[03:56] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: I never do apt-get upgrade  because it breaks
[03:56] <disturbed> liquidten2 won't boot, xserver doesn't load.
[03:56] <ubuntu> |Sivik|, ?
[03:56] <|Sivik|> the dpkg one
[03:56] <ubuntu> |Sivik|, how about that card?
[03:56] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: ooh ok if you look you have two windows
[03:56] <liquidten2> disturbed:  you don't need xserver to boot though.  you can still edit the file by loging in through the terminal, and then doing a "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[03:57] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: yes
[03:57] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: the left is your hardisk the right is the zen hardisk
[03:57] <liquidten2> disturbed: you could also do an apt-get install lynx so that you have a browser to use to help you.
[03:57] <disturbed> liquidten2 See, I'm a Linux Illiterate Newb...
[03:57] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: ok
[03:57] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: that makes sense
[03:57] <disturbed> liquidten2 Ok, so, reboot onto my other drive, type in "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... and then what?
[03:58] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: no you will see two arrows in the middle <=   =>  you use them to transfer highlighted songs too and from the hardisks
[03:58] <ubuntu> |Sivik|, how about that card?
[03:58] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: so in the gnomad2 windows, the left is the hd and the right is the mp3 player
[03:58] <linux_galore> now*
[03:58] <|Sivik|> ok
[03:58] <liquidten2> disturbed:  Wait, what does fdisk -l say, and then what does df -h say.  Also, these are two hard drives in the same PC right?
[03:58] <ubuntu> |Sivik|, hi
[03:58] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: patience, let me look
[03:58] <Badm4n> hello any1 know the good pop3 mail catcher for my ubuntu server ? ( i want to download my email from my other mail server ) but it can use with webbased interface
[03:58] <ubuntu> thanks
[03:59] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: up the top right you can change the path on your system hardisk
[03:59] <liquidten2> disturbed:  or rather, what does 'sudo fdisk -l" say >_>
[03:59] <PORDO> has anyone gotten tapioca to run?
[03:59] <disturbed> fdisk -l says nothing, and df-h says that I'm on hdb1, and this is my 2ndary hdd, and yes, 2 harddrives in the same PC...(3 actually, but the 3rd has yet to be formatted)
[03:59] <liquidten2> disturbed:  ok then try this
[03:59] <disturbed> whats the link to Pastebin, and I'll show you fdisk
[03:59] <liquidten2> disturbed:  "sudo mkdir hda1"    "sudo mount /dev/hda1 hda1"
[04:00] <liquidten2> disturbed:  "sudo gedit hda1/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[04:00] <disturbed> sweet, it worked.
[04:00] <disturbed> But.
[04:00] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: if you highlight one song then press the shift, down arrow then click on the  => arrow in the middle, it will bulk copy songs across
[04:00] <disturbed> I'm on hda1.. >.<
[04:00] <disturbed> the problem, revolves in hda0
[04:01] <liquidten2> disturbed:  there is no hda0 >_>
[04:01] <disturbed> well.. ergh..
[04:01] <liquidten2> did my last command bring up an xorg.conf?
[04:01] <disturbed> when I go to boot on my other harddrive.. (the one that's currupt).. I have to go into BIOS and select harddrive 0
[04:01] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: if you on USB 1 like me though it can be slow
[04:01] <disturbed> yes.
[04:01] <liquidten2> Then you're fine
[04:02] <disturbed> it brought up the one within' hda1, in which I am on..
[04:02] <disturbed> because my name on both harddrives, are different, this one is Disturbed, the other one is Pyrotic..
[04:02] <liquidten2> You're fine
[04:02] <disturbed> Ok.
[04:02] <liquidten2> what does /etc/mtab say then
[04:02] <liquidten2> You hsould have an hdb and an hda
[04:02] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: the second tab allows you to manage your playlist names  ie add edit rename create new ones
[04:03] <ubuntu> on Ubuntu 5.04
[04:03] <disturbed> Whats the link to pastebin.. and I'll show you what mtab says
[04:03] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: downoad http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-4349.html
[04:03] <ubuntu> what command to mount a fat32 ?
[04:03] <liquidten2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:03] <liquidten2> also paste in the xorg.conf file.
[04:03] <Badm4n> ubuntu webmail can pop3
[04:03] <ubuntu> |Sivik|, is it driver for my card?
[04:03] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: yes
[04:03] <linux_galore> mount -t vfat /dev/hda1  /windows
[04:04] <ubuntu> thanks |Sivik|
[04:04] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: yw
[04:04] <tonyyarusso> Badm4n: Uh, what?
[04:04] <nickrud> Badm4n, ditto
[04:04] <|Sivik|> ubunut: you know you have to chmod +x filename.run before you can install right
[04:04] <Badm4n> hello any1 know the good pop3 mail catcher for my ubuntu server ? ( i want to download my email from my other mail server ) but it can use with webbased interface
[04:04] <linux_galore> ubuntu make sure /windows exists before you run it though ie mkdir /windows
[04:04] <Badm4n> tonyyarusso
[04:05] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: does that make sense
[04:05] <ubuntu> linux_galore, i am on live cd
[04:05] <ubuntu> and it ask me root
[04:05] <disturbed> linux_galore ok, here is the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13954
[04:05] <twysted> ubuntu> use sudo
[04:06] <tonyyarusso> Badm4n: Hmm, not really sure, but 'apt-cache search webmail pop3' returns a handful of results that you might want to look at/
[04:06] <ubuntu> thanks
[04:06] <linux_galore> disturbed: did you install the old 76** series nvidia driver like i said
[04:06] <disturbed> linux_galore no because I could not locate it.
[04:07] <liquidten2> disturbed: ok, you are fine
[04:07] <Badm4n> any1 have other idea with spesific packaged ?
[04:07] <linux_galore> disturbed: let me get the link
[04:07] <Badm4n> btw thx tonyyarusso
[04:07] <liquidten2> disturbed:  The geforce 2 mx 400 IS supported in new releases
[04:07] <liquidten2> as far as i know that is
[04:07] <liquidten2> disturbed:  post your /home/disturbed/hda1/etc/X11/xorg.conf file in the pastebin
[04:07] <disturbed> liquidten2 Oh, Ok. well.. hat do I do to fix the xserver error at boot...
[04:07] <disturbed> k. one sec.
[04:08] <nickrud> Badm4n, a common path is fetchmail to get mail off the server, running a mail server with procmail to drop mail into an IMAP mail store. A lot of web mail interfaces can read that well
[04:08] <disturbed> liquidten2 but isn't it hdb1 the xorg.conf file I want?
[04:08] <liquidten2> nope
[04:08] <linux_galore> disturbed: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7664.html
[04:08] <Badm4n> ok ok thx
[04:08] <disturbed> liquidten2 because it's my other harddrive that won't boot because of the server error...
[04:08] <disturbed> linux_galore ok thanks
[04:08] <ubuntu> twysted: hi, what is password of root?
[04:09] <Badm4n> btw when i install apache2 why it would run my curl script ? ( when i use xampp it's working ) &  why when i open http://<IP_ADDRESS>/~team it always rekuest to download my index.php.... but if i type http://<IP_ADDRESS>/~team/index.php it show my webpage
[04:09] <liquidten2> http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html
[04:09] <Kadran> ubuntu: the root acount is disabled by default
[04:09] <liquidten2> Geforce 2 MX 400 is DEFINATLEY on that list
[04:09] <liquidten2> unless my eyes are deceiving me
[04:09] <disturbed> liquidten2 - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13955
[04:09] <twysted> ubuntu> no root password use sudo
[04:09] <Kadran> ubuntu: you don't neet root, just type sudo
[04:10] <linux_galore> liquidten2: yeah but doesnt work trust me i have the card, also the 5200 card sux too and thats on the same list for the 8*** series drivers
[04:10] <ubuntu> thanks
[04:10] <liquidten2> linux_galore: i have a 5200 and am running 8178 on <IP_ADDRESS>, at perfect speeds to, or as perfect as i can with this card
[04:10] <Kadran> ubuntu: you are welcome
[04:10] <dudemanbro> when i install programs, like kaptain, where should i unpack the files?
[04:11] <ubuntu> why my discs show as hdd5, hdd6, .. that is not hda5, hda6, ..?
[04:11] <linux_galore> use a 8*** series nvidia driver with a 5200 card and its slow as snot, swap back to the older 76** or 71** driver and its quick as hell
[04:11] <Kadran> hi i have installed windows and need grub to add it to the boot menu?
[04:11] <twysted> Kadran> did you install windows before or after ubuntu
[04:11] <delmar> nickrud, well.. that didn't seem to help at all. on top of that the menu button to run thunderbird is broken now... but im sure thats easily fixed.. but the same problem occurs.. click on an email in the top window.. and the preview pane is showing something totally different.
[04:11] <Kadran> ubuntu: that's mean you have 4 ide device
[04:12] <Kadran> twysted: windows after kubuntu
[04:12] <dudemanbro> does anyone know where new programs should be unpacked?
[04:12] <ubuntu> twysted, only ubuntu
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> Kadran: update-grub?
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> dudemanbro: What do you mean?
[04:12] <twysted> Kadran> your suppose to install windows THEN ubuntu, but you can do a update-grub
[04:12] <ubuntu> Kadran, all them are on the same partition
[04:12] <twysted> ubuntu> change your damn nick i wasnt talking to you
[04:12] <dudemanbro> tonyyarusso, so i dld kaptain, and i was wondering where i should put it when i unpack it
[04:13] <disturbed> liquidten2 did you check the xorg file?
[04:13] <dudemanbro> tonyyarusso, like is there a folder where all this stuff is supposed to go?
[04:13] <twysted> dudemanbro> is it a deb file?
[04:13] <liquidten2> disturbed: i can't really guess what the error is based on that file.  It looks OK from what i can see, so the only thing i can figure is that there was an error while installing the nvidia driver.  You're going to have to reboot and memorize the error
[04:13] <nickrud> delmar, a sec
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> dudemanbro: What type of file did you download?  I'm not sure what you mean by unpack.
[04:13] <dudemanbro> twysted, no, .tar.gz
[04:13] <Kadran> twysted: i have done update grub the cat menu.lst but now windows there
[04:13] <liquidten2> disturbed: wait, post /home/disturbed/hda1/var/log/Xorg.log
[04:13] <dudemanbro> tonyyarusso, sorry, im really new at this
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell dudemanbro about compile
[04:14] <twysted> dudemanbro see if you can sudo apt-get install kaptain
[04:14] <ubuntu> twysted, sorry
[04:14] <disturbed> liquidten2 k. hold on
[04:14] <vbgunz> how do you make qt apps on Gnome look native?
[04:14] <twysted> Kadran> k cool
[04:14] <rob_p> dudemanbro:  There's an easier way...  Just do, "sudo apt-get install kaptain" at the command line.  That will install the one specifically compiled for Ubuntu.
[04:14] <disturbed> nothing there... ???
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> dudemanbro: twysted's right.  It's available.  You can throw the .tar.gz away.
[04:14] <needlez> this is going to seem like a really dumb question, but how do i switch my clock from military to 12 hour?
[04:14] <dudemanbro> ok
[04:14] <Kadran> ubuntu: the ??a, ??b, ??c, d?? are the name of devices, and 1,2,3,4,5,7,are the partitions
[04:14] <liquidten2> ok...
[04:14] <dudemanbro> tonyyarusso, normally, where do these programs go?
[04:15] <dudemanbro> tonyyarusso, like which folders on my computer?
[04:15] <Munchkinguy> Why doesn't abiword come with a grammar checker in Ubuntu?
[04:15] <Kadran> twysted: what do you mean?
[04:15] <PORDO> can someone tell me whether you have this library on your computer?  libdbus-glib-1.so.2
[04:15] <PORDO> i have  libdbus-glib-1.so.1
[04:15] <PORDO> i need  libdbus-glib-1.so.2
[04:15] <twysted> Kadran> you said windows is there now correct?
[04:15] <liquidten2> disturbed: ok then, what IS in /home/disturbed/hda1/var/log ?  do an ls /home/disturbed/hda1/var/log
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> dudemanbro: Not just one place.  /usr/bin, /usr/lib, and /etc all have important pieces.
[04:15] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls /dev/hd*
[04:15] <ubuntu> /dev/hdc  /dev/hdd  /dev/hdd1  /dev/hdd2  /dev/hdd5  /dev/hdd6  /dev/hdd7
[04:15] <ubuntu> Kadran,
[04:15] <Kadran> twysted: no it is not in menu.lst :(
[04:16] <crimsun> PORDO: are you using breezy?
[04:16] <twysted> Kadran> ah ok
[04:16] <PORDO> crimsun yeah.
[04:16] <crimsun> PORDO: it's in dapper, which means you need to dist-upgrade to dapper
[04:16] <linux_galore> PORDO: dbus is version specific
[04:16] <liquidten2> disturbed: there should be SOME Xorg related file in there, post whatever seems likely.  (It could also be Xorg.0.log or something like that)
[04:16] <PORDO> crimsun dapper is out?
[04:16] <dudemanbro> tonyyarusso, thanks
[04:16] <ubuntu> Kadran, that is ??d
[04:16] <crimsun> PORDO: ~3 weeks
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> PORDO: Beta.
[04:16] <twysted> Kadran> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto
[04:16] <PORDO> argh.
[04:16] <disturbed> liquidten2 there is xorg.0.log, and xorg.0.log.old
[04:16] <Kadran> ubuntu: i don't know but may be your harddisk is secondary master
[04:16] <Madpilot> PORDO, released June 1st - beta release is out now
[04:17] <Jasey> hiya, heres my problem. im trying to install dapper on a pc which has a nvidia geforce xm4000 graphics card. nothing displays O_o this is using the desktop live cd. any ideas??
[04:17] <needlez> anyone know how to change the clock from military to 12 hour?
[04:17] <PORDO> i think i accidentalyl installed .debs for tapioca for dapper.  how could i remove the versions i installed?
[04:17] <Kadran> twysted: thanks i will check it out
[04:17] <liquidten2> disturbed: post the /home/disturbed/hda1/var/log/xorg.0.log
[04:17] <tonyyarusso> needlez: Right-click, preferences.
[04:17] <linux_galore> Jasey: what version of the driver did you download
[04:17] <disturbed> liquidten2 ok, one sec.
[04:17] <Jasey> well none.
[04:17] <Madpilot> needlez, right-click on the clock, select Preferences
[04:17] <Madpilot> needlez, switch it from "24hr" to "12hr"
[04:18] <Jasey> oh wait a tick i have the linux drivers from the site
[04:18] <___gn0m3___><PHONE_NUMBER>66666666666666666666666665843186713
[04:18] <crimsun> PORDO: use synaptic/aptitude/apt-get to remove them
[04:18] <linux_galore> Jasey: aaah this is the live cd
[04:18] <___gn0m3___> PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
[04:18] <Jasey> yes
[04:18] <Kadran> ubuntu: i c that you have windows c: and d:  linux root, swap and home and got a cdrom
[04:18] <needlez> thank you :) i wasnt right clicking...i was left clicking and going into preferences. lol
[04:18] <needlez> the simplest things are the things you dont think of
[04:18] <slackern> tonyyarusso, darn they still using that kind of torture equipment? :)
[04:19] <disturbed> liquidten2 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13956 - there you are.
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> needlez: Hehe, yeah.
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> slackern: Yep.  It's cheap.
[04:19] <ubuntu> Kadran, correct
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> slackern: And my government's all over torture anyway, so maybe it will make a comeback.
[04:19] <liquidten2>  (WW)Warning,couldn'topenmodulenvidia
[04:19] <liquidten2> that's never good
[04:19] <slackern> tonyyarusso, aye thats true, wish i had a phoneline to use when the regular isp goes down or something.
[04:20] <Munchkinguy> tonyyarusso: While you're waiting for that upgrade, perhaps you could tell me how to get the Grammar Checker plugin for Abiword.
[04:20] <apokryphos> good ol' Ubugtu
[04:20] <disturbed> liquidten2 yea' nothing I do is ever good.. my latest error was.. "Cannot complete task, too far in the future"... *rolls eyes*
[04:20] <ubuntu> ok
[04:20] <linux_galore> disturbed: sound like you didnt install the driver
[04:20] <ubuntu> on live cd 5.04 , how can resize ntfs partition?
[04:20] <ubuntu> is it possible?
[04:20] <disturbed> linux_galore knowing me, Probably not... >.<... did all that the forum dude man sir person said..
[04:20] <crimsun> ubuntu: ntfsresize
[04:20] <needlez> oh, this may seem like a tricky question. and i dont even know if it is possible, but i have a microsoft multimedia keyboard (i can control winamp and stuff like volume, pause, play, stop, forward, and backwards in my playlist from my keyboard) does anyone know if i can use these features with linux?
[04:20] <PORDO> crimsun do you feel that dapper is stable enough to be usable right now?  i know that's a vague question...
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> Munchkinguy: Wish I could - OOo guy myself.  I'll look around though.
[04:21] <crimsun> PORDO: yes
[04:21] <liquidten2> disturbed:  Ok, i can tell you how to REVERT what you previously did at least.  just edit your /home/disturbed/hda1/etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace "nvidia" with "nv" and delete "load "glx""
[04:21] <crimsun> PORDO: for /many/ (not all) people
[04:21] <liquidten2> so then you can at least boot into your other hard drive
[04:21] <ubuntu> crimsun, sudo ntfsresize?
[04:21] <paradizelost> needlez: IIRC, xev will give you the code that the keys do
[04:21] <disturbed> liquidten2 Ok, and that should fix the other boot though?
[04:21] <Madpilot> needlez, you should be able to, yes
[04:21] <tonyyarusso> PORDO: Yes, if you speak English or most Western languages.   :D
[04:22] <paradizelost> then press the key, it will tell you the code for the button press and the button release
[04:22] <paradizelost> OPEN AN XTERM
[04:22] <paradizelost> a console of some sort
[04:22] <delmar> ohzie, ah yes. good idea
[04:22] <ubuntu> crimsun, i am newbie
[04:22] <PORDO> oh that's a bummer.  i'm chinese and speaking terminated a galactic translator.
[04:22] <crimsun> ubuntu: then you might try gparted
[04:22] <paradizelost> /ignore ubuntu
[04:22] <ubuntu> crimsun, don't want my ntfs corrupt
[04:23] <odyssey> do you guys know what is a good dvd cpoy software
[04:23] <linux_galore> does the easyubuntu script install the nvidia drivers or does only automatix do that
[04:23] <needlez> paradizelost, how do i run xev (total newbie here)
[04:23] <ohzie> !E17
[04:23] <paradizelost> needlez: open a console
[04:23] <Munchkinguy> tonyyarusso: the "abiword-plugins" package doesn't seem to come with it
[04:23] <needlez> did that
[04:23] <disturbed> liquidten2 Ok.. I edited it, there wasn't any "load" in there, but I dleeted glx, and put in "nv"...
[04:23] <paradizelost> needlez: and type "xev"  press enter
[04:23] <disturbed> liquidten2.. so save it... and reboot to my other drive now?
[04:23] <ubuntu> paradizelost: :(
[04:23] <kbrooks> linux_galore: easyubuntu too
[04:23] <twysted> ohzie, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingE17Howto
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> Munchkinguy: All right (Googling...)
[04:24] <needlez> paradizelost, i did that, and a little box popped up
[04:24] <disturbed> liquidten2 or should I pastebin it for you to double check *blush*
[04:24] <dudemanbro> if i download a program, in a tar.gz format, where is a good place to put it on my computer so i can compile it?
[04:24] <liquidten2> disturbed: do that
[04:24] <linux_galore> disturbed: try using the easyubuntu script
[04:24] <PORDO> so to upgrade, i just change "breezy" to "dapper" ?
[04:24] <paradizelost> needlez: now press the key you want to know what it does
[04:24] <kingspawn> dudemanbro: somewhere temporary in your homedir
[04:24] <paradizelost> and it will give you the keycode
[04:24] <disturbed> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13958
[04:24] <twysted> dudemanbro> i avoid downloading tar.gz since apt has alot of the programs already for ubuntu, but i usually but them in my home directory and compile from there
[04:24] <slicslak> what package do i need to compile things?
[04:25] <liquidten2> linux_galore:  Also, isn't there somethign called automaticks in Ubuntu that can automatically install Nvidia driverss?
[04:25] <dudemanbro> kingspawn, then where should i extract the files?
[04:25] <twysted> PORDO> and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:25] <dudemanbro> twysted, i checked using apt-cache search pplin
[04:25] <kbrooks> liquidten2: its not "in ubuntu"
[04:25] <tonyyarusso> slicslak: build-essential
[04:25] <PORDO> twysted right
[04:25] <PORDO> thx
[04:25] <dudemanbro> twysted, the program i want asnt there
[04:25] <needlez> paradizelost, well i have a "play/pause" key on my keyboard, and i am hitting it, but nothing is happening
[04:25] <kingspawn> dudemanbro: like I said, somewhere in your homedirectory
[04:25] <liquidten2> kbrooks: excuse me, "for" ubuntu
[04:25] <kbrooks> liquidten2: it's not "bundled" in ubuntu
[04:25] <slicslak> liquidten2, linux_galore use easy ubuntu rather than automatix
[04:25] <slicslak> tonyyarusso, thanks
[04:25] <kbrooks> liquidten2: it exists. but its unsafe
[04:25] <PORDO> WELL, UPdate first
[04:25] <kbrooks> bb;
[04:25] <kbrooks> bbl
[04:26] <dudemanbro> kingspawn, but doesnt that mean that eventually ill have a whole bunch of crap in there from different programs?
[04:26] <PORDO> i can't wait to try out tapioca!
[04:26] <crimsun> kbrooks: have you generated an easyubuntu deb yet?
[04:26] <kingspawn> dudemanbro: well, after compiling and installing you can delete the source code if thats your fancy
[04:26] <dudemanbro> kingspawn, is there like a C:/Program Files folder equivalent?
[04:26] <dudemanbro> kingspawn,
[04:26] <dudemanbro> oh
[04:26] <dudemanbro> ok
[04:26] <kbrooks> crimsun: not yet, tomorrow
[04:26] <disturbed> liquidten2 does it look right before I save it?
[04:26] <linux_galore> disturbed: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[04:26] <kingspawn> dudemanbro: just make /home/dudemanbro/programfiles  :)
[04:26] <disturbed> linux_galore what is that for?
[04:26] <dudemanbro> kingspawn, im really new to this, so i wasnt sure
[04:26] <PORDO> who's gonna buy the google/nokia thing?
[04:27] <Badm4n> urgent : how to cancel all email from post fix pls ( sorry OOT ) but urgent
[04:27] <liquidten2> disturbed: yes it looks fine.  You might also want to remove "Section DRI" too
[04:27] <dudemanbro> kingspawn, so then dont i have to copy the executable somewhere to use it from any location in the terminal?
[04:27] <linux_galore> disturbed: its a program that installs things like java/nvidia drivers/flash/codecs  for you
[04:27] <liquidten2> disturbed:  Remove everything from "Section DRI" to "endsection"  those 3 lines
[04:27] <liquidten2> then save and reboot
[04:27] <disturbed> liquidten2 Ok, did.
[04:27] <disturbed> linux_galore Ok, which one should I install?
[04:27] <disturbed> linux_galore Beta?..
[04:28] <disturbed> liquidten2 Thanks for your help, I hope it works!
[04:28] <disturbed> liquidten2 if it does not, you can guess I'll be back ;)
[04:28] <liquidten2> disturbed: ok, goodluck
[04:28] <linux_galore> disturbed: yes beta
[04:28] <disturbed> liquidten2 Thanks.. Brb!
[04:28] <disturbed> linux_galore Ok, I'll get it, thanks for your help as well, Brb!.
[04:28] <kingspawn> dudemanbro: the executable(s) are usually placed where they belong by doing "make install" after you have done "make2
[04:28] <kingspawn> s/"make2/"make"
[04:29] <konrad``> what is the package containing ruby's 'gem' called on ubuntu?
[04:29] <tonyyarusso> Why would my modem not be operating at peak capacity while trying to do an apt-get upgrade?  The system monitor is showing it at only about 1/4 speed.
[04:30] <julian> Hello, I had a quick question and was wondering if anyone had some ideas. I was installing ubuntucenter, and had all the dependencies installed, but apt claimed I needed libgd2-dev libgd2-noxpm libgd2-noxpm-dev
[04:30] <julian> , which conflicted with ubuntucenter and php-5, so I managed to ignore those and force the install of ubuntucenter, but now I can't do anything with apt at all. It says I need libgd2-dev libgd2-noxpm libgd2-noxpm-dev
[04:30] <julian>  Does anyone know how I can make apt ignore those?
[04:30] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: what type of connection and modem model
[04:30] <ubuntu> hi
[04:31] <twysted> tonyyarusso> it can be the mirror your downloading from is slow or your not being shown a correct connection speed (ie if your on a LAN your internet connection is not 100MBPS)
[04:31] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore: 56k dialup, IBM integrated, Conexant chipset.  Driver from Linuxant, paid for full speed.  Can operate fully, just isn't atm.
[04:31] <ubuntu> Kadran, hi
[04:31] <linux_galore> julian: forcing stuff will break the install
[04:31] <julian> Oops
[04:31] <julian> lol
[04:32] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: ok easy, the free connexant driver is crippled intentionally by the maker
[04:32] <ubuntu> what command to format /dev/hdd5 with fs = vfat32?
[04:32] <Illnor> I've got a dualboot of XP and Ubuntu.. cannot get xorg.conf setup right with the video. In XP the screen is normal, but when I boot into Ubuntu, it doesn't change the monitor's FV as I specify it in the file, and thus the whole screen is moved over a little when i boot into ubuntu
[04:33] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore: I know, which is why I bought the full version.
[04:33] <Illnor> Like I set the FV to 60.2 in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, yet when I check on my monitor it says the frequency is 60.5. It just doesn't listen to me :)
[04:34] <Kadran> hi ubuntu
[04:34] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: get a "real" hardware modem for less than the cost for a driver for a crippled connextent soft modem
[04:34] <ubuntu> Kadran,  what command to format /dev/hdd5 with fs = vfat32?
[04:35] <terribleCabbage> So, err, is Dapper stable enough to use as a primary desktop yet, now that they're in the final stages of testing in preparation for the June release, or should I stick with installing a Breezy desktop and upgrading in a month (I have no idea how easy that is).
[04:35] <tonyyarusso> linux_galore: I don't think you're understanding...
[04:35] <Kadran> ubuntu: i think this will help you http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/unix_for_dos_users.html
[04:35] <ubuntu> my modem detected by ubuntu "0000:02:02.0 Modem: ALi Corporation SmartLink SmartPCI561 56K Modem"
[04:35] <Madpilot> terribleCabbage, dapper seems fairly stable, but upgrading is usually very easy
[04:35] <terribleCabbage> Right-o.
[04:35] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: I do understand, conexant modems even in Linux are slow, they are slow in windows too, because there not real modems
[04:35] <tonyyarusso> terribleCabbage: Depends how critical of a computer you want to put it on.  I have it on my personal machine.  (But wouldn't run an e-commerce site on it)
[04:36] <terribleCabbage> Ah, ok.  :P
[04:36] <terribleCabbage> Heck, I want to try XGL anyway. ;)
[04:36] <linux_galore> liquidten2: he has the comercial driver, trust me its slow even with that
[04:37] <paradizelost> terribleCabbage: Xgl can be done on breezy.
[04:37] <paradizelost> i've done it
[04:37] <paradizelost> just rented AeonFlux
[04:37] <paradizelost> :D
[04:37] <terribleCabbage> All the guides appear to be for Dapper, mind. Hmm.
[04:37] <bradley_> hello all. i'm fairly new to linux and am trying to set up java. i've followed all the instructions in the wiki (i'm a cut and paste fella), but when i tried to install the package i recieved: errors were encountered while processing. does anyone have any info?
[04:37] <ubuntu> Kadran, mke2fs
[04:38] <terribleCabbage> bradley_: Which step did you end up at?
[04:38] <Kadran> ubuntu: however i prefer to do formating for fat32 by windows
[04:38] <Kadran> ubuntu : no this will make ext2 drive
[04:39] <bradley_> it said that the debian package had been created and i should install-- i assume this was very near the end, if not the last step
[04:39] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 you there?
[04:39] <Kadran> ubuntu: i don't know but i have once tried to do format a vfat32 from linux and windows wanted to format it again
[04:39] <xpc> re
[04:39] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: yeah
[04:39] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 Thanks for your help :).. it's me Disturbed
[04:39] <linux_galore> tonyyarusso: also try connecting at 36800 not 56000  its not so prone to speed stepping down
[04:40] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: i take it you're in the other hard drive?
[04:40] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 Yep :D
[04:40] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 .. now that that is fixed.. I have other issue's.. like getting my printer hooked up... and getting the right driver for my video card so the game WolfET does work...
[04:40] <ubuntu> Kadran, thanks
[04:41] <Kadran> ubuntu: you are welcome
[04:41] <ubuntu> does ubuntu 5.04 ship with a cd burner?
[04:41] <linux_galore> ubuntu yes the file manager (nautilus) can burn cd's
[04:41] <paradizelost> ubuntu: is there a reason you are using 5.04 rather than 5.10 or 6.06?
[04:42] <bradley_> the wiki would lead me to believe that the problem occured somewhere between the last and second last: 'sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb' was the line where i encountered the problems
[04:42] <pyrotic2> Any printer smart people here?
[04:42] <nickrud> bradley_, could you put the error on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:42] <sanmarcos> Hello, I am trobuled, when I try to boot into my system with a stock image kernel, I get stuck at Uncompressing Linux... Ok booting the kernel (even in single user) mode, this this not happen in older kernels, just now that it switched to initramfs-tools (i think), any ideas?
[04:42] <linux_galore> ubuntu if you have Kubuntu or the Kubuntu live cd you can use a cd/dvd burner called k3b   dead easy to use and looks a bit like nero
[04:42] <sanmarcos> try gnome bajer
[04:43] <bradley_> yah what is that link?
[04:43] <ubuntu> paradizelost, i have only 5.04 here.. (wish i have a fast internet)
[04:43] <liquidten2> pyrotic2:  what's your printer, how does it connect to your printer, etc?
[04:43] <paradizelost> k
[04:43] <gaby> buenas
[04:43] <liquidten2> pyrotic: errr... what type of connection is it...
[04:43] <gaby> soy usuario nuevo
[04:43] <Madpilot> !es
[04:43] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:44] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 Brother MFC-420CN... and USB...
[04:44] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 and it needs to be usable by a network computer, that is on XP Home.
[04:44] <gaby> quien me podria salvar
[04:44] <ubuntu> linux_galore thanks
[04:44] <gaby> mmm
[04:44] <liquidten2> pyrotic2:  heh..  You managed to post both a printer AND a company that i've never even heard of >_>
[04:44] <WillyTell> gaby, lee esto: Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda
[04:44] <Madpilot> ubuntu, try just putting a blank CD in the drive - you should get a "what do you want to do with this blank CD" window (I think 5.04 does this, I know 5.10 does)
[04:44] <linux_galore> ubuntu you can get apt-get to install k3b for you
[04:45] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 ...lol...well damn... lol...
[04:45] <gaby> ok .. gracias
[04:45] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 I tried to network hook it up with the cups installer, but it didn't work too well as there isn't a driver listed for my printer.. :S
[04:45] <paradizelost> pyrotic2: what printer?
[04:45] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: it looks like it is linux compatible though, so you arE OK in that
[04:46] <pyrotic2> paradizelost Brother MFC-420CN
[04:46] <liquidten2> http://gentoo-wiki.com/Brother_MFC_420CN_Printer
[04:46] <Madpilot> pyrotic2, have you looked on linuxprinting.org for info on your printer?
[04:46] <liquidten2> that looks generic enough to also work in ubuntu
[04:46] <pyrotic2> madpilot no I have not... I figured sombody would have easy commands for it off hand, but I'm realizeing it's not that simple.
[04:46] <GTroy> how do I uninstall secondlife?
[04:46] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 thanks for the link, looks great!
[04:47] <GTroy> so I can reinstall it?
[04:47] <liquidten2> Does ubuntu come with a way to isntall rpm though?
[04:47] <Madpilot> pyrotic2, linuxprinting.org has a massive database of info
[04:47] <GTroy> liquidten2, there's alien
[04:47] <pyrotic2> madpilot well, if the link liquid sent me, does not work out for me, I will check there, thanks :)
[04:47] <Madpilot> liquidten2, you could use "alien" to convert to .deb - but that's a last resort, and not recommended...
[04:47] <GTroy> (I think)
[04:47] <liquidten2> it's just for somebody to install printer drivers though, so it should be ok
[04:48] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 amazingly enough, I already have the cupswrapper.. :)
[04:48] <liquidten2> do you have both MFC210Clpr-1.0.0-1.i386.rpm and cupswrapperMFC210C-1.0.0-1.i386.rpm
[04:48] <GTroy> anyone know how to uninstall an app called second life?
[04:49] <pyrotic2> no, I only have the cupswrapper210c
[04:49] <GTroy> !secondlife
[04:49] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese.  Care to clarify that a little? :\
[04:51] <thrice`> google will help
[04:51] <terribleCabbage> A Window-Manager, or an environment like Gnome?
[04:51] <nickrud> whiter, a tool needed to test the beta xgl desktops
[04:51] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 ok, I have the cupswrappermfc420 one, but I cannot find the first part of your previous question up there..
[04:51] <Munchkinguy> It's an OpenGL, XGL accelerated desktop
[04:52] <terribleCabbage> So it's something like xorg, then?
[04:52] <linux_galore> Munchkinguy: xgl doesnt define the desktop
[04:52] <Munchkinguy> I know
[04:52] <linux_galore> xgl is a server
[04:52] <nickrud> but implementation is everything :)
[04:52] <terribleCabbage> As much as I'd like it to, I can't get the wooden desk here to use OpenGL or XGL. Care to define "desktop"?
[04:53] <terribleCabbage> (In regards to compiz.)
[04:53] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: http://www.brother.com/cgi-bin/agreement/agreement.cgi?dlfile=http://solutions.brother.com/Library/sol/printer/linux/rpmfiles/cups_wrapper/cupswrappermfc3340cn_1.0.0-1_i386.deb&lang=English_gpl
[04:53] <Munchkinguy> But it does control the window manager and window decoratios.
[04:53] <liquidten2> download and install that
[04:53] <Munchkinguy> *decorations
[04:53] <slackern> terribleCabbage, http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz
[04:53] <linux_galore> terribleCabbage: I saw a really good suse howto on setting up xgl
[04:53] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 I found the 420cn version of it..
[04:54] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 I found the 420cn of both the cupswrapper and the other one.. (w/e the othe rone does)..
[04:54] <slackern> !xgl
[04:54] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[04:54] <terribleCabbage> Ah, a Window Manager. Got it.
[04:54] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: ok, then install those :)
[04:54] <voraistos> xgl was develloped by the company who owns suse
[04:54] <slackern> terribleCabbage, there you can see xgl+compiz in action
[04:54] <terribleCabbage> So I can't use Fluxbox? :(
[04:54] <Munchkinguy> linux_galore: Basically, it lets you do all the cool stuff that OSX's Aqua lets you do, but in GNOME or KDE
[04:54] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 lol, attempting now.
[04:54] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: the download button confused me, so i clicked the one for 3340 instead of 420 <_<
[04:54] <capgadget> I think only some things in gnome evenuse xgl right now
[04:54] <holycow> also you can get aiglx + compiz running on dapper ... albeit its all way too early even for alpha release
[04:54] <Android_D> how do I disable SELinux in ubuntu?
[04:54] <holycow> Android_D, what the heck do you mean?
[04:55] <whiter> oh
[04:55] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 lol, no worries, I got a pastebin for you though :)
[04:55] <holycow> there is no selinux components installed on ubuntu
[04:55] <whiter> my computer sucks too much for xgl
[04:55] <holycow> "are no"
[04:55] <ubuntu> hi, has ubuntu one downloader ?
[04:55] <Android_D> I want SELinux so be disabled
[04:55] <slackern> terribleCabbage, it's being developed for gnome for a start i belive but the skies the limit i guess :)
[04:55] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: ok >_>
[04:55] <bradley_> (i posted this message a while ago but was gone for a while while i tried (and failed! at) a couple of things so i'm reposting) hello all. i'm fairly new to linux and am trying to set up java. i've followed all the instructions in the wiki (i'm a cut and paste fella), but when i tried to install the package i recieved: errors were encountered while processing. does anyone have any info? here is the last lines i recieved: dpkg: error
[04:55] <ubuntu> same as prozilla
[04:55] <bradley_> processing sun-j2rel.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb (--install):
[04:55] <bradley_>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[04:55] <bradley_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:55] <bradley_>  sun-j2rel.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[04:55] <holycow> Android_D, how can you disable something thats not installed?
[04:55] <slackern> !paste
[04:55] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[04:55] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13964
[04:55] <slicslak> seriously.  if someone ever ported portage to ubuntu, i would pay for it.
[04:55] <Android_D> I have the package installed
[04:56] <holycow> then uninstall it
[04:56] <liquidten2> slicsladk:  why not use gentoo <_<?
[04:56] <Android_D> it installs packages I don't want installed
[04:56] <Android_D> sorry, uninstalls
[04:56] <capgadget> If you managed to get selinux installe dyou can disable it on boot in grub by adding selinux=0 on the kernel line
[04:56] <whiter> you have to use compiz as your window manager for xgl to work?
[04:56] <holycow> Android_D, uninstall it and the packages
[04:56] <holycow> then install the separate packages alone
[04:56] <nickrud> bradley_, you shouldn't paste here; and the error implies you're not running dpkg -i in the same directory where the sun deb is.
[04:56] <Munchkinguy> terribleCabbage: It lets you do all the cool Aqua-like things like: rotating desktop cube, translucent windows, wobbly windows, windows that scale when minimizing, etc
[04:56] <ubuntu> sudo apt-get install prozilla ...E: Couldn't find package prozilla
[04:56] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: ok, then do a "sudo mkdir -p /var/spool/lpd"
[04:56] <dudemanbro> how do i give an executable fle permission to write to the printer port?
[04:57] <linux_galore> heres the suse 10.1 howto on Xgl setup  ignore the Yast stuff, your just intrested in the config file stuff http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/17174.html
[04:57] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: then retry
[04:57] <capgadget> Try d4x instead of prozilla if you can find it.  Works really nice.
[04:57] <slicslak> liquidten2, i do on my servers, but i'm using a laptop.  and i travel in countries where the connection sucks.  for those apps that are not in or updated in apt's repositories, portage would be a killer backup.
[04:57] <WillyTell> twysted, I use Ubuntu at home. But where I work, people use windows... I'm trying to show them that linux is better, and the application already exist now can run here too. thanks again.
[04:57] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 k. one sec.
[04:57] <dudemanbro> i read chmod 4754, but i dont think that works
[04:57] <ubuntu> capgadget, i am on live
[04:57] <terribleCabbage> Munchkinguy: Thanks.
[04:58] <ubuntu> capgadget, how can i change source repo?
[04:58] <capgadget> K running dapper in vmware here at the moment.
[04:58] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 Ok, I think it's installed now... lets see if my cups recognizes it or finds it.. :|... how do I find the driver for it when installing the printer anyway?
[04:58] <dudemanbro> hello?
[04:58] <bradley_> nickrud: i'm gonna check for the directory now but to ensure that too much time doesn't pass-- how do i find the right directory? (and sorry about pasting)
[04:58] <liquidten2> pyrotic2:  just keep following the directions in that first link
[04:58] <capgadget> I normally run fc5 64 bit but the ati fglrx drivers are a complete disaster there.
[04:58] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: do a /etc/init.d/cupsd restart
[04:59] <nickrud> bradley_, sudo updatedb ; locate /sun-j2re1.5 | grep deb, and cd to that dir
[04:59] <flavio> oi
[04:59] <whiter> anyone know if compiz/xgl will run on my 733mhz computer?
[04:59] <liquidten2> pyrotic2: then add the printer either through localhost:631 in firefox, or in whatever tool ubuntu provides to add printers.
[04:59] <dudemanbro> does anyone know how to give an executable file permission to write to the printer port?
[05:00] <flavio> ola
[05:00] <linux_galore> kde has a really nice cups front end called kups, you can even edit the printer setup
[05:00] <capgadget> Sneak the xpde gui on a desktop.  It's a XP like demo.  Can fool the naive which is probably 90% of the winders users.  They won't kow the difference.
[05:00] <Munchkinguy> whiter: you can download a compiz/xgl LiveCD called Kororra
[05:00] <bradley_> nickrud: thanks i'll try that now.
[05:00] <whiter> oh good idea
[05:00] <linux_galore> dudemanbro: you dont thats defined by the user
[05:00] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 ok.. when I go to "restart cups" as it asks to do after installing the driver and the cupswrapper... it says no such file or directory..
[05:00] <Munchkinguy> http://kororaa.org/
[05:00] <holycow> capgadget, thats actually a very bad idea
[05:01] <ericvw> does anyone have a dell 8600 with i8kmon running?
[05:01] <whiter> good thinking munchkinguy
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> capgadget: I checked that out once, and it looked good, but didn't actually work.
[05:01] <sanmarcos> anybody know what a -server kenrle does?
[05:01] <capgadget> It actually did work and you could configure it.  I just ran it long enough to make some screen cap movies.
[05:01] <dudemanbro> linux_galore, well when i try to run the executable under sudo, it says permission denied
[05:01] <Munchkinguy> whiter: I correct myself; two R's, two A's
[05:01] <holycow> it was the last .1 percent that effed up the users badly
[05:01] <capgadget> Unfortunately they used that pascal clone compiler.
[05:02] <dudemanbro> linux_galore, /dev/port: permission denied
[05:02] <linux_galore> dudemanbro: try  sudo  chmod a+x filename
[05:02] <PORDO> move to dapper make me take long time.
[05:02] <linux_galore> dudemanbro: then ./filename
[05:02] <pyrotic2> liquidten2 I'll figure it out another time, thanks for your help, have a great night, buh-bye
[05:02] <liquidten2> pyrotic2:  ok
[05:02] <Munchkinguy> whiter: Do you have a Radeon Card? If you do, there might be some problems.
[05:02] <ubuntu> wget
[05:03] <briguyd> how do i use samba to share files from a local XP computer?
[05:03] <ubuntu> wget -r for resume then?
[05:03] <holycow> briguyd, well you share it on xp, then you go to places / network servers and click on the share
[05:04] <linux_galore> briguyd: setup samba with swat
[05:04] <holycow> theres nothing really to configure, network browsing like on windows
[05:04] <briguyd> swat?
[05:04] <briguyd> i've installed samba already
[05:04] <linux_galore> briguyd: its the official GUI admin app for samba
[05:04] <briguyd> and made a shared folder on the XP computer
[05:04] <xiamcitizen> what irc client you guys use?
[05:04] <briguyd> xiamcitizen, XChat
[05:04] <holycow> briguyd, your doing everything the hard way, you should be able to just browse your network
[05:05] <xiamcitizen> thanks, will dl
[05:05] <holycow> forget the swat stuff
[05:05] <xiamcitizen> briguyd, is it in the repos?
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> xiamcitizen: irssi
[05:05] <briguyd> linux_galore, is swat in the reposotories?
[05:05] <briguyd> xiamcitizen, it came preinstalled, so yes
[05:05] <linux_galore> briguyd: should be
[05:05] <Madpilot> xiamcitizen, XChat should be installed by default in 5.10
[05:05] <holycow> briguyd, you don't need to install swat or samba either, you just need the samba client to browse folders on the network of windows machines
[05:05] <xiamcitizen> im on 6.06
[05:05] <holycow> briguyd, that comes preinstalled with ubuntu
[05:05] <linux_galore> holycow: you mean browse the windows shares without samba, lots of luck
[05:05] <briguyd> holycow, how do i do that?
[05:06] <xiamcitizen> tonyyarruso i check that out to
[05:06] <xiamcitizen> o
[05:06] <holycow> linux_galore, smbclient, what does smbd haveto do with browsing samba shares?
[05:06] <holycow> right, nothing
[05:06] <holycow> briguyd, places / network servers
[05:06] <linux_galore> holycow: because windows shares protocols change all the time, half the time its broken
[05:07] <holycow> linux_galore, you only need smbd if YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH WINDOWS
[05:07] <ubuntu> sorry
[05:07] <ubuntu> -c
[05:07] <holycow> linux_galore, to VIEW windows shares all you need is samba client
[05:07] <briguyd> holycow, i DO want to share with windows (XP is a version of windows)
[05:07] <linux_galore> holycow: yes and the protocols are broken
[05:07] <holycow> briguyd, thats not what you r original question stated.
[05:07] <linux_galore> holycow: microsoft constantly break it
[05:07] <satya> guys, is gcc installed by default on Ubuntu 5.1?
[05:07] <briguyd> what's smbd?
[05:08] <slackern> linux_galore, it's working here
[05:08] <holycow> !samba
[05:08] <ubotu> well, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[05:08] <holycow> briguyd, follow those guides to share with windows
[05:08] <nickrud> satya, no. you need to do sudo apt-get install build-essential in a terminal
[05:08] <Jago> linux_galore: I am sorry no, the SMB protocol has remained pretty much the same since NT4, which is like 10 years old
[05:08] <holycow> linux_galore, sure, but originally his question was asking how to browse windows shares.  for that he only needs samba client and not samba server
[05:08] <Jago> linux_galore: half the time it's the samba implementation thats lacking features :)
[05:08] <cracko> anyone try enemy territory?
[05:08] <linux_galore> Jago: sheesh, yes but Microsoft doesnt give a stuff about standards
[05:08] <holycow> linux_galore, on the other hand, he changed his mind and now wants to share with windows clients.  for that he needs a samba server
[05:09] <satya> nickrud, thanks. Where can I foind more about this apt-get, like how many other packages are really out there?
[05:09] <holycow> completely different applications
[05:09] <ubuntu> linux_galore: i mounted a reiserfs mount /dev/hda7 /mnt.  I just built it from source. I figure it was a bad .deb?
[05:13] <holycow> ericvw, a dell what? even within the same dell model line one will get completely different parts made by completely different manufacturers
[05:13] <ubuntu> linux_galore, and sudo wget file?
[05:13] <poningru> briguyd: are you using kubuntu or ubuntu?
[05:13] <briguyd> xubuntu
[05:13] <poningru> ah
[05:13] <holycow> briguyd, to left, next to applications ... are  you using  kubuntu?
[05:13] <ericvw> does anyone have a dell 8600 (8000 series) with i8kmon running?
[05:13] <ubuntu> and sudo vi on it?
[05:13] <briguyd> with thunar as the file browser
[05:13] <holycow> oh i can't help you with that
[05:14] <poningru> hmm
[05:14] <holycow> briguyd, go to #xubuntu or something
[05:14] <holycow> thats not a questio nfor this channel
[05:14] <briguyd> yeah
[05:14] <poningru> well the smb client is running
[05:14] <holycow> !xubuntu
[05:14] <ubotu> from memory, xubuntu is Ubuntu using Xfce instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://www.xubuntu.org
[05:14] <linux_galore> ubuntu you only use sudo to edit or run system based stuff  wget can be run as a user
[05:14] <poningru> briguyd: not sure how you can use the smb client with that file browser
[05:14] <Jago> is Windows SMB is such crap I can only wonder why it is more popular then NFS could ever hope to be :)
[05:14] <briguyd> ok, thanks everyone
[05:15] <high-freq> can someone help me with a pcmcia issue....i don't see it in lspci..and i have hostap and hostap-source and also pcmcia-utils and all that...but on dmesg says pcmcia cardbus card is using slot0.0 or whatever...and then it says prism2_config() failed....can someone plz help me with this issue
[05:15] <high-freq> its a 802.11/b xi-325 pcmcia card....kinda old
[05:16] <linux_galore> high-freq: are you sure you have the correct chipset in that card, beware makers do swap the chipsets and keep the same model numbers
[05:16] <high-freq> Chipset  	PRISM2.5 chipset on-board  <<,---- ya i'm looking at the specs of it on the website right now
[05:17] <high-freq> http://www.hyperlinktech.com/web/802.11b_pc_card_h-pc325.php
[05:17] <ubuntu> linux_galore, thanks
[05:17] <high-freq> thats the link to the website for the specs of that card
[05:18] <linux_galore> ubuntu basically if you want to change anything that not in /home/username   you need to run sudo
[05:18] <The_Hague> I have a hp 1100, does anyone know just off the top of yee head whether this printer works or not?
[05:18] <dudemanbro> linux_galore, nope, it still didnt work
[05:18] <Munchkinguy> tonyyarusso: I'm leaving, so if you're still looking for an answer for my question, you can give up
[05:18] <Munchkinguy> bye
[05:18] <high-freq> The_Hague: yup
[05:18] <The_Hague> wee
[05:18] <linux_galore> ??
[05:18] <high-freq> The_Hague: i have one...the driver is hp1100 or somethin like that...hehe
[05:18] <The_Hague> I've tried foolin with it before but had no luck.
[05:19] <ubuntu_> linux_galore, ok
[05:19] <ubuntu_> linux_galore, can you help me to install prozilla?
[05:19] <linux_galore> ubuntu when you run wget it just download a file to /home/username/wherever  so you dont need sudo
[05:20] <cfedde> the trial Drake does not understand the mouse on my laptop.
[05:20] <xiamcitizen> yeah, so i have the SiS760GX. with 64MB VRAM i get about 5 fps. anybody have any workarounds?
[05:20] <high-freq> wget d/l's to the dir u are already in
[05:20] <linux_galore> ubuntu never installed it
[05:20] <linux_galore> ubuntu but I can try
[05:20] <ubuntu_> linux_galore, apt-get install prozilla but don't work here
[05:20] <chicken_Fire> Hi!, who has tried Solipsis already? Is it worth?
[05:20] <holycow> well of course, its not in the repositories
[05:20] <high-freq> ubuntu_: try apt-cache search prozilla
[05:20] <linux_galore> ubuntu ?? so it didnt find the package
[05:21] <briguyd> is there any way to browse a networked XP machine using the terminal?
[05:21] <Bilford> why do you want to use the terminal
[05:21] <linux_galore> billytwowilly: faster
[05:21] <holycow> briguyd, yes, man smbclient
[05:21] <ubuntu_> cani complie it?
[05:21] <Bilford> oh
[05:21] <Jago> briguyd: yes you can with smbclient
[05:21] <chicken_Fire> http://solipsis.netofpeers.net/wiki2/index.php/Main_Page
[05:21] <linux_galore> billytwowilly: hard to describe long menu entries in a chat room
[05:21] <high-freq> ubuntu_: if u can find the pkg then yes u can install it
[05:22] <ubuntu_> high-freq, not found
[05:22] <briguyd> yeah, that looks pretty confusing, anyone know the basic setup for it?
[05:22] <billytwowilly> linux_galore: huh?
[05:22] <holycow> briguyd, no one can teach you how to use software, thats not what htis channel is for
[05:23] <Bilford> lol
[05:23] <holycow> briguyd, please take the time to google and research your self first
[05:23] <linux_galore> billytwowilly:  click on this->that-< look for small abc tab click on that then right click on -> this->that then look for a small icon down the bottom
[05:23] <briguyd> holycow, i did, i had no idea what was going on
[05:23] <linux_galore> billytwowilly:  or open text file look for the third line and change it to abc -1
[05:24] <holycow> you googled for 3 seconds and expect me to think that you actually tried to learn how to use it?
[05:24] <high-freq> ubuntu_: ya i didn't see it either..i even did a search for zilla....and gave me a bunch but no prozilla....so now just goto the website and d/l and compile yourself
[05:24] <ubuntu_> high-freq, http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=prozilla
[05:24] <ubuntu_> how install it?
[05:24] <billytwowilly> linux_galore: I don't know what you're talking about.. I haven't said anything on here in like 3 days...
[05:24] <briguyd> holycow, no, i googled it for half and hour and didnt learn anytihng
[05:24] <ubuntu_> high-freq, gcc not found on live
[05:24] <holycow> you couldnt have
[05:24] <holycow> i just told you about it
[05:25] <linux_galore> billytwowilly: sorry should be bilford
[05:25] <mtopf> Hi. Can someone post their windows entry from /boot/grub/menu.lst to paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[05:25] <briguyd> holycow, no, i knew about it 3 weeks ago
[05:25] <billytwowilly> linux_galore: lol. k, cool. cheers.
[05:25] <holycow> then why ask?
[05:25] <briguyd> holycow, because i cant figure it out
[05:25] <holycow> its the only way, google more, look for examples of how to use smbclient
[05:25] <slackern> mtopf, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13966
[05:26] <holycow> k. if someone has time to teach you cool.  :) i don't sorry
[05:26] <high-freq> ubuntu_: u using i386 machine...x86
[05:26] <ubuntu_> http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/p/prozilla/prozilla_1.3.6-3woody3_i386.deb
[05:26] <ubuntu_> how install this?
[05:27] <high-freq> ubuntu_: here click this... http://packages.debian.org/oldstable/net/prozilla  and choose the architecture u are using
[05:27] <IcemanV9> !info prozilla
[05:27] <Managu> errm, am I missing something?  that looks like the wrong distribution to me
[05:28] <ubuntu_> IcemanV9, downloader
[05:28] <holycow> Managu, the binary compatability between debian and ubuntu is not as distant as people would have you believe
[05:28] <ubuntu_> high-freq, apt-get prozilla_1.3.6-3woody3_i386.deb?
[05:29] <Managu> holycow: Oh, I know -- it's just a headache when people start mixing and then complaining on #ubuntu
[05:29] <IcemanV9> ubuntu_: yea. just checking if it's there in the repo, but it ain't. :/
[05:29] <Bilford> do Windows games run faster in Cedega than they do on Windows
[05:29] <high-freq> not sure
[05:29] <ubuntu_> IcemanV9, i got it here
[05:29] <holycow> Managu, *nod* i am slowly comming to the conclusions that humans are not terribly intelligent
[05:29] <ubuntu_> prozilla_1.3.6-3woody3_i386.deb
[05:30] <IcemanV9> ubuntu_: yes. i noticed. :)
[05:30] <ubuntu_> don't know how install it
[05:30] <holycow> Managu, teaching people how to use computers is like watching monkeys throw crap around their cages
[05:30] <The_Hague> question
[05:30] <IcemanV9> ubuntu_: sudo dpkg -i <package>
[05:30] <high-freq> i've never installed a deb file
[05:30] <high-freq> i've always compile myself or used apt-get
[05:30] <Bilford> Linux is confusing to learn.  I just switched a few days ago.  Im not switching back though
[05:30] <holycow> Bilford, lets rephrase your statement to something more accurate:
[05:31] <ubuntu_> thanks high-freq
[05:31] <Bilford> Linux is confusing for me to learn.  I just switched a few days ago.  Im not switching back though
[05:31] <The_Hague> I gnome, when you goto the properties of a file and and to the "notes", will this be searched through will say slocate ?
[05:31] <high-freq> ubuntu_: ya no prob
[05:31] <The_Hague> * In
[05:31] <The_Hague> *add
[05:31] <holycow> Bilford: you have used windows all your life and thats all you know.  linux is not confusing, it simply ISN'T windows and all the years of windows training is completely wrong and useless to you.  what is more helpfull is to understand this one single thing and from there all knowledge unfolds
[05:31] <The_Hague> duh!
[05:31] <holycow> :)
[05:32] <sanmarcos> is there any way to tell ubuntu to not load 8139cp but 8139too at boot?
[05:32] <The_Hague> ok will this be searched through with slocate?
[05:32] <Bilford> holycow- true
[05:32] <high-freq> sanmarcos: check your modules in /etc/modules  or in  /etc/modprobe.d
[05:32] <The_Hague> if I notes about the file, will this be checked when searching through my files?
[05:32] <slackern> The_Hague, I belive not, it just handles files
[05:33] <sanmarcos> high-freq: i dont think ubuntu cares about it
[05:33] <Apostle^> whats a good program to download files from newsgroups?
[05:33] <s|k> can I burn an ISO in ubuntu?
[05:33] <sanmarcos> high-freq: as in, udev or whatever checks and loads 8139cp. which fucks things up
[05:33] <s|k> :/
[05:33] <nickrud> Apostle^, pan
[05:33] <Bilford> klibido
[05:33] <high-freq> sanmarcos: well if u want a diff module then u must completely remove the old one..and use the new one
[05:33] <Apostle^> nickrud, hehe thats the one i picked
[05:33] <sanmarcos> high-freq: modules is procesed later
[05:33] <The_Hague> so when adding "notes" about a file this is not put in the files meta data?
[05:33] <Bilford> Newsleecher doesnt work in Wine
[05:33] <holycow> s|k, you should be able to right click and select 'burn image' or something similar yes
[05:33] <nickrud> Apostle^, it's the only gtk/gnome based one I know of :)
[05:33] <The_Hague> allowing it to pick up the info in those "notes"?
[05:34] <s|k> holycow: is it out of the box or do I need to install something?
[05:34] <Apostle^> nickrud, yea only one i saw with gtk
[05:34] <holycow> out of the box
[05:34] <s|k> holycow: I have a dvd burner
[05:34] <high-freq> sanmarcos: just check those 2 files...if 8139cp is being loaded then remove it....and go from there
[05:34] <slackern> The_Hague, slocate only check files on a filesystem and index them it doesn't index the contents of files but i could be misstaken.
[05:34] <s|k> k
[05:34] <Managu> sanmarcos: you probably want to add an entry to one of the blacklist files under /etc/modconf.d
[05:34] <sanmarcos> Managu: thanks
[05:34] <holycow> !cdburning
[05:34] <ubotu> holycow: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:34] <Bilford> Apostle^ did you tyr klibio too
[05:34] <The_Hague> what does the gnome search tool use?
[05:34] <nickrud> The_Hague, it'll be stored somewhere in your home dir, not any file meta data
[05:34] <holycow> !cdcreator
[05:34] <ubotu> holycow: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:34] <holycow> *hmm*
[05:34] <holycow> anyway give it a try
[05:35] <Apostle^> Bilford, not yet
[05:35] <high-freq> holycow: good program to use is k3b or nero for linux or good ol console
[05:35] <IcemanV9> !iso
[05:35] <ubotu> methinks iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[05:35] <holycow> ah there you go
[05:35] <The_Hague> is the gnome search tool just a front end to slocate or find or ?
[05:35] <Managu> sanmarcos: /etc/modprobe.d even
[05:35] <holycow> high-freq, wrong,those are shit programs
[05:35] <high-freq> holycow: i use them regularly
[05:35] <Bilford> Apostle^ I dont think Pan handles nzbb yet
[05:35] <holycow> unnecesarily complicated and modeled on terrible ideas like windows and nero
[05:36] <high-freq> haven't had no probs yet
[05:36] <whyami> k3b is great.
[05:36] <high-freq> tru...but easy
[05:36] <sanmarcos> Managu: yep, added a blacklist
[05:36] <high-freq> i think
[05:36] <Apostle^> Bilford, i know nothing about news groups, i'm trying to get on alt.binaries.sounds.lossless
[05:36] <high-freq> don't lie...u tryin to get on alt.binaries.sex
[05:36] <pyrotic> Ok, Printer geeks??????
[05:36] <holycow> high-freq, a better recommendation for noobs is gnomeburner
[05:36] <Bilford> I like k3b, but it's taking a lot longer to burn this DVD and verify than Nero
[05:36] <slackern> The_Hague, if you click the help button it will tell you how it searches :)
[05:36] <holycow> much better designed app imho
[05:36] <high-freq> hmm..i never used that....
[05:36] <high-freq> i'll check it out one of these days
[05:37] <holycow> Bilford, you can always go back to windows and use that
[05:37] <pyrotic> Annnnnny printer geeks.........?
[05:37] <holycow> !question
[05:37] <ubotu> holycow: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:37] <holycow> !justask
[05:37] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[05:37] <PORDO> i just found this program on my nokia 770 that turns speech to text.  sweet.
[05:37] <slackern> The_Hague, it uses both locate, find and grep
[05:37] <Bilford> holycow, I'll just have to learn how to speed things up
[05:37] <xpc> !seen kaz
[05:37] <ubotu> xpc: i haven't seen 'kaz'
[05:38] <xpc> !seen kat
[05:38] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'kat', xpc
[05:38] <Bilford> One DVD is taking about 1 hour 15 minutes to burn and verify, compared to 21 minutes with Nero
[05:38] <holycow> Bilford, you manage to adjust your attitude very productively :) impressive indeed, its rare for us to see that from windows users
[05:38] <Bilford> So I figure Im doing something wrong
[05:38] <pyrotic> Ok.. Question is, I installed the CORRECT, cupswrapper, and CORRECT, lpd driver... and followed the instructions.. and I printed to default prnter, which was the printer that I have.. but it doesn't print anything... said succesful print... but no print....any ideas???
[05:38] <The_Hague> here's what im trying to do: searchable archive or DB of all my democracynow.org podcasts.
[05:38] <samuli> hey, what was the folder to copy my themes in order to make them available to programs where I log in as a root?
[05:38] <Apostle^> Bilford, i can't figure out how to get on alt.binaries.sounds.lossless
[05:38] <samuli> like synaptic for example.
[05:39] <Bilford> Apostle^- do you have a Usenet provider?
[05:39] <high-freq> Bilford: seems like your burner isn't completely setup in the program
[05:39] <nickrud> Apostle^, you need to download the group list from your usenet provider first
[05:39] <Apostle^> Bilford, i don't think so
[05:39] <The_Hague> with lengthy descriptions so when searching I get more accurate hits.
[05:39] <holycow> Bilford, it is entirely possible that something made by people in their FREE TIME for FREE is not entire up to snuff as something made by commercial interests with paid engineers
[05:39] <Apostle^> nickrud, how do i get one, i just want to use alt.binaries.sounds.lossless
[05:39] <Bilford> Apostle^- I pay for Usenet access, but some ISPs provide it free
[05:39] <The_Hague> I guess I need mysql or ?
[05:39] <Shadow_mil> When I bootup my ubantu, it does not go stright into the the grapical mode, but it says "Brezzy badge" and ask me login under a command shell, whats wrong?
[05:39] <Apostle^> i have comcast ?
[05:39] <The_Hague> with a simple front end?
[05:39] <holycow> Bilford, afterall, this is a community effort, not a product
[05:39] <high-freq> Apostle^: use google for newsgroups
[05:39] <Apostle^> high-freq, how do i do that
[05:40] <Bilford> holycow- No, open source is usually best
[05:40] <nickrud> Apostle^, you need tell pan about your news servers; your isp should have a page telling what their host is
[05:40] <slackern> The_Hague, dapper has something called beagle it's a search engine that indexes files and their contents and more.
[05:40] <IcemanV9> thunderbird do newsgroup
[05:40] <Bilford> high-freq- ok, I'll check into that
[05:40] <high-freq> http://groups.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg&q=
[05:40] <high-freq> google.com and then groups
[05:40] <holycow> Shadow_mil, what is wrong is your using something that isn't released yet.  please ask in #ubuntu+1 so they can help you either debug it or point you to where you can post on bug tracker
[05:40] <pyrotic> I asked...
[05:40] <slackern> The_Hague, it's like googledesktop
[05:40] <pyrotic> Now I wait...
[05:40] <zcat[1] > my impression beagle isn't quite ready for primetime yet...
[05:40] <Managu> shadow_mil: you may (1) not have a well supported graphics card, (2) be experience install problems
[05:40] <capgadget> I haven't gotten much out of beagle yet.  It has alot of overhead.
[05:40] <holycow> Bilford, :)
[05:41] <Managu> holycow: breezy badger isn't exactly dapper
[05:41] <high-freq> who's the pcmcia guru's here?
[05:41] <holycow> oh i thought he said dapper for some reason, my bad :)
[05:41] <high-freq> thats what i need help wit
[05:41] <Shadow_mil> If I login and do a init 1 with sudo, it will load the GUI just fine, join to +1
[05:41] <Bilford> Dapper is comeing out on 6/6/6, right
[05:41] <zcat[1] > my family's been using dapper since yesterday. no major issues yet
[05:41] <Bilford> D for Devil
[05:41] <Apostle^> nickrud, so i need to find comcast's usenet server?
[05:41] <zcat[1] > 1/6/6 iirc..
[05:42] <Bilford> oh
[05:42] <nickrud> Apostle^, precisely
[05:42] <zcat[1] > they should have scheduled it for 6/6/6 though..
[05:42] <holycow> Shadow_mil, my appologies for some reason i thought you were using dapper ... nm, stick around someone might know
[05:42] <Bilford> Apostle^ try news.comcast.com  and enter your username password
[05:42] <ubuntu_> 666
[05:42] <The_Hague> slackern, Im a hisotorian/author and I need to also have a way to auto grab and archive news/publications/etc daily, I was thinking : how can I use RSS and then download and archive all the latest feed.
[05:42] <holycow> Shadow_mil, tell us where exactly it is stuck?
[05:42] <Bilford> Apostle^- IN Klibido
[05:42] <capgadget> I think M$ vista had 6/6/6 scheduled 2-3 years ago but they missed that target.
[05:42] <nickrud> Apostle^, then from the menu bar in pan tools->newservers, and define it there
[05:43] <Bilford> or Pan
[05:43] <The_Hague> * all those lat3st feeds
[05:43] <The_Hague> :p
[05:43] <zcat[1] > Isn't the PSP version of GTA due out 6/6/6 ?
[05:43] <bradley_> does any one know how to get quicktime (.mov) to work? or is it even possible? (ps. java is running now)
[05:43] <slackern> The_Hague, oh that im afraid i don't know much of myself, never even tried RSS myself except for the standard RSS things that comes with Mozilla Firefox.
[05:43] <ubuntu_> next 7/7/7
[05:43] <Bilford> the Summer Olympics start at 0800 on 08/08/08
[05:44] <The_Hague> slackern, yeah I thought I may be able to script somthing but yea, still thinking it through.
[05:44] <Shadow_mil> holycow: I think its not loading the grapical stuff on boot up, I am getting ready to check the boot process see if I disabled anything I should not have
[05:44] <Managu> bradley_: I think I remember seeing something about that in the Wiki.  Have you searched it yet?
[05:44] <zcat[1] > Hmmmm.. 6 minutes and 6 seconds after 6am, on 6/6/06 might be an interesting one
[05:44] <holycow> Shadow_mil, your able to log in via command line?
[05:44] <zcat[1] > 06:06:06 06/06/06
[05:44] <Bilford> GMT
[05:44] <slackern> The_Hague, It should be doable, but im not sure i know how :)
[05:44] <The_Hague> slackern, ill check into what you recommended though.
[05:44] <The_Hague> thnk!
[05:44] <pyrotic> Ok.. I will post again...
[05:44] <ubuntu_> and size of iso is 666MB
[05:44] <IcemanV9> mozilla thunderbird can handle rss feeds, newsgroup, etc .. great app
[05:44] <Bilford> lol
[05:45] <bradley_> i did. nothing showed up... i searched "quicktime' and 'quick time'.
[05:46] <nickrud> zcat[1] , you're reaching there :)
[05:46] <Bilford> bradley_, if you use Firefox, add an Ubuntu forums module to the Search bar
[05:46] <Falluccer> I'm new with linux and need a little help, I need to install my usb ethernet adapter's drivers but there all windows drivers
[05:46] <cafuego> does anything happen when you just plug it in?
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> Falluccer,  you mean a usb-wireless doo-dad? :P
[05:47] <Falluccer> I've read up on that app your supposed to use but I'm confused about how to get it working
[05:47] <CaptainMorgan> how come the block function doesn't work in Gaim ?
[05:47] <zcat[1] > bah.. I skipped a lecture when I was at university to observe 12:34:56 7/8/90
[05:47] <Falluccer> yes, usb wireless
[05:47] <PORDO> apt-get install me long time.
[05:47] <IcemanV9> Bilford: ubuntu forums module? really? i only have ubuntu package search
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> Falluccer,  well.. all i can say is ... good luck. :P
[05:47] <cafuego> !ndiswrapper
[05:47] <ubotu> I guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[05:47] <joedj> bradley_: https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats says that mplayer and xine can play QuickTime using built-in codecs
[05:47] <Managu> Falluccer: It might very well be the case that there exists no linux support for your device.
[05:47] <Shadow_mil> holycow: yeah
[05:47] <zcat[1] > or perhaps it was 01:23:45 6/7/89 .. I'm not suite sure
[05:47] <CaptainMorgan> !gaim
[05:47] <ubotu> hmm... gaim is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto
[05:47] <zcat[1] > *quite
[05:48] <Shadow_mil> holycow I think I might have found my problem
[05:48] <holycow> Shadow_mil, then your allright.  debugging this can be hard as it can be anything
[05:48] <Shadow_mil> my user's login shell is set to /bin/bash
[05:48] <Bilford> IcemanV9-  http://mycroft.mozdev.org/download.html?name=ubuntu&sherlock=yes&opensearch=&submitform=Search
[05:48] <zcat[1] > duh.. the first one.. I missed 01:23:45 (that would have been 1am)
[05:49] <Managu> Falluccer: What's the make and model of your device, and what research have you already done?
[05:49] <IcemanV9> Bilford: sweet.
[05:49] <Bilford> we just passed 6 5/ 4 3: 21
[05:49] <Shadow_mil> holycow: Whats the login shell for the GUI?
[05:49] <Managu> shadow_mil: gdm?
[05:49] <holycow> login shell for gui? what do you mean?
[05:50] <holycow> Shadow_mil, login is loging for your account, it doesn't matter how you login, l/p is always the same
[05:50] <Shadow_mil> holycow: I am on kubantu btw
[05:50] <bradley_> joedj: i think they are refering to .avi not .mov
[05:50] <zcat[1] > 01:02:03 04/05/06? damn..
[05:50] <Bilford> yeah
[05:50] <Bilford> I missed that one
[05:50] <Falluccer> I need help getting ndiswrapper to work
[05:50] <bradley_> bilford: how do i add an ubuntu forums module?
[05:50] <Managu> bradley_: from experience, mplayer can play just about everything
[05:50] <Bilford> bradley_-  http://mycroft.mozdev.org/download.html?name=ubuntu&sherlock=yes&opensearch=&submitform=Search
[05:50] <Falluccer> that's what i've been asking
[05:51] <zcat[1] > dammit, I haven't set the printer up yet. Sue just tried to print a webpage...
[05:51] <Falluccer> I don't get how you get the utilities onto the computer to use it
[05:51] <Managu> Falluccer: I can't say for certain, but I expect that ndiswrapper won't do anything for you; it's meant to work with internal devices and pci cards
[05:51] <zcat[1] > afkbrb
[05:51] <cafuego> Falluccer: Step one: you probably need top upgrade to dapper, as ndiswrapper 1.4 (breezy) and usb wifi are not friends.
[05:51] <Shadow_mil> I have to login on a commandline, then I get a bash shell, I am thinking it might be because the login shell is set to /bin/bash, there are how ever, about 9-10 shells I can pick
[05:51] <ubuntu_> i just plug another cd writer for burning
[05:51] <Bilford> is Dapper much different than Breezy
[05:51] <ubuntu_> i am on live
[05:52] <nickrud> Bilford, not really, but yes
[05:52] <holycow> Shadow_mil, just login using your login name and pass you created at install
[05:52] <bradley_> managu: i have mplayer but i can't load any quicktime (.mov) when checking out trailers online (movie trailers are my test subjects)
[05:52] <vbgunz> is there a way to make qt applications look native on Gnome?
[05:52] <Falluccer> I looked and it supports my adapter
[05:52] <Managu> bradley_: can you download the movie trailer in its entirety, or are you using streaming video?
[05:53] <holycow> Shadow_mil, your loging in your account, it makes no difference whether you use shell interface, kde interface or some futurama parapsychic interface :0
[05:53] <nickrud> Bilford, it won't look much different, but a lot of things will probably work better: video for one
[05:53] <Falluccer> can you help me get it set up step by step
[05:53] <PORDO> what things me notice be different when use dapper over breezy?
[05:53] <Shadow_mil> holycow: then why do I get a command line when I login?
[05:53] <Bilford> nickrud- cool
[05:53] <PORDO> faster mouse?  mouse in breezy too slow.
[05:54] <holycow> Shadow_mil, what? do you get a graphical login menu or do you get a black screen (shell) login menu?
[05:54] <Shadow_mil> I get a black screen
[05:54] <holycow> well thats a shell
[05:54] <zcat[1] > hmmm.. is there a way to make windows-mozilla-in-wine look more like native mozilla? or a way to run shockwave in native mozilla?
[05:54] <holycow> why is that a problem?
[05:54] <holycow> just type in your user name and password
[05:54] <holycow> and log in
[05:54] <Bilford> is it safe to upgrade to Dapper today
[05:54] <holycow> your graphical desktop environment isn't installed properly
[05:54] <Bilford> Dapper pre release
[05:54] <holycow> you can use that interface to log in and fix it
[05:54] <Shadow_mil> My sister is a windows user and a shell confusses her
[05:55] <zcat[1] > Bilford: very unsafe!! :)
[05:55] <Shadow_mil> thats why its a problem
[05:55] <holycow> Shadow_mil, it sounds like it confuses you too
[05:55] <holycow> Shadow_mil, okay stop talking and start listening a bit
[05:55] <holycow> :)
[05:55] <Shadow_mil> it does not, I know my way around a command shell
[05:55] <Shadow_mil> ok
[05:55] <Bilford> zcat[1] -  seirously? why
[05:55] <holycow> lol allright, so if you are comfortable with a shell what exactly do any of your statements above mean?
[05:55] <holycow> you are setting up a system for someone
[05:55] <holycow> fine
[05:55] <holycow> of course we don't want them to use shell
[05:55] <holycow> fine
[05:56] <holycow> your logged into a shell
[05:56] <holycow> fine
[05:56] <holycow> whats the problem?
[05:56] <zcat[1] > seriously I'm running it already, my kids have been playing games and surfing the web under dapper all yesterday.
[05:56] <IcemanV9> Bilford: just wait .. only less than a month away to be released. :)
[05:56] <bradley_> managu: sorry i was gone for so long i was double checking the wiki. um.. i am attepting to stream video.
[05:56] <Bilford> zcat[1] - oh cool
[05:56] <holycow> you have shellf, reinstall the graphical interface compoenents
[05:56] <b3nw> where is the sound device for alsa? /dev/????
[05:56] <holycow> debug any error messages, and get kde running for the computer user
[05:56] <Falluccer> can someone tell me how to put the ndiswrapper tools on my computer to use it
[05:56] <ubuntu_> zcat[1] , what is game? tuxrace?
[05:56] <holycow> Shadow_mil, or ask more specific questions about solving the problem
[05:56] <holycow> Shadow_mil, i'm done :)
[05:56] <Shadow_mil> holycow: no error messages
[05:56] <zcat[1] > I just set up a printer; click 'add printer' and it already knows I have a LJ5L .. too damn easy!
[05:56] <b3nw> Falluccer - check out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[05:57] <Managu> bradley_: ahh, ok.  I admit, I've never tried to get any of that working, but I expect you want to get the mozilla-mplayer plugin working
[05:57] <PORDO> dapper have reiser 4?!  NO!!  you kid!
[05:57] <holycow> Shadow_mil, did you restard kdm?
[05:57] <Managu> Falluccer: can you hear what I'm saying?
[05:57] <b3nw> does anyone know where the sound device for alsa? /dev/????
[05:57] <Shadow_mil> gtg, its lighting and thundering
[05:57] <Shadow_mil> cya
[05:57] <sport|sleep> yo
[05:57] <Managu> b3nw: if you have to specify a sound device, you're probably not using alsa properly
[05:57] <sport|sleep> good or bad idea to use ubuntu
[05:57] <sport|sleep> for my freevo media center
[05:57] <sport|sleep> :-p
[05:57] <b3nw> Managu - it doesn't exist or ?
[05:58] <zcat[1] > ubuntu_ supertux, planetpenguin, but mostly neopets games (which use  flash8 and shockwave, so I run windows firefox in wine with the windoed plugins)
[05:58] <holycow> sport|sleep, it doesn't matter
[05:58] <Falluccer> dude, I looked at the ndiswrapper wiki page AND IT SUPPORT MY ADAPTER
[05:58] <holycow> sport|sleep, ubuntu or debian are almost identical,  both will let you setup a server super easy
[05:58] <b3nw> Managu - trying to setup a relay for skype that uses /dev/dsp, just don't know where to send it
[05:58] <Managu> b3nw: it does, but programs which use alsa sound use a higher level interface (alsalib).
[05:58] <b3nw> make sense?
[05:58] <ftewdal> anyone have an nforce4 board with built in nic?
[05:58] <nullified> I've spent 2 hours trying to get world of warcraft to work on linux. Using this ubuntu guide that they have provided and it doesnt work, Im near tears so im off to bed. Gnight all
[05:59] <Managu> b3nw: assuming you have alsa-oss emulation setup, /dev/dsp should work fine
[05:59] <b3nw> hmmm how to test of that works?
[05:59] <zcat[1] > nullified: linux sucks for gaming.   WoW works fine for me
[06:00] <nullified> zcat[1] : My windows machine's GFX card just died....its only temp....i
[06:00] <nullified> Plus i would like wow to work on linux anyhow
[06:00] <nullified> nn
[06:00] <holycow> allright now i have a question: i'm thinking of buying this http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/FastTrackUSB-main.html
[06:01] <bradley_> managu: i think i have them running, but i'll double check. my test site is: www.apple.com/trailers. streaming generally works though right? from what i can read this (.mov) is just a bit of a prickly pickle!
[06:01] <holycow> it will push sound out to a usb port ... thus my question is can i source sound FROM a usb port?
[06:01] <liquidindian> Is there a way of playing last.fm streams through Amarok, anyone?
[06:01] <zcat[1] > If I ever feel the urge to play games, I'll probably get an xbox. and the first thing I'll do is modchip it so I can run myth
[06:01] <holycow> oh god no
[06:01] <holycow> why support the behemoth?
[06:01] <holycow> :)
[06:01] <borandon> lol
[06:02] <holycow> send your money to th enice folks at sony instead!
[06:02] <holycow> *cough* :)
[06:02] <borandon> i wonder what the new nintendo will be like
[06:02] <zcat[1] > support? no.. they subsidise the hardware.. I'll run Linux with MS subsidizing my hardware..
[06:02] <Managu> bradley_: To be honest, multimedia is probably the area which has the poorest support under Ubuntu.  There are so many legal hazzards that it's very difficult to support everything, even though there's freely available code that does just about everything
[06:02] <Madpilot> holycow, since when does Sony qualify as nice?  :P
[06:02] <borandon> i heard the controller is like putting your hand in a virtual box, the machine being able to read where it's at and how it moves
[06:03] <zcat[1] > I think that was sarcasim
[06:03] <holycow> Madpilot, hehe :) i know your screwed either way
[06:03] <holycow> Madpilot, my only hope is that the ps3 has a linux os and somehow that spurrs some development for tools on this platform
[06:03] <Falluccer> also, when I put in a flopy disk it says it can't mount it, what could be the problem
[06:04] <Madpilot> heh
[06:04] <holycow> tho because of the cel processor we will never see any ports this way
[06:04] <Madpilot> anyway, game console chat & similar to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[06:04] <vbgunz> is there a way to make qt apps appear native on Gnome?
[06:04] <holycow> so anyway, anyone ever source sound via usb port by chance? ... just curious if it can be done
[06:04] <b3nw> if OSS is properly fowarded to ALSA one should be able to play music from a device pointed at /dev/dsp and alsa? at the same time?
[06:04] <borandon> nope
[06:05] <Falluccer> I am so confused about installing ndiswrapper
[06:05] <Apostle^> nickrud, it tells me incorrect pass on pan eventhough it;s right
[06:05] <borandon> but i stayed at a holiday inn last night
[06:05] <Managu> Falluccer: can you read what I'm typing?
[06:05] <holycow> b3nw, *hmm* i'll take note of that and do a bit more research
[06:05] <Falluccer> don't you read what i'm typing
[06:05] <borandon> i read what everybody is typing
[06:06] <b3nw> holycow: just having a hell of a time trying to get skype to work, but not have it completely takeover my sound, so for example if I get an aim message, I can still hear a sound for it
[06:06] <Falluccer> Managu: I went throught the ndiswrapper wiki and it supports my adapter
[06:06] <Managu> Falluccer: by chipset, or by make and model?
[06:06] <high-freq> anyone have probs wit    prism2_config() failed
[06:06] <bradley_> managu: oh well that is that then (for now) i have one last question-- i just checked out some non-quicktime streaming (using the mplayer plug-in) and it opened it in a separate window and is choppy. do you have any ideas for that?
[06:06] <nickrud> Apostle^, no clue about why your isp is rejecting the password; you can watch the handshake if you install ethereal
[06:06] <Falluccer> make and model
[06:06] <zcat[1] > holycow: USB sound is basically the same as any other sound.. you get a /dev/dsp and you run audacity or whatever.. from the user's POV there's no difference
[06:06] <Falluccer> netgear wg111v2
[06:06] <Apostle^> nickrud, maybe i need to signup for it
[06:07] <holycow> b3nw, *nod* i've only read terrible things about it ... not mentioning the fact it uses a proprietary protocol which to me is completely unethical to use
[06:07] <holycow> zcat[1] , /dev/dsp is NOT usb
[06:07] <nickrud> Apostle^, I've always had free newservers with my isp password, but I've never used comcast
[06:07] <sstchur> I'm trying to do something that I assume should be simple:  install new mouse cursors for X -- I'm running XFCE and cannot find any obvious way to do this.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[06:07] <high-freq> lol...i almost bought a wg111v2 usb wireless....till i read it had to be used with ndiswrapper ;(
[06:07] <holycow> zcat[1] , i'm grabbing sound from /dev/usb tho ... so i guess i'll haveto see how that works
[06:07] <zcat[1] > dunno.. friend of mine has a USB transmitter. We plugged it in and up came /dev/dsp3 and he could play sound through it.. no special drivers or anything
[06:08] <Managu> bradley_: errm, faster processor?  it may be that mplayer is using a sub-optimal choice of audio and video outputs.  There's probably some way to configure it (you almost certainly want "alsa" as the audo output and "xv" as the video output), but you'd have to hunt around
[06:08] <zcat[1] > except on reboot it came up as /dev/dsp
[06:08] <holycow> weird, why would it come up as a dsp device?
[06:08] <zcat[1] > in the end we forced the other drivers to load first..
[06:08] <zcat[1] > it's a sound device.. it comes up just like any other sound device
[06:08] <holycow> *hmm* interesting, okay at least someone had it working
[06:09] <holycow> zcat[1] , ah interesting so usb only becomes a transport ... okay right makes sense printers do something similar
[06:09] <holycow> right
[06:09] <holycow> thank you
[06:09] <Falluccer> Card: NETGEAR WG111 version 2 802.11g Wireless USB2.0 Adapter
[06:09] <Falluccer> Chipset: Prism54 (Intersil 3886 and NetChip NET2280) or
[06:09] <Falluccer> Chipset: ? (Intersil 3887 without NetChip NET2280)
[06:09] <Falluccer> usbid: 0846:4240 (both#*Chipsets !)
[06:09] <Falluccer> Driver: Netgear windows driver Version: NETGEAR, Inc.,10/05/2004, 2.1 from http://www.netgear.com or shipped with the setup CD. To get the driver, unzip it. The ndis drivers are in the ndis directory. Used kernel Running Slackware v10.1 (kernel 2.6.10) ndiswrapper ver 1.1rc3 . There is a native driver for Prism54 that is working on USB support. View its status at Prism54.org
[06:09] <zcat[1] > afaik most USB sound devices should work the same.. plug it in, device comes up, use device, be happy.
[06:09] <Falluccer> Other: Works nearly well (several daily crashes in Summer 2005).
[06:09] <Falluccer> Distro-specific: Debian Sarge <IP_ADDRESS>, Ndiswrapper 0.10 Distro-specific: Debian Sid 2.6.8.X, Ndiswrapper 0.12+1.0rc2-1, without rfmon
[06:09] <Falluccer> Other project without ndiswrapper : http://jbnote.free.fr/prism54usb/ (seems incomplete in january 2006 - not supporting WEP or WPA).
[06:09] <Falluccer> Other: With the driver for Sitecom WL-142, this device supports WPA2 and also keeps the device "alive" (with driver from netgear, device stops working after a while): [49] . Note that the device ID for Sitecom is different, so you need to create alias for it for WG111, e.g., with 'ndiswrapper -d 0846:4240 wlanuig', after which 'ndiswrapper -l' should show 'hardware present'.
[06:09] <Falluccer> right off of the wiki page
[06:09] <Bilford> Oh well, I like trying new things.  I think Ill try the Dapper upgrade
[06:10] <nickrud> Falluccer, and a link would have been sufficient
[06:10] <Falluccer> lol
[06:10] <Falluccer> I know
[06:10] <Falluccer> i wasn't thinking
[06:10] <h3h_timo> could anyone recommend a bittorrent client to me?
[06:10] <Falluccer> bittorrent....
[06:10] <Falluccer> the offical client
[06:10] <paradizelost> h3h_timo: azureus
[06:10] <holycow> h3h_timo, ubuntu comes with a gnome torrent client use that
[06:10] <bradley_> they used to play fine with windows. where do i look for alsa and xv-- in mplayer?
[06:11] <h3h_timo> yeah.. well it never connects to torrents... and i dont know where to go to configure wher to do port forwarding
[06:11] <zcat[1] > hahah.. some guy figured out how to reprogram the price per liter on a sself-serve gas pump.. left it $0 and a bunch of people filled up on free gas before they found out..
[06:11] <Bilford> is mplayer free
[06:11] <Bilford> im using vlc
[06:11] <slackern> h3h_timo, i use bittornado
[06:11] <zcat[1] > heard it on the radio..
[06:12] <h3h_timo> yeah i tried that too.. but it wouldnt connect either.. that little icon in the top left corner is always yellow
[06:12] <h3h_timo> !bittorrent
[06:12] <ubotu> bittorrent is probably the BitTorrent FAQ is available at: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[06:12] <Apostle^> Bilford, all linux apps are free except like cedega
[06:12] <zcat[1] > bet they have all the licence plates on cctv though..
[06:12] <nickrud> Bilford, probably
[06:12] <Bilford> ok ty
[06:12] <pyrotic> Hello everybody, I need assistance in installing a Brother MFC-420CN Network Printer...Some of the links you all will post, I probably have tried... but sombody please help me.. I've tried all that I can!... and when I print to default printer.. (the 420CN..) it says successful but no paper comes out the printer.. HMM!... help?
[06:12] <Apostle^> Bilford, question about usenet: it tells me my comcast pass is wrong for no reason
[06:12] <Falluccer> Is anyone able to give me a step by step on how I get ndiswrapper working....
[06:12] <sstchur> Is there something special I need to do to install a theme I download from xfce-look.org?  I can place the archive's folder in /usr/share/themes/ and choose it, but it does not seem to be loading all of the theme -- look clunky like something is missing
[06:12] <nickrud> Bilford, anything that can be gotten from the multiverse repository has some kind of legal hangup, mplayer included
[06:13] <Falluccer> I read the page that was provided before but it all confuses me
[06:13] <Bilford> Apostle^- I dont have comcast.  maybe you need to do<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[06:13] <bradley_> managu: they used to play fine with windows. where do i look for alsa and xv-- in mplayer?
[06:13] <Apostle^> Bilford, ahh yes maybe
[06:13] <Managu> bradley_: I'm sorry, I don't know =(
[06:13] <Bilford> nickrud- ok
[06:13] <nickrud> bradley_, you could try the instructions for a generic mplayer config on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[06:14] <Apostle^> Bilford, didn't work :\
[06:14] <Bilford> Apostle^- maybe news.comcast.com isnt the name of their Usenet servers
[06:15] <pyrotic> Hello everybody, I need assistance in installing a Brother MFC-420CN Network Printer...
[06:15] <Apostle^> Bilford, well it says wrong username or pass so it seems like it is :\
[06:15] <Bilford> Apostle^   newsgroups.comcast.net
[06:15] <partin> question - I have a rt2500 chipset wireless pcmcia networking card. the rt2500 module is loaded, but lspci is not showing the card. Any suggestions on what I shoud try so that lspci shows the card?
[06:16] <pyrotic> hm.. looks like nobody can help me..
[06:16] <high-freq> pyrotic: did u try the cups server
[06:16] <Bilford> pyrotic=  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105703&highlight=Brother+MFC-420CN+Network+Printer
[06:17] <pyrotic> high-freq yea but it does not list my driver
[06:17] <Managu> Falluccer: you have the driver disk that came with the card?
[06:17] <high-freq> pyrotic: cups didn't find it?
[06:17] <high-freq> wow
[06:17] <pyrotic> high-freq nope.
[06:17] <Apostle^> Bilford, that isn't working either
[06:17] <pyrotic> high-freq didn't find it on USB, nor Network.
[06:17] <Bilford> pyrotic-  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105703&highlight=Brother+MFC-420CN+Network+Printer
[06:17] <Bilford> Apostle^-  http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=Newsgroups118224
[06:17] <pyrotic> bilford Ok, I'll try that, thanks
[06:18] <high-freq> pyrotic: no i mean the driver....it didn't find the driver for your puter....?  don't worry if its not on the puter....just need to find driver first
[06:18] <orbin> any recommendations for bittorrent clients besides the default installed one?
[06:18] <pyrotic> high-freq Give me a minute, bilford gave me this howto, I'll try it, if it doesn't work, I will contact you again, Thanks for your patience.
[06:19] <Apostle^> Bilford, it doesn't say what port, 119 ?
[06:19] <Bilford> Apostle^- yeah
[06:20] <Apostle^> Bilford, got it now, thanks how do i get on alt.binaries.audio.lossless or whatever it is lol
[06:20] <Falluccer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[06:20] <Managu> orbin: I've heard some rave reviews of uTorrent
[06:20] <Bilford> Apostle^-  Server - Get List of Groups
[06:20] <Falluccer> it says there to Copy the appropriate files over to a directory on your Ubuntu computer (e.g. your Home directory) and install them in this order
[06:21] <Falluccer> where should I copy the files
[06:21] <h3h_timo> !azureus
[06:21] <ubotu> somebody said azureus was a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[06:21] <orbin> Managu: so nothing good in the repos?
[06:21] <orbin> thanks h3h_timo
[06:21] <Bilford> Automatix will install Azureus
[06:21] <zcat[1] > is there an easy way to get OOo to print 4-pages per sheet of paper so I can fold it into a booklet?
[06:22] <zcat[1] > (2 pages per side, portrait)
[06:22] <Managu> orbin: I suppose I'll answer that with: What's wrong with the default installed client?
[06:22] <Apostle^> Bilford, okay, how do i now search for a certain thing
[06:22] <orbin> Managu: rather simplistic...i used bitcomet recently and it gave a lot more info on what was happening
[06:22] <Bilford> Apostle^- Newsgroup- Subscribe to Newsgroup
[06:22] <pyrotic> bilford - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13968
[06:23] <Apostle^> Bilford, k did that
[06:23] <dli> does "about:config" still work with firefox in ubuntu?
[06:23] <Managu> orbin: you might look into azureus.      I just posted that link.  high-freq might know
[06:25] <orbin> h3h_timo: should i still get all this java stuff if i have j1.5 installed?
[06:25] <Bilford> dli- No, I used it to fix the IP6 thing
[06:25] <pyrotic> high-freq - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13968 -
[06:25] <h3h_timo> i dont think you need it
[06:26] <Apostle^> Bilford, it's downloading but it has to get like 250,000 things
[06:26] <h3h_timo> when you do java -version what do you get?
[06:26] <Bilford> Apostle^- yeah, welcome to Usenet lol
[06:26] <Managu> orbin: that said, BitTorrent is much happier if you fire and forget than if you poke and mess.  Most of the time at least
[06:26] <Apostle^> Bilford, i just want to search for music lol..
[06:26] <orbin> h3h_timo: java version "1.4.2"
[06:26] <partin> question - I have a rt2500 chipset wireless pcmcia networking card. the rt2500 module is loaded, but lspci is not showing the card. Any suggestions on what I shoud try so that lspci shows the card?
[06:26] <Bilford> Apostle^-  you have to download the headers first
[06:27] <Apostle^> Bilford, i see, only reason i'm on usenet is because i was told it is the best place for lossless audio
[06:27] <h3h_timo> umm mine is 1.5.0_06 so you could update it
[06:27] <orbin> Managu: i don't want to poke and mess.  i just find it interesting to see how many peers etc. are connected.
[06:27] <Angel-SL> !seen nalioth
[06:27] <ubotu> nalioth is currently on #kubuntu (1d 8h 2m 5s) #ubuntu+1 (1d 8h 2m 5s) #ubuntu-offtopic (1d 8h 2m 5s) #kubuntu-offtopic (1d 8h 2m 5s) #ubuntu (1d 8h 2m 5s)
[06:27] <h3h_timo> do you want the link with the steps to do it?
[06:27] <Managu> partin: first things first, lspci should show the card with or without the module; I'd unload the module and try to find the card first =)
[06:27] <orbin> h3h_timo: i thought i installa 1.5 ... i used the restricted wiki page
[06:27] <pyrotic> bilford what is the delete command?
[06:28] <h3h_timo> hmm
[06:28] <whiter> rm
[06:28] <h3h_timo> oh i know what to do.. hold on a sec
[06:28] <pyrotic> whiter thanks
[06:28] <Bilford> pyrotic- I dont know . I just switched to Linux a few days ago.  I used to use NewsLeecher
[06:28] <partin> managu, how do you suggest I go about that?
[06:28] <orbin> h3h_timo: about:plugins in ff shows 1.5
[06:28] <h3h_timo> i forget the command wait like 30 seconds
[06:28] <orbin> ok
[06:28] <Apostle^> Bilford, so once it's done downloading the million headers i can download music?
[06:28] <Managu> partin: I don't know anything about your setup.  PCI card?  Motherboard built-in?  I've admittedly never heard of this rt2500 wireless chipset
[06:29] <Bilford> Apostle^- yes
[06:29] <h3h_timo> do you know how to set it up so its the default java system?
[06:29] <Apostle^> Bilford, is it just point and click or do i need to know anything
[06:29] <Apostle^> !alternatejava
[06:29] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Apostle^
[06:29] <Apostle^> !alternate java
[06:29] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Apostle^
[06:29] <Apostle^> hmm their is a command........
[06:29] <Bilford> Apostle^- pretty much.  you just have to use it
[06:29] <orbin> h3h_timo: er probably not
[06:29] <Madpilot> h3h_timo, check the wiki's Java page
[06:29] <Madpilot> !java
[06:29] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:29] <Hobbsee> Apostle^: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:29] <Apostle^> yea
[06:29] <Apostle^> that one
[06:29] <h3h_timo> yeah hold on ill do it for ya
[06:29] <Hobbsee> :)
[06:29] <Apostle^> :-D
[06:29] <h3h_timo> i know where it is i just did it today
[06:30] <partin> managu, the rt2500 chipset is one of ralink chipsets supported by linux. my card is a pc card that I insert in my laptop.
[06:30] <Apostle^> Bilford, going to be a few hours :\ do i need to do this each time?
[06:30] <Diego> hello everyone
[06:30] <orbin> Madpilot, h3h_timo : ah, i see it, thanks
[06:30] <h3h_timo>   sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:30] <Bilford> Apostle^ a few hours?
[06:30] <h3h_timo> got it?
[06:31] <Managu> partin: oh my.  I haven't ever had any luck with CardBus either =(
[06:31] <Apostle^> Bilford, their is like millions of the files to download
[06:31] <h3h_timo> orbin, you good?
[06:31] <Diego> How large of a partition should I make for Ubuntu on my hard drive?
[06:31] <Apostle^> Bilford, 2987280
[06:31] <Diego> I mean, I want to try it out first, and hopefully, eventually make the full swtich from WINDOWS
[06:31] <Bilford> Apostle^-  youre probably getting headers from a month back or more.  so next time you update, youll only be getting a day or two worth
[06:31] <benplaut> is there a way to extract 7zip files without the 7zip client?
[06:31] <Madpilot> Diego, at least 5Gb - go for 8 or 10 if you've got the space
[06:32] <Managu> partin: does anything happen in your logs when you insert the card into the laptop?  Use "tail -20 /var/log/messages" and "dmesg | tail -20" to look at the system log and the kernel ring buffer
[06:32] <Bilford> benplaut- Ark ?
[06:32] <pyrotic> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13968 ----------- anybody?
[06:32] <benplaut> k
[06:32] <Diego> Well I only have 11 GB free, so I was didnt want to take up to much space from my WINDOWS installation
[06:32] <orbin> h3h_timo: yep, thanks...why does ff see 1.5 though if it wasnt the default?
[06:32] <Diego> alright, ill try it with 7
[06:32] <Diego> Thanks for the help
[06:32] <Bilford> pyrotic-  That how-To guide seemd to have lots of info.  did you read it all
[06:33] <Madpilot> Diego, Ubuntu takes around 1.8Gb for a basic install, but you'll need space to add new apps, and for a /home area
[06:33] <pyrotic> bilford yes I did, but I'm stuck at this install part because it keeps saying trying to overwrite, the file that is not there, because mfc420cnlpr has it also..
[06:33] <partin> tail -20 /var/log/messages
[06:33] <high-freq> pyrotic: check out line 006
[06:33] <Managu> partin: hehe, at a console =p
[06:33] <high-freq> looks like its mispelled or somethin ...so someone might have compiled it wrong
[06:33] <high-freq> trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/brprintconfij2', which is also in package mfc420cnlpr
[06:33] <partin> managu, yea i know ;-)
[06:33] <high-freq> see if u have a brprintconfij2  in /usr/bin
[06:33] <h3h_timo> i dunno the system and ff must have different ways of seeing the newest version u know? maybe ff just automatically recognized it, while ubuntu didnt
[06:34] <Apostle^> Bilford, not liking usenet so far lol
[06:34] <pyrotic> high-freq I did.. I deleted the brprintconfij2
[06:34] <Diego> Madpilot, Do you think that 7 then woul be enough?
[06:34] <Managu> pyrotic: you could try to force it (dpkg --force-overwrites), but that's a _bad_, _bad_ idea, unless you know what you're doing, or just don't care about trashing your system
[06:34] <high-freq> might be a bad deb file then ;(
[06:34] <mikomiko> this is more getting frequent, my firefox shuts down once in a while, how do i know if there is something causing it
[06:34] <liquidindian> How do I find the debian package I installed?
[06:34] <mikomiko> i dont know why it is acting up
[06:34] <Madpilot> Diego, should be, if you're keeping most of your files in your Windows partition for now
[06:35] <pyrotic> managu I do care.. :P
[06:35] <Bilford> Apostle^-   maybe try  http://www.newzbin.com/
[06:35] <holycow> mikomiko, i would be willing to bet you have tons of extensions installed
[06:35] <Diego> Madpilot, do you think 7GB would be enoguh?
[06:35] <Madpilot> Diego, it should be, yes
[06:35] <mikomiko> tons of extensions? I do not even know what is meant by extensions
[06:35] <mikomiko> lol
[06:35] <partin> managu, it does not show up. this is strange. I have had this card working in this laptop before where a 'ifup ra0' would bring it up.
[06:36] <Diego> thank you
[06:36] <Apostle^> Bilford, whats that
[06:36] <pyrotic> should I try to force it? :S
[06:36] <holycow> mikomiko, in that case thats not the problem :)
[06:36] <mikomiko> how do i reinstall my firefox
[06:36] <Bilford> Apostle^- Search engine for Usenet
[06:36] <Apostle^> Bilford, can i download from that website? music files
[06:36] <holycow> sudo apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox
[06:37] <Managu> partin: does sound kinda odd.  Can I presume that you've got some other pc-card (not necessarily a network card) that's working?
[06:37] <Bilford> Apostle^-  do you have cable?
[06:37] <pyrotic> -http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13968- anybody else?
[06:37] <Apostle^> Bilford, yea
[06:37] <metatag> exit
[06:37] <metatag> quit
[06:37] <partin> managu, yep. i'm on the laptop now. just not wirelessly.
[06:38] <pyrotic> managu should I force it? :S
[06:38] <Bilford> Apostle^-  You should probably just wait for the headers to download.  with cable it shouldnt be too long.  its a one-time deal for the group
[06:38] <Managu> pyrotic: at your own risk.  It's probably not a very large risk -- but you might do a simulation first.  Errm, lemme see...
[06:39] <Diego> What is a good, free partioning tool to create the 7GB partition?
[06:39] <mikomiko> what are the leading browsers for ubuntu
[06:39] <JustinH> Does anyone know of a mirror for EasyUbuntu??  The weblink in the Forum is down.
[06:39] <mikomiko> aside from firefox
[06:39] <orbin> ok, azureus tried to update but i get: version 1.8.3 of plugin 'azupdater' failed to install - Invalid ZIP-file
[06:39] <Bilford> orbin-  It still works
[06:39] <orbin> Bilford: that's normal?
[06:39] <orbin> :-/
[06:39] <Bilford> orbin- I got that error
[06:39] <Bilford> orbin- Im sure theres a way to fix it, but it works , so i didnt bother
[06:39] <pyrotic> managu I just built this comp a year ago I don't need ntohin' screwed up on it.. so if it's going to harm hardware or something, I won't do it.. but.. it seems quite harmless as t is just a printer install..
[06:40] <orbin> Bilford: oh, ok.. lol
[06:40] <Wirwing> hey, i need help with Mplayer :S
[06:40] <Managu> pyrotic: oh, the idea is that this would mess up your software.  It won't be any more risky than normal for your hardware
[06:40] <Hobbsee> nalioth: any idea on JustinH's question?
[06:40] <Apostle^> Bilford, when i find something on newzbin how do i download it
[06:40] <pyrotic> managu ok.. I'm willing to try it... just this one...
[06:41] <high-freq> pyrotic: wait
[06:41] <high-freq> pyrotic: have u checked out this...   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105703
[06:41] <pyrotic> high-freq ok
[06:41] <Managu> partin: wish I had any other ideas for you =(
[06:41] <voraistos> hey people. I have too ubuntu machines, and i want to boot one through the network, with the other one... is it possible ?
[06:41] <voraistos> two*
[06:41] <nalioth> JustinH: may i suggest you join #easyubuntu.  sometimes late breaking info is in the /topic there
[06:41] <pyrotic> high-freq that's where I'm at, but when I go to install the lpr driver, I get this - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13968 -
[06:42] <high-freq> hmm
[06:42] <JustinH> @ nalioth : ok, thank you
[06:42] <Bilford> Apostle^- Newzbin is a subscription service
[06:42] <mikomiko> how do i install OPERA in ubuntu
[06:43] <Apostle^> Bilford, ahh.......
[06:43] <Diego> Can some one help me?
[06:43] <Apostle^> !opera
[06:43] <ubotu> opera is, like, not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[06:43] <partin> managu, i'm gonna try a cold boot with the pc-card installed.
[06:43] <pyrotic> high-freq any ideas.. ?
[06:43] <pyrotic> high-freq shold I force it?
[06:43] <high-freq> well thats got to be a deb issue then
[06:43] <Diego> I want to create a 7GB partition for Ubuntu, can I do that through UBUNTU or do I need to download a 3rd party application?
[06:43] <high-freq> ya try and force it
[06:43] <pyrotic> high-freq ok, what's the command to force it.. just force install?
[06:44] <high-freq> not sure
[06:44] <orbin> Diego: is this pre-install or post-install?
[06:44] <pyrotic> high-freq ok I'll try..
[06:44] <Diego> pre-install
[06:44] <Diego> I havent done it yet, and Im on windows right now
[06:44] <Diego> I
[06:44] <Diego> I've already downloaded the ISO and burned it to a CD
[06:44] <orbin> ubotu: tell Diego about dualboot
[06:44] <Managu> Diego: <standard gloom-and-doom disclaimer>  I know that the dapper live cd had a nice partitioner which claims to be able to resize (just about anything)
[06:44] <voraistos> diego: u should format the whole disk ;)
[06:44] <mikomiko> my opera file is in desktop
[06:44] <mikomiko> how do i install it
[06:45] <samuli> gparted in dapper's live cd borged my partition when I tried to resize, so beware
[06:45] <pyrotic> managu ok.. how do I force it then?
[06:45] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell mikomiko about opera
[06:46] <high-freq> pyrotic:  maybe  dpkg --force-overwrite -i  blahblah.deb
[06:46] <mikomiko> i have downloaded it
[06:46] <mikomiko> i just want to install it
[06:46] <Managu> pyrotic: "sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i <package-name>", where you replace <package-name> with the appropriate filename
[06:46] <voraistos> mikomiko: just us the wiki, everything is there ;)
[06:46] <mikomiko> When i type sudo dpkg -i opera<Tab key>.deb
[06:46] <Trashcan> lol kernel panic from pasting text
[06:47] <Trashcan> gg beta os
[06:47] <mikomiko> where is the terminal looking for the file
[06:47] <Apostle^> mikomiko, in the current dir
[06:47] <mikomiko> coz the file i downloaded is in the desktop
[06:47] <voraistos> mikomiko: ?
[06:47] <yorkdan> hey all
[06:47] <Apostle^> mikomiko, cd ~/Desktop
[06:47] <voraistos> lol
[06:47] <pyrotic> managu GAH! - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13969
[06:47] <yorkdan> A quick Question I have just installed webmin... was wondering what the default login details are for root or any user?
[06:48] <high-freq> yorkdan: i think its your usernam and password
[06:48] <Managu> pyrotic: are you sure those packages weren't meant to be mutually exclusive?
[06:48] <yorkdan> I tried that with no luck
[06:48] <Wirwing> when i try to open a .asf video (Vdeo Microsoft ASF), it shows me "ERROR: Itcould open required directshow codec wmvd codec.dll", "MPlayer interrupted by Signal 11 in Module: decode_video", Mplayer crashed by bad usager of CPU/FPU/RAM. Recompile MPlayer with --enable debug and make a 'gdb' backtrace and disssembly. Details in DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports_what.htm#bugreports_crash", "-MPlayer crashed. This souldn't happen. It can be a bug in the Mplayer code_o
[06:49] <GliderMike> IIRC Ubuntu has webmin disabled by default.  You can get around it by.....memory going here.  Google it and you will find the answer
[06:49] <pyrotic> managu see I've done so many attempts at installing this that I have shit scattered all over the place, and I'm sure some is showing up where they shouldn't be yet... and damnit I need this printer installed :|
[06:49] <Bilford> yorkdan   try root with no pw
[06:49] <GaiaX11> How to install skype?
[06:49] <voraistos> wirwing: i had the same just yesterday :(
[06:49] <high-freq> Wirwing: have u tried the win32codecs?
[06:49] <yorkdan> ok ill try now
[06:49] <GliderMike> I think you have to add your username to the "shadow" group or some such
[06:49] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell yorkdan about webmin
[06:50] <partin> managu, after power cycling, lspci now shows the card.
[06:50] <liquidindian> I've just installed a debian package, and it's not on the menu.  How do I go about putting it there?
[06:50] <Wirwing> high-freq: sudo aptitude install win32codecs?
[06:50] <yorkdan> why is webmin no longer suppported by ubuntu?
[06:50] <Managu> partin: oh, cool, that's definitely progress
[06:50] <samuli> GaiaX11, there's debian package at skype's website.
[06:50] <voraistos> wirwing: winmedia codecs are not fully suported, did u try with VLC ?
[06:50] <Wirwing> voraistos: and what i should do? how i can fix this? :S
[06:50] <|Sivik|> i order to view flash, don't i need to install the flashplugin-nonfree
[06:50] <GaiaX11> I have this package
[06:50] <GliderMike> no idea why on webmine, other than I think they figure the included tools should do it.
[06:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Wirwing about w32codecs
[06:50] <mikomiko> i got this problem
[06:50] <mikomiko> Unpacking replacement opera ...
[06:50] <mikomiko> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of opera:
[06:50] <mikomiko>  opera depends on xlib6g (>= 3.3.6) | xlibs; however:
[06:50] <mikomiko>   Package xlib6g is not installed.
[06:50] <samuli> gaia, the just type sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[06:51] <Apostle^> Bilford, 38% :\
[06:51] <nalioth> mikomiko: please read the /topic and don't paste in here
[06:51] <voraistos> wirwing: if it doesnt work with VLC, it wont work. certainly your wmv is protected
[06:51] <high-freq> Wirwing: not too sure on that one....i just did search on win32codecs and nada....but i thought there's a wiki on it
[06:51] <partin> managu, but very troubling. i'd like to be able to hotplug the card.
[06:51] <Badm4n> i'm curious about 1 thing
[06:51] <high-freq> !win32codecs
[06:51] <ubotu> [win32codecs]  binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[06:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mikomiko about opera
[06:51] <Bilford> Apostle^, well, you can abort and I'll show you an easier way
[06:51] <Managu> pyrotic: I'd suggest going forward from that point in the howto (those messages are just what you told dpkg to do).  If it eventually still doesn't work ... well, then you might want to purge both packages ("sudo dpkg --purge <packagename>") and start over
[06:51] <Apostle^> Bilford, how?
[06:51] <Wirwing> high-freq: and how i can install VLC?
[06:52] <GaiaX11> But when i do dpkg -i skype ... it complains about libqt3c102 ...
[06:52] <Managu> partin: could it have been a one time fluke?  If you remove and reinstall the card, does it disappear for lspci?
[06:52] <nalioth> Wirwing: sudo apt-get remove vlc
[06:52] <Badm4n> i do apt-get install apache then this morning i do apt-get remove apache then i use apt-get install apache2 . apache folder still exist.is this might be a prob ?
[06:52] <Bilford> can you cancel the update in the Quueue
[06:52] <high-freq> Wirwing: not sure...i don't have much on laptop...hehe
[06:52] <jay> join #ruby-lang
[06:52] <Bilford> Apostle^ can you cancel the update in the Quueue
[06:52] <|Sivik|> i need help with flash
[06:52] <voraistos> mikomiko: u have to install the missing package
[06:52] <Apostle^> Bilford, how do i get the music then
[06:52] <hollowlife1987> Wirwing: if vlc dont work you _could_ try installing wine and then windows media player
[06:52] <Bilford> Apostle^ can you cancel the update in the Quueue
[06:53] <GaiaX11> and then i do dpkg -i libqt ... and it says that have conflict with libqt3mt
[06:53] <Apostle^> Bilford, done
[06:53] <Bilford> ok, is it listing anything
[06:53] <voraistos> mikomiko: try with synaptics
[06:53] <GaiaX11> So, it does not install
[06:53] <Badm4n> help me ok ?
[06:53] <GaiaX11> Then what to do?
[06:53] <Bilford> Apostle^- is there a window showing the headers it downloaded alreadY?
[06:53] <Apostle^> Bilford, yea
[06:53] <Wirwing> nalioth: sudo apt-get REMOVE? vlc ??
[06:54] <liquidindian> What's the equivalent of the program files folder in linux?
[06:54] <Bilford> Apostle^-  try to download some
[06:54] <Bilford> Apostle^ some songs
[06:54] <Apostle^> Bilford, how do i search
[06:54] <pyrotic> managu well.. I did finish the install and it shows MFC210C as a printer, but that's not my printer .. mines an MFC420CN...
[06:54] <|Sivik|> hi all again
[06:54] <high-freq> Badm4n: ya i noticed apt-get remove  doesn't get rid of the folders...try aptitude purge apache   that might....otherwise good ol  rm -r
[06:54] <|Sivik|> i need help with flash
[06:54] <Bilford> Apostle^- theres a search filter at the top
[06:54] <partin> managu, yes. lspci shows the card gone when it is removed, and it shows it when i put it back in.
[06:54] <voraistos> wirwing: just go on synaptics, and select the gnome front end. it will install VLC perfectly
[06:54] <Badm4n> yes it working
[06:55] <Managu> partin: how odd =/
[06:55] <Badm4n> on progress rite now
[06:55] <Badm4n> ty ty
[06:55] <partin> managu, agree.
[06:55] <Managu> pyrotic: be sure to do a test print, see if it's working
[06:55] <high-freq> should just do  apt-get install gnome-vlc    it should d/l the deps for it too...like vlc and such
[06:55] <Wirwing> voraistos: thanks :)
[06:55] <Apostle^> Bilford, in find a type stuff in hit enter, but nothing happen
[06:55] <pyrotic> managu I did, but it didn't print nothing..
[06:55] <Managu> pyrotic: oh, hrrm, well, that howto was for a brother 210C, heh
[06:56] <mikomiko> after seeing Setting up xlibs (6.8.2-77.1) ...
[06:56] <mikomiko>  i see the prompt back
[06:56] <Bilford> Apostle^- better to scroll through the headers and find things you like.   if you want to search and download things, youre better off with aMule
[06:56] <mikomiko> does it means it is finished?
[06:56] <high-freq> anyone know how to fix a  prism2_config() failed  error...i see that in dmesg
[06:56] <pyrotic> managu yea but it apparently should work for my 420CN... but it doesn't :@
[06:56] <voraistos> mikomiko. no
[06:56] <voraistos> mikomiko: install the deb package again.
[06:56] <Bilford> Apostle^- If you have no patience, Usenet isnt for you
[06:56] <pyrotic> managu and it says "printing jobs"... but it never prints
[06:56] <Managu> pyrotic: what makes you think that those drivers should work for your 420n?
[06:57] <Badm4n> root@safana:/home/mirza/public_html# cd /etc/apache
[06:57] <Badm4n> apache/  apache2/
[06:57] <Badm4n> still exist
[06:57] <pyrotic> managu a few forums stated the 210C should work fine for the 420CN
[06:57] <voraistos> mikomiko: once u installed the opera.deb without error, it will work
[06:57] <pyrotic> managu and well, they don't, so.. any ideas now?....
[06:57] <Apostle^> Bilford, okay i found something now, how do i view the message?
[06:57] <Managu> pyrotic: how's the 420 connected to your printer?
[06:57] <Managu> pyrotic: errm, to your computer
[06:58] <Managu> pyrotic: (past my bedtime)
[06:58] <nalioth> mikomiko: if you want opera to work, you need to download the 'static other deb' from the download page
[06:58] <Bilford> Apostle^- Select it, and Ctrl+D
[06:58] <Madpilot> nalioth, the regular Ubuntu deb should work - it does for me
[06:58] <Apostle^> Bilford, .par2 ?
[06:58] <pyrotic> managu haha, no worries, well, I have the USB hooked up right now, but I can also hook it to my router.. it has NIC O it..
[06:58] <h3h_timo> how can i change the firefox icons to the original firefox logos
[06:58] <pyrotic> on*
[06:59] <mikomiko> i surrender
[06:59] <Managu> pyrotic: ok, and if you run "lsusb" at the console, is your printer listed?
[06:59] <mikomiko> it is not easy as i thought it is
[06:59] <Bilford> Apostle^  if you dont know what a par is, just ignore those
[06:59] <voraistos> mikomiko: no u dont ;)
[06:59] <pyrotic> managu no, it is not, only my Saitek controller, and Microsoft OPtical mouse, are listed.. the rest say 00000
[06:59] <voraistos> mikomiko: are u a registered freenode user ?
[07:00] <Managu> pyrotic: ok, that's the first problem to sove
[07:00] <mikomiko> no
[07:00] <pyrotic> managu Ok... and how do I go about solving this problem..
[07:00] <Managu> pyrotic: make sure all the cords are happy, then power-cycle your printer
[07:00] <voraistos> mikomiko: ok, so no pm
[07:00] <Apostle^> Bilford, i don't see the music just .txt and .par2 files
[07:00] <mikomiko> ok
[07:00] <pyrotic> managu they are perfectly fine... power-cycle it?
[07:00] <mikomiko> now i registered
[07:00] <mikomiko> just finished doing so
[07:00] <nalioth> Apostle^: join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:00] <Managu> pyrotic: power-cycle = turn off, then turn on
[07:00] <Wirwing> whats the difference between "VLC for Gnome" and "VLC for Gtk+"???
[07:01] <voraistos> mikomiko:pm me to test ;)
[07:01] <Bilford> Apostle^- I dont know.  maybe Cox filters out the music lol
[07:01] <pyrotic> managu ok, done.
[07:01] <Apostle^> Bilford, i don't use cox
[07:01] <Wirwing> what i should install?
[07:01] <pyrotic> managu there it is listed now
[07:01] <TheCarl> does anybody know of any video editing programs that work with ubuntu that is compatible with MPEG
[07:01] <TheCarl> ?
[07:01] <Bilford> Apostle^- I mean Comcast
[07:01] <Managu> pyrotic: okies.
[07:01] <Managu> pyrotic: try test printing again
[07:02] <nalioth> voraistos: mikomiko is not registered.
[07:02] <pyrotic> Still nothing.
[07:02] <Bilford> but it's more likely a problem on your end, since you had millions of headers to download.  that would imply binaries
[07:02] <Wirwing> whats the difference between "VLC for Gnome" and "VLC for Gtk+"??? What i should install?
[07:02] <Apostle^> Bilford, think i figured it out ..
[07:02] <Bilford> the 2nd one
[07:02] <mikomiko> Is there any browsers for ubuntu aside from firefox
[07:02] <Managu> pyrotic: I'm not incredibly familiar with cups.  If you run "lpq" from the command line, do you see anything?
[07:02] <Bilford> Wirwing- it says the first one isnt supported
[07:03] <Bilford> or discontinued
[07:03] <Managu> mikomiko: a few.  Konquerer, for instance
[07:03] <nalioth> mikomiko: konqueror, links2, galeon, kazehakase, epiphany-browser, opera, and more
[07:03] <pyrotic> MFC-210C is Ready
[07:03] <orbin> TheCarl: don't know if they're compatible, but the only two i've heard of are kino and cinelerra (sp)
[07:03] <TheCarl> I tried Kino, didn't work, so I'll try cinelerra, thanks.
[07:03] <mikomiko> which among them are easy to install
[07:03] <Blue89> I have a ext2 filesystem that works fine, but fails fsck because it thinks it is bigger than it is. how do I fix this and/or the fsck fail at boot?
[07:03] <nalioth> mikomiko: with synaptic, they are all easy to install
[07:04] <pyrotic> managu MFC-210C is Ready
[07:04] <Managu> pyrotic: ok
[07:04] <orbin> TheCarl: /msg ubotu cinelerra
[07:04] <Managu> pyrotic: let's re-do the howto, just to humor me
[07:04] <Badm4n> high-freq :
[07:04] <Managu> pyrotic: first, let's undo the previous install
[07:04] <Badm4n> high-freq : aptitude purge apache
[07:04] <Badm4n> not work
[07:05] <pyrotic> managu ok, step by step please.. I'm a newb :)
[07:05] <Badm4n> still have folder apache
[07:05] <high-freq> hmm
[07:05] <partin> new question? where can i get libdvdcss? apt-get install libdvdcss fails.
[07:05] <high-freq> ok then remove it by hand
[07:05] <Managu> pyrotic: as best as I can synthisize
[07:05] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell partin about dvd
[07:05] <Kyral> !restricted
[07:05] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:05] <high-freq> partin: try searching it... apt-cache search  <package-name>
[07:05] <pyrotic> managu I'm not SO stupid that you need to explain what dpkg means.. but you get the idea of newb :P
[07:05] <pyrotic> managu but.. anyways, what do I do first.
[07:05] <Managu> pyrotic: "sudo apt-get remove mfc210clpr"
[07:06] <pyrotic> managu done.
[07:06] <Managu> pyrotic: also "sudo apt-get remove mfc210cnlpr"
[07:06] <high-freq> Badm4n: or u can use synaptic and do it from there...if its still highlighted then click to remove ..and then click remove all
[07:06] <Bilford> if everything in Linux is free, how does anyone make money
[07:06] <Managu> pyrotic: be sure to inform about any errors or problems
[07:06] <Badm4n> high-freq : how to locate apache only ( not include apache2 )
[07:06] <pyrotic> managu So far, so good.
[07:06] <partin> high-freq, i get hits for libdvdread3, gxine and ogle.
[07:06] <orbin> synaptic has a nice log of actions taken. does apt-get log stuff too?
[07:07] <high-freq> Badm4n: should be in /etc/apache  not /etc/apache2
[07:07] <|Sivik|> !flash
[07:07] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:07] <Badm4n> high-freq : i'm on server mode
[07:07] <Managu> pyrotic: also remove the cups wrapper; "sudo apt-get remove cupswrapper210c"
[07:07] <Madpilot> Bilford, by selling it to folks who don't want to do all this setup, or by providing tech support
[07:07] <Managu> pyrotic: one sec
[07:07] <high-freq> oh
[07:07] <TheCarl> does anybody know how to register a nick/channel on this server?
[07:07] <pyrotic> couldn't find cupswrapper210c
[07:07] <Bilford> maddler- The software writers?
[07:07] <high-freq> u can't do rm -r /etc/apache/
[07:07] <Blue89> Bilford, or by using linux to power a service, like web hosting afaik
[07:07] <Managu> pyrotic: once that's done (oops, my mistake), let's purge everything from them too
[07:08] <high-freq> TheCarl: try /msg nickserv help  or /msg chanserv help
[07:08] <Badm4n> high-freq : i mean all apache ( no include apache2 ) include the /etc /usr/share
[07:08] <TheCarl> thanks
[07:08] <Badm4n> so i want to locate itu
[07:08] <Badm4n> so i want to locate it
[07:08] <Managu> pyrotic: repeat the last 3 sudo commands with a "--purge" before the remove
[07:08] <Managu> pyrotic: they may complain about already having been removed; if so, don't worry bout it
[07:08] <pyrotic> managu but it didn't remove cupswrapper210c because it couldn't find it.. ?
[07:08] <Managu> pyrotic: hrmm, ok
[07:08] <high-freq> Badm4n: hmm...lemme check aptitude real quick
[07:09] <Managu> pyrotic: "apt-cache search cupswrapper"
[07:09] <pyrotic> cupswrappermfc210c - Brother MFC210C CUPS wrapper driver
[07:09] <pyrotic> cupswrappermfc420cn - Brother MFC420CN CUPS wrapper driver
[07:09] <Managu> pyrotic: looks like I copied the name wrong -- it's just the package name from the howto without the version information
[07:10] <Managu> pyrotic: yup.  "sudo apt-get --purge remove <name>" for each of those
[07:10] <h3h_timo> !kopete
[07:10] <ubotu> Kopete is the KDE IM, supporting AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, IRC, Gadu-Gadu, Novell GroupWise Messenger, and more. See http://kopete.kde.org
[07:10] <h3h_timo> can you run kopete in the gnome windows environment?
[07:10] <hyperstream> how does one go about emulation of a dvd reader drive? to bypass a cd check in cedega(i only have a cdrom therefore i made a .mdf(iso))
[07:10] <|Sivik|> anyone else having problems with the flash server currently?
[07:10] <high-freq> Badm4n: hmm...aptitude autoclean  ???
[07:10] <Bilford> Apostle^- did you successfully download and play anything
[07:11] <high-freq> Badm4n: hmm  aptitude purge   shoulda done the job
[07:11] <Apostle^> Bilford, i downloaded a song but it woldn't play
[07:11] <Managu> pyrotic: now, it's interesting that you've got packages for the 420C/N from somewhere
[07:11] <NateBHere> Hello
[07:11] <Bilford> Apostle^ flac?
[07:11] <orbin> h3h_timo: yes, you can run any kde apps in gnome and vice versa
[07:11] <Apostle^> Bilford, yea
[07:11] <Bilford> Apostle^- maybe try  XMMS
[07:11] <NateBHere> Man I'm learning all kinds of stuff first time I've use IRC
[07:11] <orbin> h3h_timo: apt will grab the kde libraries it needs for you
[07:11] <pyrotic> managu because I tried to install it before.. and failed miserably.
[07:11] <Apostle^> Bilford, amarok plays them
[07:11] <h3h_timo> thank you i was wondering about that for a while... thanks
[07:12] <h3h_timo> i just installed ubuntu yesterday
[07:12] <h3h_timo> and im already in love with it
[07:12] <pyrotic> managu ok, they are all removed and purged
[07:12] <Badm4n> same
[07:12] <Badm4n> high-freq : still exist
[07:12] <high-freq> hmm
[07:12] <Badm4n> root@safana:/home/mirza/public_html# /etc/apache
[07:12] <Badm4n> apache/  apache2/
[07:12] <high-freq> too bad u can't get into synaptic ;(
[07:12] <orbin> h3h_timo: awesome welcome
[07:12] <Managu> pyrotic: a lot of this is guesswork on my part.  I'm looking over the web sites you pointed at.  Give me a sec
[07:12] <pyrotic> managu Alright.
[07:13] <high-freq> Badm4n: well if someoen doesn't know how to get apt to auto clean the files that it installs...u know removing everything it installs....then i'm not sure...either that or just rm -r  them ;(
[07:13] <pyrotic> managu if it helps, it does recognize the right printer in the lsusb
[07:13] <Badm4n> yeah i install my ubuntu using server mode
[07:13] <Badm4n> high-freq okie
[07:13] <Badm4n> one more pls
[07:13] <NateBHere> Can any one help me I am trying to run a "Ubuntu Live" Install on my Compaq Presario v5000.  It keeps bailing out when it gets to the display adapter "X Server"
[07:13] <Badm4n> postfix now
[07:13] <Managu> pyrotic: that's good.  At least your computer can see the printer now
[07:13] <h3h_timo> orbin, i was also interested in what programs you would recommend that i should make sure i have installed, if there are any
[07:14] <pyrotic> managu but.. when I tried to rmove the 420cn driver, i got an error.
[07:14] <NateBHere> If I am folloeing the logic I think it has something to due with the wide screen montitor
[07:14] <Managu> pyrotic: oh?  pastebin the error?
[07:14] <high-freq> sorry bud
[07:14] <yorkdan> When i change a file in the webmin directory so i can use webmin it wont let me save it. how can i save a file with admin rights as im just editing some stuff in it?
[07:14] <pyrotic> managu one sec, pating
[07:14] <orbin> h3h_timo: depends what you do..i like gqview as an image manager....and frozen bubble is great for killing time :)
[07:14] <pyrotic> managu pasting*
[07:14] <Badm4n> posfix problem : i got bounce mail how to cancel it... every time i start postfix the old proses still exist even i apt-get remove postfix then apt-get install postfix
[07:15] <pyrotic> managu - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13972 -
[07:15] <linux_galore> Badm4n: installing postfix doesn remove the config files thats why
[07:15] <Bilford> yorkdan, maybe run it with  sudo webmin
[07:15] <orbin> h3h_timo: ummm, i also use thunderbird as a mail client over evo
[07:15] <h3h_timo> well... i would like to get intro programming and learning alot more about linux... and i watch movies and listen to music.. and i like to have tools for downloading.. right now im finishing installing azureus
[07:15] <yorkdan> ok thanks
[07:15] <Badm4n> how to remove my old process ? linux_galore
[07:15] <h3h_timo> yeah.. i think i installed that too
[07:16] <h3h_timo> can you uninstall evo?
[07:16] <linux_galore> Badm4n: remove the config files
[07:16] <linux_galore> Badm4n: usually under /etc
[07:16] <Managu> pyrotic: ok, let's clean that up first
[07:16] <orbin> h3h_timo: we'll find out...i'll do it right now :)
[07:17] <pyrotic> managu alright.. how to do so?
[07:17] <h3h_timo> orbin, okay you tell me if you can do it
[07:17] <linux_galore> Badm4n: are you trying to stop postfix or installa a new version ??
[07:17] <Managu> pyrotic: first thing, there seem to be some odd links to brother printer libraries.  LEt's get rid of them.  "sudo rm -f /usr/lib/libbrcompij2.so*"
[07:17] <orbin> h3h_timo: removed. dunno if it was safe to do so though (maybe something depended on it)
[07:17] <orbin> h3h_timo: but apt didn't warn me so i assume it was ok
[07:18] <Badm4n> linux_galore : to make my postfix refresh... no old proses no etc etc
[07:18] <orbin> h3h_timo: anyway, i got 35mb back :)
[07:18] <h3h_timo> how'd ya do it?
[07:18] <Wirwing> i have a big problem here :S
[07:18] <linux_galore> Badm4n: restarting posfix does that
[07:18] <orbin> h3h_timo: sudo apt-get remove evolution
[07:18] <orbin> h3h_timo: you can do it via synaptic if you wish
[07:18] <NateBHere> Having trouble installing Ubuntu Live, some sort of issue with X Server.  Running in Compaq Presario V5000.
[07:18] <h3h_timo> k thanks.. ummm can you explain about the whole apt-get thing
[07:18] <h3h_timo> what is it?
[07:18] <Managu> pyrotic: after that, we want apt go get rid of the 420cn package.  We had to force the other package in, so we'll have to force this one out.
[07:19] <Badm4n> linux_galore : nope ... my postfix still bouncing
[07:19] <Wirwing> i try to open any video file, but i cant see anything only lisnte the audiotrack..... :S
[07:19] <pyrotic> managu k, removed.
[07:19] <h3h_timo> orbin, can i pm you so i dont have to overlook all this other text?
[07:19] <Screevo> anyone here good with route or iptables?
[07:19] <orbin> h3h_timo: sure
[07:19] <linux_galore> Badm4n: /etc/init.d/postfix restart
[07:19] <Wirwing> i have installed Totem, LVC, MPlayer, but it doesnt work
[07:19] <pyrotic> managu ok, how to remove it is the question.
[07:20] <Managu> pyrotic: "sudo dpkg --purge --force-all mfc420cnlpr"
[07:20] <linux_galore> Badm4n: then you have a config problem
[07:20] <orbin> Wirwing: totem-xine + w32 codecs?
[07:20] <Wirwing> i only can hear the audio, but not see the video itself... :S
[07:20] <Badm4n> config ?
[07:20] <h3h_timo> guess i cant do that
[07:20] <Badm4n> i got bounce cause i sent to large files that rejected from isp
[07:20] <Badm4n> :(
[07:20] <orbin> h3h_timo: are you regged and id'ed?
[07:20] <linux_galore> Badm4n: yes postfix is a complex service you have to tell it what you want it to do
[07:20] <h3h_timo> nope
[07:20] <h3h_timo> orbin, how do you register?
[07:20] <Managu> pyrotic: dpkg should complain (these things always complain when forced), but it should do it