[08:46] <Kekke>  I however change the user owning the /user/www folder to www-data I get the correct permissions, but that makes my user unable to sftp to their dir, what do I need to achieve correct permissions on every new user I add?
[08:48] <MonkeyDust> Kekke  #ubuntu-server
[08:48] <dr_willis> Kekke:  i think i saw some examples/questions/answers of doing that on askubuntu.com the other day.
[08:49] <MonkeyDust> Kekke  777 is not a good idea: everyone could change anything and doing so, lock you out
[08:49] <dr_willis> dosent the users need tobe in the  www-data group also?   (ive not had to mess with apache much in the last few years)
[08:49] <Kekke> MonkeyDust: so I've heard
[08:50] <Jpmh> what is the device name of the internal microphone on my laptop?
[08:57] <simpleuser> I have many folders and i'd like that everyone is archived in a rar (or 7z) file called like the folder itself. Do you think it could be possible without making a bash script ?
[09:03] <PoNutz> goodmorning
[09:04] <shmoon> in the chroot tutorial i read to do this /proc /var/chroot/hardy/proc none rbind 0 0 - is it really good to do this, is it safe? can affect environment outside chroot
[09:05] <MonkeyDust> shmoon  is that a server?
[09:05] <PoNutz> If I connect to server with ssh and sometimes without ssh do i still put that key in my ssh config
[09:06] <MonkeyDust> shmoon  and hardy is !eol
[09:06] <shmoon> its a server, iu just copied the line from the tutorial, mine is precsie and quantal
[09:06] <shmoon> MonkeyDust: ^
[09:06] <medwards_> Hey, trying to install aircrack-ng and related tools, but they complain that they've been replaced by iw? How do I run airodump-ng now?
[09:07] <MonkeyDust> shmoon  consider asking in #ubuntu-server
[09:07] <shmoon> its applicable to any environment though
[09:10] <bretolius> i installed rtorrent from apt, but its not generating a .rtorrent.rc file
[09:10] <bretolius> where can I find the default version of that?
[09:11] <bretolius> found it
[09:12] <kiwitinker1>  need to save an edit to a cfg file but it will not let me save because it is owned by root, how can I get around this?
[09:12] <kiwitinker1> right clicking on the .cfg file I get the owner and permissions but cannot change any of these
[09:15] <l057c0d3r> kiwitinker1, what editing program u use
[09:15] <l057c0d3r> try from term  gksu gedit "filename"
[09:15] <l057c0d3r> replace gedit with the text editer u use
[09:15] <dsathe> is it possible to replace an existsing ubuntu installation with ubuntu-gnoem remix ?
[09:15] <dsathe> i want to get rid of all the unity stuff
[09:15] <l057c0d3r> dsathe,  yeah
[09:15] <dsathe> how ?
[09:15] <kiwitinker1> leafpad
[09:16] <l057c0d3r> kiwitinker1, then do gksu leafpad "file"
[09:16] <kiwitinker1> ok
[09:16] <dsathe> l057c0d3r: what would be the cleanest easiest and most fool proof way to do it ?
[09:16] <l057c0d3r> replace file with the file u want to edit..  may have to do full location if not in that folder
[09:16] <kiwitinker1> yep
[09:16] <l057c0d3r> dsathe, hmm..
[09:17] <l057c0d3r> well u could install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[09:17] <kiwitinker1> does anything go in front of gksu?
[09:17] <l057c0d3r> and ubuntu-gnome-default-settings
[09:17] <dsathe> ah ok
[09:17] <l057c0d3r> no gksu will popup a box for root password so u have root access with leafpad to edit the file
[09:18] <l057c0d3r> dsathe, that will install gnome-shell ext
[09:18] <kiwitinker1> ok
[09:18] <l057c0d3r> dsathe, but that will not remove unity...
[09:18] <dsathe> yeah sort of pointless
[09:18] <dsathe> it ends up installing atruckload of bs
[09:18] <l057c0d3r> you will have an option to choose which you use at login.. by selecting the session
[09:18] <l057c0d3r> then u will also probably have to install gdm  and replace lightdm with it
[09:18] <dsathe> yeah yeah i know , i use gnome shell as default anyway
[09:19] <dsathe> the unity thing off for a leaner system
[09:19] <DJHenjin> _cb been back yet?
[09:19] <dsathe> and lightdm is gone
[09:19] <kratoz> not yet i guess
[09:19] <dsathe> i want to get rid og compiz, unity, ubuntuone
[09:19] <l057c0d3r> dsathe, I will have to look up what all you will have to remove after installing all the gnome stuff though to get rid of unity completely
[09:19] <MonkeyDust> !notunity
[09:20] <l057c0d3r> oh ubuntu one is nice.. i have it on my gnome remix install...  that way when i take pictures on my phone.. they just auto upload to my computer
[09:20] <GrygrFlzr> I can't seem to boot the ubuntu live cd without acpi=off, and it seems to hardware block my wifi. Anyone know how I can boot it without acpi=off?
[09:21] <MonkeyDust> dsathe  or simply install a different DE... logout, change, login
[09:21] <l057c0d3r> dsathe, u could try sudo apt-get remove ubuntuone ubuntu-unity-desktop compiz..  and then do a sudo apt-get autoremove
[09:21] <l057c0d3r> but note....
[09:21] <l057c0d3r> it might break something
[09:22] <toyz> hello
[09:22] <toyz> can someone help me fast
[09:22] <l057c0d3r> i have not done it before.. i just backed up my personal files and did a fresh gnome-remix install..
[09:22] <l057c0d3r> and added the gnome3-team ppa
[09:22] <kiwitinker1> thanks heaps lo37, you are a life saver
[09:22] <toyz> how can i set ip settings (DNS, serever, ip adress etc. ) in slacko
[09:23] <MonkeyDust> toyz  what's slacko?
[09:23] <l057c0d3r> MonkeyDust, right but he watned to remove the other stuff to gain hdd space back i believe
[09:23] <dsathe> http://blogs.operationaldynamics.com/paul/opensource/not-unifed-in-12-10-the-quickening this makes some sense
[09:23] <dsathe> trying it out
[09:24] <toyz> small portable distro MonkeyDust
[09:24] <toyz> MonkeyDust: id downloaded ubuntu but im kind in a hurry now
[09:24] <dr_willis> toyz:  perhaps ask in the slacko support channels.forums
[09:24] <toyz> so pls can you help me ????
[09:24] <MonkeyDust> toyz  this is the ubuntu channel, better ask in the slacko channel
[09:25] <dr_willis> make me wonder how well the disrto is made.. if it dosent use dhcp by default. or have an obvious settings icon/menu item for basic settings like that
[09:28] <carrera> Greetings!  :)
[09:28] <brontosaurusrex> dr_willis, why should it use dhcp by default?
[09:28] <dr_willis> because that would make sence for most people
[09:29] <brontosaurusrex> ok
[09:29] <MonkeyDust> :)
[09:29] <MonkeyDust> toyz  slacko is a puppy fork or so, I read here
[09:29] <dr_willis> reverse the question.. and ask why should it not use dhcp by default... ;)
[09:30] <brontosaurusrex> well, depends on the amount of "finnish" that the distro is after
[09:31] <MonkeyDust> toyz  30+ people in #puppylinux
[09:31] <dr_willis> Puppy linux - is perhaps one of the most odd-ball disrtos out there.
[09:31] <brontosaurusrex> actually i'd go with something that resembles osx here (mountain lion), where dhcp is default, but you can easily just type in your custom ip
[09:31] <dr_willis> it should definatly have some network-config menu item/icon somewhere :) at least most puppy variants do
[09:31] <MonkeyDust> brontosaurusrex  'easy' depends on how skilled the user is
[09:32] <brontosaurusrex> dunno what ubuntu is using this days
[09:32] <brontosaurusrex> MonkeyDust, true
[09:33] <l057c0d3r> kiwitinker1, your welcome
[09:33] <carrera> dr_willis, Hi
[09:36] <MacroMan> Need some help with iptables. I am setting up a very simple set of rules. Allow ssh, http & https like so: http://pastie.org/7628184 but this setup locks out ssh access. Why?
[09:37] <MonkeyDust> MacroMan  looks like "drop all" is the culprit
[09:38] <l057c0d3r> macroman i myself like to use gufw to manage my iptables
[09:38] <dr_willis> so if you only have a ssh and web server going... what is the rules actually blocking?
[09:38] <MacroMan> MonkeyDust, But I'm specifically allowing ssh traffic. My understanding is that when a rule is matched it stops processing
[09:39] <MacroMan> dr_willis, Blocking everything except ssh, http & https.
[09:39] <MacroMan> a basic webserver setup
[09:39] <dr_willis> MacroMan:  right.. and if you dont have any other services going... so whats to block?
[09:39] <MonkeyDust> MacroMan  i guess 'drop all' overrides everything
[09:39] <dr_willis> i guess in case some rogue services get installed? ;)
[09:40] <dr_willis> misconfigured services ment for the internal network
[09:40] <MacroMan> If the rules look OK I'm thinking the port may change from 22 once I'm inside the data centre. It's a brand new server. All I've done is installed a lamp stack.
[09:43] <MacroMan> dr_willis, the whole point in a firewall is to block ports you don't need open. The question should be, why not block everything else?
[09:44] <jrib> MacroMan: does ssh work when you disable iptables?  Those rules should be ok
[09:48] <MacroMan> I can access fine once the tables have been flushed
[09:48] <kishan> can anyone help me there
[09:49] <MacroMan> kishan, Maybe. Ask your question. Don't ask to ask.
[09:49] <kishan> my ubuntu is not updating well so plz help me.?
[09:50] <MacroMan> jrib, I'll get hold of the data centre to see if they have any suggestions.
[09:50] <jrib> MacroMan: and right now sshd is listening on port 22?
[09:51] <kishan> how can u help me..please suggest?
[09:52] <kishan> is anyone dere to help me?
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> !details | kishan
[09:54] <mouthwash> i'm trying to install "ufo: alien invasion" but the download doesn't work, repo is already added to the list. got error failed to download package files. any ideas anybody?
[09:56] <cromag> hi - is it possible to use an internal + pci-e graphics card at the same time in 12.10 ?
[09:57] <snuggl> cromag: multi monitor works quite bad, but it is totally possible as long as its not any hardware limitations
[09:58] <cromag> snuggl: ok - i do have multimonitor right now using the 2 plugs in the pci-e and that works quite fine. I just want an ekstra screen on the internal graphics card as well. Can you point me somewhere perhaps ?
[09:58] <kishan> ok...i have problem while i go  for updating  for blackubuntu
[09:58] <kishan> ver is 12.04
[09:59] <DJones> kishan: blackbuntu isn't a supported version of Ubuntu in this channel
[10:00] <kishan> ok...so from where i can get assistance..friend
[10:00] <kishan> ?????????/
[10:00] <DJones> kishan: You'll probably need to check their website to find their support channels
[10:01] <DJones> !alis | kishan You may find a channel using the service bot,
[10:01] <warren-hill> kishan: try #blackbuntu on server irc.reapersecurity.net for support
[10:01] <kishan> thanks  dude.......
[10:02] <cromag> kishan: #blackbuntu
[10:02] <cromag> http://www.blackbuntu.com/
[10:02] <cromag> ah it's on a different network it seems
[10:02] <kishan> ok  i got it.
[10:03] <cromag> hmm is it a different one ?
[10:03] <kishan> so.....?
[10:03] <kishan> cromag???///
[10:03] <cromag> yes ?
[10:04] <kishan> cromag:  lates ver. of blackbuntu?
[10:06] <keith_> Ubuntu12-10 AMD FX-4170 processor.
[10:08] <AndroUser2> (AndroUser2) Can you tell me why * is used in CSS style sheet #ABC *{}
[10:08] <snuggl> #ABC is an ID, space means child-to, * means all
[10:09] <snuggl> så thats a selector for "All children to the id #ABC"
[10:09] <snuggl> so*
[10:09] <drasko> hi all, how to start udhcpc upon boot, before network interfaces are up *as they have to use it)?
[10:10] <CKLMN> i want to download v.13.10 and i dont know how , can u help me ?
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> CKLMN  you mean 13.04
[10:11] <CKLMN> MonkeyDust, no i mean 13.10 beta
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> CKLMN  you mean 13.04 beta
[10:11] <CKLMN> MonkeyDust, ok i mean 13.04 then ;p
[10:11] <keith_> Ubuntu12-10 AMD FX-4170 processor.  Firefox crashes when trying to log on to ANZ Bank (Australia) internet banking. I have two other banks but have no problems logging on to those. This is the first time I have tried logging onto ANZ. Can anyone offer any help?
[10:12] <MacroMan> jrib, Sorry, was on break. sshd must be listening, because as soon as iptables is flushed I can ssh fine.
[10:12] <jrib> MacroMan: that doesn't imply it's on port 22
[10:12] <mouthwash> if you can't download a package and you've got the repos, is there any fix, or is the package just not there?
[10:12] <MacroMan> Hmm. True. It is just a default installation, but I didn't configure it, so it could be on a different port.
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> CKLMN  scroll down : http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/04/05/ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail-beta-2-released/
[10:13] <CKLMN> thanks
[10:13] <Lukemob> Hello guys, I have a serious problems getting my wifi usb adaper to work on my pretty new Ubuntu 12.10
[10:13] <jrib> MacroMan: check :)
[10:13] <CKLMN> MonkeyDust, do u know if amd proptietory drivers are fixed on 13.04 ?
[10:13] <AndroUser2> Sorry got disconnected
[10:13] <MacroMan> jrib, but I don't specify a different port to ssh to it. I just do ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:14] <drasko> hi all, how to start udhcpc upon boot, before network interfaces are up *as they have to use it)?
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> CKLMN  no
[10:14] <AndroUser2> Can you elaborate?
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> CKLMN  i mean: don't know
[10:14] <Lukemob> It's a few days of searching already spent but nothing.. a few people seem to experience same problem, but never got this solved :-(
[10:14] <CKLMN> MonkeyDust, ok thank you for your time
[10:14] <Lukemob> Today I have just found this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1846181&highlight=netgear+wna1000m
[10:14] <thufir_> lol, I installed ubuntu onto another system but seem to have forgotten, or mistyped, my password.  no gui, just console.  how do I get the available users?
[10:15] <Lukemob> My USB wifi is just Netgear WNA1000M
[10:15] <jrib> MacroMan: check server-side to verify
[10:16] <AndroUser2> Can you please elaborate why * is used in CSS, #abc *{}
[10:16] <sebian> hello
[10:16] <jrib> AndroUser2: /join #css
[10:16] <sebian> do you like sex ?
[10:16] <sebian> there is some woman here ?
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> sebian  wrong channel
[10:16] <sebian> so where ?
[10:16] <jrib> sebian: not here.
[10:17] <Lukemob> Can anybody help me, please.. this is probably the last place where I could get some more info
[10:17] <sebian> telle me where
[10:17] <thufir_> how do I know the "super user" login name?
[10:18] <AndroUser2> Please reply guys, I am stuck with CSS code
[10:18] <Lukemob> AndroUser2, wrong place!
[10:18] <kewel> fresh install of lubuntu 12.04 -- chromium was installed and updated (25).. anyone know how to get flash player working?
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> thufir_  if you mean su, it means switch user ; or do you mean root ?
[10:18] <mattnie> thufir_: isn't it root?
[10:18] <kewel> chmod flashplayerplugin.so?
[10:18] <AndroUser2> Lukemob thanks, do you know the channel where I can ask my issue
 AndroUser2: /join #css
[10:19] <kewel> libflashplayer.so rather
[10:19] <thufir_> there's no root in ubuntu
[10:19] <MacroMan> jrib, Got the support team at the data centre checking now.
[10:20] <thufir_> mattnie: I mean, you can't just login as root.  I tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword  but it doesn't work for me.  I just get the login prompt, but don't know the user name.
[10:20] <AndroUser2> Thanks lukemob
[10:20] <jrib> !root | thufir_
[10:20] <thufir_> jrib: I am not trying to get the password, I'm trying to get the ****user**** name
[10:21] <jrib> thufir_: what user name?
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> thufir_  what do you mean by 'super user'? the login name?
[10:21] <jrib> thufir_: ls /home
[10:21] <thufir_> jrib: exactly.  I just installed and forgot the user name I used.  hence, I cannot login as I mistyped, or something, the user name.
[10:21] <becom33> I have a issue with nvidia when I run nvidia-settings it gives me a popup saying run just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root . but when I do that again its giving me the same error
[10:21] <GrygrFlzr> thufir_, by superuser you mean 'root'?
[10:21] <thufir_> GrygrFlzr: I mean the first user you create when you install.
[10:22] <becom33> anyone for me ?
[10:22] <thufir_> I just installed 12.10 a second ago, but forgot, or mistyped, the user name which I created.  How do I find out what that user is?
[10:23] <jrib> thufir_: ls /home
[10:23] <thufir_> jrib: I cannot login.
[10:23] <dsathe> hey l057c0d3r it worked
[10:23] <dsathe> off loaded a load of cruft
[10:23] <jrib> thufir_: use recovery mode or log in as guest if that is available to you
[10:24] <mattnie> thufir_: or use a live cd and look up the user
[10:24] <thufir_> there's no guest.  just console.  I'm trying https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword but I just get console.
[10:24] <dsathe> one problem now , i had it even before the great purge
[10:24] <jrib> thufir_: use recovery mode
[10:24] <mattnie> thufir_: if you have console than "cat /etc/passwd"
[10:25] <dsathe> when i go to empathy accounts and says authorise with google,facebook etc , it just ends up blank , i cannot seem to add my accounts :(
[10:25] <becom33> anyone for me ?
[10:25] <becom33> I have a issue with nvidia when I run nvidia-settings it gives me a popup saying run just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root . but when I do that again its giving me the same error
[10:25] <dsathe> any solution to that ?
[10:25] <thufir_> from recovery mode, there's no /home.  let me boot again into the recovery mode via cd.  there was no /etc/passwd because of how it mounts.
[10:25] <Lukemob> Guys, can anybody help me out with drivers issue, please? I'm wondering about downgrading to 12.04 if that helps..
[10:25] <dsathe> becom33: run 'sudo nvidia-xconfig'
[10:25] <dsathe> you need to run it for it to create a base xorg.conf file
[10:25] <becom33> dsathe, I did and I and rebooted the machine
[10:25] <dsathe> ada
[10:26] <dsathe> aha
[10:26] <jrib> thufir_: how does it mount exactly...?
[10:26] <becom33> still nvidia-settings gives me the same error
[10:26] <thufir_> when I put the cd in,  I get an option to "rescue a broken system" and go from there.  Jrib, it mounts, err, one sec..
[10:26] <dsathe> can you try 'cat /etx/X11/xorg.conf'
[10:26] <jrib> thufir_: I'm not familiar with that, but you can select "recovery mode" from the grub menu without using a cd
[10:26] <l057c0d3r> dsathe, good :-)
[10:26] <dsathe> l057c0d3r: see post about empathy !
[10:27] <dsathe> cant add accounts, i dunno some update a bit back messed it up
[10:27] <becom33> dsathe, no
[10:27] <thufir_> jrib: hmm, ok. I'm in "rescue mode" with the cd at the moment.  let me tell you the output in a sec, and then I'll go back to grub, please.
[10:27] <becom33> :/
[10:27] <dsathe> becom33: that means you xorg.conf file was never created
[10:28] <l057c0d3r> dsathe, i had that issue with facebook a while back.. but it fixed instelf
[10:28] <l057c0d3r> do u have goa installed
[10:28] <l057c0d3r> and gir1.2-goa
[10:28] <dsathe> lemme see
[10:28] <becom33> dsathe, give me a minet let me reboot and come
[10:28] <dsathe> surprissing goa was
[10:28] <l057c0d3r> dsathe, might want to run a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:28] <dsathe> but mpc accoutn manager was not
[10:29] <l057c0d3r> followed by a sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:29] <dsathe> yeah did that cleared up all conf fikles too
[10:30] <l057c0d3r> and a word of advice stay away from the pre released updates..  they WILL break stuff eventually..
[10:30] <thufir_> I'm in a mode like:  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-boot-ubuntu-linux-rescue-mode/  and see :  device to use as root file system 1.) /dev/sda 2.) /dev/sa5 3.) /dev/dur2/root and few others.  this is "rescue mode" from a cd.
[10:30] <dsathe> l057c0d3r: anyway i have to use a custom kernel , the default sucks
[10:30] <l057c0d3r> really...
[10:30] <dsathe> atleast for me ,
[10:30]  * l057c0d3r has no problems with the default on his setup.. but everyones system is different
[10:31] <dsathe> compile the kernel for the i7 3rd gen with the righ compiler optimisation cflags, replace cfq with bfs, and put int rt preeempt 1khz with optimisations for the processor at hand
[10:32] <dsathe> ck patches ;)
[10:32] <l057c0d3r> ahh yeah..  probably made it a bit snappier
[10:32] <dsathe> also for my work i need userspace cgroups
[10:32] <dsathe> much snappier
[10:33] <l057c0d3r> dsathe, any luck with that google account
[10:33] <thufir_> I selected /dev/sda and to execute a shell in the installer environment and am at a prompt.  pwd gives / and whoami gives /bin/sh whoami: not found.  so, dunno who I am.  LOL.  cat /etc/passwd give root and installer.  I think I'm in the wrong mountpoint or something?
[10:33] <dsathe> lemme try
[10:33] <l057c0d3r> you will notice that there are two online accounts as well with the gnome remix
[10:33] <dsathe> yeah
[10:34] <dsathe> brb
[10:34] <l057c0d3r> not sure.. but i did a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop-defaults as well
[10:34] <jrib> thufir_: just use recovery mode on your install's grub menu instead of the cd
[10:34] <l057c0d3r> or something like that
[10:34] <jrib> thufir_: or actually boot the live cd if you prefer like someone else suggested
[10:34] <l057c0d3r> or was it settings-defaults.. i dont know
[10:34] <l057c0d3r> been soooo long now
[10:34] <becom33> ok now I have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf but still nvidia-settings gives me "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[10:34] <becom33> dsathe,
[10:35] <thufir_> jrib: well, I logged into another option and found /etc/passwd and see that I created "super_duper_user" so I should be able to reset that password, I hope :)
[10:35] <jrib> thufir_: ok
[10:36] <becom33> anyone for me ?
[10:37] <thufir_> all fixed.
[10:37] <thufir_> jrib: thanks.  and thanks to all.
[10:40] <Ben`> i have a problem with my ubuntu
[10:40]  * becom33 anyone for me ?
[10:40] <becom33> ok now I have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf but still nvidia-settings gives me "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[10:41] <Ben`> i installed ubuntu but now i can't find my start menu anymore, any help?
[10:41] <l057c0d3r> ha
[10:41] <l057c0d3r> err....
[10:41] <l057c0d3r> unity??  xfce??/ lxde??
[10:42] <Ben`> ubuntu
[10:42] <l057c0d3r> desktop environment..
[10:42] <CKLMN> i want to know how i can help to the development of ubuntu
[10:42] <Ben`> l057c0d3r: windows
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> Ben`  is it with the bar on the left? if yes, that's unity
[10:42] <Ben`> yes i see a bar
[10:43] <Ben`> i want to open start menu with all my programs
[10:43] <MonkeyDust> Ben`  click on the ubuntu icon on to
[10:43] <MonkeyDust> top*
[10:43] <Ben`> ok, one sec
[10:43] <Ben`> thank you MonkeyDust
[10:43] <Ben`> but i don't see all my old programs?
[10:44] <Ben`> i had dreamweaver and internet explorer in my start menu before
[10:44] <CoolCoder> Can i cleanup /var/tmp and /var/cache by deleting all files in it? is it safe? how to do in terminal
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> Ben`  , below, you see smaller icons, explore them
[10:44] <Ben`> ok
[10:44] <CKLMN> i want to know how i can help to the development of ubuntu
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> CKLMN  #ubuntu-app-devel
[10:45] <CKLMN> thnx
[10:45] <Ben`> i still dont see my programs from old start menu
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> Ben`  now's the time to get familiar with the new interface
[10:46] <Ben`> i will try, thank you for tips
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> Ben`  click here and there
[10:46] <Ben`> where is there?
[10:47] <Ben`> oh i found it
[10:47] <thufir_> if I install ubuntu 12.10 server, and then xfce4, how do enable graphical boot and login?
[10:48] <dr_willis> thufir_:  install the xubuntu-desktop package and it should pull in all needed files to do that
[10:48] <dr_willis> thufir_:  lightdm is the gui login manager normally used
[10:49] <CoolCoder> Is it safe to delete all files inside folders /var/tmp /var/cache /var/log ?
[10:49] <becom33> ok now I have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf but still nvidia-settings gives me "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[10:49] <dr_willis> CoolCoder:  i wouldent touch /var/cache
[10:50] <CoolCoder> can delete others?
[10:50] <dr_willis>  /var/tmp is empty here
[10:50] <dr_willis> and you can delete the old log files.
[10:50] <CoolCoder> ok
[10:51] <CoolCoder> old log giles .1 .2 .3 .... .x right?
[10:51] <CoolCoder> files*
[10:51] <dr_willis> yes
[10:52] <thufir_> dr_willis: thanks
[10:52] <l057c0d3r> becom33, are u sure that u are actually using the binary driver..
[10:52] <l057c0d3r> i know you need generic headers installed
[10:52] <becom33> l057c0d3r, no :/
[10:53] <l057c0d3r> i myself do not know a whole lot about nvidia.. i've always had ati systems
[10:53] <l057c0d3r> have you checked out the binary howto guide
[10:53] <becom33> give me hand if u can
[10:53] <l057c0d3r> !nvidia becnfecn
[10:53] <Ben`> becom33: What happened when you ran `nvidia-xconfig` as root?
[10:53] <l057c0d3r> blah  !nvidia | becom33
[10:54] <Ben64> you need to start the line with the trigger, you can't have it in the middle
[10:55] <Ben`> becom33: pastebin your xorg.conf please.
[10:55] <Ben64> shouldn't even need an xorg.conf
[10:55] <l057c0d3r> heh righ
[10:55] <l057c0d3r> !nvidia | becom33
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: some displays need t, especially if they have weird or zero EDID
[10:56] <Ben64> hence "shouldn't"
[10:56] <Inspiral> hey guys, im trying to use jockey to install additional drivers, however, I get 'The program 'jockey-gtk' is currently not installed.' and on apt-get install jockey-gtk i get 'jockey-gtk is already the newest version.'
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: my 32" screen sets a fantastically high res then has huge text, makes it unusable, so I control it with xorg.conf (makes reinstalls easier too)
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: decent screens will autoconfigure and play right
[10:58] <DJones> Inspiral: Its now included in Software & Updates
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Inspiral: try:  gksudo jockey-gtk
[10:59] <dr_willis> Inspiral:  you on 12.10? or what ?
[10:59] <Inspiral> 12.10 yes, gksudo doesnt do anything, nor return any ouput
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Inspiral: try running it from ALT+F2
[10:59] <DJones> Inspiral: Its now included in Software & Updates, jockey-gtk doesn't exist in 12.10
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> !info jockey-gtk quantal
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> DJones: ^
[11:00] <Inspiral> ActionParsnip: gives me command not found, maybe my $PATH is screwed up ?
[11:00] <becom33> Ben`, sorry I got disconnected http://postimg.org/image/95yd27sjt/
[11:00] <DJones> ActionParsnip: Yeah, but it doesn't do anything, it give an error when you try running it & tells you to install it even though you can already have installed it
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> DJones: it still exists
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Inspiral: what is the output of:  echo$PATH
[11:01] <becom33> thats what happens when I ran `nvidia-xconfig` as root
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Inspiral: with a space
[11:01] <Inspiral> echo $PATH
[11:01] <Inspiral> /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games
[11:01] <Inspiral> looks ok to me
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Inspiral: looks fine, which video chip do you actually have
[11:01] <l057c0d3r> becom33, did u check out that guide??
[11:02] <Inspiral> radeon hd 4850, I am trying to install via software centre
[11:02] <becom33> l057c0d3r, Im sorry I got disconnected
[11:02] <l057c0d3r> its ok
[11:02] <becom33> sould give me the link again
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Inspiral: those GPUs have issues in Quantal
[11:02] <l057c0d3r> !nvidia | becom33
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Inspiral: you'll need the legacy ppa
[11:02] <Inspiral> that might explain the blank screen i had previously then
[11:02] <waqs> hi all
[11:02] <Inspiral> lovely
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Inspiral: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[11:03] <Inspiral> will check it out, thanks
[11:03] <waqs> i'm trying to use pantheon-greeter with xubuntu 12.10, but i get a black screen on boot
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Inspiral: known issue, the xorg in Quantal and Precise hates 2xxx to 4xxx Ati GPUs
[11:03] <waqs> has anyone come across this before?
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> !info  pantheon-greeter
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> waqs: are you using Elementary OS?
[11:06] <waqs> nah, using xubuntu
[11:06] <waqs> i really like the login screen :p
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> waqs: may help http://askubuntu.com/questions/257470/can-i-replace-the-default-login-screen-for-the-pantheon-greeter
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> waqs: I'd ask in the elementary OS channel, we cannot support their packages here
[11:06] <Simone80> ciao
[11:06] <Simone80> 1list
[11:07] <Simone80> !list
[11:07] <Inspiral> so i installed jockey via the software centre and it still it still tells me its not installed so ill check out that ppa ActionParsnip cheers,
[11:07] <DJones> ActionParsnip: In Ubuntu 12.10, jockey-gtk has been superseded by software-properties for managing third-party driver configuration. So, to access this feature, open the terminal and run this command gksudo software-properties-gtk Taken from http://askubuntu.com/questions/234799/i-installed-jockey-gtk-but-how-do-i-run-it (Just for info)
[11:07] <waqs> thank you, ActionParsnip
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> DJones: the package still exists, you said it didn't exist
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> DJones: nothnig about being superceeded or anything like that
[11:10] <DJones> ActionParsnip: Fair enough, it exists, but it appears to be broken and doesn't actually do anything apart from you say its not installed & that you have to install it
[11:10] <DJones> s/you/to/
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> DJones: oh absolutely
[11:11] <nabblet> hi, what's the difference between network-manager-openconnect and network-manager-openconnect-gnome?
[11:12] <DJones> ActionParsnip: Appears the only way to get to it is using the software-properties-gtk package rather than jockey-gtk, although I think jocket-text still works
[11:12] <Inspiral> i ran jockey-text it didnt work
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> DJones: sweet, will remember for later. I just use apt-get personally :)
[11:12] <DJones> :)
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[11:18] <BluesKaj> hi ActionParsnip , how goes it ?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: not bad, fighting office365 today
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> fun
[11:21] <Solupus> hey guys, how come http://www.wampserver.com/en/ says that apache 2.2.2 isn't supported
[11:21] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, do the documents created in office 365 work with libreoffice
[11:21] <Solupus> openssl isnt supported*
[11:21] <histo> Solupus: isn't wamp a windows product?
[11:21] <Solupus> on my ubuntu 12.04 lts i have apache 2.2.22 and openssl is supported
[11:22] <Steeler> !ask
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> Solupus  linux has lamp, better use that -- windows support in ##windows
[11:22] <Steeler> !patience
[11:22] <Solupus> right, but im trying to match production with developing
[11:23] <MacroMan> Is the default behaviour for OUTPUT iptables to DROP?
[11:23] <MacroMan> or to ACCEPT?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: not sure, its an email system we use at work instead of exchange. Not too bad
[11:26] <nabblet> MacroMan: i think ACCEPT
[11:26] <nabblet> MacroMan: but you can look it up in your system
[11:26] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, ok , my MS knowledge is getting worse and worse :)
[11:27] <nabblet> MacroMan: use 'iptables -L'
[11:27] <Nmbr1> MacroMan: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/iptables-default-output-policy-179408/
[11:28] <Nmbr1> MacroMan: this is a better link http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/03/iptables-inbound-and-outbound-rules/ the default policy for a chain is ACCEPT
[11:31] <basss> hello, is anyone familiar with a software that can monitor services and notify me whenever a service has crashed ?
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> basss  conky maybe ?
[11:32] <muelli> systemd :>
[11:34] <basss> MonkeyDust i just looked at it, its pretty graphical. Does it run on servers  ?
[11:34] <carldani> Hi!
[11:34] <basss> muelli can you link me please ?
[11:34] <muelli> basss: no
[11:35] <basss> muelli thanks
[11:35] <muelli> np
[11:35] <histo> !systemd | basss not sure how this helps?
[11:36] <muelli> otherwise there is the obvious daemontools by djb.
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> basss: nagios
[11:36] <carldani> Is there a way to download outdated security updates? E.g. dnsutils 1:9.7.0.dfsg.P1-1ubuntu0.8 (version directly before the current security update for lucid).
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> basss: could even use ps -ef and make a system to alert if the service is not found running
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> basss  an old link (11.10) http://www.telnetport25.com/2012/01/installing-nagios-on-ubuntu-server-11-10-then-monitoring-windows-and-exchange-serverspart-1configuring-ubuntu-for-the-installation-of-nagios-core/
[11:37] <muelli> carldani: apt-get install dnsutils=9.7.0.dfsg.P1-1ubuntu0.8  might work if that package is still referenced from the index.
[11:37] <basss> MonkeyDust thanks
[11:38] <basss> ActionParsnip just checking it out
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> basss  this is more recent http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1986743
[11:38] <carldani> muelli: that package is not even present on the ftp server anymore, otherwise I'd have downloaded the deb directly.
[11:39] <basss> MonkeyDust great, reading it now
[11:40] <jbates58> hi all. just trying to edit my fstab file (im new to linux) and want to make sure i have it right before doing it. as i have done it before, and it wouldnt boot, and i had to re-image the OS. the string i have entered is:       UUID=<uuid of drive here> /media/Odroid \Storage \Drive ntfs noauto
[11:40] <jbates58> is that correct, i want it so that if i remove the drive, it re-mounts back to the same location
[11:41] <monaco> Hi there I read out there that Ubuntu server is for 5 years does that means after 5 years I need to pay something ??
[11:41] <Ben64> jbates58: probably not
[11:41] <bazhang> !eol | monaco
[11:41] <jbates58> ok. where did i go wrong?
[11:42] <simplexion> jbates58, are you trying to automount a usb drive to the same location?
[11:42] <Ben64> jbates58: i'm not sure if "ntfs" works there, if you want it auto, why noauto?, and what is "\Storage \Drive"
[11:42] <Romordriel> salut
[11:43] <jbates58> yes, but i dont want it to auto mount, as every time it does, it keeps adding an underscore to the mount point, and my download program cant see it, and i end up with /media foull of usless folders
[11:43] <simplexion> @Ben64, ntfs will work there
[11:43] <simplexion> jbates, with automount it should only create the folder while the drive is present
[11:43] <Romordriel> Is there a french guy (or woman) ?
[11:43] <jbates58> i want the drive label to be Odroid Storage Drive, so inorder to have the spaces in linux, i need to use a \ like Odroid \Storage \Drive4
[11:43] <simplexion> If you give the drive a label it should always mount on the same directory
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> jbates58: if you add it in fstab, it will mount the same way each time
[11:44] <monaco> ubottu: aha thank you verymuch
[11:45] <simplexion> jbates58, I think you can place quotes around the path instead in fstab
[11:45] <jbates58> ActionParsnip, thats what i want it to do, so i can plug and unplug at will, and it goes back to the same location, so thatmy downloader con see it no problems after transferring the data off it. but im having heaps of trouble woking out how to do it. i have asked for help before, and everyone justdirects me to the ubuntu guide.
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> jbates58: run:  sudo blkid   and you will get the UUID
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> jbates58: of the USB partition
[11:46] <r4f3> Hello there. Is there anyway of getting 64bit kernel in a host with 32bit kenrel?
[11:46] <jbates58> yep, done i have that
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> jbates58: what file system is the partition using?
[11:46] <jbates58> ntfs
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> jbates58: ok, if you want to share that via samba at any point you will have issues
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> jbates58: just a side note
[11:47] <simplexion> Why, ActionParsnip?
[11:47] <jbates58> i would like to share a folder via samba for a black hole, but i can use a folder on the desktop if need be
[11:47] <simplexion> I've never had issues
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> simplexion: permissions and so forth, it can be an ass
[11:48] <Ovro> Hey guys, I'm about to convert to Linux after many years as a Windows user. ;)
[11:48] <Ovro> Can Steam run Football Manager?
[11:48] <Ovro> That is my only concern. </3
[11:48] <dr_willis> In /etc/fstab you do NOT escape spaces with  \   - not
[11:48] <dr_willis> 'share\ drive'
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> Ovro  http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/32474-a-windows-users-guide-to-linux.html
[11:49] <Ovro> thanks
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> jbates58: here are some examples: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1980881
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> jbates58: http://codeaweso.me/2009/07/mount-ntfs-partitions-at-startup-with-fstab/
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> jbates58: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34731/howto-auto-mount-windows-partitions-using-etc-fstab
[11:49] <Axylus> can you easily install a normal (non-"live") installation of Ubuntu onto a Flash drive without any major issues? perhaps by booting the installer from a DVD?
[11:50] <Ben64> Axylus: yeah, but its slow
[11:50] <simplexion> jbates58, spaces in fstab require \040
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> Ovro  and this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[11:50] <dr_willis> /servername/share\040name    /mount/point
[11:50] <simplexion> Yes, Axylus. You should be able to install to a USB. There are plenty of instructions around for doing so
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Axylus: if you put some of the folders in tempfs it can be made better but copy ing apps from USB to RAM is pretty slow
[11:51] <Axylus> speed doesn't matter. :) and will the installer install the boot loader to the Flash drive without a fuss?
[11:51] <Ben64> Axylus: yep, works fine as long as the computer can boot from usb. but for reals, its slow :)
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Axylus: then its fine :)
[11:52]  * ActionParsnip wishes Ubuntu had the  toram   cheatcode
[11:52] <dr_willis> Axylus:  i install to external usb/flash/sdcard - same as i would an internal drive.  - it can be sluggish. but useable
[11:52] <Axylus> simplexion, I've only managed to find instructions for performing "frugal" installations. I don't even know whether you can install packages in such installations…?
[11:53] <dr_willis> simplexion:  frugal? Err. thats a term Puppylinux uses... not seen it apply to Ubuntu
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Axylus: if you have a windows7 install, you can resize your NTFS and free up about 10Gb and then install to that and make a dual boot
[11:53] <simplexion> Do you mean persistent installation?
[11:53] <dr_willis> Axylus:  i boot the cd. plug in the flash.. and partion, install to the flash same as i would a internal hard drive. ;)
[11:53] <dr_willis> a Live-setup - is differnt  however. ;)
[11:53] <r4f3> Hello there. Is there anyway of getting 64bit kernel in a host with 32bit kenrel?
[11:53] <r4f3> Hello there. Is there anyway of getting 64bit kernel in a host with 32bit kenrel?
[11:54] <jbates58> what is ntfs vsntfs-3g?
[11:54] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[11:54] <jbates58> what is ntfs vs ntfs-3g?^
[11:54] <simplexion> r4f3, you will have issues with libraries
[11:54] <Axylus> "frugal" is the term that UNetbootin uses. yes, I think it's the same as a persistent installation
[11:54] <dr_willis> ntfs-3g is newer and has write support jbates58
[11:54]  * rAg3nix good to be back :D
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> r4f3  better describe the bigger picturen what do you want to do?
[11:54] <jbates58> so i will need that one then?
[11:54] <r4f3> simplexion if someone wants desperetaly to do so?
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> r4f3  better describe the bigger picture, what do you want to do?
[11:54] <simplexion> dr_willis, all ntfs in Linux has write support
[11:54] <dr_willis> jbates58:  you will be using ntfs-3g most likely
[11:55] <simplexion> I don't think any distros have ntfs without write support these days
[11:55] <dr_willis> simplexion:  last i looked the old ntfs  did not have write support..  but its been years. ;)
[11:55] <dsathe> l057c0d3r:  hey all well, just had to put an app specific passwrod for google
[11:55] <dsathe> coz of 2 step auth
[11:55] <r4f3> i want to run qemu kvm and install proxmox on a .raw file
[11:55] <Guest37103> hi there
[11:55] <r4f3> i run this and says i dont have 64bit host box
[11:55] <jbates58> itsa 2tb usb drive, that i want sabnzb to save all downloaded files to. then when its full, pull it out, and move them over to my windows machine, empty it, and then plug it back into ubuntu and it keeps on keeping on
[11:56] <simplexion> r4f3, I would be starting from scratch
[11:56] <simplexion> if you want a hypervisor that is
[11:56] <dr_willis> jbates58:  so? write to it with ntfs3g from linux.  and windowsc can read it..
[11:56] <r4f3> simplexion i just want to install proxmox VE in a virtual maschine
[11:56] <simplexion> r4f3, can you convert the physical to a virtual image and redeploy?
[11:57] <simplexion> If you want proxmox in a VM for testing just use virtualbox.
[11:57] <jbates58> i dont know. lol. in new to linux. i have a odroid board, running 24/7 headless, and it runs sabnzb. i want sab to save to the usb drive, then transfer it to my pc and back to the odroid
[11:57] <r4f3> simplexion i want to upload to a cloud appliance
[11:57] <kris-away> I have ubuntu server on one computer, and my desktops run ubuntu and windows... what's a program that i can use to sync my files that's not samba?
[11:57] <Ben64> kris-away: rsync
[11:58] <dr_willis> jbates58:  so whats the issue? You can mount a ntfs filesystem somewhere with ntfs-3g. write to it.. then when done.. unmount it and unplug it..
[11:58] <r4f3> simplexion if i run a vm with ubuntu 64bit in a host ubuntu 32 bit and instal?
[11:58] <dr_willis> kris-away:  rsync, unison, winscp+ssh,
[11:58] <Ben64> jbates58: you can't do that over the network?
[11:58] <simplexion> r4f3, that can't be done
[11:59] <r4f3> why not simplexion?
[11:59] <jbates58> but when i unplug it, and re-plug it, it keeps adding an underscore to the end of the mount point. so then i have to delete tehm all, and modify the save locations in sabnzbd
[11:59] <dr_willis> jbates58:  UNMOUNT it befor unplugging it
[11:59] <simplexion> It is physically impossible to run a 64bit guest on a 32bit host
[11:59] <jbates58> Ben64, i dont want it to go over a network.
[12:00] <jbates58> can that whole unmount/remount thing be auto, so i can just power off, and unplug and then back on?
[12:00] <Ben64> jbates58: much easier than moving a physical drive. whats the point of having a mini linux server if you have to move around devices
[12:00] <r4f3> what would you do simplexion?
[12:00] <dr_willis> jbates58:  if you power down the pc via the right method.. it will unmount it
[12:01] <jbates58> well its a headless download server, consumes about 5W at full load and runs like a trooper. i ue it to download from usenet to an external drive, and then transfer over to my pc.
[12:01] <simplexion> If you need the current setup to continue to run I would try do P2V and install KVM, then you can add your Proxmox appliance too.
[12:02] <r4f3> P2V?
[12:02] <Ben64> jbates58: yeah i got that. but since its a server and runs all the time, it can share files over the network
[12:02] <simplexion> Physical 2 Virtual
[12:02] <kris-away> rsync and unison... i said ubuntu to windows... winscp... i'm currently using vcftpd+gftp/filezilla.. i'm looking for a program like  ubuntuone... but ubuntuone does not have tbs of storage, wheras my server does
[12:02] <r4f3> could we please go in private simplexion?
[12:02] <simplexion> Sure
[12:02] <jbates58> it could, but its faster to remove the drive and use the usb connection. it only has 10/100 lan
[12:02] <dr_willis> you could just have it write to the windows box directly.. and not even use a  removeable hd.
[12:02] <dr_willis> Hmm.. i would think a usb would be slower..
[12:03] <Ben64> 12.5MB/s is faster than anything you'd want to watch
[12:03] <Neptu> hej how i can copy a file to clipboard with only one command?
[12:04] <ekiwok> simplexion it's possible to run 64 bit on 32 bit host via virtualbox
[12:04] <Ben64> Neptu: ctrl+c ?
[12:04] <jbates58> i understand that, but the odroid only has a 8gb sd card for the os, and then a 1tb hdd for files. i want the odroid to download them, and then transfer them to my pc. the pc sucks to much power to run 24/7, otherwise i would let it run and use sab on it.
[12:04] <simplexion> ekiwok, if it runs... it would be pointless
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> ekiwok: assuming the CPU allows it
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> simplexion: not really, SQL benefits greatly fro 64bitness
[12:04] <simplexion> That isn't even a hypervisor
[12:04] <Neptu> Ben64 not that kind of copy
[12:05] <Ben64> jbates58: keep the 1TB attached to the odroid, and share it over the network? :|
[12:05] <ekiwok> simplexion why pointless? you shoud notice there is NO 64 bit virtualbox for windows
[12:05] <jbates58> its pluggedinto the router, and my pc uses wireless adaptor (other end of the house)
[12:05] <simplexion> Sorry ekiwok, I don't see how running a 64bit guest on a 32bit host is possible
[12:05] <jbates58> so way to slow for that much data
[12:06] <simplexion> and if it is, it would basically be a 32 bit guest anyway
[12:06] <simplexion> just claiming to be 64bit
[12:06] <ekiwok> simplexion, it is http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch03.html#intro-64bitguests
[12:07] <mattnie> jbates58´: what about buying a celeron nas ans let it run 24/7 and do not copy data ^^^
[12:07] <mattnie> so you can encrypt your data and you have no problem with power consumption
[12:07] <simplexion> This: "Since supporting 64 bits on 32-bit hosts incurs additional overhead, VirtualBox only enables this support upon explicit request."
[12:07] <ekiwok> simplexion, it is possible because it all depends ONLY from your processor
[12:08] <jbates58> because i have this already, and it uses less power than any intel (i think 5W at full load), i seriously doubt that i needencryption, and my media server is my pc, which has support for 180tb of storage. this has only support for usb external storage
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> simplexion: if the CPU uports 64bit guest OSes it will allow you to run either, not all 64bit CPUs suppport 64bit guest OSes
[12:10] <simplexion> ActionParsnip: I am aware of that. I see absolutely no reason you would run a 64bit guest on a 32bit host. Seems wasteful.
[12:10] <BluesKaj> 180tb...wow, or is that typo, jbates58?
[12:10] <jbates58> nope.180tb home server pc
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> simplexion: tis a bit weird, but possible
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> simplexion: I'm not seeing how it is wasteful though, what is being wasted?
[12:12] <simplexion> See above, "incurs overheads"
[12:12] <ekiwok> simplexion, there may be a lots of reasons why to run 64 bit guest
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> simplexion: will do
[12:13] <Rodrive> Hi, I just tried to install amd graphic driver, howerver when i want to dual screen i cant (virtual size error) so I added in xorg.conf Section "Screen" Virtual 3840 1080 but when I restart gdm that doesnt work, here is the xorg's log : http://paste.debian.net/250071/. Thanks for reading, and sorry for my english
[12:13] <ekiwok> simplexion, for example when you have to check or do smth that requires 64 bit OS (fe. smth for studies)
[12:13] <simplexion> If you want to virtualise 64bit machines why would you do it on a 32bit host? Seems counter-intuitive
[12:14] <ekiwok> simplexion, because for example my academic class requires to do some 64 bit assembly?
[12:15] <adamk> Rodrive: Pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file too.
[12:15] <simplexion> ekiwok, how terribly does that run?
[12:16] <Neptu> there is acommand on cosolo to copy an entire file to the clipboard or pastebin it?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> depends what these 'overheads' are, if its something like 10Mb RAM per vm then who cares
[12:16] <jbates58> so, where did i go wrong in the fstab entry? or what do i need to modify? help is greatly appreciated
[12:16] <ekiwok> simplexion, not slower then 32 bit host
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Neptu: pastebinit
[12:16] <adamk> Neptu: pastebinit /path/to/file
[12:16] <jrib> Neptu: xclip, xclipboard, xclip-pastefile.  Check those
[12:17] <jrib> Neptu: if your final intent is to pastebin, then use pastebinit like others have suggested
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Neptu: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep http | pastebinit
[12:17] <ekiwok> simplexion, you dont feel the difference, processors with virtualisation are usually really powerfull and can handle it
[12:17] <simplexion> ekiwok, how about the memory? Can the 64bit guest use beyond 32bit host restrictions?
[12:17] <Rodrive> adamk: http://paste.debian.net/250080/
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Neptu: great command, should be default installed imho
[12:18] <ekiwok> simplexion, I haven't checked it but I think it's impossible
[12:18] <kris-away> anyone know a gui program to sync windows over network to cli ubuntu?
[12:18] <simplexion> ekiwok, thanks for correcting me
[12:19] <simplexion> I rarely use 32bit OS these days
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> simplexion: it has its places :
[12:19] <simplexion> It's interesting your can run 64bit guest on 32bit host
[12:19] <ekiwok> simplexion, notice what's the point of installing 32 bit host on computer with 4 GB (or more) RAM ? it's why I never tested it, nowdays my 1 GB ram netbook has 64 bit OS
[12:19] <simplexion> definitely
[12:19] <adamk> Rodrive: Hmmm, not sure why it's crashing. Though I'm not using fglrx at the moment, I have used it in the past with the Virtual option in my xorg.conf file and never experienced a crash from it.
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> ekiwok: PAE gives access p to 64Gb
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> *up
[12:20] <kris-away> pae is slow
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> kris-away: still gives access :)
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> with multiarch too, 32bit should fizzle out quicker
[12:20] <Rodrive> adamk: with the default driver, dual scree worked well
[12:22] <adamk> Rodrive: Yeah, I usually just use the open source radeon driver but, as I said, when using fglrx, dual screen works fine here and I'm not really seeing anything different about your xorg.conf file.
[12:23] <Rodrive> adamk: I am still to noob to operate the crash log, thanks anyway.
[12:25] <GrygrFlzr> I can't seem to boot the ubuntu live cd without acpi=off, and it seems to hardware block my wifi. Anyone know how I can boot it without acpi=off? nouveau.blacklist=1 initiates a kernel panic.
[12:25] <Rodrive> adamk: I changed the driver, because i was trying to get a little bit more fps in some games and I thought with propriatary driver maybe i can win some
[12:27] <kris-away> file shating linux-linux-macos is easy... but I cna't find a program for windows-ubuntu sharing(syncing)
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> kris-away: owncloud, rsync, dropbox
[12:28] <Pici> kris-away: how are you sharing to macos?
[12:28] <kris-away> rsync, which is not a windows friendly thing
[12:29] <Pici> kris-away: works fine for me.  I have a few shares mounted via cifs and I sync things across them.
[12:32] <dr_willis> !info unison
[12:33] <dr_willis> or samba, or winscp+ssh
[12:33] <kris-away> i can't even find unison for indows
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> kris-away: winscp will allow secure transfer to SFTP (installed when you install openssh-server), gret for WAN data transfers and streaming
[12:34] <dr_willis> http://code.google.com/p/winison/
[12:34] <dr_willis> found it on google just now.. there may be other front ends
[12:34] <dr_willis> http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/
[12:34] <kris-away> thanks... man google is getting unusable for searching for things
[12:34] <dr_willis> http://alan.petitepomme.net/unison/index.html
[12:35] <dr_willis> unuseable? I just used it...
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> kris-away: not used it in a while here, I use the duck :)
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> kris-away: plus it poluting links with its own stuff when you copy link addresses
[12:35]  * dr_willis just went to the unison homepage..
[12:37] <dr_willis> all i searched for was 'unison download'  and it was the first hit...
[12:37] <Axylus> I haven't used Linux for quite a few years. do you still need to use proprietary GPU drivers to get hardware acceleration?
[12:37] <dr_willis> Axylus:  depends on your video card.
[12:38] <Axylus> ugh
[12:38] <dr_willis> ugh what? it depends.. always has.. and always will.
[12:39] <Axylus> dr_willis, what are the names of the open-source drivers (so I can check compatibility)? :)
[12:39] <dr_willis> for what video chipset?
[12:40] <dr_willis> ati/amd and nvidia both have open sourced and propiraty versiopns
[12:40] <Axylus> er, I don't know. it's for a friend's computer. just the AMD and Nvidia ones
[12:40] <dr_willis> intel also has built in drivers these days.. and tools to install their latest
[12:40] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[12:40] <Axylus> !ati
[12:40] <dr_willis> and it also depends on how old the video card/chipset is
[12:41] <Axylus> dr_willis, okay. thanks again :)
[12:41] <dr_willis> just HOPE he dosent have an SiS card
[12:42] <bambanx_> a good web panel ? like cpanel but free pls?
[12:42] <ArchBeOS> hey guys, is there any way i can remove icons from unity? there are some apps in there that didnt clean up after themselves...
[12:44] <dr_willis> what apps?
[12:44] <ArchBeOS> wine apps
[12:44] <dr_willis> those are in your users home directory somewhere
[12:44] <dr_willis> like .config/applications or somthing
[12:45] <ArchBeOS> found it ~/.local/share/applications
[12:46] <dr_willis> point to rember is that  the package manager tools do NOT touch files in your home ;) and wine is special also.
[12:46] <dr_willis> bbl
[12:52] <gh_luk> Hello!
[12:53] <waqs_> hi
[12:53] <gh_luk> I am on an lubuntu installation on pentiumIII 556MHz and 256MB RAM.
[12:54] <gh_luk> now i am having the problem, that chromium always tells me it is out of memory. Task manager shows that there is memory left, but CPU is at 100%, allthough the processes running don´t make up even 20%
[12:55] <gh_luk> any suggestions?
[12:55] <anthony_> hi.  I am dual booting, and can't log in to one o.s. that has been installed a long time.  any ideas?  The password suddenly doesn't work
[12:55] <cfhowlett> anthony_, windows installation/wubi?
[12:56] <anthony_> kubuntu (dual booting with Bhodi)
[12:57] <anthony_> cfhowlett: im in bhodi, now. kubuntu won't log in.
[12:57] <cfhowlett> !password|anthony_,
[12:59] <anthony_> cfhowlett:  i will try
[13:00] <oxys> hi folks
[13:00] <cfhowlett> oxys, greetings
[13:01] <GrygrFlzr> Anyone know why I can't boot the live cd without using acpi=off?
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> GrygrFlzr  sure the cd is not corrupt? have you md5 checked it?
[13:03] <GrygrFlzr> yes.
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> GrygrFlzr  and only on that pc? have you tried on another?
[13:04] <GrygrFlzr> have not tried it on any other pcs. should I try to boot it in a VM?
[13:05] <Symmetria> hrm, is the quagga package broken in precise?
[13:06] <cfhowlett> Symmetria, candidate <IP_ADDRESS> shows up as candidate
[13:08] <Symmetria> cfhowlett *hrm* lemme try apt-get update and try again
[13:13] <GrygrFlzr> MonkeyDust, loads fine in my VM without any special parameters
[13:13] <bambanx_> guys how i can know my fully qualified hostname
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> GrygrFlzr  then it must be hardware related, i guess
[13:16] <GrygrFlzr> it uses Nvidia, so I was told to use nouveau.blacklist=1, didn't do anything
[13:16] <GrygrFlzr> while nomodeset causes a kernel panic
[13:17] <ForgottenEmperpr> hi
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> GrygrFlzr  put all these findings in one line and repeat it every 10-15 minutes, until someone can help
[13:18] <Draxelis> Does anyone use NOD32 on ubuntu?
[13:18] <GrygrFlzr> I did that every 30 minutes, though 15 minutes would be annoying and get me a !patient label
[13:18] <GrygrFlzr> *thought
[13:19] <cfhowlett> ForgottenEmperpr, greetings
[13:19] <ForgottenEmperpr> hey i typed my name wrong lol.. its supposed to be emperor rofl
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> ForgottenEmperpr  type /nick Emperor
[13:20] <ForgottenEmperor> ah thanks..
[13:20] <p0wn3d> gh_luk: You might want to try a distro that is for low resources.  Then I found I didn't have this directory: "thermal_zone0". How to fix this issue? thanks.
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> ForgottenEmperor: you can install the mini ISO then install fluxbox, there is fluxbuntu but it seems dead (although they say its not). Lubuntu is light too
[13:22] <bambanx_> ActionParsnip, web
[13:23] <nabblet> hi, can some1 tell me how to fix the following dmesg messages ? http://pastebin.com/4G6aMh9V i know it got to do something with country codes and frequencies - i moved rom switzerladn to germany recently - what i googled so far did not help
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> bambanx_: I just ping -a'd your IP and got a name
[13:23] <ForgottenEmperor> hmm. i'll try that.. setting up a routing and QoS server starting with a minimal ubuntu config.. dont think any other dlinux ditro can beat the ubuntu repositry
[13:23] <ForgottenEmperor> thanks
[13:27] <ZenoArrow> Hi. I'm having trouble connecting to my *buntu box via SSH on my Windows machine. Port is blocked somewhere along the way. I'm not sure how to proceed. Help!
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: are you connecting over the internet?
[13:28] <ZenoArrow> ActionParsnip: Thanks for your reply. This is over a home network router.
[13:28] <ZenoArrow> I've already opened the port on the router.
[13:28] <ForgottenEmperor> hi ZenoArrow.. port problems usually are at the ssh server.. not the client, which, in your case is the windows machine
[13:29] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: Thank you for your reply too. Just to clarify, the *buntu box is the server, the Windows box is the client.
[13:30] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: yes
[13:30] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: so forwarded ports in the router should point to the ip of the linux machine
[13:31] <ZenoArrow> Yes.
[13:31] <ZenoArrow> I've reinstalled openssh on the server, and have checked with netstat that it's listening on port 22.
[13:31] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: have you tried conecting via the local network first?
[13:32] <jrib> ZenoArrow: can you "ssh localhost" on the server itself?
[13:32] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: That's what I'm trying to do. I don't need to connect to the box over the Internet.
[13:32] <ZenoArrow> jrib: I'll try that now. BRB.
[13:32] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow so you windows machine and linux machine are on the same LAN?
[13:33] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: if the are in the same LAN port fowarding isnt necessary on the router
[13:34] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: Yes they are on the same LAN.
[13:35] <ZenoArrow> jrib: Thank you for your tip. I have tried logging in using ssh localhost on the server itself, which was successful.
[13:35] <ZenoArrow> This suggests to me the issue is with the router.
[13:35] <jrib> ZenoArrow: any output from "iptables -L" on the server?
[13:35] <ZenoArrow> jrib: Checking now...
[13:36] <sgo11> hi, I keep getting the error: "error reading: /sys/devices/virtual/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp". Then I found I didn't have this directory: "thermal_zone0". How to fix this issue? thanks.
[13:36] <James_m> Where does Firefox keeps temporary files for youtube videos (if any)?
[13:36] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: no i dont think it;s the router.. btw how are you using ssh on your windows machine? cygwin?
[13:37] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: Using PuTTY.
[13:38] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: isay i dont think its the router because the router (in most cases) does not touch or affect the intra-LAN communication
[13:38] <ZenoArrow> jrib: Running iptables -L (using sudo) I get blank tables. Does this mean the firewall hasn't been setup or something?
[13:39] <bean> ZenoArrow, by default there will be no rules.
[13:39] <jrib> ZenoArrow: that's the default setup; it means you don't have any firewall rules (blocking ssh)
[13:39] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: Okay. I just remember setting up port forwarding on the router when I got SSH working before.
[13:39] <ZenoArrow> bean and jrib: Good to know.
[13:39] <miksd> or maybe firewall running on linux machine
[13:39] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: see the router port forwarding only comes into play when you are trying to acces your compputer ove the internet
[13:39] <ZenoArrow> Is there any way I can see (from my Windows box) whether the port is available?
[13:40] <bean> ZenoArrow, port forwarding only matters if you're sshing to your public IP
[13:40] <ForgottenEmperor> can you ping each computer from the other?
[13:41] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: Ping comes up with "Destination host unreachable", but I've read pinging local machines often results in this error (something to do with ARP).
[13:41] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: there's your problem
[13:42] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: your computers cant see each other over the same network
[13:42] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: check if both are in the same subnet
[13:42] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: How do I fix that problem? You've already said that the router shouldn't be blocking traffic on the local network?
[13:43] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: Yes, they are both on the same subnet. Client machine on <IP_ADDRESS>, server machine on <IP_ADDRESS>.
[13:43] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: and can you atleast pingthe router form both?
[13:43] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: Checking now...
[13:43] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow : which i am guessing must be <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: can you ping the server by IP?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: can yo u tenet to the socket?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: did you configure a firewall on the server side?
[13:45] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: just type "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" in the terminal of each computer (assuming your router is <IP_ADDRESS>)
[13:47] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: if you can get the ping to work .. i m pretty sure you won't have an problem SSHing
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: also make sure the service is running on the server side
[13:48] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: lol
[13:49] <p0wn3d> Channel title should be "Google it first" :)
[13:49] <ForgottenEmperor> hey has anyone here tried running league of legends on wine?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> p0wn3d: users should think that first, then ask second (imho)
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> ForgottenEmperor: is it in the appdb?
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> !appdb | ForgottenEmperor
[13:51] <murxlaus> hi, i have a udevd-timeout-killing-event on startup and want to find out wicht module is responsible. What can i do?
[13:51] <ForgottenEmperor> actually i was just asking generally if anyone ever tried it and what results they got
[13:51] <hhuo> hi, i'm trying to install riak on ubuntu 12.10 (instructions there http://docs.basho.com/riak/latest/tutorials/installation/Installing-on-Debian-and-Ubuntu/), but I'm getting "W: Failed to fetch http://apt.basho.com/dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/Packages  403  Forbidden" when doing sudo apt-get update
[13:53] <ZenoArrow> I'm back, sorry about that, dodgy power connection on laptop, fixed now.
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> hhuo  what's the output of lsb_release -sd ?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> hhuo: doesn't seem to support quantal
[13:53] <hhuo> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 12.10
[13:54] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: Was successfully able to ping router (<IP_ADDRESS>) from both client and server.
[13:54] <shogunrisk_> Does anyone know how to fix glitchy graphics when using ubuntu 12.10 on a mac?
[13:54] <ZenoArrow> What else can I try?
[13:54] <hhuo> ok so i need to build from source
[13:55] <ZenoArrow> I tried nmap as well on the router, it listed port 22 as 'filtered'. Is this a clue to what's happening?
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> hhuo: http://apt.basho.com/dists/    you could try the Precise deb, the massive clue that quantal wasn't supported is on the link you gave....it doesn't mention it....
[13:55] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: hmm so you can ping the router from both but cant ping each other.. hmm
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> hhuo: did that not stick out to you...?
[13:55] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: Yes, exactly that. Bit strange eh!
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> hhuo: you could change the .list file to say precise instead of quantal and it may work
[13:56] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: have you tried disabling firewall on the windows system.. also another reason might be is that the router might be implementing some sort of client isolation
[13:56] <ZenoArrow> tracert <IP_ADDRESS> from the Windows machine results in 'Destination host unreachable' also.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: are both systems Ubuntu based?
[13:57] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: Okay, will try disabling firewall on the Windows system.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: is the windows system connected to a VPN currently?
[13:57] <ZenoArrow> ActionParsnip: The client is Windows based, the server is *buntu.
[13:57]  * wickedpuppy would have also say vlan ...
[13:58] <hhuo> ActionParsnip: now update works, but it cannot find the package riak
[13:58] <ZenoArrow> ActionParsnip: Both the Windows system and the server are only connected via a home router, no VPN involved.
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> hhuo: I'd contact the site maintainers
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: I suggest you reboot the router, then reboot the clients, some networking logic has broken down somewhere
[13:59] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: also u can try wiring both the LAN ports of the two computers together directly, completely bypasing the router.
[14:00] <mattnie> ZenoArrow: Are they connected via wlan?
[14:00] <ZenoArrow> ActionParsnip: I've rebooted both systems before. I'll try disabling the firewall as ForgottenEmperor suggested, then try resetting the router.
[14:00] <ZenoArrow> mattnie: Yes, they are connected via wlan.
[14:00] <mattnie> zenoarrow: there is often the routeroption "allow clients to comunicate"
[14:01] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: well in that case.. note that a lot of home WLAN rrouters do implement client isolation
[14:01] <ZenoArrow> mattnie: I'm using a BT Home Hub router, where might I find that setting?
[14:02] <mattnie> zenoarrow: sorry i don't know ^^ but maybe in e. g. "local network" "homenetwork" "wireless" "wlan"
[14:02] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: try pointing your browser to <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:03] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: another thing you can try that will most definielty work is put the two computers in an ad-hoc wireless network
[14:03] <ZenoArrow> I've turned off Windows Firewall. Tried doing a port scan via nmap on the homehub router, port 22 is still listed as filtered.
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: also try telnetting to the socket, it will show it os listening
[14:04] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: this way you are bypassing the router
[14:04] <boyxboy77> http://xhotspanishgirls.blogspot.com/2013/04/hot-galleries.html
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: if you are connecting over the LAN, then the wan port 22 isn't much use (unless you want access from outside and that is the goal)
[14:05] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: If I do that (adhoc network), wouldn't I lose the ability to connect to the Internet? Note that each machine only has one wifi device each.
[14:06] <ZenoArrow> ActionParsnip: Okay, will try telnetting to the socket.
[14:06] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: well atleat you can use the ad-hoc to troubleshoot your current situation
[14:06] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: if ad-hoc works .. your routers theculprit
[14:07] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: True. Will try that after telnet.
[14:07] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow:and if your router is indeed the root of the problem.. try the manufacurers website or similar source to hel you wit that
[14:08] <akan01n> hi, everytime I reboot the resolution comes back to the original 1440x900, how do I persist ? Ubuntu 12.04
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: what video chip do you use?
[14:09] <ForgottenEmperor> akan01n: how many monitors do you have?
[14:09] <ZenoArrow> ForgottenEmperor: I will. Thing is, I've already successfully setup SSH on this router before, I usually only have to make the port available and that's all. It's really strange that it's acting differently this time.
[14:10] <akan01n> I have one, at the moment I have to test so I am running on a VM.
[14:10] <Wraps> What does make my ubuntu to hang on a black screen sometimes?
[14:10] <Wraps> while bootin
[14:10] <Wraps> g
[14:10] <akan01n> test software*, not Ubuntu.
[14:10] <ForgottenEmperor> ZenoArrow: i understand. but something has probably changed. and it seems like a network layer problem to me.. no the OS or firewall
[14:10] <trejiin> I started using an apple trackpad. To adjust the settings I've been using gpointing-device-settings. So everytime I turn the laptop on and turn the trackpad on gpointing-device-settings adds a whole new trackpad to the list, shows 4 now.
[14:10] <trejiin> Any ideas how to stop this from happening>
[14:10] <trejiin> ?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: I have a VM using LXDE, I use xrandr to set the res in the startup, you could add similar
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: I use:   xrandr --auto --output VBOX0 --primary --mode 1280x960
[14:12] <she_dyed> trajin what about a script to not do anything when it existxs already
[14:12] <akan01n> ActionParsnip: ok, let me check, I have to create a file called .xrandr ? or the tool will create one for me ?
[14:12] <she_dyed> trejiin: what about a script to not do anything when it existxs already
[14:12] <ForgottenEmperor> akan01n: yes use an xrandr startup script
[14:12] <ForgottenEmperor> akan01n: so it's persistent at every login
[14:13] <akan01n> ForgottenEmperor: ok
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: just add it in the startup items. Are you using LXDE too?
[14:13] <trejiin> she_dyed: Not really sure how to do that. I'll have to look into how gpointing-device-settings works.
[14:13] <akan01n> ActionParsnip: no, Parallels Desktop
[14:13] <trejiin> Was hoping for a way to delete the previous ones for now.
[14:13] <she_dyed> trejiin: once you find the 4 getting the name is easy
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: in Ubuntu?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: can you run parallels as a DE in Ubuntu?
[14:15] <akan01n> ActionParsnip: yes, Im running Ubuntu with Parallels, flawlessly.. :)
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: yes, but which desktop in Ubuntu
[14:16] <ForgottenEmperor> akan01n: what's the host machine? mac?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: Gnome? KDE? LXDE
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> ?
[14:16] <akan01n> ForgottenEmperor: yes
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: I you using Unity with the icons down the left side?
[14:16] <akan01n> ActionParsnip: ahnnn.. the defult one from Ubuntu Desktop 12.04L.
[14:17] <akan01n> ActionParsnip: yes
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: then that is Gnome, with Unity shell. The fact it is running in Parallels is of absolutely zero value
[14:17] <ForgottenEmperor> akan01n: i think most vms allow you to setup virtual monitor sizes. i might be wrong.. but the problem that your screenresoultion rests at every reboot seems to me that the VM is not detecting the right sized virtual monitor at boot
[14:17] <TvL2386> hi guys, I've just restored an ubuntu-10.04 server to another server (other disks), updated fstab with new uuid's, ran grub-install but the server didn't came up. The kernel command line still has the wrong UUID for the root partition. Where can I change this?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: when someine says "what desktop are you running", you respond "gnome", as that is the desktop environment in Ubuntu
[14:18] <akan01n> ActionParsnip: ahn.. ok! sorry! :P
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> TvL2386: I'd boot to liveCD and you can chroot to the installed OS
[14:18] <TvL2386> ActionParsnip, done that... that's how I restored and ran grub-install and such
[14:18] <hzform> 有人用flashget for linux吗？
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> akan01n: if you make a startup item using the 'startup items' thing in Dash, you can add the command
[14:18] <akan01n> ForgottenEmperor: Im going to check, the resolution is ok, 1440x900, but I want a higher one.
[14:18] <mac_> hy all.. when i run linux and login as ubuntu, only desktop notification show up and slidewall (desktop changer).. :(
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> TvL2386: you could use the old style /dev/sda1 etc in fstab, it does work
[14:19] <genii-around> !ch | hzform
[14:19] <genii-around> Bleh
[14:19] <genii-around> !cn | hzform
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> mac_: Which release are you using?
[14:19] <mac_> 12.04 lts
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> mac_: tried the Unity2D session?
[14:20] <TvL2386> ActionParsnip, The UUID defined in /etc/fstab is the correct one, because I changed it after the restore. The one that's in the kernel command line differs from this one. So it seems fstab is not used as input for that
[14:20] <mac_> not yet
[14:20] <mac_> brb
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> TvL2386: could manually edit grub.conf just to get a boot
[14:20] <ForgottenEmperor> you know this is my first time on the ubuntu IRC channel (or any IRC channel tbh :P) .. and man, have i been missing something!
[14:21] <TvL2386> ActionParsnip, where is it? I've mounted the partition, but running "find . -name grub.conf" comes up empty
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> ForgottenEmperor: its a good support network
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> TvL2386: /boot/grub/grub.cfg   (or similar)
[14:21] <ForgottenEmperor> ActionParsnip: i realized :)
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> ForgottenEmperor: windows has a channel too ##windows
[14:22] <ArchBeOS> hey guys, quick question. any gotchas from upgrading distros? 12.10 to 13.04?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> ArchBeOS: proprietary video drivers can go funny
[14:22] <TvL2386> ActionParsnip, Ah thanks! I've been blinded by grub.conf (instead of cfg) You are correct... I find the old UUID in there
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> TvL2386: yay, maybe if you boot to the install ok and rerun update-grub it may use the right UUID
[14:23] <ArchBeOS> ActionParsnip: good thing i only use foss :)
[14:23] <ArchBeOS> thans
[14:23] <ArchBeOS> thanks
[14:24] <TvL2386> ActionParsnip, I think it's probably because i updated fstab after running grub-install / update-grub.  I forget which
[14:27] <mac_> yeah.. and a nice one too
[14:27] <mac_> ?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> mac_: nice one what?
[14:27] <mac_> joek
[14:27] <mac_> joke
[14:27] <mac_> :)
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> ahhhh i see
[14:28] <mac_> so.. got anything better ?
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> mac_: than what?
[14:29] <mac_> so i need to remove compiz? and reinstalled to use it? /than compiz
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> mac_: just leave it installed, ut doesn't hurt aything being there
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> *it
[14:29] <mac_> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ precise/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> mac_: what is the output of:  grep -R partner /etc/apt/*      please
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> mac_: use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:31] <TvL2386> ActionParsnip, I reran update-grub, compared the new grub.cfg with the old one and all uuids where updated!  Should have updated fstab at first :)
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> TvL2386: you git there, and you know for next time :)
[14:33] <TvL2386> ActionParsnip, sure do! I've converted an ubuntu10.04 physical machine to a KVM virtual machine
[14:34] <gordonjcp> o_O
[14:34] <adamk> gordonjcp: I've never heard anyone mention that, but I am curious what you're talking about...
[14:35] <llutz> !ot | gordonjcp adamk
[14:35] <gordonjcp> adamk: the crash report collection daemon is called "wh**psie"
[14:36] <mac_> thank u, 2 look at this.. : http://imagebin.org/254353 and http://paste.ubuntu.com/5716091/
[14:36] <drkat> Hello, I have an ubuntu box running 9.1 and it is terrible sluggish. top does not show any CPU/Memory issues but logins are slow, and web sites are serving slow and timing out, CLI is slow to respond as well.  This is a virtual box and VM shows it pegged for CPU, but whats weird is top doesnt show anything
[14:36] <gordonjcp> adamk: oh well, obviously using offensive language is okay if it's the Ubuntu devs doing it
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> mac_: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/precise-partner.list*
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> mac_: sudo apt-get update
[14:37] <she_dyed> drkat: 9.1?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> mac_: the partner repo is already defined in /etc/apt/sources.list so you don't need the extra file
[14:37] <grubbed> Ciao a tutti :))
[14:38] <xen> hello i have an huawei e1550 modem with i connect it it connects for a while and then message displays modem disconnected ubuntu 12.04.2
[14:38] <drkat> she_dyed, thats what it shows me on the login
[14:38] <drkat> Im not overly familiar
[14:38] <she_dyed> i believe this is supprt for 12.04
[14:39] <xen> so where should i go for 12.04.1
[14:39] <drkat> well the box cant be upgraded
[14:39] <xen> sory 12.04.2
[14:39] <she_dyed> you'er ok xen
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> she_dyed: this is support for 11.10, 12.04 and 12.10
[14:40] <mac_> aha
[14:40] <xen>  she_dyed : yea m fine
[14:40] <she_dyed> is ther a
[14:40] <she_dyed> !eol
[14:40] <she_dyed> !eol > drkat
[14:40] <xen> will i get help here
[14:40] <pdkl> Is there a good book on 12.10 ubuntu admin?
[14:40] <pdkl> things are different in ubuntu, im a rhce
[14:41] <Pici> xen: here. or #ubuntu-server if you're running server.
[14:41] <pdkl> and i cant figure out how the logs work and etc
[14:41] <she_dyed> xen if a person knows about your problem you can get help otehrwise theres the forums too if you don't have much time
[14:42] <xen>  i have an huawei e1550 modem with i connect it it connects for a while and then message displays modem disconnected ubuntu 12.04.2
[14:42] <Atum_> Is 13.04 out?
[14:42] <drkat> Ok so I'm SOL is what you're saying?
[14:43] <philinux> Atum_: 25th april
[14:43] <xen> please help
[14:43] <she_dyed> try a live disc drkat or liveUSB of a more recent flavor
[14:43] <Atum_> philinux: Ok, thanks.
[14:43] <drkat> ya know I'm gonna go and ... yeah thanks
[14:46] <philinux> Atum_: you might like info here http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=427
[14:47] <Atum_> philinux: I'll check it out, ty
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Atum_: #ubuntu+1 for any Raring support questions til release day
[14:50] <caroline_> comment faire fonctionner une webcam intégrée sur mini compaq qvp =s
[14:50] <caroline_> ?
[14:51] <GridCube> i've seen this "sudo apt-get install libcupsimage2:i386" hinted as a solution to a problem on 64bits machines and cups problems on debian, will this apt-get :i386 work on my xubuntu 12.10 amd64?
[14:52] <sharinganex> caroline_: en français c'est sur #ubuntu-fr
[14:53] <philinux> GridCube: what printer are u having problems with?
[14:54] <virus> holo
[14:54] <GridCube> xerox phaser 3040 drivers are 32bits http://forum.support.xerox.com/t5/Printing/Phaser-6010-driver-Linux-64-bits/td-p/5244/page/2
[14:54] <Abhi89> hello
[14:54] <she_dyed> sharinganex: am curious, do you still use cp, mv or are there also french equivalents
[14:54] <GridCube> xerox support says 10.0lts is supported but no longer :(
[14:54] <Abhi89> i  need help
[14:54] <virus> ok
[14:55] <Abhi89> how to check graphics memory ?
[14:55] <sharinganex> she_dyed: same commands
[14:55] <she_dyed> thx sharinganex
[14:56] <GridCube> philinux, do you think that that apt-get line, forcing the 32bits, its an option? im not in that machine now to test it
[14:56] <GridCube> i just want to know if i should bother to try
[14:59] <philinux> GridCube: cant see it doing any harm it can alwasy
[14:59] <philinux> always be removed
[14:59] <GridCube> philinux, :) thanks, will have some hope then
[15:00]  * GridCube phews for now, only option he had was to re-install linux
[15:00] <philinux> GridCube: if you really need the printer you could install 32 bit os
[15:00] <GridCube> philinux, yeah, but a reinstall...
[15:00] <philinux> GridCube: good luck hope it works without reinstall
[15:01] <GridCube> me too
[15:01] <GridCube> thanks bro
[15:01] <philinux> GridCube: you could also try a live usb 32 bit and see if that works
[15:02] <GridCube> true that, i do have this netbook runing i386, but its xubuntu 12.04, no 12.10
[15:08] <petey> hey everyone
[15:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Yo
[15:11] <petey> so would you guys reccomend just installing ubuntu on a 16GB flash drive for just quick CLI use?
[15:11] <petey> im not really trying to install anything special but i hate having to install sublime text / IRC every time i boot up
[15:13] <SonikkuAmerica> petey: A 16 GB one?
[15:13] <tmmunq> how's the fglrx driver these days? I want to do opencl on an amd card, but i would prefer to stick with the radeon driver
[15:13] <she_dyed> the minimal CD might be ok for you petey
[15:13] <petey> yeah I mean it's what 4.6GB?
[15:13] <petey> how do I get started without just making a bootable USB?
[15:14] <petey> I'm not looking for persistence am I, just straight up install?
[15:14] <speedy_> I screwed things up after updating to 13.04, seems fglrx doesn't support the card anymore, how to enable open source display driver?
[15:14] <she_dyed> petey but idk, the ones i've used would use up the drive
[15:14] <SonikkuAmerica> speedy_: Ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:15] <petey> she_dyed what do you mean
[15:15] <chiluk> ls
[15:15] <chiluk> sigh
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> chiluk: install sl too :)
[15:15] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: lol
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> choo-woo
[15:16] <she_dyed> petey the 12G or so would  remain a waste of space in my case
[15:16] <philinux> petey: a live usb uses about 2 gig
[15:17] <she_dyed> petey if i start paritioning the usb it won't boot on my hw, without plop
[15:18] <Utilisateur> Bonjour, j'ai un problème de pass "system policy" pour éteindre la machine, comment désactiver cette demande de pass inutile ?
[15:18] <petey> im so confused
[15:18] <SonikkuAmerica> !fr | Utilisateur
[15:18] <r4f3> guys, where is termiinal located?
[15:18] <petey> so what's my best option for creating a bootable USB that has saved software on it
[15:19] <chiluk> petey if you are savvy https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot/Examples or  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604
[15:19] <chiluk> are my favorite ways.
[15:19] <chiluk> that way you don't have to waste a whole usb stick for one iso.
[15:19] <r4f3> cause the new unity thing wont find anyting
[15:20] <SonikkuAmerica> r4f3: It won't find anything? What do you mean?
[15:20] <chiluk> I'd really like to see Ubuntu move to using loopback mounted isos as the default usb install methoed in the future.
[15:20] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone in here familiar with permissions and transmission-daemon?
[15:20] <petey> chiluk i did the thing you see in the thread already
[15:20] <qubit01> Anyone have a GeForce 650M Graphics card running with  ubuntu ?
[15:20] <petey> that's how im on right now, but i need to be able to save some programs
[15:21] <r4f3> guys, where is terminal located?
[15:21] <r4f3> guys, where is terminal located?
[15:21] <petey> i dont want to keep re downloading the stuff i use on a daily basis
[15:21] <petey> r4f3 top left corner click the dash bar and type in terminal
[15:21] <r4f3> i tried but it doenst appear!
[15:21] <philinux> petey: live usb with persistance maybe
[15:21] <ubuntuaddicted> r4f3, try gnome-terminal
[15:21] <r4f3> how?
[15:22] <r4f3> i can't open terminal to install
[15:22] <TK-999> Ctrl+Alt+T?
[15:22] <petey> i hear there's a problem with persistence isnt there
[15:23] <petey> so it's better off just installing it onto the flash drive like you would on a normal hard drive
[15:23] <philinux> petey: used to be but fixed now
[15:23] <tabeaux> !isitout
[15:23] <SonikkuAmerica> r4f3: Did you just open up the Unity dash or use Alt+F2?
[15:23] <r4f3> i tried unity dash
[15:23] <r4f3> anything i type
[15:23] <petey> philinux: would you have a source?
[15:23] <SonikkuAmerica> tabeaux: Hopefully 2013.04.25
[15:24] <chiluk> petey, sorry I missed the persistence thing..  sorry I only use usb to install
[15:24] <r4f3> it doesnt apear a thing!
[15:24] <r4f3> and ctrl alt T wont wor kalso..
[15:24] <tabeaux> SonikkuAmerica: I heard canonical is going to move ubuntu to rolling release
[15:24] <petey> chiluk: its okay!
[15:24] <sh3llc0d3r> hey there
[15:24] <tabeaux> SonikkuAmerica: If this happens, they pretty much lost all steam
[15:24] <SonikkuAmerica> tabeaux: That isn't what Mark Shuttleworth said is going to happen (at least immediately)
[15:24] <tabeaux> Mark Shutlleworthless :)
[15:24] <ubuntuaddicted> i need help with the transmission-daemon and permissions
[15:25] <radioactive> hey
[15:25] <sgonline> hey its been over 10 yrs since i been on mirc
[15:25] <sgonline> lol
[15:25] <tgm4883> tabeaux, although you may disagree with his decisions, every project needs someone that will make those decisions
[15:25] <chiluk> tabeaux, why is rolling releases such a bad thing>.... also realize it's rolling releases + LTS's
[15:25] <tabeaux> SonikkuAmerica: thanks for the information
[15:25] <philinux> petey: only source is my usb persistant live usb which works. 12.10
[15:26] <tabeaux> tgm4883: I don't disagree, I just think they're being silly
[15:26] <SonikkuAmerica> tabeaux: However, starting with 13.04 the release support schecdule is only 9 months, not 18.
[15:26] <chiluk> tabeaux, it's we... we are a community
[15:26] <tabeaux> chiluk: Because for users, the excitement is in the releases
[15:26] <SonikkuAmerica> so 13.04 EOL will happen before 12.10
[15:26] <tgm4883> tabeaux, this is part of a longer discussion we could have, but it would need to be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:26] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot
[15:26] <tabeaux> SonikkuAmerica: ok
[15:26] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone in here use transmission-daemon and the web interface?
[15:26] <tabeaux> tgm4883: Wrong
[15:27] <tgm4883> wtf?
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> SonikkuAmerica: no, 12.10 will EOL 18 months after release, 13.04 will EOL 18 months after its release
[15:27] <petey> philinux: im just wondering how to do it lol
[15:27] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: Someone needs to fix Wikipedia then.
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> SonikkuAmerica: 12.04 will EOL 5 years frmo release
[15:27] <chiluk> tgm4883, you've been having a bad few days.
[15:27] <zrzerenato> hi to all
[15:27] <chiluk> tgm4883, at least on irc
[15:27] <r4f3> I type terminal in the dash and -> Sorry there is nothing that matches your search
[15:27] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: I knew that XD
[15:27] <philinux> petey start up disk creator
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  as of 13.04 : eol 9 months afer release
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: oh, is that new?
[15:28] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: Here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/ubuntu-to-halve-support-window-for-regular-releases
[15:28] <tgm4883> chiluk, I think I'll just stop talking to people
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> i see
[15:28] <ubuntuaddicted> r4f3, did you try gnome-terminal
[15:28] <chiluk> tgm4883, don't do that.  I enjoyed our conversation yesterday.. I learned something...
[15:28] <r4f3> what do you mean?
[15:28] <r4f3> How to try it?
[15:29] <ubuntuaddicted> r4f3, type in gnome-terminal in the dash search bar
[15:29] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: So 13.04 EOL is before 12.10 EOL
[15:29] <ubuntuaddicted> r4f3, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases <-- that's 9 months
[15:29] <SonikkuAmerica> 3-month window
[15:29] <tgm4883> chiluk, yea I won't just stop
[15:29] <zrzerenato> ive just installed latest version virtualbox on ubuntu 12.04 and i cannoit find laucher icon. I downloaded latest version from virtualbox.org , an run a .deb package. it isntalled autamaticly, but how do i find the executable file?
[15:29] <tgm4883> chiluk, I'll just be meaner to users that do dumb things
[15:29] <philinux> r4f3: does ctrl alt t do anything
[15:29] <r4f3> ubuntuaddicted same...nothing  that mathces
[15:29] <ubuntuaddicted> r4f3, what version of ubuntu?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> SonikkuAmerica: seems so in light of new info :)
[15:29] <chiluk> tgm4883, just be meaner to the ones that are trying to pick fights.
[15:29] <r4f3> just installed 12.04 64bit
[15:29] <r4f3> in VB
[15:30] <ubuntuaddicted> can anyone please help with transmission-daemon and permissions?
[15:30] <tush> Creative Elite pro IO Console not working in ubuntu 12.04 64bit
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: since my new job I've been outta the loop with all the news and changes
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: as and see
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> tush: are there any bugs reported?
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  now thou knowest what #ubuntu is useful for
[15:30] <she_dyed> zrzerenato: dpkg-query -L virtualbox
[15:30] <tush> ActionParsnip, no
[15:30] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, why don't you phrase your question like such ... when I do blah... such and such gives me this error
[15:31] <petey> philinux: is it possible to run the start up disk creator and install it on the same USB it's running from? lol
[15:31] <Kartagis> hi
[15:31] <chiluk> petey I wouldn't advise it
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> petey: i'd say no, not tried it though
[15:31] <tush> ActionParsnip, just console not working, i cant increase and decrease volume from console
[15:31] <Kartagis> I'm trying to hook my laptop to a tv and display from there. what's the easiest way to do that?
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> tush: I suggest you report a bug
[15:32] <ubuntuaddicted> r4f3, on the left side, within the side bar, the icon that has like a black screen is the terminal. i have no idea why it's not appearing when you type in either terminal or gnome-terminal
[15:32] <petey> yeah that's what i figured
[15:32] <Kartagis> as soon as I connect to tv, a sony appears in display settings but I can't navigate to it because my cursor is on the tv
[15:32] <petey> what do you guys reccomend I do then? I only have one USB stick
[15:32] <SARC> I seek advice to troubleshoot a bootup error:  BAR 6: address space collision on of device
[15:32] <r4f3> yeah me neither ubuntuaddicted
[15:32] <r4f3> where is located in the filesystem?
[15:32] <tush> ActionParsnip, its a external I/O console of creative Elite Pro Sound card
[15:32] <zrzerenato> she_dyed: thanks for the answer, but what this shuld do?
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> SARC: have you tested your RAM using Memtest86+ from grub
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> tush: I gathered
[15:33] <she_dyed> zrzerenato: lists where your stuff went
[15:33] <chiluk> petey, install to a hard drive ?
[15:33] <philinux> petey: with a live usb you can still use the remaining space for storage
[15:33] <SARC> ActionParsnip: Yes, I have and it passed
[15:33] <petey> i dont have a hard drive i can install to right now
[15:33] <zrzerenato> she_dyed: it just says it's now installed
[15:33] <ubuntuaddicted> r4f3, most likely /usr/bin/
[15:33] <tgm4883> Kartagis, so the displays aren't mirrored?
[15:33] <tush> ActionParsnip, what you suggest anything to configure or any specific driver needs to be download
[15:33] <petey> philinux: how? every time i load up the USB stick none of the software i downloaded is saved
[15:33] <Kartagis> nope
[15:33] <chiluk> petey ubuntu does not use that much space.. is there any chance that you could repartition the drive.. or resize the partitions?
[15:33] <Kartagis> tgm4883: nope
[15:34] <philinux> petey: it's not persistant then
[15:34] <chiluk> philinix the persistence is in home iirc
[15:34] <petey> philinux: is it possible to make it persistant without going through the process
[15:34] <Kartagis> tgm4883: I should click on 'mirror displays' ?
[15:34] <petey> chiluk: not currently, i would have to do it after work
[15:34] <she_dyed> zrzerenato: thats a big L
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> tush: could check the creative linux site, they may have a guide. Creative stuff is far from easy to setup, or worth it
[15:34] <tgm4883> Kartagis, is the sony tv on the right(direction) side of your other display
[15:34] <r4f3> i got it!
[15:34] <Kartagis> tgm4883: yes
[15:34] <r4f3> i found it
[15:34] <r4f3> thanks anyway!
[15:34] <tgm4883> Kartagis, are you using unity?
[15:35] <Kartagis> tgm4883: no, cairo-dock
[15:35] <petey> be right back, thanks guys
[15:35] <tgm4883> Kartagis, hmm.
[15:35] <Kartagis> tgm4883: I can switch to unity if need be
[15:35] <chiluk> petey you might not be able to do it.  unless you are willing to buy another drive.
[15:35] <chiluk> or find someone with a real install that can reflash your drive
[15:35] <tgm4883> Kartagis, are you able to open the monitors app on the sony screen after you connect it?
[15:36] <chiluk> petey are you using loopback iso's right now or did you use startup disk creator?
[15:36] <Kartagis> tgm4883: nope, only the desktop shows on the tv
[15:36] <cloudgeek> on 12.04 lts, installing vim 7.3.888 using apt-get ! how
[15:36] <ubuntuaddicted> when I add a torrent to the web interface of transmission, the user and persmissions are 116 and avahi and I can't interact at all with it since permission are rwxrwsr-x, what do I have to do so that my user can delete the file?
[15:37] <tgm4883> Kartagis, hmm, not sure then. If you were using unity, i was going to see if you could just move really fast to the other screen since there is a stickiness on the edges
[15:37] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, easy way is to use sudo chown a+w <the file>
[15:37] <chiluk> then you can delete it.
[15:38] <ubuntuaddicted> chiluk, i know that, i am speaking in terms so that I can interact with the file without having to chown them everytime I add a new torrent
[15:38] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, sorry that should have been sudo chmod a+w <the file>
[15:38] <rymate1234> Yo
[15:38] <rymate1234> I installed compiz fusion from apt-get
[15:38] <rymate1234> Launched it
[15:38] <rymate1234> But the icon isn't appearing in the kde notification tray
[15:39] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, check /etc/apache2
[15:39] <rymate1234> *system tray
[15:39] <Gato> anybody know what happend with bumblebee in ubuntu 13.04?
[15:39] <Gato> i cant install it
[15:39] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, my guess is that the web based transmission client has some permissions that you can set there.
[15:39] <zrzerenato> she_dyed: in my sftware center it says those package are installed, but doesnt show where, if i run dpkg-query -L virtualbox shows this package is not installed  VBox, VBoxAutostart, VBoxBalloonCtrl, VBoxHeadless, VBoxManage, VBoxSDL, VBoxTunctl, VBoxVRDP, VirtualBox, rdesktop-vrdp, vboxautostart, vboxballoonctrl, vboxheadless, vboxmanage, vboxsdl, vboxwebsrv, virtualbox
[15:39] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, I really have never played with it though.
[15:39] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, good luck
[15:40] <rymate1234> Ok
[15:40] <rymate1234> Fusion-icon has a segmentation fault on launch
[15:40] <she_dyed> zrzerenato: is it virtualbox, try typing in the searchbar the first few letters
[15:41] <she_dyed> or vbox iirc zrzerenato
[15:43] <zrzerenato> she_dyed: ok i got it.. but which package should i run to execute the program?
[15:43] <dmz> help! :) i can't find add-apt-repository; just built brand new system and instlled python-software-properties and it only has a bunch of locales files
[15:43] <Kartagis> tgm4883: all is okay now, but it's too small :S
[15:44] <TK-999> dmz: The command is not found?
[15:44] <tgm4883> Kartagis, sounds like resolution, which is normal, as you are on a TV now. you should look up dpi settings
[15:45] <Gato> can you help me? how can i install bumblebee on ubuntu 13.04??
[15:45] <Kartagis> tgm4883: I tried 1280x800, got "could not assing CRCT's to outputs"
[15:45] <tgm4883> Gato, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[15:46] <dmz> TK-999 nm too many terminal windows open; was on wrong server :)
[15:46] <chiluk> dmz, it looks like something is corrupted.
[15:46] <tgm4883> Kartagis, that is resolution, you need to change dpi
[15:46] <chiluk> because when I dpkg -L python-software-properties   I don't see any locale files
[15:46] <chiluk> dmz, hah
[15:46] <Kartagis> tgm4883: is DPI also on display settings? I don't have it if so
[15:47] <tgm4883> Kartagis, no, you'll need to manually configure it. I don't recall offhand how to do that, but I think it's in xorg.conf
[15:48] <ladislaw> i have both ubuntu and mac connected to wifi.  I'd like to transfer some of the files from my ubuntu machine to the mac. How do i do this?
[15:49] <she_dyed> ladislaw: can they ping each other
[15:49] <ladislaw> let me see
[15:49] <Gato> thank you tgm4883
[15:49] <tgm4883> Gato, yw
[15:53] <ubuntuaddicted> not sure how to handle permissions and owner with the transmission-daemon. anyone else use it?
[15:53] <ubuntuaddicted> the other tricky part is that it's writing data to a NFS shared drive if that matters.
[15:54] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, what user ends up owning the file?
[15:54] <ubuntuaddicted> chiluk, no idea, it's a number. 116
[15:54] <ubuntuaddicted> chiluk, group is 126
[15:55] <chiluk> that tells me you are likely using nfsv3.
[15:55] <tgm4883> what user is 116 on the machine that is running transmission-daemon
[15:55] <ubuntuaddicted> tgm4883, how can I find that out? it's more or less a headless server
[15:55] <ubuntuaddicted> im logged in over ssh
[15:56] <tgm4883> ubuntuaddicted, 'cat passwd | grep 116'
[15:56] <chunkyhead> when i click on check updates, it tells me failed to download repos info. help
[15:57] <chiluk> chunkyhead, do you have any extra repos installed that are no longer available?
[15:57] <ladislaw> she_dyed: yes
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: run:  sudo apt-get update     use http://paste.ubuntu.com to host the output
[15:57] <chunkyhead> chiluk, how do i check that
[15:57] <chiluk> chunkyhead, i guess the first thing would be to determine which repo is failing.
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: the output of the command I gave will tell us what we needed
[15:58] <chiluk> chunkyhead, if you scroll up in update manager it should tell you which repo is failing.
[15:58] <chunkyhead> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5716316/ ActionParsnip
[15:59] <chunkyhead> chiluk, check pastbin http://paste.ubuntu.com/5716316/
[15:59] <she_dyed> ladislaw: ftp is one option
[15:59] <she_dyed> ladislaw: you might already have something similar installed
[16:00] <ladislaw> like?
[16:00] <chunkyhead> chiluk, ActionParsnip how to fix repos then?
[16:00] <she_dyed> your gui filemanager might be able to 'see' the other machine
[16:00] <she_dyed> and you can copy n paste or drag n drop
[16:00] <she_dyed> ladislaw: ^
[16:01] <ubuntuaddicted> tgm 116 = debian-transmission:x:116:126::/home/debian-transmission:/bin/false
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: what is the output of:  grep -R distro /etc/apt/*
[16:01] <chiluk> so ubuntuaddicted if I were you I would create a debian-transmission group with the gid of 126 on your machine
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:01] <chunkyhead> ActionParsnip, permission denied, shall i run that in sudo?
[16:01] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, then add your user to debian-transmission group
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> chiluk: your user will have read access to the files (excepyt the gpg file, this is normal)
[16:03] <chiluk> ActionParsnip, I'll let you handle it, I never use transmission-daemon
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: ^
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> chiluk: sorry, was wrong target
[16:04] <chunkyhead> ActionParsnip,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5716329/
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: then you will need to run:  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   and swap every occurrence of "[distro]" to "precise"
[16:05] <B-ZaR> could someone help me or point me to a more suitable channel? I'm trying to  connect two wiimotes to my ubuntu 12.04 desktop using the xwiimote/hid-wiimote route. Both pair with the system nicely and one (either one, the one connected first) connects and works as expected, but the other just keeps blinking the LEDs. I've traced the problem using dmesg into "sysfs: cannot create duplicate filename '/class/power_supply/wiimote_battery'". The file seems to be ...
[16:05] <B-ZaR> ... created when the first wiimote is connected and prevents the second from being connected properly. Any ideas? Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?
[16:06] <chunkyhead> ActionParsnip, can you tell me what exactly is wrong here so i understand waht exactly is it that i am doing
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> B-ZaR: I'd report a bug
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: you have added some bad lines to the file and it is tripping up the package system
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: its text find and replace, nothing technical at all
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: I don't see what isn't to understand....
[16:07] <chunkyhead> no no
[16:07] <chunkyhead> i asked coz i dont remember messing around with sources.list
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: find '[distro]' and change it for the word 'precise'
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: well, something or someone has
[16:08] <ubuntuaddicted> chiluk, how do I make sure first that group 126 doesn't exist on the computer that I am mounting the NFS share to?
[16:08] <B-ZaR> ActionParsnip: ok
[16:08] <chunkyhead> i am the only one who uses this pc ActionParsnip yeah i did that saving and updating now let me try
[16:13] <_TryX_> hey
[16:14] <chunkyhead> solved the problem, one more thing when i type sudo shutdown now it gives me this error "disablling power mgmt.. plymouth:26742) WARNING: command line dbus-launch --autolanch=2234alotOfNumbers.....
[16:14] <ubuntuaddicted> chiluk, i added the group named "transmission" and made the group id 126. when I issue cat /etc/passwd | grep 126 nothing appears? do I need to restart the machine for it to show?
[16:15] <ubuntuaddicted> chiluk, i did it through the users and groups GUI
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: does the system actually turn off though?
[16:16] <chunkyhead>  nope
[16:16] <chunkyhead> it's stuck there ActionParsnip
[16:16] <ubuntuaddicted> ActionParsnip, cat /etc/issue shows Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: have you looked online for what this may mean?
[16:16] <chunkyhead> forever unless i force restart ActionParsnip
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: sweet :)
[16:17] <alnkpa2> hey guys, I'd like to use a package in a PPA that isn't avalaible for the newest ubuntu version, I added the PPA via add-apt-repository. how do i do that?
[16:17] <chunkyhead> ActionParsnip, i didnt know what to google, :P
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: the error you just pasted is a good start...no?
[16:17] <someoneelse_> Hello. I am using Life USB with Xubuntu, since my HDD was broken. The problem is, pendrive is 8GB big, but the system isn't using this and yells about lack of space when I am trying to apt-get upgrade. Can it be helped?
[16:17] <chunkyhead> yeah will try that thanks haha ActionParsnip
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> alnkpa2: do what, use the add-apt-repository command?
[16:17] <tgm4883> alnkpa2, are you saying that the PPA contains the version you want for the distro you want?
[16:18] <alnkpa2> tgm4883: no, it has the version, but not for the distro
[16:19] <alnkpa2> ActionParsnip: use the package that's not for my distro
[16:19] <PlastikSpork> I am unable to view my Windows shared drives on my network by clicking "Browse Network" and then "Windows Network" in Nautilus.   I am however able to access my windows shared drives by connecting to smb://<IP_ADDRESS> or by mounting the drives permanently through fstab.
[16:19] <tgm4883> alnkpa2, thats not such a good idea usually
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> alnkpa2: do you mean for your release?
[16:20] <alnkpa2> tgm4883: i realize that but like to try
[16:20] <alnkpa2> ActionParsnip: yes
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> PlastikSpork: when you get access to the share, add the location as a bookmark
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> alnkpa2: there is a big difference
[16:21] <alnkpa2> ActionParsnip: sry
[16:21] <chunkyhead> no help on google at all buddy ActionParsnip
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> alnkpa2: the distribution is still Ubuntu, even if it is Precise, Quantal...whatever. Those are releases, a different distro would be Debian, Fedora, Mandriva, Gentoo etc
[16:21] <PlastikSpork> ActionParsnip I ll try that
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: do you have the latest BIOS
[16:21] <alnkpa2> ActionParsnip: yes, sorry
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> alnkpa2: mixing debs between releases isn't advised, the package will probably install but the results may be weird (or ok)
[16:22] <chunkyhead> ActionParsnip, sorry not fond of flashing BIOS, have lost 2 computers thanks to that. :|
[16:22] <alnkpa2> ActionParsnip: i realize that, i want to try
[16:23] <tgm4883> alnkpa2, although I strongly suggest you don't do this, you would need to activate the repo for that specific release. Please note that this comes with the Oklahoma Warranty. If it breaks, you get to keep both pieces.
[16:23] <PlastikSpork> ActionParsnip:  Awesome!  Thank you very much... works great.... Now why am I not able to browse the network?
[16:23] <Monkey_b> hey guys... my server appears to have some type of malware on it, as my site is receiving complaints about a 'gakmail.htm' malware file in the web server, which ive tried to remove, and keeps resurfacing. i'm not sure whether this is malware sitting on the machine, or something else... any ideas what steps i can take to finding the culprit?
[16:23] <chunkyhead> and ActionParsnip this happened after i restored packages from my old 12.04 install using aptoncd, before that it was working fine
[16:23] <alnkpa2> tgm4883: what would break?
[16:24] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, sorry had to shower.
[16:24] <tgm4883> alnkpa2, depends on what you are attempting to install. I'm not going to guess what COULD break. I'm just saying that if anything does, you will be completely unsupported here
[16:24] <alnkpa2> alright
[16:24] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, /etc/passwd will only show you userid's
[16:24] <chiluk> cat /etc/group
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> PlastikSpork: no idea, I just use that method, much faster than clicking through the network
[16:25] <alnkpa2> to be verbose, I want to install glc from https://launchpad.net/%7Earand/+archive/ppa
[16:25] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, cat /etc/group | grep 126 and make sure your username is listed after the last colon
[16:26] <PlastikSpork> ActionParsnip:  thanks for that tip though works good.
[16:27] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, assuming your user is listed in group 126 then you will have to log out and log back in for the new group to take effect
[16:27] <ubuntuaddicted> chiluk, ok, i am doing something so can't log out at the moment. thanks for your help
[16:27] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, you are welcome I hope it works.
[16:28] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, basically you need to add your user to the group that the file gets created under
[16:28] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, then you should be gtg
[16:28] <Monkey_b> is there a way to find out what program created a file?
[16:29] <Monkey_b> something in my system is suspicious and i suspect either malware, or a exploit in the web server or one of the apps its serving
[16:29] <Monkey_b> but i cant be sure
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Monkey_b: unless its logged (something like tripwire), then no
[16:29] <ladislaw> how would enable folder sharing through a terminal?
[16:29] <Monkey_b> ActionParsnip: if tripwire helps me find out i have no problem installing it
[16:29] <RageRiot> hello, I installed a lib and wish to remove it so I can install the latest release but I'm unsure exactly how. it is called libusb 1.0 so I tried apt-get remove libusb-1.0 but it want to remove alot of other libs as well. sorry noob at work but I gotta start some where :P
[16:29] <tgm4883> chiluk, well, depends on the group. He probably should map users properly
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> ladislaw: you can use /etc/samba/smb.conf to defnie samba shares
[16:30] <alnkpa2> tgm4883: can i find the dependencies before i installed that deprecated package?
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Monkey_b: I believe it will be able to tell you, it will watch folders for changes and gererate alerts. Check it out first, make sure its going to fit the bill
[16:30] <chiluk> tgm4883, that is mapping them properly since it sounds like he's using nfsv3
[16:30] <RageRiot> btw I installed the lib via downloading, compileing and installing manually
[16:31] <chiluk> tgm4883, if you want to explain how to do it "properly" go right ahead, I figured he just wanted it to work.  That and this is not my day job.
[16:31] <tgm4883> chiluk, eh, perhaps. It depends on which system which users are on. The users probably don't match the UID's on both systems
[16:32] <chiluk> tgm4883, that's not going to matter since the file gets created under the transmission-daemon uid on the server, and gets saved to the nfs share.
[16:32] <chiluk> tgm4883, whatever man, it should work... that's what the guy wanted.
[16:33] <LostInSpace> Hi all - hoping someone can help my rather lost ass :)
[16:33] <tgm4883> chiluk, I still think that is a really bad way to do it
[16:34] <tgm4883> chiluk, security wise, just adding your user to some random group isn't very good
[16:34] <mrjoel> hi guys.  Anyone got an idea on this?  When using touchscreen input on 13.04, i lose focus and can't click on anything in the unity desktop.  If I set the onscreen  keyboard program to "doubleclick," it properly refocuses on the desktop and selects the action (opening, closing something, minimize etc), but only for that one action.
[16:34] <chiluk> tgm4883, It's nfsv3... if you want to do it right he'd have to implement some sort of universal user system on his network
[16:34] <chiluk> tgm4883, that's not going to happen.
[16:34] <auronandace> !13.04 | mrjoel
[16:34] <mrjoel> thanks
[16:34] <chiluk> tgm4883, what security hole is he really opening himself up to?
[16:35] <chiluk> mrjoel have you searched launchpad yet?
[16:36] <tgm4883> chiluk, he would then have access to anything that group also had access to
[16:36] <LostInSpace> I am actually a total newb to Ubuntu. One of my companies now ex employees put it on a work computer and my job is to figure it out and get in to the files he put on the system. I've changed the pass but now when i attempt to log in it loops around. When going to the prompts i get "signature not found in user keyring perhaps try the interactive encryptfs-mount-private" but i cant find any decisive assistance with this error online
[16:36] <MestreLion> Can anyone help me with dbus-send ? I'm trying to use PackageKit... I have a working snippet in python that works, but a similar one using dbus-send does not:  http://sprunge.us/EbAb?bash  help please?
[16:36] <chiluk> tgm4883, which is fine because he's on his NFS server which is where transmission saves it's files.
[16:37] <chiluk> and he wants access to everything that transmissions saves on his nfs server.
[16:37] <tgm4883> LostInSpace, bad news, you can't get it. Looks like it's encrypted
[16:37] <LostInSpace> I was worried that i was going to hit a brick wall on this I have to say
[16:38] <MestreLion> here is also a dbus-monitor result, thy look very similar: http://sprunge.us/LVLf?bash
[16:39] <mrjoel> chiluk, closest bug i could find was https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1099289
[16:39] <tgm4883> chiluk, I still don't think that is fine. It doesn't matter what transmission is doing at this point. If it's marking the files as owned by the transmission group (id 126), but the NFS server has www-data as id 126, he now has access to everything that the www-data group does
[16:39] <Ari-Yang> I have a question, how do I accurately test my frame rate? I heard that you can't really test it with glxgears....
[16:39] <MestreLion> can anyone please sppt why python works but dbus-send does not?
[16:39] <Ari-Yang> I'm ubuntu 12.10
[16:39] <MestreLion> Ari-Yang: frame rate is very application-dependent... it is better to benchmark it in the game/app you want to test
[16:40] <Ari-Yang> what do you mean by 'benchmark'?
[16:40] <chiluk> tgm4883, true.. i'm assuming ubuntuaddicted didn't do anything stupid like just add himself to the www-data group.  since he mentioned that the uid and gid's didn't resolve to anything.
[16:40] <virus> u mark the bench
[16:40] <Ari-Yang> if you mean by using the application's fps test, I don't really have one....
[16:40] <MestreLion> a performance test... isn't what you're looking for?
[16:40] <ubuntuaddicted> chiluk, whahhh?
[16:40] <chiluk> tgm4883, which would mean that that gid is not in use on the server.
[16:40] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, read the back chat between me and tgm4883
[16:40] <MestreLion> Ari-Yang: so what exactly you want to measure?
[16:40] <tgm4883> chiluk, ah that is true, I forgot he said that the GID didn't map to anything
[16:41] <chiluk> tgm4883, no worries man.. you caught me yesterday
[16:41] <Ari-Yang> would running lets say a video and checking the system monitor (processes) work?
[16:41] <tony_lech> Hey guys, in 12.10 I have to enter more than one "Additional DNS servers" in my connection's IPv4 settings. What character do I use to separate multiple in that textbox?
[16:41] <Ari-Yang> @ MestreLion I'd like to check my fps while playing a 10-bit video
[16:41] <ubuntuaddicted> tgm4883, chiluk the only group 126 is the transmission one I created
[16:42] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, cool that's what tgm4883 feared was not the case.
[16:42] <MestreLion> Ari-Yang: use the player's fps test, if any
[16:42] <chiluk> ubuntuaddicted, you should be fine...
[16:42] <she_dyed> Ari-Yang: am not sure if system monitor gives fps
[16:42] <Ari-Yang> but it doesn't have one...
[16:42] <MestreLion> Ari-Yang: so how can you measure it?
[16:43] <Ari-Yang> I'm not sure, was hoping there was another way but it doesn't look like there is
[16:43] <MestreLion> how would it be? there is no such thing as a "system fps"
[16:43] <she_dyed> what about glxgears Ari-Yang
[16:43] <virus> holo
[16:43] <Ari-Yang> @ she_dyed I heard that isn't really accurate I don't think
[16:44] <she_dyed> yeh but its only effective for comapring against glxgears
[16:44] <she_dyed> lol
[16:44] <MestreLion> she_dyed: that would measure glxhgears's fps, not the "system's" or his 10-bit video's
[16:44] <she_dyed> yes
[16:44] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, you can install glx-spheres from a ppa if you'd prefer that.
[16:45] <Ari-Yang> lets say I get lag on a 10-bit video in fullscreen.... any solutions of fixing that?
[16:45] <MestreLion> Ari-Yang: even if it *was* accurate, it would be completely unrelated to your video playback
[16:45] <Ari-Yang> *nod*
[16:45] <she_dyed> right, onec the clip is loaded, thats it
[16:45] <MestreLion> each player has its own fps, depending on the odec it uses, etc
[16:45] <Ari-Yang> oh, and back on windows 7, I was able to play 10-bit encodes and not get lag in fullscreen, but on ubuntu I do
[16:46] <Ari-Yang> why is that?
[16:46] <she_dyed> different drivers
[16:46] <Ari-Yang> is there a certain setting I have to have enabled/disabled?
[16:46] <Ari-Yang> atm I'm using the open source drivers...
[16:46] <MestreLion> it can be several reasons.... different drivers, different desktop, different player
[16:47] <anonymous> hi
[16:47] <Ari-Yang> I'm not using the proprietary drivers (fglrx) because I get loads of tearing...
[16:47] <Ari-Yang> and I'm not sure if it's something I have to do in my xorg.conf (which doesn't look like I even have one)...
[16:47] <Guest861> im in anonimous legion
[16:47] <MestreLion> Ari-Yang:  so you can try a different driver, or a different player, or different codecs, or a different desktop (unity 2d, for example)
[16:47] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, if you get tearing, have you tried turning on v-sync in the fglrx drivers. *(chiluk is not a fan of amd)
[16:47] <Guest861> fukk
[16:47] <Ari-Yang> atm I'm on cinnamon classic
[16:48] <Ari-Yang> @ chiluk yeah vsync doesn't even work
[16:48] <Ari-Yang> even when enabled
[16:48] <Ari-Yang> afaik 12.10 doesn't have unity 2d
[16:48] <MestreLion> try different players then
[16:48] <Ari-Yang> yeah I tried that, didn't work =/
[16:48] <MestreLion> sometimes VLC can work better than totem for a given media type
[16:48] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, welcome to the world of closed source drivers on an open source OS.. I'll probably get flamed, but I have loved my Nvidia card with vdpau.
[16:49] <Ari-Yang> no, vlc can't even play the video lol
[16:49] <Ari-Yang> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=vuUP6tdx
[16:49] <she_dyed> dont run x, mplayer on framebuffer
[16:49] <Ari-Yang> my opengl renderer ^
[16:49] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, amd has something similar.  I think it's called va-api
[16:49] <MestreLion> but, whatever you do, there is little point trying different settings if you don't have a consistent way of *measuring* it
[16:49] <virus> yea
[16:49] <virus> banshee is good
[16:49] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, you might want to google for va-api 12.10.
[16:49] <virus> try it
[16:49] <Ari-Yang> va-api? a driver?
[16:50] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, va-api is a way of offloading the video decoding onto the graphics card.
[16:50] <Ari-Yang> even when using an open source driver?
[16:50] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, you will need the fglrx drivers,
[16:50] <Ari-Yang> interesting...
[16:51] <Ari-Yang> but wait
[16:51] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, as I said I don't have much experience with AMD... I've sort of avoided them ever since vdpau came out for nvidia
[16:51] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, is there more?
[16:51] <MestreLion> there is a tear-free option in modern fglrx (post-12.6)
[16:51] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, like maybe a free offer?
[16:51] <Ari-Yang> isn't the point of using the fglrx drivers is to use the graphics card?
[16:51] <MestreLion> err.. yes
[16:51] <Ari-Yang> so how come I need va-api?
[16:52] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, yes the fglrx drivers enable things like va-api, but you need to tell the decoding application to use va-api
[16:52] <Ari-Yang> I mean I get loads of tearing even when I enable vsync in catalyst control center
[16:52] <MestreLion> va-api uses more of your GPU
[16:52] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, think of it like directx for videos
[16:52] <Ari-Yang> ah I see
[16:52] <servantes> Hi guys, Looking for some help. Just did a fresh install after switching drives because I figured I would start anew.
[16:52] <Ari-Yang> current opengl info http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=HAL4cWji
[16:53] <servantes> I have two issues. The first being that software-center does not work. It crashes. It loads for a second then disappears and crashes. I have a pastebin of the whole error it gives when launched from console
[16:53] <servantes> Software-center isnt a big issue for me, as I dont really use it. I stick to terminal software for that stuff, dpkg and apt mainly. But being its one of the main focal points of the distro, it should be working
[16:54] <Ari-Yang> @ chiluk seeign soe posts saying to just install vaninfo form software center
[16:54] <servantes> Here is the error software-center gives, http://pastebin.com/eajDx7eD
[16:54] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, there you go... good luck.. you are now beyond me.
[16:54] <Ari-Yang> lol okay
[16:54] <Ari-Yang> okay so va-api doesn't work with open source drivers
[16:54] <Ari-Yang> only with fglrx
[16:55] <servantes> Secondly, my other issue is with google-chrome. Now I have installed chrome via the official package hundreds of time in linux, in debian, arch, ubuntu, etc and have never had an issue
[16:55] <chiluk> Ari-Yang, hopefully you get va-api working ... keep in mind you may have to use a particular program that supports it
[16:55] <servantes> Well, today I try to install it.  A lot of things can be fixed just by talking to users of the distro as a whole
[16:56] <chiluk> servantes, google is your friend http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/fix-google-chrome-cant-be-installed-in.html
[16:56] <servantes> God, this reminds why I cant stand this channel...
[16:56] <tgm4883> !13.04 | servantes
[16:57] <chiluk> servantes, I hope that helps man.
[16:57] <h00k> servantes: there's also the forums and askubuntu if you're not a fan of the channel
[16:57] <servantes> ya, I havent googled it myself
[16:57] <servantes> chiluk, thx though
[16:57] <chiluk> servantes, no prob... good luck.
[16:57] <servantes> h00k, I prefer live support. I am well aware of ubuntus other support services. Ive been using it since badger
[16:59] <xuanfeng> hello
[16:59] <xuanfeng> chinaz
[17:00] <Ari-Yang> there's no wa of changing the opengl vendor string to something "better", is there?
[17:00] <h00k> !cn | xuanfeng
[17:00] <xuanfeng> 不要
[17:01] <xuanfeng> cn不行 里面没有讲技术性的东西，，虽然我不懂英文 但是我会努力学习的
[17:01] <genii-around> Hm.
[17:01] <honey> hello
[17:01] <honey> test
[17:02] <ThinkT510> !test | honey
[17:02] <honey> well.. lol
[17:02] <Ari-Yang> currently, my opengl vendor string is x.org
[17:02] <Devlin> herro
[17:03] <Phryq> hey
[17:03] <Devlin> I'm having the weirdest little problem with ubuntu
[17:04] <Devlin> it is being slow to display graphics on screen, like the refresh is slow enough to watch draw down the screen like in firefox and hexchat
[17:04] <Phryq> it's invading your dreams and making you smell anchovies from the future?
[17:04] <Devlin> I'm trying to figure it out
[17:04] <Devlin> but no dice
[17:04] <Phryq> Oh, less weird than I had assumed
[17:04] <honey> impacts me.
[17:04] <cuddylier> Hi, I'm having an issue with vhosts for apache. Do I just define my vhosts in the sites-available directory or do I need to in the httpd.conf file as well?
[17:05] <Devlin> i've tried using the O/S driver(nouveau) and the binary nvidia driver and neither has any effect
[17:05] <bluesun_> set
[17:06] <Devlin> the card is a GeForce GT430
[17:06] <MestreLion> Ari-Yang: why would you want to change vendor string?
[17:08] <Phryq> hey, if a program is not responding in ubuntu, how do I force it to close?
[17:08] <Phryq> anything like a task manager?
[17:08] <MestreLion> Phryq: system monitor?
[17:08] <Devlin> Phryq, alt+f2
[17:08] <Devlin> gnome-system-monitor
[17:08] <Devlin> right-click offending application, kill
[17:08] <bluesun_> set
[17:09] <MestreLion> Devlin: <super> monitor <enter> is easier
[17:09] <Devlin> oh?
[17:09] <MestreLion> and does not require to remember package or executable names
[17:09] <Phryq> system monitor worked; thanks
[17:10] <MestreLion> Devlin: I mean using the dash menu instead of alt+f2 to find apps
[17:10] <Devlin> yeah
[17:10] <WoNG> wt r yous talkin about
[17:10] <gh_luk> Hi! I have a few Computers that I would like to set up with Lubuntu. There is an Ethernet Network, however, the internet is very slow. most of the time<10kB/s. I would like a easy solution, that apt packets are only downloaded once and stored e.g. on a network drive. If the same packet is needed by an other client, the packet is taken from there. I would like, that updates are still supplied...
[17:10] <gh_luk> ...automatically and that the synaptics packet manager can still be used. Do you know a solution to this problem? I was reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline. can you recommend one of the described solutions for me?
[17:11] <tgm4883> gh_luk, you want squid-deb-proxy and squid-deb-proxy-client
[17:11] <cuddylier> When I try to reload apache2 I just get http://paste.ubuntu.com/5716494/ Why is it saying there are no virtual hosts? Can anyone help?
[17:11] <cuddylier> I have other sites in the sites-available folder
[17:12] <Ari-Yang> @ MestreLion maybe because x.org isn't one of the best?
[17:12] <WoNG> so
[17:13] <ThinkT510> Ari-Yang: what other option do you have? wayland? mir?
[17:13] <hillybilly> so
[17:14] <hillybilly> sudo
[17:14] <MestreLion> Ari-Yang: maybe, but it's the one that provides the X system all your desktop is built upon
[17:14] <Ari-Yang> @ ThinkT510 now that you put it that way....... the vendor string is x.org, so that means that it's reading xorg.conf? if it is, how come I can't find my xorg.conf file?
[17:14] <Ari-Yang> brb
[17:14] <hillybilly> wt r u using
[17:15] <MestreLion> Ari-Yang: the string merely reflects the backend your driver uses. chaning the scting alone is pointless
[17:15] <adamk> Ari-Yang: The vendor string has nothing to do with xorg.conf.
[17:15] <MestreLion> Ari-Yang: the string merely reflects the backend your driver uses. changing the string alone is pointless
[17:15] <MestreLion> and most video drivers now can work without a xorg.conf (although they do read it if it exists)
[17:17] <hillybilly> any1 need hhelp
[17:17] <MestreLion> so if you want to use a graphics backend in Linux other than X, your current options are... none. But the development team of Wayland and Mir are accepting volunteers
[17:17] <lalondong> Guys
[17:17] <lalondong> i'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[17:18] <lalondong> I have only 2 gb for RAM
[17:18] <toddaaro> anyone around who can help with USB keyboard problems? My bios has no trouble detecting them but my Ubuntu installer won't, so I'm completely stuck
[17:18] <lalondong> i've tried everything to slow it down and make my Ubuntu faster.. but still nothings much are changed..
[17:18] <MestreLion> lalondong: what are you using to measure performance?
[17:19] <Gnea> I'm running a dual-display with an nvidia card to a DVI monitor and HDMI.  I used the nvidia-settings to set it so that there is a separate X server on both displays.  It works, but the HDMI display screen blanks after only a few seconds.  How can I fix that so that it screen blanks after 20 minutes of inactivity?
[17:19] <lalondong> How to do that?
[17:19] <Gnea> lalondong: replace unity with something else
[17:19] <lalondong> changing the desktop environment
[17:19] <MestreLion> lalondong: you said it was slow. if you want to improve it, first you must have a consistent way of measing it, so you can compare results
[17:19] <lalondong> ?
[17:20] <Gnea> yes
[17:20] <Gnea> lalondong: like LXDE, E17 or even KDE
[17:20] <hillybilly> gnome
[17:20] <Gnea> gnome is another resource hog
[17:20] <Gnea> I wouldn't trust it
[17:20] <hillybilly> gnome is good
[17:21] <Gnea> not really
[17:21] <lalondong> but that would automaticly update it right? i mean what type of desktop environment that actually faster than Unity?
[17:21] <Gnea> lalondong: just about any, really
[17:21] <MestreLion> Gnea: changing DE is a major operating for a new user... please don't suggest other DEs besides the default one unless you're willing to assist the user in the whole process of changing it
[17:21] <Gnea> lalondong: unity and gnome are resource hogs... they were programmed for easy functionality, not to run on slow systems
[17:21] <lalondong> The faster for my stupid 2 gb ram and looks pretty cool..?
[17:21] <hillybilly> u have to write in commands
[17:22] <Gnea> MestreLion: settle down
[17:22] <gh_luk> tgm4883, thank you! Using a proxy with cache will have even more advantages for my environment
[17:22] <Gnea> lalondong: I would suggest LXDE or Enlightenment
[17:22] <hillybilly> and download apt
[17:22] <tgm4883> gh_luk, yw
[17:22] <Gnea> !lxde
[17:22] <MestreLion> lalondong: 2GB is more than enough to run Unity fine, your bottleneck is not memory
[17:22] <Gnea> lalondong: what video card do you have?
[17:22] <lalondong> but it took all of my memory..
[17:23] <lalondong> Intel HD 3000
[17:23] <MestreLion> lalondong: "took all your memory" ? Out of the box Ubuntu does not occupy more than 500MB
[17:24] <MestreLion> 64-bit may use more
[17:24] <hillybilly> i downloaded players and all accesories for ubuntu on terminal
[17:24] <cuddylier> When I try to reload apache2 I just get http://paste.ubuntu.com/5716494/ Why is it saying there are no virtual hosts? Can anyone help? I have other sites in the sites-available folder.
[17:24] <Gnea> lalondong: what tool did you use to measure that unity took all of the memory?
[17:24] <lalondong> System monitor
[17:24] <lalondong> and it shows 900 mb of 1.8 gb