[07:42] <jknife> lol
[07:42] <makkk> thanks
[07:43] <bur[n] er> np :)
[07:43] <jknife> point gotos bur[n] er
[07:43] <holycow> http://www.motionmountain.net/  <-- this should be a good test for evince
[07:43] <holycow> 1200 page pdf
[07:43] <holycow> >_<
[07:43] <d03boy> can someone solve my problem before I have to murder my cat :\
[07:44] <jknife> kubuntu-desktop does include kdm
[07:44] <Hobbsee> jknife: i stand corrected
[07:44] <jknife> i just saw it d/l it
[07:44] <bur[n] er> jknife: nice thing about kde 3.5 is that it works with gdm :)  u can actually shut down the pC from kde while using gdm :)
[07:44] <jknife> 2 points for bun-bun
[07:44] <_SD_Keo> No it's not samba, I want to use eth1 and eth0 together.
[07:44] <jknife> bur[n] er,
[07:44] <jknife> srry bun-bun no points for u
[07:44] <bob_4_a_day> d03boy nah, kill that cat and then we'll work on it.
[07:44] <jknife> thay fixed that?
[07:45] <d03boy> i lied, i dont have a cat, i hate cats
[07:45] <bur[n] er> _SD_Keo: i think u can do stuff like that with ipmasquerading ?
[07:45] <jknife> whew.. i was annonyion in the prev versions
[07:45] <bur[n] er> _SD_Keo: firestarter is a gui to do it :)
[07:45] <bob_4_a_day> d03boy what error ?
[07:45] <tony_> ok umm so I have inetutils-inetd installed now
[07:45] <tony_> how do I tell which config file it's pulling from?
[07:45] <_SD_Keo> bur[n] er, sounds inserting
[07:45] <d03boy> bob_4_a_day: im not even sure..... it ended up having an errorcode(1) though... whatever that is
[07:45] <jknife> ITS ASKING ME!!1 YAY!!!
[07:46] <bur[n] er> _SD_Keo: http://www.fs-security.com/  <---does internet connection sharing  (sudo apt-get install firestarter)
[07:46] <bob_4_a_day> d03boy what command has errorcode 1 ?
[07:46] <_SD_Keo> or I could use this nifty synaptic
[07:46] <Brunellus_> I have lm-sensors and I've decided I want to use the ISA isntead of SMBus. how do I change that
[07:46] <Brunellus_> or how do I remove lm-sensor and all the kernel modules it loads?
[07:47] <bur[n] er> _SD_Keo: or that... your call :)  I'm curious how well or not well it works for you, so let me know! :)
[07:47] <d03boy> bob_4_a_day: i beleive its actually the apt-get dist-upgrade thats having the error, but I think its due to the kdevelop package not being able to be installed
[07:47] <jknife> well im out.. ttyl
[07:47] <_SD_Keo> bur[n] er, I'll try it
[07:47] <Brunellus_> anybody?
[07:48] <Hobbsee> Brunellus_: er, sudo aptitude remove imsensors?
[07:48] <bur[n] er> d03boy: apt-get -f install ??
[07:48] <d03boy> tried that, it ends up with problems
[07:48] <Gent> is there a separate channel for PPC support?
[07:49] <bur[n] er> d03boy: problems being?  something about blah exists in package blah?
[07:49] <bob_4_a_day> d03boy all repos are right ?
[07:49] <d03boy> bob_4_a_day: i copied and pasted from the wiki... so I'm assuming they are right
[07:49] <Gent> anyone?
[07:50] <Brunellus_> will I also need to remove sensors.conf?
[07:50] <d03boy> bur[n] er: i'm not even sure, I'd have to check again which takes a few minutes
[07:50] <Madpilot> Gent: this is it - there are a few PPC users around, usually
[07:50] <bur[n] er> Gent: ubuntu-ppc?
[07:50] <Gent> Yeah
[07:50] <Insane> Hi
[07:50] <Hobbsee> Brunellus_: not sure
[07:50] <bur[n] er> d03boy: i'd say keep doing apt-get -f install until you get no errors... then apt-get dist-upgrade till no errors
[07:51] <Gent> basically looking to share the home directory between the two... but Ubuntu won't see the FS properly if I format UFS in OS X, so I wanted to format UFS in Ubuntu and see if OS X would see it
[07:51] <Gent> but it doesn't appear to have the mkfs for UFS, and I can't find it anywhere in the apt sources
[07:51] <Insane> I am so glad! I am finally getting ubuntu to upgrade....very easy...considering
[07:51] <bur[n] er> Gent: can OS X see ext3 partitions?
[07:51] <d03boy> bur[n] er: ive done it a few times and i'm pertty sure its the same errors...... but i'll try doing it a few times to make sure
[07:51] <Gent> not without a special driver
[07:51] <pbransford> ok i have an odd request...
[07:51] <Hobbsee> d03boy: can you post the output of what fails and all that to pastebin?
[07:51] <Gent> and I'm not sure how mature the hfsplus driver is, last time I could only mount read only with the hfsplus driver
[07:51] <yh> Gent: hformat ?
[07:51] <bur[n] er> Gent: so why not use a "special" driver?
[07:51] <yh> Gent: ja, still only read-only
[07:52] <Gent> bur[n] er, not sure how stable it is
[07:52] <d03boy> Hobbsee: not unless I can get networking and lynx to work or something
[07:52] <Gent> yh, what's hformat?
[07:52] <pbransford> I have a script in /etc/init.d (responds to start, stop, restart) that I want run at startup along with networking
[07:52] <d03boy> Hobbsee: do you know where i can find th elog?
[07:52] <pbransford> how do i do that?
[07:52] <d03boy> Hobbsee: if I can find the log I can just put it on another shared drive i have
[07:52] <Hobbsee> d03boy: it should just say what was kept back, and didnt upgrade itself
[07:52] <yh> Gent: looks like a mkfs for HFS
[07:52] <yh> Gent: from the man page: "hformat - create a new HFS filesystem and make it current"
[07:52] <Gent> just regular HFS?
[07:52] <Gent> not hfs+ ?
[07:52] <Gent> can linux read/write HFS?
[07:53] <bur[n] er> Gent: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsx/  <-that can mount ext2/3 in OS X
[07:53] <varsendagger> SWAT, hey fubutu!!!!
[07:53] <Insane> Can I ask a question? I have a Nvidia video card, FX 5200, and I don't exactly know how to intstall it. I need to so by screen resolution can be set above 1024 x whatever.
[07:53] <pbransford> I used "http://easyfwgen.morizot.net/gen/" - I tested it out and the script works perfect. its in /etc/init.d/firewall.sh
[07:53] <Gent> bur[n] er, but as a home partition? or is it a separate app that does it once I'm in?
[07:53] <bur[n] er> !tell Insane about nvidia
[07:53] <d03boy> Hobbsee: im pretty sure thats not the case... i think its an abornal error... i dont think it actually ever finishes
[07:53] <pbransford> permissions are the same as all the other files in there
[07:53] <bur[n] er> Gent: i guess I don't know... you could just mount it anywhere... then symlink the home dir to that new location?
[07:53] <yh> Gent: good question, I am not sure
[07:53] <Insane> k. Thanks!
[07:54] <yh> sounds like your problem is that you've gotta have the partition mounted when OS X boots eh
[07:54] <Gent> I mean, there's different ways to go, but I need it 100% automated and as stable as possible
[07:54] <Hobbsee> d03boy: what doesnt seem to be upgrading?  there's got to be some way that you know it's failing
[07:54] <Gent> yh, I do, OS X can read/write HFS, HFS+, and UFS
[07:54] <themachine> are there any good programming irc channels? like C or Java?
[07:54] <Gent> it's just a matter of what's the best for Linux
[07:54] <d03boy> Hobbsee: it gets an error when unpacking/installing kdevelop
[07:54] <yh> Gent: I would imagine that UFS support in linux is better than the first two
[07:55] <bur[n] er> Hobbsee: error being?
[07:55] <yh> but I am definitely not an authority on this one
[07:55] <yh> (or anything really) : P
[07:55] <Hobbsee> d03boy: sudo apt-get install kdevelop
[07:55] <Gent> that's what I thought, but I have no way to format it UFS in Ubuntu PPC
[07:55] <bur[n] er> er... d03boy, error being?
[07:55] <trygve> so, I'm looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage & http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, but is there a way to get ubotu itself to list the factoids it knows about?
[07:55] <bur[n] er> Hobbsee: it's kdevelop3 ;)
[07:55] <yh> Gent: really
[07:55] <Hobbsee> d03boy: sudo apt-get install kdevelop3 then lol
[07:55] <d03boy> Hobbsee: tried that, same error (if i remember correctly)
[07:55] <Gent> not from what I can see
[07:55] <bur[n] er> d03boy: sudo apt-get remove kdevelop3 :)
[07:55] <Hobbsee> then paste what you get from the terminal into pastebin...
[07:55] <d03boy> i think i tried that too, i'll try it again
[07:56] <Insane> Another question...I am upgrading through terminal.....all these upgrades to breezy are like 400 MB, and I want to know whether these upgrades will aply themselves automatically or not. I used these instructions, via terminal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[07:56] <d03boy> Hobbsee: I cant paste because i cant get into X
[07:56] <Hobbsee> ah, i see, yes
[07:56] <bur[n] er> Insane: they will
[07:56] <Hobbsee> Insane: yes, it will be automatic
[07:56] <Insane> Thank you, bur[n] er and Hobbsee
[07:56] <bur[n] er> Insane: coming from hoary right?
[07:56] <bam_> anyone got an "alternative" idea for a widow manager for ubuntu
[07:56] <Insane> Yes
[07:56] <Gent> if I could get ubuntu to format that, I'm fairly sure I'd be fine
[07:57] <bur[n] er> Insane: you're all good then :)
[07:57] <Hobbsee> bam_: gnome, kde, xfce, fluxbox?
[07:57] <varsendagger> bam Fluxbox
[07:57] <d03boy> Insane: i hope you dont have the same problems as I do :O
[07:57] <Insane> I JUST installed Hoary when I realised it was one of my older CD's I am using
[07:57] <yh> Gent: it sounds like even UFS might be iffy
[07:57] <varsendagger> xfce is good for the beginer
[07:57] <bam_> tried flux, didnt suit well
[07:57] <bur[n] er> bam_: gnome, kde, fluxbox, xfce, windowmaker, pekwm, matchbox, icewm
[07:57] <bur[n] er> bam_: xubuntu-desktop :)
[07:57] <bam_> hmmm matchbox...
[07:57] <Insane> So, it is a fresh installation of Hoary, which i am upgrading. No other packages installed
[07:57] <Gent> Why's that?
[07:58] <bam_> havent tried that one yet
[07:58] <d03boy> Hobbsee, bur[n] er: what do you suggest I do first?
[07:58] <yh> Gent: I'm just reading some things that suggest UFS support in linux is iffy too
[07:58] <Hobbsee> d03boy: find some way to copy the error, and to save what is in the terminal, on your machine
[07:58] <d03boy> ok... i'll be back in a little while
[07:58] <bur[n] er> d03boy: using irssi on that machine?
[07:59] <Insane> How many upgraed thingys are there, if you installed fresh from Hoary, with no extra packagaes? I am at Get: 96
[07:59] <bur[n] er> d03boy: if you are, we can all join #flood :)
[07:59] <yh> Gent: are you running Tiger?
[07:59] <d03boy> bur[n] er: no i just booted into windows
[07:59] <bur[n] er> d03boy: bleh
[07:59] <d03boy> bur[n] er: i'll see if i can install irssi
[07:59] <yh> (or planning on it)
[07:59] <bur[n] er> d03boy: irssi-text
[07:59] <Gent> yeah, I'm running tiger
[07:59] <d03boy> bur[n] er: ok, be back soon i hope
[07:59] <Hobbsee> d03boy: should already be there
[07:59] <d03boy> k
[07:59] <bur[n] er> d03boy: /server irc.freenode.net
[07:59] <bob_4_a_day> Insane probably about 300
[07:59] <yh> Gent: ok, then ext2/ext3 seems like a no go
[07:59] <Insane> kk
[07:59] <Madpilot> Insane: you're upgrading to Breezy? there are lots of them...
[08:00] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:00] <Insane> Well, now I am at 110
[08:00] <Hobbsee> bur[n] er: isnt it /connect irc.freenode.net?
[08:00] <bur[n] er> Hobbsee: i bet that works too... mines all in a ~/.irssi/config ;)
[08:00] <Hobbsee> hehe nice
[08:00] <Insane> Got my ADSL line a month ago, so this is going fairly fast...compared to what i was used to
[08:00] <yh> Gent: I would try hformat in linux
[08:01] <yh> on a partition
[08:01] <Insane> Package number 140
[08:01] <yh> try reading and writing to it for a while, running off of it, etc.
[08:01] <holycow> okay thats it.  totem mozilla plugins are getting removed
[08:01] <yh> not sure if you have to mess with Tiger to make sure it doesn't turn it into hfs+
[08:01] <holycow> its amazing that they can be packaged when they don't work
[08:01] <bob_4_a_day>  /servchan irc.freenode.net #ubuntu 6667
[08:02] <Gent> let me try and format it as HFS again using the tiger CD
[08:02] <Gent> and see if I can get linux to mount it read/write
[08:03] <bob_4_a_day> any fs that can use permissions like ext2 and wont die if power fails like vfat doesnt  ????
[08:04] <trygve> holycow: I did the same thing
[08:04] <bob_4_a_day> i want linux on vfat with inode perms
[08:04] <Insane> oh wait...I just noticed something....I am on package 160...and it is only 16%.....at least te thing says it will take about 2h 51m...is that timer correct, because the windows timer couln't count
[08:04] <Gent> from what I've read OS X doesn't like the hformatted partitions
[08:05] <bob_4_a_day> Insane "correct" no.   but a guess, yes.
[08:05] <Gent> WTF...
[08:05] <bob_4_a_day> Insane it will be in the neighbourhood
[08:05] <Gent> now I can't format this as HFS
[08:05] <Insane> But to the windows timer, at least on my PC, it considered 1 second to be 2 1/2 minutes...
[08:05] <Madpilot> Insane: it's passingly accurate - better than the Windows one, IIRC
[08:06] <Insane> It was frustrating
[08:06] <bob_4_a_day> yeah
[08:06] <yh> Gent: ?
[08:06] <Gent> yah?
[08:07] <Insane> Are there like templates availible to change the ubuntu linux look? Or themes....or anything....should probably wait until after the upgrade before doing anything, though...
[08:08] <Madpilot> !tell Insane about themes
[08:08] <yh> Gent: something acting up?
[08:08] <linkd> Insane: you have windows managers.. u have gtk themes. both influence the overall look of the system
[08:08] <phillijw> okie dokie
[08:08] <bob_4_a_day> file system question,      can linux be installed on vfat ?
[08:08] <d03boy> now... to switch consoles its alt+fsomething?
[08:09] <bob_4_a_day> yep
[08:09] <tony_> hey I'm having a really crappy time trying to get samba working
[08:09] <bam_> anyone got matchbox running/
[08:09] <linkd> d03boy: alt+fn where n is a number
[08:09] <d03boy> k
[08:09] <bob_4_a_day> 1-6
[08:09] <tony_> would someone be willing to vnc to my box and help me through it?
[08:09] <Insane> Oh my soul..i just noticed that you are using a bot to tell me about themes....lazy
[08:09] <Gent> yeah, I thought I could format HFS from the tiger disk
[08:09] <Gent> I can't
[08:09] <linkd> Insane: efficent :P
[08:09] <linkd> Insane: since the same question may have been asked hundreds of times
[08:09] <bob_4_a_day> unless you have enabled more consoles, you only have 1-6 by default.
[08:10] <Madpilot> Insane: very effecient ;)
[08:10] <Insane> lol
[08:10] <Madpilot> *efficient, even
[08:10] <teja> join  #ubuntuforums
[08:10] <yh> Gent: only hfs+ ?
[08:11] <teja> #join ubuntuforums
[08:11] <trygve> teja: try "/join #ubuntuforums" =p
[08:11] <Gent> yeah, looks like it
[08:11] <linkd> teja: i think u mean /join ?:P
[08:11] <Gent> do you know if ubuntu ppc is supposed to read/write hfsplus by default?
[08:11] <teja> I am new to IRc
[08:11] <Bollenator> teja, and you probably want #ubuntu
[08:12] <d03boy> ok, first things first: when I run a dist-upgrade first thing I get is unmet dependencies
[08:12] <linkd> teja: np. to join a channel you type "/join #channelname"
[08:12] <yh> Gent: it only reads I believe
[08:12] <Gent> according to everything I read it does, but it didn't work for me
[08:12] <yh> maybe I'm wrong
[08:12] <teja> ok
[08:12] <trygve> Bollenator: he's already in #ubuntu, I don't think he was trying to join again =p
[08:12] <linkd> lol
[08:12] <Bollenator> yeah, kinda figgered that one after sending :S
[08:12] <trygve> =)
[08:12] <Daemon> is there a channel for dapper drake edition?
[08:13] <Bollenator> hehe
[08:13] <Gent> I know it has an issue seeing the partitions if case-sensitivity is enabled
[08:13] <trygve> gent, do you know a solution for that?
[08:13] <Gent> no
[08:13] <Gent> I wish I did
[08:13] <trygve> I've got an hfsx (case sensitive hfs+) drive I've been trying to get access to
[08:13] <trygve> ahh, one can hope =)
[08:13] <yh> hmm
[08:14] <Gent> try, does ubuntu ppc come with read/write for hfs+?
[08:14] <yh> Gent: do you have an hfsplus partition you want to test on?
[08:14] <yh> Gent: it looks like if you use "hpmount" you can write to it
[08:14] <Hobbsee> Daemon: not that i know of, i think it's this one
[08:14] <d03boy> if anyone said anything to me, i missed it
[08:14] <Gent> I need it to come up in fstab though
[08:14] <yh> heh
[08:14] <yh> good point
[08:15] <Gent> I'm erasing home as HFS+ again
[08:15] <trygve> what is hpmount, yh?
[08:15] <d03boy> now im running: sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[08:15] <Daemon> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20039 <- I get this bug, wondering what to try to fix it
[08:16] <bob_4_a_day> good calender/calculator ?     to calculate dates of cosmic events ???
[08:16] <Hobbsee> Daemon: use the run command (alt+f2) and type the program name
[08:17] <dumbhead> can someone tell me how to upgrade from hoary to breezy using the iso image without burning a CD-rom
[08:17] <Daemon> Hobbsee: that's what I'm using to get around it currently, only bug upgrading so far
[08:17] <trygve> ooh, alt-f2, that's a good one to know, thanks!
[08:17] <bob_4_a_day> anyone know of one ?
[08:17] <Hobbsee> Daemon: nice
[08:17] <Gent> Who would have thunk sharing a partition for /home between the two would be so difficult....
[08:18] <trygve> is there a listing somewhere of other keyboard shortcuts?  I'm a shortcut junkie, always looking for new ones
[08:18] <Daemon> dumbhead: you can mount an iso image directly, not sure of the exact commands
[08:19] <dumbhead> Daemon: i have the iso image mounted
[08:19] <dumbhead> what next
[08:19] <dumbhead> Daemon: mount -t iso9660 -o loop /<filename> /mountpoint is the command in case you need to know
[08:19] <Gent> hrm
[08:19] <Gent> this looks like it's working now
[08:19] <Gent> strange
[08:19] <bob_4_a_day> dumbhead  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:20] <dumbhead> thanks, i am checking that
[08:20] <yh> Gent: what worked?
[08:20] <Gent> hfsplus with read/write
[08:20] <Gent> looks like it's working in ubuntu
[08:20] <yh> ah
[08:20] <Madpilot> trygve: go System menu --> Prefs --> Keyboard Shortcuts (you set them there too)
[08:21] <Gent> must have just been a permission thing before
[08:21] <Gent> ... that sucks
[08:21] <varsendagger> hey i just tried Argonium
[08:21] <varsendagger> it is slow on my machien  - i have crap for a graphics card but i should be able to run a quake2 engine
[08:22] <trygve> gent, you got it working??
[08:22] <Gent> yeah
[08:22] <trygve> that's regular hfsplus, though, not hfsx, right?
[08:22] <nalioth> bob_4_a_day: please be respectful
[08:22] <Gent> does ubuntu make a group per user?
[08:22] <Gent> right, regular hfsplus journaled
[08:22] <trygve> oh, okay
[08:22] <bob_4_a_day> well if i cant make / crash proff one way i'll try another,   i'll set / to mount ro by default.....
[08:22] <nalioth> trygve: what  are we doing with hfs+ ?
[08:23] <Gent> I thought I had set up something on this for right click
[08:23] <Gent> apparently not
[08:23] <trygve> well, I have an hfsx disk (case-sensitive journaled hfsplus) that I'd like to be able to at least get read access to, but I haven't been able to get working
[08:23] <bob_4_a_day> but what will i do with mtab ?????
[08:24] <trygve> gent, as I understand, is trying to share a /home partition with osx (I think?)
[08:24] <Gent> yeah
[08:24] <Pegasos989> My CD/DVD drive won't open. Can I somehow force eject from ubuntu
[08:24] <Gent> and I'm pretty sure I just pulled it off 100%
[08:24] <nalioth> trygve: i dont advise that at all
[08:24] <Hobbsee> Pegasos989: "eject" in a terminal
[08:24] <trygve> well, tell gent, he's the one doing it =)
[08:25] <nalioth> trygve: the hfs+ in modern OSX is very fragile and linux doesnt know how to take care of it properly (short form, you may lose data)
[08:25] <sls> Pega you can use the umount -l to unmount busy devices
[08:25] <nalioth> trygve: sorry, i just got back in the chair
[08:25] <sls> like a Cd/DVD with open files on it
[08:25] <Pegasos989> Hobbsee, Doesn't help. It just prints one new line and waits on it (can't give new commands) and the drive won't open... Do I need to boot?
[08:25] <nalioth> Gent:  the hfs+ in modern OSX is very fragile and linux doesnt know how to take care of it properly (short form, you may lose data)
[08:25] <Gent> yeah, I saw that
[08:25] <makkk> help, my system is borked badly. my gnome session wont start up. it gives an error: "_IceTransTransnoListen: ubable to find transport: tcp"
[08:25] <trygve> I just have an external drive that I cloned off an osx machine which is, sadly, no longer mine.  I cloned the drive so I'd still have my data (and could clone it back to my next mac, when I get one (as soon as those intel macs come out =)
[08:26] <Hobbsee> Pegasos989: hmmm....try umount /dev/hdc then eject
[08:26] <trygve> but I discovered only too late that ubuntu can't read the hfsx partition
[08:26] <Gent> I suppose I'll just have to be a massive test case
[08:26] <Gent> but so far it's working excellent
[08:26] <trygve> so I'm plotting to borrow a friend's ibook so I can swap my data to my ipod, reformat this drive as regular hfsplus, and then swap it back
[08:26] <sls> Pegasos989: try umount -l
[08:26] <nalioth> trygve: it can read it just fine, i use to automount my shared hfs+ partition all the time, til my dumb self finally lost data
[08:27] <Pegasos989> sls, bash: unmount: command not found
[08:27] <Pegasos989> :D
[08:27] <Gent> nalioth, how long ago was that?
[08:27] <Gent> maybe some bugs got worked outs ince
[08:27] <nalioth> Pegasos989: umount
[08:27] <trygve> nalioth: I've mounted and read hfsplus partitions as well, the problem is mine is *hfsx*
[08:27] <Pegasos989> k
[08:27] <nalioth> Gent: about a month and a half ago
[08:27] <Gent> yeah, so maybe some bugs got worked out since ;)
[08:27] <Gent> how much data did you lose?
[08:27] <Pegasos989> Hobbsee, umount: /dev/hdc is not mounted (according to mtab)
[08:27] <nalioth> Gent: 27gb
[08:28] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[08:28] <trygve> the *case-sensitive* version of apple's hfsplus is a different fs type
[08:28] <technomanc1> have to wonder why they left the "n" out of umount
[08:28] <technomanc1> does it really save that many keystrokes?
[08:28] <sls> Pegasos989: sorry umount
[08:28] <Gent> I don't know, this looks like it's working too well to have issues
[08:28] <navarone> nalioth>any back ups?
[08:28] <Gent> I'm not gonna be doing heavy writes or anything
[08:28] <Gent> and actually, I just mv'd the whole user's home dir back to hfs+ in Linux and OS X is reading it fine
[08:28] <sls> Pegasos989: e.g. sudo umount -l /media/cdrom
[08:29] <sls> Pegasos989: or wherever it is mounted
[08:29] <Pegasos989> Hmmh. I put in a CD, it showed it for a while and then suddenly it didn't show me even the whole cd rom drive and the friggin' drive won't open
[08:29] <bob_4_a_day> technomanc1 heh   and now preclude it with 'sudo '   :)  lol
[08:29] <Pegasos989> sls, umount: /media/cdrom: not mounted
[08:30] <trygve> Pegasos989: "sudo eject /dev/cdrom"
[08:30] <sls> Pegasos989: ok, type mount (see what is mounted)
[08:30] <TGM> As stupid as this may sound. How do you install things that didn;t come with the OS? I've gone out and found a few programs here and there for Linux Ubuntu and sometimes Debian since it's debian based but I can't figure out how to install a one of them for the life of me. Help?
[08:30] <Hobbsee> TGM: run synaptic, and pick what you want from there.  make sure you have the extra repos
[08:30] <bob_4_a_day> i hope someone has filed a bug ont the cdrom errors in breezy.     i see that same problem every day here.
[08:31] <Hobbsee> !tell TGM about repos
[08:31] <TGM> I have
[08:31] <sls> TGM: dpkg -i (pakage name)
[08:31] <sls> TGM: then apt-get update
[08:31] <Madpilot> TGM: there's thousands of applications in the repos, available thru Synaptic or Install Applications
[08:32] <Pegasos989> sls, a few hard drives, usb device and some system things I dunno (proc, sysfs, devpts, several tmpfs). No cd drive there :/
[08:32] <TGM> I can;t find any of the install applications, but I've figured out synaptic
[08:32] <bob_4_a_day> !+repos
[08:32] <ubotu> repos is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[08:32] <trygve> TGM: if, after adding the universe & multiverse repositories, you can't find what you want in synaptic, you can install something by hand with dpkg if you find a .deb installer, and if you can only find a .rpm, you can convert that to a .deb with "alien".  if you can only find a tarball, follow the programs own instructions
[08:32] <Madpilot> TGM: at the bottom of the Applications menu, you'll have Add Applications
[08:32] <sls> Pegasos989: check your IDE cable and that everythin is pluged in well.
[08:32] <trygve> but synaptic is the preferred method and will make your life much easier
[08:32] <Madpilot> TGM: you can't run Synaptic & Add Apps at the same time, though
[08:33] <arnducky> Hmmm, where can I ask questions about configuring Bluetooth in Ubuntu?
[08:33] <Pegasos989> sls, do I need to turn off computer for that?
[08:33] <sls> Pegasos989: also your CD power cable may be loose
[08:33] <sls> Pegasos989: yes you do! please do not touch anythin in the pc when it is pluged in.
[08:34] <trygve> heh
[08:34] <Pegasos989> sls, the scary thing is, that my cd drive gets power, but even the button in it won't eject cd
[08:34] <Pegasos989> k
[08:34] <Pegasos989> So... booting -->
[08:34] <TGM> Madpiolot: I have a Run applications at the bottom of my applications menu, and I'm not entirely sure how to use it
[08:35] <trygve> I was once working inside a powered off (but still plugged in) computer, trying to troubleshoot a boot problem, and realized my hand resting on the bottom of the case had current running through it!
[08:36] <sls> trygve: considder yourself lucky!
[08:36] <dumbhead> bob_4_a_day: thanks
[08:36] <dumbhead> added deb file:/mnt/ubuntu/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[08:37] <trygve> why's that sls?
[08:37] <dumbhead> to my sources.list file and it has started the upgrade
[08:37] <sls> trygve: because there is enough current in a pc to harm you... plus the surge can damage parts in the pc
[08:38] <skple> where is sources.list?
[08:38] <technomanc1> it's /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:39] <sls> nite nite people...
[08:39] <trygve> true.  thankfully what I felt only seemed comparable to a 9v battery (far more pleasant than the time I accidentally took 120V across the chest)
[08:39] <Madpilot> TGM: just start it - w/o Synaptic running - and have a look thru it, the interface is fairly straightforward
[08:39] <sls> time to sleep
[08:39] <trygve> I don't play with electricity anymore
[08:39] <trygve> though, in this case, it did kill the video card
[08:39] <trygve> but the system otherwise seemed to come out okay, iirc
[08:40] <Mabus06> how do I set up dual boot?
[08:40] <harris> you have to partition your hard disk
[08:41] <nalioth> Mabus06: ubotu has msg'd you
[08:41] <Mabus06> when
[08:41] <harris> and then install the new os on the new partition
[08:41] <nalioth> Mabus06: check your PMs
[08:41] <harris> befoe you install the new OS
[08:41] <harris> or have some unallocated space free
[08:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell harris about dualboot
[08:42] <Insane> isn't is suppoed to be !tell harris about dualboot
[08:42] <Insane> !tell harris about dualboot
[08:42] <harris> I didn't ask lol
[08:43] <harris> i was helping out mabus06
[08:43] <Insane> Just saying.....
[08:43] <harris> no worries.
[08:43] <Insane> because someone did itwrongly
[08:43] <harris> that's a good function though still
[08:43] <HappyFool> Insane: you mean you think they did it wrongly ;) ubotu knows its name
[08:43] <Mabus06> so wait
[08:43] <Mabus06> I need to have windows installed first before ubuntu?
[08:44] <HappyFool> Mabus06: that is easiest
[08:44] <MrFarts> where are the openssl and bdb libraries in Ubuntu ?
[08:44] <harris> mabus06 what OS's are you duel booting?
[08:44] <Insane> i ave dual boot, but I also have two hard drives...lol
[08:44] <Mabus06> windows 2000 and breezy
[08:44] <harris> is windows 2000 already installed?
[08:44] <MrFarts> anyone ?
[08:44] <nalioth> Insane: either use !tell NICK about FACTOID or "ubotu, tell NICK about FACTOID"
[08:44] <d03boy> ok, I have the error in teh other terminal but I dont know how to get it in this one :|
[08:44] <HappyFool> MrFarts: libssl-dev, probably
[08:45] <Mabus06> no windows is not installed yet
[08:45] <TGM> Whenever I try to use the Run Application I browse, sellect the file that I want to run and it either takes me to thr archive manager or it says it can;t display the item due to there being to default action for that location D:
[08:45] <HappyFool> MrFarts: i would guess something similar for bdb (berkley database?)
[08:45] <MrFarts> HappyFool, nope
[08:45] <Mabus06> breezy is
[08:45] <HappyFool> MrFarts: use 'apt-cache search <stuff>-dev'
[08:45] <Pegasos989> !mount
[08:45] <ubotu> rumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[08:45] <MrFarts> libssl-dev works
[08:45] <MrFarts> bdb doenst
[08:45] <Mabus06> I have breezy on one partition, and /home is the bulk of my drive, on another partition, harris
[08:46] <MrFarts> HappyFool, thanks
[08:46] <harris> then your going to have to get qptparted and make a nfts partition for win 2000
[08:46] <makkk> is anyone in the mood for helping me configure my sound card? it will be exciting
[08:46] <Mabus06> qptparted?
[08:46] <harris> but you have to boot it off a boot disc
[08:46] <bob_4_a_day> guys ext# and reiser crash if you loose power, if this happens very many times you have a completely broken fs.   i need something that can stand pulling the plug on a running system.   any sujestions ?
[08:47] <harris> there's a linux system restore disc that comes in handy for that.
[08:47] <nalioth> Mabus06: qtparted can resize your ntfs partitions, no reinstalling necessary
[08:47] <glyn> what's the easiest way to get JRE for linux?
[08:47] <d03boy> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/blablabla/kdevelop3bla.deb (--unpack)
[08:47] <bob_4_a_day> !jre
[08:47] <ubotu> bob_4_a_day: Are you on ritalin?
[08:47] <bob_4_a_day> !java
[08:47] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:48] <HappyFool> !javadeb
[08:48] <ubotu> from memory, javadeb is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[08:48] <HansZwolle> d03boy: apt-get -f install
[08:48] <d03boy> : trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kdevelopblablabla', which is also in package kdevelop3-doc
[08:48] <d03boy> HansZwolle: thast what this is from
[08:48] <glyn> thanks
[08:48] <MrFarts> HappyFool, this sucks
[08:48] <HansZwolle> damn :/
[08:48] <nalioth> d03boy: why are you direct dpkging that, why not use synaptic or adept?
[08:48] <MrFarts> HappyFool, there is only db2, no  db4 or 3
[08:48] <Mabus06> nalioth, would /home be on a ntfs partition or no?
[08:48] <HappyFool> MrFarts: it looks like berkley db is in libdb4.2
[08:48] <d03boy> nalioth: this is the error from apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[08:48] <makkk> can someone help me with sound on my system?
[08:48] <HappyFool> MrFarts: that's what subversion uses, anyway
[08:48] <MrFarts> HappyFool,  i don't have libdb4.2 in that list ...
[08:48] <nalioth> Mabus06: no you have to have home on something writable by linux, preferably NOT fat32
[08:49] <MrFarts> libdb4.2-ruby1.6 - Interface to Berkeley DB for Ruby 1.6
[08:49] <MrFarts> libdb4.2-ruby1.8 - Interface to Berkeley DB for Ruby 1.8
[08:49] <MrFarts> libdb4.2-tcl - Berkeley v4.2 Database Libraries for TCL [module]
[08:49] <HappyFool> MrFarts: you're running breezy?
[08:49] <HansZwolle> hmm in this case, I always try apt-get remove kdevelop3bla
[08:49] <MrFarts> yeah
[08:49] <HappyFool> nooo
[08:49] <HansZwolle> and then dist-upgrade
[08:49] <Davethewave> anyone know much about ndiswrapper in ubuntu? I sort of ran into a problem
[08:49] <HansZwolle> and then, if possible, install that pkg again
[08:49] <harris> marbus0: grab this, burn it as a bootable disc, boot off the cd and run qtparted and work from there
[08:49] <MrFarts> i don't see libdb4.2 anywhere there
[08:49] <harris> http://www.sysresccd.org
[08:49] <nalioth> MrFarts: please dont paste in here
[08:49] <HappyFool> your search term is incorrect then
[08:49] <MrFarts> nalioth, three lines ?
[08:49] <HappyFool> MrFarts: anyway, there is a libdb4.2-dev
[08:49] <nalioth> harris: the live Ubuntu cd works fine
[08:49] <MrFarts> Happuf, i search for bdb
[08:50] <MrFarts> searched
[08:50] <d03boy> when I try removing kdevelop3 I get dependency errors.............
[08:50] <nalioth> MrFarts: read the /topic please
[08:50] <harris> ya that will work to, but I didn't know if he had the live cd or not
[08:50] <MrFarts> nalioth, it's not down for me
[08:50] <HappyFool> MrFarts: libdb4.2-dev is in main
[08:50] <nalioth> MrFarts: type /topic
[08:50] <harris> this file is smaller then downloading the live cd so i thought i might save him some time this way but your right
[08:50] <glyn> heh I get fast DLs on Ubuntu...64 megs in 2 minutes
[08:51] <MrFarts> nalioth, again, you're going to get anal over 3 lines ?
[08:51] <HappyFool> if you can't find it, your sources.list is incorrect or the repository mirror you're using is broken
[08:51] <MrFarts> nalioth, if you think that it's necessary to go to pastebin for 3 lines, ok
[08:51] <nalioth> MrFarts: there are approximately 600 people in here , do you know what 3 x 600 is?
[08:51] <MrFarts> nalioth, 1x600 is also a big number
[08:52] <MrFarts> not everyone talks at the same time
[08:52] <d03boy> farts, I am in terminal with only 80chars on a line, it takes up lots of space
[08:52] <nalioth> MrFarts: it's channel policy, and pasting into channels is rude
[08:52] <MrFarts> nalioth, i see, but kicking someone after he pastes into the channel is perfectly civil
[08:53] <MrFarts> nalioth, note that i'm using xchat so i don't even *see* the whole topic
[08:53] <nalioth> MrFarts: do not get all worked up about it, some ops BAN
[08:53] <Hobbsee> MrFarts: absolutely, that's also channel policy
[08:53] <MrFarts> Hobbsee, so call it that
[08:53] <d03boy> MrFarts: type /topic
[08:53] <MrFarts> Hobbsee, but it's a bit hypocritical to say that i'm being rude
[08:53] <d03boy> does anyone know how I can see what teh full name of a package is that is installed?
[08:53] <bob_4_a_day> MrFarts you can see the whole topic by pointing at it  or by typing /topic
[08:53] <arnducky> Can somebody help me create a bluetooth pair?  Ubuntu can see my device, and it can see ubuntu but I can't find anywhere in the UI where I can put in a key and/or configure Bluetooth authentication.
[08:54] <nalioth> dooglus: in synaptic
[08:54] <MrFarts> d03boy, i could have been told that *before* i was kicked
[08:54] <nalioth> d03boy: ins synaptic
[08:54] <it> People use 'it' a lot in their speech.
[08:54] <MrFarts> but it's ok, IRC is patholofical
[08:54] <bob_4_a_day> d03boy apt-cache show blah
[08:54] <Madpilot> is there a basic audio editor in the repos? I need to chop the last 60sec off a .ogg file...
[08:54] <cycom> MrFarts: It's the rules of the channel in which you are a guest.  Abide by them, or get your help from somwhere else.
[08:54] <d03boy> thanks bob
[08:54] <zcat[1] > is audacity a 'basic' audio editor?
[08:54] <glyn> I get this when I try to extract a tar tar: ./usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/demo/plugin/applets/Blink/Blink.class: Not found in archive
[08:54] <nemik> has anyone gotten a canon i-series printer to work?
[08:54] <nalioth> Madpilot: audacity
[08:54] <Hobbsee> hehe - i like the bit about having to ask about dapper meaning you shouldnt be using it
[08:54] <_SD_Keo|LAPPY|> bur[n] er, if you're around, thanks for the hint on firestarter =) works freakin' great
[08:55] <zcat[1] > or if you're sure it's exactly 60 seconds sox will do it
[08:55] <bob_4_a_day> it no they dont just ask no if it or no is used more .... :)
[08:55] <Madpilot> zcat[1] : is that command line?
[08:55] <harris> _SD_keo what was the hint?
[08:55] <d03boy> gar! why the hell does apt-get refuse to remove kdevelop? dependency problems?!
[08:55] <zcat[1] > yeah, sox is command line "sox infile outfile trim 60"
[08:55] <bigfoot1> to evolution users: how do i remove all my personal data (contacts, calendar appointments, etc)?
[08:55] <_SD_Keo|LAPPY|> he namedropped firestarter for a firewall/ics, works great
[08:56] <zcat[1] > (from memory.. might be trim 0 60 ..
[08:56] <zcat[1] > )
[08:56] <d03boy> this is gosh damn rediculous
[08:56] <bob_4_a_day> zcat[1]  for sox use 'play'
[08:56] <Madpilot> zcat[1] : that'll do, I need to loose the last 62 seconds exactly
[08:56] <harris> gottcha, cool
[08:56] <it> Anyone want to help me with installing wine?
[08:56] <TGM> Whenever I try to use the Run Application I browse, sellect the file that I want to run and it either takes me to thr archive manager or it says it can;t display the item due to there being to default action for that location so I'm still quite clueless as to how to install things that didn't come in packages in synaptic.
[08:56] <MrFarts> it, what's the problem
[08:56] <glyn> hmm I downloaded the tars from that javadeb link
[08:56] <MrFarts> it, apt-get install wine :)
[08:56] <glyn> and the java chat still won't work
[08:56] <nalioth> glyn: tars?>
[08:56] <it> MrFarts:  I don't know how to install it from Synaptic
[08:56] <it> I tried that, MrFarts
[08:56] <MrFarts> no there >
[08:56] <Hobbsee> glyn: did you install them?  they should have been .deb
[08:56] <nalioth> it: do you have universe adn multiverse repos enabled?
[08:57] <MrFarts> it, if you need to compile: untar; ./configure; make; make install
[08:57] <Madpilot> TGM: are you still running Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary)?
[08:57] <bob_4_a_day> it set your repos.
[08:57] <it> nalioth:  I think so.
[08:57] <bob_4_a_day> !repos
[08:57] <ubotu> methinks repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[08:57] <focker> you just need to add the repo to your sources.list
[08:57] <glyn> they were .deb
[08:57] <nalioth> it: wine is in the repos, check your settings
[08:57] <TGM> I beleive so.
[08:57] <glyn> but I get a tar error tar: ./usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/demo/plugin/applets/Blink/Blink.class: Not found in archive
[08:57] <TGM> I know it's hoary
[08:57] <focker> you can just go to winehq and get the repo it lists there
[08:57] <glyn> those are only for breezy?
[08:57] <Madpilot> TGM: OK, sorry. 5.04 doesn't have the Add App that 5.10 - Breezy - does. Just use Synaptic, and upgrade to Breezy soon
[08:58] <harris> anyone use any other distrubtion other then ubuntu?
[08:58] <Madpilot> !tell TGM about breezyupgrade
[08:58] <MrFarts> harris, not any more
[08:58] <harris> lol
[08:58] <it> Well okayer I have the repos in Synaptic and I can get winetools and stuff like libwine and libwine-dev but no wine
[08:58] <MrFarts> harris, what's the question ?
[08:58] <bob_4_a_day> harris yes
[08:58] <MrFarts> harris, everything sucks; ubuntu sucks a little less
[08:58] <glyn> is the javadeb only for breezy?
[08:58] <focker> I used fedora before this
[08:58] <harris> just curious, wonder if anyone could reccomend anything
[08:58] <Hobbsee> !tell it about wine
[08:58] <Hobbsee> it: there's an extra repo to get it from
[08:59] <harris> so far, from the ones i've tried, i think ubuntu is my favorite
[08:59] <focker> me too
[08:59] <d03boy> this is driving me nuts, I have no idea what to do
[08:59] <nalioth> d03boy: join #kubuntu-offtopic and i'll help you
[08:59] <harris> but there are so many, i thought I would get some feedback from people
[08:59] <focker> what are you trying to do d03boy?
[08:59] <d03boy> dist-upgrade that continually fails
[08:59] <glyn> what's the easiest way to get JRE for ubuntu hoary?
[09:00] <d03boy> anyone know how to toggle between channels with irssi?
[09:00] <pepsi> alt-n
[09:00] <focker> I would try just formatting the partitions and just installing it clean
[09:00] <linkd> harris: ive tried afew major ones and some not-so-major and ubuntu is my true love <3
[09:00] <pepsi> alt-1, 2, 3
[09:00] <harris> linkd what were the not-so-major ones you tried?
[09:00] <nalioth> d03boy: meta+window number
[09:00] <focker> if you set up your partitions right then you won't even loose your stuff
[09:01] <linkd> d03boy: there are like.. loads of ways. alt+n if alt is enabled as a metakey. otherwise esc+n will work. also /win n will work
[09:01] <nalioth> pepsi: it's not alt in some cases
[09:01] <d03boy> gotcha
[09:01] <harris> i'm looking for a non-mainstream distro to trip-boot with
[09:01] <glyn> what's the easiest way to get JRE for ubuntu hoary?
[09:01] <harris> just to fuck around with
[09:01] <pepsi> nalioth, speaking of alt
[09:01] <linkd> d03boy: and finially.. ctrl+N for "next" and ctrl+P for "previous"
[09:01] <MrFarts> harris, www.distrowatch.com
[09:01] <nalioth> glyn: follow the links
[09:01] <glyn> I did
[09:01] <harris> ya I know about the site, but you don't get user feedback from there
[09:01] <glyn> didn't work
[09:01] <harris> word of mouth style
[09:01] <bob_4_a_day> harris linux is linux the distros seem to be mainly a package management system and some custom configs..... that's about all the diff
[09:01] <MrFarts> harris, just go to the very bottom of the list
[09:01] <MrFarts> harris, you will get the most obscure linux ever
[09:02] <MrFarts> harris, BIG LINUX
[09:02] <glyn> what do I do once I download the .deb?
[09:02] <MrFarts> that's wht you want
[09:02] <pepsi> im using a mac keyboard and my i want to switch the alt and command keys so that alt isnt next to control
[09:02] <glyn> I tried extracting the data.tar.gz  and control.tar.gz
[09:02] <pepsi> i dunno what the hell command is mapped to
[09:02] <Hobbsee> glyn: sudo dpkg -i filename<tab>
[09:02] <glyn> and java doesn't work still
[09:02] <harris> ya I guess bob_4_a_day
[09:02] <pepsi> xkeycaps shows it as like #=# or something
[09:02] <glyn> ah okay
[09:02] <MrFarts> harris, it's in portugese
[09:02] <MrFarts> harris, you can't go wrong
[09:03] <harris> hahahahah i'm checking it out as we speak
[09:03] <pepsi> is there any way to _really_ switch the keys around?
[09:03] <bob_4_a_day> pepsi yep  keytables
[09:03] <pepsi> i got it to work my making a new keymap, but vmware doesnt agree with me when i do that
[09:03] <harris> the logo is fucking funny as helll
[09:03] <pepsi> i think vmware might steal the keyboard at some lower level or something
[09:03] <bob_4_a_day> yeah it may
[09:04] <Hobbsee> harris: language
[09:04] <harris> english
[09:04] <pepsi> i think i just need a better keyboard
[09:04] <Hobbsee> haha not
[09:04] <glyn> when I try to dpkg the .deb for JRE it tells me I have dependency problems
[09:04] <MrFarts> harris, you could always install some weird BSD too
[09:04] <Hobbsee> glyn: post the error to pastebin?
[09:04] <zcat[1] > netbsd!!
[09:04] <focker> even the BSDs use a lot of the same programs
[09:04] <harris> bsd might be a bit over my head at this point in time
[09:05] <focker> FreeBSD uses gnome
[09:05] <MrFarts> harris, it's about as difficult/easy to configure as linux
[09:05] <focker> so I don't think it would be that big of change
[09:05] <harris> i've never used bsd before so i'm speaking out of my ass right now
[09:05] <zcat[1] > i ran fbsd for a year. it's different than linux but not ness. harder.
[09:06] <linkd> i dont like bsd.. i dont know why. dont ask. i get into alot of fights with probsd people so ill shush
[09:06] <pepsi> heh, i got netbsd to install on some ancient hardware that i found in the alley
[09:06] <pepsi> it was awesome
[09:06] <bob_4_a_day> Hobbsee he seems not to take a hint
[09:06] <bam_> i wanna see a fight
[09:06] <Gent> hrm... now I seem to have another issue
[09:06] <bam_> go ahead bash bsd
[09:06] <focker> lol'
[09:06] <crimsun> (straying into -offtopic territory)
[09:06] <glyn> okay hobbsee
[09:06] <zcat[1] > less apps and harware supported.
[09:06] <Hobbsee> bob_4_a_day: clearly
[09:06] <glyn> I pasted it under jacked the ripper, hobbsee
[09:06] <Hobbsee> glyn: got a link to it?
[09:06] <Gent> is anyone else here yet running ubuntu PPC on a mac?
[09:07] <focker> I would like to try that
[09:07] <pepsi> Gent, i just helped my friend install it tonight
[09:07] <MrFarts> linkd, YOU ARE GAY BSD IS THE BEST OVER. LINUX IS NOTHING. BSD FOREVER
[09:07] <glyn> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5069
[09:07] <pepsi> i had to ssh to her like a million times
[09:07] <linkd> MrFarts: mmmk
[09:07] <Gent> pesi, I'm beyond installing it...
[09:07] <focker> haha
[09:07] <pepsi> we were fighting with yaboot
[09:07] <Hobbsee> glyn: cool
[09:07] <nalioth> Gent: lots of us run powerpc ubuntu
[09:07] <crimsun> bsd is clearly offtopic. quit it.
[09:07] <MrFarts> linkd, BSD IS 31337
[09:07] <zcat[1] > screw yahboot, use bootx
[09:07] <ISOcrates> hey guys. .  does anyone know how to configure a gamepad for fceu?
[09:07] <ISOcrates> or nestra?
[09:07] <nalioth> MrFarts: please save that for #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:07] <Gent> I've got it installed, got my home directory shared between the two... but if I play an mp3 through the system speakers it's a really low volume
[09:07] <pepsi> doesnt bootx require you have macos installed?
[09:07] <Hobbsee> !javadeb
[09:07] <ubotu> from memory, javadeb is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[09:07] <Gent> if I plug in headphones it's fine
[09:08] <zcat[1] > yeah, it does
[09:08] <nalioth> pepsi: it does.
[09:08] <bigfoot1> hi guys, i have an old pocket pc. how do i sync it with my breezy pc?
[09:08] <zcat[1] > i have a really tiny macos8 partition
[09:08] <Hobbsee> glyn: you want this one - http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb you got the wrong deb...
[09:08] <Gent> anyone know what could be causing that?
[09:08] <zcat[1] > I think redhat's default /boot partiton is bigger than my os8 :)
[09:09] <Gent> and what's really weird is the gnome sounds, like the little clicks and stuff, play at proper volume
[09:09] <glyn> hobbsee: oh thanks
[09:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Gent about sound
[09:09] <Gent> it just seems to be totem... or maybe gstreamer doing it
[09:09] <nemik> bigfoot1, i tried the same. gave up after a while. it is not easy
[09:09] <pepsi> theres a zillion different volume controls
[09:09] <bigfoot1> nemik! hi
[09:09] <bob_4_a_day> Gent 'sudo alsamixer '  set as you like.
[09:10] <harris> ubotu: tell harris how to woo a fair female
[09:10] <bigfoot1> i'm close to giving up. but I think i'm making bit of progress now and then.
[09:10] <nemik> bigfoot1, from #php on quakenet?
[09:10] <zcat[1] > that reminds me.. I need to write up a bug report, latest kernel broke my friend's four-soundcard config :)
[09:10] <bigfoot1> nemik: no
[09:10] <bigfoot1> nemik: what software do we need to snync?
[09:11] <crimsun> zcat[1] : please do. It works fine here on my 3-card config.
[09:11] <nemik> bigfoot1, np, just asking. i tried for a while but never worked. i tried with evolution and a sync program. hang on, i'll find you the tutorials i saw
[09:11] <MrFarts> zcat[1] , why does he have 4 soundcards ?
[09:11] <bigfoot1> nemik. thans
[09:11] <bigfoot1> thanks
[09:12] <zcat[1] > 'cos he's a nut.
[09:12] <bob_4_a_day> brb
[09:12] <glyn> hobbsee:I get a similar error
[09:12] <Hobbsee> glyn: the error this time, to the pastebin?
[09:12] <glyn> version of libasound2 on system is too old, and libc6 version this old
[09:12] <nemik> bigfoot1: this is what a follwed. didn't work on getting the contacts to my computer or computer calendar entries to my ppc: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30936&highlight=ipaq
[09:13] <focker> has anyone gotten a palm to sync with ubuntu
[09:13] <zcat[1] > one for yasr screen reader and regular sound, one recording radio 24/7, one for doing other recording (eg converting talking books) and a USB FM transmitter so he can listen to stuff when he's doing other things..
[09:13] <glyn> hobbsee: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5071
[09:14] <zcat[1] > it's quite a complex setup.
[09:14] <doojin> hi
[09:14] <doojin> Anyone who played deadhunt?
[09:14] <Hobbsee> glyn: you on hoary or breezy?
[09:14] <glyn> Hobbsee: Hoary
[09:14] <Hobbsee> ah...
[09:14] <nelo> Resume hibernate on a laptop does not work, the system restarts, but instead on going to restart point a flashing cursor comes up and sits there, any ideas if this could be address?
[09:15] <zcat[1] > and the msot recent kernel messed up /dev/mixer2, it all came right when I rolled back to the earlier kernel, so I think there's a bug somewhere
[09:15] <Hobbsee> glyn: try http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[09:15] <nemik> has anyone gotten a canon printer to work? especially an i-series?
[09:15] <glyn> that's the same one Hobbsee
[09:15] <glyn> err
[09:16] <Hobbsee> glyn: no it isnt, that's the hoary one...
[09:16] <Hobbsee> :P
[09:16] <Madpilot> nemik: have you checked the wiki's printer page?
[09:16] <Madpilot> !printer
[09:16] <ubotu> it has been said that printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[09:16] <glyn> alright
[09:16] <nalioth> focker: come back and ask me next week, i have a palm on order
[09:16] <penguinzdr> why i can't start the theme module from preferences menu?
[09:16] <nemik> thanks madpilot, i'll check
[09:16] <glyn> what the hell
[09:16] <nemik> !printer
[09:16] <glyn> my download started going at 3300 KB/sec
[09:16] <glyn> lol
[09:16] <toresbe> glyn: internal proxy?
[09:17] <glyn> no heh
[09:17] <mccbaka> is anyone familiar with Evolution? How can I remove the "contacts"/"calendars"/"tasks" bars?
[09:17] <pepsi> firefox seems to start downloading before you pick a location to save the file, but doesnt account for the time you took to choose the location
[09:17] <penguinzdr> why i can't start the theme module from preferences menu?
[09:17] <lundlund> Hello all. I just installed Breezy in the server configuration and I'm having a hard time figuring out the proper way to configure the network with a static IP. I'm fairly new to this distro.
[09:17] <pepsi> so if yo take ages to pick a place to save it, it will start out at  like 150M/sec
[09:18] <penguinzdr> wtf i can't even start theme module from command line!
[09:18] <crimsun> lundlund: you'd set the static ip in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:19] <nelo> Hello, Resume hibernate on a laptop does not work, the system restarts, but instead on going to restart point a flashing cursor comes up and sits there, any ideas if this could be address?
[09:19] <crimsun> lundlund: ''man 5 interfaces'' for examples
[09:19] <lundlund> Thanks!
[09:19] <penguinzdr> please help me!
[09:19] <glyn> that one worked, thanks
[09:20] <pepsi> i just recently found out that the setserial package lets me specify an /etc/serial.conf file so that i can pick which /dev/ttySx file is assigned to each port, and how the port gets setup at boot
[09:20] <pepsi> before i had to do setserial 10 times every time i booted
[09:20] <Madpilot> with sox, if I wanted to cut everything after 3min48sec off "16 - Track 16.ogg", what would my command line look like? (the man page is a typical man page, not much good...)
[09:20] <pepsi> but
[09:20] <Rotan> i hate windows
[09:21] <Rotan> i hate using it
[09:21] <Rotan> i REALLY do
[09:21] <pepsi> how does the kernel decide how the port gets setup if you dont explicitly tell it?
[09:21] <mrkoje> Rotan: I hate trying to fix windows
[09:21] <TGM> I didn't mind useing wondows. It just didn't like me.
[09:21] <linkd> i like that.. "trying"
[09:21] <Rotan> i really mind it
[09:21] <pepsi> would it be the job of the pci card driver to decide how to automagically setup the serial port?
[09:21] <TGM> I grew up useing it at home, at school I use Macintosh
[09:21] <zcat[1] > I love windows, it's a constant supply of easy cash jobs removing viruses and spyware..
[09:22] <focker> lol
[09:22] <mrkoje> linkd: thats how it is. I am trying to remote fix a winxp machine right now over vnc...
[09:22] <TGM> and I'm ready for a change so I decided to try this and now it seeming isn;t liking me much either x.X
[09:22] <intelikey> hehhe they didn't have computers when i was in school
[09:22] <mrkoje> zcat[1] : No kidding... im doing that now
[09:22] <Rotan> i'd rather have to panic when i open up my networking configs and delete everything than sit there and... TWEAK things
[09:22] <kapputu> what's the command to invoke the xfce file manager? It's not starting up for some reason
[09:22] <it> I got an error about my C compiler while compiling wine
[09:22] <Rotan> find workarounds...
[09:22] <mrkoje> when I was in school we had the apple II3
[09:22] <mrkoje> IIe
[09:22] <linkd> kapputu: nox
[09:22] <Rotan> basically, use a broken operating system
[09:22] <linkd> er
[09:22] <Madpilot> zcat[1] : you run one of those shops that charges $45 for antivirus/antispyware stuff?
[09:22] <zcat[1] > we had an Apple//
[09:22] <linkd> kapputu: rox rather
[09:22] <Rotan> i LOVE apple IIs
[09:23] <zcat[1] > Sorry, Apple ] [
[09:23] <Rotan> we had this game.. "snake racer" or something...
[09:23] <mrkoje> rotan: I was thinking about picking one of those up on ebay... pretty cheap and get the oregon trail game
[09:23] <mrkoje> lol... memories
[09:23] <it> I got an error about my C compiler while compiling wine
[09:23] <Rotan> :)
[09:23] <Rotan> memories...
[09:23] <linkd> it: might help if u gave abit more detail
[09:23] <focker> oregon trail was a beautiful game
[09:24] <penguinzdr> yes! i only needed to kill gnome-theme-manager.
[09:24] <intelikey> why compile wine ?
[09:24] <Rotan> buy nothin but ammo
[09:24] <it> linkd, checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:24] <mrkoje> focker: hell ya it was :)
[09:24] <focker> lol
[09:24] <Rotan> the injuns will help you out
[09:24] <intelikey> install it synaptic
[09:24] <it> intelikey I tried that already. I'm doing it cvs.
[09:24] <focker> haha
[09:24] <zcat[1] > "apt-get install build-essentials"
[09:24] <intelikey> k
[09:24] <intelikey> !b-e
[09:24] <ubotu> If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential.
[09:24] <mrkoje> thats what we should do... figure out how to port oregon trail to linux
[09:24] <pepsi> no s on build-essential
[09:24] <it> zcat[1] :  I've done that every day since I installed Ubuntu
[09:24] <focker> yeah I always sucked at the hunting
[09:25] <Rotan> is there real support for my MS 5-button IntelliMouse?
[09:25] <pepsi> i have a side button
[09:25] <focker> that would be awesome
[09:25] <pepsi> what the hell do you do with extra buttons?
[09:25] <mrkoje> I always got the fever, and my wagon always crashed in the river
[09:25] <Rotan> something that has been bothering me... it doesn't seem to know what to do with the side buttons
[09:25] <it> pepsi:  Click them to be annoying.
[09:25] <focker> lol
[09:25] <pepsi> exactly
[09:25] <Rotan> web browsing, forward and back
[09:26] <zcat[1] > Get a 104 button mouse, then you won't need to switch between mouse and keyboard at all..
[09:26] <Rotan> in gaming... you'd besurprised what you want bound to your mouse that you usually can't fit
[09:26] <Rotan> like voice com
[09:26] <Madpilot> Rotan: I think you can get it working - search the wiki
[09:26] <nelo> Hello, Resume hibernate on a laptop does not work, the system restarts, but instead on going to restart point a flashing cursor comes up and sits there, any ideas if this could be address?
[09:26] <Rotan> click-n-talk
[09:26] <pepsi> games are bad for you
[09:26] <Pegasos989> !mount
[09:26] <ubotu> [mount]  the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[09:26] <Rotan> coke is better
[09:26] <pepsi> isnt that obvious?
[09:27] <Hentai^XP> pepsi is crap
[09:27] <mrkoje> coke is my blood
[09:27] <Hentai^XP> coke is crap, drpepper is crap
[09:27] <TGM> I like Pepsi
[09:27] <pepsi> cartoon porn on windows is crap
[09:27] <TGM> they make Mt, Dew
[09:27] <TGM> and Mt. Dew is god.
[09:27] <Hentai^XP> indeed
[09:27] <mrkoje> cartoon porn
[09:27] <mrkoje> haha
[09:28] <Hentai^XP> or root beer
[09:28] <focker> I like diet mt dew
[09:28] <TGM> as do I
[09:28] <it> Sooooo about this whole wine thing
[09:28] <TGM> all the caffeine without the callories :D
[09:28] <TGM> Wine hates me too
[09:28] <it> why doesn't it recognize my C compiler?
[09:28] <TGM> that or it's my disk drive
[09:28] <it> Do I have to get gcc?
[09:28] <intelikey> offtopic
[09:28] <bigfoot1> nemik: is there no official tutorial from the sync-software makers themselves?
[09:29] <focker> you need to install the build-necesstial package
[09:29] <intelikey> it build-essential
[09:29] <TGM> My mom is gonanlend me another disk drive just to test it out
[09:29] <it> I have done build-essential
[09:29] <TGM> because It only read my CD's on rare occasions
[09:29] <nelo> it what is build-essential?
[09:29] <pepsi> it, you have to be more specific than "it doesnt recognize" your compiler
[09:29] <it> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:29] <it> that's what it said.
[09:30] <focker> it has gcc and some other stuff you need to compile
[09:30] <focker> c and C+=
[09:30] <focker> c++
[09:30] <it> I have all the build-essential stuff and then some.
[09:30] <focker> if you want to build anything from source you need it
[09:30] <Rotan> question here... who here knows the difference between "linux" and "gnu/linux"... and of those people, who backs the fsf, who backs the osi, and who just doesn't care?
[09:30] <it> Didn't you just hear me?
[09:30] <it> I have dont build-essential
[09:30] <it> and then some
[09:30] <pepsi> Rotan, who cares?
[09:30] <Rotan> i do
[09:30] <pepsi> ok
[09:31] <zcat[1] > I think I have a C# compiler too now.. snd123 wanted a whole lot of mono stuff to work..
[09:31] <pepsi> well i dont
[09:31] <Rotan> that's why i'm asking
[09:31] <focker> C# yuck
[09:31] <Rotan> did you miss the "who just doesn't care" part?
[09:31] <pepsi> Rotan, no, thats why i responded the way i did
[09:31] <Rotan> oh
[09:31] <Rotan> ...
[09:31] <Rotan> ok
[09:31] <mrkoje> gnu/linux linux fsf... whatever
[09:31] <Rotan> ...
[09:31] <intelikey> !enter
[09:31] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[09:31] <nalioth> it: it's a bug in GCC
[09:32] <Hentai^XP> Rotan neutral
[09:32] <Rotan> sorry, ubotu
[09:32] <crimsun> Rotan: quickly, GNU/Linux proponents advocate the FSF; Linux proponents don't care. However, it's not always so clear-cut...
[09:32] <mrkoje> haha as long as sco doesnt get the source for the linux 2.7 kernal lol
[09:32] <it> focker:  This is what it says when I build-essential: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:32] <zcat[1] > I stumbled into Jon Lech Jonsen's blog [so sue me]  while I was looking for libdvdcss .. and ended up playing with some other stuff he's written..
[09:32] <stu669> morning
[09:33] <Rotan> i know the difference, i wanted to narrow the field of respondents to the second question by presenting the first
[09:33] <focker> what is the message you get when trying to compile?
[09:33] <lundlund> Anyone have any idea what mon cherie means in French?
[09:33] <Rotan> what else has he written, zcat[1]  ?
[09:33] <it> focker:  checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:33] <zcat[1] > I really want to see him sue Sony for copyright infringement too, that would be so funny
[09:33] <linkd> lundlund: my friend. or something similar
[09:33] <zcat[1] > snd123 -- sound player in C#
[09:33] <linkd> lundlund: like my love or something
[09:34] <intelikey> lundlund my cabage
[09:34] <focker> go into synaptic and search for build-essential
[09:34] <it> intelikey:  I should chou was cabbage.
[09:34] <focker> you are missing some dev packages
[09:34] <lundlund> Girl just said it to me in an SMS
[09:34] <focker> like kernel headers
[09:34] <lundlund> I'm going to take it as a good sign
[09:34] <it> lundlund:  I think it's friend.
[09:34] <linkd> heh
[09:34] <it> lundlund:  why don't you check http://babelfish.altavista.com ?
[09:35] <intelikey> lundlund yeah i don't like cabage but the french seem too
[09:35] <focker> it make sure you have the kernel headers installed
[09:35] <it> focker:  How do I check if they are?
[09:35] <focker> search for kernel header in synaptic
[09:35] <focker> and search for build-esstenial
[09:36] <focker> I am sure you are missing it
[09:36] <it> linux-kernel-headers is installed
[09:36] <focker> I got that exact error before I installed it
[09:36] <it> focker:  What else do I need to be installed?
[09:36] <miki> hello people
[09:36] <HappyFool> the package should be linux-headers-386 (or -686, or whatever)
[09:36] <intelikey> it build-essential
[09:37] <lundlund> "My Darling" according to Google and some web pages
[09:37] <miki> guys,how can install the Opera browser on my Ubuntu OS?
[09:37] <focker> it: make sure you have lib6-dev
[09:37] <HappyFool> !tell miki about opera
[09:37] <focker> it I mean libc6-dev
[09:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell miki about opera
[09:37] <miki> yes,please...
[09:37] <pepsi> ubotu is shy
[09:37] <ubotu> pepsi: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:37] <HappyFool> heh. check your private messages ;)
[09:38] <miki> hehe
[09:38] <nalioth> miki: look at your private messages
[09:38] <miki> comeon now,i dont eat anybody...
[09:38] <pepsi> ?!
[09:38] <focker> it: if that doesn't work try dpkg-dev
[09:38] <HappyFool> build-essential should give you libc6-dev
[09:38] <linkd> mrkoje: nonono. dont do that
[09:38] <it> Same error.
[09:38] <focker> yeah it should
[09:38] <linkd> mrkoje: just install linux on it
[09:39] <focker> shoot
[09:39] <mrkoje> lol
[09:39] <ubuntu> hi
[09:39] <Madpilot> miki: you should have had at least one msg from the bot w/ Opera information
[09:40] <miki> guys, its my fist time here
[09:40] <miki> and im dumb,as u can see
[09:40] <ubuntu> i wanna knoe if i install linux on a seaperate hard disk will it interfere with my Xp
[09:40] <miki> where can i see the private messages?
[09:40] <Madpilot> !opera
[09:40] <focker> ubuntu: no it won't
[09:40] <linkd> ubuntu: it will not
[09:40] <ubuntu> ok
[09:40] <ubuntu> thankyou
[09:40] <Madpilot> miki: if you're using xchat, there should be new buttons sprouting across the top of the screen somewhere
[09:41] <Madpilot> miki: failing that, just go here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[09:41] <it> Damnit! I have to go into safe mode to get on MSN. Lame!
[09:41] <zcat[1] > or along the bottom?
[09:41] <it> I need webcam capabilities.
[09:41] <miki> ok, i got it
[09:42] <tiglionabbit> oh no, firefox wont start--  it doesn't even give an error when run from terminal.  What do I do?
[09:42] <it> the MSN servers just went down.
[09:42] <d03boy> I would get rid of windows completely if I could get my webcam to work in linux
[09:43] <tiglionabbit> what kind do you have?
[09:43] <it> d03boy:  I would too..and if I could get WC3.
[09:43] <d03boy> i forget, some really cheap one from best buy
[09:43] <mrkoje> tiglionabbit: I just had a similiar problem with firefox in windows
[09:43] <tiglionabbit> it: get w3c?
[09:43] <it> tiglionabbit:  to work on linux.
[09:43] <tiglionabbit> what do you mean?
[09:43] <it> WarCraft 3.
[09:43] <Hobbsee> it: msn servers seem semi-working here
[09:43] <tiglionabbit> w3c is world wide web consortium
[09:43] <tiglionabbit> oh =P
[09:44] <it> Hobbsee: maybe I should try..you know..reconnecting again
[09:44] <zcat[1] > i guess that doesn't help thought :)
[09:44] <Hobbsee> it: might be an idea, i just did
[09:44] <tiglionabbit> darn it what do I do about firefox?
[09:44] <tiglionabbit> I tried purging it and reinstalling it
[09:45] <focker> what is wrong with firefox?
[09:45] <tiglionabbit> it will not start
[09:45] <zcat[1] > w3c is a very simple browser..
[09:45] <zcat[1] > and the web consortium.
[09:45] <tiglionabbit> it gives no error message when run from terminal even
[09:45] <intelikey> focker it's ugly ?
[09:45] <focker> lol
[09:45] <focker> crap
[09:46] <TGM> I love Firefox. Best Web Browser I have yet to try
[09:46] <it> TGM, tru dat.
[09:46] <zcat[1] > rm -rf ~/.mozilla/firefox  perhaps?
[09:46] <tiglionabbit> hmm, but purge should have gotten rid of that, right?
[09:46] <intelikey> yeah
[09:46] <focker> should have but you should look
[09:46] <zcat[1] > should have.. perhaps..
[09:47] <focker> try whereis firefox
[09:47] <focker> and delete anything it returns
[09:47] <focker> then install it again
[09:47] <tiglionabbit> um but I already did a purge, focker
[09:47] <zcat[1] > find / -name *firefox* -exec rm {} \;
[09:47] <tiglionabbit> grah
[09:47] <zcat[1] > perhaps not :)
[09:47] <tiglionabbit> wtf
[09:48] <focker> just install a different browser then
[09:48] <tiglionabbit> but I like firefox
[09:48] <darksoul> why was WinEnforcer banned
[09:48] <intelikey> whereis wont find configs
[09:48] <it> I don't get it! my MSN won't connect.
[09:48] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: rename your ~/.mozilla-firefox or ~/.firefox
[09:48] <zcat[1] > I'd check there's no .mozilla/firefox directory befor anything else..
[09:48] <Madpilot> the latest release of Opera - 8.51 - works great on Breezy :)
[09:48] <focker> that's true
[09:49] <zcat[1] > .firefox, or whatever.. not sure where it goes
[09:49] <intelikey> ls -A
[09:49] <focker> tig: does any other app not work
[09:49] <D-> hello
[09:49] <tiglionabbit> focker: no..   what should I try?
[09:49] <tiglionabbit> yelp works
[09:50] <D-> whats ups with the new update that says no sources were changed just some auto backport ?
[09:50] <zcat[1] > "lynx" is nice.. very fast.
[09:50] <yaoming> hi all!
[09:50] <TGM> blarg, these upgrades are slow x.X
[09:50] <tiglionabbit> zcat[1] : I need javascript
[09:50] <intelikey> elinks
[09:50] <tiglionabbit> and images
[09:50] <zcat[1] > does elinks do javascript?
[09:50] <intelikey> yes
[09:50] <tiglionabbit> =\
[09:50] <zcat[1] > cool!
[09:51] <tiglionabbit> you serious?
[09:51] <intelikey> yes
[09:51] <tiglionabbit> grah, I don't get this, why can't I start firefox?
[09:51] <zcat[1] > that it does javascript, probably.. that you should use it.. probably not.
[09:51] <focker> tig: it doesn't give you any errors?
[09:51] <zcat[1] > open a terminal and try starting it there. it might give an error.
[09:52] <tiglionabbit> nope, no errors in the terminal
[09:52] <tiglionabbit> I said that long ago
[09:52] <intelikey> apt-cache show elinks
[09:52] <nalioth> zcat[1] : idk about elinks, but links2 does javascript and graphics
[09:52] <zcat[1] > oh, sorry.. didn't read that
[09:52] <tiglionabbit> nick@kamek:~$ firefox
[09:52] <tiglionabbit> nick@kamek:~$
[09:52] <yaoming> i added this line to my menu.lst:splashimage=(hd0,10)/boot/grub/ubuntu.xpm.gz
[09:52] <tiglionabbit> hey
[09:53] <tiglionabbit> if I run it as root it runs
[09:53] <intelikey> tiglionabbit 'which firefox '
[09:53] <tiglionabbit> wtf, why
[09:53] <yaoming> but when i boot my pc all i see is a black screen with a blinking caret
[09:53] <zcat[1] > did you try 'rm -rf .mozilla/firefox/' ?
[09:53] <tiglionabbit> yes!
[09:53] <zcat[1] > hmm.. ok
[09:53] <tiglionabbit> I already said that, zcat[1]
[09:53] <focker> tig: does it have the correct permissions set?
[09:53] <tiglionabbit> uh...
[09:53] <yaoming> who can tell whats wrong with my menu.lst?
[09:53] <yaoming> i added this line to my menu.lst:splashimage=(hd0,10)/boot/grub/ubuntu.xpm.gz
[09:53] <yaoming> but when i boot my pc all i see is a black screen with a blinking caret
[09:53] <yaoming> who can tell whats wrong with my menu.lst?
[09:54] <tiglionabbit> hmm, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 30 2005-11-26 00:41 /usr/bin/firefox -> ../lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox
[09:54] <intelikey> tiglionabbit 'ls -l `which firefox` '
[09:54] <nalioth> yaoming: please dont repeat so often
[09:54] <yaoming> sorry
[09:54] <tiglionabbit> I guess i should chmod it.  But how'd it get that way?
[09:54] <zcat[1] > lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 30 2005-11-23 12:22 /usr/bin/firefox -> ../lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox
[09:54] <focker> that's really strange
[09:55] <zcat[1] > That's normal..
[09:55] <tiglionabbit> it is?
[09:55] <focker> really
[09:55] <focker> ?
[09:55] <HappyFool> symbolic links take on the permissions of their target
[09:55] <intelikey> now ls -l /lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox
[09:55] <Daemon> yaoming: is the splash made correctly?
[09:55] <intelikey> no
[09:55] <tiglionabbit> intelikey: hm why?
[09:55] <Daemon> and I take it if you remove the splace entry it works?
[09:56] <zcat[1] > -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 11170 2005-10-11 04:31 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox
[09:56] <intelikey> to see the real permissions of the executable
[09:56] <yaoming> yes
[09:56] <zcat[1] > (mine works.. if yours is the same it might work too :-)
[09:56] <lundlund> when I do sudo apt-get upgrade it tell me that linux-image-386 and linux-restricted-modules-386 have been held back. Why is this?
[09:56] <kapputu> why doesn't mplayer play files over smb?? Do I need to install anything to play .wmv files?
[09:56] <D-> can any one explain me this new update which says no sources were changed ?
[09:56] <tiglionabbit> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 11170 2005-10-10 08:31 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox
[09:56] <intelikey> it is not a permission error
[09:56] <intelikey> that is world exec
[09:56] <tiglionabbit> what are you talking about?
[09:57] <tiglionabbit> and how come I can run it as root but not as me?
[09:57] <intelikey> lock file probably
[09:57] <tiglionabbit> what?
[09:57] <tiglionabbit> please explain
[09:57] <zcat[1] > hmm .. lock file should have been in .mozilla/firefox/ which has been rm'd twice already
[09:58] <tiglionabbit> yup
 and how come I can run it as root but not as me?   <intelikey> lock file probably   <---- maybe in /var/run   if not in your home.....   but the permissions are not the reason
[09:58] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: use sudo -i
[09:58] <zcat[1] > also lockfile would pop up a dialog saying it's already in use
[09:59] <yaoming> Daemon:if i insert a # before the line (splashimage=(hd0.10)~~~),it normally works.
[09:59] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: it's not good practice to run firefox as root though-- it even warns me against it
[10:00] <tiglionabbit> any ideas?
[10:00] <intelikey> yaoming then there is something wrong with that line.   fix that line and you have fixed grub
[10:00] <tiglionabbit> drwxrwxrwt  13 root root 4096 2005-11-26 00:50 /tmp/
[10:00] <yaoming> Daemon:my /boot partition was mounted on hda11
[10:01] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: if you've renamed your ~/.firefox or ~/.mozilla-firefox
[10:01] <bigfoot1> i deleted/uninstalled the evolution2 packages (because I wanted to get rid of all my personal data), but when I reinstalled the evolution 2 packages, my data are still there. help
[10:01] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: hm?
[10:01] <zcat[1] > nalioth, It's .mozilla/firefox -- I already asked twice :)
[10:01] <tiglionabbit> I haven't renamed anything.  I've deleted it many times
[10:01] <tiglionabbit> trying to fix this
[10:01] <focker> bigfoot: rm .evoltution
[10:02] <intelikey> yaoming 'sudo fdisk -l '  should list all partitions   and 'mount '  should give all mount information.
[10:02] <bigfoot1> where's the mailing list for ubuntu users? I want to send them an email for help
[10:02] <yaoming> intelikey:thanks ,i try this
[10:03] <nalioth> bigfoot1: lists.ubuntu.com, iirc
[10:03] <focker> hey bigfoot1: rm -rf ~.evolution
[10:03] <bigfoot1> focker, that will remove my personal data (contacts, calendar appointments, etc) too, yes?
[10:03] <intelikey> .evolution   or   .evolution*    :)
[10:04] <yaoming> intelikey:by the way ,how to open DMA?
[10:04] <nalioth> bigfoot1: it will, yes.
[10:04] <focker> it should
[10:04] <focker> that's where it all should be
[10:04] <bigfoot1> intelikey: what do you mean by your last comment?
[10:04] <Rotan> omg
[10:04] <Rotan> i just found the ubuntu artwork fiasco
[10:05] <tiglionabbit> okay that's weird, it works now.  This is what I did, but it makes no sense to me either-   sudo -i; firefox; (it says
[10:05] <tiglionabbit> (firefox-bin:9576): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display
[10:05] <intelikey> bigfoot1 that it may be  .evolution2 or something   i don't know....  like  .xchat  changed to .xchat2
[10:05] <bigfoot1> focker: what i really want to do is just start off with a clean slate with evolution2 (none of my personal data from a previous sync). Is there a more efficient way to clear evo2 of my data?
[10:05] <Rotan> :)
[10:05] <tiglionabbit> then I kill firefox, then get out of sudo -i, and run it again and it works as me..
[10:05] <tiglionabbit> random fiddling =\
[10:06] <intelikey> bigfoot1 when rm'ing config dirs  ending with * is not bad practice
[10:06] <focker> tig: wow that's strange
[10:06] <tiglionabbit> but I guess nalioth was correct.  Running it under sudo -i fixed it
[10:06] <zcat[1] > tiglionabbit, something else occured to me (although you've already fixed it) -- killall firefox-bin  might have fixed it.. old firefox that hasn't quite quit, but the new firefox process still sees it running?
[10:06] <bigfoot1> focker, nalioth: i'm on evo2, so should the command still be "rm -rf ~.evolution" or should it be something like "rm -rf ~.evolution2"?
[10:07] <Rotan> anyone know if the nude artwork is still available?
[10:07] <focker> bigfoot1: maybe evolution2
[10:07] <Rotan> :)
[10:07] <tiglionabbit> zcat[1] : I'd done that--   I did ps aux | grep firefox and killed the process it returned
[10:07] <intelikey> bigfoot1 just add a *  and it will cover either
[10:07] <zcat[1] > ahhh, ok..
[10:07] <Rotan> and is this fiasco why i have seen so much nude+ubuntu themed wallpapers?
[10:07] <focker> bigfoot1: you can check by ls -a ~
[10:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bigfoot1 about cli
[10:08] <tiglionabbit> Rotan: it's uh, humanity
[10:08] <nalioth> bigfoot1: in your terminal, type "ls -al "
[10:08] <Rotan> ?
[10:08] <intelikey> just add *
[10:08] <intelikey>    just add *
[10:08] <Rotan> whaddo you mean, tiglionabbit?
[10:08] <intelikey>  lalla  la la la
[10:09] <intelikey>               just add *
[10:09] <zcat[1] > humanity == almost-nude people
[10:09] <tiglionabbit> lol
[10:09] <tiglionabbit> ya
[10:09] <nalioth> somebody hit intelikey's reset button
[10:09] <viviersf> tmpfs                 507M   13M  494M   3% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/volatile <---- wtf is that ?
[10:09] <bigfoot1> nalioth, i did "ls -al" i found 2 relevant things: .evolution and evolution2. which?
[10:09] <nalioth> bigfoot1: rename both of them
[10:09] <frank23> Rotan: look for ubuntu-calendar-* packages
[10:09] <bigfoot1> nalioth:  i don't want to rename. I want to remove.
[10:10] <frank23> Rotan: look for november is my favorite
[10:10] <nalioth> bigfoot1: do as you wish
[10:10] <bigfoot1> nalioth: i want to, but i don't know how to go about doing so.
[10:10] <ubuntu> hola
[10:10] <Rotan> :)
[10:10] <nalioth> bigfoot1: read the cli blurb ubotu sent you
[10:11] <nalioth> bigfoot1: it is very interesting reading
[10:11] <zcat[1] > zcat@xena:~$ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-calendar
[10:11] <bigfoot1> intelikey: i'm hearing you. i did rm -rf ~.evolution*". what is that supposed to do? I want to remove my evo2 data, not rename them.
[10:12] <bigfoot1> nalioth: i just read the cli blurb you told uboto to send me.
[10:12] <nalioth> bigfoot1: that command you keep printing will do nothing but bad things
[10:12] <nalioth> bigfoot1: rm ~/.evo*
[10:12] <tiglionabbit> bigfoot1: that should be ~/.evolution/*
[10:12] <bigfoot1> what bad things, nalioth?
[10:13] <nalioth> bigfoot1: command syntax is very important. esp when using destructive commands
[10:13] <cubex> hello everyone
[10:13] <tiglionabbit> =P isn't it a little silly to use the -r option and a wildcard in the same expression?
[10:13] <bigfoot1> do i do "rm ~/.evo*" (as nalioth says) OR "rm ~/.evolution/*" (as tiglionabbit says)?
[10:13] <yintelike> nalioth you wont beleave this.   you said somebody hit me reset button  so i did.
[10:13] <nalioth> bigfoot1: do both.
[10:13] <tiglionabbit> bigfoot1: it doesn't matter, they'll both do the same thing as long as you use the -r option
[10:14] <bigfoot1> nalioth: ok.
[10:14] <cubex> does anybody know which package owns the file /lib/modules/<kernel-version>/volatile/nvidia.ko ?
[10:14] <bigfoot1> thank you for your patienc.
[10:14] <tiglionabbit> just do "rm -r ~/.evolution
[10:14] <tiglionabbit> "
[10:14] <cubex> i tried dpkg -S nvidia.ko, but it didn't find anything
[10:14] <cubex> how can i figure this out?
[10:14] <sklav> Hi guys
[10:14] <sklav> w
[10:14] <zcat[1] > cubex, restricted-modules
[10:14] <meme_> hello
[10:14] <nalioth> cubex: install apt-file, run "sudo apt-file update" and then use apt-file to search
[10:15] <sklav> anybody familiar with spamassassin and bayesian training?
[10:15] <yintelike> wont apt-cache search find it too
[10:15] <cubex> nalioth, zcat[1]  thanks a lot guys, i'll try it :)
[10:15] <meme_> i need help on creating GDM Themes
[10:15] <bigfoot1> i did "rm ~/.evo*" but i still have a folder called evolution2, which has some files and subfolders.
[10:15] <cubex> yintelike nope, it searches for packages
[10:15] <sklav> im curious as to when you train it certain email do you still have to keep them or can they be deleted?
[10:15] <cubex> anyway, thanks again
[10:16] <meme_> does anyone know where "greeter.dtd" is located  ?
[10:16] <meme_> anyone
[10:17] <meme_> plz
[10:17] <bob_4_a_day> meme_ 'find /usr -name greeter.dtd '
[10:17] <meme_> k wait...
[10:18] <sklav> so is anybody any good at spamassassin?
[10:18] <meme_> no luck
[10:18] <meme_> no results bob
[10:18] <meme_> :(
[10:18] <darksoul> anyone use gentoo here
[10:18] <bob_4_a_day> meme_ 'find /etc -name greeter.dtd '    sorry maybe in
[10:19] <meme_> sure
[10:19] <sklav> try the following
[10:19] <NoUse> darksoul I used to, but you might find some more proficient gentoo users in #gentoo
[10:19] <sklav> find /* -name greeter.dtd
[10:19] <meme_> nope again
[10:20] <meme_> wud that srch my entire disk sklav?
[10:20] <sklav> meme_, is it even installed?
[10:20] <bob_4_a_day> that will dump lots of error crap to the screen sklav
[10:20] <sklav> yes meme
[10:20] <sklav> yes for dev
[10:20] <bob_4_a_day> yes with many errors
[10:20] <meme_> well...i hv gdm
[10:20] <sklav> yes and no
[10:20] <darksoul> NoUSe: meh.. im prob going to stick with ubuntu? why... here.. ill put it in the clear... 11 hours later 10$ less. not installed. 2 reinstalls. grub = a little son of a......
[10:20] <TigerAC3> I just put a nic in my box, and it is listed using lspci.  How do I set it up? Right now my internet connection is though my usb cable modem.
[10:20] <david__> hello, i have a problem with the new kernel in ubuntu: the cpu consumption is always at 100%
[10:20] <meme_> i am tryin to make my own gdm theme
[10:20] <bob_4_a_day> and it may error out rather than going on.....
[10:21] <bob_4_a_day> did you check /etc like i said ?
[10:21] <meme_> all i want is to 'get the output of "fortune" displayed as Welcome text' in the greeter
[10:21] <meme_> yes bob
[10:21] <meme_> no results
[10:22] <eugi> hi everybody
[10:22] <soci0path> how do I get a list of frequently used programs to show up in the menu?
[10:22] <sklav> so nobody using bayesian filter with spamassassin?
[10:22] <bob_4_a_day> one other place i'd look is /lib  but that may error also
[10:22] <eugi> can anyone help me to configure an Epson Printer?
[10:22] <eugi> on Ubuntu
[10:23] <meme_> i'll try that bob...
[10:23] <sklav> try this meme_  'sudo find / -name greeter.dtd'
[10:23] <bob_4_a_day> cups ?
[10:23] <sklav> that should eliminate error on screen
[10:23] <arnducky> Is anyone else having nasty problems with making KDE Bluetooth softeare create a pair?   Both devices can see each other but Ubuntu ignores pairing (connection) attempts.
[10:23] <bob_4_a_day> sklav nope.
[10:23] <sklav> it works for me
[10:23] <bob_4_a_day> try it and see.
[10:23] <sklav> i just did
[10:23] <meme_> trying
[10:24] <bob_4_a_day> then they have drastically changed find .
[10:24] <eugi> can anyone help me to configure an Epson Printe
[10:24] <sklav> if the sudo part fails
[10:24] <sklav> su - root
[10:24] <david__> hello, i have a problem with the new kernel in ubuntu: the cpu consumption is always at 100%
[10:24] <sklav> and then try the search
[10:24] <sklav> david__, which kernel?
[10:24] <bob_4_a_day> all older 'find' commands ran on / would error on everything you didn't have perms for.
[10:24] <sklav> and if you return to the previous does the same issue happen?
[10:25] <sklav> i know\
[10:25] <david__> the last digit is .10
[10:25] <sklav> that is why i asked him to su or sudo
[10:25] <david__> and .9 works perfectly
[10:25] <bob_4_a_day> su - root      :)
[10:25] <bob_4_a_day> not on a default ubuntu you wont
[10:25] <sklav> i know
[10:25] <sklav> ;)
[10:25] <nalioth> sklav: we dont use su here, sudo -i works well
[10:25] <sklav> that is why i mentionned sudo
[10:25] <sklav> old habit
[10:26] <sklav> su - root has been my friend
[10:26] <meme_> guys...' sudo find / -name greeter.dtd'  also returned no results :(
[10:26] <bob_4_a_day> !root
[10:26] <ubotu> hmm... root is rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:26] <meme_> wat do i do
[10:26] <sklav> i know
[10:26] <sklav> i found out the hard way about root account
[10:26] <sklav> and first account created is an admin account
[10:26] <d03boy> no password? doesnt that mean anyone could easily become root?
[10:27] <tiglionabbit> d03boy: no
[10:27] <sklav> on linux no password mean no login most of the time
[10:27] <meme_> bob
[10:27] <tiglionabbit> it means nobody can become root unless they are on the sudoers list
[10:27] <bob_4_a_day> meme_ if you have used 'find / -name blah ' and it returned without any output then blah is not on your computer, or find is not fixed it is broken.
[10:27] <d03boy> ok
[10:27] <meme_> k
[10:28] <meme_> or can it be that greeter.dtd is inside some archive ?
[10:28] <sklav> so spamassassin gurus on tonight?
[10:28] <eugi> can anyone help me to configure an Epson Printer??PLEASE
[10:28] <bob_4_a_day> meme_ you can try 'sudo find / -name *blah* '   and if it is a broken find that should work anyway.
[10:29] <meme_> have u ever tried to make a gdm theme bobo?
[10:29] <tiglionabbit> bobo?
[10:29] <meme_> sorie bob
[10:29] <Pegasos989> !mount
[10:29] <ubotu> rumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[10:29] <sklav> !spamassassin
[10:29] <ubotu> sklav: I give up, what is it?
[10:29] <bob_4_a_day> meme_ the asterisks are supposed to be there in the command i gave.   and no i dont play with gui much
[10:29] <tiglionabbit> add partitions to your filesystem?  That sounds very misleading
[10:30] <bob_4_a_day> why ?
[10:30] <meme_> ohhh
[10:30] <tiglionabbit> how about make partitions accessible?
[10:30] <TigerAC3> I just put a nic in my box, and it is listed using lspci.  How do I set it up? Right now my internet connection is though my usb cable modem.
[10:30] <tiglionabbit> if I read that and didn't know what mount did, I'd think it was a partitioning program
[10:30] <bob_4_a_day> mounting other partitons on the filesystem you have is what is actually happening.
[10:31] <sklav> tiglionabbit, look in /etc/network/interface
[10:31] <bigfoot1> regarding sending email to the ubuntu email list: is there a way to spam-proof your email address? I understand that they post/archive the emails onto ubuntu.org
[10:31] <tiglionabbit> sklav: me what?
[10:31] <sklav> your asking about your NIC card
[10:31] <tiglionabbit> I didn't ask anything
[10:31] <meme_> will the ** make it search inside archives ?
[10:31] <sklav> my mistake
[10:31] <sklav> im half asleep
[10:32] <sklav> im looking for spamassassin info
[10:32] <bob_4_a_day> no it will expand the search to include anything that contains that string.
[10:32] <sklav> and im getting frustrated
[10:32] <meme_> k
[10:32] <tiglionabbit> well gnite
[10:32] <nalioth_zZz> sklav: uncle google will help you when these lazy folks will not
[10:32] <meme_> sklav i wish i cud help but i am a n00b
[10:32] <sklav> nalioth_zZz, ive been googling for a week
[10:32] <sklav> the answer are contradicting
[10:33] <nalioth_zZz> sklav: then you should probably be teaching us
[10:33] <Toma-> sklav: what is ure problem?
[10:33] <sklav> after training bayes
[10:33] <sklav> can emails be deleted
[10:33] <totti> what is your name
[10:33] <Toma-> what?
[10:33] <bob_4_a_day> search for  firefox on ~  might return nothing but searching for  *firefox* would find .mozilla-firefox   as well as anything else with 'firefox' in the name
[10:33] <sklav> some posts say no and others say yes because older email that are trained will start creating false positives on odler date stamps
[10:33] <sklav> and so on
[10:34] <bob_4_a_day> meme_  ^
[10:34] <meme_> yes
[10:34] <Toma-> sklav: have you asked in other channels?
[10:34] <meme_> bob
[10:34] <bob_4_a_day> search for  firefox on ~  might return nothing but searching for  *firefox* would find .mozilla-firefox   as well as anything else with 'firefox' in the name
[10:34] <sklav> yes on spamassassin
[10:34] <sklav> but im waiting
[10:34] <sklav> now
[10:34] <meme_> ya got that
[10:34] <bob_4_a_day> k
[10:34] <Toma-> sklav: try on #linux, slackware and fedora. lots of guru's in those channels
[10:35] <kestas> is there any way to get a google toolbar for gnome?
[10:35] <bob_4_a_day> just trying to put the tools in your hands so you can build what you want......
[10:35] <sklav> i will leave it for tommorow i guess
[10:35] <sklav> its 4:35am here
[10:36] <sklav> and in 2 hours i will be officially up 24 hrs straight
[10:36] <sklav> hehe
[10:36] <booom> hi all
[10:36] <Toma-> good work!
[10:36] <linkd> hi booom
[10:36] <Toma-> :)
[10:36] <bob_4_a_day> new englanders .....
[10:36] <booom> need help for network
[10:37] <bob_4_a_day> sure i need some help for network booom
[10:37] <booom> i have D-Link 504T
[10:37] <bob_4_a_day> :)
[10:37] <omeg> Hi everybody. How would I take a screenshot of something that I'm doing? (Not a screenshot of the desktop, but one of a context menu somewhere.)
[10:37] <Toma-> booom: whats the problem?
[10:38] <booom> i dont have exit to net
[10:38] <sexcopter8000m> omeg, if you press alt and the print screen key, it'll take a screenshot of the window in focus
[10:38] <Toma-> booom: you cant connect to the net?
[10:39] <booom> yes
[10:39] <Toma-> whats the error?
[10:39] <booom> sorry my english is bad
[10:39] <booom> :(
[10:39] <omeg> aha. I tried print screen, but it wouldn't work somehow.
[10:39] <linkd> ah.. D-Links.. i have one of those. they keep overwriting resolv.conf. means it acts like u cant connection.. cuz u cant resolve
[10:39] <booom> no any connection
[10:39] <linkd> *connect
[10:39] <cubex> hello
[10:40] <linkd> unfortunately i dont know the solution either. i dont use D-Link products anymore.
[10:40] <bob_4_a_day> and if you press alt+printscreen+B it will reboot your box   :)
[10:40] <omeg> Doesn't seem to work
[10:40] <cubex> zcat[1]  turns out that linux-restricted-modules doesn't contain nvidia.ko
[10:40] <omeg> I can't paste anything in GIMP.
[10:40] <cubex> zcat[1]  is there any other way to search?
[10:40] <omeg> So it either did not take the screenshot or GIMP is faulty
[10:41] <sexcopter8000m> omeg, for me in ubuntu, when i press the print screen key it brings up a window with options to save the image etc...
[10:41] <linkd> GIMP can "accquire" screenies itself omeg
[10:41] <bob_4_a_day> !nvidia
[10:41] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:41] <Toma-> cubex: apt-file search nvidia.ko
[10:41] <linkd> File > accquire
[10:41] <cubex> Toma- where is apt-file? universe?
[10:41] <omeg> sexcopter8000m: that does work, but not when I've just clicked a drop-down menu.
[10:41] <Madpilot> omeg: there's a gnome screenshot util that's always running - it doesn't pop up when you hit the Print Screen button?
[10:41] <Toma-> cubex: maybe
[10:41] <Toma-> !info apt-file
[10:41] <ubotu> apt-file: (APT package searching utility -- command-line interface), section universe/base, is optional. Version: 2.0.7ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 92 kB
[10:42] <linkd> the print screen key thing is a gnome thing.
[10:42] <Toma-> correwct-a-mundo
[10:42] <cubex> thanks, i'll check
[10:42] <omeg> Madpilot: it does, but not when I've got a drop-down menu open.
[10:42] <linkd> omeg: file > acquire > screenshot :)
[10:42] <linkd> omeg: you can "time" screenshots
[10:42] <linkd> with like a delay
[10:43] <bob_4_a_day> cant do that with a menu open either
[10:43] <linkd> in GIMP that is
[10:43] <omeg> Aha
[10:43] <omeg> That works
[10:45] <yamiLuceid> Hello anyone experienced with totem-xine? ><
[10:45] <locomorto> yamiLuceid: whats wrong?
[10:45] <sklav> later all
[10:46] <yamiLuceid> Well whenever I try playing mkv or ogm files (they have subtitles and audio tracks included) I'm unable to switch subtitles or audio tracks
[10:46] <yamiLuceid> It's dimmed
[10:46] <linkd> omeg: if ur interested in getting rid of the GIMP tab on ur taskbar in ur screenies. 2 things u can do. either open GIMP on a seperate desktop. or use another screenie tool.. like scrot. that has a timer on it also.
[10:46] <linkd> omeg: bit of pointless extra info there
[10:48] <yamiLuceid> Already spent hours googling about it, all I see are people happoly enjoying their totem-xine working perfectly ><
[10:48] <yamiLuceid> happily*
[10:48] <bob_4_a_day> gimp     thats kinda crippled isn't it
[10:48] <linkd> cippled?
[10:48] <linkd> *crippled
[10:49] <ulisse> hello people
[10:50] <ulisse> what is the difference between the kernel recovery mode and the normal one?
[10:50] <yamiLuceid> locomorto? ><
[10:51] <ulisse> I have a pc hanging on login with normal mode, but it works if I run gdm from recovery mode
[10:51] <locomorto> yamiLuceid: try using vlc
[10:51] <yamiLuceid> Is there any other way?
[10:52] <bob_4_a_day> resent upgrade ulisse ?
[10:52] <ulisse> fresh install, bob_4_a_day
[10:54] <bob_4_a_day> haven't seen that yet.    with upgrade some have been having to 'rm ~/.X* ~/.I* '    but not on a fresh install....
[10:54] <Toma-> yamiLuceid: have you installed all the needed plugins?
[10:55] <renato> ciao
[10:55] <ulisse> bob_4_a_day, the pc is a 64bit one, but I installed ubuntu32, could it be related?
[10:56] <bob_4_a_day> ulisse if you know anything about cli you can see what it's doing by booting and when it asks for login hit alt+f1 and login there  kill gdm and startx manually to see what errors out.
[10:56] <yamiLuceid> Toma-, I'm pretty sure I have
[10:56] <Toma-> yamiLuceid: do you get any output in the terminal?
[10:56] <yamiLuceid> I followed the ubuntuguide about codecs
[10:57] <ulisse> bob_4_a_day, when I get the login screen I can't hit any key, it freezes abruptly.
[10:57] <ulisse> bob_4_a_day, is it the same if I startx from recovery mode?
[10:57] <ronaldinho> you are pig
[10:58] <bob_4_a_day> it could be 64bit is kinda over my head     i hear about people running 32bit ub on k7's but i know nothing about k7
[10:58] <Toma-> ahh bbl
 bob_4_a_day, is it the same if I startx from recovery mode? <--- no
[10:58] <ronaldinho> where do you live
[10:58] <ulisse> bob_4_a_day,  I'll try via ssh from another pc...
[10:58] <bob_4_a_day> k
[10:59] <bob_4_a_day> ronaldinho whom ?
[11:00] <ronaldinho> can you speak indonesian?
[11:00] <topyli> is building mono and beagle from debian sources something a mortal could actually do? i've never tried to build mono
[11:00] <bob_4_a_day> no ronaldinho
[11:01] <mamoru> hello. I've got a problem with sound under ubuntu, please help me. When I login as the first user the sound works OK. If I create another user (adduser foo), the sound doesn't work for the new user. It still works for the first user.
[11:01] <ronaldinho> if you can not, you are verrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy stupid
[11:01] <ulisse> bob_4_a_day, I think it freezes the kernel itself, 'cause it do not react on ssh request...
[11:01] <bob_4_a_day> !info mono
[11:01] <ubotu> mono: (Mono CLI (.NET) runtime), section interpreters, is optional. Version: <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB
[11:01] <bob_4_a_day> !info beagle
[11:01] <ubotu> beagle: (Desktop search tool), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.1-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 836 kB, Installed size: 3100 kB
[11:01] <topyli> bob_4_a_day: 1.1.8 is broken
[11:01] <ronaldinho> do you know bali?
[11:01] <bob_4_a_day> ah.
[11:01] <topyli> bob_4_a_day: it makes beagled crash
[11:02] <bob_4_a_day> !info mono hoary
[11:02] <ubotu> mono: (The Mono .NET development environment), section universe/interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.0.5-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[11:02] <bob_4_a_day> !info beagle hoary
[11:02] <mamoru> !info sound
[11:02] <Hoxzer> !info mysql
[11:02] <bob_4_a_day> !register
[11:02] <ubotu> rumour has it, register is type /msg nickserv help register
[11:03] <topyli> bob_4_a_day: also, beagle 1.1.2 is out and in debian unstable, so i might as well build that too. I'll see if the dependencies allow me to get a sane build environment
[11:03] <ProN00b> how do i give nautilus preview support for xvids
[11:04] <bob_4_a_day> yeah i was just checking the repos to see if i could see any reason for building,  you say it's broken.   that is reason enough.
[11:04] <topyli> bob_4_a_day: if it works for others, nice for them. i'll try the build :)
[11:05] <bob_4_a_day> sure
[11:05] <topyli> the beagle wiki says people should upgrade if they have problems
[11:05] <mamoru> hello. I've got a problem with sound under ubuntu, please help me. When I login as the first user the sound works OK. If I create another user (adduser foo), the sound doesn't work for the new user. It still works for the first user.
[11:05] <ronaldinho> do you h
[11:06] <ProN00b> how can i give nautilus preview support for xvid files ?
[11:06] <bob_4_a_day> ProN00b right click one maybe ?
[11:06] <ProN00b> no ? -_-
[11:06] <ronaldinho> done you have a wife
[11:07] <ronaldinho> done you have a wife ?
[11:07] <bob_4_a_day> mamoru can you add the new user 'foo' to group sound  ?
[11:07] <crimsun> ronaldinho: that belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:09] <mamoru> bob_4_a_day, how ?
[11:10] <bob_4_a_day> man groupadd
[11:13] <topyli> mamoru: you can also use the pointy-clicky tool in system  -> admin -> users&groups
[11:13] <mamoru> i have done the following:
[11:13] <bob_4_a_day> pointy-clicky-thingy's  hah
[11:14] <mamoru> man groupadd, sudo groupadd sound, man usermod, sudo usermod -G sound foo
[11:14] <mamoru> should work now?
[11:14] <cyhatch> Em, what do I add to my apt's sources.list so that I can upgrade from 4.10 packages to 5.04 from a CD?
[11:15] <bob_4_a_day> looks like
[11:15] <bob_4_a_day> !upgrade
[11:15] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:16] <cyhatch> Thanks.
[11:17] <bob_4_a_day> gimp = crippled
[11:17] <bob_4_a_day> 	Crippled /Crippled/ (kr?pp'ld), a. Lamed; lame; disabled; impeded. "The crippled crone." Longfellow.
[11:17] <mamoru> bob_4_a_day, it didn't help, gonna try the topyli method system -> admin -> users&groups
[11:18] <bob_4_a_day> yeah pointy clicky thingy  :)
[11:19] <atlasiatko> hi
[11:19] <topyli> heh
[11:19] <bob_4_a_day> pointy-clicky-thingy's  hehhe
[11:19] <atlasiatko> i have a question do you know somthing like turbo pascal but for linux with grphic editor ??
[11:21] <brosioz> http://www.dimi.uniud.it/~montana/exams/c20040323BDI.ps
[11:21] <brosioz> ops sorry
[11:22] <topyli> hmm. the mono build is making a record on compiler warnings :)
[11:22] <bob_4_a_day> gcc is the compiler but as to the grphic editor, that would be a pointy-clicky-thingy which i don't do atlasiatko
[11:23] <bob_4_a_day> topyli what would be a turbo-pascal alike app ?
[11:23] <topyli> atlasiatko: maybe you're looking for something like anjuta: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/
[11:23] <topyli> i have no idea what turbo pascal is like =)
[11:24] <tom> how can i change the default terminal emulator? it is gnome-terminal at the moment, but i want aterm as the default terminal emulator
[11:24] <atlasiatko> its like a hmm text editor ;P
[11:25] <mamoru> yes, the pointy-clicky stuff worked. It looks like i shouldn't add the group 'sound' - the related group had already exist.
[11:25] <bob_4_a_day> vim-enhansed
[11:25] <mamoru> the group is called 'audio'
[11:25] <ulisse> bob_4_a_day, i am reinstalling the 46 bit version, but it hangs on "configuring gsfonts"... what could I do?
[11:25] <mamoru> bob_4_a_day, topyli thanx a lot!
[11:26] <bob_4_a_day> sorry audio not sound,   i should know that.
[11:26] <bob_4_a_day> pebcak my end......
[11:26] <mamoru> bob_4_a_day, but you taught me the new command-line command 'groupadd', so thanks a lot!
[11:26] <cyhatch> tom: Do you mean "Preferred applications" under "Desktop Preferences"?
[11:26] <bob_4_a_day> :)
[11:27] <tom> cyhatch: yeah. thanks
[11:29] <rixth> Ubuntu's version of flex is EIGHT YEARS out of date FFS.
[11:29] <Madpilot> is there any way to get gEdit to print or display in w/ the page in landscape mode?
[11:29] <BB_wild> hi, how i can power off my sreensaver in console mode???
[11:29] <bob_4_a_day> mamoru there is also groupdel if you need it now   lol
[11:29] <mamoru> yeah, thanks :)
[11:30] <BB_wild> do u know that?
[11:30] <bob_4_a_day> screensaver in console mode ?????  never heard of any such thing......   are you sure that is not bios apm  or something ?
[11:30] <rixth> !tell BB_wild about u
[11:31] <BB_wild> im spanish and my english is bad xD
[11:31] <robotgeek> Madpilot: display?
[11:31] <Mr_Milenko> Well im 6'5" 350lbs.. full grown beard nicley trimmed...
[11:31] <bob_4_a_day> ! tell me about screen saver in console mode
[11:31] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, bob_4_a_day
[11:31] <Mr_Milenko> Also i like long walks in the park... and i love to play boggle
[11:31] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[11:32] <robotgeek> Madpilot: printing, i can understand. what's displaying a text file in landscape mode?
[11:32] <Madpilot> robotgeek: never mind, I think i've got it sorted
[11:33] <mamoru> i suppose the question is about the command-line command for disabling the screensaver
[11:33] <BB_wild> my screensavers give me  problems
[11:33] <BB_wild> i want power off in text mode
[11:33] <bob_4_a_day> but in console mode there is no screensaver,  at least not that i know anything about
[11:34] <bob_4_a_day> BB_wild bios
[11:34] <bob_4_a_day> BB_wild bios   apm settings
[11:34] <bob_4_a_day> that is all there is.
[11:34] <BB_wild> ya
[11:34] <BB_wild> but
[11:34] <BB_wild> that give me problems too
[11:34] <BB_wild> :(
[11:35] <topyli> !info lockvc
[11:35] <ubotu> lockvc: (Screensaver to lock your Linux console(s)), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 4.0.5-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 42 kB, Installed size: 224 kB
[11:35] <mamoru> BB_wild,  you want a command for disabling screensaver?
[11:35] <topyli> :)
[11:35] <BB_wild> yeeah
[11:35] <bob_4_a_day> do you mean you want to know how to turn the computer off from the cli
[11:35] <BB_wild> yes mamoru
[11:35] <topyli> killall xscreensaver
[11:36] <robotgeek> sudo shutdown -h now
[11:36] <bob_4_a_day> oh i get it.  you locked your self out ......no...... that's not it....  or you cant sudo either.
[11:37] <mamoru> BB_wild, use 'killall xscreensaver', as topyli says
[11:37] <mamoru> BB_wild, to enable screensaver again, type 'xscreensaver &' in the terminal again.
[11:37] <bob_4_a_day> BB_wild /j #ubuntu-es  ?
[11:38] <bob_4_a_day> !es
[11:38] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:39] <bob_4_a_day> what the crap is orbit ?
[11:40] <mamoru> some kind a chewing gum?
[11:40] <Elektrochelovek> !boost
[11:40] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Elektrochelovek
[11:40] <topyli> damn, i should log in to a faster machine for compiling big stuff. this mono biuld is taking forever
[11:40] <bob_4_a_day> i know everything gui depends on it but have no clue what it is.
[11:40] <BB_wild> jeje thanks to all, solucionado! :)
[11:40] <bob_4_a_day> :)
[11:41] <orbx> how do you access a ext3 partitioned hard drive via the terminal?
[11:41] <linkd> orbx: do you know where its mounted?
[11:41] <orbx> linkd > what do you mean "mounted"
[11:41] <topyli> orbx: mount it, use it :)
[11:41] <orbx> its /dev/hdb
[11:41] <bob_4_a_day> sudo mount /dev/hd?# /mountpoint      assumes it is not yet mounted......
[11:42] <ulisse> orbx, man mount
[11:42] <orbx> is that mount
[11:42] <orbx> ok
[11:42] <orbx> whats mount point do?
[11:42] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell orbx about windowsdrivers
[11:42] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell orbx about windowsdriver
[11:42] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell orbx about windowsdrives
[11:42] <topyli> orbx: typie "mount" and it will tell you what is mounted and what is not
[11:42] <bob_4_a_day> it is a directory that you want the partition to appear on
[11:42] <linkd> robotgeek: its ext3
[11:42] <linkd> orbx: make a directory in /media or so and mount to that directory
[11:42] <robotgeek> linkd: that script will work
[11:43] <orbx> no its not mounted
[11:43] <ulisse> orbx, try to see what partitions are in the disk with "cat /proc/partitions"
[11:43] <orbx> how do i man hdb
[11:43] <robotgeek> orbx: follow that link, download the script to automagically detect and mount partitions
[11:43] <ulisse> and find the one you want to mount
[11:44] <orbx> its just one big ext3 partition
[11:44] <topyli> orbx: does the drive have many partitions or just one?
[11:44] <orbx> one
[11:44] <robotgeek> orbx: sudo fdisk -l
[11:44] <topyli> orbx: mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt
[11:44] <ulisse> orbx, so it is hdb1
[11:44] <bob_4_a_day> orbx are you sure ?         man man       then  man mount     then    type  mount        then type   fdisk -l
[11:44] <[Yoni] > Hi all
[11:45] <bob_4_a_day> ulisse it probably is #1 but could be any number.....
[11:45] <orbx> sorry i quit by mistake
[11:45] <topyli> bob_4_a_day: he said it's just one big partition
[11:45] <mamoru> lol!!!! http://bash.org/?11185
[11:45] <robotgeek> orbx: :)
[11:45] <[Yoni] > Where can I find a tutorial about how to compile by my own a kernel + modules & everything for linux begginers? ( I want to learn how to compile for better perfomance )
[11:46] <linkd> lol
[11:46] <bob_4_a_day> topyli i can make one partition on an hd and have it be #5   duh
[11:46] <robotgeek> [Yoni] : check the wiki, it has lots of links to compiling stuff
[11:46] <orbx> i am getting a media hd ready for the xbox360, so basicly windows needs to read it. What would i convert the hd to?
[11:46] <topyli>  k
[11:46] <topyli> bob_4_a_day: true enough :)
[11:46] <ulisse> bob_4_a_day, I got the 64 bit one working!
[11:46] <Mr_Milenko> orbx: lol...
[11:46] <bob_4_a_day> :)
[11:46] <orbx> Mr_Milenko > what?
[11:46] <Mr_Milenko> Xbox 360 is the biggest peice of crap out there right now
[11:46] <MistaED> orbx: do you know what format the xbox 360 hard drives are set to?
[11:47] <Mr_Milenko> You should have waited about a month or so
[11:47] <Mr_Milenko> and for windows to read it..
[11:47] <MistaED> like the original was fatx, a hacked up fat32 thing, but surely the xbox 360 has journalising now
[11:47] <Mr_Milenko> NTFS or FatX
[11:47] <Mr_Milenko> erm
[11:47] <Mr_Milenko> FAT
[11:47] <[Yoni] > kk, I will...
[11:47] <orbx> MistaED > no no, it reads windows partitions, so you can play media on tv from comoputer
[11:47] <Mr_Milenko> as of yet we dont know what filesystem the 360 uses..
[11:47] <MistaED> cool
[11:47] <orbx> so NTFS?
[11:48] <Mr_Milenko> yes orbx
[11:48] <Mr_Milenko> for your PC
[11:48] <MistaED> hope it's FATX still, for the rest of us
[11:48] <Mr_Milenko> dont try to put an HDD in the 360
[11:48] <orbx> or fat32
[11:48] <Mr_Milenko> also you need Windows MCE
[11:48] <topyli> orbx: if fat32 would do, it would be better (you could better access it on linux boxen)
[11:48] <Mr_Milenko> The media functions are used in conjunction to Windows Media Center
[11:48] <orbx> Mr_Milenko > no, you don't put the hd in the 360, it reads the hd from your home network
[11:48] <Mr_Milenko> your screwed if you dont have it..
[11:48] <Mr_Milenko> i know orbx
[11:48] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[11:48] <orbx> ok
[11:49] <bob_4_a_day> orbx i'm going to give you a list of commands you should type to learn about mounting partitions and using linux cli     'man man ' <--- how to use the manuels  'man mount '  <--- learning about mounting file systems     'man fdisk '  <--- learning about working with or idintifying partitions
[11:49] <MistaED> needing MCE is just silly IMO, although you can see from their point of view the 360 would just kill their own product MCE in one swoop
[11:49] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[11:49] <orbx> thanks bob
[11:49] <Mr_Milenko> MistaED: the media functions suck in the 360
[11:49] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[11:49] <Mr_Milenko> Xbox Media Center blows it out of the water
[11:49] <Mr_Milenko> ;)
[11:49] <Mr_Milenko> thank god for mplayer..
[11:50] <MistaED> i'll stick to my xbmc-enabled xbox for now
[11:50] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[11:50] <orbx> Mr_Milenko > no x360 is the king
[11:50] <Mr_Milenko> Think what you like orbx..
[11:50] <orbx> MistaED > yea i might put linux on my xbox now
[11:50] <Mr_Milenko> Xbox 360's media center is a pile of shit.
[11:51] <orbx> Mr_Milenko > a proven fact your wrong.
[11:51] <Mr_Milenko> Yeah ok
[11:51] <MistaED> sony PS3's CEO said they will have linux supported... just what kind of support is the question =/
[11:51] <orbx> Mr_Milenko > please don't go off topic ;) but your wrong
[11:51] <Mr_Milenko> Whatever you say kid
[11:51] <robotgeek> please keep non ubuntu talk in #offtopic
[11:51] <bob_4_a_day> guys.    that is offtopic.     and we all know that every mama crow's little crow is always the blackest crow.
[11:51] <Mr_Milenko> hmm
[11:51] <MistaED> :O
[11:51] <orbx> *Looks at preorder
[11:52] <bungle> woo the island is a wikid movie
[11:52] <cafuego> people who pay money to MS for anything have no right to an option here. Go to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[11:52] <robotgeek> cafuego: *opinion*
[11:52] <cafuego> robotgeek: yeah, well, YOU try that with lotsa beer in ya ;-)
[11:52] <linkd> :|
[11:52] <Mr_Milenko> cafuego: its people like you that piss me off about this community..
[11:53] <orbx> microsoft is good for somethings, bad for OS
[11:53] <cafuego> Mr_Milenko: It's people who whine about unrelated crap that annoy me.
[11:53] <robotgeek> Mr_Milenko: he was being funny
[11:53] <linkd> lets not start to comment on the windows OS. thatll only start a conflict
[11:53] <cafuego> Mr_Milenko: '/ignore cafuego' if you object.
[11:53] <orbx> cafuego > windows OS is better than ubuntu
[11:53] <Mr_Milenko> ROFL
[11:53] <orbx> no lol thats a joke
[11:53] <linkd> ok that changed quickly..
[11:53] <robotgeek> orbx: again, please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:54] <orbx> i use ubuntu
[11:54] <topyli> i use ubuntu-offtopic
[11:54] <orbx> which is better debian or ubuntu?
[11:54] <bob_4_a_day> orbx i'd sujest drop it or go to #ubuntu-offtopic  pdq.
[11:55] <Mr_Milenko> id say ubuntu... updated more
[11:55] <orbx> okie
[11:55] <orbx> bob_4_a_day > no, that was a ubuntu related topic.
[11:56] <bob_4_a_day> last time i checked trolling was still frowned on here........
[11:56] <orbx> ok sorry
[11:56] <topyli> orbx: that was a distro war related topic
[11:56] <orbx> topyli > i know
[11:57] <orbx> do you copy to a empty fat32 one partitioned hard drive with mv?
[11:58] <Mr_Milenko> you can
[11:58] <Mr_Milenko> yes
[11:58] <bob_4_a_day> you copy with cp   you move with mv
[11:58] <linkd> orbx: cp -R /media/fat32_mountpoint would work better :P
[11:58] <linkd> yar
[11:58] <orbx> ok how do i create dir, would it be
[11:58] <bob_4_a_day> mkdir
[11:58] <linkd> mkdir new/dir
[11:59] <orbx> mkdir media /dev/hdb1/
[11:59] <bob_4_a_day> no
[12:00] <Madpilot> orbx: no, that already exists
[12:00] <orbx> oh ok
[12:00] <orbx> can you use cd
[12:00] <orbx> to set current DIR to new hd?
[12:00] <kevor> what's the program called in ubuntu to make partitions?
[12:00] <Madpilot> orbx: I thought you wanted to mount this harddrive?
[12:01] <kevor> the graphical one
[12:01] <topyli> oh. i have to shy away from building beagle 0.1.2. too many dependencies to build
[12:01] <topyli> maybe the mono upgrade will be enough to fix things :)
[12:02] <wobster> hi everyone. can I install breezy with a hoary install-cd? like, changing the version during installation or similar?
[12:02] <bob_4_a_day> orbx think --->      sudo mkdir /media/<something>   &&   sudo mount -o umask=0 /dev/hdb1 /media/<something>  && cp -R /path/to/origenal/files  /media/<something>
[12:03] <bob_4_a_day> wobster if you are familear with linux cli    install server and then upgrade
[12:03] <bob_4_a_day> !upgrade
[12:03] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:03] <robotgeek> wobster: you can install the base system, then follow the upgrade to breezy
[12:04] <wobster> alright. thank you two
[12:04] <bob_4_a_day> np
[12:05] <Elektrochelovek> !libstlport4.6
[12:05] <ubotu> Elektrochelovek: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[12:05] <Elektrochelovek> !libstlport
[12:05] <ubotu> Not a clue, Elektrochelovek
[12:05] <Elektrochelovek> !libstl
[12:05] <ubotu> Elektrochelovek: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[12:05] <Elektrochelovek> !no_shot
[12:05] <ubotu> Elektrochelovek: I give up, what is it?
[12:05] <Elektrochelovek> !no_shit;D
[12:05] <robotgeek> Elektrochelovek: what are you trying to do
[12:05] <bob_4_a_day> !info libstlport4.6
[12:05] <bob_4_a_day> !info libstlport
[12:06] <bob_4_a_day> no package....
[12:06] <robotgeek> please apt-cache it, it's faster
[12:06] <Madpilot> !msg the bot
[12:06] <topyli> Elektrochelovek: /msg ubotu and read the help
[12:06] <topyli> it has help doesn't it?
[12:06] <bob_4_a_day> yeah robotgeek but i'd nave to install ub to do it that way.....
[12:06] <Madpilot> topyli: ubotu's help isn't very helpful...
[12:06] <bob_4_a_day> s/nave/have
[12:07] <Elektrochelovek> parse error
[12:07] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell bob_4_a_day about search
[12:07] <bob_4_a_day> i noticed Madpilot
[12:07] <bob_4_a_day> lol
[12:07] <Elektrochelovek> ubotu: tell Elektrochelovek about ubotu
[12:07] <mamoru> Elektrochelovek, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libstlport&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[12:07] <bob_4_a_day> robotgeek mmmm <bob_4_a_day> wants you to know that would also require installing ubuntu lol
[12:08] <robotgeek> bob_4_a_day: not packages.ubuntu.com/<package>
[12:08] <Elektrochelovek> mamoru, but whet i apt-get install libstlport4.6 it says "Package libstlport4.6 is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[12:09] <bob_4_a_day> [ubotu(n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au)]  robotgeek wants you to know: hmm... search is System>Administration>Synaptic, has a search function. Command line are apt-cache search "packagename", or aptitude search "packagename"   <---- well all that would...
[12:09] <robotgeek> bob_4_a_day: i know, i referred tou to packages.ubuntu.com/<package>
[12:10] <mamoru> Elektrochelovek,      /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:10] <bob_4_a_day> yes yes we've been there now......
[12:11] <akonkwa> I'm trying to install the JRE, following the steps of the starter guide. when I try to use the command "fakeroot", it says "command not found".   SignOff GeekBRA: #ubuntu (Client Quit)
[12:13] <Elektrochelovek> oh, riga;] ]  braliukas
[12:15] <akonkwa> robotgeek : when I try this command "sudo fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin" it says , "/usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found" do you know what this means?
[12:15] <robotgeek> akonkwa: moment
[12:16] <robotgeek> akonkwa: are you following the wiki article on java?
[12:16] <akonkwa> robotgeek, : No the official starter guide
[12:17] <topyli> akonkwa: you didn't install any of the build environment. install the build-essential and java-package packages
[12:18] <akonkwa> topyli,: Hi again :) . How exactly do I do this?
[12:18] <robotgeek> akonkwa: sudo apt-get install fakeroot  java-package java-common
[12:18] <prophessor> Hola
[12:18] <bob_4_a_day> and build-essential
[12:18] <topyli> akonkwa: you install packages with apt-get or the clickity-click package manager
[12:19] <Hobbsee> topyli: lol @ the clickity-click package manager!  I like it!
[12:19] <akonkwa> robotgeek,: So does that mean that " sudo apt-get install fakeroot  java-package java-common" has installed java on my computer?
[12:19] <bob_4_a_day> pointy clicky thingy
[12:20] <Hobbsee> nah, clickity-click package manager is better :P
[12:20] <Hobbsee> otherwise known as synaptic
[12:20] <orbx> bob_4_a_day > how do i check if i have mounted the hd correctly?
[12:20] <robotgeek> akonkwa: instead of all that, you can also install it from a .deb package
[12:20] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell akonkwa about javadebs
[12:20] <topyli> Hobbsee: we could change the menu entry to be "Clickety-Click Package Manager". the tooltip could say "Install packages with the pointy clicky thingy"
[12:20] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:20] <Hobbsee> now that'd be fun
[12:21] <Hobbsee> that'd give me a reason to download synaptic again!
[12:21] <bob_4_a_day> orbx if you read the man page on mount you would know.    'mount '   will list all mounted fs's
[12:21] <topyli> Hobbsee: file a wishlist bug for the dapper deveopment team :)
[12:22] <robotgeek> orbx: you still stuck at mounting?
[12:22] <bob_4_a_day> :)
[12:22] <orbx> robotgeek > i still suck at linux :(
[12:22] <akonkwa> Can I install debian packages on ubuntu hoary?
[12:23] <robotgeek> orbx: no problem, everyone goes through the same phase
[12:23] <Hobbsee> akonkwa: it's not recommended
[12:23] <orbx> robotgeek > although i have mysql installed now :)
[12:23] <bob_4_a_day> akonkwa yes.... but it will probably break things.
[12:23] <Hobbsee> akonkwa: some packages yes, some no
[12:23] <topyli> akonkwa: not really. use the source repositories and build ubuntu packages from them
[12:23] <robotgeek> akonkwa: if you are talking about the java package, it's built for breezy
[12:23] <MistaED> does anyone know what dapper drake's default iconset/theme will be? possibly the tango suite?
[12:24] <robotgeek> orbx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions ,download the linked script. it will detect and add all the relevant entries. very automagic
[12:25] <akonkwa> robotgeek : I'm talking about a glgo client for playing go , that uses opengl. I have the choice between rpm, deb, tar.gz or package. Wich one shoul I choose? and why?
[12:25] <bob_4_a_day> automatic    yuch !
[12:25] <Earthpig> anyone know how to disable fbcon on bootup? it looks like mkinitramfs hard-codes it to load on bootup.
[12:25] <Hobbsee> akonkwa: you can try the .deb, that will be the easiest to install, otherwise go the .tar.gz and compile it
[12:26] <akonkwa> Hobbsee: but won't it break things?
[12:26] <DRAGON_Ultra> morning all
[12:26] <resistor> yup
[12:26] <bob_4_a_day> Earthpig maybe add 'nofbcon' to the commandline for the kernel ?
[12:26] <Hobbsee> akonkwa: the deb could, the .tar.gz wont
[12:27] <akonkwa> Hobbsee: An how do I compile it exactly, once I've got it?
[12:27] <Hobbsee> !tell akonkwa about compile
[12:27] <Hobbsee> !tell akonkwa about checkinstall
[12:29] <bob_4_a_day> Earthpig there is probably a 'pointy clicky thingy' for configuring the boot time processes.....
[12:29] <Earthpig> I can't find it ;)
[12:30] <topyli> akonkwa: the glgo web page does advertise ubuntu compatibility of their debs
[12:30] <Earthpig> as far as i can tell, mkinitramfs just hard codes all the modules from /lib/modules/`uname -r`/initrd into the boot.
[12:30] <mips> Hi,
[12:30] <Earthpig> that includes fbcon
[12:30] <bob_4_a_day> i'd help ya look but that would require that i install ub
[12:31] <bob_4_a_day> i don't even use an initrd.
[12:32] <Earthpig> bob: the standard kernels use it.
[12:32] <Earthpig> technically, initramfs, not initrd (anymor)
[12:33] <bob_4_a_day> havent used an initrd in ages....
[12:33] <dpupp> help... im having an issues here logging in. i went to install k3b, and something went wrong... now, i cant log in. its saying something about my session lasted less than 10 sec. ... warning\; unable to read ICE authority file /home/ookami/.iceauthority
[12:33] <robotgeek> akonkwa: what are you trying to compile/install anyways?
[12:34] <MistaED> hey is it possible with mount to get an .iso file and be able to add files to it? like a rw iso?
[12:34] <HappyFool> dpupp: do you have a text login now ?
[12:34] <linkd> MistaED: i think ud need a specific ISO editor for that
[12:34] <blendor> Bonjour
[12:34] <HappyFool> MistaED: i don't think so
[12:34] <dpupp> i happyfool, i can get one..
[12:34] <bob_4_a_day> dpupp 'rm ~/.*authority* '   and try again.
[12:34] <arnducky> Does anyone want to read my multisync + bluetooth bug report?
[12:35] <blendor> dites, c'est dans QUELLE FICHIER QU'ON PEUT ENCORE DEFINIR DES VARIABLES D'ENVIRONNEMENTS ( UN NIVEAU GLOBAL (ALL USERS) ?
[12:35] <robotgeek> arnducky: sure
[12:35] <blendor> Oups
[12:35] <MistaED> or chown the ICE file to your username
[12:35] <HappyFool> dpupp: login, and remove ~/.ICEauthority
[12:35] <blendor> Dsol pour les majuscules
[12:35] <dpupp> happyfool, doing right now...
[12:35] <HappyFool> dpupp: something like 'sudo rm ~/.ICEauthority' ought to work
[12:35] <MistaED> so is it ok to remove it?
[12:35] <robotgeek> blendor: #ubuntu-fr
[12:35] <bob_4_a_day> yes
[12:35] <blendor> robertbb, ok, i have forget, sorry
[12:35] <blendor> i go on the french channel.
[12:36] <robotgeek> blendor: np :)
[12:36] <akonkwa> robotgeek: I'd like to try to compile/install it , just to learn how it is done
[12:36] <robotgeek> akonkwa: which one, java?
[12:36] <akonkwa> robotgeek: No, the glgo client
[12:37] <robotgeek> akonkwa: ah, kk. np, we'll help u thru it
[12:37] <dpupp> happyfool! you are not officially a god in my books ;)
[12:37] <robotgeek> DRAGON_Ultra: please fix your client
[12:37] <akonkwa> robotgeek; thanx
[12:37] <dpupp> thanks!
[12:37] <arnducky> ubotu, tell arnducky about pastebin
[12:38] <akonkwa> robotgeek: right now I've installed build-essential, cvs, and subversion (that's what they said on the wiki)
[12:38] <arnducky> !pastebin dammit
[12:38] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, arnducky
[12:38] <robotgeek> arnducky: also try /msg ubotu pastebin
[12:38] <HappyFool> dpupp: np
[12:38] <robotgeek> akonkwa: link?
[12:38] <arnducky> robotgeek, no nicksrv reg'n remember?
[12:38] <arnducky> !pastebin
[12:38] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:39] <Hobbsee> !tell arnducky about register
[12:39] <akonkwa> robotgeek, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingEasyHowTo?highlight=%28compiling%29
[12:39] <robotgeek> akonkwa: link to glgo client would also help
[12:39] <bob_4_a_day> what fs is initrd ?  ramfs mounts but shows no inodes.....
[12:40] <arnducky> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5076
[12:40] <bob_4_a_day> like i said i havent played with an initrd in ages
[12:40] <arnducky> servogeek?
[12:40] <akonkwa> robotgeek: Ah ok, sorry about that. here goes:http://www.pandanet.co.jp/English/glgo/download.html
[12:41] <MistaED> hey does someone here know where I could find a configuration program or the conf file for gnome-volume-manager?
[12:41] <robotgeek> arnducky: nice
[12:41] <MistaED> i'd like to add the option to sync for removable storage and have UDF cd's mount :D
[12:42] <robotgeek> akonkwa: it's python based, you won't need to compile
[12:42] <Xanthus7> Question
[12:43] <Earthpig> bob: initrd under Debian was cramfs. the new initramfs is a cpio.gz archive.
[12:43] <akonkwa> robotgeek: So what will I have to do?
[12:43] <robotgeek> akonkwa: getting the file, one sec
[12:43] <Xanthus7> anyone know why I cannot download the 5.10 dvd
[12:44] <mamoru> how to play .wmv files?
[12:44] <Ankka> mamoru: you need w32codecs
[12:44] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell mamoru about w32codecs
[12:44] <dpupp> to fix a program that didnt install right, or to reinstall the same program, is there any special options one must specify in the command?
[12:44] <bob_4_a_day> yah  but cram errors out.....
[12:44] <bob_4_a_day> hmmmm
[12:45] <robotgeek> dpupp: sudo aptitude purge <pkg> && sudo aptitude install <pkg>
[12:45] <bob_4_a_day> hehhe i'll rm it and make another and if it wont mount ill rm it and quit....
[12:47] <topyli> dpupp: apt-get install --reinstall foo. but why would it install right this time if it's the same package? :)
[12:47] <robotgeek> akonkwa: do you want a oneliner? :)
[12:47] <mamoru> should i dpkg -i w32blablabla ?
[12:47] <akonkwa> robotgeek: what's a one liner?
[12:48] <arnducky> robotgeek, why do I get the feeling that you aren't saying 'nice' because there is an obvious solution... =o\
[12:48] <bob_4_a_day> well i guess i can't mount an initrd...... hehhe oh well i don't use it anyway.
[12:48] <robotgeek> akonkwa: it's pretty easy to install, it's one line
[12:49] <robotgeek> arnducky: my only interest was cause i wrote the Multisync article on the wiki. :(
[12:49] <akonkwa> robotgeek: Ok, go ahead
[12:49] <robotgeek> akonkwa: can we do this in a query?
[12:49] <topyli> robotgeek: oh, there's a multisync article?
[12:49] <robotgeek> topyli: it's just horribly outdated
[12:50] <dpupp> topyli, because i did something wrong the first time.. :)
[12:50] <arnducky> Not a coincidence then, that we've met, is it.
[12:50] <dpupp> so to record mp3 to cda (audio cd) it appears i need a plugin... but none of the programs are saying which plugin... anyone have an idea?
[12:51] <arnducky> (of the thousands of Ubuntu geeken and hundreds of developers that I could have offered to show that bug bitchingness to, you were here tonight...)
[12:51] <robotgeek> akonkwa: if you have the .gz file, all you need to do is tar -zxf file.tar.gz , and sudo ./install
[12:52] <robotgeek> arnducky: were you following that article ?
[12:52] <NaTeek> Hallo.
[12:52] <akonkwa> robotgeek, Ok thanx
[12:52] <arnducky> robotgeek, do you have any idea how I might get my Bluetooth adapter to shake hands with my cellphone the way it should do?
[12:52] <NaTeek> Is anybody using screem?
[12:52] <robotgeek> you mentioned that they were talking?
[12:52] <bob_4_a_day> nice.... grub-install errors out with '/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.'
[12:52] <arnducky> robotgeek, I'm not shure which article you mean -- I read several tonight before trying multisync.
[12:53] <robotgeek> arnducky: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultisyncHowto
[12:53] <arnducky> BBIAB -- feeding time int he duckypond (must satiate the meat so I can keep on hacking for another 72 hours -- hah!)
[12:53] <akonkwa> robotgeek,: What do you mean by sudo /.install exactly?
[12:53] <NeoRc> hi room
[12:54] <robotgeek> akonkwa: sudo ./glGo.install
[12:54] <Hobbsee> akonkwa: probably typing that command in a console, once you've cd'd to the directory it created when you unpacked the .tar.gz
[12:54] <akonkwa> Ok, Isee
[12:54] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: it doesn't create one. it does have an uninstall script tho
[12:54] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[12:57] <jozefj> hi just install ubuntu for 3 days now, need help on totem movie player.. anyone wants to help me?
[12:57] <crimsun> jozefj: what issue(s)?
[12:58] <jozefj> how to play dvd or mp3
[12:58] <jozefj> and to mount vcd
[12:58] <ProN00b> jozefj, install vlc, its better than totem
[12:58] <linkd> jozefj:
[12:58] <MistaED> what happened to the gtk2 build of vlc?
[12:59] <linkd> jozefj: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats might be worth a read for u
[12:59] <bob_4_a_day> what line do i add for cdrom boot in grub ?
[12:59] <MistaED> for me it looks motif
[12:59] <jozefj> ij
[12:59] <jozefj> ok
[12:59] <robotgeek> MistaED: it's gtk1, gtk2 is in backports
[12:59] <jozefj> how to install vlc?
[12:59] <crimsun> MistaED: I disabled it for Breezy final due to UTF-8 parsing issues in that version of vlc and wxwidgets2.6.
[12:59] <robotgeek> jozefj: enable universe, and install from synaptic
[12:59] <MistaED> ah
[01:00] <bob_4_a_day> anyone boot a cdrom from grub ?    howto ?
[01:00] <refuze2looze> how can i limit my upload bandwidth?
[01:00] <crimsun> robotgeek: I'm not going to discuss it; it has been rehashed for months on end. :-) Read the changelog.
[01:00] <jozefj> im really new on linux
[01:00] <jozefj>  anyone i could pv to ask basic question?
[01:00] <robotgeek> crimsun: i don't really care. full screen works wonderfully
[01:01] <robotgeek> jozefj: you are in the right place. ask away
[01:01] <crimsun> When 0.8.4 hits Sid, we'll merge it
[01:01] <robotgeek> neat, i'll wait
[01:02] <bob_4_a_day> jozefj just ask,  don't ask to ask....
[01:02] <jozefj> ok
[01:02] <jozefj> im downloading vlc
[01:02] <jozefj> what is gnome and gtk?
[01:02] <jozefj> i think gnome is the desktop right?
[01:02] <bob_4_a_day> yep
[01:02] <crimsun> jozefj: you probably want the "pretty" GTK+ 2 version in breezy-backports
[01:03] <jozefj> ok.. u lost me there
[01:03] <bob_4_a_day> gtk = gnu tool kit  ?
[01:03] <jozefj> pretty? in breezy-backporrts?
[01:03] <mjr> bob_4_a_day, actually, GIMP toolkit :)
[01:04] <bob_4_a_day> gimp tool kit    ok
[01:04] <MistaED> jozefj: it means that videolan version will blend in well with your interface/theme
[01:04] <mjr> bob_4_a_day, though, in the end, it's GNU Image Manipulation Program ToolKit :)
[01:04] <bob_4_a_day> gimp is a crippled right ?
[01:04] <jozefj> ok
[01:04] <mjr> bob_4_a_day, not in this context :)
[01:04] <robotgeek> jozefj: gnome is your environment. gtk is a library for display. gtk1 < gtk2
[01:04] <jozefj> so i should have the gtk+ 2 version, is that it?
[01:04] <bob_4_a_day> :)
[01:04] <jozefj> ooo ok
[01:05] <jozefj> library as in themes?
[01:05] <robotgeek> jozefj: well, for display of text boxes,menus etc
[01:06] <goki_> when I build a package from source, I get an x86_64 package, even though I am building on amd64
[01:06] <goki_> is there anything I can do about that?
[01:06] <lord_rob> Hi ! Can Ubuntu install CD be used as a debian sid installer directly ?
[01:06] <sven> when I'm working in Ubuntu I cannot open the disk manager, it keeps on loading
[01:06] <bob_4_a_day> hmmmm all the gtk i have installed here is 'libgtk+1.2'
[01:06] <sven> it only works when I restarted and then open the diskmanager
[01:06] <goki_> ill be back
[01:06] <MistaED> goki_: i'm pretty sure x86_64 = amd64
[01:06] <goki_> oh
[01:06] <lord_rob> goki_: x86_64 = amd64
[01:06] <jozefj> where can i have this gtk +2 ... and to download the vlc..
[01:07] <goki_> Then how come when I try to install that package, it fails?
[01:07] <MistaED> they just call it amd64 still as amd created the 64 arch originally and intel copied