[14:55] <arvind_khadri> chingus, if its ubuntu :)
[14:55] <chingus> I am having trouble turning on the dektop effects
[14:55] <chingus> It can't seem to find the drivers
[14:55] <LiCeT> how do in stall gspca?
[14:56] <bro> zebastian, it's when you see that the window is kind of slashed vertically and the upper half is slighty moved to right/left than the lower half. like in games when you don't select vertical syncronization [vsync]
[14:56] <chingus> what is stall gspca?
[14:56] <loneone> can someone help?
[14:56] <arvind_khadri> chingus, which card?
[14:56] <arvind_khadri> !ask | loneone
[14:56] <zebastian> bro: no no it works perfectly
[14:56] <zebastian> it's great
[14:56] <chingus> I don't know how to find out
[14:56] <zebastian> way better than jaunty
[14:56] <LiCeT> seems in need gspca
[14:56] <LiCeT> *i
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> loneone: run: lsusb    you will et an 8 character hex code you can websearch for
[14:56] <amnesia> jrib: so any user can still remove someone elses folder?, as long as the parent folder has write permissions
[14:56] <arvind_khadri> LiCeT, aptitude search gspca
[14:56] <IdleOne> LiCeT: gspca-source
[14:57] <loneone> ok
[14:57] <loneone> I want to install huawei 3g usb stick to my ubuntu
[14:57] <chingus> LiCeT: gspca-sourc
[14:57] <chingus> wait sorry
[14:57] <chingus> Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[14:57] <dragonrigs> helo my ubuntu has some problems latly i had an update and it needed 157mb and in my disk there is 215 gb and the error mesage told me to do sudo apt-get clean now whenever i go to the applications button. nothing apears but it gets highlighted
[14:57] <chingus> Thats my card
[14:57] <LiCeT> what about it chingus?
[14:58] <IdleOne> !intel > chingus
[14:58] <chingus> Er I can't turn on desktop effects becasue it can't find drivers for Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[14:58] <LiCeT> i   gspca-source                    - source for the gspca v4l kernel module
[14:58] <LiCeT> after search gspca
[14:58] <Halitech> dragonrigs, use pastebin to post the output of df -h
[14:58] <chingus> huh?
[14:58] <LiCeT> amsn && skype i just get a black screen
[14:58] <thiebaude> !intel | chingus
[14:59] <rich_dnb> guys why do i have to copy a printer every time i need to print?
[14:59] <LiCeT> pointing directly to the light i get the light
[14:59] <chingus> thanks
[14:59] <Beefcaked> hi i was just wondering.. when i had windows vista installed on my laptop it would last for 2 hours. now it only barely gets through 30 minutes
[14:59] <IdleOne> chingus: I have the exact same card. you can't :(
[14:59] <thiebaude> IdleOne, and i have the 80815
[14:59] <genii> noelferreira: Apologies on lag, work required me. You might want to try convmv
[14:59] <genii> !info convmv | noelferreira
[15:00] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: something got lost, when i logged on it said unable to establish connection with fam
[15:00] <chingus> I tried this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582
[15:00] <chingus> but my comp crashed
[15:00] <zebastian> brb
[15:00] <SoulBlade> how do i check the compile flags used to build the installed version of expat?
[15:01] <dragonrigs> Halitech http://pastebin.ca/1567011
[15:01] <mgv1> i want to ask. why don't they do some installations in ubuntu more simple? like the tor installation which i havn't succeed with
[15:01] <noelferreira> genii, i am using a server where i am not adminsitrator and i can't installl convmv: is there any other option. i just need the correct file encoding listed. the i use iconv
[15:02] <mgv1> why does my toolbar bookmarks dissapeard?
[15:02] <chingus> Okay I suppose I should reestablish my problem I can't activate desktop effects as drivers are not found for graphics card Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02 I tried whats on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 but it made my comp crashed. How can I activate them?
[15:02] <Halitech> dragonrigs, you used wubi to install?
[15:02] <thiebaude> chingus, you might not be able to
[15:02] <dragonrigs> Halitech yes
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> mgv1: they are simple, you cant even chosse defaults apps its that simple
[15:03] <chingus> Absolutely nothing I can do thiebaude?
[15:03] <genii> noelferreira: Does output of: iconv -l         show 8859 as a type it knows about?
[15:03] <loneone> can anyone help me about huawei 3g modem usb stick I cant install it properly pm me pls
[15:03] <thiebaude> chingus, im not sure, but i had to edit my xorg.conf to fix my problem
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> loneone: run: lsusb     you will get an 8 character hex code, websearch it and you will find guides
[15:04] <chingus> How did you do it?
[15:04] <thiebaude> chingus, does your X freeze?
[15:04] <chingus> nope
[15:04] <thiebaude> ok
[15:04] <loneone> ok I try it now
[15:04] <chingus> Everything works fine but when I try to make it flashy no drivers are found
[15:04] <Halitech> dragonrigs, ok, no way of resizing without reinstalling, you'll need to start looking at whats installed and removing some things
[15:05] <mehedi> why ubuntu can not play any media without installing media plug in?
[15:05] <dragonrigs> oh no
[15:05] <Halitech> chingus, if its not a laptop, buy a new card
 tor wasn't installed currectly for me and the intel graaphic driver is too problematic and not for begginer
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: windows is the same
[15:05] <chingus> can't afford one lol
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: no OS can play media without codecs
[15:05] <dragonrigs> Halitech there is no other way but using wubi to reinstall
[15:05] <dragonrigs> <:_(
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> mgv1: intel drivers are easy. I have a guide
[15:05] <Halitech> dragonrigs, you can do a real install install of the quasi install that wubi is
[15:05] <noelferreira> genii, iconv -l <filename> gives me all the types available. how can i get the one the file is using?
[15:05] <loneone> I have another problem about this modem there is a program run in windows need to connect usb stick and mobile company to connect me to internet
[15:06] <cornet> mehedi: the *real* answer is due to license restrictions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[15:06] <Halitech> chingus, anything used would still be better then the onboard intel chip
[15:06] <mehedi> its impossile to run ubuntu without interner connection
[15:06] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip, any day im ready to put 9.10 on my system
[15:06] <chingus> really, is it that bad?
[15:06] <dragonrigs> Halitech what?
[15:06] <Halitech> mehedi, no its not, just harder
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> mgv1: http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/05/reverting-xorg-video-intel-driver-of.html
[15:06] <chingus> thiebaude anythink with the xorg.conf idea?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> mgv1: you do realise nearly ALL netbooks use crappy intel chips so there are billions of guides on how to set them up
[15:06] <Halitech> dragonrigs, wubi "installs" ubuntu into a file inside windows, if windows goes boom, so does ubuntu
[15:07] <thiebaude> chingus, i can give you what i use, but i will say use at your risk in case it dont work for you
[15:07] <chingus> k,
[15:07] <thiebaude> 1 sec
[15:07] <chingus> I have backup of xorg.conf
[15:07] <arvind_khadri> !pppconfig > arvind_khadri
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: sure, you can run any installed OS with a web connection
[15:07] <chingus> thanks
[15:07] <thiebaude> chingus, open a terminal
[15:07] <thiebaude> np
[15:07] <dragonrigs> so your saying that my windows just went boom Halitech
[15:08] <mehedi> in windows there is no need for downloading any media plug in.but why it is in ubuntu?
[15:08] <Halitech> dragonrigs, no, just saying *IF* windows goes boom then so does Ubuntu
[15:08] <chingus> k terminal open
[15:08] <thiebaude> chingus, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:08] <dragonrigs> Halitech so... how do i fix my problem
[15:08] <chingus> k
[15:08] <dragonrigs> helo my ubuntu has some problems latly i had an update and it needed 157mb and in my disk there is 215 gb and the error mesage told me to do sudo apt-get clean now whenever i go to the applications button. nothing apears but it gets highlighted
 so maybe i need to find a time to install them. but until now i didn't and i don't know how to do it right anyway
[15:08] <Halitech> mehedi, windows still needs to download codecs, just has some base ones installed by default
[15:08] <genii> noelferreira: Sometimes: file -i <filename> will give more specific info, but not guaranteed
[15:09] <jully> http://earthdancemelbourne.org/
[15:09] <thiebaude> chingus, ok, under the video section
[15:09] <Halitech> dragonrigs, I told you, you need to clear space out or reinstall with a true install instead of using wubi
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> mgv1: thats wat the internet is for
[15:09] <chingus> There is no video section
[15:09] <noelferreira> genii, :( text/plain; charset=unknown
[15:09] <thiebaude> chingus, display
[15:09] <chingus> There is only device monitor and screen
[15:10] <thiebaude> chingus, i wish i could see how your xorg.conf looks like
[15:10] <mehedi> what is the main benefit of ubuntu?
[15:10] <chingus> I'll show you
[15:10] <Halitech> mehedi, do a fresh install using an install cd and not a restore cd and see what works out of the box
[15:10] <thiebaude> thanks alot
[15:10] <chingus> Section "Device"
[15:10] <chingus> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[15:10] <chingus> EndSection
[15:10] <chingus> Section "Monitor"
[15:10] <chingus> 	Identifier	"Configured Monitor"
[15:10] <chingus> EndSection
[15:10] <FloodBot2> chingus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:10] <_ikke_> is it a big problem if a system upgrade in ubuntu was aborted?
 i can't easily understand how to perform the many ideas in guides
[15:10] <dragonrigs> Halitech so i remove windows COMPLETLY but what happens if the real install doesnt work
[15:10] <genii> noelferreira: It's apparently an unknown character set then
[15:11] <dragonrigs> Halitech how do i exit from ubuntu live cd
[15:11] <thiebaude> chingus, right under configured video device
[15:11] <Halitech> dragonrigs, you don't need to remove windows completely, you can dual boot
[15:11] <chingus> I am sorry
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> mgv1: most are step by step, like taht one i gave
[15:11] <chingus> didn't know about flooding
[15:11] <Halitech> dragonrigs, shut down and reboot
[15:11] <dragonrigs> Halitech thats how it gets hard
[15:11] <chingus> yes thiebaude
[15:11] <mehedi> what is the main benefit of ubuntu?
[15:11] <mehedi> what is the main benefit of ubuntu?
[15:11] <dragonrigs> Halitech so no need for reinsyall
[15:11] <noelferreira> genii, so how can i convert it to utf-8?
[15:11] <kwork> mehedi,  over what ?
[15:12] <dragonrigs> mehedi |!wait
[15:12] <Halitech> dragonrigs, no but you need to free some room
[15:12] <chingus> thiebaude?
[15:12] <dragonrigs> ok
[15:12] <_ikke_> is it a big problem if a system upgrade in ubuntu was aborted?
[15:12] <dragonrigs> ill do the real install
[15:12] <thiebaude> chingus, add this           Option              "DRI"   "off"
[15:12] <mehedi> over windows
[15:12] <Halitech> mehedi, its free, no viruses, support is free and alot better then MS
[15:12] <chingus> k added
[15:12] <thiebaude> chingus, and save it
[15:12] <chingus> k done
[15:13] <thiebaude> chingus, ok, now just re-boot completely
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: its a bit oftopic here
[15:13] <thiebaude> hope it works
 yes but when i've tried many guides i didn't knew what to do. why it's not simple to just make installtions?
[15:13] <IdleOne> thiebaude: DRI is disabled by default in jaunty due to the known intel regression
[15:13] <chingus> After I reboot, should I activate the desktop effects?
[15:13] <dragonrigs> Halitech IF a defect is found while on live cd what will i do
[15:13] <tavelram> (on a single-user system running blackbox) any suggestions on something more lightweight than gdm? xdm? quingy? how stable is quingy?
[15:13] <thiebaude> IdleOne, me adding that fixed my problem with my X freezing
[15:14] <com-8> cwo_bug1L
[15:14] <elops> a mount keeps being added to my mtab file, any idea why this might be? i may have added something somewhere a while back that did this, but i cant remember where... it is not in fstab
[15:14] <IdleOne> thiebaude: ok just saying
[15:14] <Halitech> dragonrigs, what do you mean?
[15:14] <chingus> thiebaude, once i reboot should that be it?
[15:14] <thiebaude> IdleOne, if i dont add "DRI" then x will freeze
[15:14] <thiebaude> chingus, yes
[15:14] <chingus> k thanks
[15:14] <chingus> cya
[15:14] <chingus> thanks a lot
[15:14] <thiebaude> ok
[15:14] <thiebaude> np
[15:14] <demonspork> does anyone have the "Matrix Rebooted" Iconset, because the original source is missing and I can't find it anywhere else
[15:14] <elops> a mount keeps being added to my mtab file, any idea why this might be? i may have added something somewhere a while back that did this, but i cant remember where... it is not in fstab --  http://pastebin.com/d27473af
[15:14] <thiebaude> and if it dont work, i tried
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> mgv1: because not all systems are identical so you need to work a bit yourself
[15:15] <dpreacher> ActionParsnip hello after long time
[15:15] <genii> noelferreira: If exact coding IS known, with iconv the syntax is like:  iconf -f ISO_8859-1  -t UTF-8 <filename>
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> dpreacher: howdy
[15:15] <Maverixx> #ubuntu-de
[15:15] <dpreacher> ActionParsnip i'm good and you?
[15:15] <thiebaude> IdleOne, i guess thats what i get for a 9yr old graphics card,lol
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> dpreacher: not too shabby at all :)
[15:16] <mehedi> ubuntu has a huge problem. once the screen resolution is being changed,it can not be readjusted without setup!!
 funny. what do you mean by systems? like jaunty or something like that? why there isn't transsystem installations?
[15:16] <IdleOne> mehedi: do you need any help with ubuntu?
[15:16] <mehedi> ya
[15:16] <elops> So?
[15:16] <IdleOne> mehedi: ask a question
[15:16] <Halitech> mehedi, I can change mine easily without rerunning the setup
[15:17] <dpreacher> can someone suggest how to instruct pppd to log to separate files per pppoe connection (we have 2 isp lines coming in, and ubuntu has load balancing the 2 connections) using syslog?
[15:19] <jms1989> hello, quick question. why wouldn't a ubuntu system auto mount a usb drive? would could cause it?
[15:19] <dsdeiz> anyone here with debian experience?
[15:19] <MeGa> hey guys is there program for linux that work like Microsoft C++?
[15:19] <elops> a mount keeps being added to my mtab file, any idea why this might be? i may have added something somewhere a while back that did this, but i cant remember where... it is not in fstab --  http://pastebin.com/d27473af
[15:20] <IdleOne> dsdeiz: #debian
 i couldn't succed with the guide
[15:22] <kudi1> whats a god cd bruner program
[15:22] <Halitech> kudi1, k3b
[15:22] <thiebaude> !burn
[15:22] <kudi1> thanks
[15:25] <librenes> dpreacher-> just an idea, if you are familiar with iptables, you can mark and direct the log per interface basis..
[15:25] <demonspork> is it still better to install the nvidia drivers directly from nvidia or is the driver from the repository adequate
[15:25] <boscop> I already set opera as my default browser on ubuntu (for speed reasons) but when I double click on a html file in nautilus, it still opens it with firefox. why?
[15:25] <thiebaude> demonspork, repository
[15:26] <demonspork> boscop, and html file is considered "the internet" when you set opera to be the default browser, it is just set to handle things like http://www.google.com and such
[15:26] <dpreacher> librenes, currently loadbalancing using shorewall which uses iptables basically. but you're saying that iptables would be logging instead of  pppd? i know which interface is for which isp line...
[15:26] <demonspork> boscop, you have to associate the html file with opera separately
[15:26] <boscop> demonspork, each single hmtl file??
[15:26] <demonspork> boscop, no
[15:27] <th3seaw0lf> hi
[15:27] <th3seaw0lf> I have a dell optiplex gx 240, with AD1885 Integrated Audio. i installed ubuntu 9.04 and im not getting any sound. neither from my speakers nor from my pc speakers, need help please.
[15:27] <demonspork> boscop, just the .html extension isn't associated, because setting a default browser just associates URL handle with a particular browser
[15:27] <librenes> dpreacher-> yes, there are hooks within netfilter aka iptables to allow you to mark a packet based on which interface it goes in/out then your rules will log them
[15:27] <demonspork> boscop, but since a .html file isn't a URL, then it is still set top open with firefox
[15:28] <dpreacher> librenes, thanks for the awesome tip. I'll sit with my colleague who has worked on the shorewall setup and get it done.
[15:28] <boscop> demonspork, ok thx
[15:29] <th3seaw0lf> I have a dell optiplex gx 240, with AD1885 Integrated Audio. i installed ubuntu 9.04 and im not getting any sound. neither from my speakers nor from my pc speakers, need help please. can somebody help me please?
[15:29] <librenes> dpreacher-> perhaps you and your friend can write some tutorials on how you got it accomplished? i cant do it myself as i never had two isp providers
[15:29] <thiebaude> chingus, did it work?
[15:29] <boscop> demonspork, and how do I make apps like vlc show up in opening dialogs?
[15:29] <chingus> no :(
[15:29] <thiebaude> ahh man
[15:29] <chingus> but it sped up my computer by a lot
[15:30] <boscop> demonspork, for example opening a stream in opera
[15:30] <chingus> Amazing I was aiming for the effects but this is actually better...
[15:30] <thiebaude> chingus, you trying to compiz?
[15:30] <chingus> But still any more tips?
[15:30] <dpreacher> librenes i see. that'll be some task to achieve then. i'll post my notes somewhere public
[15:30] <thiebaude> use
[15:30] <chingus> I tried Compiz but no help.
[15:31] <thiebaude> chingus, i cant use compiz either
[15:31] <chingus> The desktop thing just doesn't work
[15:31] <chingus> hmmm...
[15:31] <ccole1> good day, using 8.10 as a file server i wrote a shell script to backup the users home directories, i set it as a cron job but it only backs up some users not all, when i run the script manually it works as intended. what could be wrong
[15:31] <chingus> I might actually go with the other person's suggestion, and get a new graphics card
[15:31] <chingus> WEll thanks thiebaude.
[15:31] <thiebaude> chingus, just remember that xorg.conf thing i did
[15:31] <thiebaude> np
[15:31] <librenes> dpreacher yes, its not quite easily done. here is one link that may help   http://www.shorewall.net/traffic_shaping.htm
[15:31] <chingus> Pity the desktop couldn't work but my comps lighting fast now.
[15:32] <thiebaude> chingus, write it down
[15:32] <chingus> What did that function do?
[15:32] <chingus> Write what down?
[15:32] <thiebaude> chingus, yep
[15:32] <Pavlz> end of draft for 802.11n after 7 years :-)
[15:32] <chingus> Oh kk
[15:32] <chingus> Yea...
[15:33] <dpreacher> librenes i agree no less, my friend's i'd admit the more smarter and persistent one, who got the loadbalancing done after some months without a custom kernel or anything
[15:33] <tuxxie> ccole1: output the script to a log file.
[15:33] <chingus> Its saved in and all now, and made back up of that on more than just root...
[15:33] <mgv1> do you maybe know why so many times it takes loads of time to find the right wireless network wireless network while some time it doesn't find it at all?
[15:33] <thiebaude> chingus, cool
[15:33] <ccole1> i did it gives no errors
[15:33] <chingus> well anyway g2g thanks thiebaude
[15:33] <chingus> exit.
[15:33] <thiebaude> chingus, no problem, glad that worked
[15:33] <tuxxie> even when it does not work?
[15:34] <librenes> dpreacher i dont think it requires a special kernel, more of a module within netfilter
[15:34] <ccole1> yeah
[15:34] <tuxxie> use rm -v
[15:34] <dpreacher> oh librenes...i was referring to the load balancing part
[15:34] <dpreacher> which also can be done with or without custom kernel
[15:34] <lotia> hello all. are there any sources from where i can install newer kernels onto jaunty
[15:35] <ccole1> rm -v explain please
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> lotia:  check the PPA repositories perhaps.
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> !ppa
[15:35] <tuxxie> ccole1: man rm
[15:36] <tuxxie> you are using rm to delete the files correct?
[15:36] <tuxxie> !man
[15:36] <th3seaw0lf> I have a dell optiplex gx 240, with AD1885 Integrated Audio. i installed ubuntu 9.04 and im not getting any sound. neither from my speakers nor from my pc speakers, need help please.
[15:36] <ccole1> sorry i know what rm does but i am not removing files
[15:36] <lotia> Dr_Willis: i checked there first. unfortunately the ppa is no longer being used.
[15:37] <ccole1> i am creating a tar archive to backup user files
[15:37] <prince_jammys> ccole1: see if there's any error output in /var/mail/$USER
[15:37] <ccole1> none
[15:37] <eni23> hello guys. i got here a lot of mp3's with mpeg2-layer codec. how can i find them all in bash
[15:37] <demonspork> Hello, I can't figure out how to get my Creative fatal1ty USB headset working in Ubuntu Jaunty. Help
[15:37] <tuxxie> oops?
[15:37] <miranda82> i remember there was a program that would let you sync multiple things, like fspot to picasa, emails to gmail, calendars with gcalendar, rings a bell to anyone?
[15:37] <mgv1> do you maybe know why so many times it takes loads of time to find the right wireless network wireless network while some time it doesn't find it at all?
[15:38] <ccole1> can i post a copy of my script
[15:38] <tuxxie> ccole1: pastin your script
[15:38] <Halitech> th3seaw0lf, if its the same as the Dell optiplex I had, its an ISA based sound card and I found it easier to install a PCI sound card
[15:38] <ccole1> #creates a gzip tar file of users home directory and databases
[15:38] <miranda82> conduit is the answer btw...
[15:38] <th3seaw0lf> Hlitech, so what should i do?
[15:38] <th3seaw0lf> get a new soundcard?
[15:38] <Halitech> th3seaw0lf, does it show up in lspci?
[15:39] <solos_revenge> hi,
[15:39] <th3seaw0lf> no
[15:39] <solos_revenge> is there a masm dissembler in the masm installer included?
[15:40] <tuxxie> ccole1: is the script running as root? and are there hole dir missing or just a few files?
[15:40] <Halitech> th3seaw0lf, then its probably an isa based card which means getting a PCI sound card would be easier
[15:40] <arvind_khadri> solos_revenge, its nasm in linux
[15:40] <ccole1> i put it as a cron job sudo crontab -e
[15:40] <solos_revenge> yes but im talking about masm
[15:41] <ccole1> of the 8 directories it copies 2 when run as a cron
[15:41] <th3seaw0lf> Halitech, now soundcard then? ok :/
[15:41] <solos_revenge> its a different syntax isnt it?
[15:41] <demonspork> !hello
[15:41] <brot_> hi, can anyone help me with a PAM problem?
[15:42] <prince_jammys> ccole1: use the pastebin
[15:42] <prince_jammys> !pastebin | ccole1 : nothing got pasted here
[15:42] <th3seaw0lf> there is a 4 line code i have to type in terminal now and again, can i make an executable or smthng so those 4 lines are executed with a single click?
[15:42] <grawity> th3seaw0lf: Make a shell script
[15:43] <th3seaw0lf> grawity, i dont know how to
[15:43] <Halitech> th3seaw0lf, there is info here (older though so may not work) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156334 and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetupSoundCards?highlight=%28sound%29
[15:43] <tuxxie> ccole1: your command looks like #tar cvfz tar.tar /home/
[15:43] <grawity> th3seaw0lf: 1) Open a text editor. 2) Type #!/bin/bash as the first line. 3) Type the rest of your commands. 4) Save. 5) In terminal, chmod +x yourscript.
[15:43] <th3seaw0lf> ok, thanks grawity
[15:43] <th3seaw0lf> thanks Halitech :)
[15:44] <solos_revenge> well ollydbg does well
[15:44] <ccole1> yeah, i'm just paranoid about backups so i do a piece at a time and test each part
[15:45] <brot_> i have a stack of modules in order auth required pam_env,auth required pam_tally,auth sufficient pam_unix.so ... this is effectively rendering my authentication useless ...
[15:45] <brot_> i want to know why
[15:45] <brot_> can anyone help?
[15:46] <lars2> !help > lars2
[15:46] <brot_> if i change pam_unix.so back to "required" ... everything is working ok
[15:47] <tuxxie> ccole1:  please pastin your script so i can look at it.
[15:47] <jiohdi> why do some programs run by name and others require ./ to run them?
[15:48] <brot_> jiohdi: if they are in the PATH you dont need the ./
[15:48] <ccole1> pasted
[15:48] <tuxxie> jiohdi: some are in your path.
[15:48] <grawity> jiohdi: There's an environment variable $PATH that contains a list of directories where to search for programs if you don't specify a path.
[15:48] <brot_> jiohdi: otherwise you will need the ./
[15:48] <tuxxie> where is the link?
[15:48] <grawity> jiohdi: For example, 'ls' is in /bin, and /bin is in $PATH, so you only type 'ls'
[15:48] <jiohdi> grawity: in what path?
[15:49] <grawity> jiohdi: echo "$PATH"
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> !path
[15:49] <brot_> jiohdi: try e.g. "which echo" and then "echo ${PATH}"
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> jiohdi:  your 'current' directory is normally not on your PATH  unlike windows where it normally IS searched first.
[15:50] <brot_> jiohdi: you will find /bin in the list of directories
[15:50] <jiohdi> I get you... mostly bin folders
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> Bash Basics :)
[15:50] <grawity> grawity@insanity ~/Projects$ echo $PATH
[15:50] <grawity> ~/.bin:~/.local/bin:~/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games
[15:50] <grawity> jiohdi: And if you want to run a program that is not in $PATH, you need to specify the full path.
[15:51] <jiohdi> or be in that directory
[15:51] <_ikke_> Dr_Willis: Thats the most satisfying answer
[15:51] <ccole1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/271497/
[15:51] <grawity> jiohdi: No, the current directory is never in $PATH by default.
[15:51] <grawity> jiohdi: ./someprogram means "run someprogram from the current directory"
[15:51] <jiohdi> I meant in the directory of the program
[15:52] <grawity> If you're in the directory of the program, you _still_ need to specify the full path to the program.
[15:52] <brot_> anyone knows about some detailed PAM documentation?
[15:52] <monne> When I'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.04 from live pendrive, its giving unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda FATAL ERROR
[15:52] <monne> I tried other partitions, same error
[15:52] <jiohdi> grawity... I just did ./uninstall from within the google-earth dir and did not need to specify anything more
[15:52] <grawity> jiohdi: But you did specify the path - by using ./
[15:53] <grawity> jiohdi: "." means the current directory, and ./uninstall means a file "uninstall" in the current directory.
[15:53] <jiohdi> ah I c
[15:53] <NakidGirl_With_I> Hi All how to install XEN kernel on Jaunty
[15:54] <NakidGirl_With_I> Hi All how to install XEN kernel on Jaunty
[15:54] <monne> Has anybody with a similar problem?
[15:54] <NakidGirl_With_I> Hi All how to install XEN kernel on Jaunty
[15:55] <mohanohi> hi..
[15:55] <monne> Unable to install GRUB, FATAL ERROR whiile installing jaunty from Pendrive
[15:55] <NakidGirl_With_I> Hi All how to install XEN kernel on Jaunty
[15:55] <mohanohi> a software is asking for libpython.2.6.so, But the file is in /usr/lib path.. But it isn't looking there..
[15:55] <adalal> monne: make sure the pendrive installation was free from defects
[15:55] <adalal> monne: run a checkdisk on it
[15:55] <mohanohi> how to set path?
[15:56] <brot_> mohanohi: edit your ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile
[15:56] <prince_jammys> ccole1: save the date in a variable and use the variable when making the file names. what if the date changes in mid-script?
[15:56] <mohanohi> brot_: ok.. :)
[15:56] <brot_> PATH=${PATH}:/path/to/mydir
[15:56] <brot_> export PATH
[15:56] <monne> adalal, Okay! Let me try
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> Err.. a Library path  is DIFFERNT from the shell PATH for binaries
[15:57] <mohanohi> brot_: thanx :)
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> unless i missread what mohanohi was saying... he needs his lib path.
[15:57] <brot_> Dr_Willis: how to set path
[15:57] <tuxxie> ccole1: on the tar line redirect using only >> to a file and i would use pbzip2 for speed but besure to leave 1 cpu core open.
[15:57] <mgv1> can you tell me how do i able to encrypt files when burning them?
[15:57] <mohanohi> Dr_Willis: yes.. thats the thing.. i need to set the lib path
[15:57] <ackbahr> Hi! I just reinstalled Jaunty 64bits on my computer, and I (that is the user name and password given during setup) am not administrator! What can I do?
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> its LD_PATH i think for libs.. and that dir should allready be in the default LD_PATH
[15:57] <NakidGirl_With_I> Hi All how to install XEN kernel on Jaunty
[15:57] <mgv1> and also, do you know of an active food channel?
[15:57] <legend2440> NakidGirl_With_I: http://mulps.wordpress.com/2009/05/31/install-xen-kernel-on-ubuntu-9-04-jaunty-i386/
[15:58] <NakidGirl_With_I> legend2440> Thnanks let me check
[15:59] <mohanohi> Dr_Willis: should i do export LDPATH=:/path/to/mydir ?
[15:59] <ccole1> tuxxie:i am redirecting the 2nd stream ie stderr to the log file
[16:00] <tuxxie> ccole1: yes but not all files backed up. this will give you and idea of what is happing prior to the script stopping.
[16:00] <brot_> mohanohi: sorry ... Dr_willis is right ... you mean LD_PATH ...
[16:00] <ccole1> tuxxie:the problem remains that when i run this script manually sudo ./backup.sh it does all directories, when i put it as a cron job it only does 2
[16:01] <ccole1> tuxxie ok wile try now
[16:01] <yassine_> hello
[16:01] <yassine_> i nedd program convert .nrg to iso
[16:01] <mohanohi> brot_: how to set it?
[16:01] <mohanohi> brot_: should i do export LDPATH=:/path/to/mydir ?
[16:02] <brot_> mohanohi: did you install phyton?
[16:02] <yassine_> i nedd program convert .nrg to .iso
[16:02] <mohanohi> brot_: yeah..
[16:02] <mohanohi> brot_: the file is in /usr/lib folder..
[16:02] <tuxxie> yassine_: http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/09/16/convert-nero-image-nrg-to-iso9660-iso/
[16:02] <AE-Member973> people
[16:03] <AE-Member973> u play aion?
[16:03] <AE-Member973> xD
[16:03] <Pici> !ot | AE-Member973
[16:03] <AE-Member973> abybody
[16:03] <yassine_> tuxxie , thank you
[16:03] <AE-Member973> this is aion channel
[16:03] <AE-Member973> ?
[16:03] <brot_> mohanohi: find /lib /usr -iname libpython.2.6.so
[16:03] <mohanohi> AE-Member973: no.
[16:03] <tuxxie> !google
[16:03] <brot_> mohanohi: is it present on the system?
[16:04] <mohanohi> brot_: yes it is..
[16:04] <IdleOne> yassine_: nrg2iso in repository
[16:04] <brot_> mohanohi: strange ... yeah then try to add the path to LD_PATH
[16:04] <ubuntux> hi
[16:04] <IdleOne> yassine_: apt-cache search nrg2iso
[16:04] <mohanohi> brot_: how? i am new to this :(
[16:04] <mohanraj> hw to format pendrive
[16:05] <mgv1> can you tell me how do i able to encrypt files when burning them?
[16:05] <murielgodoi> hi all,  I'm trying to set a gconf value as default to all users, but no success. Any Ideas?
[16:05] <mgv1> and also, do you know of an active food channel?
[16:06] <brot_> mohanohi: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:/path/to/lib
[16:06] <mgv1> and also, how can i make xchat open links from here? http://searchirc.com/search.php?F=partial&I=food&T=both&N=all&M=min&C=1&PER=15&D=color&Submit=+Go+
[16:06] <brot_> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[16:06] <Pici> mgv1: /msg alis help list    for finding channels, also try #freenode
[16:06] <mohanohi> brot_: thank you :)
[16:06] <tuxxie> mohanohi: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html will help you.
[16:07] <mohanohi> tuxxie: will look through.. thank you :)
 how do i use freenode to find channels?
[16:07] <Pici> mgv1: You're on the freenode irc network, #freenode is the general help channel, maybe they have suggestions
 ok :)
[16:09] <ccole1> tuxxie:i ran it using cron it just ignored the other directories
[16:09] <tuxxie> ccole1: any logs?
[16:11] <ccole1> tuxxie:it just echoed the files and directories being backed up
[16:12] <ndrwc> how can I request a package that's had a bugfix in karmic be backported(?) to jaunty?
[16:12] <ionut__> Hello! I'm having a problem with smplayer and nvidia. I have nvidia 185.18.14 and mplayer with vdpau. If I play a video in fullscreen whenever I go to the bottom to show the smplayer toolbar the screen flickers. Also when the toolbar disappears the screen flickers. Even when I turn the volume down with the multimedia keys. DOes anyone else experience this?
[16:13] <ndrwc> also, how can I request that a package in hardy be synchronised with upstream for some major bugfixes?
[16:13] <dragonrigs> is there a countdown for karmaik
[16:14] <ionut__> Forgot to mention : using Jaunty 64 bit with 2.6.30-020630-generic on a Dell Inspiron 1520 notebok with NVIDIA 8600 M GT video card
[16:14] <roobly_roo> I've installed g++, build-essentials, etc and have been compiling some things from source on Intrepid Ibex.  I came to the realization though, that memcmp (a very basic function) isn't included in /usr/include/stdio.h.  How this could have happened is beyond my ability to reason, but does anyone know a decent means of getting functional C++ libraries in ubunutu?
[16:15] <dragonrigs> helo  is there a countdown for karmic
[16:15] <psalas> si
[16:15] <psalas> y que
[16:15] <ionut__> dragonrigs : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-910-karmic-koala-release-schedule.html
[16:15] <speedball> hello
[16:16] <psalas> hola
[16:16] <psalas> quien habla español?
[16:16] <IdleOne> !es | psalas
[16:16] <dragonrigs> speedball gr8
[16:16] <ndrwc> hrm, I might have to try out alpha 6 on my macbook again, alpha 5 didn't boot :/
[16:17] <Vinceman> why won't VLC play a MOV-file?
[16:17] <dragonrigs> speedball yooho
[16:17] <speedball> lol
[16:18] <mgv2> i've just faild to install an dvd of files because the screen went black and now it says that the disc is empty even though it was in the middle of the copying.
[16:18] <arand> ndrwc: try daily sa well..
[16:18] <Pici> !karmic
[16:18] <yassine_> how do i use nrg2iso?
[16:18] <ionut__> Hello! I'm having a problem with smplayer and nvidia. I have nvidia 185.18.14 and mplayer with vdpau. If I play a video in fullscreen whenever I go to the bottom to show the smplayer toolbar the screen flickers. Also when the toolbar disappears the screen flickers. Even when I turn the volume down with the multimedia keys. Does anyone else experience this?
[16:18] <rashed2020> Karmic will break WHAT?
[16:18] <ndrwc> arand: it's a macbook 5,2 and I've already got acpi=off in jaunty, but it's my main work machine so I can't afford downtime during office hours :/
[16:19] <LjL> itself, rashed2020
[16:19] <yassine_> how do i use nrg2iso?
[16:19] <mgv2> lets say i'm going to install windoes xp over ubuntu running system. i would i be able to do it and be able to boot ubuntu? do i need to first devide the drive again?
[16:19] <ionut__> yassine man nrg2iso
[16:19] <yassine_> ionut___
[16:19] <IdleOne> yassine_: nrg2iso file.nrg file.iso
[16:20] <IdleOne> yassine_: you might need to use sudo
[16:20] <ionut__> ./nrg2iso image.nrg image.iso
[16:21] <ionut__> yassine: http://gregory.kokanosky.free.fr/v4/linux/nrg2iso.en.html
[16:21] <xurxo> This is my problemxurxo@xurxo-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get -y install build-essential ncurses-dev gettext xmlto
[16:21] <xurxo> [sudo] password for xurxo:
[16:21] <xurxo> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[16:21] <xurxo> Any suggestions? Thanks!
[16:21] <FloodBot2> xurxo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:22] <thiebaude> xurxo, did you run that?
[16:22] <dkurtz> why does update-rc -f <service> remove only remove the links in rc<num>.d and not rcS.d?
[16:22] <LjL> wow, it specifies you have to use sudo now? awesome.
[16:22] <xurxo> thiebude. Yes. I got it off the internet. why?
[16:22] <genii> LjL: Heh, you noticed that too
[16:22] <mads-> Hi. I have a ubuntu live cd which for some reason will not start X. Is it possible with this to install ubuntu over the internet or something? I can boot it up and I have access to tty
[16:23] <thiebaude> xurxo, its telling you to run dpkg
[16:23] <arvind_khadri> !alternate | mads-
[16:23] <mgv2> if i've a bunch of links and i want their htmls, how can i download them all together?
[16:23] <xurxo> how? just type in what it tells me to?
[16:23] <mads-> I am not able to burn any CDs or make any bootable USB disks
[16:24] <Omlet> new game: http://www.clodogame.fr/change_please/8715913/
[16:24] <LjL> xurxo: that would seem like a reasonable option
[16:24] <thiebaude> xurxo, yes in a terminal
[16:24] <DJones> !ot | Omlet
[16:24] <ndrwc> !backport
[16:26] <dkurtz> mgv2, use wget
[16:26] <mgv2> how can i add more sets of sounds to ubuntu?
[16:26] <tuxxie> ccole1: I am not sure what to tell you. I have almost the same script and it works like a charm. sorry :(
[16:26] <ionut__> Hello! I'm having a problem with smplayer and nvidia. I have nvidia 185.18.14 and mplayer with vdpau. If I play a video in fullscreen whenever I go to the bottom to show the smplayer toolbar the screen flickers. Also when the toolbar disappears the screen flickers. Even when I turn the volume down with the multimedia keys. Does anyone else experience this?
[16:26] <ccole1> tuxxie:thanks
[16:26] <xurxo> xurxo@xurxo-laptop:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:26] <xurxo> Setting up flashplugin-installer (<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>) ...
[16:26] <xurxo> Downloading...
[16:26] <xurxo> --2009-09-15 17:24:58--  http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_<IP_ADDRESS>.orig.tar.gz
[16:26] <xurxo> Resolving archive.canonical.com... <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:26] <FloodBot2> xurxo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:26] <thiebaude> ionut__, have you tried mplayer?
[16:26] <xurxo> Connecting to archive.canonical.com|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80... connected.
[16:26] <tuxxie> ccole1: I would ask #bash
[16:28] <IdleOne> !paste | xurxo
[16:28] <[31d1]> is there a seperate channel for talking about karmic?
[16:28] <ionut__> thiebaude the same happens with mplayer (I compilled the lateste version, I used mplayer-mt) but the result is the same - the screen flickers (flicker = desktop background appears intermittently with the video)
[16:28] <DJones> !karmic | [31d1]
[16:28] <[31d1]> aha, thc
[16:29] <xurxo> thiebaude: so, did you see what its doing? maybe you can explain to me why this has to do anything with flashplayer
[16:29] <Krauser_> hi is there a way to reboot a completely hanged up machine using ssh ?
[16:29] <genii> Krauser_: Is the ssh session also locked?
[16:29] <dkurtz> it if's completely hung you probably can't ssh to it
[16:30] <genii> dkurtz: Yes, exactly
[16:30] <Krauser_> is there a way to know wether it is powered on or not ?
  how do i launch it and for which question?
[16:31] <dkurtz> ping?
[16:31] <Krauser_> i cant ping it
[16:31] <Krauser_> it shows reques timed out
[16:31] <dkurtz> then i'd say it's off of the network interface isn't up
[16:31] <dkurtz> s/of/or
[16:31] <dkurtz> mgv2, for retrieving the html from different links
[16:32] <dkurtz> Krauser_, does anyone have physical access to it?
[16:32] <dkurtz> or does it have a service processor?
[16:32] <Krauser_> dkurtz yes employees have
[16:32] <Krauser_> through ssh
[16:32] <Krauser_> its a seperate machine
[16:32] <Krauser_> for game servers
[16:33] <dkurtz> anyone that could tell you it's status of on or off?
[16:33] <icenova> hey guys !
[16:33] <michLinuxGuy> icenova: hey guy!!!
[16:34] <Krauser_> dkurtz is there a programme wich auto restarts a completely hung up machine ?
[16:34] <icenova> xD
[16:34] <icenova> ok
[16:34] <icenova> i need help !
[16:34] <dkurtz> not unless you can access it through an ip kvm
[16:34] <dkurtz> or something separate from the OS
[16:34] <Krauser_> :(
[16:34] <icenova> i bet 153098329 users come here asking the same thing
[16:34] <michLinuxGuy> Krauser: You would need watchdog hardware to do that
[16:35] <icenova> i need help choosing my pc components, but i want them cheap !
[16:35] <Krauser_> sad :(
[16:35] <Trijntje> !ot | icenova
[16:35] <icenova> ?
[16:35] <Myrtti> !hardware | icenova
[16:35] <michLinuxGuy> icenova: What is your budget?
[16:35] <DJones> icenova: You'll probably be better asking in #hardware
[16:35] <classical> hey all :-)
[16:35] <icenova> oh ups
[16:35] <icenova> i thought i was writing on that chanel LOL
[16:35] <icenova> sorry
[16:35] <icenova> xD
[16:36] <n-iCe> hi
[16:36] <icenova> michLinuxGuy, 250 €
[16:36] <classical> i have ubuntu 9.04
[16:36] <icenova> but ok, i'll move to that channel
[16:36] <classical> and it's work very slow
[16:36] <icenova> thanks anyway !
[16:36] <classical> what is problem ?  :s
[16:37] <crescendo> o/
[16:38] <nanotube> !hi | crescendo
[16:38] <ndrwc> alright, reading the backports info is rather confusing... if a package exists in jaunty and a fix will be released in karmic, does that mean that the relevant fix should appear in backports or updates? how do I request <whatever> needs to happen?
[16:40] <crescendo> I'm trying to resize (shrink) a LUKS partition, but all the tutorials I can find are over a year old, and some commands are failing. Can I solicit some remote-access help from someone? :P
[16:40] <icenova> no one helps me there :(
[16:41] <michLinuxGuy> icenova: I find I can buy a pre-built machine cheaper than building one.
[16:41] <icenova> really ?
[16:41] <icenova> but i just need some of the parts
[16:41] <michLinuxGuy> I bought an e-machines box at costco with an LCD monitor for $400 (US).
[16:42] <avoozl> I'm getting bitten by 'Corrupted MAC on input' when transferring large files over ssh, the symtpoms seem to correspond to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/60764 but for me the workaround to disable rx/tx checksumming through ethtool does not work
[16:42] <avoozl> somehow ethtool -K eth0 tx off  does not give any errors but still keeps the setting 'on'
[16:42] <dajhorn> ndrwc: Not always.   If it is something important, you could try "nominating" the package at Launchpad.
[16:43] <eni23> for get lame running faster i need fast cpu or more ram?
[16:43] <icenova> cpu
[16:43] <avoozl> [oh and my network card is a nVidia Corporation MCP79 Ethernet (rev b1)]
[16:43] <eni23> it's really 'lame' on a atom server
[16:43] <eni23> thanks
[16:44] <ndrwc> dajhorn: as in "nominate for release"? ok, I'll see what happens...
[16:44] <monlam> SCP stalls when i try to transfer files between my Ubuntu & #Crunchbang system using Wireless card. Ethernet works fine-- Any hints?
[16:44] <eni23> is lame support server-cpu's?
[16:44] <ndrwc> dajhorn: sorry, is that from the bug report or the package?
[16:44] <Krauser_> how to secure SSH against hackers ?
[16:45] <eni23> Krauser_: really
[16:45] <dragonrigs> helo
[16:45] <dajhorn> ndrwc: Look for an appropriate "nominate for release foo" button at the bug page.  Give a good reason for a backport if you do this.
[16:45] <dragonrigs> lo
[16:45] <dragonrigs> lo
[16:45] <dragonrigs> lo
[16:45] <FloodBot2> dragonrigs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:45] <ndrwc> Krauser_: pull out the network cable :P don't have a root login, have strong passwords
[16:45] <eni23> when you have a secure pw/aut-keys
[16:45] <Krauser_> ndrwc, :) it has to have root
[16:45] <Krauser_> 2nd option
[16:46] <Krauser_> passwords aer strong >16 letters including caps small number symbols
[16:46] <genii> Krauser_: A few tactics ... use a strong password.... don't run it on port 22 .... limit login attempts to 3 or less .... don't allow root login by ssh
[16:46] <ndrwc> Krauser_: what, root login in ubuntu? that's silly
[16:46] <avoozl> and run something like sshdfilter
[16:46] <eni23> why not aut ssh with keys. that's much more saver
[16:46] <ndrwc> dajhorn: um.... ok I hit nominate, selected jaunty, submitted and... I'm lost :(
[16:47] <Krauser_> eni23, can u give a link to wich explains how to use key system ?
[16:47] <dajhorn> ndrwc: If you're unfamiliar with this, then find the package page, and open a question instead.
[16:48] <eni23> i only know a link in german. wait, i search something
[16:48] <Krauser_> eni23, english only please :-S
[16:48] <dajhorn> ndrwc: https://answers.launchpad.net/
[16:48] <ndrwc> dajhorn: yes, I'm very unfamiliar with launchpad. There didn't seem to be a comment box
[16:50] <eni23> Krauser_: http://www.debuntu.org/ssh-key-based-authentication
[16:50] <ndrwc> "help with launchpad" is not the same thing as "help with the red tape" :/
[16:50] <eni23> ^^ it's english
[16:52] <gladiator> hi .. i am trying to setup mysql on my system .. i installed mysql client and mysql server packages ... but i am getting "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)" when i try to do mysql -u root
[16:52] <gladiator> any suggestions?
[16:52] <nicolah> hi guys, how do I reach "smb://supermachine/c/" using the terminal ? "cd smb://supermachine/c/" doesn't work
[16:52] <moncky> gladiator: have you started the server? /etc/initd.d/mysqld start
[16:53] <monitor> oi
[16:53] <Krauser_> eni23, thanx for that
[16:53] <monitor> FOCK ALL
[16:53] <Josh_> nicolah, smb:// is a samba protocol. You'll need to connect to your 'supermachine' with samba
[16:54] <monitor> samba yer
[16:54] <monitor> merda
[16:54] <ndrwc> nicolah: smbclient, smbget etc.
[16:54] <monitor> puta que pario
[16:54] <monitor> sua mãe
[16:54] <gladiator> moncky: yes. it fails
[16:54] <genii> nicolah: http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/courses/build/net-admin/ch08s02.html
[16:54] <monitor> otario
[16:54] <monitor> idiota
[16:54] <FloodBot2> monitor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:54] <monitor> meu pau
[16:54] <sipior> monitor: you off your meds?
[16:54] <moncky> gladiator: it fails to start? what do the logs say?
[16:55] <gladiator> moncky: /var/log/mysql.log and /var/log/mysql.err are both empty
[16:55] <mads-> Hi. I have a ubuntu live cd which for some reason will not start X. Is it possible with this to install ubuntu over the internet or something? I can boot it up and I have access to tty. I am not able to make anymore CDs or USB disks
[16:55] <moncky> gladiator: what about /var/log/messages
[16:55] <Beefcaked> hi guys maybe you can help me.... ubuntu is using more power in this laptop than vista had
[16:55] <eni23> gladiator: what says /etc/init.d/mysql start?
[16:56] <hporse> hi. i've got a fresh kubuntu installation here and the first thing i recognize is, that the keyboard is broken under X, but not in the tty consoles. any idea how i could fix this?
[16:56] <gladiator> eni23: nothing there either..
[16:56] <Trijntje> Beefcaked: install and run powertop
[16:56] <abys> hi somebody who can help me with css that crashes when i use wine
[16:56] <Spkr2Cmputrs_> From time to time, my computer will freeze up and the capslock light will blink on and off.  Sometimes the screen will blank, sometimes not.  I can find no pattern in when it occurs.
[16:56] <monne> Can anybody tell me how to dial a DSL connection from while using WLAN in Ubuntu?
[16:56] <geekaia> I'm have some problems to install nvidia driver on kernel 2.6.31
[16:56] <Trijntje> mads: I think its better to fix X before installing ubuntu. Otherwise it wont work anyway
[16:56] <monne> I can only dial DSL from Wired and not from Wireless
[16:56] <Beefcaked> Trijntje: thank you. does ubuntu have something like hardware profiling in windows where in i can set to a hardware profile where some of my devices are disabled?
[16:56] <geekaia>  I have runned the nvidia installer  ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-185.18.36-pkg1.run
[16:56] <bastid_raZor> Spkr2Cmputrs_: i believe that is a kernel panic
[16:56] <geekaia>  and it has returned to me
[16:57] <gladiator> moncky, eni23: is there a way to completely uninstall and reinstall mysql again? i tried apt get purge but that doesnt seem to remove all the data either...
[16:57] <ndrwc> geekaia: you have restricted kernel modules?
[16:57] <avoozl> geekaia: it is easier to install them from the nvidia-vdpau ppa
[16:57] <geekaia> some erros
[16:57] <avoozl> geekaia: then it is packages
[16:57] <Spkr2Cmputrs_> What is a kernel panic?
[16:57] <avoozl> geekaia: packaged even
[16:57] <nicolah> thanks
[16:57] <eni23> gladiator: have you tried to stop mysql via init.d
[16:57] <eni23> ?
[16:57] <Beefcaked> Spkr2Cmputrs_: i dont know exactly, but the kernel is an integral part of the operating system... so it panicking must be really bad
[16:58] <moncky> gladiator: apt-get remove <package>
[16:58] <nameless|> I seem to be having a problem installing ubuntu 8.03 i386 server edition. I can get to the ubuntu boot screen with the options to install, check the cd and memory, etc... When I select install it takes me to a language selection screen and my system seems to freeze up. I can't select anything
[16:58] <gladiator> eni23: stop says [OK] start says [fail]
[16:58] <geekaia> my log files apears as :
[16:58] <geekaia> ERROR: The runtime configuration check failed for the library
[16:58] <geekaia>        'libnvidia-tls.so.185.18.36' (expected:
[16:58] <geekaia>        '/usr/lib/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1', found:
[16:58] <geekaia>        '/usr/lib/libnvidia-tls.so.1
[16:58] <Trijntje> Beefcaked: I'm not sure. btw, the changes powertop makes don't last, so you have to keep it running
[16:58] <FloodBot2> geekaia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:59] <hporse> a
[16:59] <icenova> hey guys btw
[16:59] <LouisT> Hi, can someone help me fix a nvidia driver error? when ever i start up, it gives an error and needs to use the "low graphics mode", and i looked at the error and it says it's unable to load the kernel module.. but, when i try to install nvidia drivers, it always goes to xorg failsafe.. but when i 1st installed the driver, all it showed was a little line with the ubuntu background colours at the top, and when i moved my mouse i could see it some
[16:59] <eni23> gladiator: ls -la /var/run/mysqld/ ? what files you see and what rigths
[16:59] <eni23> ?
[16:59] <bastid_raZor> geekaia: you should be install the nvidia driver from a TTY while X has been stopped.
[16:59] <icenova> on my mac g5, with os x 10.4, when i insert my frozen throne cd and open it, it says missing string 1059
[16:59] <icenova> what is that ?
[16:59] <geekaia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/271533/
[16:59] <miranda82> hey guys, anyone knows how to completely CLEAR my whole evolution calendar?
[17:00] <geekaia> Yes
[17:00] <nameless|> I seem to be having a problem installing ubuntu 8.03 i386 server edition. I can get to the ubuntu boot screen with the options to install, check the cd and memory, etc... When I select install it takes me to a language selection screen and my system seems to freeze up. I can't select anything
[17:00] <geirha> nameless|: Can't remember how the server install looks, but in the typical TUI interfaces you use the tab key to move between boxes and buttons
[17:00] <geekaia> I was tried this
[17:00] <bastid_raZor> icenova: that has nothing to do with #ubuntu.
[17:00] <ndrwc> LouisT: what's your hardware? I had that problem on my laptop, BIOS was mapping the video memory incorrectly
[17:00] <gladiator> eni23: no such directory
[17:00] <nameless|> geirha: yeah, I tried that and it didn't work. It's like my system stopped recognizing my keyboard?
[17:00] <eni23> oh..
[17:00] <mgmuscari> i need some GENERAL computer help - it isn't ubuntu related but my nice $2000 thinkpad running ubuntu has succumbed to the stupid flea infestation that i arrived to when i moved into a house for school... does anybody know what might be a good solution? i apologize for the off-topic question but maybe i can answer an ubuntu question for someone while i'm here
[17:00] <geekaia> but it was returned to me http://paste.ubuntu.com/271533/
[17:01] <LouisT> ndrwc: it's a desktop, but what kind of info do you need?
[17:01] <geekaia> after an apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:01] <geekaia> anyone
[17:01] <icenova> bastid_raZor, your right srry, but they cant help me on mac channel T_T
[17:01] <geekaia> know how to solve this problem
[17:01] <Beefcaked> Trijntje: ive installed powertop through synaptic... how do i use this?
[17:01] <geekaia> ??
[17:01] <ndrwc> LouisT: I have no idea :P but gpu info, drivers version
[17:01] <Myrtti> !helpme | geekaia
[17:01] <Trijntje> Beefcaked: run sudo powertop in a !terminal
[17:01] <eni23> gladiator: your mysql installation really looks weird.
[17:02] <mgmuscari> geekaia - i'm guessing you've checked your system for third-party opengl packages...
[17:02] <geirha> nameless|: Does the leds toggle if you hit Caps lock/Scroll lock? Does alt+F2 work?
[17:02] <gladiator> eni23: no sorry .. drwxr-xr-x  2 mysql root and ...  drwxr-xr-x 23 root  root
[17:02] <Beefcaked> a ! terminal? did you mean to put ! before terminal because it should mean something different?
[17:02] <nameless|> geirha: I didn't try those, but the num lock led did not toggle
[17:02] <LouisT> ndrwc: i have a failsafeX-backup file, i assume it has the errors in it..
[17:02] <geekaia> what is the packages what i need to install?
[17:02] <ndrwc> !terminal | Beefcaked
[17:02] <Trijntje> Beefcaked: no, just terminal ;) But if you type !terminal here the ubottu bot will tell you where to find it.
[17:02] <ndrwc> ... like that :)
[17:02] <LouisT> how would i get the GPU info, ndrwc?
[17:03] <geirha> nameless|: Then it seems it doesn't handle the keyboard, indeed. Is it usb or ps2?
[17:03] <ndrwc> LouisT: ... what model card is it, if you know?
[17:03] <eni23> gladiator: try to start mysql and watch this directory
[17:03] <Trijntje> ndrwc: nice teamwork ;)
[17:03] <gladiator> eni23: sorry again .. these are just directory navigation directories :S
[17:03] <mgmuscari> geekaia: the install script is failing because it's suggesting that you have some conflicting libraries
[17:03] <Beefcaked> oh okay, lol, that confused me. im new to linux so i thought running sudo powertop in a terminal with a ! meant something else, haha
[17:03] <LouisT> no idea, ndrwc
[17:03] <bastid_raZor> LouisT: lscpi | grep VGA
[17:03] <nameless|> geirha: it is PS2. It works fine before it gets to the actual install part
[17:03] <mgmuscari> geekaia: run synaptic and search for opengl, make sure you don't have any third-party packages selected, and if you do, do a remove completely on them. then try your driver install again
[17:03] <ndrwc> hrm, I find it hard to remember things this early
[17:04] <LouisT> bastid_raZor: bash: lscpi: command not found
[17:04] <ndrwc> LouisT: try lspci
[17:04] <bastid_raZor> LouisT: i typoed.. lspci
[17:04] <Beefcaked> Trijntje: i have it running and i enabled the USB auto suspend. its reporting that an i915@pci is topping the interrupt list. of course.. keyboard and mouse
[17:04] <mgmuscari> anybody have any ideas for laptop flea control that won't void my warrant? :D
[17:04] <mgmuscari> warranty, that is
[17:04] <adalal> laptop flea?
[17:04] <ndrwc> mgmuscari: define fleas
[17:04] <avoozl> hm it seems that when i use a 2.6.31 kernel, i can work around the mac errors by using ethtool -K eth0 tx off rx off     .. now that is kind of strange isn't it.. it would almost seem like a nasty driver bug in the checksum offloading
[17:04] <geirha> nameless|: Hm. ps2 keyboards are "rock solid" in linux by my experience, so maybe it's not the keyboard after all, but a kernel freeze. Might be you need to supply some boot options. Not sure where to begin though
[17:05] <LouisT> ndrwc: 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51G [GeForce 6100] (rev a2)
 Thanks
[17:05] <Lartza_> Anyone experienced with icecast?
[17:05] <geekaia> I go try this
[17:05] <hrab> Anyone got any prospects on when flash won't won't be a complete turd in buntu?
[17:05] <mgmuscari> adalal: i moved into a house with 3 cats, and lo and behold, the girl that moved out of the room i moved into left a terrible flea infestation that has spread to my laptop and desktop. i don't care about the desktop so much but my thinkpad is still very new :'(
[17:05] <Lartza_> I need help with couple of stuff, first how do I change the server stats, admin, location etc.
[17:05] <Trijntje> Beefcaked: that your graphic card i think, 3D effects
[17:05] <Lartza_> Second why are my client_connections and connections rising all the time
[17:05] <adalal> mgmuscari: oh, so literally a flea
[17:05] <nameless|> geirha: lol, neither do I. I don't know what I did different (I don't think I did anything different) but it's working now (I went to check the LED's and they responded this time)
[17:06] <Trijntje> Beefcaked: you can google it to see how to disble it, lots of people have that
[17:06] <mgmuscari> adalal: yes, lol
[17:06] <nameless|> I think it's just time for a newer system
[17:06] <Beefcaked> Trijntje: mmm. i have aero on vista on all the time but it still lasts so much longer. 1:30hours on vista but only 30 minutes on ubuntu.
[17:06] <mgmuscari> adalal: i think these are OSS fleas. maybe the girl installed them in the house through an unauthenticated apt repository
[17:06] <Beefcaked> its weird because i had the idea that ubuntu would be less intensive on the system and therefore outlast vista in power savings
[17:06] <geirha> nameless|: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[17:06] <avoozl> hm no i stand corrected.. it just took a little longer for the errors to occur :(
[17:06] <ndrwc> mgmuscari: soak it in isopropyl alcohol? :P
[17:06] <Lartza_> !icecast
[17:06] <avoozl> bah this means i can't use this machine at all
[17:06] <Lartza_> !icecast2
[17:07] <Trijntje> Beefcaked: i'm not sure, it might be a buggy driver. How many cpu states can you see in powertop?
[17:07] <mgmuscari> man, that sounds like it'll void my warranty...
[17:07] <nameless|> geirha: thanks
[17:07] <sicks> mgmuscari:  dont worry about fleas in your computers unless you cool them with blood, kill them everywhere else and the computer fleas will die off.
[17:07] <ndrwc> mgmuscari: or seal it in a plastic bag and use a strong vacuum pump
[17:07] <Pici> !ot
[17:07] <mgmuscari> sicks: thanks. dealt with this before?
[17:07] <geirha> nameless|: working, you mean you can select languages now?
[17:07] <mgmuscari> ndrwc: also a good idea
[17:07] <Beefcaked> Trijntje: sorry, i dont know what a cpu state is?
[17:07] <shos> ooh, there are bubbles in my bowels
[17:07] <shos> sry wrong window :p
[17:07] <ChrizC> hey - I'm guessing there's atleast one person in here who uses Pidgin on Ubuntu. Whenever I sign into MSN, I get between 15 and 20 messages saying "MSN Error: Friendly Name Changes Too Fast." how do I stop that? (I know it's not exactly Ubuntu-related but I don't think pidgin has a support channel this large)
[17:08] <ndrwc> mgmuscari: however I would suggest apt-get remove cat && apt-get install fleapowder :P
[17:08] <adalal> mgmuscari: like the other person said, jus clear it off everywhere else..
[17:08] <nameless|> geirha: yes
[17:08] <Trijntje> Beefcaked: thats how fast your cpu is working, C1 is full speed, C4 is low speed. Low speed uses little power.
[17:08] <adalal> mgmuscari: it's like pollution.. the solution to pollution is diffusion :P
[17:08] <geirha> nameless|: Must be the positive energy flowing out from #ubuntu
[17:08] <nameless|> geirha: but I'm running into errors about no kernel modules being on the cd or something
[17:08] <mgmuscari> ndrwc: i wish! terminix is coming tomorrow... i hear that the stuff is bad for plastic/electronics so i don't want to leave it to be bombed. anyway, thanks for the advice. i'll drop the topic so that i don't get OT'd again
[17:09] <LouisT> ndrwc: did you see my last message?
[17:09] <Beefcaked> Trijntje: im using a celeron. I have c0 (cpu running), another c0 and c1, c2, c3 on (mwait running0
[17:09] <ndrwc> LouisT: yes... so a 6100, as in, old?
[17:09] <LouisT> yea
[17:09] <Beefcaked> err, just mwait, no 'running'
[17:09] <mgmuscari> anybody here running a 1920x1200 display?
[17:10] <Trijntje> Beefcaked: if you dont see C4 somewhere in the powertop screen you should be able to enable these options in you bios. I have to go now, googling ubuntu powertop should give you a lot of information
[17:10] <miranda82> hey guys, anyone knows how to completely CLEAR my whole evolution calendar?
[17:10] <LouisT> ndrwc: any idea on what i should do? =/
[17:10] <ndrwc> LouisT: I have a similar-ish card somewhere....
[17:10] <Lartza_> mgmuscari, not me but why do you ask?
[17:10] <geirha> nameless|: Does it halt the installer? or is it just warnings passing by?
[17:11] <ndrwc> LouisT: ok I have a 6200, seems to work ok
[17:11] <miranda82> answer is: rm ~/.evolution/calendar/local/system/calendar.ics
[17:11] <Beefcaked> Trijntje: btw.. im currently doing everything powertop asks me to do. the thing you said earlier.. do you mean i have to do this stuff again so i save power the next time?
[17:11] <mgmuscari> i am plagued by a graphically corrupted usplash whenever i boot my pc and try to use 1920x1200 (native) resolution for it
[17:11] <nameless|> geirha: it gives me an option to continue install without loading kernel modules and then gives me an error about not detecting network interface stuff
[17:11] <cheftux> anyone using itunes with ubuntu? i could use some help
[17:11] <Beefcaked> Trijntje: oh okay, thank you very much, i appreciate the help!:)
[17:12] <Vinceman> how do you activate xine in mozilla firefox?
[17:12] <mgmuscari> cheftux: why are you trying to use itunes with ubuntu? are you running it through wine or something?
[17:12] <Lartza_> mgmuscati: Stretched?
[17:12] <cheftux> attempting to mgmuscari but its not working
[17:12] <nameless|> geirha: it fails the step Detec network hardware
[17:12] <Lartza_> cheftux: Don't use iTunes
[17:12] <cheftux> i've tried wine, and using sun virtualbox
[17:12] <mgmuscari> yes, but not gracefully. instead of scaling the splash screen, it repeats bits of it in choppy vertical stripes
[17:12] <jshultz> virtualbox is better
[17:12] <cheftux> i have an iphone and i need to sync with itunes, unless you know another way
[17:12] <mgmuscari> looks kind of like 'uu b unn tu'
[17:13] <jshultz> i wouldn't play music from itunes via VB.
[17:13] <Lartza_> jshultz: FOr what?
[17:13] <jshultz> use banshee isntead
[17:13] <LouisT> ndrwc: the thing is, it worked when i used ubuntu 8.04, but then i upgraded to 8.10 and then it started doing that, so i installed the newest drivers from nvidia using the .run they have, and it made it start using the failsafe, so then i downloaded and burned a copy of ubuntu 9.04 and installed it, and then it said to install the nvidia drivers using the "Hardware Drivers" program, i did that and it started doing the line thing again..
[17:13] <geirha> nameless|: Ok, so it's unable to find a driver for your network card then. Do you know what network card(s) it has?
[17:13] <Lartza_> mgmuscari: Hmmm...
[17:13] <mgmuscari> cheftux, there's some rudimentary support in other packages i believe... although i never sync my iphone period because i have it jailbroken :p
[17:13] <ndrwc> LouisT: uhh....
[17:13] <Lartza_> mgmuscari: Jaunty I assume?
[17:13] <cheftux> if i use banshee will it sync my iphone like in tunes and i really don't want to jailbreak my phone
[17:13] <jshultz> no
[17:14] <nameless|> geirha: it's part of the mobo. Not sure what model it is. Whatever they put in the HP Pavilion a1130n
[17:14] <hrab> Is there a way to turn off the xxxx has joined/left notifications in Konversation?
[17:14] <ndrwc> ok, if anyone can tell me how to work out what version of the nvidia drivers i have via cli..
[17:14] <cheftux> see the whole point of itunes is getting my music off my old account and transfering it onto the new computer
[17:14] <mgmuscari> cheftux: you don't have to jailbreak it, i'm just saying that i don't bother using any sync features that can't be done OTA
[17:14] <icarus> so i just deleted a lot of files how do i get them back?
[17:14] <mgmuscari> cheftux: i hope that the music isn't music you bought through the itunes store... DRM sucks
[17:15] <jshultz> here's what i did, and it's a crappy solution. my music is hosted locally. i have a vm with a stripped down winxp that i use for itunes and adobe cs4. itunes runs like crap in a vm though for some reason. but anyway, it pulls the music via a shared folder through vb. it syncs with with my ipod that way.
[17:15] <ndrwc> hrm
[17:15] <Lartza_> mgmuscari: You can buy them DRM free though
[17:15] <Lartza_> idjc
[17:15] <mgmuscari> icarus: check your trash...
[17:15] <Lartza_> Woops
[17:15] <jshultz> i have the 3.1 firmware which apparently hasnt' been jailbroken yet.
[17:15] <cheftux> lol least it works though
[17:15] <mgmuscari> lartza_: well, not everything. unless they've changed it recently... i haven't used it in a while...
[17:15] <cheftux> thanks guys!
[17:15] <Vinceman> does anyone ever play MOV-files on there linux system?
[17:15] <Vinceman> their*
[17:15] <ndrwc> LouisT: I assume that I have 180, on a 6200
[17:15] <LouisT> ndrwc: i can see mine in /var/log/nvidia-installer.log, but idk if that helps
[17:16] <Lartza_> mgmuscari: iTunes Plus, you can even convert your DRM songs to DRM free
[17:16] <LouisT> ndrwc: well, when i installed using "Hardware Drivers", it installed 180... =/
[17:16] <geirha> nameless|: Hm. Google or the manual might know. I don't :)
[17:16] <ndrwc> LouisT: I think I've just been able to put them in via the restricted hardware drivers app
[17:16] <icarus> mgmuscari, i wish it was that simple but the files are not there due to the files being on a portable device when they were deleted
[17:16] <mgmuscari> that's a step in the right direction
[17:17] <mgmuscari> icarus: check the trash on the device. depends on the filesystem of the device
[17:17] <mgmuscari> you could unmount it
[17:17] <nameless|> geirha: MSI MS-7093
[17:17] <Lartza_> icarus: YOu mgiht not get them back
[17:17] <mgmuscari> then mount it as read only. that way you won't risk overwriting things that are still there
[17:17] <LouisT> ndrwc: when i go into that, it says i have 180, it's acivated, and currently in use...
[17:18] <ndrwc> LouisT: it's difficult to track down the problem unless you can find someone who's had the same symptoms and described in a way you're searching for
[17:18] <icarus> i cant find the trash folder
[17:18] <LouisT> yea, i've asked others that i know about it, but they have no idea =/
[17:18] <ndrwc> mine was that I needed to do a bios update, highly obscure bug specific to my laptop model
[17:18] <aaron11> speedball
[17:19] <ndrwc> LouisT: oh, is this onboard?
[17:19] <n-iCe> i want to make my external vga port a separate tty on my laptop and redirect xbmc
[17:19] <LouisT> ndrwc: what do you mean?
[17:19] <Sp0tter> Is it possible to use a dual head setup that uses a monitor from both an nvidia card and one from an ATI card as a multiview setup using xrandr?
[17:19] <n-iCe> i'm not sure how to make the external port a separate tty, or how to redirect xbmc's output
[17:19] <n-iCe> xbmc: rtfm
[17:19] <n-iCe> tty: googled, no luck
[17:19] <ndrwc> LouisT: as in, on the motherboard or PCI/AGP/whatever expansion card?
[17:19] <mgmuscari> sp0tter, you're running both of those in the same box?
[17:19] <jonne> does anyone know why skype would start up twice without being in startup applications?
[17:19] <LouisT> yea
[17:19] <jonne> and session saving is off
[17:20] <ndrwc> LouisT: yes which? :)
[17:20] <aaron11> does anyone know why my application menu is wiped out
[17:20] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, yes
[17:20] <mgmuscari> sp0tter: and you don't have any trouble running both of those kernel modules?
[17:20] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, I'm asking if its possible, i havent bought the 2nd card yet
[17:21] <LouisT> i assume the motherboard, on the from of the tower it says it has a PCI expansion slot however
[17:21] <Sp0tter> thinking of getting this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121320
[17:21] <icarus> so how do i recover my files?
[17:21] <Sp0tter> I just wish I knew if you could use the hdmi and dvi out at the same tiem on that one
[17:21] <mgmuscari> sp0tter: i myself would never even attempt to run such a setup, considering how hard it is to even get fglrx working correctly...
[17:21] <keith_hanson> hm... any macbook users here? I'm using the AwesomeWM, and can't seem to get my audio to work.
[17:21] <n-iCe> i want to make my external vga port a separate tty on my laptop and redirect xbmc
[17:21] <mgmuscari> why would you buy a second graphics card from a different vendor?
[17:21] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari,  It's not hard at all to get fglrx working..
[17:21] <n-iCe> i'm not sure how to make the external port a separate tty, or how to redirect xbmc's output
[17:21] <n-iCe> xbmc: rtfm
[17:21] <n-iCe> tty: googled, no luck
[17:21] <ndrwc> LouisT: ok, might be best to do some more searching for "nividia", "linux", "6100", and your motherboard :(
[17:21] <FloodBot2> n-iCe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:21] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, because nvidia cards support CUDA
[17:22] <Grenage> fglrx is incredibly tempremental.
[17:22] <mgmuscari> sp0tter: depends on what your graphics chipset is... takes some finagling to get things running correctly on my laptop, for example
[17:22] <ndrwc> keith_hanson: which revision?
[17:22] <Sp0tter> fglrx works fine for me, but with my motherboard you can only use dvi OR hdmi out, and I need dual digital outputs
[17:22] <mgmuscari> sp0tter: so why don't you ditch the ati card?
[17:22] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, its onboard.. and free to use
[17:23] <mgmuscari> disable it and buy a card with two dvi ports
[17:23] <Grenage> Dual port Nvidia not an option?
[17:23] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, you are not helpful at all :)
[17:23] <gladiator> moncky, eni23: i removed everything named mysql and reinstalled both server and client
[17:23] <mgmuscari> i guess you're looking for the xTreme budget solution
[17:23] <Sp0tter> Grenage, Id' like to use 3 eventually
[17:23] <gladiator> still the same problem
[17:23] <Grenage> Ah I see
[17:23] <mgmuscari> sp0tter: want to buy an ati x1800xt cheap?
[17:23] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, no.
[17:24] <keith_hanson> ndrwc: Of ubuntu or Awesome? Ubuntu Jaunty, macbook 1,1, and Awesome release "Faith"
[17:24] <Grenage> I've only run two screens with one nvidia card, I am afraid.
[17:24] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, if you don't know.. why cant you just say "i have no idea" instead of trying to offer different solutions than the one im' asking about
[17:24] <demonspork> none of the icon sets I am installing seem to work, the icons changed, but they stay the same change (a theme I didn't install) no matter what set I install
[17:24] <aaron11> helo i have ubuntu jaunty and my applications menu is compleetly wipped out my updates didnt have enough space so it said to run sudo apt-get clear or clean please do help me do i need to not use wubi is there a simpler way? please do help me!
[17:24] <Sp0tter> Grenage, I'm running two screens on the build in ati hd4200 right now, but only one is digital out  and the analog is killing my eyeballs
[17:25] <MFen> how do i make gaim use ff3.5 when i click a link?
[17:25] <MFen> i have both 3.0 and 3.5 installed, and i want to use only 3.5
[17:25] <ndrwc> keith_hanson: only stuff i can find on a macbook 1,1 is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook1-1/Hardy sorry :( have you had sound working in other WMs/releases?
[17:25] <Grenage> I see, is it a poor refresh rate?
[17:26] <VCoolio> MFen: do you have 3.5 as default browser? or does gaim have prefs for that?
[17:26] <mgmuscari> i would use the word pedantic, but that would be the pot calling the kettle black in my case, so i'll just capitulate and say that i really don't know whether you could make that work. my educated guess would be, "no," and i wouldn't purchase a piece of hardware and try to make it work
[17:26] <Sp0tter> nah, then analog out just has ghosting and you have to hit the AUTO focus button everyrime you turn it on (or siwtch the kvm)
[17:26] <MFen> VCoolio: i don't even know what "default browser" means in gnome. if gaim has prefs for it, then that's what i'd like to find out about
[17:26] <Sp0tter> the newer cheap lcd monitors don't do well with analog above 19"
[17:26] <mgmuscari> i mean, it may be possible, but it probably depends on the exact chipsets of each card, and which driver module you use... you might do better with the open source ati drivers than with fglrx
[17:27] <VCoolio> MFen: in system>preferences>preferred applications you can set your default browser
[17:27] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, the open source one radeonhd is incredibly slower than fglrx
[17:27] <MFen> aha, preferred applications (accessible through gaim > preferences > network)
[17:27] <Grenage> Gotcha, I would throw wy work ATI into the Nvidia and test it for you, but I wouldn't get a chance until next week.
[17:27] <keith_hanson> ndrwc: Yes. Gnome seems to have the sound working, though I'm somewhat newbish and can't figure out what is starting up so that I can setup the same things in Awesome
[17:27] <mgmuscari> sp0tter: are you planning to use this for 3d applications?
[17:27] <keith_hanson> ndrwc: Thanks btw :)
[17:27] <Pici> aaron11: What do you mean by 'wipped out'? Can you explain it in other words?
[17:27] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, yes
[17:27] <ndrwc> well, I will continue stumbling through launchpad until I get emails etc. informing me how to do things properly :P
[17:27] <MFen> yep, that worked
[17:27] <MFen> thanks :)
[17:28] <younder> There is a Crome development version out for ubuntu
[17:28] <mgmuscari> sp0tter: don't you think that running both the nvidia and ati kernel modules concurrently, and moreover trying to get them to communicate in some way will incur massive overhead?
[17:28] <ndrwc> aaron11: you could try wiping your panels....
[17:28] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, no
[17:28] <geirha> nameless|: Apparently that MB has Realtek RTL8100C NIC, which Ubuntu should have a driver for. So that's a bit odd.
[17:28] <mgmuscari> sp0tter: why not?
[17:28] <aaron11> Pici it shows nothing no 'accsesories' no 'programming' like that
[17:28] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, why would it?
[17:28] <aaron11> ndrwc what do you mean
[17:29] <Pici> aaron11: Do you have any panels? Do you see Applications, Places and System at the top left at all?
[17:29] <ndrwc> aaron11: how about right-click and edit menus? otherwise delete your panels preferences
[17:29] <mgmuscari> it strikes me that you probably won't be able to reach the level of customization that it would take to avoid any kinds of collisions, especially in terms of memory addressing and other low level stuff
[17:29] <Grenage> If the screens are independant, it 'should' be ok.
[17:29] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, that makes zero sense :)     memory addressing has nothing to do with ati vs nvidia
[17:29] <aaron11> Pici yes
[17:29] <mgmuscari> memory addressing has everything to do with where data goes when it's trying to go to the cards...
[17:30] <aaron11> Pici but if you click applications nothing comes
[17:30] <Sp0tter> Grenage, from what I understand the screens are independent but xrandr connects them on a virtual screen
[17:30] <LouisT> oh, he left..
[17:30] <aaron11> Pici if you click places or system it works
[17:30] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, I'm sorry but I disagree with you completly.  Yuo are making vague irrelivant statements my friend.
[17:30] <Grenage> mm then it would be a suck it and see, there may be some overhead.
[17:30] <mgmuscari> i mean, one fundamental issue that i can think of right off the bat is that they'll compete for other libraries like opengl and stuff
[17:30] <ndrwc> Sp0tter: the question is can the bios allocate memory for both cards
[17:31] <Pici> aaron11: Can you open a terminal and run: update-menus
[17:31] <ndrwc> does it work in <some other OS>?
[17:31] <Grenage> the BIOS can no worries.
[17:31] <Sp0tter> ndrwc, of course it can...
[17:31] <mgmuscari> sp0tter: why would one assume that "of course" it can?
[17:31] <Sp0tter> sure, in windows you can use any multiple cards for a dual head setup
[17:32] <aaron11> Pici no
[17:32] <Pici> aaron11: no you can't do that, or no it didn't work?
[17:32] <mgmuscari> well, whatever, i'll concede defeat, leave this to the systems guys, and limit my expertise to theory...
[17:32] <aaron11> Pici it didnt wrk
[17:33] <syslq> amd_x64? Will it work on intels? I dont see any other x64 download
[17:33] <ndrwc> mgmuscari: I have to say from personal experience though, what windows works with and how the bios maps memory can be totally different things...
[17:34] <mgmuscari> ndrwc: that's another good point
[17:34] <Pici> aaron11: Can you run: alacarte and see if there is anything available to be checked for the applications menu?
[17:34] <aaron11> Pici do u run that in a terminal
[17:34] <ndrwc> Sp0tter: I think your best chance of getting anywhere is to start with one card, get it working, and try adding the second
[17:34] <Pici> aaron11: Doesn't matter, its a gui application
[17:35] <Loder3331> Does anyone know how to boot fedora on top of vista and ubuntu?
[17:35] <aaron11> no
[17:35] <aaron11> Pici its not gui
[17:35] <mgmuscari> ndrwc: it sounds like he's already running an integrated ati chipset and wants to add a pci express video card on top
[17:35] <Pici> aaron11: alacarte is a gui application.
[17:35] <mgmuscari> and understandably doesn't want to blow $55 to find out that it doesn't work
[17:36] <Sp0tter> Loader sure.  Copy your /boot/grub/menu.lst file down and then install fedora on a new partition, and then added the entries to the new menu.lst from the old one
[17:36] <librenes> Loder333-> on top as you mean a virtual guest running on fedora or windows?
[17:36] <ndrwc> mgmuscari: ahh ok, so the hardware hasn't been purchased yet... Sp0tter be prepared to buy a new system for your CUDA card if it doesn't work :P
[17:36] <Loder3331> sorry I meant triple boot
[17:36] <Sp0tter> ndrwc, well I have another nvidia card here I can test with, I guess thats what I need to do
[17:37] <Loder3331> I think spotter has the right idea of what I want to do
[17:37] <mgmuscari> Loder: no problem, as long as you have some free partitions
[17:37] <librenes> Loder333-> then thats easy..yeah per Sp0tter
[17:37] <mgv1> how can i add more sets of sounds to ubuntu?
[17:37] <Pici> aaron11: What was the last thing you did before this broke?
[17:37] <Loder3331> I have already freed 80gb for fedora
[17:37] <Sp0tter> Loder333, It's pretty simople, i did a similar thing yesterday with  ubuntu and arch
[17:37] <mgv1> lets say i'm going to install windoes xp over ubuntu running system. i would i be able to do it and be able to boot ubuntu? do i need to first devide the drive again?
[17:37] <om26er> the package server is down so is there any other way to register the gpg key
[17:37] <ndrwc> Loder3331: assuming the fedora installer lets you install wherever you want and not auto-install grub, easy
[17:37] <Loder3331> I just tried to just put it in there from the fedora dvd, and it didn't work
[17:37] <Qu4R0w> i not try dual boot ubuntu with fedora but ubuntu with suse=ok
[17:37] <mgmuscari> loder: is that space on a separate partition?
[17:37] <Loder3331> It's just unallocated space on the drive
[17:38] <Loder3331> I shrunk my vista drive by an extra 80gb to put fedora in there
[17:38] <Sp0tter> So with my motherboard, it has dvi and hdmi out, but you can only use one of those + the analog.  Are nvidia video cards the same way?
[17:38] <mgmuscari> loder: so it's unpartitioned... no problem
[17:38] <Qu4R0w> mgv1: better install windows first
[17:38] <Loder3331> I chose "free space" as where to install fedora when I was putting it on, and it gave me an error
[17:38] <Sp0tter> Beause if i could use the hdmi->dvi adapter + the dvi  out for a dual head i could forget the  ati card for now
[17:38] <Sp0tter> Loder, what error?
[17:39] <Loder3331> It's a long, long error file
[17:39] <dragonrigs> Pici got my mesage
[17:39] <dragonrigs> pici got disconnected
[17:39] <Loder3331> I read through some of it and I think it said something about not knowing where to put it, but I don't know
[17:39] <harisund> What modifications does Ubuntu do to my Firefox? Why do I see a "Ubuntu Firefox Modifications 0.7" in my Firefox Add-Ons list? Who authorized Ubuntu to do this?
[17:39] <cronoss> hello, i'm wondering if i can change the ctrl-alt-suppr combination to restart my server, in fact the suppr key is not working on the keyboard of the server, is there any way to change it to ctrl-alt-c for example ?
[17:39] <Pici> dragonrigs: What was the last thing that you did before this all broke?
[17:39] <ndrwc> mgv1: try google? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200031
[17:39] <LuciusMare> Hello,anybody here tried ubuntu netbook remix at acer aspire one zg5?
[17:39] <Loder3331> the layout of my drive is like this:  Vista-free space-ubuntu partitions-windows recovery partition
[17:40] <dragonrigs> Pici i ran sudo apt-get clean or clear
[17:40] <mgmuscari> sp0tter: i think that would probably depend on the specific chipset... afaik hdmi and dvi use the same encoding, but whether the card allows two streams to be written out simultaneously on different interfaces i don't know
[17:40] <Pici> dragonrigs: Anything before that?
[17:40] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, yea its not available from nvidia or asus unfortunatly to tell me if it allows it
[17:40] <dragonrigs> mmm no
[17:41] <ruby_on_tails> how can I open rara files on ubuntu ?
[17:41] <mgmuscari> sp0tter: it probably depends on the drivers
[17:41] <ruby_on_tails> .rar*
[17:41] <demonspork> what is the shortcut for the run command dialog box
[17:41] <Qu4R0w> harisund: it become with ubuntu..it is normal
[17:41] <demonspork> I forgot
[17:41] <Pici> cronoss: ctrl-alt-super isn't a key combination that I'ev ever heard of, do you mean ctrl-alt-delete or ctrl-alt-backspace ?
[17:41] <harisund> man Ubuntu is like some Apple among Linuxes. Anybody know what exactly it does?
[17:41] <mgmuscari> super is the windows key
[17:41] <ndrwc> Loder3331: does fedora have an install-from-livecd option the same way ubuntu does?
[17:41] <joeb3_> demonspork, alt f2
[17:41] <Pici> dragonrigs: apt-get clean wouldn't cause issues like this.  Thats why I ask.
[17:42] <cronoss> Pici, yes i mean ctrl-alt-del sorry :)
[17:42] <Qu4R0w> ruby_on_tails: what u run on?
[17:42] <Loder3331> That's what I'm using I think, I burned the iso to a dvd
[17:42] <Pici> !dontzap | cronoss
[17:42] <demonspork> joeb3_, thank you
[17:42] <Loder3331> and booting from that dvd
[17:42] <ruby_on_tails> Qu4R0w: ubuntu ? gnome
[17:42] <Qu4R0w> ruby_on_tails: can u just right click and "extract here"
[17:42] <Pici> !rar | ruby_on_tails
[17:42] <om26er> is there a manual way to register a ppa key the ppa key server is down
[17:43] <bodly> harisund: it adds .deb package handling and sets some defaults.
[17:43] <ruby_on_tails> Qu4R0w: I get this > Archive type not supported.
[17:43] <davidma7685> Where do I find programs that I've closed but are still running? (they're not showing up in the taskbar next to the clock)
[17:43] <cronoss> Pici, i'm not talking about ctrl-alt-backspace, i'm talking about ctrl-alt-del i want to be able to reboot my server in console by another combination
[17:43] <ndrwc> om26er: try man apt-key
[17:44] <bodly> harisund: if you don't like it you can uninstall the package ubufox
[17:44] <Qu4R0w> ruby_on_tails: try apt-cache search rar/unrar
[17:44] <sarah__> #gedit
[17:44] <bin1010> I just plugged in a plantronics USB headset, I want to record off of it.  How do I find where it lives in /dev?
[17:44] <harisund> bodly, ubufox. That's what I wanted to know thank you :)
[17:44] <LuciusMare> anybody here tried ubuntu netbook remix at acer aspire one zg5?
[17:45] <dan> Hello I am having a problem with my sound mplayer and other audio devices keep on getting stuck like a cd player skipping.
[17:45] <ndrwc> bin1010: try lsusb
[17:45] <ruby_on_tails> LuciusMare: I tried on samsung n110
[17:45] <steven__> How can I install Direct3D on Ubuntu?
[17:45] <LuciusMare> ruby_on_tails: cool.but not what i asked...
[17:45] <ndrwc> bin1010: sorry, that's a guess :(
[17:45] <bin1010> Bus 006 Device 003: ID 047f:0ca1 Plantronics, Inc. USB DSP v4 Audio Interface
[17:46] <Qu4R0w> Can i know if Ubuntu have "recognition system"??same with Vista?
[17:46] <mgmuscari> steven__: direct3d is a microsoft library... works under windows...
[17:46] <mgmuscari> i don't think there's a well-supported native implementation of d3d under linux
[17:46] <steven__> I need to get a game to work and it says that I need Direct3D to run it.  Can you please help me get it working?
[17:46] <ubuntu> how can i force mount a scsi hdd
[17:47] <bin1010> I need to find like the /dev/dsp2 type thing.  I am trying to record from ffmpeg
[17:47] <mgmuscari> steven__: use wine
[17:47] <TonyTT> hey anyone into art around here? I need an application like poser which I can use as a reference, any out there for ubuntu?
[17:47] <genii> steven__: Perhaps enquire in ##winehq
[17:47] <steven__> Yes, but how do I get it installed under wine?
[17:47] <harisund> Is there an applet that shows CPU usage as a graph on the Gnome Panel?
[17:47] <mgmuscari> tonytt: have you looked at blender?
[17:47] <ubuntu> how can i force mount a scsi hdd
[17:47] <ndrwc> bin1010: only other thing I can think of is /dev/input/ :/
[17:47] <TonyTT> mgmuscari, no, I will do that now.
[17:47] <Qu4R0w> steven__: what u going to install?
[17:47] <bin1010> k...thanks
[17:47] <JediMaster> what's the name of the program that creates ubuntu/deb packages from source code so you can uninstall them?
[17:47] <steven__> Conquer Online
[17:47] <ndrwc> harisund: system monitor
[17:47] <mgmuscari> steven__: which version of directx?
[17:48] <steven__> I don't have that either
[17:48] <steven__> It only mentioned that I need Direct 3D to get it working
[17:48] <mgmuscari> steven__: direct3d is part of directx
[17:48] <kromar> hi, is it possible to copy my linux to an other disk with gparted?
[17:48] <ubuntu> for some reason i can mount scsi hdd
[17:48] <steven__> It is already installed and patched, it just won't run without Direct3D is all
[17:48] <harisund> ndrwc, Thank you :)
[17:48] <steven__> Ahhhh
[17:48] <steven__> I never knew that
[17:48] <steven__> So how do I get DirectX on my comp then? lol
[17:49] <cocoa117> is that true only root or sudo can use chown to change file's owner?
[17:49] <mgmuscari> steven__: which version of directx do you need to install?
[17:49] <ndrwc> harisund: the "extreme" system monitoring option for a desktop is conky
[17:49] <steven__> Did not say. I guess the more recent, the better
[17:49] <mgmuscari> cocoa117: usually
[17:49] <genii> cocoa117: If the file in question already belongs to a user, they can chown/cmod it all they like
[17:49] <genii> *chmod
[17:49] <mgmuscari> steven__: what game are you trying to run?
[17:49] <steven__> I imagine anything under 8.0 would be bad...
[17:49] <steven__> Conquer Online
[17:49] <dan> How do I run a check to find out whats wrong with my audio players and why they keep getting stuck on a loop like a cd skipping
[17:49] <Pici> cronoss: hm. I suspect it would involve looking at /etc/event.d/control-alt-delete, but I'm not sure how upstart calls that
[17:49] <kromar> hi, is it possible to copy my linux to an other disk with gparted?
[17:50] <bro_> hey guys, can i update my nautilus in hardy to the version from jaunty? i'd like to have the "compact view"
[17:50] <LuciusMare> kromar: why gparted?use cp --archive
[17:50] <cocoa117> genii, i have that trouble when file belong to me but i can't chown to somebody else
[17:50] <LuciusMare> *sudo cp --archive
[17:50] <seidos> bro_: probably but I've never done it
[17:50] <ndrwc> kromar: try it and see :P
[17:50] <JediMaster> kromar: if you have a blank new disk, "dd" is a quick and easy way to copy a disk/partition
[17:50] <LuciusMare> JediMaster: also a possibility
[17:50] <mgmuscari> steven__: start here: http://tinyurl.com/pm2ly8
[17:50] <bro_> hi seidos. i too downgraded to hardy. the video problems are gone now
[17:50] <ndrwc> JediMaster: "quick" is relative to block size :P
[17:50] <kromar> JediMaster: wahts "dd"?
[17:51] <genii> cocoa117: There is a safeguard so that regular users can't chown something to root like a vicious app then run it with those priveleges
[17:51] <LuciusMare> kromar: dd is a program
[17:51] <Qu4R0w> steven__: actually wine not support all .exe
[17:51] <bro_> seidos, just that i got used to some goodies in jaunty, now hardy looks so old...
[17:51] <kromar> JediMaster: but it will work if i copy it with gparted or will i get problems?
[17:51] <cronoss> Pici yes i looked in that file i don't think i can change the combination from there, there is only : start on control-alt-delete ; exec /sbin/shutdown -r now "Control-Alt-Delete pressed"
[17:51] <ndrwc> kromar: block-level file copying
[17:51] <cocoa117> genii, i c
[17:51] <mgmuscari> cocoa117: are you just trying to give someone else access to see it?
[17:51] <LuciusMare> kromar: www.lmgtfy.com/?q=dd
[17:52] <cocoa117> mgmuscari, i was
[17:52] <ubuntu> hey how can i find the hdd on the dev folder
[17:52] <mgmuscari> cocoa117: alternatively, you could modify file permissions to allow them to view, modify, and/or execute the contents of the file
[17:52] <cocoa117> mgmuscari, but never mind, i think i just chown so others can do it
[17:52] <ndrwc> ubuntu: mount
[17:53] <LuciusMare> ndrwc: i think that that was not what he asked for
[17:53] <mgmuscari> cocoa117: that works as long as you're in the sudoers file
[17:53] <ubuntu> ndrwc ?
[17:53] <davidma7685> How can I find a running program that I closed the window for?
[17:53] <ndrwc> ubuntu: what do you mean?
[17:53] <cronoss> Pici, btw thank you for your help :)
[17:53] <ubuntu> am trying to mount a scsi hdd
[17:53] <LuciusMare> ndrwc: i think that he thought about getting a n adress of a device to mount it.
[17:53] <cocoa117> mgmuscari, got it, i always in the sudo file, so never realised i can't chown once i am not
[17:53] <ndrwc> ... gparted?
[17:53] <heoa_> Howc can I control things like in KOrganizer, such as calendar, todos etc, from CLI?
[17:53] <ubuntu> ndrwc let me explain
[17:54] <mgmuscari> what do you mean you're always in the sudo file? you mean you log in as root?
[17:54] <ndrwc> it'd be an sdn if it's scsi
[17:54] <LuciusMare> ndrwc: dmesg...?
[17:54] <Loder3331> Lol, I wonder what happened to the people who were helping me. Is anyone that was helping me with the vista-ubuntu-fedora triple boot? Or does anyone else know how to do it?
[17:54] <ndrwc> LuciusMare: hrm yes
[17:54] <Loder3331> is anyone still around*?
[17:54] <mgmuscari> loder: what are you up to?
[17:54] <Carolus> Buenos dias ¿Alguien habla español?
[17:54] <Loder3331> I'm trying to add fedora
[17:54] <prince_jammys> !es | Carolus
[17:54] <ubuntu> ndrwc i had a server with windows 2000 and crashed but since it has scsi hdd i got another server and used the ubuntu live cd and am trying to see if i can pull any data out of the hdd
[17:54] <Loder3331> I already have vista and ubuntu installed and dual-booting
[17:54] <mgmuscari> loder: why don't you just boot from the cd and install it that way?
[17:55] <Loder3331> I tried and it gave me an error
[17:55] <Loder3331> I created 80gb of free space for fedora
[17:55] <Loder3331> and it didn't work
[17:55] <Carolus> ok gracias
[17:55] <mgmuscari> loder: what was the error. i don't think you told us before
[17:55] <steven__> Man...noone in Wine community can get this to work...haha
[17:55] <mgmuscari> steven__: bronze rating means that it'll run ok. maybe not perfectly, but ok
[17:56] <Loder3331> it said there was a problem and gave me a really long text file which I was given the option to save
[17:56] <Loder3331> I figured I'd try to find out if I'm doing something wrong before I have somebody go through all that
[17:56] <ndrwc> ubuntu: dmesg | grep SCSI ?
[17:56] <mgmuscari> loder: we can't help if you don't tell us what the problem was
[17:56] <ndrwc> Loder3331: so the livecd doesn't have an option to install then? bummer :(
[17:56] <ubuntu> ndrwc
[17:56] <Loder3331> What do you mean, ndrwc?
[17:56] <ubuntu> ndrwc ?
[17:57] <mgmuscari> loder: pastebin the file
[17:57] <MenZa> !tab | mgmuscari
[17:57] <ndrwc> Loder3331: ok the ubuntu livecd has the install option on the desktop as of about hardy IIRC
[17:57] <mgmuscari> MenZa: thanks!
[17:57] <MenZa> mgmuscari: No problem. :)
[17:57] <ubuntu> ndrwc i dont understand
[17:57] <mgmuscari> never realized that would work in pidgin...
[17:58] <ndrwc> ubuntu: in a terminal, "dmesg | grep SCSI"
[17:58] <Loder3331> I was trying to use the fedora livecd (dvd) to install fedora into some unpartitioned space that I freed up for it
[17:58] <MenZa> mgmuscari: I didn't know it did. I'm happy the developers put it in, though.
[17:58] <Loder3331> and it wouldn't let me
[17:58] <mgmuscari> MenZa: that certainly makes it easier...
[17:58] <Loder3331> mgmuscari: I'll have to go save the file first
[17:58] <Loder3331> Is it possible that the arrangement of my partitions could prevent fedora from installing?
[17:59] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: have you tried booting from the cd (not into ubuntu or windows) and installing from there?
[17:59] <Loder3331> That's all I ever tried
[17:59] <ndrwc> Loder3331: I think at this point try #fedora :/
[17:59] <Loder3331> I'm using the dvd
[17:59] <Loder3331> Yeah, I went there first, but they're not very helpful or active
[17:59] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: there is a limit on the number of primary partitions you can have on a disk
[17:59] <MenZa> I'm tempted to agree with ndrwc on this one; it seems like a problem with Fedora, not Ubuntu. Of course, if you can get the logfile, Loder3331, then it might be easier for us to troubleshoot it.
[18:00] <MenZa> Loder3331: And, alternatively, direct you to the correct channels. :)
[18:00] <ndrwc> Loder3331: you're not running past 4 primary partitions are you?
[18:00] <Loder3331> I don't think I am. Is there a way to tell?
[18:00] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: furthermore, if you're trying to let it autoconfigure grub, it'll try to make a primary partition for the boot stuff, afaik. try to point it to your existing /boot
[18:00] <Loder3331> I know that I have two for vista, the regular partition, and a recovery partition
[18:00] <Loder3331> I don't know how many ubuntu uses
[18:00] <ndrwc> Loder3331: gparted again
[18:01] <MenZa> Loder3331: It sounds like you have three primary partitions. A primary partition is required to boot from.
[18:01] <ndrwc> it's amazing how many problems gparted solves... :P
[18:01] <MenZa> Loder3331: Check it with gparted, though.
[18:01] <JediMaster> what's the name of the program that creates ubuntu/deb packages from source code so you can uninstall them?
[18:01] <Loder3331> Does the free space for fedora have to be in any particular place?
[18:01] <Loder3331> Right now, It's between vista and ubuntu
[18:02] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: no, but you know, i find that it's always nice to have a clean partition table
[18:02] <ndrwc> Loder3331: if all else fails put it at the end so it can create an extended... though AFAIK that would also count as a primary
[18:02] <Loder3331> AFAIK?
[18:02] <MenZa> JediMaster: checkinstall does that.
[18:02] <MenZa> Loder3331: "As far as I know"
[18:03] <ndrwc> not sure if it's possible / difficult to convert between primary and extended partitions..,
[18:03] <Loder3331> ah
[18:03] <JediMaster> MenZa: that's the one, thanks
[18:03] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: have you tried making logical volumes?
[18:03] <MenZa> It's impossible, ndrwc.
[18:03] <ndrwc> MenZa: figured as much
[18:03] <speedball> hello aaron11?
[18:03] <Loder3331> I don't know how that works, nor do I know what purpose it would serve, so no
[18:03] <MenZa> You need to remove and create the partition. If you have enough free space, you can create a temporary partition to unload the data on, then copy it back, though.
[18:03] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: you wouldn't hit that primary partition limit with logical volumes
[18:04] <ndrwc> "it's amazing how many problems can be solved with ..." an external hdd
[18:04] <Loder3331> How do I configure a volume to be logical? And which one(s) should I do it do?
[18:04] <Loder3331> do it to*
[18:05] <MenZa> Loder3331: You need to remember that you Logical partitions can't be booted directly from. My suggestion is a /boot partition, which runs as primary. This could run a bootloader to boot both Fedora and Ubuntu.
[18:06] <MenZa> Loder3331: The practicalities might require you to basically nuke your current partition table, unless you have the required space. And know that it might take a long, long time if you need to move partitions around.
[18:06] <Loder3331> right now vista is my /boot partition
[18:06] <gOLDfeesh> !auto-apt
[18:06] <MenZa> Loder3331: And by a long time, I mean several hours.
[18:06] <gOLDfeesh> hmm..
[18:06] <MenZa> Loder3331: Huh?
[18:06] <mgmuscari> you just have to make sure that your /boot is on a primary partition and that your kernel image is also in there
[18:06] <Loder3331> vista is /boot, and when I boot, I choose between vista and ubuntu
[18:06] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: do you mean you're chain loading grub through the vista bootloader?
[18:06] <Loder3331> ubuntu is always selected automatically, but vista is my /boot partition according to gparted, if I remember correctly
[18:06] <mgmuscari> O_o
[18:07] <yunita-> :P
[18:07] <ndrwc> Loder3331: so I assume ubuntu's /boot is on the same partition as the root filesystem...
[18:07] <Loder3331> I wouldn't know, really
[18:07] <MenZa> /boot and a boot flag aren't the same, Loder3331 - /boot is a Linux-specific mountpoint
[18:07] <aaron11> speedball
[18:07] <ndrwc> I wasn't aware that one could set an ntldr entry for a linux partition
[18:07] <speedball> hey
[18:07] <aaron11> speedball: ok
[18:08] <Loder3331> So by creating a /boot partition, when my bootloader comes up, instead of choosing from vista and ubuntu, I could choose from vista, or a sub-menu, or other bootloader or something, from which I could choose ubuntu or fedora?
[18:08] <gOLDfeesh> !nvidia
[18:08] <mgmuscari> ndrwc: i certainly have never been able to get vista's bootloader to point to linux
[18:08] <ndrwc> mgmuscari: I've only seen it done with wubi
[18:08] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: do you see grub when you boot your computer?
[18:08] <Loder3331> yes
[18:08] <Loder3331> black screen with grey text choices?
[18:08] <MenZa> Loder3331: Can you give me an idea of the number/capacity of your harddrive(s), so I can look around and draft up an idea for a partition layout?
[18:08] <younder> Crome for ubuntu rocks.
[18:08] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: so grub is the linux bootloader, and it's located in /boot
[18:08] <Loder3331> one 750gb harddrive
[18:08] <Curtis_B> where is the gedit binary? it's not in /bin
[18:09] <MenZa> Loder3331: I'll have a look around - give me five--ten minutes :)
[18:09] <Loder3331> Thanks
[18:09] <mgmuscari> it would look like this: http://thegabfather.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/grub4kt.jpg
[18:09] <JonJ> Curtis_B: It would probably be in /usr/local/bin/
[18:09] <koh__> How do I go about reading media/data off other partition? eg. Windows
[18:09] <younder> There is still just a development version, and plugins don't work reliably
[18:09] <Curtis_B> thanks JonJ, I thought that space was for software I build on my own...hrm
[18:09] <ndrwc> mgmuscari: I remember doing dodgy things copying the mbr to a file and trying to point XP at it, ended up using a second hdd :/
[18:09] <MenZa> Oh, question - Loder3331, do you have a Windows Vista installation CD, or an OEM recovery CD?
[18:10] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: the windows one would say "Windows Boot Manager" at the top
[18:10] <Loder3331> and similarly to that, where you would choose between the windows OSs after choosing the windows option, in my case, It would read as fedora/ubuntu or something?
[18:10] <Loder3331> No I don't, MenZa
[18:10] <Loder3331> I'm 95% sure I'm booting with grub
[18:10] <aaron11> dog
[18:10] <Loder3331> it looks like the picture
[18:10] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: properly configured, grub will display something like 'Ubuntu' 'Fedora' and 'Windows Vista'
[18:10] <MenZa> Loder3331: Right
[18:10] <Curtis_B> JonJ, fyi, it was /usr/bin
[18:10] <JonJ> Curtis_B: Nah, it's for local software that isn't essential for the system, as far as I can tell
[18:11] <mgmuscari> grub chain loads the windows bootloader, which is on your windows C: partition
[18:11] <JonJ> Curtis_B: Ah, ok
[18:11] <Loder3331> Does a recovery partition serve the same purpose as a recovery cd?
[18:11] <Loder3331> For windows?
[18:11] <Loder3331> Because my drive has a recovery partition
[18:11] <Curtis_B> so /bin is essential, good to know
[18:11] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: yes but that would eradicate your linux installations
[18:11] <MenZa> Loder3331: I suppose, yes
[18:11] <Loder3331> and my BIOS has an option to boot into the recovery manager
[18:11] <tuxxie> mgmuscari: properly configured grub will only have linux os's :D
[18:11] <applecache> recovery ahs ur drivers etc
[18:11] <ndrwc> Loder3331: somewhat depends on the manufacturer :/
[18:11] <mgmuscari> tuxxie: touche
[18:11] <applecache> has*
[18:12] <sudaya> how can i fix my cam on ubuntu 9.04
[18:12] <Loder3331> Is gparted included in ubuntu or do I have to use the livecd?
[18:12] <tuxxie> sudaya: whats wrong with it??
[18:12] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: sudo apt-get install gparted if you don't have it
[18:13] <sudaya> i cant capture in vlc player
[18:13] <Loder3331> I have the livecd
[18:13] <Loder3331> but I could just dl it now then
[18:13] <Loder3331> It's downloading atm
[18:13] <ndrwc> scary, it's not part of base... then again I have a fairly minimal install :/
[18:13] <sudaya> tuxxie: i cant capture in vlc
[18:13] <mgmuscari> LMAO - i just got the most RIDICULOUS email from my department... sorry for the OT but this is funny. university police are asking us to lock the windows to our offices at night due to bat infestations.
[18:14] <Loder3331> It looks like it's done, mgmuscari. How do I get to it?
[18:14] <mgmuscari> from a terminal you can just run gparted
[18:14] <Loder3331> nvm, I found it
[18:14] <sudaya> tuxxie: Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0c45:613c Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[18:14] <sudaya> tuxxie: my cam device
[18:14] <Loder3331> Okay how do I check to see if these are primary?
[18:15] <mgmuscari> hate to run before you figure your stuff out Loder3331, but i have to go talk to a professor about the project we're assigning our students... good luck
[18:15] <Loder3331> Thanks, and thanks for you help so far
[18:15] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: no problem. try the man pages for help on the appropriate flag to look for extended/primary. run man gparted
[18:15] <ndrwc> have a look at the bars at the top, a cyan-ish border around several indicates extended
[18:15] <mgmuscari> bye!
[18:15] <katon> hi
[18:15] <ndrwc> in gparted
[18:16] <sudaya> tuxxie: it also doesnt work with luvcview -w -s 192x192
[18:16] <katon> can anyone tell me how is the best way and simple  to install VDPAU ????
[18:16] <MenZa> Loder3331: [ /boot | /media/win | / U | / F | /home | swap ] is something like what you want
[18:16] <MenZa> Loder3331: I'll just write up some further specs for it
[18:16] <katon> there is a PACAKGE ?
[18:16] <katon> PACKAGE?
[18:16] <Loder3331> Lol I have no idea what that means
[18:16] <MenZa> Loder3331: Hence why I'm writing up some more information about it :)
[18:16] <ndrwc> Loder3331: hang on screenshot
[18:17] <Loder3331> lol k
[18:17] <sudaya> tuxxie: hello!!
[18:17] <pepsu> hi all
[18:17] <vs-adm> Hi everyone
[18:17] <ndrwc> Loder3331: ok http://www.drfreeware.org/screenshots/gparted.jpg <- /dev/sda2 has a dropdown and type "extended"
[18:17] <pepsu> ubuntu rulezz
[18:18] <vs-adm> I have a question about Palimpset
[18:18] <katon> ?
[18:18] <pepsu> do u like it ??http://img17.imageshack.us/i/peps.png/
[18:18] <pepsu> i did it
[18:18] <jerkman> hey, im trying to get a joystick working under linux, now call me crazy, but it is for an amiga and it just so happens to fit a serial port PERFECTLY... is there a driver and does anyone have any experiaence with this sort of thing??
[18:18] <ndrwc> Loder3331: also http://gparted.sourceforge.net/screens/gparted_1_big.jpg etc.
[18:18] <Loder3331> I'm not sure what you're trying to show me, ndrwc
[18:18] <vs-adm> It complains on 1 reallocated sector. Is this feature tunable or hardcoded?
[18:18] <Maleko> how do we set a root permission on program?
[18:19] <stephengarvin> I was wondering if xubuntu or the netbook version of regular ubuntu would be better for an older laptop for my mom thats wanting to browse the web and do facebook like things
[18:19] <ndrwc> Loder3331: in gparted, to see if a partition is extended? sorry it's quite early here
[18:19] <Maleko> trying to make ftp cmd requires root permission run
[18:19] <ndrwc> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php
[18:19] <Maleko> to run*
[18:19] <Balistic> Is the Openoffice 3.x repo at http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ppa/ubuntu supposed to be empty for intrepid?
[18:19] <MenZa> ndrwc, care to check this out and see if you agree: http://pastebin.com/m6e113050
[18:20] <Loder3331> how do you do a screen capture like in windows, on ubuntu?
[18:20] <Loder3331> I usually just press print screen and paste it in paint
[18:20] <Loder3331> does that work in ubuntu with gimp?
[18:20] <ndrwc> Loder3331: printscreen, it'll ask where to save it
[18:20] <MenZa> If you press Print Screen, a small window will pop up asking you to save it.
[18:20] <Loder3331> okay 1 sec
[18:21] <jerkman> hey, im trying to get a joystick working under linux, now call me crazy, but it is for an amiga and it just so happens to fit a serial port PERFECTLY... is there a driver and does anyone have any experiaence with this sort of thing??
[18:21] <sudaya> how can i fix my web cam
[18:22] <RussellAlan> How do I go about reading media/data off other partition? eg. Windows
[18:22] <Loder3331> alright what's the fastest way to get you to see this screenshot of gparted?
[18:22] <MenZa> !fstab | RussellAlan
[18:22] <ndrwc> MenZa: /swap could easily be inside extended though
[18:22] <sudaya> how can capture video from webcam in lc
[18:22] <RussellAlan> thanks menza
[18:22] <MenZa> ndrwc: Excellent.
[18:22] <sudaya> how can capture video from webcam in vlc
[18:22] <C10uD> hello, anyone knows where i can talk with the xorg ppa owners?
[18:22] <MenZa> ndrwc: You reckon it would work, yes?
[18:22] <MenZa> C10uD: Try #ubuntu-motu
[18:22] <garv> anyone have experience with the netbook ver of ubuntu vs. xubuntu?
[18:23] <C10uD> thanks MenZa
[18:23] <MenZa> Oh, ppa owners, C10uD
[18:23] <MenZa> C10uD: Check their contact information on Launchpad.
[18:23] <ndrwc> MenZa: should do I suppose, so long as uids/gids are the same
[18:23] <C10uD> oh ok
[18:23] <C10uD> ;:)
[18:23] <MenZa> Loder3331: I'll not say I'm pro with partitions, but have a look at this: http://pastebin.com/m21a21713 - I'm 90% sure it should work fine.
[18:23] <obiwan_> hi
[18:23] <MenZa> Loder3331: Note that the order of partitions is pretty important
[18:24] <Loder3331> menza, ndrwc, I'm trying to send you a screenshot of my gparted screen
[18:24] <obiwan_> please 1 question, how can i update the kernel?
[18:24] <Loder3331> did you see it?
[18:24] <ndrwc> !pastebin
[18:24] <MenZa> I see it, Loder3331
[18:24] <MenZa> !kernel | obiwan_
[18:24] <obiwan_> ty MenZa
[18:24] <MenZa> obiwan_: Be careful, though.
[18:25] <MenZa> obiwan_: You shouldn't have to manually compile a new kernel.
[18:25] <MenZa> And it can go poof.
[18:25] <garv> anyone with xubuntu experiance? the #xubuntu channel is dead
[18:25] <MenZa> !anyone | garv
[18:25] <Loder3331> I still don't know what the information at that pastebin link means in terms of what I have to do with gparted
[18:26] <MenZa> Loder3331: Look at the, uh, bar I created. It's ASCII, so not quite as pretty as what you see in gparted.
[18:26] <MenZa> It requires you to delete most of your partitions and start over, basically.
[18:26] <MenZa> Partitions are stone-age like that.
[18:26] <garv> Menza would you reccomend using xubuntu or the netbook ver of ubuntu with a older laptop?
[18:26] <MenZa> garv: That's up to your preferences.
[18:26] <MenZa> !best
[18:27] <ndrwc> heh
[18:27] <MenZa> Man, I would be arthritic if I didn't depend so much on the factoids in here.
[18:27] <ekimmargni> How can I have network manager use a static IP on the LAN? Is that a setting on the router, or in NM (or both)?
[18:27] <ndrwc> MenZa: my system atm: http://imagebin.org/63966
[18:27] <ndrwc> swap inside extended
[18:28] <MenZa> ndrwc: Ah. I'll keep that in mind.
[18:28] <ndrwc> MenZa: wait did I have a point there? :P
[18:28] <Loder3331> MenZa: okay so if I read correctly, I need to have a boot partition(primary), followed by a windows vista partition(primary), followed by an ubuntu partition(extended), followed by a fedora partition(extended), followed by a /home partition(extended), followed by a 16gb swap partition(I have 8gb ram.., extended)
[18:28] <ndrwc> I think i'd better get some sleep
[18:28] <Loder3331> Is that correct?
[18:29] <MenZa> Loder3331: "Extended" just means it can contain several partitions, without ACTUALLY being a partition.
[18:29] <MenZa> And good lord, if you have 8GB, don't waste a kilobyte on the swap
[18:29] <ndrwc> my work machine would be a better indication, it's a macbook so it's got EFI, OSX, Ubuntu and swap
[18:29] <Loder3331> lol
[18:29] <adac> which grafic driver should i install if I don't want to use the proprietary ones (nvidea, ati). For to get a movie playing without problems?
[18:29] <Loder3331> ubuntu gave me a very small swap file by default
[18:29] <ndrwc> MenZa: ... hibernate?
[18:29] <Loder3331> so should I just take that one and put it at the end
[18:29] <rigodeni> I noticed when i restart my comp, at the ubuntu load screen it keeps doing "Routine check of disk" how can i disable this?
[18:29] <Loder3331> with gparted?
[18:29] <MenZa> ndrwc: It should be able to suspend-to-ram.
[18:29] <ndrwc> oh why do swap partitions keep being used if swap files are better?
[18:30] <ndrwc> MenZa: power failure?
[18:30] <thiebaude> !swap
[18:30] <ndrwc> thiebaude: thankyou :)
[18:30] <Loder3331> Yeah
[18:30] <bodly> adac: depends on which card you have.  nv driver for nvidia card.  ati driver for ati card.  the nv driver has no 3d acceleration at all.
[18:30] <MenZa> Loder3331: If you *do* want swap, i wouldn not go above 1--2GB swap, but I really don't think you need it.
[18:30] <Loder3331> So MenZa, did you see my current configuration?
[18:31] <Loder3331> in the screencapture?
[18:31] <MenZa> Loder3331: I must've missed it. Apologies.
[18:31] <MenZa> Loder3331: Oh, I saw you sending it. Please upload it instead.
[18:31] <Loder3331> Alright where
[18:31] <thiebaude> ndrwc, no problem
[18:31] <gwildor> idk wtf is with everyone recomending against swap...
[18:31] <MenZa> Loder3331: I IRC through my server, which has no graphical interface.
[18:31] <garv> is the netbook remix the same as the MID edition? if not where can I find a good information page on the netbook remix
[18:31] <MenZa> Loder3331: http://imagebin.org, for instance.
[18:31] <Loder3331> lol ok, how
[18:31] <MenZa> !nbr | garv
[18:31] <applecache> send file
[18:31] <MenZa> hm.
[18:31] <rigodeni> I noticed when i restart my comp, at the ubuntu load screen it keeps doing "Routine check of disk" how can i disable this?
[18:32] <Len> Hi, can anyone help me?
[18:32] <gwildor> rigodeni, did you try letting it do the check?
[18:32] <MenZa> garv: check http://canonical.com/netbook
[18:32] <ndrwc> rigodeni: accept that you'll have data loss?
[18:32] <ekimmargni> rigodeni: you probably shouldn't
[18:32] <MenZa> Len: That certainly depends what you need help with.
[18:32] <rigodeni> gwildor: no
[18:32] <applecache> rigodeni; maybe ur hard drive has problomes
[18:32] <gwildor> rigodeni, i would start there.
[18:32] <garv> Menza thank you
[18:32] <Loder3331> how do I upload my picture to that page, MenZa?
[18:32] <ekimmargni> rigodeni: you can make it run less often though, using tune2fs - and you can make it run faster by using ext4 filesystem
[18:32] <rigodeni> gwildor: k
[18:32] <adac> bodly, Well I want to use my usb stick on multiple pcs the grafic card can differ. so what would you suggest?
[18:33] <applecache> send the file to him
[18:33] <Len> its just because my linux cant find computers by name, just by ip
[18:33] <applecache> right click on his name
[18:33] <applecache> then send file
[18:33] <Loder3331> He wants me to upload it instead
[18:33] <rigodeni> ekimmargni: i heard theres issues with ext4 still
[18:33] <ndrwc> Loder3331: http://tinyurl.com/imagebin
[18:33] <ekimmargni> rigodeni: which issues?
[18:33] <Len> i'm thinking in installing bind
[18:33] <MenZa> Good question, Loder3331 - http://tinypic.com instead.
[18:33] <bodly> adac: the vesa driver should work with just about any card out there.  but it will be slow and not have many features.
[18:33] <ndrwc> or imageshack.us or whatever really :P
[18:33] <applecache> upload -= send i think
[18:33] <rigodeni> ekimmargni: i dunno
[18:33] <Loder3331> can I just use the link ndrwc just gave me?
[18:33] <Loder3331> It seems to be working
[18:34] <adac> bodly, yeah it seems to be too slow for video (movies)
[18:34] <ndrwc> Loder3331: you can use whatever works, so long as you tell us where you've put it :)
[18:34] <Len> MenZa: its just because my linux cant find computers by name, just by ip
[18:34] <ekimmargni> rigodeni: all the issues I hear about have been fixed... online defrag, deleting large files, a bit of a kludge for desktop manager dotfiles... all done
[18:34] <Loder3331> http://imagebin.org/63967
[18:34] <ekimmargni> !ext4 | rigodeni
[18:34] <ekimmargni> wtf?!
[18:35] <ekimmargni> luckily seb isn't here to botspam me :)
[18:35] <bodly> adac: if you just move your xorg.conf file out of the way, X should be able to figure out which driver to use automatically
[18:35] <ndrwc> len: you have a dns server?
[18:35] <MenZa> Loder3331: Whichever :)
[18:35] <rigodeni> "ubottu: Sorry, I don't know anything about ext4" lol
[18:35] <MenZa> Loder3331: Checking it out now.
[18:35] <Loder3331> K
[18:35] <JamesB192> I trashed the contents of /etc/grub.d on my Kubuntu laptop (Karmic using GRUB2) how do I replace the files that were there?
[18:36] <MenZa> Loder3331: Well... You *can* leave Windows as the first partition - or so I'm told. Moving that block around would be no fun. swap the locations of /boot and /media/win on my partition table and work with it from there
[18:36] <adac> bodly, so is it possible to install both drivers ati and nvidia at the same time?
[18:36] <legend2440> !karmic | JamesB192
[18:36] <bodly> adac: as far as i know, yes.
[18:36] <ndrwc> Loder3331: does your bios/recovery have specific requirements on where the recovery parition lives?
[18:36] <Len> ndrwc: no, Im thinking in installing bind
[18:37] <Loder3331> I have no idea
[18:37] <MenZa> Loder3331: I'd just delete most of my partitions and rebuild it completely. Oh, and leave your recovery partition where it is
[18:37] <ndrwc> Loder3331: you didn't move it then?
[18:37] <Loder3331> No
[18:37] <Loder3331> It's been there all along
[18:37] <ndrwc> ok
[18:38] <Len> ndrwc: but I don't know how to set it up
[18:38] <MenZa> Loder3331: It is a bit of brain surgery you have going here. If you're new to Linux, why don't you stick to one distribution?
[18:38] <ndrwc> len: err dunno. why bind? why not dnsmasq?
[18:38] <Loder3331> Lol I don't know
[18:38] <Loder3331> I just want to have them both
[18:38] <om26er> how can i set the notification to appear in the bottom
[18:39] <Loder3331> So what steps do I need to take in gparted from this point, to get where I need to be?
[18:39] <Loder3331> Do I just create a /home and a /boot partition in the free space?
[18:39] <MenZa> Loder3331: Moving partitions around, deleting partitions, re-installing
[18:39] <Loder3331> and put them in the correct places?
[18:39] <MenZa> Make sure they're all in the extended table
[18:39] <MenZa> Like in the paste I gave you earlier
[18:39] <cak054> j
[18:39] <MenZa> It *is* possible to do this, but you may need to read up on the different things a bit. It's a bit difficult to work with.
[18:39] <ndrwc> Loder3331: are you wiping or keeping the NTFS partitions? looks like they need repairing
[18:40] <Len> ndrwc: I just read on google that bind is more used, so I was shooting for bind
[18:40] <Loder3331> I plan on keeping them
[18:40] <ekimmargni> How can I have network manager use a static IP on the LAN?
[18:40] <Loder3331> most of my things are on that partition
[18:41] <legend2440> om26er: right click bottom panel choose add to panel  choose Notification  Area. i think that will work. Never tried it
[18:41] <K_Dallas> Hig guys! What is the easiest way to make a bootable USB from karmic.iso? Thanks
[18:41] <adac> bodly, you mean the proprietary ones? Or are there other?
[18:41] <stianhj> K_Dallas: unetbootin
[18:41] <om26er> legend2440: i am talking abt the notification that popup
[18:41] <ndrwc> Loder3331: other thing, are you wiping ubuntu? install fedora first if you are, in case it's not as flexible as ubuntu for install locations
[18:42] <ndrwc> eh maybe not... :/
[18:42] <K_Dallas> stianhj, I don't have ubuntu installed yet but i have access to opensuse. Would this worked as well?
[18:42] <legend2440> om26er: oh ok. not sure
[18:42] <Loder3331> I wasn't planning on wiping ubuntu
[18:42] <fccf> !karmic | K_Dallas
[18:42] <ndrwc> Loder3331: ok
[18:42] <matt098> Hello, how is everyone today?  I have a small sound issue with ubuntu janty, this is a fresh install all updates have been downloaded and I have tried following this guide " http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130384 " but still no luck.  Can anyone help me ???
[18:42] <Loder3331> If possible, I want to just install fedora
[18:42] <Loder3331> without getting rid of anything, if possible
[18:42] <stianhj> K_Dallas: unetbootin is available for windows
[18:42] <bodly> adac: there are opensource drivers for both ati and nvidia cards.
[18:42] <K_Dallas> fccf, thanks for the heads-up.
[18:42] <gwildor> matt098, i dont think i can help, but i can say thanks for the awesome post.
[18:43] <ndrwc> Loder3331: you realise you've asked something along the lines of "I want more seats in my car" right? :P
[18:43] <adac> bodly, what is their name?
[18:43] <K_Dallas> stianhj, that would be great. much appreciated thank you.
[18:43] <ndrwc> good luck :)
[18:43] <matt098> how do u whisper?
[18:43] <gOLDfeesh> When I try to install prelude, I get the following:   error creating directory /etc/prelude/profile/prelude-manager: No such file or directory.
[18:43] <wakeupscreaming> ubuntard ?
[18:43] <stianhj> K_Dallas: opensuse will work as well.. it's in the repos i guess
[18:43] <Loder3331> Lol, so is it possible?
[18:43] <K7522|AFK> ndrwc, I want more seats in my car.
[18:43] <K_Dallas> stianhj, great
[18:44] <ndrwc> K7522|AFK: good for you. do you have space in your car?
[18:44] <bodly> adac: xserver-xorg-video-nv and xserver-xorg-video-ati
[18:44] <K7522> ndrwc, No :( hehe
[18:44]  * K_Dallas thinks google cannot beat IRC anytime soon ;)
[18:44] <Loder3331> So ndrwc is it possible to do this? Or do I have to get rid of ubuntu first
[18:44] <ndrwc> Loder3331: should be possible
[18:45] <K7522> K_Dallas, IRC > ubuntuforums.org > google
[18:45] <adac> bodly, thx a lot! Is it possible that when i install nvidia ones that may when I boot my usb stick on another pc the fallback will be vesa?
[18:45] <shane2peru> anyone know how to bind nfs to specific ports on ubuntu?
[18:45] <K_Dallas> K7522, :):) agreed, msot of the time
[18:45] <K_Dallas> most* even
[18:45] <Loder3331> Actually I don't mind deleting ubuntu, so if I delete all partitions except the two ntfs partitions, where do I go from there?
[18:45] <JediMaster> do I need to compile with the win32codecs to get support for decoding things like windows media player codecs?
[18:45] <Frots> hi
[18:45] <bodly> adac: as long as you don't have a driver hardcoded into your xorg.conf file, that should work.
[18:45] <Loder3331> I don't know how to make things part of the extended or anything like that
[18:45] <JediMaster> ugh, wrong channel
[18:46] <Frots> how can I compile ms office for ubuntu?
[18:46]  * ndrwc $ grep "bed" /dev/room
[18:46] <legend2440> Loder3331: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/112118-dual-boot-fedora-8-ubuntu-desktop-version.html
[18:46] <ndrwc> Frots: steal the source code
[18:46] <K_Dallas> Frots, wow! Do you have the source?
[18:46] <ubuntu1> use wine for ms officr
[18:46] <ndrwc> quick sell it on ebay
[18:46] <Guest6257> running crunch bang linux in virtualbox 3.0 unable to get guest additions   using ubuntu 9.04
[18:46] <mdg> Frots: see if you can get an rpm
[18:46] <jhowell> in server 9.04, 'invoke-rc.d mysql start' does nothing.  However, 'restart', 'stop', 'foo', and even 'start2' *do* things.  Please see: http://pastebin.com/m1abed131  Starting at line 97.
[18:47] <K7522> ubuntu1, why use wine for ms office? Just use open office in your native desktop
[18:47] <demonspork> I am trying to install icon themes on 9.04, and only some of them work for all of the icons.  Glass-icons is one that doesn't work, certain things like archives and certain other filetypes work, but folders and hard disk and cd rom icons don't, they just go back to defaults
[18:47] <ben_m> Frots: That's easy, just run emerge
[18:47] <ChrizC> how do I set my resolution above 1024x768 on 8.04 LTS?
[18:47] <jhowell> So what's special about the word 'start' that has broken this init script?
[18:47] <Frots> I dont understand
[18:47] <Frots> I read it on the wiki
[18:47] <mdg> Frots: rm -rf C:
[18:47] <Frots> but it didnt work
[18:47] <ben_m> Frots: emerge is the packet manager for Ubuntu
[18:47] <Frots> doesn't work
[18:47] <ben_m> I heard
[18:47] <Frots> where do i get emerge
[18:47] <ben_m> do it with sudo
[18:47] <shane2peru> anyone know how to bind nfs to specific ports on ubuntu?
[18:47] <Frots> sudo emerge ms office ?
[18:47] <K7522> ChriszC, System > Preferences > Display check there
[18:47] <ZachK18> hallo
[18:48] <Frots> or sudo rm -rf c:
[18:48] <ben_m> Frots: c: won't work
[18:48] <Loder3331> legend2440: will that work if you already have a windows partition as well as a windows recovery partition?
[18:48] <ben_m> Frots: if you want to do that, use it with ~
[18:48] <Frots> ok
[18:48] <adac> bodly, Uhhh I just noticed that both, xserver-xorg-video-nv and  xserver-xorg-video-ati, is already installed. But that is my xorg.conf file: http://pastie.org/617687 How can i check with driver is currently up running?
[18:48] <ben_m> But I wouldn't
[18:48] <bodly> adac: checking...
[18:48] <matt098> Hello, how is everyone today?  I have a small sound issue with ubuntu janty, this is a fresh install all updates have been downloaded and I have tried following this guide " http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130384 " but still no luck.  Can anyone help me ???
[18:49] <Frots> it askes for a password
[18:49] <__lupo__> hi all, I`ve beem using the ubuntu 9.10 alpha... and I was keeping my system updated... but I just updated now and then I got an error...
[18:49] <jason_> I have but crunch bang linux on virtualbox 3.0 guest addtions do nothing when clicked using ubuntu 9.04 as host help please!
[18:49] <Frots> mdg: where can i get this rpm thing
[18:49] <__lupo__> does anybody had this problem
[18:49] <MenZa> Sounds like you've tried a bit already, matt098, but check this link.
[18:49] <legend2440> Loder3331: i dont have windows  maybe someone in channel  #fedora  would know
[18:49] <MenZa> !sound > matt098 (Please see the private message from the bot)
[18:49] <MenZa> j/w 69
[18:50] <ben_m> I'm going to try rm -rf ~ now ... I wonder if that actually works :D:D:D:D ~_~
[18:50] <bodly> adac: ok, there's no driver defined, so Xorg should be picking what it thinks is the best driver.  read /var/log/Xorg.0.log to find out which driver it is using.
[18:51] <shane2peru> nobody knows about nfs?  and how to bind it to specific ports?
[18:52] <Frots> hello
[18:52] <Frots> I lost my data
[18:52] <Frots> where is mdg
[18:52] <Frots> my desjtop is gone
[18:52] <bumbblebee> how can i access my shared folder in vbox
[18:52] <mdg> guys who is bruenig? he keeps harrassing me
[18:53] <mdg> how do you leave
[18:53] <K7522> shane2peru, I know that it uses ports 2049/tcp 2049/udp but as for binding them elsewhere I don't know.
[18:53] <grawity> bumbblebee: If the guest OS is Windows, it should be in Network somewhere.
[18:53] <Tomasso> anyone able to use the laptop in the sun? im not able to see the screen very well
[18:53] <Frots> FloodBot2: can you help me
[18:53] <shane2peru> K7522: well, on the surface it appears to use those ports, but when it comes down to it, other ports are involved and it is random for security
[18:53] <Ravenkin_laptop> bumbblebee, you install guest additions, then you have to create a share folder in the client, point virtualbox to the shared folder in the host, and then run mount -t vboxsf "host share name" "client share name" with the directory listed
[18:54] <PolitikerNEU> Tomasso: There are some new laptops reflecting the sunlight
[18:54] <shane2peru> K7522: I need to bind them so I can have an iptables firewall
[18:54] <PolitikerNEU> Tomasso: I mean: using the sunlight
[18:54] <jason_> guest additions vbox  not working nothing happens crunch bang linux ubuntu 9.04 as host os vox 3.0 help!
[18:54] <bumbblebee> grawity, Ravenkin_laptop i used  net use X: \\vboxsvr\ from command line
[18:54] <bumbblebee> worked but
[18:54] <Tomasso> mhhm that could be great, i cant see the screen very well, but the sun makes me feel good..
[18:54] <ben_m> Tomasso: there are linux distributions that actually solve that problem
[18:54] <keiya_> Hey, is there a client that connects to Exchange?
[18:55] <grawity> keiya_: Not really. You could try Evolution, but the method it uses isn't very liked by many.
[18:55] <Tomasso> ben_m , how they do it??
[18:55] <adac> bodly, ok so while checking Xorg.0.log It seems that the driver that is taken is indeed the nvidia one. here is my log: http://pastie.org/617696 So my the cause for the slowliness wathcing a video is caused by something other...like the read/write speed of my usb stick? Is that possible?
[18:55] <MenZa> keiya_: Evolution works better for me than Outlook ever did in Windows.
[18:55] <keiya_> I mean, one that connects not through OWA, which all of them seem to use... the OWA xml-rpc stuff is disabled on this one.
[18:55] <MenZa> ouch
[18:55] <Frots> Tomasso: I think it was puppy linux
[18:55] <keiya_> Or something.
[18:55] <ben_m> Yeah I think so
[18:56] <keiya_> Either way, it thinks it's exchange 5.5. It's 8.1
[18:56] <shane2peru> K7522: running rpcinfo -p will reveal the ports involved, however after a reboot, they are different, it is the nlock and mountd?  or something like that.
[18:56] <dubz> hi
[18:56] <Frots> is it true that emesene will replace pidgin?
[18:56] <Frots> I heard it on the news
[18:56] <tilt> Frots: url? :)
[18:56] <ben_m> this mroing