[09:38] <SlimG2> ScarFreewill: He can temporarily add the parameter by pressing E in the bootmenu and add the parameter at the end of the linux boot line
[09:38] <amnesiac_> ok again chris
[09:38] <chris_scummette> :)
[09:38] <DaSkreech> zombielion: yes? no?
[09:38] <ScarFreewill> SlimG2: cool I'll tell him..
[09:38] <amnesiac_> open with alt f2 the command
[09:39] <chris_scummette> yep
[09:39] <zombielion> DaSkreech: yes thank you
[09:39] <amnesiac_> then enter the filebrowsers name konquror
[09:39] <chris_scummette> lol ok
[09:39] <chris_scummette> and then
[09:40] <DaSkreech> zombielion: Enjoy :) hopefully when the servers resolve you can just install ibxine-extracodecs and get even more codecs
[09:40] <|Dylan|> does any1 know what (k)ubuntu uses instead of inittab?  I know it has init.d, but im trying to configure runit frmo the apt repos, and its returning errors from lack of an inittab file.  i could touch it, but i assume i should modify the script to point to the correct file--if i can find it
[09:40] <amnesiac_> spell it rhight :)
[09:40] <amnesiac_> then alt o
[09:40] <amnesiac_> then alt u
[09:40] <zombielion> DaSkreech: now i dont have to try and download vlc?
[09:40] <amnesiac_> or just the button option
[09:40] <zombielion> DaSkreech: i just got the extra codecs
[09:40] <chris_scummette> i dont hav this
[09:40] <amnesiac_> sorry i am a key bord freak hate the mouse
[09:41] <chris_scummette> i dont have "options"
[09:41] <amnesiac_> ther have to be options
[09:41] <kronos91> ciao
[09:41] <vic> salvea  tutti
[09:41] <|Dylan|> cya
[09:41] <SlimG2> !w32codecs | zombielion
[09:41] <ubotu> zombielion: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[09:42] <amnesiac_> i will try to send you a screen shot
[09:42] <SlimG2> !libdvdcss | zombielion
[09:42] <ubotu> zombielion: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[09:42] <|Dylan|> !inittab
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inittab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:43] <|Dylan|> does anyone here know if ubuntu will read an inittab file if it exists?
[09:44] <Lacrymology> hellp
[09:44] <Lacrymology> hekko
[09:44] <Lacrymology> damnit
[09:44] <Lacrymology> hellp
[09:44] <Lacrymology> argh
[09:44] <Lacrymology> argh
[09:44] <Lacrymology> ok
[09:44] <Lacrymology> now
[09:44] <Lacrymology> hello!
[09:44] <root__> how can I reinstall gdm and all its configuration?
[09:44] <Lacrymology> I want to pimp up my desktop, and I want some help with this... should I go to #kde?
[09:44] <SlimG2> |Dylan|: There might be something here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=292507
[09:45] <|Dylan|> thx!
[09:45] <Lacrymology> root__: don't log into irc as root, it's insecure
[09:45] <root__> i keep getting: gdmgreeter The accessibility registry was not found.
[09:45] <Lacrymology> root__: at the very least change your nick so we don't know
[09:46] <zombielion> ok i opened those links and i will look at them. i just have one more question will win programs work using wine completely and when it asked like in windows to install the program is that ok. how do i unistall it if i am done using it. i noticed in linux there isnt like a c: drive or anything or add remove all programs you know
[09:47] <SlimG2> !wine | zombielion
[09:47] <ubotu> zombielion: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:47] <cugel> There _is_ a c drive.
[09:49] <|Dylan|> SlimG2: how should i proceed in configuring my runit?  error log:
[09:49] <|Dylan|> Setting up runit (1.6.0-1) ...
[09:49] <|Dylan|> grep: /etc/inittab: No such file or directory
[09:49] <|Dylan|> grep: /etc/inittab: No such file or directory
[09:49] <|Dylan|> Adding SV inittab entry...
[09:49] <|Dylan|> cp: cannot stat `/etc/inittab': No such file or directory
[09:49] <zombielion> ok thank you for helping i will go and look at this stuff. i am just having problems migrating to linux. i dont have win any more i lost my cd and kubuntu is free and it looks somewhat easy enough
[09:49] <|Dylan|> dpkg: error processing runit (--configure):
[09:49] <|Dylan|>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[09:49] <|Dylan|> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:49] <|Dylan|>  runit
[09:49] <darkrift411> ok
[09:49] <darkrift411> i mae a group for my wife, and i added my self to her group
[09:50] <darkrift411> then i changed permissions on her home folder to be in her group, not users.... then i set it so that group can read and write
[09:50] <darkrift411> but i still cant do anything
[09:50] <chris_scummette> admin problems ^
[09:50] <zombielion> DaSkreech: i have one more questiong sorry will all those things i downloaded that iwll let me play divx and xvid right?
[09:51] <darkrift411> should i add myself to the group root
[09:51] <darkrift411> lol
[09:51] <darkrift411> or would taht be the same as logging in as root
[09:52] <SlimG2> !who |  zombielion
[09:52] <ubotu> zombielion: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[09:53] <zombielion> oh sorry
[09:53] <darkrift411> nvm
[09:53] <darkrift411> sudo konqueror worked :)
[09:53] <chris_scummette> You do not have sufficient access to write to /media/Maxtor/.directory.
[09:53] <chris_scummette> WTF
[09:54] <cugel> Maybe it's full?
[09:54] <chris_scummette> sudo konqeror for me too w<orked
[09:54] <chris_scummette> amzing
[09:55] <_4strO> !fdesu
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdesu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <zombielion> libxine1-ffmpeg, libmad0, libxine-extracodecs I installed these will they let me watch divx and xvid in kaffine or will i need vlc and how do i install that
[09:55] <_4strO> !kdesu
[09:55] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[09:55] <SlimG2> darkrift411: You could add yourself to the sudo group, then you won't have enter your password each time you run sudo or kdesu, but anyone stealing your account would also gain the same ability :P
[09:55] <crowbar> This gets me all the time.   I open a file to edit in /etc forgetting to use sudo so I can't save it.  Is there any way to save the file without quitting vi and entering with sudo?
[09:56] <basse> you can save under another name ofcourse
[09:56] <|Dylan|> SlimG2: im sorry to keep bugging you, but how should i proceed with my runit configure?  should i create inittab or modify the script (already have it open in kate), and what should i change the inittab lines to if i should change the script?
[09:56] <SlimG2> zombielion: If you have these three packages you won't need anything else afaik: w32codecs libdvdcss libxine-extracodecs
[09:56] <crowbar> I was hoping more of a privilege escalation somehow inside vim.  Saving ot my home directory and then copying over isn't so nice.
[09:58] <basse> crowbar: hmmh.. maybe complicated shell command from vim yes.. but i think it's best just to remember doing sudo :)
[09:58] <SlimG2> |Dylan|: I don't know anything about runit myself, just googeled an answer for you, don't be sorry for asking ;)
[09:58] <chris_scummette> whycant i place the icons like i want to on my desktop?
[09:58] <crowbar> basse: yeah yeah i know.   Woudl be nice for that 1  out of 10 times I open a file to be able to save it without exiting.  :)
[09:59] <basse> i've been there myself :)
[09:59] <|Dylan|> SlimG2: its strange that runit on from the ubuntu repo isnt configured correctly for my feisty...id assume i can touch inittab and it should still run the upstart system after reading inittab, but if it doesnt i could be in a bit of a jam.
[10:00] <SlimG2> |Dylan|: I still don't know anything about runit, try asking someone else
[10:01] <|Dylan|> hehe ok, sry
[10:01] <|Dylan|> does anyone else know?  :)
[10:01] <basse> crowbar: luckily i'm quite manic with doing save.. so i notice quite early :)
[10:01] <SlimG2> |Dylan|: Don't be sorry ;)
[10:01] <|Dylan|> SlimG2: sorry ;)
[10:01] <crowbar> basse: I get the most aggrevated when i open a file for a 1 character change and end up spending more time trying to figure out why the thing didn't quit than i did editting it.
[10:01] <|Dylan|> ^.6
[10:02] <basse> crowbar: i've said it here before, but i dont especially like the whole sudo thing at all.. my sons machine is running kubuntu, i myself run debian, because i like my root account
[10:03] <basse> i dont see any good side of having sudo ;) but, that's just me.
[10:03] <|Dylan|> basse: im sure you know this already, but just in case, you can use sudo passwd root to set up the root account
[10:03] <trpr> basse: i know they say not to do this, but if you want to enable root all you need to do is passwd the account
[10:04] <basse> |Dylan|: i know.. it's still little bit tricky at time under ubuntu/kubuntu.. though.
[10:04] <|Dylan|> basse: i suppose, yes
[10:04] <basse> yep. some of the things are covered more deeply. like "kdesu"
[10:05] <basse> hmh, bad word choices.. i meant they dont work like in default kde.
[10:12] <kevin|larson> im currently running of the kubuntu install disk, and my mouse isnt working
[10:12] <kevin|larson> has this happened to anyone?
[10:12] <cugel> At least your keyboard's working.
[10:12] <kevin|larson> im using the numpad but its getting very tiring
[10:13] <kevin|larson> i also was wondering if /dev is supposed to be empty, because i had wanted to make a backup of the desktop before i installed kubuntu
[10:14] <kevin|larson> and its dificult to do without device nodes
[10:16] <darkrift411> i got this cool wallpaper with a stormy bliss landscape with sun shining thru the clouds making the windows symbol on the grass.... i wish someone could change the windows symbol to either a penguin or the kubuntu symbol......
[10:16] <benbread> Hey i'm trying to install Kubuntu (feisty) on my rather troublesome laptop, but on hard drive format it errors - gparted says the disk is busy. does anyone know how i can fix this? :|
[10:16] <darkrift411> would look even better :)
[10:16] <darkrift411> thats odd
[10:17] <darkrift411> try fdisk from command line without anything runnign
[10:17] <kevin|larson> benbread: cfdisk too
[10:17] <darkrift411> unless you are resizing
[10:17] <darkrift411> in that case, i dont know :S
[10:17] <kevin|larson> -f ?
[10:18] <SlimG2> kevin|larson: What system are you running on?
[10:18] <jhutchins> benbread: You'll probably need the alternative install CD if you're going to format/partition manually.
[10:18] <benbread> darkrift411: I can format the whole disk, i'm running debian on here at the mo, but i'm switching to kubuntu mostly because i like it better and my other laptop runs it (though my music server runs debian :P)
[10:18] <darkrift411> so where is the problem occuring
[10:18] <benbread> jhutchins: is there any way i can install kubuntu without running as a live cd, it's really rather slow! :P
[10:18] <darkrift411> i didnt use it
[10:19] <darkrift411> in grub, i selected install
[10:19] <darkrift411> 2nd option i think
[10:19] <jhutchins> benbread: Yeah, the alternative CD will do that.
[10:19] <darkrift411> i just found out i can do console commands in xchat..... wow
[10:19] <t1g3r> hi all
[10:19] <kevin|larson> Slimg2 an x86 (amd xp)
[10:19] <benbread> jhutchins: Alternate cd it is, thanks everyone!
[10:20] <darkrift411> good luck
[10:20] <t1g3r> having troubles with a fresh kubuntu install
[10:20] <SlimG2> kevin|larson: laptop? desktop? make? modell?
[10:20] <t1g3r> acer 2420 travelmate laptop
[10:20] <kevin|larson> SlimG2: desktop, homemade
[10:20] <t1g3r> 1.7ghz 512mb no gfx card
[10:20] <darkrift411> i wonder why microsoft doesnt have an irc chat like this..... probably couldnt hire enough ppl to fix all of the problems ppl would run into
[10:21] <t1g3r> or they cudnt be bothered
[10:21] <darkrift411> lol
[10:21] <jhutchins> darkrift411: ##windows
[10:21] <darkrift411> ##windows
[10:21] <t1g3r> they wanna get revenue from ppl calling in techy call centres instead
[10:21] <darkrift411> ack
[10:21] <darkrift411> /join ##windows
[10:21] <darkrift411> wtf'
[10:21] <t1g3r> bah windows, just melted my laptop, had a dual boot system, just going all ubuntu now
[10:22] <darkrift411> thats funny
[10:22] <t1g3r> right now it only let me do a text based install tho, so im all in command line here on the lappy
[10:22] <t1g3r> so wondering whats the next step
[10:22] <darkrift411> i could have sent many ppl there if id known about it
[10:23] <t1g3r> any idea what is hould do if i run the option on the cd to check for defects and i get a bright red screen with errors on it?
[10:24] <darkrift411> darkrift411's Uptime: 13:24:37 up 6 days, 10:13,  2 users,  load average: 3.07, 3.00, 3.06
[10:24] <darkrift411> not bad for a laptop :)
[10:25] <xst> When I perform an ssh login to a local host on the lan (directly to the IP), the ssh client waits for several seconds before it shows me the password prompt. How can I fix this?
[10:25] <funkiwan> I'm having trouble with mdadm raid0 on my swap partition after upgrading to feisty. It's currently in "State : clean, Not Started" and I'm not sure how to start it
[10:25] <jhutchins> xst: How is the sshd running on the server?  As a daemon or via xinet?
[10:26] <jhutchins> t1g3r: Sounds like a bad CD.
[10:26] <gentoofan23> !windows
[10:26] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:26] <t1g3r> sigh
[10:26] <xst> jhutchins: it runs as sshd
[10:26] <t1g3r> took me a damn day to download the thing, im almost on dialup speed here
[10:26] <t1g3r>  :((
[10:26] <xst> jhutchins: and is started from /etc/init.d/
[10:26] <jhutchins> xst: Then it's most likely just a slow system generating the keys.
[10:27] <funkiwan> Can anyone help with an mdadm question?
[10:27] <xst> jhutchins: It is fast as lightning if I connect to a domain name, but IP-only on the LAN is slow.
[10:29] <ManiDhillon> hello
[10:29] <ManiDhillon> !apt-get update
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-get update - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <ManiDhillon> !adept
[10:35] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[10:35] <pvandewyngaerde> how do i install amarok 146 ?
[10:35] <jhutchins> xst: You'll need to delve into the inner workings of openssh to solve that one.
[10:35] <xst> jhutchins: It worked fine in edgy
[10:38] <darkrift411> i keep seeing all these widget like apps on ppls linux screenshots, but havent found what tey are
[10:38] <darkrift411> i saw soem good sys info ones and a weather one (almost like vista, but usefull and prob dont use 500mb of ram)
[10:39] <pvandewyngaerde> superkaramba
[10:39] <darkrift411> i c
[10:41] <vecina> How come kwin and network manager arent iun my syetem bar anymore? they seem to prefer being windows in my desktop
[10:42] <Ambientmstr> Can anyone help me get the borders around my windows? I added those addARGBLXVisuals" and the other codes to my xorg.conf, restarted x, but to no avail. Help please? Kubuntu Feisty user btw.
[10:43] <PhinnFort> will there be updated amarok packages available somewhere soon?
[10:43] <pvandewyngaerde> PhinnFort: im waiting too
[10:43] <PhinnFort> let's wait together, then;)
[10:45] <lsabalo> I join to the wait :-)
[10:45] <vm> quit
[10:45] <PhinnFort> there's probably a build-server busy somewhere compiling it right now as we speak
[10:46] <vm> quit
[10:46] <vm> Quit
[10:46] <PhinnFort> vm: try a /quit instead
[10:46] <PhinnFort> :P
[10:46] <Ambientmstr> Can anyone help me get the borders around my windows? I added those addARGBLXVisuals" and the other codes to my xorg.conf, restarted x, but to no avail. Help please? Kubuntu Feisty user btw.
[10:47] <PhinnFort> hehe
[10:47] <PhinnFort> Ambientmstr: Beryl?
[10:47] <PhinnFort> !beryl | Ambientmstr
[10:47] <ubotu> Ambientmstr: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:48] <Ambientmstr> I am in Ubuntu-effects and have been for 15 min before comin here
[10:48] <PhinnFort> argh... removed the hide menubar options
[10:48] <PhinnFort> Ambientmstr: well, don't use experimental software, then
[10:48] <Ambientmstr> It worked last time.
[10:49] <PhinnFort> Ambientmstr: you need to run a window manager to get borders on windows
[10:49] <PhinnFort> Ambientmstr: try running one
[10:49] <PhinnFort> like emerald, aquamarine or heliodor
[10:50] <Ambientmstr> It was running Emerald
[10:50] <PhinnFort> Ambientmstr: well, it doesn't seem to work, does it?;)
[10:50] <PhinnFort> Ambientmstr: try running "emerald" in a console
[10:51] <PhinnFort> see why it fails
[10:51] <bjwebb> hi does kubuntu have the Restricted Drivers Manager
[10:51] <Ambientmstr> emerald: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"
[10:52] <PhinnFort> Ambientmstr: try "emerald --replace" or something similar
[10:52] <Ambientmstr> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[10:52] <Ambientmstr>   Major opcode:  147
[10:52] <Ambientmstr>   Minor opcode:  3
[10:52] <Ambientmstr>   Resource id:  0x0
[10:52] <Ambientmstr> Failed to open device
[10:52] <Ambientmstr> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[10:52] <Ambientmstr>   Major opcode:  147
[10:52] <Ambientmstr>   Minor opcode:  3
[10:52] <Ambientmstr>   Resource id:  0x0
[10:52] <Ambientmstr> Failed to open device
[10:52] <chris_scummette> !french
[10:53] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:53] <PhinnFort> Ambientmstr: that's nothing to worry about
[10:53] <bjwebb> hello, can someone help?
[10:53] <Ambientmstr> If you insist.
[10:53] <PhinnFort> Ambientmstr: did you get stuff nwo?
[10:53] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: not if you don't tell us what the problem is
[10:53] <Ambientmstr> Nope, still borderless.
[10:53] <PhinnFort> :D
[10:53] <PhinnFort> Ambientmstr: try running aquamarine
[10:53] <Ambientmstr> Which is a pity. Cause everything else works like a charm.
[10:54] <bjwebb> well its freezing 3D acceleration
[10:54] <bjwebb> i think my cards semi-supported
[10:54] <bjwebb> so, does kubuntu have the Restricted Drivers Manager
[10:55] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: I don't think so, not in the same way as Ubuntu/Gnome, anyways
[10:55] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: what kind of card do you have?
[10:55] <bjwebb> Radeon
[10:55] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: ...
[10:55] <PhinnFort> new/old?
[10:56] <bjwebb> quite new
[10:56] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: install fglrx
[10:56] <PhinnFort> !find fglrx
[10:56] <ubotu> Found: fglrx-control, xorg-driver-fglrx, xorg-driver-fglrx-dev, fglrx-kernel-source
[10:56] <PhinnFort> !info xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:56] <ubotu> xorg-driver-fglrx: Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 7.1.0-8.34.8+<IP_ADDRESS>-16.28 (feisty), package size 5998 kB, installed size 17224 kB
[10:57] <bob_> talking about 3D acceleration, do you guys have an ETA of the nvidia-glx-new upgrade?
[10:57] <bob_> my card would not qork fine with the actual one
[10:57] <bob_> work*
[10:58] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: then run "kdesu dpkg-reconfigure -f kde xserver-xorg" (in ALT+F2)
[10:58] <bjwebb> kubuntu doesn't have that by default does it?
[10:58] <bob_> i needed to install the one from their website
[10:58] <bjwebb> how do i find out if it is already installed
[10:58] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: it's not legal to distribute with the kernel
[10:58] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: use adept manager
[10:58] <bjwebb> okay
[10:59] <Ambientmstr> PhinnFort: When I try aquamarine it says found not compatible windows manager, waiting...
[11:00] <PhinnFort> Ambientmstr: did you run aquamarine --replace?
[11:00] <Graham> 'lo
[11:00] <Ambientmstr> Yes
[11:00] <Ambientmstr> That gave me the failed to replace again
[11:01] <pvandewyngaerde> sudo ?
[11:01] <Misterfixit> Wow! There are a LOT of ppl using *buntu ...
[11:01] <aleksanteri> Misterfixit: and there are even more ppl out there
[11:02] <Misterfixit> I just finished changing over from Fedora
[11:02] <PhinnFort> Misterfixit: i think there's around a million or something?
[11:02] <Graham> Misterfixit: Something like that, a freakin lot.
[11:02] <Misterfixit> Started with the last RH and went all the way to Fedora 7.  Built this new box ... I really like this distro
[11:02] <PhinnFort> make that 8 million
[11:03] <PhinnFort> http://robitaille.wordpress.com/2006/12/30/ubuntu-now-has-over-8-millions-users/
[11:03] <PhinnFort> whoops, that was last year, and we're still growing;)
[11:04] <Misterfixit> I'm pretty impressed so far.  I only have had to drop down to root term a couple of times so far
[11:04] <PhinnFort> Misterfixit: when was that?
[11:04] <Ambientmstr> I envy your experience
[11:04] <PhinnFort> Misterfixit: I think there's somewhere in the wiki you can write down where you have to use the terminal, and some devs will look into it
[11:05] <Misterfixit> Let's see, when I was trying to install the NVIDIA driver for my GeForce 6200 Card.
[11:05] <PhinnFort> Misterfixit: what went wrong?
[11:06] <PhinnFort> Misterfixit: it shouldn't be harder than installing and configuring using the system settings configuration thingy
[11:06] <Misterfixit> I used the nvidia-glx-config enable line without any luck -- msg back that it didn't exit.  So, I tried a couple of other config things.  Still no luck on the nvidia card but I have great resolution anyway
[11:06] <eguzkia> hello someone can help with my nvidia driver?
[11:07] <eguzkia> i cannot install 3d driver
[11:07] <PhinnFort> !nvidia
[11:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:07] <Misterfixit> Oh, I remember now, Frostwire couldn't find the java package.  Same problem that Limewire had too ...
[11:07] <PhinnFort> !java | Misterfixit
[11:07] <ubotu> Misterfixit: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:07] <PhinnFort> :D
[11:08] <PhinnFort> *cough* http://spread.kde.org/ rebirthed*cough*
[11:08] <Misterfixit> Ubotu .. thanks for the pointers.  I figured it would be easier to go into the frostwire.sh script and just change the place where it was looking for java .... that worked (just like it did for Limewire)
[11:08] <eguzkia> i have problem to instnvia driver
[11:08] <eguzkia> someone here know how to install nia driver?
[11:08] <PhinnFort> Misterfixit: it's a bot;)
[11:08] <PhinnFort> eguzkia: follow the link provided to you;)
[11:09] <PhinnFort> !nvidia | eguzkia
[11:09] <ubotu> eguzkia: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> !botsnack
[11:09] <ubotu> Yum!  I prefer apt in #kde;)
[11:09] <Misterfixit> I know ...
[11:09] <Misterfixit> it missed "algorythim" because I didn't spell it right
[11:10] <PhinnFort> isn't that a nerdcore "band"?
[11:10] <PhinnFort> algorythms?
[11:10] <ardchoille> Misterfixit: Don't worry, I still have trouble remembering how to spell that word.
[11:10] <Misterfixit> Algorythm
[11:10] <nosrednaekim> I don't think there is a y
[11:10] <ardchoille> algorithm
[11:11] <Misterfixit> Well, I think that native English speakers always would want to place that "i" sound before the m and after the h
[11:11] <Misterfixit> Yeah, "i" ... dude!  what he said!
[11:11] <ardchoille> Misterfixit: Yeah
[11:11] <PhinnFort> f b
[11:11] <PhinnFort> i
[11:12] <Aattila> Hi! I' ve just tried to install skype but there was an error and now I get: "unable to lock administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" what should I do?
[11:12] <Misterfixit> OK, I am going back to work but I am glad to have found this channel and, of course, "my little friend" ubotu ... eh? Say Hello to My Little Friend!
[11:12] <PhinnFort> !dpkgfix
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpkgfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <PhinnFort> !aptfix
[11:12] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:12] <PhinnFort> !aptfix | Aattila
[11:12] <ubotu> Aattila: please see above
[11:12] <PhinnFort> !hi | Misterfixit
[11:12] <ubotu> Misterfixit: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:13] <Misterfixit> !Hello
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <PhinnFort> !help > Misterfixit
[11:13] <Misterfixit> Oops
[11:13] <PhinnFort> :D
[11:13] <Misterfixit> see you all later ...
[11:13] <PhinnFort> see you
[11:15] <Aattila> PhinnFort, ubotu: thank you!
[11:16] <PhinnFort> yw;)
[11:16] <PhinnFort> Aattila: ubotu is an automated bot, btw
[11:16] <thev> Hi.  I'm missing my Monitor & Display module.  Anyone know how I can install it?
[11:16] <PhinnFort> !info guidance-kde
[11:16] <ubotu> Package guidance-kde does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:17] <PhinnFort> !info kde-guidance | thev
[11:17] <ubotu> thev: kde-guidance: collection of KDE system administration tools for GNU/Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.0-0ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 956 kB, installed size 3884 kB
[11:17] <PhinnFort> I think that's it
[11:17] <thev> thanks, I'll try installing that
[11:17] <PhinnFort> you switched from normal ubuntu?
[11:18] <thev> hrmm... I don't think that's it -it's installed already
[11:19] <thev> yes.  Installed KDE on Ubuntu
[11:20] <PhinnFort> everything isn't installed as it should be when you do that for some weird reason :S
[11:21] <Pupeno> After moving my mails to Evolution and back to Kontact I have a lot of duplicated emails. Kontact's remove duplicated email worked for lots of them, but there are a lot with very small differences... like X-Status. Any ideas how to clean that up?
[11:21] <thev> yeah.  I noticed.  I think I will reinstall kubuntu straight up.
[11:21] <thev> ./home is on a different partition, so I should be able to save all my settings
[11:24] <antonio_> hey
[11:24] <antonio_> someone know how I can change the size of subtitles in Kaffeine?
[11:25] <PhinnFort> antonio_: looked in the settings thingy?
[11:25] <PhinnFort> should be under "subtitles"
[11:25] <antonio_> there isn't
[11:25] <antonio_> u can change only the file of subtitles
[11:25] <not-Timmay> question:     is it possible to use bluefish and work on files on a web server?
[11:25] <antonio_> not the size or character like in vlc
[11:26] <PhinnFort> not-Timmay: dunno, it's a gnome app isn't it?
[11:26] <PhinnFort> not-Timmay: Kate works perfectly
[11:26] <not-Timmay> kate makes it so i can edit php files on a remote server?
[11:27] <antonio_> so nobody knows thank u anyway
[11:27] <PhinnFort> antonio_: http://phinnfort.phil0d0x.com/stuff/screenshots/skjermbilde7.png
[11:27] <antonio_> I will install vlc :-(
[11:27] <PhinnFort> antonio_: it's right there in your fracking face;)
[11:27] <antonio_> thanks a lot
[11:27] <antonio_> I think I have to install xine-motoren or someting like that
[11:27] <PhinnFort> not-Timmay: Kate is a KDE based text editor, so you can edit files over whatever protocol there's a kio-slave for
[11:28] <PhinnFort> antonio_: what engine do you use?
[11:28] <antonio_> kaffeine-xine
[11:28] <PhinnFort> and you don't have the same options in the settings?
[11:28] <ldb> i am using nvidia twin view, and i would like to switch my primary display with my secondary display (my kde desktop is on my secondary display)
[11:29] <antonio_> but when I click on "xine-motoren" it doesn't work
[11:29] <antonio_> maybe I miss something
[11:29] <antonio_> thank u a lot
[11:30] <PhinnFort> antonio_: Settings -> Playback engine -> Kaffieine Xine?
[11:30] <antonio_> ok
[11:30] <antonio_> now it works
[11:30] <antonio_> thank u a lot
[11:31] <not-Timmay> PhinnFort: oh yea...duh kate....no no, i like using bluefish because it is a web page editor basically
[11:31] <antonio_> someting wrong on my hard disk maybe it's damaged
[11:31] <antonio_> so I have strange error about I/O when I works
[11:31] <antonio_> :-(
[11:31] <PhinnFort> not-Timmay: so is Kate, and a Python editor, and a C++-editor, and everything else i need
[11:31] <antonio_> thank u
[11:31] <PhinnFort> antonio_: can you run "dmesg | tail" in a console?
[11:31] <ldb> oh wait, nevermind, i just dragged the kde task bar to my other monitor, duh
[11:31] <PhinnFort> ldb: :P
[11:32] <PhinnFort> simplicity ftw
[11:32] <ldb> haha
[11:32] <ldb> problem solved
[11:32] <antonio_> Phinfort I did it
[11:33] <PhinnFort> antonio_: can you paste what it said into #flood ?
[11:33] <franco> yeah
[11:33] <antonio_> #flood
[11:33] <PhinnFort> yeah?
[11:33] <antonio_> what's flood?
[11:33] <PhinnFort> antonio_: it's a channel
[11:33] <PhinnFort> antonio_: on freenode, where you can paste texts, etc, so you don't flood other channels
[11:34] <antonio_> oh I tried a private message
[11:34] <antonio_> sorry
[11:34] <antonio_> :-(
[11:34] <ldb> are there any gui tools for setting up your /etc/fstab?
[11:35] <PhinnFort> ldb: looked in system settings?
[11:35] <bjwebb> okay, so i tried installing the frglx driver, but now ive lost my graphical display
[11:35] <PhinnFort> ldb: disks and filesystems?
[11:35] <ldb> im there now
[11:36] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: did you run that other command I gave you?
[11:36] <bjwebb> nope
[11:36] <PhinnFort> [22:58]  <PhinnFort> bjwebb: then run "kdesu dpkg-reconfigure -f kde xserver-xorg" (in ALT+F2)
[11:36] <antonio_> thank u PhinnFort don't worry I'm newbie on IRC :-) and linux too
[11:36] <bjwebb> i tried adding it through the kde settings manager
[11:36] <antonio_> bye and thank u
[11:36] <ldb> basically just wanna add a cifs network share
[11:36] <Goliath23> hi. are there kubuntu packages for amarok 1.4.6 yet?
[11:36] <bjwebb> changed the "free" settings on my graphic card to propeitary
[11:36] <PhinnFort> Goliath23: no
[11:37] <bjwebb> what can i do now?
[11:37] <PhinnFort> Goliath23: watch kubuntu.org
[11:37] <ldb> oh wow, this is nice
[11:37] <PhinnFort> !xorg
[11:37] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:37] <Goliath23> PhinnFort: ok, compile then :)
[11:37] <PhinnFort> Goliath23: or wait for the poor packagers to compile it;)
[11:37] <Goliath23> hehe
[11:37] <not-Timmay> PhinnFort: but bluefish has pretty colors LOL
[11:37] <PhinnFort> not-Timmay: so has Kate
[11:37] <PhinnFort> not-Timmay: and auto-completion, built-in console, etc.
[11:37] <bjwebb> its running, but my screen won't display it
[11:38] <Nuked> I used qt4-qtconfig to set a qt theme, But I want to set it back to what it was, and I dont see the option there to do it. any help would be appreciated.
[11:38] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: do you see anything?
[11:38] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: do you get a console to log into?
[11:38] <bjwebb> on ctrl+alt+f7 i get a message from my monitor
[11:38] <bjwebb> "cannot display this video mode"
[11:39] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: is it "graphical"?
[11:39] <bjwebb> i used ctrl+alt to find my terminal, which apparently still work, propably because they're not as advanced
[11:39] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: they don't use the ATI drivers
[11:39] <bjwebb> thought it was like that
[11:39] <bjwebb> but the message is from my monitor
[11:39] <bjwebb> i don't actually recieve anything from linux
[11:39] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: log into a text-terminal, and then do "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf ."
[11:40] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: then run "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[11:40] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: should auto-detect necessary settings
[11:40] <Goliath23> huh, did adept change back to the line-based "manage sources" or is my adept outdated? where is this cute dialog that seperated "third party" sources from official ones?
[11:40] <PhinnFort> then run the other command
[11:40] <bjwebb> okay so ive done that
[11:41] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: kdm restared too?
[11:41] <bjwebb> not yet
[11:41] <bjwebb> it has now
[11:41] <bjwebb> thanks
[11:42] <Nuked> no idea how to revert to original qt theme?
[11:42] <bjwebb> so has that reverted to the original drivers?
[11:42] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: but to use the new drivers, run "kdesu dpkg-reconfigure -f kde xserver-xorg" (in ALT+F2)
[11:42] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: yes, temporarily
[11:42] <PhinnFort> bjwebb: you currently run without a config file, so it autodetects all settings everytime it starts
[11:43] <bjwebb> ok
[11:43] <bjwebb> could you repeat that command in a sec once i start graphical IRC
[11:43] <PhinnFort> yup
[11:44] <bjwebb_> hi
[11:44] <PhinnFort> kdesu "dpkg-reconfigure -f kde xserver-xorg"
[11:44] <bjwebb_> thanks
[11:45] <PhinnFort> hit alt+f2 and paste it in
[11:45] <not-Timmay> PhinnFort: hey did you know kate works just like bluefish?!?! why didn't you just tell me that in the first place? *.* hehe thanks :)
[11:45] <PhinnFort> and hit enter
[11:45] <bjwebb_> my keyboards screwed up, but i guess thats my fault
[11:45] <PhinnFort> not-Timmay: yw;)
[11:45] <PhinnFort> not-Timmay: I've never tried BlueFish before
[11:45] <PhinnFort> bjwebb_: that's because you don't have a config file to set it in
[11:45] <bjwebb_> i know
[11:45] <not-Timmay> it's pretty nice, but basically the same as kate when you configure it
[11:45] <bjwebb_> because i mucked it up in the first place
[11:46] <bjwebb_> does that command need the quotes in?
[11:46] <PhinnFort> yeah
[11:46] <not-Timmay> is there a way to get the line numbers on the left of the text?
[11:46] <PhinnFort> not-Timmay: f9, i think
[11:46] <PhinnFort> no, f11
[11:46] <not-Timmay> awesome!
[11:47] <PhinnFort> ;)
[11:47] <not-Timmay> so how do i work on the remote file?
[11:47] <PhinnFort> not-Timmay: select open file, and type in the url
[11:47] <PhinnFort> ftp://servernameblalba
[11:48] <PhinnFort> alternatively, ftp://username@server
[11:48] <PhinnFort> or, if you don't have ftp, but only ssh, try fish://server
[11:48] <bjwebb_> it asks me to select a package to reconfigure
[11:48] <PhinnFort> bjwebb_: you copied the whole command?
[11:48] <bjwebb_> yes
[11:48] <PhinnFort> bjwebb_: select the xserver-xorg package if you find it
[11:49] <[Al] chemist_ex> i have my panel on autohide, periodically is doesn't come back.  Very annoying.  Anyone know a way to reset? So annoying.
[11:49] <jontec> http://pastie.caboo.se/72490, I need to know what packages correspond to these shared libraries
[11:49] <bjwebb_> it won't let me select anything
[11:49] <Alonea> why is wpa so screwy on here? My internet times out all the time.
[11:50] <PhinnFort> bjwebb_: Hit alt+f2 typed in >> kdesu "dpkg-reconfigure -f kde xserver-xorg" <<, hit enter?
[11:50] <bjwebb_> ive got it up now
[11:51] <PhinnFort> select the fglrx driver
[11:51] <PhinnFort> from the drop-down list
[11:51] <bjwebb_> oaky
[11:51] <bjwebb_> do i need to change the identifier?
[11:51] <PhinnFort> no
[11:52] <bjwebb_> do i need to specify amount of memory?
[11:52] <PhinnFort> nope
[11:52] <PhinnFort> the defaults are normally okay
[11:53] <bjwebb_> should i use framebuffer?
[11:53] <PhinnFort> just keep the default
[11:53] <PhinnFort> bjwebb_: afterwords, when you reboot and everything works, you can finetune it with "fglrx-control"
[11:53] <PhinnFort> !info fglrx-control | bjwebb_
[11:53] <ubotu> bjwebb_: fglrx-control: Control panel for the ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 8.34.8+<IP_ADDRESS>-16.28 (feisty), package size 75 kB, installed size 344 kB
[11:55] <jontec> realplayer is a pain in the... well, I'm on amd64. I just installed the .bin file provided by www.real.com/linux. It installed fine, but I can't get it to actually open
[11:55] <PhinnFort> jontec: don't use it then
[11:55] <jontec> PhinnFort: VLC can't play it with codecs, etc. there's no alternative, I've tried.
[11:55] <PhinnFort> bjwebb_: I'll go to bed now, but you should be fine from now on
[11:55] <PhinnFort> jontec: realplayer should install codecs that vlc et al can use
[11:56] <PhinnFort> at least mplayer
[11:56] <UbunutuNuubu> Anyone want to hold someones hand on their very first walk in a Linux based OS?
[11:57] <eagles0513875> there si a serious flaw in gaim
[11:57] <UbunutuNuubu> Well, not hold hand per se, just answer one very noobish question
[11:57] <jontec> PhinnFort: no dice. mplayer and vlc both work just as before
[11:57] <eagles0513875> is there a gaim channel
[11:58] <jontec> I need help installing realplayer. I've installed the .bin file, but realplayer won't open. (amd64 + feisty)
[11:58] <Minataku> eagles0513875: There isn't even a GAIM anymore
[11:58] <Minataku> You'll have to talk to the Ubuntu maintainers of it
[11:58] <jontec> UbunutuNuubu: ask the question and someone might answer :D
[11:58] <Minataku> It'll have to be patched
[11:58] <eagles0513875> ok
[11:59] <eagles0513875> where can i talk to the maintainers
[11:59] <UbunutuNuubu> thankysai
[11:59] <eagles0513875> !pidgin
[11:59] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[11:59] <Minataku> Best bet in that case is either #ubuntu or their email
[11:59] <Minataku> eagles0513875: Apparantly, adding Pidgin to Feisty would break everything
[11:59] <UbunutuNuubu> I'm booting off of the CD, is there anyway I can try out compiz before an install?
[11:59] <Minataku> Such is the price of simplicity
[12:00] <eagles0513875> really how so
[12:00] <Minataku> eagles0513875: I dunno
[12:00] <Minataku> I've heard it has some major change in it
[12:01] <Minataku> And for distros designed to "just work", major changes are bad and therefore not made mid-release
[12:01] <Minataku> Which is why you're stuck waiting for gutsy or trying to install it yourself or whatever
[12:01] <Minataku> I don't use any IM crap so I don't know
[12:02] <eagles0513875> i can download the pidgin source code u still thik it will break everything
[12:03] <Minataku> eagles0513875: I don't know anything about the whole mess
[12:03] <eagles0513875> ok lol
[12:03] <Minataku> Sorry X3
[12:03] <eagles0513875> ill leave these questions for the pidgin channel lol
[12:03] <eagles0513875> its ok dude
[12:03] <Minataku> ^^
[12:03] <UbunutuNuubu> Is there anything I could do while booted off of the Kubuntu CD that would break my Windows installation?
[12:04] <Minataku> UbunutuNuubu: Yes
[12:04] <eagles0513875> min fyi i asked in that channel and they said the source code would work fine
[12:04] <Minataku> But you'd have to explicitly type them in
[12:04] <Alonea_> how do you get rid of your ghost on irc?
[12:04] <Minataku> eagles0513875: Worth a shot
[12:04] <Minataku> You'll need all the build tools, though
[12:04] <Minataku> !compile
[12:04] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:04] <UbunutuNuubu> Minataku: Installing relevant pakages for Compiz.... will that harm anything?
[12:05] <Minataku> UbunutuNuubu: No
[12:05] <UbunutuNuubu> Minataku: Thank you ^-^
[12:05] <Minataku> UbunutuNuubu: Normal use of the LiveCD won't break anything
[12:05] <Minataku> You CAN break things with it, but you have to want to
[12:05] <Minataku> If you don't want to, then you won't. :3
[12:06] <UbunutuNuubu> Minataku: Okay, good! I know nothing of how to use the terminal... so was a little worried. I'm excited to learn all of this.
[12:06] <Minataku> UbunutuNuubu: Good to hear
[12:06] <Minataku> Hopefully someday in the future you'll be tearing down that Windows installation
[12:06] <Minataku> :D
[12:07] <UbunutuNuubu> That's the plan!! I am SICK of it
[12:07] <Minataku> Heh, so was I. :3
[12:07] <Minataku> For example, this:
[12:07] <Minataku>  18:06:16 up 102 days, 13:32,  6 users,  load average: 0.13, 0.12, 0.10
[12:07] <Minataku> Not possible in Windows at all
[12:07] <UbunutuNuubu> LOL
[12:07] <UbunutuNuubu> Any sites you could recommend so I could read up on the terminal, and pretty much the basics of how a Linux based OS is operated?
[12:08] <Minataku> Still running as smooth and stable as she was when the uptime was 0:01
[12:08] <Alonea> if anyone had answered any of my questions earlier, I didn't get them. I had to restart so I could switch to wired (dunno why I have to restart to do that, but I do)
[12:08] <Minataku> !cli
[12:08] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:08] <Minataku> There ya go, that should give you the basics
[12:08] <Minataku> After that, just Google around some
[12:08] <Minataku> Also remember to read the manual and info pages
[12:08] <UbunutuNuubu> Thanks a bunch everyone ^^
[12:08] <Minataku> Linux is full of online help resources
[12:08] <Minataku> Online as in on your system
[12:09] <Minataku> Rather, online as in not printed
[12:09] <omega> Hi.
[12:09] <omega> I just installed Kubuntu.
[12:09] <UbunutuNuubu> I've noticed, heh. And unlike in XP, help actually works rather than crashing the system....
[12:09] <Minataku> Though there are internet help resources too, of course. :3
[12:09] <Minataku> UbunutuNuubu: Indeed
[12:09] <omega> How do I turn off the bouncing icon that trails my cursor every time I launch something?
[12:09] <omega> I can't find it in the System Settings.
[12:09] <Minataku> omega: It should be in there somewhere
[12:10] <ldb> wow, im impressed how easy it was to add mp3 support to amarok in kubuntu
[12:10] <Minataku> Or someplace else system-related
[12:10] <Minataku> Sorry, I'm not sure
[12:10] <Minataku> I don't use KDE... or Kubuntu for that matter
[12:10] <Minataku> I just help out here for Linux-based issues
[12:10] <Alonea> ok, so, why is wpa so messed up, is there any defragging apps for harddrives of most types and file systems, and why do you have to restart your computer to switch to a wired connection?
[12:11] <Minataku> WPA devices use encrypted firmwares for no good reason plus closed-source drivers, Linux filesystems don't need defragging for all technical purposes, and you shouldn't have to
[12:11] <Minataku> In that order
[12:12] <UbunutuNuubu> "Don't need defragging" *falls down with glee*
[12:13] <Minataku> It will take longer than the life of your computer for the fragmentation of a Linux filesystem to reach the level of a Windows filesystem
[12:13] <Alonea> Minataku: well, its really my ntfs drive that needs it..


[16:45] <aydin> hi
[19:13] <lespecnaz> hi, guys, please give a tip. i update the kernel and initramfs on filesystem.squashfs and casper folder of a livecd. all perfect. but, after i receive ubiquity fault during installation, like "An attempt to configure apt to install additional ... etc". all said to remove the file 40cdrom, and this work. but, how to update the kernel without this ugly hack?


[02:48] <cmaloney> God dammit.
[02:48] <cmaloney> The one night that I decide to not head on out. :)
[02:48] <cmaloney> lmorchard: Yeah, we're still meeting. :)
[02:49] <cmaloney> Was just tired this evening and rick_h_ wasn't heading out so I decided to skip
[12:12] <cmaloney> Morning
[12:16] <rick_h_> party
[12:30] <cmaloney> So it is said
[14:07] <jrwren> what is so good about it?
[14:09] <cmaloney> It's one more day that the universe hasn't decided to smite us
[14:09] <cmaloney> I think that's a good start
[15:05] <cmaloney> I <3 Detroit
[15:05] <cmaloney> They've scheduled Rush on June 15th (a Monday)
[15:05] <cmaloney> And they'll fill the place
[15:05] <cmaloney> because Detroit is the home of Rock and Roll
[15:06] <cmaloney> 14th rather
[15:06] <cmaloney> which is a Sunday
[15:07] <cmaloney> Actually all of these dates are kind of wonky
[21:31] <jcastro> smoser, around?


[01:51] <elky> ranking?
[01:51] <elky> this guy is odd
[01:52] <ldunn> Corporal Bazhang
[01:54] <elky> Lieutenant ldunn
[01:54] <ldunn> General Elky
[01:54] <bazhang> yep
[01:54] <elky> Woo, I get to be general!
[02:05] <Jordan_U> I'm happy being specific.
[02:05] <elky> Heh
[02:06] <elky> Wouldn't that make you a private function?
[02:06] <Jordan_U> elky: No, I'm a critical part of the public API. Just a very specific part.
[02:07] <elky> heh
[02:07] <Jordan_U> And the fact that I only now got the pun means I need more sleep.
[02:07] <elky> lol
[12:15] <LjL> monny: troll? yes/maybe/probably/definitely
[12:17] <bazhang> 2.17 makes me suspect "ultimate" ubuntu
[12:17] <bioterror> http://ultimateedition.info/ you mean this? :D
[12:17] <bioterror> oh dear mother gaia
[12:17] <bioterror> please
[12:17] <bioterror> wash my eyes
[12:17] <bioterror> bleach them!
[12:19] <bazhang> < troll detected >
[12:20] <LjL> bazhang: joined -ru now
[12:20] <bazhang> LjL, yep, and he's from .lt  (lithuania) I'd guess
[12:20] <LjL> bazhang: asked the same stuff in ##windows now too
[12:40] <html> hello?
[12:40] <ikonia> html: hi
[12:41] <ikonia> html: what are you doing with the bot ?
[12:41] <ikonia> why are you typing the same command over and over ?
[12:41] <html> why am i ban?
[12:41] <html> well i was tryin to get help for the last 3 hrs
[12:41] <html> so i remeber the bot
[12:41] <ikonia> you're not banned, I've forwarded you to this channel to "again" ask you to think about what you are doing in #ubuntu
[12:41] <ikonia> html: ok - so did !html sound work for you
[12:41] <ikonia> no - it didn't
[12:41] <ikonia> so why did you keep typing the same thing over and over
[12:42] <ikonia> if you don't know how to use the bot - just ask
[12:42] <ikonia> tons of people will help you
[12:42] <html> i didnt if you look i spelled it wrong.
[12:42] <ikonia> but just throwing random things at it will get you nowhere
[12:42] <html> ok  i will
[12:42] <html> i mean , i will ask
[12:42] <ikonia> doing !html will get you info on "html" - not sound cards
[12:42] <ikonia> the syntax is!topic | user
[12:42] <ikonia> eg: !kernel | ikonia
[12:43] <ikonia> (if I want to know about the kernel"
[12:43] <ikonia> )
[12:43] <ikonia> so your query would be !sound | html
[12:43] <ikonia> do you understand ?
[12:43] <ikonia> or !audio | html
[12:43] <ikonia> something like that
[12:43] <html> im trying to get the bot in an pm so i can ask there
[12:44] <ikonia> ok - so "/message ubottu sound
[12:44] <ikonia> "
[12:44] <ikonia> or /msg ubottu audio
[12:44] <ikonia> or !audio > html
[12:44] <ikonia> this will get the bot to send you a pm with information
[12:44] <ikonia> do you understand ?
[12:45] <html> ok, im trying to learn to channel bot comands . and i looked up the list.. so i got most of them but it sucks the my spelling is wacky
[12:45] <ikonia> no
[12:45] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with spelling
[12:45] <ikonia> I've just explained how you where using the bot wrong, and it was not your spelling
[12:46] <html> ok
[12:46] <ikonia> so you understand how to use the bot ?
[12:46] <ikonia> or at least understood what I've explained to you ?
[12:46] <html> yes, if i forget i just google it
[12:46] <ikonia> no
[12:47] <ikonia> ok - if I was to ask you please get info on "apache" how would you ask the bot ?
[12:48] <html> ahh ??   htlm | apacke
[12:48] <ikonia> no
[12:48] <ikonia> I've explained it less than 60 seconds ago
[12:48] <ikonia> it would be !apache | html
[12:48] <ikonia> the synatax is !query | user
[12:48] <ikonia> so !apache | html
[12:48] <html> so the name last?
[12:48] <ikonia> yes
[12:48] <html> oh..
[12:48] <ikonia> the query and then the user you want to have the information
[12:49] <html> ok
[12:49] <html> now i get it
[12:49] <ikonia> do you understand now ?
[12:49] <ikonia> ok - so if I wanted you to get the bot to tell LJL about mysql - how would you use the bot ?
[12:50] <html> !ubnutu-bot | html
[12:51] <html> !mysql | LJL
[12:51] <ikonia> great, well done
[12:51] <Tm_T> (:
[12:51] <ikonia> so please try to keep how to use it in mind when using the bot in #ubuntu
[12:51] <ikonia> you're welcome to leave this channel and re-join #ubuntu
[12:51] <Tm_T> in doubt, /msg ubottu
[12:52] <html> ok sorry for the trouble
[12:52] <html>  /msg ubottu
[12:53] <ikonia> it's not a problem
[13:06] <html> ok
[13:06] <html> thanks for lifting the ban
[13:09] <bazhang> he was asking the exact same questions yesterday, and got the same answers
 can i remove nepomuk scamware entirely?
[13:09] <ikonia> I know, that's why I forwarded him here as enough
[13:09] <ikonia> ooh the jdhfr user
[13:10] <bazhang> it's not scamware
[13:18] <Tm_T> one can remove it, but it has consequences
 I cannot install an software i own on gnu hurd linux ubuntu 11.10 oneiric. I got original software
[15:33] <bazhang> that has to be a typo
[15:33] <bazhang> "gnu hurd" ?
[15:36] <AlanBell> heh, I don't think we support that kernel
[15:36] <AlanBell> or microkernel
 Oki trolling end cheers
[15:44] <bazhang> what a surprise!
[15:44] <Pici> I'm surprised you let him continue for so long.
[15:45] <bazhang> better to resolve than kb imo. he was not terribly offensive or anything
[20:03] <Myrtti> whazzup?
[20:03] <Wug> ok, so I was wondering if I could bring a bot to #ubuntu
[20:04] <Wug> its crashing if I make it join large channels and I need a large channel or 2
[20:04] <Wug> it wont be speaking, just join/part/quit
[20:04] <Myrtti> depends on what it does and what you use it for
[20:04] <Wug> it will probably only be there once or twice
[20:04] <Wug> its a general channel management bot that I use on another network
[20:05] <Wug> and it has a bad habit of segment faulting when netsplits happen because of the traffic bursts
[20:05] <Pici> For the most part, as long as it doesn't respond to anyone, or talk at all, it should be fine.
[20:06] <mneptok> i would say you're welcome to test it, as long as this client stays in this channel during tests. no more than 10m at a time, no more than once per hour. during the 10m connect it multiple times if need be.
[20:06] <mneptok> basically, if we know what's going on, and it's not all day, i think that's cool.
[20:06] <Wug> k.
[20:06] <Wug> yeah its probably only going to only need 2 or 3 times to isolate the problem
[20:07] <mneptok> if things go sideways you're here and available. that's nice.
[20:23] <Wug> I'll be starting the bot in a minute
[20:24] <pangolin> what is the bots nick?
[20:24] <Wug> wugbot
[20:24] <Wug> it has a nickserv account
[20:24] <pangolin> thank you
[20:25] <Wug> I'll set it +D too
[20:35] <Wug> alright, its online
[20:38] <Wug> joining...
[20:40] <Wug> doesnt seem to have died.  took a lot of traffic though
[20:40] <Wug> I'll try again later
[20:42] <Myrtti> feel free to rejoin this channel when you do
[20:42] <Myrtti> if you'll do it like tomorrow
[20:45] <Wug> ok
[21:03] <Myrtti> could someone /cycle #ubuntu?
[21:03] <Myrtti> [22:57] < enchilado !> Guest99180 is sending auto PM spam
[21:03] <Myrtti> I couldn't replicate
[21:04] <LjL> me neither
[21:04] <LjL> although i know enchilado and i doubt he's lying
[21:04] <pangolin> nothing
[21:05] <pangolin> we often are put on np spam list
[21:05] <pangolin> no*
[21:06] <marienz> if it's automated others would've received it by now, no?
[21:06] <pangolin> I feel left out
[21:06] <marienz> unless he's only just now turned it on
[21:06] <Myrtti> pangolin: me too!
[21:29] <Myrtti> and gone
[21:30] <Myrtti> thank you for participating in our weekly draw of spot the spambot
[21:30] <Myrtti> prizes (virtual cookies) are distributed over --> there.
[21:30] <Myrtti> everyone can have one.
[22:50] <Jordan_U> Yea, that one was my fault. I asked how to remove it at the time but got no response and wasn't able to figure it out myself.
[22:54] <pangolin> !phcoder2


[08:51] <schopin> I have src:rustc blocked in -proposed due to "old binaries left" from the previous version. Is there something I can do for myself in that case, or should I just ping the AA in #-release to remove the old binaries?
[08:52] <schopin> AFAIK there shouldn't be any rdeps on the obsolete package.
[16:21] <zhsj> LocutusOfBorg: i see you merged dpkg 1.21.19, which includes my fix in upstream. you seem to miss cleaning up one small hunk. in scripts/Dpkg/Vendor/Ubuntu.pm %default_feature var is not used anymore, can be removed. (doesn't cause any problem, could be queue in your next upload)
[16:23] <zhsj> and for the changelog, why there are still 3 items for lto? i think we only have lto-disabled-list which is not in upstream?
[16:29] <LocutusOfBorg> yep
[16:29] <LocutusOfBorg> will maybe reupload now, or in a ppa
[16:36] <LocutusOfBorg> zhsj, please have a look at 1.21.19ubuntu2
[16:40] <zhsj> LocutusOfBorg: yay, you're really quick
[16:40] <LocutusOfBorg> :)
[17:08] <MacSlow> Greetings everybody!
[17:15] <MacSlow> re
[17:46] <mdeslaur> Skuggen: hi! I think coreycb provided the info you needed in the bug...has there been any progress today?
[17:56] <mdeslaur> Skuggen: is there a public oracle bug for this issue?
[19:22] <coreycb> mdeslaur: can you remind me what the revert error was for downgrading from 8.0.32 to 8.0.31? it seems that people are working around this by downgrading so maybe that is the better approach here since everything is blocked anyways.
[19:22] <mdeslaur> coreycb: we can't revert https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-8.0/+bug/2003835/comments/23
[19:22] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2003835 in mysql-8.0 (Ubuntu Lunar) "pymysql.err.OperationalError: caching sha2: Unknown packet for public key: b'-'" [Critical, Confirmed]
[19:23] <mdeslaur> coreycb: people can revert the mysql-router package, that works
[19:23] <coreycb> mdeslaur: is that a test we can skip?
[19:24] <mdeslaur> I don't know if there are actual changes that are made to the db when you upgrade or not
[19:25] <coreycb> mdeslaur: ok so that is actually an error on start of mysqld service I assume
[19:25] <mdeslaur> coreycb: yes, it gives that error for each database you have (I only put one in the bug)
[19:27] <coreycb> ok
[20:58] <arraybolt3> Well the log bot just came back so something good may have happened.
[21:06] <coreycb> mdeslaur: Skuggen: I was thinking of reverting any new patches in 8.0.32 that hit the router directory but there are 91 patches. I can't think of any other options.
[21:12] <eest> arraybolt3: btw, regarding the WWN-disk stuff, it turns out there is a patch in the works: https://code.launchpad.net/~mwhudson/curtin/+git/curtin/+merge/415700
[21:17] <Skuggen> coreycb: It's a pain, but it should still be doable even though there are a lot of them?
[21:18] <coreycb> Skuggen: maybe.. i'm looking through them to see if there is shared code with other parts of mysql
[21:24] <Skuggen> I'll float the idea upstream, too. If this becomes more drawn-out to figure out and fix, maybe we can narrow it down to fewer changes (and also get more info on whether they're independent of server code)
[21:27] <arraybolt3> eest: Oh, very nice!
[21:37] <coreycb> Skuggen: yes I'd be interested in how independent the code in the router directory is. thank you.


[02:21] <johnjohn101> 11.04 will have what kernel,   what gnome?
[02:23] <virtuald> johnjohn101: i think that will be decided at the developer summit
[02:23] <johnjohn101> is that this week?
[02:24] <virtuald> next week (see topic)
[02:26] <johnjohn101> i'm loving 10.10, so kudos
[02:44]  * psusi makes a snapshot, hits dist-upgrade, and waits with his finger on the revert button
[03:13] <psusi> ok, that was cool.... upgraded to natty, checked it out, reverted the snapshot, and rebooted back to maverick
[21:11] <javatexan> I am having trouble connecting to wireless WPA2Enterprize, PEAP, Mschamp2.  When I choose ignore the CA certificate, it spins but never actually connects.  I think it did work in 10.04, but not in 10.10
[21:12] <javatexan> i talked to the admin of that system and they do not have a CA cert.  in windows, it asks to okay the local cert
[21:14] <javatexan> sorry
[22:08] <BUGabundo> guud evening
[22:09] <gnomefreak> hello


[02:24] <evand> xivulon: AIUI, lupin-casper just needs to become a dep of ubiquity.
[02:24] <evand> not sure on where the fuse work stands
[12:56] <cjwatson> xivulon: fuse should be done already; I need to write a main inclusion report for lupin
[12:56] <cjwatson> evand: not certain, run it by pkl to see if he cares
[12:57] <cjwatson> either way, not our problem
[01:19] <CIA-18> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2206 ubiquity/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
[01:19] <CIA-18> ubiquity: * If 'automatic-ubiquity' is on the kernel command line, start Ubiquity in
[01:19] <CIA-18> ubiquity:  its own X session.
[01:34] <xivulon> cjwatson, looking forward to that to test it fully.
[01:55] <CIA-18> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2207 ubiquity/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
[01:55] <CIA-18> ubiquity: * Just call 'reboot' rather than gdm/kdm-specific reboot methods if
[01:55] <CIA-18> ubiquity:  DESKTOP_SESSION isn't set in the environment.
[01:58] <CIA-18> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2207 ubiquity/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
[01:58] <CIA-18> ubiquity: * Just call 'reboot' rather than gdm/kdm-specific reboot methods if
[01:58] <CIA-18> ubiquity:  DESKTOP_SESSION isn't set in the environment.
[01:58] <CIA-18> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2207 ubiquity/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
[01:58] <CIA-18> ubiquity: * Just call 'reboot' rather than gdm/kdm-specific reboot methods if
[01:58] <CIA-18> ubiquity:  DESKTOP_SESSION isn't set in the environment.
[01:59] <cjwatson> (argh silly cia)
[02:08] <CIA-18> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2208 ubiquity/debian/changelog: credit ago for prototype
[02:46] <CIA-18> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2209 ubiquity/bin/ubiquity-dm: run gnome-settings-daemon so that we use the normal theme
[02:57] <evand> cjwatson: will do
[03:11] <CIA-18> oem-config: cjwatson * r323 oem-config/ (debian/changelog oem-config-dm): * Run gnome-settings-daemon so that we use the normal theme (LP: #23899).
[03:18] <CIA-18> oem-config: cjwatson * r324 oem-config/debian/control: depend on gnome-control-center for gnome-settings-daemon
[03:20] <CIA-18> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2210 ubiquity/debian/control: extra dependencies for ubiquity-dm: metacity and gnome-control-center for -gtk, kwin for -kde
[03:32] <CIA-18> oem-config: cjwatson * r325 oem-config/ (debian/changelog oem-config-prepare):
[03:32] <CIA-18> oem-config: * Use zenity or kdialog if available to display oem-config-prepare's
[03:32] <CIA-18> oem-config:  acknowledgement message (LP: #131309).
[03:37] <CIA-18> oem-config: cjwatson * r326 oem-config/ (8 files in 5 dirs): bump to 1.19
[03:41] <CIA-18> oem-config: cjwatson * r327 oem-config/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.19
[04:11] <evand> language packs disappear from apt.cache.Cache() only inside Ubiquity.  hrm.
[04:42] <superm1> cjwatson, would you consider adding me to ~ubuntu-installer so you and evand don't have to regularly merge any mythbuntu changes?  If I have any changes that extend outside of the mythbuntu source files, I can do them in a sep branch and have them reviewed by you guys, otherwise I can commit the mythbuntu changes directly?
[05:17] <cjwatson> superm1: are you prepared to cope with the volume of mail due to getting all ubiquity bug reports?
[05:17] <superm1> cjwatson, that's what t-bird filters are for :)
[05:17] <cjwatson> you should set up mail filtering if you haven't already
[05:17] <cjwatson> ok
[05:18] <superm1> and that would certainly help to weed out the ones that are mythbuntu bound
[05:18] <cjwatson> superm1: added you
[05:18] <superm1> thx cjwatson
[05:19] <superm1> i'll merge my pending changes then :)
[05:19] <cjwatson> feel free to commit mythbuntu stuff directly; for other things you may want to get review if they're invasive
[05:19] <superm1> yea that's what i was thinking
[05:23] <cjwatson> remember to update cia configuration if you switch branches
[05:59] <evand> congratulations superm1
[05:59] <superm1> thx evand :)
[06:00] <superm1> this will make working on things a bit easier
[06:00] <CIA-18> ubiquity: superm1 * r2211 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/mythbuntu/mythbuntu_install.py): Make sure errno errors can be reported properly in mythbuntu_install.py
[06:01] <superm1> what days at UDS was ubiquity going to be a topic for discussion?
[06:01] <superm1> you guys know offhand?
[06:02] <evand> no idea, the schedule hasn't been made yet afaik
[06:02] <superm1> well i got an invite out there, but i can't stay for the whole thing, so i'd like to plan around the discussion i'll want to be at :)
[06:03] <evand> hrm, cjwatson will have a much better idea of how to determine what days you should come for.
[06:03] <evand> as I imagine he's one of the three people drafting the schedule
[06:04] <superm1> yeah.  well i've got two weeks to return info on what days i'm going to attend so they can purchase airfare and such
[06:04] <superm1> so i'll keep a look out for the info
[06:06] <cjwatson> we're dividing the summit into an initial few days which are primarily about contacts with upstreams, and a later phase which is much more for the Ubuntu development community
[06:06] <cjwatson> I think you'd be more useful in the second half
[06:06] <cjwatson> I don't have anything more specific than that yet though
[06:06] <superm1> very good, that's the half i'm more likely to be able to make
[06:19] <xivulon> same thing here, I'he recieved the invitation and I'd like to come, but I am mostly interessed in installer-related meetings (wubi/ubiquity)
[11:48] <xivulon> cjwatson, what is the plan for building wubi? automatic build or one-off?
[11:54] <cjwatson> I don't think we have the facility to build it sanely at the moment
[11:54] <cjwatson> xivulon: the most pragmatic approach is probably if you can deliver us a binary in some known location which we can then copy onto the disk
[11:54] <cjwatson> far from ideal, but would do the job for now
[11:54] <cjwatson> xivulon: somewhere on wubi-installer.org perhaps?
[11:55] <xivulon> sounds good to me
[12:01] <xivulon> cjwatson can we have the remaining changes in, so that I can start testing? I should have some spare time this w/e
[12:02] <cjwatson> which remaining changes?
[12:02] <cjwatson> I have done the swap-not-on-loop-device thing in my local tree but haven't tested it yet
[12:02] <cjwatson> what I mean is, which are critical to get testing started?
[12:02] <xivulon> Things to do are: inclusion of fuse, lupin-gutsy and ubiquity-xinit on the daily build
[12:03] <cjwatson> fuse is already there, as I keep saying
[12:03] <cjwatson> lupin I need to promote and seed, I'll organise that tomorrow
[12:03] <cjwatson> ubiquity is already committed and we'll probably upload that tomorrow
[12:04] <cjwatson> LVPM I think is way too late to look at for gutsy; we can think about that at UDS-Cambridge
[12:06] <cjwatson> ah, the fuse *module* is not yet copied into the initramfs
[12:06] <cjwatson> though all the other bits are
[12:06] <cjwatson> I'll fix that
[12:08] <cjwatson> done
[12:10] <CIA-18> ubiquity: evand * r2212 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py):
[12:10] <CIA-18> ubiquity: * Temporary fix for the language packs no longer installing bug (LP:
[12:10] <CIA-18> ubiquity:  #131294)
[12:10] <evand> I'll try to get rid of that as quickly as possible
[12:11] <xivulo1> cjwatson, sorry was disconnected and did not see your last msg
[12:12] <cjwatson> 23:03 <cjwatson> fuse is already there, as I keep saying
[12:12] <cjwatson> 23:03 <cjwatson> lupin I need to promote and seed, I'll organise that tomorrow
[12:12] <cjwatson> 23:03 <cjwatson> ubiquity is already committed and we'll probably upload that tomorrow
[12:12] <cjwatson> 23:04 <cjwatson> LVPM I think is way too late to look at for gutsy; we can think about that at UDS-Cambridge
[12:12] <cjwatson> 23:06 <cjwatson> ah, the fuse *module* is not yet copied into the initramfs
[12:12] <cjwatson> 23:06 <cjwatson> though all the other bits are
[12:12] <cjwatson> 23:06 <cjwatson> I'll fix that
[12:12] <cjwatson> 23:08 <cjwatson> done
[12:12] <xivulo1> thx


[00:29] <pleia2> nigelb: I am still seeing buttons without padding in your theme :\
[01:50] <pleia2> Pendulum: can you take a look at nigel's version of the new UW theme real quick to comment on it accessibility-wise?
[01:50] <Pendulum> pleia2: link?
[01:50] <pleia2> I'll set his theme to default so you don't need to log in
[01:52] <pleia2> Pendulum: http://uw.princessleia.com/MyWiki/
[01:52] <pleia2> "Edit (Text)
[01:52] <pleia2> Edit (GUI)
[01:52] <pleia2> Info
[01:52] <pleia2> Attachments"
[01:52] <pleia2> ^^ those links at the top
[01:52] <pleia2> we changed them from the blue and purple defaults to custom colors
[01:52] <pleia2> that's it :)
[01:55] <Pendulum> orange on white (and white on orange) with no border on anything isn't great for contrast. A slightly darker orange a little thicker would be better
[01:55] <Pendulum> err.. with a little thicker lettering
[01:55] <Pendulum> but it's readable to me
[01:55] <pleia2> would making them bold be ok?
[01:56] <Pendulum> I think it would probably help, but I'd have to see for sure
[01:56] <pleia2> ok :) thank you
[03:37] <pleia2> nigelb: I think you can commit your fix for 783301, and see Pen's comments ^^
[03:38] <pleia2> I am apparently completely useless with css, so trying to fix 798813 is eluding me
[03:39] <pleia2> elky: you mentioned you had some bugs for the wiki theme, can you submit them when you have a chance? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-women.org
[03:39] <pleia2> we're coming close to finishing the bugs I submitted, so I'd like to see us near a finishing point by the beginning of july
[04:36] <elky> elky, er... i think I left that part of my brain in aus...
[04:36] <elky> er, pleia2 ^
[04:38] <nigelb> elky: Yeah, you seem to be talking to yourself about that :P
[04:38]  * nigelb hugs elky
[04:39] <pleia2> elky: no worries, if you have a chance to review uw.princessleia.com to see if you find problems that aren't bug reports yet that'd be awesome
[04:39] <nigelb> pleia2: where do I commit it to?
[04:39] <nigelb> oh, right. nevermind :)
[04:39] <pleia2> nigelb: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-women/ubuntu-women.org/mointheme
[04:45] <nigelb> pleia2: heh, I'm trying to remember how I fixed that. diff should save the day
[04:45] <pleia2> :)
[04:45] <pleia2> pristine is in ubuntuwomen
[04:52]  * pleia2 heads off for the evening
[05:02] <nigelb> pleia2: Done!
[06:14] <pleia2> nigelb: thanks!


[00:11] <bwat47> On a fresh install of kubuntu when running updates in muon it just got stuck indefinitely on "waiting for configuration file" (I assume because the package had a new version of a system config file?) It never prompted me to replace a config file or anything it just say there indefinitely until I closed it and then fixed my packages with dpkg/apt-get
[00:11] <bwat47> Was this some kind of fluke or could this happen anytime a config file needs to be changed when running updates?
[02:28] <smaudet> So...just ran an upgrade on my system, bunch  of stuff updated I see...but I have 179 packages 'held back'. Any idea why?
[02:29] <smaudet> Looks like a lot of plasma/kde libraries as well.
[03:23] <alucardpotato> hey im using 13.04 raring.  what's the best, way to install kde-kubuntu for the most up to date stuff and whatnot
[05:23] <hyper_ch> hi there, on new kde 4.11 plasma-desktop just keeps crashing
[09:18] <tonz> hi folks, i am on unbuntu 12.04 and did an upgrade to kde 4.11 (backports ppa) now it seems there is a problem with the packaging.
[09:19] <tonz> nepomuk does not find virtuoso
[09:19] <tonz> though it runs
[09:19] <tonz> in the logs i saw it complains that it needs at least virtuoso 6.1.6
[09:19] <tonz> but only 6.1.4 is available
[09:20] <tonz> anyone else seeing this problem?
[09:34] <tonz_web> #
[09:36] <smartboyhw> tonz_web, uh oh:(
[09:37] <tonz_web> uhm, what?
[09:37] <smartboyhw> tonz_web, wait a minute, we will try to fix the issue...
[10:01] <fuke> hi
[10:01] <fuke> any body from aq
[10:02] <smartboyhw> tonz_web, tonz: The new virtuoso is currently building in the backports PPA, but you will have to wait for a bit of time before it will be available to you.
[10:02] <smartboyhw> fuke, aq?
[10:19] <smartboyhw> tonz_web, tonz: The i386 packages for virtuoso-opensource 6.1.6 have been released. The amd64 packages have been built successfully and is now awaiting publication.
[10:27] <hyper_ch> hi there, on new kde 4.11 plasma-desktop just keeps crashing
[10:30] <fuke> hi
[10:30] <smartboyhw> tonz, tonz_web virtuoso 6.1.6 is now available from the Kubuntu Backports PPA.
[10:49] <tonz> :D thanks smartboyhw
[11:02] <crazyboy> hello ,anyone here?
[11:03] <jussi> bueller? bueller? anyone?
[11:04] <jussi> crazyboy: just ask your question :)
[11:04] <smartboyhw> Riddell, please de-op:P
[11:05] <smartboyhw> Riddell, what?
[11:05] <smartboyhw> Riddell, I'm telling you to de-op yourself:P
[11:05] <Riddell> I was trying to go on a power crazed spree but it didn't work
[11:08] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:18] <tonz_> smartboyhw: ok, with the newest virtuoso package nepomuk starts but viewing emails in kontact seems not to work, it stalls with Mail Filter Agent 0%, akonadiconsole tells me that the akonadi nepomuk feeder is indexing but it does that awfully slow :( do you use kmail?
[11:18] <smartboyhw> tonz_, no unfortunately...
[11:18]  * smartboyhw uses GMail by web browsers;P
[11:19] <tonz_> hm okay, seems not really usable right now. i need to use it here in my company
[11:19] <tonz_> i don't want to use owa :(
[11:20] <tonz_> well, back to thunderbird once more maybe it behaves better after indexing is done
[11:23] <jussi> tonz_: I use Kmail everyday for work - perhaps its worth asking in #kontact
[11:24] <tonz_> jussi: do you use kde 4.11 already?
[11:24] <jussi> tonz_: no, Im on 4.10.5
[11:25] <tonz_> well, it worked for me on 4.10 too
[11:25] <jussi> tonz_: is this only one machine?
[11:25] <tonz_> but today i accidentally upgraded to 4.11
[11:25] <tonz_> yes, i am using my laptop
[11:26] <jussi> tonz_: one thing that may help, but is a little work, would be to delete and re-add the account. there _may_ be an upgrade issue.
[11:26] <tonz_> ok, i will try
[11:26] <tonz_> but kontact doesnt even start after first try
[11:26] <tonz_> i have to start it, kill it and start it again
[11:28] <jussi> tonz_: yeah, I actually had a similar issue after an upgrade sometime ago and that was the advice given to me
[11:47] <tonz_> jussi: wow, that seems to have fixed it :) mails reappeared and i can now actually read em
[11:47] <tonz_> thx ;)
[11:47] <jussi> tonz_: yw, glad it worked
[11:58] <tonz_> damn, receiving works now but not sending :( oh boy i hate it
[12:00] <linuxabc> Where does kmail keep the e-mails?
[12:01] <linuxabc> my /.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail is empty
[12:01] <linuxabc> in fact I don't have such directory
[12:02] <jussi> tonz_: did you recreate the smtp part ?
[12:03] <tonz_> jussi: yes
[12:03] <tonz_> it doesnt even seem to try it
[12:03] <jussi> tonz_: check the security settings are correct
[12:04] <tonz_> jussi: they are
[12:05] <tonz_> jussi: if not, kmail should give me some error, no?
[12:06] <jussi> tonz_: maybe, maybe not...
[12:31] <tonz_> jussi: ok, now i am back to where i began. reading mail doesnt work, sending doesnt work ... kmail seems to be broken in kubuntu :(
[12:32] <jussi> tonz_: ouch. please make a bug report, via the help menu. Smarter people than I can then look at it
[12:33] <tonz_> jussi: ok, will do tonight, wasted already too much working time on it :(
[13:02] <six86> hi. Just upgraded to KDE 4.11. Now, after login the window manager crashes. First i can see my panels, but with the opening of an application in the session it disapperas, and so do all window borders and decorations...
[13:03] <six86> I correct: my panel IS still there, but the window decoratiosn are not
[13:15] <six86> My problem of not having window decorations also exist for a newly added user....
[13:17] <six86> plasma-desktop
[13:17] <six86> arg... also having focus problems....
[13:25] <yahyaa> Does anyone know how to make Evolution work on Kubuntu?
[13:26] <Riddell> yahyaa: what doesn't work?
[13:26] <yahyaa> when I install and set up my account, it wont connect to the account
[13:33] <yahyaa> u still there???
[13:34] <six86> kde-window-manager and kde-workspace are not installed
[13:43] <simion314> kwin won't use opengl after upgrading to 4.11 , i am using the AMD proprietary driver and i upgrade only KDE(no kernel/drivers/xorg) i am using kubuntu 12.04 LTS with KDE from the backports PPA
[15:24] <yahyaa> can someone please help me with Evolution????
[15:24] <BluesKaj> !evolution
[15:25] <BluesKaj> ask in #ubuntu
[15:26] <novo> is there a kopete plugin for irc? or is not avaliable?
[15:27] <OerHeks> Now my kubuntu time troubles are bigger then ever: time does not refresh .. i see no seconds running
[15:28] <OerHeks> i cannot find a bugreport like this.
[15:29] <yahyaa> #ubuntu
[15:29] <yahyaa> oops how do I get to the ubuntu form?
[15:34] <smartboyhw> yahyaa, /j #ubuntu
[15:42] <rosco_y> I just got a problem report popup with some detail about com.ubuntu.apport.apport-gtk-root, should I be concerned about this?
[15:46] <OerHeks> now lets see if the time moves, without seconds.
[15:49] <tiberiu> huh ?
[15:51] <OerHeks> nope, Kubuntu has a serious time problem. i do not trust this KDE. logging off, trying to install ubuntu again, bye
[16:04] <tiberiu> bye
[16:05] <tiberiu> hey is there a command to open a terminal very quick
[16:05] <tiberiu> ?
[16:06] <genii> tiberiu: alt-f2 then type in: konsole   and hit return
[16:06] <tiberiu> hmmm let's try
[16:07] <tiberiu> I was thinking of a shortcut which will open an 'instant'  terminal
[16:13] <tiberiu> Skype protocol ... is this normal ? with 64bit you download the binary from skype and when you try to intall it is says  "Wrong architecture i368"
[16:15] <tiberiu> hmm I knew that this will happen :))
[16:15] <tiberiu> always haking with linux, huh?
[16:21] <tiberiu> awww ... can you run i386 programs on 64bits machine ?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> tiberiu, try yakuake , it opensa terminal with f12
[16:23] <[RoeyInABox]> heya BluesKaj
[16:23] <BluesKaj> hi [RoeyInABox]
[16:23] <[RoeyInABox]> BluesKaj:  I updated to the latest KDE release on my Quantal box,
[16:24] <BluesKaj> ok, and ?
[16:24] <[RoeyInABox]> and I noticed that when I push the cursor against the screen edges, they light up but the corresponding Desktop Effect does not show
[16:24] <tiberiu> you mean ctrl+alt+F(whatever)?
[16:24] <[RoeyInABox]> it works for me on my Raring Ringtail laptop though
[16:24] <[RoeyInABox]> tiberiu:  I mapped Present Windows to the bottom edge of the screen
[16:25] <[RoeyInABox]> the bottom edge lights up in blue but Present Windows does not happen
[16:25] <[RoeyInABox]> I can still do it by pressing alt-2 (mapped it to a key)
[16:25] <BluesKaj> tiberiu, you were asking about an instant terminal , then yakuake is what you want
[16:25] <BluesKaj> !yakuake
[16:25] <tiberiu> exactament :)
[16:25] <BluesKaj> !info yakuake
[16:25] <tiberiu> danke
[16:26] <BluesKaj> bid
[16:26] <[RoeyInABox]> tiberiu:  yeah yaquake is great because it's available no matter which desktop you're on
[16:26] <tiberiu> exactly what I was looking for, thanks guys!
[16:27] <BluesKaj> I use it almost exclusively , it hides if needed , but the process keeps doing what ever commands you've entered
[16:31] <tiberiu> and now what about frozen windows ? :)) "terminate application " seems to do nothing
[16:31] <[RoeyInABox]> tiberiu:  the guy who made it is nicknamed Sho_  over here btw
[16:32] <tiberiu> RoeyInABox: that cool should I say hi ?
[16:33] <[RoeyInABox]> tiberiu:  sure
[16:33] <[RoeyInABox]> use it a bit
[16:33] <[RoeyInABox]> get a sense for its usefulness
[16:33] <[RoeyInABox]> I mapped it to alt-`
[16:34] <[RoeyInABox]> oh, and I mapped Firefox's Panorama to alt-3
[16:34] <[RoeyInABox]> and I mapped Present WIndows to alt-2
[16:35] <navlelo_> I have tried to update my kubuntu raring install with kde 4.11 from the backports ppa. However, a lot of the packages are marked as manual install. Whats the best way to install these packages?
[16:35] <tiberiu> hmmm I think I'll leave it on F12 I have dust on that key
[16:35] <[RoeyInABox]> ah
[16:51] <tiberiu> lsb_release ? why it says that "No command 'lsb-release' found, did you mean ... " since apt-get says "lsb-release is already the newest version."
[16:51] <tiberiu> ?
[16:51] <tiberiu> any magic command for this ?
[16:56] <tiberiu> and this sudo, Jezz !!! ... is like I'm in Pentagon
[16:57] <slatenails> tiberiu, seems to be lsb_release
[17:03] <BluesKaj> lsb_release -r
[17:04] <BluesKaj> or -a
[17:09] <tiberiu> poteto potato this happens if you'r not a native en speaker  :-S
[18:47] <eliasp> when using the backports PPA for having KDE SC 4.11 on 13.04, krdc doesn't work anymore for RDP connections (The version of "xfreerdp" you are using is too old. xfreerdp 1.0.2 or greater is required.). The backports PPA should probably also provide freerdp-x11-1.0.2, as the standard repository only provides 1.0.1-2ubuntu1
[18:47] <eliasp> what's the appropriate place for Kubuntu bugs? also launchpad.net?
[18:48] <eliasp> ah, nvm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/krdc/+bug/1196466
[18:48] <shadeslayer> eliasp: I can have a look at that tomorrow
[18:48] <eliasp> shadeslayer: great, thanks a lot!
[18:48] <shadeslayer> thx for reporting
[18:55] <shadeslayer> k sleep
[18:55] <shadeslayer> night
[19:07] <Avihay> any solution for flash stuttering after a while? what do I need to kill to make it work?
[19:34] <juancarlos> hello, we got any Libre stand-alone Mobile Browser emulator for x86_64 Linux ?, like Mozilla Fennec was, or like Opera Mobile, not somethig that got tiny window, but actually emulate the device
[19:35] <juancarlos> :(
[21:25] <timblechmann> hi, after upgrading to 4.11, my desktop seems to be broken: new windows are stacked on the top/left, cannot be moved, don't show up in the task bar and the keyboard focus cannot change between applications.
[21:25] <timblechmann> is this a known issue? and any possible workaround?
[21:30] <MrGreen> Hey guys who else thinks 4.11 KDE sucks doggie nuts
[21:39] <voicu_> hello
[21:39] <voicu_> is it possible to make the kwin task switcher not raise the selected windows?
[21:40] <voicu_> and the same with the taskbar
[21:43] <alvin> Not me. It is supposed to be a release with emphasis on performance and bugfixes. Looks like that was a good idea. I like it.