[04:17] <apokryphos> Amaranth: thought you might find this interesting http://blogs.qtdeveloper.net/archives/2005/08/03/some-basic-thoughts-about-kde-4/  -- mentions some of the things I remember you arguing
[04:17] <reka> anyone know of a video player/editor that can play/rewind frame-by-frame?
[04:17] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, is it the bottom two or the ones right under the thing that said uncomment these to add software from the universe
[04:17] <_SWAT_> PurpleMotion, thnx, I'll take a look at it
[04:18] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, nfi?
[04:18] <reka> sort of like quicktime player's capability
[04:19] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, its not in the wikipedia lol
[04:19] <_SWAT_> PurpleMotion, seems kinda new. Do you maybe know of a more mature program?
[04:19] <black13> i have have problems with xorg because my usr directory is readonly
[04:19] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: it's in AddingMultimediaRepositories
[04:19] <PurpleMotion> _SWAT_:  not really, but i have it, and it runs pretty well
[04:20] <_SWAT_> PurpleMotion, can you check for the mp3 thing? (by any chance?)
[04:21] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, ok, now what?  do the gpm thing?
[04:21] <PurpleMotion> it doesnt open mp3's.. it's more of a sequencer/loop editor... it actually works a LOT like fruity loops, if you're familiar with that
[04:21] <PurpleMotion> and to date, its VERY stable
[04:21] <reka> black13: what sort of problems?
[04:22] <Joose^> hi again..
[04:22] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: yeah
[04:22] <HrdwrBoB> check the manual
[04:22] <HrdwrBoB> and do some trial and error with different drivers etc
[04:22] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, hmm, it didnt work
[04:22] <luminerd> did the same thing
[04:23] <HrdwrBoB> the same thing?
[04:23] <luminerd> do I have to update the aptitude database or something liek that first?
[04:23] <tha_gamemaster> would it be difficult to set up ubuntu-server as port-restrictive firewall?
[04:23] <Joose^> it's this okay? sudo patch -p0 < /directorio/del/parche/patch-intel-537ep-kernel2610-<IP_ADDRESS>-20050423.diff
[04:23] <luminerd> sudo aptitude install gpm
[04:23] <Joose^> it's this okay? make clean patch -p0 < /directorio/del/parche/patch-intel-537ep-kernel2610-<IP_ADDRESS>-20050423.diff
[04:23] <black13> reka  Cannot open "compiled/server-0.xkm" to write keyboard description:
[04:23] <_SWAT_> PurpleMotion, nice
[04:24] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, I already did this man
[04:24] <HrdwrBoB> oh
[04:24] <luminerd> I spent 5 hours changing around the xorg.conf
[04:24] <Goodspeed> how do i remove wine and limewire
[04:24] <HrdwrBoB> sudo apt-get update
[04:24] <reka> black13: what are you trying to do/what caused it?
[04:24] <Goodspeed> they arent on synaptic
[04:24] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: it may be a kernel problem
[04:24] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: this is why I was asking for dmesg output
[04:24] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: I can aldso recommend you get an email with all of this information
[04:25] <HrdwrBoB> and post it to the forums and the mailing list
[04:25] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, ok I can get it to you but how do I copy and paste without my mouse?
[04:25] <HrdwrBoB> because it's a more involved process
[04:25] <Joose^> it's this okay? make clean patch -p0 < /directorio/del/parche/patch-intel-537ep-kernel2610-<IP_ADDRESS>-20050423.diff
[04:25] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: use ssh
[04:25] <_SWAT_> PurpleMotion, take a look at this :D    http://glame.sourceforge.net/index.var
[04:25] <HrdwrBoB> ssh to that machine from yours
[04:25] <HrdwrBoB> run dmesg
[04:25] <HrdwrBoB> then c/p
[04:25] <Total> hey guys how do you get an application through root terminal
[04:25] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, ...how man!
[04:25] <black13> reka i have build a live cd the usr directory is mount read only ... the file system is squashfs
[04:25] <luminerd> I dont know its ip
[04:25] <Goodspeed> how do i get rid of osmething thats not in synaptic
[04:25] <luminerd> and how to do that
[04:26] <luminerd> I'm completely lost at it
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: 1) install ssh
[04:26] <reka> Total: define 'get'
[04:26] <Total> apt get
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> 2) on your machine run ssh user@remoteip
[04:26] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, already got it
[04:26] <Total> how do you type it
[04:26] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, usr@remoteip?
[04:26] <ateoh211> hello, would anyone be willing to help me to troubleshoot wvdial?
[04:26] <PurpleMotion> oh look, it's soundforge for linux
[04:26] <tha_gamemaster> Total, apt-get install packagename
[04:26] <reka> Total: don't use the root terminal...use normal and then type sudo apt-get <whatever>
[04:26] <benplaut> !lart Dave_Orton
[04:26] <PurpleMotion> now all they need to do is clone acid pro and im a happy musician again
[04:26] <benplaut> thanks, ubotu
[04:26] <ateoh211> apt-cache search filename
[04:27] <luminerd> how do I get the remoteip, HrdwrBoB ?
[04:27] <black13> reka http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=1155&tstart=0
[04:27] <Joose^> i need help to install intel537ep
[04:27] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: you said you knew its IP
[04:27] <luminerd> luminerd HrdwrBoB, ...how man!
[04:27] <luminerd> luminerd I dont know its ip
[04:27] <yo2k> hi guys...
[04:27] <Goodspeed> do i use apt-get remove to remove packages that arent in synaptic???
[04:28] <ateoh211> I run setup for the modem and put a username a pword in for my isp...
[04:28] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: run ifconfig it will tell you
[04:28] <shammy>  I have my drivers installed, but when i try sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, i get an error saying cannot insert ndiswrapper, operation not permitted. Why would that be?
[04:28] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, which one is it?
[04:28] <yo2k> how i know the hostname in my local network, if i know the ip addr ?
[04:28] <black13> reka this give a run down of bug basically /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkbd/compiled cant be written to
[04:28] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: eth0
[04:28] <HrdwrBoB> yo2k: run host ip
[04:28] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, which one there?
[04:28] <yo2k> HrdwrBoB, thank's...
[04:28] <ateoh211> sometime it hangs after -->Modem initialized   -->Please enter password(or empy password to stop):
[04:29] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: the one that says inet: addr
[04:29] <HrdwrBoB> inet addr:
[04:29] <luminerd> luminerd@darkstar:~$ ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:29] <luminerd> ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection refused
[04:29] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[04:29] <HrdwrBoB> this is why I said to get ssh
[04:29] <Joose^> and a guide says this sudo patch -p0 < /directorio/del/parche/patch-intel-537ep-kernel2610-<IP_ADDRESS>-20050423.diff i do that, but now says than apply this commands make clean, sudo make 537, make install , how i use those commands, i mean.. how
[04:29] <tha_gamemaster> luminerd, did you start the ssh daemon?
[04:29] <luminerd> tha_gamemaster, no clue
[04:29] <reka> black13: not really sure sorry.....but would a chmod be appropriate?
[04:29] <HrdwrBoB> sudo apt-get install ssh
[04:29] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, oh, wait, the machine I'm SSHing to needs ssh?!
[04:30] <HrdwrBoB> please read what I type
[04:30] <HrdwrBoB> I'm not doing it for my own amusement
[04:30] <ateoh211> We are trying to start a community program, ubuntu on donated systems for those who can't afford.
[04:30] <tha_gamemaster> luminerd, the pc you are trying to connect to needs to have ssh installed
[04:30] <ateoh211> but I'm having a heck of a time with this modem
[04:30] <black13> reka no unfortunately squashfs is a readonly file system
[04:30] <luminerd> ah hah!
[04:30] <luminerd> that's my prob lol
[04:30] <Joose^> and a guide says this sudo patch -p0 < /directorio/del/parche/patch-intel-537ep-kernel2610-<IP_ADDRESS>-20050423.diff i do that, but now says than apply this commands make clean, sudo make 537, make install , how i use those commands, i mean.. how
[04:30] <ateoh211> does anyone do dial up anymore?
[04:30] <HrdwrBoB> ateoh211: not really
[04:30] <reka> ateoh211: heaps
[04:30] <HrdwrBoB> ateoh211: the only thing I do with dialup is migrate people away from it
[04:31] <black13> reka etc var root are use the tmpfs file system
[04:31] <HrdwrBoB> reka: DSL is cheaper
[04:31] <nickrud> lol, HrdwrBoB I just drop in and you say
[04:31] <nickrud> 'migrate'
[04:31] <PurpleMotion> _SWAT_:  checking out glame now..
[04:31] <ateoh211> HrdwrBoB: what if your on the road with a laptop, or what if your trying to provide an underprivleged person with internet?
[04:31] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, http://pastebin.com/329676
[04:31] <Madpilot> is the default audio CD player going to be changed for Breezy? My copy hangs with every d*mn CD I try and use it with...
[04:31] <PurpleMotion> twas already in universe
[04:32] <HrdwrBoB> ateoh211: then I'll use dialup or a local wireless provider
[04:32] <reka> black13: yeah, sorry, i'm not much of an expert with what you're doing
[04:32] <HrdwrBoB> but my point is more it's not really of interest to most people
[04:32] <HrdwrBoB> so it's not really recieving the attention it perhaps needs
[04:32] <ateoh211> HrdwrBoB: cool, so anychance you or anyone here could give me some tips troubleshooting a wvdial
[04:32] <ateoh211> ..setup?
[04:33] <Goodspeed> how do i get rid of wine?!
[04:33] <ateoh211> Goodspeed: drink it
[04:33] <nickrud> ateoh211, use pppconfig, not wvdial
[04:33] <ateoh211> ;)
[04:33] <black13> reka well sometimes just chatting with someone cause you to have to focus your thoughts ...
[04:33] <Vubuntu> hey all. How do I add a splash screen in gnome?
[04:34] <benplaut> Vubuntu: "sudo apt-get install gtweakui"
[04:34] <reka> black13: well, hoped it helped. lol :)
[04:34] <benplaut> !splashscreen
[04:34] <ubotu> benplaut: Bugger all, i dunno
[04:34] <benplaut> hmm
[04:34] <Vubuntu> benplaut, cool thanks
[04:34] <benplaut> we'll have to do something about that...
[04:34] <spanglesontoast> bored installing vmware.
[04:34] <HrdwrBoB> benplaut: nautilus with ~ as desktop is love
[04:35] <Goodspeed> how do you delete directories?
[04:35] <Madpilot> Goodspeed: highlight in Nautilus & hit the Delete key usually works
[04:35] <Goodspeed> i dont have permission
[04:35] <benplaut> ubotu splashscreen is to change your splashscreen via a GUI, "sudo apt-get install gtweakui", or install "gtweakui" from Synaptic (make sure you have universe !repos enabled)
[04:35] <ubotu> okay, benplaut
[04:36] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: that's not the whole of dmesg
[04:36] <benplaut> !splashscreen
[04:36] <ubotu> from memory, splashscreen is to change your splashscreen via a GUI, "sudo apt-get install gtweakui", or install "gtweakui" from Synaptic (make sure you have universe !repos enabled)
[04:36] <reka> Goodspeed: where are the directories?
[04:36] <benplaut> !thanks
[04:36] <ubotu> no worries, benplaut
[04:36] <Madpilot> benplaut: you can /msg the bot to train it
[04:36] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, you want it all?
[04:36] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[04:36] <benplaut> true
[04:36] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, that will take forever :(
[04:36] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: why?
[04:36] <Goodspeed> they're hidden ones in my home
[04:36] <benplaut> HrdwrBoB: what is ~?
[04:36] <Goodspeed> .wine
[04:36] <_SWAT_> PurpleMotion, I'm off c ya
[04:36] <HrdwrBoB> benplaut: home directory
[04:36] <Goodspeed> no... im not trying to delete my usr direcotry
[04:36] <Goodspeed> ...yet
[04:37] <benplaut> ahh
[04:37] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: try ssh user@remote dmesg > /tmp/dmesg.txt
[04:37] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, because I have no way of highlighting it all
[04:37] <spanglesontoast> i've been trying to get cedega to work with swat 3
[04:37] <benplaut> oh, i forgot to do that screenshot :/
[04:37] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: then open dmesg.txt
[04:37] <reka> HrdwrBoB: can you recommend a good au DSL provider?
[04:37] <HrdwrBoB> select all, paste
[04:37] <benplaut> reka: verizon
[04:37] <HrdwrBoB> reka: broadbandchoice.com.au
[04:37] <HrdwrBoB> benplaut: ... AU
[04:37] <reka> HrdwrBoB: cheers
[04:37] <benplaut> AU?
[04:38] <HrdwrBoB> reka: no worries
[04:38] <benplaut> oh
[04:38] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, there's no /tmp/dmesg.txt?
[04:38] <benplaut> australia
[04:38] <HrdwrBoB> benplaut: it's one of those plases not in the US
[04:38] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, oooh
[04:38] <b0xen> Is there anywhere I can find a complete list of the software I can install with apt-get?
[04:38] <luminerd> I got it, sorry
[04:38] <b0xen> Or some way to look up the name of the package?
[04:38] <HrdwrBoB> b0xen: apt-cache search foo
[04:38] <benplaut> b0xen: it's about 16,000 items long
[04:38] <b0xen> so i know what it is i want to apt get
[04:38] <skalpel> root_____: you should not irc as root, it is unsafe. i would recommend you close yoru client and login under a different name
[04:38] <HrdwrBoB> b0xen: or run synaptic
[04:38] <palandia> hi there
[04:38] <benplaut> b0xn: yeah
[04:38] <b0xen> does search foo give descriptions?
[04:38] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[04:39] <b0xen> can I apt-get synaptic? or is it installed by default
[04:39] <HrdwrBoB> installed by default
[04:39] <b0xen> cool
[04:39] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, no idea how to select all though still
[04:39] <benplaut> it's installed by default
[04:39] <palandia> i have installed hoary from iso but my Xserver doesnt start can anybody help me please
[04:39] <benplaut> gksudo synaptic
[04:39] <shammy> When i use su, and enter my pass I get an authentification failed, but when i try sudo anything and enter the pass it works, what is this?
[04:39] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: open it in gedit, select all?
[04:39] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, well I did emacs but ok
[04:39] <benplaut> ubotu tell palandia about xserver
[04:39] <HrdwrBoB> shammy: because su doesn't work
[04:39] <Vubuntu> brb trying out my splash screen
[04:39] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, gedit's not on there?
[04:39] <HrdwrBoB> shammy: because root does not have a password
[04:40] <shammy> HrdwrBoB: Oh, ok
[04:40] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: gedit is installed with ubuntu-desktop
[04:40] <luminerd> umm
[04:40] <HrdwrBoB> and this is on YOUR machine
[04:40] <luminerd> well the command 'gedit' doesn't work :/
[04:40] <benplaut> ubotu tell shammy about sudo
[04:41] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, thanks for the help
[04:41] <palandia> gregg_ told me about a via driver in hoary for xorg, but when i dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i connot select via driver i does not appear as an option
[04:41] <luminerd> I gotta go
[04:41] <luminerd> ttyl
[04:41] <benplaut> bye
[04:41] <palandia> my chipset is VIA/S3 Unichrome Graphics
[04:41] <direwolf> ha
[04:41] <palandia> hello????
[04:41] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:41] <rgould> How do I get the nofitication panel to refresh? I have gaim minimized there, and I refreshed gnome-panel and now it has vanished =\
[04:42] <direwolf> on right desktop?
[04:42] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: then search for the 'Device' section
[04:42] <benplaut> rgould: it's running in the notification panel, so it'll close when you killall gnome-panel
[04:42] <HrdwrBoB> change the driver to via
[04:42] <ateoh211> nickrud: thanks, that got me closer, I'm actually getting a handshake, but can't tell why it fails
[04:42] <rgould> oh! doh. they aren't actually running :) thanks benplaut
[04:43] <ateoh211> nickrud: my username and password are definitely correct
[04:43] <palandia> ok
[04:43] <palandia> i have changed from vesa to via in driver in DEvice
[04:43] <palandia> but...Failed to load module "via"
[04:43] <direwolf> if you x'd out your buddy list i dont think you can get it back up without restarting gaim
[04:43] <shammy> HrdwrBoB: I'm having a problem with ndiswrapper, when i try sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, i get an operation not permitted error, so thats why i tried su, would this mean i need to enable the root account?
[04:43] <HrdwrBoB> shammy: no
[04:44] <HrdwrBoB> shammy: what that means is the module failed to work
[04:44] <ateoh211> anyone have any trouble shooting tips for dial up?
[04:44] <shammy> HrdwrBoB: why would that be?
[04:44] <ateoh211> I'm getting a handshake but no connect
[04:44] <HrdwrBoB> shammy: have you configured it?
[04:44] <palandia> HrdweBoB: got it?
[04:44] <HrdwrBoB> ateoh211: could be the ISP?
[04:44] <direwolf> does isp support linux ?
[04:44] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: ?
[04:44] <rgould> Hmm. Actually it was only gaim that shut down when gnome-panel was refreshed. amaroK is still happily running, but I cannot open the main window.
[04:44] <HrdwrBoB> direwolf: doesn't matter
[04:45] <palandia> HrdweBoB: i have changed from vesa to via in driver in DEvice section and X says FAILED TO LOAD module "via"
[04:45] <palandia> HrdweBoB: any idea?
[04:45] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: then there isn't a via driver :)
[04:45] <benplaut> rgould: sometimes a program will have a daemon that keeps it alive
[04:45] <shammy> HrdwrBoB: Uh, I guess not since I don't know what configuring there would be to do. I've installed the package, then installed the driver with ndiswrapper -i filename.inf, what else do i need to do?
[04:45] <ateoh211> HrdwrBoB: doubtfull, it's a major University and no reports on their stat pages(or in my e-mails, I'm employed and a sysadmin there)
[04:45] <palandia> HrdweBoB: but vesa should works with VIA/S3 Unichrome right?
[04:46] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: vesa should work with everything
[04:46] <direwolf> ive seen dialups that need some windows program to connect ..granted they were shady type deals but nonetheless
[04:46] <HrdwrBoB> shammy: that should do it
[04:46] <palandia> HrdweBoB: where ca i paste my Xorg. log?
[04:46] <ateoh211> is there a good log to read for pon or a way to recieve some verbos output?
[04:46] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: pastebin.com
[04:46] <palandia> HrdweBoB: for you to see it
[04:46] <benplaut> ubotu tell palandia bout pastebin
[04:46] <Tribune> hi
[04:47] <benplaut> ubotu tell palandia aout pastebin
[04:47] <Tribune> how can i get Koffice application?
[04:47] <nickrud> ateoh211, sorry, just dropped back in
[04:47] <benplaut> tribune: i'd assume "sudo apt-get install koffice"
[04:48] <shammy> HrdwrBoB: I had this error before, so I reinstalled ubuntu altogether, because i had been a little sloppy since i had no idea what i was doing, but the second time everything went fine, and ndiswrapper worked, but when i tryed logging back in I got an error saying it was a bad instal, so i reinstalled it and i'm back to the same error. Why would the operation not be permitted?
[04:48] <Tribune> Reading package lists... Done
[04:48] <Tribune> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:48] <Tribune> Package koffice is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:48] <Tribune> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:48] <Tribune> is only available from another source
[04:48] <direwolf> sudo
[04:48] <Tribune> E: Package koffice has no installation candidate
[04:48] <nickrud> ateoh211, try this: start a gnome-terminal, and execute tail -f /var/log/syslog
[04:48] <Tribune> i can't
[04:49] <nickrud> ateoh211, then, in another gnome terminal, try pon. There may be some useful messages on the other terminal
[04:50] <ateoh211> nickrud: ok, LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests, connection terminated, receive seril link is not 8-bit clean: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0
[04:50] <Tribune> ?
[04:50] <palandia> HrdweBoB: can you see my post at pastebin.com please
[04:50] <tigliona1bit> Tribune: you need to add the Universe repository
[04:50] <tigliona1bit> Tribune: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:50] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: paste the url to it and I will :)
[04:50] <nickrud> ateoh211, I have _never_ seen anything like that, so, maybe direwolf has some pointers
[04:51] <palandia> HrdweBoB: got it?
[04:51] <juancho> hello
[04:51] <ateoh211> direwolf: pointers for ppp by anychance?
[04:51] <HrdwrBoB> no
[04:51] <direwolf> sorry, i dont
[04:51] <HrdwrBoB> paste it here
[04:51] <HrdwrBoB> (the url)
[04:51] <Tribune> tiglionalhit. thanks... i'm using Kubuntu
[04:52] <Tribune> is it the same process?
[04:52] <ateoh211> nickrud: should I be able to see my password in the clear in the logs, I don't, but I'm just curious if that's the problem
[04:52] <Goodspeed> how do i remove wine... its not in synaptic and its not in add or remove
[04:52] <Tribune> I'm still new in kubuntu actually
[04:52] <palandia> HrdweBoB: pastebin.com fisrt link :S
[04:52] <nickrud> ateoh211, maybe, paste the total errors to pastebin, I may recognize something :)
[04:52] <palandia> HrdweBoB: its ok?
[04:52] <tigliona1bit> Tribune: yes, same
[04:52] <Tribune> k
[04:52] <tigliona1bit> I think
[04:52] <Tribune> i'll check now
[04:52] <tigliona1bit> I'm not sure =P
[04:52] <Tribune> hahaha
[04:52] <Tribune> :))
[04:52] <tigliona1bit> shouldn't be too hard though
[04:53] <PurpleMotion> what the hell is oberon?
[04:53] <ateoh211> Goodspeed: apt-get remove wine ?
[04:53] <PurpleMotion> and who stuck me on this 'future of kde' page?
[04:53] <direwolf> question for the room ...which do you think is more user-friendly .. xfce or fluxbox :)
[04:53] <Tribune> brb
[04:53] <direwolf> heh
[04:53] <nickrud> ateoh211, I've diagnosed dialup errrors since 300kbs
[04:53] <ateoh211> Goodspeed: then maybe a dpkg --purge wine for good measure
[04:54] <direwolf> nickrud, my condolences
[04:54] <Goodspeed> it says wine isnt installed
[04:54] <palandia> HrdweBoB: got my post? at pastebin?
[04:54] <nickrud> direwolf, I just started early ;P
[04:54] <tigliona1bit> direwolf: if you're comparing the versions on APT, the fluxbox it installs is quite crippled to start off with, so definately XFCE
[04:54] <flowin> i tried both xfce and fluxbox
[04:54] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: you haven't pasted the url.
[04:54] <flowin> i liked fluxbox better
[04:54] <HrdwrBoB> oh
[04:54] <HrdwrBoB> .. I'll look
[04:54] <goldfish> flux > *
[04:54] <flowin> but it required more time to configure
[04:54] <PurpleMotion> be VERY careful when using purge with low-level package management applications
[04:54] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: but basically, the easier you make it for me
[04:54] <ateoh211> nickrud: i'm wondering if maybe I need our vpn client
[04:54] <HrdwrBoB> the more I can do for you
[04:55] <PurpleMotion> ive seen people FUBAR their systems using the purge option
[04:55] <palandia> HrdweBoB: i am at lynx text version so hwo can i know my paste url?
[04:55] <direwolf> non-apt
[04:55] <Goodspeed> how do i remove limewire if its not on add remove or synaptic
[04:55] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: hrm
[04:55] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: have you tried the 's3' driveR?
[04:56] <nickrud> ateoh211, not if it is just 'get my machine talking to another machine that will be my gateway'. But, corporate stuff cancels all normality.
[04:56] <b0xen> I'm getting a birthday present from the Ubuntu Foundation in october :)
[04:56] <palandia> HrdweBoB: saw my post?....i have not tried s3 driver
[04:57] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[04:57] <HrdwrBoB> it doesn't work :)
[04:57] <jmspeex> Any clue as to why the fonts in gv look bad?
[04:57] <palandia> HrdweBoB: vesa does not weork see that in the pasted text?
[04:57] <flowin> theres an anti-aliasing option in gv
[04:57] <HrdwrBoB> palandia: yes
[04:58] <phixion> anyone know of a repository with the latest tcl in? :E
[04:58] <yossnet81> "the greeter program appears to be crashing attempting to use a different one". in addition, weird colors are coming up on my VT's in random places
[04:58] <yossnet81> i am having trouble with breezy. my xserver is broken.  when it loads , gdm looks all funky (can't see anything) except a window on top that says the above
[04:58] <tha_gamemaster> is hpfs+ write support still "experimental" ?
[04:58] <yossnet81> any suggestions
[04:58] <Madpilot> phixion: do you have all repos enabled? Universe/Multiverse?
[04:59] <goldfish> yossnet81: read topic...
[04:59] <phixion> yes Madpilot :D
[04:59] <flowin> im using breezy now
[04:59] <flowin> seems ok
[04:59] <jmspeex> I guess I should say that gs is producing worse results (for screen display) than I've been used to.
[04:59] <jmspeex> i.e. gv, ggv and gnome-gv are affected
[04:59] <nickrud> flowin, how's your ctl-alt-f1?
[04:59] <F0ckF3ar22> Hey guys
[04:59] <yossnet81> goldfish- yeah, but my problems are nothing like anyone elses....
[05:00] <cookiemnstr> how do i setup dial-up on ubuntu
[05:00] <flowin> what does ctl-alt-f1 do
[05:00] <F0ckF3ar22> I have a sony vaio currently running a crappy debian (Sarge) im trying to install ubuntu.. i have the ubuntu cd's the only thing is for some reason i cant load the cd up.. im using an external cd rom drive
[05:00] <flowin> nickrud, doesnt seem to have any effect..
[05:01] <nickrud> flowin, that's one problem with breezy right now.  But, congrats for getting that far :)\
[05:01] <Tremblay> Could someone suggest a way to have two Ubuntu laptops see each other on the same network? NFS requires one computer to act as a server, right?
[05:01] <flowin> ic.,
[05:01] <tha_gamemaster> Tremblay, i still use ftp but i'm "out of date"
[05:02] <avanspronsen> Tremblay, what do you want to do? copy files?
[05:02] <flowin> had some problems.. but just dist-upgraded.. and it worked magically
[05:02] <Tremblay> avanspronsen, copy files, mostly.
[05:02] <F0ckF3ar22> oh i must be talking to mhy self
[05:02] <F0ckF3ar22> I have a sony vaio currently running a crappy debian (Sarge) im trying to install ubuntu.. i have the ubuntu cd's the only thing is for some reason i cant load the cd up.. im using an external cd rom drive
[05:02] <avanspronsen> tremblay ssh?
[05:02] <flowin> F0ckF3ar22, try changing the boot order
[05:02] <Tremblay> Hm, does SSH have a GUI?
[05:02] <Madeye> i'm out
[05:03] <nickrud> F0ckF3ar22, again?
[05:03] <avanspronsen> you can select Places|Connect to Server and then slect SSH
[05:03] <cookiemnstr> how do i setup dial-up on ubuntu?
[05:04] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, pppconfig is the canonical way to get dialup
[05:04] <F0ckF3ar22> flowin i tried
[05:04] <flowin> why dont u try apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:04] <flowin> and change ur repo
[05:04] <flowin> ?
[05:04] <Tremblay> avanspronsen, do I have to setup something before hand?
[05:04] <phixion> can anyone help? whats this trying to tell me? - ./eggdrop: error while loading shared libraries: libtcl8.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | make: *** [install-start]  Error 127
[05:05] <^thehatsrule^> phixion: you need tcl installed
[05:05] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, Applications->Terminal, then type sudo pppconfig, and enter your password if needed
[05:05] <phixion> I have it installed :o
[05:05] <phixion> how can i see if its running?
[05:05] <avanspronsen> Tremblay: sudo apt-get ssh from a terminal
[05:06] <cookiemnstr> ok i did that nickrud
[05:06] <avanspronsen> sorry, sudo apt-get install ssh
[05:06] <^thehatsrule^> its the runtime libraries you need phixion, perhaps open the makefile to config it
[05:06] <goldfish> eh
[05:06] <cookiemnstr> what do i do to start the dial-up
[05:06] <^thehatsrule^> to show where it is?
[05:06] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, so, were you able to enter your username and passord for your isp properly?
[05:06] <phixion> ^thehatsrule^, how do i open it? :)
[05:06] <cookiemnstr> yes i was
[05:06] <^thehatsrule^> its a text file
[05:07] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, then.
[05:07] <Tremblay> avanspronsen, to your knowledge, will both computers be able to act as client and server without reboots or other configs?
[05:07] <cookiemnstr> yeah
[05:07] <avanspronsen> Tremblay: correct
[05:07] <phixion> ^thehatsrule^, the make file for the eggdrop?
[05:07] <cookiemnstr> whats next nickrud
[05:07] <^thehatsrule^> yes, maybe you have to specify the tcl paths?
[05:08] <cafuego> phixion: 'apt-get install eggdrop' will pull in all required libraries, as well as install the actual pos.
[05:08] <nickrud> two commands (pon, and poff) should start and stop your internet. I usually just hit <alt>f2 (the gnome run dialog) and did pon and poff as needed
[05:08] <cookiemnstr> ok
[05:08] <^thehatsrule^> bbl
[05:08] <phixion> thanks alot! :D
[05:08] <cookiemnstr> i typed pon it asked for my password
[05:08] <cookiemnstr> i used my dial up password and nothing happen
[05:08] <cookiemnstr> so i tried my log on passwprd and smae thing
[05:09] <shammy> 23:04:31]  -NickServ- please choose a different nick.
[05:09] <shammy> -
[05:09] <shammy> uh
[05:09] <shammy> disregard that
[05:09] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, then, let's try this: start a gnome-terminal (Applications->System Tools->Terminal) from the top menu
[05:10] <cookiemnstr> ok
[05:10] <paulproteus> shammy: Okay.
[05:10] <cookiemnstr> i am in windows now so i have to chance over to try
[05:11] <traveller> what iptables frontend would anyone recommend?
[05:11] <nickrud> Now, so we can see what's going on: right click the top panel, and add system monitor, if you don't already have it
[05:11] <cookiemnstr> so what do i type in the gnome-terminal
[05:11] <cookiemnstr> same thing
[05:11] <Tremblay> avanspronsen, sorry to bother, but how do I setup accounts in ssh?
[05:12] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, pon, to start, and poff, to stop the internet, as long as pppconfig questions were answered
[05:12] <cookiemnstr> ok thanks i will try that
[05:12] <cafuego> Tremblay: 'sudo adduser <username>'
[05:12] <Madpilot> traveller: Firestarter is easy to use
[05:12] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, sorry, I missed that you were in windows.
[05:12] <Tremblay> Thanks.
[05:12] <cookiemnstr> :)
[05:13] <palandia> HrdweBoB: with vesa i got FATAL IO Error 104 any idea? anybody?
[05:13] <palandia> HrdweBoB: with vesa i got FATAL IO Error 104 any idea? anybody?
[05:13] <palandia> anyone has VIA/S3 Unichrome with hoary runnig up?
[05:13] <palandia> anyone has VIA/S3 Unichrome with hoary runnig up?
[05:13] <phixion> cafuego, i did what you suggested and it install some stuff,  but still got the same error, in makefile it has the correct pathXREQS = /usr/local/lib/libtcl8.4.so' - any ideas? '
[05:13] <traveller> Madpilot: thanks, i'll give that a try
[05:13] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, first thing you want to do: discover if your modem is a 'winmodem'. If so, find out <exaclty> which one, and ask for help here again.
[05:13] <avanspronsen> Tremblay: you use the system accounts
[05:14] <avanspronsen> Tremblay: you will have at least one setup already on each machine
[05:14] <palandia> anyone has VIA/S3 Unichrome with hoary runnig up?
[05:15] <paulproteus> phixion: You don't need to compile eggdrop anymore.
[05:15] <phixion> oh
[05:15] <phixion> well, i did sudo apt-get install eggdrop
[05:15] <phixion> where does it put it? :)
[05:15] <paulproteus> /usr/bin/eggdrop is where that trash is, probably
[05:15] <phixion> ah ok thanks
[05:15] <phixion> i see u guys are fans of eggdrops
[05:15] <phixion> :E
[05:15] <nickrud> is ubotu an eggdrop?
[05:16] <cookiemnstr> my modem is a  dsi d-f-v v90 di3635
[05:16] <crimsun> it's a modified blootblot.
[05:16] <cookiemnstr> nickrud
[05:16] <crimsun> blootbot.
[05:16] <cookiemnstr> my modem is a  dsi d-f-v v90 di3635
[05:16] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, a sec, I'll see if there's some info on that one
[05:16] <cookiemnstr> ok
[05:16] <paulproteus> !blootbot
[05:17] <ubotu> rumour has it, blootbot is see ubotu.
[05:17] <paulproteus> !ubotu
[05:17] <ubotu> hmm... ubotu is uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add".
[05:17] <paulproteus> !add
[05:17] <ubotu> hmm... add is To add an item to me, type "ubotu <keyword> is <description description description>", without the carets
[05:17] <Tribune> quit thanks s
[05:17] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, still around?
[05:17] <Goodspeed> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:17] <Goodspeed>   wine: Conflicts: winesetuptk but 0.7-1.1 is to be installed
[05:17] <Goodspeed> how do i fix this??
[05:17] <palandia> !xserver
[05:17] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, xserver is to reconfigure your Xserver, type into a terminal "sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg" (without the "")
[05:17] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: sorry, lunch
[05:17] <palandia> !via
[05:17] <ubotu> palandia: Are you smoking crack?
[05:18] <palandia> ajaja
[05:18] <palandia> !vesa
[05:18] <ubotu> palandia: I give up, what is it?
[05:18] <palandia> !vesa
[05:18] <palandia> !help
[05:18] <luminerd> Hmm...why would I get this if I'm in Kubuntu?  Couldn't find package "ubuntu-desktop".  However, the following
[05:18] <luminerd> packages contain "ubuntu-desktop" in their name:  kubuntu-desktop
[05:18] <palandia> please somebody ehlp me
[05:18] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, ok, thanks
[05:19] <traveller> does firestarter stop the firewall when i exit it?
[05:19] <{linuxcraker] > palandia whats wrong?
[05:19] <crimsun> luminerd: do you have the main repository enabled?
[05:19] <palandia> asd
[05:19] <luminerd> crimsun, umm, universe/
[05:19] <luminerd> ?
[05:19] <crimsun> luminerd: no, main.
[05:19] <flowin> traveller, no.. firestarter is just the gui
[05:19] <avanspronsen> traveller: No it does not
[05:19] <{linuxcraker] > hm
[05:19] <luminerd> crimsun, how do I do so?
[05:20] <crimsun> luminerd: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:20] <palandia> {linuxcraker] : i have a VIA/S3 Unichrome graphics card and it doesnt works with X in hoary any idea?
[05:20] <cookiemnstr> find anything on my modem nickrud
[05:20] <{linuxcraker] > hold on.
[05:20] <Goodspeed> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:20] <Goodspeed>   wine: Conflicts: winesetuptk but 0.7-1.1 is to be installed
[05:20] <Goodspeed> can anyone help me with this?
[05:20] <luminerd> crimsun, do what?
[05:20] <palandia> {linuxcraker] : i have kernel for amd64 i helps?
[05:20] <Tremblay> avanspronsen, thanks, it's working. Is there a way I can restrict the access to /home/ only..?
[05:21] <traveller> so iptables and the firestarter rules would still continue to run even if firestarter is not?
[05:21] <xNinja> hello
[05:21] <xNinja> why ubuntu not debian ?
[05:21] <crimsun> luminerd: open a konsole and type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:21] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, all I find for that thing is garbage, I would hope you can find a cheap external :)\
[05:21] <cookiemnstr> lol
[05:21] <luminerd> crimsun, well I know that but edit it with what? sorry
[05:21] <avanspronsen> xNinja: regular release, great community, easy to use distro
[05:22] <yo2k> how i send a message to another user ?
[05:22] <shane> hey guys, whats my best bet for a program for setting up and burning dvds?
[05:22] <geppy> I've just installed Ubuntu Hoary onto a new hard drive, and my sound just isn't working.  Rhythmbox plays, but nothing comes out.  All relevant channels are unmuted, and I haven't had sound problems with this same onboard soundcard in the past.
[05:22] <cookiemnstr> finding a external modem here is very hard
[05:22] <{linuxcraker] > may not be compatible palandia.. are you sure the device driver is supported for linux?
[05:22] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, likewise, I had to compile a driver (first time in a couple of years) to use the winmodem I have now
[05:22] <yo2k> HrdwrBoB, how i send a message to another user ?
[05:22] <xNinja> avanspronsen much easier than debian ?
[05:23] <{linuxcraker] > ..
[05:23] <flowin> geppy,  install gstreamer codecs
[05:23] <palandia> {linuxcraker] : got it?
[05:23] <luminerd> crimsun, so what do I add?
[05:23] <rob_p> traveller:  Yes.    Unless you specifically have it remove them, they will stay intact.
[05:24] <crimsun> luminerd: you need a line containing main
[05:24] <geppy> flowin: I couldn't even hear gstreamer-properties's test stream.
[05:24] <{linuxcraker] > don't know.. maybe somthing went wrong during your installation of horray
[05:24] <{linuxcraker] > horay*
[05:24] <{linuxcraker] > hoary*
[05:24] <flowin> geppy, hmm try installing beep-media-player
[05:24] <avanspronsen> xNinja: The easiest to work with distro I have used
[05:25] <xNinja> avanspronsen all debian packages works with ubuntu ?
[05:25] <Vubuntu> xNinja, I like ubuntu better then debian because ubuntu come set up for the desktop user. Alot is configured for you already. I had to configure my sound in debian. Ubuntu already had it working
[05:25] <xNinja> lets say debian for servers ubuntu for desktops ?
[05:25] <Vubuntu> xNinja, That sounds about right
[05:25] <xNinja> i see
[05:26] <PurpleMotion> raven??
[05:26] <traveller> rob_p: thanks
[05:26] <xNinja> like mandriva and redhat enterprise
[05:26] <{linuxcraker] > i have a problem with xmms, it keeps freezing anyone know why?
[05:26] <crimsun> {linuxcraker] : is the output plugin set to esound?
[05:26] <{linuxcraker] > i don't know ill look
[05:26] <xNinja> i use ubuntu also and i like it :)
[05:26] <Vubuntu> xNinja, yea close to it. I feel ubuntu has more flexibility though then mandriva and redhat
[05:27] <xNinja> yeah sure with the apt-get :)
[05:27] <{linuxcraker] > no it wasn't but now it is
[05:27] <{linuxcraker] > will that fix it?
[05:27] <crimsun> try it.
[05:27] <Vubuntu> xNinja, :)
[05:27] <{linuxcraker] > haha your my hero dude
[05:27] <{linuxcraker] > it worked
[05:27] <{linuxcraker] > thank you
[05:28] <SysFail> has anybody gotten squashfs put into ubuntu kernel???
[05:28] <{linuxcraker] > nope
[05:28] <xNinja> :)
[05:28] <Vubuntu> SysFail, what is it?
[05:28] <SysFail> need it to do a live-cd
[05:28] <SysFail> its a compression
[05:28] <SysFail> but it has to be built into the kernel it seems
[05:29] <rob_p> traveller:  No problem.  By the way, in case you are interested in a firewall alternative that is designed to automatically load at boot time, and is designed for Ubuntu, you can get it here: http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/27/1/
[05:29] <xNinja> Vubuntu the configuration files same as debian? i am thinking to buy a debian book
[05:29] <{linuxcraker] > sysfail, is your bios screwed up? i had a problem with the live and it was somthing screwy in the BIOS
[05:29] <SysFail> all I wanna do is make a live-cd bosed off my ubuntu install
[05:29] <SysFail> based
[05:29] <{linuxcraker] > oh nvm then
[05:30] <traveller> rob_p: i'll check it out
[05:30] <SysFail> i think they used morphix for the ubuntu live-cd
[05:30] <SysFail> so there has to be a way to do this
[05:30] <voyage34> question: how can I remove a package from apt-get's list of packages to grab when I apt-get install something. I have a package that keeps erroring out when I apt-get . I dont want it but not sure how to remove it
[05:30] <voyage34> tia btw
[05:30] <SysFail> ouch
[05:31] <Vubuntu> xNinja, for now I have found they are similar except for the Xserver base install for stable Debian.
[05:31] <xNinja> Vubuntu so u suggest to by the book no big differents?
[05:31] <rob_p> traveller:    Let me know what you think.  It's been through several revs now and I believe it to be a good firewall solution for Ubuntu.
[05:32] <traveller> rob_p: the page doesn't seem to be loading
[05:33] <xNinja> i am thinking about Debian GNU /Linux 3.1 Bible (Bible) any suggestions ?
[05:33] <rob_p> traveller:  that's odd!  let me double-check the URL...
[05:33] <Vubuntu> xNinja, well I have worked with Debian and Ubuntu but I haven't gotten really deep into debian. So I can't really give you a good answer on that question. I do think Ubuntu is going to be changing alot in the future.
[05:33] <xNinja> i see
[05:34] <traveller> rob_p: i think it's firestarter, i stopped it and the page loads
[05:34] <Vubuntu> xNinja, you might be able to get a book on debian for cheap though :)
[05:34] <rob_p> traveller:  Ok... whew!  I was worried for a minute :)
[05:34] <xNinja> :)
[05:34] <Doonz> hey is anyone familiar with the real magic hollywood plus card?
[05:34] <voyage34> question: how can I remove a package from apt-get's list of packages to grab when I apt-get install something. I have a package that keeps erroring out when I apt-get . I dont want it but not sure how to remove it
[05:35] <Doonz> it has a tv out im wondering if i hook it up will i see my monitor on my tv
[05:35] <traveller> rob_p: it's odd that firestarter would block it
[05:35] <xNinja> infact i want to buy a books collection aiming for hacking/ethic
[05:35] <shane> would anyone know  a good program for burning and setting up dvds
[05:35] <Vubuntu> xNinja, like 5 or 10bucks used. So that way you won't be wasting you money if you find alot of different things about ubuntu.
[05:35] <rob_p> traveller:  Yeah, that is odd!
[05:36] <traveller> rob_p: it seems that the block was triggered by a traceroute from the server
[05:36] <xNinja> i want to go for hacking/security to be good in hacking to be more good in security
[05:36] <SysFail> shane: k3b
[05:36] <rob_p> traveller:  triggered by what?
[05:37] <traveller> rob_p: a traceroute, it is logged by firestarter in events
[05:37] <Vubuntu> Vubuntu, I"m mainly a desktop user. So i'm by no means an expert with Debian or Ubuntu. I have used Slackware,fedora, suse, mandriva also. So i'm no newbie eaither :)
[05:37] <Vubuntu> ack lol I mean xNinja
[05:37] <tha_gamemaster> ati + linux = headache?
[05:37] <palandia> {linuxcraker] : are you there?
[05:38] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: yea thats right
[05:38] <rob_p> traveller:  as in a traceroute being done from my server to you?
[05:38] <xNinja> i want to take Hacking Exposed 5th Edition, Gray Hat Hacking : The Ethical Hacker's Handbook Nessus, Snort, & Ethereal Power Tools : Customizing Open Source Security Applications/ Network Security Assessment / Network Security Hacks
[05:38] <traveller> rob_p: that's what it says on the log
[05:38] <{linuxcraker] > yes
[05:38] <xNinja> i want to be a hacking/security/analyzer expert :P
[05:38] <xabier> exit
[05:38] <tha_gamemaster> ^thehatsrule^, darn, i was hoping to use some ati cards for a PVR box, guess i'll buy the wintv with the hauppage chip
[05:38] <{linuxcraker] > sorry
[05:38] <Vubuntu> xNinja, good we need more :)
[05:38] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: well uh, what card have you got now?
[05:39] <rob_p> traveller:  I do have a Web-based traceroute utility on my website... but what are the chances...  hrm...
[05:39] <tha_gamemaster> ^thehatsrule^, ati all in wonder radeon ...32MB and 64MB one's a 7000 something i think
[05:39] <xNinja> Vubuntu need more of what ? ethical hackers ?
[05:39] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: thats not supported by official drivers, youll have to get your hands on 3rd party drivers
[05:40] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: official supports radeons 8500+
[05:40] <Vubuntu> xNinja, sure :) The more the better to get out systems secure as possible
[05:40] <xNinja> :)
[05:40] <tha_gamemaster> ^thehatsrule^, ah these are too old then, thanks, *laughs* my brother is having a nightmare with his ati under winblows, and I enjoy my linux without error
[05:41] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: hehe, you can buy 3d drivers if you need it... XiG i think it was
[05:41] <coldfile1162> can i use the ubuntu add-on cd with kubuntu?
[05:41] <tha_gamemaster> ^thehatsrule^, buy drivers you say? i'm confuzzled...
[05:42] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: yea, theyre commercial
[05:42] <ZincX> how can i remove the ~ on my ident /
[05:42] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: ati's just starting to give a little linux support for their new cards...
[05:42] <tha_gamemaster> ^thehatsrule^, is this the company you were talking about ? http://www.xig.com/Pages/Summit/HdweSupported/ChipINDEX.html
[05:43] <ZaphoidBB> I just installed Ubuntu "Horay Hedgehog" and I use a PS2 mouse. I just did a fresh install, but my mouse wont work! How can I fix this?
[05:43] <coldfile1162> CAN I USE THE UBUNTU ADD_ON CD ON KUBUNTU?
[05:43] <Vubuntu> xNinja, so what linux distros have you tried?
[05:43] <SysFail> couldnt hear you coldfile1162
[05:43] <SysFail> what?
[05:43] <Quest-Master> coldfile1162: turn off caps lock~
[05:43] <coldfile1162> oh sorry
[05:43] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: yeah, xig :)
[05:43] <ZincX> how can i remove the ~ on my ident /
[05:44] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: i know it should work, cause AA recommends it for linux
[05:44] <shammy>  how can I determine what chipset my wireless networking adapter is?
[05:44] <xNinja> Vubuntu now i have debian as vhosting server running as main server and ubuntu at laptop and i am a RHCE but after taking it i left the rh :D
[05:44] <^thehatsrule^> shammy: look on the chip itself
[05:44] <tha_gamemaster> ^thehatsrule^, cool, thanks. I'm looking at all this hardware and just aching to do something linux with it, but not too many ideas.
[05:44] <coldfile1162> can someone tell me if i can use the ubuntu add-on cd on kubuntu?
[05:44] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: yeah, heh... i had my hands on a radeon 7k too, but didnt bother to buy the drivers
[05:45] <tha_gamemaster> shammy, lspci
[05:45] <shammy> tha_gamemaster: in my case, lsusb, right?
[05:45] <shammy> since it's an adapter
[05:45] <balistic22> Hey i have a vaio taht i just did a floppy install to download debian (sarge) and i recently just got a hold of an external cd rom drive
[05:45] <palandia> does anyone has compiled the via driver for unichrome?
[05:45] <balistic22> and im trying to install ubuntu but i cant
[05:45] <Vubuntu> xNinja, good to hear :). Soon ubuntu will rule the world! :)
[05:45] <xNinja> Vubuntu i also tried freebsd but not alot
[05:45] <tha_gamemaster> shammy, you are quite correct
[05:46] <craig__> Hey
[05:46] <xNinja> Vubuntu u sure ?
[05:46] <tha_gamemaster> ^thehatsrule^, separate question, any suggestions how to set up linux to act as a port restricter between one computer and the network? i just want to allow like 4 ports to one machine
[05:46] <Vubuntu> xNinja, yea me too. I tried freebsd too but didn't more care for since you have to configure every little thing on it lol
[05:46] <tha_gamemaster> Vubuntu, i'm looking at OpenBSD
[05:46] <craig__> I have a problem with my network the xp system can see my ubuntu system but i can seem to see my own shared folder
[05:47] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: like a linux router? try using some firewall, like iptables
[05:47] <craig__> Any ideas why this would be?
[05:47] <Vubuntu> tha_gamemaster, how is OpenBSD?
[05:47] <tha_gamemaster> ^thehatsrule^, yea just like a router, but EXTREMELY restrictive
[05:47] <^thehatsrule^> tha_gamemaster: yea you can just config it in the firewall
[05:47] <ZincX> how can i remove the ~ on my ident
[05:47] <tha_gamemaster> Vubuntu, apparently the most secure of all the BSDs, but i've yet to install it successfully *laughs*
[05:47] <ZincX> ??
[05:47] <xNinja> Vubuntu i dont know why i love the freebsd/devil :P but debian/ubuntu seems to told me no debian/ubuntu is here
[05:47] <ZincX> no one knows aen ?
[05:47] <tha_gamemaster> ^thehatsrule^, cool i've got to look at it...
[05:48] <craig__> It was working fine last night but does not seem to be working now
[05:48] <^thehatsrule^> :)
[05:48] <Vubuntu> tha_gamemaster, haha all I got to say is goooooooooooood luck. :)
[05:48] <^thehatsrule^> heh i hear freebsd is supposedly the best choice ;p
[05:48] <SysFail> nothing wrong with freebsd
[05:49] <SysFail> used it for 6 years
[05:49] <traveller> are there any other firewall frontends that will start at boot and provide a gui?
[05:49] <regeya> splits are fun
[05:49] <palandia> anyone can help me downloading the kernel source with apt?
[05:49] <palandia> please
[05:50] <Vubuntu> xNinja, well Freebsd is nice if you like full control in configuring everything. But in my experience it all leads to the same thing. A Working System LOL
[05:50] <regeya> traveller, when you say 'any other' what are we ruling out here
[05:50] <avanspronsen> pc-bsd looks promising, simple package management, install asks just a couple of questions
[05:50] <craig__> can anyone help how do i find my shared folder on my network i cant seem to see it anymore
[05:51] <Vubuntu> avanspronsen, yea i've tried pc-bsd too. It I think it will go far in the future! It's super user easy. I liked it
[05:51] <traveller> regeya: anything basically, i've tried firehol but it logs to /var/log/messages and messes up dmesg, shorewall is a bit too hard for me to configure
[05:51] <tha_gamemaster> palandia, sudo apt-get install linux-source
[05:51] <avanspronsen> Vubuntu: I dropped it fast though because they don;t yet do gnome
[05:51] <SysFail> regeya: you wanna use a dedicated linux box for this?
[05:52] <Vubuntu> avanspronsen, oh yea. I start having withdrawl symtoms when I don't got my gnome. And it's not pretty! :)
[05:52] <regeya> SysFail, tab-completion sucks sometimes, don't it?
[05:53] <SysFail> wasnt it you looking for the firewall thing?
[05:53] <xNinja> Vubuntu lol :)
[05:53] <avanspronsen> Vubuntu: me too :-)
[05:53] <xNinja> avanspronsen why gnome not kde /
[05:53] <hondje> Anyone use multisync?
[05:53] <ZaphoidBB> How do I go about installing Azereus on Ubuntu?
[05:53] <kestas> can anyone recommend a good wireless pcmcia card for my laptop which will work with ubuntu?
[05:53] <benplaut> !azureus
[05:53] <ubotu> benplaut: Are you smoking crack?
[05:53] <regeya> traveller, I've not used it with Ubuntu but I've used Firestarter on other Linux distributions.  It's pretty simple.  I can't vouch for it being ultra-safe but I had no problems.
[05:53] <benplaut> no, i'm not
[05:54] <tha_gamemaster> kestas, orinoco
[05:54] <ZaphoidBB> !azureus
[05:54] <kestas> k thanks
[05:54] <regeya> SysFail, I asked traveller a question about traveller's GUI firewall question.
[05:54] <benplaut> ZaphoidBB:  www.ubuntuhuide.com
[05:54] <SysFail> ok
[05:54] <benplaut> woops
[05:54] <avanspronsen> xNinja: Kde just seems to be too much.  HArd to explain, gnome is simple, responsive
[05:54] <SysFail> nm then
[05:54] <hondje> I like the rules firestarter makes, really well done I think
[05:54] <benplaut> ubuntuguide.org
[05:54] <traveller> regeya: hm...does firestarter load up on boot?
[05:55] <f_newton> yes traveller
[05:55] <regeya> avanspronsen, well said.  I wish there were a happy medium between gnome's simplicity and kde's ultra-configurability...I remember when it was the other way around...lol
[05:55] <f_newton> its running from boot and if you call the gui you are only opening up a configuration window
[05:56] <thewarrior> hey i need help i installed teamspeak but idk how to get it to work
[05:56] <f_newton> regeya, and when was that ever the case?
[05:56] <nickrud> I hadn't looked at firestarter's rules for a while; they certainly are shorter :)
[05:56] <ZaphoidBB> I ran apt-get install azureus.. All it said was that it could not find package azureus
[05:56] <avanspronsen> regeya: it is hard to explain a personal preference to someone else :-)
[05:56] <regeya> f_newton, a few years ago.
[05:56] <thewarrior> hey i need help i installed teamspeak but idk how to get it to work
[05:56] <Vubuntu> xNinja, gnome gets the Job done. I feel like I got too much laying around with kde. It just seems that way
[05:57] <f_newton> uh ok whatever you say regeya
[05:57] <regeya> f_newton, if you have a specific objection to what I said just spit it out :-)
[05:57] <balistic22> how do i find out what my architecture is "Running debian"
[05:57] <thewarrior> hello?
[05:57] <regeya> f_newton, what was your opinion of kde 1.x vs. gnome at the time?
[05:57] <nickrud> regeya, 1.0.56, maybe :)
[05:57] <f_newton> I dont... everyone is welcome to their opinion but honestly kde has always been massive bloat since day one
[05:57] <kestas> I just got a new laptop and installed ubuntu on it but the problem is the synaptics mousepad is really unsensitive to tapping on it to make mouse clicks, is there any way of increasing the sensitivity
[05:57] <kestas> ?
[05:57] <black13> nomasteryoda?
[05:58] <balistic22> Omg..
[05:58] <f_newton> gnome has always been a lot easier to run even before kde 1
[05:58] <balistic22> i need some help
[05:58] <thewarrior> hey i need help i installed teamspeak but idk how to get it to work. what do i click on to get it to work i just installed ubuntu like 30 mins ago
[05:58] <windex> f_newton, i know. almost as bad as the kernel. who the heck needs ppc support anyway?
[05:58] <regeya> f_newton, that has little to do with my comment about role-reversal of the projects, but thanks for sharing
[05:58] <f_newton> Idontg
[05:58] <tha_gamemaster> kestas, any wireless card with the prismII chipset should work also
[05:58] <ZaphoidBB> I ran apt-get update.. Then an apt-get install azureus... But it is still saying package not found.
[05:59] <thewarrior> does anyone here use teamspeak?
[05:59] <kestas> tha_gamemaster, do you have a wireless system set up? can I pm you?
[05:59] <calc> gnome was pretty yuck until 2.0
[05:59] <f_newton> well the non rh version was thats true
[05:59] <xNinja> hey Vubuntu are you a live:)
[05:59] <thewarrior> Does Anyone use teamspeak i need help with it
[06:00] <f_newton> most distros used kde because it was an everything including the kitchen sink window manager
[06:00] <Vubuntu> xNinja, no i'm a dead :)
[06:00] <kestas> tha_gamemaster, do you know of a wireless set up which is cheap, can reach the whole house, and is linux compatible?
[06:00] <f_newton> kestas, netgear
[06:00] <tha_gamemaster> kestas, yea you can pm me
[06:00] <xNinja> Vubuntu ooh thats bad then who i gona hack when i be an expert :P
[06:00] <balistic22> Im running a debian kernel (sarge) and i was trying to install ubuntu off of debian because i didnt have a cd rom drive.. now i have an external cd rom drive and im having trouble booting ubuntu can i get some help
[06:00] <kestas> it doesnt have to be fast, have a firewall, or 1 billion config options
[06:00] <thewarrior> Hello can anyone see my writing
[06:01] <regeya> no, thewarrior, try retyping it
[06:01] <thewarrior> lol
[06:01] <avanspronsen> :-)
[06:01] <Vubuntu> xNinja, how about bill gates. :) #rm windows :)
[06:01] <thewarrior> does anyone here have teamspeak??
[06:02] <balistic22> hey i guess no one wants to help me
[06:02] <thewarrior> i installed the linux version but i cant get it to run
[06:02] <avanspronsen> thewarrior: sounds sound like it bud?  Have you tried google?
[06:02] <f_newton> kestas you can get an entire package including wifi cards from netgear G for around 50 dollars sometimes as low as 30 dollars
[06:03] <avanspronsen> thewarrior: sorry, doesn't sound like it, have you tried google?
[06:03] <thewarrior> nope hey gocheck out www.justfuckinggoogle.com
[06:03] <xNinja> Vubuntu nice aiming :P
[06:03] <kestas> f_newton, is that with crappy range? Id like to be able to use wireless form the whole house
[06:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> can anyone here connect to austnets IRC servers?
[06:03] <Vubuntu> xNinja, :)
[06:03] <kestas> f_newton, could you give me the name to google?
[06:03] <balistic22> Which ubuntu cd should i use if its 'I686
[06:03] <f_newton> kestas unless you live in a house the size of bill gates shoppingmall sized house yes
[06:04] <f_newton> kestas NETGEAR
[06:04] <avanspronsen> balistic22: there is only 1 CD
[06:04] <kestas> f_newton, k :) netgear it is
[06:04] <balistic22>  hteres other cds depending on architecture
[06:04] <balistic22> Ok right now on my other lap top
[06:04] <f_newton> kestas, there are other brands out there too but make sure they are linux compatible before you buy them
[06:04] <balistic22> i see Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 debian22 tty1
[06:05] <balistic22> IM trying to access the cd rom for install
[06:05] <balistic22> WHat DO I DO
[06:05] <f_newton> netgear is usually the least expensive of the major brands
[06:05] <avanspronsen> balistic22:  you can update the kernel afterwards via apt-get
[06:05] <balistic22> avanspronsen how
[06:05] <kestas> f_newton, how do you tell if a netgear is linux compatible?
[06:05] <f_newton> most netgear cards use the intersil prism2 driver
[06:05] <balistic22> avanspronsen how do i get to apt... and for some reason i installed gnome but there were some errors with the screen
[06:06] <f_newton> while some super g cards etc use the 2.5 and may not be out of the box compatible ndiswrapper takes care of it
[06:06] <ZaphoidBB> I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu. And when I try to apt-get install sun-j2rel.5 as per http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre it says E: Couldn't find package sun-j2rel.5
[06:06] <hondje> anyone using multisync?
[06:06] <avanspronsen> sudp apt-get install kernel-image-686 from a terminal
[06:06] <Burgundavia> ZaphoidBB, better guide at wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:07] <nickrud> cookiemnstr, you still around? I got called away by work, didn't get a chance to finish your modem question
[06:07] <f_newton> kestas, My suggestion is to shop around, do some reading, and check the compatibility site
[06:07] <avanspronsen> balistic22: you can also go to System -> Administration -> synaptic package manager for a gui
[06:08] <balistic22> i dont have a gui
[06:08] <balistic22> and it just told me
[06:08] <f_newton> balistic22, you running sarge?
[06:08] <ZaphoidBB> Heh, using the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java I ran the command apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 and it still says "Couldn`t find package"
[06:09] <avanspronsen> ZaphoidBB: did you install the additional repositories?
[06:09] <ZaphoidBB> I just saw that, and I am an idiot for not reading 100%. I apologise.
[06:09] <shammy> normally when i put a disc in the drive, it auto mounts it and puts an icon on the desktop, but now it isnt recognizing it at all, i need the kernel headers to get my wifi going so i need the install disc
[06:09] <avanspronsen> ZaphoidBB: NP :-)
[06:10] <Burgundavia> ZaphoidBB, the page was badly done, I have redone it
[06:11] <ZaphoidBB> Universe and Multiverse.. I love the obscure refrence there :)
[06:11] <nickrud> !components
[06:11] <balistic22> f_newton yes i am running sarge
[06:11] <ubotu> methinks components is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[06:12] <f_newton> I guessed that from your no gui statement yep you dont have one
[06:13] <jrattner1> Is unbuntu good for laptops
[06:14] <avanspronsen> jrattner1: It works great on my Thinkpad t41P
[06:14] <TeeagooColony2> what is more fast KDE or GNOME? ( my pc is a k6 500, 256 ram... )
[06:14] <Adrenline> im also using it on a t41
[06:14] <ratl3> xfce
[06:14] <f_newton> jrattner1, I think so ... its been good on mine so far
[06:14] <Adrenline> works great
[06:14] <jrattner1> even with new hardware
[06:14] <jrattner1> I cant get anything to go to well on my machine
[06:14] <avanspronsen> jrattner1: my T41p is about a year old
[06:15] <avanspronsen> jrattner1: using a docking station is another matter though :-)
[06:15] <balistic22> I cant access m yfuckin cd rom drive
[06:15] <balistic22> sorry for language
[06:15] <PurpleMotion> calm down
[06:15] <PurpleMotion> how are you trying to access it?
[06:15] <kestas> f_newton, http://www.netgear.com/products/details/WG511.php seems cheap and good, but it doesnt say linux is supported
[06:15] <kestas> how can I tell?
[06:16] <Xenguy> eeeez gun balistik mate !
[06:16] <f_newton> look up what driver it has... you can do that by checking driver.com against the model # of the card
[06:16] <Adrenline> anyone know how I find the name of a package im looking for? example: I need to install the samba libs. dont know the name to pop into apt to do such.
[06:16] <PurpleMotion> benplaut:  got my new video card today, m8
[06:16] <balistic22> howdo i whipe out everything on my hardrive and start from scratch
[06:17] <f_newton> balistic22, do you have an ubuntu cd?
[06:17] <avanspronsen> Adrenline: you can do a sudo apt-cache search <text> to help narrow down the possibilities
[06:17] <deprave> just put the cd in your cdrom, set cd bootable, reinstall
[06:17] <balistic22> f_newton yes i do
[06:17] <balistic22> deprave i cant my comp wont recognize the thing.. it says it sees the usb external cd rom drive but it wont boot from it
[06:17] <PurpleMotion> balistic22:  reinstall ubuntu and tell the installer to erase the disk
[06:17] <shammy> Why won;t it recognize the drive and put an icon on the desktop anymore when i put a cd in? I need to get the kernel headers but can't without the install cd
[06:17] <nickrud> balistic22, boot the hoary install, and tell the installer to use the whole dis
[06:17] <nickrud> k
[06:18] <ZaphoidBB> One last question. can ubuntu cure the common cold? If it can, what is the package name in apt?
[06:18] <deprave> balistic22: interesting
[06:18] <balistic22> the computer cannot load the cd up
[06:18] <balistic22> its an external cd rom drive i dunno what to do
[06:18] <avanspronsen> shammy: have you removed the CD entry from /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:18] <deprave> balistic22 : shake your fist at it and say "lookie here mr, take it and love it!"
[06:18] <deprave> but really.
[06:18] <benplaut> grr... bored2k, come online
[06:18] <deprave> hmm
[06:18] <PurpleMotion> balistic22:  does your bios have an option to boot from usb?
[06:18] <balistic22> lol
[06:18] <shammy> avanspronsen: nope, this is a fresh install and i've done nothing but reconfigure x
[06:19] <balistic22> PurpleMotion no it doesnt
[06:19] <avanspronsen> shammy: if you remove the cd entry you will force apt to go to the online repositories
[06:19] <Adrenline> anyone here had trouble compiling mplayer with smb support?
[06:19] <balistic22> i dunno what to do
[06:20] <shammy> avanspronsen: I need the kernel headers so i can install ndiswrapper and get my internet working, so i can't get the online repositories
[06:20] <avanspronsen> shammy: gotcha
[06:20] <deprave> balistic22 : unfortunately i don't know the solution to your problem.
[06:21] <shammy> avanspronsen: what is the cdrom's name so i can mount it manually?
[06:21] <Lancellor> how do i do to change a video card giv me and error when is booting
[06:21] <balistic22> ugh...
[06:22] <Adrenline> anyone on the mplayer/smb thing?
[06:22] <BeatYou> am i lagging or something?
[06:22] <deprave> how did you get it on there the first time?
[06:22] <f_newton> ballistic your cd rom drive will free itself on reboot if absolutely necessary but do you know the cli for operating it?
[06:23] <skalpel> is there a way to make rhthymbox scan for new music on start/
[06:23] <skalpel> ?
[06:23] <nickrud> probably, I've been lagging a bit now and then
[06:23] <BeatYou> strange
[06:23] <avanspronsen> shammy: depends, how many hard drives?
[06:23] <balistic22> whats cli f_newton
[06:23] <nickrud> as if the net always works :)
[06:23] <calc> cli == command line interface
[06:23] <f_newton> command line interface
[06:24] <shammy> avanspronsen: 2 hardrives, one cdrom/dvd drive
[06:24] <crispynix-v6> oi
[06:24] <avanspronsen> shammy: /dev//hdc
[06:24] <clinton> when i type aptitude install libwcgtk2.4 it does nothing!
[06:24] <clinton> but when i search for it
[06:24] <shammy> avanspronsen: ok thanks
[06:24] <clinton> it shows up
[06:24] <clinton> (and i don't already have it :()
[06:24] <avanspronsen> shammy: give it a try, let me know
[06:24] <balistic22> how do i find out the cli
[06:25] <clinton> erm
[06:25] <clinton> libwxgtk2.4
[06:25] <balistic22> cant i just whipe out the whole efin hard drive and start from scratch
[06:25] <shammy> avanspronsen: one more thing, suppose it gets mounted correctly, how can i specify the cd is in that dir to get the headers?
[06:26] <f_newton> balistic22, what is your goal?
[06:26] <calc> balistic22: yea it asks you if you want to erase the whole drive and install to it
[06:26] <avanspronsen> shammy: just do your apt-get install, it should find it if it is mounted
[06:26] <balistic22> f_newton  i want to install ubuntu on this mini laptop
[06:26] <clinton> how do i install libwxgtk2.4 for audacity :(
[06:26] <shammy> avanspronsen: thanks alot
[06:27] <f_newton> do you have a web browser loaded or do you have the cdrom for ubuntu?
[06:27] <balistic22> I have a cd rom for ubuntu
[06:27] <balistic22> i ordered like 50 million
[06:27] <avanspronsen> shammy: np, I am just learning this stuff too, hopefully I got you going in the right direction :-)
[06:27] <f_newton> ok balistic22 reset the machine and when the bios is reloading open up your cdrom drive and insert the ubuntu disk
[06:28] <f_newton> it will be unlocked at that time
[06:28] <SteveB_> how do i get ubuntu to use the appropriate sound card since i have two?
[06:28] <f_newton> then reset and follow instructions
[06:28] <balistic22> F_newton ok let me try that
[06:28] <f_newton> ok
[06:28] <balistic22> f_newton you know this is an external cd rom drive right
[06:28] <balistic22> plugged in through usb
[06:29] <Lancellor> anyone how to change a video card get a error when booting
[06:29] <clinton> does anyone know a good recording program?
[06:29] <clinton> alternative to audacity??
[06:29] <f_newton> no I didnt
[06:29] <f_newton> hang on a second then
[06:29] <balistic22> f_newton yeah its a plextor dvdr drive
[06:29] <balistic22> f_newton ok
[06:29] <f_newton> thats y you cant find your cdrom drive then
[06:30] <f_newton> balistic22, in your bios dont you have a boot from usb device option?
[06:30] <Lancellor> http://www.metadecks.org/software/sweep/   try this
[06:30] <f_newton> give me the make n model of your lappy
[06:30] <balistic22> SOny VAio Pcg-c1xs
[06:30] <f_newton> ah the vaio
[06:30] <clinton> thanks lancellor
[06:30] <Lancellor> the audio software  http://www.metadecks.org/software/sweep/
[06:30] <balistic22> came with an external floppy
[06:30] <balistic22> is all
[06:31] <f_newton> a lot of money for a very little bit of hardware
[06:31] <balistic22> i got it free
[06:31] <f_newton> ok.... well it does have a boot on usb option in the bios
[06:31] <f_newton> unless its an old old one
[06:31] <f_newton> well free is a great price
[06:31] <balistic22> well it came with win 98
[06:31] <SteveB__> how do i get ubuntu to use the appropriate sound card since i have two?
[06:31] <f_newton> hmmm
[06:31] <shammy> avanspronsen: i just tryed mounting the cdrom drive, it's spinning and the terminal is at a blank line, like something is happening..but it's still going, how long would it take?
[06:32] <f_newton> balistic22, let me check the stats on that model...brb
[06:32] <balistic22> f_newton ok i really appreciate you helping me out
[06:32] <f_newton> been there balistic22 been there.
[06:32] <avanspronsen> shammy: shouldn't take long at all
[06:33] <Xenguy> shammy: Ctrl-C ?
[06:33] <shammy> Xenguy: what does that do? the comp is upstairs
[06:33] <Xenguy> shammy: returns a hung session to a command prompt
[06:34] <balistic22> lol
[06:34] <shammy> ok thanks
[06:34] <Xenguy> yw
[06:34] <avanspronsen> shammy: If you type mount in a terminal windows you don't see a line with /media/cdrom?
[06:35] <shammy> avanspronsen: i need to go do ctr c like xenguy said, but last time i looked it was still processing something
[06:35] <avanspronsen> shammy: ok, sounds good
[06:36] <SteveB__> how do i get ubuntu to use the appropriate sound card since i have two?
[06:36] <balistic22> random question.. i forgot what was my root login name.. how do i find out what names are in the sudoer file
[06:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> balistic22: only root can read the sudoers file
[06:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> live cd time ;)
[06:37] <balistic22> well i forgot the root sn
[06:37] <Brunellus> is only the first user added to sudoers by default
[06:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> balistic22: did you create one? try using sudo
[06:37] <Mobus> How do I cd into a folder whose name has a space in it?
[06:37] <Brunellus> or is every subsequent user added, too?
[06:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> Brunellus: yes
[06:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> just first
[06:37] <Brunellus> awesome.
[06:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mobus: using "\ "
[06:37] <balistic22> nvm
[06:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> the \ is to escape the space
[06:38] <Xenguy> Mobus: escape the space with a '\' character
[06:38] <Mobus> so it'd be #: cd folder\name?
[06:38] <nickrud> Brunellus, if you want some to  have sudo privs, add them to th admin group
[06:38] <f_newton> balistic22, ok ... this is a pII 400mhz machine with only 64 megs of ram and a 2 gig hdd   you dont need to be setting up any linux gui enabled os on it
[06:38] <f_newton> there isnt enough room
[06:38] <f_newton> or memory speed
[06:38] <Brunellus> no, I don't want them to have sudo privs...no way.
[06:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mobus: folder\ name
[06:38] <Mobus> ah thanks
[06:38] <nickrud> lol. Brunellus good choice :)
[06:38] <Brunellus> I shudder to think what my mother could do with sudo privs!
[06:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> f_newton: more RAM and it would be fine
[06:39] <balistic22> f_newton i dont understand
[06:39] <f_newton> Kamping_Kaiser, more ram and more hdd space
[06:39] <Brunellus> not like she knows how to do anything...but all those GUIs are so tempting, and so easy to break by messing with them inadvertently
[06:39] <Brunellus> hell, I know from bitter personal experience!
[06:39] <Mobus> thanks bunches
[06:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> f_newton: 2 gig is fine
[06:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> for Ubuntu
[06:39] <nickrud> gdm root privs, by any chance Brunellus ?
[06:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mobus: all good
[06:39] <f_newton> balistic22, u dont have the system resources to run a linux gui  you barely have the resourcese to run win98
[06:40] <Brunellus> say again nickrud?
[06:40] <f_newton> not for a gui install it isnt
[06:40] <balistic22> so what do i do... ? Throw the laptop out the window
[06:40] <Brunellus> f_newton:  false
[06:40] <liraz> Does anyone know of a program similar to kalarm for gnome(since trying to download kalarm forces me to basically download all kde libs). I want it mainly for the timed reminders...
[06:40] <Brunellus> you can run a linux GUI with very limited resources
[06:40] <Brunellus> it just requires very careful package selection
[06:40] <Brunellus> you can't run GNOME, for sure
[06:41] <Brunellus> but IceWM or Fluxbox or Openbox, sure
[06:41] <f_newton> ok fine... what w/m then?
[06:41] <Xenguy> liraz: just d/l the KDE lib's :-)
[06:41] <Brunellus> I'd go with flux
[06:41] <f_newton> we are only talking 2g hdd...
[06:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> liraz: try using evolution
[06:41] <nickrud> fluxbox, if I can't use gnome
[06:41] <Brunellus> f_newton:  have you started looking into DamnSmallLinux?
[06:41] <f_newton> yeah or xfce
[06:41] <Brunellus> the whole distro is 50 MB
[06:42] <nickrud> no, fluxbox, for me ; P
[06:42] <f_newton> Ive got a linux install on a floppy drive
[06:42] <balistic22> f_newton what should i do
[06:42] <Brunellus> right.  this isn't a 'how small can you make your distro' contest...
[06:42] <f_newton> but its not gonna be what a n00b is expecting at all
[06:42] <f_newton> he cant run sarge
[06:42] <nickrud> it's what works, and where it works
[06:42] <Brunellus> if the choice is between the computer that works
[06:42] <Brunellus> and the computer that doesn't
[06:42] <f_newton> right
[06:42] <liraz> Kamping_Kaiser, does it have timed reminders which pop up on my screen without running the whole e-mail client?
[06:43] <ColonelKernel> sarge is ok, I dont like the whole xfree86/gnome2.8 thing
[06:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> liraz: i believe so, but i don't use it
[06:43] <Brunellus> I'd teach him to use the computer that works. and I'd either go with DSL or with ubuntu as configured in the lowmem wikipage
[06:43] <Brunellus> (and the associated forum howto)
[06:43] <SteveB__> how do i get ubuntu to use the appropriate sound card since i have two?
[06:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> SteveB__: i cant help, sorry
[06:44] <f_newton> balistic22, If it was me, but honestly if these fine folks have a better solution for you it wont hurt to listen, but if it was me I would try to get bigger memory and a bigger hdd first then read the data on google results from linux on your laptop
[06:44] <balistic22> Brunellus f_newton What do you guys think i should do.. i mean i have more then 2gb hardrive this thing has more space then that
[06:44] <Brunellus> how much RAM have you got?
[06:44] <f_newton> who changed your drive balistic22 ?
[06:44] <Brunellus> if you have around 128 MB, I'd go with XFCE
[06:45] <Brunellus> but you'd also need to find a way to automout removeable storage...which shouldn't be that bad
[06:45] <balistic22> f_newton this laptop belonged to my cousin and when he had win 98 the thing said 10 gb of space
[06:45] <f_newton> the web site said you have a 64mb ram 2gig hdd
[06:45] <balistic22> actually 13
[06:45] <b0xen> Hey, anybody have any idea what the default root password on the Ubuntu Live CD is?
[06:45] <Brunellus> b0xen, there is none....
[06:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> b0xen: there isnt one afaik
[06:45] <f_newton> balistic if you have that much load ubuntu
[06:45] <Brunellus> sudo 'ubuntu'
[06:45] <SteveB__> how do i get ubuntu to use the appropriate sound card since i have two?
[06:45] <b0xen> it wont let me su into root
[06:45] <balistic22> f_newton how do i load the effin cd
[06:45] <b0xen> blank password doesnt work either
[06:45] <nickrud> f_newton, I'm lagging, but the 'mem & disk' is fine advice
[06:45] <luminerd> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=350118
[06:45] <fr500> b0xen, sudo su?
[06:46] <b0xen> sudu: command not found
[06:46] <Brunellus> f_newton: I'd add one caveat--a full-bore Ubuntu install is going to be dog-slow
[06:46] <f_newton> yeah I know Brunellus he isnt going to be happy
[06:46] <avanspronsen> b0xen: sudo
[06:46] <fr500> b0xen, sudo
[06:46] <Brunellus> f_newton:  I'd go with xfce or flux
[06:46] <f_newton> its only a 400mhz p2
[06:46] <b0xen> sudu: command not found
[06:46] <f_newton> sudo
[06:46] <Brunellus> f_newton:  that's plenty for flux
[06:47] <Kaiser_essen> f_newton: i have run Ubuntu on pentium 200s with 96 MB of RAM
[06:47] <b0xen> ooooh
[06:47] <b0xen> lol
[06:47] <balistic22> im using it just to hold on to music
[06:47] <Kaiser_essen> "just a 400" doesnt stand up ;)
[06:47] <balistic22> thats all im doing
[06:47] <b0xen> thanks lol
[06:47] <Brunellus> Kaiser_essen:  did you run GNOME?!
[06:47] <b0xen> i feel dumb
[06:47] <balistic22> and at least run aim
[06:47] <balistic22> what should i do
[06:47] <Kaiser_essen> my parents box is a 400 with 128 MB of RAM
[06:47] <Kaiser_essen> Brunellus: yes
[06:47] <Brunellus> Gott im Himmel.
[06:47] <f_newton> well heck first check your bios to see if you can boot from usb device
[06:47] <f_newton> if you can set it to that
[06:47] <SteveB__> how do i get ubuntu to use the appropriate sound card since i have two?
[06:48] <f_newton> then stick the cdrom in the sucka and hit enter
[06:48] <Kaiser_essen> *I'm gone*
[06:48] <Brunellus> I'd have gone with flux with that little RAM.  you were pretty brave to stay with GNOME
[06:48] <Kaiser_essen> :)
[06:48] <balistic22> f_newton i would of tried that by now... the only 3 options cd rom drive , hardrive , and floppy
[06:48] <balistic22> when i try cd rom drive it dont do jack
[06:49] <f_newton> do you have a ?
[06:49] <balistic22> what do you mean f_newton
[06:49] <f_newton> do you have the floppy driver disk for your usb device?
[06:49] <Brunellus> bah.
[06:50] <f_newton> install that at boot if it has command.com on it with the ubuntu disk in the cdrom drive
[06:50] <fr500> how would you do a net install if the bios doesnt support pxe?
[06:50] <balistic22> f_newton yes i do have the floppy
[06:50] <shammy> I installed the kernel headers with synaptic, but where does it install them? I need the path
[06:51] <f_newton> I am thinking rooburger right about now...
[06:51] <f_newton> so I may be signing off for a quick trip to jack in the box
[06:51] <f_newton> ...
[06:51] <shammy> is it /usr/src/linux?
[06:51] <balistic22> f_newton is there a way i can get an ubuntu boot disk that willl recognize the cd rom drive
[06:51] <f_newton> hunger is devasting stuff
[06:52] <f_newton> balistic22, only if you can get the bios to recognize your cdrom drive and since you dont have the drive  you are going to have to boot the driver for the device from the floppy
[06:52] <f_newton> unless you dont have a floppy either
[06:52] <Doonz> whats the command to see how much ram i have?
[06:52] <f_newton> balistic22, you need to go online and find the right stuff for your laptop and get it... try ebay
[06:53] <balistic22> f_newton im gonna just put xp on it
[06:53] <f_newton> being vaio it may cost ya som bux
[06:53] <f_newton> xp is goint to take 1.25 gig just for the os alone
[06:53] <balistic22> im also thinking of buying a laptop for when i go away to college
[06:53] <balistic22> what should i do
[06:53] <f_newton> and it may not load with only 64meg of ram
[06:53] <balistic22> or buy
[06:54] <fr500> balistic22, do you have broadband access to internet?
[06:54] <balistic22> yes
[06:54] <fr500> balistic22, and the issue is?
[06:54] <fr500> what is not working i mean
[06:54] <balistic22> what issue?
[06:54] <f_newton> fr500 if you can get him to use sarge's cli browser to net install you are one patient fella
[06:54] <fr500> i thought you had a problem
[06:54] <balistic22> fr500 i do have ap roblem
[06:55] <fr500> f_newton, why not ubuntu pxe boot?
[06:55] <balistic22> Fr500 what fnewton said
[06:55] <fr500> balistic22, all you want to do is install ubuntu?
[06:55] <balistic22> yeah i guess
[06:55] <balistic22> but i dont have a cd rom drive
[06:55] <f_newton> I will be back in about 15 minutes.... burger run !
[06:55] <balistic22> k thanks f_newton
[06:55] <f_newton> yer welcome
[06:55] <fr500> balistic22, do you have another pc?
[06:55] <f_newton> lol
[06:55] <balistic22> fr500 yes i do
[06:55] <balistic22> im on it right now
[06:55] <fr500> with.......say xp
[06:56] <balistic22> yess'
[06:56] <fr500> ok
[06:56] <fr500> let me find the link for you
[06:56] <fr500> it's real easy
[06:56] <balistic22> im talking to you from a thinkpad t22 with windows xp
[06:56] <balistic22> the issue is im trying to install ubuntu on a sony vaio pcg c1xs
[06:56] <seife`> yo
[06:57] <balistic22> its a shitty little comp
[06:57] <LinuxDolt> ok...  how do i make it so also doesn't load certain sound modules?
[06:57] <balistic22> but im trying to fix it
[06:57] <LinuxDolt> *alsa
[06:58] <fr500> balistic22, it's cool
[06:58] <conciselinux> ubuntu does not detect the modem
[06:58] <fr500> give me a sec
[06:58] <balistic22> kk
[06:58] <conciselinux> d link modem
[06:58] <isai> how to interchange the functions between two keys. I have laptop and want to change the function between the CTRL and FN keys.
[06:59] <LinuxDolt> anyone know where the config files for alsa are located in this distro?
[06:59] <fr500> balistic22, this is all you need
[06:59] <fr500> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot?highlight=%28windows%29
[06:59] <balistic22> ok let me look at it
[07:01] <Brunellus> ok stupid xchat question
[07:01] <Brunellus> how on earth do I make xchat display whatever I enter in a more legible colour than grey?
[07:02] <LinuxDolt> Brunellus: I know, the new defaults are nasty.
[07:02] <jianshi> i think it's /etc/also
[07:02] <Brunellus> LinuxDolt.  yeah, it's a pain in the arse
[07:02] <jianshi> - /etc/alsa
[07:03] <Brunellus> Do you know how to get it back to how it used to be?
[07:03] <bingobango> anyone using dual monitors?  i tried running the fglrxconfig utility, but i just end up with the same content on both screens.  :(
[07:03] <LinuxDolt> Brunellus: unfortunately, you can't, unless you can remember the exact color scheme they used
[07:03] <seife> yo
[07:03] <seife> whats the link
[07:03] <seife> of "what windows users want"
[07:03] <fr500> balistic22, you may need http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/etherboot/etherboot-5.4.0.tar.gz to boot if your bios does not support pxe
[07:04] <Brunellus> LinuxDolt:  all I want to know is what color it sets for messages I type
[07:04] <Brunellus> it isn't fg, it isn't bg
[07:04] <nickrud> Brunellus, LinuxDot, yes, I had it once where I was red :)
[07:04] <LinuxDolt> Brunellus: you can, however, change the color scheme to what you want via Settings/Preferences/Colors
[07:04] <Brunellus> yes, I've been messing around with that
[07:04] <Brunellus> but what number does it assign to your own messages?
[07:04] <seife> IS ANYONE HELPING ME, THX.
[07:05] <Brunellus> seife:  the FindPage link on the Wiki is your friend
[07:05] <Brunellus> or indeed google.  "what windows users want ubuntu"
[07:05] <nickrud> seife, what was your question?
[07:05] <seife> one guy
[07:05] <LinuxDolt> Brunellus:  it's either 14/30, something like that
[07:05] <Brunellus> awesome.
[07:05] <seife> posted a link that have all the programs that ubuntu uses
[07:05] <nickrud> not saying I have the aswer, just listening :)
[07:05] <seife> the title was something like what windows users want
[07:05] <Brunellus> test
[07:05] <fr500> balistic22, g2g, hope you succeed, otherwise look at netboot at the ubuntu wiki
[07:06] <Brunellus> I think I've got it
[07:06] <Brunellus> noah, darn.
[07:06] <LinuxDolt> whoever told me to check in /etc/alsa for my problem, it ain't there.
[07:06] <nickrud> eh
[07:06] <LinuxDolt> i already checked that before coming in here to ask about it :D
[07:06] <Brunellus> test
[07:06] <Brunellus> yes.
[07:07] <LinuxDolt> Brunellus:  glad i could help
[07:07] <Brunellus> yaaaay.
[07:08] <Brunellus> is there a manpage somewhere that tells me where all these colorbindings are?
[07:08] <cryptomatt> i have a couple of problems with my ubuntu install.. i am running hoary... whenever i do directory renames from within nautilus or deletes.. it crashes.. the percentage of this happening is as high as 25%...
[07:08] <cryptomatt> the second problem is that my desktop doesnt refresh if i copy files on to it, unless i explicitly execute a refresh
[07:08] <cryptomatt> any suggestions??
[07:08] <nickrud> Brunellus, it's in xchat's settings->preferences->interface-colors. I did that once.
[07:08] <conciselinux> when is the next ver going to get released ????
[07:09] <deFrysk> oct afaIk
[07:09] <Brunellus> nickrud:  that shows me a table of colors with numbers
[07:09] <LinuxDolt> does ANYONE have any idea on how to help me?
[07:09] <Brunellus> I was hoping I'd learn what the numbers matched up to
[07:09] <LinuxDolt> Brunellus:  i did it via guess and check...
[07:10] <xmen90s> hey ive done a little bit of searching but i cant seem to find the solution to my problem ... i cant connect to the internet with ubuntu 64bit ( ive tried several solutions ive found on the net, but none work )
[07:10] <xmen90s> does anyone know where i can get some resources on this?
[07:10] <nickrud> pick and test. best adivce: look at the 4 grey colors. I don't remember the exact match, but those matter
[07:10] <deFrysk> Brunellus, /j #xchat
[07:12] <Tzi> Hi =)
[07:12] <Tzi> You're right - Breezy's X is still broken :P
[07:12] <Tzi> That'll teach me
[07:13] <yo2k> hi guys...
[07:13] <ofer0> holla :P
[07:14] <yo2k> i want to setup 2nd eth, how i can do that...
[07:14] <shane> hey guys, what would be my best bet for a dvd building and burning program???
[07:14] <conciselinux> HOW MUCH DOES UBUNTU CD COSTS ???
[07:14] <LinuxDolt> Brunellus:  ehh...  i'm thinking i'm going right back to gentoo after this.  it's the most unstable distro available, but at least i know how it works
[07:14] <shane> conciselinux, i think they ship them for free.....
[07:14] <Brunellus> Go with what you know, I guess, LinuxDolt
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> LinuxDolt,  having sound issues?
[07:14] <Brunellus> I love ubuntu...to bits.
[07:15] <shane> yea it seems pretty nice
[07:15] <Brunellus> although I'm looking into gentoo as a project system
[07:15] <LinuxDolt> Dr_Willis: aye.  ubuntu wants to use my onboard, but i want to use my SB Live!
[07:15] <pestilence> Brunellus: don't waste your time
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> LinuxDolt,  cant disable it in the bios eh? I seem to see this kind of problem quite often mentioned.
[07:15] <Brunellus> pestilence, why
[07:15] <deFrysk> LinuxDolt, turn off your audio in bios to make it work
[07:16] <pestilence> LinuxDolt: how about blacklisting the module for your onboard soundcard
[07:16] <yo2k> i want to setup 2nd nic, how i can do that...
[07:16] <Brunellus> I mean, I like ubuntu....but I'm always interested in what else is going on.
[07:16] <conciselinux> edubuntu ????
[07:16] <pestilence> Brunellus: there's no advantage over ubuntu
[07:16] <conciselinux> can i order it ?
[07:16] <ofer0> gentoo is not for daily use.
[07:16] <LinuxDolt> pestilence: i've thought of that, but i can't seem to find the module definitions
[07:16] <deFrysk> ofer0, yes it is
[07:16] <pestilence> LinuxDolt: /etc/hotplug.d?
[07:16] <Brunellus> still interested in finding out.
[07:16] <ofer0> deFrysk, only for long-term installtions
[07:16] <LinuxDolt> ahhh.  see, i've never used hotplug before
[07:17] <pestilence> LinuxDolt: oops, /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[07:17] <LinuxDolt> pestilence: let's see if this works then
[07:17] <ofer0> using gentoo is a good idea only if you plan to use the same distro for 5 years
[07:17] <deFrysk> ofer0, what does that have to do with dayly use ?
[07:17] <ofer0> deFrysk, COMPILING
[07:17] <Brunellus> the long compile times turn me off....
[07:18] <Brunellus> but I'm just interested in seeing what all the fuss is about
[07:18] <pestilence> Brunellus: i'd be more inclined to experiment with a BSD than gentoo
[07:18] <LinuxDolt> get a good fast computer and give it a decent overclock.  compile times no longer mean anything :D
[07:18] <pestilence> LinuxDolt: yea right.  you must have some *really* powerful machines.
[07:18] <LinuxDolt> get a few fast computers and then use distcc
[07:18] <ofer0> well, you only need to compile these tools: gcc, kernel, package manager, and heavy apps
[07:19] <pestilence> LinuxDolt: you shouldn't need a cluster to run a desktop
[07:19] <ofer0> and i forgot - gnome
[07:19] <ofer0> why to compile x-chat for example?
[07:19] <ofer0> why to compile mplayer, firefox, etc..
[07:20] <LinuxDolt> i should be able to choose exactly what goes into my system from the very beginning too.  udev and hotplug are not mature enough for me to want to be using them yet
[07:20] <luminerd> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=350118
[07:20] <luminerd> Please ?
[07:20] <sam> hi
[07:20] <sam> im new to ubuntu
[07:20] <pestilence> LinuxDolt: synaptic doesn't give you that freedom?
[07:20] <ofer0> LinuxDolt, you can do all the things you do in gentoo, in ubuntu. (without those annoying use flags ofcourse)
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> heh
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> hello sam
[07:21] <ofer0> sam has quit..
[07:21] <deFrysk> so much nonsense about gentoo i havent heard in a long time
[07:21] <kestas> does ubuntu use NX memory?
[07:22] <kestas> that is, does it use the extra security provided by NX memory?
[07:22] <kestas> non-executable memory that is
[07:22] <LinuxDolt> blah.  i know how to use gentoo.  i've been lost since i first downloaded the iso for this one
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> kestas,  that is somnthing i have never heard mentioned.... one way or the other.. or at all.. :P
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> lost?
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> gee its very well documented.
[07:23] <pestilence> LinuxDolt: once you get to know apt, you might like it.  man apt-get
[07:23] <kestas> Dr_Willis, okay, well you know whether ubuntu uses NX memory?
[07:23] <pestilence> LinuxDolt: it's much better than emerge, imo
[07:23] <kestas> Dr_Willis, I dont get what youre saying
[07:23] <ofer0> deborphan is a great solution for un-needed dependencies
[07:23] <pestilence> kestas: he's not talking to you
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> kestas,  i have NOT seen any mention of the 'nx' stuff in any linux disrto or kernel versions at all..
[07:24] <kestas> pestilence, then why did he say 'kestas' before he said it?
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> kestas - it would be a kernel version feature then I guess.
[07:24] <pestilence> hahaha
[07:24] <tjbonzo> I'm trying out ubuntu - mainly because I got tired of Debian lagging (i.e. Xorg, ...), but now I'm trying to install "gcompris", but ubuntu lags Debian unstable - is there a "unstable" repository?
[07:24] <kestas> Dr_Willis, k I see
[07:24] <pestilence> ok, i gotta get outta here.
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> kestas,  heck the thing is barely supported under windows it seems. I enabled the feature.. and have only seen one program ever get in trouble with it. Not sure if thats good or bad.
[07:25] <Brunellus> tjbonzo:  you could try adding the debian repos
[07:25] <Burgundavia> tjbonzo, yes, it is called breezy
[07:25] <Brunellus> but this is generally *not recommended*
[07:25] <Burgundavia> tjbonzo, it is quite unstable right now
[07:25] <dan> I can't open openoffice, when I try to open it in terminal I see this: /usr/lib/openoffice/program/setup.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libfreetype.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:25] <Brunellus> hey Burgundavia, whats this I hear about an eyecandy-friendly new xorg in breezy?
[07:25] <Burgundavia> Brunellus, what do you mean?
[07:26] <Burgundavia> Brunellus, the exa stuff hasn't gone in yet
[07:26] <tjbonzo> Bs: so breezy over debian or take my pick?
[07:26] <Brunellus> ok.  is breezy mostly frozen?
[07:26] <Burgundavia> tjbonzo, both breezy and sid are quite unstable
[07:26] <Burgundavia> Brunellus, sort of
[07:26] <Brunellus> h'm.
[07:26] <Burgundavia> slushy
[07:26] <Brunellus> hahahaah.  I like drinking slushies
[07:27] <Brunellus> not running them on my home box.  so I'll wait for release
[07:27] <cryptomatt> hi everyone
[07:27] <Burgundavia> there is still a lot of new stuff going in, for specific goals
[07:27] <cryptomatt> nautilus crashes in my machine often.. when i delete or rename files or such
[07:27] <PurpleMotion> skalpel:  hai, fscker
[07:27] <skalpel> hai
[07:27] <skalpel> what's up?
[07:28] <PurpleMotion> ssdd, bro
[07:28] <ofer0> http://rar.co.il/files/Rar-1123219541.jpg
[07:28] <tjbonzo> Burgundavia: so if I go with breezy (i'll google for the repos) - is there a way to "pin" just the one package: apt-get -t unstable install gcompris
[07:28] <PurpleMotion> yourself?
[07:28] <skalpel> i am fine, thank you for asking
[07:28] <Burgundavia> tjbonzo, yes
[07:28] <cryptomatt> apparently absence of FAM is the problem, when i try to install FAM through apt-get it says that i should uninstall a lot of other packages, which is mostly everything on my box.
[07:28] <Brunellus> tjbonzo:  apt-pinning works the same as apt-pinning in Debian, I think
[07:28] <skalpel> purplemotion: do you know how to use oidentd?
[07:29] <Burgundavia> ofer0, how does qemu deal with the reboot?
[07:29] <tjbonzo> Brunellus: so does "-t unstable" pull it from breezy or do I do "-t breezy" ?
[07:29] <ilba7r> is there a thread or howto for making mirror image to the home directory <like a backup>
[07:29] <ofer0> Burgundavia, great.
[07:29] <nickrud> Burgundavia, is there a new page that links to breezy's goals?
[07:29] <Burgundavia> tjbonzo, breezy
[07:29] <Burgundavia> ubuntu names their distros
[07:29] <Brunellus> -t breezy
[07:29] <Burgundavia> nickrud, http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BreezyGoals
[07:29] <tjbonzo> cool - thanks much guys...off to play some more
[07:29] <yo2k> i want to setup 2nd nic, how i can do that...
[07:29] <ofer0> Burgundavia, very very fast reboot, without all that bios shit like in vmware..
[07:29] <nickrud> hasn't changed, then
[07:30] <Burgundavia> ofer0, cool
[07:30] <Burgundavia> nickrud, there is a meeting tomorrow to recap on goals
[07:30] <skalpel> how do i change my username and pass in ubuntu?
[07:30] <nickrud> pardon me, it has :)
[07:31] <tjbonzo> skalpel: System->Admin->User and Groups
[07:31] <liran> whats an efficient way of checking in "real-time" when su has been invoked to root?
[07:31] <Burgundavia> skalpel, your password is easy, your username is a little more involved
[07:31] <skalpel> i thought it would be
[07:32] <liran> i mean, other than doing something like "cat /var/log/messages | gerp su"
[07:32] <tjbonzo> skalpel: ahhh...you want to just change your user name but keep all your files/settings?
[07:32] <skalpel> yes
[07:32] <skalpel> same user, just different name / pass
[07:33] <cryptomatt> hi everyone, nautilus repeatedly crashes on my machine.. am using hoary.. this happens after a file delete or a file rename.. not everytime but almost 25% of the time.. any clues?
[07:34] <tjbonzo> skalpel: I've never done it, but in theory it should work (YMMV), you could try it first with a bogus test user - but if you just change the name in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow and /etc/group that should do it
[07:35] <cajun> is anyone having trouble with gtkboard updating?
[07:35] <conciselinux> y is ubuntu good ?
[07:35] <ilba7r> is there a thread or howto for making mirror image of the home directory <like a backup>
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> conciselinux,  its a very well done, and polished desktop focused disrto.
[07:35] <tjbonzo> skalpel: the theory part is that linux really stores the userid, so if you change the userid to user name mapping, it should work
[07:36] <skalpel> how do i request a feature for breezy badger?
[07:36] <Brunellus> skalpel, getting a bit late for breezy now...
[07:37] <skalpel> well, then for a future release. it is really bugging me that ubuntu does not do that and windows does.
[07:37] <ilba7r> skapel what you want to do
[07:37] <Burgundavia> skalpel, what feature?
[07:37] <skalpel> the ability to sort audio file in the file browser by album name, etc
[07:38] <skalpel> it seems like it ought to go along well with integrated disc burning
[07:38] <Burgundavia> that would take some major integration
[07:38] <Burgundavia> best place to ask for that is upstream, with gnome
[07:38] <skalpel> it is a major feature for those of us who like music
[07:38] <skalpel> k
[07:39] <Burgundavia> skalpel, http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/nautilus-list
[07:39] <Burgundavia> that is the list you want to raise it on
[07:39] <skalpel> ty
[07:40] <cajun> i keep getting the following error message when i try to update: "E: gtkboard:  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 9"
[07:40] <benplaut> anyone here know anything about e16 in gnome?
[07:40] <cajun> how can i fix that?
[07:41] <r0d> where do you configure modprobe to see custom modules? /etc/modprobe.d/arch?
[07:41] <Burgundavia> cajun, remove gtkboard, upgrade and then reinstall it
[07:42] <glick> hehe i have 11 computers in the house now
[07:42] <deprave> anyone have a good suggestion on an html editor?
[07:42] <deprave> nothing too fancy etc.
[07:42] <glick> deprave, bluefish
[07:42] <Burgundavia> deprave, screem or bluefish
[07:42] <deprave> roger
[07:42] <deprave> thanks
[07:42] <glick> one of em is a 100mhz pentium wone
[07:42] <IcemanV9> glick: trying to start a business? :p
[07:42] <glick> IcemanV9, hehe actually i am
[07:42] <glick> but not with these computers
[07:43] <glick> i just acquired a p2 running windows 98 today with a dvd drive
[07:43] <glick> figure ill rip out the dvd, use one as a general desktop
[07:43] <glick> use it as a smoothwall firewall
[07:43] <IcemanV9> glick: repair? then, you're falling behind :P
[07:43] <yo2k> how i install squid?
[07:44] <IcemanV9> with 11 PCs
[07:44] <r0d> geez u guys ever hear of vmware lol
[07:44] <glick> IcemanV9, what do you mean repair?
[07:44] <glick> they all work
[07:45] <Burgundavia> cajun, reinstallation of gtkboard?
[07:45] <cajun> yup
[07:46] <Burgundavia> cajun, you running hoary?
[07:46] <IcemanV9> starting a business; ppl dropped off PC @ ur place for repair .. that's what i am aiming for :)
[07:46] <Zaphoid``> Anyone reccoment a good VNC viewer for windows thats OSS?
[07:46] <cajun> i think so
[07:47] <cajun> i haven't upgraded to breezy
[07:47] <IcemanV9> yo2k: try squidtaild? not familiar with what they have for ubuntu
[07:47] <Burgundavia> cajun, report a bug about it
[07:47] <yo2k> IcemanV9, how if squid2.5stable10 ? can ?
[07:47] <Burgundavia> Zaphoid``, tightvnc
[07:47] <cajun> k
[07:47] <Burgundavia> cajun, it is a universe bug, so it goes in malone
[07:48] <mebaran151> yeah, archlinux sucked
[07:48] <Zaphoid``> Burgundavia does that work with the default Ubuntu VNC server?
[07:48] <mebaran151> it doesnt work ..., though abs was a neat portage idea
[07:48] <cajun> nevermind....found the bug reporting tool
[07:49] <Burgundavia> Zaphoid``, vnc is a protocol, like tcp. Many apps speak it
[07:49] <Burgundavia> cajun, that doesn't work
[07:49] <cajun> oh
[07:49] <IcemanV9> yo2k: again, i am not familiar with squid .. i just found them in apt-cache search
[07:49] <cajun> ok...then what shall i do?
[07:49] <Zaphoid``> Thank you Burgundavia
[07:49] <dan> I can't open openoffice, when I try to open it in terminal I see this: /usr/lib/openoffice/program/setup.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libfreetype.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:49] <Burgundavia> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug/+login
[07:49] <yo2k> IcemanV9, thank's...
[07:49] <dan> how do I fix that?
[07:49] <_SD_Keo> I need a little help... The power went out and I need to fsck ---rebuild-tree, but it exits with errorlevel 6 or something..
[07:50] <yo2k> IcemanV9, how i configure 2nd ethernet card ?
[07:50] <IcemanV9> ifconfig
[07:51] <IcemanV9> or .. system > admin > networking
[07:51] <yo2k> my pc setup as server
[07:51] <yo2k> run in text mode
[07:51] <mebaran151> how would I use the alsa drivers I get from cvs?
[07:51] <IcemanV9> ifconfig, then
[07:52] <mebaran151> my snd card is only supported by the patched cvs drivers
[07:52] <Deanodriver> hi
[07:52] <mebaran151> I'd like them to become part of the alsadrivers package
[07:52] <Deanodriver> if i use cfdisk to add a new partition to a hard drive, and set it to type 83, does that set it as ext2 or ext3?
[07:53] <Deanodriver> (bought a new hard drive, trying to partition it)
[07:53] <Deanodriver> :)
[07:53] <ofer0> Deanodriver, i think its EXT3
[07:53] <Deanodriver> ok then
[07:53] <Deanodriver> i'll try it then :)
[07:53] <Deanodriver> thanks
[07:53] <ofer0> :)
[07:54] <Deanodriver> now to edit /etc/fstab :)
[07:54] <Vubuntu> hey anyone using openbox here?
[07:55] <_SD_Keo> I need a little help... The power went out and I need to fsck ---rebuild-tree, but it exits with errorlevel 6 or something..
[07:55] <Deanodriver> how would I set options for a user to write to it? just set umask=000 like with a far32 partition?
[07:56] <Deanodriver> *fat32
[07:57] <_SD_Keo> I need a little help... The power went out and I need to fsck ---rebuild-tree, but it exits with errorlevel 6 or something..
[07:58] <Deanodriver> would this line be fine if i wanted non-root users to write to it?
[07:58] <deprave> in bluefish how do you view the page as it would be seen on the web page
[07:58] <Deanodriver> /dev/hdd1       /files2         ext3    umask=000       0       0
[07:58] <deprave> instead of editing it in raw html
[07:58] <Deanodriver> does bluefish do wysiwyg?
[07:59] <f_newton> no Deanodriver
[07:59] <Deanodriver> could always load it in firefox
[07:59] <f_newton> get nvu
[07:59] <Deanodriver> yeah
[07:59] <f_newton> mozilla has a wysiwyg html editor
[07:59] <Deanodriver> so have i got /etc/fstab properly set up for this new drive? :)
[08:00] <deprave> what's nvu
[08:00] <Deanodriver> wysiwyg html editor :)
[08:01] <^Cricket^> does anyone know how to rebiuld a reiserfs tree?
[08:01] <deprave> whats wysiwyg
[08:01] <Deanodriver> what you see is what you get
[08:01] <f_newton> what you see is what you get
[08:01] <HrdwrBoB> ^Cricket^: use the reiserfs repair tool...
[08:02] <_SD_Keo> What if the tool fails?
[08:02] <jay> Can someone help me convert from linux to windows?
[08:03] <HrdwrBoB> jay: that's not what we do here
[08:03] <HrdwrBoB> what's your problme
[08:03] <Deanodriver> we convert people the other way :P
[08:03] <nickrud> Burgundavia, thanks for the heads up about the meeting, I'll enjoy listening, if I can make it.
[08:03] <jay> I know however I'm asking out of the generiousity of the people here.
[08:03] <jay> generousity*
[08:03] <mejobloggs> hi, my ubuntu keeps locking up all the time. How do i go about fixing it?
[08:03] <Madpilot> hi all - was there a big netsplit about two hours ago?
[08:04] <Burgundavia> nickrud, indeed
[08:04] <f_newton> well get some salt water in a bucket, two butter knives and an electrical outlet... now take off your shoes....
[08:04] <nickrud> heh, and, damn, typing is not talking
[08:04] <HrdwrBoB> jay: what exactly is the problem
[08:04] <Deanodriver> does anyone out there have an idea of what options i should set in /etc/fstab for an ext3 partition if i want users to write to it?
[08:04] <Deanodriver> would umask=000 work?
[08:05] <Deanodriver> (which i have set for a fat32 partition in this system
[08:05] <jay> Well I deleted the windows pertition and windows was preloaded onto my computer.
[08:05] <zaphoid> When I click on system -> Administration -> Shared Folders. Ubuntu is saying that I need samba or NFS installed. Now I have samba installed (I can browse my other network shares on windows computers) Whats up with this?
[08:05] <jay> I don't have any intention of totally getting rid of linux only having multiple OS
[08:05] <Deanodriver> with dualboots, you generally have to install windows first
[08:05] <Deanodriver> iirc
[08:06] <deprave> !nvu
[08:06] <ubotu> it has been said that nvu is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.
[08:06] <jay> That's kind of the problem....
[08:06] <Deanodriver> brb
[08:06] <Deanodriver> reboot
[08:06] <HrdwrBoB> jay: ok, that's easy
[08:06] <HrdwrBoB> ooh
[08:06] <skalpel> irssi
[08:06] <HrdwrBoB> you deleted windows
[08:06] <f_newton> you can do it the other way around Deanodriver but its a lot more work
[08:06] <HrdwrBoB> jay: use the disks that came with your computer to reinstall it
[08:06] <f_newton> thats my solution HrdwrBoB
[08:06] <jay> They didn't.
[08:06] <HrdwrBoB> if it didn't come with disks, go back to where you bought it from
[08:07] <HrdwrBoB> if it's not a valid licensed copy of windows, buy one
[08:07] <f_newton> lol he doesnt have a windows install disk?
[08:07] <jay> Tried that, they said you had to make a recovery disc and that they couldn't do anything.
[08:07] <jay> Heh, yeah right buy a windows cd >.>
[08:07] <jay> Let me get that $200 out of my pocket
[08:07] <f_newton> well jay run ubuntu
[08:08] <f_newton> its a very good os
[08:08] <jay> Not alone when you would also like to play games heh -_-
[08:08] <f_newton> install cedega
[08:08] <skalpel> my computer came with recovery software that does not quit until linux is eradicated
[08:08] <skalpel> im lucky to be using linux as it is. sh. do not tell emachines.
[08:09] <skalpel> i boot in fear for my safety
[08:09] <f_newton> emachines lol
[08:09] <skalpel> and that of my linux partition
[08:09] <f_newton> I have a reconfiguration tool for most emachines
[08:09] <zaphoid> When I click on system -> Administration -> Shared Folders. Ubuntu is saying that I need samba or NFS installed. Now I have samba installed (I can browse my other network shares on windows computers) Whats up with this?
[08:09] <Madpilot> skalpel: what do emachines do to their boxes?
[08:09] <f_newton> hey spanglesontoast how ya doin?
[08:10] <spanglesontoast> I'm ok
[08:10] <spanglesontoast> just managed to get this other machine a mate gave me to work
[08:10] <spanglesontoast> to enter the bios
[08:10] <f_newton> glad to hear it
[08:10] <skalpel> there is a fat32 partition, rather small, that automatically repartitions and restores windows xp if anything is done to it
[08:10] <spanglesontoast> you have to switch the jumper
[08:10] <spanglesontoast> it's kinda silly
[08:10] <f_newton> ? is that a tandy?
[08:10] <skalpel> makes it very difficult to dualboot
[08:10] <spanglesontoast> tandy?
[08:10] <skalpel> and often interferes with the installation of any other os
[08:11] <Madpilot> skalpel: damn. can't you nuke that partition with one of Ubuntu's utils?
[08:11] <^Cricket^> O_o spangles......
[08:11] <^Cricket^> o/
[08:11] <spanglesontoast> hello crick
[08:11] <skalpel> madpilot: someone told me a way but as i still do not have the windows install discs i need i am holding off on it. but yes, i will soon
[08:11] <spanglesontoast> hmm
[08:11] <f_newton> skalpel you can get rid of that .... but you need to turn that bios function off first
[08:11] <spanglesontoast> this processor fan is like a hoover
[08:11] <^Cricket^> yes /me runs ubuntu
[08:11] <_SD_Keo> How many people must I kill to ask one question? -_- the fsck ---rebuild-tree tool failed with an errorcode of 6...
[08:11] <skalpel> f_newton: there is some debate as to whether it really is a bios function, soemoen told me it is just a boot partition that like to stay where it is =)
[08:12] <spanglesontoast> I'm not sure weather or not to have it as a gui server
[08:12] <f_newton> the bios is instructed to look there first and from there there is a pointer to you mbr
[08:12] <spanglesontoast> ah
[08:12] <txsky> ah
[08:13] <f_newton> that was for skalpel
[08:13] <spanglesontoast> ah
[08:13] <spanglesontoast> lol
[08:13] <cafuego> Well, adding 200Mb of some-suid root software that eats 128MB of ram on a server is um....
[08:13] <f_newton> yeah yeah yeah...
[08:13] <zaphoid> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:13] <zaphoid>  when I try to run apt-get install samba
[08:13] <spanglesontoast> hmm
[08:13] <ajmitch> _SD_Keo: the manpage says that an errorcode of 6 means fixable errors left uncorrected..
[08:13] <spanglesontoast> it's just I could use insecure webmin
[08:13] <spanglesontoast> or use vnc
[08:13] <f_newton> some kid is out in the parking lot doing donuts
[08:13] <cafuego> spanglesontoast: vnc through ssh
[08:13] <f_newton> lol idiot
[08:13] <f_newton> daddy must buy his tires
[08:13] <skalpel> f_newton: well someone told me there is a way to flash the bios and remove it but i do not even have a disk drive to perform that function
[08:13] <mebaran151> what version of alsa is in Breezy and which is in Hoary
[08:13] <glick> hey how do i disable those crappy awefull "plunk" sounds whenever i click on something
[08:14] <ajmitch> _SD_Keo: your question is at once rather vague & specific :)
[08:14] <spanglesontoast> lol
[08:14] <mebaran151> I know the one in Hoary works and the one Breezy doesnt
[08:14] <glick> as well as the gnome startup sounds
[08:14] <f_newton> skalpel dont believe that one
[08:14] <f_newton> you are running a custom bios
[08:14] <spanglesontoast> what I love about ubuntu
[08:14] <mebaran151> I dont like the color brown
[08:14] <skalpel> how do you go about removing software from the bios?
[08:14] <spanglesontoast> is theres lots of packages
[08:14] <Deanodriver> hi
[08:14] <Burgundavia> _SD_Keo, I hate to say this, but I don;t think anyone here has the answer. You might want to google it
[08:14] <mebaran151> why cant ubuntu have blue colored themes
[08:14] <skalpel> f_newton: that is what i thought originally
[08:14] <f_newton> its not software
[08:14] <Burgundavia> spanglesontoast, guis on a server is complete insanity
[08:14] <HrdwrBoB> f_newton: yeah even when I was into cars heavily, I didn't do burnouts, $250 a tyre gets old very quickly
[08:14] <mebaran151> what is _SD_Keo's question
[08:14] <Deanodriver> not getting this to mount :|
[08:14] <f_newton> you have to turn that function off
[08:14] <f_newton> so that bios wont perform that operation
[08:14] <ajmitch> Burgundavia: it's a reiserfs issue
[08:14] <Burgundavia> mebaran151, the default gnoem ones are provided
[08:14] <skalpel> f_newton: how do i do that?
[08:15] <mebaran151> Burgundavia, that aren't ugly......
[08:15] <spanglesontoast> it's just a 466mhz
[08:15] <spanglesontoast> that's all
[08:15] <f_newton> I dont know I would have to look at that machine
[08:15] <f_newton> good enough spanglesontoast
[08:15] <spanglesontoast> and the graphics card can actually handle x
[08:15] <mebaran151> Gnome is relaly quite nice when you them it well
[08:15] <ZincX> how can i remove the ~ on my ident ?
[08:15] <f_newton> ubuntu would be the way to go
[08:15] <mebaran151> but I really wish didnt overload all the time
[08:15] <Burgundavia> mebaran151, ubuntu is going to be brown for the foreseeable future
[08:15] <Deanodriver> "VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hdd1."
[08:15] <mebaran151> Burgundavia, I know
[08:15] <mebaran151> Fedora has the color scheme down pat
[08:15] <mebaran151> too bad it doesnt work
[08:16] <f_newton> well I can change that for myself Burgundavia
[08:16] <spanglesontoast> newton
[08:16] <Burgundavia> f_newton, say again?
[08:16] <spanglesontoast> it could end up somewhere else if it's brown
[08:16] <Burgundavia> ajmitch, say again?
[08:16] <f_newton> the earth tones
[08:16] <f_newton> I can change those myself
[08:16] <f_newton> the way it comes is fine with me
[08:17] <spanglesontoast> oh
[08:17] <ajmitch> Burgundavia: _SD_Keo's issue was from running fsck.reiserfs, I gave him an answer just before you said that noone knew
[08:17] <mebaran151> how do I use ALSA cvs drivers
[08:17] <Deanodriver> anyone?
[08:17] <Burgundavia> f_newton, ah, ok. I didn't follow where you were coming from
[08:17] <spanglesontoast> that's why the live doesn't work
[08:17] <Burgundavia> ajmitch, ah, ok
[08:17] <spanglesontoast> it's only got 64mb
[08:17] <spanglesontoast> lol
[08:17] <ajmitch> specifically, using the --fix-fixable flag to fsck
[08:17] <f_newton> I like the boot splash screen that it shows ya not the one ya get
[08:17] <f_newton> you know the nice young ladies looking up with the low cut dresses?
[08:17] <_SD_Keo> I had used the fixable flag, but there are serious errors that needed to be rebuilded..
[08:18] <_SD_Keo> **rebuilt
[08:18] <f_newton> that is one sweet bootsplash screen
[08:18] <f_newton>  but its not the one ya get
[08:18] <ajmitch> _SD_Keo: sorry, I'm just going from what the manpage tells me, if it cannot fix them, then I don't know
[08:18] <glick> is there anyway in the gnome file browser and can get a forward and back button
[08:18] <glick> ?
[08:18] <glick> and also so it doesnt open up a new window at the default size?
[08:19] <glick> just one window, whatever size i make it and forward and backward buttons would be nice
[08:19] <shane_> someones picky
[08:19] <f_newton> 64 meg hmmm well you can probably play pong with it
[08:19] <Burgundavia> glick, change to browser mode
[08:19] <glick> Burgundavia, how do i do that>?
[08:20] <Burgundavia> glick, edit--->prefs
[08:20] <glick> Burgundavia, tjamls
[08:20] <glick> thanks
[08:20] <Burgundavia> glick, 2nd tab, tick "open in browser windows"
[08:20] <shane_> does anyone know of a good dvd maker/copyer for ubuntu????
[08:20] <zaphoid> Is there a GUI configuration tool for Samba in Ubuntu?
[08:20] <HrdwrBoB> shane_: yes, any
[08:20] <zaphoid> shane_ truthfully. I use dvd shrink through WINE :) It's great.
[08:21] <zaphoid> I would love to see dvdshrink ported over to linux.
[08:21] <Burgundavia> zaphoid, install samba and then go to system-->admin-->shares
[08:21] <shane_> HrdwrBoB, all the programs i use only have data dvd
[08:21] <skalpel> is there a replacement cdplayer for ubuntu?
[08:21] <shane_> and i want to put all my aquateen volume 3's i have on avi on to dvd....any ideas?
[08:22] <Madpilot> skalpel: you've noticed that the default one is awful too, right? ;)
[08:22] <zaphoid> Burgundavia, I did that. And set up a share. But when I try to log into that share through windows. It asks me for a username and password. Which I never set up, and neither my linux login or windows login is correct.
[08:22] <skalpel> madpilot: not awful, but not great =)
[08:22] <xmen90s> ive been trying to get the network working on this ubuntu 64bit for like 3 days now ... and no dice
[08:23] <xmen90s> ive googled, searched the forums, etc
[08:23] <glick> browser mode is much better
[08:23] <xmen90s> cant find anything that works for me
[08:23] <Burgundavia> zaphoid, hmm
[08:23] <glick> and now that those crappy sounds are gone
[08:23] <skalpel> madpilot: did you find one that is better?
[08:23] <glick> and i got my nvidia working
[08:23] <glick> its a nice system
[08:23] <Madpilot> skalpel: does yours hang when it hits the end of a CD? and no, I haven't found better. haven't looked, really
[08:23] <xmen90s> does anyone think they could help me, or point me to where i could get some help?
[08:23] <shane_> i cant get my radion 9550 to work :-(
[08:24] <skalpel> madpilot: i have yet to listen to acd all the wya through. i hope it does not hang though
[08:24] <skalpel> goodnight #ubuntu
[08:24] <skalpel> rock, rock on.
[08:24] <Madpilot> skalpel: it probably will... i always seem to be forcekilling mine. see you later
[08:24] <xmen90s> nobody ... ?
[08:24] <Madpilot> xmen90s: checked the wiki?
[08:24] <xmen90s> yeah
[08:25] <xmen90s> i found one thing that seemed to be perfect ... but it didn't work :(
[08:25] <xmen90s> basically, when i install ubuntu, the dhcp stuff doesn't work
[08:25] <xmen90s> if i have the protocol to that, and i try to load a web page it automatically says cant connect
[08:26] <xmen90s> i cant ping other computers on the network
[08:26] <xmen90s> i cant do anything
[08:26] <xmen90s> but ...
[08:26] <spanglesontoast> how good is a ubuntu web server?
[08:26] <xmen90s> if i try to statically assign ip
[08:26] <xmen90s> then i try to load web page ... it sits for like a min, then times out
[08:26] <xmen90s> and
[08:26] <xmen90s> i can ping other computers on the network
[08:26] <xmen90s> i can even ping an ip from outside the network
[08:26] <xmen90s> but cant load pages or anything
[08:27] <xmen90s> its uber weird
[08:27] <zaphoid> xmen90s, check your DNS settings
[08:27] <xmen90s> i checked my router and it gave me some dns addresses
[08:27] <xmen90s> i added those and it didn't work
[08:27] <xmen90s> then
[08:27] <xmen90s> i tried to add the ip of my router instead
[08:27] <glick> how do you remove a software package that was installed via package?
[08:27] <xmen90s> and that didn't wokk either
[08:28] <zaphoid> What is your router's IP addy? And your DNS server?
[08:28] <zaphoid> Also, are you the only computer on this network?
[08:28] <xmen90s> no, there are 4 other computers on the network
[08:28] <xmen90s> my routers ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:29] <xmen90s> the primary and secondary dns's im getting from my router status page, i guess just what the isp sent
[08:29] <zaphoid> Make sure your IP does not conflict with others on the network. Then go in and set your IP to <IP_ADDRESS>  MASK <IP_ADDRESS> GATEWAY <IP_ADDRESS> DNS *Whatever your DNS server is*
[08:30] <balistic22> hey can someone help me out with a net boot i am attempting
[08:30] <balistic22> net boot install for ubuntu
[08:30] <zaphoid> Able to ping other boxes, but not load a webpage definatly sounds like a DNS error to me.
[08:31] <balistic22> hey can someone help me out with a net boot i am attempting to install ubuntu using net boot
[08:31] <xmen90s> well the dhcp assigns ips from <IP_ADDRESS> to .109
[08:31] <zaphoid> Burgundavia, Any ideas on this Samba problem?
[08:31] <wildcowboy> hi
[08:31] <wildcowboy> anybody
[08:31] <balistic22> anyone not busy
[08:31] <xmen90s> thanks zaphoid for listening
[08:31] <balistic22> id appreciate some help
[08:31] <xmen90s> ill try some more dns stuff :)
[08:31] <wildcowboy> i'm not balistic22
[08:31] <wildcowboy> on what?
[08:32] <zaphoid> xmen90s,  Whats your netmask that is given with you use DHCP?
[08:32] <zaphoid> when*
[08:32] <balistic22> hey wildcowboy im doing a netboot and i pretty much have everything set on my xp laptop
[08:32] <xmen90s> zaphoid : Subnet Mask:  <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:32] <zaphoid> If it's <IP_ADDRESS> (Standard for most routers) giving yourself an ip of <IP_ADDRESS> should be fine.
[08:32] <xmen90s> so just a standard one
[08:32] <balistic22> i just need to know how to run the pxe
[08:33] <balistic22> on the other comp
[08:33] <xmen90s> okie dokie, ill be around, thanks
[08:33] <zaphoid> Yea, just use <IP_ADDRESS> NETMASK <IP_ADDRESS> GATEWAY <IP_ADDRESS> DNS *Your DNS server* and it should work.
[08:33] <zaphoid> np
[08:33] <wildcowboy> y don't you just do it the normal way instead of netboot
[08:33] <wildcowboy> i take it you're a newbie, right
[08:33] <balistic22> yeah i guess
[08:34] <wildcowboy> did you download the discs?
[08:34] <balistic22> but my laptop doesnt have a cd rom and i tried everything and netboot install is the only thing that i havent tried
[08:34] <zaphoid> Ok, going to re-ask my question. I installed samba (Default apt-get install samba style) and set up a share. When I try to log into that share from windows it is asking for a username and password. Any ideas?
[08:34] <balistic22> i have the cd
[08:34] <wildcowboy> just do it from the cd
[08:34] <wildcowboy> much easier
[08:34] <HrdwrBoB> zaphoid: yes, you need to use smbpasswd to set users passwords for samba
[08:34] <wildcowboy> are you familiar with linux at all?
[08:34] <balistic22> wildcowboy i dont have a cd driver.. only an external one and my other lap top wont load from it
[08:34] <traveller> what do i need to install in order to watch an encrypted dvd? i can't seem to find libdvdcss
[08:34] <zaphoid> Thanks HrdwrBoB
[08:34] <balistic22> wildcowboy yes i am
[08:35] <xmen90s> zaphoid : did the same thing with fedora ... you just have to set a windows username and link it to your linux username then the password for your linux account will work
[08:35] <ofer0> http://rar.co.il/files/Rar-1123223576.jpg
[08:35] <wildcowboy> interesting
[08:35] <balistic22> wildcowboy ive used ubuntu before i know how it works.. trust me i installed a whole debian system with out 2 floppys
[08:35] <wildcowboy> did you try the help page?
[08:35] <balistic22> yeah but it doesnt explain the pxe
[08:35] <Burgundavia> zaphoid, sorry no
[08:35] <wildcowboy> feasible
[08:35] <xmen90s> woops
[08:35] <xmen90s> heh
[08:35] <xmen90s> :)
[08:35] <balistic22> yup
[08:36] <wildcowboy> do you know the path to find your ip address?
[08:36] <wildcowboy> and all of that stuff?
[08:37] <zaphoid> zaphoid@ubuntu:~$ sudo smbpasswd
[08:37] <zaphoid> Can't load /etc/samba/smb.conf - run testparm to debug it
[08:37] <balistic22> wat do yo umea
[08:37] <wildcowboy> do you know how to locate that info?
[08:37] <xmen90s> hmmm
[08:37] <xmen90s> is smbd and nmbd running?
[08:37] <zaphoid> Yea =/
[08:37] <balistic22> no i dont
[08:37] <PurpleMotion> so now ive been reduced to sitting byt he computer waiting for a pm so i can go pick mouse up from jail
[08:37] <luminerd> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=350118
[08:37] <wildcowboy> okay, going to check something, I will get back to you
[08:37] <luminerd> Please ?
[08:37] <balistic22> k
[08:39] <PurpleMotion> lumi
[08:40] <PurpleMotion> the mouse works when you use the default ubuntu installation, right?
[08:40] <PurpleMotion> luminerd
[08:41] <luminerd> PurpleMotion, yea
[08:41] <balistic22> hmm..
[08:41] <PurpleMotion> the mouse works when you use the default ubuntu installation, right?
[08:41] <luminerd> PurpleMotion, sry
[08:41] <luminerd> PurpleMotion, no
[08:41] <luminerd> PurpleMotion, no no, can't get it working at all
[08:41] <PurpleMotion> ah, so it just doesnt work at all
[08:41] <luminerd> PurpleMotion, not with Ubuntu...works with no problems on Debian, though on Debian nothing else worked
[08:41] <luminerd> PurpleMotion, right
[08:41] <HrdwrBoB> argh
[08:42] <zaphoid> Ahh, found the problem. There is a bug in the Ubuntu shared folders program. It will let the user add an invalid entry by not specifying a name for the samba share. Which in turn confuses the smb server and will not let you load /etc/samba/smb.conf
[08:42] <PurpleMotion> im thinking
[08:42] <HrdwrBoB> luminerd: full dmesg output?
[08:42] <PurpleMotion> im good at thinking
[08:42] <glick> i dont like that that populatiry contest that is installed by default
[08:42] <zaphoid> Where do I report that? Never really reported a bug before =P
[08:42] <glick> how do i disable that>?
[08:42] <glick> i tried to uninstall it but it depends on the base
[08:42] <HrdwrBoB> glick: you can remove the base package - it's simple a meta package
[08:42] <LinuxDolt> BLARGH!  blacklisting got rid of one.  but now i can't seem to get rid of the oss driver...
[08:43] <balistic22> wildcowboy are you there?
[08:43] <glick> HrdwrBoB, it says it will also remove the ubuntu-base
[08:43] <HrdwrBoB> glick: yeah
[08:43] <luminerd> HrdwrBoB, I still haven't been able to get that
[08:43] <glick> HrdwrBoB, wont that uninstall the entire base?
[08:43] <PurpleMotion> luminerd:  look in msg
[08:44] <HrdwrBoB>  It is safe to remove this package if some of the base system packages are not
[08:44] <HrdwrBoB>  desired.  However, it is recommended that you keep it installed, because it is
[08:44] <HrdwrBoB>  used to carry out certain upgrade transitions (such as adding new packages to
[08:44] <HrdwrBoB>  the system).
[08:44] <LinuxDolt> ok... that's it.  i'm just going to turn the thing off from bios.  the windows users will just have to suffer
[08:45] <balistic22> does anyone know how to do a netboot install for ubuntu
[08:45] <Madpilot> !info ubuntu-base
[08:45] <ubotu> ubuntu-base: (The Ubuntu base system), section base, is optional. Version: 0.43 (hoary), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[08:46] <Doonz> hey guys
[08:46] <Madpilot> balistic22: you've seen this? --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[08:46] <balistic22> YEs madpilot
[08:46] <balistic22> I just dont knnow how to set up the pxe
[08:46] <balistic22> i dunno how the other computer recognizes the netboot
[08:46] <glick> can i delete gnome games without havint to remove the base system?
[08:46] <balistic22> is there a floppy i have to make
[08:46] <Doonz> ubuntu run slow on my box. its an amdxp 3000 with 512 ram on a 7200rpm drive with a gf2 as the vid card. what should i upgrade to improve the performance
[08:46] <Madpilot> balistic22: never done a netboot myself, but I know the page exists.
[08:47] <zaphoid> Doonz, thats more than enough hardware to power Ubuntu. You might have a configuration error. What is it "Slow" at?
[08:47] <f_newton> balistic22, you still trying?
[08:47] <balistic22> f_newton yeah
[08:47] <Doonz> switching various programs seems to lag quite a bit
[08:47] <balistic22> f_newton im addictied
[08:48] <zaphoid> Like, switching from say, Firefox to E-Mail?
[08:48] <glick> addicted to what?
[08:48] <Doonz> yeah
[08:48] <balistic22> f_newton help mee pleapseee
[08:48] <Doonz> or just even switching tabs in firefox it get sdelayed
[08:48] <balistic22> f_newton did you gety our burger lol
[08:48] <f_newton> oh yea
[08:48] <f_newton> it was good too
[08:48] <airox> Hi. Anybody got a link to or knows how to preload a copy of firefox like firefox preloader does for Windows ?
[08:49] <balistic22> f_newton sweet
[08:49] <navyn> how can  i remove e17 and get e16 instead?
[08:49] <Doonz> is there a command i can type in terminal that will show how much system resources im using and mebbe you could look at them and mebbe that would help you out
[08:49] <airox> Doonz: top ?
[08:49] <zaphoid> Is this a default ubuntu install? It might be running the standard VGA x driver instead of the NVidia driver. Not sure on that. Sounds to me like it's a problem with your display driver.. That system should be more than enough to power stuff like say, firefox tabs.
[08:49] <zaphoid> Doonz, ps -aux |more
[08:49] <f_newton> balistic22, honestly if I were u I would learn how to use the cli web browser and net install the xserver for sarge
[08:50] <balistic22> f_newton im trying to do a netboot but i dont know if im suppose to make a floppy
[08:50] <drcode> hi all
[08:50] <f_newton> once you got a gui running you would feel a lot better
[08:50] <xmen90s> ok so new news .... in network tools i switched from looking at the lo to the eth0 and it says that it is INACTIVE despite the fact that in the network settings i have eth0 activated!
[08:50] <f_newton> lol
[08:50] <drcode> in vncserver how I can do full screen
[08:50] <drcode> when I type vncserver?
[08:50] <balistic22> f_newton im getting stressed out..
[08:50] <f_newton> well dont
[08:50] <balistic22> f_newton can you just give me instructions on what to do
[08:51] <f_newton> take a few deep breaths
[08:51] <balistic22> *breaths*
[08:51] <abhayks> breaths-2
[08:51] <f_newton> well since this is the beginning of day four on ubuntu for me I will try...
[08:51] <Madpilot> apt-get deep_breath
[08:51] <xmen90s> well you could type "vncserver -geometry 1024x768" if you so desired when starting the server
[08:51] <drcode> than x
[08:51] <balistic22> god bless you f_newton
[08:51] <drcode> IU will try it
[08:51] <f_newton> apt-get multiple_deepbreaths
[08:51] <xmen90s> not a problem
[08:52] <balistic22> lollllllll
[08:52] <f_newton> He does yes balistic22
[08:52] <balistic22> lol
[08:52] <balistic22> f_newton so do we go wtih the netboot install?
[08:52] <f_newton> I am working outside a closed wifi cafe in dallas tx balistic22 ... its hotter n hades out here right now
[08:52] <f_newton> ...
[08:52] <balistic22> lollll wow
[08:53] <f_newton> let me see what I can find
[08:53] <balistic22> f_newton how old are you
[08:53] <xmen90s> anyone... :\
[08:53] <f_newton> lets just say Im almost able to collect social security unless bush raises the age limit
[08:53] <balistic22> LOL
[08:53] <balistic22> you know how old i am
[08:53] <drcode> If I did login into gnome in remote server
[08:53] <balistic22> 18 =/
[08:53] <glick> f_newton, he prollu will
[08:53] <balistic22> and im into linux
[08:53] <drcode> can I do logoff from remote client?
[08:54] <f_newton> yeah rich buttholes always try to keep from paying the poor back what they stole from em
[08:54] <drcode> I can't see the remote server with vncviewer bcz its local
[08:54] <f_newton> different subject though
[08:54] <Nameeater> it seems ubuntu has my speakers around the wrong way, and im 99% sure they are plugged in the right way, is there any software way to switch them around?
[08:54] <f_newton> balistic22, I will go check on something about your problem... hang on
[08:54] <drcode> Can I chose in vncserver to load xfce and not gnome?
[08:54] <balistic22> You got it
[08:55] <xmen90s> wait did you ask if you can log off remotely with vnc?
[08:55] <xmen90s> do you mean from the top bar?
[08:55] <drcode> k
[08:55] <drcode> I did login local when I was at work
[08:55] <drcode> but when I try vncviewer , I Can't get connect
[08:55] <drcode> can I do remote shutdown
[08:56] <drcode> from console?
[08:56] <f_newton> InstallWithFloppiesHowto: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallWithFloppiesHowto
[08:56] <xmen90s> reboot -n
[08:56] <glick> im so happy i finally got a smoothwall machine
[08:56] <f_newton> balistic22, see InstallWithFloppiesHowto: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallWithFloppiesHowto
[08:56] <drcode> reboot -n will do to all linux?
[08:56] <drcode> or onley to xserver?
[08:56] <xmen90s> oh, i meant in terminal
[08:56] <balistic22> f_newton so this external cd rom drive is useless
[08:56] <Madpilot> drcode: do "man reboot" and see
[08:56] <xmen90s> like when i vnc server i just open up a terminal and do that
[08:56] <drcode> thanx
[08:57] <Nameeater> what about shutdown? :|
[08:57] <f_newton> no its not useless but it wont help you boot up an os if its not in the bios boot tree
[08:57] <Madpilot> drcode: or "reboot --help" for a shorter blurb
[08:57] <drcode> k
[08:57] <drcode> and can I tell vncserver to load xfce and not gnome?
[08:57] <zaphoid> Mem:    516500k total, (When I run top)..... I have a gig of ram =/
[08:57] <xmen90s> so can anyone help me with my not being able to connect to the internet program again ... ?
[08:57] <f_newton> balistic22, Did you see the web site addy i POSTED?
[08:57] <balistic22> f_newton i have the sarge installed already
[08:58] <balistic22> YES I DID
[08:58] <balistic22> I DID THAT
[08:58] <balistic22> all of it
[08:58] <balistic22> i have debian
[08:58] <xmen90s> drcode : in .vnc/startup it has what you need
[08:58] <glick> is anyone here from philadelphia?
[08:58] <drcode> thanx
[08:58] <balistic22> glick this aint a dating chatroom
[08:58] <drcode> I will read about it
[08:58] <f_newton> balistic22, that is supposedly the net install for ubuntu
[08:58] <drcode> thanx for the help
[08:58] <f_newton> not deb
[08:58] <balistic22> no its not