[11:37] <Seveas> what happens if you run it from the terminal?
[11:37] <mahangu_> operation not permitted
[11:37] <Shin_Gouki> sudo
[11:38] <SOMNIVM> sudo killall gdm
[11:38] <Seveas> BockBilbo, no idea at all
[11:38] <Zeke1> hi, every tiem i restart ubuntu i have to manually set my eth1 to up and reset pppoeconf...how do i get it to do it automatically? can anyone help me?
[11:38] <mahangu_> there we go
[11:38] <BockBilbo> mahangu_, dot kill gdm
[11:38] <BockBilbo> use the stop option in the init.d gdm file
[11:38] <mahangu_> BockBilbo: got it
[11:38] <BockBilbo> ok
[11:39] <mahangu_> any idea why my dvd is messing up?
[11:39] <mahangu_> what's the command to see freespace on a drive?
[11:39] <SOMNIVM> what's the problem with the DVD?
[11:39] <BockBilbo> mahangu, have you installed libdvdcss2?
[11:39] <pepsi> df
[11:39] <mahangu_> BockBilbo: ill check
[11:39] <Cryptid> Which is the latest Version of Wine????
[11:39] <SOMNIVM> 200509xx
[11:39] <SOMNIVM> not sure for the xx
[11:39] <SOMNIVM> :}
[11:40] <knubbe> anyone who can help me to downgrade acpi-support from 0.45 to 0.43? ive tried "sudo apt-get install acpi-support=0.43" without luck
[11:40] <SOMNIVM> it should download the lateset version with apt-get
[11:40] <Cryptid> 200509 huh? i got 222503 how do i update it
[11:41] <bob2> knubbe: get the .deb. install with dpkg.
[11:41] <mahangu_> BockBilbo: ok installed
[11:41] <SOMNIVM> but wine's repositories don't work good for me...I'm downloading at 608bit/s !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:41] <mahangu_> but totem still freezes up, and gxine wont show the menu
[11:41] <SOMNIVM> Cryptid, impossible :)
[11:41] <BockBilbo> can you see the menus with xine for example?
[11:41] <knubbe> bob2: ok.
[11:41] <SOMNIVM> 2005 is the year, 09 is the month
[11:41] <Cryptid> is it?then i will be happy with the thing i have
[11:42] <SOMNIVM> xx is the day of the release
[11:42] <BockBilbo> (from the xine-ui package)
[11:42] <mahangu_> BockBilbo: nope
[11:42] <mahangu_> there is another library i need i think
[11:42] <mahangu_> just getting that as well
[11:42] <Cryptid> then i have the march edition
[11:42] <Cryptid> ne ways i also have cedega
[11:42] <Shin_Gouki> erick , ur going further? made some progress?
[11:42] <mahangu_> BockBilbo: still no luck
[11:43] <BockBilbo> mahangu_, maybe libdvdnav4 ?
[11:43] <Cryptid> SOMNIVM, do u use cedega
[11:43] <mahangu_> BockBilbo: got that
[11:43] <mahangu_> should i reinstall gxine?
[11:43] <SOMNIVM> Cryptid, nope
[11:43] <mahangu_> gxine is also different from what i remember it
[11:43] <mahangu_> the player i remember wasnt inside a window, and had skins, sort of
[11:43] <mahangu_> am i thinking of something else?
[11:43] <Cryptid> SOMNIVM, do u have a cellphone (symbian series 60 phone)??
[11:43] <BockBilbo> and what about the gstreamer0.8-dvd
[11:44] <SOMNIVM> Cryptid, nooo.... I have a Siemens...and it's not a smart phone
[11:46] <knubbe> bob2: do you know the url to any .deb package archive?
[11:46] <erick> sorry shin,
[11:46] <mahangu_> BockBilbo: that's installed too. now totem loads it fine
[11:46] <mahangu_> but no sound
[11:46] <mahangu_> sigh.. :)
[11:46] <BockBilbo> hehe
[11:46] <BockBilbo> check the gstreamer plugins
[11:46] <Cryptid> SOMNIVM, oh ok i actually wanted this smart movie converter for my phone i have the windows version but since i dont have windows i have to get it to work on linux and i dont know how to
[11:47] <BockBilbo> and of course, be sure you are running the sound daemon
[11:47] <SOMNIVM> Cryptid, try WINE, but I'm not sure it will work...
[11:48] <Shin_Gouki> erick , dont give up i know u can make it!
[11:48] <diego> hola
[11:48] <Cryptid> SOMNIVM, i tried it and it didnt work neither did cedega work i says loading stack and then it hangs, so i am in soup because of it
[11:48] <i-x> hello
[11:48] <diego> alguienme ayuda pliss
[11:48] <SOMNIVM> Cryptid, the latest WINE version is 20050930
[11:48] <bob2> knubbe: not for ubuntu
[11:48] <erick> thanks shin
[11:49] <bob2> knubbe: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:49] <pybe> recently did a fresh install of 5.04 on my laptop been working fine for a couple of days, tried asking to hibernate to see if it would work, it did come back up but networking wouldn't work so did init 6 and it wont get past configuring networks now. Only thing I can do is power off. Powering off 3 times ballsed it even more and grub broke, so booted knoppix and fscked the partition which fixed grub but it still wont get past configuring networks...... Any one
[11:49] <pybe>  got any ideas?????
[11:49] <mahangu_> BockBilbo: on my last laptop, i installed a dvd player, it was a skinnable one and worked this fine
[11:49] <bob2> diego: pretty clearly not a spanish channel
[11:49] <mahangu_> any idea what that migh tbe>
[11:49] <BockBilbo> mplayer?
[11:49] <diego> o sorru
[11:49] <mahangu_> diego: try #ubuntu-es
[11:49] <diego> sorry
[11:49] <mahangu_> BockBilbo: no not mplayer
[11:49] <BockBilbo> xine?
[11:49] <mahangu_> xine yes
[11:49] <mahangu_> where can i get a xine UI?
[11:49] <mahangu_> that is not gxine?
[11:49] <BockBilbo> sudo apt-get install xine-ui
[11:49] <Cryptid> SOMNIVM, so i have to unistall my present version before installing the latest version
[11:50] <Cryptid> or can i overrite it
[11:50] <mahangu_> whoops, got it!
[11:50] <mahangu_> BockBilbo: thanks, will see how this goes
[11:50] <SOMNIVM> Cryptid, uninstall....and make a clear install
[11:50] <BockBilbo> mahangu_, :)
[11:51] <erick> shin I got an error i use dpkg -i packages name and this is the error error processing sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+updated04_i386.deb
[11:51] <aftertaf> pybe:  try sudo ifdown eth0
[11:51] <BockBilbo> bob2, do you have any clue of why cant i see some fonts in flash sites using the flashplugin-nonfree ?
[11:51] <BockBilbo> :S
[11:51] <SOMNIVM> but I don't think it will work this time....why don't you try the trial version of crossover office ? It's wine based
[11:51] <mahangu_> aftertaf: lo
[11:51] <erick> short read in buffer_copy
[11:51] <aftertaf> hi screen fan ;)
[11:51] <pybe> aftertaf, it gets stuck in the boot sequence
[11:51] <Syruss> I'd like to install mame and the gxmame frontend on to my ubuntu machine, should I add a new repository to my sources.list (and if so, which) to install via apt, or should I download the source and try installing from that?
[11:51] <i-x> can anyone explain how to compile ndiswrapper? i've tried to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto , but it wont work. Please!
[11:51] <aftertaf> pybe:  remove the dhcp stuff...... loking where ;)
[11:52] <propagandhi> pybe: if you press CTRL+C when its at configuring network, does it get past
[11:52] <Syruss> i-x, be more descriptive 'it won't work' is not good.
[11:52] <diego> hola como me cambio a ubuntu es
[11:52] <diego> ???
[11:52] <pybe> propagandhi, nope all I can d is hold the power button
[11:52] <Belutz> !es
[11:52] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:52] <SOMNIVM>  diego, debes que escribir /j #ubuntu-es
[11:52] <pybe> propagandhi, the hd act light is v busy at the same time
[11:53] <propagandhi> pybe: what about booting the recovery mode kernel
[11:53] <bob2> BockBilbo: I don't use flash
[11:53] <pybe> propagandhi, behaves the exact same way
[11:53] <BockBilbo> oks bob2 thanks anyway
[11:53] <BockBilbo> :S
[11:53] <pybe> aftertaf, its not set to use dhcp
[11:53] <aftertaf> pybe: what does it use then?
[11:54] <i-x> Syruss: sed: can not read debian/changelog.utils: Map or file does not exist
[11:54] <pybe> aftertaf, gee let me think... er a static ip
[11:54] <i-x> Syruss: (my translation)
[11:54] <i-x> Syruss: (ubuntu post errors in swedish)
[11:54] <aftertaf> pybe:  hehehe.... is it connecting you with an ethernet modem? is it part of your local lan?
[11:54] <propagandhi> pybe: do u have a live cd
[11:54] <pybe> local lan
[11:54] <pybe> propagandhi, several
[11:55] <pybe> propagandhi, using knoppix now
[11:55] <propagandhi> ok, so boot a live cd and mount the ubuntu partition
[11:55] <ubuntu_> helllo
[11:55] <pybe> done
[11:55] <Hendric> can anyone help me install ubuntu on a DELL Optiplex GX1... and why does it halts on "disk partitioner" and shows me ??????????????
[11:55] <propagandhi> ok, can u paster the contents of /etc/network/interfaces
[11:55] <Syruss> hmm
[11:55] <propagandhi> *paste
[11:55] <pybe> one sec
[11:55] <aftertaf> pybe:  if you cant do it via live cd, then remove the NIC and reboot....?
[11:55] <Syruss> not sure i-x
[11:55] <Syruss> :/
[11:56] <aftertaf> Hendric:  how much mem do you have?
[11:56] <Hendric> 128MB
[11:56] <pybe> aftertaf, its a laptop
[11:56] <Hendric> p3 500MHZ
[11:56] <aftertaf> ahh ok. pybe if you deactivate NIC in bios then?
[11:56] <aftertaf> Hendric:  'should' be ok resource wise then...
[11:57] <Hendric> d disk is (as shown on the bios) an EIDE 13GB drive
[11:57] <Hendric> i guess its a problem with the drive..
[11:57] <erick> shin I encounter error
[11:57] <Hendric> because if i press continue on the error prompt... it says.. 'E: unimplimented function"
[11:58] <Hendric> any work around???
[11:59] <Hendric> and one thing.. it complains on ACPI something.. no such device
[12:00] <aftertaf> turn off all Power management stuff in bios...
[12:00] <Hendric> d bios is only one page and doesnt have any power management stuff
[12:01] <aftertaf> that sux. ive got loads of old optiplex at work and i leave them collecting dust.
[12:01] <mahangu> BockBilbo: xine ui works! :) ok now i need a tool to rip to disk
[12:02] <mahangu> dvd to divx?
[12:02] <mahangu> godfather trilogy! :P
[12:03] <BockBilbo> hehe
[12:03] <BockBilbo> mahangu, cant help you with that, sorry
[12:03] <ninotchka> hi
[12:04] <mahangu> BockBilbo: ok np
[12:04] <mahangu> thanks anyway
[12:04] <mahangu> :)
[12:04] <BockBilbo> ;)
[12:04] <BockBilbo> np
[12:04] <aftertaf> mahangu:  mencoder
[12:04] <Hendric> i guess i'll install debian on this...
[12:04] <Hendric> the debian 30MB iso
[12:05] <Jedrick> how to install java
[12:05] <aftertaf> !java
[12:05] <ubotu> well, java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[12:05] <Jedrick> k
[12:05] <Belutz> ubotu, tell Jedrick about javadeb
[12:06] <BockBilbo> query ubotu
[12:06] <mahangu> how can i see the amount of free space on a drive?
[12:06] <[LethAL] > fd
[12:07] <mahangu> thanks [LethAL]
[12:07] <[LethAL] > df*
[12:07] <[LethAL] > mahangu, you might prefer to add the --human option
[12:08] <Jedrick> i do this sudo apt-get install j2rel.4 and i got this error " E: Couldn't find package j2rel.4
[12:08] <Jedrick>  "
[12:09] <mahangu> [LethAL] : how can i see the file/dir sizes in a specific folder?
[12:09] <Belutz> !javadebs
[12:09] <ubotu> Belutz: Bugger all, i dunno
[12:09] <mahangu> ls -al ?
[12:09] <Belutz> !javadeb
[12:09] <ubotu> javadeb is, like, for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[12:09] <mahangu> but that shows bytes
[12:09] <mahangu> how can i get mv
[12:09] <mahangu> Mb
[12:09] <Belutz> Jedrick, go  to where ubotu just told
[12:09] <[LethAL] > mahangu, df --human
[12:09] <Jedrick> i did
[12:09] <[LethAL] > mahangu, as for dirs, no idea
[12:09] <Jedrick> thats what i do
[12:09] <Belutz> Jedrick, you have to download the java .deb files
[12:10] <Jedrick> from where?
[12:10] <Belutz> the url ubotu just told you
[12:10] <Belutz> don't you read it?
[12:10] <Jedrick> i told you ive been there and got that error
[12:11] <dasShHh123> hi
[12:11] <dasShHh123> hdeed
[12:11] <dasShHh123> ryhurhrhdrhf
[12:11] <dasShHh123> ryrtdhjfhhtfgjf
[12:11] <tristanmike> dasShHh123, careful, looks like you have some buttons stuck
[12:12] <dasShHh123> putang ina
[12:12] <dasShHh123> yopyhphupptp70t
[12:12] <Belutz> Jedrick, go to http://tinyurl.com/bwomt
[12:12] <dasShHh123> imujjuuujunyuhgihgterthsehthtubhhyr8tydgbthygurrvdyrhdhrhfcyrjydrghtr
[12:12] <dasShHh123> rhgjr9ry9ryr8y99yhujtuj8ybej908buyj8uybjod8rybj89ey
[12:12] <Belutz> Jedrick, where did you go?
[12:12] <Belutz> !ops
[12:12] <ubotu> ops is probably Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[12:12] <tristanmike> goodbye dasShHh123
[12:12] <dasShHh123> yrjmyeykyukyjutujtujmtujykcykcr86l8ll8kt6jt68ly7k
[12:12] <Jedrick> ok
[12:12] <Jedrick> wait i go check
[12:12] <Belutz> Jedrick, you are using hoary or breezy?
[12:13] <Jedrick> hoary
[12:13] <ubuntu_user> I Made A Mistake And Formated Ext3 Part', Now Have No BootLoader, HELP?
[12:14] <BockBilbo> ubuntu_user, use a livecd to restore te mbr
[12:14] <Belutz> Jedrick, ok go to that url i just gave you, download the .deb file
[12:14] <ubuntu_user> I'm on Live-CD and GParted is open, How do i do it ?
[12:14] <Jedrick> ok
[12:15] <BockBilbo> ubuntu_user, did you remove the system partition?
[12:15] <ubuntu_user> I Formated It
[12:15] <Jedrick> there are 3 of them.. which one?
[12:15] <Green_spritze> hi there!
[12:15] <ubuntu_user> And Now There Is no WIn BootLoader Or GRUB
[12:15] <BockBilbo> ubuntu_user, and what do you exactly wat to do?
[12:15] <BockBilbo> oh.. boot win?
[12:16] <Green_spritze> I'm looking howto send an email from the shell using my ISP's smtp server
[12:16] <Green_spritze> with postfix :)
[12:16] <ubuntu_user> i want et list the option to boot from windows XP
[12:16] <BockBilbo> if you want to boot win, yo need to restart the computer with your win cd inside the pc
[12:16] <ubuntu_user> and from there i will use PartitionMagic And Fix it all
[12:16] <rushboy> hello cansomebody tell me where i can find the german Ubuntu help channel ?
[12:16] <BockBilbo> and in the command line write something like RestoreMBR
[12:17] <BockBilbo> you cannot run grub since you have deleted your ext3 partition
[12:17] <BockBilbo> other option is to reinstall ubuntu
[12:17] <ubuntu_user> Fdisk /MBR
[12:17] <wolden> Could anyone be kind enough to help me doing the most basic of things?
[12:17] <Green_spritze> ubuntu_user correct! :)
[12:18] <tristanmike> wolden, just ask :)
[12:18] <ubuntu_user> The Problem That I Have No Floppy Disk!
[12:18] <wolden> ok, to install something, i swear im struggling my head off and i cant get beep media plyer on
[12:18] <BockBilbo> and?
[12:18] <ubuntu_user> And I'm Wreking My Brains How TO Create a WIn98 Boot CD.
[12:18] <ubuntu_user> And I'm Wreking My Brains How TO Create a WIn98 Boot CD.
[12:18] <BockBilbo> ubuntu_user, dont you have a cd drive?
[12:19] <ubuntu_user> Yes
[12:19] <BockBilbo> reboot with the ubuntu install cd and install ubuntu
[12:19] <tristanmike> wolden, did you "sudo apt-get install beep-media-player" ?
[12:19] <tristanmike> wolden, or search it via synaptic?
[12:19] <ubuntu_user> I allsow Have A burner on My Other PC, I Just Dont Know whare i can get the Boot Files So I Can Burn The CD
[12:20] <ubuntu_user> I trayed It, And got into A-loop
[12:20] <ubuntu_user> that was my first choice
[12:21] <ubuntu_user> can ubuntu be Installed on a HD that alredy have premade ext3 partitions ?
[12:21] <BockBilbo> yes
[12:21] <BockBilbo> though, format that partition first, it would be a better choice
[12:22] <ubuntu_user> that is i have the all 3 partitions, system swap, & the other one
[12:22] <BockBilbo> ubuntu_user, you can tell the installer in which partition you want to install ubunt
[12:22] <BockBilbo> *ubuntu
[12:23] <BockBilbo> i gotta go
[12:23] <BockBilbo> bye!
[12:23] <ubuntu_user> i did choos the system ext3 part' but it throw me into a loop
[12:23] <ubuntu_user> so i was not able to install it
[12:23] <monstah> hello.. i can't get the network to run.. i'm using wlan but the installer doesn't seem to recognize it, how do i fix this?
[12:24] <ubuntu_user> but lets say i'll tray it agin, will GRUb put en option agin to Boot WIndows?
[12:24] <BockBilbo> yes
[12:25] <ubuntu_user> OK BockBilbo, i'll give it another go.. Thanck you :}
[12:25] <tristanmike> ubuntu_user, what loop do you speak of? out of curiosity?
[12:25] <ubuntu_user> ty
[12:25] <BockBilbo> u r welcome
[12:25] <BockBilbo> tristanmike, i guess he hasnt configure the ext3 partition as /
[12:25] <BockBilbo> in the installer..
[12:25] <BockBilbo> bye
[12:25] <tristanmike> ahhhh
[12:25] <ubuntu_user> i don't know exactlly how to describe thr loop, i just can go on & install it.
[12:25] <ubuntu_user> the*
[12:26] <ubuntu_user> can't*
[12:26] <ubuntu_user> :)
[12:26] <tristanmike> ubuntu_user, it should be as simple as deleting all partitions *except XP* and let ubuntu do the rest :)
[12:26] <ubuntu_user> hmm.. i see.
[12:27] <ubuntu_user> you know what ...
[12:27] <tristanmike> that's "/" and "swap"
[12:27] <monstah> anyone know how to get a wlan-card to work?!
[12:27] <crashbox> has anyone been able to install vlc on an amd64 breezy install?
[12:27] <ubuntu_user> now that i can see all my partitions fro the GParted utilitie maybe i can to it now, from it?
[12:27] <jarkom27> halo
[12:27] <ubuntu_user> from* :)
[12:28] <mahangu> marlon brando rocks my pants off
[12:28] <mahangu> woo
[12:28] <ubuntu_user> trayed it, it's not letting me do it. i'll tray installing ubuntu..
[12:28] <mahangu> how can i force unmount my dvd-rom?
[12:29] <tristanmike> ubuntu_user, I just used the Ubuntu Partitioner, but should be similar, just make sure you don't wipe out XP ;)
[12:29] <ubuntu_user> yah, sure!
[12:29] <ubuntu_user> i know my XP part is hda1
[12:30] <dinci> my usb stick gets mounted on /media/no_name and not in /media/usbkey. why?
[12:30] <ubuntu_user> ok, ty all :} i'll give it a go. bye.
[12:30] <propagandhi> dinci: check /etc/fstab
[12:31] <supergrover> Is anyone using xfce4, and have to use a password to shutdown their pc?
[12:31] <dinci> i don't think the problem is in /etc/fstab. isn't it a problem with the automounter?
[12:32] <pschulz01> Help... I have hosed my partition table, and probably also my boot sector... the machine is still running.. does anyone know how I can restore these? The system is still running. (Worst case.. I'll backup and install Breezy)
[12:32] <propagandhi> dinci: in /etc/fstab the mount points are defined, is there  one there for the usb?
[12:33] <dinci> i don't have the linux box here - i will check for that
[12:33] <pschulz01> Help, I have trashed 'hda', my partition table and
[12:34] <nrbq> howdy, possums
[12:35] <nrbq> Are there any appies out there for Ubuntu similar to CoolEdit, Adobe Audition, and Cubase?
[12:35] <propagandhi> pschulz01: what happens when you execute cfdisk
[12:36] <aaron_> well, found alot of bugs in breezy... :-/
[12:36] <pschulz01> propagandhi: Free space 80 Gb
[12:36] <propagandhi> what the.. thats crazy
[12:37] <nrbq> does anyone know of any ubuntu apps out there that are like CoolEdit, Adobe Audition, and Cubase?
[12:37] <propagandhi> hang on
[12:37] <pschulz01> propagandhi: But /proc/partitions shows 4 partitions.. so I may be able to rebuild
[12:38] <propagandhi> pschulz01: you will be able to, gimme a tic
[12:38] <pschulz01> propagandhi: It was a 'dd' that went horribly wrong. (hda instead of sda)
[12:38] <propagandhi> ahh ok
[12:38] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq , there are
[12:38] <pschulz01> propagandhi: Friends don't let friends drink and dd.
[12:38] <nrbq> Shin_Gouki, can you recommend any?
[12:39] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq , sec
[12:39] <propagandhi> pschulz01: ha ha
[12:39] <nrbq> cool
[12:39] <pschulz01> propagandhi: It's one of my more faviourite tools.
[12:39] <propagandhi> pschulz01: have u seen this yet http://www.linux.com/howtos/Partition/recovering.shtml
[12:40] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq , muse?
[12:40] <Green_spritze> anyone knows a good textbased mail client ?
[12:40] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq , sweep
[12:40] <nrbq> I'll have a look - basically, I compose small pieces of music via midi keyboard (edirol) and external midi controller (edirol), but want to move completely away from MS
[12:40] <amorph> Green_spritze: mutt
[12:41] <Green_spritze> amorph thanks! that was the one I was looking for ... forgot the name ;)
[12:41] <nrbq> Shin_Gouki, have you used any of these? Can you offer any comments?
[12:41] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq , http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2001/10/05/snd_partone.html
[12:41] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq , check this out
[12:42] <nrbq> just going there now, Shin_Gouki
[12:42] <propagandhi> pschulz01: did u take a look, perhaps gpart or TestDisk will help first, otherwise you can follow those instructions
[12:43] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq , usefull ?
[12:43] <sree> hi
[12:44] <sree> how do I dual boot ubuntu wit windows
[12:44] <sree> without destroying my windows partitions ???
[12:44] <Shin_Gouki> sree boot manager
[12:44] <nrbq> Shin_Gouki, I'll read that article. Thanks. Much appreciated
[12:44] <Hobbsee> !dualboot
[12:44] <ubotu> hmm... dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[12:44] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq , :) glad to help
[12:45] <nrbq> :)
[12:45] <pschulz01> propagandhi: I'm happy to use 'cfdisk'.. but I'm going to have to reinstall the boot loader.
[12:45] <curious101> hello, anyone have configured a SmartLink modem with Ubuntu?
[12:45] <pschulz01> propagandhi: It's a mac mini.. so it not lilo.
[12:45] <nrbq> y'all be good
[12:45] <nrbq> peace!
[12:46] <curious101> does the "apt-get" command always downloads from the net?
[12:47] <sree> !google ubuntu
[12:47] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, sree
[12:47] <sree> ubotu
[12:47] <Shin_Gouki> curious101 no
[12:47] <pschulz01> propagandhi: What are blocks measured in? cfdisk wants 'sectors' or 'cylinders'.
[12:47] <Shin_Gouki> curious101 no also CD is possible
[12:47] <sree> how do I get grub working
[12:47] <curious101> oh
[12:47] <Shin_Gouki> curious101 manage via sources.list!!
[12:48] <Shin_Gouki> curious101 yes i was surprised too ^^
[12:48] <Shin_Gouki> ubuntu/Linux is .. very cool!
[12:48] <curious101> 'coz ubuntu guide tells me to "sudo dpkg -i sl-modem..."
[12:48] <curious101> and yes it was successful
[12:48] <Shin_Gouki> :)
[12:48] <curious101> however...
[12:48] <Shin_Gouki> still dont work eh?
[12:48] <propagandhi> pschulz01: the formula was on that page wasnt it
[12:49] <curious101> "sudo apt-get install sl-modem-daemon" would result in an error not found
[12:49] <curious101> since i already extracted the .deb package and put it in the apt-cache
[12:49] <Shin_Gouki> curious101 u have to reformulate ur question , ask here in channel if anyone knows sources for that desierd package!
[12:50] <curious101> i just wondered why "apt-get install sl-modem-daemon" won't work
[12:51] <pschulz01> propagandhi: Sorry.. didn't get message with instruction location.
[12:51] <supergrover> anyone use xfce4 in breezy?
[12:51] <Shin_Gouki> erick, got ur java runnig?
[12:51] <curious101> oh, sorry Shin. so I should be downloading that sl-modem-daemon package from the ubuntu archives?
[12:51] <Shin_Gouki> supergrover, i use icewm?
[12:51] <Shin_Gouki> curious101, try to do so
[12:51] <supergrover> don't worry, just wanted to check something about xfce4
[12:51] <propagandhi> http://www.linux.com/howtos/Partition/recovering.shtml
[12:52] <curious101> ok, thanks...i'll be back and report the results
[12:52] <pschulz01> propagandhi: Thanks.
[12:54] <aftertaf> !ops
[12:54] <ubotu> ops is, like, Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[12:55] <aftertaf> :)
[12:55] <Seveas> meh, the script kiddies woke up again
[12:55] <Hendric> where do webcams get mounted????
[12:55] <aftertaf> Hendric:  they clip onto the monitor usually.... ;)
[12:55] <Seveas> nowhere
[12:55] <Seveas> and that :)
[12:55] <Hendric> aftertaf, ow.. physically yes..
[12:55] <kemik> why's this network so plagued by bots ?
[12:56] <Hendric> aftertaf, in ubuntu where does it mount?
[12:56] <aftertaf> nowhere... its not a disk device
[12:56] <Hendric> i've had a near perfect system now... webcam is all i need last
[12:56] <Seveas> kemik, because MS infected all windows pcs with software that plagues open source and open source supporting projects
[12:56] <Hendric> ah... should i say location???
[12:57] <aftertaf> lol Seveas 1+1=2 ?
[12:57] <Hendric> /dev/webcam?
[12:57] <kemik> Seveas:  hehe, well yea ;) but i dont see these kind of troubles on other nets such as Efnet etc.. .
[12:57] <kemik> it's as if freenode has lesser security or sth
[12:57] <Seveas> you can't really prevent this
[12:58] <Seveas> it's a huge botnet
[12:58] <Seveas> and for some reason the kiddie behind it thinks it's a good idea to target freenode
[12:58] <Hendric> i've got DVD playin, mp3, mp4, wma, all of them, i can view webcam yahoo thru gyach (fixed).. openoffice.. and all
[12:58] <kemik> i c... well prevention: ban windoze ;)
[12:58] <Hendric> now i need to get my webcam broadcast.. any ideas about its /dev location?
[01:00] <Grant_> Hendric: mine uses /dev/video0 its just a cheap 8pound cam :)
[01:01] <Hendric> i got a webcam made in china with a windows driver that will install on all kinds of webcam and screws d driver database...
[01:01] <Hendric> very cheap very destructive webcam indeed
[01:02] <SteveA> hi.  my father (who is a retired linguist) just asked me if breezy supports chinese.  any experience with this?
[01:02] <Shin_Gouki> LOL
[01:02] <SteveA> he currently uses windows
[01:02] <Shin_Gouki> destructive webcams i might be afraid of this ^^
[01:02] <SteveA> mostly in english, but uses chinese websites, sends email in chinese, write chinese MS word docs.
[01:02] <Shin_Gouki> steveA
[01:02] <Shin_Gouki> Linux supports all languages
[01:03] <Hendric> Shin_Gouki, you should be! if you installed its driver on your system.. you won't make your CAM to work anymore.. trust me
[01:03] <Shin_Gouki> ubuntu even chinese
[01:03] <SteveA> i know getting chinese to work on debian takes a lot of work
[01:03] <ccooke> SteveA: there's good language support in Linux in general
[01:03] <kbrooks> 1.8gb ....
[01:03] <kbrooks> not much
[01:03] <SteveA> getting the input methods sorted
[01:03] <SteveA> new fonts
[01:03] <ccooke> SteveA: there are language packs on ubuntu
[01:03] <Shin_Gouki> steveA, yes lots of work but it is possible! try to use unicode as often as possible!!
[01:03] <SteveA> my father lives in a different country to me
[01:03] <Shin_Gouki> SteveA, yes lots of work but it is possible! try to use unicode as often as possible!! There are so many possibilitys
[01:03] <ccooke> SteveA: tell you what - I'll stick the chinese input method on here and see how easy it is
[01:03] <SteveA> and has never used linux before
[01:03] <Hendric> hey Shin_Gouki, any ideas on a distro for my DELL optiplex (old)
[01:04] <Hendric> ubuntu won't install and halts on partitioner..
[01:04] <SteveA> ccooke: cool
[01:04] <Hendric> that sucked.
[01:04] <topyli> SteveA: isn't reading websites just a matter of fonts? we do have those
[01:04] <Shin_Gouki> Hendric, yes use ubuntu like me! im ATM at a P233 , 128 MB ram
[01:04] <ccooke> SteveA: ... looking *very* easy.
[01:04] <Hendric> Shin_Gouki, it won't continue after the disk paritioner.. wondering wats wrong
[01:04] <Shin_Gouki> Hendric, u need net acess about 4 GB HD space LOTSS of patience the rest will be ok
[01:04] <Grant_> Or you could try and debian it and then upgrade to ubuntu :/ i've seen it done but dunno how neat it is..
[01:05] <Grant_> thats if debian will install :/
[01:05] <ccooke> SteveA: got breezy now?
[01:05] <kbrooks> Grant_: only on woody ;)
[01:05] <Hendric> my disk is 13GB... d PC is fast enough.. but it won't partition...
[01:05] <SteveA> ccooke: sounds good.  i guess i need to grab my breezy laptop and try it out.
[01:05] <Grant_> ah
[01:05] <Shin_Gouki> Hendric, i used new HD :/ askk here in challen for install support
[01:05] <SteveA> ccooke: nope, still hoary on this workstation.  breezy on laptop.
[01:05] <ccooke> SteveA: System -> Administration -> Language selector.
[01:05] <Hendric> k
[01:05] <Shin_Gouki> Hendric, if HD was empty, NTFS... etc..
[01:05] <kbrooks> Grant_: woody is so old that everything will be replaced anyway
[01:05] <ccooke> SteveA: that'll install all the packages you need.
[01:06] <Grant_> kbrooks: ah i didnt know what ver you could do that on :/
[01:06] <Hendric> Any install support for my old DELL with 13GB EIDE drive?? stalls on partitioner.. any helpful install parameter???
[01:06] <ccooke> SteveA: then, on System -> Preferences -> Keyboard, you need to add the Chinese keyboard layout.
[01:06] <SteveA> ccooke: that's great.  i'll try it when i have my laptop with me.
[01:06] <ccooke> SteveA: And you'll probably want the language selector applet for the panel. I think that'll do it.
[01:07] <ccooke> SteveA: That works for Hebrew, at least (my wife's Israeli), and this process installs bidirectional support in openoffice.
[01:08] <ccooke> SteveA: Ah, no. Chinese input is more complicated.
[01:08] <ccooke> SteveA: gimme a few more minutes
[01:08] <pschulz01> propagandhi: Thanks for your help. It was a good read. I'm going to reinstall anyway.
[01:08] <kbrooks> test
[01:08] <ccooke> SteveA: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25412
[01:09] <ccooke> SteveA: that's hoary. Breezy may be simpler.
[01:09] <ccooke> SteveA: just looking...
[01:13] <pilgrim_executer> does anyone know how to get ALSA working in windowmaker? or any sound at all for that matter
[01:13] <topyli> just looked at the default theme after a long time. breezy artwork is pretty nice!
[01:13] <Bateau_> how can i login as root?
[01:14] <topyli> !root
[01:14] <ubotu> hmm... root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:14] <eythian> In firefox, I used to be able to have a URL in the clipboard, and middle-click on the page and it would go to that URL. Now that doesn't seem to work. Any ideas why?
[01:14] <Belutz> has anyone successfully install netbeans in breezy?
[01:14] <ccooke> SteveA: actually, the language selector alone does almost everything you need.
[01:15] <topyli> eythian: yeah, i miss that too
[01:15] <ccooke> SteveA: I'm not sure about a chinese input method, but that looks pretty easy to install.
[01:15] <eythian> topyli, when did it go away?
[01:15] <pilgrim_executer> the middle click works for me
[01:15] <SteveA> ccooke: thanks for your pointers.  i'll give it a go.
[01:16] <SteveA> if it works out, i'll encourage my father to try breezy
[01:16] <topyli> eythian: dunno. i thought i only had to miss it because i've been using epiphany :)
[01:16] <Magist3r> hello
[01:16] <eythian> It used to work for me in FF, I'm sure.
[01:17] <topyli> eythian: yes, even in ye olde mozilla it did
[01:17] <pilgrim_executer> can i start alsa from a terminal?
[01:17] <eythian> yeah. Wonder how I can get it back...
[01:17] <Magist3r> sorry,i have problems whith ubuntu live,i boot from cd,then it says that can't find the cdrom,the pc is a notebook travelmate 4152 whith pci express,what kind of module i must use?
[01:17] <Magist3r> ty for help
[01:18] <aftertaf> pilgrim_executer:  what do ou mean, start alsa?  youcan modprobe the alsa mod for your card, and soundcore too...
[01:18] <eythian> ahah, in about:config there is an option middlemouse.paste Unfortunately, it's marked true, and it doesn't work :(
[01:18] <aftertaf> Magist3r:  look in /media    can you get your cdrom that way?  is it mounted?
[01:19] <topyli> eythian: i found it in ephy too just now. doesn't work
[01:19] <Magist3r> aftertaf, wait i open a shell
[01:19] <aftertaf> eythian:  maye in X your middle mouse button is mapped to sth else and it blocks FF.
[01:19] <eythian> No, I just worked it out.
[01:19] <eythian> about:config and change middlemouse.contentLoadURL to true
[01:19] <topyli> aftertaf: my middle click pastes stuff everywhere else, but not in ephy
[01:20] <Magist3r> aftertaf, i have in / the dir cdrom
[01:20] <Magist3r> but is not mounted
[01:20] <aftertaf> Magist3r:  and in /media ?
[01:20] <Magist3r> i not have any media directory
[01:20] <Magist3r> you means mnt?
[01:20] <pilgrim_executer> aftertaf: holy shit, i need the dumb ass award - my stereo was not turned on, lol! sorry hehe
[01:21] <topyli> Magist3r: /cdrom should be link to /media/cdrom
[01:21] <Stricklin> For some reason, I'm having problems installing wine
[01:21] <aftertaf> lol pilgrim_executer :)   it happens :)
[01:21] <eythian> Stricklin, how are you trying to install it?
[01:22] <Stricklin> eythian, http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[01:22] <Stricklin> from the console
[01:22] <Magist3r> topyli, i not have any media dir
[01:22] <pef> hello
[01:22] <eythian> Stricklin, OK. I did that today, and it worked fine for me.
[01:22] <Stricklin> hmmm
[01:23] <eythian> just add deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt binary/ to your sources.list, apt-get update, apt-get install wine and away you go
[01:23] <topyli> Magist3r: then your filesystem is either broken or custom :)
[01:23] <Magist3r> is an ubuntu live
[01:23] <Stricklin> I did those, but wine never shows up
[01:24] <topyli> Magist3r: ah, well then i don't know
[01:24] <Stricklin> Oh well, I need to move to Breezy anyway
[01:25] <eythian> have a look through synaptic or something?
[01:25] <[A] ndy80> I've a problem with my toshiba laptop and Ubuntu Breezy: when I suspend to ram or when system suspend itself to ram if I leave it on standy, I cannot resume it anymore :( I've to keep the power button pressed, and power on again... is it a fix available?
[01:25] <Dreamglider> i just installed ubuntu 5.04 from internet last night. if i follow the http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes on updating ubuntu to 5.10 how much will be downloaded ?
[01:25] <topyli> Stricklin: where should it show up? no "wine" binary? what does 'which wine' say?
[01:25] <Stricklin> in Synaptic, no wine package
[01:26] <aftertaf> !info wine
[01:26] <ubotu> wine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB
[01:26] <[A] ndy80> DreaManiac: if you just installed, why don't you get 5.10 preview and install it?
[01:26] <Stricklin> at the console, it gives an error
[01:26] <topyli> Stricklin: you haven't updated
[01:26] <aftertaf> Stricklin:  you enabled universe?
[01:26] <eythian> Stricklin, well? what's the error?
[01:26] <Stricklin> Yes, and no
[01:26] <eythian> aftertaf, the Ubuntu wine is crazy old.
[01:26] <eythian> well, fairly old, anyway
[01:27] <Stricklin> bah, gotta go to work, I'll mess with this later
[01:27] <Stricklin> thanks anyway
[01:27] <topyli> huh? there's an xwine package too. what does a wine gui do?
[01:28] <eythian> topyli, I think it's for configuration or something
[01:28] <topyli> eythian: such as winesetuptk?
[01:29] <topyli> ah, "It provides an interface for configuring and running MS-Windows applications". so it's a runtime tool
[01:29] <eythian> hmm OK
[01:32] <tristanmike> good night all :)
[01:32] <Bateau_> does someone here know about ejabberd? and can help me out? im trying to configure it to work with our companys existing AD users.
[01:32] <Stricklin> back
[01:33] <Stricklin> What does Ign http://wine.sourceforge.net binary/ Release.gpg mean?
[01:33] <Hobbsee> Stricklin: for some reason, the two newest versions of wine arent on that server...
[01:34] <Stricklin> Then, I get the error: "Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package wine has no installation candidate"
[01:34] <topyli> Stricklin: maybe they don't have a release.gpg file there. apt doesn't regard it an error and ignores it
[01:35] <chuck_gr> what is the latest available version of wone?
[01:35] <chuck_gr> wine even
[01:35] <topyli> Stricklin: missing packages on the other hand, seem to count as errors :)
[01:35] <Stricklin> hmmm
[01:36] <topyli> wine XP
[01:36] <mahangu> e
[01:36] <aftertaf> !info cowsay
[01:36] <ubotu> cowsay: (A configurable talking cow), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 3.03-6 (hoary), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 268 kB
[01:37] <mahangu> aftertaf, it's cool ill find it later
[01:37] <mahangu> i gotta go study now
[01:37] <Stricklin> I'm able to build it from source
[01:38] <Stricklin> So, I guess that's what I'll do... while I'm at work :)
[01:39] <brownie17> !grub
[01:39] <ubotu> somebody said grub was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:39] <aftertaf> lol
[01:39] <Dreamglider> is amaroK any good ?
[01:40] <brownie17> Dreamglider, it is all reall preference
[01:40] <topyli> Dreamglider: i've heard about people who use it
[01:40] <topyli> so i guess
[01:41] <Dreamglider> how can i enable mp3 support ?
[01:41] <topyli> Dreamglider: in kde i don't know. in gnome, install gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:42] <Seveas> !mp3
[01:42] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[01:42] <eythian> Dreamglider, I found amaroK to be awesome.
[01:43] <eythian> although now I'm using Rhythmbox, because I'm trying out the Gnome thing.
[01:44] <Seveas> hmm, let's get another bot in here and let them battle each other :)
[01:45] <topyli> yeah, a question bot
[01:45] <brownie17> how do i change the order of the options in Grub?
[01:46] <chuck_gr> edit the grub config file
[01:46] <topyli> brownie17: you could change their order in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:46] <topyli> by editing very carefully and making a backup
[01:47] <thux> Hi, just noticed that I have tmpfs twice in breezy when I do df -h?
[01:47] <topyli> thux: so do i
[01:47] <thux> never seen that before in linux
[01:48] <chuck_gr> i dont
[01:48] <topyli> thux: seems to be mounted on a device, plus a module. news to me
[01:48] <thux> topyli: ok
[01:49] <topyli> thux: /dev/shm doesn't seem to require very much though :)
[01:49] <pawel> has anyone come across a problem when rhythmbox doesn't want to open playlist files while accessing them from other applications (e.g firefox)
[01:50] <topyli> pawel: do you mean net radio streams and such, or what sort of files?
[01:50] <pawel> topyli: yeah.
[01:51] <topyli> some time ago, i had totem and rb fighting over them and they were left unopened. i never solved it
[01:51] <topyli> except by explicitly opening rb and pasting the URL to it
[01:52] <pawel> topyli: when a .pls file is associated with rhythmbox, the player starts, but doesn't load the playlist.
[01:52] <topyli> pawel: yes, i heard it was totem's fault. are you using hoary?
[01:52] <kbrooks> wtf is dbus
[01:53] <pawel> topyli: no, breezy.
[01:53] <topyli> pawel: strange. let me see, i thought i never had this problem on breezy. i'll check
[01:54] <pawel> and it seems like it's not a firefox fault, I doesn't even work when I drag'n'drop a file to rhythmbox.
[01:54] <pawel> a file, I mean a playlist file, didn't check a regualar mp3 file.
[01:55] <bimberi> kbrooks: http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/dbus
[01:56] <pawel> I can go for bmp or xmms, but it's not the point, I really like rhythbox and have been using it for ages.
[01:57] <topyli> pawel: copy a link from somafm.com, open rb, choose "new station", and paste. works for me
[01:57] <robertj> where can I find a complete list of all boot paramaters on the Breezy Live CD?
[01:59] <pawel> topyli: yeah, but why don't you try to associate the playlist with rb and let firefox open rb on its onw
[01:59] <pawel> topyli: this doesn't work.
[01:59] <topyli> pawel: no it doesn't
[02:00] <topyli> bugzilla time i guess. btw i used epiphany but i don't think it makes a difference here
[02:00] <pawel> it's stupid, it should. It used to work like this in Slackware, Fedora or even from scratch.
[02:01] <ksmurf> I have added a script called powernowd to /etc/modprobe.d but it didn't load...... how do I update startup so it will?
[02:01] <pawel> topyli: I'm just going to build rhythmbox from scratch and see if it's rhythbox fault
[02:02] <bob2> ksmurf: you mean /etc/ini.td?
[02:02] <topyli> pawel: the bug could be somewhere in gnome mime-fu depths of weirdness as well
[02:02] <ksmurf> yes bob2
[02:03] <bob2> ksmurf: you know powernowd is already in ubuntu, right?
[02:03] <Mic_hael> writing a French text with accents and everything is horrible with my keyboard layout problem... I have to use the Character map tool! If anyone would be so kind to look at the details of this problem (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70926), that would be great...
[02:04] <Mic_hael> (and yes, writing a French text is horrible even without this problem...)
[02:04] <aftertaf> Mic_hael:  what is the problme?
[02:05] <thenuke> Mic_hael: blah, just skip the accents :)
[02:05] <ksmurf> what I need is to be able to have p4-clockmod loaded b4 powernowd starts
[02:06] <anivair> morning?
[02:06] <thoreauputic> thenuke: French without accents is like a woman without kisses! *grin*
[02:06] <anivair> excellent
[02:06] <Shin_Gouki> LOL
[02:06] <Mic_hael> well, with 5.04 I could use dead keys for accents
[02:06] <Shin_Gouki> funny... ;)
[02:06] <Mic_hael> I have a inspiron 5100 with a us qwerty keyboard
[02:06] <Mic_hael> since I upgraded to breezy, no more dead keys
[02:06] <aftertaf> ahh oki
[02:06] <Mic_hael> and I can't find how to change it
[02:07] <aftertaf> ksmurf:  use webmin to change order at boot.
[02:08] <ksmurf> aftertaf webmin?  but right now p4-clockmod is not even getting loaded
[02:08] <ksmurf> until I do it manually?
[02:09] <pawel> topyli: how can I see/edit mime types in gnome? I tried to change by clicking on a playlist file, but it doesn't allow me to remove current entries, I can add new, but not remove/see rhythbox and totem settings.
[02:09] <aftertaf> use update-rc.d ksmurf to add it
[02:10] <Shin_Gouki> hi anyone idea for a programm to view svg files under ubuntu?
[02:10] <topyli> pawel: no idea, i'll try and look around in gconf-editor
[02:12] <ksmurf> aftertaf so I would type sudo modprobe p4-clockmod and then update.rc.d?
[02:13] <tenshiKur0> hey, all .. wondering if someone can help with something...
[02:13] <tenshiKur0> try to revert to a clean install of apache2
[02:14] <aftertaf> nope.... ksmurf sudo update-rc.d ..... adds a script in /etc/init.d to the start sequence. look in /etc/init.d see if no script for p-clockmod
[02:14] <tenshiKur0> had it working fine previously, made some adjustsment (wasn't broken, tried to fix it)... and now, it's not listening on 80... or it appears as though something else, which doesn't make sense, as i know there's nothing else installed and set to
[02:15] <aftertaf> ksmurf:  man update-rc.d ...... is quite well written
[02:16] <pawel>  i've created an account on bugzilla but it didn't send me my password yet. :/
[02:16] <ksmurf> k thanks
[02:17] <aftertaf> but if you get stuck, ask ;)      the -n switch modifies nothing, just shows you what it would have done...
[02:19] <pawel> topyli: did you find anything?
[02:19] <irvin> what cd/dvd burning app is available for ubuntu using gnome?
[02:20] <topyli> pawel: there are similar bugs. however, the best i've found so far talks about pls files not working at all (not the case with us), and m3u files working ok
[02:21] <bimberi> irvin: nautilus (the file manager) can do data cds/dvds, otherwise there's gnomebaker and graveman
[02:21] <eythian> irvin, if you pop a blank CD in, it should pop straight up with a burning program. Doesn't work so good for DVDs tho, I found.
[02:21] <Mic_hael> Here's more information about that keyboard problem I have... http://users.skynet.be/fb375180/Screenshot.png Note how it says I have 101 keys (I only have 85 or so) and that I can't add a new layout!
[02:21] <irvin> thanks bimberi. eythian
[02:22] <bimberi> irvin: yw :)
[02:22] <siimo> will gnome 2.12.1 make it into breezy ? later as an update or something
[02:22] <irvin> siimo, yes
[02:22] <irvin> it's already in breezy
[02:22] <siimo> cool
[02:23] <tiefox> anyone has any experience using banshee to send songs to an Ipod shuffle ?
[02:23] <topyli> pawel: ah. #14517, "opening a .pls will not result in rb playing the stream"
[02:23] <kikinovak> Hi. My Ubuntu install went A-OK. Near to perfect. One thing puzzles me. I have no sound. lsmod shows ens_1371 OK. Setting in alsamixer seem ok too. Do things work differently under ubuntu? My user is even in the 'audio' group, so it can't be that...
[02:23] <kikinovak> BTW I have Kubuntu, not Ubuntu.
[02:23] <topyli> pawel: marked as an upstream bug, so you won't win by building rb yourself either
[02:23] <eythian> kikinovak, volume up? Make sure it's not muted.
[02:24] <kikinovak> eythian: in alsamixer?
[02:24] <pawel> topyli: yeah, I found it, #14517.
[02:24] <eythian> kikinovak, yeah
[02:24] <kikinovak> sec
[02:25] <rjordan> tenshiKur0, so you're not listening on port 80? Are you sure apache is running?
[02:25] <pawel> topyli: wait, xmms and bmp pick the playlists properly.
[02:26] <topyli> pawel: totem too. i want rhythmbox! :)
[02:26] <eythian> topyli, code up a patch :)
[02:26] <pawel> this sucks!
[02:26] <pawel> ;)
[02:26] <pawel> s/i want/we want/
[02:26] <pawel> !
[02:26] <pawel> ;>
[02:26] <ubotu> pawel: I give up, what is it?
[02:27] <topyli> eythian: might as well add stream support to muine too, while i'm at it :)
[02:27] <DanglyBits> how can i get the 32 bit versions of mozilla-firefox and flash to work together in breezy 64?
[02:27] <Kris_k> lmao the AI in HL2 on cedega is speeded up just a bit ?
[02:27] <eythian> topyli, sounds like a plan!
[02:28] <pawel> topyli: this muine wants mono. :/
[02:29] <DanglyBits> anyone....how can i get the 32 bit versions of mozilla-firefox and flash to work together in breezy 64?
[02:29] <topyli> pawel: that's all right, i'm using beagle and tomboy anyway
[02:30] <atripathi> does usage of HT feature of Intel depend on the OS ?
[02:31] <eythian> atripathi, I think it kinda does. I think the OS has to be HT aware (or maybe it just has to treat it like SMP)
[02:31] <rjordan> atripathi, eythian, AFAIK it's an SMP thing.
[02:32] <pawel> topyli: with muine it still doesn't work. :>
[02:32] <topyli> pawel: the stream? muine doesn't support streams at all
[02:33] <topyli> pawel: if it did, it would be a killer
[02:33] <curious101> hi again
[02:33] <topyli> pawel: but the author doesn't want to support it
[02:33] <goh> Helloo
[02:33] <curious101> is there a GUI dialer for GNOME?
[02:34] <BockBilbo> hello again
[02:34] <monstah> hello.. :) i can't get higher resolution than 1024x768 on my screen... how do i fix this? =)
[02:34] <goh> Gnome ppp
[02:34] <pawel> topyli: sad. :/
[02:34] <aftertaf> monstah:  edit your xorg.conf file
[02:34] <monstah> aftertaf: where can i find that one?
[02:34] <monstah> i'm new to this :)
[02:34] <curious101> i'm having a hard time using that "pon" command
[02:34] <JackTorrence> Is there a stable release of Breezy yet or is Hoary still the stable vers?
[02:34] <aftertaf> /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[02:35] <Ng> JackTorrence: the stable release of breezy is scheduled for the 13th
[02:35] <aftertaf> monstah:  ^^^ edit it with sudo to gve you rights.....
[02:35] <BockBilbo> sound-juicer crashes when i try to open the option dialog on it when logged as usual user (works as root). I think it has something to do with the config files of it. i get a bounch of errors of this kind:  (sound-juicer:12618): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_file_system_get_volume_for_path: assertion `path != NULL' failed
[02:35] <aftertaf> !X
[02:35] <ubotu> aftertaf: What?
[02:35] <JackTorrence> 13th Oct?
[02:35] <aftertaf> !x
[02:35] <ubotu> aftertaf: Syntax error in line 1
[02:35] <Ng> JackTorrence: yes
[02:35] <BockBilbo> like some null values that should be there...
[02:35] <curious101> is gnome ppp like kppp?
[02:35] <samu2> Anyone else have trouble with firefox crashing sometimes when you open links that need to be downloaded or opened in an external program?
[02:36] <topyli> pawel: banshee doesn't either, otherwise it's another piece of great mono code. like a rhythmbox that handles cd's, ipods, ripping, burning...
[02:36] <monstah> aftertaf: yeh =) thnx
[02:36] <atripathi> aftertaf.........see this is the solution. modify xorg.conf  to this.......
[02:36] <atripathi> Section "Monitor"
[02:36] <atripathi>         Identifier      "PHILIPS 107E"
[02:36] <atripathi>         Option          "DPMS"
[02:36] <atripathi>         HorizSync       30-71
[02:36] <atripathi>         VertRefresh     50-160
[02:36] <atripathi> EndSection
[02:36] <aftertaf> monstah:  sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   (make a backup first)
[02:36] <atripathi> the Identifier is set by default so dont edit that
[02:36] <goh> curious101: I'm not sure
[02:36] <JackTorrence> samu2, yup I have that prob with firefox
[02:36] <atripathi> yeah and do make a backup
[02:37] <samu2> JackTorrence, are you running breezy yet?
[02:37] <JackTorrence> samu2, nope Hoary
[02:37] <goh> curious101: for me I connect by gg system>>adiministration>>networking
[02:37] <JackTorrence> aftertaf, you having prob with display?
[02:37] <samu2> JackTorrence, ah me too. Maybe we'll be saved in a week then.
[02:38] <curious101> @goh: is that the one with the activate thing?
[02:38] <Gwildor_> Shin_Gouki, hello?
[02:38] <eythian> goh, there is a 'modem monitor' panel applet, which is probably more convenient than the menus.
[02:38] <monstah> aftertaf: should i just change the "Modeline" ?
[02:38] <atripathi> also to know your monitor's strength execute this..     sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[02:38] <goh> curious101: that's what I use
[02:38] <goh> eythian: where's the applet?
[02:39] <curious101> @goh: where's the CONNECT button there?
[02:39] <eythian> right-click on the panel at the top, go to 'add to panel', scroll down to modem monitor
[02:39] <no-one-rus> i have problems with my usb irda
[02:39] <no-one-rus> can anybody help me
[02:40] <atripathi> which  is the best tool  for using pppoe efficiently ?
[02:40] <atripathi> everytime i need to plog to see the status
[02:40] <pawel> topyli: ok, I've got bmp and I'll be watching that bug.
[02:40] <goh> curioys101: It's "activate" button
[02:40] <atripathi> and manually ping to check if the connection is on
[02:40] <pawel> topyli: I'm unable to fix, but will switch back, once it's done.
[02:41] <aftertaf> atripathi:  rp-pppoe i found better that pppoe, pppoe seems a bit broken when setting up dsl-provider file
[02:41] <curious101> @goh: yeah, but after activating, what do you do next to connect?
[02:41] <paulproteus|lapt> aftertaf: How do you pick which you use, pppoe vs. rp-pppoe?
[02:41] <atripathi> aftertaf...I use ppoeconf to setup my pppoe. Then issue pon dsl-provider command to activate it
[02:42] <atripathi> i installed pppoe separately which is a package in synaptic but it clashed with the configuration and didnt find a few lines compatible
[02:42] <goh> eythian: It caused some problems when the connection was broken off, so I stop using it
[02:42] <no-one-rus> what i must do to make my irda active
[02:42] <atripathi> i uninstalled it and still using pppoeconf  and pon dsl-provider etc
[02:43] <aftertaf> paulproteus|lapt:  i got the .deb from their website for rp-pppoe....
[02:43] <eythian> goh: OK. I don't use a modem, so never tested it.
[02:43] <curious101> can you post a sample of the results of "pon"?
[02:43] <kikinovak> eythian: I looked around a bit, and found the problem. ALSA is apparently configured for my onboard card. Now is there some way to manually configure ALSA (with Slackware this was feasible with 'alsaconf'), so I can select the correct card?
[02:43] <no-one-rus> Help me
[02:43] <no-one-rus> ANY RUS???
[02:43] <aftertaf> monstah:  i dont actually know for that, im sorry..... google for resolution Xorg stuff and you'll find what you need to put in there...
[02:43] <topyli> pawel: yes, lacking a fix, we use workarounds :(
[02:43] <aftertaf> !ru
[02:43] <ubotu> aftertaf: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[02:43] <eythian> kikinovak, hah, I had exactly the same problem. My solution was to turn off the on-board card.
[02:43] <DanglyBits> anyone....how can i get the 32 bit versions of mozilla-firefox and flash to work together in breezy 64?
[02:44] <epic___> kikinovak, have you tried turning the onboard card off in the BIOS?
[02:44] <goh> curious101: U can't tell. U need to right click on panel, add panel and add network nonitor
[02:44] <kikinovak> eythian: er... how would I do that? (I'm a Slackware veteran, where _everything_ had to be worked out by hand... now this automatic stuff confuses me a bit:oD)
[02:45] <intelikey> k  anyone know where apt keeps its information on cd drives (mount point in particular) ?
[02:45] <curious101> ok, thanks goh
[02:45] <eythian> kikinovak, I turned it off in the BIOS. I'd like to be able to have it on tho, I use the onboard for VoiP and the PCI for music.
[02:45] <kikinovak> intelikey: yeah... in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:45] <intelikey> kikinovak nope not there.
[02:45] <eythian> When I used Debian I had to manually switch them around each boot.
[02:45] <kikinovak> intelikey: apt-cdrom add?
[02:45] <curious101> i'm downloading gnome-ppp and gnome-dial to see if they fit my needs
[02:45] <nadroj> is there a way to enable window shadowing in ubuntu?
[02:46] <intelikey> done tried that too kikinovak
[02:46] <goh> How do I set sypnatic such that it will look 4 my Hoary cd in my cdrw instead of my cdrom?
[02:46] <kikinovak> eythian: and no way to configure alsa manually?
[02:46] <kikinovak> eythian: I'll check that out _now_ ... see ya
[02:46] <intelikey> it adds the disk just fine and then tries the old mount point kikinovak
[02:46] <eythian> kikinovak, in Debian there was alsaconf, I don't know if that's in Ubuntu or not
[02:46] <anivair> goh: you can always just temporarily alias cdrom
[02:47] <kikinovak> intelikey: sec
[02:47] <goh> anivair: Hmmm... how do i do that?
[02:47] <intelikey> eythian yes alsaconf is ub standard also
[02:47] <kikinovak> intelikey: you're right... it's not in sources.list
[02:47] <intelikey> i know.
[02:47] <Kris_k> lmao the AI in HL2 on cedega is speeded up just a bit ? Also when coming out of hl2 the res on my desktop is messed
[02:47] <anivair> goh: well, i'd copy cdrom to cdrom_backup and then make cdrom a symbolic link to cdrw (assuming that cdrw exists)
[02:48] <curious101> gnome-ppp is like kppp
[02:48] <misieq> hi there!
[02:49] <curious101> is it safe to mount my ntfs partitions and have write access from Ubuntu?
[02:49] <misieq> how do i do mouse right click on mac running ubuntu live??
[02:49] <no-one-rus> Help me with irda
[02:49] <no-one-rus> !!!
[02:49] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[02:49] <Hobbsee> !irda
[02:49] <Skid> !irda
[02:49] <ubotu> Hobbsee: What?
[02:49] <Skid> heh
[02:49] <Hobbsee> lol
[02:49] <no-one-rus> !irda
[02:50] <no-one-rus> ;;;;;
[02:50] <Skid> !infrared
[02:50] <ubotu> Skid: Bugger all, i dunno
[02:50] <Skid> !infra red
[02:50] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Skid
[02:50] <Skid> hm
[02:50] <Skid> !google
[02:50] <ubotu> Not a clue, Skid
[02:50] <Skid> heh
[02:50] <Seveas> curious101, no
[02:50] <Seveas> it's not even possible
[02:50] <Skid> I thought beta writing was in 2.6 ?
[02:50] <Skid> (obv if you want to destroy your ntfs partition)
[02:51] <Seveas> you can overwrite an existing file with sometghin gof the exact same length
[02:51] <Seveas> in other words: useless
[02:51] <curious101> oh, so ubuntu guide tells us to mount but with read only access?
[02:51] <Chousuke> yes.
[02:51] <Seveas> ubuntuguide sucks
[02:51] <Chousuke> you could use the captive drivers.
[02:51] <Seveas> !tell curious101 about ubuntuguide
[02:52] <Seveas> !tell Chousuke about captive
[02:52] <Chousuke> but they're non-free, non-native and in general not really recommended.
[02:52] <nadroj> is there a way to enable window shadowing in ubuntu?
[02:52] <Skid> mmm can you do tell me ?
[02:52] <curious101> !faq
[02:52] <ubotu> it has been said that faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[02:52] <no-one-rus> irda..................
[02:52] <Skid> !tell me about ubuntuguide
[02:52] <Skid> ooh cool
[02:52] <Skid> :)
[02:52] <no-one-rus> !fuk
[02:52] <ubotu> I don't know, no-one-rus
[02:52] <curious101> hehehe, thanks all
[02:52] <[LethAL] > !tell nadroj about composite
[02:53] <no-one-rus> !tell me about irda
[02:53] <misieq> how do i do mouse right click on mac running ubuntu live??
[02:53] <no-one-rus> stupid
[02:53] <Skid> hmm !faq in PM to the bot, doesn't work?
[02:53] <Seveas> no-one-rus, language...
[02:53] <no-one-rus> rus
[02:53] <Seveas> Skid, in pm you don't need the !
[02:53] <intelikey> sorry, i got bumped off line.
[02:53] <Skid> ahh, ok cheers
[02:53] <Skid> right time for a malteaser smoothie :p
[02:53] <nadroj> thanks LethAL
[02:53] <[LethAL] > np
[02:54] <no-one-rus> kill me by irda
[02:54] <no-one-rus> !kill me by irda
[02:54] <ubotu> no-one-rus: Are you on ritalin?
[02:54] <[LethAL] > LOL
[02:54] <intelikey> did anyone find a way to change cd mount points ?      or is it hard coded into apt as /cdrom ???
[02:54] <Seveas> no-one-rus, if you don't stop playing with the bot you will be banned
[02:55] <Seveas> intelikey, /etc/fstab
[02:55] <no-one-rus> so tell me about irda in ubuntu
[02:55] <no-one-rus> plz
[02:55] <intelikey> Seveas yes....   duh   but apt still looks in /cdrom
[02:55] <FlangeR> Q: What do the ubuntu community consider the best password manager at the moment?
[02:55] <Ng> a brain ;)
[02:56] <[LethAL] > intelikey, make /cdrom a symlink
[02:56] <Seveas> FlangeR, revelation
[02:56] <Seveas> intelikey, which apt command?
[02:56] <epic___> goh,   have you tried to add the cd in the dvd drive through symantec?
[02:56] <no-one-rus>
[02:56] <intelikey> Seveas apt-setup    apt-get .....
[02:57] <eythian> no-one-rus, I don't think many people know about irda...I haven't used it for a while myself.
[02:57] <Seveas> man apt.conf has some info...
[02:58] <brosio> anyone known a guide to set up cups on ubuntu ?
[02:58] <w-mute> Hi, folks. Anybody else experiencing problems with the font in gnucash?
[02:58] <Seveas> brosio, system -> admin -> printing
[02:59] <intelikey> Seveas ok.    i'll give that a look.    can't do it from here though.    thanks.
[03:00] <Skid> hm this edubuntu - be good for a net cafe?
[03:00] <Skid> i seem to remember some chap askin aobut it a few days ago
[03:00] <Seveas> Skid, /join #edubutu
[03:00] <Seveas> they can give much better info
[03:01] <Seveas> #edubuntu i mean
[03:01] <Skid> ah, wasn't for me - just to refer to him when (if) he comes back in :)
[03:01] <Seveas> well, refer him to #edubuntu then ;)
[03:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> does anyone know which package the 'lockfile' program is in? i cant find it on one of my boxes
[03:03] <Hendric> any suggestions for installing ubuntu on a DELL Optiplex GX1... with 13GB HD, and stalls during partitioner.
[03:04] <rjordan> Kamping_Kaiser, I googled and found that it's in the base dist AFAICT
[03:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. ok. thanks
[03:04] <pawel> brb
[03:06] <[LethAL] > ubotu, no, explore2fs is to get read/write access to your Linux ext2/3 partitions from windows, see http://www.fs-driver.org/
[03:06] <ubotu> [LethAL] : okay
[03:07] <g14> Does anyone know how well abiword supports MS Office exporting?
[03:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> iirc not well
[03:07] <g14> I have my little sister running hoary and she loves it. However, OO.o is a beast to startup on her slow machine and she doesn't like it.
[03:09] <elvstone> short question: breezy == 5.10?
[03:09] <Hobbsee> elvstone: yes
[03:09] <mvirkkil> elvstone: yes
[03:09] <elvstone> sweet.
[03:09] <elvstone> thx.
[03:09] <eythian> hmm. There's an annoying UI bug in gnome.
[03:09] <Amaranth> release in 7 days, hopefully
[03:09] <Amaranth> eythian: what's what?
[03:09] <Hobbsee> g14: the late betas and the RC of open office 2 are considerably faster than the originals
[03:10] <g14> Hobbsee: I am using the latest from www.openoffice.org
[03:10] <elvstone> nice, i'm starting up a book shop and ordered 20 CDs to have there for people to take. i'll be opening the shop on 15 November.
[03:10] <eythian> On the panel at the top, you can have the mouse hard against the top and acess the menus and buttons fine, but not the system tray icons. They have a 1px border.
[03:10] <Hobbsee> g14: ah ok, i didnt think it took that long to open OOo 2
[03:11] <mvirkkil> eythian: Works for me
[03:11] <aftertaf> g14:  there is KWord too, not bad
[03:11] <[LethAL] > eythian, so they do...
[03:11] <g14> heh, gnome only
[03:11] <Amaranth> eythian: it "snatches defeat from the jaws of victory"
[03:11] <eythian> it's like having 90% of Fitt's law :)
[03:11] <eythian> yeah
[03:11] <g14> I script everything using gconf
[03:11] <mvirkkil> eythian: No wait it doesn't. Yeah, I'd say it's a bug.
[03:12] <eythian> OK. What would I file it against?
[03:12] <eythian> gnome-panel?
[03:12] <dravine> hello everyone
[03:12] <dravine> is there an up to date list of the ubuntu repositories?
[03:13] <Seveas> !repos
[03:13] <ubotu> I guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:13] <dravine> the hoary-extras seems to have vanished on me
[03:13] <Seveas> ah crap
[03:13] <Seveas> !sources
[03:13] <ubotu> sources is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[03:13] <Hobbsee> they've changed
[03:13] <dravine> I know
[03:13] <dravine> they've done so 2 or 3 times in the last month
[03:13] <Skid> how do you actually become a mirror?
[03:13] <Amaranth> i think hoary-extras is gone
[03:13] <Seveas> !no repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[03:13] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[03:13] <Seveas> Amaranth, really>
[03:14] <Seveas> i though it was just the unofficial backports
[03:14] <Hobbsee> hoary-extras still worked, as of this afternoon - wasnt coming up with a 404 error
[03:14] <Amaranth> the unofficial backports is gone, i doubt anyone wants to mirror just the illegal stuff
[03:14] <Hobbsee> ie a few hours ago
[03:14] <dravine> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-extras/
[03:14] <Seveas> Amaranth, the -extras has more than just the illegal stuff
[03:14] <dravine> that's the url I had before for the extras
[03:15] <Seveas> dravine, that has NEVER been the url for hoary-extras
[03:15] <dravine> was it at mirrormax before?
[03:15] <Skid> illegal stuff? :o
[03:17] <asbjxrn> What packages do I need to get a working gcc installation?
[03:17] <eythian> !be
[03:17] <ubotu> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:17] <dravine> build-essential
[03:17] <Skid> build-essential has all what you'd need
[03:17] <asbjxrn> thanks.
[03:18] <eythian> *sigh* reportbug has a bug.
[03:18] <dravine> what's the debian-marillat repos have in it?
[03:19] <kikinovak> eythian: you still there?
[03:19] <kikinovak> eythian: you still there?
[03:19] <eythian> kikinovak, yeah
[03:19] <kikinovak> eythian: I fiddled around a bit, and I have an idea for the two soundcards...
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> any idea where to look on a server for these lines (3 line flood)
[03:20] <eythian> oh?
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> # RSYNC_DIR is the directory given in the "Packages over rsync:" line of
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> # the mirrors file for the site you have chosen to mirror.
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> # (mandatory)
[03:20] <kikinovak> eythian: the idea is write a rule for UDEV so the correct soundcard gets the first device name
[03:20] <eythian> ah.
[03:20] <eythian> kikinovak, let me know if you figure out the rule :) udev is still black magic to me
[03:20] <kikinovak> eythian: only I don't know what device nodes are for soundcard...
[03:20] <kikinovak> eythian: well I know udev well
[03:21] <kikinovak> eythian: a look in /dev, there is dsp and dsp1
[03:21] <kikinovak> eythian: and then we have several nodes in /dev/snd
[03:21] <kikinovak> eythian: which one is the right one?
[03:22] <kikinovak> eythian: what I want to say: which node is supposed to be the default sound device here?
[03:22] <kikinovak> eythian: back in 1 min
[03:22] <eythian> hmm. Tricky.
[03:23] <eythian> I think you'd have to experiment to work it out.
[03:23] <eythian> or look in  /proc/asound/cards, that might help
[03:23] <Frafra> hi all
[03:23] <Frafra> i must convert a ogg into a mp3 on breezy for amd64
[03:23] <Frafra> who can help me?
[03:23] <imc_> Hey, under breezy, which repository do I need for sun-j2re1.5?
[03:24] <eythian> Frafra, why would you do that?
[03:25] <Frafra> eythian: i must put the file on my... I don't know the english for it, but it's something likes ipod
[03:25] <kikinovak> eythian: stay around... I look for the solution and I'll let you know when something comes up
[03:25] <eythian> Frafra, ahh, OK.
[03:25] <imc_> Hey, under breezy, which repository do I need for sun-j2re1.5?
[03:26] <eythian> kikinovak, I'm going to bed soon. If I remember, I'll ask when I next see you online.
[03:26] <ccooke> imc: It's not in any due to license restrictions, but it is installable
[03:26] <imc_> um...
[03:26] <[LethAL] > !tell imc_ about javadeb
[03:26] <[LethAL] > :-)
[03:27] <ccooke> [LethAL] : damn, beat me to it :-)
[03:27] <Frafra> who can telp me?
[03:27] <imc_> Thanks LethAL and ccooke; former for doing it and latter for thinking of it :)
[03:27] <[LethAL] > Hehe
[03:27] <[LethAL] > Frafra, at least one of us will
[03:27] <Myrtti> let me dish out my crystal ball
[03:28] <asbjxrn> Has anyone compiled openmotif or know where I can get a precompiled package for it?
[03:29] <Frafra> mm... shoul I compile lame for amd64?
[03:29] <ccooke> Frafra: simplest way is probably to install lame (which is an mp3 encoder)
[03:29] <ccooke> Frafra: lame is installable via apt
[03:29] <Frafra> ccooke: apt-get doesn't found it
[03:29] <eythian> Frafra, you could look at mp32ogg, see how it works and reverse the logic.
[03:29] <ccooke> Frafra: do you have the universe and multiverse repositories?
[03:29] <Frafra> ccooke: yes
[03:30] <ccooke> Frafra: lame is in multiverse.
[03:30] <Frafra> ah, thanks
[03:30] <eythian> ok, bedtime
[03:30] <Frafra> i haven't multiverse, only universe :)
[03:31] <nrbq> howdy
[03:31] <Frafra> !extrarepository
[03:31] <nrbq> Does anyone here use sweep? (successfully)
[03:31] <ubotu> Frafra: Bugger all, i dunno
[03:31] <ccooke> Frafra: okay. do an apt-get update
[03:31] <Frafra> !multiverse
[03:31] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[03:31] <Frafra> !repositories
[03:31] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[03:31] <Frafra> thanks a lot
[03:31] <nrbq> Or does anyone use Ardour?
[03:32] <ccooke> Frafra: you'll have oggdec installed.
[03:32] <occy> Seveas, wtf?
[03:33] <occy> Seveas, a simple message would do you don't have to kick people out of the channel.  Play nice.
[03:33] <kikinovak> Question for all the cracks here. I have two sound cards here, one onboard, one PCI, respectively card0 and card1 in /proc/asound/cards. Big question: how do I find out which sound device each one is corresponding to?
[03:33] <nrbq> Can anyone suggest why Audacity works fine, but Sweep just produces a hiss?
[03:33] <occy> Seveas, I didn't add "spam"  I added some tips and tricks.
[03:34] <kikinovak> nrbq because sweep works with oss by default, AFAIK
[03:34] <kikinovak> nrbq: compiled it on my slack, and it gave me a hard time until I grasped OSS is default.
[03:35] <kikinovak> nrbq: check out the cvs version... gtk2 ... nice!
[03:37] <Frafra> can I compile a program for windows from breezy for amd64?
[03:38] <[LethAL] > !info mingw32
[03:38] <ubotu> mingw32: (Minimalist GNU win32 (cross) compiler), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: <IP_ADDRESS>40916.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 9925 kB, Installed size: 43536 kB
[03:38] <[LethAL] > Frafra, ^^
[03:38] <Frafra> thanks :)
[03:38] <nrbq> kikinovak, I honestly don't understand what that means. Is oss an audio driver?
[03:38] <[LethAL] > Frafra, I've never used it though
[03:39] <nrbq> I just noticed that both claim to be using /dev/dsp, but one works and the other doesn't
[03:39] <Zeke1> hi, every tiem i restart ubuntu i have to manually set my eth1 to up and reset pppoeconf...how do i get it to do it automatically? can anyone help me?
[03:39] <Seveas> occy, you added a link to your personal site. That is spam
[03:40] <monstah> howto install fonts without having to do "xset +fp dir/" everytime you want to use them?
[03:41] <occy> Seveas, I've never done anything in the past, I don't have a history, I simply did not know.  A warning would have sufficed.
[03:42] <Seveas> occy, this was a warning...
[03:42] <occy> Seveas, I won't use the bot again you can be asured of that.
[03:42] <occy> Seveas, Someone else told me I could play with it in #debian-bots  I guess that person was wrong.
[03:42] <occy> Seveas, thanks for the kind and  helpful attitude.
[03:42] <Seveas> you can use/play with it, but adding spam is something you should not do
[03:43] <Seveas> just as your attitude now
[03:43] <occy> Seveas, adding tips and tricks I didn't know was spam.
[03:43] <occy> Seveas, Yes, I'm kinda pissed
[03:43] <occy> You don't kick people for that.
[03:43] <occy> I wasn't abusive in the channel, I went where I was supposed to.
[03:43] <Seveas> yes, spammers are kicked
[03:43] <occy> I didn't spam the channel.
[03:43] <aftertaf> talk via keyboard leads to getting worked up too much over something better let go.
[03:43] <Seveas> spamminf the bot is just as bad
[03:43] <occy> anyway, this subject is OT
[03:44] <aftertaf> if you want to continue, go offtopic.....
[03:44] <occy> Seveas, get off your high horse
[03:44] <Seveas> stop attacking people personally..
[03:44] <Myrtti> how about you two move to /msg?
[03:45] <nrbq> kikinovak, can you give me more advice on oss? I don't understand what that is - is that an audio driver?
[03:45] <nalioth> monstah: drop any ttf font you like into your ~/.fonts directory (you may have to create it)
[03:48] <sambagirl> test'
[03:48] <g14> OSS == Open Sound System. It is a deprecated sound system  succeeded by ALSA
[03:49] <g14> Alsa was developed by SUSE and is now in the kernel
[03:49] <Frafra> i've installed lame
[03:49] <Frafra> when i play the .mp3 file
[03:50] <Frafra> i heard only some rumors, for 2 second (the .ogg file is 10 sec.)
[03:50] <anivair> for the record, I prefer OSS to ALSA.  Much less trouble
[03:50] <nalioth> sambagirl: bonita
[03:51] <g14> technically, alsa is superior. oss still has it's place as also doesn't do multiple outputs very well. That is why a sound daemon like esd or arts is needed unfortunately
[03:51] <nrbq> is anyone able to advise on how I can get Sweep working?
[03:51] <nrbq> Audacity plays fine from /dev/dsp, but Sweep just produces a hiss
[03:51] <Frafra> good, lame don't convert from ogg, but from wav :D
[03:52] <anivair> technically, you're right.  but in practice ALSA never works right on my ubuntu system and OSS does.
[03:52] <anivair> or at least that's the case with xmms
[03:52] <nrbq> anivair, what can you tell me about oss? Is that a sound driver?
[03:52] <g14> Thats because xmms is old. Use beep-media-player, much much better
[03:52] <bloodnik> Is missing graphics in breezy a known?
[03:53] <g14> the lead dev of bmp tried to port xmms to gtk2 and the xmms devs refused
[03:53] <anivair> beep is fine, but doesn't play well with streamtuner, which is one of my favorite apps ever
[03:53] <Seveas> bloodnik, graphics of what?
[03:53] <g14> Kind of like xfree86 vs x.org. the x.org authors refused innovation so the project forked into a much better
[03:53] <bloodnik> My show desktop and wastebasket graphics are red-x things
[03:54] <anivair> nrbq: oss is not a driver, it's a service.  it's what makes sound go in older linux systems (and has, as stated, been replaced by ALSA, though we are currently debating the goodness of alsa in a fanboyish way)
[03:54] <g14> bloodnik: What theme are you using?
[03:54] <topyli> nrbq: oss is the open sound system, used to be standard on linuxen, but is now in the process of being obsoleted by alsa
[03:54] <anivair> huh . . . I guess he didn't want to hear my answer
[03:54] <topyli> hrmpf
[03:54] <bloodnik> g14: One that worked before I upgraded
[03:54] <anivair> some peopel are so impatient
[03:54] <anivair> and can't google
[03:54] <bloodnik> I mixed and matched theme aspects
[03:54] <Seveas> hmm, that might be due to a gnome issue I've seen before, can you post a screenshot of your system at the pastebin please
[03:55] <g14> bloodnik: you didn't answer my question :)
[03:55] <g14> bloodnik: ok, thats the problem. What icon theme is it?
[03:55] <anivair> g14: I think he means that he is using a heavily modified version of a theme, so it's basically his own
[03:55] <bloodnik> Clearlooks
[03:56] <ghb> I would like to change some behaviour of when I close the lid. I
[03:56] <g14> bloodnik: thats odd, I use clearlooks window and widget theme with redhat's bluecurve icons on my breezy box. I don't have any problems
[03:56] <bloodnik> ...
[03:56] <bloodnik> I just changed to Human and they came back, and Clearlooks vanished.
[03:57] <bloodnik> Vanished from the list _
[03:57] <g14> that really sucks
[03:57] <bloodnik> OK well it was that. Never occurred to me. Cheers
[03:57] <zeroverse> so beep media player > xmms?
[03:57] <g14> correct
[03:57] <topyli> oh no, not another kernel update
[03:57] <ghb> Hey. How do I change the behaviour of when I close the lid on my laptop? The lid.sh and libtn are empty... =(
[03:58] <g14> zeroverse:  the lead dev of beep wanted to improve xmms but the xmms devs argued with him and were not helpful. They forced him to fork
[03:58] <Seveas> zeroverse, yeah
[03:58] <g14> Plus, beep uses gtk2 so it integrates soooo much better with the rest of gnome on an ubuntu system
[03:58] <dodgyville> Hi. Does anyone know a good How-To for upgrading from hoary to breezy?
[03:58] <anivair> I wonder if I can make beep work with streamtuner . . . if so that would solve all my problems
[03:59] <topyli> g14: who dared he suggest improvements on xmms? it is the same forever and ever :)
[03:59] <bloodnik> Hmm... even Human has a missing graphic. It's the "Go to computer location" button in Nautilus
[03:59] <g14> dodgyville: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:00] <dodgyville> apt-get keeps giving me unknown error executing gpgv errors
[04:00] <g14> dodgyville: change hoary to breezy everywhere and then save it
[04:00] <Ubunti_Ki> here? :) ok
[04:00] <nalioth> Ubunti_Ki: welcome
[04:00] <g14> dodgyville: then do: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:01] <nalioth> Ubunti_Ki: remember to set up your client so you dont end up in -unregged any more
[04:01] <Ubunti_Ki> I know its a risk, but how do I allow Root to Log-in at start up Screen?
[04:01] <dodgyville> gl4: Thanks, but apt-get update gives me "unknown error executing gpgv" errors.
[04:01] <zeroverse> cool, yeah i like beep better already
[04:01] <g14> no no no. root is evil
[04:01] <Ubunti_Ki> set up my client? How nalioth?
[04:02] <topyli> Ubunti_Ki: if you want to be root, you should know how to do it .)
[04:02] <Ubunti_Ki> Anyone?
[04:02] <g14> dodgyville: something is the matter with the signature of the packages you get? Maybe you need to reinstall it
[04:02] <anivair> Ha!  I CAN make streamtuner with with beep.
[04:02] <anivair> I'll get on that right now
[04:03] <nalioth> Ubunti_Ki: i told you in -unregged
[04:03] <anivair> assuming beep will take the %q variable
[04:03] <thoreauputic> anivair: you can make streamtuner use any player actually
[04:03] <anivair> yeah, I wasn't so sure.  I just got it a while ago (weeks).  haven't played with it too much yet
[04:03] <anivair> I just listed to frensh pop music
[04:03] <thoreauputic> anivair: I use it with beep no problems
[04:03] <anivair> french, even
[04:03] <g14> dodgyville: apt-get install --reinstall gpgv
[04:03] <topyli> thoreauputic: except rhythmbox. tis b0rken :(
[04:03] <anivair> cool, thanks
[04:03] <thoreauputic> topyli: ah
[04:03] <zeroverse> so xmms skins will work with beep eh?
[04:04] <thoreauputic> zeroverse: yup
[04:04] <thoreauputic> so will winamp skins
[04:04] <thoreauputic> well, winamp 2 skins anyway
[04:05] <Ubunti_Ki> I dont know what you mean nalioth. Why should I end up in unregged if I just regged myself?
[04:06] <spiral> hi
[04:06] <Ubunti_Ki> hi
[04:06] <nalioth> Ubunti_Ki: your client can identify to services on joining the network. if you have your password in the "nickserv" field in your server dialog, it can wait too long to identify you and you'll end up in -unregged
[04:06] <Ubunti_Ki> Ok
[04:06] <Seveas> ehrm
[04:06] <Seveas> Ubunti_Ki, the *server password*, not the *nickserv password*
[04:06] <nalioth> Ubunti_Ki: do put your password in the "server password" field, and you'll always end up in here
[04:07] <voth> is it pos. to run xfce under ubuntu
[04:07] <Whistler> voth yep
[04:07] <Seveas> voth, apt-get install xfce4
[04:08] <Seveas> ehrm wrong
[04:08] <Ubunti_Ki> nalioth, i did put now my passwd in there, but theres "connect command" what should i write in there?
[04:08] <Seveas> voth, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:08] <Seveas> Ubunti_Ki, nothing :)
[04:08] <voth> ok
[04:08] <[LethAL] > We have xubuntu now? O.O
[04:08] <Ubunti_Ki> ok, so its done now? nothing more to be fixed?
[04:08] <Seveas> Ubunti_Ki, yup
[04:08] <Ubunti_Ki> thankz
[04:09] <Frafra> xubuntu?
[04:09] <holycow> what is the name of the new wireless applet in breezy? doesn't seem to be installed by default
[04:09] <nrbq> hello
[04:09] <[LethAL] > Frafra, Ubuntu with the xfce environmentment I'd assume
[04:09] <dodgyville> gl4: it won't let me reinstall, it says I need to run apt-get update first :( http://au.archive.ubuntu.com is my server, could this be the problem?
[04:09] <nrbq> can anyone help me on installing Ardour?
[04:10] <Frafra> [LethAL] : yes, but this name it's new for me :D xubuntu... lol :D
[04:10] <zeroverse> any tips on getting azureus to not take up over 400MB of memory?
[04:10] <Ubunti_Ki> I think that in 5.04 you could change  grub and allow root login in some menu, but cant find those in 5.10 . am I right?
[04:10] <[LethAL] > Frafra, new for me too
[04:10] <nrbq> apt-get says it doesn't know anything about it (although the Ardour page explicitly listed apt-get install arour)
[04:10] <nrbq> ardour, I mean
[04:10] <Seveas> Ubunti_Ki, it's in the config of gdm
[04:10] <thoreauputic> !info ardour
[04:10] <Seveas> !info ardour
[04:10] <Seveas> dang
[04:10] <Ubunti_Ki> Under?
[04:10] <Whistler> is it worth to install antivirus software?
[04:11] <thoreauputic> no such package
[04:11] <Seveas> !info ardour breezy
[04:11] <sproingie> why does ubuntu-minimal depend on jfsutils when most people don't even run jfs?
[04:11] <nrbq> Seveas, thanks, but I think it's going to be a mean one. :)
[04:11] <Ubunti_Ki> which menu Seveas?
[04:11] <Seveas> no menu
[04:11] <thoreauputic> !info ardour-gtk
[04:11] <ubotu> ardour-gtk: (digital audio workstation (graphical gtk interface)), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.9beta22-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1585 kB, Installed size: 5688 kB
[04:11] <nrbq> If I could get Sweep working I'd be at least half way to where I need to be
[04:11] <thoreauputic> :)
[04:12] <Ubunti_Ki> But there where a menu before, do you know some in 5.10?
[04:12] <nrbq> ah, so that's how it has to be referenced!
[04:12] <Seveas> if you need a menu for that, I don't believe you're a unix consultant
[04:12] <thoreauputic> nrbq: when in doubt, apt-cache search <package>
[04:13] <nrbq> thoreauputic, good tip - thanks, I'll try to remember that
[04:13] <thoreauputic> nrbq: :)
[04:13] <nrbq> thanks, thoreauputic!
[04:13] <nrbq> It's installed! :)
[04:13] <thoreauputic> nrbq: no worries :)
[04:14] <nrbq> Now, I just need to figure out how to start JACK and I'll be on my way
[04:14] <thoreauputic> nrbq: now the fun begins - do you have jackd installed?
[04:14] <nrbq> jackd -D didn't work
[04:14] <nalioth> nrbq: call him
[04:14] <Ubunti_Ki> If I need a menu, dont need it. But need to remember Seveas.
[04:14] <nrbq> yeah, it seems to be
[04:14] <nrbq> nalioth, :)
[04:14] <nrbq> perhaps this is part of my Sweep problem
[04:14] <nrbq> dunno
[04:15] <thoreauputic> nrbq: sweep doesn't need jack
[04:15] <thoreauputic> nrbq: it might be an esd problem though
[04:15] <[LethAL] > languag- oh, wait :P
[04:15] <Ubunti_Ki> further more, no hazzle but i was Consult at SUN, not at Ubuntu.
[04:15] <nrbq> thoreauputic, then I think I'm screwed on many levels. :)
[04:16] <nrbq> I don't know anything about sound under Linux
[04:16] <thoreauputic> nrbq: I never worked jack out here - but I kind of gave up to be honest: I had it working with rosegarden4 though
[04:16] <Ubunti_Ki> Sometimes its childis to have to explain that im doing other stuff in life than only linux. And sometimes I forget thing. So I can ask you guys who competes whos the best in Linux. LOL
[04:17] <nrbq> hmmm....what I'm aiming to do is get away from CoolEdit and cubase and just use Linux tools (if possibl)
[04:17] <nrbq> I've got a feeling it might be tough
[04:17] <nrbq> For example, Audacity works fine - right from the start
[04:17] <thoreauputic> nrbq: ardour looks scary ;-)
[04:17] <nrbq> Says it's using /dev/dsp for output - but so is Sweep and all I get there is a hiss
[04:17] <nrbq> Yeah, it does look pretty heavy!
[04:17] <nrbq> :)
[04:18] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq, hey
[04:18] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq,  ur sound programm ok? did u find something usefull?
[04:18] <thoreauputic> Ubunti_Ki: it isn't a competition here - more a co-operation I'd say :)
[04:19] <sproingie> putting something down as childish ... then proceeding to punctuate one's sentence with "LOL"
[04:19] <Ubunti_Ki> But i have not got my answer, just against my quest
[04:19] <Ubunti_Ki> I think you dont know my answer and thats why you play smart.
[04:19] <zeroverse> any web developers here?  What is the most powerful editor for linux in your opinion? (I'm coming from Dreamweaver MX)
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> emacs
[04:19] <[LethAL] > LOL
[04:19] <thoreauputic> Ubunti_Ki: time to get your l33t google skilz in action then ;-)
[04:20] <zeroverse> emacs good with php?
[04:20] <nrbq> Shin_Gouki, hey! How's it going?
[04:20] <Shin_Gouki> hi how do i install Firefox 1.5 Beta? via apt-get command?
[04:20] <tombs> hi ppl
[04:20] <dbzdeath> sproingie: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=lol it is in the dictionary even... therefore it is the same as any other abbreviation... not childish
[04:20] <[LethAL] > zeroverse, nvu is quite nice as a WYSIWIG editor, emacs is text
[04:20] <Ubunti_Ki> Yes thoreauputic :)
[04:20] <nrbq> I'm getting there with the sound stuff
[04:20] <nrbq> thoreauputic's been helping me out. :)
[04:20] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq,  are u composing? i mean writing music?
[04:20] <sproingie> dbzdeath: i don't think being in "the dictionary" makes it any less annoying
[04:20] <nrbq> Would like to get Sweep going, but having problems with output
[04:20] <nrbq> just getting a hiss
[04:20] <[LethAL] > !tell zeroverse about nvu
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> [LethAL] , xemacs comes with extension for php
[04:20] <dbzdeath> sproingie: annoying != childish
[04:20] <nrbq> Shin_Gouki, yeah, trying to
[04:21] <[LethAL] > wickedpuppy, fair dos then :P
[04:21] <thoreauputic> dbzdeath: #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[04:21] <nrbq> my wife works for a small software company (kid's education stuff) and I write short pieces of intro music sometimes
[04:21] <nrbq> I'd like to get away from CoolEdit and Cubase if I can, but may not be possible
[04:21] <sproingie> it's times like that when i can't seriously entertain having any other editor than emacs
[04:21] <jjgod> Hi, I'm wondering if it is possible to add emacs-snapshot into ubuntu's package list.
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> whats broken if a box can resolv ip addresses but not transfer data with them?
[04:22] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq,  it really buggs me , some time ago(6month) i read an article about excellent Linux sound software...but i dont remember the name :/
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> Shin_Gouki: yeh, i even have the mag i read about it - somewhere
[04:22] <zeroverse> sproingie, you know the apt-get name for emacs?
[04:22] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: maybe someone did something evil with a pair of wire cutters :)
[04:22] <nrbq> well, I've looked at a few now and they all look pretty good (sweep, muse, ardour)
[04:22] <nrbq> It's just getting them to work! Hahaha!!!!
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: :) maybe, but this is comming down the same data pipe :)
[04:23] <sproingie> zeroverse: emacs21 or xemacs21
[04:23] <Shin_Gouki> hi i look for an apt-get command to install firefox 1.5beta...anyone?
[04:23] <sproingie> zeroverse: my particular poison is xemacs, mostly for hysterical raisins (got a lot of xemacs specific code).  i recommend fsf emacs to start with
[04:23] <nrbq> well, I should get back to work
[04:24] <nrbq> thoreauputic, Shin_Gouki, have a good one. Thanks again for your patient help
[04:24] <nrbq> Peace
[04:24] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: you can't - at lest not from ubuntu - why not just grab a binary?
[04:24] <Shin_Gouki> nrbq,  np
[04:24] <Seveas> jjgod, probably not
[04:24] <Shin_Gouki>  thoreauputic, i'm just with it!
[04:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> grr. bloody pc. only one on the network with the problem
[04:25] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: I insatlled a binary in my home dir to test it out - quite quick and improved
[04:25] <dodgyville> gl4: I found the problem. The clock on my laptop had reset to 1970, so the keys were set in the future
[04:25] <Shin_Gouki>  thoreauputic,  thats what i want , i dont want to overwrite my old install
[04:26] <Shin_Gouki> 1970
[04:26] <Shin_Gouki> LOL
[04:26] <Ubunti_Ki> For those who want to allow root login to gnome, cannot do it in 5.10, it was in 5.04. Just info for you.
[04:26] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: not a problem - just run it from the install dir
[04:26] <thoreauputic> Ubunti_Ki: logging into gnome as root is silly anyway
[04:27] <Seveas> Ubunti_Ki, you can do it just as in 5.04 it's just not recommended and lots of people (like me) simply deny to provide the detailed instructions on how to do that..
[04:27] <dodgyville> Thanks for your help.
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> sheesh. loud thunder outside
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> *expects to be suddenly plunged into darnkness and silence*
[04:28] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: no, that's the BSA helicopters coming to audit your network ;)
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> :P now fix it :P
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> root@aptProxy:/home/ubuntu# ping google.com
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> PING google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> 18 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 16997ms
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> :( no love from that box
[04:29] <holycow> anyone know the name of the wifi applet that is supposed to be uber cool and new in breezy for selecting wireless networks?
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi holycow, long time no see
[04:30] <holycow> oi kaiser :)
[04:30] <Skid> gtkwifi?
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[04:30] <Skid> its shite imo, if that's what you mean
[04:30] <holycow> Skid, i saw that but i don't think thats what they were working on ... i think this one is written by redhat
[04:31] <sproingie> networkmanager?
[04:31] <sproingie> i dont think that specifically does wifi selection tho
[04:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> cant ping by IP either :( something is rooted well
[04:31] <mylastmorning> !smeg
[04:31] <ubotu> I guess smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[04:31] <holycow> no this is a new applet specifically designed for wireless network selecction by redhat
[04:31] <holycow> i remember talk about ubuntu having it included
[04:31] <holycow> breezy rather
[04:32] <sproingie> got me a wireless AP, but wifi on a desktop is kinda pointless :)
[04:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh.
[04:32] <Ubunti_Ki> I know why its not recommended, and its for safety measures. Its too powerful to use ROOT. But some things are just nice to know. I did find a way to do this. Thanks anyway.
[04:32] <sproingie> i'm probably well within some free hotspot since i live in downtown san francisco
[04:33] <nalioth> Ubunti_Ki: hopefully gnome didnt trash all your permissions
[04:33] <sproingie> i'm also 28 floors up, so i'm probably *above* any hotspot
[04:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol sproingie
[04:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats high :O
[04:33] <Ghoat> how do you get a program to start with root priveledges every time?
[04:33] <antisocialboris> can anyone reccomend a decent antivirus for me?
[04:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> Ghoat: what app?
[04:33] <Skid> antisocialboris: clamav
[04:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> antisocialboris: try clamav
[04:33] <nalioth> antisocialboris: AV are unnecessary in linux
[04:33] <sproingie> antisocialboris: clamav comes highly recommended.  as you can see by now
[04:33] <Ghoat> Kamping:firestarter
[04:34] <antisocialboris> yeah, but my uni netork admin are hassling me
[04:34] <Skid> not in all cases, nalioth :)
[04:34] <thoreauputic> Ghoat: you don't need to run it unless you are configuring
[04:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> Ghoat: oh, right. i thought it set the config, then didnt need to be run?
[04:34] <danst> Hi, i am having problems with firestarter: It does not get loaded automatically after reboot...I just installed it from synaptic so it should work should'nt it?
[04:34] <nalioth> Skid: if you want to benefit your windows using associates, AV are great
[04:34] <Ubunti_Ki> No i didnt because I did not log in as a ROOT
[04:34] <sproingie> antisocialboris: so tell 'em you already have it.  if they're too clueless to know that your OS has zero viruses in the wild, they won't know how to audit your system for it
[04:35] <thoreauputic> Ghoat: see /etc/init.d/firestarter - it runs on boot
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> danst: you run it to configre,then not again
[04:35] <nalioth> danst: it doesnt have to load. the configuration it writes is saved to the system
[04:35] <Skid> I don't run windows on any pc/laptop here..
[04:35] <antisocialboris> yeah, maybe
[04:35] <Ghoat> thor:ok thanks, I'll look at it
[04:35] <sproingie> AV is all right for a mail server to keep the spool size down.  most folks already know their options if they're running a server tho
[04:35] <ibuntu> is anyone awake here?
[04:35] <thoreauputic> Ghoat: it's just a front end to iptables
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> ibuntu: no, htey all talk in their sleep
[04:35] <nalioth> ibuntu: no we're all in the bahamas
[04:35] <ibuntu> lol
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol nalioth
[04:36] <sproingie> there's some automated rootkits for linux, those could qualify as worms
[04:36] <g14> nalioth: why was I kicked from #ubuntu-unregged just because I had to go to a meeting and hadn't identified myself?
[04:36] <sproingie> they just dont spread as easily since linux isn't a monoculture
[04:37] <g14> sproingie: adore and lrk3 are the worst. They are a real pain to clean up
[04:37] <danst> but if i test if it is running (from the webpage) with /etc/init.d/firestarter status it tells me that it is stopped... is this ok? and there is no process called firestarter running in the background and everytime I start firestarter it tells me it is switched off...is this the correct behaviour?
[04:37] <Skid> sproingie: clueless users dont help
[04:37] <sproingie> g14: generally if a box has been rootkitted, it's time for reinstall
[04:37] <thoreauputic> danst: don't fret
[04:37] <nalioth> g14: were you being productive in -unregged?
[04:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> sproingie: its the recomeneded practice isnt it?
[04:37] <sproingie> Skid: user education is ultimately pointless, the best thing you can do is limit the damage they can cause to everyone else
[04:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> i had it drilled inot me fairly hard ;)
[04:37] <thoreauputic> danst: if you run a test you'll find it is doing the job
[04:38] <g14> nalioth: I went to a meeting. If you kick everyone from #ubuntu that isn't being productive, there will be a few hundred less people
[04:38] <g14> naolith: I'm not angry, I just dont see the reason as that alienates many newbies
[04:38] <nalioth> g14: i didnt kick anyone from #ubuntu. i kicked everyone from #ubuntu-unregged
[04:39] <sproingie> Kamping_Kaiser: pretty much.  rootkits are pretty low level, and you *might* have it cleaned, but you'll lose sleep over the doubts
[04:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> sproingie: i remember debian released a clean up guide, i almost memorised it at the time
[04:39] <g14> nalioth: I realize that. I dont see the reason for the doublestandard. A standard linux newb often is new to IRC
[04:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> i was failry paranoid at the time
[04:39] <g14> nalioth: That would piss me off and turn me to something else if I didn't know anybetter
[04:39] <sproingie> g14: the unregged channel is supposed to be a temporary place til people get regged.  ops sweep out the vagrants there from time to time so the true newbies don't get confused by chat
[04:39] <nalioth> g14: then the new user belongs in #ubuntu, not -unregged
[04:40] <sproingie> g14: stop taking it so personally
[04:41] <g14> Sorry, my client died
[04:42] <sproingie> Kamping_Kaiser: standard practice where i work is to just image the system early on then just ghost it if there's major troubles.  takes less time to reinstall apps than to troubleshoot a system
[04:42] <Gordon84> hallo spricht jemand deutsch??
[04:42] <nalioth> 1de
[04:42] <sproingie> !de
[04:42] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[04:42] <nalioth> !de
[04:43] <sproingie> sprachige is "speaking"?
[04:43] <ProN00b> uhm, gnomebaker is strange, it seems to allow me only to burn one file after another ?
[04:43] <ProN00b> yes, sproingie
[04:43] <nalioth> sproingie: dont even go there (german is hard to learn)
[04:43] <g14> yes
[04:43] <sproingie> never did learn all his verb forms in german
[04:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[04:44] <ibuntu> gnomebaker sucks k3b is so much better but it's ugly like kde
[04:44] <Kartoffel> I can speak "Deutsch" hehe
[04:44] <sproingie> two years of german in high school, forgotten pretty much all of it
[04:44] <Kartoffel> Was wollt Ihr denn wissen?
[04:44] <sproingie> Kartoffel: i remember that your name is "potato" though
[04:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> i should know wissen... i had a test that used it <12 monhts ago ;)
[04:45] <Gordon84> und zwar hab ich  problem ich hab dieses men anwendungen auf dem panel und mchte kmail dazu tun, wie geht das?
[04:45] <Kartoffel> hehe, that is right sproingie
[04:45] <Gordon84> hab nmlich keine ahnung bin noob in linux
[04:45] <Myrtti> !de
[04:45] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[04:45] <sproingie> german's not that hard.  at least one can pronounce what they can't understand and ask someone around them.  i've got lots of russian co workers
[04:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> and its kmail issue, so tryy kde....
[04:46] <sproingie> when you can't understand the alphabet, it's really hard
[04:46] <nalioth> sproingie: cyrillic is easy
[04:46] <sproingie> to say nothing of all the chinese i come across every day
[04:46] <ProN00b> does anyone know how to do transparent (non-clickable) output of text (logs and stuff) on the desktop ?
[04:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> japanese was not fun :) probably much like russian
[04:46] <g14> German is actually easy to learn. It is hard to pronounce
[04:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> (in ease of learning)
[04:46] <ProN00b> g14, wrong
[04:47] <sproingie> g14: i find german exceedingly easy to pronounce.  its spelling is almost perfectly regular.  anyway, offtopic
[04:47] <Myrtti> "hard to pronounce"
[04:47] <g14> ProN00b apt-get install roottail
[04:47] <nalioth> language skills in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:47] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: tricky in gnome because nautilus draws the desktop
[04:47] <Myrtti> anyway, offtopic
[04:47] <Kartoffel> Just crazy that about 1 percent of the germans vote for the npd, their new nazi party, but it's out of topic
[04:48] <thoreauputic> Kartoffel: politics is *definitely* offtopic :)
[04:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> :D
[04:48] <holycow> okay so the app turns out to be called network-monitor
[04:48] <holycow> it is indeed created by redhat
[04:48] <holycow> BUT
[04:48] <Kartoffel> yes, sorry for my comment
[04:48] <holycow> how do you use it? it appears to have no command associated with it, and it doesn't appear in the applet list?
[04:48] <holycow> weird
[04:48] <g14> OT: Steve Balmer making a complete idiot out of himself http://www.tarmo.fi/arc/monkeydance.mpeg
[04:49] <Shin_Gouki> thoreauputic, i downloaded the binary, i unziped untared it...what now?
[04:49] <sproingie> g14: this is hardly new
[04:49] <Shin_Gouki> thoreauputic, i am talking about FF1.5b
[04:49] <gxc> How to disable touchpad on laptop??
[04:49] <g14> sproingie: but not everyone has seen it
[04:49] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: look for the firefox file in the directory and run it
[04:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> wonder if its easer to fix my network issue, or to set up port forwarding on my lappy for the box that wont work :(
[04:49] <holycow> i mean network-manager even
[04:49] <g14> gxc is it a snyaptics touchpad?
[04:50] <gxc> g14: Yes:)
[04:50] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: it's a start script so you do ./firefox or something like that
[04:50] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: or make a launcher if you prefer
[04:50] <gxc> I'm using 5.10
[04:51] <malverian[work] > Any idea why my Gnome main menu would no longer contain a "Run" menu?
[04:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> malverian[work] : to make it less complicated
[04:51] <thoreauputic> malverian[work] : removed in breezy I think - hit alt-F2
[04:51] <ProN00b> how can i make deb packages again ?
[04:51] <g14> gxc: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=956
[04:51] <malverian[work] > That's horrible :-P
[04:51] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: depends - quick and dirty way is with checkinstall
[04:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> malverian[work] : then add it to the pannel :)
[04:52] <Shin_Gouki> thoreauputic, thx it started i guess i will ask u later what a launcher is & how to create it!
[04:52] <malverian[work] > Then I have more crap taking up my panel.
[04:53] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: right click panel or desktop, create launcher, put in th epath to the FF executable... not hard
[04:53] <g14> malverian[work] : You could always edit the menu xml files and add it yourself. But that would not be very fun
[04:53] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: you can choose an icon too
[04:53] <gxc> g14: Can you send the url to me again? thanks
[04:53] <bpf> i recently installed breezy on a new thinkpad x40 and I can't seem to get the network settings for multiple locations to work properly. it reverts to wired and DHCP every time I boot
[04:53] <thoreauputic> malverian[work] : why not jsut use alt-F2 ?
[04:53] <malverian[work] > I'm not following why they thought that was a good idea to begin with.. but now that I know.
[04:54] <bpf> I also can't get the wireless to work, wondering if I have all the right packages installed. I was informed last week in here that it should work "out of the box" with breezy
[04:54] <g14> gxc: I know it is in the hoary repositories. Im not on a breezy box to test
[04:54] <malverian[work] > thoreauputic, I do. But it's just silly not to have it there.
[04:54] <g14> gxc: apt-get install gsynaptics
[04:54] <thoreauputic> malverian[work] : probably a gnome 2.12 thing
[04:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> malverian[work] : your average user wont use it
[04:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> its not silly at all
[04:54] <gxc> g14: thanks! i'll try it
[04:55] <Robihnood> help
[04:55] <thoreauputic> malverian[work] : the gnome devs are gradually reducing all options - pretty soon you'll just have a "start here" icon *grin*
[04:55] <dreamwave> hello.  i'm playing around with shortcut keys in gnome.  i want to use the SUPER_L (windows) key as a modifier key.  currently, when defining shortcuts, the key acts like a regular key.  anyone know how to do this?
[04:55] <g14> malverian[work] : A user shouldn't need to use the command line. It is part of the CommandLineDisinegration breezy goal
[04:55] <dreamwave> bpf: what kind of card do you have?
[04:55] <Robihnood> how can i install on my pc
[04:55] <[LethAL] > !tell Robihnood about install
[04:55] <Robihnood> yes about install
[04:56] <[LethAL] > Robihnood, see the link ubotu sent you
[04:56] <g14> malverian[work]  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommandLineDisintegration
[04:56] <Ghoat> Will Ubuntu run .RPM files?
[04:56] <Kartoffel> no
[04:56] <[LethAL] > !alien
[04:56] <ubotu> alien is, like, a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[04:57] <Whistler> Ghoat u can convert these with alien
[04:57] <Ghoat> KArt:didn't think so
[04:57] <thoreauputic> Ghoat: you would convert them with alien - but it's hit and miss
[04:57] <Ng> *some* RPMs can be converted with alien
[04:57] <ProN00b> g14, can't find the roottail package
[04:57] <Ng> but generally it's not worth the hassle imho
[04:57] <bpf> dreamwave, not sure - it is built-in. can I query that somehow?
[04:57] <epic___> ProN00b,   root-tail
[04:57] <Ghoat> Whistler:Really?  I'll check it out, thanks...
[04:57] <Ng> and for goodness's sake don't try and alien something like libc ;)
[04:57] <dreamwave> bpf, what is the make of your motherboard/computer?
[04:57] <bpf> I _just_ got this a couple days ago and have only tried a few things
[04:57] <bpf> thinkpad x40
[04:57] <g14> Ng: amen :-)
[04:57] <bpf> lappy
[04:58] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: warning - roottail won't show on a standard gnome desktop
[04:58] <g14> ProN00b: he is right, you need to disable nautilus from controlling the desktop
[04:58] <thoreauputic> !info root-tail
[04:58] <ubotu> root-tail: (Displays select log files in the X root window), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.1+CVS-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 80 kB
[04:58] <Ubunti_Ki> whats a foobar?
[04:58] <Ng> like a frobnik ;)
[04:58] <Ng> a miscellaneous thing :)
[04:59] <ProN00b> yeah, root-tail does nothing
[04:59] <g14> thats really cool. Does ubotu have metadata on all of the packages in main or universe?
[04:59] <thoreauputic> Ubunti_Ki: foo and bar are traditional unix "placeholder" words
[04:59] <voth> once xubuntu is installed do i simple log out then back in ?
[04:59] <dreamwave> bpf, http://www.chronox.de/x40_linux/linux_on_x40.html
[04:59] <[LethAL] > g14, yep
[04:59] <pont> has anyone reported problems with the nvidia gl drivers and hoary ?
[04:59] <dreamwave> bpf, http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ibm.html
[04:59] <dreamwave> bpf, that second link has a desription of ubuntu 5.04 running on the x40
[04:59] <Ng> x40 should be fairly well supported, it's mostly intel kit. my flatmate has one, but he won't let me throw bunty at it ;(
[05:00] <thoreauputic> voth: yes
[05:00] <holycow> anyone know how to use network-manager to select wireless networks?  i don't seen an applet or a command associated with this tool
[05:00] <holycow> *grrrr*
[05:00] <thoreauputic> voth: choose from the sessions menu in the login screen
[05:00] <[LethAL] > !info wifi-radar
[05:00] <Ubunti_Ki> Thanx
[05:00] <bpf> thanks for the links
[05:00] <[LethAL] > grrr
[05:00] <dreamwave> bpf, sure
[05:00] <Whistler> anybody have used gmailfs from apt-get?
[05:01] <Ng> Whistler: no and doing so violates the EULA of gmail as I understand it
[05:01] <g14> holycow: /usr/bin/nm-applet
[05:01] <Whistler> Ng i really do not care about it
[05:01] <Ng> Whistler: you might care when they erase your files for violating the EULA ;)
[05:01] <charlie5> hello folks ... does anyone develop with the Ada programming language under Ubuntu ?
[05:01] <rawiramdhan> newb question: how do I remove dir. that are not empty
[05:01] <Whistler> Ng anyway i want to try it out
[05:01] <g14> holycow: add that to the startup tab under gnome-session
[05:01] <JDigital> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[05:01] <JDigital> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[05:01] <JDigital> eject: unmount of `/dev/hda' failed
[05:02] <holycow> aha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:02] <antisocialboris> whats the best media player?
[05:02] <JDigital> Any ideas?
[05:02] <thoreauputic> rawiramdhan: rm -r
[05:02] <holycow> wicked! danke :)
[05:02] <g14> rawiramdhan: rm -r
[05:02] <charlie5> ... i was wondering if ubuntu has gcc 4.0.2 or later ?
[05:02] <g14> beep-media-player
[05:02] <thoreauputic> antisocialboris: define "best"
[05:02] <JDigital> mplayer
[05:02] <holycow> brilliant :)
[05:02] <Ng> charlie5: breezy is on 4.0.1 at the moment
[05:02] <[LethAL] > holycow, ignore ubotu, get wifi-radar anyway
[05:02] <grayman_> Ng, i have 4.0.2
[05:02] <dreamwave> gcc (GCC) 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[05:02] <g14> holycow: did it work? NM is one of those really cool toys to play with
[05:02] <antisocialboris> ok, how about anything that'll actually let me watch movies etc
[05:03] <JDigital> mplayer
[05:03] <holycow> [LethAL] , will do
[05:03] <Ng> grayman_: haha, good point. the package claims it's 4.0.1, but it's 4.0.2 :)
[05:03] <antisocialboris> where can i get mplayer?
[05:03] <grayman_> actually gstreamer is good and its installed by default with totem
[05:03] <zeroverse> whistler, if you really need massive online storage you can get about 10 gigs of hosting space for 10-20 bucks a month at some decent web hosts
[05:03] <holycow> g14, well at least the applet is running, i'm okay if it is not perfect as long as i know what it is i installed.  so far okay, now gotta make connection
[05:03] <grayman_> but you need to install codecs so it will work properly
[05:03] <thoreauputic> !tell antisocialboris about restricted
[05:03] <JDigital> How do I find out what's using my CD drive
[05:03] <Whistler> zeroverse i just want to try gmailfs out thats it
[05:03] <ProN00b> so, how do i get root-tail to work ?
[05:04] <JDigital> It says the device is busy
[05:04] <Whistler> i do not need a lot of space or anything
[05:04] <g14> holycow: dpkg -L networkmanager | grep bin I think will do
[05:04] <ruschi> Now a bit deeper to gory details: X-keyboard -- I have a Sun Type6 USB Keyboard and ever since I upgraded to breezy I cant do the CTRL+ALT+Fn virtual Console Switch anymore.... if not logged in in X it switches perfectly
[05:04] <Ng> JDigital: sudo fuser -m /media/cdrom0    - that will give you the process id(s) of whatever is using your cdrom
[05:04] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: it draws on the root window, which gnome hides - it works in window managers like fluxbox
[05:04] <JDigital> thanks :D
[05:04] <grayman_> antisocialboris, totem. use totem
[05:04] <JDigital> Are you Ng from #amiga ?
[05:05] <ruschi> any Idea what this may be - It doesn't even work with a custom xmodmap
[05:05] <grayman_> antisocialboris, just search for gstreamer codecs with synaptic and install them
[05:05] <Ng> JDigital: I used to lurk on a #amiga a bunch of years ago, yeah :)
[05:05] <ProN00b> thoreauputic, so i can't just change some gnome setting ?
[05:05] <JDigital> The one on Amiganet?
[05:05] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: there's probably a way to do it in gnome, but how I don't personally know
[05:05] <Ng> JDigital: think so, yeah. with darxide? :)
[05:05] <ruschi> I put the Xmodmap into /etc/X11 so it will be read globally - I think
[05:05] <g14> antisocialboris: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[05:05] <JDigital> Yeah
[05:05] <Ng> haha
[05:05] <JDigital> I'd be like
[05:05] <JDigital> !seen JDigital
[05:05] <ubotu> jdigital is currently on #ubuntu (4m 7s)
[05:06] <ruschi> xev shows all key events correctly
[05:06] <JDigital> and it's say "Yeah I see you. Boy, you're ugly."
[05:06] <Ng> hehe
[05:06] <ompaul> is colony 6 out today? I thought I read it and can't locate it in mail without resorting to some strange grep magic
[05:06] <Ng> ahh, good old darx
[05:06] <Ng> that was a proper bot :)
[05:06] <JDigital> Yeah
[05:06] <JDigital> Dancer ftw
[05:06] <ruschi> who knows alot about X configuration
[05:06] <nalioth> ompaul: you are behind. the preview release is here already
[05:07] <JDigital> Has Amiga released any non-vapourware at all since 2001?
[05:07] <ompaul> nalioth, is that C5 or C6  ? or am I just loosing it?
[05:07] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: I would read "man root-tail " first - there are a lot of options. I don't use it any more because I cn get the same effect in fluxbox by toggling window borders off
[05:07] <nalioth> ompaul: it's neither. its Preview Release
[05:07] <ccooke> nalioth: Colony 5 is *after* the preview release
[05:07] <grayman_> gl4, actually i had to install FFmpeg plugin for GStreamer to play divx movies
[05:07] <thoreauputic> hi ompaul :)
[05:07] <ompaul> hi thoreauputic
[05:07] <nalioth> ccooke: you kiddin me?
[05:07] <ompaul> nalioth, url please I want to provide torrent
[05:08] <Secreth`X> darn r0d isn't here..
[05:08] <charlie5> Ng, thanks ... i have just installed 'hoary hedgehog' ... can i update to gcc 4.01 from there ? the package manager only seems to provide gcc 4.0
[05:08] <nalioth> ompaul: www.ubuntulinux.org/download
[05:08] <ruschi> is there a detailed Handbook for Xconfiguration?
[05:08] <ompaul> nalioth, if you promise not to laugh I was looking in cdimage.ubuntu ....
[05:08] <Secreth`X> Does someone have expirience with partitionmagic?
[05:08] <nalioth> Secreth`X: yes we do
[05:08] <ruschi> yes - bad ones
[05:08] <Secreth`X> erm
[05:08] <Secreth`X> ok
[05:09] <Whistler> how do i quit from man?
[05:09] <Secreth`X> so everytime when I add a partition
[05:09] <Ng> charlie5: you'd have to upgrade your entire install to breezy, which isn't currently a stable release. It is released in a little over a week though, so it's not long to wait, or you could do it now as it's fairly stable right now (but that could in theory change)
[05:09] <[LethAL] > Whistler, q
[05:09] <ruschi> I screwed up a ext3 partition once
[05:09] <Secreth`X> It gives me the same error
[05:09] <thoreauputic> ruschi:  man X ? *grin*
[05:09] <g14> Whistler, q
[05:09] <nalioth> wijnand: "q"
[05:09] <[LethAL] > Got there first :D
[05:09] <Whistler> thx
[05:09] <Whistler> :)
[05:09] <grayman_> breezy works good <3
[05:09] <Whistler> how do i empty trash on breezy?
[05:09] <[LethAL] > It sure does
[05:09] <JDigital> Hm, that fuser command says "19488c"
[05:09] <g14> Has anyone set up Evolution to connect to a groupwise server
[05:09] <JDigital> How do I find out what that is
[05:10] <[LethAL] > Whistler, right-click the wastbin?
[05:10] <Whistler> ther is no trash icon in panel
[05:10] <grayman_> Whistler, right click-> empty trash
[05:10] <thoreauputic> ruschi: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is pretty comprehensive
[05:10] <[LethAL] > Whistler, add it back then
[05:10] <nalioth> Whistler: right click and add it
[05:10] <g14> I am curious to know if it supports calendaring and everything and if it does, I am converting my work laptop to ubuntu
[05:10] <grayman_> Whistler, bottom right corner
[05:10] <ompaul> Whistler, down the bottom right of the screen right click on bin and do it all or double click and highlight the bits you want to remove
[05:10] <ruschi> @thorapeutic - thanks for advice but I already did that
[05:10] <dracflamloc> hello. anyone know of a good "hyperterminal" like program for linux
[05:10] <Whistler> thx
[05:10] <Whistler> :)
[05:10] <zeroverse> g14 it does support calendaring
[05:10] <charlie5> ng, ok ... i have slooow net connect, so i will make do with the hedghog for present ... thanks for the assist
[05:10] <ruschi> and it works all right except for the virtual console switching
[05:10] <Whistler> i have another problem with my mp3 player
[05:11] <g14> zeroverse: and does it have busy search?
[05:11] <thoreauputic> ruschi: it might be more useful to say what you are trying to do
[05:11] <SCR34M> Hi, got a problem when installing ubuntu, it stucked on the partition page, when I pressed the continue button, an error saying "E: unimplemented function" comes out, anyone can help?
[05:11] <Secreth`X> nalioth: everytime when I add a partition, then reboot it gives me this: error 1527: Bad Update Sequence Number
[05:11] <Whistler> then i delete files from it ubuntu creates a new folder named .trash
[05:11] <Whistler> and all files are in there
[05:11] <ruschi> I want to get my virtual consoles accessable again
[05:11] <Whistler> can i disable trash
[05:11] <Whistler> ?
[05:11] <ruschi> by pressing ctrl+alt+fn
[05:11] <nalioth> Secreth`X: i'm not up on my PM induced errors
[05:11] <nalioth> Secreth`X: is the partition there?
[05:11] <thoreauputic> ruschi: have you checked /etc/inittab ?
[05:11] <ruschi> alll works fine except for that
[05:11] <Secreth`X> no it isnt
[05:12] <grayman_> Whistler, what mp3 player?
[05:12] <g14> Whistler: there is a setting in gconf to bypass trash. gconf-editor is like the registry editor for windows
[05:12] <nalioth> Secreth`X: have you tried gparted?
[05:12] <whp_> chick to chick
[05:12] <Secreth`X> It gives that error when it's resizing C:
[05:12] <ruschi> they are all running tty1-tty6
[05:12] <Whistler> grayman_ apacer i dont remember model
[05:12] <Secreth`X> No I didnt nalioth, I didnt understand it o_O
[05:12] <imc_> Hi, trying ito install JRE and following the instructions at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java - when I run the fakeroot command to create the .deb I get:   dpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)
[05:12] <Whistler> i have this bug with all versions of ubuntu
[05:12] <Whistler> if i can call it so
[05:12] <ruschi> and I can access them whine X is starting but as soon as GDM is running completetly I can't accessthem anymore
[05:12] <nalioth> imc_: use the deb
[05:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell imc_ about javadeb
[05:13] <imc_> thanks
[05:13] <grayman_> Whistler, its probably not a big, but i dunno
[05:13] <grayman_> *bug
[05:13] <imc_> I have tried that and had difficulties. Can I test the install somehow to se if java is running?
[05:14] <nalioth> imc_: type "java --version"
[05:14] <ruschi> thorapeutic: xev shows the correct sequence CTRL_L , ALT_L ,F1
[05:14] <imc_> Thanks, nalioth!
[05:14] <JDigital> Hahaha
[05:15] <JDigital> It turned out that the process that was using my CD drive, was the shell window that I was using to try and close it
[05:15] <JDigital> that's pretty ironic
[05:15] <Secreth`X> nalioth: can I run gparted on ubuntu live cd?
[05:15] <nalioth> Secreth`X: the breezy livecd, yes
[05:15] <atripathi> finally got connected again :)
[05:15] <Secreth`X> k
[05:16] <atripathi> this dsl connection problem is getting serious
[05:16] <atripathi> fedora has nice support to dsl internet connection
[05:16] <sarkie> lo
[05:16] <daved> atripathi: umm.. if you're using ethernet, anything will support it.. if you're not, you need to be using ethernet
[05:17] <atripathi> i am on ethernet buddy
[05:17] <atripathi> want on demand pppoe
[05:17] <daved> ew.. pppoe
[05:17] <sarkie> hi does anyone know if brezzy is going to be compiled with the lastest gcc?
[05:17] <daved> get a real isp
[05:17] <atripathi> pppoeconf is what i am using
[05:17] <Robihnood> pls help how to install
[05:17] <atripathi> i am on dsl
[05:17] <atripathi> got a dsl modem
[05:18] <Robihnood> anybody help
[05:18] <nalioth> Robihnood: help to install what?
[05:18] <Robihnood> yes
[05:18] <atripathi> ubuntu is good but it needs some more utilities to make life a bit easier
[05:18] <nalioth> atripathi: add the ones you like
[05:18] <sarkie> it does? all in synaptics
[05:18] <thoreauputic> sarkie: gcc4 AFAIK
[05:19] <sarkie> that ThomasM
[05:19] <sarkie> oops
[05:19] <ompaul> wow there must be very few seeders for the rc 386 iso  I am getting less than 1 kps for it
[05:19] <grayman_> atri, erm yo dont hav epppoe installed?
[05:19] <sarkie> thanx thoreauputic
[05:19] <ruschi> bye
[05:19] <atripathi> i just installed rp-pppoe just to mess up with my existing dsl setup
[05:19] <grayman_> hmm
[05:19] <atripathi> fiddeling for 1 hour luckily left me to previous setup
[05:19] <grayman_> its not in apt
[05:20] <grayman_> well
[05:20] <atripathi> nope1
[05:20] <thoreauputic> !info pppoeconf
[05:20] <grayman_> you can try poking MOTU guys
[05:20] <ubotu> pppoeconf: (configures PPPoE/ADSL connections), section net, is optional. Version: 1.1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 17 kB, Installed size: 324 kB
[05:20] <sarkie> what exactly happens?
[05:21] <atripathi> provide info on epppoe
[05:21] <grayman_> not epppoe
[05:21] <atripathi> ?
[05:21] <grayman_> the e just jumped there from have :)
[05:21] <ThomasM> sarkie: Sorry to have screwed up your nick completion. :P
[05:21] <atripathi> k
[05:21] <thoreauputic> grayman_: I think you want pppoeconf, don't you?
[05:22] <epic___> Bless you, Angels of Hilarity.
[05:22] <atripathi> gray i have pppoeconf and is actually working fine but is not what I would like to do every now and then
[05:22] <grayman_> thoreauputic, erm. i dont want pppoe. atripathi does
[05:22] <thoreauputic> grayman_: whoever wanted it, it's in th repos
[05:23] <thoreauputic> atripathi: see ubotu above
[05:23] <thoreauputic> atripathi: ah sorry missed your post
[05:23] <atripathi> yeah i have pppoeconf
[05:23] <thoreauputic> OK
[05:23] <atripathi> np
[05:24] <goh> Hi
[05:24] <kemik> !shockwave
[05:24] <ubotu> Unfortunately there is no shockwave available for Linux (unless you use wine).  Please lobby Macromedia!
[05:24] <atripathi> does breezy provide better internet connectivity gui tool ?
[05:25] <Syruss> I've got breezy badger...when I try to compile modules, or try compile anything it tries to use GCC 3.4 rather than version 4 (which I think my kernel is compiled against at a guess)....any ideas how I can make gcc 4 the default compiler (or a way around this problem)?
[05:25] <Syruss> ...well, it tries to use 3.4
[05:25] <goh> I got this msg earlier b4 I got disconnected.... any 1 can enlighten me on the detailed steps?":i'd copy cdrom to cdrom_backup and then make cdrom a symbolic link to cdrw (assuming that cdrw exists)
[05:25] <zoot_> hi - trying to get sound output working on an "HP flat panel speaker bar" which connects via USB (I assume for power) and a sound cable to the PC. Using Breezy preview. Where do I begin?
[05:25] <antisocialboris> my uni has a dc++ hub, anyone know how i can get using it?
[05:25] <antisocialboris> (i got sent a program but its .exe)
[05:26] <Syruss> antisocialboris, apt-cache search dc++
[05:26] <nalioth> Syruss: in your terminal type "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.01" or whatever versaion 0f gcc you want to use
[05:26] <Syruss> ta nalioth
[05:27] <Syruss> hmm
[05:27] <antisocialboris> ok, that gave me loads of stuff
[05:27] <Syruss> doesn't seem to have that env variable nalioth
[05:27] <Syruss> does that override something else?
[05:27] <sambagirl> anyone install egoboo?
[05:27] <zoot_> the sound card is: Realtek 2 channel ALC260
[05:27] <Secreth`X> nalioth, I downloaded it, but how do I run it now?
[05:27] <nalioth> Syruss: only until you close that terminal window
[05:27] <atripathi> ok i am going to try rp-pppoe again
[05:27] <nalioth> Secreth`X: you in the livecd now?
[05:28] <atripathi> see ya peeps
[05:28] <Secreth`X> nalioth: yes
[05:28] <Syruss> I still get: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-686/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found
[05:28] <Happu> Hey somebody knows what version of ubuntu i get if i order cds? Is it 5.10 prelease or the correct one?
[05:28] <Syruss> :/
[05:28] <zoot_> all fixed.. mysteriously *grin*
[05:28] <nalioth> Syruss: edit your .sh file
[05:28] <epic___> Anybody else find that testing sound input with gstreamer-properties after selecting ALSA causes it to die?
[05:28] <nalioth> Secreth`X: type "sudo gparted /dev/hda"
[05:28] <Secreth`X> nalioth: k brb
[05:30] <zeroverse> can anyone reccommend a good password manager program like KeePass ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/keepass/ )?
[05:31] <Whistler> then i press 2nd mouse button on file nautilus restarts?
[05:31] <Whistler> any ideas?
[05:31] <Whistler> i am on breezy
[05:31] <Seveas> zeroverse, revelation
[05:32] <Syruss> hmm
[05:32] <olicat> are there any programs for visually creating sql databases?
[05:32] <Robihnood> how can i boot to cd
[05:32] <grayman_> whistler, which is second button?
[05:32] <JDigital> olicat: Microsoft Access
[05:32] <olicat> boomboom.
[05:32] <Whistler> grayman_ wright one
[05:32] <JDigital> Robihnood: Set it in the bios
[05:32] <olicat> how about for linux? :)
[05:32] <Robihnood> the ubunto doest not boot
[05:32] <LazyAngel> has anyone tried to set up raid 5 on asus a8n-sli ?
[05:33] <JDigital> Does OpenOffice have a virus?
[05:33] <JDigital> not virus
[05:33] <grayman_> Whistler, dont get that effect. which type of file is that?
[05:33] <JDigital> I mean an MS Access equivalent
[05:33] <Whistler> *deb one
[05:33] <JDigital> don't know how I confused MS Access with a virus...
[05:33] <Seveas> JDigital, lol :)
[05:33] <Seveas> openoffice has a database program since 2.0
[05:33] <zeroverse> olicat i use phpmyadmin
[05:33] <Seveas> breezy has it
[05:33] <olicat> JDigital, it has something called Base
[05:34] <olicat> doesn't use postgres though, it seems
[05:34] <zeroverse> but that requires mysql
[05:34] <Secreth`X> nalioth: erm, I think its stucked..
[05:34] <grayman_> Whistler, is it just with deb or also with other types?
[05:34] <olicat> zeroverse, i see. i'm after postgres
[05:34] <Robihnood> i   finish download ang i write to cdr but  i tried to boot  can boot   using my download
[05:34] <zeroverse> there is something similar for postgres though
[05:34] <Astholf> hi
[05:34] <nalioth> Secreth`X: what have you tried to do?
[05:34] <olicat> ideally i'm looking for something gnome'ish
[05:34] <Whistler> grayman_ with  few more files
[05:34] <Secreth`X> nalioth: what you said.. sudo gparted /dev/hda
[05:35] <zeroverse> i'm looking for it right now
[05:35] <zeroverse> got it: http://phppgadmin.sourceforge.net/
[05:35] <Seveas> !info phppgadmin
[05:35] <olicat> zeroverse, cool thanks, i'll take a look
[05:35] <ubotu> phppgadmin: (Set of PHP scripts to administrate PostgreSQL over the WWW), section universe/web, is extra. Version: 3.5.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 576 kB, Installed size: 3448 kB
[05:35] <Astholf> does anyone know how to force the system to scan for new hardware?
[05:36] <Secreth`X> nalioth: yep, it's stucked.. it doesn't respond anymore
[05:36] <Seveas> Astholf, reboot / /etc/init.d/udev restart
[05:36] <sproingie> postgres also has pgadmin III which is frankly not great but not bad either, no webserver+php required
[05:36] <nalioth> Secreth`X: kill your gparted process, and join #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:37] <zeroverse> http://www.pgadmin.org/
[05:37] <Secreth`X> nalioth: erm I can't kill it. I can't even move the frigging mouse o_O, k I'll join
[05:37] <Astholf> Can't you do it without rebooting? I know there is a command that does that but I can't remember it
[05:38] <Syruss> this is doing my noggin in
[05:38] <sproingie> oh there's also tora.  can't forget tora
[05:38] <sproingie> http://tora.sf.net ... can't remember whether it does pg tho.  windows version is also useless, dont bother with it
[05:38] <olicat> zeroverse, that looks pretty good. thanks
[05:39] <zeroverse> yeah, tora supports pg
[05:39] <jenocin> anyone else have problems with random freezing while on laptop battery?
[05:40] <zeroverse> i just use plain ol command lines for my databases
[05:40] <sproingie> zeroverse: now if only the windows version wasn't such a steaming turd :(
[05:40] <noaXess> hi all
[05:41] <ish> What happened to lndir?
[05:41] <Astholf> Thank you... this is a nice chanel
[05:41] <Astholf> bye
[05:41] <JDigital> I ate it
[05:41] <Syruss> how can I totally un-install a module?
[05:41] <sproingie> tho i suspect the stop button doesn't work for pg
[05:41] <Syruss> I'm not talking about rmmod'ing it either
[05:42] <ish> in hoary it was in xutils I think.
[05:42] <Syruss> I seem to have some kind of cached version of a module I can't get rid of using module-assistant's clean/purge
[05:42] <Syruss> and it insists on using this tainted module instead of a freshly compiled one
[05:42] <Syruss> therefore making my whole system unstable
[05:43] <Ghoat> anyone, how do I give write permissions to a folder?
[05:43] <kemik> Ghoat:  chmod +w <folder>
[05:43] <noaXess> Ghoat: chmod -R for recursive
[05:44] <Ghoat> kemik: noa: thanks
[05:44] <noaXess> does anybody experienced with ubuntu and wireless cards?
[05:44] <kemik> noaXess:  nope, but if you dont have a driver you could perhaps use ndiswrapper and the windowsdriver
[05:44] <kemik> !tell noaXess about ndiswrapper
[05:45] <kemik> !tell noaXess about wireless
[05:45] <noaXess> kemik: then its the same procedure than in other linux distris.. :)
[05:45] <kemik> noaXess:  yeah, look up the supported page though aswell..
[05:45] <noaXess> kemik: i know all about it.. thought in ubuntu there is a solution
[05:45] <kemik> ahh.. well i think it'd propaget thru all distros rather quickly
[05:45] <Syruss> aha
[05:45] <kemik> since a solution would be native drivers
[05:45] <kemik> ;)
[05:45] <noaXess> i have a notebook with an integrated intel wlan card.. and its hard to bring it up
[05:45] <Syruss> --force install
[05:46] <jenocin> any problems with xinetd that would cause freezes?
[05:47] <crashbox> has anyone been able to install vlc on an amd64 breezy install?
[05:47] <noaXess> kemik: its the ipw2200 chip from intel.. i see its supported with the given ubuntu driver..
[05:49] <LazyAngel> can ubuntu boot from software raid 5?
[05:50] <[LethAL] > LazyAngel, no idea, look at !raid though
[05:51] <BooZee> hello everybody!
[05:51] <kemik> noaXess:  you're in luck then ;)
[05:51] <BooZee> how can I control and disable some things that run with the boot of linux?
[05:53] <rc55> Hello - if I use the current Breezy preview, can I up it to breezy final easily?
[05:53] <ompaul> yes
[05:53] <rc55> great :)
[05:54] <noaXess> kemik: yeah.. sounds that ubuntu support some hardware i need/have :) nice..
[05:55] <noaXess> whats the tool for upgrade or install? grafical or command?
[05:55] <BooZee> sudo apt-get update
[05:55] <BooZee> and than
[05:55] <BooZee> sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:56] <vegiVamp> dist-upgrade, rather
[05:57] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, i am back now....debian is installed
[05:57] <noaXess> BooZee, vegiVamp: thx i'm just new in ubuntu.. and plan to install it on my acer notebook
[05:58] <vegiVamp> noaXess: if you run the update-manager, you should always have the latest version.
[05:58] <LazyAngel> is the boot partition only accessed when you boot? I want to put it on an old disk, but the disk  is noisy. So i want to unmount it when the boot is done...
[05:59] <noaXess> vegiVamp: and the update-manager is a grafical ui?
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Alpha i386 (20050902)] /dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> anyone knows how to solve this error ?
[05:59] <vegiVamp> LazyAngel: if should be, yes, but I'm not guaranteeing that :-)
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> i did apt-cdrom add
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> but still having this error