[10:56] <chid> I haven't installed firefox from a deb ever
[10:57] <uni4dfx> no--name oh really
[10:57] <ppdog> really?
[10:57] <Gnea> no--name: yes there is.
[10:57] <no--name> Gnea, chid: I want to run 32bit ff on 64bit ubuntu
[10:57] <chid> Gnea: he installed it form the website
[10:57] <Gnea> !info firefox
[10:57] <c0rrupt0r> Hey there, I am trying to install ubuntustudio-graphics on ubuntu 10.10 Maverick and I continue to get this error: ubuntustudio-graphics:
[10:57] <c0rrupt0r>  Depends: gimp but it is not going to be installed
[10:57] <c0rrupt0r>  Depends: gimp-gap but it is not going to be installed
[10:57] <c0rrupt0r>  Depends: gimp-plugin-registry but it is not going to be installed
[10:57] <c0rrupt0r>  Depends: gimp-ufraw but it is not going to be installed
[10:57] <FloodBot3> c0rrupt0r: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:57] <c0rrupt0r> Any Help Would be Appreciated Thank you.
[10:57] <chid> no--name: tar -xvf firefox+tab
[10:57] <Gnea> no--name: oh.
[10:57] <no--name> Gnea: I couldnt find the deb on the website, do you know exactly where it is?
[10:57] <chid> then cd into the directory
[10:57] <chid> and type ./firefox
[10:57] <Gnea> no--name: on what website?
[10:57] <uni4dfx> no--name packages.ubuntu.com
[10:57] <no--name> uni4dfx: ahh, ok
[10:57] <chid> the mozilla.org website :D
[10:58] <markodoom> morning all
[10:58] <no--name> yea, lol
[10:58] <Gnea> never assume. :)
[10:58] <chid> yeah no--name, yeah I've only installed firefox from there :D
[10:58] <no--name> k :)
[10:58] <perscitus1> i newed help. Compiz broken  because im idiot here told me tojust install Unity from Mavericks repo.
[10:59] <chid> perscitus1: what distro are you using?
[10:59] <markodoom> i've installed netbook version of ubuntu 10.10, all is working except the wifi. can't get it to connect to my router, keeps saying bad password when i know I've typed it correctly. any ideas on what's wrong?
[10:59] <perscitus1> Ubuntu
[10:59] <Gnea> no--name: not sure if that'll work, but it ought to... haven't done a 32bit FF on 64bit, nor had a reason to
[10:59] <perscitus1> duh
[10:59] <ppdog> any one know why I cannot compile vim from a .tar.gz ?
[10:59]  * Gnea looks at chid
[10:59] <no--name> o
[10:59] <no--name> ok *
[10:59]  * chid looks back at Gnea
[10:59] <ppdog> ./configure always say error
[10:59] <chid> I've never done it either, but it's pretty simple to test, just type ./firefox
[10:59] <Guest49093> ppdog, it c=shold be in synaptics
[10:59] <chid> markodoom: since it says bad password, maybe you have a bad password :p
[11:00] <petan> ppdog: what error
[11:00] <Gnea> perscitus1: is compiz still broken if you make a new account and login with it?
[11:00] <salvita> ola
[11:00] <markodoom> no chid, i've carefully typed it and it still wont correct :(
[11:00] <chid> Gnea: how does logging in affect compiz?
[11:00] <petan> ppdog: you probably miss some dependencies, check if Config is not there
[11:00] <ppdog> no terminal library found
[11:00] <ppdog> checking for tgetent()... configure: error: NOT FOUND!
[11:00] <chid> markodoom: that's strange, because it would seem like your drivers are working if they can detect the network and *attempt* to connect
[11:00] <ppdog>       You need to install a terminal library; for example ncurses.
[11:00] <ppdog>       Or specify the name of the library with --with-tlib.
[11:00] <kinder> moro
[11:00] <FloodBot3> ppdog: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:01] <jrib> ppdog: stop pasting in the channel.  What are you compiling?
[11:01] <Gnea> chid: many settings are often stored in a users home directory. creating a new user creates a fresh directory, where conflicting settings aren't likely to cause an error
[11:01] <ppdog> ok, I am sorry
[11:01] <kinder> callate
[11:01] <chid> Gnea: with unity?
[11:01] <petan> ppdog: you don't have tlib install it wirh apt
[11:01] <salvita> ola moro
[11:01] <Monotoko> hmmm...is there any way to configure webmin for Ubuntu?
[11:01] <chid> is it worth making an ubuntu unity account?
[11:01] <petan> ppdog: why you compile it btw
[11:01] <markodoom> yup, still not making any headway though
[11:01] <Gnea> chid: no idea, I don't use 10.10
[11:01] <ppdog> tlib?
[11:01] <Monotoko> or does the root account need to be active?
[11:01] <jrib> !webmin | Monotoko
[11:01] <kinder> que dices
[11:01] <Gnea> uh, unity is a GUI
[11:01] <Gnea> right?
[11:01] <jrib> !es | kinder
[11:01] <kinder> si homre..
[11:01] <Monotoko> jrib, thanks
[11:01] <Gnea> !unity
[11:01] <chid> Oh, alright Gnea, I'll probably stick with my windows 7 then :p
[11:02] <salvita> ay asta monos
[11:02] <kinder> Hello
[11:02] <chid> oh, Gnea I got it confused with ubuntu one
[11:02] <Monotoko> jrib, is there anything equivilant?
[11:02] <perscitus1> back. I tried compiz --replace but fatal error and screen locked.
[11:02] <Gnea> chid: perhaps you should stick with #windows then :p
[11:02] <jrib> !es | salvita
[11:02] <andresyopipirule> ira los  moros estos
[11:02] <jesuxiito> jfcvbn<snxfbhjvbg
[11:02] <jesuxiito> fv
[11:02] <jesuxiito> f
[11:02] <jesuxiito> d
[11:02] <andresyopipirule> con
[11:02] <jesuxiito> d
[11:02] <kinder> Hello
[11:02] <FloodBot3> jesuxiito: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:02] <andresyopipirule> la polla
[11:02] <salvita> hhello
[11:02] <jrib> Monotoko: ebox like ubottu said ;)
[11:02] <kinder> My name is Kinder
[11:02] <chid> hehehi kinder
[11:02] <ppdog> what is terminal library?
[11:02] <perscitus1> Gnea,  Compiz error said there is already managing window manager on 0:0
[11:02] <Monotoko> jrib, ubottu didn't say anything about ebox
[11:03] <andresyopipirule> putos moros
[11:03] <chid> ppdog:  it says ncurses as an example
[11:03] <chid> from what you pasted
[11:03] <andresyopipirule> g
[11:03] <andresyopipirule> g
[11:03] <andresyopipirule> g
[11:03] <andresyopipirule> g
[11:03] <andresyopipirule> g
[11:03] <andresyopipirule> rf
[11:03] <salvita> illo
[11:03] <chid> sudo apt-get install ncurses
[11:03] <FloodBot3> andresyopipirule: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:03] <kinder> chid yu are staff?
[11:03] <Gnea> perscitus1: how are you trying to login?
[11:03] <salvita> son moros
[11:03] <jrib> Monotoko: weird I thought it used to
[11:03] <chid> kinder: no
[11:03] <chid> jrib: is though
[11:03] <andresyopipirule> d
[11:03] <andresyopipirule> d
[11:03] <andresyopipirule> d
[11:03] <FloodBot3> andresyopipirule: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:03] <jesuxiito> los muertos de los moros
[11:03] <chid> wow, that's quite a random bot
[11:03] <jrib> oh...
[11:03] <petan> ppdog: libacl, libc, libncurses do you have all of that
[11:03] <chid> jesuxiito: please use english
[11:03] <perscitus1> Gnea,   ubuntu login like always
[11:03] <jesuxiito> bfdbaiJAFVKSÑWG
[11:03] <jesuxiito> GB
[11:03] <jesuxiito> FG
[11:03] <jesuxiito> GH
[11:03] <jesuxiito> G
[11:03] <FloodBot3> jesuxiito: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:03] <jesuxiito> F
[11:03] <sipior> lovely
[11:04] <chid> mode +m!
[11:04] <chid> I find it amazing how there are so many spammers on freenode
[11:04] <petan> ppdog: libacl, libc, libncurses do you have all of that
[11:04]  * sipior is reminded to renew is internet vermin hunting licence
[11:04] <jrib> chid: it's some classroom in spain....
[11:04] <quiescens> +m frankly isn't worthwhile unless its like, hundreds of clients doing something
[11:05] <Gnea> jrib: some kid probably downloaded some bots...
[11:05] <perscitus1> Gnea,  So whats causing Compiz after installing and removing Unity?
[11:05] <c0rrupt0r> Hey there, I am trying to install ubuntustudio-graphics on ubuntu 10.10 Maverick and I continue to get this error: ubuntustudio-graphics: Depends: gimp but it is not going to be installed Depends: gimp-gap but it is not going to be installed Depends: gimp-plugin-registry but it is not going to be installed Depends: gimp-ufraw but it is not going to be installed any hits or help would be great thank you
[11:05] <JPSman> How can I be sure than clamAV's virus definitions are up to date??
[11:05] <quiescens> otherwise setting +m pretty much does the a better job of disrupting the channel than the spammers could have done
[11:05] <Gnea> perscitus1: I'm not sure, TBPH
[11:05] <shai__> Hi :) How can I password protect and existing password-less private key? So that I don't have to create a new one and deploy it to all the existing remote servers that have my public key.
[11:05] <ppdog> petan: ppdog: libacl, libc, libncurses do you have all of that                            I don't have any idea about these
[11:05] <chid> c0rrupt0r: have you tried installinggimp?
[11:05] <chid> sudo apt-get install gimp
[11:05] <perscitus1> Gnea, english... please
[11:05] <kinder> This is?
[11:05] <petan> ppdog: you need those to compile vim
[11:06] <Gnea> JPSman: by installing clamav-freshclam
[11:06] <petan> ppdog: or you can type apt-get install vim
[11:06] <ppdog> then how to?
[11:06] <Gnea> perscitus1: it is english: TBPH = To Be Perfectly Honest
[11:06] <kinder> Alors on danse (8)
[11:06] <kinder> A love dance
[11:06] <JPSman> Gnea: yeah I know that, but - how can I be sure that there is a team working on brand new virus-definitions all the time?
[11:06] <perscitus1> ANYONE please help fix Compiz after Unity failed install and removed?
[11:06] <Gnea> JPSman: by paying attention to your logs
[11:06] <ppdog> yeah, I can install it by apt-get ,but I don't know why I cannot compile
[11:07] <chid> perscitus1: you could try reinstall gnome
[11:07] <petan> because you don't have all libraries
[11:07] <chid> or just remove all your gnome settings
[11:07] <ppdog> how to get the libs, please?
[11:07] <perscitus1> chid,  how
[11:07] <Gnea> JPSman: if you tail -f to your clamav logfiles, you'll notice that it updates on a daily basis and gives you the # of definitions
[11:07] <quiescens> people should really understand that reinstalling packages generally never affects *user* settings
[11:07] <c0rrupt0r> chid: yes I tried installing gimp so many different ways. even with a .deb file and no can do i get this error: Can not install 'gimp' (E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.)
[11:08] <chid> quiescens: I'm sure you can set it so it removes setting files as well
[11:08] <chid> c0rrupt0r: sudo apt-get check
[11:08] <JPSman> Gnea: who is maintaining up to date versions of viruses?
[11:08] <icarus-c> ppdog, search in the repo first
[11:08] <perscitus1> I do know 11.04 will be the release allot of people leave Ubuntu
[11:08] <Gnea> JPSman: the virus writers
[11:08] <quiescens> to my knowledge there is no setting that will cause apt-get to remove user settings because they are kept in a user's home
[11:09] <ppdog> ok, thank you
[11:09] <JPSman> Gnea: er, I mean, the virus definitions for anti-viruses
[11:09] <Gnea> JPSman: the clamav people :)
[11:09] <eraggo> perscitus1: why?
[11:09] <perscitus1> Gnome-Shell and Unity are worthless piece ofgarbage that is completely unusable.
[11:09] <icarus-c> perscitus1, waw you can see future!!
[11:10] <Gnea> perscitus1: why I've stuck with 10.04
[11:10] <icarus-c> perscitus1, you could replace those with what you like but
[11:11] <icarus-c> and is unity really going to be the default interface next(or near future) release?
[11:11] <perscitus1> icarus-c,  According to Mark
[11:11] <icarus-c> iirc they want to replace xorg with wayland too :P
[11:12] <c0rrupt0r> chid: sudo apt-get check Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done...all i get after is the same each time still
[11:12] <chid> I'm not sure c0rrupt0r
[11:12] <perscitus1> icarus-c,  its time for kde
[11:12] <chid> have you tried updating
[11:12] <icarus-c> perscitus1, eh.... you could really stick to classic gnome interface i suppose
[11:13] <c0rrupt0r> chid: THank you for your help
[11:13] <icarus-c> just replace gnome-shell or unity or whatever with what you want
[11:13] <perscitus1> icarus-c,  but no new features. just bugs. andeventually less and less of that
[11:13] <icarus-c> but kde is kind of neat :P
[11:13] <chid> c0rrupt0r: can't you just reinstall from the ubuntu studio iso?
[11:13] <perscitus1> Gnome3 is march release
[11:14] <chid> I get the feeling that linux people reinstall more often than windows people, though maybe I'm wrong :D
[11:15]  * Gnea hasn't reinstalled in over a year
[11:15] <pankaj> nick pankaj_sharma
[11:15] <Yancho> should I go for a netbook / desktop version of ubuntu on this one? HP Compaq nc4010 / 12" / Pentium M 1.6Ghz / 32MB Shared VGA / 1GB ram. Will be used for viewing dvd's / youtube / easy browsing by my dad.
[11:16] <quiescens> most likely desktop
[11:17] <useresu> Try the Lice CD or Windows installation to easily test if it suits for your machine
[11:17] <Yancho> ok quiescens  thanks
[11:17] <Yancho> ok useresu .. my dad is quite limited in knowledge .. but has been working on 9.10 quite ok
[11:18] <useresu> I have ubuntu W7 dualboot. Is there a program to run Windows 7 INSIDE Ubuntu?
[11:19] <ectospasm> useresu: virtualbox
[11:19] <ectospasm> useresu: but it won't be your dual-boot Win7 copy
[11:19] <no--name> uni4dfx: I do I uninstall teh 32bit firefox I just installed?  I rather not then
[11:24] <nikkon> no u can creat virtual image
[11:24] <nikkon> and inside install any OS u wnt
[11:24] <nikkon> for example win 7
[11:24] <nikkon> so when u boot linux GUI
[11:24] <nikkon> run virtualbox
[11:24] <useresu> Ive passed the 4 partition limit
[11:24] <nikkon> and run the image so u will have linux GUI and in virtualbox win7
[11:24] <nikkon> simultaneously
[11:24] <nikkon> u can switch to full screen
[11:25] <nikkon> u will bridge the nic its is perfect
[11:25] <useresu> okay i dont really understand all the terms, link?
[11:26] <nikkon> http://www.junauza.com/2010/01/how-to-install-windows-7-on-ubuntu.html
[11:26] <useresu> OK, but how can i install it there if i dont have the disc? :(
[11:27] <nikkon> u dont have win 7 disk ?
[11:27] <nikkon> cd/dvd I mean
[11:27] <useresu> No
[11:27] <shai__> How do I "release" a saved password for my ssh id_rsa key from ssh-agent ?
[11:27] <nikkon> ah
[11:28] <nikkon> u have to create it
[11:28] <useresu> HP is great!
[11:28] <nikkon> it is really easy
[11:28] <useresu> What do you mean 'create it'?
[11:28] <useresu> From existing partition?
[11:28] <nikkon> nope
[11:28] <nikkon> in your case
[11:28] <nikkon> virtualbox
[11:29] <useresu> huh?
[11:29] <nikkon> will just take space from your current linux partitution
[11:29] <nikkon> dude u dont have to create nothing
[11:30] <nikkon> virtualbox is doind it for u
[11:30] <nikkon> u r just saying
[11:30] <nikkon> ok I want to creat virtual image for windows 7 for example 10GB
[11:30] <useresu> virtual image?
[11:30] <nikkon> and u are selecing /dev/sda3- ext4
[11:30] <nikkon> and creating fucking file - image
[11:30] <nikkon> and this is your virtual hdd where u can install/mange win7
[11:31] <nikkon> it is a file
[11:31] <nikkon> and u can select to which directory to put it
[11:31] <icarus-c> 10GB for win7 :o
[11:31] <nikkon> for example :)
[11:31] <useresu> okay...........
[11:32] <Gnea> !language | nikkon
[11:32] <nikkon> mryn
[11:32] <nikkon> :)
[11:33] <Gnea> ?
[11:36] <Krishnandu> Hey guys this is not directly related ubuntu, but what are my scopes in GUI programming?? I mean in Windows we use Visual Studio(VB / C#), what should I learn in Linux??
[11:38] <icarus-c> Krishnandu, gtk+ , qt, wxwidget.... etc
[11:38] <nikkon> Krishnandu, in world of open source
[11:39] <icarus-c> Krishnandu, and for the language, C, C++, python, ruby, perl, java ..... many
[11:39] <nikkon> only in BSD port colleciton of application is more than 25 000
[11:39] <Krishnandu> icarus-c, gtk+ for GNOME, qt for KDE right??
[11:39] <nikkon> just imagine that u cant modify src of all those stuff and play with it
[11:39] <icarus-c> Krishnandu, not exactly.  but GNOME uses gtk+,  and KDE uses Qt
[11:40] <icarus-c> Krishnandu, but doesn't mean that you can't build/use Qt apps on GNOME or  Gtk+ apps on KDE
[11:40] <Krishnandu> okies...looks like thrilling...so what should I choose?? Anyone of them??
[11:40] <Krishnandu> I'd like to use C
[11:40] <Krishnandu> which is better for n00b?? qt ot gtk+??
[11:41] <Dracco> Hello folks. I have a question. I set up samba server on xubuntu and added a printer to share. Sadly, I have to type "sudo service smbd restart" each time I log in. Can I automate it somehow? If it was for me I wouldn't see a problem, but this is pc in a company I work for and they don't really like non-automated stuff.
[11:41] <icarus-c> Krishnandu, Gtk+ is written in C
[11:41] <kazagistar> Krishnandu: Qt, it is far better documented and object oriented
[11:41] <greemor> \join#1111
[11:41] <icarus-c> Krishnandu, Qt written in C++ and it doesn't officially support C
[11:42] <Krishnandu> icarus-c, hmm....can't decide which one to use
[11:42] <icarus-c> gtk+ is object oriented too :(
[11:42] <icarus-c> Krishnandu, coin flips
[11:42] <icarus-c> Krishnandu, or think about the license
[11:43] <Krishnandu> icarus-c, No idea about license...I'm starting this 1st time....u suggest :P
[11:43] <Krishnandu> I'm comfortable in both C, C++ and Java...but don't know ruby, perl, but I learnt Python from online documentation
[11:43] <icarus-c> LGPL for gtk+ ,  Qt dual licensed - commercial & LGPL for open source
[11:44] <icarus-c> Krishnandu, that means if you want to use Qt to write closed source software, you have to buy a license from nokia
[11:44] <icarus-c> and i've heard it is expensive
[11:44] <icarus-c> correct me if i'm wrong
[11:44] <Krishnandu> you mean if I don't provide the source code if I use qt, i need to buy the license??
[11:45] <icarus-c> Krishnandu, iirc yes
[11:45] <bursihido> i am getting this error when i m trying to run vmware (vmware-modconfig:17381): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[11:45] <icarus-c> Krishnandu, i'm not sure. check out qt licensing doc
[11:45] <bursihido> i also tried recomplie vmware modules
[11:45] <Krishnandu> icarus-c, ok, so which is easier?? qt or gtk+?? Or wxwidgets??
[11:45] <icarus-c> Krishnandu, http://qt.nokia.com/products/licensing/
[11:46] <magentar> you can use the lgpl version for commercial products too
[11:46] <Krishnandu> hmm
[11:46] <magentar> they changed from gpl to lgpl when nokia overtook trolltech
[11:46] <icarus-c> Krishnandu, i'm not knowledgeable enough to answer that. and i haven't use wxwidget at all.  but from my experience, both are good.  but if you do C,  gtk+ is probably the best option
[11:46] <Its-me-again> i am debating to install mint 10 or ubuntu maveric
[11:46] <magentar> commercial version is only for support
[11:47] <Fuh-zz> the only reason I knew of to install mint was the nonfree candy
[11:47] <Fuh-zz> you have the option to do so in Ubuntu 10.10 now
[11:47] <icarus-c> Its-me-again, simple, you ask here you install ubuntu,  you ask in #linuxmint,  you install mint
[11:47] <Krishnandu> ok.....so the thing I should look at docs and support?? qt or gtk+?? Which has better docs to learn for a complete n00b knowing C, C++, Java etc. and irc and other support if I stuck??
[11:48] <Krishnandu> icarus-c, magentar ^^
[11:48] <icarus-c> between, i think i've heard that mint is going debian instead
[11:48] <magentar> QT works better for crossplatform apps and has a richer feature set
[11:48] <magentar> gtk+ is more straight forward perhaps, simpler, fits best in GNOME
[11:48] <icarus-c> Krishnandu, both are equally fine in my opinion. but some say Qt is better documented, and sweeter for cross-platform dev
[11:49] <Krishnandu> okz...then let's start with qt...
[11:49] <theholder> Does anyone have any idea why Ubuntu 10.04 freezes on a Compaq Evo N1015V
[11:49] <icarus-c> Krishnandu, but as i say.... they are almost equally good
[11:49] <chid> any programs, theholder  or is it just freezing?
[11:49] <ectospasm> theholder: could be a memory problem
[11:50] <theholder> it freezes to a blank screen with a flashing caps lock key
[11:50] <ectospasm> theholder: definitely a memory or memory controller problem.  Try memtest86+ or mprime
[11:50] <bombshell> Maximum number of clients reached
[11:50] <chid> oh, I have a question about suspend and hibernate, are there any simple fixes/ways to troubleshoot the issue, it doesn't return back to the desktop on hibernate and suspend, just a black screen
[11:50] <bombshell> (chromium-browser:10549): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[11:51] <theholder> Thankis chid
[11:51] <bombshell> I'm having this issue when I try to open any app
[11:51] <icarus-c> Krishnandu, oh betwee.  Qt convention is more like Java, and Gtk+ is more unix-style
[11:51] <Its-me-again> icarus-c: ok mint it is then
[11:51] <Krishnandu> icarus-c, Means??
[11:51] <icarus-c> Krishnandu, i mean coding style/convention. if it matters
[11:51] <Krishnandu> icarus-c, Ohh...
[11:51] <theholder> chid: where do i run these from bash?
[11:51] <chid> what are you running?
[11:52] <bombshell> I have know idea for it reach maximum clients
[11:52] <chid> I was listing another problem
[11:52] <chid> that I haven't solved
[11:52] <theholder> ?
[11:52] <ectospasm> theholder: memtest86+ is a boot utility that tests RAM.  You'll find it on the LiveCD
[11:53] <theholder> ok
[11:53] <theholder> thanks
[11:53] <ectospasm> theholder: mprime is a utility which you can use to stress test your system
[11:53] <ectospasm> theholder: http://www.mersenne.org/
[11:53] <ectospasm> theholder: use that if memtest doesn't return any errors
[11:54] <ectospasm> theholder: be sure you let memtest run for at least one full pass;  all errors will be listed in red, and shouldn't clear after a full pass is completed
[11:54] <ectospasm> ...although if you get enough errors it will scroll off the screen, theholder
[11:54] <chid> ectospasm: anything about hibernation/suspend resuming?
[11:55] <ectospasm> chid: sorry, I usually don't use those features.
[11:55] <chid> alright
[11:55] <ectospasm> chid: I've always heard those features are problematic, though they've gotten much better
[11:55] <chid> it wasn't problematic for me in the past
[11:55] <chid> but with 10.10 it broke
[11:55] <ectospasm> chid: it's my understanding that the underlying system must be well represented by Linux drivers
[11:55] <icarus-c> chid, what about them
[11:56] <chid> icarus-c: well I get a black screen when I resume
[11:56] <icarus-c> chid, what video driver
[11:56] <chid> icarus-c: how do I find out
[11:57] <theholder> Thanks for all your help chid and ectospasm
[11:57] <ubuntu> Hi guys
[11:57] <ubuntu> how to reload grub?
[11:57] <chid> you mean reinstall?
[11:57] <chid> Do you know if you're running grub or grub2?
[11:57] <ectospasm> ubuntu: you mean after you've made changes to the config?  update-grub
[11:57] <icarus-c> chid, /var/log/Xorg.*.log   should give you some clue
[11:57] <chid> http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBUQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FRecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows&rct=j&q=windows%20reinstall%20ubuntu&ei=O8PjTJeWPM7IcZHY4fQL&usg=AFQjCNHW_iMjuSRvjNQIsiNTcFcjic1m5Q&sig2=7sRs0OTOIbpjo-1QBPsmWw&cad=rja
[11:57] <chid> sorry
[11:58] <chid> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:58] <chid> that explains a lot
[11:58] <ubuntu> no i have installed XP
[11:58] <gccster> guys is it possible to create an installation image of my current installation so i can install again to other pcs?
[11:58] <chid> gccster:
[11:58] <chid> yes
[11:58] <gccster> how?
[11:58] <icarus-c> ubuntu, and WIndows overwritten the boot loader. and you want to install grub over it again right
[11:58] <Krishnandu> icarus-c, Can I design the interface like I do in VS in both qt and gtk+??
[11:59] <chid> system-> administrator -> startupdiskcreator
[11:59] <icarus-c> Krishnandu, yea
[11:59] <chid> sorry icarus-c  still reading the log file
[11:59] <Krishnandu> Okies
[11:59] <aeMaeth> i'm going to surf in my windows vm for  while, see what diseases i get
[11:59] <icarus-c> Krishnandu, Glade for gtk+ and  Qt Designer
[11:59] <hariom> Hi, I see that what ever I type on my ubuntu system is getting logged in .bash_history
[11:59] <hariom> how to stop that
[12:00] <chid> change a setting in .bashrc
[12:00] <Krishnandu> icarus-c, Okies...thanks...I'll check them both
[12:00] <icarus-c> ubuntu, <chid> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:00] <chid> I forget what it is
[12:00] <hariom> Even if I write an email it gets logged in .bash_history
[12:01] <chid> you can just set the size to 0
[12:01] <chid> don't know what the param is, maybe MAX_SIZE or something
[12:01] <gccster> chid, theres no such option
[12:01] <Bruce_Wayne> While installing "BURG" i'm getting this screen... http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/2328/screenshotr.jpg  what should I do?
[12:01] <chid> why do you send emails from bash
[12:01] <sraue> hariom add a "space" before the first command you write
[12:02] <chid> export HISTSIZE=0
[12:02] <chid> add that to your .bashrc
[12:02] <hariom> sraue: I didn't get what you mean
[12:02] <chid> uh icarus-c , I'm using [    15.519] (II) intel: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G,
[12:03] <bazhang> Bruce_Wayne, using burg from where? repos?
[12:03] <c0nv1ct> hariom, http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/SECURITY_Bash_History_Functions
[12:03] <chid> it's not an option
[12:03] <chid> it's a program
[12:03] <c0nv1ct> hariom, that may be of use to you, but sraue is correct, you can prepend a space to your command and it will skip the shell history
[12:03] <chid> c0nv1ct: I think he wants to disable all of them
[12:03] <chid> so histsize is the easiest way
[12:04] <Bruce_Wayne> bazhang: Yes, from repos.
[12:04] <icarus-c> hariom, you may export HISTFILE=0 or HISTFILE=/dev/null in bashrc   .  see man bash
[12:04] <bazhang> Bruce_Wayne, there is no 'burg' in the repos
[12:04] <Bruce_Wayne> I added ppa
[12:04] <chid> gccster: It's in System->Administration->StartUp Disk Creator
[12:04] <chid> maybe you have to find it in the repos and instlal it first
[12:04] <bazhang> Bruce_Wayne, perhaps you mean an unsupported 3rd party PPA
[12:05] <bazhang> Bruce_Wayne, in which case, you should contact the PPA maintainer as that has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[12:05] <hariom> icarus-c, chid, c0nv1ct: ok. Looking at that. But isn't it possible that commands I type on command line only gets logged. Not the other text I write in text files etc.
[12:05] <Bruce_Wayne> bazhang: I tried to follow this... http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/get-animated-themed-icon-only-grub-menu-using-burg-now-simple-to-use/
[12:06] <icarus-c> hariom, don't know what you are saying. but by default bash log last 500 lines you entered to bash prompt to ~/.bash_history
[12:07] <seven_> ai
[12:07] <redcap> a
[12:08] <hariom> icarus-c: currently even it logs the text i type in my email. Also the chat I do messanger
[12:08] <chid> what the heck
[12:08] <chid> how do you make it do that
[12:08] <chid> are you sending emails in terminal?
[12:08] <icarus-c> hariom, how you invoke the mail agent or messenger?
[12:08] <chid> echo "message" | sendmail myfriend@email ?
[12:08] <chid> I'd say D:
[12:09] <lapion> hariom, why do you think bash logs those ?
[12:09] <hariom> chid: nope. Yahoo email text I see on my command line when I press up arrow.
[12:09] <chid> yeah
[12:09] <chid> but that's not logged..
[12:09] <hariom> yea logged. I can see that in cat ~/.bash_history
[12:10]  * icarus-c is super thirsty
[12:10] <chid> drink then
[12:10] <chid> anyway, goodnight.
[12:10] <hariom> This is very strange as I never saw this before in my other linux machines
[12:13] <rethus> someone would know this issue in Knetworkmanager: "network disabled" after suspend 2 disk. reason is /var/lib/Networkmanager/NetworkManager.state... set NetworkingEnabled=true.
[12:13] <rethus> but what can i do to do this every bootup, iff i'm back up from suspend2disk?
[12:13] <yuxi588> hao
[12:14] <gccster> anybody can tell me application to create an image of my current installtion of ubuntu so i can install it to another system?
[12:14] <bazhang> !clone | gccster
[12:14] <icarus-c> !remaster
[12:14] <aguitel> how install java ?
[12:14] <bazhang> gccster, if you want a bootable iso you might look at remastersys
[12:15] <bazhang> aguitel, enable partner repo
[12:15] <bazhang> !partner > aguitel
[12:15] <gccster> thx
[12:15] <gccster> all
[12:15] <hariom> Following recommended way from this: http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/SECURITY_Bash_History_Functions
[12:15] <aguitel> bazhang, NOTHING MORE?
[12:16] <bazhang> !java | aguitel
[12:21] <blackshirt1> !partner > ubottu
[12:21] <Bruce_Wayne> what is the command to know hard drive details through a terminal?
[12:22] <bazhang> Bruce_Wayne, sudo lshw might show something
[12:23] <Bruce_Wayne> bazahang: No, not lshw... I want to know about partitions and all that...
[12:23] <rethus> this issue in Knetworkmanager: "network disabled" after suspend 2 disk. reason is /var/lib/Networkmanager/NetworkManager.state... set NetworkingEnabled=true. but is automaticly set to false every suspend2disk. how can i solve this?
[12:23] <bazhang> !blkid
[12:25] <VirUs> jjj
[12:26] <Ben604> heeeeeeeeello
[12:27] <rethus> aloa
[12:27] <Ben604> does anyone have any experience running ubuntu within hyper-v, behind an internet proxy?!
[12:28] <Ben604> we're struggling to access the outside world :(
[12:32] <pale> I need to insert some text in file which is fisrtly filterd by grep and saved to file add, grep -A4 "searching" `find ~ -name \user.reg -print` > add , and then insert previously filtered text from add file to user.reg before patern [ SOFTWARE ] which can be found in user.reg
[12:33] <Bruce_Wayne> how can I know in which partition my current grub2 is installed?
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> Bruce_Wayne:  'sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc'  shows me what ones grub is installed on..
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> Bruce_Wayne:  not sure if that shows grub2 and grub1 or just grub2
[12:33] <jrib> pale: you should probably give some sort of example, I can't follow what you want
[12:33] <pale> Bruce_Wayne,  df /boot
[12:35] <pale> jrib, ok, so i want to apped some text file to file user.reg | so my question is can sed be used to append text from one file to another if so please show example
[12:36] <Bruce_Wayne> pale: Thanks. That shows my where my ubuntu is installed.. Are you sure in the same partition grub should be installed?
[12:36] <cast> cat append.this.file >> to.this.file
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> Bruce_Wayne:  you can have grub installed other places ont he MBR then /boot/ the grub FILES however are in /boot/
[12:37] <c0rrupt0r> Hello, I have a problem installing Gimp. I seem to get an error while it asks me to install gimp-plugin-registry E: /var/cache/apt/archives/gimp-plugin-registry_3.5.2-1~webupd8~maverick_i386.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/file-xmc', which is also in package gimp 2.7.3-2010110501~mm
[12:38] <domenico_> ciao a tutte
[12:38] <pale> Bruce_Wayne, no i prefer to install grub on separate partion, example ubuntu system will be instaled in /dev/sda2 , boot partition where is grub stored /dev/sda1 and home in /dev/sda3
[12:38] <LjL> !it | domenico_
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> c0rrupt0r:  remove the gimp 2.7.3 package first perhaps..  or it could be a bug in the webupd8 package.
[12:38] <cryptk> ok, dumb question, how do I change my primary monitor? I am on meerkat
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  what video card/chipset?
[12:38] <cryptk> I have two screen side by side, ubuntu is using the left one as primary, I would like it to be the right one instead
[12:38] <pale> jrib, did you understand me?
[12:39] <cryptk> Dr_Willis,  oooh... lemme see, it is a built in card on a laptop... one moment
[12:39] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller from lspci
[12:40] <Bruce_Wayne> pale: Do you know how to install "BURG"... cause I have to enter one command... at this screen.. http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/2328/screenshotr.jpg
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:   For my laptop. I had to use the monitors  tool in the system menu to set them up. I dont recall having to select which one was primary/secondary.
[12:40] <Bruce_Wayne> and I've been trying to find a solution what to enter there.
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> Bruce_Wayne:  theres a 'how to install burg' wiki/guides. and theres a 'burg' helper tool that can install and confifgure burg at the omgubuntu or webupd8 web site i saw last week
[12:40] <cryptk> yes, I was able to use that to have them not be mirrored, but it won't let me change the primary screen... it moved my panels, conky, everything to the left one, but I need it to all be on the right one
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> Bruce_Wayne:  the burg helper tool seemed to work very well.
[12:41] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, so I have a working side by side setup, just the wrong one is primary
[12:41] <SeMeKh> Banshee's DBUS (MPRIS) seems broken (it doesn't send SongName+Artist+Album name, the rest is fine) any idea?
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  for my nvidia cards i have to use the nvuidia control panel. :) so i cant even see what the settings are in system -> pref-> monitors
[12:43] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, yep, and that is how I did it on my home computer, but my work laptop has dual screens now (well 3, but at work on the docking station I leave the laptop closed)
[12:43] <cryptk> hrm... guess I could just re-arrange my desk so i can use the left one as primary... hold one...
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  could be the docking station is causing some default changes.. ive not used one of those.
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> Bruce_Wayne:  http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/burg-manager-10-released-with-option-to.html
[12:46] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, it isn't that the primary screen changed, I just now added the second screen, wanted to use the right screen as the primary (because of how my desk was arranged, it made more sense)
[12:47] <domenico__> utte
[12:47] <Bruce_Wayne> Dr_Willis: Your last link is way beyond awesome.. Thank you very much! Last question... Should I just close that terminal window, which is in the progress of BURG?
[12:48] <slyyijian0> hello
[12:48] <ubuntu> HI i reloaded grub after installing windows but when i booted my sytem there was an error17 flashing on my screen
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> Bruce_Wayne:  progress of what?  that tool proberly installs the same deb burg packages. it has a feature that does the 'apt-get install burg' stuff basically
[12:49] <ubuntu> So again i booted with live cd but there is no ubuntu partion visible
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> Bruce_Wayne:  but there was no need to install the burg packages brfor hand with that tool.
[12:49] <ubuntu> can somebody help me
[12:49] <ubuntu> ?????????????????????????????????
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  for starters pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> for the channel to see.
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> slyyijian0:  ask your question to the channel and see who can help
[12:51] <ubuntu> when i give that command it shows an partition but i cant mount it
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  use pastebin.. dont msg me.
[12:52] <GauravButola> I cant enable wobbly windows, help plz
[12:53] <suku> I did "sudo apt-get install build-essential autoconf automake libxmu-dev gcc-4.3", I need to modify "ns-allinone-2.34/otcl-1.13/Makefile.in", where is it installed ??? :(
[12:53] <ubuntu> Ok this is what i got http://pastebin.com/szihSVxU
[12:54] <ubuntu> and my ubuntu partition is in XFS format
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm | GauravButola
[12:54] <suku>  I did "sudo apt-get install build-essential autoconf automake libxmu-dev gcc-4.3", I need to modify "ns-allinone-2.34/otcl-1.13/Makefile.in", where is it installed ??? :(
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> suku:  do a 'sudo updatedb' then use the locate command to find files.
[12:55] <ubuntu> Can anybody help me??????????
[12:55] <veoto> Anybody have experience installing simple scalar in the most recent desktop ubuntu?
[12:55] <GauravButola> !compiz
[12:55] <Tashia> I have a question about mksquashfs. I'm trying to make a custom livecd from scratch and so far its good. But mksquashfs will halt at 42%
[12:56] <GauravButola> I have compiz installed but when I change the effects, my title bore disappears
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  so if you do a 'sudo mount /dev/sda3  /mnt/   it gives an error or not?
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> GauravButola:  thats compiz c4rashng for some reason then.
[12:57] <hceasy> hellow everyone
[12:57] <ubuntu> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[12:57] <GauravButola> Dr_Willis: what can i do then? compiz has always worked fine for me, this time i installed it using dpkg from the archive of my other desktop
[12:57] <ubuntu> this is what i got
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  so use -t xfs if its xfs like you said.
[12:58] <aguitel> i install java with this command :sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts ,but java is not working ,anybody know ?
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> GauravButola:  no idea. I dont use the wobbly windows.. and i only use minimal compiz plugins.
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> GauravButola:  compiz was installed bu default on ubuntu.. so what Exactly DID you install?
[12:58] <GauravButola> compiz config settings
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  add -t xfs after the /mnt/
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> !mount | ubuntu
[12:59] <Tashia> How do I get mksquashfs to stop freezing at 42%?
[12:59] <GauravButola> Dr_Willis: compiz setting manager
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> GauravButola:  you could install and run the 'fusion-icon' tool that might restart compiz if it crashes.
[13:00] <hceasy> who can speak chinese?
[13:00] <veoto> I'm coming away with a libgcc1 error after make LANGUAGES="c c++" CFLAGS=-O3 CC=gcc-3.3... any thoughts?
[13:00] <veoto> this is inrelation to installing simple scalar
[13:00] <GauravButola> Dr_Willis: thanks doc ;) I'll try that
[13:00] <eriksson25> I am missing my /lib/modules/2.6.35-22-generic How can I reinstall it?
[13:01] <ubuntu> i didnt get anything okay
[13:01] <ubuntu> cant you give the command to mount
[13:01] <ubuntu> ?????????
[13:02] <jahbulon> hey
[13:03] <veoto> hi
[13:03] <eriksson25> I am missing my /lib/modules/2.6.35-22-generic How can I reinstall it?
[13:03] <jahbulon> i've installed a program .. name is clive .. for download videos from youtube ... the problemisi can't fin the executable ... how can i find it ?
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  'sudo mount -t xfs /dev/sda3  /mnt/ ' Logical eh?
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  why did you use xfs anyway
[13:04] <ubuntu> Simply
[13:04] <llutz> jahbulon: clive: /usr/bin/clive
[13:04] <jahbulon> i will check 10x
[13:04] <ubuntu> Willis its not working
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  now whats the error?
[13:06] <ubuntu> http://pastebin.com/P0MYXEzB
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  thats the generic 'somthing is wrong' error...
[13:07] <veoto> I'm trying to install simple scalar. I've used several tutorials at this point, and I can't seem to get it working. Has anyone already been through this that could shed some light on my current error?
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  any sort of error messages at the end of the 'dmesg' command output?
[13:08] <ubuntu> no nothing else
[13:09] <distant2> does ubuntu desktop 10.10 have multi language support?
[13:10] <distant2> can i choose a different language for the UI and all other than english?
[13:10] <ubuntu> So what to do now?cant i get that partition????????????
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  are you really really sure its xfs?
[13:10] <ubuntu> yeah
[13:10] <distant2> are there many languages please?
[13:11] <goshawk> hi
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  could filssytem check the filesystem --> sudo fsck.xfs /dev/WHATEVERTHEDEVICEIS
[13:11] <goshawk> is there a ppa with a brand new 3.7 kernel with the autogrup sheduler patch applied ?
[13:11] <distant2> can i install ubuntu on a new laptop which has a HDD that has never been formatted?
[13:12] <petan> distant2: yes
[13:12] <goshawk> distant2, of course
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> goshawk:  i just saw a ppa search tool --> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/y-ppa-manager-easily-search-add-remove.html
[13:12] <ubuntu> If you wish to check the consistency of an XFS filesystem or
[13:12] <ubuntu> repair a damaged filesystem, see xfs_check(8) and xfs_repair(8).
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  i guess you use those commands instead of fsck.xfs
[13:12] <distant2> petan, goshawk, your yes answers my 1st or 2nd question?
[13:12] <petan> distant2: for both
[13:13] <goshawk> both
[13:13] <distant2> heh. ok.
[13:13] <goshawk> Dr_Willis, thanks it seems good
[13:13] <goshawk> but i'm wondering if anyone here already did it
[13:13] <ubuntu> this is what i gave fsck.xfs /dev/sda3
[13:14] <goshawk> Dr_Willis, you know... this patch is going to fill a lot of topics all the linux world
[13:14] <gamerpro2000> Hey guys, I have a bug report that I opened about a week ago.  It hasn't had any activity and I've been updating it pretty much daily.  Does anyone know how I can escalate it?
[13:14] <veoto> so no for simple scalar.. well have a good morning guys I'm going to try to get an hour or two of sleep before class.
[13:15] <webroasters> hi guys. is there a place where i can find out where to analyze access.log files from an ubuntu server. I just want to know what each part of each line means. thx
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  and the command said that you should be using 'xfs_check' or 'xfs_repair' instead.
[13:15] <gamerpro2000> webroasters, if you find out let me know.  I've been trying to get someone to look at my bug report for over a week
[13:15] <webroasters> ok, i will
[13:16] <webroasters> forexample, I just want to analyze the following line: <IP_ADDRESS> - - [21/Aug/2010:05:40:58 +0000] "GET /wp-content/themes/twentyten/style.css HTTP/1.1" 200 5672 "-" "Baiduspider+(+http://www.baidu.com/search/spider.htm)"
[13:16] <kindlebit> how to install komodo ?
[13:16] <webroasters> Obviously, it's an ip address, followed by other information
[13:16] <webroasters> duh
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> !info komodo
[13:16] <webroasters> but what i want is a detail report about each bit of info
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> kindlebit:  and whats komodo?
[13:16] <jahbulon> i didn;t find thisexecutable program .. i used comand clive: /usr/bin/clive  .. terminal says .. clive command not found ?
[13:17] <jahbulon> what shall i do now ?
[13:17] <kindlebit> dr_willis : its a editor
[13:17] <llutz> jahbulon: sudo apt-get install clive
[13:17] <gamerpro2000> Dr_Willis, its a text editor for programming languages.  Mostly CSS, HTML, Javascript, etc.
[13:17] <ubuntu> Thanks dude
[13:17] <webroasters> ok thx guys
[13:17] <kindlebit> can anybody tell me if it does not come with package ?
[13:18] <ubuntu> well now how to reload grub????????
[13:18] <gamerpro2000> More info on Komodo can be found here: http://www.activestate.com/komodo-edit
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> kindlebit:  there may  be a wiki page on the topic. or the programs homepage may give info. or ther emay be PPA's of it.
[13:18] <kindlebit> how to install komodo ?
[13:18] <ubuntu> HEy willis there?
[13:18] <jahbulon> llutz: itis installed .. it say or to up or to remove it
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> kindlebit:  search for a ppa for it. check getdeb.net, check the forums.
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | ubuntu
[13:18] <comm0de> http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/e7hr4/perfect_solution_for_defeating_the_tsa_on_optout/ lol
[13:18] <llutz> jahbulon: use " /usr/bin/clive" to call it
[13:19] <llutz> jahbulon: "clive" without path should do aswell
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> ubottu:  read the URLS's the bot just gave on the topic
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu: :  read the URLS's the bot just gave on the topic
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  and you may want to change to a differnt Nickname. /nick PickSomthing
[13:20] <ubuntu> well i after doing that only i got the error 17
 nothing .. it says nothing

[13:20] <llutz> jahbulon: read "man clive"
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  and did you use those xfs 'fix' commands that the fsck.xfs command mentioned to verify your XFS is all 'good' ?
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  has this system ever worked?
[13:21] <ubuntu> yeah
[13:21] <ubuntu> yes
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> if the xfs fix commands said ok.. try remounting the partition.
[13:21] <petan> ubuntu: what is your issue
[13:22] <ubuntu> yeah i mounted the partition
[13:22] <hariom> In need to disable Immediate-Configure in apt.conf but unable to find where is apt.conf?
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  so look on the partition? see if your files are in fact there? see if theres a /boot/ directory on the partition also.
[13:22] <hariom> Getting errors while apt-get and also a message to see Immediate-Configure. man page says to try with disabling this option
[13:22] <whytenoiz> hariom: find / -name "apt.conf"
[13:22] <llutz> hariom: configs are in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[13:22] <hariom> In which file to disapble this
[13:23] <ubuntu> yeah everything is fine
[13:23] <hariom> I don't have any apt.conf in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  so if you can now mount it.. it might boot properly. have you tried rebooting since youve done the 'fix' ?
[13:23] <llutz> hariom: just create a new file and add your option, if none of the existing files have the option already set
[13:23] <ubuntu> no
[13:24] <hariom> llutz: what is the format?
[13:25] <llutz> hariom: read "man apt.conf"
[13:25] <hariom> ok
[13:26] <ubuntu> Hi willis this is what i did http://pastebin.com/3YJFQ10N
[13:26] <ubuntu> do you think it will work now?
[13:27] <hariom> llutz: once added into apt.conf how to activate this settings?
[13:28] <hariom> I still get error while apt-get and it says to look for Immediate-Configure in man 5 apt.conf
[13:28] <hariom> In man page it says to disable it which I did by Get{Immediate-Configure "false"}
[13:28] <Kurdistan> hey guys I need help. this is my pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/533452/
[13:29] <llutz> hariom: they'll be read when apt runs
[13:29] <gamerpro2000> I wish someone would fix my bug :(
[13:30] <petan> gamerpro2000: tell me more mabout
[13:30] <Shinka> I'm using Audacious, by mistake I removed the upper menu (with File, View, et cetera) and I can't get it back ! I even tried reinstalling but to no avail.
[13:30] <gamerpro2000> petan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/674112
[13:30] <hariom> llutz: but I still get error
[13:30] <llutz> hariom: isn't it " APT::Immediate-Confifure "false" "
[13:30] <gamerpro2000> petan: There is extensive notes in there
[13:31] <llutz> Configure*
[13:31] <petan> gamerpro2000: try proprietary driver
[13:31] <gamerpro2000> Already did
[13:31] <gamerpro2000> Had more problems
[13:31] <gamerpro2000> Screens would randomly dire upon logout
[13:31] <gamerpro2000> *die
[13:31] <petan> gamerpro2000: seame problems?
[13:31] <gamerpro2000> Not the same
[13:31] <gamerpro2000> just more problems
[13:31] <FloodBot3> gamerpro2000: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:32] <gamerpro2000> Had more problems with the proprietary driver than I did with the radeon driver
[13:32] <petan> gamerpro2000: all machines have same gc
[13:32] <gamerpro2000> Correct
[13:32] <gamerpro2000> I have 50 of them
[13:33] <gamerpro2000> or more.  I lose count.
[13:33] <gamerpro2000> I didn't build them.  The previous network administrator built these machines.  I simply am taking over in day-to-day operations
[13:34] <petan> gamerpro2000: does it die after login
[13:34] <gamerpro2000> petan: with which driver?
[13:34] <petan> gamerpro2000: you said it happens with both of them
[13:34] <petan> gamerpro2000: I mean if it die only after you login to session
[13:34] <gamerpro2000> Startup fails with the radeon driver causing the segmentation fault.
[13:35] <gamerpro2000> Like, powering on and initializing the displays.  However, the fglrx driver, machines would go to log out and the screen would go black.  The screen would stay powered, but it wouldn't log out gracefully, forcing us to reboot the entire machine.
[13:36] <gamerpro2000> Among other weird bugs, like freezing the whole machine upon logout and giving a "SOFT_LOCKUP" error
[13:36] <petan> gamerpro2000: you have configuration for fglrx but you load radeon
[13:36] <gamerpro2000> petan: What do you mean I have configuration for fglrx?
[13:36] <gamerpro2000> Where are you seeing this?
[13:36] <petan> gamepro2000: that is proprietary driver, in xorg.conf
[13:37] <petan> gamepro2000: config is generated by autoconfig
[13:37] <petan> gamepro2000: I would purge fglrx and radeon out and make new installation of driver
[13:37] <gamerpro2000> petan: I load "radeon" and "glx"
[13:37] <hariom> llutz: I have tried this: $sudo apt-get -o APT::Get::Immediate-Configure="false" dist-upgrade
[13:37] <gamerpro2000> Where are you seeing a propreitary driver being loaded?  Can you give me a line?
[13:37] <coz_> For 7000 to HD4xxx series cards, you can use the open source "radeon" driver. HD2xxx and later series cards are also supported by the proprietary "fglrx" driver.
[13:38] <hariom> but I still get errors. No effect observed.
[13:38] <petan> gamepro2000: I see, but you have previously fglrx installed, they should not be installed both they conflict
[13:38] <llutz> hariom: try       -o APT::Immediate-Configure="false"
[13:38] <gamerpro2000> petan: They are not.  I used the uninstall script included with the driver package to remove it.  Where are you seeing this?  I need a line on the pastebin's.
[13:38] <bastardchild1982> anybody know how to take off the extra stuff in the grub. i have ubuntu, and mint on here
[13:38] <petan> gamerpro2000: not loaded but xorg.conf was generated by ait-config
[13:38] <llutz> hariom: afaik "Immediate-Configure" is an own group like GET
[13:39] <Andria> Bonjjour
[13:39] <gamerpro2000> petan: Those are just identifiers.  I just left them saying "aticonfig-0 whatever"
[13:39] <hariom> llutz: Still no effect observed and get same error
[13:39] <gamerpro2000> petan: They don't have any bearing on the drivers
[13:39] <petan> gamerpro2000: that mean you previously installed fglrx then this driver keep a lot of other binaries even if you switch it to radeon
[13:40] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, I got it! I made a small bash script, has an if statement checking the output of xrandr, if it says that the monitor is conencted then it runs xrandr --output HDMI1 --primary
[13:40] <llutz> hariom: no idea then, sorry
[13:40] <bastardchild1982> grub help...
[13:40] <hariom> llutz: Actually by mistake I deleted /var/lib/dpkg directory
[13:40] <cryptk> put the same thing in /etc/gdm/Init/Default as well
[13:40] <hariom> and from then onwards getting this error. I have created dpkg/ status and updates/
[13:41] <hariom> but getting same error
[13:41] <bastardchild1982> i want to delete the safemode stuff in my grub
[13:41] <gamerpro2000> petan: I did previously have fglrx installed, but as I said I used the uninstall script included with the .deb that ATI provided to remove all traces of it.  Then, to be sure, I ran sudo apt-get --purge remove fglrx
[13:41] <cryptk> thing is, with it just in the /etc/gdm script it should stay that way, unless something changes it... but upon login it would go back wrong again...
[13:41] <gamerpro2000> which didn't do anything, but I wanted to be sure nothing was left
[13:41] <aim__> народ
[13:41] <c0nv1ct> bastardchild1982, GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_RECOVERY="true"  in your /etc/default/grub
[13:41] <aim__> ой, тут все на басурманском..
[13:41] <oshin> hi, is it bad that fdisk -l show the end of another partition == start of another?
[13:41] <c0nv1ct> bastardchild1982, then update-grub2
[13:41] <gamerpro2000> aim__ switch to russian
[13:41] <cryptk> tried putting it in a ~/.xprofile, and it would run the code (I checked by having it touch a file) but something would set it back wrong again afterwards
[13:42] <petan> gamepro2000: what happen if you install fglrx and try to perform sudo aticonfig --initial
[13:42] <edz> i have a question im a newbie at this but under system>preferences>appearance>visual effects i want to choose normal and it works but i have to redo it everytime ???
[13:42] <bastardchild1982> slow down where do i find that stuff
[13:42] <oshin>  /dev/sda1   *           1        6079    48827392   83  Linux
[13:42] <oshin> /dev/sda2            6079       12158    48828416   83  Linux
[13:42] <cryptk> had to make the bash script and set it in startup applications to get it to be reapplied again AFTER whatever is changing it back
[13:42] <edz> i have a question im a newbie at this but under system>preferences>appearance>visual effects i want to choose normal and it works but i have to redo it everytime ???
[13:42] <oshin>  /dev/sda1   *           1        6079    48827392   83  Linux
[13:42] <c0nv1ct> bastardchild1982, i said where, /etc/default/grub
[13:42] <oshin>  /dev/sda2            6079       12158    48828416   83  Linux
[13:42] <gamerpro2000> petan: one moment.  It shouldn't do anything
[13:42] <oshin> 6079 == 6079, is that bad?
[13:42] <gamerpro2000> petan: aticonfig: command not found
[13:43] <c0nv1ct> bastardchild1982, it is a text file, open it as root with your favorite editor, add the line i mentioned to it and run `sudo update-grub2`
[13:43] <petan> gamerpro2000: hm, what if you install it and try it then, is it same segmentation fault
[13:44] <cryptk> anyone know what would be overriding my ~/.xprofile?
[13:44] <petan> (II) RADEON(0): Setting screen physical size to 508 x 285
[13:44] <edz> i have a question im a newbie at this but under system>preferences>appearance>visual effects i want to choose normal and it works but i have to redo it everytime ???
[13:44] <petan> gamerpro2000: that is last
[13:44] <petan> gamerpro2000: action done then it crashes
[13:45] <oshin> edz: wasn't there a dialog asking you to confirm you want to stick with it?
[13:45] <bastardchild1982> ok i found it. now what do i do again
[13:45] <edz> i have a question im a newbie at this but under system>preferences>appearance>visual effects i want to choose normal and it works but i have to redo it everytime ???
[13:45] <edz> i have a question im a newbie at this but under system>preferences>appearance>visual effects i want to choose normal and it works but i have to redo it everytime ???
[13:45] <edz> yes
[13:46] <edz> sorry for posting again and again didnt think it was going through
[13:46] <gamerpro2000> petan: The segmentation fault started occurring when I switched to the radeon driver.  Once I removed the fglrx driver, I switched the line for loading fglrx to loading radeon.  Then I made a few changes to kdmrc and such to get the multiseat working and that's when startup began having issues.
[13:46] <edz> and it worked
[13:46] <edz> but
[13:46] <edz> it resets to none automatically
[13:46] <edz> ?
[13:46] <c0nv1ct> bastardchild1982, GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_RECOVERY="true"  <- add that as a new line at the end
[13:46] <petan> gamerpro2000: can you undo the changes to kdmrc
[13:46] <oshin> no idea then.
[13:46] <gamerpro2000> petan: I already tried it.  No avail.
[13:47] <edz> ok thank you
[13:47] <petan> gamerpro2000: switch to fglrx
[13:47] <petan> gamerpro2000: then do
[13:47] <edz> also, which is more stablme with ubuntu 10.10, ATI graphics or Nvidia?
[13:47] <petan> gamerpro2000: sudo aticonfig --initial
[13:47] <gamerpro2000> edz: nvidia
[13:47] <doltox> Hi, i'm looking for some support with ubuntu, is there the right place ?
[13:47] <bastardchild1982> it won't let me type in there
[13:47] <petan> gamerpro2000: it will generate xorg.conf
[13:47] <miguel000> What can I do, to make my ubuntu also boot when I set AHCI mode (for my sata drive in the bios). Because it freezes during startup now. Only works in IDE mode.
[13:47] <oshin> nvidia is a bit buggy here.. but i doubt that ati is better.
[13:48] <miguel000> anoyone any ideas?
[13:48] <miguel000> or experiencing same problems?
[13:48] <edz> ok gamerpro thanks i have ATI which explains the lag in VLC i suppose and playback in general how can i be sure i have the latest drivers or is there a way i can know which exact settings to change in ATI catalyst?
[13:48] <oshin> edz: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5048310
[13:48] <oshin> may that thread useful? using gconftool-2
[13:49] <c0nv1ct> bastardchild1982, you must be doing something wrong then.  open a terminal and type `sudoedit /etc/default/grub`  and edit the file that way
[13:49] <oshin> edz: er, n/m
[13:49] <bastardchild1982> i just installed this a sec ago.
[13:50] <bastardchild1982> i don't see any terminal
[13:50] <[mors]> hi
[13:50] <[mors]> gnome's network manager's vpn config dialog has pap, eap and chap greyed out... why ?
[13:50] <k_sze> Is there some software that can enhance a Ubuntu server as a file server?
[13:50] <edz> @oshin lol
[13:50] <edz> yeah it doesnt apply here
[13:51] <edz> ATI is getting on my nerves, for the most part everything is pretty stable just minor things that anger me
[13:51] <bastardchild1982> ok i found the terminal
[13:51] <edz> @oshin are u on ati or nvidia chipset?
[13:52] <oshin> edz: nvidia
[13:52] <sete213> hello
[13:52] <edz> so i suppose u wouldnt know which settings i can change in ati catalyst to make the experience more stable?
[13:52] <edz> or in the terminal
[13:52] <oshin> edz: no idea..
[13:52] <edz> got ya
[13:52] <llutz> k_sze: use nfs/samba
[13:53] <oshin> ati is the first entry on my avoid list.
[13:53] <bastardchild1982> do i just close it afterwards or i have to save it some way
[13:53] <edz> yeah i installed ubuntu on my last comp, ati too so i took a big leap of faith installing it again here but its working pretty well
[13:54] <bastardchild1982> X^X
[13:54] <k_sze> llutz: Yes, I know a bit about samba. But I'm talking about something in the direction of an indexer or something, possibly with a nice searching gui.
[13:54] <edz> are the latest drivers for ati necessarily implies more stability with ubuntu 10.10
[13:54] <jan-bas> hi
[13:54] <wessel> janbas
[13:54] <edz> and if so how can i through the terminal get the latest drivers for my chipset
[13:54] <jan-bas> hey wessel
[13:54] <wessel> heey allemaal
[13:55] <edz> ati mobility radeon 4200
[13:55] <jan-bas> who plays ps3 black ops?
[13:55] <wessel> hello?
[13:55] <popey> bastardchild1982: hi, you might want to consider changing your nickname to something a bit more family friendly in this channel.
[13:55] <llutz> !ot | jan-bas wrong channel
[13:55] <edz> haha
[13:55] <jan-bas> try
[13:55] <jan-bas> ty
[13:55] <bastardchild1982> how do i close this terminal after putting that info in.
[13:55] <edz> anyone have an answer for me?
[13:56] <edz> who knows ati catalyst settings well?
[13:56] <bastardchild1982> ok
[13:56] <oshin> edz: you could try blender channel
[13:56] <bastardchild1982> popey, i would but i don't know how.
[13:56] <mori64> why i can't right click on my desktop ?
[13:56] <A_New_Server> Actionparsnip, are you on?
[13:56] <popey> bastardchild1982:  /nick <newnickname>
[13:57] <petan> bastardchild1982: /nick
[13:57] <bastardchild1982> where's that
[13:57] <IdleOne> /nick newnick
[13:57] <oshin> edz: don't forget to lie you are a blender user.
[13:57] <petan> bastardchild1982: type it
[13:57] <popey> bastardchild1982: you can type that right here
[13:57] <petan> bastardchild1982: as message
[13:57] <IdleOne> in the irc window
[13:57] <bastardchild1982> ummmmmm
[13:57] <A_New_Server> Eh nevermind, my Ubuntu won't start up and it was having problems the last time before I shut it down, is there a way to fix errors that won't let it start without reinstalling?
[13:57] <edz> u mean #blender?
[13:57] <bastardchild1982> nothing happened
[13:58] <petan> bastardchild1982: type /nick user50
[13:58] <ummmmmmmm> how's that
[13:58] <petan> bastardchild1982: or this
[13:58] <petan> ummmmmmmm: that is ok
[13:58] <IdleOne> thank you
[13:58] <ummmmmmmm> ok, so
[13:58] <ummmmmmmm> how about this grub then
[13:58] <ummmmmmmm> how do i get out of the terminal
[13:58] <petan> ummmmmmmm: exit command
[13:58] <edz> @oshin sorry for being such a noob but whats blender exactly?
[13:59] <ummmmmmmm> and save the changes i made. i can't do nothing.
[13:59] <petan> ummmmmmmm: what changes which terminal
[13:59] <szpuni> hey all
[13:59] <edz> @oshin sorry for being such a noob but whats blender exactly?
[13:59] <c0nv1ct> bastardchild1982, did you run `sudo update-grub2` after you edited the file?
[13:59] <szpuni> anybody played with UCK for ubuntu?
[13:59] <popey> thanks ummmmmmmm
[14:00] <Jackel> its a 3d modeling program>
[14:00] <bastardchild1982> after edit i don't wanna push the wrong button to exit out the editting
[14:00] <edz> btw whoever wants to run microsoft word 2007 on ubuntu go get playonlinux!
[14:00] <bastardchild1982> do i just click the x
[14:00] <szpuni> i wish to change boot screen i mean options and timeout did anybody have played with that?
[14:00] <Robinux> OMG! my ubuntu.iso just got screwed up when i had reached 98% of the download
[14:00] <c0nv1ct> bastardchild1982, no, press ctrl-x to exit the editor, press y to save
[14:00] <Robinux> shit :(
[14:00] <c0nv1ct> bastardchild1982, press y when asked to save i mean
[14:00] <Robinux> i need a torrent
[14:01] <IdleOne> !language | Robinux
[14:01] <petan> ummmmmmmm: you mean linux terminal or grub
[14:01] <bastardchild1982> now what
[14:01] <bastardchild1982> yeah
[14:01] <c0nv1ct> bastardchild1982, run the command `sudo update-grub2`
[14:01] <c0nv1ct> bastardchild1982, once that is done, it should be as you want... reboot to check
[14:01] <A_New_Server> My Ubuntu won't start, what are some possible causes?
[14:01] <bastardchild1982> i'm still in the screen
[14:02] <c0nv1ct> bastardchild1982, in the editor?
[14:02] <bastardchild1982> yes
[14:02] <Robinux> IdleOne, sorry its just frustrating :)
[14:02] <c0nv1ct> bastardchild1982, press ctrl-x
[14:02] <petan> A_New_Server: what is sais
[14:02] <petan> *says
[14:02] <A_New_Server> petan: what?
[14:02] <petan> A_New_Server: when you boot
[14:02] <Robinux> idefine, so where do i find the torrent
[14:02] <ZykoticK9> A_New_Server, the BOFH answer might be "solar flares".  joking obviously.  sorry man it could be a lot of things!
[14:02] <A_New_Server> petan: It shows words that go by too fast to read and then it's just a blank screen
[14:02] <bastardchild1982> yeah, and now i got 7 more options afterwards
[14:03] <IdleOne> Robinux: releases.ubuntu.com
[14:03] <Robinux> IdleOne, the torrent download is not on the main download page?
[14:03] <bastardchild1982> gethelp, cancel dos format
[14:03] <bastardchild1982> mac format
[14:03] <bastardchild1982> append prepend backup file
[14:03] <mori64> why i can't right click on my desktop ?
[14:03] <c0nv1ct> bastardchild1982, huh? what the hell are you in?
[14:03] <|iR|Happy> anyone get 10.10 to run on a G4 Mac?
[14:03] <petan> A_New_Server: try to press ctrl alt f1
[14:03] <A_New_Server> Also, if it matters, I was having problems with programs not starting before I restarted
[14:03] <bastardchild1982> those are the options
[14:03] <bastardchild1982> after i hit control x
[14:03] <bastardchild1982> y
[14:03] <Robinux> IdleOne, thanks
[14:03] <petan> A_New_Server: or just hit some key
[14:04] <c0nv1ct> bastardchild1982, oh! lol press enter
[14:04] <A_New_Server> Hold on, vb is starting up
[14:04] <IdleOne> bastardchild1982: why do you now have two clients in here, one with the nick you were asked to change
[14:04] <c0nv1ct> bastardchild1982, it is asking for the filename to write, you want to keep it the same filename
[14:04] <bastardchild1982> o
[14:04] <hellyeah> hey
[14:04] <hellyeah> i am using ubuntu 9.04
[14:04] <bastardchild1982> ok, i'm back in
[14:04] <bonez2046> I just installed 10.10 on a box I had lying around.. it's installed OK, but the resolution is stuck at an unusable 800x600 max.. what is 10.10 using for the video? xorg? xserver? other?
[14:04] <bastardchild1982> hey i don't know
[14:04] <hellyeah> is there a way to consist shortcut for halt command
[14:04] <c0nv1ct> bastardchild1982, run the command `sudo update-grub2`
[14:04] <bastardchild1982> now about this grub
[14:04] <bastardchild1982> ok
[14:05] <bastardchild1982> one sec
[14:05] <Robinux> what does the alternate release mean?
[14:05] <FloodBot1> bastardchild1982: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:05] <[mors]> gnome's network manager's vpn config dialog has pap, eap and chap greyed out... why ?
[14:05] <petan> bonez2046: can you change it?
[14:05] <Robinux> semi desktop? semi server?
[14:05] <petan> bonez2046: or what is your graphic
[14:05] <ZykoticK9> !9.04 | hellyeah
[14:05] <A_New_Server> petan: It just checked for boot errors and now it's on the black screen, I pressed ctrl + alt + f1 and it's like a dos window
[14:05] <mori64> why i can't right click on my desktop ?
[14:05] <petan> A_New_Server: ok, log in
[14:05] <bonez2046> petan: the video is on MOBO.. I haven't run lspci yet. but yeah, I can change it, just unsure which file it is with 10.10..
[14:06] <petan> bonez2046: but what chip
[14:06] <bastardchild1982> ok, now let me try
[14:06] <ZykoticK9> mori64, are you using Gnome?  Do you have any icons on your desktop (or can you drag'ndrop an icon onto desktop?)
[14:06] <petan> A_New_Server: you have what graphic card
[14:06] <A_New_Server> Error: BrokenCount > 0run-parts: /etc/update-motd.d/90-updates-available-exited with return code 255
[14:06] <|iR|Happy> I need to make my own distro
[14:06] <|iR|Happy> end of story...
[14:07] <x3> guys who can recommand the best download manager for ubuntu
[14:07] <petan> A_New_Server: when?
[14:07] <petan> A_New_Server: you see that
[14:07] <|iR|Happy> in terms of?
[14:07] <|iR|Happy> @x3
[14:07] <A_New_Server> petan: Right after putting in name/password
[14:07] <x3> able to resume downloads no connectiom trouble etc
[14:07] <LjL> !best | x3
[14:07] <|iR|Happy> like a torrent client?
[14:07] <bonez2046> petan:  it's an intel 82815 controller
[14:07] <petan> A_New_Server: ok but now tell me what graphics you have
[14:08] <|iR|Happy> I would say transmisson
[14:08] <petan> bonez2046: do you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:08] <|iR|Happy> and dl google chorme
[14:08] <|iR|Happy> it has the ability to pause and resume dl's
[14:08] <bonez2046> petan: checking now1
[14:08] <petan> bonez2046: check for proprietary drivers please
[14:09] <A_New_Server> petan: NVIDIA GeForece 6150SE nForce 430
[14:09] <petan> A_New_Server: do you have nvidia driver installed
[14:09] <petan> A_New_Server: type sudo gmd start
[14:09] <petan> A_New_Server: type sudo gdm start
[14:10] <Jackel> Uh minor issue lol, My headphone jack stopped working with Ubuntu the other day
[14:10] <A_New_Server> petan: Are you going to be on in like an hour?
[14:10] <ZykoticK9> A_New_Server, petan i think you want "sudo service gdm start"
[14:10] <petan> A_New_Server: meybe
[14:10] <bonez2046> petan: I run the hardware driver applet from main menu and none show up
[14:10] <bonez2046> petan: nor do I have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:10] <petan> bonez2046: and that conf
[14:10] <bonez2046> petan: xsession BUT not xorg
[14:11] <petan> bonez2046: xorg.conf is there?
[14:11] <bonez2046> petan: xorg.conf is NOT in that folder, no
[14:11] <petan> bonez2046: ok do you know your right resolution
[14:11] <A_New_Server> petan: I have to go, so if you're not on then, thanks for helping now :]
[14:12] <bonez2046> petan: yes, I know what resolution I want..
[14:12] <bonez2046> petan: do I have to manually build the .conf file?
[14:13] <joeoshawa> what's up
[14:14] <joeoshawa> anyone know about creating thin clients
[14:14] <petan> bonez2046: make that file and put what I pm you
[14:15] <weirdpercent> During my system boot, there are lots of blurbs about init scripts that have been converted to upstart jobs. is there an easy way to rewrite the init script commands to upstart commands so I don't get all those little blurbs?
[14:15] <joeoshawa> i was wondering what it would take to boot a thin client over a dsl connection
[14:17] <boobsbr> howdy
[14:17] <joeoshawa> howdy
[14:17] <petan> bonez2046: then you will need to restart x server
[14:17] <weirdpercent> yeehaw'
[14:19] <joeoshawa> i am not going to ask if thin client is possable over the internet of course it is i just want to know to set it up
[14:20] <boobsbr> I'm trying to install ubuntu 9.10 server i386 on a VirtualBox VM and the networking just does't work (either dhcp or manually), but it works on a desktop install on the same VM. Why does this happen?
[14:20] <jackriooer> ok, now i'm still nowhere with this grub
[14:20] <juk__> how to obtain package and dependancies to download only
[14:20] <jackriooer> still have a list of 6 when i only need 2
[14:20] <juk__> i need to install it on another pc
[14:20] <joeoshawa> i have ltsp setup and going i have both computers on dyndns do i just put the address in the bios of the client ?
[14:21] <Svr_Sakura> hiya all
[14:21] <sipior> joeoshawa: have a look here to get started: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
[14:21] <Svr_Sakura> is it normal for the cpu to be constantly at ~30% on an asuus eeepc 900HA?
[14:22] <joeoshawa> yeah i got that done but i didn
[14:22] <joeoshawa> didn't see anything about mobile thin client or over internet
[14:22] <juk__> how to transfer package on my pc, to another where's no inet
[14:22] <joeoshawa> but i will keep looking
[14:23] <joeoshawa> i am wondering if i have to change dhcp to accept a dns
[14:23] <joeoshawa> like myclient.dyndns.com
[14:23] <joeoshawa> or just point the bios and there you go
[14:24] <juk__> can i move package installed on my pc to another where's no internet to apt-get it
[14:24] <weirdpercent> is the ubuntu boot process *supposed* to look like this, with all the messages about init scripts being converted to upstart jobs? seems kinda sloppy to me...
[14:24] <LjL> juk__: if it's still in /var/cache/apt/archives, yes, but you need to take care of dependencies
[14:24] <LjL> !offline > juk__    (juk__, see the private message from ubottu)
[14:24] <mengu_> hi. is there a command to display an already running application? and also for hiding?
[14:25] <eriksson25> Anyone that can help me sort this out, Have been at it for 3h
[14:25] <boobsbr> I'm trying to install ubuntu 9.10 server i386 on a VirtualBox VM and the networking just does't work (either dhcp or manually), but it works on a desktop install on the same VM. Why does this happen?
[14:25] <eriksson25> make -C /home/eriksson25/s2-liplianin/v4l
[14:25] <eriksson25> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/eriksson25/s2-liplianin/v4l'
[14:25] <eriksson25> perl scripts/make_config_compat.pl /lib/modules/2.6.35-22-generic/build ./.myconfig ./config-compat.h
[14:25] <eriksson25> File not found: /lib/modules/2.6.35-22-generic/build/include/linux/netdevice.h at scripts/make_config_compat.pl line 15.
[14:25] <eriksson25> make[1]: *** [config-compat.h] Error 2
[14:25] <eriksson25> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/eriksson25/s2-liplianin/v4l'
[14:25] <eriksson25> make: *** [all] Error 2
[14:25] <FloodBot1> eriksson25: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:26] <ylmf> hello
[14:26] <ylmf> hello,
[14:27] <ylmf> 有人吗
[14:27] <nellaisamurai> hello
[14:27] <Svr_Sakura> is it normal for the cpu to be constantly at ~30% on an asus eeepc 900HA?
[14:27] <ylmf> 在线1544人？
[14:28] <ylmf> 走了
[14:28] <bindi> !cn
[14:30] <gamerpro2000> Sorry guys.  I got kicked due to internet trouble
[14:30] <gamerpro2000> I have another idea.  Does anyone know how to configure XServer and/or KDM to restart upon an error?
[14:31] <lutf1h4naf1> HUuuh
[14:31] <gamerpro2000> Anybody know how to configure Xserver to restart upon a failure?
[14:31] <Laura_morenita> hola
[14:31] <WorkingOnWise> is there a way for me to dictate what mouse buttons do what? I have a tablet pc and with the pen, only in unity, its like the interface gets the mousedown event but never gets the mouseup event, so in effect I cant left click.
[14:32] <jiffe99> how do I get 10.10 into single user?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[14:33] <Laura_morenita> hola
[14:33] <jiffe99> I can't get a grub menu to pull up
[14:34] <BluesKaj> jiffe99, hold the shift key down while booting
[14:34] <Laura_morenita> ay alguien spañol
[14:34] <Laura_morenita> ¿¿??????¿¿¿¿¿¿¿????????
[14:35] <WorkingOnWise> is there a way for me to dictate what mouse buttons do what? I have a tablet pc and with the pen, only in unity, its like the launcher gets the mousedown event but never gets the mouseup event, so in effect I cant left anything on the launcher with the pen.
[14:36] <Laura_morenita> noseeeeeeeeeeee
[14:37] <fluer> hi
[14:37] <blackshirt> hi
[14:37] <tarzeau> hi
[14:38] <nellaisamurai> hi
[14:40] <anta> nk
[14:40] <Krishnandu> How to begin gtk+ programming in Ubuntu?? sudo apt-get install what?? to compile programs??
[14:41] <tripelb> hello
[14:41] <c0nv1ct> Krishnandu, you should probably start with build-essential
[14:41] <blackshirt> hello
[14:41] <Krishnandu> c0nv1ct, I've that....now what should I need to compile gtk+ programming??
[14:42] <c0nv1ct> Krishnandu, are you sure you mean "compile" because you should have what is necessary after installing that
[14:42] <sipior> Krishnandu: libgtk2.0-dev, libglib2.0-dev, &cet.
[14:42] <tripelb> basic question: I searched for a file. I found it. I want to open the "containing folder".  HOW do I do this?
[14:43] <Krishnandu> c0nv1ct, It's not getting compiled, says gtk.h not found and some path problem with pkg-config
[14:43] <blackshirt> Krishnandu: install libgtk2.0-dev package
[14:43] <c0nv1ct> Krishnandu, ah, that is the key piece of information
[14:44] <Krishnandu> c0nv1ct, Blackguard Okies :)
[14:44] <wasutton3-lab> is there a little one liner that will remove the character \ from a file?
[14:44] <blackshirt> tripelb: use cd to change directory
[14:45] <Krishnandu> c0nv1ct, blackshirt Thanks :)
[14:46] <llutz> wasutton3-lab: sed -i 's/\\//g' foo
[14:46] <xiao> 00
[14:46] <blackshirt> key
[14:47] <Krishnandu> c0nv1ct, blackshirt Just in case...I want to learn GUI programming in Linux like I did in Visual Studio(VB/C#), so #ubuntu guys suggested me gtk+, qt. Can you guys suggest with your experience, which is better??
[14:47] <wasutton3-lab> llutz: Thank you, that worked perfectly
[14:47] <Krishnandu> c0nv1ct, blackshirt I just need (if I can get it here) code autocompletion, drag and drop GUI tools(buttons, imagebox, textbox etc)
[14:47] <boobsbr> I'm trying to install ubuntu 9.10 server i386 on a VirtualBox VM and the networking just does't work (either dhcp or manually), but it works on a desktop install on the same VM. Why does this happen?
[14:48] <blackshirt> Krishnandu: you can use kdevelop for qt development..
[14:48] <blackshirt> Krishnandu: for gtk+, maybe anjuta ide
[14:48] <Krishnandu> blackshirt, well...I cudn't decide which one to take in account, gtk+ or qt
[14:50] <blackshirt> Krishnandu: feel free to choose one of them..if you comfort with c++ language, maybe qt better for you..but if you prefer C style, maybe gtk+ suite for you
[14:50] <Krishnandu> I'm more comfortable in C comparing to C++
[14:51] <blackshirt> Krishnandu: i think you are better using GTK+..it was heavily developed in C-language
[14:52] <Krishnandu> blackshirt, I heard that I can use any language for both?? Is that right??
[14:52] <blackshirt> Krishnandu: yes, there are language binding for them..
[14:52] <tyrosine> USB HARD DRIVE BAD? -- I get a "device not accepting address 8, error -71" message (DMESG) when I plug it in - is it the drive or the USB controller built in? If it's the second, if I buy an identical USB hard drive (WD PASSPORT) and swap the drives, should it work?
[14:53] <tyrosine> MORE INFO: http://pastebin.com/y6w7ZCBQ
[14:53] <NetScr1be> good day all
[14:54] <floricienta> hello
[14:54] <blackshirt> Krishnandu: what application are you developing ??
[14:54] <floricienta> !list
[14:54] <Krishnandu> blackshirt, Thanks...please one more help...as you said to use drag and drop feature I need glade, how to install it?? Once I read somewhere glade works better with Anjuta, I've it installed
[14:54] <blackshirt> hello floricienta
[14:54] <NetScr1be> Ubuntu 9.04 has frequent lock-ups w/ process status of poll_schedule_timeout
[14:54] <Krishnandu> blackshirt, Nothing, actually in my office I need to develop the windows app's in Linux too...they use VS2005
[14:55] <wame> hi, is there a way to exclude a package from update / install in server mode ? i can do this under redhat with exclude in a conf file, but what about ubuntu ?
[14:55] <NetScr1be> the boards have a lot of questions but no answers on this topic
[14:55] <wame> without wahij or an external app
[14:55] <Krishnandu> blackshirt, I mean some client use linux, so we need to develop same app's in Linux too...
[14:55] <blackshirt> wame: yes, exactly..you can put a packages on hold
[14:55] <wame> blackshirt: dpkg or apt ?
[14:55] <erUSUL> !pinning | wame
[14:56] <blackshirt> Krishnandu: you mean glade for interface builder ??
[14:56] <wame> ubottu: well don't want to pin, for example i setup mysql with binary and not package
[14:56] <Krishnandu> blackshirt, yes...drag and drop gui tools??
[14:56] <NetScr1be> is there a way to find poll-schedule_timeout in the source and get some info on it from there?
[14:56] <wame> and do not want someone else do a apt-get install mysql ....
[14:57] <NetScr1be> wame that sounds a lot like pinning
[14:57] <NetScr1be> install the version you want and lock it with apt
[14:57] <blackshirt> Krishnandu: i think you need glade, or glade-gnome
[14:57] <wame> apt-get install <package> Downloads <package> and all of its dependencies, and installs or upgrades them. This will also take a package off of hold if it was put on
[14:58] <Krishnandu> blackshirt, Okies...lemme see
[14:58] <NetScr1be> not if it's locked
[14:58] <wame> well it bypass hold :)
[14:58] <NetScr1be> hjold is not lock
[14:58] <NetScr1be> pinning/locking tells the system not change away from a certain version
[14:59] <re_> hey
[14:59] <re_> am liek
[14:59] <NetScr1be> nobody knows anything about poll_schedule_timeout?
[15:00] <nickkontos> hello, ubuntu 10.10 here, my camera worked in previous versions and in windows (xp, 7 tested) but now cheese has black picture...
[15:00] <NetScr1be> what about waiting channel status in general?
[15:00] <re_> ca va
[15:01] <nickkontos> camera speedlink sl-6820
[15:01] <tmwnn> from the command line, how do I find out what devices are available to me mounted ?
[15:01] <nickkontos> already searched forums n stuf with no luck
[15:01] <llutz> tmwnn: "mount"
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> tmwnn:  sudo fdisk -l, can also show devices.
[15:02] <Dr_Willis> tmwnn:  mount shows curently mounted ones.
[15:02] <tmwnn> thank you guys!
[15:03] <itsme2010> I am unable to access this http://passportindia.gov.in/ website from ubuntu . But I am able to access this website from Windows?
[15:04] <shomon> can you explain a bit more please itsme2010 ?
[15:04] <shomon> what are you trying to do?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> itsme2010, which browser are you using ?
[15:04] <blackshirt1> itsme2010: i can access it from my system
[15:04] <BluesKaj> itsme2010, . works fine with FF
[15:05] <defunct> Hello, when installing PHP-APC for apache2 I get a whole bunch of segfaults. Any idea about this?
[15:05] <itsme2010> Sure, website does not opens for me, it just keeps loading.
[15:05] <erUSUL> itsme2010: it timeouts ? or what is the problem ? what version of windows?
[15:05] <defunct> apache segfaults I mean after browsing the site for a bit
[15:05] <itsme2010> I have tried Firefox, Opera and Chrome.
[15:06] <blackshirt1> itsme2010: works great on my google-chrome
[15:06] <KukuNut> itsme2010: pls call tech support in India
[15:06] <KukuNut> just kidding
[15:07] <itsme2010> its accessible in my windows 7, from same computer.
[15:07] <itsme2010> I am planning to format Windows 7, but I need to check my passport status.
[15:07] <mixaz> hi all, sorry for a lame question - I compiled and tested module for my SD reader, it works OK, but I do not how to load it at boot time. Googling says I need to add it to /etc/modules, but I believe I need to place it somewhere it can be picked up at boot time. Please advise
[15:08] <erUSUL> try this « echo 0 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling » and then (re)open firefox. try to access the page
[15:09] <BluesKaj> itsme2010, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restriccted-extras , I think it's flash or java that keeps trying to oad
[15:10] <itsme2010> I have ubuntu restricted extras installed on my computer.
[15:10] <BluesKaj> oops , itsme2010 , sudo aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras, ignore my previous post
[15:11] <BluesKaj> nm
[15:11] <BluesKaj> nm
[15:11] <BluesKaj> itsme2010, what about accept cookies settings ?
[15:12] <llutz> mixaz: place it in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/lib/  and run "sudo depmod -a" then
[15:12]  * hashashin nas
[15:12] <delfick> Hello, I found out it's possible to have files inherit the group of the directory their in. Is it also possible for the same effect but with group permisions ? So files created in this particular directory have g+w by default ?
[15:12] <itsme2010> I have not restricted any cookies from that website
[15:13] <erUSUL> delfick: no
[15:13] <erUSUL> delfick: well; no with traditional unix permissions. maybe with posix acl's you can i dunno
[15:13] <jiffe99> on a standard server install, what is /dev/sda2 usually used for?
[15:14] <savid> Any idea why my clock applet is a different color?  http://i.imgur.com/dw06b.png
[15:14] <delfick> erUSUL: mmkay, fair enough.... atleast +s exists, I can give files g+w without sudo once it has the group I want (www-data).... thanks for your help :)
[15:14] <ElNota> savid: Because it's "selected"
[15:14] <BluesKaj> itsme2010, obviously you have a plugin problem of some sort , but what it could be is a mystery to me ...I would update/upgrade then reinstll ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:15] <ElNota> savid: Just click in another place or restar gnome, it happens sometimes
[15:15] <savid> ElNota, how do I unselect it
[15:15] <erUSUL> delfick: adjust the umask of the processes users creating the files
[15:15] <savid> Hmm, it's been like that for quite a while.  Oh well.
[15:15] <delfick> erUSUL: problem is I only want it for files in my ~/web folder....
[15:15] <ElNota> savid: Clicking in desktop or in gnome bar, or in another icon...
[15:16] <mixaz> sorry for asking once more - where I should place a module (I compiled from sources) to be picked up at bootup?
[15:16] <savid> ElNota,  must be stuck then.  I tried removing and re-adding.
[15:16] <itsme2010> erUSUL: When I executed the command, it returned 0 in terminal and restarted firefox, chrome and opera. Still unable to access it.
[15:16] <Lufti> hello ;)
[15:17] <cordoval_> has anyone ripped a DVD on ubuntu?
[15:17] <ElNota> cordoval_: Yes
[15:17] <erUSUL> itsme2010: it was not that then undo the change  « echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling »
[15:17] <cordoval_> I am having a nightmare trying to rip a original DVD
[15:17] <ElNota> cordoval_: Oh, never tried original one
[15:17] <TritoLux> hello there, is this a good channel for UEC talks? I need some support
[15:17] <cordoval_> ElNota: hmmm
[15:18] <cordoval_> ElNota: this was able tobe ripped on premier adobe on windows
[15:18] <cordoval_> I am trying to do the 2nd DVD on ubuntu
[15:18] <MarkSS> Anyone know the name of a program for Ubuntu that can help me retrieve a deleted picture?
[15:18] <llutz> MarkSS: photorec
[15:18] <MarkSS> Thanks
[15:19] <Lufti> I've just upgraded a 10.04 Ubuntu to 10.10. No errors were displayed. But now, the Ubuntu freezes at the loading screen (some seconds after the file system check has finished). Does only react on CTRL+ALT+DEL. Any ideas?
[15:19] <dury> hi there channel :)
[15:19] <cordoval_> ElNota: hmm, the DVD does not even load properly
[15:20] <TritoLux> hello, is there anybody who has experience on cloud computing here?
[15:21] <irvken> I need to administer a microsoft cms website backend but get the error message in my browser - This administration system must be viewed in Microsoft IE 5.5 or better to upgrade please go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ how can I install IE on Ubuntu?
[15:22] <dury> I did install 10.10 but I get an error when I boot saying "disk out,," something like that and then rescue grub
[15:22] <Terp> irvken: I'd try to change my UserAgent instead.
[15:23] <dury> it was winxp pro before I use entire disk to install
[15:23] <dury> 10.10
[15:24] <goltoof> is there a way to restore proper permissions on a wordpress bog if i accidentally set all permissions to 777?
[15:24] <goltoof> *blog
[15:24] <dury> what could be the problem?
[15:24] <Lufti> irvken: try wine. It contains an IE as far as I know. Otherwise you can try to download a standalone version of a IE
[15:24] <goltoof> sorry.. wrong room
[15:27] <pankaj> how can i install turbo c compiler in ubuntu using wine
[15:27] <pankaj> ?
[15:28] <goltoof> pankaj:    why on earth would you do that?
[15:28] <pankaj> goltoof, dont give me vague answer
[15:28] <juk__> pankaj: you unleashed gcc???
[15:29] <pankaj> i need ide
[15:29] <juk__> pankaj: codeblocks
[15:29] <itsme2010> pankaj: You can install it using Dosbox Emulators or Dos emulator, available in Add/Remove programs
[15:30] <Sandking> hey
[15:30] <pankaj> itsme2010, ok
[15:30] <Sandking> under os x there's a nice tool where i can use specific part of the website as a widget - is there something similar under ubuntu?
[15:31] <Sandking> i need to monitor graph like this http://www.mbank.pl/indywidualny/inwestycje/sfi/fi.html?SRSU and i don't know what would be the best option
[15:31] <dury> did install ubuntu 10.10 without windows all, the entire disk for ubuntu and I got error when I boot :(
[15:32] <Magnum> dury: Did the install complete ok and what error do you get ?
[15:32] <itsme2010> pankaj: You will have to mount the folder containing Turbo C and install it or use it Plug and Play(directly using TC).
[15:32] <pankaj> itsme2010, got it buddy
[15:33] <Magnum> pankaj: What are you trying to do if i may ask ?
[15:33] <dury> Magnum: disk not found or something like that . Grub rescue>
[15:34] <itsme2010> pankaj: You will get instructions to mount a folder inside the software itself, if not Google it.
[15:34] <pankaj> itsme2010, ok
[15:34] <dury> Magnum: it doesn't boot
[15:34] <Magnum> dury: Then grub didnt install correctly. Did you use many partitions in custom mode ?
[15:35] <zani> hi I have a problem running jar files
[15:35] <kain> hello there. what's the equivalent of local6.*          /var/log/bluepill.log for rsyslog?
[15:35] <kain> just the same?
[15:35] <Magnum> dury: You need to boot rescue mode and then edit /etc/grub/grub.conf "hd (x.x)" so that it points to the correct partition and then reboot
[15:36] <Magnum> dury: Thats /boot/grub/grub.conf or so.
[15:36] <dury> Magnum: with live cd?
[15:37] <Magnum> dury: Thats /boot/grub/menu. will also be ok to edit.
[15:37] <Magnum> dury: You can do that from the original
[15:37] <Magnum> cd
[15:37] <samw> man, i am so frustrated with this audio problem :(  I have sound on the login screen, and even after i log in, but as soon as i launch a program that uses it like rhythmbox or flash in a browser it dies! and no more sound until reboot! >:(  Can anyone help please? :(
[15:37] <samw> Ubuntu 10.10
[15:38] <Magnum> dury: Scary isnt it, just a black thing that wont boot :) ... Generally its very easy.
[15:39] <dury> Magnum: yeah blank thing thatit says.... "grub rescue>"
[15:40] <Magnum> dury: type help... you can edit the grub startup commands and then boot also.
[15:41] <Magnum> dury: Basically you just need to use kernel /boot/ [TAB_HERE]. It was so long since i did it but i think that will do it
[15:41] <Magnum> So you point to the correct kernel in /boot to load
[15:41] <samw> how about to reload the sound system without rebooting?  does anyone know how to do that?
[15:42] <dury> Magnum: tell me what to do step by step, please I would really appreciate it
[15:42] <Magnum> samw: /etc/init.d/pulseaudio (<- or so) restart
[15:42] <itsme2010> How do I run an application, which uses OSS API in ubuntu 10.10 without installing OSS(Open Sound System)?
[15:42] <cordoval_> help trying to do a simple DVD play
[15:42] <dury> Magnum: first...
[15:43] <Magnum> dury: I wish i could, but i dont have another computer to simulate the failure on. Let me know what goes on and ill try to help as much as possible.
[15:44] <Magnum> dury: Im sure others will pitch in as well..
[15:44] <samw> Magnum: "* PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions" and i've tried pulseaudio -k.  anything else i can try? :(
[15:44] <dury> Magnum: before it was winxp pro installed
[15:46] <TheSunset> good afternoon, can someone help me to put my desktop accessible using vnc?
[15:46] <Magnum> samw: Google is very good for finding things out. I use it all the time for things that i need to find out. Sorry i cant help more on this, but esentially you need to just reload the pulseaudio system for some reason... why btw ?
[15:46] <itsme2010> How do I run an application which uses OSS,  in ubuntu 10.10 without installing OSS(Open Sound System)?
[15:46] <samw> Magnum: i've been googling for days
[15:47] <Magnum> samw: To reload alsa or pulseaudio ?
[15:47] <BluesKaj> samw, try google-linux
[15:47] <Magnum> samw: What is the original issue youre seeing ?
[15:47] <samw> man, i am so frustrated with this audio problem :(  I have sound on the login screen, and even after i log in, but as soon as i launch a program that uses it like rhythmbox or flash in a browser it dies! and no more sound until reboot! >:(  Can anyone help please? :(
[15:47] <samw> ^^ original issue
[15:47] <zani> I have a problem when I try to run .jar files, could anyone here help me?
[15:48] <TheSunset> I followed this guide http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Maverick#X11VNC_Server
[15:48] <TheSunset> but when I finish, what should I write on the "host" field to connect?
[15:48] <samw> zani: java -jar jarToRun.jar
[15:48] <Magnum> samw: Something hangs it seems. Maybe the alsa driver even. See what drivers are loaded for the soundcard. Unload them and load them again
[15:49] <samw> how do i unload a driver?
[15:49] <zani> samw: it doesn't work
[15:49] <Magnum> samw: You have tried alsamixer and turned up the volume i hope ?
[15:49] <samw> Magnum: yes, volume is up
[15:49] <llutz> !doesntwork | zani
[15:49] <Magnum> samw: lsmod, modprobe -r, modprobe als...somedriver
[15:49] <TheSunset> someone? :/
[15:50] <dr_gonzo> greetings
[15:51] <Magnum> samw: Wow, i even know all the options to most programs by heart nowdays... was unceratain about the -r flag :)
[15:51] <samw> Magnum: i just did a lsmod | grep als an there's not there.  is it snd_* ?
[15:51] <samw> er.. there's nothing there
[15:51] <Magnum> samw: lsmod
[15:51] <zani> samw: i get "Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from [file.jar]"
[15:52] <samw> zani: that is not a runnable jar.. must be a library or something
[15:52] <Magnum> samw: snd_hda_codec_si3054, yep
[15:53] <zani> I have read that you can run it as you would with an .exe
[15:53] <Magnum> samw: grep for snd
[15:54] <samw> Magnum: i have snd_hda_codec_intelhdmi, snd_hda_codec_idt Should i remove them both?
[15:54] <gucki> hi. how can i make "apt-get -y ..." to not even ask for questions in post-install?
[15:54] <Magnum> samw: First, Have you tried the pulseaudio volume control ? and if you have FN-button + Sound volume up key ?
[15:55] <gucki> i need to fully automate and cant handle any dialogs in post-inst (like they show when you upgrade sshd). i'd simply assume yes everywhere
[15:55] <samw> zani: the Main-Class manifest attribute is what defines which part of the jar to run.  it's inside the jar.  if it fails, it means that the jar is not runnable or is not configured properly
[15:56] <samw> Magnum: the volume notifier works and is at full.  is that the same thing as "pulseaudio volume control"?
[15:56] <samw> it goes up and down when i use fn+volume
[15:57] <samw> also, everything under "Sound Preferences" is cranked
[15:57] <Aer> hi I was wondering if someone could help me out, If I can type in terminal "sisctrl" to run a program I have installed how can i find where this "sisctrl" command is going to ? i need to find its location so i can do a "sudo chmod777" but i cant find its location >.<
[15:57] <Aer> apparently it should be in /usr.bin/sisctrl but it isnt
[15:58] <sipior> Aer: "which sisctrl"
[15:58] <samw> Aer:type "which sisctrl"
[15:58] <samw> :)
[15:58] <BluesKaj> samw, in therminal type alsamixer , make sure are Ms in the vctrl boxes and use the arrow keys to navigate and turn up the vol ctrls that apply to your setup
[15:58] <BluesKaj> err terminal samw
[16:01] <samw> BluesKaj: all is/was up
[16:01] <BluesKaj> samw, use the M key to unmute any ctrls with a M , M=mute
[16:01] <Aer> any ideas please ? :)
[16:01] <samw> Aer:type "which sisctrl"
[16:01] <bluj> Aer, type 'which sisctrl'
[16:01] <Aer> ok
[16:01] <Aer> ahh nice :D thanks guys
[16:01] <samw> BluesKaj: when i press "M" they toggle from "MM" to "00" at the bottom.. they were "00" to start with.. i think that's unmuted, right?
[16:01] <gucki> is there an irc channel for apt or dpkg where i could ask my question? :()
[16:01] <sipior> /me wonders if he's muted
[16:01] <BluesKaj> samw, yes , 0 is unmuted
[16:01] <BluesKaj> err 00
[16:02] <_maddy> I bought ATI 6870 graphics card, but it doesn't work with fglrx, so I had to disable it, but now I am stuck with low resolution...how to fix?
[16:02]  * BluesKaj 's KB needs new batteries
[16:02] <jink> It needs a wire. ;)
[16:03]  * BluesKaj installs new AAs
[16:03] <samw> BluesKaj: and "MM" means.. not muted?
[16:03] <Magnum> dury: I was thinking of something like this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-boot-ubuntu-linux-rescue-mode/
[16:03] <BluesKaj> MM is muted , samw
[16:03] <Aer> but i need to restart for my changes to take effect, thanks a lot guys :)
[16:03] <samw> BluesKaj: ok, so i'm ok there.. they were 00's to start with
[16:04] <Magnum> dury: Do you get an error description, like error 22 or something ?
[16:04] <BluesKaj> are you ctrls tuerned up to at least 80% , samw ?
[16:05] <samw> in alsamixer?  they are all at 100
[16:05] <_maddy> any help guys? anyone got ATI 6850/6870 with linux?
[16:05] <vittorio__> hello !
[16:06] <Magnum> hola!
[16:06] <samw> BluesKaj: in alsamixer?  they are all at 100
[16:06] <vittorio__> i come here ro know if somebody can help me with grub please
[16:06] <BluesKaj> samw, which soundcard , lspci | grep -i audio
[16:06] <djystyler> jo
[16:07] <hey_joe> whats the best way to format my new 2tb external drive for windows, mac, and linux use?
[16:07] <hey_joe> i think its fat32 right now...
[16:07] <samw> BluesKaj: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[16:07] <goltoof> _maddy:  had, then i returned my ati for nvidia, problem solved
[16:07] <hey_joe> is that fine?
[16:07] <djystyler> hallo?
[16:07] <guillaume_> hii!
[16:07] <guillaume_> :)
[16:07] <manuel_> herro
[16:08] <_maddy> goltoof: yeah, I'm sure they'll update the fglrx driver, but I'm looking for some quick fix
[16:08] <BluesKaj> !intelhda | samw
[16:08] <Magnum> vittorio__: People will help with your grub issue im sure. Doesnt it boot, if so whats the grub error ?
[16:08] <guillaume_> Are 96.xxx drivers gone for good?
[16:08] <guillaume_> for Nvidia
[16:08] <filosofixit> I have a router/samba-box with 3 NIC's (eth0=Internet, eth1=Local/Private and eth2=Local/Public... I'm trying to prohibit the network on eth2 reaching the box with samba so I added " interfaces = <IP_ADDRESS>/8, <IP_ADDRESS>/24 " and "  bind interfaces only = yes " to the smb.conf file, but now no machines can see the sambashares... Anyone got a clue?
[16:08] <samw> BluesKaj: jesus.. there's a bot entry about this? how the hell did i miss it :(  I'll check it out.. thanks
[16:09] <DonaldShimoda> hi, i have a new pc with amd phenom and ati video, any knows issues with 10.10?
[16:09] <Magnum> guillaume_: Arent the new ones better ?
[16:09] <guillaume_> new ati drivers are good I think
[16:09] <guillaume_> Phenos shouldn't be a problem
[16:09] <BluesKaj> guillaume_, yes , most likely replaced with a newer driver , depending your card of course
[16:09] <DonaldShimoda> guillaume_, thanks
[16:10] <guillaume_> Nps
[16:10] <DonaldShimoda> i will tell you later, get it in 2 hours!
[16:10] <dury> bbl I will check it out what's the error message
[16:10] <guillaume_> You won't have trouble
[16:10] <guillaume_> In the really worse case you'll have rare bugs but that's it
[16:11] <filosofixit> With the same setup, is it a problem to use the same netmask on two fhysical different networks?
[16:11] <vittorio__> hello can somebody help me quickly with a litle problem with grub please ?
[16:11] <BluesKaj> guillaume_, which nvidia card on which ubuntu version ?
[16:13] <A_New_Server> petan: Are you on?
[16:13] <Magnum> samw: Ah! Its one of those issues probably. You need to probe the alsa module with modulename=acer/fujitsu or something. I did that once before. Edited /etc/modprobe.conf but that could have been moved to somewhere like /etc/modprobe.d (I wish they stop changing all the paths so often as they do nowdays)
[16:13] <petan> A_New_Server: hm
[16:13] <guillaume_> Kaj, I opened a private room
[16:13] <A_New_Server> petan: You were the one helping me before, right?
[16:13] <guillaume_> <<
[16:13] <petan> A_New_Server: it was me
[16:14] <ubuntuuser> Hi people
[16:14] <Magnum> samw: But its also facinating that playing music kills the driver. Thats a big bug.
[16:14] <tim167> how do I upgrade from Hardy without erasing everything ?
[16:14] <filosofixit> Can someone with samba-skills please help me with this issue? = I have a router/samba-box with 3 NIC's (eth0=Internet, eth1/<IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS> = Local/Private network and eth2/<IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>=Local/Public network. I'm trying to prohibit the network on eth2 reaching the box with samba so I added " interfaces = <IP_ADDRESS>/8, <IP_ADDRESS>/24 " and "  bind interfaces only = yes " to the smb.conf file, but now no machines can see
[16:14] <filosofixit> the sambashares... Anyone got a clue?
[16:14] <A_New_Server> petan: Wooh, alright so last I recall you asked what my graphics card was and I told you, where go we from there?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> guillaume_, is that an onboard ?
[16:14] <petan> A_New_Server: I suggested to reinstall and reconfigure fglrx, with aticonfig
[16:14] <bytesaber> NGEN
[16:14] <Magnum> samw: lspci ... check what driver it is if you have the time..
[16:14] <chouchou> hello good morning all, pls I need someone who is good in english, I written an article, and I need help polishing it
[16:14] <petan> tim167: just upgrade
[16:14] <samw> Magnum: yeah. hopefully this will help.
[16:14] <A_New_Server> petan: So I've lost everything on it?
[16:14] <ubuntuuser> I have just set up ubuntu, and I have noticed some ICRC ABRT errors on the sata subsystem
[16:14] <Pici> chouchou: Use ##english
[16:14] <chouchou> my apologies in advance if I am off topic
[16:14] <petan> A_New_Server: what you mean
[16:15] <tim167> petan, where is the upgrade tool ?
[16:15] <chouchou> ok
[16:15] <Magnum> samw: im sure it will. Wonder why i didnt think of that /grr :)
[16:15] <mmancuso> exit
[16:15] <petan> !upgrade
[16:15] <A_New_Server> petan: Doesn't re-installing remove what was on the drive?
[16:15] <petan> A_New_Server: reinstall only driver
[16:15] <ubuntuuser> it seems to be related to an incompatibility between the controller chip (VT6420) and the Western Digital Green Power disk
[16:15] <NetScr1be> I'm still looking for any info on process waiting channel status = poll-schedule_timeout
[16:16] <ubuntuuser> as is described in http://groups.google.com/group/fa.linux.kernel/browse_thread/thread/02db8575ded42ab1
[16:16] <petan> A_New_Server: install fglrx and
[16:16] <petan> A_New_Server: aticonfig --initial
[16:16] <Magnum> NetScr1be: Explain... ?
[16:16] <ubuntuuser> what is the policy for kernel patches, because I would want the patch to be in 10.10 as soon as possible
[16:17] <BluesKaj> !pm | guillaume_
[16:17] <NetScr1be> I keep checking the boards (ubuntuforum mainly) and only find more people with the same issue
[16:17] <judgen> If ubuntu hangs when playing music, what might be the problem?
[16:17] <A_New_Server> How do I do that? I can't get on the OS
[16:17] <A_New_Server> petan: Or do I do it on my host?
[16:17] <petan> A_New_Server: press ctrl + alt f2 after bot
[16:18] <NetScr1be> Magnum, systems lags and hangs momentarily almost all processes have waiting channel status of poll_schedule_timeout
[16:18] <petan> A_New_Server: or what you mean you can't get
[16:18] <Pici> ubuntuuser: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelUpdates and perhaps #ubuntu-kernel if you're serious about helping it get in.
[16:18] <NetScr1be> lag = 10 - 30 seconds
[16:18] <ubuntuuser> ok thanks Pici
[16:18] <NetScr1be> no errors
[16:18] <Magnum> NetScr1be: Maverick ?
[16:19] <NetScr1be> 9.04 but extensive forum post reading shows it on many versions and multiple falvours
[16:19] <A_New_Server> petan: I'm at the dos (or command line or whatever it's called) and the GUI isn't loaded. How do I install it frmo there?
[16:19] <petan> A_New_Server: apt-get install fglrx
[16:19] <NetScr1be> don't know those cool version code names
[16:19] <halvor> hello
[16:19] <petan> A_New_Server: works?
[16:19] <Pici> !9.04 | NetScr1be
[16:19] <NetScr1be> I'm running 9.04 on Asuss EEE 4g for 2 ywears
[16:20] <A_New_Server> petan: It says this package has unmet dependencies and it just keeps going on and on and on, it's like 100 lines and is going now as I type.
[16:20] <A_New_Server> petan: on and on listing things*
[16:20] <NetScr1be> upgrading beyond 9.04 fails on lack of disk space (4GB SSD only)
[16:20] <petan> A_New_Server: how many
[16:20] <Magnum> NetScr1be: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:21] <petan> A_New_Server: just confirm and install
[16:21] <A_New_Server> It doesn't say, also how do I confirm? It just went back to ~$
[16:21] <Magnum> NetScr1be: Or use the gui to upgrade it.
[16:21] <petan> A_New_Server: you must do it as root
[16:21] <petan> A_New_Server: confirm with Y
[16:22] <A_New_Server> I did do it as root (it wouldn't let me do it without)
[16:22] <A_New_Server> y: command not found
[16:22] <Magnum> NetScr1be: For some reason the older dists get updates that arent meant for them so that things dont work as expected.
[16:22] <A_New_Server> petan: doing apt-get -f install now, will that fix it?
[16:22] <Lufti> I've just upgraded a 10.04 Ubuntu to 10.10. No errors were displayed. But now, right after the installation, after a reboot the Ubuntu freezes at the loading screen (some seconds after the file system check has finished). After pressing a lot of key combinations I finally found myself in a terminal. I could not find any error messages in the log files I checked. Any Ideas?
[16:23] <Magnum> NetScr1be: The odd part about that is that there is no investigation at all and no remedy as far from what i can tell.
[16:23] <petan> A_New_Server: what it say send me output
[16:23] <A_New_Server> Ok that fixed it actually, downloading now
[16:23] <petan> A_New_Server: in pm
[16:23] <NetScr1be> LOL sudo apt-get update returns Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com karmic/partner Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_karmic_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[16:23] <NetScr1be> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[16:23] <blackplague1347> How do you pm?
[16:23] <A_New_Server> petan: I can't highlight it
[16:23] <A_New_Server> petan: It's downloading now though (the previous command you told me)
[16:23] <NetScr1be> Magnum I agreee about oddity
[16:24] <petan> A_New_Server: ok
[16:24] <Magnum> NetScr1be: You need to fix your sources list :)
[16:24] <soee> whats the app name that i can use under windows to create usb live cd ?
[16:24] <NetScr1be> there's a bug open for it for a long time w/ no assignee and no updates from devs
[16:24] <A_New_Server> petan: Actually on second though I wouldn't be able to send it even if I could highlight, it's on vbox and I don't have the guest additions installed for this one
[16:24] <rusivi> Lufti: Try a live CD of 10.10, if you can get into the desktop may want to do a fresh install of 10.10
[16:24] <A_New_Server> thought
[16:25] <Magnum> NetScr1be: Yep, thats a shame i think.
[16:25] <Chiggins> Hey. If I wanted a minimal desktop for my ubuntu server install, what should i use?
[16:25] <sysRPL> hello
[16:25] <sysRPL> is this funny? http://fearsanity.us/palin/
[16:25] <rusivi> NetScr1be: What bug # specifically?
[16:25] <Magnum> Chiggins: xfce
[16:26] <petan> sysRPL: this is ubuntu support
[16:26] <petan> A_New_Server: what it does
[16:26] <Ddorda> hey guysm how do i check apt-get upgrade packages list?
[16:26] <Magnum> Chiggins: But if you have a server thats not very old id still go for GNOME. Such a beauty.
[16:26] <Ddorda> Magnum: using a server with gnome?!
[16:26] <A_New_Server> petan: It seems sort of frozen, I see an underscore after 320kB/s 57s constantly blinking
[16:27] <A_New_Server> petan: And it's stuck on 22%
[16:27] <petan> that looks ok
[16:27] <Chiggins> Magnum - I'm just looking for something to test out my own Android build with the emulator... Only 1GB of RAM in this virtual machine
[16:27] <petan> does it transfer sth
[16:27] <rusivi> NetScr1be: Or do you have a link to the bug?
[16:27] <petan> A_New_Server: wait for it to install it
[16:27] <Magnum> Ddorda: Sure. I do that all around and its no problem securitywise. I get a good overlook of all my servers for its clearly woth it.
[16:27] <Ddorda> Chiggins: did you check fluxbox?
[16:27] <A_New_Server> petan: Ok
[16:28] <petan> A_New_Server: you said you have ati but you work on virtualbox
[16:28] <Chiggins> Ddorda - whats fluxbox
[16:28] <Ddorda> Magnum: well, it takes too much cpu IMHO
[16:28] <petan> A_New_Server: so you should not use ati driver
[16:28] <Ddorda> Chiggins: real light environment
[16:28] <petan> A_New_Server: just some universal vga driver
[16:29] <Magnum> Ddorda: Naah, a bit of ram, thats it.
[16:29] <Ddorda> Magnum: well check fluxbox ;)
[16:29] <Magnum> Ddorda: xorg only uses much cpu when logged in.
[16:29] <NetScr1be> hang on trying to fix sources.list
[16:29] <Magnum> Ddorda: xfce is also fast, but fluxbox can work.
[16:30] <experiMENTAL> hi. what is the best equivalent of windows movie maker on ubuntu?
[16:30] <Ddorda> Magnum: fxce is way slower than fluxbox
[16:30] <Magnum> Ddorda: I have tried most of the desktops and concluded that GNOME is where the X should be :)
[16:30] <Chiggins> Magnum / Ddorda - I just want something minimal. I'm going to just be SSHing in most of the time
[16:31] <llutz> Chiggins: use twm
[16:31] <Magnum> Chiggins: I suggest xfce in that case. But i dont know the progress of fluxbox to be fair.
[16:31] <BluesKaj> experiMENTAL,  depends on what you want to do with video
[16:32] <coz_> Chiggins,  there is also lxde
[16:32] <NetScr1be> rusivi, magnum, http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBkQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.launchpad.net%2Fubuntu%2F%2Bsource%2Flinux%2F%2Bbug%2F488849&ei=eQPkTPLJFo2VOo_EzZIB&usg=AFQjCNF6o0_lhp9ZIQ5_MYxW4_rsyweXTw&sig2=cukC_IH6LMfj258NVZ4KCA
[16:32] <NetScr1be> cr*p hang on
[16:33] <galendil> Hi everybody
[16:33] <Magnum> Chiggins: Or you can just have xorg-libs, log in using: "ssh -X -l UserName HostName" and start the guis you need by using Xforwarding.
[16:33] <Chiggins> Magnum - How would that x forwarding stuff work? Never heard of that before
[16:33] <NetScr1be> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/488849
[16:33] <Magnum> Chiggins: Just start the application :)
[16:33] <experiMENTAL> BluesKaj: i want to cut flv file and create avi.
[16:34] <Magnum> Chiggins: You must log in with "ssh -X ..."
[16:34] <experiMENTAL> BluesKaj: and i want to add some subs.
[16:34] <Chiggins> Magnum - So that starts a GUI for me? Through the ssh connection?
[16:35] <Magnum> Chiggins: Then you can start firefox or whatever on that computer but the graphics are forwarded to your local display. Very nice :)
[16:35] <Magnum> Chiggins: Yes
[16:35] <Chiggins> Magnum - I'm using a Windows client, PuTTy... know if it'll work through that
[16:35] <DougEdgy> Chiggins: Just remember performance will be impacted ;) I used to use it at uni all the time, bleeding useful I can tell you
[16:36] <Magnum> Chiggins: The sshd server must be set to allow xforwarding but most are. If its not then edit sshd.conf and restart sshd
[16:36] <llutz> Chiggins: it works you just need a windows x-server like xming
[16:36] <DougEdgy> Chiggins: if your client ssh is putty you need to enable it under settings -> Connection-> SSH-> Tunnels
[16:36] <Magnum> Chiggins: Yep, it even works for windows clients. Sweet eh ? :)
[16:37] <NetScr1be> magnum apt-get dist-upgrade is intended to upgrade kernel to latest version?
[16:37] <Magnum> no
[16:38] <Magnum> NetScr1be: Thats a distribution upgrade
[16:38] <BluesKaj> experiMENTAL, try Kino or Cinelerra
[16:38] <Chiggins> DougEdgy - What do I need to enable exactly
[16:39] <Chiggins> Magnum - What do i need to install on the server
[16:39] <Magnum> NetScr1be: Itll upgrade all your packages so that you get 10.04 or whatever.
[16:40] <Magnum> Chiggins: Nothing except xorg-libs or the xorg-libraries
[16:40] <llutz> Magnum: it won't do that unless you change your sources.list. read "man apt-get" what it actually does
[16:40] <dans326> I think I borked a samba share setup as the computer reports that the local folders aren't available and then wont move on after saying that  it was terminated with status 32 at one point it gives me an option to skip by pressing s but that does nothing different for me any suggestions
[16:40] <experiMENTAL> BluesKaj: ty, ill try.
[16:40] <BluesKaj> experiMENTAL, for video conversion ffmpeg in the command line is very effective
[16:41] <Chiggins> Magnum - Alright.. Just gotta figure out how to do this in putty
[16:41] <NetScr1be> magnum when I try to do this through the GUI it fails for lack of disk space
[16:41] <babaji> linux is open source right??? than why RHEL is charged??
[16:41] <babaji> that means we can make our own linux modify it and charge for that distribution
[16:41] <llutz> babaji: stupid question, read what open source means and what not
[16:42] <llutz> babaji: read the GPL too
[16:42] <coz_> experiMENTAL,  in case you are not familiar with it a simple conversion with ffmpeg would be something like    ffmpeg -i nameof.ogg  nameof.avi  for conversion from ogg to avi
[16:42] <babaji> @llutz sorry i am new to open source
[16:42] <BluesKaj> babaji, not all linux severs are free RHEL is red hat enterprise software , that means it's proprietary and it costs
[16:42] <DougEdgy> Chiggins: http://www.math.umn.edu/systems_guide/putty_xwin32/xfwd_putty-sm.png
[16:42] <juk_> babaji: tap water is free right? why you need to pay for coke?
[16:43] <sph_> yes, but you dont get the recipe for coke when you buy it ;-)
[16:43] <goltoof> juk_  horrible analogy
[16:43] <NetScr1be> magnum Asus EEE 4g only has 4GB SSD (/home on 8GB SD card)
[16:43] <BluesKaj> juk_, tap water isn't free here , we get a water bill every month
[16:43] <goltoof> juk_:   i'd never compare ubuntu to rhel as "tap vs coke"
[16:43] <Chiggins> DougEdgy -- In my putty its under Connection -> SSH -> X11
[16:43] <samw> BluesKaj: Magnum: thanks for helping me track this down! one little line "options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m4-2".. gotta love linux :)
[16:43] <babaji> if i take linux kernel change it according to my wishand bring new features than am i able to charge that distro?
[16:44] <experiMENTAL> BluesKaj, coz_ : thx
[16:44] <NetScr1be> magnum are you saying that my 9.04 has received updates not intended for it?
[16:44] <juk_> lol
[16:44] <BluesKaj> samw, glad to hear you got it working :)
[16:44] <launion> Hi. Freenode has new policies. Official doc (November 17 - 2010) >> UNUSED NICKNAMES WILL BE REMOVED FROM NETWORK *PERMANENTLY*; PLEASE, '/JOIN #FREENODE' AND TYPE '!keep <yournick>'. THANKS!
[16:44] <launion> Hi. Freenode has new policies. Official doc (November 17 - 2010) >> UNUSED NICKNAMES WILL BE REMOVED FROM NETWORK *PERMANENTLY*; PLEASE, '/JOIN #FREENODE' AND TYPE '!keep <yournick>'. THANKS!
[16:44] <launion> Hi. Freenode has new policies. Official doc (November 17 - 2010) >> UNUSED NICKNAMES WILL BE REMOVED FROM NETWORK *PERMANENTLY*; PLEASE, '/JOIN #FREENODE' AND TYPE '!keep <yournick>'. THANKS!
[16:44] <launion> Hi. Freenode has new policies. Official doc (November 17 - 2010) >> UNUSED NICKNAMES WILL BE REMOVED FROM NETWORK *PERMANENTLY*; PLEASE, '/JOIN #FREENODE' AND TYPE '!keep <yournick>'. THANKS!
[16:44] <FloodBot1> launion: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:44] <llutz> babaji: you can charge whatever you like, but you still have to respect the licenses
[16:44] <llutz> !ot > babaji wrong channel here to discuss that
[16:44] <DougEdgy> Chiggins: OK, diff version, same effect
[16:45] <babaji> @llutz where should i go??  new to this thing....
[16:45] <Magnum> NetScr1be, llutz: True there lutz. NetScr1be: edit: /etc/apt/sources.list first so it knows about the new dist to upgrade to or use the package manager gui and select a dist upgrade.
[16:45] <babaji> i got a concept that can change the linux that we are expiriencing today.....
[16:45] <llutz> babaji: fsfe.org, gnu.org   millions of sites to read
[16:45] <babaji> so need to ask for buisness perspective...
[16:45] <NetScr1be> ppl in #freenode are saying that notice is spam
[16:45] <puddles> babaji: what might that be?
[16:45] <Magnum> llutz: Thanks for pitching in.
[16:46] <puddles> babaji: ah, another "idea man"
[16:46] <LoRez> NetScr1be: did you not notice that launion was killed for spamming?
[16:46] <LoganJRuff> puddles, free women with each distro download
[16:46] <Asad-Ahmad> Which is the best Network packet monitor in Ubuntu 10.10? Which shows the hosts/IPs the computer and process is connected to, and the data being transferred at what rate.
[16:46] <puddles> loganjruff: shooot!  where do i sign up?!?!?
[16:46] <Chiggins> DougEdgy - Magnum - Know of a free xwin client?
[16:46] <LoganJRuff> puddles, I'm signing the petition now.
[16:47] <puddles> asad-ahmad: "iptraf" does some of that
[16:47] <babaji> the idea is something secret.......
[16:47] <babaji> i want to bring change in kernel....
[16:47] <llutz> !ot > babaji wrong channel here to discuss that
[16:47] <LoganJRuff> !ot | babaji
[16:48] <Magnum> Chiggins: He told you about one... llutz said "xming"
[16:48] <lucas_> hi i am searching for some software that can be used for a photo booth, so it uses a webcam/ digital camera to take a picture, and then print it
[16:48] <lucas_> on a printer
[16:48] <lucas_> does sombody know this kind of software
[16:48] <NetScr1be> LoRez, no I didn't sorry
[16:48] <juk_> babaji: thanks for laugh
[16:48] <foo23> hi
[16:48] <puddles> babaji: i'll tell you up front ... having used linux for some time and been around for much longer than you, the attitude that "this is world changing, secretive, i'll let you in on it some day" probably won't fly
[16:48] <LoganJRuff> lucas_, doesn't cheese do that?
[16:48] <rdw200169> babaji: you need to reference the GPLv2 license for answers to your questions regarding modification of the linux kernel
[16:49] <LoganJRuff> puddles, or that he wants to bring change to the kernel without actually taking steps to implement it. (Other than whispering in #ubuntu...)
[16:49] <foo23> how can I encrypt files and folders without root or sudo permissions (should work on every system, like university systems)? everything I found (dm-crypt, truecrypt & Co need root for mount).
[16:49] <puddles> lucas_: you can tie a number of programs together to do that, but you're better off writing your own yeah?
[16:49] <Chinta> Just a quick one, anyone knows how to make Lucid (10.04) effectively recognise and use Creative's Zen Mozaic mp3 player? (amarok, gnomad2 and others failed to do so)
[16:49] <Magnum> Chiggins: There are several of those i think.
[16:49] <Asad-Ahmad> puddles: Thanks man. But that looks like its CLI..
[16:49] <StaRetji> Folks, what could be causing this problem: The system is going down for reboot NOW! and it stays like that, I can still operate on my computer?
[16:49] <babaji> thank u everyone !!!  :)
[16:49] <Magnum> Chiggins: If you have a linux client its ok by default.
[16:50] <andeeeuk> hey everyone
[16:50] <puddles> asad-ahmad: if you want pretty graphs you have to build it yourself with rrdtools and perhaps some php graph front ends.  there are some nice ones
[16:50] <LoganJRuff> foo23, you're attempting to encrypt files you do not own?
[16:50] <LoganJRuff> Asad-Ahmad, cli is nothing to be scared of =)
[16:50] <Asad-Ahmad> puddles: Hmm. I will look into it.
[16:50] <puddles> asad-ahmad: assuming you collect data with rrdtools, you can chart with this nice php lib, http://pchart.sourceforge.net/
[16:50] <andeeeuk> does any one know if there is a way to stop moving windows by pressing "alt+click"?
[16:51] <LoganJRuff> andeeeuk, System->
[16:51] <Asad-Ahmad> LoganJRuff: I am all for CLI man, but for something of this sort, a minimial sort of GUI, like TCPView has, doesn't harm much
[16:51] <LoganJRuff> andeeeuk, System->Preferences->Windows
[16:51] <puddles> staretji: guess --- hung network mount points
[16:51] <ThisBeMyNick> It looks like screen eats the bell character/terminal beep? Does anyone know what is wrong? (10.04)
[16:51] <andeeeuk> excellent, thanks!!
[16:51] <LoganJRuff> andeeeuk, Always a pleasure. =)
[16:52] <andeeeuk> something soo simple
[16:52] <Magnum> LoganJRuff: He wants to encrypt but not need to "su -" to use the dm-crypt program im guessing..
[16:52] <Asad-Ahmad> I basically want to see the outbound connections, because Firestarter doesn't have an option like Allow outbound traffic on specific programs when they ask for it.
[16:52] <lucas_> puddles, how can i write my own then?
[16:52] <detrix> I have a external hard drive, that is HFS+ format. Having trouble writing to the drive.  can read no problems.  I have turned of journaling. what else do I need to do?
[16:52] <andeeeuk> just got photoshop cs4 working on ubuntu and really needed the alt key for stuff to work
[16:52] <lucas_> windows does have some awsome software but i refuse to pay 600 dollars for a license:p
[16:52] <puddles> lucas_: study the source of camorama or some other video4linux client?
[16:52] <LoganJRuff> Magnum, yeah, I saw that, but the issue is that if he's encrypting files he's not the owner of he will always need root.
[16:53] <lucas_> puddles, i have 0,0 experience with making software on linux :P
[16:53] <LoganJRuff> Unless he chowns them...? Which would be tedious?
[16:53] <Magnum> LoganJRuff: truecrypt <- non-free also i guess. So its a commercial.
[16:53] <Asad-Ahmad> I have used etherape, but that only shows the the hostnames, not the process using it
[16:53] <andeeeuk> is anyone needs to use photoshop on linux it works really well
[16:53] <puddles> lucas_: well dude, you can't have it both ways.  if you have no experience writing software, PAY someone to do it (or buy license)
[16:53] <Asad-Ahmad> Magnum: Truecrypt is free AFAIK
[16:53] <foo23> Magnum: even truecrypt needs root-perm to mount
[16:53] <Magnum> LoganJRuff: Entirely correct.
[16:53] <puddles> lucas_: otherwise, learn
[16:53] <foo23> Magnum: and truecrypt is free
[16:53] <LoganJRuff> andeeeuk, most of us shoot for the non-free option (gimp or other)
[16:54] <ThisBeMyNick> truecrypt is open source, but not considered free due to a strange license.
[16:54] <Chiggins> Magnum - DougEdgy .. Sweet, it seems to be working. Thanks!
[16:54] <andeeeuk> LoganJRuff yeah i do like gimp and have used it a lot but simple love photoshop
[16:55] <LoganJRuff> andeeeuk, Cool =) But let's try to keep to topic, ok buddy?
[16:55] <foo23> so anyone has a clue how i can encrypt folders/files without root or sudo permissions?
[16:56] <andeeeuk> LoganJRuff lol, yeah will do
[16:56] <LoganJRuff> foo23, as stated, unless you are the owner of the files in question then you will need to su, sudo, or chown them to encrypt them.
[16:56] <Magnum> Chiggins: Np
[16:56] <thor_ito> guenas
[16:56] <foo23> LoganJRuff: i'm owner of these files
[16:57] <LoganJRuff> foo23, Are they in your home dir?
[16:57] <Magnum> foo23: Seems ok from reading the first few lines atleast. What algorithm does it use for crypytings ? ... http://www.truecrypt.org/legal/license
[16:57] <rautamiekka> Where to get 2X Terminal Server binaries from ?
[16:57] <detrix> I have a external hard drive, that is HFS+ format. Having trouble writing to the drive.  can read no problems.  I have turned of journaling. what else do I need to do?
[16:58] <soorajkenoth> 	/join #zyxware
[16:58] <Asad-Ahmad> Found http://netactview.sourceforge.net/download.html . Almost perfect. Just doesn't show the individual process' traffic usage rate
[16:58] <sudipta> how to connect wired internet in ubuntu 10,10
[16:58] <ubuntuuser> bye
[16:59] <foo23> LoganJRuff: yes, in homedir with write permission etc
[16:59] <Asad-Ahmad> sudipta: Did you checked Network Manager in the Panel? <Right click - Edit connections - Wired - Add>
[16:59] <foo23> Magnum: truecrypt is nice, i use it for windows/linux shares. but it needs admin privileges to mount the container
[17:00] <Magnum> foo23: Hmm, shouldnt need to from my skillz in making enc dec things.
actully one of my frnd has this problem
[17:00] <Magnum> foo23: To loop mount it ?
[17:00] <foo23> agross_: sorry? didn't understand
[17:01] <foo23> Magnum: sorry? didn't understand "in making enc dec things"
[17:01] <Asad-Ahmad> sudipta: Any details about it?
[17:01] <Magnum> foo23: Nevermind.
[17:02] <puddles> i don't fully trust truecrypt
[17:03] <Asad-Ahmad> puddles: LOL. If you don't trust an opensource software, what else will you trust? :)
[17:03] <puddles> i've had troubles with truecrypt-generated fat file system ... linux doesn't like some fields in there (granted this was generated with older truecrypt)
[17:03] <puddles> asad-ahmad: LUKS does a fantastic job ...
[17:03] <foo23> puddles: does luks work without root permission?
[17:04] <puddles> foo23: sure, plug a drive that's encrypted, enter the password, access the drive, easy
[17:04] <foo23> puddles: yeah, but this wont work on other systems which don't have this plugin-feature
[17:05] <puddles> foo23: works on ubuntu, fedora and probably other distros.  what's the point exactly?
[17:05] <foo23> puddles: won't work with a copied container-file on servers. at least not the university ones
[17:06] <puddles> foo23: wait ... so ... let me think about this ... you want to use encrypted filesystem on a system you don't have root?
[17:07] <foo23> puddles: i want to have folders encrypted on a system I don't have root. (yes, GPG, but no, thats not what I like to have)
[17:07] <Travis-42> on 10.04, bluetooth says it is disabled, even when i click to turn it on. how can I get bluetooth working?
[17:07] <puddles> foo23: there's fundamentally broken use model right there.  it's not your machine ... why do you want to use sensitive data on it?  how do you know your data won't leak somewhere (swap file, swap partition, core dumps, etc.)?
[17:08] <StaRetji> puddles: thx for a tip, only choice I had was to unplug the cable :) I hope it is nothing serious
[17:08] <puddles> foo23: even the home directory ... you mount stuff, access stuff ... stuffs end up in thumbnails, history, shell history, etc.
[17:09] <foo23> puddles: you never know if there is a bug in the system so someone has access to it. then even a full disk encryption at home doesnt work.
[17:09] <puddles> staretji: nah, usually not
[17:09] <babaji> how can i study about internal working of .deb
[17:09] <StaRetji> folks, I have plymouth theme on shutdown, but on boot, it shows up just a second before x is started
[17:09] <StaRetji> puddles: thx man
[17:09] <foo23> puddles: the question is not if it makes sence or not. its about: is there a way which is not gpg
[17:09] <babaji> ?
[17:09] <dans326> I think I borked a samba share setup as the computer reports that the local folders aren't available and then wont move on after saying that  it was terminated with status 32 at one point it gives me an option to skip by pressing s but that does nothing different for me any suggestions
[17:09] <puddles> staretji: timing issues.  your graphics subsystem takes too long to be ready, that by then ubuntu is ready to get into X so it's kind of pointless
[17:10] <foo23> babaji: maybe mc is helpful for you
[17:10] <xl> hello?
[17:10] <StaRetji> puddles: oh, is there something I can do about it?
[17:10] <babaji> @foo23 what is mc?
[17:11] <foo23> babaji: mc - midnight commander - a powerful file manager
[17:11] <xzaz> hi guys
[17:11] <Magnum> babaji: yes
[17:11] <babaji> with the help of that will i be able to know the internal workings of .deb
[17:12] <xzaz> Have a little problem here, got live CD because i can't boot anymore.. but can't mount my old (intern) HD
[17:12] <mansoluvlucid> Travis-42 : trying using blueman bluetooth manager. It gives you necessary option to get bluetooth working.
[17:12] <foo23> babaji: you can figure out some.
[17:12] <ishida> Hello
[17:12] <xl> hi
[17:12] <mansoluvlucid> ishida: ya
[17:13] <puddles> staretji: you might be able to get new profile for boot by deleting stuff in /var/lib/ureadahead
[17:13] <foo23> babaji: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html
[17:13] <napier> hi,  hi, googleearth in ubuntu  10.04 and kubuntu 10.10, when you select some links the application fails and this is closed, in windows work very well
[17:14] <StaRetji> puddles: hm, you mean I should remove stuff that I really don't need or what? It's kinda fuzzy to me
[17:14] <xzaz> ANyone>
[17:14] <xzaz> ?
[17:14] <foo23> bye
[17:14] <babaji> @magnum and foo23 can u tell some source from where i can master totaly on net?
[17:14] <babaji> master linux
[17:14] <lucas_> Hi, how can i print a file via shell?
[17:14] <puddles> staretji: try to google for "ubuntu ureadahead boot"
[17:14] <llutz> lucas_: lpr file
[17:15] <puddles> staretji: for example, http://ubuntuguide.net/howto-fix-ureadahead-problem-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-10-04
[17:15] <BluesKaj> napier, yes there are some bugs on the latest google earth , close the startup tip box before it crashes seems to be the best advice I can give til the bugs are fixed
[17:16] <xzaz> When i mount my old hd i get /media/oldhd (my mout point) and then the files; bin boot cdrom dev etc home...
[17:16] <xzaz> Anyone has any clue about this?
[17:16] <hiexpo> what runs on port 1234
[17:16] <StaRetji> thx puddles, will do that ;)
[17:16] <ikonia> xzaz: what are you expecting
[17:16] <NetScr1be> Magnum, rusivi I just noticed something
[17:16] <xzaz> My Files :)
[17:16] <lucas_> llutz, thanks, im searching for a way to print 4 fotos on one paper in a square :)
[17:16] <llutz> hiexpo: sudo lsof -i :1234
[17:16] <ikonia> xzaz: ok - so look in the directories for your files