[12:07] <intelikey> apt-cache search <what-ever>
[12:08] <timi> yeah apt cahce search kde
[12:08] <timi> when your using kde does turn out so well
[12:08] <draik> LOL
[12:08] <intelikey> normally dev  but sometimes  headers    you can filter with  | grep -ie <what_to_see>
[12:08] <draik> apt-cache search beer
[12:09] <intelikey> qbrew - Homebrewer's recipe calculator (uses Qt)
[12:09] <intelikey> ha  ha   and ha.
[12:10] <intelikey> @draik
[12:10] <draik> intelikey, I had to
[12:10] <draik> I'm wishing it was friday right now
[12:10] <intelikey> was just pointing out that even  "apt-cache search beer"  was in the repos.
[12:11] <draik> I wonder....
[12:12] <draik> xmms-wmdiscotux
[12:12] <draik> Dancing Penguin to XMMS
[12:12] <draik> SWEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!
[12:13] <GIGANTOR> byyyyeee
[12:13] <GIGANTOR> ;)
[12:13] <locoblade> hey guys quick question
[12:14] <locoblade> how do you have a program start up when linux starts up?
[12:14] <intelikey> locoblade init scripts
[12:14] <locoblade> like in windows where you just drag it to the startup folder
[12:14] <locoblade> init scripts?
[12:15] <intelikey> locoblade you want it to start on login or boot up ?
[12:15] <locoblade> login i suppose
[12:15] <locoblade> it's gaim
[12:15] <intelikey> add the command (or a link to it) to ~/.kde/Autostart   iirc
[12:16] <locoblade> ok
[12:16] <locoblade> thanks
[12:16] <locoblade> another question while im here
[12:16] <intelikey> ln -s /usr/bin/gaim ~/.kde/Autostart/gaim    maybe.
[12:16] <timi> alright im waiting for headers, it looks like this could take a while.
[12:16] <locoblade> cool
[12:17] <locoblade> is installing java as simple as apt-get install java package?
[12:17] <locoblade> i haven't restarted x server but that seems to easy
[12:17] <intelikey> timi yep you quickly learn to use the pre-build packages in the repos...  :)
[12:18] <intelikey> locoblade i thought java was installed by default on dapper systems....   but yes it's simple.
[12:18] <locoblade> oh
[12:18] <locoblade> maybe it is
[12:18] <BluesKaj> locoblade,use adept to install java
[12:19] <locoblade> i never thought that it might come with it
[12:19] <draik> locoblade, Adept is only at version 1.4... go to the java website and get the newer version
[12:19] <locoblade> yeah
[12:19] <intelikey> every time i'v installed dapper from the live cd i have immediately apt-get remove java   so it may only be default on the livecd install.....
[12:20] <locoblade> i'll do that
[12:20] <locoblade> it's not on the computer
[12:22] <draik> locoblade, here is a direct link... http://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp
[12:31] <timi> geez the download was 73megs
[12:31] <draik> for what/
[12:31] <draik> ?
[12:32] <timi> i need a kde lib or someting
[12:32] <timi> so i just installed all this kde lib stuff
[12:32] <timi> err kde header
[12:32] <draik> hope it works for you
[12:32] <timi> it better f-in work
[12:33] <timi> the instal is 141megs
[12:33] <draik> enjoy your body merging with your seat!
[12:34] <draik> timi, type '/sysinfo' please
[12:34] <timi> '/sysinfo'
[12:34] <timi> Sysinfo for 'timi-laptop': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU<EMAIL_ADDRESS>at 1997 MHz (4002 bogomips), , RAM: 986/1002MB, 110 proc's, 2.40h up
[12:34] <draik> minus the quotes
[12:34] <timi> sexy huh
[12:35] <draik> Sysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6432 bogomips), , RAM: 877/3031MB, 94 proc's, 1.51h up
[12:36] <draik> you're using 2.6.15-23? Never gotten the updates for 2.6.15-26?
[12:36] <BluesKaj> sysinfo
[12:37] <BluesKaj> oops
[12:37] <draik> lol
[12:37] <BluesKaj> Sysinfo for 'BEDROOM': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ at 995 MHz (1992 bogomips), HD: 38/146GB, RAM: 471/947MB, 95 proc's, 2.32h up
[12:37] <draik> BluesKaj, how do you get it to show your hdd?
[12:37] <cpk2> gaim doesnt support /sysinfo
[12:37] <BluesKaj> dunno
[12:38] <ranjan> sysinfo
[12:38] <draik> ranjan '/sysinfo'
[12:38] <ranjan> Sysinfo for 'agni': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3400+ at 2211 MHz (4427 bogomips), HD: 13/145GB, RAM: 1765/2026MB, 112 proc's, 9.21h up
[12:38] <ranjan> ty
[12:39] <draik> yw
[12:39] <draik> ranjan, would you know how to get HD to be displayed?
[12:39] <BluesKaj> far cry from my old bedroom system , 233 MMx 128Ram, 6G Hdd
[12:39] <ranjan> sure
[12:41] <cpk2> ranjan: only 9 hour uptime? psh =P
[12:41] <ranjan> yep
[12:41] <timi> how do iupdate
[12:42] <draik> timi, update what?
[12:42] <timi> just sudo apt-get update
[12:42] <draik> timi, yes
[12:42] <timi> mmk
[12:42] <draik> ranjan, how do you display the HD?
[12:42] <cpk2> timi: its sudo apt-get update and then after you do that you do sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:42] <ranjan> just typed '/sysinfo'
[12:43] <timi> yeah i know
[12:43] <timi> i did that like a day ago i thought
[12:43] <ranjan> power  cut in cali 9 hours back
[12:43] <timi> anyways how do inow if kubuntu is actually using both cores
[12:43] <timi> will it ust do that automatically
[12:44] <cpk2> ranjan: where at?
[12:44] <timi> cuz on windows when i used process manage it showed cpu ussage for bot cores ubuntu just shows one
[12:45] <cpk2> timi: maybe because it is just using one
[12:45] <timi> damn it i didnt get a dual core for nothing
[12:45] <draik> ranjan, I do '/sysinfo' but it won't show my HD like it did for yours
[12:45] <timi> anyone know how i get it to recognize both
[12:45] <cpk2> timi: pretty sure rebuild the kernel
[12:46] <timi> errr that sounds redonkulous
[12:46] <timi> i thing im good
[12:47] <cpk2> timi: shouldnt be too hard to recompile, there should be a walkthrough on the wiki i bet
[12:47] <BluesKaj> does yer HDD show up in the storage media folder?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> draik,
[12:48] <draik> BluesKaj
[12:48] <draik> yes
[12:48] <BluesKaj> strange eh?
[12:48] <timi> hey i just ./configured something
[12:48] <timi> and it finally worked
[12:48] <timi> it said i should start make
[12:49] <timi> do i just type make
[12:49] <timi> or sudo make
[12:49] <draik> yup
[12:49] <Hawkwind> make
[12:49] <draik> very strange
[12:49] <Hawkwind> sudo make install if make succeeds
[12:49] <timi> how do i know if it succeeds
[12:49] <timi> it didnt say error
[12:50] <jpiccolo> can anyone help me get my sound working
[12:51] <timi> i got it
[12:52] <archangel_> Hey guys I have a fresh install here, and I'm wondering why my web pages dont take up the full space of my browser
[12:52] <cpk2> archangel_: using konquerer?
[12:53] <BluesKaj> yer res is likely set too high
[12:53] <archangel_> cpk2: using both (kon. & firefox)
[12:54] <jpiccolo> why are the nvidia drivers so hard to set up
[12:55] <wolfmanz> ATI ones are a pain to
[12:55] <draik> I never had an issue with my nVidia
[12:55] <jpiccolo> motherboard or video card
[12:55] <draik> video card
[12:55] <cpk2> jpiccolo: just apt-get the drivers
[12:55] <jpiccolo> i am trying to get the chipset drivers to work
[12:55] <jpiccolo> chipset cpk2
[12:56] <jpiccolo> so i can listen to my 5.1 speakers
[12:56] <jpiccolo> can anyone help with that?
[12:56] <cpk2> jpiccolo: did you look on the manufacturers/nvidias site for source files?
[12:57] <jpiccolo> not the source files
[12:57] <jpiccolo> i installed the package
[12:57] <jpiccolo> from nvidia
[12:57] <jpiccolo> seemed to work fine
[12:57] <jpiccolo> but i get this error when i type nvmixer:
[12:58] <jpiccolo> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 154
[12:58] <jpiccolo>   Major opcode:  143
[12:58] <jpiccolo>   Minor opcode:  3
[12:58] <jpiccolo>   Resource id:  0x0
[12:58] <jpiccolo> Failed to open device
[12:58] <jpiccolo> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 154
[12:58] <jpiccolo>   Major opcode:  143
[12:58] <jpiccolo>   Minor opcode:  3
[12:58] <jpiccolo>   Resource id:  0x0
[12:58] <jpiccolo> Failed to open device
[12:59] <rr72> how do i get cups working properly so i can print from my windows machine?
[12:59] <jpiccolo> alsamixer
[12:59] <vervirt> Jemand deutsches hier der mir helfen kann?
[01:01] <dan> hey does anyone know why i cant hear any sound when i use amorak?
[01:02] <dan> the sound works when i use vlc to play movies
[01:02] <rr72> how do i set up cups so that i can print form other machines?
[01:02] <jpiccolo> dan are u using 5.1 or just standard out
[01:02] <dan> just standard
[01:03] <Philip5> Hawkwind: btw, the ./configure for libeet gets the same with easy e17 too so false alarm from my side... i just want this to be right before i do anything public
[01:03] <dan> but i've tried changing that
[01:03] <Hikaru79> O_O For some reason I'm banned from #php... and I've never even been there before.
[01:03] <Hikaru79> Can someone who happens to be in #php ask an op to unban my hostmask?
[01:04] <Rivelino> there ain't any ops
[01:05] <vervirt> JEMAND DEUTSCHES HIER?
[01:05] <dan> ich komme aus deutschland
[01:05] <vervirt> Kenste dich nen bischen aus mit Kubuntu?
[01:05] <Hikaru79> Oh =( Drat.
[01:05] <dan> nur ein bischen
[01:06] <vervirt> Ich kriege es nicht hin meine auflsung umzustellen.. weisste da was?
[01:06] <abattoir> !de
[01:06] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:06] <Hawkwind> !dutch
[01:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about dutch - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:06] <Hawkwind> Ermmm
[01:06] <Hawkwind> Dutch, German, it's all the same :P
[01:06] <dan> hasst du das gesehen, frag dort mal
[01:06] <dan> no its not
[01:07] <coachJ> can someone suggest a program to open corel files?
[01:07] <Hawkwind> dan: Regardless, it needs to be taken to the appropriate channel
[01:07] <dan> so still, i have no idea why my sound works with some programs and not with others
[01:07] <dan> i told him
[01:08] <vervirt> bin zu dumm fr linux glaubsch
[01:08] <dan> versuche #ubuntu-de
[01:08] <vervirt> da bin ich.. aber muss mich regn. aber will ich net^^
[01:08] <vervirt> weill bei mir alles bels gro ist^^
[01:09] <dan> tut mir leid aber ich kann dir warscheinlich nicht helfen
[01:09] <dan> so does anyone have any suggestions on my sound problem
[01:10] <draik> !print < rr72
[01:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about print < rr72 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:10] <draik> !print
[01:10] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:10] <cpk2> !sound
[01:10] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[01:10] <draik> !print > rr72
[01:10] <dan> ok cool
[01:10] <dan> thanx
[01:11] <draik> rr72, let me know if that works for you, I had/have issues with connectivity
[01:11] <dan> hmmm
[01:11] <jpiccolo> anyone have 5.1 sound?
[01:11] <dan> well my sound works just not with amorak
[01:12] <draik> jpiccolo, I have 5.1 and everything works fine
[01:12] <jpiccolo> draik, is it with the nforce chipset?
[01:12] <draik> nope
[01:12] <draik> I have onboard 5.1 audio support
[01:13] <draik> my motherboard is the Abit VT7
[01:13] <acojlo> How can I resolve : couldn't open fontconfigs chosen font with Xft!!! from .xsession-errors ?
[01:13] <draik> I built this desktop, and I updated the BIOS and all, but don't recall ever having an issue/upgrade with the audio
[01:14] <patrick_> Heh guys, I need help setting up VNC4server on Kubuntu 6.06 - everything installed but I get a grey screen and a black X upon vncviewer localhost:1 - Help pleeeease!
[01:14] <rr72> draik~ how do i so it, i have cps but my windows machine can't pirnt to it
[01:14] <draik> This was back in 2003/2004
[01:15] <draik> rr72, did you go to the last link... print sharing with windows
[01:15] <draik> !print > rr72
[01:15] <rr72> the printer works in kubuntu just can't connect in windows
[01:15] <draik> did you follow the instructions?
[01:15] <rr72> it says network printing from xp i want to 2k
[01:15] <draik> same diff
[01:15] <rr72> i don't want to print to windows i want to print to kubuntu from windows
[01:16] <draik> where is the printer connected?
[01:16] <scabootssca> how do i mount my linux drive?
[01:16] <rr72> kubuntu
[01:16] <draik> so lemme see if I got this right....
[01:17] <draik> Printer--------Kubuntu----------------------router------------------------------win2k
[01:17] <draik> right?
[01:17] <rr72> no
[01:17] <rr72> lots more switches and computers in there
[01:17] <rr72> kubuntu goes to a switch that win2k connects to the switch as well
[01:18] <rr72> and the switch connects to a router
[01:18] <rr72> ill try the site
[01:18] <rr72> ty tho
[01:18] <draik> np
[01:18] <draik> what site?
[01:18] <draik> the one I sent you?
[01:18] <rr72> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[01:18] <draik> ok
[01:19] <draik> Anyone here done that?
[01:19] <ubuntu> should the filetype for the swap file be linux-swap?
[01:21] <Dasnipa`> ubotu, yes
[01:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about yes - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:21] <Dasnipa`> ubuntu yes
[01:21] <rr72> lol
[01:22] <Dasnipa`> erm mattttttt yes
[01:22] <rr72> in cupsd.conf i can use wildcards right?
[01:23] <mattttttt> just checking :)
[01:24] <mattttttt> when i hit continue 8 windows pop up saying "a new medium has been detected"
[01:24] <mattttttt> now what? >_<
[01:25] <scabootssca> where do i edit the lilo configuration?
[01:27] <mattttttt> "
[01:27] <mattttttt> Could not mount device.
[01:27] <mattttttt> The reported error was:
[01:27] <mattttttt> mount: can't find /dev/sda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:27] <mattttttt> "
[01:27] <scabootssca> where do i edit the lilo configuration?
[01:27] <mattttttt> hmm
[01:27] <mattttttt> that's what happens when i do "open in new window" for one of the boxes
[01:32] <Terrance> im comparing kubuntu to freespire.  can anyone outline some practical pros and cons to help me compare.
[01:34] <Terrance> !?
[01:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about ? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:34] <mattttttt> "the test of the file system with type fat16 in partition #1 of SCSl1 (0,0,0) (sda) found uncorrected errors"
[01:34] <mattttttt> eek.
[01:35] <patrick_> Heh guys, I need help setting up VNC4server on Kubuntu 6.06 - everything installed but I get a grey screen and a black X upon vncviewer localhost:1 - Help pleeeease!
[01:36] <driz_> hey guys how do i remove a program i installed usign wine I need disk space and i have a couple thing that are huge and they are in Wine...PLease help?
[01:37] <josh__> hi
[01:37] <josh__> i have 64 bit kubuntu
[01:38] <josh__> 6.06
[01:38] <josh__> and i can't hear any bass
[01:38] <Riddell> Terrance: kubuntu will send you CDs free of charge, linspire will try and trap you into giving them money with CnR, otherwise try them both and decide for yourself
[01:38] <josh__> the song quality is good and all but there just is no bass
[01:38] <h3sp4wn> driz_: Find out where the wine part is (maybe in .wine) and delete it
[01:38] <Terrance> freespire is 100% free though.  has apt get too.
[01:38] <coachJ> can someone tell me how to leunch open draw, it is installed according ti adept but is not on the menu?
[01:38] <driz_> ok
[01:39] <vervirt> Wie war der deutsche kubuntu chan noimma
[01:39] <Riddell> coachJ: launch any other part of open office and make a New drawing document
[01:40] <vervirt> hab schon
[01:40] <josh__> can anyone help me?
[01:40] <coachJ> checking
[01:40] <Terrance> id like 2 learn key differences practically speaking, between freespire and kubuntu.
[01:40] <timi> i spent all this time compilin kbootsplash and it doesnt work tear*
[01:40] <josh__> what other drivers could i use? alsa might be the problem
[01:41] <coachJ> Riddell: thks boy do I feel stupid!
[01:43] <Riddell> Terrance: they're both KDE based operating systems derived from Debian, they're both very similar
[01:43] <Terrance> pro's of freespire is see as easier dvd/mp3 out of the box.  a possibly con is auto update of the OS.  others!?
[01:44] <Riddell> Terrance: but kubuntu has dragons on it's homepage, which makes it cool.  and linspire is going bust.  take your pick
[01:44] <Terrance> linspire is going bust for sure?
[01:45] <Terrance> anyway freespire is a free version
[01:45] <Riddell> supported by people who pay for Click and Run
[01:46] <josh__> click and run pwns
[01:46] <josh__> at least it works most of the time...
[01:46] <driz_> h3sp4wn: I can't find it! I tried to open it but it wouldn't open
[01:46] <josh__> does anyone have any clue why i have no bass?
[01:49] <josh__> omg
[01:49] <josh__> adept won't let me change anything
[01:49] <Terrance> can anyone give me any key pros of kubuntu over freespire?
[01:50] <h3sp4wn> driz_: I dont know where it would be put (dont use wine)
[01:50] <driz_> I want to install Maplestory and i want to remove those other things in WINE so I would be able to play it
[01:51] <cpk2> whats freespire?
[01:51] <driz_> !freespire
[01:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about freespire - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:52] <Hawkwind> cpk2: Free version of LinSpire
[01:52] <josh__> guys it says adept is already running
[01:52] <josh__> this doesn't make sence
[01:52] <josh__> i just booted
[01:52] <josh__> so now i can't install packages
[01:52] <Hawkwind> So kill Adept
[01:52] <Terrance> google it spk2
[01:52] <josh__> how do i do that
[01:53] <ironfroggy> where can i look for causes for my wifi card to not be able to receive dhcp leases? the router is assigning an IP when i requested, but the laptop seems to not be aware of it and times out.
[01:53] <josh__> i tried sudo killall adept but that doesnt do anything either
[01:53] <ironfroggy> josh__: do you see adept listed in a ps -A?
[01:54] <josh__> yeah
[01:54] <rr72> why can't my printer print anymore?
[01:54] <ironfroggy> do you have it running in another session?
[01:54] <rr72> it accepts jobs but the compputer can't access it
[01:54] <ironfroggy> or on another desktop?
[01:54] <josh__> hmm
[01:54] <josh__> well i just booted
[01:55] <rr72> "Unable to open parallel port device file "/dev/lp0": Permission denied"
[01:55] <josh__> unless the root account is using it or something
[01:55] <ironfroggy> maybe the first time you tried to open it, you lost it in a different desktop.
[01:55] <josh__> nope, nothing else is running on the desktops
[01:55] <ironfroggy> any other virutal terminals being used?
[01:55] <josh__> is there any way to kill all running versions?
[01:55] <_greg> rr72, are you a member of the printer group?
[01:56] <driz_> YES!!! i got it it was pretty easy oh well
[01:56] <rr72> why wouldnt i be if i were able to print before?
[01:56] <thilak> is there a snagit alternartive for kubuntu
[01:56] <thilak> I just switched over to kubuntu full time
[01:56] <ironfroggy> josh__: you can kill -9 it as a last resort.
[01:56] <_greg> yeah, good question.
[01:56] <josh__> how do i do that
[01:56] <josh__> just type in kill -9?
[01:57] <ironfroggy> with the pid, yeah
[01:57] <josh__> pid?
[01:57] <rr72> process id
[01:57] <josh__> ok so whats the command i need to type in lol
[01:57] <josh__> pd kill -9?
[01:57] <scabootssca> anyone here have lilo installed?
[01:58] <cpk2> josh__: kill -9 pidhere
[01:58] <josh__> bash: kill: pidhere: arguments must be process or job IDs
[01:58] <josh__> got that error
[01:58] <rr72> how do i get info on my/a user to see what groups they belong too?
[01:58] <rr72> *to
[01:59] <ironfroggy> josh__: you actually typed "pidhere"? he meant "put the pid of the process you want to kill right here" not the actual word "pidhere"...
[01:59] <_greg> rr72, i used the user manager gui
[01:59] <josh__> i'm stupid guys
[01:59] <josh__> lol
[01:59] <josh__> i got linux 3 days ago
[01:59] <cpk2> josh__: lol when i said pidhere i meant to use the pid of adept... when you do ps aux on the far left just to the right of the user name there is a "pid"
[01:59] <josh__> i am an absolute n00b
[01:59] <rr72> _greg~ how do i do text based
[02:00] <_greg> rr72, don't know. is kde broken?
[02:01] <rr72> it was but i fixed it but im lazy to go to other comptuer so i ssh in
[02:01] <_greg> you can start an x session with ssh
[02:01] <josh__> k i want to close adept, what is the command i need, i can't assume what to add
[02:01] <rr72> that just causes problems
[02:01] <josh__> kill -9 adept?
[02:02] <rr72> i get ICAuthority errors
[02:02] <osiris> for java in firefox, do i have to do it by hand in kubuntu, or is there a package
[02:02] <_greg> yeah you may have a point
[02:02] <rr72> and KUser is broked
[02:02] <cpk2> josh__: you will probably have to do it as sudo
[02:02] <rr72> so i need to do in text since kuser doesnt start anything
[02:03] <josh__> so sudo kill -9 adept?
[02:03] <rr72> w/o ?
[02:04] <rr72> _greg~ there is no printer group on my system anyways
[02:04] <rr72> dinner bbiab
[02:05] <josh__> can i see the process???
[02:05] <shrewdy> does anyone know how to downgrade GCC (4.0 >> 3.x)
[02:05] <shrewdy> ??
[02:05] <josh__> where is the process manager in this
[02:06] <Gravygoat> josh__ if you want to kill a process by name, you can do it like this: "sudo killall adept"
[02:06] <scabootssca> how do i use the chroot command i want to change my root from the current harddrive to a mounted one]
[02:06] <Agios> you can uninstall gcc then install whatever version you want so long as it's in the sources
[02:06] <cpk2> josh__: "ps aux" is like process manager so is "top"
[02:07] <Agios> killing adept will leave the lock files in place
[02:07] <cpk2> i think ksysguard is a gui process manager
[02:07] <Agios> chroot /some/directory
[02:08] <Hikaru79> What is the "correct" way to install libxine-extracodecs? Is it in some repo (I've already checked multiverse), or should I grab the .deb manually from http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libxine-extracodecs and install it from there?
[02:08] <cpk2> Hikaru79: the plf repo might have it?
[02:08] <Agios> gcc 3.3 is the lowest version I see in my sources
[02:08] <abattoir> !info libxine-extracodecs
[02:08] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[02:09] <abattoir> Hikaru79: it is in multiverse, see if you have enabled it properly
[02:09] <josh__> OMFG!!!!!
[02:09] <josh__> i can't see anything this is so retarded
[02:09] <cpk2> josh__: ??
[02:10] <crimsun> if he can't see it, asking won't help ;-)
[02:10] <josh__> i can't see that adept is running
[02:10] <josh__> i don't know why it would be running at startup
[02:10] <josh__> what would use adept at startup?
[02:10] <cpk2> josh__: did you do ps aux and look for it in the list?
[02:10] <crimsun> the notifier in the notification area in the bottom right, why?
[02:10] <josh__> yes
[02:10] <abattoir> josh__: You probably have 'session mangamement' on, so you must have not closed it the last time you logged out, and hence it'd have been started up.
[02:11] <Hikaru79> abattoir: are you sure?
[02:11] <josh__> how do i kill session management
[02:11] <abattoir> Hikaru79: yes, see if you Updated the packages list too
[02:11] <Hikaru79> I know packages.ubuntu.com says it is, but I've enabled multiverse, and of course apt-get update'd, but nothing =/
[02:11] <abattoir> josh__: Kcontrol->KDE Components->Session mgmt.
[02:12] <abattoir> Hikaru79: make sure you have enabled it in the 'dapper' distribution and not 'dapper-backports'
[02:12] <josh__> sigh
[02:12] <josh__> no kde components in the kcontrol
[02:12] <Hikaru79> Ah, you are indeed correct, abattoir! Thank you very much =)
[02:12] <draik> Anyone here know how to rip a DVD?
[02:12] <abattoir> Hikaru79: enabling it in dapper-backports is not wrong, but make sure you have it in dapper too
[02:12] <Hikaru79> I can't believe I overlooked that =x
[02:12] <abattoir> Hikaru79:  :)
[02:13] <holoton1> I installed ubuntu 6.06 clean from a disc, and then used apt-get to get kubuntu-desktop
[02:13] <holoton1> on multiple machines
[02:13] <josh__> hmmmm
[02:13] <josh__> it says another packaging system is running
[02:13] <holoton1> for some reason, all of the browse file dialogue boxes are still gnome
[02:14] <holoton1> unless it's a KDE app, like digikam,
[02:14] <holoton1> is this normal?
[02:14] <timi> hey how do i get this to stop remembeir sessions
[02:14] <cpk2> holoton1: do you still want gnome?
[02:14] <holoton1> not really, no
[02:14] <abattoir> holoton1: yes, if you are using GTK programs, like firefox, its common to see those boxes
[02:14] <timi> i just want it to close all sessions when im done, or at least not reopen thme up
[02:14] <holoton1> firefox is gtk?
[02:14] <cpk2> holoton1: having gnome and kde together can cause some wierd things, might be better off purging gnome heh
[02:14] <abattoir> timi: Kcontrol->KDE Components->Session mgmt.
[02:15] <timi> k
[02:15] <josh__> ok. it asys that another packaging system is running and its prolly apt-get or agtitude
[02:15] <cpk2> josh__: apt-get is run from the terminal and i highly doubt it is still going
[02:16] <josh__> yeah
[02:16] <scabootssca> i need help installing lilo
[02:16] <scabootssca> abnyone
[02:16] <cpk2> dunno if aptitude has a gui i only use it for search but you can check using ps aux
[02:16] <josh__> grrrr linux
[02:16] <scabootssca> please
[02:17] <josh__> i use grub so i dont know what the hell lilo is
[02:17] <scabootssca> i cant get grub to work i got lilo to before though
[02:18] <cpk2> josh__: close the xmanager and then see if you can use apt-get
[02:18] <josh__> xmanager?
[02:18] <cpk2> xserver
[02:18] <josh__> i have nothing like that running
[02:19] <josh__> oooh
[02:19] <josh__> i've actually never used apt get
[02:19] <josh__> i use adept...
[02:19] <cpk2> josh__: you know how to shut down xserver?
[02:20] <josh__> telinit 3 or something
[02:20] <josh__> or just log out and then login to console mode
[02:20] <cpk2> josh__: its pretty easy "sudo apt-get update" "sudo apt-get upgrade" "sudo apt-get install packageiwanthere"
[02:20] <cpk2> josh__: just do sudo invoke-rc.d kdm stop
[02:20] <crimsun> josh__: runlevels 2-5 are identical by default
[02:21] <Terrance> which of the following are not default in kubutnu or easy and quick to install:  dvd, mp3, flash, java
[02:22] <abattoir> all of them :P
[02:22] <cpk2> pretty sure those are all quick and easy
[02:22] <abattoir> !easyubuntu
[02:22] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:22] <abattoir> Terrance: ^^^^
[02:22] <dan> ok so i uninstalled amarok because i was having problems, but now i cant install it
[02:22] <cpk2> amarok is a movieplayer?
[02:22] <dan> audio
[02:23] <cpk2> could always try mplayer for movies and xmms for audio
[02:23] <abattoir> cpk2: nah, its the best music player out there... :)
[02:23] <abattoir> dan: what is the problem?
[02:23] <dan> anyways synaptic says that some of the libs are uninstallable
[02:23] <cpk2> hmm xmms sure seems nice to me...
[02:23] <rr72> who still uses parellel to hook up a printer?
[02:23] <cpk2> !amarok
[02:23] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[02:24] <abattoir> dan: can you try 'sudo apt-get install amarok' in the command line and pastebin the output?
[02:24] <OOD> cpk2: if you haven'tr tried amarok yet, then you're missing an important part of linux :P
[02:24] <abattoir> !pastebin
[02:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:24] <root> ok
[02:24] <root> i'm in root now
[02:24] <dan> ubotu: have you tried installing that package
[02:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about have you tried installing that package - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:24] <abattoir> dan: ubotu is a computer program :)
[02:24] <root> i'm in root and now i can use adept
[02:24] <dan> lol
[02:24] <OOD> lol
[02:24] <dan> oops
[02:24] <root> this is josh__ btw
[02:24] <abattoir> root: change your nick, so people know who you are
[02:24] <Terrance> wot about automatix, that easier, better than easyubuntu?
[02:24] <abattoir> aah ok
[02:24] <dan> ok hold on
[02:25] <cpk2> josh__: why did you log into kde as root?
[02:25] <josh__> cuz i updated adept and then i had to be in root
[02:25] <abattoir> Terrance: i've used neither, but people say easyubuntu is more user-friendly, especially for new users...
[02:25] <josh__> then i typed in startx
[02:25] <cpk2> i said shutdown xserver and then try using apt-get
[02:25] <josh__> cuz i was in console
[02:25] <rr72> who uses a parallel printer still?
[02:25] <patrick_> abattoir: french?
[02:25] <abattoir> patrick_: the nick, yes, me, no :)
[02:25] <cpk2> josh__: you really shouldnt be logged in doing normal things as root
[02:25] <josh__> ya i need to do sudo when i use apt-get
[02:26] <josh__> yeh
[02:26] <cpk2> yeah you dont need to log in as root, just do sudo and supply the password
[02:26] <josh__> how about installing packages though
[02:26] <driz_> !wine
[02:26] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:26] <cpk2> lets say you want to install a package named coolprogram
[02:26] <cpk2> you do sudo apt-get install coolprogram
[02:27] <dan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18896
[02:27] <rr72> who has a parellle printer?
[02:27] <cpk2> josh__: you should probably log out of root btw
[02:27] <josh__> yah
[02:27] <josh__> i'll do that now
[02:27] <cpk2> root is for when you do things that need it not for everyday things
[02:27] <dan> here you go abattoir
[02:28] <abattoir> dan: try 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[02:28] <abattoir> dan: see if any packages are being removed...
[02:28] <cpk2> is it just me or does josh_ seem like he is a little afraid of the command line?
[02:28] <rr72> who still uses parellel printer? i need some help
[02:29] <dan> same thing
[02:29] <abattoir> dan: 'sudo apt-get install ruby' ?
[02:29] <abattoir> dan: could you try that?
[02:29] <dan> lol
[02:30] <dan> sure but i'm sure thats not gonna work
[02:30] <abattoir> dan: well, i want to find why ruby is broken...
[02:30] <josh__> i'm back
[02:30] <abattoir> dan: but afaik, ruby is not a mandatory dep for amarok
[02:30] <timi> how do you uninstall a non kde program you installed
[02:30] <timi> i went to add remove programs but it wasnt there
[02:30] <dan> ruby is not available
[02:30] <abattoir> dan: also which version of amarok are you trying to install?
[02:30] <abattoir> !info ruby
[02:30] <ubotu> ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[02:30] <dan> the newest one
[02:30] <patrick_> timi - apt-get remove?
[02:31] <josh__> i think i know what happened
[02:31] <_greg> rr72, i was away for awhile. have you tried cancel?
[02:31] <abattoir> dan: 1.4.1, you added the kubuntu.org repository?
[02:31] <josh__> i was trying to install the java package
[02:31] <dan> yes
[02:31] <rr72> cancel for what?
[02:31] <josh__> and it stopped in the middle of the installation
[02:31] <abattoir> dan: did you do a 'sudo apt-get update'?
[02:31] <josh__> so i had to close adept
[02:31] <rr72> _greg~ i don't even know what we were talking abuot
[02:31] <dan> no
[02:31] <dan> i'll try that
[02:32] <cpk2> josh__: have you finished the java installation yet then?
[02:32] <josh__> no
[02:32] <josh__> i coudn't
[02:32] <josh__> it just stops.
[02:32] <cpk2> dont use adept to do it
[02:32] <_greg> the lp man page gives the command "cancel" to cancel any print jobs.
[02:32] <cpk2> open a terminal and do sudo apt-get -f install
[02:32] <dan> no updates
[02:32] <abattoir> dan: dapper right?
[02:32] <dan> yes
[02:33] <dan> i know
[02:33] <dan> its weird huh
[02:33] <rr72> _greg~ i can cancel them all from my windows machine
[02:33] <cpk2> dan: what do you mean no updates? update doesnt actually install anything
[02:33] <abattoir> dan: indeed :), ruby is main, wonder why you get that erro
[02:33] <abattoir> *error
[02:33] <rr72> _greg~ says i don't have access to the port the printer is connected too
[02:34] <dan> well i went into synaptic to verify any updates
[02:34] <dan> and also adept
[02:34] <dan> and nothing
[02:34] <josh__> ok
[02:34] <josh__> i think its done
[02:34] <dan> let me try installing ruby from synaptic
[02:34] <cpk2> josh__: did it let you finish the java installation when you did that?
[02:34] <josh__> Unpacking replacement sun-java5-jre ...
[02:34] <josh__> Setting up sun-java5-jre (1.5.0-06-1) ...
[02:34] <josh__> Setting up ia32-sun-java5-bin (1.5.0-06-1) ...
[02:34] <abattoir> dan: i'd like to see the output of 'sudo apt-get install ruby libgpod0 libifp4' and see your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[02:34] <cpk2> !java
[02:34] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:34] <josh__> is it done now?
[02:35] <abattoir> dan: you could put both on pastebin, separately
[02:35] <cpk2> josh__: what does java --version tell you?
[02:35] <josh__> could not create
[02:35] <josh__> ya it f'd itself again
[02:35] <dan> ok hold on
[02:35] <josh__> omg
[02:35] <josh__> wait a sec
[02:35] <josh__> did i tell you that i'm on the 64 bit version of kubuntu?
[02:36] <cpk2> josh__: no
[02:36] <josh__> omg i'm so sorry lol
[02:36] <abattoir> dan: you also have universe and mulitverse enabled right?
[02:36] <josh__> is that the problem?
[02:36] <rr72> josh__~ that mightve helped a while ago
[02:36] <dan> no
[02:36] <cpk2> josh__: read that link for java
[02:36] <josh__> sry
[02:36] <dan> i thought it wasnt safe
[02:36] <cpk2> josh__: that link will explain how to install java for 64bit
[02:36] <abattoir> dan: enabling universe/multiverse is not safe?
[02:37] <rr72> GIGANTOR~ do u have a perallel printer?
[02:37] <josh__> ah here we go
[02:37] <josh__> i'm downloading it
[02:37] <GIGANTOR> lol
[02:37] <dan> i thought some of the programs arent safe to install from there
[02:37] <GIGANTOR> a parallel printer? umm
[02:37] <GIGANTOR> i have no printer at all  ;P
[02:37] <rr72> oh
[02:37] <abattoir> dan: nope, nothing like that.... unofficially atleast
[02:37] <dan> should i try that?
[02:37] <timi> how come the defaults streams in amarok have no sund
[02:37] <abattoir> dan: yes, please do
[02:37] <dan> hey
[02:37] <abattoir> dan: because libifp4 is in universe
[02:37] <dan> i had the same problem as timi
[02:38] <GIGANTOR> my question is easier than these peoples
[02:38] <dan> thats why i uninstalled in the first place
[02:38] <GIGANTOR> ;D
[02:38] <abattoir> dan: which one is that? i've seen timi here for 2 days w/ various probs :P
[02:38] <dan> lol
[02:38] <timi> lol
[02:38] <dan> no sound in amarok
[02:38] <timi> o
[02:38] <cpk2> abattoir: i think thats the problem he had, various troubles with linux
[02:38] <cpk2> sounds like a problem to me hehe
[02:39] <abattoir> cpk2: well, lot of people are not used to it, so its perfectly normal :)
[02:39] <GIGANTOR> *coughbetweencomputerandchaircough*
[02:39] <abattoir> *a lot
[02:39] <Terrance> ok, if easyubuntu is easy, a new kubuntu user gained here
[02:39] <Terrance> thanks for the help
[02:39] <abattoir> Terrance: :)
[02:39] <Terrance> i just hope the overly blue kubuntu icons go....yuk, no colour, just bluuuue
[02:39] <dan> ok well i'll add universe and multiverse and try it that way
[02:39] <abattoir> dan: if enabling multiversse and universe dont work, paste the stuff i asked you to, and ping me w/ the links
[02:40] <rr72> i need help getting my printer to work, i can't access the port its on
[02:40] <GIGANTOR> Terrance, well in Ubuntu you have brown, so take your pick  ;P
[02:40] <josh__> OMFG
[02:40] <abattoir> GIGANTOR: isnt it orange now?
[02:40] <Terrance> there shudnt be a colour lol
[02:40] <GIGANTOR> =x  may be
[02:40] <cpk2> Terrance: i think there are themes you can download from the repos
[02:40] <GIGANTOR> i don't swing that way
[02:40] <GIGANTOR> ;P
[02:40] <dan> ok
[02:40] <Terrance> the icons on the desktop shud be as per other icons in the OS, various easy to see, intuitive icons with colour, helping to signify them
[02:40] <abattoir> Terrance: this is KDE, change whatever you want, however you want :)
[02:40] <Terrance> i know
[02:41] <abattoir> Terrance: you get icons on the desktop? by default?
[02:41] <cpk2> josh__: you seem to get worked up pretty easily =P
[02:41] <Terrance> but i think kubuntu and ubuntu shud steer off coloured icons like that by default.  its much less intuitive and clear.
[02:41] <josh__> i know
[02:41] <GIGANTOR> Ubuntu is still in the 70's, live in the NOW my man
[02:41] <josh__> i have messed up linux 4 times
[02:41] <cpk2> abattoir: my hdd shows up on the desktop by default
[02:41] <timi> so any ideas as to why i dont have sound coming thought an amarok stream
[02:42] <timi> its one of those streams that are there by defualt
[02:42] <josh__> this is the 4th version of linux i've tried
[02:42] <GIGANTOR> timi- does any sound work?
[02:42] <abattoir> cpk2: hmmm... i remember getting an icon-less desktop when i installed it recently somewhere...
[02:42] <timi> gigator yes
[02:42] <cpk2> abattoir: maybe its because my hdd is external?
[02:42] <abattoir> cpk2: i guess it is unmounted and you have that option enabled :)
[02:42] <abattoir> cpk2: yes, :)
[02:42] <cpk2> a 400 gig hdd is a bit expensive if you get it for a laptop
[02:42] <patrick_> Anyone to assist me with setting up a VNCserver? I get a grey screen...
[02:43] <cpk2> much better to get an internal one and buy a 20 dollar case
[02:43] <abattoir> cpk2: i actually mean icons like Home, Documents, Network etc.... not device icons... which are actually handy
[02:43] <Terrance> whos cud change/modify the blue/brown coloring of desktop icons to be less colour specific, more intuitive?
[02:43] <timi> gigantor yes
[02:43] <Agios> When I installed I had no icons on the desktop.
[02:43] <GIGANTOR> timi- does anything else in amarok (mp3) play correctly?
[02:43] <Terrance> or who/where shud i feedback this
[02:43] <timi> i dont  think ive downloaded the mp3 packages
[02:43] <cpk2> abattoir: ah, nope none of those, just my hdd =)
[02:43] <josh__> ok there is no release of java
[02:43] <abattoir> Terrance: try another icon theme from kde-look.org
[02:43] <josh__> in 64 bit
[02:43] <Terrance> yer i will
[02:43] <GIGANTOR> doh..  try and play something else first in amarok before tackling the stream bit
[02:43] <cpk2> josh__: you go to the sun website?
[02:44] <abattoir> Terrance: or i'd suggest crystal clear, which is also in the repos
[02:44] <rr72> i need help with my parrelela printer
[02:44] <GIGANTOR> chances are amarok needs to talk to your soundcard correctly, which is slightly different
[02:44] <abattoir> josh__: iirc, there is
[02:44] <Agios> probably mixer settings
[02:44] <patrick_> Ok, about the icons on the desktop : System : Desktop : @comportement@ * french, i know... Then, unselect @show icon on desktop.
[02:44] <abattoir> josh__: there is not firefox/mozilla plugin though
[02:44] <GIGANTOR> timi-  well, not different, but...  helps to know to troubleshoot the prob
[02:44] <Terrance> but im on about a more suitable generic desktop icons as default, like freespire.
[02:44] <cpk2> josh__: you obviously didnt read that link closely, let me copy paste the part you missed  It is also available for i386 and AMD64, but use on such installations is not discussed here.
[02:45] <timi> ok how does it talk to my soundcard...
[02:45] <josh__> * There is no browser plugin for AMD64. You will need to install a 32bit version of Firefox. See below.
[02:45] <cpk2> josh__: looks like you need to go get the source from sun
[02:45] <josh__> k
[02:45] <cpk2> josh__: yes, but you are still trying to install sun java
[02:45] <josh__> i think i'm just gona install 32 bit linux lmao
[02:45] <GIGANTOR> timi- do you know what sound driver you use?
[02:45] <Terrance> and can the date/time at least move back to the quick and easy bottom right, as expected/easier!?
[02:45] <josh__> well i think thats what messed up adept
[02:45] <josh__> and i hate commands
[02:45] <josh__> so i think i'll just get that
[02:46] <timi> alsa
[02:46] <GIGANTOR> timi-  brb, lemme look at amarok for a sec
[02:46] <josh__> ok peace out everyoen
[02:46] <timi> peace
[02:46] <cpk2> josh__: what happened when you tried getting sun java with adept is that it required you to consent to a license and adept didnt know what to do
[02:46] <dan> ok it worked
[02:46] <josh__> it went to install then stopped and i had to exit adept
[02:46] <rr72> who uses a parallel printer still?
[02:46] <dan> thanx abattoir
[02:46] <Terrance> cheers and nite all.  date and time bottom right, and no blue icons....please....nite
[02:46] <josh__> and u click details
[02:47] <dan> but now i have the same problem again
[02:47] <josh__> then u see the thing and u hit enter and it goes through a thinger
[02:47] <GIGANTOR> timi- go to amarok, right click and goto configure amarok
[02:47] <cpk2> josh__: thats because you had to accept the license, running dpkg-reconfigure sun-java5-bin should fix it
[02:47] <GIGANTOR> timi-  then go to engine
[02:47] <cpk2> i think
[02:47] <GIGANTOR> timi- and see what your output plugin is set for
[02:47] <dan> mine is alsa
[02:48] <dan> i have the same problem gigantor
[02:48] <timi> gigantor it says xine
[02:48] <GIGANTOR> dan-  in system settings under sound does it show that you're using the ALSA driver?
[02:48] <azaghal> Ok, I know that this is probably extremly boring questio to ask, but I need someone to help me set up the bloody winmodem (SmartLink one). A step by step would be appriciated. The most imporatnt part to me is what additional packages I need for this thing. I believe the rest is well enough covered in a wiki page. The install is a fresh Kubuntu 6.06 (PURE, no additional packages:). Anyone up...
[02:48] <azaghal> ...to the task?
[02:48] <GIGANTOR> timi-  try it with alsa and restart the program
[02:48] <josh__> dpkg-reconfigure: cannot connect to X server
[02:48] <josh__> debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Kde
[02:48] <josh__> debconf: (DISPLAY problem?)
[02:48] <josh__> debconf: falling back to frontend: Dialog
[02:48] <josh__> OH MY GOD!
[02:49] <leigh> why the hell dont i see a kdevelop package in kubuntu... ?
[02:49] <josh__> peanut linux looks good i should try that
[02:49] <dan> yes
[02:49] <GIGANTOR> dan, do you get any sound at all out of anything
[02:49] <timi> hrmm no sound still
[02:49] <josh__> alright later guys
[02:49] <dan> i've tried all the different drivers
[02:50] <dan> no
[02:50] <dan> lol
[02:50] <cpk2> josh__: you do this    sudo apt-get install libqt-perl   sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf   ?
[02:50] <Agios> josh, did you do that from $ sudo or #?
[02:50] <GIGANTOR> dan- do you use a digital output on your soundcard?
[02:50] <dan> i've tried several different configs
[02:50] <dan> yes
[02:50] <GIGANTOR> timi-  arrrgh, that sucks..
[02:50] <GIGANTOR> timi-  i'm out of ideas then, for i am a wee little nooblet myself
[02:51] <dan> i'm having the same problem it just sucks
[02:51] <GIGANTOR> dan-  if you're not getting any sound thats different
[02:51] <dan> does yours work gigantor?
[02:51] <dan> ok hold on
[02:51] <GIGANTOR> dan-  do you know how to open kmix?
[02:51] <rr72> anyone stll using parallel printers?
[02:51] <abattoir> dan: amarok installed?
[02:51] <dan> lol
[02:51] <GIGANTOR> lol..
[02:51] <dan> oh yeah thank you very much
[02:51] <GIGANTOR> just a question ;P
[02:51] <cpk2> rr72: i think parallel printers were phased out a long time ago
[02:51] <dan> but now my streams dont work
[02:51] <Agios> leigh: I have kdevelop3 in my sources.
[02:51] <GIGANTOR> well goto the switches tab
[02:51] <GIGANTOR> and enable digital output
[02:51] <rr72> cpk2~ then why does linux still support them?
[02:52] <abattoir> dan: only streams... or nothing works?
[02:52] <azaghal> Ok, I know that this is probably extremly boring questio to ask, but I need someone to help me set up the bloody winmodem (SmartLink one). A step by step would be appriciated. The most imporatnt part to me is what additional packages I need for this thing. I believe the rest is well enough covered in a wiki page. The install is a fresh Kubuntu 6.06 (PURE, no additional packages:). Anyone up...
[02:52] <azaghal> ...to the task?
[02:52] <abattoir> dan: also if they are mp3 streams, do normal local mp3s work?
[02:52] <GIGANTOR> dan-  just turn on an mp3 and mash buttons in the switches part, you're bound to find something that works.  (MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT ON MUUUUTE)
[02:52] <GIGANTOR> ;)
[02:52] <cpk2> rr72: i meant production wise, not very many people probably manufacture them any more, therefor almost no one will have one
[02:52] <rr72> make sure ur speakers are plugged in too
[02:52] <dan> well as funny as it sounds i dont have any mp3's
[02:52] <GIGANTOR> ..
[02:52] <dan> well none that i know of
[02:52] <GIGANTOR> sad bastard.
[02:52] <rr72> oi
[02:53] <dan> let me put a cd in hold on
[02:53] <GIGANTOR> dan- download frostwire  ;)
[02:53] <dan> my sound works fine with other programs
[02:53] <cpk2> make sure the sound isnt being tied up by something else
[02:53] <rr72> but a cd is different
[02:53] <cpk2> can you ahve sound going from 2 programs at once?
[02:53] <GIGANTOR> dan-  oh, i thought you said none of it worked
[02:53] <dan> even system sounds
[02:53] <dan> lol
[02:53] <dan> oh sorry
[02:53] <rr72> GIGANTOR~ can u tell me what this means?
[02:53] <GIGANTOR> dan-  try xmms
[02:53] <GIGANTOR> ;)
[02:54] <GIGANTOR> rr72-  i am a noob man, don't put too much hope in me
[02:54] <GIGANTOR> lol
[02:54] <GIGANTOR> just helping with things i've had to deal with
[02:54] <rr72> "Unable to open parallel port device file "/dev/lp0": Permission denied"
[02:54] <dan> xmms?
[02:54] <timi> meh dvd sound worked
[02:54] <GIGANTOR> rr72-  what is this device?
[02:54] <dan> is that a program
[02:54] <timi> i just played starwars
[02:55] <GIGANTOR> timi-  ;P
[02:55] <GIGANTOR> timi-  i say go get some codecs for that mammy
[02:55] <abattoir> timi: amarok plays nothing? or is it only mp3s ?
[02:55] <dan> nevermind
[02:55] <dan> i have the same problem as timi
[02:55] <GIGANTOR> dan-  yes
[02:55] <dan> just doesnt play streams
[02:55] <leigh> Agios: figured it out ;)
[02:55] <GIGANTOR> dan-  it's kinda like winamp a little
[02:55] <abattoir> dan: which ones?????
[02:55] <dan> i just looked it up
[02:56] <cpk2> GIGANTOR: i am pretty sure xmms is a winamp clone
[02:56] <cpk2> since it looks and behaves like winamp
[02:56] <GIGANTOR> hell, let me see if *I* can play streams  ;P
[02:56] <GIGANTOR> never have tried
[02:56] <GIGANTOR> timi-  you there?
[02:56] <dan> all of them
[02:57] <dan> some i dont have the right plugin for and some that do come up i cant hear
[02:57] <GIGANTOR> timi-  you said the output said XINE, right?  were you talking about the picture above the output plugin button?  cos that don't mean jack
[02:57] <timi> yes
[02:57] <timi> yeah the picture said xine
[02:57] <timi> then under it said autodetect
[02:57] <GIGANTOR> timi-  click in that box and put on ALSA
[02:57] <timi> i changed that to alsa
[02:58] <GIGANTOR> oh ok
[02:58] <timi> do i need to restart x maybe
[02:58] <GIGANTOR> you shouldn't have to, but i dunno
[02:59] <azaghal> Ok, I know that this is probably extremly boring questio to ask, but I need someone to help me set up the bloody winmodem (SmartLink one). A step by step would be appriciated. The most imporatnt part to me is what additional packages I need for this thing. I believe the rest is well enough covered in a wiki page. The install is a fresh Kubuntu 6.06 (PURE, no additional packages:). Anyone up...
[02:59] <azaghal> ...to the task? Please? Pretty please? :)
[02:59] <dan> well gigantor i dont know anymore
[02:59] <dan> did yours work?
[02:59] <GIGANTOR> i'm looking for the streaming bit
[03:00] <rr72> shoutcast.com
[03:00] <rr72> who can help me with "Unable to open parallel port device file "/dev/lp0": Permission denied" ?
[03:01] <thompa> !flash
[03:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:01] <thompa> whats the flash program i need?
[03:02] <GIGANTOR> flash-nonfree
[03:02] <GIGANTOR> search in adept
[03:02] <thompa> thanks
[03:03] <GIGANTOR> timi, dan...   dunno about the streaming bit
[03:03] <GIGANTOR> lol, i don't even see it
[03:03] <GIGANTOR> (doesn't use amarok)
[03:03] <thompa> found it, kid needs miniclip.com
[03:03] <dan> ok i accidently clicked on another driver, now i cant even open amarok
[03:03] <cpk2> you guys might want to try xmms
[03:03] <GIGANTOR> thompa=  word of advice
[03:03] <thompa> its hard to find
[03:03] <GIGANTOR> run flash in firefox in Wine
[03:03] <GIGANTOR> otherwise your a/v will not always sync up properly
[03:03] <thompa> always when i enable all the repos i get tons of errors, too lazy to sort out
[03:04] <Agios> apt-cache search flash
[03:04] <dan> ok i got it
[03:04] <dan> nevermind
[03:04] <GIGANTOR> lol, what was it?
[03:04] <thompa> but its the same on every install. if i enable all the repos so i can get crap like flash, i get constant errors of multiple repos
[03:04] <cpk2> thompa: probably bad entries in sources.list
[03:05] <cpk2> thompa: pastebin your sources.list
[03:05] <thompa> it still upgrades, i just dont feel like going through and finding which are the bad duplicates or whatever
[03:05] <GIGANTOR> dan-  help out timi  ;P
[03:05] <thompa> sure
[03:05] <dan> no i didnt get the sound to work man
[03:05] <GIGANTOR> ;\
[03:05] <dan> i have no idea whats going on
[03:05] <thompa> basically i enabled everything from new install
[03:06] <dan> i've tried several different combinations of drivers and sound outputs and still nothing
[03:06] <GIGANTOR> dan, check pm
[03:07] <thompa> it still says flash 6 required in firefox
[03:07] <dan> hey
[03:07] <GIGANTOR> dan-  nvm, found it
[03:07] <dan> on the left hand side where it says playlist
[03:07] <dan> oh
[03:07] <dan> lol
[03:07] <GIGANTOR> had the other view-setup of amarok going
[03:07] <GIGANTOR> didn't have that  ;P
[03:08] <dan> oh
[03:08] <dan> ic
[03:08] <dan> hey is wine a good program
[03:08] <dan> i'm installing it now
[03:08] <dan> never used it before
[03:08] <rr72> how do i add a user to a group from cmd line/shell?
[03:08] <thompa> i installed flash free, but firefox says i need flash for the damn kids site
[03:08] <GIGANTOR> it's excellent if you need to install and run Windows apps
[03:09] <dan> cool
[03:09] <Agios> thompa: make sure you have plf sources enabled then do: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree, restart firefox, done.
[03:09] <dan> what about games?
[03:09] <cpk2> thompa: you got the wrong flash
[03:09] <thompa> again
[03:09] <GIGANTOR> some games run through it fine, some don't
[03:09] <cpk2> you dont need plf Agios
[03:09] <dan> i got flash from adobe.com
[03:09] <dan> it works great
[03:09] <GIGANTOR> theres a list on winedb.com someplace that shows you what works and what doesn't game wise
[03:09] <thompa> whats the name of the flash package then
[03:09] <dan> oh cool
[03:10] <thompa> ill try adobe
[03:10] <Agios> pehaps not then.
[03:10] <GIGANTOR> thompa-  i think it suggests the proper one for you
[03:10] <GIGANTOR> although the adept one should work fine
[03:10] <GIGANTOR> just disable some of those repos if you get errors
[03:10] <thompa> http://www.miniclip.com/games/club-penguin/en/
[03:11] <thompa> this one aint worken
[03:11] <thompa> it says it needs flash 6, it worked before on an earlier install
[03:11] <GIGANTOR> dan-  what stream are you trying?
[03:11] <Agios> that site works fine with flashplugin-nonfree
[03:12] <dan> any of them
[03:12] <dan> house trance
[03:12] <dan> any of the ones i've tried
[03:12] <dan> i'm slowly giving up on the problem to be honest
[03:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> What problem?
[03:12] <rr72> shit i didnt somin and i can't sudo any more
[03:12] <dan> when using amarok, i cant hear any sound
[03:13] <rr72> *did
[03:13] <GIGANTOR> ewww, got one to work and it SUCKS the big one
[03:13] <dan> which one>?
[03:13] <rocketman768> dan: do you hear sound otherwise?
[03:13] <GIGANTOR> digitally imported - progressive   about 5th one down
[03:13] <rr72> crap
[03:13] <timi> so exactly wht is amaroK good for again
[03:13] <rr72> somone please save me
[03:13] <GIGANTOR> timi-  lol
[03:13] <rr72> i can't sudo anymore
[03:14] <OOD> timi: it's good for being the best audio player of course!
[03:14] <Agios> what message do you get?
[03:14] <GIGANTOR> dan-  ok, it's getting better now
[03:14] <GIGANTOR> ;P
[03:14] <timi> ok i put a cd in the drive
[03:14] <rr72> USER is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[03:14] <timi> it doesnt open with amarok
[03:14] <dan> lol
[03:14] <timi> it opens wiht Kaffeine
[03:14] <dan> yes i hear sound with anything else
[03:15] <GIGANTOR> ok, it sucks again
[03:15] <Agios> rr72, type exit
[03:15] <rr72> exit
[03:15] <rr72> what did that do?
[03:15] <GIGANTOR> ooooh, ambiet stuff
[03:15] <Agios> nothing in an irc channel, try it in your terminal window
[03:15] <rocketman768> dan: then there is a setting that deals with how sound is output in amarok...i don't remember exactly where it is. Play with it. My guess is that you will have to select ALSA.
[03:15] <cpk2> Agios: lol
[03:15] <timi> hey ood i want to rip a cd then put the files in amarok
[03:15] <rr72> why i will just lose the ssh connection
[03:15] <dan> i've tried it all already man
[03:15] <timi> how would i go about doing that
[03:15] <dan> lol
[03:16] <rr72> Agios~ now what?
[03:16] <rr72> my ssh window just closed
[03:16] <rocketman768> dan: screw amarok. use xmms. it always works for me
[03:16] <GIGANTOR> let me see if i put it on another sound output if it stops playing
[03:16] <abattoir> timi: try audiocd:/ in konqueror
[03:16] <Agios> rr72, you were ssh'd to another system and using sudo?
[03:16] <GIGANTOR> no sir, it does
[03:16] <GIGANTOR> doesn't*
[03:17] <rr72> yeah
[03:17] <rr72> i always do it
[03:17] <thompa> still cant get flash
[03:17] <dan> does it have streams?
[03:17] <dan> xmms
[03:17] <OOD> timi: you can use KAudioCreator
[03:17] <Agios> ok, ssh back in and try again
[03:17] <timi> ok then i organize the files in amarok?
[03:17] <thompa> !flash
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[03:18] <dan> alright i'm switching to xmms
[03:18] <rr72> i keep getting mail saying that i am trying to sudo and i can't
[03:18] <rr72> from the system
[03:18] <OOD> timi: amarok automatically organized all your files, you just provide the folder with all your music
[03:18] <timi> no encoder has been selected  it says
[03:18] <rr72> Agios~ still nothing, i think i deleted myself accedently by typing usermod
[03:18] <timi> when i open up kaudio creater
[03:18] <timi> i have a feeling i need to apt get something
[03:19] <OOD> timi: just go to setting and select an encoder
[03:19] <Agios> rr72: you can hurt yourself with usermod
[03:19] <thompa> i got flash plugin non free installed,
[03:19] <rr72> i need to undo what i just did
[03:19] <Agios> sounds like you are going to be booting rescue mode to fix that
[03:19] <timi> ok
[03:20] <timi> could i just open it in konqi like someone said and pull out the mp3 or the ogg vorbis
[03:20] <rr72> how do i fix it?
[03:20] <rr72> i know how to boot and all that just what do i need to cahnge?
[03:20] <Agios> rr72: what usermod command did you enter to break it?
[03:20] <OOD> timi: it might be possible, but i haven't tried
[03:20] <mattttttt> anyone know if photoshop works with linux?
[03:20] <timi> dont work
[03:20] <timi> ill go your way
[03:20] <rr72> sudo usermod -G lp USER
[03:20] <OOD> mattttttt: depends waht version
[03:20] <abattoir> mattttttt: 7 works very well under wine
[03:21] <GIGANTOR> i already hate amarok
[03:21] <GIGANTOR> hmm
[03:21] <OOD> and you need to cut down on the 't's :P
[03:21] <mattttttt> CS2
[03:21] <OOD> installing CS2 doesn't work
[03:21] <Agios> rr72: you probably dropped yourself out of a group needed for sudo
[03:21] <mattttttt> hmm bummer
[03:21] <rr72> how do i add myself
[03:22] <OOD> you can copy it over, but it'll complain about not being registered or something of that sort
[03:22] <GIGANTOR> oooh, gaming music.  Maybe this isn't so bad..
[03:22] <mattttttt> i realize it comes with apps, but i know PS pretty good
[03:22] <rr72> wait i can't since i can't sudo
[03:22] <timi> hey ood
[03:22] <OOD> and it'll shut down immediatly
[03:22] <rr72> nvm
[03:22] <thompa> got flash installed path was wrong
[03:22] <rr72> where do i manually by file edit what groups i am in ? /etc/?
[03:22] <GIGANTOR> dan-  you still around?
[03:22] <timi> i went to encode file but only wav was there
[03:22] <timi> and wav is huge
[03:22] <timi> where was vorbis or mp3
[03:22] <thompa> whats wrong with amarok
[03:22] <rr72> admin prolly
[03:23] <Agios> rr72: reboot into rescue mode then chroot and usermod -G adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin <youruser>
[03:23] <OOD> timi: only wav? i have mp3, ogg and flac to chose from besides wav
[03:23] <GIGANTOR> bom tss bom tss bom tss
[03:23] <rr72> ty
[03:23] <OOD> timi: you have extra xine codecs installed?
[03:23] <Agios> rr72: I suspect you dropped admin group
[03:23] <rr72> i did
[03:23] <timi> yea installed
[03:23] <Agios> along with everything else there
[03:24] <rr72> chroot whats that?
[03:24] <timi> OOD where do you got to choose encoder
[03:24] <rr72> do i need a cd or no?
[03:24] <Agios> actually, you won't need to chroot. forget that.
[03:24] <rr72> just select rescure from grub right?
[03:24] <thompa> hp desktop for windows really sucks, it took over 4 hours to install windows media center, total crap, pc rebooted 11 times during install i counted it
[03:24] <OOD> timi: start KAudioCreator->settings->encoder
[03:24] <Agios> nope, just reboot and at the boot prompt hit ESC and arrow down to the rescue mode or whatever it says
[03:25] <dan> sorry
[03:25] <dan> i'm back
[03:25] <GIGANTOR> dan- np
[03:25] <rr72> i need to select it from grub
[03:25] <thompa> im going to go to windows irc to complain
[03:25] <GIGANTOR> whatcha got
[03:25] <timi> hrm i dont have that under settings
[03:25] <thompa> see ya
[03:25] <dan> well i'm gonna go play with wine now
[03:25] <dan> cya
[03:25] <Agios> it's (recovery mode)
[03:25] <GIGANTOR> sorry i couldn't help man...  but i am a noob as well
[03:25] <timi> i have hide toolbar, and hide status bar OOD
[03:25] <GIGANTOR> a week into linux  =S
[03:25] <rr72> it was from grub
[03:25] <dan> its all good
[03:25] <Agios> rr72: yes, select recovery mode from grub.
[03:26] <dan> we'll figure it out sooner or later, just dont give up
[03:26] <rr72> GIGANTOR~ a week>
[03:26] <GIGANTOR> wish you could pm
[03:26] <rr72> ?
[03:26] <GIGANTOR> rr72, lol yeah
[03:26] <rr72> a couple years for me
[03:26] <dan> i'll register soon
[03:26] <OOD> timi: settings->Configure KAudioCreator-?Encoder
[03:26] <GIGANTOR> i'm a tinkerer though
[03:26] <GIGANTOR> ;)
[03:27] <Agios> I think I would use something other than amarok to get my sound working.
[03:27] <GIGANTOR> i've studied the GUI pretty well
[03:27] <GIGANTOR> hardware wise i know JACK
[03:27] <GIGANTOR> ;P
[03:27] <timi> ok
[03:27] <timi> i have oggenc lame, leave as wav and flac
[03:27] <timi> whihc one is mp3 the lame one lol
[03:28] <OOD> lame
[03:28] <rr72> Agios~ u forgot to tell me i needed ,s
[03:28] <GIGANTOR> man, no metal stations
[03:28] <rr72> ;)
[03:28] <GIGANTOR> bleah.
[03:28] <GIGANTOR> "rock" is extremely misleading as well
[03:29] <Agios>  ,s ?
[03:29] <rr72> commas
[03:29] <timi> hi set to lame
[03:29] <timi> then i selected all tracks and burned
[03:29] <Agios> oh, sorry
[03:29] <mattttttt> is there a keyboard shortcut to open a terminal?
[03:29] <rocketman768> "rock" is sort of like saying "soft drink" there are a million types
[03:29] <Agios> I just listed my groups and pasted them
[03:30] <GIGANTOR> modern U2 is not rock...
[03:30] <timi> first track it said removed wave file it said selected encoder not found
[03:30] <GIGANTOR> i don't care how ya slice it
[03:30] <GIGANTOR> POSSIBLY back in the joshua tree days, but even then..
[03:30] <rr72> u coulda done it in client
[03:31] <rr72> users uucp dialout audio video
[03:31] <rr72> ok how do i fic my printer?
[03:31] <rr72> *x
[03:31] <rocketman768> smash it like in the movie office space ;)
[03:31] <GIGANTOR> LOL
[03:32] <GIGANTOR> d*mn it feels good to be a gangsta..
[03:32] <rocketman768> hahaha
[03:32] <Agios> rr72: in the future when you want to add a group to a user use: gpasswd -a <user> <newgroup>
[03:32] <Agios> that won't delete the existing groups
[03:32] <rr72> ty
[03:32] <timi> how do i rip a freaking cd
[03:32] <rr72> someone told me wrong in #kde
[03:33] <GIGANTOR> timi-  what program are you using?
[03:33] <GIGANTOR> no f'n wonder, this "rock" station is from the UK...
[03:33] <GIGANTOR> blaaah
[03:33] <rr72> virgin?
[03:33] <GIGANTOR> yeah.
[03:33] <Agios> last time I ripped a CD I used grip. Been a good while though.
[03:33] <rr72> lol
[03:34] <timi> kaudiocreated
[03:34] <timi> kaudiocreater
[03:34] <GIGANTOR> i ripped one using something the other day, lemme look
[03:34] <timi> i start with putting a cd in the drive
[03:34] <GIGANTOR> it was extremely easy, whatever it was
[03:34] <mattttttt> is there a keyboard shortcut to open a terminal?
[03:35] <OOD> you can use katapult
[03:35] <OOD> alt+space
[03:35] <GIGANTOR> yeah, it was KAudioCreator
[03:35] <lnxkde> someone knows any nice racent movie, documental, video that talks about linux???
[03:35] <mattttttt> ahh thanks OOD
[03:35] <timi> alright gigantor then wht did you do
[03:36] <timi> it keeps telling me encoding is wrong or something
[03:36] <OOD> just type in the first few letters of a program and it'll start up, really handy
[03:36] <timi> it tickes me off
[03:36] <mattttttt> yeah that is convenient
[03:36] <mattttttt> cool
[03:37] <timi> i said ripe lame
[03:37] <timi> it said remove wav file selecoted encoder was not found command was --lame
[03:37] <timi> or something
[03:38] <timi> what does that mean
[03:38] <robotgeek> mattttttt: you can also set up a shortcut thru kcontrol
[03:39] <rr72> ok i need help getting my printer working
[03:39] <timi> where do ripped files go as defualt
[03:39] <rr72> it did work but now it doesnt
[03:40] <Agios> rr72: try setting it up again via System Settings
[03:40] <rr72> agin? it works jsut i don't ave access to port
[03:41] <rr72> "Unable to open parallel port device file "/dev/lp0": Permission denied"
[03:41] <rr72> from :631/printers i see that
[03:41] <rr72> cups
[03:41] <Agios> ls -ls /dev/lp0
[03:41] <Agios> paste the line here
[03:42] <rr72> root is owner and lp is group
[03:42] <Agios> same here
[03:42] <Dahgol> Can i run games with xgl?
[03:42] <timi> can anyone help me burn a cd
[03:43] <rr72> with what on it?
[03:43] <rr72> use k3b
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> timi: Seen K3b?
[03:43] <timi> what is that
[03:43] <Dahgol> !xgl
[03:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> timi: A CD burning application.
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> It should be installed by default.
[03:43] <timi> o sorry
[03:43] <timi> i meant rip a cd
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> I think it rips CDs as well
[03:43] <abattoir_> timi: didnt i tell you about audiocd:/ ?
[03:44] <rr72> Agios~ ?? any ideas?
[03:44] <abattoir_> you just have to copy the folder and paste it
[03:44] <Agios> rr72: I'm thinking :)
[03:44] <abattoir_> you can however tweak settings if you want to as well
[03:44] <rr72> thought i smelt somin
[03:44] <timi> audiocd what
[03:44] <timi> i tried to use kaudiocreater
[03:45] <timi> but it could never find the right encoder
[03:45] <rr72> i followed the winxp install link from the ubutt
[03:45] <timi> what is audiocd:/
[03:45] <Agios> rr72: type: groups cupsys
[03:46] <Agios> see what groups cups is in
[03:46] <abattoir_> !info kdemultimedia-kio-plugins
[03:46] <ubotu> kdemultimedia-kio-plugins: enables the browsing of audio CDs under Konqueror. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 173 kB, installed size 608 kB
[03:46] <rr72> cupsys : lpadmin lp dialout
[03:46] <abattoir_> timi: you have that installed? ^^^^
[03:46] <Agios> rr72: how are you trying to print?
[03:46] <timi> umm lett me try
[03:46] <abattoir_> timi: if you do, type audiocd:/ in konqueror
[03:46] <rr72> cups
[03:46] <timi> i did
[03:46] <rr72> test page
[03:46] <timi> and it opens
[03:46] <abattoir_> timi: you should see a folder for mp3 and ogg
[03:47] <timi> it shows me the audio cd tracks
[03:47] <timi> yes i c those
[03:47] <abattoir_> timi: just copy those folders to where you want them to be
[03:47] <rr72> where u selsect the drivers
[03:47] <timi> doesnt work
[03:47] <rr72> and a test page from my computer
[03:47] <Agios> rr72: well, cups has access to group lp and lp0 allows it
[03:47] <timi> it says stall
[03:47] <abattoir_> timi: you have lame installed?
[03:47] <abattoir_> !info lame
[03:47] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[03:48] <Agios> rr72: use system settings to delete and recreate the printer. See if that straightens things out.
[03:48] <rr72> kk
[03:48] <timi> alright i jsut got lame
[03:48] <abattoir> timi: now try again
[03:50] <abattoir_> timi: if you want to tweak the encoding settings go to Kcontrol->Sound and Multimedia->...
[03:50] <GIGANTOR> SEAL IS NOT ROCK
[03:50] <GIGANTOR> damned british
[03:50] <timi> well kaudiocreater is working now
[03:50] <timi> now if only i could find out where the files are going
[03:50] <GIGANTOR> timi-  i'm sure in the settings it tells you where the output folder is
[03:51] <GIGANTOR> ;P
[03:51] <timi> errm not really
[03:51] <timi> i just clicked rip
[03:51] <timi> and its ripping
[03:51] <GIGANTOR> yessah it does, i have used it  ;)
[03:51] <rr72> Agios~ should i restart cups to be sure?
[03:51] <timi> ok i c it i think
[03:51] <timi> maybe
[03:52] <rr72> Agios~ same error
[03:52] <Agios> rr72: I wouldn't think that would be needed.
[03:52] <Agios> try it then
[03:52] <rr72> in cups web screen it says that
[03:52] <rr72> same error
[03:53] <GIGANTOR> damn, why am i singing SEAL
[03:53] <rr72> i like the web based admin for cups
[03:53] <rr72> Administrative tasks have been disabled for security reasons. Please use Menu System > Administration > Printing.
[03:53] <rr72> :(
[03:53] <Agios> yes, you can't define printers through cups. You have to use the systme settings tools
[03:54] <rr72> it did work before i left for vacation
[03:54] <GIGANTOR> cos they will never, tear us apart
[03:54] <GIGANTOR> dun dun dun DUN
[03:54] <GIGANTOR> never, EVER, tear us apart*
[03:54] <rr72> just like kdm
[03:56] <Eeyore> http://mobilitytoday.com/news/006731/ubuntu_sony_ux - possible for kubuntu ?
[03:56] <Agios> rr72: From the Ubuntu forums searching on your error message:  Final solution: uninstall CUPS in Adept, reinstall and I can at last print in Ubuntu.
[03:57] <GIGANTOR> anyone want to help me with a small problem, i've done my duty in here  ;P
[03:57] <abattoir_> Eeyore: yes, why not?
[03:57] <Eeyore> just wondered
[03:57] <abattoir_> GIGANTOR: what's the problem?
[03:57] <rr72> adept? whats that?
[03:57] <GIGANTOR> abattoir-  i'm trying to install yahoo messenger  =S
[03:57] <timi> linux is so hard to use
[03:57] <GIGANTOR> and uh...
[03:57] <intelikey> !info adept
[03:57] <ubotu> adept: package manager for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 3752 kB, installed size 10988 kB
[03:57] <timi> sometimes i go through microsoft withdrawals
[03:57] <rr72> oh i just use apt-get
[03:58] <timi> i like the way amarok just finds everything for you though thats sweet
[03:58] <abattoir_> GIGANTOR: the old yahoo messenger for unix?
[03:58] <GIGANTOR> it says it needs libssl 0.9.6, right...   well...   adept says i have 0.9.7,  and no choice for 0.9.6
[03:58] <abattoir_> GIGANTOR: why not try kopete?
[03:58] <GIGANTOR> yeah
[03:58] <GIGANTOR> because i want the damned chat..  lol.  There, i said it...
[03:58] <abattoir_> GIGANTOR: kopete has support for yahoo messenger
[03:58] <GIGANTOR> i like to hear the 'tards talk in voice chat when i'm bored and doing stuff
[03:59] <abattoir_> GIGANTOR: i'm not sure you can do that w/ the yahoo messenger for unix
[03:59] <GIGANTOR> i even tried it in Wine,  no dice
[03:59] <GIGANTOR> i'll try kopete though, let me see
[03:59] <abattoir_> GIGANTOR: its an old version... and yahoo stopped development long ago
[03:59] <Agios> rr72:  you can do it with apt-get too.  There are several other things on the forums but that is the most recent.
[03:59] <GIGANTOR> oh..  suckage..  well nevermind  ;\
[03:59] <Agios> the fact that it once worked is promising :)
[03:59] <abattoir_> GIGANTOR: i'm not sure if kopete supports voice in yahoo messenger though, never used it
[03:59] <rr72> kk should i purge or no?
[04:00] <Agios> yeah, purge
[04:00] <Agios> give it a good enema
[04:00] <GIGANTOR> yeah, i can at least chat in yahoo with Gaim...  but just no voice
[04:00] <GIGANTOR> i'll give it a whirl though
[04:00] <rr72> Agios~ um no
[04:00] <GIGANTOR> thanks abattoir
[04:00] <abattoir_> GIGANTOR: np :)
[04:00] <Agios> rr72: you want to refresh the config files too, purge.
[04:01] <rr72> i mean the enama saying
[04:01] <GIGANTOR> abattoir-  how long have you used linux?
[04:01] <Agios> LOL, purge = enema
[04:01] <GIGANTOR> you are very knowledgable
[04:01] <abattoir> GIGANTOR: as the only os, for around a year and half...
[04:02] <abattoir> GIGANTOR: hehe, you really think so? :P
[04:02] <GIGANTOR> i've started using it on my home machine this past week or so, and i haven't even wanted to go back to Windows for anything, even games
[04:02] <GIGANTOR> just messing around is entertainment enough for me  ;P
[04:02] <CaBlGuY> anyone around that can help me with google-earth?
[04:02] <abattoir> GIGANTOR: well, apart from the odd CS/NFS sessions i'm not really a gamer, so never had a problem switching to linux :)
[04:02] <OOD> depends what the problem is :)
[04:03] <CaBlGuY> OOD:  well, I got it installed but, It's not runing..
[04:03] <CaBlGuY> :/
[04:03] <intelikey> arch/i386/kernel/apm.c:1204: warning: pm_send_all is deprecated (declared at include/linux/pm_legacy.h:31)
[04:03] <intelikey> arch/i386/kernel/apm.c:1258: warning: pm_send_all is deprecated (declared at include/linux/pm_legacy.h:31)
[04:03] <OOD> abattoir: counter strike works in wine
[04:03] <intelikey> lots of warnings building this kernel
[04:03] <GIGANTOR> i also now use it as my workstation at work now too  ;P   Sucks when i have to go play admin and deal with windows pc's
[04:03] <abattoir> OOD: its too slow for my integrated graphics card :(
[04:03] <GIGANTOR> so passe  ;P
[04:03] <OOD> CaBlGuY: did you install the ati/nvidia driver?
[04:04] <CaBlGuY> yes,
[04:04] <OOD> run in in console. what and paste what errors come up
[04:04] <CaBlGuY> OOD:  ok, gimme a sec..
[04:05] <OOD> abattoir: ah
[04:05] <OOD> CaBlGuY: paste in pastebin, not here
[04:05] <OOD> !pastebin
[04:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:05] <timi> ok i got it to burn mp3's and such
[04:05] <abattoir_> OOD: moreover messing around w/ my system is more entertaining... as GIGANTOR said :)
[04:05] <timi> and implaying it amarok and it fetched the correct lyrcs but it didnt auto into my collection
[04:05] <timi> howo do i do that
[04:06] <OOD> abattoir_: heh, i like to mess around too, but when everything works there's nothing to mess around :P
[04:06] <CaBlGuY> Ummmmmm
[04:06] <CaBlGuY> :/
[04:07] <CaBlGuY> why do I gotta be ROOT to run it???   :(
[04:07] <abattoir_> OOD: upgrade to edgy :P
[04:07] <CaBlGuY> OOD:  runs fine in root..
[04:08] <CaBlGuY> err.. "as" root
[04:08] <Agios> it ran fine as a user too when I had it installed here.
[04:09] <CaBlGuY> as a regular user? or root?
[04:09] <Agios> as a regular user
[04:09] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm
[04:09] <CaBlGuY> I musta had to log into the root account for some reason to install it then..
[04:09] <Agios> well, ran fine may be misleading. It crashed often enough that I gave up on it.
[04:09] <CaBlGuY> that's the only thing I can figure..
[04:09] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[04:09] <GIGANTOR> lol  ;P
[04:10] <CaBlGuY> have fun GIGANTOR  ;)
[04:10] <abattoir_> GIGANTOR: that's a game? :S
[04:10] <abattoir_> :P
[04:10] <GIGANTOR> be back tomorrow morning  ;)
[04:10] <GIGANTOR> LOL aba, one you never win
[04:10] <GIGANTOR> ;D
[04:10] <CaBlGuY> GIGANTOR:  if u need any help, don't hesitate to ask..
[04:10] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[04:10] <OOD> lol
[04:10] <GIGANTOR> have fun guys, talk to ya tomorrow  ;)
[04:11] <rr72> Agios~ i can't make drivers for the printer now
[04:11] <CaBlGuY> so, OOD   do I need to reinstall..  and if I do, how do I install with the regular account?
[04:11] <OOD> it worked fine for me when i just installed the deb with sudo
[04:12] <Agios> rr72:  your printer isn't in the driver list?
[04:12] <CaBlGuY> u installed with sudo, and u could run with regular account??
[04:12] <rr72> it is but i get an error
[04:12] <Agios> No, there was no deb when I installed it. I used the bin from google.
[04:13] <CaBlGuY> I think that's where I got it from too..
[04:13] <rr72> do i need to install driver via apt0get?
[04:13] <CaBlGuY> from the google site..
[04:13] <CaBlGuY> OOD:    this is what it says if I try to run it on regular acount..   >    symlink: Permission denied
[04:14] <rr72_> Unable to load the requested driver:
[04:14] <rr72_> Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Canon-BJC-2000,gimp-print] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[04:14] <CaBlGuY> course, if I use sudo, it open right up...
[04:15] <Agios> CaBlGuY: what symbolic link is it trying to create?
[04:15] <Agios> rr72: is foomatic installed?
[04:15] <CaBlGuY> dunno, but I just opened it up with sudo and it didn't ask for a pass this time..
[04:16] <CaBlGuY> :p
[04:16] <rr72> prolly nor
[04:16] <rr72> t
[04:16] <rr72> client or what one
[04:16] <rr72> i removed somin but don't rememebr what one cups deleted with it
[04:17] <KUbuntu-fr398> Arggh! Guys, I *really* need help setting up a VNC server...Help me please!
[04:18] <rr72> foomatic-db-engine is already the newest version.
[04:18] <Agios> rr72: well, I have almost every foomatic package listed installed.
[04:19] <draik> rr72, did you manage to get the printer shared?
[04:19] <Agios> I have them all installed except the one for gimp-print
[04:19] <rr72> draik yeah but its not printing
[04:19] <CaBlGuY> well, I know how to run it now anyway...   Hmmmmmm  wierd i gotta use sudo thogh....
[04:19] <draik> what's the error you're getting rr72?
[04:19] <rr72_> Unable to load the requested driver:
[04:19] <rr72_> Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Canon-BJC-2000,gimp-print] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[04:19] <Agios> CaBlGuY: if you knew the link you could just create it once and leave it.
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> OOD:  it may be trying to link to the server to check for updates..  maybe that's it..
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> but I dunno why I would need to use sudo still..
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> wi\erd
[04:21] <rr72> how do i see what was recently removed from my system?
[04:21] <OOD> CaBlGuY: i think it's because you installed it with sudo, and the symlink is in the root home folder
[04:21] <draik> I have been trying to setup my printer on my Kubuntu desktop with my laptop on the same router
[04:21] <CaBlGuY> OOD:  could be..  I may try to install it on the regular account later..
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> anyway, thanks for the help OOD   ;)
[04:22] <OOD> yea give that a try
[04:22] <DodgerAFK> hia ll
[04:22] <DodgerAFK> hi all
[04:23] <rr72> WTF it just worked too
[04:23] <rr72> how do i see what packs i just removed off of my system?
[04:25] <intelikey> rr72 which frontend to dpkg ?
[04:25] <Agios> there is an aptitude log and a dpkg log in /var/log
[04:25] <rr72> null
[04:27] <intelikey> rr72 if you used venella dpkg -r   then what ever package you named, thats what it removed.
[04:27] <rr72> intelikey~ it was a dependancy issue so i got rid of the stuff along with cupsys
[04:27] <rr72> but i cat a long file so it ovoer wrote
[04:28] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install -f
[04:29] <rr72> what will that do?
[04:30] <rr72> now i can't print at all
[04:32] <rr72> i am getting an error when i add my printer
[04:32] <rr72> it can't build driver
[04:34] <intelikey> draik cups
[04:35] <intelikey> add network printer
[04:35] <draik> I tried it and I get an error about a logon
[04:35] <draik> I tried all 3 options
[04:35] <intelikey> that's all i know about that.
[04:35] <draik> ty intelikey
[04:36] <rr72> ARGH i can't print now
[04:36] <rr72> Agios~ thx for the help so far tho
[04:36] <sophie_> rr72: What i do is print everything has a pdf and print it a work very cheap!
[04:37] <sophie_> rr72: no more printer at home
[04:37] <Agios> rr72: I'm not sure what's missing
[04:37] <rr72> sophie_~ i can have my dad print stuff at over 200 pps but i don't need that speed or quality or large foramt
[04:38] <scabootssca> how do i remove lilo and make grub the booter?
[04:38] <sophie_> another questions guys is firefox stable on dapper
[04:38] <rr72> scabootssca~ don't ask lilo he gets upset
[04:38] <Agios> firefox has been stable here
[04:38] <kameronk> yes, firefox is stable on dapper
[04:38] <intelikey> rr72 you said you removed cupsys     i'm like duh....  wonder if that's why cups config is not working now ????
[04:38] <sophie_> must be an extention tham
[04:38] <rr72> intelikey~ OMFG i forgot to re install it
[04:39] <Agios> well, that would be a problem alright
[04:39] <rr72> how do i see what was removed with cupsys?
[04:39] <Agios> doesn't matter, it will handle the deps when you reinstall it
[04:40] <rr72> nothing reinstalled with it
[04:40] <rr72> just itself
[04:40] <intelikey> do sudo apt-get install -f     and see if all deps are ok.
[04:40] <scabootssca> rr72, intelikey wait you're here ok i need to reinstall lilo how do i do that ? this time my linux is on hdb and windows is on hda it's reversed
[04:40] <Agios> that may be enough
[04:40] <rr72> intelikey~ yes
[04:40] <rr72> hplip mean anything?
[04:41] <Agios> you should probably have that
[04:41] <rr72> see that ws removed but not reinstalled
[04:41] <Agios> so, install it
[04:42] <Agios> I would try creating the printer again and see what happens
[04:42] <intelikey> scabootssca you change the "root=/dev/hdb1"  to  "root=/dev/hda1"      and the  "other=/dev/hdb1"  to   "other=/dev/hda1"     and run lilo.
[04:42] <rr72> hpoijs?
[04:42] <scabootssca> i'm on a live
[04:42] <scabootssca> cd
[04:42] <rr72> *hpijs anything?
[04:43] <scabootssca> so i edit /etc/llo.conf?
[04:43] <Agios> rr72: those may or may not be needed. They are HP related and your printer is Canon right?
[04:43] <rr72> yea
[04:43] <intelikey> scabootssca so exit the lilo.conf   and    chroot /<mountpoint> lilo
[04:43] <intelikey> s/exit/edit/
[04:43] <Agios> so try to add the printer and see
[04:44] <intelikey> scabootssca yes edit /<mountpoint>/etc/lilo.conf
[04:44] <rr72> Agios~ same msg
[04:45] <intelikey> you have to mount the partition some where   <mountpoint>  might be /media/hda   or some such.
[04:45] <scabootssca> it dosnt work.. it says "Warning: COMPACT may conflict with LBA32 on some systems
[04:45] <scabootssca> Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/hda")
[04:45] <scabootssca> "
[04:45] <intelikey> scabootssca you setup a raid ?
[04:45] <scabootssca> it's mounted in /media/kubuntu
[04:45] <Agios> rr72: same message as what? There have been several :)
[04:45] <scabootssca> i dunno?
[04:45] <scabootssca> what's that
[04:45] <rr72_> Unable to load the requested driver:
[04:45] <rr72_> Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Canon-BJC-2000,gimp-print] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[04:46] <rr72> higly dout it if u don't kno wwhat it is
[04:46] <intelikey> scabootssca try this     sudo chroot /media/kubuntu/ lilo
[04:46] <Agios> apt-get the foomatic-gimp-print package
[04:46] <scabootssca> thats execly what i dod
[04:47] <intelikey> hmmmm....
[04:47] <Agios> foomatic-db-gimp-print
[04:47] <scabootssca> my lilo.conf -> http://pastebin.ca/100381
[04:47] <intelikey> and it says raid_setup: stat(blah)  ??
[04:47] <scabootssca> yes
[04:47] <rr72> foomatic-db-gimp-print is already the newest version.
[04:47] <Agios> foomatic-filters-ppds   that one too
[04:48] <rr72> foomatic-filters-ppds is already the newest version.
[04:48] <Agios> foomatic-db-hpijs and foomatic-db-gutenprint
[04:48] <Agios> that's about all of them LOL
[04:49] <intelikey> scabootssca "    7. root=/dev/hda   "    hdb
[04:49] <rr72> Package foomatic-db-gutenprint is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:49] <scabootssca> ok
[04:49] <rr72> foomatic-db-hpijs is already the newest version.
[04:49] <Agios> ok hpijs and hplip-ppds
[04:50] <rr72> hpijs is already the newest version.
[04:50] <rr72> hplip-ppds is already the newest version.
[04:50] <rr72> WTF it just worked an hour ago
[04:50] <scabootssca> it still says "Warning: COMPACT may conflict with LBA32 on some systems
[04:50] <scabootssca> Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/hda")
[04:50] <scabootssca> "
[04:50] <Agios> well, that's all ther is
[04:51] <Agios> scabootssca: are you trying to set up a raid as a boot device?
[04:51] <scabootssca> what's a raid
[04:51] <intelikey> scabootssca looks like you've raided that drive     what does   fdisk -l /dev/hda    tell us ?
[04:51] <rr72> do i need b;uex-cups?
[04:51] <scabootssca> Cannot open /dev/hda
[04:51] <rr72> it was tehre before
[04:52] <scabootssca> intelikey, it says Cannot open /dev/hda
[04:52] <caminomaster> hello
[04:52] <Agios> rr72: go ahead. dunno what it does
[04:52] <intelikey> scabootssca looks like you've raided that drive     what does   sudo fdisk -l
[04:52] <rr72> bluetooth printing
[04:52] <Agios> oh, well, probably not then :)
[04:52] <caminomaster> can U help me? I need2 configure my proxy connection for kopete, but I'm in gnome...
[04:53] <scabootssca> intelikey, it says http://pastebin.ca/100383
[04:53] <Agios> kopete will run under gnome
[04:53] <rr72> sssssshhhhhhhhhh
[04:53] <rr72> don't tell him
[04:54] <timi_> hey im using amaork and it loaded my mp3s as well as system sounds
[04:54] <timi_> anyone know hbow i reomeve them frm my collection
[04:54] <intelikey> nothing unusual there....  put up your lilo.conf again scabootssca
[04:55] <Agios> rr72: I'm not sure where to go with your printer problem and I have to leave shortly.
[04:55] <rr72> nnnnnnooooooooooo
[04:55] <scabootssca> intelikey, ok here http://pastebin.ca/100385
[04:55] <Agios> well, there's always tomorrow :)
[04:55] <scabootssca> what does raided mean?
[04:56] <rr72> im going shopping for a watch tomorrow!
[04:56] <Agios> you won't need a printer for that :)
[04:56] <Kr4t05> >>
[04:56] <Kr4t05> <<
[04:56] <Kr4t05> That's neat.
[04:56] <Kr4t05> Playing with XGL. :)
[04:57] <intelikey> scabootssca i don't see a reason for that error.
[04:57] <rr72> HELP ME!
[04:57] <scabootssca> what dows that error ususlly mean?
[04:57] <scabootssca> anmd what dopes raided mean?
[04:57] <rr72> dr_willis~ HEY@
[04:57] <Agios> rr72: go to the ubuntu forums and search on the error message. See what pops up.
[04:58] <rr72> can u help me Dr?
[04:58] <dr_willis> Moo!
[04:58] <kazukisan> Serenity
[04:58] <kazukisan> woops
[04:58] <dr_willis> Please state the nature of the  Linux Emergancy.
[04:58] <dr_willis> :)
[04:58] <kazukisan> I have Dapper installed and have Opera Installed how do i get quicktime .mov files and rm or wmv Files to stream with it ?
[04:58] <rr72> kazukisan~ that ur pass?
[04:59] <kazukisan> thats the movie im downloading
[04:59] <rr72> dr_willis~ my printer wont install
[04:59] <dr_willis> rr72 bummer.
[04:59] <scabootssca> intelikey, i dont see any "/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386" but i do see "/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386" mabye thats it?
[04:59] <rr72_> Unable to load the requested driver:
[04:59] <rr72_> Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Canon-BJC-2000,gimp-print] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[04:59] <scabootssca> because windows boots from lilo but linux dosnt
[05:00] <rr72> dr_willis~ thats the error i get when i click on the driver to use
[05:00] <intelikey> scabootssca a raid aray is several disks what are all written with the same data and read as if they were one disk.  it's a system safty option for servers and ...    yeah you updated your kernel...
[05:00] <dr_willis> rr72 could be theres some extra cups packages ya need to install.
[05:00] <scabootssca> so i broke it?
[05:00] <intelikey> so change the number on vmlinuz and initramfs
[05:00] <dr_willis> fire up synaptic/whatever and see if any other cups/foomatic driver packages are not installed yet.
[05:00] <rr72> dr_willis~ which one? i have most off em ask Agios
[05:00] <scabootssca> should i chgange it to 26 instead of 23>?
[05:00] <intelikey> in the lilo.conf
[05:01] <rr72> dr_willis~ i use apt-get, screw the pack manager
[05:01] <intelikey> scabootssca yes.
[05:01] <rr72> i do the real way
[05:01] <dr_willis> sure.. whatever. :)
[05:01] <scabootssca> ok i did do you think it will work now?
[05:01] <intelikey> try it.
[05:01] <scabootssca> ok
[05:02] <xylus> can anyone help me with a realy important question//?/?
[05:02] <xylus> im using kubuntu now rite but i wana install debian latest stable version
[05:02] <xylus> and when i get into the setup it dosent detect my eathernet card
[05:02] <xylus> and brings up a big list of drivers
[05:02] <xylus> what should i do to fix this problem
[05:02] <xylus> anyone who could help me would be greatley apreciated
[05:03] <rr72> xylus~ stay with kubuntu
[05:03] <xylus> nooo kubuntu blows i can only install things that are listed with apt forget compileing source
[05:03] <xylus> airgo i cant download anything and install it
[05:03] <xylus> unless its on apt unless u can tell me how to get around that instead
[05:03] <kameronk> you can download rmps
[05:03] <kameronk> rpms*
[05:04] <kameronk> can convert with alien
[05:04] <xylus> rpms work on kubuntu?
[05:04] <kameronk> you have to use alien to convert them
[05:04] <intelikey> xylus why can't you compile    and why do you think you will be able to in debian ?
[05:04] <kameronk> just sudo apt-get install alien
[05:04] <xylus> because debain is a full os
[05:04] <xylus> where as kubuntu is alittle 500mb install
[05:04] <rr72> kubuntu is a full one too
[05:04] <kameronk> kubuntu is debian and more
[05:04] <kameronk> ubuntu (and thus, kubuntu) is debian based
[05:04] <xylus> debian is 2 dvd cds so most of the main componenets and dependencys are their
[05:04] <xylus> yes i know
[05:04] <kameronk> debian also uses apt-get
[05:05] <rr72> and windows is what 1.4gigs and is crap so its not the size that counts
[05:05] <xylus> kubuntu is debain based
[05:05] <xylus> i like the apt system
[05:05] <xylus> but i just want deb
[05:05] <kameronk> well, if you just want debian, get debian
[05:05] <xylus> wont detect my eth0
[05:05] <kameronk> o
[05:05] <xylus> brings up a list of drivers
[05:05] <rr72> look at DSL (Damn Small Linux) its a cd and rox
[05:05] <xylus> thats ok
[05:05] <kameronk> you probably just need to <i>compile</i> in the driver
[05:06] <kameronk> but you probably don't want to do that
[05:06] <Kr4t05> rr72: Slax its better. :)
[05:06] <kameronk> slax is cool
[05:06] <dr_willis> slax is handy
[05:06] <xylus> so this alien program allows me to install rpm's?
[05:06] <dr_willis> it converts rpms to debs
[05:06] <Kr4t05> !alien
[05:06] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[05:06] <rr72> Kr4t05~ it was in example
[05:06] <xylus> anyway of enableing ./config ./make and make install?
[05:06] <rr72> idc
[05:06] <xylus> on kubuntu
[05:06] <kameronk> well, i've gotten rpms to work via alien
[05:06] <kameronk> it's kinda hit or miss though
[05:06] <abattoir_> xylus: install build-essential
[05:07] <xylus> thx
[05:07] <xylus> sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[05:07] <abattoir> xylus: yup
[05:07] <Kr4t05> xylus: yes
[05:07] <xylus> kool thattel enable me to compile source programs?
[05:07] <kameronk> yes
[05:07] <xylus> man why dosent the system come with that
[05:07] <kameronk> most of them
[05:07] <dr_willis> many programs also have other dev dependencies
[05:07] <kameronk> it inflates the size
[05:07] <kameronk> so you may need more
[05:07] <dr_willis> its trivial to install is why.
[05:07] <abattoir> xylus: should, but you might need to install other development packages, based on what you are trying to compile
[05:07] <dr_willis> :)
[05:08] <xylus> all linux distros can compile source aside from deb and kubuntu right off the bat
[05:08] <dr_willis> xylus,  not true.
[05:08] <kameronk> as dr_willis said, not all do
[05:08] <abattoir> xylus: ^^^^ exactly
[05:08] <kameronk> especially the livecd based
[05:08] <dr_willis> and its trivial to install the stuff.
[05:08] <xylus> sigh..
[05:08] <xylus> i wish they would just make a distro that has everything pre installed
[05:09] <xylus> so u dont have to go through a shitload of hastle everytime u wana do anything\
[05:09] <xylus> lolz
[05:09] <dr_willis> then it would be called bloated.
[05:09] <kameronk> ^^ YES!
[05:09] <xylus> so atleast it would work
[05:09] <xylus> and you wouldent have to go get installs of java and crap
[05:09] <dr_willis> quit being such a lazy whiner.
[05:09] <xylus> every 5 minuts
[05:09] <dr_willis> :)
[05:09] <xylus> lol
[05:09] <kameronk> how do you define having everything?
[05:09] <dr_willis> install the stuff.. save your history to a file. so ya can rerun the script later on a different install if needed.
[05:09] <kameronk> if it had all the software from the apt repositories?!?
[05:10] <xylus> well i mean almost every time u install something it has a dependency isue or you need some other crap downloaded usualy takes like 5 hours to install something simple like limewire
[05:10] <kameronk> it would be too much for most desktop computers
[05:10] <kameronk> what you need and what i need are completely different
[05:10] <dr_willis> limewire takes me about 2 min to get installed.
[05:10] <dr_willis> perhaps 5 :P counting the download speed.
[05:10] <xylus> lol thats just a example
[05:10] <dr_willis> !frostfire
[05:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about frostfire - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:10] <dr_willis> !limewire
[05:10] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[05:10] <xylus> i tryed to download ldcc
[05:10] <xylus> and install it
[05:11] <dr_willis> Java  only just RECENTLY was legally allowed to be in the repos.. blame SUN.
[05:11] <xylus> and that took me like 3 hrs to get goin
[05:11] <xylus> lol
[05:11] <xylus> nyways thanks guys
[05:11] <xylus> what was the names of those development packages i needed again?
[05:11] <xylus> ill wirte them down
[05:11] <dr_willis> depedns on what you are compiling
[05:11] <rr72> xylus~ kubuntu FTW!
[05:11] <intelikey> !make
[05:11] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:11] <xylus> im compileing source as in ./make ./configure and make install
[05:12] <yender> hello all
[05:12] <dr_willis> normally the ./configure will spit out some errirs if they are not all installed.
[05:12] <rr72> and tell u what u need
[05:12] <dr_willis> xylus,  yes.. and it DEPENDS on exactly WHAT program you are compiling.
[05:12] <rr72> dr_willis~ DR please help my printer
[05:12] <xylus> indeed i could install programs like that fine on mandrake and redhat etc..
[05:12] <xylus> sigh dr willis
[05:12] <rr72> it worked when i went on vacation and now it doesnt work
[05:12] <xylus> u serious?
[05:12] <e-Hernick> Hey... I've got Kubuntu 6.06 installed on my Lenovo N100 laptop, with a 1680x1050 i810 display, and I'm using 915resolution so I can set it at 1680x1050. I've got a display corruption issue.. there is one horizontal line on my display that seems to repeat itself at another location on the display, and it's a software issue (it works in Windows)
[05:13] <xylus> so i gota download dev stuff every time i wana compile something?
[05:13] <dr_willis> rr72   no clue there.. enable verbose cups loggingm, and get some errors and check the wiki/forums .
[05:13] <rr72> i get an error when building the driver
[05:13] <dr_willis> xylus,  depends..  on what specificially you are compiling.. (for the 3rd time)
[05:13] <rr72> xylus~ how new to linux r u?
[05:13] <xylus> grrr
[05:13] <xylus> im kinda new but ive used many other systems befor
[05:13] <xylus> but kubuntu gets under my nails
[05:14] <e-Hernick> is it hard to install Xorg 7.1 on kubuntu 6.06? I was thinking I'd try it..
[05:14] <rr72> xylus~ have u compiled ur own kernel before?
[05:14] <xylus> ok isent their a all in one file for compileing their dr willis? i dont wana come here everytime i wana install software
[05:14] <Dasnipa`> xylus, why does it 'get under your nails' ?
[05:14] <scabootssca> intelikey, it didnt work
[05:14] <xylus> because the base system comes with 0 software and every time i wana get something done i gota do the runaround
[05:15] <scabootssca> i'm typing what error messahes it had into pastebin
[05:15] <dr_willis> xylus,  thats why you read the programs docs and see what other depeneencies and libs it uses/needs.
[05:15] <Dasnipa`> xylus, aptitude isnt very hard to use
[05:15] <dr_willis> xylus,  or ya run ./configure and see what it complaines about being missing.
[05:15] <kameronk> xylus, do you have the proprietary repositories enabled? such as multiverse and universe?
[05:15] <xylus> yes kameronk
[05:15] <scabootssca> intelikey, it d'snt run
[05:16] <xylus> i had to do that for karamba
[05:16] <kameronk> ok, because that has many programs not availble by default
[05:16] <Dasnipa`> xylus, this is true too... imo its good that it doesnt install any unneeded because then you only install what you need... not unnecessary overhead
[05:16] <kameronk> karamba is universe, proprietary software is multiverse
[05:16] <xylus> yes its good that you only install what u need but its bad because when u wana install something u need you go through much hastle to do so
[05:17] <dr_willis> compared to the hoops ive jumped through under windows.. your argument is pointless.
[05:17] <Dasnipa`> xylus, after a month or so youll have most of the basic libraries if you do a lot of compiling
[05:17] <xylus> ok kameronk i understand what the repositorys mean but im not sure how they work yet
[05:17] <kameronk> well, the specify where apt-get can download software from
[05:17] <dr_willis> !apt-get
[05:17] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:17] <xylus> yeah dasnipa i would just like to find a way to install all the basic libraries
[05:17] <intelikey> scabootssca your kernel version and lilo.config now match ?
[05:17] <xylus> so i dont ahve to look around so much :)
[05:18] <Dasnipa`> sudo apt-get build-essential i think has a lotta good stuff
[05:18] <dr_willis> all the libs, is differnt from all the dev-lib files that are used by the compiler to compile source that uses the libs.
[05:18] <dr_willis> build-essential is the minimal set of tools needed.
[05:18] <xylus> haveing linux without the basic libaries is like haveing half a windows partition lol going out and downloading dll files everytime u wana install something isent practical
[05:18] <dr_willis> xylus,  you are confused..
[05:18] <xylus> ok ill get the essential build
[05:18] <intelikey> Dasnipa` he's been told that several times now.    i think hes just trolling
[05:18] <dr_willis> if you do an apt-get install whateverprogram and it needs some lib.. it WILL install that lib also.
[05:19] <xylus> oh yeah i know that lolz
[05:19] <xylus> but the apt list of programs is small
[05:19] <kameronk> xylus, when was the last time that you updated the apt-get cache?
[05:19] <xylus> and i want to download stuff thats not on it
[05:19] <kameronk> "sudo apt-get update"
[05:19] <xylus> hmmm i updated about 5 hours ago
[05:19] <kameronk> apt-get has <i>almost</i> everything
[05:19] <kameronk> if you have the correct repositories
[05:19] <xylus> hmm
[05:19] <intelikey> the apt list of packages sure is small  only 18000+   that's really small.
[05:19] <kameronk> i'm looking for a link with directions to enable the others

[05:20] <xylus> yeah realy tho intell
[05:20] <xylus> well its not that its small
[05:20] <intelikey> !repos > xylus
[05:20] <xylus> its just htat most of the stuff i wana install isent on their
[05:21] <xylus> for instance ldcc and limewire and For some reason i apt got bitchx and its not showing on my system :S
[05:21] <xylus> lol
[05:21] <xylus> altho i think its because im running kde ive never used bitchx befor
[05:22] <dr_willis> ya havent checked out the bx docs. :P the binary is called BitchX last i looked. from the command line.
[05:22] <dr_willis> and irssi is better anyway. :)
[05:22] <scabootssca> intelikey,  heres what it says http://pastebin.ca/100407
[05:22] <xylus> yeah i looked up the binary in the find files and folders
[05:22] <xylus> and executed it
[05:22] <xylus> but nothin happen lol
[05:23] <xylus> nyways that dosent matter dr willis whats sunjava latest version called in the apt list? u knwo offhand? i need it
[05:23] <scabootssca> intelikey, and whenever i run "sudo chroot /linux lilo
[05:23] <scabootssca> "  it says "Warning: COMPACT may conflict with LBA32 on some systems
[05:23] <scabootssca> Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/hda")
[05:23] <scabootssca> "
[05:23] <xylus> sudo apt-get install sunjava?
[05:23] <timi_> anyone know why i cant click the play audio cd on amarok
[05:24] <xylus> timi do you hear sound when u use amarok?
[05:24] <xylus> i click play and the file is over in like one second lol
[05:24] <xylus> and its a 6 minut song
[05:24] <xylus> i just use xmms
[05:24] <scabootssca> did you enable mp3?
[05:24] <xylus> i find its more stable
[05:24] <kameronk> are they mp3's? you need a codec for mp3's
[05:24] <xylus> lol what kinda music player requires u to enable mp3! lmfao
[05:25] <timi_> yeah
[05:25] <kameronk> open source ones
[05:25] <scabootssca> linux ones
[05:25] <intelikey> scabootssca those are all initramfs errors.  it's booting to the initramfs  and the initramfs has not been updated so it's looking for root on /dev/hda1  which is now windows... you can enter   mount /dev/hdb1 /root ;exit    at that prompt to continue the boot proccess.
[05:25] <xylus> lmfgdao
[05:25] <Hobbsee> !mp3
[05:25] <timi_> i can play an audio cd in kaffeine
[05:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:25] <Hobbsee> xylus: see all of that ^
[05:25] <xylus> you actualy have to plugin mp3 files? so what is amoroks base file reg's?
[05:25] <timi_> but i have to burn it to an mp3 to play in amarok
[05:25] <timi_> no biggie really
[05:25] <kameronk> @ xylus: the mpeg 1 layer 3 audio codec is proprietary, developed by the Fraunhoffer Institute (from memory, i could be wrong)
[05:26] <timi_> i had toinstall some mp3 package
[05:26] <scabootssca> intelikey, after i do that it should boot right?
[05:26] <xylus> thats ok kame i dont like amrok nywhayz xmms is fine for me ;) dosent require any downloading or hastle its good to go off the install thats how i like it :)
[05:26] <xylus> lol
[05:26] <intelikey> scabootssca lilo is doing all it can there.  it's all initramfs from that point.   lilo already loaded the kernel and the initramfs   that's all it ever does.      yes. it should continuing booting.
[05:26] <DaSkreech> Yo
[05:27] <scabootssca> intelikey, and after it boots i can run the lilo command and everything should work right?
[05:27] <xylus> kame whats the install for java called
[05:27] <xylus> please
[05:27] <timi_> anyone know how to create a subcatory of album for amarok so when you click on artis it has the album and not just the song
[05:27] <Dasnipa`> umm you go to java.sun.com and follow their java instructions xylus
[05:28] <intelikey> scabootssca no.  run mkinitramfs   and update your initramfs.img-<uname -r>    then every thing will work.
[05:28] <abattoir> timi_: amarok should do it automatically if you have it tagged properly
[05:28] <xylus> hmm probs wont let me complle it does it have a .deb on their das?
[05:28] <intelikey> man  mkinitramfs
[05:28] <dr_willis> !java
[05:28] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:28] <abattoir> timi_: and, in your collection
[05:28] <dr_willis> For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:28] <timi_> it has the artists and then the tracks but the track informatin has the album and the track number and everyting
[05:29] <DaSkreech> xylus: sun-javv5-jre as far as I remember
[05:29] <rr72> who can help me save my printer?
[05:29] <kameronk> xylus: the sources.list file is in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:29] <scabootssca> intelikey, ok thanks i'll try that
[05:29] <kameronk> you'll need to kdesu kate to open it
[05:30] <xylus> thx guys dr willis your like a well of knolidge sorry i get frustrateing sometimes i just cant handle the emmence hastle quite yet i need to get used to all these libs and stuff in my opinion kubuntu is one of the more dificult linux distrobutions lol only because of that but ill get the hang of this eventualy
[05:31] <dr_willis> compared to the hassles i have with windows on a daily basis... Linux is  lovely.
[05:31] <xylus> i miss redhat but bleh redhat is hmmm kinda glitchey atleast on this laptop
[05:31] <kameronk> xylus: or save it... you just have to uncomment all the repositories to get all the software
[05:31] <DaSkreech> xylus: You know you can search for anything you like on p.you.c right?
[05:31] <dr_willis> Ubuntu has been the BEST disrto ive tried on my laptops.
[05:31] <intelikey> scabootssca when you change the phisical address of a linux installation you have several thing that have to be adjusted.  /boot/initramfs*  &  /etc/fstab  & (/boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/device.map   for grub) | (/etc/lilo.conf  for lilo)        and he's always in a hurry.....
[05:31] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: I had to use Windows today :( Dear lord
[05:31] <kameronk> xylus, do you know about apt-cache search?
[05:31] <xylus> lmfao whaaa windows is is mad easy you donwload a program for windows and thats it its installed and redy to go :P
[05:32] <xylus> thats why i dont like windows
[05:32] <nemo___> Does anyone know if it's possible to use Shoutcast TV, on any program
[05:32] <xylus> i wana get used to this
[05:32] <DaSkreech> kameronk: Wouldn;t make a difference if he doesn't have multiverse
[05:32] <Dodger_> DaSkreech: many have to use it everyday :P
[05:32] <xylus> i used windows for 5 years got tired of it :( not verry customizeable
[05:32] <osiris> nemo___, i have been looking for an answer to that for years
[05:32] <kameronk> DaSkreech: yes, but if he doesn't know the package name, he can find it now
[05:32] <xylus> apt-cache search?
[05:32] <DaSkreech> nemo___: Winamp
[05:32] <intelikey> well krap!  make kernel crapped out.
[05:32] <xylus> nope i dont please enlighten me
[05:32] <rr72> DaSkreech~ please help me
[05:32] <intelikey> arch/i386/kernel/built-in.o: In function `setup_arch': undefined reference to `check_acpi_pci'
[05:32] <intelikey> make: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1]  Error 1
[05:32] <Dodger_> i got annoyed with it the other day trying to figure out how the hell to make an actual symlink
[05:33] <Dodger_> *very* annoyed
[05:33] <nemo___> cant get wimamp to work in linux?
[05:33] <kameronk> xylus :yes apt-cache search keyword
[05:33] <DaSkreech> nemo___: Works like a beauty uder wine
[05:33] <xylus> whats a apt-cache do?
[05:33] <DaSkreech> wonder
[05:33] <DaSkreech> under :(
[05:33] <kameronk> !apt-cache
[05:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about apt-cache - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:33] <nemo___> well It works under wine, but not the tv part just blank
[05:33] <DaSkreech> xylus: Do you use adept?
[05:34] <xylus> yes i have adept
[05:34] <rr72> my printer can't get a driver
[05:34] <kameronk> oh, duh, that's probably the easiest thing for him to do
[05:34] <DaSkreech> nemo___: Really? SHouldn't make a difference that's all server based
[05:34] <rr72> i get an error
[05:34] <xylus> p.you.c is that a website?
[05:34] <rr72_> Unable to load the requested driver:
[05:34] <rr72_> Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Canon-BJC-2000,gimp-print] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[05:34] <DaSkreech> nemo___: Are you In America?
[05:34] <nemo___> yes
[05:34] <DaSkreech> xylus: Yep packages.ubuntu.com
[05:34] <DaSkreech> rr72: Which Printer?
[05:34] <xylus> kk
[05:35] <DaSkreech> xylus: Do you have it open?
[05:35] <rr72> DaSkreech~ bjc-2000
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Canon?
[05:35] <rr72> if u read error it tell u in plain text
[05:35] <Dodger_> is there any way to get kpilot to start and hotsync when i plug my palm into USB?
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Which error?
[05:35] <timi_> tso your amarok has the artis then album?
[05:35] <xylus> hold on daskreeech
 p.you.c is that a website?
 Unable to load the requested driver:
 Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Canon-BJC-2000,gimp-print] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[05:35] <DaSkreech> nemo___: I heard that they started blocking the TV section to anyone not in the US. Some export law
[05:36] <nemo___> still works fine in windowz on my buddies pc
[05:36] <xylus> hmmm
[05:36] <xylus> im not sure what p.you.c is
[05:36] <DaSkreech> nemo___: Does it throw an error?
[05:37] <DaSkreech> xylus: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:37] <xylus> i click dapper rite?
[05:37] <DaSkreech> Sure
[05:37] <nemo___> nope. Media library works fie but when i go to  Shoutcast tv,  it's just blank, like it doesnt want to load
[05:37] <xylus> da skreech this is the list of all the files on the apt list?
[05:38] <timi_> im retarded
[05:38] <timi_> i figured it out
[05:38] <rr72> timi_~ compared to xylusu arent
[05:38] <rr72> im going
[05:38] <rr72> i will fix my printer tomorro
[05:38] <DaSkreech> rr72: Ok sorry I couldn't help
[05:38] <kameronk> xylus, yes, that is a categorized view
[05:39] <rr72> its all Agios fault
[05:39] <xylus> ok next to them it says universe multivers i know what that means
[05:39] <xylus> but why is it their ?
[05:39] <xylus> who cares if the program is universe or not
[05:39] <xylus> solong as it works
[05:39] <xylus> rite?
[05:39] <TokenBad> how do I mount a linux partition in kubuntu?
[05:39] <xylus> token
[05:40] <dr_willis> !mount
[05:40] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:40] <dr_willis> edit the fstab and mount it where ever ya want.
[05:40] <dr_willis> or use the mount command
[05:40] <xylus> nvm
[05:40] <PFl0yd> dr_willis: ya little more complex than that
[05:40] <xylus> lol dr beat me to it
[05:40] <PFl0yd> tho
[05:40] <dr_willis> Not really. :)
[05:40] <PFl0yd> wellll
[05:40] <DaSkreech> xylus: No the packages are kept in different sections
[05:40] <xylus> ok
[05:40] <PFl0yd> if you're a user you'd have to specify noauto,user
[05:40] <dr_willis> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hereyago
[05:40] <DaSkreech> xylus: Stuff in main is Ubuntu *blessed*
[05:40] <dr_willis> :)
[05:40] <TokenBad> that says for ubuntu...but how in kubuntu...
[05:40] <PFl0yd> stuff like that i meant
[05:41] <TokenBad> the commands are different
[05:41] <xylus> lol darskreech
[05:41] <kameronk> no, ubuntu and kubuntu are the same from the command line
[05:41] <dr_willis> a 'user'  mouning  an linux partition would be a little odd.. and they better have the  permissions right.
[05:41] <xylus> hmmm slowley understanding...
[05:41] <kameronk> they only differ in desktop environment
[05:41] <kameronk> kde vs. gnome
[05:41] <TokenBad> yes...but the mount thing from ubotu gives for gnome...not kde
[05:41] <xylus> ok what verse is gnome and what vers is kde?
[05:41] <PFl0yd> dr_willis: so if me as a 'user' throws in a usb stick
[05:41] <scabootssca> intelikey, it didnt work it says "mount: Mounting /dev/hdb1 on /root failed:  Invalid argument"
[05:41] <PFl0yd> that's not weird really
[05:42] <DaSkreech> xylus: Anything in universe is kept up to date by somebody but Ubuntu is not responsible for it
[05:42] <intelikey> scabootssca when you change the phisical address of a linux installation you have several thing that have to be adjusted.  /boot/initramfs*  &  /etc/fstab  & (/boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/device.map   for grub) | (/etc/lilo.conf  for lilo)        and he's always in a hurry.....
[05:42] <kameronk> xylus, kubuntu and ubuntu use the same repositories
[05:42] <xylus> ok got it
[05:42] <TokenBad> yes...but the way to use the gui to get to set things are different
[05:42] <DaSkreech> xylus: Multiverse has things which are not really LInux friendly. They work but have restrictions that make them not welcome in the Open source world
[05:42] <kameronk> they are the same base system, they only differ in whether or not they have kde-desktop or gnome-desktop
[05:43] <TokenBad> but thats neither here nor there...
[05:43] <xylus> ok
[05:43] <DaSkreech> xylus: LIke Java. Which you will be able to get easy once you add multiverse :)
[05:43] <intelikey> scabootssca so try a chroot fix on the initramfs before you try another reboot.
[05:43] <xylus> so the verses are different places the programs are installed to kinda rite?
[05:43] <kameronk> if you use kubuntu you can easily install gnome by typing sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[05:43] <dr_willis> PFl0yd,  if that usb stick is a ext2 partition. its possibel that your user could mount it. but not be abvle to read/write to it.
[05:43] <xylus> u mean i dont have a multiverse allredy?
[05:43] <xylus> how do i add multiverse
[05:43] <DaSkreech> xylus: Nope
[05:43] <dr_willis> !easywource
[05:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about easywource - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:43] <dr_willis> !easysource
[05:43] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:44] <dr_willis> that site lets ya do it easially enough
[05:44] <DaSkreech> !multiverse > xylus
[05:44] <xylus> !multiverse
[05:44] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:44] <PFl0yd> dr_willis: yea it's prob. fat32 tho...
[05:44] <scabootssca> intelikey, like sudo chroot /linux mkinitramfs
[05:44] <xylus> ok ill read all that thanks daskreech for all yr help
[05:44] <PFl0yd> man i kinda wanna work for novell these days...
[05:44] <PFl0yd> http://novell.com
[05:44] <PFl0yd> they're all about linux now...
[05:44] <TokenBad> why would anyone want gnome if they installed kubuntu...all I wanted to know was how to mount a linux partition in kubuntu...
[05:44] <intelikey> scabootssca yep   man initramfs first.
[05:44] <DaSkreech> xylus: Sure. after a week tell me if Windows is hard to use ;-)
[05:44] <intelikey> err  mkinitramfs
[05:45] <scabootssca> ok it jumped about 8 lines
[05:45] <DaSkreech> TokenBad: What?
[05:45] <TokenBad> I tried using the disk manager...but it wouldn't let me mount it
[05:45] <PFl0yd> TokenBad: what kind of partition is it?
[05:45] <PFl0yd> ext2?
[05:45] <kameronk> i was just saying that it's trivial if one wanted to switch, and was pointing out how underneath it all, they are the same: ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, and xubuntu are all ubuntu base + desktop manager and more tools
[05:45] <scabootssca> intelikey, now "sudo chroot /linux intiramfs.img-<unamr -r>"?
[05:46] <PFl0yd> kameronk: ya and just raw debian isn't that much different of course either
[05:46] <PFl0yd> i switched from debian
[05:46] <TokenBad> PFl0yd, it just says linux
[05:47] <intelikey> sudo chroot /linux mkinitramfs -o intiramfs.img-2.6.15-26-386 2.6.15-26-386      <--- iirc.
[05:47] <DaSkreech> TokenBad: Where are you looking at it?
[05:47] <intelikey> scabootssca ^
[05:47] <PFl0yd> TokenBad: like you did an fdisk /dev/hdwhatever and it just says linux?
[05:47] <PFl0yd> er cfdisk actually
[05:48] <PFl0yd> that means it's ext2
[05:48] <PFl0yd> your line in fstab would be something like
[05:49] <ironfroggy> i have some documentation that is comprised of many html files. is there some way to print them all together?
[05:49] <PFl0yd>  /dev/hda1 /media/mountpoint ext2 user,noauto 0 0
[05:49] <PFl0yd> hda1 should be changed to the drive and partition you're talking about
[05:49] <scabootssca> intelikey, ok i'm doing it
[05:49] <PFl0yd>  /media/mountpoint is where you want to mount it
[05:50] <scabootssca> ok done now what?
[05:50] <PFl0yd> and user,noauto means users can mount it and don't automatically mount it at boot
[05:50] <PFl0yd> (leave the noauto part out if you actually want it to auto mount at boot)
[05:50] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: You mean you want them in one file?
[05:50] <scabootssca> intelikey, i guess i restert now?
[05:51] <intelikey> scabootssca when that finishes  it should leave an initramfs.img*  in  /linux   move it to /linux/boot/    and run lilo again.       that assumes it completes correctly.
[05:51] <scabootssca> ok
[05:51] <PFl0yd> TokenBad: you get it?
[05:51] <intelikey> check the file size first.
[05:51] <TokenBad> PFl0yd, not yet
[05:51] <intelikey> if size is 0   it's a dud
[05:51] <ironfroggy> DaSkreech: i dont care if they are in one file, i just want them printed in proper order and without more pagebreaks between the individual files would be nice too.
[05:52] <PFl0yd> TokenBad: k
[05:52] <PFl0yd> well google can help too
[05:52] <intelikey> : > 0
[05:52] <scabootssca> intelikey, ok there is a .img file there how do i move it? cp whatever whatever?
[05:52] <intelikey> yep
[05:52] <intelikey> or mv
[05:53] <xylus> skreech u here bro
[05:53] <xylus> ?
[05:53] <TokenBad> PFl0yd, its not working...its not telling me what it is...
[05:53] <xylus> my adept program dosent have manage repositorys listed under the adept tab
[05:53] <DaSkreech> xylus: Yeah
[05:53] <DaSkreech> xylus: What does it have?
[05:53] <xylus> quit
[05:53] <xylus> that is all
[05:53] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: I'd cat them together
[05:53] <scabootssca> ok it's there now
[05:54] <DaSkreech> xylus: What other menus do you have?
[05:54] <scabootssca> intelikey, ok i moved it
[05:54] <xylus> edit view settings and help
[05:54] <intelikey> and sudo chroot /linux lilo
[05:54] <intelikey> ?
[05:54] <ironfroggy> DaSkreech: well its off a website. i was hoping to avoid manually downloading them all.
[05:55] <intelikey> scabootssca check the file name against lilo.conf  make sure you are pointing at the new initramfs file
[05:55] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: Erm.. Ok So You wanted to print them all off the net at once?
[05:55] <intelikey> dubble checking is a lot easier than rebooting.
[05:55] <ironfroggy> yes.
[05:55] <DaSkreech> xylus: What's under edit?
[05:56] <TokenBad> PFl0yd, its ext3
[05:56] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: I honestly don't know of a way without a curl or wget haack
[05:56] <scabootssca> it still has that raid thing
[05:56] <intelikey> does it error out ?
[05:56] <xylus> undu redu thats it
[05:56] <scabootssca> it does exactly what it did before
[05:56] <intelikey> pastebin
[05:57] <xylus> earlier i did this perhaps i skrewed up my adept here check it out
[05:57] <DaSkreech> xylus: :-|
[05:57] <ironfroggy> DaSkreech: ok i thought there might be a nice tool for grabbing multi-page documentation and preparing them for print.
[05:57] <xylus> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list del the list
[05:57] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: That would be curl but if you knew curl you wouldn't be asking :)
[05:57] <PFl0yd> when you do like
[05:57] <xylus> and put in one off a website
[05:57] <PFl0yd> mount /media/mountpoint
[05:57] <xylus> would that skrew up my adept ?
[05:57] <PFl0yd> what's it say?
[05:57] <DaSkreech> xylus: Right
[05:57] <DaSkreech> xylus: o
[05:57] <DaSkreech> xylus: no
[05:58] <xylus> ok
[05:58] <intelikey> scabootssca lets get it right this time.    i don't want to have to talk to you again tonight.     ;)
[05:58] <xylus> hmmm all good ill try and do it using the terminal rather than looking for manage reposotorys
[05:58] <xylus> thx man
[05:58] <kameronk> xylus: have you tried installing wine and using a windows version of limewire?
[05:58] <scabootssca> intelikey,  http://pastebin.ca/100434
[05:58] <DaSkreech> xylus: sure
[05:59] <PFl0yd> limewire?
[05:59] <scabootssca> see exactley like before
[05:59] <xylus> lol if i cant install lime because of dependencys than wine probs wont work actualy ide rather just use soemthing else
[05:59] <PFl0yd> just use gift and the fasttrack plugin :)
[05:59] <xylus> knwo of any other p2p porograms for linux i can get off the apt kame?
[05:59] <PFl0yd> apt-get install apollon
[06:00] <scabootssca> xylus, you can use frostwire
[06:00] <ironfroggy> DaSkreech: getting the files is only part of the problem
[06:00] <kameronk> windows software dosen't have dependencies
[06:00] <xylus> cool apt get frostwire?
[06:00] <xylus> geared ill try it out
[06:00] <xylus> no but i bet wine does
[06:00] <DaSkreech> !frostwire > xylus
[06:00] <Kr4t05> xylus: I don't think frostwire is in the repos.
[06:00] <xylus> i have 0 exp with using window emulators
[06:00] <DaSkreech> kameronk: Not true they do
[06:00] <intelikey> scabootssca sudo mount proc /linux/proc -t proc && sudo chroot /linux/lilo && umount /linux/proc
[06:00] <DaSkreech> !limewire
[06:00] <scabootssca> do those?
[06:00] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[06:01] <kameronk> well, they do, but wine has that covered
[06:01] <intelikey> one line ^  everything after your name
[06:01] <xylus> so all i need to do is get my head around these repositorys and how to manage them
[06:01] <ironfroggy> anyway, i actually found a single file version, but im having trouble printing it. ive seen this before tho, it seems like html files ignore the "odd pages only" option when i want to print them, or at least that is what i see in the print preview. is there some way to print only odd pages of an html file from konq?
[06:01] <xylus> and i can pretymuch install anything ?
[06:01] <xylus> because the list i see right now is kinda small
[06:01] <TokenBad> PFl0yd, got it figured out...
[06:01] <DaSkreech> xylus: Most things
[06:01] <xylus> but i think my adept is running off the main repo
[06:01] <xylus> i wana switch it to universe
[06:01] <DaSkreech> xylus: very likely
[06:01] <xylus> so i can see more programs XD
[06:01] <kameronk> if you update your sources.list, it will all start to work
[06:01] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: :-( Sorry not sure
[06:01] <kameronk> you may have to apt-get update
[06:01] <xylus> ill try that
[06:02] <xylus> jsut a sec kame ;)
[06:02] <kameronk> or sudo apt-get update
[06:02] <DaSkreech> xylus: Don't forget to reload in adept :)
[06:02] <intelikey> scabootssca if it doesn't say  adding linux*   windows   then it's erroring out.
[06:02] <xylus> ok done update
[06:02] <xylus> i try opening add remove programs now
[06:02] <scabootssca> it's erroring then i'm pasting it on pastebin
[06:02] <DaSkreech> xylus: Woah You were using add/remove programs?
[06:02] <scabootssca> intelikey, http://pastebin.ca/100437
[06:03] <xylus> yeah isent that the adept manager?
[06:03] <xylus> it says adept at the top
[06:03] <DaSkreech> xylus: Not quite :)
[06:03] <DaSkreech> xylus: But go ahead
[06:03] <xylus> aww how should i go about it than captin!
[06:03] <kameronk> yes, in the KMenu, the Add/Remove Programs option opens Adept
[06:03] <DaSkreech> xylus: Alt+Enter -> type adept -> Press enter
[06:03] <scabootssca> intelikey, because for some reason the windows dtrive stopped working as a slave
[06:04] <xylus> alt enter does nothing
[06:04] <intelikey> scabootssca sudo umount /proc   and rerun that string.
[06:04] <kameronk> xylus, once you get used to the command line apt-get and apt-cache, it's much quicker than adept
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Alt+Space sorry
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Whoops
[06:04] <qwertybob> need help bad, i cant boot error is ... target filesystem doesnt have /sbin/init
[06:04] <kameronk> unless you just want generic software for something, and want the category view
[06:04] <qwertybob> ive booted using knoppix
[06:04] <xylus> kk what is apt cache anyway?
[06:04] <xylus> simple explanation will do i jsut wnaa know what it does
[06:05] <intelikey> i guess windows xp can only live on hda1   poor poor winxp  so weak    so lame....
[06:05] <scabootssca> intelikey, it says device is busy
[06:05] <xylus> lmfao intel i dont even have windows on my system
[06:05] <DaSkreech> xylus: When you update it downloads all the information about the programs that are available
[06:05] <xylus> kk and the cache?
[06:05] <intelikey> scabootssca lets try another approach   one liner comming...
[06:06] <DaSkreech> xylus: It caches them locally. Apt-cache allows you to search the cache for things even if you are not on the net
[06:06] <kameronk> xylus, among other things, apt-cache search will allow you to search for the package name
[06:06] <xylus> ok so i type apt-cache ummm xchat for instance
[06:06] <qwertybob> is there a way to update ubuntu while in knoppix i read it might be a udev bug or something?
[06:06] <DaSkreech> So you can check on things
[06:06] <xylus> and ittel find it for me?
[06:06] <DaSkreech> apt-cache search xchat
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[06:06] <kameronk> yeah
[06:06] <xylus> kk ill try it with frostwire
[06:06] <intelikey> sudo chroot /linux mount proc /proc -t proc
[06:07] <DaSkreech> xylus: tried alt+space ?
[06:07] <intelikey> scabootssca tell me what that does.
[06:07] <xylus> hmm nothing happen when i type sudo apt-cache frostwire
[06:07] <DaSkreech> xylus: read !frostwire
[06:07] <xylus> dident expect anythign to
[06:07] <xylus> but still
[06:07] <DaSkreech> !frostwire
[06:07] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Read that page
[06:07] <xylus> kk thx daskreech
[06:08] <DaSkreech> You can't install frostwire
[06:08] <kameronk> you don't need to sudo, and you just type "apt-cache search frostwire"
[06:08] <intelikey> xylus ... search ....
[06:08] <scabootssca> intelikey, says then "mount: proc already mounted
[06:08] <scabootssca> " then "ubuntu@dsl-gerl-135-103:~$ DaSkreech xylus: tried alt+space ?
[06:08] <scabootssca> "
[06:08] <xylus> no sudo gotcha
[06:08] <xylus> i tryed alt space
[06:08] <xylus> dose nothing
[06:08] <kameronk> xylus, it won't help, but it won't hurt
[06:08] <xylus> nvm
[06:08] <DaSkreech> scabootssca: Eh?
[06:08] <xylus> whats a katapult lol
[06:08] <DaSkreech> xylus: Type adept
[06:08] <dr_willis> !info katapult
[06:08] <ubotu> katapult: item launcher for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 264 kB, installed size 1932 kB
[06:08] <kameronk> !katapult
[06:08] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[06:08] <intelikey> scabootssca something is hosed there... does  ls /linux/proc   show anything ?
[06:08] <dr_willis> :)
[06:08] <xylus> whaaaa geared
[06:09] <DaSkreech> xylus: You can open nearly any application or song like that :)
[06:09] <DaSkreech> Sweet :)
[06:09] <xylus> lol that katapult is the coolest shortcut ive ever sceen!
[06:09] <xylus> man thats pimped
[06:09] <xylus> lol
[06:09] <xylus> it scanns for names in like a instant
[06:09] <DaSkreech> xylus: It's gonna get better man Wait till you see the stuff they are working on
[06:09] <xylus> impressive
[06:09] <xylus> realy?
[06:09] <DaSkreech> xylus: Want to see something even cooler?
[06:09] <scabootssca> intelikey, it says http://pastebin.ca/100444
[06:09] <xylus> sure
[06:09] <dr_willis> and here i am still using WindowMaker. :)
[06:10] <DaSkreech> Alt+Space -> 2+2
[06:10] <xylus> haha wtf cool
[06:10] <intelikey> whoa !
[06:10] <DaSkreech> 2^36
[06:10] <dr_willis> alt+space -> porn   -> goes to www.biguns.com :)
[06:10] <intelikey> scabootssca pastebin the output of mount
[06:10] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: that's just your computer :)