[02:31] <captine> hi all.  something really wrong with empathy all of a sudden...  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5638924/
[02:31] <captine> 13.04
[04:29] <DJJeff> usr share menu errors http://pastie.org/pastes/7087233/text
[08:24] <peawormsworth> I think I see a bug in Unity. Where should I report it?
[08:24] <peawormsworth> * for raring.
[08:53] <bcbc2> peawormsworth: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+filebug
[08:54] <bcbc2> peawormsworth: or better: ubuntu-bug unity (so it collects your machine specs)
[08:55] <bcbc2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/FilingBugs
[08:56] <peawormsworth> bcbc2: thanks. but i dont think its machine specific. unity works fine, it just displays and incorrect icons in some cases. and i verified on 2 machines.
[08:57] <peawormsworth> thx for links.
[08:58] <bcbc2> peawormsworth: it's easier to let the tool collect the data upfront than having to go back and get it. But either way...
[13:15] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:44] <shock_one> Hi, guys. Which utility does Ubuntu (13.04) use for suspend to RAM?
[14:02] <Naruto_Xboy> heloo
[14:02] <Naruto_Xboy> hello
[14:02] <dveim> after another update, i got this message : failed to idle channel 0xcccc0000
[14:02] <Naruto_Xboy> nvidia card problem on 13.04 beta on my laptop. Who can help me
[14:02] <dveim> it appears when i log in, does not matter as guest or not
[14:04] <Naruto_Xboy> nvidia card problem on 13.04 beta on my laptop. Who can help me
[14:04] <dveim> what is that?
[14:04] <Naruto_Xboy> i have a laptop asus K56CM
[14:04] <Naruto_Xboy> this have two graphic card
[14:05] <Naruto_Xboy> HD4000 and nvidia GT635M
[14:05] <Naruto_Xboy> but i can swich off GT635M
[14:05] <Naruto_Xboy> it makes this my laptop is very hot
[14:06] <Naruto_Xboy> can you help me turn off this
[14:13] <Naruto_Xboy> nvidia card problem on 13.04 beta on my laptop. Who can help me
[14:23] <ikonia> Naruto_Xboy: ever considered using the stable release as you don't seem to really understand what you are doing ?
[14:24] <Naruto_Xboy> i have install ubuntu 12.10 this stable
[14:24] <ikonia> Naruto_Xboy: ok, so why not usin 12.10 if it's stable ?
[14:24] <Naruto_Xboy> but i update to 13.04 , i can't turn off nvidia card
[14:25] <ikonia> then go back to 12.10
[14:25] <Naruto_Xboy> I want to explore the new version
[14:25] <ikonia> yes, but you don't seem to be able to deal with a version that is unstable
[14:25] <ikonia> so using a stable version may allow you to actually use your machine
[14:25] <eelco_> Hi guys, quick question on Kubuntu 13.04 (I was directed here from the #kubuntu channel). I'm testing out the beta and noticed that Ctrl+Alt+F1 doesn't take me to a shell any more, where this worked out of the box on Kubuntu 12.10. I can switch to Ctrl+Alt+F1 up to Ctrl+Alt+F6, but the screen just goes blank (receives no input), Ctrl+Alt+F7 get's me back to my desktop as usual though. Both Ctrl+Alt+Backspace and  sudo
[14:25] <eelco_> /etc/init.d/lightdm stop  exited the display manager, but didn't show a shell. Do any of you know if the default behaviour has changed, or how I can boot in to a shell outside of X now?
[14:26] <ikonia> eelco_: you can boot into single user mode for a shell
[14:27] <Naruto_Xboy> tôi nên quay lại 12.10 và chờ bản ổn định 13.04
[14:27] <Naruto_Xboy> I should go back to the stable 12.10 and wait for 13.04
[14:28] <eelco_> @ikonia - thank you. Did a quick Google, is this the way to do it? "Append the letter S (or word Single) to the end of the (kernel) line in grub"
[14:29] <ikonia> eelco_: "single" yes
[14:29] <ikonia> eelco_: append single
[14:29] <Naruto_Xboy> thank you ikonia ;)
[14:30] <eelco_> @ikonia - thank you - Do you know if that Single User environment lets me run a Cuda program like Ctrl-Alt+F1 did allow me to before?
[14:30] <Naruto_Xboy> time to 13:04 release
[14:31] <ikonia> eelco_: it's basically a standard setup, just with "single user" approach, the root user, eg: no desktop, no networking etc etc
[14:31] <ikonia> eelco_: think of it as maintenance mode
[14:32] <eelco_> @ikonia - thank you, I will give it a try
[14:33] <eelco_> Out of curiosity, do you know why this the Ctrl + Alt + F1-6 functionality is no longer working? Was that a design decision, or is it just not working on my install?
[14:33] <ikonia> eelco_: no idea, the #kde guys would be best to answer
[14:34] <yofel> the tty's have nothing to do with kde though
[14:34] <yofel> eelco_: do you have any getty processes runnin?
[14:35] <eelco_> eelco@eelco-pc:~/Programs/truecrack/src$ ps faux | grep "getty"
[14:35] <eelco_> root      1076  0.0  0.0  15828   972 tty4     Ss+  13:40   0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty4
[14:35] <eelco_> root      1083  0.0  0.0  15828   964 tty5     Ss+  13:40   0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty5
[14:35] <eelco_> root      1090  0.0  0.0  15828   964 tty2     Ss+  13:40   0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty2
[14:35] <eelco_> root      1094  0.0  0.0  15828   964 tty3     Ss+  13:40   0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty3
[14:35] <eelco_> root      1100  0.0  0.0  15828   968 tty6     Ss+  13:40   0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty6
[14:35] <eelco_> root      1427  0.0  0.0  15828   972 tty1     Ss+  13:40   0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty1
[14:35] <ikonia> eelco_: really - spamming the channel with that
[14:35] <ikonia> how do you think that's going to help
[14:36] <eelco_> sorry, thought it would past as 1 line
[14:36] <yofel> ikonia: can it be that you haven't yet had a coffee today?
[14:36] <yofel> !paste | eelco_
[14:37] <ikonia> yofel: rarely drink coffee
[14:37] <yofel> have some tea then ;)
[14:37] <eelco_> guys, you're really spamming the channel now :P
[14:38] <eelco_> @yofel - so yes, got 6 getty processes running - tty1-6
[14:39] <yofel> yeah, so this should be working, and it works fine here. Not sure where else to look
[14:41] <eelco_> OK, learned a bit again :) I'll have a quick read up on getty, tty and Single User mode, might be able to debug some myself. Thanks for your help yofel and ikonia!
[14:44] <BluesKaj> ttys are working for my setup , thank the Lord :)
[15:03] <Paddy_NI> Hello I decided to just the gun a little and install raring on my sisters desktop computer.. I have noticed that sound is no longer working and the card is not listed in sounds settings
[15:04] <Paddy_NI> I have tried installing "pulseaudio-esound-compat" according to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1078543
[15:04] <Paddy_NI> I have reboot and it has still not appeared
[15:04] <Paddy_NI> I have also noticed that the intel graphics performance is pretty bad
[15:14] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: 1.) is that bug the same as yours, are you getting "file not found errors" 2.) what xorg driver is in use
[15:16] <Paddy_NI> ikonia: well the bug is not identical as I think the cards may be different
[15:16] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: do you get the "file not found" error ?
[15:16] <Paddy_NI> No file not found errors and not sure which version of xorg is in use.. this is fully up to date afaik
[15:17] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: right so the card is different and the error is different.....why are you following a bug / fix that is totally different to your problem
[15:17] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: I didn't ask which xorg version you where using, I asked which xorg driver is in use
[15:17] <Paddy_NI> I could not find an exact duplicate
[15:17] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: ok - so then there may not be a bug logged, just doing random things from differenet bug reports seems foolish
[15:18] <Paddy_NI> ikonia: It does but in the past it has given results
[15:18] <Paddy_NI> better than nothing as far as I am concerned :-)
[15:18] <ikonia> I'm sorry, I can't support that approach to debugging "pick random bug reports and just try stuff2
[15:18] <ikonia> no, it's not better than nothing as it can do more damage/make problems worse/harder to fix
[15:18] <Paddy_NI> They are not exactly random
[15:19] <Paddy_NI> If I had chosen a random bug report then we would currently not be talking about sound right now
[15:19] <ikonia> Paddy_NI:  it is random
[15:19] <Paddy_NI> no its not
[15:19] <Paddy_NI> I think you need to read up on the definition of random
[15:20] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: that bug is for a missing compatability module, hence the "file not found" error - as you are not getting that error, the problem is totally different
[15:22] <Paddy_NI> Okay I'm going to revert any changes I have made
[15:23] <Paddy_NI> brb
[15:27] <Paddy_NI> ikonia: I have reverted all the changes I have made, how do I get which xorg driver I am using?
[15:27] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: look in the xorg log
[15:28] <Paddy_NI> I have an intel chipset I am pretty sure that the graphics and sounds are intel too.. Going to check the log
[15:28] <ikonia> Paddy_NI: I wasn't asking what the hardware was at this time, I was asking which xorg driver was in use
[15:30] <Paddy_NI> ikonia: Yeah I know
[15:30] <Paddy_NI> Here is xorg log http://pastebin.com/MVgSRyPV
[15:30] <ikonia> I'm not asking for the xorg log
[15:30] <Paddy_NI> Its a little confusing
[15:30] <alankila> it's X. It is the worst software in the world except for all others that try to generate working display.
[15:31] <alankila> they are currently even worse.
[15:31] <Paddy_NI> lol
[15:31] <ikonia> thanks for the pointless comment
[15:31] <ikonia> I'll leave you to it
[15:32] <Paddy_NI> ikonia: was that directed at me?
[15:32] <alankila> no, to me, I think.
[15:32] <ikonia> correct
[15:32] <alankila> the guy is just known to be pretty grumpy
[15:32] <ikonia> I'm not grumpy at all
[15:32] <ikonia> just not wasting time trying to resolve something with pointless comments
[15:33] <ikonia> laters
[15:33] <Paddy_NI> alankila: Yeah I see what you mean
[15:33] <bjsnider> Paddy_NI, what is the result of the dmesg command. pastebin it please
[15:35] <bjsnider> alankila, i guess you're not in the business of marketing xorg
[15:36] <Paddy_NI> bjsnider: Here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640398/
[15:36] <alankila> anyway the xorg log says something like "LoadModule" which mentions which driver it loaded by name, and generally the module initializes and produces a chatlog about it
[15:37] <alankila> but it's not the only thing it loads, so that makes it harder to answer the question what driver is in use. But really, this is par the course with X, nothing in it is particularly user friendly.
[15:37] <alankila> but it's better now than it has ever been before, so that's something at least.
[15:38] <alankila> if you get "vesa" driver then that means unaccelerated fallback driver. This is all stuff you just have to know
[15:38] <Paddy_NI> Oh okay.. Yeah I remember with dapper I had to specify my screens horizontal and vertical refresh rates and mouse buttons
[15:38] <alankila> or could be fbdev also
[15:39] <BluesKaj> install mesa-utils , then run glxinfo | grep OpenGL , the version string is your driver , alankila
[15:40] <alankila> BluesKaj: pretty circuitous way to find that out, methinks. There got to be something better.
[15:40] <alankila> but alas, can't think of anything
[15:40] <BluesKaj> alankila:  nope it works fine , just try it
[15:40] <Paddy_NI> this is what I got from that glxinfo http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640405/
[15:41] <bjsnider> don't see anything wrong in dmesg, looks like the right stuff being loaded, and same with glxinfo
[15:41] <bjsnider> no messages about an audio chip being found at all in demsg though
[15:41] <alankila> BluesKaj: I already did. While it says nvidia blah blah, I wonder if that's really the Xorg driver or just information about the 3D setup which happens to mention the driver. Let's assume for instance that I loaded vesa driver and have no 3d acceleration whatsoever. Will it still work?
[15:41] <BluesKaj> Paddy_NI:  the you're using the mesa driver
[15:41] <bjsnider> what do you get from lsusb
[15:41] <Paddy_NI> Just no sound card listed and poor graphics performance
[15:42] <BluesKaj> alankila:  I'm not assuming anything , it's supposed to work in 2D  as well afaik
[15:42] <bjsnider> graphics performance may be due to a problem with unity or compiz at the moment
[15:43] <Paddy_NI> Oh okay well I guess updates should hopefully resolve graphics performance
[15:43] <Paddy_NI> *issues
[15:43] <bjsnider> what does lsusb show
[15:43] <alankila> BluesKaj: I never said you must assume this. I guess the right word is 'stipulate'. (Assumption made for sake of argument.)
[15:44] <Paddy_NI> bjsnider: The mouse, keyboard and linux foundation usb root hubs
[15:44] <bjsnider> and lspci
[15:45] <alankila> anyway it does sound like i915 driver would be in use for Paddy, so that suggests that his stuff should just work, at least when it comes to graphics. Unless the hardware is simply very poor, I guess. I wish I knew more of this, really, but I haven't had any display trouble other than some crashes with nouveau for a long, long time.
[15:45] <Paddy_NI> bjsnider: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640420/
[15:46] <alankila> Paddy_NI: I can't see anything that looks like audio in the PCI hardware listing, and you say there's nonesuch also on the USB listing? This is curious. Could the audio chipset be integrated and disabled in the BIOS?
[15:46] <bjsnider> there's no sound chip on this board i guess
[15:46] <bjsnider> could be disabled in the bios
[15:47] <Paddy_NI> alankila: I think that would be highly unlikely as it just replaced ubuntu 12.10 with 13.04
[15:47] <Paddy_NI> Sound was working before
[15:47] <alankila> Paddy_NI: so you say, but there is no sign of it
[15:47] <Paddy_NI> Well I formatted the HDD then installed the raring daily from two days ago then applied updates
[15:48] <alankila> it is also plausible that it's some USB thing and a shutdown and reboot sequence wedged the thing at the end of the USB bus until a proper poweroff. These things happen.
[15:48] <Paddy_NI> hmm
[15:48] <Paddy_NI> I might power it off for a moment
[15:48] <bjsnider> is this an expansion card, onboard, or external?
[15:48] <alankila> or it might be leftover condition from some suspend + resume. But if you can find out that it's enabled in the BIOS, and can remove battery and wait some time, and it still doesn't work, then I have absolutely no idea.
[15:48] <Paddy_NI> onboard
[15:48] <BluesKaj> bjsnider:  aplay -l ?
[15:49] <bjsnider> well that wouldn't work
[15:49] <bjsnider> there's no alsa driver becuase there's no detected hardware
[15:49] <Paddy_NI> okay I'm going to power off brb
[15:49] <bjsnider> do a flea power
[15:49] <Paddy_NI> okay
[15:49] <alankila> I've had to do these battery poweroffs with laptops, these things are complicated. :-/
[15:50] <bjsnider> why did he do a wipe/reload
[15:50] <alankila> and I have had usb keyboards that die in a 'sudo reboot' sequence, they must be removed and reattached because the usb host is not properly detected after a soft reboot.
[15:50] <bjsnider> he could have upgraded
[15:50] <alankila> I really start to hate USB
[15:50] <alankila> universally seriously broken
[15:51] <bjsnider> well, maybe thunderbolt will replace it
[15:51] <bjsnider> eventually
[15:53] <alankila> I would certainly hope so. This USB thing just has never been implemented correctly so it must go
[15:54] <alankila> something about it must make it impossible to implement correctly, don't know what
[15:54] <alankila> even my latest hardware purchase can't reliably boot from USB key, it works kinda 1/3 of the time and lately not at all.
[15:55] <alankila> tried to replace SSD by USB so I could put the SSD on a different computer that would benefit more from it... worked a few months, then BIOS decided it will never see the USB key again during bootup. I don't even.
[15:56] <alankila> I dd'd the data from the USB key to another SSD on another box and then it booted from SSD like nothing had happened.
[15:56] <penguin42> I need to do some USB debug actually - my Sammy printer has stopped working on my main Ubuntu box but works fine on my older Mate box
[15:57] <alankila> oh yes, and even when the USB key did boot, Linux would fail to detect it almost always... I guess the fact BIOS used it left it in some state that confused Linux about it so I had to always remove it and plug it back in during initramfs so it would find the root fs on it
[15:59] <alankila> Might be flakiness about these new USB 3.0 things. After all, the tech is like 1 year old now only, so clearly can't expect it to work. I had much the same experience with USB 2.0 originally, and it eventually got better.
[16:06] <alankila> I'm also a programmer so I know all about new software being broken. This stuff happens. Complexity is the enemy of working things, and everything is always so incredibly complex because it's specced by very optimistic people. Anyway, end of rant before someone bans me.
[16:09] <Ziggy_> just installed 13.04 and kde keeps crashing for me.... it screen turns black and it logs me out.. where can i find some kind of log to see whats wrong ?
[16:11] <penguin42> Ziggy_: Try /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:14] <Ziggy_> here it is >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640499/
[16:15] <Ziggy_> it does not say mutch to me but maybe someone can take a look
[16:15] <Ziggy_> it has crashed 3 times in 2 hours now
[16:16] <penguin42> Ziggy_: Try the .old version
[16:17] <Ziggy_> .old >>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640508/
[16:20] <penguin42> Ziggy_: OK that .old shows an X server segfault; it's a buggy graphics/GL driver
[16:22] <Ziggy_> hmm okej im using 3im using propietary drivers now maybe i should switch back to the tested one then
[16:24] <penguin42> using KDE in Xrender rather GL mode tends to work well for me; but I'm not a gamer
[16:25] <Ziggy_> only game i want to work is QuakeLive :)
[16:25] <Ziggy_> but i want my 3d acceleration to work
[16:51] <fcuk112> how to get nautilus split-view (f3) back?
[19:43] <krabador> hi, people i would to know if it's normal that zsync process are slower than the complete dowload if the iso from the same server
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> krabador, should not be, what are you zsyncing?
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> raring?
[19:47] <krabador> wilee-nilee, i try the daily, every 4-5 days
[19:47] <krabador> wilee-nilee, zsync would be useful
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> I have not run  a sync for awhile so I'm not sure and am in windows at the moment, so I can't check
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> should run fast, make sure the address is correct I suppose, has it always been this way with the command you are using?
[19:49] <extropianpirate> i wonder if someone could help me? i'm trying to use dual monitors with an intel hd 2500 built into my core i5, they're currently mirrored, but when i try to change that, system settings and xrandr don't recognise there's more than one monitor. the monitors are connected with DVI and HDMI, Kubuntu 13.04
[20:57] <BluesKaj> got google earth running ok , same old requirements as before , lsb-core , lsb4, and ia32-libs
[21:02] <penguin42> Can someone try and reproduce https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62446 - it's happening on +1 for me, but not on Arch with apparently the same libreoffice version - any other +1's see it?
[21:10] <penguin42> only takes like 2 mins to reproduce if you can....
[21:21] <melkor> My microphone doesn't work with the 3.8 kernel.
[21:22] <yofel> penguin42: seems to work here http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/spread.png (calc 4.0.1)
[21:23] <penguin42> yofel: Hmph - wth is going on then ?
[21:23] <penguin42> 1:4.0.1-0ubuntu2 here
[21:25] <yofel> same
[21:41] <penguin42> hmph ok, that's weird then; might ask on one of the Lo channels


[11:48] <DiamondSword> hello .. I want to use Xubuntu 15.10. it's okay but will I have the option to upgrade to the version 16.04 LTS when it came up online?
[11:48] <DiamondSword> 15.10 to LTS version
[17:19] <xubuntu49w> how do i do a factory rest
[17:19] <xubuntu49w> i mean how do i do a factory reset
[17:21] <xubuntu49w> how do i get my wi fi to show
[20:12] <ayyleymao> hello
[20:13] <knome> hello
[20:15] <ayyleymao> I'm getting a popup window at start-up saying something like: "Sorry, a problem occurred while installing software." then the faulty package. I'm not interested on the problem. But what triggers this popup?
[20:16] <ayyleymao> Like, what command did xubuntu ran, in order to prompt me for a crash report?
[20:23] <genii> Probably either apport or whoopsie
[20:24] <dkessel> yeah, removing whoopsie would "help". But he/she is gone
[21:07] <ayyleymao> wow comp crashed
[21:12] <DiamondSword> hello, is there a setting or something to make easier to resize the windows?
[21:13] <DiamondSword> it's hard to catch the exact point at right bottom or left bottom corners ..
[21:15] <knome> DiamondSword, http://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/
[21:18] <DiamondSword> knome, thanks
[21:18] <DiamondSword> with ALT key useful
[21:32] <DiamondSword> knome, should I use apt or apt-get?
[21:32] <DiamondSword> I read about it, but sorry for the English, I didn't get it much.
[21:38] <knome> DiamondSword, technically you can use either one, the xubuntu team and support channel usually recommends apt-get
[21:39] <knome> for consistency more than that it would be better or anything
[21:41] <DiamondSword> ok .
[23:32] <nrpil> hello people !
[23:34] <nrpil> anyone awake ? i have one question. i am trying to open a .odt from a samba share. libreoffice starts but closes without openen the file ?
[23:35] <pleia2> try opening a terminal and doing: libreoffice file.odt
[23:35] <pleia2> the output in the terminal should tell you what's going on
[23:35] <nrpil> i tried doing libreoffice smb://server/share/file.odt does the same. starts and stops
[23:36] <nrpil> sorry, hello pleia2 !
[23:37] <pleia2> no terminal output?
[23:37] <pleia2> there shouldn't be anything really about samba that is a problem, but if libreoffice can't write somewhere it may get weird
[23:38] <nrpil> i will try again, one moment
[23:38] <nrpil> it is just libreoffice + smb:// causing a problem
[23:41] <pleia2> could be that libreoffice is trying to write a temporary file somewhere on the samba share and failing, but I'm totally guessing, would have to do an strace to know for sure if it's not telling you
[23:44] <nrpil> could be, i will try to do some strace. thanks for now
[23:45] <mrkramps> nrpil, you need libreoffice-gnome
[23:47] <nrpil> mrkramps: can you tell me why ?
[23:48] <mrkramps> nrpil, gnome virtual file system without gnome support in libreoffice does not seem to work
[23:50] <nrpil> mrkramps: oke, will install it. maybe an idea to install it in the default installation
[23:53] <nrpil> mrkramps: works ! thanks a lot !
[23:53] <mrkramps> you're welcome


[00:18] <dhart> wgrant: you answered my question about how to request a canonical-hosted instance of launchpad. :-)
[00:18] <wgrant> dhart: Oh, right.
[00:19] <thumper> dhart: which question?
[00:19] <p_masho> anyone from the launchpad team here. I;d like to know how to creat a ppa, but conly contains data..
[00:20] <thumper> p_masho: isn't there a "Create a new PPA" on your user page?
[00:20] <p_masho> there is.. but it seems I have to upload source.. I would like to upload a bunch of files, similar to a zip..
[00:22] <mwhudson> p_masho: ppas contain packages, not data
[00:22] <mwhudson> if you just want to be able to download files, you can do that by registering a release
[00:23] <thumper> p_masho: if you just want to upload a zip file, it needs to be associated with a project release
[04:37] <xnox> Can some please re-recreate branch import of svn://gcc.gnu.org/svn/gcc/trunk with bzr-svn in launchpad? It's not allowing me to request it cause there is the "old" svn export already
[04:38] <mwhudson> xnox: i think it might make sense to wait until incremental imports for svn get deployed next week
[04:39] <xnox> mwhudson, ok. Shall I open a question on lp.net/launchpad-code ? or will you remember =)
[04:39] <mwhudson> i doubt i'll remember
[04:41] <xnox> it's on launchpad =)
[04:41]  * xnox wants gcc daily builds =)
[05:31] <shadeslayer> hey is launchpad login down or something?
[05:32] <shadeslayer> i get : Launchpad doesn't understand the form data submitted in this request.
[05:33] <spm> heh, if it was done, you wouldn't get a response at all :-)
[05:33] <spm> down*
[05:34] <mwhudson> shadeslayer: do you block the referer header?
[05:34] <shadeslayer> mwhudson: whut? im behind a proxy in my college so i really dont know
[05:37] <shadeslayer> mwhudson: oh and how do i check if its blocked?
[05:38] <spm> a proxy shouldn't be able to diddle http headers - if you're talking SSL. if it can diddle the headers, you have bigger problems. :-/
[05:39] <spm> shadeslayer: it'll depend on your webbrowser and what plugins/extensions, or if windows/ie, what anti-virus/firewall gumpf you have.
[05:43] <mwhudson> shadeslayer: if you don't know then the answer is probably "no"
[05:44] <shadeslayer> oh sorry i was afk
[05:44] <shadeslayer> the OS is windows,browser is chrome and no extensions
[05:44] <shadeslayer> Windows XP :P
[05:44] <shadeslayer> no anti virus and firewalls that i can see....
[05:46] <shadeslayer> ok gtg
[08:45] <bilalakhtar> why is there a long queue at the build farm? I just uploaded 2 packages, only to find out that they will be built after 12 hours!
[09:04] <rdb> Can I register a bot with launchpad?
[09:04] <rdb> I mean, is that allowed?
[09:13] <glen> is it possible to search for translations, for example how is "Restore" translated for language Foo? https://translations.launchpad.net
[09:21] <dpm> glen, it is, but only on a template level basis. I.e. translatable applications expose what we call translation templates in Launchpad. You can go to a given template and search for a word. e.g. -> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/evolution/+pots/evolution/fr/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=Restore
[09:21] <dpm> That's a search in the Evolution template in Ubuntu Lucid
[09:21] <dpm> in French
[09:21] <dpm> You can see the pattern in the URL
[10:29] <rdb> How do I do anonymous authentication via the API?
[10:38] <cjwatson> I'm trying to change ~ubuntu-cli-mono-dev's contact address to<EMAIL_ADDRESS> That mailing list used to be the contact address for ~mono, but it isn't any longer.  However, https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cli-mono-dev/+contactaddress says<EMAIL_ADDRESS>is already registered in Launchpad and is associated with MOTU Mono Team."  What's up?
[10:38] <cjwatson> https://edge.launchpad.net/~mono says that's a lie ...
[10:42] <Laney> why shouldn't two teams be able to have the same contact address anyway?
[10:43] <persia> Because LP uses the email address to identify the person in several cases.
[10:44] <persia> So each email address has to have a unique person
[10:44] <persia> A team is a special class of person.
[10:44] <Laney> hmm
[10:44] <Laney> seems like a strange overloading
[10:48] <persia> Laney: Well, how else to track activities of folk that don't use LP in a way that lets one reconnect them to their data when they sign up?
[10:54] <maxb> rdb: https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib/#Anonymous%20access
[10:54] <rdb> maxb, I'm not using launchpadlib
[10:55] <maxb> ah
[10:57] <maxb> there was a blog entry which explained this nicely
[10:58] <maxb> leonardr: Where can I find your blog entry on API anonymous access?
[10:58] <leonardr> maxb: the blog entry may not explain it well either
[10:58] <leonardr> basically you have to sign your request with an empty oauth token
[10:59] <rdb> Oh, OK. I'll give that a try, thanks.
[10:59] <maxb> It explained it better than what I can find on help.lp.net :-)
[10:59] <rdb> Yeah, I saw this in the source code: super(AnonymousAccessToken, self).__init__('','')
[10:59] <maxb> Oh, there it is: http://blog.launchpad.net/general/anonymous-access-to-the-launchpad-web-service-api
[11:00] <leonardr> http://blog.launchpad.net/general/anonymous-access-to-the-launchpad-web-service-api
[11:00] <leonardr> yeah
[11:00] <rdb> OK, thanks. :-)
[11:00] <maxb> "You can get anonymous access by passing in empty strings for the token string and access secret"
[11:01] <IntuitiveNipple> Is there an ongoing problem with edge and main? I'm getting 503 responses this past hour trying to post a bug report. There's nothing on the status page to indicate a problem
[11:09] <intellectronica> IntuitiveNipple: do you get an OOPS?
[11:09] <intellectronica> and if yes what's the oops id?
[11:09] <IntuitiveNipple> Yes, had loads both from Edge and main: here's the one that just occurred when I did a 'resend' on main: OOPS-1543L1034
[11:11] <intellectronica> IntuitiveNipple: will have a look as soon as the oops report becomes available (in 5-10 minutes). sorry for the incovenience
[11:12] <intellectronica> IntuitiveNipple: what project / package are you trying to file the bug on, b.t.w?
[11:12] <IntuitiveNipple> nvidia-graphics-185
[11:12] <IntuitiveNipple> At one point I saw a raw zope backtrace returned but like an idiot didn't save it
[11:15] <intellectronica> IntuitiveNipple: so, i can see the oops now. the problem is that when searching for possible duplicates the query timed out.
[11:15] <intellectronica> i'm pretty sure we just introduced something to bypass that, so i don't know why that didn't work
[11:15] <wgrant> IntuitiveNipple: Do you have JavaScript disabled?
[11:17] <IntuitiveNipple> No
[11:29] <IntuitiveNipple> I've just noticed that the initial duplicate search when entering the summary also fails with a report saying to try again with fewer words
[11:41] <intellectronica> IntuitiveNipple: oh, so is the error you're getting at a different step?
[11:42] <IntuitiveNipple> intellectronica: Found the problem: I took the package-name to report from the current binary package installed plus seeing the packages other bugs are reported to. I was using "nvidia-graphics-185". Just looked again and realised the source package is "nvidia-graphics-drivers-180" - posting to that has worked, so the problem is a failed package search not being handled correctly
[11:42] <IntuitiveNipple> intellectronica: The error (503 Service Unavailable) related to that OOPs I gave you happened after I posted the bug report itself
[11:43] <intellectronica> IntuitiveNipple: i see
[11:44] <IntuitiveNipple> Launchpad wasn't offering me an option to search for the package to report on so I guessed it. I found just now that after trying a different guessed package-name that launchpad responded with 'unknown package' and gave me the option to "Choose..." which helped me ID the correct package
[11:54] <cjwatson> Laney: how else would you accept bug comments by e-mail?
[11:54] <Laney> cjwatson: Teams don't tend to make bug comments
[11:54] <cjwatson> anyway, I think this is somewhat beside the point of my original question, because the ~mono team doesn't have that e-mail address attached any more
[11:54] <cjwatson> sure
[11:54] <cjwatson> I don't want to sidetrack too much, I'd rather solve the problem at hand
[11:54] <Laney> yes of course
[11:55] <Laney> now this is related ... how can I subscribe a person to a package with lplib? I can't find out how to get access to structural_subscription_target
[11:56] <wgrant> Laney: structural_subscription_target is really an interface. Get a distribution_source_package and use that.
[11:59] <Laney> wgrant: I have a source_package object but see nothing about subscriptions
[11:59] <wgrant> Laney: source_package is really distro_series_source_package.
[12:00] <wgrant> You need a distribution_source_package.
[12:00] <Laney> oh
[12:00] <Laney> let me try that
[12:01] <Laney> wgrant: much better, many thanks
[12:01] <Laney> Do you have any insight into our email query?
[12:01] <wgrant> Laney: Excellent.
[12:01] <wgrant> Well, teams are people.
[12:02] <wgrant> So the email uniqueness thing makes sense.
[12:02] <wgrant> What doesn't make sense is that you can't actually remove an address.
[12:02] <wgrant> That is a bug.
[12:02] <wgrant> That gets brought up every so often.
[12:02] <wgrant> I'm not sure it's actually reported.
[12:10] <cjwatson> Curtis asserts in bug 488160 that there is such a bug, but doesn't say which.
[12:10] <cjwatson> sinzui: ^- do you have the reference?
[12:31] <aleksander_m> did anyone receive an invitation to be an administrator in a Landscape account called "Canonical - candidates (canonica)."?
[12:31] <sinzui> cjwatson: I I do not understand what you are asking, why we do not permit teams to share identities?
[12:32] <cjwatson> sinzui: no.  In https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+bug/488160/comments/1, you say "There is a bug that you cannot unassign them to use them with another team."  Do you have a reference for that bug?
[12:32] <cjwatson> I looked but couldn't find it.
[12:34] <sinzui> cjwatson: bug 250103
[12:34] <cjwatson> ah, thank you
[12:35] <cjwatson> I'm not sure that matches the situation here
[12:36] <cjwatson> sinzui: In this case, ~mono used to have<EMAIL_ADDRESS>as its contact address; this has been unset by the team administrator, but I still can't set ~ubuntu-cli-mono-dev's contact address to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>since it complains that it's in use by ~mono (which it used to be, but isn't any more).  Is that the same bug or a different one?
[12:36] <sinzui> cjwatson: because you cannot delete an address, and you cannot see the address is still there when you think you removed it, you experience errors when the address is reused
[12:37] <sinzui> cjwatson: so as I said, you only marked the address as inactive, you did not delete it. only the address owner can use the address...
[12:37] <cjwatson> well, *I* didn't, somebody else did, but OK
[12:37] <sinzui> ...which is stupid because we all no a real person controls the address
[12:38]  * sinzui had hoped to fix this bug last week but is drowning in other issues
[12:38] <cjwatson> Is it possible for a LOSA to delete addresses on a case-by-case basis, or is that verboten?
[12:38] <sinzui> cjwatson: yes. a losa has a sql script that can really delete the address
[12:38] <cjwatson> OK, I'll file a question then, thanks
[12:41] <cjwatson> Laney: actually, could you follow up to https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+question/104791 indicating that the db delete still needs to be performed?  Since I didn't file the question, I can't really reopen it
[12:44] <Laney> cjwatson: Yes, will do in a minute
[12:44] <cjwatson> thanks
[13:09] <Laney> cjwatson: I wrote a script to add the subscriptions when the change is actioned — http://pastebin.com/NuNw7qGm
[13:16] <sivang> hi all
[13:16] <sivang> I am trying to register a spec
[13:16] <sivang> but Ubuntu is not acceptable as a project name...
[13:16] <sivang> what should I do ?
[13:16] <sivang> (it is for the operating system)
[13:16] <wgrant> sivang: Ubuntu is a distribution, not a project.
[13:16] <sivang> hey wgrant
[13:17] <sivang> wgrant: okay, so I triedt os earch forrelated stuff, like "Ubuntu Desktop"
[13:17] <wgrant> sivang: Where are you trying to register from?
[13:22] <sivang> wgrant: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-m/+addspec
[13:23] <wgrant> sivang: Ah. That is a strange form. You can't do what you want from there.
[13:23] <wgrant> Try https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[13:23] <sivang> wgrant: ah stupid
[13:23] <sivang> wgrant: I have to copy and paste everything....
[13:24] <sivang> wgrant: I reached that form guess where? from the summit subdomain
[13:29]  * sivang copies and pastes
[13:30] <Fionn> During the last few days I tried to comment on several different bugs ans questions. Each time I try to send my comment I get an ajax requester, telling me that a Server error occurred and I should contact an administrator. Someone pls tell me who would be that.
[16:32] <Laney> does lp.c.c need to be private by default?
[16:37] <jml> Laney, you mean the launchpad.canonical.com wiki?
[16:37] <Laney> jml: Right, trying to view some of the pages linked from specs
[16:37] <jml> Laney, yes, it needs to be private.
[16:38] <jml> Laney, it predates open sourcing, is big, old, unmaintained, old and has confidential information.
[16:39] <jml> Laney, you can take comfort in the fact that almost all of the content there is outdated and useless.
[16:39] <Laney> Alright, I can believe that
[16:39] <Laney> I was just nosy about some of the spec pages
[16:39] <jml> Laney, feel free to ask about them on the list
[16:39] <jml> Laney, or here
[16:39] <Laney> sure
[16:40] <jml> Laney, just because we didn't do a systematic audit of the old wiki doesn't mean we can't copy bits and pieces to the public wiki as people ask questions.
[16:46] <Fionn> During the last few days I tried to comment on several different bugs ans questions. Each time I try to send my comment I get an ajax requester, telling me that a Server error occurred and I should contact an administrator.  What is a patch?"
[17:54] <kirkland> Seriously?  Launchpad can't tell that what i'm uploading is in fact a patch (generated by debdiff) ?
[17:55] <gmb> kirkland: Known bug, in progress.
[17:56] <kirkland> gmb: thanks
[17:56] <gmb> kirkland: bug 538219, for reference
[17:56] <kirkland> gmb: subscribed, cheers mate
[17:56] <gmb> np
[18:11] <psusi> I just uploaded a debdiff as a patch no problem
[18:11] <psusi> well, no problem once I emailed it to myself on my windows machine I'm using right now so I could attach it, since launchpad seems to no longer support lynx
[18:22] <reidn> Hi All! Best place for Storm experts?
[18:23] <Hellow> reidn: #storm is the channel you're looking for.
[18:23] <reidn> Thanks heaps!
[18:37] <smoser> hey all. i'm trying to use staging to test an apport change
[18:37] <smoser> https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+filebug/jDuqJ5QsBO3NRk62gLZrFtpov5A?
[18:38] <smoser> seems to reload indefinitely
[18:38] <smoser> (several minutes now)
[18:38] <smoser> if i dont use staging it seems to work fine
[18:50] <salgado> smoser, that's because there's a script which processes the apport submitted data, and that script doesn't run on staging
[18:51] <smoser> oh. ok.
[18:51] <smoser> thanks.
[18:51] <salgado> I think they're going to start to run that script on staging soon
[18:58] <psusi> after I did a bzr launchpad-login, I can no longer clone or checkout from lp... I get Permission denied (publickey). what gives?
[18:59] <psusi> and there does not seem to be a way to log back out...
[20:22] <lysi> Hi, concerning bug #538236, now I'm not able anymore to post any answer or bug reply.
[20:25] <lysi> I wanted to submit an answer on answers.edge, failed. It did work until yesterday. Wanted to add this to the bug report, failed. Screenshot of Traceback is here: http://www.pic-upload.de/view-5048543/bugs.edge.png.html
[20:28] <lysi> Should I disable the option 'edge redirect'?
[20:57] <jack__> why is this rejected? http://pastebin.com/2SanjT44
[20:57] <jack__> or better, how to solve it
[21:00] <mwhudson> jack__: it looks like the dsc you uploaded references files that you didn't upload
[21:00] <mwhudson> why dput didn't upload them, i'm not really sure
[21:01] <jack__> mwhudson: it complains about a package, I have it here...
[21:01] <mwhudson> jack__: it looks like dput didn't upload it though
[21:01] <jack__> mwhudson: why not, that's the question
[21:02] <mwhudson> jack__: yes indeed
[21:03] <mwhudson> i think there's a bit of guesswork involved in deciding which files to upload
[21:03] <mwhudson> there's a way to tell it to not guess and just upload everything, but i don't remember what it is
[21:03] <mwhudson> jack__: try dput -f maybe?
[21:05] <jack__> Checksum doesn't match
[21:05] <geser> debuild -S -sa
[21:06] <jack__> ok
[21:26] <mwhudson> oh right, it's debuild that has the option, not dput
[21:34] <jack__> Rejected:
[21:34] <jack__> flowcanvas_0.6.0-1ubuntu3~ladi0.dsc: format '3.0 (quilt)' is not permitted in karmic.
[21:34] <jack__> ?
[21:37] <mwhudson> well that error message is at least fairly clear


[22:20] <mrtakdeniz> demophobia, anyway I am not sure ubuntu-restricted-extras package contains mpeg-4 codec, but it must. I am playing any mp3 or audio file with that.
[22:20] <AeroNotix> i used https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-setup-your-own-vpn-with-pptp to set up a vpn on Ubuntu, but pptpd just exits with status 1
[22:20] <Pici> mrtakdeniz, demophobia: You reall really should avoid using wildcards for removing packages. There are many matches for what you have provided and most are not 'libav'
[22:20] <alfonsojon> Where can I go for general talk about Ubuntu, not support?
[22:20] <hitsujiTMO> [[a] you really dont. its a lot of effort to log all that info. you could set up logging in your firewall if you wanted
[22:20] <Beldar> alfonsojon, #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:20] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: you'll need to reboot to do so
[22:20] <AeroNotix> pptpd doesn't seem to create logs, though
[22:21] <[[a]> hitsujiTMO, last question > is there a way to block a specifc IP ADDRESS?
[22:21] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so i can reboot my laptop, remove the coocooahoo file?
[22:21] <mobileRoda> Beldar, im trying, on mobile. thanks, but youre taking me down the wrong rabbit hole. im not running windows anymore
[22:21] <Psil0Cybin> and pop back onto ubuntu and youll help me from here?
[22:21] <hitsujiTMO> [[a]: firewall
[22:21] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: after going through this, should i just go out and buy a blasted card ? lol
[22:21] <[[a]> ok
[22:21] <hitsujiTMO> !ufw | [[a]
[22:22] <aisey> hi, i am now... hot to install 635m notebook graphic to 13.10?
[22:22] <demophobia> Pici, mrtakdeniz, thank you. I think "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" will do the trick -- I should have read more of that page I linked earlier.
[22:22] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: lol do. in the meantime ill try it myself to get a list of debs for you to wget
[22:22] <euclidis> Wow. I was cheating thought..
[22:22] <bekks> !bumblebee | aisey
[22:22] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: okay aha thank you!!
[22:22] <demophobia> I think "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" will automatically remove the two conflicting packages(is that the right word?) and install all the needed other things.
[22:22] <Psil0Cybin> you are a god send.
[22:22] <aisey> thank you
[22:22] <Beldar> mobileRoda, Good to know, that is key information that helps us help you. take a look at this thread and look at the uefi wiki. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295  If you remove windows you still have a gpt partition table.
[22:23] <mrtakdeniz> demophobia, you are welcome ^^
[22:23] <aisey> how to change z/y ?
[22:23] <mobileRoda> Beldar, last time i had same issue, within 1 post a member was able to give me working instructions on how to get to advanced boot window and hit f6 and edit some things,  but today i cant get back. i keep following online instructions to get to adv boot window, but i never get accessibility logo to hit keys to take me there
[22:23] <glitsj16> demophobia: for errors like those you might want to look at installing gstreamer0.10-packagekit to make your life a bit easier in the future, it's a plugin to the gstreamer framework to 'automate' search and/install of audio and video codecs
[22:24] <Beldar> euclidis, The channel is rather busy, can you ask for help if needed or provide support only.
[22:24] <demophobia> a 'TrueType core fonts for the Web EULA' screen came up and i don't know how to get out of it -- clicking the 'ok' text, spacebar, enter key, doesn't work
[22:24] <demophobia> glitsj16, thanks ... ...
[22:25] <Beldar> mobileRoda, Have you removed windows?
[22:25] <mobileRoda> i need that british sounding guy from india =| guy was like, oh yah, do this. done
[22:25] <demophobia> pressing Esc removes the thing but it reappears a fraction of a second later
[22:26] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so i can do sudo rm -r coocooachoo ?
[22:26] <mobileRoda> Beldar, cometely as far as i know. i had already broken windows last time i was installing 12.04 and ran into this. now i have it all removed
[22:26] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i ran that command seems like it takes a while to delete :P aha
[22:27] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: lol will do. it has to remove an entire OS almost
[22:27] <demophobia> I can't proceed with the installation via terminal because of this EULA that I don't know how to accept! What do I do?! I don't want to close the terminal window because I'm afraid interrupting the installation will cause errors. I'm paralyzed until someone helps me figure out how to "accept" this EULA so the terminal can get on with its business >_<
[22:27] <glitsj16> demophobia: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16225/how-can-i-accept-microsoft-eula-agreement-for-ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[22:27] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: hehe alright thank you :) so much. I am thinking of taking this server home tonight, so i can get this working from home, to just get an ip using dhcp and then come to the office and configure an actual static ip :) as long as i can get internet working somewhere that is the right track
[22:27] <demophobia> >____< thank you glitsj16  ....
[22:27] <euclidis> Beldar: Actually, I am thinking about control remotely another machine thought ubuntu. The system is debian based 'rather'. Its a cheating.
[22:28] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: what should i do right now though, wait untill you can continue to help me? are you looking for all the packages we will need?
[22:28] <Beldar> mobileRoda, Ah, more good info, so with a uefi setup and a gpt partition table all this info is pertinent to include in inquiries for help. To be honest I'm not exactly sure what your issue issue is, it seems to be a failing install is this correct?
[22:28] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: if you want to run and grap a new card do
[22:28] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: this will be a few mins
[22:29] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: okay so im going to unplug everything, grab a new card, and run home and hook this up?
[22:30] <Guestabc> I need to remove a ubuntu partition to make space, but Im not sure which one, I have a boot home and swap.
[22:30] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: shoot, how do i get a card though and make sure its not a realtek....again all the cheap cards i can find , seem to be a realtek card :'(
[22:30] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: what would i look for on the package, to make sure that the new etho card i am getting would be supported?
[22:31] <Beldar> Guestabc, What is the actual end goal with doing this?
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: not much you can look for to be hanest. not something thats advertised
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: grab something at random i guess
[22:32] <Guestabc> beldar: its on an external HD and I didn't know I was using 4 primary partitions, I need a partiton for NTFS backup space
[22:32] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so i should just go and grab a card, and hope for the best type thing, when it comes to grabbing the hard ware lmao? okay, i will grab something at random, and will bring it home, hop on irc and ill be live for you to help me :) if possible.
[22:32] <euclidis> Guestabc: You can run 'update-grub' and see which one is your ubuntu. Then, open gparted to do whatever you want.
[22:32] <Beldar> Guestabc, can you run suo fdisk -l and pastebin it.
[22:32] <Beldar> sudo*
[22:32] <Guestabc> ok
[22:33] <Guestabc> I tried to unmount /home but gparted wouldn't allow it, thought that might be the most expendable?
[22:33] <euclidis> hum.. ^
[22:33] <euclidis> Guestabc: ^
[22:33] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i am going to the store now and grabbing a network card for the prupose of doing this, i will be right back, because i am physically going in the store... i might pop on irc using my mobile phone to ask you hitsujiTMO is that fine? maybe
[22:33] <Beldar> Guestabc, You will need a live environment if your in the ubuntu you want removed.
[22:34] <euclidis> of course..
[22:34] <mobileRoda> Beldar, i have written much but this crappy app keeps freezing and wont let me paste text, 1sec
[22:35] <[[a]> what does "sudo ufw logging on" do ?
[22:35] <Guestabc> beldar, this is my first linux install, im not sure what you mean
[22:35] <Beldar> Guestabc, where?
[22:36] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: np
[22:37] <Guestabc> bbeldar, fdisk -l? that doesnt seem to do anything
[22:37] <mobileRoda> Beldar, i have had this issue the only other time ive installed 12.04 on this system. i csn never get nomodeset to work when i edit the black and white grub, but i remember what fixed it for me before was getting into advanced menu then f6 and add nomodeset there. i cant get back to advanced boit window folling online instructions though, as i never see the accessibilty logo
[22:37] <hitsujiTMO> Guestabc: you need to run that with sudo
[22:37] <Beldar> Guestabc, sudo fdisk -l lists partitions
[22:37] <Guestabc> gotcha
[22:38] <hitsujiTMO> Guestabc: and if it still doesnt seem to do anything then, then you have major problems :P
[22:38] <Beldar> mobileRoda, So you are installed correct?
[22:38] <glitsj16> [[a]: it toggles on ufw's logging of packets, which can grow quite large depending on traffic.. as always the man has more details
[22:38] <Beldar> Guestabc: Are you in ubuntu right now?
[22:39] <Guestabc> beldar: yes, here http://pastebin.com/ANpeTDq3
[22:39] <mobileRoda> i was, but i broke sonething so i tried replacing install and it froze installing like before when i didnt use the trick i was told in here. i think im partially installed if that's possible
[22:39] <[[a]> thank you
[22:40] <mobileRoda> Beldar, because i keep having to force shutdown when install hangs
[22:42] <nevyn> win 3
[22:42] <mobileRoda> every instruction i find to get to advanced boot says sane thing, press key when loading livedisc and then f6 when in advanced menu.
[22:42] <mobileRoda> but that never works for me
[22:43] <mobileRoda> yet it has before when i had same iso on usb
[22:43] <hitsujiTMO> [[a]: the logging should give you what you want as regards seeing who is portscanning the system. but as i said, it will become a very huge list, very quickly
[22:43] <Beldar> Guestabc, You have to be on a live cd to resize or delete any part of ubuntu, be careful here any actual part of the ubuntu OS other than the swap being removed will brick it, you might just resize part of it and clone it then do this adding the ntfs the reload the ubuntu.
[22:44] <Guestabc> beldar, so delete the swap, then resize one of the other partitions? like home?
[22:45] <bekks> Guestabc: you cannot do that while running your system.
[22:45] <Guestabc> bekks, yeah I got a live cd tho
[22:46] <mobileRoda> wtf my comp wont even get to bios now with disc out??? just black screen
[22:52] <mobileRoda> and now magically i pull my battery out, put in disk after bricking my comp and im at adv screen. this is sorcery
[22:53] <Beldar> mobileRoda, I recognize you are frustrated, but swearing or acronyms of is not allowed here. You can get installed, however by seeming to not really understand the affect of having the uefi and a gpt partition table and the low graphic boot stuff you have a predicament.
[22:53] <gotpunk> wtf lol
[22:53] <Beldar> !wtf | gotpunk
[22:54] <mobileRoda> uhhhhmmm i said what the frick.
[22:54] <gotpunk> and i said where's the frog
[22:54] <Beldar> gotpunk, This is a world wide channel not your local cultural schema.
[22:54] <gotpunk> I wasn't confused.
[22:54] <mobileRoda> whos the fascist actually is what i said =3
[22:55] <k1l> gotpunk: please stick to technical ubuntu support in here. thanks
[22:55] <Beldar> mobileRoda, look closer, you used an offensive acronym the bot just rellied on when another did the same.
[22:55] <gotpunk> Beldar started it.  He was being a dick.
[22:55] <Beldar> replied*
[22:56] <k1l> mobileRoda: please dont start a drama. stick to technical support and keep it family friendly then users in here will try to help you
[22:56] <Massachusset> Hi, how i can add server ?
[22:57] <Beldar> Massachusset, Install one.
[22:57] <anew> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4658 Jan  1 21:44 /var/www/vpn/./hma-vpn.sh can this be only executed by root ?
[22:57] <mobileRoda> id rather have a bricked computer than chastised for saying wtf. thanks but no thanks ill find help elsewhere. too bad the indian guy isnt here, he had me fixed in 5 min.
[22:57] <paralle21> anew: no
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> Massachusset: i think you're going to have to rephrase that question
[22:57] <anew> weird, i cant execute this remotely tho paralle21
[22:57] <bekks> Massachusset: Add server - to what?
[22:58] <paralle21> anew: what's the error?
[22:58] <anew> just doesnt run
[22:58] <Massachusset> Beldar, sorry, how i can join a new server in edit the adress ,
[22:58] <anew> it's inside a perl script
[22:58] <loki_> how i can get uuid of partition?
[22:58] <Beldar> Massachusset, Not sure myself.
[22:58] <Beldar> loki_, sudom blkid
[22:58] <Beldar> sudo*
[22:58] <bekks> loki_: partitions do not have UUIDs, filesystems do.
[22:59] <loki_> strange
[22:59] <loki_> i am trying to get uuid of swap
[22:59] <hitsujiTMO> anew: while the script itself may be executable by everyone, its most likely calling something that can only be executed by root
[22:59] <loki_> and blkid is silent
[22:59] <loki_> it is not saying anything.
[22:59] <anew> yeah thats it hitsujiTMO
[22:59] <bekks> loki_: sudo blkid
[23:00] <loki_> yes i used sudo
[23:00] <paralle21> anew: Looks like this script requires arguments
[23:00] <bekks> loki_: then run: sudo blkid -g; sudo blkid
[23:00] <anew> how do u know that paralle21 ?
[23:01] <loki_> bekks, there no swap partiotion.
[23:01] <loki_> but i see it in cfdisk
[23:01] <bekks> loki_: you see a partition with the partition type swap - that does not mean it is a swap partition.
[23:01] <paralle21> anew: I google'd the script and found this
[23:01] <paralle21> anew: Usage: $0 [-l] [-p tcp|udp] [server name]
[23:01] <loki_> bekks, it is 100% my old swap partiotion
[23:01] <mr-rich> I have an Ubuntu box (12.04) that's at the login screen and I press the acpi power to shut it off ... it doesn't seem to work ... (it's a VM and I want to shut it down via a script) ... any ideas?
[23:02] <anew> oh nice lol
[23:02] <anew> yeah it does
[23:02] <loki_> i switched off it for some time.
[23:02] <anew> thought you were psychic
[23:02] <loki_> and now i can't mount it
[23:02] <loki_> bekks, myabe i can format it?
[23:02] <loki_> maybe *
[23:02] <bekks> loki_: swap cannot be mounted. Just run mkswap on it, and run swapon on it afterwards.
[23:03] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: try mounting it first to see if theres an actual filesystem there.
[23:04] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: oh wait you tried.
[23:04] <loki_> so can't understand, what have uuid?
[23:04] <loki_> why my swap partition have no uuid?
[23:04] <bekks> loki_: Filesystems, like ext4 have UUIDs.
[23:04] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: maybe its an invalid swap filesystem.
[23:04] <bekks> loki_: Partitions itself never have UUIDs.
[23:05] <loki_> strange why then in fstab swap is mounted by uuid?
[23:05] <bekks> loki_: It is not mounted, it will be activated.
[23:05] <loki_> bekks, yes.
[23:05] <loki_> i meen why then swap have uuid?
[23:05] <Beldar> loki_, You have to understand that here some users are retentive on syntax IE words used and will not give an exact explanation inspite of their corrections.
[23:06] <bekks> loki_: It has a UUID when the partition contains a valid swap area.
[23:06] <bekks> loki_: If the swap area isnt valid, there is no UUID to be shown.
[23:06] <loki_> so i need to try mkswap yes?
[23:06] <bekks> loki_: Thats what I said above, yes.
[23:06] <chemist^> Hi everyone
[23:07] <nashant> I've set the launcher to auto-hide, but even when I ram the cursor right up against the side of the screen it won't show. Anyone know why?
[23:07] <chemist^> nashant, have you tried holding your mouse cursor there a couple of seconds?
[23:07] <Beldar> nashant, That autohide gui has a sensitivity bar to move.
[23:07] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: the uuid allows you to reference that swap partition in the even that drive orders have changed... i.e. a new drive installed forcing what was /dev/sdb2 to /dev/sdc2.
[23:07] <nashant> chemist^: yup
[23:08] <Psiloeu> Yoyo HitsujiTMO
[23:08] <Psiloeu> At the store looking at a card can u help me I pme u
[23:08] <loki_> hitsujiTMO, i understand why i need uuid) anyway thx. after mkswap all work now.
[23:09] <loki_> but can't understand what happened then with old working swap.
[23:09] <Psiloeu> HitsujiTMO what do u think of trednet teg pcitxr
[23:09] <Psiloeu> it says its a realtek though :-(
[23:09] <bekks> loki_: It was invalidated somehow, in the past.
[23:10] <loki_> ok.
[23:10] <chemist^> Psiloeu, alfa :)
[23:10] <Beldar> loki_, Swap needs to have the correct UUID in fstab to mount, was or is it there and correct now. Or did you turn it off?
[23:10] <loki_> i changed uuid after mkswap in fstab.
[23:10] <Beldar> cool
[23:10] <loki_> bekks was right.
[23:10] <loki_> it was broken.
[23:11] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: thats the same as what you have in the server already
[23:11] <hitsujiTMO> Psiloeu: : thats the same as what you have in the server already
[23:11] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: sorry, wrong person
[23:11] <loki_> hitsujiTMO, remeber my problem with i386?
[23:11] <loki_> i installed deb by hand.
[23:12] <Psiloeu> Ugh HitsujiTMO
[23:12] <Psiloeu> kk going to another store then now
[23:12] <mr-rich> Hello. I have an Ubuntu box (12.04) that's at the login screen and I press the acpi power to shut it off ... it doesn't seem to work ... (it's a VM and I want to shut it down via a script) ... any ideas?
[23:12] <Psiloeu> ill msg u soon
[23:12] <hitsujiTMO> loki_: ahh cool
[23:13] <mr-rich> If I'm logged in, I get a dialog for shutdown that waits 60 seconds ...
[23:13] <mr-rich> then shuts down ...
[23:14] <mr-rich> Should be able to shutdown at the login screen ...
[23:14] <Psiloeu> HitsujiTMO going to another store now Pm u soon
[23:14] <hitsujiTMO>  Psiloeu cool
[23:15] <Beldar> mr-rich, You mentioned acpi power at the login, is this the icon top right for restart or shutdown?
[23:17] <mr-rich> bel3atar: Yes, it is ... It's a VM (VBox). I'm writing a script to automate shutting down VMs in case of a power outage ...
[23:18] <mr-rich> Beldar: Yes, it is ... It's a VM (VBox). I'm writing a script to automate shutting down VMs in case of a power outage ...
[23:18] <chemist^> mr-rich this is a virtualbox related question
[23:19] <Beldar> mr-rich, You might try #vbox as well.
[23:19] <chemist^> Beldar, tnx :)
[23:19] <Beldar> ;)
[23:19] <mr-rich> chalcedony: yes and no ... If M$ is at the login screen, pressing acpi shutdown works ... It doesn't work on Ubuntu ...
[23:19] <mr-rich> dammit ...
[23:20] <mr-rich> chemist^: yes and no ... If M$ is at the login screen, pressing acpi shutdown works ... It doesn't work on Ubuntu ...
[23:20] <bekks> mr-rich: Install the guest additions in the same version as vbox.
[23:20] <mr-rich> bekks: Installed ...
[23:21] <sagi__> wow, firts time in IRC in like 18 years...
[23:21] <bekks> mr-rich: In the same version?
[23:21] <mr-rich> bekks: Yup ... just  updated them today ...
[23:21] <bekks> mr-rich: So which vbox version are you running?
[23:21] <chemist^> sagi__, cool..i came a couple of weeks ago after 15 ;)
[23:21] <chemist^> welcome back :)
[23:22] <mr-rich> bekks: 4.2.20
[23:22] <bekks> mr-rich: I'd suggest updating to the latest stable version, 4.3.6, then.
[23:23] <mr-rich> bekks: it looks like an OS thing ... M$ will shutdown @ login screen ...
[23:23] <bekks> mr-rich: your . key is defective, too.
[23:23] <chemist^> :)
[23:24] <TheAndrewK> hmm
[23:24] <TheAndrewK> what does it mean when I am told "your CPUs had inconsistent variable MTRR settings probably your BIOS does not setup all CPUs."
[23:24] <mr-rich> bekks: I'm an elipsis freak ... bad habit of mine ... :)
[23:24] <chemist^> TheAndrewK, it means you have bad CPU settings in your BIOS maybe :)
[23:25] <TheAndrewK> hm okay
[23:25] <nashant> why do I have to bind the home directory when I'm settings up nfs?
[23:26] <hitsujiTMO> TheAndrewK: you may need a bios update. most likely the cpu came out after the board was made
[23:26] <TheAndrewK> hitsujiTMO:huh weird. This was booting fine last week w/ same hardware.
[23:28] <OsTester> dose anyone know how to run Visual Studio under linux - not VM?
[23:28] <mr-rich> OsTester: Wine?
[23:28] <OsTester> dosent work...
[23:28] <hitsujiTMO> OsTester: then you cant
[23:28] <OsTester> I need 2012+
[23:29] <hitsujiTMO> OsTester: install windows
[23:29] <bekks> OsTester: Doesnt run in wine, so you have to use a vm.
[23:29] <OsTester> Thats what I thought
[23:30] <OsTester> thanks anyway
[23:30] <hitsujiTMO> TheAndrewK: could be a sign of something else going wrong then. check bios settings. any other unusual messages in dmesg?
[23:32] <Psiloeu> HitsujiTMO look at pm
[23:33] <Psiloeu> HitsujiTMO tp link tg-3468
[23:34] <jaster> I wonder how many ubuntu users have tried other distros and still decided to stay with ubuntu
[23:35] <Left_Turn> i like ubuntu
[23:35] <chemist^> Psiloeu, does it really matter that much which ethernet card you buy? I think it's OK if you buy anyone as long as it's 1000 mbit
[23:36] <chemist^> Left_Turn, me too :)
[23:36] <Left_Turn> heh
[23:36] <Psiloeu> Chemistnim having a problem with th e driver
[23:36] <Psiloeu> The etho cards didnt work
[23:36] <Scunizi> Hi all.. I have onboard old nvidia graphics (8200) running the latest drivers. I want to put in a newer nvidia pci card.  What's the recommended path? Drop card in, reboot > disable onboard in bios > boot to system ??
[23:36] <chemist^> that's strange
[23:37] <chemist^> Scunizi, install drivers first
[23:37] <chemist^> then disable the onboard card
[23:37] <Scunizi> chemist^: drivers are installed already.. :)
[23:37] <chemist^> then yes :)
[23:37] <Scunizi> cool thanks chemist^
[23:37] <Psiloeu> HitsujiTMO intel ct desktop adapter expi9301ctblk
[23:38] <chemist^> but wait... you mentioned you have the latest drivers installed for your old card...i don't know if it's the same for you new one...
[23:38] <chemist^> oh well...
[23:38] <PublicStaticVoid> Eh
[23:39] <jaster> best to purge old drivers as they may conflict with new ones
[23:40] <oushua> hi there
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> chemist^: hes an r8168 which just doesn't work with linux. he's gone to 3 shops now and every card in the shops user r8169, which again have similar issues. just managed to find an e1000 one
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> s/user/used
[23:43] <Psiloeu> HitsujiTMO im buying it now
[23:43] <chemist^> hitsujiTMO, lol :D
[23:44] <AceFace> hello all!
[23:46] <oushua> does anyone know why avidemux keep crash on ubuntu 13.10? have not had this issue on 13.04.
[23:46] <AceFace> oushua, did you upgrade or clean install?
[23:46] <glitsj16> live ubuntu support hitting the streets during winter weather offensive .. that should make news somewhere
[23:46] <oushua> clean install..
[23:47] <AceFace> just curious, i have no clue! lol
[23:47] <AceFace> whats your audio hardware?
[23:47] <Psiloeu> HitsujiTMO this is the link http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_1048_1052&item_id=022090
[23:47] <Psiloeu> Im buying it noq
[23:49] <AceFace> would anyone help me understand why my iscsi target would randomly fail?
[23:50] <AceFace> i get this in dmesg: [    8.030261] iscsi_trgt: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel
[23:55] <chemist^> is there a command in terminal to add a line to a file instead of opening it with an editor and manually adding it?
[23:55] <ROPA> oushua lots of bugs in 13.10, many programs just won't run. 13.04 won't be supported soon though and I don't know what I'm going to do.....there's a runor that 14.04 will be LTS...I sure hope it runs better than 13.10!!!!!
[23:55] <AceFace> echo "add this string to end of file" >> filename
[23:55] <hitsujiTMO> chemist^: appending to the bottom of a file or int he middle?
[23:55] <chemist^> hitsujiTMO, well..i'd like to know both :P
[23:56] <KI7MT> chemist^, echo 'line-1' > ./tempfile.txt
[23:57] <KI7MT> chemist^, then to append a line echo 'line-2' >> ./tempfile.txt
[23:57] <Beldar> ROPA, without any details that is a specious remark, and this is support not #ubuntu-soapbox
[23:58] <chemist^> line-1 is on top and line-2 on bottom of file? or are these the actual numbers of lines?
[23:58] <hitsujiTMO> chemist^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6717938/ this is how you can insert a line after the first line
[23:59] <hitsujiTMO> chemist^: if you want to do after the second, then its: 2a ... etc
[23:59] <banana2014> how do I make a RIC channel?
[23:59] <BillyZane> hi
[23:59] <chemist^> hitsujiTMO, thanks
[23:59] <HeaderFile> banana2014: just "join" to a new channel
[23:59] <PublicStaticVoid> does brazero have no option to not create a checksum... takes forever...
[23:59] <Beldar> banana2014, ask in #freenode


[13:32] <marcoceppi> Hey GUI peeps
[13:33] <marcoceppi> is there an example of what constraints look like in "ye olde" bundle format?
[13:34] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: sure thing sec
[13:34] <marcoceppi> ta, also, does the GUI export with constraints?
[13:35] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: yes, if they're not the defaults
[13:35] <marcoceppi> interesting. I guess this is an old version of the GUI then
[13:35] <rick_h_> bah, I thought the openstack bundle had them
[13:36] <rick_h_> I know hatch was just messing with that export format with constraints this week.
[13:38] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/blob/develop/test/data/mysql-deployer-mixed.yaml
[13:39] <marcoceppi> rick_h_: booya, thanks
[13:39] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: sorry, that was harder than I thought. I'll check with hatch on the export. I could have sworn it exported non-default constraints but maybe I'm wrong.
[13:39] <marcoceppi> rick_h_: no worries, I'll lset the ISV know that it's "being looked at" and update their bundle they're using to use the constraints they expect
[13:40] <marcoceppi> rick_h_: if you need me to file a bug I can get more information about the gui they're using, etc
[13:40] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: rgr sounds good. This next release we'll make sure has them as we've fixed all the colocation export/import work
[13:40] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: no, that's ok. I'll just amke sure we've got it covered in the upcoming release.
[13:40] <marcoceppi> rick_h_: ta, appreciate it dude
[13:49] <hatch> marcoceppi: rick_h_ got it all set?
[13:50] <rick_h_> hatch: just want to verify we've got constraint export in the upcoming release
[13:50] <hatch> yup it's a query string like key value pair list
[13:50] <hatch> "fooo=bar baz=baz"
[13:51] <marcoceppi> how does "5.2Ghz" translate into a constraint?
[13:51] <rick_h_> hatch: ok, we need to make sure it's exporting
[13:51] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: that's cpu-freq or something? /me checks for constraints
[13:52] <hatch> cpu-power=5.2Ghz
[13:52] <hatch> ^ rick_h_ marcoceppi
[13:52] <rick_h_> hatch: ah right -power
[13:53] <hatch> artch, cpu-cores, cpu-power, mem, root-disk
[13:53] <hatch> arch*
[13:54] <hatch> stayed up till 3am working on a new charm......*yawn*
[13:54] <marcoceppi> but power is measured in a scale of flag integers
[13:54] <marcoceppi> "0-100" where 100 is 1 ecu
[13:54] <marcoceppi> w/e idgaf about amazon's stuff
[13:54] <marcoceppi> I'll just set the ram and let aws figure it out
[13:54] <hatch> marcoceppi: sorry I don't know what valid values are, I just know about the keys :)
[13:55] <marcoceppi> <3 haha it's all good. I'm unblocked - thanks!
[13:55] <hatch> no prolem
[14:26] <marcoceppi> How does to: work?
[14:26] <marcoceppi> within a bundle
[14:27] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: https://api.jujucharms.com/charmstore/v4/bundle/openstack-base-34/archive/bundles.yaml.orig for an example
[14:27] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: --to what? the format depends a bit
[14:27] <hatch> marcoceppi: v3 or v4 format?
[14:27] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: but this is stuff that's going to depend on what you want to do and the updates to the unreleased deployer for some of it
[14:27] <hatch> marcoceppi: https://github.com/juju/charmstore/blob/v4/docs/bundles.md
[14:28] <hatch> scroll to the bottom
[14:28] <marcoceppi> well, I got an "envExport" bundle from an ISV, I assume that's v3
[14:28] <hatch> yup
[14:28] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: yes
[14:28] <marcoceppi> cool
[16:31] <frankban> uiteam, rogpeppe2: the forward port of latest changes to charmrepo.v0 is ready for review here: https://github.com/juju/charmrepo/pull/6
[16:31] <frankban> ty
[16:33] <rogpeppe2> frankban: LGTM
[16:33] <frankban> rogpeppe2: ty
[16:50] <frankban> rogpeppe2: it seems I cannot merge on charmrepo
[16:51] <rogpeppe2> frankban: really?
[16:51] <rogpeppe2> frankban: i'll add you
[16:51] <frankban> rogpeppe2: ty
[16:51] <rogpeppe2> frankban: here's another charmrepo PR: https://github.com/juju/charmrepo/pull/7
[16:52] <frankban> rogpeppe2: ty merged
[16:52] <rogpeppe2> frankban: np
[16:52] <rogpeppe2> frankban: i will now deal with the conflicts... :)
[16:53] <rogpeppe2> wot no conflicts?!
[16:54] <rogpeppe2> frankban: it all just worked woo
[16:55] <frankban> rogpeppe2: great
[16:56] <rogpeppe2> frankban: what are we going to do about this num_units fiasco?
[16:57] <rogpeppe2> frankban: i'm faced with changing the charmstore for it, and it's awkward and annoying to do
[16:57] <frankban> rogpeppe2: what change?
[16:57] <frankban> rogpeppe2: we are not changing the defaults if not specified
[16:57] <rogpeppe2> frankban: the bundleUnitCount


[00:19]  * StallMan ночи всем / good night all
[20:33] <VinceN> Evening folks, I was wondering if this was the correct place to ask a question about a specific Kernel bug?
[20:33] <crimsun> it could be, just ask.
[20:35] <VinceN> I'm concerned about a long standing bug the came up with the 9.10 release documented on launchpad under Bug #451337.  It's a cooling fan issue with an Acer Aspire series laptop.  I've been stuck using a patched -14 kernel and I keep hearing a fix is coming but nothing ever seems to materialize in the newer releases.  I'm very concerned about what those who are affected are going to do when Lucid comes out.
[20:35] <ubot3> Malone bug 451337 in linux "CPU cooling fan does not start at all" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/451337
[20:38] <persia> VinceN: Do you know if anyone affected has tested a prerelease kernel?
[20:38] <VinceN> I have contacted the Bug Maintainer, Andy Whitcroft and was advised someone had closed the bug out, it got reopened and he was going to try to find someone to work on it.  Never heard anything back.  I offered to help since I have one of the affected machines.  I'd work on it myself but i'm afraid this kind of thing is way way way way above my knowlage level.
[20:39] <VinceN> persia, Not to my knowladge, and i've been afraid to upgrade myself because my 9.10 release was unusable until the -14 patch came out.  It isn't availible in Mr Whitcrofts PPA anymore so I couln't go back if it breaks.
[20:40] <persia> VinceN: If you're affected, you might want to try downloading an lucid-beta2 ISO, and creating a bootable USB, and booting off that to see if you can replicate: this would let you leave your base system unaffected.
[20:41] <VinceN> I'd be happy to do that to see if the newer version is affected.  If it is what can I do to get this in the hands of someone who can fix it and how can I help them?
[20:43] <persia> That's harder to answer.  I know the lucid kernel is now hard-frozen, but you might have something eligible for SRU.
[20:44] <persia> But the best way is usually to communicate your testing experience with each available kernel to the bug.
[20:44] <VinceN> Ok, I will work on downloading that and testing and get back to you on that.
[20:44] <crimsun> at this point you're probably better off using the latest daily-live iso.
[20:44] <crimsun> just boot from it to test, etc.
[20:44] <persia> Oh, that's right.  There was a new kernel post-beta2.  Yeah, sorry.
[20:45] <VinceN> crimsun : Where would be the best place to get that?
[20:45] <crimsun> cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[20:45] <crimsun> (I think)
[20:46] <VinceN> Got it thanks
[20:48] <VinceN> I'll download that and try it out.  I would be so happy if we could get this fixed if it isn't already.  It's been a major pain in the neck since 9.10 came out.  Previous versions of Ubuntu worked great under this platform aside from some PulseAudio issues.  I'd be estatic if Lucid could be the perfect fit.
[20:53] <VinceN> Thank's agian guy's, I'll let you know
[23:16] <junmin> hello, please anybody could paste me the default ubuntu kernel config file? thanks
[23:18] <persia> junmin: If you're running Ubuntu, it's in /boot/config-`uname -r`
[23:18] <junmin> persia: i am not running ubuntu :s
[23:19] <persia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/417568/ is my config : might be slightly different for different flavours/architectures
[23:20] <junmin> persia: thanks let me see


[00:11] <guiverc> kudos to whomever wrote lxqt-powermanagement; it put up a grand fight & gave a great message when it decided to quit (akin to 'crashed too many times, will restart on next login')...  alas no difference in xscreensaver krytarik
[00:14] <krytarik> Okay, then I'd say just stick lxqt-session to the bug report too and see how it proceeds. :P
[03:55] <tsimonq2> Heya folks.
[03:55] <tsimonq2> How goes it?
[03:57] <kc2bez> o/ All good here.
[03:58] <kc2bez> And you?
[03:58] <tsimonq2> Pretty good. :)
[03:58]  * tsimonq2 steals a gallon of coffee from teward.
[03:59] <tsimonq2> Build needed 00:24:09, no disk space
[03:59] <tsimonq2> Hah, so I didn't need to leave that qtbase overnight.
[03:59] <tsimonq2> (I think.
[03:59] <tsimonq2> )
[04:00] <tsimonq2> Anyway, I'd like to get that handled For Realz This Time.
[04:01] <kc2bez> Good luck.
[04:01] <tsimonq2> Thanks.
[06:02] <guiverc> tsimonq2, wxl yesterday you two talked about lubuntu-default-settings (I was out in the yard) & arch:all build - does it relate or provide clue on `arc diff` wiping everything (or going wrong)?
[06:08] <tsimonq2> No, it seems to me that was a local problem you had and I couldn't quite figure it out.
[06:08] <tsimonq2> Sorry.
[06:14] <guiverc> :(
[06:15] <tsimonq2> wxl: Whatcha think about bug 1814407?
[06:36] <guiverc> tsimonq2, i could rebuild machine (clean format both parts & return it to x86_64) & re-do lubu-def-sett, but it'd take a few days - of benefit?
 I don't know that I would, maybe try reinstalling arc
[07:54] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: accepted lubuntu-default-settings [source] (bionic-proposed) [0.54.2]
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 @JyotiGomes thank you very much for your work! I appreciate it. ... For the problem with the email verification, you should contact @tsimonq2. ... Are you interested in doing also the packaging?
 @aptghetto [@JyotiGomes thank you very much for your work! I appreciate it. ... For the problem …], Thanks. To avoid errors, I ask you to do the packaging 😊
 Hey! I guess the calendar frontend needs development. It doesn't distinctively show the difference between date selected and today's date. When you click on the clock in the panel, the calendar comes up with today's date highlighted. When a user selects any other date, the calendar highlights that. Not much of a big thing but
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://i.imgur.com/0RsZZj4.jpg This is how it highlights the date selected.
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://i.imgur.com/4b52vhH.jpg It would look nice if it highlights currend date like this. Here selected date is 14 and current date is 5th
 An underline under current date would also do the job.
[11:19] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Bionic 18.04.2] (20190205) has been added
[11:19] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Bionic 18.04.2] (20190205) has been added
[11:36] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T180: Fix trusted executables AGAIN] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T180#3631
[11:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T125: The return of Desktop icons] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T125#3633
[11:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T165: use ascending sort order in pcmanfm-qt] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T165#3634
 @The_LoudSpeaker [An underline under current date would also do the job.], The calendar is pure lxqt, you should file a feature request to them
 How to do that?
 wxl: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/0.54.2
 Moar things to test :D
 @The_LoudSpeaker [How to do that?], https://forum.lxqt.org
 @HMollerCl [https://forum.lxqt.org], I will look it up.
 I got an old laptop here. Its a sony viao series
 Installed disco on it. But it isn't detecting my wifi adapter.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Installed disco on it. But it isn't detecting my wifi adapter.], Is a broadcom?
 Broadcom means??
 I can find only my ethernet device when I hit 'ip link' in terminal
 Someone senior can vet me on this but try taking a look at this article on another comp connected to the internet:
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
 I've had the same issue on an older laptop with broadcom issues but haven't had the time to fix it too, let me know if you're able to fix it as well
 Thanks! sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source fixed it for me.
 Sick you're welcome.
[18:00] <wxl> @tsimonq2: i think that bug is weird and needs further investigation, but probably needs to be pushed upstream (the byobu one)
 *pushes wxl upstream*
 :P
[18:20] <wxl> bah, that's a small fish to fry, my friend
 heh
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 (Photo, 232x54) https://i.imgur.com/J7vH3QL.jpg Thanks. To avoid errors, I ask you to do the packaging 😊 ... My need to login to phab is basically to work on translations. I think that without logging in I can not save what is translated.
 (Photo, 232x54) https://i.imgur.com/Auxyflo.jpg Here is the png image. As I said above, although it seems strange to have so much more space on the left side, for some mysterious reason plymouth ends up "pushing" the image to the right and the points end up being centralized in relation to the name. You can try putting the image in
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