[01:49] <mup> PR snapcraft#3954 closed: linters: add help urls <Created by mr-cal> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3954>
[11:45] <mup> PR core20#138 opened: writable-paths: add /etc/tmpfiles.d for systemd-tmpfiles configs <Created by alexmurray> <https://github.com/snapcore/core20/pull/138>
[12:03] <MrBurns> Hi, I installed telegraph using snap but it is not found. I tried removing and reinstalling with snap.. I used this guide ( https://snapcraft.io/install/telegraf/manjaro ). Telegraf is not found after installing. I tried installing the hello-world with snap and it works fine..
[12:13] <MrBurns> Problem solved. Had to manually create telegraf symlink to /snap/bin


[04:42] <nhandler> Did we ever make any progress on that ubuntunews twitter account?
[17:09] <pleia2> nhandler: not that I'm aware of, I am hoping canonical will put up a feed redirect once we sort out the new fridge so it's not an issue
[17:11] <pleia2> nhandler: are you available this weekend? I'm wondering if we can pull together a less-than-perfect issue of UWN to do some year end wrap up, this past week I've heard a lot of complaints about the UWN being gone
[17:12] <pleia2> I don't know how to do it perfectly, but with akgraner's notes I'm sure we can muddle through well enough :)
[17:13] <nhandler> pleia2: I'm not going to be around a ton tomorrow. I'm around until about 7 tnoight and all of Sunday though.
[17:13] <nhandler> pleia2: We could definitely get something out. The hard part is the summaries, but we could always go with short (1-2 sentence summaries) if necessary
[17:13] <pleia2> I'm heading over to a local school to do some 8.04 upgrades and general triaging all day, but sat and sun are free for me
[17:14] <nhandler> pleia2: Great. How far back do you think we should go? All the way back to when the last issue came out? The past week?
[17:14] <pleia2> nhandler: I think we start with this past week, then cherry pick big news since the last issue - maybe include all membership announcements since last one, all security updates
[17:15] <nhandler> pleia2: Sounds good. I'll try and get a template up now. I just need to find that checklist wiki page akgraner made a while ago
[17:15] <pleia2> nhandler: I'll start collecting links tonight and tomorrow, maybe sunday we get together and grab people to write summaries and pull it together
[17:15] <pleia2> I'll write some summaries saturday too
[17:15]  * nhandler hugs pleia2
[17:15]  * pleia2 hugs nhandler
[17:15] <pleia2> :)
[17:17] <pleia2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies
[17:18] <nhandler> Yep, just found it :)
[17:19] <nhandler> pleia2: Should we just use Issue218 (unreleased) ?
[17:19] <pleia2> nhandler: yeah, I think so
[17:19] <pleia2> that way people won't think they missed an issue
[17:24] <pleia2> ok, off to the school, here's hoping the LTS upgrades go well and everything is shiny by 5PM, the kiddos come back to school on monday
[17:26] <nhandler> Have fun pleia2
[17:55] <nhandler> pleia2: I just skimmed my planet ubuntu feed and added a bunch of links for December to http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/UWN-Ideas (roughly in reverse chronological order)
[17:59] <nhandler> I'll go through and try and clean it up a little later
[23:47] <pleia2> nhandler: cool, thanks nhandler
[23:47] <pleia2> I'm going to go through the ubuntu-news-teams submissions since the last issue now
[23:55] <nhandler> Great


[17:54] <xu-help94w> hi guys, i am installing xubuntu on my GFs slow laptop, i can select to install, then xubuntu logo and file checking. after that i have screen with background for a while but after that black screen. can you help me? I have tried legacy support in bios with no avail.
[18:22] <diogenes_> !nomodeset
[18:23] <diogenes_> xu-help94w, try that ^^^
[18:23] <xu-help94w> thanks, i am going to try
[18:42] <xu-help94w> that did not help. i also got "integrity: problem loading x.509 certificate -65" and "usb 1-4: device descriptor read/64, error -110"
[18:43] <tomreyn> xu-help94w: disable "secure boot" in bios
[18:43] <tomreyn> and disconnect any usb devices you don't strictly require
[18:45] <tomreyn> if the usb error still occurs, re-do the installer usb, it is broken (either physically broken usb mass storage media, or bad/flaky connector / cable, or just a bad write of the iso image)
[18:46] <tomreyn> to prevent bad iso image writes, verify the downloaded .iso image checksum against the location you downloaded it from. and then, and verify the data was properly written to the usb storage.
[18:46] <tomreyn> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/75483/how-to-check-if-the-iso-was-written-to-my-usb-stick-without-errors
[18:47] <tomreyn> or, if that's too technical, write the iso using the "balena etcher" software instead (available on all major OS), it will verify the data written by default.
[18:53] <xu-help94w> thanks. i believe that the download is ok, but the usb is just cheap aliexpress one. however, it looked fine before with movies etc. i am going to update the bios first and then i will try balena, or different distro. or maybe i will try the usb on my laptop


[00:31] <slidesinger_lt> I'm looking all over for a minimal network install image and cannot find one. I intend to install 18.04. Does such an image exist?
[00:31] <wxl> !mini
[00:31] <wxl> it's not a "lubuntu" image but an "ubuntu" one from which you can install whatever you want, i.e. lubuntu-desktop
[00:32] <slidesinger_lt> Thanks.
[00:32] <wxl> yup
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[01:09] <wxl> there's no way to send anonymous messages
 but you send message as lubuntu bridge bot
[02:06] <kc2bez> We have a bridge between IRC and telegram.
 @devikri [How to send message as anonymous like the other ?], use irc
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[02:19] <kc2bez> They were booted
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[02:20] <kc2bez> ^ Yes, I stand corrected.
 may i ask some thing ?
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 (Photo, 713x475) https://i.imgur.com/141i0hm.jpg anyone know how to fix this?
 @devikri [<reply to image>], my wifii connected but it cant used
 Here is a link to an askubuntu forum question that may be related: https://askubuntu.com/questions/210451/what-does-ping-sendmsg-no-buffer-space-available-mean
 @kc2bez [Here is a link to an askubuntu forum question that may be related: https://askub …], owh okay thx, it seems my hardware doesnt supported
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[00:29] <mwhudson> vorlon: hmm
[00:33] <mwhudson> why is it so hard to find which isa an arm instruction belongs to!
[00:34] <mwhudson> i think that's a vfpv3 insn? so should be ok by default?
[00:48] <mwhudson> hmm seems to be vfp so should be ok
[00:51] <mwhudson> vorlon: i find all this stuff very confusing fwiw
[00:55] <mwhudson> whyyy does the cross compiler (arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc-11) default to -mfloat-abi=soft?
[01:06] <vorlon> mwhudson: so is it a bug in gcc that it's not being allowed by default?
[01:06] <mwhudson> vorlon: i don't know :/
[01:06] <vorlon> heh
[01:06] <vorlon> doko: hi there ^^
[01:06] <sarnold> iirc debian still has an armel release and that default may make more sense there
[01:06] <mwhudson> vorlon: yeah, see if you can get doko to explain it to you, then explain it to me :)
[01:07] <mwhudson> ah ffs
[01:07] <mwhudson> had the build failing in canonistack but erased the wrong schroot session :(
[01:23] <mwhudson> vorlon: it looks like as has a syntax for declaring in the .S file which fpu should be targeted
[01:26] <mwhudson> vorlon: this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wM3np3Wsbp/ seems to work for this file at least...
[01:27] <mwhudson> i don't know if that is "correct" though
[01:28] <mwhudson> i'll see if it lets the build finish at least :)
[01:31] <mwhudson> vorlon: relevant https://github.com/supertuxkart/stk-code/issues/4638
[08:48] <seb128> LocutusOfBorg, hey, for universe packages we rather add them to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lto-disabled-list/ instead of adding delta to disable lto I think
[08:55] <schopin> Hi! I'm trying to figure out why glew isn't migrating, and it seems to be caused by this package : https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/open3d/jammy/amd64
[08:56] <schopin> Anyone know why the tests are "neutral" and not plain OK ?
[09:01] <ginggs> schopin: it's "neutral" because it only has superficial tests
[09:04] <schopin> I'm afraid I fail to see the point of differenciating superficial tests vs the "normal" ones. Aren't we just interested in failures anyway?
[09:04] <ginggs> in debian, a package is blocked if a superficial test fails, and it doesn't get quick migratation.  i don't think it makes a difference in ubuntu
[09:05] <ginggs> *it doesn't get quick migratation if it passes
[09:05] <schopin> Oh, OK. If a superficial test fails it's the old "10-days and no RC" rule.
[09:06] <ginggs> if a superficial test regresses, the package cannot migrate
[09:07] <ginggs> if a package only has superficial tests, it can only migrate after 5 days
[09:12] <schopin> Do they also test rdeps or is it just a Ubuntu thing?
[09:15] <ginggs> they also test rdeps
[09:29] <ginggs> schopin: btw, glew is not migrating because of the "not considered" packages, like pymol
[09:29] <schopin> yeah, figured that out in the meantime :)
[09:29] <ginggs> the autopkgtests results are listed under Additional info
[09:38] <doko> mwhudson, arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc-11 is the soft-float compiler ... you may want to use arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc-11 ...
[09:39] <doko> mwhudson, vorlon: the fpu flags, plus other extension flags are going away. extensions now need to be encoded in the architecture string, e.g. -arch=armv7-a+fp
[13:41] <LocutusOfBorg> seb128, I don't add to that list, because packages won't ever be removed from there :D
[13:41] <LocutusOfBorg> the reason for disabling lto is a gcc bug, and the gcc fix is already pending review on gcc list
[13:41] <LocutusOfBorg> so, once accepted, the package will be syncable again with no extra delta
[13:41] <seb128> k
[13:41] <LocutusOfBorg> if we add to that list, it won't use lto "forever" because (I) won't care to check if the lto delta is needed or not
[13:41] <seb128> I disagree with the initial statement though
[13:42] <LocutusOfBorg> how can we know? my approach is usually "sync first, prepare the merge, upload if the sync fails to build"
[13:42] <seb128> the archive shouldn't act as your personal todolist at the cost of creating work for the project
[13:42] <seb128> having to merge packages has a cost
[13:43] <LocutusOfBorg> sure, but I usually upstream the delta to debian, and try to have gcc bugs fixed whenever possible
[13:43] <LocutusOfBorg> and this is one case I checked before disabling lto
[13:43] <seb128> yes, that's fine, I was just arguing against the 'delta is better than blacklisting because it's more visible to LocutusOfBorg'
[13:44] <LocutusOfBorg> doko, if you want to care about this patch https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=102059
[13:44] <LocutusOfBorg> seb128, I could have wrote that sentence really in a better way :)
[13:44] <seb128> :-)
[13:44] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks for the hint about that list, I wasn't aware since today :D
[13:45] <seb128> anyway, I didn't mean to argue about that, I was just pointing out the backlist package in case you did'nt know about it
[13:45] <seb128> yw!
[13:45] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks for that, I hope one day lto will be default in Debian too, and in the meanwhile ppc64el specific bugs will be something fixed
[13:46] <LocutusOfBorg> doko, ^^^ should we prod that patch? its 2 months old
[18:11] <schopin> Is it a good/bad idea to send an apport bug report when a program uses Python exceptions as its user-facing error reporting mechanism? e.g. gbp couldn't find d/changelog and notified me via an exception, which made apport mad.
[18:28] <vorlon> doko: right; the question from my side was, is it a gcc bug that this instruction was not accepted without manually passing such an argument
[18:29] <vorlon> ginggs, schopin: wrt glew, I'm currently holding back no-change rebuilds for the libpoppler transition because the two would be entangled via gambas3
[18:50] <seb128> vorlon, I didn't test every rdepends but at least extractpdfmark, gdcm, xpdf and pdf2djvu need code fixes for the new poppler. Or said differently best to not throw untested no change rebuilds to the archive
[18:51] <vorlon> seb128: if they need code changes but the problem is not caught by either build time tests or autopkgtests, I argue the bug is not in the throwing no-change rebuilds at the archive ;)
[18:52] <vorlon> anyway, 'sfine, glew isn't moving yet - I was mostly meaning to caution other people not to do no-change uploads for poppler until glew has cleared
[18:52] <seb128> vorlon, I'm rather seeing that as 'what's the point throwing things that will fail to build to the archive'
[18:52] <vorlon> seb128: one point is that it makes it more obvious from looking at update_excuses and the state of proposed what work needs to be done
[18:52] <seb128> unless you consider the archive as a test build env ;)
[18:54] <seb128> sort of I guess, without upload you know what packages need work though, just you don't know if that's a rebuild or more. but the same way a build failure isn't going to tell you if the fix is easy or not...
[19:01] <LocutusOfBorg> bryyce, hello, what about syncpackage -f php8.1?
[19:32] <ddstreet> slyon re: https://code.launchpad.net/~slyon/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+git/systemd/+merge/411528 I'd rather not revert that as it does cause real problems of leaking scopes/sessions that have real impacts on users, epecially those using k8s on bionic
[19:33] <ddstreet> the lp:#1949089 bug seems to be an issue of the snap mount unit being restarted (or stopped/started) during a daemon-reload, is that right?
[19:39] <vorlon> juliank: request.cgi seems to not be answering
[19:39] <juliank> vorlon: looking
[19:40] <juliank> vorlon: so it sent to me SSO successfully but hangs now
[19:41] <juliank> vorlon: i see several hanging processes
[19:41] <juliank> (request.cgi ones)
[19:41] <vorlon> at least 3 are mine ;)
[19:42] <juliank> [Tue Nov 09 19:38:43.744034 2021] [cgi:warn] [pid 2692518] [client <IP_ADDRESS>:56674] AH01220: Timeout waiting for output from CGI script /var/lib/juju/agents/unit-autopkgtest-web-1/charm/webcontrol/request.cgi, referer: https://people.canonical.com/
[19:43] <juliank> vorlon: hmm no gdb on the machine, would installing it mess stuff up?
[19:43] <vorlon> I don't believe it would
[19:43] <juliank> Basically it hangs in a recvfrom()
[19:43] <vorlon> but also maybe you just need to restart rabbit
[19:44] <juliank> most likely yes
[19:44] <juliank> restart started
[19:45] <juliank> not sure if it will restart :D
[19:46] <juliank> vorlon: yup, that did the trick
[19:46] <juliank> should setup monthly service restart timer
 if you'd like, that'd be fine, just doublecheck the -mfpu=vfpv3-d16 fix we did for ubuntu2 is included
[19:50] <juliank> cpu usage on rabbitmq is now much nicer
[19:51] <LocutusOfBorg> bryyce,    * Disable Zend fiber asm on armhf (FTBFS)
[19:51] <LocutusOfBorg> this is the changelog in debian.
[19:51] <LocutusOfBorg> I suspect they didn't include the vfpv3 change and disabled the feature?
[19:53] <LocutusOfBorg> do you think we should ask debian to add again the feature and the armhf flag?
[19:56] <LocutusOfBorg> bryyce, I asked here https://salsa.debian.org/php-team/php/-/commit/016bd26c99b6f3e0c02d56ac915069808d4463c1
[20:10] <mwhudson> doko: oh yes, how could i possible get confused by arm triplets!!
[20:16] <bryyce> LocutusOfBorg, interesting -- is debian's "armhf" different from ubuntu's "armhf"?
[20:19] <bryyce> LocutusOfBorg, well, worst case we can re-patch our change if needed.  Only thing I'm a bit worried about is if it disrupts the transition's progress
[20:23] <bryyce> sergiodj, you were the one that figured out -mfpu=vfpv3-d16 to get php8.1 passing for us; can you take a peek at https://salsa.debian.org/php-team/php/-/commit/016bd26c99b6f3e0c02d56ac915069808d4463c1?
[20:26] <sergiodj> bryyce: looking
[20:29] <mwhudson> doko: so is http://launchpadlibrarian.net/567930383/supertuxkart_1.3+dfsg1-2_1.3+dfsg1-2ubuntu1.diff.gz the right sort of thing to do or wrong headed? would .arch armv7-a+fp be better?
[20:43] <sergiodj> bryyce: left a comment there, hopefully it's helpful
[20:43] <bryyce> @sergiodj, thanks!
[20:45] <bryyce> LocutusOfBorg, ok so let's hold on syncing the newer php8.1 for now, hopefully we can get through more of the transition with the rc4, as discussion continues on the armhf solution.
[20:49] <mwhudson> well https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#h5py is pretty angry
[20:49] <mwhudson> i think it's uninstallable packages mostly though?
[21:45] <slingamn> i'm looking into making a change to system-config-printer, specifically to how it makes http requests
[21:45] <slingamn> but i'm not sure about the relationship between the ubuntu package and this upstream: https://github.com/OpenPrinting/system-config-printer
[21:47] <slingamn> should i send the patch to upstream and then try to have it pulled back in by ubuntu?
[21:48] <dbungert> slingamn: generally that's preferable
[21:49] <slingamn> makes sense...is there a reason the launchpad repo has an incompatible git history? the commit messages say "Imported using git-ubuntu import."
[21:53] <rbasak> slingamn: git-ubuntu provides a unified git history for every package in Ubuntu that is imported (it's planned to eventually import them all). Regardless of whether Debian and/or upstream even use git or not. You don't have to use that view though.
[21:54] <slingamn> oh...is there an alternative git history available from launchpad that has the ubuntu packaging metadata and patches if applicable, but is based on upstream's git history?
[21:54] <mwhudson> slingamn: not in general no
[21:54] <slingamn> coo
[21:54] <slingamn> *cool
[21:55] <mwhudson> having said that, i have plenty of repos that have both the ubuntu import and upstream as remotes
[21:55] <mwhudson> cherry-pick and rebase don't care whether commits have shared ancestry after all
[21:56] <rbasak> Right - just add both remotes and then "git diff" works. I'm not sure I understand a use case that actually requires the upstream to be the commit ancestor.
[21:56] <rbasak> And like you say, you can just rebase to temporarily see that view.
[21:57] <rbasak> It's not possible to do universally for all packages because of various mismatches that are common along the way. For example upstream tarball releases, upon which packaging is often based, often is different from the contents of their own git trees.
[22:00] <mwhudson> rbasak: do you have any feel for how much disk space all the current imported branches take?
[22:00] <sarnold> eg https://github.com/erthink/libmdbx#never-use-tarballs-nor-zips-automatically-provided-by-github-
[22:22] <rbasak> mwhudson: that's more of a question for the Launchpad admins, sorry.
[22:22] <mwhudson> rbasak: fair enough
[22:22] <mwhudson> i wonder about mirroring them all locally, probably don't have a big enough hd for that yet :)
[22:22] <rbasak> There's work in progress to migrate to bigger disks. Currently the server storing the git repos is I'm told nearly full.
[22:23] <sarnold> I've also wodnered about storing them all locally ;)
[22:23] <rbasak> I'd really like someone to write a caching git proxy
[22:23] <rbasak> Being content addressed, this should be possible
[22:23] <rbasak> Then I wouldn't need a full local mirror but would benefit from packages I clone frequently without having to manage the local copies myself.
[22:25] <mwhudson> sarnold: well obviously you would be thinking about that ;-p
[22:25] <mwhudson> rbasak: for me it's more for the random packages i hit on +1 week
[22:25] <mwhudson> cloning is slow for me, thanks to latency if nothing else
[22:25] <rbasak> I think maybe it's not your distance and cloning is slow for everyone :)
[22:26] <cjwatson> We don't store repository sizes in our DB at the moment, so I don't have a straightforward way to answer that disk space question.
[22:29] <cjwatson> Disk migration (and indeed full service migration) is tomorrow morning, assuming all goes well ...
[22:30] <sarnold> \o/ good luck :D
[22:48] <mwhudson> rbasak: well it doesn't help :)
[23:24] <mwhudson> what do failures like this mean<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:24] <keyke> yo
[23:24] <keyke> sup
[23:42] <sarnold> mwhudson: hah, did it really fall over due to this? /usr/bin/which: this version of `which' is deprecated; use `command -v' in scripts instead.
[23:49] <mwhudson> sarnold: well i hope not
[23:49] <mwhudson> sarnold: current guess it that the extract is ooming or something
[23:51] <sarnold> mwhudson: hmm looking at it again I see this right at the top where it's easy to overlook tee: /proc/self/fd/2: Permission denied
[23:52] <mwhudson> sarnold: don't all armhf autopkgtest runs have that?
[23:52] <sarnold> if *thats* the cause it'd sure be nice if it fell over way sooner :) but .. it's kinda thin on why it failed :(
[23:52] <sarnold> heh, dunno :(
[23:52] <mwhudson> this one passed and has the same message<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:55] <sarnold> oh nice, thanks
[23:55] <mwhudson> argl bargl this package no longer builds on armhf
[23:55] <rbasak> mwhudson: I wonder if you could comment on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2021-November/019099.html please?
[23:56] <mwhudson> oh yeah that's something we should do but i have no idea how to :(
[23:56] <mwhudson> rbasak: i'll try to get something like that into a ticket at least
[23:59] <mwhudson> i am somewhat distressed to find that there are packages in ubuntu called "eckit" and "fckit"
[23:59] <mwhudson> someone thought they were being witty
[23:59] <mwhudson> (no dckit or gckit though, thankfully)


[11:47] <udi86> today I have problems uploading to the cloud, it doesn't work with either nautilus or the web interface. anybody else having problems?
[12:16] <ManoloMtnez> Hello
[12:16] <ManoloMtnez> UbuntuOne is having problems syncing one of my flies
[12:16] <ManoloMtnez> The problem is, it's unable to connect
[12:17] <ManoloMtnez> in syncdaemon.log i see lots of:
[12:17] <ManoloMtnez>  ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.ActionQueue - WARNING - Client mismatch while processing the request 'oauth_authenticate', client
[12:17] <ManoloMtnez> Any advice? Thanks!
[12:44] <duanedesign> hello ManoloMtnez
[12:44] <ManoloMtnez> duanedesign: hi
[12:45] <duanedesign> i think i might know what your issue is....
[12:45] <ManoloMtnez> duanedesign: cool :)
[12:49] <duanedesign> let me see
[12:58] <ManoloMtnez> duanedesign: still there?
[13:07] <ManoloMtnez> duanedesign: hey, I have to leave now. I appreciate your willingness to help. Maybe later I'll connect  and post my question again. Cheers
[14:06] <udi86> I have the same error which ManoloMtnez had, client mismatch, syncdaemon.log: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/618299/
[16:01] <mongy> file sync is broke.  wont start
[16:06] <SuprEngr> Hi folks. Any news update on the slow file sync?  Status info update ways a wee while back stating 'it's being sorted'.  [upload sys=Lucid,download sys =UNR 11.04, U1 free 2gGB a/c]
[16:06] <SuprEngr> *was
[17:31] <czajkowski> stuff broken on u1?
[17:31] <czajkowski> cant access my files from web
[17:34] <czajkowski> http://twitpic.com/56wtv3
[17:35] <karni> czajkowski: same here
[17:36] <czajkowski> dont see any bugs open though
[17:56] <dobey> there is a server issue it seems, and most all the u1 team is travelling today
[18:06] <czajkowski> dobey: but the wiki page of status is not reflecting the issue
[18:12] <dobey> czajkowski: ok. well then hopefully someone will get on-line and update it soon. nearly everyone is travelling right now, so it may take a bit for that to happen. and i'm only on here because i had to do a couple things on-line before travelling
[19:50] <ManoloMtnez> Hello everyone
[19:51] <ManoloMtnez> my U1 client is in a loop of trying to sync and giving up
[19:52] <ManoloMtnez> in the syncdaemon log i see some:
[19:52] <ManoloMtnez> WARNING - Client mismatch while processing the request 'oauth_authenticate', client
[19:52] <ManoloMtnez> any advice? Thanks!
[20:27] <mushy> I signed up for ubuntu one, it did say i was connected in the prefs, and listed my account info, then i go to documents and sync it and it is under 2gb. so i look at the prefs and now it lists no account info or wont stay connected, and the check box for syncing in docs is just spinning
[20:27] <mushy> help is what i am asking for
[20:30] <mushy> seriously?


[00:02] <wyoung> oehman: I am
[00:29] <isapgswell> why not ubuntu software uses swap?
[00:29] <isapgswell> here is too slow when click on category
[00:32] <isapgswell> loading image apps and description is too slow
[00:32] <sarnold> do you have spinning metal, ssd, or nvme drives?
[00:34] <isapgswell> sarnold m2 ssd
[00:35] <isapgswell> sarnold any hint?
[00:38] <tomreyn> isapgswell: how much ram does this system have, which ubuntu release and desktop variant (default = gnome3) are you running?
[00:39] <tomreyn> what amkes you say that the system does not use swap?
[00:40] <tomreyn> oh you're saying that the "ubuntu software" application does not repond to user input as swiftly as you expect.
[00:40] <tomreyn> that's probably not realted to swapping,t hough
[00:42] <isapgswell> tomreyn yes, ubuntu software do not respond to user input as swiftly as i expect
[00:42] <isapgswell> tomreyn too slow after i click on category for example
[00:43] <isapgswell> tomreyn 32GB ram, ubuntu 20.04.2 gnome shell
[00:45] <isapgswell> tomreyn 240Mbps link connection
[00:45] <tomreyn> isapgswell: i have very little experience with this software, can't really comment. if you can get used to it, working with "apt" (and "snap", if you want) in a terminal can be a lot faster.
[00:46] <isapgswell> tomreyn yes
[00:46] <tomreyn> i think "ubuntu software" is a snap itself, though, which could have an impact on how fast it feels.
[00:47] <sarnold> is it? if so that's probably related
[00:47] <isapgswell> tomreyn i think you're right. in my opinion for the begginner users it's relevant
[00:48] <isapgswell> tomrey recent users dont care about command line apt snap commands
[00:49] <isapgswell> tomreyn and ubuntu's purpose is user friendly
[00:50] <tomreyn> isapgswell: i'm not an ubuntu developer, there's no use in discussing this with me. there's #ubuntu-discuss for discussions
[00:51] <tomreyn> (but don't expect discussions had there to carry into ubuntu development either)
[00:53] <isapgswell> tomreyn ok
[02:02] <bumblefuzz> so, I just set up a fresh ubuntu linode
[02:02] <bumblefuzz> first admin task was to enable the firewall
[02:03] <bumblefuzz> yet, remotely, nmap shows port 53 open
[02:03] <bumblefuzz> and using dig, the linode returns DNS requests
[02:03] <bumblefuzz> how is port 53 open on a fresh ubuntu install with ufw enabled and no other changes?
[02:08] <sarnold> what server was installed on it to answer?
[02:09] <bumblefuzz> not sure I understand your phrasing
[02:09] <bumblefuzz> the remote server was ubuntu 20.04
[02:09] <bumblefuzz> the local machine is also ubuntu
[02:11] <tomreyn> chances are this is a multi chain setup
[02:11] <tomreyn> i.e. docker or similar
[02:12] <bumblefuzz> ok but what does that mean in terms of port 53?
[02:12] <tomreyn> i think ufw only blocks on the INPUT chain
[02:12] <tomreyn> + output if you change its policy on that
[02:13] <sarnold> bumblefuzz: there's something like a dozen different DNS servers for authoritative, recursive, forwarders, stub, etc. I'm curious which one was on the system and answering queries
[02:13] <bumblefuzz> but input on port 53 is what should be blocked by UFW...unless I open it
[02:13] <tomreyn> i.e. if you have forward chains, or yet more separate chains, then your rules take no effect
[02:13] <tomreyn> ...on those
[02:13] <bumblefuzz> `netstat -nlp | grep 53` only shows systemd
[02:14] <bumblefuzz> this is a stock ubuntu linode with ufw enabled, nothing else
[02:14] <bumblefuzz> port 53 shouldn't be open
[02:14] <bumblefuzz> and it's not only open, it's responding to DNS requests
[02:14] <tomreyn> can you show    sudo iptables -L
[02:16] <tomreyn> and tell us how you're testing
[02:17] <bumblefuzz> nmap remote_ip
[02:17] <bumblefuzz> and dig @remote_ip www.somesite.com
[02:17] <bumblefuzz> I can't copy the pastebinit links
[02:17] <bumblefuzz> dunno how to get this over to you guys
[02:18] <bumblefuzz> one sec... lemme get a VPN installed and ssh in
[02:22] <DumbLDoor> Hi! I have had multiple 21.04 system crashes with a browser that worked perfectly with 20.10
[02:22] <DumbLDoor> Gool Gorrilla, terrible Hippo !!
[02:25] <sarnold> DumbLDoor: omg I just now got your nickname..
[02:26] <bumblefuzz> @tomreyn https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KrGH4ZdcRg/
[02:27] <amosbird_> sarnold: cool
[02:27] <sarnold> amosbird_: well, I talked with DumbLDoor for who knows how long a few days ago and never caught on.. heh
[02:30] <bumblefuzz> there's nothing here that indicates port 53 should be open
[02:31] <DumbLDoor> Sarnold: ?
[02:32] <DumbLDoor> !
[02:32] <DumbLDoor> Anyone else uses Palemoon browser?
[02:37] <tomreyn> bumblefuzz: i can't tell from this output, sorry.
[02:41] <bumblefuzz> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kMnzMZmj6C/
[02:41] <bumblefuzz> ss shows port 53 only listening on localhost
[02:41] <bumblefuzz> so, why is it accessible from the internet
[02:41] <bumblefuzz> ?
[02:42] <bumblefuzz> ufw shows it's closed
[02:42] <tomreyn> ipv6?
[02:42] <bumblefuzz> how can I check that?
[02:42] <tomreyn> specify the ipv6 address rather than the ipv4 address (or FQDN) when testing
[02:42] <bumblefuzz> and these addresses are <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:42] <bumblefuzz> that's ipv4
[02:42] <bumblefuzz> yeah, it doesn't have an ipv6 address
[02:43] <bumblefuzz> linode only gives of an ipv4
[02:43] <bumblefuzz> gives me*
[02:43] <enyc> bumblefuzz: I thought linode are IPv6-enabled too...
[02:43] <enyc> bumblefuzz: check 'ip -6 addr' and 'ip -6 ro' ...
[02:44] <enyc> NB: ignore fe80: (link-local) addresses in the ip -6 addr  list
[02:45] <bumblefuzz> you're correct
[02:45] <tomreyn> about your ss output: <IP_ADDRESS> is the local address, but it shows the service does listen to connections from anywhere.
[02:45] <bumblefuzz> how do I disable ipv6 to check if that's it?
[02:46] <tomreyn> your nmap output should actually tell the ip address that it connected to
[02:46] <tomreyn> well, "connect" is the wrong term, it's not tcp. the port it sent traffic to and received a response from.
[02:49] <tomreyn> you can choose not to configure a routable ipv6 address on the wan interface, that should suffice, no need to diable ipv6 support in general.
[02:50] <bumblefuzz> that step is done for me
[02:50] <bumblefuzz> I can only act retroactively on ipv6
[03:00] <bumblefuzz> yeah, ipv6 is disabled and port 53 is still wide open and accepting DNS requests
[03:14] <bumblefuzz> I can't find any reason this should be accepting port 53 traffic
[03:27] <rxdeath> weird happenings...i installed 2 ubuntu 20.04 vms at the same time, one the alias for ll works, one it does not.   i have made 0 changes to the file.  any reason why this could be happening?
[03:33] <rxdeath> if re source bashrc or do an alias in the commandline it works
[03:33] <rxdeath> but as soon as i log out and back in again, it doesnot work anymore
[03:34] <rxdeath> i also notice the colors don't work until i after i resource as well
[03:38] <Intelo> leftyfb: I want to trace first that what went wrong?
[06:35] <bittin> morning
[06:52] <furycd001> HI Guys.. I was on here yesterday morning with the problem of my laptop failing to boot to the desktop. After spending a while trying to boot back into my desktop I gave up & opted for a reinstall. I reinstalled xubuntu 20.04.2 but again kept getting stuck at the same place & couldn't access the desktop. Reinstalled yet again using xubuntu 18.04.5 & now I can access the desktop & do a bunch of things (all-be-it with a go
[06:52] <furycd001> en tearing).
[06:52] <furycd001> My problem now is that whenever I install nvidia drivers my laptop will fail to boot or will boot, but will lock up at lightdm. Sometimes It'll let me login to the desktop & then decide to lockup several seconds later.
[06:52] <furycd001> I booted into recovery mode & ran "sudo apt-get remove --purge '^nvidia-.*'" to remove all nvidia drivers & then rebooted using noveau drivers. To install drivers I go to Settings >> Additional Drivers >> http://i.imgur.com/HkgwelX.png
[06:52] <furycd001> Could someone please help me becuase I'm not that great when it comes to debugging or fixing things & I would love to get my graphics card working again.
[06:59] <ducasse> furycd001: if you don't get a response, try a little later as there are few people here now. i'm no guru on nvidia drivers, so don't think i can help
[07:00] <furycd001> Ok thank you for the heads up. I don't actually have a lot of time later today so I might have to wait until monday :/
[07:02] <ducasse> furycd001: what does 'ubuntu-drivers list' say?
[07:04] <furycd001> It shows this >> https://termbin.com/z9u5
[07:06] <ducasse> do you remember which version you installed previously?
[07:06] <ducasse> EriC^^: you got any ideas?
[07:07] <furycd001> I tried the 460 because it has tested beside it & I also tried 390....
[07:07] <ducasse> you could try a later version from the graphics drivers ppa
[07:07] <furycd001> the 390 would slowly let me boot to the desktop but would crash like 20seconds later. The 460 would just lock up on boot or at lightdm....
[07:08] <EriC^^> no idea here ducasse
[07:08] <furycd001> Hmmm do you think a driver from ppa would work ??
[07:08] <EriC^^> what does 'sudo ubuntu-drivers devices' show for recommended driver?
[07:08] <ducasse> maybe, could be worth a shot
[07:09] <furycd001> it shows this >> https://termbin.com/d65k
[07:10] <ducasse> does nouveau work?
[07:11] <furycd001> Yes I'm currently booted to the desktop using nouveau.
[07:11] <furycd001> There's a ton of screen tearing though when moving windows about or watching videos.
[07:12] <furycd001> When I try a nvidia driver & it doesn't work I boot into recovery mode & run "sudo apt-get remove --purge '^nvidia-.*" using the root console....
[07:17] <ducasse> i think i'd try the ppa
[07:17] <furycd001> Ok I'll give that a try and see what happens. Do you have a link for the ppa ??
[07:18] <ducasse> https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[07:18] <furycd001> Thank you :)
[07:19] <ducasse> yw, i just hope it helps.
[07:19] <furycd001> I hope so too
[07:23] <ducasse> furycd001: let us know how it goes
[07:24] <furycd001> Yes I will be straight back here once I get back to my desktop....
[07:45] <furycd001> Ok so I installed the latest driver from the ppa which is 465 & rebooted twice to a black screen with a solid cursor in the top left of the screen.  Worked fine until yesterday morning whenever my system just randomly locked up. Couldn't get 20.04
[07:48] <furycd001> to install so I went with 18.04.5
[07:49] <Diagon> Trying to figure out mkfs.f2fs options for 20.04.  fsfs.h refers to compression, but I get an error when I try to make the FS with '-O compression'
[07:49] <furycd001> I'm kinda thinking my graphics card might be faulty ??
[07:50] <Diagon> Headers for FSFS are in: /usr/src/linux-hwe-5.8-headers-5.8.0-53/include/trace/events/f2fs.h
[07:52] <Diagon> 'man mkfs.f2fs' merely says, "specify a feature list in order f2fs filesystem will supports.  e.g "encry-pt" and so on."  [sic]
[07:52] <Diagon> 'man mount' has no reference to f2fs
[07:53] <Diagon> Everywhere I look, f2fs in 5.8 kernel is supposed to have lzo, lz4, zstd and lzo-rle
[07:58] <Diagon> Every way I try, I get "Error: Wrong features"
[08:11] <huwjr> hey i recently moved from mac to ubuntu as my daily driver.  i'm trying to figure out how i can set it up so i get an 'are you sure' prompt when i use my ssh key that's been added with: ssh-add -c
[08:13] <furycd001> huwjr: I've never used ssh before, but you could probably write a simple bash script that uses the read command. Here's an example >> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/226703/how-do-i-prompt-for-yes-no-cancel-input-in-a-linux-shell-script ....
[08:13] <Diagon> I think you could just do zenity --question "Sure?" && ssh <host>
[08:17] <huwjr> it's a built in ssh feature that i just need the prompt from
[08:18] <huwjr> i need it to happen passively when something tries to use my key, not just when i actively run a command
[08:19] <furycd001> Ahhh right ok gotcha....
[08:20] <Diagon> Then you want inotify or incron or somesuch to be triggered when the key file is accessed.
[08:26] <huwjr> it's not a file when it's added to the agent, it's either a random socket file or in ram (i'm not actually sure tbh)
[08:26] <Diagon> Ah.  I.c.
[08:28] <huwjr> the point is it allows me to type my long password once and then control whether it's usable with a yes/no answer
[08:41] <agvantibo> Hello. I'm experiencing the same problem after the upgrade too: some dock icons will stay on the dock after closing the window, and will not vanish, despite not being in Favourites. Some windows also won't show up in the Dock. I am running 21.04 (Hirsute) vanilla Ubuntu now, but the problem persisted after upgrading.
[09:13] <isomari> greetings, what is the mc shortcut to go to line end? alt-b is for line beginning.
[09:15] <summonner> isomari, mc?
[09:15] <isomari> midnight commander
[09:55] <furycd001> Hey guys.. I finally made it to a desktop using nvidia drivers :)
[09:55] <furycd001> Ok so I removed the ppa & installed the standard tested nvidia-driver-460 & have been able to boot to my desktop using kernel 5.4.0-42-generic.
[09:56] <furycd001> I uninstalled kernel linux-image-5.4.0-73-generic using apt-get purge & I can now boot straight to my desktop without having to fiddle with grub.
[09:56] <furycd001> Screen tearing is still a thing though & I've tried to fix it using this post >> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2365449&p=13663158&viewfull=1#post13663158
[09:56] <furycd001> but.. I receive this error in my terminal....
[09:56] <furycd001> > cat: /sys/module/nvidia_drm/parameters/modeset: No such file or directory
[09:57] <furycd001> Any ideas :?
[10:17] <furycd001> brb....
[10:18] <torbjorn> I'm trying to map Super-right and Super-left to specific commands, but they don't seem to work. Under keyboard shortcuts there's nothing else that maps to these.
[10:19] <torbjorn> are there other places where these might be mapped to something? And how could I track what happens when I hit that keyboard combo?
[10:30]  * enyc meows
[10:31] <enyc> torbjorn: i'm not expret on that stutaino  but i would say -- ubuntu version and desktop type  may be significant info to include in your query
[10:31] <enyc> torbjorn: i'm wondering if, for example, keyboard layout has a 'super key' set at all, etc.
[10:45] <HaJones> I'm installing from source. when running ./config I get "package lua was not found in the pkg-config search path" what package do they mean. when I search ubuntu packages I get lua-ansicolor which is for printing to the consol and lua-apr for a language and others. which should I install?
[11:00] <torbjorn> enyc: I think I'm using Gnome 3, but I' not sure how to tell. I installed ubuntu without really making a concious choice on the matter. Also I have mapped the key with a windows logo on it to other shortcuts, which do work, using the label "Super" to set them up
[11:01] <torbjorn> I have the outline of a cat on my desktop, which stares at something to the left of my screen, and there's a left bar where running applications appear, and there's a top bar that has datetime in the middle, sys tray on the right, and "Activities" on the left corner
[11:03] <torbjorn> Where I would expect to see "Gnome Desktop" something.. something.. in programs (settings for example), I consistently see "Ubuntu Desktop" instead, but I'm pretty sure this is gnome
[11:04] <agvantibo> This is Focal Fossa (20.04)
[11:04] <agvantibo> And it most likely runs GNOME 3
[11:04] <torbjorn> would it vary for recent ubuntu releases?
[11:05] <agvantibo> Yes
[11:05] <agvantibo> Submit a screenshot of this https://i.imgur.com/wpSmoej.png
[11:05] <agvantibo> This is a tab in settings (gnome-control-center)
[11:06] <torbjorn> ah yes, there's the About I was looking for, thanks, just had to scroll below view, its gnome.
[11:07] <torbjorn> https://pasteboard.co/K1Qmqxg.png
[11:10] <agvantibo> Yes, it is GNOME 3
[11:10] <torbjorn> I come from Fedora, typically running other-than-gnome DE's , but the Super key is becoming less and less available there too, though I have been able to use Super-left, Super-right (and also Super-space), none of which have responded to me in gnome 3 (yet!)
[11:12] <agvantibo> So you are trying to remap Super+Left and Super+Right to do stuff? This is a WM builtin, so you would either have to work around it, or use X remappers.
[11:12] <torbjorn> what are they builtins for?
[11:12] <agvantibo> (They are normally bound to window tiling)
[11:13] <torbjorn> those are remappable though, in the same shortcut-setup interface
[11:13] <torbjorn> (I have remapped them to new, working, key comboes)
[11:16] <torbjorn> Super-space, which I didn't really ask about, but would also like, I had to clear in a dconf menu, it is setup to toggle input sources I think, or keyboard language in effect
[11:16] <luna__> Watching Igors snap talk at LAS 2021
[11:16] <luna__> however 6 minutes behind as i listened to #ubuntu-podcast
[11:18] <agvantibo> Aand you're mapping them at the same interface like this: https://i.imgur.com/WrCaq29.png
[11:19] <agvantibo> And you double-checked that you have disabled the original thingos
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> not here luna__
[11:20] <azidhaka> Hi, someone encountering this? ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'uaclient' in package ubuntu-advantage-tools while apt upgrading pretty standard 18.04
[11:20] <agvantibo> #ubuntu-discuss is probably the best place for this luna__
[11:22] <agvantibo> azidhaka, Where are you getting it exactly? after sudo apt upgrade?
[11:23] <azidhaka> agvantibo: yep
[11:23] <agvantibo> !info ubuntu-advantage-tools
[11:23] <azidhaka> cannot uninstall, reinstall or purge it due to this error
[11:25] <agvantibo> This is probably the post-DPKG script playing up
[11:25] <azidhaka> agvantibo: yes, looking at it, but it's quite long and it is unclear which python app is printing this
[11:26] <agvantibo> now, try sudo apt autoclean; sudo apt autoremove;
[11:26] <agvantibo> and post the output here
[11:27] <azidhaka> agvantibo: forget it, i'm stupid :) i had a python venv activated while upgrading :D
[11:27] <Liowenex> I am genuinely concerned that the wallpaper in 21.04 looks like testicles
[11:27] <agvantibo> Hope you've solved it now
[11:27] <azidhaka> agvantibo: yes, thank you
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> please only support issues here Liowenex
[11:27] <Nichi> i also see balls, but most people been saying it looks like hairy milkers, am i gay
[11:28] <Liowenex> I'm glad I am not the only one
[11:28] <agvantibo>  Liowenex #ubuntu-discuss exists and ubuntu-offtopic does so too
[11:28] <agvantibo> Nichi same
[11:28] <Nichi> sorry :-D
[11:29] <agvantibo> No offense taken, but some people may get... Uncomfortable
[11:34] <kubast2> What's the safe way to extract a rootfs without running tar as root?; what's the reverse fakeroot?
[11:34] <kubast2> I do know that I need to be vary about setuid, so I would mount said rootfs as noexec
[11:35] <kubast2> something that prevents you from writting to "/"(so giving tar capabilities isn't the answer)
[11:41] <torbjorn> agvantibo: yes, like so. Super-left and -right at least aren't doing what they used to. They seem to do nothing now, even with activated new commands to run
[11:41] <torbjorn> ah I should try actions that I know work.
[11:45] <torbjorn> oh shit that works. it was my action that was at fault, not gnome's ability to map it.
[11:46] <torbjorn> which leads to the next question.. how do I make it run a perl script that is in my $PATH if I open a gnome-terminal?
[11:54] <torbjorn> where might errors from keyboard shortcuts be logged? there is no ~/.xsessionerrors
[12:03] <torbjorn> ~/perl5/bin isn't in $PATH. error was all mine from the get go, thanks for help
[12:09] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:26] <jumperpin> i just started a, "sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdLETTER bs=10M" on a 30G usb  3 on a 3.0 hub, got a 64 bit phenom and 16G ram ssd, how long is this likely to take (speculate a range please anyone)?
[12:27] <jumperpin> it wont ctrl+C (cancel) and i dont want to brick the usb, bt its been a while and forgot to pass "status=progress"
[12:31] <EriC^^> jumperpin: you can do "sudo pkill -USR1 ^dd" to get the progress
[12:31] <EriC^^> (from another terminal)
[12:33] <jumperpin> ;) ty it just finished then but much appreciated. most def need that command in my back pocket for rouge processes
[12:33] <EriC^^> ;)
[12:58] <Kelerion> Morning peeps.
[13:12] <pa> hi folks
[13:12] <pa> is qt5 packages maintained by canonical or by debian?
[13:17] <FurretUber> Hi, how would you connect to a Wi-Fi connection using a screen reader on Xfce? I'm not finding a way to reach the nm-applet icon
[13:25] <ghost2911> Hi. How to setup (where) sending email notifications for unattended-upgrades package on Ubuntu 18? mailx installed via s-nail package. Or how to test that it actually uses mailx to send...
[14:28] <remline> (A) Extract linux-source-5.11.0.tar.bz2 (B) cp /boot/config-5.11.0-17-generic .config (C) make prepare (D) diff /boot/config-5.11.0-17-generic .config (Result) CONFIG_PAHOLE_HAS_SPLIT_BTF and CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO_BTF_MODULES are set in /boot/config-5.11.0-17-generic but not .config. Why?
[15:39] <nucc1> does anyone know where the conntrack information is located on ubuntu 20.04?
[15:40] <nucc1> there's no /proc/net/nf_conntrack on my device or /proc/net/ip_conntrack
[15:41] <tomreyn> nucc1: it's a module, is it loaded? lsmod | grep conntrack
[15:42] <nucc1> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JNyKGxKvWT/
[15:43] <nucc1> seems to be loaded. this is my router, so i imagine it would be broken if this module wasn't loaded
[15:45] <tomreyn> hmm, same here, on 5.4.0-72-generic
[15:45] <nucc1> i think the data goes somewhere else and perhaps nobody has remembered to document this... or i'm not looking hard enough :)
[15:46] <tomreyn> maybe you need to enable accounting
[15:47] <nucc1> i have just installed the package "conntrack", and it is able to find and display the info i want, so the data must be there
[15:47] <nucc1> i think i'll have to figure out a way to get the data from conntrack though.
[15:48] <nucc1> i'm trying to setup a scheme that would packet-sniff all the traffic for a host on my LAN as well as all the NATed traffic on the WAN port
[15:48] <nucc1> doesn't seem like there's an easy way to do this, so i'm looking at writing a script that would periodically check the conntrack table and run a new tcpdump instance for any new hosts that the LAN host connects to
[15:49] <nucc1> ultimate aim is to figure out why i'm getting packet loss on my otherwise clean network.
[15:50] <nucc1> i can't say for sure if the packets are getting dropped by QOS or not.
[15:50] <nucc1> I can't imagine that the QOS will drop packets in a way that results in the connection failing as a result of too many missed ACKs
[15:50] <tomreyn> you could check the source code. or, if this utility reads it from a FSO, strace should tell.
[15:51] <nucc1> yea, i need to git-clone it.
[15:51] <nucc1> sadly there's no tarball download like github does
[15:52] <nucc1> grrrr. i don't have Virt feature enabled on my CPU.... i need to reboot and get into bios.
[15:52] <nucc1> (sigh).
[16:17] <nucc1> looks like it uses https://netfilter.org/projects/libnetfilter_conntrack/index.html
[16:17] <nucc1> the /proc method is now legacy
[16:19] <nucc1> @tomreyn
[16:22] <Antoine_> Hello, can I install ubuntu 21.04 if I only have a 2 Gb USB stick?
[16:22] <Antoine_> I believe I'd need a <2Gb iso file but I don't know if there is any
[16:24] <nucc1> Antoine_: https://ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[16:24] <nucc1> the network installer might be feasible
[16:25] <apathor> hi. in what environment do apt postinstall scripts run? i have a postinst failure i think related to PATH containing /usr/local/bin
[16:27] <Antoine_> nucc1: Hmm, it's not as easy. I also have an external hard drive but I can't wipe it. Is it feasible in a partition of the hard drive?
[16:28] <parapan> hi all; I've updated from ubuntu server 18 to 20 .....now, the mysql is broken ....tried a lot of commands . . nothing is working . . ..
[16:48] <Sir_Burns> Ports open?
[16:49] <Sir_Burns> Can you login to sql server as root?
[16:49] <Sir_Burns> Is it running?
[16:49] <parapan> I dont think so ...
[16:50] <parapan> Job for mysql.service failed because the control process exited with error code.
[16:50] <parapan> See "systemctl status mysql.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
[16:50] <donofrio> how do I tell netstat to only show parent processes not child ones when I'm doing "netstat -plant"?
[16:51] <Sir_Burns> @parapan https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42317139/job-for-mysqld-service-failed-see-systemctl-status-mysqld-service
[16:52] <mwillc> is it expected that an LTS Ubuntu point release; e.g. 18.04.2, not change to say 18.04.5 after running an apt upgrade against an up to date repo mirror? Does the contents of /etc/os-release ever change after the initial OS install?
[16:53] <parapan> Sir_Burns: went through some of the answers .....no luck ...
[16:53] <parapan> it seems my .pid and .sock files are missing ....
[16:54] <AlexPortable> Where can I get a flash .so? All websites I found tell me to install flashplugin-installer, which doesn't actually create any files
[16:57] <nucc1> Antoine_ i don't understand you. the network installer is small, but it requires that the machine have internet access during installation.
[16:57] <nucc1> so you should be able to flash it onto your usb stick and install it. The details of the installation don't depend on the installation media.
[16:58] <nucc1> does anyone know how to fix this impasse I have? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RZGzddHBjX/
[17:00] <jason234> Dear Ubuntu users, I would like to kindly ask, how is it possible to play the game Roblox under Linux, Ubuntu ?
[17:09] <TJ-> nucc1: possibly "sudo apt update  && sudo apt full-upgrade && sudo apt --fix-broken install"
[17:10] <Antoine_> nucc1: Ah, I was reading the instructions there: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/netbooting-the-live-server-installer/14510
[17:10] <Antoine_> And there seemed to be many steps
[17:11] <Antoine_> If I can just flash the "mini.iso" image and boot normally, that's fine :)
[17:12] <nucc1> Antoine_ you don't need to netboot as far as I remember. just boot it like normal, and make sure the machine is connected to internet.
[17:12] <nucc1> TJ-: let me try those.
[17:12] <Antoine_> nucc1: Ok ok, great!
[17:12] <nucc1> Antoine_ https://www.answertopia.com/ubuntu/installing-ubuntu-with-the-network-installer/
[17:13] <nucc1> yea, netbooting is for people who need to install like 200 machines at once or something
[17:15] <nucc1> TJ-: i get error "E: Command line option --fix-broken-install is not understood in combination with the other options
[17:15] <nucc1> "
[17:20] <ioria> nucc1, not --fix-broken-install   but  --fix-broken instal
[17:21] <ioria> nucc1, sorry, not --fix-broken-install   but  --fix-broken instal   l
[17:30] <JustLandedOnMars> hi
[17:31] <JustLandedOnMars> I run "cfdisk /dev/sdb" and it says:
[17:31] <JustLandedOnMars> Select label type: gpt, dos, sgi, sun
[17:31] <JustLandedOnMars> so which type do I choose ?
[17:32] <JustLandedOnMars> I want to create 4 primary partitions with extfs on it
[17:34] <JustLandedOnMars> I just checked other disks I had, HDD and flash drive they have "dos" so I will use "dos" here too
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> !partitioning | JustLandedOnMars
[17:34] <JustLandedOnMars> right
[17:34] <JustLandedOnMars> I know how to partition
[17:35] <JustLandedOnMars> its just this time I run fresh "cfdisk" and it asked me to chose one of these types, that is first time
[17:35] <JustLandedOnMars> other than that I did partitioned before
[17:35] <JustLandedOnMars> yes, right, its not what I expected just link to external resource, but thanks anyway
[17:36] <JustLandedOnMars> I thought maybe some "human interaction"
[17:42] <donofrio> what switches would I need for lsof to list processes and ports bound to them but not child processes?
[17:44] <nucc1> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2sPq7RGnGy/    --- this was a pristine install of ubuntu server a month or so ago :)
[17:49] <tomreyn> JustLandedOnMars: you want either gpt or dos (AKA mbr). dos is the classic partition table, nowadays you may want to prefer gpt.
[17:51] <TJ-> nucc1: show us "pastebinit <( cat /etc/apt/sources.list{.d/*} ; lsb_release -a ; uname -a ) "
[17:54] <nucc1> TJ-: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4f6ry5Swyq/
[17:55] <nucc1> nothing in my sources.list.d
[17:55] <nucc1> but i can share my sources.list if you want.
[17:55] <agvantibo> TJ-, this is like neofetch but with extra steps
[17:55] <TJ-> nucc1: that command I gave you would do that
[17:55] <tomreyn> TJ-: i think there's a comma missing
[17:55] <TJ-> tomreyn: there is?
[17:56] <nucc1> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ckDhfjyhJM/
[17:56] <TJ-> tomreyn: there is!
[17:56] <TJ-> tomreyn: good eye ... that's normally my job :)
[17:57] <tomreyn> TJ-: yes, you're normally better on that than i am :)
[17:58] <TJ-> tomreyn: tired eyes 28-hour stint!
[17:59] <tomreyn> ooof
[17:59] <TJ-> nucc1: OK, let's clear the error directly since it'll be much faster than trying to figure out WHY this has broken. "sudo apt install libc6-dev build-essential"
[18:01] <nucc1> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Xfcp6FMfZs/
[18:01] <TJ-> usually this occurs because an already-installed package conflicts with one being requested, or as in this case, is a dependency required by the package(s) being installed
[18:02] <TJ-> nucc1: you DID do "sudo apt update" and that did complete successfully fetching the most recent package lists?
[18:03] <nucc1> TJ-: sure I did: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zhYccq9t8R/
[18:05] <TJ-> nucc1: strange. Looking on a 20.04 system here, it upgraded all the libc6* packages on 21st April from 2.31-0ubuntu9.2 to 2.31-0ubuntu9.3
[18:06] <rfm> this looks like the problem where a bad libc6 version was installed and backed out.  if one happened to upgrade while the bad package was they got it
[18:06] <TJ-> nucc1: OK, one step further. "sudo apt install libc6 libc6-dev build-essential"
[18:06] <rfm> I have the bad 9.3 package (but the bug doesn't affect me, forget what it was)
[18:07] <TJ-> rfm: yes it does
[18:07] <nucc1> TJ-: still same complaint about libc6
[18:07] <TJ-> nucc1: hmmm, this is starting to annoy me. Warn your PC it's about to get a slap!
[18:08] <rfm> I think the thing to do here is downgrade libc6 to 2.31-0ubuntu9.2 (the current highest version in the repos)
[18:08] <nucc1> well, sadly, this is my router :)
[18:08] <nucc1> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rZcYFypJ3H/
[18:08] <TJ-> nucc1: "apt-cache policy libc6 libc6-dev"
[18:08] <TJ-> nucc1: pastebin please?
[18:09] <nucc1> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/drNRSnfbxw/
[18:10] <TJ-> nucc1: wooah! and ouch! /me goes to do some research
[18:11] <nucc1> thanks TJ- , hope my router is not fubar :)
[18:12] <TJ-> nucc1: I have libc6-dev 2.31-0ubuntu9.3 installed here BUT my policy shows only 9.2 available. I suspect this will be the bug rfm referred to and that package was tempirarily pulled from the archive
[18:12] <nucc1> yea, must be.
[18:12] <nucc1> my bad luck though, because i sometimes go weeks before i run updates :)
[18:13] <TJ-> Yes Deleted on 2021-05-03 by Iain Lane
[18:13] <TJ-> Causing crashes, saved in silo 4547, LP: #1926355
[18:13] <nucc1> so i won't have experienced the bug, cos i got no snaps
[18:13] <TJ-> Oh great - rest of the distro is broken because of snaps!
[18:13] <nucc1> tell me about it :)
[18:13] <TJ-> nucc1: OK, so 'lets get you the package manually
[18:14] <nucc1> i really wish packages.ubuntu.com had a search field :)
[18:15] <TJ-> nucc1: "pushd /tmp; wget https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/4507-deletedppa/+build/21332538/+files/libc6-dev_2.31-0ubuntu9.3_amd64.deb; sudo dpkg -i libc6-dev_2.31-0ubuntu9.3_amd64.deb; sudo apt --fix-broken install; popd "
[18:17] <nucc1> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/p5gkSKMJyW/
[18:17] <nucc1> i guess i should say "Y" ?
[18:20] <TJ-> hang on
[18:20] <nucc1> oops :p
[18:21] <TJ-> we need to fetch another package; I didn't check the dependency. No problem if you have though
[18:21] <nucc1> yea, i have
[18:21] <TJ-> nucc1: "wget https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/4507-deletedppa/+build/21332538/+files/libc-dev-bin_2.31-0ubuntu9.3_amd64.deb; sudo dpkg -i libc-dev-bin_2.31-0ubuntu9.3_amd64.deb; sudo apt --fix-broken install"
[18:22] <TJ-> nucc1: actually hang on!
[18:22] <nucc1> awww :d
[18:22] <nucc1> no errors reported
[18:22] <TJ-> nucc1: Your last pastebin seems to show the first package was removed !! so we need to insert both first
[18:22] <nucc1> still have the dependency issue though
[18:23] <nucc1> okay
[18:23] <TJ-> nucc1: "sudo dpkg -i /tmp/libc6-dev_2.31-0ubuntu9.3_amd64.deb; sudo apt --fix-broken install"
[18:24] <TJ-> nucc1: in theory that show not now force a package removal/downgrade
[18:24] <TJ-> s/show/should
[18:24] <nucc1> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sN3SV9RSv5/
[18:24] <nucc1> looks fixed :)
[18:25] <nucc1> thanks a lot. i could never have figured this out :)
[18:25] <TJ-> thank %^&*&!
[18:25] <TJ-> nucc1: now you can bet to what it was you actually intended to do!
[18:26] <nucc1> fair point, but i think i'd have given up and planned for another clean install :p
[18:27] <nucc1> which is painful, because i haven't actually written scripts to deploy the router configuration... which is something i should do
[18:27] <nucc1> so the build is painstakingly manual
[18:28] <nucc1> right, what i set to do is its own challenge :)
[18:28] <nucc1> he he
[18:28] <nucc1> trying to figure out how to get conntrack information from a program using libnetfilter_conntrack :)
[18:29] <nucc1> the first example in their source tree i built isn't running :d
[18:29] <nucc1> the build-essential package was so i can compile the program directly where it's gonna run
[19:35] <bleb> does ubuntu have nonfree software in its repos by default?
[19:44] <rfm> bleb, depends on your defiiniton of non-free but there is some software with various restricted licenses in the "restricted" and "multiverse" sections.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories has some explanation
[19:55] <Antoine_> nucc1: Aaah ok I see. That's exactly what I need, thanks a lot!
[20:58] <bumblefuzz> so, I've suddenly lost all audio
[20:58] <bumblefuzz> I've made no changes
[20:58] <bumblefuzz> WTF?
[21:11] <dirgeable> hi, im on 21.04. is there a way, maybe with gnome tweaks, to have a program always start on all workspaces? thanks!
[21:35] <Walex> dirgeable: depends on the window manager/GNOME shell
[21:35] <Walex> dirgeable: perhaps have a look at "devilspie2", that can provide some enhancement.
[21:37] <Walex> dirgeable: but note that Xorg and Weston/Wayland are different.
[21:58] <cronopio> hi, i just did a clean format and now i'm copying my files back from my external backup hd
[21:59] <cronopio> but now they don't belong to my new user
[21:59] <cronopio> is there any way to batch switch user?
[21:59] <cronopio> *batch switch file owner
[22:00] <EriC^^> cronopio: sudo chown -R ${USER}: /path/to/filesdir
[22:02] <cronopio> oh, thanks!
[22:02] <cronopio> but say my user is cronopio, should i write ${cronopio}?
[22:11] <cronopio> (nevermind, it worked, thanks again)
[22:12] <cronopio> wait, no, it didn't work recursively
[22:17] <cronopio> but now it worked using the form user:group instead of ${user}:
[22:18] <EriC^^> cronopio: it's literally ${USER}: not to be replaced or anything
[22:18] <EriC^^> glad it worked though
[22:21] <cronopio> aaaah
[23:05] <kathadris> Is there to a way to have the dock hide when not in use. I have tried tweaks, exstensions, just perfection, and dconf editor. Right now it hides when an app touches it but comes right back. I want it to hide unless I click activities.
[23:40] <ledeni> kathadris: shuold be extension for that what is gnome shell vesion
[23:41] <kathadris> 3.38
[23:47] <ledeni> kathadris: dash to dock extension i think got option to autohide dock


[07:30] <mup> Bug #2009799 opened: Maas 3.4 :  Blocking Bug Commissioning, Deployment... <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2009799>
[08:36] <mup> Bug #2009805 opened: [3.3.1 rc] machine deploy install_kvm=True fails <cdo-qa> <foundations-engine> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2009805>
[17:39] <mup> Bug #2009876 opened: MAAS rack server triggers Apparmor denial on virsh KVM SSH host interactions <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2009876>


 In Kenya.
[14:35] <Na3iL> Cool! :)


[03:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-control-center (jammy-proposed/main) [1:41.7-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 1:41.7-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (ubuntu-desktop)
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[10:07] <ricotz> hello, please re-try the failed archs of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/llvm-toolchain-14/1:14.0.6-1
[10:14] <seb128> ricotz, retried
[10:20] <ricotz> seb128, thanks
[10:38] <LocutusOfBorg> ricotz, why should i386 succeed now?
[10:39] <LocutusOfBorg> I ask because in Debian i386 is failing the same way
[10:39] <LocutusOfBorg> https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=llvm-toolchain-14
[10:39] <LocutusOfBorg> so if something got fixed in toolchain, please let me know and I can retry
[10:44] <ricotz> LocutusOfBorg, hi, I see, I assumed it got stuck by some race caused by the stressed builders farm
[10:46] <ricotz> LocutusOfBorg, looks like the builders are still quite grumpy today :(
[11:09] <ricotz> LocutusOfBorg, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/llvm-toolchain-14/1:14.0.6-1/+build/24112253
[11:09] <LocutusOfBorg> mdh
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[14:04] <paride> bdmurray, hey, https://code.launchpad.net/~paride/auto-upgrade-testing-specifications/set-debian-frontend/+merge/425732 should fix the remaining flavor upgrade tests
[14:07] <jbicha> bdmurray: good morning, please review gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng/jammy since it's urgent for OEM
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[15:54] <bdmurray> jbicha: approved / accepted
[16:41] <ricotz> LocutusOfBorg, :( https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/llvm-toolchain-14/1:14.0.6-1/+build/24112253
[17:05] <ricotz> bdmurray, hi :), could you restart llvm ? ^
[17:06] <bdmurray> ricotz: yes, given that there is no build log
[17:06] <ricotz> thx
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[21:39] <Eickmeyer> Could I get a rebuild of the ubuntustudio kinetic image? The test tracker won't let me due to a previous failure.
[21:41] <Eickmeyer> Unless there's another method I don't know about.
 "Could I get a rebuild of the..." <- That's something to get fixed...
[22:15] <tsimonq2> Wdym by "previous failure"?
[22:15] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: I had earlier used the same tool to request a rebuild. That rebuild failed, resulting in the same button being "stuck" and unable to request anotehr rebuild.
[22:17] <tsimonq2> Eickmeyer: How sure are you that it isn't just iso.q.u.c showing it as stuck while it's still building? Do you know how to check your livefs builds?
[22:18] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: I'm very familiar: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/kinetic/ubuntustudio/
[22:18] <Eickmeyer> It's been stuck like that for days now.
[22:18] <tsimonq2> Eickmeyer: So the QA tracker won't let you rebuild? What errors are you getting?
[22:19] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: It doesn't give me an error, it just doesn't do anything at this point. It noops.
[22:21] <tsimonq2> Eickmeyer: It's a cronjob on the backend unless something has changed in the last 5 years or so... it simply won't work even after a few hours?
[22:21] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: Not if 1) my rebuild request fails to build, and 2) each subsequent build fails to build.
[22:22]  * tsimonq2 wonders if someone with SSH access can pull some logs
[22:23] <Eickmeyer> Usually someone with ssh access can easily just activate a rebuild and if everything goes right it's all OK. But, honestly, being unable to request a rebuild myself is rather inconvenient for everyone if a rebuild request fails.
[22:24] <tsimonq2> I agree. I'm willing to throw a patch at some code if the log catching is thorough :)


[02:38] <DammitJim> was someone on here using Mint?
[03:16] <DammitJim> mint anyone?
[04:07] <crashsystems> DammitJim: I use mint
[04:07] <DammitJim> crashsystems, aren't you scared?
[04:07] <mhall119> of mint?
[04:07] <crashsystems> scared of what?
[04:08] <crashsystems> giving mint the password to my bank account?
[04:08] <DammitJim> yes... to all my accounts
[04:08]  * DammitJim just did it
[04:09] <crashsystems> well, I figure that if anyone is going to go after my online banking, they are going to attack my bank's site, not mint.
[04:09] <crashsystems> plenty of ways to attack banking sites
[04:09] <DammitJim> lol
[04:09] <DammitJim> true
[04:10] <DammitJim> it's just scary 'cause Mint now knows everything about my finances
[04:10] <crashsystems> I've seen some scary crap on financial service websites
[04:10] <DammitJim> I wanted to stick to QUicken or the debian version
[04:10] <DammitJim> but I need something online
[04:11] <crashsystems> I did a little something extra to protect my mint account though
[04:11] <crashsystems> with mint your email address is your user id, and they accept email addresses of the form<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:12] <crashsystems> so I have a plus sign in my user name, and then a random string. makes brute forcing kinda difficult for someone who is starting with my email address
[04:12] <crashsystems> of course, just creating a separate email for mint would be better
[04:12] <DammitJim> good point
[04:14] <crashsystems> besides, I don't think so many people use mint that it would be a more attractive target than say, bank of america.
[04:14] <DammitJim> that's true
[04:14] <DammitJim> I wish I could remove categories from Mint
[04:15] <crashsystems> I need to configure my budget
[04:15] <DammitJim> that's why I'm doing this... my wife and I have to get it done... money is leaking somewhere LOL
[04:16] <crashsystems> since I have not configured it, it made an auto-budget based upon the past three months of account activity. those three months for me were the last three I was unemployed, so the budget was a bit off
[04:16] <DammitJim> where are you at now?
[04:16] <DammitJim> btw, can you go older than 3 months?
[04:17] <crashsystems> I'd get emails like the one right after I purchased my laptop, saying things like "unusual spending in electronics. you spent $1,200 in electronics last month, and you usually spend $2."
[04:17] <crashsystems> I'm in Sunnyvale california.
[04:17] <crashsystems> I don't know
[04:17] <DammitJim> lol
[04:17] <DammitJim> california? how is sunnyvale?
[04:17] <DammitJim> what are you doing?
[04:18] <crashsystems> I'm working at WhiteHat Security. Basically customers hire us to find security vulnerabilities in their websites.
[04:19] <DammitJim> wow
[04:19] <DammitJim> you are good at that stuff! good luck with it
[04:19] <crashsystems> thanks
[04:19] <DammitJim> dammit... T-mobile is going to have free phones on the 11th and 12th!
[04:19] <crashsystems> "free"
[04:19] <DammitJim> I hope they don't jack up the price of the monthly web
[04:19] <DammitJim> 2 year contract :)
[04:19] <DammitJim> my wife is up for renewal
[04:20] <DammitJim> and she lost her G2 2 weeks ago :(
[04:20] <crashsystems> Whenever I'm at home my phone number is routed over WiFi. Its my little way at getting (slightly) even with telcos
[04:20] <DammitJim> is there a way to get mint to color code stuff?
[04:20] <DammitJim> how do you do that, crashsystems ?
[04:20] <crashsystems> I don't know. I've not really used the web interface beyond setting up the account.
[04:21] <crashsystems> I've got a gizmo5 account, and Gingerbread has built in voip
[04:21] <crashsystems> you can do it with sipgate though too
[04:21] <DammitJim> gizmo5? sipgate?
[04:21] <DammitJim> are those free services?
[04:21] <DammitJim> is that similar to google voice?
[04:22] <crashsystems> gizmo5 is a freemium service, but they were bought by google and registration is closed
[04:22] <crashsystems> same thing with sipgate, sans google and registration is still open
[04:22] <crashsystems> http://crashsystems.net/2010/04/google-voice-gizmo5-sipdroid/ <-- info about my setup pre android 2.3
[04:25] <DammitJim> what's your upstream internet?
[04:25] <crashsystems> comcast
[04:26] <crashsystems> its kinda funny, I'm in the middle of silicon valley, and I still only have one choice of internet provider.
[04:26] <DammitJim> lol
[04:26] <DammitJim> we are behind in internet services for Americans still....
[04:26] <DammitJim> so, there is no sip stuff I can do with my Nexus S?
[04:27] <crashsystems> sure there is
[04:27] <DammitJim> for a price?
[04:27] <crashsystems> you could do the exact same setup I have, but using sipgate instead of gizmo5
[04:27] <DammitJim> I know T-mobile lets you use WiFi, but they still use up your minutes
[04:27] <crashsystems> sipgate is free for incoming calls
[04:27] <crashsystems> with my setup, every call, even outgoing, is technically incomming when on wifi
[04:28] <DammitJim> how is that?
[04:28] <crashsystems> I should really write a blog post about it
[04:28] <DammitJim> yeah ;)
[04:29] <DammitJim> have you tried Tango? that's worked great for me
[04:29] <crashsystems> In fact, I think I'll do that.
[04:29] <crashsystems> nope. what is it?
[04:30] <DammitJim> oh man, you have the nexus 1, not the s, right?
[04:30] <DammitJim> it's for video conferencing
[04:31] <crashsystems> correct
[04:31] <DammitJim> and video streaming is pretty good
[04:33] <crashsystems> nice. I've been using gtalk on my laptop for video conferencing
[04:33] <DammitJim> google talk?
[04:33] <crashsystems> yep
[04:34] <DammitJim> never tried it
[04:34] <crashsystems> well, when you are doing video chat on your Nexus S, technically you are using it.
[04:35] <DammitJim> hhhmm
[04:36] <crashsystems> they have a browser plugin that lets users use voice/video chat right in the gmail interface
[04:37] <crashsystems> http://www.google.com/chat/video
[04:39] <DammitJim> alright, enough of this
[04:39] <DammitJim> I better hit the sack if I want to do any android dev tomorrow
[04:39] <crashsystems> goodnight
[04:41] <DammitJim> see ya man
[04:41] <DammitJim> thanks for all the info
[04:41] <DammitJim> where did mike go?
[04:41] <DammitJim> ... or mhall119 ...
[14:14] <dantalizing> morning
[14:14] <dantalizing> maxolasersquad: sry i missed you the other day
[14:15] <maxolasersquad> dantalizing: It's cool.  I don't really expect people to be on much on the weekends.
[14:16] <dantalizing> maxolasersquad: i have a jabber notification setup, so that I'd get notifications on google talk, but apparently i borked it somewhere along the way :(
[14:16] <dantalizing> mmmmm..... jabber borking
[14:16] <maxolasersquad> Do you have information on how to set that up?
[14:20] <dantalizing> somewhere
[14:20] <dantalizing> i'll check
[14:21] <dantalizing> its an irssi script
[14:21] <jck77> good morning
[14:22] <dantalizing> morning jck77
[14:22] <dantalizing> maxolasersquad: https://github.com/chmouel/irssi-xmpp-notify
[14:25] <maxolasersquad> dantalizing: Awesome.  I don't have a clue what I was pinging you for.
[15:40] <maxolasersquad> dantalizing: I remember now.  I was hoping you would take a look at http://code.google.com/r/maxolasersquad-osmand/ for me.
[15:41] <maxolasersquad> I made some modifications, which cause the app to crash when my GPS Location changes.
[15:42] <maxolasersquad> I added a new configuration so the user could choose MPH or KPH, and then display the speed according to the option chosen.
[15:42] <maxolasersquad> The problem appears to be in my implementation of the option.
[15:42] <maxolasersquad> This is my first shot at doing any coding on Android.
[15:52] <dantalizing> maxolasersquad: i'll play with it tonight ... see if I find something
[15:52] <maxolasersquad> I greatly appreciate it.  I've restepped everything I did and I don't see a problem.
[16:17] <maxolasersquad> dantalizing: I'm pretty sure the problem lies somewhere in my implementation of the ListPreference


[12:31] <stickupkid> achilleasa, manadart this is ready for re-review https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/12609
[13:07] <shentinobN> /!\ this channel has moved to ##hamradio /!\
[13:13] <anzuofxL> /!\ this channel has moved to #nyymit /!\
[13:17] <Typhonwv> /!\ this channel has moved to #nyymit /!\
[15:19] <elmaciej> Hi! I need an advice, we are having some difficulties with openstack charms - we are trying to add 2 storage backends, does anyone can advice how to do it? Any procedure?


[09:22] <rvchila> good morning
[13:30] <Kentrel> Anyone getting slow midi response even with a real time kernel?
[15:39] <ubydoobydo> i want good performance and compatability with my nvidia 5500 would a studio version be idle for this?
[15:40] <ubydoobydo> ideal
[16:06] <holstein> ubydoobydo: hey
[16:07] <holstein> you can expect the same performance with ubuntu and ubuntu studio with the nvidia 5500
[16:09] <holstein> Kentrel: you mean... when you press a key on the keyboard, it takes a noticable amount of time to hear the sound?
[16:09] <holstein> are you using JACK?
[16:09] <Kentrel> yes, and no
[16:09] <Kentrel> Jack won't work
[16:10] <holstein> i would suggest trouble shooting that
[16:10] <holstein> JACK is what you need
[16:10] <Kentrel> why do i need jack?
[16:10] <holstein> well
[16:10] <holstein> for one, latency
[16:11] <Kentrel> Jack mutes the audio for all my other apps. Jack opens about 15 million windows. Jack crashes all the time.
[16:11] <holstein> fair enough
[16:11] <Kentrel> With timidity I can have it playing in the background and play along to sounds. The latency is fine when I boot
[16:11] <Kentrel> but over time it "degrades" and slows down
[16:12] <holstein> JACK also provides me with 2.2 ms latency
[16:12] <Kentrel> So I have to reboot to fix it
[16:13] <ubydoobydo> ty
[16:14] <holstein> ubydoobydo: if you have an older machine
[16:14] <holstein> and your looking for something lighter
[16:14] <holstein> try xubuntu
[16:14] <holstein> or lubuntu
[16:16] <ubydoobydo> but you guys don't support xubuntu?
[16:17] <holstein> you mean #ubuntustudio ?
[16:17] <holstein> not really
[16:18] <holstein> unless you wanted to run studio apps
[16:46] <ubydoobydo> ha
[16:46] <ubydoobydo> thats kinda a great idea
[16:46] <ubydoobydo> some media is extreamly ram intensive..codec cpu..
[16:47] <ubydoobydo> lol has anyone made a soundcard made to compute codec?
[17:05] <wifig> would studio support wifi-n?
[17:06] <holstein> hey wifig
[17:06] <holstein> if you get an ubuntu live CD and boot it
[17:06] <holstein> OR
[17:07] <holstein> if your already running ubuntu (or kubuntu or xubuntu)
[17:08] <holstein> your not going to get any additional device support from the ubuntustudio packages
[17:08] <wifig> i've burned lucid? ubuntu 10 i'm about to reset and install on a good hd..
[17:08] <holstein> 10.04
[17:08] <wifig> yea
[17:09] <holstein> 10.04 = lucid = ubuntu released in 2010 (10) in april (.04)
[20:48] <_pg_> its always so quiet in ere
[20:53] <jussi> well it would hep if you talked...
[21:20] <_pg_> jussi: why dont you talk!
[22:06] <zus> hi there
[22:53] <zus> This error could be caused by required additional software wich are missig or not installed
[22:53] <zus> furthermore there couldbe a conflict between software packages wich are not allowed to be installed at the same time
[22:54] <zus> in the details only "gnochm" is written.  -thats all
[22:55] <zus> um, sorry wrong channel.....(thats twice this happened)


[18:37] <midori> is here someone how i can install a new ubuntu on my SE-experia(android)model Arc
[18:51] <rosonline> Hello
[18:53] <midori> is here someone how i can install a new ubuntu on my SE-experia(android)model Arc
[18:54] <rosonline> I would like to make translations and test any app


[12:08] <kiko> stub, chinstrap.ubuntu.com:/home/warthogs/archives/kiko/launchpad/gina-production/
[12:08] <stub> k
[12:09] <salgado> stub, are you planning a rollout soon?
[12:09] <stub> salgado: This evening
[12:09] <stub> salgado: or whenever all that junk in the pqm gets through
[12:09] <kiko> fuck pqm today dude
[12:10] <kiko> stub, can you store the current gina logs so I can use them as reference?
[12:11] <salgado> stub, would you wait for this branch that I just added to pqm's queue before doing the rollout?
[12:15] <kiko> jamesh, any clue why the current pending-reviews run is so slow?
[12:19] <kiko> mdz, ping?
[12:19] <mdz> kiko: in-a-BOF-pong
[12:19] <kiko> mdz, could you run a gobby session?
[12:19] <kiko> your box is potpal, right?
[12:20] <mdz> yes
[12:20] <mdz> I'm in a discussion right now; is it urgent?
[12:21] <Kinnison> kiko: have you got that patch landed yet?
[12:21] <kiko> Kinnison, it's in kiko/launchpad/gina-production

[12:21] <kiko> mdz, not entirely, but you don't need to be in it -- just run it and add a file
[12:21] <kiko> mdz, you're the only box salgado and I can reach simulaneously (wtf why)
[12:21] <Kinnison> kiko: can you ping stupor?
[12:21] <kiko> no, and I have no idea why
[12:22] <Kinnison> bizarre
[12:22] <kiko> indeed it is
[12:22] <kiko> PQM gobbles one more up
[12:22] <Kinnison> aye
[12:23] <mdz> kiko: done
[12:23] <kiko> thanks mdz
[12:27] <stub> kiko: Gina is running again
[12:27] <kiko> thanks stub
[12:27] <kiko> stub, did you nuke the publishing records?
[12:28] <kiko> stub, aargh
[12:28] <stub> kiko: no
 stub, can you store the current gina logs so I can use them as reference?
[12:28] <kiko> stub, then...
[12:28] <kiko> stub, also, I updated the staging config to include a hoary-backports pocket
[12:28] <Kinnison> I did
[12:28] <kiko> it needs to be configured in the front-end
[12:28] <Kinnison> daft buggers
[12:28] <Kinnison> hour+ ago
[12:31] <jamesh> kiko: no.
[12:33] <stub> kiko: Lost the warty log but the rest are backed up
[12:33] <jamesh> kiko: it looks like ddaa's branch is the one taking ages to check
[12:33] <kiko> thanks stub
[12:34] <stub> Erm... I'm going to need to restart and nuke the librarian contents
[12:34] <stub> Or we won't have enough disk space, since all the records were deleted
[12:36] <kiko> stub, let me talk to you
[12:49] <sivang> anybody has an idea when the wrap out talks are taking place?
[12:52] <kiko> in hell
[12:54] <kiko> the devil is wrapping gina up in lettuce leaves
[12:55] <kiko> stub, what's the good news?
[12:55] <stub> kiko: Waiting on database records to delete.
[12:57] <kiko> cool
[12:58] <jordi> kiko: are you getting drunk today
[12:58] <jordi> 1h to go man
[12:59] <kiko> rock rock
[01:00] <kiko> stub, also, don't forget to add the hoary-backports option (if it's necessary -- I don't remember if it is)
[01:00] <kiko> I added the section to the staging config (I think)
[01:01] <stub> kiko: Already done, and also added the extra architectures
[01:01] <kiko> okay, rock on solid
[01:01] <stub> kiko: ok - she is running
[01:01] <stub> argh... killed
[01:01] <stub> Try that again
[01:03] <stub> kiko: ok. Take 3 (or whatever)
[01:13] <lifeless> ddaa: ?
[01:15] <lifeless> ddaa: ping
[01:15] <lifeless> you pung me
[01:15] <lifeless> you said 'irc'
[01:21] <lifeless> ddaa: what ping ?
[01:21] <ddaa> >> [01:21] <ddaa> >> +    # Stats and status attributes
[01:21] <ddaa> >> +    starred = Attribute("How many stars this branch has.")
[01:21] <ddaa> I think you should explain what a 'star' is.
[01:21] <ddaa> Here wil be okay
[01:21] <lifeless> I dont know, I did not write that
[01:22] <ddaa> I wrote it. But from the spec you wrote.
[01:22] <ddaa> I have no idea what this branch starring stuff is.
[01:22] <lifeless> stars was a mark thing
[01:22] <lifeless> like 'important branches'
[02:02] <robaqqq> hi all
[02:04] <robaqqq> i'm playing with rosetta right now and have a problem: i remeber translating some command, but dont remeber exact translation. since i need to keep consistency i want to find it. is it possible to search for all occurences of term in1 program and 1 language?
[02:05] <robaqqq> hmm... is it channel for ghosts and bots only?
[08:50] <Arclite> It's sunday.
[08:52] <Nafallo> indeed
[09:04] <cprov> ehe and my lappy still burning ... what conference !!!
[12:40] <Lathiat> any rosetta people about?