[05:29] <wibou> lost` : light and crippled right? :P
[05:30] <tenemag_> nothing sitll :-\
[05:30] <zcat[1]> lost`: why not just go all the way back.. win3.11 :)
[05:30] <netlarlinux> What should I set it to
[05:30] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : "ls" and pastebin me the result again
[05:30] <tenemag_> it's not that i want a shortcut to pidgin
[05:30] <tenemag_> its when i close the buddy list
[05:30] <tenemag_> in the past it's minimized to the system tray
[05:30] <tenemag_> up by the sound control and clock
[05:30] <grep100> need to play rm or real media files occasionally, searched the web and downloaded real_media_10_gold.bin the question is what do I do with it to make it work
[05:30] <netlarlinux> what is the best disklable bazhang?
[05:30] <bazhang> !who | tenemag_
[05:30] <ubotu> tenemag_: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[05:30] <tenemag_> now i close it and it exits
[05:30] <zcat[1]> scarey thing, I know people who still do stuff in DOS
[05:30] <Slart> nnggh.. back to windows 95.. it might look all roses and fluffy clouds in you memory.. but do you remember having to reboot cause you changed ip? =)
[05:30] <bazhang> zcat[1]: dosbox!
[05:31] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin  libllkdu.so   is all it says
[05:31] <sesho> grep100: run the bin file
[05:31] <bazhang> netlarlinux: used gparted before?
[05:31] <zcat[1]> nah, drdos on old 286's and stuff
[05:31] <netlarlinux> never have
[05:31] <tenemag_> anyone?
[05:31] <netlarlinux> it says msdos is the default bazhang
[05:31] <Slart> tenemag_: isn't there a setting for that somewhere? hang on..
[05:31] <tenemag_> aight
[05:32] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : pfff do-not-directly.... gna they are funny now, are they.
[05:32] <grep100> not sure how to run a file, I don't see any run command, or do I run it in a terminal?
[05:32] <bazhang> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/faq.php netlarlinux
[05:32] <linxeh> Slart: I remember having to reboot because I sneezed with win95...
[05:32] <tenemag_> Slart: I could even remove the sound control and clock if i wanted to by selecting "remove panel"
[05:32] <function1> is alsa supposed to set up virtual midi ports by default?
[05:32] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: what am I doing wrong? I want to kill Xserver so I can install nvidia's driver
[05:32] <tenemag_> err Remove FROM panel
[05:32] <Slart> tenemag_: yes.. you can get a clean panel if you really want..
[05:33] <dvm> I'm having a little problem with LDAP integration with system, can someone help me?
[05:33] <tenemag_> how?
[05:33] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: trying to use /sbin/init 3 like I've read everywhere, but it does nothing
[05:33] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou, so what do i do?
[05:33] <tenemag_> err i mean how can i put things back on it lol
[05:33] <Slart> tenemag_: there is a setting for "show system tray icon".. in preferences
[05:33] <bazhang> q_a_z_steve: could you describe a bit more? what is the issue? can you not boot into safe mode?
[05:33] <Slart> tenemag_: oh.. just right-click on the panel and select "add"
[05:33] <tenemag_> i was trying to remove the deskbar applet but i selected te wrong one lol
[05:33] <sesho> grep100: open a terminal
[05:33] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: if /etc/init.d/gdm stop didn't do it.. killall xinit might help
[05:33] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : trying to find documentation about it... they did not provide you any docs?
[05:33] <tenemag_> Slart: i've tried that, it just makes a shortcut to Open pidgin
[05:34] <elias> Hello
[05:34] <bazhang> hi elias
[05:34] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: I don't know the F6 option to use, so I was trying to kill x, and there are 10 different ways to do that, none of which seem to work
[05:34] <Slart> tenemag_: right click on an empty panel part.. select "Add to panel"
[05:34] <sesho> grep100: cd to the dir where you downloaded to , so if you downloaded the file to desktop go "cd Desktop"
[05:34] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  hold on
[05:34] <bazhang> q_a_z_steve: did you try zcat[1]'s options?
[05:35] <tenemag_> Slart: what do I add to the panel then?
[05:35] <tenemag_> Slart: there's no pidgin option
[05:35] <sesho> grep100: chmod +x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[05:35] <sesho> grep100:  sudo ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[05:35] <PurpZeY> tenemag_: You are just trying to add a launcher for pidgin?
[05:35] <Slart> tenemag_: try notification area.. it's at the bottom almost
[05:35] <sesho> grep100: thats it
[05:35] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: zcat[1] just now, from a terminal, not Ctrl+Alt+F1, didn't do anything
[05:35] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: ctrl-alt-F1, log in as normal user, sudo -i, /etc/init.d/gdm stop, possibly killall xinit if it was in the reconfigure thingy 'cos gdm won't kill that
[05:35] <grep100> thanks
[05:35] <tenemag_> PurpZeY: no, not a laucher...
[05:35] <PurpZeY> tenemag_: I got it, you are missing the notification area
[05:36] <tenemag_> yes!
[05:36] <PurpZeY> tenemag_: Add it the same way "right click" and in the add options there is "notification area"
[05:36] <q_a_z_steve> xinit no process killed
[05:36] <Slart> tenemag_: you got your pidgin icon back?
[05:36] <q_a_z_steve> zcat[1]:  ^^^^
[05:36] <astro76> q_a_z_steve, you have to stop gdm form a virtual console (ctrl-alt-F1)
[05:36] <tenemag_> ah hold on
[05:36] <zcat[1]> ok I'm kinda stumped then
[05:37] <tenemag_> i dont see notification area
[05:37] <kazil> mornin` all
[05:37] <zcat[1]> stopping gdm from within a terminal works iirc.. I think I've done that before
[05:37] <bazhang> tenemag_: dont see it where?
[05:37] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  theres the readme that came with it  http://pastebin.com/m13766125
[05:37] <Slart> tenemag_: are you really sure? there are lots of icons in that "add to panel" thingy.. scroll down.. it should be down there
[05:37] <zcat[1]> not the recomended way though
[05:37] <bazhang> haha
[05:37] <PurpZeY> tenemag_: It is there.
[05:38] <cens0red> Hi. Can't get my PC to suspend or hibernate. I get an error a bit like "Sleep error. Your computer failed to suspend. Check the help file". Anyone know about this problem?
[05:38] <tenemag_> ok lemme look
[05:38] <bazhang> urg
[05:38] <Slart> tenemag_: in the "utilities" section
[05:38] <tenemag_> ah got it back :-D thanks guys
[05:38] <q_a_z_steve> zcat[1]: astro76 bazhang I just did that, and it's still saying I appear to be running an X server when I sh
[05:38] <tenemag_> that had me confused because i thought only pidgin dissapeared lol
[05:38] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: reboot, when you see GRUB press esc right away, pich the second line of the menu that appears..
[05:38] <detedagowa> my nautilus shut down how do i get ti back up
[05:38] <elias> Do i need a special monitor driver for my acer laptop "wide screen monitor" ?
[05:39] <zcat[1]> *pick
[05:39] <kenby> q_a_z_steve:sudo gedit /etc/inittab
[05:39] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : ah crap I missed this earlier... ok, come back in the directory you were before (use "cd .." if you are stil in the bin or use the first cd command you used earlier)
[05:39] <Slart> elias: nope... or at least I didn't
[05:39] <Slart> elias: what model?
[05:39] <zcat[1]> kenby: you sure you want him to do that..?
[05:39] <q_a_z_steve> zcat[1]: pick which menu?
[05:39] <elias> acer 7720g
[05:39] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : then try this : "./secondlife" and pray (or immolate a virgin or whatever you want)
[05:40] <Slart> elias: ok.. not the same as mine.. well well.. did the live cd work alright?
[05:40] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: when you press escape you should get a menu, first line is normal boot, second is rescue mode, possibly some more options, memtest will be the last option..
[05:40] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  well, thats worked
[05:40] <q_a_z_steve> I have a boot: prompt
[05:40] <wibou> :)
[05:40] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  cool, thanks!
[05:41] <zcat[1]> that's for just after you reboot, you'll see GRUB and have about three seconds to press ESC for the menu
[05:41] <elias> Slart: i have it installed on the hard drive
[05:41] <FyRe> #28
[05:41] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : no problem... good luck thought, this is alpha stuff
[05:41] <Slart> elias: and it's not working?
[05:41] <zcat[1]> Boot prompt? cool.. type 'linux 1'
[05:41] <q_a_z_steve> zcat[1]: I'm sitting at a boot menu, is that what you want[05:41] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  crap, i tryed logging in it just shut down the program...
[05:41] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  this is homosexual...
[05:41] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: apparently you're using LILO.. weird!
[05:42] <elias> Slart: I cant change the resolution without black screen
[05:42] <q_a_z_steve> could not find kernel image: linux. that's crazy I'm not using lilo, it's a persistent gutsy USB install
[05:42] <q_a_z_steve> zcat[1]: I exited the GUI boot
[05:42] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : hehehe... well make sure you have the correct version of library. Especially openGL stuff... what's your video card?
[05:42] <Slart> elias: hmm.. and you're stuck in.. say 640x480 or something like that? what graphics card do you have?
[05:43] <elias> Slart: Mobility Radeon HD 2600
[05:43] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: ok, I'm stumped :)
[05:43] <cycom> Has anyone managed to get their Toshiba (phoenix bios) fn keys and multimedia keys working again?  They died after 7.04...
[05:43] <Slart> !ati | elias
[05:43] <ubotu> elias: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:43] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  well, it worked for me when i had windows
[05:43] <Slart> elias: have you tried the stuff in that link from ubotu?
[05:44] <q_a_z_steve> zcat[1]: rebooted again, I have Start... persistent; start live; start safe graphics; install driver update CD...
[05:44] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : that doesnt mean much... good graphic drivers are quite rare in linux. Nvidia are usually quite good, ati are getting better (getting better, they still suck atmo), intel is still a total mess
[05:44] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: out of my depth sorry.. never delt with that kind of install :(
[05:45] <q_a_z_steve> can I send a boot option/cheatcode???
[05:45] <elias> Slart: I used the synaptic packet intaller to download and install the "radeonhd" xorg driver but it don't work, it uses VESA now =(
[05:45] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: probably, but I don't know how..
[05:45] <Slart> elias: did you try the "restricted driver" thingy?
[05:45] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: 'tab' at the boot: prompt shows anything?
[05:45] <netlarlinux> bazhang, i was able to format the disk, but now I am getting an error when trying to mount that drive
[05:46] <bazhang> netlarlinux: what error?
[05:46] <netlarlinux> "Failed to determine the mount point for /dev/sdb"
[05:46] <elias> Slart: No is it better then the "radeonhd" driver ?
[05:47] <Slart> elias: I don't know.. I have a nvidia myself .. but I think the restricted driver manager is the recommended way
[05:47] <q_a_z_steve> zcat[1]: If I understand what you're asking, no
[05:47] <netlarlinux> I can see the drive in Gparted bazhang
[05:47] <bazhang> q_a_z_steve: this is the livecd? or the alternatecd?
[05:47] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: weird.. so I guess it's not grub, not lilo.. I dunno what other bootmanager it could be..
[05:48] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: liveCD
[05:48] <ottothecow> anyone know how I can commit a chmod change to subversion?
[05:48] <lost`> Looking for someone who knows about Wine or runs any HL2 based Steam games on wine or any other emulator.  Trying to get HL2 based games to run a lot better.
[05:48] <Slart> lost`: try asking in #winehq
[05:48] <bazhang> netlarlinux: what did you format it as? ext3?
[05:48] <netlarlinux> ext2
[05:48] <elias> Slart: I was confused by the system (ubuntu) telling ME it don not NEED any proprietary ?
[05:49] <netlarlinux> ext2 bazhang
[05:49] <ottothecow> nm...I guess I need to set the executable prop if I edit a file outside of *nix
[05:49] <netlarlinux> should it be ext3 bazhang?
[05:49] <bazhang> netlarlinux: any reason for that as opposed to ext3?
[05:49] <netlarlinux> no
[05:49] <Slart> elias: oh.. it tells you that.. well..as I said.. I'm not familiar with ati cards and their drivers... perhaps someone else knows
[05:49] <netlarlinux> should I just refortmat to ext3 bazhang?
[05:50] <bazhang> netlarlinux: you can now see the hdd drive on your desktop area?
[05:50] <netlarlinux> always could
[05:50] <netlarlinux> but now i cannot mount it bazhang
[05:50] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: zcat[1] boot: live 1
[05:50] <bazhang> netlarlinux: what does right clicking on it reveal?
[05:51] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: zcat[1] or should I do 3 or something?
[05:51] <netlarlinux> Open, Mount, bazhang
[05:51] <feihung> newbie again, I typed mount and it shows procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[05:51] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: ahh, so it is lilo.. now you just need to figure out what runlevel is no-gui
[05:51] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: typically 1, possibly 3 I guess
[05:51] <bazhang> netlarlinux: and the mount command says no label? or no mount point? sorry got distracted for a moment
[05:51] <netlarlinux> No mount point bazhang
[05:51] <q_a_z_steve> umm 1 didn't do anything different, just errors when I got into gnome
[05:52] <feihung> newbie again, I typed mount and it shows procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) how can I access this usb disk ? thanks
[05:52] <bazhang> netlarlinux: what does fdisk -l say?
[05:53] <wibou> feihung : this is NOT your usb disk
[05:53] <netlarlinux> seems similar to the boot disk bazhang
[05:53] <netlarlinux> System is Linux , bazhang
[05:53] <feihung> wibou is that command means something to you
[05:53] <Shadow_X_> im trying to boot from the livecd
[05:53] <wibou> feihung : this is an interface to your USB bus... kernel stuff, nothing to do with your disk
[05:54] <wibou> feihung : you mean mount?
[05:54] <ObNockShus> hello.
[05:54] <Shadow_X_> it says "cant access tty: job control turned off (initramfs)
[05:54] <wolferine> anyone have issues with DCC receives on xchat ?
[05:54] <Shadow_X_> ?
[05:54] <bazhang> netlarlinux: what about just detaching and re-attaching it? what does that do? assuming you have quit gparted of course :}
[05:54] <wibou> wolferine : yup. it's a long know "bug" I think
[05:54] <Evolution2> hey guys, can someone help me with a hard drive mounting problem. it tells me that I have to force it to mount but that doesn't work either. any ideas?
[05:54] <netlarlinux> Detaching it? how do i do that bazhang
[05:55] <wolferine> wibou, any thing to correct it ?
[05:55] <ObNockShus> I'm having trouble setting myself as "root" in ubuntu. Can anyone help?
[05:55] <q_a_z_steve> zcat[1]: bazhang that's not changing anything either, live 3, why doesn't killall work for this??? so confused
[05:55] <wibou> wolferine : a security feature is going crazy when you receive too many DCC send as it seems...
[05:55] <feihung> ok thanks wibou I am trying to mount my external harddisk from vmware server and it's not mounted
[05:55] <wolferine> wibou, that doesnt sound like my scenario
[05:55] <Slart> ObNockShus: eh..explain a little more, please.. what are you trying to do?
[05:55] <bazhang> !root | ObNockShus
[05:55] <ubotu> ObNockShus: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:55] <matrix> ji
[05:55] <wibou> wolferine : well, if it's the bug I am thinking about... unless they released a patch or that you want to edit their code, not much
[05:55] <Slart> ObNockShus: you know about sudo, right=
[05:56] <wibou> wolferine : oh... then forget about it :)
[05:56] <wolferine> Evolution2, posting the exact error may help someone to troubleshoot with u
[05:56] <Shadow_X_> im trying to boot the livecd, it says "/bin/sh: cant access tty: job control turned off (initramfs)   wtf?
[05:56] <ObNockShus> sudo sets it?
[05:56] <wolferine> wibou, so nothing to repair it, that u know of ?
[05:56] <Evolution2> wolferine: come again?
[05:56] <wibou> wolferine : well, what's your bug exactly?
[05:56] <Slart> !who | ObNockShus
[05:56] <ubotu> ObNockShus: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[05:56] <bazhang> ObNockShus: did you read that link? :}
[05:57] <wolferine> wibou, i cannot receive anymore, but I was able to in the past ( via DCC)
[05:57] <q_a_z_steve> zcat[1]: bazhang you know what, I don't really care about the driver, I know this much: nvidia-glx worked for me in 7.04 live, but glx-new doesn't work with 7.10, therefore, I'm trying to get around the restricted driver stuff.
[05:57] <wibou> feihung : hmmm... unplug the drive, then plug it back then and type "dmesg" in a terminal. Paste me the last, say, twenty line on pastebin
[05:57] <ObNockShus>  ubotu. so if I try to log in as root with no password I'll get root?
[05:57] <adrian__> I have one Q: is there any way to eject a CD in the terminal?
[05:57] <wolferine> !pastebin | feihung
[05:57] <PurpZeY> !root | ObNockShus
[05:57] <ubotu> feihung: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:57] <ubotu> ObNockShus: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:58] <wibou> wolferine : hummmm weird. Well eeeh I don't know :(
[05:58] <bazhang> ObNockShus: reading links is your friend :}
[05:58] <Slart> ObNockShus: ubotu is a bot.. read the link about sudo. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:58] <wolferine> wibou, np :) thanks though
[05:58] <ObNockShus> ubuto, that will help alot. Thanks
[05:59] <wolferine> ObNockShus, your talking to a bot, not a person :)
[05:59] <bazhang> he is a bot ObNockShus
[05:59] <wolferine> ;)
[05:59] <adrian__> HELP is there any way to eject a CD by useing a terminal command?
[05:59] <ObNockShus> rofl@me
[05:59] <nickrud> it, bazhang it
[05:59] <wibou> adrian__: try "eject" ??
[05:59] <blkorpheus> anyone know system requirements for fluxbuntu or geubuntu?
[05:59] <conorkirk> I have Ubuntu installed on an iMac, and I can't type anymore... any time I type, no text comes up, but things pop up as if I typed a shortcut key...
[05:59] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: I don't really care about the driver, I know this much: nvidia-glx worked for me in 7.04 live, but glx-new doesn't work with 7.10, therefore, I'm trying to get around the restricted driver stuff.
[05:59] <Slart> adrian__: you tried "eject".. of course
[05:59] <bazhang> nickrud: hahaha not sentient yet?
[05:59] <wolferine> lol @ wibou
[05:59] <Evolution2> wolferine: any ideas?
[05:59] <ObNockShus> is it a "he" bot or a "she" bot?  hehehe
[05:59] <nickrud> bazhang, who says an it can't be sentient
[05:59] <PurpZeY> ObNockShus: Pinbot
[06:00] <wolferine> Evolution2, i have many, all day long, some I keep to myself, others, I share
[06:00] <wibou> ObNockShus : depend of what you like... whenever you like, it's the opposite :P
[06:00] <wolferine> Evolution2, what about you, ever have any ideas ?
[06:00] <bazhang> q_a_z_steve: the alternate cd has a driver installer feature in it; though it is ncurses-based so no cute graphical installer
[06:00] <Metalcore> Can anyone help me wth JACK here?
[06:00] <bazhang> nickrud: good point :}
[06:00] <ObNockShus> lol. tx wibou
[06:00] <wibou> ObNockShus : Nb : flirting with bot usually mean you need help :P
[06:00] <PurpZeY> Metalcore: I don't know JACK
[06:00] <conorkirk> I have Ubuntu installed on an iMac, and I can't type anymore... any time I type, no text comes up, but things pop up as if I typed a shortcut key...
[06:00] <rhinovirus> my games arent recognizing my video card, any ideas?
[06:00] <PurpZeY> rhinovirus: Turn off compiz first.
[06:01] <Evolution2> wolferine: I do but I am not good at this stuff. I am more of a KDE person. I am getting used to gnome now
[06:01] <Evolution2> or trying to
[06:01] <bazhang> rhinovirus: what games?
[06:01] <nickrud> PurpZeY, you stole my line ;(
[06:01] <rhinovirus> compiz?
[06:01] <opengl> Hello, I dont have alot of hard drive space for windows xp so I used Partition Magic and took 5 gb from a local disk that says linux ext3. Then when I restart my computer I get error 22 and windows or linux wont load, becuase grub is not there to load any. How to get more space for windows than without this happening.
[06:01] <PurpZeY> rhinovirus: 3d effects
[06:01] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: how hard would it be to tweak pendrivelinux instructions to install to USB?
[06:01] <Slart> rhinovirus: I don't think games on linux recognize your video cards.. I might be wrong though.. what game? any error messages?
[06:01] <wolferine> Evolution2, good to hear, I like Gnome, I have no ideas about KDE for you, sorry
[06:01] <rhinovirus> eve-online for one
[06:01] <adrian__> adrian@adrian-laptop:/cdrom$ eject
[06:01] <adrian__> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[06:01] <adrian__> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[06:01] <adrian__> eject: unmount of `/media/cdrom0' failed
[06:01] <PurpZeY> !paste | adrian__
[06:01] <ubotu> adrian__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:01] <briantumor> is it safe to unmount /home while it's in use?
[06:02] <bazhang> q_a_z_steve: not that bad; I've done it and I'm a relative newb
[06:02] <wibou> briantumor : eeeh NO it's not ?
[06:02] <wolferine> adrian__, sudo umount /media/cdrom0
[06:02] <bazhang> briantumor: no!
[06:02] <ObNockShus> wibou... I was a windows user from 1995 until 2 weeks ago. Obviously I need serious mental help.
[06:02] <briantumor> why not?
[06:02] <adrian__> thanks wolferine
[06:02] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: ok, thanks. I'll try that tomorrow.
[06:02] <briantumor>  / is still active
[06:02] <Slart> adrian__: first.. don't paste more than one line or so.. second.. something is using that cd-rom.. that's why you can't eject it.. got anything running from the cd?
[06:02] <nickrud> opengl, bummer, you should go to ##windows , have them get your windows booting as is, then consider what to do with the disk space
[06:02] <bazhang> q_a_z_steve: no worries
[06:02] <huff3r> flash dosen't work for me in Opera when using liuxmint, i need to check my ubuntu machine, when i'm sober
[06:02] <wibou> ObNockShus : iiiiiissh yes you do
[06:02] <Evolution2> wolferine: I am on gnome right now. I just want my external to be mounted but I run into this problem. could you look at it if I pastebin the errr?
[06:03] <adrian__> slart no i have not
[06:03] <wolferine> external HD ?
[06:03] <bazhang> huff3r: ask in the linuxmint channel and get some rest first :}
[06:03] <ObNockShus> wibou, hence all my idiotic linux/ubuntu questions
[06:03] <wolferine> Evolution2, external HD ?
[06:03] <Slart> adrian__: try this "lsof | grep -i /media/cdrom".. did you get any output?
[06:04] <wibou> ObNockShus : It's ok as long you don't flirt with the bot :)
[06:04] <Slart> ObNockShus: everyone has to start somewhere.. we've all been there
[06:04] <nickrud> briantumor, you shouldn't unmount /home while you're logged in as a regular user. If you plan on doing some maintenance on that partition, you should boot into recovery mode
[06:04] <wolferine> adrian__, save us all the time, just logout, log back in again
[06:04] <bazhang> haha flirt with the bot
[06:04] <briantumor> oh
[06:04] <Evolution2> wolferine: yes
[06:04] <briantumor> alright, thanks
[06:04] <adrian__> ok
[06:04] <wolferine> Evolution2, then no, I cannot help you
[06:04] <ObNockShus> wibou... But I like bots. They are somewhat predictable
[06:05] <ObNockShus> hehehe
[06:05] <wolferine> unlike a woman
[06:05] <chuy_max> hi, is there a way to monitor gpu activity?
[06:05] <bazhang> ObNockShus: join #ubuntu-trivia if you like bots :}
[06:05] <wibou> hummm smelling turing test
[06:05] <bullgard4> What is the purpose of the directory /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS> and its (large) contents?
[06:05] <wibou> bullgard4 : it's your kernel/kernel-header
[06:05] <ObNockShus> wolferine- I like the way you think. lol
[06:05] <wolferine> bullgard4, is the source of the kernel
[06:06] <nickrud> bullgard4, that's the source for your kernel
[06:06] <Slart> bullgard4: sources.. you use those when you compile stuff for your kernel.. drivers and such
[06:06] <wolferine> nickrud, not just his kernel :P
[06:06] <nickrud> bullgard4, doc/ is some interesting reading
[06:06] <CentHOGG> <beatles abbey road
[06:06] <nickrud> wolferine, what else?
[06:06] <wolferine> nickrud, anyone else who uses that box :P
[06:06] <wibou> bullgard4 : you better keep it. You can sometime live without the source (as long you have an image) but it's a bit complex and it end in a mess more often then not
[06:07]  * nickrud pulls the hook from his mouth
[06:07] <wolferine> lol
[06:08] <wolferine> i was about to send u to #offtopic :P
[06:08] <bullgard4> wibou: I do not understand: I thought that the directory /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22 contains my kernel's source code. Hwsat?
[06:08] <tuntun> isn't the Deskbar Applet supposed to be like launchy? why do i need to select an action and then press enter after typing to search?
[06:09]  * cyphase wonders how long it will be until AI is sufficient to make hardware drivers obsolete :P
[06:09] <bullgard4> wolferine: I do not understand: I thought that the directory /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22 contains my kernel's source code. Hwsat?
[06:10] <wolferine> bullgard4, read above
[06:10] <wibou> bullgard4 : one are the header files, one is the actual kernel source. The header is really important. The source a bit less but I don't think it's a good idea for you to remove it
[06:10] <Slart> bullgard4: imho you won't be needing the kernel source code a lot.. the headers though.. those get used once in a while and they aren't that large
[06:10] <tuntun> isn't the Deskbar Applet supposed to be like launchy? why do i need to select an action and then press enter after typing to search?
[06:10] <wolferine> wibou, i dont think he mentioned anything about removing it...
[06:10] <wolferine> assuming worse case scenerios ?
[06:10] <cyphase> tuntun: wait a little while between posts
[06:11] <nickrud> bullgard4, you can remove that unpacked dir, no problem. You should still have a tar of it in that dir, anyway. Unless you plan on compiling a kernel, it's extraneous
[06:11] <Slart> you can just download the kernel source if you need it, right?
[06:11] <cyphase> tuntun: i know it can be frustrating :)
[06:11] <rainwalker> I convinced my friend to try linux, but he doesn't have any cds...is there any way to use an .iso without a cd?
[06:11] <hiro_> join #kuri
[06:11] <|ns|nR8> no easy way rainwalker
[06:11] <Slart> rainwalker: not to boot from... you might be able to use it in a vm perhaps
[06:11] <wibou> wolferine : well, when someone is asking about a the usefulness of a "large directory", they are usually just about to delete it, trust my long experience on the matter :)
[06:11] <cyphase> rainwalker: a VM
[06:11] <tuntun> rainwalker: no there IS
[06:11] <rainwalker> haha good luck explaining a vm to my friend
[06:11] <nickrud> !install | rainwalker (I think you'll find away there)
[06:11] <ubotu> rainwalker (I think you'll find away there): Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[06:12] <wolferine> 'worse case scenario' worrier :P
[06:12] <cyphase> rainwalker: that last link :)
[06:12]  * rainwalker clicks
[06:12] <rainwalker> hm...
[06:12] <wibou> wolferine : hehe maybe
[06:12] <rainwalker> this installs it? what if he just wants to try it, like if he had a live cd?
[06:12] <wolferine> k, time to hit the hay
[06:12] <Slart> that link was pretty neat.. never thought about that..
[06:13] <wolferine> nite ppl
[06:13] <tuntun> rainwalker: is was just canvasing that question a few days ago. Its a bit fiddly though, messing with GRUB
[06:13] <cyphase> rainwalker: a VM isn't to hard if you walk him through it
[06:13] <rainwalker> ug
[06:13] <_MattB> does anyone know if mdadm can convert a raid5 array to raid6 without losing data?
[06:13] <cyphase> rainwalker: it doesn't ave to be VMWare Enterprise :)
[06:13] <Slart> rainwalker: burn a cd and give to the guy.. in theory he could do lots of weird stuff to make it work.. but I doubt it would be worth it
[06:13] <rainwalker> it was hard enough walking him through choosing Ubuntu vs. Mint
[06:13] <cyphase> have*
[06:13] <nickrud> rainwalker,  do it, he'll love you once he's seen a vm
[06:14] <zero88> VirtualBox
[06:14] <zero88> best VM
[06:14] <rainwalker> he doesn't care enough to go through the effort of setting up a vm
[06:14] <rainwalker> he's on a mac
[06:14] <Xecuter> hi! quick question: what is the "Screens and Graphics" program called? i need to install it but i don't know its name (other that Screens and Graphics)...
[06:14] <cafuego> Parallels runs Ubuntu very nicely, thankyou.
[06:14] <wibou> Hmmm reboot to test my new (and probably not working) kernel. See ya later, people.
[06:15] <Slart> Xecuter: the menu launches "gksu displayconfig-gtk"
[06:15] <rainwalker> cafuego is parallels installed on leopard?
[06:15] <cyphase> wibou: i'll pray for you ;)
[06:15] <kewlguy2> is there known problem with geforce8800 and 7.10
[06:15] <Xecuter> Slart, thanks alot! :D
[06:15] <cafuego> rainwalker: No, it's non-free
[06:15] <rainwalker> arg
[06:16] <Slart> Xecuter: you're welcome
[06:16] <cafuego> rainwalker: *however* vmware evaluation version runs fine on Loepard
[06:16] <cyphase> rainwalker: VirtualBox is free
[06:16] <sparkfire946> 2 quick questions, first one, if i am using a metacity gnome theme, would it go "bye bye" if i installed compiz for the desktop cube?
[06:16] <sparkfire946> and also, can i even do that on ATI hardware
[06:16] <cafuego> and VirtualBox runs on Mac OS X?
[06:16] <Slart> kewlguy2: I use it.. why do you ask?
[06:16] <bullgard4> wolferine: I am still confused. You say "/usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS> is the kernel". But what is /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22 then?
[06:16] <gadis> hi
[06:16] <cyphase> sparkfire946: yes, and, on some cards
[06:17] <kewlguy2> Slart: black screen when installing, so i installed via the safe graphic option, but am trying to figure how to update the drive that i download from www.nvidia.com
[06:17] <sparkfire946> i know this card uses that ATI Fglrx driver...
[06:17] <Slart> bullgard4: I think one of them is the kernel-headers.. the other one is the actual source.. I might be confused though. it's early and I haven't had my coffee yet
[06:17] <kewlguy2> Slart: or should i try envy? are they relible?
[06:17] <Slart> !envy
[06:17] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[06:17] <nickrud> sparkfire946 if you install xserver-xgl and restart, you should get compiz
[06:17] <sparkfire946> aight...
[06:17] <nickrud> Slart, is there a method to turn the nvidia driver into debs?
[06:17] <woot2> ?
[06:18] <tuntun> rainwalker: is was just canvasing that question a few days ago. Its a bit fiddly though, messing with GRUB
[06:18] <tuntun> forget that^^
[06:18] <rainwalker> tuntun what?
[06:18] <sparkfire946> nickrud: so just install xserver-xgl and reboot? simple as that?
[06:18] <rainwalker> ok
[06:18] <Slart> kewlguy2: the driver from nvidia has the fan's working 100% all the time.. you can set it using nvclock but you have to do it manually.. I had the black screen thing on feisty.. I had to remove the splash screen in grub.. add nosplash to kernel line
[06:18] <tuntun> isn't the Deskbar Applet supposed to be like launchy? why do i need to select an action and then press enter after typing to search?
[06:18] <netlarlinux> bazhang you still there?
[06:18] <nickrud> sparkfire946, if fglrx shows you're using the ati drivers and not mesa, install and log out and back in.   Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[06:21] <root_> shut up all people
[06:21]  * nickrud has slow fingers again
[06:21] <the7thmagus> root_: what do you want? you have been saying random things
[06:21] <root_> i cant hear urs fucking shit
[06:22] <bazhang> phew
[06:22]  * tuntun says /kick root_
[06:22] <troubled> nixternal: they always get tuff when they have a proxy it seems....
[06:22] <woot2> root_ drank too much
[06:22] <|ns|nR8> im guessing thats sum kinda silence ban
[06:22] <tuntun> whats the closest thing to launchy for linux?
[06:22] <Nostahl> hi all is there anything special i need to do before i switch my graphics card to a different one
[06:22] <nixternal> tuntun: gnome do
[06:22] <Slart> tuntun: if you tell us what launchy is we might be able to help you
[06:23] <rainwalker> Slart it's a lancher
[06:23] <nickrud> Nostahl, what card are you installing?
[06:23] <tuntun> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launchy
[06:23] <rainwalker> launcher*
[06:23] <nixternal> tuntun: if you use Ubuntu then Gnome Do (it is in the PPAs) and if you use Kubuntu then use Katapult
[06:23]  * Slart sees the light
[06:23] <Nostahl> nickrud im going from my ati allinwonder 9600xt to a nvidia geforce fx 5200
[06:24] <fotoflo> oh this ssl problem is killing me
[06:24] <Slart> tuntun: I use alt+f2.. it's not fancy but it works
[06:24] <tuntun> i was pretty sure that deskbar applet was a launcher, but it odesn't seem to search-as-you-type
[06:24] <fotoflo> 20 seconds on every save
[06:24] <nickrud> Nostahl, install the card, boot into recovery mode, run   dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg,   then  run  telinit 2  , you should have the default video for the 5200
[06:24] <Nostahl> nickrud i just uninstalled the restricted driver i was using for the ati card
[06:24] <normanm> hi
[06:24] <Slart> hello normanm
[06:24] <Nostahl> can you message that to me nickrud
[06:24] <Nostahl> so it dosnt go away
[06:24] <nickrud> Nostahl, sure
[06:24] <Nostahl> ty
[06:24] <normanm> Is there any sources entry which can provide my support for php4 in gutsy ?
[06:25] <root_> fuck u nostlhl
[06:25] <nixternal> wow
[06:25] <root_> fuck u all
[06:25] <Slart> oh.. he's back
[06:25] <rainwalker> can someone explain to me what pulseaudio is?
[06:25] <the7thmagus> omfg
[06:25] <nixternal> hehe
[06:25] <Slart> like opening a really old can of tuna. =)
[06:25] <nixternal> had to try him out
[06:25] <nickrud> nixternal, you are too kind :)
[06:25] <the7thmagus> pulse audio, is an audio proxy
[06:25] <nixternal> hahahahha
[06:25] <looknow> tutun: try Katapult
[06:25] <nixternal> something tells me he was rather bottish concidering how fast after the -b he started
[06:25] <rainwalker> the7thmagus: audio proxy?
[06:26] <rainwalker> nixternal or maybe he never stopped cussing...
[06:26] <nixternal> lol
[06:26] <normanm> if there is no way to use support php4 without recompile it by my own I will probally switch to freebsd on this servers
[06:26] <nixternal> just kept going not realizing he was +b'd
[06:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !info php4
[06:26] <ubotu> Package php4 does not exist in gutsy
[06:26] <Slart> rainwalker: it makes it easier to make sounds come out where you want them to come out.. with ribbons and stripes on the sides =)
[06:26] <the7thmagus> rainwalker: not sure about the details. supposedly, its useful for if you have a lot of audio tasks. it's like a middle man that shuttles sound
[06:26] <Slart> !pulse
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pulse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <kewlguy2> Slart: im going to unrestrict the driver and see what happen, i hope it will not crash
[06:27] <rainwalker> weird...
[06:27] <ljsmithx> Hello again guys!
[06:27] <Slart> kewlguy2: good luck =)
[06:27] <nixternal> wo0t it is level1
[06:28] <rainwalker> well the reason I ask is because someone on the forums said installing some esound and pulseaudio packages fixed a problem he had (no logout sound) that I have too
[06:28] <ljsmithx> I just got that fingerprint splash screen and activated it via start up manager and when I logged back in
[06:28] <level1> nixternal: I didn't know I was so loved
[06:28] <ljsmithx> my desktop icons are missing
[06:28] <ljsmithx> :(
[06:28] <tuntun> nixternal: PPA's=?. i searched add/remove for "launcher" and katapult came up, but not gnome do
[06:28] <nixternal> level1: I love all! :) especially those in chicago
[06:28] <nixternal> tuntun: are you using edgy?
[06:28] <jiggadavs> If someone is willing to help me dual boot vista + ubuntu (w/ vista already installed), I would really appreciate it.  I was able to partition my drive 5 months ago and install ubuntu, but approx. 3 days later my motherboard crashed and I just went ahead and reinstalled vista by itself again.
[06:28] <rainwalker> I don't think gnome do is in the repos
[06:28] <lazy247x> help
[06:28] <jiggadavs> I think the problem im having is that i have a dell xps 1710 with mediadirect
[06:29] <nixternal> tuntun: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GnomeDo
[06:29] <tuntun> nixternal: guty
[06:29] <level1> nixternal: I've been wanting to come to a LUG meeting, but I'm not in chicago very much anymore; also, its a little out of my way
[06:29] <Slart> tuntun: did you try the alt+f2 thingy?
[06:29] <nixternal> ya, I meant gutsy
[06:29] <ljsmithx> ANyone? how do I reload my desktop icons?
[06:29] <kewlguy2> Slart: its in low res... 640x840 is that normal?
[06:29] <tuntun> ^^guty, lol
[06:29] <lazy247x> I tried to install a program but its telling me i need GTK2+ runtimes but I install Gtk2 dev .. dont know what to do?
[06:29] <sigra> anyone familiar with cedega?
[06:29] <the7thmagus> lksmithx: did you restart X window?
[06:30] <ljsmithx> how do I do that?
[06:30] <Slart> kewlguy2: well.. normal is a big word.. can you change the resolution? there is sometihng in system, preferences I think
[06:30] <the7thmagus> alt-backspace
[06:30] <ljsmithx> hmm
[06:30] <ljsmithx> ok brb
[06:30] <kewlguy2> Slart: its only limited to that choice :(
[06:30] <ljsmithx> umm
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> lazy247x: what are you trying to install
[06:30] <kewlguy2> with refresh rate of 50-54 hz
[06:30] <ljsmithx> that has no effect
[06:30]  * nickrud thinks alt-backspace without warning it wll close all apps abruptly is kinda cruel
[06:31] <lazy247x> program call xfprot
[06:31] <ljsmithx> I press and hold alt-backspace and nothing happens
[06:31] <the7thmagus> sorry. I think it was ctrl-backspace. but beware
[06:31] <sigra> i have my wow directory in cedega transgaming_drive directory and the directory is locked and i cannot get my program out so i can dump the software..any ideals?
[06:31] <the7thmagus> it will quit all your apps
[06:31] <ljsmithx> ..
[06:31] <nickrud> ljsmithx, ctl-alt-backspace, and it will kill any open apps and lose data
[06:31] <ljsmithx> thats ok
[06:31] <ljsmithx> brb
[06:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !info xfprot
[06:31] <ubotu> Package xfprot does not exist in gutsy
[06:31] <rkj> hey anybody, any advice on what to do if software installed by Synaptic Package Manager doesn't work? e.g., like someone who should be notified?
[06:31] <lazy247x> i know i downloaded it
[06:32] <lazy247x> i think the problem is that i need KDE ?? -- maybe I dont know?
[06:32] <Jack_Sparrow> lazy247x: Where are you getting it and is it packaged for Ubuntu and is it a deb?
[06:32] <lazy247x> no its a tar.gz
[06:32] <ljsmithx> hmm
[06:32] <ljsmithx> they arn't there
[06:32] <ljsmithx> :(
[06:33] <ljsmithx> it went all black then I had to log back in
[06:33] <Slart> kewlguy2: hmm.. then somethings not right.. hang on
[06:33] <tuntun> Slart: alt+f2: im really after search-as-you-type, if you have ever used launchy you would know how nice and simple it is :)
[06:33] <lazy247x> http://www.goitexpert.com/entry.cfm?entry=FProt-AntiVirus-on-LinuxUBUNTU
[06:33] <nickrud> ljsmithx, that's how it works.  Try alt-f2 nautilus
[06:33] <ljsmithx> ok...
[06:33] <nickrud> ljsmithx, um, do you see the panels ?
[06:33] <ljsmithx> like the menus and things?
[06:33] <Jack_Sparrow> lazy247x: Are you trying to scan windows files for viruses?
[06:33] <lazy247x> no
[06:33] <nickrud> ljsmithx, yes, exactly
[06:34] <Slart> tuntun: well.. you know what you want.. although if I press alt+f2 it searches as I type..
[06:34] <ljsmithx> ok then ye
[06:34] <ljsmithx> s
[06:34] <lazy247x> i can scan fine.. but wanted the GUI
[06:34] <ljsmithx> I'll do alt-f2
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> lazy247x: Are you afraind of viruses in linux?
[06:34] <kewlguy2> Slart: what is your gfx card exactly? 8800GTS 640?
[06:34] <lazy247x> no
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> afraid
[06:34] <lazy247x> afraid of mail viruses
[06:34] <Slart> kewlguy2: nope.. 8800gtx
[06:34] <AhLiFiQiR> hello
[06:34] <kewlguy2> ah... hmmmmm
[06:35] <lazy247x> but still why cant I run it.. its bugging me
[06:35] <tuntun> Slart: ahh, so it does... but not a wide search...
[06:35] <samuel> tja
[06:35] <AhLiFiQiR> how can i change the ident for ubuntu xchat?
[06:35] <samuel> tja
[06:35] <samuel> ngn här?
[06:35] <Jack_Sparrow> lazy247x: But you understand there is no need for antivirus in Linux/ubuntu
[06:35] <ljsmithx> :'(
[06:35] <Slart> tuntun: "wide search" ??
[06:35] <Slart> !english | samuel
[06:35] <ubotu> samuel: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[06:35] <ljsmithx> that doesn't work either
[06:35] <nickrud> AhLiFiQiR, click your nick next to the text box you enter text in
[06:35] <samuel> oh sorry
[06:35] <tuntun> AhLiFiQiR: drag the grey line?
[06:35] <Slart> !swedish | samuel
[06:35] <ubotu> samuel: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[06:35] <lazy247x> I know ..
[06:35] <the7thmagus> ljsmithx: you don't see any icons when you navigate to "Desktop" in nautilus?
[06:35] <tuntun> AhLiFiQiR: i thought it said "indent"...
[06:35] <samuel> how can i play cs without lag on ubuntu?
[06:36] <level1> nixternal: I'm managed to mount ~/.kde on a ramdisk.  If someone else wants to do the same thing, I could write a instruction manual... where can I put the instructions so that other people can find them?
[06:36] <bigbruno> hi everybody
[06:36] <samuel> hi
[06:36] <lazy247x> but my main point is that I cant run the program?
[06:36] <xange> whenever I try and run Planner in X I get an error - "Adding client to server's list failed, CORBA error" - I created a new user and it I don't get the error for the new user? How can I resolve the issue for my current user?
[06:36] <ljsmithx> I have a wallpaper but no icons... when I goto Places>Desktop nothing happens :(
[06:36] <lazy247x> because of GTK runtimes
[06:36] <santri> ipunk
[06:36] <Slart> kewlguy2: that might be it.. I don't know if the ubuntu driver has support for the gts cards yet
[06:36] <nixternal> level1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community  <-- make a page on there
[06:36] <kewlguy2> Slart: should i try the nvidia beta driver?
[06:36] <ljsmithx> I can't even right click
[06:36] <loodjuret> good morning
[06:36] <tuntun> Slart: "wide search"...booo=bookmarks,applications,indexed files etc.
[06:36] <Jack_Sparrow> lazy247x: It is best to stay in the official repos expecially if you are new to linux
[06:37] <LuYu> is there some way to reset the usb system when it locks/crashes?
[06:37] <Slart> kewlguy2: perhaps check the nvidia forums for some info.. there might be some ubuntu people there
[06:37] <Slart> tuntun: ah.. ok.. I get it.. no it doesn't
[06:37] <loodjuret> anyone here knows where to find more dictionaries for the preinstalled ubuntu/gnome dictionary? need swedish to english
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> lazy247x: YOu are running into a dependency problem..  to fix it you must install the required pieces that will make your package work.
[06:37] <lazy247x> I tryed jack
[06:38] <the-erm> Has anyone here ever set up 3 monitors on 2 videocards?
[06:38] <ljsmithx> some ub3r 1337 h4x0r has stolen my icons lol
[06:38] <lazy247x> I run the dev GTK installed the Lib -- but the only runtimes I can find is in win32
[06:38] <Jack_Sparrow> lazy247x: If you go outside the official repos to install the dependencies you stand a good chance of messing things up during an update or upgrade.
[06:38] <Slart> ljsmithx: try restarting nautilus.. I think it handles the icons
[06:39] <Filled-Void> Can I install fonts by copying them over to the window I get by using gksudo nautilus :fonts
[06:39] <lazy247x> thats ok.. im learning
[06:39] <ljsmithx> ok
[06:39] <ljsmithx> I'll reboot and see what happens??
[06:39] <the7thmagus> Filled-Void: yes, I think that's how I've done it before
[06:39] <lazy247x> this is the error i get.. hang on
[06:39] <Slart> ljsmithx: can you start a terminal?
[06:39] <Filled-Void> Cause when I do the above I get the error Conky: can't load font 'weather:size=42' on running conky
[06:39] <ljsmithx> yes
[06:39] <ljsmithx> I done a cd home
[06:40] <Filled-Void> thank you the7thmagus . Maybe I have to reboot. will reboot and try then
[06:40] <Slart> ljsmithx: then run "nautilus" from the terminal
[06:40] <ljsmithx> k
[06:40] <Jack_Sparrow> lazy247x: Someone else can help you.....
[06:40] <teimu> can I used icons from the human theme in my application? (im intending to licence under GPL)
[06:40] <ljsmithx> ahhhhhhh
[06:40] <ljsmithx> (nautilus:6886): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[06:40] <ljsmithx> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[06:40] <ljsmithx> Initializing gnome-mount extension
[06:41] <Dingbat> Question:  Since upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 -- seems Java is wonky.  I can't get Azureus to work (which is Java-based) and can't use a java-based game (Tickettoride).
[06:41] <Slart> ljsmithx: the sound of a satisfied, now with icons, ubuntu user? =)
[06:41] <Dingbat> How do I fix it?
[06:41] <ljsmithx> umm no icons lol!
[06:41] <ljsmithx> But I can right click!
[06:41] <ljsmithx> and create folders
[06:41] <stdin> !away > m1ke_away
[06:41] <ljsmithx> ahhh
[06:42] <Slart> ljsmithx: you could try restarting gnome.. ctrl+alt+backspace ...it'll kill xchat though
[06:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > ljsmithx
[06:42] <ljsmithx> I know sorry guys
[06:42] <ljsmithx> br
[06:42] <ljsmithx> b
[06:42] <rkj> who maintains the Synaptic Package Manager? I have found some problems with packages there.
[06:42] <Dingbat> Question:  Since upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 -- seems Java was somewhat clobbered.  I can't get Azureus to work (which is Java-based) and can't use a java-based game (Tickettoride).
[06:43] <Slart> rkj: why not talk to the person that maintains the packages themselves
[06:43] <ljsmithx> Its gone again :(
[06:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Dingbat: HAve you tried reinstalling java
[06:43] <teimu> Dingbat, I had that problem too. Try downloading jdk (which will include jre) from sun.java.com and building it from source. You'll get a bin file that you have to chmod +x, then ./thatbinfile
[06:43] <Slart> ljsmithx: ok.. try a reboot then.. might be something else that's borked
[06:44] <santri_> ipunk
[06:44] <stdin> rkj: if you find a bug report it in launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[06:44] <ljsmithx> yeah lol, I'm not that woried. If this happend on a windows system it would eb a super virus that you pay a technician $50 an hour just to fix. Thanks for your help guys! BRB Reboot
[06:45] <rkj> Slart generally how would I know that?
[06:45] <rkj> stdin do you report package installation problems ther? I'll have a look thanks
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> rjs: Is it a problem with a package or the package manager which it itself a program/app
[06:46] <Slart> rkj: isn't there a button to see info about a package? perhaps properties or something... you can use "apt-cache show packagename" in a terminal too... there's supposed to be a maintainer there with an email-address
[06:46] <stdin> rkj: yes, bugs against the app and especially against the packaging of an app
[06:47] <musikgoat> generally, how long does a dd copy take on 80GB ata-133 drive?
[06:47] <ljsmithx> OMG I FREKING LOVE YOU GUYS!
[06:47] <Jack_Sparrow> musikgoat: depending on the system   up to 2 hours
[06:47] <ljsmithx> w00tdigity dog!
[06:48] <ljsmithx> Desktop icons FTW!
[06:48] <musikgoat> Jack_Sparrow: thanks for the heads up... just didn't want to cancel it without having an idea
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:48] <Slart> ljsmithx: breathe..  calm... think of puppies and green grass in the summer..
[06:48] <teimu> can I used icons from the human theme in my application? (im intending to licence under GPL)
[06:48] <ljsmithx> ahhh
[06:49] <the7thmagus> is it possible to create a link to folders on a FAT32 drive?
[06:49] <Slart> ljsmithx: can't have people climbing on the walls just because they got their icons back.. now can we? =)
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> musikgoat: The process can be sped up by increasing the size of the chunks....
[06:49] <ljsmithx> Yes!
[06:49] <ljsmithx> I'm going to set someones lawn on fire on celerbration
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> teimu: I think you can as along as it is open
[06:49] <ljsmithx> woot
[06:49] <Oli``> teimu: they're the tango icons aren't they?
[06:50] <teimu> Oli``, you know, I actually looked at the Tango Icons, and I couldn't find the icons that I've chosen in there. Maybe I wasn't looking at the full tango set
[06:50] <Oli``> teimu: http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Library
[06:50] <ljsmithx> Now that I sorta know how to fix this problem, I can help others out! And Ubuntu keeps going on!
[06:50] <teimu> thanks Oli``, ill check that out
[06:51] <Jack_Sparrow> ljsmithx: Welcome to Ubuntu
[06:51] <ljsmithx> :)
[06:52] <Oli``> teimu: but tango is licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License Agreement, so you're just bound to that, really... if that is the correct set, download the archive and look at COPYING for guidelines on how you can and can't use them
[06:52] <kewlguy2> how do i go into text only at start up.. i think i screw up the xorg settings
[06:52] <omar> Guys do you know any good software for burning CD images?
[06:53] <Oli``> omar: k3b
[06:53] <Jack_Sparrow> omar: right click and write to disk
[06:53] <ljsmithx> I'm sort feel weird having a working OS, maybe in the next Ubuntu release, can you make it crash and really bad? Just for the windows people to feel at home :D
[06:53] <ljsmithx> Call it, Puubuntu. Coz its crap ;)
[06:53] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight all
[06:53] <omar> Oli & Jack_Sparrow: Thanx alot! :)
[06:53] <teimu> Oli``, CC works too. thanks for all the information!
[06:53] <ljsmithx> night!
[06:53] <tuntun> ljsmithx: yeah, sure! :\
[06:53] <ljsmithx> Thanks
[06:53] <Oli``> ljsmithx: yeah I've been longing for a big fat blue-screen-of-death for a while now
[06:54] <elkbuntu> ljsmithx, we know you're happy, but please lets not get silly
[06:54] <ljsmithx> awesome
[06:54] <kewlguy2> how do i go into text only at start up.. i think i screw up the xorg settings
[06:54] <ljsmithx> Ok sorry.
[06:54] <firenx> kewlguy2, just ctrl+alt+f1 once it boots
[06:54] <firenx> then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:54] <Oli``> kewlguy2: control+alt+f5 will bring you up a terminal
[06:54] <firenx> edit xorg
[06:54] <firenx> and restart it
[06:55] <firenx> er isnt there a failsafe for configuring xorg now?
[06:55] <Oli``> firenx: there's supposed to be but it never works for me =)
[06:55] <counterpoint>   hello
[06:55] <ljsmithx> hello
[06:55] <firenx> Oli``, heh ok, i kinda remember seeing it once when playing around with a bunk video card that would only work in 2d
[06:57] <Oli``> firenx: BulletproofX is the name of it... Looks great on paper/when it works
[06:57] <firenx> Oli``, cool.. oh well my hardware works so i dont have to deal with that heh
[06:57] <counterpoint>  where or how  can the pnpboios  be turn off ;----- can anyone help me
[06:58] <ljsmithx> OMG Guys. I just thought of something!
[06:58] <Oli``> Me too, it's past my bedtime
[06:59] <Oli``> counterpoint: in the bios, surely?
[06:59] <ljsmithx> I know IRC is a great community. But why doesn't Ubuntu bring out their own messaging service?!!!?1 Like MSN but better!
[06:59] <ljsmithx> Like instant messaging
[06:59] <Slart> ljsmithx: because we already have irc?
[06:59] <musikgoat> freenode is great
[07:00] <Oli``> ljsmithx: because IRC is an accepted protocol and freenode hosts almost all the open source projects that go into Ubuntu. it just makes a ton of sense to keep using it
[07:00] <ljsmithx> Yeah but for those who don't know how to use irc
[07:00] <Nasari> Pardon me, what packets would I need to run KDE?
[07:00] <ljsmithx> Ohh kay then
[07:00] <Slart> ljsmithx: they still have to learn the new instant messenger stuff.. now won't they?
[07:00] <Oli``> Nasari: kde-desktop I think
[07:00] <ljsmithx> Yeah but make it easy
[07:00] <Slart> ljsmithx: irc is hard?
[07:01] <Oli``> ljsmithx: Why not just have a simplified IRC client that automatically connects here?
[07:01] <ljsmithx> lol
[07:01] <ljsmithx> Ok
[07:01] <ottothecow> doesnt xchat do that?
[07:01] <Nostahl> pidgin auto connects here too
[07:01] <Oli``> ottothecow: yeah, think it does
[07:01] <Nasari> all I need is kde desktop?
[07:01] <Nostahl> easy to set up
[07:01] <ottothecow> I'm using it...never had to set it up
[07:01] <ljsmithx> It isnt hard for me just it may be for other people
[07:01] <Slart> Nasari: I think it will pull in the packages you need
[07:01] <Oli``> pidgin IRC blows big meaty chunks though
[07:01] <Nasari> Ah, ok, Thank you!
[07:02] <Slart> Nasari: don't thank me.. thanks apt =)
[07:02] <ljsmithx> apt is a god
[07:02] <Nostahl> some versions of puppy linux have icon's that come on the desktop when you install it that auto connect you to #puppylinux
[07:02] <musikgoat> Oli``: i think it would be better if the plugin's were added and enabled by default
[07:02] <Oli``> Nasari: yes, it's what's called a "metapackage", one which links to lots and lots of subpackages. Handy things for big things like gnome and kde
[07:03] <Nasari> Nice!!! I like that :)
[07:03] <ljsmithx> I might install KDE on this Linux Box
[07:04] <joevandyk> with internet sharing, is it possible to have all my machines be on the same network/subnet?
[07:04] <Nostahl> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50682/          can someone help me figure out why glxinfo | grep direct says Direct rendering : No
[07:04] <Slart> joevandyk: yes
[07:05] <joevandyk> Slart, so if i have an ubuntu box, and it has a wireless nic, and it's also hooked up to the switch, i can get all the machines on the switch an ip on the wireless network?
[07:05] <Evolution2> can someone help me with a external hard drive problem?
[07:05] <Oli``> !ask Evolution2
[07:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask evolution2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:05] <Oli``> Just ask Evolution2. Just ask...
[07:06] <wols> joevandyk: yes but not with NAT, only with bridging
[07:06] <Slart> joevandyk: yes.. I haven't done that particular setup myself but I think it can be done.. without hiring an army of linux consultants =)
[07:06] <Ed_Werder>  Me eat a lot! Me love pancakes!
[07:06] <Evolution2> Oli``: I get this in pastbin http://pastebin.com/d2d4911d4
[07:06] <Ed_Werder>  Ed Werder craves sandwich right now.
[07:06] <Ed_Werder>  I AM SO HUNGRY! Feed the great Ed Werder!
[07:06] <Ed_Werder>  Ed Werder is pretty much da coolest guy ever.
[07:06] <Slart> bye bye Ed
[07:06] <Ed_Werder>  Me eat a lot! Me love pancakes!
[07:06] <Slart> !ops Ed
[07:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops ed - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:06] <Ed_Werder>  Ed Werder is in da building, Ed Werder is in da building.
[07:06] <Ed_Werder>  Ed Werder is pretty much da coolest guy ever.
[07:06] <Ed_Werder>  I am the hungriest person in the world.
[07:06] <Nostahl> wols can you help me figure out why glxinfo | grep direct   gives me Direct Rendering : No
[07:06] <stdin> !ops | Ed_Werder
[07:06] <ubotu> Ed_Werder: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[07:06] <Ed_Werder>  Me eat a lot! Me love pancakes!
[07:06] <Ed_Werder>  Burger Box is da best place to eat for Ed Werder.
[07:06] <nixternal> jeesh, you all are keeping me busy tonight :p
[07:06] <ljsmithx> wtf...
[07:07] <Evolution2> indeed
[07:07] <joevandyk> wols, are you familar with any guides on linux ethernet bridging?  i've got a couple linksys routers acting as ethernet bridges here, guess i forgot that the ubuntu box could do the same
[07:07] <Oli``> Evolution2: NTFS needs to be removed properly otherwise you can suffer data-loss. Do as it says. Mount it in Windows, and remove it using the remove-safely tool. Then is should work,
[07:08] <wols> joevandyk: read the bridging howto
[07:08] <Evolution2> Oli``: sadly I am windows free. linux only
[07:08] <Oli``> So go with the second option it gives you =)
[07:08] <jay_> I made that mistake yesterday
[07:09] <jay_> didn't unmount an external hard drive, and no windows machines around
[07:09] <Oli``> It's a royal PITA but at least you can force your way through it if you need to
[07:10] <Nostahl> !glx
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <wols> !nvidia | Nostahl
[07:10] <ubotu> Nostahl: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:10] <irreducibilis> !myself
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <ljsmithx> Ok, what I ment before is that if Ubuntu had their own IM Client and network, it would be a good way to keep in touch with friends and other ubuntu users with the whole irc thing.
[07:10] <Evolution2> Oli``: ok here what I get with option 2 http://pastebin.com/d144c0d7
[07:11] <Gokee2> Is there a kubuntu version for 64 bit intel?
[07:11] <Oli``> ljsmithx: it *does*... It's called IRC =)
[07:11] <ljsmithx> lol
[07:11] <Slart> Gokee2: I think so, yes
[07:12] <jay_> Am I just missing it or does Xchat not have an option to change fonts sizes ?:(
[07:12] <Oli``> ljsmithx: you can go 1-on-1, start your own channels, send and recieve files...
[07:12] <chuy_max> is there any way to monitor gpu activity?
[07:12] <Nostahl> can someone help me set up direct rendering please
[07:12] <Gokee2> Slart, Really?  WHere?  All I see at the download site is "64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD" as far as 64 bit goes
[07:12] <Slart> jay_: xchat gnome has an option in the preferences menu.. don't know about xchat
[07:12] <jay_> oops found it
[07:12] <chuy_max> Nostahl, checked the wiki already?
[07:12] <Evolution2> Oli``: what do you think?
[07:12] <Nostahl> chuy_max im not sure what i need to look for :)
[07:13] <Senrac> Thanks everyone for the help. I have Ubuntu up and running and using my EVDO card
[07:13] <Oli``> jay_: yeah it's under text box =)
[07:13] <norv> chuy_max: I don't believe so, but X lags are most certainly a sign that it's hit the upper limit
[07:13] <chuy_max> Nostahl, whats your card brand
[07:13] <ljsmithx> I know. But I use MSN to stay in touch of my mates. As much as I hate M$. I would love to switch networks
[07:13] <rkj> I installed gtk-gnutella using the Synaptic Package Mgr in Feisty - but when I run it it says the version is "ancient". Where can I get a more up-to-date version and how to install it?
[07:13] <ljsmithx> Imagine "Go on ImBuntu tonight!"
[07:13] <Nostahl> chuy_max nvidia gforce fx 5200   ( glxinfo | grep direct says Direct rendering : No
[07:13] <Oli``> Evolution2: does your mount point exist? you need to create the directory before you can mount to it
[07:13] <ljsmithx> thats a pretty cool name!
[07:13] <Slart> Gokee2: I think that's the one.. intel or amd might not make any difference
[07:13] <nightangel> can someone help me about Mac-on-Linux please ? i've got a problem lauching the "make" command
[07:13] <Evolution2> ok
[07:13] <chuy_max> !nvidia | Nostahl
[07:13] <ubotu> Nostahl: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:13] <norv> ljsmithx: pidgin handles most everything, though it's kind of lacking in features
[07:14] <Nostahl> chuy_max i already installed the restricted drivers for it
[07:14] <ljsmithx> yeah
[07:14] <noomz> Can I ask about Jahshaka on Ubuntu in this channel?
[07:14] <Oli``> Evolution2: create it as root, eg: sudo mkdir /mnt/Taoufik
[07:14] <Gokee2> Slart, Really?  Ok...  Then why does it say amd instead of just 64 bit?  Also it does not matter that its a dual core right?
[07:14] <ljsmithx> I'm no software developer. So I'm not going to make the project. I just thought it was a ghood idea
[07:15] <Slart> Gokee2: I think it's to give amd some cred for coming out with a 64-bit processor first.. intels 64-bit processors came later.. so to honour amd they still call it amd
[07:15] <Evolution2> thanks a lot Oli``
[07:15] <chuy_max> Nostahl, it has been ages since I installed an Nvidia, what driver are you using?
[07:15] <wols> Slart: intel's came out first but totally different architecture. IA64 vs. x86-64
[07:15] <norv> ljsmithx: ubuntu's own IM client you mean? well that sort of would defeat the point of open source software
[07:15] <cafuego> Gokee2: There is no "just" 64bit.
[07:16] <Slart> Gokee2: dual core or single core.. it's the same.. they removed the smp flavour some time ago, see !smp
[07:16] <nightangel> can someone help me about Mac-on-Linux please ? i've got a problem lauching the "make" command
[07:16] <ljsmithx> I think I should go over the #ubuntu-offtopic to clear the area
[07:16] <noomz> How can I eliminate "Segmentation Fault" from XQueryExtension()?
[07:16] <ljsmithx> norv: I mean it would be on all platforms
[07:16] <Oli``> Evolution2: you will need to give your user account permissions to access the mount point; sudo chown <username> /mnt/Taoufik
[07:16] <Gokee2> Ok thanks :)
[07:16] <Nostahl> chuy_max when i booted up after installing it it asked if i wanted to use a the restricted driver for full 3d acceleration etc so i enabled it and restarted its all working but not direct rendering
[07:16] <cafuego> Gokee2: Thing is, Intel has 64bit CUPs first, but they're completely incompatible with ia32 and amd64 (and cost a lot, and are not particularly fast in the real world)
[07:16] <ljsmithx> brb dinner
[07:17] <Slart> wols: yes.. can't really remember the details.. but I remember it was a way to give amd some credit.. might have read about it on the ubuntu site..
[07:17] <Gokee2> Also one other thing I am a debian user only messed with ubuntu a few times so far..  So can you tell me is there a stable,testing,unstable type tree in ubuntu or just the releases?
[07:17] <Oli``> Yeah Itaniums were rubbish.
[07:17] <Evolution2> Oli``: ok thanks a lot. that makes some sense
[07:17] <Slart> Gokee2: unlike debian, ubuntu releases are frozen, or so to say... you'll have to do a big upgrade in april, when the next version is out
[07:18] <Gokee2> Ok cool
[07:18] <Senrac> How do I resize my HDD Partition
[07:18] <Slart> !gparted | Senrac
[07:18] <ubotu> Senrac: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[07:18] <Oli``> Senrac: use gparted (via synaptic)
[07:19] <chuy_max> Nostahl, what driver says you are using in xorg.conf?
[07:19] <Oli``> Senrac: if you're editing partitions that are mounted at the moment, I suggest you use the Ubuntu LiveCD if you've got it to hand
[07:19] <Nostahl> chuy_max nvidia
[07:20] <laymu> Is there any college students?
[07:20] <Oli``> I'm sure there is
[07:20] <laymu> I am
[07:21] <monkeyguru> if you type /quit then a username, it will kick them off
[07:21] <Senrac> will repartitioning damage the partition?
[07:21] <Slart> monkeyguru: no reason for that kind of stuff
[07:21] <monkeyguru> just kiddin
[07:21] <Slart> Senrac: it shouldn't
[07:21] <xTheGoat121x> What's up folks
[07:21] <Moniker42> monkeyguru, you'll get kicked for that
[07:21] <Senrac> thanks
[07:21] <Moniker42> (if any ops spot, anyway)
[07:22] <Oli``> =D
[07:22] <DeZ_666> DCC SEND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[07:22] <chuy_max> Nostahl, do you have xserver-xgl ?
[07:23] <MTecknology> hu?
[07:23] <MTecknology> what caused the ban?
[07:23] <Nostahl> chuy_max let me double check
[07:23] <chuy_max> Nostahl, if you have it, maybe that's the problem
[07:24] <chuy_max> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=585978 Nostahl
[07:24] <Nostahl> chuy_max it says its already at the newest version
[07:24] <xTheGoat121x> So I'
[07:25] <xTheGoat121x> I've noticed a higher CPU temp and major fluctuations  in Ubuntu than in Win... possible causes?
[07:25] <Moniker42> xTheGoat121x, running compiz?
[07:25] <truna> anyone know of a tool to convert an iptables -vL result into a readable rules ? hard to reconstitute the output of iptables -vL
[07:25] <Nostahl> chuy_max k im removing it
[07:26] <xTheGoat121x> Moniker42, yes.
[07:26] <Slart> xTheGoat121x: windows oriented acpi hardware? limited drivers due to unreleased specs? could be lots of things
[07:26] <Nostahl> chuy_max k i removed xserver-xgl and then did glxinfo | grep direct and it still says direct rendering no
[07:26] <Moniker42> xTheGoat121x, try turning off desktop effects and see if it improves
[07:26] <Moniker42> but a slightly higher CPU temp isn't much to worry about anyway
[07:26] <chuy_max> Nostahl, restart
[07:26] <Nasari> sorry. I don't mean to bother y'all again, but I had another question - I accidentally installed some sort of package manager or something that let me install packages that I downloaded without the complicated console stuff, anyone have any idea what it was
[07:27] <Slart> actually.. desktop effects didn't have any effect on running- on-battery time
[07:27] <Slart> for my laptop
[07:27] <Slart> Nasari: synaptic is installed by  default.. might be that
[07:27]  * MTeck has left
[07:27] <Moniker42> Slart, with wobbly windows and fire writing? :)
[07:27] <Nostahl> chuy_max k
[07:27] <xTheGoat121x> Slart, honestly, I think it has something to do with my ACPI, specificially the DSDT or somesuch...
[07:27] <Nostahl> chuy_max restarting now
[07:28] <wols> Nostahl: dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[07:28] <Slart> Moniker42: ok.. I didn't max it.. but still =)
[07:28] <xTheGoat121x> Moniker42, I'll give that a shot too, but as far as I know, I tried that.
[07:28] <Nasari> Slart: Thanks
[07:29] <ZeeO> hey guys i pluged a usb mp3 player into my computer removed it and now i can't boot into gnome if i put it back in it boots whats the fix
[07:29] <xTheGoat121x> Slart, not much chance of fixing it, though, eh?
[07:30] <Oli``> Wow using the mouse-wheel on a window's frame makes it roll up (forgotten the technical term)!
[07:30] <Oli``> I love finding little gems like that
[07:30] <PurpZeY> ZeeO: Did you eject it properly the first time?
[07:30] <Slart> xTheGoat121x: well.. google.. look in the forums.. people come up with all kinds of tweaks
[07:30] <ZeeO> yes
[07:30] <ZeeO> well when i did that
[07:30] <Nostahl> chuy_max direct rendering Yes woot
[07:30] <ZeeO> the computer rebooted when it booted back up i did't start all the way
[07:31] <xTheGoat121x> Slart, here's hoping that someone will.
[07:31] <ZeeO> it loads a blue screen get mouse
[07:31] <xTheGoat121x> Or that Acer will actually get their act together.
[07:31] <Shai_A> Hello, I'm new to Linux, can anyone tell me how can I safely remove a disk-on-key from my computer, like in Windows?
[07:31] <PurpZeY> ZeeO: What dev is it?
[07:31] <ZeeO> newest ubuntu
[07:31] <harking> anyone know what would cause a small (3 sec) delay after user prompt at a terminal login?
[07:31] <PurpZeY> ZeeO: I mean, what device ID is it showing up as?
[07:31] <harking> (Gutsy)
[07:31] <Oli``> Shai_A: go to Places, Computer, right click the drive and click unmount
[07:31] <ZeeO> o
[07:32] <ZeeO> 1 sec
[07:32] <wols> Shai_A: unmount it, remove it
[07:32] <Nasari> I had another question, i'm not shure if anyone know the music player foobar2000 - but is there a smiler one to that for linux?
[07:32] <PurpZeY> ZeeO: I am thinking it's showing up as a harddrive, perhaps hd1 somehow...You have to unmount it, and then remount your regular hda1
[07:32] <Shai_A> Oli: I unmounted it, but the disk-on-key was still active (I saw that it was powered on)
[07:32] <ZeeO> how can i check for that im in command line you see using bitchx
[07:33] <PurpZeY> Nasari: I use xmms
[07:33] <Oli``> Shai_A: powered doesn't mean active. I think that's as safe as you'll get
[07:33] <Shai_A> Oli: okay, thanks.
[07:33] <Nasari> PurpZeY: ok, thanks
[07:34] <PurpZeY> ZeeO: /dev
[07:34] <oops6_4> Hey guys i have dell vostro and my Sound card is In  Intel Corporation 82801H , Device ID:00:1b  8086:284b (rev 02) which isnt working.  uname -a:  Linux zeroth 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 05:28:27 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux;  cat /etc/issue:  Ubuntu 7.10 \n \l    How do I get it working?  I've tried installing the latest version of alsa-driver, alsa-utils, and alsa-lib (version 1.0.15).
[07:36] <oops6_4> I also find that this directory "/proc/asound/card0" does not exist.  Also, cat /proc/asound/cards enlists no cards.
[07:37] <tuntun> is it possible to select which appslications can and cant be swapped?
[07:37] <platius> oops6_4, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting  have you looked here?
[07:38] <navreet> what's up xTheGoat121x
[07:38] <SuperQ> tuntun: I think there are ways
[07:39] <PurpZeY> Can I ask a theoretical question?
[07:39] <SuperQ> tuntun: but I'm not sure off the top of my head
[07:39] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: of course
[07:39] <tuntun> SuperQ: :|
[07:39] <oops6_4> platius: I've read the wiki but not that page.  I'll read it and return.
[07:39] <SuperQ> tuntun: Personally, I just disable swap :)
[07:39] <sigra> what is a good psp to use find software and files?
[07:39] <sigra> p2p
[07:39] <platius> oops6_4, k
[07:39] <SuperQ> sigra: Synaptic
[07:40] <PurpZeY> Well, devices are identified...like hda1 or eht1....How would I tell what device is what...like, I know my wireless card is wlan0, but it's not in /dev or /dev/net is there a CLI command? or am I missing something ?
[07:40] <interceptor> !ru
[07:40] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[07:40] <simion314> i have ubuntu7.10 and the sound in flash player is not working, i found many fixes on forums but do not work for me. has anyone here had this problem?
[07:40] <xTheGoat121x> navreet, actually just about outta here.
[07:40] <PurpZeY> !flash | simion314
[07:40] <ubotu> simion314: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:40] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[07:40]  * kewlguy2 is frustrated with his ubuntu setup
[07:40] <kewlguy2> it keep reboot into low res mode
[07:40] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: so you've found one of the anoying flaws in the way linux works :)
[07:40] <sigra> no mean like windows has shareprograms ...wanting find one for ubuntu
[07:40] <interceptor> !ru
[07:40] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[07:40] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: there are different tools for differnet device classes
[07:40] <tuntun> SuperQ:  unfortunately theres isnt an consensus on wether swappiness should be increased/decreased/on/off.
[07:40] <sigra> peer to peer sharing
[07:41] <SuperQ> tuntun: I know
[07:41] <SuperQ> tuntun: if you're having problems with a specific app swapping, I would just turn it off
[07:41] <tuntun> SuperQ:  thats what i was thinking.
[07:42] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: Well, I mean, someone was just saying they were having a problem with devices...I was thinking maybe the device in question had become hda1, and i wanted to tell him, well, see if it's hda1, and then if it is unmount it, and find hda1 and then remount hda1....but of course. . .
[07:42]  * MTeck is back
[07:42] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: hrm
[07:42] <juan> suspending my pc will log me out how can i stop this?
[07:43] <Nasari> Thank you everyone for your support!
[07:43]  * Nasari Cheers!
[07:43] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: Or sometimes, from an lspci, I want to see what device a particular card is identified as...is it wlan0 or eth1 etc
[07:43] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: Yea, it's near impossible to answer "my devices are broken" without knowing what "devices" is
[07:43]  * Nasari waves goodbye
[07:43] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: there are lots of tools for listing different things
[07:43] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: Ok, so, let's work particularly....if I run lspci
[07:43] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: lspci is good for PCI devices, lsusb is good for USB devices
[07:44] <greentea> anyone know how to turn off volume limiting in ubuntu?
[07:44] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: "ip addr show" is good for listing network interfaces (which may be virtual)
[07:44] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: Well, I'm just saying on a hypothetical level.
[07:44] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: The ubuntu people have been working on a "devices" GUI tool
[07:44] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: So, now I've got the device via lspci, I see it...The only way to find out what "Device" is to use iwconfig?
[07:45] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: it really really depends on the device
[07:45] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: if it is a wireless card, then iwconfig will help
[07:45] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: if it's regular ethernet, it won't
[07:45] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: Linux is all about using the right tool for the job, not one tool to do every job
[07:45] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: Ok, I got that part...so let's say then instead it's a usb device....external harddrive
[07:46] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: then you have other tools, like hdparm, or fdisk
[07:46] <Learning-Ubuntu> The command nc localhost 7634 returns the error The coost [<IP_ADDRESS>] 7634 (?) : Connection refused . ANy clue on what Im doign wrong here
[07:46] <soldats> greentea, i dont know the exact command but i think you can look through the "xset" man pages via "man xset" in a terminal
[07:46] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: depending on what you want to do with the external (or internal) drive
[07:46] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: Just to identify it to unmount it
[07:47] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: it's much easier with linux to answer "What do you want to do"
[07:47] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: "mount" will list mounted drives
[07:47] <Learning-Ubuntu> er the error was "localhost [<IP_ADDRESS>] 7634 (?) : Connection refused"
[07:47] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: and then you can use "umount /path/drive/is/mounted"
[07:47] <greentea> thanks soldats
[07:47] <greentea> i'll take a look
[07:47] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: Ok, mount, that makes sense, I think that's the command I was looking for
[07:47] <soldats> cool
[07:47] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: but it may require root privileges to unmount, unless it was mounted by the GUI automounter
[07:48] <Flannel> Learning-Ubuntu: what are you trying to listen to on port 7634?
[07:48] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: the GUI automounter provides a right-click unmount option
[07:48] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: which gets access via special system feature
[07:48] <Learning-Ubuntu> Flannel, Well my conky configurations is erroring out on the command and I believe it si the hard disk parameters
[07:48] <SuperQ> (dbus if you're curious)
[07:48] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: But, if, just for example in this last case, somehow this USB drive is getting mounted as hda1, it's going to require CLI
[07:49] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: It shouldn't require it if the GUI auto-mounts it
[07:49] <Learning-Ubuntu> Flannel, Here is a copy of my conky script if it will help http://pastebin.com/m797cfe9b
[07:49] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: but CLI is one way to be sure
[07:50] <SuperQ> :)
[07:50] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: So would unmounting it force the machine down/
[07:50] <SuperQ> no
[07:50] <SuperQ> it should not
[07:50] <SuperQ> unless hda1 is the root filesystem :)
[07:50] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: At this point it's all academic...I am just curious...The guy said he had a USB device when he ejected it, it rebooted his system and now his system wouldn't boot without it present
[07:51] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: So my thought was that somehow it got mounted as the filesystem.
[07:51] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: hrm
[07:51] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: It's possible he added it to fstab
[07:51] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: which means it may block booting
[07:51] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: see, it's MUCH easier to help if you just state the actual problem ;)
[07:52] <soldats> greentea, actually i could have swore that it was in the man pages but i guess not i just looked to try to figure it out sorry, ill look again somewhere or you should try google
[07:52] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: And by added to fstab, it's easy to do in the GUI
[07:52] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: There was no 'actual problem' here...I was just sort of making it up from a composite of things I tried to help people with.
[07:52] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: It would be easy to fix via editing the /etc/fstab file
[07:52] <Learning-Ubuntu> Flannel, Here is the command that nc uses echo "$(nc localhost 7634 | cut -d'|' -f4)" This was in a hdd monitoring script
[07:52] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: then the disk would not be required for boot
[07:52] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: ok. that makes sense.
[07:53] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: Sometimes people have problems, and I "see" the solution, but I don't know the implementation
[07:54] <greentea> soldats, yeah i didn't see anything about volume there...google is turning up nothing
[07:54] <soldats> yea i guess just keep looking ill try as well
[07:55] <francis> hi could someone please help me with my postfix problem . I spent days trying to figure this out without any solution . I have postfix working accepting mails for hosted domains but I cant sent mails for hosted domains !! Please HElpp
[07:55] <wols> francis: what error(s)?
[07:56] <francis> wols i get a RCPT access denied
[07:56] <francis> the funny thing is I can receive mails for hosted domains
[07:57] <kickin> jhsf
[07:57] <wols> that's not an error message
[07:57] <firenx> why does ubuntu have klogd and sysklogd both activated? do they do something different? (just looking in services settings)
[07:58] <wols> userspace logs, kernel logs
[07:58] <firenx> ah ok
[07:59] <francis> wols:  how do i get postfix to behave
[07:59] <wols> by telling us the error message first?
[07:59] <Q_Continuum_> For some reason, when my laptop (Dell E1505N - Ubuntu 7.04 preloaded, upgraded to 7.10) hits 'low battery power' it just powers off, rather than hibernate - which is what it is set to do. (hibernate, not hard-power off)
[08:00] <francis> wols: hold on
[08:00] <JLappy> does anyone know of a good keylogger for linux?
[08:00] <wols> JLappy: no. please don't ask such questions in here
[08:00] <JLappy> why not? i don't want it for malicious purposes, just for my own records
[08:00] <PurpZeY> Q_Continuum_: I understand this is not a fix for your problem but it has been my experience that hibernate really doesn't work all that well.
[08:01] <wols> JLappy: yeah right....
[08:01] <JLappy> seriously
[08:01] <wols> JLappy: go away
[08:01] <preaction> JLappy, far easier to get one of those little appliances that attach to PS/2 cables
[08:01] <tuntun> JLappy: is there any legitimate use for a keylogger?
[08:01] <Q_Continuum_> PurpZeY, if I manually force it into hibernation (hit the power button) it works 100% fine.
[08:01] <francis> wols:  give me a minute . Will put it up on pastbin
[08:01] <Q_Continuum_> tuntun: corporate ownership of a machine.
[08:01] <PurpZeY> Q_Continuum_: The GUI is set to hibernate at no battery?
[08:02] <preaction> tuntun, you could get some interesting usage stats about what you do on the computer
[08:02] <Q_Continuum_> PurpZeY Power Management is set to hibernate at 'low battery' - I can't specify what 'low battery' is
[08:02] <JLappy> tuntun: just to look back at things i should have saved and didn't
[08:02] <JimmyDee> ompaul ompaul ompaul!
[08:02] <wols> Q_Continuum_: if you can't trust even they input of your employee why would you employ him?
[08:02] <wols> *the
[08:02] <Q_Continuum_> tuntun: secure machine, or for root access logging.
[08:02] <kiki7> hallo @ all
[08:02] <tuntun> !hi
[08:02] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:02] <kiki7> is somebody here who can help me ?!
[08:03] <Q_Continuum_> wols: Try asking the NSA what they do for their uber-computers.  Or a beyond-top-secret machine.
[08:03] <PurpZeY> Q_Continuum_: Right, got it...
[08:03] <tonsofpcs> how do I restart udevd properly?
[08:03] <bullgard4> "$ uname -r; 2.6.22-14-generic." Why do I have two directories /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS> and /linux-source-2.6.22  having almost the same contents on my Ubuntu 7.10 computer?
[08:03] <wols> tonsofpcs: /etc/init.d/udev restart?
[08:03] <Q_Continuum_> If I'm ultra-parinoid about the contents of the machine, I'm going to take EVERY possible safeguard for that data.
[08:03] <tonsofpcs> yup, thanks wols :)
[08:03] <kiki7> I have a problem with my soundblaster live! 5.1 plantinum :S
[08:03] <wols> bullgard4: dpkg -S <file> is your friend
[08:04] <kiki7> can somebody help me ?!
[08:04] <francis> wols: http://pastebin.ca/841105
[08:04] <wols> Q_Continuum_: then clearly a software for keylogging is the wrong approach
[08:04] <greentea> what's your problem kiki
[08:04] <tonsofpcs> bullgard4: one is 2.6.22, one is <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:04] <Q_Continuum_> wols: how so?  Why can't it be part of a multi-layered approach?
[08:04] <francis> I can receive mails for chip-india.com
[08:04] <wols> greentea:his problem is, he can't do a proper error description to ask for help
[08:04] <PurpZeY> Q_Continuum_: I am using a script to override my power-settings. . .So, I know it can be done
[08:04] <bullgard4> tonsofpcs: I noticed a difference in the numbers. But can you elaborate.
[08:05] <Q_Continuum_> why would I trust a *single* piece of hardware/software to log activity on a system?  Why not have 5, so if one fails, I have 4 still working.
[08:05] <kiki7> greentea : I try to get surround with this card, the drivers seem to be installed properly but I can't hear anything. The boxes are installed but theres no sound
[08:05] <tonsofpcs> no, not really
[08:05] <zoink_> i just created a raid-5 with 3 drives using mdadm, one of the drives is listed as "spare rebuilding", is this normal? :/
[08:05] <wols> francis: whoever tries to send the mail, is that host in the same network?
[08:06] <greentea> kiki7, does your card have a digital/analog switch?  you might have a hardware switch on the speakers as well as a software switch when you double-click the speaker icon
[08:06] <francis> wols: no the clients are in a different network !! the server2 is at the datacenter
[08:06] <wols> francis: your mynetworks= setting is either wrong or probably doesn't have all needed networks
[08:06] <wols> francis: you will need SMTPD auth then
[08:07] <francis> wols: give me a minute . shall look up mynetwork
[08:07] <francis> *mynetworks
[08:08] <kiki7> when i doubleclick the headphone icon, there's a software switch, where i can change the volume of the master, the bass, the highs and the middles... I tried to activate surround, but there is no  choice marked surround or anything else. I'm using the ALSA mixer :S
[08:08] <wols> Q_Continuum_: you cannot police a machine with a process running on that machine. not possible
[08:08] <wols> Q_Continuum_: for the same reason desktop firewalls or av programs are snakeoil
[08:09] <wols> francis: since you're trying to send via the MTA from outside it's network, smtpd auth is the only sensible choice
[08:09] <Q_Continuum_> wols: so a rootkit wouldn't work?
[08:09] <francis> wols:  yea  i was just coming to that
[08:09] <soldats> greentea, so what exactly happened with volume
[08:10] <francis> as i need authentication for outgoing mails
[08:10] <wols> rootkit working for what?
[08:10] <simion314> the open implementation for flash plugin are working? can it be used?
[08:10] <greentea> kiki7, i suggest going into edit > preferences, enabling everything, then pushing all the volumes all the way up.  also, read http://ubuntu-unleashed.blogspot.com/2007/10/get-better-sound-in-ubuntu-with-brand.html and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=651140
[08:10] <wols> simion314: for small values of "working"
[08:10] <francis> could you please point me in some direction for smtp auth . I have courier for pop auth
[08:11] <greentea> soldats, i can't find information anywhere on the volume limiting.  i'm pretty sure it's a system setting rather than for instance just gstreamer, because it seems to affect everything
[08:11] <wols> francis: http://www.postfix.org/docs.html
[08:11] <simion314> n i install an older flash player that works? if the bug is in the flash and not in ubuntu or the browsers then it should work
[08:12] <simion314> Can i?
[08:12] <wols> simion314: the bug is in the ubuntu packages
[08:12] <francis> hey !! finally found it . was looking for this page for some time now
[08:12] <wols> well but might be misleading actually
[08:12] <wols> !flash | simion314
[08:12] <ubotu> simion314: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:12] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[08:12] <soldats> greentea, so all your volume is really low or way too high?
[08:13] <bullgard4> wols: "$ dpkg -S /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>/; dpkg: /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>/ nothing found." Tell me please why you told me that " dpkg -S <file> is your friend."
[08:13] <wols> file. not directory
[08:13] <soldats> ha
[08:13] <kiki7> thank you very much.. ill try it greentea .. ill let you know if its the right solution yeah?
[08:14] <bullgard4> wols: I put here a question about direcotries. You told me something about files. Did you misunderstand my question?
[08:14] <Ghita> Bonjour tout le monde
[08:14] <greentea> soldats, the problem is that my volume seems to be limited beyond a certain point.  even turning up the hardware nob does not increase the output, just the noise, as if ubuntu is artificially limiting it.  in windows, this isn't a problem.
[08:15] <tuntun> !french
[08:15] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:15] <soldats> greentea, wow, thats odd. im going to continue looking into it
[08:16] <wols> bullgard4: no I did not. maybe you should read more documentation about dpkg to see what -S does
[08:20] <bullgard4> wols: I have read dpkg --help. It says: "Use 'dselect' or 'aptitude' for user-friendly package management.  --  How can I use Synaptic to answer the question why I do have two directories /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS> and /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22  having almost the same contents although I have got only one kernel to boot?
[08:21] <preaction> bullgard4, because those are the sources of two kernels, you only have one compiled kernel available in your grub configuration
[08:21] <wols> I told you to look up what -S does. --help is not really documentation btw. manpages are
[08:21] <soldats> man dpkg
[08:22]  * Zkline waves?  "Hiya...I just installed Ubuntu 7.10 on my laptop and am having a problem with the keyboard."
[08:22] <soldats> greentea, did you try doing 'alsamixer' in a terminal and turning everything up
[08:24] <greentea> soldats, yeah.  i've tried using oss instead of alsa, tried a different backend (xine instead of gstreamer), tried cranking every setting i could find...
[08:24] <simon____> when will flash be working again?
[08:24] <jaime> Can linux ruin laptop internal?
[08:24] <simon____> this was a long break...
[08:24] <|ns|nR8> no jaime
[08:24] <greentea> jaime, are you talking about a specific piece of hardware?
[08:25] <jaime> sony vaio laptop
[08:25] <jaime> professional computer tech says only sony can write driver for vaio laptops
[08:25] <bullgard4> preaction: How can I determine if /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>/ or /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22 is the source of my only compiled kernel 2.6.22-14-generic?
[08:25] <greentea> professional support is stupid, apparently
[08:25] <soldats> greentea, this site had something that may help but im way too tired to pay attention http://sysblogd.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/ubuntu-enable-sound-with-feisty-fawn-and-via-82xx-aka-ac97/
[08:25] <jaime> Yes and that is my brother
[08:25] <Zkline> Might anybody have any idea why I can't use three keys at the same time on my laptop?  I'm blind, and so using keyboard shortcuts is pretty near essential for me.  ctrl+alt+tab doesn't work to move focus to the Gnome panel as it should.
[08:25] <scguy318> jaime: what's your questino?
[08:25] <jaime> theres an battery issue, then i told him linux works great
[08:25] <|ns|nR8> jaime it cant phsically damage it
[08:26] <soldats> greentea, sorry but i gotta sleep ill look more into it tomorrow
[08:26] <greentea> soldats, thanks for your efforts, have a good one
[08:26] <preaction> bullgard4, i expect linux-source-2.6.22 is the source of your compiled kernel, but don't quote me. neither are necessary to keep, since it's already compiled. there's no real way to tell, but you could guess
[08:26] <greentea> jaimie, operating systems are just software, they can't do anything physically to your system except some rather minor things
[08:26] <jaime> people please write the answere of my quetion
[08:26] <King-Buntu> Anyone know why conly is coming up with the letter A before my temperatures . Example it displays 45 A oC
[08:26] <jaime> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=657904
[08:27] <jaime> please reply there
[08:27] <|ns|nR8> no
[08:27] <jaime> I do believe overclocking using a software in windows can damage a laptop
[08:27] <bullgard4> preaction: Thank you very much for explaining.
[08:27] <|ns|nR8> writing to your bios can damage it aswell
[08:28] <jaime> but i totally don't agree my brother even if he is a tech he is just not linux smart
[08:28] <|ns|nR8> motherboard and videocard bios
[08:28] <greentea> jaimie, i thinky our brother might have read the problem with ubuntu and laptop harddrives, where ubuntu can make them load/unload too much
[08:29] <jaime> I don't know, i don't know if he even tried linux, he said he has, he did had alot of linux books
[08:29] <jaime> but sony is a company that you can not use other people driver, because it is modified
[08:30] <jaime> yet linux is an opensource
[08:30] <greentea> i had a vaio, they work fine with linux
[08:30] <greentea> it's just like any other computer
[08:30] <greentea> if a driver doesn't work, it doesn't work
[08:30] <jaime> yup
[08:31] <jaime> mine everything works
[08:31] <eckesicle> Hello all. I have a slight problem. Some douchebag issued a move command with an empty variable and a * in it...
[08:31] <jaime> just upset me that my brother being an asshole because i got rid of windows
[08:31] <eckesicle> meaning most of the system has been moved to
[08:31] <eckesicle>  /some/path/
[08:31] <jaime> yet he doesn't know that i didn't entire errase my windows xp yet its just dual booting
[08:31] <scguy318> eckesicle: so mv -R /some/path /old/location?
[08:32] <jaime> ok at open arena, my sound cracks
[08:32] <eckesicle> scguy318, yeah well mv: command not found
[08:32] <chazco> Hi... i've got a Samsung F700... is it possible to sync this with Gusty via USB/bluetooth?
[08:32] <greentea> scguy318, unless there is other stuff in the location...
[08:32] <jaime> but other games works just fine whats the problem?
[08:32] <eckesicle> actually I even get /usr/bin/command-not-found: no such file
[08:32] <scguy318> greentea: oh, true
[08:32] <scguy318> eckesicle: /some/path/bin/mv ...
[08:32] <greentea> eckesicle, did you move the contents of your /bin/ folder?!
[08:32] <eckesicle> scguy318, and /some/path/bin/mv doesn't work either.
[08:33] <eckesicle> greentea, not me, but i have to clean up the mess
[08:33] <jaime> NEED HELP, OPEN ARENA SOUND DO CRACKING SOUND, yet other games does not
[08:33] <greentea> are you using root to execute mv?
[08:33] <scguy318> eckesicle: so where was it moved?
[08:34] <scguy318> eckesicle: what from where to where?
[08:34] <wols> jaime: your keyboard is broken too
[08:34] <King-Buntu> lol
[08:34] <eckesicle> from / to /path
[08:34] <greentea> wols, i love you
[08:34] <jaime> LOL
[08:34] <jaime> just fn LOL
[08:34] <King-Buntu> jaime, OpenArena has a few bugs under launchpad for sound issues By any chance are you on a 64 bit install ?
[08:34] <ZeeO> PurpZeY you still here
[08:34] <jaime> no
[08:34] <jaime> its a centrino cpu
[08:35] <scguy318> eckesicle: so /path/bin/mv doesn't work?
[08:35] <eckesicle> nope
[08:35] <ZeeO> im still having this issue with gnome not booting all the way after unpluging usb drive
[08:35] <alyxander> hey anyone around?
[08:35] <eckesicle> no such file or directory
[08:35] <alyxander> im having trouble with emeral themes
[08:35] <eckesicle> but i can cd to it
[08:36] <francis> wols: i came across this http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html
[08:36] <alyxander> svn ls https://svn.generation.no/emerald-themes
[08:36] <eckesicle> to the directory and doubletab to get a list of contents and i see it there
[08:36] <wols> ZeeO: how far is it booting exactly?
[08:36] <jaime> anybody plays open arena?
[08:36] <lazy247x_> how do i get rid of my mount on windows on boot-up
[08:36] <alyxander> and i get cannt  connect to server
[08:36] <kenryu> hey
[08:36] <scguy318> eckesicle: is mv inside it? and is the path your cwd?
[08:36] <francis> but it talks about adding a network
[08:36] <ZeeO> gets to login screen i login then i get my background kind of and mouse
[08:36] <scguy318> eckesicle: ./mv ...?
[08:36] <alyxander> #compiz
[08:36] <|ns|nR8> lazy247x, you dont want your windows partition mounted in linux ?
[08:37] <francis> could you point me in some direction when i could find docs about smtp auth wols
[08:37] <eckesicle> scguy318, tried and doesn't work
[08:37] <lazy247x_> thats right
[08:37] <|ns|nR8> open terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[08:37] <lazy247x_> i dont want it mounted untill i mount it
[08:37] <|ns|nR8> and remove the lines with ntfs
[08:37] <King-Buntu> jaime, My install only works for about 5 - 10 minutes. I was recommended an update which I dont have the time to do. You could find better help in the #OpenArena channel I guess?
[08:37] <alyxander> ok one more time i run svn ls https://svn.generation.no/emerald-themes and i get an error that it cannot connect to server
[08:37] <lazy247x_> if thats makes any sinces
[08:37] <|ns|nR8> thats if their ntfs
[08:38] <alyxander> what am i doing wrong
[08:38] <jaime> lol
[08:38] <jaime> 4 people only
[08:38] <ZeeO> wols can you do me the bigest fav in the world and google it im stuck in command line
[08:38] <loodjuret> I need some help with the ubuntu preinstalled dictionary (appl -> access -> dictionary)
[08:38] <ZeeO> and text based google sucks
[08:38] <scguy318> eckesicle: ok, um, er, dunno chroot, however silly that might be
[08:38] <wols> ZeeO: google what?
[08:38] <scguy318> eckesicle: or perform the move from outside the system I guess
[08:38] <ZeeO> umm gnome not booting after removing usb drive
[08:38] <wols> !doesntwork
[08:38] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[08:39] <eckesicle> command not found
[08:39] <wols> ZeeO: I won't run silly google searches. check your xsession-errors
[08:39] <eckesicle> but come'on there has to be a better way
[08:39] <ZeeO> if i plug the usb drive in it boots just fine
[08:39] <dandre> hello,
[08:39] <ZeeO> thing is the drive is not at my place no more
[08:39] <ZeeO> its a buddys mp3 player
[08:40] <greentea> ZeeO, did you put something on the drive?  like your home folder?
[08:40] <dandre> I don't remember which channel is for compiz discussion
[08:40] <ZeeO> lol no
[08:40] <ZeeO> draged some mp3s to it
[08:40] <ZeeO> thats about it
[08:40] <neil_d> I am trying to get xinetd vnc and gutsy to work together, the best I can get at the moment is a vncviewer window pops up for about 1 second then disappears.  What is wrong ?
[08:40] <level1> once I log into the ubuntu website, I can't seem to load any page on help.ubuntu.com... it just doesn't load.  This seems to be the case with konqueror, firefox, and even windows firefox
[08:40] <jaime> who is buffsabre666
[08:41] <level1> Every time I log in, I get redirected to a UserPreferences page, and from there, I can't load anything else
[08:41] <bluefoxx> HELP!!!i was just on msn and the convo got hacked!!
[08:41] <scguy318> eckesicle: I wish I could help further, I'm out of ideas :(
[08:41] <King-Buntu> level1, You can access other websites?
[08:41] <scguy318> bluefoxx: hacked how?
[08:41] <greentea> ZeeO, have you checked your fstab and mtab files to make sure the drive isn't listed there, as well as making sure GNOME isn't trying to restore a session with the drive opened in nautilus?
[08:41] <jaime> LOL @ Bluefoxx
[08:41] <level1> King-Buntu: yeah
[08:42] <greentea> i wonder if another desktop would boot for you
[08:42] <King-Buntu> level1, When I have similar some pages dont load issues I switch to OpenDNS and it tends to fix it
[08:42] <level1> King-Buntu: how do I switch to opendns?
[08:42] <King-Buntu> level1, Wait a second Im reading your second line
[08:42] <lazy247x_> if i go into fstab and remove the windows part.. how can i mount it if i wanted 2?
[08:43] <level1> King-Buntu: hmm... it seems to be working now
[08:43] <King-Buntu> lol
[08:43] <bluefoxx> i was talking to my g/f and sudddenly there were a bunch of un-farmiliar ppl in the conversation, i googled the adresses and got nothing whatsoever, ghost accounts
[08:43] <bluefoxx> and yes i know hotmail sux, but its how i help my friends with theyr problems, keeping me sane
[08:43] <|ns|nR8> lazy247x_ try google
[08:43] <King-Buntu> Well then all is well
[08:43] <icesword> telnet ftp.ubuntu.org.cn
[08:43] <greentea> aw, how cute...bluefoxx wants us to think he has a girlfriend
[08:43] <eckesicle> scguy318, thx anyways
[08:43] <jaime> can anybody help me to get fn working to bright my screen and control volume
[08:44] <lazy247x_> is there a program or a way i can not have it mounted on boot-up windows??
[08:44] <simion314> ubotu: i reinstalled that flsh plugin and now it crashes firefox, i need just a working .so file for 32 bits, maybe i can compile from source
[08:45] <Logix_> Hello
[08:45] <icesword> lazy247x_, what is your problem?
[08:45] <greentea> lazy247x_, you can just use pmount to mount the drive after you remove it from fstab
[08:45] <King-Buntu> simion314, ubotu is a bot . He recommends a thread which contains a fix for 32 bti which isnt exactly recommended but should help in most cases
[08:45] <wyggler2> 7.1 install is seeing ide(pata) drives as scsi.  Google tells me this is now the norm(kernel change yadda...) Is this correct?
[08:45] <greentea> or, you can set it as a bookmark in nautilus, then remove it from your fstab, and then you can mount and unmount it through nautilus as you wish
[08:46] <Flannel> wyggler2: yes
[08:46] <greentea> wyggler2, yeah that's right
[08:46] <jaime> does anybody have a sony vaio with fn button working?
[08:46] <wyggler2> cool.  thanks.
[08:46] <SOUL> :)
 thx :-) i do not know that
[08:47] <n1mda> hi guys
[08:47] <greentea> jaime, try installing spicctrl
[08:47] <Filled-Void> simion314, In the thread it has the instructions with both 64 and 32 bit fixes make sure you install the right one. if you dont have the thread /msg ubotu flash it should help
[08:47] <icesword> what command to use to users on a system?
[08:48] <greentea> hey n1mda
[08:48] <icesword>  what command to use to see users on a system
[08:48] <Flannel> icesword: users
[08:48] <chayak> hi nlmda
[08:48] <n1mda> was just wondering, anyone of you how'd I go about to open a .bin file? :)
[08:48] <icesword> yes,Flannel
[08:48] <jaime> ok
[08:48] <Flannel> icesword: users is the command
[08:49] <chayak> @nlmda .bin as in cd image or .bin as in binary file?
[08:49] <icesword> Flannel, but i want to see all users?
 i installed the corect package, i belive it was on my HDD , can i force apt to download that package and not to use the one in my hhd
[08:49] <n1mda> a copy of a cd.. so cd image that is I guess
[08:49] <simion314> ?
[08:49] <Flannel> icesword: ah, then cat /etc/passwd
[08:50] <jaime> which installer program is best for me since i'm new to ubuntu
[08:50] <jaime> ??
[08:50] <Filled-Void> simion314, You would install flash as you would do from the repositories within Ubuntu . then just download the file in the thread mentioned above and double click it
[08:50] <greentea> aptitude is best on ubuntu
[08:50] <nyas> Hi everyone, I'm pretty sure it's a dumb question but is there a printer-freindly version for Ubuntu 7.10 documentation?
[08:50] <chayak> @nlmda there is a program called bin2iso which should convert it
[08:50] <greentea> 'sudo aptitude install packagename'
[08:50] <Flannel> nyas: check out the PDF versions,
[08:50] <jaime> is aptitude gui?
[08:50] <n1mda> chayak: thanks, im gonna check it out
[08:50] <Flannel> jaime: Use synaptic
[08:50] <n1mda> synaptic is
[08:51] <Flannel> jaime: synaptic package manager, in system > admin
[08:51] <jaime> i know
[08:51] <chayak> @nlmda I believe k3b supports it as well
[08:51] <bluefoxx> greentea: fsck you, i do, so just fsck you
[08:51] <bluefoxx> i didnt come here to be insulted by assfscks like you, and its ppl like you that are wrong with the world
[08:51] <bluefoxx> greentea: i bet you never even kissed a girl; much less made out with one, is that y u feel the need to try and put others down? well you fale
[08:51] <bluefoxx> all i want to know is if i should worrie as my g/f uses vista and two other friend of mine were pulled into the convo, niether are that skilled with computers
[08:51] <nyas> Flannel, where do you find them?   I guess they haven't given PDFs since Edgy.  uh, hmm.
[08:52] <kenby> jaime:no,Synaptic is a gui tools
[08:53] <jaime> you're girlfriend should use windows xp or vista
[08:53] <jaime> since girls are so dumb
[08:53] <nyas> Flannel: thanks, I'l guess I'll just read it page by page in the browser
[08:53] <Astarte> I got 3 multimedia keys on my laptop that I can't get to work. I tried it in a real console and there is no output from these keys.. how do I fix it? I tried the forum and ubuntu website already
[08:53] <Flannel> !coc | jaime
[08:53] <ubotu> jaime: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[08:53] <chayak> @bluefoxx you're not helping the situation by ranting either, that's exactly the desired reaction
[08:53] <jaime> ?
[08:54] <Dyus> winehq
[08:54] <bluefoxx> yea, well i have a short temper
[08:54] <jaime> oh because the word i said du mmmm
[08:54] <jaime> ? sorry
[08:54] <greentea> Astarte, have you tried xev to see if it gives an output?
[08:54] <bluefoxx> and having my truethfullness insulted is a trigger, as is insulting those i love, especially wen thats my girlfriend
[08:55] <greentea> bluefoxx, how old are you?  honest question
[08:55] <Flannel> !offtopic
[08:55] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:55] <Parsec300> !foo
[08:55] <ubotu> bar
[08:55] <chazco> Hi... i've got a Samsung F700... is it possible to sync this with Gusty via USB/bluetooth?
[08:56] <Astarte> greentea: Yes. there is no output
[08:56] <eckesicle> I hate to repeat but, my / has been mv'd to /path ... now i cannot use mv to mv it back. Neither does /path/bin/mv work. A few commands like pwd and cd still work
[08:56] <scguy318> chazco: probably, but since I've never done any syncing or own any such devices, not sure
[08:56] <Flannel> eckesicle: LiveCD and fix it
[08:56] <darkblueB> OpenOffice+ Postgres: tried to install a the driver, following http;//dba.openoffice.org/drivers/postgresql/index.html and manually downloaed the latest Zip, for OpenOffice 2x. the util showed the driver as available, but, no option present in the DB connect wizard.. ??
[08:56] <n1mda> hmm chayak - that just messed it up, it changed my original file to an incomplete .iso
[08:57] <greentea> Astarte, what's your laptop model?  maybe google can help us out
[08:57] <eckesicle> Flannel, problem is the computer is on other side of globe.
[08:57] <Astarte> greentea: Sony Vaio AR590E. I didn't find anything about this model on google either. It's only 2 months old
[08:58] <jaime> astarte how is you're vaio laptop?
[08:58] <chazco> !kmobiletools
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmobiletools - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <chayak> @nlmda eh, sorry, I've never really had a problem using it though it's only been about three times
[08:59] <Astarte> jaime: I love it. Some minor issues running ubuntu, like not being able to reduce brightness, etc, but other than that, I'm managing with it.
[09:00] <n1mda> chayak: allright, no biggy. While Im here I just must thank all devs on ubuntu! WE are all doing a great job! The best operatingsystem I have ever used
[09:00] <jaime> what is ur specs astarte?
[09:00] <greentea> Astarte, sorry, i think i'm finding the same thing you are, that your laptop is too new and unsupported
[09:00] <Senrac> What happens if you get spyware on linux how do you get rid of it?
[09:01] <chayak> @senrac there isn't really any spyware on linux
[09:01] <Astarte> jaime: 2GHz Core2Duo, 2GB RAM (Upgradable to 4GB), 2 X 160GB Hard drives, RAID controler, Blu-ray rewriter, 17" screen (1920 x 1200), HDMI out, GeForce 8600M GT, Inbuilt webcam
[09:01] <greentea> senrac, do you have something specific in mind?  you could just 'sudo rm /spyware/files' to get rid of it
[09:01] <greentea> bluefoxx, where'd you go?
[09:01] <inertial> is it possible to install an iso over the network using netboot?
[09:01] <jaime> I am currently with an Sony VGN FS790 and running so good in ubuntu
[09:01] <jaime> good :)
[09:01] <jaime> how is ur battery in linux?
[09:01] <Astarte> Nice
[09:02] <jaime> astarte
[09:02] <n1mda> bbl
[09:02] <Astarte> jaime: Well since I can't reduce brightness, I'm hardly getting an hour
[09:02] <bluefoxx> greentea: and i am inclined to answer you why?>i can just as easily lie, going by waht you said of me, and you know nothing of me other than that i call myself bluefoxx, use ubuntu hotmail and most likely have a girlfriend
[09:02] <bluefoxx> fyi, i am 16, but school testing says my mind operates at a adult's intellegence level, and i am in the top 95ith percentile of my age group, my maturity is often what teachers comment on wen talking to me, they say i am more mature than most ppl my age they talk to
[09:02] <bluefoxx> you know nothing of me other than what i tell you, therefore you have no right to judge me like you did, and if i didnt really have a girlfriend and love her more than life itself would i make such a scene infront of around 1200 random ppl, give or take?
[09:02] <bluefoxx> i think you should think before you speak[or hit enter in this case] and get to know a person before you judge them at all, or gtfo of a chat room
[09:03] <greentea> bluefoxx, i'm just trying to understand you a little better.  if you don't want to answer, no problem.  if you want to answer, maybe i can interact with you better
[09:03] <Senrac> just general spyware
[09:04] <inertial> no way to netboot an iso? :(
[09:04] <Astarte> greentea: I know it's a new model n everything.. but you have any idea why there is no output from the keys?
[09:04] <jaime> astarte i cant get that working either i just installed spicctrl and it wont work
[09:04] <Astarte> Ah
[09:04] <tuntun> !install | inertial
[09:04] <ubotu> inertial: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[09:04] <tuntun> thanks ubotu!!!
[09:05] <inertial> thanks tuntun
[09:05] <Astarte> jaime: For some reason my battery is now charging only upto 98% :[
[09:06] <greentea> each input has to have an individual id assigned to it, which is affected by both hardware and software...i'm guessing sony's hardware doesn't adhere to standards (as usual)
[09:06] <inertial> tuntun: thanks but unfortunately none of those are applicable to me
[09:06] <Astarte> greentea: You think they're doing this deliberately so it doesn't work with other OS?
[09:06] <inertial> i have no cd drive and no floppy drive- it is a laptop
[09:06] <jaime> astarte watch out which program you use to check if its fully charge
[09:07] <inertial> ah
[09:07] <jaime> astarte http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3089930.msg107698#msg107698
[09:07] <inertial> i just thought of something..
[09:07] <inertial> i'll netboot into linux and then install from iso
[09:07] <darkblueB> anyone know which log OpenOffice might write errors to?
[09:07] <scguy318> !install | inertial
[09:07] <ubotu> inertial: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[09:07] <Astarte> jaime: Well now even windows shows only 98%. I don't know if it's got anything to do with me using the laptop for too long
[09:07] <scguy318> inertial: your options are there :)
[09:07] <jaime> maybe you if you can reply with you're specs of workings sony
[09:07] <Astarte> Uptime: 10 days, 17 hours, 07 minutes
[09:08] <tuntun> inertial: wadya mean theres a part about network install inthe link!
[09:08] <scguy318> Astarte: more than mine by a couple of hours :P
[09:08] <jaime> battery does warn out
[09:08] <Parsec300> Anybody need microsoft fonts for free?
[09:08] <Astarte> How long do you run it for max, scguy318?
[09:08] <jaime> i just got this laptop i am having battery issue and maybe cmos battery issue
[09:08] <inertial> tuntun: it requires floppies
[09:08] <Parsec300> Like Arial and stuff? for Linux?
[09:08] <jaime> otherwise ubuntu works
[09:09] <bla57634> Parsec300: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[09:09] <jaime> astarte do you use ur laptop often without using power supply?
[09:09] <bluefoxx> my faith in humanity and the 'ubuntu  philosophy' and god/religion as a whole falls ever lower each time i attempt to have a civil conversation anywere, it seems i cant escape imbeciles that will stoop to mockery of anothers personal life to feel better about they're own inadequacies...thats why i am so sensitive to my friends whom i love more than family being insulted...
[09:09] <kenby>  Any one recommends me a  download tools?
[09:09] <Astarte> By the time they have working drivers n stuff for this model, I'd have bought a new one already, and back to square one, hehe
[09:09] <jaime> u can adjest alot of things to save power
[09:09] <Astarte> jaime: No, very rarely
[09:09] <bluefoxx> humanity; god; you fail on a massive level today...
[09:10] <jaime> do you use compiz?
[09:10] <Parsec300> bluefoxx, you must be depressed? Although I see your point.
[09:10] <tuntun> inertial: really? what about: Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies - Installing without a CD drive or network capabilities from a hard drive.???
[09:10] <scguy318> kenby: download manager?
[09:10] <darkblueB> bluefoxx: its just one voice out of many.. dont be too hurt.. most people arent paying attention to just you ;-)
[09:10] <wols> !ot | bluefoxx
[09:10] <ubotu> bluefoxx: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:10] <eckesicle> Okay. What if I change the PATH evvar...
[09:10] <jaime> artarte do you use compiz?
[09:11] <wols> darkblueB: I do now, due to all his stupid whining
[09:11] <kenby> scguy318:tools ,such as wget ,but faster than wget
[09:11] <Astarte> jaime: I did for a few days and got bored of it.
[09:11] <scguy318> kenby: not sure about faster, but there's d4x (Downloader for X)
[09:11] <scguy318> kenby: wget does its job very well
[09:11] <Dyus> are there any alternatives to xinerama and twinview for multi monitor/card setups?
[09:12] <jaime> artarte go system-perferences and power management preferences
[09:12] <Astarte> jaime: Tried that already. Can't reduce brightness from there either
[09:13] <jaime> go to through ur nvidia program
[09:13] <jaime> u can do it there and might work
[09:13] <kenby> scguy318:I have tried it ,not bad.but I prefer a command line tools
[09:14] <darkblueB> hmm fonts => deFoMa
[09:14] <Astarte> jaime: You mean nvidia-settings? yeah I can reduce it from there, but the screen looks weird if brightness is reduced from there, and the battery time remaining is still the same
[09:14] <scguy318> kenby: well, wget is it :)
[09:14] <jaime> wow
[09:15] <jaime> astarte whats ur model number for ur vaio?
[09:15] <Astarte> jaime: AR590E
[09:15] <bloodboy> hello, anybosy knows how to dual boot linux ubuntu and winxp MCE on the same HD wiothout changing the Windows MBR?
[09:15] <jaime> i saw something what you might like
[09:15] <bloodboy> and as i use a laptop, i have no floppy disk
[09:16] <darkblueB> bloodboy: get an external drive, save yourself some headache!
[09:16] <bloodboy> can GRUB boot loader be installed on a flash drive?
[09:16] <scguy318> bloodboy: yes
[09:16] <tuntun> !grub | bloodboy
[09:16] <ubotu> bloodboy: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:17] <bloodboy> ok, i need the commands to copy GRUB and initilise it from the flash drive
[09:17] <tuntun> i love doing that :D
[09:17] <jaime> astarte have u checked on energizer notebook battery?
[09:17] <jaime> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&hs=Ndi&q=energizer+sony+laptop+battery&um=1&ie=UTF-8
[09:17] <tuntun> !grub | bloodboy
[09:17] <ubotu> bloodboy: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:17] <tuntun> ^^
[09:18] <bloodboy> ok, and where are the linux system driver files located?
[09:18] <scguy318> bloodboy: driver? like?
[09:18] <bloodboy> is it at system32?
[09:18] <bloodboy> like USB drivers
[09:18] <scguy318> bloodboy: ...I don't think so
[09:18] <bloodboy> ohciusb.sys?
[09:18] <scguy318> bloodboy: what driver?
[09:18] <bloodboy> ehciusb.sys?
[09:18] <bloodboy> USB drivers
[09:18] <bloodboy> for Ub untu
[09:19] <Sonja> africans invented fractals and the binary code: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/198
[09:19] <scguy318> bloodboy: uhm...I don't think you need Windows drivers for Ubuntu?
[09:19] <bloodboy> nope
[09:19] <bloodboy> i need ubuntu drivers for USB?
[09:19] <scguy318> bloodboy: no
[09:19] <bloodboy> i can't seem to open the files in windows
[09:19] <bloodboy> like exe files?
[09:19] <scguy318> bloodboy: what files?
[09:20] <scguy318> bloodboy: im sorry, I'm not quite understanding your questino
[09:20] <bloodboy> does linux have support for .exe files?
[09:20] <jaime> astarte are you still there?
[09:20] <bloodboy> like my Intel GMA graphics driver
[09:20] <Sonja> i think so. i can open exe files
[09:20] <kenby> bloodboy:wine
[09:20] <Astarte> jaime: Yeah, checking it out.
[09:20] <tuntun> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:20] <scguy318> bloodboy: what about it?
[09:20] <bloodboy> cause i need to run game installers also
[09:21] <scguy318> bloodboy: oh, like run an EXE file? Wine
[09:21] <jaime> expensive but hey its something i will look forward
[09:21] <bloodboy> ok
[09:21] <bloodboy> checking wine out
[09:21] <scguy318> bloodboy: Windows drivers won't work at all on Ubuntu, however
[09:21] <icesword> have a good day,everyone,bye,looking forward to ubuntu 8.04
[09:21] <bluefoxx> and @jaime with 'girls are dumb': not true, i have met many grils that are'nt the best at everything but they are certanely not dumb; youre comment is [if at all] a crude attempt at humor, and exteremly sexist for what i would think to be a channel more mature than that - .-"
[09:21] <bluefoxx> about 90% of my friends are girls at the moment, and this is why, most guys are too crude and sexist like that for my liking, call me a wimp if you will but im more mature than that, take a jab at my family-of-friends an i will bite...
[09:21] <bluefoxx> my friends may not be as geeky as me with computers but they dont get to stay up to 5 in the morning messing around with computers, they dont all have the freedome that i have, i certanely am teaching them, and theyr smarter than that, they know alot of terms the average person will be confused by, and they are GIRLS, and they arent dumb at all, they do many thing for the world, just look it up on google sometime, if you can stand to
[09:21] <bluefoxx> sexism/racism and gender-bashing of any kind or form is wrong, ignorance like that often leads to wars, we need to respect one another, not hate eachother. no i am not a hippie, i am merely mature enough to realize this is the cause of the problems with socioty
[09:21] <bluefoxx> hate me all you want, i dont give a flying-rats-ass
[09:21] <jaime> anybody using energizer notebook battery?
[09:22] <Astarte> jaime: I don't see one for AR series though. Do you use one yourself?  See !offtopic for things that are inappropriate to discuss in this channel. Continuing will result in action being taken.
[09:23] <bluefoxx> more profe that you are all lame
[09:23] <scguy318> sigh
[09:24] <scguy318> bloodboy: anyway, what were you asking about earlier?
[09:24] <JimmyDee> btw tonyyarusso could you check and see when I'm banned out of offtopic till?
[09:24] <bluefoxx> all logged...
[09:24] <bloodboy> installing Ubuntu on the same hard drive as WinXP woithout changing the windows MBR
[09:24] <bloodboy> omg
[09:24] <bloodboy> my machine is overheating
[09:24] <JimmyDee> the cows are here, hell is chillin and I wanna come visit
[09:24] <bluefoxx> *deep sigh*
[09:24] <bluefoxx> humans phale
[09:24] <bloodboy> oh god
[09:25] <bluefoxx> /exit you all suck
[09:25] <lalalalalalalala> How doyu change your color scheme
[09:25] <scguy318> bloodboy: well, I guess you could have your NTLDR chainload grub?
[09:25] <lalalalalalalala> It says that the current controls will not let me change my color scheme
[09:25] <lalalalalalalala> And this default white is really icky
[09:25] <bloodboy> i havent actualy installed ubuntu yet
[09:25] <scguy318> bloodboy: well, what's wrong with GRUB on your MBR then?
[09:25] <wols> bloodboy: why don't you want to change the MBR to grub?
[09:26] <bloodboy> cause i need the default MBR
[09:26] <scguy318> bloodboy: why?
[09:26] <bloodboy> my dell system restore partition
[09:26] <bloodboy> i have a hidden dell system restore partition
[09:26] <jaime> astarte http://www.energizerbatteries.com/productList.asp?device=LAPT
[09:26] <wols> bloodboy: that's irrelevant
[09:26] <bloodboy> ok
[09:27] <wols> the first 446 bytes of your MBR and your restore partition don't interfere
[09:27] <bloodboy> so if GRUB takes over the MBR...
[09:27] <lalalalalalalala> Can anyone tell me how to change my color scheme
[09:27] <bloodboy> can i still use dell pc restore command?
[09:27] <bloodboy> u know, to return the PC to system default
[09:27] <bloodboy> will the BIOS still initiate
[09:28] <jaime> astarte found it that would work http://www.energizerbatteries.com/productdetail.asp?device=LAPT&prodcode=30972
[09:28] <jaime> astarte found it that would work http://www.energizerbatteries.com/productdetail.asp?device=LAPT&prodcode=30972
[09:28] <bloodboy> or respond to startup command?
[09:28] <bloodboy> plz
[09:28] <DrPepperL> hey
[09:28] <wols> bloodboy: if you install ubuntu correctly: yes. but: you should make a backup anyways
[09:28] <bloodboy> i really wanna try ubuntu
[09:28] <ljsmithx> Good!
[09:28] <bloodboy> ok
[09:28] <DrPepperL> i just installed ubuntu
[09:28] <bloodboy> whgen i partion
[09:28] <DrPepperL> nice OS
[09:28] <ljsmithx> GOOD!
[09:28] <wols> bloodboy: and you can backup the MBR too
[09:28] <bloodboy> will i hose my BNTFS windows partiotion?
[09:28] <jaime> astarte did you caught that one?
[09:29] <bloodboy> can u gimme link to backup MBR plz?
[09:29] <lalalalalalalala> Can anyone tell me how to change my color scheme
[09:29] <Arelis> Hi all. Seems i removed my SSL libraries by accident. I can't connect to MSN anymore, now. How do i install them back?
[09:29] <lalalalalalalala> It says 'current controls do not allow the changing of color schee' or something like that
[09:29] <JNN> Hello
[09:29] <lalalalalalalala> i find it hard to believe that in a channel of 1,000 people no one can tell me how to change my color scheme
[09:29] <patbam> hi, i suspect some problems wtih my hard drive, and i am told that there is a way to run a memory check from grub (i'm dual booting xp). is this true? how do i do it? (i can't find anything in the grub command line.)
[09:30] <Bloops> lalalala: you mean your desktop theme ?
[09:30] <cosme> go to your color scheme's duh
[09:30] <wols> patbam: memory test != harddisk test
[09:30] <wols> patbam: it's for, as the name says, a test for memory. RAM.
[09:30] <JNN> I wanna use ubuntu the first time but failed on the boot disk ^^
[09:30] <lalalalalalalala> it says 'the current control theme does not support color scheme'
[09:30] <cosme> make custom
[09:30] <sam__> anyone help me with some ubuntu for power pc problems
[09:30] <wols> and the grub prompt is not needed but it should be on the default menu
[09:30] <scguy318> Arelis: sudo aptitude install libgnutls13
[09:31] <wols> patbam: for testing harddisks, use smartmontools
[09:31] <scguy318> Arelis: think that's it
[09:31] <patbam> wols: what's "it"?
[09:31] <TylerJGillies> is it possible to get the binary data from a file and output it in ASCII 1's and 0's?
[09:31] <wols> patbam: memtest86
[09:31] <JNN> my pc doesn't accept the boot-cd
[09:31] <lalalalalalalala> hw do you make a new theme
[09:31] <jaime> jnn is it laptop or pc?
[09:31] <JNN> pc
[09:31] <jaime> have u tried dell
[09:31] <JNN> no
[09:31] <patbam> wols: ok thanks
[09:31] <jaime> reboot and get in ur bios
[09:31] <wols> TylerJGillies: of course it's possible. but why you'd want to is a bit puzzling
[09:32] <jaime> push dell
[09:32] <jaime> del
[09:32] <Bloops> lalalalala : are you using gnome or kde ?
[09:32] <JNN> ah, ok
[09:32] <JNN> ^^
[09:32] <lalalalalalalala> gnome sucks balls
[09:32] <jaime> maybe f2
[09:32] <Arelis> scguy318: says it's already present
[09:32] <wers> wow. the latest clearlooks is really slow
[09:32] <JNN> ye, BIOS, i know
[09:32] <wers> lalalalalalalala, why? lol
[09:32] <jaime> lalalalala gnome is very nice once you fix'em up
[09:32] <lalalalalalalala> wers, i cant change the fucking colors
[09:32] <lalalalalalalala> it wont allow me
[09:32] <sam__> jeez switchin OS's is like learning a new language
[09:33] <kenby> any one use fluxbox here?
[09:33] <wers> lalalalalalalala, it depends on the theme
[09:33] <jaime> thats easy
[09:33] <lalalalalalalala> it just says 'the current control thingie does not allow changing color schemes'
[09:33] <lalalalalalalala> wers, how do i create a new theme
[09:33] <JNN> jaime: what should I do in the BIOS?
[09:33] <TylerJGillies> wols: visual effect. do you know how to do it?
[09:33] <wers> lalalalalalalala, are you on gutsy?
[09:33] <lalalalalalalala> wers, if thats the newest one, then yes
[09:33] <wers> lalalalalalalala, go to the Controls tab in the customize window
[09:34] <wols> TylerJGillies: write a script. but i guess there already are a ton of matrix knockoffs out there
[09:34] <sam__> how do u install secondlife for ubuntu on powerpc
[09:34] <wers> choose another theme
[09:34] <Arelis> Hi all. Seems i removed my SSL libraries by accident. I can't connect to MSN anymore, now. How do i install them back?
[09:34] <wols> sam__: is there a client for PPC?
[09:34] <jaime> jnn look up the manual for ur motherboard
[09:34] <lalalalalalalala> wers, i want to make a new theme, how do i do that
[09:34] <wols> Arelis: dpkg -l |grep libssl
[09:34] <sam__> yes
[09:34] <jaime> give me ur brand and model of ur pc
[09:34] <sam__> wait, no
[09:34] <TylerJGillies> wols: so is that a no?
[09:34] <jaime> JNN
[09:34] <Bloops> lalalala: change the theme to clearlooks, it supports colour schemes
[09:35] <Arelis> wols: ii  libssl0.9.8                                0.9.8e-5ubuntu3.1                    SSL shared libraries
[09:35] <wols> ssl is installed
[09:35] <wers> lalalalalalalala, i dont know as well. i'm not l33t enough. i just get themes from gnome-look.org
[09:35] <jahid> hi, can anyone tell me how can use grep command to find in all files for string "consignment" recursively? also i want to see where are the files located
[09:35] <wers> lalalalalalalala, gnome sucks balls just because you can't change the colors? lol
[09:35] <Arelis> wols: "SSL support is needed for MSN. Please install a supported SSL library."

[09:36] <wers> haha. I agree. lalalalalalalala, the most decent themes are found are the latest clearlooks and the Nodoka theme