[01:26] <zombienerd> I upgraded to 16.04 yesterday from 14.04.  No issues until about 20 minutes ago when I adjusted the master volume in pavucontrol.  Since then, my Volume notification bubble will not go away.  It keeps popping up, disappearing for 2-3 seconds, then returning.
[01:27] <zombienerd> I returned the pulse volumes to normal, but the dang bubble just decided it likes its new home.
[01:51] <catintheroof> guys, im using xubuntu 16.04 on a macbookpro 8.2, on xubuntu 14.04 the microphone worked like a charm, but on 16.04 it does'nt, any experiences ?
[02:06] <catintheroof> guys, im using xubuntu 16.04 on a macbookpro 8.2, on xubuntu 14.04 the microphone worked like a charm, but on 16.04 it does'nt, any experiences ?
[02:25] <xubuntu28w> i can not insert tildes in any program of xubuntu 16.04, please help me.
[02:27] <xubuntu28w> please, answer me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>. Thanke you.
[02:49] <Cubey> Hello. I am have an odd problem getting a Xubuntu disc (any, actually, new or old version) to boot up on an old Dell workstation. It shows the loading screem but then boot loops
[02:56] <Cubey> At first I thought it was the used graphics card I bought today since it does show colored lines on some screens like BIOS but not all. might be the monitor support or something. i booted a Win 7 disc and it loaded to the GUI  for installation fine, so I don't think it's the graphics card
[03:35] <Cubey> hmm, ok maybe it is the video card to some degree. they sold it to me with a 30 day warranty (a local area store) but the card has written on the black plastic part over the fan, in black marker "BAD GPU/RAM?" i guess they didn't see that
[03:35] <Cubey> too bad
[03:35] <Cubey> I tried putting new thermal compound but it hasn't helped, still has the lines
[03:36] <Cubey> So, I'll take it back next week when I'm up that way again.
[03:37] <Cubey> huh, funny how Damn Small Linux boots and looks fine.  guess i'll try xubuntu again
[03:55] <Cubey> huh! I got ubuntu already on an ol HDD install to boot up finally
[04:01] <Cubey> and now won't again. haha
[04:04] <Cubey> yeah it's a bad video card i guess. oh well. $20 store credit for another card
[04:37] <Cubey> very strange indeed. ubuntu and the like hates it but windows and damn small linux don't mind it
[04:53] <Cubey> Maybe there is something about  this video card that ubuntu (debian?) hates
[04:54] <Cubey> well, let's try a win7 install just to see.
[07:17] <xubuntu77w> hallo
[07:17] <flocculant> hello
[07:18] <xubuntu77w> does anyone know how to get gnome online accounts working in 16.04???
[07:18] <xubuntu77w> it doesnt seem to work for me
[10:23] <Xanderfied> question
[10:23] <Xanderfied> Would Menulibre prevent you from upgrading to 15.10 from 14.10?
[10:23] <Xanderfied> I just had to purge it out of the system for that reason
[10:24] <Xanderfied> very strange
[10:25] <Xanderfied> also everytime I went to upgrade previously it held ML back from the upgrades
[10:26] <xubuntu49w> help
[11:23] <sim642> Does xfce4-terminal have no visual bell?
[11:44] <sergioamorim> hello! I need help with my USB mouse driver
[11:46] <sergioamorim> after a while when I plug the mouse, the computer shuts down
[11:46] <sergioamorim> the computer overheats sometimes too
[11:50] <sergioamorim> even the mouse is plugged in
[13:32] <zombienerd> I just upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04.  My volume notification bubble won't go away.  It stays on the screen most of the time, but will disappear for 1-2 seconds occasionally.  Any idea on where to start troubleshooting this issue is appreciated.
[14:34] <grudo> hey
[14:35] <grudo> I have a problem with sound in xubuntu, can someone help me please?
[14:38] <GridCube> grudo: what kind of problem?
[14:39] <GridCube> !details
[14:40] <zombienerd> I just upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04.  My volume notification bubble won't go away.  It stays on the screen most of the time, but will disappear for 1-2 seconds occasionally.  Any idea on where to start troubleshooting this issue is appreciated.
[14:41] <zombienerd> For now, I just turned notification opacity to 0 so it doesn't show, but it bothers me that I know it's there, hiding, and taunting me.
[14:43] <GridCube> zombienerd: do you see the same issue in the guest session?
[14:43] <zombienerd> Haven't checked.  I will do that shortly.
[14:44] <zombienerd> If it's not doing it in guest session, where would I start?  And if it is?
[14:45] <grudo> sorry I went afk for a minute
[14:45] <GridCube> if the guest session works, i'd remove, or rename, ~/.config/xfce4/ to ~/.config/xfce4.old for example and try relogin, so all defaults for xubuntu desktop are restored
[14:46] <zombienerd> Thanks!  I'll check and try that the next time I log out/in
[14:46] <GridCube> (in general i just like to have a clean ~/.config)
[14:46] <GridCube> and then migrate configs i like, like hexchat's or smplayer manually
[14:49] <grudo> the problem is no sound is being played I followed a little guide and I checked the modules and if the sound card (I'm not sure if thats what it is called) is being detected and everything seemed to be fine but still no sound is being played
[14:51] <grudo> If what I'm saying is a bit unclear I can provide logs or configuration files just tell me where it is located :)
[14:52] <GridCube> grudo: open pavucontrol and see if while you play some sound you see bars moving around
[14:53] <grudo> alright just a second
[14:53] <grudo> yes they were moving
[14:54] <GridCube> under the moving bar you see a drop down menu, see if you are streaming sound to hdmi instead of analog
[14:54] <GridCube> or viceversa
[14:55] <GridCube> also check that you have plugged some sort of speaker to the soundcard
[14:55] <grudo> I only have Built-in analog stereo
[14:57] <GridCube> ok, in the last tab of pavucontrol you have several setup options, try changing the defaults to see if there is one that fixes your issue, also check that your speakers are on and with their own volume up
[14:58] <GridCube> grudo: as you see that the bars are moving in pavucontrol you now know that sound streams are going out, you just have to figure where they are going and whats happening next
[15:00] <grudo> I can't find the default button, in the last tab (configuration) there is only a drop menu but even when I change the selected thingy from the menu nothing gets displayed
[15:02] <grudo> I will try some headphones maybe its a hardware issue
[15:03] <GridCube> sorry i could not be of more help grudo
[15:03] <grudo> yep headphones worked
[15:03] <grudo> thanks for trying :)
[15:04] <GridCube> P:
[15:04] <GridCube> oh well, see XD the stream was going somewhere
[15:04] <grudo> yes you were right
[15:05] <grudo> I'm sure that its not hardware issue because I was using linux mint and sound was working amazingly
[15:06]  * GridCube has no idea
[15:07] <GridCube> if it works with the headphones it should work with the speakers
[15:07] <grudo> *shrug*
[15:07] <GridCube> even more so given the speakers have their own powersource
[15:07] <zombienerd> Is this a laptop or a desktop?
[15:07] <grudo> laptop
[15:07] <zombienerd> So the internal speakers aren't working?
[15:07] <grudo> exactly!
[15:08] <GridCube> oh, have you tried to use the fn mute button?
[15:08] <zombienerd> Under COnfiguration in Pulse control, under "Built-in Audio" what are the options in the drop down box?
[15:10] <grudo> Analog Stereo Duplex, Analog Stereo Output and Analog Stereo Input
[15:10] <grudo> and off
[15:10] <zombienerd> Do Analog Stereo Output, then move to the Output Devices tab
[15:10] <zombienerd> There is a Port: listing, what's listed under that?
[15:11] <grudo> speakers
[15:11] <zombienerd> And that slider underneath is turned up to 100?
[15:11] <grudo> yes
[15:11] <zombienerd> Plug in your headphones, and see if that port changes to Headphones
[15:12] <grudo> it changed
[15:12] <zombienerd> Hmm..  As far as I can tell, it should work :)  Is there a hardware volume control on your laptop?
[15:12] <zombienerd> What model is it?
[15:12] <grudo> NB505
[15:13] <grudo> do you mean fn+button?
[15:13] <zombienerd> Toshiba!  I had that same model.
[15:13] <zombienerd> The FN+Volume is usually just a software control, I don't believe the 505 has a hardware volume control
[15:14] <grudo> I will probably just use the headphones
[15:15] <zombienerd> The speaker on that thing is tiny, I never liked it.  Try driving all the volume levels to +150 in Pavucontrol and see if you can hear it then
[15:15] <grudo> just a second
[15:16] <grudo> I still can hear nothing :'(
[15:16] <zombienerd> Was it working before you installed Xubuntu?  The speaker itself could be broken
[15:16] <grudo> yes it was working
[15:16] <grudo> wait I don't remember that I was using it at all
[15:16] <zombienerd> Hmm.  Wish I still had mine so I could try to reproduce the issue.
[15:18] <zombienerd> I've gotta run.  Good luck.  Maybe look on ebay and see if anyone is selling a speaker for that model.  Otherwise, stick to the headphones :)  That little speaker was quieter than most cellphones anyway.
[15:18] <grudo> alright thanks for trying :)
[15:18] <grudo> I will probably get a new laptop since new softwares require better hardware
[15:35] <Noneatme> hello all, how can I remove the old mousepad config?
[15:37] <Noneatme> fixed it
[19:01] <beowulf_> everything works great with the live cd execpt my UHD display. Will only show 1024x768. xrandr output is not complete. Doesn't detect my DPs.
[19:02] <beowulf_> btw. im using 16.04 64bit live cd. My machine has 2x 980 Ti's and one connected UHD monitor.
[19:27] <fuboy> hello i just made an apt update and all my icons have disappeared I tried selecting different icon theme but still, i am not able to get any icons on my desktop
[19:28] <bekks> fuboy: Did you log out and back in?
[19:29] <fuboy> yes I did and i also restarted my pc but still no icons
[19:30] <Unit193> Might be interesting to know what version of Xubuntu and if any PPAs are being used.  Also, you simply mean desktop icons?  Perhaps xfdesktop isn't running?  You could try to rm -r ~/.cache/sessions/
[19:31] <GeekDude> fuboy: Have you checked the desktop icon settings? Right click on the desktop, press "Desktop Settings", switch to the "Icons" tab, and check the "Icon Type" drop down
[19:33] <fuboy> i am using 16.04, I am using numix-icon PPA which I removed and then reinstalled but with no result and 'rm -r ~/.cache/sessions/' I already tried that too didnt work and all the icons are gone not just desktop
[19:34] <fuboy> Icon type is set to file/launcher
[19:36] <fuboy> here is a screenshot http://i.stack.imgur.com/xJACr.png
[22:36] <xubuntu82w> Hello everyone.....
[22:36] <xubuntu82w> :)
[22:37] <xubuntu82w> I....   Was wondering if someone could help me with Minecraft stuttering on Xubuntu.....   :)
[22:38] <xubuntu82w> It didn't stutter on Mint, and my Laptop is new, with a lot of power.....   :)
[23:12] <SergioEDuran1> Hi friends
[23:12] <zombienerd> 'lo
[23:12] <SergioEDuran1> enjoying the IRC with Polari 3.20 :)
[23:13] <zombienerd> Xchat here.  Xchat-gnome to be specific, as it seems good old xchat didn't make the 16.04 repos
[23:14] <SergioEDuran1> it is amazing but it could be better if it had the option to store my NickServ identification in the data vase
[23:14] <SergioEDuran1> (polari)
[23:14] <SergioEDuran1> gnome xchat is good but has not a good design nor natural copy / paste functions
[23:15] <zombienerd> Seems to copy/paste naturally for me :)
[23:16] <SergioEDuran1> I see
[23:16] <SergioEDuran1> so has some improvements over xchat
[23:16] <SergioEDuran1> interesting
[23:17] <zombienerd> Perhaps.  First day using it.
[23:17] <zombienerd> Interface is a bit different.
[23:17] <SergioEDuran1> a little bit
[23:17] <SergioEDuran1> what I recommend you if your alias is not registred is to use Polari
[23:18] <SergioEDuran1> the official GNOME IRC app with headerbars and a much better design
[23:18] <zombienerd> I'll take a look next time I'm restarting.
[23:18] <krytarik> !xchat | zombienerd
[23:19] <zombienerd> Roger that.
[23:20] <SergioEDuran1> if only polari had password storing for the NickServ identifications with not need of Empathy maybe polari could be my only and default GTK IRC client
[23:20] <SergioEDuran1> http://i.imgur.com/U6wNtFF.png
[23:21] <SergioEDuran1> it also has image uploading based on imgur
[23:21] <SergioEDuran1> you only paste the image on the text box and polari manages it to be uploaded to imgur
[23:21] <SergioEDuran1> something I really love
[23:27] <SergioEDuran1> zombienerd: what do you think?
[23:27] <zombienerd> That's a nice feature.
[23:29] <SergioEDuran1> the only problem with my Xubuntu desktop after the update to GTk3.20 is that nm-applet does not starts automatically so I need to run it manualy
[23:29] <zombienerd> I'm having odd sound system glitches since I upgraded to 16.04, but I'm working on tracing them down.
[23:29] <kr4x> hello :)
[23:29] <zombienerd> Hello
[23:30] <kr4x> powertop disable my usb' ports
[23:30] <kr4x> how i can fix it?
[23:30] <kr4x> using --auto-tune on /etc/rc.local
[23:31] <zombienerd> That's out of my wheelhouse, maybe someone else will jump in.
[23:32] <SergioEDuran1> helo kr4xk
[23:33] <SergioEDuran1> I am in the same situation as zombienerd


[15:10] <ubot5`> In #ubuntu-discuss, Belzeboobs said: ubot5`: Man is designed to learn mostly by mistakes, therefore embarrassment is a vital part of the human equation.
[15:13] <Pici> er, okay.


[17:53] <soundconjurer> How do you install it?
[17:54] <soundconjurer> I have a Nokia N800, and I have no clue how to install it.
[17:57] <lool> soundconjurer: We don't support arm at the moment
[17:59] <soundconjurer> oh, ok


[00:06] <volty> Hi, guys. Last night I installed kubuntu-18.04, and today I woke up with a dead computer. Was going to throw it and buy a new one
[00:06] <volty> Switched on and no video signal, no other signs of life except the fan.
[00:06] <volty>  After hours of trying, I came with the idea of googling for ubuntu bios corrupt after installation, and found that it happens with some computers since version 17.
[00:07] <volty> That's to tell you friends, and to press on developers to warn people that with some computers the bios could become corrupted.
[00:08] <volty> The prob. is really annoying. I was going to order a new pc since I couldn't determine if it's fault of video card, cpu, motherboard, or psu.
[07:19] <HaMsTeRs> Hello guys, I'm new to KDE.  May I know is there anyway to disable middle click to paste stuffs?   Also, I'm using surface pro touch pad, is it possible to change two finger touch as right click?  thanks
[07:35] <fareast> I was running gnome 2 now I am in kde
[07:35] <fareast> what are my choices
[07:35] <fareast> what about gnome 3
[07:35] <fareast> or should I just stick to kde
[07:47] <valorie> fareast: that depends on what you like
[07:47] <valorie> there is no one right answer for everyone
[07:47] <valorie> although if it's a look you are going for, plasma can *look* like anything you want
[07:48] <valorie> it can look like gnome or windows 10 or win 7 or whatever
[07:48] <valorie> macos
[08:14] <lordievader> Good morning
[11:34] <HaMsTeRs> Hello guys, I'm new to KDE.  I actually likes it, but it seems to be a bit buggy.  Currently I'm running Kubuntu.  Would there any chance that Neon is better?
[11:44] <diogenes_> HaMsTeRs, you expect someone to tell you that neon is better on kubunru channel?
[11:48] <lordievader> HaMsTeRs: Can you describe why it is 'a bit buggy'? Neon is using newer packages, which are usually less tested that those on Kubuntu. Hence Neon might be buggier than Kubuntu.
[11:50] <diogenes_> also neon guys don't really care about security
[11:51] <diogenes_> there have been many reports of security holes
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[17:16] <oshunluvr> Is there a way to make kscreen use a specific resolution for a monitor? Mine keeps revery to 75Hz whcih results in a black screen. I need 60hz
[19:22] <tmroland> hi
[19:22] <tmroland> i installed ubuntu server and added kubuntu-desktop with tasksel, now kde does not detect network connections even though im connected
[19:22] <tmroland> why is this happening


[13:48] <elopio> la_juyis: ready?
[13:48] <elopio> I have 45 minutes before my next meeting.
[13:49] <elopio> alesage: you wanted to pair-program today too, right?
[14:10] <la_juyis> elopio, oops, sorry ,just saw this
[14:10] <la_juyis> let's do it
[14:12] <elopio> la_juyis: ok, I'll call you.
[14:42] <alesage> elopio, oops a little early for me :/
[15:08] <elopio> ping ubuntu-qa: can somebody review this one, please?
[15:08] <elopio> https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/slider-autopilot_helper/+merge/222311
[15:08] <robotfuel> elopio: I will
[15:08] <elopio> thanks.
[15:27] <elopio> la_juyis: on test doubles: http://blog.8thlight.com/uncle-bob/2014/05/14/TheLittleMocker.html
[15:37] <la_juyis> elopio, thanks :)
[15:39] <robotfuel> elopio: review is finished with a small needs fixing,
[15:49] <elopio> thanks robotfuel
[15:49] <elopio> but I don't get your comment.
[15:50] <elopio> you would like a single test that selects the 4 values ?
[15:50] <robotfuel> elopio: you are already testing a negative number with -10 so the -5 is redundant
[15:52] <elopio> robotfuel: no, -10 and 10 are the extreme values.
[15:53] <elopio> -5 and 5 are intermediate values. They need to be tested too because sometimes we could be able to select the extremes and not the others. Or viceversa.
[15:53] <robotfuel> you have a value in the middle with the float. so -10 covers the negative number test
[15:54] <elopio> the float covers a different case, that's being able to select a float that falls into an integer pixel slot.
[15:55] <elopio> in order to check that my assumption that the slider is a linear equation of the values with respect to the pixels, I think that having the two extremes and two intermediate values is the safe bet.
[15:59] <robotfuel> elopio: can you make the negative number a negative float and the postitve number the float?
[16:00] <robotfuel> elopio: that makes it more interesting with 1 less test
[16:01] <elopio> robotfuel: I can, but I still feel more confident having a test for 5 and -5.
[16:01] <elopio> actually, after your last message I would like to add one extra for a negative float
[16:02] <robotfuel> if you feel like we would be able to select a float and not an integer then keep the -5 5 tests
[16:04] <elopio> robotfuel: I think that for some combinations of slider size and screen resolution, and integer value might not fall into a pixel slot. Thus, we could select some floats but not some ints.
[16:04] <robotfuel> elopio: ok add the - float and I will +1 :D
[16:05] <elopio> I haven't found an example of that, but for that and to check the formula for quadruplicate, I don't mind having to wait an extra 3 seconds.
[16:10] <robotfuel> elopio: if we test a random integers between -9 -1 and 1 9 for the tests, it could give us wider coverage.
[16:10] <robotfuel> og oy
[16:10] <robotfuel> oops
[16:12] <elopio> robotfuel: we shouldn't put random values on the tests because then they are no longer reproducible.
[16:12] <elopio> if we are not confident with the partitions that we have selected to test, we should run tests for all the possible values.
[16:13] <elopio> but in this case, I'm confident with the partition. And if an unexpected thing happens with a value that we are not testing, it's easy to add a regression test for it.
[16:26] <robotfuel> balloons: lp:~vthompson/ubuntu-filemanager-app/fix-null-error-1316677 are you the person to talk to about making sure this lands?
[16:28] <balloons> robotfuel, sure I can make sure that happens
[16:28] <balloons> it's not proposed
[16:28] <balloons> why does it need to land?
[16:29] <balloons> fixes the null error.. so the qml error.. good I guess


[06:56] <oops> hi, anyone knows how to get /proc/sys/net/bridge/bridge-nf-call-iptables inside an LXD? I've added br_netfilter to the LXD config, but it didn't help.
[08:22] <cnf> morningmorning
[11:26] <cnf> hmm, https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1681495 is getting no love :/
[11:26] <mup> Bug #1681495: add juju lxd proxy configuration <juju:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1681495>
[11:29] <cnf> also https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1681435
[11:29] <mup> Bug #1681435: juju retry-provisioning should support containers <juju:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1681435>
[11:59] <rick_h> cnf: yea, not there yet
[11:59] <cnf> rick_h: on which one?
[12:00] <cnf> 1681495 is severely hampering my ability to deploy atm :/
[12:45] <cnf> hmz, so can't deploy with a proxy set, can't deploy without one set
[12:45] <cnf> great
[12:49] <cnf> rick_h: the combination of those 2 really has me stuck in a catch22
[12:50] <rick_h> cnf: :( understand.
[17:43] <rick_h> juju show 15ish minute warning!
[17:43] <rick_h> get your coffee refills now
[17:48] <cholcombe> Trefex: so basically the reason to install ceph-dash from canonical is that is decodes ceph's rpc messages over the wire and can tell you the read/write sizes and what objects they're writing to.  There's a lot of other stuff it shows but that's the big differentiator
[17:48] <rick_h> H/O is https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/3bgmb2u3szfunetelpz5m6olnqe and the stream to view is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_VhVffbooU for those coming along for the ride.
[17:49] <rick_h> marcoceppi: jrwren lazyPower hatch ^
[17:50] <marcoceppi> rick_h: in an airport, next time ;)
[17:50] <rick_h> marcoceppi: doh safe travels
[17:50] <rick_h> hopefully somewhere nice :)
[18:00] <rick_h> mbarnett: ^
[18:00] <rick_h> sorry, mbruzek
[18:00] <rick_h> tab-fail
[18:00] <mbarnett> np
[18:01] <mbruzek> rick_h: We are kind of busy right now
[18:01] <mbruzek> I may not be able to join
[18:01] <rick_h> mbruzek: ok, all good
[18:06] <marcoceppi> rick_h: home, which is always nice
[18:14] <mbruzek> I hit the wrong button


[00:53] <ibook_powerpc> Hello, I am interested in testing Ubuntu and creating bug reports. Can anyone help me?
[00:55] <ibook_powerpc> Is it possible for me to help test Ubuntu releases.
[00:59] <ibook_powerpc> Hello?
[01:01] <ibook_powerpc> how can I help find bugs in Linux?
[07:27] <pksadiq> Where do I need to file a mistake in Keyboard layout of my language?simply ubuntu bug, is it related to Ubuntu Translation team?
[07:43] <pksadiq> Where do I need to file a mistake in Keyboard layout of my language?simply ubuntu bug, is it related to Ubuntu Translation team?
[08:11] <xelister> ok so the ubuntu kernel upgrade in maverick to 2.6.38 is toasted
[08:12] <xelister> it kills dropertiary ati driver.   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10854316
[08:12] <xelister> this appears unresolved problem?
[08:22] <cwillu> maverick has a 2.6.38 kernel?
[08:23] <xelister> 2.6.38-10-generic
[08:24] <xelister> Get:1 http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick Release.gpg [72B]
[08:24] <xelister> it would seems so, cwillu
[08:24] <cwillu> !info linux-meta maverick
[08:24] <ubot4> cwillu: Package linux-meta does not exist in maverick
[08:25] <cwillu> !info linux maverick
[08:25] <ubot4> cwillu: linux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.36 (maverick), package size 5 kB, installed size 32 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia all armel)
[08:25] <xelister> hm?
[08:26] <xelister> i   linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic                                          - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.38 on x86/x86_64
[08:26] <xelister> ii  linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic     2.6.38-10.44                      Linux kernel image for version 2.6.38 on x86/x86_64
[08:28] <cwillu> I'm guessing you installed it from another ppa?
[08:28] <xelister> nope...
[08:28] <xelister> wtf.
[08:28] <xelister> how to check where from it was installed?
[08:28] <cwillu> check your /etc/sources.list and /etc/sources.list.d/
[08:28] <xelister> yeah, just maveric there
[08:29] <xelister> how to verify from what repo it was installed?
[08:29] <cwillu> synaptic | origin might tell you something
[08:29] <xelister> indeed it is not in my current packages...  E: I wasn't able to locate file for the linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.
[08:29] <cwillu> if it's in "local", then you installed it via debs directly
[08:29] <xelister> could dpkg -i  of ati drivers pooled that kernel in?
[08:30] <cwillu> no; dpkg -i doesn't download dependencies, so unless you included it on the dpkg -i line...
[08:30] <cwillu> oh, you know what
[08:30] <cwillu> do you have -proposed enabled?
[08:31] <cwillu> if so, you really should be subscribed to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:31] <xelister> yes :[
[08:31] <cwillu> so that you get lovely notices like these
[08:31]  * xelister *@&$#!%^!
[08:31] <cwillu> "Today we released another round of Linux kernel updates to
[08:31] <cwillu> lucid/maverick/natty-proposed. However, the proposed natty update
[08:31] <cwillu> (2.6.38 based kernel) was accidentally copied to lucid-proposed and
[08:31] <cwillu> maverick-proposed, and thus had been on the master archive.ubuntu.com
[08:31] <cwillu> between 09:00 and 14:00 UTC."
[08:32] <xelister> was accidentally copied to lucid-proposed ....  :don't care face:
[08:32] <cwillu> "-proposed" is for those wanting to help test updates, not just a fancy way to get things a bit quicker
[08:32]  * xelister :seriously: ???
[08:32] <cwillu> you're rapidly losing my sympathy
[08:32] <xelister> so is ubuntu ;)
[08:32] <cwillu> if you don't want things to break, don't enable proposed
[08:32] <cwillu> don't blame this on ubuntu
[08:32] <xelister> downgrading to normal kernel is possible?
[08:33] <cwillu> google for the text I pasted, you'll find instructions
[08:33] <cwillu> and then disable -proposed
[08:33] <xelister> then reinstall debian ;)
[08:33] <cwillu> "you must be this tall to use the package manager" :p
[08:34] <cwillu> what, the folks who disabled the random number generator in openssl?
[08:34] <cwillu> people make mistakes.  experimental repositories are for catching those mistakes
[08:35] <cwillu> if you enable the experimental repositories, you're going to find things break once in a while
[08:35] <cwillu> let me guess, you also use btrfs (without backups), and whine to the list when the experimental filesystem eats your data?
[08:35] <xelister> btrs was fun to do that
[08:36] <xelister> I should really stop testing new linux software other then the one I actually develop
[08:37] <xelister> *fs
[08:38] <cwillu> lol, that was you in #btrfs
[08:38] <cwillu> and in fact we had this same conversation :p
[08:48] <xelister> yeap, milions of broken things to bumb into
[08:53] <xelister> ha it literally costed me 25 usd
[08:54] <xelister> first time I can calculate production loss so detailed -> stoped bitcoin generation ;)  Anyway, funny bug good that it is resolved... so I had to look into the Natty's amd-dont-work bug a bit earlier thanks to it.  Btw, so now on 11.04 amd's fglrx does work without problems, are theses .38 patches applied tehre
[10:07] <maxb> If a bug is a real bug, but is a bug in d-i, so cannot be fixed without an image respin, is it appropriate to Won't Fix it? If so, please do so to bug 681396
[10:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 681396 in preseed (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "auto url=autoserver fetches wrong preseed file (squeeze, not maverick/natty/oneiric) (affects: 3) (heat: 20)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/681396
[14:46] <jibel> pedro_, Hi
[14:47] <jibel> pedro_, I get bug 790613 on Oneiric, do you think it's accerciser's fault or a problem with the gnome transition?
[14:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 790613 in gnome-python (Debian) (and 1 other project) "accerciser crashed with AttributeError in __main__: 'module' object has no attribute 'PARAM_APP_DATADIR' (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/790613
[14:56] <pedro_> jibel, seems a packaging issue according to the upstream bug
[14:56] <pedro_> jibel, hello btw :-)
[14:57] <pedro_> jibel, lets close the accerciser task and track it at the gnome-python
[14:57] <jibel> pedro_, k
[15:01] <seb128> pedro_, what packaging issue?
[15:01] <seb128> gnome-python is deprecated anyway
[15:01] <seb128> it should not be used
[15:02] <pedro_> seb128, bug 790613
[15:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 790613 in gnome-python (Debian) (and 1 other project) "accerciser crashed with AttributeError in __main__: 'module' object has no attribute 'PARAM_APP_DATADIR' (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/790613
[15:02] <pedro_> at the upstream tracker they say it's a packaging issue
[15:03] <seb128> can you mention it on #ubuntu-desktop?
[15:03] <pedro_> done
[16:09] <bdmurray> charlie-tca: I think that's a script that makes kernel bugs confirmed fwiw
[16:09] <charlie-tca> oh
[16:10] <charlie-tca> seemed like a better answer than "this is the wrong place to demand a fix", though
[16:30] <brendand> i'm looking at nautilus bugs. looks like this bug could be considered triaged:
[16:30] <brendand> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/662258
[16:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 662258 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Nautilus list view file rename text displays badly (affects: 11) (heat: 55)" [Low,Confirmed]
[16:30] <brendand> reproducible and has importance set
[17:09] <brendand> I think this bug is 'Medium' importance because it is a usability issue that does not limit the functionality of a core application:
[17:09] <brendand> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/783534
[17:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 783534 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Move to Workspace have to be pressed twice (affects: 4) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[17:11] <pedro_> brendand, i don't think that's a nautilus issue
[17:12] <brendand> pedro_ - can i ask why?
[17:12] <brendand> pedro_ - do you reckon compiz then?
[17:13] <pedro_> brendand, cause nautilus is not a window manager, that's probably a compiz bug
[17:13] <pedro_> brendand, yup sounds like it
[17:15] <brendand> pedro_ - i'm suspecting now it only happens the first time you do it within a session. logging out to check
[17:19] <brendand> dang, now i can't reproduce it :(
[17:34] <shimi_chen> I think bug 794507 should be marked as wishlist
[17:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 794507 in ubuntu "the user can hardly notice if a printer is offline [UI bug] (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/794507
[18:38] <lifeless> bah, shimi has left
[18:39] <lifeless> they are moving bugs to launchpad that are nothing to do with Launchpad other than circumstantially
[18:39] <lifeless> :(
[20:36] <alexsn> hey guys, is there a bug with unity where super+1-9 keys doesn't work?
[20:37] <alexsn> on natty that is