[06:23] <trappist> beligum: most windows users don't have compilers installed
[06:23] <octan> trappist no.. but you have to use some kid of medium that makes the code avaleble
[06:23] <aseigo> Electrolyte: i believe the panel in system settings only allows you to manage already created partitions
[06:23] <Electrolyte> Ah, ok.
[06:23] <beligum> yeah, but how do I 'prevent' a free port/fork?
[06:23] <octan> trappist, you can shipt it on paper if you like to...
[06:23] <aseigo> Electrolyte: do an `apt-get install qtparted` and you'll get a partition manager
[06:24] <trappist> beligum: you don't.  not if it's gpl.
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> beligum,  you cant. :)
[06:24] <dismal_> Is anyone here knowledgable on suspend/stand by on laptops?  I've been struggling for a few days and I can't figure it out.
[06:24] <beligum> lol
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> but you can sell support.
[06:24] <aseigo> Electrolyte: then you can run that and it'll give you nice little gui where you can create, delete, format, etc partitions
[06:24] <Electrolyte> Ok.
[06:24] <aseigo> Jucato: haha.. yeah, i saw that =P
[06:24] <beligum> lol, include the code in a book
[06:24] <beligum> now that's interesting
[06:24] <octan> beligum, you can do that
[06:25] <h3sp4wn> beligum: You can provide the source on DAT tape or something but that will probably make people even more determined to start a free fork
[06:25] <beligum> (I'm only kidding you guys)
[06:25] <vikke> hello, im trying to compile wine, but when I ./configure i get this: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[06:25] <trappist> vikke: sudo apt-get install build-essential && sudo apt-get build-dep wine
[06:25] <apokryphos> vikke: please check the FAQ
[06:26] <beligum> but I can do this, right? : release a GPL'd DLL, but a closed-source gui that uses it?
[06:26] <beligum> like the nomachine guys did (for those who know of them)
[06:27] <octan> beligum, yes if the dll is just a backend.. the code that uses the backen you can do what ever with
[06:27] <octan> but not the dll it self
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> i see that done all the time.. and worse violations of the GPL
[06:27] <trappist> beligum: please read up on the gpl (the answer is no, you can't link non-gpl-compatible code to gpl libraries)
[06:27] <Pensacola> how can I disable the referrer in konqueror?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> so you got a yes and no anwser beligum  :)
[06:28] <begleysm> hi guys... what linux kernel version is DapperDrake built on?
[06:28] <beligum> while I'm at it, perhaps you could help me with the underlying problem: I wrote the ScreenKast program (screen-recording and client to captorials.com), but I run into too little users, so I've been thinking to make a wintel port to enlarge the user-base
[06:28] <vikke> trappist: i cant find the package build-dep, you know what repo i require?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> Linux amd64 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 03:13:28 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:28] <trappist> vikke: don't apt-get install build-dep, just apt-get build-dep wine
[06:29] <begleysm> is the x86 version 2.6 as well?
[06:29] <octan> beligum, nice... c++?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> begleysm,  i would guess yes.
[06:29] <beligum> yes
[06:29] <h3sp4wn> begleysm: yes
[06:29] <begleysm> thanks
[06:30] <beligum> hmm, but can I link non-GPL code to a LGPL library?
[06:30] <vikke> trappist: ah yes, sorry, thanks
[06:30] <Pensacola> how can I see wich kde version I'm running?
[06:31] <trappist> beligum: please read the licenses.  this is getting pretty far off topic.  #kubuntu-offtopic would be more appropriate.
[06:31] <beligum> perhaps I should catch up on my OSS licenses
[06:31] <beligum> sorry trappist
[06:31] <trappist> lgpl *is* a lot more liberal, btw
[06:31] <beligum> (to my defence, running Kubuntu dapper now ;-))
[06:32] <beligum> btw, trappist, you don't happen to live in Belgium?
[06:32] <beligum> or Westmalle or something like that?
[06:32] <trappist> beligum: no, but I get a lot of that :)  I just really like belgian beer.
[06:33] <octan> beligum, that a verry nice app.. :) ppl should use that to show noobs how linux|kubuntu works.. like a presentation.
[06:33] <beligum> lol, me too :)
[06:33] <LeeJunFan> beligum: well, I think you may have just picked up one more user here.  I've never heard about it - but it would come in handy for the LUG I'm thinking about starting here.
[06:33] <Electrolyte> Anyone know how to set read/write access to a device in console?
[06:33] <LeeJunFan> never heard of it util now that is :) Looks nice.
[06:34] <beligum> octan, that was my initial intention (and look for a little funding through adsense), but something is preventing Linux-users from using it (can't figure out what)
[06:34] <trappist> beligum: if you're looking for users, pimp it on #kde-docs and #ubuntu-doc
[06:34] <octan> beligum, ppl should also add that to wiki's :P hehe that would be nice tho :P
[06:35] <trappist> beligum: or get a popular blogger to pimp it for you :)
[06:35] <beligum> well, I'm working of a html-snipped that can be used to copy-paste into blogs, etc
[06:35] <beligum> had some nice reviews though, check the "press-section" at captorials.com
[06:35] <beligum> *snippet
[06:37] <Electrolyte> Can someone tell me how to create a directory in a console?
[06:37] <trappist> Electrolyte: mkdir dirname
[06:37] <Electrolyte> Ty.
[06:37] <DaSkreech> beligum: Fridge?
[06:39] <begleysm> so im a big Linux newb and im trying to get kubuntu to work... i have some weird integrated NIC made by ICPlay and I've got the kernel 2.6 drivers for it along with a little readme telling me how to install it
[06:39] <Electrolyte> Now - can someone tell me how to give /sata read/write permissions to my username?
[06:39] <begleysm> Im in Konsole and im in the folder where the drivers are and it tells me to type "make all" i do so and linux tells me "bash: make: command not found"
[06:39] <beligum> DaSkreech, tried to post at ubuntuforums, but got my ass kicked for spam
[06:40] <beligum> oeh, the irony
[06:40] <Mortice> begleysm: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:40] <chell> hi
[06:41] <chell> I am having a problem with Kubuntu
[06:41] <DaSkreech> beligum: I'ml ost btw what are talking about
[06:41] <Mortice> hello again chell :)
[06:41] <DaSkreech> chell: Ask
[06:41] <chell> how can I add a user that can do everything on the machine (like scanning ec.) except for sudoing
[06:41] <chell> I'm already in the KControl panel for users
[06:41] <Electrolyte> No one? :(
[06:41] <chell> and I've already entered my password
[06:41] <chell> I'm in the new user dialogue
[06:42] <dimsuz> hmm... I still get: amarok: Depends: libpq4 (>= 8.1.4) but 8.1.3-4 is to be installed. How to cope with this?
[06:42] <beligum> DaSkreech: I thought you meant the Fridge forum at ubuntuforums ?
[06:42] <chell> but I don't know which groups I have to add the new user to except for his own
[06:42] <DaSkreech> beligum: Yeah. But I'm also at a loss to what the convo is about :-)
[06:42] <begleysm> its installing the build essentials Mortice... ill tell you how it goes in a few mins :) thx
[06:42] <DaSkreech> chell: Most of them  are obvious. Audio CDrom etc
[06:42] <Electrolyte> Woops - any know where the main file is for mounting drives? I need to remove an entry in it.
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Electrolyte: try /etc/fstab
[06:43] <Mortice> begleysm: make is a tool very often used in compiling from source. if you don't have that installed, chances are you don't have other things like a compiler installed. The build-essential package points to packages which will provide all of that and allow you to build your drivers.
[06:43] <Electrolyte> Thanks - just what I needed :)
[06:44] <beligum> DaScreech: lol, ScreenKast, captorials, videohelpdesking ;)
[06:45] <Electrolyte> Can someone tell me if this following line will work to mount an ext3 SATA drive: /dev/sda1       /sata           ext3    defaults        0       0
[06:45] <Electrolyte> For the fstab file that is.
[06:46] <h3sp4wn> yep
[06:46] <Electrolyte> :D
[06:46] <h3sp4wn> sudo mount -a will reread fstab
[06:46] <Electrolyte> Ok.
[06:47] <Electrolyte> No errors.
[06:47] <Electrolyte> Now I need to set permissions - how can I set my normal username to read/write access?
[06:47] <begleysm> im trying to install these drivers and the instructions look like this...
[06:47] <begleysm> #make all  => generate sundance.ko
[06:47] <begleysm>       #insmod ./sundance.ko (or sundance.o)
[06:47] <begleysm>       #ifconfig eth0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy
[06:47] <begleysm>             eth0 is your network adapter,use "dmesg" to check it, ex: eth0, eth1...
[06:47] <begleysm>             xxx  is your ip address, ex: <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:47] <begleysm>             yyy  is your netmask address, ex:<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:47] <h3sp4wn> Electrolyte: make a folder underneath it i.e sudo mkdir -p /sata/files
[06:48] <Mortice> begleysm: could you use pastebot for large pastes, please?
[06:48] <h3sp4wn> Electrolyte: sudo chown yourusername:yourusername /sata/files
[06:48] <lars> thought they had fixed it but now i noticed i was wrong, i need to disable and re-enable my network card to get internet access, any hints
[06:48] <lars> chmod 700 to give you all access and all others none
[06:48] <begleysm> i installed the build-essentials now when i type "make all => generate sundance.ko" and I got the msg "make: *** empty variable name. Stop." and an empty file "generate" was created
[06:48] <begleysm> Mortice: yes, sorry
[06:48] <Electrolyte> Thanks h3sp4wn :D
[06:49] <lars> chmod XYZ            X= user, y =group, Z =others
[06:49] <DaSkreech> Electrolyte: You can also try man fstab :)
[06:49] <Mortice> begleysm: I think the instructions are telling you to type just "make all", and telling you that that will generate sundance.ko.
[06:49] <Mortice> try typing make all.
[06:49] <Electrolyte> Well, it's all done now - Windows lost an 80GB SATA drive, Linux gained one ^.^
[06:50] <DaSkreech> There should be an easier way to browse man pages in Kubuntu
[06:50] <lars> use konquror
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> man:/  osent easy? :P
[06:50] <lars> man:\\ to
[06:50] <Mortice> or the kde help center
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> or is it man:\\ or \ or \\\\\\\\\
[06:50] <v3ctor> man:/
[06:50] <Electrolyte> Wow, copying from one ext3 filesystem to another is far faster than ntfs to ext3 :O
[06:50] <begleysm> hehe sorry, im a linux newb... take some things too literally hehe.  I do that and get
[06:50] <lars> need help
[06:50] <lars>  i need to disable and re-enable my network card to get internet access, any hints
[06:51] <begleysm> "make: *** /lib/module/2.6.15-26-386/build: no such file or directory. Stop."
[06:51] <octan> lars, dhcp?
[06:51] <begleysm> "make: *** [all]  Error 2"
[06:51] <lars> yep
[06:51] <Mortice> ok begley. What it's doing now is trying to build it against your kernel headers, which aren't installed
[06:51] <begleysm> I currently have the files on a USB flash drive... do I need to relocate them to that path?
[06:51] <Mortice> hold on one second while i double-check the command you need to issue
[06:51] <begleysm> ok, thank you
[06:52] <octan> lars, dhclient ethX
[06:52] <milco> !xgl
[06:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:52] <octan> X is probealy 0
[06:52] <milco> DaSkreech:  omg.. xgl is a bitch
[06:52] <DaSkreech> milco: I'm confused. Is that in a good way or a bad way?
[06:53] <Mortice> begley: type "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386"
[06:53] <lars> how do i check that?
[06:53] <octan> lars, ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0 ; dhclient eth0
[06:53] <lars> and fix it
[06:53] <begleysm> alright it is installing those headers... thx Mort
[06:54] <milco> DaSkreech: a guid to install it for kubuntu of 3 months olds looks totally different then a guid of a one month old.........
[06:54] <milco> guide
[06:54] <milco> sorry
[06:54] <DaSkreech> octan: Ah man You don't even want to know how I just read that
[06:54] <DaSkreech> milco: Moving target
[06:54] <lars> in the config menu for the network card or where?, eth0 and protocol dhcp at the moment, didnt really check before
[06:54] <Daniloc[away] > try to ping this site i cant, i dont know why ..... www.bia.sr.gov.yu
[06:54] <DaSkreech> If you saw a guide for today it would a new thing
[06:54] <octan> DaSkreech, ?
[06:54] <Mortice> begleysm: sorry you have to go through this as a linux newbie.
[06:55] <Daniloc[away] > try to ping this site i cant, i dont know why ..... www.bia.sr.gov.yu
[06:55] <milco> DaSkreech: yeah.. i cant even get it to work properly
[06:55] <milco> (to start!)
[06:55] <DaSkreech> octan: I say ifup ifup ifdown ifdown if left then I blinked
[06:55] <begleysm> bleh... im getting "make[1] : *** No rule to make target `for'. Stop."
[06:55] <DaSkreech> milco: As I said #ubuntu-xgl :)
[06:55] <octan> DaSkreech LOL
[06:56] <milco> DaSkreech: im there for a long time already.. :P
[06:56] <Daniloc[away] > anybody ?
[06:56] <lars>  in the config menu for the network card or where?, eth0 and protocol dhcp at the moment, didnt really check before
[06:56] <Daniloc[away] > try to ping this site i cant, i dont know why ..... www.bia.sr.gov.yu
[06:56] <chell> can someone please mention my nickname in a message, I'm trying to setup konversation properly
[06:56] <lars> but it still doesnt say anything about how to fix it
[06:56] <begleysm> hello chell
[06:57] <chell> cheers
[06:57] <stefan> hello, how can I start konqueror in fullscreenmode?
[06:57] <chell> works much better than in xchat
[06:57] <Mortice> Daniloc[away] : i can access it over http, but not ping it. They've probably got ping traffic blocked
[06:57] <octan> lars fixing? type that @ the cli
[06:58] <PasNox> hi
[06:58] <PasNox> someone know if it exists a qt/jkde client for proftpd ?
[06:58] <lars> something happened, didnt know what to do though
[06:58] <Mortice> pasnox: konqueror?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> any FTP client should be ablt to connect to  a proftpd   ftp server
[06:58] <_rince_> mrgn
[06:58] <Daniloc[away] > try to ping this site i cant, i dont know why ..... www.bia.sr.gov.yu
[06:58] <lars> what exacly is it that i did
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> you mean a GUI to configure the server?
[06:59] <Mortice> Daniloc[away] : did you read my message?
[06:59] <octan> lars, that disables eth0 .. then re-enables eth0 again,, dhclient eth0 tryed to get a ip from a dhcp server..
[06:59] <Mortice> 17:57 < Mortice> Daniloc[away] : i can access it over http, but not ping it. They've probably got ping traffic blocked
[06:59] <PasNox> Dr_Willis: yes
[06:59] <octan> *tryes
[06:59] <lars> will it do it every time i restart or?
[06:59] <Mortice> oh, sorry PasNox. I thought you meant a client GUI.
[06:59] <PasNox> np
[06:59] <PasNox> i need cleint to configure the server
[07:00] <Daniloc[away] > Mortice: ddosed ;))
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> reading and editing the config file is too hard eh? :P
[07:00] <PasNox> by the way, how i can share ntfs with proftpd ?!
[07:00] <octan> lars hopefylly not
[07:00] <Mortice> Daniloc: well, it's hardly a good DoS attack if the webserver is still serving webpages, is it?
[07:00] <PasNox> Dr_Willis: not too hard, but take time
[07:00] <PasNox> :p
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> best would be to use some alternative to ftp totally.
[07:00] <lars> then it must have changed something, like a config file since i am already on the internet, after i disabled and re-enabled it
[07:01] <octan> lars if you start dhclent eth0 on each bootup it fill give you a ip on eth0
[07:01] <milco> is it possible to logout from KDE to get back onto the shell......?
[07:01] <PasNox> i can drop gui need, my first need is to allow ntfs share, how i can do ?
[07:01] <milco> (not ctrl+alt+backspace) but really closing the kde session?
[07:01] <lars> and this started dhclent service?
[07:01] <octan> lars, ther is probealy already a dhcp init script on your system.
[07:02] <Mortice> milco: do ctrl-alt-f1, then login and type sudo init 3
[07:02] <octan> lars,  just make it executeble if its not.
[07:02] <Mortice> that should close kde, iirc
[07:02] <h3sp4wn> man /etc/network/interfaces you shouldn't need to launch dhclient directly (probably you don't have auto eth0 in there)
[07:03] <PasNox> cya++
[07:04] <Mortice> pasnox: if you've got the ntfs volume mounted on your local filesystem, sharing it over FTP shouldn't be a problem, should it?
[07:04] <begleysm> sorry Im such a nub but when I type "make all" I now get "make[1] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386'          make[1] : *** No rule to make target `for'. Stop.           make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux=headers-2.6.15-26-386'         make: *** [all]  Error 2
[07:04] <Mortice> just point proftpd to the correct directory
[07:04] <octan> Mortice thats no problem.. i do it
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> a simple read only mount. :P
[07:04] <Mortice> begleysm: are there any errors before those?
[07:04] <begleysm> nope
[07:05] <lars> shall look into the manual and see if i find something
[07:05] <lars> didnt had the auto file at least
[07:05] <begleysm> there is 1 line before that but it isnt an error
[07:05] <begleysm> just the expanded make command
[07:05] <Mortice> begleysm: is there a web page for these drivers you're installing?
[07:05] <octan> begleysm, make all? why not just make ;make install?
[07:06] <begleysm> octan: im just following a readme... im a linux newb
[07:06] <octan> ok
[07:06] <begleysm> mortice: http://www.icplus.com.tw/driver-pp-IP100A.html is where i got them from
[07:06] <octan> your doing it right tho.. always read the README file :P
[07:06] <begleysm> it was linked from a forum post at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-186861.html
[07:07] <chell> is kubuntu edgy more polished than dapper? because kubuntu dapper looks like it's great but they don't seem to have focused on it really
[07:07] <begleysm> octane: hehe... im just trying to get my head around all these commands and the install procedure hehe... im having to install these NIC drivers manually so that I can use Adept and stuff
[07:07] <Pensacola> how can I disable the referrer in konqueror?
[07:07] <dismal_> Does anyone know how to get a laptop to properly hibernate/suspend/stand by?
[07:08] <milco> !xgl
[07:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:09] <_ian> guys is it safe to use automatix
[07:09] <octan> begleysm, is the driver in a newer kernel pherhaps? did you see if 2.6.17 has it?
[07:10] <begleysm> the driver says it is for 2.6.x and 2.4.x and give slightly different install procedures for each
[07:10] <begleysm> im following the 2.6.x procedures
[07:10] <begleysm> it was updated aug 23rd and is the only Linux drive on the company download page
[07:11] <Mortice> hmm, begley, it works for me...
[07:12] <begleysm> lol
[07:12] <octan> begleysm, sudo make all?
[07:12] <begleysm> gives me the same error as "make all"
[07:13] <Mortice> i assume your /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build and /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 directories exist?
[07:13] <begleysm> the line that looks most relevant to me is "make[1] : *** No rule to make target `for'. Stop."
[07:13] <lars> h3spa4n in which of the if- should i add auto eth0?
[07:13] <begleysm> i just installed the headers and it says it was successful... im gonna go double check those directories
[07:14] <lars> h3spa4n, my guess would be if-preup.d
[07:14] <giuSerpe> .
[07:14] <h3sp4wn> lars: /etc/network/interfaces
[07:14] <begleysm> the /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build is actually a Link to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[07:15] <lars> h3spa4n: there, which of the files, if-pre-up?
[07:15] <Mortice> begleysm: yea, that's fine, as long as there is stuff in the latter directory :)
[07:15] <begleysm> and the /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386  exists
[07:15] <h3sp4wn> lars: that is a file name
[07:15] <begleysm> yup.. its full of.. stuff ;P
[07:16] <octan> did you run configure?
[07:16] <lars> h3spa4n: yes but isnt those file the config files it reads during the diffrent stages?
[07:16] <begleysm> the error appears, to me, to say that I am missing some rules for how make deals with different symbols
[07:16] <begleysm> i dont even know what configure is o.0
[07:16] <Mortice> begleysm: ok. and the expanded make command it shows you is "make -C /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build SUBDIRS=/somedirectory modules"?
[07:16] <begleysm> is there any C defs that I need?
[07:16] <Mortice> octan: there is no configure script
[07:16] <octan> Mortice, ok.
[07:16] <begleysm> yes
[07:16] <octan> Mortice, just checking :P
[07:17] <begleysm> and the somedirectory is where i have the files and where im running make all from
[07:17] <Mortice> yea
[07:17] <Mortice> where you unzipped the zip archive to
[07:17] <octan> begleysm, does this do anything? make distclean ?
[07:17] <obf213> whata is swap
[07:17] <Mortice> octan: that target isn't in the makefile
[07:17] <h3sp4wn> lars: You shouldn't need to change those /etc/network/interfaces is the only one you change
[07:17] <octan> Mortice, ok..
[07:17] <Mortice> it's only 44k for the zip, you could download it and see for yourself :P
[07:17] <begleysm> the error says it enters the linux-headers dir then cant find the rule for `for' then leaves the linux-headers dir and errors out
[07:17] <octan> Mortice, yea i should :P
[07:18] <obf213> !swap
[07:18] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[07:18] <begleysm> so is there any C make definitions I need to install or anything?
[07:18] <lars> h3spa4n: ok, there is auto eth0 but not auto dhcpup or what it said in the manual
[07:18] <Mortice> no, begley, you have everything installed that you should. There seems to be a bug in the makefile. I'll have a look through it.
[07:18] <lars> h3spa4n: should one add that then
[07:18] <octan> Mortice, && begleysm ls -la /usr/src/linux ?
[07:19] <obf213> is it mad e if my comp maks that rumbling sound w/e its processing
[07:19] <obf213> and tis under two months old
[07:19] <h3sp4wn> lars: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[07:19] <begleysm> umm i dont know what that means octan hehe
[07:19] <octan> Mortice do you got the source and he not?
[07:19] <lars> h3spa4n: there already
[07:20] <h3sp4wn> lars: sudo ifup eth0 - does that fail ?
[07:20] <Mortice> octan: no, i only have the headers installed. i'm building on k7 though.
[07:20] <lars> h3spa4n: already configured
[07:21] <h3sp4wn> lars: sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[07:21] <lars> h3spa4n: did as he said, "ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0 ; dhclient eth0" but that sound more like a temp solution
[07:21] <octan> Mortice ok,, just had a thought,, that pherhaps the Makefiles looks in the /usr/src/linux dir and not the header dir
[07:21] <h3sp4wn> ifup should be calling dhclient
[07:21] <milco> DaSkreech: took me 1,5hour to get it right...
[07:21] <milco> but its working fine now :)
[07:21] <Mortice> octan: no, that's not the case, i've just checked it
[07:21] <h3sp4wn> making the last step completely unecesary
[07:21] <milco> !xgl
[07:21] <Mortice> seriously. download the archive instead of guessing.
[07:21] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:22] <lars> h3spa4n: both work, got no problem with internet now, just after reboot
[07:22] <lars> h3spa4n: use dual-boot but i dont really think win should interfere with this (sry for my bad spelling)
[07:23] <Galathalion> LARS
[07:23] <h3sp4wn> lars: so put a sleep in pre-up or something (maybe it takes a while to settle)
[07:23] <Mortice> begley_sm: could you try going into /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 and typing "sudo make modules_prepare", then running make all from the driver build directory again?
[07:23] <begleysm> sure, 1 sec
[07:24] <Shafrir> Hi!
[07:24] <Shafrir> I have a little question!
[07:24] <Mortice> go ahead and ask, Shafrir
[07:24] <Shafrir> Is there anybody who used Gnocky with Kubuntu?
[07:24] <h3sp4wn> gnokii ?
[07:24] <Shafrir> Yep! With GUI
[07:25] <begleysm> just FYI: under /usr/src I have 2 dirs... linux-headers-2.6.15-25 AND linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[07:25] <timi> k
[07:25] <stewraz> can i get some help instaling an rpm package
[07:25] <Mortice> yea begley, that's as it should be.
[07:25] <h3sp4wn> Shafrir: I have only used the cli version
[07:26] <timi> my computer started making processing noises a few days a going, you know that kind fo rumbling sound, now its gotten louder wht does this mean
[07:26] <begleysm> Mortice: I did that... seems to have no effect
[07:26] <Mortice> begleysm: hmm. that's odd
[07:26] <Shafrir> cli version???
[07:26] <begleysm> same error "No rule to make target `for'. Stop."
[07:27] <stewraz> when i run the rpm command it says the comand cannot be found
[07:27] <_ian> timi: it might be your fan or hd?
[07:27] <_ian> those are the most common of the noise makers since they are motorized
[07:27] <Sanne> stewraz: kubuntu uses the deb package format, not rpm. If possible, use software from the repositories.. Which package is that?
[07:28] <h3sp4wn> Shafrir: command line interface
[07:28] <stewraz> limewire
[07:28] <Mortice> begleysm: could you use pastebot and paste the contents of the Makefile in the directory where you type 'make all', please?
[07:28] <timi> i hear the fan it just makes a fan noise, this sound is a lke a rumbling sound that seems to come on simulataneously with  the processing light, but is it a bad sign normall i didnt hear this until my computer was a lot over, this one in is stil under 2 months
[07:28] <begleysm> sure... umm... how do i use pastebot? ;P
[07:28] <Shafrir> Clear.... :(
[07:29] <Mortice> !pasteboy
[07:29] <h3sp4wn> !paste
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pasteboy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:29] <stewraz> so which sofware do i use
[07:29] <Mortice> heh
[07:29] <_ian> well better have it checked itll be bad if the fan stops
[07:29] <Mortice> I fail
[07:29] <Sanne> stewraz: ok, no package limewire is the repositories. What does it do?
[07:29] <begleysm> ;P
[07:29] <stewraz> oh hold on, i havent checked the reps yet, 1 sec
[07:29] <Mortice> stewraz: frostwire is in the repositories. It's a GPL version of limewire
[07:30] <timi> the fans are wroking fine, im guessing this is the hdd then, could the processor be making a noise?
[07:30] <begleysm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22640
[07:30] <stewraz> Mortice, i cannot find frostwire either
[07:31] <Mortice> huh. we appear to have different files, begley. I downloaded IP1000A Linux driver v2.09f.zip. What is your zip file called?
[07:31] <stewraz> mortice, do i have to add some repos
[07:31] <Sanne> Mortice: packages.ubuntu.com doesn't list frostwire.
[07:31] <Sanne> stewraz: I'd still like to know what kind of software that is ;)
[07:31] <begleysm> hehe good thinking ;P mine is called "IP100A for Linux driver v1.22.zip"
[07:31] <Mortice> oh, it must be in some other repository. i have it installed
[07:32] <lars> Thanks people i assume my network card - DHCP works now since it worked this time (even though it had 10 % success rate before) =)
[07:32] <skavenge> !info frostwire
[07:32] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in any distro I know
[07:32] <Mortice> begleysm: ah. :) What was the link to the download page again?
[07:32] <lars> else i will be back
[07:32] <begleysm> http://www.icplus.com.tw/driver-pp-IP100A.html
[07:32] <skavenge> frostwire isnt in the repos you need to get it off thier website
[07:33] <begleysm> mortice: im not particularly attached to these drivers... where did you find yours?
[07:33] <Sanne> Mortice: can you run: apt-cache policy frostwire , then you could tell stewraz which repository to add.
[07:34] <Mortice> begley: yea, that works for me too. Hmm.
[07:34] <PasNox> Mortice: no partition is already mount in RO, and i cant share it
[07:34] <PasNox> if i do, user can t login
[07:34] <begleysm> gah!
[07:35] <Mortice> begleysm: i'll be back in 45, and i'll check the makefile. Will you be around?
[07:35] <begleysm> i have class in 30 mins
[07:35] <begleysm> ill be back in about 2 hours from now
[07:35] <Mortice> begleysm: Ah. Ok, I'll let you know then if I find anything
[07:35] <begleysm> thanks mort
[07:35] <begleysm> i appreciate the help
[07:36] <Mortice> no worries :)
[07:36] <DaSkreech> milco: Great :-) If you want to help with a new guide ....
[07:37] <milco> DaSkreech: the old guide is worthless
[07:37] <milco> it should be takes offline right away, is that possible?
[07:37] <PasNox> anyone can help me sharing a ntfs partition with proftpd ?! please
[07:37] <stewraz> i read tat u use alien -i (rpm file)
[07:37] <DaSkreech> milco: Still more helpful than the old guid
[07:37] <stewraz> but that is not recognised either
[07:38] <DaSkreech> milco: Wanna mail the person?
[07:38] <milco> DaSkreech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[07:38] <milco> if people use this, then it all goes well..
[07:38] <ghyns> hello, how can I access an irc server from port tcp/udp 80 ? :)
[07:38] <DaSkreech> Alright :)
[07:38] <milco> point is, you dont wanne install the packages from the repository seperately
[07:39] <ghyns> my campus-lan blocks outcoming connections
[07:39] <Sanne> stewraz: Better try to find that ubuntu *.deb package of frostwire. Unfortunately, Mortice didn't tell what repository he got it from, so you would have to search for it.
[07:39] <skavenge> there is no repo, its on frostwire's website
[07:39] <milco> DaSkreech: 'All you have to do is install the xserver-xgl package, it will take care of all the dependencies.' << from the ubuntu xgl page
[07:40] <stewraz> thanks all
[07:40] <Sanne> stewraz: maybe this one: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_P2P_Gnutella_Client_.28FrostWire.29
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Yeah but then you get compiz etc with it?
[07:40] <skavenge> the frostwire .deb for ubuntu is right on the first page of frostwire.com
[07:40] <DaSkreech> !frostwire
[07:40] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[07:41] <milco> sorry DaSkreech, took me a sec to realize that ubuntu is using gnome........
[07:41] <milco> i never used ubuntu.. (stupid me)
[07:41] <DaSkreech> milco: Yah :)
[07:41] <Sanne> DaSkreech: thanks for the frostwire info... I should have searched the official docs first.
[07:42] <Sanne> :)
[07:42] <kai> hallo!
[07:42] <kai> ich hab ein problem mit meinem kubuntu nvidia treiber!
[07:42] <Daniloc> english please :
[07:42] <kai> er sagt "no screens found"
[07:42] <Sanne> kai: #kubuntu-de
[07:42] <kai> ah ok
[07:42] <kai> hey guys
[07:43] <kai> ive got some problems with the nvidia driver
[07:43] <Kurtiz_AFK> problem with nvidia driver he said I think
[07:43] <Daniloc> :)
[07:43] <kai> ^^
[07:43] <Daniloc> yes, it is
[07:43] <Daniloc> but, what problem...
[07:43] <kai> it says no screens found
[07:43] <kai> i installed XGL compiz and the driver through this howto
[07:43] <kai> http://wiki.xglusers.de/index.php/Xgl_mit_Kde
[07:44] <ryanr> I compiled  the 2.6.17 kernel for whatever reason the modem is not detected. If I boot into the kernel that comes by default it works.
[07:44] <kai>  with the nv driver it works
[07:44] <kai> maybe u know help?
[07:44] <skavenge> ryanr: so you compiled your kernel without support for your modem
[07:44] <DaSkreech> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[07:44] <h3sp4wn> It might need non free firmware or anything
[07:45] <ryanr> I guess so
[07:45] <_ian> whats a good media player that can stream thorugh shoutcast/
[07:46] <h3sp4wn> moc
[07:46] <Sanne> kai: you might also want to try asking in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:49] <_ian> is it possible to play ro  games here in kubuntu like rom emulators?
[07:49] <DaSkreech> ro ?
[07:50] <Jucato> _ian: I think there are emulators available in the repository for SNES and GBA. I'm sure about GBA it's called VisualBoy Advance and it's frontend, VBA Express
[07:51] <skavenge> snes has zsnes and snes9x, pretty sure on the genesis one as well
[07:51] <skavenge> they're free format though! woo
[07:52] <skavenge> erm
[07:52] <Jucato> no PS emulator in the repos though
[07:52] <sege> how can i get kubuntu to not show graphical boot but instead old fashion boot? my screen doesn't seem to handle that, i see nothing before X appears.
[07:52] <skavenge> nope, epsxe isnt too hard to install though, ive got it running on my desktop
[07:52] <skavenge> not enough ram though alot of games choke
[07:53] <sasser> hi alla kde users
[07:53] <sasser> *all
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Jucato: are there any period?
[07:54] <Jucato> DaSkreech: huh?
[07:54] <DaSkreech> A PS2 Emulator
[07:54] <stephan__> grothesk bist du da ?
[07:55] <Jucato> um.. I just said PS... not PS2...
[07:55] <stephan__> sag mir mal vorteile von linux zu windwos ?
[07:55] <Jucato> there are PS 2 emulators, I think. but I don't know if they will run in Linux
[07:56] <skavenge> yeah, 'ubuntu' is a registered trademark so you've got to get permission
[07:56] <skavenge> gah too many windows
[07:56] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Cool - linux comment
[07:56] <lupine_85> ePSXe
[07:56] <Sanne> stephan__: you're in the english channel ;)
[07:56] <stephan__> oh sorry
[07:57] <Kurtiz> So, I updated my system via adept to a new kernel now my PCMCIA wireless card is not working. It shows up under lspci but what is the next step in trouble shooting?
[07:57] <stephan__> wrong channel
[07:57] <Sanne> stephan__: no worries :)
[07:58] <Kurtiz> Is this some sort of kernel config issue that is going to require me to build a kernel? If so why does Adept even have  kernels listed. .. .
[08:01] <ubuntux1> can anyone plzzzzzzzzz tell me when Ubuntu 6.06.2 is scheduled to release?
[08:01] <DaSkreech> Though PS3 is a PS2 emulator and it runs on LInux :)
[08:01] <Jucato> ubuntux1: why?
[08:01] <Sanne> Kurtiz: if it worked before, chances are good that it will work again. Maybe you just have to install additional kernel modules (aka drivers) for the new kernel?
[08:01] <DaSkreech> ubuntux1: I don't think there is one scheduled
[08:02] <Jucato> 6.06.2, if ever there will be one, will just be a maintenance release
[08:02] <Jucato> it is not the next major release ofKubuntu
[08:02] <lupine_85> Kurtiz: presumably you no longer have a kernel module for it
[08:02] <Electrolyte> Can anyone help with launch an install script from a CD? It just keeps saying Permission Denied when I do sudo ./linux-installer.sh
[08:02] <skavenge> you need to build the kernel modules ofr your specific kernel now ...
[08:02] <ubuntux1> DaSkreech: :(
[08:03] <DaSkreech> ubuntux1: Why is it so important?
[08:03] <Jucato> ubuntux1: 6.06.2, if ever there will be one, will just be a maintenance release. it is not the next major release, which will happen in October
[08:03] <Mortice> begleysm: you still there?
[08:04] <Kurtiz> Ah thanks for the info. What are the basic steps to build the modules?
[08:04] <lupine_85> make
[08:04] <lupine_85> make install
[08:04] <lupine_85> :D
[08:04] <lupine_85> you need the source first
[08:04] <Sanne> Kurtiz: did it work with your old kernel?
[08:04] <ubuntux1> DaSkreech: if it were releasing sooner...i could have downloaded that at my university instead of 6.06.1...
[08:05] <[GuS] > or checkinstall in the place of make install ;)
[08:05] <lupine_85> you could always just go back to your previous kernel
[08:05] <skavenge> whats wrong with 6.06.1?
[08:05] <[GuS] > for better package maintenance..
[08:05] <[GuS] > skavenge, with what?
[08:05] <Jucato> checkinstall would be better
[08:05] <lupine_85> [GuS] : possibly. For one .ko, it doesn't really matter TBH
[08:06] <[GuS] > lupine_85, but yes for benginner or a better packages setups
[08:06] <[GuS] > and easy to uninstall...
[08:06] <[GuS] > no all packages sources have make unistall...
[08:06] <Kurtiz> Yes
[08:07] <lupine_85> My only checkinstall package for a .ko deleted all my modules.dep files
[08:07] <Daniloc> :-)
[08:07] <Daniloc> :-p
[08:07] <Sanne> Kurtiz: was this for me?
[08:07] <Kurtiz> It worked with my old kernel
[08:07] <lupine_85> Not exactly best practice, IMO
[08:07] <Sanne> Kurtiz: please type my name, then I will get alertet
[08:07] <Kurtiz> K
[08:07] <[GuS] > of course not lupine_85
[08:07] <lupine_85> Kurtiz: do you need a specific feature of the new kernel? I fnot, it might be better to just downgrade
[08:07] <Sanne> Kurtiz: do you remember doing anything special to make it work previously, like, building the modules from source?
[08:07] <[GuS] > but is a nice way to have the system very clean...
[08:08] <lupine_85> heh, lol
[08:08] <lupine_85> too clean, maybe
[08:08] <[GuS] > so... not every user want to learn very good how to build packages from sources...
[08:08] <Kurtiz> Sanne> No I just installed from CD, did some updates from Adept and it worked.
[08:09] <escola> how can I install my SQL package?
[08:09] <skavenge> the modules for the stock kernel would have already been built most likely
[08:09] <ubuntu_> hi
[08:09] <Sanne> Kurtiz: what kernel was this, and what device do you want supported?
[08:09] <Sanne> Kurtiz: and which kernel did you newly install?
 My gripe is why have Kernels in Adept if the install of the Kernel is not going to also rebuild the modules you need and break everything. Seems dumb
[08:09] <_ian> whewre can i get cool themes?
[08:10] <lupine_85> Kurtiz: diferent kernel versions include different modules. The devs can't really keep track of the modules you, personally, need
[08:10] <skavenge> whats the point of installing modules somebody might not need?
[08:10] <lupine_85> Although I agree that WLAN drivers in Ubuntu are a bit of a mess
Uh, it was whatever was the latest kernel under Adept about a week ago from the standard repositories. It's a Netgear card which should be the Athoes chip
[08:10] <lupine_85> skavenge: they're built with the kernel... Ubuntu devs don't want to expose anything like that to the average user
[08:11] <lupine_85> so they just install a broad spectrum of stuff
[08:12] <wilfred> dpkg just gave me this bizarre error "package architecture (x86_64) does not match system (amd64)", any idea how I can fix it?
[08:12] <Sanne> Kurtiz: can you paste the output of: uname -a   , and also the relevant lines of your device of: lspci -v   to paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[08:12] <lupine_85> wilfred: whoever build the package was a numpty
[08:12] <wilfred> lol - it was me :-)
[08:12] <lupine_85> change your control file to read amd64 instead of x86_64
[08:13] <escola> alguem sabe instalar o my sql
[08:13] <Kurtiz>  <lupine_85>Ubuntu still sees my onboard chip but I havbe had little luck getting to connect to APs. Even though the same onboard chip works like a charm under Windoze. The chip sees the APs and seems to connect but no data flows
[08:13] <wilfred> I was using checkinstall to build it, does that matter?
[08:13] <lupine_85> Kurtiz: in that case the kernel module is still there
[08:13] <lupine_85> it's probably just been "upgraded"
[08:14] <lupine_85> wilfred: remake it and manually change the architecture to amd64
[08:14] <lupine_85> checkinstall is crap
I would but my laptop is in Windows right now, and it's how I connect my desktop (Running Gentoo) to the internet. . . I think I can browse the /boot directory and get the info from grub.conf
[08:14] <wilfred> ok, but then what's the best way to compile things in a way that lets me remove them cleanly later?
[08:15] <lupine_85> wilfred: checkinstall is currently the best way :(
[08:15] <Sanne> Kurtiz: ok, for the kernels, that would help. But what we really would need is the name of the kernel module for your device. So if we can't have lspci, can you tell again what device this is, as exact as you can?
[08:15] <wilfred> lol. so what do proper (k)ubuntu packagers use?
[08:16] <lupine_85> wilfred: they build their own, I'd imagine
[08:16] <lupine_85> it's not exactly hard
Gurr my Windows driver to let me read ext2 partitions is acting wonky. The PCMCIA card is a Netgear WG511T with the Atheros chipset. It's supposed to be well supported and I have seen few complaints on the message boards about it.
[08:19] <lavi_> libbluetooth1-dev
[08:19] <lavi_> Ouch.........
[08:20] <wilfred> lupine_85: it's all new to me...
[08:20] <lavi_> What do U think about Zinf?
[08:20] <wilfred> lupine_85: can't I force dpkg to open it?
[08:20] <lupine_85> wilfred: --force-architecture might do the trick
[08:20] <Haz> hey, i was wondering, is there a decent program that allows you to execute scheduled commands?
[08:20] <lupine_85> not recommended though, even if you "know" it's safe
[08:20] <lupine_85> it's not much effort to re-un checkinstall and change the architecture
[08:21] <Sanne> Kurtiz: ok, I will investigate. But first, I just saw that the package "linux-restricted-modules-<your-kernel-version>" also provides some pcmcia modules. Might be worth checking if you had this package installed for your old kernel, but nor for your new.
[08:21] <soulrider_> hi everyone
I will check it out
[08:22] <dhq> hey all
[08:22] <soulrider> hi
[08:22] <dhq> where can i get the full source list of adept i scr**** mine
[08:22] <Sanne> Kurtiz: seems my guess might be viable, look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71939
[08:23] <dhq> ubotu: !sourcelist
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourcelist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <skavenge> !easysource
[08:23] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:25] <wilfred> lupine_85: ok, how do I change the arch? where do I find the control file?
[08:25] <lavi_> HEY! Who can tell me is Zinf better than XMMS?
Looks like this might do the trick. Would downloading the newest version of the install CD provide me with the .debs I would need to update? As I can't access the internet now in Kubuntu and only in Windoze I am not sure if I am smart enough to figure out which .debs I would need.
[08:26] <lupine_85> wilfred: just re-run checkinstall
[08:26] <lupine_85> I think it's option 4 or something
[08:27] <AtKaaZ> is there a command that swaps two ttys ? ie. tty2 <-> tty24
[08:28] <dhq> ubotu: !source
[08:28] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:28] <lupine_85> wilfred: the alternative is to ar -x the .deb file, tr -xzvf control.tar.gz, modify the control file, then put it all back together with dpkg -b
[08:28] <Sanne> Kurtiz: I don't know if they are on the cd... lets try to find out which kernel version the new one is, somehow, and then you could just get the module package now and install it with 'dpkg -i packagename' later
[08:29] <user_> hi
[08:33] <Przemcio1978> hi, do you know some cool software for webcams?
[08:33] <dhq> any otherplaces i can get more sources to update
[08:33] <DaSkreech> Kopete?
[08:34] <DaSkreech> !easysource
[08:34] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:34] <Przemcio1978> like camorama or camstream but more cool
[08:34] <dhq> DaSkreech: anyother place
[08:34] <Przemcio1978> i mean 'cooler'
[08:37] <dhq> Przemcio1978: you can run uleads photo studio or uleads video studio over wine its good
[08:38] <Przemcio1978> nothing cool for linux? :(
[08:38] <DaSkreech> Przemcio1978: Well we are working on getting all webcams to work then we can bling out the cool :)
[08:39] <dhq> Przemcio1978: not that i know of
[08:39] <DaSkreech> Though I recall Gaim having a plugin that was supposed to take your webcam picture and tehn create a caricature of you for your icon
[08:39] <amadeus> X :1 -query <IP_ADDRESS> does not work - what can i do?
[08:39] <dhq> DaSkreech: i cant run opengl screensaver and google earth i need to configure my opengl do you have any idea how
[08:40] <DaSkreech> dhq: check in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:40] <Przemcio1978> camorama is cool actually but it doesn't work well with my new webcam
[08:41] <dhq> DaSkreech: i tried xgl and my full system grafx got scr^^^^
[08:41] <cbo> hello all. does someone know how to configure kdm greeter?
[08:43] <dhq> in adept when i type gnome why do i get broken packages
[08:44] <michael> hi @ all
[08:44] <DaSkreech> dhq: No not XGL just openGL
[08:44] <DaSkreech> You have to have openGL setup to use XGL so they would be able to help you at least that far :0
[08:44] <Przemcio1978> Qt is not multithreaded (or its name is wrong). You MUST have a multithreaded
[08:44] <Przemcio1978> version of the Qt library installed or CamStream will simply not compile.
[08:45] <Przemcio1978> what the hell???
[08:45] <DaSkreech> Przemcio1978: try in #kde?
[08:45] <zorgluu1> q. i would like a text editor in "tty" non gui, but something with the usual keys, not the particular taste of its dev :) any suggestion ?
[08:45] <ironfroggy> how could i diagnose why flash and video players are so laggy on my desktop, but responsive on my laptop? they are similar in hardware.
[08:47] <Sanne> Przemcio1978: I have libqt3-mt installed by default, and there's also a libqt3-mt-dev package you would need for compiling.
[08:48] <Przemcio1978> Sanne: i've got libqt3-mt and libqt3-mt-dev
[08:49] <Sanne> Przemcio1978: chances are you don't have the dev package installed yet, and/or Qt is in a location that isn't found by your configure script. Type './configure --help' and check for options to tell about the location of Qt. #
[08:49] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:50] <Sanne> Przemcio1978: I *think* the location should be given as: /usr/share/qt3
[08:50] <Przemcio1978> i've got dev packages, i've laready compiled some of qt software like amarok, kaffeine
[08:51] <Frankenstein> is there a wiki page for the sys requirements? the wiki search isnt working for me
[08:51] <Sanne> Przemcio1978: please check if you can give the program the location of Qt. It really depends how the developers set their configure script up.
[08:53] <Dannilion> !xgl
[08:53] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:54] <cbo> please someone to give some hint on how to install new kdm themes?
[08:55] <ketsugi|zzZ> cbo: you need to run `sudo aptitude install kcontrol-kdmtheme`
[08:55] <ketsugi|zzZ> then you can use kcontrol to install and select new themes
[08:55] <DaSkreech> !seen noisemo
[08:55] <ubotu> I haven't seen noisemo recently
[08:55] <xunq> i need help pleaz http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22649
[08:56] <Przemcio1978> Sanne: giving location doesn't help
[08:56] <cbo> ketsugi: thanks a lot, i would never guess it....
[08:56] <Przemcio1978> i tried  --with-qt=/usr/shate/qt3 and /usr/lib/qt3
[08:57] <Przemcio1978> share*
[08:57] <Sanne> Przemcio1978: try also --with-qt-dir
[08:57] <Sanne> Przemcio1978: or --with-qtdir
[08:57] <DaSkreech> xunq: What's the problem?
[08:58] <xunq> xgl+compiz
[08:58] <Przemcio1978> configure --help plainly says it should be "--with-qt"
[08:59] <Sanne> Przemcio1978: ok, then try also /usr/include/qt3
[08:59] <trappist> xunq: take all the wacom junk out of your xorg.conf
[09:00] <DaSkreech> xunq: try #ubuntu-xgl
[09:00] <DaSkreech> They can help you a lot better :)
kernel 2.6.15-26-686
[09:01] <DaSkreech> xunq: Looks like your $DISPLAY isn't set properly
[09:01] <Sanne> Kurtiz: ok, now let's both go to package.ubuntu.com and search for linux-restricted-modules. In the results page, we search for the modules that match your lernel version.
I also have the 386 version but that has the restricted modules downloaded so the PCMCIA card comes up. But now I am unable to connect to the internet. I can connect to the AP with the Atheros card but I don't seem to be able to ping the gateway. I get an operation not permitted error
[09:02] <xunq> ok i check it
[09:02] <echo1> "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"  I just installed kubuntu and im starting to make things right.  What do I need to install for this error msg to go away
I saw the version I need but until i can connect to the internet I am out of luck. I did the ping via sudo also with no luck and I flushed the iptables
[09:03] <Przemcio1978> Sanne: i think i'll try an earlier version of camstream
[09:04] <Sanne> Kurtiz: what about booting with your old kernel, dwonload the new linux-restricted-modules for your new kernel through adept/synaptic/apt, then reboot into your new kernel and hope for the best?
[09:04] <echo1> "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"  I just installed kubuntu and im starting to make things right.  What do I need to install for this error msg to go away?
[09:04] <xst> After my last dapper upgrade cups printing over ipp stopped working.  Any ideas on how to fix it?
[09:05] <Sanne> Przemcio1978: ok, good luck. A last tip: there's should be also a config.log that may tell you details about what it can't find, may help debugging.
[09:05] <Kurtiz> Sanne:That is the problem. Now even with the old kernel, even though it sees the wireless caard and associates it with the AP I am unable to ping the gateway and DNS is not working
[09:05] <Sanne> Kurtiz: oh
[09:06] <Sanne> Kurtiz: then let's get the module now, download it to a partition you can access from your ubuntu, and install it later with dpkg -i
[09:06] <Kurtiz> Sanne: I must have nerfed my network config somehow. I was messing around getting a firewall running and for it to do NAAT for my Gentoo/Windows desktop.
[09:06] <Kurtiz> Sanne: Ok
[09:06] <skavenge__> echo1: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:07] <echo1> thx
[09:07] <Sanne> Kurtiz: ah, so it may not work at all anymore... you should definitely fix your network before installing, or you would tear out your hair, not knowing where the problem lies. But get the package now anyway. On to packages.ubuntu.com.
[09:07] <Przemcio1978> the same error, it says my qt isn't multithreaded, if so what does this mt in the package name mean?
[09:08] <Sanne> Kurtiz: this one should be it, yes? http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/misc/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686
[09:09] <echo1> "Can't find X includes." What does this mean?
[09:09] <Kurtiz> Sanne:Yah I think I have teh layout of what needs to be done now. Just getting the whole NAT/DHCP/IPTABLES to work the way you want is such a PIA for something that should be simple. The wireless side seems to add some complexity that make what seems easy on paper a nightmare
[09:09] <Kurtiz> Sanne:Yah that looks to be the one
[09:09] <skavenge> you dont have the x sources, if you follow the link !compile gives you if you tyoe it in channel the web link shows the names of what packages you need
[09:09] <skavenge> (echo1)
[09:09] <Sanne> Kurtiz: do you know how to get the package from this page?
[09:10] <echo1> so thats what people have been doing
[09:10] <Kurtiz> Sanne:Yes, I can get it and scp it over
[09:10] <echo1> ok
[09:10] <skavenge> !compile
[09:10] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:11] <Sanne> Kurtiz: ok, then all is left for me is to wish you luck, eh? Because I know nothing whatsoever about NAT/DHCP/IPTABLES unfortunately ;)
[09:11] <echo1> !repositories
[09:11] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:11] <Kurtiz> Sanne:My best guess is IPTABLES has some how along with dhcpd messed up my routing
[09:12] <Kurtiz> Sanne:Thanks for the help. It has given me the direction I need
[09:12] <Sanne> Kurtiz: your guess is much more informed than mine ever could be... ;)
[09:12] <Sanne> Kurtiz: you're welcome :)
[09:15] <ruksen> hi
[09:15] <ruksen> newbie here
[09:16] <groo> ruksen: hi ruksen :)
[09:16] <ruksen> thanks for hi :D
[09:17] <ruksen> does not anybody talk in this channel about kubuntu problems
[09:17] <ruksen> i came to listen
[09:17] <adz21c> maybe its a sign of now problems, how it should be :-P
[09:17] <adz21c> no*
[09:17] <ruksen> how can i have help about installing amule to my ubuntu
[09:18] <Sanne> ruksen: just wait a while, we're just recovering from the last wave pf problems ;)
[09:18] <ruksen> :)
[09:18] <ruksen> do you know any deb packages of amule
[09:19] <ruksen> i mean repository
[09:19] <fyyrest0rm> can someone please help me figure out my screen res problem? All of a sudden it's defaulted to 640x480 and I can't change it..again!
[09:19] <fyyrest0rm> its worked fine for about a week @ 1280x1024..now I reboot and its changed
[09:20] <skavenge> !info amule
[09:20] <ubotu> amule: aNOTHER eMule P2P Client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1173 kB, installed size 3212 kB
[09:20] <we6jbo_> The Internet makes me happy :)
[09:20] <skavenge> ruksen: its in the universe repository, so you need to enabled that
[09:20] <skavenge> !universe
[09:20] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:21] <skavenge> see the repositories link ubotu posted
[09:21] <ruksen> ok i see
[09:21] <ruksen> i will try now
[09:21] <ruksen> skavenge: how can i enable the universe repository
[09:22] <skavenge> follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[09:22] <hybrid> SCREEEECH
[09:22] <hybrid> DASKREECH
[09:22] <DaSkreech> Hi :-
[09:22] <hybrid> INEED SOME HELP
[09:22] <ruksen> ok thanks
[09:22] <hybrid> this is miss chin
[09:22] <hybrid> ;)
[09:22] <DaSkreech> hybrid: Stop shouting and we shall see
[09:22] <hybrid> lol
[09:23] <DaSkreech> Yeah cool :)
[09:23] <DaSkreech>  so what sup?
[09:23] <hybrid> im not gettin anything from sound card
[09:23] <DaSkreech> !sound
[09:23] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:23] <fyyrest0rm> can someone please help me figure out my screen res problem? All of a sudden it's defaulted to 640x480 and I can't change it..again!
[09:23] <Sanne> fyyrest0rm: some of the solutions mentioned here might help you, hopefully already the first one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:23] <DaSkreech> Which sound engine are you using?
[09:24] <fyyrest0rm> Sanne: I'll check it out..thanks
[09:24] <Sanne> fyyrest0rm: you_re welcome
[09:24] <hybrid> no preferences in the list
[09:24] <hybrid> xine
[09:24] <ironfroggy> what would affect the performance of video and flash playback? i have direct rendering enabled, if that is applicable
[09:25] <Sanne> gotta go, bye all
[09:25] <hybrid> gstreamer was installed b4 i upgraded 2 dapper but i cant change it to it
[09:26] <alpha> anyone know a good guild to settng up a vpn server?
[09:26] <DaSkreech> What happened
[09:27] <hybrid> ok
[09:27] <hybrid> changed 2 also
[09:27] <hybrid> alsa...still no sound
[09:28] <milco> COULD anyone be so kind to pastebin he's/her   /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc   file? :-))
[09:28] <fyyrest0rm> ok..dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg did the trick..but does anyone have any ideas about WHY it keeps changing?
[09:29] <DaSkreech> hybrid:  Alsa?
[09:29] <hybrid> o yea...wat hapns if ur pcmcia failed on startup
[09:29] <DaSkreech> Is it a laptop?
[09:29] <hybrid> changing 2 alsa didnt do it
[09:29] <hybrid> nope
[09:30] <hybrid> onboard sound
[09:30] <milco> COULD anyone please be so kind to pastebin he's/her   /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc   file?
[09:30] <DaSkreech> have you read !sound ?
[09:30] <DaSkreech> !sound > hybrid
[09:30] <hybrid> ok
[09:30] <hybrid> !sound
[09:30] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:30] <hybrid> o
[09:30] <hybrid> reading it now
[09:31] <alpha> anyone know a good guild to settng up a vpn server?
[09:32] <ninHer> hi all
[09:34] <ironfroggy> how can i use a USB camera?
[09:34] <ironfroggy> is it possible to be autodetected?
[09:36] <Hawkwind> I prefer to mount things like that manually
[09:36] <Hawkwind> Mine is always /dev/sda1 when I plug mine into the computer
[09:37] <ironfroggy> i dont get it. thats a device for storage.
[09:37] <DaSkreech> hybrid: Ping if you still have issues
[09:38] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: That's exactly what a camera is, a storage device
[09:38] <ironfroggy> no it isnt. its a camera. it takes pictures.
[09:38] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: As is a cardreader.  It's reading the memory of your pictures.  They have to be 'stored' somewhere
[09:39] <ironfroggy> im not using it as a cardreader. thats why i have a cardreader sitting beside it.
[09:39] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: It's a mass media storage device to be exact
[09:39] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: They are all the same is what I'm saying.  Cardreader, camera, they are mass media storage devices.  You can't get around that
[09:39] <hybrid> ahhhhhhhh...finally...
[09:39] <hybrid> daskreech: it finally works
[09:40] <DaSkreech> Excellent
[09:40] <hybrid> daskreech: so wats new on the proj
[09:40] <DaSkreech>  You plugged in the speakers?
[09:40] <hybrid> lol
[09:40] <ironfroggy> Hawkwind: im trying to access my camera as a camera device, not a storage device. they are different. it operates as both.
[09:40] <DaSkreech> We are supposed to be setting it up this week. The problem is that there is no .NET in the labs
[09:40] <ironfroggy> Hawkwind: as in, i want to get the video feed from the camera.
[09:40] <hybrid> very funny...the volume mixer had the speakrs down
[09:40] <hybrid> sux
[09:41] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: Then it's still a mass media storage device.  Regardless of what you are trying to do
[09:41] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: Unplug the camera, in a terminal type: sudo tail -f /var/log/messages   then plug the camera in
[09:41] <ironfroggy> have you ever used a camera as a video device, and not a storage device?
[09:41] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: That will give you some useful information, as well as tell you it's a storage device
[09:41] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: Yes.  My camera does video
[09:42] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: You aren't understanding what I'm saying
[09:42] <milco> !xgl
[09:42] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:42] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: When you plug in a camera, regardless of where or how, it's recognized in linux as a mass media storage device.  Same in Windows and every other OS in the world
[09:43] <ironfroggy> Hawkwind: so how do i access it to acquire video feeds?
[09:43] <Hawkwind> A camera takes pictures, yes.....but it has to store them in some way.  Be it internally or externally
[09:43] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: I access mine the same way.  /dev/sda1  is what my camera always is.
[09:43] <ironfroggy> im not trying to get pictures off the camera that i have taken
[09:43] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: I plug it in to the pc, turn it on, mount it, and then do whatever I want
[09:44] <ironfroggy> i am trying to take pictures with the camera from the pc
[09:44] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: Ughhhhhhhh. I know what you're doing man.  I do this nearly everyday
[09:44] <ironfroggy> cant do that with a storage device interface
[09:44] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: Ok.  Say what you want.  That's exactly how I do mine
[09:44] <proog> i have a weird problem, sometimes there is constant activity on the harddisk - at the same time, everything slows down so the system becomes unusable. any ideas what this is?
[09:44] <ironfroggy> Hawkwind: so you take pictures, connect the camera, and grab the files?
[09:45] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: Sometimes
[09:45] <ruksen> hi, i try to install amule, i have enabled the universe repositories as you said before, now what should i do ?
[09:45] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: Other times I plug it in, mount it and take pictures with the camera via the PC
[09:46] <ironfroggy> Hawkwind: do you connect the camera and then use it as a webcam or a camera controlled from the computer? i dont understand how that is done through a mass storage device interface.
[09:46] <ironfroggy> both technically and interface wise.
[09:46] <ironfroggy> its just presented as a file system.
[09:46] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: I've never personally used it as a webcam, no.  But it has the capabilities
[09:46] <ironfroggy> any idea how you utilize those capabilities? thats what i cant figure out.
[09:46] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: I don't understand it either.  I'm just telling you how it's done with my camera
[09:47] <ironfroggy> you just said you've never done that with your camera.
[09:47] <lordkamau> Hie folks! i am trying to play a dvd  with 'totem movie player' but get an error telling me that i dont have the appropriate plugins to handle it. Any suggestions?
[09:47] <pcdeal> Hi does anyone has experience with postfix?
[09:47] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: I've never used it as a webcam per say.  Meaning as in putting myself onto a feed
[09:47] <proog> no one else has the problem i have?
[09:48] <ironfroggy> Hawkwind: have you ever used it in such a way that your PC instructs your camera to take a picture, or to acquire a live feed from the camera for preview?
[09:48] <Hawkwind> proog: Have you run 'top' when it happens to see what is taking up the CPU ?
[09:48] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: Yes
[09:48] <ruksen> proog, did you try to look what programs are working at background when that activity happens?
[09:49] <lordkamau> Hie folks! i am trying to play a dvd  with 'totem movie player' but get an error telling me that i dont have the appropriate plugins to handle it. Any suggestions?
[09:49] <proog> that is pretty hard to do since no programs will really start or react properly
[09:49] <ironfroggy> Hawkwind: what can be used to do that?
[09:49] <Hawkwind> proog: So run top until it happens
[09:49] <ruksen> proog: did your computer freeze at that times?
[09:49] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: I think gphoto can but I'm not sure.  I use something for E17 specifically
[09:49] <proog> ruksen: yes
[09:49] <ruksen> i had that two times
[09:50] <ruksen> i had to restart my computer
[09:50] <proog> same here
[09:50] <ruksen> but i dont think it was because of hdd
[09:50] <ruksen> but i was really surprised because of that
[09:50] <proog> the hdd light is constantly on when this happens
[09:51] <DaSkreech> proog: Check your memory usage
[09:51] <DaSkreech> !dvd > pcdeal
[09:51] <ironfroggy> Hawkwind: hmm anything not from gnome-land?
[09:52] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: I really don't know since I don't use KDE at all.  I would certainly imagine there is though
[09:52] <proog> ok, thanks all
[09:52] <ruksen> proog: i dont think it happens because of my pc, because i have just switched to kubuntu from xp
[09:52] <DaSkreech> Ack! pcdeal mistell
[09:52] <ironfroggy> Hawkwind: then what are you doing using kubuntu?
[09:52] <ruksen> i liked it
[09:52] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: I like a few KDE apps and prefer KDE over Gnome
[09:52] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: Besides, linux is about choice :)
[09:53] <ironfroggy> well, thanks for all the help
[09:53] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: I just don't use KDE as my window manager of choice
[09:53] <DaSkreech> !dvd > lordkamau
[09:56] <serishema> solaris absolutely refuses to work on my computer :-(
[09:56] <serishema> so i'm trying kubuntu
[09:57] <Bonaldo2000> Hi! Anyone know how I can make the songs placed under "Various Artists" in Amarok to just display under the artist name instead?
[09:57] <hybrid> daskreech: im havin issue wid xgl > im on help.ubuntu site, but this line doesnt work > gksudo gedit /usr/bin/startxgl.sh
[09:57] <hybrid> i replaced gedit wid kate since im on kubuntu dapper
[09:59] <magical_trevsky> hi, can anyone tell me how to list all the logged in users on my system from the terminal?
[10:00] <ironfroggy> magical_trevsky: its an archaic and mystically named command: users
[10:01] <magical_trevsky> ironfroggy, i swear there was a program which used to list where they were logged on from and stuff though
[10:01] <ironfroggy> who
[10:01] <Darkkish> hey guys
[10:01] <Darkkish> i know i havn't been around for a while
[10:01] <magical_trevsky> ironfroggy, that's the one, thanks :)
[10:01] <Darkkish> i'll be out and idk when i
[10:01] <Darkkish> will be back >.<
[10:04] <trappist> magical_trevsky: also try 'who'
[10:04] <lordkamau> thanks ubotu
[10:06] <Darkkish> mk well i'
[10:06] <Darkkish> will bbl
[10:06] <Darkkish> see you
[10:06] <Ingmar^> my kde settings all reverted to the KDE defaults, how do i get the ubuntu defaults back ?
[10:06] <Ingmar^> is there some package to (re)install ?
[10:07] <trappist> Ingmar^: mv ~/.kde ~/.kdeold
[10:08] <Ingmar^> and reboot ?
[10:08] <trappist> just log out and back in
[10:08] <Kr4t05> bah
[10:08] <Ingmar^> alright
[10:08] <Kr4t05> this is nuts
[10:08] <Kr4t05> !edgy
[10:08] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:08] <Ingmar^> thanks trappist
[10:09] <trappist> np
[10:12] <ruksen> hi there, what does "sudo sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin" means
[10:12] <ruksen> what is sh?
[10:12] <checho> alguien que me pueda ayudar a configurar mi amarok ?
[10:12] <checho> es que acabo de instalar mi kubuntu
[10:13] <trappist> !es
[10:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:13] <checho> jaja si creo gracias n_n
[10:13] <trappist> ruksen: sh is a shell.  on dapper it's a link to /bin/bash.  you would use it to execute stuff that's not executable.
[10:13] <admin___> no cose] [[erfiki9/[
[10:14] <admin___> i'do
[10:14] <ruksen> trappist: how can i execute a stuff that is not executable?
[10:14] <trappist> ruksen: by running it with sh
[10:15] <trappist> ruksen: the alternative to using sh is to make it executable
[10:15] <ruksen> trappist: :) i mean what is the aim to do that
[10:15] <ruksen> trappist: is sh something like bash?
[10:15] <milco> !xgl
[10:15] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:15] <milco> zzz
[10:15] <trappist> ruksen: so you don't have to say chmod +x GoogleEarthLinux.bin.  it makes writing docs simpler.
[10:15] <trappist> ruksen: on dapper, sh *is* bash.
[10:15] <lupine_85> bash is almost equivalent to sh
[10:15] <Darkkish> lol crap
[10:15] <Darkkish> i forgot my password
[10:15] <lupine_85> non-POSIX scripts should be run using sh, IIRC
[10:16] <lupine_85> whereas POSIX scripts should use bash
[10:16] <ruksen> trappist : thanks
[10:16] <lupine_85> (might be the other way round, though)
[10:16] <james_xxx> lupine_85: is it safe to install the updated ralink drivers? :-D
[10:16] <lupine_85> james_xxx: yes :)
[10:16] <trappist> lupine_85: I disagree.  dash is POSIX compatible, and a lot of non-POSIX-compatible stuff breaks in dash, because the scripts are really just bash-compatible
[10:16] <james_xxx> sweet
[10:17] <trappist> lupine_85: oh, and in edgy, sh is dash.
[10:17] <lupine_85> trappist: bash-compatible scripts aren't necessarily POSIX-compatible...
[10:17] <lupine_85> ...the principle still stands
[10:17] <holy_cow> How do I disable bluetooth and other things that are loaded when kubuntu boots?
[10:18] <lupine_85> sh if your script is POSIX-compliant. bash (or, I suppose, other interpretor) for non-posix-compliant
[10:18] <trappist> lupine_85: the example is a non-posix script that uses sh, and breaks because sh is dash.  so, should be the other way around imo.
[10:18] <james_xxx> lupine_85: one more question.... have people have much luck getting linksys wusb54gs v.2 working with ubuntu?
[10:18] <james_xxx> had*
[10:18] <lupine_85> trappist: I see what you mean now :). Yes, it is the other way round
[10:18] <lupine_85> d'oh
[10:18] <trappist> :)
[10:19] <lupine_85> james_xxx: I think that's an ndiswrapper jobbie
[10:19] <lupine_85> not really sure
[10:19] <james_xxx> lupine_85: ok, just wondered
[10:19] <lupine_85> Only v4 is ralink
[10:19] <lupine_85> incidentally, I now have amd64 drivers :)
[10:20] <lupine_85> spread the word! :D
[10:20] <james_xxx> will do
[10:20] <Kr4t05> blarg...
[10:20] <Darkkish> yeah i have no idea what my nickserv pass is >.<
[10:21] <james_xxx> well, i thibnk wusb54g v.4 is ralink.... but with wusb54gs v.2... i am halfway thinking that may be ralink , too. not sure at the momnt
[10:22] <Darkkish> my mouse feels really different than in windows
[10:22] <Darkkish> its really jerky and i can't configure it to feel smooth
[10:22] <Darkkish> it feels like mouse acceleration
[10:22] <Darkkish> where at first its slow and then it goes realyl fast
[10:23] <lupine_85> v4 is defo. ralink
[10:24] <james_xxx> defo?
[10:24] <james_xxx> definitely??
[10:26] <Darkkish> anyone know why my USB harddrive won't mount?
[10:26] <Darkkish> wasn't having any problems when it when i left my computer
[10:27] <DaSkreech> how do you use yes?
[10:28] <Darkkish> nvm
[10:28] <Darkkish> aperently the USB in the front of my computer doesn't work today
[10:30] <Dannilion> um, anyone know if it
[10:30] <Dannilion> it's possible to download kubuntu-desktop 3.5.3?
[10:31] <gnomefreak> Dannilion: yes the repo is on kubuntu.org
[10:31] <Dannilion> thanks gnomefreak :) I might be able to save my Kubuntu after all :)
[10:31] <alpha> anyone know a good guild to settng up a vpn server?
[10:33] <trappist> like mage's guild, fighter's guild, ipsec guild?
[10:34] <Darkkish> yay
[10:34] <Darkkish> wine updated and now WoW doesn't work
[10:35] <zorgluu1> "dont update a working computer!" :)
[10:35] <zorgluu1> my moto :)
[10:35] <Darkkish> yeah no kidding
[10:35] <Darkkish> it didn't work right tho
[10:35] <Darkkish> i thought maybe that would fix it
[10:36] <Darkkish> it worked but...
[10:36] <Darkkish> not perfectly
[10:36] <zorgluu1> ah ok, it is another thing then
[10:36] <Darkkish> lolol wtf
[10:36] <trappist> zorgluu1: mine is "if it ain't broke, tweak it"
[10:36] <Darkkish> i'm in directx instead of opengl
[10:36] <Darkkish> and all of the outside textures are SCREWED UP
[10:37] <Darkkish> its actually funny
[10:37] <zorgluu1> trappist: :)
[10:37] <Darkkish> heh
[10:39] <Blissex> Darkkish: Dannilion: ever heard of ''begging for trouble'' or ''the bleeding edge''? :-)
[10:39] <Dannilion> Yup :P
[10:39] <Darkkish> lol
[10:40] <Darkkish> i'm going to play with the wine settings maybe get something working >.<
[10:40] <Darkkish> its like the textures are all screwed up in wow even in opengl
[10:40] <Electrolyte> WoW is Dx, what do you expect? ;)
[10:40] <Darkkish> it worked last time i tried it
[10:40] <Electrolyte> And I can't believe you're playing that awful game :P
[10:41] <Darkkish> its not awful
[10:41] <Electrolyte> I wasted 35 on it :(
[10:42] <Electrolyte> Played it for a couple of hours, then didn't bother with it :(
[10:42] <Darkkish> anyways guys
[10:42] <Darkkish> its a popular game and a big reason people don't switch over to linux
[10:42] <Darkkish> and if we get wow running well on wine without cedega
[10:42] <Darkkish> more people will use linux
[10:42] <Electrolyte> I'm not counting on that.
[10:42] <Darkkish> its true
[10:42] <Electrolyte> Most people won't bother to hassle with Linux.
[10:42] <Darkkish> why do you think i havn't been her so long lol
[10:44] <Electrolyte> I've only been here since yesterday :P
[10:44] <Electrolyte> Already got my main game running, being UT2004.
[10:44] <Darkkish> its a problem with the WoW 1.12 patch
[10:45] <trappist> Electrolyte: 3> ut2004.  but you're a real man when you've got it working 64bit, with sound
[10:45] <Darkkish> LMAO
[10:45] <Darkkish> <3 *
[10:45] <Electrolyte> It's not 64-bit actually :P
[10:45] <Darkkish> true
[10:45] <Electrolyte> 32-bit, but sound works.
[10:45] <trappist> yeah, 32bit is easy
[10:45] <trappist> works out of the box
[10:45] <Electrolyte> No point in going for 64-bit
[10:45] <Electrolyte> No speed increase, just more hassle.
[10:45] <Darkkish> trappist,  are you saying you have 64bit wine?
[10:45] <Darkkish> yeah
[10:45] <Electrolyte> UT2004 doesn't use Wine.
[10:46] <trappist> Darkkish: sort of, but ut2004 is native linux
[10:46] <Darkkish> oh
[10:46] <Darkkish> wow i should install it
[10:46] <Darkkish> lol
[10:46] <trappist> Darkkish: I run wine in a 32bit chroot on an amd64 system
[10:46] <Electrolyte> Yeah - UT2004 has an OpenGL graphics engine.
[10:46] <Darkkish> yeah
[10:46] <Electrolyte> Which, actually runs better under Linux than Windows.
[10:46] <we6jbo> I have a question
[10:46] <Darkkish> shoot
[10:46] <we6jbo> Is there an easy shortcut key that i can press to logout and turn off the computer?
[10:46] <Darkkish> ctrl alt bckspace
[10:47] <trappist> Darkkish: that won't do it
[10:47] <Darkkish> that logs off
[10:47] <we6jbo> instead of going to k and then logout
[10:47] <Darkkish> ctrl alt backspace so does log you off lol
[10:47] <Darkkish> why are you afraid of people seeing you run linux :p
[10:48] <we6jbo> cause I want to turn my computer off but I don't want to click on k and then log out and then turn off
[10:48] <trappist> oh I had half an answer for him, but he's gone
[10:49] <Darkkish> lol
[10:49] <Darkkish> he probably tried what i siad :p
[10:49] <Darkkish> he'll probably be back
[10:50] <Kr4t05> gar
[10:52] <gnuton> kdelibs4-doc 3.5.4-0ubuntu2~dapper1 is EMPTY! :(
[10:53] <Kr4t05> Man, dist-upgrading takes awhile.
[10:54] <trappist> gnuton: no it's not, it installs a copyright file, a changelog and lots of directories :)
[10:54] <Darkkish> this is the WoW error i get
[10:54] <Darkkish> fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x34e550,0x00000000), stub!
[10:54] <Darkkish> err:wgl:wglGetPixelFormatAttribivARB Unable to convert iPixelFormat 0 to a GLX one, expect problems!
[10:54] <gnuton> trappist: :P
[10:55] <Darkkish> someone must know what that means
[10:55] <judibet> Bonjour tout le monde !
[10:56] <judibet> Hi everybody !
[10:57] <Darkkish> how do i um... install the last version of wine?
[10:58] <Darkkish> as in the one before this one
[10:58] <lupine_85> apt-get install wine=version
[10:58] <Darkkish> uninstall this one first?
[11:01] <thompa> what does this mean? .. Received CTCP-PING request
[11:02] <Darkkish> nothing
[11:02] <Darkkish> its just an IRC thing
[11:02] <Darkkish> ctcp = client to client protocol
[11:02] <thompa> ok
[11:02] <Darkkish> its just another form of /notice and things like that
[11:03] <DaSkreech> aseigo: ping
[11:03] <Darkkish> any idea what the last version of wine is?
[11:04] <thedcm> yeah
[11:04] <thedcm> it's CVS
[11:04] <Darkkish> the number
[11:04] <judibet> I'm tired, i'll left !
[11:04] <SeanTater> Pinger!
[11:04] <judibet> See U all !
[11:04] <SeanTater> thedcm was just removed from #debian for ctcp pinging
[11:04] <SeanTater> thedcm is also here
[11:05] <Darkkish> yeah i'm getting ping spam from thedcm
[11:05] <SeanTater> same here
[11:05] <alessandro_> hallo
[11:05] <Dannilion> me too
[11:05] <Electrolyte> thedcm - why do you keep sending me CTCP-PING?
[11:05] <mindspin> yup?
[11:05] <thedcm> I want to give you CTCP-PING
[11:05] <Dannilion> don't!
[11:05] <Electrolyte> Don't please, it's rather annoying.
[11:05] <thedcm> sorries
[11:05] <Dannilion> It's annoying
[11:06] <alessandro_> why kaffeine doesn't play my mp3?
[11:06] <Darkkish> hehe
[11:06] <lupine_85> yeah, me too
[11:06] <Darkkish> there is no mp3 support by default
[11:06] <Darkkish> don't ask me how to install it though
[11:06] <alessandro_> what I have to  do?
[11:06] <alessandro_> sorry
[11:06] <trappist> gnuton: please confirm this bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/59088
[11:07] <Darkkish> lol
[11:07] <alessandro_> how I can fix it?
[11:07] <DaSkreech> !mp3 > alessandro_
[11:07] <Tokeiito> labas vakaras (good evening)
[11:07] <bobbin> I just upgraded to edgy. Does anyone know why kmail (works outside kontact) doesn't appear in kontact anymore?
[11:08] <lupine_85> #ubuntu+1
[11:08] <Darkkish> arwg;we3kj5g;laekrjjkjg
[11:08] <zorgluu1> i got Darkkish password !!! :)
[11:08] <bobbin> lupine_85:cheers
[11:08] <Darkkish> really
[11:08] <Darkkish> seriously?
[11:09] <Darkkish> can you give it to me >.<
[11:09] <zorgluu1> arwg;we3kj5g;laekrjjkjg
[11:09] <Darkkish> oh
[11:09] <zorgluu1> see ? :)
[11:09] <Darkkish> yeah oops
[11:09] <Darkkish> accedentally entered that into chat didn't io
[11:09] <Darkkish> silly me now i have to change it
[11:09] <Darkkish> anyone have any idea what the version number of the last version of wine is?
[11:11] <Ducco> the install freezez after all the pre install thing..all checks ok...
[11:11] <Darkkish> so no one knows?
[11:12] <Ducco> dunno
[11:13] <angasule_> Darkkish: the last version available in kubuntu or the last version available from winehq.com ?
[11:13] <Darkkish> kubuntu
[11:13] <Darkkish> as in the one before this current version
[11:13] <kirikou> hey, how can I upgrade some files i need to install a program
[11:13] <trappist> Darkkish: head /usr/share/doc/wine/changelog.Debian.gz
[11:14] <kirikou> like libc6 2.3.6-0 to 2.3.6-6
[11:14] <angasule_> !adept
[11:14] <trappist> kirikou: you don't, not without upgrading your whole distro
[11:14] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[11:14] <kirikou> if it isn't possible in adapt
[11:14] <trappist> kirikou: pretty much everything on your system is built against your version of libc6.  if you just try to upgrade it, you will be sad.
[11:14] <kirikou> i need it to install yafray
[11:15] <kirikou> i want to install the latest yafray
[11:15] <kirikou> i mean
[11:15] <trappist> kirikou: that sounds unlikely.  how are you trying to build it.
[11:15] <lupine_85> use a chroot?
[11:15] <lupine_85> that'd be your safest bet
[11:15] <kirikou> don't know, it gives me some erros
[11:15] <kirikou> errors like that one
[11:15] <kirikou> so i have to use an older version of that program
[11:16] <trappist> kirikou: how are you trying to build it.
[11:16] <kirikou> don't know
[11:16] <kirikou> i only use apt-get or install it from src
[11:16] <kirikou> so this was with a deb-file
[11:17] <kirikou> is
[11:17] <kirikou> maybe it works with the src of yafray
[11:17] <kirikou> i'll give that a try
[11:17] <Darkkish> damnit >.<
[11:17] <Darkkish> i wish i knew which version of wine i had
[11:18] <Dannilion> my kubuntu is back to normal :)
[11:20] <GillesM> hello I have problems to boot with live cd 6.06 on geforce 6000 ...
[11:20] <DaSkreech> wine -v ?
[11:21] <Darkkish> yay i got wine working
[11:21] <Darkkish> lol
[11:21] <Darkkish> i installed the latest version and turned the Vsync on
[11:21] <Darkkish> now everything looks fine
[11:21] <Kr4t05> Someone want to clue me into the best method of killing X?
[11:21] <Darkkish> but damn
[11:22] <Darkkish> ctrl alt backspace?
[11:22] <Darkkish> getting the vsync on was a problem with the video errors i was having
[11:22] <FurthuR> id say ctrl alt bkpc yea
[11:24] <Darkkish> ok now
[11:24] <Darkkish> someone needs to teach me how to get sound working in wine
[11:26] <redhand> why didn't kubuntu comes with update-manager ??
[11:26] <redhand> i have to install manualy
[11:28] <arepie> redhand: adept is an update manager?? :s
[11:28] <Darkkish> damn ok i figured out some of the wine issue
[11:28] <FurthuR> yep
[11:28] <Darkkish> it seems to be when i enter a building
[11:29] <redhand> arepie, oh! i didn't know about it... but i prefer update-manager from ubuntu
[11:29] <GillesM> any idea about my graphic problem when I install kubuntu with a geforce card?
[11:31] <Hagbarddenstore> What's the name of that interface you can use to control amarok and some other stuf?
[11:31] <Hagbarddenstore> dcop or something...
[11:32] <trappist> Hagbarddenstore: yeah there's dcop
[11:32] <trappist> Hagbarddenstore: you can run kdcop to get kind of a gui interface to it
[11:32] <Hagbarddenstore> trappist: That one.. thanks
[11:32] <GillesM> I have a graphic problem when I boot Livecd
[11:32] <GillesM> because I have a geforce
[11:33] <GillesM> is there a way ?
[11:33] <Darkkish> what model?
[11:33] <Hagbarddenstore> Problems with Live cause of Geforce? :S
[11:33] <Darkkish> no way
[11:33] <redhand> Geforce is always a solution, not a problem :p
[11:33] <Darkkish> i have a GeForce 6600GT
[11:33] <GillesM> Hagbarddenstore:  yes
[11:33] <Darkkish> no problem with live CD
[11:34] <redhand> video[nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  @ Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  741/741GX/M741 Host]
[11:34] <redhand> perfect here
[11:34] <Hagbarddenstore> I have no trouble with my Geforce nor the girls Intel
[11:34] <GillesM> when X is launched the screen is splitted
[11:34] <Darkkish> lol do you have an LCD moniter?
[11:34] <GillesM> I am on AMD64
[11:34] <Darkkish> gilles
[11:34] <Darkkish> do you have an LCD moniter?
[11:34] <GillesM> yes an LCD monitor
[11:34] <Darkkish> does it have an auto button?
[11:35] <GillesM> what is an AUTO button ?
[11:35] <Darkkish> like...
[11:35] <redguy> howdy, can anyone tell me what are *.new files in my ~/.kde/share/config/ for?
[11:35] <Darkkish> brb
[11:35] <Darkkish> GillesM, Auto config button
[11:36] <Darkkish> that should solve your problem
[11:36] <GillesM> yes I have an auto button on the monitor
[11:36] <Darkkish> it seems to be an issue with some LCDs when linux loads
[11:36] <Darkkish> wait for the picture to fully load and then use that button and it should fix it
[11:36] <Darkkish> but
[11:36] <GillesM> when do I need to press it ?
[11:36] <Darkkish> when you say split
[11:36] <Darkkish> you just mean like the picture is oppisite and there is black down the middle right?
[11:37] <GillesM> a middle of screen is blue like kubuntu and the other is black when X is launched
[11:38] <Darkkish> hmm
[11:38] <Darkkish> well try that, not positive that will fix it
[11:38] <Darkkish> but it sounds to me like that could easily be the problem
[11:38] <Darkkish> lol
[11:38] <Hagbarddenstore> Neat
[11:38] <GillesM> before I installed kubuntu I needed to install gforce driver by aptget
[11:39] <Darkkish> GillesM, i don'
[11:39] <Darkkish> i don;t know
[11:39] <Darkkish> i have a geforce and no problems with it
[11:39] <Darkkish> sorry i can't be of any more help :(
[11:39] <GillesM> the auto button doesn't have any effect
[11:39] <GillesM> thanks
[11:40] <GillesM> is there a way to install kubuntu without livecd ?
[11:41] <trappist> GillesM: yes, there's an "alternate" installer, I recently learned
[11:41] <trappist> has to be downloaded separately
[11:41] <GillesM> ok and the installation is simple ?
[11:41] <Darkkish> hahahhha
[11:42] <GillesM> other question : on AMD64 can I install a 386 kubuntu ?
[11:42] <Darkkish> i tried installing kubuntu before it had live CD and it took me about 4 try's to get it right :(
[11:42] <Darkkish> yeah
[11:42] <Darkkish> infact
[11:42] <Darkkish> you should
[11:42] <Darkkish> you'll have troubles with X64 kubuntu
[11:42] <Darkkish> not alot of support for it
[11:42] <GillesM> ok
[11:42] <Darkkish> i run 32bit on my AMD64
[11:43] <GillesM> ok
[11:43] <Sanne> GillesM: alternate installer is pretty straightforward. If you want/need to partition your drive you would have to concentrate a bit in that section, but that's all.
[11:43] <GillesM> ok
[11:44] <kirikou> stupid, why use other programs library's that doesn't yet are used in the latest version of kubuntu?
[11:44] <Sanne> as for amd64, well, I run it and don't have many problems
[11:45] <lupine_85> I run x86 because I can't be bothered with the chroot/mixed environment faffing :)
[11:45] <kirikou> i have it about this for example :  libc6 2.3.6-6
[11:46] <lupine_85> if you don't want flash and various other 3rd-party binaries only available on 32-bit, then you might as well go amd64
[11:46] <Sanne> lupine_85: it's mostly a matter of taste and priorities, I guess.
[11:46] <lupine_85> true :)
[11:46] <lupine_85> no great advantage right now to running amd64, unless you're doing computationally-intensive stuff, or have many GB of RAM
[11:47] <Darkkish> yeah the limit of ram you can have with a 64bit processer is 16TB
[11:47] <lupine_85> corr :)
[11:48] <lupine_85> hmm. I think I need some more SDRAM slots...
[11:49] <trappist> lupine_85: also, you don't have to say goodbye to stuff like flash when you go amd64
[11:49] <Sanne> trappist: no need to do that with 64bit either. You would need to be willing to do some manual tinkering, though.
[11:50] <trappist> Sanne: yeah I think that's what I said :)
[11:50] <lupine_85> I know, but it's a pain to get running
[11:50] <lupine_85> more effort than I'm willing to put in just to get YouTube running :)
[11:50] <Sanne> trappist: not exactly "goodbye" ;)
[11:50] <trappist> lupine_85: that's true.  but in my experience it's worth it.  a lot of stuff is a lot snappier on amd64.
[11:50] <lupine_85> my experience is "not much difference" :)
[11:51] <trappist> I think we should have a 32bit chroot package, which installs ready-to-go
[11:51] <Sanne> One reason is there, though, that I find important: to get stuff supported on 64bit, we have to actually use 64bit. So, the more the merrier :)
[11:52] <trappist> Sanne: we're lucky to get stuff supported on 32bit.  I'm not holding my breath for 64bit flash :)
[11:52] <Sanne> trappist: it will come (someday...). In the meantime, I'll just use 32bit firefox with 32bit flash.
[11:52] <trappist> me too.
[11:52] <Sanne> heh
[11:52] <aseigo> DaSkreech: pong
[11:53] <trappist> in a chroot on amd64 :)
[11:53] <Darkkish> yay i narrowed down the WoW problem
[11:53] <Darkkish> it's a UI issue
[11:53] <trappist> Sanne: word on the street is it's possible to use flash with a 64bit firefox, but I haven't looked into it.
[11:53] <Darkkish> when you press alt-z to disable the UI in wow and then attempt to recreate the problem nothing happens
[11:53] <Sanne> trappist: I didn't set up a chroot, I installed the 32bit compatibility libs.
[11:53] <trappist> Darkkish: have you asked anyone on #winehq?
[11:54] <Sanne> trappist: oh, do you happen to have a link to flash on 64bit firefox, by any chance?
[11:54] <Darkkish> no lol good idea
[11:54] <Darkkish> er
[11:54] <Darkkish> that chan is empty?
[11:54] <altprsona> how do i configure my 5 button mouse? , im on the latest stable release
[11:54] <trappist> Sanne: no, I just kinda heard about it.  haven't checked it out at all.
[11:55] <Darkkish> trappist,  that chan is empty lol
[11:55] <trappist> Darkkish: oh, maybe it's just #wine
[11:55] <Sanne> trappist: thanks anyway for mentioning it (giving me ideas) :)
[11:55] <trappist> Sanne: anytime
[11:55] <h3sp4wn> Darkkish: #winehq it is
[11:57] <Sanne> Darkkish: there's even #linux-gamers.net (only 19 people there, though)
[11:58] <Darkkish> trappist, oops when you typed it and i joined it i just realised the channel is '#winehq?' XD
[11:59] <trappist> Darkkish: haha
[12:00] <Darkkish> man no one is talking in #winehq
[12:02] <h3sp4wn> Darkkish: Most channels are slower than this one (especially ones development channels)
[12:07] <Mangix> anyone here?
[12:07] <Mangix> got a small question
[12:07] <apokryphos> !ask
[12:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:07] <Mangix> allright then
[12:08] <Mangix> right now, my motherboard has integrated audio(which was extremely buggy on windows)
[12:08] <Mangix> if i reenable it, would it work in Kubuntu?
[12:08] <lupine_85> Mangix: might do. worth a try
[12:08] <kenan> hi everyone
[12:08] <Mangix> because my current soundcard sounds nasty on Kubuntu
[12:08] <kenan> my problem is installing software
[12:09] <h3sp4wn> Mangix: What is your current soundcard ?
[12:09] <kenan> can anyone help me
[12:09] <kenan> i am new to linux
[12:09] <kenan> i am now coming off of windows
[12:09] <Mangix> h3sp4wn: a Diamond Multimedia MX300 Aureal Vortex2 one


[20:15] <jiger> shani kaminay
[22:31] <jiger> shani kaminay
[22:40] <MuNna> shani kaminay
[23:35] <MuNna> shani


[12:33]  * ginggs retries all the things
[12:34] <ginggs> failed builds a few hours ago, regressed autopkgtests now
[16:58] <alkisg> There's a bug that prevents all non-gnome installations of the 22.04 daily builds: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1951399
[16:58] <alkisg> The only way around it is to comment-out the aptsetup failure/exception by editing ubiquity's sources...


[12:22] <markginter31> is this a good place to ask questions about laptops suspending and resuming?
[12:27] <persia> Not especially.  It's a good place to ask for help in reporting that a specific laptop has issues suspending and resuming with a specific default image or install, and get guidance to file a bug.
[12:28] <markginter31> I would like to do just such a thing :)  what files/info is needed?
[12:28] <persia> Unfortunately, I'm not a good person to answer that :)
[12:29] <persia> I think it's make, model, /var/log/dmesg, output of lspci -vvnn, output of lsusb -b (with no external devices), and a clear description of the results of attempts to suspend/hibernate or restore from either state.
[12:29] <persia> If nobody else gives better advice, I'd start with that.
[12:29] <markginter31> persia - excusing my ignorance -- do I post that here?
[12:30] <persia> markginter31, No, you'll want to file a bug on launchpad.
[12:30]  * persia asks for more guidance
[12:31] <markginter31> persia -- ok.  I think I already have an account there.  It's frustrating because OpenSuse 11.1 beta5 suspends/resumes flawlessly -- but Ubuntu doesn't have the s2ram command which seems to be the only one that works on my laptop...
[12:31] <persia> According to the folks in #ubuntu-bugs, "linux" might be a good package choice, so you'd want https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+filebug
[12:32] <markginter31> wow - fast - thanks
[12:33] <persia> There's probably some way to get s2ram working, but best is to report precisely which version of ubuntu, and the details about the problem to the bug.
[12:33] <persia> I don't know that s2ram is the right solution: although it may work, I suspect the right answer is to have one tool that works for everyone.
[12:35] <markginter31> persia - I assume that Fedora/SuSE/Ubuntu all use different tools to suspend?
[12:36] <persia> I actually don't know.  I think there are a variety of competing methods on the net, and it may be that different distributions select the same tool or different ones.
[13:56] <ottoshmidt> A4Tech Webcam doesn't work properly on 8.10, it did on 8.04 :((((
[13:59] <persia> ottoshmidt, Report a bug against libv4l with detailed information about the Webcam, and tag it "regression".
[13:59] <ottoshmidt> never done it before, dunno how :((
[14:02] <markginter31> ottoshmidt -- go to launchpad -- open an account -- file the bug (it steps you through) and done! :)
[14:02] <ottoshmidt> ok I'll try


[00:52] <mup> Bug #1876217 opened: Controllers report Ubuntu Core version in the Snap <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1876217>
[01:07] <mup> Bug #1876217 changed: Controllers report Ubuntu Core version in the Snap <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1876217>
[01:16] <mup> Bug #1876217 opened: Controllers report Ubuntu Core version in the Snap <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1876217>
[18:48] <mup> Bug #1874439 changed: Use standard notifications for deprecation notices <MAAS:Fix Released by ack> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1874439>
[18:48] <mup> Bug #1874538 changed: Adding LXD Pod with pre-composed resources errors out <MAAS:Fix Released by newell-jensen> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1874538>
[18:48] <mup> Bug #1874917 changed: MAAS commissioning hook can not handle bonds <MAAS:Fix Released by ltrager> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1874917>
[18:57] <mup> Bug #1874439 opened: Use standard notifications for deprecation notices <MAAS:Fix Released by ack> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1874439>
[18:57] <mup> Bug #1874538 opened: Adding LXD Pod with pre-composed resources errors out <MAAS:Fix Released by newell-jensen> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1874538>
[18:57] <mup> Bug #1874917 opened: MAAS commissioning hook can not handle bonds <MAAS:Fix Released by ltrager> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1874917>
[19:03] <mup> Bug #1874439 changed: Use standard notifications for deprecation notices <MAAS:Fix Released by ack> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1874439>
[19:03] <mup> Bug #1874538 changed: Adding LXD Pod with pre-composed resources errors out <MAAS:Fix Released by newell-jensen> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1874538>
[19:03] <mup> Bug #1874917 changed: MAAS commissioning hook can not handle bonds <MAAS:Fix Released by ltrager> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1874917>
[19:27] <mup> Bug #1876365 opened: host passthrough not working with KVMs <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1876365>
[19:30] <mup> Bug #1876365 changed: host passthrough not working with KVMs <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1876365>
[19:33] <mup> Bug #1876365 opened: host passthrough not working with KVMs <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1876365>


[03:21] <MichaelP> I thought ubuntu 13.10 was shiped with the Mir
[03:25] <SonikkuAmerica> It'll make its way into the repos as soon as the biggest bugs get resolved.
[03:28] <MichaelP> Ohh ok.. That was the only reason i downloaded 13.10 was to check out Mir... Been running kubuntu 13.04... Downloaded 13.10 with gnome... Gnome gave about 50 crash's in about an hour... Installed kubuntu-desktop.. 2 hours smooth as can be.. not 1 crash
[03:31] <trism> bug 1203207 just popped up so it is probably on its way (mir for mir, hehe)
[03:36] <MichaelP> so sence there giving a ppa for it does that mean its ready ?
[09:14] <jakubo> hi, the newest kernel package seems not to contain usb audio devices as it is impossible to load snd_usb_audio
[09:14] <jakubo> where shall i report it?
[09:14] <jakubo> if at all..
[09:16] <jakubo> and for those wondering why they have no alsamixer on usbaudio devices (like me) its prohibited to load as primary audio device in alsa-base.conf (index -2 at eof)
[11:54] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[16:38] <JustM0Bin> hey guys i have 13.10 and i need some up with samba and folder sharing
[16:40] <JustM0Bin> i set up samba correctly but when i try to enable "share this folder" i get the error "net usershare" returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Unexpected information recieved
[16:52] <Ampelbein> JustM0Bin: what does "testparm /etc/samba/smb.conf" say?
[16:54] <JustM0Bin> it says loaded services file ok  server ROLE_STANDALONE
[16:54] <JustM0Bin> press enter to see a dump of your service definitions
[16:54] <Ampelbein> yeah, that seems fine.
[16:54] <Ampelbein> Can you put the smb.conf on a pastebin somewhere? Check for passwords in the file first.
[16:55] <JustM0Bin> yes i can give me a sec
[16:59] <JustM0Bin> http://pastebin.com/czBkzgQE  <-- here it is
[17:02] <Ampelbein> JustM0Bin: Few things to try/check: Are you a member of the sambashare group? (Just type "groups" in terminal, look for that)
[17:04] <JustM0Bin> i typed in groups and this came up "justm0bin adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[17:04] <Ampelbein> ok
[17:04] <JustM0Bin> is that the groups i am in?
[17:04] <Ampelbein> yes, that are the groups.
[17:04] <JustM0Bin> oh ok im not crazy new at this stuff but theres still a lot i dont know haha
[17:05] <Ampelbein> JustM0Bin: You could try: Remove from /etc/samba/smb.conf: "username map = /etc/samba/smbusers" and "usershare allow guests = yes"
[17:05] <Ampelbein> JustM0Bin: Then sudo service samba restart
[17:05] <Ampelbein> And try again.
[17:06] <JustM0Bin> do you just want me to take it out of the file?
[17:08] <Ampelbein> JustM0Bin: Just put "#" in front, that deactivates the options.
[17:12] <JustM0Bin> ok wait its saying i dont have permission to save the file
[17:16] <Ampelbein> JustM0Bin: yeah, you have to do "sudo editor /etc/samba/smb.conf"
[17:23] <JustM0Bin> ok sorry so i did sudo service samba restart and it says Samba: unrecognized service
[17:29] <Ampelbein> JustM0Bin: Oh, I think the service is now called samba4 under 13.10, sorry.
[17:30] <JustM0Bin> no worries! but it said the same thing
[17:34] <Ampelbein> Hmm.
[17:35] <Ampelbein> JustM0Bin: Could you just restart your computer and see if the issue is fixed?
[17:35] <JustM0Bin> yup! im doing it now and thanks a lot man i really appreciate it
[17:41] <genii> Hm. Searching packages.ubuntu.com saucy packages for samba4 package or smb.conf file produces nothing.
[17:44] <Ampelbein> genii: then your packages.ubuntu.com is broken ;-) http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/saucy/samba4
[17:45] <genii> Maybe it's my Firefox Nightly acting up
[17:46] <d-snp_> hey, the mir channel is a bit empty, does anyone know if there's a simple window manager for mir anywhere that I could try out?
[17:46] <genii> ( errors out on smb.conf search, for samba4 package search I get "Sorry, your search gave no results"
[17:46] <Ampelbein> Wait, something IS broken at packages.ubuntu.com. It doesn't show binary packages for samba4
[17:47] <d-snp_> I am able to run mir (though booting into it doesn't seem to work very well), but I can only run the demo apps
[17:47] <Ampelbein> And in fact, it doesn't seem to show any binary packages in saucy.
[17:48] <Ampelbein> So, yeah, packages.ubuntu.com is defunct for binary packages for now.
[17:52] <penguin42> yeh it doesn't show saucy stuff
[17:52] <penguin42> I was told it'll get fixed on saucy release
[18:24] <IdleOne> is it safe to upgrade yet?
[18:25] <penguin42> well it's still every early so if it works now it might eat your cat next week
[18:25] <IdleOne> But I love my cat :/
[18:25] <penguin42> then be careful with alpha software
[18:26] <IdleOne> I'm not willing to have down time right now. I'll wait a little longer
[18:26] <IdleOne> thanks penguin42
[18:26] <penguin42> having said that, on KDE it's working fine for me at the moment (Note: I don't have a cat)
[18:54] <genii> My cat is fast enough to eat any salamander that might wander her way.
[18:56] <genii> Also I do feel it's a bit more stable on KDE than Unity
[19:01] <penguin42> I think Unity pushes GL drivers a bit harder
[19:02] <penguin42> (which is kind of scary, since that always used to be KDE that used to break)
[20:55] <gaz1310> $1gazhead
[21:03] <genii> Hm.
[22:43] <penguin42> hm?