[00:00] <CDrone``> i donno , its Xubuntu 8.10 here '<
[00:00] <Slart> CDrone``: open a terminal and run "uname -a", tell me what it says
[00:00] <CDrone``> brb
[00:00] <dkulchenko> Scunizi: i was booted into Ubuntu 8.04 Live and used GParted
[00:01] <Slart> CDrone``: check the end.. does it say 686 x86_64 or something else?
[00:01] <CDrone``> bash : run : command not found :D
[00:01] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: can you show us the output of "sudo fdisk -ul" in a pastebin?
[00:01] <corinth> I have an .img file I want to put on my usb flash drive, so that I can boot from it. Anyone know how to do it?
[00:01] <Slart> CDrone``: uname -a ? no typo?
[00:01] <Scunizi> dkulchenko: so what do you mean parted and ubuntu don't see the disk label.. is this durning install and what results did you expect that is not happening...
[00:02] <DasEI> !usb | corinth
[00:02] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: http://pastebin.com/m3c888ad6
[00:02] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: There is a known issue with the installer/partman in Ubiquity (the installer) failing and 'losing' some partitions
[00:02] <CDrone``> uname -a
[00:02] <CDrone``> ok brb
[00:02] <mikeshollen> I am trying to install Ubuntu 8.04 on a Dell Latitude C640 but I'm having problems.  It's a 1.6GHz with 256MB ram.  I tried Hardy and Intrepid, but it gets to the install GUI and just kinda lags out.  The disc drive spins up and down and up and down.  I did install Windows 2000 from the disc drive, so I'm not sure if the drive is bad or just having trouble reading my disc. Any suggestions?
[00:03] <CDrone``> i686 '<
[00:03] <CDrone``> slarty
[00:03] <exodus_ms> mikeshollen, try xubuntu
[00:03] <Stargazer> Hey guys, i have an ubuntu machine that's not very powerful but it's doing small things... but... it has my external hard drive connected to and i don't want to disconnect it and mess something up. i have Samba on it but i can't seem to connect to that drive from my Windows XP machine(this desktop). any ideas ?
[00:03] <CDrone``> Slart:
[00:03] <CDrone``> dont u pass out '<
[00:03] <dkulchenko> Scunizi: i repartitioned the drive with gparted, and am now trying to install Ubuntu on one of the partitions. the Ubuntu installer does not see even a disklabel on the disk, even though it is clearly partitioned and mountable
[00:03] <niku> mikeshollen, the graphical installer requires more ram, iirc, there's an "alternate install" disk which will let you do a text based install
[00:03] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: Thanks. Now, can you show the output of this slightly different command: "sudo fdisk -l"
[00:03] <DasEI> mikeshollen: use the alternate installe and see :
[00:04] <Slart> CDrone``: I'll try.. but if I wake up tomorrow with a keyboard stuck to my face I'm blaming you
[00:04] <DasEI> !bootoptions
[00:04] <wickers> Stargazer, have you made the mount point of the external drive a share within samba's conf file?
[00:04] <CDrone``> Slart: rofl
[00:04] <CDrone``> :D
[00:04] <corinth> DasEI: Thanks, I'll see if I can get it to work. Thanks again!
[00:04] <mikeshollen> that's a great idea guys!
[00:04] <CDrone``> so now should i pic the i380 ?
[00:04] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: http://pastebin.com/m3cfe635b doesn't seem any different...
[00:04] <wickers> Stargazer, you gotta tell samba that you want to share that drive
[00:04] <Stargazer> Wickers, no, i installed Samba and used Nautilus to share it.
[00:04] <CDrone``> IntuitiveNipple: change ur nick man '<
[00:04] <Scunizi> dkulchenko: by disklabel do you mean it doesn't see the disk at all?  something strange there since gparted and fdisk see it.. at what point in the install does it bork?
[00:05] <mikeshollen> I'll try that out and let you know how it goes.
[00:05]  * niku is downloading 166g over usb - this is going to take a while. :/
[00:05] <dkulchenko> Scunizi: gparted does not see it. fdisk does.
[00:05] <wickers> Stargazer, I'm not sure how Nautilus does sharing with samba... I've always just written the share by hand into samba's config files.
[00:05] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: A slight difference, and vital. The second command listed the offsets in *cylinders* whereas the first listed them in *sectors*
[00:05] <niku> s/downloading/backing up/
[00:05] <CDrone``> Slart: still u didn't tell me which to pick now ?
[00:05] <CDrone``> ????????????
[00:05] <Stargazer> Wickers, could you help me do that ?
[00:05] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: There's a know issue with some sector layouts causing the installer to fail. Your situation isn't affected by that though.
[00:06] <Scunizi> dkulchenko: ok.. when you boot the live cd does it boot ok?  sounds like it does... but I want to verify
[00:06] <Slart> CDrone``: you haven't told me what the command said?
[00:06] <dkulchenko> Scunizi: i created the layout in gparted. then i went into fdisk, pressed "x" and then "f" to fix the drive names, then gparted could not see it anymore
[00:06] <CDrone``> i told u
[00:06] <dkulchenko> Scunizi: am typing from it now
[00:06] <CDrone``> its ends up with i686 Slart
[00:06] <Slart> CDrone``: ah.. sorry.. you did.. go for the i386 one
[00:06] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: what does the kernel see: show me the results of "cat /proc/partitions"
[00:06] <wickers> Stargazer, #sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[00:06] <CDrone``> can i pm u slart , just to render this faster ?
[00:07] <Slart> CDrone``: sure
[00:07] <Myrtti> wickers: gksudo, if using gedit
[00:07] <wickers> Stargazer, from within the samba config file, you can read the different sections and waht they are used for
[00:07] <wickers> Myrtti, what's the difference?
[00:07] <Scunizi> dkulchenko: gparted should also be installed in the ubuntu live cd.. are the drives invisible to that gparted as well?
[00:07] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: http://pastebin.com/md493779 seems fine
[00:07] <_VIM_> !gksu | wickers
[00:07] <steelcityjim> can anyone assist in loading a template webpage
[00:07] <B10S> what files should be in /etc/ssh/ by default?
[00:08] <dkulchenko> Scunizi: that is correct. parted, gparted, and ubiquity cannot see the drives, when the kernel, fdisk, and all others can
[00:08] <steelcityjim> having a problem getting it to launch and modigy
[00:08] <Jpdota> Knives: I see you have joined #ubuntu
[00:08] <steelcityjim> modify
[00:08] <B10S> only 3 files?
[00:08] <Myrtti> wickers: the other calls the gtk graphical frontend for typing the password, which is in theory a bit safer, not risking any files getting wrong permissions etc.
[00:08] <Myrtti> wickers: gksudo that is
[00:08] <mendoza> hi all, i'm installing intrepid on a low cpu powered netbook, does anyone have any recommendations for an ide/code editor which has autocomplete? almost an eclipse lite?
[00:08] <wickers> Stargazer, ok, as Myrtti said, gksudo instead of sudo gedit
[00:08] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: Yes, that's good. Does this continue to happen if you restart the installer?
[00:09] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: yes, it does. maybe this is a problem with an extended mbr due to so many partitions?
[00:09] <steelcityjim> ok how do i edit the system files
[00:09] <steelcityjim> keeps telling me no access to delete
[00:09] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: I doubt it, unless a major regression has crept in.
[00:09] <steelcityjim> or edit
[00:09] <jimcooncat> I'm using apt-cacher with great results, but would like something more generic so I can cache my windows and openwrt packages too. Suggestions?
[00:10] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: I think you need to look at the installer logs. If I recall correctly, they are in /var/log/installer/
[00:10] <wickers> Myrtti, thanks, I've always used sudo and it's worked for me but if this is a better way of getting the job done then cool
[00:10] <Scunizi> dkulchenko: as an experiment.. on booting the live cd at the menu where you choose what you initially want to do you're able to hit F6 and add/subtract from the kernel line.. get rid of quiet/splash and add pci=nomsi then continue with loading the live cd and try again..
[00:10] <mikeshollen> I'm sorry guys, I'm having a little trouble figuring this out.  I have the Ubuntu CD up, and I clicked on F6, but I'm not sure what to do now for text based install
[00:10] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: The thing to look at in particular is what partman shows when it repeatedly reports the disk partitions as it progresses
[00:10] <niku> jimcooncat, squid?
[00:11] <Stargazer> Wickers, what now ?
[00:11] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: bash: cd: /var/log/installer: No such file or directory
[00:11] <jimcooncat> niku: I suppose, it looked fairly complex.
[00:11] <wickers> ok, near the bottom of that text file you'll start to see the share sections
[00:11] <wickers> like [shareNAME] followed by options
[00:11] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: search around, I can't recall exactly what the directory is called. Try ls -d /var/log/ins*
[00:11] <Flare183> Is it possible to convert .xm to .mp3 file on Ubuntu?
[00:12] <red-lichtie> Hi, I'm having issues with Intrepid after upgrading from Hardy 8.04 LTS. My network connection drops randomly, web fails, nslookup fails, etc (on WLAN, haven't tried eth). I don't see anything on any of the logs (messages,daemon,syslog,etc) that could point me in the right direction. Should I just wipe the partition and do a vanilla install ? Or is there a way to increase the log level of the network layer so that I can determine the issu
[00:12] <wickers> Stargazer, make one called [externalDriveName]
[00:12] <wickers> Stargazer, and follow the common options you see with the other shares in the file
[00:12] <niku> jimcooncat, basic proxy functionallity is pretty easy, you might need to tweak it to keep files with various extensions around for a while. You can always look @ webmin to configure it if you don't want to get into it deeply
[00:12] <wickers> Stargazer, like, you'll need a 'path', browsable, guest viewable, etc...
[00:12] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: turning up nothing. one sec, i'll search around
[00:13] <Flare183> nvm
[00:13] <wickers> Stargazer, do you see what I mean? you're gonna follow some of the common options you see on the other shares that are written in that file
[00:13] <jimcooncat> niku: I guess it wouldn't be too hard to tell it to use only a handful of sites.
[00:13] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: What version of Ubuntu is that? It may be the locations have been changed since that version
[00:13] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: hardy
[00:14] <wickers> Stargazer, if you're not comfortable editing this kinda file to get the job done, then maybe someone can help with the gnome file managers' way of sharing that seems to be broken for you.
[00:14] <blip-> hi all, i'm just installed phpmyadmin from the ubuntu repos and restarted my system... but there isn't a phpmyadmin in my path.. any ideas
[00:14] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: okay... too long ago for me to remember the layout for that one
[00:14] <Stargazer> Wickers, there's a part with an example for sharing CD-ROM, would it be ok for me to edit that section and use it ?
[00:14] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: that was a release ago
[00:14] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: latest is 8.10, i'm on 8.04
[00:14] <wickers> Stargazer, well the CD-rom example is set read only, and for obvious reasons, but you can alter it as you please
[00:15] <wickers> change the name too
[00:15] <burkmat> After adding the third party repos and updating, is there any reason aptitude wouldn't be able to locate adobe-flashplugin?
[00:15] <powermattt> download directly from adobe website
[00:15] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: Yeah, and I'm on 9.04 :)
[00:15] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: oh...
[00:16] <dtchen> burkmat: which "third party repos"?
[00:16] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: syslog turns up nothing
[00:16] <spirited> success! (I think)
[00:16] <_VIM_> Whats that Virtualbox header file needed for guest tools? something like sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.26.28-dev? or what not...
[00:16] <burkmat> dtchen, the ones that are in software sources per default but disabled. i've got the same repos as another guy, i see the package, he doesn't...
[00:17] <Scunizi> dkulchenko: how 'bout dmesg
[00:17] <dtchen> burkmat: what $arch/
[00:17] <HWNOW> G'day everyone.
[00:17] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: I'm stumped then. Without being there and being able to 'fiddle'. Have you tried restarting the live-CD session?
[00:17] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: parted /dev/sda print turns up: Error: Unable to satisfy all constraints on the partition.
[00:17] <wickers> Stargazer, once you've completed the section, save the file, then restart the samba service
[00:17] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: yes
[00:17] <dtchen> burkmat: (adobe-flashplugin is only available for i386)
[00:18] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: Yes, I was looking at the values for the partition table but not spotted anything abnormal.
[00:18] <wickers> Stargazer, to restart samba:  #/etc/init.d/samba restart
[00:18] <burkmat> dtchen, hmm, checking that. good tip.
[00:18] <dkulchenko> Scunizi: [  522.638492] EXT3 FS on sda1, internal journal and [  522.638500] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. are the only 2 relavant lines
[00:18] <_VIM_> Whats that Virtualbox header file needed for guest tools? something like sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.26.28-dev? or what not...
[00:18] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: One last pastebin please: "sudo dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 | hexdump -C >/tmp/report.log"
[00:18] <dogmagitron> i thought command line applications use less resources - xmms2 is taking up 30% of my CPU? Can anyone explain?
[00:18] <wickers> Stargazer, err, my bad, that assumed you were root, but in Ubuntu you'd do the same only:  #sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[00:19] <wickers> :p
[00:19] <kingsley> How can I tell if a newly installed 8.04 can use a floppy drive?
[00:19] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: http://pastebin.com/m9160fb5
[00:19] <ihagge> hi, someone could help me with the problem on realtek 8168 on ubuntu 8.10 that the network doesn't work properly?
[00:19] <niku> dkulchenko, are you still trying to get things working with those paritions? Just use two small primary partitions and then manually create the rest once you've got your minimal install working
[00:19] <burkmat> dtchen, he was x86_64, problem solved. :) thx
[00:20] <dtchen> burkmat: yw
[00:20] <jimcooncat> dogmagitron: not necessarily
[00:20] <dkulchenko> niku: i can boot into ubuntu fine, i just can't parted or install ubuntu on another partition
[00:21] <Stargazer> Wickers, when i map the drive on WinXP, i get: Z:\ is not accessible | Network access is denied.
[00:21] <dogmagitron> jimmacdonald: kindly elaborate :)
[00:21] <niku> dkulchenko, you can boot into the *live* cd, right? I mean get it installed on your HD then just fdisk + label
[00:21] <looter> Anyone know how to organize the icons in the panel launcher?  Not the icons in the "Applications, Places or System" menus but the icons you can manually pin to the launcher that would display next to those menus.  I keep trying to drag and drop but its not working...
[00:21] <CDrone``> heyya channel
[00:21] <HWNOW> Help, I have tried the method on the Ubuntu Help page on how to Enable DMA for my DVD writter on Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepidlbex, and my wriiting speed is around 1.2X how can i fix this, I have used the hdparm and install sdparm but I do not know what to do with sdparm ??
[00:21] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: nope sorry, can't see anything amiss there
[00:21] <wickers> Stargazer, you have to change the permissions of the directory and the foldiers within to be readable by any user, not just root or the user you are active on the ubuntu machine with.
[00:22] <kingtut> I AM HAVE TROUBLE WITH VERY SOUND WHEN PLAYING ANY VIDEOS AND AUDIO
[00:22] <Guest80131> join #ubuntu-qc
[00:22] <dkulchenko> niku: i can boot into my *hard disk* ubuntu fine. fdisk is fine. parted is not
[00:22] <CDrone``> Slart has asked me to ask u about what package should i use to let the wine package work after it has told me "error : dependency is not satisfiable : blnfmt-support"
[00:22] <CDrone``> ?????????????
[00:22] <fearful> looter: Right click and add to panel, then move them around by right clicking the new icon and choosign move
[00:22] <wickers> Stargazer, also make sure you gave the "guest ok = yes" option for the share.
[00:22] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: that's all right. thanks for trying.
[00:22] <Uldtot> broken_ > have you installed ebox now???
[00:22] <rootcut> hi, can someone guide me through installing Gyachi on Intrepid? :-s I'm a total noob.
[00:23] <niku> kingtut, IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE LINUX IS CASE SENSITIVE AND YOU USE ALL CAPS.
[00:23] <wasabi2> Dual monitor, laptop, Intel 945M, when I use the screen resolution thing, and log off, X comes back blank.
[00:23] <wasabi2> When I do autodetection while the second monitor is plugged in, the configuration leaves it blank.
[00:23]  * niku couldn't help it
[00:23] <CDrone``> anyone answer me
[00:23] <looter> thanks much I can't believe i dind't see that when I right clicked before....SIGH.     thanks again
[00:23] <fearful> looter: Your welcome.
[00:23] <dkulchenko> praises niku
[00:24] <Myrtti> niku: "wrongdoings of others don't justify yours" etc ;-)
[00:24] <perillux> I heard somewhere that AMD processors are more stable with Linux/Ubuntu than Intel processors.  Is that true?
[00:24] <Stargazer> Wickers, how do i make the drive viable for network access (as in, what do i change the users to in order for it to be legible by other computers)
[00:24] <rootcut> hi, can someone guide me through installing Gyachi on Intrepid? is it even possible? i didn't find .deb for intrepid, and terminal tar.gz install didn't work either
[00:24] <CDrone``> help
[00:24] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: just got a break. cfdisk on /dev/sda returns "FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions overlap"
[00:24] <sd32> how do i extract a 7z file in ubuntu?
[00:25] <glenrock> perillux: i've never experienced a difference between linux on amd vs linux on intel
[00:25] <CDrone``> :(
[00:25] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: hmmm!
[00:25] <Uldtot> Anyone who can help me with ebox? ( iwas told yesterday ( here on irc) that ebox have shell command line. (like webmin have)  and webmin do not work 100% (yes / no etc do not work) and i just had to install ebox... but i cannot find this shell command line for ebox... anyone how to get it ??
[00:25] <HWNOW> Help, I have tried the method on the Ubuntu Help page on how to Enable DMA for my DVD writter on Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepidlbex, and my wriiting speed is around 1.2X how can i fix this, I have used the hdparm and install sdparm but I do not know what to do with sdparm ??
[00:25] <Myx0x3> how do i check what version of ubuntu i have? :P
[00:25] <burkmat> dtchen, suggestions for installing flash on x86_64? the .deb off their site doesn't work.
[00:25] <fearful> sd32: You have to download 7zip
[00:25] <dtchen> burkmat: you'd need to use the flashplugin-nonfree package
[00:25] <sd32> fearful, thanks
[00:26] <burkmat> dtchen, wasn't that quite unstable?
[00:26] <wickers> Stargazer, change the permissions of the shared folder and it's subfolders by using #sudo chmod -R 777 /path/to/shared/folder
[00:26] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: Those reports you showed, don't give any sign
[00:26] <dtchen> burkmat: should be much better if you're using intrepid-updates or jaunty
[00:26] <burkmat> dtchen, hmm... alright, thanks.
[00:26] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: but what does the error mean?
[00:27] <ninux> Hey guys!!! how can I auto mount an NFS share on my network?
[00:27] <glenrock> Myrtti: click System > About Ubuntu.  below the ubuntu logo it should say Thank you for your interest in Ubuntu <version>
[00:27] <fearful> sd32: sudo apt-get install p7zip
[00:27] <Stargazer> Wickers, for some reason i can't change Group to me.
[00:27] <glenrock> Myx0x3: click System > About Ubuntu.  below the ubuntu logo it should say Thank you for your interest in Ubuntu <version>
[00:27] <glenrock> Myrtti: sorry, wrong nick :)
[00:27] <wickers> the group is not a user... you are in the users group
[00:28] <Myx0x3> hardy heron is not the newest right? :P
[00:28] <fearful> myx0x3: Or you can type lsb_release -a
[00:28] <HWNOW> How do you enable DMA in a sata drive in Ubuntu 8.10, i have a * beside Udma2 ????
[00:28] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: well if we take it at face value, it suggests the partitions aren't in start-sector order
[00:28] <dogmagitron> so anybody know why a commandline app takes 30% of systerm resources? its xmms2 btw
[00:28] <fearful> Myx0x3: Nope, Intrepid is 8.10
[00:28] <Myx0x3> fearful: doh, does it matther?
[00:28] <wickers> anyhow, I gotta run Stargazer
[00:28] <Stargazer> Wickers, i checked the permissions on the disk (right-click - Properties -> Permissions) and the Folder Acess is set to me.
[00:28] <wickers> good luck!
[00:28] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: Nice! sda7 and sda5 !!!
[00:28] <Stargazer> Ok. :/
[00:29] <fearful> Myx0x3: you can update if you wish through your current version
[00:29] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: what?
[00:29] <wickers> Stargazer, look up at my command line comment on how to do it
[00:29] <wickers> chmod
[00:29] <wickers> works wonders
[00:29] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: look carefully at them in the output of "cat /proc/partitions"
[00:29] <wickers> that would set it so anyone can read/write it
[00:29] <B10S> cant you use 8.10 server as a live cd?
[00:29] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: You were clever to achieve that :D
[00:29] <wickers> but gotta run
[00:29] <wickers> later
[00:29] <B10S> theres no option
[00:29] <Myx0x3> fearful: okey? whit the update manager or thrue ubuntu.com ?
[00:30] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: that must've been fdisk when i did expert mode->fix partition order
[00:30] <red-lichtie> Is there a path to downgrade Intrepid back to current Hardy LTS ? (Yes, I know I should have made a back up before distro upgrade, but I didn't)
[00:30] <HWNOW> How do you enable DMA in a sata drive in Ubuntu 8.10, i have a * beside Udma2 ????
[00:30] <fearful> Myx0x3: Through the update manager, go to System > Administrator > Software Sources
[00:30] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: Try this, it will cause the kernel to re-read the partition table: "sudo partprobe /dev/sda"
[00:31] <rootcut>  hi, can someone guide me through installing Gyachi on Intrepid? is it even possible? i didn't find .deb for intrepid, and terminal tar.gz install didn't work either
[00:31] <Myx0x3> fearful: okey tnx :)
[00:31] <fearful> Myx0x3: In the third column theres one that says Release Upgrades, click normal
[00:31] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: partprobe gives: "Error: Unable to satisfy all constraints on the partition.", the exact same error as parted
[00:31] <sirhc_> hey guys .. i found some info that i think will get my remote going, but i am having some trouble understanding exactly how to implement the instructions. if any of you have a min. would you go through it with me and help clarify the grey areas?
[00:31] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: Grrrrrrrrr
[00:31] <fearful> Myx0x3: You should update entirely your 8.04 before proceeding tho.
[00:31] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: Have you installed anything in the partitions yet?
[00:31] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: If not, wipe the darn thing out and start afresh :)
[00:32] <corinth> Has anyone installed the HP mie version of Ubuntu from the usb .img file?
[00:32] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: 2 of the partitions were originally resized, the rest were added
[00:32] <chu_> Hey, I've been reading, and it's possible I have a clash between apm and acpi? I've looked in synaptic, and have apmd and acpi installed, so it's possible, I guess, though I don't know how to find out if apm and acpi are running...
[00:32] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: i'm trying everything i can so that i don't have to backup and restart
[00:32] <B10S> can you use 8.10 server as a live cd? theres no option to do so
[00:32] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: okay... are all the partitions in the extended 'new' without anything in them?
[00:32] <HWNOW> How do you enable DMA in a sata drive in Ubuntu 8.10, i have a * beside Udma2 ????
[00:33] <sebsebseb> B10S: probably not
[00:33] <sebsebseb> B10S: you could have the server installed in a virtual machine though
[00:33] <Myx0x3> fearful: okej tnx :)
[00:33] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: sda1 and sda7 are the two partitions that have stuff on them. sda1 is primary, sda7 is the 2nd to last logical partition on the extended partition
[00:33] <fearful> Myx0x3: Your welcome
[00:34] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: I've an idea... based on that error report. I wonder if the *start* of sda5 looks to the tools as if it is encroaching in the start of the extended sda4
[00:34] <Myx0x3> i have another problem also hehe :P i cant connect to my computer thrue Putty :S its local so i dont need open any ports, is there a guide to get it work?
[00:35] <sebsebseb> Myx0x3: putty is annoying
[00:35] <Davedan> where does a package usualy put files that holds temp data?
[00:35] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: sda5 is the first logical part. of the extended partition
[00:35] <Uldtot> Anyone who can help me find a web controlled command line    (i awnt to use command remotly on the web)..
[00:35] <Myx0x3> sebsebseb: what should i use? :P
[00:35] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: which is sda4
[00:35] <sebsebseb> Myx0x3: you want to remote connect your Windows computer from Ubuntu?
[00:35] <mgolisch> Myx0x3: usualy it should work after installing the ssh service
[00:35] <red-lichtie> HWNOW, you need to provide more information about your HW. What chip set etc.
[00:35] <Myx0x3> sebsebseb: no reverse ;)
[00:36] <unop_> Davedan, depends on the package, the author, the requirements, etc
[00:36] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: sorry, misread what you said. you're right
[00:36] <Myx0x3> mgolisch: OpenSSH?
[00:36] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: Yes. If you look at the output of "fdisk -l" you can see that sda4 and sda5 appear to start at the same cylinder, but looking at "fdisk -ul" you can see they are sectors apart
[00:36] <Davedan> I want to create a simple package and I'll need to create temp files that will hold for several minutes untill the package deletes them
[00:36] <au_> please help.. one i log into gnome, nothing happens..the screen is brown and there is only mouse cursor
[00:36] <Ahadiel> Myx0x3, openssh-server I think
[00:36] <au_> please help.. WHEN i log into gnome, nothing happens..the screen is brown and there is only mouse cursor
[00:36] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: I'm wondering if we simply 'move' the start of sda5 to the next cylinder boundary and reduce its size correspondingly, if that might solve it
[00:36] <mgolisch> Myx0x3: yeah install the openssh-server package
[00:36] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: hmm.. just 126 sectors apart...
[00:36] <sebsebseb> au_: ok so open up something and try and type? can you?
[00:37] <mgolisch> Myx0x3: its not installed by default
[00:37] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: how can i do that?
[00:37] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: If there is nothing in sda5 you might be able to delete that partition and recreate it in the free space and get the correct values
[00:37] <au_> sebsebseb: no, there is no menu at all...only the cursor, nothing else
[00:37] <sebsebseb> au: which version?
[00:37] <Myx0x3> mgolisch: found it now :) <3 tnx <3
[00:37] <au_> sebsebseb: dunno...
[00:37] <sebsebseb> au_:  ok sounds like xorg may have gone wrong
[00:37] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: Using "sudo fdisk /dev/sda" (so it is in cylinder mode)
[00:37] <mrglinux> hi oin my ubunu 8.10 Internet connection doesn't share to out . how can i do?
[00:37] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: you are correct. there is nothing is sda5. i'll do that now.
[00:37] <Ultraputz> if i want to add a command that starts up before GDM does, in which file would it go?
[00:37] <sebsebseb> au_:  you don't know what version of Ubuntu you got installed?
[00:37] <au_> sebsebseb: I am now using console
[00:38] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: then force the kernel to re-read the partition table with "sudo partprobe /dev/sda"
[00:38] <au_> sebsebseb: hardy
[00:38] <ninux> Hey guys!!! how can I auto mount an NFS share on my network?
[00:38] <Ultraputz> ninux -- smb
[00:38] <sebsebseb> !keyboard
[00:38] <sebsebseb> !xorg
[00:38] <Myx0x3> can i change so i can logon as root over putty?
[00:38] <ninux> Ultraputz: this is beteen 2 Ubuntu machines
[00:39] <ninux> between
[00:39] <sebsebseb> au_: you can type?
[00:39] <Ultraputz> ninux then one has to be a samba server
[00:39] <au_> sebsebseb: tnx, Ill try..yup
[00:39] <mgolisch> Myx0x3: you would have to enable the root user, but why? whats bad about using sudo?
[00:39] <HWNOW> red-lichtie: Model=HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H10A  (LG 16X Burner)
[00:39] <ninux> Ultraputz: I have samba installed on both computers but is the a client and a server for samba?:P
[00:39] <Ultraputz> yes]
[00:39] <Myx0x3> mgolisch: maybe your right :P i could use sudo ^^
[00:39] <Ultraputz> there's both
[00:39] <sebsebseb> !samba
[00:40] <sebsebseb> ninux:   samba is for sharing files with WIndows
[00:40] <Ultraputz> to connect two linux machines, by default, just use something like SSH
[00:40] <Myx0x3> mgolisch: im new at linux but im still lerning ^^
[00:40] <jonnor> Myx0x3: if you want a longer root session, use su
[00:40] <sebsebseb> ninux:  Ubuntu to Ubuntu  you would normally use  SCP or something
[00:40] <red-lichtie> HWNOW, not the drive, but the chip set that is contolling the drive
[00:40] <Ultraputz> unless you need windows boxes to be able to connect _to_ your linux boxes
[00:40] <au_> sebsebseb: its still the same :( there must be some gnome issues I think
[00:40] <rootcut> hi, can someone guide me through installing Gyachi on Intrepid? is it even possible? i didn't find .deb for intrepid, and terminal tar.gz install didn't work either
[00:40] <Uldtot> Anyone know a web command line, ( to install new software from the web, rebooting, removing, updataing etc....)
[00:40] <sebsebseb> rootcut: what's  Gyachi?
[00:40] <ninux> sebsebseb: ah ok but u know I use NFS at the moment and it' a pain in the ass to mount the share evertime :)
[00:40] <Ultraputz> Uldtot, wget
[00:41] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: Looks like it's a known bug... is this the same thing? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parted/+bug/107023
[00:41] <Ultraputz> Uldtot, curl
[00:41] <rootcut> a IM yahoo client for linux
[00:41] <scream> I created a partition that I want to keep some files on.  I created a /home/user/distro "mkdir distro" and mounted the partition there.  Now I try to create a directory in "distro" called files.  Why do I get a permission denied error?  I should not have to sudo to make a directory there?
[00:41] <Ultraputz> if you want a cli web client, install Lynx
[00:41] <rootcut> sorry, thought it was popular
[00:41] <sebsebseb> rootcut: have you tried in Wine
[00:41] <Ultraputz> rootcut - pidgin
[00:41] <sebsebseb> ninux: sorry, but I am not sure
[00:41] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: i'm creating a new partition with fdisk. the extended partition is at ***200 and the first logical wants to begin at ***263, and does not let me force it to ***200.
[00:41] <HWNOW> red-lichtie: am a noob, how do you find out??
[00:41] <Uldtot> Thanks guys ^^ :D
[00:41] <ninux> sebsebseb: ok thx anyway
[00:41] <red-lichtie> rootcut, check out pidgin
[00:41] <au_> anyone can help me? I cant log into gnome
[00:41] <rootcut> utraputz: i need webcam support, pidgin doesn't have it
[00:42] <rootcut> sebastien, what does Wine have to do with it ?
[00:42]  * spirited smiles
[00:42] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: Are those sector or cylinder numbers?
[00:42] <Ultraputz> rootcut -- that's a different issue. there's Ekiga, which is general open SIP...
[00:42] <sebsebseb> rootcut: yes  MSN  on  AMSN or Kmess and you got web cam,  just not with Yahoo :d   also  Wine might be able to run your app
[00:42] <R0b0t1> Ok, I believe I've mentioned this problem before. On my keyboard, which is a Mac's (the shiny aluminum keyboard), the function keys correspond to things like "eject disc", "volume up", "volume down", "brightness", etc. Things like that. However, I am unable to use the normal functions of the F-keys. An example would be when installing windows in a VM, where you need to hit F2. Instead, my brightness is lowered.
[00:42] <mylisto> hey all
[00:42] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: i've switched to sector mode
[00:42] <B10S> what files should be in /etc/ssh/ by default?
[00:42] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: And, no, don't force it... let the logical start at 263 if it feels the need
[00:42] <sebsebseb> rootcut: if you want web cam,  well   you  can have it with  MSN  if you use  AMSN or Kmess
[00:42] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: Make the changes in cylinder mode, that is safest
[00:43] <fearful> rootcut or just simply get Skype
[00:43] <rootcut> well the app is linux based, so i don't see how wine has anything to do with it ... and i need webcam support on yahoo ..
[00:43] <mylisto> I'm trying to get my gigaware usb headset to work in ubuntu...it shows up...but no audio is coming from the headset...only from the pc
[00:43] <HWNOW> red-lichtie: am a noob, how do you find out??
[00:43] <sebsebseb> rootcut: Yahoo  sucks anyway
[00:43] <sebsebseb> rootcut: Wine is for running WIndows apps on Linux distro
[00:43] <rootcut> sebastien, yes i know that .. but all my friends are idiots apparently, and use yahoo
[00:44] <sebsebseb> rootcut: well that's interesting, because normalley they use MSN, not yahoo,  the idiots lol
[00:44] <dkulchenko> IntuitibeNipple: fdisk says "WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy. The kernel still uses the old table. The new table will be used at the next reboot." could that be why it is not updating?
[00:44] <rootcut> sebastien, i know what wine is .. but since Gyachi is a linux app.. again, what does wine have to do with installingi t ?
[00:44] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: Use partprobe to reread it
[00:44] <sebsebseb> rootcut: ok  what linux downloads do you have for your app?
[00:44] <red-lichtie> HWNOW, lspci, find out what controller your mobo has then check out the ubuntu support for that
[00:44] <ari_stress> good morning guys :)
[00:44] <rootcut> w8 a min
[00:44] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: "sudo partprobe /dev/sda"
[00:44] <sebsebseb> rootcut: tar.gz or something like that available?
[00:45] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: This is the code that trips that error: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parted/+bug/107023/comments/3
[00:45] <sascha_> na was llos
[00:45] <islan> I love ubuntu...
[00:45] <rootcut> yes, here http://gyachi.sourceforge.net/download.shtml
[00:45] <sascha_> lol ich auch
[00:45] <fearful> islan, don't we all:p
[00:45] <rootcut> there's a taz.gz for 1.1.0
[00:45] <HWNOW> red-lichtie: will do.
[00:45] <R0b0t1> Ok, I believe I've mentioned this problem before. On my keyboard, which is a Mac's (the shiny aluminum keyboard), the function keys correspond to things like "eject disc", "volume up", "volume down", "brightness", etc. Things like that. However, I am unable to use the normal functions of the F-keys. An example would be when installing windows in a VM, where you need to hit F2. Instead, my brightness is lowered.
[00:45] <Myx0x3> how do i search whit apt-get? O:)
[00:45] <islan> I'm just realizing how much I missed it after a long gaming binge with WinXP
[00:45] <rootcut> i tried it .. there's instructions in INSTALL.txt .. but the first command fails
[00:45] <rootcut> and ./configure tells you to read install.txt :|
[00:45] <andrey22> guys
[00:45] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: partprobe returning same "constraint" error
[00:45] <andrey22> does anyone have a website here?
[00:45] <sebsebseb> rootcut: ok I see
[00:45] <fearful> Myx0x3: Applications > Insta/Remove Program
[00:45] <islan> Myx0x3: apt-cache search <whatever you are looking for>
[00:46] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: oh grrrrrrrr!!!
[00:46] <sebsebseb> andrey22: yeah I got two online right now
[00:46] <rootcut> sebsebseb,  thanks a lot for looking into it
[00:46] <sebsebseb> rootcut: not not done yet
[00:46] <red-lichtie> rootcut, do you have the dev tools installed (compiler, etc) ?
[00:46] <fearful> Myx0x3 Add/Remove will give you a list, and you can search or use that command
[00:46] <sebsebseb> rootcut: you will need to compile that program yourself
[00:46] <sebsebseb> !tar
[00:46] <rootcut> i'm a noob, how do i do that ?
[00:46] <islan> I still prefer apt-cache search
[00:46]  * dkulchenko 's brain hurts
[00:46] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: Shall I explain what I think is happening?
[00:46] <spirited> I need to know what program(s) to download in order to play games on Ubuntu like: World of Warcraft. Could someone please tell me so I can go to that website?
[00:47] <dkulchenko> IntuitiveNipple: please, if it's not too hard
[00:47] <fearful> islan: Yea
[00:47] <Myx0x3> fearful: im trying to use manage my computer whit putty so i need to use apt thing :P
[00:47] <kevin_zhong> guys, I need a little help :)
[00:47] <sebsebseb> rootcut: heh yeah it's been a while for me,  someone else here can hopefully explain to you how you install a .tar.gz.  it did come in a tar.gz the program?
[00:47] <R0b0t1> Ok, I believe I've mentioned this problem before. On my keyboard, which is a Mac's (the shiny aluminum keyboard), the function keys correspond to things like "eject disc", "volume up", "volume down", "brightness", etc. Things like that. However, I am unable to use the normal functions of the F-keys. An example would be when installing windows in a VM, where you need to hit F2. Instead, my brightness is lowered.
[00:47] <sebsebseb> spirited: I think WOW works in Wine
[00:47] <spirited> Ok so Wine is one I need to install huh? What is the other?
[00:48] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: this is theory. The extended partition has extents (start - end) in the primary partition table. The extended partition table is the first sector of the extended partition. If the first *logical* partition entry in that extended partition says it starts in the same place as the extended partition table itself, that error might be the result :D
[00:48] <broken_> ok ebox downloaded, i'm gonna install it now
[00:48] <sebsebseb> spirited: look here.  http://www.winehq.org  and  http://www.appdb.winehq.org
[00:48] <spirited> thanks!
[00:48] <red-lichtie> rootcut: try "sudo aptitude install build-essential" before trying to run configure
[00:48] <dkulchenko> IntuitibeNipple: but it does not. that's why it's forcing me to start the logical partition 63 sectors away from the extended start
[00:48] <sebsebseb> spirited: well there's Wine and  commercial versions of it
[00:48] <sebsebseb> that are meant to be paid for
[00:49] <sebsebseb> wine is the opensource one
[00:49] <rootcut> red-lichtie, thx i'll try
[00:49] <HWNOW> red-lechtie: I have a Corssfire Xpress 3200 ATI
[00:49] <kevin_zhong> I was installing Ubuntu 8.10 through Wubi, still hadn't logged in for the first time, and the computer is connected to a monitor, and after the Ubuntun image came up, the TV started to say Not Support! could that be the TV isn't supported by Ubuntu.
[00:49] <broken_> uldtot, gonna install it now
[00:49] <joljam> I need to run a program called unetbootin from the command line in ubuntu 8.04 ..can someone help me.. i al a relatively newbie in linux
[00:49] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: Factor into that explanation that many disk tools require measurements to align on *cylinder* boundaries and you can see why the error might be happening
[00:49] <islan> sebsebseb: are those commercial ones still pay-per-year/
[00:49] <islan> ?
[00:49] <dkulchenko> IntuitibeNipple: so i can't do anything short of a reformat?
[00:49] <sebsebseb> spirited: also  for  games that aren't 3D, and with enough RAM,  I think a virtual machine of Windows  would be ok.
[00:49] <sebsebseb> spirited: that is if it won't work in Wine or whatever you could try  in a vm as long as it's 2D
[00:50] <sebsebseb> islan: nope not pay per year
[00:50] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: Oh sure you can.. when it comes down to it, it's only 2 x 48 bytes that has maybe one 16-byte entry slighlty wrong
[00:50] <spirited> There is another app someone mention that ran games; does anyone know what that is? I have 3D shooters.
[00:50] <islan> sebsebseb: cool, I remember there being one that was a forced donation of $50 per year or some-such
[00:50] <fearful> spirited: Crossover
[00:50] <Krstnsn> so i have a website that wont render right in firefox... how can i emulate IE?
[00:50] <Krstnsn> theres not firefox extension.
[00:50] <dkulchenko> IntuitibeNipple: but how can i fix that short of editing the inodes with magnets? :)
[00:50] <fearful> spirited: I think you have to pay tho..
[00:50] <sebsebseb> yes  Crossover is one of the commerical apps I was on about
[00:50] <ninux> Hey guys how can i auto mount a share into FSTAB?
[00:50] <sebsebseb> and there's Crossover games now
[00:51] <IntuitiveNipple> dkulchenko: join me in #disk-recovery where we can think quietly :)
[00:51] <islan> does Crossover do a good job?
[00:51] <red-lichtie> rootcut, then, when (if) ./configure complains about missing stuff, you'll have to install therelated " *-dev" packages
[00:51] <spirited> Hmm ok... well let me read about wine.
[00:51] <sebsebseb> islan: Crossover is pretty good yeah
[00:51] <fearful> islan: I'm sure it does, if you have to pay for it..
[00:51] <islan> I heard that you can run certain Steam games perfectly on wine
[00:51] <islan> fearful: I tried a demo of it for Mac, ran TF2 alright, but it wasn't great
[00:51] <Davedan> can I pass a value between two bash scripts?
[00:51] <sebsebseb> islan: there's  Cedega as well, but  that's not liked by the wine community, since they took loads of  code, gave nothing back, and made it into a commercial app
[00:51] <islan> the graphics were poor and it tended to crash
[00:51] <rootcut> red-lichtie, i just re-downloaded it .. the install.txt tells me to firstly run "./autogen.sh" then the usual configure, make, sudo make install
[00:52] <fearful> islan: Yea I couldn't say haven't tested, I don't really game maybe when D3 comes out :)
[00:52] <rootcut> so i do that .. but the autogen.sh fails
[00:52] <islan> but that could be the fault of the mac
[00:52] <rootcut> should i paste you the error ?
[00:52] <sebsebseb> islan: oh your on a Mac
[00:52] <islan> no, I'm not
[00:52] <islan> the Mac was at work
[00:52] <sebsebseb> well
[00:52] <sebsebseb> Windows can run quite well on the Mac, since bootcamp
[00:52] <fearful> I hate windows
[00:52] <Krstnsn> anyone? pls
[00:53] <sebsebseb> fearful: yeah  I dislike it to
[00:53] <islan> but if I could run my PC games perfectly, then I would ditch Windows and never look back
[00:53] <sebsebseb> fearful: ,but look we got gamers wanting to use Linux, but yet the  commercial Windows games companies most of them won't make for it
[00:53] <red-lichtie> HWNOW http://news.softpedia.com/news/Latest-ATI-Linux-Driver-Introduces-Support-for-Ubuntu-8-10-99763.shtml
[00:53] <_VIM_> get an xbox 360
[00:53] <fearful> islan, Yea I don't really game so :)
[00:53] <wasabi2> Multimonitor just wont' work for me on this laptop grrrrr
[00:53] <sebsebseb> islan: you may have to dual boot for now
[00:54] <sebsebseb> islan: and with some effort you can get a lot of Windows games running in Wine anyway
[00:54] <islan> sebsebseb: eh, it's not too bad
[00:54] <sebsebseb> islan: ,but you need know how
[00:54] <islan> oh, I do
[00:54] <sebsebseb> islan: for stuff that won't just work in Wine
[00:54] <islan> yeah, I've only experimented with it a little
[00:54] <islan> _VIM_: afraid I'm not up for paying for online play
[00:54] <fearful> I'm sure you can get crossover without having to pay :) I already found one lol
[00:54] <red-lichtie> rootcut, what does autogn say ? Why is it failing ?
[00:55] <sebsebseb> fearful: lol  and yeah  a while ago it was given away legally for free by them
[00:55] <sebsebseb> fearful: probably again in the future they will do that
[00:55] <islan> I read an article one guy wrote about using wine to run TF2 "perfectly" I might try it out sometime
[00:55] <HWNOW> red-lechtie: are you asking for the chipset for the north or south bridge?
[00:55] <rootcut> paste site ?
[00:55] <au_> please help me, i cant log into my gnome session
[00:55] <fearful> sebsebseb: I think i'll download it just to keep it here you never know
[00:55] <rootcut> got it
[00:56] <_VIM_> its in the topic :)
[00:56] <sebsebseb> fearful: you shoudn't  promote piracy in this channel :D  and everything is publicalley logged
[00:56] <DangerDuck> hy guy's
[00:56] <fearful> sebsebseb: I'm not giving away links or even encouraging :)
[00:56] <fearful> sebsebseb: Well I kinda did your right
[00:56] <sebsebseb> DangerDuck: hi
[00:56] <DangerDuck> it's 1:56 am and i want sleep but i can't
[00:56] <DangerDuck> help
[00:56] <rootcut> red-lichtie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/118649/
[00:56] <sebsebseb> DangerDuck: why not?
[00:57] <DangerDuck> i don't know
[00:57] <DangerDuck> =(
[00:57] <sebsebseb> DangerDuck: guy or girl?
[00:57] <sebsebseb> DangerDuck: this is Ubuntu suppourt by the way
[00:57] <DangerDuck> yes i know
[00:57] <DangerDuck> but nobody want a help from me
[00:57] <sebsebseb> well
[00:57] <sebsebseb> what do you want help with?
[00:58] <DangerDuck> i don't know
[00:58] <DangerDuck> i will go now
[00:58] <DangerDuck> byby
[00:58] <broken_> uldtot, having some issues with the install, gonna try it again in an hour. gotta go do family stuff for a moment
[00:58] <sebsebseb> ok that was a bit weird
[00:58] <fearful> yes
[00:58] <islan> and I was gonna ask him if he needed his /etc/X11.org file reset
[00:59] <nickrud> normal for #ubuntu
[00:59] <sebsebseb> a sort of troll I guess
[00:59] <red-lichtie> rootcut: try `apt-get install libtool`
[00:59] <rootcut> on it.
[01:00] <islan> I once tried debian.  the people in the debian chat though made me go running for the hills
[01:00] <sebsebseb> islan: lol why?
[01:00] <islan> sebsebseb: I heard about linux-elitists.  never met any until then
[01:00] <_VIM_> lol
[01:00] <nickrud> sad but true
[01:00] <R0b0t1> Ok, I believe I've mentioned this problem before. On my keyboard, which is a Mac's (the shiny aluminum keyboard), the function keys correspond to things like "eject disc", "volume up", "volume down", "brightness", etc. Things like that. However, I am unable to use the normal functions of the F-keys. An example would be when installing windows in a VM, where you need to hit F2. Instead, my brightness is lowered.
[01:01] <nickrud> good help, if you get past the asking
[01:01] <sebsebseb> islan: ha ha I see, well Debian isn't  really the distro of choice of so called  Linux elites.  I mean they will want to use stuff like  Slackware,  ArchLinux, and Gentoo
[01:01] <anakron> join #ubuntu-motu
[01:01] <islan> sebsebseb: I was asking for help with this LinuxFromScratch experimental build I was doing, and I got shouted at by some of them
[01:01] <baz> what happens if i install 32bit ubuntu on my system with 6gb of ram? Do the last 2gb just never get used? What about if i use vmware to host more OS's?
[01:01] <islan> and one guy said something like "you're like a kid trying to play in the street, and we're trying to keep you from getting hit by a car"
[01:01] <sebsebseb> islan:   well  Gentoo is meant to be like Linux from scratch
[01:01] <nickrud> baz, it's simply not addressed
[01:01] <islan> it was just an experiment I was doing, something small
[01:01] <rootcut> red-lichtie: still didin't work...... http://paste.ubuntu.com/118651/
[01:01] <ddunn> HELP Network manager is not looking for access points
[01:02] <islan> in my early days of linux to help me learn
[01:02] <fearful> sebsebseb: I personally like ArchLinux out of those three mentioned
[01:02] <sebsebseb> fearful: I was so close to trying them on vm on my old computer, but  then  finally the hardware screwed up properly
[01:02] <baz> nickrud, is there no way to make use of it all using VM's or similar?
[01:02] <CompuHacker> Gentlemen. Ladies.
[01:02] <islan> Sir Compu
[01:03]  * islan tips hat
[01:03] <CompuHacker> Tis me.
[01:03] <sebsebseb> fearful: yeah  Arch   is popular
[01:03]  * CompuHacker does same
[01:03] <nickrud> baz, you have to recompile your kernel with some extra support; you're better off using 64bit if you want to access that mem
[01:03] <sebsebseb> fearful:  still need to try that
[01:03] <randal_> how do you turn compiz off
[01:03] <HWNOW> red-lichtie: I did find any good inforamtion on ULi 1575 Chipset for my motherboard.  The only problem I have is that the DVD burning is at 1.2X everything else works fine?
[01:03] <sebsebseb> randal_: easy
[01:03] <islan> randal_: that should be in your System > Preferences
[01:03] <sebsebseb> randal_: system preferences appearnce
[01:03]  * nickrud has far too much time invested in debian style system management and too old to learn another.
[01:03] <sebsebseb> then go to visual effects
[01:04] <islan> ah, is it in Appearance now?
[01:04] <randal_> oh that compiz lmao that so easy
[01:04] <sebsebseb> islan: yeah
[01:04] <islan> the last time I used it it had some kinda control panel of its own
[01:04] <sebsebseb> islan: there's a advanced settings manager for it yeah
[01:05] <sebsebseb> that has everything
[01:05] <islan> ohh, yeah, needed that advanced stuff :)
[01:05] <sebsebseb> some  company made
[01:05] <sebsebseb> a  cube for Windows :(
[01:05] <red-lichtie> HWNOW, I pushed you in the right direction, but I don't have your HW, so I can only hope that you find a solution from here on in
[01:05] <Darth_Tux> hi all, i am a new Ubuntu user, about 4 and a half hours thus far
[01:05] <islan> yeah, I've been out of the Ubuntu-loop for the past year or two
[01:05] <sebsebseb> I saw on BBC Click  UK technology program
[01:05] <sebsebseb> I was not happy about that
[01:05] <islan> Darth_Tux: happy birthday
[01:05] <sebsebseb> ,but it's only a 14 day trial to, so not many people are going to buy or pirate I expect
[01:06] <Darth_Tux> islan, i like it ok, just need to change some things in it for my use
[01:06] <spirited> How do you kill a process like in windows: alt ctrl delete?
[01:06] <sebsebseb> Darth_Tux: yeah and know where the hidden user data folders are and such
[01:06] <fearful>  spirited
[01:06] <sebsebseb> Darth_Tux: and about which apps are good to install
[01:07] <sebsebseb> and how to install stuff with commands :)
[01:07] <red-lichtie> rootcut: try `apt-get install autoconf automake`
[01:07] <Myx0x3> can someone recomend a IRC klient that i can run from Putty? :P
[01:07] <spirited> what? read the manual?
[01:07] <fearful> spirited: sudo killall
[01:07] <dogmagitron> hi #ubuntu anyone know of a command line app that can run mp3?
[01:07] <spirited> from console?
[01:07] <wasabi2> ati
[01:07] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: you mean from termial?
[01:07] <fearful> dogmagitron: try xmms2
[01:07] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: yes :)
[01:07] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: irssi
[01:07] <fearful> spirited: Yes, you can type top before to get the name
[01:08] <dogmagitron> fearful: thats just my problem - xmms2 takes up 30% of system resources
[01:08] <Darth_Tux> sebsebseb, actually the sudo thing bugs me, the sound when gnome starts is annoying
[01:08] <dogmagitron> fearful: im looking for an alternative
[01:08] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: screen and irssi works great together..
[01:08] <sebsebseb> Darth_Tux: lol well the sound can be changed
[01:08] <fearful> dogmagitron: don't know any which are terminal based to be honest
[01:08] <sebsebseb> Darth_Tux: and sudo is good
[01:08] <islan> Darth_Tux: can't fix the sudo thing, but System > Preferences is there for you
[01:08] <dogmagitron> fearful: thanks
[01:08] <sebsebseb> islan: well a seperate root account could be used
[01:08] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: whats screen? :P
[01:08] <sebsebseb> islan: like other distros
[01:09] <islan> sebsebseb: hmm, but I wouldn't recommend it personally
[01:09] <sebsebseb> islan: same here
[01:09] <sebsebseb> islan: ,but then again what if they have a bad sudo password and someone gets hold of and bang
[01:09] <rootcut> red-lichtie: thank you, that worked... well, at least i got past that step :) .. thanks again
[01:09] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: magic for the console..:). once you putty into a linux machine then sudo apt-get install screen .. after install type screen and you'll get a disclaimer screen .. hit enter.. and you back to a console prompt
[01:09] <sebsebseb> islan: or no firewall and  bad sudo password, so someone gets in
[01:09] <fearful> sebsebseb: there's away to reset the sudo password
[01:10] <red-lichtie> rootcut, gl :)
[01:10] <sebsebseb> fearful: well  plenty of rootkits for Linux
[01:10] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: okey? but what is it? :P
[01:10] <R0b0t1> Ok, I believe I've mentioned this problem before. On my keyboard, which is a Mac's (the shiny aluminum keyboard), the function keys correspond to things like "eject disc", "volume up", "volume down", "brightness", etc. Things like that. However, I am unable to use the normal functions of the F-keys. An example would be when installing windows in a VM, where you need to hit F2. Instead, my brightness is lowered.
[01:10] <islan> and if you have a bad sudo password, then you'll probably have a bad root pswd :P
[01:10] <sebsebseb> yeah and then someone can get in
[01:10] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: from that point you don't have to open different ssh or putty sessions to do different things on that box.. and you can "disconnect" from that screen session and putty connection and come back later to resume right where you left off.
[01:10] <sebsebseb> and  install a rootkit
[01:10] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: are you putty'd into a machine now?
[01:10] <kingsley> How do you use a floppy drive?
[01:10] <shinygerbil> R0b0t1: every time you repeat yourself, the word 'shiny' is used and I get a bump/
[01:11] <Myx0x3> Scunizi:  yes :)
[01:11] <R0b0t1> shinygerbil: XD.
[01:11] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: I'll walk you through some of the tricks.. sudo apt-get install screen irssi
[01:12] <spirited> sudo killall comes up with many options.
[01:12] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: WHAA X) i started irssi how do i get out of it? :P
[01:12] <fearful> spirited lets say you want to kill firefox, you would do sudo killall firefox
[01:12] <fearful> sebsebseb whats good firewall for ubuntu
[01:12] <spirited> ah ok
[01:12] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: wait.. did you also start screen?
[01:12] <sebsebseb> Darth_Tux: security is good, and you get good default security here, unlike with Windows
[01:13] <amshake> hey guys
[01:13] <sebsebseb> fearful: what's a good firewall for any OS?  simple a a hardware firewall in say the router that is enabled
[01:13] <islan> hey amshake
[01:13] <amshake> I'm having a REALLY hard time getting any network shares to work.
[01:13] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: no :P i started irssi before you told me to get screen :P
[01:13] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: /quit will exit irssi and dump any connections
[01:13] <Darth_Tux> sebsebseb, i am not new to linux, i like su
[01:13] <sebsebseb> fearful: hardware firewalls are meant to be the best
[01:13] <spirited> trying to kill the package installer... how can I see the true name of the process?
[01:13] <jake_> hello
[01:13] <amshake> Specifically between two ubuntu machines.... I've got samba installed and have used the nautlilus right click options, but still can not browse shares
[01:13] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: ooh, i tried /exit hehe :P
[01:13] <fearful> sebsebseb well how can I get one on my router
[01:13] <sebsebseb> Darth_Tux: I thought that  was you that, said didn't like sudo
[01:13] <fearful> spirited, why the package installer?
[01:14] <jake_> hello
[01:14] <fearful> spirited, getting errors of lock, there is other ways around it
[01:14] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: once you exit type screen
[01:14] <amshake> I setup a workgroup of "LinuxMachines" and can see that, but can not see the machines
[01:14] <islan> sebsebseb: yeah, he wishes it was su isntead
[01:14] <sebsebseb> fearful: most routers that have been sold in the last few years or so,  have a hardware firewall as part of them
[01:14] <Darth_Tux> i dont like sudo, i prefer to su
[01:14] <islan> instead*
[01:14] <Myx0x3> Scunizi:yeas
[01:14] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: yes*
[01:14] <spirited> Yes was trying to install limewire and went throught the dialogs and it was running a package installer.
[01:14] <_VIM_> !fixapt
[01:14] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: ok.. now type irssi
[01:14] <red-lichtie> fearful: a FW that stops outgoing connections, i.e. it stops bots caling home
[01:14] <sebsebseb> spirited: music pirate
[01:14] <spirited> music pirate?
[01:14] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: yeah :)
[01:14] <usser> spirited, why limewire and not frostwire
[01:14] <fearful> red-lichtie can you give me one
[01:15] <spirited> becasue I didnt know about frostwire.:P
[01:15] <jrib> Darth_Tux: what exactly don't you like about it?  It's pretty much the same from an end-user point of view
[01:15] <sebsebseb> spirited: well if your using limewire  I assume you will be wanting to  pirate something
[01:15] <usser> spirited, frostwire even comes in a deb package
[01:15] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: you now have irssi loaded in "window" number 0.. push ctrl+a (small a)
[01:15] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: now push c
[01:15] <sebsebseb> yes frostwire,  better than limewiere, but torrents for the win :)
[01:15] <R0b0t1> Ok, I believe I've mentioned this problem before. On my keyboard, which is a Mac's (the aluminum keyboard), the function keys correspond to things like "eject disc", "volume up", "volume down", "brightness", etc. Things like that. However, I am unable to use the normal functions of the F-keys. An example would be when installing windows in a VM, where you need to hit F2. Instead, my brightness is lowered.
[01:15] <spirited> ug no comment.:)
[01:15] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: did it take you back to a console prompt?
[01:15] <spirited> Ok I'll look up frostwire
[01:15] <LostChain> can anyone help me figure out why my video in ubuntu 8.10 flickets in my video player
[01:16] <red-lichtie> fearful: don't connect directly to the web (if you only have 1 box) and use a UML system with IPCop+BOT (Block Outbound Traffic)
[01:16] <sebsebseb> spirited: limewire and frostwiere LOL  torrents for the win
[01:16] <red-lichtie> UML = User Mode Linux
[01:16] <_VIM_> what sebsebseb said
[01:16] <sebsebseb> spirited: ,but you shoud only download legal stuff from the net really  :D
[01:16] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: yes :)
[01:16] <spirited> um.... I want my music back.:)
[01:16] <Darth_Tux> jrib, when i am actually doing something is root i tend to be doing a few things, typing sudo everytime seems a bit much
[01:16] <LostChain> can anyone help me figure out why my video in ubuntu 8.10 flickets in my video player
[01:16] <jrib> Darth_Tux: you must not know about « sudo -i » then?
[01:17] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: how do i connect freenode (this irc server? :P)
[01:17] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: you are now in window number 1.. lets split the screen  push ctrl+a shift+s (to give you a capital S)
[01:17] <joljam> someone help me .. I am trying to install unetbootin in ubuntu 8.04 and cannot do it..
[01:17] <Darth_Tux> jrib, i havent come across that in my 4 and a half hours
[01:17] <CompuHacker> "/s irc.freenet.org"
[01:17] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: dont remember how i did
[01:17] <rootcut> red-lichtie, if you still remember my problem, can you check out this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/118653/
[01:17] <spirited> ok then I'll only download legal stuff just for you.;)
[01:17] <jrib> Darth_Tux: try it, it will give you a root shell
[01:17] <Myx0x3> CompuHacker: tnx <3
[01:17] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: yeah noobs and their P2P programs
[01:17] <Darth_Tux> sweet
[01:18] <LostChain> can anyone help me figure out why my video in ubuntu 8.10 flickets in my video player
[01:18] <spirited> Yep I am a noob.
[01:18] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: huh ?:P
[01:18] <Scunizi> Myx0x3:  did it split?
[01:18] <usser> sebsebseb, hey torrents dont work everywhere you know
[01:18] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: did not understand that sorry :P
[01:19] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: ctrl+a shift+s
[01:19] <sebsebseb> usser: you mean like at a univeristy or something, and the guys doing the net, has the port blocked?
[01:19] <_VIM_> Do any of you use a Sony HandyCam on Ubuntu? if so what software if any do you use?
[01:20] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: yes now, set title window to bash or somthing :P
[01:20] <usser> sebsebseb, university, but here verizon throttles torrent traffic, on a tracker i normally get 100-150, with verizon its 10-15
[01:20] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: ok.. is irssi in the top or bottom?
[01:20] <sebsebseb> ok
[01:20] <red-lichtie> rootcut, you are going to see this for each and every missing "....-dev" toolkit, although I'm not sure what the alsa on is (maybe `apt-get install alsa-dev` ?) .
[01:21] <red-lichtie> s/on is/one is/
[01:21] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: top :P
[01:21] <rootcut> red-lichtie, k i'll look in synaptic maybe ...
[01:22] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: ok.. and the cursor is blinkin in the "entry" line for irssi?
[01:22] <fearful> Is firestarter good?
[01:22] <sebsebseb> fearful: how Linux does firewalls now that's interesting
[01:22] <sebsebseb> fearful: ,but I can't really say much,  worth finding out about that though
[01:23] <Myx0x3> yes :P
[01:23] <quantumkenny> All:  Ubuntu 8.10, my sound just stopped working, produces only static, using ALSA
[01:23] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: yes*
[01:23] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: or its green :P
[01:23] <sebsebseb> fearful: firestarter is ok
[01:23] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: now ctrl+a TAB to shift to the lower half that is empty.. now ctrl+a c
[01:23] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: but i can enter text there
[01:23] <sebsebseb> fearful: ,but you should read up on    how firewall works with linux I think,  and about what ports being blocked and when
[01:23] <prince_jammys> wow, you really must be bored, giving step by step tutorials on how to use gnu screen
[01:23] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: aha nice! :(
[01:23] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: :)*
[01:24] <red-lichtie> rootcut: synaptic won't help you much IMHO, when building from source you really have to read the README, especially the requirements bit ;)
[01:24] <sebsebseb> fearful: heh you been running Ubuntu without a firewall then?
[01:24] <sebsebseb> every Internet connected OS needs an enabled firewall simple as that
[01:24] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: how do i make itlook like this: [_] [_]    if you understand :P
[01:24] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: it gets better.. you're catching on that ctrl+a is always teh preface for any other command
[01:24] <adante> hi guys i've got some really wierd behaviour with pinging a windows box on local lan
[01:24] <adante> if i ping the ip it pings as normal
[01:25] <sebsebseb> this is Ubuntu not Windows suppourt
[01:25] <adante> if ping the hostname it also pings but takes a really long time
[01:25] <sebsebseb>       you can go  to  #windows for that
[01:25] <_VIM_> wrong channel adante
[01:25] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: not sure I understand
[01:25] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: hmm... now they are horisontal
[01:25] <homeskill> what does it mean in /etc/shadow if a user has a * for a password field?
[01:25] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: i want it ehm, whats the others name? XD
[01:26] <fearful> sebsebseb yes I have
[01:26] <sebsebseb> fearful: yeah get yourself sorted out with a firewall, and ideally a hardware firewall,  if you got a router it may already have one
[01:26] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: not sure I'm following..
[01:26] <fearful> sebsebseb yea how can I check?
[01:26] <sebsebseb> fearful: Linux  distros can be broken into as well.   you know
[01:26] <sebsebseb> every Internet OS can be cracked into
[01:26] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: side by side? or one on top of the other?
[01:27] <sebsebseb> Internet connected OS
[01:27] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: i want the fields to be Vertikal
[01:27] <TheAngryBunny> don't most linksys routers have firewalls built in?
[01:27] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: yeah side by side
[01:27] <vip3rousmango> All linksys routers have firewalls
[01:27] <red-lichtie> sebsebseb: What ? (Shock ! Surprise !) Ubuntu is not supported by windoes ? ;)
[01:27] <jrib> homeskill: 'man shadow' should explain.  Basically, the user won't be able to login
[01:27] <sebsebseb> fearful: maybe someone already been in there, but you didn't know
[01:27] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: that would be a verticle split.. sorry it doesn't do that from what I've been reading..
[01:27] <homeskill> jrib i thought thats what ! did
[01:27] <joljam> i am trying to install unetbootin .. can someone help me please
[01:27] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie: I did not say that,  I said that every Internet connected  OS  should have a enabled firewall
[01:27] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: oooh :(
[01:27] <jrib> homeskill: take a look at the man page
[01:27] <fearful> sebsebseb: I do know that, how can I check if my router has a firewall?
[01:28] <sebsebseb> fearful: your router configuration page
[01:28] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: now if you want to experiment a little .. try ctrl+a c in either window or split half
[01:28] <sebsebseb> assuming you have one :D
[01:28] <homeskill> the man page says both ! and * mean they wont be able to login. i just dont understand why theres 2 diff things tha tmean the same thing
[01:28] <fearful> sebsebseb yea ok well I got to go for dinner I'll tell you after :p
[01:28] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: heh, okej ^^
[01:28] <red-lichtie> fearful, most routers don't port forward anyway
[01:28] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: now sudo apt-get install surfraw elinks
[01:28] <Myx0x3> maybe i can read in: man screen? :P
[01:28] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: whats that? ^^
[01:29] <Scunizi> red-lichtie: sure they do
[01:29] <jrib> homeskill: the man page says more than that.  ! and * are examples
[01:29] <joljam> sebsebseb can you help me please ...with installing a program .. i downloaded a *.BIN file and typed ./filename... but its not working
[01:29] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie: ah ha you know  about firewalls more than me?
[01:29] <sebsebseb> joljam: ah yes .bin
[01:29] <red-lichtie> unless you have enabled UPnP support for the applications
[01:29] <vip3rousmango> joljam: you have to chmod +x the file first to make it excutible
[01:29] <sebsebseb> joljam: which app?
[01:29] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: elinks is a terminal browser for the internet and surfraw is something that allows searching the net FAST before loading the browser
[01:29] <joljam> sebsebseb..its unetbootin
[01:30] <_VIM_> !info surfraw
[01:30] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie: so  port forwarding yeah.  so since Linux distros tend not to have anything that calls back home, unlike insecure WIndows installs.      a firewall in a way may not be needed?   ,but  people that have an insecure  sudo password, could get cracked anyway?
[01:30] <red-lichtie> sebsebseb: I meant "by default", you obviously can configure them
[01:30] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: okey? ^^ but ill use firefox in Windows if i need anything, i dont have the fastest internet connection :P
[01:30] <joljam> sebsebseb...I want to create intrepid usb using unetbootin.. thats why I am trying to install unetbootin in LTS
[01:31] <sebsebseb> joljam: why was I picked out of everyone here?
[01:31] <namasamaran> cumi
[01:31] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: terminal searching is quick because there's no graphics involved.. did you load it?
[01:31] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: or install it??
[01:31] <Eiremhaith> hello room
[01:31] <sebsebseb> joljam: bins are a bit of a pain in the arse, and   I haven't made a bootable USB  for Ubuntu
[01:31] <joljam> sebsebseb..no one was answering my question earlier..thats why
[01:31] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: sorry no :P but i dont think ill need it hehe :P
[01:32] <vip3rousmango> joljam: Did you chmod +x thefile.bin?
[01:32] <sebsebseb> joljam: someone already said what to do with bin
[01:32] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: ok.. one thing you need to learn is how to detach and reattach to screen..
[01:32] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: heh, okej ? :P
[01:33] <Pelo> anyone else have  the fast user switcher applet kill x ? using the nvidia 180 driver ?
[01:33] <joljam>  vip3rousmango:- I did a chmod 700
[01:33] <red-lichtie> My Intrepib box is still messed up all the same after upgrading from LTS
[01:33] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: to detach ctrl+a d ... try it.. everything will disappear
[01:33] <R0b0t1> Ok, I believe I've mentioned this problem before. On my keyboard, which is a Mac's (the aluminum keyboard), the function keys correspond to things like "eject disc", "volume up", "volume down", "brightness", etc. Things like that. However, I am unable to use the normal functions of the F-keys. An example would be when installing windows in a VM, where you need to hit F2. Instead, my brightness is lowered.
[01:33] <dtcrshr> hi there! im having dificulties with a pendrive. how do i manage to it mout itself automatically?
[01:33] <joljam>  vip3rousmango..just now I did a chmod +x also
[01:33] <dtcrshr> iv installed autofs, but didnt worked
[01:33] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie: messed up in what way?
[01:33] <joljam> but it says.. vip3rousmango
[01:33] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: okej :P did i kill irssi?
[01:33] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: or is it still running?
[01:33] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: nope that's part of the magick..
[01:33] <Pelo> dtcrshr, should mount automaticaly to your desktop when you plug it in , what is happening if not that ?
[01:33] <joljam> vip3rousmango..../unetbootin-linux-313: error while loading shared libraries: libaudio.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:33] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: oooh ;)
[01:34] <vip3rousmango> joljam: whaaaa, ok hold on one sec
[01:34] <red-lichtie> sebsebseb: Ramdom loss of connection with nothing in the logs :(
[01:34] <dtcrshr> well, its not mounting
[01:34] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: you could even close the putty session and it would continue to run
[01:34] <dtcrshr> im insertint directly on the mobo connectors
[01:34] <dtcrshr> they are activated from the bios
[01:34] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie: Internet connection?
[01:34] <hlm> I need help, I have to Ethernet cards, how do I select one that im not connected to?
[01:34] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: heh okej :P but how do i get it back? :P
[01:34] <fatbrain> How would I go about copying all folders from my current one to some other? cp -r ./ dest/  ?
[01:34] <dtcrshr> and the pendrive lights flashes when i plug it in
[01:34] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: to reattach you need to know what the screen number is.. so now type screen -ls
[01:34] <Pelo> dtcrshr, plug it in , open a terminal , type  sudo blkid , do you see it there, also type lsusb , do you see it there
[01:34] <_VIM_> I have surfraw installed how do i use it? I tried reading the -help but I'm not seeing anything usefull 'surfraw -g' didnt work either
[01:35] <prince_jammys> screen -DR
[01:35] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: the line that is shown has a 4 digit number at the beginning of it.  to reattach type screen -r <number>
[01:35] <vip3rousmango> joljam: I'm not sure why it's giving that error.. did you sudo chmod?
[01:35] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: okej :)
[01:35] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: how do i remove the others?
[01:35] <Busbee> Hello everyone!
[01:35] <hlm> where is the network information kept?
[01:35] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: i have 5 here XD ill bet i did something :P
[01:35] <Scunizi> _VIM_: sr google <search parameter>
[01:35] <red-lichtie> sebsebseb: nslookup fails, etc, but WLAN drivers say they have 100% signal. So I'm thinking of just flattening the box and going back to LTS
[01:36] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie:  I see
[01:36] <_VIM_> Scunizi: ah ok thank you :)
[01:36] <red-lichtie> sebsebseb: nothing in syslog, daemonlog, messages
[01:36] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie: yeah wireless can be a pain
[01:36] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: yep.. you typed screen 5 times just after you loaded it.. so you have to attach to one at a time and see if there's nothing there then /exit
[01:36] <the_dark_warrio> I have installed pidgin from source code, but removed it now with make uninstall. I then installed pidgin from the repos, and all images icons which are used by pidgin are gone. I tried apt-get --reinstall install pidgin, but it didn't work. Any hints?
[01:36] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie: well hardy and intrepid not much difference anyway
[01:37] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie: and next Ubuntu is out in April
[01:37] <Scunizi> _VIM_: sr ? to get the different "search" engines
[01:37] <hlm> NEED NETWORKING HELP:
[01:37] <hlm> how do I switch which network card I use?
[01:37] <Pelo> the_dark_warrio, try asking in the #pidgin channel , they might know bettter
[01:37] <red-lichtie> sebsebseb: thats what I thought, but something has changed, and in my case it was for the worse :(
[01:37] <the_dark_warrio> Pelo: Ok
[01:37] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie: to do with the kernel maybe
[01:37] <vip3rousmango> the_dark_warrio: try #pidgin channel, they might have a better answer for you
[01:38] <Pelo> hlm, try asking in #networking
[01:38] <Busbee> Quick question from an Ubuntu newbie: Somehow, my resolution was set to 320x240 and I can't reach the menu to correct that manually. Is there any way that I can open the console with a keyboard shortcut of some kind (Since I can't reach that menu, either) and type in a command to set the resolution to 1280x1024 instead? 3rd party graphics drivers installed and verified working.
[01:38] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie: maybe you could like ndiswrapper hte windows driver for your device
[01:38] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: hmmm :P
[01:38] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: /exit does not work :S
[01:38] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: hang on
[01:38] <usser> Busbee, alt+f2 type gnome-terminal<ENTER>
[01:38] <Pelo> Busbee, sudo dkpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:39] <usser> Busbee, and use xrandr to set resolution
[01:39] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie: have you got a seperate home folder?
[01:39] <dtcrshr> Pelo: , i got sda 1 to 8, but none of them is usb something
[01:39] <Busbee> Thanks, I'll try that now
[01:39] <dtcrshr> all ext3, besides one swap
[01:39] <Pelo> dtchen, what file system is this usb stick in ?  ntfs ? fat ? fat32 ?
[01:39] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: bash: /exit: No such file or directory :S
[01:40] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: /quit  maybe
[01:40] <prince_jammys> Myx0x3: just regular: 'exit'
[01:40] <Pelo> dtcrshr, what file system is this usb stick in ?  ntfs ? fat ? fat32 ?
[01:40] <dtcrshr> fat
[01:40] <red-lichtie> sebsebseb: Yeah, maybe. I did a lot of compiling/configuration, maybe the distro upgrade broke some of that (I'll have to diff the dpk_old files)
[01:40] <dtcrshr> i use it regularly with an xp machine at work
[01:40] <Pelo> dtcrshr, what does lsusb tell you ?
[01:40] <Myx0x3> prince_jammys: aha :) now it worked Scunizi ^^
[01:40] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie: if you have a seperate home folder. that makes  ubuntu  re installing easier, or if you like other distro installing easier
[01:41] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: I knew it was something like that :/
[01:41] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie: also   next version has Ext4 :)   and so loads of us will clean install for that I expect,  that is the more experienced Ubuntu people
[01:41] <rootcut> red-lichtie, i found the answer to the alsa problem .. thing is.. i don't know how to use it: "Install the alsa devel packages (using yast) and then try running ./configure again." ... how do i use yast ?
[01:41] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: hehe nps :P
[01:41] <Dethray> Anyone know what the latest core 2 duo mobile is?
[01:41] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: if i dont want screen anymore? how do i remove it=? i bet it takes some process :P...
[01:42] <R0b0t1> Ok, I believe I've mentioned this problem before. On my keyboard, which is a Mac's (the aluminum keyboard), the function keys correspond to things like "eject disc", "volume up", "volume down", "brightness", etc. Things like that. However, I am unable to use the normal functions of the F-keys. An example would be when installing windows in a VM, where you need to hit F2. Instead, my brightness is lowered. How do I get my function keys to act "normal"?
[01:42] <dtcrshr> http://pastebin.com/m3bb06176
[01:42] <Pelo> dtcrshr, hold on
[01:42] <islan> R0b0t1: you're right, you did
[01:42] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: you mean close it entirely?  you can "exit" all the screens and they won't be running.. on reboot of the remote machine will also close screeen and it won't restart on reboot without you typing screen
[01:43] <red-lichtie> sebsebseb: home isn't the issue I fear, it was all the twiddling that I did in etc and /lib/ to get my laptop working just right. (/me kick himself now for not dd'ing the drive before the distro upgrade)
[01:43] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie: I was just saying about home, to make your re installs easier, if you have a seperate home folder
[01:43] <Pelo> dtcrshr, the problem might be with the computer,  try another usb device ( preferably a usb pen or music player) , try another usb port , check your bios settings to make sure you have usb enabled or whatnot
[01:43] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: yeah close entirely :P whitout reboot
[01:43] <vip3rousmango> R0b0t1: Does your keyboard have an F-Lock key?
[01:43] <dtcrshr> ok
[01:44] <dtcrshr> thanks
[01:44] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie: well actsaul end user features,  not much difference between hardy and intrepid anyway
[01:44] <dtcrshr> ill double check the bios
[01:44] <kevin_zhong> can anybody help me with a quick question?
[01:44] <R0b0t1> vip3rousmango: No, nothing even remotely resembling one. In MacOS, I had to check an option in the system settings, however I am unable to find something like that in Ubuntu.
[01:44] <Pelo> kevin_zhong, you need to ask it first
[01:44] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie: plus then you  will probably want to try the next version in April anyway as I was saying
[01:44] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: is there a "short" commant to exit all at the same time? or do i have to "go into" everone and type exit? :/
[01:44] <red-lichtie> sebsebseb: definately
[01:44] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: just exit as the other nick suggested.. to close the split ctrl+a shift+x
[01:44] <kevin_zhong> lol, ok. Question is, can I write Mandarin Chinese in Ubuntu? I take a Chinese class, and I have to be able to
[01:45] <vip3rousmango> R0b0t1: hmm, The only other thing i can think of is to manually reassign the keys under the keyboard layout settings under Administrator
[01:45] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: each one is running independantly.. so yes you have to go into each one as far as I know..
[01:45] <Pelo> kevin_zhong, the answer is probably yes , #ubuntu-cn might be a better place to ask
[01:45] <Pelo> how
[01:45] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie: so you could try and configure this, but  then not have intrepid for long anyway, or fail at configuring, and downgrade to hardy.   and then clean install the next one
[01:45] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: okey :/
[01:45] <kevin_zhong> oh, okay, thanks
[01:45] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie: no shame in downgrading to hardy,  in fact that is the long term suppourt release anyway
[01:45] <R0b0t1> vip3rousmango: Where might that be located?
[01:45] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: well, i have to go to bed now :P im realy tired as you maybe can recognize XD
[01:46] <Busbee> Problem resolved! Thanks, help channel!
[01:46] <sileni> did compiz ever get that bug fixed where firefox always started up full screen
[01:46] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie: and yes wireless can be a right pain in Linux distros, thanks to manufactures that don't suppourt it properly with their devices
[01:46] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: np.. :)
[01:46] <red-lichtie> sebsebseb: Question is, can I downgrade to hardy without having to do a wipe
[01:46] <Pelo> sileni, I use compiz and I never get that so I guess yes
[01:46] <vip3rousmango> R0b0t1: Menu > System Preferences > Preferences > Keyboard
[01:46] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie: that's where the seperate home folder thing comes in
[01:46] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie: it's own partition for  home
[01:46] <R0b0t1> vip3rousmango: And within that, any idea which button I'd hit?
[01:47] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: tnx for the help im realy glad that you helped me :)
[01:47] <vip3rousmango> R0b0t1: Sorry but no, my keyboard had the F-Lock key, which solved my issue.
[01:47] <sebsebseb> red-lichtie: so the OS it self needs to be wiped, but  you can have your stuff in a seperate home folder  partition and keep that
[01:47] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: now i feel like a pro whit linux ;) just kidding ;)
[01:47] <vip3rousmango> R0b0t1: that would just be the first place I'd look with any keyboard related issue
[01:48] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: I've been learning this for 3 yrs. just in the last couple weeks I've tried to live at terminal as much as possible.. just for fun and experience.
[01:48] <vip3rousmango> R0b0t1: if you can't find a feature in their or the Keyboard Shortcuts, try asking around the ubuntu forums if no-one can help here. Sorry I can't be of better use :(
[01:48] <coffeebug> Hi all.Synaptic shows that gcj4.2 is installed but terminal command says its not.
[01:48] <R0b0t1> Nah, you're the first person that answered me in about 3 months :)
[01:48] <red-lichtie> sebsebseb: yeah, I know that route, multi boot home, etc. I just should have gome there before I distro upgraded :(
[01:48] <sebsebseb> you can do it now
[01:48] <red-lichtie> s/gome/gone/
[01:48] <sebsebseb> it's not to late
[01:49] <sebsebseb> you can make a seperate home now
[01:49] <sebsebseb> !home
[01:49] <FloodBot2> sebsebseb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:49] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: yeah :) and i realy have to learn Linux to get a well paid work ^^ im just at school now but i realy would like to manage linux :P
[01:49] <Pelo> R0b0t1, what is your question again ?
[01:49] <yajohny> hi all :)
[01:49] <R0b0t1> Pelo: Ok, I believe I've mentioned this problem before. On my keyboard, which is a Mac's (the aluminum keyboard), the function keys correspond to things like "eject disc", "volume up", "volume down", "brightness", etc. Things like that. However, I am unable to use the normal functions of the F-keys. An example would be when installing windows in a VM, where you need to hit F2. Instead, my brightness is lowered. How do I get my function keys to act "n
[01:49] <R0b0t1> ormal"?
[01:49] <islan> Myx0x3: you get good work for knowing Linux?  ...why has no one told me this?
[01:49] <R0b0t1> Copypasta.
[01:49] <Scunizi> Myx0x3: me too but I'm almost 50.. little age descrimination when you're competing with 25 yr olds. :(
[01:49]  * Pelo finds yajohny 's cheerfullness suspicious
[01:49] <kevin_zhong> nobody is responding in #ubuntu-cn guess its time to google
[01:50]  * _VIM_ puts tinfoil hat on, and hands one to pelo
[01:50] <Myx0x3> islan: haha xD im getting the work from an friend to the family :P and its something whit cisco also xD
[01:50] <yajohny> after 2year i install again ubuntu :)
[01:50] <Myx0x3> Scunizi: hehe, nhaa i hope im done when im 19 ^^ im 18 now XD
[01:50] <red-lichtie> sebsebseb: I think I adapted too much and "make install"'ed too much with out documenting it for myself, so my bad I guess
[01:51] <Pelo> R0b0t1, I'm gonna take a wild guess that those keys are set in what ever the mac version of a bios is .  you'll probably need to disable it from there
[01:51]  * islan looks forward to graduating
[01:51]  * Scunizi suggests _VIM_ also string coax cable around the parimeter of the house to keep the space men away
[01:51] <_VIM_> :)
[01:51] <R0b0t1> Pelo: Well, I think Ubuntu chooses to do it as other distributions accept them as normal F keys.
[01:51]  * vip3rousmango uses ray blasters for his space invader defence kit
[01:52] <yajohny> ubuntu is after two years great distro...
[01:52] <R0b0t1> Pfft, orbital ion cannon.
[01:52] <vip3rousmango> LOL
[01:52] <_VIM_> lmao
[01:52] <merther> was the static ip address problem fixed in 8.10/
[01:53] <Pelo> R0b0t1, I'm gonna go along with the "search the forum" suggestion , www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:53] <red-lichtie> yajohny, does that mean I can delete my Windows ME partition now ? ;)
[01:53] <R0b0t1> Pelo: Thought so :(. That's where I am atm.
[01:53] <red-lichtie> I guess not :D
[01:53] <spirited> What is the best antivirus app for Ubuntu?
[01:53] <vip3rousmango> Windows-Away
[01:53] <nwillettjeffrie1> Any gurus out there know a command to recursively search a directory for files with a specific file extension and then move all of those files to a different directory?
[01:53] <R0b0t1> spirited: If you need an antivirus for Ubuntu, I'd have to say you're doing something wrong.
[01:53] <_VIM_> !virus | spirited
[01:54] <red-lichtie> Ubuntu installation is probably your best AV :)
[01:54] <spirited> reading now thank you.
[01:54] <jrib> nwillettjeffrie1: use « find »
[01:54] <evilGUI_> red-lichtie: Window ME is such a nightmare =(
[01:54] <spirited> this should be interesting.:)
[01:54] <|ns|nR8> ubuntu can need a AV if your running a mail server that relays mail to windows machines
[01:54] <stephans> hello, may someone please tell me how to tell banshee to list albums containing multiple artists correctly? e.g not each artist in another album with the same name on a different row?
[01:55]  * Pelo wonders if anyone else has had issues with X restarting when switching user ,  possibly nvidia related
[01:55] <spirited> Windows Vista is a nightmare!
[01:55] <aprilhare> there can't be that many machines with Windows ME installed anymore!
[01:55] <aprilhare> that and windows 9
[01:55] <aprilhare> that and windows 95
[01:55] <aprilhare> rather
[01:55] <vip3rousmango> Pelo: My laptop does that sometimes, and I only have an intel chipset, no nvidia here..
[01:55] <red-lichtie> evilGUI_: Never had it, it was more of a rhetorical comment ;) :D
[01:56] <MaxRide> Anybody know the packages for CD-Burning on Ubuntu?
[01:56] <Pelo> vip3rousmango,  thanks,
[01:56] <usser> aprilhare, i still have one :)
[01:56] <sebsebseb> aprilhare: quite few machines around with windows 2000 or  below still
[01:56] <MrGoodkat_> how can i install all dependencies automatic when i put them all in the same folder?
[01:56] <sebsebseb> MaxRide: loads of those
[01:56] <Pelo> maxg__, brassero , gnomebaker
[01:56] <MrGoodkat_> i downloaded all debs via the synaptic download script
[01:56] <vip3rousmango> The only window's i'll install in a pinch is Windows2k, best windows as far as Windows goes...
[01:56] <aprilhare> sebsebseb, yeah but usually its windows 98
[01:56] <usser> MrGoodkat_, you mean all the deb file?
[01:56] <MaxRide> sebsebseb: What's the default installed app?
[01:56] <Pelo> MaxRide, brasero , gnomebaker
[01:56] <joljam> need help using liveusb
[01:56] <|ns|nR8> you think windows 98 would still be more common that ubuntu
[01:56] <MrGoodkat_> yes usser
[01:56] <aprilhare> windows 95, i have found, has this self destructive habit
[01:56] <sebsebseb> MaxRide: Brasero  disk burner
[01:56] <usser> MrGoodkat_, sudo dpkg -i /directorywheredebsare/*deb
[01:56] <MaxRide> Pelo:  Thanks. I'll try those.
[01:56] <sebsebseb> MaxRide: find it in your menu
[01:57] <islan> one day I might have a Win98 comp just to play old PC games
[01:57] <MaxRide> sebsebseb: For some reason it got uninstalled (Actually running EEEBuntu, so that's probably not an oversight)
[01:57] <aprilhare> there are probably machines with windows 3.11 but they would be in third world countries
[01:57] <vip3rousmango> islan: WINE can emulate 98 :P
[01:57] <Pelo> MrGoodkat_, if you have an internet connection why not just sudo apt-get install the package you want , the dependencies will be added automaticaly
[01:57] <aprilhare> :)
[01:57] <DeadRobot> I love wine. :P
[01:57] <MrGoodkat_> pelo no internet connection
[01:57] <sebsebseb> MaxRide: ok well K3B is what I would normalely use :)  so   sudo apt-get install k3b
[01:57]  * Pelo gives DeadRobot the number for AA
[01:57] <MrGoodkat_> thanks usser, that worked like charm
[01:57] <islan> vip3rousmango: but how well may yet be seen :P  I once tried running Baldur's Gate, it crashed a lot
[01:57] <joljam> someone please help me.......I do i install a p[rogram which I have downloaded in .tar.gz format
[01:58] <MaxRide> sebsebseb:  Cool, can it burn .iso?
[01:58] <red-lichtie> I think I still have a full back up of Windows for Workgroups 3.11od a disk that probably can't be read any more (somewhre)
[01:58] <vip3rousmango> islan: ha! same thing happened for Prince of Persia1.4 for me
[01:58] <red-lichtie> s/od/on/
[01:58] <DeadRobot> Noob question: how do see a list of available channels to join?
[01:58] <Pelo> MrGoodkat_, you can list multiple packages in the command  , sudo dpkg -i packageone pakcagetwo etc , put the dependencies first
[01:58] <aprilhare> MaxRide: do us a favour and try double clicking on a iso file. tell us what happens
[01:58] <islan> joljam: gunzip <file> | tar -xv
[01:58] <vip3rousmango> DeadRobot: type /list
[01:58] <red-lichtie> DeadRoot: What client ?
[01:58] <spirited> interesting
[01:59] <MaxRide> sebsebseb: It opens.
[01:59] <vip3rousmango> DeadRobot: oh.. type /list in IRC to see a list of channels :P
[01:59] <Pelo> DeadRobot, you jight regret doing that , there are several 1000 channels on this network,  and I think /list is disabled
[01:59] <usser> joljam, untar it then look for install script, to untar tar -xvf file.tar.gz
[01:59] <noogie> hi, when i scan my ports, i get random high number ports that appear to be open, is this bad?
[01:59] <spirited> So I really dont need to have  an antivirus program installed and running right?
[01:59] <sebsebseb> MaxRide: yes K3B does the lot
[01:59] <_VIM_> correct
[01:59] <JesperHansen> HELP! After running fsck on my harddisken _everything_ got thrown into /lost+found, some with the names like #1235435, others with their original name. How do I recover from this state?!
[01:59] <MaxRide> sebsebseb: Sweet deal. Thanks!
[01:59] <sebsebseb> MaxRide: also it's a good idea to md5 check sum your ISO before burning
[01:59] <usser> spirited, that is correct you dont
[01:59] <DeadRobot> thanks
[02:00] <sebsebseb> MaxRide: ISO for?
[02:00] <spirited> wow nice.
[02:00] <MaxRide> sebsebseb: =/  Checksums are for wimps. I live iun the danger zone.
[02:00] <Pelo> spirited, you might want one so you don'T pass along viruses to your windows using freinds, but for linux you don'T realy need one
[02:00] <MaxRide> sebsebseb: Knoppix, for cloning a laptop.
[02:00] <sebsebseb> MaxRide: well 99% of the time it will have downloaded correctly, but still a good idea to md5check sum
[02:00] <red-lichtie> spirited: try http://www.clamav.net/
[02:00] <sebsebseb> MaxRide: cloning a lap top?
[02:01] <MaxRide> sebsebseb: Yea.
[02:01] <sebsebseb> MaxRide: just re install the OS on there
[02:01] <sebsebseb> or
[02:01] <noogie> I just tried clamav, and it requires root to update, and i couldnt figure it out
[02:01] <red-lichtie> spirited: try `sudo aptitude install clamav clamav-daemon clamav-freshclam`
[02:01] <mamaro> is there a way to click a torrent file and have it download on a local server?
[02:01] <sebsebseb> copy it into a vm
[02:02] <Pelo> noogie,  sudo freshclam , that's the command for updates
[02:02] <spirited> red: do I really need this?
[02:02] <noogie> i did, and nothing happend
[02:02] <ammagendut> hi
[02:02] <Pelo> spirited, you don'T
[02:02] <ammagendut> i want to open .7z
[02:02] <sebsebseb> ah yes
[02:02] <Pelo> noogie, you need it installed first, sudo apt-get install freshclam
[02:03] <sebsebseb> ammagendut: ok I think you need the 7zip command line version
[02:03] <Pelo> noogie, in a terminal, not in the app launcher
[02:03] <noogie> i know
[02:03] <vip3rousmango> spirited: If you want, you can go into the Add/Remove and search Virus, their are about 2 - 4 apps already their to download if you really want an antivirus solution
[02:03] <noogie> i did
[02:03] <MaxRide> sebsebseb: The OE isn't broken. =/
[02:03] <MaxRide> OS*
[02:03] <ammagendut> sebsebseb: how to install using terminal?
[02:03] <sebsebseb> MaxRide: what?
[02:03] <spirited> I think I will hold out on the virus protection progs for now.
[02:03] <sebsebseb> ammagendut: not sure what it's called, but you can find in it synaptic or use apt-get cache serach or whatever it is
[02:03] <L3Tum> Hi everyone. I installed Fedora 10 on a second machine a few nights ago but was/am having problems getting ethernet to work. So I decided to install ubuntu 8.10 on it since I have 8.04 on this machine and I'm more familiar with it. However, every time I try to boot the live cd it does not boot. I says boot from cd:, sits a few minutes, then boots fedora. For some reason I can get it to boot the cd after about 6-7 tries, but then when I try to in
[02:03] <L3Tum> stall I get a continuous screen of SQUASHFS errors. I searched all over google, and have found that I could try setting ide=nodma, but I can't get the cd to boot now. The cd drive works. I can see the files on the cd from fedora. I'm burning the cds from this machine, and all cd checks turn out fine. Does anyone have any advice?
[02:04] <sadaiyappan> Hi
[02:04] <B10S> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/phpmyadmin why does it say "Not Found" ?
[02:04] <Pelo> ammagendut, open sypantic, do a search for zip,  several pakages for 7zip will be visible,   insgtall them , fileroller will be able to unpack 7zip files
[02:04] <sadaiyappan> how come open office 3.0 is not supported by ubuntu?
[02:04] <sebsebseb> L3Tum: sounds like a bad CD
[02:04] <noogie> try localhost/phpmyadmin
[02:04] <sebsebseb> L3Tum: or your CD drive has gone bad
[02:04] <spirited> thanks for the links and thanks for the advice.
[02:04] <B10S> noogie: still not working
[02:04] <sadaiyappan> ?
[02:05] <Pelo> L3Tum, cd might be damaged , try in another comp,  or change the boot order in your bios
[02:05] <ammagendut> ok thanks Pelo
[02:05] <islan> L3Tum: I would also recommend trying a DVD over a CD
[02:05] <the_dark_warrio> Oh, I did it =p
[02:05] <sadaiyappan> for that matter, most of ubuntus software is outdated
[02:05] <the_dark_warrio> i had to remove pidgin-data in order to restore the icons
[02:05] <vip3rousmango> sadaiyappan: OOo 3.0 isnt fully stable compaired to 2.4.. which is why they chose to continue 2.4's support untill 3.0 becomes less buggy
[02:05] <MaxRide> sebsebseb: I'm cloning my EEEPC's disk to DVD because I want to change up the OS for a bit, but I'll end up going back to how it is now.
[02:05] <sadaiyappan> oh ok
[02:05] <Pelo> sadaiyappan, different version,  ubuntu only updates to fixes , not new versions,  3.0 will probably be in the next ubuntu release
[02:06] <sadaiyappan> ok
[02:06] <L3Tum> Even though the cd loads in fedora on that machine and shows files and all? I tried making another cd thinking it was bad, and same thing.The boot order is coirrect, I made sure a few times
[02:06] <vip3rousmango> ... that too
[02:06] <sebsebseb> vip3rousmango: nice story, but I think.  it's, because Ubuntu only does security updates, until a next release. w ith the exception of some ppas
[02:06] <mien> just wondering if there's any ubuntu/linux experts in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia?
[02:06] <noogie> should i block outbound connections?
[02:06] <_VIM_> MaxRide: if you want a 'sandbox' environment it might be easier to use Virtualbox or Vmware
[02:06] <_VIM_> !Virtualbox
[02:06] <sebsebseb> !ma
[02:06] <deddert> i have a problem if someone can help me
[02:06] <Pelo> later folks
[02:06] <B10S> its installed and everything :s
[02:06] <Guest834> anyone familiar with emc2
[02:07] <WebcamWonder> !anyone | deddert
[02:07] <sebsebseb> mien: there might be a channel for your area
[02:07] <DeadRobot> deddert: wwhats the problem
[02:07] <deddert> there are locks on some of my music files i drag in off my cdrom
[02:07] <vip3rousmango> sebsebseb: yeah, you're right. I forgot that its updates not upgrades. The new Ubuntu should have 3.0, but I use gOS 3, I find it soo much easyer as a ubuntu 8.04 dirivative
[02:07] <L3Tum> islan, also, The machine only has cd drvie, not dvd
[02:07] <noogie> is it easy to detect rootkit/trojan?
[02:07] <mien> oh how do i find it?
[02:07] <islan> L3Tum: dang.  I had a problem with an 8.10 CD too, but switching to DVD seemed to fix it for me
[02:08] <JesperHansen> HELP! After running fsck on my harddisken _everything_ got thrown into /lost+found, some with the names like #1235435, others with their original name. How do I recover from this state?!
[02:08] <vip3rousmango> noogie: it should since most of those viruses are aimmed towards windows, check in wine's C;\ directory as thats were most viruses unpack too
[02:08] <L3Tum> I tried using 8.04 also, same thing again
[02:08] <mamaro> is there a way to click a torrent file and have it download on a local server?
[02:08] <sebsebseb> vip3rousmango: well  real Ubuntu is the one that should be most used :)  not any dirvative of it.  and yeah real Ubuntu is most used.
[02:08] <Pici> mien: You may be able to find a loco team nearby, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[02:08] <sebsebseb> vip3rousmango: so yeah I mean Kubuntu and Xubuntu that's ok as well
[02:08] <noogie> im running ubuntu
[02:08] <B10S> whats the php package that should be installed?
[02:08] <mien> ok thanks!!
[02:09]  * islan goes and reads some Nietzsche
[02:09] <Dr_willis> mamaro,  you mean have a torrent client on a different machine start downlaoding it?
[02:09] <deddert> does anyone know how to get the locks off my music folders i dragged onto my harddrive
[02:09] <vip3rousmango> sebsebseb: Ahh, I find that Ubuntu itself kills my laptop's ram.. I don't know why, Kubuntu was a little easyer but if I do too much it slows down to a crawl. gOS I havn't had that issue happen yet, and I've been trying
[02:09] <sebsebseb> well Xubuntu is nice to
[02:09] <sebsebseb> that's the more light waight one
[02:09] <Dr_willis> deddert,  set the ownership or permissions to be correct for the user you are using.
[02:09] <sebsebseb> how much RAM?
[02:09] <L3Tum> But SQUASHFS errors are a cd thing, or do they have to do with the machine?
[02:09] <vip3rousmango> 512mb
[02:09] <deddert> how do i do that dr williis
[02:10] <mamaro> Dr_willis, yes
[02:10] <Dr_willis> mamaro,  many torrent clients can 'watch' a directory and auto-load torrents from them.. set up some shared location, and hafe the client watch - you just save the torrent to that location and away it goes.
[02:10] <mamaro> oh ok.
[02:11] <Dr_willis> mamaro,  at least tahts one way to do it
[02:11] <vip3rousmango> mamaro: azereus (now VUSE) can do that fuction described above
[02:11] <Dr_willis> so can ktorrent, and rtorrent, and utorrent :)
[02:11] <mamaro> Grr. used to love azureus..
[02:12] <vip3rousmango> as do i, i'm not a fan of vuse, I reverted back to the old az
[02:12] <vip3rousmango> but its a solid bt download app
[02:12] <deddert> how do i change the ownership permissions
[02:13] <keres> When i talk into my microphone i can hear my self perfect through the speakers, but when i record myself or use mumble it sounds like a bunch of low pitched static
[02:13] <JesperHansen> deddert: chown username:group
[02:13] <keres> i used arecord and it stilll sounded junky
[02:13] <JesperHansen> deddert: and file or folder last
[02:13] <mamaro> i haven't used it for a few years. but for somereasons downloads would only work if I was in admin mode.
[02:13] <deddert> ? username group
[02:13] <donald> im having a hard time figuring out what i need to install themes
[02:13] <WebcamWonder> !themes | donald
[02:14] <donald> i can find them, just cant figure out how to install them
[02:14] <WebcamWonder> donald: Typically, you only need to drag them into Appearances
[02:14] <donald> sorry should of explained that
[02:14] <donald> ok, nothing else is needed to install?
[02:14] <mamaro> back to work. thank you
[02:14] <Dr_willis> donald,  drag/drop to the theme control panel/customize panel  normally and they get installed.
[02:14] <WebcamWonder> donald: Nope. Either a drag, or use the Install button on the bottom of Appearences
[02:15] <donald> ok i tried that but i will try again
[02:15] <thebloggu> i am trying to run synclient but i get 'Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?' , how can i enable it ? (i already have module "synaptics" loaded and "SHMConfig" "True" in xorg
[02:15] <donald> maybe im doing something wrong
[02:15] <donald> do you extract them?
[02:15] <fakhriz> Hi folks
[02:15] <_VIM_> no
[02:15] <WebcamWonder> donald: Nope. The entire archive, drag that
[02:16] <donald> oh ok
[02:16] <jrib> thebloggu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[02:16] <donald> was trying to drag the theme.desktop file
[02:16] <fakhriz> pls help.. I have troule getting my webcam running ubuntu 8.1
[02:16] <donald> thanks alot
[02:16] <deddert> ?chown username :group and file or folder
[02:16] <WebcamWonder> !who | deddert
[02:17] <deddert> i just need help to unlock my music folders i dragged on from a cdrom
[02:17] <fakhriz> ubuttu: how are you?
[02:17] <deddert> they wont move
[02:17] <Dr_willis> deddert,  you need to 'set the proper permissions'  the lock is just showing they are 'wrong'
[02:18] <deddert> dr willis how do i do that
[02:18] <Dr_willis> deddert,  easiest way to do it is from the terminal with the 'chown' and 'chmod' commands
[02:18] <subpar> anyone want to help out with a simple bash scripting problem?
[02:18] <Dr_willis> sudo chown Yourusername.Yourusername /path/to/the/directory   for starters
[02:18] <WebcamWonder> subpar: We can only help if you ask :)
[02:18] <jrib> subpar: just ask, but #bash may be a better place
[02:18] <fakhriz> usb webcam support please
[02:18] <Guest24349> ls
[02:19] <deddert> sudo chown?
[02:19] <nsadmin> well you can't run chown as anyone but root
[02:19] <subpar> I need to know how to stall the next command in the script so it would run thusly: {command 1} {wait x amount of time} {command 2}
[02:19] <deddert> ns admin i am root
[02:19] <deddert> i think
[02:19] <deddert> i just dont know what chown is
[02:19] <WebcamWonder> subpar: sleep?
[02:19] <deddert> or where the terminal is
[02:20] <nsadmin> man chown befoer you use it then :)
[02:20] <binarymutant> chown is change owner
[02:20] <Dr_willis> deddert,  this is when it pays to read up on the command line and shell ussage in linux
[02:20] <jrib> subpar: command1; sleep amount_of_time; command2
[02:20] <Dr_willis> !terminal | deddert
[02:20] <subpar> yup that's it
[02:20] <subpar> :)
[02:20] <subpar> thank you
[02:20] <binarymutant> ch(ange)own(er)
[02:20] <fakhriz> deddert: chown is to change the owner of the file or folder ..
[02:21] <JesperHansen> HELP! After running fsck on my harddisken _everything_ got thrown into /lost+found, some with the names like #1235435, others with their original name. How do I recover from this state?
[02:21] <binarymutant> now chmod doesn't make sense to me though, ch(ange)mod(ification) ?
[02:21] <donald> ok one more question if you guys dont mind
[02:21] <Dr_willis> change modes
[02:21] <fakhriz> guys
[02:21] <usser> binarymutant, change mode
[02:21] <Nathan_> Hello?
[02:21] <prince_jammys> binarymutant: mode
[02:22] <binarymutant> lol
[02:22] <nsadmin> jello
[02:22] <donald> anyone know of a theme that would be good for a movies theme, changing of the icons, and menu ect..?
[02:22] <binarymutant> thanks
[02:22] <prince_jammys> heh.
[02:22] <donald> i have an elderly gentleman im setting this up for, he is a big classics movie fan
[02:22] <MrGoodkat_> is it possible to make an offline system update?
[02:22] <binarymutant> donald, gnome? gnome-look.org
[02:22] <Nathan_> Does anyone know how to get GRUB bootloader back?
[02:22] <MrGoodkat_> i have no internet connection on my lappi and without an updated kernel i wont get one
[02:22] <fakhriz> I've waste my day googling for a solution for my webcam
[02:23] <donald> binary, yes i looked there
[02:23] <WebcamWonder> donald: Usually, the themes are mutually exclusive when it comes to GTK, and icons. That is why they are classified under different categories on gnome-look. As far as films go, I guess you would have to mix and match
[02:23] <nsadmin> MrGoodkat_: how can you transfer files to it?
[02:23] <WebcamWonder> !webcam | fakhriz
[02:23] <donald> other than transformers, no other movie came up
[02:23] <MrGoodkat_> usb
[02:23] <binarymutant> donald, I don't think anyone can help you look for a theme, it's personal preference
[02:23] <thebloggu> jrib, thanks :)
[02:23] <JesperHansen> Nathan_: throw in a live cd, mount the harddrive, chroot to it, grub-install, reboot.
[02:23] <Nathan_> I did that but to no avial
[02:23] <Nathan_> getting error 15
[02:24] <jhonnyboy> Hello everyone. I have no sound :( I've raised all the bars on the volume control. Don't know what else really that i can do.
[02:24] <JesperHansen> Nathan_: well, I am getting the same error right now.
[02:24] <WebcamWonder> !sound | jhonnyboy
[02:25] <DaveIngram> bash question: how would I rename a number of files at the same time, like xxx1.jpg, xxx2.jpg and xxx3.jpg and I want to replace xxx with yyy?
[02:25] <JesperHansen> Nathan_: Only difference is... All of the harddisk content has been thrown into /lost+found
[02:25] <jhonnyboy> !sound | jhonnyboy
[02:25] <WebcamWonder> DaveIngram: rename supports regex, look into it :)
[02:25] <mikedoty> Hi.  Would it be possible for someone to tar their /usr/share/icons/gnome directory for me?
[02:26] <fakhriz> ubottu: my webcam is supported. it's creative, lsusb -> Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[02:26] <B10S> thats a nice bot there
[02:26] <nsadmin> domo arigato mister ubotto
[02:26] <Nathan_>  no wonder, I am struck with Windows XP and Windows 7 on bootloader without Ubuntu
[02:26] <DaveIngram> WebcamWonder Thanks!
[02:27] <djeff> hi?
[02:27] <fakhriz> ubuttu: but Camorama couldn't connect to video device
[02:27] <WebcamWonder> djeff: hello
[02:28] <djeff> I have a quick question about my installation of php on my ubuntu server
[02:28] <fakhriz> ubuttu: Cheese too
[02:28] <djeff> can you help me ?
[02:28] <WebcamWonder> fakhriz: ubottu is a bot, and is triggered by people on this channel
[02:28] <WebcamWonder> djeff: If you ask your question, I might
[02:28] <jmatrix> help me help you with a silly questio
[02:28] <jmatrix> n
[02:28] <fakhriz> WebcamWonder: ic , thanks
[02:29] <fakhriz> WebcamWonder: could you help please?
[02:29] <WebcamWonder> fakhriz: I have no clue with regards to Webcams. I don't even own one
[02:29] <B10S> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/phpmyadmin why does it say "Not Found" ? says the same with localhost
[02:29] <djeff> In the past I was able to print a php variable that way: <?= $var; ?>, now it's impossible, the variable doesnt print ?
[02:30] <jmatrix> is the default mozilla browser in ubuntu 8.1 supposed to fade out ? I'm running it on a USB stick and for some reason the default browser always fades while browsing... might be the USB delay since its not as fast a disk
[02:30] <jmatrix> like when it is thinking/waiting
[02:30] <Dolo> is there a gui type app I can use for making my own custom ubuntu cd?
[02:30] <jmatrix> for data
[02:30] <donald> im looking now, just wondered
[02:30] <WebcamWonder> jmatrix: The fade will happen when the application is not responding. It is done by the default WM that comes with Ubuntu. And yes, if it is heavily working/waiting for IO, it will, but it shouldn't
[02:31] <donald> only finding things like transformers and die hard
[02:31] <donald> heh
[02:31] <donald> just looking for something classy
[02:31] <WebcamWonder> Dolo: There is an Amazon program on ubuntu as beta. You can try that out if you want to
[02:31] <fakhriz> WebcamWonder: do you hate me ?
[02:31] <Dolo> got a link to it?
[02:31] <WebcamWonder> donald: Making a new theme is surprisingly easy. If you want to create a new set of icons/desktop wallpaper. You can go ahead
[02:31] <WebcamWonder> fakhriz: Why would you say that
[02:31] <jmatrix> thanks for a excellent answer to a silly question. :)
[02:31] <Dolo> Amazon program?
[02:31] <Guest54884> Is there a way to get a higher resolution than 1024 x 768 with 8.10?
[02:31] <jhonnyboy> WebcamWonder: nothing yet with sound :(
[02:32] <Nathan_> tried grub-install
[02:32] <fakhriz> WebcamWonder: coz I need help .. I was help people at university for long time
[02:32] <donald> i guess i could try that
[02:32] <Nathan_> nothing, still getting error 15
[02:32] <JesperHansen> !recover
[02:32] <donald> how do you change the icons??//
[02:32] <WebcamWonder> fakhriz: I know nothing about getting webcams to work with linux
[02:32] <JesperHansen> !ext3
[02:33] <WebcamWonder> donald: Appearance -> Customize your theme -> Icons -> Change it
[02:33] <donald> ok thanks
[02:33] <donald> ill work on that
[02:33] <fakhriz> WebcamWonder: don't you have a webdcam ?  thank you anyway :)
[02:33] <Nathan_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  still no avial
[02:33] <WebcamWonder> fakhriz: I actually really truly don't. And yes, that is THE most asked question from me, given my nick
[02:33] <Nathan_> find /grub/stage1           error 15
[02:34] <Nathan_> find /boot/grub/stage1        error 15
[02:34] <WebcamWonder> Nathan_: ##grub could help you more perhaps
[02:34] <Nathan_> please do
[02:34] <joljam> I really need someone's help I have been trying to create a bootable usb for a long time and I ama having problems.. I am using ubuntu LTS..someone help me please
[02:35] <fakhriz> joljam: 1 min
[02:35] <Dr_willis> joljam,  i find the 'unetbootin' tool comes in handy. it can automate most of it.. Ive also fouind that some machines+usb thumbdrives just dont play nicely and dont always want to boot.
[02:35] <vip3rousmango> joljam: what version of Ubuntu LTS are you using, I believe 8.04.2 has an install to USB feature
[02:36] <fearful> sebsebseb are you there
[02:36] <sebsebseb> fearful: yes
[02:36] <jhonnyboy> Would anyone know why sound isn't working on my system? I have tested my hardware drivers, found my driver name, and all the volume controls on that audio driver are maxed out. Help please
[02:36] <fearful> sebsebseb what level should I put the Intrusion detector level on the router, it was off.. :\
[02:36] <sebsebseb> fearful: depends on the options
[02:37] <Dolo> WebcamWonder:  do you have a link where i can find that program i keep getting amazon.com from searching
[02:37] <joljam> All I am using ubuntu 8.04.02. have tried unetbootin but am not able to install it .. it says some library is missing... i think walking me thru installation of unetbootin will be helpful..
[02:37] <joljam> Dr Willis can u help me
[02:37] <Dr_willis> joljam,  i use unetbooting under windows. or wine normally
[02:38] <Dolo> WebcamWonder: you said theres a amazon app for making custom windows gui
[02:38] <WebcamWonder> Dolo: i think iot is only for servers, http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/features/ec2
[02:38] <Dr_willis> joljam,  check the package manager for the name of the missing library and install it.. perhaps.
[02:38] <Nathan_> ##grub is answering....
[02:38] <WebcamWonder> Dolo: what?
[02:38] <Nathan_> isn't*
[02:38] <fearful> sebsebseb: I just sent you a message
[02:38] <MaxRide> Can anyone tell me why this won't work?: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/Disk Backup -o force
[02:39] <Dr_willis> MaxRide,  do NOT use spaces in mountpoints.. is a very good idea :)
[02:39] <WebcamWonder> MaxRide: Space, escape with \
[02:39] <Dr_willis> MaxRide,  tahts the issue
[02:39] <Dolo> WebcamWonder: I see, i was looking for a way to make a custom ubuntu cd
[02:39] <joljam> Dr Willis:- ./unetbootin-linux-313: error while loading shared libraries: libaudio.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:39] <MaxRide> o_o;  Oh....Thanks both....
[02:39] <MaxRide> Ubuntu told me to use that....I guess it was wrong. =)
[02:39] <Dr_willis> Spaces in filenames = evil :)
[02:39] <fearful> MaxRide it would be /media/Disk\ Backup
[02:39] <Dr_willis> It is using the Volume name of the disk by default.
[02:39] <Dolo> WebcamWonder: like to remove all the bluetooth stuff
[02:40] <Dr_willis> Dont use spaces in Volumenames either. :)
[02:40] <Dolo> WebcamWonder: and other non essencial packages
[02:40] <Nathan_> is ##grub online? because he isn't answering
[02:40] <fakhriz> joljam: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[02:41] <fakhriz> joljam: this is what you need. if you still having problems let me know
[02:42] <Nathan_> a help here?
[02:42] <alicia> how can i boot another user off of an ssh connection?
[02:42] <WebcamWonder> Nathan_: #grub is a channel
[02:43] <joljam> fakhriz:- I used that link.. ... the problems are as follows:- 1. not able to install unetbootin.. 2) problem writing iso file to usb using isotostick
[02:43] <joljam> liveusb doesnot work on my machine
[02:43] <joljam> Dr Willis are u there
[02:44] <Dr_willis> alicia,   as root you could 'kill PID' of their shell.
[02:44] <Dr_willis> joljam,  and this is my fault? :)
[02:44] <fakhriz> joljam: what error you got ?
[02:44] <alicia> Dr_willis: they have access as a super user too
[02:44] <MaxRide> u_u;  For that mount issue....it wouldn't work, so moved it back to windows and unmounted it cleanly....still didn't work...then windows wouldn't mount it anymore (after trying FSCK)...so I said to myself "I'll just format the stupid thing and remake the back-up onto it..."....stuck it back into Ubuntu and it auto-mounted.  u_u;;;
[02:45] <joljam> Dr_willis, fakhriz :- ./unetbootin-linux-313: error while loading shared libraries: libaudio.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:45] <Dr_willis> alicia,  so?   If you want to close a ssh connection. You kill the priocess id of the ssh connection or the shell running on it.  or restart the ssh server. (that may not work, ive not tried that)
[02:46] <alicia> how would i do that?
[02:46] <adante> hi guys when i ping a particular hostname, the ping interval is very slow (it resolves instantaneously though) - but when I ping it by ip it is fast as normal - anybody know what is going on?
[02:46] <Dr_willis> !find libaudio.so.2
[02:46] <viktorkAZ> hello, i need so help.. i need to install some libraries and im unable. apt-get install is not working
[02:46] <Dr_willis> joljam,  looks like its in  libaudio2 package
[02:46] <Dr_willis> !info libaudio2
[02:46] <Fruzen> help me guys
[02:46] <dodelnadio> personne ne parle français,ici?
[02:46] <fearful> Fruzen whats the problem?
[02:46] <fakhriz> Fruzen: what you have?
[02:47] <Fruzen> I want to install BAHAMUT IRCd
[02:47] <joljam> Dr_willis:- can you give me the command line to type.. sorry I am bit of a newbie
[02:47] <Dr_willis> alicia,  find the PID of the other users shell, with the 'ps ax' command , and 'sudo kill PID' to kill it
[02:47] <Fruzen> I did wget.. then tar -xzvf
[02:47] <Fruzen> but when I type tar -xzvf
[02:47] <Dr_willis> joljam,  use the package manager, install  libaudio2, or 'sudo apt-get install libaudio2'
[02:47] <Fruzen> it told me.. tar: Child returned status 1
[02:47] <Fruzen> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[02:48] <dodelnadio> dommage!
[02:48] <Nathan_> Error 15: File not found after trying to do this   find /boot/grub/stage1
[02:48] <Nathan_> I am trying to get GRUB back, help!
[02:48] <joljam> great gentlemen I got it... thanks Dr Willis and fakriz and all
[02:48] <Dr_willis> try find /grub/stage1
[02:49] <vip3rousmango> Nathan_: If you have a copy of the liveCD you should be able to restart with the cd and reinstall grub-loader
[02:49] <soreau> !7.10
[02:50] <Nathan_> I am trying, I am try to figure a way to reinstall GRUB and yes I have live cd
[02:51] <vip3rousmango> Nathan_: One of the options on the liveCD when you boot it up should be to install GRUB Loader, I used it when windows re-wrote my MDR directory on the HDD
[02:51] <mikeshollen> I'm trying to revive an old dell latitude c640 with Ubuntu 8.04.  I attempted to install it with the Live CD and it would freeze once it loaded into the GUI part of the install so some folks suggested I try the Minimal CD.  I did that, and now I'm booted into a prompt.  How do I start the GUI?
[02:51] <[Drake]> when setting up a software raid to be installed on, should i make a swap on each drive or just first drive?)
[02:51] <viktorkAZ> hello can someone help me i cant install some libraries that i need
[02:52] <vip3rousmango> viktorkAZ: what libraries do you need?
[02:52] <Nathan_> Vip3: where options is that? I have live cd 8.10
[02:52] <B10S> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/phpmyadmin says "Not Found" ? says the same with localhost. whats the problem there?
[02:53] <viktorkAZ> vip3rousmango: a couple.. exem. pam, x11-libs, freetype2, jpeg
[02:53] <Jockeo> Can someone explain the difference between a "widget toolkit" (like GTK) and a "compositing window manager" (like Metacity)?
[02:53] <mikeshollen> Does anyone know how to boot the GUI from prompt?
[02:53] <alicia> Dr_willis: how do you know which one?
[02:53] <Dr_willis> Jockeo,  thats like comapring 'bricks' to a 'house'
[02:53] <Dr_willis> alicia,  which one for what?
[02:53] <vip3rousmango> Nathan_: check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 it should answer some questions for you
[02:54] <vip3rousmango> viktorkAZ: search for them in Synaptic Package Manager
[02:54] <B10S> anyone? :(
[02:54] <alicia> which one is the correct pid
[02:54] <Dr_willis> alicia,  not a clue
[02:54] <alicia> Dr_willis: haha thanks
[02:54] <Dr_willis> alicia,  see what commands they are running.. or other info or how long they have been connected
[02:55] <Jockeo> Dr_willis: The reason I ask is that I want to download themes, but at ubuntu-art.org I "must" choose between GTK and Metacity themes. I'm a little confused and don't know which to choose.
[02:55] <Dr_willis> alicia,  theres also the 'pstree' command that may help
[02:55] <alicia> Dr_willis: they are just sitting on there closing the things i have running
[02:55] <alicia> Dr_willis: they are one of my friends
[02:55] <Dr_willis> Jockeo,  gtk = widgits IN the window.. metacity =  window borders
[02:55] <Dr_willis> alicia,  they why not ask them to log off if you want them to leave?
[02:55] <Nathan_> Yes thanks Vip3: but find /boot/grub/stage1 is where it ends there with error 15
[02:55] <Jockeo> Dr_willis: Thanks then I get it.
[02:55] <B10S> no? ok :s
[02:55] <nsadmin> alicia: they are many of your friends :)
[02:55] <alicia> Dr_willis: because i'd have to walk down the hall
[02:56] <Dr_willis> alicia,  Oh the Humanity of it all! egads!@
[02:56] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:56] <Res2216firestar> Hi, my screen resolution won't go to 1024X768, what's going on?
[02:56] <alicia> Dr_willis: and they are just messing with me anyway
[02:56] <Dr_willis> alicia,  reboot :)
[02:56] <vip3rousmango> Nathan_: hmm... I'm not sure what error 15 means, maybe asking around on the forums could reveal an answer? Sorry I can't be of further help :(
[02:56] <alicia> Dr_willis: but i don't want to reboot every time
[02:56] <alicia> Dr_willis: they did this before
[02:57] <Nathan_> Ok thanks anyway
[02:57] <red-lichtie1> (03:52:50) B10S: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/phpmyadmin says "Not Found" ? says the same with localhost. whats the problem there? ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_network
[02:57] <Dr_willis> alicia,  then learn to use pstree,  and ps - I guess. try one.  worse it can do is disconnect the wrong person
[02:57] <Nathan_> I am also getting Crossloop to work on Ubuntu via WINE
[02:57] <B10S> thanks
[02:57] <jrib> alicia: pgrep -u USER
[02:57] <Nathan_> It's isn't working
[02:58] <red-lichtie1> B10S: Maybe you haven't install myphpadmin ?
[02:58] <alicia> jrib: that gave me just a lot of numbers
[02:58] <red-lichtie1> Or restarted your web server after installing it ?
[02:58] <fakhriz> FOLKS, everybody redirecting me to this channel, so I'm not going out untill I got supportd for my webcam to be running proberly
[02:58] <constantine_> hey is there a prog that will put the terminal into right click menu automatically?
[02:59] <B10S> oh, my bad
[02:59] <jasehelp> not that i know of
[02:59] <spirited> Hmmm I'm confused about nVidia drivers for linux/ubuntu... got a good website I could go to?
[02:59] <jrib> alicia: so now your job is to figure out why they are helpful
[02:59] <Fruzen> guys please help me
[02:59] <alicia> jrib: .....
[02:59] <jasehelp> what
[02:59] <B10S> it wasnt intalled!
[02:59] <B10S> lol
[02:59] <Dr_willis> constantine_,  there are some nautilus scripts that add a 'open terminal here'  feature.. but i forget where i saw them at. theres some web suite with a lot of them
[02:59] <B10S> i thought it came with the rest
[02:59] <spirited> erm reading
[02:59] <vip3rousmango> spirited: !info nvidia drivers
[02:59] <alicia> can't i make use of the w command?
[02:59] <constantine_> Dr_willis: thanks I can find it with that info ;)
[02:59] <nsadmin> alicia: yer dribbling!
[03:00] <vip3rousmango> !info nvidia
[03:00] <Dr_willis> constantine_,  google is our friend. :) thats how i fouind it
[03:00] <jrib> alicia: reading doesn't hurt, you know?
[03:00] <viktorkAZ> vip3rousmango: cant found them all in synaptic.. any other idea?
[03:00] <vip3rousmango> !info ati
[03:00] <jasehelp> oh
[03:00] <spirited> !info nvidia drivers
[03:00] <alicia> jrib: i was looking it up
[03:00] <Pici> !nvidia | spirited
[03:00] <Dr_willis> alicia,  # ps ax | grep bash   narrows it down a bit. :) you may hafe to use 'sudo kill -9 PID'
[03:01] <spirited> k, reading
[03:01] <constantine_> Dr_willis: I'm so new that I often find this channel helpful in determining which keywords to use
[03:01] <Fruzen> how can I setup my shell (VPS)
[03:01] <Fruzen> I typed ./config
[03:01] <vip3rousmango> viktorkAZ: search for them in here if you know what they are named using !
[03:01] <fakhriz> guys; usb web cam .. nobody have a webcam ???!!!
[03:01] <red-lichtie1> B10S: it wasnt intalled! LOL :-D
[03:01] <unop_> Dr_willis, you should never have to kill -9 anything really
[03:01] <Dr_willis> constantine_,  nautilus has a scripting feature/directory that gets overlooked/downplayed a lot.   its not too hard to use. but  guess its goo confusing to new users.
[03:01] <vip3rousmango> fakhriz: find an application in add/remove called Cheese its for webcams
[03:01] <nsadmin> fakhriz: I've seen urls being handed to you at least twice
[03:02] <Dr_willis> unop_,  i couldent kill the root users bash shell here without -9 for some reason
[03:02] <B10S> red-lichtie1: sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[03:02] <constantine_> fakhriz, if noone is answering you you should probably try google and come back with what you did/didn't find
[03:02] <Dr_willis> unop_,  i got 2 terminals open. :) trying to kill one user from the other.
[03:02] <jasehelp> has anyone used the ubuntu server edition?
[03:02] <red-lichtie1> B10S: That should work ;)
[03:02] <spirited> So I should not install the proprietary binary/restricted driver because there will be no support?
[03:02] <fakhriz> vip3rousmango: i have Cheese and Camorama installed
[03:02] <B10S> i nevr know how to check the items :o
[03:02] <vip3rousmango> fakhriz: and both don't detect your webcam?
[03:03] <Dr_willis>  kill  2149  dident kill it..   'kill -9 2149' did..  or am i using kill wrong. :)
[03:03] <B10S> so i press enter it proably does stuff i dont want :(
[03:03] <unop_> Dr_willis, maybe you were trying to kill the current shell's PID ..??
[03:03] <fakhriz> msatdmin: they are very old urls !! and they are about what is included in new kernel
[03:03] <UnstableIsotope> hey, can i copy then hex from a blank dvd to one from the same package that has stuff on it and then get an empty one, just as if it was new?
[03:03] <Dr_willis> unop_,  Yep. :) thats why.
[03:03] <alicia> i'm not sure that's working...
[03:03] <nsadmin> fakhriz: the kernel is what supports hardware
[03:04] <Dr_willis> trying to figure out how ti get the current shells PID.. so  i can tell it from the other shell
[03:04] <unop_> Dr_willis, ahh, well, why doesn't 'exit' work then? :)  kill -9 just left the shell's temp files, sockets, memory allocations, children, etc all hanging - not good
[03:04] <fakhriz> vip3rousmango : unfortuantely no
[03:04] <red-lichtie1> B10S: apt should only install stuff it needs, this isn't windoze
[03:04] <Dr_willis> unop_,  virtualbox here.. so it dosent matter. :)  just a test machine
[03:04] <alicia> Dr_willis: it seems to be taking a really long time
[03:04] <constantine_> command for auto opening terminal : sudo aptitude install nautilus-open-terminal for those who like that type of thing...
[03:05] <B10S> red-lichtie1: try it and see
[03:05] <Dr_willis> constantine_,  then that web site has that and many more scripts :) if you are into scripts
[03:05] <rj_> hi all
[03:05] <jaxx2kde> Hi, I want to install the B43 drivers for my broadcom bcm4311 wireless card.. is their a step by step tutorial i can follow
[03:05] <rj_> i need help
[03:05] <B10S> you get options
[03:05] <jaxx2kde> thaks
[03:05] <vip3rousmango> fakhriz: Is your webcam linux compatible?..
[03:05] <Dr_willis> jaxx2kde,  i just installed the b43-fwcutter package.. and it did it.
[03:05] <rj_> !help
[03:05] <Dr_willis> bye all
[03:05] <constantine_> Dr_willis: I don't know what a script is or how to use one
[03:06] <nsadmin> rj_: there's a drug store right around the corner... they also sell alcohol... that help?
[03:06] <jaxx2kde> Dr_willis sweet can you show me how?
[03:06] <rj_> can anyone guide me
[03:06] <fakhriz> vip3rousmango: Cheese: No camera found, Camorama: couldn't connect to video device /dev/video0
[03:06] <vip3rousmango> fakhriz: if its a windows webcam ie: needs propriatary drivers, its probably not going to work with linux
[03:06] <fakhriz> vip3usmango: lsusb -> vip3rousmango
[03:06] <endeavormac> libssl-dev is the openssl libraries, right?
[03:06] <nsadmin> rj_: try asking a question... try being specific informative concise and complete
[03:06] <red-lichtie1> B10S: Why ?
[03:07] <fakhriz> vip3rousmango: sorry: lsusb ->  Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[03:07] <B10S> red-lichtie1: theres options to choose from
[03:07] <jasehelp> ok
[03:07] <jasehelp> ok
[03:07] <rj_> anyone guide me how to install joomla
[03:07] <rj_> coz joomla php,mysql and apache
[03:07] <B10S> i dont know how to select them, i pressed enter i i think it installed the lot
[03:07] <spirited> k must restart
[03:08] <fakhriz> ip3rousmango:  the driver is included in the kernel
[03:08] <UnstableIsotope> anyone know of a good hex editor for ubuntu?
[03:08] <nsadmin> do you have php mysql and apache working?
[03:08] <fakhriz> rj_: sure
[03:08] <rj_> nope
[03:08] <rj_> thats y i need guideness
[03:08] <ferric84> i'm trying to use the theme bluman-clearlooks but when I select it it says i need the gtk2-engine-clearlooks installed.  but when I try to install it it says  i have gtk2-engine installed already.  what should i do?
[03:09] <dorcas> !vadi Liz Andrews & Lena Matthews - Lily's Surrender [pdf].rar
[03:09] <red-lichtie1> B10S: Read http://www.phpmyadmin.net/ then answer the questions, this isn't a phpmyadmin chat.
[03:09] <fakhriz> rj_: you want to install joomla locally ?
[03:09] <vip3rousmango> fakhriz: no support for hardware is found in the kernel, if its not their it doesn't get support
[03:09] <rj_> yess
[03:09] <B10S> red-lichtie1: ok :)
[03:10] <this_justy_guy> rj_: Have you checked https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Joomla  ?
[03:10] <fakhriz> vip3rousmango: how to check if the driver installed correctly ?
[03:10] <fakhriz> rj_: go for xampp
[03:10] <red-lichtie1> fakhriz: If ir works, then its installed correctly
[03:10] <Flannel> fakhriz: There's absolutely no reason to use xampp in Ubuntu
[03:11] <jaxx2kde> Hi, I want to install the B43 drivers for my broadcom bcm4311 wireless card.. is their a step by step tutorial i can follow
[03:11] <fakhriz> Flannel: how come?
[03:11] <rj_> pl
[03:11] <rj_> ok
[03:11] <poet> does anyone know if the opengl man mages are availible in 8.10?
[03:11] <fakhriz> rj_: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html#374
[03:11] <Flannel> fakhriz: Because package management removes any point of xampp
[03:11] <rj_> but wher i need to download this xampp