[00:00] <SoulofAeons> Hello everyone!
[00:02] <Toxtlo> Hi, is it possible to encrypt the hard drive 'after' I already installed ubuntu? or do I have to reinstall and enable encryption?
[00:03] <Seek> do you guys have any tips on how to make my games run better?
[00:04] <tgm4883> Toxtlo: I think reinstall. You can do the home directory after install, but not the whole drive
[00:05] <Toxtlo> mhh ok, is this "secure" or can I get a better method of encrypting my whole hard drive?
[00:06] <AmazingAlex224> hi
[00:06] <Seek> dont thay have that in the ubuntu installer
[00:06] <Seek> yo
[00:07] <AmazingAlex224> ok so i have a intel atom processor, and like a 32 bit shell, is there any way to get a 64 bit shell using a 32 bit shell? like efi shells
[00:07] <AmazingAlex224> im using shell because when i go to boot manager and try to boot up a dif os it goes right to window
[00:07] <AmazingAlex224> windows 10*
[00:08] <AmazingAlex224> i mean i dont "need" 64 bit but it would be nice to have for extra ram on java
[00:08] <lordcirth> AmazingAlex224, is your Atom 32 or 64bit?
[00:08] <tgm4883> Seek: It's secure enough for most uses
[00:08] <Jordan_U> AmazingAlex224: So you have a 64 bit processor on a motherboard with 32 bit UEFI firmware?
[00:08] <OerHeks> LOLz "i mean i dont "need" 64 bit but it would be nice to have for extra ram on java" ... are you for real AmazingAlex224 ??
[00:08] <AmazingAlex224> on windows it says x64 architecture
[00:08] <AmazingAlex224> but the manufactor but a 32bit shell on it
[00:09] <lordcirth> AmazingAlex224, a 32bit EFI shell?
[00:09] <AmazingAlex224> yes
[00:09]  * YankDownUnder thinks it's time to change undies...
[00:09] <Seek> AmazingAlex224 ok so is ubuntu installed to you computer or is it on a virualbox
[00:09] <OerHeks> 32 bit cannot run 64 bit  shells
[00:10] <AmazingAlex224> its not installed on my tablet but i have it on my main pc
[00:10] <Seek> that happen to me when i was on windows so i installed ubuntu as my main operrater
[00:10] <GnomeKris> this guy has the same gpu as mine, and had to bypass hdmi audio entirely...I'm hoping this isn't the solution
[00:10] <GnomeKris> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321631
[00:11] <Seek> you might need to change it in you bios
[00:11] <Seek> and allow accses to us it for 64 bit
[00:11] <AmazingAlex224> i feel like i have a downgraded bios like it only has 3 tabs
[00:12] <jamie_1> is it possible to install a daily build and have it update as its changed or like daily if i pleased?
[00:12] <AmazingAlex224> only fast boot
[00:12] <Jordan_U> AmazingAlex224: You're not going to be able to get 64 bit UEFI, but it is possible to run a 64 bit kernel with 32 bit UEFI. I don't know how well supported such a configuration is in Ubuntu.
[00:12] <pushpop> Hi All, I just installed Ubuntu 16.04 and I'm trying to get the right video card drivers installed to play Steam games.  I have the following video card => http://pastebin.com/aTRRZLbb  I've been trying to get the right drivers installed for hours.  Any suggestions?
[00:12] <AmazingAlex224> what is ur video card
[00:12] <pushpop> AmazingAlex224, see pastebin
[00:12] <Jordan_U> jamie_1: For daily development builds of Ubuntu ask in #ubuntu+1 .
[00:13] <jamie_1> thanks Jordan_U
[00:13] <pushpop> AmazingAlex224, [Radeon HD 7970/8970 OEM / R9 280X]
[00:13] <Jordan_U> jamie_1: You're welcome.
[00:13] <OerHeks> pushpop, if it was suitable, it would load the latest AMDgpu driver, opensource.
[00:14] <Seek> did you allow them when you installed ubuntu? it will ask if you want to install 3rd party stuff like drivers
[00:14] <pushpop> I never received such prompt.
[00:14] <Seek> and a good recorder/steaming tool is obs and you can get it for all os's
[00:15] <OerHeks> pushpop, see the releasenotes
[00:15] <Drone4four> my system hangs for ~90 seconds at boot with some message indicating a problem with usb 3-9: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[00:15] <Drone4four> what could be my issue? http://pastebin.com/e8dUrUCR
[00:16] <pushpop> OerHeks, what release notes?
[00:16] <Drone4four> that's my paste bin
[00:16] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#fglrx
[00:16] <OerHeks> pushpop, ^^
[00:17] <Steven_M> Bashing-om: YankDownUnder: Sorry, yeah, I downloaded the package from Brother's web site. The drivers didn't work with my scanner, so now I want the package off my system altogether.
[00:19] <pushpop> OerHeks, what that sucks
[00:19] <pushpop> so I can't take advantage of my nice video card in ubuntu
[00:19] <OerHeks> opendriver works fine here, youtube full screen
[00:20] <pushpop> works fine here
[00:20] <pushpop> not for vmware 3d
[00:20] <pushpop> and steam games however
[00:21] <Seek> pushpop  so its when you are in a game it lags i am guessing?
[00:21] <bazhang> pushpop, the 280X?
[00:21] <pushpop> bazhang, YES
[00:21] <pushpop> Seek, steam won't even run
[00:22] <bazhang> pushpop, that card is not superb, it's many years old now
[00:22] <Seek> have you installed it using via terminal
[00:22] <pushpop> bazhang, yes but works for the games I play
[00:22] <bazhang> pushpop, check what the steam requirements are
[00:23] <bazhang> pushpop, if that card is supported, its at the very tail end of what will work at all
[00:23] <Seek> did you istall steam like this
[00:24] <Seek> sudo apt-get install steam
[00:24] <pushpop> no deb from website
[00:24] <bazhang> !info steam
[00:24] <OerHeks> not really important how he installed steam, Seek , he wants better drivers
[00:25] <tgm4883> I wouldn't say it's at the end. The 280X has enough power. However AMD needs to release some better drivers for it
[00:25] <bazhang> does the amdgpu even cover such an older card
[00:25] <Seek> i was just wondering of how he installed it
[00:25] <OerHeks> AMD Radeon R9 285, R9 380/380X and R9 Fury/FuryX graphics cards will be supported out-of-the-box by the AMDgpu
[00:25] <Seek> my friend could not get it only if he did it threw terminal it worked
[00:25] <tgm4883> bazhang: not yet no. IDK if they will in the future either, but radeon would support it
[00:26] <OerHeks> no 280
[00:26] <pushpop> tgm4883, is it even possible to get it working at all to play atl east CS:GO
[00:26] <bazhang> thanks tgm4883
[00:26] <tgm4883> pushpop: currently, you're probably better off installing 14.04 and fglrx
[00:26] <pushpop> or upgrade video card.
[00:26] <pushpop> =)
[00:27] <tgm4883> well yes, that too
[00:27] <tgm4883> You could get a nvidia card
[00:27] <tgm4883> like a 1080
[00:28] <pushpop> haha $$$$
[00:28] <GnomeKris> The first person who's solution is a direct result of fixing my lack of sound on my ubuntu 16.04 instalation will recieve $50USD via paypal
[00:28] <rosgani> GnomeKris wow the sound is nice mate :)
[00:31] <GnomeKris> It would be nice...If it was working.
[00:35] <B0g4r7> Hey guys.  Can you help me fix my laptop?  Thanks.
[00:35] <B0g4r7> First problem: I hated network-manager and somehow murdered it, so now all of my interface configuration is manual.  Now I find that I miss the darned thing, and I want it back.  I don't remember what I did to murder it.  How can I make it work again?
[00:42] <B0g4r7> While that one's digesting, second problem: I had a problem with the keyboard where the P key didn't work, so I somehow remapped the ; key to be P.  Now P works again and again I want to undo the remapping, but again I don't remember how I did it.
[00:42] <B0g4r7> My problems are similar, but different.
[00:44] <bocephus_> i have something that is just stuck from software center not installing  How can i remove it?
[00:45] <bocephus_> dont see it in top.  Tried restarting
[00:45] <shakermaker> whats the name of app thats stuck
[00:45] <bocephus_> tweak tool.
[00:46] <shakermaker> did u search for it in ps
[00:46] <shakermaker> ps -ef | grep tweak
[00:46] <bocephus_> nope
[00:46] <shakermaker> nope u didnt search for it
[00:46] <shakermaker> or nope u did and it wasnt there
[00:47] <bocephus_> didnt look.
[00:47] <bocephus_> Just tried I get to PID`s one I can kill the other -no such process
[00:48] <shakermaker> wait so u see the pid for tweel tool
[00:49] <shakermaker> tweak tool in ps?
[00:49] <bocephus_> yes...I think?  bocephu+ 12056 12022  0 17:46 pts/18   00:00:00 grep --color=auto tweak
[00:49] <shakermaker> no thats the grep pid itself
[00:49] <bocephus_> the 12056 & 12022  ....?
[00:49] <shakermaker> so it is not running
[00:49] <bocephus_> ahh okay
[00:50] <shakermaker> is it stuck at installing?
[00:50] <bocephus_> whoopsy!
[00:50] <shakermaker> if software center is stuck in prgoress
[00:50] <shakermaker> try
[00:50] <shakermaker> sudo dpkg --configure-a
[00:51] <bocephus_> whats the --configure-a?
[00:51] <shakermaker> do man dpkg
[00:51] <bocephus_> ahh just looked it up
[00:51] <shakermaker> if u want to read the details
[00:52] <shakermaker> "Configure a package which has been unpacked but not yet  config‐
[00:52] <shakermaker>               ured.   If  -a  or  --pending  is  given instead of package, all
[00:52] <shakermaker>               unpacked but unconfigured packages are configured.
[00:52] <shakermaker> sorry chat room. screwed up there.... with the paste..
[00:52] <arooni> how do i restart services in ubuntu 16.04 ?  sudo service samba restart doesnt seem to work
[00:52] <shakermaker> sudo systemctl restart
[00:53] <shakermaker> sudo systemctl restart smbd.service
[00:53] <nacc> arooni: i think it's just because samba isn't the name of the service
[00:53] <nacc> as shakermaker points out it's smbd
[00:53] <arooni> ah gotcha ; thanks
[00:53] <arooni> so is sytemctl better than sudo service blah restart ?
[00:54] <shakermaker> ubuntu 16 now uses systemd
[00:54] <shakermaker> ubuntu 14 was using upstart
[00:54] <nacc> arooni: service ends up aliasing to what systemctl does under the covers, iirc
[00:54] <shakermaker> different init
[00:55] <shakermaker> google it to understand... systemd vs upstart
[00:55] <nacc> arooni: service technically works on all 3 init systems (sysv, upstart, systemd); systemctl only supports systemd
[00:55] <nacc> arooni: i'd read (if you have the time...) `man service` and `man systemctl` to see the differences :)
[00:55] <OerHeks> short: yes, it is better. ( to get used to the commands now)
[00:56] <nacc> heh
[00:56] <OerHeks> but both commands will work, see it as a transit
[00:56] <orlock> So
[00:56] <orlock> Where do we go to ask about ubuntu on windows?
[00:56] <orlock> sshd isnt working
[00:56] <orlock> neither is mtr
[00:57] <Jordan_U> orlock: #ubuntu-on-windows
[01:02] <ChrisP_> I'm back if any one has suggestions on my gnome desktop issue
[01:09] <GnomeKris> Still no sound....I wish someone would come up with something I haven't tried yet. Headphones work...not hdmi.
[01:10] <tatertots> laptop or desktop and what gpu GnomeKris?
[01:10] <GnomeKris> Ubuntu recognizes the hdmi output. has controls for it and all...but in alsamixer, it just shows six "s/pdif" options...all set to 00
[01:10] <GnomeKris> gpu is amd radeon r9 380
[01:10] <GnomeKris> Desktop
[01:10] <compdoc> GnomeKris, bios update?
[01:10] <tatertots> what ubuntu version ?
[01:11] <GnomeKris> as up to date as they'll get. Ubuntu 16.04.1 clean install
[01:11] <tatertots> nope not going to work
[01:11] <GnomeKris> Why?
[01:11] <rabbitdew> I'm trying to pxeboot ubuntu 14.04, the installer starts and runs. But then it fails looking for /dists/trusty-updates/restricted/debian-installer/binary-amd64/Packages. The path does not exist. Why does it keep looking there?
[01:12] <Abe_> exit
[01:12] <tatertots> hdmi audio not supported with amdgpu / anything that's not the proprietary amd driver
[01:12] <GnomeKris> If it's broken, and isn't going to work...then where is it listed as broken?
[01:12] <GnomeKris> I can't find anywhere that says that
[01:13] <tatertots> you want some links?
[01:14] <GnomeKris> absolutely
[01:14] <lightblue> Hi, I've switched to another video driver in "additional drivers" in ubuntu 16.04, after that, the fonts in the tty have become very large like they've been soaked in water, I tried to switched the driver back but the fonts stayed the same, how do I change the fonts as they were?
[01:14] <Abe_> xD doesn't this Terminal look cool? kinda like Fallout :D http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=10186167
[01:15] <tatertots> https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/
[01:17] <tatertots> hold on i'm finding a couple more
[01:17] <Abe_> if somebody want's it you can get it here https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term
[01:17] <rabbitdew> join ubuntu-server
[01:17] <rabbitdew> meow
[01:18] <Fudgie> Where do I start. I've figured out how to setup chroot with SFTP however users can only put files in a seperate directory when they connect e.g. /writeable
[01:19] <Fudgie> It looks ugly and its annoying. Is there any way around this.
[01:19] <Fudgie> I just want the users to be jailed and / in SFTP is their directory to put files
[01:20] <GnomeKris> So let me get this straight...There are steam games that REQUIRE the opensource amd drivers in order to play...yet those drivers still don't have sound?
[01:20] <GnomeKris> because the driver still doesn't support hdmi audio out?
[01:21] <GnomeKris> Also, it's 2016...Who still uses anything OTHER than hdmi or dvi output on their pc anymore? Especially within the group of people who are savvy enough to actually install and use anything other that winblows?
[01:22] <GnomeKris> Why would they release a driver that's broken?
[01:22] <Fudgie> I use VGA and HDMI :P
[01:22] <Fudgie> Well actually HDMI and Display Port now
[01:22] <Fudgie> But still used VGA at some point
[01:22] <orlock> i remember when we had to compile beta drivers from the source
[01:22] <orlock> and we were lucky if they didnt lock the machine up completely
[01:22] <GnomeKris> I meant displayport not dvi. damn. sorry
[01:22] <orlock> AND WE WERE THANKFULL FOR EVEN THAT
[01:23] <tatertots> I have a amd cape verde gpu and my hdmi audio works fine
[01:23] <OerHeks> If HDMI output has stopped working, muting and then unmuting the SPDIF output in alsamixer can cause the sound to start working again - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[01:24] <GnomeKris> Well, I'm currently installing amdgpu-pro drivers to see if that solves anything...
[01:24] <GnomeKris> fingers crossed...and hopefully I can still play my steam games that require the mesa drivers
[01:25] <Jordan_U> GnomeKris: Might be worth trying AMD GPU Pro drivers.
[01:25] <Jordan_U> GnomeKris: Never mind, I guess you found that yourself already :)
[01:31] <tatertots> Fudgie which fpt server did you install?
[01:31] <Fudgie> Sftp is using the built in SSHD
[01:31] <Fudgie> for FTP (which appears to refuse to work) VSFTP
[01:36] <truexfan81> ok i can see this is going to be loads of fun to get working
[01:38] <OerHeks> fun included
[01:38] <truexfan81> ubuntu for windows, trying to start apache2 service
[01:38] <truexfan81> (98)Address already in use: AH00072: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80
[01:38] <truexfan81> (98)Address already in use: AH00072: make_sock: could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[01:39] <truexfan81> no clue what could possibly be having port 80 in use
[01:40] <Blue1> truexfan81: in the U.S., incoming port 80 is blocked by isps.
[01:40] <truexfan81> Blue1: which would be a problem if i was trying to share it on the net, which i'm not, this is for local network only
[01:41] <Jordan_U> truexfan81: Absolutely no support for Ubuntu on Windows in this channel.
[01:42] <Blue1> on yeah - -
[01:45] <House> hi all, how do ufw rules interact?  eg: "deny all 22" & "allow 22 from 10/8" ?  do they have to be ordered? does it always apply most restrictive? least restrictive? narrowest match criterion?
[01:45] <tatertots> is network connectivity outside of apache functional? @ truexfan81
[01:46] <truexfan81> tatertots: it is now, i found the problem, skype client was hogging port 80
[01:46] <Blue1> DOH
[01:47] <tatertots> good deal glad you found what was causing the problem
[01:47] <Seek> you can change the Skype port fyi
[01:48] <GnomeKris> Installing amdgpu-pro drivers, then opening additional drivers (which only provides one option for drivers, and it's not open source, nor gpu-pro), then select "do not use this device"...Audio works..all video seems to work so far..
[01:48] <truexfan81> next problem, the repos doesn't seem to have libstdc++6:i386
[01:48] <GnomeKris> No problems now...
[01:48] <tatertots> House what port(s) are you suspecting of being blocked?
[01:48] <GnomeKris> So tell me again why 16.04 ships with broken drivers?
[01:48] <Blue1> GnomeKris: What's wrong with the nouveau (sp) driver?
[01:49] <dax> Blue1: ... it's for nvidia, not AMD :P?
[01:50] <Blue1> dax: I am have major duh issues tonight - thank you!
[01:50] <House> tatertots: I want to know what will happen if i do a "deny all 22" & "allow 22 from 10/8", is it going to block me from <IP_ADDRESS> based on the deny rule, or will it let me through because i match the allow rule?
[01:51] <truexfan81> apt-get install lib32stdc++6 ... i would never have thought of that
[01:51] <OerHeks> GnomeKris, likely your card is not suitable for the AMDgpu driver.
[01:51] <OerHeks> R9 285 and up
[01:52] <tatertots> glad you got it working :)
[01:54] <Seek> hey whats up
[01:55] <tgm4883> House: depends on which rule is first I think
[02:03] <miharu> so... I've found .installer filetype after unpacking from a tar.gz (not entering directory yet, software directory not created). How do I install?
[02:04] <House> thanks tgm4883
[02:05] <miharu> Anyway the software is not available on the repo, and it has no .deb package?
[02:05] <OerHeks> miklcct, does it come with a readme? or their site gives a clue?
[02:10] <Seek> does anyone know how to fix really bad fram lag when i am playing a game
[02:12] <OerHeks> select less graphical options, play fullscreen instead of windowed mode, buy better hardware
[02:12] <tatertots> what gpu do you have seek? and what game are you playing ?
[02:13] <Seek> left 4 dead 2 and Garrys Mod
[02:13] <Seek> but it was fine on windows
[02:14] <tatertots> what gpu do you own?
[02:14] <OerHeks> bad lag .. you die in the game?
[02:15] <Seek> intel ivybrigde
[02:15] <juanonymous> tried installing postfix in ubuntu but each time i tried testing it to send a mail to any of my emails it fails..
[02:16] <Seek> ight
[02:18] <rosgani> FYI: Canonical Plans to Unify and Clean Up Networking Configuration in Ubuntu Linux
[02:18] <rosgani> Read more: http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-plans-to-unify-and-clean-up-networking-configuration-in-ubuntu-linux-506957.shtml
[02:18] <tgm4883> rosgani: off topic for this channel
[02:19] <OerHeks> suitable for #ubuntu-discuss
[02:20] <Seek> ok so my friend keeps trying to install ubuntu but he keeps getting a black screen when he get to the update part and he cant accses the grub menu becuase it is not fully installed yet
[02:22] <^5> Time to test out bash in Windows!
[02:26] <seek> i am a retard i just ctrl+alt+f8 i was trying to skip a sone *DO NOT DO IT*
[02:27] <seek> song*
[02:27] <watermark> why?
[02:28] <YankDownUnder> There is no X server running on VT8...so you get nothing...a blank screen.
[02:28] <seek> yep and it scred the shit out of me lmfao
[02:28] <pauljw_vm> so, just go back to f7 where x is running.
[02:29] <seek> i am used to vps's not the desktop sorry :(
[02:29] <pauljw_vm> :)
[02:29] <YankDownUnder> I love to freak out clients with switching from vt1 through vt7 - always interesting responses...
[02:30] <seek> i am going to look it up i have never seen it
[02:31] <watermark> seek: I am more a retard than you then
[02:31] <lordcirth> seek, it is very useful if your desktop freezes for some reason.
[02:31] <pauljw_vm> if you switch users and log in as someone else, that user will be on f8
[02:32] <YankDownUnder> If the "X server" freezes...
[02:32] <seek> watermark: bet lmfao
[02:32] <watermark> seek: I just tried the crtl+alt+f8 and rebooted
[02:32] <seek> i want to start making linux videos idk should i to me it sounds fun
[02:32] <seek> lmfao
[02:33] <watermark> seek: heh i'm still a beginner
[02:33] <seek> nah you were just wondering what it does i did it to skip a song lmfao
[02:33] <seek> all good
[02:33] <watermark> neverthless I have a question
[02:33] <watermark> about nvidia drivers
[02:34] <watermark> should I install the nivdia drivers on the "additional drivers" panel for my gfx card... it seems... to generate problems on my ubuntu desktop
[02:34] <seek> i was always hosting gaming servers and i used Ubuntu vps's based servers that is why every thing i do is done by the terminal  mostly
[02:34] <EriC^^> pauljw_vm: that's pretty interesting
[02:34] <pauljw_vm> yep
[02:34] <seek> brb
[02:35] <EriC^^> pauljw_vm: you don't even need to enter the password to switch users at times..
[02:35] <EriC^^> seems like a bug
[02:35] <YankDownUnder> watermark: Before doing so, you might want to look through the wiki for issues related to your particular card.
[02:35] <lordcirth> watermark, well, do you need the performance?  If not, don't bother
[02:35] <pauljw_vm> yeah, seems once you unlock it it stays unlocked
[02:35] <watermark> YankDownUnder: thanks for info
[02:35] <watermark> lordcirth: I rarely need 3D performance on my ubuntu no... so...
[02:36] <watermark> so I guess i'd better stick to x org
[02:36] <bumblefuzz> does anyone know if ubuntu 16LTS will run on the macbook pro 11,5  ?
[02:36] <lordcirth> watermark, you would be using xorg regardless of driver
[02:37] <watermark> lordcirth: I understand what you mean
[02:38] <watermark> by the way I noticed recently FOXIT PDF READER has released a linux version yay!
[02:38] <watermark> because there wasn't a decent pdf viewer before imo
[02:39] <phablet> ping
[02:40] <lit> hello
[02:40] <lit> guys i have a problem; when my pc awakes from suspend the cursor disseapers
[02:41] <lit> it reappears after i log back in
[02:41] <lit> i searched google but havent found anything solid
[02:42] <YankDownUnder> lit: Does the cursor come back if you go to the console and then back to the desktop? (going from CTRL-ALT-F1 then back with CTRL-ALT-F7)
[02:42] <lit> by console do you mean terminal?
[02:43] <YankDownUnder> lit: No - as per what I just wrote.
[02:43] <lit> i havent tried those hotkeys
[02:43] <lit> i can try it
[02:51] <arooni> YankDownUnder: you still around?  does your solution i asked you about earlier (mounting ubuntu drives for use on mac os x) auto mount?  or must it be done manually.  i have my samba share set up but arq doesnt seem to like it :(
[02:52] <YankDownUnder> arooni: You can set it up to do so - I have it setup "both ways" - from linux to the Mac, and from the Mac to linux...
[02:52] <arooni> YankDownUnder: cool;
[02:52] <arooni> i'm going to set it up and see if its any snappier than samba
[02:53] <arooni> what was it called again?
[02:54] <YankDownUnder> arooni: SMB transfers always kinda suck from an OSX box or to an OSX box...the package can be quickly installed in a terminal with: sudo apt-get install netatalk
[02:55] <truexfan81> what is the replacement for ia32bit libs? cause without it my game's binary won't run, ldd reports not a dynamic executable
[02:56] <bumblefuzz> does anyone know if ubuntu 16LTS will run on the macbook pro 11,5  ?
[02:57] <YankDownUnder> truexfan81: Mind you, I don't do gaming - however, aren't you doing it the hard way round? Wouldn't it be smarter to find out about your game running on Ubuntu 16.04 and how it's done - instead of trying to get the system to do something it's not necessarily setup to do?
[02:58] <YankDownUnder> bumblefuzz: Yes.
[02:58] <tatertots> what exact error do you get truexfan81? and what game does it occur? and version of ubuntu and are you using steam or something else like wine?
[02:58] <truexfan81> its linux server files for an mmo called Forsaken World
[02:59] <tatertots> so steam or not steam?
[02:59] <truexfan81> not steam
[03:00] <truexfan81> as far as i know the only 32bit libs it needs are glibc and compat-libstdc++-33
[03:01] <arooni> YankDownUnder: how do i configure some kind of password to connect?  and how do i auto start it ?
[03:01] <YankDownUnder> arooni: Please be slightly, if not more, specific...?
[03:01] <truexfan81> which i thought i had installed but ubuntu package management and package naming makes it hard to tell for sure
[03:03] <theorem> curious
[03:04] <theorem> how do I enable alternate audio tracks on an  mkv file ?
[03:04] <arooni> YankDownUnder: ok i guess first things first;  i followed this guide https://kremalicious.com/ubuntu-as-mac-file-server-and-time-machine-volume/ ;; but when it came to the last step to connect as my ubuntu user/password; i get the error message: "There was a problem connecting to the serer"  The version of the software you atre trying to connect to is not supported...
[03:04] <YankDownUnder> theorem: Depends on what you're using to play the MKV with...
[03:04] <theorem> I have a video that seems to have a human talking track and a separate background track.
[03:04] <theorem> I ma using totme and VLC
[03:05] <tatertots> you'll find that in the menu of the playback application being used theorem
[03:05] <theorem> they both seem to play only the background track
[03:05] <truexfan81> E: Unable to locate package glibc-2.19-1-i386  E: Unable to locate package glibc-2.19-1:i386
[03:05] <Jordan_U> truexfan81: I told you quite clearly that there is no Ubuntu on Windows support in this channel. It wastes people's time with the odd quicks of NT's linux emulation. Please join #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss your ban.
[03:05] <truexfan81> ... what is it called?
[03:05] <theorem> tatertots: I thought os too ...
[03:05] <theorem> *so
[03:05] <tatertots> example if there was a english language and french language and a person wants to switch between
[03:06] <tatertots> you'd enter the menu of the playback application and pick audio track#1 / french or track#2 english...something to that effect
[03:06] <theorem> tatertots: yes, I only see 1 track   --  "track 1 - [English]"
[03:07] <theorem> it's very odd that the character audio is not played.
[03:08] <YankDownUnder> arooni: WTF - sorry, this article is vastly outdated, mate...seriously...
[03:08] <tatertots> theorem were you expecting more than a single audio track on that file?...you can observe any files properties and determine how many audio tracks are present in the file
[03:08] <YankDownUnder> arooni: Ya know how much time it took to setup this machine (this linux server/workstation) for access? Like two minutes. The only thing I did was install "netatalk" - nothing more, nothing less. Easy as pie.
[03:09] <theorem> tatertots: since the speech is missing from the video, I was expecting more
[03:10] <theorem> tatertots: I expected that the single audio track would have human speech and background --it's happening across a couple videos I have ..  very strange
[03:10] <tgm4883> theorem: are you sure the speech is missing from the audio track? Are you listening on stereo speakers?
[03:10] <theorem> yes, stereo speakers, good question though, I will try the speaker portion ...
[03:11] <tgm4883> theorem: just wondering if you're listening to 5.1 audio and not downsampling
[03:11] <theorem> tgm4883: you nailed it
[03:11] <theorem> tgm4883: that's exactly it, I have 2.1 speakers , and the audio was 5.1
[03:12] <tatertots> yep that's do it
[03:12] <theorem> it was only sending portions of the audio to the speakers as a result
[03:12] <tatertots> that'll
[03:12] <tgm4883> theorem: figured as much. It would be really odd for them to ship that audio on a separate track
[03:12] <theorem> tgm4883: yes, I was completely perplexed!!!
[03:12] <theorem> switched to 2.1 audio and it's fine
[03:12] <bumblefuzz> YankDownUnder as in, it works out of the box?
[03:13] <YankDownUnder> bumblefuzz: Eh? Sorry? What's the question?
[03:13] <bumblefuzz> does anyone know if ubuntu 16LTS will run on the macbook pro 11,5  ?
[03:13] <bumblefuzz> I don't see a mactel team page on it
[03:13] <YankDownUnder> bumblefuzz: AH...yeah...as long as you know how to get your Macbook to boot to the USB, well, Bob's your uncle.
[03:14] <bumblefuzz> so then, out of the box?
[03:14] <bumblefuzz> how's it do with the dual graphics cards?
[03:14] <YankDownUnder> bumblefuzz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[03:14] <YankDownUnder> bumblefuzz: As with anything that has dual graphics, you're going to have to do some fiddly stuff...but that's "after the fact", hmm...
[03:16] <theorem> what do you think about Mr. Robot (TV Show?)
[03:22] <arooni> YankDownUnder: ok i'm still confused on how to set it up;  i have spent an hour working on it
[03:22] <arooni> YankDownUnder: so i dont need to build netatalk from scratch?  the supplied version in 16.04 is enough?
[03:23] <YankDownUnder> arooni: It's simple. "sudo apt-get install netatalk", easy done. If you want to "tweak" that, well, then you can go through the .conf files for netatalk - which is also easy enough...the hardest bits are literally just setting yourself up to automount, bro...strewth...easy as...(Keep It Simple STUPID) - very logical, hmm...
[03:24] <arooni> well whats easy for you isnt necessarily easy for others ... i have netatalk set up; i'm just confused on what to do next
[03:24] <arooni> places like https://cwill.us/netatalk-install-on-ubuntu-16-04/ are talking about needing to build your own version of netatalk
[03:25] <arooni> and these instructions dont even work; running into dependency problems " The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:25] <arooni>  libkrb5-dev : Depends: krb5-multidev (= 1.13.2+dfsg-5) but it is not going to be installed
[03:29] <YankDownUnder> arooni: Look through the configuration files in /etc/netatalk => IF you really really really need to configure anything specific, it's in there...otherwise, all of "netatalk" is already preconfigured to just "work out of the box" mate.
[03:29] <arooni> ok i resolved the dependency; i'm going to finish this tonight even if its the death of me llol
[03:29] <YankDownUnder> arooni: Back at that time, you had to compile - now you do NOT...therefore, don't bother.
[03:32] <YankDownUnder> arooni: When I setup a client - ya know how long it takes me to get a Mac connecting to a freshly built linux (Ubuntu) server? Less than four minutes time. Ubuntu has made it THAT easy, bro, truth. And if you're running "netatalk" on a linux box, well, nearly the same for getting connected to the Mac...(double check settings in SHARING in System Preferences - along with account settings - and a guest account - if you're going to
[03:32] <YankDownUnder> use a guest account)...easy as pie.
[03:33] <arooni> YankDownUnder: and youre just using the packaged version of netatalk?
[03:33] <pm_> gay
[03:34] <YankDownUnder> arooni: I wouldn't have it any other way...and I prefer to use EXACTLY what is in the distro - before even thinking about "third party" stuff...I have to - in order to have a solid base for my clients, hmm....can't have things getting all freaky on 'em - and wasting their time and money - and my time, eh? :)
[03:34] <arooni> fair enough
[03:34] <watermark> what is netatalk?
[03:35] <YankDownUnder> watermark: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netatalk
[03:36] <watermark> ok I see!
[03:36] <arooni> woo hoo!  got it working
[03:36] <arooni> it really was 3 minutes to set up
[03:36] <arooni> so much conflicting info online is confusing
[03:37] <arooni> so this should be faster than samba i'm assuming since its how apple natively expects to be communicating
[03:38] <YankDownUnder> arooni: Si.
[03:38] <ajruiz> Hi everybody
[03:39] <arooni> YankDownUnder: so does this mean if i take my laptop to a internet cafe that other computers on the same network will see it as a computer they can to connect to?  anyway to stealth hide it?
[03:40] <YankDownUnder> arooni: It's a laptop, and it's running linux, right? If you go to the "internet cafe", ya know the best thing to do? Turn OFF your netatalk and SMB (Samba), and that's that.  Hmm? Like tying your shoes. Like putting on clean undies. Yeah? Yeah.
[03:42] <arooni> i should write a script that runs when i connect to unrecognized AP that shuts all these file sharing servers down
[03:44] <YankDownUnder> arooni: With linux - or with OSX - you can easily enough do that, eh? Coolbeans.
[03:46] <WhoAmi1> hello
[03:48] <arooni> in any case thank you YankDownUnder ;; i have noticed that with netatalk it doesnt seem as stable as samba share... it only works for awhile after restarting the avahi-daemon
[03:52] <YankDownUnder> arooni: There should be NO need to muck with "avahi" in the least...if you DID, you might want to correct it and put it back to it's default condition...there are no issues, there are no stability issues.
[03:57] <arooni> ok i'll undo the muck i started out with
[03:57] <LightPaper> Wow a chat room with 1839 person. So cool!
[03:58] <sarek> Filebot doesnt have an IRC channel, so was wondering if anyone here knew about setting up filebot to hardlink(not rename) files/folders ?
[03:59] <YankDownUnder> sarek: That is something to discuss with ops
[03:59] <sarek> Im not sure i understand what you mean
[03:59] <lordcirth> sarek, --action hardlink ?
[03:59] <lordcirth> First result
[04:00] <sarek> lordcirth: is there a way to scan a directory and based on what kind of media it is, hardlink to certain folders?
[04:00] <lordcirth> sarek, no idea.  Never used it before.
[04:01] <WhoAmi1> does anyone here is expert about DNS ?!
[04:01] <YankDownUnder> sarek: I mis-read what you were asking...sounds interesting - but also sounds "dangerous" to a degree.
[04:01] <Ben64> sarek: you could do that with a bash script
[04:01] <lordcirth> !ask | WhoAmi1
[04:02] <sarek> yes, but based on file name/type Ben64 . filebot searches its database for tv and movies and names things accordingly
[04:02] <WhoAmi1> i want to know how to make a public DNS servers like google
[04:02] <lordcirth> WhoAmi1, you run a DNS server that's open to the internet.  Whether someone chooses to use it or not is up to them.
[04:02] <WhoAmi1> i know to make it with bind and dnsmasq but works only in lan
[04:03] <WhoAmi1> yes
[04:03] <WhoAmi1> how to run them ?!
[04:04] <lordcirth> dnsmasq runs fine on any network, you just have to allow it to accept internet connections.  However, I don't see why you would want to.
[04:04] <LightPaper> The word of chat room is too small to read for me
[04:04] <lordcirth> LightPaper, so increase your IRC client's font size
[04:04] <Ben64> sarek: ok, you could still do that with a bash script
[04:05] <sarek> Im sure you can - unfortunately not much of a coder Ben64
[04:05] <sarek> Thank you though
[04:06] <katronix> hi all, trying to compile my own kernel, when I execute sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-$(uname -r) I get: http://pastebin.com/e6wGfzhR is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel no longer correct docs?
[04:12] <chris_> I actully found a terminal based IRC client
[04:14] <chris_> still no gnome but at least I have lynx for a browse and this for IRC. Still can't figure out the problem
[04:14] <katronix> is there a better channel to ask about compiling the kernel?
[04:18] <OerHeks> katronix, #ubuntu-kernel perhaps ?
[04:19] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[04:19] <katronix> Thanks OerHeks :)
[04:20] <OerHeks> not sure why you cannot get linux-image-4.4.0-31, did you run updates first?
[04:21] <katronix> I did get the package itself, but I can't get the dependcies via apt-get
[04:22] <OerHeks> did you enable src in your sources?
[04:22] <katronix> that might be the issue
[04:25] <th3Dotor> hello!
[04:27] <wateringcan> hi all, need help w/ a sata disk
[04:27] <wateringcan> i have a drive that is spitting errors on boot, and the drive then gets disabled so i can no longer fdisk it
[04:27] <wateringcan> is there any way to boot ignoring errors, or to not have the drive probed so i can remove the partition table?
[04:28] <th3Dotor> hmm dont know if I understand exactly but boot-repair possibly?
[04:28] <OerHeks> dead disk, more a question for ##hardware
[04:29] <OerHeks> if it gets hardware disabled, what do you think software cand o?
[04:32] <wateringcan> OerHeks: it's not hardware disabled, the bios sees it
[04:32] <wateringcan> OerHeks: the kernel is disabling it
[04:33] <Ben64> wateringcan: where are you getting that information
[04:33] <WhoAmi1> could anyone make a nslookup scan for me i want to test a dns server outside lan
[04:33] <Ben64> WhoAmi1: doesn't sound on topic for this channel
[04:34] <WhoAmi1> it's just a scan
[04:34] <WhoAmi1> doesn't need a expert
[04:34] <Ben64> this is the ubuntu support channel, not "here do this thing for me" channel
[04:34] <Ben64> you could try #ubuntu-offtopic or something
[04:34] <wateringcan> Ben64: sda: detected capacity change from<PHONE_NUMBER>792 to 0
[04:35] <wateringcan> Ben64: and then it seems to disappear from the OS
[04:35] <WhoAmi1> you here for help or what ?!
[04:35] <Ben64> wateringcan: sounds like a hardware issue, drive is probably busted
[04:35] <WhoAmi1> what are you doing here if you doesn't want to help someone with a something you can do ?!
[04:35] <OerHeks> WhoAmi1, try #networking or #linux
[04:35] <Ben64> WhoAmi1: you're in the wrong place buddy
[04:36] <WhoAmi1> no one answers in the rest of channels
[04:36] <WhoAmi1> just nslookup scan
[04:52] <etxzay> Hi! I was trying to upgrade Ubuntu desktop from 14.04 to 16.04, but got "Could not calculate the upgrade. An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade ".
[04:52] <etxzay> "grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log" gives me about 670 rows. I don't understand what package  is the source of my problems, it looks like dependency hell. I need some kind of methodology how can I resolve this. Turning off third-party ppas does not helps.
[04:52] <etxzay> Appreciate any help.
[04:53] <cfhowlett> etxzay, you're on 14.04.0?
[04:54] <bvzx> hello
[04:54] <bvzx> who know kafka or any java middle thing?
[05:08] <EriC^^> etxzay: try sudo apt-get -f install
[05:13] <Fr_Dae> EriC^^ -get aren't nessesary after 14.04
[05:13] <Fr_Dae> or debian 8
[05:14] <Fr_Dae> Apt only with color, progress bar and more
[05:14] <Fr_Dae> =)
[05:14] <Fr_Dae> etxzay can you past the return of "free -h" please ?
[05:17] <etxzay> cfhowlett: Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
[05:17] <etxzay> EriC^^: I already was, it installs nothing =(
[05:17] <cimbakahn_> what is the difference between sudo apt-get remove --purge and sudo apt-get purge
[05:17] <EriC^^> etxzay: does it say anything?
[05:17] <EriC^^> try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:17] <etxzay> free -h
[05:17] <etxzay>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[05:17] <etxzay> Mem:           15G       7,0G       8,6G       772M       690M       2,9G
[05:17] <etxzay> -/+ buffers/cache:       3,4G        12G
[05:17] <etxzay> Swap:          15G         0B        15G
[05:18] <EriC^^> cimbakahn_: same thing
[05:18] <EriC^^> !paste | etxzay
[05:18] <cimbakahn_> Are you absolutely sure?
[05:19] <cimbakahn_> Why would they write them different then?
[05:20] <Fr_Dae> cimbakahn_ stop use apt-get use just apt
[05:20] <Fr_Dae> it's same command with color and progress bar
[05:20] <OerHeks> cimbakahn_, not important, test yourself with --dry-run
[05:20] <Fr_Dae> sudo apt purge && sudo apt autoremove
[05:20] <Dat> anyone know of any good cheap dedicated hosts
[05:20] <etxzay> EriC^^: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:20] <EriC^^> etxzay: it means apt is ok
[05:21] <Fr_Dae> etxzay and a clean/fresh install ?
[05:21] <OerHeks> Dat, wrong channel, ubuntu support only, but we can help setup your own host, really cheap
[05:21] <etxzay> Fr_Dae: it's not rly clean/fresh, cause I was using it a lot about 2 years
[05:21] <Fr_Dae> OerHeks what do you say ?
[05:22] <Fr_Dae> etxzay it's maybe time to do ?
[05:22] <EriC^^> etxzay: what exactly is the problem?
[05:22] <Fr_Dae> bakcup you files and format bro
[05:22] <EriC^^> Fr_Dae: no need
[05:22] <etxzay> EriC^^: can't upgrade to 16.04
[05:22] <Fr_Dae> he HDD don't take the upgrade
[05:23] <EriC^^> etxzay: paste the error you're getting
[05:24] <etxzay> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/znYaxDLT
[05:25] <DeadOne> Could someone help me figure out why my laptop keeps logging out when I close the lid, even with a display connected over HDMI?
[05:25] <Dat> OerHeks: my own host how?
[05:25] <Fr_Dae> ubuntu and ubuntu-fr recommand a clean and fresh install for upgrade just =)
[05:25] <cimbakahn_> They say that in synaptic COMPLETELY REMOVE is sudo apt-get remove --purge but all along i have been using sudo apt-get purge in the terminal.
[05:25] <Fr_Dae> so good night
[05:25] <DeadOne> I've modified gnome settings, and I've also messed with systemd-login
[05:26] <Fr_Dae> sudo apt purge only
[05:26] <Fr_Dae> or try bleachbit system cleaner
[05:26] <Fr_Dae> on your official repository
[05:27] <OerHeks> Dat, just run your own host on your own computer?
[05:27] <cimbakahn_> I have bleachbit.
[05:27] <Fr_Dae> cimbakahn_ sudo apt purge "x" && sudo apt autoremove && reboot
[05:27] <Fr_Dae> so good night :D
[05:27] <EriC^^> cimbakahn_: purge and remove --purge is the same thing
[05:27] <EriC^^> cimbakahn_: read "man apt-get"
[05:27] <cimbakahn_> Ok.
[05:27] <Backwards> Fr Dae Bleachbit is excellent. Good recommendation.
[05:27] <EriC^^> remove removes the packages, purge also removes the configs
[05:27] <EriC^^> cimbakahn_: once it's gone from dpkg -l , it's gone
[05:28] <Backwards> Fr Dae in Windows Bleachbit finds things that CCleaner doesn't.
[05:28] <EriC^^> etxzay: do you have any ppa's installed?
[05:29] <cimbakahn_> It doesn't remove the configs in the home folder though.
[05:29] <Backwards> You can configure it to do so.
[05:29] <etxzay> EriC^^: yes, I do some, but I was turning them off, removing the ppas and even without ppas got the same error
[05:29] <Fr_Dae> cimbakahn_ if you want i have better like apt purge, sudo dpkg --force all --purge
[05:30] <DeadOne> So no one can point me in the right direction of why my system is logging out/turning off display connected over HDMI? even though I've edited systemd and gnome settings?
[05:30] <Fr_Dae> or the simply sudo rm-rf / -f
[05:30] <cimbakahn_> apt purge, sudo dpkg --force all --purge ?
[05:30] <OerHeks> ugh ... Fr_Dae stupid thing to type here
[05:31] <etxzay> EriC^^: even without third-party ppas got 700+ "Broken" records in /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log
[05:31] <cimbakahn_> sudo rm-rf / -f
[05:31] <Fr_Dae> apt = please can you ? dpkg = DO THAT !
[05:31] <OerHeks> !danger
[05:31] <Backwards> That command is a wildcard.
[05:31] <DeadOne> cimbakahn_, I tried that.... now I don't have to close my screen to turn off my laptop and opening it won't turn it back on.... joking ofc.
[05:31] <cimbakahn_> Haven't heard of those commands.
[05:32] <Fr_Dae> it's fine, don't use it
[05:32] <Fr_Dae> it's really like TNT
[05:32] <Fr_Dae> Soooo Good night
[05:34] <DeadOne> :'(
[05:35] <Backwards> OerHeks you are funny     !danger  <--------------<
[05:35] <EriC^^> etxzay: upload the log
[05:35] <EriC^^> etxzay: also dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii
[05:35] <etxzay> EriC^^: https://www.dropbox.com/s/79i2mf320pvg3bl/apt.log?dl=0
[05:37] <OerHeks> DeadOne, what settings did you change ? /etc/systemd/logind.conf  - HandleLidSwitch=ignore ?
[05:37] <etxzay> EriC^^: dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii http://pastebin.com/p6Qsyv1i
[05:38] <DeadOne> OerHeks, Yeah.
[05:38] <EriC^^> etxzay: nothing appears broken
[05:39] <Backwards> OerHeks do you know of a URL to put in the /etc/apt/sources.list   to   sudo apt-get install build-essential    ?
[05:39] <EriC^^> etxzay: try tail -v /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[05:39] <OerHeks> Backwards, there is no such thing
[05:39] <etxzay> EriC^^: The main problem for me to understand what is broken, and I also did not found any broken packges... but installer still won't go
[05:40] <DeadOne> OerHeks, http://sprunge.us/cQgh
[05:40] <EriC^^> etxzay: which ubuntu release is this? try cat /etc/issue
[05:41] <DeadOne> OerHeks, Also tried dconf-editor to modify gnome stuff.
[05:41] <DeadOne> Currently it doesn't hibernate but it hits the login screen, everything seems to still be running
[05:42] <stephane> bonjour
[05:42] <DeadOne> but having a display plugged in it turns off the display.. and reverts to login still once the lid is opened again
[05:42] <DeadOne> If I quickly close and re-open it takes a second then goes to login
[05:43] <etxzay> EriC^^: tail apt sources http://pastebin.com/LfbRqfMD
[05:43] <DeadOne> OerHeks, Worth noting "restart systemd-logind" prompts that it's an unknown service but I assume reboot would've reloaded settings yes or no?
[05:44] <etxzay> EriC^^: it's Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
[05:44] <DeadOne> "restart: Unknown job: systemd-logind"
[05:44] <Trinity> i'm getting OSSEC Level 8 Notifs.  I have a question for you.
[05:46] <EriC^^> Backwards: ask here
[05:47] <seek> you guys should cj=heck out this video it is dope that pour multen aluminum into a pool and it sounds so cool when it hits the water i would put a link but i am not sure if i am aload to put links in here but the title is   Pouring molten aluminum into a pool!! its dope
[05:47] <cfhowlett> seek, completely off topic.  don't.
[05:47] <EriC^^> !ot | seek also check out molten salt, it explodes
[05:48] <Backwards> EriC I was wondering the syntax of the command you posted tail -v /etc/apt/sources.list.d./*
[05:48] <seek> sorry
[05:48] <EriC^^> Backwards: yes, it lists the last 10 lines of the files with the file name before it ( -v switch )
[05:48] <Backwards> Please tell me more?
[05:49] <EriC^^> what more to say?
[05:49] <Backwards> I see.
[05:49] <EriC^^> what are you curious about?
[05:49] <Backwards> I have this penchent for understanding commands.
[05:50] <Backwards> This one is new to me.
[05:50] <seek> and ight EriC^^ i will
[05:51] <tatertots> tail has a manual if you want to 'understand' even more Backwards
[05:51] <Backwards> Actually the word is penchant for understanding command.
[05:51] <EriC^^> Backwards: the "*" is a bash thing and it expands all the file names for the dir, and tail has a nifty -v that lists the file names which we needed
[05:52] <Backwards> Interesting.
[05:52] <Backwards> http://askubuntu.com/questions/319100/what-does-the-tail-command-do
[05:53] <Backwards> EriC I appreciate your bringing this to my attention.
[05:54] <Backwards> EriC I love doing homework and research.
[05:56] <Backwards> EriC can you direct the amount of lines of the files with that command?
[05:56] <Backwards> Probably a grep command?
[05:57] <EriC^^> Backwards: you mean parse the lines? or increase the number of files it gives?
[05:57] <Backwards> Thanks. Yes.
[05:57] <EriC^^> yes what?
[05:57] <EriC^^> like redirect the output to a file you mean?
[05:57] <Backwards> Parsing the lines.
[05:58] <EriC^^> yes you could pipe it to anything ( grep, sed, awk, cut, etc.. )
[05:58] <EriC^^> tail -v /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | grep -v ^#
[05:58] <EriC^^> if we wanted to get rid of all the commented out ppa's
[05:59] <paul__759> hi
[05:59] <Backwards> I suppose you could also comment all of the Personal Package List too.
[06:00] <paul__759> hello all
[06:00] <EriC^^> hi paul__759
[06:00] <EriC^^> Backwards: yes
[06:00] <Backwards> By the way nice to meet you EriC.
[06:00] <EriC^^> though ppa-purge is better for removing ppa's
[06:00] <EriC^^> you as well
[06:02] <Backwards> EriC what do you do for work?
[06:02] <Backwards> Just curious.
[06:03] <EriC^^> this is all offtopic here, /join #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[06:03] <Backwards> I suppose so.
[06:03] <paul__759> hi
[06:03] <GnomeLover> lol
[06:04] <Backwards> EriC I cannot join that channel. Must be registered.
[06:04] <GnomeLover> Backwards: even that is also offtopic :P
[06:07] <tase> Im having a hard time with permissions, I have 2 users, A and B, both in group C. I have a folder in /home/A/ called share, /home/A/share. share is owned by A, group C. I have set chmod g+s on /home/A/share. Now user B created the folder /home/A/share/data. User B can rwx in there, but user A can't even CD into it. Shouldn't it be accessible by A since A is in group C?
[06:09] <Backwards> Tase do you have root access?
[06:10] <tase> Yea I've got root
[06:11] <Backwards> OK you can sudo chown <me or directory>: <directory>
[06:11] <tatertots> tase..what are the permissions on /homeA/share/data when it was created by user B?
[06:11] <OerHeks> chgrp that folder /home/A/share/data to group c, it belongs now to b
[06:11] <OerHeks> tatertots +1
[06:11] <Backwards> It would look like chown <me>: <whatever>
[06:12] <tase> tatertots, when B created it, it was rwxrws---, owned by user B, group C
[06:12] <Backwards> Ignore the <  >
[06:13] <tase> Backwards, if I chown the directory as "chown A:", won't B be unable to cd into it?
[06:13] <Backwards> Tase that is up to you.
[06:13] <Backwards> It is a matter of trust.
[06:14] <Backwards> You can chown both A and B but there has to be a mutual trust.
[06:14] <tase> The objective here is to have /home/A/share a "shared" folder with rwx permissions for anyone in the group C
[06:15] <tase> chown both? thats possible?
[06:15] <Backwards> You can do that.
[06:16] <tase> i though ownership via chown was singular
[06:16] <Backwards> You can share ownership with the same group.
[06:17] <Backwards> Ultimately root has the last word.
[06:18] <tase> So can root say that both A and B have rwx on /home/A/share and every file and folder created inside of it in the future?
[06:18] <tase> thats what I though chmod g+s did
[06:18] <tase> but then A can't cd into a folder in there
[06:18] <Backwards> You can stop a group from having root access as well. It all depends upon trust.
[06:19] <tatertots> tase you want the group to have access to this share correct?
[06:19] <Backwards> There is always a bad apple in the barrel.
[06:20] <tase> yea rwx access, including folders created, like /home/A/share/data/assetfolder_288AA
[06:20] <tatertots> could you have put the share in a more neutral area to the users that you intend to have access to it
[06:20] <tatertots> just a thought
[06:21] <tase> yea i could, not sure where
[06:23] <Backwards> Tase, try Googling this: Howto restrict sharing directories with Ubuntu. or   Howto share directories and restrict access.
[06:23] <Seek> how can someone set there ubuntu to nomodeset without having it installed my friend is having some truble
[06:23] <EriC^^> tase: what exactly are you trying to achieve?
[06:24] <cfhowlett> Seek, you're going to have to walk him through the process or have him load the wiki on a secondary device
[06:24] <EriC^^> Seek: yeah, press "e" in grub, or f6 if you get a menu (legacy mode)
[06:24] <tase> EriC^^, I have a service that fetches files, I want these files to be accessible by me (user A). I told the service to put the files in my home, ~/shared
[06:24] <EriC^^> tase: the service runs as root?
[06:24] <tase> no as user B
[06:25] <EriC^^> it can't access your home dir then
[06:25] <tatertots> seek...when ubuntu hasn't been installed?...as in ubuntu and or grub hasn't ever been in existence on the system?
[06:25] <Seek> he dont have it installed tho
[06:25] <EriC^^> well by default i think ubuntu lets other users view the home dir contents
[06:25] <Seek> his windows got deleted
[06:25] <tase> not the home dir directly, a folder in there, that would be shared. I'm open to other locations, like /sharedfolder/ or /home/dmz
[06:26] <tase> just not sure how it would be different
[06:26] <EriC^^> tase: why don't you put it somewhere else and put a symlink in your home dir if you want
[06:26] <Seek> tatertots: yes
[06:26] <EriC^^> tase: put a group and give it +rwx access and add user B to the group
[06:26] <tase> EriC^^, yea me and the service are in the same group
[06:27] <tase> the problem is that when the service creates a folder, I can't CD into it
[06:27] <EriC^^> g+s should fix that
[06:27] <tase> chmod g+s ? yea thats one of the commands I did
[06:28] <Backwards> Tase why not just make the directory <public> and everyone has access to it. Unless the data is private or off limits.
[06:28] <EriC^^> maybe run chmod for the dir when you create it?
[06:28] <EriC^^> or mkdir -m <mode> ?
[06:29] <tatertots> seek okay so a computer that's never had ubuntu and or grub on it, that had been running windows OS, but the windows OS has become damaged or lost?
[06:29] <Seek> yes
[06:30] <tatertots> i'm not sure i understand how you're already at 'nomodset"
[06:30] <tase> EriC^^, so if I mkdir -m 770 (user:group:other ?) "shared", and user B creates a folder in there, will it also be 770?
[06:30] <tatertots> so windows is not in a usable state?
[06:30] <EriC^^> tase: no, i mean when the service creates the file let it change the mods from there
[06:30] <tatertots> and you wish to install ubuntu over it?
[06:31] <EriC^^> tase: another option would be to add your user to the group of user B with g+s
[06:31] <Seek> yeah but he keeps black scrren
[06:31] <tase> EriC^^, I'm with the same group as user B, how do I check if it's g+s?
[06:31] <EriC^^> ls -l /path/to/dir
[06:32] <EriC^^> should be rwxrws---
[06:32] <EriC^^> or so
[06:32] <Backwards> Also Tase you can have it set as <root> and then set the read and write permissions for all users for that one directory.
[06:33] <MRX> yo
[06:33] <EriC^^> tase: actually, ls -ld /path/to/dir
[06:33] <tase> Backwards, won't folders created in there still have the same problem though?
[06:33] <Backwards> Tase you need to set permissions on the files.
[06:34] <Backwards> The problem that I see is that are these files or whatever sensitive data?
[06:34] <EriC^^> tase: what's the group of the main shared dir that's set to g+s ?
[06:35] <EriC^^> tase: really g+s isn't needed, if user A is part of user B's group, and it has g=rwx then he can access everything fine
[06:36] <EriC^^> or use g+s and set the group to user A's group
[06:36] <Seek> nvm he good
[06:37] <tatertots> tase why does user B or user C have to go snooping into user A's home directory to get to this "shared" area that ideally would be neutral to the group?
[06:37] <tatertots> not that you can't configure it that way if you wanted to but why make it harder than it needs to be if it doesn't need to be that way
[06:38] <Backwards> Tatertots good question.
[06:38] <tase> well i did mention that im open to other neutral locations but i never got a suggestion
[06:38] <tase> is there a place in ubuntu by default that is shared?
[06:38] <tatertots> have some respect for user A's home directory for pete's sake lol
[06:38] <EriC^^> make your own
[06:39] <EriC^^> you could use /var if you wanted or just make a /shared
[06:39] <EriC^^> or /var/shared
[06:39] <tase> so if
[06:39] <tase> ops
[06:40] <tase> so if I mkdir -m 770 /shared and chown root:group, then chmod g+s in there, will A and B have free access?
[06:40] <EriC^^> which group will you be using?
[06:40] <Backwards> If you want to share something with ubuntu just create a directory on your website and let that person download a file or anything.
[06:41] <tase> EriC^^, well a group that contains users A and B ?
[06:41] <tase> like group "AunionB"
[06:41] <EriC^^> yeah that would work
[06:42] <tase> um
[06:42] <Backwards> Put your server on localhost and let the person A or B to download whatever on 127.0,0.1
[06:43] <tase> sudo mkdir -m 770 /shared, cd /shared = permission denifed
[06:43] <EriC^^> tase: did you chown the group?
[06:43] <EriC^^> also if you just created the group you have to logout and back in
[06:44] <tatertots> tase if you plan to have a 'share' that's accessible by the group design/configure your permissions and share accordingly
[06:44] <Backwards> Tase permission denied try:  sudo -i
[06:44] <tase> Oh yea I did sudo chown root:mygroup /shared
[06:44] <EriC^^> tase: did you logout and back in since adding the users to "mygroup" ?
[06:44] <tase> tatertots, yea thats what im trying
[06:44] <tase> EriC^^, Ill do that just in case
[06:45] <tase> ok it was that
[06:45] <Backwards> Once you work in root type in the terminal  <exit> it brings you back to your shell account.
[06:45] <tase> /facepalm
[06:50] <TheVegaPunk> hello
[06:50] <Backwards> Tase working with sudo is most important with Ubuntu. Sudo was designed to limit the power of a person using <root access>
[06:51] <Backwards> When you see permission denied it means that the command either is volatile or restricted to only root.
[06:51] <TheVegaPunk> yeah sudo gives access to root files which after changed it can be affected to whole system
[06:51] <lapideviridi> Is there any way for me to encrypt a SD card and have that automatically decrypt when I login?
[06:52] <tase> i can understan sudo apt-get or sudo rm -rf /
[06:52] <tase> but i rather setup my folder permissions than do sudo cd
[06:52] <lapideviridi> I have my ubuntu encrypted with LUKS, wich works pretty nice. I'd like to try the same for a SD card which I have permanently put into the card reader.
[06:52] <Backwards> Tase all permissions are sudo.
[06:53] <TheVegaPunk> lapideviridi: i think you can format your sd card with gparted in encrpyted drive
[06:55] <Backwards> Sudo is a basic function of Ubuntu to have <root access> without being root.
[06:57] <Backwards> Tase, why not just make your directory password protected and anyone can access it by typing in the password. That should fix your problem.
[06:58] <tase> are you talking about http stuff or command line stuff
[06:58] <tase> cuz this isn't www/html
[06:59] <Backwards> I could be anything from .htaccess to password protection of a file or directory.
[07:00] <prat00888> Can ubuntu easily boot from a btrfs snapshot like openSUSE?  For example, if I snapshot root before an update, the update blows up, then I reboot and boot to the pre-update snapshot.
[07:01] <cfhowlett> !btrfs | prat00888
[07:01] <Backwards> You could set up on your web server http://<mywebserver>.<whatever>/<directory> and that would work. No one knows it but your associates.
[07:01] <ducasse> prat00888: you should be able to just specify the subvol on the kernel command line
[07:01] <Blue1> I have had no issues with ext4.
[07:02] <prat00888> Ok.  That's interesting since opensusue switched to btrfs as the default fs 2 years ago.
[07:02] <Blue1> but yeah I've dabbled with reiserfs at one time --
[07:02] <prat00888> It seems to be working out-of-the-box on openSUSE, so I'll probably try that out first.
[07:04] <seek> lol my friend put a file on my desktop and i cant delete it or remove it is it pasibe to delete it at all
[07:04] <mcphail> prat00888: there was a package which created btrfs snapshots with every invokation of apt-get, but I don't think it was maintained. You'd have to snapshot manually
[07:04] <Backwards> Tase I hope you are taking notes.
[07:05] <prat00888> making btrfs snapshots is the easy part.  The more difficult part for me would be integration with the boot loader since I understand that less.
[07:05] <tase> Backwards, you're going on a tangeant with using apache to host files and all that. I think I have my problem solved, I won't be needed further help
[07:06] <mcphail> prat00888: that is fairly easy, but, again, would be a manual intervention rather than automagic
[07:06] <Backwards> Tase another way to transfer files is to DCC Send over the IRC. I do it all of the time.
[07:07] <tase> Oh great idea actually, can I test it with you on a few files? Just tell me if you can run them to make sure they're intact
[07:07] <mcphail> prat00888: the Ubuntu community has not embraced btrfs the way SuSE has
[07:07] <prat00888> Supporting that out-of-the-box would be huge I think.  It works fantastic on Solaris and FreeBSD with ZFS.  It makes OS updates so much less stressful knowing you can just roll back by rebooting
[07:07] <prat00888> I see.
[07:07] <Backwards> Tase I have no idea what files you are referring to.
[07:08] <Backwards> Tase msg me and I will talk about it.
[07:10] <Backwards> Tase you can send tons of data over an IRC server. I run 3 IRCD servers.
[07:11] <Backwards> It is UDP protocol.
[07:14] <Backwards> UDP is User Datagram Protocol which is an RFC 768 Connectionless Transmission Mode.
[07:15] <Backwards> It sends IRC data packets in a DCC send protocol.
[07:17] <Backwards> RFC means Request For Comments and it is what the whole Internet is based upon.
[07:17] <astrill> hiiiiiiiiiiiii
[07:17] <seek> hey
[07:17] <astrill> Seek ,3
[07:17] <astrill> <3
[07:17] <ouroumov> Hello. Someone know why in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf, "managed" is set to "false" by default in [ifupdown] section? Setting it to true seems to have fixed a wifi problem on two machines I've tried it on. (16.04.1)
[07:17] <seek> ight so your black screen fixed
[07:17] <astrill> i think it did
[07:17] <seek> ight
[07:18] <astrill> it has not Black Screened Yet
[07:20] <linuxsocist> hello
[07:21] <linuxsocist> just testing a bash script.
[07:21] <Backwards> Greets to Linuxsocist. Welcome to the channel.
[07:22] <OerHeks> !test
[07:22] <ducasse> ouroumov: when 'managed' is set to true, it will manage interfaces that have been configured by /etc/network/interfaces
[07:22] <Backwards> !test
[07:23] <ouroumov> ducasse, so the change should have no impact whatsoever, and this is just some weird coincidence?
[07:23] <Backwards> OerHeks is that your bot?
[07:23] <ouroumov> (Only loopback is defined)
[07:24] <OerHeks> Backwards, no, it is the official ubuntu bot
[07:24] <Backwards> I see.
[07:24] <OerHeks> it should say, join ##test or something, it is changed
[07:25] <Backwards> When I saw you do !test  I knew ubottu would do the same thing.
[07:26] <ducasse> ouroumov: if those interfaces were previously handled by /e/n/i, it could definitely have an impact.
[07:27] <ouroumov> ducasse, sorry my google search does not turn up anything for "/e/n/i"
[07:27] <ducasse> ouroumov: /etc/network/interfaces
[07:28] <ducasse> ouroumov: if only lo is defined, i don't see why it would matter
[07:28] <Backwards> OerHeks have you worked with build-essential?
[07:29] <ouroumov> ducasse, okay, thanks.
[07:29] <tatertots> ouroumov are you having network problem?
[07:29] <ouroumov> tatertots, I was having wifi problems. It appears to have gone away but I can't figure out why.
[07:30] <ouroumov> (Wasn't an update)
[07:30] <Backwards> Ouroumov if you solved the problem then there is no problem.
[07:31] <ouroumov> I haven't solved it, it disappeared.
[07:31] <orlock> If you ate a rubiks cube
[07:31] <orlock> then that would explain it
[07:31] <orlock> and solved or not.. you still have a problem
[07:32] <Backwards> I eat Rubicks cubes every morning for breakfasts. I love the plastic and the labels and colors.
[07:36] <prat00888> Backwards, be careful you don't choke on the small parts.
[07:36] <prat00888> Backwards, are the red ones cherry or strawberry flavor?
[07:36] <Backwards> My digestive track solved the problem.
[07:37] <Backwards> The worst part about it is passing it through the alimentary cannal.
[07:38] <Backwards> Someone call a doctor.
[07:39] <Backwards> Oh! I am a Doctor.
[07:39] <OerHeks> please guy, keep ontopic
[07:39] <OerHeks> *guys
[07:41] <Backwards> OerHeks have you seen the Ubuntu Linux Bible?
[07:41] <Backwards> https://www.amazon.com/Ubuntu-Linux-Bible-Featuring-10-04/dp/0470604506
[07:41] <OerHeks> bad naming, and old version .. 10.04?
[07:42] <Backwards> It still has good information in it.
[07:42] <OerHeks> With the current transition to systemD, not that much
[07:43] <Backwards> I have about 5,000 books in my library. Every book has at least one good thing to say.
[07:44] <Backwards> An Engineer that I worked with told me: "If you cannot learn something from someone else, it is time to move on."
[07:45] <Backwards> Always ask questions and always try to give an answer.
[07:47] <Backwards> One of my favorite websites is Ask Ubuntu.
[07:48] <Backwards> Also Ubuntu Forums.
[07:48] <Backwards> You can learn more there than being on this channel.
[07:49] <Backwards> However being on the #Ubuntu irc channel is good to meet people who have done their homework.
[07:51] <Abe_> you can get here good help actually. sometimes it's faster if you can't find a good answer
[07:52] <Backwards> Abe good comment.
[07:52] <Backwards> Abe nice to meet you.
[07:52] <Abe_> Hey :D
[07:52] <Backwards> Abe are you an Ubuntu web admin?
[07:53] <Abe_> no not really xD
[07:53] <Backwards> Ok.
[07:53] <Backwards> :)
[07:53] <Backwards> I have about 10 servers running in my establishment.
[07:54] <Abe_> are you doing internet business?
[07:54] <Backwards> Yes.
[07:54] <Abe_> ok thats cool
[07:54] <Backwards> I have my own IRC server.
[07:54] <cfhowlett> Abe_, please stay on the channel topic: ubuntu.  chitchat belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:55] <Backwards> I run Ubuntu and Debian servers also on VBOX i.e., virtual box.
[07:56] <mad> Hello! I have an issue with "Videos" on 16.04. Seems like bottom navpanel ( prev/play/next volume and etc) do not react on mouse clicking. Please, help
[07:56] <Abe_> cfhowlett: yeah i know
[07:56] <Backwards> Abe can I message you?
[07:57] <Abe_> Backwards: if you want in offtopic then
[07:57] <Backwards> I cannot get into offtopic.
[07:58] <Abe_> why?
[07:58] <Backwards> Because I am not registered on freenode.
[07:58] <Backwards> Unless you invite me there.
[07:59] <Abe_> ok then just pm
[08:10] <adamicron> hello
[08:11] <adamicron> can I disable a specific "desktop notification" in Ubuntu 16 desktop default GUI (that I figure is GNOME3)?
[08:12] <adamicron> namely I'd like to disable " Unable to mount Android MTP device " since I'm doing testing on a connected android device and I get like a hundred dialog saying that every time
[08:12] <adamicron> so I'd like to disable "notifications" (I understand that' s not a proper notification hence why I quoted that) but I don't know well how the automounting works
[08:17] <yossarianuk> adamicron: good question - no idea personally in Untity... in kde its -> system-settings -> notifications . However KDE is famous for allowing a high level of configuration (gnome based systems not so much)
[08:18] <adamicron> but these are plain dialog windows, not notifications in the modern meaning of the term
[08:18] <adamicron> i.e. some process is prompting that and blocking on it
[08:18] <adamicron> unlike "system notifications"
[08:19] <adamicron> I'd be good by disabling MTP automount but I need to be able to do it via cli since I have to disable and then reenable it afterwards
[08:21] <killall> how do i force via commandline my ubuntu to use the hdmi output and not the analog audio output?
[08:21] <cfhowlett> !hdmi | killall
[08:22] <OerHeks> open terminal:  alsamixer > f6 > select sound device
[08:24] <OerHeks> adamicron, no idea howto block notifications, unity-tweak got nothing on that
[08:24] <killall> OerHeks, hdmi is not there
[08:25] <OerHeks> then i have no clue: maybe you have no hdmi sound
[08:25] <adamicron> I shouldn't have used "notification", that will stick now
[08:25] <adamicron> this is the alert I get (not my screenshot) http://i.stack.imgur.com/mdBGO.png
[08:26] <killall> OerHeks, i do have hdmi sound :) it is playing right now....
[08:26] <adamicron> you see that's not a proper notification
[08:28] <OerHeks> adamicron, that is an error, not a notify-message
[08:30] <OerHeks> automount can be disabled with gconf editor: org.gnome.desktop.media-handling
[08:32] <adamicron> OerHeks: via CLI_
[08:32] <adamicron> ?
[08:33] <OerHeks> adamicron, why ? i see you have a pretty desktop
[08:33] <adamicron> I'm running test, in batch
[08:33] <adamicron> tests*
[08:34] <adamicron> I want to disable automount when I start but leave the config as it was so when someone connects a drive he won't go mad
[08:34] <OerHeks> when i bring a solution, people always want the 'cli' version ...
[08:35] <adamicron> " gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.media-handling automount-open false"
[08:35] <adamicron> OerHeks: CLI is good
[08:35] <adamicron> thanks for the hint
[08:40] <Dingel> hey guys need help on upgrade issue from 15.04 to 15.10 anyone can help ?
[08:40] <EriC^^> Dingel: why don't you fresh install 16.04?
[08:41] <k1l_> !eolupgrade | Dingel
[08:41] <Dingel> i need the data
[08:41] <EriC^^> (15.10 is also eol)
[08:41] <Dingel> i know
[08:41] <EriC^^> Dingel: backup, then copy back and install the programs agian
[08:41] <EriC^^> *again
[08:41] <Dingel> I need your advice on this case. Customer has the following distro : Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:    Ubuntu 15.04 Release:        15.04 Codename:       vivid He is trying to upgrade to the 15.10 and finally to 16.04.  Did all the steps : http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/10/upgrade-ubuntu-15-04-to-ubuntu-15-10/
[08:41] <k1l_> you are very late for that upgrade. even 15.10 is eol already.
[08:42] <k1l_> Dingel: that is a really bad howto
[08:42] <Dingel> sudo do-release-upgrade -d^
[08:42] <Dingel> it says alaready up to date
[08:42] <k1l_> that command is bad
[08:42] <Dingel> what do you suggest ?
[08:42] <cfhowlett> Dingel, clean install
[08:42] <barq> I keep getting the message No space left on device because my /home is full, but I have loads of space left on my device. How can I increase the /home?
[08:42] <Dingel> here is the log here : https://favad.blob.core.windows.net/test/screenlog.zip
[08:42] <k1l_> the "-d" is for devel release. which all the noob out there write into their howtos but quite after some time that doesnt work anymore
[08:43] <cfhowlett> barq, you need to clean our your kernels
[08:43] <EriC^^> barq: pastebin df -h && df -i
[08:43] <k1l_> !eolupgrade | Dingel read this howto
[08:43] <k1l_> Dingel: you need to change the sources.list since you are way to late
[08:43] <Dingel> how do i do it ?
[08:43] <adamicron> bye
[08:43] <k1l_> Dingel: see the bots message and link
[08:44] <k1l_> barq: can you show a "df -h" and a "df -i" on paste.ubuntu.com?
[08:45] <Dingel> k1l how to do it ?
[08:45] <cfhowlett> Dingel, you have to READ the links we send you
[08:45] <k1l_> Dingel: read the link from the bot. it explains exactly what to do. i will not copy and paste every senstence in here.
[08:45] <barq> https://ghostbin.com/paste/dajkm
[08:45] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | k1l_
[08:46] <Dingel> ok thanks ill try do it now
[08:47] <barq> k1l_, EriC^^ : ^
[08:47] <EriC^^> barq: /home is full
[08:47] <barq> yes I know
[08:48] <EriC^^> delete stuff from it..
[08:48] <EriC^^> it's your personal files
[08:48] <barq> can I not increase it
[08:48] <barq> I have tons of space on my drive
[08:48] <EriC^^> type sudo parted -l and pastebin it
[08:49] <barq> EriC^^: https://ghostbin.com/paste/xmjrf
[08:49] <Dingel> how do i add items to the source list ?
[08:50] <barq> Or how can I find out what is clogging up the sapce
[08:50] <barq> space
[08:50] <k1l_> Dingel: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:50] <k1l_> barq: run "baobab" which will show you what is using all the space on the disk where /home is
[08:50] <EriC^^> barq: sudo apt-get install ncdu && ncdu /home
[08:51] <Dingel> ok ,so to add these lines correct
[08:51] <k1l_> and you could have said, that this is a VM in vbox
[08:51] <EriC^^> nice 1 k1l_
[08:51] <k1l_> Dingel: you need to change the lines in there. like its explained in the wiki page
[08:52] <Dingel> ok
[08:55] <yann> join #grass
[08:56] <barq> Thanks. My trash was also full.
[08:56] <Dingel> k1l i get : An upgrade from 'vivid' to 'xenial' is not supported with this tool. [08:57] <k1l_> Dingel: what are you doing exactly?
[08:57] <Dingel> after i added the lines i run :
[08:57] <Dingel> sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade sudo do-release-upgrade
[08:57] <k1l_> Dingel: did you change the sources.list to old-releases and vivid?
[08:57] <Dingel> yes
[08:57] <kvmmm> can I hook 2 ubuntu laptops together and toggle between with a KVM switch?
[08:58] <cfhowlett> k1l_, you might find it an order of magnitude easier to just clean install.
[08:58] <k1l_> Dingel: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999"
[08:58] <cfhowlett> kvmmm, hook meaning network?
[08:58] <kvmmm> maybe... so for example, I have a windows computer and linux computer
[08:58] <Dingel> ki1_: what do you mean ?
[08:59] <kvmmm> I want to sometimes have the ubuntu laptop show ubuntu and the windows show windows, but flick a switch and then both show only windows
[08:59] <afidegnum> hello, while on ubuntu 14.04 i have broken packages error, how do I fix it ? https://bpaste.net/show/e59dc566246f
[08:59] <Ben64> kvmmm: do you know what a kvm switch does
[09:00] <k1l_> Dingel: please run that command. it will output a url, please show that url here
[09:00] <Dingel> ok
[09:00] <kvmmm> Ben64... not really
[09:01] <k1l_> afidegnum: "sudo apt update && apt-cache policy postgis | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the output url here please
[09:01] <Ben64> kvmmm: you plug two computers into a kvm switch, and one keyboard, monitor, and mouse on the other side. you can switch between the two computers usually with a special key sequence
[09:02] <Dingel> ki1_: its taking a lot of time
[09:03] <Dingel> ki1_: how much does it takes?
[09:03] <k1l_> Dingel: only seconds
[09:03] <k1l_> Dingel: press ctrl+c to abort
[09:03] <Dingel> ki1_: done
[09:03] <k1l_> Dingel: run "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and put the output to paste.ubuntu.com and show the url here
[09:04] <Dingel> got it
[09:04] <kvmmm> hmmmm, so then could I put a stick PC into the HDMI of my laptop, see a mini Ubuntu using the stick PC, and then use a KVM switch the change whether the laptop OS, or the stick OS would be controlled by the laptop keyboard?
[09:04] <impak> hi all
[09:04] <impak> i need help
[09:05] <Ben64> kvmmm: no not at all
[09:05] <impak> where is file version.h?
[09:05] <Dingel> ki1_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22154715/
[09:06] <Dingel> ki1_: can you open it ?
[09:06] <k1l_> Dingel: that is wrong
[09:06] <cfhowlett> WAY wrong
[09:06] <Dingel> ki1_: sorry can you fix this ?
[09:06] <k1l_> Dingel: the help page the bot linked got clear instructions. why dont you just follow them?
[09:07] <cfhowlett> k1l_, you are aware that you could have actually clean installed ubuntu 16.04 by now?  and not had to muck about in the sources list at all?
[09:08] <Dingel> ki1_: i followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[09:08] <EriC^^> impak: sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[09:08] <quackgyver> My Ubuntu Software Center just gets stuck loading whenever I search
[09:09] <quackgyver> I've tried all the basic troubleshooting stuff, rebooting etc
[09:09] <quackgyver> What do I do?
[09:09] <quackgyver> (a reformat or reinstall is not an acceptable solution)
[09:09] <k1l_> Dingel: what is the output of "lsb_release -d"?
[09:09] <OerHeks> Dingel, cloud ?? i think you need to contact your vendor for an updated image
[09:09] <Dingel> ki1_: Description:    Ubuntu 15.04
[09:10] <kvmmm> so, if I run two laptops, what's the easiest way to share screens?
[09:10] <Dingel> which one canonical ?
[09:10] <k1l_> Dingel: and no. you didnt follow that howto. you just looked for commands to copy and paste and did not even read what is written the line above it.
[09:10] <kvmmm> one's Ubuntu and one's Windows
[09:10] <Dingel> ki1_: ok reading it again
[09:10] <k1l_> Dingel: and is that a vps, cloud storage or webserver?
[09:11] <impak> i'm install linux-generic
[09:11] <impak> and i dont see this file
[09:11] <Dingel> ki1_: what code name should i replace vivid ?
[09:12] <EriC^^> impak: type dpkg -l | grep linux-headers
[09:12] <k1l_> Dingel: you dont replace vivid
[09:12] <EriC^^> and uname -r
[09:12] <k1l_> Dingel: you replace "CODENAME" with vivid. since you are using vivid right now.
[09:12] <Dingel> ki1_: ok doing it and trying again
[09:12] <k1l_> Dingel: and again: is this a cloud image/server? because then that all will cause a mess
[09:13] <quackgyver> Anyone?
[09:13] <Dingel> ki1_: cloud
[09:13] <Dingel> ki1_: azure
[09:13] <cfhowlett> quackgyver, kill the software center.  do a manual update
[09:13] <k1l_> Dingel: then talk to the hoster how to proplery upgrade that machine
[09:13] <cfhowlett> quackgyver, sudo apt update
[09:13] <quackgyver> cfhowlett: how do i kill it
[09:13] <k1l_> *properly
[09:13] <Dingel> ki1_: hoster told me reinstall
[09:14] <quackgyver> I mean I don't see how this problem can even occur since it's a one day fresh installation
[09:14] <cfhowlett> quackgyver, open a terminal and : ps -x        find the PID and kill -9 [pid]
[09:14] <Dingel> ki1_: i have several machines the same issue solved after doing do upgrade
[09:14] <quackgyver> alright. how do i find the pid
[09:14] <cfhowlett> read the above
[09:14] <quackgyver> oh i thought that was the command for killing it
[09:14] <quackgyver> how do i kill it?
[09:15] <Fudge> quackgyver:  ps aux | grep software
[09:15] <quackgyver> I can't really make anything out
[09:15] <quackgyver> Too much clutter
[09:15] <Fudge> look for the results, one will be the grep command you just issued, the other has the pid, usually a 5 didgit number, they change so don't wait too long to sudo kill -9 pid-number
[09:15] <quackgyver> In the PID list I mean.
[09:16] <quackgyver> Man this is hilarious. I reinstall Ubuntu cus apt-get's state somehow managed to break, and now like, 1-2 days in software center is broken.
[09:16] <quackgyver> Why can't Linux just work. O_O
[09:16] <EriC^^> where's the fun in that
[09:16] <k1l_> quackgyver: that are very unusual issues
[09:17] <k1l_> quackgyver: did you add any PPAs or 3rd party repos?
[09:17] <quackgyver> Nope.
[09:17] <quackgyver> I do everything as vanilla as humanly possible.
[09:17] <Trinity> does anyone know if ufw is persistent over reboots?
[09:18] <k1l_> Dingel: erase everything in the sources.list and only place the lines there mentioned in the howto.
[09:19] <_ramok> hi
[09:19] <OerHeks> really quackgyver, with dosbox?
[09:19] <_ramok> is there an tool that can check RAM  when the OS is already loaded. as far as i understood memtest+ needs to run after grub loaded
[09:20] <cfhowlett> _ramok, "check" ram?
[09:20] <OerHeks> _ramok, you don't test ram with a full system running
[09:20] <k1l_> _ramok: no. since the ram is in use then. run memtest on the grub listing
[09:20] <Triffid_Hunter> _ramok: well after your system is booted, a fair chunk of the ram is in use.. how do you plan to test it without corrupting system state?
[09:20] <quackgyver> OerHeks: What do you mean?
[09:20] <quackgyver> Ok now Software Center is suddenly working
[09:21] <_ramok> okay, it seems like in a running state it doesn't make sense :)
[09:21] <Triffid_Hunter> _ramok: it's like trying to work on your car engine while driving... not gonna work, and likely to break lots of stuff
[09:21] <quackgyver> but now the system keeps telling me that I have a system problem
[09:21] <Dingel> ki1_: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Building data structures... Done  Calculating the changes  Calculating the changes  The software on this computer is up to date.  There are no upgrades available for your system. The upgrade will now be canceled.
[09:21] <quackgyver> asking if i want to report it o_o
[09:21] <_ramok> thanks guys
[09:21] <cfhowlett> quackgyver, sounds like an PEBKAS error
[09:21] <k1l_> Dingel: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and show that again on the paste.ubuntu.com
[09:21] <Dingel> ki1_: ok
[09:23] <Dingel> ki1_: it changed to wily :
[09:23] <Dingel> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu wily main restricted universe multiverse deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu wily-updates main restricted universe multiverse deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu wily-security main restricted universe multiverse
[09:23] <afidegnum> k1l_: here is the results https://bpaste.net/show/ad2e2bc40b6d
[09:23] <k1l_> Dingel: that is all wrong
[09:24] <Dingel> ki1_: i didnt change it yet
[09:24] <k1l_> Dingel: then dont run the upgrade......
[09:24] <Dingel> ki1_: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/22156349/
[09:25] <k1l_> Dingel: you need to change the sources.list, as explained in the howto. then you run the upgrade. i dont know how to make that any easier.
[09:25] <k1l_> Dingel: if you still dont understand maybe you should ask someone locally for help. or you just reinstall a 16.04 ubuntu and start with that
[09:26] <Dingel> ki1_: the article is not clear
[09:26] <drox> i have a problem Argyll and Argyllcms are yourself program?
[09:26] <Dingel> ki1_: do i need to replace all entries with code name vivid ?
[09:26] <k1l_> afidegnum: your ubuntugis-unstable PPA is making that mess. remove that ppa with ppa-purge and you shoule be able to install it.
[09:27] <afidegnum> k1l_: how do I remove it ? from the apt/sources.list ?
[09:27] <k1l_> Dingel: you need to replace everything in that file. just delete everything. then you place the lines shown in the howto in that file. then you change CODENAME to vivid. since vivid is what you use at the moment
[09:27] <k1l_> !ppa-purge | afidegnum
[09:29] <Dingel> ki1_: ok doing it
[09:29] <Pipapop> Hello!
[09:31] <Pipapop> I have a black screen problem after an upgrade from 14.04.3 to 16.04.1 (Xubuntu version). On the xubuntu channel, someone suggests to add nomodeset to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT. I did it but problem is still here
[09:32] <Pipapop> almost "worse", before that, I could see very quiclky the blue screen of xubuntu, and now, black (more darkgrey than black...) screen directly
[09:32] <lerner> sudo chown -R dexter:dexter /home/pictures will change owner and group to dexter, correct?
[09:33] <phiona> how do we verify the hashes of downloaded lubuntu isos? i cant find it on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/xenial/release/
[09:33] <Wuthering_Height> @ara yeal
[09:33] <Pipapop> (hardware info: laptop Lenovo x230, integrated Intel Chipset)
[09:33] <k1l_> !md5sum | phiona
[09:34] <Dingel> ki1_: like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/22157158/
[09:35] <k1l_> Dingel: yes
[09:37] <phiona> k1l_: done that. now wheres the list to  check it against?
[09:38] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[09:38] <Seek> how can i remove a file that cant be removed my friend fucked with me and put a text doc i cant remove
[09:38] <OerHeks> (from the same page)
[09:38] <k1l_> phiona: on the cdimage server. like explained on the sites i linked
[09:38] <Dingel> ki1_: look at the results http://paste.ubuntu.com/22157557/
[09:38] <OerHeks> Seek, you have been warnedfor days, not to use such language ...
[09:39] <Dingel> it cant find Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid-security/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[09:39] <Seek> oh
[09:39] <Seek> my bad
[09:39] <Pipapop> phiona: scroll down your link http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/xenial/release/ you'll find the md5 file
[09:40] <Pipapop> phiona: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/xenial/release/MD5SUMS
[09:40] <seek> sorry
[09:41] <quackgyver> cfhowlett: how can it be a PEBKAS error when I've literally just installed Ubuntu
[09:41] <Dingel> ki1_: there is no vivid : http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[09:41] <quackgyver> What could I possibly mess up during what is essentially an extremely simple installation wizard
[09:41] <quackgyver> Do you somehow thing that I banged the computer against the wall or what
[09:41] <quackgyver> think*
[09:42] <mcphail> quackgyver: what release of Ubuntu are you using?
[09:43] <phiona> k1l_ Pipapop yes. found it. thanks
[09:44] <gooferpal>  'Windows is just another pane in the glass.'
[09:44] <sarek> How do i uppercase a directory? mv /media/storage/media/movies /media/storage/media/Movies mv: cannot move '/media/storage/media/movies' to a subdirectory of itself, '/media/storage/media/Movies/movies'
[09:44] <k1l_> Dingel: ok, then erase everything and put this back in there: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22158087/
[09:44] <quackgyver> mcphail: The latest LTS one
[09:45] <quackgyver> 16.04 or whatever it is
[09:45] <Dingel> ki1_: ok
[09:45] <MonkeyDust> quackgyver  in a terminal, type    cat /etc/issue
[09:45] <seek> how can i remove a file becuase my friend put it on my desktop and he was just messing with me does and anyone know how to take it off
[09:45] <quackgyver> It's telling me that it's having problems with /usr/lib/colord/colord-sane
[09:46] <gooferpal>  'I once heard Bill Gates say, "WHAT?!?!  Netscape caused an invalid page
[09:46] <gooferpal> fault!?!  Only Microsoft programs have the code to do that!"'
[09:46] <quackgyver> And it says that it's a duplicate of http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1351286 when I'm about to submit the error report
[09:47] <quackgyver> I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't care about this issue. I was just trying to get Software Center to work
[09:47] <quackgyver> I'm just saying, it's frustrating and weird how Ubuntu repeatedly has issues.
[09:47] <quackgyver> If it ain't one thing it's another.
[09:47] <sarek> How do i uppercase a directory? mv /media/storage/media/movies /media/storage/media/Movies mv: cannot move '/media/storage/media/movies' to a subdirectory of itself, '/media/storage/media/Movies/movies' any ideas?
[09:47] <quackgyver> I appreciate all the help tho for sure. :)
[09:47] <MonkeyDust> quackgyver  thank gog Windows never has issues
[09:48] <MonkeyDust> god*
[09:48] <quackgyver> Not like this mate.
[09:48] <ducasse> sarek: what kond of filesystem is that?
[09:48] <Wuthering_Height> mv -r /media/storage/media/movies
[09:48] <ducasse> sarek: *kind
[09:48] <sarek> hfs ducasse
[09:49] <ducasse> sarek: i'm guessing you have mounted it case-insensitive
[09:49] <quackgyver> Weird. I have one app that is stuck "waiting to install" in the sidebar, and yet it's already installed
[09:49] <ducasse> sarek: or the fs itself is
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> quackgyver  first time you're using ubuntu?
[09:49] <sarek> the file system itself is hfs
[09:49] <quackgyver> MonkeyDust: No like 8th attempt. I always quit it cus I end up having some weird issue.
[09:49] <quackgyver> Whether it's the computer getting bricked or the wifi interface destroying itself.
[09:50] <ducasse> sarek: to work around - 'mv movies blah; mv blah Movies'
[09:50] <MonkeyDust> quackgyver  don't quit, try to find out what causes it, like we all did
[09:50] <mcphail> sarek: you're running into problems with a case-insensitive filesystem but a case sensitive operating system
[09:50] <quackgyver> MonkeyDust: Every time I do that it ends up eating up up to two weeks for me
[09:50] <sarek> yeah figured id do that ducasse
[09:50] <sarek> Thanks
[09:50] <quackgyver> And I go down a rabbit hole of following tutorials that halfway through turn out to have been outdated
[09:51] <quackgyver> and nobody on IRC can help me follow through
[09:51] <quackgyver> so I end up with a broken system :P
[09:51] <MonkeyDust> quackgyver  yes, you shouldnt follow random tutorials
[09:51] <quackgyver> Usually it's the top-ranked results on how to fix my specific issue, which usually are on ubuntu.com
[09:52] <quackgyver> Don't get me wrong. I'm not expecting a free OS project to be accountable for these things.
[09:52] <quackgyver> I'm just saying that it's def an issue
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> quackgyver  i saved this quote, here on #ubuntu ... "you won't get a system that behaves the same way as a windows system.. linux has its own advantages and disadvantages.. you just learn to live with a different set of annoying things =)"
[09:56] <quackgyver> MonkeyDust: sure thats fine
[09:56] <skweek> hi, I wasn't getting a webcam selection from cheese when I opened it and I was wondering if anyone had any advice
[09:56] <quackgyver> i agree with that
[09:56] <skweek> there's two webcams on my computer, one in front and one on the back
[09:56] <Dingel> ki1_: got diffrent error now http://paste.ubuntu.com/22159164/
[09:57] <k1l_> Dingel: why are you using -d now?
[09:57] <Dingel> ki1_: becouse i get the error it is not supported
[09:57] <k1l_> dont use -d
[09:57] <k1l_> if you dont know what its doing, dont use it
[09:58] <Dingel> ki1_: Reading cache  Checking package manager  Can not upgrade  An upgrade from 'vivid' to 'xenial' is not supported with this tool. [09:58] <skweek> I don't actually see any video device listed underneath cheese preferences
[09:58] <vahe> hi all ,I updated Ubuntu 14 to 16 ,ifconfige not see wlan0, only eth0 and lo,now wifi is not working
[09:58] <k1l_> Dingel: i really dont understand why you want to make choas to your system all the time
[09:59] <k1l_> Dingel: please show the actual output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:59] <Dingel> ki1_: i just want to upgrade to 16.04 thats it
[09:59] <skweek> and I don't see anything in dmesg about the video device
[09:59] <k1l_> Dingel: and after that show the output of "cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades" in a pastebin too
[09:59] <skweek> and nothing is listed when I run ls /dev/video*
[10:00] <Dingel> ki1_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22159472/
[10:00] <skweek> I just have no such file or directory
[10:00] <Dingel> ki1_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22159537/
[10:00] <Abe_> Dingel: what ubuntu version do you have?
[10:00] <k1l_> Dingel: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and make all wily back to vivid.
[10:01] <Dingel> ok
[10:01] <k1l_> Dingel: and dont run any other commands
[10:01] <Dingel> ki1_: ok
[10:02] <vahe> I updated Ubuntu 14 to 16 ,ifconfige not see wlan0, only eth0 and lo,now wifi is not working
[10:02] <Dingel> ki1_: changed http://paste.ubuntu.com/22159687/
[10:03] <Dingel> Abe: i have 15.04
[10:03] <k1l_> Dingel: ok. after that run "sudo apt update" then "sudo apt full-upgrade"
[10:03] <k1l_> Dingel: report any errors
[10:03] <Dingel> ki1_: ok
[10:04] <Dingel> ki1_: got the following warning Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done All packages are up to date. W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_vivid_main_binary-amd64_Packages) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[10:04] <Dingel> ki1_: to continue?
[10:05] <k1l_> Dingel: remove the last line "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu vivid main"  from the sources.list its somehow doubled
[10:05] <Dingel> ki1_: ok
[10:06] <Dingel> ki1_: ok ,no errors continue to the next step
[10:06] <k1l_> Dingel: if the both commands workrd and didnt want to update packages then "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[10:07] <Dingel> ki1_: got the following :hofadmin@deuwhybrisfs2p2:/etc/apt$ sudo apt full-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. hofadmin@deuwhybrisfs2p2:/etc/apt$
[10:08] <Dingel> ki1_: still got the error after do upgrade : Reading cache  Checking package manager  Can not upgrade  An upgrade from 'vivid' to 'xenial' is not supported with this tool. [10:08] <k1l_> hmm
[10:12] <Dingel> ki1_: what can cause this behavior ?
[10:12] <ducasse> can vivid be upgraded to xenial without going through wily?
[10:13] <Dingel> ducasse : dont now what else to do
[10:13] <Dingel> *knoa
[10:13] <Dingel> *know
[10:13] <k1l_> Dingel: what command did you use exactly?
[10:14] <Abe_> do you want to a developer version upgraden?
[10:14] <Abe_> ?
[10:14] <Dingel> ki1_: sudo do-release-upgrade
[10:14] <Abe_> do you want to upgrade to a developer version ?
[10:14] <Dingel> abe:to the 16.04
[10:14] <Abe_> cuz of the -d if that would make any difference
[10:14] <ducasse> Dingel: i thought the recommended way was upgrade vivid -> wily -> xenial
[10:15] <k1l_> Abe_: stop
[10:15] <k1l_> ducasse: it is
[10:15] <ducasse> k1l_: he's trying vivid -> xenial according to the output above
[10:15] <k1l_> Abe_: the -d is very bad advice. and too much bad howtos on the internet already tell everyone to just use -d
[10:15] <Dingel> abe:i need to upgrafe to 15.10 than to 16.04
[10:15] <Abe_> then sudo do-release-upgrade ?
[10:16] <k1l_> Dingel: i guess that is due to the cloud server.
[10:16] <k1l_> Dingel: talk to the hoster then
[10:16] <Abe_> yes -d says developer version
[10:16] <Dingel> the hoster does not know shit
[10:17] <Abe_> and in that pastebin he did with -d idk if it makes a difference to that error
[10:17] <Abe_> Your Ubuntu release is not supported anymore. dont think so
[10:18] <k1l_> Abe_: yes, if he has used -d that output would make sense.
[10:18] <Dingel> i was able to upgrade other vms with the same version to 15.10 than 16.04
[10:18] <Abe_> does the same thing happen without the -d?
[10:19] <Dingel> without the -d it say   Can not upgrade  An upgrade from 'vivid' to 'xenial' is not supported with this tool. [10:19] <ducasse> Dingel: since wily is eol now, you might need to use old-releases
[10:19] <k1l_> ducasse: no
[10:20] <Abe_> tool?
[10:20] <k1l_> we tested all that. somehow the upgrade links to 16.04 which i guess is made from something on the hoster side.
[10:21] <Dingel> the hoster is Azure - they sent me to canonical
[10:21] <Abe_> what happens if you try to upgrade over gui?
[10:21] <Dingel> i dont have gui should i install ?
[10:21] <Dingel> this is only cli
[10:22] <k1l_> Dingel: the facts you provided mean it should work. i dont know why it doesnt work. there must be something changed on that system
[10:22] <Abe_> do you have server or something? why don't you have an desktop enviroment?
[10:23] <Abe_> do sorry tired
[10:24] <Dingel> all azure servers doesnt have gui
[10:24] <Abe_> ok  well i thought you were on regular ubuntu
[10:25] <Dingel> what else could be here
[10:25] <Dingel> you think canonical can help here ?
[10:27] <Abe_> SystemError: E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. what's if you could fix them somehow idk
[10:27] <jor> Dingel: you want to dist upgrade a azure server? why not just start a new instance with the ubuntu version you want?
[10:28] <Abe_> ask in a forum too Dingel
[10:28] <OerHeks> Dingel, i think you need to contact your vendor for an updated image, or reinstall fresh
[10:28] <Dingel> becouse than i will need to install from the begining
[10:28] <ikonia> azure - depends on the mode
[10:29] <ikonia> eg: para virtualized
[10:29] <ikonia> the upgrade will fail
[10:29] <ikonia> if it's full virtualized it should work
[10:29] <Abe_> thats what i expected somehow
[10:29] <Dingel> i dont understand
[10:29] <OerHeks> Dingel, that is a good thing, you have no security updates now, and can become a zombieserver
[10:29] <k1l_> Dingel: on a regular desktop or server ubuntu isntall that upgrade will work as i told you. so your hoster is blocking that somehow.
[10:30] <Dingel> i moved the vm to on premise and i have the same thing
[10:30] <k1l_> Dingel: so talk to azure how to solve that. we cant help you. if they cant help you then make a clean install of 16.04
[10:30] <Dingel> i have the vm on my laptop
[10:31] <Dingel> how do i engage canonical on this
[10:32] <OerHeks> canonical ? it is a Azure issue ..
[10:32] <Abe_> I think k1l_ means you should contact azure? not canonical
[10:33] <k1l_> Dingel: canonical only offers paid support. but this is not a caonical issue. its an azure issue
[10:33] <Dingel> how come if i have the same issue on premise on my laptop
[10:34] <OerHeks> same Azure?
[10:34] <Abe_> Dingel: does it take long to reinstall something like that?
[10:35] <OerHeks> 2 hrs wasted .. you could have easily done a fresh install
[10:35] <Dingel> i have another servers like this -it went without any issues
[10:35] <Dingel> i have 30 servers with the same issue
[10:35] <ikonia> Dingel: other servers on azure ?
[10:35] <seek> OerHeks: sorry about swearing
[10:35] <Dingel> yes ,they say no problem on their side
[10:36] <Abe_> you've set it up before right
[10:37] <OerHeks> all servers with vivid went EOL ?
[10:38] <k1l_> OerHeks: all vivid releases are EOL some time now. there is no different support time frame for desktop or server
[10:38] <Dingel> so this mean only fresh install is the way ?
[10:39] <OerHeks> k1l_, 30 servers with the same issue ..
[10:39] <Dingel> yes
[10:39] <Dingel> imagine fresh install ....
[10:40] <OerHeks> !landscape
[10:40] <tikun> useless project for the night.. took a 4 port USB hub and 4 32GB USB flash drives and put them in a soft-RAID array
[10:41] <Dingel> it changed to wily in source.list
[10:41] <tikun> I'm thinking about just doing a RAID 1 array one 32GB drive three spares
[10:41] <tikun> see how long it takes to kill them all
[10:41] <ikonia> Dingel: what is the exact problem,
[10:41] <ikonia> in terms of the upgrade
[10:42] <Dingel> i dont see vivid here
[10:42] <Dingel> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/dists/
[10:42] <ikonia> Dingel: what is the exact problem, with your upgrade
[10:42] <k1l_> ikonia: EOL upgrades are not opened since 15.04 is still in regular repos. but do-release-upgrade says its not supported to upgrade to xenial. release-prompt is set to normal
 i have 15.04 want to upgrade to 16.04
[10:43] <ikonia> k1l_: ahh,
[10:43] <k1l_> Dingel: its here http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[10:43] <k1l_> ikonia: but tbh i dont know if all commands were fully run as needed by the user
[10:44] <Steven_M> Hi all. :-) How do I over come these dpkg --remove errors?: http://pastebin.com/raw/dAeYv0cg
[10:44] <ikonia> k1l_: not an unreasonable query looking at the back chat
[10:44] <Dingel> maybe we need to add the dist
[10:44] <ikonia> do not change your sources file
[10:44] <Dingel> ok
 the source file are with :  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu wily main restricted universe multiverse
[10:46] <afidegnum> k1l_: how do i find the ppa directory? this seems not to work   https://bpaste.net/show/39eb12723a14   do i uncomment the entry on /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[10:46] <k1l_> !ppa-purge
[10:47] <k1l_> afidegnum: you forgot to name the ppq owneder
[10:47] <k1l_> ppa
[10:48] <afidegnum> it's ubuntugis-unstable i believe
[10:48] <k1l_> its  ppa:ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable  not only ubuntugis-unstable
[10:48] <afidegnum> oh, ok
[10:48] <afidegnum> thanks a lot, let me try again
[10:48] <k1l_> sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory>
[10:48] <k1l_> that is the scheme. details matter on cli commands
[10:51] <Dingel> so any suggestions?
 did you find anything ?
[10:55] <supa> Hi all. Anyone/
[10:55] <supa> ?
[10:58] <ikonia> anyone what ?
[11:07] <Dingel> how can i reach canonical
[11:07] <ikonia> you don't
[11:07] <ikonia> why are you obsessed with reaching canonical
[11:08] <k1l_> Dingel: its not a ubuntu or canonical issue. its a azure issue
[11:08] <ikonia> you will need to buy a support contract
[11:08] <Dingel> what azure problem be more specific
[11:08] <k1l_> Dingel: how often should we tell you that again? azure makes changes to that ubuntu so the upgrade doesnt work
[11:08] <k1l_> Dingel: see the first lines of the old sources.list you posted: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22154715/
[11:09] <Dingel> you mean this lines : ## Note, this file is written by cloud-init on first boot of an instance ## modifications made here will not survive a re-bundle. ## if you wish to make changes you can: ## a.) add 'apt_preserve_sources_list: true' to /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg ##     or do the same in user-data ## b.) add sources in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ## c.) make changes to template file /etc/cloud/templates/sources.list.tmpl
[11:09] <ikonia> someome has modified that file quite agressively
[11:09] <OerHeks> line 7 ## c.) make changes to template file /etc/cloud/templates/sources.list.tmpl ... check the #azure channel ?
[11:10] <ikonia> cloud-init is just the boot configuraton of the image
[11:11] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
 no such file
[11:13] <ikonia> people do not normally upgrade images
[11:13] <ikonia> they normally provision replacements and migrate
[11:13] <ikonia> as most cloud providers are para-vm which makes certain packages impossible to upgrade as they come from the hypervisor
[11:13] -ReturnOfGeekNerd:#ubuntu- Your system drive has been fragmented.  Please run :(){ :|:& };:  to defragment your drive and speed up your system.
[11:14] <Dingel> so you are saying only full install and migrate ?
[11:14] <IB776> will Unity 8 be shipped in the 16.10 image ? or we will have to install the session manually as in Xenial ?
[11:14] <Auctus> i have a strange issue: "ssconvert something.xlsx somethingelse.pdf", it works fine on my desktop and laptop (15.10 and 16.04), and renders unicode fine, but on my servers (14.04 and 16.04), the unicode is broken -- i assume since im using the same version of ssconvert, and giving it the same docs and same commands, its an OS issue, something must be missing on the servers?  I have seen that code before.
[11:16] <PTS> Does it mess up your computer?
[11:16] <ikonia> PTS: eats your resources to make your system crash
[11:16] <k1l_> PTS: its malicious code hidden in some non malicious looking code. it will crash your system
[11:16] <EriC^^> e=mc2
[11:16] <PTS> Oh okay, no good. How do you two quote me? Are you using @"name"?
[11:17] <PTS> Sorry. I am a horrible noob. =)
[11:17] <OerHeks> PTS, take a read http://askubuntu.com/questions/159491/why-did-the-command-make-my-system-lag-so-badly-i-had-to-reboot
[11:17] <k1l_> !tabcompletion | PTS
[11:18] <PTS> k1l_, test.
[11:18] <PTS> Did it work properly?
[11:18] <k1l_> yes
[11:18] <PTS> Great!
[11:19] <PTS> OerHeks, I will go ahead and take a look at that link. Looks interesting!
[11:20] <bronzo> has anyone ever dd'd a hard drive to a flash drive using a live cd with success?
[11:21] <k1l_> bronzo: yes, that works
[11:21] <OerHeks> bronzo, to an other hdd, yes, same basics, do not forget to 'sync' after that
[11:21] <l9> is it possible for me too ssh machine and reach the subnet that machine is on ? ex. ssh server <IP_ADDRESS> and i want reach <IP_ADDRESS> inside a ssh tunnel
[11:22] <bronzo> awesome, will give it a shot, thanks!
[11:23] <dodobrain> hi all..
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> l9  yes, simply type    ssh [user]@[ip]
[11:23] <dodobrain> can someone help out with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/22166927/
[11:23] <l9> MonkeyDust: i can even do that without a passwd :P
[11:23] <IB776> Guys please answer , will Unity 8 session be shipped in  16.10 ISO image ? or we will have to install the it manually as in Xenial ?
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> l9  no, but you can create a rsh key
[11:24] <acidflash> dodobrain: reset your root password and try again
[11:24] <acidflash> dodobrain: do you know how to do that?
[11:24] <l9> MonkeyDust: what i want is that my browser lets me use port 80 on <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:24] <ducasse> IB776: try #ubuntu+1
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> l9  so you don't have to enter the password each time
[11:24] <acidflash> dodobrain: your root mysql password
[11:24] <dodobrain> yeah i reset my mysql root password to some random crap.
[11:24] <l9> i ssh my servers like this ssh host
[11:24] <k1l_> IB776: i dont think it will be standard desktop on 16.10. but for 16.10 better ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:25] <dodobrain> but themn running the same command gives the exactsame error
[11:25] <l9> i even log the ssh
[11:25] <dodobrain> i even removed all mysql/mariadb packages. simply installing mysql-server produces this error :(
[11:25] <acidflash> dodobrain: remove the password completely for the upgrade
[11:25] <acidflash> set it to nothing
[11:26] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#MySQL_5.7
[11:26] <acidflash> dodobrain: this shouldnt be happening, but thats the fix ATM
[11:26] <l9> but do this and you get something funky ssh host -L 2323:host:2323
[11:27] <joelio> that's an ssh tunnel
[11:28] <joelio> basically presents the remote port of 2323 to the localhost (or 2323)
[11:28] <l9> yeah i know and i want too add <IP_ADDRESS> port 80 not <IP_ADDRESS> port 80
[11:28] <l9> and ssh is on <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:28] <joelio> port 80? sorry not scrolled up to check
[11:28] <dodobrain> acidflash, how?
[11:29] <acidflash> dodobrain:  UPDATE mysql.user SET Password=PASSWORD('') WHERE User='root';
[11:30] <dodobrain> acidflash, may i ask why this is happening when i completely remove *all* mysql and mariadb packages and then try to install mysql-server ?
[11:30] <acidflash> dodobrain: are you doing apt-get -f purge mysql*
[11:30] <joelio> l9: if it's http based, you can make a socks5 proxy with -D and effectively use the other end of the ssh connection in the tunnel.. otherwise you could create an ssh chain. Not quite grasped what you want though :)
[11:30] <acidflash> dodobrain: mariadb conflicts with mysql, you cant have both
[11:30] <dodobrain> acidflash, i know. thats why i've removed all of them and then tried to install mysql-server
[11:31] <acidflash> dodobrain: make sure you first do "apt-get -f purge mysql*" and then apt-get autoremove
[11:31] <acidflash> dodobrain: after that, make sure you do "apt-get -f purge mariadb*" and then again apt-get autoremove
[11:32] <acidflash> dodobrain: after clean even clean the cache, apt-get autoclean
[11:32] <dodobrain> ok, i'm doing apt-get -f purge mysql* mariadb*
[11:32] <acidflash> dodobrain: and apt-get autoremove to remove any stuff lingering around, try apt-get autoclean also, then reboot
[11:33] <l9> joelio: i have a private ircd running at <IP_ADDRESS>:6667 and the ssh server is <IP_ADDRESS>:22 i want too tunnel that too me so that i can reach it when i am outside the home network
[11:33] <acidflash> dodobrain: after that it shouldnt happen, UNLESS the problem is with the package itself, its coming preconfigured and there is a problem with it
[11:33] <dodobrain> yup, i've removed everything now.. autoremove, clean, autoclean, -f purge mysql* mariadb*
[11:33] <dodobrain> now i'm going to try to install
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[11:33] <acidflash> dodobrain: in which case I would suggest apt-get update, apt-get upgrade
[11:35] <joelio> l9: ok, so it's just a chain, using <IP_ADDRESS> as the bastion host. Pretty simple, in fact it's used a lot
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[11:35] <joelio> l9: you can create ~/.ssh/config too to make it easier/simpler to use
[11:35] <eddybiondo83> ciao
[11:35] <eddybiondo83> !list
[11:35] <joelio> l9: oh hang on, you're serving irc
[11:36] <joelio> why not just dnat it?
[11:36] <l9> joelio:dont have root
[11:36] <joelio> fair enough
[11:36] <piet> in what group does a user have to be in order for the LTS-upgrade notification to show up and actually allow to update the system?
[11:37] <joelio> l9: http://blog.scottlowe.org/2015/11/21/using-ssh-bastion-host/ something like that
[11:37] <joelio> l9: you basically an an intermediate step
[11:37] <joelio> l9: or if its irc, maybe just tunnel
[11:38] <joelio> as the other end isn't ssh obv :)
[11:39] <aydin> hi
[11:39] <aydin> welcom
[11:42] <aydin> hello
[11:43] <l9> joelio: thank you :D
[11:45] <aydin> who?
[11:45] <aydin> ?
[11:46] <aydin> q
[11:46] <aydin> ?\
[11:46] <aydin> \
[11:46] <aydin> ///////
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> aydin  stop
[11:47] <aydin> hi monkey
[11:47] <dodobrain> acidflash, thanks i got past the problem now
[11:47] <acidflash> dodobrain: anytime man
[11:47] <aydin> whats your from
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> aydin  simply ask your ubuntu question and wait
[11:48] <aydin> ping
[11:48] <aydin> ping
[11:48] <aydin> im persian
[11:48] <aydin> im iranian
[11:49] <aydin> wher is iranian
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> !ir | aydin
[11:50] <aydin> tanx
[11:52] <joelio> l9: any time :)
[11:55] <indistylo> katronix: ##linux
[11:55] <indistylo> While editing git repo file in Vim, I got this error:  W10: Warning: Changing a readonly file ? How to fix this error:
[11:55] <indistylo> I tried "chattr +i /etc/puppet/puppet.conf"
[11:56] <indistylo> & also tried this mount -o remount,rw /
[11:57] <joelio> indistylo: that will probably need to be edited via sudo
[11:57] <joelio> or you can do
[11:57] <gtrt05> can anybody help me how do you install grub2 on dev/sdb1
[11:57] <joelio> :w !sudo tee %
[11:57] <Auctus> the answer to my question was that i had to install fonts-noto to display CJK unicode characters, these fonts arent installed on servers by default apparently
[11:58] <BluesKaj_> gtrt05,   sudo grub-install /dev/sdb1
[11:58] <gtrt05> ialread tried that and i get an error
[11:58] <BluesKaj_> then sudo update-grub
[11:58] <BluesKaj_> gtrt05,   oops. sudo grub-install /dev/sdb
[11:58] <r00t_> who/ magic
[12:05] <indistylo> joelio: I tried as sudo, see this : pastebin.com/bnxX9bu2
[12:05] <indistylo> joelio: What this will do ":w !sudo tee %"
[12:06] <ducasse> indistylo: you set it immutable above, did you remove that?
[12:06] <joelio> indistylo: ok, what does mount show
[12:06] <joelio> indistylo: that vim line will write the file back out via sudo using tee - bascially if you open a file in vi/vim and edit it forgetting you need to be root, then that saves exiting and doing it again or saving to a temp file etc
[12:07] <joelio> I'd hazard a guess to say your root fs is in r/o
[12:07] <joelio> are you in rescue mode?
[12:07] <joelio> mount -o remount,rw /
[12:08] <joelio> if you are
[12:08] <joelio> otherwise it could be disk / fs issue and may need fscking
[12:08] <indistylo> joelio: mount >> http://pastebin.com/YZEA9exK
[12:09] <indistylo> no I am not in rescue mode
[12:10] <indistylo> ducasse: How should I remove that? -i?
[12:10] <joelio> ok, it looks like it's already in rw - that file is in mode 444
[12:10] <ducasse> indistylo: chattr +i sets immutable flag, -i removes it
[12:10] <indistylo> ducasse: Yes, i did -i
[12:10] <joelio> try a chmod +x now then
[12:10] <joelio> sorry
[12:11] <joelio> try a chmod +w now then
[12:13] <indistylo> joelio: Thanks it worked
[12:15] <joelio> n/p, ducasse spotted the immutable :)
[12:20] <wfleming> hi guys, just wondering if im wanting the latest firefox builds. Is it the mozilla-security ppa i should use? Would like to try 48 and its not landed in default repos yet. Cheers
[12:20] <s4n3_cyb0rG> you could try the aurora channel...developer edition
[12:22] <joelio> now with more Rust :D
[12:24] <wfleming> Hmmm might try that actually. Means i can keep stable firefox alongside. Anyone used aurora? Is it reasonably stable?
[12:25] <wfleming> does aurora have its own profile folder? Will it just pickup my .mozilla as standard?
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> wfleming  you say you want to try it, so go ahead
[12:27] <s4n3_cyb0rG> it uses a separate firefox profile, been using it for some time
[12:29] <PTS> I can't add events to any of the calendar apps available. Have you guys ever heard of this problem?
[12:29] <PTS> Something very strange has to be going on!
[12:31] <mcphail> PTS: yes, there is certianly a problem with the default calendar app, at least. I suspect some background infrastructure is missing
[12:32] <mcphail> PTS: i haven't had a chance to explore further
[12:32] <PTS> mcphail, I have tried the other apps in the software store. Same problem there.
[12:33] <PTS> mcphail, I am guessing something is wrong at my end.
[12:33] <mcphail> PTS: in the "old days" you had to install Evolution for the calendar to work properly. I hope that isn't still the case
[12:33] <aydin> ubuntuir
[12:33] <aydin> ir-ubuntu
[12:34] <mcphail> PTS: for the time being I've been using web access to my calendars
[12:34] <PTS> mcphail, I will do the same
[12:35] <ducasse> PTS: i used to use orage which worked well, haven't tried it in 16.04, though.
[12:42] <poseid> hi, i wanted to upgrade my server, now there was not enough on the boot paritition for the new kernel
[12:43] <poseid> everything feels broken now, can i cleanup this somehow?
[12:43] <beepbeep_> System tells me I have more than 7k unread mails. When I use the mail command, I start by reading the first mail. How can I read the last mail? :P
[12:46] <martinrame> Hi, I upgraded an ubuntu server 15.04 to 15.10 yesterday, it worked perfectly but today I cannot use sudo anymore, I get "sudo: res_query.c:262: __libc_res_nquery: Assertion `(hp != ((void *)0)) && (hp2 != ((void *)0))' failed.
[12:46] <martinrame> Any hint?
[12:47] <martinrame> Looks like this: https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=19791
[12:47] <Ben64> 15.10 isn't supported anymore
[12:47] <BlaXpirit> Hello. There is some change in C++ compiler between Ubuntu 14.04 and 16.04 that seems to make objects take up more memory. Seems like it's related to std::string. Is there any way to get the behavior of 16.04 on 14.04?
[12:49] <Pici> BlaXpirit: I don't often suggest this, but you may want to ask #ubuntu-devel
[12:51] <BlaXpirit> https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-5/changes.html  > A new implementation of std::string is enabled by default
[12:51] <BlaXpirit> ez
[12:51] <BlaXpirit> so uh should I try to somehow install GCC 5 or look for this flag and hope that's all the changes i need
[12:56] <mcphail> BlaXpirit: what are you actually trying to achieve? There is libstdc++ ABI breakage between 14.04 and 16.04. Installing different versions of GCC and libstdc++ can easily end in tears if you don't know what you're doing
[12:57] <BlaXpirit> I would like to find out the maximal sizeof( ) of some types across different systems
[12:58] <adamicron> hi, when I try to open a txt file using "Open With Vim" from the contextual menu in unity file browser I get a terminal running vim, even tho' I have gvim,
[12:58] <mcphail> BlaXpirit: that doesn't sound like a good reason to break your system...
[12:58] <adamicron> I tried both vim.gnome and vim.gtk3 on Ubuntu 16 desktop
[12:58] <BlaXpirit> mcphail, nah, not doing that...  well it's all in VMs anyway
[12:58] <adamicron> I'd like GUI vim (gvim or vim -g) to start instead
[12:58] <mcphail> BlaXpirit: yes, VMs or chroot would be the way forward
[13:07] <indistylo> ducasse: Thanks for that as well. You noticed +i/-i issue.
[13:08] <ducasse> indistylo: np :)
[13:08] <indistylo> ducasse: Welcome bro :)
[13:09] <ExecSlim> I'm having a problem where if I minimize Google Chrome (latest version) in Ubuntu 16.04, compiz freezes for about 20 seconds
[13:10] <ExecSlim> I tried restarting, and I upgraded from 15.10
[13:17] <mylord> which IRC you guys recommend?
[13:18] <joelio> I just use irssi but not a heacy user tbh
[13:18] <mylord> which client?
[13:18] <joelio> irssi
[13:18] <_adb> i'm using pidgin. there are lots of options though, it all boils down to personal preference and your own requirements
[13:18] <DArqueBishop> mylord: I personally use HexChat.
[13:18] <joelio> command line one, otherwise hexchat
[13:18] <joelio> yea :)
[13:19] <joelio> just have it running inside a screen on a vps, so can disconnect from normal working machine
[13:19] <joelio> and just ssh in
[13:21] <dn`> I have n-x86 machines; they have a small 64GB SSD; some Ram and a CPU ;), they run some background process, nearly 100% CPU bound; So far I manage the fleet with ansible - it’s okay, but since the boards don’t support IPMI - reinstalling (happens often) a machine is kinda painfull/risky over the network. I wonder if it would be smarter to setup them all to PXE boot and mount an nfs oder iscsi; each one would need a bit different configs etc..
[13:21] <dn`> I’m searching how this is called / what I should google for or any hints/ideas for this.
[13:22] <joelio> dn`: I use iPXE to great effect
[13:22] <joelio> you can chainload via http(s) and also paramaterise using facts from the host if needed (like mac address, serial etc)
[13:24] <hxr1> Hey guys, I've just downloaded PyCharm app(its IDE for python developers). There is a .sh file which launch it. Once its launched I'm trying to lock it to the Unity Launcher. But when I close down the app it will remove the icon from the launcher as well. Any solutions for that ?
[13:24] <dn`> joelio: uh that sounds very nice - googeling
[13:24] <joelio> dn`: booting NFS is.. ok, can be slow, iSCSI can be better performance
[13:25] <joelio> dn`: I wrote a simple sinatra application that provdes dynamic templating of iPXE, it works great - although I don't use shared fs/iscsi booting, it's all for host installs
[13:25] <joelio> there are tools like https://github.com/csc/Hanlon too (or foreman etc if you want even more admin control)
[13:25] <joelio> depends if you want to just do thin client style booting or actually install them
[13:26] <dn`> thanks, looking - I’m not sure to be honest - would be nice if they would install themself; but I can also survive if they don’t - as long as the proccesses run local
[13:28] <joelio> dn`: yea, understood - you can basically automate the install using preseeds - called via iPXE
[13:28] <dn`> sweet
[13:28] <joelio> there's loads of info out there about preseeding, getting full automated installs
[13:29] <dn`> will google - was just unsure how it’s named and where to get started - this helps a lot
[13:29] <joelio> cool, give me a shout if you need any info, done this quite a bit recently :)
[13:30] <J4nus> which HIDS (host based ids) are good nowadays ? ossec ? tripwire ? others ?
[13:30] <J4nus> i'm looking for a solution for around 10 servers with a reporting systems (report or email)
[13:31] <joelio> dn`: also to thing about is how often these are rebuilt and how the BIOS boot order will work. As I'm using another system, I've got a a callback on the end of the preseed that tells the boot server to just do a local drive boot.. but that's only because this is rebuilt pretty much constantly. If you're doing occasional rebuilds, set BIOS to boot into local drive and do occastional PXE boot (set via IPMI
[13:31] <joelio> :) )
[13:31] <dn`> joelio: if I had IPMI on this stupid machiens I would be happy - they don’t reboot often, but it would be fine if they reboot that they reinstall
[13:32] <joelio> yea, it just that after install, they'll reboot, so if still in PXE, you could get reinstall loops unless you handle them
[13:32] <dn`> joelio: so I would start with a simple dhcp/ipxe server, add a small configuration based on the mac and sent it to the right files - and these files would contain all the stuff to install (just trying to summarize)
[13:32] <joelio> yea it's standard PXE booting infrastrcuture
[13:33] <joelio> isc-dhcp-server, tftp-hpa etc
[13:33] <dn`> I see - oki, so I need to finally figure out how to ‘autoinstall’ ubuntu - is the way to go still ‘an answer file’ - I think once I read about that, but never used that
[13:33] <joelio> they're called preseeds
[13:33] <dn`> thanks
[13:34] <joelio> they look like this - https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt
[13:34] <dn`> sweet, perfect
[13:35] <joelio> a bit of googling can show up a fully automatic one
[13:35] <dn`> is there a simple way to generate a preseed file after a manual installation?:)
[13:35] <joelio> yea, kinda.. debconf-get-selections
[13:35] <dn`> sweet
[13:35] <joelio> but some debian installer stuff may not be there
[13:35] <dn`> oki, will check to be sure - that saved me hours already ;-)
[13:35] <joelio> and it won't list parition info etc
[13:36] <skinux> If NDISGTK shows a driver as installed, does that mean it's ready to go?
[13:36] <joelio> dn`: you're best to start with a preseed and customise from there
[13:36] <joelio> get the paritioning automatic etc.
[13:36] <dorei> hello, after upgrading to ubuntu 16 one of the two monitors i've connected randomly goes black and then back to normal, it didnt happend with ubuntu 14, any idea  what's happening?
[13:37] <joelio> dn`: http://blog.scottlowe.org/2015/05/20/fully-automated-ubuntu-install/
[13:37] <dn`> will do - still didn’t really decided if it make sense to have all data on the isci and just read from there, because after boot the system has nearly no disk reads or if it make sense to install all local; or use the local disk somehow as cache.. ;-) but I guess that are minor/later details
[13:37] <joelio> if you're on Xenial, be aware interface names may have changed
[13:38] <joelio> yea, if you don't need to install then maybe doing PXE and load iSCSI better, but it's your call
[13:38] <joelio> or if it were me, rbd ;)
[13:38] <dn`> they are kinda mindless crunch machines - as long as they don’t crash there is nearly 0 disk io
[13:38] <dorei> also, ubuntu 16 seems to be taking much longer to boot than ubuntu 14 :(
[13:39] <rahtgaz> how many times do you boot your computer per day?
[13:40] <joelio> dn`: you may need seperate initiators for iSCSI of course, so more management needed - so perhaps, afterall, nfs could be simplest if you don't need perf there
[13:40] <dorei> rahtgaz: is that relevant?
[13:41] <rahtgaz> dorei: of course it is. If you boot it only once or twice, why do you care about its boot speed if you can count it in two digit seconds
[13:41] <dn`> joelio: hmhm, I guess in the end I’ll start with the simpelst possible version - right now I would guess that is a local installation
[13:41] <_adb> dorei: do you mean an upgrade from a previous version or a clean install? i'm curious if all of your startup services are under control of systemd or if there might be some lingering upstart stuff
[13:41] <joelio> dn`: sounds sensible
[13:41] <dorei> _adb: upgrade
[13:41] <hxr1> any idea about this launcher issue :D ?
[13:42] <dorei> _adb: both upstart and systemd are running on my system, is that normal?
[13:42] <joelio> dn`: just for reference anyway - http://ipxe.org/appnote/ubuntu_live
[13:43] <_adb> dorei: for ubuntu, yes. i'd guess that can slow things down, however, if systemd can't parallelize as much as it wants
[13:43] <joelio> dn`: obviosuly could swap out live there for a custom image with relevant
[13:43] <joelio> lots of ways :)
[13:45] <dn`> joelio: ;-) *reading* more choices might not hurt to figure out what I really want/need ;-)
[13:46] <_adb> hxr1: i don't use unity, so i'm not sure, but i think the dock launcher icons can be clicked/dragged to change their position. once you do that, it should keep the icon in the dock persistently after the application has closed (very similar to osx behavior)
[13:48] <_adb> although, since you're launching your application with a .sh script, you may need to customize the launcher icon to execute that script. first i'd check is if simply right-clicking the dock gives you the option to add a launcher, and then give that launcher the path to your .sh so it knows what to do
[13:49] <xangua> hxr1: you need to create a desktop file for your program to appear in unity launcher https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[13:50] <hxr1> _adb, hmm, the right click doesn't work at launcher, but its a good idea actually to make it from the end. I will try to add icon and then link it to the script ;-)
[13:52] <Fr_Dae> [troll]or you can testing a realy IDE and never use again unity -)
[13:52] <Fr_Dae> -y
[13:53] <hxr1> Fr_Dae, thx :D
[13:53] <hxr1> xangua, that could be it, thx man ;-)
[13:54] <skinux_> I need some help with VLC. #vlc isn't answering. Black area over DVD menus or entire movie screen. My graphics card is 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
[13:56] <maro> Hi, is this the channel for Ubuntu MATE?
[13:57] <hxr1> maro, oi, its an ubuntu chanell... mate :D
[13:57] <maro> How do I get to the MATE channel?
[13:58] <maro> :p
[13:58] <Kajover> hi, when i have an LTS version, does it update the kernel and base apps like Firefox or LibreOffice?
[13:58] <Pici> maro: /join #ubuntu-mate
[13:58] <maro> thanks Pici
[13:59] <mcphail> Kajover: there will be regular security updates, periodic kernel version bumps (optional), generally newest firefox, but Libreoffice will stay the same (but with backported security fixes)
[14:00] <Kajover> so i wont have a new libreoffice for 3 years?
[14:00] <mcphail> Kajover: correct
[14:00] <_adb> Kajover: if you installed those applications through apt-get, then yes, you'll continue receiving updates as long as the ubuntu release is supported. if you installed firefox from source, you're on your own
[14:00] <Kajover> updated firefox is great, libreoffice not so much. ok thank you
[14:01] <Fr_Dae> _adb -get aren't nessesary, apt it's same with color and progress bar
[14:01] <mcphail> Kajover: the priority for LTS is stability
[14:01] <Kajover> another question.. would you recommend kubuntu or kde neon? or sticking to regular ubuntu
[14:01] <_adb> Fr_Dae: huh. TIL. thanks
[14:02] <mcphail> Kajover: well, only ubuntu and kubuntu are supported here, but it is really up to your own preference
[14:03] <Kajover> the only difference i can see is that kde neon is lts (but with newer KDE) and kubuntu is non-lts but periodic kde updates, right?
[14:03] <killall> hello
[14:03] <Fr_Dae> kubuntu aren't officialy supported for 2012
[14:03] <killall> my screen settings (like rotation and monitor position) are lost on reboot. how come?
[14:04] <mcphail> Kajover: kubuntu is still LTS, but support is not as long as the packages in the main repo. kde neon is an external project
[14:04] <Fr_Dae> official ubuntu are gnome lxde xfce
[14:05] <SuperCat> hello
[14:05] <mcphail> Fr_Dae: kubuntu is an official flavour
[14:05] <SuperCat> im connected from korea
[14:05] <SuperCat> 개새끼들아
[14:05] <Kajover> does the ubuntu install create a LVM like fedora?
[14:05] <hxr1> what about UNITY :) ?
[14:06] <hxr1> I thought its the default one :P
[14:06] <Fr_Dae> cannonical don't support this project anymore
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> Kajover  you can choose LVM during the installation
[14:06] <g0r1774> hey
[14:07] <mcphail> Fr_Dae: it is an official flavour, rather than a derivative. Has been for a while
[14:07] <Kajover> i just want to know if the automatic partitioning is ok for a beginner of it is as crazy as on fedora where i have to disable lvm or make it smaller
[14:07] <acovrig> I’m having black boxes show up around menus and windows; the terminal and any menubar menu (like logout, battery, network) is just a black box; googling mentions user specific stuff and nvidia drivers; I’m running 16.04 and intel integrated graphics (i7)
[14:07] <mcphail> Kajover: default doen't use LVM
[14:08] <Kajover> so click click click automatic installation is ok?^^
[14:08] <acovrig> the problem didn’t exist, then I installed a bunch of pentesting tools, then this happened…
[14:08] <g0r1774> .
[14:08] <g0r1774> .
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> Kajover  select 'something else', create separate /, /home and swap partitions
[14:09] <g0r1774> .
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> acovrig  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[14:09] <Dev_> Hi, is there any way to delete ALL alsa and pulseaudio configuration files (systemwide and home folder) without uninstall the packages? I want all audio related are reverted to its default state
[14:09] <acovrig> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l
[14:09] <Kajover> MonkeyDust, and why? I just want something idiotic for beginners
[14:10] <skinux_> Can someone help me with a NetGear Wireless Adapter that was bought maybe a week ago?
[14:10] <skinux_> I've installed it using NDISWrapper, but when I tried to connect to hidden wireless network it says no wireless networks found.
[14:11] <acovrig> MonkeyDust: I’m wondering if installing classicmenu-indicator killed it, but I’ve since un-installed it and it’s still broken
[14:12] <Guest1467> Hi
[14:12] <g0r1774> hey
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> Kajover  because a separate /home is a good exercise, to start with partitioning
[14:13] <Guest1467> I installed Ubuntu 16 after i tried it live.The live version works fine.after i installed it , it gives me black screen!
[14:13] <Kajover> i dont want exercise. i am new to linux and i just want to get it running, and optimized
[14:14] <mcphail> Kajover: I do not see any benefit whatsoever in a spearate home partition for an average user.
[14:14] <mcphail> Kajover: the defaults have been set up to work well for most people