[08:43] <Caesar> slangasek: I found the problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/381753
[08:46] <billisnice> what is up with jerky youtube in full screen mode? I did not get this with 8.04.
[10:26] <snadge> how do i force distcc on x86_64 to build with -m32 ?
[10:28] <snadge> stuff it, i'll use a 32bit chroot its too annoying to figure it out
[10:38] <quadrispro> hi! I tried to upload some pkgs, but I received this: "Connection failed, aborting. Check your network [Errno 111] Connection refused"
[10:39] <quadrispro> anyone can help me?
[10:41] <TheMuso> quadrispro: It could be a result of the launchpad downtime, in that they forgot to bring up the ftp server for uploads. You should check with the launchpad folks in #launchpad to be sure.
[10:41] <TheMuso> I can't think of anything else that could be the problem.
[10:43] <quadrispro> thanks TheMuso
[10:45] <askand> Is it possible that the compiler in Jaunty has changed in a way that does not play nice with my hardware, and therefore I get >10 different apps segfaulting for me every hour compared to Intrepid where that never happened.
[10:45] <askand> Or is this far-fetched?
[10:47] <TheMuso> askand: You've checked that your hardware is ok, i.e run an earlier distro version, run memtest, etc?
[10:48] <askand> TheMuso: Yep, it was the same hardware as in Intrepid and I ran memtest for 24 hours without errors
[10:48] <askand> I find it hard to believe that all these apps suddenly have become extremly crashy since Intrepid.
[10:59] <TheMuso> Well I have no idea I'm sorry
[11:00] <askand> TheMuso: Ok, neither do I :( Anyone else in here have an idea?
[11:01] <jussi01> askand: is it an upgrade or a clean install?
[11:02] <askand> jussi01: clean install
[11:02] <jussi01> hrm, Ive seen issues from users on upgrades...
[11:02] <jussi01> no idea from me either.
[11:03] <askand> thnks anyway :)
[11:05] <jussi01> oh askand, I assume of course you checked md5 of the iso etc?
[11:05] <askand> yep :)
[11:05] <TheMuso> jussi01: If the md5 was wrong, I think things wouldn't have installed properly/the squashfs filesystem would have thrown errors on the live CD, assumging a live CD was used.
[11:06] <ghindo> Where are all the documents on gobby.ubuntu.com?  I thought a bunch of documents were supposed to be up from UDS, but I'm not seeing anything.
[11:06] <askand> ghindo: have you installed gobby?
[11:06] <ghindo> askand: Yes.
[11:07]  * TheMuso checks the server.
[11:08] <ghindo> I'm probably just overlooking something, but I wanted to double-check
[11:08] <ghindo> :p
[11:08] <TheMuso> seems fine here
[11:08] <TheMuso> I can see many a document on the server.
[12:14] <stefanlsd> upload.ubuntu.com ftp seems to be down. Anyone able to check?
[12:36] <elmo> stefanlsd: fixed
[12:58] <stefanlsd> elmo: thanks!
[17:21] <raboof> which package contains the default /etc/group? (dpkg -S and apt-file aren't helping yet)
[17:22] <infinity> raboof: base-passwd
[17:22] <ion_> grep /etc/group /var/lib/dpkg/info/*inst (and now please read the topic)
[17:23] <infinity> ion_: Haha.  Nice.  That exposed a "grep that should be a getent" bug over here. :)
[17:24] <ion_> infinity: Noticed two myself. :-)
[17:24] <ion_> sysklogd and icecc
[17:26] <infinity> Oh well.  I vaguely recall a "make sysklogd go die" session somewhere in the blur that is the last week.
[17:27] <infinity> So, maybe I'll just ignore it and carry on with my day.
[17:28] <ion_> I wasn’t fortunate enough to attend UDS, but i did skim through all the interesting specs (read: most of them) linked from the schedule. :-)
[17:29] <infinity> ion_: Hey, I was there, and I don't remember what most of them were, so you'e doing better than me. :)
[17:29] <ion_> Hehe
[17:29] <infinity> (To be fair, I remember most of the ones I participated in, at least)
[17:30] <infinity> I suppose this is why we take extensive notes.
[17:31] <infinity> So, when someone says "Hey Adam, you remember that stellar idea you had for the installer turning people's computers into paperweights?", they can back it up with evidence.
[17:31] <ion_> :-)
[17:35] <marcosRz> thanks for you guys for interfering into X project and turning into shit
[17:35] <marcosRz> fuck ubuntu
[17:38] <azeem> marcosRz: this is an development channel
[17:38] <marcosRz> ubuntu devs interefed on the X project causing them to disable ctrl alt backspace
[17:38] <marcosRz> for the n00bs
[17:39] <azeem> whatever, this is off-topic here
[17:39] <marcosRz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgCtrlAltBackspace/Discussion
[17:39] <azeem> I am sure you are smart enough to patch that back in
[17:39] <marcosRz> see
[17:39] <marcosRz> :P Actually the disabled dontzap
[17:39] <marcosRz> *they
[17:39] <hyperair> please take this up with the people in #ubuntu-x
[17:39] <hyperair> this is not the right channel.
[17:39] <marcosRz> thanks
[17:40] <jussi01> marcosRz: and please, watch the language
[17:40] <marcosRz> I just so pissed that ubuntu is interferring in all open source projects
[17:40] <marcosRz> I dont have anything against ubuntu, only the with the devs that made this interference
[17:40] <infinity> marcosRz: We're not "interfering", we're customizing for our users.
[17:41] <infinity> marcosRz: And please be civil.
[17:41] <marcosRz> this interference propagates on all project that use X
[17:43] <infinity> marcosRz: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-enable-ctrl-alt-backspace-in-ubuntu-jaunty.html
[17:43] <infinity> marcosRz: And, again, we didn't "interfere" with anything, we didn't force upstream to take the change (like we could), the hostility is not needed.
[17:43] <marcosRz> infinity, actually the current X has disabled the dontzap trick, thats why I'm pissed
[17:44] <marcosRz> I'm running Arch and they disabled the dontzap feature, so we cant restart X by ctrl-alt-bkspce
[17:45] <marcosRz> infinity, http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=73064&p=2
[17:45] <azeem> marcosRz: so ask the arch guys to fix this
[17:45] <azeem> this is off-topic here
[17:45] <ion_> What’s wrong with exiting X the normal way anyway? :-P
[17:45] <marcosRz> azeem, I know we already did it a patch, but I'm pissed that this utility feature will not be available by default into most linux distros, and this is due to protect the newbies
[17:46] <azeem> marcosRz: I think you've been told enough times now that this is off-topic
[17:46] <marcosRz> ok
[18:35] <cockroach> hi. no idea whether this is the right place to ask, but i'll try: i am maintaining a debian package (not in debian yet) using cdbs with pysupport. this works fine on debian but apparently not on ubuntu (a user just sent me this: http://yfrog.com/1566939906p) - any idea?
[18:35] <cockroach> (packaging files can be found at http://episoder.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/episoder/debian/)
[18:37] <pochu> cockroach: did he tried to install the Debian package directly, without rebuilding it in an Ubuntu environment?
[18:38] <cockroach> pochu: yes, afaik
[18:38] <pochu> it could be that it was built using a recent pysupport version in Debian, that is not compatible with his pysupport
[18:38] <pochu> but that's just a guess
[18:39] <cockroach> interesting point, didn't think of that. it was built on debian testing, i'll have a look at the changelog...
[18:40] <azeem> cockroach: Debian packages should not be installed on Ubuntu and vice-versa, really
[18:40] <cockroach> azeem: i figured a python package should work since it's not compiled & stuff :)
[18:41] <cockroach> azeem: but i guess i'll have to create an ubuntu pbuilder environment and create *proper* ubuntu package...
[18:41] <cockroach> (*a* proper package, even)
[18:43] <pochu> does your package depend on ${python:Depends} ?
[18:44] <cockroach> pochu: no, only ${misc:Depends} (and some hard-coded ones)
[18:44] <pochu> so that's your bug
[18:44] <pochu> see man dh_pysupport
[18:45] <cockroach> pochu: oh, indeed. thanks!
[18:45] <pochu> anyway, it's not a good idea to install packages built on different environments
[18:45] <pochu> yw
[18:46] <pochu> btw, if you want to get your package in Debian, there's #debian-python on OFTC (when it's in Debian it will reach Ubuntu too)
[18:49] <cockroach> pochu: ah nice, i'll talk to them. i sort of doubt that anyone is going to sponsor this, but asking can't hurt :)
[20:31] <ion_> Google Wave seems like an awesome tool. You know how people edit stuff in Gobby at UDS and then manually move the content to wiki.ubuntu.com? With Wave, wiki.ubuntu.com and the collaborative realtime editing application could be the same tool.
[20:33] <ghindo> It's not even out yet though, right?
[20:36] <ion_> Indeed. I only watched the demo.
[22:18] <htrejh> hi
[22:19] <htrejh> in my control file, when i use a different name for package it creates a deb with missing files (except NEWS...), but not when package and source are identical, why?
[22:25] <htrejh> anyone?
[22:29] <LaserJock> htrejh: do you have a debian/install file?
[23:08] <htrejh> LaserJock: no
[23:08] <LaserJock> htrejh: you might want to create a <binary name>.install file
[23:09] <htrejh> empty file?
[23:10] <htrejh> i dont understand
[23:11] <azeem> why empty?
[23:11] <htrejh> what must it contain?
[23:11] <azeem> see the dh_install manpage
[23:11] <azeem> basically a list of files you want to include in your package, and which is not otherwise included (e.g. via NEWS via dh_installdocs)
[23:19] <htrejh> can you generate the list?