[05:40]  * PatrickDickey has beeon on Ubuntu for a few years, and I still have questions--and problems.
[05:40] <logi> ok :D
[05:41] <orbitwhite> slackware was a good start for me, but laziness brought me to ubuntu
[05:42] <PatrickDickey> I've played with slackware a bit. Only for recompiling kernels.
[05:42] <logi> what's the difference of an alternate installer from the desktop?
[05:42] <Brombomb> dang it broke my system
[05:42] <orbitwhite> it includes much to play with u don't want actually as for me =)
[05:43] <PatrickDickey> It's just a different type of installer logi. You can try either one. The "desktop" gives you a chance to try it before you buy it, so to speak. With the alternate, you're installing it.
[05:43] <PatrickDickey> Brombomb: what broke your system?
[05:43] <logi> what do you recommend?
[05:43] <Brombomb> system disk check "Fix itself"
[05:43] <zebaszp> go
[05:43] <PatrickDickey> logi: Try the desktop one first. Then install from there. If that doesn't work, then get the alternate.
[05:44] <logi> it can always be dual booted with windows right?
[05:44] <PatrickDickey> logi: Yep. That's what a lot of people start out with. It will handle everything for you.
[05:44] <zebaszp> it's
[05:44] <logi> ok thanks.
[05:44] <orbitwhite> Brombomb, sometimes when something goes bad with hdd, fsck finishes it to the end
[05:45] <PatrickDickey> logi: You'll get to a screen that says something like "Ubuntu has detected another operating system." Choose the option to install alongside Windows.
[05:45] <logi> ok thanks
[05:45] <orbitwhite> PatrickDickey, won't it install on ntfs this way?
[05:46] <zebaszp> orbitwhite,
[05:46] <orbitwhite> i mean on mapped ntfs partition as squashfs image or something
[05:46] <PatrickDickey> orbitwhite: no, it will repartition the space, and make that ext4, I think. I've always created my partitions first, but I don't think we want to go there tonight. ;-)
[05:46] <zebaszp> if
[05:46] <orbitwhite> zebaszp, ?
[05:47] <zebaszp> the
[05:47] <PatrickDickey> orbitwhite: are you thinking about the wubi install maybe?
[05:47] <zebaszp> it
[05:47] <orbitwhite> PatrickDickey, oh probably yeah
[05:48] <angelx> HEY'
[05:48]  * orbitwhite afraid of zebaszp
[05:48] <PatrickDickey> zebaszp: please type everything out then hit enter. (If you are then please forgive me. I'm only seeing little bits).
[05:48] <zebaszp> i'm
[05:48] <zebaszp> maybe
[05:49] <zebaszp> either
[05:49] <zebaszp> *can't
[05:50] <zebaszp> either
[05:51] <zebaszp> I
[05:52] <zebaszp> G210,
[05:52] <zebaszp> (and
[05:52] <PatrickDickey> zebaszp: yes or no, are you typing complete sentences before you hit enter?
[05:53] <threex5> hi, does anyone have experience with lirc? I've got it working with pulseaudio, vlc and xbmc, but now I'm trying to get it to work with nightingale
[05:53] <zebaszp> I
[05:53] <zebaszp> yes
[05:53] <android> nope
[05:53] <zebaszp> and
[05:53] <android> only irssi
[05:53] <PatrickDickey> threex5: I've never used it with nigtingale. Have you looked at their site for information?
[05:54] <threex5> PatrickDickey, I have, and I've asked about it in the forums, but no luck
[05:54] <threex5> i am able to control playback via command line
[05:54] <threex5> but i haven't figured out how to map those commands in .lircrc
[05:56] <PatrickDickey> http://www.lirc.org/html/configure.html threex5
[05:56] <logi> hi patrick
[05:56] <zebaszp> hello? i switched clients, does this one work properly?
[05:56] <logi> i was planning to burn the installer.
[05:56] <PatrickDickey> And threex5 it probably is only a windows plugin, like they said in the forum. In which case, you probably won't get anywhere.
[05:57] <logi> what dvd burner you may suggest?
[05:57] <PatrickDickey> zebaszp: yes, it works perfectly. I was starting to think you were a person of few words. :)
[05:57] <threex5> right, PatrickDickey, the lirc support add-on will not work
[05:57] <PatrickDickey> logi are you on Windows or linux?
[05:57] <Brombomb> woohoo rebooting 3x fixed it
[05:57] <logi> windows
[05:57] <threex5> I have gotten the command line add-on to work, though
[05:57] <PatrickDickey> threex5: check LIrc's sourceforge page. they may have the configuration file for you.
[05:58] <Sylphie> logi \ nero is good
[05:58] <zebaszp> ok, I'll burn the other client, then ask for help as planned
[05:58] <PatrickDickey> logi, isoburn is good.  Is there any way of retrieving said file?
[06:02] <qbitza> fstab line: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/data      ext4   errors=remount-ro 0       1
[06:02] <Sylphie> zebaszp \ does win 8 allow you to use your own email apps?
[06:03] <undefined_> where i can find installed software folder (ubuntu) please :)
[06:03] <undefined_> ?
[06:03] <PatrickDickey> logi: from what I'm seeing, you should be able to change the speed right before you click the "Burn!" button.
[06:03] <undefined_> some one help.. thanks
[06:03] <zebaszp> yeah, it's Windows 7 plus the silly "Modern UI"
[06:03] <logi> i think so.
[06:03] <zebaszp> an slightly more unstable, I think
[06:03] <PatrickDickey> undefined_: It depends on how you installed the software. Typically it's in /usr or /opt.  What exactly are you trying to do?
[06:03] <zebaszp> performance does improve, though, boot speeds are quite something
[06:04] <Sylphie> zebaszp \ in that case, there are other good (and free) email apps that do support pop3
[06:04] <undefined_> going to xchat folder
[06:04] <undefined_> :)
[06:04] <logi> do i need to install drivers after installing the OS?
[06:04] <orbitwhite> qbitza, maybe if u won't find any solution u will consider R-Linux tool
[06:04] <zebaszp> yeah, I know, but it struck me as odd finding the option for POP3 in the default app just mocked the user
[06:04] <PatrickDickey> !manual | undefined_ This manual is a good "Getting Started with Ubuntu" and applies in a general sense to most linux distributions.
[06:04] <zebaszp> I don't need POP, I use gmail
[06:04] <dr_willis> logi:  depends on the hardware. many peopleneed video and wireless card drivers
[06:04] <undefined_> patrick tell me where can i find xchat folder to add scripts XD
[06:04] <qbitza> orbitwhite, R-Linux tool? Do you have a link?
[06:04] <undefined_> as quiq as you can
[06:05] <PatrickDickey> logi: For the most part, they should be installed during installation. Some may not though.
[06:05] <logi> ohh i see
[06:05] <undefined_> pleaase XD
[06:05] <Sylphie> zebaszp \ oh, I thought lack of pop3 was one win 8 complaint to voiced
[06:05] <orbitwhite> qbitza, http://www.r-tt.com/free_linux_recovery/index.shtml
[06:05] <PatrickDickey> undefined_: Sorry, I don't have xChat installed. I can google it for you though.
[06:05] <qbitza> orbitwhite, Thanks will investigate
[06:06] <zebaszp> either way, Windows 8 aside, I need help to get my Ubuntu back :(
[06:06] <undefined_> what do you have as a client ?
[06:06] <orbitwhite> qbitza, i suggested because there is r-studio tool which is great as far as i heard from people i trust in such questions
[06:06] <orbitwhite> seems like this one is free analog and equivalent
[06:06] <zebaszp> G210 (DVI and VGA ports), CRT VGA monitor; I've been using a DVI to VGA adapter for no good reason, but it's gone faulty, now Ubuntu doesn't recognize the VGA port
[06:07] <logi> do you recommend using the Wubi?
[06:07] <qbitza> orbitwhite, Thanks
[06:07] <undefined_> i'm using wubi
[06:07] <undefined_> XD
[06:07] <logi> is it reliable?
[06:07] <PatrickDickey> undefined_: they are located in your home directory, inside of a hidden directory. Open a terminal, and type cd .xchat2
[06:07] <zebaszp> logi, wubi is somewhat unstable and has lower performance compared to a full ubuntu installation
[06:08] <undefined_> : ) :D thanks .. i wish you a beautiful life and God helps you like u did to me :) :)
[06:08] <PatrickDickey> undefined_: I'm sorry. :) (wubi is bad). Still the folder will be in your home folder. cd ~/.xchat2/
[06:08] <logi> but it install the files the same as the full installation installs?
[06:08] <orbitwhite> who on earth needs wubi, just asking of curiousity
[06:08] <undefined_> many tnx.. :)
[06:08] <undefined_> cd ~/.xchat2/
[06:08] <zebaszp> people afraid of computing
[06:08] <undefined_> many tnx
[06:08] <PatrickDickey> logi it's not good. It's a bad hack way of getting Ubuntu alongside Windows.
[06:08] <zebaszp> afraid of messing up their computers
[06:08] <undefined_> i'll tell you the results later :D
[06:08] <logi> ohh
[06:09] <logi> im just curious
[06:09] <orbitwhite> computers is something one shouldn't touch at all if one is afraid of it =)
[06:09] <bazhang> !wubi | logi have a read then
[06:09] <dr_willis> all the complex little blinky lights
[06:10]  * PatrickDickey I haven't seen anyone successfully use wubi..  But that's just my .02 worth.
[06:10] <undefined_> downloads  keybindings.conf  scrollback  servlist_.conf
[06:10] <undefined_> where to go from here please
[06:10] <zebaszp> I don't mean to insist too much, but I do need help :(
[06:11] <PatrickDickey> undefined_: http://xchat.org/faq/#q218
[06:11] <PatrickDickey> zebaszp: what exactly is the issue you're having? If you said it before, I missed it. Sorry. :$
[06:11]  * undefined_ goin to   http://xchat.org/faq/#q218
[06:11] <Sylphie> zebaszp \ sounds like you need a new dvi>vga convertor, if you've got a vga monitor
[06:11] <zebaszp> I did mention it, but I can paste it again
[06:12] <zebaszp> I don't want a new adapter, the video card has a native VGA port which works fine on Windows but Ubuntu doesn't recognize it, which is why I'm trapped in this little hell
[06:13] <zebaszp> It used to work just fine before
[06:13] <PatrickDickey> zebaszp: Is it a nvidia or ati card?
[06:13] <zebaszp> nvidia g210
[06:13] <dr_willis> IF he says S3 im running.. ;)
[06:13]  * PatrickDickey has an S3 somewhere in a box.... Waiting for Spring cleaning.
[06:14] <Sylphie> zebaszp \ if you boot the install disc, does the video work?
[06:14] <dr_willis> Id be curious if older ubuntu's or other disrtos properly see the vga port and work.
[06:14]  * orbitwhite suggest to send a gift with s3 to dr_willis
[06:14] <orbitwhite> s*
[06:14] <zebaszp> oh god, I hadn't thought of that, how silly of me :P
[06:14] <zebaszp> my guess would be yes, since it worked before
[06:14] <PatrickDickey> I can say that Ubuntu 12.04 sees VGA ports and works. I've used it on my mythbuntu box. Up until about a month ago.
[06:15] <zebaszp> there must be some X.org misconfiguration or something
[06:15] <dr_willis> Try a 12.04 live cd - and see if it still works.. could be somthing  weird going on.
[06:15] <logi> what can you say about raring guys?
[06:15] <zebaszp> I'm using 12.10 32-bits
[06:15] <orbitwhite> i havn't experience such problem for 9 years
[06:15] <orbitwhite> lol
[06:15] <dr_willis> logi:  its a work in progress and in #ubuntu+1  ;)
[06:15] <dr_willis> a 9 yr old video card?
[06:15] <PatrickDickey> logi: wait for about five months before trying it. ;)
[06:16] <logi> i heard they already released a beta version
[06:16] <logi> have u tried it?
[06:16] <PatrickDickey> wb BONG_IT. How's your computer coming along?
[06:16] <Brombomb> 'start-stop-daemon -x /usr/local/bin/gmediarender -c pi:audio -S -- -f "Raspberry" -d'  does anyone know the -- -f flags?  Can't find it in the man page
[06:16] <dr_willis> logi: discussion about it in  #ubuntu+1  ;)
[06:16] <Sylphie> does the nvidia driver even have a confguration item for which output to use?
[06:16] <BONG_IT> i cant find my installation of software
[06:17] <PatrickDickey> logi: I won't try it for another couple of weeks or so. And I'll only try it, because I'm on the Ubuntu Manual project, and we are going to release a version for it.
[06:17] <BONG_IT> where i can find my softwares installation
[06:17] <PatrickDickey> which software did you install, and how?
[06:18] <zebaszp> I used the little adapter (which now displays everything in an eye-straining purple tone), but the nvidia config tool shows only one port: the current monitor
[06:18] <BillyBeagle> what do you think the * means in this?   mysql> GRANT ALL ON abe.* TO bpn@localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'abc';
[06:18] <PatrickDickey> zebaszp: what happens if you shut down, plug it into the other port, and start up again?
[06:18] <zebaszp> so I'm pretty sure my installation is fine, (except for X.Org config, maybe)
[06:18] <Sylphie> zebaszp \ I wouldn't call your problem "hell", more like a visit from Phil the prince of insufficient light
[06:18] <BillyBeagle> should be replaced with X
[06:19] <orbitwhite> BillyBeagle, columns maybe?
[06:19] <zebaszp> my problem isn't hell, Windows 8 is (to a certain degree, at least)
[06:19] <orbitwhite> or tables :/
[06:19] <BillyBeagle> naw, table structor is build by the program later
[06:19] <PatrickDickey> BillyBeagle: It means that bpn will have all priviledges to every table inside of the abe database, IIRC.
[06:19] <BillyBeagle> just leave it as it?
[06:20] <zebaszp> still, I have the feeling I need to add stuff manually into xorg.conf
[06:20] <PatrickDickey> BillyBeagle: did you set it up like that, or someone else?
[06:20] <BillyBeagle> im reading a walk though
[06:20] <PatrickDickey> BillyBeagle: I'd follow the walk through then. If it says that, then type that.
[06:20] <zebaszp> with which I'm not acquainted at all
[06:21] <PatrickDickey> I'm pretty sure you'll see the reasoning later on.
[06:21] <orbitwhite> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/grant.html
[06:21] <zebaszp> sorry, missed your question, PatrickDickey: ubuntu works fine with the DVI port (albeit the adapter is slightly faulty)
[06:22] <Sylphie> zebaszp \ if th nvidia util sees only one output, then X isn't going to see more than one, so it's unlikely your problem is a misconfiguration
[06:22] <zebaszp> well, I'm at a total loss, then
[06:23] <BillyBeagle> ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that                            corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'mysql
[06:23] <zebaszp> luckly I don't have a ton of info in there, but I'd rather not reinstall if possible
[06:23] <PatrickDickey> zebaszp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia might give you a start.
[06:23] <BillyBeagle> I feel the guy im implying I replace the * with something
[06:23] <k4m3h4t3> i have problem http://pastebin.com/hEiXcRg4 . what solution
[06:24] <PatrickDickey> BillyBeagle: don't type the mysql> portion.
[06:24] <BillyBeagle> oh ha, ok that was it im crazy
[06:24] <BillyBeagle> thx
[06:24] <PatrickDickey> BillyBeagle: That's just to show you what the prompt should look like.
[06:24] <zebaszp> hmm, maybe I should have mentioned? I am using the latest xorg-edgers nvidia driver (not the rest of the packages, though, just that driver)
[06:24] <PatrickDickey> BillyBeagle: no problem. Been there, done that..... Too many times.
[06:24] <Sylphie> zebaszp \ so you've removed the dvi>vga adapter and the vga port still only works from windows?
[06:25] <k4m3h4t3> what should i do about my problem
[06:25] <orbitwhite> k4m3h4t3, google it first
[06:25] <giNeeRing> Anyone know why I am getting such terrible decompression speeds. 17kb/s
[06:25] <zebaszp> yes, Sylphie
[06:25] <k4m3h4t3> sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 16126D3A3E5C1192 <<i type this. but noting change
[06:26] <PatrickDickey> k4m3h4t3: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1869890
[06:26] <zebaszp> I'll give the wiki a read and come back in a while either with a massive "thank you" or a "please, more help?"
[06:26] <zebaszp> thanks for the support you've already given me
[06:26] <zebaszp> later!
[06:27] <orbitwhite> honestly, this is not the kind of problem that needs much to solve, google should fix it, coming for solutions in such cases is simply unpolite as for me :/
[06:27] <nytrix> does compiz work with ubuntu 12.04 classic desktop?
[06:27] <PatrickDickey> orbitwhite: But, like someone mentioned earlier, if you don't know how to phrase the question, you won't get the answer.
[06:29] <PatrickDickey> nytrix: this might help you figure it out http://linux-experiments.blogspot.com/2012/07/getting-gnome-classic-and-compiz-on.html
[06:29] <mfilipe> Ubuntu 12.04LTS automagically align partitions on SSD?
[06:29] <nytrix> thanks
[06:29] <Sylphie> magic never works
[06:30] <orbitwhite> in my case i did it by hand and i havn't mentioned anything strange or magic
[06:30] <PatrickDickey> nytrix: Just as a word of caution, you're using third party repositories. And you can really mess things up, if you're not careful.
[06:30] <orbitwhite> i guess it is always like that when u do it by hand though :/
[06:32] <Brombomb> orbitwhite & PatrickDickey .... nearly there with this guy....
[06:32] <Brombomb> http://blog.scphillips.com/2013/01/using-a-raspberry-pi-with-android-phones-for-media-streaming/
[06:32] <nytrix> im a regular user on my machine, how do i wsitch to admin in terminal to install something? is it su username?
[06:32] <Brombomb> using the gmediarenderer
[06:32] <PatrickDickey> now for the slightly more serious answer mfilipe. It creates the partitions that you need/request. As for aligning them, I'm not sure what you mean. It creates and sets the proper flags, and creates a bootloader to boot them.
[06:33] <PatrickDickey> nytrix: You'll use sudo and your login password. su - is not recommended with ubuntu.
[06:33] <orbitwhite> i always use su and `sudo su` but im retarded
[06:33] <nytrix> i use sudo but doesnt ask for admin password
[06:34] <PatrickDickey> it should ask for your password.
[06:34] <nytrix> just asks for regular usr passwd
[06:34] <mfilipe> I'm going to install Ubuntu on my new laptop which uses SSD. I read that ssd align is very important for better performance. So, I wanna now if the Ubuntu installer calculates the ssd align automagically.
[06:34] <PatrickDickey> nytrix: that's because you're the admin.
[06:34] <nytrix> nytrix is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[06:34] <orbitwhite> mfilipe, not that really matters actually
[06:34] <PatrickDickey> nytrix: Are you the only user on the computer?
[06:35] <nytrix> no
[06:35] <mfilipe> orbitwhite, really? why?
[06:35] <PatrickDickey> nytrix: Do you know the login information for the other user?
[06:35] <orbitwhite> mfilipe, because i didn't mentioned anything wrong
[06:35] <nytrix> and i dont want to keep logging in and out everytime
[06:35] <nytrix> yes
[06:35] <Sylphie> nytrix \ interpol is unlikely to come visit you
[06:36] <PatrickDickey> nytrix then you can use su - username. it's just not recommended. The question that I have is, why don't you set yourself as an admin?
[06:36] <nytrix> so i have to log in and back in as admin to perform admin commands in terminal?
[06:36] <orbitwhite> mfilipe, correct options for operating with ssd storage media really do matter, but there r tons of howtos on google about it
[06:37] <nytrix> i dont know
[06:37] <nytrix> lol
[06:37] <Finklepants> anyone able to help me getting wifi resolved it keeps hanging up and d/c  -  i have Atheros AR9485 / Ath9k
[06:37] <PatrickDickey> lol If I had to guess, I'd say you're used to the Windows way.  Limited users and computer administators.
[06:37] <Sylphie> nytrix \ the other solution would be to give your user account more privs
[06:38] <devvrat_> my is working slow ...what to do??
[06:38] <nytrix> i know
[06:38] <aeon-ltd> devvrat_: describe more
[06:38] <nytrix> thanks guys
[06:38] <nytrix> :)
[06:39] <PatrickDickey> Finklepants: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11345041 might be a starting point.
[06:39] <orbitwhite> mfilipe, http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/SSD_Tuning_for_Linux#SSD_trim.2C_Partition_Alignment.2C_and_Erase_Block_Size looks like this paper covers all questions including partitioning
[06:39] <devvrat_> ubuntu is very slow than windows in my pc any reasion
[06:39] <Sylphie> no distro of linux should be slower than windows
[06:39] <devvrat_> belive me
[06:40] <xx4h> devvrat_, what is slow.
[06:40] <PatrickDickey> devvrat_: what graphics card do you have installed?
[06:40] <devvrat_> opening the application moving scoller etc
[06:40]  * PatrickDickey had that issue with an older ATI card, and the open source drivers.
[06:40] <devvrat_> ati card
[06:40] <xx4h> devvrat_, maybe you have to install gpu-driver?
[06:40] <PatrickDickey> Which ati card, devvrat_
[06:41] <devvrat_> dont know
[06:42] <devvrat_> i have tryed many driver but dosent work
[06:42] <Brombomb> bad idea adding the pulse user to the root group?
[06:42] <PatrickDickey> devvrat_: Open a terminal window (CTRL+Alt+T) and type lspci | grep VGA in. Tell us what it says
[06:43] <PatrickDickey> devvrat_: you can copy and paste that, to make it easier.
[06:43] <orbitwhite> Brombomb, adding users to root group is always not a perfect solution talking of security
[06:43] <Finklepants> i tryed all of that nosence already, i know this was i know bug or something but cant find if its fixed. it worked great in 11 but went to 12 and wifi keeps hanging up
[06:44] <devvrat_> ATI RC410 (radeon xpress 200M)
[06:45] <orbitwhite> Finklepants, not a very good idea but often latest compat-wireless helps to solve something related to stable work
[06:46] <Finklepants> does that have chance of breaking wifi completely?
[06:47] <orbitwhite> define breaking
[06:47] <Sylphie> Finklepants \ I have seen linux wreck hardware before. Life is full of risks
[06:48] <Finklepants> k given it a shot
[06:48] <orbitwhite> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k
[06:50] <PatrickDickey> devvrat_: That's an old card. Ubuntu may not support it anymore, as ATI doesn't necessarily support it now.
[06:51] <PatrickDickey> devvrat_: If Ubuntu does support it, it'll be with Unity 2D at the most, and they're phasing that out. You *might* be able to use something like lubuntu or xubuntu though.
[06:51] <orbitwhite> or get mate
[06:52] <PatrickDickey> devvrat_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/215181/no-unity-after-ubuntu-12-10-upgrade might help out though. I used it with my card, for a bit. But I have a newer "old" card.
[06:53] <devvrat_> okk thanks for help
[06:53] <PatrickDickey> No problem. Sorry that I can't be more helpful.
[06:53] <devvrat_> no pro.
[06:56] <cellofellow> My dash and hud, alt tab, most of unity really, has been really quite dragging lately. Is there a way to clean it up, remove crufty stuff in there somewhere so it will speed back up?
[06:57] <PatrickDickey> cellofellow: it sounds like you're having the graphics card issues too. Which card do you have?
[06:57] <cellofellow> PatrickDickey: HD 4000
[06:58] <cellofellow> Intel
[06:58] <miroesq> I was told that I should never log in as root , but rather log in as a normal user and use sudo. Does that mean I should not enable the root account to begin with as well?
[06:58] <PatrickDickey> Intel or ATI Radeon?
[06:58] <PatrickDickey> miroesq: you shouldn't need to enable the root account at all. In fact, it isn't enabled in a default installation.
[06:59] <cellofellow> miroesq: yes, don't enable root, you can do everything root can do without running user programs by using sudo.
[06:59] <cellofellow> s/user programs/user programs as root/
[06:59] <cellofellow> PatrickDickey: Intel HD 4000
[07:00] <miroesq> i was really using root so i can log in with ssh and move files around, change permissions. it was just easier for me to use than linux
[07:00] <cellofellow> miroesq: sudo -s
[07:00] <PatrickDickey> cellofellow: Not sure then. You could check the forums to see if anyone has issues with that card.
[07:00] <miroesq> cellofellow: my ssh is a GUI. I use winscp
[07:01] <PatrickDickey> miroesq: what cellofellow said. Or just sudo works too. You log in with the user account, and just sudo comand.
[07:01] <hagzag_> Hi, I have question regarding apt-get urls behind explicit proxy is this the right place ?
[07:02] <PatrickDickey> hagzag_: what's the question. We might be able to answer it.
[07:02] <cellofellow> miroesq: if you are scping only then root account, while still unadviseable, is less of a problem than if you intend to log in a full desktop session.
[07:02] <zebaszp> hello there!
[07:02] <PatrickDickey> wb zebaszp. Did everything work out?
[07:03] <miroesq> cellofellow: how do i disable the root account then or should i just leave it as is and not log in with it?
[07:03] <zebaszp> I ended up uninstalling the nvidia driver from a tty
[07:03] <zebaszp> sure enough, the desktop's back
[07:03] <zebaszp> and my goodness, galluim drivers work a lot better than I recalled
[07:03] <PatrickDickey> miroesq: how did you enable the root account?
[07:04] <cellofellow> miroesq: probably best way to disable root account is sudo passwd root --delete
[07:04] <_dmn> How to change a file which needs root permission using the GUI?
[07:04] <hagzag_> I see your discussing Nvidia I have thinkPad W520, and I havent yet found a way to configure it [tried a ton of howtos]
[07:04] <hagzag_> _dmn = use "gksudo nautilus"
[07:04] <miroesq> cellofellow: I created a password then i enabled the account
[07:04] <miroesq> sudo passwd root
[07:04] <miroesq> sudo passwd –u root
[07:05] <cellofellow> miroesq: yeah, just use the --delete option on passwd
[07:05] <PatrickDickey> miroesq: sudo passwd -dl root will disable the root account.
[07:05] <PatrickDickey> miroesq: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:05] <miroesq> thank you very much guys
[07:05] <zebaszp> I've backed up and deleted xorg.conf, and purged the nvidia packages, I'll reboot and try to install them back
[07:05] <zebaszp> brb
[07:06] <cellofellow> I've been using gnome-shell on my computer at work, which is I'll admit a much faster machine than this (this is an i5 with 4GB ram, the other is a Phenom 8 core with 32GB ram) but it really shouldn't be this much slower with Unity.
[07:06] <hagzag_> apt-get urls behind explicit proxy anyone ?
[07:07] <_dmn> hagzag_: Thanks a lot, it worked.:)
[07:07] <hagzag_> _dmn: np, enjoy
[07:09] <PatrickDickey> hagzag_: you're behind a proxy, and want to get to apt-get right?
[07:10] <hagzag_> yes, but I nned to provide a list of url's to our GSO Dept so they will add the urls
[07:10] <hagzag_> the apt-get configuration part of the proxy should be simple :)
[07:11] <hagzag_> the big Q with all the mirrors which url's should I be enabeling
[07:11] <PatrickDickey> hagzag_: will they take domains, or do you need the exact urls?
[07:11] <hagzag_> I can try domains and see if it flys :)
[07:11] <PatrickDickey> If they'll take entire domains, then it's ubuntu.com. Otherwise it's archives.ubuntu.com security.ubuntu.com and a few more. I'd have to do an update to figure it out.
[07:12] <hagzag_> so what you mean is add *.ubuntu.com should suffice ?
[07:12] <PatrickDickey> Yep. That should work.
[07:12] <hagzag_> thanks wil try that then
[07:14] <miroesq> PatrickDickey: what about when executing a script, I should be logged in as root then, correct?
[07:14] <mvt007geek> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[07:14] <PatrickDickey> miroesq: nope. you'll use sudo if it requires root access.
[07:14] <zebaszp> while I wait for the nvidia package to download, I had a little question that's been bugging me for some while
[07:15] <PatrickDickey> hagzag_: here's my list of archives. YMMV though. what you could do, is try apt-get update, and copy the list of sites.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1533629/
[07:15] <miroesq> PatrickDickey: yes, but the password is only good for 15 minutes, i ran an install script that lasted for about an hour
[07:16] <PatrickDickey> miroesq: It'll prompt you whenver a command requires the password. Or it should. If not, then you can change the commands inside of the script to include sudo.
[07:16] <zebaszp> Deja Dup gives me a "/usr/bin/duplicity" error ever since the 2nd backup (I configured it with Ubuntu One)
[07:16] <PatrickDickey> and miroesq what script are you running, if you don't mind my asking.
[07:16] <miroesq> freeswitch and fusionpbx
[07:17] <miroesq> PatrickDickey: is there a way to increase the amount of time from 15 to 2 hours or so?
[07:17] <PatrickDickey> miroesq: not that I'm aware of. I've never tried though.
[07:18] <miroesq> PatrickDickey: i will not be able to change anything in the script as i am so not technical enough, so i think i will enable the root and disable it once i am done with any script installs
[07:18] <PatrickDickey> miroesq: does the script ask you for sudo password at all?
[07:19] <miroesq> don't know. i had installed it using root :)
[07:20] <zebaszp> YES! YES!
[07:20] <zebaszp> finally! my desktop, back to it's full glory!
[07:20] <PatrickDickey> miroesq: It should either prompt you, or tell you that you need to run sudo. And I think it will keep that script running as root while it's going.
[07:20] <PatrickDickey> zebaszp: Glad to hear it. :D
[07:20] <zebaszp> admitedly, I'm using one of the repo drivers instead of the xorg-edgers one, but still
[07:21] <zebaszp> thanks a lot for your support, you are all amazing people
[07:21] <PatrickDickey> Glad to help. :)
[07:21] <zebaszp> I wish I could contribute to the community in more meaningful ways, but I'll just keep promoting Ubuntu for the time being
[07:22] <PatrickDickey> zebaszp: I'm sure you can contribute. Everything you've learned here, will help someone else.
[07:23]  * PatrickDickey breaks his computer on a regular basis....  And learns from it.
[07:23] <zebaszp> I'll drop by the IRC more often, I'd never actually used it before, it's great
[07:23] <zebaszp> Trial and error. Mostly error.
[07:24] <PatrickDickey> Yep it is. I got hooked on it (irc) back in the days of MSN chats. I used to run a room there.
[07:24] <miroesq> PatrickDickey: i just looked at the script and i did execute everything having to do with it using sudo. so what does that mean?
[07:24] <zebaszp> I'll just listen to the Jonoboard for a while, just to celebrate how awesome communities are (ours and in general)
[07:25] <PatrickDickey> It means that you probably didn't need to be root, miroesq.
[07:25] <miroesq> PatrickDickey: mind you, i am not talking about what is inside the script as i don't know that. i am just talking about chmoding, moving and running it
[07:25] <Shazer[2]> Hey guys
[07:25] <Shazer[2]> I'm just wondering how I go about making sure everything I install on Ubuntu goes to another HDD
[07:25] <Shazer[2]> Not my SSD
[07:25] <Shazer[2]> Like it did last time
[07:26] <PatrickDickey> Shazer[2]: when you get into the Installation, it should prompt you for where you want to install everything. If not, I'd use an alternate installation disc. Choose the "Something else" or "manually partition" option.
[07:27] <Shazer[2]> PatrickDickey: I'm already installed now :/
[07:27] <Shazer[2]> Is there a way to do it now?
[07:28] <PatrickDickey> What all do you want to move? everything, and not use the SSD at all, or just things like your /home directory?
[07:29] <zebaszp> I seem to be missing one resolution, any idea how to add it back? I'm looking at the wiki, but so far nothing
[07:30] <PatrickDickey> zebaszp: I'm not sure. If it's not in the wiki, then I don't really know. They may not know that it works.
[07:31] <PatrickDickey> Shazer[2]: http://askubuntu.com/questions/106527/how-to-move-ubuntu-installation-from-one-hdd-to-another or maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1598869
[07:31] <Brombomb> woohoo!  sweet sweet music
[07:31] <PatrickDickey> Glad to hear it Brombomb.
[07:31] <mladoux> @zebaszp you could try this --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Use_cvt.2BAC8-xrandr_tool_to_add_the_highest_mode_the_LCD_can_do
[07:32] <Brombomb> I used that gstreamrenderer and the trick was unmuting my sound cards heaphone channel
[07:32] <PatrickDickey> Cool :D it's usually the simple things.
[07:32] <zebaszp> I was looking at that :P
[07:32] <Brombomb> so it serves the library content to my phone, which then acts remote to send commands back to the same server instructing it what to play.
[07:33] <logi> patrick
[07:33] <mladoux> zebaszp, yeah, that works in most cases, but I've personally run into one or two where it does not.
[07:33] <PatrickDickey> logi, how's it going?
[07:34] <Brombomb> now to download the Ubuntuphone source and load that up...
[07:34] <mladoux> that's when you need to dig and hope that monitor specs are published with all the right bits and pieces. They almost never are.
[07:34] <x-os_pal> hey all! just installed bodhi to use strickly for studies..i'm comming from arch and i just need someone to explain how the whole root account works here on ubuntu. i heard something about auto-generated root passwords for securty and i just want to do some work as straight root. any links are appreciated.
[07:34] <cobra-the-joker> Hey there every one ... how can i install cpanel on ubuntu 12.10 ?
[07:34] <PatrickDickey> x-os_pal: you don't normally use root, you use sudo
[07:34] <PatrickDickey> !sudo | x-os_pal
[07:34] <mladoux> x-os_pal, sudo -i will give you a root shell
[07:35] <logi> i got 16x lowest writing speed
[07:35] <logi> is that ok?
[07:35] <PatrickDickey> logi: if that's the lowest speed your drive shows (smallest number) then yes.
[07:35] <Shazer[2]> PatrickDickey: sorry
[07:35] <Shazer[2]> My computer died
[07:35] <Shazer[2]> What did you say was an alternative?
[07:36] <Theodore> hello
[07:36] <x-os_pal> thanks for the quick replies ubottu and mladoux...i understand that but i want full access to root as root. it's definately possible because i doubt system admins use sudo for everything...
[07:36] <PatrickDickey> Shazer[2]: no worries, Mine dies every day. :) I'll scroll up and get the reply for you.
[07:36] <Theodore> is ubuntu for android a cell os or a operating system for cells?
[07:36] <Shazer[2]> Thanks PatrickDickey :)
[07:36] <PatrickDickey> Shazer[2]: http://askubuntu.com/questions/106527/how-to-move-ubuntu-installation-from-one-hdd-to-another or maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1598869
[07:36] <cobra-the-joker> Cpanel on ubuntu ...any one ?
[07:37] <mvt007geek> can someone tell me what sh -c 'zcat ./ubuntu-11.10-preinstalled-desktop-armel+omap4.img.gz | dd bs=4M of=/dev/sdb
[07:37] <mvt007geek>   do exactly?
[07:37] <somsip> !phone | Theodore
[07:37] <PatrickDickey> x-os_pal: The first link that ubottu gave you talks about enabling the root account.
[07:37] <Shazer[2]> Hmm
[07:37] <DWSR> I assume that http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/200712-180/ would imply that the 2950 works with any LATER versions of Ubuntu?
[07:37] <Shazer[2]> I want to install Ubuntu on SSD but everything that gets installed like Chrome or anything I install on Ubuntu goes on HDD
[07:37] <mladoux> sudo -i will give you a full root shell. Root is locked off in ubuntu by default, so sudo is the only way to access it. It's the same as using su
[07:38] <logi> what is the another application you can use for burning ISO's?
[07:38] <mvt007geek> can someone tell me what sh -c 'zcat ./ubuntu-11.10-preinstalled-desktop-armel+omap4.img.gz | dd bs=4M of=/dev/sdb do exactly? i want to install it on sd card to use on pandaboard
[07:38] <PatrickDickey> Shazer[2]: if you just did the installation, I'd say reinstall.  Put / on the SSD, and /var/usr/home on the other drive. You'll have to create partitions for each though.
[07:38] <mladoux> the -i stands for interactive.
[07:38] <x-os_pal> thanks all!
[07:39] <PatrickDickey> mvt007geek: you can google zcat, and find out from there.
[07:39] <zebaszp> the voice of Jono saying "community" is surprisingly addictive
[07:39] <mladoux> well, i guess you could do it with an ssl key login, but yeah
[07:39] <logi> application that can burn ISO?? SOMEBODY??
[07:39] <PatrickDickey> cobra-the-joker: did you download cpanel or are you at the starting point (just wanting to do it)?
[07:40] <zebaszp> logi: Brasero comes preinstalled, I think
[07:40] <somsip> logi: brasero, xfburn
[07:40] <mladoux> logi -- brasero is the standard for that, but xfburn is a good alternative
[07:40] <mvt007geek> PatrickDickey: i wabt to know the difference between that and this command: gunzip -c ubunut_omap4_image_file.img.gz | sudo dd bs=4M of=/dev/sdb
[07:40] <PatrickDickey> cobra-the-joker: http://forums.cpanel.net/f34/installing-cpanel-ubuntu-server-67159.html
[07:40] <logi> ok :D
[07:40] <mvt007geek> PatrickDickey: want to know which one is better to use?
[07:40] <cobra-the-joker> PatrickDickey: i downloaded from the usual wget method ... but then it say that it is not supported
[07:41] <cobra-the-joker> so no cpanel for ubuntu ?
[07:41] <PatrickDickey> cobra-the-joker: look at the link I just gave you http://forums.cpanel.net/f34/installing-cpanel-ubuntu-server-67159.html it might help.
[07:41] <cobra-the-joker> it says that you cant install it there :D
[07:43] <Thor> cobra-the-joker: http://forums.cpanel.net/f145/debian-support-ubuntu-server-lts-support-153517.html is also useful here
[07:43] <PatrickDickey> mvt007geek: I'm not sure which is better. I'd say you could ask in a #perl room though. Assuming it's a perl file that you're working with.
[07:43] <mvt007geek> perl?
[07:43] <PatrickDickey> It's a scripting language.
[07:43] <Thor> cobra-the-joker: Cpanel used to support debian, but not anymore.
[07:45] <zebaszp> well, it's 5 AM here, so I'm off to bed
[07:46] <zebaszp> thanks everyone for your support
[07:46] <zebaszp> I'm no longer trapped in Windows 8 :D
[07:46] <zebaszp> (most of my games are, though, but at least I won't need to install apache on it to test my .php files...)
[07:47] <PatrickDickey> Have a good night zebaszp. You must be around France, right?
[07:47] <zebaszp> not even close :P Argentina
[07:47] <mvt007geek> here is 11 am :)
[07:48] <Thor> PatrickDickey: france would be 8:47 am ;P
[07:48] <PatrickDickey> Wow. I didn't realize that you were that far East. I'm in the middle of the US.
[07:48] <mvt007geek> how is us? :)
[07:48]  * PatrickDickey needs to change his wallpaper to the CIRAF map. :P
[07:48] <PatrickDickey> Cold. LOL
[07:48] <zebaszp> "that far east"? it's UTC -3
[07:49] <PatrickDickey> Right, I'm UTC -6 or 5 depending on the time of year.
[07:49] <Thor> zebaszp: I thought argentina was more east than that O.o
[07:49] <PatrickDickey> I'm normally working right now, which doesn't require me to think. :P
[07:49] <zebaszp> southwest of brazil
[07:50] <zebaszp> I think our timezone is actually wrong, but whatever
[07:50] <Thor> PatrickDickey: http://www.itu.int/ITU-R/terrestrial/broadcast/images/broad-ciraf2.gif :P
[07:50]  * PatrickDickey has something like that downloaded already for my Shortwave Radio log.
[07:50] <PatrickDickey> Yep. Now I see. LOL
[07:51] <zebaszp> I have no idea what I'm looking at, besides "a map" :P
[07:51] <Thor> lol
[07:52] <zebaszp> what is CIRAF?
[07:52] <PatrickDickey> It's for Shortwave Radio Signals. You find your number (or numbers around your area), and look in shortwave radio schedules to find out when they're transmitting to you.
[07:52] <Thor> http://www.jgiesen.de/astro/astroJS/timezone/index.htm is more useful
[07:52] <jaker3333> HAIL !
[07:52] <zebaszp> oh
[07:52] <Thor> zebaszp: you *should* be in timezone q, but you are in p :P
[07:52] <jaker3333> how to limit the size of syslog file ?
[07:53] <x-os_pal> does apt-get support throttling using multiple mirrors?
[07:53] <zebaszp> well, you can't blame me for not knowing, it's not even in wikipedia :P
[07:53] <somsip> x-os_pal: use apt-fast
[07:53] <alimj> Question: When you type a command in Terminal (which is not installed), some software generates this message: "The program xxx can be found in the following package"...  The only reason I know, is because I have an ancient (like made in 1942) shortwave radio. Along with a couple of new ones.
[07:53] <Thor> :)
[07:54] <Thor> zebaszp: timezones never make sense other than that night look dark :P
[07:54] <PatrickDickey> alimj: It might be apt-cache, but I'm not sure. Or dpkg. I know you can search in apt-cache for programs.
[07:55] <zebaszp> I know, but I couldn't care less about a 1-hour difference :P
[07:55] <alimj> PatrickDickey: I use apt-cache for searching available packages; however, I do not believe that it chould be apt-cache
[07:55] <alimj> PatrickDickey: I would like to install this software on another platform
[07:55] <zebaszp> alright! I better go to bed now, otherwise I'll sleep till 5 PM
[07:56] <zebaszp> see you all! nice chatting with you!
[07:57] <somsip> alimj: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommandNotFoundMagic
[07:57] <mvt007geek> who has installed ubuntu on pandaboard?
[07:57] <mvt007geek> ?
[07:57] <alimj> somsip: Thanks for that
[07:57] <somsip> alimj: np
[08:00] <sphynx> is anyone using emitapp to stream media to his/her mobile device  ?
[08:02] <radopi> does YoltA also spamm you
[08:03] <MonkeyDust> !anyone | sphynx
[08:10] <skp1> how can i tell which version of alsa i have installed?
[08:13] <trapni> good morning
[08:13] <delfries> hi is there anything that would be problmatic if i tried to clean install ubuntu 12.04 over 12.10? i want to go down to the stable version
[08:14] <Theodore> i use 13.04 on my main desktop
[08:14] <MonkeyDust> skp1  apt-cache policy alsa
[08:14] <Theodore> i use 12.04 on my ppc G5Server
[08:15] <delfries> would it be an issue though?
[08:15] <MonkeyDust> Theodore  #ubuntu+1 for 13.04
[08:15] <Theodore> yeah its the beta night build
[08:15] <Theodore> the raring version
[08:16] <delfries> well thats fine. i'm asking if there would be issues in putting 12.04 on a disk and installing over 12.10
[08:16] <Theodore> no i would do a full format
[08:16] <Theodore> or install to its own partition or a 2nd partition on the same drive
[08:16] <Theodore> :)
[08:17] <amagee> hey, i'm trying to get dual monitors working on ubuntu 12.04, and now i'm using an intel graphics card
[08:17] <delfries> how do i do a ful format?
[08:17] <amagee> the "displays" widget only finds one screen
[08:17] <amagee> as does xrandr
[08:18] <Theodore> when you load the disc
[08:18] <MonkeyDust> delfries  use gparted on a live cd, delete the partition
[08:18] <Theodore> say format over entire capacity of drive
[08:18] <Theodore> don't use partitioning
[08:18] <delfries> ok that will work i think
[08:26] <jaker3333> no help ?
[08:28] <jaker3333> HEEEY
[08:29] <Tex_Nick> !ask | jaker3333
[08:29] <jaker3333> how to limit the size of the syslog ?
[08:29] <jaker3333> i want it to resert after half a mega
[08:29] <jaker3333> reset
[08:30] <daftykins> jaker3333: look up 'logrotate'
[08:30] <MonkeyDust> jaker3333  guess you need a script for that, better ask in #bash
[08:34] <jebb> has any one be able to boot a ubunt live cd via tftp/pxe
[08:34] <jebb> been*
[08:34] <Eagleman> Is there a way to recieve pop3 email in an imap inbox, my isp does not support imap mailboxes, so i have to convert it myself somehow?
[08:36] <fred-fri> i cant find the additional drivers utility
[08:36] <fred-fri> can someone tell me the name of that app so i can start it from terminal?
[08:36] <dr_willis> in 12.10 its in a tab under the software-sources tool
[08:36] <fred-fri> im on mint, and its hidden in the mint menus
[08:37] <MonkeyDust> !mint
[08:37] <dr_willis> in 12.04 its 'jockey-gtk'
[08:37] <dr_willis> We dont know what mint does.
[08:37] <daftykins> fred-fri: this might be of relevance: http://www.muktware.com/3952/new-interface-installing-drivers-ubuntu-1210#.UPUVYWfxc-U
[08:38] <fred-fri> thanks yall
[08:38] <daftykins> Eagleman: if they don't support it, there's no way around it.
[08:39] <daftykins> Eagleman: however if you had a gmail account, you could have that check the POP account and automatically store those emails with a given label so you don't have to worry about using a desktop client
[08:39] <Eagleman> daftykins, there is no way setting up a mail system to recieve pop3 and then retrieve the stored pop3 messages with imap
[08:40] <daftykins> Eagleman: IMAP is a protocol that needs to be supported on the mail server.
[08:40] <daftykins> Eagleman: you could create your own mail server, but that'd just complicate matters.
[08:44] <doomlord> anyone know of a hex/data viewer which has an option to display shorts,ints,floats aswell as hex (for the whole display, not just isolated values)
[08:45] <Eagleman> daftykins, i already have my own postfix/dovecot server
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> doomlord: ghex maybe
[08:46] <doomlord> i'm using that now - it doesn't appear to do that (it *does* have a panel at the bottom showing the value under cursor as int,float etc... but i'm after the main view like that)
[08:46] <BillBeagle> #bitcoin
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> !find hex
[08:47] <MonkeyDust> !info dhex
[08:47] <doomlord> i'll try that. ncurses seems right for a hex editor :)
[08:48]  * MonkeyDust learns something new every day
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> ncurses is sweet
[08:50] <doomlord> ok ghex, dhex, bless dont do it
[08:51] <Eagleman> Is there a way to recieve pop3 email in an imap inbox, my isp does not support imap mailboxes, so i have to convert it myself somehow, i have my own postfix/dovecot setup. Is there a way to set this up?
[08:51] <VP1> using UIbuntu 11.10. How to share internet connection from my  Samsung star duos mobile? tryied n/w manager
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> #if getdeb is up you can get wxhexeditor
[08:52] <MonkeyDust> VP1  for a start, 11.10 is no longer supported
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> VP1: Oneiric is EOL soon (April 2013) you may want to upgrade soon
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: it is
[08:52] <jaker3333> how to limit syslog file ?
[08:53] <doomlord> i guess i can spend a few minutes writing a program to convert a binary file to tabbed text showing all that, lol
[08:53] <jaker3333> logrotate is a backup system.. i don't want it
[08:53] <jaker3333> half an hour of my time gone
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases  April 2013
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: or use maths :)
[08:53] <ciphered>  cwhats a good opensource streaming server ?
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> ciphered: steaming to what?
[08:53] <ciphered> vidz
[08:54] <bazhang> archive.org possibly
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> doomlord: unixlab.blogspot.com/2009/08/five-gui-hex-editors-for-ubuntu.htmlCached - Similar
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> gah
[08:54] <jaker3333> actionParsip is it safe to delete var/log/* ?
[08:54] <VP1> @ ActionParsnip, MonkeyDust: OK, but may I know the general procedure for the connection for the time being until ? update
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> doomlord: http://unixlab.blogspot.co.uk/2009/08/five-gui-hex-editors-for-ubuntu.html
[08:55] <MonkeyDust> VP1  you mean internet sharing?
[08:55] <VP1> yes
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> VP1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothDialup
[08:55] <MonkeyDust> !ics | VP1 there's this
[08:56] <daftykins> jaker3333: no it's not a backup system
[08:56] <MonkeyDust> ah bluetooth
[08:56] <VP1> I want to share my mobile's connection with Ubuntu
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> VP1: yuou'll need that guide
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> ciphered: you could use a minidlna server
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> ciphered: please use my nick so that the text highlights
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> ciphered: you can do this fgast by typing act then hitting TAB
[08:57] <jaker3333> daftykins i'm using a script to delete everything i var/log every few hours
[08:57] <jaker3333> is that bad?
[08:57] <ciphered> ActionParsnip: minidlna server like what
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> ciphered: its a service
[08:58] <daftykins> jaker3333: not if you don't ever want to read the logs the moment after they're deleted ;D
[08:58] <ciphered> ActionParsnip: i need to get a source as a raw stream and spit a url that streams on the web
[08:58] <jaker3333> daftykins and what will those logs do for me?
[08:59] <Eagleman> Is there a way to recieve pop3 email in an imap inbox, my isp does not support imap mailboxes, so i have to convert it myself somehow, i have my own postfix/dovecot setup. Is there a way to set this up, I know gmail is able to do this, you can add email accounts to gmail and then recieve your pop3 messages in a imap mailbox
[08:59] <daftykins> jaker3333: help you when problems occur some day
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> ciphered: if you have a minidlna client (most media players can do it) then you can browse, then stream your files
[08:59] <ciphered> ActionParsnip: the web browsers dont have any minidlna client
[09:00] <jaker3333> when that day come i know which command line to use my friend
[09:00] <jaker3333> and the word " format " will be part of it
[09:01] <vez> im having erros when kernel is compiling.  It shows this errors http://pastebin.com/g7TbyRJU and then compilation stops.  I've tried changing gcc version and still fails. anyone can help me please?
[09:01] <jaker3333> i'm still using 11.04 by the way
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> ciphered: you could use html5 to stream them via web interface, it's not pretty but it works
[09:02] <circle> May as well ask here. I'm planning a format/reinstall; I have two HDDs, and I want to dual boot Linux and Windows. What do you guys think would be the best partition setup?
[09:02] <circle> I was thinking HDD 1  is just pure windows (320GB). Second HDD I use for Linux, with a parition for /home, /boot, a swap, and a storage.
[09:03] <MonkeyDust> circle  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes
[09:03] <zigovr> hi all, I have an encrypted partition (/dev/sda7), I added it to my cryptab file
[09:03] <circle> MonkeyDust: I'll check it out
[09:03] <zigovr> however at boot it is not automatically opened, I need to type "M" and then open it (cryptsetup luksOpen) manually
[09:04] <zigovr> I did run update-initramfs several times already
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> circle: hdd1:  Windows sytem and 20Gb for Ubuntu system and 30Gb for /home. Hdd2: partition for windows page file and windows %temp%, partition for swap space, rest for user docs
[09:05] <circle> ActionParsnip: interesting
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> circle: swap and windows pagefile / temp on a different drive gives a speed boost, keeping user docs in its own partition eases backups
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> circle: having a small partition for /home and then symlinking the folders to the other partition will make the access transparent too
[09:07] <zigovr> ok problem solved, my file was called cryptab instead of crypttab -_-
[09:07] <circle> ActionParsnip: that seems quite complex, but I will consider ity
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> circle: its how i'd do it.
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> circle: if the data partition is NTFS then both OSes can use the same data asd the Windows OS is unable to access Ext4
[09:08] <Hanumaan> can anyone suggest the problem with this update : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1533757/
[09:11] <louigi> fellas! is there any software for ubuntu to produce 2d animation?
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> Hanumaan: do you use a proxy for web access?
[09:13] <helmut_> hi
[09:13] <daftykins> lo
[09:13] <Hanumaan> ActionParsnip, yes VPN I use
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> !info tupi
[09:14] <subdesign> how to know what version of php installs tasksel ?
[09:14] <louigi> ubottu, thx will try out
[09:14] <louigi> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> louigi: all I did was ask the duck :)
[09:14] <|nv|s|b|e> I have to logout and back in, my windoze machine will be jealous after this.
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Hanumaan: then you will need to tell apt-get to use the proxy too
[09:17] <Hanumaan> ActionParsnip, how to do that ?
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Hanumaan: look into apt.conf
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Hanumaan: you will need:  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/apt.conf    to get write access (it doesn't exist by default)
[09:18] <wlosio> Hello, i cant turn off my Ubuntu - i click Turn off, ubuntu logging off and i cannot turk off/restart my pc
[09:18] <eisen> :q
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> wlosio: if you run:  sudo shutdown -h now    does it turn off?
[09:20] <wlosio> yes
[09:20] <wlosio> but idk why dont work by clicking
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> wlosio: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue; groups
[09:21] <wlosio> Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[09:21] <wlosio> im using unity (Now)
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> wlosio: and the output of:  groups
[09:22] <wlosio> aa
[09:22] <wlosio> kk
[09:22] <wlosio> wlosio adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> wlosio: looks ok, i'm in the same groups. works here.
[09:23] <wlosio> on my laptop is ubuntu with XFCE and not problems
[09:23] <wlosio> its like problem with Unity...
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> wlosio: well, gnome :)
[09:23] <wlosio> :)
[09:24] <wlosio> i think xfce using other command to shutdown than gnome
[09:25] <wlosio> ehhh and im againg remove unity, lastly is removed unity because was not usable
[09:25] <wlosio> now is usable
[09:25] <wlosio> but problem with shutodnw
[09:25] <wlosio> and reboot
[09:25] <wlosio> nah...
[09:25] <FloodBot1> wlosio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:25] <wlosio> maybe 13.10 reipairs it
[09:26] <wlosio> lol?! x)
[09:26] <wlosio> okay thanks.. i go to googling ho to de... or wait.., meybe i try Gnome ...
[09:26] <nytrix> where is ~/.themes ? what is the ~ for?
[09:27] <wlosio> ~= home dit
[09:27] <wlosio> dir
[09:27] <nytrix> thnx
[09:27] <wlosio> ~/.themes = /home/<you_name>/.themes
[09:27] <wlosio> okay bye bye
[09:28] <nytrix> i set show hidden files and still cant locate .themes in my home dir
[09:28] <nytrix> i see .thumnais
[09:29] <nytrix> .thumbnails
[09:29] <nytrix> but no .themes
[09:29] <nytrix> is it because im not admin?
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> nytrix: i believe you need to make ~/.themes
[09:32] <nytrix> ok
[09:33] <cytokinestorm> i have a bit of a loaded problem
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> cytokinestorm: ask and the channel will reply if it can
[09:33] <cytokinestorm> i want to re-install windows on this computer and delete linux but i'm a mega noob
[09:34] <cytokinestorm> all of the guides I'm reading may as well be in Swahili
[09:34] <cytokinestorm> when i tried to install windows it said i needed a NTFS file system
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> cytokinestorm: the windows installer can delete the ubuntu partitions and use the space for its ntfs partition
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> cytokinestorm: how is this an ubuntu issue, you are installing windows
[09:35] <cytokinestorm> uhhhh
[09:35] <cytokinestorm> well, i need to get rid of linux
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> cytokinestorm: the windows installer can do that, i suggest you ask in ##windows
[09:35] <cytokinestorm> anand the windows installer said it can't do that
[09:36] <cytokinestorm> thanks I guess
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> cytokinestorm: it can, the partitions are standard, so can be deleted
[09:36] <cytokinestorm> mk
[09:36] <cytokinestorm> just told you it said it can't but thanks anyway
[09:38] <nytrix> i just installed myunity in ubuntu 12.04 classic desktop, where would i locate tis app?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> Cybertinus: it can. Ive used botyh OSes a long time
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> nytrix: use alt+f2
[09:39] <nytrix> nevermind
[09:39] <nytrix> thnx
[09:45] <terminhell> oh hai
[09:45] <daftykins> o hai
[09:46] <terminhell> whats new in the ubuntu?
[09:47] <daftykins> many a challenge for those buying new windows 8 computers, wanting to escape to the land of GNU/Linux!
[09:47] <daftykins> that's the general vibe i get ^_^
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: could by OS-less, or home build :)
[09:49] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: i mean that seems to be what we get in here lately
[09:49] <quatar> Hi all! I use Precise64-bit. I don't like that when I call an application that is open on another workspace, it tries to send that application to my workspace... But i'd prefer Ubuntu to take ME to the workspace of that application
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: i guess, i think its curiosity too
[09:50] <mokush> any idea why I can ssh login trough putty, but trying ssh user@host.com:1234 throws an "ssh: Could not resolve hostname " error?
[09:52] <daftykins> mokush: maybe host.com isn't working?
[09:52] <mokush> daftykins: it is, since I can log-in using putty, with the exact same details
[09:52] <terminhell> mokush: did you ask it nicely?
[09:52] <mokush> terminhell: even gave it a box of chocolates
[09:53] <gnomefreak> throw it agaisnt the wall or out the window
[09:53]  * terminhell stunned
[09:53] <mokush> terminhell: computers are such jerks
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> mokush: if you run:  cat /etc/hostname; echo "------"; cat /etc/hosts
[09:54] <daftykins> mokush: try specifying the variables differently, such as the switch (i forget what it is) for user instead of user@ and possibly one for port too
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> mokush: does the hostname appear in /etc/hosts
[09:54] <Darkstar1> How do I find out which gui shell I'm using and what version?
[09:55] <mokush> ActionParsnip: it doesn't, but I'm not using a direct ip. I'm using a domain name.
[09:55] <terminhell> I've been sending my computers xmas cards as of '06 so far so good :p
[09:55] <PatrickDickey> Darkstar1: Do you mean like Unity, Gnome, etc?
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> mokush: no, the system you are connecting to is having issue resolving its own name to <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> mokush: have you been mnessing with /etc/hostname
[09:56] <Darkstar1> PatrickDickey: Yeah
[09:56] <mokush> ActionParsnip: no, never
[09:56] <daftykins> terminhell: do they write back?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: ps -ef | egrep 'gnome-shell|gnome-panel|unity'   may help
[09:56] <terminhell> daftykins: all i get back is a bunch of 1's and 0's. I think they're conspiring, writting me in code and all.
[09:56] <iceroot> how to find out which nameserver is ubuntu using really? at the moment everything is resolved to <IP_ADDRESS> and i want to know if the real nameserver is <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:56]  * terminhell hides
[09:56] <Darkstar1> PatrickDickey: Think I'm on gnome. trying to find out how to minimise windows without the context menu since all I have is a single close window button
[09:57] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: tab complete fail!
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> mokush: try:   grep `hostname` /etc/hosts     do you get an output?
[09:57] <terminhell> iceroot: resolv.conf?
[09:57] <PatrickDickey> Darkstar1: echo $DESKTOP_SESSION will give you the desktop. I'm looking for the version now.
[09:57] <iceroot> terminhell: <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:57] <iceroot> terminhell: ubuntu is using an own nameserver (dnsmasq?) and i want to know what nameserver that local dns is usinbg
[09:58] <terminhell> iceroot: just amend it manually in it
[09:58] <mokush> ActionParsnip: yeah, one entry with <IP_ADDRESS> and the name of the pc
[09:58] <iceroot> terminhell: i dont want to change it i want to find out what <IP_ADDRESS> is using
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> mokush: cool, that's good
[09:58] <terminhell> iceroot: just add in "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:58] <iceroot> terminhell: i dont want to change it i want to find out what <IP_ADDRESS> is using
[09:58] <simNIX> hello - I forgot the name of a program: a program that lets you make from one web adress a seperate program (browser windows) that looks like a seperate program - does this ring a bell for anyone ?
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> terminhell: the file is generated when network manager starts
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: is there a dnsmasq channel?
[09:59] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: good question
[09:59] <mokush> ActionParsnip: is putty not using the same openssh service? how come it works?
[09:59] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: guess i will do some manpage reading
[09:59] <terminhell> ActionParsnip: its hard for me to believe that my verizon mifi hotspot is using google's dns...
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> terminhell: why, it's doing the job.....
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> mokush: you can switch dns to use a different order, may help
[10:00] <terminhell> ActionParsnip: ive set that dns manually
[10:00] <mokush> ActionParsnip: how do I do that?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> terminhell: same applies, if it does the job then who cares
[10:00] <PatrickDickey> Darkstar1: which desktop did it say?
[10:00] <Darkstar1> PatrickDickey: It's gnome
[10:01] <terminhell> nevermind
[10:01] <PatrickDickey> Darkstar1: then type gnome-shell --version and that will give you the version information.
[10:02] <Darkstar1> PatrickDickey: thanks
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> mokush: try:  echo "UseDNS no" | sudo tee -a /etc/ssh/sshd_config > /dev/null     then reload the ssh service
[10:02] <Darkstar1> PatrickDickey: Don't suppose you know how to minimise without bringing up the context menu?
[10:03] <PatrickDickey> Nope, sorry. I don't use Gnome. I'm using LXDE.
[10:03] <hariom> Hey guys, when I record my voice using built in mic of my laptop, there is no audio coming. File size is just 0bytes. How to fix mic issue? Same system mic works in Windows
[10:04] <mokush> ActionParsnip: same error :(
[10:04] <jaker3333> how long is it safe to use an old ubuntu build?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> mokush: did you run:  sudo service ssh reload    then log off and try to recoinnect?
[10:04] <jaker3333> nobody bothers to hack it anyway
[10:05] <jil> Hello
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: i'm sure they do
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: guess which OS wiukipedia uses.....
[10:05] <jaker3333> ActionParsnip:  i have 11.04 and i want it to be 10 yrs at least before i upgrade
[10:05] <gatuus> do ou know if it is really necessary to put the "ubuntu" user when creating a custom image of ubuntu with cloud-init?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: there will be holes discovered in it later and you will be vulnerable. Why not clean install with Precise
[10:05] <gatuus> "do you.."
[10:06] <mokush> ActionParsnip: I just restarted the ssh service. should I also log-out and try again?
[10:06] <jaker3333> ActionParsnip:  took me month to make it do what i want
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: don't you think Wikipedia get attacks, on a daily basis?
[10:06] <jaker3333> months*
[10:06] <jaker3333> i use windows XP on another PC. never bothered to update it
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: then it was probably EOL before you even started
[10:06] <jaker3333> an OS released on 2001
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: XP is still supported, its being phased out now (early stages)
[10:07] <daftykins> april 2014 XP finally dies
[10:07] <daftykins> \o/
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: using natty you will get no updates and no suport here or any of the other official channels. You will simply be told to upgrade
[10:07] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: I'd say it depends on a lot of factors. But, at some point, they won't make updates for the version anymore. So, when you run into problems, you won't be able to get current help.
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: the OS will run but the security holes in the packages will never get fixed
[10:08] <jaker3333> PatrickDickey:  will i be able to use latest brower in like 5 yrs ?
[10:08] <jaker3333> or it won't work on my 11.04?
[10:08]  * PatrickDickey knows of a company whos kiosks are still running Hardy Heron
[10:08] <Theodore> hi
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: you may be able to use the archived versions of browsers but they may fail to run as they will expect certain versions of libs in the OS
[10:08] <jaker3333> all i care about it browing the net on linux
[10:08] <Theodore> how are you all tonight?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: how does it take months, just to get web access?
[10:09] <jaker3333> once i used Internet explorer to view a file and the server launched an pplications from my temporarly folder to hack my pc
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> Theodore: 10am here, otherwise ok ;)
[10:09] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: I'd say it won't work. As distributions stop supporting the OS, so will browser makers. Heck, Google won't allow you to connect with older versions of Internet Explorer anymore.
[10:09] <jaker3333> it disabled all the programs and alit ctrl delete.. told me to press the OKay button on the screen to continue
[10:09] <daftykins> :D
[10:09] <jaker3333> i forced shut down and logged to another account and scanned teh pc
[10:09] <jaker3333> it found the virus in ie temp folder
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: how does it take months to configure a PC if you only need web access?
[10:10] <jaker3333> ActionParsnip:  cuz i'm not smart as you
[10:10] <jaker3333> i take ti step by step
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: the newer packages and kernel may make things work out of the box
[10:10] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: By configure, are you saying lock down all non-essential services, or do you mean just getting your stuff the way you want?
[10:11] <Theodore> ActionParsnip, im doing good too
[10:11] <jaker3333> PatrickDickey:  yes i make it as light as i can and i block everhing on the network except 1 port
[10:11] <Theodore> ActionParsnip, its 2:11AM here in southern california
[10:11] <jaker3333> i customize the browser too
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: you can backup the config folder for the browser and restore it in the new OS
[10:11] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: Some of that will remain, if you upgrade. And if not, you should be able to fix everything back up again pretty quickly.
[10:12] <jaker3333> i only run two things.. wine and a browser on it
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: wine is fun, what do you use?
[10:12] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: why wine?
[10:12] <jaker3333> to run 1 windows program
[10:12] <jaker3333> one
[10:12] <jaker3333> browser is native
[10:12] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: which one, if you don't mind my asking?
[10:13] <jaker3333> na. it's a secert
[10:13] <jaker3333> also that program runs best on wine 1.3
[10:13] <jaker3333> the GUI breaks on 1.5
[10:13] <jaker3333> so my luck
[10:14] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: no worries. Wine will still work. And you can install wine 1.3 on newer versions. You might have to do it manually, but you should be able to do it.
[10:14] <jaker3333> ok
[10:14] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: Does it work on 1.4.1? (wine)
[10:14] <jaker3333> i tried but the GUI is missing some edges
[10:15] <jaker3333> anyway.. i'm extremely happy with 11.04
[10:15] <jaker3333> never gave me a problem
[10:15] <PatrickDickey> edges, as in the window is too big, or something else? And more to the point, have you filed a bug with the wine developers about it?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: i recommend a clean install of Precise. If you must hold on to Natty then wait til April next year and install 14.04 (LTS also)
[10:15] <jaker3333> 120MB without page file at start up
[10:15] <jaker3333> better than XP or even win98
[10:15] <jaker3333> total RAM is 2GB
[10:17] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: You're preaching to the choir here. I'm running a DVR on an old Dell computer (like 2001 built). And an Amahi Home Server on a computer I built in 2003.
[10:17] <jaker3333> also the best part is faking your browser user agent on the net
[10:17] <jaker3333> it's showing win5.1 i think .. it means XP
[10:17] <jaker3333> so i someone trying to attack your broswer it won't work on linux
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: i cant think of a modern browser that can't do that....
[10:17] <jaker3333> if*
[10:18] <jaker3333> ActionParsnip:  yeah i know but i meant like what they did on my xp os by hacking me through IE
[10:18] <jaker3333> .exe won't work on linux
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: it will but it will only affect ~/.wine :)
[10:18] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: Yes it will.  Sort of.. You have wine installed. So, in theory it will run.
[10:19] <jaker3333> yeah but when i double click on it it says it can not open the file
[10:19] <jaker3333> must right lick on and chooose run on wine
[10:19] <jaker3333> so it won't
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: the exploits in the app will affect your ~/.wine folder. You don't necessarily have to double click it
[10:21] <jaker3333> anyway ActionParsnip  i will keep it for at least 5 yrs
[10:21] <jaker3333> thanks for the advice
[10:21] <jaker3333> if nothing get hacked i will add another 5 yrs
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: your call but there will be zero support here and zero updates to packages
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: if you just need web acces, you could try xpud
[10:22] <jaker3333> what is xpud ?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: go find out
[10:22] <jaker3333> ubuntu loads apps x2 faster than windows
[10:22] <jaker3333> very light on RAM
[10:22] <jaker3333> and very low on CPU load
[10:22] <PatrickDickey> Oops.. LOL
[10:22] <jaker3333> so i'm happy that this thing is free
[10:22] <jaker3333> unbelieveable
[10:22] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: All of the things you're saying are still true on later versions of linux.
[10:23] <sevenhill> jaker3333,  open isn't mean free always
[10:23] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: And, in truth, if you're that worried about security, you could use something like TOR (the Onion Router).
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: its been that way for a long long time
[10:24] <llutz> PatrickDickey: how is TOR security related?
[10:26] <PatrickDickey> llutz: In the sense that it hides your IP address for one. I may have misspoke on how well it's related though.
[10:28] <ponzellus> llutz: and your traffic gets encrypted, at least from your pc to the (trusty?!) node ;)
[10:28] <llutz> ponzellus: it doesn't
[10:30] <ponzellus> llutz: that's what this page says, though https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> ponzellus  anonymity is not security
[10:34] <llutz> MonkeyDust: it is, but not it-security, more personal
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> too many tinfoil hat wearers these days, more so ones who don't actually know what they are afraid of
[10:36]  * PatrickDickey hopes he's not a tin-foil hat wearer...
[10:36] <llutz> ActionParsnip: "nothing to hide" ?
[10:36] <PatrickDickey> Otherwise, someone forgot to tell my Facebook profile that. :P
[10:39] <luckymurali> Hi all
[10:39] <PatrickDickey> Hi luckymurali.
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> llutz: me personally, no
[10:39] <luckymurali> I have 3 users in gdm, and one of the user if Iam login It is coming back to login screen again
[10:40] <luckymurali> im able to identify that it is resolution issue and my ubuntu is 11.04]
[10:40] <PatrickDickey> luckymurali: do the other two usres have the same problem?
[10:40] <luckymurali> no
[10:41] <luckymurali> PatrickDickey: no
[10:44] <PatrickDickey> luckymurali: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742203 is one thread that sounds like your issue. Although they only had one user. But, you can still try logging in without desktop effects.
[10:48] <zerribert> more of a general open-source question here: if I modify the source code of a program under GPLv3, does it matter where I publish the altered version? would it be enough to just push it into my FTP server's public folder??
[10:48] <VP1> Want to change file permissions a folder on NTFS drive. chmod and GUI method does not work as expected. Any way out?
[10:49] <tarelerulz> Can Ubuntu play blue ray?
[10:49] <Mavrik> zerribert, as long as it's available to anyone who uses that program it's ok
[10:50] <VP1> Any answers? Pl
[10:50] <zerribert> Mavrik: thanks
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> VP1  goes chmod won't work on NTFS
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> guess*
[10:51] <zerribert> Mavrik: good thing, too. nobody would have wanted to go through my noobish code that I would have commited to the svn :)
[10:51] <VP1> Thats what the question  is! Then what is the way for NTFS
[10:52] <luckymurali> I have 3 users in gdm, and one of the user if Iam login It is coming back to login screen again
[10:52] <Eagleman> I am unable to get output from fetchmail. I want to see what it is doing. setting log file wont work either, what am i doing wrong?
[10:52] <luckymurali> rest 2 users are working fine
[10:52] <PatrickDickey> Eagleman: are they able to help you in dovecot?
[10:52] <luckymurali> It seems some resolution issue
[10:52] <luckymurali> how can i set it right
[10:53] <luckymurali> im using ubuntu 11.04
[10:53] <PatrickDickey> VP1: You have to go to Windows to change file permissions on a NTFS drive. Or format it into a POSIX - friendly filesystem.
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> luckymurali: natty is eol, no longer supported
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> luckymurali: I recommend a clean install of Precise
[10:55] <luckymurali> ok
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> !bluray | tarelerulz
[10:55] <PatrickDickey> luckymurali: I'll second ActionParsnip's motion, except that I'll add that you need to log in with a different user (an admin) and back up the /home directories of the users.
[10:59] <luckymurali> ok
[11:00] <PatrickDickey> luckymurali: This might help you, but don't quote me on it. And I still second ActionParsnip's suggestion. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-change-display-resolution-settings-using-xrandr.html The user will have to press CTRL+ALT+F2 to get to a console, and then CTRL+ALT+F7 when they want to return to the GUI.  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-change-display-resolution-settings-using-xrandr.html
[11:01]  * PatrickDickey hates when he double paste's links. :S
[11:04] <PatrickDickey> I'm off to bed soon. Have a great day/night everyone. :)
[11:13] <AtuM> Is there a specific channel for ubuntu server?
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> AtuM  #ubuntu-server
[11:14] <AtuM> tnx MonkeyDust
[11:14] <Space_Man> has ruby/rails been updated in 10.04 LTS, as there have been several security updates?
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> Space_Man  700+ people in #ruby, better ask there
[11:18] <Eagleman> What am i doing wrong with my sieve/fetchmail setup??  http://pastebin.com/wh4Q0YFY
[11:18] <mikecmpbll> i'm a programmer not a sys admin so excuse my ignorance. we have a ubuntu server with postfix for sending mail, and we put the sender address as<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but it's causing problems for some people because their mail servers rightly reject the mail because<EMAIL_ADDRESS>doesn't resolve
[11:18] <somsip> Space_Man: Here's your list: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ruby
[11:19] <Eagleman> I am having problems with delivering mail from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to RobinPoot folder with my sieve/fetchmail setup, nothing from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>gets delivered at all:  http://pastebin.com/wh4Q0YFY
[11:19] <mikecmpbll> what's the easiest way to set up the mail address so that it resolves? would it involve changing the dns, or playing with postfix, or both or either.
[11:19] <codephobic> hi
[11:20] <codephobic> I'm not sure whether this is an ubuntu problem or an issue with my ReadyNas Duo, but several mp3 folders I moved onto my NAS are now missing tracks.
[11:21] <codephobic> All in all, maybe 4-5hrs of CD rip sessions worth of tracks
[11:21] <codephobic> is there a known problem with transferring large amounts of files from a desktop to a Nas using Ubuntu?
[11:23] <codephobic> Also, is there anyway I can find out if files have been recently deleted accidentally (or maybe as a result of a crashed file transfer session with ubuntu)?
[11:24] <Space_Man> thanks somsip
[11:24] <blami> codephobic: I wouldn't recommend to move them using nautilus. Everytime I move a larger amount of files using nautilus something is missing
[11:25] <blami> codephobic: probably because of the fact the nautilus is designed by GNOME people who like to add ten or twenty layers of abstraction to everything to be sure there's enough space for code flaws and bugs
[11:25] <codephobic> blami, it seems I've been the victim of Nautilus.
[11:26] <codephobic> I've never really had a single major problem with linux, in all my dabblings.
[11:26] <blami> codephobic: anyway, I recommend to try just rsync it (if NAS supports that) or simply do cp in terminal. Also mc might work
[11:26] <codephobic> mc?
[11:26] <blami> codephobic: midnight commander ...
[11:27] <codephobic> I've never used that, I'm not that familiar with the utilities in ubuntu.
[11:27] <codephobic> hence my use of nautilus to transfer files, rather than using terminal
[11:27] <codephobic> I really didn't know how buggy it was
[11:27] <codephobic> very shocked
[11:28] <blami> codephobic: I had similar problem multiple times when I was copying something to CIFS/Samba volumes
[11:29] <codephobic> blami, sounds very much like my problem. I'm using cifs/samba shares on the NAS too
[11:29] <blami> codephobic: I think it's caused by some timeout which leads to server deleting the file but client sending next file after resume
[11:29] <codephobic> hmm, I'm really shocked and saddened by this. First time I've lost confidence in Linux.
[11:29] <blami> codephobic: when I mounted the volume manually using mount command from terminal and then copy files using bare cp command, everything worked well
[11:30] <codephobic> terminal works fast and smoothly, but sometimes it's easier - much easier - to select and place files in multiple category folders visually.
[11:30] <blami> codephobic: I know :)
[11:30] <codephobic> damn, should just have booted into windows...
[11:31] <blami> codephobic: If this happened recently to you it may be worth to check system logs
[11:31] <wlosio> Hi i have problem with LightDM -> http://hiddenb.bplaced.net/_d/111/20130115037.JPG
[11:31] <blami> codephobic: if something happens in kernel vfs or samba driver it should be noticed there
[11:31] <wlosio> LightDM havent correct splash :(
[11:31] <blami> codephobic: unfortunately this does not apply to gnomevfs and nautilus ...
[11:32] <codephobic> blami, I've only just realised today - I was planning on listening to some music and doing some work... then couldn't find my music ...
[11:32] <codephobic> blami, I think I'm going to have to rip the cds I still have, again.
[11:32] <codephobic> I actually dumped a whole load of cassettes a few months back, hopefully I haven't lost those too
[11:33] <codephobic> wow ... I'm really shocked at how shoddy nautilus is. I know it's buggy and a pita, but this is fundamental functionality stuff...
[11:34] <jlulu> hello guys
[11:34] <jlulu> may i ask your help
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> jlulu  if you're sweet
[11:35] <qwerkus> Hi everyone; how to you record h.264 streams from a webcam in ubuntu ?
[11:35] <Eagleman> I am having problems with delivering mail from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to RobinPoot folder with my sieve/fetchmail setup, nothing from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>gets delivered at all:  http://pastebin.com/wh4Q0YFY
[11:35] <jlulu> I'm sure I am:). I wanted to make an upgrade, from lisa to nadia, I changed my sources.list. But things doesn't work well, and now I'm stuck without X server
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> jlulu  mint?
[11:35] <iceroot> jlulu: lisa and nadia are not ubuntu releases
[11:35] <jlulu> MonkeyDust: yes
[11:35] <iceroot> !mint | jlulu
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> !mint| jlulu
[11:36] <jlulu> this is the chan name ?
[11:36] <iceroot> jlulu: that is the channelname and the irc network
[11:36] <jlulu> iceroot: so I have to connect under irc.mint.net and the chan mint ? Is that right ?
[11:36] <iceroot> jlulu: i think so
[11:37] <jlulu> iceroot: ok I try, thanks
[11:37] <iceroot> jlulu: #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[11:37] <iceroot> jlulu: as ubottu said
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> jlulu  connect to irc.spotchat.org, then enter #linuxmint-help
[11:38] <jlulu> thx a lot MonkeyDust and iceroot
[11:39] <mLux> Hi, which is the latest stable version of Ubuntu?
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> mLux  12.10
[11:39] <codephobic> Is there a stable alternative to nautilus?
[11:39] <mLux> MonkeyDust: Is it possible to upgrade to 12.10 from 10.04?
[11:39] <jrib> codephobic: what's wrong with nautilus?
[11:39] <codephobic> something that isn't out to sabotage your files?
[11:40] <codephobic> jrib, until today I just thought of it as buggy and slow
[11:40] <jrib> codephobic: and today?
[11:40] <hariom> Hello friends. Need help. When I record my voice, recorder shows that recording is in progress and file size also gets bigger as the duration increases. But when I play it back, there is no audio coming out. When I play another audio file downloaded from net, it plays audio fine.
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: pcmanfm2
[11:40] <hariom> Using ubuntu 10.04
[11:40] <hariom> 64bit
[11:40] <codephobic> jrib, after realising it lost 5GB+ of mp3s I've been ripping for months ...
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> hariom: Lucid desktop has about 4 months support left.
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: got backup?
[11:41] <codephobic> jrib, I used to transfer lots of files from my desktop to my NAS, now I find there are missing mp3s
[11:41] <TheBrayn> hi
[11:41] <jrib> codephobic: that seems pretty serious.  How do you know it was nautilus?  Did you file a bug?
[11:41] <hariom> ActionParsnip: yea, but I hope intelligent people will remain there to help. I will be shifting to 12.04 soon though
[11:41] <iceroot> mLux: you can upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 (LTS Version to LTS Version) and then if you want from 12.04 to 12.10
[11:41] <mLux> in my Synapatic Package Manager, it shows an upgrade button which says I can upgrade to 12.04, but I need to upgrade to 12.10.
[11:42] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, nope - the CDs are still in my cupboard but I dumped my old cassettes long ago.
[11:42] <mLux> iceroot: Got it, thanks.
[11:42] <iceroot> mLux: you are welcome
[11:42] <hariom> ActionParsnip: Would you help to fix that issue?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> hariom: good, just so you know :D
[11:42]  * daftykins winds a cassette up with a pencil
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> hariom: is the mic unmuted and maxed in alsamixer?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: as in a backup of the ripped MP3s...
[11:43] <codephobic> jrib, I experienced a few crashes whilst transferring files with nautilus, in the past. It seemed that the files still transferred safely, but the mp3s that I've been transferring over the past few months ... most of the folders are either empty or have one or two files in them.
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: pcmanfm2 loads fast and it is pretty light too :)
[11:44] <hariom> ActionParsing: yea, Mic 1 is max and has mute and Rec unchecked
[11:44] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, nope I thought it'd be safe enough to just place the files on my twin-hd NAS. It has redundancy (of sorts) and also, I can't afford the space on my SSD.
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> hariom: does the system have a make and model? Is it an external mic or built in?
[11:44] <hariom> ActionParsnip: built in
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> hariom: does the system have a make and model?
[11:45] <codephobic> thanks ActionParsnip, does it integrate ok with Unity/Ubuntu? I don't want to cripple other parts of the system.
[11:45] <hariom> ActionParsnip: Its Toshiba Satellite
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> hariom: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[11:46] <codephobic> I'm actually very shocked - still shocked - by Nautilus' sabotage. First time ever, since I began using Ubuntu as my primary desktop, that I've had a problem that I didn't think was "acceptable".
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: nautilus doesn't destroy data.
[11:47] <agsel> how do I reinstall unity on 12.04?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> agsel: its default installed
[11:47] <agsel> or is there a repair option?
[11:47] <agsel> ActionParsnip: I know, but it's kind of screwed up
[11:47] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, it seems to have failed to transfer my files, whilst reporting to me otherwise... resulting in the data being lost.
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> agsel: sudo apt-get --reinstall install `dpkg -l | grep unity | awk {'print $2'}`
[11:48] <jrib> codephobic: did you file a bug about nautilus' crashes?
[11:48] <agsel> ActionParsnip: whatever configuration I try to set, it doesn't work. keyboard shortcuts, some compiz options etc
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: then that sounds like the drive is faulty, nautilus just moves the data between the 2 places
[11:48] <codephobic> jrib, I didn't. I googled the issue and found bug reports covering my experience, so I left it at that and just tried to be more cautious.
[11:48] <arabi> http://pastie.org/5687748   all time I am getting the following error , while updating, installing all time :(
[11:48] <jrib> codephobic: which ones?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> hariom: use TAB and ENTER to navigate the text UI
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> hariom: a URL will be generated, what is it please?
[11:49] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, I'm pretty confident that the Nas is ok. I use it every day and I run checks every other week (health checks on disks/raid).
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> arabi: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: i suggest you check the disk health.
[11:50] <codephobic> jrib, the issue regarding stalling/crashing when lots of files are being transferred and the issue with browsing directories with lots of files ... iirc, I saw them on launchpad
[11:50] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, I checked - one of the first things I did before coming here
[11:50] <arabi> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> codephobic  to trnasfer a lot/large files, better use rsync
[11:51] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, both disks are fine, I even used windows to transfer over my web files then checked them against what I was expecting.
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> arabi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/201638/postgresql-fails-to-start-on-ubuntu-10-04-4-lts
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> arabi: I recommednd a rename rather than a delet
[11:52] <codephobic> MonkeyDust, I didn't know that it was so risky.
[11:52] <arabi> ActionParsnip, I tried what is saying on that post
[11:52] <jrib> codephobic: I'm asking for a link or bug number; I don't know what you found
[11:53] <hariom> ActionParsnip: It didn't give url at the end. Simply says: Your ALSA information is located at
[11:53] <hariom> Please inform the person helping you.
[11:53] <arabi> but still not working... i also followed some stack overflow posts :( still no way
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> hariom: ok, remove the '--upload' bit  and run it, select to not upload, open the resultinmg file in gedit and pastebin that normally
[11:54] <codephobic> jrib, oh, well, I'll have to google them as I checked the issue a few months ago (I came in here and mentioned the problem too - but didn't think it that great, since the files did actually complete their transfer).
[11:54] <hariom> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2060996
[11:54] <jrib> codephobic: ok
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> hariom: oh, its a virtual pc?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> hariom: are you running Ubuntu in virtualbox?
[11:56] <hariom> ActionParsnip: yea, but sound was working fine before
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> hariom: why did you not mention that at all?
[11:56] <hariom> ActionParsnip: Because I didn't think it could be problem. I have 5 VMs and they have audio perfectly running
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> hariom: its still detail about the setup, please give full details in future
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> hariom: try:   killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait 10 seconds and reboot
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> hariom: also run: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:team-iquik/alsa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils
[11:58] <codephobic> jrib, this is pretty similar to the kind of reports I saw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1075923
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> hariom: all from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure   which I imagine you have been to..
[11:58] <codephobic> I was only transferring 1-2gb at a time
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: try pcmanfm2
[11:59] <hariom> ActionParsnip: Is this ppa from backport? Why not standard lucid one
[11:59] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, is it fully compatible with Unity/Ubuntu?
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> codephobic  yes, it's in the repos
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> hariom: its a later version of alsa, Lucid has a painfully old Alsa version
[12:00] <codephobic> MonkeyDust, thanks.
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: why would it not be. Of course
[12:00] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, I don't know, I guess after this I'm a bit wary of assuming things "hang together" properly.
[12:01] <arabi> ActionParsnip, psql --version
[12:01] <arabi> psql (PostgreSQL) 9.1.7
[12:01] <arabi> contains support for command-line editing
[12:01] <arabi>    , but can't start it
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> codephobic  use rsync for 500+ MB files, it's faster and more stable than any GUI or file manager
[12:02] <codephobic> k
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> a good reason to get used to the terminal
[12:03] <jeffjeff_> join #puppylinux
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: works well here. I don't use nautilus these days, too slow
[12:03] <jeffjeff_> think I'm in the wrong place
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: could even use grsync as a gui to rsync :)
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  true :)
[12:05] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, I never cared that it was slow, I figured it was still quite an ok product... I'm just a bit shaken out of my general (naive) view that things more or less work to a reliable standard in Ubuntu/Linux... Obviously I could have transferred things in a more laborious (command line) fashion, but given that it seemed to do the job ...
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: it does, there are alternatives though. Could even use Rox etc :)
[12:07] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, I do like a lot of what it does, but losing files and misreporting transfers ... I don't think that's quite right.
[12:07] <jrib> codephobic: I think you should create a bug report (or find one more relevant).  I really don't see how the bug you linked is the same.  You should explain that nautilus somehow showed you that the transfer had completed and the files were available on the nas when in fact they weren't.  You also said it crashes, so I don't know if that played a part.  But you should mention it.  Especially if this is
[12:07] <codephobic> Anyway, I'm just shaken, as I say...
[12:07] <jrib> something that you can recreate, it would be useful to pin down and fix it
[12:08] <codephobic> jrib, I'll give it a go, I'm just not too well informed on the 'innards' of nautilus to provide much light in a bug report...
[12:09] <arabi> what does this means , how can I fix it pastie.org/5687968
[12:09] <arabi> pastie.org/5687968
[12:09] <codephobic> jrib, I'll rip some CDs and try doing transfers again, tonight.
[12:10] <codephobic> right now, I just wanted to share my experience, get some ideas on alternatives and maybe even other potential causes...
[12:10] <jrib> codephobic: #ubuntu-bugs can help in creating a bug report.  Hopefully, eventually the bug gets triaged and you'll get asked more details that you may have left out
[12:10] <OnlyHalfTheTime>  Arabi, what are you working with? 12.10, 10.04?
[12:11] <melo88> someone that can help me with my lan? If it's possibile with private massage pls.........
[12:11] <arabi> 12.10 OnlyHalfTheTime
[12:11] <codephobic> the crashes happen occasionally when I move large volumes (100+) of pdfs too (I tend to have ebooks on various disks going back to 2000...)
[12:11] <XtremeWiz> I can't install applications on Ubuntu 10.04 with terminal any more. Is it because 10.04 reached EOL?
[12:12] <codephobic> jrib, k... I'll try replicating my crash and then documenting things tonight.
[12:12] <cfhowlett> XtremeWiz, 10.04 is NOT eol!
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> XtremeWiz: its not eol yet
[12:12] <cfhowlett> XtremeWiz, not for a few more months
[12:12] <XtremeWiz> what else could it be then?
[12:12] <hariom> ActionParsnip: Restarting.
[12:12] <agsel> if I want to install KDE to my default unity @ 12.04 installation, is there anything I have to be aware of? Can I just install kde and boot into that?
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> XtremeWiz: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo apt-get update      thanks
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> agsel: you can, you will simply choose the session you desire at logon time
[12:13] <SwashBuckla> hey there, has anyone gotten their Bootchart to work?
[12:13] <arabi> OnlyHalfTheTime,  i am using 12.10
[12:13] <codephobic> anyway, thanks guys... sorry if I was complaining a lot ... Better out than in, I guess. When I get some perspective, I still see Linux (and especially Ubuntu) as something quite fantastic and worthy of the effort it takes us less skilled noodlers, to use.
[12:14] <XtremeWiz> ActionParsnip, sure, http://pastie.org/5688014
[12:14] <SwashBuckla> I get the error "ImportError: No module named pybootchartgui.main" when I run bootchart
[12:14] <SwashBuckla> I have googled this, errors seem to point to a python2/python3 problem
[12:14] <SwashBuckla> but I don't know how to fix it :/
[12:15] <pro> hello
[12:15] <OnlyHalfTheTime> Arabi, "if you are using the unstable
[12:15] <OnlyHalfTheTime> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[12:15] <OnlyHalfTheTime> or been moved out of Incoming.". It is possible that this package is not in the repos for this version yet. Try installing it on a live CD of 12.10 and see what happens
[12:15] <pro> trying to install nvidia drivers
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | XtremeWiz
[12:15] <pro> "you appear to be running X server blah blah blah"
[12:16] <agsel> ActionParsnip: I tried reinstalling unity as you told. but nothing happened
[12:16] <pro> what do? i tried to kill x server process but it just reboots it
[12:16] <XtremeWiz> ActionParsnip, did that, but I'm still having the same error. Resource temporarily unavailable.
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> pro: why not use the package version?
[12:17] <pro> package version?
[12:17] <cfhowlett> *dropbox* won't install!  Added the repo, did all the steps but it fails at the start command.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1534120/  I'm using this guide http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/install-dropbox-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ and it works fine on my dual boot Win7
[12:18] <pro> i just downloaded the latest nvidia drivers from the site
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> XtremeWiz: try: wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[12:18] <pro> .run format
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  have you visited to dropbox website?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> pro: the drivers are in the repos
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> the*
[12:18] <pro> double click just opens gedit, sh gives me that "x server" error
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> pro: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[12:18] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, yep, but nothing seems to address this ...
[12:18] <pro> well
[12:18] <pro> it says i already have nvidia-current
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> pro: you don't need to manually download anything
[12:18] <pro> but steam wont run
[12:19] <pro> says i have to update
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> pro: if you run:  nvidia-settings   do you get an error message?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> pro: steam is in beta, so is not a good test at all
[12:19] <SwashBuckla> bootchart error: I get the error "ImportError: No module named pybootchartgui.main" when I run bootchart. I have Googled this and found that this is possibly due to a python2 or python3 dependency, but I can not see relevant fixes on the internet. Any help would be much appreciated :)
[12:19] <pro> no it opens the nvidia x server settings
[12:20] <pro> says my driver version is 295.40
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> pro: and does it say the driver version in use?
[12:20] <pro> says my driver version is 295.40
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> pro: and which nvidia gpu do you have?
[12:20] <hariom> ActionParsnip: It is still the same
[12:20] <pro> quadro fx 570
[12:20] <hariom> I had killed pulseaudio, update the dist-upgrade and reinstalled alsa
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> pro: then the driver is installed and in use
[12:20] <hariom> ActionParsnip: No improvement yet
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> pro: if it wasn't then nvidia-settings kicks out an error
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> hariom: i'd ask in #vbox, get your settings checked
[12:21] <pro> but uhh
[12:22] <pro> "steam requires 304.22 or higher"
[12:22] <pro> "it appears you're using an older propertiary driver"
[12:22] <pro> so no game
[12:22] <agsel> my application switches is the one with small icons and I cannot click on them with mouse. how can I restore unity default one? or some other switcher? I have tried compizconfig settings manager. whatever I do there, nothing changes
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> !steam > pro
[12:22] <agsel> I'd like to use some other switcher where I can use mouse for example. the one with bigger icons would be nice
[12:23] <agsel> I tried reinstalling ubuntu-desktop, unity. nothing changed
[12:24] <agsel> 12.04 on virtualbox
[12:24] <pro> ugh, i give up
[12:25] <XtremeWiz> ActionParsnip: did that and something's being installed/updated/modified
[12:26] <Hyperbyte> pro, giving up won't help to remedy the problem. ;)
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> pro  steam for linux is very new, so you're kinda pioneer
[12:28] <XtremeWiz> ActionParsnip, 1068 upgraded, 676 newly installed, 44 to remove and 38 not upgraded.
[12:28] <Hyperbyte> MonkeyDust, if I understand correctly, all he has to do is install an NVidia driver version greater than 304.  That shouldn't be so hard....   ah, looks like he really did give up. :)
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> Hyperbyte  guess that's the dirty work someone has to do ;)
[12:30] <XtremeWiz> ActionParsnip: sudo apt-get update worked, and here's the output - http://pastie.org/5688083
[12:40] <SwashBuckla> is anyone here good at analysing bootcharts? I have an incredibly long boot process (2m10s): http://i.imgur.com/l2DOJ.jpg
[12:42] <SwashBuckla> also that resolution is awful
[12:43] <lovre> hi all
[12:44] <lovre> what could be the cause of wrong library name after install? For example, i install libsvn1, and get files like /usr/lib/libsvn_wc-1.so.0 instead of libsvn_wc-1.so.1
[12:44] <lovre> i installed with apt-get install subversion, which installed libsvn1. My OS is 64bizt
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> lovre  lsb_release -sd <- what's the output?
[12:47] <lovre> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> lovre  in 12.10 it's libsvn-wc-1, in 12.04 it may be wc-0
[12:48] <SwashBuckla> is anyone here good at analysing bootcharts? I have an incredibly long boot process (2m10s): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/50078832/bootchart.png
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> lovre  or so.0, rather
[12:49] <Godfather_> hi ubuntuoers
[12:49] <SwashBuckla> My boot process starts with 60s of what appears to be nothing. What is going on?
[12:49] <Godfather_> i have rebooted my ubuntu (and seems there is updated something) and now i can't get into unity
[12:50] <Godfather_> it ask me for my user, i enter the password, and then seems entering to the desktop and i get the login screen again
[12:50] <lcabreza> anybody has an idea how to make gta vice city work on wine 1.5.20 or usig playonlinux w/ precise
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> lcabreza  #winehq
[12:50] <auronandace> !appdb | lcabreza
[12:51] <lovre> MonkeyDust: i dont mind it being either way, but other software that need these libraries wont work. For example svn-workbench or rapidsvn (gui frontends for svn) wont work unless i create a soft link with so.1 instead so.0 for those libraries. Why is this, and can i solve this  any other way, since rapidsvn is crashing persistently on some actions with Segmentation fault error, which i guess is caused by wrong libraries.....
[12:51] <Godfather_> now i am on the prompt without X, how can i see the log to see whats wrong?
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> Godfather_  ctrl-alt f1
[12:52] <Godfather_> MonkeyDust: i am here
[12:52] <Godfather_> yes
[12:53] <Godfather_> but where is the log?
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> Godfather_  try dmesg
[12:54] <Godfather_> MonkeyDust: and then?
[12:55] <Godfather_> i can't see nothing strange here
[12:56] <Godfather_> MonkeyDust: how can i kill the x-server?
[12:56] <Godfather_> domelike /etc/init.d/gdm stop but this doesn't work now
[12:56] <auronandace> Godfather_: its lightdm
[12:56] <Godfather_> so how can i kill it?
[12:57] <fairuz> SwashBuckla: Maybe you can look up dmesg and see what is delaying the boot process.
[12:57] <auronandace> Godfather_: sudo service lightdm stop
[12:57] <Godfather_> auronandace: /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[12:57] <Godfather_> i get into the login screen
[12:57] <Godfather_> but i can't enter
[12:58] <lovre> !help
[12:58] <lovre> !lts
[12:58] <Sail> ok so i am doing ubuntu minimal install
[12:58] <lovre> what does it mean LTS is long term support, does it mean non-lts versions dont get updates? I never understood this clearly...*
[12:59] <cfhowlett> lovre, lts gets support for 60 months.
[12:59] <cfhowlett> lovre, non lts only gets 18
[12:59] <auronandace> lovre: lts releases are supported longer
[12:59] <cfhowlett> lovre, lts is also, generally speaking, a more polished release, i.e. less bleeding edge
[12:59] <Sail> ok so i am doing ubuntu minimal install now i am done with installtions i dont have xserver install now i want to install python-gnome2 can anybody show me the way
[12:59] <lovre> cfhowlett: what does that really mean? that non-lts will not get packages upgrades after that time?
[13:00] <jpds> Sail: sudo apt-get install python-gnome2 ?
[13:00] <lovre> cfhowlett: so if i want my system to be as stable as possible, i should remain on LTS version till the end, and then switch to another LTS?
[13:00] <radopi> lovre: yes
[13:00] <Godfather_> auronandace: i stopped it and then "startx" i get a black screen
[13:00] <Godfather_> its very sick this
[13:00] <cfhowlett> lovre, exactly
[13:00] <Sail> jpds: i did tht but its showing blank desktop no applet nothing just blank desktop
[13:00] <lovre> cfhowlett: i see
[13:01] <cfhowlett> lovre, note that a new LTS release comes out every two years ...
[13:01] <lovre> cfhowlett: i am currently on 12.04.1 which is LTS. I did a dist-upgrade and it didnt allow me to upgrade to 12.10. Is this normal?
[13:01] <jpds> lovre: Yes.
[13:01] <auronandace> !dist-upgrade | lovre
[13:01] <cfhowlett> lovre, so even though 12.04 is supported until 17.04, the next lts release will be 14.04 and 10.04 is still supported until 13.04
[13:01] <Godfather_> I get into the console "Protocol Not Specified"
[13:02] <jpds> lovre: Change /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades if you want to go to 12.10.
[13:02] <Godfather_> on the Xserver
[13:02] <Godfather_> when i try to startx
[13:02] <lovre> cfhowlett: i get it
[13:02] <dyd> lol, did they put advertisement in ubuntu?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: if you log in as a different user, is it ok? If you boot to an older kernel, is it ok?
[13:02] <jpds> dyd: No.
[13:02] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: try to google "ubuntu no protocol specified"
[13:02] <Godfather_> it seems there is a lot of stuff with this
[13:02] <dyd> jpds: dashboard, terminal, return, dashboard -> 20 books or stuffs :)
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: I'll use duckduckgo, but i'll see what it says
[13:03] <lovre> jpds, cfhowlett, auronandace: thank you all, i understand now
[13:03] <jpds> dyd: That's the Amazon plugin.
[13:03] <dyd> jpds: with prices, links to amazon; looks like adv
[13:03] <cfhowlett> lovre, have fun, be safe
[13:03] <lovre> cfhowlett: will do :D
[13:03] <dyd> jpds: for the love of god, why install it by default?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: do you have an xorg.conf file?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: what GPU do you use?
[13:03] <jpds> dyd: Welcome to 2013, that conversations been going around for a while.. you're late.
[13:04] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: i tried other user and i can loginª
[13:04] <dyd> jpds: just installed it after 6 months
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: have you been running GUI apps with sudo. eg:  sudo nautilus
[13:04] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: let me retry with my user
[13:04] <dyd> jpds: i've been on lubuntu for a while
[13:04] <jpds> dyd: http://blog.canonical.com/2012/12/07/searching-in-the-dash-in-ubuntu-13-04/
[13:05] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: i don't know, maybe yes, but i can remember cause this session have been active for 2 weeks or so
[13:05] <Godfather_> so i don't remember
[13:05] <jpds> dyd: Better: http://blog.canonical.com/2012/10/12/searching-in-the-dash-in-ubuntu-12-10-an-update/
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: what gpu do you use?
[13:05] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: for now, i can login with other user
[13:05] <dyd> jpds: thanks
[13:06] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: i don't remember, but its not nvidia and not ati
[13:06] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=858266
[13:06] <lovre> another question :) when i install a program from the synaptic, i get the latest version. What if i want an older one?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1   can you log in there?
[13:06] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: yes
[13:07] <cfhowlett> lovre, not sure why you'd want to but you can manually install older versions
[13:07] <Godfather_> but as i told you i can login with my usually user
[13:07] <Godfather_> i can login with another user
[13:07] <Godfather_> not with my typically user
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: ok, log in as your user and run:  sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[13:07] <lovre> cfhowlett: if i manually install, will i get updates for that software automatically? i guess not?
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> lovre  then you have to look outside the repos, but at your own risk
[13:07] <Godfather_> ok
[13:07] <ciccio> ciaohallo
[13:07] <cfhowlett> lovre, as monkeydust said, expect unintended consequences ...
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: also run:  lspci | grep -i vga   when it is done, what is output?
[13:07] <lovre> cfhowlett: i see
[13:08] <lovre> clear
[13:08] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: ok, wait a moment, its doing the chown
[13:08] <Godfather_> it can take a while cause i have a lot of files i though
[13:09] <Godfather_> can i go to ctrl+alt+f2
[13:09] <Godfather_> to see this?
[13:09] <Guest78016> HI, when i start vmware in ubuntu 12.04 it shows message to install kernel module updater but virtual network device and few other devices are not working and error appears..as"unable to start services"
[13:09] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: done the chown
[13:09] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: i have AMD Radeon HD 6000 Series
[13:10] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: LOL
[13:11] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: i did a service lighttdm stop and then startx and i get done into my account
[13:11] <Godfather_> it was a problems with the owner of the files?
[13:12] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: this is very sick, i rebooted and now the login is normally, all works
[13:13] <Guest78016> HI, when i start vmware in ubuntu 12.04 it shows message to install kernel module updater but virtual network device and few other devices are not working and error appears..as"unable to start services"
[13:13] <daftykins> Guest78016: often you have to run a configuration script vmware_config.pl or something first. i'd recommend you read the readme/docs
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: what happened to 'its not an ati' ?
[13:13] <auronandace> Guest78016: virtualbox and qemu are in the repos, any reason you are using vmware?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: probably the chown
[13:14] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: i thought it wasn't an ati
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: if you run:  history | grep sudo | egrep 'nautilus|gedit'        do you get any output?
[13:15] <auronandace> Godfather_: amd took over ati
[13:15] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip:  yes, 2 lines
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: then you are running GUI apps with sudo, which causes issues
[13:16] <Godfather_> auronandace: yes, but i believed it wasn't ati/amd
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: use gksudo for GUI apps, sudo is NOT for GUI apps
[13:17] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: anyway its very sick to break a system just for using a GUI APP with sudo, don't you think so?
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: you will probably find that there were some files in your home folder which were owned by root:root due to them being mangled by sudo
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: its what happens. Technically you can use gksudo for both
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: kdesu in kde is the kde equiv
[13:18] <_porque> can someone help me with a bash where I need to get the remote from git remote -v, does someone know how?
[13:18] <YamakasY> _ruben: he man, also here ?
[13:18] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip:  i usually do 'sudo -s', and then i open some GUI APP, this could be a problem, isnt?
[13:19] <auronandace> !gksudo | Godfather_
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: possibly. sudo -i   will use your user configs rather than root's
[13:21] <Godfather_> ok
[13:21] <Godfather_> thx to ActionParsnip auronandace  very very thx
[13:21] <Godfather_> i will use sudo -i or gksudo insited
[13:21] <auronandace> !yay | Godfather_
[13:21] <Godfather_> ubottu: thx to you also
[13:21] <Godfather_> lol
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> auronandace: glad we got there too :)
[13:22] <meet> i have winxp desktop and ubuntu 12.04. how to share files between the two on my home network to which they both are connected?
[13:22] <auronandace> !samba | meet
[13:23] <meet> auronandace, there is no other way than samba?
[13:23] <iceroot> meet: just create a share on windows or on ubuntu (right click on a folder) then the other machine should be able to see it using the "network environment" in the explorer
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: I actually email authors of how tos who use 'sudo gedit' in their guides to avoid this stuff :)
[13:24] <iceroot> meet: it will automaticly install samba when you create a share on ubuntu, so you dont have to deal with installing samba or configuring it by yourself
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> meet: could use an sftp server if you install openssh-server you will get one
[13:24] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: i read http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo very interesting
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> meet: or you could run an FTP server (not secure but fine for LAN access)
[13:24] <meet> iceroot: and how do i access windows xp folders here?
[13:24] <Godfather_> its very common to see sudo gedit .. :-D
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: yes, very annoying but i'm trying to clean it up one page at a time
[13:25] <iceroot> meet: open nautilis, click on "network" and it will show "WORKGROUP" or whatever your domain is called, click on that and you will see the windows machine and its share
[13:25] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: its your page?
[13:25] <iceroot> meet: or just use \\windowshost  in the file-browser
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: no, its just one that highlights the issue well
[13:27] <Godfather_> ok
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> meet: did you share folders in windows?
[13:27] <meet> ActionParsnip: yes. but the folders are not visible. only the winxp machine is visible
[13:28] <WeechWeb> meet: Have you rightclicked/share folder
[13:28] <scarofthesun> hello
[13:28] <WeechWeb> Hello
[13:28] <meet> WeechWeb: in winxp i put them in the shared folders.
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> meet: if you run:  smbtree   in ubuntu, do you see the shares?
[13:28] <WeechWeb> Ok
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> meet: if you have a 3rd party firewall, is it allowing the traffic?
[13:29] <meet> ActionParsnip: i just installed ubuntu yesterday so no idea if by default is on.
[13:29] <WeechWeb> No
[13:29] <WeechWeb> meet: its not on by default
[13:30] <meet> ActionParsnip: smbree returned my pc name not the winxp machine in the list
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> meet: are both systems on the same network?
[13:30] <meet> yes
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> meet: cna you ping the XP system?
[13:30] <WeechWeb> meet: have you got a win PC to test it with, see if it can connect
[13:30] <WeechWeb> meet: to check if it is ubuntu or weather it is the whole network
[13:31] <meet> i shared a folder and was immediately visible on my android phone through the lan file browser. but my ubuntu machine is not being shown on winxp. WeechWeb , ActionParsnip
[13:32] <meet> ActionParsnip: ping as in ping ip address right?
[13:32] <WeechWeb> meet: yes
[13:32] <WeechWeb> meet: like ping <IP_ADDRESS> (example IP)
[13:32] <WeechWeb> meet: run this on your windows PC pinging your ubuntu pc and the outher way round
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> meet: whichever makes it work
[13:33] <atlef> my nas seems to be mounted ad afp and not smb, how do i change that
[13:33] <atlef> *as
[13:33] <meet> WeechWeb: how to find my ubuntu ip?
[13:33] <WeechWeb> meet: is it a GUI based ubuntu
[13:33] <meet> WeechWeb: yes
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> meet  knowing IP is the very basic thing if you want to setup a network, better do some reading, first
[13:34] <WeechWeb> meet: ifconfig eth0
[13:34] <meet> WeechWeb: considering the level of my problems i am having you should have guessed ;)
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> meet: run:  ip addr
[13:34] <_porque> does anyone here know of a bash command to open a browser pointing to my git repo? like https://github.com/blabla/test.git
[13:34] <ovidiu-florin> Hello World, how does ubuntu update an application that is running, without stopping it? what happenes in the background?
[13:34] <meet> MonkeyDust: i know that for windows but not for ubuntu
[13:34] <ioria> meet: do you have a network icon ?
[13:35] <ztane> arrgh init does not reap zombie processes... do i have to reboot my computer to kill zombie firefoxen
[13:35] <ioria> meet: check info
[13:35] <meet> ioria: yes. in nautilus the windows network is visible but no machines or folders
[13:35] <WeechWeb> ovidiu-florin: i think it kills it
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> ztane  http://askubuntu.com/questions/48624/what-are-zombie-processes
[13:35] <ioria> meet: no .... in the bar
[13:35] <WeechWeb> meet: just use this http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17012/how-to-find-your-ip-address-in-ubuntu/
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> meet: do you have a 3rd party firewall (not the windows firewall)
[13:36] <ponzellus> _porque: what about <your-browser-of-choice> https://github.com/...
[13:36] <ovidiu-florin> WeechWeb: no, it doesn't
[13:36] <meet> ActionParsnip: nope
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> meet: ip addr     in terminal will show the ip address
[13:36] <WeechWeb> meet: they are right, its basic networking, do you also know how to get the ip from your windows pc? ;)
[13:37] <meet> WeechWeb: yes
[13:37] <ztane> MonkeyDust: init-+-firefox---43*[{firefox}]
[13:37] <ztane> MonkeyDust: obviously not reaping
[13:37] <_porque> ponzellus, I need to make it run on anyones computer here...so I need to make it find if that folder is a git and get the remote...I already have this: https://gist.github.com/4538691
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> ztane  you can just ignore zombie processes, they'll go away
[13:38] <_porque> ponzellus, Now I need to get the remote and use xdg-open https://github.com/....
[13:38] <WeechWeb> meet: have you got your computers ip yet? if that command isnt working/spewing out to much data try ipconfig i find its layed out better
[13:38] <ztane> MonkeyDust: i cant
[13:38] <ztane> MonkeyDust: in this case they hold locks for example
[13:38] <meet> i am pretty sure there's no problem with the network. they are on the same network. as i said on my android I can access from both.
[13:38] <_porque> so the users here will enter a the git folder and type, open and it will open the browser in the git.com/blabla/test.git
[13:38] <ztane> or have pids matching pidfiles
[13:39] <WeechWeb> meet: test it to see if they can though
[13:39] <WeechWeb> meet: because it may be smething like ubuntu can ping windows but not the outher way round, or something wierd,
[13:39] <meet> WeechWeb: the ping's all right
[13:40] <meet> i mean both can ping each other
[13:40] <_porque> ponzellus, the problem also is that when I get the remote values I need bash think it is a path so I get No such file or directory
[13:40] <WeechWeb> meet: have you got FTP or anouther way to test
[13:41] <meet> WeechWeb: no.
[13:41] <ztane> obviously init must be stuck at something, but what??
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> meet: what is the name of the remote windows pc and what is the share name you made?
[13:41] <meet> my ubuntu pc is not visible in my network places on winxp.
[13:42] <meet> ActionParsnip: share name is folder name?
[13:42] <ponzellus> _porque: ah ok, didn't see that in your first question :D not a bash scripting expert, sorry :)
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> meet: its the name you gave the share when you shared it
[13:42] <_porque> ponzellus, np ;)
[13:42] <meet> ActionParsnip: i am trying to share the videos folder in my home directory on ubuntu.
[13:43] <meet> same name
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> meet: so is the share called 'videos'?
[13:43] <meet> ActionParsnip: yup
[13:43] <WeechWeb> meet: if its not streaming cant you try FTP? or is it streaming
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> meet: and what is the XP hostname?
[13:43] <WeechWeb> meet: try making a new folder for it,
[13:44] <meet> ActionParsnip: as-desktop
[13:44] <meet> WeechWeb: but the folder's visible to other devices on the network.
[13:44] <atlantide> hi i have a problème with gdm3: gdm does not start the login window
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> meet: ok press ALT+F2 and run:  \\as-desktop\videos     does it show up ok?
[13:45] <WeechWeb> meet: or open terminal
[13:46] <meet> ActionParsnip: i am sharing a folder from ubuntu. so should that command be \\myubuntu\videos?
[13:47] <ztane> why would upstart not reap its children
[13:47] <meet> WeechWeb: ok
[13:47] <dwatkins> ActionParsnip: which theme/style are you using in fluxbox, pls? your orangey screenshot looked rather nifty
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> dwatkins: cant remember the name, let me check
[13:48]  * dwatkins discovered FluxStyle which is a handy manager for styles in fluxbox, of course
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> dwatkins: http://thrynk.deviantart.com/art/Zakeba-for-fluxbox-44537698
[13:49] <dwatkins> thanks ActionParsnip :)
[13:49] <_porque> Please someone help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/243464/bash-function-to-open-git-repository-with-browser
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> dwatkins: if memory serves
[13:49] <_porque> =)
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> dwatkins: then a woody background
[13:49] <ztane> i cannot restart firefox using the profile i need unless the zombies go away
[13:50] <meet> ActionParsnip: on the workgroup i am able to see only my ubuntu pc and not winxp machine.. what do i try next?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> meet: what workgroup is the XP system in and which is the Ubuntu system in ?
[13:50] <meet> ActionParsnip: they are the same name
[13:52] <ioria> meet: sorry, but i think that you should have a windows network  icon and inside it mshome and workgroup's icons
[13:53] <ioria> meet: or it is in my system
[13:55] <meet> ioria: i have a windows network icon but the winxp machine is not being gshown
[13:55] <ioria> meet: do you have a mshome icon ?
[13:56] <meet> ioria: no
[13:57] <ioria> meet: try smbclient -L xp ip
[13:59] <meet> ioria: thanks. but i think the problems on the winxp machine. i will check there. thanks ActionParsnip  WeechWeb and others. sorry for the trouble :)
[13:59] <ioria> meet: do you see a little hand under the shared folder in xp ?
[13:59] <juan__> hi
[14:01] <meet> yes
[14:02] <ioria> meet: right click - properties
[14:02] <meet> ioria: i think the winxp sharing is not setup properly. will check for it again.
[14:02] <ioria> meet: right click - properties -share
[14:03] <meet> ioria: did that already.
[14:03] <ioria> meet: it's checked ?
[14:03] <meet> ioria: setup the network on winxp again and ya it's working.
[14:04] <meet> ioria: thanks :)
[14:04] <ioria> meet: it's working ?
[14:04] <meet> ioria: yup
[14:05] <ioria> meet: well... very good congratulation
[14:05] <Eagleman> Is there a script which runs fetchmail at an succesfull imap login?
[14:05] <meet> ioria: :)
[14:05] <WeechWeb> meet: glad to see its all working
[14:07] <meet> WeechWeb: ya. btw sorry for the silly trouble :)
[14:07] <anathema_> hi guys, I have a lot of experience in the ubuntu setup dual boot in win7 but not in win8 (with bootloader, uefi etc). Is there any guide for installing dual boot ubuntu/windows 8 in a laptop?
[14:08] <WeechWeb> meet: dont worry, once you get the hang of it its good, acleast u learnet
[14:08] <blez> anathema_ I need the same thing.
[14:08] <challengerX> anathema : first install windows then ubuntu
[14:08] <blez> challengerX the UEFI loader don't detect ubuntu
[14:08] <anathema_> challengerX, there are already installed (New asus laptop)
[14:09] <anathema_> yea as blez said there is uefi and windows 8 bootloader
[14:09] <meet> btw i observed i am getting slow speeds while updating and downloading.. my whole bandwidth is being never utilized. what can i do to increase the speeds?
[14:09] <anathema_> it needs a "hack"
[14:09] <meet> WeechWeb: ^^
[14:10] <_porque> using bash, how can I echo a path without the "No such file or directory" ?
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> anathema_  http://www.intowindows.com/dual-boot-windows-8-and-ubuntu/
[14:10] <jrib> _porque: give an example
[14:11] <anathema_> MonkeyDust, this is an excellent tut but not for the UEFI enabled and WINDOWS 8 bootloader
[14:11] <_porque> jrib, this is returning a path: remote_url=$($remotes | cut -d" " -f1), I need to concatenate it with a string
[14:11] <_porque> jrib, but the remote_url is a path
[14:12] <jrib> _porque: and?
[14:12] <_porque> jrib, I can't concatenate a path with a string I get the "No such file or directory"
[14:12] <jrib> _porque: show what you are doing
[14:13] <_porque> jrib, https://gist.github.com/4538691
[14:14] <_porque> jrib, in this example I don't concatenate yet but I'll simply do url="$url$remote_url" and echo it
[14:15] <jrib> _porque: that's fine, you can do that
[14:15] <_porque> jrib, now it is the way I need it: https://gist.github.com/4538691
[14:16] <jrib> _porque: and what's the problem?
[14:16] <_porque> jrib, when I run it, I get this: bash: planobe/walk-manager-3.git: No such file or directory https://github.com/
[14:16] <Eagleman> Is there a script which runs fetchmail at an succesfull imap login?
[14:16] <_porque> jrib, I can't concatenate the path inside remote_url with the string inside url
[14:17] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:17] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, greetings!
[14:18] <BluesKaj> hi cfhowlett
[14:18] <jrib> _porque: put something like "echo var is $var" after every line where you set a variable, then show the output.  So for example: echo remotes is "$remotes"
[14:19] <_porque> jrib, ok
[14:20] <_porque> jrib, doing this with the remote_url I get this: bash: planobe/walk-manager-3.git: No such file or directory
[14:20] <_porque> remote_url is
[14:21] <jrib> _porque: oh right, now I see it.  Your remote_url line is weird...
[14:22] <jrib> _porque: you can put "echo" before "$remotes" if you want
[14:23] <_porque> jrib, same thing
[14:23] <jrib> _porque: show the new version
[14:23] <_porque> jrib, http://askubuntu.com/questions/243464/bash-function-to-open-git-repository-with-browser
[14:24] <jrib> _porque: this is different and I still don't see echo...
[14:24] <_porque> jrib, yeah...I need to concatenate these two string to make it open in a browser
[14:25] <jrib> _porque: you're trying to execute $remotes...
[14:25] <_porque> jrib, maybe, I'm new to bash, what I need is to get its value
[14:25] <_porque> jrib, not execute it
[14:26] <jrib> _porque: in your terminal you would do: « echo foo bar | cut -d" " -f1 », but you instead are doing: « foo bar | cut -d" " -f1 ».  do you understand?
[14:26] <_porque> jrib, yes, I get it...
[14:26] <_porque> jrib, is there a way to "save" the return from this execution?
[14:27] <Eagleman> output it to a file ?
[14:27] <jrib> _porque: what you had before in your gist post was fine, just put "echo" before "$remotes"
[14:28] <_porque> jrib, but it will print the value in the terminal, I need it to concatenate with another string: I need something like this: https://github.com/bla/my_project.git, where my_project.git will be dynamic, depending on the folder you are
[14:28] <Eagleman> Can i safelly delete  postfix-script and post-install in /etc/postfix/ ?
[14:29] <_porque> jrib, this: $remotes | cut -d" " -f1 is getting the value from "git remove -v" origin
[14:29] <jrib> _porque: I don't know why you keep posting new links.  If you just stick with your original gist post and make the change I said, I believe it will do what you are looking for
[14:29] <_porque> jrib, ok..gonna try that =)
[14:30] <meet> how to get wget on ubuntu?
[14:30] <WeechWeb> meet: its pre installed :)
[14:30] <fidel_> meet: install it via apt or similar
[14:30] <fidel_> if it isnt there already
[14:30] <WeechWeb> meet: if it is not: sudo apt-get install wget
[14:30] <_porque> jrib, doing so I have the string printed in my terminal, I don't need it printed
[14:30] <jrib> _porque: show what you are doing...
[14:31] <meet> WeechWeb: ya it's there :) nice
[14:31] <d4yn> :q
[14:31] <WeechWeb> meet: No probs, do u wanna wget from HTTP or FTP, need any help? i used it a min ago to mirror my FTP server for backup reasion :D
[14:33] <meet> WeechWeb: for http. downloading a big file so i thought it might be better. :D btw where will it store the file? i did not specify output dir.
[14:33] <_porque> jrib, https://gist.github.com/4538691
[14:33] <WeechWeb> meet: tip, make a screen
[14:33] <WeechWeb> meet: then u can leave it, open it on SSH ect..
[14:33] <WeechWeb> meet: sudo apt-get install screen
[14:34] <jrib> _porque: no, in line 8, put "echo " before "$remotes"
[14:34] <WeechWeb> meet: if u dont specify output DIR, it will be in the DIR you are in
[14:34] <WeechWeb> meet: (by default your home folder :D )
[14:34] <meet> WeechWeb: the home directory by default?
[14:34] <meet> ok :)
[14:35] <_porque> jrib, THANK YOU!!
[14:35] <_porque> jrib, thanks a lot for your patience =)
[14:35] <meet> actually computing with linux is fun :) feels faster and easier in fact.. do I have to learn a lot but :)
[14:35] <WeechWeb> meet: whatever direcoty u are in
[14:35] <TheGrey> o/ I've setup a RAID 1 on my install..It seems I cannot detect any more hard drives if I plug them in...help please!
[14:35] <meet> WeechWeb: what is that screen for?
[14:35] <bean> TheGrey: the drives are likely disabled in your BIOS
[14:36] <WeechWeb> meet: so u can leave the screen and the process will still run, u dont need it, prob not good for starters :)
[14:36] <meet> WeechWeb: i saw the help it showed something -h option. not like that?
[14:36] <dcope> why would ubuntu think my tv is 72" when it's not over hdmi?
[14:37] <newlinux> Hi All
[14:37] <meet> WeechWeb: my bad
[14:37] <TheGrey> bean: but I didn't do a firmwire RAID setup though
[14:37] <newlinux> can I have zimbra mail with apache web server in the same ubuntu server?
[14:38] <WeechWeb> meet: dont worry, remember, choose the closet mirror if its Linux, i keep copys of linux so i dont need to download it from the internet evreytime :D
[14:38] <bean> TheGray: that doesn't mean the drives aren't disabled in bios
[14:38] <vitimiti> (^_^)/
[14:39] <xomrk> guys i have an  $temp ( np linux is a great system ) how to ad " before and after to variable temp ? i want have echo $temp = "linux is a great system "
[14:39] <xomrk> ?
[14:39] <ponzellus> meet: try this link, should be enough to read until sec. 3.3 :) http://nathan.chantrell.net/linux/an-introduction-to-screen/
[14:39] <bean> xomrk: you don't really understand how that works
[14:39] <bean> xomrk: temp="linux is a great system"
[14:40] <bean> xomrk: echo $temp
[14:41] <ponzellus> xomrk: escape your ": temp="\".....\""
[14:41] <anykey> can someone tell me what the meaning of the files in /var/crash is? I mean what is the difference between .crash, .upload, .uploaded files?
[14:42] <xomrk> my problem is that i have in var something like that  $temp= Del Rey - Blue Jeans.mp3 and i want to have an " on begin and end
[14:42] <xomrk> can i plese an example
[14:42] <bean> xomrk: you'll likely need to provide more code for any help
[14:42] <xomrk> ok
[14:42] <bean> xomrk: you could pastebin or gist your code
[14:42] <bean> I'll be back in a little bit -- gotta run to work
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> xomrk  try the channel #bash
[14:44] <blami> I wouldn't recommend him to do so :P
[14:45] <meet> ponzellus: thanks for the link. got some idea about screen. :)
[14:45] <xomrk> ok here it is
[14:45] <xomrk> http://pastebin.com/bjG6mPvX