[12:04] <cox377> i just worked out by right clicking u can install .deb applications
[12:04] <Fenrrir> where meeting kopete 0.12 for ubuntu to dapper with jingle and pre-compiled?
[12:04] <cox377> : )
[12:04] <cox377> brb
[12:04] <icheyne> Anyone know why I have to reconnect to Wireless Assistant every time I login?
[12:05] <skipster23> how can i uninstall java version "1.4.2"  gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)
[12:05] <LjL> every time I boot my Kubuntu I need to go into the Network settings to set up my DNS server. the setting is not kept across reboots. hints?
[12:05] <geneo91> turn off dhcp
[12:06] <LjL> geneo91: how do I turn it off? I don't see anything if I type "ps aux | grep dh", so I wouldn't know how to do it
[12:06] <skipster23>  how can i uninstall java version "1.4.2"  gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)
[12:06] <geneo91> configure it manualy
[12:06] <icheyne> how do I make Firefox the default browser instead of konqueror?
[12:06] <LjL> geneo91: like what?
[12:07] <geneo91> system settings
[12:07] <CaBlGuY> !streamtuner
[12:07] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[12:07] <scott> i changed the reolution now it's locked up just after installing kubuntu-desktop, and i still have video... the install just died
[12:07] <CaBlGuY> Grrrrr
[12:07] <LjL> geneo91: my Network settings in System Settings are set to static, not DHCP
[12:08] <CaBlGuY> scott,  no go huh??
[12:08] <scott> what could be soooo different in 6.06 that i'd have this much trouble installing... exact same hardware i had with 5.10
[12:08] <geneo91> LjL:  well look at dns in there and apply
[12:08] <scott> nope CaBlGuY
[12:09] <CaBlGuY> scott, u couyld try this..  if you still have the breezey distro, install it and then do an upgrade striaght form the desktop.,..
[12:09] <icheyne> anyone managed to get wpa working with an RT2500
[12:09] <LjL> geneo91: that's what I do every time i boot. the problem is that the setting doesn't survive the next reboot
[12:09] <Ashex> Well, that sorta worked
[12:09] <Ashex> The onboard sound card isn't beind detected now
[12:09] <Ashex> and neither is my audigy card
[12:09] <geneo91> LjL:  your system is upto date
[12:10] <LjL> geneo91: i've run the last dist-upgrade not more than 10 minutes ago
[12:10] <scott> good idea CaBlGuY, i end up with the exact same thing i suppose
[12:10] <CaBlGuY> scott,  there's a lot of new stuff thrown into dapper so, it's hard to say exactly what goin on..
[12:10] <scott> it's just frustrating that the install isn't as smooth as a previous version
[12:10] <CaBlGuY> yes. you would end up with dapper in the end, just upgraded instead of striaght install
[12:10] <geneo91> LjL:  take a look at /etc/resolv.cong and remove anyting that does look right
[12:11] <marcreichelt> hi
[12:11] <CaBlGuY> howdy marcreichelt ...
[12:11] <marcreichelt> I have a small problem with udev
[12:11] <scott> i've been 4 hours yesterday, near 6 today... not whining... just saying
[12:11] <LjL> geneo91: the resolv.conf looks quite good -- right now it's got the right settings in it. but it, too, gets reset at reboot
[12:11] <CaBlGuY> scott,  I hear ya man..  I hear ya.. ;)
[12:11] <marcreichelt> I created a new partition on empty space on my disk, but the new partition /dev/hda3 isn't recognized yet
[12:11] <Ashex> geneo91: I'll hit up ##linux, you seem a little busy with other people :p
[12:11] <geneo91> sound like dhcp is kicking it off though
[12:11] <marcreichelt> and I don't want do reboot right now
[12:12] <icheyne> anyone else had trouble getting Azureus to update itself?
[12:12] <CaBlGuY> marcreichelt,  might not recoignise till u do reboot..
[12:12] <icheyne> do I have to kdesu it every time?
[12:12] <LjL> geneo91: perhaps i could remove the dhcp3-client package and see what happens?
[12:12] <marcreichelt> humm...
[12:12] <marcreichelt> no hotplug event, nothing?
[12:12] <loanwolf> ? in Synaptic...whats the orange colored symbol beside packages
[12:13] <insanekane> LjL: /etc/network/interfaces
[12:13] <CaBlGuY> marcreichelt,  not sure..  I'm not "adeot" in udev..  :p
[12:13] <CaBlGuY> *adept
[12:13] <LjL> insanekane: tried that, to no avail. isn't the right syntax "nameserver <ip-address>" there?
[12:13] <insanekane> LjL: do you see dhcp next to eth0 or something ?
[12:13] <marcreichelt> anyway, it _can't_ be that I must restart Linux in order to recognize the new partition... ;-)
[12:13] <LjL> insanekane: no
[12:13] <LjL> insanekane: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/711726
[12:14] <Fenrrir> i have tow audio cards, but dapper swap dsp0 with dsp1, where can correct ?
[12:14] <insanekane> LjL: which is one is your net connection ?
[12:14] <LjL> insanekane: eth0
[12:15] <LjL> insanekane: the other don't even really exist (besides lo)
[12:15] <marcreichelt> I try to ask in ##linux
[12:15] <icheyne> anyone else been totally unable to get ATI drivers working?
[12:15] <insanekane> LjL: do you use eth1,eth2,etc ?
[12:15] <LjL> insanekane: no
[12:15] <insanekane> LjL: ah ok
[12:15] <insanekane> LjL: no ath0, wlan either ?
[12:15] <geneo91> coment those line out
[12:15] <LjL> insanekane: no. all those entries were put in automatically by kubuntu
[12:16] <LjL> geneo91: do you think they could interfer with eth0?
[12:16] <insanekane> LjL: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/711729
[12:16] <geneo91> could be
[12:16] <insanekane> LjL: remove those extra ones, and try
[12:16] <LjL> insanekane: i assume i can prefix a # rather then removing them?
[12:17] <insanekane> sure
[12:17] <geneo91> ah just remove them
[12:17] <LjL> ok, i'm rebooting. back soon
[12:18] <omega> How can I create a directory in /mnt/ with konqueror?
[12:18] <geneo91> you cant
[12:18] <joe_attaboy> use a terminal, omega, like this
[12:18] <omega> But I don't want to use a terminal for all this stuf. =/
[12:18] <joe_attaboy> sudo mkdir /mnt/whatever
[12:19] <geneo91> sudo mkdir /mnt/bla lbla
[12:19] <omega> Everybody always points me towards the terminal.
[12:19] <joe_attaboy> that's the easiert way!
[12:19] <joe_attaboy> unless you login as root and do it that way.
[12:19] <geneo91> sudo konqueror
[12:19] <joe_attaboy> that'll work, too
[12:19] <omega> Hm. I'll try kdesu then.
[12:20] <joe_attaboy> I always install mc. It's a great file manager for terminals, and makes a lot of file and directory work easy.
[12:20] <geneo91> i love mc
[12:20] <joe_attaboy> me ,too
[12:20] <joe_attaboy> I wish it was installed by default on kubuntu
[12:20] <mikedep333> hey guys, what is the preferred kubuntu way to access smb shares?
[12:21] <LjL> geneo91, insanekane: no luck
[12:21] <joe_attaboy> mikedep333: there's lots of ways, but here's what I do.
[12:22] <geneo91> are you sure thats the real dns
[12:22] <joe_attaboy> make sure you have the smbfs package installed.
[12:22] <mikedep333> smb4k does not want to do it as user
[12:22] <geneo91> its not mine by a long shot
[12:22] <LjL> geneo91: <IP_ADDRESS>? absolutely - and it works when i set it in System Settings
[12:22] <joe_attaboy> Install smbfs
[12:22] <mikedep333> I know how to use mount -t smbfs
[12:22] <Tommy2k4> you could smb://ip/sharename
[12:23] <Tommy2k4> or smb://pcname/sharename
[12:23] <joe_attaboy> yesh, then you can just add the mount commands to fstab
[12:23] <mikedep333> tommy: yeah
[12:23] <mikedep333> but then it isn't available to applications
[12:23] <geneo91> LjL:  what does sudo ifconfig rth0 say
[12:23] <Tommy2k4> or mount it by removing the smb:// prefix
[12:23] <geneo91> eth0
[12:23] <Ashex> while trying to install alsa, apt-get threw out this error: http://pastebin.com/711744
[12:24] <LjL> geneo91: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/711745
[12:24] <mikedep333> if you boot your system up on a network where the fstab mount points aren't available, what happens?
[12:24] <joe_attaboy> mike: nothing
[12:24] <Tommy2k4> it just wont mount, no errors
[12:24] <mikedep333> oh, ok, good
[12:24] <joe_attaboy> I do that on my laptop all the time
[12:24] <zax1> i have an interesting problem with ubuntu/xubuntu instalation. i am green and cant figure out what to do. any one interested in the chalange ??                     i installed xubuntu as a dual boot OS together with win2k, 5gb partition for each OS, xubuntu wouldnt finish the install the computer crashed everytime at the mid to end "selecting and installing software".  on the other hand i...
[12:24] <zax1> ...had no problem installing kubuntu on the same machine         i ended up installing kubuntu 5.10 as a 'server' install and followed the direction to update and install xubuntu. once i configured the xserver for gui it loaded up fine but with onloy 600*800 resolution, i rebooted and added 1024*768 resolution and the gui loaded then crashed the computer in a similar maner to how it crashed...
[12:24] <Tommy2k4> i need a way for it to keep trying to mount until it eventually works
[12:24] <zax1> ...when i installed xubuntu......its a 700mhz 128mb laptop with INTEL830M integrated graphics....can any one help me out here ?
[12:24] <zax1> after the crash, i rebooted and am back on the console with no GUI, any ideas on how to proceed ?
[12:25] <geneo91> Ashex check and see if card is in slot properly
[12:25] <mikedep333> sigh, I think gnome has a better way for using network shares
[12:25] <Ashex> geneo91: it is, it's in there
[12:26] <Tommy2k4> what you need mikedep333?
[12:26] <insanekane> zax1: when you install, use the boot options and add "debian-installer/framebuffer=false" to the end before the "--"
[12:26] <geneo91> maybe it went blewy
[12:26] <Ashex> but just to be safe I'll shut down and re-seat it
[12:26] <mikedep333> I would like a way to mount smb shares as a user.
[12:27] <zax1> insanekane , am not sure what you are talking about, where shouldi add it ?
[12:27] <insanekane> zax1: when you start the installation, the boot screen you will see at the bottom something like "F6 Boot Options"
[12:28] <insanekane> zax1: press F6 and add the boot option i just told you
[12:28] <zax1> at the moment i have the kubuntu installed as a server, is there anything i can do now, instead of reinstalling ?
[12:28] <geneo91> hmm
[12:29] <insanekane> zax1: you want GUI ?
[12:29] <insanekane> zax1: install kubuntu-default-settings i guess
[12:29] <zax1> yeah, i want xfce gui
[12:29] <insanekane> of xfce
[12:29] <insanekane> right
[12:29] <zax1> its a slow machine, i wanted the xubuntu GUI
[12:29] <insanekane> !xubuntu-desktop
[12:29] <ubotu> insanekane: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:29] <insanekane> !info xubuntu-desktop
[12:29] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: (Xubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 1.32 (dapper), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[12:30] <insanekane> zax1: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:30] <zax1> will that make sure that it starts with gui every time ?
[12:30] <geneo91> if you use xdm
[12:31] <zax1> i followed thins guide, i think i did that already, could you see if there is any clues to my problem there ?? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingXubuntu
[12:33] <insanekane> zax1: if you type xinit ... does that start the X server ?
[12:33] <zax1> i am just rebooting, will let u know in a minute
[12:35] <geneo91> LjL:  have you tried dhcp
[12:37] <LjL> geneo91: tried removing it, you mean? no, not yet. right now i'm writing a bug report, i think this is a bug, even though we might find a workaround
[12:37] <geneo91> when you installed kubuntu did you let it go with dhcp
[12:38] <zax1> insanekane  , xinit started the gui and it crashed imidiately
[12:38] <LjL> geneo91: hmm... you see, when i installed, it didn't even *ask*. the old text-only installer asked, but the new one didn't
[12:39] <LjL> geneo91: however, I had set static IP from inside the live CD, and apparently the installation took those settings
[12:39] <LjL> geneo91: and, if i recall correctly, the first few boots had the DNS working correctly. i'm not sure what could have changed since then.
[12:39] <geneo91> oh man that live installer is screwy
[12:40] <LjL> geneo91: by the way, the same thing that happens with DNS also happens to the domain name (not that i really need one) -- not too surprising, since they both end up in /etc/resolv.conf
[12:40] <LjL> geneo91: well, i assumed it was stable enough, since they've released it as the "main" CD
[12:41] <geneo91> i used dvd text installer
[12:41] <zax1> any one have any helpfull ideas ? i have no more hair to pull
[12:41] <geneo91> and it even got my cpus right not 386
[12:41] <scott> you bald too, zax1?
[12:42] <LjL> i guess the GUI installer has been released a bit too early
[12:42] <zax1> am now, been messing about with this silly laptop most of the day
[12:42] <geneo91> zax1:  wait a few days till you grow more
[12:42] <zax1> if only i had as many helpful remarks as mocking ones....:|
[12:42] <zax1> :p
[12:43] <geneo91> hey did you try the xubuntu cd installer
[12:43] <zax1> thats what i started with, but it crashed the system right after the "selecting and installing software" stage
[12:43] <linuxmonkey> can someone help me with printer issues
[12:44] <zax1> on the other hand kubuntu full nad server options installs with no problems
[12:44] <geneo91> did you use text mode
[12:44] <geneo91> i'd try that
[12:45] <linuxmonkey> I got a HP Deskjet 3845 and I cant add it, it says it cant create the footmatic driver
[12:46] <Tommy2k4> is there a keyboard shortcut to open konsole
[12:46] <insanekane> zax1: what do you mean "xserver crashed" ?
[12:46] <zax1> yes text mode, geneo91
[12:46] <insanekane> zax1: did it come back to console ?
[12:46] <zax1> no never came back
[12:46] <insanekane> then ?
[12:46] <insanekane> it showed the X cursor ?
[12:46] <zax1> alt ctrl back space or alt +2 didnt work
[12:46] <insanekane> and a terminal window ?
[12:47] <zax1> had to reboot
[12:47] <zax1> it showed the x, then the curtains fell on it and it became black from top to bottom
[12:47] <insanekane> so, you didnt see the stipple design, the "X" like cursor and a terminal window ?
[12:47] <geneo91> how much ram it have
[12:47] <LjL> geneo91: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdeadmin/+bug/49917
[12:47] <zax1> 128ram and 246 swap partition
[12:47] <pxl> ola, quick question, say im in /home/user/files and i want to copy all the files, sub dirs and files in the sub dirs to /home/user , what would the correct syntax for that be?
[12:47] <james_xxx> why won't amarok play an audio CD, but kaffeine will?
[12:48] <Ashex> damnation, I still can't get alsa to recognize my card
[12:49] <arb> ok let me try this, whats the command to copy a directory and all its sub directories and files? i tried cp -r but that didnt seem to work
[12:49] <geneo91> Ashex sudo lsmod
[12:49] <insanekane> arb: cp -R
[12:49] <visik7> arb: drag & drop ?
[12:49] <visik7> no
[12:49] <arb> thanks insanekane
[12:49] <arb> visik7: remote server
[12:49] <visik7> fish ?
[12:50] <visik7> fish://user:password@serverssh
[12:50] <Ashex> geneo91: http://pastebin.com/711800 and I'm pretty sure the module is emu10kxx
[12:50] <james_xxx> can someone tell me how to configure amarok to play audio CD's?
[12:52] <geneo91> Ashex both uses that module
[12:52] <Ashex> geneo91: what do you mean? I'm not sure I understand what you're saying
[12:52] <arb> visik7: im trying to copy the content of a folder (html, images and sub folders) to another dir, but when i try it doesnt copy the dirs across... even with the -R... so im doing something wrong... i navigate to the dir, and this is the command i run... but it doesnt work: cp -R *.* ~/httpdocs
[12:53] <visik7> arb: have u ever tried fish ?
[12:53] <arb> visik7: nope, i havent, what is it or should i google?
[12:53] <visik7> you have
[12:53] <visik7> if you have kde
[12:53] <arb> yeah
[12:53] <visik7> open konqueror
[12:53] <arb> i have kde
[12:53] <geneo91> Ashex try rmmod emu10k1
[12:53] <visik7> and type fish://serverssh
[12:54] <geneo91> sudo first then
[12:54] <arb> visik7: nooit, is it a gui scp client?
[12:54] <visik7> a gui sftp
[12:54] <insanekane> arb: try cp -R ./* ~/httpdocs
[12:54] <arb> ok tar, let me try that then
[12:54] <arb> shot insanekane
[12:54] <zax1> well, anyone else...?
[12:54] <Ashex> geneo91: ERROR: Module emu10k1 does not exist in /proc/modules
[12:55] <insanekane> arb: shot ?
[12:55] <zax1> F me. back to kubuntu then, thanks for the help
[12:55] <geneo91> ok then modprobe emu10k1
[12:55] <insanekane> zax1: you know .. you arent following the instructions on that webpafe
[12:55] <insanekane> webage
[12:55] <Ashex> geneo91: FATAL: Module emu10k1 not found.
[12:55] <Ashex> Gah!
[12:56] <zax1> how so insane ?
[12:56] <Ashex> oh, it should be snd+emu10k1
[12:56] <geneo91> you just showed it in lsmod
[12:56] <Ashex> er, snd_emu10k1
[12:56] <crimsun_> Ashex: what's the issue?
[12:56] <zax1> i did, it didnt do the job
[12:56] <insanekane> zax1: i remember it tells you right in there how to enable the GUI etc
[12:56] <Ashex> Alsa isn't detecting my sound card
[12:56] <zax1> i know
[12:56] <Ashex> it was a few days ago, but it's suddenly stopped
[12:57] <zax1> i followed it , and cant get it up
[12:57] <insanekane> zax1: did you install gdm/kdm ?
[12:57] <Ashex> lspci shows the card is there, but alsa refuses to use it
[12:57] <zax1> no, it also gives the option for XFCE
[12:57] <crimsun_> Ashex: pastebin ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat && amixer && cat /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc*''
[12:57] <geneo91> crimsun_:  he had onboard snd on also
[12:57] <insanekane> zax1: what ?
[12:57] <insanekane> zax1: how about xdm ?
[12:58] <arb> thanks insanekane, worked, i wanna learn the command line stuffs, so thanks for the help.
[12:58] <zax1> Optional: if your computer is terribly slow, you do not need to install gdm nor kdm. Just start xfce with a command startxfce4 or just type xserver. For automating this, put it into the init files
[12:58] <insanekane> you cant automate it
[12:58] <Ashex> crimsun_: http://pastebin.com/711816
[12:58] <insanekane> either you use kdm/gdm/xdm ... or you login in the console
[12:58] <Ashex> Yeah, I've disabled the onboard sound in the bios
[12:59] <zax1> oh, well 2 b honest automating is less important just now, i wonder y is it crashing all the time
[12:59] <insanekane> either way, you can't enter the system without logging in
[12:59] <james_xxx> can someone tell me how to configure amarok to play audio CD's?
[12:59] <insanekane> zax1: so startxfce4 crashes ?
[01:00] <crimsun_> Ashex: and ``dmesg''?
[01:00] <zax1> i think am not sure who exactly crashes, just know that when i type xinit,xserver, startxfce4 it would t load
[01:00] <insanekane> zax1: ok, you said you modified the xorg configuration right ? changed some resolution ?
[01:00] <Ashex> crimsun_: http://pastebin.com/711822
[01:00] <zax1> i think when thy write automate - they meant to go stright to the gui
[01:00] <insanekane> zax1: i strongly suggest you go back to 640x480 and get it working again
[01:01] <zax1> is there a way i can load a fresh back up of the option, cuz i played about with it, since it wouldnt work
[01:01] <insanekane> zax1: yes, it is not possible to go straight to Xfce .. you need to login ... either graphical login aka kdm/gdm/xdm ... or console login
[01:01] <insanekane> zax1: fresh backup ?
[01:01] <insanekane> zax1: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:02] <zax1> sudo first ?
[01:02] <insanekane> yes
[01:02] <crimsun_> Ashex: pretty clear from the paste
[01:02] <crimsun_> [4294691.606000]  ALSA /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_codec.c:1910: AC'97 0 does not respond - RESET
[01:02] <crimsun_> [4294691.606000]  ALSA /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/pci/ac97/ac97_codec.c:1919: AC'97 0 access is not valid [0x0] , removing mixer.
[01:02] <crimsun_> Ashex: note that you're running an old kernel. Please update to -25-
[01:03] <Ashex> bleh, any way to do that with apt?
[01:03] <psyk> i need help configuring wpa supplicant
[01:04] <psyk> can anyone please help?
[01:04] <crimsun_> Ashex: update && dist-upgrade
[01:04] <crimsun_> psyk: I only use the conffiles
[01:04] <psyk> what are th econfiles
[01:05] <crimsun_> (no network-manager or wlassistant or the like)
[01:05] <zax1> insanekane, ny specific way to start up the xfce ?
[01:05] <psyk> i need to get wpa working on my laptop asap
[01:05] <crimsun_> psyk: the text-based configuration files
[01:05] <zax1> startxfce4 ?
[01:05] <Ashex> crimsun_: so what are the odds that my audigy card will work after this?
[01:05] <crimsun_> Ashex: 50%
[01:05] <willy> are any channel in spanish  to kubuntu ??????
[01:05] <zax1> is there a way to force it to log any errors ?
[01:05] <LjL> crimsun_, a quick question: given i'm using kubuntu.org's KDE 3.5.3, should i log possibly-KDE-related problems on launchpad, or rather talk to Riddell, or what?
[01:05] <insanekane> zax1: automatically ? use xdm/kdm/gdm
[01:05] <psyk> how do i edit and save files in shell?
[01:05] <LjL> psyk: use nano
[01:05] <Kyral> vi, nano, or emacs
[01:05] <Ashex> crimsun_: I'll flip coins while I wait
[01:06] <crimsun_> LjL: probably discuss on the mailing list
[01:06] <willy> are any channel in spanish  to kubuntu ??????
[01:06] <crimsun_> !es
[01:06] <LjL> crimsun_: ok, thanks
[01:06] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:06] <insanekane> willy: maybe kubuntu-es ?
[01:06] <psyk> nano?\
[01:06] <zax1> LIKE THAT ?    sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start
[01:06] <willy> thanks
[01:06] <LjL> psyk: "nano <filename>"
[01:06] <insanekane> zax1: yes
[01:07] <psyk> does enabled=0 mean disabled?
[01:07] <zax1> i get command not found
[01:07] <Ashex> crimsun_: so just reboot and see if the sound card is detected I'm guessing
[01:07] <crimsun_> psyk: yes
[01:07] <psyk> what do i do enabled=1?
[01:08] <psyk> and how do i exit with nano and save
[01:08] <crimsun_> psyk: for what? where?
[01:08] <psyk> its in my etc/default/wpasupplicant file
[01:08] <zax1> insanekane, i get command not found
[01:08] <crimsun_> psyk: that file is deprecated if you're using dapper (6.06 lts)
[01:08] <psyk> when i try to run it it says wpasupplicant disabled
[01:08] <zax1> but with running startxfce4 the desktop loads
[01:08] <zax1> huray
[01:08] <LjL> psyk: look at the bottom of the screen, there are instructions
[01:09] <LjL> psyk: specifically, press ctrl+x
[01:09] <scarn> anyone know of a way yet, to stop k/ubuntu setting the clock 5 hours ahead?
[01:09] <zax1> now,  it doesnt stretch to the entire screen - i get about 2inches on all sides of black margin
[01:09] <psyk> whats deprecated?
[01:09] <LjL> scarn: perhaps you've set your timezone wrong?
[01:09] <scarn> LjL nope
[01:09] <psyk> man im using breezy badger
[01:09] <psyk> does the new dapper support wpa?
[01:10] <psyk> easier at least or something
[01:10] <crimsun_> psyk: yes, both breezy and dapper do
[01:10] <crimsun_> psyk: so yes, change that enabled to =1
[01:10] <psyk> now i just trying to save and it says permission denied
[01:11] <james_xxx> can someone tell me how to configure amarok to play audio CD's?
[01:11] <crimsun_> psyk: you will also need to edit /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[01:11] <scarn> its set correctly. its when rebooting back to windows. the windows clock gets set 5 hours ahead
[01:11] <crimsun_> psyk: you need superuser privileges to edit it by default
[01:11] <scarn> dont recall if k/ubuntus is messed when going back
[01:11] <psyk> im in nano and i need to save changed
[01:11] <scarn> i want to keep kubuntu, but this makes it not worth it
[01:11] <LjL> psyk: ctrl+x, as i said
[01:12] <LjL> psyk: oh, permission denied? then you need to edit as root
[01:12] <psyk> got it
[01:12] <LjL> psyk: "sudo nano <filename>"
[01:12] <LjL> psyk: when you touch any file that's not in your home directory, you usually need to be root
[01:14] <zax1> does any one know how i get to the repositories through a gui on Xubuntu ?
[01:14] <[Evil] [Ernie] > Adept?
[01:15] <zax1> i cant find synaptic or the other one- adept
[01:15] <Ashex> crimsun_: I've rebooted and no change
[01:15] <[Evil] [Ernie] > k menu- system- adept
[01:15] <zax1> Xubuntu - not Kubuntu
[01:15] <[Evil] [Ernie] > oops
[01:15] <zax1> my bad, am in the wrtong irc, but no one answers down in xubuntu
[01:15] <james_xxx> usually a xubuntu install includes synaptic
[01:16] <Ashex> mebers12
[01:16] <Ashex> oops, wrong channel >_>
[01:16] <zax1> this xubuntu was done on the back of a kubuntu server install, and runs the xfce dm(pfffew i sound like i know what i am talkin about) so maybe it doesnt
[01:17] <james_xxx> zax1: ifit isn't there, then install it
[01:17] <Ashex> ah screw it, I'll deal with this problem another time. I just want music
[01:17] <zax1> how do i do that james?
[01:17] <crimsun_> Ashex: dmesg would have been helpful
[01:18] <james_xxx> isn't it sudo apt-get install synaptic  ?
[01:19] <zax1> i wouldnt know am as green as the grass, but i'll give it a try, thanks
[01:19] <james_xxx> can someone tell me how to configure amarok to play audio CD's?
[01:21] <clayton> heheh, here i am
[01:22] <nouse66> ls
[01:23] <visik7> what is the warning on upgrade :
[01:23] <visik7> Setting up pcmcia-cs (3.2.8-5.2ubuntu7) ...
[01:23] <visik7>  * Linux >= 2.6.13-rc1 requires pcmciautils instead of pcmcia-cs
[01:23] <crimsun_> Ashex: 19:17 < crimsun_> Ashex: dmesg would have been helpful
[01:23] <Ashex> heh
[01:23] <crimsun_> visik7: that's expected. You know, you're not running 2.6.12 anymore. :)
[01:23] <crimsun_> Ashex: did you remove the audigy?
[01:23] <visik7> ok have I to do something ?
[01:24] <crimsun_> visik7: you don't have to do a thing
[01:24] <visik7> ok
[01:24] <visik7> thanks
[01:24] <Ashex> crimsun_: nah, it's still there. All I did was enable my onboard sound in bios
[01:24] <zax1> can some one tell me how do i get a better driver for my graphics controller. and why does it works fantastic outof the box for kubuntu and not for xubuntu ?
[01:24] <james_xxx> i have kubuntu on two computers, and audio CD's play on the one (in amarok) but not the other....
[01:24] <Ashex> crimsun_: here's the dmesg http://pastebin.com/711866
[01:26] <Ashex> crimsun_: look at line 288
[01:26] <crimsun_> Ashex: that error in dmesg indicates hardware failure
[01:26] <Ashex> :/
[01:26] <crimsun_> Ashex: please confirm with another OS that it works
[01:26] <Ashex> I'll boot into windows and check
[01:26] <Ashex|Lappy|> crap in a hat
[01:26] <Ashex|Lappy|> if my audigy card is bad, that's going to really suck
[01:28] <visik7> is there a frontend for /etc/network/interfaces ?
[01:28] <Nick1> I'm thinking of making the switch from windows to linux. But I don't know if I should choose Kubuntu or SuSe.
[01:29] <geneo91> stick with kubuntu
[01:29] <Xymor> why not?
[01:30] <Ashex|Lappy|> if you're going to ask whether kubuntu or SuSe is better in the kubuntu channel
[01:30] <Ashex|Lappy|> i'd say it's fairly obvious what you're answer will be
[01:30] <Ashex|Lappy|> :p
[01:30] <geneo91> well i can tell you i just dumped suse 10.1 it sucked and yast blows
[01:31] <james_xxx> can someone tell me how to configure amarok to play audio CD's?
[01:31] <Ashex|Lappy|> Heh, actually i don't really like SuSe very much
[01:32] <zax1> from the XFCE desktop, how do i make sure i run as administrator ?
[01:32] <geneo91> i've tried it many times in rhe last 7 years it never get any better
[01:32] <Ashex|Lappy|> if you want an OS loaded with a rediculous amount of apps and a confusing software installer, use SuSe
[01:33] <ICXCNIKA> Well I've heard SuSe is more user-friendly than Kubuntu. Really I don't do a lot of magic on my computer. Just word processing and web browsing.
[01:33] <Ashex|Lappy|> and those 5 cd's you burn to install, you need those to install additional things
[01:33] <Ashex|Lappy|> or you can just modify your repositories to use the web
[01:34] <Ashex|Lappy|> crimsun_: I've booted into windows at the device manager shows the audigy card
[01:35] <crimsun_> Ashex|Lappy|: and sounds play fine?
[01:35] <geneo91> Ashex|Lappy|:  does it wok though
[01:36] <animato> hello, i just started using kubuntu
[01:36] <Ashex|Lappy|> Heh, I'm checking that
[01:36] <Ashex|Lappy|> and I'm thinking the answer to those questions is no....
[01:37] <animato> what's the use of saving the last session? is it safe to cancel? how do i do it?
[01:37] <Ashex|Lappy|> I was switching sound ports in the back when the os suddenly gave me blue squiggly lines across the screens
[01:37] <Ashex|Lappy|> I'll try the front panel
[01:38] <Ashex|Lappy|> I'm guessing we've all decided it's a hardware issue
[01:38] <ICXCNIKA> How do you like it animato?
[01:38] <animato> i like it very much
[01:38] <Ashex|Lappy|> crimsun_: yup, I'm getting sound out the front panel
[01:38] <animato> used ubuntu before, and i think i like kde better now :)
[01:39] <crimsun_> Ashex|Lappy|: what is "the front panel"?
[01:39] <animato> can i cancel that "save last session" thighy?
[01:39] <animato> thingy
[01:39] <Ashex|Lappy|> The audigy card has the pci card and a seperate part thats fit into the front drive slot
[01:39] <crimsun_> oh, the livedrive?
[01:39] <Ashex|Lappy|> Yeah
[01:40] <crimsun_> yeah, you're kinda screwed there
[01:40] <crimsun_> the driver is pretty accurate
[01:40] <Ashex|Lappy|> it connects to the card though :/
[01:40] <Ashex|Lappy|> oh well, I guess i'll live with the onboard sound
[01:40] <Ashex|Lappy|> it's not that bad though, has 5.1 with optical
[01:41] <ICXCNIKA> I've used Mandriva before for like two months. Wasn't too impressed with it animato.
[01:41] <ICXCNIKA> Right now I'm using XP>
[01:41] <geneo91> booo
[01:42] <Ashex|Lappy|> Yay! Time to play musical pci slots!
[01:42] <animato> is there a black theme for konv?
[01:43] <LjL> i don't think konversation has themes at all, except for the user icons
[01:43] <Cayou> I have a weird sound problem, sounds appear to be "late". When I play a game, I hear sounds about 1/2 second after they are triggered... any clues?
[01:44] <LjL> you certainly can change the background color though
[01:44] <Ashex|Lappy|> If I can't get this card to work, I'll run it through the dishwasher and try again
[01:44] <animato> ok thanx
[01:44] <animato> and why does adept fails to load sometimes?
[01:44] <geneo91> Ashex|Lappy|:  try the freezer
[01:44] <animato> i click on it, it loads and then quits
[01:44] <animato> :(
[01:44] <Ashex|Lappy|> the freezer?
[01:45] <geneo91> yeah i used to put electronic things in freezer to fix them
[01:45] <LjL> animato: wouldn't know. sounds like a bug
[01:45] <Ashex|Lappy|> Ha
[01:45] <Ashex|Lappy|> I just run them through the dishwasher
[01:45] <animato> :(
[01:46] <animato> if i install kmplayer, do i need to install mplayer too for it to work?
[01:46] <geneo91> it will install all files needed
[01:46] <animato> ok thanx
[01:47] <animato> what about w32codecs? does libxine-extracodecs include those?
[01:47] <Ashex|Lappy|> Yup
[01:47] <animato> thanx
[01:47] <Ashex|Lappy|> Name: Creative Audigy 2 soundcard
[01:48] <animato> wow, kde is more amazing than i thought :)
[01:48] <geneo91> it'll play just about any format there is
[01:48] <Ashex|Lappy|> time of Death: June 15, 2006 4:48 pm PST
[01:48] <animato> it makes me happy i ditched gnome for it :)
[01:48] <Ashex|Lappy|> :(
[01:48] <geneo91> whens the funeral
[01:49] <stodge> adept will only start in read only mode. I tried killall adept but that didn't do anything
[01:49] <stodge> Any ideas?
[01:49] <dbglt> apt running somewhere else?
[01:50] <stodge> No- rebooted
[01:50] <geneo91> yeah sudo apt-get install synaptic
[01:50] <dbglt> you are running it with kdesu, yeah?
[01:50] <stodge> I'm running it through the main menu
[01:51] <stodge> I guess adept had crashed
[01:51] <paul_> hi any ALICE ADSL user that help with WiFi?
[01:51] <dbglt> only thing I can guess is that the lock file hasn't been removed
[01:51] <dbglt> if you aren't running any instances of apt
[01:51] <stodge> Had to do       dpkg --configure -a
[01:52] <ICXCNIKA> I'm just wondering if Kubuntu makes for a good desktop OS.
[01:53] <Ashex|Lappy|> I use it for my desktop
[01:53] <LjL> me too
[01:53] <stodge> koffice still has a long way to go but it is a good desktop
[01:54] <stodge> Anyone using a PDA with kpilot?
[01:56] <RawSewage> A long way to go to where
[01:57] <RawSewage> tj9991, does it put you out too much to idle on #Boringville
[01:59] <nouse66> has anyone gotten mysql-query-browser 1.1.18 working? (i.e. not segfaunt on startup)
[02:01] <Cayou> I'm experiencing a delay problem with sound, just about 1 second... any help?
[02:04] <leafwiz> Hi, I keep getting this error while using opera:
[02:04] <leafwiz> SkillSoft talked to 3,000 people to come up with its conclusion that handling the computers frazzles the nerves more than any other job
[02:04] <leafwiz> motifwrapper: X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
[02:04] <leafwiz> motifwrapper: X Error: serial=0x98120, request=0x4, request_minor=0x0, resource=0x400014e
[02:06] <josh> hey all
[02:06] <kuzmaster>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY 234923
[02:06] <LjL> kuzmaster: change your password, and please next time type that into the server window
[02:06] <kuzmaster> sorry
[02:06] <LjL> ;-)
[02:07] <kuzmaster> i diddnt mean to tpye it into here
[02:07] <LjL> i had no doubts that you didn't ;)
[02:08] <kuzmaster> i just installed kubuntu
[02:08] <kuzmaster> but there are no packages to install in adept
[02:08] <LjL> *no* packages at all?
[02:08] <kuzmaster> it says that there all installed
[02:08] <LjL> try "sudo apt-get update" in the console
[02:08] <kuzmaster> ok
[02:09] <kuzmaster> do i have to go sudo -i first?
[02:09] <LjL> no
[02:09] <kuzmaster> ok
[02:10] <LjL> don't use sudo -i, unless you find it absolutely necessary (i.e. just about never)
[02:10] <apokryphos> eh? sudo -i is fine to use
[02:10] <kuzmaster> heres what i got after sudo apt-get update
[02:10] <kuzmaster> Reading package lists... Done
[02:10] <james_xxx> can someone tell me how to configure amarok to play audio CD's?
[02:10] <LjL> apokryphos: helps giving the bad habit of staying root all the time
[02:10] <apokryphos> if you're going to be executing several commands as root, it's more useless to keep prefixing your commands with sudo
[02:10] <james_xxx> linux seems to suck for streaming media
[02:10] <LjL> apokryphos: i thought that's one of the very reasons ubuntu uses sudo - to help people get the habit of only using root when needed
[02:10] <kuzmaster> nope, that diddnt do anything
[02:11] <kuzmaster> all the packages are installed, same as before
[02:11] <apokryphos> LjL: indeed it is (by no means the only one), but doesn't mean you shouldn't do when it's more convenient (and perfectly safe to).
[02:11] <LjL> kuzmaster: try     apt-cache search  "" | wc -l
[02:11] <kuzmaster> ok
[02:12] <kuzmaster> apt-cache search  "" | wc -l ?
[02:12] <LjL> apokryphos: true, but i bet he (as anybody else) will use it anyway, when he finds it really convenient
[02:12] <LjL> kuzmaster: yeah, it'll show how many packages there are that APT can see
[02:12] <kuzmaster> all i got was '937'
[02:12] <LjL> uh, that's a little... little
[02:12] <LjL> kuzmaster: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin
[02:13] <geneo91> thats just the cd then
[02:13] <LjL> yeah i bet so
[02:13] <kuzmaster> ill show a screenshot of adept
[02:13] <LjL> wonder why no repositories have been added to the sources.list though
[02:13] <LjL> kuzmaster: i don't need that, i need to see your sources.list to see what's wrong
[02:13] <kuzmaster> ok
[02:13] <kuzmaster> ill show
[02:14] <geneo91> maybe because networking wasn't setup right
[02:14] <kuzmaster> heres the screen shot anyway
[02:14] <LjL> geneo91: but i just told him to "apt-get update"
[02:14] <kuzmaster> http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1106/snapshot12gz.jpg
[02:14] <LeeJunFan> yeah, skip networking setup or dhcp fails and repos don't get setup.
[02:14] <LjL> LeeJunFan: oh?
[02:14] <geneo91> that dont add nothing
[02:15] <LjL> geneo91: no, it doesn't add any reps indeed. but i didn't know that repositories wouldn't get *added* when no network was present
[02:15] <LjL> !easysource
[02:15] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:15] <LjL> kuzmaster: that site will allow you to create a working sources.list file
[02:15] <LeeJunFan> LjL: yeah, I've set up quite a few systems skipping networking until after and repos don't get setup correctly, and it doesn't even make a resolv.conf also.
[02:16] <kuzmaster> heres my sources.list
[02:16] <kuzmaster> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/711936
[02:16] <LeeJunFan> As if it would know what to put in resolv.conf :)
[02:16] <kuzmaster> i dont think i have a resolv.conf
[02:16] <kuzmaster> where should it be?
[02:17] <LjL> kuzmaster: ok, uncomment lines 3, 5, 10, 12, 21, 22, 35, 37, 38, 39
[02:17] <kuzmaster> ok
[02:17] <LjL> LeeJunFan: i'm having DNS problems, too
[02:17] <geneo91> LjL:  still need multiverse
[02:17] <LeeJunFan> kuzmaster: /etc/resolv.conf - if you don't have one I suspect you wouldn't even be able to get online since the system wouldn't know what nameserver to use.
[02:17] <LjL> LeeJunFan: my KDE network settings will get wiped out at every reboot :\ (same for resolv.conf, of course)
[02:18] <kuzmaster> but everytime i open the sources.list for the first time in root
[02:18] <kuzmaster> it says 'malformed url'
[02:18] <kuzmaster> just to let u know
[02:18] <LjL> uhm?
[02:18] <LjL> not sure i understand
[02:18] <kuzmaster> its done that in 3 installations
[02:19] <CaptainMorgan> how do I get wlan assistant to load on every startup?
[02:19] <LeeJunFan> LjL: hrm, are you using DHCP? perhaps the DHCP server is sending bad info so your resolv.conf doesn't get setup right.
[02:20] <LjL> LeeJunFan: no, i'm using a static IP. actually... https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdeadmin/+bug/49917
[02:21] <LeeJunFan> LjL: change eth0 from manual to static
[02:21] <LeeJunFan> and make sure there's an auto eth0 line as well.
[02:21] <kuzmaster> after i modify the sources.list should i go sudo apt-get update?
[02:21] <geneo91> kuzmaster: yes
[02:21] <LjL> LeeJunFan: uh? change it where?
[02:21] <kuzmaster> k
[02:22] <james_xxx> can someone tell me how to configure amarok to play audio CD's?
[02:22] <LjL> LeeJunFan: yes, /etc/network/interfaces has "auto eth0"
[02:22] <LeeJunFan> LjL: oh, wait. do you have address, netmask, gateway lines (etc) in /etc/network/interfaces for eth0?
[02:22] <apokryphos> james_xxx: it should be able to play them by default
[02:22] <LjL> LeeJunFan: yes. i also have a "nameserver" line (because i added it manually), but doesn't quite work
[02:22] <james_xxx> hmmm
[02:22] <apokryphos> james_xxx: what engine are you using?
[02:22] <CaptainMorgan> amarok rawks!
[02:22] <kuzmaster> it looks like it doing the same as the last 3 installations, cto'ing
[02:23] <LeeJunFan> LjL: okay, then change manual to static and make sure there's a line that says auto eth0
[02:23] <kuzmaster> brb
[02:23] <LjL> LeeJunFan: "manual to static" you mean in /e/n/interfaces? if so, it already says "iface eth0 inet static"
[02:24] <geneo91> LjL:  i bet its from live cd thats doing it
[02:24] <LeeJunFan> LjL: okay, in your launchpad bug it says manual. You should only need to add a line "auto eth0"
[02:25] <LjL> LeeJunFan: it says "Manual" as the KDE Network settings are concerned, not as /etc/network/interfaces is concerned
[02:25] <james_xxx> apokryphos: xine engine
[02:25] <LeeJunFan> LjL: ah.
[02:25] <apokryphos> should be fine, yeah.
[02:25] <james_xxx> CaptainMorgan: amarok rocks on my laptop, but not on this PC
[02:25] <LjL> LeeJunFan: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/711943
[02:25] <james_xxx> apokryphos: it does not work.
[02:26] <LjL> geneo91: it may well be that, but i don't really feel like installing from scratch ;-)
[02:26] <james_xxx> apokryphos: it will not even allow me to click on 'play audio CD'
[02:28] <LjL> i'm starting to doubt whether i had that problem with KDE 3.5.2 (i'm running 3.5.3 now). i thought i did, but i'm not so terribly sure..
[02:29] <LjL> perhaps i could give it a quick test in VMWare
[02:29] <kuzmaster> im back
[02:30] <LjL> oh, fine, vmware wants kernel version -23, and 386 rather than K7
[02:30] <LeeJunFan> LjL: maybe the nameserver thing is stopping it from ifup-ing correctly, I really wish that was documented in the interfaces manpage, just a sec, I'll get the syntax from another sys.
[02:30] <kuzmaster> sudo apt-get failed, heres what i got http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/711948
[02:31] <kuzmaster> it just keeps cto'ing
[02:31] <LjL> LeeJunFan: but i did *not* have the "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" entry before... i tried adding it because of this very problem
[02:31] <LjL> kuzmaster: your nameserver definitely isn't working...
[02:31] <LjL> it things the ubuntu mirrors are at IP address <IP_ADDRESS> :o)
[02:31] <LjL> s/things/thinks/
[02:31] <kuzmaster> hmmmm
[02:32] <kuzmaster> how do i fix it
[02:32] <LeeJunFan> LjL: well, anyway, it should be dns-nameservers I guess, implemented by resolvconf package.
[02:32] <kuzmaster> that happend on 3 seperate installations
[02:32] <LjL> i don't know. if you can connect to IRC, it means you somehow *can* resolve names...
[02:32] <kuzmaster> my resolv.config says this...
[02:32] <kuzmaster> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:33] <kuzmaster> that the ip address of my router
[02:33] <LjL> LeeJunFan: meaning i should add a "dns-nameservers" entry to /e/n/interfaces?
[02:33] <kuzmaster> soooooo, what should i do?
[02:33] <LeeJunFan> LjL: instead of just nameserver.
[02:33] <LjL> kuzmaster: try "nslookup au.archive.ubuntu.com"
[02:33] <LjL> LeeJunFan: i'll try that
[02:34] <james_xxx> apokryphos: KsCD acts like it is working , but i get no sound
[02:34] <kuzmaster> LeejunFan, in konsole?
[02:34] <crimsun_> james_xxx: is kscd configured to use digital audio extraction?
[02:34] <james_xxx> kaffeine will play the audio CD if i right click on the CD's icon and select 'play audio CD in kaffeine'
[02:34] <kuzmaster> in konsole?
[02:34] <LjL> kuzmaster: yes
[02:34] <LeeJunFan> kuzmaster: yes.
[02:34] <james_xxx> crimsun_: i don't know
[02:34] <kuzmaster> k
[02:34] <crimsun_> james_xxx: check its preferences
[02:35] <LjL> kuzmaster: should be <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:35] <kuzmaster> heres what i get http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/711954
[02:35] <LjL> that's correct
[02:36] <LjL> hm
[02:36] <kuzmaster> ok then, why isnt it working
[02:36] <james_xxx> crimsun_: thank you
[02:36] <kuzmaster> could it be somthing with my router
[02:36] <kuzmaster> i have a wireless connection
[02:37] <LjL> well, it *is* resolving the names, and yet apt-get believes it isn't... so i doubt it
[02:37] <kuzmaster> ok
[02:37] <LjL> try it once more though, just to be sure
[02:37] <kuzmaster> apt-get update?
[02:37] <LjL> yes
[02:37] <kuzmaster> k
[02:37] <geneo91> sudo
[02:38] <kuzmaster> it done more than last time
[02:38] <kuzmaster> it is getting somthings
[02:38] <kuzmaster> but not others
[02:38] <LjL> "Some broadband gateways (modems) can't handle multiple high-speed dns requests. The best known culprits are the Actiontec DSL gateways, but others may be effected as well. Contact your ISP & obtain the primary & secondary DNS server. It should be a long number like 123.456.7.89"
[02:38] <LjL> http://www.mepis.org/node/6516
[02:39] <LeeJunFan> well it's not saying it can't find it is it? it's saying it can't connect?
[02:39] <LjL> LeeJunFan: yeah, but i have no doubts that it wouldn't connect to <IP_ADDRESS> ;-)
[02:39] <kuzmaster> its doing heaps this time
[02:39] <kuzmaster> but some are failing
[02:39] <james_xxx> crimsun_: would you have any idea why i can't get amarok to play audio CD's?
[02:39] <crimsun_> james_xxx: I don't use amarok.
[02:40] <LjL> kuzmaster: try editing your /etc/resolv.conf, and at the "nameserver" line, set "<IP_ADDRESS>" as the IP address
[02:40] <kuzmaster> heres my results
[02:40] <kuzmaster> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/711960
[02:40] <LjL> kuzmaster: then apt-get update again
[02:40] <kuzmaster> you might what to have a look at that first
[02:40] <LjL> kuzmaster: right, it's working this time
[02:40] <LjL> kuzmaster: it isn't finding some of the sites, but that's a different issue
[02:40] <kuzmaster> ok
[02:40] <kuzmaster> ill try adept now
[02:41] <kuzmaster> are those sites it not finding important?
[02:42] <LjL> yes
[02:42] <geneo91> try changing to uk instead of au
[02:42] <kuzmaster> ok
[02:42] <LjL> geneo91: but it appears not to be finding even security.ubuntu.com
[02:42] <kuzmaster> there are a lot more packages this time
[02:43] <LjL> i'm sure there are... but you're missing the security updates, which are important
[02:43] <kuzmaster> should i still change my resolv.conf to <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:43] <LjL> no
[02:43] <kuzmaster> k
[02:43] <LjL> just try the update one more time - might have been a temporary glitch of the server
[02:43] <james_xxx> KsCD will not even let me change its size lol
[02:43] <kuzmaster> ok
[02:43] <LjL> (though, you might keep http://www.mepis.org/node/6516 in your bookmarks, 'cause i suspect the problem with DNS can happen again)
[02:43] <kuzmaster> me?
[02:44] <LjL> (<IP_ADDRESS> is an Italian DNS server, which I know to be publicly accessible... but it'd certainly be best to use your ISP's DNS)
[02:44] <LjL> yes you
[02:44] <kuzmaster> k
[02:44] <kuzmaster> and apt-get update isnt working again
[02:45] <LjL> oh what the heck, just try the <IP_ADDRESS> thing
[02:45] <kuzmaster> ok then
[02:45] <kuzmaster> what excatly would that do?
[02:45] <LjL> i'm starting to think your router's DNS is confusing servers with each other
[02:45] <kuzmaster> maybe
[02:45] <LjL> kuzmaster: it would use <IP_ADDRESS> as your DNS server rather than your router's DNS server
[02:45] <kuzmaster> ummm, wats dns
[02:45] <kuzmaster> im not the best with networking
[02:45] <LjL> Domain Name Server
[02:45] <geneo91> name server
[02:45] <LeeJunFan> awe hell, get bind9 installed and change resolv.conf to <IP_ADDRESS> :)
[02:46] <kuzmaster> ok
[02:46] <LjL> they're servers that translate hostnames (like www.google.com) into IP addressed (like <IP_ADDRESS>)
[02:46] <kuzmaster> so change resolv.conf to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[02:46] <LjL> yeah
[02:46] <kuzmaster> will do
[02:46] <LjL> it's only temporary anyway -- it'll be reset at next reboot
[02:47] <LeeJunFan> or when your current dhcp lease runs out.
[02:47] <LjL> hopefully not in the next 5 minutes
[02:47] <geneo91> LjL:  just got a bunch of updates maybe mirrors are being updated
[02:47] <kuzmaster> i need to do it in root, right?
[02:47] <LjL> geneo91: could be, but i tried an apt-get update right after he tried it (twice), and it worked for me
[02:47] <LjL> kuzmaster: yep
[02:47] <kuzmaster> k
[02:48] <geneo91> sudo nano >filename<
[02:48] <kuzmaster> i just go actions-> edit as root
[02:48] <kuzmaster> gui is easier for me
[02:48] <bernier> why is the video quality in kaffeine very bad? I send the same video to my friend and he has windows and it looks so nice.
[02:48] <geneo91> bernier:  use mplayer
[02:49] <bernier> geneo91 perfect thanks
[02:49] <kuzmaster> after i change my resolv.conf
[02:49] <LjL> LeeJunFan: (concerning bind9 ;-) i use "dnsmasq", it works fairly well and it's a piece of cake to configure
[02:49] <kuzmaster> do i do apt-get update again
[02:49] <LjL> kuzmaster: yep
[02:49] <kuzmaster> k
[02:50] <kuzmaster> it looks like its all working
[02:50] <kuzmaster> ill post out put
[02:50] <LjL> kuzmaster: good, then i'm rather convinced that http://www.mepis.org/node/6516 is the cause of your problems
[02:50] <kuzmaster> same
[02:51] <kuzmaster> results http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/711983
[02:51] <LjL> kuzmaster: which means you should find out your real DNS (i.e. the one of your ISP), and set it in your KDE network settings (which hopefully work better for you than for me)
[02:51] <LjL> kuzmaster: yes, it's working
[02:51] <kuzmaster> so ring my isp and get my dns
[02:51] <geneo91> kuzmaster:  i think mirrors are being updated
[02:51] <kuzmaster> yeah, well i had this problem last night
[02:52] <LjL> kuzmaster: you can probably find them on their site
[02:52] <kuzmaster> ill ring anyway, and put that in my network settings
[02:52] <kuzmaster> right?
[02:52] <LjL> yes
[02:52] <kuzmaster> ok
[02:52] <kuzmaster> ill ring now
[02:54] <LjL> geneo91: i find it very unlikely that the mirrors were being updated, it's like the 10th time i'm apt-get updating in 10 minutes and security.ubuntu.com always worked. also, his problem with sites resolving to <IP_ADDRESS> clearly shows there is a problem with his DNS server
[02:55] <kuzmaster> i hate being put on hold
[02:56] <kuzmaster> i found this on the website, should this be right?
[02:56] <kuzmaster> Primary: <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:56] <kuzmaster> Secondary: <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:56] <LjL> yes
[02:56] <kuzmaster> k
[02:57] <kuzmaster> now, how do i get into the kde network settings?
[02:57] <LjL> you only need the primary, but putting the secondary in too will certainly do no harm (and will be useful if/when the primary goes down)
[02:57] <CaBlGuY> !streamtuner
[02:57] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[02:57] <LjL> K / System Settings / Network Settings / Administrator mode / Domain Name System
[02:58] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmmm  we got anything like streamtuner we can use?
[02:58] <LjL> !info streamtuner
[02:58] <ubotu> streamtuner: (A GUI audio stream directory browser), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 0.99.99-5ubuntu6 (dapper), Packaged size: 581 kB, Installed size: 2064 kB
[02:58] <geneo91> CaBlGuY:  xmms has some plugins
[02:58] <CaBlGuY> ok, so it's available ....
[02:59] <LjL> yes it is
[02:59] <CaBlGuY> so, where do I get iut...
[02:59] <kuzmaster> do i put them into domain name servers-> add
[02:59] <LjL> kuzmaster: exactly
[02:59] <kuzmaster> and remove the one that currently in there
[02:59] <kuzmaster> thats <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:59] <kuzmaster> that the one that currently in there
[02:59] <LjL> kuzmaster: yes. however, i fear that <IP_ADDRESS> will be put back automatically by DHCP :\
[02:59] <kuzmaster> ok
[03:00] <LjL> LeeJunFan: what do you think about what i said above?
[03:00] <kuzmaster> add the primary first
[03:00] <geneo91> set it to manual
[03:00] <kuzmaster> then the secodary
[03:00] <geneo91> yes
[03:00] <kuzmaster> k
[03:00] <LjL> kuzmaster: i'm not sure. just make sure the primary shows up first
[03:01] <LjL> geneo91: that'll work if his router doesn't change the IP it assigns. do DSL routers do that usually?
[03:01] <kuzmaster> then do i hit apply
[03:01] <kuzmaster> then close?
[03:01] <LjL> kuzmaster: yes, or just close
[03:01] <kuzmaster> k
[03:01] <kuzmaster> i dont need to re-start
[03:01] <geneo91> no not if noone logs in before him
[03:01] <_susana> hola
[03:01] <kuzmaster> and then do sudo apt-get update?
[03:02] <LjL> kuzmaster: you don't need to, but you'll probably want to, in order to see if the settings stay. or perhaps just do like geneo91 said and disable DHCP
[03:02] <LjL> kuzmaster: yeah, an apt-get update will show that the new DNS servers are working
[03:02] <kuzmaster> ok ill re-start
[03:02] <kuzmaster> ok
[03:02] <kuzmaster> ill do that first
[03:03] <kuzmaster> they all worked
[03:03] <kuzmaster> now ill try adept
[03:03] <CaBlGuY> Grrrrr   does Kpackage got it's own root pass or somethin???
[03:03] <rlj> has anyone experience with the ati-ixp alsa driver?
[03:03] <CaBlGuY> I'm tryin to install streamtuner through it and my root pass aint workin...
[03:03] <LjL> kuzmaster: ok, now it's your take: either reboot and see, and then go through this again if the settings are reset, or disable DHCP right now
[03:04] <LjL> CaBlGuY: you have a root password?
[03:04] <CaBlGuY> of course silly
[03:04] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[03:04] <LjL> uh... you usually *don't* have one in ubuntu
[03:04] <LjL> !root
[03:04] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:04] <CaBlGuY> well  I do..
[03:04] <geneo91> LjL:  sudo passwd root
[03:04] <CaBlGuY> maybe I'm paranoid I dunno but I like to have a pass for root..
[03:04] <LjL> well then i'm not surprised that you have trouble with adept (and whatnot) ;-)
[03:04] <kuzmaster> is the firefox in adept recomended?
[03:05] <LjL> geneo91: i know. except it's asking for trouble.
[03:05] <CaBlGuY> I know my root pass..  it's jujst not workin in Kpackage..
[03:05] <LjL> kuzmaster: of course
[03:05] <CaBlGuY> :/
[03:05] <geneo91> na i've used it since warty
[03:05] <kuzmaster> ok
[03:05] <_susana> alguien espaol
[03:05] <kuzmaster> ill fetch update first tho
[03:05] <LjL> geneo91: used to break KControl applets in Breezy, among other things
[03:05] <LjL> !es
[03:05] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:05] <CaBlGuY> LjL:  I don't have any problems with adept..  or synaptic or anything else...
[03:06] <CaBlGuY> Kpackage is the only one givvin me crap..
[03:06] <LjL> CaBlGuY: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdeadmin/+bug/47741
[03:06] <geneo91> _susana: #kubuntu-es
[03:07] <kuzmaster> yay! its working
[03:07] <kuzmaster> im so happy
[03:07] <LjL> kuzmaster: you haven't rebooted yet, hold the happiness
[03:07] <LjL> :)
[03:07] <_susana> hola geneo91
[03:07] <kuzmaster> il ive just have to try and log into google talk
[03:08] <geneo91> kuzmaster:  just make sure you turn offf dhcp
[03:08] <kuzmaster> hmmmm
[03:08] <kuzmaster> if thats happens, will i have to assign ip addresses myself?
[03:08] <geneo91> LjL:  your case has to do with live cd i think
[03:09] <LjL> kuzmaster: no, you just need to use your current IP address
[03:09] <kuzmaster> ok
[03:09] <kuzmaster> how do i turn dhcp off
[03:09] <geneo91> just click manual
[03:09] <kuzmaster> ok
[03:09] <CaBlGuY> whoo hoo...  :)
[03:09] <kuzmaster> in network settings?
[03:09] <LjL> kuzmaster: it's easy. just go into the first tab ("Network interfaces") of the settings, Administrator mode, Configure Interface, Manual, type your current IP address
[03:10] <kuzmaster> ok
[03:10] <kuzmaster> ill do that after firefox installs
[03:10] <kuzmaster> nearly
[03:10] <rlj> is there a way to query an alsa driver for its output capabilities (for example what sampling frequencies it can output in and stuff like that)?
[03:10] <LjL> kuzmaster: no harm in doing it right now. nothing will happen untill you apply the new settings
[03:10] <kuzmaster> well its done now anyway
[03:10] <kuzmaster> now to dhcp
[03:11] <CaBlGuY> Yeaaa!!!   I got it..   :)
[03:11] <CaBlGuY> thanks LjL   ;)
[03:12] <LjL> kuzmaster: as an aside -- you asked whether "the firefox that's in adept" is ok to use. please keep in mind that the packages that are in the repositories are the *first thing* you should always try. only ever use "foreign" packages if you're absolutely sure they aren't in the repositories, or if you have an absolute necessity to get a different version
[03:12] <kuzmaster> for changing it to manual, i want to change ra0 (enabled wireless network device)?
[03:12] <kuzmaster> ok
[03:12] <LjL> kuzmaster: do you have other devices besides that one?
[03:12] <CaBlGuY> Very nice...  now I have my radio readily available..   ;)
[03:12] <kuzmaster> yeah
[03:12] <LjL> (i guess the answer is "yes" anyway)
[03:12] <kuzmaster> an ethanat, that i dont use
[03:12] <LjL> so it'll be ra0
[03:13] <kuzmaster> cos im to far away from the router
[03:13] <LjL> kuzmaster: do you have any other computers connected to that router?
[03:13] <kuzmaster> and i i clik the checkbox, activate when computer starts?
[03:13] <kuzmaster> yes i do
[03:13] <LjL> kuzmaster: yes
[03:13] <kuzmaster> ok
[03:13] <LjL> kuzmaster: hmm that could be a problem i suppose
[03:13] <LjL> geneo91: that could be a problem i suppose?
[03:13] <kuzmaster> hmmmmmph
[03:14] <kuzmaster> that computers uses windows media center
[03:14] <geneo91> LjL: live cd uses dhcp when booting up
[03:14] <LjL> geneo91: uh?
[03:14] <kuzmaster> ill re-start now
[03:14] <kuzmaster> cya, and brb, hopefully
[03:15] <LjL> geneo91: i'm asking whether the fact that other computers are connected to his routers can be a problem - what you said above sounded like it could
[03:15] <geneo91> well no if noone starts up before he reboots
[03:16] <geneo91> or it will warn him during boot
[03:16] <LjL> okay... but i guess he can't *always* be sure that he starts his computer before the other one is started ;)
[03:16] <LjL> that's assuming the other computer is used by somebody else in any case
[03:17] <geneo91> well he can change it anytime he needs to
[03:17] <LjL> hmm hopefully there has to be a less irritating solution
[03:17] <geneo91> i have 5 on my router
[03:17] <LjL> i'd be quite upset if i had to change my IP just about every time i logged in
[03:18] <LjL> (just like i'm a bit upset now that I have to set my DNS every time I log in.... but hopefully that one's solved now ;)
[03:18] <geneo91> well i dont shut this off to offten
[03:18] <LjL> kuzmaster: what's your DNS set to?
[03:18] <kuzmaster> ill check
[03:19] <kuzmaster> do i go into the network settings for that?
[03:19] <LjL> kuzmaster: neway, we were saying that now, if the other computer gets turned on before yours, the IP address for yours might change
[03:19] <LjL> kuzmaster: yeah, or just cat /etc/resolv.conf
[03:19] <kuzmaster> my computeris usually on first
[03:19] <LjL> kuzmaster: in that case you'd hopefully have no problems
[03:20] <geneo91> kuzmaster:  you can give yourself an addy thats going to be solid like <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:20] <kuzmaster> the dns are the same as i entered
[03:20] <LjL> good
[03:20] <kuzmaster> i always use <IP_ADDRESS> for me
[03:21] <kuzmaster> and <IP_ADDRESS> for the media center
[03:21] <LjL> does that need to be set in the router's settings?
[03:21] <kuzmaster> dont no
[03:21] <geneo91> no
[03:21] <kuzmaster> its working for me anywat
[03:21] <kuzmaster> dont no about the other computer now
[03:21] <geneo91> router gives you range is all
[03:21] <kuzmaster> and i dont care for now
[03:22] <kuzmaster> and adept has heaps of packages
[03:22] <kuzmaster> it looks like its working
[03:22] <LjL> kuzmaster: should be about 17000
[03:22] <LjL> also, you might want to add the Multiverse repository
[03:23] <kuzmaster> ive got 18312 packages available
[03:23] <LjL> Multiverse contains packages that are free but which depend on (or often use) non-free packages, as well as some packages that are non-free themselves
[03:23] <kuzmaster> and i think i might have that
[03:23] <susana_> hola vega-
[03:23] <LjL> i have 18810
[03:23] <kuzmaster> dont no
[03:23] <LjL> !multiverse
[03:23] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[03:24] <kuzmaster> thats what i want
[03:24] <kuzmaster> thanx
[03:24] <LjL> shortcut: just add "multiverse" after every "universe" in your sources.list
[03:24] <kuzmaster> but before i do that ill go
[03:24] <kuzmaster> !easysource
[03:24] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:24] <kuzmaster> what the differnce between ad/remove progams and adept?
[03:24] <LjL> well i'll reboot too, and see if my DNS is finally staying
[03:25] <LjL> kuzmaster: add/remove programs is simpler and offers a smaller selection of packages
[03:25] <kuzmaster> ok
[03:25] <LjL> though i think add/remove actually *is* adept, just run with some special parameters (not sure tho)
[03:25] <LjL> myself, i use aptitude
[03:26] <LjL> it's command-line only, but it's more convenient
[03:26] <CaBlGuY> ok, im out for a bit..  l8r peeps..  o/
[03:27] <kuzmaster> now i have to wait for the updater to finish
[03:29] <kuzmaster> is it possible to change the icon for the firefox windows
[03:29] <kuzmaster> to the icon that i has in windows and mac?
[03:29] <kuzmaster> it has**
[03:29] <geneo91> kuzmaster:  its possible but lots of work
[03:30] <kuzmaster> hmmmmph
[03:30] <kuzmaster> is there a easy way?
[03:30] <geneo91> no
[03:30] <kuzmaster> *grunts
[03:30] <geneo91> i'd be very hard to explian here
[03:31] <kuzmaster> k, never mind then
[03:31] <kuzmaster> what is skim?
[03:31] <kuzmaster> input method platform?
[03:31] <kuzmaster> it under utilities
[03:31] <CaptainMorgan> how do I enable my scroll button on my trackpad? worked in Breezy but I forgot to back up that file.... xsources? xlist?
[03:32] <kuzmaster> is imbrandon here?
[03:32] <kuzmaster> or iambrandon
[03:33] <geneo91> yes
[03:33] <kuzmaster> k
[03:33] <kuzmaster> cos i want his royal kde theme
[03:33] <imbrandon> CaptainMorgan, /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[03:33] <kuzmaster> he made one
[03:34] <kuzmaster> imbrandon, can you please give me the link to your royall theme
[03:34] <kuzmaster> for kde
[03:34] <imbrandon> kuzmaster, http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/theme/royale/
[03:34] <kuzmaster> thnaks
[03:34] <imbrandon> np
[03:35] <imbrandon> and to cahnge the firefox icon just call your new icon firefox.png and put it in /usr/share/pixmaps
[03:36] <kuzmaster> ok
[03:36] <kuzmaster> i can change the icon to display in the applications menu and quick launch
[03:36] <imbrandon> it will change it everywhere
[03:36] <imbrandon> if yo do that
[03:36] <kuzmaster> ok
[03:36] <CaptainMorgan> imbrandon thanks
[03:37] <imbrandon> CaptainMorgan, np
[03:38] <kuzmaster> imbrandon, after ive downloaded those 2 .deb files, what do i do with them
[03:38] <imbrandon> folow what it says on my howto ;)
[03:39] <imbrandon> brb
[03:39] <kuzmaster> *grunts* ok
[03:39] <Hawkwind> !root
[03:39] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:40] <Kr> how can i boot straight to the console without starting X other then using recovery mode?
[03:40] <kuzmaster> the updates are taking for ever
[03:40] <kuzmaster> i think you need to set runlevel to somthing lower then it currently is
[03:41] <kuzmaster> cant remember
[03:41] <imbrandon> Kr, all the time or just one time ?
[03:41] <wonbond> how can i boot straight to the console without starting X other then using recovery mode?
[03:41] <kuzmaster> i had the reverse problem as you, it would start in console, and wouldnt go into x
[03:41] <wonbond> imbrandon: just one time
[03:42] <imbrandon> winbond just kill x from a teminal then "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[03:42] <geneo91> wonbond:  try ctrl alt f1
[03:42] <wonbond> geneo91: from whaere?
[03:42] <wonbond> geneo91: where?
[03:42] <imbrandon> anywhere
[03:43] <imbrandon> ctl + alt + f1
[03:43] <geneo91> from the keyboard
[03:43] <wonbond> geneo91: i mean during bootup
[03:43] <imbrandon> wonbond, after x starts kill it via kdm stop OR edit your runtimes but i wouldent reomend doing that
[03:43] <wonbond> geneo91: will this work during bootup?
[03:44] <geneo91> no
[03:44] <imbrandon> wonbond, why do you not want x to start just one time ?
[03:44] <wonbond> geneo91: because i have x problem , and when it boots it crashes
[03:44] <geneo91> prooly want to do something stupid
[03:44] <wonbond> i need to get to console before x loads
[03:44] <kuzmaster> brb
[03:44] <imbrandon> wonbond, boot into single user mode
[03:44] <imbrandon> and fix x then reboot
[03:44] <imbrandon> thats what its for
[03:45] <wonbond> imbrandon: i didnt see any single user modes ...??
[03:45] <imbrandon> wonbond, recovery mode AKA single user mode
[03:45] <geneo91> hit space bar at grub start
[03:46] <wonbond> imbrandon: recovery mode boots as root, and i need to be as a user not a root
[03:46] <imbrandon> wonbond,  why ?
[03:46] <imbrandon> wonbond, i'm tryiong to help you here , i think your going about this wrong, tell me your problem ....
[03:47] <geneo91> thats not going to fix xserver as user
[03:47] <wonbond> because when i install stuff as root , i cant access it later as a user , and i dont know which permitions to change to make it work
[03:47] <imbrandon> wonbond, what are you installing
[03:47] <geneo91> are u using kubuntu
[03:48] <wonbond> imbrandon: the fglrx driver , i installed it as root and i cant login to kde as user , i just lose vide signal when trying to log in
[03:48] <imbrandon> wonbond, that is something wrong with the driver then becouse you always have to set it up as root
[03:49] <imbrandon> what do you mean "loose signal" ?
[03:49] <geneo91> wonbond: the you need to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:49] <imbrandon> yea
[03:49] <wonbond> imbrandon: yes , it works when i set it up as sudo , but not from root
[03:49] <imbrandon> wonbond, sudo and root are the same thing
[03:50] <wonbond> geneo91: did that about 10 times already
[03:50] <imbrandon> wonbond, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:50] <imbrandon> wonbond, then obviously a setting you are choosing is wrong
[03:50] <geneo91> maybe your card aint supported
[03:50] <imbrandon> if it dosent work
[03:50] <imbrandon> did you restrt x after each time you did that ?
[03:51] <wonbond> every time i restart xserver i lose video signal
[03:51] <wonbond> but when startx as root it works fine
[03:51] <imbrandon> then you are chooseing a wrong setting in reconfigure, OR your vid card is not supported by that driver
[03:52] <EvilIdler> You wouldn't happen to be trying glx oof some sort, wonbond ?
[03:52] <wonbond> its x850 , its supported , and the setup of the xserver is too simple to mess up
[03:52] <geneo91> wonbond:  i doubt your using ubuntu then
[03:52] <imbrandon> wonbond, did you enable the root account or somethnig ?
[03:52] <EvilIdler> "X: Enough rope."
[03:52] <wonbond> im using kubuntu 64bit,
[03:53] <imbrandon> wonbond, did you enable the root account or somethnig ?
[03:53] <wonbond> im using standard fglrx from apt-get
[03:53] <wonbond> no i boot as root in the recovery mode
[03:53] <RawSewage> Am I doing something wrong.  I've been applying the spam filter for days now, and it hasnt filtered one spam
[03:53] <imbrandon> that isnt the same config
[03:54] <imbrandon> RawSewage, with what ?
[03:54] <RawSewage> Bogofilter / Kontact mail
[03:54] <geneo91> RawSewage:  have you marked them as spam
[03:54] <imbrandon> it takes time to learn
[03:54] <RawSewage> I right click them, apply filter, as Spam
[03:54] <RawSewage> Right?
[03:54] <EvilIdler> Skynet wasn't build in a day, you know ;)
[03:54] <imbrandon> no
[03:54] <imbrandon> RawSewage, mark them as spam ( button at top )
[03:54] <imbrandon> then apply filter
[03:55] <wonbond> so which config are you talking about?
[03:55] <RawSewage> If you right click it, it says Apply Filter -> Filter classify as spam
[03:55] <imbrandon> ahh yes
[03:55] <RawSewage> same thing?
[03:55] <imbrandon> RawSewage, it takes days to learn
[03:55] <imbrandon> yes
[03:55] <RawSewage> ok
[03:56] <EvilIdler> I have to say Thunderbird's junk filter seems faster
[03:56] <EvilIdler> A bit overzealous, but still
[03:57] <RawSewage> Im not impatient, I just wanted to know if it was going to work
[03:57] <RawSewage> or if I was wasting my time
[03:57] <RawSewage> I get hundreds of spam a day
[03:57] <wonbond> geneo91:
[03:57] <wonbond> so , which configs
[03:57] <geneo91> i dont use ati junk
[03:58] <wonbond> imbrandon:
[03:58] <geneo91> sorry dont know enough about them never had one
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> wonbond: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[03:59] <wonbond> CheeseBurgerMan: i have that printed out , its what i used
[03:59] <Healot> ATi cards are no junk man...
[03:59] <geneo91> ha
[04:00] <CheeseBurgerMan> wonbond: Oh. It worked for me.
[04:00] <wonbond> kubunu64bit with x850?
[04:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> No, Ive got the x200m
[04:02] <wonbond> CheeseBurgerMan: it worked for me too on 32bit , on 64 it works too , but only for the root account
[04:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> Weird, Sound like it may be a permissions problem, although what permissions to change I'm not quite sure.
[04:05] <geneo91> wonbond:  maybe go yo main channel and ask
[04:05] <wonbond> any other video configs i can configure besides xorg.cong?
[04:05] <wonbond> f
[04:05] <Healot> for Xorg - xorg.conf the only file you work with
[04:06] <wonbond> im just gonna reinstall, but i need to figure out how to get to command before the x loads as a user not as root
[04:06] <RawSewage> Why wont my screensaver start after the interval of inactivity
[04:07] <RawSewage> something got broke
[04:07] <RawSewage> !screensaver
[04:07] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RawSewage
[04:07] <geneo91> wonbond:  just change to xorg driver
[04:08] <EvilIdler> wonbond: While installing the fglrx driver, were there any questions about OpenGL ICD permissions?
[04:08] <wonbond> the fglrx is the only driver that will work with this card
[04:08] <wonbond> the default kubuntu driver doesnt support my card
[04:08] <geneo91> what did u use before you installed the bad one
[04:08] <wonbond> nothing , thats the thing
[04:09] <geneo91> did you update kernel
[04:09] <wonbond> it didnt work before that either
[04:09] <wonbond> EvilIdler: no i didnt see anything about permissions
[04:09] <geneo91> there was a round of updates that just came around
[04:10] <wonbond> yup , i enabled all the default repos and did apt-get update and upgrade
[04:11] <geneo91> well get the driver from ati and use that then
[04:11] <wonbond> then id have to recompile the kernel ,
[04:12] <kuzmaster> back
[04:12] <wonbond> and i dont think i can do that yet
[04:12] <geneo91> no just need kernel-source
[04:12] <EvilIdler> wonbond: Do you have a pastebin link of your xorg.conf?
[04:12] <geneo91> it only does that module
[04:13] <wonbond> ill make it , in a sec
[04:15] <kuzmaster> has anyone here used google talk with wine before?
[04:15] <EvilIdler> Isn't Google Talk just Jabber?
[04:15] <kuzmaster> !easysource
[04:15] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:15] <kuzmaster> yeah
[04:15] <wonbond> ok , here is the xorg conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15790
[04:15] <kuzmaster> but i want google talk cos of the voip
[04:15] <geneo91> you can use jabber in gaim or kopete
[04:16] <kuzmaster> yeah but i want google talk cos of the voip
[04:16] <EvilIdler> wonbond: I don't see a module "dri" in your "Files" section
[04:17] <EvilIdler> I know every working ATI config I've seen uses it
[04:17] <EvilIdler> Section "DRI" won't apply unless you add that module
[04:17] <wonbond> EvilIdler:i think i have one with that in it , let me check , but it didnt work either
[04:18] <kuzmaster> what is bazzar?
[04:18] <excess> hey i got a question, i cant install firefox for some reason after it like crashed
[04:18] <excess> could someone msg me ill send you the terminal error and shit
[04:18] <excess> :(
[04:19] <wonbond> EvilIdler: yes i have it in my last backup , load "dri"   , that one didnt work either
[04:20] <EvilIdler> wonbond: And mode 0666 in the DRI section?
[04:20] <kuzmaster> is there a gui version of wine?
[04:21] <geneo91> xwine
[04:21] <kuzmaster> thanx
[04:21] <kuzmaster> do i need to install wine beforehand?
[04:21] <geneo91> no
[04:21] <kuzmaster> k
[04:21] <kuzmaster> so only install xwine?
[04:21] <wonbond> EvilIdler: ok there is no link to dri in the files section just load module dri  , and the 0666 is at the end of the file only
[04:22] <Snake> UGH
[04:22] <excess> `someone help? i cant get firefox working:
[04:22] <excess> `Replaced by files in installed package libnss3 ...
[04:22] <excess> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu6.06_i386.deb (--unpack):
[04:22] <excess>  unable to create `./usr/lib/firefox/libgfxpsshar.so': No such file or directory
[04:22] <Snake> why cant I get off the stupid mesa drivers
[04:23] <wonbond> EvilIdler: ok, so there is load dri module and 0666 mode in the dri section , thats all about dri , that config didnt work
[04:23] <EvilIdler> wonbond: Everything seems alright in the xorg.conf, then :/
[04:24] <DaSkreech> imbrandon: Ping
[04:24] <EvilIdler> wonbond: That would be the recommended config to actually allow 3D, but 2D should still work regardless of that
[04:25] <wonbond> EvilIdler: what happens is i enter the password , it starts to load then it loads something and kicks me back out to password , if i try to log in the second time i lose the video output
[04:25] <geneo91> wonbond:  does that card have more than one output
[04:26] <kuzmaster> after doing apt-get update after getting a source.list from source-o-matic, i got this error
[04:26] <kuzmaster> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/712105
[04:26] <kuzmaster> anyhelp?
[04:26] <EvilIdler> wonbond: I had similar problems once, but with NVidia. Older kernels were my only options then :/
[04:26] <kuzmaster> ill paste my sources.list as well
[04:26] <wonbond> geneo91: yes , vga and digital , im using digital
[04:27] <kuzmaster> heres my sources.list http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/712108
[04:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> kuzmaster: Try running 'wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg && sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[04:27] <kuzmaster> so put 'wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg && sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg' into konsole
[04:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah.
[04:28] <kuzmaster> k
[04:28] <wonbond> EvilIdler: do you know how to uninstall and purge fglrx?
[04:28] <imbrandon> DaSkreech, pong
[04:28] <DaSkreech> imbrandon: Just checkking the royal theme that you posted earlier
[04:28] <DaSkreech> Still up?
[04:29] <geneo91> wonbond:  apt-get remove --purge package name
[04:29] <imbrandon> DaSkreech, yea
[04:29] <DaSkreech> I assum you spelt it wrong then? :-)
[04:30] <wonbond> geneo91: ty
[04:30] <DaSkreech> http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/theme/royale/
[04:30] <kuzmaster> are the sources that there missing needed?
[04:30] <DaSkreech> buntudot.org?
[04:30] <imbrandon> DaSkreech, comes up fine for me
[04:30] <kuzmaster> are the sources that are missing needed**
[04:31] <DaSkreech> Hmm strange
[04:31] <DaSkreech> I'll try again in a few minutes
[04:31] <imbrandon> DaSkreech, buntudot.org is a domain i run
[04:31] <imbrandon> ;)
[04:32] <DaSkreech> Aaaagh!!
[04:33] <kuzmaster> i cant find xwine in adept
[04:33] <kuzmaster> help?
[04:33] <DaSkreech> What is this burning sensation of the eyes!??!
[04:33] <wonbond> thanks all , im gonna keep messing with it , the newb style
[04:33] <kuzmaster> where is xwine?
[04:33] <imbrandon> kuzmaster, there probbly isnt a package named xwine , might try winex or wine
[04:34] <kuzmaster> ok
[04:36] <Healot> !info winex
[04:38] <_redondos> hola
[04:38] <_redondos> hi
[04:38] <geneo91> your break is over ubotu
[04:39] <_redondos> has anyone made work wine on Kubuntu ?
[04:40] <RawSewage> ?
[04:40] <RawSewage> Wine works on Kubuntu
[04:40] <_redondos> yes...
[04:40] <_redondos> I installed it
[04:41] <_redondos> but...
[04:41] <geneo91> wine has nothing to do with wm
[04:41] <kuzmaster> can somone give me a link for the settings for google talk for kopete?
[04:41] <_redondos> it works well... on common programs
[04:41] <_redondos> but I can't play Age Conquerors
[04:41] <geneo91> you login as your gmail account in jabber
[04:42] <_redondos> with isn't a complex application for wine...
[04:42] <kuzmaster> wats the server name?
[04:43] <_redondos> on Age conquerors it ask me for the cd...
[04:43] <geneo91> kuzmaster:  that i dont remember
[04:43] <kuzmaster> k
[04:43] <geneo91> it tell you on google
[04:44] <_redondos> ok, thanks
[04:44] <_redondos> bye
[04:47] <geneo91> server gmail.com
[04:49] <KuLover> my toolbar crashed can dissapeard, how can i open it again?
[04:49] <KuLover> and*
[04:49] <RawSewage> I think this update removed all my Konqueror shortcuts
[04:49] <RawSewage> for Search
[04:50] <geneo91> kuzmaster:  it says skype might work
[04:51] <RandomDude15> is it an FX5200 legacy or not legacy?
[04:51] <RandomDude15> *is an FX5200
[04:52] <geneo91> agp or pci
[04:52] <KuLover> My toolbar has dissapeard. What can I do to get it back?
[04:52] <RandomDude15> AGP
[04:52] <geneo91> not legacy
[04:52] <RawSewage> What toolbar
[04:52] <KuLover> The Main KDE one.
[04:52] <RandomDude15> how do I get nvidia drivers running in kubuntu 6.06?
[04:53] <RawSewage> Try adding a new applet to it
[04:53] <RawSewage> Everything in the toolbar is an applet
[04:53] <kuzmaster> geneo91, what, skype?
[04:53] <KuLover> How do I do that? Its dissapeared..
[04:53] <kuzmaster> geneo91, could skype and google talk work with wine?
[04:53] <geneo91> nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:53] <CaptainMorgan>  possible to get forward/backward buttons to work on a thinkpad?
[04:53] <CaptainMorgan> for browsing...
[04:53] <imbrandon> skype has a native linux version and any jabber client will work with gtalk
[04:54] <DaSkreech> KuLover: Which one? the File menu one?
[04:54] <geneo91> kuzmaster:  skype sould work with linux by itself
[04:54] <KuLover> DaSkreech, Which toolbar? The Main KDE one.
[04:54] <DaSkreech> The KDE panel?
[04:54] <kuzmaster> ohhhh
[04:54] <DaSkreech> you mean the kicker?
[04:54] <kuzmaster> thanx
[04:55] <kuzmaster> ill look into it
[04:55] <KuLover> Yes, DaSkreech
[04:55] <kuzmaster> but google talk would be best
[04:55] <geneo91> should be in the repos
[04:55] <geneo91> kuzmaster:  its comming
[04:55] <DaSkreech> KuLover: What happened?
[04:56] <DaSkreech> Packed up the suitcase andleft?
[04:56] <KuLover> Its dissapeard.
[04:56] <KuLover> Got it back!, I just Alt-F2ed kicker
[04:56] <kuzmaster> wats comming?
[04:57] <geneo91> google talk for linux
[04:57] <RandomDude15> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197542
[04:57] <kuzmaster> ohhhh, thanx
[04:57] <RandomDude15> my xorg.conf file is posted there
[04:57] <geneo91> the guy that did gaim is working on it
[04:58] <simlu> hi!
[04:58] <simlu> I need help with my localhost
[04:59] <geneo91> gn all
[04:59] <simlu> my localhost (<IP_ADDRESS>) doesn't seem to work
[05:00] <simlu> does anybody can help me with that?
[05:01] <DaSkreech> Night
[05:01] <kuzmaster> how do i open a .exe with wine?
[05:02] <egon_spengler> simlu: What exactly do you mean, your localhost "doesn't work?"
[05:02] <kuzmaster> is there a way without using konsole?
[05:02] <simlu> egon - well if I ping localhost, I get no reply
[05:02] <kuzmaster> is there?
[05:03] <RandomDude15> I need help
[05:03] <RandomDude15> with my game performance
[05:03] <gobbe> kuzmaster: why not use konsole?
[05:04] <egon_spengler> What do you have listed in /etc/hosts for localhost?
[05:04] <egon_spengler> simlu:
[05:04] <kuzmaster> cos its easier without it
[05:04] <kuzmaster> but anyway, i figured out how without kobsole
[05:04] <kuzmaster> konsole**
[05:04] <gobbe> kuzmaster, working with the text-based consoles are the basic stuff that every linux-users should know
[05:05] <kuzmaster> now im trying to log into google talk via wine
[05:05] <kuzmaster> its not working
[05:05] <gobbe> isn't kopete supporting googletalk?
[05:05] <kuzmaster> dont no
[05:05] <simlu> egon - <IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost ubuntu
[05:05] <kuzmaster> it isnt in the list of types of accounts
[05:06] <egon_spengler> simlu: Do you have a firewall of some sort enabled?
[05:06] <simlu> egon - no I don't think so
[05:09] <gobbe> kuzmaster, didn't you try to google for googletalk support at linux? i found several pages showing way to use kopeta with googletalk
[05:09] <egon_spengler> simlu: So, you have no response or error message when command ping <IP_ADDRESS>, ping ubuntu, or ping localhost is given in console?
[05:09] <simlu> egon - no response, no error message
[05:10] <egon_spengler> simlu: To all three variations on localhost? Ping by ip, ping by localhost and ping by hostname?
[05:10] <simlu> egon - yes, by ip it works
[05:10] <CaptainMorgan> I used xev to make sure buttons are actually recognized and they're responding to xev.... .
[05:10] <simlu> egon - but not localhost nor hostname
[05:11] <egon_spengler> simlu: Then sounds like /etc/resolv.conf is not setup properly
[05:11] <simlu> egon - i'm using a wireless card, I don't know if it can help
[05:11] <gobbe> egon_spengler, resolv.conf doesn't affect if you have localhost at hosts
[05:12] <RawSewage> Why did all my Konqueror shortcuts disappear
[05:12] <RawSewage> for Search
[05:12] <gobbe> simlu, is ping to <IP_ADDRESS> working or is just a 'real' ip working?
[05:12] <RawSewage> And it wont let me make new ones anymore
[05:12] <RawSewage> This happened after the update
[05:12] <Err1> Yay! I am in the room!
[05:12] <simlu> gobbe - just a real ip works
[05:13] <gobbe> simlu, do you have interface 'lo'?
[05:13] <Err1> So now that I'm here, does anyone wanna tell me why I can't connect to my wireless network when I boot into kubuntu dapper?
[05:13] <simlu> gobbe - yes, if I do ifconfig I can see it
[05:13] <gobbe> Err1, well well...can you connect to it after booting?
[05:13] <gobbe> simlu, and it has ip <IP_ADDRESS>?
[05:13] <imbrandon> Err1 if you gave more details someone might be able to
[05:14] <simlu> gobbe - no
[05:14] <gobbe> simlu, wellwell..that might be the reason :)
[05:14] <RawSewage> Why cant I add new Konqueror Search
[05:14] <simlu> gobbe - sit0 has <IP_ADDRESS> though
[05:14] <gobbe> ok
[05:14] <arb> stupid question, ive downloaded my first .deb file, ive tried a bunch of arguments, but im not sure what im missing. Trying to install an ubuntu version of jahshaka, and it came as a .deb file. worked out i gotta do something with the dpkg-deb command, just not sure how
[05:14] <gobbe> then it should not be the reason
[05:14] <RawSewage> I make a new one, enter the URL, click APPLY, then I come back, and the URL has disappeared
[05:14] <gobbe> arb, man dpkg?-)
[05:15] <RawSewage> Where is the file that stores Konqueror Search plugins
[05:15] <Err1> That is an excellent idea. I am using a pc with a wireless pci card installed which works fine with windows, and seems to be noticed with linux as well. My wireless router is set to either 32 or 64 bit encryption I believe.
[05:16] <gobbe> Err1, and did you setup encryption things?-)
[05:16] <Err1> Yep, 64 bit with four hex keys and "open system authentication" Whatever that bit means.
[05:16] <gobbe> what is the wlan card that you are using?
[05:16] <RawSewage> nm
[05:16] <Err1> Zonenet something or other. Just a second and I'll read the box for a sn.
[05:17] <Err1> Zonenet Wireless pci lan adapter model no. ZEW1601
[05:18] <Err1> Is it possible that my linux doesn't support encryption out of the box and that I need to download a package or two to fix this?
[05:18] <simlu> gobbe - do you have any clues for me? :)
[05:20] <gobbe> simlu, hmm.. not at the moment, you could also try to configure lo to <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:20] <gobbe> simlu, and try to see if that could help you
[05:20] <simlu> gobbe - how?
[05:21] <Err1> BRB
[05:22] <gobbe> simlu, ifconfig lo <IP_ADDRESS>?
[05:24] <Err1> Back.
[05:24] <Err1> What else can I tell you guys about my setup that will help define the problem?
[05:26] <lime4x4> well i found my problem with downloading from the repositories and ending up with gzip errors..It was my smoothwall with dansgaurdian blocking certain repositories i added ubuntu.com to the exception list
[05:26] <crimsun_> excellent.
[05:26] <Err1> Nice.
[05:27] <robnyc> im on kubuntu livecd
[05:27] <Err1> Yay!
[05:27] <robnyc> and i still dont have colors on my xchat , view > tree  (Channel color status)
[05:29] <Err1> So how exactly does one normally set up a wlan on kubuntu to use 64 bit encryption
[05:29] <lime4x4> just thought i'd pass that little bit of info along..I found it weird cause some repositories would download and some wouldn't place i spent alot of time on ubuntu.com site..But then i was thinking cause this started a week ago and that's about the time i upgraded my ipcop to smoothwall
[05:30] <lime4x4> plus my ubuntu box was doing the samething
[05:30] <gobbe> Err1, are you sure that your card works with linux without using ndiswrapper&windows drivers?
[05:32] <Healot> !wifi
[05:32] <ubotu> it has been said that wifi is a term to describe wireless networks (also known as 802.11a/b/g/n). For help getting it set up in Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:34] <Arclite2> I'm having trouble with a recent installation of Kubuntu Dapper.
[05:35] <Arclite2> I installed it from the alternate CD, and it installed fine, but fails at boot. It goes through a seemingly normal boot sequence (graphical load works fine, everything 'ok').
[05:35] <Arclite2> But then it goes to another graphical load screen. kubuntu logo, progress bar. But nothing,.
[05:36] <Arclite2> If I leave it long enough, I get "restarting system log".
[05:36] <Arclite2> But nothing else.
[05:36] <Arclite2> Left it a day or two, and all I got different was "Running anac(h)ronistic task: cron".
[05:37] <dr_willis>  Left it a day or two?
[05:37] <dr_willis> wow you are patient
[05:37] <Arclite2> Yeah.
[05:37] <Arclite2> It's not a daily use machine, it's a music server.
[05:37] <Arclite2> But we have backups.
[05:39] <Arclite> I've run GNOME Hoary, and both KDE and GNOME Breezy on this machine, but this installation, nothing.
[05:39] <Healot> !usplash
[05:39] <ubotu> usplash is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[05:39] <dr_willis> id boot to the console and try startx and recheck the x logs and so forth.
[05:39] <err1> Okay, so like I was saying, anyone know what's up with my connection to my wlan
[05:39] <Hobbsee> err1: what type of card?
[05:40] <err1> zonenet pci wlan card model no. zew 1601
[05:40] <Healot> !hardware
[05:40] <ubotu> from memory, hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:41] <err1> I'm pretty sure it's not the hardware.
[05:41] <err1> But I'll check that. Thank you.
[05:42] <CaptainMorgan> anyone familiar wth keymappping?
[05:43] <err1> What does supports network install mean?
[05:43] <err1> Okay, nm.
[05:43] <err1> Duh.
[05:43] <Healot> err1: read the entry of PCi card [05:43] <Healot> 4th
[05:44] <err1> Supported in installed system, yes. Works out of the box, no.
[05:44] <Healot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo << here the one you should look for
[05:44] <err1> You guys are always so helpful. Thanks.
[05:45] <orient2000> Is there any DVD ripper for Ubuntu?
[05:45] <Healot> first
[05:45] <Healot> It is always the hardware... second the module/kernel, then the configuration :)
[05:45] <Arclite> !console
[05:45] <ubotu> Arclite: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:45] <orient2000> Sorr y, ripper for Kubuntu.
[05:45] <Arclite> Heh.
[05:46] <defrysk> !cli
[05:46] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[05:46] <Healot> !dvd
[05:46] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[05:49] <err1> Okay, that looks like it is custom made for me. Thanks again. I'm gonna reboot. Bye.
[05:50] <Snake> where are grubs files held? I need the one that holds the list of the OS
[05:50] <dr_willis>  - /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:50] <dr_willis> is where the menu is defined at.
[05:50] <Snake> dr_willis: thanks
[05:50] <dr_willis> BACKUP that file befor editing it. :P
[05:50] <dr_willis> and read the comments closely. lol
[05:50] <Snake> Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:50] <Snake> :-P
[05:51] <Snake> dr_willis: I just got to delete a section out of it
[05:51] <dr_willis> and of course rember - grub starts counting at zero
[05:55] <Healot> but Count Dracula counts backward, heh
[05:55] <kuzmaster> hello all
[05:55] <kuzmaster> im back
[05:55] <kuzmaster> how can i add another hard drive to my computer, and linux still boots
[05:56] <kuzmaster> becuase when i add another as slave, it just says 'cant mount filesystem' or somthing
[05:56] <kuzmaster> it says that it cant mount somthing
[05:56] <dr_willis> grub is 'renumbering' the drives and  also hda hdb hdc and so on may also change
[05:57] <kuzmaster> but when i take that drive out, so i only have the kubuntu drive in, it works flawlessly
[05:57] <dr_willis> if you are booting off of hda, (the first hd) you should have no problems.. if you put a new drive befor that. you may have problems
[05:57] <kuzmaster> ok then, how can i fix that
[05:57] <dr_willis> put the new hd on the secondary ide channel as a master - would be what i would do.
[05:57] <dr_willis> or as a slave there.
[05:57] <kuzmaster> but i want to add 2 others
[05:58] <dr_willis> then you need to find out what hd you are booting off of. if its not hda - you will have to do some altering of the config files.
[05:58] <kuzmaster> ok.....
[05:58] <kuzmaster> it boots into grub
[05:58] <dr_willis> also rember grub 'names' drives a little diffently then hda hdb hdc and so on.
[05:58] <kuzmaster> ok
[05:59] <dr_willis> its  like hd(0,0) and hd(1,0) and so forth.
[05:59] <kuzmaster> ok.......
[05:59] <dr_willis> and always rember grub starts counting at 0
[05:59] <kuzmaster> so the drive that im now (the only drive currently in the computer) would be hd(0,0)
[05:59] <kuzmaster> or hda(0,0)
[06:00] <dr_willis> it MAY be.. hd(0,0)
[06:00] <kuzmaster> ok
[06:00] <dr_willis> try a 'fdisk -l' and see what it is.
[06:00] <dr_willis> or 'mount' and see where / is mounted
[06:00] <Healot> nah, it's really depends on the mappings in devices.map
[06:00] <kuzmaster> so fdisk -l in konsole?
[06:00] <dr_willis> actually ' sudo fdisk -l '
[06:00] <dr_willis> :)
[06:00] <Healot> prepend "sudo" >> the boss of fake us
[06:01] <kuzmaster> yeah i did that
[06:01] <kuzmaster> ill make a map of how i want my layout to be
[06:02] <kuzmaster> this is my output of fdisk -l
[06:02] <kuzmaster> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/712195
[06:04] <Healot> why can't I see your password hehe
[06:05] <Hobbsee> Healot: heh :P
[06:07] <kuzmaster> there, ill upload it now
[06:07] <Healot> the password?
[06:08] <kuzmaster> there
[06:08] <kuzmaster> http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1612/disklayout5pw.jpg
[06:08] <kuzmaster> it diddnt turn out good quality
[06:08] <kuzmaster> hope you can understand in
[06:08] <Healot> BAD
[06:09] <kuzmaster> lol
[06:09] <kuzmaster> i mite do it again
[06:09] <Healot> mark the IDE too...
[06:09] <kuzmaster> k
[06:10] <dr_willis> having xp on the slave drive - may cause some issues.
[06:10] <junior_> hello !
[06:10] <dr_willis> unless you installed xp to that drive where it was at.
[06:10] <junior_> does anyone know where I can get Kynaptic for Kubuntu ?
[06:11] <kuzmaster> i could have xp as master, but i still want to boot straight into kubuntu
[06:11] <defrysk> junior_, try adept
[06:11] <dr_willis> kuzmaster,  you can have xp as a primary master and boot stragiht to linux from the grub menus easially enough
[06:12] <dr_willis> My Motherboard I got - i can hit F11 and pick what hd to boot . I dont even need grub on my XP drive.
[06:12] <Healot> a Phoenix BIOS?
[06:15] <junior_> I can't find Kynaptic !  :-(
[06:15] <kuzmaster> there
[06:15] <dr_willis> never heard oif it junior_
[06:16] <junior_> it is a package manager for Kubuntu. the KDE version of Synaptic.
[06:16] <kuzmaster> http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/7812/disk1rx.jpg
[06:16] <Healot> junior_: "dapper" universe repos
[06:16] <kuzmaster> is it possible to have that layout?
[06:16] <Healot> !info kynaptic
[06:17] <Child4Christ> i installed java like the wiki said but my P2P client says its not installed, any ideas?
[06:17] <CaptainMorgan> can anyone help configure special keys ?
[06:17] <kuzmaster> i cant hit F11 to, but i want it to boot straight into kubuntu
[06:17] <CaptainMorgan> having a bitch of a time....
[06:17] <kuzmaster> any help?
[06:17] <Hobbsee> !pbuilder
[06:17] <ubotu> [pbuilder]  a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[06:17] <Healot> kuzmaster: possible
[06:17] <kuzmaster> how then
[06:18] <kuzmaster> i have set it up like that
[06:18] <kuzmaster> but it says that it cant mount somthing
[06:18] <Healot> from which disk you set the BIOS to from first?
[06:18] <kuzmaster> ummmm, kubuntu i think
[06:18] <kuzmaster> it would boot into grub
[06:18] <dr_willis> kuzmaster,  just set the boot loader to default to linux.    if your lkinux drive is hda, adding other drives shouldent be messing things up. Unless you got some jumbers wrong.
[06:18] <dr_willis> I tend to just use 'cable select' setting on my hd's
[06:19] <tsume> so, how is the stability of the builds for dapper?
[06:19] <kuzmaster> i have cable select on the bottom hard drive channell
[06:19] <tsume> not bug infested like SuSE's I hope :)
[06:19] <dr_willis> kuzmaster,  you are using the terms 'boot into grub' wrong.. grub is the mbr/boot loader. if it fails to find the proper files - it will just go to the grub shell.
[06:19] <kuzmaster> well, grub starts
[06:20] <kuzmaster> but when it cant go much further
[06:20] <dr_willis> it pays to read up on how grub works and how the system boots. :)    sounds to me like you may have some drive conflict/issues
[06:20] <kuzmaster> hmmmmph
[06:20] <kuzmaster> i hate 'reading up'
[06:20] <dr_willis> then give up on linux.
[06:20] <kuzmaster> brb
[06:20] <kuzmaster> lol
[06:20] <dr_willis> and comptuers :P
[06:20] <dr_willis> and .. well.. anything thats worth learning
[06:20] <Healot> !grub
[06:20] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[06:20] <Healot> !scrub
[06:20] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Healot
[06:21] <tsume> my users don't need to read up. I'm converting them to linux and gthey get it ;)
[06:21] <dr_willis> tsume,  and they will Beg for more!
[06:21] <tsume> so, back to my question, how stable are the KDE builds for ubuntu?
[06:21] <dr_willis> tsume,  ive had no problems with them
[06:21] <tsume> dr_willis: any context menu or bug type crashes when doing nonintuitive tasks?
[06:21] <dr_willis> tsume,  none thta i have heard of
[06:22] <dr_willis> not sure about that kde4's state of useability however.
[06:22] <tsume> dr_willis: does kmail support exchange, that I haven't tried before, and don't have a kmail install handy.
[06:23] <tsume> right now I've one user on evolution, and she brought up to my attention several flaws in its deisng
[06:23] <dr_willis> i rarely use any mail other then linuxmail.org :P
[06:23] <tsume> so I'm looking at alternatives
[06:23] <tsume> evolution is too emcumbered in Novell, sadly
[06:24] <tsume> the "send options" are only for Groupwise (a novell client) ;( its sad
[06:24] <tsume> *a novell solution
[06:24] <dr_willis> Im not an email addict :P i perhaps send 2 emails a month.
[06:24] <tsume> dr_willis: hehe
[06:25] <tsume> dr_willis: are there any unofficial KDE builds for dapper?
[06:25] <Child4Christ> says theres no java in /usr/lib /usr/java an /opt so according to this, i have no java :|
[06:25] <dr_willis> My silly brother in law - FINIALLY quit mass mailing everyont in the faimly all these lame  Jokes and  spam-list things.
[06:25] <tsume> dr_willis: hehe
[06:25] <dr_willis> "Thank you in law - you just replied all and sent all our names to some spammer, note the increase in junk mail..'
[06:26] <tsume> dr_willis: I've had one of those..
[06:27] <dr_willis> I am slowly getting everyone trained..
[06:27] <dr_willis> #1 - use firefox, #2 - dont use outlook express.. #3 - better yet use 3 diffrent free email web accounts..
[06:36] <Child4Christ> wont verify on the site either :/
[06:36] <Child4Christ> is it the jre thats on the wiki?
[06:39] <Healot> th JDK...
[06:39] <james_xxx> would a P3 @ 900Mhz and 512 MB ram be able to run kubuntu well???
[06:40] <TheHighChild> james_xxx:  Yeah
[06:40] <james_xxx> sweet
[06:40] <TheHighChild> james_xxx: I was talking wtih a guy last night running it on a p3 400 mhz with 192
[06:40] <TheHighChild> james_xxx: I wouldn'
[06:40] <james_xxx> how about an AMD k6-2 @ 500Mhz with 320MB ram?
[06:40] <james_xxx> cool
[06:40] <TheHighChild> t say it will run great but it will run, there are some tweaks you might be able to make
[06:41] <dr_willis> Ive ran kubuntu/ubuntu on a pent100 laptop.
[06:41] <dr_willis> they can run. :P but its best to use a very light window manager.
[06:41] <dr_willis> and the install can take forever.
[06:41] <TheHighChild> def
[06:41] <james_xxx> but on the P3 i mentioned, it would run well, wouldn't it?
[06:41] <TheHighChild> james_xxx: Should run fine
[06:45] <CaptainMorgan> how do I load xmodmap on every startup ?
[06:46] <kuzmaster> how can i view a list of all the things running, and kill some?
[06:46] <kuzmaster> cos i cant use adept cos it says that its already running, which it isnt
[06:46] <Hobbsee> kuzmaster: top
[06:46] <kuzmaster> top?
[06:46] <Hobbsee> CaptainMorgan: symlink into ~/.kde/Autostart
[06:46] <Hobbsee> kuzmaster: type it into a console
[06:47] <kuzmaster> ohhhhh, ok
[06:47] <kuzmaster> sudo top?
[06:47] <Hawkwind> kuzmaster: No need for sudo
[06:47] <kuzmaster> ok
[06:47] <kuzmaster> i cant find anythin that realates to adept
[06:47] <Hawkwind> kuzmaster: Type: top then you can type 'u' for user and then type the user name you want to see all the processes for
[06:48] <kuzmaster> how can i kill it
[06:48] <Hawkwind> kuzmaster: ps aux | grep adept
[06:48] <kuzmaster> k, thnax
[06:48] <CaptainMorgan> Hobbsee: symlink what ? the new map?
[06:48] <Hawkwind> Then kill the PID#'s
[06:48] <Hobbsee> CaptainMorgan: is xmodmap a shell script or something?
[06:48] <Hobbsee> or a program?
[06:48] <CaptainMorgan> I believe so
[06:48] <Hawkwind> It's a program
[06:48] <Hawkwind> For keyboard mapping
[06:48] <CaptainMorgan> right
[06:48] <Hobbsee> yeah, symlink the program then
[06:49] <Hobbsee> !symlink
[06:49] <ubotu> I guess symlink is ln -s /path/to/file/or/dir /path/to/link
[06:49] <CaptainMorgan> interesting.. /Autostart has nothing in it...
[06:49] <Hobbsee> ie ls -s /usr/bin/xmodmap/or/whatever /usr/share/autostart
[06:49] <Hobbsee> if you want it for all users
[06:49] <Hawkwind> CaptainMorgan: That means nothing has been starting on startup of KDE :)
[06:50] <TheHighChild> 'ln -s'
[06:50] <kuzmaster> how can i see a list of programs that open on start-up?
[06:50] <CaptainMorgan> aye, thank you
[06:50] <CaptainMorgan> good q kuzmaster
[06:50] <CaptainMorgan> :)
[06:50] <Hawkwind> kuzmaster: Look in /usr/share/autostart or in ~/.kde/Autostart
[06:50] <kuzmaster> i think i know how to clear it, but not start it
[06:50] <kuzmaster> brb
[06:51] <RobNyc> !ati
[06:51] <Child4Christ> lol
[06:51] <ubotu> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI radeon 9200 & below supported by open-source drivers http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[06:58] <ubuntu> what the heck is the root password for the livecd?
[06:58] <FuriousGeorge> :)
[06:59] <FuriousGeorge> i need to tool around with my evms volumes and i cant figure out how to swutch to root on the livecd
[06:59] <FuriousGeorge> that is to say i dont know the password
[06:59] <CaptainMorgan> nothing I do works
[07:00] <CaptainMorgan> I made a file - .Xmodmap, with the keys found from xev which identifies the keycode. I then did xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap and linked xmodmap to /Autostart and now the program exists in Autostart like it should but he keys are still not working...
[07:03] <FuriousGeorge> this is so beat
[07:04] <FuriousGeorge> i gotta sudo everything and of course fdisk and stuff dont like that
[07:04] <FuriousGeorge> or rather they dont like when i forget to sudo
[07:04] <noiesmo> FuriousGeorge, sudo -i
[07:05] <noiesmo> FuriousGeorge, will start a root session in terminal
[07:07] <kuzmaster> im bakc
[07:07] <kuzmaster> back
[07:07] <kuzmaster> why cant i start the updater thingy
[07:08] <kuzmaster> it says that another proccess is using adept of apt-get
[07:08] <kuzmaster> but i adept isnt open
[07:08] <kuzmaster> and im not running apt-get
[07:08] <kuzmaster> gelp?
[07:08] <kuzmaster> help**?
[07:08] <kuzmaster> anyone?
[07:09] <noiesmo> kuzmaster, ps ax |grep apt
[07:09] <TheHighChild> kuzmaster: I think 'dpkg-reconfigure -a' should fix it.
[07:09] <kuzmaster> ok
[07:09] <kuzmaster> so wat do i type
[07:09] <TheHighChild> hold on
[07:09] <TheHighChild> let me make sure
[07:09] <kuzmaster> ok
[07:09] <kuzmaster> ok
[07:09] <defrysk> coffee fixes anything
[07:10] <kuzmaster> coffee?
[07:10] <defrysk> yes
[07:10] <CaptainMorgan> what dir is KDE in ?
[07:10] <kuzmaster> is that a program......
[07:10] <CaptainMorgan> or the name of the Kde dir?
[07:10] <kuzmaster> or the drink
[07:11] <noiesmo> kuzmaster, if you type ps ax | grep apt it will list the pid number of apt then you can kill it and run apt-get or adapt
[07:11] <kuzmaster> ok
[07:11] <defrysk> the drink
[07:12] <TheHighChild> kuzmaster: try this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=144963&page=2
[07:14] <kuzmaster> where is the pid number?
[07:14] <kuzmaster> heres what i got
[07:14] <kuzmaster>  4931 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep apt
[07:14] <kuzmaster> and...
[07:14] <TheHighChild> kuzmaster: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187610&highlight=adept+locked
[07:14] <kuzmaster> k
[07:14] <kuzmaster> so wheres the pid number
[07:14] <lnxKDE> ^%%$#% going to make a fresh install... I screw up my system by installing KDE, XGL and Gnome,
[07:14] <noiesmo> ok try ps ax |grep adapt if no number is returned like before then apt or adapt is not running
[07:15] <noiesmo> kuzmaster, sudo apt-get -f install
[07:15] <lnxKDE> is to bloated with GTK stuff :)
[07:15] <kuzmaster> heres what i got after that ps ax thing
[07:15] <kuzmaster>  4931 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep apt
[07:15] <defrysk> noiesmo, its adept, not adapt
[07:15] <noiesmo> oops
[07:16] <kuzmaster> so is the pid number 4931?
[07:16] <noiesmo> defrysk, i just use apt-get on commandline dont like adept or synaptic old school
[07:16] <noiesmo> kuzmaster, yes thats the pid for your ps ax command
[07:16] <noiesmo> kuzmaster, try just type ps ax see if adept is listed
[07:16] <kuzmaster> k
[07:17] <defrysk> noiesmo, old school knows the importance of case sensitivity
[07:17] <kuzmaster> ill try sudo apt-get -f install
[07:17] <kuzmaster> now
[07:17] <kuzmaster> and katapult isnt working
[07:17] <kuzmaster> ;(
[07:17] <kuzmaster> now it is
[07:18] <kuzmaster> i got this after putting in apt-get -f install
[07:18] <kuzmaster> sudo apt-get -f install
[07:18] <TalentedChimp> hmm, my desktop background fails to refresh and is totally unresponsive
[07:18] <kuzmaster> heres what i got E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:19] <noiesmo> so run sudo dpkg --configure -a or try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[07:19] <defrysk> kuzmaster, you had the same prob yesterday
[07:19] <defrysk> do you quit apt processes while installing ?
[07:19] <noiesmo> defrysk, was i not case sensitivity
[07:21] <CaptainMorgan> how do I get pid? no command found and no man entry
[07:21] <kuzmaster> no i diddnt
[07:22] <defrysk> kuzmaster, ahwell
[07:22] <kuzmaster> yesterday it would find the sources
[07:22] <noiesmo> CaptainMorgan, pid can be obtained by ps ax or using top
[07:22] <kuzmaster> thats all fixed now (incrooect dns)
[07:22] <CaptainMorgan> ps ax?
[07:22] <defrysk> kuzmaster, nm
[07:23] <noiesmo> CaptainMorgan, pid can be obtained by ps ax or using top
[07:23] <noiesmo> CaptainMorgan, type ps ax in terminal and you should see list of running process with the pid number at begining
[07:23] <CaptainMorgan> ok - by why isn't pid working?
[07:25] <TheHighChild> because it probably isn';t a competing process, the apt database is probably just locked. It happens if you quit sessions before they're finished
[07:27] <[Evil] [Ernie] > can a computer running kubuntu interact with computers running windows xp on a home network?
[07:27] <TheHighChild> [Evil] [Ernie] : Interact how?
[07:27] <[Evil] [Ernie] > well, i have a desktop running winxp which has a USB harddrive connected to it
[07:28] <[Evil] [Ernie] > this is where i store all of my data..
[07:28] <TheHighChild> [Evil] [Ernie] : You can set up Samba shares
[07:28] <[Evil] [Ernie] > my laptop has kubuntu on it now, and i just want to be able to store files on that drive from my laptop
[07:28] <[Evil] [Ernie] > excellent
[07:28] <[Evil] [Ernie] > store/retrieve, to be exact
[07:29] <noiesmo> !tell [Evil] [Ernie]  about ntfs
[07:30] <Ashex> [Evil] [Ernie] : you can also use samba to browse shared files on your Xp dekstop
[07:30] <[Evil] [Ernie] > hmm
[07:30] <[Evil] [Ernie] > "there is no write support for ntfs that is safe"
[07:30] <[Evil] [Ernie] > eek
[07:30] <[Evil] [Ernie] > hopefully i read that out of context?
[07:30] <noiesmo> blame M$ for that
[07:30] <Ashex> There are ways to
[07:30] <Hobbsee> [Evil] [Ernie] : you read that right
[07:30] <noiesmo> yes no safe write support
[07:30] <Ashex> but none of them are 100% safe
[07:31] <kuzmaster> adept seams to be working now
[07:31] <[Evil] [Ernie] > so would that mean data i am writing may be corrupt? or the entire drive would be corrupt somehow?
[07:31] <Ashex> I finally got mkv files
[07:32] <Ashex> and the audio sync problem has been fixed!
[07:32] <noiesmo> possibly both
[07:32] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ah
[07:32] <[Evil] [Ernie] > lol
[07:32] <Ashex> Too bad my audigy card failed on me though
[07:32] <[Evil] [Ernie] > sounds like a bad idea =p
[07:32] <Ashex> I ran it through the dishwasher, so it might be working properly later
[07:32] <noiesmo> you could hook usb drive to xp machine then share it and use it that way then xp is writing files not linux
[07:33] <Ashex> Yeah, that's a possiblity
[07:33] <[Evil] [Ernie] > oh, that was the method i had in mind
[07:33] <[Evil] [Ernie] > the drive will always be connected to that desktop
[07:33] <Ashex> !tell [Evil] [Ernie]  about Samba
[07:33] <[Evil] [Ernie] > so technically  when i go to write to it, im really going to be sending data to that desktop and it will write to the drive (i think)
[07:33] <[Evil] [Ernie] > thank you
[07:34] <Ashex> Yeah, pretty much
[07:34] <Ashex> just remember to set permissions on the share
[07:35] <Ashex> Anywho, Back to my anime marathon
[07:35] <Ashex> w00t, I'll never have to boot into windows again!
[07:41] <TalentedChimp> does anyone have experience of running samba in a multi-language (non-latin language + english) environment?
[07:45] <err1> Hello. I have a problem with my wireless network. My network card seems to be recognized, but I can't figure out how to connect to my network.
[07:45] <[Evil] [Ernie] > =o
[07:45] <[Evil] [Ernie] > download this..
[07:45] <TalentedChimp> i'll take that as a 'no' to my question then :-)
[07:45] <[Evil] [Ernie] > kwifimanager
[07:45] <[Evil] [Ernie] > im still trying to get samba TalentedChimp.. otherwise i would try to help =p
[07:46] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i'm still a noob though, so, meh
[07:46] <err1> I can't use wlan manager, or whatever, because it does not let me set encryption stuff.
[07:46] <[Evil] [Ernie] > hmm
[07:46] <[Evil] [Ernie] > try this one then:
[07:46] <[Evil] [Ernie] > wireless assistant!
[07:46] <[Evil] [Ernie] > should come with kubuntu
[07:47] <err1> And if I use system settings it doesn't actually start the network. Just screws around and tells me it's trying.
[07:47] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i could probably help more if i actually knew how to make my card turn on >.<
[07:47] <err1> I tried whatever is in kubuntu.
[07:47] <[Evil] [Ernie] > hmm
[07:47] <TalentedChimp> i work in korea, using english linux laptop on korean windows network
[07:48] <err1> Sorry. I'm using windows right now.
[07:48] <err1> So I can't refer to things correctly.
[07:52] <[Evil] [Ernie] > Open the Computer Menu, then click on "Network". You'll see a "windows network" icon, open it.
[07:52] <[Evil] [Ernie] > in the instructions for browsing samba shares
[07:52] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ....what computer menu?
[07:54] <TalentedChimp> are you talking to me EvilErnie?
[07:55] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i'm talking to anyone who's reading it!
[07:56] <Hobbsee> [Evil] [Ernie] : wlassistant is default with kubuntu - it comes on the cd.
[07:56] <lowtech> is there a 'network' on your menu?
[07:57] <[Evil] [Ernie] > well, what computer menu?
[07:57] <[Evil] [Ernie] > lol
[07:57] <[Evil] [Ernie] > K-menu?
[07:58] <lowtech> yeah
[07:58] <[Evil] [Ernie] > there's a Networking, under System
[07:58] <[Evil] [Ernie] > but looks nothing like what they were describing
[07:58] <lowtech> just guessing as i'm not on kubuntu right now
[07:58] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ah
[07:59] <lowtech> where are you reading that?
[07:59] <kuzmaster> !easysource
[07:59] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba
[08:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > was reading it there
[08:04] <lowtech> no System > Admin > Networking either?
[08:04] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i don't have an admin tab under system
[08:04] <lowtech> hmm, heh
[08:04] <[Evil] [Ernie] > but i do have system > networking
[08:04] <[Evil] [Ernie] > just doesnt look anything like what they were describing
[08:05] <[Evil] [Ernie] > err, wait... i did that part
[08:05] <[Evil] [Ernie] > indeed
[08:05] <lowtech> may not look the same as long as it has the same functions
[08:05] <[Evil] [Ernie] > the part where it mentions a windows icon, and a few steps later says you will see shared folders on your network
[08:06] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i can't find the dialog they're talking about there!
[08:10] <lowtech> sorry, guess i can't help now. my kubuntu box is dual boot and its busy right now in another OS
[08:11] <kuzmaster> when downloadin stuff in adept, i get this message
[08:11] <kuzmaster> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages
[08:12] <kuzmaster> how can i fix that?
[08:13] <kuzmaster> hmmmmmm? anyone?
[08:14] <lowtech> try again? maybe a busy server?
[08:14] <noiesmo> kuzmaster, you will need to know what app wants to keep packages that another app wants to replace and go from there what are you tring to install through adept
[08:14] <kuzmaster> it seems to always do tha
[08:14] <kuzmaster> that**
[08:14] <kuzmaster> and noiesmon, diddnt really anderstand that
[08:15] <noiesmo> kuzmaster, I install most apps from command line so if you try to do sudo apt-get install package then see whats being complained about
[08:15] <lowtech> adept is the gui?
[08:15] <kuzmaster> ok
[08:15] <silenced> Does anyone know why my sound would simply just stop working or where I should start looking to solve the problem?
[08:15] <noiesmo> lowtech, but poor feed back not very verbos
[08:16] <noiesmo> silenced, open terminal type lsmod |grep snd
[08:17] <lowtech> noiesmo: i'm new to kubuntu and still learning apps. i always use cli for package management no matter what distro :)
[08:17] <EvilIdler> I'm trying to do some local traffic control here, but RTNETLINK answers "No such file or directory" when I try to fiddle with tc. What kernel modules are needed?
[08:17] <silenced> noiesmo: ok it printed out a bunch of stuff
[08:17] <kuzmaster> how do i mount my cd drive at start up
[08:17] <noiesmo> silenced, i get ok now do lspci see if sound card listed matches info from previous command
[08:18] <noiesmo> silenced, can you see your sound card
[08:18] <crimsun_> eh, that's a bit long
[08:18] <crimsun_> silenced: pastebin ``asoundconf list && amixer''
[08:18] <silenced> :P, also noiesmo I keep getting an error from adept saying that something else like apt-get is using the package database as well even after a reboot
[08:18] <silenced> crimsun will do
[08:18] <silenced> noiesmo: still looking
[08:19] <silenced> noiesmo: nvidia audio controller shows up in the second command but not the first
[08:21] <noiesmo> silenced, did you recently upgrade your system or kernel
[08:21] <noiesmo> silenced, you had sound at one stage??
[08:22] <lowtech> silenced: you get no errors at all?
[08:22] <nixternal> http://www.flickr.com/photos/nixternal/sets/72157594167289193/
[08:23] <noiesmo> crimsun_, thats a handy little line to get sound info cool :)
[08:26] <tyler_> noiesmo: sorry friggin keep dropping my connection
[08:26] <crimsun_> (still waiting on the pastebin)
[08:26] <noiesmo> silenced, did you recently upgrade your system or kernel
[08:26] <noiesmo> silenced, you had sound at one stage??
[08:27] <noiesmo> Silenced, do the onliner from crimsun_ asoundconf list && amixer and pastebin it
[08:27] <Silenced> No no upgrade, I install from the LTS 6.06 kubuntu release 2 weeks ago if even that long and sound worked flawlessly when I first installed
[08:28] <Silenced> the only package I have tried to install that failed was flash but I don't think that would have caused the problem
[08:28] <Silenced> crimsun_: http://pastebin.com/712323
[08:28] <crimsun_> Silenced: amixer set 'PCM' on
[08:29] <exceswater> hi all
[08:29] <exceswater> good morning everyone :D
[08:29] <Silenced> crimsun_: through alsamixer?
[08:29] <exceswater> defrysk: hi
[08:29] <crimsun_> no, just paste that in Konsole
[08:29] <Silenced> crimsun_: ok done
[08:30] <crimsun_> Silenced: now play some music
[08:30] <exceswater> i need some help about binding some keys to an action
[08:30] <Silenced> YES
[08:30] <exceswater> who can help me
[08:30] <Silenced> crimsun_: me high fives crimsun_
[08:30] <Silenced> How the crap did that get turned off
[08:30] <crimsun_> some app probably toggled it *shrug*
[08:31] <Silenced> crimsun_: anyidea how to get adept to work again, its complaining that something else is hogging the package database even after a full reboot
[08:31] <Silenced> I tried a killall apt-get adept etc and nothing
[08:31] <crimsun_> I'm not familiar w/ Adept; does it keep a lockfile in /var/lock ?
[08:32] <noiesmo> crimsun_, adept is gui for apt-get
[08:32] <Silenced> crimsun_: I have no idea, I can't even use apt-get though
[08:32] <crimsun_> noiesmo: (right)
[08:32] <Silenced> apt-get complains as well that the package database is in use
[08:33] <crimsun_> oh, then you do have a stale dpkg lock?
[08:34] <Silenced> crimsun_: I have no idea what that is or how to check it, I've just started using apt-get 2 weeks ago, I flipped to kubuntu from gentoo
[08:36] <crimsun_> ls -l /var/{lib/dpkg,cache/apt/archives}/lock
[08:36] <Silenced> crimsun_:
[08:36] <Silenced> -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 2006-06-12 08:25 /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[08:36] <Silenced> -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 2006-06-15 18:55 /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[08:37] <crimsun_> ok, what's the output from ``sudo apt-get update''?
[08:37] <crimsun_> (pastebin)
[08:39] <RawSewage> tj9991, does it put you out
[08:40] <tj9991> yes
[08:40] <RawSewage> I'm sorry to tell you this but
[08:40] <RawSewage> WE have a great new project
[08:46] <crimsun_> tyler: pastebin ``sudo apt-get update''
[08:47] <Silenced> crimsun_: sorry bad connection here been having problems all day
[08:48] <Silenced> I think the failed flash install is blocking apt-get from working
[08:49] <crimsun_> Silenced: what precisely is apt-get doing when you tell it to update?
[08:49] <Silenced> crimsun_: it keeps telling me I need to run dpkg --configure -a to correct the problem but that just tries to finsih the falsh install which failes
[08:49] <noiesmo> sudo apt-get -f install
[08:49] <err1> How do I set up a wireless network without using the kde utilities, cuz they aren't working the way they ought to.
[08:50] <Silenced> http://pastebin.com/712352
[08:50] <kuzmaster> accessing my wireless network was a sinch for me. all i needed to do was open the wireless assistance, and clich on the right network
[08:51] <Silenced> dpkg --configure -a tries to configure the flash install which once again hangs
[08:51] <err1> mine is wep secured.
[08:51] <crimsun_> Silenced: sudo dpkg -P flashplugin-nonfree
[08:52] <Silenced> ok will try that
[08:52] <Silenced> crimsun_: what was that amixer command you told me?
[08:53] <crimsun_> Silenced: which one, the one to diagnose or the one to fix?
[08:53] <Silenced> to fix
[08:53] <crimsun_> amixer set 'PCM' on
[08:54] <Silenced> crimsun_: thanks man apt-get update now works
[08:54] <RawSewage> tj9991, the project we are working on is one of those 'I wish I'd thought of that'
[08:54] <crimsun_> Silenced: did you use Adept to install flashplugin-nonfree?
[08:55] <Silenced> crimsun_: no I used apt-get and followed the tutorial on the wiki
[08:55] <crimsun_> Silenced: ah, you probably triggered the priority bug
[08:55] <crimsun_> Silenced: try using Adept (or Synaptic if you have it installed) to install it
[08:56] <crimsun_> if it hangs again, just close Adept and run that dpkg -P  command I gave you above
[08:56] <Silenced> crimsun_: ok thanks man
[08:57] <crimsun_> just to clarify, there are two independent issues here: 1) Macromedia mirror is awful; 2) There's a debconf priority bug for flashplugin-nonfree.
[08:58] <Silenced> crimsun_: ok thats good to know, I figured I was partially retarded and somehow bunked my system in 4 days haha
[09:01] <tj9991> what do you mean we
[09:01] <tj9991> you and kak?
[09:01] <RawSewage> youre good
[09:03] <Silenced> does anyone else have problems with stability using firefox on kubuntu
[09:04] <kuzmaster> nope
[09:04] <Silenced> it was rock solid on my other distro but it crashes like crazy on this one
[09:04] <kuzmaster> not me at least
[09:04] <kuzmaster> it seems to be solid for me
[09:04] <Silenced> hmmm
[09:05] <animato> hello, i just started using kubuntu, but it's pretty slugish, any way to speed it up? cancel some services or something?
[09:05] <RawSewage> animato, whats the speed of your computer
[09:05] <animato> it's not THAT slow
[09:05] <animato> amd athlon xp 2800 with 512 ddr ram
[09:06] <RawSewage> is that like 2.8 ghz
[09:06] <RawSewage> how can that be sluggish
[09:06] <animato> i don't think so
[09:06] <RawSewage> I can run it fine on a 767 mhz laptop
[09:07] <kuzmaster> how can i access shared files on another computer on my network?
[09:07] <animato> 2083
[09:07] <RawSewage> kuzmaster, Samba
[09:07] <animato> the model numbers for amd don't indicate their speed
[09:07] <kuzmaster> ok, ill look
[09:07] <BlankB> animato: is everything slow or just some applications?
[09:07] <animato> all of it
[09:08] <animato> when i open or close an app
[09:08] <animato> esp. konq, i can see it "drawing" it
[09:08] <kuzmaster> when i open samba shares, it says that it cant find any workgroups computersa
[09:09] <BlankB> animato: when you run top does it indicate if something is using all the cpu?
[09:09] <kuzmaster> hang on, its found the required computer
[09:09] <lowtech> animato: what video card?
[09:09] <animato> top?
[09:09] <animato> nvidia geforce 4 mx
[09:09] <oskyldig> Hmmm.. I have installation question for partitions.. Just a bit confused :)
[09:10] <animato> what's top? i just started using kde, i was using gnome before
[09:10] <BlankB> animato: in a Konsole just type: top
[09:10] <Hobbsee> oskyldig: shoot
[09:10] <oskyldig> Okej I have 1 HD, I have windows currently istnalled, I want to split the HD into 3 partitions, 1 existing windows, 1swap and 1 ext3
[09:10] <animato> what's "gam_server?"
[09:10] <oskyldig> When I am at the install screen I dont know how to create the 2 new ones
[09:11] <animato> it's using 64% of the cpu
[09:11] <RawSewage> kuzmaster, did it work
[09:11] <yonkeltron> where can i request a package?
[09:11] <lowtech> oskyldig: you'll want a /home too
[09:11] <Hobbsee> yonkeltron: what package?
[09:12] <oskyldig> yes that's possible, but I dont know how to make them ;)
[09:12] <yonkeltron> Hobbsee: democracy
[09:12] <oskyldig> I've just got.. .1 entry there and its 20GB used of 60GB available
[09:12] <animato> where can i cancel some services? i'm not using bluetooth and such, maybe that's leeching away my cpu, i just saw a BT service awhile ago
[09:12] <Hobbsee> yonkeltron: wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuSuggestedPackages
[09:13] <yonkeltron> Hobbsee: todah.
[09:13] <animato> what does the daemon/service "gam_server" does?
[09:14] <kuzmaster> RawSewage. yeah it works
[09:14] <RawSewage> ok
[09:16] <animato> blankb, that link won't work
[09:16] <animato> what were you trying to show me?
[09:16] <oskyldig> Ouf.. No guidiance? :S
[09:17] <BlankB> animato: http://tinyurl.com/mryem
[09:17] <animato> thanx
[09:19] <animato> but if it's a gnome package, why can't i turn it off or uninstall it on kde?
[09:19] <oskyldig> Hmmm.. Install, how to make the partitions... help?
[09:20] <BlankB> animato: dunno... I dont have the problem.
[09:20] <animato> :(
[09:22] <Healot> !partition
[09:22] <ubotu> Healot: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:22] <Healot> www.tldp.org >> oskyldig
[09:22] <oskyldig> thanks
[09:23] <Healot> all about GNU/Linux
[09:25] <kuzmaster> how do i install skype
[09:25] <kuzmaster> i have downloaded the .deb
[09:26] <Hobbsee> !skype
[09:26] <ubotu> it has been said that skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[09:26] <kuzmaster> and ran sudo dpkg -i /home/josh/Desktop/Debs/skype.deb
[09:26] <kuzmaster> thanks
[09:26] <kuzmaster> !ubotu
[09:26] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[09:36] <omega> It's funny how the wiki always says that software is unavailable. But never why.
[09:43] <Healot> you need to know why?
[09:47] <kuzmaster> !skype
[09:47] <ubotu> rumour has it, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[09:48] <itay> Problems with xgl on kde - see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1137606#post1137606
[09:49] <kuzmaster> how can i make konsole transparent?
[09:50] <kuzmaster> is it possible?
[09:51] <kuzmaster> is it?
[09:51] <kuzmaster> well?
[09:52] <kuzmaster> well, can i make konsole transparent
[09:53] <animato> hello, i can play streaming videos fine with kong, but how can i configure firefox to use kaffeine with streaming video?
[09:53] <Hobbsee> kuzmaster: yes.  poking around the options usually helps
[09:53] <Hobbsee> kuzmaster: settings, configure konsole, schema, hit the transparency button
[09:53] <kuzmaster> and where will i find these options?
[09:53] <kuzmaster> thanxs
[09:54] <Adam_eM> hi
[09:55] <animato> hello, i can play streaming videos fine with kong, but how can i configure firefox to use kaffeine with streaming video?
[09:56] <dbglt> is there anyone who can assist me in installing/fixing my ATI drivers? I've followed the ATI binary howto, and my drivers are still the MESA ones :(
[09:56] <dbglt> any ideas?
[09:56] <Adam_eM> can anyone give me the synaptic script to automatically download a build-essential package and it's dependencies ? I heard synaptic can do those scripts, and i have to download these file through windows, since i haven't got a net access in kubuntu
[09:56] <PyroMithrandir> dbglt, you have to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to
[09:56] <PyroMithrandir> oh come on
[09:56] <PyroMithrandir> he left
[09:57] <dbglt> oops sorry, got disconnected. Anyone who can help with the binary ATI drivers?
[09:57] <PyroMithrandir> dbglt, you have to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:57] <dbglt> PyroMithrandir: I have.
[09:57] <defrysk> Adam_eM, to get the dependencies sudo apt-get build-dep <package>
[09:58] <dbglt> PyroMithrandir: Driver "fglrx", right?
[09:58] <animato> any other kde browsers besides konq?
[09:58] <PyroMithrandir> um, I don't know, isn't it Driver "ati" ?
[09:58] <PyroMithrandir> !ati
[09:58] <ubotu> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI radeon 9200 & below supported by open-source drivers http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[09:58] <pd273> has anyone got Radeon 9200 to work with fglrx
[09:58] <dbglt> PyroMithrandir: I followed the wiki you have linked to. It didn't work
[09:59] <PyroMithrandir> what do you mean it didn't work?
[09:59] <Adam_eM> defrysk but temporarily i cant use linux, just windows (i'm not at home, and i have to download the packages first)
[09:59] <PyroMithrandir> how did it not work?
[09:59] <pd273> some googling tells me it works, but I have no luck
[09:59] <defrysk> Adam_eM, sorry
[09:59] <dbglt> PyroMithrandir: I still don't have direct rendering: fglrxinfo reports it is using MESA
[09:59] <dbglt> there are no errors in my Xorg.log
[09:59] <dbglt> so I have no idea what's wrong
[09:59] <PyroMithrandir> dbglt, have you restarted your x server?
[10:00] <dbglt> PyroMithrandir: yes. And rebooted
[10:00] <Healot> the driver is "fglrx"
[10:00] <Adam_eM> defrysk could you just paste what your synaptic gave back to you as the build-essential dependencies ?
[10:01] <PyroMithrandir> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide <-- did you check the troubleshooting parts of that link, dbglt?
[10:02] <dbglt> one moment, restarting X server again: worth a shot. If not, I'll try the troubleshooting bit again
[10:02] <RawSewage> tj9991, one more day
[10:03] <tj9991> until?
[10:03] <RawSewage> Dont you have one more day
[10:03] <dbglt> PyroMithrandir: no luck :( grr
[10:03] <PyroMithrandir> well, I'm out of ideas. I don't have an ati card myself, so I don't have experience with this...
[10:03] <RawSewage> School
[10:03] <tj9991> yes
[10:03] <tj9991> im having friends over to celebrate
[10:03] <RawSewage> tonight?
[10:04] <tj9991> tomorrow
[10:04] <RawSewage> what does that have to do with Kubuntu
[10:04] <RawSewage> offtopic in BV
[10:05] <dbglt> Using the latest fglrx driver (8.25.18) renders GLX unusable for some Radeon based cards
[10:05] <dbglt>  Workaround: use older version of libGL.so.2.1 as described here: [WWW]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185033
[10:05] <dbglt> that could be a problem?
[10:05] <dbglt> no
[10:05] <dbglt> doesn't seem likely
[10:06] <defrysk> Adam_eM, http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/devel/build-essential
[10:06] <PyroMithrandir> well, no, because apparently you're not actually using the latest fglrx driver, right?
[10:06] <dbglt> PyroMithrandir: no idea
[10:07] <dbglt> whatever dapper uses...
[10:08] <PyroMithrandir> well if you've edited your  xorg.conf to tell it to use the fglrx driver I don't know why you don't think it is usin it
[10:08] <dbglt> using what?
[10:08] <PyroMithrandir> the fglrx driver
[10:10] <dbglt> hrmm
[10:10] <dbglt> in dmesg
[10:10] <dbglt> [4328362.182000]  [fglrx]  Internal AGP support requested, but kernel AGP support active.
[10:10] <dbglt> [4328362.182000]  [fglrx]  Have to use kernel AGP support to avoid conflicts.
[10:10] <dbglt> could that be a problem?
[10:11] <Healot> dbglt: look for those labelled (EE)
[10:11] <dbglt> Healot: there are none. I checked for that already
[10:12] <dbglt> hrmm no
[10:12] <Healot> in /var/log/Xorg.0.log    >> not dmesg
[10:12] <dbglt> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[10:12] <dbglt> Healot: yes I checked that
[10:12] <kuzmaster> hey all
[10:12] <Rede> occasionally my wifi cuts out (acx100 im assuming) and i have to reboot to get it to work again. i used to just be able to restart the device when i'd manually set up the wifi on fedora but i'm not sure how to do that on kubuntu
[10:13] <Rede> anyone know how i can restart the wlan0 device?
[10:13] <Healot> dbglt: grep the "acceleration"
[10:13] <kuzmaster> currently i only have one hard drive on this computer (kubuntu)