[12:34] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[12:34] <spiroo> it is something between configure and xserver
[12:34] <spiroo> ah thank you bot :)
[12:34] <tarek_> trekdanne: you there?
[12:35] <`i`> and i forgot my root pass, is there a way to recover it
[12:35] <cjh> what is the file extension for the Linux driver?
[12:35] <runlevelten> flipping Driver = "vesa"
[12:35] <stdin> `i`: there is no root password
[12:35] <runlevelten> Oh sod it, I'm going to have coffee before I open my mouth again. Sorry.
[12:35] <llutz> cjh: kernel-modules are *.ko
[12:35] <stdin> `i`: use sudo and your password
[12:35] <`i`> it doesnt work
[12:35] <spiroo> vesa does not work to correct right desktop resolution. I need nVidia drivers which i configured there
[12:35] <`i`> when i su
[12:35] <stdin> `i`: like I said, use sudo
[12:36] <`i`> i type the same pass with the username im login
[12:36] <stdin> `i`: "sudo su" or just "sudo -i"
[12:36] <ehc> has anyone gotten gdesklets or adesklets to run on amd64 feisty?
[12:37] <`i`> stdin: thanks :)
[12:37] <stdin> `i`: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo it explains sudo in more detail :)
[12:37] <`i`> yeah, thx a lot
[12:40] <tarek_> i wanted to know how to get rid of the drumming when you want to log in
[12:40] <stdin> drumming? is that the ubuntu sound?
[12:41] <tarek_> yes
[12:41] <cjh> I wish there were places you could use multics.
[12:41] <stdin> the people in #ubuntu would know then
[12:41] <runlevelten> yeah, that's not kubuntu, old bean :)
[12:41] <spiroo> lol
[12:42] <cjh> Ubuntu should become a part of the multics re-revolution.
[12:42] <spiroo> btw, how do i reconfigure grub?
[12:43] <spiroo> I want do delete an OS partition without grub failure like last time I did i. Or I removed a regular partition in Windows and when reboot, error and had to reinstall :(
[12:43] <knulfine> uhm... hi?
[12:43] <spiroo> hello
[12:43] <cjh> tarek: System --> Admin --> Login Window
[12:44] <spiroo> anyone, know about my grub problem?
[12:44] <toby> I've just installed Kubuntu Feisty. I'd like the 3D desktop effects. Should I install Beryl or Compiz? I note on Beryl's site that the two have merged into Compiz Fusion but I don't see that in the package manager.
[12:44] <Skrot-> Hi, which package contains aclocal?=
[12:45] <spiroo> i do not wanna reinstall linux again. I have reinstalled it like 100 times already
[12:45] <knulfine> I nearly can't read anything since ubuntu is on my pc... Everythings too little. Is there a link or something for this Problem?
[12:45] <seezer> can anyone tell me which software is involved when i try to use the multimedia keys for volume up|down|mute? i just get the nifty OSD but nothing happens to the volume.
[12:45] <stdin> toby: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[12:46] <cjh> by the way, don't know if I can discuss in ubuntu forum.  But I just installed this ubuntu, and the GUI is so much like windows what's become the benefit of switching?
[12:46] <toby> stdin: Thank you.
[12:46] <seezer> so the keys seem to be noticed correctly but somethings borked.. it worked fine with feisty but since gutsy it's kinda strange. but with gutsy on my notebook everything is fine there.
[12:47] <cjh> And it's not as if the Command line even can see BSD capability.
[12:47] <toby> knulfine: Try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:47] <knulfine> thx toby
[12:47] <stdin> Skrot-: the automake packages, install with "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[12:47] <knulfine> toby. uhm... what is that? sorry I use linux since yesterday
[12:48] <stdin> seezer: gutsy help in #ubuntu+1
[12:48] <spiroo> cjh: I just thought the same thing, but Windows is not to bad if were talking grapgicaly. Anyway, Linux powns Windows. But I recommend everyone to have both linux and windows isntalled just in case something happens
[12:49] <knulfine> oh ok.. got it
[12:49] <toby> knulfine: good.
[12:49] <spiroo> anyone has experience with grub?
[12:49] <toby> knulfine: You'll want to restart X at the end of the wizard. For a newbie, it's prolly easier to restart the whole box.
[12:50] <runlevelten> cjh: that's gnome I suppose.
[12:50] <cjh> well, Ubuntu is under the .NET platform now isn't it?
[12:50] <blekos> is it possible to upgrade to tribe 4 (7.10) form the internet of it has to be from the cd?
[12:50] <runlevelten> No.
[12:51] <knulfine> toby: well that doesn't work. It's german but I try to translate. It says: The server is not installes and there's no info available
[12:51] <toby> If I accidentally install a metapackage (beryl-kubuntu in this example) how would I go about undoing it? Removing the metapackage doesn't remove the child packages that were installed by it.
[12:51] <cjh> hell, they all are even freeBSD
[12:51] <stdin> blekos: #ubuntu+1
[12:51] <stdin> toby: try "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[12:51] <runlevelten> Gnome uses .Net for some of its new core apps, and has a registry. If you like windows, gnome is for you. This is Kubuntu, which implies users of KDE.
[12:52] <seezer> stdin: ah. ok, thanks and sorry.
[12:52] <runlevelten> KDE does not use Mono for its core apps, does not have a registry, does not have lots of uneditable GUI options, etc.
[12:52] <Assid> gnome uses .net ?
[12:52] <runlevelten> It uses Mono.
[12:52] <spiroo> wtf if it uses .NET
[12:52] <cjh> I suppose you're right.  a .NET function could techinically specifically target KDE but there's currently no reason for it to ever do so.
[12:53] <runlevelten> There are Qt .Net bindings if you want them.
[12:53] <runlevelten> This has nothing to do with KDE or its apps.
[12:53] <Assid> cool
[12:53] <runlevelten> heh
[12:54] <Assid> looks like i can play with mono apps
[12:54] <Assid> brb
[12:54] <Assid> mac in trouble
[12:54] <toby> stdin: Thank you.
[12:54] <stdin> toby: so i guess that worked :p
[12:54] <cjh> if you want to talk apps, talk fixing my wLan card which taunts me in the Device Manager.
[12:55] <cjh> this means the Hardware is clearly fine.  and I installed the driver, which works completely fine.  but when it comes to the two communicating they won't.
[12:55] <cjh> Tried every suggestion through, no dice.
[12:57] <spiroo> cjh, Try Kubuntu 7.10. I had same problem, but 7.10 is for now beta, so not too stable :P
[12:58] <stdin> it's not beta, it's still alpha
[12:58] <Assid> k back
[12:58] <spiroo> KnetworkManager has serious bugs. Now I got wireless WPA2 working :P It is even Ralink 2500 :D
[12:58] <spiroo> stdin: Okay sorry, my bad :P
[12:58] <spiroo> Prerelease anyway
[12:59] <knulfine> Is there anyone who can halp me? I tried this one: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver but it didn't work...
[12:59] <cjh> linx?
[12:59] <spiroo> I am excited to get stable version of Kubuntu 7.10 and KDE Dektop 4 ;P
[12:59] <spiroo> knulfine: You forget something on the end
[12:59] <willempie> Hey peoples
[12:59] <spiroo> xserver-xorg should it be
[01:00] <willempie> Just installed this great distro
[01:00] <willempie> works like a charm
[01:00] <stdin> knulfine: didn't work how? (and did you put "xserver" ot "xserver-xorg" ? )
[01:00] <spiroo> almost
[01:00] <willempie> ...but...
[01:00] <willempie> can't seem to get it to play divx
[01:00] <willempie> any suggestions??
[01:00] <cjh> Would it be in repository, or is it a link I should follow?
[01:00] <stdin> !codecs | willempie
[01:00] <ubotu> willempie: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:00] <knulfine> spirco well I can't read clearly because something is wrong
[01:01] <willempie> thqnks stdin
[01:01] <willempie> !codecs
[01:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:01] <spiroo> knulfine, what do you mean?
[01:01] <stdin> willempie: see the link from ubotu
[01:01] <spiroo> yeayea ubotu, do not post duplicated please :d
[01:02] <stdin> !bot
[01:02] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:02] <spiroo> haha
[01:03] <cjh> spiroo: Where's link to kubuntu7.1?
[01:03] <knulfine> stoin / studn (soorry I dan't read it well: ok I tried it with this org but it tells me this package server is not installed and there's no information available
[01:03] <spiroo> kubuntu.org. But I warn you it is alpha version. It has some bugs. But I do not complain, my network works :P
[01:04] <stdin> knulfine: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[01:04] <spiroo> anyway cjh: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-August/000324.html
[01:04] <stdin> knulfine: copy & paste
[01:05] <willempie> by the way, you guys
[01:05] <willempie> I LOVE IT
[01:05] <willempie> love it
[01:05] <willempie> loooooove it
[01:05] <willempie> I feel all 60-ish
[01:05] <spiroo> haha
[01:05] <knulfine> stoin I did ;-) but it doesn't work
[01:06] <cjh> spiroo: I'll make the jump.  Trying to get my new computer working..I've gone from XP > MEPIS > Windows2000AdvServer > Ubuntu   1 more install round isn't too much for me.
[01:06] <stdin> knulfine: "doesn't work" can mean anything, we need more information than that
[01:06] <spiroo> cjh: Full stable version of Kubuntu v7.10 is going to be released in october
[01:06] <knulfine> stoin which info do you want?
[01:06] <spiroo> cjh: Haha I have gone a longer path, reinstalled Kubuntu like 200 times
[01:07] <cjh> spiroo: Yeah I didn't count all of my angry moments.
[01:07] <stdin> knulfine: what didn't work? how do you know it didn't work? what did you try? what happened when you did it?
[01:07] <paritosh> if i try to launch a gui app from konsole, i get the following error> http://pastebin.com/m40841310
[01:07] <willempie> So now you have a dualcentbootmachine??
[01:07] <spiroo> just one notice for everyone on Kubuntu v7.10. Before upgrade to new amarok, uinsyall libmtp5 and then upgrade. That solved very much trouble for me
[01:07] <stdin> !baddevice | paritosh
[01:07] <ubotu> paritosh: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> spiroo: hmm thought hobbsee fixed that bug
[01:08] <cjh> It should be common practice to NOT install a new OS with atleast 6 shots of whiskey or 2 glasses of wine.
[01:08] <spiroo> If you do not, Adept get fucked up and so do linux. I destroyed linux once and some files too just of that
[01:08] <spiroo> cjh: haha
[01:08] <stdin> !language | spiroo
[01:08] <ubotu> spiroo: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:08] <spiroo> stdin and uboto: Really sorry, not with purpose
[01:09] <willempie> spiroo: you've managed to destroy linux??
[01:09] <spiroo> I just get angry when things go wrong, lol :D
[01:09] <spiroo> willempie: yes
[01:09] <willempie> Are you working for SCO or novell??? :p
[01:10] <nosrednaekim> spiroo: 1... its gutsy... 2... did you reload your package lists before you did that?
[01:10] <knulfine> stoin: I copied this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver->org" into the box. I typed Enter. And I got this:Paket xserver- ist nicht installiert und es ist keine Info verfgbar. (that's german for "package xserver is not installed and there is no information available")
[01:10] <spiroo> I could not login, because kbkg was disturbed and so did adept which destroyed linux
[01:10] <knulfine> stoin: ut I have to say, I use linux since yesterday...
[01:10] <stdin> knulfine: no, not "xserver->org" it's "xserver-org"
[01:10] <spiroo> I know it is Gutsy, just hate the word, sounds childish :D
[01:10] <runlevelten> It's off-topic anyway so it's be best discussed in #kubuntu-offtopic , but FYI Novell does not wish to destroy Linux.
[01:10] <spiroo> 2: Yes of course
[01:10] <runlevelten> *it'd
[01:11] <spiroo> libmtp6 is freaky, just say that. It destroyed Adept
[01:11] <spiroo> It does not reconfigure libmtp5 properly to install libmtp6
[01:11] <cjh> So spiroo you do linux programing, for Ubuntu primarily I assume?
[01:11] <willempie> !codecs
[01:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:11] <stdin> spiroo: I use synaptic for devel releases, resolves dependencies better
[01:12] <stdin> willempie: you need to look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:12] <runlevelten> spiroo: if you can get a reproducible bug spotted, it'd be helpful if you reported it to the package maintainer.
[01:12] <spiroo> cjh: In matter of facts no, I just startedwith linux last week :D
[01:12] <runlevelten> Then these things get fixed.
[01:12] <knulfine> stoin: ok I tried that, too but I get the same info
[01:12] <cjh> cjh: Looks like you looked over the packages better, or had more problems.
[01:12] <spiroo> yes :D
[01:13] <willempie> well, I've installed the ubuntu restricted extras package, but still can't play divx in totem
[01:13] <willempie> error =
[01:13] <willempie> Video codec 'DivX 5' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[01:13] <nosrednaekim> willempie: wrong channel.....
[01:13] <willempie> oh
[01:13] <stdin> knulfine: copy & paste all this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:13] <willempie> where should I goMM
[01:13] <willempie> go?
[01:13] <spiroo> I had to whole days trying to get wireless working.  :P
[01:14] <willempie> can get the terminal going though
[01:15] <stdin> willempie: run this command in a terminal "lsb_release -cs" and post what it says
[01:15] <spiroo> willempie: start icon > system > Konsole (Terminal Application)
[01:15] <willempie> ok, one sec
[01:15] <runlevelten> spiroo: that's called the K menu.
[01:15] <knulfine> stoin: ok now there is a window open. I have to change one of the listed things... uhm chip... (don't know the english word) how do I know which one to choose?
[01:15] <spiroo> runlevelten, yea yea whatever :D
[01:15] <runlevelten> ;)
[01:15] <willempie> it says: feisty
[01:16] <runlevelten> No, really.
[01:16] <runlevelten> ;)
[01:16] <stdin> knulfine: what graphics card do you have? (eg: intel, nvidia, ati, etc..)
[01:16] <spiroo> choose nvidia if youre card is nvidia, LOL
[01:16] <knulfine> stoin: Well I don't know. I used windows before...
[01:17] <spiroo> VESA does not work for me if were talking about the resolution
[01:17] <nosrednaekim> spiroo: the mtp bug
[01:17] <willempie> spiroo:feisty
[01:17] <cjh> So are Wellsfargo bankers having sex with dell employees?
[01:18] <runlevelten> cjh: some of us are eating, thank you very much.
[01:18] <nosrednaekim> !ohmy | cjh
[01:18] <ubotu> cjh: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:18] <spiroo> ah okay, hmm yes, it is not fixed for me. Maybe I have Tribe 3 isntead of 4, not sure about the difference, but I guess it des not matter because of libmtp bug
[01:18] <stdin> knulfine: in another shell, paste "lspci | grep VGA" and post back
[01:18] <blekos> is there any chance wil know where kmail keeps the identity settings?
[01:18] <spiroo> willempie: LOL feisty is the codename for your dist version not your graphic card driver :D
[01:18] <willempie> spiroo / stdin: that zould be feisty
[01:19] <willempie> lol
[01:19] <willempie> well
[01:19] <knulfine> stoin what's a shelll? (sorry, really sorry I have to sound so stupid)
[01:19] <spiroo> first step is for your grapgic card
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> blekos: identity? it woul probably be in .kde/share/apps/kmail
[01:19] <stdin> willempie: you may need to install w32codecs, look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[01:19] <runlevelten> blekos, when I transfer kmail somehwre I move .kde/share/apps/kmail and everything relevant from .kde/share/config, then the same for kwallet
[01:19] <cjh> blekos: is it in /etc/kmail/
[01:19] <stdin> knulfine: open another konsole or another tab in konsole
[01:19] <runlevelten> as well as my mail folder.
[01:19] <willempie> thought I already done that, will give it another try though
[01:20] <spiroo> runlevelten, Is kmail the opposite to windows outlook kind a?
[01:20] <runlevelten> It couldn't be in /etc/kmail, cjh.
[01:20] <cjh> misread the locations I was at.
[01:20] <runlevelten> spiroo: If what you use outlook for is an email client, yeah :)
[01:21] <cjh> I think he meant Intergration-wise.
[01:21] <runlevelten> kontact is more like it. Evolution is the big groupware client if that's what you want.
[01:21] <runlevelten> Integration-wise, yes.
[01:21] <willempie> By the way: you guys are true guru's. thx for helping n00bs like me :-)
[01:22] <spiroo> okay, yea I usually use it as email client, lol :D
[01:22] <cjh> I need to work on spelling, or stop trying to spell.
[01:22] <ksivaji> what "eject " command will do ?
[01:22] <runlevelten> example, type an email address in the run dialog. Kmail will open a compose window for you ;)
[01:22] <stdin> ksivaji: man eject
[01:22] <knulfine> sstoin: there doesen't happen anything
[01:22] <ksivaji> stdin why dont we have inject command ?
[01:23] <runlevelten> eject -t
[01:23] <stdin> ^
[01:23] <cjh> inject?
[01:23] <spiroo> willempie: I am not guru, but I take that as a compliment :D
[01:23] <ksivaji> to inser cd drive
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> willempie: thats what we are here for :)
[01:23] <runlevelten> ksivaji: Read the man page dude. Come on, you're smart.
[01:23] <toby> In "Adept Manager", what is the meaning of the Kubuntu logo adjacent to some installable items? e.g. the compiz-core package featues the Kubuntu logo, but the compiz-kde does not.
[01:23] <toby> (There is no documentation for Adept Manager)
[01:23] <stdin> knulfine: try "lspci | grep Graphics"
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> I believe it denotes what repository it comes from, and wether or not it is officially supported.
[01:24] <stdin> toby: it means it's in the "main" repository and thus officially supported
[01:24] <spiroo> Does Adept need a documentation, it is as logical as it could be, if you ask me
[01:24] <knulfine> stoin: ok and now? There's a ">"
[01:24] <spiroo> though, i prefer apt-get in terminal
[01:24] <runlevelten> man <this>, info <that>, <theother> --help  - these three things are your torch to illuminate the dark, mysterious shell. Don't forget 'em, don't be afraid to use em. :D
 tried your w32 package, but still the same error
[01:25] <stdin> knulfine: make sure you didn't put any quotes in there
[01:25] <stdin> knulfine: press Ctrl-C and try again
[01:25] <runlevelten> !man
[01:25] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:25] <ubuntu> hi
[01:25] <runlevelten> !info
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about info - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <stdin> willempie: what are you trying to play divx in?
[01:25] <willempie> totem
[01:25] <willempie> or mplayer
[01:25] <willempie> neither work
[01:26] <ksivaji> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ inject
[01:26] <ksivaji> bash: inject: command not found
[01:26] <ubuntu> I installed wireless drivers, while running from CD, is there a way to avoid rebooting in order to load?
[01:27] <cjh> hate rebooting that much?
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> willempie: if you are running ubuntu and totem, please go to #ubuntu.
[01:27] <willempie> Im not using ubuntu
[01:27] <cjh> you could restart your Network Interface, which restarts the hardware and drivers.
[01:27] <willempie> kubuntu
[01:27] <blekos> is there a way to have mails save to another folder?
[01:27] <runlevelten> !info is <reply> The "info" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in - if it doesn't have a !man page, it probably has an info one. Try "info intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:27] <blekos> or another partition?
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: yes, there is a way.
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> willempie: oh ok..sorry :)
[01:28] <ubuntu> cjh, im running from CD
[01:28] <knulfine> stoin: after enter there's just my namemacomputername abain
[01:28] <willempie> nosrednaekim: np, although I still might be in the wrong channel :-)
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: what new wireless driver are you using now?ndiswrapper?
[01:29] <ubuntu> noresnaekim, yep!
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: like, I mean, which one do you WANT to get running.
[01:29] <BFC> hi, I am trying to setup an NFS network between two linux computers. I was wondering where I found out what my server name and domain of my box?
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: ok, I need the output of "lsmod" in a pastebin
[01:29] <cjh> kubuntu.  I want to uncap my modem tFTP.  kubuntu.
[01:30] <nosrednaekim> willempie: heh... but the ubuntu channel is so packed... I wouldn't go there :)
[01:30] <nosrednaekim> willempie: have you tried kaffeine?
[01:30] <willempie> So, still no divx :-( Any suggestions anyone??
[01:30] <willempie> Ah
[01:30] <spiroo_> hehe kubuntu channel was ovefloaded now I guess
[01:30] <willempie> Ill give it a go
[01:30] <nosrednaekim> willempie:
[01:31] <blekos> when I try to export an html page to pdf the default convertion program crashes any suggestions?
[01:31] <spiroo_> Got, denied connection :P
[01:31] <runlevelten> !torch
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about torch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <ubuntu> norednaekim, http://pastebin.com/m227b1de2
[01:32] <spiroo_> anyway, which mp3 codec should I install for Amarok?
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> willempie: and if you want to play divx you need another package... "avifile-divx-plugin"
[01:32] <willempie> nodresnaekim: tried kaffeine. It plays, but no image or sound. And it plays waaay to fast (a 7 min clip in 3 seconds)
[01:32] <stdin> spiroo_: libxine-extracodecs
[01:33] <willempie> what command can I use to get that package (ultran00bmode=on)
[01:33] <spiroo_> is that best?
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> spiroo_: "libxine-extracodecs"
[01:33] <spiroo_> yes?
[01:34] <stdin> spiroo_: you asked "anyway, which mp3 codec should I install for Amarok?" we just told you
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> willempie: lol.... umm "sudo apt-get install avifile-divx-plugin"
[01:34] <willempie> thx
[01:34] <willempie> getting the hang of this :-)
[01:34] <spiroo_> stdin, in Adept it does not say that libxine-extracodecs is mp3 codec :P
[01:35] <stdin> runlevelten: yes, I saw it :p
[01:35] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim , could you please check the output at the link?
[01:35] <stdin> spiroo_: well, it is
[01:35] <knulfine> stoin: after your command and enter there came manameATmycomputername again
[01:35] <spiroo_> okay, I will try it then
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> spiroo_: its a meta package.... it pulls in several other codecs as welll
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: I am I am.. don't rush me or I make mistakes ;)
[01:36] <spiroo_> hehe
[01:36] <willempie> I wish there was this megacodecpack for kubuntu, like klite one
[01:36] <stdin> willempie: there will be for gutsy
[01:36] <Skrot-> A meta package?
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: run "sudo rmmod bcm43xx"
[01:36] <stdin> there will be a kubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:36] <spiroo_> anyway, is there any command like in windows for processes like ctr+alt+del
[01:36] <runlevelten> Something to drag them all in I suppose.
[01:37] <runlevelten> cool.
[01:37] <willempie> ctrl esc
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> ctrl+esc
[01:37] <stdin> that ^
[01:37] <willempie> woohoo
[01:37] <spiroo_> cool thank you
[01:37] <willempie> Im not the ultranoob anymore :-D
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> willempie: you're not that nooby!
[01:37] <spiroo_> btw, got another similar thing. In windows I can type alt+4 char code for special chars. How do I do in Linux?
[01:37] <willempie> lol
[01:38] <runlevelten> I'm the ultranoob. Have been for more than a decade ^^
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: got that? now see if wireless works.
[01:38] <willempie> Well, installed that package as well... totem still gives the Video codec 'DivX 5' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies message
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> willempie: try kaffeine... thats what fixed it for me. Notice also that that plugin is for divx 5 movies... so maybe thats it.
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> *divx4
[01:39] <willempie> I see
[01:39] <willempie> no linuxcodec for divx5?
[01:40] <waylandbill_> mplayer and xine should do 4 and 5 I thought
[01:41] <llutz> waylandbill_: they do
[01:41] <willempie> I'll give mplayer another try. Kaffeine still does the same speedy no image or sound thingy
[01:41] <knulfine> head -> wall
[01:42] <runlevelten> yeah, 5 should be supported some time ago.
[01:42] <willempie> Error opening/initializing the selected video _out (vo) device ---> in mplayer
[01:42] <anandanbu> I have installed k/Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows XP and i need install LinuxMint 3.0 either by deleting the windows partition or installing it in the 15Gb free space please give your suggestions for the installation
[01:42] <willempie> sounds more like a setting to me then a codec
[01:42] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim, it seems to work, awesome, now I can install kubuntu >(
[01:43] <ubuntu> oops wroing keymap
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> :)
[01:43] <runlevelten> God, it's almost as if you're using Totem or something :(
[01:43] <ubuntu> :)   -   better smiley
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: that WAS a rather angry face:
[01:43] <willempie> runlevelten: are you calling me god now?? :-P
[01:43] <ubuntu> yes, result of wrong keymap
[01:44] <spiroo_> willempie, sounds some codec problem or setting in mplayer. I got same error before
[01:44] <willempie> spiroo_: did you solve it??
[01:44] <spiroo_> Anyway my experience says that you should use Amarok for music, mplayer for dvd/movie
[01:44] <maverick> !pm
[01:44] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: better fix your attitude there ;-)
[01:44] <spiroo_> yes, not sure how though
[01:44] <willempie> too bad
[01:45] <spiroo_> I think I sorted it out while I changed some settings in mplayer
[01:45] <maverick> join /bash
[01:45] <spiroo_> try right click on maplayer and go to preferences/settings
[01:45] <willempie> let me uncheck some checkboxes and set some settings :-)
[01:45] <kraut> moin
[01:46] <spiroo_> YES; MY AUDIO SOUNDS GOOD NOW! WOHO :D
[01:46] <spiroo_> thank you, that guy/girl who said I should install libxine-extracodecs
[01:47] <spiroo_> works even with NTFS files :D
[01:47] <spiroo_> I think it even sounds better than Windows :D
[01:48] <spiroo_> jut love the base :D
[01:48] <spiroo_> *just
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> spiroo_: stdin and I say you are welcome
[01:48] <willempie> it does, no horrible errorsounds :p
[01:48] <spiroo_> nosrednaekim and stdin. Thank you very very much!
[01:48] <stdin> you are welcome
[01:48] <spiroo_> Now I gonna help some firends with the theyre sound
[01:49] <spiroo_> *firends
[01:49] <spiroo_> wtf: friends
[01:49] <willempie> darn... Still can't get that divx to work :'( ...which is bassically the only thing I need it for :-S
[01:49] <spiroo_> never gonna complain on linux again.
[01:49] <willempie> Spread the love, spiroo_
[01:50] <Gwall> :)
[01:50] <spiroo_> Anyway, why do you have to play divx? I never use divx :D lol
[01:50] <willempie> lol
[01:50] <willempie> ever heard of joox.net??
[01:50] <spiroo_> xvid i play though ;P
[01:50] <willempie> or tv-links.co.uk
[01:50] <spiroo_> talking to me?
[01:50] <willempie> yep
[01:50] <spiroo_> I mean was that addressed to me ,P
[01:50] <willempie> joox.net is brilliant
[01:51] <spiroo_> hmm, no I do not know
[01:51] <willempie> typing to me?? lol
[01:51] <spiroo_> what is that?
[01:51] <willempie> check it out
[01:51] <stdin> !ot
[01:51] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:51] <willempie> it has all the movies and tvshows on it
[01:51] <willempie> rather off topic though
[01:51] <willempie> sorry guys
[01:51] <spiroo_> okay sorry, not gonna do general chatter
[01:51] <willempie> np
[01:52] <willempie> ...but thats why :-)
[01:52] <willempie> And it doesnt work :-(
[01:52] <spiroo_> okay, anyway last thing about this. Use TPB :D
[01:52] <spiroo_> Anyone need help with something? :P
[01:52] <willempie> TPB? Whats that??
[01:53] <spiroo_> The Pirate Bay, ssh ... lol :D
[01:53] <MilhousePunkRock> thinkpad-buttons?
[01:53] <willempie> lol
[01:53] <willempie> of course it is :D
[01:53] <spiroo_> proud to be swedish, *NOT*
[01:54] <spiroo_> anyone has problem with sound install libxine-extracodecs and uninstall the rest :D
[01:54] <spiroo_> almost anyway :D
[01:54] <willempie> Wellm anyone has any suggestions for playing divx?? Otherwise I go back to the shadows of the google-valley of depth
[01:54] <spiroo_> try go into adept handler and search for divx
[01:55] <willempie> done that
[01:55] <spiroo_> what kind of divx are you going to play, DVD, avi?
[01:55] <willempie> must have a billion codecs installed right now... Which, unfortunately, dont zork
[01:55] <willempie> it has a d.divx extention
[01:55] <Gwall> morning
[01:55] <willempie> divx 5
[01:55] <willempie> morning
[01:55] <spiroo_> OKay, a tip, do not install everything. sooner or later adept is going to explode :D lol
[01:56] <spiroo_> it could get some conflicts with other codecs
[01:56] <willempie> lol, I wouldnt want that to happen :-/
[01:56] <spiroo_> seems divx is not very well supported :D
[01:57] <willempie> Well guys and galls, thanks for trying to help and all...
[01:57] <spiroo_> only 4 realted packages in adept :P
[01:57] <stdin> for divx in firefox follow > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=491592
[01:57] <spiroo_> *related
[01:57] <willempie> thanks once more
[01:57] <willempie> One day Ill be as guru-like as you guys
[01:57] <spiroo_> hehe, sure do ;P
[01:58] <spiroo_> you gonna love linux if you had windows before
[01:58] <spiroo_> I never gonna use Windows when I have converted every file to EXT3 partition, or I mean transfered
[01:58] <spiroo_> Only has Windows Vista installed as backup just in case
[01:59] <willempie> I've been supporting windows for years now... thought it was time for a change
[01:59] <spiroo_> same for me
[01:59] <spiroo_> Though I do not support Windows, never done
[01:59] <spiroo_> *did
[01:59] <willempie> and its nice to have a fast OS on a slow laptop
[02:00] <spiroo_> yea. Linux is far away faster than Windows, ask intelikey concerning that :D
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> c ya'll!
[02:00] <spiroo_> cya, thank you
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> lol... intellikey an his k7...
[02:00] <spiroo_> :D
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> and his command line mania.... that guy is questionably sane
[02:01] <spiroo_> you have to love linux. Everyone should convert to linux :D
[02:01] <spiroo_> www.convert-to-linux.com  - Should be fun :D
[02:02] <spiroo_> I think Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Emubuntu is easier to install than windows.
[02:02] <spiroo_> This has to do with Kubuntu :D
[02:03] <spiroo_> Anyway, if anyone has quesitions, feel free to ask. I just do not wanna just sit here and dont do anything while waiting on questions
[02:04] <spiroo_> anyway, I got some question btw that I did not get answered I think. Is there anyway to type special chars in Linux like alt + 4 char code in Windows?
[02:05] <spiroo_> like alt+0124
[02:06] <llutz> spiroo_: use kde keyboard-layouts and switch between them
[02:06] <spiroo_> lol, no thanks
[02:07] <spiroo_> I want swedish layout 24/7, not gonna switch
[02:07] <willempie> hey guys, me again
[02:07] <spiroo_> hehe, hello again
[02:07] <willempie> (ultran00bmode=off)
[02:07] <spiroo_> haha
[02:08] <willempie> I tried the manual, which has sth to do with replacing your firefoxplugins
[02:08] <spiroo_> special chars in linux, anyone has better suggestions then llutz? :P
[02:08] <willempie> ...but when I mv * to the directory, I get a message saying its refused to copy there
[02:09] <spiroo_> I need similar like alt + 4 char code in windows
[02:09] <stdin> willempie: use sudo
[02:09] <spiroo_> Maybe there is some plugin, but which? I really need this for php programming
[02:09] <willempie> ah, that might be just it
[02:09] <willempie> thx
[02:09] <spiroo_> Or alla programming btw.
[02:09] <spiroo_> *all
[02:10] <blekos> could you tell me the program that splits the terminal screen into two screens?
[02:11] <spiroo_> nope, sorry. No experience about that :P
[02:11] <[ifr0g] > blekos, maybe screen  could do that..
[02:11] <Qaira> wholy moly: kubuntu is really great, i just bought a lappy and first tried installing debian etch but failed and when tried kubuntu, it has recognized most of the hardware
[02:11] <trekdanne> blekos: GNU screen
[02:11] <spiroo_> Why would you need that btw?
[02:11] <Qaira> that is really really awesome
[02:11] <blekos> thnx
[02:11] <spiroo_> yes, Kubuntu FTW
[02:12] <Qaira> but the bad part is that the CD doesn't come with Kdevelop and other stuff for programming
[02:12] <spiroo_> recommended by most people. Even professionals :P
[02:12] <Qaira> do i have download them all?
[02:12] <stdin> Qaira: yes, yes you do
[02:12] <spiroo_> Just tow words: Zend Studio
[02:13] <Qaira> stdin: i have internet with 128 kb/s, for example to get kdevelop, will it take too long?
[02:13] <stdin> Qaira: just grab "build-essential" and "kdevelop" (possibly "kde-devel" too)
[02:13] <spiroo_> sudo apt-get install apache2 php5
[02:13] <spiroo_> if you mean that kind of develop :D
[02:13] <stdin> Qaira: not sure, probably a while...
[02:14] <stdin> kde-devel is the worst, takes ages to get
[02:14] <Qaira> I see, if kubuntu will start coming out in full packages, it will certainly hit even ms win :-) IMHO
[02:14] <spiroo_> what is kde-devel, btw?
[02:14] <willempie> WOOOHOOO
[02:14] <willempie> look at me being happy
[02:14] <willempie> it works like a charm
[02:14] <spiroo_> :P
[02:14] <willempie> thank you guys SO MUCH
[02:15] <willempie> stdin, spiroo_: you guys are tha bomb
[02:15] <spiroo_> you are welcome, says everyone i guess :P
[02:15] <Qaira> willempie: what are you happy for?
[02:15] <stdin> spiroo_: it downloads the packages needed for KDE development
[02:15] <willempie> got divx working in firefox
[02:15] <spiroo_> great ;P
[02:15] <stdin> willempie: :)
[02:15] <willempie> well, not litterally the bomb
[02:16] <Qaira> willempie: :-)
[02:16] <spiroo_> Ah okay, develop KDE, nice. But do you install full source or what?
[02:16] <willempie> ...but if that was true, you guys would be Weapons of mass distruction
[02:16] <llutz> Qaira: kdevelop with deps is about 15MB, with kde-devel about 65MB ;)
[02:16] <willempie> MOABs
[02:16] <spiroo_> haha :D
[02:16] <stdin> spiroo_: no, just the headers
[02:16] <Qaira> wholy, that will take an hour and half to download them then
[02:16] <spiroo_> okay, yes I see, but is it a lot then?
[02:17] <willempie> Anyone needs help with divx in firefox?? :-D
[02:17] <spiroo_> hehe, I feel sorry that you have to download with 128 kbps
[02:17] <llutz> spiroo_: thats ony the header-files and all that stuff you need to develop kde-apps
[02:17] <spiroo_> willempie, I guess youre unique qith divx :D
[02:17] <llutz> it's not kde-source itself
[02:17] <spiroo_> *with
[02:17] <willempie> ...I'm a divx vet
[02:18] <Qaira> ahhhhhh, by the way, is it possible (well actually i heard it is possible) but I mean are all the debian packages installable in kubuntu?
[02:18] <willempie> Seen it all
[02:18] <spiroo_> llutz, thank you for clarify that for me.
[02:18] <llutz> Qaira: possible yes, but not recommended
[02:18] <Assid> okay anyone here played with samba?
[02:18] <Qaira> because i have 3 Debian Etch dvds full of all packages for every case :-)
[02:18] <stdin> Qaira: possible, yes. recommended, no
[02:18] <Qaira> llutz: why not?
[02:18] <spiroo_> I am a Full HD fan btw :D
[02:18] <Qaira> stdin: why not recommended?
[02:18] <llutz> Qaira: it may drive you into trouble. kubuntu bases on debian but isn't 100% debian anymore
[02:19] <stdin> Qaira: while we use the same packaging system, we use different versions and different depends
[02:19] <stdin> Qaira: there is a possibility of them conflicting and breaking the system
[02:19] <Qaira> I see, that is again not for my goodness :-)
[02:19] <spiroo_> Samba, btw, is it possible to connect to a SMB in Samba. I want a shortcut to my network file sharing :P
[02:20] <llutz> spiroo_: man smbmount
[02:20] <stdin> !samba
[02:20] <Qaira> I guess I will just go to my brother's work and download there with 512 kb/s
[02:20] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:20] <spiroo_> man smbmount, then what?
[02:20] <llutz> read it
[02:20] <stdin> !man | spiroo_
[02:20] <sander__> is there a simple way of installing KDE4 on a kubuntu system?
[02:20] <ubotu> spiroo_: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:20] <stdin> sander__: read the /topic
[02:21] <spiroo_> okay thank you bot and stdin
[02:22] <willempie> well, I'm very happy, as you all can tell... But there's one ;ore but :-)
[02:22] <spiroo_> man commands sounds risky :P
[02:22] <willempie> *more
[02:22] <stdin> spiroo_: why?
[02:22] <spiroo_> okay what?
[02:22] <willempie> It works great in FF with mplayer
[02:22] <spiroo_> stdin, user commands. I will destory something :D
[02:22] <willempie> ...but not in mpayer alone
[02:22] <spiroo_> destroy
[02:22] <stdin> spiroo_: you can't destroy anything with man
[02:24] <willempie> I'm sure he can ;-)
[02:24] <nixternal> plus destorying something is half the fun...it was the way I learned many many years ago...destroy - fix
[02:24] <stdin> nope, he really cant
[02:25] <willempie> oh... (/ultran00bmode=on + switch is broken)
[02:26] <llutz> nixternal: that was before you learned to read? ;)
[02:26] <spiroo_> okay, good to know then but do I just type man smbmount?
[02:26] <spiroo_> it says, No manual entry for smbmount. I guess the error is my bad, but why if I may ask?
[02:26] <spiroo_> would be easier if I could do it in GUI Dolphin for example, lol
[02:27] <llutz> spiroo_: konqueror -> addressline -> smb://
[02:27] <stdin> many years ago there wan nothing to read, so we had to entertain ourselfs by breaking and then fixing the system.
[02:27] <spiroo> smb://GLOBALNET    ?
[02:27] <llutz> stdin: even slackware 1/2 etc came with some documentation
[02:27] <stdin> it was known as "The Golden Age"
[02:27] <spiroo> stdin: hahahahaha rofl
[02:28] <spiroo> better in old days I guess.
[02:28] <zipper> lol
[02:28] <zipper> it really wasnt
[02:28] <spiroo> But before you had nothing to be afraid of. You had no documents and fiels :D
[02:28] <zipper> unless you're a masochist i guess
[02:28] <spiroo> I was ironic
[02:29] <zipper> well, believe it or not, but some zealots prefer the days before such blasphemy as, eek, X
[02:29] <spiroo> zipper, it is just an expression
[02:30] <spiroo> haha okay, yea maybe some people looking backwards
[02:30] <spiroo> anyway, SMB, is smb://GLOBALNET correct?
[02:31] <llutz> spiroo_:just smb://  or if you look for a special host smb://hostname
[02:31] <llutz> smb:// to browse
[02:31] <Assid> cmon samba.. work!!!1
[02:32] <spiroo> okay, but how do I create a shortcut to a special host/computer?
[02:32] <llutz> bookmark it
[02:32] <stdin> right click > create new > link to location
[02:32] <spiroo> eh, when I only typed smb:// I got into my own root folder :D
[02:33] <llutz> samba *shudder*
[02:33] <spiroo> okay thank you stdin, will try that
[02:33] <spiroo> how do I myself on my computer share files in Linux?
[02:33] <llutz> nfs/ssh
[02:34] <spiroo> I mean on my LAN
[02:34] <llutz> spiroo: me too
[02:34] <stdin> lots and lots of ways
[02:34] <spiroo> lol
[02:34] <spiroo> which is the easiest?
[02:34] <llutz> ssh
[02:34] <stdin> http, ftp, scp, sftp, samba, nfs etc....
[02:34] <spiroo> I prefer GUI for that if it is anyone
[02:35] <llutz> spiroo: konqueror can handle nearly all of that
[02:35] <spiroo> I want like Windows do, to share folders in the LAN
[02:35] <stdin> linux to linux = install ssh and use sftp:/ in konqueror
[02:35] <llutz> fish://
[02:35] <spiroo> llutz, cool I thought about uninstall Konqueror, but I guess not now :D
[02:35] <stdin> llutz: fish is slower than sftp
[02:36] <stdin> spiroo: that would break things anyway
[02:36] <llutz> maybe, but fast enough for me
[02:36] <spiroo> I want Windows to linux and Linux to windows
[02:36] <runlevelten> Don't uninstall Konqueror. VERY useful app.
[02:36] <spiroo> yes I know now :D
[02:36] <willempie> hooray for the mplayer channel
[02:36] <willempie> the problem was solved by scaling
[02:36] <spiroo> Konqueror sucks for Internet browsing anyway :D
[02:36] <stdin> llutz: fish is a wrapper for ssh, modern ssh has sftp server integrated
[02:36] <stdin> spiroo: in what way exactly ?
[02:36] <llutz> stdin: i know
[02:36] <spiroo> willempie: nice ;P
[02:37] <spiroo> http
[02:37] <sander__> when I try to install these kde4base-dev packages I get some error which tells me that "Some packages could not be installed."
[02:37] <spiroo> and https of course
[02:37] <runlevelten> spiroo: Actually, it doesn't. You can use it as a very light fast browser, since it has options to "Open in Opera, Open in Firefox" etc. in the menu.
[02:37] <stdin> spiroo: no, in way is konqueror not a good browser ?
[02:37] <arun> how do you use fish:/ to share files
[02:37] <runlevelten> It will have an entry for pretty much every browser you install.
[02:38] <spiroo> because no good GUI for Internet browsing and Webdevelopment
[02:38] <stdin> arun: install ssh on both boxes and use sftp://host or fish://host
[02:38] <runlevelten> arun: once you have sshd running, clients can use fish:// to access them.
[02:38] <arun> ah
[02:38] <stdin> spiroo: why?
[02:38] <arun> what about http?
[02:38] <runlevelten> Funny. I would say konqueror improves my web development workload massively.
[02:39] <stdin> spiroo: it had tabs long before firefox was born
[02:39] <spiroo> no plugins, no good menu bar, not much settings like I want
[02:39] <runlevelten> Most notably the integration between it and ssh/ftp and my editing tools.
[02:39] <spiroo> Haha, not talking about tabs :D
[02:39] <spiroo> rofl :D:D:D:D:D:D
[02:39] <stdin> spiroo: no good plugins? FF and Konq use the same pluguns
[02:39] <runlevelten> Not much settings and no plugins. I think you haven't actually used konqueror ;)
[02:39] <sander__> someone actually tried to install KDE4 beta1 on KUbuntu?
[02:40] <stdin> s/pluguns/plugins
[02:40] <spiroo> BTW, is there anyway to similate IE. I hate IE, but need for bug testing websites sometimes
[02:40] <runlevelten> ies4linux
[02:40] <stdin> spiroo: install it in wine ^
[02:40] <llutz> ie4linux
[02:40] <spiroo> lol :D
[02:40] <spiroo> I guess I have not noticed the potential of Konqueror yet .P
[02:41] <spiroo> I hate wine, is there not any simulator or plugin in Konqueror?
[02:41] <spiroo> I wanna test IE 6 and 7 mostly
[02:41] <runlevelten> No, if you want to test for the browser, you need to test with the browser.
[02:41] <sander__> spiroo: ehm it's a windows application?!
[02:41] <spiroo> would be great if I could test Zafari too :D lol
[02:41] <arun> spiroo: install ies4linux
[02:41] <stdin> spiroo: why would we want to introduce bugs to konqueror?
[02:41] <spiroo> sander_: daaa, I know :D
[02:42] <arun> spiroo: or install vmware and run windows/ie under that
[02:42] <spiroo> stdin: what do you mean?
[02:42] <llutz> arun: it's based on wine too, isn't it?
[02:42] <spiroo> ah okay now I get it :D
[02:42] <runlevelten> He means Internet Explorer is full of bugs, which if you're a web developer, you already agree with ;)
[02:42] <stdin> spiroo: the only way to simulate IE in konqueror would be to put in the same bugs intentionally
[02:42] <voln> Firefox have a lot of extensions, Konq is not, Konq is slow and heavy apps
[02:43] <spiroo> I do not wanna browse with IE, I hate it. I just want the render tool like Gecko
[02:43] <arun> llutz: i think so.. i just use vmware/windows
[02:43] <spiroo> stdin: hahahahahah
[02:43] <stdin> voln: you have that backwards, konqueror is much lighter
[02:43] <spiroo> voln: what are you talking about?
[02:43] <runlevelten> voln: how is konqueror slow?!
[02:44] <voln> runlevelten slow
[02:44] <spiroo> yea, KOnqueror is a lightweight application, unless you do it heavy with purpose or not purpose works as well :D
[02:44] <runlevelten> voln: don't be silly. :)
[02:44] <runlevelten> Of course it's not slow.
[02:44] <arun> how do i share files via http?
[02:44] <spiroo> maybe you try to run it from GNOME :D
[02:45] <runlevelten> arun: For a small casual share, add the personal file server applet to your panel and use that.
[02:45] <spiroo> btw, why does GNOME apps in KDE run slow, like GParted and vice versa
[02:45] <stdin> arun: you can either install apache or another httpd, or use the file sharing applet for kicker
[02:46] <runlevelten> arun: then right click on it, select "new server" and follow the prompts.
[02:46] <stdin> spiroo: because the system needs to load the GTK+ libs
[02:47] <spiroo> I takes one year at least do checking devices in GParted
[02:47] <spiroo> *do = to
[02:47] <spiroo> And just have to say it, IE sucks, it is the only one I think that has no support at all for the REAL XHTML standa. Why M$, whyrd
[02:48] <spiroo> stdin, ah okay. But is there anyway to load it faster then?
[02:48] <stdin> spiroo: run gnome
[02:48] <spiroo> lol, I prefer KDE
[02:48] <stdin> or buy a supercomputer
[02:48] <runlevelten> keep the appropriate gtk libraries loaded
[02:48] <spiroo> hehe
[02:49] <spiroo> what is GTK+ btw? Kind of new to this :P
[02:49] <spiroo> *on
[02:49] <stdin> !gtk
[02:49] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[02:49] <spiroo> *fresh
[02:49] <runlevelten> the gui toolkit, although in this instance you're talking about other stuff too a lot of the time.
[02:49] <spiroo> thank you bot, you have to love bots sometimes
[02:50] <runlevelten> I run some GTK apps under KDE, because some are the best of their type.
[02:50] <spiroo> runlevelten: what do you mean with: ""talking about other stuff too a lot of the time"
[02:50] <arun_> hello
[02:50] <runlevelten> ie: GIMP, xqf, et cetera. I rarely get slowness tbh.
[02:50] <sehe> like !GIMP very much indeed
[02:50] <arun_> sorry, i got disconnected
[02:51] <sehe> there must be some paradox in that statement
[02:51] <arun_> runlevelten: you were saying about apache/kpf?
[02:51] <runlevelten> spiroo: gnome cruft.
[02:51] <spiroo> I miss a good partitioner in KDE
[02:51] <stdin> spiroo: qtparted ?
[02:51] <sehe> qtparted sucks big time!!!
[02:51] <afaith> hello there! i've found a tutorial on http://www.debian-administration.org/, (http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/73) and i don't know if i can aply it to solve my problem
[02:51] <spiroo> qtparted sucks
[02:51] <stdin> sehe: why?
[02:51] <llutz> cfdisk
[02:51] <sehe> crappy GUI, messed up my commit sequene once too!
[02:51] <stdin> spiroo: why?
[02:51] <spiroo> because you cannot do anything in it
[02:52] <stdin> sehe, spiroo: you don't know that that's what you used to install kubuntu?
[02:52] <spiroo> you cannot even unmount and mount as in GParted
[02:52] <runlevelten> cfdisk ftw, by the way.
[02:52] <afaith> i've got apache running on the local ethernet interface (eth0) but i want to let a friend of mine to see a couple of pages. but i don't want to stop apache. can i do that forward with iptable s?
[02:52] <sehe> stdin: If I remember correctly it messed up my drive when I did a 'copy' and 'resize' in one batch
[02:52] <afaith> please, help me, i'm really in need
[02:52] <spiroo> stdin, "wrong, I did now"
[02:52] <sehe> stdin: gparted however, rocks!
[02:52] <stdin> sehe: like I said, that's what you used to install kubuntu?
[02:53] <spiroo> I mean I knowed I use it, BTW it is from Windows Magic Partition but coded in C++ isntead
[02:53] <sehe> stdin: the integration into kubuntu installer is ok, that's another topic
[02:53] <spiroo> *Partition Magic
[02:54] <sehe> stdin: really the kind of thing you do then is 'simple' compared to what i do with gparted
[02:54] <spiroo> I want more tools like in Norton Partition Magic, that tool rocks all apps for partitions
[02:54] <sehe> stdin: I didn't mean to burn qtparted down all the way :)
[02:54] <fabio_> teste
[02:54] <spiroo> sehe: just agree with you, Gparted is far away better than QTParted
[02:54] <stdin> sehe: you can't, it's a decent app (now)
[02:55] <sehe> spiroo: gparted beats Partition Magic in my book. Open Source, cross platform, mmmmuuuuccchhh more felxible
[02:55] <sehe> stdin: good point. I love the way it all integrates in the kubuntu dist anyways
[02:55] <afaith> no one :( please guys, i really need help :(
[02:55] <stdin> afaith: afaik, no you need to restart apache
[02:55] <sehe> afaith: use ssh?
[02:56] <stdin> sehe: the kubuntu devs put a lot of work in to it for the live installer
[02:56] <spiroo> maybe in some cercumstances
[02:56] <afaith> stdin: i don't want to restart apache
[02:56] <sehe> afaith: ssh -L port:server:port syntax, maybe use -fN
[02:56] <stdin> afaith: you said, but why?
[02:56] <sander__> !paste
[02:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:56] <afaith> sehe: shy should i use ssh when i think i can use iptables. is that tutorial wrong ?
[02:56] <spiroo> stdin: The Live Installer has nothing to do with it. Develop the application in Desktop mode instead.
[02:57] <stdin> spiroo: it's the _same_ app
[02:57] <sehe> afaith: yes you can use iptables. grok the man if you want
[02:57] <spiroo> I know ;) But it seems they only develop it for installer purpose not as an application
[02:57] <sehe> afaith: only suggested ssh as it is far easier to do ad-hoc with less potential impact on your pc config
[02:58] <sehe> spiroo: indeed
[02:58] <stdin> spiroo: there is no difference, the installer runs on the desktop...
[02:58] <stdin> live session/installed, same app
[02:58] <spiroo> but, yhy. I know. But I do not think you know what I mean
[02:58] <sander__> The problem I get with KDE4 packages are posted here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34296/
[02:58] <sander__> perhaps you can have a look and help me out :)
[02:59] <spiroo> Develop more functions in the application not only develop to better the functions up.
[02:59] <sehe> stdin: spiroo: by the way that is amazing of all ubuntu dists. You can simply work with a fuyll system while still installing it (or not)
[02:59] <spiroo> We need better support for deifferent filesystems and resizing.
[02:59] <sehe> afaith: ?
[02:59] <sehe> spiroo: which one is lacking in your opinion?
[02:59] <afaith> stdin & sehe: i've said that i run apache on <IP_ADDRESS> (eth0) in my LAN . i want to allow a person from outsite the local network to acces it, without having to restart apache and to modify httpd.conf . i believe that i can use iptables. i've found that tutorial, but i don't know if it will work. sehe suggested me to use ssh. it will help ? if i do this for example, ssh -L 80:89.122.*.*:80 it will work ? i really doubt that
[03:00] <llutz> spiroo: ask m$ for opening ntfs-sources
[03:00] <spiroo> It said when I should delete a partition, unmount all disks that is higher then sdax
[03:00] <sander__> pretty please with a sugar on top?
[03:00] <afaith> yes sehe i'm here.i was typing
[03:00] <sehe> afaith: i c
[03:00] <spiroo> sehe: Not quite sure, most EXT2 and NTFS
[03:00] <sehe> afaith:you want external internet access to a PC on your local network 192.168.*
[03:00] <sehe> afaith: you could do that with iptables on the box that is publicly visible
[03:01] <spiroo> llutz: Yea lol
[03:01] <sehe> afaith:on another note, you probably have a router that is capable of NAT
[03:01] <sehe> afaith:usually the safest/simpest way to configure a NAT translation on the router to your <IP_ADDRESS> box
[03:01] <afaith> sehe: the box i'm talking it's the sameone that acts as a gateway. my pc. the one i'm using now to chat with you.
[03:02] <henri_> http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2007/08/18/ubuntu--why-it-is-wrong-for-america.aspx
[03:02] <sehe> spiroo: I don't recall there is anything I can't do (have a look at the suppoorted features matrix in Gparted) with ext3 and ntfs
[03:02] <henri_> damn
[03:02] <spiroo> anyway, why could not every single company in the world agree with ONE Single standard. Not a thousand different ones. Talking mostly for M$ and Pony (Sony)
[03:02] <sehe> spiroo: i use ntfs-3g btw
[03:02] <sander__> can someone at least have a look at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34296/
[03:02] <spiroo> me too
[03:03] <afaith> sehe: as i said, apache is running on the local interface, eth0. if i access http://<IP_ADDRESS>:80 from my network it works. i want now to allow one of my friends to access my apache by writing this : http://89.122.*.*:80 . i've found that tutorial. it will do the job ?
[03:03] <spiroo> I can do the most, but I mean it has not full support.
[03:03] <sehe> afaith: so probably apache binds to local (loopback) only?
[03:03] <sehe> you can change the config, and send a reload signal to apache2
[03:03] <sehe> afaith: apache/apache2?
[03:03] <spiroo> speaking of partitions, grub is lacking when I delete and partition and I have to reinstall linux because I cannot boot.
[03:04] <afaith> sehe: i believe it's apache (i run it via /etc/init.d/httpd start/stop) it matters ?
[03:04] <spiroo> Mostly when I delete and OS partition, even if it is not set as active
[03:04] <sehe> afaith: yes in the details. I believe apache has a reload command/signal as well
[03:04] <sehe> afaith: try /etc/init.d/httpd without argumetns to see if it lists a reload/reread-config option
[03:04] <spiroo> How do I solve the problem in grub, I wanna delete an old Linux partition without have to reinstall Linux another time?
[03:05] <afaith> sehe: but i don't want to change my httpd.conf every time i want to let someone to access it . i believe it's more practical to call a script that inserts a few iptables commands
[03:05] <sehe> spiroo: I don't recognize the problem, but most of my gripes with grub/partitions go away when using UUIDs for partition ID
[03:05] <spiroo> just Deny all, thats my suggestion :D
[03:06] <sehe> afaith: you are right.
[03:06] <spiroo> sehe: not mine I guess, how do I do? :P
[03:06] <sehe> afaith: i was assuming you were looking for a quick fix (this being a support channel), not a future-proof automated solution
[03:06] <spiroo> I wanna delete and Linux Kubuntu Partition which was registered as a boot point in grub.
[03:07] <afaith> sehe: so. .. is this tutorial (http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/73) gonna do the job ?
[03:07] <sehe> spiroo: in the old sense of 'a picture says more than a thousand words, lemme put up a fragment of my confs
[03:07] <spiroo> hehe, what you mean more specific?
[03:08] <sehe> afaith: looks ontopic... i don't have time to read it all. good luck with tinkering imho:)
[03:08] <sehe> spiroo: i'm pasting some of my grub menu.lst for ou... just a moment
[03:08] <afaith> sehe: i know it's a quick fix, but i'm tired to edit that conf every time. in this manner, by inserting an deleting iptables line, i can tell my father to open konsole, then type for example "apacheinternet" and call a script that will insert a few iptables lines into the firewall. it's just an example
[03:09] <spiroo> sehe: thank you very much
[03:09] <Qaira> people, this is strange, why there is no root in kubuntu?
[03:09] <stdin> !sudo | Qaira
[03:09] <ubotu> Qaira: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:09] <afaith> sehe: thanks very much
[03:10] <afaith> sehe: i'll try it now
[03:10] <Qaira> yes that is to run programs, but when i want to mount the windows partition?
[03:10] <runlevelten> sudo mount...
[03:10] <stdin> Qaira: mount is a program
[03:11] <stdin> Qaira: or just put it in /etc/fstab
[03:11] <stdin> !ntfs | and read
[03:11] <ubotu> and read: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:11] <Qaira> just like this? sudo mount /dev/[win]  /mnt
[03:11] <Qaira> ?
[03:11] <runlevelten> Qaira: you can do everything with sudo you can do with root
[03:11] <sehe> spiroo: meanwhile, update-grub(8) is a good source of how things work in *ubuntu
[03:11] <stdin> Qaira: basically, yeah
[03:12] <runlevelten> Qaira: including passwd, should you be so inclined ;)
[03:12] <stdin> there is really no need to enable root
[03:12] <spiroo> sehe: what you mean with update-grub, mean I should install in Adept?
[03:12] <sehe> spiroo: btw just realize feisty uses UUID partition references by defautl?
[03:12] <spiroo> I use Gutsy
[03:12] <sehe> spiroo: no, it's  a script comes with Grub
[03:12] <spiroo> :P
[03:13] <Qaira> i tried to mount the win part and it is already mounted :-)
[03:13] <sehe> spiroo: it's used when you use *ubuntu features to change partitions. If you do manually, you could use it
[03:13] <Qaira> i really like kubuntu
[03:13] <spiroo> Anyway, I wanna delete an reference I gonna delete fysically
[03:13] <sehe> spiroo: it effectively generates the proper menu.lst from 'meta-config' in menu.lst
[03:13] <Qaira> it is getting really interesting
[03:13] <Qaira> ok, thanks for the help
[03:13] <spiroo> OKay, sorry to bother, but how do I do, I wanna be sure that I do it right
[03:14] <sehe> spiroo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34299/
[03:14] <spiroo> btw, Qaira: When I installed, every single NTFS and EXT3 was automatially mounted, wii :D
[03:14] <stdin> spiroo: you shouldn't be running gutsy if you don't know what you're doing, it can (and probably will) break at any time
[03:15] <Qaira> :-) yeah the same case with me
[03:15] <kaminix> Suggestions for a Wikipedia like program which I don't have to install a webserver to get working?
[03:15] <sehe> spiroo: the interesting bits are the *commented* settings (!!!!!) between
[03:15] <spiroo> stdin: Gutsy has been breaking a lot of times ;P
[03:16] <stdin> yes, I know, I run it
[03:16] <spiroo> I just need it to get my Wireless network working, I must have it
[03:16] <sehe> spiroo: ## ## Start Default Options ##, ## ## End Default Options ##
[03:16] <sehe> spiroo: probably the crux to the story is line #74
[03:17] <afaith> sehe: bad news :( it doesn't do the trick
[03:17] <spiroo> sehe, yeah i noticed that :P
[03:17] <sehe> afaith: so sorry, but for me I'm going to let you figure it out by yourself, because this kind of question doesn't easliy answer itself on IRC :)
[03:18] <spiroo> but I am not gonna delete this partition, I mean another OS configuration for Kubuntu
[03:18] <sehe> spiroo: to be honest, I didn't think this up. ntfs partitions can also be identified by UUID (i do that)
[03:19] <spiroo> sehe: Hmm okay, but how do I do then, I really do not understand which lines and files I need to configure
[03:19] <sehe> spiroo: and there is the risk, that when you copy a full partition (gparted again) you must never forget to generate a new UUID for the copy (or conflicts will happen)
[03:19] <afaith> sehe : thanks anyway for your help. only a little question i want you to answer me if you like : can you point me a place where i can ask for help ? maybe a discussion board or another IRC channel
[03:19] <sehe> spiroo: see tune2fs --help
[03:20] <sehe> afaith: fraid I'm new to IRC, so anyone else ? (I just started chatting yesterday)
[03:20] <spiroo> I do not gonna copy a partition, I am gonna delete on and resozing another
[03:20] <afaith> anyone else willing to help me with a iptables problem, or tell me a place where i can get help ?
[03:21] <spiroo> BTW, Why I cannot create more then 4 partitions, I hate to have a extended one
[03:21] <sehe> spiroo: what specifically do you think is gonna break? Do you have a menu.lst in the style that I do?
[03:21] <spiroo> menu
[03:21] <spiroo> menu.Ist, where?
[03:21] <sehe> spiroo: in that case a 'sudo update-grub' should solve any problems
[03:22] <sehe> spiroo: just be sure to do that *before* rebooting hehehe
[03:22] <sehe> spiroo: !GRUB, or /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:22] <spiroo> haha okay, yes. I hope you have right, otherwise I will be back in a while :D
[03:22] <sehe> spiroo: on older systems/other dists used to be /boot/grub/grub.conf
[03:22] <spiroo> okay I certainly hope you are right.
[03:23] <sehe> spiroo: just read some grub docs if you need reassurance :d
[03:23] <spiroo> Okay, I guess mine is brand new then :D
[03:23] <spiroo> I use Vista and Kubutnu Gutsy :P
[03:23] <sehe> spiroo: if you are like me, just dive in and trust your backups
[03:23] <sehe> spiroo: (you do have backups, not?)
[03:23] <spiroo> good idea, I gonna take backup now. Is it possible to take one directly to a dvd-+rw?
[03:24] <sehe> spiroo: doesn't get much newer
[03:24] <spiroo> heh
[03:24] <sehe> spiroo: yeah why not. i would'nt advise it for practical reasons (experience :))
[03:24] <sehe> spiroo: my favorite is an external HHD
[03:24] <sehe> spiroo: HDD^^
[03:24] <spiroo> I always do backup in norton ghost 12 in Vista, but now I have not been able to do any ones for Linux, but I should now I guess :P
[03:25] <spiroo> My favourite is my Sandisk USB U3 Titanium :D
[03:25] <sehe> spiroo: yup. With an external harddrive you can even *copy/paste* the partition across drives using our beloved gparted
[03:25] <sehe> spiroo: crazy innit
[03:25] <sehe> spiroo: i'm not saying that is efficient tho
[03:25] <spiroo> haha okay :D
[03:25] <afaith> no one :( ?
[03:26] <sehe> spiroo: i used that, tune2fs --bla, plus daily rsync --bla to keep daily full system backups
[03:26] <spiroo> anyway, can I do backups directly to removable media in CDROM?
[03:26] <spiroo> I guess Cron would do the job ;P
[03:26] <waylandbill_> spiroo: dd will make a nice, quick backup
[03:26] <kondeDrakul> gparted is backup program ?
[03:27] <bjwebb> is there a way to run a command as a non-root user before the login screen?
[03:27] <spiroo> kondeDrakul, no
[03:27] <sehe> spiroo: lots of ppl do. i just don't fancy it. aversion to media failures, readiness problems, disk full conditions and the like
[03:27] <sehe> spiroo: i don't visit my server all too often, ya know
[03:27] <waylandbill_> gparted is a partition editor. I think it can copy paritions, which would be essentially the same thing though.
[03:27] <spiroo> I do not have any space on the harddrive or has any External Drives, so I do not have a choice
[03:27] <sehe> waylandbull_: gaprted uses dd internally, but nciely hidden from user :)
[03:28] <bjwebb> ?
[03:28] <waylandbill_> waylandbill.. not bull. :-)
[03:28] <kondeDrakul> i use sbackup ,but how restore from the terminal in case of crach the system ?
[03:28] <spiroo> Is it possible to do backup thrue FTP server?
[03:28] <waylandbill_> kondeDrakul: using a liveCD as a rescue system.
[03:28] <sehe> waylandbull_: spiroo: for CD/DVD tar cvjp / | mkisofs --bla is more sensible
[03:29] <Assid> arite
[03:29] <kondeDrakul> waylandbill,how ?
[03:29] <Assid> samba can officially sit on an egg and hatch it.. it just is a pita
[03:29] <michael> Random Fortune: I still maintain the point that designing a monolithic kernel in 1991 is a fundamental error. Be thankful you are not my student. You would not get a high grade for such a design :-) 	-- Andrew Tanenbaum to Linus Torvalds
[03:29] <spiroo> BTW, I cannot Backup if Grub cracshes, if I then have to boot from LiveCD, I could install too.
[03:29] <sehe> spiroo: yes. I think you want to do a package search for 'backup' keyword :)
[03:29] <sehe> spiroo: amanda, bacula, rdiff-backup etc.
[03:29] <waylandbill_> kondeDrakul: using a command line, and mounting the source and destinations.
[03:29] <stdin> !backup
[03:29] <spiroo> okay hehe
[03:29] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[03:29] <sehe> spiroo: i suppose Konserve should support FTP because of ftp KIO-slaev in kde :)
[03:30] <spiroo> !backup
[03:30] <spiroo> sorry, just had to try the command
[03:30] <stdin> !backup | spiroo
[03:30] <ubotu> spiroo: please see above
[03:30] <sehe> brilliant
[03:30] <spiroo> yes I saw
[03:30] <sehe> this bot is smart
[03:30] <spiroo> yea :D
[03:31] <spiroo> would be a nice friend to talk to :D
[03:31] <spiroo> lol
[03:31] <sehe> spiroo: mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[03:31] <waylandbill_> there are of course more sofisiticated solutions as you can see, but fundamentally, it's just copying files from one place to another.
[03:31] <bjwebb> is there a way to run a command as a non-root user before the login screen?
[03:31] <spiroo> anyway, sehe: which backup GUI/Frontend do you prefer then?
[03:31] <sehe> waylandbill_: #philosfy101
[03:32] <sehe> damn i carnt type
[03:32] <spiroo> lol
[03:32] <spiroo> Keep is already isntalle by default, should I use?
[03:33] <waylandbill_> bjwebb: I don't know if kubuntu's cron accepts the @reboot directive, but one of the cron programs does.. maybe vixie-cron is the one I may be thinking of.
[03:33] <sehe> spiroo: no experience
[03:33] <waylandbill_> spiroo: I've used Keep. It's not bad.
[03:33] <bjwebb> waylandbill_: okay
[03:33] <spiroo> waylandbill: Support for FTP and DVD writing then?
[03:34] <sehe> spiroo: waylandbill_: just notice it integrates with rdiff-backup (a personal favourite)
[03:34] <spiroo> okay, thanx
[03:34] <sehe> spiroo: waylandbill_: that doesn't imply DVD/FTP capabilites !
[03:35] <spiroo> to bad, which one should I install then?
[03:35] <sehe> spiroo: doesn't preclude it as well
[03:35] <spiroo> I guess I just create ISOs in K3b and burn them
[03:35] <sehe> spiroo: i'm doing a PoC test now over ftp (kioslave)
[03:35] <waylandbill_> there's always K3b.
[03:36] <mc|dad_> So, anybody here particularly gifted in the area of subnetting?
[03:36] <spiroo> Okay thanks sehe. I wanna upload files directly to an FTP stream to my host
[03:36] <spiroo> webhost, lol
[03:36] <bjwebb> waylandbill_: what about using crontab?
[03:39] <spiroo> is there anyway to split up an ISO, One ISO is to large for my DVD
[03:39] <spiroo> or any backup splitter for DVD
[03:42] <sehe> spiroo: no luck woth the kioslave here. So i guess that means Keep&&FTP==NoGo
[03:42] <sehe> spiroo: it is probably most convenient to split the data *before* making the iso
[03:43] <spiroo> Hmm okay, to bad. Guess I have to do it manually then
[03:43] <sehe> spiroo: I know some of the other packages mentioned will support ftp out-of-thebox
[03:43] <spiroo> sehe: yea probably, but I do not know how muc to split, because not sure about size
[03:44] <sehe> yeah always a dillemma. if you magically split iso's, it will be hard to access them in part however
[03:44] <spiroo> I will install a several different backup tools now ;P
[03:44] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[03:44] <spiroo> hello, welcome to IRC
[03:45] <sehe> swell innit, shortcut keys :)
[03:45] <sehe> spiroo: i'll be off for a moment or several :)
[03:45] <BluesKaj> thx spiroo... I'm a bit of a regular here :)
[03:46] <BluesKaj> coffee!
[03:47] <spiroo> BluesKay: sorry, mentioned wrong words then. Welcome only then ;P
[03:47] <mc|dads> stdin: Ever get clamav auto-scanning to work?
[03:47] <jimmacdonald> and just how does one "steel" coffee is this a new hardening technique I am unfamiliar with?
[03:47] <mc|dads> I'm trying to get it running, but it seems as thought the kernel module is having trouble in dapper.
[03:48] <stdin> mc|dads: no, I read a load of docs but it never worked. I was easier just to remove all the windows clients..
[03:49] <stdin> mc|dads: I think I remember it being on the feisty to-do list, but other than that I gave up on it
[03:49] <mc|dads> stdin: The purpose of this machine I'm setting up for my dad is to be a backup server for all of his windows clients :)
[03:49] <mc|dads> Well the kernel module is in the repos... it just won't load.
[03:52] <anna> Why doesn't the auth-command work
[03:59] <BluesKaj> so stdin, i'm gonna give "kde4base-dev" another try as per the page : http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php . Any caveats or suggestions ?
[03:59] <bjwebb> is it possible to set a shell script to run when i type a command?
[03:59] <stdin> BluesKaj: if you have any qt4*-kdecopy installed, remove them first
[04:00] <sehe> bjwebb: ? what do you mean, type a command where
[04:00] <bjwebb> sehe: in the terminal
[04:00] <sehe> bjwebb: sure
[04:00] <bjwebb> how
[04:00] <sehe> bjwebb: let's see if I get your question
[04:01] <sehe> bjwebb: you have a script, called 'script.sh'
[04:01] <bjwebb> yeah
[04:01] <stdin> bjwebb: alias command='/path/to/script.sh'
[04:01] <sehe> bjwebb: assuming it's in the current working directory, just say
[04:01] <sehe> bjwebb:  './script.sh'
[04:01] <sehe> bjwebb: (w/o the quotes)
[04:01] <bjwebb> no i wanted what stdin said
[04:01] <sehe> bjwebb: if you want a simpler command, use the alias as mentioned
[04:02] <stdin> bjwebb: that will make the command "command" call the script
[04:02] <bjwebb> yep
[04:02] <sehe> bjwebb: alias HOOLA=/home/bjwebb/script.sh eg
[04:02] <sehe> bjwebb: yep
[04:02] <sehe> bjwebb: or you could link to /usr/bin if you want all users to be able to use the same command (barring filesystem permissions ;)0
[04:03] <sehe> bjwebb: so e.g. ln -s /home/bjwebb/script.sh /usr/bin/command
[04:03] <bjwebb> oh, so alias would of just been for me
[04:03] <BluesKaj> stdin , I copied and pasted qt4*-kdecopy into konq and it doesn't show anythings , as well as trying to remove such files with aptitude, but there weren't any .
[04:03] <sehe> bjwebb: note that this is rather drastic and frowned upon in shared senvironments
[04:03] <stdin> you also pit it in ~/bin
[04:03] <sehe> bjwebb: great
[04:04] <bjwebb> sehe: well its my pc :D
[04:04] <stdin> BluesKaj: ok, go for the install, I'd suggest using aptitude
[04:04] <BluesKaj> right
[04:04] <sehe> bjwebb: you can put the alias in .bashrc or any other shell-init script that comes to mind
[04:04] <waylandbill_> or name the script exactly as the command somewhere in your path.  The .sh doesn't determine how it executes. The interpreter listed after the shebang magic number does.
[04:07] <Fraction> stdin: I found out why my wlan didnt work, had to write "sudo modprobe fsam7400 radio=1", so if someone asks the same question etc :)
[04:08] <anna> Das Nero work on linux?
[04:09] <spiroo> yes
[04:09] <anna> thx
[04:09] <bjwebb> only the linux version tho
[04:09] <spiroo> But K3B is better I can asure you
[04:09] <bjwebb> lol
[04:09] <bjwebb> spiroo: something i was having difficulty with a bit ago was how to easily burn divx to dvd
[04:10] <sehe> spiroo: k3b - better hands down
[04:10] <anna> Well I've got Nero at home because I had it on windows
[04:10] <bjwebb> but Nero for windows won't work on linux
[04:10] <stdin> Fraction: hmm, ok
[04:10] <vistakiller> if ou have the original the nero linux for win
[04:10] <vistakiller> you can download the linux version for free
[04:11] <manchicken_> Why would you use nero when k3b works just fine?
[04:11] <spiroo> *assure
[04:11] <spiroo> Nero is not quite stable in Linux and has not many features. It only include the Nero burn app
[04:11] <spiroo> [16:09]  <spiroo> But K3B is better I can asure you
[04:11] <spiroo> [16:09]  <spiroo> *assure
[04:11] <spiroo> [16:10]  <spiroo> Nero is not quite stable in Linux and has not many features.  Well I'll try to load it and if it doesn't work I think.... well there'll be some way to listen to musik^ ... but thx
[04:12] <sehe> hehehehehehe
[04:12] <spiroo> yea, probably, my bad .P
[04:12] <someguy> hello every1
[04:13] <sehe> hi
[04:13] <anna> *lol* it doesn't
[04:13] <spiroo> lol, do you use Nero to listen to music?
[04:13] <someguy> anyone know if 7.10 will have compiz-fusion?
[04:13] <manchicken_> anna: Do what you gotta do.  We can't support Nero here.
[04:13] <stdin> someguy: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[04:13] <sehe> anna: what doesn't whither?
[04:13] <manchicken_> someguy: Don't know if it made feature freeze or not.
[04:13] <anna> uhm yes listen to music and burn ;)
[04:13] <stdin> manchicken_: neither am I
[04:13] <waylandbill_> anna: k3b and amarok.
[04:13] <manchicken_> someguy: IIRC, 7.10 has a feature freeze in place.
[04:14] <someguy> manchicken, thanks
[04:14] <sehe> anna: k3b? does nero play music then? last time i used it was in 1995 or something
[04:14] <manchicken_> And since people were still talkinga about compiz-fuzion, that leads me to believe no... but I could be wrong.
[04:14] <spiroo> oh okey, I STRONGLY recommend that u install Winamp in Windows and Amarok in Linux
[04:14] <anna> thank's I'm writing it down
[04:14] <sehe> anna: use Amarok, Noatun or somthing ofr playing music
[04:14] <manchicken_> amarok > winamp
[04:14] <spiroo> naa
[04:14] <sehe> anna: And yes you can listen while burning
[04:14] <manchicken_> amarok is the sweetest music player to ever grace the magnetic media of my SATA drive.
[04:15] <spiroo> I prefer winamp, not anything wrong with amarok, but Winamp has better GUI IMO .P
[04:15] <someguy> spiroo, how about vlc for winbloz
[04:15] <spiroo> IMO, VLC sucks
[04:15] <manchicken_> spiroo: You must be crazy :P
[04:15] <sehe> manchicken_: that must be some strange usage of the word 'sweet' that I was previously unaware of :D
[04:15] <anna> uhm do I get all this programms here in germany? *lol*
[04:15] <willempie> hey peoples
[04:15] <spiroo> it has a lot of built-in codecs and so on but GUI and the rest sucks
[04:15] <willempie> me again :-D
[04:15] <manchicken_> sehe: Stick around, I'll be here all week.
[04:15] <willempie> Ever grateful as usual
[04:15] <sehe> anna: yes, it's all standard ubuntu stuff( kubuntu really for Amarok)
[04:16] <spiroo> manchicken: Yea i feel carzy sometimes :D
[04:16] <someguy> spiroo, lol don't care its a great app.  winamp is an aol.com product. lol
[04:16] <manchicken_> spiroo: They have pills for that.  My sister assures me the work quite well.
[04:16] <sehe> manchicken_: i might be off for some work tho
[04:16] <anna> well ok
[04:16] <willempie> anyhoo... I have a question, tried the mplayer channel, but they sent me here :-S
[04:16] <anna> Tanks
[04:16] <anna> Thanks
[04:16] <spiroo> manchicken: I hope that was ironic, or else I guess I am not the crazy one
[04:17] <sehe> sehe: good to see you'r a pacifist after all
[04:17] <willempie> ...and yes: it's all about divx, of course
[04:17] <manchicken_> I need to get this stupid dazuko kernel module loading.
[04:17] <sehe> manchicken_: what's it do then?
[04:17] <sehe> manchicken_: that doesn't sound to pacifist to me :D
[04:17] <manchicken_> sehe: dazuko is a kernel module that does virus scanning.
[04:18] <voln> what is the good jabber client for kubuntu?
[04:18] <spiroo> why virus scan in linux?
[04:18] <manchicken_> sehe: I'm making a backup server for my dad, so I want to be able to have it scan his backups from win32 machines.
[04:18] <sehe> spiroo: because you don't want to destroy your data
[04:18] <willempie> ...I'm trying to play divx in a standalone mplayer (got it working in firefox), but I get an output device error. The guys in the mplayer channel told me to use mplayer -vf scale file.avi, which mqde it work
[04:18] <spiroo> ah, I see ;P Never mind then :P
[04:18] <willempie> *made
[04:18] <sehe> manchicken_: wht do you need complicated ACL support for that?
[04:18] <anna> and one, lilittle, second thing: How to change the server...  Is this something for this chan, too or is there another chan for that?
[04:19] <waylandbill_> voin: kopete and gaim both do jabber.
[04:19] <manchicken_> spiroo: I'm virus scanning in gnu/linux to pick up what win32 missed before backing up to this backup server.
[04:19] <Blauhaut> hiya all
[04:19] <Blauhaut> :()
[04:19] <willempie> ...but I dont want to use the terminal every time I want to play a divx file
[04:19] <voln> waylandbill_what about psi?
[04:19] <Blauhaut> Guys how can i see my ip adress ?
[04:19] <sehe> spiroo: ok there are few linux viruses, but with ubuntu popularity... you never know. and, worms are pretty much a UNIX invention :)
[04:19] <spiroo> manchicken: Fully understandable from my side. You cannot be sure for Windows
[04:19] <willempie> So they told me to edit the /.mplayer/config file
[04:19] <sehe> manchicken_: welcome back :D
[04:19] <spiroo> How about Kubuntu?
[04:19] <willempie> add a line called: vm=scale
[04:19] <manchicken_> That way if we have to restore from backup, it's less likely we'll be restoring malware.
[04:20] <willempie> and save it
[04:20] <willempie> didn't solve it
[04:20] <spiroo> I mean sehe: What about virus in Kubuntu then?
[04:20] <manchicken_> My sister just got nailed by a doosey of a virus that PGP encrypted several of her files and demanded money for the ability to decrypt them.
[04:20] <stdin> willempie: add it to ~/.mplayer/gui.conf too
[04:20] <manchicken_> This network sucks right now.
[04:20] <willempie> thx
[04:20] <waylandbill_> voln: I just mentioned the two that come in kubuntu and ubuntu. There are of course others.
[04:20] <sehe> spiroo: like I said: no system is immune, and you can either wait till one is made and be sorry, or be smart
[04:20] <spiroo> It is almost impossible to create viruses in Linux, unless the user itself start one in for example a binary file .bin
[04:21] <manchicken_> *lag test*
[04:21] <sehe> spiroo: *or trust your backups* (that's my strategy. i never bothered with virusscanning even on 15years+ windows)
[04:21] <spiroo> sehe: Yes, I understand that very well. Got my harddrive blown away by a virus before. It scarmbled all my data on harddrive.
[04:21] <willempie> stdin: cant seem to add a line there??
[04:21] <stdin> willempie: why?
[04:21] <willempie> it gives a *ping*
[04:22] <avraham> hey everybody
[04:22] <sehe> I only had a virus once, and it was easy for me to get rid of. Spyware on the other hand... I used Spybot sarch and destory quite a lot
[04:22] <stdin> willempie: what gives a "*ping*"
[04:22] <manchicken_> Man... this stinks.
[04:22] <joseph> im new to ubuntu....wats the best irc chat client to use....im using konversation
[04:22] <spiroo> sehe: Use Norton even if it loads power as hell, It does the job.
[04:22] <avraham> somebody can help me please??
[04:22] <willempie> well, i used the following commands in terminal:
[04:22] <stdin> !best | joseph
[04:22] <ubotu> joseph: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:22] <manchicken_> willempie: Thanks.
[04:22] <spiroo> In windows of course, in linux I dont know
[04:22] <manchicken_> err, nevermind.
[04:22] <willempie> stdin: touch gui.conf and next vi gui.conf
[04:22] <manchicken_> This lag really makes things much more difficult.
[04:22] <avraham> i have ubuntu and kde installed on it
[04:22] <sehe> spiroo: like i said, i prefer common sense over a virus scanner. Never used one (licenses + performance headaches)
[04:23] <joseph> ok tell me wat chat client u guys are using and dont u dare say mirc
[04:23] <manchicken_> That's a little better.
[04:23] <stdin> willempie: gui.conf should already be there.... and your using vi ???
[04:23] <sehe> konversation
[04:23] <manchicken_> joseph: konvi, of course
[04:23] <vgcat> hey
[04:23] <sehe> there is ksirc, kvirc as well
[04:23] <joseph> i installed conversation and only one network showed up which is this one
[04:23] <willempie> stdin: you're right, its there already, and yes, I use vi
[04:23] <manchicken_> joseph: You can add more :)
[04:23] <joseph> wat ever happened to dalnet and p2pchat
[04:23] <spiroo> I use: Konversation. The IRC app has that name
[04:23] <avraham> i have ubuntu with kde.....i have just installed beryl and it doesn't work !
[04:23] <avraham> what can i do
[04:23] <avraham> ?
[04:23] <manchicken_> joseph: You add the networks you want.
[04:24] <jhutchins> joseph: You are free to add any network you like in konversation.
[04:24] <joseph> doesnt that mean u have to know th enetworks?
[04:24] <manchicken_> joseph: It's really not too tricky.
[04:24] <stdin> willempie: may god have mercy on your soul
[04:24] <manchicken_> joseph: You should only chat on networks that you know.
[04:24] <vgcat> I have aproblem whit my grafic card (ATI RADEON 9200 SE), on Ubuntu 7.04! Please someone can help me?
[04:24] <willempie> stdin: lol
[04:24] <spiroo> avraham: It is called Kubuntu ;P
[04:24] <joseph> lol
[04:24] <jhutchins> !ati | vgcat
[04:24] <ubotu> vgcat: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:24] <spiroo> vgcat: what problem?
[04:24] <willempie> stdin: (ultran00bmode is still on, switch broke off)
[04:24] <joseph> does anyone know wat network that #morpheeus chatroom is in?
[04:24] <manchicken_> Can't say as though I do.
[04:25] <vgcat> i tried to install the original drivers
[04:25] <vgcat> whit easybuntu
[04:25] <manchicken_> You could google it and see if there's anything about it there.
[04:25] <vgcat> to get 3d acceleration
[04:25] <sehe> avraham: scout the forums
[04:25] <manchicken_> vgcat: What exactly is the problem?
[04:25] <joseph> thanx for the help peeps
[04:25] <vgcat> doesent work now the openGL eighter
[04:25] <willempie> stdin: any ideas?? Should I use another program?
[04:25] <spiroo> I think Kubuntu has build-in drivers. Not sure but I guess. BTW, is there anyway to use ATI CATALYST Center in Linux?
[04:25] <stdin> willempie: I like nano :)
[04:26] <joseph> gotta love virtual machines
[04:26] <vgcat> and i want to get 3d acceleration
[04:26] <spiroo> nano powns ;P
[04:26] <manchicken_> vgcat: Did you reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[04:26] <manchicken_> stdin: And nano likes you.
[04:26] <willempie> stdin: well, I am a first time user, so everything is new for me
[04:26] <joseph> how do i play windows games in ubuntu with wine.....i tried but graphics so slow
[04:26] <vgcat> no
[04:26] <stdin> willempie: vim is not the most "user friendly" app
[04:26] <spiroo> 3d acceleration is in restricted manager. Or I mean restricted reposotories
[04:27] <manchicken_> vgcat: Well you'll need to do that.
[04:27] <sehe> joseph: go over to winehq.com for forums
[04:27] <vgcat> i just used easyubuntu to install the drivers
[04:27] <stdin> willempie: nano ~/.mplayer/gui.conf
[04:27] <vgcat> and what to do manchicken
[04:27] <manchicken_> vgcat: easyubuntu is not an officially supported Ubuntu program, IIRC.
[04:27] <sehe> joseph: could be wine-hq.com actually
[04:27] <capcom> one little question: i had an accident using vnc. i used a hotkey for the client, ctrl+alt+f12, but the remote machine reacted on that and switched to runlevel 12 (i guess it's called runlevel 12). how can i return to runlevel 7 where my kde session is running? i have an existing ssh connection that allows me to enter console commands
[04:27] <willempie> stdin: I'll try it right away
[04:27] <manchicken_> vgcat: in a terminal, `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`
[04:27] <sehe> capcom: it's called a virtual console
[04:28] <spiroo> and follow each step, if not sure, just press enter for default value i think :P
[04:28] <manchicken_> capcom: There's no such thing as runlevel 7... are you sure you don't mean virtual terminal 7?
[04:28] <willempie> stdin: looks similar ;-) Anyway: I can just add the line where ever I want??
[04:28] <stdin> capcom: ctrl-alt-f12 would switch to tty12, alt-f7 should bring you back
[04:28] <spiroo> Is there ATI Catalyst Center in Linux?
[04:28] <sehe> capcom: I would suggest that you should be able to use ctl-alt-f7, but you may try alt-left 5 times to get the effect
[04:28] <vgcat> manchicken im in!
[04:28] <vgcat> tell me what to do
[04:28] <manchicken_> vgcat: Then continue configuring your xserver.
[04:28] <manchicken_> Just answer the questions.
[04:28] <stdin> willempie: yeah, just add the line, press Ctrl-o to save and Ctrl-x to exit
[04:28] <vgcat> ??
[04:28] <capcom> stdin: yes i tried this but this triggern another client function and does not pass to the remote system. i need a console command
[04:29] <manchicken_> Use the "Simple" options when possible.
[04:29] <spiroo> first step in xserver-xorg switch from VESA to ATI
[04:29] <vgcat> Configuring xserver-xorg
[04:29] <vgcat>   For the X Window System graphical user interface to operate correctly,
[04:29] <vgcat>   it is necessary to select a video card driver for the X server.
[04:29] <vgcat>
[04:29] <vgcat>   Drivers are typically named for the video card or chipset manufacturer,
[04:29] <vgcat>   or for a specific model or family of chipsets.
[04:29] <manchicken_> vgcat: Those configs are going to be very specific to your hardware.  There's no way that I could possiby figure that out for you.
[04:29] <sehe> capcom: does alt-left work?
[04:29] <vgcat>  X server driver:
[04:29] <vgcat>
[04:29] <spiroo> vgcat: do not paste that code here please. Use pastebin.org
[04:29] <vgcat>                                sisusb
[04:29] <capcom> sehe: i'll try this, please wait a moment
[04:29] <vgcat>                                tdfx
[04:29] <vgcat>                                tga
[04:29] <vgcat>                                trident
[04:29] <vgcat>                                tseng
[04:29] <vgcat>                                vesa
[04:29] <vgcat>
[04:29] <manchicken_> vgcat: Stop pasting that here please.
[04:29] <Zorix> im having the exact same problem as this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/96565 any suggestions?
[04:29] <sehe> capcom: btw, you could try to just reconnect vnc client
[04:29] <stdin> !paste | vgcat
[04:29] <ubotu> vgcat: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:29] <manchicken_> !paste | vgcat
[04:30] <vgcat> K I UNDERSTAN!
[04:30] <capcom> sehe: reconnecting does not work, i have a black screen then
[04:30] <sehe> capcom: i've never seen vnc show virtual consoles....
[04:30] <spiroo> lol
[04:30] <vgcat> manchitchken
[04:30] <vgcat> what i supsed to do now?
[04:30] <spiroo> vgcat, browse with arrows up and down and press enter when it is done
[04:30] <vgcat> what to select?
[04:30] <manchicken_> vgcat: Just answer the questions using your keyboard to navigate the UI.
[04:31] <spiroo> if you are on first step switch from VESA to ATI
[04:31] <vgcat> k
[04:31] <vgcat> done
[04:31] <sehe> capcom: i'm afraid nothing else is there except whe you have physical access to the vnc server :0
[04:31] <spiroo> then go down and press enter
[04:31] <manchicken_> vgcat: TAB switches field focus, up/down/left/right changes selections, and enter submits the current screen.
[04:31] <vgcat> i selected ati
[04:31] <vgcat> and pressed enter
[04:32] <sehe> capcom: could it not be screen savers? you could use the ssh session to check
[04:32] <spiroo> yes, press tab or right/left arrows and go to OK button and press enter
[04:32] <stdin> capcom: try "chvt 7"
[04:32] <vgcat> ?!
[04:32] <vgcat> I dont understand
[04:32] <vgcat> i sellected ati and pressed enter
[04:32] <vgcat> now im a menu
[04:32] <sehe> stdin: brilliant, that's a new one for me, thx
[04:32] <vgcat>  The X server configuration file associates your video card with a name
[04:32] <spiroo> please anyone, I have not time to explain how to navigate in Xserver-Xog
[04:32] <vgcat>   that you may provide.  This is usually the vendor or brand name followed
[04:32] <stdin> sehe: man -k vt :)
[04:32] <vgcat>   by the model name, e.g., "Intel i915", "ATI RADEON X800", or "NVIDIA
[04:32] <vgcat>   GeForce 6600".
[04:32] <vgcat>
[04:32] <vgcat>   Identifier for your video card:
[04:32] <vgcat>
[04:32] <vgcat>   Generic Video Card____
[04:32] <vgcat> srry for code:(
[04:33] <Karti> Hi all, just a quick one - can I tar within  a tar?
[04:33] <sehe> capcom: should be sudo chvt 7 perhaps
[04:33] <spiroo> Karti: yes
[04:33] <stdin> Karti: you can, if you want
[04:33] <vgcat> please help me
[04:33] <sehe> Karti: yep
[04:33] <spiroo> tar zxvf tarfilename (path), for example with unpack it to home
[04:33] <Karti> Just thinking of my backups and how I would like to tar the folders to keep space down before I transfer to CDROM
[04:34] <capcom> sehe: this works, thank you!
[04:34] <manchicken_> vgcat: As I said, that configuration will be very specific to your hardware.  We don't know what your hardware is.
[04:34] <willempie> stdin: thx, edited and saved them both, but still get the same error
[04:34] <sehe> capcom: stdin: tahnk stdin, np
[04:34] <vgcat> ATI RADEON 9200 SE
[04:34] <manchicken_> vgcat: If the thing gives you a default answer in a box like that, just hit enter.
[04:34] <spiroo> Karti, btw how do you backup? I need to get help with backup a partition to DVD
[04:34] <stdin> willempie: post your gui.conf to pastebin, I'll compare it to mine
[04:34] <vgcat> omg
[04:35] <manchicken_> vgcat: What?
[04:35] <vgcat> in that box i writed ATI RADEON 9200 SE
[04:35] <vgcat> :(
[04:35] <willempie> ok, one sec
[04:35] <manchicken_> vgcat: It doesn't matter, that is just an arbitrary identifier string.
[04:35] <sehe> spiroo: Karti: the battle of the backup pioneers :) sorry couldn't resist quipping on that
[04:35] <Karti> spiroo: I'm just learning. I currently use a script, that has been amended with the help of people like sehe and Level15
[04:35] <spiroo> How do I do private chat with someone, how to register?
[04:35] <vgcat> but now it gives me a long mesege
[04:35] <sehe> spiroo: good question i'd like to know that myseld
[04:35] <vgcat>  Users of PowerPC machines, and users of any computer with multiple video
[04:35] <sehe> spiroo: good question i'd like to know that myself
[04:35] <pag> !register | spiroo
[04:35] <ubotu> spiroo: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:36] <vgcat>   devices, should specify the BusID of the video card in an accepted
[04:36] <sehe> ah great
[04:36] <vgcat>   bus-specific format.
[04:36] <vgcat>
[04:36] <Karti> sehe: lol and there was me giving you some publicity!
[04:36] <manchicken_> vgcat: PASTEBIN THIS STUFF!
[04:36] <sehe> !register | sehe
[04:36] <vgcat>   Examples:
[04:36] <vgcat>
[04:36] <vgcat>    ISA:1
[04:36] <manchicken_> vgcat: STOP pasting in the channel please.
[04:36] <vgcat>    PCI:0:16:0
[04:36] <spiroo> thank you stdin
[04:36] <runlevelten> vgcat: Not again..
[04:36] <vgcat>    SBUS:/iommu@0,10000000/sbus@0,10001000/SUNW,tcx@2,800000
[04:36] <stdin> vgcat: stop flooding the channel
[04:36] <vgcat>
[04:36] <Karti> ;) not forhetting stdin:
[04:36] <vgcat>
[04:36] <vgcat>   For users of multi-head setups, this option will configure only one of
[04:36] <vgcat>   the heads.  Further configuration will have to be done manually in the X
[04:36] <sehe> Karti: heyhoo and welcome back
[04:36] <vgcat>   server configuration file, /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[04:37] <vgcat>  You may wish to use the "lspci" command to determine the bus location of
[04:37] (vgcat/#kubuntu)   your PCI, AGP, or PCI-Express video card.
[04:37] (vgcat/#kubuntu)
[04:37] <spiroo> omg, vgchat, stop typing damn it
[04:37] <manchicken_> Wow.
[04:37] <Karti> sehe: thanks and to you....
[04:37] (vgcat/#kubuntu)   When possible, this question has been pre-answered for you and you
[04:37] (vgcat/#kubuntu)   should accept the default unless you know it doesn't work.
[04:37] (vgcat/#kubuntu) ?
[04:37] (vgcat/#kubuntu) :( OMG
[04:37] (vgcat/#kubuntu) i think i whill get banned:((
[04:37] (vgcat/#kubuntu) i just want help
[04:37] (vgcat/#kubuntu) :(
[04:37] <spiroo> not so many lines after each other
[04:37] <manchicken_> vWow, that's got a little bit of lag
[04:37] <spiroo> vgcat: You do not get helped faster by typing like that
[04:37] <vgcat> i got kicked:(
[04:37] <stdin> vgcat: use the pastebin site
[04:37] <vgcat> :(
[04:37] <manchicken_> vgcat: Yeah, you don't paste in the main channel.
[04:38] <manchicken_> vgcat: You use the pastebin.
[04:38] <vgcat> AWWW
[04:38] <vgcat> give me that
[04:38] <spiroo> Karti: Which backup tools do you use?
[04:38] <Zorix> netgear ma401 sucks on latest ubuntu
[04:38] <spiroo> !pastebin
[04:38] <vgcat> ati sux
[04:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:38] <Zorix> dont use ati in linux
[04:38] <spiroo> nvidia ftw
[04:39] <Zorix> dont even waste your time with ati in linux
[04:39] <Karti> spiroo: I just use tar and gz within a script. That is then run either by using the script or by using Kcron after midnight
[04:39] <vgcat> what is the sintax?
[04:39] <stdin> vgcat: instead of pasting here, you paste in that website and post the URL here
[04:39] <Karti> spiroo: then I transfer it all to cd every two weeks
[04:40] <spiroo> Karti: Please, could u show me. I really want to know how. I wanna create ISOs and with Cron backup or Konserve
[04:40] <sehe> vgcat: there is none, just go the website
[04:40] <vgcat> k
[04:40] <sehe> vgcat: paste a *link* to the result back in irc
[04:40] <sehe> !register | sehe
[04:40] <Karti> I can show you the script that people helped me write, but it does not burn to cd rather it saves to a separate usb drive or network drive
[04:40] <Blauhaut> is there a way to connect on remote server ?
[04:41] <Blauhaut> i have 2 comp so i want to make a connection with them by using internet
[04:41] <willempie> stdin: when I save the file and reopen it, the line is still there. But when I exit and start mplayer, still get the error. When I nano the file again, the line is gone
[04:41] <spiroo> okay, I just need the code to create ISOs/tars of an whole partition. The buring I could do myself, lol.
[04:41] <vgcat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34304/ <--- here i pasted
[04:41] <spiroo> Karti: I also want to split data in different ISOs/tar so they fit 4.4 GB DVD
[04:42] <spiroo> if you know what I mean
[04:42] <sehe> spiroo: tar xjvp / | mkisofs (man mkisofs if you need)
[04:42] <sehe> spiroo: google multivolume tar iso
[04:42] <spiroo> sehe: how to select partition then?
[04:43] <Karti> spiroo: Here is the code I use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34305/
[04:43] <stdin> willempie: try putting it like: vm = "scale"
[04:43] <vgcat> HELP:(((((
[04:43] <vgcat> ME
[04:43] <vgcat> PLZ
[04:43] <stdin> willempie: with the spaces and quoting
[04:43] <vgcat> :(
[04:43] <Karti> spiroo: But to backup my partitions I used Acronis or Ghost
[04:44] <spiroo> Karti: Thank you very much for the Cron code
[04:44] <spiroo> Karti: Acronis/Ghost is Windows applications
[04:44] <sehe> spiroo: use the mount point instead of /. there are options to tar (man tar) to restrict to a filesystem
[04:44] <vgcat> People
[04:44] <spiroo> okay, I will
[04:44] <vgcat> Do you hear me?
[04:44] <vgcat> Lol
[04:44] <spiroo> no
[04:45] <Karti> spiroo: If you use cron, play about in the terminal with "crontab -e" and crontab -u <your name here> -l
[04:45] <sehe> spiroo: i think in e2fstools there is something to 'cat' a partition to a plain file as well (ntfsclone for ntfs)
[04:45] <manchicken_> vgcat: Yeah, just hit enter there.
[04:45] <manchicken_> And then hit enter on the next screen.
[04:45] <manchicken_> vgcat: You really should read the WHOLE screen before asking questions though.
[04:45] <manchicken_> Because that same answer is actually printed on the screen.
[04:45] <vgcat> ho have a ati radeon 9200 se grafic card?
[04:45] <spiroo> sehe: e2fstools?
[04:45] <vgcat> ho have a ati radeon 9200 se grafic card?
[04:46] <spiroo> Why, why should it be so complicae to just backup simple data
[04:46] <sehe> spiroo: e2fsprogs :)
[04:46] <Karti> spiroo: its easier to do so once you have created your cron using Kcron
[04:46] <anna> no IRC-command works. Why
[04:46] <spiroo> Just wanna create splitted partition data into several ISOs comprimized as much as posible
[04:46] <fernando> hello, hola, ciao, bonjours...
[04:46] <sehe> spiroo: uhm cron adds a level of complexity in essence :0
[04:46] <Karti> spiroo: its actually quite simple *looks at sehe*
[04:46] <Karti> when you know how!
[04:47] <spiroo> Karti: haha okay
[04:47] <vgcat> ho have a ati radeon 9200 se grafic card?
[04:47] <spiroo> yes it always is
[04:47] <spiroo> Karti: Yes, it always is
[04:47] <sehe> Karti: nothing becomes simpler once you have it in a cron , c my point?
[04:47] <fernando> someone from Barcelona????
[04:47] <sehe> Karti: it stays at least as complex
[04:47] <spiroo> sehe: Yea, but the problem is to create a cronjob
[04:47] <Karti> :) no issues there!
[04:48] <latino390> kann mir jemand helfen?
[04:48] <anna> kannst du kein englisch?
[04:48] <sehe> sehe: gnome-scheduler, Kcron, crontab -e
[04:48] <sehe> !cron
[04:48] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[04:48] <stdin> !es | fernando
[04:48] <ubotu> fernando: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:48] <latino390> ich mchte gerne die examples lschen!
[04:48] <spiroo> or cron file maybe it is. I am not familiar with cron yet. Would be perfect to llearn, could use it in my webbapps
[04:48] <pag> !de | latino390
[04:48] <ubotu> latino390: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:49] <anna> ich bin selber noob *lol* helfen kann ihc nicht aber meinet wegen bersetzen wenn du kein englisch kannst^
[04:49] <stdin> !en | anna
[04:49] <ubotu> anna: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[04:49] <stdin> :p
[04:49] <Karti> thanks to sehe I now run my backups every two days to a folder on a usb drive. I will later on today be adding that every week it backs up to my network drive
[04:49] <spiroo> please speak english :) Not against germans but I hate the germany language
[04:50] <sehe> spiroo: tar create verbose multi-volume tape-length=685000 file=databackup.tar /DATA
[04:50] <anna> Sorry I just told the other one that I can translate for hin if he doesn't speak englsih
[04:50] <sehe> spiroo: google 'tar multivolume iso' is your friend
[04:50] <spiroo> ah okay. Thats a nice gesture
[04:50] <stdin> there is a very active german channel, he'll be fine
[04:50] <anna> ok
[04:50] <anna> :-)
[04:51] <spiroo> sehe: okay, I want from /dev/sda7 to and iso on the desktop. What would the code be. Sorry but I do not understand how to type
[04:51] <spiroo> *and = an
[04:52] <willempie> stdin: I've added the line, including quotes and spaces, saved it, reopened it and the line was still there. So now I'm gonna test it again. lets see what happenes
[04:52] <stdin> ok
[04:53] <spiroo> sehe: ?
[04:53] <willempie> stdin: well, same error message, and the line is gone again
[04:53] <stdin> hmm
[04:53] <willempie> I've added the exact same line to the config file
[04:53] <spiroo> stdin, do you work on this channel?
[04:53] <willempie> lol
[04:53] <spiroo> I mean, do you get payed for it?
[04:54] <willempie> must be a full time job :D
[04:54] <stdin> I don't get paid, no
[04:54] <willempie> ...I guess he's paid in gratitude
[04:54] <willempie> ...or she.
[04:54] <spiroo> Okay, sorry just wondered, seems like you switch shifts
[04:54] <spiroo> lol
[04:54] <willempie> ...he it is
[04:55] <spiroo> anyway, sehe: how to type to backup from /dev/sda7 to an ISO/tar on the desktop?
[04:55] <willempie> stdin: odd, isn't it?
[04:55] <dewitt> when i go to adept updates, it says i have adept or part of it open, how do i close what i can't see
[04:55] <willempie> dewitt: do you have the terminal open??
[04:55] <spiroo> Close all instances of adept. Terminal, updater, installer everything
[04:55] <dewitt> no
[04:56] <willempie> hit ctrl + esc
[04:56] <spiroo> You have to be sure just one app uses adept
[04:56] <willempie> see if you find any lines that spiro says in there
[04:56] <willempie> ...and terminate them
[04:56] <pag> !aptfix | dewitt
[04:56] <ubotu> dewitt: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:57] <dewitt> adept nofifier
[04:57] <willempie> kill it
[04:57] <willempie> ...with a shotgun
[04:58] <dewitt> ok
[04:58] <dewitt> killed
[04:58] <willempie> now try again
[04:58] <sehe> spiroo: hello back
[04:58] <willempie> and if that doesn't work, try
[04:59] <willempie> !aptfix | dewitt
[04:59] <ubotu> dewitt: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:59] <anna> What's the german channel?
[04:59] <pag> anna, #kubuntu-de ?
[04:59] <sehe> for tar to work /dev/sda7 must be mounted
[04:59] <anna> thx
[04:59] <sehe> issue 'mount' to find out where it is mounted
[05:00] <sehe> spiroo: ^^
[05:00] <stdin> willempie: it sticks here, I put 'vf = "scale"' at the bottom and played a file, then checked gui.conf again and it was there
[05:00] <sehe> spiroo: for tar to work /dev/sda7 must be mounted
[05:00] <sehe> spiroo: issue 'mount' to find out where it is mounted
[05:00] <sehe> spiroo: (and get a better internet link hahahahaha_
[05:00] <willempie> stdin: thx for trying. must have sth to do with the errormessage. Oddly it works fine if I just use the command in terminal
[05:02] <BluesKaj> well stdin I followed the instructions (all except for the xserver-xephyr stuff, which i skipped) and edited the /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop as the last paragraph instructs but no sign of kde4 as an option at the login scrn
[05:03] <stdin> BluesKaj: you need to move the file to /usr/share/xsessions too, I think it says that on the instructions
[05:03] <BluesKaj> yes stdin I did
[05:03] <BluesKaj> copied and pasted it
[05:04] <stdin> BluesKaj: maybe you need to restart kdm too...?
[05:04] <stdin> not sure, but try it
[05:04] <dewitt> guess if did it wrong still saying i can't change anything
[05:05] <sehe> k peeps, dinner time cya around
[05:06] <sehe> spiroo: otoh, split -b 650000000 tarfile.tar
[05:08] <sehe> spiroo: cat x* > tarfile.tar to reassemble | spiroo
[05:09] <willempie> stdin: things get weirder every second :-) When I use terminal and the mplayer test.divx, it works fine. But when I right click on the file and select open with > mplayer, it gives the fatal error
[05:10] <stdin> well that's odd :p
[05:10] <stdin> I tend to use the terminal anyway, so I don't know the gui well
[05:10] <willempie> ok, no problem
[05:10] <willempie> thanks a lot anyway
[05:11] <sehe> spiroo: didn't actually know mplayer *has* a gui :#
[05:11] <sehe> stdin: didn't actually know mplayer *has* a gui :#^^
[05:11] <stdin> sehe: mplayer -gui
[05:11] <sehe> stdin: brillant. learning veryday
[05:11] <stdin> it seems a bit uop-psdn to me
[05:11] <sehe> haha
[05:12] <sehe> cli freak here, admittedly
[05:12] <savetheWorld> stdin: how did you do that?  and what clients does it affect?
[05:13] <stdin> savetheWorld: it's unicode
[05:13] <stdin> I got ubotu to do it for me tho
[05:13] <savetheWorld> heh, cute :)
[05:13] <BluesKaj> stdin, i found the /usr/lib/kde4/bin file and managed to launch plasma at least :)
[05:13] <sehe> spiroo: Karti: even nicer: find .... | afio -o -b 2048 -s325000x -v '!cdrecord .... -'
[05:13] <stdin> savetheWorld:  /msg ubotu @flip message here
[05:14] <savetheWorld> I didnt even know unicode had upside down fonts defined.
[05:14] <stdin> BluesKaj: I had less trouble, but I run gutsy and it had to be backported to feisty
[05:15] <BluesKaj> I see , well I"m trying the exec files
[05:15] <sehe> spiroo__: Karti: even nicer: find .... | afio -o -b 2048 -s325000x -v '!cdrecord .... -'
[05:16] <Karti> sehe: It looks nice! all I need to do now is decode it!
[05:16] <stdin> BluesKaj: there are env vars you export to add the libs and bin dir to your path, then run the normal commands in konsole
[05:17] <sehe> Karti: ok man afio methinks
[05:18] <BluesKaj> i found the deb files and used the install option but i got errors , so I guess it's not for me ... no biggie tho
[05:18] <sehe> spiroo__: Karti: btw http://justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80776, second hit in google :D
[05:18] <sehe> i don't make all that stff up you know
[05:18] <sehe> i have to run
[05:18] <sehe> cya all
[05:23] <spiroo__> sehe: No of course youre not ;P
[05:29] <willempie> Solved alllll my divx issues
[05:30] <willempie> thanks everyone for helping me out
[05:31] <willempie> stdin: the thing was appearantly: by rightclicking it didn't actually started mplayer, but gmplayer. Changed this: problem solved! Thanks for all the help
[05:31] <stdin> heh, silly gmplayer
[05:47] <zecke1989> kan mir mal schnell wer helfen ich habe eine kleine .exe und mcht gehrne ihren queltext sehen wie mach ich das den am bessten?
[05:48] <stdin> !de | zecke1989
[05:48] <ubotu> zecke1989: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:48] <zecke1989> danke
[05:50] <BluesKaj> stdin, perhaps when kde4 is out of beta and ready for primetime it might work on my setup , but until then I'll stick with 3.5.7 :)
[05:51] <stdin> BluesKaj: well, it's not really meant to be used quite yet anyway
[05:57] <s1r4t> how can you create a shortcut to open a terminal and auto enter a command?
[05:57] <BluesKaj> stdin, will they build an installer like the *deb  files have,  or will be a kubuntu-desktop upgrade ?
[05:58] <stdin> BluesKaj: it won't be part of kubuntu-desktop, but there probably will be a meta-package to install it
[05:59] <BluesKaj> ok right , makes sense
[06:00] <uatever> hey
[06:01] <uatever> I'm having some problems with connection can someone help me please?
[06:01] <uatever> some softwares are having issues
[06:01] <uatever> like kopete and konversation
[06:01] <uatever> and firefox
[06:01] <uatever> ends up working but takes alot of time to connect dunno why
[06:06] <stdin> uatever: try following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[06:06] <uatever> will do
[06:07] <uatever> its going to take some time to load I guess
[06:13] <jonathan_> is there a restricted drivers section on kubuntu?
[06:15] <stdin> jonathan_: you mean application?
[06:16] <jonathan_> stdin: yeah
[06:17] <stdin> jonathan_: no, not in feisty
[06:17] <jonathan_> stdin: damn... back to gnome then :D
[06:17] <jonathan_> thanks!
[06:17] <stdin> the Edgy instructions work tho
[06:18] <stdin> aka, the manual way
[06:19] <Karti> Hi again, having trouble mounting my network drive in fstab. Did it before my system crashed. I can create and log in using remote places but I want to start the link on boot. Any pointers please?
[06:29] <uatever> hey I'm having troubles connection to msn and irc, as browsing on the web, it ends up working (just not msn) but takes alot of time and trys
[06:29] <uatever> can someone help me?
[06:29] <jonathan_> Hey im getting this problem that says my IO-Apic + Timer does not work or something like that when i try to install any 32 bit distro... whats with that?
[06:30] <nosrednaekim> jonathan_: and it fails?
[06:30] <nosrednaekim> no can give it the boot option "noapic"
[06:30] <leyla> hello
[06:31] <nosrednaekim> *you
[06:31] <leyla> i m leyla
[06:31] <nosrednaekim> hello.....
[06:31] <leyla> i m from turkey
[06:31] <leyla> hello..
[06:31] <leyla> and u
[06:31] <leyla> ?
[06:33] <leyla> is there anybody to talk to me?
[06:33] <leyla> nosrednaekim are u there?
[06:34] <jonathan_> nosrednaekim: i would assume it fails since it wouldnt let me get into the live cd, it said i should boot without the option...i have no idea what its about...
[06:37] <leyla> aziz what is up?
[06:37] <aziz> leyla: i'm fine. are you from turkey?
[06:38] <leyla> yes
[06:38] <leyla> u?
[06:38] <aziz> no, but I have Turkish parents
[06:39] <leyla> then where are u from?
[06:39] <aziz> Austria
[06:40] <leyla> do you speak turkish?
[06:40] <aziz> which part of Turkey are you from?
[06:40] <leyla> istanbul
[06:40] <aziz> yes, but I can't express very complicated sentences...
[06:41] <aziz> great, a lady from Istanbul using Linux. how come? :)
[06:41] <leyla> my uncle has installed it:)
[06:42] <aziz> cool, it's time Linux took over the world :D
[06:42] <leyla> yep
[06:42] <leyla> :)
[06:43] <leyla> old?
[06:43] <aziz> have you had experience with Windows only, or are you new to PCs altogether?
[06:44] <leyla> yep i used windovs
[06:45] <leyla> and im havent got uesd to this
[06:45] <leyla> used
[06:45] <aziz> i'd like to message you in private, but only registered users can do this. unfortunately, i've forgotten my password..
[06:46] <jonathan_> Hey im getting this problem that says my IO-Apic + Timer does not work or something like that when i try to install any 32 bit distro... whats with that?
[06:46] <leyla> how old are you aziz?
[06:47] <aziz> leyla: join the channel #aziz
[07:01] <Sm3bdy> [Help]  I broke my ATI DRIVERS whit Easybuntu for a grafic card (ati radeon 9200 se). I have ubuntu 7.04, please help me fix it. I want the 3d accelerator working!
[07:03] <Materials> I was told that is a seven year trip between california and utah
[07:07] <douby> :)
[07:15] <nosrednaekim> :)
[07:15] <nosrednaekim> he left...
[07:15] <illriginal> Anyone know what I should use to back up my Ubuntu (not KDE)?
[07:16] <nosrednaekim> illriginal: your data or your install?
[07:16] <nosrednaekim> !backup
[07:16] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[07:16] <illriginal> my whole system basically, i wanna do an update but im scared it's gonna phail.
[07:17] <illriginal> nosrednaekim,  I'm using Simple Back Up... but it does not save the back up...
[07:17] <illriginal> nosrednaekim,  does it take a while to back up a whole system?
[07:17] <nosrednaekim> probably..
[07:18] <illriginal> nosrednaekim,  is there a program that tells you it's process/percentage when it backs up the files?
[07:18] <nosrednaekim> IDK... foolw those links
[07:18] <nosrednaekim> *follow
[07:20] <arun> um i just compressed a mp4 video file to tar.gz
[07:21] <arun> it was originally 721MB. it was compressed to 1.2MB.
[07:21] <arun> how can that be?
[07:21] <steveire> arun:
[07:21] <steveire> decompress and see if it's really there.
[07:21] <arun> steveire: its there
[07:21] <Assid> arun:  wayyy too much compression
[07:21] <Assid> not really possible
[07:21] <steveire> arun: Ona another computer?
[07:22] <arun> Assid: i'm not kidding, i can show you a screenshot of the file sizes
[07:22] <Assid> mp4  is already a compressed format
[07:22] <Assid> arun: is the video sensitive material ?
[07:22] <arun> sensitive?
[07:22] <Assid> yeah.. like do you have a problem sharing it?
[07:22] <Assid> cause this .. i gotta see
[07:23] <arun> ahhh
[07:23] <Assid> do you know if thats true.. 1/2 the bandwith used on the internet would just free up
[07:23] <arun> i just closed konqueror and opened it again
[07:23] <arun> now it shows 719mb
[07:23] <arun> i was a bit freaked out
[07:23] <ubunturos> heh!
[07:23] <Assid> hehe
[07:23] <arun> about to email the file to my friend hahaha
[07:23] <Assid> 719mb ???
[07:23] <Assid> you crazy
[07:23] <arun> no
[07:23] <ubunturos> haha - referesh konqueror
[07:23] <arun> when i thought it was 1.2mb
[07:23] <arun> i was like holy crap i can email this movie
[07:23] <ubunturos> arun: that would have been the temporary status
[07:23] <arun> weird
[07:24] <arun> i refreshed it to check.. it didnt change
[07:24] <Assid> yeah thats just the initial headers and decompression routines and stuff mostly
[07:24] <arun> i closed it and opened it, and then it was 719
[07:24] <ubunturos> oh
[07:25] <arun> ok, i need to burn a 721.8mb file to a cd (or two cds)
[07:25] <arun> how do i do it?
[07:26] <arun> how do i split the file
[07:26] <arun> is there an app that can do this?
[07:26] <ubunturos> arun: if you have K3b - if it is a video file
[07:27] <arun> ubunturos: it's a mp4 video file
[07:27] <ubunturos> arun: k3b should do burn it without problems. However, you should test it on a CD-RW .. I guess
[07:27] <arun> ok..
[07:27] <arun> ubunturos: what would be the procedure? is there some setting i need to enable?
[07:28] <ubunturos> arun: not sure. may be you would have to find out, if there are
[07:28] <arun> k3b will split the file automatically?
[07:29] <ubunturos> arun: may be it won't. Not sure though
[07:29] <arun> ok
[07:30] <ubunturos> there might be indications in color - don't let it go red
[07:31] <arun> never mind man
[07:31] <arun> what i'm saying is, if the file size is more than 700MB, will the extra data get split to the next cd
[07:31] <arun> it's ok, i'll find something else
[07:32] <arun> thanks though
[07:32] <ubunturos> :)
[07:44] <spiroo> hello folks :D
[07:45] <spiroo> does nayone need help?
[07:45] <nosrednaekim> help help!! My kubuntu erased the devil of my computer! and i'm a devil worshipper!
[07:45] <robotgeek> nosrednaekim: no it did not!
[07:45] <spiroo> haha :D
[07:46] <spiroo> btw, anyone could recommend a better backup tool then Keep?
[07:47] <llutz> spiroo: tar
[07:47] <spiroo> *sigh
[07:47] <spiroo> a GUI tool to backup files
[07:47] <Biovore> amanda  <-- really ment for big back up jobs..
[07:48] <Biovore> GUI backup never works right..
[07:48] <stoned> hi
[07:48] <stoned> I had problems with amd64 etch debian, it would crash and was unstable.  However kubuntu 7.04 amd64 is fairly stable for me
[07:48] <stoned> I am wondering why?
[07:48] <robotgeek> spiroo: take a look at rdiff-backup , once you set it up, it should be fine.
[07:48] <robotgeek> i just use rsync
[07:48] <Biovore> ^ same here.. :-)
[07:49] <llutz> rsync gui= grsync
[07:49] <spiroo> rdiff-backup, how to do then?
[07:49] <spiroo> Keep uses rdiff-bckup btw :P
[07:50] <jhutchins> stoned: 64bit is pretty new ground, not everything meshes together smoothly yet.
[07:50] <stoned> but i like speed
[07:50] <stoned> (non narcotic)
[07:50] <robotgeek> oh, keep uses rdiff-backup
[07:50] <jhutchins> stoned: kubuntu tends to have more and newer patches, so it tends to have some things fixed that debian doesn't.
[07:50] <robotgeek> spiroo: http://wiki.rdiff-backup.org/wiki/index.php/ContribScripts
[07:50] <stoned> but etch is supposed to be stable eh
[07:51] <jhutchins> stoned: btw, speed is the opposite of narcotic.
[07:52] <stoned> meth is a narcotic
[07:52] <stoned> anyway
[07:52] <stoned> amd64 is superfast for me, but there is only one problem
[07:52] <stoned> w32codecs
[07:52] <stoned> I got flash/java figured out
[07:52] <spiroo> congrats then
[07:52] <stoned> if i can get w32codecs somehow on amd64 tht would solve my issues
[07:53] <stoned> I have w64 codecs, but there are some codecs which are 32bit only
[07:53] <stoned> intel indeo 5 etc. is one of them
[07:53] <stoned> sorry for the abundant use of ENTER
[07:53] <jhutchins> stoned: No, meth is a stimulant, not a narcotic.
[07:54] <stoned> drugs are called narcotics
[07:54] <stoned> it can be a depressent or a stimulant
[07:54] <jhutchins> No, a narcotic is something that causes relaxation, eases pain, and induces sleep.
[07:54] <stoned> I'll have to look this up
[07:55] <jhutchins> narcosis.
[07:55] <stoned> In U.S.legal context, narcotic refers to opium, opium derivatives, and their semi-synthetic or fully synthetic substitutes "as well as cocaine and coca leaves," which although classified as "narcotics" in the U.S. Controlled Substances Act (CSA), are chemically not narcotics. Contrary to popular belief, marijuana is not a narcotic.[4]
[07:55] <stoned> coke is a stimulant
[07:55] <stoned> I'm just going by what little I know :)
[07:55] <jhutchins> Many people, particularly in law enforcement, are ignorant of the word's meaning and use it broadly to describe abused drugs.
[07:56] <stoned> jhutchins: yes, that is the meaning I inteded
[07:56] <stoned> the general broader temr
[07:56] <jhutchins> cocaine is a stimulant, although classified with heroin as a narcotic by U.S. Law, chemically it's not.
[07:56] <stoned> yup
[07:56] <jhutchins> stoned: The ignorant, incorrect term.
[07:56] <stoned> seems like you are correct
[07:56] <jhutchins> Sorry, pet peve.
[07:56] <stoned> well im sorry i fi seem ignorant to you
[07:56] <jhutchins> Narcotics, narcosis, narcolepsy - all about sleep.
[07:57] <stoned> god, what an a-hole
[07:57] <jhutchins> People should learn to use their language, not just repeat what they've heard.
[07:57] <sehe_> this is kubuntu channel, though. not linguistics :D
[07:58] <sehe_> hehe
[07:58] <stoned> whatever, I like to let people talk, who like to talk, and like being correct at the expense of others
[07:59] <stoned> jhutchins's ego infalted by .02 psi
[07:59] <stoned> :)
[07:59] <jhutchins> Woohoo!
[07:59] <sehe_> i wouldnt bet on it, stoned
[07:59] <stoned> anywa...
[07:59] <jhutchins> It just bugs me because cops mis-use the word all the time.  It's their job and they don't even know what the word means.
[07:59] <stoned> dude
[08:00] <stoned> get over it
[08:00] <jhutchins> Jeah.
[08:00] <stoned> anyway, I like amd64 cuz its speedy
[08:00] <sehe_> jhutchins: then stay away from cops.
[08:00] <sehe_> jhutchins: worx for me
[08:00] <jhutchins> sehe_: ...particularly ones worried about "narcotics".
[08:01] <jhutchins> stoned: You running single- or multi-core?
[08:01] <Materials> :)
[08:01] <Materials> he left
[08:02] <stoned> 3.17GHz core 2 duo E6300
[08:02] <stoned> at 3500mhz my cpu is not stable under amd64
[08:02] <stoned> i think its the memory
[08:02] <stoned> i only have ddr2 667mhz
[08:02] <stoned> but runs beautifully under 32bit
[08:03] <stoned> at 3.5ghz. lots of enter keys
[08:03] <Materials> i hate you just a little bit!
[08:03] <stoned> thats ok
[08:04] <stoned> just get some good education, then get a good job and you can afford a core 2 as well
[08:04] <stoned> :)
[08:04] <stoned> oooohhh, burn!
[08:04] <stoned> :)
[08:04] <fandeholly> hi everyone, i have issues booting my laptop and i was hoping someone could help me. The system is stopping when trying to fsck the file systems and do nothing
[08:04] <sehe_> fandeholly: can you boot anything else besides linux?
[08:04] <jhutchins> fandeholly: Possibly one of the filesystems is not defined correctly.
[08:05] <fandeholly> i can boot a live cd
[08:05] <sehe_> fandeholly: ok not off the harddisk then
[08:05] <sehe_> fandeholly: can you do a drive check from a livecd (rule out that there is a physical problem)
[08:05] <fandeholly> i can pass the fsck when booting in recovery mode
[08:05] <sehe_> fandeholly: you can ignore that, if you e.g. you just installed it from a live cd
[08:06] <sehe_> fandeholly: ok that clears something up
[08:06] <fandeholly> but in recovery mode, the system stops on setting up console font and keymap
[08:07] <sehe_> fandeholly: strange
[08:07] <fandeholly> yes
[08:07] <sehe_> fandeholly: did the system ever boot (except from livecd)?
[08:07] <fandeholly> yes
[08:07] <sehe_> fandeholly: good, what change could have caused the problem?
[08:07] <sehe_> fandeholly: (did you install any specific pacjkages/hardware in the meantime)
[08:08] <fandeholly> i don't think so
[08:08] <sehe_> fandeholly: mmm bit inconclusive
[08:08] <fandeholly> i mean, maybe an updated package
[08:08] <sehe_> fandeholly: did you setup ssh on your box (is there anyway to get remote access to it?)
[08:09] <sehe_> fandeholly: i'm trying to get at the output of dmesg, but you'll have to get a shell in order to get that
[08:09] <sehe_> fandeholly: updates should be fine
[08:09] <fandeholly> how do i get a shell?
[08:10] <sehe_> fandeholly: normally, just by logging in. perhaps a bit problematic now.
[08:10] <stuv> hi there
[08:10] <sehe_> fandeholly: if you can ssh in, you could get a shell, even though the virtual consoles won't let you login yet (long shot)
[08:10] <stuv> does anybody have a link for the mce dvd download
[08:10] <fandeholly> wel, i'm not sure it's the best time to setup ssh
[08:11] <sehe_> fandeholly: no it sure isn't. that's why i asked whether you had it :)
[08:11] <fandeholly> maybe from live cd?
[08:11] <sehe_> fandeholly: good, then it should be back to live-cd
[08:11] <sehe_> fandeholly: boot from live-cd, and see whether you can get some info from
[08:11] <sehe_> fandeholly: ... the /var/log/* dir on your harddrive install
[08:12] <fandeholly> how do i access my harddrive?
[08:12] <sehe_> you should be able to just mount the partition. :)
[08:13] <sehe_> fandeholly: in kde, I use 'kdesu kdf', dunno whether kdf exists in live cd
[08:14] <sehe_> fandeholly: perhaps it is already detected and shown in media:/
[08:14] <sehe_> fandeholly: i take it you are not able to try this online?
[08:14] <fandeholly> what do you mean try this online?
[08:14] <sehe_> fandeholly: or are you running IRC off the live-cd now?
[08:15] <sehe_> fand^^
[08:15] <sehe_> fandeholly:  ^^
[08:15] <nn> i installed beryl , but why doesnt it work when i do the shortcuts?
[08:15] <fandeholly> i'm using IRC on a desktop computer, not the laptop i have issues with
[08:15] <robotgeek> i have a problem with my sound, the master does not turn off the other center and surround speakers
[08:15] <sehe_> nn: run beryl-settings to enable modules and configure shortcuts. make sure you are running beryl (not a fallback wm)
[08:16] <sehe_> fandeholly: good: a 2nd pc helps :)
[08:16] <crimsun> robotgeek: that's a feature.
[08:16] <sehe_> fandeholly: so can you try and (1) boot livecd (2) mount hdd partition (3) check /var/log/*?
[08:16] <robotgeek> crimsun: do i need to create a softvol or something similiar?
[08:16] <fandeholly> thank god i have 2 computers indeed
[08:16] <crimsun> robotgeek: generally, no.  Use the other controls.
[08:16] <sehe_> nn: beryl-manager allows a fallback wm
[08:16] <robotgeek> crimsun: i would really like to mute with a single button
[08:17] <crimsun> robotgeek: if it's reproducible on current gutsy, file a bug, otherwise it's moot.
[08:17] <fandeholly> ok livecd is active
[08:17] <sehe_> fandeholly:  media:/ is the easiest option
[08:17] <robotgeek> crimsun: oh okay, i'm still on feisty. i guess i can try out a live cd
[08:17] <sehe_> fandeholly: konqueror -> media:/
[08:18] <sehe_> fandeholly: tell me if the drive is shown - or if you have problems
[08:19] <sehe_> fandeholly: you could use 'blkid' from a konsole to list all parts on all drives
[08:19] <fandeholly> did i tell you i only had ubuntu livecd?
[08:19] <sehe_> fandeholly: arggg nooo
[08:19] <robotgeek> crimsun: thanks for the tip
[08:19] <sehe_> fandeholly: in gnome i'd rather help you from the command line
[08:20] <sehe_> fandeholly: can you open a terminall session?
[08:20] <fandeholly> yes
[08:20] <fandeholly> what should i use?
[08:20] <runlevelten> #ubuntu, #gnome
[08:20] <sehe_> fandeholly:  good, do a 'mount' or 'df' to see whether the HDD may already be mounted sumwhere
[08:21] <nn> how do you make sure beryl is running. i already enabled all the settings in the manager
[08:21] <sehe_> nn: check the menu in beryl-manager (tray icon) to see what windowmanager is selected
[08:22] <fandeholly> df shows no disk, ls /dev shows sda1, sda2 and sda5
[08:22] <sehe_> fandeholly: thx, can you do 'blkid' to identify your root pratition (so, probably the one that is ext3)
[08:23] <sehe_> fandeholly: i hope you have only 1 linux install, and have used somewhat default partition layout?
[08:23] <sehe_> fandeholly: otherwise, i'm going expect you to know which partition is your kubuntu root partition :D:D:
[08:24] <fandeholly> blkid returns nothing
[08:24] <sehe_> fandeholly:  fun. ok, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[10:24] (unperson/#kubuntu) Man_U: Basically, you can either make the first script switch to the correct directory, or you can just make the second script use a absolute file name.
[10:24] <unperson> Man_U: I'm talking about doing the latter.
[10:24] <sehe_> rubicon: i don't think it matters much but it makes sense it should just be the routers box
[10:25] <sehe_> rubicon: (for dns)