[12:10] <johnt>  Does anyone know if ti is possible to get DRI on a SiS 760 chipset video card ?   (A.K.A Ati Mirage)
[12:10] <dettoaltrimenti_> he did, it says Feisty. Same thing happened to me, but I ended up having to upgrade about 500 more packages
[12:10] <kgx> quite possibly the most wrong place to ask, but does anyone know of any c# or dotnet channels?
[12:11] <_StefanS_> kgx: #csharp
[12:11] <_4strO> !c
[12:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:11] <_StefanS_> kgx: #dotnet
[12:11] <kgx> tried that
[12:11] <kgx> empty
[12:11] <dettoaltrimenti_> hey _StefanS_ do you know any bash scripting channels?
[12:11] <_4strO> #bash
[12:11] <kgx> !mono
[12:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mono - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:11] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: maybe I can help
[12:12] <_StefanS_> kgx: #c#
[12:13] <enotee> how do i edit sources.list
[12:13] <Vedo> dettoaltrimenti_: but the upgrade tool crached!
[12:13] <_4strO> enotee: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:14] <kgx> StefanS_: thanks
[12:14] <kgx> :)
[12:14] <johnt>  Does anyone know if it is possible to get DRI on a SiS 760 chipset video card ?   (A.K.A Ati Mirage) currently I get 12 fps wow
[12:15] <Eyeless> Vedo: did the upgradetool crash on you while upgrading to feisty?
[12:16] <Vedo> Eyeless: yes
[12:16] <Eyeless> and now everyting is locked?
[12:16] <Eyeless> _StefanS_: lucky bastard :D
[12:16] <Vedo> no the distro work ok
[12:17] <Eyeless> Vedo: i mean the repositories, so you cant run adept, aptitude and so on
[12:18] <dettoaltrimenti_> Vedo- if adept doesn't work you can type in the terminal 'dpkg --configure -a' and that should fix it
[12:18] <Eyeless> dont forget sudo
[12:18] <_StefanS_> Eyeless: hey I forgot to mention i needed to do dpkg --configure -a to complete the upgrade ;)
[12:19] <_StefanS_> Eyeless: so it wasnt completely flawless
[12:19] <Vedo> dettoaltrimenti_: ok thanks i test the distro for 3-4 day
[12:19] <johnt> is adept better than apt??
[12:19] <[M] onaro800> Well i must admit more people here than i thaught
[12:19] <_StefanS_> johnt: nope I dont think so
[12:19] <dettoaltrimenti_> Vedo- congratulations- kubuntu is awesome. If you have trouble understanding us, you can ask for help in #kubuntu-it
[12:19] <_StefanS_> johnt: but to some more conveinient
[12:19] <johnt> Is it just new then??
[12:19] <Eyeless> _StefanS_: if you have javadocs installed its hell, both adept and the upgrade tool crashes when trying to install those
[12:20] <dromer> hmm, I just safely removed my usb-camera,then made some pics, now when I hook it up again, there is no auto-mount, and I can't mount it myself (mount: /dev/sda is not a valid block device), lsusb does absolutely nothing (meaning: hangs and gives no output)
[12:20] <_StefanS_> Eyeless: ok, you should just go straigt to the commandline then :)
[12:20] <_StefanS_> straight even
[12:20] <_StefanS_> anyone know how to install the java bundle from sun ? with netbeans and stuff?
[12:20] <Eyeless> _StefanS_: yupps, took a while to figure out thats all :P
[12:20] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- sda is probably your root drive, look in /dev and there might be an sdb
[12:20] <Eyeless> _StefanS_: use aptitude
[12:20] <q1w2e3r4> somebody may help me how to use an internet-connection of a windows-network?
[12:21] <_StefanS_> Eyeless: or synaptic
[12:21] <Eyeless> you have to dl some files from sun and put into /tmp
[12:21] <_StefanS_> Eyeless: or whatever :)
[12:21] <johnt> How more conveinient than "apt-get update"??
[12:21] <_StefanS_> Eyeless: matter of preference
[12:21] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: but howcome lsusb hangs? it does totally nothing
[12:21] <_StefanS_> johnt: some users is scared of commandline, thats all
[12:21] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: there is no sdb
[12:21] <johnt> Oh OK so it is point and click!
[12:22] <_StefanS_> johnt: exactly
[12:22] <johnt> Thx
[12:22] <Eyeless> _StefanS_: well i havent used synaptic a lot so i dunno how well it does when the packageinstaller starts asking questions and all that
[12:22] <_StefanS_> johnt: I prefer apt-get/dpkg any time
[12:22] <johnt> Me too
[12:22] <_StefanS_> Eyeless: I dont know what the difference between aptitude and apt-get is, but apt-get has always worked for me
[12:23] <Eyeless> _StefanS_: aptitude is the new apt-get i beleive
[12:23] <litropy> still there, dettoaltrimenti_ ?
[12:23] <_StefanS_> Eyeless: uhm, ok.. well if the old one still works, then...  :D
[12:23] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- try to mount sda1
[12:23] <_StefanS_> Eyeless: you wouldn't happen to have netbeans installed ?
[12:23] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy yes, did you give it a try?
[12:23] <Eyeless> _StefanS_: i do
[12:23] <litropy> Well, that caused problems. I got errors upon boot
[12:23] <_StefanS_> Eyeless: from the ubuntu repos?
[12:24] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[12:24] <_StefanS_> Eyeless: ah.. netbeans5.5-platform ;)
[12:24] <Eyeless> _StefanS_: yep, i installed it by hand earlier, but the one from the repos was easy :P
[12:24] <_StefanS_> I see, i'm installing it now
[12:24] <litropy> dettoaltrimenti_ I can't remember what they said exactly, but I think it was from ttyl or something like that
[12:25] <litropy> and I got prompted to login after I tried hitting esc and things like that
[12:25] <litropy> thing is, it wouldn't accept the login
[12:25] <litropy> not even root
[12:26] <litropy> anyhow, I gotta delete those lines so I can get back into linux
[12:26] <litropy> I'm on the osx partition now.
[12:26] <litropy> where is the file again?
[12:27] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy hmm, try googling for help, I know that you need to make that say 'direct rendering: yes' when you type glxinfo | grep direct
[12:27] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: maybe you need the linux-restricted-drivers
[12:27] <_StefanS_> hmm maybe not, when I come to think of it
[12:27] <litropy> okay. but I need to modify the file back to what it was
[12:28] <litropy> so I can boot into linux
[12:28] <dettoaltrimenti_> it's not me, it's litropy. Maybe you can help him, _StefanS_?
[12:28] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: oh sorry :)
[12:28] <dettoaltrimenti_> ok litropy sorry, can you log into the terminal and change the xorg.conf back to what it was?
[12:28] <_StefanS_> litropy: you will not be able to log in directly as root, so thats normal.
[12:28] <litropy> yeah, I need the file path, though
[12:29] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy- the file path is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:30] <_StefanS_> litropy: you can also try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:31] <_StefanS_> litropy: configure X using a neat gui
[12:31] <dettoaltrimenti_> _StefanS_ - if he is having problems with beryl, and he's using nvidia, does aiglx matter?
[12:32] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: well yes because AFAIK nvidia supports AIGLX directly
[12:32] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/02/06/install-beryl-on-ubuntu-feisty-with-aiglx-for-nvidia-ubuntu-704/
[12:32] <dettoaltrimenti_> yeah, when he types glxinfo | grep direct, it turns up Direct rendering: no, and I told him to add a few lines to xorg.conf. That's the right thing to do, right
[12:32] <litropy> weird - no xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[12:32] <_StefanS_> litropy: just generate a new one
[12:33] <_StefanS_> litropy: using the command I gave you
[12:33] <litropy> _StefanS_: sudo: dpkg-reconfigure: command not found
[12:33] <litropy> I'm in OSX by the way
[12:33] <_StefanS_> litropy: you're in OSX?
[12:33] <litropy> until I can get linux to boot again
[12:33] <johnt> Do the people who are helping litropy know there are a number of nvidia drivers in the gui synaptic package manager?/ Seach GLX
[12:34] <_StefanS_> litropy: oh, ok
[12:34] <_StefanS_> johnt: nvidia-glx yes
[12:34] <johnt> OK
[12:34] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy- can you do a 'safe boot' and get to a terminal?
[12:34] <_StefanS_> litropy: see if there's a backup of the previous xorg.conf somewhere
[12:34] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: he should.
[12:34] <SuperSub> can anyone help me with enlightenment?
[12:35] <litropy> how do I safe boot
[12:35] <dettoaltrimenti_> _StefanS_ can he chroot from osx?
[12:35] <dromer> and can someone else help me with my usb-issue? ;)
[12:35] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: hmm yes actually you should be able to do that
[12:35] <litropy> yep
[12:35] <litropy> why what do I do with it
[12:35] <_StefanS_> but its far easier just to boot in failsafe mode and let the gui fix xorg.conf
[12:36] <litropy> okay how do I do that
[12:36] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: in terms of supporting ;)
[12:36] <dettoaltrimenti_> gui? without xorg.conf, he can only get to a terminal
[12:36] <_StefanS_> litropy: esc when in grub, and then select the failsafe kernel
[12:36] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: its an ncurses gui
[12:36] <litropy> okay, how I know when I'm in grub
[12:37] <jussi01> can someone tell me how to rename samba shares on the desktop? itried the normal renaming but they just flick back to what they were?
[12:37] <_StefanS_> litropy: when the message about you can press esc shows
[12:37] <_StefanS_> litropy: then you got 5 secs to
[12:37] <_StefanS_> litropy: do it
[12:37] <litropy> k
[12:37] <litropy> brb
[12:37] <sobersabre> hi
[12:38] <sobersabre> is there a work done to make kde4 for feisty ?
[12:38] <sobersabre> is it avail ?
[12:38] <_StefanS_> sobersabre: you can download a snapshot, but its not really capable of anything useful yet.
[12:38] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- what's the error you're getitng again? when you try to mount it?
[12:39] <_StefanS_> sobersabre: if you just want to try it, I believe there's a kde4 livecd somewhere
[12:39] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: with sda it's: mount: /dev/sda is not a valid block device  and with sda1: mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist, also: I can't do lsusb
[12:40] <sobersabre> _StefanS_: what is kde4 currently capable of ?
[12:40] <_StefanS_> sobersabre: http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/
[12:40] <_StefanS_> sobersabre: nothing that a regular users would really see. Most of it is still very much alpha
[12:41] <sobersabre> is it working with SVG icons etc. ?
[12:41] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- what does your fstab say about sda?
[12:41] <_StefanS_> sobersabre: yes I believe so. If you want the icons you can snatch them, and use them in kde 3.5.6
[12:42] <_StefanS_> sobersabre: check that livecd and see for yourself
[12:42] <sobersabre> _StefanS_: ok, many thanks for this one.
[12:42] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: hmm, nothing, but just before this I could automount my camera just fine ..
[12:43] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- can you put your fstab in the pastebin so I can look at it
[12:44] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17197/
[12:44] <litropy> weird
[12:44] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- your mtab, too?
[12:45] <litropy> anyhow, it's a message from tty1 - failure to load microcode.fw
[12:45] <dettoaltrimenti_> oh wait dromer, no need
[12:45] <dromer> oh, ok :)
[12:45] <litropy> or something that looks like that but a bit more verbose
[12:45] <litropy> erm... I don't see a grub message anywhere
[12:45] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: neway: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17198/  :P
[12:45] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- what's the mount point that it used to automatically mount to?
[12:46] <dromer> /media/usbdisk
[12:46] <_StefanS_> litropy: dont you have a terminal now ?
[12:46] <litropy> I get the oddly-colored kubuntu load screen (it's just a graphic with a load bar on a black screen)
[12:47] <litropy> and then the error msg begins
[12:47] <litropy> so I'm still in osx
[12:47] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy- there should be a few choices on your grub screen- try a different one
[12:47] <litropy> I do not get a grub screen
[12:47] <litropy> I see no choices during my bootup
[12:47] <litropy> and I usually doon't
[12:47] <_StefanS_> litropy: well you need to be a bit faster then
[12:48] <_StefanS_> litropy: hit escape after it reboots continually
[12:48] <LeeJunFan> litropy: if you don't dual boot then you should get a message to press esc for grub menu.
[12:48] <_StefanS_> litropy: should get you in the boot menu then
[12:48] <litropy> I mean I honestly don't get options during bootup. I'm using yaboot
[12:48] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- I don't see any evidence of the camera auto mounting... but it seems like it might one one of those hda devices, type 'mount' and see what's already mounted, then try to mount hda3,hda4,hda5 all those
[12:49] <litropy> I get the choice between os x, linux, or cdrom
[12:49] <icecruncher> anyboy know how to create a symlink?
[12:49] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy ok, do you know how to use chroot?
[12:49] <dromer> icecruncher: ln
[12:49] <paolo> hi. how can i pipe the STDERR of process1 to stdin of process2? thnks
[12:49] <litropy> no. dettoaltrimenti_
[12:49] <dromer> icecruncher: actually: ln -s
[12:49] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: what do you mean by that last bit?
[12:49] <icecruncher> k
[12:49] <_StefanS_> paolo: 2>&1
[12:49] <icecruncher> thanks
[12:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> _StefanS_ I think you know more than me... can he chroot into linux from OSX, then just create the xorg.conf file from there
[12:50] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: yes he can
[12:50] <dromer> icecruncher: do $ man ln
[12:50] <icecruncher> yep
[12:50] <_StefanS_> dettoaltrimenti_: although he needs the environment sourced
[12:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer try sudo mount /dev/hda3 /media/usbdisk etc
[12:50] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: /dev/hda3 is already mounted
[12:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> _StefanS_ can you tell him how to do it? I don't know the exact commands
[12:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer ok, type 'mount'- and pastebin that
[12:50] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: and why would I want to mount it to /media/usbdisk ?
[12:51] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17199/
[12:51] <paolo> _StefanS_: should i exec:    ./program1 2>&1 ./program2 ?
[12:51] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- isn't that where you want the camera mounted?
[12:51] <_StefanS_> paolo: ./program1 2>&1 | ./program2
[12:52] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: yet, but what does it have to do with hda3 ?
[12:52] <icecruncher> dromer: so a symlink for konsole to autostart would be how? ln -s /pathto/konsole ~/.kde/Autostart?
[12:52] <dromer> icecruncher: sorry, haven't used symlinks in a while :P (well I use em, but haven't made any)
[12:52] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- ok, so what device is the camera, it's not sda, and you said there's no sdb
[12:52] <icecruncher> dromer: np
[12:53] <paolo> thnks _StefanS_
[12:53] <_StefanS_> paolo: np
[12:53] <_StefanS_> np even
[12:53] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: I don't know what device, I still think it's weird I an't do lsusb though, that just totally freezes bash
[12:53] <dromer> can't*
[12:53] <_StefanS_> litropy: chroot <hd mountpoint> /bin/bash
[12:54] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: all I know is it should be sda
[12:54] <litropy> hmm
[12:55] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- did you upgrade recently to feisty?
[12:55] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: nope, still edgy, don't plan to upgrade in a while ;)
[12:55] <litropy> well, bin is right at root
[12:55] <litropy> so would that be my mount point?
[12:56] <_StefanS_> I dont know...
[12:56] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer hmmm I'm not sure... you could check to see if ntfs-3g is installed, but I don't see why it wouldn't be
[12:56] <_StefanS_> litropy: you need to mount the linux hd somewhere and then use that directory in the chroot
[12:57] <litropy> it's just a separate partition
[12:57] <litropy> trying to think...
[12:57] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: I wouldn't know what ntfs-3g would have to do with it
[12:58] <litropy> chroot /Volumes/Entropy
[12:58] <litropy> chroot: /Volumes/Entropy: Operation not permitted
[12:58] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer well most cameras run FAT or ntfs, not ext3, but I have another idea- type 'dmesg | grep usb'
[12:59] <_StefanS_> litropy: use sudo
[12:59] <sylvisj> Ok, so I need some help
[12:59] <sylvisj> when trying to compile an app from source
[12:59] <sylvisj> wait.. nvm
[12:59] <sylvisj> i just fixed it somehow
[12:59] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: ./configure && make && sudo make install
[01:00] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: and hello again
[01:00] <litropy> adams-imac-g5:/Volumes adam$ sudo chroot /Volumes/Entropy
[01:00] <litropy> adams-imac-g5:/ root# /bin/bash
[01:00] <litropy> adams-imac-g5:/ root#
[01:00] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17201/
[01:00] <litropy> I won't scroll more than 3 lines
[01:00] <litropy> it's quiet here
[01:01] <sylvisj> _StefanS_: Hi. yeah, I know that much :P was giving me weird errors that installing build-essential fixed
[01:01] <sylvisj> I'm trying to remember everything I needed in my gentoo days
[01:02] <puppetmaster> Hi Everyone
[01:02] <puppetmaster> I'm having problems with a rar file?
[01:02] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer- hmm not sure what the problem is
[01:02] <puppetmaster> When I enter unrar e command
[01:03] <_StefanS_> puppetmaster: and then ?
[01:03] <puppetmaster> it gave me this message
[01:03] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: yeah, maybe someone else can help here ..
[01:03] <puppetmaster> Extracting  750.wmv                                                   96%
[01:03] <puppetmaster> 750.wmv              - CRC failed
[01:03] <puppetmaster> Unexpected end of archive
[01:03] <puppetmaster> Total errors: 2
[01:03] <puppetmaster> So, what should I do?
[01:04] <_StefanS_> puppetmaster: download it again
[01:04] <sylvisj> ...
[01:04] <puppetmaster> oh my god
[01:04] <_StefanS_> puppetmaster: cause its corrupted.
[01:04] <sylvisj> hahahahaha
[01:04] <puppetmaster> it's 400 mb
[01:04] <sylvisj> downloading warez movies ftl
[01:04] <puppetmaster> Is there any other solution
[01:04] <sylvisj> puppetmaster: download manager
[01:04] <sylvisj> puppetmaster: use one next time. Start downloading :)
[01:05] <puppetmaster> thanks anyway
[01:05] <reiki> ok... I installed Kubuntu last night. I can't get my Epson R200 installed. It's not in the list of printers in the add printer wizard. Works great under gnome, but I'd like to try KDE. Anyone got a clue for me?
[01:07] <q1w2e3r4> May someone help me with knetworkmanager on feisty?
[01:07] <q1w2e3r4> How can i import this settings?: http://nopaste.info/fc7429bedf.html
[01:16] <szczurek> Hi
[01:16] <kaiser> hi
[01:17] <kaiser> i need help...is there some kind of linux software which can scan my registry in search of errors?
[01:17] <szczurek> sory i can nothelp
[01:17] <szczurek> i am begin usr
[01:17] <kaiser> :)
[01:18] <szczurek> from are you ??
[01:18] <szczurek> bay ;)
[01:20] <q1w2e3r4> Noone time to help me?
[01:20] <rumen> hello
[01:20] <q1w2e3r4> hi
[01:20] <q1w2e3r4> may u help me with knetworkmanager? im trying to use an internetconnection of a windows-network
[01:20] <rumen> Can anyone enlighten me how to fix these darn ati drivers?
[01:21] <q1w2e3r4> This is the configuration of the network on a windows-machine: http://nopaste.info/fc7429bedf.html
[01:21] <q1w2e3r4> This is my conf: http://nopaste.info/a1702f6837.html
[01:21] <q1w2e3r4> But i dont get a connection :-D
[01:26] <dettoaltrimenti_> how do I use sed to remove every line in a txt file that has a semicolon at the end of the line?
[01:31] <ernst> q1w2e3r4: can you be more specific about the error you get
[01:32] <q1w2e3r4> ernst: Thats the thing i dontknow. There iss just no connection
[01:32] <q1w2e3r4> eth0 is working but i dont have a connection to the internet
[01:32] <scarvell> i need someone who can help me on an apache2 + mod_rewrite issue
[01:33] <ernst> what have you already tried to get a connection
[01:33] <dettoaltrimenti_> q1w2e3r4- what are you using to connect to the internet- cable, dsl, dialup? wireless or hardwired
[01:33] <dromer> dettoaltrimenti_: reboot fixed it <_<
[01:34] <dettoaltrimenti_> dromer sweet
[01:34] <dromer> not relaly, I hate to reboot <_<
[01:34] <q1w2e3r4> LAN Connection, should reach a dsl-router
[01:34] <JuJuBee> How do I get a route to remain in my routing table after a restart?
[01:34] <dettoaltrimenti_> q1w2e3r4 so are you saying the computer says you are connected, but you can't use the internet?
[01:35] <q1w2e3r4> Well, at least the Knetworkmanager finds any activity on eth0
[01:35] <dettoaltrimenti_> with dsl modems you have to use pppoe (you should have a name and a password) and you need to install pppoeconf for it to work
[01:36] <q1w2e3r4> no dsl-modem
[01:36] <q1w2e3r4> LAN-Connection
[01:36] <q1w2e3r4> i wanna use the active connection of an internetcafe
[01:37] <dettoaltrimenti_> and there is no name and password you need to use?
[01:38] <q1w2e3r4> yeah, thats right
[01:46] <peer> hii!
[01:46] <peer> ich hab da mal ne frage
[01:46] <peer> mein ssh sagt stndig permission denied. Obwohl ich zu 100% das richtige PW eingebe? Wisst ihr was das sein knnte?
[01:47] <Tm_T> !de | peer
[01:47] <ubotu> peer: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:47] <Tm_T> peer: english here thanks
[01:47] <peer> : (
[01:48] <Timsen> peer just enter a /join #kubuntu-de
[01:50] <JuJuBee> Can someone tell me how to enter a permanent route in my routing table?
[02:16] <crazy_penguin> Hi all!
[02:22] <myky> all: hi i install feista now and i have problem my konqueror dont load internet page :( known anyone where is problem?
[02:23] <msoeken> i heard that aiglx is enabled by default in feisty. is that true?
[02:28] <snap> my add remove programs seems hung up trying to add scribus.....how do i kill the task?
[02:30] <stuart_> snap - start system guard, find the adept process and click the kill button
[02:30] <snap> thx....
[02:31] <stuart_> kdemenu->system>ksysguard
[02:31] <snap> ahh im in gnome
[02:32] <stuart_> sorry
[02:32] <snap> ahh there it is found it
[02:37] <fatmike> hi room
[02:38] <fatmike> i hav a question
[02:38] <fatmike> how can i display the timestamps in dmesg an log file to a human readable one?
[02:38] <fatmike> on my system is is displayed as: [ 4219.772000]  usb 4-5: USB disconnect, address 4
[02:38] <fatmike> for example
[02:56] <M_Fatih> hi everybody
[02:56] <M_Fatih> how can i add mp3 support to kaffeine cd encoder?
[02:58] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[03:02] <busfahrer> Anybody here using the mplayerthumbs addon?
[03:12] <markc> would anyone happen to know what the xorg equiv of /usr/X11R6/include is ?
[03:12] <M_Fatih> how can i rip my audio cd to mp3 ?
[03:14] <goldenear> M_Fatih: with konqueror I guess... juste look in the mp3 "virtual" directory in you audio CD
[03:15] <M_Fatih> o shit. it's great
[03:15] <M_Fatih> :)
[03:18] <busfahrer> markc: Have you tried /usr/include/X11
[03:18] <markc> busfahrer, thanks, that seems like a good call :)
[03:19] <markc> busfahrer, especially after installing libx11-dev, that helps too
[03:24] <BluesKaj> hey gents, I recently had to reinstall Feisty on / (hda2). However, the /home partition (hda3) , gives me errors at bootup, then proceeds to check the partition, then goes back to the prompt,where I have to exit from it in order to boot into kubuntu ...how do i find what the errors are in hda3 to correct them ?
[03:26] <aldin> BluesKaj: you could do this: in /etc/fstab -> /dev/hda3       /home    ext3    defaults        0       2
[03:26] <aldin> BluesKaj: before that comment the "uuid" line
[03:27] <BluesKaj> ok aldin , I'l give that a try...thx
[03:31] <jussi01> is there a manual way i can check for updates? like update manager on gnome?
[03:33] <Lynoure> jussi01: at least sudo apt-get update
[03:33] <Lynoure> jussi01: that pops up an adept for you if anything new is there.
[03:33] <jussi01> oh, ok...
[03:33] <Zero|Basti> hallo, kann mir villeicht kurz jemand mitphp helfen?
[03:33] <Lynoure> (or adept applett, I meant)
[03:34] <scarvell> can anyone help me with enabling mod_rewrite?
[03:34] <scarvell> i have enabled it
[03:34] <Lynoure> Zero|Basti: Sorry, I do not speak German that well and this is not a php coding channel, try on #kubuntu-de if it is about Kubuntu or #php for php
[03:35] <scarvell> and changed /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[03:35] <Zero|Basti> ok, thank you
[03:35] <scarvell> and set Allowoverride All
[03:35] <scarvell> however
[03:35] <scarvell> when i restart apache
[03:35] <scarvell> i get "Forbidden"
[03:35] <scarvell> anywhere i go on it
[03:35] <_4strO> Zero|Basti: ask in english if you want
[03:35] <scarvell> if i change it back to None
[03:35] <scarvell> and restart the server its fine
[03:35] <scarvell> :/
[03:35] <scarvell> WHY?!
[03:35] <scarvell> :(
[03:36] <Zero|Basti> i think my english is too bad to explain it in english
[03:36] <jussi01> !enter | scarvell
[03:36] <ubotu> scarvell: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:36] <_4strO> Zero|Basti: ok
[03:36] <Lynoure> Zero|Basti: you can always try. :) No harm trying
[03:36] <scarvell> sorry
[03:37] <scarvell> i been at this for 4 hours now
[03:37] <scarvell> and its late
[03:38] <Zero|Basti> ok...i have a html file which has an input and it shoul have an output.  there should be a php file which calculates. at the moment, i can display the result in the php file but not give it back to the html formua
[03:39] <scarvell> some help channel...
[03:40] <jussi01> scarvell: im sorry but this place is dead right now
[03:40] <_4strO> Zero|Basti: just include your html file in the php file
[03:40] <scarvell> and why cant any of you guys here help?
[03:40] <jussi01> scarvell: If i could help I would, but I am reasonably unfamiliar with apache
[03:41] <scarvell> ok
[03:41] <_4strO> scarvell: are you sure your url rewriting didn't work ?
[03:41] <jussi01> scarvell: probably because most of the people leave themselves logged in, even when they are not here
[03:41] <scarvell> _4strO: yes
[03:41] <scarvell> well
[03:42] <Zero|Basti> hm i have this in my table data (for example):<input type="text" name="wafver" size=3 maxlength=3>
[03:42] <scarvell> ok, so basically i edit 000-default and i set the Allowoveride to All
[03:42] <Zero|Basti> then i click at submit and gan operate whith these variables in my php file
[03:42] <scarvell> like the tutorials say, however once i do that and restart the server. I get nothing but "Forbidden" on the webserver no matter where i go
[03:43] <Zero|Basti> but i dont' know how i can give back the result to my html
[03:43] <_4strO> Zero|Basti: many ways are possible
[03:44] <Werty> HI
[03:44] <_4strO> Zero|Basti: look at the header function
[03:45] <Werty> So who do you think will win the EPL?
[03:45] <_4strO> EPL ?
[03:46] <marcreichelt> hi there
[03:46] <marcreichelt> how can I configure a VPN with KNetworkManager?
[03:48] <marcreichelt> I've installed 'network-manager-vpnc', but if I click on 'Configure VPN' in KNetworkManager, nothing happens
[03:48] <Zero|Basti> hm i don't know what you mean with look at the header funktion
[03:49] <_4strO> Zero|Basti: in the php website
[03:51] <Aurvandill> My external HD used to show up properly. Now it shows up as an empty directory. If I turn it off and on, it asks me if I want to open it. When I do, it appears to be empty.
[03:52] <Aurvandill> What might be wrong? I used some program to mount all my partitions automatically, which is when it stopped showing its content.
[03:55] <marcreichelt> is it possible to start KNetworkManager in a 'debug' mode?
[03:55] <kenda> hola
[03:55] <marcreichelt> if so, perhaps I can see what problem occurs
[03:55] <BluesKaj> aldin , no luck ...comenting the uuid line in fstab merely withdrew access to /home
[03:56] <Zero|Basti> sry, i don't know what i have to serch for...
[03:56] <aldin> BluesKaj: didi u add line i gave u?
[03:56] <BluesKaj> yes
[03:57] <_4strO> Zero|Basti: http://www.php.net/manual/de/function.header.php
[03:57] <Zero|Basti> ok, thx
[03:57] <Kubuntu> Is it any good Wireless ntework managers for Kubuntu?
[03:57] <Skrot> Kubuntu: knetworkmanager
[03:57] <aldin> BluesKaj: UUID=404114f9-c300-436a-80b1-33cb487f5ad0 /media/hda9     ext3    defaults        0       2
[03:57] <BluesKaj> the error says that hda3 /home doesn't have apt installed and it seems to be checking for a bash shell
[03:58] <Kubuntu> Knetworkmanager won't let me choose over a list of networks.
[03:58] <Skrot> uh
[03:58] <Skrot> It does here
[03:58] <BluesKaj> aldin, hda9 ?
[03:58] <aldin> BluesKaj: thats mine... just sec
[03:58] <marcreichelt> hmm
[03:58] <BluesKaj> :)
[03:59] <marcreichelt> 'knetworkmanager --nofork' does not give any information
[03:59] <marcreichelt> and -v also is not useful
[04:00] <aldin> BluesKaj: before -> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/17214/ after -> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/17215/
[04:02] <marcreichelt> ahh!
[04:03] <marcreichelt> I have looked in the source-code, and found out that KNetworkManager starts a process 'nm-vpn-properties' for this
[04:03] <icecruncher> is there any site with like cool software foor linux noods, either essential or recoomended...?
[04:03] <marcreichelt> then I tried to start that one from a shell
[04:04] <marcreichelt> "The program 'nm-vpn-properties' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome"
[04:06] <gan|y|med> hi
[04:07] <HumpBack> Hello
[04:07] <dbedana> shhhh
[04:07] <gan|y|med> i wanna mount my external hard drive with udv etc. it works, but it assigns different dirs each time the partitions get mounted. so i added them to fstab, but now it doesn't get mounted at all
[04:07] <icecruncher> dbedana?
[04:07] <icecruncher> what?
[04:07] <HumpBack> Under feisty when I connect a USB<->RS232 adapter to my laptop brltty gets started
[04:08] <dbedana> ^^
[04:08] <HumpBack> usb 2-1: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by ftdi_sio while 'brltty' sets config #1
[04:08] <HumpBack> [  865.744000]  ftdi_sio ttyUSB0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
[04:08] <HumpBack> [  865.748000]  ftdi_sio 2-1:1.0: device disconnected
[04:08] <HumpBack> How do i remove this?
[04:08] <HumpBack> So that i can use the serial port
[04:09] <_4strO> !ntfs
[04:09] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:09] <_4strO> !ntfs-3g
[04:09] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:10] <dbedana> how do i change channel?
[04:11] <icecruncher> dbedana: "/join #channel"
[04:11] <dbedana> can u give me a cool channel to go to
[04:12] <marcreichelt> dbedana: /join #kubuntu
[04:12] <marcreichelt> ;)
[04:12] <dbedana> awtz, hehe
[04:12] <dbedana> ill try
[04:13] <gan|y|med> i do not want to use the mount command or have devices on my desktop. how can i make them be recognised by udev??? (it worked it edgy)
[04:13] <reiki_work> where is a good place to go to learn my way around in KDE? I have been using Ubuntu (gnome) since 2005, but I get lost in KDE
[04:13] <apokryphos> !search userguide
[04:13] <ubotu> Found: kdeguide
[04:14] <apokryphos> !kdeguide | reiki_work
[04:14] <ubotu> reiki_work: See http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/userguide/index.html for a guide to using KDE
[04:14] <Skrot> reiki_work: Or just play around with it for a while, and ask when you're stuck
[04:14] <reiki_work> thanks... apokryphos you're here too? :)  you're EVERYWHERE
[04:14] <Doctor_Nick> why does azureus and ktorrent crash every time I try to download a torrent with a large number of files
[04:16] <dbedana> ?join 100 channel
[04:16] <reiki_work> Skrot: I'm still at a stage where I don't know where to look for teh update notifier icon, the add printer wizard opened but it didn't have my Epson R200 in the list so I had to use teh cup admin web thing to install a printer... I can't find the proprietary software manager like in gnome...
[04:17] <reiki_work> I haven't installed the nvidia drivers yet, hehehe... I feel like I'm starting over! :)
[04:17] <Skrot> reiki_work: The update notifier icon will present itself in the system tray when there are updates avalible, usually found in the bottom right corner
[04:18] <danb> hehe
[04:18] <gan|y|med> ok, how do i get udev to mount my partitions automatically WITH an entry in fstab???
[04:19] <Skrot> reiki_work: Regarding the proprietary software installer I don't know, since I haven't installed feisty yet because my hard drive is dead :p
[04:21] <_4strO> !ntfs
[04:21] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:22] <_4strO> !ntfs-3g
[04:22] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:23] <gan|y|med> is this for me?
[04:24] <marcreichelt> btw, is there a log file for the NetworkManager?
[04:24] <ubuntu> Hello all.
[04:24] <marcreichelt> the WPA network from my university does not work, and I would like to now why
[04:25] <gan|y|med> does nobody know how to make the automounter recognise my external partitions and somehow convince it to mount them at the exact same place each time i plug in the device
[04:25] <gan|y|med> ?
[04:25] <ubuntu> I have Kubuntu 7.04 running and I'd like to have my Computer, Trash icon etc on the desktop.  How do I do this, I can't find any options?
[04:26] <Doctor_Nick> GDSAGSADGASDG
[04:26] <_4strO> no doubt Doctor_Nick
[04:27] <cibershop> hola
[04:27] <cibershop> en espanol?
[04:27] <Doctor_Nick> no
[04:28] <cibershop> beryl con kubuntu
[04:28] <Doctor_Nick> cibershop: #ubuntu-es
[04:28] <jussi01> !es | cibershop:
[04:28] <ubotu> cibershop:: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:28] <cibershop> ok
[04:28] <cibershop> gracias
[04:28] <cibershop> good bye
[04:28] <Doctor_Nick> no prob bob
[04:30] <Ikawe> can anyone help me with chinese input?
[04:30] <icecruncher> is there any site with like cool software foor linux noods, either essential or recoomended...?
[04:30] <jussi01> !ch
[04:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:30] <Ikawe> !zh
[04:30] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[04:31] <Ikawe> but im not looking for help in Chinese.
[04:31] <Ikawe> im looking for help inputting chinese
[04:31] <jussi01> Ikawe: you speak chinese?
[04:32] <otaku42> trying to install kubuntu 7.04 on an acer travelmate 2483 fails for me. if i choose manual partioning, the installer quits after clicking on next. if i choose "use largest free space", it quits after i entered my name etc. this can be reproduced.
[04:32] <otaku42> is that a known problem? at least on https://wiki.kubuntu.com/KubuntuFeistyKnownProblems it's obviously not mentioned.
[04:32] <otaku42> hints welcome.
[04:33] <jussi01> otaku42: have you checked the md5 of the iso/disk?
[04:33] <otaku42> jussi01: not yet, but will do so now. reboot with the "check cd" option from the boot menu is enough?
[04:34] <jussi01> otaku42: also what speed did you burn at? you might have a dud disk...
[04:34] <jussi01> otaku42: i would check the md5 of the iso you burnt from
[04:35] <otaku42> jussi01: burning speed was 10x, i burnt the image on a cd-rw (with nero on a windows box). nero checked the resulting cd and found no obvious error, btw.
[04:36] <fladd> hi there, can anyone tell me, how to make mounted drives to appear on the desktop
[04:37] <jussi01> fladd: mount them in fstab
[04:37] <jussi01> !fstab
[04:37] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:37] <fladd> they aree mounted
[04:37] <fladd> I can access them already in konqueror
[04:37] <otaku42> jussi01: md5sum of the iso is correct, now checking via boot menu
[04:38] <jussi01> fladd: sorry, right click on the desktop and configure
[04:38] <fladd> jussi01: i did that, but nothing changes, thats the problem actually :-)
[04:38] <jussi01> then behaviour and device icons tab
[04:39] <jussi01> fladd: so you slected mounted hard disk ?
[04:39] <fladd> jussi01: yeah, the "show mounted harddisks" and "show unmounted harddisks" are both ticked
[04:39] <jussi01> and clicked apply?
[04:39] <fladd> yes
[04:40] <jussi01> try logging out?
[04:40] <marcreichelt> ah
[04:40] <marcreichelt> the log entries of NetworkManager are in /var/log/daemon.log :-)
[04:40] <fladd> okay, hang on
[04:41] <Ace2016> Anyone know any mouseconfig apps, i need to turn on horizontal scrolling
[04:41] <Ace2016> ?
[04:41] <Ace2016> I can't scroll horizontally :(
[04:41] <Ace2016> its an Acrox mouse with a ball instead of a scroll wheel
[04:42] <jussi01> yeah there is one for synaptic touchpads, but i cant remember the name of it...
[04:42] <jussi01> oh
[04:42] <jussi01> hi fladd
[04:42] <fladd> jussi01: yeah, there we are! guess it was just too easy :-) thanks
[04:42] <jussi01> hehe, np
[04:44] <wolferine> when using Gparted Live, are you able to resize a partition (hopefully without losing data) ?
[04:45] <jussi01> wolferine: as long as its not a mounted partition
[04:46] <otaku42> jussi01: cd check says: "no errors found"
[04:46] <wolferine> jussi01, I beleive thats why u usin g the Live CD?
[04:46] <gnomefreak> wolferine: whenever you re partition you are subjecting yourself to lose of data
[04:46] <wolferine> use*
[04:46] <jussi01> otaku42: then i have no idea...
[04:46] <Skrot> Does kubuntu feisty support the same proprietary software installed (for nVidia drivers for instance) as ubuntu does?
[04:46] <wolferine> gnomefreak, the reason for adding the "hopefully"
[04:47] <gnomefreak> wolferine: remember backup
[04:47] <jussi01> wolferine: yes, i have done so succesfully before
[04:47] <otaku42> jussi01: trying again... murphy knows, maybe it works now.
[04:47] <jussi01> otaku42: fingers crossed
[04:48] <otaku42> jussi01: thx. trying "safe graphics" now... wouldn't expect a difference from it really, but...
[04:48] <fladd> jussi01: do you know any way to rename those devices on the desktop? because now they are calles something like "10GB Medium" and so on
[04:50] <jussi01> fladd: i had the same question...
[04:50] <jussi01> otaku42: good luck
[04:50] <wolferine> fladd, those devices?
[04:50] <jussi01> fladd: i still dont have an answer
[04:50] <dac> LjL thanks for helping me the other day.
[04:50] <jussi01> wolferine: mounted hdd's and samba shares etc...
[04:51] <wolferine> well, you need to probably be sudo to rename them
[04:51] <fladd> wolferine: yes, how to rename them? or actually "where"?
[04:51] <wolferine> so open a shell, and move to your desktop and rename?
[04:52] <fladd> wolferine: they are not listed in the shell
[04:52] <wolferine> fladd, are they files on your filesystem?
[04:52] <fladd> no
[04:52] <fladd> i guess that they are kde specific
[04:52] <wolferine> fladd, then you would need to rename them at the source
[04:52] <fladd> what source?
[04:53] <wolferine> if they are not on your filesystem, then I am guessing they are in a remote location
[04:53] <fladd> trying to rename them on the desktop leads to an error message telling me I cannot do this
[04:53] <wolferine> fladd,  as I said before, you have to rename them as sudo
[04:53] <wolferine> or called root
[04:54] <wolferine> do you know that there is a /desktop dir in your user's /home dir, at /home/user/desktop ?
[04:54] <Last_Hero> is is possible to enable read/write permissions for an NTFS partition permanently, so I can save files there without having to invoke sudo every time?
[04:55] <wolferine> and if you cd /home/user/desktop then do sudo cp first_file new_file_name
[04:55] <wolferine> Last_Hero, remote system, or local?
[04:55] <jussi01> !ntfs-3g | Last_Hero
[04:55] <ubotu> Last_Hero: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:55] <Last_Hero> wolferine, local (it's my XP install on the same hard disk)
[04:55] <wolferine> then check the link above
[04:56] <Last_Hero> do I need to install that? even though Feisty has support for NTFS?
[04:56] <wolferine> you might be able to set it up as an NFS share
[04:56] <wolferine> Last_Hero, you might just want to read it over...
[04:56] <otaku42> jussi01: thanks for crossing your fingers, that seems to help... looks good so far *knocks on wood*
[04:57] <fladd> wolferine: Well, as I said before, the entries are not listed in the Desktop directory.
[04:57] <jussi01> otaku42: excellent, btw which graphics card you using?
[04:57] <wolferine> fladd, ls -la instead of just ls
[04:57] <otaku42> jussi01: the one that's build in the intel 950 chipset of the notebook
[04:58] <Chowderpilot> hey all, how can you tell what name (ttyS0, etc) Ubuntu has given your Serial port?
[04:58] <wolferine> fladd, that work, I have to run
[04:58] <jussi01> otaku42: that should work out of the box...
[04:58] <fladd> wolferine: so i cannot rename them using the shell, since the shell will not see them. I tried showing the hidden files already, they are just not there
[04:58] <wolferine> fladd, ls -la
[04:59] <fladd> wolferine: anf again: ls -la is not showing anything inside the Desktop directory
[04:59] <wolferine> fladd, right click the icon on the desktop, then click properties
[04:59] <wolferine> you will see something with a few tabs, select the Basic
[05:00] <wolferine> then tell me, where is the "location"
[05:00] <fladd> wolferine: renaming them there does not work, it returns an error
[05:00] <wolferine> fladd, pls follow my instructions... :)
[05:00] <michael> Is there a copy key shortcut in linux?
[05:00] <fladd> okay
[05:00] <wolferine> michael, a few
[05:01] <wolferine> michael, you can copy/paste via two methods
[05:01] <wolferine> michael, you can select the text, then press the middl mouse button to paste
[05:01] <fladd> wolferine: what location do you want to know? the drives are at /media of course
[05:01] <wolferine> michael, or you can select text, press ctrl-c/ctrl-x (to copy/cut) then ctrl-v
[05:02] <wolferine> fladd, right click the icon on the desktop, then click properties
[05:02] <wolferine> fladd, you will see something with a few tabs, select the Basic
[05:02] <wolferine> fladd, then tell me, where is the "location"
[05:02] <wolferine> fladd, you reading what I wrote?
[05:02] <horde> Please noone kick me for saying this, but I just had a bad cluster prob with my vfat partition that fsck (seemingly) couldn't fix...but chkdsk in Windoze could.  Does Win handle vfat better than linux?
[05:03] <wolferine> horde, you must be used to EFnet
[05:03] <fladd> okay, location is /media/hda5
[05:03] <wolferine> horde, we dont kick for "windoze" questions
[05:03] <wolferine> fladd, so that is NOT a remote drive, its a local disk
[05:03] <horde> wolferine: sorry, I posted to Slashdot once and since then I'm sensitive ;)
[05:03] <fladd> ahm, yes, why should it be remote device?
[05:03] <wolferine> horde, hehe :)
[05:04] <d0uglas> Hi. Want to go dual-head on my laptop with an extended virtual desktop or whatever to a separate monitor. lspci says i got an Intel 82852/855GM. Do I want xinerama? twinview?
[05:04] <wolferine> fladd, I really dont think you have been paying attention
[05:04] <wolferine> fladd, what is its name on the desktop (the name you want to change it from)
[05:05] <wolferine> fladd, man mount
[05:05] <wolferine> i have to run
[05:05] <fladd> one is: "/", the other one is "10GB-Medium (sda1)" and the last one is "42GB-Medium (sda5)"
[05:05] <Chowderpilot> hey all, how can you tell what name (ttyS0, etc) Ubuntu has given your Serial port?
[05:06] <Riddell> open week in #ubuntu-classroom
[05:06] <judgen> dang, my install uses up 8gb space...
[05:06] <judgen> the /usr folder alone is over 1,2gb
[05:07] <fladd> very funny, I think wolferine was talking about something completely different :-)
[05:08] <judgen> I tried dolphin today, and i must say. Im impressed.
[05:08] <the_ringmaster> Help I screwed up my computer when installing nvidia
[05:09] <the_ringmaster> I installed the nvidia-glx package and then went to the system settings  and changed the driver from nv to nvidia
[05:09] <the_ringmaster> I restarted x and now I am stuck with a very low resolution
[05:10] <dac> no you didn't ,try again ring_master
[05:10] <judgen> the_ringmaster: have you tried to do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?
[05:10] <the_ringmaster> would that help?
[05:10] <judgen> to see if the module is listed
[05:10] <judgen> i think youve note installed nvidia drivers properly
[05:10] <the_ringmaster> brb I will try that code
[05:11] <gan|y|med> . i tried to mount it traditionally, but i get "only root can mount..." how do i fix this again?
[05:11] <judgen> Anyone know the name of that icon set with most osx icons working
[05:11] <tictactatic> judgen, do you know a way how to change the default file manager in kde?
[05:11] <judgen> gan|y|med: tried using "sudo" before the mount command =P
[05:12] <otaku42> ooook. isn't the installer expected to give a final screen telling something like "i'm done now, friend, you may want to reboot your system now" once it's finished its work?
[05:12] <judgen> otaku42: the ubuntu installer or some app installer?
[05:13] <jussi01> otaku42: yeah, it give the the you can go back to the live cd dialouge...
[05:13] <the_ringmaster> what was that code again?
[05:13] <otaku42> judgen: the kubuntu installer.
[05:13] <jussi01> the_ringmaster: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:13] <otaku42> jussi01: hmm... then i guess something went wrong. it showed some progress bar, then suddenly the installer disappered from the screen. doh!
[05:14] <jussi01> doh...
[05:14] <jussi01> otaku42: have you got a spare cd? i would try burning another one...
[05:15] <jussi01> at a slower speed
[05:15] <otaku42> jussi01: i guess i just try to boot into the install and see what happens. if that doesn't work i go with another cd.
[05:15] <the_ringmaster> Is there another code for it
[05:15] <gan|y|med> judgen: found it. it's the user option in fstab. i should finaly memorise this...
[05:16] <Doctor_Nick> ok
[05:16] <the_ringmaster> I have installed nvidia-glx, now what
[05:16] <rob_> my kubuntu cant always write ,  and  - any ideas how to fix it ?
[05:16] <otaku42> jussi01: obviously the installation did not finish. no grub installed, instead winxp starts.
[05:16] <otaku42> jussi01: ok, another cd then... tomorrow. i give up for today :)
[05:17] <jussi01> otaku42: doh!!
[05:17] <jussi01> otaku42: good luck
[05:17] <otaku42> jussi01: at least winxp still starts as it did before ;)
[05:18] <otaku42> jussi01: thx. will try from a new cd-r (not rw) tomorrow.
[05:18] <jussi01> heh
[05:18] <otaku42> jussi01: thx for your help so far.
[05:18] <the_ringmaster> what do I do after installing nvidia-glx package
[05:18] <jussi01> otaku42: you didnt say it was rw
[05:18] <otaku42> jussi01: i did :)
[05:18] <jussi01> that most likely is your problem
[05:18] <otaku42> jussi01: why?
[05:19] <jussi01> otaku42: i dont know, just a lot of ppl have issues with rw cd's and installs...
[05:20] <the_ringmaster> what should I Do?
[05:20] <otaku42> jussi01: good to know, thanks for the hint.
[05:20] <Columcille> the_ringmaster: If you're doing what I think you're doing, open up System Settings, click Monitor and Display, go to Admin mode, click Hardware, click Configure next to your card, make sure it's got the right card, click Proprietary on the right, click ok a couple of times, and re-start X
[05:21] <jussi01> the_ringmaster: its kind of quiet as the classroom session is on...
[05:22] <wolferine> can I add to my "/" partition?
[05:22] <wolferine> its a logical partition I beleive
[05:22] <wolferine> without removing my OS?
[05:22] <Graham> wolferine: You mean increase the size?
[05:22] <wolferine> correct graham
[05:23] <Graham> Yeah you can change the size of partitions without affecting the OS, so long as the HD has space after.
[05:23] <wolferine> Graham, thats not what I asked
[05:23] <wolferine> can I change the size of my logical partition
[05:24] <wolferine> not an extended
[05:24] <Graham> I don't think it matters.
[05:24] <Graham> Wait when you say logical...
[05:24] <Graham> Nevermind.
[05:24] <wolferine> Graham, it does matter
[05:27] <Graham> wolferine: If you know then what's the fucking point in asking?
[05:27] <the_ringmaster> why isn't this nvidia driver working?
[05:27] <wolferine> !language | Graham
[05:27] <ubotu> Graham: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:28] <Columcille> the_ringmaster: Did you try what I mentioned?
[05:28] <thefirstdude> I have now decided you aren't related to my favorite snack
[05:28] <the_ringmaster> what did you say I forget
[05:29] <Columcille> ...
[05:29] <Columcille> the_ringmaster: If you're doing what I think you're doing, open up System Settings, click Monitor and Display, go to Admin mode, click Hardware, click Configure next to your card, make sure it's got the right card, click Proprietary on the right, click ok a couple of times, and re-start X
[05:30] <the_ringmaster> That is what I did in the beginning. FYI: my card isn't even listed there
[05:31] <Columcille> not sure then
[05:31] <the_ringmaster> I just did a glxgears and it does seem like the graphics driver is working
[05:31] <the_ringmaster> now how do I fix this resolution problem it caused?
[05:31] <the_ringmaster> My resolution should be 1280-1024
[05:32] <acemo> manually add the resoution in xorg.conf?
[05:32] <Columcille> when I installed the nvidia driver, it then had trouble recognizing my monitor
[05:32] <Columcille> I had to go into xorg.conf and set things manually
[05:32] <Columcille> not sure why it had monitor issues
[05:32] <the_ringmaster> would it help if i posted my xorg.conf file here
[05:32] <azraeI> I just updated my Kubuntu to Feisty. All went fine, in the end I was asked to reboot. when trying to reboot, right at the start after the menu, nothing happens for severak minutes, then I get a busybox shell and the message "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off". The hardware is a lenovo T60. Any ideas??
[05:34] <nbcb> why does my kb3 unable to clone my vcd to a disc? it says multiple track not supported
[05:35] <wolferine> nbcb, maybe trying asking in #tovid
[05:36] <Yorokobi> azraeI, google the error message, there's a fix for that in one of the linux-related forums
[05:36] <CVirus> azraeI: isn't azrael a fallen angel or sumthing ?
[05:37] <CVirus> azraeI: #Kubuntu-offtopic .. you mind ?
[05:40] <CVirus> azraeI: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=292533
[05:40] <nbcb> they are sleeping
[05:40] <Kubuntu> Can I make the login so that I won't have to write the login name?
[05:42] <acemo> anyone here can help me with sed?
[05:42] <Dr_willis> kde has a auto-login feature for KDM.   and i think it has a rember last name feature as well..
[05:42] <Dr_willis> !kdm
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <Dr_willis> Hmm theres a kdm control setting tool. but i forget its name
[05:42] <Dr_willis> !find kdm
[05:42] <ubotu> Found: kdm, kde-kdm-themes, kdmtheme
[05:43] <the_ringmaster> well guys I have had some luck
[05:43] <azraeI> CVirus: Thanks. will try that stuff and hope it magically works.
[05:43] <the_ringmaster> I did what you said and then did this command sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:44] <CVirus> azraeI: no problem
[05:45] <the_ringmaster> that command got me up to 1024-768
[05:48] <sdlnxgk> what is up with Feisty??? can't uninstall certain packages because they are linked to kubuntu-desktop???
[05:49] <Dr_willis> sdlnxgk,  thats a meta package.  removing kubuntu-desktop wont hurt anything.
[05:49] <Dr_willis> or at least it shouldent.
[05:50] <Skrot> It's like that in edgy as well
[05:50] <Skrot> Nothing to worry about :)
[05:51] <the_ringmaster> should I use the envy script to install and set up nvidia?
[05:51] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis, thanks was worried it was gonna uninstall all of kubuntu and leave me with a blinking cursor :)
[05:51] <wolferine> i want to increase the size of my primary partition, without deleting it, can I do that with Gparted?
[05:51] <sdlnxgk> So far i'm liking feisty :)
[05:51] <Dr_willis> sdlnxgk,  yea. they got so much stuff in kubuntu-desktop that i dont think should be in there.. but thats how it is.
[05:51] <Skrot> For those of you who use feisty; does it sport the same new easy codec and easy binary blob features as ubuntu, only in a Qt4/KDE app?
[05:52] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis, ya I agree and I use other stuff that seems to work better like vlc player works right out of the box :)
[05:52] <HaokaH> hi trkce konuan yok mu yaaa
[05:52] <Dr_willis> I perfer to remove openoffice from the start. :)
[05:53] <Skrot> !tr
[05:53] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[05:53] <sdlnxgk> ya I agree I use star office myself
[05:54] <sdlnxgk> ok time to install 3D nvidia drivers :)
[05:54] <Skrot> In other words; kubuntu feisty doesnt fix that like ubuntu feisty supposedly does?
[05:59] <Dr_willis> I just use abiword. :)
[05:59] <Skrot> kword =)
[05:59] <Dr_willis> Skrot,  the various media players asked/installed some of the codecs for me when i started them
[05:59] <Skrot> okay, amarok tried to install mp3 support but failed :>
[05:59] <Skrot> running the live-cd now
[05:59] <Skrot> since my hdd is dead
[06:00] <Dr_willis> Skrot,  i had that issue as well.. try running amarok as root. or perhaps run it from a terminal
[06:00] <Dr_willis>  i got it to do it.. but im not sure HOW i did it.
[06:00] <Last_Hero> Skrot, get the Mp3 support from Adept
[06:00] <Skrot> I know
[06:01] <Skrot> I don't really need mp3-support with the live cd, i just wanted to check if it works
[06:01] <Skrot> Flash-installation in Konqueror worked well though
[06:01] <groo_> hello/2 all, any (k)ubuntu developers alive?
[06:02] <herbcharl> hello I am new to kubuntu
[06:02] <Dr_willis> Skrot,  oh? i dident see it do that. :)
[06:02] <Dr_willis> Skrot,  at this rate we will Kill off those EasyScript/Automatix disasters soon! :)
[06:02] <groo_> could anyone tell me how to change the timeout in gphoto2 libs?
[06:02] <Dr_willis> Skrot,  how about Java?
[06:02] <Skrot> yeah =)
[06:02] <Skrot> Haven't tried java yet
[06:03] <Dr_willis> I wonder why they just dont automate installin that stuff on the first boot.. Proberly 'legal' reasons.
[06:03] <Skrot> yupp. At least with mp3-codec etc
[06:04] <groo_> is anyone able to add a local printer in kubuntu using cups (kprinter, gnomeprinter)
[06:04] <nbcb> when i insert a vcd, it doesn't auto detect, how do i list all ym devies? i tried fdisk -l but shown nothing
[06:05] <herbcharl> hi toyman
[06:05] <ToyMan> hi
[06:06] <herbcharl> got to go now bye
[06:06] <wolferine> let me understand this correctly, can I upgrade to Feisty, using the CD?
[06:06] <wolferine> or do I have to do a clean, new install
[06:06] <wolferine> (w/o accessing the internet)
[06:06] <akrus> can someone tell me if Gutsy is now available for testing?
[06:07] <akrus> asked almost everywhere xD
[06:07] <wolferine> akrus, I am sure it is
[06:07] <wolferine> check the forums?
[06:07] <groo_> is anyone able to add a local printer (USB) in kubuntu using cups (kprinter, gnomeprinter)
[06:07] <Skrot> I'd imagine gutsy is about the same as feisty right now..
[06:07] <wolferine> groo_, no need to post each minute
[06:07] <Skrot> Give them a couple of months to acctually develop something new to test ;)
[06:07] <groo_> wolferine: you can upgrade but is always better to do a fresh install
[06:08] <akrus> wolferine: :D
[06:08] <wolferine> groo_, with the CD directly?
[06:08] <bdesouza> hello
[06:08] <deoptima> feisty is pretty bugged on some systems my desktop server has a ton of bugs but my laptop runs flawlessly
[06:09] <gulars> are there official support for encrypting the system in feisty, like in debian etch?
[06:09] <groo_> wolferine: yes, you add the cd with apt-cdrom add and then you do a apt-get dist-upgrade, fremember that some packages might not exist if you have external repos
[06:10] <deoptima> on my server i have access when im on the LAN but now outside the lan
[06:10] <_benjo_> just installed Feisty...i'm having trouble setting up wirless with wpasupplicant..when I type knetworkmanager  in a shell, nothing happns...nothing opens....also I don't have /etc/wpasupplicant.conf file...should this file be generated automatically or do I have to configure wpa manually??
[06:10] <deoptima> Wicd worked for me
[06:11] <wolferine> groo_, the apt-cdrom add, adds the CD to my sources.list?
[06:11] <wolferine> i want to do a minimal install really, as I am lacking space
[06:12] <malik__> how to i make konqueror to display my video clips as thumbnail views?
[06:12] <gulars> anyone know if there are official support for encrypting the whole system in feisty?
[06:13] <groo_> wolferine: yes
[06:13] <groo_> gulars: yes there is.. encfs
[06:13] <markey> hmm
[06:13] <markey> my Adept in feisty is a bit weird
[06:13] <markey> check this screenie
[06:13] <markey> http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/379/snapshot1uf7.png
[06:14] <markey> the description for easytag :)
[06:14] <wolferine> groo_, i already have my CD added in my sources.list, but when I do an update (via the update manager, not cli) it dls all the packages..
[06:14] <groo_> malik__: change to icon view
[06:14] <PhinnFort> markey: wear
[06:14] <groo_> wolferine: coment the repos then, main and universal only
[06:15] <PhinnFort> and tear
[06:15] <Aurvandill> Are there any distros that use LILO as the default bootloader?
[06:15] <wolferine> groo_, true
[06:15] <PhinnFort> Aurvandill: yggdrasil, maybe?
[06:15] <malik__> groo_: it is set on icon view but its not showin the files as thumbnails.....its showin just icon of the file
[06:16] <Aurvandill> So I guess GRUB is taking over? Too bad, since Grub can't seem to find "itself" on a computer I am trying to install Ubuntu on :(
[06:16] <Aurvandill> It keeps saying Error 17
[06:18] <wolferine> my /usr/lib and /usr/share are taking up 4GB of space, anyway I can reduce that?
[06:19] <wolferine> some temp files in there, I might be able to delete?
[06:19] <crube> Does ubuntu have an integrated firewall?
[06:19] <groo_> malik__: in konqueror, view, preview, activate the video preview
[06:19] <groo_> crube: a ton... firestarter, kfirewall, etc
[06:20] <Yorokobi> crube, which all use iptables ^^^
[06:20] <soon> I want this executed at boot up : 'iwpriv ath0 mode 2' (as root) - which config/script file should I add it to?
[06:20] <crube> groo_:  I have a problem, trying to host a game of Worms Armageddon, but I wonder if the port is blocked by my computer or something else.
[06:20] <wolferine> crube, yes, iptables
[06:21] <groo_> crube: do a iptable -L as sudo and see the ports blocked
[06:21] <wolferine> crube, you can scan all your ports
[06:21] <crube> groo_:  allright thanks
[06:21] <soon> which config file?
[06:21] <wolferine> scanning localhost is of great help :)
[06:22] <mattik> What is cause that allways when I log off from kubuntu I get black screen and I have to shutdown computer by switch?
[06:22] <crube> wolferine:  how do i do that?
[06:22] <malik__> groo_: there is no opetion for video preview .....only sound clip view and different other picture opens..........any other i dea?
[06:22] <nbcb> why doesn't kubuntu detects my cd when i put in a vcd? my windows can see it
[06:22] <nbcb> i can't see it in fdisk -l, i can't mount it
[06:23] <nbcb> what's worng
[06:23] <wolferine> crube, its called Network tools, but I am using Gnome
[06:23] <wolferine> nbcb, did you talk to #tovid about it?
[06:24] <wolferine> oh, I see
[06:24] <wolferine> its not the media on the disk thats the issue
[06:24] <nbcb> ... i already burned it using cdrdao
[06:24] <wolferine> nbcb, what are you using to handle those filetypes?
[06:24] <nbcb> after burning i put it into my windows system and it dtects and play.. but kubuntu doesn't seem to read the cd or mount anything
[06:25] <wolferine> nbcb, what are you using to handle those filetypes?
[06:25] <nbcb> errr usually when i put in any cd, kubuntu will prompt me how to handle the cd.. but this time its nothing
[06:25] <wolferine> ....
[06:25] <nbcb> i want kubuntu to mount it to /media/cdrom0
[06:25] <groo_> malik__: video files preview?
[06:26] <malik__> groo_: nothin remotely mentioning video
[06:27] <groo_> malik__: go to kcontrol , desktop, behaviour.. check the video file preview
[06:28] <crube> wolferine: I didn't find a way to scan ports in any of the network settings :(
[06:29] <malik__> groo_: hate to be a nagg but there isnt any video file preview there either
[06:30] <wolferine> crube, its called "network tools" not "network settings" btw
[06:30] <MepisReign> nbcb, would u try sudo mount -v /dev/hda /media/cdrom0
[06:30] <groo_> malik__: don't know then :( should be.. ahh try installing all kde instead of only kubuntu.. apt-get install kde
[06:30] <groo_> malik__: that should do it
[06:31] <warren_> hello
[06:31] <crube> wolferine:  yeah i found it, but I couldn't find anything about ports there
[06:31] <warren_> I've installed Kubuntu 7 but I doesn't works :(
[06:31] <warren_> I have to close networkmanager to have access to i,nternetr
[06:31] <warren_> is this normal?
[06:31] <malik__> groo_: i just freshly installed fiesty
[06:32] <malik__> groo_: :(
[06:32] <malik__> groo_: thanx for trying any way mate
[06:32] <groo_> malik__: when you install feisty, kubuntu, you just installed a subset of all kde.. doing a apt-get install kde will install all of it..
[06:33] <nbcb> it just goes blinking on the cdrom light and the command hang there
[06:33] <nbcb> funny is when i put the same cd into windows it just load
[06:33] <groo_> malik__: since i installed feisty (kubuntu) and then kde, i have all the option, including the video preview ones
[06:33] <weedar> I asked someone at work about VPN and he gave me a URL with a port-number.. What vpn uses only that?
[06:33] <wolferine> crube, isnt there something to "scan" with?
[06:33] <groo_> weedar: nmap
[06:33] <wolferine> called port scan maybe
[06:33] <groo_> wolferine: nmap
[06:34] <wolferine> that doesnt sound right
[06:34] <crube> wolferine:  No, Nothing
[06:35] <wolferine> crube, http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnome-network/screenshots/info_portscan.jpg
[06:35] <weedar> groo_: won't that just reveal they have A vpn-server running, not what kind?
[06:35] <wolferine> which comes from http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnome-network/screenshots.shtml
[06:35] <weedar> also, I'm not sure running nmap is 100% legal here... =)
[06:35] <groo_> weedar: nmap usually tries to check for the system too
[06:36] <azraeI> weedar: exactly what are you trying to do?
[06:36] <groo_> weedar: port scanning is perfectly legal anywhere in the world... unless you are port scanning the CIA.. the its definitely legal :D
[06:36] <froggie> any help for a linux newbie? i'm trying to get java installed with any browser at all (i have firefox and konquerer installed right now) but i can't get it 'fixed', as a matter of speaking. ;)
[06:37] <crube> wolferine: I use KDE, and it doesn't even have a tab like that
[06:37] <froggie> i must be doing something not right, at least. lol.... any help available with that stuff? ;)
[06:37] <groo_> froggie: apt-get install sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-plugin
[06:37] <weedar> azraeI: my workplace has a vpn-solution, but all I've got is a URL and port-number. Not sure where to go from there :)
[06:37] <azraeI> groo_: a friend in switzerland got raided for port scanning at the end of last year. perfectly legal: yes.  Stupid law enforcement: yes, too
[06:38] <homero> hola
[06:38] <groo_> groo_: it depends WHAT you are port scanning
[06:38] <grothesk> Is there a known issue with DVD-support in Feisty?
[06:38] <froggie> groo_: i'll give that a try! thanks
[06:38] <homero> se puede chater en espaol?
[06:38] <azraeI> weedar: i personally use the open-src vpnc client for work vpn. At work most use windows and the cisco client. I extracted the 'secret' from the profile files and placed it in the vpnc config. thehere are public tools for decrypting the cisco profile secret
[06:39] <azraeI> groo: it shouldnt if portscanning is legal. guess we are off-topic here though
[06:41] <weedar> azraeI: so I'll have to get more information from work before I can connect?
[06:42] <azraeI> CVirus: after booting ubuntu from cd and editing /mnt/menu.list my system just booted again. In the file root=/dev/sda1 was replaced with a long uuid.  You'll need  a) the server to connect to  b) username/password
[06:43] <azraeI> c) the 'secret' too usually. ask your admin?
[06:43] <wolferine> crube I realize your using KDE
[06:43] <CVirus> azraeI: that's normal
[06:43] <wolferine> that is why I told you, I am using Gnome, in advance
[06:43] <CVirus> azraeI: that's the drive's UUID
[06:43] <weedar> azraeI: I have a) and possibly b), I'll have to ask about c) tomorrow at work. Thanks though :)
[06:44] <CVirus> azraeI: make sure your swap is working ... there is a bug IIRC
[06:44] <crube> wolferine:  Yeah I know, but in KDE I cant find a tab like that
[06:44] <wolferine> well, get the Gnome one then
[06:44] <wolferine> its very helpful
[06:44] <CVirus> azraeI: free -m
[06:45] <azraeI> CVirus: it shows a certain amount of swap space, none in use atm.
[06:45] <CVirus> azraeI: it's working then
[06:46] <busfahrer> How do I get video thumbnails to work in Feisty? My previous trick of installing the mplayerthumbs addon doesnt seem to work anymore in Feisty.
[06:46] <azraeI> k thanks
[06:47] <wolferine> busfahrer, is it in the forums?
[06:47] <LeeJunFan> busfahrer: install libarts1-xine
[06:48] <busfahrer> LeeJunFan: That didnt work either (plus the way xine does thumbnails is kinda pointless)
[06:48] <stka> hi
[06:48] <LeeJunFan> busfahrer: do you also have libxine1-ffmpeg installed I wonder?
[06:49] <busfahrer> LeeJunFan: Yep
[06:49] <LeeJunFan> busfahrer: hrm, works here with xine just fine.
[06:49] <LeeJunFan> busfahrer: I wonder if you need the libakode2-mpeg and or libarts1-akode as well?
[06:50] <LeeJunFan> why that stuff isn't done by default is beyond me. I always seem to forget what packages I need to get it working every time I do a fresh install.
[06:50] <stka> has anyone managed to watch DVD unter kubuntu with 7.04? I allways get the errormessage "no demultiplexer for >dvd:///dev/scd0<"
[06:50] <TheCreationist> So, short of doing a clean install, is it possible/stable to revert from Feisty back to Edgy?
[06:51] <mc__> hello! i would like to run a 32bit game on my amd64 system. on gentoo i had the linux32 command which allowed mit to do this,how to this in kubuntu
[06:51] <fastesthamster> To stka: I can watch dvds in feisty
[06:51] <mc__> TheCreationist: downgrades are _not_ supported
[06:51] <fastesthamster> I use kaffeine
[06:51] <stka> fastesthamster: I also use kaffeine and all codecs are installed
[06:52] <fastesthamster> stka: that's weird then
[06:52] <stka> I also tried mplayer fastesthamster
[06:52] <LeeJunFan> TheCreationist: possible for somone who really knows the debian-like system well, but even still not worth the trouble.
[06:52] <fastesthamster> did you try gmplayer or mplayer from the command line
[06:52] <stka> I'm not alone with this problem
[06:53] <stka> fastesthamster: yes
[06:53] <mc__> hello! i would like to run a 32bit game on my amd64 system. on gentoo i had the linux32 command which allowed mit to do this,how to this in ubuntu
[06:53] <froggie> how do i unpack a .deb file? (that java is packed in .deb i think)
[06:53] <charwood> Hello everyone.  I'm trying to do dual head on feisty with the XPRESS 200M on my notebook.  I think I have my xorg.conf correct, but I get cloned view instead of MergedFB when I start up.  /var/lob/Xorg.0.log says (WW) fglrx(0) Option "MergedFB" is not used.
[06:53] <stka> fastesthamster: libdvdread is reading the DVD
[06:53] <charwood> Why is it not used?  (-8
[06:54] <fastesthamster> stka: Was feisty a fresh install or upgrade from edgy
[06:54] <stka> fresh install
[06:54] <fastesthamster> Oh, mine was an upgrade from edgy
[06:54] <stka> fastesthamster: that's the errormessage ioctl(): Input/output error
[06:54] <charwood> I'd be happy to pastebin my xorg.conf and my error log if anyone knows what might be wrong with MergedFB.
[06:55] <Aattila> hi! is there anything tells me what driver should be used? vesa video driver is applied and it works badly but don't know what to change
[06:55] <charwood> Until today I had only used Xinerama or Nvidia settings (ATI cards are such a pain.  Arg.)  Does anyone here use MergedFB for Dual screen?  Is there a better option with an ATI card?
[06:55] <froggie> is .deb a packed file? and if yes, how can i unpack it?
[06:55] <charwood> Aattila: What video card to you have?
[06:55] <Menda> hi
[06:56] <fastesthamster> stka: Sorry, I don't know.  I'll check my gf's install, she's got a fresh feisty
[06:56] <stka> fastesthamster: try it and maybe you will get the same messages
[06:57] <charwood> Shoot, gotta help a client.  Sorry.  I'll be back.
[06:57] <fastesthamster> I  hope not!
[06:57] <fastesthamster> I'm trying to convince her that switching from windows was a good idea
[06:58] <stka> fastesthamster: Now I tried it with "mplayer dvd://1" that worked
[06:59] <fastesthamster> That's awesome, wonder what the problem with kaffeine is then?
[06:59] <fastesthamster> gmplayer *still* doesn't work on my system, only command line mplayer works
[07:00] <stka> so the codecs are ok, there must be something with the new devicemanagement
[07:01] <fastesthamster> I had one or two issues with device management.  seems to be sorted out now.  It stopped autmounting SD cards, then decided to start again.
[07:02] <stka> under 7.04 with kernel 2.6.20 all IDE devices are managed as scsi device
[07:04] <fastesthamster> Exit
[07:04] <stka> fastesthamster: i just installed vlc then it's working O_O so there must be something with kaffeine
[07:04] <fastesthamster> That's weird
[07:04] <oem_> what do I do after configuring through the oem account?
[07:05] <fastesthamster> I've never used vlc
[07:05] <stka> fastesthamster: There is allways a little bit of voodoo while working with computers ;-)
[07:05] <fastesthamster> I guess that's what makes them fun :)
[07:06] <stka> fastesthamster: so I think I use vlc at the moment, thank you for your help
[07:07] <ubuntu> witam
[07:07] <flowingfire> Hello everybody.  Beryl isn't starting in the system tray like I want it to.  How do I get it to start up in the system tray in KDE?
[07:08] <flowingfire> In fact, I'm curious about how to get any program to begin at startup for that matter
[07:09] <busfahrer> Anybody in here using the Addon Mplayerthumbs?
[07:10] <sdlnxgk> ok crazy ? resized my desktop and now on the kicker desktop names are not showing full size what gives??
[07:10] <malik__> how do i enable video file thumbnails in fiesty?
[07:11] <flowingfire> Just in case anybody is around: I'm hoping somebody can help me put a program in the system try in Kubuntu so it begins on startup
[07:11] <Kikifas> puk
[07:11] <Aattila> is there anybody using via vn800 video card? i have problems with it
[07:12] <Kikifas> I do't have hard disk
[07:12] <Kikifas> :)
[07:12] <soulrider__> Kikifas: youre usingt he live CD ?
[07:13] <Kikifas> because when I put on my computer i"m broken one styck
[07:13] <Kikifas> yes
[07:13] <froggie> i have 2 problems, the bar at the bottom of the screen is not working good anymore (it doesn't show up after reboot, and after launching it with kicker it shows up but doesn't work :)
[07:14] <Kikifas> so doasen't work
[07:14] <soulrider> !pl | Kikifas
[07:14] <ubotu> Kikifas: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:14] <soulrider> maybe that can help you
[07:14] <Kikifas> thx
[07:14] <lupul> has anyone used k3b in edgy?
[07:14] <flowingfire> . . . anyone know how begin a program at startup?
[07:14] <soulrider> froggie: doesnt work as in you click ir and cant do anything or, doesnt work as in it doesnt show the applist, kmenu etc
[07:14] <lupul> i meant feisty
[07:14] <Xplosion> hello! i'm having problems with feisty upgrade. can anybody help?
[07:14] <charwood> Hooray.  I'm back.  Hope no one missed me too much.  Does anyone run dualhead with MergedFB and/or know anything about it and why it wouldn't want to start?
[07:15] <lupul> *ment
[07:15] <soulrider> lupul: not me, but im guessing it works :P
[07:15] <froggie> soulrider: doesn;'t launch apps anymore
[07:15] <lupul> well kind of bad
[07:15] <charwood> lupul: Used it in edgy plenty, what's going on?
[07:15] <soulrider> froggie: so your kmenu isnt working
[07:15] <lupul> in edgy me too. but in feisty i tried to burn 2 dvd's
[07:16] <lupul> and both are gone
[07:16] <soulrider> lupul: weird, any errors ?
[07:16] <froggie>  soulrider: yes
[07:16] <froggie>  not working
[07:16] <lupul> something about RMA
[07:16] <charwood> lupul: "are gone" = "failed to burn correctly"?  Also, same hardware I'm assuming?
[07:16] <Xplosion> i'm getting md5sum error with knetworkmanager when upgrading to feisty. what can i do?
[07:16] <froggie>  anymore
[07:16] <benkong2> hello fellow kubuntians :)
[07:16] <charwood> Howdy benkong
[07:17] <lupul> :))
[07:17] <froggie> hey benkong2
[07:17] <benkong2> anyone help with a knetworkmanager problem and iftab_helper?
[07:17] <grothesk> Xplosion: Download it again.
[07:17] <soulrider> hi benkong2
[07:17] <benkong2> hi soulrider; froggie
[07:17] <sdlnxgk> lupul, give me a second cant try k3b in feisty
[07:17] <froggie> i didn't know Kubuntu was a race now ;)) haha, Kubuntian ;))
[07:17] <froggie> lol
[07:17] <froggie> :)
[07:17] <soulrider> froggie: im not in kubuntu right now, but why dont you try reinstalling kicker ?
[07:17] <flowingfire> anyone know how I can add programs to start in the system tray in kubuntu?
[07:17] <Xplosion> doin it with adpet
[07:17] <benkong2> yes a super race; trying to take over the world
[07:17] <Xplosion> adept
[07:17] <malik__> i cant get video file's thumbnail preview in fiesty ....how do i enable it?.......plz help
[07:18] <Xplosion> same error all the times
[07:18] <lupul> haha
[07:18] <benkong2> flowingfire: right click on the panel and add an applet
[07:18] <grothesk> malik__: Install kdes noatun.
[07:18] <froggie> soulrider: hm like insert the cd and see what happens or something? ;) won't that erase my entire installment that i already have now though?
[07:18] <soulrider> flowingfire: right clickt he panela dn hit 'Add application to panel'
[07:18] <soulrider> what will make  ashortcut
[07:19] <soulrider> froggie: no no, just reinstall the kicker, thats the program that shows the panel :)
[07:19] <soulrider> froggie: open a terminal
[07:19] <benkong2> I thought feisty was going to have knetworkmanager with WPA support as default. Is that not true?
[07:19] <soulrider> benkong2: im not sure actually
[07:19] <soulrider> !wpa
[07:20] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:20] <froggie> soulrider: cool, opening a terminal. (i am a total new linux user). doing kubuntu linux for exactly 1 week. lol
[07:20] <soulrider> lol froggie thats ok, we were all newbies once werent we? ;)
[07:20] <charwood> malik: System Settings->Desktop->Behavior
[07:20] <froggie> soulrider: what should i do after opening a terminal ?
[07:20] <soulrider> ok, type this
[07:20] <soulrider> sudo aptitude purge kicker
[07:20] <soulrider> and then
[07:20] <soulrider> sudo aptitude install kicker
[07:21] <froggie> coolness
[07:21] <Xplosion> anybody? i'm tring to upgrade to feisty using adept. but i get md5sum error on knetworkmanager all the time. what can i do?
[07:21] <froggie> i will sure give that a try now ;) ty!
[07:21] <malik__> grothesk: it says no package by that name..........kdes noatun........but there is one just by the name of noatun.......but i have already VLC/Kmplayer/mplayer/xine/kaffeine players installed.......
[07:21] <soulrider> Xplosion: are you using just adept or the dist-upgrade application ?
[07:21] <grothesk> malik__: Than take noatun.
[07:22] <charwood> Xplosion: Total guess here, you might need to run apt-get clean to clear out a badly downloaded package before you try installing again.
[07:22] <Xplosion> just adpet
[07:22] <busfahrer> so, most of the people using KDE are satisfied with the way xine generated movie thumbnails?
[07:22] <Xplosion> adept
[07:22] <soulrider> charwood:  Xplosion
[07:22] <soulrider> dont do that yet!
[07:22] <tero> kubuntu just won my "The most bleeding edge distro ever" prize
[07:22] <benkong2> brb all trying to get my wpa_supplicant working
[07:22] <soulrider> Xplosion: dont delete the cahe yet
[07:22] <soulrider> Xplosion: open konqueror
[07:23] <Xplosion> done
[07:23] <tero> is it "normal" that bash makes core dump if I enter a command that doesn't exist?
[07:23] <soulrider> ok, type this int he bar
[07:23] <Xplosion> opened konqueror
[07:23] <charwood> soulrider: Sorry, now I feel like an evil saboteur derailing your technical support plans.
[07:23] <soulrider> type: /var/cache
[07:23] <sdlnxgk> anyone know how to make firefox and thunderbird defaults so when you click on links ??
[07:23] <soulrider> lol charwood what you said is correct, but it will delete all packages, we just wanna delete the knetwork one :P
[07:23] <Xplosion> done
[07:23] <soulrider> ok Xplosion, do you see an apt directory?
[07:23] <chuck> hi all
[07:24] <soulrider> hi chuck
[07:24] <Xplosion> thanks... i don't want to download 800MB for the third time! lol
[07:24] <Xplosion> yep... inside apt directory
[07:24] <chuck> just got puter back with linux on it
[07:24] <chuck> this is intresting
[07:24] <chuck> lol
[07:24] <soulrider> sdlnxgk: go to the control center and in KDE components go to Prefered applications
[07:25] <soulrider> Xplosion: do you see an archive directory? type the correct name
[07:25] <soulrider> im not in kubuntu right now so im guessing the dirs :P
[07:25] <tero> can anyone test what you get when you type "asdfgh" in console? please
[07:25] <Xplosion> yep.. inside archive
[07:25] <Xplosion> archives
[07:25] <soulrider> great Xplosion
[07:25] <tero> I get Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[07:25] <soulrider> open a konsole
[07:25] <Xplosion> inside it there is a lonly directory... callled "partial"
[07:26] <Xplosion> and inside it there is the bad bad package
[07:26] <soulrider> Xplosion: do you see lots of deb files?
[07:26] <sdlnxgk> soulrider, I don't see that all I see is system settings> default applications which I have did but still doesn't work..
[07:26] <chuck> does anyone know how  I can access my second hard drive ?
[07:26] <soulrider> sdlnxgk:  weird, hold on a sec please
[07:27] <Xplosion> i see a lot of deb. but the one with problems is inside the "partial" directory
[07:27] <soulrider> Xplosion: ok, in a console type this
[07:27] <sdlnxgk> soulrider, k
[07:27] <soulrider> Xplosion:  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/knetwork      and hit tab once, see if it auto completes
[07:28] <Xplosion> but the error package is insde another directory...
[07:28] <soulrider> oh
[07:28] <soulrider> it should be there
[07:28] <Xplosion> inside the "partial" directory
[07:28] <soulrider> what directory do you think it is in ?
[07:28] <soulrider> ok, delete the one in partial then
[07:28] <Xplosion> ok
[07:28] <soulrider> Xplosion:  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/knetwork      and hit tab once, see if it auto completes
[07:29] <sdlnxgk> soulrider, found it :)
[07:29] <soulrider> sdlnxgk: aweosme
[07:29] <oliver> Hello
[07:30] <sdlnxgk> the power of  google :)
[07:30] <pedro> hola
[07:30] <soulrider> hi oliver
[07:30] <soulrider> hola pedro
[07:30] <soulrider> !es | pedro
[07:30] <ubotu> pedro: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:30] <charwood> Howdy oliver, pedro.
[07:30] <pedro> que hay
[07:30] <pedro> soy nuevo
[07:30] <pedro> en linux
[07:30] <oliver> anyone got any experiance with wifi problems in Kubuntu 7.04
[07:30] <creadorcreativo> pedro: #kubuntu-es, este canal es para soporte en ingles
[07:30] <pedro> nesecito adiestramiento
[07:30] <soulrider> pedro: no hay problema, pero en este canal solo se permite hablar ingles, vas a tener que ir a los canales en espa~nol
[07:31] <pedro> como lo hago
[07:31] <soulrider> click en el nombre en azul
[07:31] <soulrider> tambine intenta #ubuntu-es
[07:31] <oliver> anyone got any experiance with wifi problems in Kubuntu 7.04
[07:31] <soulrider> oliver: asking once is enough
[07:31] <flowingfire> linux es un dolor de extremo, pero me gusta de todos modos
[07:31] <soulrider> !wifi | oliver
[07:31] <ubotu> oliver: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:31] <grothesk> oliver: Get more specific.
[07:32] <oliver> when I try to connect to a wireless network it seems to hold on Configuing device then the connection drops
[07:32] <soulrider> Xplosion: is it working now ?
[07:33] <Xplosion> almost there
[07:33] <pedro> gracias
[07:33] <Xplosion> no... same error
[07:33] <oliver> soulrider?
[07:34] <soulrider> Xplosion: in the archives directory, not the partial one, make sure the knetwork package isnt present
[07:34] <charwood> charwood
[07:35] <Xplosion> it isn't
[07:35] <soulrider> Xplosion: i got an idea
[07:35] <soulrider> hold on a sec
[07:35] <Xplosion> now i removed the hole "partial" directory and adept crashed... lol
[07:35] <Xplosion> ok
[07:35] <dragan> hello... how can I disable wifi config in Festy through boot parameters?
[07:36] <soulrider> Xplosion: oh my, you should have closed it
[07:36] <oliver> it holds at 28% Acrivation stage: Confguring Device.
[07:36] <dragan> I have integrated wifi on laptop.. and I guees it freezes in activation...
[07:36] <|lostbyte|> oh
[07:36] <dragan> since there are several networks around me
[07:36] <Xplosion> it's ok... i made a new "partial" and adept is working again
[07:37] <soulrider> Xplosion: hold on just a sec
[07:37] <dragan> and I cant get it to boot
[07:37] <soulrider> Xplosion: im asuming you know how to run konqueror as root :)
[07:38] <soulrider> Xplosion:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fk%2Fknetworkmanager%2Fknetworkmanager_0.1-0ubuntu11_i386.deb&md5sum=242d969715188f403fff68626497d6ba&arch=i386&type=main download it and place it in the archives and in the aprtial directorty
[07:38] <soulrider> lets see what happens, and close adept first!
[07:39] <sedat> hi there
[07:39] <oliver> dragan, I am having the same problems
[07:40] <dragan> oliver: it worked just fine at office... where AP is close and signal strong
[07:40] <froggie> hm, any help with installing java on my kubuntu computer? pls
[07:40] <dragan> but at home... it just wont boot
[07:40] <sedat> i recently installed wine to use flashget on it.Though I learned flashget is working with wine's previous package it is not working with last release
[07:40] <Xplosion> o.O
[07:40] <dragan> hangs at ~75%
[07:40] <Xplosion> every link i try gets me a page not found
[07:40] <oliver> mine hangs at ~28
[07:40] <sedat> how can  I install previous version
[07:40] <sedat> how can  I install previous version od wine
[07:41] <sdlnxgk> soulrider, you know why my desktop names on the kicker will not expand to the size of the name after chaning resoultion??
[07:41] <dragan> I just need boot param.. like noacpi...
[07:41] <dragan> but for standard i386 CD
[07:41] <oliver> mine sticks at Configuring Device
[07:41] <froggie> what does feisty, warty, etc mean btw? and how do i find out what i have? and is it important? :)
[07:41] <dragan> I have not downloaded yet DVD or Alternate CD
[07:42] <Xplosion> ok... found it manually
[07:42] <debianland> # Appears as ANNA
[07:42] <nixternal> froggie: they are the development names of Ubuntu releases. To find out which one you have, at the command line (Konsole) type =>    lsb_release -a
[07:42] <dragan> and... how can I SEE where it stopped???? I just see that blue bar... no info on what is going behid?
[07:42] <oliver> it's undernieth
[07:42] <oliver> are you on Kubuntu?
[07:43] <froggie> tyvm (thank you very much) nix :)
[07:43] <dragan> yes.. but now on edgy.. desktoip
[07:43] <pestilence> this is certainly the most interesting error i've had..."apt-get is not installed.  to install it, type apt-get install apt" :-D
[07:43] <dragan> pestilence: AHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAa good one !!!!
[07:43] <oliver> I agree
[07:43] <pestilence> something is messed up with the path, as apt-get exists in /usr/bin
[07:43] <aro> How can I remap mouse keys 4 and 5? (the buttons on the side of my mouse)
[07:43] <pestilence> this is after an edgy-> feisty upgrade.  known bug?
[07:44] <oliver> Dragan, when I am conencting to a network (fiesty) it tells me what it's doing in a little bubble and it freezes on Configuring Device
[07:45] <dragan> ahhh oliver .. you get KDE :-) ... I am not there.... cant get feisty to boot to kde
[07:45] <Toyd> gUys from me to the kubuntu community: http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kubuntucartoonwe5.jpg
[07:45] <dragan> at work I can... and it works.. and it finds AP and gets IP/gw...
[07:45] <oliver> mine was a fresh install my update went wrong
[07:45] <soulrider> Xplosion: go to http://packages.ubuntu.com and get the package from there
[07:45] <sedat> how can  I install not the latest but the previous version of a program
[07:45] <dragan> but at home... it cant boot.. since there is at least 5 networks around :-)
[07:45] <aro> How can I remap mouse keys 4 and 5? (the buttons on the side of my mouse)
[07:46] <oliver> mine cannot connect and there is only  network found
[07:46] <Toyd> froggie you are in in nixternal you too http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kubuntucartoonwe5.jpg
[07:46] <dragan> oliver: what card?
[07:46] <Toyd> pestilence,  you too
[07:46] <aro> !mouse
[07:46] <dragan> I have some ralink...
[07:46] <oliver> hang on
[07:46] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[07:46] <oliver> how do I check ym card?
[07:46] <pestilence> Toyd: huh?
[07:46] <dragan> iwconfig
[07:46] <Toyd> http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kubuntucartoonwe5.jpg
[07:47] <epdp14> anybody here?
[07:47] <charwood> epdp14: Lots of people.  Hello.
[07:47] <aro> Yes, there are 424 people in here
[07:47] <nixternal> Toyd: that is awesome
[07:47] <nixternal> hahaha
[07:47] <epdp14> lol i meant people here at their comps, thanks
[07:47] <dragan> way too much ;-)
[07:47] <soulrider> Toyd: how did you do that? o.O
[07:47] <Xplosion> soulrider: :D
[07:48] <oliver> RT2500 Wireless
[07:48] <Xplosion> soulrider: it working now!
[07:48] <soulrider> Xplosion: awesome!
[07:48] <dragan> oliver: well that is more less same thing I have
[07:48] <Xplosion> soulrider: thanks a lot!
[07:48] <Toyd> magic
[07:48] <pestilence> Toyd: is that supposed to be funny?
[07:48] <soulrider> no prob Xplosion
[07:48] <epdp14> i have a quick question... does anyone know where to save a script to make it executable in bash? ive forgotten since I last did it
[07:48] <Xplosion> half an hour to install everytinhg, ha
[07:48] <soulrider> pestilence: its lines from IRC
[07:48] <soulrider> probably dynamically added there somehow
[07:48] <oliver> any ideas?
[07:48] <pestilence> soulrider: i understood that much
[07:48] <dragan> go to Control Panel.. network... and set up device to get info from DHCP save and restart
[07:49] <Toyd> lol
[07:49] <dragan> and go manual on network manager
[07:49] <soulrider> i didn tfind it funny, i just thought it was cool
[07:49] <dragan> restart device.. not system of course :-)
[07:49] <soulrider> im going, bbl
[07:49] <charwood> soulrider: Later.
[07:50] <pestilence> soulrider: the thing is, i only said the last two things.  the other two boxes that have "me" in it aren't things i said
[07:50] <dragan> anyone knows how to block network setup on boot ?? what param to "stick" at the end of the boot line? like noacpi?
[07:50] <oliver> control panel?!
[07:50] <dragan> system settings
[07:51] <dragan> too many new linux users do not understand system settings.. so control panel is the term ;-)
[07:51] <gigabytes> hello
[07:51] <oliver> lol
[07:52] <epdp14> oes anyone know where to save a script to make it executable in bash? - id really appreciate your help
[07:52] <dragan> what can I say... :-)
[07:52] <gigabytes> Is there an automatic way to create the iso image of the installation cd of kubuntu, starting from the dvd iso?
[07:52] <dragan> epdp14: chmod +x /path/to/script
[07:52] <epdp14> dragan: thanks a bunch
[07:52] <dragan> epdp14: that will make it executrable
[07:53] <dragan> ...
[07:53] <nixternal> Toyd: http://blog.nixternal.com/ :) thanks!
[07:53] <dragan> anyone knows how to block network setup on boot ?? what param to "stick" at the end of the boot line? like noacpi?
[07:54] <Toyd> lol
[07:55] <pestilence> so does knetwork-manager still suck in feisty?  or am i gonna love it.
[07:56] <oliver> dragan, it's still freezing on configuring device and now it's giving out a 169 ip address
[07:57] <dragan> try it few times....
[07:57] <dragan> go offline... than online...
[07:57] <dragan> I got it 5th or 6th time...
[07:58] <dragan> I guess that is due to signal failure... and/or dhcp client issue
[07:58] <pestilence> i guess it still sucks :)
[07:59] <dragan> well it works... after few tries ;-)
[07:59] <dragan> still I need an answer
[07:59] <dragan> anyone knows how to block network setup on boot ?? what param to "stick" at the end of the boot line? like noacpi?
[08:00] <pestilence> dragan: you want to just do this temporarily?
[08:00] <dragan> yes
[08:00] <dragan> while booting live CD
[08:00] <pestilence> dragan: i don't think there is a kernel option that disables it
[08:00] <dragan> so.. there is no way for me to boot&install at home
[08:00] <dragan> darn
[08:01] <pestilence> dragan: there might be a way to blacklist a module.  if that were the case, you just blacklist the module for your network card
[08:01] <pestilence> dragan: why can't you boot with network?
[08:01] <_benjo_> can someone please help me get my wireless card working...It worked after the initial install, but now I can't get it up no matter what I try
[08:01] <dragan> to much wifi networks around
[08:01] <pestilence> dragan: i don't follow
[08:01] <dragan> _benjo_: what card?
[08:02] <oliver> still failing
[08:02] <dragan> pestilence: at work I got it up and running.... live cd.. but I was 20m far from AP
[08:02] <_benjo_> dragan, I have dwl-g520 from Dlink...
[08:02] <oliver> still fairing dragan
[08:02] <dragan> oliver: thatn you are too far away
[08:03] <ian__> hey guys
[08:03] <oliver> I am sat next to it lol
[08:03] <pestilence> dragan: what does that have to do with installing from cd?
[08:03] <dragan> than... I am lost
[08:03] <ian__> having a bit of trouble with an nvidia card on feisty :(
[08:03] <dragan> pestilence: cant get it to boot at home...
[08:03] <dragan> no way
[08:03] <oliver> it was working on the live cd
[08:03] <oliver> but not on the installed version
[08:03] <dragan> I got LIve CD to work AT work...
[08:03] <dragan> but at home... cant boot it
[08:04] <dragan> same CD same laptop
[08:04] <pestilence> dragan: i'll repeat:  what does this have to do with not starting network?  i'm confused.
[08:04] <dragan> it boots.. and starts loading.. up to !75%
[08:04] <dragan> and then hungs
[08:04] <pestilence> dragan: hrmm.
[08:04] <dragan> pestilence: wait
[08:05] <ian__> any idea why I have to run the nvidia driver installer EVERYTIME i start kubuntu
[08:05] <ian__> otherwise X wont start
[08:05] <dragan> pestilence: if you have network set to active on boot, and set up to dhcp... it will hung untill it gets what it needs .. right?
[08:05] <ian__> but when i install the drivers it works
[08:05] <ian__> then i reboot and it doesnt
[08:05] <gigabytes> ian__: don't use nvidia installer
[08:05] <gigabytes> install drivers using .deb packages
[08:05] <pestilence> dragan: no...it should time out.  but boot should continue anyways.
[08:06] <gigabytes> ian__: install them with adept from the restricted repository
[08:06] <dragan> pestilence: exactly... but if there is too much dhcp offers???
[08:06] <ian__> nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new gigabytes ?
[08:06] <pestilence> dragan: the timeout should happen in the background.  regardless, the timeout will happen, and dhclient will be backgrounded (it may take a couple of minutes)
[08:06] <ian__> I've got a GeForce GO 7300
[08:06] <pestilence> dragan: that's not the way it works ;)
[08:06] <gigabytes> ian__: hm... I have nvidia-glx but I don't know the difference
[08:06] <adz21c> don't do nvidia-glx-new its broken ... trust me lol
[08:06] <rinanir> do you know, how many types of distributions do ubuntu have? kubuntu,xubuntu,edubuntu ......
[08:06] <fdoving> dragan: you can try to hit ctrl-alt-del if it hangs for a long time. i belive that will kill the process hanging.
[08:06] <dragan> pestilence: I left it 15 minutes.. and it was just dead in the water
[08:06] <gigabytes> try to read packages descriptions
[08:06] <pestilence> dragan: with wireless, you pick an ESSID.  it offers you DHCP or it doesn't.  either way, it should still boot.
[08:07] <adz21c> nvidia-glx-new is missing a file
[08:07] <ian__> then i need to set the driver to "nvidia" in xorg.conf yeah?
[08:07] <dragan> ctrl+alt+del does not work
[08:07] <fdoving> dragan: ok. it does for me, in feisty.
[08:07] <gigabytes> ian__: it should be done automatically by the deb script if you haven't manually changed xorg.conf before
[08:08] <rinanir> do you know, how many types of distributions do ubuntu have? kubuntu,xubuntu,edubuntu ......
[08:09] <dragan> pestilence: whatever the reason is.. there are at least 5 availabel networks at my place... so what is going on.. I do not know,... but only difference between work and home is signal strength for wifi
[08:09] <gigabytes> rinanir: only those three
[08:09] <dragan> at work I can boot....at home I cant boot Live CD...
[08:09] <pestilence> dragan: when it hangs, can you hit ctrl+alt+f1?
[08:09] <dragan> I can hit... but without results
[08:09] <dragan> aaa sorry
[08:10] <dragan> I read ctrl alt del
[08:10] <rinanir> gigabytes, there are also fluxbuntu and some i dont remember
[08:10] <dragan> let me try...
[08:10] <rinanir> do anyone have the complete list
[08:10] <gigabytes> rinanir: I don't know of them
[08:11] <dragan> boot started
[08:11] <dragan> :-)
[08:12] <dragan> ctrl alt f1 works
[08:12] <pestilence> dragan: i.e. you get a command prompt?
[08:12] <pestilence> dragan: if so, you can kill whatever you think is causing the problem
[08:12] <dragan> says loading please wait
[08:12] <oliver> When I try and connect to a wireless network it hangs on Configuring Device
[08:12] <pestilence> dragan: ah. that's no good
[08:12] <oliver> my card is RT2500 Wireless
[08:12] <dragan> loading...
[08:13] <pestilence> dragan: i think one of the f1-7 keys gives you a text readout of what your system is doibng
[08:13] <pestilence> try ctrl+alt+f7
[08:13] <dragan> hald
[08:13] <dragan> plip
[08:13] <dragan> hplip
[08:13] <dragan> son of a gun
[08:13] <pestilence> dragan: so it's still doing stuff?
[08:13] <dragan> motherf**ker booted !!!!
[08:14] <pestilence> dragan: heh
[08:14] <dragan> :-D
[08:14] <ian__> do i need nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig along with nvidia-glx ?
[08:14] <Toyd> pestilence,  it was a joke sorry
[08:14] <fdoving> rinanir: there are different names for different things. there is ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, edubuntu, nubuntu, fluxbuntu, ubuntu lite, elbuntu. probably more.
[08:14] <Toyd> sorry
[08:14] <pestilence> Toyd: no problem, the humor missed me :-D
[08:14] <dragan> cmon wifi... HIT ME NOW ;-)
[08:15] <rinanir> fdoving; do you know the name for embedded distro?
[08:15] <ian__> do i need nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig along with nvidia-glx ? ???
[08:15] <dragan> brb .. got to switch devices...
[08:15] <dragan> 10x all
[08:16] <utnubuk> when i try to boot up the latest live CD I get an error saying something went wrong with the filesystem.  does that mean my computer is too old for feisty???
[08:16] <utnubuk> also, the same error occurs when i pop in an old edgy cd and try to upgrade
[08:16] <fdoving> rinanir: Embedded Ubuntu? not sure, i found a launchpad spec. not much.
[08:16] <msoeken> is there a ubuntu equivalent settings menu item for enabling glx/aiglx stuff?
[08:16] <pestilence> utnubuk: no.  it means that something is wrong with the filesystem ;)
[08:16] <msoeken> in feisty
[08:17] <oliver> When I try and connect to a wireless network it hangs on Configuring Device
[08:17] <oliver> my card is RT2500 Wireless
[08:17] <oliver> any ideas
[08:17] <utnubuk> i tried 2 diferent disks tho, they work on other computers just fine and not my lappy...
[08:17] <fdoving> oliver: rt2500s does not work with network-manager, you need to use the old way. wlassistant should work.
[08:18] <fdoving> oliver: so should kwlan.
[08:18] <oliver> fdocing: how do I get the "old" way?
[08:18] <pestilence> utnubuk: i'm guessing it's trying to mount the disk on your laptop and encountering problems when doibng so
[08:19] <huib> anybody experience to get a Pinacle PCT USB2 working under v4l2?
[08:19] <utnubuk> if that was the problem how would I resolve it? also - another symptom - the desktop runs deathly slow once it boots and the install icon isnt present on the desktop
[08:19] <pestilence> utnubuk: what kind of hardware?  how much ram?
[08:20] <pestilence> utnubuk: you would resolve it be repartitioning and reformatting your hard drive
[08:20] <utnubuk> 512 mb ram, 1.8 g processor
[08:20] <pestilence> utnubuk: which can be done inside the installer
[08:20] <pestilence> utnubuk: oh...that's plenty in terms of ram and processor.  it should run just fine
[08:21] <utnubuk> okay, i will do that, how do i initialize the installer if i dont have it's icon on the desktop?
[08:21] <oliver> what's the console command to get a program
[08:21] <oliver> apt-get?
[08:21] <pestilence> utnubuk: is this a cd that you burnt yourself, or an official cd?  perhaps the cd drive is having problems reading the cd?
[08:22] <ian__> mkay
[08:22] <ian__> i just installed nvidia-glx
[08:22] <utnubuk> pestilence: yes, i burnt it myself.  I tried two times on differant machines and neither one works on my laptop but they both work on other computers
[08:22] <ian__> for my GeForce Go 7300
[08:23] <pestilence> utnubuk: hmmm.
[08:23] <ian__> but xorg.conf is still using the nv driver
[08:23] <ian__> should i change it to nvidia and hope for the best?
[08:23] <utnubuk> is there a way to initialize thie install from konsole?
[08:23] <kalorin`> sure why not?
[08:23] <roter_kobold> hello
[08:24] <pestilence> utnubuk: i'm sure there is.  but i don't know what it would be :)
[08:24] <utnubuk> k thx for your help either way
[08:25] <ian__> ok that didnt work
[08:25] <ian__> gave me an error when starting X
[08:26] <ian__> said that the nvidia kernel was version 1.0-7184 and that the X module is 1.0-9631
[08:26] <ian__> any idea how to update the nvidia kernel to that of the X module?
[08:26] <adaptr> yes.. you'll have to manually remove any nvidia.com manual stuff
[08:27] <jthumb> I got a problem with my network ... somehow i can't ping/reach  my nextcompi.foo.local computers ... only "ping nextcompi" works ... but "ping nextcompi.foo.local" does not work for me
[08:27] <ian__> hm ok
[08:27] <adaptr> and install restricted modules to get the same version as glx
[08:27] <jthumb> computer network is set by dhcp
[08:27] <jthumb> does somebody know what to do?
[08:27] <ian__> how do i remove the nvidia.com garbage?
[08:28] <kalorin`> ian, yes I was just literally doing that a few minutes ago
[08:28] <kalorin`> on this very machine
[08:28] <kalorin`> updating the kernel module that is
[08:29] <ian__> and it worked after that?
[08:29] <kalorin`> sure
[08:29] <kalorin`> works great
[08:29] <kalorin`> got download the newest nvidia drivers
[08:29] <kalorin`> cause the ones you're working with are a revision old now
[08:29] <ian__> restricted modules are already installed
[08:29] <kalorin`> yeah you dont' need that with the new installeer
[08:29] <kalorin`> just grab that and tell me when you've got it
[08:30] <jovans> does anybody know a good performance guide for kubuntu 7.04?
[08:30] <kalorin`> also while that's pulling do an sudo apt-get install linux-headers-<kernel>
[08:30] <kalorin`> in my case that was 2.6.17-11-generic
[08:31] <ian__> already done
[08:31] <ubuntu> dragan here from laptop !
[08:31] <ubuntu> it works
[08:31] <ubuntu> yeessss
[08:31] <ian__> 2.6.20-15-generic for me
[08:31] <ian__> so just download the drivers straight from the nvidia site=
[08:31] <apus> alright! lets do this, I need some guidance on how to change out a driver for my sound card
[08:31] <kalorin`> yep
[08:31] <kalorin`> what's up apus?
[08:31] <froggie> hey, just wanted to say thanks, although linux is 'hard work' ;) i finally got java installed in dapper kubuntu, lols
[08:32] <kalorin`> as flaccid, I hear he's really good with sound cards :)
[08:32] <ian__> do i need to remove nvidia-glx first?
[08:32] <ubuntu> it still need some hands on tweaking... but it works... and that is most important
[08:32] <kalorin`> no just download stuff first
[08:32] <apus> because of my card I have to use alsa and a tool called envy24control this much I know, alsa-tools is installed (which includes envy24control)
[08:32] <kalorin`> get all the tools then do the work
[08:32] <ubuntu> bye all battery is about to die
[08:32] <apus> but when I try and run envy24control I get an error
[08:33] <ubuntu> oliver: if you choose to do manual on networkmanager... add your AP ssid in config and try again
[08:33] <apus> "invalid card type (driver is ICE1724)"  The envy control tool wants the ICE1712 driver
[08:33] <ubuntu> I am connected to ISP AP from more tan 500 meters... so it should work for you
[08:33] <ian__> hmm, it's saying the latest is NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run"
[08:33] <ubuntu> bye all
[08:33] <ian__> but my X module is 1.0-9631
[08:34] <apus> someone recommended using some rmod or something command (he was speaking in person so I dont know the letters) to remove the 1724 and install the 1712
[08:34] <kiko_> wenas
[08:34] <kalorin`> correct
[08:34] <kalorin`> we'll remove the old one
[08:35] <kalorin`> it'll build a new kernel and x module
[08:35] <kalorin`> you're going to just bash NVIDIAblah balh balh --kernel-source-path /usr/src/linux-2.whatever is in /usr/src for the headers
[08:35] <kalorin`> and it'll prompt you for everything else
[08:35] <kalorin`> then reboot
[08:35] <kalorin`> pretty much that easy
[08:35] <apus> nvidia?
[08:36] <ian__> ok downloaded
[08:36] <dario> hello
[08:36] <apus> can you give me an exact example, and I will make the necessary changes
[08:37] <dario> kubuntu feisty installer cant migration tool
[08:37] <kalorin`> ok
[08:37] <kalorin`> did yo uget the kernel headers installed yet?
[08:37] <ian__> now just: sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run --kernel-source-path /usr/src/linux-`uname -r` ??
[08:37] <kalorin`> not yet
[08:37] <kalorin`> well no not exactly
[08:37] <kalorin`> do an ls of /usr/src
[08:37] <nico_> helo
[08:37] <patrik> I got ubuntu v 7.04 on my pc and I want to have xp to
[08:38] <patrik> how to?
[08:38] <kalorin`> ian?
[08:38] <ian__> ah: linux-headers-`uname -r` then
[08:38] <tux> where can i find ATI drivers for feisty
[08:38] <kalorin`> that's all you hav eto do
[08:38] <apus> kalorin`: ok, I have a -generic and a normal one
[08:38] <kalorin`> yeah I have the generic one as well
[08:39] <kalorin`> there are symlinks in it to the normal one
[08:39] <kalorin`> if you notice
[08:39] <ian__> I've got: linux-headers-2.6.20-15, and linux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic
[08:39] <kalorin`> so you should use the -generic one I think
[08:39] <kalorin`> yeah try the generic one
[08:39] <kalorin`> cause some of the directories in it are symlinks
[08:39] <kalorin`> or
[08:39] <kalorin`> better
[08:39] <oliver> Thank you sooooo much people
[08:39] <kalorin`> apt-get remove linux-headers
[08:39] <kalorin`> answer yes
[08:39] <oliver> I am now wireless
[08:39] <kalorin`> then install the speicfic generic ones
[08:39] <ian__> ok
[08:39] <kalorin`> that'll get rid of that other directory
[08:39] <tux> wireless in ubuntu (kubuntu) rocks
[08:39] <kalorin`> or use a package manager
[08:39] <kalorin`> ok
[08:40] <kalorin`> I gotta split to a meeting
[08:40] <kalorin`> but I did that and it workd for me
[08:40] <kalorin`> took me a little while to figure out what it's complaint was
[08:40] <kalorin`> also it logs to /var/log/nvidia_installer or something such
[08:40] <ian__> should do that for the restricted modules to?
[08:40] <kalorin`> so you can look there if it doesn't work and it's pretty detailed
[08:40] <kalorin`> hrms..
[08:40] <kalorin`> no idea
[08:40] <ian__> remove the one without "-generic" on the end
[08:40] <froggie> hm, my panel menu (the bar at the bottom of the screen) is still not  working, any more tips?
[08:40] <tux> but does anyone know where i can find ATI drivers for kubuntu?
[08:40] <kalorin`> yeah can't hurt
[08:40] <malik__> how do i get thumbnail previews for video files?.........any help plzzzzzz?
[08:40] <tux> 1024x768 sucks
[08:41] <kalorin`> if you're running the generic kernel those headers aren't doing anything for you
[08:41] <kalorin`> tux: ati.amd.com?
[08:41] <kalorin`> !ati
[08:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:41] <froggie> hm, my panel menu (the bar at the bottom of the screen) is still not  working, any more tips? when clikcing on the programicons they wont start up
[08:41] <kalorin`> later guys
[08:41] <tux> well there where no feisty drivers last time i checked
[08:42] <tux> no support for the new x.org yet
[08:44] <apus> I've found something about an update to ice1712 to ice1724
[08:44] <malik__> how do i get thumbnail previews for video files?.........any help plzzzzzz?
[08:46] <malik__> should i install full kde ?
[08:46] <apus> what command will show me the control name for hardware
[08:46] <Tm_T> malik__: tumbnail previews in where?
[08:47] <malik__> Tm_T: in konqueror......i can see every other file except for video files in thumbnail shape
[08:48] <Tm_T> malik__: hmm, but they are played just fine?
[08:48] <tmbg> wow, that hp device manager is pretty sweet. I got my printer setup in literally about 15 seconds
[08:49] <malik__> Tm_T: they play just fine but i have alotta home videos of my son without title names.......n without thumbnails views i cant tell which one is which
[08:50] <Tm_T> malik__: I see, hmm, let me think... I wonder if some app provides that capability, like kmplayer
[08:50] <tmbg> the alignment on the page is way off though
[08:52] <malik__> Tm_T: i didnt had this problem in edgy..........two days ago installed fiesty n woooooooooooooof........i have Kmplayer/mplayer/VLC/realplayer/xine player/amarok.......installed already
[08:52] <apus> what is the command to see hardware list?
[08:52] <Tm_T> malik__: interesting
[08:53] <Black_Cat> hello. i've found some debian software packages, and i want to try them with kubuntu 6.06. what do you think will be most appropriate: packages for debian 4.0, 3.1 or 3.0 ?
[08:54] <malik__> and the option for video thumbnails isnt showin up anywhere in konqueror or system settings>Desktop>behaviour>file previews.
[08:54] <Tm_T> Black_Cat: which ever installs :-P
[08:54] <Tm_T> Black_Cat: dunno, but I expect 4.0 to be closest on
[08:54] <Tm_T> one
[08:54] <malik__> Tm_T: and the option for video thumbnails isnt showin up anywhere in konqueror or system settings>Desktop>behaviour>file previews.
[08:55] <Black_Cat> Tm_T, yeah, but i'll have to choose one to download :)) they're pretty heavy you know
[08:55] <Black_Cat> thanks :)
[08:55] <Tm_T> Black_Cat: tell me how it goes :)
[08:56] <Tm_T> malik__: hmh, let me check one thing...
[08:57] <apus> does anyone know the command to see the hardware list
[08:58] <Maneit> lspci shows some
[08:59] <lovloss> I cant seem to install feisty. It gets to the loading screen and then suddenly the monitor just goes out, light and all. Last thing i see if the text "kernel alive"
[09:00] <froggie> hm, my panel menu (the bar at the bottom of the screen) is still not  working, any more tips? when clikcing on the programicons they wont start up
[09:00] <Tired_> Networking...I've used Samba to make my Windows shares accessible from my Kubuntu box...what do I use to make my Kubuntu shares visible from the Windows box?
[09:00] <tsdgeos> Tired_: samba
[09:00] <adz21c> lovloss: try make a custom boot call and eppend vga=791
[09:00] <adz21c> append*
[09:00] <apus> maneit thanks thats the one
[09:00] <tux> i installed the fglrx drivers
[09:00] <Tired_> oh, it goes both ways?
[09:01] <tsdgeos> Tired_: yes
[09:01] <tux> but still only low resolution
[09:01] <lovloss> adz21c: Greek.
[09:01] <Tired_> sweet
[09:01] <Bobbob> Hi all! Where would I find a list with keyboard combinations for KCeMirror? (And shouldn't the mouse work as well?)
[09:01] <dennister> hey Tired_ :)
[09:02] <adz21c> lovloss: what you mean your greek?
[09:02] <lovloss> adz21c: No, i mean you just spoke way over my head ^_^
[09:02] <Lars_G> what's the file name of the update center that aptana launches?
[09:02] <adz21c> lovloss: oh haha, got ya
[09:02] <Lars_G> python /tmp/kde-root/adept_manager7QuvPa.tmp-extract/dist-upgrade.py --frontend DistUpgradeViewKDE  is not working for me
[09:02] <adz21c> lovloss: hold on i try make it step by step :-)
[09:03] <roguejedix> Does anyone know how to recover the MBR after a failed Ubuntu install?
[09:03] <lovloss> adz21c: Are you sure thats the probelm though? what would i be fixing
[09:03] <Tired_> Hi denni
[09:03] <adz21c> lovloss: well i had the exact same problem, and for some reason it seems to be something about resolution i think, thats what vga does anyway
[09:04] <lovloss> adz21c: So normal setup cd should work for my SATA drive?
[09:04] <Tired_> hmm...can the pressing of buttons one and two simultaneously on the mouse be mapped to something other than the middle button, like say button 4 (which my mouse doesn't have)?
[09:04] <Lars_G> please :(
[09:04] <adz21c> lovloss: should do, i am on SATA HDD if thats what you mean
[09:04] <lovloss> adz21c: Alright... in that case, what should i do?
[09:04] <pestilence> so how come the only option in knetworkmanager for me is "manual configuration"...it doesn't show any of my connections, or any available wireless networks (there are some)
[09:05] <adz21c> lovloss: hold on trying to remember how i did it :-P
[09:05] <lovloss> ok
[09:06] <Lars_G> help? please?
[09:07] <adz21c> lovloss: oh no wait, thats what you will probably need to do when you have finally installed feisty
[09:08] <lovloss> adz21c: See i cant even boot off the cd without the monior dropping
[09:08] <malik__> Tm_T: any luck or tips or me? :)
[09:09] <adz21c> lovloss: ok when you got the menu up with boot options (Start Kubuntu and install, memtester etc) press F4 and choose a resolution (eg i chose 1280x1024 16)
[09:09] <adz21c> lovloss: then continue on as normal
[09:09] <Tm_T> malik__: ach, forgot!
[09:09] <Tm_T> malik__: I'm poking to 10 directions at the same time, sorry :--P
[09:09] <lovloss> thanks ill try it
[09:09] <malik__> Tm_T: thats oki thanx for tryin anyway
[09:09] <adz21c> lovloss: just to warn youy
[09:10] <thefirstdude> is it a good time to dist upgrade yet?
[09:10] <adz21c> lovloss: you will get the same problem when booting into feisty when its installed, u can fix it tho
[09:10] <lovloss> adz21c: how would i do it?
[09:10] <lovloss> and why is there a problem, this ocmputer's really good :/
[09:11] <Tm_T> malik__: ok, looks like all is working fine here, hard to say what is your issue
[09:11] <adz21c> lovloss: u highlight the option you want to boot into, Press 'e'
[09:11] <adz21c> lovloss: then u select second option and press 'e' again
[09:11] <lovloss> ok..
[09:12] <adz21c> lovloss: then u put 'vga=485' (u can change it after if it looks weird)
[09:12] <adz21c> lovloss: press Return, then press 'b'
[09:12] <adz21c> lovloss: and all is well, have you got a Geforce 8800 series?
[09:12] <thefirstdude> does anyone know if now is a good time to upgrade?
[09:12] <lovloss> No, im using a Radeon
[09:13] <adz21c> lovloss: oh ok thats that theory out the window, i don't know it happened to me and was quite annoying, so i don't know why its doingit
[09:13] <paulthe> how is kubuntu 7.04
[09:13] <tmbg> where is a guide to all of the eyecandy stuff now available in feisty?
[09:13] <lovloss> adz21c: Well im going to go try... thanks
[09:14] <adz21c> lovloss: good luck
[09:18] <phyerboss> hey has anyone ever come across an issue with beryl whereas, when opening certain windows you get a black space?
[09:19] <phyerboss> another issue i am having is that alot of times, the "shadows" of say, a menu from the kicker applet will get stuck on the screen
[09:20] <phyerboss> other than that, it moves and rotates smoothly...just those little issues are buggin me
[09:21] <horde>  /exit
[09:21] <frojnd> is there any better sound controler than alsamixer. I lost my patient with setupin my headphones settings. Sound is all scrathed, vocals can't be heard...
[09:21] <apus> how do I use rmod or something to uninstall and reinstall a driver
[09:22] <tmske> I just installed kubuntu and want to connect to wpa wireless but KNetworkManager doesn't show wpa encryption as an option, any ideas?
[09:26] <lovloss> it didnt work...
[09:26] <lovloss> adz21c: Got me to the loading screen, same result after that
[09:26] <adz21c> lovloss: you changed the resolution?
[09:27] <lovloss> adz21c: Yep :/
[09:27] <adz21c> lovloss: obviously not exactly same problem as mine, did u try several resolutions?
[09:28] <lovloss> adz21c: yes, i did
[09:29] <mattik_> Hello. How can I get finnish keymap back after xgl/installing_
[09:30] <adz21c> lovloss: don't know then sorry, that fixed it for me
[09:30] <TheCreationist> How do I shut down X?
[09:30] <alexandre> tmske:  are you sure when it show you the options of your.. WLAN can't you select WPA?
[09:30] <alexandre> you must be installed wpa_supplicant .. but KNetworkmanager should be install itself..
[09:31] <alexandre> review it.. but.. it soudn't be the problem..
[09:32] <acetoxy> hm, it seems like neither ktorrent nor kopete can connect to the Internet. I dont know why.
[09:32] <Ra_> i can't open adept... i just install automatix
[09:33] <Arwen> DON'T INSTALL AUTOMATIX
[09:33] <TheCreationist> !automatix | Ra_
[09:33] <ubotu> Ra_: Automatix2 is a proprietary script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:34] <Ra_> so, what i must to do to uninstall automatix and make my adept working
[09:36] <Ra_> if i must install fresh ubuntu, it spent a long time. i have to set many behaviour for my pleasure
[09:36] <TheCreationist> Ra_: It's possible you can't without reinstalling now.
[09:36] <leleobhz> someone know how can i put the mac os x icon zoom effect}
[09:36] <leleobhz> ?
[09:37] <Ra_> hiks .......... i must reinstall my ubuntu ???
[09:38] <tmske> alexandre: it shows wep, but no wpa, on my laptop it's ok, could it be that it's something with wireless card?
[09:39] <apus> can anyone help me with my sound card
[09:39] <apus> it was working, not it doesn't
[09:39] <leleobhz> apus: what}
[09:39] <leleobhz> ?
[09:39] <tmske> apus: have you installed or changed things since then?
[09:39] <apus> tmske yes, I followed the advice of someone in this channel now it doesn't work
[09:40] <alexandre> tmske it should be.. but I can assure you...
[09:40] <leleobhz> apus: lspci | grep -i multimedia
[09:41] <morten_> Hi
[09:41] <apus> 04:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT]  PCI Multi-Channel Audio Controller (rev 01)
[09:41] <leleobhz> my god.... via...
[09:41] <leleobhz> ok
[09:41] <leleobhz> lsmod | grep via
[09:41] <leleobhz> if too long, paste it plz
[09:41] <apus> same thing
[09:41] <apus> just 1
[09:43] <tmske> alexandre: wpa_supplicant is installed, is there a way to test if my wireless card supports it
[09:43] <apus> leleobhz: someone had me try the envy24control but that only supports ICE1712 and hasn't been updated, this uses ICE1724
[09:43] <apus> leleobhz: I found some things about how to get the spdif to work without envy24 (which is why I asked in the first place) but I will need to get it working again
[09:44] <leleobhz> ook
[09:44] <leleobhz> apus: paste it for me plz
[09:45] <apus> paste what?
[09:45] <leleobhz> lsmod
[09:45] <leleobhz> what module are up}
[09:45] <leleobhz> ?
[09:46] <apus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17281/
[09:46] <charwood> Hello again.  I'm starting to get desperate.  I can't find anyone who has the same problem on google.  I cannot get MergedFB to work under Feisty (or anything else for that matter).
[09:46] <charwood> If anyone has an ATI card and is using MergedFB, I would be very pleased to hear how you did it.
[09:48] <leleobhz> apus: lets see
[09:48] <Roey> hi, why does XChat have problems looking up IRC server when it's connecting, while at the same time I can ping them fine from an xterm? It happens with more than one IRC server (EFNet, OFTC and Freenode, here)
[09:50] <leleobhz> apus: intel controller}
[09:50] <tmbg> where is a guide to all of the eyecandy stuff now available in feisty?
[09:50] <leleobhz> ?
[09:50] <apus> leleobhz: onboard audio, I dont use it
[09:50] <balint> hi, can i install kubuntu 6.10 edgy on ms virtual server 2005?
[09:51] <leleobhz> apus: because have notting here about via
[09:51] <leleobhz> apus: cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist*
[09:51] <apus> leleobhz: all that ice1724 stuff is the envy24 chip
[09:51] <leleobhz> paste it
[09:51] <leleobhz> hmmm
[09:51] <leleobhz> paste this cat and the dmesg plz
[09:51] <leleobhz> lets see
[09:52] <frojnd> how can I disconnect line in in the alsamixer? wil decreasing sound to 0, and mute help?
[09:52] <apus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17282/
[09:52] <leleobhz> (well, noone know how to enable macos icon zoom effect?)
[09:53] <apus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17283/
[09:53] <leleobhz> [   13.347592]  ice1724: Invalid EEPROM version 1
[09:53] <leleobhz> hmm
[09:53] <leleobhz> interesting....
[09:53] <apus> leleobhz: ive read about that in forums
[09:53] <leleobhz> i think i know what is
[09:53] <leleobhz> plz paste the lspci again
[09:54] <aaroncampbell> I've been having problems with digiKam ( http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144574 ) and it seems that it's because the version of digiKam that feisty has needs a newer version of libexiv2 and libkexiv2.  How do you report something like that?
[09:54] <leleobhz> (what wories me is: [   13.210257]  hda_codec: Unknown model for ALC883, trying auto-probe from BIOS...)
[09:54] <apus> 04:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT]  PCI Multi-Channel Audio Controller (rev 01)
[09:54] <apus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17284/
[09:55] <leleobhz> apus: wait 3 minutes
[09:56] <netwit> hi everybody!
[09:56] <netwit> I have a Dell laptop and replacing the default MBR screws up the Dell Restore Facility, so I want to preserve the current MBR, install the boot loader on the Ubuntu boot partition and boot linux using the Windows XP NTLDR/boot.ini. During the installation process, I didn't see any option for choosing where to install the bootloader..
[09:56] <leleobhz> hm
[09:56] <leleobhz> netwit: well
[09:56] <leleobhz> you want to boot linux fron ntldr
[09:56] <leleobhz> first
[09:56] <leleobhz> install boot manager into YOU LINUX PARTITION
[09:57] <leleobhz> (install with alternate media plz)
[09:57] <netwit> yup
[09:57] <netwit> but where's the option to do that..
[09:57] <leleobhz> netwit: alternate install ;)
[09:57] <netwit> I could find anything in the installation process..
[09:57] <netwit> how to do a alternate install ??
[09:58] <piway> y'a-t-il des franais ici?
[09:58] <Doctor_Nick> !fr
[09:58] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:58] <piway> !fr
[09:58] <leleobhz> netwit: download kubuntu-alternate iso image
[09:59] <gdiebel> !dapper
[09:59] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[09:59] <leleobhz> well
[09:59] <leleobhz> netwit:this doc can help you
[09:59] <leleobhz> netwit: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Boot_from_Windows_Bootloader_(NTLDR)_and_why
[09:59] <Doctor_Nick> !breezy
[09:59] <ubotu> breezy is the third release of Ubuntu. Version 5.10, codename "Breezy Badger".  Upgrading to !dapper : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[09:59] <jhutchins> leleobhz: Since you already have it installed, just use the instructons on restoring grub to install it to the new location.
[09:59] <Doctor_Nick> !curdgemuffin
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about curdgemuffin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <leleobhz> jhutchins: nope
[09:59] <leleobhz> jhutchins: he wants to bootup linux from ntldr
[09:59] <Doctor_Nick> !feisty
[09:59] <ubotu> Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[09:59] <leleobhz> is another procedure
[09:59] <netwit> leleobhz: thanks man!
[10:00] <leleobhz> Doctor_Nick: can you ask in pvt to the bot?
[10:00] <jhutchins> leleobhz: Yeah, he doesn't need to reinstall.
[10:00] <leleobhz> err
[10:00] <Doctor_Nick> probably
[10:00] <leleobhz> more or less
[10:00] <Doctor_Nick> but whats the fun in that?
[10:00] <leleobhz> restore the ntldr is a shit
[10:00] <Roey> hi, why does XChat have problems looking up IRC server when it's connecting, while at the same time I can ping them fine from an xterm? It happens with more than one IRC server (EFNet, OFTC and Freenode, here)
[10:00] <acemo> <- is happy with his new "powered by kubuntu" laptop sticker <3
[10:00] <leleobhz> acemo: use /me
[10:00] <leleobhz> /me is happy....
[10:01] <main2> i have two network interfaces, eth0 and eth1 -> both are active after booting (eth1 is WLAN btw)
[10:01] <main2> but if i dont turn off eth0, then i cant use my network / inet
[10:01] <leleobhz> acemo: hehe
[10:01] <starhawk> hi
[10:01] <main2> so my question is, what specifies which ethernet adapter is used?
[10:01] <jhutchins> main2: I take it eth0 isn't connected?
[10:01] <acemo> leleobhz: tnx :)
[10:01] <main2> jhutchins, thats correct
[10:01] <leleobhz> ;]
[10:01] <main2> (but it has a static ip bound to it, in /etc/network/interfaces)
[10:01] <jhutchins> main2: I believe the config is in /etc/sysconfig/network.
[10:01] <leleobhz> well, back to apus problem
[10:02] <jhutchins> Oh, yeah.
[10:02] <jhutchins> main2: Basically, what you need to do is either specify the default route/gateway as eth1.
[10:02] <starhawk>  I would like to know how to use amule I installed it but nothing is happening
[10:02] <jhutchins> main2: You can also create an alias in the modules config files that "turns off" the card.
[10:02] <main2> jhutchins, ok - i think that i need to get my routing sorted then...
[10:03] <blahhh45> Does anyone know what the differences is in kubuntu alternative and desktop 7.04? Im about to download it.
[10:03] <main2> i added a gateway for the ethernet adapter in /etc/network/interfaces tough :/
[10:03] <jhutchins> main2: You can add the name of the driver to  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist in order to disable the interface.
[10:04] <main2> jhutchins, mwa.. but i connect to LAN sometimes as well........
[10:04] <jhutchins> main2: So comment it out.
[10:04] <blahhh45> Anyone?
[10:05] <leleobhz> apus: try to load these modules
[10:05] <leleobhz> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=AudioTrak&card=Prodigy+7.1.&chip=Envy24HT&module=ice1724
[10:05] <jhutchins> main2: I'm not as familiar with ubuntu's network configuration, part of the problem is that it auto-detects hardware at each boot.
[10:05] <main2> blahhh45, only use alternative if you have problems with the normal - desktop version
[10:05] <acemo> blahhh45: the desktop cd u can try out the os before installing
[10:05] <jhutchins> main2: In the old style config, you used to be able to configure atboot=NO in the ifcfg-eth0 file.
[10:05] <starhawk>  I would like to know how to use amule I installed it but nothing is happening
[10:05] <jhutchins> main2: I don't know where you'd put that for ubuntu.
[10:05] <blahhh45> Okay thanks
[10:06] <main2> jhutchins, im following you yes :)
[10:06] <blahhh45> I'm not going to have internet where I'm installing it to, is there a site where I can get all the updates for it now and config. them later?
[10:06] <apus> i have to go to class, thanks for the link leleobhz
[10:07] <main2> jhutchins, im gonna check my routing first i think :)
[10:07] <jhutchins> main2: I'm looking for where you could do that in ubuntu...
[10:07] <apus> leleobhz: actually im not going
[10:08] <stepnjump> Hi everyone. Im new to Kubuntu and I love it but I would like to install firefox. I already downloaded it. How do I install it? It's a .tar.gz?  Thanks in advance....
[10:08] <Ashex> stepnjump, sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:08] <fdoving> !software | stepnjump
[10:08] <ubotu> stepnjump: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[10:08] <Ashex> or open up adept manager
[10:08] <Ashex> Oooo
[10:09] <Ashex> I didn't know about that trigger
[10:09] <stepnjump> Awesom. Thanks a lot ubotu
[10:09] <apus> leleobhz: where do I get the alsa package it wants me to install?
[10:10] <blahhh45> So, I take it theres not a site to download all the updates now and install them later then?
[10:11] <mwolff> hey guys, after upgrading to Feisty my system doesn't boot anymore (doesn't find hard drives) ... I've read in the forums that kernel 2.6.20-13 is supposed to work better in these cases... is there an easy way to install the older kernel version using apt-get??
[10:11] <mwolff> (in case you're wondering, I'm now using Feisty with Edgy's old 2.6.17 kernel)
[10:12] <jhutchins> main2: Word from those who know: Simply edit /etc/network/interfaces and comment out the lines for eth0.
[10:12] <apus> leleobhz: it worked on install, is there a way to recompile the kernel?
[10:13] <_Neil> im behind a forced proxy.. how can i make synaptic/package managers work, it doesnt connect? I've specified the http proxy in options...
[10:13] <main2> jhutchins, ok good idea :)
[10:13] <leleobhz> apus: did you recompiled the kernel}
[10:13] <leleobhz> ?
[10:13] <apus> leleobhz: no
[10:13] <main2> jhutchins, *** i just entered 'reboot' :D
[10:13] <leleobhz> apus: recompiled something?
[10:13] <apus> leleobhz: no
[10:14] <jhutchins> main2: Fingers crossed...