[03:15] <lotuspsychje> https://freenode.net/news/freenode-is-foss
[04:02] <leftyfb> Right, nothing but blaming everyone else and saying “I have money, trust me”
[04:02] <leftyfb> I see no reason to trust this guy at all
[04:04] <leftyfb> Especially since zero people have vouched for him.


[00:06] <bkerensa> nathwill: T-shirts order is pending
[00:06] <bkerensa> :D
[00:06] <bkerensa> only cost $570
[00:14] <nathwill> eek
[03:33] <bkerensa> slangasek: Uhh who would I ping about a Debian Mailing list turning into a spam haven?
[03:33] <bkerensa> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-mt-om-devel/2012-September/thread.html
[03:34] <bkerensa> every month now nigerian spam ads
[05:29] <slangasek> bkerensa: the project owner
[05:30] <bkerensa> slangasek: k
[05:30] <slangasek> https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-mt-om/
[18:15] <P_Riggs> test
[18:16] <bkerensa> P_Riggs: Test not found
[18:17] <bkerensa> :D
[18:17] <bkerensa> morning nathwill
[18:18] <P_Riggs> Just "testing" this connection out during lunch... Setting it up ect...
[18:25] <bkerensa> P_Riggs: No worries :)
[18:25] <bkerensa> How did you find Ubuntu Oregon?
[18:26] <P_Riggs> I went to Last Fridays meeting - thank U for asking.
[18:29] <bkerensa> cool
[18:32] <P_Riggs> CHAT
[18:33] <P_Riggs> Still setting up Preferences inside Xchat.
[18:41] <MaskilPDX> Good morning
[18:42] <P_Riggs> quit
[18:45] <P_Riggs> I'm back - changes required restart.
[18:47] <blkperl> slangasek: can you slip vi into the debian installer it would make life so much easier
[18:47] <blkperl> nano is infuriating to use when you system is broken
[18:48] <slangasek> blkperl: no, sorry :)
[18:48] <blkperl> :P
[18:53] <P_Riggs> Thanks It's working - See some of ya this Friday.
[19:00] <bkerensa> blkperl: nano FTW!
[19:00] <bkerensa> :D
[19:00]  * bkerensa is actually considering switching to vi
[19:00] <bkerensa> still on the fence
[19:03] <bkerensa> slangasek: How is the Hilton? :)
[19:03] <bkerensa> No windows I hear
[19:04] <slangasek> yes, all Ubuntu in here
[19:06] <blkperl> bkerensa: you have so much to learn.
[19:06] <blkperl> vimtutor
[19:06] <blkperl> is your friend
[19:08] <bkerensa> blkperl: the biggest hurdle for me is vim has more keystrokes to do things
[19:09] <bkerensa> like closing vi is two keys right?
[19:17] <tgm4883`> bkerensa, I switched to VIM s few months ago
[19:17] <bkerensa> hmm
[19:17] <tgm4883`> way better than nano
[19:17] <tgm4883`> oh, and real vim, not the crappy vim-tiny that ships with ubuntu
[19:18] <bkerensa> LOL
[19:18] <bkero> vim-minimal
[19:18] <bkero> vim-notyourmoms
[19:18] <tgm4883`> vim-ihateyouandnowihaveapuppetmanifesttoinstallreadvimonallourservers
[19:18] <blkperl> bkerensa: no, you can :x
[19:19] <bkerensa> thats two keys
[19:19] <bkerensa> : and x
[19:19] <bkerensa> Ctrl+x is much quicker
[19:19] <bkerensa> requires one hand
[19:19] <tgm4883`> bkerensa, ctrl+x is two keys?
[19:20] <bkerensa> well yes
[19:20] <tgm4883`> granted :x is three key presses
[19:20] <bkerensa> =/
[19:20] <bkerensa> yes
[19:20] <bkerensa> so one more keystroke plus two hands required
[19:20] <bkerensa> that is fail
[19:20] <bkerensa> nano just needs more sexy
[19:20] <bkerensa> if I could get a nice color scheme that would be nice
[19:20] <tgm4883`> searching is nicer too
[19:22] <bkerensa> hmm
[19:22] <bkerensa> what is wrong Ctrl+W
[19:22] <bkerensa> always works fine for me
[19:23] <bkerensa> or can you search more than one file?
[19:23] <bkerensa> can you bind vim to certain keys? can I make it mimic nano?
[19:24] <tgm4883`> bkerensa, IDK
[19:24] <tgm4883`> bkerensa, searching in vim
[19:24] <tgm4883`>  /searchterm
[19:24] <tgm4883`> one key ;)
[19:30] <bkerensa> slangasek: https://code.launchpad.net/~bkerensa/ubuntu/quantal/weston/fix-control/+merge/124143
[19:30] <bkerensa> so I was trying to push a patch to Debian last night for Weston
[19:31] <bkerensa> however when I debcheckout its giving a error about "ref HEAD"
[19:31] <bkerensa> and git clone does the same
[19:48] <bkerensa> Hi MaskilPDX
[20:29] <slangasek> bkerensa: that means the git repo isn't set up sanely :P
[20:30] <bkerensa> slangasek: ok well then I well use that excuse for not pushing a patch upstream
[20:30] <bkerensa> :D
[20:31] <bkerensa> nathwill: http://i.imgur.com/sMJ5P.jpg <-- Kegbot
[20:31] <slangasek> bkerensa: you can use whatever excuses you like, but that doesn't change our obligations to do the right thing by Ubuntu as a whole when deciding whether to carry deltas
[20:32] <bkerensa> slangasek: well how can I submit a patch if I cannot get the source package?
[20:32] <slangasek> bkerensa: oh, this is an X-team package? hmmm
[20:32] <bkerensa> =/
[20:32] <bkerensa> yes
[20:32] <slangasek> you don't get source packages using debcheckout
[20:32] <bkerensa> why not?
[20:32] <bkerensa> oh
[20:32] <slangasek> you get source branches using decheckout
[20:32] <slangasek> source packages are 'apt-get source', or... that other thing I forget
[20:32] <bkerensa> apt-get source pulls from Ubuntu though
[20:32] <slangasek> one sec while I get the command name
[20:33] <slangasek> bkerensa: pull-debian-source <package>
[20:33] <bkerensa> k
[20:34] <bkerensa> slangasek: pull-debian-source: Error: Unable to find weston in Debian suite "sid".
[20:34] <bkerensa> how do I specify experimental?
[20:34] <bkerensa> I am unsure why I want to send a patch upstream anyways
[20:34] <bkerensa> we already have a newer version of weston in Ubuntu then Debian Experimental
[20:35] <slangasek> bkerensa: oh, experimental only?  no idea then
[20:35] <bkerensa> it seems like we are maintaining the package even
[20:35] <bkerensa> no idea why dholbach suggest a patch
[20:35] <slangasek> bkerensa: so 'debcheckout' will still /work/, you just have to manually select your branch afterwards
[20:36] <slangasek> debcheckout weston; cd weston; git branch -a
[20:36] <slangasek> then git branch debian-experimental origin/debian-experimental
[20:36] <slangasek> then git checkout debian-experimental
[20:42] <bkerensa> slangasek: and can you remind me how to generate a patch for debian based on the changes I make there
[20:43] <nathwill> git format-patch master?
[20:44] <slangasek> bkerensa: git add ; git commit; git format-patch HEAD^
[20:44] <slangasek> bkerensa: there is no master :)
[20:44] <nathwill> ah
[20:44] <slangasek> er, nathwill ^^
[20:44] <nathwill> wonder if that's a political statement
[20:45] <bkerensa> lawl
[20:45] <bkerensa> slangasek: can I use submittodebian to send that patch?
[20:45] <bkerensa> the one generated
[20:46] <slangasek> bkerensa: you can do that too; in that case, dch, describe the change, debuild -uc -us -S, submittodebian
[20:47] <bkerensa> slangasek: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address
[20:47] <bkerensa> =/
[20:47] <bkerensa> how do I bypass that
[20:47] <bkerensa> oh wtf
[20:47] <slangasek> by not having 'ubuntu' listed in $DEBEMAIL
[20:48] <bkerensa> =/
[20:48] <bkerensa> yes but that clearly will not work since I use a ubuntu e-mail?
[20:48] <bkerensa> =/
[20:51] <slangasek> no, you just unset the DEBEMAIL variable
[21:53]  * tgm4883` sighs
[21:54]  * tgm4883` just sat though 2 hours of FERPA presentation because someone thought moving to google apps is a FERPA violation :(
[22:16] <nathwill> interesting theory...


[00:25] <CIA-37> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3650 auto-update/ubiquity/auto_update.py: list ubiquity last to avoid apt trying to select another frontend
[17:03] <mterry> superm1, I have ISO, btw
[21:33] <mozmck_work> I built a custom livecd based off the 9.10 ISO, with a custom kernel based off the ubuntu 2.6.31-15 sources.  I was able to boot the livecd and run programs without any problems, but after I installed on the hard drive it would hang with a black screen instead of booting.
[21:33] <mozmck_work> Then I installed from the standard 9.10 ISO and the computer booted fine.
[21:34] <mozmck_work> When I built the kernel the default setting was gz compression, and I had to unpack and recompress the initrd with lzma compression to get the livecd to work.
[21:35] <mozmck_work> my question is, could the problem with installation be that I should have selected lz compression in the kernel setup?
[22:15] <mozmck_work> anyone here?


[14:29] <pleia2> PaulW2U: wow, that was quick :)
[16:48] <PaulW2U> pleia2: Yes it was, thanks to Chris. Let's hope he sticks around :)
[16:52] <nhandler> pleia2: I should have a new publishing script for you to try out tomorrow. It should produce identical output to the old one.
[20:28] <pleia2> jose: handling moving things to the wiki tonight and doing stats? make sure you download the latest uwn code repo for nhandler's fixes, and the LoCo Events script :)
[20:28] <pleia2> I can publish tomorrow
[20:30] <jose> pleia2: great, will do that in a bit!
[20:33] <pleia2> thanks, I'm off to visit ailing grandmother in-law <3


[00:44] <xclaesse_> Hmm, adding .desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications/ doesn't get picked by g-s in 17.10
[01:09] <JanC> xclaesse: yeah, I saw that too
[01:09] <JanC> (if anyone knows an alternative?)
[01:49] <jbicha> xclaesse: JanC: it works fine here
[02:07] <JanC> actually, the thing it didn't pick up for me was related to MIME types IIRC
[02:10] <JanC> I would have to check again
[02:11] <JanC> or maybe that was because I don't use nautilus since it's broken too...
[02:11] <JanC> I need to re-investigate  :)
[02:16] <JanC> (nautilus is broken by upstream design AFAIU, but that doesn't really make a difference to me)
[04:55] <jibel> good morning
[05:05] <duflu> Morning jibel
[05:05] <jibel> Hi duflu
[07:05] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers!
[07:06] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN
[07:08] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[07:18] <didrocks> good morning
[07:22] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[07:25] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN, ça va ?
[07:25] <doko> oSoMoN: could you ignore that one test failure for now, like you do on other archs?
[07:30] <oSoMoN> didrocks, ça va, et toi?
[07:30] <didrocks> ça va bien :)
[07:30] <oSoMoN> doko, possibly
[07:31] <oSoMoN> I guess that's the quickest way of unblocking libreoffice in bionic
[07:31] <oSoMoN> but it's not just a test that's broken, actual functionality will be broken too
[07:31] <oSoMoN> so I'm not very fond of that option
[07:32] <doko> yes, it's entangled with the haskell transition now
[07:37] <oSoMoN> I'll ping upstream to see if we can expect a fix soon, otherwise I guess we'll just ignore the test failures for now
[07:54] <duflu> Oh.   Though the lack of a window makes the study a bit cold :)
[08:58] <willcooke> I've bought in an electic heater for now
[08:58] <didrocks> lack of a window?
[08:59] <willcooke> The builders took the window out and put some blocks in its place.  They don't provide much insulation it seems
[08:59] <willcooke> which is odd, because the old window was rotten and had holes in it
[08:59] <didrocks> but still more effective that the block, interesting…
[08:59] <didrocks> than*
[09:00] <willcooke> yeah, I found that surprising
[09:01] <didrocks> I guess you tried adding curtains to at least prevent the wind for blowing in?
[09:01] <didrocks> from*
[09:01] <willcooke> I was going to add some normal loft insulation and a bit of board, but I didnt get time/inclination yet :)
[09:01] <willcooke> the colder it gets, the more I will care
[09:01] <willcooke> didrocks, great post on the hub, thanks
[09:02] <seb128> willcooke, time to go work in the couch :)
[09:02] <willcooke> once the kids go out :)
[09:02] <Laney> hey ho
[09:02] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[09:02] <didrocks> willcooke: yw! let's see how this goes :)
[09:03] <didrocks> hey Laney
[09:03] <didrocks> willcooke: how long before they replace the window?
[09:03] <didrocks> I guess it all depends on that ;)
[09:03] <willcooke> didrocks, sounds like before Christmas, the order went to the factory on Monday
[09:05] <didrocks> yeah, so worth doing something in the interim…
[09:06] <willcooke> As seb said, probably just move to the couch
[09:06] <willcooke> :)
[09:29] <Laney> hey willcooke seb128 didrocks
[09:29] <Laney> seb128: got a puncture on my bike >:(
[09:29] <Laney> otherwise good
[09:29] <Laney> you?
[09:29] <seb128> oh :-/
[09:30] <seb128> I cut my left thumb while cooking yesterday evening
[09:30] <seb128> otherwise good as well :)
[09:30] <Laney> oh no
[09:31] <Laney> was it a bad one?
[09:31] <czajkowski> ouchies!
[09:32] <seb128> not too bad, I didn't need to go to get it fixed
[09:32] <seb128> I can't use the thumb much though, need to let it rest or the cut reopens
[09:32] <seb128> at least typing on the keyboard is fine :p
[09:33] <czajkowski> seb128: do you use your thumb for the space bar ?
[09:33] <seb128> yes, but the outside side and the cut is on the inside one
[09:33] <seb128> :)
[09:33] <czajkowski> seb128: productivity shall remain at 100% so :p
[09:34] <seb128> indeed :p
[09:34] <czajkowski> have you allsee many of the FOSDEM dev rooms have CFPs open
[09:34] <seb128> I didn't, thanks for pointing it out
[09:35] <czajkowski> https://fosdem.org/2018/news/2017-10-04-accepted-developer-rooms/
[09:35] <czajkowski> seb128: I have a use - I idle in here and randomly offer a snippet of info :)
[09:35] <seb128> :-)
[11:32] <willcooke> didrocks, for Code In - do you have a doc, or a tag in LP or something which people contribute ideas to?
[12:23] <seb128> hub is quite active, quite some discussion already on the theme post from Didier
[12:25] <willcooke> yeah it's looking good
[12:25] <willcooke> It did make me think that maybe the time is right to move the mailing list there
[12:26] <willcooke> we're getting many more people contributing on the hub than the mailing list
[12:32] <seb128> willcooke, you mean pointing the people to use discourse in list mode if they want a list-type interaction (like the snapcraft forum is doing)? I guess that would make sense, maybe just send an "intend to ..." email to the list first to say that's coming?
[12:35] <xclaesse> I made a fresh install of 17.10 and ~/.local/bin is not in my PATH by default. I think it was there in 16.04, no ?
[12:36] <xclaesse> seb128, is that an intentional change?
[12:38] <seb128> xclaesse, hey, I don't think it is
[12:45] <seb128> that would need debugging to figure out what changed
[13:20] <willcooke> seb128, sorry was at lunch, yeah exactly that
[13:47] <didrocks> willcooke: for code in, I posted on the corresponding hub, but you can add more :)
[13:52] <willcooke> didrocks, looking for a place for our team to add, I'll point them at the hub, thanks!
[13:52] <didrocks> willcooke: ah, our team, there is a google doc before I put the list on the hub, but I feel the hub is better suited anyway
[13:52] <didrocks> willcooke: I'll look there, planning to register them in the system next week on the system
[14:59]  * Laney enables bionic mirror and gets 68G of debs + sources to download /o\
[15:01] <willcooke> kenvadine, you missed an N
[15:01] <kenvadine> whoops :)
[15:02] <kenvadine> can't even spell my own name :)
[15:02] <kenvadine> crap keyboard
[16:43]  * oSoMoN goes to a Barcelona Free Software meetup
[16:43] <oSoMoN> have a good evening everyone!
[17:17] <JanC> someone needs to update the photos/screenshots on https://www.ubuntu.com/desktop
[17:17] <Laney> they're screenshots of the LTS
[17:18] <Laney> unless you mean the wrong icon for Software :-)
[17:24] <JanC> is the LTS really installed more than 17.10 at this point?
[17:26] <genii> do-release-upgrade -d is currently ineffective from 17.10, but manually changing sources.list works without issue.  See https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-desktop/+bug/1731318
[18:55] <jackpot51> Patches can be found here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=777538#c6
[21:16] <Astral> ?
[21:16] <Astral> ??


[00:30] <phillw> Jesse1984:  have you tried using Envyng to get your ATI driver for you ?
[00:32] <Jesse1984> phillw, no, whats that ?
[00:34] <phillw> it is like hard-ware drivers, you get it, you update your system, then see if it can find a compatible driver, there's some stuff on it over here --> http://ubuntuguide.net/install-nvidiaati-graphics-card-driver-in-ubuntu-910karmic   maybe worth a try ?
[00:34] <Jesse1984> awesome, ill look into that now, thanks
[00:35] <phillw> I recall that  sudo apt-get update can add drivers to the HardWare section of System --> Admin
[00:36] <Jesse1984> ok, thanks
[00:36] <phillw> (I'm 10.04 lubuntu, not 9.10 ... but I've certainly had good results with the sudo apt-get update, followed by checking the HardWare Drives for others.
[00:37] <Jesse1984> do you know of a way to restore the vga settings to default, as they were when i first installed ? then maybe i can set low power mode for the graphics card so it doesnt overheat..
[00:39] <phillw> is it the fglrx one that you're after ?
[00:39] <Jesse1984> to be honest i dont know, im a total newbie to all of this, i think thats the one it uses by default isnt it ?
[00:41] <phillw> okies, head over to http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=333  There is a sticky there with information on it & you can also post questions to the sticky or to the that section. I don't have an ATi card, so I cannot give you "How I got it working" - but there'll be people there who can :-)
[00:43] <Jesse1984> thanks! ill see if it can follow it up with them.. now my wifi isnt working.. argh! i didnt get the keychain prompt on boot like normal...
[00:49] <ARC0112358> RDP client keeps getting closed - worked fine last night...  today I can't connect to server.
[00:51] <ARC0112358> ping www.msn.com
[01:42] <Jesse1984> does anyone know how to force ubuntu into VGA mode or a low video mode when booting ?
[01:46] <pedro3005> Jesse1984, maybe you could uninstall the drivers via a live cd?
[02:20] <Phrea> arent there cheat codes for Ubu [like there are for Knoppix]?
[02:22] <pedro3005> phillw, what do you mean cheat codes?
[02:25] <Phrea> when booting Ubu, at command prompt
[02:26] <Phrea> something like screen=1024x800 etc
[03:38] <geirha> Phrea: vga=ask
[03:39] <geirha> Add that to the kernel line, right after «quiet splash»
[13:39] <mongoosedog> hey guys back with anther stupid question probably, trying to burn an audio cd, but some of my songs are .wma gnome baker and brasero won't play the game, any advice?
[15:26] <ShadowKnight> hi,i had a quick question. what is xubuntu and kubuntu?
[15:27] <switchgirl> seb around?
[15:28] <elfy> ShadowKnight: they are versions of ubuntu using a different desktop environment - xubuntu uses xfce and kubuntu uses kde - ubuntu uses gnome
[15:28] <elfy> hi switchgirl - no idea - never heard of him
[15:28] <ShadowKnight> elfy: is there any uses to them? i was looking into them and was wondering if they are any good
[15:30] <elfy> they are all different and have uses :) I personally prefer gnome - but I have played with both of the others, if you want to look you can install them into ubuntu and choose to use the others at login
[15:30] <ShadowKnight> you can? how can you do it?
[15:31] <elfy> 2 secs
[15:32] <elfy> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php - on the left hand pane - at the bottom "Playing Around"  instructions on how to install and get rid of kde and xfce
[15:33] <elfy> though bear in mind that your current menu will become a LOT bigger :)
[15:33] <ShadowKnight> lol okay then i will. ive seen screenshots and it does look big. so is this just like an add on for ubuntu or its own separate system?
[15:33] <elfy> ShadowKnight: I tend to download the isos now and install in a virtual machine
[15:34] <ShadowKnight> what virtual machine do you use?
[15:34] <elfy> they are not addons - when you choose to run them at login - you are running that variant
[15:34] <ShadowKnight> hmmmm okay then
[15:34] <elfy> virtual box - not the OSE version but the one from the sun site
[15:35] <ShadowKnight> alright then, imma go look into that then :) thanks
[15:35] <elfy> your're welcome :)
[16:34] <ShadowKnight> hello, i have a question. i just uninstalled kubuntu and now im running into this problem:
[16:34] <ShadowKnight> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[16:34] <ShadowKnight> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[16:38] <Joeb454> ShadowKnight: did you try running what it said
[16:38] <ShadowKnight> i did but it didnt let me type in my password
[16:40] <elfy> it's invisible - type it and enter
[16:42] <ShadowKnight> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place< thats the last line it has do i wait for it to finish?
[16:42] <ShadowKnight> because its not moving from there and its been a couple of minutes
[17:17] <AJHunter> is there a way to set up a private file sharing system that doesn't require you to set up a server and can transfer from Linux to Windows or Mac OS X?
[17:26] <AJHunter> hello?
[17:26] <elfy> hello
[17:27] <elfy> I use 2 desktops here - one serves the other media files - but I have no win or mac to deal with
[17:28] <AJHunter> hmm... That... would make this difficult for you... for once, google didn't have all the answers. I checked.
[17:29] <ikt> how private does the file sharing system need to be?
[17:29] <ikt> afaik mac has samba so using the typical samba shares should work
[17:34] <AJHunter> umm... Just like, people-in-my-family private
[17:38] <ikt> yeah then a samba should be fine
[17:38] <elfy> I'd agree with that
[17:38] <ikt> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/easy-file-sharing <- would be nice if someone resurects that project, might make a forum post
[17:47] <duanedesign> /5/5
[17:47] <duanedesign> d'oh
[18:01] <Silver_Fox_> Goodbye.
[18:01] <AJHunter> okthxbai!
[18:44] <switchgirl> i need adviceon who to talk to about a comment - abuse - on Launchpad
[18:45] <switchgirl> actually ignore me
[18:45] <switchgirl> sorry
[18:45] <pedro3005> switchgirl, https://help.launchpad.net/Feedback#Inappropriate%20content
[18:46] <switchgirl> i re - read the comment
[18:46] <pedro3005> oh
[18:46] <switchgirl> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+question/103579 << skim reading the last comment
[18:47] <pedro3005> Oh man
[18:47] <switchgirl> huh?
[18:47] <pedro3005> I was just reading about the recent drs305 leaving and other team members...
[18:49] <pedro3005> And I began to remember when I was merely a beginner here, like two (?) years ago... The channel was way more active, everyone would talk and this would be a chill out chatter... In fact that's why I stuck around.. Now, the team feels cold. Very... official, worried. It's not just friends hanging out and helping beginners anymore
[18:50] <switchgirl> yeah i think the mistake was made in the last 2 months
[18:50] <switchgirl> this chan is now a support chan
[18:50] <pedro3005> switchgirl, we've gone too official and bureaucrat
[18:50] <switchgirl> and that kills any sence of being able to talk
[18:50] <pedro3005> And what's worse...
[18:51]  * switchgirl gives a understanding smiles
[18:51] <pedro3005> The helping of beginners has not improved... Dare I say it worsened.
[18:51] <switchgirl> yup
[18:51]  * switchgirl waves as shes been here and WANTS to learn but is a beginner
[18:51] <pedro3005> Many questions unanswered, ignored.
[18:52] <switchgirl> how long have i been here pedro3005?
[18:52] <pedro3005> switchgirl, I don't remember... hm.. 3-4 months?
[18:53] <switchgirl> nearly a year or more, and what have i learned? next to nothing as the stuff folk talk about is either too technical or not expained in end user terms
[18:53] <switchgirl> see i need to learn - im living well below the poverty line
[18:54] <switchgirl> and yet no one seems to be very proactive
[18:54] <switchgirl> so i dont try as hard as i used to
[18:55] <pedro3005> switchgirl, and there's so many inactive members
[18:55] <switchgirl> compiledkernel tried, bless him, as did some others but i didnt get it the whole "how to set up a repository" thing
[18:55] <pedro3005> And what I mean by active is sticking around this channel and answering questions, giving help.
[18:56] <pedro3005> compiledkernel, curse him :P I still haven't lost the trauma
[18:57] <pedro3005> switchgirl, do you mean add a repository to your apt list or set up your own repository?
[18:57] <switchgirl> to be able to answer questions you have to have a basic understanding of the system. i have yet to grasp this
[18:57] <switchgirl> set up your own repository
[18:57] <pedro3005> switchgirl, wouldn't a PPA do it?
[18:59] <switchgirl> no i mean taking 50gb of hard disk space and setting up a network repository so that all machines on your network have a repository to update fropm
[18:59] <switchgirl> not the ppa or external ones - i agree its a REALLY cool thing if you know what your doing
[19:01] <pedro3005> switchgirl, ah, well, wouldn't know then
[19:01] <pedro3005> sorry
[19:02] <switchgirl> see :) it are hard
[19:02] <switchgirl> but anyway it was not compiledkernel's fault i was / am really bad
[19:02] <switchgirl> i should go read the manuals
[19:03] <switchgirl> brb i shall start
[19:03] <switchgirl> actually umm
[19:03] <switchgirl> one question
[19:03] <switchgirl> pedro3005: how to check a zip with a md5?
[19:04] <switchgirl> 0b4fa10a6f4995b3e2f729454c1462b6 <that MD5 sum to be prosise
[19:04] <pedro3005> switchgirl, so that is the sum it's supposed to be?
[19:05] <switchgirl> i just d/l the ubuntu pocket guide
[19:05] <switchgirl> and now have no idea how to check it with a .zip
[19:05] <pedro3005> switchgirl, so basically, the place you downloaded it from should give you the sum
[19:06] <switchgirl> *check the .zip with this 0b4fa10a6f4995b3e2f729454c1462b6
[19:06] <switchgirl> that is the sum
[19:06] <pedro3005> switchgirl, then you go on a terminal and type 'md5sum filename.zip'. then you see if it's equal
[19:07] <switchgirl> do you have to change to that directory?
[19:07] <pedro3005> switchgirl, well of course
[19:07] <elfy> switchgirl: are you talking about an apt-cache?
[19:09] <switchgirl> elfy: i think so it was AGES ago
[19:09] <switchgirl> :s
[19:09] <switchgirl> DarkwingDuck and compiledkernel run the project
[19:10] <elfy> :) I'll be looking into that once lucid has released as I will have 3 machines here all at the same version - finally ;)
[19:10] <switchgirl> i mean a project that is supposed to show everything on ubuntu and how EVERYTHING works
[19:10] <elfy> what project is that?
[19:10] <elfy> oic
[19:10] <elfy> :)
[19:11] <elfy> well if once I have fought with apt-cache and won you want some information I will be happy to help
[19:12] <switchgirl> but again very technical and as the most geeky thing i can claim to have is steel train track braces - age 21- and a certified user of Microsoft office 2003 word (thats the product ms word not me trying to be down wid da kidz and all  that shizzl
[19:12] <switchgirl> i really need to know the basics
[19:13] <elfy> what basics?
[19:13] <switchgirl> hence why am reading the pocket guide
[19:13] <switchgirl> and saving for the online lessons
[19:14] <elfy> the stuff I know I learnt by breaking things and having to fix them - or they were things I needed to do so learnt those
[19:14] <elfy> I don't learn well from manuals so found it easier to do it that way
[19:15] <lukjad86> switchgirl Hi there. Long time no see
[19:16] <lukjad86> Hah
[19:16] <switchgirl> sorry switching clients
[19:17] <switchgirl> irssi so i can read two things at once
[19:18] <pedro3005> lukjad86, no one stands you
[19:18] <pedro3005> yay
[19:20] <switchgirl> lukjad86: hi
[19:21] <lukjad86> Hi switchgirl
[19:21] <lukjad86> I'm lagging ferociously here, so I'm not ignoring you if you don't see me say anything
[19:36]  * switchgirl shuts down and re orginises cables before reading as she is distracted by them...... grrrrrrrrr ocd-ness (i mock it cus it's true :'(
[19:54] <xfact> I am currently on Lucid Lynx alpha 3
[22:01] <GarmaZed> Hey fellow beginner-chatters.
[22:02] <elfy> hi GarmaZed
[22:05] <drubin> hi GarmaZed
[22:05] <serverduck> Hi GarmaZed !
[22:06] <GarmaZed> Has anyone had any success with wireless sharing across computers, even with Windows+Linux?
[22:07]  * elfy bows out at the mention of wireless ..
[22:07] <GarmaZed> Yeah, it's something I've tried a while ago when considering going all Ubuntu on the notebook.
[22:07] <GarmaZed> I just couldn't get it to happen for whatever reason, wanted to know if anybody ever had a successful go at it.  :P
[22:15] <bodhi_zazen> GarmaZed: sharing how ?
[22:15] <bodhi_zazen> Samba works, as does NFS, ssh (sshfs)
[22:15] <GarmaZed> Sharing files and maybe printers across a wireless infrastructure network, like through the router.
[22:18] <michae1> just curious, no stupid questions here, right?
[22:18] <elfy> indeed so michae1
[22:18] <michae1> alrighty then...
[22:18] <michae1> here goes
[22:20] <michae1> not much on the open source, and was sugested by a friend to use ubuntu desktop ( not much for the command line, so am trying to stick with the gui )as a server to solve some master browser issues I'm experiencing. is there a tutorial that I can follow to show me how to get desktop to act like a server?
[22:21] <elfy> nothing to stop you installing the server and adding the necessary on top of it, I have 2 desktops at home - 1 I use to serve media - I guess it depends what you are after
[22:23] <michae1> I'm just trying to find a simple solution to several win xp boxes and one win 7 box that are causing a serverless network to get bogged down to the point where files on a nas are getting corrupted.
[22:25] <michae1> If I understood what you said there elfy, I could install the server kernel and then the desktop gui on top of that to administer the server?
[22:26] <bodhi_zazen> GarmaZed: Samba will do that for you, that is what I use
[22:26] <bodhi_zazen> michae1: Install server edition
[22:26] <bodhi_zazen> Then add webmin
[22:27] <elfy> michae1: listen to bodhi_zazen - he'll know more than I
[22:27] <bodhi_zazen> http://www.webmin.com/intro.html
[22:27] <bodhi_zazen> Most of the apps on a desktop you do not need on a server
[22:27] <bodhi_zazen> so, you can install a desktop , and add in server soft ware, nothing wrong with that
[22:28] <bodhi_zazen> but if you want a dedicated server, webmin gives you a graphical interface
[22:28] <bodhi_zazen> you should invest some time in learning ssh, nano / vim , and bash
[22:30] <GarmaZed> bodhi_zazen: I'll look into it again, last time I tried I could get them to see each other across a network, but could not get them to share anything, or access each other.
[22:31] <bodhi_zazen> GarmaZed: is one of the boxes wired ?
[22:31] <GarmaZed> They both were connected wirelessly.  One a Win7 64-bit desktop, back then the other was a 64-bit Ubuntu or Linux Mint notebook.  Now the notebook is 32-bit Ubuntu.
[22:34] <bodhi_zazen> Some wireless routers seem to have problems with wireless and Samba.
[22:34] <bodhi_zazen> GarmaZed: are you familiar with ssh ?
[22:35] <michae1> bodhi_zazen: I'm looking for the easiest 'quick' fix for right now, I guess that 's why this was suggested to me. I know the network is going to grow pretty rapidly in the next few months and they have nothing in the way of an admin to fix problems like the master browser timing out problem. as I get the time between problems, I want to set up a more stable and reliable server for their environment. I'm just a design
[22:35] <michae1> guy who knew a very little something about networking.
[22:35] <GarmaZed> Not very, no.  I am in the beginners channel, right?  :P
[22:35] <bodhi_zazen> If so, install ssh onto your Ubuntu box, and you can connect with Winscp (from windows) or mount a share with sshfs (Ubuntu)
[22:40] <GarmaZed> I'm headin' off for a while, thanks for the chat
[22:45] <ShadowKnight> hey, i was wondering. can you change your login screen for ubuntu? and can you have multiple pictures alternating as a background?
[22:46] <bodhi_zazen> Yes , but not easily ShadowKnight
[22:46] <bodhi_zazen> depends on the version of GDM / KDM
[22:46] <ShadowKnight> so how long would it take to do? i was seeing if its worth it. i have the newest one i think
[22:46] <bodhi_zazen> ShadowKnight: http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=150
[22:47] <bodhi_zazen> but that is the old version
[22:47] <ShadowKnight> hmmm okay. i went to a similar website thats why i was asking about this
[22:50] <ShadowKnight> i went to here. http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter
[22:56] <bodhi_zazen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1292533
[22:59] <ShadowKnight> hmmm okay thanks :)
[23:03] <ShadowKnight> so any way to get the pictures though? or should i just create a slideshow and try to do it through there?
[23:37] <serverduck> warning: The VAD has been replaced by a hack pending a complete rewrite
[23:37] <serverduck> What is this?
[23:38] <canthus13> serverduck: Prolly some programmer's warning that he just cobbled the code together well enough to make it work, but don't be surprised if it breaks.
[23:39] <serverduck> canthus13, Thank you so much sir.
[23:40] <canthus13> No prob.