[06:02] <ScottK> pitti: Looking at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html is seems that the KDE SC 4.7.3 SRU only got partially copied over.  A big chunk of them are in -updates, but all the ones listed against bug #901975  should have been copied together.  Not sure what happened.
[06:05] <RAOF> ScottK: I'm not sure pitti's here; can I do anything to help?  I was planning on running through the SRUs before ending the day; it looks like all the ones you're concerned about should be picked up in my normal processing?
[06:14] <ScottK> RAOF: The concern I have is that it looks like half of KDE got moved and half didn't.
[06:14] <ScottK> I doubt it will cause a problem, but it was tested together, so it's better, IMO, to get it all moved as close to one time as possible.
[06:14] <RAOF> So, that's easily resolved by me moving the other half, plus the language packs, right?
[06:15] <ScottK> Yes.
[06:18] <ScottK> RAOF: Thanks for looking into it.  I'm off to bed.
[06:18] <RAOF> No problem.
[06:19] <RAOF> l10n done.
[07:09] <jbicha> anyone want to rebuild gnome-shell for oneiric (bug 903382)? my upload rights aren't sufficient for that :(
[07:11] <broder> jbicha: just a no-change rebuild to oneiric-proposed? i can do that
[07:13] <jbicha> broder: yes, thank you!
[07:15] <micahg> jbicha: can you merge gnome-shell from Debian so there are no more issues please :)
[07:15] <broder> jbicha: done. i've opened an oneiric task as well so you can target things appropriately
[07:16] <pitti> Good morning
[07:16] <pitti> ScottK: uh, sorry, I thought I caught them all; looking
[07:18] <pitti> ScottK: I see four which are missing; I guess they again timed out and I missed them; copied now
[07:44] <pitti> wow, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise/ looks great today
[07:44] <pitti> now, nobody break anything over the holidays :)
[07:56] <dholbach> good morning
[07:57] <pitti> hey dholbach
[07:57] <dholbach> hey pitti
[09:24] <pitti> infinity, lamont: FYI, I'm uploading new natty-proposed langpacks; I temporarily switched allspice and crested to i386 and updated the notes/description accordingly
[09:24] <pitti> will switch back once the flood is over
[09:24] <pitti> (or if we get a lot of other uploads which need amd64)
[09:28] <pitti> infinity, lamont: ah, nevermind, we copy binaries from the PPA these days, switching back
[11:09] <Laney> pitti: that email was interesting, thanks!
[11:10] <pitti> Laney: I'm glad it is; took me over an hour to write, after all :)
[11:10] <pitti> Laney: now that I've been through it I wonder how we did that in the past
[11:10] <Laney> sweating blood around milestones? :-)
[11:10] <pitti> well, partially it was spread over all developers, but for the most part we simply ignored them
[11:11] <Laney> also ignoring stuff, yes
[11:11] <pitti> and then taking the mass removal club before release time, yes
[11:14] <cjwatson> pitti: thanks, indeed!
[11:14] <cjwatson> Laney: can I remove the ghc-ghci r(b)deps on armel/armhf/powerpc?
[11:14] <cjwatson> binaries, I mean
[11:14] <cjwatson> I think that would clean up http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/ghc.html somewhat
[11:14] <Laney> if they no longer build, then yes please
[11:14] <Laney> are built* — I was going to ask for that at some point
[11:15] <cjwatson> haskell-clientsession haskell-convertible-text haskell-data-accessor-template haskell-file-embed haskell-hamlet haskell-haxr haskell-hledger-web haskell-path-pieces haskell-quickcheck haskell-syb-with-class haskell-type-level haskell-web-routes-quasi
[11:15] <cjwatson> is the list, I believe
[11:15] <cjwatson> oh, maybe not haskell-quickcheck
[11:17] <dantti> cnd: ping
[11:19] <cjwatson> actually it looks like just haskell-clientsession haskell-file-embed
[11:20] <Laney> not sure which of the list has OOD binaries
[11:22] <cjwatson> just those two by the looks of things
[11:22] <cjwatson> done now
[11:22] <cjwatson> (and only on powerpc)
[11:24] <cjwatson> hm, may be some others for other reasons though
[11:24] <Laney> bbs
[11:25] <cjwatson> ah yes, I need to hit checkrdepends recursively
[11:26] <mok0> ls
[11:29] <ScottK> pitti: Thanks.
[11:30] <cjwatson> ... that doesn't yield any more packages to remove, though, so good
[11:30] <mok0> Who is familiar with Mesa?
[11:30] <mok0> ... or rather mesa-glw
[11:32] <ajmitch> pitti: great writeup in that email :)
[11:42] <mok0> In Debian, the package libglw-mesa comes from source package mesa_7.11.2-1, but in Ubuntu it comes from source package mesa-glw. What is the reason for this?
[11:44] <mok0> The package provides the library libGLw.so, which is broken on Ubuntu
[11:44] <mok0> but fixed in Debian Re: BTS #624156
[11:46] <mok0> I also see that Ubuntu has its own version of mesa: 7.11-0ubuntu4
[11:47] <TiMiDo> hi guy's
[11:47] <TiMiDo> good Morning
[11:53] <ogra> mok0, try #ubuntu-x
[11:53] <mok0> ogra, thx, I will
[11:54] <ogra> just guessing, but its probably a universe/main issue that there is a separate source package
[11:57] <TiMiDo> python 2.7 sure look nice ;)
[11:57] <TiMiDo> very powerful
[11:58] <mok0> TiMiDo: What makes you say that? Very few changes from 2.6
[11:58] <cjwatson> built-in collections.OrderedDict is nice
[11:58] <cjwatson> tedious to write directly
[11:59] <TiMiDo> yeah correct mok0
[11:59] <mok0> ... Now 3000K *is* powerful. Wish all extensions could be updated soon
[12:00] <TiMiDo> more fun ;) we'll have
[12:00] <mok0> Numpy for example
[12:00] <TiMiDo> django is a cool small project
[12:00] <mok0> he
[12:00] <TiMiDo> but at the same time powerful
[12:00] <mok0> You call that "small"?
[12:01] <TiMiDo> yeah I seen pythons applets or apps reaching the 2GB
[12:01] <TiMiDo> in my class ;)
[12:02] <mok0> TiMiDo: Those are huge. Django is big
[12:02] <mok0> In my world
[12:02] <TiMiDo> oh in my class i seen bigger apps
[12:02] <TiMiDo> so that's why
[12:02] <mok0> Since you can do an incredible amount of stuff in just a few hundred lines of Python
[12:03] <jml> I can't switch to my lucid schroot since upgrading to precise
[12:03] <jml> $ schroot -c lucid-amd64
[12:03] <jml> E: 10mount: mount: unknown filesystem type 'aufs'
[12:03] <jml> E: lucid-amd64-2cb56580-9dfe-41be-a214-44663808dca9: Chroot setup failed: stage=setup-start
[12:03] <TiMiDo> yeah mok0
[12:03] <TiMiDo> mok0, where ya from?
[12:04] <mok0> TiMiDo: Aarhus, Denmark
[12:04] <TiMiDo> let me guess germany?
[12:04] <cjwatson> jml: you may need to switch union-type to overlayfs
[12:04] <TiMiDo> oh nice ;)
[12:04] <mok0> TiMiDo: Close but no cigar :-)
[12:04]  * TiMiDo from Miami Florida
[12:04] <cjwatson> jml: and possibly amend union-mount-options
[12:04] <mok0> TiMiDo: what are you doing in front of the computer :-)
[12:05] <mok0> TiMiDo: get out and fight some alligators
[12:05] <TiMiDo> hahahaha yeah
[12:05] <mok0> :-)
[12:05] <TiMiDo> i was creating a small plugin for audacious
[12:05] <jml> cjwatson: thanks. will try that.
[12:05] <TiMiDo> that can control eq's at the same time some pitching libraries is not bad.
[12:06] <mok0> TiMiDo: nice
[12:06] <TiMiDo> man i feel like taking a small trip to Europe
[12:06] <TiMiDo> i need some vacations.
[12:08] <cjwatson> jml: we're probably stuck with this kind of thing until such time as one of the union filesystems actually makes it upstream; overlayfs is the most plausible candidate right now, I think
[12:16] <jml> cjwatson: changing union-type fixes the issue, thanks.
[12:17] <cjwatson> you're welcome.  (I don't use unioning with schroot as yet so hadn't noticed that myself.)
[12:18] <cjwatson> I ought to sort out moving from pbuilder to sbuild, which would benefit from union-mounting.
[12:46] <jml> cjwatson: Well, essentially all I did was run mk-sbuild in relative ignorance, in an attempt to get set up for backporting things to lucid
[14:12] <kirkland> pitti: howdy
[14:20] <doko> pitti: packages like magics++ still ftbfs :-/
[14:20] <pitti> doko: yes, on ppc :(
[14:21] <doko> and arm*
[14:24] <doko> pitti: so the archive (at least main) should be in a pretty consistent shape?
[14:25] <pitti> it is right now; I hope it doesn't completely fall apart over the holidays
[16:08] <wip> Does gtk_status_icon_new still works on Unity?
[16:08] <wip> the new indicator (blacklist / whitelist) is causing me trouble with wxWidgets applications
[16:08] <wip> see http://groups.google.com/group/wx-users/browse_thread/thread/e688d6d188003f87 for an explanationb
[17:20] <doko> tgall_foo, pitti: please see https://launchpad.net/~doko/+archive/toolchain for the libjpeg-turbo and libjpeg8-empty packages
[17:20] <tgall_foo> doko, great thanks
[17:20] <doko> updates work for me, and the system doesn't explode, but I'd like you to verify
[17:20] <tgall_foo> shall do
[17:22] <slangasek> pitti: are you planning to take care of the libverto build-dep switch?
[17:48] <pitti> doko: trying now; why do we need -empty, though?
[17:49] <pitti> slangasek: it's a little more than just the b-dep switch; it needs some packaging changes, build a new binary, drop the old one, and then test krb5 against that
[17:49] <pitti> slangasek: as I'm on holiday, and AFK from tomorrow on, I can do it in January, but not this week any more
[17:49] <slangasek> pitti: are you sure that changing the build-dep changes the ABI of libverto itself?
[17:49] <pitti> still need to get the new lucid/maverick langpacks settled with micag, so no promises for this year
[17:50] <pitti> slangasek: I hope it won't
[17:50] <slangasek> pitti: anyway, if you're not taking it that's perfectly fine, krb5 wasn't actually an autosync but a sync I did manually so I bear some responsibility ;)
[17:50] <doko> pitti: this source package defines the libjpeg8* dependency packages; didn't want to change libjpeg8 yet, in case we have to revert the change. with this setup, we can just re-upload libjpeg8, and remove libjpeg8-turbo
[17:50] <slangasek> right; if it doesn't change libverto's ABI, then no need to change the package names
[17:50] <pitti> slangasek: but I'd at least build krb5 against it and see whether it runs some tests, etc.
[17:50] <slangasek> sure
[17:50] <slangasek> or I could just build krb5 against it, install it, and check whether my entire home network falls apart ;)
[17:50] <pitti> slangasek: well, it currently builds libverto-libev and libverto-libglib variants; I suppose it should build a libverto-libevent variant then
[17:51] <slangasek> I look into it
[17:51] <slangasek> I'll
[17:51] <pitti> I have NFC about the package, so it might be that you need to specify the backend in some constructor call or what not
[17:51]  * slangasek suppresses his inner Russian
[17:52] <pitti> doko: I installed libjpeg-turbo8 now, and at least eog foo.jpg still works; but I notice it doesn't divert the original library, so if I'd purge -turbo again my system will be hosed
[17:52] <pitti> doko: do you still plan to add that?
[17:52]  * pitti reboots in the meantime to test it more system-wide
[17:53] <doko> pitti, no, therefore the dependency package. the diversion is gone
[17:54] <pitti> doko: what's wrong with the diversion? I don't see how the dependency package will fix that
[17:55] <pitti> doko: anyway, I still see icons and background images, etc., so it seems to work here
[17:56] <doko> pitti, wasted space, and afaicr cjwatson_ argued against using the diversion
[17:56] <pitti> well, in this case I think we should really just apply the patch to libjpeg itself
[17:56] <pitti> because this just breaks libjpeg8
[17:57] <pitti> phone, bbl
[17:57] <doko> pitti, why should it break?
[17:58] <pitti> you can't remove libjpeg-turbo8 any more (but nothing in the packaging system stops you from it)
[17:58] <pitti> no biggie, but just want to mention it
[17:59] <pitti> I apt-get install --reinstall libjpeg8 now, so it's fine
[17:59] <doko> well, ok. I'll add a dependency on the new libjpeg8
[18:10] <broder> jml: fyi, mdeslaur patched mk-sbuild to use overlayfs as of u-d-t 0.136, so new chroots should use it
[18:11] <broder> mdeslaur: do you think it makes sense for, say, an schroot postinst to try and migrate aufs chroots to overlayfs?
[18:12] <jml> broder: good to know, thanks.
[18:14] <mdeslaur> broder: hrm, maybe...I don't have a strong opinion, it's users are typically power users anyway
[18:17] <mdeslaur> broder: it currently probes the running kernel to decide on overlayfs vs. aufs, so the postinst would need to do that too I guess
[18:18] <broder> hmm...maybe the better solution would be to have a "union-type=default" or something and have schroot pick the right one for the system
[18:18] <slangasek> blast, the patch in bug #874774 isn't even addressing the right bug
[18:18] <broder> that + a useful error if you set union-type={aufs,overlayfs} and it can't start because the fs isn't available
[18:23] <tumbleweed> broder: yeah, the probing was a quick hack
[18:23] <tumbleweed> (debian doesn't have overlayfs yet)
[18:24] <broder> right, but as jml pointed out, the upgrade experience kind of sucks atm
[18:24] <cjwatson> sbuild.postinst doesn't work well as a place for it, because you might upgrade sbuild then the kernel
[18:24] <cjwatson> in fact you probably will in a one-shot upgrade
[18:24] <cjwatson> (I mean, upgrade sbuild then reboot into the new kernel)
[18:25] <tumbleweed> cjwatson: see broder's next suggestion
[18:25] <cjwatson> yes, that would work better
[18:26] <tumbleweed> of course, for sbuild chroots, the easiest upgrade path is to blow them away and rebuild them
[18:26] <broder> yeah, i think this is actually pretty simple - you need to change the C++ verification code to accept union-type=auto, but after that i think you can do everything from /etc/schroot/setup.d/10mount
[18:27] <broder> tumbleweed: sed -i -e 's/union-type=aufs/union-type=overlayfs/g' /etc/schroot/chroot.d/* is pretty easy
[18:27] <dobey> will there be a DMB meeting on jan 2?
[18:27] <tumbleweed> broder: oh, that too :P
[18:27] <tumbleweed> dobey: we've said "if enough people turn up, and it sounds likely"
[18:27] <tumbleweed> err s/,/",/
[18:28] <broder> i'm planning to sign up for the 1/2 meeting, since the alternative is waiting 2 weeks *and* having to be awake at 6 AM my time :)
[18:29] <dobey> tumbleweed: well, i'm about to propose a new delegated team for ubuntuone related packages, so would like to get through that process as quickly as possible to make things work more smoothly :)
[18:32] <tumbleweed> dobey: that'd be a new packageset, right?
[18:32] <dobey> yes
[18:32] <tumbleweed> send a mail, and the discussion can begin
[18:33] <dobey> yeah, was planning on that; just wanted to make sure of when i need to be on IRC, since the wiki page says "DMB, at its next meeting…" :)
[18:56] <infinity> mvo: I should learn to just never give you ideas, shouldn't I?
[18:56] <infinity> mvo: I think you ruined my holidays by automating that hack. ;)
[19:50] <mvo> infinity: ahaha
[19:50] <mvo> infinity: I like it
[19:50] <mvo> infinity: (sort of ;)
[21:06] <doko> cyphermox, you synced libnl3 without providing a MIR for xmlstarlet
[21:08] <stgraber> doko: bug 906982
[21:09] <doko> stgraber, hmm, I didn't get the ubuntu-mir email ...
[21:11] <cyphermox> doko: sorry, had missed that xmlstarlet, I created the mir as soon as I found out (then spoke to jdstrand since there were cves for xmlstarlet in the past)
[21:46] <lumio> hello… there seems to be a bug in ubuntu 11.10 with unity: when I press the super-key aka win-key when the screen is locket, the unity interface appears. I won't be able to click anything, but I can see what apps are open and of course the unity menu
[21:59] <broder> mvo: ping? vmware-view-client shows up in software-center for me, but it's not multiarch installable to amd64 on oneiric
[22:00] <mvo> broder: and you run a amd64 system?
[22:00] <broder> yeah
[22:00] <broder> it complains about libpcsclite1:i386, libxml2:i386, libxtst6:i386, and zenity:i386
[22:00] <mvo> broder: right - you have partner already enabled, correct?
[22:00] <broder> yep (i turned it on from s-c, which was pretty slick, btw)
[22:01] <mvo> broder: glad to hear (that it was slick)
[22:01] <broder> ...oh wait...maybe not?
[22:01] <broder> ah yes - it's there
[22:02] <broder> http://paste.ubuntu.com/776841/
[22:02] <slangasek> broder: I guess the point is that software-center should suppress the display of the package on amd64, since the deps are not multiarch-ready in oneiric?
[22:02] <broder> that's probably the best solution at this point
[22:03] <broder> though offering an amd64 build would be a nice alternative
[22:03] <mvo> slangasek: yeah, I think that is the best option for now, we are in contact about a amd64 build, but I haven't heard back yet
[22:03] <mvo> broder: --^
[22:03]  * broder nods
[22:04] <mvo> but I need to call it a day for now, its rather late here
[22:04]  * mvo aves
[22:04]  * mvo waves
[22:04] <broder> mvo: do you want me to file a bug somewhere so you don't forget?
[22:04] <mvo> broder: please do!
[22:04] <broder> where would you like it?
[22:04] <mvo> broder: and assign to me please
[22:05] <mvo> broder: software-center
[22:05] <mvo> please
[22:05] <broder> kk
[22:05] <mvo> thanks!
[22:15] <slangasek>  vmware-view-client:i386 : Depends: libpcsclite1:i386 but it is not going to be installed
[22:15] <slangasek>                            Depends: zenity:i386 but it is not going to be installed
[22:15] <slangasek> aw, still not installable on precise either
[22:15] <broder> zenity is clearly bogus
[22:16] <slangasek> well, it needs to be marked M-A: foreign
[22:16] <broder> (i.e. should be m-a: foreign)
[22:16]  * slangasek nods
[22:16] <broder> pcsclite could be tricky because i believe it communicates with a separate daemon
[22:16] <slangasek> s/tricky/fun for broder/
[22:16] <broder> <3 you too, slangasek :-P
[22:16] <slangasek> :)
[22:18] <slangasek> well, there are only 17 packages left for ia32-libs, so we'll have to find *some*thing to keep you entertained in the new year
[22:23] <broder> well, it looks like the protocol is bittedness agnostic. not sure yet if it's endianness agnostic, though
[22:24] <broder> looks like it's almost certainly not
[22:25] <broder> is that considered a blocker for multiarch?
[22:29] <infinity> Ick, endian-specific protocols?  Fix, fix!
[22:29] <infinity> Didn't even dbus learn that lesson and fix its issues?
[22:30] <broder> well, more "moderately ad-hoc protocol consisting of shoving structs into sockets"
[22:30]  * infinity shivers.
[22:30] <infinity> That could end up being even arch-specific, let alone endian-specific.
[22:31] <broder> it's not arch-specific - the struct headers all use uint32_t et al.
[22:31] <infinity> Ahh.
[22:34] <broder> but the members of the struct are assigned to without any endianness conversion
[22:35] <RAOF> There's no guarantee that the stucture packing is consistent across archs, either, is there?
[22:36]  * RAOF discovers the --eatmydata option to mk-sbuild.  Joy!
[22:37] <broder> oh yeah, you might be right
[22:38] <RAOF> C structs as your IPC protocol: Just Say No :)
[22:39] <ajmitch> RAOF: let's use XML instead? :)
[22:39] <RAOF> Yes!
[22:39] <dobey> you could use JSON; where everything is a C struct defined by string literals :)


[00:02] <txwikinger> somebody with QA-rights here?
[00:16] <ubotu> New bug: #175199 in evolution-exchange (main) "evolution-exchange source hard to build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175199
[00:17] <txwikinger> ping nixternal
[00:21] <ubotu> New bug: #175200 in ubuntu "Intel 4965AGN, wifi crashes network manager under 64 bit Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175200
[00:21] <ubotu> New bug: #175201 in ubuntu "after last update flash not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175201
[00:22] <nixternal> txwikinger: pong?
[00:24] <poningru> hey guys running latest hardy, cant install mplayer, it depends on libx264-54 but the package does not exist
[00:24] <poningru> instead libx264-56 exists
[00:24] <poningru> is this a known problem?
[00:24] <txwikinger> Hi nixternal
[00:25] <nixternal> howdy
[00:25] <poningru> can I just fix it and submit the fix?
[00:25] <txwikinger> Can you give me a favour and put Bug #131606 to wishlist?
[00:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 131606 in kdepim "kAlarm fails to start in Ubuntu 6.10" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131606
[00:25] <txwikinger> It is a KDE-app, works perfect on KDE
[00:25] <txwikinger> request is that it is in the gnome menu
[00:26] <ubotu> New bug: #175202 in gnotime (universe) "(Gutsy) gnotime: tree item drag-and-drop bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175202
[00:26] <nixternal> txwikinger: done
[00:26] <txwikinger> thanks nixternal
[00:26] <nixternal> no problem
[00:40] <ubotu> New bug: #175203 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice.org crash on oo-cd-cover.odg example" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175203
[00:40] <ubotu> New bug: #175204 in ubuntu "[Gutsy] alsa 1.0.15 not working on ALC268" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175204
[00:45] <ubotu> New bug: #175205 in skencil (universe) "skencil aborted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175205
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #175206 in debian-installer (main) "doesn't boot de cdromupgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175206
[01:42] <ubotu> New bug: #175208 in ubuntu "Kubuntu 7.10, Desktop Icons Shift (Multiple Panel Issue?)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175208
[01:56] <ubotu> New bug: #175209 in ubuntu "High CPU usage during the first boot after installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175209
[01:56] <ubotu> New bug: #175211 in ubuntu "Konqueror Multiple Empty Tabs From External Link" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175211
[01:56] <ubotu> New bug: #175212 in ubiquity (main) "Startup music plays during installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175212
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #175219 in solarwolf (universe) "Solarwolf begins in fullscreen mode; squashes gnome panel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175219
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #175220 in bash (main) "Gutsy] bash completion does not include cbr/cbz files for evince" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175220
[02:57] <ubotu> New bug: #175223 in xubuntu-meta (main) "No synaptics controls in xubuntu mouse preferences" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175223
[03:12] <CarlFK> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=python-django
[03:12] <CarlFK> lists usr/share/doc/python-django/examples/__init__.py
[03:12] <CarlFK> but it doesn't get installed
[03:12] <CarlFK> how is that possible?
[03:17] <crimsun> hmm?
[03:17] <crimsun> `dpkg-deb -c python-django_0.96.1-1_all.deb` reveals no such file
[03:19] <CarlFK> well, it should be there, and it is on the page
[03:19] <crimsun> I'm referring to hardy's, not gutsy's
[03:22] <CarlFK> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/python/python-django  no current information available
[03:22] <CarlFK> for files
[03:22] <crimsun> don't rely on packages.uc; it's only updated twice daily.
[03:22] <crimsun> the canonical source is launchpad
[03:23] <crimsun> $ dpkg-deb -c python-django_0.96-1ubuntu0.1_all.deb|grep examples|grep '__init__'|wc -l
[03:23] <crimsun> 0
[03:23] <crimsun> there.  That's as definitive as it gets.
[03:23] <CarlFK> well, it 'should' be included
[03:23] <crimsun> There's no such path in the gutsy-{updates,securiyt} package.
[03:23] <CarlFK> looks like it was, then the file fell out
[03:24] <crimsun> how would the file "fall out"?
[03:24] <CarlFK> someone saw a 0 byte file and thought "oh, I should put this in /trash" :)
[03:27] <CarlFK> http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/django/trunk/files/vcs-imports%40canonical.com-20071209101856-n7t2yzgxd1yjqomp?file_id=examples-20070301170415-3fa0d70bi1vhklia-977
[03:27] <CarlFK>    __init__.py is listed
[03:28] <CarlFK> examples/hello/__init__.py is missing too
[03:29] <CarlFK> well, it is in LP, and not in yours or my .deb
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #175225 in ubuntu "Gutsy broken after upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175225
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #175226 in nfs-utils (main) "Starting nfs-common and nfs-kernel-daemon hangs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175226
[03:35] <crimsun> CarlFK: it's not whitelisted for installation.
[03:36] <crimsun> see debian/install
[03:45] <CarlFK> http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/django/trunk/files
[03:45] <CarlFK> where is debian/install  ?
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #175227 in linux-source-2.6.22 "2.6.22-14-rt halts during boot on some computers, without the nosmp  noapic nolapic kernel options" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175227
[03:55] <RAOF> CarlFK: debian/install will be in the Ubuntu packaging, not upstream.
[03:57] <CarlFK> RAOF: shouldn't it be in some source control where I can look at it?
[03:57] <RAOF> Um, maybe?
[03:58] <CarlFK> kinda hard to report a bug when I can't see what I am reporting on :)
[03:58] <RAOF> Is the packaging maintianed in a VCS?  Not many are - the vast majority of debian (and hence Ubuntu) packages aren't VCS'd.
[03:58] <RAOF> CarlFK: What is the actual bug?
[03:58] <CarlFK> __init__.py isn't installed
[03:58] <RAOF> AKA: what doesn't work :)
[03:59] <RAOF> Right.  So, that's a bug in the packaging.
[03:59] <CarlFK> agree
[03:59] <RAOF> Simply filing a bug against the Ubuntu package saying "foo/__init__.py" isn't installed, breaks bar is a correct first step.
[04:00] <CarlFK> good point - I was trying to figure out why
[04:01] <RAOF> A good second step would be to grab the source package (apt-get source foo), fixing it so that foo/__init__.py is installed and attaching the diff.
[04:01] <RAOF> The probable reason why will be that foo/__init__.py is not in the list of files to be installed in the deb.
[04:01] <RAOF> Another possible reason is that the upstream setup.py is broken, but that's less likely.
[04:01] <CarlFK> yeah- thought maybe there would be a comment explaining why it was left out
[04:02] <RAOF> Oversight, most likely.
[04:02] <RAOF> People generally don't deliberately introduce bugs :)
[04:02] <CarlFK> lol
[04:04] <crimsun> the reason, as I stated above, is that the files you want are not listed in debian/install
[04:05] <crimsun> (sorry, been trimming the feline's claws)
[04:05] <CarlFK> crimsun: nothing personal, I just try to verify what ever I am post in a bug report
[04:06] <CarlFK> at this point, I would just cut/paste your IRC comment, which I am sure would be good enugh
[04:07] <RAOF> Hey crimsun.  My PCM mixer now works with pulseaudio for some reason :).
[04:07]  * RAOF welcomes his new PulseAudio overlords.
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #175229 in gnome-terminal (main) "E: couldn't find package dosemu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175229
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #175230 in python-django (universe) "__init__.py missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175230
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #175233 in evolution (main) "evolution hangs after several hours" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175233
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #175236 in update-manager (main) "package update-manager 1:0.81 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:Sub-process /tmp/tmpHOlBG3/backports/usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175236
[05:32] <CarlFK> if those __init__.py files dot exist, it causes a Segmentation fault
[05:33] <CarlFK> I think that is a seperate error against either apache or mod_python
[05:35]  * RAOF wonders how missing __init__.py files could cause a segfault.  They'll certainly prevent the import of the relevant modules, but a segfault?
[05:38] <persia> Perhaps an issue with the client not checking the import before using the module?
[05:39] <RAOF> Possibly.  But that would normally just raise a python exception.
[05:39] <CarlFK> a simple repo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Django
[05:40] <RAOF> I suppose the client could actually be implementing a python interpreter, and not handle that error-case nicely.
[05:40] <CarlFK> I'll file against libapache2-mod-python
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #175237 in ubuntu "Gnome startup opens all sessions on desk 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175237
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #175238 in hotkey-setup (main) "nothing happens when the power button is pressed on ThinkPad X61" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175238
[06:11] <ubotu> New bug: #175239 in libapache2-mod-python (main) "missing __init__.py = segfault" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175239
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #175240 in gnome-system-tools (main) "[8.04 alpha1] time-admin does not allow "unlocking" when launched from panel applet" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175240
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #175243 in ubuntu "screen flickers only if text tty entered (radeon)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175243
[07:01] <ubotu> New bug: #174912 in tracker (main) "tracker-extract crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174912
[07:05] <dholbach> good morning
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #175248 in zile (universe) "Zile resetsXTerm metaSendsEscape resource" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175248
[07:34] <kagou> Good morning
[08:06] <gary4gar> what information do i need to give in Bug #172622 and how?
[08:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 172622 in gnome-media "Invalid audio capture settings in gnome-sound-recorder" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172622
[08:07] <persia> !audio
[08:07] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:08] <persia> gary4gar: The SoundTroubleshooting link above should have some hints.  There was a script: looking...
[08:09] <gary4gar> persia, also i have reported this bug when i was using gutsy, now i am on hardy
[08:09] <gary4gar> and AFAIK hardy uses pulse
[08:09] <persia> gary4gar: Already?  You're brave :)
[08:10] <gary4gar> pluse is really good
[08:10] <gary4gar> i love bugs
[08:10] <persia> gary4gar: Troubleshooting script is http://www.trilug.org/~crimsun/alsa-info.sh (and yes, I agree pulse is really good)
[08:10] <gary4gar> persia, is there any use running this script?
[08:11] <gary4gar> as i am on hary?
[08:11] <gary4gar> *hardy*
[08:11] <persia> gary4gar: Does it work in hardy?
[08:12] <gary4gar> yes :D
[08:12] <persia> gary4gar: Then you have a choice: you can troubleshoot it in gutsy, and try to get a fix for gutsy users, or set to "Fix Released" and report that it works in hardy, and why.
[08:14] <gary4gar> i am using pulse audio sound server so its working, should i try it with choosing ALSA?
[08:15] <persia> gary4gar: You could: if you can break it that way, perhaps it's worth fixing.  If it works by default, then maybe it's not very important.
[08:17] <gary4gar> Bug #172622,
[08:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 172622 in gnome-media "Invalid audio capture settings in gnome-sound-recorder" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172622
[08:18] <gary4gar> i reported it working in hardy
[08:19] <gary4gar> whats should be done with this: Bug #113237
[08:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 113237 in ubiquity "install session in ubuntu 7.04 hangs at 15%" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113237
[08:22] <persia> gary4gar: If you can break your system again, and figure out why it didn't work, that would help.  The hard part is figuring out which initial disk state causes that, and why (which may require some digging into the ubiquity internals).  With the current information, it's a little hard to figure out why it didn't work.
[08:31] <gary4gar> persia, i don't won't to go back to 7.04 now, so declared Bug #113237 as invalid
[08:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 113237 in ubiquity "install session in ubuntu 7.04 hangs at 15%" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113237
[08:32] <persia> gary4gar: That works.  It would be "Incomplete", but as you're not planning to complete it "Invalid" is correct.  Thanks for keeping your bugs up to date :)
[08:36] <ubotu> New bug: #175252 in gnome-applets (main) "missing translation files in rosetta" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175252
[08:36] <ubotu> New bug: #175253 in ubuntu "[ZIP] incomplete multiple archives - incorrectly ask for password" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175253
[08:36] <ubotu> New bug: #175254 in ubuntu "snd-hda-intel ICH8 (rev03) - HD Audio stops working after booting win xp" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175254
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #175255 in apt (main) "False success installing a packet when MD5sum mismatched" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175255
[09:00] <ubotu> New bug: #175258 in thunderbird (main) "doesn't cancel old news posts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175258
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #175263 in razor (universe) "cannot report to Razor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175263
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #175268 in yelp (main) "serpentine do not open." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175268
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #175269 in serpentine (main) "serpentine do not open." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175269
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #175273 in mjpegtools (multiverse) "Conflicting type definition in mjpeg_types.h" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175273
[10:56] <ubotu> New bug: #175274 in flac (main) "libFLAC is vulnerable , 3 bugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175274
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #175275 in ubuntu "Clock goes back one hour after resume" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175275
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #175272 in totem (main) "totem-plugin-viewer crashed with SIGSEGV in mms_connect()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175272
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #174969 in nautilus (main) "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_free_chain_with_offset() when expanding directory" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174969
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #174974 in nautilus (main) "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in g_return_if_fail_warning()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174974
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #175027 in totem (main) "totem-video-thumbnailer crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175027
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #175099 in gnome-control-center (main) "gnome-appearance-properties crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175099
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #175280 in nautilus (main) "[Gutsy] No border around .dvi preview in Nautilus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175280
[12:01] <ubotu> New bug: #175286 in mozilla-firefox "Feature request: save files read-only when invoking external viewers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175286
[12:02] <ubotu> New bug: #174870 in vino (main) "vino-server crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174870
[12:02] <ubotu> New bug: #174915 in gnome-system-tools (main) "users-admin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174915
[12:02] <ubotu> New bug: #175281 in evince (main) "[Gutsy] I can't print-preview a .dvi file with whitespaces in its name" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175281
[12:02] <ubotu> New bug: #175282 in cryptsetup (main) "Backspace/delete problem at boot-time entering hard disk encryption password" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175282
[12:02] <ubotu> New bug: #175283 in bacula (universe) "init script name breaks Webmin control" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175283
[12:02] <ubotu> New bug: #175284 in amule (universe) "amule crashes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175284
[12:02] <ubotu> New bug: #175285 in gnome-panel (main) "window list should not minimize" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175285
[12:07] <ubotu> New bug: #175287 in slocate (main) "package slocate 3.1-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: il sottoprocesso pre-installation script ha restituito un codice di errore 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175287
[12:32] <ubotu> New bug: #175288 in gnome-keyring (main) "[Hardy] SSH key kept unlock after usage" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175288
[13:05] <ubotu> New bug: #175291 in dkim-milter (universe) "Ubuntu specific change not documented in debian/changelog" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175291
[13:05] <ubotu> New bug: #175292 in banshee-official-plugins (universe) "Banshee quits when AWN quits. Could it be a problem with the AWN plugin?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175292
[13:11] <ubotu> New bug: #175293 in firefox (main) "minimize doesn't work in fullscreen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175293
[13:25] <ubotu> New bug: #175294 in squid (main) "squid fetches entire files when it shouldn't" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175294
[13:47] <Hobbsee> !sru
[13:47] <ubotu> Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[13:54]  * Kirrus does not like the SRU wikipage
[13:54] <Kirrus> Very confusing about Universe packages...
[13:55] <ubotu> New bug: #175297 in munin (universe) "system filesystems are logged within munin" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175297
[13:57] <persia> Kirrus: Sorry about that.  A new team has just been appointed to look into that, and get it organised and sensible.  Should only be a couple more weeks.
[13:58] <Kirrus> persia, Yay! :)
[14:14] <ubotu> New bug: #175300 in tvtime (universe) "tvtime causes xorg to freeze" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175300
[14:14] <ubotu> New bug: #175301 in initramfs-tools (main) "update-initramfs doesn't pass in the ROOT info to mkinitramfs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175301
[14:40] <ubotu> New bug: #175304 in ubuntu "iwlwifi 1.2.0 has noisy log for unknown RX WEP key index." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175304
[14:51] <ubotu> New bug: #175305 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Fontmatrix" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175305
[14:56] <ubotu> New bug: #175306 in ubuntu "Please sponsor giggle_0.4 into Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175306
[15:25] <ubotu> New bug: #175308 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "flashplugin-nonfree will no longer install, again :)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175308
[15:30] <ubotu> New bug: #175309 in synaptic (main) "Package groups listed out of order" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175309
[15:36] <ubotu> New bug: #175310 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "cpufreq sets wrong limit frequencies" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175310
[15:36] <ubotu> New bug: #175311 in openoffice.org2 "When a partly transparent gradient is used for the Area fill in a rectangle Shape, the entire fill disappears in slideshow mode. " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175311
[15:41] <ubotu> New bug: #175312 in firefox (main) "language priority doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175312
[15:41] <ubotu> New bug: #175313 in vlc (universe) "gui is unretrivable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175313
[15:55] <ubotu> New bug: #175314 in smart (universe) "Please sync smart 0.50~rc1-1  (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175314
[16:15] <ubotu> New bug: #175316 in bind9 (main) "no IDN in nslookup and host" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175316
[16:20] <ubotu> New bug: #175317 in libnfsidmap (main) "[libnfsidmap] [CVE-2007-4135] translation flaw in name lookups" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175317
[16:21] <ubotu> New bug: #175318 in gnome-nettool (main) "no IDN-support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175318
[16:26] <ubotu> New bug: #175319 in sitebar (universe) "[sitebar] Several remote vulnerabilities" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175319
[16:31] <ubotu> New bug: #175321 in gnome-screensaver (main) "slideshow screensaver makes X to crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175321
[16:31] <ubotu> New bug: #175322 in cameleon (universe) "cameleon doesn't start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175322
[16:31] <ubotu> New bug: #175323 in openoffice.org (main) "inserting pics into writer, the pics get in the writer file get garbled." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175323
[16:42] <ubotu> New bug: #175324 in klibc (main) "Klibc: ipconfig fails on network with DHCP relays" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175324
[17:16] <ubotu> New bug: #175326 in network-manager (main) "Networking sets up a default route to every interface" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175326
[17:16] <ubotu> New bug: #175327 in gnome-app-install (main) "gnome-app-install crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175327
[17:21] <ubotu> New bug: #175328 in slim (universe) "When starting with slim I have no fglrx-driver but just mesa" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175328
[17:27] <RainCT> ogasawara: hi! regarding bug 159733, I'll check later but I think I don't have that USB setting (the same model shipped some months later has it)
[17:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 159733 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Dell Dimension 2400 - Gutsy fails to reboot" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159733
[17:28] <ogasawara> RainCT:  ok thanks.  I wasn't sure if it would help or not.
[17:42] <ubotu> New bug: #175329 in dmraid (universe) "dmraid lies sich nicht installieren oder aktualisieren" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175329
[17:50] <ubotu> New bug: #175320 in telepathy-salut (universe) "telepathy-salut crashed with SIGSEGV in g_closure_invoke()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175320
[17:50] <ubotu> New bug: #175331 in ubuntu "Alsa Kernel oops with 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175331
[17:50] <ubotu> New bug: #175332 in firefox (main) "firefox <IP_ADDRESS> crashes when open Chinese websites in Gusty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175332
[17:56] <ubotu> New bug: #175333 in ubuntu "first eth device gets new number on resume" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175333
[17:56] <ubotu> New bug: #175334 in ghex (universe) "Please sponsor ghex_2.20.1 to Hardy " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175334
[17:56] <ubotu> New bug: #175335 in openoffice.org (main) "spreadsheet macros are very slow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175335
[17:56] <ubotu> New bug: #175336 in qtparted (main) "Candidate for version 0.4.5-2ubuntu13" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175336
[18:06] <ubotu> New bug: #175338 in ubuntu "can't set ntfs partition to read only" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175338
[18:10] <ubotu> New bug: #175339 in initramfs-tools (main) "[patch] init should warn if unusable rootmnt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175339
[18:11] <hudyx> anyone know why my notebook would have problems going in and coming out of suspend/hibernate?
[18:17] <ubotu> New bug: #175340 in ubuntu "Can't print at all to remote printer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175340
[18:20] <ubotu> New bug: #175341 in slocate (main) "package slocate 3.1-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175341
[18:33] <ubotu> New bug: #175343 in azureus (universe) "azureus crashes with a error in the JRE under Hardy." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175343
[18:33] <ubotu> New bug: #175344 in ntfs-3g (main) "Request ntfs-3g 1.1120 for Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175344
[18:47] <ubotu> New bug: #174715 in gnome-utils (main) "Re: System log closes when trying to view Apache2 logs" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174715
[18:47] <ubotu> New bug: #175347 in vim (main) "vim spellchecking disturbed by "ß"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175347
[18:51] <ubotu> New bug: #175348 in aiksaurus (main) "sync request" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175348
[18:51] <ubotu> New bug: #175350 in evolution (main) "Evolution, USENET news reappear as unread" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175350
[18:56] <ubotu> New bug: #175351 in python-django (universe) "django-admin.py not added to path" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175351
[18:56] <ubotu> New bug: #175353 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "No sound after gutsy upgrade rt kernel SB Live" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175353
[19:01] <ubotu> New bug: #175354 in nautilus (main) "nautilus'decoration disapperense" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175354
[19:06] <ubotu> New bug: #175355 in python-django (universe) "django-admin.py not executable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175355
[19:06] <ubotu> New bug: #175356 in kdegraphics-kde4 (universe) "okular (kde4) "Unable to find okular part"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175356
[19:11] <ubotu> New bug: #175357 in totem (main) "No image with totem " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175357
[19:25] <ubotu> New bug: #175358 in ubuntu "Gusty don't detect 1.3 Mp LG smart cam integrated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175358
[19:31] <ubotu> New bug: #175360 in firefox (main) "StartCom CA Cert Missing in Firefox Package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175360
[19:31] <ubotu> New bug: #175361 in esmtp (universe) "segfault while sending mail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175361
[19:31] <ubotu> New bug: #175362 in firefox (main) "Firefox can't use installed Adobe Flash player" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175362
[19:31] <ubotu> New bug: #175365 in nautilus (main) "Templates not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175365
[19:45] <ubotu> New bug: #175367 in ubuntu "n100 lenovo i lose wireless connection many times some time i need to reboot the computer to make the wireless work again  " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175367
[19:46] <bddebian> Boo
[19:59] <ubotu> New bug: #175368 in langpack-locales (main) "Add Myanmar my-MM locale (needs Unicode 5.1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175368
[20:05] <ubotu> New bug: #175371 in update-manager (main) "Adept crashed in first big update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175371
[20:08] <greg-g> question: how do I request a sync to a newer version when the newer version of a package from upstream (debian is also behind)?
[20:09] <greg-g> (a newer version of a lib that fixes at least one bug)
[20:09] <pochu> Report a bug and tag it 'upgrade'
[20:10] <pochu> That's not a sync though. Syncs are from Debian.
[20:10] <greg-g> and just have "new version in upstream fixes bug#"
[20:10] <pochu> That would work, yes.
[20:10] <greg-g> in the description
[20:10] <pochu> What library is it?
[20:10] <greg-g> libamazon-ruby
[20:11] <greg-g> fixes a bug in Alexandria (a book collection manager in gnome)
[20:11] <greg-g> (well, a bug in libamazon, but manifested in alexandria)
[20:12] <greg-g> thanks for the clarification on sync vs upgrade
[20:12] <pochu> You might want to file it in Debian too. Your chances of getting this packaged increase ;)
[20:13] <greg-g> I forwarded it to debian yes
[20:13] <greg-g> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=455148
[20:13] <ubotu> Debian bug 455148 in libamazon-ruby "Amazon changed API - developerKeys no longer valid!" [Important,Open]
[20:14] <greg-g> and in that bug report I put a link to the upstream bug tracker where the upstream developers have updated .debs and "files needed to upgrade from source" for maintainers
[20:15] <greg-g> so I guess I should just wait for the debian maintainer to upgrade then request a sync in Ubuntu
[20:15] <ubotu> New bug: #175374 in gnome-keyring-manager (main) "Portachiavi non tiene la pasword" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175374
[20:16] <ubotu> New bug: #175375 in update-manager (main) "package update-manager 1:0.86 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175375
[20:21] <ubotu> New bug: #175376 in evolution (main) "Broken pipe freezes Evolution (IMAP related possibly)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175376
[20:21] <ubotu> New bug: #175377 in ubuntu "System crash / Power OFF" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175377
[20:31] <ubotu> New bug: #175380 in devede (multiverse) "Please sponsor devede_3.5 into Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175380
[20:36] <ubotu> New bug: #175381 in ubuntu "Gnash + Abode video dailymotion wait and dont start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175381
[20:41] <ubotu> New bug: #175383 in kde-systemsettings (main) "System Settings app doesn't honour icon launch settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175383
[20:41] <ubotu> New bug: #175384 in listen (universe) "Listen crash when I try to change song in a personal playlist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175384
[20:41] <ubotu> New bug: #175386 in ubuntu "[needs packaging] qpspmanager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175386
[20:44] <warp10> Hi all!
[20:50] <ubotu> New bug: #175389 in kdebase-kde4 (universe) "package kdebase-data-kde4 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.kde.FavIcon.xml', which is also in package konqueror-kde4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175389
[21:03] <ubotu> New bug: #175391 in pidgin (main) "error conection to server notification, writting error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175391
[21:25] <ubotu> New bug: #175394 in update-manager (main) "Wish: Indicate source of each upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175394
[21:30] <ubotu> New bug: #175395 in ubuntu "temporay X11 freeze with intel gm945" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175395
[21:40] <ubotu> New bug: #175396 in libgphoto2 (main) "package libgphoto2-2-dev 2.4.0-2ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libgphoto2_port/0.8.0/serial.la', which is also in package libgphoto2-port0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175396
[21:50] <ubotu> New bug: #175397 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus stays open after logout" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175397
[22:01] <ubotu> New bug: #175399 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] americasarmy-server" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175399
[22:01] <ubotu> New bug: #175400 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] americasarmy-full" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175400
[22:01] <ubotu> New bug: #175401 in gnome-panel (main) "window list should raise window" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175401
[22:05] <ubotu> New bug: #175402 in easycrypt (universe) "Candidate revision easycrypt_<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175402
[22:06] <ubotu> New bug: #175403 in evolution-exchange (main) "evolution crashes when attempting to authenticate with exchange server" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175403
[22:25] <ubotu> New bug: #175404 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Nemo" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175404
[22:31] <ubotu> New bug: #175405 in ubuntu "Ubuntu crashes when i install a self-made font" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175405
[22:41] <ubotu> New bug: #175406 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Boot failure with x86_64 kernel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175406
[23:10] <ubotu> New bug: #175411 in hal (main) "TrekStor Blaxx not recognized as portable audio player" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175411
[23:10] <ubotu> New bug: #175412 in knetworkmanager (main) "knetworkmanager won't connect if kwalletmanager hasn't been initialized" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175412
[23:43] <ubotu> New bug: #175414 in rhythmbox (main) "Cannot hide cover art" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175414
[23:50] <ubotu> New bug: #175418 in epiphany-browser (main) "each time I type the letter "r" in a form field in epiphany, a popup window appears "Eigenschaften von (properties of) [name of the web page]". Like about 8 times only when Ityped this bug message. How can I switch off this unwanted shortcut key?!" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175418
[23:55] <ubotu> New bug: #175421 in backupninja (universe) "Please sync backupninja 0.9.5-2  (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175421


[04:50] <bittin_> hello
[04:50] <bittin_> Watching the Indaba from yesterday on Youtube now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKCfIXlHXw4 as i did not have time to catch it live yesterday
[13:28] <bittin> Contiuned the Swedish translations of Ubuntu emojis today :)
[15:11] <bittin> https://github.com/milesj/emojibase/pull/106 94% done
[15:11] <ubot3> Pull 106 in milesj/emojibase "94% translated shortcodes.po into Swedish" [Open]
[15:11] <gitlab-bot> milesj issue (Pull request) 106 in emojibase "94% translated shortcodes.po into Swedish" [Open]
[16:05] <bittin> jamesh: do you have that github link for the desktop snap distro?
[16:06] <bittin> beta*


[11:51] <flocculant> ochosi: looked at gnome-software in a vm
[11:52] <flocculant> so we still appear to lose printer config
[11:54] <flocculant> installing it doesn't remove ubuntu software centre for us seemingly - not that it would be a problem, cos we'd only have 1 seeded


[00:10] <daftykins> it's way too quiet
[00:13] <Bashing-om> will the quiet record be broken ? That is the question .
[00:14] <daftykins> :)
[00:21] <Bashing-om> dont think " < headbanger> ciao " counts . Maybe a record here shortly ?
[00:22] <daftykins> most quiet night ever :D
[00:24] <Bashing-om> 9 more minutes .
[00:25] <OerHeks> silence before the storm?
[00:26] <Bashing-om> well .. we have beem flooded before . Sure gets the adreniline flowing when that happens .
[00:28] <OerHeks> oh, i havent watched a movie on this install, :-D
[00:28] <OerHeks> had to find sudo apt-get install libdvd-pkg for 15.10
[00:29]  * OerHeks feels busted
[00:29] <Bashing-om> depending on what I am installing .. the install os of the greater interest .
[00:30] <Bashing-om> quiet 45 minutes ! a Record ??
[00:32] <OerHeks> just the install, then the extra programs, and some tweak things like %D in the chatlog filename, that makes the date folders
[00:33] <Bashing-om> right thing at the right place in the given time .. keeps the blues at bay .
[00:43] <daftykins> OerHeks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt1bgsvsWms
[00:44] <OerHeks> hahaha
[02:35] <daftykins> nn all :)
[09:23] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> afternoon cfhowlett
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> hows the wallpaper contest going?
[11:39] <cfhowlett> 75 entries.  9 more hours until we get to voting
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> oh cool
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> whats the url again cfhowlett
[11:40] <cfhowlett> https://www.flickr.com/groups/ubuntustudiocreations/pool/
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: can non-members vote also?
[11:41] <cfhowlett> yep.  public voting
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: lets say i wanna vote for this: https://www.flickr.com/photos/creativelinux/24884064526/in/photostream/
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> wich button to vote?
[11:45] <Ben64> https://www.flickr.com/photos/creativelinux/24458446075/in/pool-ubuntustudiocreations/
[11:45] <Ben64> would be my choice
[11:46] <cfhowlett> as of tomorrow, I will activate a voting menu at http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/civs_create.html
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> AH COOL cfhowlett
[11:47] <cfhowlett> Ben64, I would have agreed with you, but this contest brought some outstanding possibilities!
[11:47] <Ben64> i'm a sucker for mostly black backgrounds
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> i love dark too and minimal
[11:48] <Ben64> i still need to make a background for my computer
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> i think a linux user is the most creative of all
[11:49] <Ben64> i think you have it backwards
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> those linux desktop screenshots are amazing always
[11:49] <Ben64> i think maybe creative people are drawn to linux
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> looll true
[11:52] <Ben64> : /
[11:52] <Ben64> can't find my old backgrounds
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> Ben64, cfhowlett
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> http://www.deviantart.com/browse/all/customization/screenshots/nix/
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> hows that for creativity
[11:53] <cfhowlett> nice!  there was/is an ubuntu art group in DA as well
[11:54] <cfhowlett> dark?  hmmm ... https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1537/24139986914_a462731e53_b.jpg
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> i keep forgeting those desktop linux sites
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: nice1
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: did you get voted for @ yet in studio?
[11:55] <cfhowlett> yeah, I requested input from the other *buntu teams.  Ubuntu Kylin delivered
[11:55] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, no voting until tomorrow ... about 8 hours;
[11:55] <Ben64> i'm sad, must have lost my old backgrounds in drive crash
[11:55] <BluesKaj> HI folks
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: no i mean for the studio channel @
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: can photorec help recover, or drive dead?
[11:55] <Ben64> back in like... 2002ish I rendered a n64 logo in POV-Ray
[11:56] <cfhowlett> ??? explain lotuspsychje ?
[11:56] <Ben64> all kinds of cool effects, took hours to render
[11:56] <Ben64> lotuspsychje: one drive totally dead, the other... i'm not done with it yet
[11:56] <Ben64> some firmware problem that seagate won't admit to
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: you remembered the irc mailing list voting for OPS right? your name was still on it for the ubuntu studio channel
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: bah, and seagate should be stable as rock
[11:57] <Ben64> pfft no
[11:57] <cfhowlett> ah!  right.  well, I never heard another word about so ... sniff sniff
[11:57] <Ben64> http://hackaday.com/2012/07/30/recovering-from-a-seagate-hdd-firmware-bug/
[11:58] <Ben64> got some important pics on that drive, hope i can get em back
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> kk
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> this one also nice for my ubuntu phone: http://www.mobileswall.com
[11:59] <Ben64> omg.... why haven't i put toast into my laser cutter yet
[11:59] <Ben64> i can draw jesus on it...
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> lol