37] <Kilos> ai!
[18:37] <Kilos> QA_ change nick to QA
[18:37] <QA> Kilos: Changing nick to QA
[18:38] <pavlushka> ashabadi, you will have the issues sorted, not mixed up with other discussion and you will not need to extract the meeting content from the whol;e log
[18:39] <pavlushka> ashabadi, meeting will be held on specific topic
[18:40] <tareq_> that would be formal than
[18:40] <Kilos> you set up an agenda for your meetings
[18:40] <ashabadi> I'm not hopeful of finding too many volunteers from facebook group to be frank
[18:40] <pavlushka> tareq_, yes, that's the idea
[18:40] <Kilos> similar to http://bit.ly/1TxD2JQ
[18:40] <tareq_> ashabadi: same here
[18:41] <tareq_> ok, guys
[18:42] <tareq_> it was a great start
[18:42] <tareq_> I'm going to have some sleep
[18:42] <tareq_> good night
[18:42] <Kilos> night tareq_
[18:43] <pavlushka> ashabadi, atleast we can try, :) and you are the ashabadi
[18:44] <pavlushka> ashabadi, you there?
[18:44] <ashabadi> humm
[18:45] <ashabadi> I'm trying to send group private message to admin of fb group
[18:45] <ashabadi> but not finding way to include member who are not my friends
[18:45] <pavlushka> good
[18:50] <ashabadi> pavlushka: I'm asha & badi
[18:50] <ashabadi> I'm truly an realist instead of dreamer
[18:51] <ashabadi> I know there won't be 12 volunteers out of these 12k members
[18:51] <ashabadi> none is willing to give that much time now a days
[18:51] <pavlushka> ashabadi, realist is better
[18:51] <ashabadi> they have classes/friends/meetups/games/girlfriends to give time to
[18:52] <ashabadi> instead of staying up night after night and trying to contribute in Ubuntu community
[18:52] <pavlushka> a realist plans, doesn't dream, and if plans fails, he/she understands
[18:53] <ashabadi> realistically I'm even afraid whether this enthusiasm of Tareq & Tanjim will remain for much long too
[18:53] <ashabadi> anyway
[18:53] <ashabadi> only time will say
[18:53] <ashabadi> lets see and hope for the best
[18:53] <ashabadi> I need to sign off now
[18:53] <pavlushka> yes, time will say
[18:53] <pavlushka> Goodnight ashabadi
[18:54] <ashabadi> I think my wife won't be happy that I have been on pc since evening and not giving any time to her
[18:54] <ashabadi> I wonder how Kilos manage
[18:54]  * pavlushka laughs
[18:54] <ashabadi> any tips Kilos on how to manage life?
[18:56] <pavlushka> I know Kilos can manage sheep, and ubuntu-community but dont know what else.
[18:56] <Kilos> haha
[18:56] <Kilos> ive been divorced tice
[18:56] <Kilos> twice
[18:57] <ashabadi> hmm then not a good source to seek tips I guess.. no offense
[18:57] <pavlushka> twice? man i didn't even got married!
[18:57] <ashabadi> Kilos:  you are brave enough to try it second time
[18:57] <pavlushka> though benn refused many times, :p
[18:57] <Kilos> lol
[18:57] <ashabadi> did not know you propose other to marry you in day time
[18:58] <pavlushka> ashabadi, yeah, but you got me, :(
[18:59] <pavlushka> ashabadi, dont tell anybody, keep it within the logs, :p
[19:00] <ashabadi> logs are public you know
[19:00] <ashabadi> searching pavlushka will show what you do on free time
[19:00] <ashabadi> :P
[19:00] <pavlushka> :p
[19:02] <pavlushka> ashabadi, Kilos it was actually like I was late in approach, they got engaged formally or informally, :p
[19:02] <pavlushka> হা কপাল | hard luck
[19:03] <ashabadi> humm
[19:03] <ashabadi> good night guys
[19:03] <pavlushka> good the night ashabadi
[19:03]  * ashabadi yawns and waves at Kilos & pavlushka
[19:04] <Kilos> night guys, sleep well
[19:04] <Kilos> tomorrow is another day
[19:04] <pavlushka> Kilos, good night, will tell you about my  heart breaks later in details, :p
[19:05] <Kilos> ok
[19:05] <Kilos> haha