[04:23] <temporarytao> cdoktor19, be warned though. i think flash isn't that great with 64 flavor yet
[04:23] <Spaz_Dynamic> celthunder: alright, thanks. I've just never done it before so I wasn't 100% certain.
[04:23]  * tripelb dances a bit.
[04:24] <celthunder> cdoktor19: yeah it's fin
[04:24] <celthunder> temporarytao: flash works fine...just make a 32 bit chroot or use multilib
[04:24] <temporarytao> celthunder, i stand corrected
[04:25] <temporarytao> tripelb, loved that movie. good thing you saved it
[04:25] <cdoktor19> how to make a 32 bit chroot ??? am newbie
[04:26] <cdoktor19> how to make a 32 bit chroot or multilib which is the easy way,
[04:26] <Herbs> cdoktor I would advise you learn what chroot does first
[04:26] <celthunder> cdoktor19:  multilib is probably easier then unless you want to seperate 32 bit apps from 64 and since you don't seem to care...
[04:27] <cdoktor19> oh
[04:28] <temporarytao> cdoktor19, that's a bit involved. probably best if you stick with 32 bit first, IMHO.
[04:28] <devkorcvince> any issues on updating 10.10 64 -> 11.04 64?
[04:28] <cordoval_> can i install effects on natty?
[04:28] <cordoval_> sounds the youtube video had effects
[04:29] <cordoval_> was that compiz or some other?
[04:29] <Herbs>  hi all, I have an 8.04 box (not mine) that is failing to login as tty1 is respawning whenever a user is being authenticated, /etc/events.d/tty1 looks ok script content and permissions /dev/tty1 also anyone got any ideas Im lost with this one
[04:29] <ChogyDan> Spaz_Dynamic: just use manual partitioning, and make sure /home isn't formatted
[04:29] <cordoval_> how about copying pasting from the terminal with few keystrokes without having to do the ctrl+c +v thing?
[04:30] <cdoktor19> ok i will fin some information about multilib and how to make a 32 bit chroot, are some one have a link to that page ?
[04:30] <ChogyDan> cordoval_: I use middle click
[04:30] <Herbs> I did think the ownerships of /bin/login were iffy but changing them on test boxes has no affect
[04:31] <cordoval_> anyone knows how to copy paste from the terminal to elsewhere? I highlight but then what?
[04:31] <cordoval_> my mouse has not middle click
[04:31] <cordoval_> or it does the wheel
[04:31] <cordoval_> ?
[04:31] <cordoval_> but is that the way?
[04:31] <crapsh> HI!
[04:31] <ChogyDan> cordoval_: maybe with the wheel, or maybe emulated by pressing both at the same time
[04:31] <cordoval_> oh yeah it works
[04:31] <bloopletech> cordoval_: click both buttons at once
[04:31] <cordoval_> thanks
[04:31] <cordoval_> the wheel is hard though
[04:31] <cordoval_> but simpler
[04:31] <cdoktor19> [ 3551.409037] pwrdown, 0x6(BIT6)=ff
[04:31] <cdoktor19> [ 3551.514123] rtl819xSE:No more TX desc@6, ring->idx = 0,idx = 0, skblen = 0x2a
[04:31] <cdoktor19> [ 3551.514131] rtl819xSE:No more TX desc@6, ring->idx = 0,idx = 0, skblen = 0x2a
[04:31] <cdoktor19> [ 3551.625982] rtl819xSE:No more TX desc@6, ring->idx = 0,idx = 0, skblen = 0x2a
[04:31] <cdoktor19> [ 3551.625989] rtl819xSE:No more TX desc@6, ring->idx = 0,idx = 0, skblen = 0x2a
[04:31] <cdoktor19> [ 3553.415696] pwrdown, 0x6(BIT6)=ff
[04:31] <cdoktor19> [ 3555.415823] pwrdown, 0x6(BIT6)=ff
[04:32] <FloodBot2> cdoktor19: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:32] <audhi> #ubuntu+1
[04:32] <cordoval_> anyone knows how to pastebinit but graphically or to specific service? from a browser or from other editor for instance?
[04:32] <cdoktor19> i have that message, is that ok
[04:32] <cordoval_> pastebinit with the less clicks possible
[04:33] <kellnola> any pitivi users in here?
[04:33] <ChogyDan> cordoval_: what's wrong with the current behaviour?
[04:33] <cordoval_> too many clicks, for instance if I have to select some output from the terminal or a browser
[04:34] <cordoval_> I don't want to paste it into a document or open a browser page
[04:34] <cordoval_> but rather directly click and it saves the url on memory to paste
[04:34] <ChogyDan> cordoval_: pastebinit doesn't involve clicks??
[04:34] <cordoval_> pastebinit is limited to terminal and sometimes i cannot pipe the output that i want
[04:34] <cordoval_> I have to save to document first then use the command
[04:34] <Herbs> ok as you all cant help me with my questio which is fine btw, can anyone point me to a reference for a red hat admins guide to ubuntu servers
[04:34] <cordoval_> a lot of keystrokes
[04:35] <kellnola> Herbs, huh?  It can be frustrating.
[04:35] <gogearvibe4g> lols....peeps
[04:35] <cordoval_> php some command | pastebing does not work!
[04:36] <kellnola> the whole init / upstart thing would be painful to an RHEL type
[04:36] <beegle> i like peeps
[04:36] <gogearvibe4g> the mashmallow ones? ^^ me too! xD
[04:36] <Herbs> kellnola basically Im a red hat based server admin and Ive been asked to look at an ubuntu server thats borked but theres a few differences in locations service names stuff like that
[04:36] <ChogyDan> cordoval_: sometimes doing it like this works for me: pastebinit<(command etc etc)
[04:36] <bryar> Hello! ^_^
[04:37] <kellnola> Herbs, LTS is for production. The regular distro is actually pretty bleeding edge
[04:37] <cordoval_> hmmm oh thanks ChogyDan, how to change provider, I want pastie.org rather
[04:37] <sdegutis> <3
[04:37] <sdegutis> /me does not have CTCP actions implemented yet :(
[04:37] <ChogyDan> dunno
[04:37] <cordoval_> rats!
[04:37] <IHateNaggers> 9/11 was an inside job
[04:37] <kellnola> Herbs, what's the prob. exactly?
[04:37] <rww_> !ot | IHateNaggers
[04:37] <rww_> that works too
[04:37] <Herbs> kellnola you cant get more bleeding edge than Fedora :D
[04:38] <mickster04> :D
[04:38] <bryar> Quick question. Does anyone know how to get Gnome 3 for Ubuntu 11.04?
[04:38] <kellnola> Herbs, yes but that is RPM ... ANATHEMA!
[04:38]  * hiexpo without the peeps you guys would be still using windows    >    click - n go       doorknobs
[04:38] <cdoktor19> :)
[04:38] <Ketterer> hey
[04:38] <cordoval_> rats! need to change to pastie.org
[04:38] <cordoval_> cordoval_: sometimes doing it like this works for me: pastebinit<(command etc etc)
[04:39] <Ketterer> so i was wondering if it is worth doing a reinstall tomorrow with official if i have beta 2 running right now?
[04:39] <rww_> !final
[04:39] <Herbs> kellnola its just the thinks like no chkconfig I need an ubuntu guide for red hat users :D
[04:39] <hiexpo> !fresh | Ketterer
[04:40] <kellnola> Herbs you can install chkconfig but it doesn't work with everything
[04:40] <hiexpo> Ketterer, fresh install is always better
[04:40] <Herbs> I know but this aint my box
[04:41] <Herbs> and the problem is tty1 dies whenever you try to login
[04:41] <Ketterer> ya i should do fresh ehh thats what i figured ( i have never like upgrade) i used it back on like 6.10 > 7.04 and it screwed me over so iv never liked it but i wasnt sure if it was better now
[04:41] <cordoval_> rats! can someone knows how to change provide for pastebinit?
[04:41] <cordoval_> to pastie.org or is it hardcoded?
[04:42] <Ketterer> thanks guys
[04:42] <Ketterer> have a goo night
[04:42] <hiexpo> rww_, everyone thinks new is betta     hehe      >     I   will stick to my 10.04       >   screaming fast with <IP_ADDRESS> kernal
[04:42] <kellnola> Herbs, you can use update-rc.d
[04:42] <Gloopie> j
[04:43] <cordoval_> rats!
[04:43] <rcmaehl> hiexpo: my 10.10 LTS is much faster :P
[04:43] <Herbs> kellnola even if its using upstart for tty1 ?
[04:44] <rww_> 10.10 LTS isn't real.
[04:44] <hiexpo> rcmaehl, i get boot at 34 secs    :)    and 10.10 is not lts     :)
[04:44] <RealOpty> ^
[04:44] <kellnola> udo update-rc.d -f daemon remove <- like chkconfig daemon off
[04:45] <Herbs> arent all LTS .04
[04:45] <kellnola> Herbs, yes but not all .04 are LTS
[04:46] <Spaz_Dynamic> howcome numlock is on, though my keyboard indicator is off?
[04:46] <Herbs> kellnola cool I will give it a go as they have alot of custom start up scripts
[04:47] <Herbs> another day though Ive spent long enough
[04:47] <renancoelho> Hi there, ubuntu was taking unusually longer to load and I did a reset, right before the computer turned of I saw that the ubuntu screen came up, therefore everything was fine. However, after restarting it, it goes straight into bash.
[04:47] <renancoelho> Any suggestion?
[04:47] <celthunder> renancoelho: any errors? is gdm running?
[04:48] <renancoelho> gdm? I am really new to ubuntu, although I love it. I am able to run commands and cd places..
[04:48] <hiexpo> new slack out
 when you get dumped to bash if you type init 3 what happens?
[04:49] <renancoelho> didn't try, it said to put a command and when I did it, it would say it could not find it...
[04:49] <Herbs> sorry Im a server admin with red hat based it might be init 5
[04:50] <Herbs> whatever the run level for gui is
[04:50] <renancoelho> I had to boot into windows...
[04:50] <celthunder> Herbs: init 5 is i thought X session init 3 is terminal
[04:50] <renancoelho> each one is gui?
[04:50] <celthunder> init 1 single user and 2/6 reboot/shutdown (i think)
[04:50] <cylob> hey, how long until 11.04 is available for download?
[04:51] <Herbs> init 1 is single user 3 is CLI 6 is reboot I think 5 is gui
[04:51] <renancoelho> I am a single user, will init 1 load single user with gui?
[04:51] <celthunder> Herbs: yeah sounds right
[04:51] <cordoval_> what is the effect like mac minimizing and getting windows opened?
[04:51] <renancoelho> or just command line?
[04:51] <celthunder> renancoelho: no
[04:52] <cordoval_> is that water effect?
[04:52] <gueriLLaPunK> i want to make a SSH shell for a friend. what settings do I enter for his username?
[04:52] <MandoJM> hi
[04:52] <cordoval_> how to set up the mac like effect? for windows?
[04:52] <gueriLLaPunK> like User ID or shell access... just /bin/sh?
[04:52] <celthunder> gueriLLaPunK: whatever you want? just make sure he has a shell and preferably a home dir so he doesn't get thrown in /
[04:52] <cordoval_> how to set up the mac like effect? for windows?
 no single user dont work like that if you want its the alternate of windows safe mode
[04:52] <cordoval_> anyone?
[04:52] <BC_> anyone know how to get 32-bit compatibiliy working again in natty?  i tried reinstalling it and that did not fix it
[04:52] <snow_us> hi
[04:52] <MandoJM> anybody knows what time is the 11.04 coming out?
[04:53] <cordoval_> it is working on me
[04:53] <celthunder> BC_: install the 32 bit libs?
[04:53] <cordoval_> how to set up the mac like effect? for windows
[04:53] <cordoval_> for windows on natty?
[04:53] <snow_us> I want to know how to remove the "sudo" authority from the first (default) user in ubuntu ?
[04:53] <celthunder> cordoval_: stop repeating...if someone knows they'll answer
[04:53] <renancoelho> Herbs: oh.. ok.. I will try init 5 then... if not I will log back to windows... Thanks!
[04:53] <celthunder> snow_us: visudo
[04:53] <snow_us> I couldn't find the name in /etc/sudoers !
[04:53] <cordoval_> sorry just wanted to repeat the effect that I saw on youtube natty demo
[04:53] <hiexpo> !natty | MandoJM
[04:53] <cordoval_> it had like mac windows dynamics
[04:53] <cordoval_> really nice
[04:53] <cordoval_> i wonder if that is compiz or not
[04:54] <cordoval_> or which values because mine seems too fast or it is not there
[04:54] <MadDecent> google it
[04:54] <apprentice3d> The 11.04 will be on friday
[04:54] <cordoval_> what is the name of that effect?
[04:54] <cordoval_> rats!
[04:54] <cordoval_> how to google it without the name?
[04:54] <snow_us> celthunder:  I couldn't find the name in /etc/sudoers !
[04:54] <cordoval_> cats!
[04:54] <BC_> the 32 bit libs are already installed and were working up until a about a week ago more or less and then i started getting the wrong elf class errors after one of the updates
[04:54] <Axlin> cordoval_: you mean the "genie" like effect when minimizing? that is a compiz effect, but i can't tell you the name of it at the moment (running kde)
[04:54] <sebsebseb> apprentice3d: nope  11.04 later on Thursday
[04:54] <cordoval_> yes
[04:54] <cordoval_> genie effect
[04:54] <cordoval_> is called?
[04:54] <cordoval_> wow
[04:54] <celthunder> snow_us: hmm...remove it from group wheel/sudo?
[04:55] <rzx237> cordoval_: magic lamp
[04:55] <crackguy> could someone please help me to resolve this issue: (iscsiadm: iscsid is not running. Could not start it up automatically using the startup command in /etc/iscsi/iscsid.start. Please check that the file exists or that your init scripts have started iscsid)
[04:55] <cordoval_> magic lamp thanks!
[04:55] <snow_us> celthunder: what happens if there is no user that has sudo authority :))) ?
[04:56] <celthunder> snow_us: you use su
[04:56] <cordoval_> it does not show up though, sometime I had to do?
[04:56] <apprentice3d> sebsebseb: you're right - 28th is Thursday
[04:56] <snow_us> there is no user called su
[04:56] <celthunder> snow_us: if you don't set a root pw or forget to just login to single user mode and set one
[04:56] <celthunder> snow_us: su is a command to switch user
[04:56] <cordoval_> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/get-the-os-x-genie-effect-in-compiz-easily/
[04:56] <snow_us> ok
[04:57] <sebsebseb> apprentice3d: 28th is today in my time zone
[04:57] <MadDecent> any eta for release?
[04:57] <rww_> MadDecent: no set time, will be announced on the ubuntu-announce list and in #ubuntu-release-party
[04:58] <apprentice3d> Sebsebseb: for me there are still less than 3 minutes :)
[04:58] <AbuMaia> MadDecent: sometime on the 28th ^_^
[04:58] <cc11rocks> for me less than 2
[04:58] <dxer> haha same here
[04:58] <sebsebseb> AbuMaia: well nearly had five hours here of the 28th,  kind of sad that I don't feel tired though in a way, because I been awake quite  a lot of hours now
[04:59] <sebsebseb> AbuMaia: wrong one
[04:59] <sebsebseb> apprentice3d: see above
[04:59] <apprentice3d> I think they should have put a countdown or something because my notebook is now clean and waiting for official 11.04
[04:59] <sebsebseb> apprentice3d: no no count down, because no one knows for suer when it will be out yet
[04:59] <AbuMaia> there was a countdown, only in days though
[04:59] <dxer> is there a way to show the text during boot? (natty beta 2.. for now :))
[05:00] <sebsebseb> apprentice3d: all we know is it's coming out on the 28th in most time zones, some time
[05:00] <xkemix> what time zone do they run on
[05:00] <cordoval_> rats! i followed instructions and got it messed up
[05:00] <xkemix> PST MST CST or EST
[05:00] <AbuMaia> I want to say Pacific
[05:00] <AbuMaia> but I'm not sure
[05:00] <rww_> xkemix: There is no set time or timezone.
[05:00] <rww_> xkemix: It'll be released sometime between now and when it stops being April 18th everywhere on the planet.
[05:01] <apprentice3d> sebsebseb: then I was right, it will be available on Friday (if the servers will survive)
[05:01] <AbuMaia> 28th
[05:01] <sebsebseb> rww_: 18th ?
[05:01] <rww_> sebsebseb: I am falliable!
[05:01] <rww_> xkemix: I mean 28th, as AbuMaia said :)
[05:02] <xkemix> well its 12:01am EST and no download
[05:02] <xkemix> wait for the next hour lol
[05:03] <cordoval_> rats!
[05:03] <bryar> exit
[05:03] <renancoelho> Hi, I am the guy who the gui wouldn't load...
[05:03] <renancoelho> didn't work...
[05:03] <renancoelho> say's it cant find init/
[05:04] <renancoelho> then I tried to do exit, and it says the init is taited...
[05:04] <renancoelho> tainted
[05:04] <semitones> rww_, what's the differences in packages between the natty you can have now, and the natty that comes out later today?
[05:04] <rww_> semitones: The natty that comes out later today contains fixes for any last-minute bugs they find.
[05:04] <rww_> semitones: This actually happened in 10.10 and probably other releases, btw. I'm not being theoretical :)
 if it couldnt find init it wouldnt boot
[05:05] <Herbs> check the users path
[05:05] <semitones> rww_, bugfixes since the last freeze? how much time elapsed since then? :P
[05:05] <cordoval_> anyone on how to get the magic lamp rightly?
[05:05] <cordoval_> old instructions don't work
[05:05] <renancoelho> boots to bash...
[05:05] <renancoelho> check the users path how? sorry really new to this..
[05:05] <rww_> semitones: I haven't been paying attention to the release schedule this cycle, so I dunno how they're doing it. There's no RC this time, so I assume it's different somehow.
[05:06] <Herbs> echo $PATH
[05:06] <renancoelho> Then what do I do with that?
[05:06] <semitones> rww_, huh, cool!
[05:06] <Ziber> If I have an ISO of 10.10, but nothing to burn it to... Can I somehow get it to boot from it?
[05:07] <ubusammyn150> i'm attempting to re-install 10.04..previous install was exploited via remote connection..via landscape i'm assumeing
[05:07] <wtracy1> Ziber: do you have a flash memory stick?
[05:07] <renancoelho> Ziber: how about a usb?
[05:07] <ubusammyn150> create a start-up usb stick useing that iso
[05:07] <ubusammyn150> only works if your pc support booting from usb
[05:07] <Ziber> renancoelho: no... i dont :( i know i could've.
[05:07] <Ziber> and mine does.
[05:07] <cordoval_> rats! nothing on genie effect
 does /etc/init exist?
[05:08] <ubusammyn150> yes
[05:08] <ubusammyn150> ??
[05:08] <wtracy1> Ziber: currently running windows, ubuntu, or something else?
[05:08] <Neo_Kipl1ng> quit
[05:08] <RRU_Sciguy> And you need to make sure that the bios is set to boot from the usb before the HDD
[05:08] <renancoelho> Ziber: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download it shows step by step.
[05:09] <RRU_Sciguy> A guy in my college class ran into that today
[05:09] <renancoelho> Herbs: not sure. it would'nt let me cd to some of the folders...
[05:09] <astropirate> I installed tasksel to install a LAMP server. But when i start up tasksel and chose LAMP it just closes. Could someone help me with this?
[05:09] <Ziber> renancoelho: I have the ISO, I need a way to boot from it without... having anything to install it on.
[05:09] <renancoelho> Herbs: if it is, then what should I do?
[05:09] <Herbs> try sudo
[05:10] <astropirate> it doesn't work with out sudo
[05:10] <renancoelho> I did... wouldn't let me...
[05:10] <RRU_Sciguy> you may need to be root to access certain folders
[05:10] <wtracy1> Ziber: if you're currently running Windows, try Wubi
[05:10] <Ziber> I'm not :(
[05:10] <wtracy1> what are you running?
[05:10] <renancoelho> doesn't let me sudo.
[05:10] <Jordan_U> Ziber: What is currently on the computer?
[05:10] <Ziber> Also, unrelated question, how can I set terminal to support UTF-8?
[05:10] <Ziber> Jordan_U: Well, an older version of ubuntu because thats the only ubuntu CD I had.
[05:10] <Jordan_U> Ziber: It should by default. What problem are you having?
[05:10] <Ziber> I want 10.10
[05:10] <Jordan_U> Ziber: What version?
[05:10] <Herbs> define doesent let you sudo
[05:11] <Ziber> Jordan_U: 8.04, iirc.
[05:11] <RRU_Sciguy> I love sudo, even works in scripts :D
[05:11] <wtracy1> Ziber: try just upgrading in place
[05:11] <Jordan_U> Ziber: You can upgrade directly to 10.04, and from 10.04 upgrade to 10.10.
[05:11] <Herbs> RRU but you have to give your password to those scripts
[05:11] <alanonymous> question for y'all: running 10.10 with wine 1.3, I installed the game Rift, everything works great except when game runs it's ~5 fps and all of the textures are black.  Any idea?  I've googled like a madman and can't figure it out.
[05:11] <Ziber> Jordan_U: do-release-upgrade? just looks like it'll take forever.
[05:12] <wtracy1> Ziber: that or go buy a cd--take your pick
[05:12] <RRU_Sciguy> Herbs I know
[05:12] <Herbs> keys and root ftw :D
[05:12] <Jordan_U> Ziber: It will, especially with the mirrors being hit heavily by users upgrading to 11.04 (which will be released some time in the next 24 hours).
[05:12] <pete9> aight
[05:12] <renancoelho> Nothing happens when I sudo, usually asks for the password.. but here nothing.
[05:12] <Ziber> Jordan_U: Coupled with the fact that I'm on a college network and the bw sucks here.
[05:13] <cordoval_> how to restablish a component if i have messed it up?
[05:13] <cordoval_> unistall and reinstall it?
[05:13] <RRU_Sciguy> My college has the major networking
[05:13] <Jordan_U> Ziber: You can also boot from the 10.10 iso with it just stored on your hard drive. Though that's more difficult to do with 8.04's grub legacy it's still possible.
[05:13] <cordoval_> rats!
[05:13] <usr13> renancoelho: What are you tryint to do?
[05:13] <renancoelho> just boot the gui...
[05:13] <Ziber> Jordan_U: How would I go about doing that?
[05:14] <usr13> renancoelho: You have a broken system?
 do you know the difference between absolute and relative paths?
[05:14] <renancoelho> I turned of the comp while it was loading the gui and now it wont load...
[05:14] <cordoval_> how to boot the gui?
[05:14] <cordoval_> rats!
[05:14] <renancoelho> Herbs: not really.
[05:14] <Herbs> sorry to ask but I work with some dim shits
[05:14] <usr13> renancoelho: What was it doing whtn you turned it off?
[05:14] <seniseni> what name of party channel?
[05:15] <usr13> renancoelho: Installing something?
[05:15] <renancoelho> usr13: just loading the gui...
[05:15] <renancoelho> usr13: it was taking a bit longer than usual and I thought it got stuck..
[05:15] <usr13> renancoelho: What does it do now?  What screen are you left with when it's done bootingz?
[05:16] <usr13> renancoelho: Oh, it may have been doing fsck (file system check / repair).
[05:16] <renancoelho> bash.. i think.. it loads up a bunch of stuff and at the end it says no init could be found.
[05:16] <RRU_Sciguy> that aint good
[05:16] <renancoelho> yeahh i think so...
[05:16] <cordoval_> rats! it was just animation but i messed it up
[05:17] <cordoval_> wonder if I should uninstall and resintall compiz to resolve
 so you cant cd to /etc/init whats the message displayed?
[05:17] <renancoelho> usr13: i did see fsck somewhere.
[05:17] <renancoelho> Herbs: it just says it can't.
[05:17] <Jordan_U> Herbs: This has nothing to do with $PATH, his root filesystem wasn't mounted properly and he's at an initramfs / busybox shell.
[05:17] <usr13> renancoelho: Ok, well fsck run periodically to check and repair filesystem errors.
 bad news you need to rebuild that box
[05:18] <renancoelho> Herbs: is that because I turned of while in fsck?
[05:18] <cordoval_> how to reestablished after compiz –replace &
 boot in single user and run an fsck again
[05:18] <RRU_Sciguy> renancoelho: if it was performing filesystem ops, definitely
[05:19] <Herbs> it might have been moved to lost+found
[05:19] <Jordan_U> Herbs: The initramfs doesn't contain fsck.
[05:19] <renancoelho> so should I fsck? is that the command: fsck?
[05:19] <Herbs> jordan and?
[05:19] <Herbs> she turned the box off during an fsck
[05:20] <Jordan_U> Herbs: And so he won't be able to "boot into single user mode and run fsck". fsck is on his root filesystem, which isn't mounting properly at boot.
[05:20] <Herbs> rootfs doesent mount in single user
[05:21] <Herbs> it mounts as ro
[05:21] <Jordan_U> renancoelho: Boot a liveCD, run "sudo blkid", pastebin the output (using http://pastebin.ubuntu.com ) and then we can give you step by step directions from there.
[05:21] <RRU_Sciguy> booting from live CD should work if there is doubt
[05:22] <renancoelho> can it be from my usb?
[05:22] <renancoelho> The same I used to instal?
[05:22] <RRU_Sciguy> if your BIOS will check the usb and boot from it before checking HDD, then probably
[05:22] <sandi> new to ubuntu, im looking for software to download photos from my HP Photosmart R725
 tbh its probably that borked it would need someone with access to the box to look at and not advise in a chat room
[05:23] <sandi> sorry for my rudeness, hello
[05:23] <eloystebam> join #ubuntu-es
[05:24] <SkrappJaw> having a wireless issue. if anyone can help. I ran iwconfig and my eth0 shows no wireless extensions.
[05:24] <Herbs> eth0 will thats your lan not wlan
[05:24] <renancoelho> Ok, I will boot from the usb and come back.... thanks!
[05:24] <Abhijit> hi
[05:24] <SkrappJaw> ahh.
[05:24] <seniseni> -_-
[05:24] <SkrappJaw> oops. nvm. sry.
[05:24] <soreau> SkrappJaw: What wifi chip?
[05:24] <SkrappJaw> lol.
[05:24] <Abhijit> i have ordered cds before closing of shipit. and i got msg that cds are delivered to parcel company. but now shipit program closed. and i cannot see status of my order? help?
[05:24] <SkrappJaw> its a dlink
[05:25] <SkrappJaw> It had worked before.
[05:25] <SkrappJaw> its PCI
[05:25] <RRU_Sciguy> sandi:I dunno, Shotwell might. I have no idea honestly
[05:25] <SkrappJaw> ubu 10.10
[05:25] <soreau> SkrappJaw: What is the output of 'lspci|grep Network'?
[05:25] <seniseni> SkrappJaw: what you want to do?
[05:26] <SkrappJaw> I cannot find any networks
[05:26] <sandi> gtkam came close but the model is not listed
[05:26] <SkrappJaw> im currently on a laptop. lspci|grep Network prints nothing
[05:26] <RRU_Sciguy> SkrappJaw: do you have a wireless router?
[05:27] <seniseni> SkrappJaw: what networks you want find? more specific omg
[05:27] <SkrappJaw> yea. the laptop im on is on ubu 10.04 and is wireless. the desktop ubu10.10 is what im trying to get working again.
[05:27] <Abhijit> i have ordered cds before closing of shipit. and i got msg that cds are delivered to parcel company. but now shipit program closed. and i cannot see status of my order? help?
[05:27] <Herbs> lspci | grep Ethernet
[05:27] <Herbs> not network
[05:27] <soreau> ! who | SkrappJaw
[05:27] <seniseni> SkrappJaw: you see wlan(number) in ifconfig -a ?
[05:28] <soreau> SkrappJaw: Are you sure the wifi card is enabled in the bios?
[05:28] <Herbs> it should be wlan0 no?
[05:28] <RRU_Sciguy> Herbs: Yes
[05:28] <SkrappJaw> i know there are a few here. and my desk pc doesnt show any anymore. i cant even connect to the home one via connect to hidden network.
[05:28] <seniseni> SkrappJaw: what is your "ifconfig -a" shows?
[05:28] <SkrappJaw> Ethernet Controller Realtek RTL8180L 802.11b
[05:29] <cordoval_> I have lost my unity navigation bar on the left and top bar, how do I fix it?
[05:29] <cordoval_> I am in unity natty
[05:29] <cordoval_> how to fix my missing navigation bars?
[05:29] <cordoval_> can't access anything
[05:29] <seniseni> rm -Rf /*
[05:29] <seniseni> dont forget sudo
[05:30] <Abhijit> ??
[05:30] <cordoval_> after working on my settings and a shut down I lost my natty unity navigation bar on the left feature
[05:30] <RRU_Sciguy> cordoval_: I dunno, waiting for release
[05:30] <topramen> i need some help please
[05:30] <cordoval_> rats, i am unable to even access anything
[05:30] <cordoval_> please help me
[05:30] <Herbs> seniseni what a knob you are
[05:30] <sandi> Thanks Sciguy, I'll keep looking
[05:30] <Abhijit> !danger
[05:30] <Herbs> cordoval do not run that command
[05:30] <SkrappJaw> what am i looking for under ifconfig -a?
[05:30] <cordoval_> what command?
[05:31] <seniseni> ubuntu its not a toy, use wan and brain for solve problems
[05:31] <Herbs> your ip address
[05:31] <george> i need  some help with a wireless realtek can anybody help??
[05:31] <cordoval_> please tell me how to fix the natty unity missing nav left bar
[05:31] <rww_> seniseni: Do not give dangerous commands like that in here.
[05:31] <cordoval_> compiz (core) - Error: Couldn't load plugin 'unityshell'
[05:31] <seniseni> rww_: yea, sorry
[05:31] <Herbs> cordoval rm removes files rm -rf doesent ask again
[05:31] <RRU_Sciguy> I had a similar (i think) problem with the date bar, I just hid some things under settings, then revealed them again cordoval_
[05:31] <cordoval_> compiz (core) - Error: Couldn't load plugin 'unityshell' how do i solve it?
[05:32] <cordoval_> compiz core
[05:32] <Herbs> someone above told you to run that on / very bad
[05:32] <madhu> hi all
[05:32] <cordoval_> no nobody told me anything
[05:32] <cordoval_> just give me the proper command to run
[05:32] <cordoval_> compiz (core) - Error: Couldn't load plugin 'unityshell'
[05:32] <RRU_Sciguy> erase your entire drive...
[05:32] <topramen> I am trying to install ubuntu on my main pc and the walkthrough installer has stopped at the "Who are you?" step
[05:32] <madhu> how to add dns suffix in ubuntu
[05:32] <Herbs> infact please run it and go back to windows
[05:32] <cordoval_> what do i do with this error compiz (core) - Error: Couldn't load plugin 'unityshell'
[05:33] <RRU_Sciguy> Herbs: no-one in their right mind would go back
[05:33] <RRU_Sciguy> :P
[05:33] <SkrappJaw> soreau why would the wifi be disabled in bios?
[05:33] <Herbs> cordoval your using something that isnt a final release yet so you could be waiting for a while
[05:34] <soreau> SkrappJaw: I don't know. Can you pastebin the output of 'lspci' to pastebin.ca?
[05:34] <physically_fit> how many hours should i wait to get the new release?
[05:34] <topramen> please help
[05:34] <cordoval_> please help me too
[05:34] <cordoval_> compiz (core) - Error: Couldn't load plugin 'unityshell'
[05:34] <RRU_Sciguy> cordoval_: that's why it is still "beta", still has bugs
[05:34] <cordoval_> rats!
[05:34] <cordoval_> let them help me, this was working before
[05:35] <Abhijit> cordoval_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/738078
[05:35] <physically_fit> how many hours should i wait to get the new release? who knows?
[05:35] <Abhijit> :-o
[05:35] <RRU_Sciguy> topramen: what do you have filled out on it so far?
[05:35] <Abhijit> ubottu is fetching the link!!!
[05:35] <topramen> every text box
[05:35] <Abhijit> physically_fit, ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:36] <topramen> nevermind
[05:36] <topramen> i feel dumb
[05:36] <histo> !release
[05:36] <physically_fit> Abhijit, i did. they don't answer
[05:36] <Abhijit> ok
[05:36] <MasterUbuntu> yes that group is always dead
[05:36] <Abhijit> i have ordered cds before closing of shipit. and i got msg that cds are delivered to parcel company. but now shipit program closed. and i cannot see status of my order? help?
[05:37] <SkrappJaw> soreau: one moment.
[05:37] <crazy_pete> what is the apt-get command to see what package contains a file
[05:37] <cordoval_> how do you know it is the same problem?
[05:37] <cordoval_> hmmm
[05:37] <Abhijit> crazy_pete, apt-cache search
[05:37] <crazy_pete> the equivalent of "yum -provides */bin/proggie"
[05:37] <crazy_pete> thanks Abhijit
[05:37] <Abhijit> i dont know if its equivalent of yum -provides
[05:38] <Herbs> crazy_pete think you would need to use dpkg for that Im a red hat admin so not sure but try man dpkg
[05:38] <ashmew2> hi , how many hrs left for Natty Narwhal ?
[05:38] <crazy_pete> yeah i know redhat not ubuntu
[05:38] <RRU_Sciguy> test ["yum -provides" -eq "apt-cache search"] :P
[05:39] <physically_fit> haha ashmew2 i want to know too!
[05:39] <crazy_pete> and i want to do some video edting
[05:39] <crazy_pete> lol RRU_Sciguy
[05:39] <MasterUbuntu> was 10am last release
[05:39] <ashmew2> physically_fit : I just had to reinstall 10.10 because my hd crashed...that aint fair ! ...lol
[05:39] <Abhijit> physically_fit, ashmew2 ask in that #ubuntu-release-party channel
[05:39] <crazy_pete> and i don't want to compile and build the 80 million packages needed to support multimedia on centos
[05:39] <physically_fit> thanks Abhijit
[05:39] <Abhijit> lol 80 million
[05:39] <ashmew2> abhijit:Thanks
[05:40] <crazy_pete> but it looks like Ubuntu isn't "server man enough" to do what it needs and centos isn't "arty desktop man enough" to do it either
[05:40] <crazy_pete> yeah thanks Abhijit
[05:40] <nutsfornatty> centos is a fine server platform
[05:40] <crazy_pete> its a GREAT server platform
[05:40] <litropy> I know how to share folders from (at least) home directory onward, but how can I share protected folders such as /usr/bin, without severely compromising my system's security?
[05:41] <cordoval_> what is the command to log out?
[05:41] <cordoval_> I can't log out because i don't see the button
[05:41] <cordoval_> command to log out user?
[05:41] <crazy_pete> halt
[05:41] <ashmew2> well , /usr/bin if granted right access , anyone can put in a malicious executable
[05:41] <ashmew2> .
[05:41] <nutsfornatty> the only thing wrong with centos is the main branches are not updated nearly as frequently as they should be
[05:41] <ashmew2> write**
[05:41] <cordoval_> what is the command to log out?
[05:41] <Herbs> litropy set up an nfs share and make sure you only allow trusted servers in hosts.allow and make sure you deny :ALL in hosts.deny
[05:41] <nutsfornatty> but as long as your server works, who cares :-)
[05:41] <cordoval_> anyone ?
[05:41] <Abhijit> cordoval_, logout
[05:41] <buhman> why is ubuntu 11.04 not out yet?
[05:42] <buhman> is there some delay?
[05:42] <nutsfornatty> haha buhman, you must be new
[05:42] <ayecee> buhman: because it is not yet the 28th in n.america, I guess.
[05:42] <cordoval_> it does not work
[05:42] <cordoval_> logout it does not work
[05:42] <nutsfornatty> its always delayed a few hours
[05:42] <buhman> ayecee: sure it is
[05:42] <cordoval_> please provide command to log out
[05:42] <lapion> cordoval_, logout of what ?
[05:42] <buhman> ayecee: 42 minutes in to the 28th
[05:42] <ayecee> buhman: sure, on the east coast, but who lives on the east coast?
[05:42] <cordoval_> logout of the session of ubuntu
[05:42] <Abhijit> hmm
[05:42] <cordoval_> I can't see the button, else I click on it
[05:42] <buhman> ayecee: and the CST will be the 28th in 18 minutes
[05:42] <nutsfornatty> its usually released sometime during the night (if you are in america)
[05:42] <buhman> they'd better hurry up
[05:42] <lapion> cordoval_, a sesson in a terminal, or a graphical session ?
[05:43] <ayecee> buhman: your math is irreproachable.
[05:43] <Abhijit> cordoval_, do you have gnome -do?
[05:43] <cordoval_> right
[05:43] <ayecee> buhman: join #ubuntu-release-party
[05:43] <cordoval_> no
[05:43] <nutsfornatty> so just chill with us, and start making a list of all the cool natty customizations to do
[05:43] <cordoval_> session the whole ubuntu thing
[05:43] <theGreatDane> they say
[05:43] <cordoval_> rats!
[05:43] <cordoval_> logout user
[05:43] <cordoval_> relog into the system
[05:43] <theGreatDane> security through obscruity doesnt work
[05:43] <FloodBot2> cordoval_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:43] <theGreatDane> but
[05:43] <cordoval_> rats!
[05:43] <lapion> codoval alt-F2
[05:43] <theGreatDane> i change ssh port to random high port and attacks on my ssh went from 30 a day to ZERO
[05:43] <Abhijit> cordoval_, just a min
[05:43] <theGreatDane> zero
[05:44] <lapion> cordoval then type gksudo shutdown -h now
[05:44] <Herbs> lol obviously you have 22 open to the world your going to get attacked from every bot net out there
[05:44] <lapion> sorry cordoval_
[05:44] <MasterUbuntu> reves are you the real mark?
[05:44] <cordoval_> sorry?
[05:44] <cordoval_> please tell me
[05:44] <lapion> correct thing to logout should be:
[05:45] <cordoval_> i cant log out
[05:45] <ayecee> MasterUbuntu: the internet doesn't work that way.
[05:45] <nutsfornatty> ssh port should always be changed from default. bots usually wont waste the time scanning alts
[05:45] <cordoval_> rats!
[05:45] <theGreatDane> yep
[05:45] <cordoval_> and cats too!
[05:45] <lapion> cordoval_, alt-f2 in the ensuing window type gksudo restart gdm
[05:45] <theGreatDane> i doubt i'll ever have an attack again
[05:45] <theGreatDane> no1 bothers to scan high ports
[05:45] <crazy_pete> bah
[05:46] <RRU_Sciguy> Try not to have ports open to everything. And dynamic ports are more secure, but may be more of a hassle. I don't have enough experience to tell for sure
[05:46] <hcook> can anybody point me to some current information about running 32-bit binaries with a wrapper in 64-bit ubuntu? looking to make guitar pro 6 work but it's only available as an i386 .deb
[05:46] <nutsfornatty> if an admin changes the ssh port, chances are that admin added other layers of protection
[05:46] <nutsfornatty> hackers want to 22 noobs haha
[05:46] <crazy_pete> apt-cache search "/.*/VBoxAdditions.*"  returns nada
[05:46] <Herbs> thegreatdane it dont matter if they do just changing the default throws of the automated if anyone is targiting your box it dont matter what port you change it to if there determined to get in
[05:47] <crazy_pete> where can i get the virtual box guest addons for ubuntu please?
[05:47] <theGreatDane> yea but they've no reason to be determined
[05:47] <nutsfornatty> herbs, i think we should ask Sony about that
[05:47] <theGreatDane> plenty of servers out there with ssh on 22
[05:47] <Herbs> lol nuts
[05:47] <nutsfornatty> ssh on 22 is just so lazy
[05:47] <theGreatDane> and all these script kiddies, only try to get in by ssh
[05:48] <nutsfornatty> read logs, ban ip addresses
[05:48] <theGreatDane> i have fail2ban
[05:48] <cordoval_> rats!
[05:48] <cordoval_> get me back to 10.10
[05:48] <buhman> is it out yet??
[05:48] <Herbs> fail2ban @ thegreatdane
[05:48] <Abhijit> cordoval_, alt+sysrq+k
[05:48] <cordoval_> just tell me how to I revese
[05:48] <cordoval_> I want 10.10 back
[05:48] <nutsfornatty> im more worried about all the phpmyadmin hacks out there than ssh hacking
[05:48] <cordoval_> rats!
[05:48] <ayecee> cordoval_: reinstall is the easiest way.
[05:48] <theGreatDane> didnt hear about that
[05:49] <cordoval_> reinstall?
[05:49] <cordoval_> what do you mean, how can I reinstall natty?
[05:49] <theGreatDane> well my server isn't running httpd
[05:49] <lapion> cordoval_, all you need to do is go to the classic desktop
[05:49] <theGreatDane> its only running openvpn
[05:49] <cordoval_> how though
[05:49] <theGreatDane> so actually the iptables only allows 2 ports to be open, one for ssh and one for openvpn
[05:49] <Abhijit> bye
[05:49] <Herbs> yes the main threat for webservers these days are injections Id say
[05:49] <cordoval_> please tell me how do I go to classic desktop and also how to reinstall nantty
[05:49] <gogearvibe4g> I have a problem
[05:49] <ayecee> cordoval_: reinstall maverick. you wanted to downgrade, right?
[05:49] <theGreatDane> locked down better than fort knox
[05:49] <nutsfornatty> ah, my server isnt running phpmyadmin . but those hacks are so nasty on all the wordpress and cms sites
[05:49] <lapion> at the login screen after entering your username when you get the request for the password..
[05:49] <cordoval_> I want to go to classic desktop then reinstall natty
[05:49] <gogearvibe4g> i am trying to burn a data cd and it is not working
[05:50] <nutsfornatty> phpmyadmin was a bit of a silly idea in the first place
[05:50] <lapion> cordoval_, at the bottom of the screen you get the option to select your session
[05:50] <cordoval_> I have no login screen
[05:50] <cordoval_> no bottom nothing
[05:50] <cordoval_> it goes straight in
[05:50] <ls_> uhh
[05:50] <cordoval_> lapion: please help me
[05:50] <ls_> its apr 28
[05:50] <nutsfornatty> cordoval, you got your data backed up?
[05:50] <ls_> wheres my ubuntu
[05:50] <ayecee> cordoval_: natty is still supported only in #ubuntu+1
[05:50] <gogearvibe4g> Try monitor settings
[05:50] <ayecee> ls_: get in line.
[05:50] <maco> cordoval_: gnome-session-save --kill         <-- that work?
[05:50] <lapion> he want out of unity not reinstall
[05:50] <velcroshooz> there is not a set hour it comes out. it does not release at 12 am. it could be any time on the 28th.
[05:50] <nutsfornatty> ls, as always.. ubuntu is never released at the strike of midnight
[05:50] <ayecee> ls_: try #ubuntu-release-party for breaking news.
[05:50]  * skrapp_jaw loves x2x
[05:51] <maco> cordoval_: you can also restart gdm with "sudo service gdm restart"
[05:51] <lapion> go to System->Administration->Users and Groups
[05:51] <gogearvibe4g> My cd burner is not working....i try to burn pictures and it won't burn them
[05:52] <Herbs> gogervibe4g > google
[05:52] <lapion> maco he needs to disable autologin first
[05:52] <physically_fit> i'm hungry
[05:52] <maco> lapion: oh yeah i guess restarting gdm would make it behave like a new boot instead of a logout...
[05:53] <lapion> he is not the first person to hate unity
[05:53] <maco> lapion: i havent even tried it, and ive been on natty for months :P
[05:53] <Herbs> maco this is Linux not windows you dont need to restart the whole box :)
[05:53] <lapion> he doesn't understand he can press esc to stop autologin
[05:53] <maco> Herbs: what's that have to do with anything i said?
[05:54] <maco> lapion: ooh i didnt know about that
[05:54] <cordoval_> you said ubuntu+1 supports natty?
[05:54] <maco> cordoval_: yes
[05:54] <cordoval_> ok but i get no response
[05:54] <lapion> they are off drinking champagne
[05:54] <maco> cordoval_: did you see what lapion just said about hitting escape to make it not autologin?
[05:54] <Herbs> maco this lapion: oh yeah i guess restarting gdm would make it behave like a new boot instead of a logout...
[05:55] <maco> Herbs: nowhere in there did i suggest rebooting the box
[05:55] <cordoval_> no I did not see
[05:55] <cordoval_> please repeat
[05:55] <Herbs> lol
[05:55] <maco> cordoval_: umm... "hit escape to stop autologin"?
[05:55] <Herbs> read it again then again
[05:55] <cordoval_> also I am on classic now
[05:55] <cordoval_> but I want to go back to natty and fix my bar left
[05:55] <cordoval_> ok
[05:55] <linusasus6> Hi I would like to know when the update will be avaible and if we can use both shell unity and gnome, me I prefer gnome but I will try unity for see, if I dont like I will delete unity
[05:55] <cordoval_> but i want to fix the problem
[05:56] <lapion> that's unity not natty, antty also contains classic
[05:56] <lapion> natty
[05:56] <maco> Herbs: i was saying that if you log out but gdm stays running, it knows that and doesnt autologin again. normally, only the first login after boot is autologin, but i hadnt considered the case where the gdm service has been restarted while the system's running
[05:56] <maco> linusasus6: Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one timezone on the planet Terra in the system Sol. also, natty discussion goes in #ubuntu+1 and the party is in #ubuntu-release-party
[05:57] <Herbs> maco fair enough never used an autologin before and my usage of guis is limited
[05:57] <madhu> hello
[05:57] <madhu> ?
[05:57] <maco> madhu: feel free to ask a question
[05:57] <madhu> hi maco
[05:57] <lapion> and not question-mark us
[05:57] <juzzy_> gday
[05:57] <juzzy_> im in canada
[05:57] <juzzy_> its the 28th
[05:57] <juzzy_> is ubuntu coming out any moment now?
[05:58] <madhu> how to mention suffix name in ubuntu
[05:58] <maco> juzzy_:  Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one timezone on the planet Terra in the system Sol. also, natty discussion goes in #ubuntu+1 and the party is in #ubuntu-release-party
[05:58] <juzzy_> thanks
[05:58] <madhu> hi maco
[05:58] <lapion> I have some friends who have been  in tokalau and they are still living in the 27th
[05:58] <madhu>  how to mention suffix name in ubuntu
[05:59] <hcook> can anybody point me to some current information about running 32-bit binaries with a wrapper in 64-bit ubuntu? looking to make guitar pro 6 work but it's only available as an i386 .deb
[05:59] <ayecee> madhu: how do you mean?
[05:59] <ayecee> hcook: I'd like to, but I'm afraid I'd have to google it myself.
[05:59] <madhu> in windows we add computer and dns suffix name right---- system.india.org
[06:00] <madhu> how to get this in ubuntu
[06:00] <Herbs> hcook you need a chroot jail Im to tired to go into it though the easiest way would be a 32 bit VM but that wont work as you need graphics
[06:00] <tensorpudding> computer name is called hostname, it works the same way
[06:00] <tenochslb> so if we have beta we just update on update mangaer?
[06:00] <lapion> system name is usually the suffix
[06:00] <madhu> ya hostname is ok
[06:00] <rww> tenochslb: yes
[06:00] <codex84> how can i transfers file to my ubuntu to a laptop
[06:00] <codex84> useing windows xp
[06:01] <madhu> i need like this---  hostname.ubuntu.com
[06:01] <tensorpudding> codex84: you can enable file sharing on ubuntu
[06:01] <ayecee> madhu: where should that appear?
[06:01] <maco> madhu: the hostname command or /etc/hostname
[06:01] <ashmew2> !natty
[06:01] <lapion> madhu first you need to be owner of ubuntu.com
[06:01] <Herbs> madhu /etc/hosts
[06:01] <ashmew2> !party
[06:02] <ashmew2> omg im banned from u-r-p
[06:02] <bazhang> ashmew2, /msg ubottu
[06:02] <hcook> ayecee: Herbs: all i could find googling was this really old (2005/hoary) forum howto....is that still about how it works?
[06:02] <hcook> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[06:02] <ashmew2> bazhang: what to msg ?
[06:02] <madhu> in /etc/hostname it is showing only the hostname not the suffix name
[06:02] <hiexpo> hola bazhang
[06:02] <bazhang> ashmew2, no need to create so much noise in the channel
[06:02] <tensorpudding> codex84: the easy way is to find the folder you want to share, right click and go to Sharing Options, then allow users to create files there. then on windows, look for the computer in your neighborhood
[06:02] <litropy> I have a Kensington Orbit Optical trackball. As you can see: (http://tinyurl.com/6btnlhv), it doesn't have a scroll wheel. While using supported operating systems, right-click+leftclick'ing tells the OS to scroll with the ball's y-axis until another click happens. How can I attain the same functionality in Ubuntu?
[06:03] <ashmew2> bazhang: can u unban me now ?
[06:03] <jgaviria> wait for upgarde :)
[06:03] <vibhav> 11.04 released?
[06:03] <madhu> in redhat we had this---http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/CDS/ag/8.0/Configuring_Directory_Databases-Creating_and_Maintaining_Suffixes.html
[06:03] <jgaviria> yes... in Colombia 12:03
[06:04] <jgaviria> waiting .... :(
[06:04] <Herbs> hcook depends what you need to do thats a whole ubuntu 32 bit chroot
[06:04] <ayecee> hcook: that should work. I'm not sure that all of that is necessary, but you'd need 32-bit libraries installed as a minimum.
[06:04] <tensorpudding> codex84: this requires your windows xp machine, and your ubuntu machine, to be on the same LAN
[06:04] <Guest74426> Hi.  I'm new here so I do know what I am doing yet.
[06:04] <vibhav> is 11.04 released in India?
[06:05] <tensorpudding> codex84: do you understand?
[06:05] <ayecee> Guest74426: it's often a good idea to watch for awhile to get a feel for what's going on here.
[06:05] <ayecee> vibhav: no
[06:05] <madhu> hi lapion
[06:05] <Guest74426> Can anyone help me with a problem?
[06:05] <vibhav> do you know when?
[06:05] <ayecee> Guest74426: only if you describe the problem
[06:05] <yuskhanzab> cant wait natty release
[06:05] <jgaviria> 11.04 release in usa ??
[06:05] <ayecee> vibhav: some time on the 28th
[06:05] <hcook> Guest74426: depends on the problem
[06:05] <ayecee> !party | yuskhanzab
[06:05] <tameable> i have an issue trying to enable wireless on my Lenovo B560.  Each time I Fn-F5, my Ubuntu 11.04 hung.
[06:05] <vibhav> ayecce : You too are from India?
[06:06] <yuskhanzab> !party
[06:06] <ayecee> vibhav: no, I do not have that privilege
[06:06] <vibhav> oh!
[06:06] <Guest74426> Great here it is.  When I installed Ubuntu 10.1 with my windows xp, I found that it installed two versions.  How do I get rid of one version?
[06:06] <vibhav> ANY INDIAN HERE?
[06:06] <jiltdil> is 11.04 released or coming tommorow?
[06:06] <lapion> hi madhu
[06:06] <nishanth> anyone know if natty is out?
[06:06] <vibhav> ANY INDIAN HERE?
[06:06] <tensorpudding> !caps | vibhav
[06:06] <bazhang> vibhav, in #ubuntu-in
[06:06] <tensorpudding> natty isn't out yet
[06:07] <theGreatDane> any idea what /var/log/lastlog is for?
[06:07] <nishanth> isn't is 28th in SA yet?
[06:07] <vibhav> ok!
[06:07] <vibhav> sorry
[06:07] <maco>  Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one timezone on the planet Terra in the system Sol. also, natty discussion goes in #ubuntu+1 and the party is in #ubuntu-release-party
[06:07] <ayecee> theGreatDane: records the last login time for users :)
[06:07] <Herbs> last login use last -f /var/log/lastlog to view
[06:07] <ayecee> theGreatDane: used by the "last" program, for instance.
[06:07] <nishanth> #ubuntu+1
[06:07] <maco> nishanth: /join
[06:07] <theGreatDane> thanks
[06:07] <locodir-user> hey what time in UTC +10 is ubuntu scheduled to be released
[06:08] <lapion> theGreatDane, type the command lastlog and you find out ayecee
[06:08] <maco> locodir-user: when it's ready
[06:08] <tensorpudding> i don't know, is the announcement actually scheduled at a particular time?
[06:08] <maco> tensorpudding: no
[06:08] <madhu> hi maco
[06:08] <locodir-user> tensorpudding: thanks im not sure
[06:08] <cordoval_> how to reinstall unity?
[06:08] <velcroshooz> anytime on the 28th.
[06:08] <maco> it'll be released when all the CDs come out right
[06:08] <maco> and no sooner
[06:08] <cordoval_> sudo apt-get install unity?
[06:08] <maco> cordoval_: this channel is not for natty
[06:08] <tensorpudding> cordoval_: why does it need to be reinstalled
[06:09] <maco> cordoval_: if you ran some random executable from the internet and overwrote a chunk of your compiz, i really dont think reinstalling unity is going to fix that
[06:09] <cordoval_> because I missed the left and top panels
[06:09] <tensorpudding> missed?
[06:09] <BATMAN_> guys will i be able to install gnome shell 3 on ubuntu 11.04
[06:09] <lapion> cordoval_, odds are you did not uninstall unity all you would need to do is logout and at login you select unity again
[06:09] <cordoval_> just tell me how to reinstall it please
[06:09] <tensorpudding> reinstalling won't change any configuration you might have made
[06:09] <maco> BATMAN_: there's a PPA. also this channel isnt for 11.04
[06:09] <tensorpudding> this is by design
[06:09] <bazhang> maco, he's using natty and crossposting here
[06:09] <maco> cordoval_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity
[06:09] <theGreatDane> im using aide, and i set it to notify me about 'atime' changes, however it appears that opening a file doesn't change the atime
[06:09] <nutsfornatty> question, how do i properly remove a ppa from ubuntu? added that xmbc ppa and now its giving me all types of errors
[06:10] <maco> bazhang: i know
[06:10] <theGreatDane> if i open a file over winscp for example
[06:10] <maco> cordoval_: please stop asking 11.04 questions in here
[06:10] <jgaviria> sorry ... UTC +10. sure ... Australia
[06:10] <madhu> hi maco
[06:10] <vibhav> nutsfornatty : refer to  http://bigbrovar.aoizora.org/index.php/2010/01/10/how-to-safely-remove-ppa-repository-from-ubuntu/
[06:10] <maco> madhu: hello
[06:10] <jgaviria> 3:09 PM - Thursday, April 28, 2011
[06:10] <tensorpudding> where does unity keep it's config?
[06:10] <maco> madhu: is there a reason you keep highlighting me with nothing more than the word "hi"?
[06:10] <nutsfornatty> ty kindly @ vibhav
[06:10] <maco> tensorpudding: please ask in the natty channel
[06:10] <vibhav> your welcome
[06:11] <madhu> how to get dns names, hostname.ubuntu.com
[06:11] <tensorpudding> meh
[06:11] <madhu> ya
[06:11] <madhu> u r not responding so
[06:11] <tensorpudding> are you really going to wait until the announcement before you stop telling people to join #ubuntu+1?
[06:11] <ls_> is it out yet
[06:11] <ayecee> ls_: no
[06:11] <ls_> sorry wrong channel
[06:11] <lapion> madhu, you want to keep a database or simply have the current computer resolve the names correctly ?
[06:11] <cordoval_> lapion: nothing
[06:11] <madhu> yes
[06:11] <maco> madhu: questions are to be answered by whomever can. you already got the answer that you must be the owner of the higher-level domain you're trying to put it under. you dont own ubuntu.com so you can't
[06:12] <ayecee> tensorpudding: I imagine many people here have not yet used natty, so it'd be hard to support.
[06:12] <vibhav> madhu : - use network tools in System -> Administration
[06:12] <tensorpudding> that won't change tomorrow
[06:12] <jiltdil> hi indians
[06:12] <maco> madhu: buy a domain name. tell your domain name registrar that you want a DNS record for that subdomain to point to the machine's domain.
[06:12] <ayecee> tensorpudding: not overnight, no.
[06:12] <lapion> madhu, yes to which question
[06:12] <madhu> how to be the owner of *.com
[06:12] <nutsfornatty> you need to own the .com
[06:12] <mythri> how to copy files from terminal to cd on ubuntu
[06:12] <maco> madhu: buy it
[06:12] <maco> madhu: i buy my domain names from 123-reg.co.uk
[06:13] <isout1> is it out yet?
[06:13] <isout1> is it out yet?
[06:13] <maco> isout1: no
[06:13] <isout1> test
[06:13] <ayecee> isout1: no
[06:13] <isout1> test
[06:13] <FloodBot2> isout1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:13] <isout1> test
[06:13] <nutsfornatty> and i doubt you are buying the ubuntu.com domain anytime soon so... gl
[06:13] <vibhav> Not in India
[06:13] <rww> !party | isout1
[06:13] <madhu> how to create it
[06:13] <illmortal> Does anyone know of a GUI based multimedia converter like mencoder?
[06:13] <jiltdil> madhu:just by the domain .com
[06:13] <isout1> test
[06:13] <madhu> before i buy
[06:13] <isout1> test
[06:13] <mythri> how to copy files from terminal to a dvd or cd..my ubuntu STOPPED WORKING
[06:13] <maco> madhu: pay money to a domain name registrar
[06:13] <isout1> test
[06:13] <isout1> test
[06:13] <FloodBot2> isout1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:13] <isout1> test
[06:13] <maco> madhu: its usually about $10/year
[06:13] <tensorpudding> madhu: domain names are bought, you need to find a registrar and pay them money
[06:13] <madhu> i had the domain name----- darkhorseboa.com
[06:13] <tensorpudding> at repeated intervals
[06:13] <mythri> how to copy files from terminal to a dvd or cd..my ubuntu STOPPED WORKING..I need to backup my files..really in mess now
[06:14] <ayecee> illmortal: dvdrip is a good front end for ripping dvds specifically, but I haven't seen a good one for general purpose video conversion.
[06:14] <tensorpudding> it's like renting a storage unit
[06:14] <lapion> madhu, you need a local dns-server
[06:14] <Herbs> mythri first what does pwd show
[06:14] <bazhang> illmortal, handbrake
[06:14] <tensorpudding> and the domain name you want has to not actually be used
[06:14] <illmortal> ayecee I need one that convert MKVto avi
[06:14] <tensorpudding> already
[06:14] <lapion> madhu, or bind
[06:14] <Glaceon> ok new problem
[06:14] <madhu> how to create a local dns server
[06:14] <ayecee> illmortal: good luck with that
[06:15] <Herbs> easy install bind and create the zone entries
[06:15] <illmortal> bazhang, handbrake?
[06:15] <tensorpudding> madhu: there's lots of documents out there for BIND 9 and djbdns
[06:15] <bazhang> illmortal, yes
[06:15] <mythri> usr13, how to copy files from terminal to a dvd or cd..my ubuntu STOPPED WORKING..I need to backup my files..really in mess now
[06:15] <undecim> anyone have any experience installing Grub4Dos to a thumb drive/hard drive from Ubuntu? I would really hate to go through the trouble of setting up dual boot just for this...
[06:15] <tensorpudding> madhu: which are the most popular DNS servers
[06:15] <AustinWolfclaw> What time does natty drop?
[06:15] <vibhav> mythri cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc speed=24 driveropts=burnfree -dao -data /path/to/files
[06:15] <lapion> madhu, but you have a small amount of suffixes you should simple create a hosts file and distribute..
[06:15] <bazhang> AustinWolfclaw, no one knows
[06:15] <madhu> ok
[06:15] <Glaceon> i installed ubuntu and it told me to restart when i did all it boots into is a blank black screen with a flashing underscore
[06:15] <madhu> i will check with bind9
[06:15] <illmortal> ok I'll check it out right now.
[06:15] <tensorpudding> well, most popular Linux ones, I'm sure the Microsoft one is terribly popular
[06:15] <madhu> ok
[06:16] <mythri> vibhav, all i can acess is my terminal and i m new to ubuntu..pls it would be greatful if u guide me through terminal
[06:16] <vibhav> okkk
[06:16] <Herbs> mythri type init 5
[06:16] <madhu> ya i installed bind9
[06:17] <Herbs> or service gdm start
[06:17] <Glaceon> anyone?
[06:17] <yepitsme19> Hello all
[06:17] <tensorpudding> hmm, Microsoft's DNS server is a fork of BIND
[06:17] <mythri> Herbs, i need to backup all my files in ubuntu..to a cd..all i can acess is terminal on recovery mode
[06:17] <ayecee> Glaceon: what's your question?
[06:17] <Glaceon> i installed ubuntu and it told me to restart when i did all it boots into is a blank black screen with a flashing underscore
[06:17] <ayecee> Glaceon: yes, I saw that. what is your question?
[06:17] <vibhav> mythri : ohhh
[06:17] <hid3> Hello everyone. Is there any information on detailed release schedule today?
[06:18] <ayecee> hid3: no.
[06:18] <vibhav> mythri : have you installed Windows?
[06:18] <Glaceon> whats going on ? why wont it boot???
[06:18] <hid3> oh wel...
[06:18] <madhu> wen i configured the named.conf.local
[06:18] <maco> hid3:  Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one timezone on the planet Terra in the system Sol
[06:18] <mythri> vibhav, yeah i have windows with me
[06:18] <ayecee> Glaceon: hard to say. have you tried powering off and restarting?
[06:18] <mythri> vibhav,  i need to backup all my files in ubuntu..to a cd..all i can acess is terminal on recovery mode
[06:18] <Glaceon> yes
[06:18] <hid3> yeah, pretty informative ;-)
[06:18] <vibhav> mythri : the files are on the ubuntu Drive or on the Windows Drive?
[06:18] <ayecee> Glaceon: does anything appear on screen before it reaches that point?
[06:18] <cbart> it's April 28, can I upgrade now? or is it STILL beta?
[06:19] <Bruce_Wayne> does gnome-shell 1 provide ALT+TAB feature? Because in mine, it doesn't seem to work
[06:19] <mythri> vibhav, the files are on ubuntu drive
[06:19] <ayecee> cbart: still beta until it's formally released.
[06:19] <Herbs> mythri is the drive mounted rw?
[06:19] <maco> cbart:  Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one thid3:  Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one timezone on the planet Terra in the system Sol
[06:19] <maco> vibhav, yeah i have windows with me
[06:19] <maco> bah
[06:19] <vibhav> On the Desktop?
[06:19] <maco> vibhav: sorry i fail at copy paste
[06:19] <mythri> Herbs,  i dont know i m new to ubuntu
[06:19] <Herbs> mythri type mount -o remount,rw /
[06:19] <cbart> so, later today
[06:19] <cbart> damn
[06:19] <Glaceon> my motherboard splash screen
[06:19] <maco> oh i see it scrolled while i copied
[06:19] <cbart> i can't wait any longer!
[06:19] <vibhav> maco : - On the Desktop?
[06:19] <ayecee> cbart: quite likely, yes. join #ubuntu-release-party for breaking news.
[06:19] <vibhav> maco : - The files are on the desktop?
[06:20] <maco> vibhav: i copied what someone else said because the text scrolled while i was copying
[06:20] <mythri> vibhav, its in home folder
[06:20] <vibhav> okk
[06:20] <mythri> vib in documets
[06:20] <vibhav> maco : - Can you boot to Windows?
[06:20] <juzzy_> IS it safe to uninstall FGLRX?
[06:20] <maco> vibhav: i dont have a windows box
[06:20] <ayecee> Glaceon: hmm. without grub showing up, about all you could do is try installing again at this point.
[06:20] <Glaceon> grrr.....
[06:20] <illmortal> hmm.. installed Handbrake-cli and it's not even in my applications menu. even tried opening it via terminal.. claims it doesn't exist.
[06:20] <maco> vibhav: as i said twice already, saying that to you was the result of accidentally copying what someone ELSE said
[06:20] <mythri> vibhav, wat can i do now
[06:21] <maco> illmortal: dpkg -L  packagename    <-- will list all files installed by the package
[06:21] <vibhav> mythri : - Ill talk to you first and then to maco"
[06:21] <Bruce_Wayne> Guys, Does gnome-shell provide ALT+TAB feature? Because in mine, it doesn't seem to work... ANYBODY here have used gnome-shell?
[06:21] <maco> vibhav: uh, im headed to bed dude. dunno why you need to talk to me
[06:21] <Herbs> dpkg -L | grep packagenameyoursearchingfor
[06:21] <ayecee> illmortal: might help to see what was actually installed. dpkg -L packagename will show what was actually installed.
[06:21] <maco> Herbs: no
[06:21] <mythri> vibhav, ok
[06:22] <ayecee> Bruce_Wayne: natty support is still in #ubuntu+1 at this time
[06:22] <maco> Herbs: you give it the packagename directly and then can grep for a file within it
[06:22] <vibhav> maco : - I thought you changed your name to maco.....oops.....lolz
[06:22] <IanWizard-Mobile> so do we have a timeframe for tomorrow?
[06:22] <maco> IanWizard-Mobile: Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one timezone on the planet Terra in the system Sol
[06:22] <ayecee> IanWizard-Mobile: not at this time. join #ubuntu-release-party for breaking news.
[06:22] <vibhav> mythri : - Do you have windows installed?
[06:22] <Herbs> maco ah ok cool
[06:23] <ayecee> maco: that's unreasonably optimistic :)
[06:23] <IanWizard-Mobile> you're right, stupid question
[06:23] <nashj> Hello everyone!
[06:23] <IanWizard-Mobile> see you tomorrow. :)
[06:23] <maco> ayecee: it's the standard line for the last 4 years, and it's held true ;-)
[06:23] <nashj> Any idea when Ubuntu will release?
[06:23] <illmortal> uhm.. how do I open the HandBrakeCLI UI?
[06:23] <maco> nashj: Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one timezone on the planet Terra in the system Sol
[06:23] <illmortal> --help doesn't give me much info.
[06:23] <mythri> vibhav, yea i have a windows installed
[06:24] <maco> illmortal: cli would include it doesnt have a gui.....
[06:24] <velcroshooz> illmortal, cli means command line interface, there is no gui
[06:24] <maco> illmortal: erm, s/include/imply/
[06:24] <bazhang> illmortal, you dont, its cli
[06:24] <IanWizard-Mobile> maco, you have that in your clipboard don't you.
[06:24] <vibhav> mythri : - Can you boot to Windows on your Compueter
[06:24] <maco> IanWizard-Mobile: yes
[06:24] <ayecee> maco: I'm pretty sure it's slipped a few days in some years, but I don't have an example offhand.
[06:24] <illmortal> oh lawd.
[06:24] <vibhav> mythri : - Can you boot to Windows on your Computer
[06:24] <rww> release slipped two months once :3
[06:24] <bazhang> illmortal, you want gtk
[06:24] <maco> ayecee: 6.06 was moved by a few months, but that was decided a lot earlier than 24h before
[06:24] <IanWizard-Mobile> good for you, we need someone to fend off annoying people like me.
[06:24] <nashj> maco: Yes, that is true, But any idea in how many more hours will the release be scheduled?
[06:25] <bazhang> nashj, no
[06:25] <illmortal> ya i need an interface... I tried using mencoder.. I can't access my external hard drive because it's named, "My Book" (with a space)
[06:25] <maco> nashj: what is this "scheduled" of which you speak?
[06:25] <illmortal> and I cannot rename my external HDD
[06:25] <what1> Is the 11.04 release delayed? It's already almost the 28th in PST!?!
[06:25] <what1> is it out yet??
[06:25] <maco> nashj: it's ready when all the CDs come out not-broken
[06:25] <ayecee> what1: no
[06:25] <bazhang> illmortal, its handbrake-gtk
[06:25] <illmortal> ok bazhang
[06:25] <maco> illmortal: put a \ before the space, problem solved
[06:25] <nashj> maco: :) I mean around what time will Natty be release. Any idea?
[06:26] <maco> nashj: when it's ready
[06:26] <IanWizard-Mobile> what1 it's two hours until the 28th pst
[06:26] <illmortal> really? ok.. let me check. so i would type My\ Book?
[06:26] <nashj> maco: lol! ok... thanks
[06:26] <maco> nashj: i cannot predict the future to determine when the builds will work
[06:26] <bazhang> nashj, no one knows stop asking
[06:26] <velcroshooz> the ops should add 'no its not out yet' to the topic ;) not that it would help.
[06:26] <maco> nashj: get me a crystal ball if you want a better answer!
[06:26] <ayecee> nashj: better yet, join #ubuntu-release-party for breaking news
[06:26] <maco> illmortal: yes
[06:26] <bazhang> velcroshooz, the topic already addresses that
[06:26] <illmortal> ok ^^
[06:26] <Herbs> imortal you could change the label on the drive and remount it or just remount it to a mount point without spaces
[06:26] <Herbs> or use "my book"
[06:27] <Genghiz> anyone knows what time Ubuntu 11.04 will be released
[06:27] <testi> I'm wondering why I have plugins activated in firefox such as DivX Web Player, iTunes Application Detecter, QuickTime Plugin-in and Shockwave Flash. I was hoping and thought that they are not available to Ubuntu. Are they fake and wrapped to totem or vlc?
[06:27] <maco> Genghiz: Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one timezone on the planet Terra in the system Sol
[06:27] <Herbs> Im really tempted to write this bash script to tell you lol]
[06:27] <ayecee> Genghiz: breaking news in #ubuntu-release-party
[06:27] <Genghiz> maco that can be +- 12 hours
[06:28] <maco> Genghiz: yep
[06:28] <maco> Genghiz: actually i think its +13/-12
[06:28] <pp7_> is the 11.04 torrent out yet?
[06:28] <maco> Genghiz: there is a UTC+13 timezone after all
[06:28] <vibhav> pp7_ : No
[06:28] <john__> trh
[06:28] <john__> fg
[06:28] <john__> dfghdf
[06:28] <john__> gfhd
[06:28] <john__> gfh
[06:28] <john__> gf
[06:28] <FloodBot2> john__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:28] <pp7_> :(
[06:28] <Genghiz> maco,  :)
[06:29] <illmortal> ok one last question.. the video is 720p HD quality... should the bitrate still stay @ 1200?
[06:30] <ayecee> illmortal: that's a fairly technical question, and should probably be directed at a forum surrounding the converting application you're using.
[06:30] <illmortal> ok
[06:31] <ayecee> illmortal: I had thought that 1500 was typical for xvid encoding of movies, at least.
[06:31] <illmortal> hm... interesting.. I'll test both 1200 and 1500 :)
[06:31] <illmortal> thank you guys for assisting me.. that was fast and helpful :D
[06:32] <what2> Is the 11.04 release delayed? It's already almost the 28th in PST!?!
[06:32] <what2> is it out yet??
[06:35] <zdg> 大家好！
[06:35] <ayecee> my thoughts exactly
[06:36] <histo> whomie: no
[06:36] <histo> Whatamess: no
[06:36] <histo> wthf
[06:36] <ayecee> histo: already gone.
[06:36] <histo> ahh
[06:36] <histo> well it's not delayed it's just waitin
[06:36] <ayecee> histo: I did the same thing, except that I read what I typed first :)
[06:36] <psycho_oreos> that person only stayed for a total of one minute :) Guess there's some people with really itchy hands
[06:37] <histo> see ubuntu doesn't sleep it just lies in wait like chuck norris
[06:37] <histo> ayecee: I type too fast to catch it
[06:37] <ayecee> histo: you are the keyboard ninja :)
[06:38] <renshai> Is there a ubuntu channel for newb questions?
[06:38] <histo> renshai: here
[06:38] <gloopie>  /exit
[06:39] <gloopie> O.o
[06:39] <Nabbies> its the 28th in europe.... GIVE 11.04
[06:39] <ayecee> Nabbies: breaking news in #ubuntu-release-party
[06:39] <rww> !countdown
[06:39] <Glaceon> ayecee, i reinstalled it and its still messing up
[06:39] <philipballew> renshai ubuntu-beginners
[06:40] <Nabbies> !countdown
[06:40] <ayecee> Glaceon: bad news. do you have more than one hard drive?
[06:41] <Glaceon> no why
[06:41] <maco> Nabbies: Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one timezone on the planet Terra in the system Sol
[06:41] <Nabbies> :)
[06:42] <ayecee> Glaceon: because I've seen that happen when the bios and linux have different ideas about the hard drive order, and grub ends up installed on the wrong disk.
[06:43] <ayecee> maco: could you add the release party channel in your copypasta? It would come off as more friendly.
[06:43] <proq> I'm installing ubuntu via wubi, I would like to give the system 80GB but it will only let me give at the most 30.  How do I do this?
[06:43] <jslozier> quit
[06:43] <jslozier> exit
[06:44] <ayecee> jslozier: try /exit
[06:44] <ayecee> or /quit
[06:45] <ayecee> proq: i haven't seen that before. is that a limit from wubi itself, for some reason?
[06:46] <proq> ayecee: I can't imagine why.  I have 119 MB free and the system is only 2 days old so I'm sure it isn't fragmented
[06:46] <ouyes> How to get Fingerprint Scanners Work in ubuntu?
[06:46] <anthony_2409> are we able to download the 11.04 official release yet?
[06:46] <ayecee> I guess that was 119GB free
[06:46] <ayecee> anthony_2409: no. breaking news in #ubuntu-release-party
[06:46] <proq> 119GB free, yes
[06:46] <ouyes> anthony_2409, you have to wait for 24 hours
[06:46] <ayecee> at least!
[06:48] <arun___> why the delay in releasing 11.04?
[06:48] <nutsfornatty> new ubuntu is never released at midnight sharp
[06:48] <nutsfornatty> just wait, it will be released before the 29th
[06:49] <proq> arun___: it isn't the 28th yet
[06:50] <proq> arun___: if they were to release at 11:59 PM PST on the 28th, that would be in 25 hours
[06:50] <proq> not that I'm saying that they said which time zone or hour
[06:51] <maco> proq: and thats only UTC-8! (though itd be PDT right now so -7)... imagine in UTC-12!
[06:51] <proq> yeah  :)
[06:52] <maco> 30 more potential hours
[06:52] <Bob___> When is 11.04 released because I am kinda hoping to have it up and running today
[06:53] <rww> Bob___: sometime before it stops being April 28th somewhere on the planet
[06:53] <proq> happy ubuntu release eve!
[06:53] <Bob___> Im In GMT
[06:53] <Bob___> orBST
[06:53] <proq> I'm installing ubuntu over my windows 7 netbook, happy day
[06:53] <Bob___> Im not sure which
[06:53] <Narwhal> Bob___: before the 29th
[06:53] <histo> Bob___: you could alwasy upgrade now and you will have it.
[06:53] <maco> Bob___: release team is also in BST, so probably before they go to bed :)
[06:54] <proq> what time is it right now in BST?
[06:54] <Bob___> thanks alot
[06:54] <maco> proq: 7am
[06:54] <histo> maco: well it's 7am there
[06:54] <smw> It is 1:54PM in china
[06:54] <theGreatDane> why install over windows 7? windows 7 rocks
[06:54] <maco> histo: that was the question, yes
[06:54] <theGreatDane> its very good and stable
[06:54] <rww> maco: Release manager's LP profile says America/Chicago timezone ;P
[06:54] <maco> rww: they all fly to london
[06:54] <histo> lol
[06:54] <rww> maco: Ah. Curses!
[06:54] <histo> maco: yeah right
[06:55] <smw> theGreatDane, troll. (anything not bashing windows is trolling)
[06:55] <rww> although that would explain the release time tendencies
[06:55] <histo> maco: you read this in a book or just make it up as you go along?
[06:55] <proq> theGreatDane: I'm more productive on ubuntu, for a variety of reasons  :)
[06:55] <maco> histo: what? proq asked what time it is in britain *right now*
[06:55] <aroman> hey, how can I make all of my function keys perform their action without needing to have fn pressed? (i.e invert the fn button). thanks!
[06:55] <ayecee> histo: a little fom column A, a little from column B
[06:55] <maco> histo: so i rounded to the nearest hour... which is 7am. fine so its 6:55am technically, but close enough
[06:56] <BarbaraBush_> argh
[06:56] <histo> aroman: set keyboard shortcut preferences to what ever you want.
[06:56] <BarbaraBush_> dc'ed
[06:56] <maco> histo: though i have no idea why i'm doing the `date` command's job
[06:56] <histo> maco: they dont' fly to london for a release just fyi
[06:56] <smw> aroman, if you ever figure it out let me know. I want to kill HP so badly
[06:56] <aroman> histo: well then i'd lose the ability to use Fwhatever keys
[06:56] <maco> histo: so pgraner did what? swam there?
[06:56] <smw> aroman, I have gotten used to it overtime...
[06:56] <aroman> smw: its just lame though
[06:57] <maco> histo: a few key people do go to london for it
[06:57] <aroman> i need two hands to do something i should be able to do effortlessly
[06:57] <smw> aroman, apparently "no one uses the function keys"
[06:57] <BarbaraBush_> anyone know that time natty is released?
[06:57] <aroman> >:
[06:57] <smw> aroman, agreed
[06:57] <histo> aroman: then not quite sure what you are trying to do?
[06:57] <maco> BarbaraBush_: before its the 29th in the last timezone
[06:57] <Narwhal> BarbaraBush: before the 29th
[06:57] <smw> BarbaraBush, when it happens, it happens
[06:57] <BarbaraBush_> maco: the 28th here
[06:57] <AustinWolfclaw> "When it's done"
[06:57] <histo> aroman: you can't have one key have two functions. You have to use a modifier like the Fn key
[06:57] <maco> BarbaraBush_: its not the 28th in california yet
[06:58] <BarbaraBush_> it is done, was done yesterday lol
[06:58] <aroman> histo: i want the modifier to be pressed all the time
[06:58] <aroman> and un-press when I actually press it
[06:58] <Narwhal> BarbaraBush: contrary to what your family believes the Bush's are not the centre of the universe :)
[06:58] <maco> BarbaraBush_: nor in the very last timezone, which is utc-12. still got 30 hours before the 28th ends!
[06:58] <BarbaraBush_> hehe im not in cali  :P
[06:58] <aroman> e.g,
[06:58] <histo> There haven't been updates for a couple of days now 11.04 has been done.
[06:58] <AustinWolfclaw> i know i was making fun of the duke nukem thing
[06:58] <BarbaraBush_> Narwhal: thats why im in EU :P
[06:58] <histo> Just download the daily iso if you people want it so bad
[06:58] <tanath> so where do i go to gripe about usability?
[06:58] <Narwhal> histo: wrong, I got 40 packages updated earlier today
[06:58] <histo> tanath: devs
[06:58] <maco> histo: there've been respins of the ISOs going on and language pack rebuilds and stuff
[06:58] <aroman> if I hit f1 which both maximizes and toggles volume mute, I want mute to be _default_
[06:59] <smw> I came up with a good idea to beet the fact that all the apt mirrors will be overloaded. I will setup an ec2 instance with apt-cacher and download from the ubuntu ec2 mirror. What are the chances the ec2 mirror will be overloaded?
[06:59] <tanath> histo, that a channel? :P
[06:59] <histo> aroman: then change your keyboard shortcut preferences
[06:59] <smw> beat*
[06:59] <AustinWolfclaw> i'll just DL a torrent lol
[06:59] <aroman> histo: like I said, then I lose the ability to ever call fullscreen with a hotkey
[06:59] <smw> AustinWolfclaw, yeah, but you still can't install other packages
[06:59] <tanath> 11.04 looks to be a bigger disappointment than i feared it would be
[06:59] <histo> aroman: no you can assign that a different hotkey
[06:59] <AustinWolfclaw> I'm not on ubuntu...
[06:59] <histo> aroman: but do what you want.
[06:59] <aroman> histo: hmmph
[06:59] <AustinWolfclaw> I'm on windoes, i'm DLing the ISO
[07:00] <kaatta> ok so i have been trying for 5 days to get help in #lubuntu with setting up a composite manager
[07:00] <nutsfornatty> torrent for the win
[07:00] <aroman> this is a very simple task
[07:00] <AustinWolfclaw> err i mean i'm going to dl the iso torrent
[07:00] <tanath> who's bright idea was it to make windows maximize at the top of the screen, making it impossible to put windows there?
[07:00] <aroman> I want to invert the fn key's function
[07:00] <smw> AustinWolfclaw, but do you plan to install anything?
[07:00] <histo> tanath: well they aren't going to completely change the interface because you don't like it
[07:00] <BarbaraBush_> tanath, how so? 11.04 has up to date packages and an new kernel
[07:00] <smw> AustinWolfclaw, the mirrors slow to a crawl
[07:00] <kaatta> so my question is, what kind of performance difference will i see between 10.04, 10.10, and 11.04
[07:00] <AustinWolfclaw> invert from Fn to Nf?
[07:00] <histo> tanath: just don't drag windows past the panel and they won't maximize
[07:00] <ayecee> kaatta: almost none at all.
[07:00] <aroman> smw: you know, I think I'll write a wrapper that intercepts all Fwhatevery keys and maps them to my liking.
[07:00] <BarbaraBush_> ah GUI noob :P
[07:00] <nutsfornatty> tanath, give it a bit of space. it will work
[07:01] <tanath> histo, have a look on youtube. i'm hardly the only one with issues
[07:01] <kaatta> i know that 10.10 is a bit laggy @ times on this machine
[07:01] <histo> aroman: please stop
[07:01] <aroman> i could knock that out in a few hours this weekend.
[07:01] <aroman> histo: ....?
[07:01] <maco> histo: thats a compiz setting
[07:01] <histo> tanath: I don't have those issues
[07:01] <smw> aroman, what you really need is something that makes the fn key always pressed
[07:01] <histo> tanath: if you don't drag it past the top panel it won't maximize
[07:01] <kaatta> lubuntu runs very well, but i am tired of not being able to get any help w/ setting it up
[07:01] <maco> tanath: you can turn off the maximise on screen edge by changing your screen edge bindings in compiz
[07:01] <aroman> smw: well maybe, but I think it ought to invert
[07:01] <histo> tanath: further you drag the bigger it gets
[07:01] <BarbaraBush_> tanath run gnome classic instead of unity, solved
[07:01] <smw> aroman, when you press the fn key, it should then be un-fn
[07:01] <kaatta> so i was hoping 10.04 would run smoother on this hardware
[07:01] <tanath> histo, nutsfornatty hope so. i haven't tested ubuntu's implementation of it yet. i presumed it'd work like my win7 experience, which i hated
[07:01] <smw> aroman, yeah
[07:01] <aroman> smw: precisely
[07:01] <AustinWolfclaw> from what I'm understanding, Unity will only be on Ubuntu and not the other flavors?
[07:01] <aroman> i'll do just that :)
[07:01] <smw> aroman, I am thinking of how caps lock works
[07:01] <tanath> maco, thanks. i was wondering about that
[07:02] <smw> AustinWolfclaw, correct
[07:02] <maco> aroman: is this a mac? there's a tool somewhere for reversing their use
[07:02] <Spaz_Dynamic> I've got a question that doesn't pertain to when natty is coming out. Who wants to hear it?
[07:02] <histo> tanath: you hvae to go passed it as i've stated but you'll see for yourself
[07:02] <smw> !ask | Spaz_Dynamic
[07:02] <aroman> maco: no, but regardless, that's a software setting in OS X
[07:02] <tanath> BarbaraBush_, actually, i like a number of things about gnome 3, except that it also does the maximize thing, and has eliminated applet support which i need
[07:02] <maco> aroman: and in ubuntu...
[07:02] <aroman> maco: oh it is?
[07:02] <aroman> where?
[07:02] <tanath> histo, mhm. thx
[07:02] <smw> any AustinWolfclaw can you see why torrent does not help? What they need is to have apt use torrents!
[07:02] <maco> aroman: yeah, we have a way to handle mac keyboards. lemme look it up again
[07:02] <Spaz_Dynamic> smw: It's called humor. Everyone is asking about natty. =P
[07:03] <aroman> maco: oh right, that actually makes some sense
[07:03] <ayecee> smw: I think there's an "apt-torrent" package that does that.
[07:03] <aroman> I happen to have a mac with a mac keyboard.
[07:03] <histo> #ubuntu-release-party would be more appropriate rather than here
[07:03] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, ok, not very funny though... I was kind of excited
[07:03] <AustinWolfclaw> Narwhals narwhals swimming in the ocean, causing a commotion, cuz they're pretty awesome
[07:03] <smw> ayecee, but it is not in general use...
[07:03] <tanath> anyone know if i'll be able to use the win+a shortcut (compiz function) in unity?
[07:03] <Spaz_Dynamic> smw: and techinically, I didn't ask to ask a qustion, or ask who knew the answer, I asked who wanted to hear a question that wasn't "when is natty coming out"
[07:04] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, ok
[07:04]  * smw raises his hand
[07:04] <aroman> actually
[07:04] <ouyes> how many computers all over the world are now running ubuntu
[07:04] <velcroshooz> 12.
[07:04] <aroman> smw: maco: I think I can actually do this manually in Keyboard shortcuts
[07:04] <histo> !ot | Spaz_Dynamic ouyes
[07:04] <nutsfornatty> not enough to get Adobe to port photoshop
[07:04] <coldfish> 42
[07:04] <smw> ouyes, this can't be determined
[07:04] <AustinWolfclaw> Gimp FTW for Linux
[07:04] <maco> aroman: echo 0 > /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode
[07:04] <kaatta> what kinds of things can i do to make 10.10 run better on lesser hardware?
[07:05] <histo> !ot > AustinWolfclaw
[07:05] <shmoolikipod> Soon Gnome is gone
[07:05] <tanath> coldfish, that's your answer for everything ;0
[07:05] <aroman> granted i'd lose the normal Fkey function, but I can reassign most of the normal stuff
[07:05] <smw> aroman, if you do it, let me know!
[07:05] <maco> aroman: oh actually 1, not 0
[07:05] <tanath> * ;)
[07:05] <aroman> maco: whoa, trying that now, thanks a ton
[07:05] <maco> aroman: http://superuser.com/questions/79822/how-to-swap-the-fn-use-of-function-keys-on-al-apple-keyboard-in-linux
[07:05] <nutsfornatty> i spent yesterday using gimp, its growing on me
[07:05] <histo> kaatta: you could try using a different gui. Something like xfce or xubuntu etc...
[07:05] <Spaz_Dynamic> smw: haha, alright. So, I'm wanting to make a bootable USB for ubuntu, kubuntu, and xubuntu. Is it possible to make one stick bootable for all 3 live "CDs" It is 8GB so there is more than enough room.
[07:05] <coldfish> tanath, haha,right and simple one :)
[07:05] <Roasted> If I'm on 10.10 is it possible to upgrade to 11.04 yet, or are thtose packages not out yet?
[07:05] <histo> kaatta: there is help.ubuntu.com has low memory systems options
[07:05] <kaatta> nutsfornatty, ive used gimp and photoshop, i prefer gimp by alot, ii just dont like a few bugs ive run into that have cost me 8 hrs of work
[07:05] <histo> Roasted: they are out
[07:05] <maco> aroman: dunno if thatll work on a non-apple keyboard though. experiment time i guess
[07:05] <Roasted> histo, appreciate it bro
[07:06] <Spaz_Dynamic> histo: I wasn't off topic, I was just using an interesting segue. =P
[07:06]  * Barbarabush is a very strong man!
[07:06] <ouyes> smw, just a aproxisimite number like 10 100 1000 1000,000
[07:06] <rww> !ot | Barbarabush
[07:06] <aroman> maco: it won't, the module isn't loaded. but I guess I could digaround and see if I could modprobe it somehow
[07:06] <kaatta> ive tried xubuntu, and lubuntu, and had high hopes for lubuntu but lxde seems to be lacking too much that im used to with ubuntu
[07:06] <Spaz_Dynamic> perhaps not interesting so much as long and slightly convoluted.
[07:06] <Barbarabush> !ot rww
[07:06] <^Phantom^> how do i open 'modules' ?
[07:06] <Roasted> histo, by chance if you upgrade, do you know offhand how much extra hard drive space it uses? I ask because I only have 2gb left on my root partiion. I dont want to attempt it if itll tank it :(
[07:06] <tanath> Spaz_Dynamic, you might have a look at startup disk creator... dunno if it supports multiple though
[07:06] <smw> ouyes, one googol (10^100)
[07:06] <histo> ^Phantom^: what are you trying to do exactly?
[07:06] <Barbarabush> !ot | rww
[07:06] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, I would say not. If I really wanted to put work into it, I would get the alternative install cds and combine them
[07:06] <andrew_46> kaatta: I have not tried it but many swear by lubuntu:  http://lubuntu.net/
[07:07] <^Phantom^> see if i have !snd-pcm-oss in modules
[07:07] <Spaz_Dynamic> smw, how would I do that then?
[07:07] <^Phantom^> for a friend
[07:07] <nutsfornatty> kaatta, i think the basic gui is much better in gimp. photoshop is a bloated mess. tasks dont "flow" intuitively
[07:07] <histo> ^Phantom^: well you can lsmod | grep snd-pcm  to see if it's running. If not try locate snd-pcm-oss
[07:07] <tanath> nutsfornatty, gimp needs a lot of gui improvements though
[07:07] <kaatta> Andre_Gondim, im on lubuntu now, i have been sitting in #lubuntu for 5 days asking for help getting a composite manager running (google is no help at all)
[07:08] <tanath> nutsfornatty, like 3 overlapping windows? >.<
[07:08] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, I know very little about ubuntu's usb thing. Does it run a iso in loopback?
[07:08] <histo> ^Phantom^: and I believe it's snd_pcm_oss
[07:08] <kaatta> nutsfornatty, the biggest issue i have with gimp, is on really large projects, the 'undo history' gets so long tthat it will freeze and crash in windows
[07:08] <nutsfornatty> tanath, true. i could see it being the pixelmator (on osx) type killer app for ubuntu with some refinement
[07:08] <andrew_46> kaatta: What did you miss?
[07:08] <tanath> kaatta, there's also the ubuntu forums and askubuntu.com
[07:08] <kaatta> nutsfornatty, i havent really used it in linux yet
[07:08] <x3464> why isn't mangler in the Ubuntu repos.
[07:09] <ouyes> smw, I get a number for accessing ubuntuforums  4581000 ips per day
[07:09] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, for combining them, you get the alternative install cds, you look at the "pool" directory, and you combine them (they have the same file structure, some files are the same)
[07:09] <Spaz_Dynamic> smw: I don't know that myself. I know that the utility unetbootin uses 7zip to extract the images and then makes a modification to the MBR it
[07:09] <hfx> Why isn't ubuntu out yet!
[07:09] <nutsfornatty> i dont mind the windows. no worse than adobes floating bars
[07:09] <hfx> ?
[07:09] <kaatta> andrew_46, i cant find a composite manager that works properly for things like an app dock, and conky
[07:09] <tsimpson> hfx: because it's not
[07:09] <Spaz_Dynamic> hfx: ubuntu has been out for years. =P
[07:09] <cdoktor19> when 11.04 release
[07:09] <ckw> hfx, #ubuntu-release-party
[07:09] <hfx> Yes, thats what i mean
[07:09] <hfx> thanks
[07:10] <tanath> can upgrade now if you want
[07:10] <kaatta> andrew_46, google doesnt show much of anything that i have found, and nothing that i found helpful @ all about what compositte manager i should even be looking for
[07:10] <ckw> cdoktor19, #ubuntu-release-party
[07:10] <qin> x3464: There is PPA for mangler: https://launchpad.net/~mangler/+archive/mangler
[07:10] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, you then need to put all the preseed files in (with different names) and make menu entries
[07:10] <andrew_46> kaatta: What are the specs on the computer?
[07:10] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, It is not easy, however, you will learn alot about the debian installer and automated installs ;-)
[07:10] <histo> kaatta: cairo compmgr is a good one that will work well
[07:10] <histo> kaatta: if you don't want to run compiz
[07:11] <histo> kaatta: Or you can try mudder I believe gnome3 is using that.
[07:11] <Spaz_Dynamic> smw: interesting... I may look into it.
[07:11] <forces> where can i download ubuntu 11.04?
[07:11] <Starminn> histo: I thought it was "Mutter"
[07:11] <rww> forces: it's not out yet, so nowhere
[07:11] <tanath> hfx, cdoktor19 , if you jump the gun and upgrade before the official release time you won't clog the servers as much and suffer said clogging as much...
[07:11] <smw> forceflow, on the main page there is a link to the beta
[07:11] <rww> Starminn: it is
[07:11] <buhman1> it's the 28th across the us...
[07:12] <buhman1> where's my 11.04?
[07:12] <forces> oh! when will be out?
[07:12] <nutsfornatty> beta 2 -> update.... thats as close as you can get to 11.04 final atm
[07:12] <smw> buhman1, it is not the 28th in California!
[07:12] <Starminn> buhman1 forces: #ubuntu-release-party will tell you
[07:12] <kaatta> andrew_46, specs: http://www.netbooktech.com/asus-eee-pc-701sd/
[07:12] <Barbarabush> isent ubuntu using UK release times? or still the french?
[07:12] <forces> ok
[07:12] <rww> buhman1: Ubuntu doesn't use any particular timezone
[07:12] <rww> Barbarabush: ^^
[07:12] <Barbarabush> afaik it has been the 28th for ubuntu for atleast 7h now
[07:12] <kaatta> histo, i searched the synaptic package manager for cairo-compmgr and didnt find it @ all
[07:12] <velcroshooz> doesnt matter what timezone, there is no time set
[07:12] <rww> Barbarabush: it's 7am in the UK
[07:13] <Barbarabush> rww i know
[07:13] <Barbarabush> 8 here
[07:13] <smw> forceflow, buhman1, "Ubuntu 11.04 release is scheduled somewhere in the time period when it's April 28th somewhere in the world, not at a specific time"
[07:13] <rww> oh, I read 17. Sorry.
[07:13] <Barbarabush> lol
[07:13] <andrew_46> kaatta: 7 inch display!!!
[07:13] <maco> Barbarabush: a day is 49 hours :)
[07:13] <aroman> smw: maco: think i figured it out, testing, brb.
[07:13] <Barbarabush> hehe maco
[07:13] <rww> #ubuntu-release-party is driving me crazy I guess
[07:13] <Barbarabush> i was awake at 24:00 here, checking if 11.04 was released :P
[07:13] <proq> party party!
[07:14] <Barbarabush> pooking around ftp's to see if it had been uploaded by mistake etc
[07:14] <tsimpson> seeing as there is no set time for the release, it really doesn't matter what time it is
[07:14] <tanath> cdoktor19, buhman1, forces: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[07:14] <Barbarabush> since 11.04 was done the 27th
[07:14] <kaatta> andrew_46, yea, its a 800x480 resolution, ubuntu installer window doesnt even support that. bottom of the screen is cut off
[07:15] <cdoktor19> am still 10.04 Lts it just upgrade to 10.10
[07:15] <tanath> cdoktor19, and from there you can upgrade to next one. or you could skip and download iso from ubuntu.com
[07:15] <ttuttle> is 11.04 out yet?
[07:16] <rww> ttuttle: no
[07:16] <ttuttle> is it coming out today?
[07:16] <Barbarabush> yes
[07:16] <qin> !party > ttuttle
[07:16] <ttuttle> cool.
[07:16] <ttuttle> qin: thanks
[07:16] <cdoktor19> i will wait to download iso
[07:16] <histo> !party > cdoktor19
[07:17] <dani_> any idea when it will be out????
[07:17] <histo> !upgrade > cdoktor19
[07:17] <histo> !party > dani_
[07:17] <smw> dani_,  "Ubuntu 11.04 release is scheduled somewhere in the time period when it's April 28th somewhere in the world, not at a specific time"
[07:17] <Barbarabush> waste of time inviting people
[07:17] <Spaz_Dynamic> dani_: in the next 24 hours
[07:17] <Barbarabush> people join it and leave again
[07:17] <Barbarabush> just take the channel down lol
[07:17] <Spaz_Dynamic> dani_: correction, what smw said
[07:18] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, we are both correct
[07:18] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, in 24hours and 40minutes it will not be April 28th anywhere
[07:18] <konaya> konaya@carbon:~$ date
[07:18] <konaya> Thu Apr 28 08:18:39 CEST 2011
[07:18] <konaya> It's the 28th. Where is it? :P
[07:19] <histo> !party > konaya
[07:19] <Spaz_Dynamic> smw: not true. california it will still be the 28th, and hawaii and etc
[07:19] <qin> histo: too fast ;)
[07:19] <histo> !ot > smw Spaz_Dynamic
[07:19] <x3464> Mangler needs to be included in the repos.
[07:19] <histo> !ot > Spaz_Dynamic
[07:20] <histo> x3464: you can build a deb and submit it.
[07:20] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, not in 24hours and 40 minutes
[07:20] <konaya> histo, there are three people in #ubuntu-release-party. No, three idling clients, my bad. Feels more productive asking a question in an active channel if you ask me
[07:21] <Spaz_Dynamic> smw, then it will be still in hawaii still
[07:21] <Corey> konaya: You're incorrect.
[07:21] <histo> konaya: there more than 3 and it is off topic here
[07:21] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, maybe, I don't know hawaii, I thought they were PST
[07:21] <Corey> I show 210 people there. :-)
[07:21] <qin> konaya: 210
[07:21] <Scarra3> Sup everyone
[07:21] <Scarra3> Well im glad that 11.04 is released soon
[07:21] <Barbarabush> im not idle konaya :P
[07:21] <konaya> Oh.
[07:21] <konaya> Guys.
[07:22] <konaya> The topic.
[07:22] <rww> konaya: what about it?
[07:22] <Scarra3> Theres a lot of peopl here in okinawa who wan't it lol
[07:22] <konaya> It's an exclamation mark after the release party channel name.
[07:22] <litropy> I have a Kensington Orbit Optical trackball. As you can see: (http://tinyurl.com/6btnlhv), it doesn't have a scroll wheel. While using supported operating systems, right-click+leftclick'ing tells the OS to scroll with the ball's y-axis until another click happens. How can I attain the same functionality in Ubuntu?
[07:22] <konaya> Xchat assumes it's part of the name. :P
[07:22] <rww> konaya: ah
[07:22] <Spaz_Dynamic> smw: i'm not sure about that, but i'm GMT -5, and hawaii can't be more than 6 hours behind me, so thats GMT-11
[07:23] <histo> !ot | Spaz_Dynamic
[07:23] <Barbarabush> so does the freenode web client
[07:23] <quellhorst> is 11.04 out yet?
[07:23] <konaya> That's more like it :) sorry about the confusion and the off-topicness
[07:23] <histo> !party > quellhorst
[07:23] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, I am east coast too
[07:23] <rww> quellhorst: no
[07:23] <konaya> !party > quellhorst
[07:24] <x3464> qin: can't find that ppa you mentioned.
[07:24] <qin> one sec...
[07:24] <histo> x3464: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+mangler+ppa
[07:24] <en1gma> geohot gave his old hacker friends the L:P to the PSN master server after he got hired by sony? he only took the job from sony (as part of the master plan) to take down the PSN?
[07:25] <rww> !ot | en1gma
[07:25] <en1gma> :)
[07:25] <en1gma> k
[07:25] <en1gma> it breaks up the "when is 11.04 gonna be released though"
[07:26] <econnell> qin: because i just deleted it
[07:26] <x3464> histo http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+mangler+ppa
[07:26] <histo> x3464: yes
[07:26] <Spaz_Dynamic> en1gma: I know, thats part of why I kept going on about timezones with smw. xD
[07:27] <qin> x3464: Launchpad seems to be on lockdown
[07:27] <Spaz_Dynamic> why isn't lubuntu endorsed by canonical?
[07:27] <histo> Spaz_Dynamic: http://lubuntu.net/about
[07:28] <qin> econnell: Ah...
[07:28] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, because lubuntu is lxde which is hard to use?
[07:28] <Spaz_Dynamic> histo: yeah, I didn't see why.
[07:28] <econnell> qin: the less support i provide to ubuntu myself, the more they'll take on their own responsibility... just like every other distro
[07:29] <Spaz_Dynamic> smw: how is it hard?
[07:29] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, Well, it is too simple
[07:29] <histo> Spaz_Dynamic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10714672
[07:29] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, not specifically hard
[07:29] <velcroshooz> Spaz_Dynamic, canonical has limited resources, they cant support every offshoot distro with a different DE
[07:30] <Spaz_Dynamic> smw: I use puppy linux. its rather simple and I love it for that.
[07:30] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, I am not saying that makes it bad. It makes it the opposite of ubuntu
[07:30] <Spaz_Dynamic> But I want a more fluffy OS for my desktop, so I use a 'buntu flavor
[07:31] <Spaz_Dynamic> aaahh, ok
[07:31] <histo> !ot > Spaz_Dynamic
[07:31] <ktwo> hi do you know any alternative to pyLoad (it has to run on a non-gui system and provide a web-interface)
[07:32] <topramen> im going to cry now
[07:32] <histo> ktwo: http://alternativeto.net/software/pyload/
[07:32] <Spaz_Dynamic> ubottu: I dun wanna. You just keep saying the same thing to me over and over. It's akin to spamming, and I don't approve.
[07:33] <histo> Spaz_Dynamic: well then stop being offtopic
[07:33] <x3464> histo:  already done...  a long time ago.  http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=7251
[07:34] <histo> x3464: it looks like they need a package for natty but they probably missed that deadline as well.
[07:34] <econnell> hahaha
[07:36] <econnell> x3464: you see why this is so frustrating?
[07:36] <histo> x3464: they need to release a package for the development version.
[07:36] <x3464> Yes....  a sea of confusion.
[07:36] <histo> x3464: so it can be tested etc.. and made sure that it doesn't break anything etc...
[07:37] <histo> x3464: otherwise it will be in ppa. Or you can build from source.
[07:37] <econnell> x3464: this is why i think not distributing a deb and not running a PPA will force their hand...  especially when they find out there's new features they can't use
[07:37] <KatronixSerf> Hi all, running 11.1 Beta 2, and see that my nvidia driver is enabled but not in use, how can I enable it?
[07:37] <histo> KatronixSerf: /j #ubuntu+1
[07:37] <g105b> is this the link to the release version of 11.04? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/natty-desktop-amd64.iso
[07:37] <KatronixSerf> ok
[07:38] <g105b> or do I have to wait until it is released to ubuntu.com ?
[07:38] <forces> g105b, no
[07:38] <x3464> econnell:  I agree...  Mangler should go primetime now.  PPA is just ugly.
[07:38] <forces> g105b, thats daily build
[07:38] <econnell> "oh... you use ubuntu?  yeah... me too... the software is developed on ubuntu and it works perfectly.... but no you can't use it because ubuntu bureaucracy means you have to compile it yourself.  or.... well... go complain in #ubuntu i guess"
[07:38] <asee> my pidgin is not working
[07:38] <histo> x3464: it would if someone would submit a deb to teh development version
[07:38] <g105b> ... I'm just excited to get 11.04 upgraded
[07:39] <histo> econnell: it's not that hard of a process to understand and there are reasons for it.
[07:39] <asee> help me!!! my pidgin is not working
[07:39] <histo> asee: can you describe not working
[07:39] <maco> econnell: what are you on about?
[07:39] <forces> i want the 11.04 iso image
[07:39] <forces> :(
[07:39] <maco> econnell: we have a way to get packages into stable releases
[07:39] <maco> !arb
[07:39] <econnell> histo: i don't care what the reasons for your packaging bureaucracy are...  i write software... not packing stuff for operating system s
[07:39] <histo> !party > forces
[07:39] <maco> bah
[07:40] <ruan> just because natty is released today doesn't mean it's already released and stable
[07:40] <histo> econnell: it's not my policy. it's pretty much every distros
[07:40] <asee> it just failed to login on pidgin ...HELP!!
[07:40] <histo> !volunteer | econnell
[07:40] <econnell> histo: we've been in arch and gentoo for like 1.5 years
[07:40] <g105b> does anyone know what time 11.04 will be up for download?
[07:40] <forces> same question here
[07:40] <maco> econnell: submit your package to the application review board if you want to get it into a stable release
[07:41] <velcroshooz> 2 minutes.
[07:41] <maco> g105b: Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one timezone on the planet Terra in the system Sol
[07:41] <maco> g105b: party in #ubuntu-release-party
[07:41] <histo> econnell: if a user of a distro wants a package. They will submit a deb/rpm/whatever distro plox to a development version so it can be added to official repositories
[07:41] <econnell> maco: hah.... did that about a year and a half ago
[07:41] <maco> econnell: it didnt exist a year and a half ago
[07:41] <nsmnmj> how to solve dependency conflict when two packages need a different version of some other package?
[07:41] <histo> econnell: arch/gentoo development is faster because they are rolling releases
[07:42] <econnell> 1.0.0 was released on dec 2009, correct
[07:42] <econnell> was in repos on arch and gentoo within weks
[07:42] <econnell> *weeks
[07:42] <maco> econnell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostReleaseApps/Process
[07:42] <histo> econnell: i bet it was in aur in arch not official repos first
[07:42] <histo> econnell: or testing
[07:42] <econnell> histo: yes... i understand that it's not as fast... but seriously... a year?  seriously?
[07:43] <econnell> it is in aur
[07:43] <maco> econnell: this process is 6 months old. i have no idea how you purport to have done it a year before it existed
[07:43] <econnell> and there is a maintainer
[07:43] <histo> econnell: I don't know what you want. Distros that just accept any code without it being vetted or requested that would work out well.
[07:43] <econnell> when i released 1.2.2 two days ago, aur was updated within 3 hours
[07:43] <histo> econnell: aur is a user repo like ppa's
[07:43] <histo> econnell: your app is in ppa so I don't understand the issue
[07:44] <andrew_46> econnell: Slackware has a slightly older version: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.37/network/mangler/
[07:44] <econnell> sure... but it's available without my having to do anything... now i've stopped making debs... it'll be someone elses problem... gentoo on the other hand is official
[07:44] <nsmnmj> how to solve dependency conflict when two packages need a different version of some other package?
[07:44] <histo> econnell: I agree with your stance.
[07:45] <econnell> histo: no... i've deleted my ppa because i don't want to maintain it and since i've provided debs, no one else has really cared
[07:45] <econnell> now that i'm not providing those, you're going to get complaints
[07:45] <qin> nsmnmj: Are you installing via dpkg or apt ?
[07:45] <nsmnmj> dpkg
[07:45] <histo> econnell: then maybe nobody wants the app?
[07:45] <qin> nsmnmj: What package?
[07:45] <histo> econnell: it's a user based distro
[07:45] <econnell> histo: yeah... that's what it is...
[07:46] <histo> econnell: community based distro
[07:46] <nsmnmj> gtk
[07:46] <econnell> ubuntu users are the majority of our userbase
[07:46] <histo> econnell: then one of them will make a ppa and produce a deb i'm sure.
[07:46] <maco> econnell: if you dont want to maintain it, did you at least file a needs-packaging bug in ubuntu or (better) a work-needing bug in debian?
[07:46] <econnell> are you serious?  do you even know what this app is and why ubuntu would be the primary userbase?
[07:46] <histo> econnell: ventrillo client or something right?
[07:46] <econnell> maco: there's been a needs packaging bug for over a year
[07:46] <qin> nsmnmj: Did you downmoad gtk?
[07:46] <maco> econnell: i for one have not the slightest idea what app you are talking about
[07:47] <nsmnmj> yes
[07:47] <nsmnmj> from gtk.org
[07:47] <wieldy_BIOS> when new Ubuntu version will released?
[07:47] <nsmnmj> all packages
[07:47] <maco> (i also probably dont care if im getting on fine without it)
[07:47] <histo> !part > wieldy_BIOS
[07:47] <bhavesh> wieldy_NIOS: today
[07:47] <Callum__> !part > Callum__
[07:47] <histo> !party > wieldy_BIOS
[07:47] <Callum__> heh
[07:47] <litropy__> !party
[07:47] <econnell> hell... look at our forums... we get messages like this constantly: I am giving Ubuntu 10.10 a test run on my main gaming rig (loving it so far ^.^) and i recently found Mangler which solved my biggest issue of not having a native ventrilo client for linux. I was astonished when i found out that there is a built-in applet for my Logitech G15 keyboard!
[07:48] <Callum__> I was just about to ask his question, heh, oh well
[07:48] <wieldy_BIOS> ok-ok
[07:48] <histo> econnell: I understand your complaint but that's how ever distro works
[07:48] <maco> econnell: but really the bit about "they'll take on their own responsibility" ... the majority of ubuntu devs are volunteers taking care of the packages they care about and ignoring others. the ones being forced to take care of certain packages for their job are in the minority and since your software isnt part of the default install, they won't be forced to touch it at all
[07:48] <econnell> i dont' care how the distro works
[07:49] <histo> econnell: okay
[07:49] <econnell> maco: wtf... seriously?  do you want to take a second to amend that comment before i respond?
[07:49] <histo> econnell: we're just trying to explain
[07:49] <sobersabre> hi. I am on 10.10
[07:49] <histo> !hi | sobersabre
[07:49] <maco> econnell: not particularly. nobody except the canonical employees are REQUIRED to do anythng for ubuntu
[07:50] <econnell> do you think i make any money from this?  do you think i have some personal gain to make?
[07:50] <maco> econnell: fame?
[07:50] <maco> econnell: dunno
[07:50] <histo> econnell: you and every other linux dev
[07:50] <sobersabre> I want to change default resolution of the console. tried messing with grub2, but it has no effect. I think I need to do something related to fb, but I don't know how with grub2.
[07:50] <sobersabre> I added gfxpayload=1024x768x16
[07:50] <DirtyDawg> is the new 11.04 due out today? i just checked the website and its still 10.10?
[07:50] <maco> econnell: im just saying, nobody in particular has any responsibility to anyone else when it comes to what they package, unless its their *job*. its volunteer work. people can CHOOSE to take it or live it
[07:50] <histo> sobersabre: add a vga mode to
[07:50] <maco> DirtyDawg: some time later today
[07:50] <econnell> i've got projects way more important than this retarded project...  my fame for this crap will never be important
[07:50] <DirtyDawg> ahh thx
[07:51] <sobersabre> histo: ok. trying... will be back.
[07:51] <maco> econnell: please don't use offensive language
[07:51] <sobersabre> vbeinfo is supposed to print out the vga modes list ?
[07:51] <sobersabre> histo: the above line was for you :)
[07:51] <econnell> sorry
[07:51] <histo> econnell: then perhaps the project needs to be picked up by someone else. That's how linux works I don't know what you want.
[07:51] <histo> sobersabre: here let me get you link you need something like vga=771
[07:51] <x3464> crap is considered offensive language?
[07:51] <maco> econnell: by the way, ive scrolled back pretty far in the backlog to as far back as i can see you first talking, and i dont actually see you ever saying what software it is you want someone to package, so i guess i wont be picking it up as my next upload
[07:52] <econnell> i just want someone to package it so i don't have to spend an entire weekend building packages for debian based systems... that's all
[07:52] <qin> nsmnmj: Gtk.org do not load, but it is not easy (or sane) to override version.
[07:52] <histo> econnell: I would put a message on your forums asking for such
[07:52] <sobersabre> histo: I ran vbeinfo in grub shell.
[07:52] <sobersabre> there was no "771" in it
[07:53] <maco> histo, econnell: and for that matter, just ask that it be packaged for *debian* -- no reason to package for debian and ubuntu separately. if its in debian, it'll be sync'd to ubuntu automatically
[07:53] <sobersabre> I wrote down and it looks like 0x117 (which would translate into 279)
[07:53] <maco> whatever "it" is (i still don't know)
[07:53] <qin> sobersabre: That means you cannot use 771
[07:53] <sobersabre> qin: so can I use the hex. codes from vbeinfo output ?
[07:53] <maco> x3464: it was comparison to the mentally disabled that was offensive
[07:53] <histo> sobersabre: sorry just saw you are using grub2 read post#17 here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8024427
[07:54] <sobersabre> histo: thanks, there.
[07:54] <bhavesh> while I boot my ubuntu 10.10 I get a *underscore* blinking for about 4 seconds, is there any way to replace it by ubuntu boot screen?
[07:55] <x3464> maco:  how about redonkulous then.
[07:56] <histo> x3464: there were other words used
[07:56] <histo> x3464: scrollback
[07:58] <qin> sobersabre: ok, either: setupcon, or use this (very good) how to: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/ (it is about old problem, but usable).
[08:00] <econnell> histo: ya know... a good portion of my users are blind... and they use an ubuntu deriviative called vinux, which is a derivative of ubuntu for blind users.   We have worked with them extensively within our app to make sure they had accessibility.  All the while, we were able to maintain casual conversation and even *heaven forbid* make jokes about blindness...  do you really take yourself that serious?
[08:01] <histo> econnell: nope just don't understand what you want? or what your question is? perhaps there is a miss comunication
[08:01] <maco> econnell: i still dont know what your software is, but i will say "thank you for actually bothering with accessibility, unlike just about everyone else"
[08:01] <histo> econnell: I'm just trying to help and explain why it is the way it is.
[08:02] <histo> maco: a ventrillo client. It's a voice chatting app.
[08:02] <maco> econnell: i learned a few weeks ago that 10.10 wasnt installable at all if you're blind and 11.04 is only slightly installable
[08:04] <tuckaway> hi everyone... can anyone suggest a walkthrough or guide to help take necessary steps to secure my ubuntu install.  Just want to make sure I am making my install the most secure I can make it..
[08:04] <kernel> join #c
[08:04] <econnell> maco: histo: incidentlally... vinux includes mangler by default.... because it's useful
[08:04] <maco> econnell: is that the name of the software?
[08:04] <histo> tuckaway: is it just a default install?
[08:04] <histo> maco: mangler
[08:04] <econnell> vinux is the name of the OS
[08:04] <econnell> http://vinuxproject.org/
[08:05] <gr1ncheux> hi there
[08:05] <haxar> hallo
[08:05] <maco> econnell: yeah i know about vinux. ubuntu-accessibility team works with them. im asking "is mangler the name of the software you've been ranting about for the last half hour without naming it?"
[08:05] <smw> tuckaway, is it just a simple desktop install? There is little to secure.
[08:05] <tuckaway> Histo -> yes just the default install.. i have been running ubuntu for about 18 months now and i need to learn how to secure my desktop
[08:05] <histo> tuckaway: secure it from?
[08:06] <mysteriousdarren> lock it down!
[08:06] <econnell> maco: i've name it, linked it, linked revu posts, linked debian bugs...  fine... here: http://www.mangler.org/
[08:06] <smw> tuckaway, what do you mean "secure". What types of attacks are you afraid of?
[08:06] <maco> econnell: thanks. like i said earlier, i scrolled back as far as i saw you talking, and the earliest i see is you telling qin that you deleted....something.. and then just usng "it" to refer to the software so...
[08:07] <tuckaway> just want to make sure i am not leaving anything open on the machine by default.... file sharing, ssh, things of that nature...
[08:07] <smw> tuckaway, what would you do to "secure" windows? What types of attacks do you fear?
[08:07] <gr1ncheux> i installed an ubuntu server 10.04 a few days ago and i'm stocked with an pci express ethernet card with realtek chipset r8168 somebody could help me ?
[08:07] <histo> tuckaway: well if you don't enable them then no.
[08:07] <econnell> maco: i'm frustrated by debian/ubuntu... i shouldn't take it out on you
[08:07] <smw> tuckaway, those are not run by default
[08:07] <smw> tuckaway, I don't even think those are installed by default
[08:07] <llutz_> tuckaway: just normal things to do: don't install stuff you don't need, don't run stuff you needn't, check running services if they are configured as restrictive as possible and "use /dev/brain"
[08:08] <maco> econnell: well i am an ubuntu dev, but in general we prefer *not* to add new packages just to ubuntu, rather they go through debian so A) more users get it and B) more hands to help
[08:08] <proq> llutz_: most people set up /dev/brain > /dev/null
[08:08] <Gloopie>  graph
[08:08] <llutz_> proq: common mistake :(
[08:08] <smw> tuckaway, if you were making a kiosk or something where you are afraid of people with physical access, there is alot to do.
[08:09] <tuckaway> alright maybe i am looking to much into this...
[08:09] <tuckaway> just 2 years into linux and learning
[08:10] <smw> tuckaway, yes, probably. For public computers, it is way to easy to gain root if you have physical access.
[08:10] <Popopo> hello
[08:10] <haxar> hallo
[08:10] <Popopo> :)
[08:10] <lwizardl> so what time will the official release happen today ?
[08:10] <smw> tuckaway, so a school, internet kiosk, etc, would need some work.
[08:10] <tsimpson> lwizardl: there is no set time
[08:10] <tuckaway>  thanks smw
[08:10] <Popopo> well... I am sorry for this question... but I read a lot of FAQs and... I couldn't solve my instalation's problem
[08:10] <theGreatDane> any1 know what xinetd is?
[08:10] <theGreatDane> its a process running on my box\
[08:11] <smw> lwizardl, "Ubuntu 11.04 release is scheduled somewhere in the time period when it's April 28th somewhere in the world, not at a specific time"
[08:11] <Popopo> may I ask for some help about how to install ubunto for netbook?
[08:11] <smw> rww, can I have that as a bot cmd?
[08:11] <smw> that would be sweet :-)
[08:11] <Morten_> theGreatDane: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinetd
[08:11] <lwizardl> where is conicals "home country" ?
[08:11] <maco> lapion: Isle of Man
[08:11] <maco> lapion: bah not you
[08:11] <tsimpson> smw: and now you know why we restrict editing factoids :)
[08:11] <maco> lwizardl: Isle of Man
[08:12] <maco> lwizardl: though their office is in london
[08:12] <lwizardl> ok
[08:12] <smw> tsimpson, yep. Still you have got to admit that would be a nice factoid :-P
[08:12] <theGreatDane> ty
[08:12] <Morten_> :)
[08:12] <tsimpson> smw: for one day, not really...
[08:12] <x3464> Tax Haven what?
[08:13] <smw> tsimpson, fine, I will keep it in my clipboard
[08:13] <tsimpson> smw: most clients will let you set command aliases, set one to send that message
[08:14] <Popopo> ??? nobody to help?
[08:14] <maco> Popopo: you havent asked a question
[08:14] <WaltherFI> Popopo: what's your problem?
[08:14] <llutz_> !details | Popopo
[08:14] <maco> Popopo: or at least not a question beyond "can i ask a question?" level
[08:14] <Popopo> you are right maco... but I explained it
[08:14] <Popopo> my problem
[08:14] <Popopo> is...
[08:14] <Popopo> I am installing ubunto in my netbook
[08:14] <Popopo> where already I have installed W7
[08:15] <Popopo> and it has 4 partitions already...
[08:15] <Popopo> I have no options in ubunto to installing with win7
[08:15] <WaltherFI> That's something W7 does, recovery partitions etc
[08:15] <Popopo> only erase all the disk
[08:15] <Popopo> or manually
[08:15] <Popopo> yes
[08:15] <Popopo> I know Walther
[08:15] <Popopo> but my question... Have I another option?
[08:16] <Popopo> I mean... I don't want to delete my partitions because my job
[08:16] <bhavesh> would it be safe if  I remove quiet and splash from GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset video=uvesafb:mode_option=1280x1024-24,mtrr=3,scroll=ywrap"
[08:16] <maco> Popopo: i think you need to use manual since once there are 4 primary partitions, you cant fit any more at all. you need to get rid of a primary and put in an extended, then you can put lots in the extended one
[08:16] <maco> Popopo: possibly one of these is already extended, even
[08:16] <bhavesh> I want Ubuntu boot menu instead of the blinking *underscore*
[08:16] <Popopo> got it maco... it is not a bad idea
[08:17] <maco> Popopo: but the 4-primary-max is just plain a hard drive thing, not an ubuntu thing
[08:17] <Popopo> ... I think more than one is extended... but isntalations system don't allow me to install it
[08:18] <Popopo> maco... in anycase... if I put one as extended... if do I format the primary upper this extended... the extended will be formated too?
[08:19] <WaltherFI> Official release out yet?
[08:19] <silvery> Hi, does anyone here have information about where I can get release version of 11.04?
[08:20] <msb___> Will 11.04 beta2 be upgradable to the official release?
[08:20] <DirtyDawg> its due out later today
[08:20] <tsimpson> msb___: yes
[08:20] <DJones> Yes
[08:20] <msb___> thanks
[08:20] <WaltherFI> of course it is upgradeable, but i'd still recommend a clean install
[08:20] <quick_nick> silvery: not out yet, release manager will announce at some time today
[08:21] <WaltherFI> i've been through so much trouble after failed upgrades
[08:21] <TerryBook> anyone have an estimate of what time it'll be out?
[08:21] <silvery> can't wait)))
[08:21] <silvery> quick_nick : thank you
[08:21] <PAAAA> UBUNTU COMES TODAY !°!!
[08:21] <DirtyDawg> i,m waiting to download it, have to say tho, i am not sure about Unity yet, looks weird
[08:21] <msb___> yeah, considering a clean install...
[08:22] <WaltherFI> but guys
[08:22] <WaltherFI> !ot
[08:22] <Popopo> ...
[08:23] <pdg1> hello
[08:23] <Popopo> I can't consider a clear install... too much information very important... and moreover... I need to work with win7 because university and job
[08:23] <WaltherFI> Popopo: go with the manual partitioning, merge some partitions and make space for ubuntu
[08:24] <pdg1> i have a dumb question about mounting a file system. I've mounted this drive many times before but i just installed ubuntu server and i can't remember the file system type nor how to properly edit fstab. any help pointing me to a howto/tutorial?
[08:24] <DirtyDawg> i just made a 100GB partition in preperation for the new release, i think i may wubi it first tho just to check it out
[08:25] <vibhav> where to put auto commands in Xchat?
[08:25] <smw> vibhav, it is under the server configuration
[08:25] <Popopo> ok WaltherFi... got it... but it doesn't work. I tried already and doesn't work because I have already 4 primary partitions
[08:25] <vibhav> where smw?
[08:26] <ScottONanski1> When does 11.04 go live?
[08:26] <llutz_> pdg1: "sudo blkid" gives you the filesystem-type, man mount / man fstab should help to get a working fstab-line
[08:26] <smw> vibhav, server -> network list -> choose a server -> edit
[08:26] <DirtyDawg> on a side note, i wonder why wubi only allows a 30gb max size during setup
[08:26] <smw> vibhav, it is the "connect command"
[08:26] <ScottONanski1> When does Ubuntu 11.04 go live?
[08:26] <vibhav> Thanks!
[08:27] <WaltherFI> DirtyDawg: wubi is not recommended
[08:27] <tsimpson> ScottONanski1: there is no set time
[08:27] <DirtyDawg> ScottONanski1: today
[08:27] <Popopo> well... maybe next question is easier... for community... I have ubunto in a usb-key. Now I am running it in my netbook. I have internet connection... and I am trying to install aircrack-ng suite there... but I can't not... it say "dependency is no satisfiable:iw" What is happening?
[08:27] <agare> hej
[08:27] <vibhav> Hi everyone!
[08:27] <WaltherFI> Popopo: aircrack-ng is not officially supported
[08:28] <WaltherFI> Popopo: for that, ask some other channel
[08:28] <pdg1> oh geez... i know what i'm doing wrong :p i forgot the 1 in sdc1
[08:28] <pdg1> thanks llutz
[08:28] <Popopo> mmm got it
[08:28] <Popopo> ok ok...
[08:28] <DirtyDawg> WaltherFI: well i have 10.10 proper install on the desktop, putting the new release on my lappy
[08:28] <Popopo> I will try install ubunto by your advices...
[08:29] <WaltherFI> DirtyDawg: wubi often breaks after some use, it is not intended for long-term usage
[08:29] <Popopo> there is another release? yesterday I downloaded the last one... it was not 10.10?
[08:29] <DirtyDawg> ahh
[08:29] <tsimpson> Popopo: 11.04 releases today
[08:29] <WaltherFI> i totally advice for installing alongside
[08:31] <agare> hi
[08:31] <agare> im a nice guy
[08:31] <DirtyDawg> congratulations
[08:32] <agare> thanks
[08:32] <WaltherFI> !offtopic
[08:32] <Popopo> uuuh today... for netbook version too? I will check it right now... maybe I have a solution there....
[08:32] <sobersabre> histo: I've tried your link, and implemented.
[08:33] <Popopo> thank you for all the answers .ç:) I will try to continue from this point.
[08:33] <Popopo> have a nice day!!! :)
[08:33] <sobersabre> As of now during the boot - GRUB2 does set the graphic mode correctly. BUT after that somehow the setup changes to something I don't want.
[08:34] <soreau> sobersabre: Try sys>prefs>monitors
[08:35] <silvery> Please advice on how do I change Unity to Gnome and would Desktop version of 11.04 have Unity as default desktop environment too?
[08:35] <Soothsayer> launch party channel name ?
[08:35] <soreau> Soothsayer: #ubuntu-release-party
[08:35] <Soothsayer> silvery: yes it would, but I read the switch is easy.. you just pick gnome during the login screen.
[08:35] <Soothsayer> thanks
[08:36] <soreau> silvery: Also, natty is still not supported here until after the official release
[08:36] <silvery> Soothsayer : oh, thanks
[08:36] <vibhav> Can anybody help me in streaming on my network which has 2 ubuntu boxes?
[08:36] <silvery> soreau : until today, then
[08:36] <DirtyDawg> what do the guys in #ubuntu+1 do when the new release is live? just idle and stay silent for a couple of months?
[08:36] <Soothsayer> soreau: professor, isn't that a few hours away? :-P
[08:37] <soreau> Soothsayer: yes
[08:38] <soreau> silvery: Until -later- today
[08:38] <vibhav> Can anybody help me in streaming on my network which has 2 ubuntu boxes?
[08:38] <smw> DirtyDawg, then they can stop splitting their attention and just help in #ubuntu
[08:38] <DirtyDawg> ahh
[08:38] <sobersabre> soreau: sorry to be rude.   do you know what I am talking about ?
[08:38] <smw> vibhav, stream what?
[08:38] <vibhav> stream media like videos
[08:38] <soreau> sobersabre: What graphics card do you have?
[08:39] <sobersabre> soreau: are you a bot ?
[08:39] <vibhav> smw : stream media like videos
[08:39] <silvery> soreau : thanks for your explanation
[08:40] <sobersabre> soreau: I'm trying to reconfigure console resolution.
[08:40] <josephoenix> Hello all
[08:40] <soreau> sobersabre: What graphics card do you have?
[08:40] <sobersabre> soreau: intel
[08:40] <smw> sobersabre, as in when it is not running in the gui?
[08:40] <vibhav> hey smw i want to stream Videos
[08:41] <sobersabre> smw: aye.
[08:41] <soreau> sobersabre: Have you tried the applet in system>preferences>Monitors?
[08:41] <josephoenix> I've been given a VPS with almost no information about it and told "migrate to this." As a first step, I did 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' and it tried to install grub. I told it not to. What are the chances that I screwed things up?
[08:41] <smw> sobersabre, that needs to be fixed in grub
[08:41] <vibhav> hey smw i want to stream Videos
[08:41] <smw> sobersabre, add the option vga=??? where ??? is a 3 digit number representing your display
[08:41] <sobersabre> smw: I have yet to change vga=xxx, which I will try now.
[08:41] <smw> vibhav, I know littel about that
[08:41] <vibhav> smw thats fine
[08:41] <vibhav> smw never mind
[08:42] <smw> sobersabre, that is the only way I know how and I have done it many times
[08:42] <sobersabre> I tried gfxmode, gfxpayload but it apparently changed only what was happening in grub menu.
[08:42] <sobersabre> OK. trying now.
[08:42] <sobersabre> thanks.
[08:42] <horse_play> how many hours till i can download natty?
 what are you trying to do?
[08:42] <soreau> smw: I don't think vga=xxx is supported with kms
[08:42] <K_45> horse_play - by tomorrow
[08:42] <smw> horse_play, "Ubuntu 11.04 release is scheduled somewhere in the time period when it's April 28th somewhere in the world, not at a specific time."
[08:42] <dArKd3ViL> #ubuntu-release-party
[08:42] <sobersabre> vibhav: to get to a resolution I want in the console.
[08:42] <horse_play> K_45, but its the 28th already?
[08:43] <soreau> smw: You use video=1280x1024@60
 Ohh , thats easy
[08:43] <smw> soreau, um, it has always worked for me...
[08:43] <sobersabre> smw: are you on grub2 ?
[08:43] <soreau> smw: worksforme doesn't hold much weight
[08:43] <smw> horse_play, read my quote
[08:43] <K_45> horse_play - timezone differences and the serves need to be updated
 Install Startup Manager from UBuntu Software Center
 Install Startup Manager from UBuntu Software Center
[08:44] <EbanSoul> Is Unity still going to be the default for 11.04 or have they moved to KDE ?
[08:44] <smw> sobersabre, yes
[08:44] <sobersabre> soreau: preferences->monitors doesn't hold in console :)
[08:44] <proq> what is unity?
 no they are using Unity
[08:44] <soreau> sobersabre: Right, I misunderstood you in the first place
[08:44] <sobersabre> proq: in what context.
[08:44] <horse_play> smw, K_45 ok thanks
[08:44] <smw> soreau, yours looked better anyways
[08:44] <smw> soreau, much better than a random 3 digit number
[08:44] <proq> sobersabre: you don't see the context?
[08:44] <soreau> sobersabre: Basically what you're seeing is when the intel module is loaded with kms
[08:45] <proq> sobersabre: <EbanSoul> Is Unity still going to be the default for 11.04 or have they moved to KDE?
[08:45] <smw> proq, lmao
[08:45] <vibhav> proq : Unity is a shell interface for the GNOME desktop environment developed by Canonical Ltd for its Ubuntu operating system
[08:45] <DirtyDawg> i heard that X is to be replaced by Wayland, is that right?
[08:45] <soreau> sobersabre: For example you would use something like this as a kernel param: video=VGA-1:800x600
[08:45] <K_45> @ DirtyDawg, eventually
[08:45] <DirtyDawg> :o
[08:45] <proq> vibhav: a shell interface - do you mean a terminal emulator?
[08:45] <smw> DirtyDawg, one day. X must die
[08:46] <DirtyDawg> :(
[08:46] <soreau> sobersabre: But the name VGA-1 may be different
[08:46] <sobersabre> proq: unity is a new (I'm not sure which:) desktop or windows manager.
 You can use Startup Manger to Change your resolution?
[08:46] <K_45> @ smv - legacy needs to go
[08:46] <vibhav> proq : its not a terminal emulator
[08:46] <sobersabre> soreau: I don't know where does VGA-1 come from.
 I know an easier method to do that
[08:47] <sobersabre> vibhav: to do what ?
 To change the resolution
[08:47] <sobersabre> and what do you mean "easier" it is easy anyway: edit a text file, and run update-grub.
 there is a progrma for that too
[08:47] <sobersabre> vibhav: to change reso of console ?
[08:47] <soreau> sobersabre: I'm trying to find it now..
[08:47] <sobersabre> soreau: hint would be nice :)
 there is a progrmam for that too (to change resolution of grub)
[08:48] <sobersabre> I like your eagerness to help. initially I thought you're not listening.
[08:48] <sobersabre> my bad.
[08:48] <josephoenix> Should a VPS install grup? I did apt-get upgrade and it tried to install grub
[08:48] <sobersabre> vibhav: not resolution of GRUB
[08:48] <josephoenix> I didn't think grub was installed before.
[08:48] <sobersabre> of console.
[08:48] <josephoenix> *grub
[08:48] <sobersabre> vibhav: ok ?
  Ok
[08:48] <llutz_> josephoenix: usually no need for a boot-manager on a vps
[08:49] <sobersabre> vibhav: what irc client are you using? (I know I can /whois you, I prefer asking)
 I use Xchat
[08:50] <Zavior> has anyone seen this before? "(initramfs) Can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs"
 refer to http://superuser.com/questions/66428/how-can-i-change-console-shells-resolution-in-ubuntu-9-10
[08:51] <sobersabre> vibhav: what irc client are you using? (I know I can /whois you, I prefer asking)
[08:51] <sobersabre> hell, I got lagged over ssh.
 I use Xchat as my IRC Client
[08:51] <crackguy> how can i reinstall iscsi-initiator-utils package on Citrix XenServer 5.6?
[08:51] <K_45> Zaviour - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1588547
 Why do you ask?
[08:51] <iceroot> crackguy: ask citrix
[08:51] <phoque_uni> so... once 11.04 is out... how do I change back to Gnome 2? ;-)
[08:52] <sobersabre> vibhav: b/c all the people append NICK:, and yours appends <NICK>
[08:52] <K_45> @ phoque_uni - Switch to Debian
[08:52] <DirtyDawg>  i am thinking of using the new Gnome 3
[08:52] <sobersabre> my client colors lines with  NICK:
[08:52] <phoque_uni> K_45, hah
 in the login session chose Ubuntu Classic Session
[08:52] <sobersabre> so I know when somebody is writing to me. on the chan
[08:52] <K_45> @ phoque_uni - nothing like a stable netinst
[08:52] <GReeNtooTH> Could anyone please tell me how to open a port in ubuntu?
[08:52] <llutz_> phoque_uni: learn to use the session-menu from gdm
 ok
[08:52] <phoque_uni> vibhav, ah cool... so they thought of that. thanks
[08:52] <phoque_uni> :-)
 You are welcome
[08:53] <iceroot> GReeNtooTH: just start the program, it will open the port automaticly
[08:53] <sobersabre> vibhav: capisci ?
 sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport (port number) -j ACCEPT
[08:54] <GReeNtooTH> thanx iceroot
[08:54] <elex> hi
[08:54] <GReeNtooTH> and vibhav
 what do you mean by "capisci"
[08:54] <DirtyDawg> it means "understand" i think
 what do you mean by "capisci"
[08:55] <proq> phoque_uni: you would apt-get install it I suppose
[08:55] <proq> phoque_uni: just a wild guess
[08:55] <damno> i cant set eth1 as default for ntop
[08:57] <damiano> hello
[08:57] <damno> damiano: hi
[08:57] <damiano> hi damno
[08:57] <damiano> i have a strange problem...
[08:57] <EbanSoul> #ubuntu-us-ky
[08:57] <damno> damiano: tell