[00:02] <Lure> ScottK: any time to sponsor strigi build1 upload for exiv2 library transition: http://muse.19inch.net/~lure/strigi.diff ?
[00:05] <Riddell> Lure: I can do that
[00:05] <Lure> Riddell: fine with me ;-)
[00:06] <Lure> I just saw ScottK nick...
[00:07] <Riddell> done
[00:09] <Lure> Riddell: thanks
[00:12] <claydoh> ScottK: sorry my laptop somehow overheated :(
[00:12] <claydoh> ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/352038/
[00:12] <claydoh> how does that look? assuming bbcode and not html
[00:15] <Riddell> "  libexiv2-dev: Depends: libexiv2-6 (= 0.19-1) but it is not installable
[00:15] <Riddell> "
[00:15] <Riddell> huh?
[00:16] <Riddell> Lure: something broken with libexiv?
[00:17] <Lure> Riddell: universe packages built w/o problems
[00:17] <Lure> Riddell: which arch?
[00:17] <Riddell> i386
[00:17] <Riddell> and amd64
[00:19] <Lure> Riddell: I have it installed on my lucid/i386...
[00:19] <Lure> Riddell: and several universe packages build with it in past couple of hours
[00:20] <Lure> Riddell: ups, binary package was not promoted to main
[00:20] <Lure> Riddell: can you do that?
[00:20] <Lure> libexiv2-6
[00:21]  * Lure thought that this is done automatically for main packages
[00:21] <Riddell> hmm, I'm sure I did
[00:21] <Riddell> queue override -c main binary libexiv2-6
[00:21] <Riddell> that's in the history
[00:21] <Riddell> it's done manually
[00:22] <Riddell> Lure: done (again)
[00:22] <Riddell> we'll need to rebuild after the next publisher run
[00:23] <Lure> Riddell: ok, I can retry build in the morning, need to go to bed now
[00:23] <Riddell> me too
[00:52] <freeflying> Riddell: sorry, no
[00:56] <ScottK> claydoh: Published.  FWIW, for kubuntu.org stuff it's actual html that's needed, not wiki format.
[00:56] <ScottK> Thanks.
[00:57] <claydoh> ScottK: thought it might be bbcode in a drupal editor, I will remember that one
[00:57] <ScottK> Easy enough to change.  No problem.
[00:58] <claydoh> now to see why my laptop is getting hot :(
[02:47] <ScottK> nixternal: Can haz powerpc?
[04:10] <ScottK> nixternal: Nevermind
[04:12] <ScottK> amarok built on powerpc ....
[04:16] <shtylman> ScottK: has turned into a lolcat...hmmm
[04:16]  * ScottK is full of suprised.
[04:17] <ScottK> d/s
[04:31] <maco> ScottK: http://cuteoverload.com/2010/01/02/10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1/
[04:31] <ScottK> Noting the domain name, do I want to look?
[04:36] <ScottK> So I looked.
[04:36] <maco> particularly the long string of "kittehs can sleep anywhere" that is #1
[04:36] <ScottK> Just so I don't lose my reputation as the buzzkill, I'm mention that cats do http://cuteoverload.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/downloadedfile-7.jpeg because the tire is nice and warm.  When the car moved, it's bad.
[04:36]  * ScottK lost a cat to that exact thing growing up.
[04:37] <maco> O_O
[05:10] <shtylman> prettified unlock screen: http://apt.shtylman.com/stuff/unlock.png
[05:23] <maco> shtylman: next question: will it accept correct passwords or will i need to go to a tty and killall kscreenlocker still?
[05:25] <shtylman> maco: huh?
[05:26] <shtylman> um... mine works...
[05:26] <shtylman> im a bit confused at the question?
[05:26] <maco> oh it only accepts correct passwords for me sometimes
[05:26] <maco> and once it rejects the correct password once, it will do so until i've rebooted
[05:26] <maco> then it might (or might not) work after the reboot
[05:27] <maco> i even have an alias unlock="killall kscreenlocker"
[05:27] <shtylman> interesting...
[05:27] <shtylman> don't answer..but ponder to yourself... doesn't your password have any weird characters in it?
[05:27] <maco> been this way for months. seen people complain about it in #kubuntu too
[05:27] <maco> only one, and its not very odd
[05:28] <maco> i mean, its ascii, not utf-8 wackiness
[05:28] <shtylman> hmm
[05:28] <maco> i do not need the compose key to type my password, so thats not it :P
[05:28] <shtylman> is there an open bug on it?
[05:28] <maco> i have no idea
[05:28] <maco> i thought it was a known one, its been around so long
[05:29] <shtylman> the trick with bugs like that is they either have to be easily reproducable... or effect a developer enough for them to investigate it
[05:29] <shtylman> I often find that some bugs are valid...if...you know... one could ever reproduce it :)
[05:29] <kb9vqf> custom PAM stack?
[05:30]  * kb9vqf gets that too with Kerberos logins
[05:30] <maco> i do have a krb-auth'd process running since i use openafs, but my login is a local one. this is my laptop i'm talking about
[05:31] <kb9vqf> so you've changed /etc/pam.d/common-auth then?
[05:31]  * ScottK has never seen anything like that
[05:31] <maco> kb9vqf: no
[05:31] <kb9vqf> then I'm out of ideas already :)
[05:32] <maco> kb9vqf: i type "kadmin" and other such nonsense commands that i can never remember on my own
[05:33]  * kb9vqf knows that kdesktop_lock is very picky about what it receives from PAM
[05:33] <maco> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/434276
[05:33] <maco> oooh there's a workaround in there
[05:34] <maco> i will have to check my /etc/shadow's group when i can turn my laptop on again
[05:35] <maco> if thats the issue, then i wonder why it does sometimes work
[06:46] <shtylman> http://apt.shtylman.com/stuff/login.mpeg
[06:46] <shtylman> the whole process from start to finish :)
[07:49] <Lure> Riddell: ^^^
[08:37] <amichair> shtylman: out of curiosity, what do u use to make the video-snapshot?
[08:37] <amichair> shtylman: btw, nice kubuntu icon :-)
[09:36] <skamster> hello all
[09:37] <skamster> as i read on the pykde-section on kde.org, here are some pykde-dev's?
[09:37] <skamster> i've a problem for 2 days..
[09:38] <skamster> this is my code
[09:38] <skamster> http://pastebin.com/m2978ab0b
[09:39] <skamster> i went to fetch akonadi-items, but my list is always empty..
[09:39] <skamster> akonadi-output looks good: (6614) Akonadi::SessionPrivate::jobDone: Akonadi::ItemFetchJob(0xe37490) Non-current job finished.
[09:39] <skamster> had someone anything done in this part yet?
[09:40] <skamster> could someone gave me a easy example?
[09:43] <skamster> no pykdedevs here?
[09:53] <agateau> Sput: ping
[09:54] <Sput> agateau: will be available in half an hour or so
[09:54]  * Sput is about to reach the train station
[09:54] <agateau> Sput: patch for you available here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quassel/+bug/502409
[09:56] <agateau> Sput: just ping me back later when you have time then
[09:57] <Sput> agateau: looks fine, will apply later, thx
[10:01] <Sput> agateau: wondering if the path needs to be quoted in CMake thoug
[10:01] <Sput> h
[10:01] <Sput> just in case it contains spaces
[10:02] <Sput> I think we pass a path via -D somewhere else; should have a look at how we did it there
[10:06] <agateau> Sput: will have a look, but I think you should consider using a generated header file
[10:06] <agateau> it's much safer this way
[10:07] <agateau> Sput: (cf cmake configure_file command)
[10:24] <tseliot> Riddell: do you think my fix for bug #503736 is ok? (see the bzr branch linked to the bug report)
[10:27] <tseliot> it's a one line change that makes jockey-kde (and other packages, I guess) build again
[10:27] <tseliot> it might be worth reporting the problem upstream
[10:31] <tseliot> or agateau ^^
[10:31]  * agateau reads
[10:37] <Riddell> tseliot: I don't see a bzr branch linked from there?
[10:37] <Riddell> kdebindings hasn't yet been updated for KDE 4.4, that's on my todo list but it's possible this fix is in there already
[10:37] <tseliot> Riddell: weird, it's under related branches: https://code.launchpad.net/~albertomilone/ubuntu/lucid/kdebindings/kdebindings-fix-pykdeuic4
[10:38] <tseliot> the problem is that this is blocking jockey
[10:39] <Lure> Riddell: can you give-back https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/strigi/0.7.0-1build1/
[10:40] <Riddell> tseliot: looks fine to upload although the changelog is for an old version and it's better to have it as a patch than edit the code directly
[10:43] <tseliot> Riddell: the changelog is from the lucid bazaar branch. Or are you referring to the fact that the library hasn't been updated yet?
[10:44] <tseliot> I can add my change as a patch, this is definitely not a problem for me
[10:45] <Riddell> "kdebindings (4:4.2.95-0ubuntu3)" that's not the version in lucid
[10:45] <Riddell> that bzr branch must be behind
[10:45] <Riddell> tseliot: use ~kubuntu-members/kdebindings/ubuntu if you could
[10:47] <tseliot> Riddell: I'm using bzr only to try the instructions on the DistributedDevelopment wiki page. I can make the changes to that branch of yours and then upload manually if you prefer so
[10:48] <tseliot> as the wiki assumes that lp:ubuntu/kdebindings is up-to-date
[10:49] <Riddell> I think that's an assumption too far :)
[10:49] <tseliot> heh, ok
[10:49] <Riddell> tseliot: go with ~kubuntu-members/kdebindings/ubuntu if you want to upload, I can merge it in if you make a branch
[10:50] <tseliot> alright
[10:56] <tseliot> Riddell: how come the latest version is 4:4.3.3-0ubuntu1~ppa2 ? I guess I can safely bump it to 4:4.3.3-0ubuntu2, right?
[10:58] <tseliot> of course I expect an answer only to the latter ;)
[11:02] <Riddell> tseliot: the version in lucid is 4:4.3.2-0ubuntu4.1
[11:03] <tseliot> Riddell: the one in lp:~kubuntu-members/kdebindings/ubuntu is what I mentioned above
[11:03] <tseliot> it looks like an upload was reverted
[11:03] <Riddell> oh hmm, what a mess
[11:04] <Riddell> tseliot: just get rid of that changelog entry and add one for 4:4.3.2-0ubuntu5
[11:05] <tseliot> Riddell: ok
[12:06] <tseliot> Riddell: ok, I pushed to this branch. Let me know if I can upload: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~albertomilone/ubuntu/lucid/kdebindings/kdebindings-fix-kde-i18n-string
[12:07] <Riddell> tseliot: looks good, please upload
[12:07] <Riddell> tseliot: I'll merge into ~kubuntu-members
[12:07] <tseliot> Riddell: ok, thanks
[12:08] <Riddell> tseliot: KDE SC 4.4 RC is due out today so I'll make sure and get kdebindings packaged from that and check if this change is in it or no
[12:09] <Riddell> humph, bzr doesn't want to merge "different rich-root support"
[12:12] <tseliot> Riddell: d'oh
[12:13] <Riddell> I did it manually
[12:13] <tseliot> fortunately the change was trivial
[12:14] <tseliot> Riddell: ok, uploaded (my 1st upload as a core-dev)
[12:14] <tseliot> and yes, I hope the RC has that fix already
[12:16] <Riddell> tseliot: congratulations on your first upload!
[12:16] <tseliot> thanks :-)
[12:19] <Riddell> revu needed http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libdbusmenu-qt
[12:19] <Riddell> Quintasan: are you into revuing yet? ^^
[12:30] <Riddell> shtylman: nice bling on the login there
[12:30] <Riddell> shown it to pinheiro?
[13:09] <Riddell> hmm, quassel doesn't get merged with Debian?
[13:12] <Riddell> neversfelde: I take it we don't want choqok 1.0 alpha 2 in the archive?
[13:37] <freeflying> Riddell: no section in Source?
[13:39] <Riddell> freeflying: it has "Section: libs"
[13:40] <freeflying> Riddell: my fault :)
[13:40] <Riddell> although I do think Sections should be done away with
[13:58] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: for libdbusmenu-qt, is there any reason pkg-kde-tools is a build-depend? I don't see that it's being used
[14:06] <tseliot> Riddell: more fun :-/ http://launchpadlibrarian.net/37495769/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.kdebindings_4:4.3.2-0ubuntu5_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[14:06] <Riddell> nerk
[14:08] <Riddell> tseliot: let me try that in a chroot
[14:09] <tseliot> Riddell: ok. It worked in pbuilder this morning...
[14:09] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: you're right, I'll remove that
[14:09] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: cool. Otherwise it looks good to me
[14:15] <Riddell> gosh kb9vqf is busy on revu
[14:18] <JontheEchidna> I'm thinking that we should split soprano-backend-virtuoso out into a separate package and have soprano-daemon depend on soprano-backend, which our two current backend packages would provide
[14:18] <JontheEchidna> Guess I just volunteered to do -runtime this time around :P
[14:19] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: does soprano-backend-sesame still work?
[14:19] <JontheEchidna> I couldn't really get it to work, actually
[14:19] <JontheEchidna> I'd be fine with trashing it, come to think of it
[14:19] <Riddell> I've removed the patch from -runtime for the restricted installer popup
[14:20] <JontheEchidna> so maybe it'd be pointless to make a backend-package system in that case
[14:21] <Riddell> I think I'd be for just scrapping sesame and having soprano depend on virtuoso
[14:21] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[14:22] <JontheEchidna> btw, our CDs are oversized as it is, virtuoso will add ~3MB more to that
[14:22] <txwikinger> Riddell: sent some snow over here... you have more than we have ;)
[14:24] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: depressing isn't it.  I think .5MB can be dropped from virtuoso-drivers by removing the ones it doesn't need
[14:25] <Riddell> txwikinger: send some salt over here, we're running out
[14:25] <txwikinger> ROFL
[14:25] <txwikinger> Well.. we only use salt until -10C ... if it is lower we use sand
[14:26] <JontheEchidna> Debian has a "virutoso-minimal" package that has the intention of being only what soprano needs. I don't know if it has everything though since we never got 6.0.x working
[14:35] <ScottK> ryanakca: http://bangarangkde.wordpress.com/2010/01/05/bangarang-1-0-release-candidate/
[14:42] <Riddell> tseliot: I uploaded kdebindings with boost1.40
[14:42] <tseliot> Riddell: perfect, thanks
[15:13] <shtylman> Riddell: havn't shown him the video yet
[15:13] <shtylman> but did send him the screencap of the kdm theme
[15:14] <Riddell> that wallpaper still hurts my eyes
[15:14] <neversfelde> Riddell: not sure, afaik debian has the alpha version only. I can talk to upstream and see what they would prefer?
[15:14] <shtylman> Riddell: yea... we will need to desaturate
[15:15] <Riddell> neversfelde: that would be good
[15:15] <Riddell> shtylman: I'm unconvinced even that will help but we'll see what pinheiro comes up with
[15:16] <neversfelde> Riddell: will take some time, because mtux has to absolve his military service
[15:16] <shtylman> Riddell: we shall see
[15:16] <shtylman> the themes can easily be changed if needed
[15:16] <shtylman> so thats good
[15:16] <Riddell> neversfelde: hmm, nasty
[15:42] <ScottK> NCommander: Our python-qt3 is currently uninstallable due to SIP.  That could stand a look too....
[15:42] <NCommander> ScottK, ugh, why's it uninstallable?
[15:42] <ScottK> (Since you're running and hiding from #debian-qt-kde)
[15:42] <ScottK> SIP version is too high
[15:45] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: mind if I copy your endorsement on my kubuntu-dev app to my core-dev app?
[15:45] <ScottK> I think you'd want him to enhance it some.
[15:45] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Did I write you one already?
[15:45] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: yeah
[15:46] <ScottK> OK.  Good.
[15:47] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: sure
[15:47] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: if you could enhance it a bit, that'd be nice too. :)
[15:47] <Riddell> ok
[15:47] <JontheEchidna> thanks
[15:48] <JontheEchidna> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/JonathanThomas/CoreDevApplication
[15:48] <Riddell> tseliot: ug kdebindings fails in nasty ways, this may have to wait until the RC gets tagged so we can do a proper update
[15:48] <tseliot> Riddell: ok, probably it's better this way. At least we tried ;)
[16:22] <agateau> Which version of kde will be in alpha2?
[16:22]  * agateau needs to rebase patches, better rebase against the right version...
[16:23] <agateau> ScottK: ^ any idea?
[16:23] <ScottK> agateau: 4.4 rc1.
[16:23] <agateau> ScottK: ok thanks!
[16:28] <Daskreech> Does anyone know of a kmmoney4 ppa ?
[16:29] <genii> Weird, kdm isn't auto-starting now after latest update, although: sudo start kdm   works after console login. (10.04 64bit, KDE 4.3.85)
[16:30] <JontheEchidna> genii: yeah, hal funkiness. A fix will come with 4.4 RC1
[16:32] <freinhard> is there a successor of project neon? looks somewhat out of date
[16:34] <genii> JontheEchidna: OK, cool. Nothing critical, just annoying...
[16:34] <JontheEchidna> yeah...
[16:48] <JontheEchidna> Is anybody that uses proprietary drivers also running lucid?
[16:55] <genii> JontheEchidna: I'm using nvidia-vdpau ppa drivers
[16:56] <JontheEchidna> genii: do those show up in jockey?
[16:56] <genii> JontheEchidna: Lemme check
[16:57] <genii> JontheEchidna: Yup (the 195)
[16:57] <JontheEchidna> cool
[16:58] <JontheEchidna> could you run /usr/bin/jockey-kde and see if you can install/uininstall the drivers?
[16:58] <JontheEchidna> e.g., don't let kdesudo come up
[16:59] <JontheEchidna> I want to see if jockey's policykit stuff works now that KDE has a polkit-1 frontend. I'd test it myself but my only proprietary hardware has bit the dust
[16:59] <Riddell> tseliot was doing something with jockey earlier, it won't build because of kdebindings larks
[17:01] <JontheEchidna> I'm seeing if we can remove the Substitute UID key from jockey's .desktop file
[17:01] <JontheEchidna> and it looks like we can, according to jockey's changelog file
[17:01] <genii> JontheEchidna: Ok,  hangon (working here, apologies on lag)
[17:02] <JontheEchidna> genii: no prob, thanks. If everything goes well installing/uninstalling should pop up a kde policykit dialog
[17:03] <genii> JontheEchidna: "System policy prevents ..." passwd prompt
[17:03] <JontheEchidna> hmm
[17:03] <txwikinger> Which package contains the translations for kaddressbook again?
[17:06] <JontheEchidna> genii: nevermind, looks like the change I was wanting to make is already present in bzr :)
[17:06] <genii> JontheEchidna: I don't want to actually remove that driver though, it's the only one which actually works on my box... lag... OK, great
[17:06] <JontheEchidna> thanks for testing
[17:07] <genii> No problemmo
[17:07] <JontheEchidna> I hope jockey builds soon, not having to muck around with kdesudo to just start it will be sweet
[17:07] <JontheEchidna> oh, that being said the jockey-kde package should probably depend on polkit-kde-1 now
[17:08] <Riddell> txwikinger: kdepim
[17:09] <nixternal> ScottK: ppc up and running...my dog must have unplugged it
[17:10] <ScottK> nixternal: Thanks.
[17:10] <ScottK> nixternal: udev got installable and amarok built, so progress.
[17:27] <freinhard> what does one want to use instead of amarok-nightly-tools on karmic?
[17:28] <freinhard> got some strange bug in kopete with otr i'd like to fix, but don't want to mess up my system with "make install" stuff
[17:29] <neversfelde> freinhard: how about a chroot?
[17:30] <freinhard> anything that's easy to setup and does the job
[17:31] <neversfelde> freinhard: I would use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot for this
[17:32] <freinhard> 6month release cycle has some bad side effects, wiki's look badly outdated quite fast
[17:33] <freinhard> a chroot doesn't work like a sandbox, right?
[17:34] <neversfelde> freinhard: uh, sorry I am not an expert there
[17:35] <freinhard> last time i used a chroot was some years a go when i installed gentoo, but everything needs to be setup in the chroot, so you can't use anything from "outside". i remember gentoo used a sandbox to build and install packages. the build process "sees" everything from outside but can't write to the actual filesystem, that goes somewhere else
[17:38] <neversfelde> freinhard: the link I have posted provides a way to use applications from the chroot in the real environment
[17:45] <freinhard> i gues i'll just install a vm
[18:02] <Riddell> RC tagging confirmed due tonight
[18:07] <nixternal> dirk] ok, tarballs finished, uploading  <- Riddell :)
[18:07] <Riddell> nixternal: oh?  where's that?
[18:07] <nixternal> can't tell you
[18:07] <nixternal> there
[18:07] <Riddell> oh, really, secrets now is it? :)
[18:08] <nixternal> it used to be
[18:11] <Riddell> nixternal: nothing on ktown
[18:12] <nixternal> yeah, he is just starting to upload
[18:12] <nixternal> tarballs are finished
[18:15] <nixternal> drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root           48 Jan  6 18:36 4.3.87
[18:15] <nixternal> drwxrwx---    2 ftprelease packager       48 Jan  6 18:36 4.3.90
[18:15] <nixternal> Riddell: which on?
[18:15] <nixternal> which one rather?
[18:15] <nixternal> .87 or .90 is next
[18:16] <JontheEchidna> .90 is next
[18:17] <JontheEchidna> numbers that aren't divisible by 5 are usually weekly snapshots
[18:22] <JontheEchidna> 4.3.90 folder is present, but no tars yet. Guess they're still uploading
[18:31] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: any news from canonical folks on libssh?
[18:36] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: On the list, not at the top of it yet
[18:36] <JontheEchidna> :(
[18:39] <Riddell> !ninjas
[18:40] <Riddell> ~ninjas
[18:40] <maco> you're online?
[18:40] <maco> quassel says you're offline. how silly.
[18:40] <neversfelde> Help? :)
[18:40] <neversfelde> still no internet connection here :(
[18:41] <neversfelde> I can probably do some minor jobs with this UMTS stick
[18:41] <maco> i have neither packaging tools nor ssh/gpg keys here :(
[18:42] <maco> the computers with those are A) 250mi away or B) not able to be powered on
[18:42] <Riddell> neversfelde: how about oxygen-icons? :)
[18:48]  * jussi01 waves
[18:48]  * jussi01 waves again
[18:48]  * jussi01 is somewhat excited....
[18:49]  * jussi01 has an announcement to make!
[18:50]  * Nightrose wonders which
[18:50] <jussi01> Today my GF and I got engaged! :D
[18:50] <Nightrose> wohooooooooooo
[18:50] <JontheEchidna> \o/
[18:50] <Nightrose> congrats :)
[18:50] <ulysses__> congratulation jussi01 :)
[18:50] <jussi01> Ive  smile from ear to ear!
[18:50] <Nightrose> haha i can see it here!
[18:51] <nixternal> well, since eveyrone said congrats, I guess I will be real
[18:51] <jussi01> thanks Nightrose & ulysses__
[18:51] <nixternal> jussi01: sorry to hear that
[18:51] <nixternal> muhahahahah!!!! )*#)*@@!!!
[18:51] <jussi01> haha
[18:51]  * Nightrose pokes nixternal hard
[18:51] <Nightrose> :D
[18:51] <nixternal> hahaha
[18:51] <nixternal> come on, that was funny
[18:51] <nixternal> I had to do it
[18:51] <Nightrose> ;-)
[18:51] <jussi01> /mode +b %nixternal*!*@*
[18:51] <jussi01> :D
[18:51] <nixternal> that would do it, as I couldn't unban myself in here
[18:51] <jussi01> hehe
[18:53]  * Riddell hugs jussi01
[18:53]  * jussi01 hugs Riddell back!
[18:53] <maco> jussi01: congrats!
[18:53] <ulysses__> nixternal: however it's a good joke (:
[18:54] <maco> nixternal: i'm gonna guess you're divorced or headed there?
[18:54] <nixternal> I have been divorced for almost 10 years now
[18:54] <maco> figures
[18:55] <jussi01> nixternal: this is my second time ;)
[18:55] <nixternal> seriously?
[18:55] <nixternal> then you should know better! :p
[18:55] <nixternal> jussi01: you have been married before? you are an old fart then I take it
[18:56] <jussi01> nixternal: 27
[18:56] <nixternal> ahh, not an old fart yet
[18:57] <jussi01> nixternal: thanks for the clarification.... :P
[18:57] <nixternal> haha
[19:01] <Nightrose> lol
[19:28] <neversfelde> Riddell: sorry, I cannot get my desktop working with that UMTS stick, so I can't do oxygen icons :(
[19:37] <Riddell> neversfelde: it was a joke, I wouldn't want you doing a 120MB package over a mobile connection :)
[19:38] <neversfelde> Riddell: hehe, did no know that it has this size :)
[19:54] <Quintasan|Szel> jussi01: gratz, but what major achivement you pulled out? :)
[19:54] <Quintasan|Szel> pulled off rather
[19:55] <jussi01> Quintasan|Szel: I got engaged.
[19:55] <Quintasan|Szel> \o/
[19:55] <Quintasan|Szel> jussi01: congratulations then :)
[19:55] <jussi01> :D
[19:56]  * Quintasan|Szel hands cookies and vodka over to jussi01
[19:56] <jussi01> *g*
[19:57] <Quintasan|Szel> take as much as you want, I will somehow make apachelogger pay for it :P
[20:02] <jussi01> lol
[20:05] <nixternal> jjesse: you get any emails about the kubuntu chapter in the book?
[21:26] <slacker_nl> congrats jussi01
[22:35] <Lure> ENORIDDELL, how unexpected... ;-)
[22:36] <Lure> ScottK: do you also have ubuntu-archive powers and can execute sync requests?
[22:36]  * Lure has 3 syncs for exiv2 library transition
[22:36] <ScottK> Lure: No.  One needs shell access for that and only archive-admins who work for Canonical get that.
[22:37] <Lure> oh, I recall that issue from times when Hobbsee joined archive team as first non-Canonical
[22:37] <Lure> would have thought that this 2nd class archive members is already resolved...
[22:38] <Lure> will have to wait for Riddell then
[22:38]  * Lure looks into hugin merge instead...
[22:53]  * Lure notices that we do not have koffice2 2.1 released in november...
[22:59] <Lure> anybody knows why we have koffice2 and debian koffice (in experimental) and we claim we are synced?
[23:01] <Lure> I think we should drop koffice 1.x in lucid...


[12:49] <mssmss> Hi
[12:49] <mssmss> Can anyone help with a failed ltsp-build-client ?
[12:50] <mssmss> upgraded 8.04lts to 10.04 lts and clients would not connect anymore ...
[12:52] <mssmss> ltsp build clients gives : I: Base system installed successfully. and then  error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
[12:52] <mssmss> What could be wrong ?


[22:00] <rickest> mado: lspci | grep -i audio
[22:00] <mado> i will install wine ... and use "siw" ... this tool tells you some nice things about your computer
[22:00] <jpatrick> mado: I suggest reading the pages above, may be a tad easier
[22:00] <chemist109> quit
[22:00] <chemist109> oops
[22:00] <mado> rickest, ... that was the trick ...
[22:00] <mado> we forgot to use "-i"
[22:01] <mado> it says ... 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[22:02] <jpatrick> mado: aha, so it does find something!
[22:02] <jpatrick> mado: check what KMix says (Menu -> Multimedia)
[22:02] <mado> yeah jpatrick ... we forgot "-i" in the command
[22:02] <mado> how do i find out what kmix says?
[22:02] <mado> i started it
[22:03] <mado> next?
[22:03] <mado> :)
[22:03] <jpatrick> check if anything's mute or what level the volume's at
[22:04] <mado> i told you before that the speaker-symbol is shown with a white X on red background
[22:04] <algyz> mado:  use alsamixer
[22:04] <mado> so there is no way to change the volume :)
[22:04] <jpatrick> mado: never seen that before..
[22:04] <mado> algyz, ... alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[22:05] <Kr|ptiX> how do i open ports ?
[22:05] <mado> wait a second !
[22:06] <mado> here ...
[22:06] <mado> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller
[22:06] <mado> when i scroll down the page ...
[22:06] <mado> to look for my notebook ... i find these two pages ...
[22:06] <mado> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SigmaTel
[22:06] <mado> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JonLeighton
[22:07] <mado> and i remember the "sig
[22:07] <mado> "sigmatel"-thing
[22:07] <mado> it was on a windows-drivers-cd
[22:08] <mado> oh ... a pity ...
[22:08] <mado> This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. Before creating the page, please check if a similar page already exists.
[22:08] <jpatrick> hm, never heard of it before
[22:09]  * jpatrick goes off to bed, night everyone!
[22:09] <mado> good night jpatrick
[22:09] <jpatrick> mado: good night and good luck!
[22:09] <mado> thank you :)
[22:11] <Kr|ptiX> does any1 know how to open ports ?
[22:11] <Claybrain145> Build more docks?
[22:12] <siofwolves> when i shutdown/logoff/reboot etc, my system freezes. i can use alt+sys req rseiub to shutdown safely. shutdown +h now in a terminal works fine. i'm using kde 3.5.8.
[22:16] <charwood> Kr|ptiX: In what sense?  Programattically?  On your firewall?
[22:16] <ddurham> I just upgraded to the kubuntu 8.04 beta, and eclipse stopped working (with about 3 different JVMs), anyone else seeing this issue?
[22:17] <Kr|ptiX> charwood: firewall im tryn to open port 6667
[22:17] <Daisuke_Ido> nothing is closed by default
[22:17] <Daisuke_Ido> forward it in your router
[22:19] <sourcemaker> should I start hdparm at boot time?
[22:24] <myk_> /join
[22:28] <myk_> hey. how do i make samba load when i boot up? As it stands, i have to run /etc/init.d/samba start  when i boot
[22:28] <nickv111> Hello, everyone
[22:29] <nickv111> My friend and I were trying to hook up a VGA monitor to my laptop recently, and put all of the settings back to normal after we were done. However, my KDE background is solid blue, and I cannot change it
[22:29] <sercik> hi! someone?
[22:29] <nickv111> I've gone to System Settings and tried numerous things, as well as trying xsetroot
[22:29] <nickv111> Nothing has worked, and it's still just a solid blue background. Any ideas?
[22:29] <jpatrick> !someone | sercik
[22:29] <ubotu> sercik: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[22:30] <sercik> problem with wireless on my acer 5920g
[22:30] <sercik> in ifconfig i see wlan0 but it seems not working
[22:31] <nickv111> sercik: Do you see anything like ath0 or the like?
[22:31] <nickv111> sercik: Often wlan0 is not the interface you want to use.
[22:31] <nickv111> Ah, wait.
[22:31] <nickv111> I believe I was thinking wifi0
[22:31] <sercik> i see wlan0 and wmaster0
[22:31] <nickv111> Anyway. . . Why does it not appear to be working?
[22:32] <sercik> the strange is that in ubuntu it works perfectly out of the box
[22:32] <sercik> but in kubuntu don't
[22:32] <nickv111> Odd.
[22:32] <sercik> also button to enable or disable works in ubuntu
[22:33] <sercik> some ideas?
[22:33] <kernco> How do I add a path for the applications that appear in the KDE4 menu?
[22:34] <charwood> Kr|ptiX: I don't know about firewall, sorry.  (And sorry I took a bit to respond)  I didn't think that ubuntu came with a firewall installed.
[22:34] <nickv111> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-linux&m=115758887106759&w=2
[22:34] <nickv111> I did find htat
[22:34] <nickv111> that*
[22:34] <nickv111> Perhaps I will try it. BRB.
[22:35] <unix_infidel> anyone here use picasa?
[22:35] <unix_infidel> looking to find out what kinda memory / processor footprint it has.
[22:37] <sercik> help to configure wireless?
[22:38] <nickv111> Yep, that worked. Apparently, it was just a troubled section in my kdesktoprc
[22:43] <sourcemaker> is there a meta package available to install kde full?
[22:43] <sourcemaker> I am using hard beta
[22:43] <sourcemaker> hardy beta
[22:43] <nosrednaekim> kubuntu-desktop
[22:44] <sercik> please someone have a intel pro wireless working on kubuntu?
[22:46] <myk_> i have blacklisted two modules, ssb and b43, however ssb still loads on startup and must manually be stopped before ndiswrapper will work.. Why is this module still loading?
[22:47] <nones> hola
[22:47] <kaminix> Is there any good program out there to try and read pdf's consisting of images to turn into text pdfs?
[22:47] <nones> alguien me puede ayudar
[22:47] <nones> es un canal sobre kubuntu aki????
[22:47] <jussi01> !es
[22:47] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:48] <nones> ok
[22:48] <nones> no problem
[22:48] <nones> but that was spanish lol
[22:49] <nones> ok
[22:49] <nones> so can any 1 help me
[22:49] <jussi01> !ask
[22:49] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:49] <nones> i was trying to install kubuntu but
[22:49] <nones> it does start but when i clcick on install now
[22:50] <nones> ay appears a message taht say: YOUR CPU DOES NOT SUPPORT LONG MODE: USE A 32 BIT DISTRIBUTION
[22:51] <PhilRod> are you trying to install 64-bit kubuntu on a 32-bit cpu?
[22:51] <nones> I DON´T NOW
[22:51] <nones> sorry
[22:51] <jussi01> nones: it sounds that way
[22:51] <hellhound> does anyone know what I can test to find out why one of my computers with kubuntu is running so slow?
[22:51] <jussi01> nones: are you on the live cd now?
[22:51] <nones> the 1 i got say kubuntu 7.10 desktop amd 64
[22:52] <nones> that
[22:52] <jussi01> nones: and what pc do you have?
[22:52] <nosrednaekim> hellhound: yeah... run ctrl+esc and see what is using the most CPU/RAM
[22:52] <nones> i have a frankestien
[22:52] <nones> lol
[22:52] <nones> is a compak evo
[22:52] <nones> compaq evo
[22:52] <jussi01> nones: need a little more info than that...
[22:52] <nones> like???
[22:52] <jussi01> nones: how old is it?
[22:52] <nones> intel pentium 4
[22:53] <nosrednaekim> you need i386 for that one
[22:53] <nones> i got that also
[22:53] <nones> but is to big
[22:54] <SlimeyPete> too big?  Or amd64?
[22:57] <nones> look let me slow down a bit and explain
[22:57] <SlimeyPete> ok.
[22:57] <nones> the second on is the one i burned
[22:57] <hellhound> nosrednaekim: nothing seems to be really being used
[22:58] <nones> and thats the one that when i try to install a message appears that say:
[22:58] <SlimeyPete> the second one? the amd64 one?
[22:58] <nones> yes
[22:58] <nones> that on
[22:58] <SlimeyPete> right, that's why it doesn't work
[22:58] <SlimeyPete> you don't have an amd64 system.
[22:58] <nones> i can run it from my desk
[22:58] <nones> ????
[22:58] <nones> nice question
[22:58] <nones> and i have no clow
[22:58] <SlimeyPete> pentium 4 is not amd64.
[22:58] <nones> clue
[22:58] <SlimeyPete> pentium 4 is i386
[22:59] <nosrednaekim> hellhound: did you sort it by CPU use?.... click on the top of the CPU usage list to sort by cpu usage
[22:59] <nones> i have a pentium intel 4
[22:59] <nones> how do i get to know that??
[22:59] <SlimeyPete> right, for a pentium 4 you must use the i386 iso.
[22:59] <nones> mmm
[23:00] <nones> that is a big problem cause i can burn that in a dvd
[23:00] <SlimeyPete> the amd64 iso requires a 64-bit processor to work properly, you see. Your processor is 32-bit.
[23:00] <nones> ok
[23:01] <hellhound> nosrednaekim: yes i did sort it... ksysguard is using the most at about 10% but it changes to 1.49 or zero the only thing else using is d3lphin
[23:01] <nones> well so is there any way to force the recording into de dvd i got??
[23:01] <nones> i got a dvd of 4.7 Gb from sony
[23:01] <nones> does that help??
[23:01] <JohnFlux> hellhound: what's the problem?
[23:01] <nones> so you can help me
[23:02] <JohnFlux> hellhound: ah running slo
[23:02] <JohnFlux> w
[23:02] <SlimeyPete> nones: so hang on, how big is the i386 iso file you downloaded?
[23:02] <JohnFlux> hellhound: if you run 'top' on the console, what does it say your load average is?  (top right numbers)
[23:02] <nones> 4.
[23:02] <nosrednaekim> hellhound: what about RAM usage?
[23:02] <nones> 4.27 Gb
[23:02] <nones> thats the one i got
[23:03] <hellhound> JohnFlux: it is just running much much slower than my other computers... everything from typing in the terminal (delay of 1-3 seconds from when I type) to clicking on menus (delay of 1-5 seconds to open the menu)
[23:03] <JohnFlux> hellhound: well try out what I suggested
[23:03] <nones> and it took about 12 hrs to down load since last night untill late this morning
[23:03] <SlimeyPete> hmmm, it really should just work, nones. It's small enough to fit. What software are you using to burn it?
[23:03] <nones> nero
[23:03] <hellhound> JohnFlux: the load average is 3.28 2.14 1.69
[23:03] <SlimeyPete> how odd. I can burn it in nero, onto a standard DVD.
[23:04] <JohnFlux> hellhound: hmm I thought so
[23:04] <nones> but it doesnt reconize de dvd on the burner
[23:04] <SlimeyPete> nones: ah. I think you may have to make sure nero is in dvd mode.
[23:04] <nones> is nero 8
[23:04] <JohnFlux> hellhound: that roughly means that the processes are demanding 3 cpu's worth of processing
[23:05] <nones> and is a real hasle
[23:05] <nones> nasty
[23:05] <JohnFlux> hellhound: which is high :-D
[23:05] <nones> just cant get it
[23:05] <nones> can you guide me please
[23:05] <SlimeyPete> nones: try http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm  . It is free and I have used it before.
[23:05] <JohnFlux> hellhound: since it's not a process doing this, I can only assume it's a kernel driver
[23:05] <SlimeyPete> it seemed to work OK.
[23:05] <nones> ok
[23:05] <nones> let me see
[23:05] <hellhound> JohnFlux: how is that so?  it is really not doing anything but serving as a file server, with very little demand on it
[23:05] <SlimeyPete> nones: oh wait, only if you have vista
[23:06] <SlimeyPete> nones: it doesn't support DVDs under xp, damn.
[23:06] <JohnFlux> hellhound: and I don't really know how to advise you.  Google for  'high load average' 'no programs'   or some such
[23:06] <JohnFlux> hellhound: it's a fairly common problem, but I don't know the solution
[23:06] <JohnFlux> hellhound: if you find out more, let me know please so that I can advise the next person :)
[23:07] <SlimeyPete> nones: I'm not sure about Nero 8, but I that when you start Nero 7 you have to select between DVD and CD - the main menu has two "modes". You need to make sure that it's in DVD mode.
[23:08] <sourcemaker> is there a kde meta package for all kde components? kdebase. kdegames, kdedevelop and so on?
[23:08] <nones> it also say something about 64 bit
[23:08] <nones> and as i understood i have 32 bit am i right??
[23:08] <nosrednaekim> hellhound: whats your current RAM usage?
[23:08] <SlimeyPete> nones: you are
[23:09] <meeero> hi, it's about 7.10, a fresh-install. nvidia-settings tell me that the monitor supports max. 1024x768 when set to auto, but i can manually override it to 1280x1024 and even more. it's a huge monitor and DPMS seems to tell the software that no more than 1024x768 is possible
[23:09] <meeero> well, the problem now is that i can override it using xrandr or nvidia-settings, but kde sets the resolution back to 1024x768 at every startup, any ideas?
[23:10] <nones> ok
[23:10] <nones> ok
[23:10] <meeero> the monitor-settings in kcontrol can't set more than 1024x768, so i guess it's because of this
[23:10] <nones> then i have anther problem cause i have win xp
[23:10] <nones> i know
[23:10] <nones> please dont get mad
[23:10] <nones> sorry for the trouble
[23:10] <nones> i am slow
[23:10] <SlimeyPete> heh, it's no problem
[23:11] <nones> new on this and i want to learn
[23:11] <meeero> they also seem to show a wrong frequency, 50hz is max. in kcontrol, but nvidia-settings say that about 100 is possible
[23:11] <nones> sorry for the inconvient slimeypete
[23:11] <SlimeyPete> nones: ah, hang on a moment, I have another idea
[23:11] <nosrednaekim> meeero: you have the nvidia driver installed, and are currently using them?
[23:12] <meeero> yes, nvidia is in Xorg
[23:12] <meeero> loaded and working successfully
[23:12] <nejode> meeero: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg??
[23:12] <SlimeyPete> nones: get imgburn from http://www.imgburn.com/   it is free and I am pretty sure it does dvd
[23:12] <meeero> sorry, but what would that change?
[23:12] <meeero> i mean, i can try it
[23:13] <nones> i did daown load the other one
[23:13] <nosrednaekim> meeero: you can add resolutions
[23:13] <nones> and it suppose to be installed by now but i dont see it any where
[23:13] <SlimeyPete> nones: I don't think isorecorder will work for DVDs because you don't have vista
[23:13] <nejode> meeero: there's a part where it asks you to choose your prefered resolution
[23:13] <nones> and i can assure you that is not because i am torpe
[23:13] <SlimeyPete> nones: so I think you can forget about isorecorder. imgburn should work though.
[23:13] <nones> ok
[23:14] <nones> lets see
[23:15] <meeero> but i could manually add these lines?
[23:16] <nejode> meeero: make a backup copy of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and run the command...
[23:16] <nejode> ...if something goes wrong you can always use your backup copy
[23:16] <meeero> it asks a lot of questions, i'm not sure about every single one and the current config is not really a help to determine the current settings, i'll try to add the lines manually first, backup created of course
[23:17] <meeero> the problem now is, it says:
[23:17] <meeero> Modes      "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[23:17] <meeero> and Option         "metamodes" "nvidia-auto-select +0+0; 1280x1024 +0+0"
[23:17] <cptR3D> can someone help me with mounting a usb harddrive with ntfs on it?
[23:17] <meeero> so 1280x1024 is already the preferred choise
[23:18] <nosrednaekim> meeero: erase that Option metamodes line
[23:18] <meeero> it's about kde then, it lowers the resolution because it thinks, 1024x768 is the maximum, i can't set more in kcontrol
[23:18] <nones> ok i got a lot
[23:19] <nejode> meeero: that must be because of the sync values of the monitor
[23:20] <siofwolves> cptR3D, do you know what name kubuntu has gave to your usb drive ? /dev/sd?
[23:20] <nejode> meeero: do you have the specs of your monitor?
[23:21] <nones> ok would i choose the one that say DATA DVD or VIDEO DVD or DATA HD-DVD? to record the kubunt i386???
[23:21] <SlimeyPete> DATA DVD
[23:21] <nones> ok
[23:22] <Jucato> huh?
[23:22] <nones> lets see
[23:22] <Jucato> "to record the kubuntu i386"?
[23:22] <hellhound> JohnFlux: ok i am having difficulty trying to find anything in google, but those numbers seem to match what other people have where the support says that it is fine... my numbers are now 1.04, 1.29, 1.47 and still running slow
[23:22] <cptR3D> duude i totally just figured it out
[23:22] <cptR3D> siofwolves: thx ne way
[23:22] <nones> let you know
[23:22] <Jucato> nones: what do you mean to record?
[23:22] <SlimeyPete> Jucato: he has the DVD i386 iso
[23:22] <SlimeyPete> nero 8 won't burn it for him
[23:22] <SlimeyPete> so I told him to use imgburn
[23:22] <siofwolves> cptR3D, np
[23:23] <SlimeyPete> hopefully that will work better.
[23:23] <Jucato> nones, SlimeyPete: you don't create a Data DVD from an ISO. otherwise it will just burn an .iso file unto the DVD
[23:23] <SlimeyPete> Jucato: eh?
[23:23] <Jucato> There should be an option there like "Burn Image"
[23:23] <SlimeyPete> imgburn should burn the iso as a disc image
[23:23] <SlimeyPete> because disc images are all that imgburn does
[23:23] <SlimeyPete> Jucato: nero told him it was too big for the DVD
[23:24] <Jucato> oh
[23:24] <SlimeyPete> which suggests to me that nero is broken in some way
[23:24] <Jucato> SlimeyPete: imgburn calls it "Data DVD"?
[23:24] <SlimeyPete> yes. It can burn data or video images you see.
[23:24] <SlimeyPete> or HD DVD images, apparently O.o
[23:24] <SlimeyPete> but it does burn them as images, not files.
[23:25] <Jucato> weird and confusing name :)
[23:25] <nones> ok
[23:25] <nones> i couldnt do it
[23:26] <SlimeyPete> why not?
[23:26] <nones> it appear that for some reason the drive dont detect the dvd
[23:27] <SlimeyPete> nones: does your drive normally burn DVDs OK?
[23:27] <nones> this is the first time iam trying to
[23:28] <nones> this is a combo cd-dvd burner
[23:28] <hellhound> does anyone else know what I can test to find out why one of my computers with kubuntu is running so slow?  Top does not appear to show anything of high usage.. but everything from typing to clicking on menus is delayed 1-5 seconds
[23:28] <SlimeyPete> nones: oh. I think your drive is not working properly for some reason. Or maybe the disc is broken. Are you sure it is a DVD burner, and not a CD burner with a DVD *reader*?
[23:28] <nones> mmmm
[23:29] <nones> i see
[23:29] <SlimeyPete> nones: it is common to have a combo drive that reads DVD and CDs but only writes CDs.
[23:29] <nones> that is the nasty reallity
[23:29] <nones> that is my case
[23:29] <nosrednaekim> hellhound: what is your memory usage? use "free -m" to tell you
[23:29] <nones> so i am stock on this nasty win xp
[23:29] <SlimeyPete> ok, if you can only burn CDs then you need to download the CD ISO: http://softlibre.unizar.es/ubuntu/releases/kubuntu/gutsy/kubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[23:29] <nones> oo
[23:29] <SlimeyPete> it is 700MB and will fit on a CD.
[23:29] <nones> then theres a solution
[23:29] <nones> let me download that
[23:30] <SlimeyPete> ok. It should work :)
[23:30] <nones> is it complete as well as the other??
[23:30] <charwood> hellhound: Not an expert, but your slowness could be from the hard drive, not the processor.  This can happen if for some reason DMA is turned off.  To check this, open a konsole and type: "sudo hdparm -i /dev/sda1" (replace sda1 with your drive)
[23:30] <SlimeyPete> it has the whole Kubuntu system on it. It does not have as much software but you can easily download the software you need from the internet - it is all automated and very easy to do.
[23:30] <hellhound> nosrednaekim: it shows total 1011 used 890 free 121
[23:31] <SlimeyPete> most people use the CD iso
[23:31] <nones> nice
[23:32] <nones> thank you very much
[23:32] <nosrednaekim> hellhound: is that from the second line of the output?
[23:32] <nones> hard to find peopple like you
[23:32] <SlimeyPete> nones: no problem, I am happy to help.
[23:32] <Jucato> yeah.. it's hard to find slimey people :)
[23:32] <SlimeyPete> heh
[23:32]  * Jucato whistles innocently
[23:32] <SlimeyPete> not if you carry around a bucket of slime wherever you go
[23:33] <charwood> nosrednaekim: This will sound like a dumb question, but bear with me.  (-8  Is the cache column on free -m the actual amount of your memory used by the kernel for cache (i.e. memory that could be considered free?)
[23:33] <nones> thanks
[23:33] <nones> i have another problem
[23:34] <nones> can`t down load the page
[23:34] <hellhound> nosrednaekim: Mem: total = 1011  used=890  free=121 shared=0  buffers=59  cached=722     -/+buffers cached: used=108 free=903    Swap: total=996 used=0 free=996   that is everything it had
[23:34] <Jucato> !ram | charwood
[23:34] <ubotu> charwood: A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[23:34] <nosrednaekim> charwood: no... the +/- buffers/cache is the ACTUAL memory usage not counting the cache
[23:34] <nosrednaekim> hellhound: hrm.. you are good int hat department
[23:34] <nones> forget it
[23:35] <nones> it is down loading some how
[23:35] <nones> ther is a God
[23:35] <SlimeyPete> heh
[23:35] <nones> thank you very much
[23:35] <SlimeyPete> no problem.
[23:35] <nones> i have been trying with this for 2 weeks finally i can se a nice way to do it
[23:36] <nones> so this is gonna take awhile right??
[23:36] <SlimeyPete> yes, it will take a while to download
[23:36] <nones> to download?
[23:36] <SlimeyPete> it is quite big, though it is nowhere near as big as the DVD
[23:36] <SlimeyPete> so it should download faster than the DVD did.
[23:36] <nones> thank you again and i let you know
[23:36] <SlimeyPete> :)
[23:37] <nones> yes is about 3 hrs or less
[23:37] <nones> nice very nice
[23:37] <hellhound> nosrednaekim: that is good memtest did not reveal anything either.... at first someone thought it was the mouse, but I replaced that without any real help... also this computer is a file server using samba and when a desktop tries to access it... it is also very slow
[23:37] <nones> there is my mail in case you wanna stay in touch with a very torpe guy on this matter
[23:37] <nones><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:37] <charwood> On a memory related question in KDE System Guard, are VmSize and VmRss equivalent to Memory Used and Memory Used - Cache respectively?
[23:37] <nosrednaekim> hellhound: thats really odd, You really shouldn't have to do this,but does rebooting fix it?
[23:38] <charwood> hellhound: Did you check the DMA on your hard drive?
[23:38] <hellhound> nosrednaekim: no i have tried rebooting several times
[23:38] <nosrednaekim> charwood: not sure..... I think VmSize the correct one to go by though
[23:40] <hellhound> charwood: i am getting /dev/sdc1: HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed: Invalid argument when I type sudo hdparm -i /dev/sdc1
[23:40] <dorkface> I am curious about something.  Can one have a desktop environment like KDE, but not use Kwin as the window manager, but some other one, like awesome?
[23:41] <nosrednaekim> dorkface: yes
[23:41] <charwood> dorkface: You can use beryl or compiz as your window manager instead.
[23:41] <dorkface> ah, cool
[23:41] <nosrednaekim> dorkface: just run "awesome --replace"
[23:41] <Jucato> dorkface: general info: <apt> You can change the window manager used by KDE with the $KDEWM environment variable. See http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/kdewm/
[23:41] <Jucato> for Compiz, it's a bit different, but basically the same
[23:41] <charwood> Is "awesome" an actual window manager?
[23:42] <Jucato> charwood: yeah... weird eh? :P
[23:42] <Jucato> http://awesome.naquadah.org/
[23:42] <charwood> Huh.  Sounds... awesome.
[23:42] <Koji-Murasame> Anyone having/had issues with their video card in the Kubuntu Hardy Beta?
[23:42] <Jucato> Koji-Murasame: #ubuntu+1 please
[23:43] <dorkface> Yeah, i'd be nice to have a window manager with the ability to be used completely by keyboard by default
[23:43] <Jucato> dorkface: Alt+Tab doesn't work?
[23:43]  * Jucato notes that KWin has a lot of manipulation keyboard shortcuts...
[23:43] <dorkface> Jucato: that's all a window manager does?
[23:43] <dorkface> I thought it did more
[23:44] <Jucato> dorkface: what are you referring to?
[23:44] <dorkface> like, binding a specific key to "raise" a specific program
[23:44] <Jucato> aaah
[23:45] <kdedev> hi
[23:45] <Jucato> if you mean "a specific program", then no... KWin doesn't seem to have that (you have cycle through Alt+Tab)
[23:45] <dorkface> yeah
[23:45] <Jucato> (although in KWin 4 the expose function allows you to start typing)
[23:46] <nosrednaekim> dorkface: yes,you can bind keys to applications
[23:46] <dorkface> I'd like to bind a key so that, no matter what I am doing, I can press, say, F10, and the konsole window will "raise" and come into focus
[23:46] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: to raise them?
[23:46] <Jucato> oh wait yeah
[23:46] <nosrednaekim> yep
[23:46] <Jucato> dorkface: lol sorry you can do that :)
[23:46] <nosrednaekim> you can do ANYTHING
[23:46] <dorkface> Jucato: haha
[23:46]  * Jucato headdesks
[23:47] <Jucato> you can do that perfectly in kwin... and I've been doing it in the past but I've forgotten hehehe
[23:47] <charwood> dorkface: System Settings->Keyboard and Mouse->Command Shortcutes
[23:47] <Jucato> charwood: nope not that way
[23:47] <charwood> Jucato: Why not?
[23:47]  * Jucato used to bind Win+T to Konsole.. but stopped doing that since Yakuake
[23:47] <Jucato> charwood: what he's trying to do can't be setup from there
[23:47] <Jucato> I mean what he wants to do
[23:47] <nosrednaekim> charwood: right click on the window border->preferences
[23:48] <Jucato> dorkface: Alt+F3 or right-click on the window title bar -> Advanced -> Special Application Settings
[23:48] <dorkface> Jucato: ok, there :)
[23:48]  * Jucato glances at nosrednaekim... "Preferences"?... you're doing GNOME-talk P
[23:48] <Jucato> Preferences tab yes :D
[23:48] <kdedev> smile, you are being recorded!
[23:49] <cuznt> :)
[23:49] <vistalite> Jucato: i am running a mix of gnome and kde
[23:49] <vistalite> D:
[23:49] <nosrednaekim> configure window behavior
[23:49] <vistalite> its called windows vista  :)
[23:49] <nosrednaekim> yeah... :)
[23:50] <dorkface> Jucato: I don't see where I can bind what I want to a key
[23:51] <Jucato> dorkface: Alt+F3 or right-click on the window title bar -> Advanced -> Special Application Settings -> Preferences tab -> Shortcut
[23:51] <dorkface> Jucato: That will just "raise" it, it won't instanciate another session of konsole?
[23:51] <Jucato> yep
[23:52] <dorkface> dorkface: sweet
[23:52] <dorkface> doh,
[23:52] <Jucato> talking to ourself now, are we? :)
[23:52] <nosrednaekim> nosrednaekim: hey there
[23:53] <Jucato> dorkface: alternatively... you can always use Yakuake instead... :)
[23:53] <vistalite> Jucato:  how come i always think you can do more on xp than on kubuntu am i indoctrinated/
[23:53] <vistalite> ?
[23:53] <dorkface> Jucato: is that a terminal program?
[23:53] <vistalite> D:
[23:53] <vistalite> dorkface: hai2u
[23:53] <Jucato> dorkface: yes. it's a Quake-like terminal
[23:53] <usuario_> hola
[23:54] <vistalite> :)
[23:54] <vistalite> ketal
[23:54] <vistalite> jejejeje xD
[23:54] <vistalite> !en
[23:54] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[23:54] <vistalite> i know i know D:
[23:54] <dorkface> Jucato: "Quake-like"?  Wow, I'll have to look into it
[23:54] <usuario_> argentina
[23:54] <Jucato> dorkface: it uses an embedded Konsole. so you get Konsole's power :)
[23:54] <vistalite> but RMS is working hard on making esparanto a world language
[23:54] <nosrednaekim> !yakuake
[23:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yakuake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:55] <Jucato> dorkface: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Yakuake?content=29153
[23:55] <usuario_> spañol
[23:55] <Jucato> dorkface: it's in the repos so you can install it and test easily
[23:55] <usuario_> spanish
[23:55] <Odd-rationale> !info yakuake
[23:55] <Jucato> !es | usuario_
[23:55] <ubotu> usuario_: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:55] <dorkface> Jucato: test it?  is it in beta?
[23:55] <Jucato> Odd-rationale: !info is still broken it seems
[23:55] <Odd-rationale> Jucato: awww..
[23:55] <Jucato> dorkface: no. test it as in "try it out for yourself"
[23:55] <dorkface> Jucato: ah :)
[23:56] <dorkface> Jucato: DUDE, multiple terminal windows within a window!
[23:57] <Jucato> dorkface: hm?
[23:57] <dorkface> Jucato: http://kde-apps.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=29153&file1=29153-1.jpg&file2=29153-2.jpg&file3=29153-3.png&name=Yakuake
[23:57] <dorkface> or maybe its just two sessions
[23:57] <Jucato> dorkface: ah you mean split views? yes
[23:58] <Jucato> Konsole only has that in KDE 4
[23:58] <Jucato> (and even then.. it's a bit.... sucky)
[23:58] <dorkface> Jucato: I'm sold!
[23:58] <Jucato> well not really split "views"... but you get what I mean :)
[23:58] <vistalite> Jucato:  how can i make dolphin look like forklift of osx?
[23:59] <Jucato> forklift?
[23:59] <vistalite> filemanager
[23:59] <vistalite> of osx
[23:59] <kdedev> hi


[15:03] <caboose885> Hi all, I'm a new Ubuntu member and I would like to request a cloak. Thanks. LP:https://launchpad.net/~caboose885
[15:04]  * Myrtti prods IRCC
[15:06] <Pici> caboose885: Congrats
[15:06] <Pici> Myrtti: Could you please give caboose885 an ubuntu/member/caboose885 cloak?
[15:06] <Myrtti> congratulations caboose885, and you're welcome
[15:07] <caboose885> thanks Pici and Myrtti
[15:07] <caboose885> that was easy :)
[15:10]  * caboose885 goes back to #ubuntuforums and ubuntuforums.com support
[15:10]  * Pici waves
[16:08] <LjL> Pici: could you please give Harry an invisibility cloak?
[19:58] <spider_> hello
[19:58] <spider_> I was hoping to set up a new channel, and was wondering how I could do that
[19:58] <spider_> ?
[20:00] <Fuchs> spider_: well, if it is not taken yet: http://blog.freenode.net/2008/04/registering-a-channel-on-freenode/
[20:00] <spider_> thank you :)
[20:00] <Fuchs> spider_: if it is a channel in the ubuntu namespace  (#ubuntu-*)   you probably should check first whether you represent that, as ubuntu group contacts can take it away from you
[20:01] <Fuchs> spider_: if it is _not_ about an ubuntu channel: you ended up in the wrong place somewhat, ask stuff in #freenode :)
[20:01] <Fuchs> but since I would just say that over there: in addition to http://blog.freenode.net/2008/04/registering-a-channel-on-freenode/, please do read http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#channelnaming
[20:01] <Fuchs> oh, and you need to have an account here first, so see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup or /msg nickserv help register  for the short version. Make sure to use a valid e-mail address and check for a confirmation e-mail after you registered.
[20:03] <spider_> another question - how do you create a ubuntu wiki page? I have defined the layout on wiki.ubuntu.com/TEAMNAME, but can't chang the /TEAMANEM
[20:03] <k1l> spider_: since you ask in here you maybe want to setup a channel that is in the ubuntu namespace see this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/CreatingChannels
[20:20] <Unit193> Information overload. ;)
[20:25] <nik90> Can anyone add a IRC cloak for me. My Launchpad link is https://launchpad.net/~nik90. I have registered my irc nick.
[20:29] <Fuchs> nik90: looks good so far, just wait for someone from IRCC to show up
[20:29] <k1l> nik90: looks good. just wait for some IRCC member to confirm, so that a staff member can set it :)
[20:30] <nik90> Fuchs, k1l: okay. thnx :)
[20:44] <AlanBell> hi nik90
[20:45] <AlanBell> staff can we have an ubuntu/member/nik90 cloak for nik90 please
[20:46] <nik90> hi AlanBell
[20:47] <AlanBell> Pricey: o/
[20:47]  * Pricey looks
[20:48] <Pricey> nik90: AlanBell: All set.
[20:48] <AlanBell> yay, thanks Pricey
[20:49] <IdleOne> congrats nik90
[20:52] <nik90> Pricey: thnx
[20:52] <nik90> IdleOne: thanks
[20:54] <Pricey> nik90: No problem!


[05:39] <didrocks> good morning
[05:46] <bittin> morning
[06:23] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:42] <didrocks> hey oSoMoN
[06:47] <jibel> Good morning all
[06:49] <didrocks> salut jibel
[06:59] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks, jibel
[07:41] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[07:46] <oSoMoN> salut seb128, ça va?
[07:52] <seb128> oSoMoN, salut, nickel! et toi ?
[07:54] <didrocks> salut seb128
[07:55] <seb128> lut didrocks! c'est la forme ?
[07:58] <didrocks> ça va :)
[08:03] <oSoMoN> seb128, ça va!
[08:03] <oSoMoN> it's a very French morning on IRC :)
[08:11]  * schopin pokes out his head too :)
[09:43] <ricotz> hello everyone
[09:45] <seb128> ricotz, hey ricotz, how are you doing?
[09:46] <ricotz> seb128, hey, all good, looks like a happy and sunny friday :)
[09:47] <ricotz> seb128, how is the french connection doing? ;P
[09:48] <seb128> ricotz, doing alright, it's a sunny friday here also and monday is an holiday so let's hope it's a nice long weekend :)
[09:49] <seb128> getting frustrated at libsdl2 failing on arm64 builders meanwhile but not on a virtual ppa or a cloud instance
[09:50] <seb128> I tried to push some hacks to get a stacktrace on the builder, including installing systemd-coredump and doing a dmesg but that isn't working, I call called gdb in non interactive mode but it didn't segfault :-/
[09:50] <ricotz> I see :(, there are some more unhappy packages like tiff, cups and librsvg
[09:51] <ricotz> heisen-bugs are the best :(
[09:53]  * ricotz goes for lunch
[09:54] <seb128> librsvg is probably similar to https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/librsvg/-/issues/724
[09:55] <seb128> ' There are certainly differences in 80-bit floating-point operations as in i386, versus 64-bit floats on SSE'
[09:55] <seb128> :-(
[11:13] <jbicha> happy Friday!
[11:19] <seb128> jbicha, hey happy friday to you!
[11:21] <jbicha> seb128: what does the part about pipewire-pulse mean in bug 1949776 ?
[11:22] <jbicha> because wireplumber currently Recommends pipewire-pulse
[11:23] <seb128> jbicha, the MIR was opened previous cycle because we needed pipewire for remote desktop and screen sharing but we still had pulseaudio as the sound server
[11:23] <seb128> but then we decided to stick to pipewire-media-session because it made easier to disable the audio part
[11:23] <jbicha> oh, got it!
[11:24] <seb128> jbicha, thanks for pointing it out, I deleted that part of the description now
[11:24] <jbicha> I'm adding wireplumber as a Depends for ubuntu-desktop-minimal now
[11:30] <seb128> jbicha, you can restore the libspa-0.2-bluetooth R while you are at it I think
[11:31] <seb128> jbicha, the libldac MIR also got a +1 today
[11:41] <MiLeon> hello
[11:42] <MiLeon> i have a problem with a installation from ubuntu 22.04 on a Lenovo L470. the installation stopps with E/A error. I have replaced with a other ssd, but same problem
[11:42] <diddledani> MiLeon: this is a developers channel, for support you want #ubuntu
[11:43] <MiLeon> ah ok thank you
[12:03] <RikMills> oSoMoN: how do you install the experimental firefox snap with the native messaging host portal support?
[13:23] <oSoMoN> RikMills, you need to get the snap from there: https://launchpad.net/~osomon/+snap/firefox-native-messaging
[13:23] <oSoMoN> it's not published in the store yet
[13:23] <oSoMoN> (disclaimer: it hasn't been rebuilt in a while, I'll fix that)
[13:24] <KGB-2> gnome-shell-extensions signed tags f4b65d4 Jeremy Bicha upstream/42.2 * Upstream version 42.2 * https://deb.li/TRJM
[13:24] <KGB-2> gnome-shell-extensions pristine-tar eeafaca Jeremy Bicha gnome-shell-extensions_42.2.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-shell-extensions_42.2.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-shell-extensions_42.2.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3qRrU
[13:27] <schopin> oSoMoN: status report: upstream master doesn't have the bug, bisecting to find the fix but that has been taking forever.
[13:29] <oSoMoN> schopin, ok. I feel your pain, I know from experience that bisecting failures on large packages is a time-consuming and frustrating process.
[13:35] <schopin> Well at least I *can* bisect and hope to find a patch. I really wouldn't want to have to come up with a solve by my lonesome.
[13:38] <RikMills> oSoMoN: aha, and thanks
[13:58] <KGB-0> aisleriot signed tags ab7be55 Jeremy Bicha upstream/3.22.23 * Upstream version 3.22.23 * https://deb.li/3OXLN
[13:58] <KGB-0> aisleriot upstream/latest dce1d6b Jeremy Bicha * pushed 25 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/38OVg
[13:58] <KGB-0> aisleriot upstream/latest 803a4df Christian Persch (6 files in 3 dirs) * cards: Add Ancient French card deck * https://deb.li/H2kG
[13:58] <KGB-0> aisleriot upstream/latest af6592d Christian Persch (5 files in 3 dirs) * cards: Add Simplistic card deck * https://deb.li/3ScqM
[13:58] <KGB-0> aisleriot upstream/latest 0a44839 Christian Persch cards/meson.build src/window.c cards/README.anglo_modern cards/anglo_modern.svg * cards: Add Anglo Modern card deck * https://deb.li/NFZy
[13:58] <KGB-2> aisleriot pristine-tar 481dd1f Jeremy Bicha aisleriot_3.22.23.orig.tar.bz2.delta aisleriot_3.22.23.orig.tar.bz2.id * pristine-tar data for aisleriot_3.22.23.orig.tar.bz2 * https://deb.li/3hBi0
[13:58] <jbicha> seb128: could you add a bug subscriber to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/guile-3.0 ? we're switching aisleriot to build with that instead of guile-2.2
[13:58] <KGB-0> aisleriot upstream/latest 849e100 Christian Persch cards/meson.build src/window.c cards/README.Атласные cards/Атласные.svg * cards: Add Атласные (Atlasnye) card deck * https://deb.li/igVN4
[13:58] <KGB-0> aisleriot upstream/latest 3e66914 Christian Persch cards/meson.build src/window.c cards/README.atlasnye cards/atlasnye.svg * cards: Add Atlasnye (International) card deck * https://deb.li/2FIe
[15:04] <jbicha> seb128: also a bug subscriber for libsoup3 & wireplumber
[15:10] <KGB-2> gnome-terminal tags 4ae3c98 Jeremy Bicha upstream/3.44.1 * Upstream version 3.44.1 * https://deb.li/3lcee
[15:16] <KGB-2> libadwaita tags 86bb251 Jeremy Bicha upstream/1.1.2 * Upstream version 1.1.2 * https://deb.li/3PFWG
[15:16] <KGB-2> libadwaita pipeline Jeremy Bicha 385523 * pending (extract-source: pending; build: created; build i386: created; build source: created; test-build-any: created; test-build-all: created; test-crossbuild-arm64: created; reprotest: created; lintian: created; autopkgtest: created; blhc: created; piuparts: created)
[15:16] <KGB-0> libadwaita pipeline Jeremy Bicha 385523 * running (extract-source: running; build: created; build i386: created; build source: created; test-build-any: created; test-build-all: created; test-crossbuild-arm64: created; reprotest: created; lintian: created; autopkgtest: created; blhc: created; piuparts: created)
[15:16] <KGB-0> evolution signed tags b88a462 Jeremy Bicha ubuntu/3.44.2-0ubuntu1 * evolution Debian release 3.44.2-0ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/3OPry
[15:17] <KGB-0> evolution ubuntu/jammy 8a08421 Jeremy Bicha * pushed 25 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/zWwG
[15:17] <KGB-0> evolution ubuntu/jammy ce50444 Milan Crha src/modules/webkit-editor/e-webkit-editor.c * EWebKitEditor: Mode change not propagated into the Editor widget * https://deb.li/DhPM
[15:17] <KGB-0> evolution ubuntu/jammy bf0ba51 Milan Crha data/webkit/e-editor.js * I#1871 - WebKitEditor: Convert to plain text incorrect on reply/forward open * https://deb.li/3vqYM
[15:17] <KGB-0> evolution ubuntu/jammy b6dc799 Milan Crha src/modules/cal-config-weather/e-weather-location-entry.c * I#1891 - Fails to build with libgweather 3.36 * https://deb.li/hq61
[15:17] <KGB-0> evolution ubuntu/jammy d739458 Milan Crha src/e-util/e-html-editor-link-dialog.c * I#1896 - Composer: Ensure URL entry is focused in Link Properties * https://deb.li/3SgfN
[15:17] <KGB-0> evolution ubuntu/jammy 7462aaf Milan Crha src/ (7 files in 4 dirs) * I#1895 - Misc: Handle numpad Enter similarly as the Enter key * https://deb.li/oytV
[15:35] <seb128> jbicha, subscribed
[15:42] <diddledani> oSoMoN: were you involved in lto-ifying firefox? I'm wondering if there's a known issue with doing lto on armhf, cos I'm having to disable it on the gimp snap specifically only for armhf
[15:44] <oSoMoN> diddledani, yes indeed, and I enabled it for amd64 only, because linking firefox with gold was failing on armhf
[15:44] <oSoMoN> that's something that needs to be investigated further, but I couldn't spare the time
[15:44] <diddledani> I'm getting ok builds on arm64 at least, so I think it is not "all arm"
[15:45] <oSoMoN> yeah, IIRC LTO was working on arm64, but it took an awful amount of time to build
[15:46] <diddledani> big app problems ;-)
[16:18] <diddledani> looks like gimp can successfully build with _some_ lto in armhf, but not everything... I needed to disable it on babl, gegl, libaom, and libheif. everything else has succeeded in compiling with LTO enabled
[16:19] <diddledani> I think babl and gegl had inline assembly which was throwing it, and that might be the same issue what libaom and libheif have, too, but I haven't looked into the latter two too much
[17:49] <RikMills> jbicha: https://i.imgur.com/L5VFZO8.png
[17:50] <RikMills> your wireplumber conflicts on pipewire-media-session don't seem sufficient to cope with upgrades
[17:54] <RikMills> or at least if it works, that is damb ugly
[17:57] <RikMills> oh sigh https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=997818
[18:05] <RikMills> normal and untouched since February
[18:06]  * RikMills rolls eyes
[18:25] <jbicha> RikMills: are y'all looking at switching to PipeWire too?
[18:26] <diddledani> jbicha: I believe we're looking at switching for kinetic (22.10)
[18:27] <diddledani> that was for RikMills too :-)
[18:27] <jbicha> yeah, I was asking specifically about Kubuntu, or if there are any other flavors RikMills is involved with
[18:27] <diddledani> gotcha :-)
[18:28] <diddledani> it'ld be good to get both ubuntu and kubuntu using pipewire
[18:28] <diddledani> I suspect the others will lag a bit further behind
[18:36] <RikMills> jbicha: I just did the switch in kubuntu-meta. a lot of KDE users want it
[18:37] <diddledani> 🥳
[18:38] <jbicha> RikMills: how much cooperation do you have with Debian these days? I'm going to be discussing with Debian about switching the default for GNOME. The desires & consequences for other desktops interests me.
[18:39] <RikMills> jbicha: not as much as I should. moslty I keep to speaking to the qt-kde team
[18:40] <jbicha> please let me know if you hear about whether Debian KDE is talking about switching to PipeWire
[18:40] <RikMills> will do!
[18:41] <RikMills> on flavours, I see from the seeds vcs that ubuntu-budgie and ubuntu-mate have commits to there to switch at least
[18:41] <RikMills> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-mate.kinetic/revision/348
[18:42] <RikMills> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntubudgie-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-budgie.kinetic/revision/2341
[18:49] <jbicha> I'm not working on the wireplumber conflicts issue now but I did file bug 1977564 for it in case someone else wants to
[18:55]  * RikMills subscribes
[18:56] <jbicha> I'm still using jammy personally for probably a couple more weeks
[18:59] <KGB-0> gvfs signed tags 55d1bea Jeremy Bicha ubuntu/1.48.2-0ubuntu1 * gvfs Debian release 1.48.2-0ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/HFNR
[18:59] <KGB-0> gvfs upstream/latest b15e1eb Jeremy Bicha * pushed 6 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/Nbxz
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[19:04] <RikMills> I'll add some comments to the bug over the weekend if I can
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