[01:02] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[01:02] <mchonis> so theres no way to convert to decent sounding mp3s?
[01:02] <Janchi> sorush20: oops, it's not the ancient BeBox but something else. too bad
[01:02] <scheuri> wolf: now...you installed ubuntu-desktop with all the linked packages that belongs to that virtual package...
[01:02] <gotit> http://freshmeat.net/projects/supergrub/
[01:02] <scheuri> wolf: and now you are removing one...meaning that you do NOT have ubuntu-desktop anymore on your desktop but your OWN specific configuration
[01:03] <scheuri> wolf: that is why it is removed as well
[01:03] <mikl> mchonis: there is no easy way (that I know of) - you'll probably have to do some commandline wizardry with sox and other things
[01:03] <scheuri> wolf: it is just not "ubuntu-desktop" anymore without gaim....therefore that virtual package is delete was well
[01:03] <gotit> Super Grub Disk is a bootable floppy or CDROM that is oriented towards system rescue, specifically for repairing the booting process. Super Grub Disk is simply a Grub Disk with a lot of useful menus. It can activate partitions, boot partitions, boot MBRs, boot your former OS (Linux or another one) by loading menu.lst from your hard disk, automatically restore Grub on your MBR, swap hard disks in the BIOS, and boot from any available disk d
[01:04] <wolf> scheuri: ok I understand now... thanks for the explanation.
[01:04] <scheuri> wolf: very welcome...
[01:04] <sorush20> it seems like the Broadcom chip set is not supported by the wpa_supplicant.. its ojnly available with http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/support.html
[01:04] <sorush20> http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/swc.php
[01:05] <mchonis> well, is there any way to play m4a files in ubuntu?
[01:05] <skizm> man i just spent 2 hours trying to get the live cd install to work, i had what seems to be a common problem with ati cards, and i followed a tutorial on how to fix it...  but the tutorial had an error ;/
[01:05] <skizm> To do this restart the live-cd and press F6 and remove "quiet splash --" from the boot options. Now you will get a command prompt when X fails to start. Once you are at the command prompt type "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and locate the line "ati" and exchange it for "radeon". Save and start X by typing "startx".
[01:05] <Hobbsee> skizm: what was the error?
[01:05] <Hobbsee> skizm: x didnt start?
[01:05] <ashiaka> ..
[01:05] <skizm> sure, sounds simple enough..  it took me 40 minutes to realize i should use sudo to get access to save the file
[01:06] <skizm> yes, that was the problem
[01:06] <rafael> How can I get Samba
[01:06] <skizm> i fixed it now, i guess : \
[01:06] <Hobbsee> skizm: ahh.  where was this howto?
[01:06] <Hobbsee> !samba > rafael
[01:06] <skizm> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/GCDrivers
[01:06] <rausb0> gotit: that cd seems not to be a standalone linux system, just the grub bootloader
[01:06] <sorush20> my psk is not this big..
[01:06] <sorush20>  psk=b22ec921c254c73f99b31b76ff876692ecde36839a1f2d92150829e6afcb5515
[01:06] <gotit> yes it is
[01:06] <sorush20> its noly about 6 digits
[01:06] <rausb0> gotit: i guess it won't help you
[01:06] <Hobbsee> sorush20: that'd be the passphrase.
[01:07] <gotit> and it can autorepair the grub bootloader
[01:07] <rausb0> gotit: i don't trust things like "autorepair"
[01:07] <rausb0> gotit: usually they make things worse
[01:07] <gotit> aah so what do you suggest than
[01:07] <rafael> Do I get to install it from the Terminal screen
[01:08] <rafael> ???
[01:08] <Hobbsee> rafael: or from synaptic
[01:08] <rausb0> gotit: you have have a live cd like damn small linux or knoppix around?
[01:08] <Hobbsee> rausb0: depends what it is.  update-grub is fairly safe.
[01:08] <Hobbsee> gotit: what's the problem with grub/
[01:08] <rafael> Is that Posible to
[01:08] <gotit> rausb0:i can buy one
[01:08] <Hobbsee> rafael: yes
[01:08] <rafael> ok
[01:08] <bimberi> rafael: yes, you can install from terminal
[01:09] <gotit> the bootloader is gone and i have to repair it
[01:09] <rafael> I'll go install
[01:09] <rafael> Thanks
[01:09] <firefoxman> can this be run on the nintendods
[01:09] <Hobbsee> !grub > gotit
[01:09] <rausb0> Hobbsee: but he actually doesnt want to repair it. he wants to remove one of the windows sections from menu.lst, but has no knowledge of the command line.
[01:09] <sorush20> the pass phrase I have that is printed on the back of the wireless box on the company is in this format 1234A12A12
[01:09] <Hobbsee> rausb0: ahhh....
[01:09] <firefoxman> can this be run on the nintendods
[01:10] <firefoxman> can this be run on the nintendodsn
[01:10] <rausb0> gotit: you said you only want to remove a section. you didn't say the bootloader was gone.
[01:10] <siloe> My CDROM error. http://rafb.net/paste/results/P8SBsV52.html
[01:10] <Hobbsee> sorush20: you're sure it's a wpa one?  try it, and see if it connects.  ie, put that through the wpa_passprhase, and try
[01:10] <firefoxman> can this be run on the nintendods
[01:10] <siloe> What solve my problem?
[01:10] <Hobbsee> firefoxman: not to my knowledge
[01:10] <firefoxman> ok
[01:10] <Hobbsee> firefoxman: patience
[01:10] <gotit> rausb0: yah i thought i can reinstall it with the super grub and than remove a section
[01:10] <rag> hi * , please anyone know about descriptions list for package software of adept, synaptic, etc?
[01:11] <The_Jack_of_Club> how do i force a comp to get a dhcp ip address, my laptop is connecting to the network but its not trying to receive from dhcp
[01:11] <rag> with other languages on descriptions lists, software list
[01:11] <Hobbsee> gotit: can you type one thing on the command line, then you can edit grub via  GUI?
[01:11] <rausb0> gotit: well, i don't know this super grub cd, so i cant tell you how to reinstall grub with it
[01:11] <Hobbsee> gotit: grub's controled by just a text file, you just delete whichever sections you dont want
[01:12] <gotit> i can reinstall it but dont know how to remove the section
[01:12] <gotit> ok how to edit that section
[01:12] <rausb0> gotit: then first reinstall it, just to be able to boot again
[01:12] <Hobbsee> gotit: in a command line, type "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" without the quotes
[01:13] <Hobbsee> gotit: and put in your password where it asks.  that gives you the file in gedit, a text editor
[01:13] <gotit> and i dont have the permission to enter gui
[01:13] <Hobbsee> why?
[01:13] <gotit> cause it not my comp
[01:13] <gotit> lol
[01:14] <rausb0> gotit: you expect us to help you breaking in a machine that isn't yours?
[01:14] <gotit> i already breaked in now i want to clean the mess
[01:14] <gotit> lol
[01:14] <rafael> Whats the command for getting Samba into the Terminal
[01:15] <wasp_ems> hello how can i check the md5 of a dvd?
[01:15] <rausb0> gotit: no. you want _us_ to clean the mess.
[01:15] <rafael> I ve just getting the updates from package files
[01:15] <gotit> no way
[01:15] <wasp_ems> anyone?
[01:15] <dudanogueira> hello! does anyone knows if the texas instruments card reader that came into my toshiba works on edgy?
[01:16] <gotit> i will do it my self i just need the right direction
[01:16] <rafael> I Saw Samba in the list of updates
[01:16] <rafael> but I think I need something more to install, I Think
[01:16] <Hobbsee> gotit: so what access do you have to the machine?
[01:16] <gotit> Halp Halp plz bro's help i am need of it
[01:17] <gotit> physical access lol
[01:17] <rausb0> gotit: what's so funny about it?
[01:17] <KDEfanboy> anyone happen to  use PixelView PlayTV Pro Ultra tuner/capture card?
[01:17] <gotit> oh i am sorry for that
[01:18] <arepie> !aiglx
[01:18] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[01:18] <Hobbsee> gotit: do you have the root password, or sudo access?
[01:18] <gotit> nope
[01:19] <gotit> but i can plug another hard drive and install anything
[01:19] <wolf> scheuri: total reinstall of gaim, and it still crashes. Not when I run it you understand, but a few seconds after I log in, and my contacts have downloaded. Any ideas? Some may have chinese chars in their aliases, and I have seen bug reports maybe related to that. But set to not download aliases gaim still crashes.
[01:19] <darko3d> how can i install a bluetooth driver
[01:19] <Vieng> hi
[01:20] <Vieng> im very new to ubuntu
[01:20] <gotit> hobbsee
[01:20] <Vieng> i want to install yahoo messenger
[01:20] <Vieng> how i can do that
[01:20] <mnepton> Vieng: you already have it. GAIM.
[01:20] <gotit> hobbsee: ican install grub or ubuntu in another hard drive if i have to
[01:20] <Janchi> Vieng: use GAIM
[01:21] <Vieng> uhm not yet
[01:21] <Vieng> how can i get that
[01:21] <Janchi> Vieng: you must have. It is default under Internet
[01:21] <mnepton> Vieng: Applications -> Internet -> GAIM Internet Messenger
[01:21] <rafael> sudo apt-get install samba smbfs
[01:21] <gotit> hobbsee:or i can boot from the live cd and fix the prob if its possible
[01:22] <rafael> I get this error
[01:22] <Hobbsee> gotit: any of htem will require either a reformat, or a command line
[01:22] <darko3d> how can i install a bluetooth driver
[01:22] <wolf> scheuri: total reinstall of gaim, and it still crashes. Not when I run it you understand, but a few seconds after I log in, and my contacts have downloaded. Any ideas? Some contacts may have chinese chars in their aliases, and I have seen bug reports maybe related to that. But set to not download aliases gaim still crashes.
[01:22] <gotit> Hobbsee: i have a spare hard drive
[01:23] <Hobbsee> gotit: that'll still require you using the command line, in telling it where to install
[01:23] <gotit> Hobbsee: you want me to install ubuntu on that
[01:23] <scheuri> wolf: might be an UTF-8 issue...ssorry...dont know
[01:23] <Hobbsee> gotit: if you just want to remove windows from grub, i'd just remove that section from the config file.
[01:23] <rafael> I get error that process uses the program into anotther programe
[01:25] <skizm> great, i got it installed but after rebooting i just get a black screen :D
[01:25] <gotit> Hobbsee: to access the config file i need an access to ubuntu drive, not possible with windows either live cd or ubuntu on another drive
[01:25] <wolf> scheuri: thanks 4 trying
[01:25] <skizm> strange, because x loaded on the live cd after making that change to xorg.conf
[01:25] <wolf> anyone else? Gaim crashes soon after login. Not when I run it you understand, but a few seconds after I log in, and my contacts have downloaded. Any ideas?
[01:26] <Vieng> uhm i have no Gaim account
[01:26] <dilll> hello can anyone please help me installing Nvidia drivers?
[01:26] <Hobbsee> !nvidia > dilll
[01:26] <Janchi> Vieng: you only need your yahoo account
[01:26] <quik_> is there any trick to init.d files other than having them with the right permissions etc?
[01:26] <rafael> hi
[01:26] <Janchi> Add account -> Yahoo
[01:27] <quik_> do they have to be enabled or anything?
[01:27] <skizm> really quick so i can test and see if xorg.conf got screwed up during install, how can i get a command line instead of attempting to load x during boot
[01:27] <Janchi> Vieng: the rest speaks for itself
[01:27] <dilll> !nvidia | dilll
[01:27] <ubotu> dilll: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:27] <Hobbsee> gotit: ahh, i see.  you can modify it with the live cd.  (mount the drive, browse to the file, edit the file as root)
[01:27] <rafael> I am downloading the updates for install Samba
[01:28] <Janchi> Vieng: GAIM is a multi-protocol client that handle various chatproviders
[01:28] <bilss_> hi
[01:28] <Vieng> ok i'll try
[01:28] <rafael> How can i Install it when i have downloaded it, Somebody tels me that i needed someting else olso
[01:28] <gotit> Hobbsee: i have never seen ubuntu running :)
[01:28] <bilss_> who to find ut if smbfs is running
[01:29] <bilss_> out
[01:29] <rafael> I need smbfs to
[01:29] <rafael> it is for sharing maps
[01:29] <dilll> sudo apt-get install smbfs
[01:29] <rafael> it is for sharing Direwctory
[01:29] <gotit> Hobbess:i once installed red hat 2.something it was easy i guess after that i was not intouch with computers
[01:29] <bilss_> apt-get install smbfs
[01:30] <Daviey> Hi, anybody got a USB DVD-RW drive to work yet?
[01:30] <bilss_> i know what its for but i need to know if its running
[01:30] <gotit> Hobbsee: which live cd you suggest me to buy i am sending some one to buy it for me please tell me the name
[01:31] <rafael> thanks
[01:31] <bilss_> root@xstation:/home/alex# mount -t smbfs -o username=Administrator password=xxxxxx  //<IP_ADDRESS>/C$/mnt/share
[01:31] <bilss_> Could not resolve mount point //<IP_ADDRESS>/C$/mnt/share
[01:31] <pyro> hey guys :)
[01:31] <bilss_> are the spaces in the correct places?
[01:31] <pyro> just wondering if anyone knows of a good drive / mount point utility i can apt-get ?
[01:32] <stefg> Hi, is there a way of saving my current selection of packages to a file? I want to be able to take this file to a different system and tell apt: Here's the packages I want installed, remove all others and install the missing ones....
[01:32] <gotit> hobbsee : live cd  for ubuntu??
[01:33] <skizm> okay, i booted in recovery mode and checked xorg.conf and it's configured to the same driver the live cd was using, but i still get a black screen instead of x loading : /
[01:33] <stefg> !apt
[01:33] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:33] <gotit> hobsee: sent someone to buy it from the market
[01:33] <bimberi> stefg:  dpkg --get-selections
[01:35] <gotit> hobbsee: i thought it is possible to repair the MBR with the super grub bootable cd
[01:35] <hyakuhei> hey all, should I be worried that "aptitude remove brltty" wants to remove "ubuntu-desktop" ?
[01:35] <bimberi> !ubuntu-desktop | hyakuhei
[01:35] <ubotu> hyakuhei: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[01:36] <hyakuhei> thanks bimberi
[01:36] <bimberi> hyakuhei: yw :)
[01:36] <gotit> hobbsee is gone i think
[01:36] <gotit> hah
[01:36] <bimberi> yep, 23:30 in Hobbsee-land
[01:37] <gotit> aah so is there any one else to help me
[01:37] <gotit> ?
[01:38] <darko3d> i need a step by step walk-through to install beryl/emerald something simple that i can actually understand, please
[01:38] <Nlytn> hi, i've just installed ubuntu this morning - its going great. over the past 10 minutes, I think it was after i installed the fglrx drivers, everything keep lagging for a few seconds... mouse will get stuck, and things seem to get buffered and all come at once - any ideas please? :)
[01:39] <wijnand> Nlytn isn't that the ati drivers?
[01:40] <Nlytn> wijnand: yep
[01:40] <wijnand> did you use the package or did you do this manually?
[01:40] <bienremi> hgas
[01:40] <bienremi> dmnfhsdjfhskjdfh
[01:40] <bienremi> jsdgfjsdgf
[01:40] <bienremi> ] gdkfjhs
[01:41] <Nlytn> i used the package
[01:41] <bienremi> dgfk]
[01:41] <bienremi> jkgjg
[01:41] <gotit> i have to repair my MBR and need to edit it too i have super grub cd and windows and ubuntu installed in different drives but mbr is just reading windows it was reading ubuntu day before yesterday but not now i dont no why
[01:41] <bienremi> fhf
[01:41] <bienremi> fdj
[01:41] <bienremi> hf
[01:41] <bienremi> bbbbbbbbbb
[01:41] <irax> hello
[01:41] <bienremi> jklksdfsa
[01:41] <bienremi> ;fdlskfs;lkdfhs;df
[01:41] <bienremi> lkjsdhflkasjdh
[01:41] <bienremi> lkjsdfslkfdj
[01:41] <bienremi> lksjfdsladfkj
[01:41] <bienremi> kekekeke
[01:41] <Fawk3> when I try to install ubuntu 6.10 on my comp... the screen turns black after the loading... what can the problem be?
[01:41] <gotit> bienremi : what do you want
[01:42] <bienremi> nothing
[01:42] <skizm> Fawk3: is that after installation?
[01:42] <Fawk3> no... before
[01:42] <skizm> oh
[01:42] <Fawk3> :(
[01:42] <wijnand> go tit: it's probably a matter of setting the active partition
[01:42] <gotit> whats the latest version of grub
[01:42] <skizm> do you have an ati card
[01:43] <Fawk3> yeah
[01:43] <gotit> wijnand: ok how can i solve the prob
[01:43] <luisbg> since the ubuntu installation cd is live... there is no live cd? (have to use one to extract the data of a broken computer)
[01:43] <skizm> try this
[01:43] <skizm> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/GCDrivers
[01:43] <wijnand> gotit probably just run the grub script again
[01:43] <SinnerG> My server went down for couple of hours, now that it is back up, I cant reach my domain anymore: just the ip and afaik the zone record is still correct :s
[01:43] <Fawk3> oki, ty ;) skizm ;)
[01:44] <gotit> wijnand: can it be done with the super grub cd
[01:44] <wijnand> no clue
[01:44] <wijnand> i have never heard of super grub
[01:44] <gotit> Super Grub Disk is a bootable floppy or CDROM that is oriented towards system rescue, specifically for repairing the booting process. Super Grub Disk is simply a Grub Disk with a lot of useful menus. It can activate partitions, boot partitions, boot MBRs, boot your former OS (Linux or another one) by loading menu.lst from your hard disk, automatically restore Grub on your MBR, swap hard disks in the BIOS, and boot from any available disk d
[01:45] <gotit> http://freshmeat.net/projects/supergrub/
[01:45] <wijnand> gotit if it's a hack of grub i'd say it would work
[01:45] <Atlas95> hello
[01:45] <Atlas95> how to change the label of one usb key without format it?
[01:45] <wijnand> hi Atlas95
[01:45] <gotit> ok guys thanks alot
[01:47] <dilll> !beryl
[01:47] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:47] <darko3d> i need a step by step walk-through to install beryl/emerald something simple that i can actually understand, please
[01:47] <Atlas95> please
[01:47] <skizm> http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html
[01:47] <skizm> there you go
[01:47] <dilll> thank u
[01:48] <darko3d> i have dapper not edgy
[01:48] <stefg> bimberi: thx,  reading about dpkg --set-selections atm.... Do you know if there is a way of doing it with synaptic? I'd rather avoid letting my mum using the terminal, and just want to mail a file to her, which she then can use to make synaptic install and remove all the required packs
[01:49] <darko3d> nvm
[01:49] <sod75> howdy yall
[01:50] <Acke_ubu> Hey, would you know if bluetooth is supported on a mac mini g4 running edgy?
[01:50] <dilll> is that a good way to install beryl?  does it use my nvidia drivers?
[01:52] <dilll> omg when i go into beryl gnome all i get is a cursor nothing happens what do i do?
[01:56] <dilll> omg when i go into beryl gnome all i get is a cursor nothing happens what do i do?
[01:56] <wijnand> you stop fretting.
[01:56] <dilll> .join #beryl
[01:56] <kliklik> Can I just make new folder in /usr/share/fonts/truetype and put some ttf fonts in there or do I have to change some config file, or regenerate fonts cache.. how do I do it?
[01:57] <wijnand> kliklik have you tried the wiki?
[01:57] <tfny_> Hi, is there an software availiable like webalizer which can handle simpler log files like the ip+referer so I only can list hits/visits/referer ? because if i use webalizer I need the whole apache access log which gets very big after a day on my server :)
[01:57] <dilll> wijnand, but i need beryl :(
[01:57] <wijnand> need?
[01:58] <kliklik> wijnand, sorry, no.. was on irc so I've thought just to pop in and ask :)
[01:58] <joejaxx> tfny_: hello
[01:58] <dilll> yes beryl is so so beutiful
[01:58] <joejaxx> tfny_: webalizer - Web server log analysis program
[01:58] <joejaxx> tfny_: yes there is
[01:58] <joejaxx> :)
[01:59] <joejaxx> tfny_: oh nevermind you want an alternative
[01:59] <pyro> *yawn*
[01:59] <leafw> any clues on how to have applications put their menu at the top, fixed, a-la-macosx?
[01:59] <leafw> for gnome that is
[01:59] <joejaxx> leafw: i do not think that is possible
[02:00] <leafw> joejaxx : er, kde can, now that's surprising
[02:00] <joejaxx> leafw: maybe there is a panel applet that i am not aware of
[02:00] <tfny_> joejaxx, the problem is that webalizer only uses the "combined" log-format from the apache, but this log format is too big for me, the log files are getting to big :-/
[02:00] <wijnand> leafw that can't be done
[02:00] <rausb0> leafw: kde can do that only for its own apps
[02:01] <rafael> Hello
[02:01] <joejaxx> wijnand: yeah that is what i though
[02:01] <joejaxx> thought*
[02:01] <rafael> I whant to install swat
[02:01] <wijnand> leafw that is a QT vs GTK thing
[02:01] <joejaxx> tfny_: :(
[02:01] <leafw> oh well, thanks guys
[02:01] <rafael> How can I do that
[02:01] <rafael> ?
[02:01] <wijnand> sure
[02:01] <joejaxx> leafw: you are most welcome
[02:01] <joejaxx> rafael: that is a game right?
[02:02] <wijnand> rafael have you tried the package manager?
[02:02] <rafael> no
[02:02] <leafw> kde has way more functionality, but the gnome is way easier to use ... but kde consumes like ALL resources, and gnome takes a much smaller chunk ... endless back and forth.
[02:02] <rafael> I can do it olso into the terminal
[02:02] <joejaxx> ahhh
[02:02] <irax> /#linux
[02:02] <wijnand> leafw i know what you mean
[02:02] <joejaxx> rafael: it is a samba tool
[02:02] <irax> #linux
[02:02] <wijnand> leafw my easy solution was to buy a mac ;)
[02:02] <rafael> but the package manager is easier
[02:03] <leafw> wijnand : I own macs, great hardware. But I run ubuntu on them.
[02:03] <rafael> Yes
[02:03] <rafael> Ive already instald Samba
[02:03] <wijnand> leafw you use ubuntu on recent macs too?
[02:03] <leafw> wijnand : macosx is even worse than KDE in resource consumption. You can't even run java with 98% percent of all ram without paging beyond 70%
[02:04] <rafael> and smbfs
[02:04] <leafw> wijnand : on core 2 duos? Haven't tried
[02:04] <joejaxx> tfny_: i do not know :( analog? awstats?
[02:04] <wijnand> leafw: i have an iMac G5... runs nicely (until i start playing games)
[02:04] <leafw> wijnand : but considering they are x86 ,it should run just the same (graphics cards who knows)
[02:04] <tfny_> joejaxx, jepp have found awstats, looking great
[02:04] <joejaxx> tfny_: :D
[02:04] <wijnand> leafw: the graphics on the intel macs are either ati or intel, they should work fine
[02:05] <leafw> wijnand: G5 machine is what torvalds uses for developemnt, I've heard.
[02:05] <luisbg> if I want to take the data out the hd of a computer with a broken OS, using the ubuntu cd is a good idea (run it live, copy the data to a safe place and then formating the hd)?
[02:05] <wijnand> hehe
[02:05] <geokok> Hi. I have a dvd-camera and want to edit the video footage. What app would u recommend??
[02:05] <leafw> wijnand : then no problem. I will get one by january.
[02:05] <joejaxx> geokok: is it dv?
[02:05] <luisbg> geokok, cinelerra, but it's not in ubuntu/debian yet
[02:05] <sod75> geokok_81: kino
[02:05] <wijnand> leafw i want a macbook
[02:05] <luisbg> wijnand, me too
[02:05] <geokok> joejaxx: no its not mini-dv . it records straight to a dvd disc
[02:06] <cheesy> my win2k won't boot (INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE) after installing ubuntu
[02:06] <wijnand> leafw: tempted to wait for when they ship with leopard though (i guess that's not really a big issue for you ;)
[02:06] <tomsa> Hello, I am using ubuntu edgy and I have the following error when I try to run python : $ python
[02:06] <tomsa> python: relocation error: python: symbol , version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[02:06] <tomsa> Any idea ?
[02:06] <geokok> sod75: kino wont load the files from the dvd
[02:06] <cheesy> what can i do?
[02:06] <irax> #linux
[02:06] <joejaxx> geokok: you want kino since cinelerra is not in debian/ubuntu yet
[02:06] <sod75> geokok: sorry, thought you said dv not dvd
[02:06] <joejaxx> oh wait dvd?
[02:06] <luisbg> joejaxx, yeah... kino is nice too
[02:06] <joejaxx> geokok: hmm hold that thought
[02:07] <leafw> wijnand : in my experience, macosx is not worth using until at the latest release, i.e. 10.2.8, 10.3.9, 10.4.8 ... all previous versions are buggy like hell, exposed mostly in RAM and performance-demanding apps.
[02:07] <geokok> geokok_81: same nic..same age?? same country maybe??
[02:07] <joejaxx> luisbg: his camcorder records to dvds
[02:07] <leafw> wijnand : so I won't run leopard until, like, december 2007
[02:07] <luisbg> joejaxx, oooooh
[02:07] <luisbg> leafw, what's the actual version of panther?
[02:07] <wijnand> leafw hehe
[02:07] <leafw> luisbg : 10.3.9 at the moment
[02:08] <luisbg> leafw, stable! =)
[02:08] <joejaxx> geokok: i am trying to think of what you could use :\
[02:08] <wijnand> leafw i agree about the first revision but i've run tiger since 10.4.2 and never had any issues
[02:08] <geokok> joejaxx: ok am waiting patiently :)
[02:08] <luisbg> joejaxx, ffmpeg to pass the dvd to quality avi?
[02:08] <joejaxx> luisbg: maybe
[02:09] <leafw> wijnand : try to run java apps. Try to run python apps. Try to run webservers with perl/php scripts. Try to use Adobde CS 2 Photoshop with 1Gb images.
[02:09] <cheesy> my win2k won't boot (INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE) after installing ubuntu. what can i do?
[02:09] <skizm> editing video that's already been compressed will decrease quality, so you want to transcode it as few times as possibl
[02:09] <skizm> e
[02:09] <joejaxx> luisbg: he is probably going to have to convert the dvd video into another media format as you said
[02:09] <wijnand> leafw java is slow as hell on any system :)
[02:09] <Mart0n> Any1 here have experience with ATI fglrx and wine.. By default they will not work together..
[02:09] <skizm> if it was me i would use huffyuv or another lossless codec for editing
[02:09] <joejaxx> luisbg: because kino is not going to import a dvd Lol
[02:10] <darkbishop> can anyone guide me on installing wine
[02:10] <geokok> darkbishop: yes
[02:10] <leafw> wijnand : that is not true. Java is slow in macs, because apple insists in rewriting all the threading and windowing system.
[02:10] <geokok> darkbishop: its in the repos. install from synaptic
[02:10] <joejaxx> darkbishop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[02:11] <pyro> hey guys, has anyone had the problem of not being able to move any gdesklet apps below a certian point on the screen? they just bounce and wont move to the bottom. Xine also does the same thing :/
[02:11] <wijnand> leafw: you mean in the java they supply?
[02:11] <iwkse> leafw: isn't jave just slow?
[02:11] <cheesy> darkbishop: sudo apt-get install wine
[02:11] <wijnand> leafw so would it help to just download java straight from sun?
[02:11] <leafw> wijnand : in my experience, java apps are between 1.5x and 2x compared to C++
[02:11] <joejaxx> darkbishop: that has alot of documentation :D
[02:11] <leafw> wijnand : java from sun doesn't run on macs.
[02:11] <joejaxx> darkbishop: you might want to run wincfg after you install it
[02:12] <joejaxx> geokok: you are probably going to want to convert the dvd video into another format and then import it into kino
[02:12] <darkbishop> joejaxx:but there is no wincfg???
[02:12] <wijnand> leafw shows you i never tried :)
[02:12] <mathis__> I want to run an ubuntu dapper drake, but I need x.org 6.8.x. is that possible without fsck'in up dpkg?
[02:12] <geokok> joejaxx: I was thinking if taking the files seperately from the VIDEO_TS and edit in avidemux. but what the..?
[02:12] <joejaxx> darkbishop: there is i was just saying you want to run it after you install wine :)
[02:13] <leafw> wijnand : nothing wrong there.
[02:13] <wijnand> mathis__ any reason for not using edgy?
[02:13] <geokok> :joejaxx: to what should I convert?
[02:13] <mathis__> wijnand: edgy is also okay, the thing I depend on is x.org _6.8_ :/
[02:13] <[GuS] > bonjour...
[02:13] <joejaxx> geokok: that is a question i whould not be able to answer you might want to talk to skizm
[02:14] <wijnand> mathis__ sounds like a bad idea to install it if it's not in the repositories
[02:14] <geokok> joejaxx: ok..thanks...
[02:14] <joejaxx> geokok: he mentioned something about a lossless codec
[02:14] <darkbishop> oh u have to install wine from the start... not just the game folder
[02:14] <mathis__> wijnand: well yeah, that's what I thought, too ;)
[02:14] <joejaxx> geokok: you are most welcome
[02:14] <geokok> skizm: uhm...hi.....can i ask something
[02:14] <darkbishop> ok thx for the guide guys... its really helpfull
[02:14] <joejaxx> darkbishop: you are most welcome
[02:15] <geokok> joejaxx: dont think i can talk to him now......what app to use for converting?
[02:15] <asakalli> hello
[02:15] <mathis__> wijnand: atm I'm thinkin about installing breezy. I have a set-top box and the only driver that does tv out is some binary proprietary thing directly from intel, and they're only supporting xorg <= 6.8.2
[02:16] <rausb0> espeak is funny: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:28392/
[02:17] <Glz> Hello i ge allways something when i reboot .it stopes to check when it check root files system then i get error about .that the system is read-only .can one of you plzzzz .tell me how to delete thoes windows files from my linux !!!!
[02:17] <Glz> so ubuntu can work fine
[02:17] <joejaxx> geokok: transcode
[02:17] <Glz> cause i have mounted the windows stufff
[02:17] <Glz> and i didnt do it correct
[02:17] <Glz> )
[02:17] <Glz> :(
[02:17] <geokok> joejaxx: ok thanks once more..off to create awesome movies then!!!
[02:17] <joejaxx> geokok: you are most welcome :)
[02:18] <Glz> so this error pupps allways up when i am starting my computer
[02:18] <Glz> is there a way to unmount the stuff
[02:18] <Glz> ?
[02:18] <bigz> i got a question for you all..
[02:18] <joejaxx> how do you have it mounted?
[02:18] <mathis__> wijnand: so, you also see no possibility to run x.org 6.8 on dapper/edgy?
[02:19] <darkbishop> what is the command for mounting an ntfs system so it can be read/write.. rite now i only mount it in read only
[02:19] <Pupeno> What program do you recommend to read RSS feeds (like akregator in Kubuntu) ?
[02:19] <bigz> how would i go about installing my belin wireless g pci card to unbuntu im new want to learn it ... but i cant get my network up and running i have been reading all day cant seem to find anything.
[02:20] <mathis__> Pupeno: liferea
[02:20] <joejaxx> bigz: what model?
[02:20] <kud0s> !wifi | bigz
[02:20] <ubotu> bigz: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:20] <bigz> i did read through all that..
[02:20] <bigz> model: F5D7000
[02:21] <kud0s> hehe, ok do you know what your chipset is then, and is it supported?
[02:21] <joejaxx> kud0s: ubotu he said he read that lol
[02:21] <syncmaster> darkbishop: chech this site: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/
[02:21] <ChatUser> Hi, can anybody helps on - how to install minimum x for vmware purpose ?
[02:22] <bigz> kud0s: i dont have a clue lol... im new to linux ..
[02:22] <rausb0> bigz: you have to know the chipset. what type of card is it (cardbus/usb/...)?
[02:22] <Mart0n> when enabling fglrx in xorg.conf wine crashes with some "wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x00000000 at address 0x7bc297bc (thread 0009), starting debugger.." Any1 who can help?
[02:23] <deaa> !KING Palapa Taman Remaja Surabaya-Lusiana Safara - Terpesona.mp3
[02:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about KING Palapa Taman Remaja Surabaya-Lusiana Safara - Terpesona.mp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <syntaxx> this will be my first time installing ubuntu.. can anyone guide me?
[02:23] <Mart0n> even winecfg crashes..
[02:23] <nownot> how do i find out what disk a parition is on like hd0 or hd1 etc
[02:23] <Rico> any one using bluetooth keyboard in ubuntu?
[02:24] <bigz> rausb0: its a pci card..
[02:24] <iwkse> syntaxx: 1. take the cd, put in cdrom..boot..install. Thats all
[02:24] <Rico> help me
[02:24] <voidmage> as soon as my drive gets here, i'm going to install ubuntu
[02:24] <voidmage> yay
[02:24] <joejaxx> bigz: ok
[02:24] <joejaxx> bigz: this is what you want to do
[02:24] <syntaxx> im having a little problem in partition.. whenever i put / it says no root filesystem
[02:24] <gimmulf> Damn, firefox still crashes on some pages using flash
[02:24] <iwkse> syntaxx: edgy, right?
[02:24] <joejaxx> bigz: do you have the firmware?
[02:24] <bigz> install my wiress lcard so i can get on the net, at the moment i had to switch back to my windows partition
[02:25] <nownot> pls someone
[02:25] <bigz> somewhere..
[02:25] <gaute> hey.. so what happends if i put feisty in my sources.list ? running edgy? (still have edgy in sources)
[02:25] <syntaxx> iwkse: dapper
[02:25] <voidmage> you'll get the feisty packages?
[02:25] <voidmage> :P
[02:25] <iwkse> syntaxx: it seems to be a bug...
[02:25] <joejaxx> bigz: did you try installing ndiswrapper?
[02:25] <gaute> voidmage: will it break or can i upgrade and use the development version?
[02:25] <iwkse> syntaxx: of the installer
[02:26] <voidmage> not sure actually
[02:26] <voidmage> haven't tried it
[02:26] <nownot> how do i find out what disk a parition is on like hd0 or hd1 etc
[02:26] <gaute> heey... got a distribution upgrade possibility.. cool..
[02:26] <gaute> sure ill break my system now as usual..
[02:26] <voidmage> still wouldn't do it though
[02:26] <joejaxx> nownot: df -h
[02:26] <voidmage> will probably break it
[02:26] <gaute> voidmage: can't resist..
[02:26] <voidmage> feisty isn't due out for another 6 months
[02:27] <voidmage> right now it probably looks no different than debian sid
[02:27] <darkbishop> yehhh the wine stuff is working.. thx guys.....
[02:27] <gaute> voidmage: hum ok. but got to go. probably won't be back since nothing works :)
[02:27] <gaute> bye
[02:27] <joejaxx> darkbishop: you are most welcome :)
[02:27] <voidmage> heh. hope he doesn't break anything.
[02:28] <joejaxx> voidmage: i hope not either
[02:28] <syntaxx> iwkse: i think it works now hmm 2 gig swap and 35gig / is fine right? no custom partition
[02:28] <dilll> !beryl
[02:28] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:28] <dilll> ok
[02:28] <voidmage> syntaxx: I'd recommend a /home partition
[02:28] <iwkse> syntaxx: ok
[02:28] <Sp4rKy> hi
[02:28] <dilll> hi
[02:28] <voidmage> That way if stuff breaks and you have to reinstall, you'll still have all your stuff
[02:28] <iwkse> syntaxx: do you have 1GB ram?
[02:28] <Sp4rKy> please, i've some issue during sympa mailing lmist manager configuration
[02:29] <NickVolt> anybody have any suggestions for server monitoring software? I need to be able to configure it to attempt a connection on a certain port.... ?
[02:29] <Rico> Help, about bluetooth keyboard on ubuntu LTS.
[02:29] <skizm> what the hell?  it booted this time without me changing anything o_O
[02:29] <skizm> oh well i won't complain
[02:29] <Sp4rKy> when i try to do  /etc/init.d/sympa start, i get the error "Missing files"
[02:29] <syntaxx> voidmage: its ok.. this will just a desktop install im using freebsd just wanna mess up with beryl lol
[02:29] <Sp4rKy> but there's nothing in the log :/
[02:29] <syntaxx> iwkse: yes
[02:29] <nownot> ok well right now my sata drives are sda and sdb and sdb is hd0, will sda be hd1 and first ide drive be hd2
[02:29] <Sp4rKy> does anyone can help me please ?
[02:29] <nofxx> hey....now that every thing was running cool.... just restarted my pc and ubuntu dosent show things... I have to pass the mouse to go "revealing" the screen........arggg.. any idea ?!!?
[02:29] <nofxx> gnome
[02:30] <syntaxx> voidmage: and by the way cedega's .deb works here fine right?
[02:30] <voidmage> nownot: all sata drives are sd*
[02:30] <nofxx> and when I close, i need to go again passing the mouse to clean what was there
[02:30] <nofxx> close some window, i mean
[02:30] <luisbg> when I launched the ubuntu cd it hasn't mounted me the hard drive of the computer?
[02:30] <voidmage> syntaxx: should work
[02:30] <voidmage> most debian packages work fine on ubuntu
[02:30] <nownot> yes i know but in grub root is hd0 and it boots so when i add the ide drive for boot what should the correct root
[02:31] <Janchi> luisbg: that is correct, It should work that way
[02:31] <Janchi> luisbg: Why do you want to mount the harddrive?
[02:31] <luisbg> Janchi, because I need to make a backup of the files on it
[02:33] <voidmage> if i want to replace my monitor, it's just as simple as plugging in the new one and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[02:33] <Sp4rKy> pleasse
[02:33] <Janchi> luisbg: May I make a suggestion then? Better use Knoppix. It automounts all partitions and has good NTFS support
[02:33] <luisbg> Janchi, true
[02:34] <voidmage> isn't ntfs-3g a good driver now?
[02:34] <PriceChild> voidmage: matter of opinion
[02:34] <PriceChild> voidmage: be careful
[02:34] <PriceChild> voidmage: all NTFS write support may be considered "dodgy"
[02:35] <syncmaster> i have't yet destroyed anything with ntfs-3g yet :-)
[02:35] <Janchi> PriceChild: true, but for backup purposes it is sufficient
[02:35] <iwkse> neither me
[02:35] <l3on_> excuse me, but the grive's repository is too able ? for dapper
[02:35] <l3on_> for edgy are down
[02:36] <iwkse> syncmaster: if you wanna some crash or similar..try with amule and give the incoming path to a ntfs partition
[02:36] <Janchi> iwkse: yikes, you are bad
[02:37] <iwkse> :)
[02:37] <syntaxx> voidmage: ok after the 100% i just need to reboot right?
[02:37] <darkbishop> ano... minasan. im just wondering.. if i install a game using wine.. where do the file been keep?
[02:38] <syncmaster> iwkse: I have made some simple copy/delete stuff, not that kind of yet.
[02:38] <iwkse> syncmaster: copy, delete, move..works great
[02:38] <iwkse> syncmaster: but i guess when it is stressed...
[02:38] <syncmaster> I have noticed that
[02:38] <Janchi> darkbishop: in a hidden file in your /home/user folder: .wine
[02:38] <darkbishop> Janchi:oh ok.. thx
[02:39] <Janchi> darkbishop: each container will have its own folder
[02:39] <deusjevoo> is the whole game put inthere?
[02:40] <deusjevoo> or just some wine things ?
[02:40] <Janchi> deusjevoo: yep, just like under windows
[02:40] <deusjevoo> can't you set that to another drive?
[02:40] <voidmage> ~/.wine/Program\ Files\blah
[02:40] <Discerer> so I was wondering about FTP
[02:40] <Discerer> what's the easiest way to set up an FTP on a generic ubuntu 6.05 installation?
[02:40] <Janchi> deusjevoo: I think so, but I never bothered with it.
[02:41] <nathansnook7> Can someone explain how to figure out why events/0 take up allot of system resources?
[02:41] <voidmage> How can I import my firefox profile fron windows?
[02:41] <Janchi> deusjevoo: but since you can tailor anything you like in Linux
[02:41] <deusjevoo> well, just still in the works for looking a good ditsro for me to use
[02:41] <felixjet> anyone have installed the murrine themes succesfull? i do as the manual say but i cant get it working at 100% :(
[02:41] <Janchi> voidmage: should be easy: just copy it from the win directory and put in in the hidden FF folder
[02:41] <deusjevoo> good to see some practical questions come by
[02:42] <voidmage> alright
[02:42] <voidmage> wouldn't happen to know if anything in user.js or another file would need some edits?
[02:42] <devilsadvocate> for what?
[02:42] <voidmage> for importing my firefox profile from windows
[02:43] <Janchi> voidmage: I have a thread in my blog about that http://opensourcelearning.info/blog/?cat=8&paged=3
[02:43] <voidmage> thanks
[02:43] <PecisDarbs> !wifi
[02:43] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:43] <devilsadvocate> voidmage, just copying it should work
[02:43] <Guardian> hi, what's different between a package for 6.06 and a package for 6.10 ?
[02:44] <Janchi> voidmage: even the extensions should work
[02:44] <deusjevoo> isn't there a Dutch Ubuntu?
[02:44] <devilsadvocate> Guardian, they are built with the rest of the distro in mind
[02:44] <Janchi> deusjevoo: you can select dutch as a language during install
[02:44] <raghu206> how to copy video cds in ubuntu it says i/o error pls some one help
[02:45] <Discerer> what's the easiest way to set up an FTP on a generic ubuntu 6.06 installation?
[02:45] <Janchi> deusjevoo: during bootup it is either F2 or F4
[02:45] <Janchi> deusjevoo: but you see it: language
[02:46] <deusjevoo> and the endresult is completely Dutch version?
[02:46] <devilsadvocate> Discerer, have you looked at ubuntuguide.org ?
[02:46] <Guardian> devilsadvocate: hmm well ok, for instance i was about to install a nighty build for codeblocks, i don't think there is much difference between 6.06 and 6.10
[02:46] <Janchi> deusjevoo: exactly
[02:46] <darkbishop> ntfs-3g dont work..
[02:46] <kouyujie> does anyone can help me about bluetooth keyboard?
[02:46] <deusjevoo> thanks, curious, also possible to switch between languages after install?
[02:46] <Janchi> deusjevoo: give or take a few menu items here and there
[02:46] <devilsadvocate> Guardian, that would depend ont he dependancies. if one of the packages they depend on has a significant change that could cause breakage
[02:46] <Janchi> deusjevoo: as many languages as you like
[02:47] <Janchi> deusjevoo: it is all part of the systems menu
[02:47] <Discerer> no thanks for the tip devilsadvocate
[02:47] <deusjevoo> and those can be set in an installed version?
[02:47] <deusjevoo> cool
[02:47] <Janchi> deusjevoo: you can add and remove the languages as your needs change
[02:47] <darkbishop> i cant find make command.. help anyone
[02:48] <darkbishop> what is the command for mounting an ntfs system so it can be read/write.. rite now i only mount it in read only
[02:48] <eitch0000> I installed kpowersave, and didn't reboot, then started the app. CPU Scaling worked like a charm, now I rebooted and now cpu scaling isn't even in the menu anymore. Does it have anything to do with the fact, that installing kpowersave removed apmd and powernowd?
[02:48] <Janchi> darkbishop: you have to install make
[02:48] <Pupeno> Can I add feeds to liferea from Firefox ?
[02:48] <Janchi> darkbishop: it is not there by default
[02:48] <PecisDarbs> how to install Intel WiFi for my laptop?
[02:48] <visik7> anyone here with dapper ?
[02:48] <Guardian> devilsadvocate: ok
[02:48] <Janchi> visik7: many
[02:49] <Guardian> devilsadvocate: thx for the explanation
[02:49] <deusjevoo> my english is good enough, but the distro i'm going to be used will probably also be used by non-techie friends, family, for cheap pcs, so flexibility is a big plus
[02:49] <PecisDarbs> !intel wifi
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel wifi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <PecisDarbs> !wifi intel
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wifi intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <deusjevoo> going to use*
[02:49] <darkbishop> Janchi:soka!!!! ok i get back to you...
[02:49] <Janchi> deusjevoo: you should look into rekonstruktor then. You can make custom Ubuntu versions for your friends
[02:50] <visik7> mdnsd isn't present in edgy
[02:50] <visik7> anyone have it in dapper ?
[02:50] <deusjevoo> my idea is more of setting up a system, tweak it, then image it
[02:50] <deusjevoo> then use that image for the others to
[02:50] <deusjevoo> time.....
[02:50] <deusjevoo> is not on my side
[02:50] <Janchi> deusjevoo: that works nice if the hardware is alike
[02:50] <deusjevoo> and if not, if necessary, change recompile kernel I suppos?
[02:51] <deusjevoo> e
[02:51] <Janchi> deusjevoo: http://opensourcelearning.info/blog/?p=54 is how I did it
[02:51] <deusjevoo> I'm doing those things allready with xp/2000
[02:51] <syntax1> how to install nvidia drivers in ubuntu? i cant get the resolution that i want
[02:51] <Janchi> deusjevoo: Rekonstruktor extract the CD/DVD, you add everything you like (or remove), customize the whole thing and you have a fine install DVD
[02:52] <DiMiTRiS> Is there a way to make openoffice use 2 dictionaries at the same time like evolution does/
[02:52] <deusjevoo> well, if install doesn't take muchlonger then putting an image back...
[02:52] <qailer> Hello guys, I recently upgraded my grandfather to edgy but now I got problems building the fglrx kernel source(etc) from the 8.31.5, before the upgrade he was doing quite fine with opensource radeon drivers, he's got a radeon x300, now xorg won't start at all, aw, is this a known problem or do I miss any packages etc, this is the output I get: http://paste.uni.cc/11618
[02:52] <Janchi> deusjevoo: how does 20 minutes sound
[02:52] <deusjevoo> fine
[02:52] <deusjevoo> :-)
[02:53] <deusjevoo> that's like a quickie :-)
[02:53] <Janchi> deusjevoo: ech wel. When I had a problem with Ubuntu it was faster to reinstall than to look for the problem and solve it
[02:53] <KomiaPoika> how can i set up nat without using iptables
[02:54] <deusjevoo> that leads to another question
[02:54] <syntax1> how to install nvidia drivers in ubuntu? i cant get the resolution that i want
[02:54] <Janchi> deusjevoo: shout it out
[02:54] <deusjevoo> what you did, what about userfiles? mails? p2p programs?
[02:54] <deusjevoo> no need to backup first?
[02:55] <Janchi> deusjevoo: the easiest thing is to create a separate partition for /home
[02:55] <deusjevoo> my wininstalls now have profiles set to another partition, D: mostly
[02:55] <Discerer> hmm the ftp server guide on ubuntuguide.org doesn't say how to add users to the ftp server. anyone know?
[02:55] <Jural> Small problem, I had to install ubuntu from command line. GDM isn't starting by default, I can set that up, but console 1 is auto loging in as root. which rc level is this running in for ubuntu?
[02:55] <deusjevoo> so, install, image, problems: restore image, clean out docs and settins, and set to go again
[02:55] <Janchi> deusjevoo: that way you can mount the /home during install and keep all your data
[02:55] <deusjevoo> ok
[02:55] <syntax1> hello? is there a guide on how to install nvidia drivers in ubuntu?
[02:56] <deusjevoo> good lecture about all that practical things?
[02:56] <fnf> !ubuntuguide
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <Janchi> syntax1: I use easyubuntu for that (don't shoot guys)
[02:56] <syntax1> Janchi: easyubuntu?
[02:57] <fnf> syntax1: You'd better look at ubuntuguide.org
[02:57] <Janchi> deusjevoo: well, there is more in my blog. I kept track of all my endeavors. Another one is digiplace.nl. He and I are writing a book on Ubuntu Linux in dutch
[02:57] <syntax1> fnf: edgy howto is ok to dapper?
[02:57] <Janchi> syntax1: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[02:58] <deusjevoo> Janchi, link for your blog?
[02:58] <Janchi> deusjevoo: http://opensourcelearning.info/blog/?cat=8
[02:58] <voidmage> how do you get easyubuntu to work on edgy?
[02:58] <fnf> syntax1: It depends on how you'd want to install the driver. You may just download the nvidia-glx package or do it the hard way.
[02:58] <Jural> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:59] <deusjevoo> Janchi: thanks (again)
[02:59] <Janchi> voidmage: Edgy is not supported (yet)
[02:59] <Janchi> deusjevoo: you're welcome. You can always buy the book coming spring
[03:01] <FerchoLP2> Hello. I'm setting a firewall whose only function is to implement NAT and let PCs from lan to access websites. I set all iptables policys DROP. Then, "sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -d <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -j MASQUERADE" (<IP_ADDRESS>/24 is in this case what emulates internet).
[03:01] <FerchoLP2> then, I add this rule: "sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT"
[03:02] <FerchoLP2> but http packages are not going through the firewall. Do you know what rule is missing?
[03:03] <deusjevoo> Janchi: very likely
[03:03] <deusjevoo> you give me discount?
[03:03] <deusjevoo> haha
[03:03] <Aberry> hello people, I just installed ubuntu on two old servers, both 700mhz pIII with 256meg ram and one of them is running horribly slow, and I can't figure out why. It doesn't seem to be processing anything while it lags but it takes up to five minutes to open any given program.
[03:03] <kouyujie> Does any one can help me about bluetooth keyboard on ubuntu
[03:03] <deusjevoo> ben een godkope Belg :-)
[03:03] <Janchi> deusjevoo: LOL. I wish I could decide that. The publisher sets the price. Maybe HCC members will get a discount
[03:04] <devilsadvocate> Aberry, top?
[03:04] <Aberry> top what Im sorry?
[03:04] <Janchi> deusjevoo: just a cheap Rotterdammer here
[03:04] <deusjevoo> which publisher?
[03:04] <devilsadvocate> did you see if there is a runaway process in top?
[03:04] <Janchi> deusjevoo: SDU, Academic Service
[03:04] <MtJB> evidently rt61pci does not work in edgy, how can i install the dapper version, which i have read, does work?
[03:04] <erider> how do I get opengl working on my 64bit system?
[03:05] <kouyujie> sigh
[03:05] <Janchi> deusjevoo: we are still discussing the title. They want "Linux op de PC" , we want "Warempel... het werkt. Linux voor overstappers"
[03:05] <Aberry> youll have to forgive me on that one, this is only the second linux distro I've tried :S Im using them both as dns servers so they're running BIND and, though using the desktop is slow, it seems to be quite quick at serving names still
[03:06] <Aberry> Im not sure how to check for runaway processes
[03:06] <deusjevoo> title can be important to attract right group
[03:06] <MtJB> Aberry:  first, you have to shout "whoa, whoa, big fella"
[03:06] <devilsadvocate> Aberry, open a terminal, and type top
[03:06] <Janchi> deusjevoo: definitely. Their title is..... booooooorrrriinnngggg. We want to attract the Windows power users
[03:06] <Aberry> ok, brb then
[03:06] <deusjevoo> why not: "Linux op de pc" with subtitle "Warempel, het werkt" ?
[03:06] <Misnix2> linux in een wippie
[03:06] <deusjevoo> nice layout
[03:07] <devilsadvocate> Aberry, it'll open up something similar to the task manager in windows, only much more responsive
[03:07] <Janchi> Misnix2: They already had a fit when we suggested Verrekt.. .het werkt.
[03:07] <Janchi> LOL
[03:07] <Misnix2> lol
[03:07] <Janchi> deusjevoo: good suggestion. I'll pass that on
[03:07] <MtJB> evidently rt61pci does not work in edgy, how can i install the dapper version, which i have read, does work?
[03:07] <Misnix2> !nl
[03:07] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[03:07] <Aberry> ok, im just waiting for a terminal to load up now :D cheers
[03:07] <Misnix2> ;-p
[03:07] <deusjevoo> of: Veerkt, het werkt, Linux op de pc
[03:07] <deusjevoo> Verrekt*
[03:07] <darkbishop> conquer online cant be play using wine
[03:08] <Aberry> the other seems to run fine, no problems so far although the installation is a day younger so it might start doing the same thing
[03:08] <Janchi> deusjevoo: they think Verrekt is foul language
[03:08] <deusjevoo> should be able to compromise
[03:08] <deusjevoo> on what are you writing the book? linux? or windoze?
[03:09] <Misnix2> linux. thuis, uit en op het werk
[03:09] <Janchi> deusjevoo: on Windows, Linux and the Mac. I am a multiOS-er by nature
[03:09] <Aberry> ok the top process is using 1.7-2.5% and is xorg
[03:09] <darkbishop> oh damn.. no english?
[03:09] <deusjevoo> that honest
[03:09] <devilsadvocate> what is the cpu usage?
[03:09] <devilsadvocate> top left somewhere
[03:09] <deusjevoo> recent Mac?
[03:09] <devilsadvocate> the total cpu usage
[03:09] <Aberry> let me go and see
[03:10] <Janchi> deusjevoo: I have to be. I write mostly for OS migrants. In run Win XP and Vista, Mac OS X and Ubuntu at the moment
[03:10] <devilsadvocate> hang on a sec
[03:10] <Janchi> deusjevoo: OS X on an older iMac Indigo
[03:10] <devilsadvocate> you may as well look at the memory use as well
[03:10] <Aberry> around 7-11% total usage on idle
[03:10] <Janchi> deusjevoo: multibooting to Suse
[03:10] <honk> Is there a PCMCIA laptop wireless card that is known to well work automagically with Ubuntu?
[03:10] <devilsadvocate> then it shouldnt be sluggish
[03:10] <devilsadvocate> how much ram do you have again?
[03:10] <deusjevoo> offcourse, I'm giving lots of support for windows, wanna do Linux to now
[03:11] <devilsadvocate> honk, there are, but i dont remember which
[03:11] <Aberry> hmmm this might be why, i only have 12mb free of physical memory and nothing is being used of the swap
[03:11] <Aberry> does the swap only kick in when physical memory is used up?
[03:11] <devilsadvocate> type h, it'll give you instructions on using top
[03:11] <Aberry> 256mb
[03:11] <honk> Perhaps those of the Linksys brand?
[03:11] <l3on_> excuse me, why does not command convert work ?
[03:11] <deusjevoo> learn it first offcourse, but grew up with puters
[03:11] <devilsadvocate> try ordering the processies based on mem usage
[03:11] <Janchi> deusjevoo: Ubuntu is a good solution for migrants, easy to use and extend
[03:12] <l3on_> anyone ?
[03:12] <quiet> i thought you said immigrants.
[03:12] <Janchi> deusjevoo: problem solving is still a killer for most users
[03:12] <quiet> lol
[03:12] <deusjevoo> well, narrowed it down to suse, ubuntu, mandriva, fedora
[03:12] <Aberry> ok, give me one minute
[03:12] <deusjevoo> that's why I wanna get it under my knees first
[03:12] <Pupeno> is there some way to wrap a 'make install' so it generates some kind of package that can be easily uninstalled ? to keep my system clean.
[03:12] <Janchi> deusjevoo: here comes another link
[03:13] <Janchi> deusjevoo: http://www.opensourcelearning.info/osel/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=9 (my main site)
[03:13] <deusjevoo> suse mor closed, mandriva also debian based I thought, fedora, dunno, for home users...
[03:13] <deusjevoo> but then, I like the Xen support on it
[03:13] <Janchi> deusjevoo: BRB
[03:13] <darkbishop> stil cant make ntfs-3g work.. anyone have any idea how to make nfts drive writeable?
[03:14] <geokok> in dapper i believe i could switch to virtual terminals with alt+F1-F5. How do I do that in edgy?
[03:14] <Aberry> the highest % mem use of a process is 4.5% by xorg
[03:14] <quiet> geokok, no, it's ctrl+alt+F#
[03:14] <Pupeno> geokok: if you are in X, you need to press ctrl-alt- to get out.
[03:14] <Aberry> so I dont see why the rest of the ram seems to be used up
[03:14] <devilsadvocate> darkbishop, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[03:14] <devilsadvocate> thats odd
[03:14] <Aberry> as the rest of the fields, bar two 1% ones, are 0% mem usage
[03:14] <Kawaii-Panda> hey, can anyone recall to me what that chemistry program in the repos name was
[03:15] <Kawaii-Panda> i kind of need it.
[03:15] <quiet> Aberry, it's cached.
[03:15] <geokok> Pupeno: oh right. One more question. How can I boot my machine in text mode?
[03:15] <Acke_ubu> hey, are mad-wifi drivers availible in synaptic?
[03:15] <geokok> quiet:thanks
[03:15] <Acke_ubu> !bothelp
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bothelp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <Acke_ubu> !help
[03:15] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:15] <quiet> !mad-wifi
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mad-wifi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <Khamael> when will the latest nvidia drivers be in ubuntu?
[03:15] <Aberry> quiet, Im not sure it is as my swap file isnt being used at all
[03:15] <quiet> !madwifi
[03:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:15] <Acke_ubu> quiet: thanks'
[03:16] <Kawaii-Panda> Khamael: the next release, feisty would have the binary drivers by default :)
[03:16] <quiet> Aberry, that's good... your swap shouldn't be getting used. if it is, then you need more RAM...  what you're seeing is cached RAM...
[03:16] <geokok> quiet: How can I boot my machine in text mode?
[03:17] <devilsadvocate> geokok, select single user mode while booting up in grub
[03:17] <quiet> geokok, you could chmod a-x /etc/init.d/gdm
[03:17] <Aberry> heh, you've lost me
[03:17] <quiet> Aberry, it's okay... you just don't understand how Linux uses RAM yet...  you are fine.
[03:17] <geokok> devilsadvocate:how do i choose that?
[03:18] <Aberry> the overall usage of my physical ram reads as 235mb, out of 256, nothing used of the swap
[03:18] <devilsadvocate> geokok, it should be one of the options in grub while you boot
[03:18] <devilsadvocate> geokok, that would only give you a root console though
[03:18] <quiet> Aberry, example:  You run firefox...  then close it...  it doesn't clear firefox from the RAM, it keeps it cahced so if you use it again.. it's already there... thus improving load time...  however; if that space is needed because you are using other apps, it will readily use that space without thinking.
[03:18] <geokok> devilsadvocate: no options there...says grub loading and then the ubuntu logo
[03:19] <Aberry> oh ok, well now I know hehe
[03:19] <Aberry> it still doesnt explain the problem Im having though :S
[03:19] <devilsadvocate> geokok, it might give you a few seconds to go into advanced boot options
[03:19] <woodefec> hi
[03:19] <quiet> Aberry, what is the problem?
[03:19] <ScarFreewill> woodefec here
[03:19] <woodefec> hi
[03:20] <geokok> devilsadvocate: ok...i ll try a few key combs to see how i go to advanced mode
[03:20] <ScarFreewill> can i like give root 40gb and swap 3gb and home the rest?
[03:20] <devilsadvocate> geokok, you wont have to guess the key combinations - it will tell you while booting.
[03:20] <devilsadvocate> just after it says frub loading
[03:20] <toodles> Hi Everyone! Does anyone know why suspend works perfectly on my laptop (Dell 640m) and it resumes perfectly after it too, but screenblank does not. It blanks the screen correctly, but won't display it again. Any ideas?
[03:20] <Janchi> deusjevoo: back again
[03:20] <Aberry> quiet, ive installed the exact same OS on two of exactly the same servers, both running as dns servers. they both fetch names just as quickly but the primary dns server takes up to five minutes to load a program in the gnome gui, yet does not seem to be processing or reading anything in this time.
[03:21] <devilsadvocate> grub*
[03:21] <woodefec> i want to install kubuntu, does the installator give an option to leave my old /home/foo_user untouched (to keep all the settings and data and make the old home dir my new one)
[03:21] <woodefec> >?
[03:21] <quiet> Aberry, strange, perhaps a corruption during install? also... why are you running gnome on a DNS server?
[03:21] <quiet> or X at all, for that matter.
[03:21] <mhenning8> Can ubuntu use the 3d desktop like mandriva?
[03:21] <Aberry> quiet, because Im a dunce and couldnt begin to setup NAMED without webmin :p
[03:21] <ovihc_> ScarFreewill: 3gb of swap is too much. the rule is twice your real memory.
[03:22] <ScarFreewill> ovihc_: ok...
[03:22] <woodefec> can I leave my old /home ??
[03:22] <darko3d> sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1 beryl emerald-themes beryl-settings xorg-driver-fglrx linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` <-- i ran this, but connection is bad and some files are failing to download everytime there's a timeout, is there a package i can download one time and run it offline
[03:22] <quiet> Aberry, webmin doesn't require X... it's web-based.. simply connect to it from another machine.  ;)
[03:22] <ScarFreewill> ovihc_: want to know what woodefec is asking too
[03:22] <ovihc_> SacrFreewill: how much memory do you have? 256? 512? 1gb?
[03:22] <ScarFreewill> ovihc_: 1gb
[03:22] <silvertip257> I'm trying to build wireless drivers for my card. I've got all the files formatted right, but do not know how to compile/build the driver
[03:22] <Aberry> I had this same problem using fedora actually, come to think of it, as I tried that to start, then pclinuxos, which ran fine but had problems with BIND, then ubuntu
[03:23] <Aberry> hehe yeah I know that much but there are a few other things I needed to set up at the same time, plus I have no Idea how i'd set up webmin in the console.
[03:23] <daidungsi> hi i'm newbie in ubuntu
[03:23] <ovihc_> woodefec: it is possible. i just can't recall the process, but i do know that it is possible. i've done it before.
[03:23] <daidungsi> i have a dislaychm file
[03:23] <hamdinp> hamdinp 123456
[03:24] <daidungsi> how can i make it install
[03:24] <hamdinp> hamdinp 123456
[03:24] <SpriteSODA> guys is someone here familiar with cvs-cedega?
[03:24] <ovihc_> ScarFreewill: since you have 1gb of memory, 1gb of swap is enough.
[03:24] <silvertip257> how do I build drivers/compile them into something useful ?
[03:24] <Janchi> SpriteSODA: Cedega yes
[03:24] <daidungsi> displaychm to view .chm file
[03:24] <ScarFreewill> ovihc_: ok
[03:25] <The_Machine> how do i make it so that folder sizes show up in nautilus?
[03:25] <Aberry> quiet, have any more ideas as to what it might be?
[03:25] <darkbishop> nope.. dont working either... damn... im sooo stupid at mounting ntfs file system... its said ntfs-3g cant be install
[03:25] <pinchartl> hi
[03:26] <Janchi> SpriteSODA: what do you need to know?
[03:26] <Aberry> darkbishop, ntfs-3g is a pain, try typing -nonempty on the end of the command and see if this is the problem
[03:26] <kinuxer> Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager as user root:
[03:26] <kinuxer>  Child terminated with 1 statushow can I make it normal?
[03:26] <ActivE> I just overwrote my PATH variable with the command PATH=/usr/local/java :P. Now no commands work in the termial, how can i restore this vairable?
[03:26] <ovihc_> The_Machine:I'm not aware of a feature in nautilus that will give you the folder size. imagine that you visited the root folder, then it would search y our whole hard drive and that would take too much time.
[03:26] <Aberry> I spent about an hour trying to mount an ntfs partition before I figured it out :D
[03:27] <kinuxer> Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager as user root:
[03:27] <kinuxer>  Child terminated with 1 statushow can I make it normal?
[03:27] <darko3d> sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1 beryl emerald-themes beryl-settings xorg-driver-fglrx linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` <-- i ran this, but connection is bad and some files are failing to download everytime there's a timeout, is there a package i can download one time and run it offline, i have dapper with an ati card, if that helps?
[03:27] <The_Machine> that sucks ass.
[03:27] <darkbishop> Aberry: can u give me an example.. i dont get what u mean??
[03:27] <The_Machine> :/
[03:27] <Aberry> darkbishop, is ntfs-3g installed ok?
[03:28] <darkbishop> Aberry:nope.its said it cant be install..
[03:28] <erider> how do I get opengl working on my 64bit system?
[03:28] <quiet> Aberry, not really man... maybe something got corrupted during install??  does _any_ app take that long to load, or just certain ones?
[03:28] <Rarj> Hi. How do I add a Shutdown option to the quit button ?
[03:28] <Aberry> darkbishop, ah right, well that sucks, did you run it in root or sudo?
[03:28] <quiet> Rarj, are you using GDM?
[03:28] <kinuxer> Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager as user root:
[03:28] <kinuxer>  Child terminated with 1 statushow can I make it normal?
[03:29] <Rarj> quiet, yes
[03:29] <Aberry> quiet, all of them take a while, except named and ubuntu itself, all startup code seems to run OK
[03:29] <darkbishop> Aberry: Depends: libc6 (>=2.4-1) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is to be installed
[03:29] <quiet> Rarj, then it should be there.
[03:29] <darkbishop> Aberry: that what its said... run it in.. synaptic package manager...
[03:29] <quiet> Aberry, try to launch the gui app from a terminal and see if it gives any messages...
[03:29] <Rarj> quiet, It isnt, all I get is logoff, lock, switch user & hibernate
[03:29] <quiet> if not... you could also try an strace... but that's beyond my scope.
[03:29] <Aberry> darkbishop, what I meant was when you tried installing the package was it installed via the console with "sudo" preceding it
[03:30] <Aberry> quiet, what's an strace?
[03:30] <thompa> im having frustrating problems setting up laserjet 1018
[03:30] <kinuxer> Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager as user root:
[03:30] <kinuxer>  Child terminated with 1 statushow can I make it normal?
[03:30] <thompa> bottom part of page is always missing on HP laserjet
[03:30] <[Blackheart] > hello, I tried installing the libstdc++ libraries using apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 but it complains about missing dependencies, is there a way to make apt install the dependencies aswell?
[03:30] <Khamael> where can I find a good howto for setting up quotas?
[03:30] <quiet> it will trace all threads executed and allow you to see where it hangs up.. but it's output is quite cryptic so you'd probably just have to pastebin it and ask someone to look.
[03:30] <darkbishop> Aberry:let me try again
[03:30] <Aberry> go to a console, type sudo synaptic then try and install it, see if it helps
[03:31] <almir> i have a problem booting from my ubuntu 6.10 CD, after i chose start or install ubuntu it wait a little to tell me that it can't start the X server, i've checked for defects and the CD have worked before 100%, help?
[03:31] <Aberry> quiet, sounds fuuun :p, thanks alot for your help anyway. I think it might actually be a hardware problem, since it's happened with two distros
[03:31] <kinuxer> ok,i will try
[03:32] <quiet> Aberry, possible... hard drive may be dying.
[03:32] <Aberry> quiet, Ill stick in some new ram and see how it goes, lift the old stuff out
[03:32] <Daviey> Hi, can somebody guide me how to burn an ISO from the console?
[03:32] <Aberry> quiet, I doubt it as it's scsi, not too old and it boots ubuntu fairly quickly
[03:32] <[Blackheart] > anyone? im doing this from a console
[03:32] <Aberry> I think it might have a problem unloading ram
[03:33] <ovihc_> almir: are you using any type of special hardware. what is your monitor type? your video card? and when it says it can't load X, is that before you get the ubuntu desktop?
[03:33] <thompa> anyone know how i can clean up ubuntu printer files and drivers and start over
[03:33] <kinuxer> sudo: must be setuid root
[03:33] <kinuxer> I type sudo synaptic,then show that!
[03:33] <quiet> Aberry, is this edgy or dapper?
[03:33] <darko3d> sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1 beryl emerald-themes beryl-settings xorg-driver-fglrx linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` <-- i ran this, but connection is bad and some files are failing to download everytime there's a timeout, is there a package i can download one time and run it offline, i have dapper with an ati card, if that helps?
[03:34] <Aberry> quiet, I cant remember, I think edgy, I know it's the newer distro with the shorter support length
[03:34] <kinuxer> sudo: must be setuid root
[03:34] <kinuxer> kinuxer I type sudo synaptic,then show that!
[03:34] <allz> !nvidia
[03:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:34] <quiet> edgy...  i would suggest dapper for server use... but if you said you had a similar problem with another distro, i don't know.
[03:34] <almir> ovihc_: i don't think im using any special stuff, im running XP on the very computer now
[03:35] <Aberry> quiet, ok thanks alot for your help anyhow, i'll have a fiddle see what it comes up with
[03:35] <Arcad3> someone can help me with something?
[03:35] <almir> ovihc_: grafic card, ATI radeon X600 256MB
[03:35] <darko3d> please someone, help me
[03:35] <quiet> Aberry, good luck.
[03:35] <Janchi> Arcad3: tell us
[03:35] <Aberry> cheers
[03:35] <Arcad3> cgi...
[03:35] <Janchi> darko3d: tell us
[03:36] <almir> ovihc_: and yes before ubuntu desktop
[03:36] <darko3d> sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1 beryl emerald-themes beryl-settings xorg-driver-fglrx linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` <-- i ran this, but connection is bad and some files are failing to download everytime there's a timeout, is there a package i can download one time and run it offline, i have dapper with an ati card, if that helps?
[03:36] <kinuxer> sudo: must be setuid root
[03:36] <kinuxer> kinuxer kinuxer I type sudo synaptic,then show that!
[03:36] <livingdaylight> LInux is not ready for my desktop - yuck
[03:36] <jfrench> What is the command for xorg config, i always forget
[03:36] <jfrench> ??
[03:36] <livingdaylight> a simple matter of printing a photo is just a nightmare
[03:36] <Janchi> livingdaylight: why do you say that
[03:36] <ovihc_> when it starts booting, and before you press ENTER to start the live cd, try to use the vesa graphics driver instead.
[03:37] <almir> ovihc_: the computer is from dell, maybe they don't like linux what do i know :S
[03:37] <Arcad3> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:37] <livingdaylight> Janchi, you try and print as much as a photo and get it the right size etc?
[03:37] <jfrench> Arcad3:thank you so much
[03:37] <Janchi> livingdaylight: sure. In GIMP
[03:37] <Arcad3> np
[03:37] <almir> ovihc_ok
[03:38] <Discerer> hmm the ftp server guide on ubuntuguide.org doesn't say how to add users to the ftp server. anyone know?
[03:38] <Janchi> livingdaylight: just as easy (or complicated) as Fireworks
[03:38] <livingdaylight> Janchi, no way, its friggin nightmare and takes ages
[03:38] <allz> is ubuntu better then kubuntu?
[03:39] <allz> just ask yes or no please
[03:39] <livingdaylight> i just want to print  a photo!
[03:39] <Arcad3> allz Kubuntu is using KDE
[03:39] <livingdaylight> Janchi, have to waste tons of paper and ink
[03:39] <Janchi> livingdaylight: what did you try so far?
[03:39] <ovihc_> alimr: the issue is not that it's a dell computer. the problem is your card. i found several topics on the internet about using your model of the card in linux.
[03:39] <kinuxer> no,i like ubuntu with gnome,it looks simple
[03:39] <allz> what does that mean arcad3
[03:39] <livingdaylight> Janchi, gimp
[03:39] <murchadh> I see some printing probs. Anyone have any joy with the HP Photosmart range of printers! Can't get M$ off this machine until I can get some properly sized photo output from my 7960. livingdaylight I feel your pain!
[03:39] <allz> and ubuntu using kdm
[03:39] <allz> what is the difrence?
[03:39] <Janchi> livingdaylight: even in Windows it is not simply click and print. You are using the settings more automatically there
[03:40] <Arcad3> i dont know
[03:40] <livingdaylight> Janchi, and then tried just opening the photo from nautilus and clicking print
[03:40] <Arcad3> its similar to Gnome
[03:40] <ovihc_> almir: it has to do with the ati driver. if you use either the vesa or the ati driver, then everything should work, but you might be missing precious hardware accelleration.
[03:40] <ovihc_> almir: i meant to say, "either the vesa or radeon driver"
[03:40] <Janchi> livingdaylight: that is similar to trying that from the Explorer under Windows. If you do that it will print the photo without any regard for settings
[03:40] <Arcad3> can someone help me with cgi and perl scripts?
[03:41] <Arcad3> i installed php5-cgi
[03:41] <darkbishop> Aberry: hey its work.. thx man
[03:41] <almir> ovihc_: okey
[03:41] <livingdaylight> Janchi, why do i have to open gimp anyways, just to print a photo, and then although i cropped it to the size i want i comes out huge or not at all
[03:41] <Arcad3> i dont know how to configure httpd.conf to read cgi and perl
[03:41] <livingdaylight> i hate LInux right now
[03:41] <livingdaylight> its a piece of hobby crap
[03:41] <Janchi> livingdaylight: it is not Linux that is the problem
[03:41] <almir> ovihc_: thx
[03:42] <kinuxer> sudo: must be setuid root
[03:42] <kinuxer> kinuxer kinuxer kinuxer I type sudo synaptic,then show that!
[03:42] <Janchi> livingdaylight: it might be your ability to switch softwarepackages. There is a learning curve involved in the change
[03:42] <teledyn> how do i completely disable kernel automounting of /dev/hdc ?
[03:42] <kinuxer> anybody can help me?sudo: must be setuid root
[03:42] <kinuxer> kinuxer kinuxer kinuxer I type sudo synaptic,then show that!
[03:42] <ovihc_> almir: welcome
[03:43] <livingdaylight> janchi dont give me all that mumbo jumbo linux rhetoric
[03:43] <darkbishop> teledyn: hmm edit /etf/fdisk
[03:43] <Janchi> livingdaylight: no mumbo jumbo, training experience
[03:43] <livingdaylight> Janchi, is that all linux people can say when people are frustrated by linux's incapacity to do simple things?
[03:43] <almir> ovihc_: u choose this at the options meny, right?
[03:43] <livingdaylight> I just want to print a 4x6 photo goddammn it!
[03:43] <Janchi> livingdaylight: no, but if you are not willing to learn the simple solution is to stick with Windows
[03:44] <teledyn> darkbishop: wtf is /etf/fdisk  ?
[03:44] <ovihc_> almir: in the boot menu.
[03:44] <darkbishop> teledyn: hmm edit /etc/fdisk
[03:44] <teledyn> darkbishop: what is that?  it doesn't exist
[03:44] <almir> ovihc_: ? before i even enter ubuntu?
[03:44] <ovihc_> yes
[03:45] <Janchi> livingdaylight: what did/do you use under windows to print photos?
[03:45] <murchadh> livingdaylight: I'm having problems which sound very similar to yours, and it is on my agenda for this evening. I have tried in krita and gimp, but like you the waste of ink made me give up. HP are sucking enough out of me with their dearer than gold inks!
[03:45] <darkbishop> teledyn, yes there is.. lemme check
[03:45] <livingdaylight> Janchi,  i haven't used windows for 4 years
[03:45] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, if you want to just print the image as it is, you don't need Gimp. If you want to edit the image (resize, etc.), then you need an image editor. Not necessarily Gimp, though
[03:45] <Jural> man fdisk
[03:45] <deusjevoo> Janchi, you gave a link from a friend of you to, can you paste again plz?
[03:45] <devilsadvocate> darkbishop, that is fstab
[03:45] <Janchi> deusjevoo: www.digiplace.nl
[03:46] <teledyn> Jural: was that addressed to anyone in particular?
[03:46] <we2by> what php script do you use as a blogger?
[03:46] <kinuxer> anybody can help me?sudo: must be setuid root
[03:46] <kinuxer> I type sudo synaptic,then show that!
[03:46] <teledyn> jeeezus
[03:46] <teledyn>   /etc/fdisk   right
[03:47] <livingdaylight> hastesaver, well, i used to gimp to resize my image because no i don't want to spend ink on an A4 size photo - no thank you very MUCH! having resized/cropped it i thought i could just print it like you say from an image viewer, but then it comes out A4 again. Does LInux realize that ink is expensive?
[03:47] <darkbishop> yeah.. its suppost to be /etc/fstab
[03:47] <darkbishop> thx devilsadvocate
[03:47] <deusjevoo> yep, that's it
[03:47] <teledyn> darkbishop: no shit?  really?  thanks for your help
[03:47] <SoftIce> hi, how do you install the source for ubuntu?
[03:47] <Janchi> livingdaylight: why are you generalizing a photo problem to a complete OS?
[03:47] <SoftIce> some programs say I need the source
[03:47] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, there is probably a print preview somewhere...
[03:48] <Rarj> Can Ubuntu be booted from a flash drive ?
[03:48] <murchadh> kinuxer: I think your user (who you are logged in as) needs to be added to the sudoers group, which is admin or adm I think.
[03:48] <almir> ovihc_: that is not equel BIOS is it?
[03:48] <livingdaylight> murchadh, there is an ink cartel. It must be worth the price of gold i agree. It is total daylight-robbery. And to compound the problem we have to waste pages and pages figuring out how to get it to print the size and co-ordinates we want
[03:48] <ovihc_> almir: no
[03:48] <SoftIce> sorry I mean how do I install the kernel source for ubuntu?
[03:48] <teledyn> darkbishop: and what, exactly, do you propose to change in /etc/fdisk - excuse me - /etc/fstab ?
[03:49] <ovihc_> almir: your cd loads. then you get a screen before you boot ubuntu. in that screen, i think it should say something like "press enter to boot" i can load it on my computer but you'll have to wait for me to download the image.
[03:49] <livingdaylight> murchadh, would youbelieve me if i told i had to place my 4x6 paper in so many diferent wasy before it was in alignment with where the printer put the image, usually missing and printing off it and wasting so much and ink and paper this way
[03:49] <darkbishop> teledyn: cut tat out..... just delete anything tat saying /dev/hdc from end to end
[03:49] <livingdaylight> Janchi, get out  of denial
[03:49] <ovihc_> kinuxer: you have to issue a chmod +u path_to_sudo
[03:49] <almir> ovihc_: i think i have 2 choises: F2 for boot or F12 for setup
[03:50] <Janchi> livingdaylight: Can I ask why you are here? to get proper help or debunk Linux?
[03:50] <darkbishop> teledyn:dont forget to backup...
[03:50] <teledyn> darkbishop: you are a moron and shouldn't be offering people "advice" on irc, even if it makes you think you're smart
[03:50] <livingdaylight> Janchi, you know it is LInux and LInux and LInux. Everyone knows LInux sux when it comes to doing anything simple and practiacal. It is good only for installing one flavor and then the other and then another one but never doing anything practical, especially not printing
[03:50] <darkbishop> teledyn:but other people dont seem to be bother with ur question
[03:50] <livingdaylight> Janchi, you need to join Linux Anonymous
[03:50] <jaek> omg my computer froze and cleared out my /tmp when i restarted... i need a file that was in there... how can i undelete a file that was there?
[03:50] <rickyfingers> softice: use synaptic, do a serch for kernel source, scroll down to about the middle of the results, it's the linux-source package
[03:50] <Nlytn> hi - installed ubuntu this morning, but its being really laggy and slow... im getting a lot of "force quit" windows, and opening programs takes an age most of the time, im on a 3ghz p4 1.5gb so :\ - help please? :x
[03:50] <almir> ovihc_: and the F2 meny isn't really working as i should be and i don't see a lot of settings options there
[03:51] <Janchi> livingdaylight: I work under Linux daily, as well as with Windows and Mac OS X. I never had any problems with either of them. So.. .not everyone knows...
[03:51] <teledyn> darkbishop: maybe because they don't know the answer and aren't pretending to be experts?
[03:51] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, most people here don't have those problems. They might be willing to help you too, but if you're abusive...
[03:51] <jeroen__> can anyone help me with some iptables stuff?
[03:51] <SoftIce> rickyfingers: would linux-headers-server be sufficient?
[03:51] <darko3d> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl?highlight=%28beryl%29, how can i download the file to install them offline
[03:51] <iwkse> anybody known where is possible to edit schema gnome files?
[03:51] <livingdaylight> hastesaver, there is a printpreview but it doewsn't let you change the size or anything. So it prints what it prints and i would expect that to be the new size of the image i just cropped using gimp
[03:51] <teledyn> anyhow thanks i'll google it
[03:51] <ovihc_> almir: try F12 then.
[03:52] <livingdaylight> hastesaver, you obviously havn't got any expereince in this department i can tell
[03:52] <almir> ovihc_: but that is bios :(
[03:52] <murchadh> livingdaylight: I hear you! Must admit I've been using this printer for almost three years under Windoze, and bar the running cost, I've been happy with it. But it isn't as straightforward as people would have you believe to get photo quality printing in Linux. I know it is possible but I'm having problems with it. And HP are supposed to be one of the companies embracing the OS! Have been using Linux since 1993 (Slackware then, Kubuntu no)! We'll get
[03:52] <murchadh> there....
[03:52] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, keep resizing the image, see if print preview shows what you want, and don't print until it does.
[03:52] <kinuxer> could you tell me the more detail?thank you!
[03:52] <rickyfingers> SoftIce: well, those are the headers you need in order to compile the kernel
[03:53] <darko3d> sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1 beryl emerald-themes beryl-settings xorg-driver-fglrx linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` <-- i ran this, but connection is bad and some files are failing to download everytime there's a timeout, is there a package i can download one time and run it offline, i have dapper with an ati card, if that helps?
[03:53] <livingdaylight> hastesaver, printpreview in image viewer is a waste of time, see for yourself
[03:53] <darko3d> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl?highlight=%28beryl%29, how can i download the file to install them offline
[03:53] <KomiaPoika> where can i get a list of sysctl commands?
[03:53] <ovihc_> almir: i'm downloading the ubuntu install cd. you'll have to wait +-24 min. so that i can see it myself.
[03:54] <Janchi> livingdaylight: maybe it helps if you explain what you did try already? Or you can move to the GIMP IRC to get some specialist help on the package there.
[03:54] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, oh, try printing from Gimp, not from the image viewer
[03:54] <rickyfingers> KomiaPoika: are you talking about options you can give to sysctl ?
[03:54] <macluvjay> KomiaPoika, have you checked the man pages?
[03:54] <jaek> i never saw my /tmp get wiped on reboot, does that usually happen?
[03:55] <darko3d> how do you install mplayer
[03:55] <macluvjay> -p should instate any changes you've made to /etc/sysctl
[03:55] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, and actually, you don't even need to resize the image. While printing from Gimp, there is a scaling option, as well as one for positioning the image on the page
[03:55] <livingdaylight> hastesaver, dude, i appreciate your intention but you obviously have no experience in this department, and you're only suggesting things off the top of your head, thigns i've already tried - thx but no thx
[03:55] <almir> ovihc_: i think the problem is in my computer not in the CD
[03:55] <matason> I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 6.06 on my IBM X31 using a USB HDD - I followed instructions on how to make the HDD bootable (instructions were for a USB stick - not sure if that makes any difference) anyway when I set the BIOS to boot from the USB HDD it cannot detect an OS... Any ideas?
[03:56] <teledyn> livingdaylight: that happens a lot here doesn't it?
[03:56] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, as you wish. I'm using Gimp right now, and I can see that it lets you print to any size.
[03:56] <ovihc_> almir: why do you think that? the solution is to switch from using the ati driver to the vesa or radeon driver, which is chosen in the boot menu. and i'm thinking that you are confusing your bios boot menu with the boot menu from the cd.
[03:57] <almir> ovihc_:okej
[03:57] <allz> ubuntu , please tell allz about nvidia
[03:57] <teledyn> livingdaylight: i disagree with you on printing though
[03:57] <allz> !nvidia
[03:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:57] <livingdaylight> hastesaver, your whole printing from imageviewer and it giving you printpreview was frankly baloney.. And i tried the reszing and printing out of gimp thing and no it wasn't successful
[03:57] <Janchi> livingdaylight: printer driver, maybe?
[03:58] <almir> ovihc_: but didn't we say before ubuntu was loaded, or did u only mean the desktop there
[03:58] <livingdaylight> teledyn, you have not had issues printing photographs to your size specification?
[03:58] <SillyZ> gmorning
[03:58] <Qshadowp> just installing ubuntu linux for the first time on my pc, never used any form of linux before...
[03:58] <almir> ovihc_: well dude, im running out of time
[03:58] <darko3d> how do you install mplayer
[03:58] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, you didn't listen. Print *from* GIMP. Not resize in Gimp and print from somewhere else.
[03:58] <Qshadowp> got to 20% (Scanning files)
[03:58] <Qshadowp> and its crashed
[03:58] <SillyZ> Im preparing to setup ubuntu/kubuntu on a dell e1705 laptop, anyone have any advice before I begin setup on this machine, things to watch out for, etc
[03:58] <savvas> Qshadowp: welcome to the free,community supported side then :)
[03:58] <Aberry> darko3d, sudo synaptic
[03:58] <teledyn> livingdaylight: i haven't tried printing images that much
[03:58] <ovihc_> almir: the desktop. good next time then..
[03:58] <Qshadowp> thanks savvas :)
[03:58] <almir> ovihc_: gotto go, but thx for the help
[03:59] <Nlytn> can someone tell me what application "dd" is? it was hogging over 50% cpu non stop :|
[03:59] <hastesaver> !mplayer > darko3d
[03:59] <Qshadowp> im likeing it all apart from this crash :(
[03:59] <Qshadowp> what should i do? :P
[03:59] <rickyfingers> darko3d: i always just get the url fromn google
[03:59] <livingdaylight> hastesaver, you did suggest the former too, and i tried the latter aswell, i think you;'re not listening
[03:59] <savvas> Qshadowp: what are you scanning?
[03:59] <Aberry> qshadow, is the cd a decent copydo you know
[03:59] <rickyfingers> darko3d: then i download source & codecs
[03:59] <livingdaylight> teledyn, well you try it :) its a friggin nightmare
[03:59] <Janchi> !dd
[03:59] <Qshadowp> Aberry downloaded it straight from the official ubuntu site and burned it to a brand new blank cd
[03:59] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, ok, try the latter again. Sorry about suggesting the former. :-)
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <Qshadowp> so i would assume so
[03:59] <Nlytn> ^^
[03:59] <rickyfingers> then just read through the README, and follow directions
[04:00] <Nlytn> !klogd
[04:00] <teledyn> livingdaylight: some apps have crappy printing, some are better
[04:00] <Qshadowp> i mean it booted up ok
[04:00] <ubotu> klogd: Kernel Logging Daemon. In component main, is important. Version 1.4.1-18ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 140 kB
[04:00] <Aberry> doesnt mean it isnt dodgy :p I would try redownloading and burning slowly
[04:00] <hastesaver> darko3d, You should be able to install Mplayer the same way you install other apps. It's in Synaptic, or Add/Remove Applications
[04:00] <Qshadowp> booted up, hit the install button got to 20% of installing system (Scanning files) and just froze up
[04:00] <Qshadowp> so what should i do now just hard reboot my pc?
[04:00] <Aberry> qshadow unfortunately Ive had that problem myself on another distro, did not install properly because of a dodgy burn
[04:00] <livingdaylight> hastesaver, dude... i need a breather so much ink wastage...those cartridges are so expensive. If they were'nt i wouldn't mind wastoing a few trying to get it right, but i wish it was simpler, honestly
[04:00] <darko3d> i didn't find it in add/remove
[04:01] <ovihc_> Nlytn: dd copies data from one place to another. it could be syslogd.
[04:01] <savvas> Qshadowp: you're not reinstalling over an old version are you?
[04:01] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, when printing from Gimp, do you see a "scaling" option at the bottom? I do
[04:01] <Qshadowp> no
[04:01] <teledyn> livingdaylight: i remember once having really good results with a kde-based photo app where you could layout the page with photos of different sizes.  can't remember what its called.
[04:01] <Qshadowp> im installing onto a secondary hard drive
[04:01] <Qshadowp> i have windows xp on my primary drive
[04:01] <livingdaylight> teledyn, printing family images etc, is basic home-desktop usage now adays
[04:01] <livingdaylight> hastesaver, yes, i do too
[04:01] <Nlytn> ovihc_: ah, thankyou
[04:01] <bluefox83> !avi
[04:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:02] <teledyn> livingdaylight: tried digikam ?
[04:02] <Aberry> qshadow, did you chose the partition yourself or let linux do it?
[04:02] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, if you saw it, did you try it? 'cause it should work. There is a graphic of the page in the left-top corner, which shows how the image would look on the page.
[04:02] <livingdaylight> hastesaver, and how do i know i've got the size you want
[04:02] <Qshadowp> i let linux do it
[04:02] <Qshadowp> i took the option to let linux partition its own space
[04:02] <livingdaylight> teledyn, f-spot in ubuntu
[04:02] <Qshadowp> i had around 9gb free space on that drive
[04:02] <savvas> weird
[04:02] <livingdaylight> teledyn, digikam not sure
[04:02] <Qshadowp> the rest of it was just data
[04:02] <Nlytn> is there a way to restart X, to load my new gfx drivers without rebooting?
[04:02] <Aberry> qshadow, ack! hope that it hasnt eaten you windows partition and restart, then, and next time choose to install on the empty disk
[04:02] <LinuxHelp> I've just inserted a tv capture card. Linux seems to recognise it. How do I watch tv? Should I install tvtime? (Ubuntu 6.10)
[04:02] <murchadh> livingdaylight: You sound like me a couple of weeks ago! I gave up on it, but may get to it this evening. Next to try is messing with the dpi's and then further investigation of HP software/drivers. What is your printer btw?
[04:02] <alitoch> hi everybody
[04:03] <ovihc_> Nlytn: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[04:03] <Qshadowp> Aberry it can't have because my windows partition is on the primary drive
[04:03] <teledyn> livingdaylight: give it a try.  its the premier kde based photo app that probably does most of what other consumer home photo apps do
[04:03] <hastesaver> Nlytn, you can kill X and restart it. Log out, then press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. X should get "zapped" and the login screen should return again.
[04:03] <alitoch> could somebody be nice enough to help me in private ?
[04:03] <Qshadowp> i told it to install on the slave drive
[04:03] <Qshadowp> which is just data, that isn't really important anyways
[04:03] <hastesaver> !pm
[04:03] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[04:03] <Qshadowp> i guess i'll reboot into windows and format that drive then give it another go
[04:03] <Nlytn> hastesaver: thanks
[04:04] <The_Machine> how do i look at the partition information of a external hdd connected via usb?
[04:04] <livingdaylight> teledyn, will look into it, thx for the suggestion
[04:04] <teledyn> livingdaylight: gimp can be kind of cryptic to figure out unless you're a graphics wizard
[04:04] <murchadh> Nlytn: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart or kdm if that's what you're using.  I've not had problems with printer drivers. I have an Epson RX Stylus 425 and it picks it up no problem it s then coordinating and getting the applications to play ball that is challenging
[04:05] <ovihc_> The_Machine: sudo cfdisk /dev/_usb_drive
[04:05] <mamzers555> he, is there a plugin that translates words, if you only move the mouse-pointer over it? i have seen it in internet explorer, is there something for firefox?
[04:06] <mwe> Is a wifi card that is conforming to 802.11g limited to a max of 54Mbit/s or is it it a minimum?
[04:06] <Janchi> alitoch: I am waiting
[04:06] <Aberry> g+ is 125mbps, g is 54
[04:06] <The_Machine> thanks ovihc_
[04:06] <livingdaylight> teledyn, i just got Akkana Peck's Beginning Gimp from Apress publishers. I agree it is a mind-field. I want to just be able to open my photo album, say F-spot or whatever, select a photo and print it. Godammmm it!!! I'm getting all pissed off again all over just thingking about it!
[04:07] <The_Machine> is there a GUI partition manager available for ubuntu?
[04:07] <The_Machine> so i can format this external hdd?
[04:07] <Janchi> The_Machine: yes, gparted
[04:07] <ovihc_> The_Machine: gparted.
[04:07] <The_Machine> thanks Janchi and ovihc_!
[04:07] <Aberry> livingdaylight, try xara instead of, or along side, gimp, it works on vectors but its pretty powerful
[04:07] <teledyn> livingdaylight: gqview is the other photo viewer i like.  i don't know how great it prints but its a good general viewer
[04:07] <livingdaylight> teledyn, Why can't i just friggin open my photo album and select an image and select some standard size [4x6]  [5x7]  etc and click 'print' ??
[04:08] <murchadh> livingdaylight: Was hoping you were using a HP too. Yeah, it print's a lovely test page, where it should appear on the A4 sheet. Then from krita or gimp it print's my 6X4 photo as a poster. Whoo-hoo....
[04:08] <livingdaylight> Aberry, is it like Inkscape?
[04:08] <dennis_> .
[04:08] <mwe> but could an 802.11g card be faster than 54Mbit/s meaning that 54Mbit is guaruanteed but the rate may be higher?
[04:08] <Aberry> livingdaylight, I dont know inkscape sorry :S
[04:09] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, yes, there is probably a simple way. I really doubt you need something as powerful as Gimp. I would try to find out (I would need it when I buy a printer too), but the problem is, I'm not exactly using Ubuntu at the moment (I'm not at home) :-)
[04:09] <Aberry> livingdaylight, google it
[04:09] <Qshadowp> did a check on my disc and it said "Check finished, 5 checksums failed."
[04:09] <livingdaylight> murchadh, lol, ditto exaqctly, lol beautiful test page all the color spectrum -immaculate, and then 4x6 photo poster size , LOL
[04:09] <Qshadowp> i assume that means i have to re-write the disc?
[04:09] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, did you try printing with Gimp and the scaling thing?
[04:09] <Janchi> livingdaylight: something like this http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/02/09/0319227&tid=13&tid=49 , http://www.fogman.de/?GnomePhotoPrinter
[04:09] <Aberry> qshadow, yes thats why its not working, burn it at 2-4x speed, although long winded itll guarantee a nice cd :)
[04:10] <Qshadowp> Aberry ok :)
[04:10] <Aberry> qshadowp, good luck next time!
[04:10] <murchadh> livingdaylight: Wait 'til you hear my fix. Edit the photo to what you want, copy it to an SD card, stick that in the printer and print from the controls on the front of the printer. Technology! I'm not knocking Linux though. I love it, and this is the last thing I need to spend some time on - some time not some ink though. It's 45euro for 17ml here. Better mark-up than cocaine I'd say....
[04:10] <livingdaylight> Janchi, i just might need to be grateful to you there. That looks interesting. will look into that - thx
[04:11] <bluefox83> what codecs are needed by mplayer to run .avi files?
[04:11] <cmweb> Does any one know how to creaate a package and put it into the unuversal thing. I want to do this with zpanel whitch is a php script
[04:11] <Qshadowp> i assume theres no issues with burning the ubuntu iso with nero on windows xp?
[04:11] <livingdaylight> murchadh, lol :D
[04:11] <Janchi> livingdaylight: LOL. Don't worry. We all have been frustrated at times. Many times ;-)
[04:12] <teledyn> bluefox83: /msg ubotu mplayer
[04:12] <Aberry> qshadow, no, though the smallest and easiest for xp is "isorecorder" only 400kb and installs without restart, worked fine with me
[04:12] <Qshadowp> :)
[04:12] <bluefox83> Qshadowp, sometimes nero wants to add it's own little dos-like loader thingy to it and makes it pretty much impossible to boot..you might try burning it a few ways to make sure
[04:12] <Janchi> livingdaylight: I just googled "Photo printing Linux". There is more to find under that search
[04:12] <ish> So with Edgy, on an AMD64 system in 32 bit mode should I be using linux-image-generic?
[04:12] <Qshadowp> ok i'll try isorecorder then
[04:13] <ish> I don't see specific k7 kernels.
[04:13] <deusjevoo> Qshadowp
[04:13] <murchadh> livingdaylight: What distro are you using? Forgot I wasn't on #kubuntu at the moment.
[04:13] <Qshadowp> yea?
[04:13] <deusjevoo> what burner and media?
[04:13] <Aberry> qshadow, then to burn an iso you just have to right click on the cd and select record, like a built in windows sub-program
[04:13] <Qshadowp> internal dvd-rw inside a dell latitude d600
[04:13] <vpd> what can i do if 'df' shows wrong disk size?
[04:13] <vpd> disk=partition
[04:13] <deusjevoo> what speed?
[04:13] <Qshadowp> i tried 16x first
[04:14] <Qshadowp> but i'll download isorecorder and do it as slow as possible
[04:14] <livingdaylight> murchadh, LInux Mint as it happens, basicaly Ubuntu(EDGY) + MP3 ;)
[04:14] <deusjevoo> that's its max speed?
[04:14] <Qshadowp> yea :|
[04:14] <deusjevoo> ok, and the media, 48 or 52 ?
[04:14] <Qshadowp> no clue
[04:14] <deusjevoo> brand?
[04:15] <Qshadowp> doesn't say on the drive
[04:15] <Qshadowp> dell lol
[04:15] <Qshadowp> its just one of those built into a ugly laptop ones
[04:15] <Aberry> qshadow, if its a laptop do it on a table or something, keep it still, jiggling around the place doesnt help as is the case with laptops
[04:15] <deusjevoo> I mean the disk you're gonna burn, what speed is that?
[04:15] <cmweb> Has any one ever used Zpanel?
[04:15] <Qshadowp> deusjevoo no clue either lol
[04:15] <Qshadowp> just some blank ritecs i picked up at the shop
[04:15] <livingdaylight> Aberry, ok, i found it in repositories with Synaptic. just installed it so will see. Sounds similar to inkscape. but i still feel printing should be as simple as selecting your photo album selecting image/photo specifying size and clicking print. I think Janchi  may have found what i need, thx again for the input :)
[04:15] <deusjevoo> maybe your burner doesn't know the right strategy for it and needs a firmware update
[04:16] <deusjevoo> don't go slower then 4x
[04:16] <deusjevoo> as its probably a high speed media
[04:16] <Qshadowp> ok
[04:16] <livingdaylight> hastesaver, did you say you're not in UBuntu? Please don't tell me your using windows? please dont?
[04:16] <Aberry> livingdaylight, good luck with it though I dont know about the printing, Ive seem some pretty damned impressive stuff done with it though
[04:16] <deusjevoo> normally, 8x should be a better value, if your system is fast enough
[04:17] <Qshadowp> yea 8x was the slowest nero would allow me to go
[04:17] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, no, I'm using Debian. (That's why I could run Gimp, and all that... but this is quite an old distro)
[04:17] <deusjevoo> you could try an RW
[04:17] <The_Machine> hey Janchi - i have gparted up but it's showing a lock on my external HDD
[04:17] <The_Machine> even when i run it using root
[04:17] <Qshadowp> deusjevoo don't have any lol
[04:18] <Qshadowp> i don't burn discs that often
[04:18] <Qshadowp> i use a virtual drive in windows for any isos i get ;)
[04:18] <mamzers555> !gpl
[04:18] <ubotu> gpl is the GNU General Public License. See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
[04:18] <mamzers555> !lgpl
[04:18] <ubotu> lgpl is the Lesser GPL, formerly called the Library GPL. See http://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl.html
[04:18] <carlosqueso> The_Machine: is your HD mounted?
[04:18] <deusjevoo> using windows?
[04:18] <Aberry> I dont think it matters burning at slower speeds, particularly, as it simply defines the data more when it burns. I would just go as slow as possible, I did my burn with at 2x on 52x media and no md5 errors, all five distro cds Ive burnt
[04:19] <The_Machine> yes.
[04:19] <deusjevoo> get imgburn
[04:19] <Qshadowp> atm yea but im trying to switch to linux
[04:19] <The_Machine> carlosqueso: yes
[04:19] <livingdaylight> hastesaver, ok.  Something like umount /dev/sda1
[04:20] <Qshadowp> cool
[04:20] <inimesekene> i have here this problem that well i messed a bit with my partitions and i have ext3ifs installed in win and so when i booted to win my main partition (that i didn't mess with and has my ubuntu) wanted to be formatted, i didn't and tried booting ubuntu, no luck so i went into recovery mode and it said it didn't find the partition and it will create a temp shell to repair it and press ctrl+d to exit and continue with boot so i did and...
[04:20] <Qshadowp> i remember DVD Decrypter used to use that myself ;)
[04:21] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, sorry to hear that. Probably Gimp can't find your printer. Try the other things under Graphics, maybe.
[04:21] <deusjevoo> can use that to
[04:21] <inimesekene> it logged in as root and i checked ... everything is intact
[04:21] <Janchi> Gotta go. See you all
[04:21] <deusjevoo> imgburn is based on it
[04:21] <luisbg> is there a way of sending folders instead of just files with the send command of the ftp (console basic one)
[04:21] <vpd> sorry for repeat but does anybody know what to do if 'df' prints wrong partition size? can i fix it somehow?
[04:21] <inimesekene> but how can i fix the filesystem manually then?
[04:21] <livingdaylight> hastesaver, what do you mean by try other things under graphics?
[04:22] <Aberry> bubye everyone
[04:22] <livingdaylight> hastesaver, i don't see why it doens't read my printier. I set itup using 'setup printer' at the top
[04:22] <Aberry> qshadow, good luck with ubuntu, and if it doesnt work for you try pclinuxos :p
[04:22] <allz> how do i install ubuntu dapper .and can anyone of you post me a site that has .sources.list files .cause i am gonna need to use it
[04:23] <Compy> On edgy I am trying to remove a few of my raid arrays to remake them since we're having a problem. mdadm: fail to stop array /dev/md5: Device or resource busy I cant stop the array or remove it and I always get that. 'mount' doesnt show it as being mounted
[04:24] <carlosqueso> !install !repos | allz
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install !repos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <carlosqueso> !install | allz
[04:24] <ubotu> allz: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[04:25] <carlosqueso> !repos | allz
[04:25] <ubotu> allz: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:25] <juliux> hi could it be that the edgy netboot.tar.gz is broken? if i try to unpack it i get an eof error
[04:25] <soundray> juliux: where did you download it?
[04:25] <juliux> soundray, from http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[04:26] <lastnode> juliux, check the md5sum of it
[04:26] <juliux> lastnode, there is no md5sum;)
[04:26] <soundray> juliux: tests fine here. How are you trying to unpack?
[04:26] <lastnode> juliux, oh, then you're in a bit of a fix. it's most probably a bad download.
[04:26] <Bluhd> Is it just my computer or does the crossfire-server and crossfire-client packages not work properly under 6.10?
[04:26] <juliux> soundray, with tar xzf
[04:27] <soundray> juliux: I agree with lastnode. Download it again.
[04:27] <juliux> soundray, ok
[04:27] <soundray> juliux: I could give you the md5sum if you wanted to be sure?
[04:27] <segfault_> hi, in nautilus on edgy when i go to / it only shows me 3 dirs, how can set it up to actually show me my root fs ?
[04:27] <soundray> juliux: 677c0c6db5e23bc84910e758ca95eddd  netboot.tar.gz
[04:27] <juliux> soundray, i found the md5sum and my is an other one
[04:28] <thompa> printing for my laserjet was a mess, the ubuntu ppd file and foomatic files had to be all removed
[04:28] <Bluhd> soundray: what dirs are being displayed?
[04:28] <thompa> i wish i could find out what the culprit is, but i end up uninstalling so much stuff, then start over with cups local and printer works
[04:29] <Bluhd> soundray: nevermind, wrong person
[04:29] <murchadh> segfault_: There is a hidden file called .hidden in the root directory. any files listed in this will be hidden. Show hidden files or edit this file. sudo kate /.hidden
[04:29] <Bluhd> segfault_: what dirs are shown?
[04:29] <Compy> any ideas?
[04:29] <bartek__> is here neyone from poland?
[04:29] <bartek__> *enyone
[04:30] <soundray> Bluhd: what?!pl
[04:30] <segfault_> murchadh, thx ill try that
[04:30] <soundray> !pl
[04:30] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:30] <cmweb> bartek, anyone
[04:30] <segfault_> Bluhd, build, media home
[04:30] <cmweb> my bad
[04:30] <Bluhd> soundray: I made a mistake, I accidentally messaged you instead of segfault_
[04:30] <soundray> Oops Bluhd, already clarified
[04:30] <rickympl> hello, i cant change screen resolution, i go to system-prefs-screen resolution, change to the one i want and it just stays the same.
[04:30] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, sorry, I was away (and am now going away). I meant: try other applications under the "Applications->Graphics" (or whatever) menu. (Other than Gimp and F-Spot.) Maybe one of them is easy to use :-)
[04:30] <juliux> soundray, thanks now it is working
[04:30] <iwkse> Where can i find schema gnome files? I need to modify run_command_terminal but gconf-editor doesn't allow to edit schema...any help?
[04:30] <bartek__> a gdzie jest kanal ubuntu - pl :/
[04:30] <cmweb> bartek__: anyone
[04:30] <bartek__> jestem nowy na ircu
[04:30] <cmweb> wo, nvm
[04:31] <Bluhd> segfault_: oh, ok. try murchadh's suggestion then
[04:31] <livingdaylight> hastesaver, yea, i'm exploring alternatives
[04:31] <Bluhd> segfault_: I was just making sure you weren't in ~/ instead of /
[04:31] <segfault_> murchadh, sweet! thx that did it
[04:31] <bartek__> i dont know how i can join ubuntu-pl cannal
[04:31] <Bluhd>  /join #ubuntu-pl
[04:31] <soundray> bartek__: type /join #ubuntu-pl
[04:31] <mamzers555> he, is there a plugin that translates words, if you only move the mouse-pointer over it? i have seen it in internet explorer, is there something for firefox?
[04:31] <bartek__> where is it?
[04:31] <segfault_> Bluhd, :)
[04:31] <ck> hola machitos
[04:31] <bartek__> i m new
[04:31] <cmweb> bartek__: are you using gaim?
[04:31] <bartek__> no
[04:31] <hastesaver> bartek__, type "/join #ubuntu-pl" (without the quotes) in the same place you're typing this
[04:31] <ck> no parle inglis
[04:31] <bartek__> o use xchat
[04:32] <bartek__> *i use
[04:32] <gpled> is their a way to speedup package downloads when doing updates?
[04:32] <livingdaylight> hastesaver, gnome photo printer - seriously i think this could be the fix
[04:32] <thompa> anybody know what the problem is with setting up laserjets on ubuntu, is it the ppd file or foo**?
[04:32] <soundray> !es | ck
[04:32] <ubotu> ck: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:32] <cmweb> Then im no good here
[04:32] <Bluhd> bartek__: if you're in xchat then you can right-click on #ubuntu-pl and click "join channel"
[04:32] <livingdaylight> hastesaver, since you will come across many more who need help in this area, remember this application - gnome photo printer -
[04:32] <cmweb> http://www.thezpanel.com/?page=downloads can any one get a page from this where it will allow download
[04:32] <bartek__> i can
[04:33] <bartek__> thank everyone
[04:33] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, ok, thanks :-) But I don't really come here *that* often... nice to know your problem was solved, bye
[04:33] <livingdaylight> hastesaver, http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/02/09/0319227&tid=13&tid=49
[04:33] <ck> de que planeta sois
[04:33] <livingdaylight> hastesaver, i thought you were mr linux himself
[04:34] <gpled> anyone?
[04:34] <murchadh> segfault_: Good to hear! It's a new feature in edgy, but I have it working in my dapper as well. Kinda handy, but maybe could be flagged better as a new feature. Generates a few questions on the forums.
[04:34] <cmweb> can any one get http://www.thezpanel.com/?page=downloads to work right
[04:34] <livingdaylight> murchadh, have you checked gnome photo printer?
[04:34] <ck> hola  lineros
[04:35] <rickympl> how can i change resolution? its not working from the menu
[04:35] <thompa> is there some way to test for a bad hard drive while running in ubuntu?
[04:35] <soundray> !fixres | rickympl
[04:35] <ubotu> rickympl: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:35] <thevenin> cmweb: yes it works fine for me
[04:35] <ck> no inglis
[04:35] <cmweb> thevenin, whats the dfownload link for the latest one
[04:35] <thevenin> thompa: if the HD is bad you wont boot to ubuntu
[04:35] <thevenin> and if you do it wont be for long
[04:36] <gpled> cmweb: does not work for me
[04:36] <thevenin> one sec
[04:36] <rickympl> i mean, without restarting x
[04:36] <segfault_> murchadh, yea i dont like when my os hides stuff from me :)
[04:36] <cmweb> i need te download off of that site
[04:36] <thompa> thevenin: i just installed on one old one that was lying around, seems, ok
[04:36] <nownott> i have grub config correctly but everytime i boot windows i sets itself as the boot partition instead of ubuntu whcih has grub, is there a way to fix this?
[04:36] <thevenin> crap i closed it and now i cant pull it back up
[04:37] <itscool2hate> can someone please help me change my ubuntu server from french 2 english?
[04:37] <murchadh> livingdaylight: Been to their page. Gonna have a go at it later. Good luck with it, and post your results either way here. I'll be away for a while but I'll check back this evening (I'm on GMT). Thanks!
[04:37] <cmweb> thevenin, can you get the link
[04:37] <soundray> nownott: yes: install grub into the master boot record instead of the partition
[04:37] <thevenin> thompa: if it installed to the HD and booted into ubuntu then it is fine
[04:37] <eniac_petrov> carlosqueso, is it a bot command?
[04:37] <gpled> nownott: did you install windows before ubuntu?
[04:37] <carlosqueso> enaic_petrov? what?
[04:38] <livingdaylight> @europe
[04:38] <thevenin> cmweb: waiting for the DL link to load now
[04:38] <nownott> yes
[04:38] <cmweb> it gives an error in the  mysql server right?
[04:38] <livingdaylight> murchadh, London = gmt+1 ??
[04:38] <murchadh> rickympl: Try ctrl+alt+plus or minus on the keypad. Post results....
[04:38] <thevenin> cmweb: try this http://www.thezpanel.com/?page=downloads
[04:38] <soundray> !grub | nownott
[04:38] <ubotu> nownott: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:38] <eniac_petrov> carlosqueso, nothing, sorry. I just asked you: is it a bot command: !install !repos | allz
[04:38] <cmweb>  				Lost connection to MySQL server during query
[04:39] <carlosqueso> yeah....but I found out you can't stack them
[04:39] <soundray> nownott: the "Recovering..." howto will probably solve your problem
[04:39] <carlosqueso> eniac_petrov, sorry, I'd already forgotten that that's what I typed
[04:39] <rickympl> murchadh, nothing happens
[04:39] <carlosqueso> eniac_petrov: yes it is
[04:39] <eniac_petrov> carlosqueso, np :)
[04:40] <gpled> nownott: sounds like you installed ubuntu, then windows.  which will cause this kind of stuff to happen
[04:40] <nownott> na windows then ubuntu
[04:40] <eniac_petrov> yes, cool. ubotu is a bot :)
[04:40] <murchadh> rickympl: What graphics card have you got? What resolution is it running in now?
[04:40] <gpled> nownott: this a dell?
[04:41] <nownott> no
[04:41] <soundray> nownott: do you read me?
[04:41] <nownott> its a linux/xp/osx box
[04:41] <nownott> :)
[04:41] <cmweb> thevenin,				Lost connection to MySQL server during query
[04:41] <rickympl> murchadh, i was using cedega when this happened, it changes the res but the game crashed and now im stuck with that res and not the default
[04:42] <thompa> anyone know what ubuntu has for printing that other distros dont, does it use different drivers or something?
[04:42] <eniac_petrov> Guys, by the way: is there a driver for LCD monitors in the Ubuntu CD
[04:42] <thevenin> hrm
[04:42] <devilsadvocate> eniac_petrov, LCD should work out of the box
[04:42] <eniac_petrov> because I have error with X on 2 different computers with LCD monitors
[04:42] <thevenin> i would say search google for an alternate mirror of what you need
[04:42] <rickympl> murchadh, its at 640, but in the menu it states 1152
[04:42] <devilsadvocate> thompa, ubuntu has cupsd
[04:42] <eniac_petrov> i don't know why
[04:42] <devilsadvocate> what is the error?
[04:42] <thompa> i have to uninstall everything related to printing then start cups from scratch
[04:42] <thevenin> their is something wrong on their servers
[04:42] <soundray> thompa: you won't get any help with the type of question you're asking.  At first "Buffer I/O error on device dm-0. four lines or so of such message. Then I see "bad format on line 9 " (lines 15 and 19 also) of /etc/fstab
[04:43] <murchadh> rickympl: Don't know anything about cedega! But it sounds like you need to reconfigure the xserver. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should reconfigure that!
[04:43] <eniac_petrov> the console says: there isn't X screens...
[04:43] <gpled> devilsadvocate: unless you have a dell gx150
[04:43] <rickympl> murchadh, wouldnt that just make another xorg.conf file?
[04:44] <carlosqueso> eniac_petrov: do you have a CRT that you can plug in?
[04:44] <devilsadvocate> gpled, ?
[04:44] <cmweb> Does na yone know of another boot manager for this and xp home? boot didnt load my windows restore and if its actuly gone then this is all i got left
[04:44] <thompa> soundray: my pages are cut off on bottom after printing, maybe 3 lines or more, also test pages, it works now, but i wish i knew what i did
[04:44] <devilsadvocate> wouldnt it be a problem with the graphics drivers and not the monitor?
[04:44] <thevenin> cmweb: lilo i do beleive could be wrong
[04:45] <cmweb> thevenin, im not using lilo im using grub
[04:45] <gpled> devilsadvocate: if you run it 1280x1024 it has lines all over it. in ubuntu 6.06
[04:45] <devilsadvocate> eniac_petrov, the problem is probably with your graphics chipset drivers
[04:45] <thevenin> what are you looking for then
[04:45] <ragnar_123> how do I convert a amr (cellphone sound file) to some other, readable file? (in ubuntu)
[04:45] <devilsadvocate> gpled, do you have the 915resolution package?
[04:45] <eniac_petrov> carlosqueso, no. This computer are in offices. Sux!
[04:45] <eniac_petrov> maybe
[04:45] <thevenin> you wanted another boot manager correct
[04:45] <Florob> Hi, everybody. Does someone know where gnome-window-decorator in feisty has gone? Or is there a different way to get window boarders now?
[04:45] <cmweb> thevenin, another one besides those two
[04:45] <soundray> cmweb: can you boot the machine while we chat?
[04:46] <thevenin> oh
[04:46] <devilsadvocate> Florob, Fiesty?
[04:46] <cmweb> I dont know how to do that
[04:46] <carlosqueso> eniac_petrov I'd run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose the vesa driver
[04:46] <gpled> devilsadvocate: if it is in by default i do.  i have not installed it manualy.
[04:46] <thompa> soundray: i onlt get the problem with laserjet on ubuntu, and uninstall cups and foo stuff, restart , go to cups local and reinstall printer, then it works, maybe its cupsd is different, i got no probs anty other distro
[04:46] <peter_t> I have just done an automatic update of my ubuntu 6.06 installation, and the root partition will not mount.
[04:46] <stojance> What is the program that can convert Ogg or Mp3 to AMR format?
[04:46] <cmweb> soundray, im not sure how to do that
[04:46] <devilsadvocate> gpled, i would try installing that. sudo apt-get install 915esolution
[04:46] <Florob> devilsadvocate: no feisty
[04:46] <devilsadvocate> and search on the forums for how-tos
[04:46] <carlosqueso> eniac_petrov it'll look like crap, but you can rule out your monitors being the problem
[04:46] <gpled> devilsadvocate: thanks, will try that
[04:47] <soundray> cmweb: you're not sure how to boot? Or you haven't got a second computer to continue chatting?
[04:47] <eniac_petrov> carlosqueso, 10x!
[04:47] <cmweb> oh, second computer to continue chatting i dont.
[04:47] <soundray> cmweb: is Windows on hda1 on your machine?
[04:47] <thevenin> catch you guys later
[04:48] <gpled> man, takes for ever to get these updates.  only getting 39kB/s  can pull 300kB/s
[04:48] <eniac_petrov> carlosqueso, is there "debian installer" in the CD
[04:48] <cmweb> Yes, but ive had to resize the windows partion for this install and so i can provide more room for hosting, I NEVER touched the nstd sector or what ever its called
[04:48] <mamzers555> he, is there a plugin that translates words, if you only move the mouse-pointer over it? i have seen it in internet explorer, is there something for firefox?
[04:49] <soundray> cmweb: just answer my question, are you sure that Windows is on hda1?
[04:49] <carlosqueso> eniac_petrov, if you mean is that on the livecd yes, if it's telling you it's not there, that's really weird
[04:49] <gpled> there is no bittent or something for updating?
[04:49] <isildur> ive just tried to upgrade to 6.10 with aptitude theres an error "Processing was halted because there were too many errors." anybody an idea how to solve it???
[04:49] <devilsadvocate> mamzers555, search on addons.firefox.com . there might be
[04:49] <cmweb> soundray, i am positive
[04:49] <mamzers555> devilsadvocate; i did, but no luck
[04:49] <athum> hi
[04:49] <soundray> Okay, when you start the computer, do you get to the grub menu?
[04:49] <murchadh> rickympl: If your xorg.conf file looks OK, that cedega must still be in control of something in the machine. Can you disable/remove it and reboot. Or is that a big job?
[04:49] <patrick_king> is it possible for ubuntu to connect to a windows domain
[04:50] <peter_t> various errors presented, such as "/dev/hdc3: Entry 'znew' in /home (1095585) has deleted/unused node 1095706"
[04:50] <athum> Do you know what is program to download all files from server? Like Teleport Pro on win
[04:50] <cmweb> soundray, yes but i get windows xp and no NT re3store
[04:50] <athum> Do you know what is program to download all files from server? Like Teleport Pro on win
[04:50] <devilsadvocate> patrick_king, yes it does so from the almost defalut install
[04:50] <gpled> patrick_king: Active Directory domain?
[04:50] <peter_t> I can mount hdc3 from the live cd with no problem
[04:50] <soundray> cmweb: so you *can* boot Win XP from hda1?
[04:51] <cmweb> soundray, yes i can BUT i can not restore the system from the other partion that emachins put on
[04:51] <FlyingSquirrel32> I can't install libsdl1.2-dev 'cause I can't install libartsc0-dev  because libartsc0 is version 1.5.5 and libartsc0-dev is version 1.5.4. Am I the only one in this situation?
[04:51] <soundray> cmweb: okay, what is that other partition?
[04:51] <devilsadvocate> cmweb, dont you get the windows boot menu when you select xp from grub?
[04:51] <cmweb> Im not sure its the verry first one
[04:52] <gpled> patrick_king: an old NT stile domain yes.  new 2003 domain installed securely - no
[04:52] <cmweb> devilsadvocate, xp does not have a boot menu
[04:52] <patrick_king> devilsadvocate: on a windows machein i would get the profile from the server but from ubuntu what would happen
[04:52] <soundray> cmweb: you said that Windows XP was on the very first one (hda1)
[04:52] <gpled> patrick_king: if you dummy down the new domain (bad idea) then yes
[04:52] <devilsadvocate> patrick_king, what kind of connection are you trying?
[04:53] <devilsadvocate> patrick_king, wondows shares? exchange?
[04:53] <cmweb> {||||RESTORE|||||}{|||||XP resized to 10gb||||||}{||||||||||||LINUX|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||\)
[04:53] <cmweb> ^thats the diagram
[04:53] <soundray> cmweb: what is the device name of the restore partition?
[04:53] <cmweb> nts something
[04:54] <gpled> patrick_king: profiling is going to be a mess, because windows machine have diffrent file layout
[04:54] <cmweb> soundray, its like the tv thing
[04:54] <patrick_king> devilsadvocate: yeh its  a windows 2000 server, and i get my roaming profiles from it and i get all my files from it aswell
[04:54] <cmweb> soundray, the tv video
[04:54] <gpled> patrick_king: you would have to have the AD admin build you a special profile, which would be a lot of work
[04:54] <soundray> cmweb: I give up
[04:54] <FlyingSquirrel32> patrick_king: sorry, I just got here, did you join your ubuntu machine to a windows domain?
[04:55] <patrick_king> gpled: how would he do that
[04:55] <gpled> FlyingSquirrel32: he wants profiles
[04:55] <gpled> joining can be done.
[04:55] <cmweb> Soundray, its all on one diskdrive except for the ubuntu install which is on a 5gb drive
[04:55] <gpled> patrick_king: can i ask why you want to join?
[04:55] <FlyingSquirrel32> patrick_king: all you need to do is map your /home to the share on the windows server, not hard
[04:55] <patrick_king> flyingsquirrel32: i havent yet im going to tomorrow, its my college domain. they said if i can find out if it works they will do it
[04:55] <cmweb> suondray, the device on the restore i have no clue except for the type of partion
[04:56] <KHatfull> Greetings
[04:56] <prakka> greetings
[04:56] <FlyingSquirrel32> patrick_king: of course, the profile, wouldn't be the same as the windows profile, but your linux profile would roam with you and be stored in the same place where the windows one is
[04:56] <KHatfull> I'm a refugee from #ubuntuforums...nothing happening over there ;-)
[04:57] <carlosqueso> KHatfull: welcome to the busy one
[04:57] <peter_t> There's plenty happening here, it seems
[04:57] <FlyingSquirrel32> patrick_king: what exactly is your goal?
[04:57] <allz> !mount
[04:57] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[04:57] <KHatfull> hey carlosqueso, thanks
[04:57] <allz> hello can somone please post me .a site that can help me mount my windows
[04:58] <eniac_petrov> carlosqueso, ahhh. np. If  dpkg-reconfigure will not work, there is other "user friendly"/"Plug`n`play" distributions...
[04:58] <eniac_petrov> Mandriva or Debian.. :)
[04:58] <allz> to linux
[04:58] <KHatfull> carlosqueso: yeah, 931 as opposed to ~65....much busier
[04:58] <patrick_king> flyingsquirre32: my goal is to get ubuntu on my colege domain and access the internet and my files
[04:58] <peter_t> I wonder if anyone can advise me of the best way to get some advice fairly quickly
[04:58] <peter_t> I feel rather drowned out here.
[04:58] <linknet> how can one hear sound in ubuntu?
[04:58] <carlosqueso> !ntfs | allz
[04:58] <ubotu> allz: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:59] <carlosqueso> allt: sorry about giving you bot stuff, but I'm just no good at pasting into putty
[04:59] <gpled> patrick_king: i woul break this up in parts
[04:59] <FlyingSquirrel32> patrick_king: access your files is easy, access the internet depends on how you're blocked in the first place.
[04:59] <mooey> peter_t, the forums are usually pretty quick
[04:59] <syntaxx> anyone know why my tvtime sound is blurred? sounds like no signal
[04:59] <peter_t> mooey: maybe that's my best bet, thanks
[04:59] <mooey> peter_t, it can get abit busy in here, heh
[04:59] <peter_t> indeed
[04:59] <peter_t> I'm an IRC virgin...
[04:59] <FlyingSquirrel32> patrick_king: are your files on like an h: or something?
[04:59] <syntaxx> i always experience this on ubuntu but not on debian
[04:59] <linknet> where can u view webcam
[05:00] <peter_t> baptism of fire here...
[05:00] <carlosqueso> eniac_petrov: good luck, if you're looking for a liveCD and ubuntu won't work, I like both knoppix and Morphix lightgui
[05:00] <mikl> peter_t: lol
[05:00] <KHatfull> peter_t: ruh roh...
[05:00] <mooey> peter_t, then i guess 930 people in one channel is not a great place to start :D
[05:00] <prakka> lol ^^
[05:00] <peter_t> ya think?
[05:00] <KHatfull> mooey: LOL
[05:00] <gpled> patrick_king: if you ever realy want to join a windows AD domain, you have to use something called PAM, which gets messy fast
[05:00] <peter_t> Anyhoo, I'll head over to the forum I gues
[05:00] <peter_t> thanks guys
[05:00] <gpled> patrick_king: but i think you can get what you want just by talking to the network
[05:00] <KHatfull> peter_t: not to dis #ubuntu at all but try over at #ubuntuforums
[05:00] <mooey> peter_t, good luck with your problem
[05:00] <mikl> ActiveDirectory is the infernal spawn of evil
[05:01] <patrick_king> flyingsquirrel32:on the windows pc it is set to H: and the internet its a proxy server i have a user name and password for the net
[05:01] <temba> damn, what a join/quit flood here
[05:01] <FlyingSquirrel32> gpled: I would LOVE to learn to do that! I've tried a couple times
[05:01] <mikl> everybody knows that ;)
[05:01] <KHatfull> peter_t: little slower there...although a lot slower at the moment
[05:01] <FlyingSquirrel32> patrick_king: great, I've done that here. hold on one sec.
[05:01] <gpled> FlyingSquirrel32: i had it working.  stopped at the profiling.  it is not worth the effort.  was hoping novel was going to fix this
[05:02] <FlyingSquirrel32> I'm really after the authentication. Any good tutorials>?
[05:02] <eniac_petrov> carlosqueso, :)
[05:02] <gpled> FlyingSquirrel32: i can pull active directry info from my linux box, with out being part of the domain.  thats how i check email address
[05:02] <syntaxx> hi im having problems running tvtime in ubuntu.. the sound is blurred only buzzzzzzz anyone know how to fix this?
[05:03] <gpled> FlyingSquirrel32: i think i have a doc on how i did this for postfix, if your intrested
[05:03] <FlyingSquirrel32> patrick_king: first you need to figure out where the h: is mapped to it would look like \\fileserver\profiles
[05:04] <FlyingSquirrel32> gpled: no, I'm thinking like being able to log into a ubuntu machine using my domain username/password
[05:04] <rickyfingers> quit
[05:04] <syntaxx> hi im having problems running tvtime in ubuntu.. the sound is blurred only buzzzzzzz anyone know how to fix this?
[05:04] <matason_> Iam trying to get Ubuntu onto my laptop that doesn't have a CD ROM, can I install Ubuntu on it's HDD if I put it in an external cradle and hang it off my other laptop?
[05:05] <matason_> Does that have a chance of working?