[03:35] <ubotu> phpmyadmin: set of PHP-scripts to administrate MySQL over the WWW. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:2.8.2-0.2 (edgy), package size 3522 kB, installed size 13752 kB
[03:35] <xabbott> ShakaGoldSaint: why they don't let you use the normal live cd for text installs...i dont know. :(
[03:36] <krut> Anyone know how I can make it so snes9x will use the dpad on my controller rather than the joystick?
[03:36] <ADD> has anyone ever installed a Logitech Quickcam Orbit on Ubuntu Dapper.......help, please.
[03:36] <lambo4jos> agent: what kind of configuring do i need to do to get this up and running?
[03:36] <lambo4jos> or does it run after install
[03:37] <agent> lambo4jos: none... just make sure mysql and apache are running then localhost/phpmyadmin in your browser
[03:37] <jevangelo> how would i delete directories with a TON of subdirectories without having to spend 3 hours letting it recursevly remove the subdirectories and files
[03:37] <lordbelial> I'm looking for help with a draw tablet to use it with gimp... Anybody have idea.
[03:37] <agent> lambo4jos: it may complain about blowfish but i noticed that doing a refresh takes care of that
[03:37] <ADD> help, please.  i'm a newbie
[03:37] <Moosejaw> can someone help me with an error i am getting running an applet in gdesklets?
[03:37] <jevangelo> everything i try says "blah is a directory"
[03:37] <agent> jevangelo: just remove the top direcotry
[03:38] <bruenig> !webcam | ADD
[03:38] <ubotu> ADD: webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:38] <ADD> yes....thanks.  i'll try that
[03:38] <jevangelo> iv tried to just rm /directory
[03:38] <agent> !ask | Moosejaw
[03:38] <ubotu> Moosejaw: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:38] <jevangelo> but it wont do it
[03:38] <bruenig> !thanks | ADD
[03:38] <Moosejaw> heeh
[03:38] <ubotu> ADD: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[03:38] <Moosejaw> but of course...
[03:38] <lordbelial> Ubotu: Can you help me with my ask?
[03:38] <lambo4jos> agent: i haven't installed apache cause I havent' needed it yet, but does this require configuring to work with mysql?
[03:38] <Moosejaw> here is the error I am getting:
[03:38] <Moosejaw> name 'ico3' is not defined
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Can you help me with my ask? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <Moosejaw> /home/graeme/.gdesklets/Displays/OSXCornerXMMS/osxcornerxmms-bottomright.display
[03:38] <Moosejaw> >   1 ico3.setscale = (float(isc/100+1), 0.1)
[03:38] <ADD> lol....i'll keep that in mind
[03:39] <Moosejaw> but its calling it a runtime error
[03:39] <agent> lambo4jos: what are you trying to use mysql for?
[03:39] <Jordan_U> jevangelo: You need to run: rm -R for directories
[03:39] <lordbelial> Ubotu: Can u help me wiht my ask?
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Can u help me wiht my ask? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <LjL> Ubotu, tell lordbelial about bot | lordbelial, see the private message from Ubotu
[03:39] <LjL> lordbelial, you aren't a bot yourself, are you?
[03:39] <lordbelial> OK I'm trying
[03:39] <ShakaGoldSaint> xabbott, thanks, i'll give it a try
[03:40] <agent> jevangelo: so what is the problem with doing rm?
[03:40] <xabbott> ShakaGoldSaint: ok, good luck
[03:40] <lordbelial> OK sorry
[03:40] <lordbelial> :S
[03:40] <lambo4jos> ruby on rails on an ubuntu desktop at home and running webrick is all i need.  then i deploy into production
[03:40] <n0deal> is anyone else here running a dual monitor setup on their ubuntu box?
[03:40] <jevangelo> agent, there are too many directories to to -r, it takes about 5 hours to clear out these directories
[03:41] <jevangelo> i was wondering if there was something faster
[03:41] <bruenig> jevangelo, strong magnets will do it
[03:41] <kameron> paste
[03:41] <kameron> !paste
[03:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:41] <jevangelo> haha
[03:41] <agent> jevangelo: format! ;)
[03:41] <jevangelo> not gonna work.....
[03:41] <jevangelo> its a production squid box
[03:41] <jevangelo> and /var is mounted on it
[03:42] <lambo4jos> agent: >	ruby on rails on an ubuntu desktop at home and running webrick is all i need.
[03:42] <agent> jevangelo: rm is as fast as you will get because rm does not even remove any files just "unlinks" them - if its taking a long time you picked the wrong filesystem :)
[03:42] <jevangelo> ah
[03:42] <agent> lambo4jos: so you want ruby + mysql, right?
[03:42] <lambo4jos> agent: yes and i already have that working, but would like a gui tool to administer mysql
[03:43] <shadwan> Hey there. Anyone know how to use DOSBox?
[03:43] <agent> jevangelo: there is no such thing as a real remove :) there is a wipe program that wipes your files/directories but that would take you days if you say rm takes hours
[03:43] <jevangelo> yea
[03:43] <jevangelo> i need to rethink my strategie
[03:44] <agent> lambo4jos: never used a gui for mysql... have you looked at www.mysql.com? there is a community section with program names... mysql-query is not what you want
[03:44] <lambo4jos> agent: i have also tried to install mysql-query-browser from source and couldn't get it working
[03:44] <jevangelo> i run sarg for squid, and all this creating and removing these huge directory structures for the sarg reports has made my /var reiser filesystem unhealthy
[03:45] <agent> lambo4jos: mysql-query-browser is not what you want... it just shows you queries from what i remember - and it works because i tried it a few days ago
[03:45] <agent> lambo4jos: i tried it from the official ubuntu repositories (no sources)
[03:46] <agent> jevangelo: it not a big deal, just start the rm when you go to sleep and have it shutdown after rm is finished
[03:47] <agent> jevangelo: sudo -i to become 'root' and then run: rm mydirectory/ -rf && shutdown -h now
[03:47] <jevangelo> haha
[03:47] <lambo4jos> agent: mine works fine too from 'sudo apt-get install mysql-query-browser'.  i can create a table but when I try to edit a table it shuts down.  no idea why.  any ideas?
[03:47] <jevangelo> on a production squid box for a company?
[03:47] <ZoFreX> is there a DVD version of 6.10? I only have dvd recordables so I don't want to waste one with a 600mb image :P
[03:47] <agent> jevangelo: did not see the "production" or the "company" part :D
[03:47] <jevangelo> ah
[03:48] <agent> jevangelo: then delete them little by little over a few days... and next time don't have it make so many logs or whatever :)
[03:48] <[Ithaycu] > Defend: Finally got X working again. beryl was/is causing problems for me. I had to delete the xsession file
[03:48] <agent> lambo4jos: no ideas, sorry... run it from the terminal and see the output it gives when crashing
[03:48] <jevangelo> yea, sarg can really screw things up if you let it pile data over a few months
[03:48] <shadwan> Anyone know how to use DOSBox? I've installed it and I have Theme Park (downloaded via Bittorrent). I have no idea how to run/install Theme Park. The DOSBox irc channel is silent. Any help?
[03:49] <rc-1> hi, i had a crash and cntrl alt backspace and alt f1 did nothing, so i hard rebooted.  now it says home/drmc is being ignored when i log in, and it didnt mount my external HD automatically, how do i fix?
[03:49] <agent> jevangelo: you should have added a cron job to clean it up
[03:49] <jevangelo> im going to make a rotate script, and do some reiserfs tools on the volume
[03:49] <agent> jevangelo: so your going to mess with the filesystem? and your telling me that rm'ing the whole dir is bad?
[03:50] <jevangelo> well, maybee i wont do the reiserfs tools
[03:50] <jevangelo> bad idea
[03:50] <agent> lol
[03:50] <rc-1> also how do i mount the external hd?
[03:53] <agent> rc-1: if you want to do it the hard way, find out the /dev entry and do: sudo mount /dev/hdX /your/mount/folder
[03:54] <rc-1> agent thanks
[03:55] <agent> rc-1: you are welcome... but you should know that it usually just takes connecting the external usb drive and after a few seconds its mounted automatically
[03:55] <krut> what's the name of the program that generates deb packages
[03:55] <agent> krut: there are a few of them
[03:56] <agent> krut: i use debuild
[03:56] <eltech> how can one whos on 6.06 upgrade to 6.10?
[03:57] <LjL> !checkinstall
[03:57] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[03:57] <LjL> i suspect he was thinking
[03:57] <itsmabus> How do I add rules in a situation like say, I don't trust this host? I don't want it to be able to initiate connections with any ip on the network except for the gateway
[03:57] <itsmabus> I have other potentially untrusted users who will be using this machine, I don't want to let traffic come out of there really.
[03:58] <missingxtension> does anyone know how to remove kernels from the updates? i have two pcs and i dont need upgraded generic kernels
[03:58] <shadwan> Repeat (last try): Anyone know how to use DOSBox? I've installed it and I have Theme Park (downloaded via Bittorrent). I have no idea how to run/install Theme Park. The DOSBox irc channel is silent. Any help?  ;)
[03:58] <delaney> anyone aware of a way to fix mplayer in edgy so that when u open a video it doesnt give you the "Requested audio codec family [mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not available. Enable it at compilation" error.. when i didnt compile it to begine with.  I installed it from the repos...??
[03:58] <itsmabus> !mp3
[03:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:59] <LjL> agent: well, that wasn't what i meant, but you shouldn't take that sort of thing for granted anyway ;P
[03:59] <itsmabus> delaney: ^
[03:59] <lovloss> Ubuntu really needs to offer a decent C/C++ IDE in the packages :/
[03:59] <agent> shadwan: have you tried their webpage? i have no idea what dosbox is
[03:59] <itsmabus> You have to do quite a bit of stuff to get ubuntu working like most people want it to. That's because they can't include things like java and mp3 support on the cd for licensing reasons.
[03:59] <delaney> itsmabus, if thats for me.. all my mp3s work in every other application and audio works fine in the movies i just dont want to get the window error.  First i get an error about -vo  then when i switch it to xv/x11 i get the mp3 error
[03:59] <agent> lovloss: its called vim ;)
[03:59] <lovloss> agent: vim?
[04:00] <delaney> itsmabus, ive always had mp3 working.  and ive always had mplayer working perfectly its only since the edgy upgrade that ive had this issue
[04:00] <agent> lovloss: it was a joke (sort of) -- its a VERY instane and powerful editor
[04:00] <shadwan> agent: cheers, i have. it looks pretty clear but i can't understand it. it seems windows orientated. but it is (apparently) linux too.
[04:00] <itsmabus> delaney: Maybe you're missing edgy plugins. I guess I jumped in on that question late.
[04:00] <missingxtension> delaney: you need automatix its ascripts that install most basic functions that are missing
[04:00] <lovloss> agent: Well i need something. Anjunta keeps asking me to go get 'glib', and eclipse crashes every time i boot up
[04:01] <vanberge> lambo4jos, i can help you there... it is web based, would that help?
[04:01] <lovloss> i dunno how complicated it can be to make a program that has a 'compile and run' button. :P
[04:01] <agent> lovloss: you have to realize that a lot hackers dont use ide's tis why they are not really many of them - you would be surprised at how much they keep you from doing your work faster
[04:01] <agent> lovloss: why when you can just write a one line script to do that for you? :)
[04:01] <lovloss> agent: except that you have to issue two commands to test a source. first, compile, then run
[04:01] <rc-1> agent, eerg so confused sorry :( nothings showing up in /media, or the computer folder, how do i know what its called to mount it?
[04:02] <agent> lovloss: and you have the advantage of using whatever program you want
[04:02] <lovloss> agent: how can that be done in one line?
[04:02] <missingxtension> delaney: it install all media codecs necesary for normal enjoyable use
[04:02] <lovloss> because i knew, i run over and over ...
[04:02] <lovloss> *im new
[04:02] <agent> lovloss: depends on what you use... if you use make then: configure && make && make install && binaryfile_that_you_get
[04:02] <delaney> missingxtension, but all codecs ARE installed.  every video format.. every mp3.. flac.. wahtever
[04:03] <delaney> anything i throw at it works in EVERY application
[04:03] <delaney> but mplayer
[04:03] <lovloss> agent: what about libraries?
[04:03] <delaney> just seems odd.
[04:03] <delaney> seeing as how it was always sufficient before (since hoary)
[04:03] <lovloss> agent: is iostream, strings, and such already built in?
[04:03] <tuna-fish-> shadwan: search for dosboxgui or dbgui
[04:03] <missingxtension> did u install the mplayer plug ins?
[04:03] <shadwan> tuna-fish-: i will. cheers.
[04:03] <agent> lovloss: if you are including them then they should be compiled with make... if not then your not using make correctly... or if you are compiling libraries that should not be included :P
[04:04] <nu> Which file do i edit for startup programs? i added gDesklets once but now i don't remember how to take it off
[04:04] <missingxtension> i dont use mplayer unfortunately, have u tried listen? its comparable to windows media
[04:04] <lovloss> agent: if i #include <library>, where does it load the library from? is there a namespace std somewhere?
[04:04] <agent> lovloss: you use make to compile and install a program from source code - if it does not work then you are not using make properly
[04:04] <delaney> missingxtension, mplayer and firefox mplayer..   im unable to find any other plugisn for mplayer in the repos ive got
[04:04] <delaney> and im almost positive i never needed anything else before..
[04:04] <tuna-fish-> shadwan: it's a tcl script I use for playing old games, mainly colonization and master of magic. It's not issue-free, but is easier to get working than a genuine dos install with sound and enough low ram...
[04:05] <delaney> though i tend to be forgetful so maybe im missing something
[04:05] <lovloss> agent: Im just curious if I have to go *download* libraries like iostream and stdio
[04:05] <agent> lovloss: i cant answer that question because i dont hack c++.... but make is used for just about every language... open up almost any source deb file and you will see make scripts :)
[04:05] <trappist> delaney: check the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[04:05] <missingxtension> i c well thats the best shot i had, mplayer is good in windows but in linux it just sucks
[04:05] <trappist> !restricted | delaney
[04:05] <ubotu> delaney: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:05] <rc-1> how do i even know if its recognizing the external hd device?
[04:05] <shadwan> tuna-fish-: thanks. i'm looking right now.
[04:05] <lovloss> does anyone else know about that then? gcc / make come with all the basic libraries, or odo i have to download them?
[04:05] <trappist> missingxtension: I use mplayer for everything except dvds - it really doesn't suck
[04:06] <agent> rc-1: well, is it usb?
[04:06] <rc-1> agent, yup
[04:06] <agent> rc-1: type: lsusb
[04:06] <missingxtension> well like i said i like it but not in linux for windows i love mplayer and vlc but in linux mplayer doest cut it
[04:06] <Born_In_Xixax> lovloss: did you get the 'build-essential' package?
[04:06] <agent> rc-1: that is a lowercase L not an uppercase i just in case your font makes it confusing
[04:06] <agent> rc-1: lsusb will show all deviced connected
[04:07] <lovloss> Born_In_Xixax: yes... thats what it is? :D
[04:07] <Born_In_Xixax> yes, that includes all your basic compilation stuff
[04:07] <lovloss> :D~
[04:07] <missingxtension> does anyone know how to remove kernels from the updates? i have two pcs and i dont need upgraded generic kernels
[04:07] <LjL> !pinning | missingxtension
[04:07] <ubotu> missingxtension: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[04:07] <rc-1> 046d:c221 Logitech, Inc.,ID 046d:c223 Logitech, Inc.,ID 046d:c223 Logitech, Inc., and also my mouse .... hmmm
[04:07] <missingxtension> ohh
[04:07] <missingxtension> danke
[04:07] <lovloss> ok so say i make a file called hi.cpp on the desktop and i want to compile it. configure && make && make install && hi.cpp   ??
[04:08] <lovloss> hmm that sounds wrong
[04:08] <delaney> ive installed every mp3 package from restricted formats for good measure
[04:08] <agent> rc-1: make sure you plug in that hard drive to a power outlet (if it requires it) - if the hard drive does not use external power, make sure you are connecting it to a usb port that supports powering devices (most usually do not)
[04:08] <delaney> i guess im just gonna have to deal with it or compile from source
[04:09] <bruenig> lovloss, assuming hi.cpp has the ability to compile, you would run something like ./hi.cpp && make && make install
[04:09] <shiv> Is there any program like shutdown timer?
[04:09] <LjL> lovloss: err... yeah it's quite wrong :-) "configure" and "make" are meaningful only when a build system was used with the program
[04:09] <tuna-fish-> lovloss: only if you have plenty of scripts ready that tell where to install and how to configure and make.
[04:09] <tjb891> i have to convert some .avi to mpeg what program should i use
[04:09] <Flannel> lovloss: if it's just a single file, there's no configuring, or making.  You'll just be invoking gcc manually
[04:09] <agent> lovloss: it is :) make and configure are for "advanced" usage
[04:09] <lovloss> wait im confused :( How do you make a file buildable?
[04:09] <LjL> lovloss: if it's just a test program of yours, type "g++ hi.cpp", and you'll get an executable (called a.out by default) in the same directory
[04:09] <LjL> lovloss: (if there are no errors, of course)
[04:10] <lovloss> oh
[04:10] <agent> :D
[04:10] <delaney> the odd thing is when i open a video file in firefox it works flawlessly and i dont get the error
[04:10] <LjL> lovloss, you just call the C/C++ compiler and give it the file as a parameter
[04:10] <ThePub> When trying to play a DVD in totem movie player I get the error "Totem was not able to play this disk".  The menu option to play the disk is showing the 'right' DVD player name from gnome, which successfully mounts normal CDs, but won't play a DVD when present in the drive.
[04:10] <agent> ThePub: totem won't play encrypted dvd's by default
[04:10] <lovloss> LjL: a.out... ok, what do i type to test it
[04:11] <agent> ThePub: do you have codecs installed?
[04:11] <LjL> lovloss: ./a.out
[04:11] <ThePub> agent: right, so I ran through the encrypted section of restricted formats.
[04:11] <lovloss> It worked ^_^
[04:11] <ThePub> agent: same issue O.o
[04:11] <lovloss> *hugs LjL*  this will be fun
[04:11] <ThePub> agent: man, I look like a fool.. I guess three reboots is a charm, lol.
[04:11] <shadwan> tuna-fish-: thanks for the help. it's still gibberish to me. i'll try again tomorrow when i'm sober and rested. i just want to see sprites throwing up from too much ice-cream in Theme Park. Cheers.
[04:11] <Red-Sox> Is it possible to make certain apps start when I log in?
[04:12] <agent> ThePub: well, it may be that totem won't play them regardless... not sure exactly.... i know vlc works great though
[04:12] <lovloss> I need to figure out how to do a gnome window so i can see my stuff ina little box :)
[04:12] <eviltwin> anyone know where I can set the default theme for new users?
[04:12] <tuna-fish-> shadwan: just install and run it
[04:12] <Born_In_Xixax> Red-Sox: yes, via the Sessions applet under System|Preferences
[04:12] <ThePub> agent: it should play them, and apparently it does.  lol.. idk why it wasn't doing it before, I was only getting that error.  I restarted again and now it's working.
[04:12] <nu-> is there a dreamweaver like program for linux?  (dont need designer mode)
[04:12] <tuna-fish-> it works best if you throw random values at it until everything works smooth :)
[04:12] <ThePub> agent: a little "magic" in the pipeline somewhere I guess
[04:13] <Flannel> nu-: check out nvu
[04:13] <agent> ThePub: my guess would be that you did not restart totem after you installed dvd support
[04:13] <nu-> Flannel: thanks
[04:13] <Flannel> nu-: wait, designer mode is the code? or the WYSIWYMG?
[04:13] <shadwan> tuna-fish-: it's running. i see the screenshot of someone running discworld, but i can't find the appropriate file in my Theme Park folder to get it doing anything...
[04:13] <ThePub> agent: it was never started when installing anything :)
[04:13] <agent> ThePub: or.... you thought you restarted it but you did not :)
[04:13] <ThePub> agent: so you're guess would be wrong :)
[04:13] <agent> ThePub: then i dont know
[04:13] <sysdoc> nu-, Quanta is more like DW
[04:13] <lovloss> NVU annoys me a bit, i wish they'd make a better one. It doesnt even have an "embed video" option. you have to do it manually.
[04:13] <lovloss> i cant wait to be a dev :P
[04:14] <nu-> sysdoc: ill look at both. thanks
[04:14] <tuna-fish-> thepub: so you sure you have libdvdcss2 installed?
[04:14] <tuna-fish-> shadwan: it's the .bat or .exe
[04:14] <rc-1> agent, tripple checked all of the connections, nothing :\
[04:14] <Red-Sox> No one knows how to make a program start at startup??
[04:14] <lovloss> Quanta is for KDE :(
[04:14] <lovloss> will it run in gnome tho?
[04:14] <lambo4jos> vanberge: yes that would help
[04:14] <agent> rc-1: check using lshw
[04:14] <Born_In_Xixax> Red-Sox: yes, via the Sessions applet under System|Preferences
[04:14] <burner> hey, what can someone suggest to capture a screencast that is available via apt?  I tried byzanz via command line to no avail
[04:15] <sysdoc> Quanta running in Gnome here, lol
[04:15] <nu-> so quanta will run on gnome?
[04:15] <Red-Sox> Born_In_Xixax: thanks
[04:15] <vanberge> lambo4jos, ok... let me see what i use
[04:15] <szekely> does anyone have any ideas why my audio cds show up as "CD-Rom Disc"?
[04:15] <lovloss> hmm... i couldnt get kdevelope to work on gnome
[04:15] <JB2_> Does the Ubuntu CD boot on intel Macs?
[04:16] <Born_In_Xixax> you can create different sessions with different sets of startup apps, if you like
[04:16] <tuna-fish-> thePub: note that libdvdcss2 is illegal in some countries. Can be found from Penguin Liberation Army repos
[04:16] <ThePub> I've started using scribes more as an editing environment.
[04:16] <lovloss> Oh, does anyone know where i can go to find source to create my programs in a little gnome window? :)
[04:16] <vanberge> lambo4jos,  phpMyAdmin is what i use....
[04:16] <Red-Sox> Born_In_Xixax: How do I tell it which workspace I want it to start in?
[04:16] <lovloss> that is, to execute them in one
[04:16] <vanberge> its a web app... www.yoursite.com/phpmyadmin
[04:16] <ThePub> tuna-fish-: it's all working now, just took a couple of restarts.  Agent was probably right to a degree that I hadn't found all the zombie processes from earlier attempts.
[04:16] <Born_In_Xixax> at the login screen, click on Options
[04:16] <agent> lovloss: you can use just about any kde program in gnome and vice-versa... the problem being is that 1) you have to download kde libs and 2) you have to load them when running the program - they will be loaded themselves of course, but the problem is resource hogging :)
[04:16] <Born_In_Xixax> you can choose a session from there
[04:17] <lovloss> agent: ahhh i see.... good to know
[04:17] <lovloss> i suppose ill need the kde libraries then. might as well have them
[04:17] <ski-worklap> http://bandcamp.tv/linux-demotivators/
[04:17] <ThePub> nu-: if there's a gtksource highlighter for your language, you might want to check out scribes if you can work with just a solid editor :)
[04:18] <agent> ThePub: easy way to fix that is: 1) ps -ef | grep <your program binary name> and 2) pkill <your program binary name>
[04:18] <nu-> ThePub: i can. but i want the convenience of my files listed on the right side(like in dreameaver).
[04:18] <agent> ThePub: #1 searches for <your program binary name> and #2 kills it :)
[04:18] <nu-> so thats pretty much all im looking for
[04:18] <lexi__> hi @all. just installed latest kernel security updates for edgy. at the end apt installl called update-initramfs what caused these error-messages http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/5945/ . the resulting initrd.img is not bootable.  help is very much appreciated :)
[04:18] <shadwan> tuna-fish-: i've tried all the .exe's. i have TP.EXE, SETUP.EXE, and DOS4GW.EXE, and all come up with errors when i click on Run DosBox.
[04:18] <ThePub> nu-: so open a list-mode nautilus window next to it :D
[04:18] <lambo4jos> vanberge: i am running ruby on rails mysql and webrick
[04:18] <rc-1> agent, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37107/
[04:18] <h0ndaracer3> hey everyone am i welcome here
[04:19] <lambo4jos> vanberge: how can i get phpmyadmin to work with this setup
[04:19] <ThePub> h0ndaracer3: go away?  ^_^
[04:19] <nu-> ThePub: haha but i like do double-click the file and have it open in a new tab in the program, etc
[04:19] <h0ndaracer3> why
[04:19] <tuna-fish-> shadwan: TP.EXE, most likely, but what errors?
[04:19] <rc-1> agent, theres also a light on even when its off, not sure what that means
[04:20] <factboy818181> hi
[04:20] <factboy818181> is there a file comparer for ubuntu?
[04:20] <factboy818181> like WinMerge for windows?
[04:20] <nothlit> diff
[04:20] <nothlit> !diff
[04:20] <trurl> Hi
[04:20] <ubotu> diff: File comparison utilities. In component main, is required. Version 2.8.1-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 748 kB
[04:20] <lambo4jos> vanberge: oh my bad.  yoursite.com/phpmyadmin is a phpmyadmin host
[04:20] <nothlit> !patch
[04:20] <ubotu> patch: Apply a diff file to an original. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.9-4 (edgy), package size 93 kB, installed size 188 kB
[04:20] <tjb891> does anyone here know a good GUI for ffmpeg?
[04:20] <factboy818181> ok
[04:21] <factboy818181> thanks
[04:21] <vanberge> lambo4jos, i'm not familiar with those... i use apache.  :-(    did you try #mysql?
[04:21] <shadwan> tuna-fish-: sound devices - ALSA, MIDI, ALSA no device type things, and not able to load config files. it runs dosbox, but all i have is a command line with z:.
[04:21] <tuna-fish-> weird
[04:21] <agent> rc-1: i don't know what to tell you.... that is very strange... make sure your hard drive is powered on is the only thing i can suggest... you should hear the hard drive spin up once you plug in the power even if its disconnected from the usb port
[04:21] <shadwan> tuna-fish-: the errors come up when i close dosbox
[04:21] <h0ndaracer3> heyim bak
[04:22] <rc-1> agent, ah thanks for help! im sure its powered though cuase when i turn it on i hear the HD in it starting up
[04:22] <lovloss> no one knows where i can get code to make a gnome app? :D
[04:22] <rc-1> agent, if the file system was corrupt would it do this?
[04:23] <agent> lovloss: tons of places... for c++ i don't know but you can probably look at www.gnome.org in their developers section
[04:23] <ThePub> on the location bar in nautilus, is it possible to remove the "view as ..." drop down and zoom settings?
[04:23] <CowEdgy> how do i install icons theme?
[04:23] <CowEdgy> it's in a tarball format
[04:23] <CowEdgy> :(
[04:23] <agent> rc-1: probably not - it may not mount it, yes, but it should still be listed in lsusb
[04:24] <ThePub> if nautilus was just a little more like how konq looks the gnome desktop would be a really good setup
[04:24] <agent> ThePub: i dont think that is a normal option, you can try looking in gconf-editor
[04:24] <agent> ThePub: if it is not in gconf-editor then the option does not exist.. you would have to edit the source code and compile it (way too much work of course)
[04:24] <ThePub> agent: yeah, been all through those settings.  of course, holding this back too, is the fact that you cannot configure the toolbars in nautilus.. they are what they are.
[04:24] <vanberge> does anybody know of any software that can take a screen 'video' instead of a screen 'shot' ?  :-)
[04:25] <agent> ThePub: welcome to gnome :)
[04:25] <nu-> i guess nvu doesn't support php highliting?
[04:25] <agent> vanberge: xvidcap
[04:25] <ThePub> agent: hehe, nautilus always was the stickler for me with gnome.  ever since forever :)
[04:26] <capi_> Azureus doesn't gets a NAT error for regular users. How can I allow normal users to bind to a port( I'm not understanding why I can't normally )
[04:26] <nothlit> pcmanfm is nice
[04:26] <agent> CowEdgy: not sure... check out gnome-look.org they give instructions... it may be just a drag-drop procedure or you may have to extract the tarball
[04:26] <burner> I think it'd be neat if nautilus had "Finder's" new browsing ability in OS X
[04:26] <CowEdgy> thanks agent
[04:26] <burner> nu-, nvu won't even open .php here
[04:26] <nothlit> !bluefish | burner
[04:26] <ubotu> bluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6-1 (edgy), package size 1568 kB, installed size 6728 kB
[04:26] <capi_> agent, for themes it's drag and drop.
[04:26] <nu-> =( any other suggestions then?
[04:26] <ThePub> burner: what's that do?  it'd be nice if you could drill down with it too.
[04:27] <nu-> burner: do you have any other suggestions?
[04:27] <burner> nu-, i use gedit
[04:27] <ThePub> nu-: bluefish supports php highlighting
[04:27] <burner> gedit or scite here
[04:28] <nu-> ThePub: thanks
[04:28] <capi_> nu-, emacs or vim or course ;)
[04:28] <nu-> burner: gedit doesn't have auto completion does it?
[04:28] <agent> capi_: try scribes
[04:28] <burner> nu-, check out "screem" too
[04:28] <ThePub> nu-: download and install eclipse and get the php ide? :)
[04:28] <nu-> guys lol hold on-- my goal is not to use a simple editor because lack of autocompletion and file tree listing consumes time
[04:29] <nu-> im going to try bluefish
[04:29] <agent> capi_: check the flash video showing features here: http://scribes.sourceforge.net/media_videos.html
[04:29] <ThePub> agent: scribes rocks :)
[04:29] <nu-> bluefish supports python too? this is gold
[04:30] <agent> nu-: actually, that depends on your skill level... i could never ever use an ide now - i would go crazy
[04:30] <capi_> agent, *shrugs* I like emacs. :\ PHPeclipse, and JEdit as well if you don't mind java
[04:30] <nothlit> Wow installing eclipse takes 372 mb and skipping 2 packages?
[04:30] <nu-> agent: having to type full paths ot my pictures and files, drives me crazy
[04:30] <agent> ThePub: yes it does rock... more than vim even
[04:31] <ThePub> nothlit: eclipse is an application framework with an IDE built on top of it.  There's more there than you consider at first blush.  :)
[04:31] <agent> nu-: you should not have to retype paths anyway... you use variables :)
[04:31] <nu-> in CSS, no such things
[04:31] <CowEdgy> how do i install themes? Install Theme in Theme Preferences says it's an invalid format.... what's the right format?
[04:31] <nu-> unless my css is a php but that is not always the case
[04:32] <nu-> but, if i use many images, thats a lot of paths ill have to type
[04:32] <capi_> agent, I'm pretty sure emacs kicks scribes ass on features and ease. Specially nice if you take the effort to get anti-aliasing for the GUI.
[04:32] <nothlit> ../images/image.png?
[04:32] <nu-> plus, the tiny colorcode table it opens up whenever i type *color:' is gold also
[04:33] <agent> nu-: there is a css editor just os you know with completion... i tried using it but i cant stand normal editors even if they have those fancy stuff (which is useless if you know how to code well in the first place)... the program is called cssed
[04:33] <nu-> agent: i'll pass. im trying screem now.
[04:33] <nu-> im just lazy and i like to type as little as possible
[04:33] <agent> capi_: i would disagree - i thought that too but being an "ex" vim user (developer of scribes is also long time ex-vim user)
[04:33] <ThePub> capi_: emacs is a feature, not filled with features :)  scribes doesn't worry about adding the kitchen sink, it's just a really fast, feature-useful text edtior.
[04:33] <rc-1> My external hard drive isn't showing up in lsusb, it worked just yesterday any ideas why? sounds like it's starting when i turn it on
[04:33] <agent> nu-: okay... use what works for you :)
[04:34] <nu-> ;]
[04:34] <agent> ok ok
[04:34] <agent> no emacs vs vim vs scribes flame war :)
[04:35] <ThePub> emacs is more like eclipse if you want to compare
[04:35] <capi_> lol, vim is great for CLI, though. emacs is more GUI, personally, but yeah, whatever works best for ya.
[04:35] <ThePub> it's an "environment"
[04:36] <capi_> or IDE.
[04:36] <nu-> god that is annoying
[04:36] <agent> or operating system
[04:36] <ThePub> well.. emacs really isn't an ide unless you're writing lisp
[04:36] <eltech> does the default networking tools to configure wireless and such support WEP 64/128 bit?
[04:36] <capi_> :P
[04:36] <ThePub> emacs + slime really can't be beat for lisp programming :)
[04:36] <capi_> Oh, yeah baby.
[04:36] <aL\away> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:37] <aL\away> i get this msg when i try to compile eggdrop
[04:37] <aL\away> how do i solve this
[04:37] <bimberi> aL\away: install build-essential
[04:37] <agent> is it possible to choose a column from the end of line in awk? as in awk '{print $2}' but have 2 be from the end of line not beginning?
[04:37] <bimberi> !info eggdrop
[04:37] <ubotu> eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.17-3 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[04:38] <eltech> whats a better application to manage wireless devices?
[04:38] <tirus> Upon attempting to install Ubuntu 6.10 the graphics scramble. This happens as soon as the live cd tries to load the GUI for the installer. I've got a geforce 7800 card, is this a known prob?
[04:38] <bimberi> aL\away: eggdrop is in ubuntu btw (^^^^)
[04:38] <aL\away> yea
[04:38] <aL\away> ubuntu
[04:38] <bimberi> !networkmanager | eltech
[04:38] <ubotu> eltech: networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[04:39] <nu-> Once i found my way to edit the startup programs and added gDesklets. Now i don't know how to take it off. any tips?
[04:39] <aL\away> do i have to install it with synaptic
[04:39] <capi_> tirus, 7950 does have the problem, but you might want to search the forums. I  remember seeing some problems when edgy first came out.
[04:39] <capi_> tirus, doesn't.
[04:39] <malt> whats a good simple smtp server?
[04:39] <aL\away> i m abit lost
[04:39] <malt> to work with phpbb forums to send out emails
[04:39] <aL\away> very new to linux
[04:39] <aL\away> sp ubuntu
[04:39] <bimberi> aL\away: yes, once you enable the universe repository ...
[04:39] <bimberi> !universe | aL\away
[04:39] <ubotu> aL\away: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:40] <shadwan> tuna-fish-: cheers anyway. i'll try again tomorrow.
[04:40] <ThePub> tirus: idk specifically about any issues with that card, but for my particular setup I have to edit the xorg.conf of the installer after the startup, before X loads or it'll do something similar
[04:40] <bimberi> malt: postfix
[04:40] <tirus> Thx, is there a way to force a strictly text-based install...or a guide on how to edit the xorg.conf as ThePub just mentioned?
[04:41] <HLM> !EasySource
[04:41] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[04:41] <bimberi> tirus: text-based install means getting the alternate CD
[04:41] <ThePub> tirus: or starting in single-user mode first on the cd.
[04:41] <tirus> I c
[04:41] <GigaClon> I wanna install FireFox 1.5
[04:41] <malt> bimberi postfix i just install and thats it?
[04:42] <malt> and it should work with phpbb and php nuke to send emails?
[04:42] <agent> nu-: in gnome just preferences -> sessions -> startup
[04:42] <nu-> agent: thanks
[04:42] <bimberi> malt: basically.  iirc it will allow local users/processes to send ootb
[04:42] <agent> omg... awk has NF variable...
[04:42] <malt> ootb?
[04:43] <bimberi> malt: out of the box  (sorry, i'm lazy :) )
[04:43] <aL\away> i didnt find it
[04:44] <aL\away> please advice me again
[04:44] <sn0wm4n> hi, I've just ran an update and all non-admin users stopped hearing sound
[04:44] <sn0wm4n> where can I add this privilege to them?
[04:44] <bimberi> aL\away: did you enable the universe repository - instructions via https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[04:44] <bimberi> ?
[04:45] <aL\away> no
[04:45] <aL\away> i didnt
[04:45] <bimberi> sn0wm4n: are they members of the audio group?  - 'groups username' will tell you
[04:46] <capiCrimm> ThePub, have you ever used OpenGL in lisp?
[04:46] <sn0wm4n> bimberi: thats the thing -- yes
[04:46] <ThePub> capiCrimm: beyong some basic lisp hacking I've barely did text UIs in lisp :)
[04:46] <eltech> would vsftpd be included on the dektop/laptop cd?
[04:46] <sn0wm4n> bimberi: thats the first thing I've checked
[04:47] <bimberi> sn0wm4n: hm, then i'm not sure sorry :| perhaps someone else?
[04:47] <ThePub> capiCrimm: I have friends who like lisp, me.. I'm a java, groovy, c guy :)
[04:47] <sn0wm4n> bimberi: thanks
[04:47] <bimberi> eltech: no, i'm fairly sure not - it would probably be on the DVD image
[04:48] <malt> bimberi: what is some ways i can access postfix?
[04:48] <eontasticness> so i want to remove evolution, but if i do sudo apt-get remove evolution it says its gonna remove ubuntu-desktop too --- will that screw up everything
[04:48] <eontasticness> ?
[04:48] <GigaClon> no
[04:48] <bimberi> malt: if you install "mailx" you get the classic text based mail interface.  You can use that to test.
[04:48] <nu-> i removed it
[04:48] <malt> is there a link to it liek phpmyadmin or is it all in background bimberi?
[04:48] <capiCrimm> ThePub, eh, I can't stand Java, nasty, nasty language, but C is okay.
[04:48] <GigaClon> its just meta package
[04:48] <GigaClon> I love Java
[04:48] <nu-> python ftw
[04:49] <capiCrimm> GigaClon, that's because your not used to other language idioms.
[04:50] <bimberi> malt: all in background.  it listens on port 25 and processes that need it will connect to that
[04:50] <mrcucumber> Does on get access to Oreilly rough cuts if you sign up for Safari?
[04:50] <ThePub> capiCrimm: I suppose.  It's pretty much ubiquitous in corporate services segments.  Groovy though sits on the JVM and can use the java library, but has a much more sane syntax imo.
[04:50] <dibblego> is there ever going to be a 6.06.2?
[04:50] <charlie> i have not been able to run java ,on firefox with mepis yet ,i have downloaded it to my desktop.How to run java script?
[04:50] <agent> !offtopic > ThePub
[04:51] <ThePub> agent: oh, shh, I'm just responding and not making :)
[04:51] <Tonren> Hay guyz, what's a good Linux music p2p fileshare thingummy?  Are there any?
[04:51] <agent> !p2p | Tonren
[04:51] <ubotu> Tonren: Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[04:51] <eltech> bimberi dvd?
[04:52] <bimberi> !dvdiso | eltech
[04:52] <ubotu> eltech: DVD ISOs are available via http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/
[04:52] <eltech> only on the dvd release? wouldnt be possible to aptget it?
[04:52] <eltech> ah
[04:52] <capiCrimm> didn't install any firewall, yet torrent ports are blocked for all but root. help?
[04:52] <bimberi> eltech: well yes, but i was making wild assumptions given your initial question :)
[04:52] <eltech> :)
[04:52] <eltech> thanks
[04:53] <bimberi> np :)
[04:53] <Red-Sox> Hrm
[04:53] <Red-Sox> Can someone highlight me?
[04:53] <ThePub> capiCrimm: just a stock install of what?
[04:54] <malt> bimberi: after i install mailx or something, is there a way i need to access it to like secure it?
[04:54] <malt> or password it?
[04:54] <Red-Sox> ...or not...
[04:54] <capiCrimm> ThePub, edgy, it's not a virgin install, though.
[04:54] <ThePub> capiCrimm: are you sure you're not being blocked at your cable, dsl, etc, router?
[04:55] <capiCrimm> ThePub, yep. Like I said root works.
[04:55] <helloyo> can i install edgy on the command line, or must i go through gnome?
[04:55] <juancarlos> ThePub: if root isn't blocked.
[04:55] <bimberi> malt: no, it should run from the command line.  Or do you mean to stop other users on the system from using it?
[04:55] <ThePub> capiCrimm: are you using ports above.. what is it, 1000?
[04:55] <ThePub> or is it 5000?
[04:55] <ThePub> I forget where "user" ports begin :D
[04:55] <capiCrimm> I forget as well, but I'm well above it.
[04:56] <bimberi> helloyo: alternate cd has a text-based installer
[04:56] <ThePub> hmm
[04:56] <capiCrimm> 36417, 6881-6890 are the ones I've tried.
[04:56] <capiCrimm> all of them come back with unable to bind
[04:56] <agent> helloyo: there are also version of ubuntu that use something other than gnome (kubuntu uses kde, xubuntu uses xfce, etc.)
[04:56] <DARKGuy> Hey, I have a question about the Server Install CD (is it the alternate one too?)... does it has a way to install itself into the drive, or do I have to do it manually like some other Linux CLI distros? also, it's a full-featured CLI-like install for servers or it's just a lightweight barebones CLI install with nothing else, just the basic stuff?
[04:56] <helloyo> bimberi: so i have to download another cd...
[04:57] <ThePub> capiCrimm: tyring to run more than one torrent?  first one works, second doesn't?
[04:57] <Megaqwerty> what is the best text to speech program for ubuntu?
[04:57] <juancarlos> capiCrimm, try installing firestarter (a simple firewall) and use the gui to set it up
[04:57] <helloyo> agent: yeah, i'm trying to not have to download another cd, so just install the base ubuntu system, then install ontop of it
[04:57] <Megaqwerty> (by best I mean most humanlike)
[04:57] <agent> !server | DARKGuy
[04:57] <ubotu> DARKGuy: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[04:57] <Red-Sox> !test | Red-Sox
[04:57] <ubotu> Red-Sox: Failed.
[04:57] <Red-Sox> Hrm
[04:57] <DARKGuy> agent, okay, but that isn't the alternate CD that you all talk about, right?
[04:57] <ThePub> capiCrimm: probably a dumb question, but I got that same issue with the gnome torrent client when downloading multiple torrents (seperate processes trying to bind to the same port)
[04:58] <bimberi> DARKGuy: alternate and server are separate images.  Each with a different package set.  Alternate is desktop focused (eg. X, Gnome/KDE). Server is server focussed (eg. LAMP)
[04:58] <Krinkle> I just set up ubuntu today for the first time. I didn't use the live cd I used the text one. While installing it said it couldn't find a network card, but after installed it sees them in the networking panel and I activated them but I cannot get to any websites. Am I missing something stupidly obvious? It's not wireless so my router doesn't have an excuse to bounce me. I am confused.
[04:58] <DARKGuy> bimberi, Ah I see, great thanks :)
[04:58] <bimberi> helloyo: is the Desktop CD not working for you?  (if so, then yes)
[04:58] <bimberi> DARKGuy: np :)
[04:58] <helloyo> bimberi: technically yes, but its excruciatingly slow, i'd love to just drop it to a shell, and install there
[04:59] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: and yet you are talking to us?
[04:59] <juancarlos> ThePub, can't it be that the iptables has normal users under restrictive mode?
[04:59] <agent> helloyo: yes, you can just install a bare system and then install a desktop that you want (or not)... for example, ubuntu-desktop gives you ubuntu which is gnome, kubuntu-desktop kde, etc.
[04:59] <aL\away> /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:59] <rc-1> usb hd isnt showing up in lsusb; getting this error: Dec 14 22:15:30 Andrew kernel: [17182357.556000]  end_request: I/O error, dev hdb, sector 4
[04:59] <rc-1> Dec 14 22:21:20 Andrew kernel: [17182707.776000]  usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[04:59] <aL\away> i tried to edit
[04:59] <helloyo> agent: can i do this with the desktop cd, without going through gnome?
[04:59] <Krinkle> I set up a dual boot so I just logged back into windows
[04:59] <aL\away> but it says i neeed root
[04:59] <Megaqwerty> ah
[04:59] <aL\away> it did nt ask for pass
[04:59] <aL\away> how do i do it
[04:59] <agent> helloyo: you should note that the alternate only has ubuntu i think, you will have to have internet working to install kubuntu and others from the alternate cd
[04:59] <bimberi> helloyo: ah. sorry, Ubiquity (the GUI installer) is the only way with the Desktop CD.
[04:59] <Megaqwerty> krinkle: let me read over your question again
[05:00] <capiCrimm> hehe, got it. I was binding to my old static IP. Love moving computers around.
[05:00] <agent> helloyo: no, not through desktop cd as far as i know
[05:00] <capiCrimm> root wasn't configured so there was no binding.
[05:00] <bimberi> aL\away: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:00] <juancarlos> capiCrimm, lol
[05:00] <helloyo> bimberi: agent: ah ok, thanks, i'll see if i can get the installer to come up in the next 10 minutes, or i'll try something else, thanks
[05:00] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: I suggest getting the network-manager-gnome...hold on, I'll get you a download site
[05:00] <Megaqwerty> it makes things so much easier
[05:01] <VerdRousseau> Anyone got a dell wireless card working?
[05:01] <juancarlos> VerdRousseau, me
[05:01] <VerdRousseau> what kind
[05:01] <Krinkle> I hope so there weren't many options besides DHCP or manual.
[05:01] <eontasticness> like a dell Truemobile?
[05:01] <VerdRousseau> yeh
[05:01] <juancarlos> VerdRousseau, 1400
[05:01] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/net/network-manager-gnome
[05:01] <eontasticness> i think those use the ralink driver
[05:01] <eontasticness> on some of them
[05:01] <Krinkle> Megaqwerty: okay. After I get this file how do I get it to this partition that I can't see from windows? Flash drive?
[05:01] <VerdRousseau> juancarlos whatd you use to get that working
[05:02] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: yeah that works
[05:02] <juancarlos> ndiswrapper
[05:02] <VerdRousseau> did you use the driver on the disc
[05:02] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: I personally just made an extra FAT partition
[05:02] <juancarlos> VerdRousseau, support.dell.com...
[05:02] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: but that is for later
[05:02] <VerdRousseau> and what files did you use in it
[05:02] <juancarlos> VerdRousseau, the one's ndiswrapper told me to use.
[05:02] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: before you go....
[05:03] <aL\away> ok
[05:03] <VerdRousseau> I mean was it in the win98 file or the winxp
[05:03] <aL\away> ok its done
[05:03] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: you should know that it may say something like "the following dependencies are missing" or something of the like, in which case, here is what you do...
[05:03] <aL\away> what do i do now
[05:03] <juancarlos> VerdRousseau, XP.
[05:03] <aL\away> to install egdrop
[05:03] <Krinkle> Megaqwerty: Still here. Also does it matter what file format the flash drive is in?
[05:03] <juancarlos> VerdRousseau, it works out of the box on my new laptop though.
[05:03] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: what do you mean?
[05:04] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: did you change it from factory settings?
[05:04] <VerdRousseau> juancarlos- for Ubuntu you didnt even have to do anything?
[05:04] <juancarlos> VerdRousseau, can't seem to get it into promiscous mode though.
[05:04] <juancarlos> nope...
[05:04] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: if you didn't reformat it as something else, it should be fine, but it should be fine regardless
[05:04] <Krinkle> megaqwerty: no it just seemed like the kind of thing I would forget about and would turn out to make a huge difference... it's fat I just checked but I was just being careful
[05:04] <Megaqwerty> I'm pretty sure Ubuntu can read anything
[05:04] <VerdRousseau> before when you did install it manually did you have to copy any files manually
[05:05] <VerdRousseau> cant read my truemobile 1180
[05:05] <juancarlos> VerdRousseau, of course.
[05:05] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: I understand, now I'll finish writing what I was saying before
[05:06] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: \you go back to the site I gave you, and click on the package that it told you you didn't have, and download it. It's pretty simple actually. Oh, and all you have to do is double click on the file and click  "open" and that will ask you for your admin password, give it to the program, and then after clicking install, it will do so.
[05:06] <juancarlos> VerdRousseau, have you tried ndiswrapper?
[05:06] <aL\away> i have enabled universe
[05:06] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: that should be all you need to know.
[05:06] <VerdRousseau> yes
[05:06] <aL\away> eggdrop is still showin
[05:06] <aL\away> that msg
[05:06] <VerdRousseau> all the drivers are installed
[05:06] <shadowhywind> hay all, is it safe to remove the linux-restricted-modules?
[05:06] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: if not, I should still be here for a while
[05:06] <VerdRousseau> but nothin is being picked up
[05:06] <aL\away> checking for gcc... gcc
[05:06] <aL\away> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:06] <juancarlos> hmmm
[05:07] <juancarlos> VerdRousseau, can you ifup/ifdown?
[05:07] <jumper> I installed ububtu (with a bit of difficulty)... switched to KDE (I really dislike Gnome) and edited xorg.conf with nano as screen resolution does not seem to be on the properties editor
[05:07] <VerdRousseau> ifup down the wlan0
[05:07] <arrenlex> shadowhywind: Yes, if you don't need any of them -- no closed-source graphics drivers on your system, are there?
[05:07] <Krinkle> Megaqwerty: Thanks. Also these are a lot of different files is  NetworkManager-0.6.4.tar.gz the right one?
[05:07] <VerdRousseau> ill try
[05:07] <jumper> I started xchat, (I did all the updates)
[05:07] <jrib> aL\away: eggdrop is in universe, you don't need to compile it
[05:07] <arrenlex> aL\away: You need to install build-essential
[05:07] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: oh no, you need the one that ends in .deb
[05:07] <jumper> it is a much older version than I am used to (or am using now)
[05:08] <shadowhywind> arrenlex not that i am aware of
[05:08] <rc-1> external hd not showing up in lsusb, but the kernel says this when i plug it in: Dec 14 22:15:30 Andrew kernel: [17182357.556000]  end_request: I/O error, dev hdb, sector 4Dec 14 22:21:20 Andrew kernel: [17182707.776000]  usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[05:08] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: this page: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fn%2Fnetwork-manager%2Fnetwork-manager-gnome_0.6.3-2ubuntu6_i386.deb&md5sum=1f857fb5abaa57675e4695baf66289b5&arch=i386&type=main
[05:08] <jumper> is there a seperate way to update old programs,  update all in sympatic didn't touch it
[05:08] <arrenlex> shadowhywind: If you remove it and devices suddenly stop working, put it back. Otherwise knock yourself out.
[05:08] <aL\away> ow ok
[05:08] <VerdRousseau> with ifdown wlan0 I get Network is down
[05:08] <VerdRousseau> SI0csidfflags: No such device
[05:09] <shadowhywind> when i try to uninstall it it also wants to uninstall linux-386, this would be a BAD thing right
[05:09] <VerdRousseau> keeps trying to send packet but says Network is Down
[05:09] <Krinkle> one last thing, is there a huge difference between the i386 and the amd64 downloads of ubuntu? I wasn't sure if my C2D processor was 64bit but now I am and I already installed the other
[05:09] <aL\away> i did
[05:09] <Lanky> heyhey
[05:09] <h0ndaracer3> how do i delete a file that it wont let me delete
[05:09] <aL\away> do i have to configure config file
[05:09] <arrenlex> shadowhywind: linux-386 is a metapackage IIRC.
[05:09] <aL\away> and run for termenal
[05:10] <ThePub> juancarlos: Oh, I'm sure.. was just asking the easy question :)
[05:10] <shadowhywind> arrenlex which means?
[05:10] <arrenlex> !metapackage | shadowhywind
[05:10] <ubotu> shadowhywind: A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[05:10] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: Just what architecture that it is made for
[05:10] <VerdRousseau> juancralos: after ifup final thing is No working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[05:10] <shadowhywind> so if i remove linux-i386 its not going to breal the system
[05:10] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: if you have an intel processor it is the i386 architecture
[05:11] <aL\away> arrenlex
[05:11] <juancarlos> VerdRousseau, hmmm ho to System-networking
[05:11] <juancarlos> VerdRousseau, hmmm go to System-networking*
[05:11] <jb0nd38372> Evening everyone
[05:11] <aL\away> do i now edit bot config and run eggdrop from terminal
[05:11] <VerdRousseau> yeh in networking I only have
[05:11] <VerdRousseau> 2 wired connections wlan0 and etho0
[05:11] <Krinkle> alright thanks. Going to try it now.
[05:11] <VerdRousseau> eth0
[05:11] <arrenlex> shadowhywind: No. If you're removing packages that have lots of numbers at the end, like linux-image-2.6.18-3-686, then you have a problem.
[05:12] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: good luck
[05:12] <shadowhywind> hehe thanks
[05:12] <rafael_> Hi all
[05:12] <rc-1> erg please someone help me :( my final project is on my external hd and  i cant get it to be recognized in lsusb
[05:13] <_Astra_> Hi all... anyone here has ever used frame buffer over Ubuntu?
[05:14] <alexander_> hey all!
[05:14] <alexander_> can some1 help me out?
[05:14] <arrenlex> !anyone | alexander_
[05:14] <ubotu> alexander_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:14] <jumper> I installed ubuntu to try it, I looked it over a year or so ago, did not like it (I have used Xandros about 3 years)
[05:14] <arrenlex> jumper: You can use the liveCD to try it :)
[05:15] <alexander_> I'm kinda new to ubuntu, and Linux for that matter... im trying to add a language
[05:15] <jumper> ubuntu seems to be the 'in'thing, I installed it again to use a few days to see what everyone else sees that I did not
[05:15] <aL\away> arrenlex
[05:15] <ubuntu> hey u use ubuntu
[05:15] <aL\away> i have installed eggdrop
[05:15] <ubuntu> but i don't how to use it.
[05:15] <aL\away> now do i have to edit config file
[05:15] <ubuntu> someone help
[05:15] <jumper> in 3 years I never had to use command line with XN, so far to make the distro 'useable' I have had to manually edit xorg.conf
[05:16] <aL\away> i have never done it this way
[05:16] <ubuntu> eggdrop is shit
[05:16] <alexander_> how do you right a message adressed to some1 in this chat?
[05:16] <arrenlex> aL\away: yes?
[05:16] <appye> I removed a couple of the items in the list under the "networking" item under "administration" and now the program crashes every time I open it...
[05:16] <jumper> remaining problem, I set root password, and my password
[05:16] <ubuntu> i try to install it on fedora and it give me error
[05:16] <aL\away> i enabled universe and now installed eggdrop
[05:16] <alexander_> guys?
[05:16] <alexander_> anyone?
[05:16] <aL\away> whats my next step
[05:16] <arrenlex> alexander_: A private message?
[05:16] <ubuntu> from where are you
[05:17] <jumper> I am unable to log on as root, BUT when I foto term, synaptic etc, the root password works fine ?
[05:17] <appye> how would I go about fixing this?
[05:17] <alexander_> well not a private, but adressed to someone... like in red color
[05:17] <aL\away> do i edit the config file and from terminal type ./eggdrop -m bot.conf
[05:17] <arrenlex> !sudo | jumper
[05:17] <ubotu> jumper: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:17] <appye> I do not have a problem resetting all networking settings to default and reconfiguring networking from scratch.
[05:17] <jumper> saw and used that...
[05:17] <alexander_> arrenlex ?
[05:17] <arrenlex> alexander_: Yes?
[05:17] <jumper> but should  I not be able to log on as root ?
[05:18] <alexander_> how do i adress a message to you?
[05:18] <ubuntu> hmmm
[05:18] <arrenlex> jumper: Ubuntu has no root account. Use sudo -i for a root prompt.
[05:18] <arrenlex> alexander_: You just did.
[05:18] <arrenlex> alexander_: By using my name.
[05:18] <ubuntu> i try yo send arrenlex and you dont reply me
[05:18] <jumper> ok, that explains it
[05:18] <arrenlex> ubuntu: What are you trying to send me? xD
[05:18] <juancarlos> VerdRousseau, http://ubuntu-inspiron.blogspot.com/2005_02_01_ubuntu-inspiron_archive.html
[05:18] <alexander_> arrenlex, can you help me out?
[05:18] <jumper> have tried dozens of live cd's and distro's
[05:19] <arrenlex> alexander_: With adding languages? No; I don't use gnome.
[05:19] <jumper> each & all have root and guest
[05:19] <appye> anyone want to tell me how I can reset all networking settings back to factory defaults?  I borked my "networking" control panel dealybob
[05:19] <ubuntu> i want to remove languages
[05:19] <jumper> expected similar re root :)
[05:19] <alexander_> arrenlex, :(
[05:19] <ubuntu> and use only US
[05:19] <appye> from changing settings around.
[05:19] <arrenlex> jumper: Ubuntu is designed for newbies. Sudo helps them avoid shooting themselves in the foot.
[05:19] <ubuntu> Hey
[05:19] <ubuntu> Here
[05:19] <ubuntu> why i'm not admin in ubuntu
[05:19] <eontasticness> OMG UBUNTU IS HERE
[05:20] <jumper> somehow doubt a newbie would have manage to get it installed
[05:20] <arrenlex> eontasticness: Someone decides to be original every once in a while. :)
[05:20] <ubuntu> Ja UBUNTU is here
[05:20] <jumper> had awful fight with installer
[05:20] <jumper> havent even won yet
[05:20] <arrenlex> jumper: That's surprising. Usually the installer is very easy to use.
[05:20] <arrenlex> jumper: What problems are you having?
[05:20] <jumper> wanted to install on my second drive hdb
[05:20] <ubuntu> Hey why i'm not admin in UBUNTU
[05:20] <DARKGuy> oO I can't believe that, the installer is way easier than the one in... oO other distros I've ever tried
[05:21] <ubuntu> i ask me for password for every thing i do
[05:21] <arrenlex> ubuntu: There is no root account in ubuntu.
[05:21] <obe1> how do i tell what runlevel I am in?
[05:21] <ubuntu> yes there is
[05:21] <ubuntu> i ask me for admin pass
[05:21] <arrenlex> ubuntu: No, there isn't. o_O Not unless you made one.
[05:21] <arrenlex> ubuntu: No, it's asking you for your user password.
[05:21] <jumper> ubuntu was determined to use hda swap even tho I created and formatted a swap for it on hdb
[05:21] <obe1> arrenlex, there is certainly a root account
[05:21] <arrenlex> obe1: Not unless you made one yourself, no. Not in ubuntu.
[05:21] <arrenlex> !root
[05:21] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:21] <obe1> arrenlex, yes
[05:22] <ubuntu> ok how to make admin account in UBunut
[05:22] <appye> man .. there are too many people in this room.  I need to know where the file is that contains the list of ip addresess and whatnot in the "networking" control panel
[05:22] <ubuntu> Ubuntu
[05:22] <arrenlex> obe1: ...no? xD
[05:22] <ubuntu> perdon for the error
[05:22] <jumper> and on hdb it wanted touse, would not let me change to hdb7  a 10 meg part versus hdb3 a 3 meg partition
[05:22] <obe1> arrenlex, you just do everything in terms of sudo
[05:22] <jumper> buth formatted ext3
[05:22] <obe1> but you  can sudo su -
[05:22] <jumper> both
[05:22] <arrenlex> obe1: Sudo exists so there isn't a root account.
[05:22] <obe1> arrenlex, haha
[05:22] <arrenlex> obe1: You can but it's not recommended. And all sudo su does is grant you root privileges to run with root priveleges.
[05:22] <jumper> finally deleted all partitions but w98 on second drive, pulled drive 1, made drv2 a master and managed install
[05:23] <ubuntu> And now lets see,how to make admin or root account
[05:23] <ubuntu> someone help
[05:23] <arrenlex> obe1: Same as running sudo -i or sudo bash. It just grants you the rights, there is no ACCOUNT.
[05:23] <arrenlex> ubuntu: Why do you need to?
[05:23] <lumaQQ> GAIM question ~ how do i unblock someone who is blocked?    (my computer is in chinese   dont reallt know how to find what im looking for.
[05:23] <obe1> arrenlex, i.e. root privileges mean root account
[05:23] <ubuntu> from the programers of the UBuntu hey tik tak come here.
[05:23] <obe1> root in in /etc/passwd
[05:23] <jumper> now will have to reinstall my master, and edit lilo.conf to hdb 1,0
[05:23] <arrenlex> obe1: Uh... no. o_O
[05:23] <DARKGuy> appye, I don't really know what do you need exactly nor I have much experience in networking under Ubuntu/Linux, but have you tried checking the /etc/networking/interfaces file?
[05:24] <arrenlex> lumaQQ: Not easily. Tools - privacy. Remove the buddy you've pardoned.
[05:24] <ubuntu> Obel man and what i need to search in this directory
[05:24] <obe1> arrenlex, root is the first line in /etc/passwd, and why am i arguing with you
[05:24] <ubuntu> man
[05:24] <ubuntu> OBel
[05:24] <jamesstansell> !java6
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <appye> DARKGuy: thanks.  I will check that one.
[05:24] <ubuntu> when i try to enter with root and password
[05:24] <DARKGuy> appye, good luck :)
[05:24] <ubuntu> it told me that the account can enter in this desktop
[05:24] <jamesstansell> can anyone say when sun-java6 will be packaged for Ubuntu?
[05:24] <ubuntu> perdon can't
[05:25] <obe1> ubuntu, how are you searching?
[05:25] <ubuntu> what obel
[05:25] <appye> DARKGuy: nope.  that is not the one.
[05:25] <ubuntu> i'm not searching
[05:25] <danielmarsom> i am needing help with beryl.
[05:25] <DARKGuy> appye, ah, then I can't suggest anything more rather than looking in the files in the /etc/networking/ folder :/
[05:25] <DARKGuy> Brb
[05:26] <ubuntu> switch user then root and password
[05:26] <ubuntu> and told me that the root can't use the desktop.
[05:26] <jamesstansell> !java
[05:26] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> danielmarsom: Try in #ubuntu-xgl or #beryl
[05:26] <obe1> ubuntu, you are trying to start X with the root user?
[05:26] <jb0nd38372> Is there a graphical ide for the ruby programming language?  I  installed ruby via Synaptic, but cant figure out where or how to start the ide if there is one
[05:27] <ubuntu> obel man i try to log with root account
[05:27] <obe1> ubuntu, you cannot do that
[05:27] <ubuntu> and why root user man
[05:27] <danielmarsom> tonyyarusso, ive tried beryl, goin to xgl now
[05:27] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: did it work?
[05:27] <ubuntu> and why in REd hat it work man.
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> jamesstansell: I doubt it would be backported anyway...could be wrong.
[05:27] <eontasticness> XGL for me wouldnt work in 1400x1050 resolution
[05:27] <appye> DARKGuy: you know how when you go into the "networking" control panel under "administration" ?  On the second tab over, there is a list of ip addresses such as <IP_ADDRESS>, and a bunch of others.  I deleted <IP_ADDRESS> and when I reopened the applet, I get a bug buddy thing constantly
[05:28] <jamesstansell> I believe there is a ruby project for Eclipse
[05:28] <obe1> on ubuntu, the root password is null, in /etc/shadow, root password is `!' which means one cannot login as root
[05:28] <obe1> directly
[05:28] <DARKGuy> Back
[05:29] <[Ithaycu] > You can set a root password using sudo
[05:29] <Krinkle> ubuntu doesn't boot, all I get is [17179572.880000]  PCI: JMB36x Enabling dual function on 0000:06:00.0   all I changed was I changed the flags on the windows partition to not be hidden. Ideas?
[05:29] <[Ithaycu] > I think?
[05:29] <ubuntu> obel man and what this mean that i can't be root admin in Ubuntu
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> !sudo | ubuntu
[05:29] <ubotu> ubuntu: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:29] <jumper> what 3d desktop is on synpatic that can be used in ubuntu
[05:29] <jamesstansell> tonyyarusso: sun has done the packaging that it will, but I'd prefer to use a deb
[05:29] <appye> DARKGuy: weird.  now it is working miraculously.
[05:29] <DARKGuy> appye, Hm, I'm on Windows right now downloading an alternate install cd, but I can try... some stuff I guess? what is the description of those IP addresses or what's the window/tab you're in about?
[05:29] <DARKGuy> appye, oO weird
[05:30] <appye> i did nothing at all
[05:30] <[Ithaycu] > yes 'sudo passwd' is the command
[05:30] <ubuntu> ubotu thanks man i'm going to the site
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks man i'm going to the site - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: hold on
[05:31] <jamesstansell> Ruby Development Tools project is at http://rubyeclipse.sourceforge.net/
[05:31] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: I'm reading the bug report to see if there is a fix
[05:31] <obe1> ubuntu, if you are looking to use the root account directly, Ubuntu is not the distribution of linux you should be running
[05:31] <neosa-chris> neone need some assistance?
[05:31] <neosa-chris> quicky assistance
[05:31] <[Ithaycu] > just confirmed that command 'sudo passwd' works
[05:31] <ubuntu> no don't work
[05:31] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: Do you have a Dual Core Proccessor?
[05:32] <[Ithaycu] > The username you create during install is added into the sudo users file
[05:32] <neosa-chris> sudo passwd [user]
[05:32] <neosa-chris> try that
[05:32] <ubuntu> where to put sudo
[05:32] <neosa-chris> by [user]  i mean put your user account into it
[05:32] <obe1> ubuntu, when you use 'sudo', you enter your user's password, not a 'root' password...
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> [Ithaycu] : We don't really recommend telling people how to set a root password though, since if they don't know how already, they probably don't know what they're doing well enough to understand why it shouldn't be set.
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> Also @ neosa-chris
[05:32] <ubuntu> obel man welcome back
[05:33] <neosa-chris> whats up tony?
[05:33] <jumper> the first item asked in installer is root password :)  then username and his password
[05:33] <[Ithaycu] > tonyyarusso: well I didn't mean to release the genie from the bottle
[05:33] <arrenlex> jumper: Not in ubuntu.
[05:33] <[Ithaycu] > :0
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> [Ithaycu] : Yeah, it happens :P
[05:33] <ubuntu> obel now i need to write sudo in gnome terminal or not
[05:33] <pkh> can anyone help me to find out shy some services aren't starting at boot (apache2 and mysql)?
[05:33] <neosa-chris> correct. I jumped into the conversation. I was under the impression he was trying ot hcange his own password
[05:33] <pkh> shy->why...
[05:33] <jumper> yup, just installed it a few hours ago
[05:34] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: if you want help you need to answer questions.
[05:34] <tonyyarusso> pkh: Are the scripts to start them in the runlevel's directory?  (ie /etc/rc2.d/)
[05:34] <pkh> the rc?.d Sxxapache2 and Sxxmysql links are present
[05:34] <alexander> guys
[05:34] <pkh> tonyyarusso, yep, they're there
[05:34] <Krinkle> megaqwerty: sorry. Yes I have a C2D processor.
[05:35] <jumper> arrenlex:  what 3d desktop is avaible via synaptic ?
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> pkh: Is there anything in an error log that might be useful?
[05:35] <Megaqwerty> okay...hold on
[05:35] <arrenlex> jumper: What do you mean by 3d desktop?
[05:35] <Mehdi> Hi, i'm going asking this rather Off-Topic question here, mainly because I know this channel has a lot of professionals. I'm a computer science major with one semester left. I want to have a really good "Objective Statement" which I want to place at the top of my resume. I was wondering what you thought about this: "To further my learning and experience of the Computer Science field"
[05:35] <jumper> cube, rotatable desktops etc
[05:35] <alexander> guys how do you start a name in this chat, and then you press something and it like "autofills" itself?
[05:35] <pkh> tonyyarusso, not sure which errorlog to look in...  both start correclty when run from the commandline bia /etc/init.d/xxx start
[05:35] <Krinkle> megaqwerty: I was typing directly to you wasn't I? I didn't just message a lot to someone with a similar name?
[05:35] <Mehdi> If anyone would be so kind as to help me out with it, I would appreciate it a lot
[05:36] <mister_roboto> alexander: use tab to auto-complete
[05:36] <obe1> ubuntu, i am sorry i have no clue what you are trying to do. if you want to run a command as root, in a terminal, type: sudo <command> <arguments>
[05:36] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: oh I'm not logged in for pms, hold on
[05:36] <alexander> mister_roboto, yay!!!! TY ALOT
[05:36] <obe1> ubuntu, then you enter your password
[05:36] <alexander> mister_roboto, im kinda new to all of this :P
[05:36] <mister_roboto> alexander: glad to help :)
[05:36] <alexander> mister_roboto, :)
[05:37] <Megaqwerty> now I am
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> pkh: It may be that a dependency isn't being started far enough ahead of them.  I'd pop into /var/log and just grep for apache and msql
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> mysql
[05:37] <dabaR_> Mehdi: wher do you live?
[05:38] <neosa-chris> welt i hope ya all have good luck..
[05:38] <tonyyarusso> Mehdi: We have a whole channel for that stuff - #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[05:38] <neosa-chris> anyone need any long term help<EMAIL_ADDRESS>is me... peace out ya'll
[05:38] <jumper> http://desk3d.sourceforge.net/
[05:38] <Mehdi> tony, thank you
[05:38] <pkh> tonyyarusso, nothing obvious -- just the expected stuff -- and all looks like it's normal
[05:38] <Mehdi> dabar: MA, USA
[05:39] <tonyyarusso> pkh: Try renaming the init script to start later and see what happens?
[05:39] <pkh> k, will do
[05:39] <jumper> looking for this, to install via synaptic ?
[05:39] <alexander> hey all.... i got a problem. My internet in firefox is slow. Its not a traffic problem because i checked that already, any specific off hand thoughts?
[05:40] <alexander> anyone?
[05:40] <alexander> ./crickets
[05:42] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: Dude, you need to install Ubuntu Edgy. (6.10)
[05:42] <Krinkle> megaqwerty: I am sorry. I didn't know you had to be logged in to message. I got booted for flooding when I copied and pasted
[05:42] <Megaqwerty> oh
[05:42] <Megaqwerty> that's alright
[05:43] <Megaqwerty> your bug is listed as fixed in Ubuntu Edgy Eft 6.10
[05:43] <Megaqwerty> you may have accidentally installed the 6.06 verison
[05:43] <pkh> tonyyarusso, no good -- still they both don't start --everythign else starts fine!
[05:43] <Megaqwerty> *version
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> pkh: And no logging at all?
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> hmmm
[05:43] <pkh> nothing
[05:44] <Krinkle> okay. that's good. What is edgy? just a different build?
[05:44] <pkh> very frustrating -- like I said they both start perfectly everytime from the commandline post-boot -- and run faultlessly, but on reboot they don't appear -- it;s as if they aren't being started by the boot process.
[05:44] <dee> hallo....
[05:44] <dee> yes......
[05:44] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: It's like what Vista is to XP
[05:44] <Megaqwerty> Krinkle: for Ubuntu
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> pkh: Try poking around with a tool like sysv-rc-conf, disabling and reenabling them
[05:45] <Krinkle> alright. I gotta get to bed. I'll find it tomorrow after work. Thanks for all the help.
[05:45] <Megaqwerty> okay, you're welcome
[05:45] <DARKGuy> Megaqwerty, actually, Feisty Fawn is as Vista is to XP :P
[05:46] <Megaqwerty> DARKGuy: Fine, but it was an example
[05:46] <dee> can I join
[05:46] <dabaR_> !ask
[05:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:47] <jumper> I opened 'file browser'  all that is listed is my home, desktop filesystem, floppys and cd/dvd roms
[05:47] <sysdoc> lol, vista is more like a rebaked ME though...
[05:47] <jumper> plugged in usb drive, nothing happened
[05:47] <DARKGuy> Megaqwerty, s'okay xD
[05:47] <jumper> same goes when I plugged in bluetooth
[05:47] <Megaqwerty> ;)
[05:47] <jumper> how do I access all the other partitions on my drives ?
[05:47] <dee> where u come 4
[05:47] <jumper> and usb devices when plugged in ?
[05:48] <jumper> do they not autodetect like other distro's ?
[05:50] <dee> yuu huu...
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> !fstab | jumper
[05:50] <ubotu> jumper: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[05:50] <jumper> should these not all be detected and mounted during install ?
[05:50] <jumper> and when I plug in a usb drive, nothing happens
[05:51] <jumper> same for plug in bluetooth adapter
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> jumper: Generally, yes, they should
[05:51] <billytwowilly> if I'm in synaptic, how do I see which repository a package comes from?
[05:51] <jumper> install should have doen that ?  my bad I guess, expected to "install and use"
[05:52] <jumper> I used pclinuxos last week a few days... in it, when I plugged in a usb device, up came filemanager and I was ready to go ?
[05:53] <jumper> and it is based on ubuntu ?
[05:53] <bimberi> billytwowilly: right-click on a package, Properties, Versions tab
[05:53] <jumper> same for supergamer that I have in another partition, plug in a device and use it
[05:53] <burner> !enter
[05:53] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:54] <jumper> same for puppy linux that I have in yet another aprtition as well as the Xandros that I have used the past 3 years
[05:54] <pkh> tonyyarusso, (or anyone else)  any other ideas where to look for this starting problem -- I've removed all the links, replaced them by hand and through sysv.-rc-conf.  This is unbelievable, it's as if they don't exist!
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> jumper: That's how things work for me - perhaps it's a bug.
[05:54] <billytwowilly> bimberi: so the thing in brackets is the repsoitory it's coming from?
[05:54] <jumper> for me too on the distro's I have installed, and all the live cd's I have tried
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> pkh: Are they missing some config files anywhere, or are any of those misconfigured?  (Prolly not since they start manually, but hey)
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> pkh: Do you have an odd disk setup so maybe something isn't mounted in time?
[05:55] <Mokshu> hi
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> !hi
[05:55] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:55] <Mokshu> is there any ubuntu package available for vlc 0.8.6 ?
[05:55] <pkh> tonyyarusso, that's possible (it's actually a vpslink server) but I've placed them after _everything else_
[05:55] <digi|tize> I'm trying to install kubuntu 6.10.1 but the partition editor doesn't recognize the partition on the desired hd, which is an ntfs partition.  the hd info (drive maker and model) loads up, but not the actual partition, as a result i'm unable to resize the partition and setup more partitions for linux.  any ideas?
[05:55] <jrib> Mokshu: that's what is in edgy
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> !info vlc | Mokshu
[05:56] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[05:56] <bimberi> billytwowilly: yes, well actually that and the "Section" on the Common tab.  It will have, for example, "universe" in brackets if applicable.
[05:56] <pkh> tonyyarusso, is there perhaps somewhere I can put '/etc/init.d/apache2 start' so it gets run on startup -- just to see if that gets things started...
[05:56] <Mokshu> jrib: package in edgy is an old svn build nope ?
[05:56] <bimberi> billytwowilly: where it just has nothing in brackets, it's in "main"
[05:56] <Mokshu> !info vlc
[05:56] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[05:56] <GoClick> Why the heck would you meow? What are you seven?
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> pkh: There's bootmisc.sh - you could put a 'sleep' timer in there to put it off further
[05:56] <jrib> Mokshu: october 12th it seems
[05:56] <Mokshu> 12th of october :(
[05:57] <Myria> at work, we have an "HP proliant" blade with 2 woodcrests in it and no hard drive
[05:57] <Mokshu> final 0.8.6 is from a couple of days ago
[05:57] <Myria> we downloaded the server version of ubuntu 6.0.6
[05:57] <Myria> both x86-32 and x86-64
[05:57] <GoClick> This is the official support channel... official channels can't have meowing and barking! This isn't a petting zoo or some kind of vet's office it's a serious technical support tool. TTTTOOOOOOOL
[05:57] <Myria> we followed a series of steps to get it to netboot an image
[05:57] <tonyyarusso> Mokshu: You can request a backport and see if they accept it.  Generally new versions of software after release date are not included.
[05:57] <Myria> we follow the exact same steps for the x86-32 disk and the x86-64 disk, and the x86-64 version doesn't work
[05:58] <cfd90> Help!  Stop whining.
[05:58] <cfd90> wastrel, yes, squeak ;0
[05:58] <cfd90> )
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> !info sqeak-vm
[05:58] <ubotu> Package sqeak-vm does not exist in any distro I know
[05:58] <GoClick> arrenlex I'm just having some fun too ;)
[05:58] <wastrel> interesting
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> !info squeak-vm
[05:58] <cfd90> Thats what it tells me
[05:58] <ubotu> squeak-vm: squeak smalltalk system (virtual machine). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.7.7-5ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 498 kB, installed size 1268 kB
[05:58] <pkh> tonyyarusso, thanks, will tyr that
[05:58] <jrib> Mokshu: the vlc site has packages for ubuntu
[05:59] <cfd90> Is it for 64 bit?
[05:59] <wastrel> squeak-vm is in multiverse
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> cfd90: Do you have multiverse enabled
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> ?
[05:59] <Myria> what is RPC error 101 with NFS, and why do x86-32 and x86-64 act differently?
[05:59] <cfd90> D'oh, if I update to Edgy do I have to enable it there?
[05:59] <bimberi> as is "squeak" (in multiverse)
[05:59] <wastrel> probably cfd90
[05:59] <cfd90> I can't install squeak
[06:00] <cfd90> squeak: Depends: squeak-vm but it is not installable
[06:00] <jrib> Mokshu: hmm maybe not, their link tricked me
[06:00] <wastrel> cfd90:  enable multiverse, apt-get update; apt-get install squeak squeak-vm
[06:00] <Mokshu> yeah, seels obsolete :(
[06:00] <Mokshu> seems*
[06:00] <wastrel> cfd90:  edgy or dapper?
[06:00] <cfd90> Edgy 64 bit
[06:00] <wastrel> well it's installing on my 32bit edgy
[06:00] <wastrel> dunno...
[06:00] <bimberi> ah, perhaps not for 64bit
[06:00] <klees> can someone help installing proprietary ATI drivers
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> !ati | klees
[06:01] <ubotu> klees: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:01] <cfd90> Multiverse is enabled.
[06:01] <klees> i downloaded from the ati site
[06:01] <lars30> my os won't boot after installing a SATA drive... edgy/eft
[06:01] <cfd90> Dang it, how do install it then!?! :P
[06:01] <protocol1> is there a way to delete a directory and its contents via console?
[06:01] <lars30> anyone have a good link to why?
[06:01] <arrenlex> klees: Why? It's much easier to grab them from the official repositories.
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> protocol1: Yes, with the rm command
[06:01] <lars30> protocol1: rm -r /path/to/directory
[06:01] <klees> i'm using a <IP_ADDRESS> kernel
[06:01] <klees> so i need to build modules for that kernel
[06:02] <arrenlex> klees: Where did you get this kernel?
[06:02] <klees> kernel.org
[06:02] <klees> built it
[06:02] <arrenlex> ...ah.
[06:02] <bimberi> cfd90: i386 only :|
[06:02] <lars30> protocol1 rm -rf /path/to/directory if you don't want to type "yes really" a bunch of times.
[06:02] <cfd90> Argh, I have squeak-image and squeak-sources :|
[06:02] <cfd90> :P
[06:02] <bimberi> !chroot | cfd90
[06:02] <ubotu> cfd90: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[06:02] <cfd90> Eh... :P
[06:02] <klees> arrenlex: any way i can use the repo drivers with this kernel?
[06:02] <Myria> what is RPC error 101?  google has way too many things that could cause it
[06:03] <lars30> ubuntu won't boot after installing a Sata drive.. any ideas?
[06:03] <klees> arrenlex: or maybe a repo that can work with custom kernels?
[06:03] <arrenlex> klees: No.
[06:03] <cfd90> Oh well, maybe Seaside and Smalltalk isn't that great...
[06:03] <cfd90> Maybe RoR is better
[06:03] <arrenlex> klees: As to the second, no idea.
[06:03] <protocol1> lars30, with a sudo in front that is  :)
[06:03] <klees> arrenlex: so can u help me troubleshoot the error im getting?
[06:03] <klees> it's failing when building the kernel module
[06:03] <lars30> protocol1: yes.. with a sudo if you dont' have perms on that dir
[06:03] <Scarlet> hi yall
[06:04] <arrenlex> klees: What's the message?
[06:04] <cfd90> 'Lo Scarlet
[06:04] <ThePub> klees: assuming you've built the kernel correctly and left the headers in place, there should be no reason why a build against it should fail.
[06:04] <ThePub> klees: assuming of course, whatever you're trying to build supports the version of kernel you have installed.
[06:05] <Scarlet> I have a toshiba satellite laptop, and ive attempted an install of dapper a couple of times .... it gets to "tell me what size resolution screen you want" then flips out and errors, hense, no installed ubuntu ... what can i do??
[06:05] <klees> ThePub: well i got the latest drivers from the ati site
[06:05] <Scarlet> gday cfd90
[06:05] <jumper> thanks for the help... I'll check out the distro in a few months, perhaps then it will be "install and use"
[06:05] <klees> im trying to paste the log file
[06:05] <protocol1> is it better to extract a .tgz file visually or via console?
[06:06] <arrenlex> klees: Google turned up this pretty thorough walkthrough: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305665 ...would it help you?
[06:06] <jrib> protocol1: whatever you like
[06:06] <arrenlex> jumper: For everyone other than you, it is. I dunno what happened to you.
[06:06] <floating> Hi. If I type rm * or rm -rf * will it delete everything in ecisting dir and subdirs, or is it going to parent directory and thus be really dangerous ?
[06:06] <protocol1> would the permissions be different?
[06:06] <arrenlex> floating: if you run rm -rf * in the folder /tmp/something, you will end up with a completely empty /tmp/something.
[06:07] <jrib> protocol1: no
[06:07] <protocol1> hmm
[06:07] <bimberi> floating: current dir (and below). not the parent
[06:07] <klees> arrenlex: ThePub:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37113/
[06:07] <floating> ok thanks
[06:07] <meherenOS-X> i have a problem with aim...
[06:07] <arrenlex> klees: I believe you are missing the kernel headers.
[06:07] <La_PaRCa> Question: Did the CC approve the Leadership CoC?
[06:07] <ubox> hey all
[06:07] <itsmabus> Is there a way to make all members of one group a member of another? Like in Windows?
[06:07] <klees> arrenlex: i have them installed
[06:07] <jrib> La_PaRCa: yes, I believe so
[06:08] <arrenlex> klees: The file usr/include/linux/config.h exists?
[06:08] <klees> arrenlex: i created these two files:  linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>_k7_i386.deb  linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>_k7_i386.deb
[06:08] <arrenlex> klees: Because that's what it can't find.
[06:09] <klees> arrenlex: =( that file does not exist
[06:09] <bimberi> itsmabus: groups can't be members of other groups, no
[06:09] <arrenlex> klees: packages.ubuntu.com says that file exists in the linux-kernel-headers package. Dunno if that tells you anything.
[06:09] <klees> arrenlex: i thought i installed linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>_k7_i386.deb
[06:09] <ubox> i have the following evolution error-> Host lookup failed: smtp.gmail.com : Name or service not known
[06:10] <ubox> should i be running an smtp on MY machine?
[06:10] <arrenlex> ..hmm.
[06:10] <arrenlex> Wait, I lie. Hold up.
[06:10] <ubox> pop works fine..i can recieve mail
[06:10] <proqesi> !ntfs
[06:10] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:10] <ski-worklap> i want to add control-forward and control-backward to my .inputrc on a remote machine
[06:10] <proqesi> !fuse
[06:10] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:11] <ski-worklap> how can i tell what raw keycods gnome-terminal is sending?
[06:11] <bimberi> ubox: no, you don't need a local smtp server.  Check your config against this: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[06:11] <ubox> oh ok
[06:11] <arrenlex> klees: My apologies. I was looking at my debian system. Ubuntu puts them in /usr/src/linux-headers-<whatever>/include/linux/config.h
[06:12] <arrenlex> klees: Do you have THAT?
[06:12] <ski-worklap> don't write ntfs unless you like pain
[06:13] <ubox> bimberi, done that..
[06:13] <ski-worklap> (and have backups too)
[06:13] <arrenlex> klees: Do you absolutely need to have the newest kernel? As you can see it's a pain.
[06:13] <klees> arrenlex: i dont have config.h but i do have a /usr/src/linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:13] <ski-worklap> apt-cache search headers | grep -e linux -e kernel
[06:14] <ThePub> klees: how'd you install your new kernel?  just download the .tar.gz and build from source?
[06:14] <klees> arrenlex: the latest kernel gives me better performance and gives me Abit uGuru support for hardware monitoring
[06:14] <klees> ThePub: yes
[06:14] <ski-worklap> what on earth is abit uguru?
[06:15] <klees> it's the chip my Abit AN7 motherboard swears by
[06:15] <meherenOS-X> could anyone help me with resetting my aim pass?
[06:15] <meherenOS-X> i don't have access to my alternate email... and ive forgotten my pass
[06:15] <meherenOS-X> how can i reset it?
[06:15] <ubox> bimberi-> anything more i should do?
[06:16] <noiesmo> does anyone know why http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/edgy-plf is unavailable
[06:16] <ski-worklap> meherenOS-X, wow everything about that is offtopic
[06:16] <ski-worklap> ask in #macosx, that will at least be closer
[06:16] <ThePub> klees: did you follow this method?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:16] <meherenOS-X> ski-worklap... yep :p but i have no where else to ask (that i know of)
[06:17] <bimberi> ubox: sorry, that setup is working for me so I'm not sure.  Can you actually ping smtp.gmail.com currently?
[06:17] <meherenOS-X> uum why would #macosx be closer just outa curiosity?
[06:17] <klees> ThePub: no
[06:17] <ThePub> klees: the end result would be proper debs for kernel installation, including headers, etc.. then you could pretty easily build any repo source package :)
[06:17] <klees> ThePub: i did create two deb packages  linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>_k7_i386.deb  linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>_k7_i386.deb
[06:17] <klees> and installed them
[06:17] <meherenOS-X> ski-worklap... besides people here are smart.... heh they might (if im lucky) know the answer
[06:17] <ubox> bimberi-> yep
[06:17] <klees> im under the custom kernel now
[06:19] <bimberi> ubox: hmm, i'm struggling now :|
[06:20] <ubun> what gnome tool should i use as an ftp client?
[06:20] <arrenlex> klees: You should definitely have usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.19-1-k7/include/linux/config.h. Do you?
[06:20] <ubun> filezilla?
[06:20] <klees> arrenlex: i don't
[06:20] <cybermad> do you know what is the best computer inventory for office? web based is ok.. there are OCS NG, phpinventory, phpinv, ZCI, etc  but i don't know which one recommended?
[06:20] <bimberi> ubun: nautilus, the file manager, via Places -> Connect to Server
[06:20] <ubun> oh yeah thanks
[06:21] <arrenlex> klees: Go through that headers package you installed and see if it had a config.h anywhere, I guess.
[06:21] <klees> arrenlex: not in that folder
[06:21] <arrenlex> klees: But anywhere?
[06:22] <klees> arrenlex: can i list what the deb package has?
[06:22] <arrenlex> klees: dpkg -L package
[06:22] <bimberi> ubox: Here ( http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13287 ) it says to use port 465 or 587 so try that (eg. smtp.gmail.com:465)
[06:22] <arrenlex> | grep  config.h, klees, for simplicity
[06:22] <ubox> oh ok thnks
[06:22] <klees> $ dpkg -L linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>_k7_i386.deb
[06:22] <klees> Package `linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>_k7_i386.deb' is not installed.
[06:22] <klees> hmmm
[06:23] <arrenlex> ...hmm indeed.
[06:23] <arrenlex> Oh. No.
[06:23] <arrenlex> That's a package name.
[06:23] <klees> arrenlex: honestly i did install it
[06:23] <klees> doing it right now
[06:23] <klees> again
[06:23] <arrenlex> klees: It's not a .deb, it's a package name. So dpkg -L linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>_k7
[06:23] <arrenlex> Or whatever its name was.
[06:24] <klees> $ dpkg -L linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>_k7_i386
[06:24] <klees> Package `linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>_k7_i386' is not installed.
[06:24] <arrenlex> try without the i386
[06:24] <klees> $ sudo dpkg -i linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>_k7_i386.deb
[06:24] <klees> Password:
[06:24] <klees> (Reading database ... 120124 files and directories currently installed.)
[06:24] <klees> Preparing to replace linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS> k7 (using linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>_k7_i386.deb) ...
[06:24] <klees> Unpacking replacement linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS> ...
[06:24] <klees> Setting up linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS> (k7) ...
[06:24] <klees> arrenlex: did that install it?
[06:25] <arrenlex> klees: Yes... but I've never seen a name like that before.
[06:25] <arrenlex> Oh. Nevermind.
[06:25] <arrenlex> klees: dpkg -L linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:25] <Buzzygirl> Hello!
[06:26] <arrenlex> !hi
[06:26] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:27] <_goofy_> i have a sata disk that i cant read.....it should be a ntfs partition and im running a live cd
[06:27] <klees> arrenlex: i get too many hits with that command
[06:27] <arrenlex> klees: | grep config.h
[06:27] <klees> i did
[06:28] <arrenlex> klees: And there are many matches? o_O
[06:28] <klees> i need it to be just config.h
[06:28] <klees> is returning config.hp etc
[06:29] <feryana> why If I try to zip a file, it skips files? I have a folder with 2484 archive it does only 1200 (tar.gz) or 2100 on zip?
[06:29] <ubun> how can i make so when i press 'alt' in nautilus it will activate a menu without me having to hold down the alt key?
[06:29] <_goofy_> i have a sata disk that i cant read but when i right click it says i have premission to read.....it should be a ntfs partition and im running a live cd
[06:30] <protocol1> is there a reason why I cant apt-get x-window-system-dev? or is it called something else in edgy?
[06:31] <crimsun_> !x-dev
[06:31] <ubotu> x-dev: dummy package for transition purposes. In component main, is optional. Version 7.0.7-1 (edgy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[06:31] <protocol1> its called x-dev
[06:31] <imoeth_lutcu> haiiiiiiiii
[06:32] <arrenlex> klees: Oh. | grep /config.h$
[06:32] <arrenlex> protocol1: xlibs-dev
[06:32] <SogniX> hi, there's something wrong with my server's DNS (reverse returns a SERVFAIL error), but I think that it's not logging any errors - all I see in /var/logs/messages is a "--MARK--" but nothing else. Any idea how to turn logging on or what my problem is?
[06:34] <klees> arrenlex: nothing returned
[06:34] <_goofy_> is there a disk ghosting software that will run inside of ubuntu
[06:35] <ubun> wine norton ghost?
[06:36] <arrenlex> klees: I got some hits. Your package does not contain a config.h
[06:36] <imoeth_lutcu> # semarang
[06:36] <RoKFiT> can anyone help me with some audio popping problems?
[06:36] <klees> arrenlex: how can i get that file?
[06:36] <arrenlex> klees: No idea; I've never compiled a custom kernel. = /
[06:37] <lars30> ubuntu no longer boots even from live cd...
[06:37] <protocol1> arrenlex, what is that for?
[06:37] <lars30> windows partition boots fine
[06:37] <lars30> ?
[06:37] <lars30> it just stops right after the bootstrap
[06:37] <arrenlex> protocol1: xlibs-dev? You asked "is there a reason why I cant apt-get x-window-system-dev? or is it called something else in edgy?"
[06:37] <lars30> last message is "boot kernel"
[06:38] <protocol1> oh ok
[06:38] <protocol1> thx
[06:38] <protocol1> I got it
[06:38] <lars30> I can't imagine why LiveCD doesn't run
[06:39] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, good evening
[06:39] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: Hiya.
[06:40] <bart_> somone has ubunt u64 bit ? and wine self compiled ?
[06:41] <arrenlex> bart_: I think you're going to find it very difficult to run wine on a 64-bit system, as it is in itself an emulator for 32-bit applications.
[06:41] <bart_> yeah it works without chroot
[06:41] <arrenlex> bart_: You can do it through 32-bit emulation...
[06:41] <bart_> but the language is wrong
[06:42] <arrenlex> Oh. *shrug* no idea.
[06:42] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, well, came home and had to reboot, but at least I got to try the synch, unmount, boot sequence.......
[06:42] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: Ah? xD
[06:42] <bart_> and theres no way to run it in my langauge ... i am trying 1 hour with winhq channel users
[06:43] <gary_> has anyone set up aiglx and beryl on dapper? I have it (finally!!!) and whenever i go to shut down or logout the scren freezes. any help?
[06:43] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, it appears I get no visual confirmation that the first two commands in the sequence were actually accomplished?
[06:43] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: Not in X. If you go to a console (ctrl+alt+f1) and do them you'll see the kernel prints messages. (press ctrl+alt+f7 to return to X)
[06:44] <Geoffrey2> ah, ok....that's the type of stuff I obviously still need to learn about.....
[06:45] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: Try it :) press ctrl+alt+f1 and then press alt+sysrq+s. It'll tell you it synced the systems.
[06:45] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, interestingly, I'd deliberately left absolutely nothing running on my desktop, and still came back to find the computer essentially locked up...it was running, but I couldn't get anything to start up
[06:46] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: Is this machine on a network? I'm curious as to whether it's possible to SSH into it in that state.
[06:47] <ibb> how do i find out what version os software i have, in the terminal, lets say what version of nfs i have
[06:47] <bimberi> arrenlex: cool tip! (alt+sysrq+s)
[06:48] <arrenlex> bimberi: It's not very useful by itself. alt+sysrq+k is useful (kills all processes running under you, often allows you to get your computer back if it froze) or alt+sysrq+s,u,b to sync, unmount and reboot in that order... the Linux three finger salute :)
[06:48] <bimberi> ibb: dpkg -l | grep nfs
[06:49] <tx22> I'm using chatzilla, but I don't know how to connect to another server?.. I want to just connect to one particular one but I don't know how, Thanks.
[06:50] <bimberi> arrenlex: nice, thanks
[06:50] <ibb> bimberi, i am using a redhat system
[06:50] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, lesse, I went to tty1, and the screen says 'jeffrey-laptop login: '
[06:50] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: Yes.  :) Show us a magic trick!
[06:52] <bimberi> arrenlex: ;)
[06:52] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, when I did the alt-sysrq-s, it displayed a message with the date stamp, followed by 'SysReq: Emergency Sync'
[06:53] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: Yep.  Awww.
[06:53] <arrenlex> Coochie coochie coo.
[06:53] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[06:53] <arrenlex> its *
[06:53] <kyawzin> Hi anybody knows how to point a subdomain using A record to point to the server with static IP address?
[06:53] <Geoffrey2> arrenlex, as long as it doesn't say something like "Good Morning Dave, I'm ready for my first lesson."
[06:54] <arrenlex> Geoffrey2: I hope not, since your name appears to be Geoffrey.
[06:54] <nod3> can someone tell what's the error: http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2498/dsc00406ln1.jpg
[06:54] <nod3> thanks
[06:54] <arrenlex> !ops
[06:54] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: ?
[06:55] <arrenlex> nod3's image.
[06:55] <nod3> screenshot
[06:55] <elkbuntu> arrenlex, we cant read 20 mins of backlog in seconds
[06:55] <Seveas> arrenlex, merci
[06:55] <Gandalf> guess im probably the only person in here who doesnt know how to use linux
[06:56] <SilentDis> and so ends this episode of "pictures of naughty bits by nod3" :D
[06:56] <preaction> has anyone installed Edgy on their MacBook Pro? it's taken 10 minutes to get "12%" of the kernel loaded from the Live CD. Is this normal?
[06:56] <SilentDis> Gandalf:  and that's why we're all here, to help :)
[06:57] <Geoffrey2> Gandalf, well, I'm using Ubuntu....I'm not sure if I really know HOW to use it, I just manage to get the darn thing to work....partially....sometimes.... :)
[06:57] <SilentDis> precation:  how much memory in the machine?
[06:57] <preaction> SilenceGold, 2 gig i believe
[06:57] <preaction> SilenceGold, the boss just kinda maxed the thing out
[06:57] <arrenlex> Gandalf: I'm not using ubuntu, but I hang out here to give people conflicting instructions and crack annoying jokes! :)
[06:57] <tx22> Guys, if I wanted to download a simple file off of the internet with wget and save it to a specific place, what is the actual command?.. Thanks in advance
[06:58] <arrenlex> tx22: wget http://whatever.com/file.zip -O/tmp/hello.zip
[06:58] <Gandalf> my girlfriends uncle built me a computer, and put mepis linux on it and i dont have the heart to tell him i dont know how to use it
[06:58] <SilentDis> preaction:  wow.  that's the most common cause of lockups.  I don't have much experience with mac hardware though.  sorry :(
[06:58] <tx22> arrenlex:  thanks a lot.
[06:58] <Geoffrey2> Gandalf, you see, arrenlex stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night :)
[06:58] <preaction> SilentDis, because it has too much memory? wtf
[06:59] <SilentDis> preaction:  no no lol.  I 'wow'ed at the amount.  on a laptop that's awesome lol.  i am not sure what could be causing it otherwise.
[07:00] <ubuntu> Hi..
[07:00] <preaction> SilentDis, i guess i just wait it out :p
[07:00] <ubuntu> i am installing grub..
[07:00] <tx22> arrenlex:  I'm using windows currently, so for example it would be 'wget http://www.sdf.com/sdf.zip -Oc:/ ?
[07:00] <ubuntu> root (hd0,6) what does tat 0 and 6 referes to
[07:00] <SilentDis> preaction:  does the machine appear frozen?
[07:00] <preaction> SilentDis, no, every few minutes another 4% gets loaded
[07:01] <arrenlex> tx22: For starters, how'd you manage to get wget on windows? cygwin?
[07:01] <Geoffrey2> I really, really, wanna go pretty much Windows free...but first I need to get the hiccups out of Ubuntu on my system, and that's taking a while
[07:01] <preaction> it appeared frozen before, so this time i decided to try waiting
[07:01] <arrenlex> tx22: And if so, no idea. Doesn't cygwin use its own directory structure?
[07:01] <tx22> arrenlex:  it is available under windows
[07:01] <ubuntu> hello some one help me out
[07:01] <ubuntu> root (hd0,6) what does tat 0 and 6 referes to
[07:01] <ubuntu> ???
[07:01] <arrenlex> tx22: Really. Then ... try it I guess? But you need a whole filename on that -O switch.
[07:01] <preaction> SilentDis, the worst thing is I can't hear the CD drive spinning at all. I think it's going at less than 1x atm... bad CD perhaps?
[07:01] <SilentDis> ubuntu:  hard disk 0, partition 6 it sounds like.
[07:02] <arrenlex> tx22: Or else use -P for only a directory.
[07:02] <tx22> arrenlex:  ok thanks
[07:02] <arrenlex> ubuntu: (hd0,6) means the 7th partition of the first drive.
[07:02] <SilentDis> preaction:  that's about the only thing I can think of... as I said, i don't have much knowledge of mac hardware architecture.
[07:03] <preaction> SilentDis, nor i, i'll just keep going and see what happens
[07:03] <SilentDis> preaction:  PPC chip or Intel chip?
[07:03] <ubuntu> arrenlex, i ve lost my grub.. so now how to install..
[07:03] <SilentDis> !grub | ubuntu
[07:03] <ubotu> ubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:03] <ubuntu> arrenlex, i have linux on hda8
[07:03] <preaction> SilentDis, Macbooks are intel
[07:03] <preaction> ubuntu, then you want (hd0,7)
[07:03] <SilentDis> preaction:  again, shows how much I know rofl
[07:03] <arrenlex> ubuntu: in /boot/grub/menu.lst make sure groot is set to (hd0,7).
[07:04] <Ash-Fox> !package
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <arrenlex> ubuntu: then run sudo update-grub to make sure all your kernels are current, and run sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[07:04] <valehru> HEy guys, I accidentially dropped an entire database in phpmyadmin, is there anyway of recovering it?  seriously in panic mode right now...the comp hasnt been rebooted nor have any new tables or queries been made
[07:04] <ubuntu> arrenlex, /dev/hda ?
[07:04] <ubuntu> should i give any no there!!
[07:05] <arrenlex> ubuntu: Assuming you want to install grub to the MBR of the first drive, yes, install it to /dev/hda.
[07:05] <ubuntu> arrenlex, i mean no need to specify any numbers!
[07:05] <Gunny> Hey fellas. Do you know why 'apt-get install sendmail' doesn't work. Doesn't aptitude have sendmail as a standard pkg?
[07:05] <SilentDis> valehru:  if it was in the web-based script thingy... i think it's dead, jim.
[07:05] <arrenlex> ubuntu: When you install grub, no. In the grub configuration file, yes.
[07:05] <rredd4> using dapper, grub will not load (sometimes it does).  sometimes have to reboot a lot to get it to work.  reinstall or what?
[07:05] <SilentDis> !info sendmail
[07:05] <preaction> Gunny, try apt-cache search sendmail
[07:05] <ubotu> sendmail: powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.13.8-2 (edgy), package size 191 kB, installed size 248 kB
[07:06] <valehru> SilenceDis, yeah, it was in phpmyadmin
[07:06] <pkh_> does anyone know the location of a how-to for installing aiglz/beryl on feisty?
[07:06] <Gunny> I don't see 'sendmail' in there. JJust exim, postfix, and the sendmail perl module...
[07:06] <SilentDis> phk_:  I just saw a post on that on planet ubuntu... one moment.
[07:06] <ToastBusters> Hey guys, I'm having a problem with my display. I have a dual  monitor setup, and on one of the screens, there is a vertical bar that is outside the normal viewing area. The monitor is auto-aligning to include this, which means that entire section of the screen is unusable.
[07:07] <Gunny> I'm running the latest Edgy server
[07:07] <SilentDis> phk_: http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com/people/mgalvin/?p=12
[07:07] <pkh_> SilentDis, awesome, thanks
[07:08] <jb0nd38372> Is there a way to edit screensaver prefrences in edgy, I know the default screensaver dameon has no visible way to set prefs, just wondering if there was some type of option to enable them
[07:08] <SilentDis> phk_: Liferea is my friend :)
[07:08] <ToastBusters> anyone?
[07:09] <SilentDis> jb0nd38372:  not sure... i remember seeing a post about using xscreensaver package with a particular setup to change the options under dapper... no idea if something like that would work under edgy.   :(
[07:10] <Gunny> I havn't made a server from debian in a while, and I'm used to Gentoo now which has every package under the sun
[07:10] <Gunny> SUrprised if Ubuntu doesn't have sendmail...
[07:10] <SilentDis> ToastBusters:  i haven't setup dual monitors yet, and haven't seen something like that.  not to say this room can't help, though.  give it a few minutes for others to pop in, and ask again :)
[07:10] <ToastBusters> Okay, I'll ask again in a bit
[07:10] <jb0nd38372> SilentDis: yeah I saw on ubuntu forums had a post to instalkl the xscreensaver dameon and disable the gnome one, I dont mind doing that, just didn't want to use any extra memory or resources if possible
[07:11] <rredd4> grub help please...
[07:11] <SilentDis> !grub | rredd4
[07:11] <ubotu> rredd4: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:11] <SilentDis> Gunny:  it's in the Email (universe) repository
[07:12] <nnutter> I am unfamiliar with the current state of Xorg and dual displays. I have a laptop with Intel 945GM chipset. I want to use Beryl if possible and be able to hook my laptop up to a TV or projector for movies/presentations. What might be the best way to do this? I have heard you can do two displays in X, also I have heard of Xinerama, Twinhead, mergefb, but I don't know what all the differences are.
[07:12] <SilentDis> gunny:  so, you shouldn't have to muck with sources.list... not sure why it's not showing up for you
[07:12] <rredd4> SilenDis  ty, should i reinstall grub, will only load sometimes.  I did not load windows afterwards
[07:12] <SilentDis> rredd4:  depends on what the problem is.  what happened?
[07:13] <SilentDis> rredd4:  so, sometimes your box brings up the grub bootloader, sometimes it gives you some sort of error?
[07:13] <rredd4> SilenDis  I am not sure what caused it,  no error
[07:13] <Gunny> k, I'll fiddle
[07:13] <rredd4> just won't load
[07:13] <rredd4> blank screen
[07:13] <cld2> anyone know how to get the ipw2200 intel wlan card working? do i just install wireless-tools and copy the firmware from /lib/firmware/uname to /lib/firmware ?
[07:14] <rredd4> SilentDis other times it works great... hit and miss
[07:14] <SilentDis> rredd4:  you said it works intermittantly.  what happens when it doesn't work?  just a blank screen or some such?
[07:14] <rredd4> yes
[07:14] <rredd4> blank
[07:14] <arrenlex> rredd4: When that happens, does grub even load?
[07:15] <rredd4> SilentDis just before the grub menu loads, no grub does not load
[07:15] <rredd4> it is now that way
[07:15] <SilentDis> rredd4:  hmm... IDE timeout or some other strange weirdness?  no idea really, sorry :(
[07:15] <rredd4> I am on my laptop
[07:15] <rredd4> SilentDis was going to reinstall grub with the alternate cd..
[07:16] <rredd4> thought there might be something else
[07:16] <rredd4> ty
[07:16] <max_> does anyone know of a program that can download mulpiple links off a webpage? (picture links off fourms)?
[07:16] <SilentDis> rredd4:  that can't hurt. not sure what to suggest...
[07:16] <rredd4> SilentDis  maybe when I changed to CE edition?
[07:16] <arrenlex> max_: If you use firefox, you can use the downloadthemall extension.
[07:17] <SilentDis> max_:  you're looking for wget
[07:17] <SilentDis> !wget | max_
[07:17] <ubotu> wget: retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.10.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 226 kB, installed size 1952 kB
[07:17] <bkudria> i want to use the horizonatl titl feature on the wheel of my logitech mx610 mouse, and all the guides say to use evdev.  however, anythign i try causes X to crash.  my xorg.conf file, and the error output is here: http://pastebin.ca/279672 Can anyone shed any light on the problem?
[07:17] <arrenlex> max_: Sorry, that's "downthemall"
[07:17] <SilentDis> max_:  do man wget from a prompt, and check out all the pretty examples at the bottom, wget is really easy to use :)
[07:17] <max_> SilentDis: is wget the same as kget for kubuntu?
[07:17] <SilentDis> !kget
[07:17] <ubotu> kget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 431 kB, installed size 1176 kB
[07:17] <arrenlex> max_: Wget is a command line app.
[07:18] <arrenlex> max_: Functionally, however, they are both download managers.
[07:18] <max_> ok, thanks
[07:18] <SilentDis> max_:  i'm going to assume kget is a frontend to it or some such.
[07:18] <rredd4> is there a way to avoid having to go through the disk format routine on the alternate cd to reinstall grub?
[07:18] <Gunny> SilentDis: Oops, forgott to uncomment universe repos
[07:18] <Gunny> Thanks :P
[07:18] <arrenlex> SilentDis: Why not? :( KDE is life.
[07:19] <SilentDis> arrenlex:  i'm on dialup (no other options available to my corner of bumfsck, nowhere), and the download is 30mb or so (glad I picked up both ubuntu and kubuntu DVDs from amazon at least :P)
[07:20] <SilentDis> gunny:  yay, you're an apt-get update and apt-get install sendmail away then :)
[07:20] <arrenlex> SilentDis: If you have the kubuntu DVD you can use apt-cdrom to mount it as a repository and use it to install kde packages.
[07:20] <Gunny> Yeah, I did :D
[07:20] <SilentDis> arrenlex:  already did that ;)  when I apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, it'll need to grab all the updates (which i've already done for ubuntu), which totals to 30mb.
[07:21] <arrenlex> SilentDis: Well you don't really NEED updates... they're mostly bugfixes I'm assuming.
[07:21] <SilentDis> arrenlex:  it's just a matter of time before I decide to do it whilst i sleep sometime rofl
[07:21] <Gunny> Hey, quick question while I'm here. I've opted to use the 32bit ubuntu edgy server on my new 1U box. It has 4GB of memory. Am I going to run into issues?
[07:21] <SilentDis> arrenlex:  or, more likely, when i'm at work :)
[07:22] <Gunny> or should I really be using the 64bit version
[07:22] <Gunny> (Core 2 Duo)
[07:22] <SilentDis> Gunny:  shouldn't have an issue.  from what I keep hearing, the 64 bit versions tend to end up being a bit more trouble than the performance boost is worth :P
[07:22] <cafuego_> Gunny: You'll be fine.
[07:22] <ToastBusters> I'm having a problem with my display. I have a dual  monitor setup, and on one of the screens, there is a vertical bar that is outside the normal viewing area. The monitor is auto-aligning to include this, which means that entire section of the screen is unusable. The second display doesn't seem to be having any issues though, and I'm using nvidia proprietary driver. (not sure if the fact that I'm using two displays is even related to the problem)
[07:23] <Gunny> Some OS's can have trouble at 4GB since that's the 32bit limit
[07:23] <cafuego_> Gunny: yes, but Linux is less retarded than most other OSes in that regard :-)
[07:23] <Gunny> Yes, I know :)
[07:23] <Gunny> It supports both quite well
[07:24] <cafuego_> Gunny: The 64bit version would theoretically give you better performance on computing intensive tasks
[07:24] <cafuego_> Gunny: say large sql queries, that kind of stuff
[07:24] <Gunny> Yeah
[07:24] <Gunny> It'll be an apache/mysql box
[07:24] <SilentDis> gunny:  do i dare ask how large?
[07:24] <Gunny> FOr hordes of users
[07:24] <Gunny> Looking for 1000 concurrent
[07:24] <SilentDis> gunny:  ahhh lol
[07:24] <Gunny> DB is 700MB with no users :o
[07:25] <cafuego_> SilentDis: 64bit in the dame way an Athlon64 is :-)
[07:25] <Gunny> And it's going to be 700KM (7 hour) drive away
[07:25] <SilentDis> i so badly need to build a new 'puter lol
[07:25] <Gunny> So it needs to be rock hard
[07:25] <bioticpro> I just moved a drive from A to B location, changed lilo and fstab, but the block devices all are still called hdb#, can I just rename them, or do I have to remake them?
[07:25] <bioticpro> I mean from B to A
[07:25] <cafuego_> SilentDis: I built a nice core 2 duo for my wife last week
[07:25] <arrenlex> Gunny: There's some imagery I've never associated with computers.
[07:25] <kuto> hi all
[07:25] <cafuego_> SilentDis: surprisingly cheap
[07:25] <kuto> w00t
[07:25] <Gunny> Yeah
[07:26] <SilentDis> cafuego_:  i'm limping along on an Athlon XP 1900+ here :P
[07:26] <cafuego_> SilentDis: this one is replacing an athlon2400+
[07:26] <arrenlex> model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+
[07:26] <Gunny> This 1U server was only $1500CND ($1300USD)
[07:26] <SilentDis> cafuego_:  wouldn't be so bad, actually... if it wasn't sitting on a VIA chipset mobo (abit kr7a).  linux brings to the forefront all the little instabilities of this board :P
[07:26] <Gunny> And it's 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo with 4GB of DDR2-800 and 350GB RAID-1
[07:26] <Gunny> With case
[07:27] <cafuego_> SilentDis: Hmmyeah... I preferred my kt400 mobo (but that caught fire)
[07:27] <LookTJ> Where is a site that recommend hardware for Linux because I'm planning on building myself a pc
[07:27] <SilentDis> lol!
[07:27] <Gunny> Annoying thing is I had to install Egdy
[07:27] <ThePub> LookTJ: just buy a mac :D
[07:27] <Gunny> Edgy, instead of LTS
[07:27] <kuto> k00lies
[07:27] <LookTJ> ThePub: why a mac?
[07:27] <Gunny> Edgy doesn't support most of the new COre 2 Motherboards
[07:27] <tombow> speaking of racks, are there any cheap small racks (4 to 8u)?
[07:28] <Gunny> Erm, LTS I mean
[07:28] <SilentDis> LookTJ:  the only things you really have to worry about is 1-nvidia graphics card (way easier, is all), 1gb+ ram, decent hd.  everything else should be exceptionally close to 'just works' :)
[07:28] <ThePub> LookTJ: unixy goodness, more consistent desktop experience :D
[07:28] <cafuego_> SilentDis: http://www.cafuego.net/pix/melty_kahlua.png
[07:28] <Gunny> tombow: Where are you located?
[07:28] <Gunny> Or do you care?
[07:28] <cafuego_> oh sorry, it's in /, not in /pix
[07:28] <SilentDis> cafuego_:  404
[07:29] <SilentDis> cafuego_: got it :)
[07:29] <SilentDis> cafuego_:  how did you do that rofl
[07:29] <Gunny> You can get a 22U rack for $325 a month where I host
[07:29] <LookTJ> ThePub: recommend me a mac because I'm not familer with Macs.
[07:29] <cafuego_> SilentDis: shitty PSU
[07:29] <Gunny> with 500GB/m
[07:29] <SilentDis> cafuego_:  worst I ever did was leaving an int modem plugged into my P75 and it taking a strike.  I was able to trace PCI paths from the black etchings hehe
[07:29] <Gunny> $145 for 4U
[07:30] <Gunny> And $69 for 1U
[07:30] <cafuego_> SilentDis: <heh>
[07:30] <Gunny> Same bandwidth (which is dumb)
[07:31] <SilentDis> cafuego_: ok, what brand PSU, so I know to stay way the hell away from that brand when I buy?  rofl
[07:31] <cafuego_> SilentDis: noname oem
[07:31] <kuto> hi all
[07:31] <cafuego_> AVOID!!!
[07:31] <Gunny> PSU is one of the most important parts
[07:31] <Gunny> Never cheap out
[07:31] <LookTJ> ThePub: What kind of mac should I get?
[07:31] <Gunny> Most computer stability issues are because of bad power flow from a PSU
[07:31] <ThePub> LookTJ: modtly kidding :)
[07:32] <SilentDis> cafuego_: ah yes, i stay away from most all no-name stuff, so no worries there :)
[07:32] <Gunny> Antec and Enermax are usually a good bet
[07:32] <LookTJ> ThePub: you confused me
[07:32] <Gunny> PSU's are getting retarded now
[07:32] <Gunny> There are 1KW PSU's out now
[07:32] <harry> is there a media player in ubuntu that supports MKV files?
[07:32] <Gunny> Can you say "I need utilities included!"
[07:32] <SilentDis> gunny:  I was actually gonna go Antec for case/psu.  still debating over intel/amd for my processor though.  cooling has always been my sticking point... so I'm leaning intel right now :P
[07:33] <arrenlex> harry: Which are what, exactly?
[07:33] <Gunny> Intel is faster, cheaper, and it runs cold
[07:33] <cafuego_> matroska; embedded streams with some metadata
[07:33] <Gunny> I was an AMD fanboy until the Core 2 Duos
[07:33] <cafuego_> Gunny: My amd64 actually runs cooler than the core 2 duo
[07:33] <Gunny> I put 2 instances of CPUBurn on my box for 2 hours
[07:33] <Gunny> Touched the heatsink, and it was cold
[07:33] <Gunny> Really?
[07:34] <Gunny> AMD's are usually heat whores
[07:34] <cafuego_> Gunny: yup!
[07:34] <SilentDis> gunny:  was also thinking of doing the whole 'near-silent pc' thing and getting a watercool system... still to expensive though :P
[07:34] <Gunny> Musta fixed it recently
[07:34] <harry> arrenlex: i mean. i downloaded a movie and the file extension is .mkv, i could play it in mplayer but there is no subs
[07:34] <cafuego_> Gunny: Not the A64 range, not at all.
[07:34] <bioticpro> Can anybody help with explaining how to change block devices?
[07:34] <Gunny> HO well do they overclock?
[07:34] <arrenlex> harry: Oh, so you're not actually looking to play that file, but subtitles?
[07:34] <Gunny> I have a friend that got his Core 2 Duo over 5GHz per core (stable)
[07:34] <cafuego_> Gunny: no idea, I prefer to not blow stuff up or set it on fire.
[07:35] <Gunny> Me neither, but that says something about heat though
[07:35] <harry> arrenlex: as i said, it runs on mplayer, i could watch the movie, but there are no subtitles
[07:35] <arrenlex> harry: Never used subtitles in mplayer, sorry.
[07:35] <bioticpro> harry, have you tried VLC player?
[07:35] <harry> bioticpro: havent
[07:36] <SilentDis> er, boss
[07:36] <arrenlex> SilentDis: That's not allowed. You have to follow the IRC rules.
[07:36] <SilentDis> ?
[07:36] <kling0n> harry: rename the subtitle file to the same filename as the movie file (except the extension.. that should be srt or whatever) and try again
[07:36] <bioticpro> harry, I always try that if mplayer and xine don't do what I want
[07:36] <arrenlex> SilentDis: Chapter 5, Section 9: On IRC, the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents.
[07:36] <kling0n> harry: or load the sub file manually
[07:37] <SilentDis> O.O
[07:37] <Gunny> Haha
[07:37] <SilentDis> my deepest apologies for disclosing my gender here *hides*
[07:37] <Gunny> Did you ever see that real life chat video?
[07:37] <harry> bioticpro: you try to run it on VLC?
[07:37] <harry> kling0n: there is no subtitle file
[07:38] <SilentDis> does it help that I'm currently listening to the Mighty Mighty Bosstones version of "Sweet Emotion"?
[07:38] <kling0n> harry well, thats you problem then isn't it?
[07:38] <kling0n> *your*
[07:38] <gdb> I'm curious, if you remove a repository from apt's list, is there a command you can run to remove any and all packages that are not longer available?
[07:38] <SilentDis> gdb:  yep:  sudo apt-get update :)
[07:38] <bioticpro> harry, I don't know the file you are doing, try yourself
[07:38] <harry> kling0n: i only have the .mkv itself. whenever i play it on mkv player on windows there are subtitles
[07:38] <kling0n> harry: hmm
[07:39] <gdb> SilentDis: No, I mean remove / purge the unavilable packages from your system, not from apt's package cache.
[07:39] <kling0n> harry: http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/source.html
[07:39] <gdb> For example, say I add a rep for foo, and then install foo.  I then deconfigure the foo repo, is there a generic command that will remove foo because it's no longer available, without specifically removing it by name?
[07:40] <kling0n> you should be able to specify subtitle index on cmdline
[07:40] <kling0n> harry: if you're using gmplayer, you should be able to right-click on the movie window and select subtitle track
[07:40] <kuto> w00t
[07:41] <ubox> i get error msg whne trying to send mail from evolution
[07:41] <ubox> *when
[07:41] <ubox> recieving is not a problem
[07:41] <ootput> !beryl
[07:41] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:42] <kling0n> ubox have you configured evolution to use local sendmail? or an external smtp?
[07:42] <ootput> sorry, should've done that in a priv message
[07:42] <ubox> klingOn: so i have to start smtp on my machine?
[07:43] <ubox> klingOn: it is configured to use an external smtp?
[07:43] <ubox> klingOn: it is configured to use an external smtp!
[07:43] <kling0n> ubox: not necessarily... but if you've configured evolution to send through local sendmail and it isn't running, then that is your problem... you can then wither choose to re-configure it to use your ISP smtp server or chekc that sendmail is installed and running
[07:44] <coolsail> excuse everyone, how i can install the chinese english dictionary to my os ubuntu?
[07:44] <ubox> klingOn: i have configured using external smtp
[07:44] <Geoffrey2> oh, is there any command that would tell me if my video card supports things like OpenGL?
[07:45] <ubox> klingOn: Host lookup failed: smtp.gmail.com : Name or service not known
[07:45] <LookTJ> what are the chances of someone helping me with installing jdk 6?
[07:45] <kling0n> !language-support-zh|coolsail
[07:45] <ubotu> language-support-zh: metapackage for Chinese language support. In component main, is optional. Version 1:6.06+20060529 (edgy), package size 2 kB, installed size 40 kB
[07:46] <kling0n> ubox it sounds like you have different issues then :)
[07:46] <kling0n> ubotu: check your /etc/resolv.conf
[07:46] <ubotu> check: unit test framework for C. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.3-2 (edgy), package size 64 kB, installed size 304 kB
[07:46] <kling0n> ubox: check your /etc/resolv.conf
[07:46] <ubox> klingOn: oh ok , no my dns are fully working
[07:48] <pwuertz> hi, is there a way to update gnome on edgy to a newer version? are there any repositories?
[07:48] <pwuertz> edgys gnome version is too buggy
[07:48] <cafuego_> And you think a newer unstable version would have LESS bugs?
[07:49] <pwuertz> gnome 2.16 is stable, right?
[07:49] <cafuego_> MS says Windows 98 is stable ;-)
[07:49] <pwuertz> cafuego: 2.16.1 is used in edgy.... why do you think the gnome guys released 2.16.3 ?
[07:49] <cafuego_> 2.16.1 has some oddities, but seems okay from where I'm sitting.
[07:50] <medic30420> why not just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[07:50] <cafuego_> pwuertz: You could try Feisty, or backport the feisty packages...
[07:50] <cafuego_> but I doubt you'll get improved stability
[07:50] <pwuertz> yea... i could... but I asked if there is a known way to improve stability on edgy
[07:50] <pwuertz> like adding a repository
[07:51] <cafuego_> pwuertz: "unlikely"
[07:52] <pwuertz> i got 2 bugs that hurt... 1st... edgy is unable to print certain png files because they are getting all black when converting to postscript
[07:52] <medic30420> pwuertz, i upgraded to edgy, didn't like it because of the gnome issues (at least i think that is where the bugs lie) and then downgraded back to dapper, very happy now
[07:52] <somerville32> medic30420, How do you "downgrade"?
[07:52] <pwuertz> 2nd... gstreamer - gnomevfs doesnt work with smb anymore... worked in dapper
[07:53] <kling0n> pwuertz: works for me
[07:54] <medic30420> well, for me I actually copied my /home/ folder to another harddisk, wiped everthing, and installed dapper, mounting the backup of home under another folder and copied everything i needed
[07:54] <pwuertz> kling0n, its a unresolved bug in edgy... maybe you are using another player
[07:54] <kling0n> pwuertz: i use mainly totem and mplayer and try to stay on xine backends
[07:54] <medic30420> i wanted to install tripwire anyways
[07:54] <kling0n> pwuertz: so you might be right :)
[07:54] <pwuertz> i know :)
[07:55] <kling0n> pwuertz: I ended up mounting as CIFS  in stead of over smb though
[07:55] <pwuertz> to be more specific... its a bug in gnome that is resolved in a later gnome version
[07:55] <pwuertz> kling0n, i dont like mounting network shares... its unsafe and a bad concept
[07:56] <kling0n> not with cifs and IPSEC :)
[07:56] <kling0n> pwuertz: still working on the IPSEC though :)
[07:56] <pwuertz> with unsafe I mean: mount a network share... use it.... unplug the network... and your whole cifs/smb subsystem dies
[07:56] <pwuertz> you cannot unmount the dead shares
[07:57] <pwuertz> and several programs will freeze forever because they might try to access the folder
[07:57] <pwuertz> like "mount" or "df"
[07:57] <cr4ftyb0n35> Hello all. A general question. I have a serial device, to which I need to send certain bytes to. How would I do this? I've tried minicom, I've tried catting, but somehow it isn't going through
[07:58] <pwuertz> or just a nautilus trying to collect informations about mounted media
[07:58] <upshs01> upshs01join
[07:59] <Gunny> http://www.thatvideosite.com/video/3646
[07:59] <Gunny> Haha <3 patrick stewart
[07:59] <Flannel> !offtopic | Gunny
[07:59] <ubotu> Gunny: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:59] <kling0n> pwuertz: my shares don't die )
[08:00] <Gunny> :P, okay later ;)
[08:00] <kling0n> pwuertz: and CIFS will recover even if something times out
[08:00] <pmcnabb> cr4ftyb0n35, kermit is another good program
[08:01] <pwuertz> kling0n, well not for me... so you see its unstable
[08:01] <cr4ftyb0n35> pmc: something just doesn't work. Is there a way I can check traffic over the serial port?
[08:01] <cr4ftyb0n35> pmc: I tried kermit I believe...
[08:01] <pmcnabb> usually when someone has trouble it's because the wrong device is selected
[08:02] <pwuertz> kling0n, also... sometimes you cant unmount shares because they are "in use" and you cant determine why
[08:02] <pmcnabb> or for some reason there's restrictive permissions on the right device
[08:03] <pmcnabb> cr4fty, i'm looking for my config file...
[08:04] <pmcnabb> i've used it on some switches recently
[08:05] <surekha> I installed sun java =>   sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[08:05] <pmcnabb> cr4ftyb0n35, what device do you have selected?
[08:05] <surekha> when i run   sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun to set the default java version
[08:06] <ootput> hi guys, which log file in /var/log/ does dmesg actually send to stdout?
[08:06] <ootput> I'm trying to 'tail' the output
[08:07] <Myria> what is RPC error 101 when trying to use NFS?