[06:58] <WilsonB_> Ok, I created an IRC account on Pigin .. how do I go to specific channels?
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> WilsonB_: file -> join chat
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> WilsonB_: then type:  #ubuntu
[07:00] <thea2rn> test
[07:00] <thea2rn> hello everyone
[07:00] <CFHowlett> thea2rn   ICU
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> WilsonB_: you can then click file -> add in the chat window and you can add itto your favourites
[07:01] <thea2rn> what is ICU?
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> thea2rn: sound out the letters ;)
[07:01] <CFHowlett> thea2rn   *ahem* ...
[07:01] <thea2rn> ok
[07:01] <CFHowlett> say it with me
[07:01] <thea2rn> ahem
[07:02] <CFHowlett> ICU
[07:02] <thea2rn> ICU
[07:03] <thea2rn> can someone tell me what software in ubuntu i can use to create code for DSP
[07:04] <thea2rn> hello :o
[07:05] <thea2rn> CFHowlett
[07:05] <CFHowlett> thea2rn   sorry IDK ...
[07:06] <thea2rn> ok,anybody else?
[07:06] <thea2rn> DSP programming in linux?
[07:08] <thea2rn> i've try google it but no good anwer..
[07:09] <WilsonB_> where is the option file-> ? I dont see it under Pigin menu
[07:10] <sacarlson> thea2rn: like sound filtering?
[07:11] <thea2rn> sacarlson something like that but in programming
[07:11] <CacheMoney1> does this look like a good machine to run Ubuntu on?  http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Toshiba+-+15.6%22+Satellite+Laptop+-+8GB+Memory+-+750GB+Hard+Drive+-+Platinum/4693106.p?id=1218509073324&skuId=4693106
[07:11] <sacarlson> thea2rn:   http://www.ladspa.org/
[07:12] <CFHowlett> CacheMoney1   should have no problems running ubuntu
[07:12] <thea2rn> sacarlson ok,something like synthmaker?
[07:13] <WilsonB_> How do I add #ubuntu to Pigin ?
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> CacheMoney1: if you can find out the wireless chip and sound info it will help, the overall spec is ok
[07:13] <sacarlson> thea2rn: you can use ladspa plugins on many synths
[07:14] <ledzep> hi
[07:14] <thea2rn> sacarlson i know but i want to make the code from linux
[07:14] <thea2rn> sacarlson like synthmaker
[07:15] <ledzep> can anybody help me to learn bash
[07:15] <ledzep> h
[07:15] <sacarlson> thea2rn: heres a list of 7 open coded synth http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20101014143915926/Synthesizers.html
[07:15] <Lisass> "I wish I could circumcise every uncircumcised man in the world, so they'd all be like me. I don't have a foreskin and no one else should have one either."
[07:15] <sacarlson> thea2rn: you can learn from example
[07:16] <CFHowlett> ledzep   this is ubuntu support.  plenty of bash tutorials are available with a bit of searching
[07:16] <CFHowlett> Lisass   wrong channel for that stuff
[07:16] <Fyodorovna> !op | Lisass
[07:17] <thea2rn> sacarlson ok,thank you very much :)
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> not seen that for a while
[07:18] <WilsonB_> Hello?
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> WilsonB_: hi
[07:18] <CFHowlett> WilsonB_   greetings
[07:18] <WilsonB_> Hi
[07:19] <WilsonB_> greetings
[07:19] <WilsonB_> How do I add #ubuntu to Pigin ?
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> WilsonB_: under conversation menu click add
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> WilsonB_: you can even check to have the room be joined immediately after connection :)
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> WilsonB_: I always block nickserv and chanserv too :)
[07:21] <WilsonB_> conversation menu?
[07:21] <sacarlson> WilsonB_:  buddy list>Buddies>add chat>  fill in boxes> add
[07:21] <WilsonB_> I added IRC account Pigin
[07:21] <CacheMoney1> is an i7 processor much better than an i5?  Can anyone explain the difference?
[07:23] <dax> CacheMoney1: Most users won't see much difference. i7 tends to have more cores and cache, and are targeted for workstations rather than consumers.
[07:23] <sacarlson> CacheMoney1:  I think that might mean the i7 has 7 cores as compared to i5 having 5 cores so like 7 computers running at the same time might be faster than only 5
[07:23] <dax> CacheMoney1: ##hardware may know more.
[07:23] <dax> sacarlson: the number doesn't relate to the number of cores
[07:23] <sacarlson> dax I didn't know that
[07:23] <WilsonBradley1> Ahhh... Im now typing in Pigin
[07:24] <CacheMoney1> dax: what's the deal with ##?
[07:24] <WilsonBradley1> ;-)
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> WilsonB_: https://itservices.stanford.edu/sites/default/files/images/2009/12/10/pidigin_chat_invite.png
[07:24] <WilsonBradley1> :-*
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> WilsonB_: if you click add in that menu it will appear in the main window when you connect
[07:24] <dax> CacheMoney1: freenode's naming policy specifies that #channels should be created by groups with a legal or informal claim to the name they're using. ##channels are used for discussion on a particular topic by other people.
[07:24] <dax> CacheMoney1: since "hardware" isn't really a claimable name, the channel for discussion of it goes in the ##channel namespace
[07:25] <CacheMoney1> dax: gotcha.  thanks for explanation
[07:25] <WilsonBradley1> Im now using Pigin
[07:25] <WilsonBradley1> ;-)
[07:25] <WilsonBradley1> Let me see If I can add more channels
[07:26] <sacarlson> dax: your correct an Core i7-2xx0M  has only 2 cores
[07:28] <bastidrazor> it'd be weird to have an odd number of cores.
[07:36] <WilsonBradley1> Ok, it's a little hidden but think I go t it..
[07:38] <WilsonBradley1> Ok, you have to select from drop down first and select the IRC account.. Man, they should make this easier..
[07:39] <ircnode0> can I redirect stdout and stderr separately in bash? like redirect stderr to error_log and stdout to success_log?
[07:42] <WilsonBradley1> Ok, I succesfully added the other channels(groups) to IRC account in Pigin, but when I go under that tab(channel) theres' no place for me to type
[07:43] <dj_segfault> ircnode0: Yes.  To redirect stdout you use >  to redirect stderr you use 2>  So you can do   "mycommand > stdoutfile.txt 2> stderrfile.txt"
[07:44] <dj_segfault> ircnode0: So what you want is mycommand > success_log 2> error_log
[07:44] <WilsonBradley1> Does that make sense?
[07:45] <blendedbychris> https://launchpad.net/~brianmercer/+archive/php  << anyone if there is an official lucid package of php5-fpm?
[07:45] <Drathe> Howdy
[07:45] <Drathe> anyone up?
[07:45] <dj_segfault> Barely
[07:45] <CFHowlett> Drathe   greetings.
[07:47] <Drathe> =) how are you this evenin CFHowlett?
[07:47] <CFHowlett> Drathe   suckin' up the last hour of free wifi B4 safeway kicks me off the channel.  You?
[07:48] <Drathe> ntm, bored looking for a good cheap mouse
[07:48] <Drathe> reliable one =P
[07:48] <CFHowlett> Drathe   staples has nice blue tooth mice for $20 ...
[07:48] <ircnode0> dj_segfault: thanks I will try that out. Is that equal to mycommand 1> success_log 2> error_log?
[07:48] <dj_segfault> Logitech has been pusing features down from the more expensive mice to the cheaper ones.  And they rule.
[07:49] <dj_segfault> ircnode0: Yes.
[07:49] <Drathe> Desktop PC so doesnt matter if its corded =P just need one that isnt going to die like this LS1 Laser mouse
[07:49] <Drathe> guess i game too much and the LMB gave out
[07:49] <qwy> hello , sir . which is better usage  ,   ubuntu graphic mode  or ubuntu text mode ?
[07:49] <CFHowlett> qwy   better depends on your preferences
[07:49] <dj_segfault> "better usage"???? What does that mean
[07:49] <WilsonBradley1> Using Pigin & IRC channel, when I click on the channel tab on top, I don't get the bottom place to where I type.. Does this make sense?
[07:49] <CFHowlett> qwy   for new users, graphic is easier
[07:50] <sacarlson> blendedbychris: looks like it starts being supported at maverick  http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/php5-fpm
[07:50] <dj_segfault> WilsonBradley1: No it does not make sense.
[07:51] <qwy> can i  setup ubuntu as a server , or Centos is a better choice ?
[07:51] <jussi> qwy: cetrtainly, there is even an ubuntu server variant
[07:51] <dj_segfault> qwy: None of our answers can have any validity unless you tell us about what your goals and limitations are.  What are you trying to do?
[07:51] <blendedbychris> sacarlson: indeed… i guess a backport is due
[07:51] <jussi> qwy: you may want to join #ubuntu-server for more :)
[07:51] <CFHowlett> qwy   ubuntu server LTS is supported for 5 years.  current Long Term Support version is 10.04.  12.04 comes out next month
[07:52] <CanadaWhy> everytime I run a bash script installer (of ANY sort) I get the message "gzip: sfx_archive.tar.gz: not in gzip format I am sorry, but the installer file seems to be corrupted." Any reason as to why this happens? Thanks
[07:52] <sacarlson> blendedbychris: that seems to be the only option if you want to run on lucid
[07:52] <unkr> there is a problem when ejecting the external harddisk  error is this   "Error detaching: helper exited with exit code 1: Detaching device /dev/sdc
[07:52] <unkr> USB device: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb2/2-2)
[07:52] <unkr> SYNCHRONIZE CACHE: OK
[07:52] <unkr> STOP UNIT: OK
[07:52] <unkr> Unbinding USB interface driver: OK
[07:52] <FloodBot1> unkr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:52] <dj_segfault> CanadaWhy: What is the output of "file "
[07:52] <peterrooney> CanadaWhy: what does file report it as?
[07:53] <qwy> thank you
[07:53] <WilsonBradley1> DJ_seg. trying to send you a snapshot of window
[07:53] <CanadaWhy> dj_segfault peterrooney $ chmod 700 yEd-3.9_setup.sh $ bash yEd-3.9_setup.sh --> " gzip: sfx_archive.tar.gz: not in gzip format I am sorry, but the installer file seems to be corrupted."
[07:53] <dj_segfault> I know dinno where it went wrong
[07:54] <CFHowlett> !paste|canada PLEASE read
[07:54] <dj_segfault> WilsonBradley1: Please try again.
[07:55] <CanadaWhy> CFHowlett: Read, sorry, I thought the general rule was anything three lines or under is fine
[07:55] <unkr> there is problem while ejecting my external hardisk
[07:55] <unkr> here is the error   http://pastebin.com/W7y33Wm0
[07:55] <CFHowlett> CanadaWhy   no worries.
[07:55] <unkr> can anyone help  ?
[07:55] <peterrooney> CanadaWhy: what does running `file sfx_archive.tar.gz'  tell us?
[07:55] <WilsonBradley1> Ok, trying to send again
[07:56] <phpserver> I want to set up an email handling server.Basically i want only to receive email and i should get my mail in text form in $HOME/Maildir
[07:56] <dj_segfault> WilsonBradley1: It said you canceled the transfer
[07:58] <WilsonBradley1> Dj_s. trying again
[07:58] <mike-w> 有用gnome3
[07:58] <mike-w> 的吗？
[07:58] <CFHowlett> !cn|mike-w
[07:59] <mike-w> 怎么在桌面添加图标==！
[07:59] <zro> has anyone installed 10.04 w/ encrypted LVM? i just tried (actually a fork, XBMC) and it doesnt prompt for the passphrase at boot, and fails.
[07:59] <xiewanchen> who can help me to understand what is system utilities ?
[07:59] <mike-w> oh,mygod, i join the wrong chanel, terribly sorry
[08:00] <mike-w> #join ubuntu-cn
[08:00] <CFHowlett> mike-w   type /join #ubuntu-cn
[08:00] <dj_segfault> WilsonBradley1: Picture got corrupted.  Do you see anything below the line with font insert and smile?
[08:00] <mike-w> thx
[08:01] <xiewanchen> who can help me ?
[08:01] <WilsonBradley1> no , not able to type anything in other channels below font/insert/smile
[08:01] <dj_segfault> xiewanchen: Ask a more specific question
[08:01] <xiewanchen> Please land me a hand
[08:01] <CFHowlett> xiewanchen   what are you trying to accomplish
[08:01] <dj_segfault> WilsonBradley1: But do you see a space to do so?
[08:02] <WilsonBradley1> No, in this window #Ubuntu tab I can
[08:02] <waxstone> !zh | xiewanchen
[08:02] <xiewanchen> I only want to understand what is system utilities
[08:02] <mi3> can anyone suggest how can I modify plymouth script?
[08:02] <WilsonBradley1> in the private chat I can
[08:02] <WilsonBradley1> but in the other channels I added #ubuntuforums I cant
[08:02] <dj_segfault> WilsonBradley1: How are you typing this then
[08:03] <dj_segfault> xiewanchen: Your question doesn't make sense.  Please provide more information about what you want to know.
[08:03] <WilsonBradley1> WilsonBradley1 No, in this window #Ubuntu tab I can
[08:03] <xiewanchen> i see
[08:04] <dj_segfault> WilsonBradley1: If you right click in that area and choose "input methods" which one is chosen?
[08:05] <CFHowlett> xiewanchen   better questions >>> better answers.  :)
[08:05] <Guest16662> how do i setup a samba share to allow group sambashare to rwx files? the problem i'm having is i create folder1 when logged in as user1 and i log in as user2 and try to create a subfolder folder2 inside of folder1, but i do not have permission to do so… can anyone help?
[08:06] <xiewanchen> The other software include system utilities ,applications,shells,libraries of common functions,and so on
[08:06] <Guest16662> when logged in as user1 and i log in as user2 and try to create a subfolder folder2 inside of folder1, but i do not have permission to do so… can anyone help?
[08:06] <dj_segfault> Guest16662: You can add both to a group and set the group of that file to that group, and set write permissions for group to it
[08:06] <CFHowlett> xiewanchen   other software meaning what?  windows?  BSD?
[08:06] <xiewanchen> I don't know what are the system utilities
[08:07] <CFHowlett> xiewanchen   *think* I understand.  Wait 1
[08:07] <Guest16662> all users have been added to sambashare group
[08:07] <waxstone> xiewanchen,  Ubuntu Software centre?
[08:07] <xiewanchen> I copy this sentence for the book
[08:08] <xiewanchen> advanced programming in the unix
[08:08] <iceroot> Guest16662: change the permissions of folder1
[08:08] <CFHowlett> xiewanchen ah.  ubuntu is not linux.
[08:08] <iceroot> Guest16662: so that you are able to write inside that folder
[08:08] <iceroot> !permissions | Guest16662
[08:08] <CFHowlett> xiewanchen  http://fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads/  loads of articles, tutorials, explanations.
[08:09] <iceroot> CFHowlett: correct, ubuntu is not linux, ubuntu is GNU/Linux :)
[08:10] <xiewanchen> I see ,thank you CFHlett
[08:10] <Guest16662> i would be able to change permissions to folder 1 to give user 2 access to modify, but that would mean i have to do that for every new folder created by user 1?
[08:11] <iceroot> Guest16662: why not create the folder as user2? directly?
[08:11] <Guest16662> i wanted to know if its possible to have it automatically give permissions to group sambashare to be able to rwx for all folder created by any user
[08:12] <Guest16662> ice root..i would like to use it as a public share
[08:12] <Guest16662> but not open to everyone to modify
[08:12] <iceroot> Guest16662: why not put the users in the sambashare group and give that group wirte-permissions?
[08:12] <Guest16662> just owner of file/folder and group
[08:13] <iceroot> Guest16662: by default a new folder/file has write-permissions for "group"
[08:13] <Guest16662> ice root…i have put all users in the sambashare group..and modified the share access rwx for sambashare group
[08:13] <iceroot> Guest16662: so put them all in the sambashare group and everything is fine
[08:13] <iceroot> !tab | Guest16662
[08:14] <dj_segfault> xiewanchen: I want to help you.  Can you post the whole sentence in the book you're seeing that phrase in?
[08:14] <xiewanchen> CFHowlett Would you like to recommend me a channel to talk about linux ?
[08:14] <Guest16662> haha..thanks for that tip
[08:14] <Guest16662> iceroot: i'm new to this
[08:14] <iceroot> xiewanchen: #linux
[08:14] <Guest16662> ubottu:  thanks
[08:15] <iceroot> xiewanchen: or the main kernel channel (ofc.net or something like that)
[08:15] <xiewanchen> dj_segfault please wait for a while.
[08:15] <CFHowlett> xiewanchen   I believe dj_segfault can advise you better than I.  AND he's offered to do so  ;)
[08:15] <iceroot> xiewanchen: but i would not suggest the main kernel channel until you know what "linux" is
[08:15] <geek_> hi all, im new here is there a "xubuntu" chat only?
[08:15] <iceroot> Guest16662: #xubuntu
[08:15] <CFHowlett> geek_   yes but it
[08:15] <blendedbychris> sacarlson: is there an easier way to backport rather than compiling?
[08:15] <iceroot> Guest16662: sorry wrong nick
[08:15] <Guest16662> iceroot: um..yeah so back to the problem i get..is i have everyone added to sambashare group already, but that will only give them rwx to the share folder
[08:15] <iceroot> geek_: #xubuntu
[08:15] <Guest16662> every other folder created by users under the share folder is off limits
[08:15] <geek_> thanks is that on ubuntu?
[08:15] <iceroot> Guest16662: no
[08:16] <Guest16662> to the sambashare group users.
[08:16] <iceroot> Guest16662: because every new folder has rw for "group"
[08:16] <Guest16662> so say.../srv/samba/share is accessible to all sambashare group
[08:16] <CFHowlett> geek_ ?  the #xubuntu channel is on the ubuntu irc servers
[08:16] <Guest16662> and is able to write to it.
[08:16] <iceroot> Guest16662: but you want also "x"?
[08:16] <Guest16662> i login as admin and create folder1 in that share
[08:16] <sbarcteam> hi.
[08:17] <iceroot> Guest16662: admin? like root?
[08:17] <CFHowlett> sbarcteam   greetings
[08:17] <Guest16662> i would ike user 2 to be able to login to that share and can add files/folders to folder1..but it say i don't have permission
[08:17] <sbarcteam> I've just upgraded my machine with the latest kernel, and for some reason my X doesn't identify native resolution any more.
[08:17] <geek_> ty :)
[08:17] <iceroot> Guest16662: because user1 and user2 are not part of that group
[08:17] <sbarcteam> (oneiric, kernel: 3.0.0-16-generic)
[08:17] <dj_segfault> sbarcteam: Were you using the proprietary nvidia or ati drivers?
[08:17] <iceroot> Guest16662: what is the output of "id user1" and "id user2"?
[08:17] <sbarcteam> neither.
[08:17] <sbarcteam> I am on intel.
[08:18] <xiewanchen> In a broad sense ,an operation system is the kernel and all the other software that makes a computer useful and gives the computer its personality .This other software include system utilities ,applications,shells,libraries of common function,and so on
[08:18] <Guest16662> iceroot: how do i find that?
[08:18] <sbarcteam> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 12)
[08:18] <Guest16662> iceroot: i have put user1 and user 2 in sambashare group
[08:19] <iceroot> Guest16662: type in "id user1" and "id user2" in the shell and paste me the output
[08:19] <sbarcteam> my first expression of this experience was: WTF?!
[08:19] <sbarcteam> now, is it possible there are changes in the intel related FW?
[08:21] <blendedbychris> when you backport something you are pretty much stuck with that version until you backport it again aren't you?
[08:21] <xiewanchen> dj_segfault I have type this sentence above
[08:21] <ledzep> programming expert
[08:21] <ledzep> ???
[08:21] <dj_segfault> xiewanchen: Ah OK now I understand.  What they are saying is that "the operating system" is not everything that gets installed on your machine.  The operating system is the kernel (the main process) and the boot stuff.  On top of that, you get a whole bunch of programs (commands you can run from the command line) which come with the operating system but are not really part of the operating system.  For instance the shel
[08:21] <iceroot> blendedbychris: depending what you mean with "backport"
[08:21] <sbarcteam> hmmm....
[08:21] <Guest16662> iceroot: uid=1003(user1) gid=1003(user1) groups=1003(user1),118(sambashare)
[08:22] <dj_segfault> ledzep: If you type in a request like that you need a mind reader not a programming expert
[08:22] <dj_segfault> xiewanchen: Does that make sense?
[08:22] <Guest16662> iceroot: uid=1004(user2) gid=1004(user2) groups=1004(user2),118(sambashare)
[08:22] <blendedbychris> iceroot: i'm just trying to get php 5.3.3 on lucid … i'm looking at http://blog.dmitryleskov.com/web-development/php/backport-php-5-3-3-from-maverick-to-lucid/ which says use apt-src and build your own local repo
[08:22] <iceroot> blendedbychris: public server?
[08:22] <blendedbychris> local
[08:22] <iceroot> Guest16662: and what are the permissions of the main sambasharefolder where you want to put other folders in?
[08:22] <blendedbychris> iceroot: what do you mean?
[08:23] <iceroot> !backports | blendedbychris
[08:23] <dj_segfault> xiewanchen: So the "system utilities" would be commands like chmod, chown, cat, mkdir, etc.  They are essential, but they are not part of the operating system
[08:23] <ikonia> !info php lucid
[08:23] <iceroot> !info php5 lucid-backports
[08:23] <iceroot> !info php5 lucid
[08:23] <ikonia> 5.3.2 ? why do you need 5.3.3
[08:23] <iceroot> blendedbychris: and why not 5.3.2?
[08:23] <blendedbychris> php5-fpm
[08:23] <ikonia> blendedbychris: what about it
[08:24] <blendedbychris> not included in 3.2
[08:24] <sbarcteam> I need some help.
[08:24] <blendedbychris> stay on topic guys :)
[08:24] <xiewanchen> sorry dj_segfault  your explain  are perfect  ! I have understood !
[08:24] <dj_segfault> sbarcteam: You never answered my question
[08:24] <ikonia> blendedbychris: it doesn't seem to be in php itself it's an external package
[08:24] <ikonia> blendedbychris: who is not on topic ?
[08:24] <dj_segfault> xiewanchen: Excellent.
[08:25] <iceroot> blendedbychris: use php5.3.2 from the repos and install php5-fpm as external package
[08:26] <sbarcteam> dj_segfault: you never READ it.
[08:26] <ikonia> iceroot: I think 5.3.2 needs a patch
[08:26] <sbarcteam> :)
[08:26] <ikonia> iceroot: (reading the docs)
[08:26] <blendedbychris> iceroot: php5-fpm is php compiled with the process manager option… 5.3.2 needs to be recompiled with that option
[08:26] <ikonia> iceroot: 5.3.3 appears to be the first one php5-fpm is included by default
[08:26] <sbarcteam> dj_segfault: unless you asked me other questions than this one: >> sbarcteam: Were you using the proprietary nvidia or ati drivers?
[08:27] <sbarcteam> I answered: neither.
[08:27] <blendedbychris> i'm just saying getting 5.3.3 would solve the ultimate issue
[08:27] <iceroot> php sucks and is insecure like hell (and yes sorry for the language but its true)
[08:27] <blendedbychris> iceroot: stop talking out of your butt
[08:27] <iceroot> blendedbychris: building such an insecure software from source is not good
[08:27] <ikonia> blendedbychris: it would also be a large problem on your machine
[08:27] <ikonia> blendedbychris: drop the attitude
[08:28] <iceroot> blendedbychris: no problem, i will stop the talking
[08:28] <sbarcteam> iceroot: to tell somebody "I don't like cats" is just an invitation for a response "you simply don't know how to cook them properly".
[08:28] <xiewanchen> dj_segfault Are 't chmod is not a shell command ?my teacher told me it is a shel command .
[08:28] <dj_segfault> sbarcteam: Yes, sorry I did miss that response.  I'm flipping between three different channels.  I was concerned that if you were using a proprietary driver that needed to be compiled for each new kernel that it may not have been compiled, but intel should be in the kernel
[08:28] <iceroot> sbarcteam: cve.org
[08:28] <ikonia> blendedbychris: a lot of things depend on the php packages on your machine (if you are running a web environment) so putting a "from source" or not well thought through package may cause a lot of problems on your machine
[08:28] <blendedbychris> well that's why my original question is how do i backport it… so dependencies are upgraded as well
[08:29] <blendedbychris> not just … hey how do i install php 5.3.3
[08:29] <ikonia> blendedbychris: you'll need to learn about the debian packaging process
[08:29] <iceroot> !ppa | blendedbychris
[08:29] <iceroot> blendedbychris: but as we said, its not a good idea
[08:29] <ikonia> there isn't a PPA for it, I've just been looking
[08:29] <bellman> is unity development still in progress or is it basically replaced by Mint
[08:29] <bilegt> What kernel version will be used in new version of Ubuntu?
[08:30] <ikonia> bellman: mint is a distro - not software
[08:30] <iceroot> bilegt: #ubuntu+1  kernel 3.2
[08:30] <ikonia> bellman: unity is the desktop shell for uubntu for the future
[08:30] <CFHowlett> !mint|bellman
[08:30] <blendedbychris> ikonia: ppa for what?
[08:30] <blendedbychris> 5.3.3 ?
[08:30] <ikonia> blendedbychris: php-fpm
[08:30] <sbarcteam> dj_segfault: now, that we're past your concerns, any new input/ideas (except writing my own xorg.conf)?
[08:30] <blendedbychris> there's not a ppa for it because it's distributed with php5.3.3
[08:31] <blendedbychris> it's no longer a standalone package
[08:31] <ikonia> blendedbychris: yes, but as I see it there are patches needed for pre-5.5.3 branches which is what you are using
[08:31] <dj_segfault> xiewanchen: It depends what you mean by "shell command".  It's a command you can execute in a shell, but when most people say "shell command" they mean "a command processed by the shell itself", not an external program executed by the shell.  If you type "which chmod" you will see that chmod is an external program in the /bin directory. If you type "which cd", it won't find it because it's a command interpreted by the s
[08:31] <sbarcteam> iceroot: I am sure the vulnerabilities in php are a result of: 1) new bugs discovered elsewhere, 2) bad programming skills of the developers, 3) new version of php released
[08:31] <ikonia> blendedbychris: that's why I checked if there was a PPA hosting this for you already so you didn't have to do it
[08:32] <sbarcteam> iceroot: I agree neither is an excuse for sec.vulns, but ... this is life :)
[08:32] <iceroot> sbarcteam: 4. bad concept
[08:32] <dj_segfault> sbarcteam: I'm sorry I don't have much experience with intel
[08:32] <sbarcteam> iceroot: bad design you mean.
[08:32] <OldOneEye> if im gonna host shells on my box do i need to run a dns server
[08:32] <iceroot> sbarcteam: yes
[08:32] <sbarcteam> dj_segfault: I'm sorry I don't have much experience with rejection. HELP ME!!!!!
[08:32] <sbarcteam> :)
[08:32] <sbarcteam> kidding.
[08:32] <ikonia> OldOneEye: up to you
[08:32] <ikonia> OldOneEye: if you are asking questions of that nature, I'd advise not hosting shells
[08:32] <blendedbychris> ikonia: for all i care i can go straight to 5.3.5
[08:32] <iceroot> blendedbychris: https://launchpad.net/~fabianarias/+archive/php5
[08:33] <OldOneEye> only to close friends for eggdrops
[08:33] <sbarcteam> iceroot: there's a nice hebrew idiom, but it rhymes only in hebrew.
[08:33] <dj_segfault> PHP had a bad *INITIAL* design.  They've made huge improvements, but the old security problems are there if you configure it wrong and code badly.
[08:33] <ikonia> blendedbychris: ok - good luck then, you clearly don't need my help
[08:33] <sbarcteam> (related  bugs in design)
[08:33] <blendedbychris> ikonia: i'm not being rude in that last sentence… i just was saying ;)
[08:33] <OldOneEye> what would i need a dns server for
[08:34] <WilsonBradley1> Has anyone tried to add channel #ubuntu-beginners to Pigin for example?
[08:34] <iceroot> blendedbychris: but as we said already, using a ppa (no software from the official repos) is not a good idea, especially on a server
[08:34] <ikonia> blendedbychris: yeah, I was just saying too, you don't need my help if you are smart enough to understand making the jump to php 5.3.5 on an older system
[08:34] <blendedbychris> obviously i feel like a ppa is not the right way to go… but my only other option is compile myself
[08:34] <ikonia> blendedbychris: good luck with it then
[08:34] <blendedbychris> or rather ppa might be the lesser of two evils
[08:34] <iceroot> blendedbychris: ppa will give you (maybe) sec updates
[08:34] <iceroot> blendedbychris: compiled by hand not
[08:35] <iceroot> blendedbychris: and it may break dependencies
[08:35] <blendedbychris> iceroot: if you were stuck in this pickle what would you do?
[08:35] <iceroot> blendedbychris: so please use it at your own risk, issues are not supported here
[08:36] <iceroot> blendedbychris: 1. i would never use ubuntu as a server 2. i would try to avoid php 3. i would use apt-pinning with a newer repo (very bad idea)
[08:37]  * dj_segfault has the sudden realization that it's 4:36AM after DST adjustment.  Must go to sleep.  Best of luck xiewanchen.  Hope I answered your last question.
[08:37] <blendedbychris> 1. strong words for #ubuntu ?
[08:37] <iceroot> blendedbychris: no
[08:37] <iceroot> blendedbychris: as i said "I"
[08:38] <blendedbychris> what's your poison then?
[08:38] <iceroot> blendedbychris: ubuntu is a great desktop-system but not my first choice for a server (but i think that is getting offtopic)
[08:39] <mosno> there's always #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:39] <blendedbychris> I've just never used anything other than ubuntu
[08:40] <sbarcteam> ok. how do I re-configure Xorg from command line ?
[08:43] <waxstone> sbarcteam, sudo gedit /etc/X11/Xorg.conf ??
[08:43] <Mikero> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[08:43] <waxstone> =)
[08:45] <kevo> Anybody here
[08:45] <CFHowlett> kevo   greetings
[08:46] <kevo> I'm new to Ubuntu and I have to say this is WAY Better than Windows
[08:46] <CFHowlett> kevo   glad you're enjoying it.  what can we help you with this day...
[08:48] <geek_> yes im new to linux 2 it's awesome... bye bye win7 :)
[08:48] <geek_> got life in my laptop now
[08:49] <geek_> what is command 2 see hd info?
[08:50] <geek_> like how much space is here
[08:50] <CFHowlett> geek_   df -h or du
[08:50] <geek_> hey thanks
[08:50] <geek_> let me try
[08:50] <CFHowlett> *df -h* NOT du
[08:50] <geek_> ty
[08:53] <OldOneEye> if i got additional ips from my isp could my shell use them as vhosts?
[08:55] <ejv> of course
[08:56] <sk3ptic_1ne> so gdm2setup will never have login theme enabled for 10.04 right ?
[08:58] <WilsonBradley1> Can someone try and add #ubuntu-beginners to Pigin and able to actually type something?
[08:59] <bluefrog> geek_, palimpsest
[09:06] <OldOneEye> can the eggs on my system bind to my additional ip addresses
[09:08] <ikonia> OldOneEye: this is not an eggdrop support channel
[09:09] <sumit> hi
[09:09] <sumit> Is anyone here is a mentor for gsoc ??
[09:11] <geek_> hey all new here i put xubuntu 11.10 on laptop will i be able to upgrade when 12 is avail. or i gotta re-install?
[09:12] <SuperTuan> alo
[09:12] <SuperTuan> co ai khong
[09:13] <jerme1> hello
[09:13] <SuperTuan> where are you from
[09:14] <klawd> o hai!
[09:14] <Mikero> geek_: afaik you can, as long as you have not installed the lts version.
[09:14] <jerme1> any1 intrest to try help me with problem to ubuntu 11.10?
[09:14] <klawd> my pc sometimes suddenly reboots, the last entry in syslog is blueman-mechanism: Exiting
[09:14] <GEagle> hi everyone
[09:14] <klawd> anyone know whats going on here?
[09:14] <ubuntu> yup ask away pal
[09:15] <Mikero> jerme1: I'm sure some here is, don't ask to ask ;)
[09:15] <Mikero> *someone
[09:15] <GEagle> i'd lie to update my qt 4.7.3 to 4.8 and i couldn't find in repos is there any repo to update qt or should i just download from qt web site
[09:15] <jerme1> when i open dash home ubuntu logs me out. Re-intalling dash or resetting it will not help. This only happens ubuntu-2d
[09:15] <jerme1> oops i mean resetting unity
[09:15] <typo234> first time using irssi, this is pretty cool
[09:16] <ubuntu> ive never heard of that
[09:16] <banxi1988> hi,who knows  if there is any remote  desktop software to view ubuntu in android.
[09:16] <ubuntu> what have you done since the last time it worked ok  jermel
[09:16] <typo234> banxi1988: I've used androidviewer, which is a vnc kind of deal
[09:17] <banxi1988> typo234:thank you.
[09:17] <jerme1> not much suddently after playing wine it stops.
[09:17] <typo234> banxi1988: np, it might be called "androidvnc" on the android market, I don't remember exactly.
[09:17] <ubuntu> whatis wine
[09:18] <psycho_oreos> !wine > ubuntu
[09:20] <ubuntu> ok pal useing toes dang windows programs is the issue ill bet i hate windows with a great deal of passion my friend you need to get weined off of you windows addiction
[09:20] <ubuntu> if unix linux dont makit you need to make it your self or not even touch it
[09:20] <jerme1> can wine "broke" my dash home?
[09:21] <ozw1z5rd> is here any tech-guy for tech-question about plymouth ?
[09:21] <Broheim> what's plymouth?
[09:21] <ozw1z5rd> software for ubuntu startup
[09:22] <ubuntu> windows can be screwed up so easily
[09:22] <jerme1> is there any log or something where i can see why my dash home logs me out when i start it?
[09:22] <arnsa> why I can't connect to the skype anymore? :|
[09:22] <ozw1z5rd> handles splash screen and other stuff at boot time.
[09:22] <jerme1> or do i need re-install whole ubuntu?
 same thing
[09:23] <arnsa> micro$oft f**ked it up
[09:23] <jerme1> i have tried to solve this problem too long :(
[09:23] <The_BROS> anybody has problems with Skype?
[09:24] <ozw1z5rd> does skype hangs ?
[09:24] <ubuntu> well me not into debugging yet i would just reinstal it i actually like to set up my system so i can store data off the system so i can start over the minute i feel ive been infected with the enemys crap
[09:25] <gorski> ozwlz5rd: delete shared.xml file
 PSP connect failed - that what I see
[09:25] <gorski> in .Skype
[09:25] <jerme1> ok i try to uninstall wine
[09:25] <ubuntu> just wipe it all
 do u mean skype folder?
[09:26] <ubuntu> get A WHOLE NOTHER SYSTEM IF YOU MUST RUN god awful windows
[09:26] <ubuntu> trying to mesh the two to me is to much of a hassel
[09:27] <jerme1> ok :)
[09:27] <The_BROS> Is 12.04 faster then 11.04?
[09:28] <derpladee> hey guys, what should i look at if i want to load web pages?
[09:28] <Broheim> um ... a .... a browser?
[09:28] <derpladee> woops
[09:28] <ubuntu> mozzila
[09:28] <derpladee> wrong channel
[09:28] <derpladee> sorry :P
[09:29] <derpladee> but thanks anyway!!!
 LOL
[09:29] <ubuntu> that globe and fox son icon
[09:29] <Broheim> :)
[09:30] <geek_> what is command for "bleachbit" seems it's now working?
[09:30] <geek_> not*
[09:30] <geek_> sudo apt-get install ?
[09:31] <gorski> bleachbit
[09:31] <geek_> i tried
[09:32] <gorski> bump
[09:34] <geek_> i just came from win7, when i get this linux down "wow" this gonna rock :)
[09:34] <geek_> love it :)
[09:34] <Broheim> less complementing
[09:36] <hoshi411> is there any way to get the xchat tabs on the bottom instead of on the side?
[09:36] <ubuntu> use smuxi x chat sucks butt
[09:36] <hoshi411> just a tiny pet peeve but....
[09:37] <hoshi411> smuxi?
[09:37] <hoshi411> ok
[09:37] <ubuntu> its in the software center
[09:37] <Ssn> can someone test this for me, go to a folder contains HD video files in nautilus, and zoom in to 400%, see if the thumbnails blurs
[09:37] <hoshi411> installing smuxi now thanks
[09:37] <jerme1> ubuntu: no success totally removed wine. unity-2d logs me out normal unity works
[09:38] <ubuntu> i said wipe it all startover freash and ditch windows software
[09:38] <hoshi411> really liking unity : ) now that it is a little more customizable
[09:39] <jerme1> ubuntu: you mean clean ubuntu install?
[09:39] <ubuntu> probably a windows ubuntu compatability issue cause of some stupid windows crap
[09:39] <geek_> is xubuntu off of unity?
[09:39] <ubuntu> yep new os
[09:40] <ubuntu> new os is easy fix to alot of things
[09:40] <ubuntu> really
[09:40] <pfifo> !xubuntu | geek_
[09:40] <ubuntu> lol
[09:41] <ubuntu> if you get sick of racking brains its a good alternative
[09:41] <geek_> hey thanks
[09:41] <Toni> what version of ubuntu you have?
[09:42] <geek_> lol "xubuntu" always dead
[09:42] <Toni> xubuntu sux
[09:43] <Toni> ubuntu 11.10 rules
[09:43] <geek_> i love xubuntu
[09:43] <Toni> version?
[09:43] <geek_> for new user here
[09:43] <hoshi411> whoever suggexted smuxi to me, thank you
[09:43] <geek_> 11.10
[09:44] <lifestream> Hi, does anyone know if I can pick one gtk3 AND a different gtk2 theme? Basically I don't want to be forced to use the gtk3 theme in gtk2 apps. My favorite gtk2 theme hasn't been ported to gtk3 yet.
[09:44] <geek_> fast and nice on my laptop
[09:44] <hoshi411> geek_: im about to use xubuntu for a liveusb system right now : D
[09:45] <geek_> i tried ubuntu, mint 12, but xubuntu been really awesome here
[09:46] <geek_> lubuntu just 2 simple for me
[09:46] <Toni> but what differences have?
[09:47] <geek_> im new here, not sure i just didn't like ubuntu set-up
[09:47] <r4y> I want to flip my screen upside down so I can play video games upside down so I can stretch my belly
[09:47] <geek_> lol :)
[09:47] <r4y> How?, I am using nvidia-setting
[09:47] <pfifo> the only difference between the *ubuntus is the desktop enviroment
[09:48] <Broheim> no belly stretching talk please. Thank you
[09:48] <geek_> lol
[09:48] <Toni> yeah the nvidia setting was default
[09:48] <Toni> it's easy and automatic
[09:48] <r4y> I looked, what did I miss?
[09:49] <Toni> put the settings right and enjoy
[09:49] <geek_> and xubuntu on my laptop uses 3%cpu and 9% memory
[09:49] <Toni> lol
[09:49] <r4y> Please explain
[09:49] <Toni> yeah
[09:49] <Toni> ehm
[09:49] <Toni> you have the 11.10 version of ubuntu right?
[09:49] <Guest60279> why
[09:50] <r4y> No, 10.04
[09:50] <Toni> okay
[09:50] <pfifo> r4y, nvidi-settings doesnt have the ability todo that
[09:50] <Guest60279> i can not setup vmware server on ubuntu
[09:50] <r4y> OK, TY for helping me
[09:50] <Toni> i open you private chat r4y
[09:50] <r4y> I think mame can though
[09:50] <pfifo> !xrandr | r4y
[09:50] <Guest60279> ok
[09:55] <ganimede> morning
[09:55] <blendedbychris> does ubuntu have an upgrade path to each version?
[09:55] <blendedbychris> i guess major release\
[09:55] <pfifo> blendedbychris, no
[09:55] <ganimede> how can i change the titlebar icon horizontal spacing in ubuntu 11.10, please?
[09:56] <bazhang> blendedbychris, from what version to what version
[09:57] <blendedbychris> bazhang: well i'm contemplating using standard ubuntu now instead of lts
[09:57] <bazhang> blendedbychris, 10.04 now?
[09:57] <bazhang> blendedbychris, what version di d you want to use
[09:57] <blendedbychris> well sure but i'd just be starting over… i'm just wondering if i can deal with the 18mo support
[09:58] <pfifo> blendedbychris, the next lts (12.04) is about a month away from release
[09:59] <blendedbychris> ubuntu server 11.10 i guess
[09:59] <ubuntu> ive got issues installing ubuntu on cd i cant get it to boot its a bios issue anyone that can help follow me to #talkbios
[09:59] <blendedbychris> where's that fancy chart on release times
[09:59] <blendedbychris> on the website
[10:00] <blendedbychris> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[10:00] <blendedbychris> 	pfifo eol on server is like in 2 ears
[10:02] <timothy> i need some help with linux
[10:02] <pfifo> !ask | timothy
[10:03] <ozw1z5rd>
[10:03] <bazhang> timothy, which version of ubuntu
[10:03] <blendedbychris> pfifo: okay can you go from lts 10 to 12?
[10:03] <pfifo> blendedbychris, yes you can
[10:03] <bazhang> blendedbychris, lts to lts is a one-step upgrade yes
[10:04] <blendedbychris> cool
[10:04] <blendedbychris> is there a way to check out the packages for lts 12?
[10:04] <timothy> well i have linux mint 22
[10:04] <timothy> 11
[10:04] <bazhang> blendedbychris, check the version numbers you mean?
[10:04] <blendedbychris> yes
[10:04] <bazhang> timothy, then get mintsupport
[10:05] <bazhang> !mintsupport | timothy
[10:05] <blendedbychris> what's all this mint hype
[10:05] <blendedbychris> bazhang: nevermind :) http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/
[10:05] <bazhang> blendedbychris, /msg ubottu info packagename precise
[10:06] <cosmo2005> !list
[10:07] <blendedbychris> bazhang: just gotta hang in there for lts 12 for fpm :)
[10:07] <blendedbychris> (centos seemed like a pain in the a having to add all the repos)
[10:08] <blendedbychris> is there an upgrade path from beta lts to lts?
[10:09] <bazhang> !final | blendedbychris
[10:09] <Toni> viva espà
[10:09] <Toni> viva españa
[10:09] <blendedbychris> cool!
[10:09] <bazhang> Toni, english here
[10:10] <da__> test
[10:10] <bazhang> !test > da__
[10:10] <SuperTuan> !test
[10:11] <SuperTuan> !test
[10:11] <bazhang> SuperTuan, /msg ubottu please
[10:12] <sisar> so i noticed this on my friends computer, pressing the down arrow key in the terminal makes a 'dang' sound, but i don't have any such sound in my terminal, what is the problem ?
[10:13] <pfifo> sisar, are you sure your PC actually has a bell?
[10:13] <sisar> pfifo: i don't know. how can i find out?
[10:14] <pfifo> sisar, try `sudo modprobe pcspkr`
[10:15] <pfifo> sisar, then press ctrl+g in a terminal, it might trigger the bell
[10:16] <sisar> pfifo: no bell sound heard
[10:16] <sisar> what is 'ctrl+g' for ?
[10:17] <tumppu> ascii code for bell
[10:17] <pfifo> it insters the bell ascii character, or atleast its supposed to
[10:18] <pfifo> sisar, you may be in the same position as me, I dont have a bell connected to my system so it triggers it, but theres no hardware to actually play the sound.  Like on boot up?
[10:19] <sisar> pfifo: i don't think so. Actually i have Windows dual boot, maybe i can find out there if I actually have a bell or not ?
[10:20] <calico> Guys, I need help, my wireless connection is complete $#!^. It is OK some of the time, and some of the time is just slow as hell, and some point dies. It goes thru that 20min cycle and then again it goes back to normal. I can't watch youtube videos or browse the web normally. On a windows machine the connection is perfect.
[10:20] <pfifo> sisar, well all computers have a place to hook the bell, but since most people find the bell annoying, some manufacturers wont install one. the only way to know for sure is to open your case and look for one
[10:21] <sisar> anyway i can trigger the bell in Windows XP ?
[10:22] <pfifo> sisar, I have no Idea how windows implements the bell
[10:23] <sisar> pfifo, oh, ok, no problem. Not a big deal anyway :)
[10:24] <pfifo> sisar, if all else fails, there are softbells available that will play a bell sound through your soundcard
[10:25] <sisar> pfifo, how would i use softbells ?
[10:26] <pfifo> !info beep
[10:26] <pfifo> !info softbeep
[10:26] <pfifo> !info softbeep lucid
[10:27] <pfifo> those are 2 options, there may be more packages if you search in the software center
[10:27] <namoamitabuddha>  % cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[10:27] <namoamitabuddha> 0
[10:27] <namoamitabuddha> why?
[10:27] <sisar> pfifo, ok. thanks :)
[10:27] <pfifo> !gq | namoamitabuddha
[10:27] <sisar> pfifo++
[10:28] <namoamitabuddha> The brightness is zero.
[10:30] <pfifo> namoamitabuddha, is that a problem?
[10:31] <namoamitabuddha> pfifo: yeah, because this is a laptop. I don't know why.
[10:32] <pfifo> namoamitabuddha, then you should increase the brightness
[10:32] <calico> Guys, I need help, my wireless connection is complete $#!^. It is OK some of the time, and some of the time is just slow as hell, and some point dies. It goes thru that 20min cycle and then again it goes back to normal. I can't watch youtube videos or browse the web normally. On a windows machine the connection is perfect.
[10:33] <namoamitabuddha> pinnen: no, it's with full of brightness.
[10:34] <namoamitabuddha> pfifo: no, it's with full of brightness.
[10:34] <pfifo> namoamitabuddha, ahh well if its too bright, then you should decrease the brightness
[10:34] <gordonfreeman> hey guys, for some reason my wireless is not working...just install ubuntu 10.04
[10:35] <namoamitabuddha> pfifo: No, I wonder why the /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness == 0
[10:35] <gordonfreeman> can anyone help me?
[10:35] <Mikero> How can I share the contents of my external household(windows machines) like I did on windows?
[10:35] <ubuntu> gordon more detail
[10:35] <pfifo> namoamitabuddha, perhaps thats not the interface to you backlight hardware
[10:36] <ubuntu> is network detected
[10:36] <gordonfreeman> ubuntu: no
[10:36] <bosong> does it matter if i run 32 bit OS on a 64 bit machine ?
[10:36] <ubuntu> no what
[10:36] <gordonfreeman> ubuntu: no, network devices are not detected
[10:36] <ubuntu> ok then do you have a good aircard
[10:36] <namoamitabuddha> pfifo: There's only one directory and Display controller: Intel Corporation
[10:37] <gordonfreeman> ubuntu: aircard?
[10:37] <gordonfreeman> ubuntu: my wireless worked when i had windows
[10:37] <ubuntu> the circut board that picks up signal
[10:37] <pfifo> namoamitabuddha, then perhaps 0=fullbright and higher numbers represent dimmer levels
[10:37] <gordonfreeman> ubuntu: im not sure, i dont know the command to check. this is a pretty new computer
[10:37] <ubuntu> the ubuntu package should have drivers for it allready
[10:38] <cosmo2005> hi
[10:38] <gordonfreeman> ubuntu: how do i find the driver i need?
[10:38] <ubuntu> wait how did you install without internet connction
[10:38] <gordonfreeman> ubuntu: i had an ethernet cord plugged in, but opted out of the 3rd party installs/upgrades
[10:38] <ubuntu> i think its sudo -lmsh
[10:39] <ubuntu> in terminal
[10:39] <gordonfreeman> ubuntu: command did not work
[10:39] <bosong> does it matter if i run 32 bit OS on a 64 bit machine ?
[10:39] <bazhang> ubuntu lshw , but for cards its lspci or lsusb
[10:39] <ubuntu> sudo-lmsh
[10:39] <bazhang> bosong, go for 64
[10:39] <bazhang> ubuntu thats not correct
[10:39] <ubuntu> sudo-lshw
[10:39] <bazhang> ubuntu see above
[10:40] <gordonfreeman> ubuntu: http://pastebin.com/uARLkiay
[10:40] <bazhang> sudo lshw  bu t not what he wants. its lspci ubuntu
[10:41] <ubuntu> ok then lspci im still learning and still forgetting at the same time lol
[10:41] <bosong> bazhang my bro is running vista 32 bit on an 64 bit hp laptop
[10:41] <gordonfreeman> so, I have the intel device 0885
[10:41] <bazhang> bosong, so? use 64 if you wish
[10:41] <bazhang> gordonfreeman, pastebin of lspci please
[10:42] <gordonfreeman> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/uARLkiay
[10:42] <OerHeks> gordonfreeman, use lspci or lsusb like bazhang suggest.
[10:42] <ubuntu> gordon you got to find a way to test card
[10:42] <bazhang> gordonfreeman, what about lsusb
[10:42] <ubuntu> you should have driver
[10:43] <bazhang> ubuntu, please dont help if you dont know what you are saying
[10:43] <ubuntu> fine3
[10:43] <gordonfreeman> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/1XpQ9A8H
[10:44] <bazhang> gordonfreeman, what laptop make and model is this
[10:44] <gordonfreeman> uhm
[10:44] <gordonfreeman> bazhang: i know its an asus, how do i find the make
[10:45] <gordonfreeman> bazhang: i bought it around christmas
[10:45] <SHOVELL> my partition table seems to be broken or corrupt HELP i would like to fix this with out reinstall
[10:45] <calico> Guys, I need help, my wireless connection is complete $#!^. It is OK some of the time, and some of the time is just slow as hell, and some point dies. It goes thru that 20min cycle and then again it goes back to normal. I can't watch youtube videos or browse the web normally. On a windows machine the connection is perfect.
[10:46] <SHOVELL> nevermind
[10:48] <gordonfreeman> bazhang: are you there?
[10:49] <bazhang> gordonfreeman, seems to be the intel 6150, just checking forums now on how to get working
[10:49] <gordonfreeman> bazhang: thank you so much haha
[10:49] <gordonfreeman> bazhang: wifimax 6150 is correct btw, it was intel driver install on win
[10:51] <mi3> hello!
[10:51] <bazhang> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/886231
[10:51] <bazhang> gordonfreeman, that seems to be it^
[10:52] <bazhang> gordonfreeman, you are on 11.10 correct?
[10:52] <gordonfreeman> bazhang: 10.10
[10:53] <gordonfreeman> is there a driver install on here?
[10:53] <OerHeks> gordonfreeman, is it a laptop?
[10:53] <gordonfreeman> OerHeks: yes
[10:53] <bazhang> gordonfreeman, thats odd. there is a fix for up through 11.04
[10:54] <gordonfreeman> bazhang: do i just need to download a driver or something?
[10:54] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11362436&postcount=42
[10:54] <bazhang> gordonfreeman, correction, its just 11.04 , the issue is both before and after 11.04
[10:55] <pfifo> as is the nature of 'regression'
[10:56] <gordonfreeman> bazhang: so how do i fix this?
[10:56] <gordonfreeman> bazhang: sorry, that was a bit forward haha
[10:57] <bobweaver> see how I have the boxs here for the admin pannel that is how I want it but that is just client side php is making the page I think any one know any thing about that ? http://postimage.org/image/fmuh5gm1d/
[10:58] <bobweaver> wrong channel sorry
[10:58] <piglit> what is the name of the libre or open office channel?
[10:58] <bazhang> #openoffice.org
[10:59] <piglit> thanx
[10:59] <bazhang> gordonfreeman, the only way currently is the ubuntuforums link with 11.04
[10:59] <r4y> It works: http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/05/ubuntu-enable-rotation-nvidia/
[10:59] <bazhang> gordonfreeman, the 11.10 bug has been filed
[10:59] <r4y> It's alive, ha ha ha!
[10:59] <bazhang> r4y, what works
[10:59] <r4y> flipping the screen upside down
[11:00] <bazhang> r4y, ubuntu support issue? please use the nick of the person you are addressing
[11:00] <r4y> No
[11:00] <bazhang> r4y, pardon?
[11:00] <r4y> I don't have a problem
[11:00] <gordonfreeman> jeu sprry
[11:00] <gordonfreeman> hey sorry, i was gone
[11:00] <bazhang> r4y, so why paste that here
[11:01] <r4y> I came asking how to flip my screen upside down
[11:01] <gordonfreeman> bazhang: this isnt 11.10 though haha, ive said twice that im using 10.10
[11:01] <r4y> People were here, or maybe it was the beginner channel
[11:01] <gordonfreeman> bazhang: sorry for not being clearer
[11:01] <bazhang> gordonfreeman, yes, and the bug affects both before and after 11.04
[11:01] <iHarp> Good morning/evening
[11:01] <giu> ciao a tutti
[11:02] <giu> list
[11:02] <gordonfreeman> bazhang: ohhhh haha, i thought you thought that i was talking about later versions
[11:02] <gordonfreeman> i was about to be like, dont cause a panic for a dead bug haha
[11:02] <Naphatul> is it possible to upgrade from ubuntu 8.10
[11:02] <Naphatul> ?
[11:02] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | Naphatul please read
[11:03] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11362436&postcount=42   gordonfreeman this was the fix  with 11.04
[11:08] <gordonfreeman> gah this is going to irritate me
[11:08] <AminosAmigos> ??
[11:09] <gordonfreeman> i cant connect to my wireless network, or even detect wireless networks
[11:10] <AminosAmigos> hello
[11:10] <lancelot> turn off and turn it on, then try it again
[11:10] <AminosAmigos> i am trying to help translating UBUNTU to arabic
[11:11] <AminosAmigos> i am using Virtaal
[11:12] <lancelot> me too
[11:12] <lancelot> i m using vmware player
[11:13] <harish_> hi
[11:16] <dr_willis> Moo!
[11:16] <elky> AminosAmigos, you could try in #ubuntu-translators as they'll know more about translating
[11:17] <bobweaver>  -v
[11:17] <AminosAmigos> ok thnks
[11:17] <elky> i don't know how active they are now though
[11:17] <elky> you might need to check back occasionally until you see someone :)
[11:17] <AminosAmigos> will do
[11:20] <hoshi411> wow... im really liking unity on precise
[11:20] <miaoge> hello everyone.I want to learn kernel of linux .do you have any good ideas to learn it?
[11:20] <hoshi411> good job canonical
[11:20] <miaoge> thank you
[11:21] <hoshi411> natty and oneiric versions notally turned me off to it but
[11:21] <hoshi411> im really starting to see and like how it works
[11:21] <dr_willis> miaoge,  check the kernel.org site? there used to be some kernel guide/ebooks out. but they were a bit old.  theres also a #kernel channel i thiunk
[11:21] <dr_willis> I havent needed to do much with the kernel in ages. :)
[11:22] <miaoge> thanks dr_willis
[11:22] <miaoge> my job needs to know kernel well
[11:22] <miaoge> but i don not know it well
[11:22] <Guest67513> hello...
[11:23] <dr_willis> i have to wonder how you got the job in the first place. :)   but its always good to learn.
[11:23] <dr_willis> with the kernel 3.x  being so new.. guess its a good time to dive in. but watch out for version differances in the older kernels.
[11:23] <miaoge> i was adjusted to that job
[11:23] <dr_willis> adjusted = it got dumped on you. :)
[11:24] <miaoge> no
[11:24] <dr_willis> !kernel
[11:24] <miaoge> they need people have good programming skill
[11:25] <dr_willis> but do they need actual kernel programers? thats a whole special area.
[11:25] <oCean> miaoge: this channel is ubuntu support only. There is a ##linux channel for linux/kernel discussion and for general chit chat /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:25] <dr_willis> the urls given above should give you a good start.
[11:25] <miaoge> ok  thanks all of you
[11:26] <dr_willis> I guess it shows how much Linux and Ubuntu have progressed - that i havent had to mess with the kernel in perhaps 6+ years...
[11:26] <SteveBell> hi all. I was checking for updates with update center or "aktualisierungsverwaltung" in german. now I see "zwischenspeicher wird aktualisiert" or cache is being updated. that seems to be hanging and repeating it self without progress. using latest stable ubuntu 64bit.
[11:26] <Ca11um> I've just installed Ubuntu (dual-booted with W7), but my screen has a massive border around it.
[11:26] <SteveBell> any way I can finish this task or fix this problem?
[11:26] <r4y> Toni
[11:26] <Ca11um> On Windows I resolved this by disabling the scaling
[11:26] <dr_willis> Ca11um,  whats yur video card/chipset. and what kind of monitor?
[11:26] <Ca11um> But I can't find such settings on Ubuntu
[11:26] <Ca11um> BenQ G2420HD
[11:27] <Ca11um> 24"
[11:27] <oooaaaooo> hi guys , is it possible to create a startup disk with multiple versions of ubuntu on it?
[11:27] <SteveBell> e.g. it keeps saying "sources - idle".
[11:27] <dr_willis> for my low end ati box i have. I have to install the fglrx drivers, then use the ati control panel to tweak the 'overscan' setting. since i am running at the native res of the monitor (well a hdmi tv in my case)
[11:28] <dr_willis> oooaaaooo,  you can make a multi-booting cd/dvd or flash drive via using grub2 to boot iso files rather easially.
[11:28] <sacarlson> oooaaaooo: I've seen some usb boot info about having a single usb pen drive boot about 7 different linux
[11:28] <OerHeks> oooaaaooo, sure, use pendrive >>> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[11:28] <dr_willis> oooaaaooo,  the pendrive linux site above makes that task rather easy :)
[11:28] <Ca11um> Ah...
[11:28] <Ca11um> There are updates in Additional Drivers
[11:29] <oooaaaooo> OerHeks: thanks!
[11:29] <SteveBell> hi all. I was checking for updates with update center or "aktualisierungsverwaltung" in german. now I see "zwischenspeicher wird aktualisiert" or cache is being updated. that seems to be hanging and repeating it self without progress. using latest stable ubuntu 64bit.
[11:29] <dr_willis> Ca11um,  normally the scaleing setting would be to how to scale  resolutions that are less then the monitors native res.  id hope you are running your desktop at the native res.
[11:30] <Ca11um> It can't get any higher than 1920x1080
[11:30] <dr_willis> SteveBell,  try the classic 'sudo apt-get update' from a terminal and see if any error messages are mentoned
[11:30] <Ca11um> Can it?
[11:30] <dr_willis> Ca11um,  if you have borders at that res. i would think its an overscan setting. but it may be some quirk in the moniotr/drivers
[11:31] <oooaaaooo> OerHeks: will this mess with my mbr?
[11:31] <dr_willis> You can get monitors that can go higher. :)
[11:31] <dr_willis> oooaaaooo,  if you boot a cd.. it wont mess with your system.
[11:31] <dr_willis> oooaaaooo,  or a pendrive.
[11:31] <oooaaaooo> dr_willis: oh ok
[11:31] <dr_willis> unless we are confused as to what you are wanting.
[11:32] <dr_willis> I made a 8gb pendrive into a 6+ differnt disrto installer :)
[11:32] <Ca11um> Overscan setting?
[11:32] <dr_willis> You could even set up grub2 on your installed system to boot iso files for a super fast fallback/testing method.
[11:32] <dr_willis> Ca11um,  thats what its called in my config panels.
[11:33] <dr_willis> most montors ive seen have a few % of overscan they can do.
[11:33] <oooaaaooo> dr_willis: so this thing installs grub 2 on the flashdrive ?
[11:33] <Ca11um> Is this in System Settings?
[11:33] <OerHeks> oooaaaooo, grub2 method & pendrive are 2 different ways
[11:33] <dr_willis> oooaaaooo,  the pendrive linux tools can install grub2 to flash or i think they can set up syslinux
[11:34] <dr_willis> pendrivelinux has numerous tools
[11:34] <dr_willis> Ca11um,  for my ATI card - its in the ati config tool. Never noticed it in the nvidia-settings tool. never needed it on my nvidia box.
[11:34] <nodie> hi
[11:34] <nodie> for some reason my unity stopped showing the menu bar and the lateral bar
[11:35] <nodie> when I execute "unity --reset" on a terminal (I read that somewhere) I got a core dump
[11:35] <dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan
[11:35] <nodie> I've read about this problem in some forum
[11:35] <nodie> how can I solve it?
[11:35] <dr_willis> nodie,  as a test.i would make a new user and see if the problem affects them also
[11:36] <nodie> ok
[11:37] <SteveBell> dr_willis thanks for the tip. getting several error messages. how can I copy paste them? cmd + c seems to trigger a virtual box command rather than copying the selected terminal output.
[11:38] <dr_willis> !pastebin
[11:39] <dr_willis> i dont think cmd-c is copy :)  (whatever the cmd key is)
[11:39] <killbott> hello
[11:39] <Ca11um> What software package do I need to install for the ATI control panel, dr_willis?
[11:39] <level09> if i want to set an environment var, where is the best place to do so ?
[11:39] <dr_willis> Names of unitys parts  - worth reading. --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/10228/whats-the-right-terminology-for-unitys-ui-elements
[11:39] <SteveBell> cmd key is a standard os x key.
[11:39] <theadmin> dr_willis: cmd = ctrl
[11:39] <dr_willis> Ca11um,  they got installed when i installed the ati drivers.
[11:39] <theadmin> (methinks)
[11:40] <Ca11um> I am trying to install the drivers atm....
[11:40] <Ca11um> I can install 1
[11:40] <dr_willis> sounds like its the apple/special key.. but i got rid of all my apples.
[11:40] <SteveBell> now I still don't know how to copy from the terminal.
[11:40] <Ca11um> But the second errors
[11:40] <theadmin> SteveBell: Right-click and "Copy"
[11:40] <dr_willis> SteveBell,  select and right click?
[11:40] <dr_willis> :)
[11:40] <AminosAmigos> dont you just select the right click copy ???
[11:40] <theadmin> SteveBell: Or just use X11 selection buffers if you don't mind them
[11:40] <dr_willis> guess apple users dont think of right clicks...
[11:40] <Ca11um> Ah cool
[11:40] <Ca11um> Linux has Catalyst Control Center
[11:41] <dr_willis> Ca11um,  that sounds like it.. they keep changeing its name.. the actual binary has some weird name.
[11:41] <AminosAmigos> you don't right click in apple ?:!
[11:41] <dr_willis> AminosAmigos,  apple mice have 1 button (well used to ) last i looked
[11:41] <SteveBell> @all: thx. isn't it strange that cmd copy does not work? no I really don't think of right clicks. I think of keyboard shortcuts. alyways faster...
[11:41] <AminosAmigos> :o
[11:41] <SteveBell> here#s the pastie: http://pastebin.com/7Z0fqhtV
[11:41] <dr_willis> but the new mice they have - have a special button just to show the widgits - or somthing. :)
[11:42] <SteveBell> I have a normal to click mouse. still keyboard shortcuts are faster and easier.
[11:42] <dr_willis> menu shouls show the proper keyboard shortcut
[11:42] <SteveBell> *two
[11:42] <Ca11um> Working perfect, thanks dr_willis.
[11:42] <dr_willis> I just select, and middle click... im old skool. :)
[11:42] <AminosAmigos> i think the keyboard shortcut is CTRL+shift+c
[11:42] <SteveBell> the right click menu does not contain any keyboard shortcut info.
[11:42] <theadmin> SteveBell: Ctrl+C is a special terminal combination (break)
[11:42] <theadmin> SteveBell: Meaning "stop whatever you're doing"
[11:42] <theadmin> SteveBell: Been so before GUIs appeared, so...
[11:42] <AminosAmigos> good to know
[11:43] <SteveBell> ok, sry I'm a total terminal noob. ok thx for explaining
[11:43] <dr_willis> ctrl-c i thought only did that in the terminal, not in the gui/desktop. but im not on ubunti right now. :P
[11:43] <SteveBell> could someone have a look at the pastie?
[11:43] <SteveBell> here it  is: http://pastebin.com/7Z0fqhtV
[11:45] <SteveBell> if you need anything translated to eng pls tell me...
[11:46] <theTroy> Hi, I am using disk utility to create a RAID array. It worked allright, but I cannot find how to delete it now, am I blind or is there a special way to delete raid arrays?
[11:47] <theadmin> Bah... Sorry, a crash
[11:47] <airtonix> SteveBell: the gnome convention for displayin keyboard shortbuts is to never display them in right click context menus, only menubar accessed menus do.
[11:47] <SteveBell> ok, sorry. I falsely assumend cmd + c was global but it is not.
[11:48] <SteveBell> what about the error msgs?
[11:48] <ironm> good morning. I hope you can give some hints ;) I try to create ubuntu live images (oneiric) using live-builder 3.0-a45 but even in the simplest possibe configuration I am getting an error like: E: Unable to locate package console-common
[11:48] <airtonix> SteveBell: in macosx can you cmd + c to copy text from terminal.app?
[11:48] <ironm> the config is like: [2012-03-11 12:14:05] lb_config noauto --mode ubuntu --bootloader syslinux --architectures amd64 --linux-flavours generic --distribution oneiric --debian-installer live --iso-preparer ironm --iso-publisher IT-infrastrukturen.org --iso-application debian-live-databases-awesome --iso-volume oneiric-amd64-2012-03-11 --hostname oneiric --username sql --bootappend-live locales=en_GB.UTF-8 utc=no timezone=Europe/Zurich keyboard
[11:48] <ironm> -layouts=en --bootappend-install locales=en_GB.UTF-8 utc=no timezone=Europe/Zurich keyboard-layouts=en
[11:48] <r4y> I wonder if some of you use 2 computers at the same time so you can try out things on one and use the other for irc so if one computer needs to restart and so forth. I don't because I don't have the money and space
[11:48] <ironm> I run it on oneiric (11.10)
[11:49] <ironm> any idea? thank you in advance for any hints ;)
[11:50] <airtonix> SteveBell: the only error message i see there is a DNS issue? hostname not found?
[11:50] <theadmin> r4y: You can IRC on a phone nowadays :P
[11:50] <SteveBell> r4l I sometimes wish I had a second computer which I could leave running as an skype answering machine while I'm on the run with my laptop. but currently only have a laptop
[11:50] <r4y> Cool
[11:50] <SteveBell> airtonix which means the update is taking like 40 minutes?
[11:50] <airtonix> SteveBell: perhaps you should find out if your ISP provides a local ubuntu mirror then
[11:50] <theadmin> r4y: Or just grab a raspberry pi, those are $35 for god's sake, and you can use them for IRC for sure :D
[11:51] <airtonix> SteveBell: most ISPs do, and you can find out with the software sources application
[11:51] <SteveBell> airtonix: have no experience with that. would I have to do?
[11:51] <airtonix> SteveBell: i believe you start by opening the Software Center.
[11:51] <SteveBell> should I cancel the temrinal update?
[11:52] <SteveBell> it's at 16%.
[11:52] <airtonix> SteveBell: or ... even better: press the Command Key, type : Software Sources
[11:52] <SteveBell> since I started posting...
[11:52] <SteveBell> where?
[11:52] <airtonix> SteveBell: yeah cancel it
[11:52] <SteveBell> how?
[11:52] <airtonix> SteveBell: Command Key will initiate a "spotlight like " popup
[11:52] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[11:53] <airtonix> SteveBell: cancel it by clicking in the terminal, and press : ctrl shift c
[11:53] <theadmin> SteveBell: ctrl-c
[11:53] <airtonix> SteveBell: yeah ctrl c
[11:53] <airtonix> a few times
[11:53] <SteveBell> kk, thx. sorry for being such a terminal noob. mostly used to guis...
[11:53] <airtonix> (assuming you are performing a sudo apt-get update in a terminal)
[11:54] <r4y> That's neat to know
[11:54] <airtonix> SteveBell: what happens when you press the command key now?
[11:54] <SteveBell> ok, the spotlight like feature is cool. i enter "Software sources" hit enter - noghting happens.
[11:54] <airtonix> SteveBell: don;t hit enter. do you see an entry called "Software Sources" show up?
[11:54] <airtonix> SteveBell: you have to actually have it highlighted before pressing enter does anything meaningful
[11:54] <SteveBell> now. just a little box in the low right corner
[11:54] <atengesdal> Hello, running 12.04 and I can't get inSSIDer to work, can anyone help?
[11:55] <atengesdal> Unhandled Exception: System.TypeLoadException: Could not load type 'MetaGeek.inSSIDer.Extensions.Graphs.View.ChannelView' from assembly 'MetaGeek.inSSIDer.Extensions.Graphs, Version=<IP_ADDRESS>9, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null'.
[11:55] <theadmin> atengesdal: Precise is not supported here
[11:56] <airtonix> SteveBell: http://imagebin.org/202851
[11:56] <SteveBell> airtonix hmm. I press cmd > software sources > nothing. then again cmd > software sources > highlight the text > enter > nothing happens...
[11:56] <r4y> Toni
[11:56] <theadmin> SteveBell: It's not a separate app eh... Search for it in the control center
[11:57] <r4y> I guess Toni is not currently on his computer. Sorry guys
[11:57] <SteveBell> airtonis ah interesting. this field is not triggered by cmd for me. I get a little box in the right low corner: http://cl.ly/0y2i2h1l0H3w2r3L2r1n
[11:57] <airtonix> SteveBell: http://imagebin.org/202852
[11:57] <SteveBell> yes I can do that.
[11:57] <atengesdal> anyone? help with inSSIDer?
[11:58] <airtonix> SteveBell: then that is not the same tool i get when i press the equivilant  of your  macosx command key (the windows key on non mac computers)
[11:58] <theadmin> atengesdal: 12.04 is NOT supported here. #ubuntu+1
[11:58] <atengesdal> oh, sorry :-) thanks! I'll move over :-)
[11:58] <SteveBell> I assume software paketquellen is then right? http://cl.ly/1l1R1M0H2v2L0x253x46 not sure why the icon differs though?
[11:59] <SteveBell> so in there what do I do? should I switch the server from germany to main server?
[11:59] <SteveBell> airtonix: switch the server?
[12:00] <airtonix> SteveBell: yeah possibly find your ISP there?
[12:00] <SteveBell> airtonix no. just main server and german server
[12:01] <airtonix> SteveBell: in my screenshot i have my isp selected. http://imagebin.org/202853
[12:01] <airtonix> SteveBell: click "other"
[12:02] <SteveBell> I have plenty of server entries there.
[12:02] <airtonix> SteveBell: under germany i see quite alot os mirrors, maybe on of those is your isp
[12:02] <airtonix> of*
[12:02] <SteveBell> I am at o2 alice hansenet
[12:03] <airtonix> SteveBell: is that the name of your ISP ?
[12:04] <SteveBell> basically yes.
[12:05] <SteveBell> hm, ok, very complicated all this. I have an appointment now. might try later.. agin
[12:05] <loop_> hi
[12:09] <inaayat> Hello everyone,
[12:09] <loop_> hi inaayat
[12:10] <inaayat> loop_ hi !
[12:10] <inaayat> FloodBot1
[12:10] <loop_> means
[12:11] <inaayat> Did anybody know how to uninstall ´Cairo-Dock´ on Xubuntu ?
[12:11] <inaayat> ......./....../....../
[12:11] <loop_> no
[12:11] <inaayat> if i use sudo apt-get remove cairo-dock it doest not work :( !?
[12:12] <inaayat> CTRL ALT F1 Doest not work
[12:12] <inaayat> I CANNOT UNINSTALL PROGRAMS !!! :@@@@@
[12:12] <inaayat> inaayat
[12:12] <inaayat> inaayat
[12:12] <inaayat> inaayat
[12:12] <FloodBot1> inaayat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:12] <inaayat> OK,
[12:16] <Osmond> When i boot up I have to enter the grub menu, hit E on the kernel, and edit that text.  Where do I find that file once I'm logged on? I would like to make the changed permanent
[12:16] <szal> Osmond: what change exactly?
[12:17] <r4y> Does anyone know what the network is called that firefox users use for irc?
[12:17] <szal> r4y: huh?
[12:17] <Osmond> Im having to use nomodeset instead of quiet splash, I guess linux isnt too friendly with Intel HD 3000 graphics cards
[12:18] <r4y> What I mean is even though firefox is on freenode, freenode is not the network most firefox gurus use from what I was told
[12:18] <r4y> Or rather
[12:19] <r4y> it's not the channel and network they use the most
[12:19] <szal> Osmond: 'nomodeset' and 'quiet splash' have nothing to do w/ each other, they can be used concurrently.. and the file you want to edit for making that change is /etc/default/grub, after which you run 'sudo update-grub'; you don't edit the grub.cfg directly as that change would be lost after e.g. a kernel upgrade
[12:19] <_raven> 11.10 - i have some ssl problems - seems that every cert has vanished - how to find out the problem and how to solve it?
[12:19] <szal> r4y: irc.mozilla.org
[12:19] <r4y> oops, sorry, I just said the same thing twice, lol
[12:19] <Osmond> Thats weird, the tutorial I saw online told me to replace quiet splash with nomodeset
[12:20] <Osmond> so i can just append nomodeset right after quiet splash?
[12:20] <szal> Osmond: iirc, yes
[12:20] <Osmond> Sweet, well thank you man!
[12:22] <Fonzie> Can anyone suggest any software for resizing partitions from the command line?
[12:22] <Fonzie> (not system partition)
[12:23] <OerHeks> Fonzie, use parted, or gparted ( with Gui )
[12:23] <Fonzie> hm, ok. Didnt know there was any gparted without GUI. Thanks
[12:23] <OU818> can i find help for hannahmontanna linux here?
[12:23] <_raven> 11.10 - i have some ssl problems - seems that every cert has vanished - how to find out the problem and how to solve it?
[12:24] <theadmin> OU818: Nope. Only Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu and Ubuntu Studio are supported here
[12:25] <dr_willis> OU818,  i suggest you check out 'fuzzy linux' as an alternative to HannaMontannaLinux
[12:26] <oooaaaooo> hi guys, i am booting an old laptop from a usb with 11.04 on it and ubuntu loads but NOT the gui. WHen I type in dmesg into the session the last message says "lp: driver loaded but no devices found" Does this mean the gfx card is dead?
[12:26] <theadmin> dr_willis: Do not suggest unsupported distributions in this channel, please.
[12:26] <dr_willis> oooaaaooo,  try 'startx' and look for error messages. also check what video card/chipset  you have.
[12:26] <dr_willis> theadmin,  both are Joke disrtos.  :P She so loves PINK..
[12:28] <oooaaaooo> dr_willis: it says fatal server error: no screens found
[12:28] <_raven> 11.10 - i have some ssl problems - seems that every cert has vanished - how to find out the problem and how to solve it?
[12:28] <theadmin> !patience | _raven
[12:28] <calico> Guys, I need help, my wireless connection is complete $#!^. It is OK some of the time, and some of the time is just slow as hell, and at some point dies. It goes thru that 20min cycle and then again it goes back to normal. I can't watch youtube videos or browse the web normally. On a windows machine the connection is perfect.
[12:28] <dr_willis> oooaaaooo,  and whats your video chipset?  'lspci' should show mention of it.
[12:29] <oooaaaooo> dr_willis: im sure its a nvidia 6400 gs. let me do a quick grep
[12:29] <theadmin> calico: Search for any restricted drivers for your wireless card.
[12:30] <calico> theadmin, how do I do that
[12:30] <dr_willis> oooaaaooo,  you may want to install the 'nvidia-current' package, or run the jockey-cli (i think) app to install the nvidia drivers
[12:31] <theadmin> calico: Search for "Hardware Drivers" in the dash, open that
[12:32] <calico> theadmin, I'm with xfce, btw. I can't find a "device manager" in Ubuntu? Is there one
[12:32] <dr_willis> !info hwinfo
[12:33] <dr_willis> calico,  depends on what you are wanting to do exactly. :)  theres several hardware info tools in the repos.
[12:33] <oooaaaooo> nvidia corporation g86 geforce 8400m gs
[12:33] <dr_willis> oooaaaooo,  its possible the open sourced nevou driver has issues with that card. id try installing nvidia-current and reboot and see if it works
[12:34] <calico> dr_willis, well, for example I want to disable my webcam. Also how do I find out what is my wireless hardware so I could find these restricted drivers
[12:34] <oooaaaooo> dr_willis: it says in the startx error : "(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia"(module does not exist,0)" does that mean i have a bad gfx card?
[12:34] <dr_willis> oooaaaooo,  if you can see any output at all.. that implies your card is working..
[12:35] <dr_willis> oooaaaooo,  install the proper Nvidia drivers for it. its possible the Open sourecd drivers do not like that old a card.
[12:35] <oooaaaooo> dr_willis: how do i make sure it isnt some onboard gfx chip?
[12:36] <oooaaaooo> dr_willis: ok how do i go about doing that in cli from a boot usb?
[12:36] <dr_willis> You just showed it has a nvidia gpu. lspci would show all of them it finds.
[12:36] <dr_willis> oooaaaooo,  boot to the console/rescue mode. no need to do  a usb boot.
[12:36] <dr_willis> oooaaaooo,  theres also numerous grub options that might get it to a working desktop
[12:36] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | oooaaaooo
[12:37] <dr_willis> oooaaaooo,  is this just a test box? or is it going to do some real work?
[12:40] <oooaaaooo> dr_willis: im just trying to revive an old laptop.
[12:40] <oooaaaooo> dr_willis: ive taken the harddisk out of it
[12:41] <oooaaaooo> dr_willis: i was thinking of using it as a fulltime desktop/print server as alli have is a netbook
[12:42] <oooaaaooo> dr_willis: i dont even see the bios splash screen, is this normal?
[12:43] <_raven> 11.10 - i have some ssl problems - seems that every cert has vanished - how to find out the problem and how to solve it?
[12:46] <oooaaaooo> dr_willis: oh wait it works now
[12:46] <oooaaaooo> dr_willis: im in the bios...could have sworn it wasnt showing up
[12:48] <dr_willis> bbl
[12:49] <oooaaaooo> dr_willis: wthell now i see the ubuntu splash screen
[12:51] <calico> ohhhh, I can't even download this Hardware identification system stuff with such slow and constantly stalling connection. dr_willis where can I find these restricted drivers anyway, and  do you think it is certain that it is the drivers
[12:54] <oooaaaooo> dr_willis: are you still here?
[12:55] <Erealz> what the name of the pdf reader that come with ubuntu?
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> evnce
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> evince
[12:56] <_raven> 11.10 - i have some ssl problems - seems that every cert has vanished - how to find out the problem and how to solve it?
[12:56] <fromage> hi all. Can anyone help me with the dual subtitling on vlc player?
[12:57] <fromage> I downloaded the extension and put it in the folder but it's not working
[12:58] <Erealz> im sorry can some on tell me the defoult pdf reader in ubuntu
[12:59] <theadmin> Erealz: evince
[12:59] <calico> theadmin, where can I find these restricted drivers anyway, and  do you think it is certain that it is the drivers
[12:59] <theadmin> calico: As I said, this tool comes with Ubuntu, just run it
[12:59] <theadmin> calico: It's called simply "hardware drivers"
[13:00] <auronandace> calico: may be called additional drivers
[13:00] <rocker> Hi!
[13:00] <SlothScripts> I installed 11.04 alongside Windows7 using the recommended partition; the boot loader does not appear on start-up; is there someway to correct this without restoring my computer in general?
[13:01] <st1> 11.04?
[13:01] <st1> do you have windows 7 installation disc?
[13:01] <calico> theadmin, I opened it it says No properietary drivers are in use
[13:02] <SlothScripts> I do not. It came pre-loaded;
[13:02] <_raven> 11.10 no ssl access possible any more - what could be wrong?
[13:02] <eichi_> hello. which ubuntu server version should I use, if I want to upgrade as soon as posible to 12.04 LTS? the 11.10 or the 10.04 LTS (to make LTS to LTS update)
[13:02] <rocker> I accidentally change my screen aspect ratio from 16:9 to 4:3, now whenever I start my pc, my monitor always displays 4:3 aspect ratio right from the beginning, i.e. from the grub loader. Can you suggest how can I revert back to my original settings? I have a dual boot configuration. Please suggest .
[13:03] <st1> SlothScripts:  do you have another computer that you can make a liveusb?
[13:03] <freeman__> salut tlm
[13:04] <OerHeks> SlothScripts, hold shift @ boot to enter the grub menu, there you can choose windows
[13:04] <nikolja> SlothScripts: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2
[13:05] <st1> he said bootloader doesn't come up
[13:05] <nikolja> There you have 5 different ways to reinstall grub
[13:06] <bmoez_> #join #ubuntu-fr
[13:06] <SlothScripts> Thank you very much! I'll try it and get back to you all :)
[13:08] <rocker> ??
[13:08] <rocker> I accidentally change my screen aspect ratio from 16:9 to 4:3, now whenever I start my pc, my monitor always displays 4:3 aspect ratio right from the beginning, i.e. from the grub loader. Can you suggest how can I revert back to my original settings? I have a dual boot configuration. Please suggest .
[13:10] <nikolja> rocker: what graphic card do you have? Check out in settings
[13:11] <st1> wouldn't that be a hardware setting on the monitor?
[13:12] <nikolja> why in monitor? Monitor just display what graphic card tell him
[13:12] <rocker> nikolja, I dont have any gfx card, and the aspect ratio option from the monitor window in ubuntu is not there[in short my screen resolution option has been wiped out]
[13:12] <nikolja> :D
[13:12] <nikolja> you don't have graphic card
[13:12] <nikolja> integrated?
[13:13] <rocker> nikolja, st1, yes, its integrated
[13:13] <rocker> onboard gfx nikolja
[13:13] <st1> I have a button on my monitor changes ratio from 16:10 to 4:3
[13:14] <bosong> does ubuntu automatically sync time with a remote server ?
[13:14] <_raven> 11.10 no ssl access possible any more - what could be wrong?
[13:14] <rocker> st1 i dont have that button
[13:14] <nikolja> rocker: did you try to google it?
[13:15] <st1> rocker do you mean 4:3 that has black bars on left and right, or 4:3 image stretched to 16:9
[13:15] <rocker> yeah i did, nikolja, but with no result
[13:15] <rocker> no
[13:15] <rocker> st1, no
[13:16] <st1> rocker no black bars?
[13:16] <rocker> st1 I dont get black bars
[13:17] <st1> top right buttom on unity panel, go to display, choose your resolution
[13:19] <_raven> 11.10 no ssl access possible any more - what could be wrong?
[13:19] <rocker> st1one more thing, i am only able to open gnome classic, not unity[i use ubuntu 11.04] and the the 16:9 option in monitor window is not there!
[13:19] <rocker> st1 one more thing, i am only able to open gnome classic, not unity[i use ubuntu 11.04] and the the 16:9 option in monitor window is not there!
[13:20] <rocker> sorry for flooding
[13:20] <st1> system setting - display, don't look for 16:9 look for the resolution of your monitor
[13:21] <theTroy> Hi, I have assembled a RAID0 array, but it seems the write speed is lower than any of single devices being used. I am also unable to "check raid" in Disk utility, since it says that /dev/md0 is not idle
[13:21] <ssiie> who know any media play that has fast forward feature ?
[13:21] <theTroy> ssiie: vlc
[13:21] <ssiie> thetroy how fast it support ?
[13:21] <theTroy> ssiie: as fast as your hdd can read the media... 20x 40x etc
[13:22] <Mikero> Hi. Is there a general conventions or rule on where to install applications (like Program Files on Windows)?
[13:22] <ssiie> that's great
[13:22] <ssiie> thaks
[13:22] <rocker> st1 i think i resloved my issue
[13:22] <rocker> thanks for the time st1
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> Mikero  /usr/bin/
[13:22] <__Alex_> Mikero: yes, there is: /usr/local/bin
[13:22] <mosno> MikeH, FHS
[13:23] <theTroy> Mikero: normally you tend to install applications with software centre, or apt-get, they install automatically and do not provide you with choice of location
[13:23] <mosno> Mikero, ^
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> Mikero  start here http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/32474-a-windows-users-guide-to-linux.html
[13:24] <_raven> 11.10 no ssl access possible any more - what could be wrong?
[13:24] <__Alex_> Mikero: But if you want to manually install a script or somthing, put it in /usr/local/bin. You must do this as root, and you must make it executable
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> __Alex_  too scary for a beginner
[13:25] <Mikero> I do use software center en apt-get mostly. But PhpStorm is just a pile of files.
[13:25] <theTroy> Mikero: do you want to install it for all users, and have it accessible via terminal? or just run it locally from one user?
[13:25] <__Alex_> Mikero: Is there a "Makefile"?
[13:26] <theadmin> Mikero: Is there "README", "INSTALL", "Makefile", "configure" or "configure.ac" (or a combination of those) among em?
[13:26] <theTroy> __Alex_: doesnt need to have makefile if it is a source code rather than binary
[13:26] <__Alex_> I know, i'm just asking, theTroy
[13:27] <mi3> !cookie | st1 nikolja
[13:27] <Mikero> Instructions on the website are "- Unpack the PhpStorm-*.tar.gz file using the following command: tar xfz PhpStorm-*.tar.gz - Run PhpStorm.sh from the bin subdirectory"
[13:28] <theadmin> Mikero: Uh, just do that then?
[13:28] <Mikero> Which works but I want to keep things neat and organized ;) So I'd figured I'd ask.
[13:28] <theTroy> Mikero: that will depend on what the file does, does it run the phpstorm, or does it compile it and install it on the system?
[13:28] <theadmin> Mikero: Oh, you mean a universal place to put it to? Try /opt, that's what it's intended for (binary packages which unpack as one folder)
[13:29] <theTroy> anyone here can help me out with RAID0 setup?
[13:29] <theTroy> having issues with write speeds*
[13:30] <ye> what is RAID0?
[13:30] <diego> Dino
[13:30] <_raven> 11.10 no ssl access possible any more - what could be wrong?
[13:30] <theadmin> ye: If you don't know answers, don't try to help
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> ye  if your system is installed on more then 1 drive, it's called RAID
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[13:31] <diego> DIDSKO
[13:31] <veleno> hello. what is the suggested way to install openssl >1.0.0 on a ubuntu 10.10 LTS ?
[13:32] <oCean> theadmin: surely ye can ask questions that pop up when he reads the channel?
[13:33] <theadmin> oCean: I guess so, yeah, but it looked to me he was trying to help -_- Sorry, I'm in a state of deep... depression and madness right now so I can act a bit weird.
[13:33] <oCean> theadmin: might consider a break from IRC in that case.
[13:34] <theadmin> oCean: Rather not... Would feel even worse without helping people or people to talk to. Just... point it out if I do something strange.
[13:34] <theadmin> oCean: (like you did)
[13:34] <kitkat> hi I cant update or install program, when I try to install it says check your connection and when I try to upgrade It says something about untrusted sources
[13:35] <theadmin> kitkat: Any third-party repositories? Which Ubuntu version?
[13:36] <kitkat> theadmin, 10.4 and no third-party repositories
[13:36] <theadmin> kitkat: mk, try changing your server to main from the software sources tool
[13:37] <locsmif> Hi all. I put r8169 into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, but it's still loaded. How come?
[13:38] <rad_daemon> how do I mount a home directory from another ubuntu version? the home directory is encypted. I'm moving to another vm and I want to copy the files.
[13:38] <jrib> !encrypt | rad_daemon
[13:38] <oliphant> hi everyone.
[13:38] <rad_daemon> jrib, thanks
[13:39] <lancecherry> hi there
[13:39] <giu> ciao a tutti!!!
[13:39] <giu> !list
[13:39] <oliphant> How do I delete all the print-jobs in queue? I'm using cupsd and am a normal user.
[13:40] <oliphant> *from the command line that is.
[13:40] <carl-eric> How do I get Skype to use PulseAudio in oneiric? Under sound devices it only gives me a list of ALSA devices and Skype itself doesn't even show up in pavucontrol
[13:41] <MangledBody> Hi everyone, I have problem with nVidia GPU on Ubuntu LTS. It seems, that all games that need 3D acceleration experience problems, anybody can help me solve this?
[13:41] <carl-eric> MangledBody, have you installed nvidia-current?
[13:41] <MangledBody> carl-eric: Yes, latest version, last I tried before I came here
[13:42] <theTroy> MangledBody: I had an issue with xonotic nvidia and LTS version, it seems if I close all windows (close most, and minimise remaining) the game performs much better. Sadly I do not know an actual fix
[13:43] <MangledBody> theTroy: I tried it and looked on RAM and CPU, both about 90%
[13:44] <almoxarife> MangledBody: what is using up the ram and cpu, process?
[13:44] <theTroy> MangledBody: what game btw?, but as I said, I dont have a fix, I do have the same issue though
[13:45] <MangledBody> theTroy: Savage 2, Heroes of Newerth, Scorched 3D, Nexuiz is running without any problem
[13:45] <MangledBody> almoxarife: Just games, Savage 2 and Heroes of Newerth has problems on my PC
[13:45] <ETronik> Hi all, I'm in need of serious support :-) I'm setting my Mum's PC with Ubuntu, now, what's the best way to enable remote assistance from either another Ubuntu and from Windows ?
[13:45] <theadmin> MangledBody: Have you tried disabling compiz for the time the game runs (i.e. running it from unity-2d)? This seems to help with 3D applications quite often
[13:46] <theadmin> ETronik: Try TeamViewer, really easy to use, will get you going in no time at all :D
[13:46] <MangledBody> ETronik: I would try TeamWiever
[13:46] <almoxarife> MangledBody: what theadmin says is a good idea
[13:46] <carl-eric> ETronik, I'd love to use some open source things but I've found that TeamViewer (www.teamviewer.com) is just about the easiest
[13:46] <Trigger> good morning
[13:46] <MangledBody> theadmin: I had also issues with compiz, so I have disabled it for good
[13:46] <ETronik> 3 out of 3
[13:46] <ETronik> checking it uot
[13:46] <ETronik> out
[13:47] <almoxarife> MangledBody: can you pastebin your Xorg.0.log?
[13:48] <petrov> hello, i need help. I got a Ubuntu 11.10 with Gnome shell, my Ubuntu Software Center doesnt work. here is a terminal log:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/878901/
[13:48] <MangledBody> almoxarife: Can you tell me way please?
[13:48] <ETronik> do I install teamviewer from their website or... is there alternative way from software center or such
[13:48] <ETronik> ?
[13:48] <almoxarife> MangledBody: sure, open a terminal and first install 'pastebinit', do you know how to in terminal?
[13:48] <theadmin> ETronik: The website, it's not in the repos
[13:48] <petrov> PLEASE HELP WITH MY PROBLEM, UBUNTU 11.10 WITH GNOME SHELL AND SOFTWARE CENTER DOESNT WORK - http://paste.ubuntu.com/878901/
[13:48] <MangledBody> almoxarife: Yes
[13:49] <oliphant> What directory contains the printjobs queue? Is I cannot find anything that is humanly readable in /var/spool.
[13:49] <bazhang> petrov, no caps
[13:49] <theadmin> !patience | petrov
[13:49] <locsmif> petrov: please
[13:49] <ETronik> theadmin: thans
[13:49] <rad_daemon> petrov, don't shout
[13:49] <petrov> ok, i am sorry :)
[13:49] <MangledBody> almoxarife: Done
[13:49] <almoxarife> MangledBody: so once its installed, sudo pastebinit -i /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:49] <skypce> hello
[13:50] <skypce> i have troubles with mouse pointer, sometimes it moves very very slow , can you helpme please?
[13:50] <locsmif> petrov: I'll have a look at mu own lists
[13:50] <skypce> i am using ubuntu 11.10 and compaq cq56-126la
[13:50] <MangledBody> almoxarife: http://paste.ubuntu.com/878905/ This is it?
[13:50] <petrov> locsmif,  ok, i am waiting for your answer
[13:51] <almoxarife> MangledBody: should be,
[13:51] <MangledBody> almoxarife: Quite long... :)
[13:52] <locsmif> petrov: put the output of this command into a pastebin: ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists/
[13:52] <ETronik> re teamviewer, any particular security issue I should be aware of regarding setup ? will I need firewalls and such ?
[13:53] <petrov> locsmif, http://paste.ubuntu.com/878909/ here
[13:53] <theadmin> ETronik: Nah it's fine, maybe configure a permanent password though (so that you don't have to ask for the randomly generated password every time you need to connect)
[13:54] <ETronik> theadmin: ah good! thanks
[13:54] <almoxarife> MangledBody: are you running in this mode Setting mode "800x600_60" ??
[13:55] <synaptix> o/
[13:55] <MangledBody> almoxarife: Yes now, I changed it (habbit from Windows) I thought it would ease GPU load
[13:55] <locsmif> petrov: hmm, curious
[13:56] <almoxarife> MangledBody: so once its installed, sudo pastebinit -i /var/log/syslog
[13:56] <ye> i cannot help asking .... Is the MBR's code structure  like formal ELF32 program ?
[13:56] <MangledBody> almoxarife: But it didn't have any effect. I also cut the details to lowest
[13:56] <locsmif> petrov: ah, I think I get it
[13:57] <petrov> locsmif, oh, great !
[13:57] <ye> Is the MBR's code structure  like *normal* ELF32 program ?
[13:57] <MangledBody> almoxarife: http://paste.ubuntu.com/878915/ here
[13:58] <locsmif> petrov: there is an error inside security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_oneiric-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages regarding a single package where its metadata is missing a field, and software-center is breaking on it
[13:58] <carl-eric> Does anyone here know how to install 32bit libpulse on a 64bit oneiric system?
[13:58] <locsmif> petrov: that's what I would guess
[13:58] <petrov> locsmif, can you help me out to fix it?
[13:58] <locsmif> petrov: this might be a bit dangerous, but I would rename security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_oneiric-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages to security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_oneiric-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages.old (as root) and then try apt-get update
[13:58] <szal> carl-eric: any reason to do so?
[13:59] <almoxarife> MangledBody: not much to see on syslog
[13:59] <petrov> locsmif,  paste please a righ command
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> carl-eric  you may need ia32-lib something
[13:59] <MangledBody> almoxarife: Any help?
[13:59] <almoxarife> MangledBody: you got issues with pulseaudio?
[13:59] <MangledBody> almoxarife: No, I don't experience any issues with sound
[13:59] <locsmif> petrov: sudo mv /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_oneiric-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_oneiric-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages.old && apt-get update
[14:00] <locsmif> petrov: then try software-center again
[14:01] <mneptok> locsmif: files in ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists/ should never be edited manually.
[14:01] <almoxarife> MangledBody: I don't see anything abi-normal :)
[14:01] <petrov> locsmif, i have a pproblem http://paste.ubuntu.com/878918/oblem
[14:02] <mneptok> petrov: what is the error you get when running updates?
[14:02] <locsmif> petrov: err: sudo apt-get update
[14:02] <MangledBody> almoxarife: So how is it possible? :D
[14:02] <almoxarife> MangledBody: when a game a playing look at gnome-system-monitor or 'top' for what is eating up cpu
[14:03] <carl-eric> szal, the reason is I'm trying to get Skype to work with pulseaudio
[14:03] <carl-eric> MonkeyDust, good idea, i'll try that
[14:03] <theTroy> anyone can help out with RAID 0 setup issues? (slow resulting speeds)
[14:03] <locsmif> petrov: how's it going?
[14:03] <MangledBody> almoxarife: 7011 frames in 5.0 seconds, 6652 frames in 5.0 seconds - glxgears
[14:03] <almoxarife> MangledBody: I use nvidia on my htc, I have seen some gnome apps spike cpu to the 100% and I never figured it out, nothing to do with xbmc where I would of thought the cpu would have had the most usage
[14:03] <locsmif> Has your PC developed China Syndrome yet?
[14:04] <Sidewinder1> mneptok,  This is the error that petrov is getting: http://paste.ubuntu.com/878901/
[14:04] <MangledBody> almoxarife: Are you sure, I thought the main problem would be with GPU...
[14:05] <almoxarife> MangledBody: nope, cpu, the gpu was at 12-18
[14:05] <MangledBody> almoxarife: Oh, so the CPU is making trouble...?
[14:05] <szal> carl-eric: why do you think that that makes a difference?
[14:05] <almoxarife> MangledBody: I don't know, you would have to look while a game is going
[14:05] <carl-eric> the guys over in #pulseaudio suggested I install a 32bit libpulse for skype
[14:06] <MangledBody> almoxarife: OK
[14:06] <almoxarife> carl-eric: don't
[14:06] <carl-eric> almoxarife, why not? or rather, what else then? :-)
[14:06] <MangledBody> almoxarife: It's AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core
[14:06] <almoxarife> carl-eric: skype is crap-ware, google-chat?
[14:06] <MangledBody> almoxarife: 5600+
[14:07] <almoxarife> carl-eric: it may have more to do with skype than anything else
[14:07] <carl-eric> almoxarife, I can't get all my contacts on google chat (plus I'd rather avoid having a google account)
[14:07] <carl-eric> almoxarife, I know Skype is crap. but its's the only somewhat-reliably encrypted video call software I know
[14:07] <szal> almoxarife: not much of a use questioning people's choice of software
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> and google is big brother ;)
[14:08] <almoxarife> carl-eric: I don't see how 32pulse is going to solve it, skype loads all the 32bit stuff it needs anyway
[14:09] <ye> anyone know what is " impure executable"?
[14:09] <locsmif> petrov: ?
[14:09] <locsmif> ye: non-Arian
[14:09] <petrov> locsmif,  sorry i had dinne
[14:09] <almoxarife> carl-eric: pidgin runs skype, once skype is installed
[14:10] <carl-eric> almoxarife, after installing ia32-libs skype finally shows pulseaudio
[14:10] <ye> locsmif: what?
[14:10] <almoxarife> carl-eric: didn't they get loaded during install?
[14:10] <skypce> hi guys
[14:11] <carl-eric> almoxarife, apparently not
[14:11] <skypce> i have problems with mouse
[14:11] <skypce> when the notebook are many time power on the mouse response is very slow
[14:11] <almoxarife> carl-eric: so what you didn't have before I assume was 'multi-arch'
[14:11] <petrov> locsmif,  unfortunately it worked
[14:11] <petrov> locsmif,  * fortunately :)
[14:12] <locsmif> petrov: great
[14:12] <locsmif> I is vindicated
[14:12] <MangledBody> OK, thanks everyone, bye
[14:13] <petrov> locsmif,  thanks a lot~
[14:13] <petrov> locsmif, bb !
[14:13] <locsmif> ye: text and data segments non-separated
[14:14] <carl-eric> almoxarife, what is multi-arch?
[14:14] <roasted> Hello!
[14:14] <almoxarife> carl-eric: what you did, added 32bit libs to your 64bit machine
[14:15] <ye> locsmif: OK thx a lot
[14:15] <ye> i got it
[14:16] <carl-eric> almoxarife, oh, right. thanks :-)
[14:16] <almoxarife> carl-eric: initially I was thinking you were wanting to toss your installed pulse and somehow go to 32pulse
[14:16] <roasted> What all goes into samba speed transfer? Samba is crazy fast with my other laptop, but with my Macbook running Ubuntu, it's craz slow....
[14:19] <carl-eric> almoxarife, understood. in any case, skype works now.
[14:19] <almoxarife> carl-eric: cool
[14:19] <carl-eric> I'm open to suggestions to replace Skype of course - what i need is video chat that should be encrypted, so no simple SIP VoIP
[14:20] <cypr1nus> hello, is anyone using gedit + gSqlClient (plugin to psql) ? I cannot connect to database in any way...
[14:20] <none> hello
[14:20] <almoxarife> carl-eric: didn't know that it also scrambled the video
[14:20] <carl-eric> almoxarife, that's what they claim. Of course it's all proprietary so there's no real way to check that.
[14:21] <almoxarife> carl-eric: true, why would they lie?
[14:21] <none> hello my frieds
[14:21] <almoxarife> :)
[14:21] <zandt> removing vim-tiny removes ubuntu-minimal... looks like it might be important. installing vim-full/vim-nox without uninstalling vim-tiny... any conflicts I need to be aware of ?
[14:22] <carl-eric> almoxarife, as soon as I find an open source program that does encrypted video chat (most likely something doing ZRTP) i'll leave skype behind forever
[14:22] <none> what do you think about gnome 3
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> !polls| none
[14:24] <almoxarife> carl-eric: I am not a open-source zelot, I found that google-video did beat the pants off of skype, that's all, my dear mother insisted on having it installed so I did, I talk to her on google-video, I saw the difference, a big one
[14:24] <carl-eric> almoxarife, I don't trust Google anymore.
[14:25] <bull> New here...anybody got quick tips for dual booting with windows
[14:25] <almoxarife> carl-eric: me either, they are officially 'evil' but the rest were 'evil' first
[14:25] <bull> aside from live USB
[14:25] <ryannathans> what do you people suggest for ZFS on ubuntu?
[14:25] <carl-eric> Does anybody have any experience with Jitsi? That's supposed to do ZRTP for video
[14:27] <carl-eric> and while I'm at it getting used to Unity - is there a way to have the blinking notifications in the launcher (when an app needs attention) to be always visible and not disappear after half a second during which i wasn't looking?
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> bull  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot
[14:27] <belphy> Does anyone know how to connect ubuntu to the net without using wvdial??
[14:27] <none> ok
[14:28] <bull> Thanks...I'm also considering just blowing away an old MAC and install there
[14:28] <none> but im study about the preferences of user
[14:28] <belphy> Does anyone know how to connect ubuntu to the net without using wvdial??
[14:28] <none> im from colombia
[14:28] <belphy> :(
[14:29] <belphy> :(
[14:29] <spaceneedle> How do I disable the pop up messages at the bottom of the screen on Gnome Shell? Reminds of Vista.
[14:29] <prasys> ryannathans, i am using zfs-fuse
[14:29] <prasys> ryannathans, its not an efficient solution but it gets its job done nevertheless
[14:29] <ryannathans> prasys: okay, what's involved with getting it set up and updating it?
[14:30] <theTroy> having issues with RAID 0 write speeds, slower than even the speed of a single component of the set up. Using software RAID and disk utility with stripe size of 1MB.
[14:31] <ryannathans> theTroy: why such a massive stripe size?
[14:31] <airtonix> ryannathans: don't use a marvel 88SE6145 SATA II PCI-E controller
[14:31] <auronandace> !zfs | ryannathans
[14:31] <airtonix> ryannathans: you will have nothing but rage
[14:31] <theTroy> ryannathans: SD cards are in RAID setup
[14:31] <theTroy> setting lower stripe size should only slow it down more
[14:31] <ryannathans> airtonix: err, i'm plugging directly into the motherboard :D
[14:31] <airtonix> ryannathans: doesn't matter
[14:31] <airtonix> ryannathans: just make sure it isn't that controller
[14:32] <airtonix> 88SE6145
[14:33] <ryannathans> airtonix: it's a 88SE9172
[14:33] <airtonix> i had this problem on older versions of ubuntu, where the kernel keeps loading pata_marvel as the driver instead of the ahci one i need in order to get all my 4 2TB sata drives usable in zfs native mode
[14:33] <ryannathans> airtonix: owait, http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3892#sp that's it, i'm not sure
[14:34] <airtonix> ryannathans: installing zfs-native is supposed to be easier on 12.04, but it's also not that hard to compile the dkms drivers for 10.10 (we have it running in native mode on a 10.10 server at work)
[14:35] <airtonix> but zfs-fuse seems to be extremely easy to install
[14:35] <ryannathans> airtonix: awesome, when you upgrade kernel, does it break?
[14:36] <airtonix> ryannathans: you mean the zfs pool?
[14:36] <veleno> anyone knows how to install openssl (and libs) on a ubuntu 10.10 LTS ?
[14:36] <ryannathans> airtonix: the ZFS ubuntu kernel, on upgrade does anything for ZFS need reinstalling?
[14:36] <mneptok> ryannathans: FUSE is integrated into the kernel. ZFS support is not. that's why you get ABI problems using native ZFS when updating a Linux kernel.
[14:37] <airtonix> hence you'll have to recompile unless you use dkms
[14:37] <ryannathans> so when doing a regular apt-get dist-upgrade will there be any issues?
[14:37] <ryannathans> ajhh
[14:37] <ryannathans> ahh
[14:37] <mneptok> ryannathans: more precisely, the plumbing for FUSE is in the kernel by default.
[14:37] <airtonix> which does the compiling for you
[14:38] <st1> is there anything else documenting system activity other than syslog?
[14:38] <Shubham> hi
[14:39] <ryannathans> I'm off for tonight
[14:39] <ryannathans> bye.
[14:39] <Shubham> anybody there?
[14:39] <st1> hi
[14:39] <sacarlson> airtonix: my guess you can still install with sudo apt-get install openssl
[14:40] <airtonix> so is mine, must be the weather
[14:41] <st1> if system crashes without any sign in syslog, where can I look for the problem
[14:43] <sacarlson> st1: hardware crashes may not always leave behind as many clues as software bugs
[14:43] <auronandace> st1: overheating? power cut?
[14:44] <st1> I switched back to windows for a long time, and that didn't happen once
[14:45] <auronandace> st1: what were you doing when it crashed?
[14:45] <sacarlson> st1: over what time frame does your crash happen?  1 time per day, 1 time per hour, 1 time per month........?
[14:45] <st1> could be anything browsing web, watching tvrip or waiting for download
[14:45] <st1> 1 or twice per month average
[14:46] <st1> and I spend almost whole January in windows 7
[14:46] <auronandace> st1: was flash in use during the crashes?
[14:46] <st1> not everytime, I've set opera to not active plugin until I click it
[14:46] <sacarlson> st1: wow that far apart last problem I had like that was dram mem sim,  took me 6 months or more to isolate
[14:47] <st1> I've stressed ram under windows using memtest, no error found
[14:47] <Culiforge> running a minimal headless system on 11.10  for xbmc and xorg is pulling 85% of cpu.. I've reinstalled xorg, my ati drivers, turned off compositing (I think) through xorg.conf.... I'm kinda stumped.. anyone?
[14:47] <wilhart> what's wrong when nvidia flickers in my lcd tv second display?
[14:48] <sacarlson> st1: I tried mem test,  it was to far apart to detect,  but just random remove one and then the other the problem disapered
[14:48] <st1> well, I guess I'm stuck, I only have one piece 4G ram...
[14:49] <sacarlson> st1: swap with a friend that has 2gig sim?
[14:49] <st1> it's just a weird problem, in natty it was crash due to compiz, but in oneiric it's just black screen
[14:50] <st1> haven't tried that, it's too long time to wait for it to happen
[14:50] <sacarlson> st1: oh so how do you know it's crashed if the screen just goes black?  can you ssh in?
[14:50] <auronandace> st1: try running without compiz (i find compiz rather buggy so i use xfce)
[14:51] <st1> sacarlson network activity disappears, and keyboard mouse light disappears
[14:51] <optraz> how to run exe in ubuntu if possible?
[14:52] <auronandace> !wine | optraz
[14:52] <sacarlson> st1: that's a good sign in fact when mine crashes at times the keyboard light blinks
[14:52] <auronandace> optraz: better to find native alternatives if possible
[14:52] <optraz> !AppDB
[14:52] <st1> auronandace: yeah, I think I'll try that, never used 2d though, a lot of compiz feature I can live without
[14:52] <optraz> !AppDB
[14:53] <auronandace> st1: also are you using nvidia? if so are you using the nouveau driver?
[14:53] <st1> sacarlson: if having no clue can be a good sign ;)
[14:53] <st1> auronandace:  no, integrated ati, default driver
[14:54] <calico> Guys, I need help, my wireless connection is complete $#!^. It is OK some of the time, and some of the time is just slow as hell, and at some point dies. It goes thru that 20min cycle and then again it goes back to normal. I can't watch youtube videos or browse the web normally. On a windows machine the connection is perfect.
[14:54] <DanielAndarde> cant i via terminal open a VNC server for the screen which is already opened? I mean the X?
[14:54] <auronandace> st1: oh ok, i don't use ati
[14:55] <auronandace> optraz: what exe file are you trying to run?
[14:55] <sacarlson> st1: well I mean it sounds like it really crashed as the keyboard lights seem to become unresponsive in a real crash and sometimes blink
[14:55] <st1> auronandace: I just remembered I crashed once under gnome shell too, does that use 3D rendering?
[14:55] <auronandace> st1: yes
[14:55] <optraz> auronandace: it is a applicatino from vworker.com
[14:56] <auronandace> optraz: what does it do? can you find a native alternative?
[14:56] <carl-eric> calico, what hardware is it?
[14:56] <st1> well thanks you two, I think I'll try unity-2d, maybe precise beta
[14:57] <auronandace> st1: expect bugs in beta
[14:57] <st1> but kernel should be newer right? auronandace
[14:58] <wabs> Hey guys, do you help with Kubuntu in here or is that another channel?
[14:58] <optraz> auronandace: it is a application to track the time, idont think there is any alternative as it is made and from vworker.com
[14:58] <Shubham> when ubuntu 12.04 going to be released?
[14:58] <auronandace> st1: yes, and 12.04 is supported in #ubuntu+1 untill its released
[14:58] <sacarlson> calico: maybe dns?  can you ping google.com at time of failure does it at least return an ip number?
[14:58] <st1> Shubham:  end of april
[14:58] <oCean> Shubham: when it's finished (planned in april (year 12, month 04 = 12.04))
[14:58] <auronandace> Shubham: clue is in the name, 2012 4th month
[14:58] <tsimpson> Shubham: (20)12/04(April)
[14:59] <calico> carl-eric, atheros
[14:59] <Shubham> cant i use it before release date? just excited to use it.. :)
[14:59] <carl-eric> calico, then i don't know - i know from my own experience that some centrino and other intel chipsets don't like -N
[14:59] <sacarlson> calico: I think atheros is quite well supported and is that wired or wifi?
[15:00] <arunkumar413> hi, i want to install windows xp alongside ubuntu 11.04. Also i have other linux partitions. please help to install windows without affecting my ubuntu OS
[15:00] <auronandace> Shubham: yes you can but help and support in #ubuntu+1
[15:00] <calico> sacarlson, well ye I guess I'd be able to ping a site, there is connection but very slow and 90% doesn't load anything, 10% it downloads
[15:00] <calico> sacarlson, wireless
[15:01] <Shubham> #auronandace ok can u give me link to download it?
[15:01] <auronandace> !12.04 | Shubham
[15:01] <sacarlson> calico: oh ok wireless and is it encrypted or not?  still could be slow dns I guess
[15:02] <auronandace> Shubham: the link should be in #ubuntu+1
[15:02] <calico> sacarlson, what is it encyprted? the wireless has got no password if that's what youre asking
[15:03] <bullkram> i have lxde and i added a right click "open with" custom command line entrty.. how do i delete it?
[15:03] <sacarlson> calico: at time of failure you can also try ping your router to see if you have stable lan connection
[15:03] <Shubham> #auronandace ok thanks
[15:03] <auronandace> Shubham: no worries :)
[15:03] <sacarlson> calico: no password mean not encrypted
[15:03] <auronandace> arunkumar413: where are you stuck?
[15:04] <arunkumar413> auronandace: intial stage
[15:04] <auronandace> arunkumar413: made a partition for it yet?
[15:04] <calico> sacarlson, I had this problem even when I was trying different distros in vbox?
[15:04] <arunkumar413> auronandace: please help me to install windows along side ubuntu 11.04.
[15:04] <sacarlson> calico: you might look up your atheros device on your ubuntu version you now run and see if any others are having problems with it
[15:04] <prashant_123456> how to access ssh server behind adsl router ??
[15:04] <bullkram> install windows first
[15:05] <arunkumar413> auronandace: no, I'm a bit noob. tell me some commands so that i'll tell u the partition table. with that info u may suggest me a good partition to install
[15:05] <sacarlson> prashant_123456: you can posibly login to your adsl router and setup virtual host port for ssh port you us to come into your static ip ubuntu
[15:06] <oCean> prashant_123456: you have to setup port forwarding from the router to the machine behind it (PC?) Then you can have remote access
[15:06] <auronandace> arunkumar413: open gparted and show us a screenshot
[15:06] <prashant_123456> oCean, i did it
[15:06] <auronandace> !screenshot | arunkumar413
[15:06] <prashant_123456> oCean, but cannot connect
[15:07] <prashant_123456> oCean, i forwarded port 22 on router but still no help
[15:07] <Whiskey> anyoneon good on bash trap?
[15:07] <sacarlson> prashant_123456: maybe your isp doesn't pass port 22?
[15:07] <auronandace> Whiskey: the guys in #bash?
[15:07] <Whiskey> neee :D
[15:08] <sacarlson> prashant_123456: oh and you are running ssh-server on that system?
[15:08] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, by setting up dial up connection i can do it but with username and password saved on router cant do it
[15:08] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, yep
[15:09] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, do i need reverse ssh tunelling
[15:09] <arunkumar413> auronandace: i don't have the ubuntu live cd and my internet connection is a dial up. Still can we install windows along side ubuntu
[15:09] <sacarlson> prashant_123456: so if dialup works and present isp doesn't I guess your ISP filters port 22
[15:10] <sacarlson> prashant_123456: ya reverse ssh tunnelling or what I've also used is vpn
[15:10] <bullkram> in lxde is there a way to edit the right click menu? i accidentally added a custom command line entry and cannot figure out how to delete it.
[15:10] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, dial up means when i dial from pc and get a internet address
[15:11] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, dont understand
[15:11] <sacarlson> prashant_123456: I'm still not sure your running ssh-server then,  can you do a sudo netstat -pant  and verify you listen on port 22?
[15:11] <auronandace> arunkumar413: if you need to move/resize your ubuntu partitions you will need a livecd (i tend to use partedmagic)
[15:11] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, o
[15:12] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, ok
[15:12] <mi3> HI!
[15:12] <arunkumar413> auronandace: i don't want to resize/move any partition. i want to create a new partition and install windows xp
[15:13] <sacarlson> arunkumar413: so you have an unused partition to put it on then?  or add a disk
[15:13] <auronandace> arunkumar413: until i know your setup i can't tell if you need to resize/move partitions to make room for a windows partition
[15:14] <ayaka> http://paste.debian.net/159316/ ,how it come
[15:14] <mi3> AchlysEpithet?
[15:14] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, port 22 ok
[15:15] <sacarlson> prashant_123456: ok and port is forwarded and no firewall setup on ubuntu to stop it?
[15:15] <mi3> umm anyone seen AchlysEpithet?
[15:15] <dannel> No
[15:16] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, actually when i port forward popup a message
[15:16] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, since port 22 is used the dsl router ssh server port will be moved to 2222
[15:16] <sacarlson> prashant_123456: port 22 ok ?  I assume means you see a line like tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:80              <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN      3907/apache2
[15:16] <prashant_123456> yep
[15:16] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, yep
[15:17] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, since port 22 is used the dsl router ssh server port will be moved to 2222
[15:17] <arunkumar413> auronandace: this is my partition table: http://imagebin.org/202884
[15:18] <auronandace> arunkumar413: you already have 4 primary partitions, you'll need to get rid of one of them to install windows
[15:18] <sacarlson> prashant_123456: ok as long as port 2222 is forwarded then and also you are listening on port 2222
[15:18] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, that means
[15:18] <sacarlson> prashant_123456: so you do know how to setup the client side to talk on port 2222?
[15:18] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, please explain
[15:19] <calico> sacarlson, it turns out that the ubuntu doesn't like my wifi card, the only guy who said he resolved the issue said he installed this package and it worked: linux-backports-modules-wireless-maverick-generic      Do you know which package should I install, as there are like 8 of them all the same        http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/screenshot0311201205153.png/
[15:19] <arunkumar413> auronandace: which one is the primary partition. the 70GB one is the common to all my linux based distros. i don't want to touch it
[15:19] <sacarlson> prashant_123456: from what you said above is that you have moved ssh to port 2222 no?
[15:19] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, actually when i do port forward on router since port 22 is used the dsl router ssh server port will be moved to 2222
[15:20] <arunkumar413> auronandace: Also i'm not sure which partition is ubuntu 11.04
[15:20] <auronandace> arunkumar413: sda1 sda2 sda3 and sda4 are the primary partitions, sda4 is an extended partition inside which you have several logical partitions
[15:21] <auronandace> arunkumar413: sda7 is your 11.04 install
[15:21] <sacarlson> calico: no I'm not sure what works and what doesn't , sounds like you might of found someone with a solution, backport ppa isn't hard to try if available
[15:21] <arunkumar413> auronandace: sure?
[15:22] <calico> sacarlson, whats backport ppa
[15:22] <auronandace> arunkumar413: if this gparted picture is run from 11.04 then yes
[15:22] <ayaka> http://paste.debian.net/159316/ ,how it come
[15:22] <sacarlson> prashant_123456: oh ok so maybe with that conflict you should try manualy pick one that isn't auto moved
[15:22] <arunkumar413> auronandace: ok, i'm going to clear the sda1 and install windows xp. After installing how to make the boot loader detect the windows xp
[15:23] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, what to do?
[15:23] <auronandace> !grub2 | arunkumar413
[15:23] <sacarlson> prashant_123456: well before moving you could try wireshark monitor and see if your outside trafic even attempts to come in, if not try move to another port like 3333
[15:24] <arunkumar413> auronandace: i'm not sure which boot loader i'm using since installed various distros
[15:24] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, i need to install wireshark ?
[15:24] <auronandace> arunkumar413: sda1 is only 13gb, i don't think thats big enough for win xp
[15:24] <sacarlson> prashant_123456: ya that's just a package
[15:24] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, ok
[15:25] <airtonix> i'm kinda mad. can't disable pata_marvel
[15:25] <arunkumar413> auronandace: i'll clear other primary partitions and create a big single partition to accommodate xp
[15:26] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, i can see my port 22 forwarded to my server address on router
[15:26] <belph3g00r> hellllllllllo\
[15:26] <arunkumar413> auronandace: help to detect my bootloader. In which partition is the boot loader located
[15:27] <belph3g00r> u cant
[15:27] <belph3g00r> easy,destroy ur cpu
[15:27] <sacarlson> prashant_123456: oh ok and maybe can see the light blink on the ethernet port of your ubuntu box also when attempting to come it
[15:27] <theTroy> Hi, can someone help with RAID0? having issues with write speed, and if I do check array, it reuturns error that md0 is not idle
[15:27] <auronandace> arunkumar413: i'm guessing its in sda7 (your ubuntu 11.04 partition)
[15:27] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, wait while i do it again
[15:28] <auronandace> arunkumar413: unless its sda5 but that doesn't seem to mounted as /boot
[15:28] <arunkumar413> auronandace: how to be sure that the boot loader is in sda7 and it is of ubuntu 11.04
[15:28] <sacarlson> prashant_123456: if the light blinks at attempted ssh in from outside then the port forward on the router must be ok
[15:28] <auronandace> type mount
[15:29] <Pickleface_> hi
[15:29] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, on client : the remote host is actively refusing a connection
[15:29] <arunkumar413> auronandace: sda1 flag is boot. does it mean that bootloader is in sda1
[15:29] <Pickleface_> I can only login the guest account my normalaccount does not load properly?
[15:30] <auronandace> arunkumar413: not necessarily
[15:30] <sacarlson> prashant_123456: ok at the attempt time was any light on your ubuntu box blinking,  assuming no other trafic to that box at the time
[15:30] <Pickleface_> can anyone help me......
[15:31] <auronandace> arunkumar413: what is the output of: mount
[15:31] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, router blinks
[15:31] <sacarlson> prashant_123456: router blinks all the way to your ubuntu?
[15:32] <calico> "Unfortunately, acer laptops are not well-supported by the linux kernel." And why the F is that? When they're so popular? What does that mean, should I ditch the ubuntu now
[15:32] <sacarlson> prashant_123456: or do we have to run wireshark to verify?
[15:32] <prashant_123456> sacarlson, no need to verify
[15:32] <arunkumar413> auronandace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/879043/
[15:32] <dr_willis> calico:  it depends more on the chipset used than the compsny brand
[15:34] <auronandace> arunkumar413: ok, if you open a file manager and navigate to /boot, how much space does it say i free?
[15:34] <sacarlson> calico: and also seems even if they worked in older versions of ubuntu they don't always continue to work in newer versions
[15:34] <auronandace> is
[15:35] <calico> god damn, I spent the last 10 days installing, reading, trying unbelievable shit and what not to get this to work, but I think this is over the top now
[15:35] <arunkumar413> auronandace: 3.1GB
[15:35] <calico> the best part is that I can't start my windows now
[15:35] <ledzep_> has can sombody sent me the invite for linux channel
[15:35] <auronandace> arunkumar413: excellent, then yes your boot loader is in sda7
[15:36] <sacarlson> calico: wow 10 days I hope on more than one verison of ubuntu or even other linux destro
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> calico  i have an acer, what's the prob?
[15:36] <arunkumar413> auronandace: ok, now can i clear the sda1 though the flag is bootable
[15:36] <ledzep_> please sombody invite me for linux channel
[15:37] <auronandace> arunkumar413: you can but 13gb is rather small if you are going to put an ntfs partition there for xp
[15:37] <calico> MonkeyDust, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/139022
[15:37] <arunkumar413> auronandace: ok, now how to make bootloader detect my windows xp after installation
[15:38] <arunkumar413> auronandace: as i don't have the live cd
[15:38] <auronandace> arunkumar413: the /boot flag doesn't really mean much in linux, usually a windows partition is given the /boot flag
[15:38] <sacarlson> arunkumar413: grup-update should auto detect any bootable partitions and add them to the boot list
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> calico  wifi is not always stable, that's right, it's the reason why i don't use it
[15:39] <sacarlson> arunkumar413: opps grub-update
[15:39] <arunkumar413> sacarlson: after installing windows xp I'll not be able to boot to ubuntu
[15:39] <auronandace> sacarlson: after he has installed windows how is he going to boot ubuntu to run grub-update?
[15:40] <calico> MonkeyDust, I guy said "I was experiencing exactly this bug.
[15:40] <calico> I simply installed the package "linux-backports-modules-wireless-maverick-generic" and the problem was gone." do you think this could solve it
[15:40] <eemet> Use grub4dos to boot
[15:40] <sacarlson> arunkumar413: oh well normaly you install windows first then ubuntu as windows will comonly erase any other partitions
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> calico  no idea, doenst ring a bell
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> doesn't*
[15:41] <elijah> When using the "top" command, how can I scroll down/up?
[15:41] <sacarlson> auronandace: arunkumar413: you will need a bootable usb pen drive or cd disk or pxe boot or ??
[15:41] <calico> MonkeyDust, do you have an idea which one of these should I try http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/screenshot0311201205153.png/
[15:42] <auronandace> sacarlson: yes i agree but he said he doesn't have a livecd and its not really practical to get one
[15:42] <arunkumar413> sacarlson: no usb pendrive, cd disk, or anything
[15:42] <sacarlson> auronandace: and usb flash drive or pxe are those posible?
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> calico  maybe someone else knows, i don't use wifi
[15:42] <xsaidx> Hello guys
[15:43] <sacarlson> arunkumar413: no other computer system to setup a pxe boot server from?
[15:43] <auronandace> sacarlson: i wouldn't know about pxe, but he just said no to cd or usb
[15:43] <arunkumar413> auronandace: can we do this way. Install windows inside ubuntu.
[15:43] <bastidrazor> calico: install the 4th one down.
[15:43] <auronandace> arunkumar413: sure, vbox is great for that
[15:43] <iLogical> I am trying to emigrate from debian to ubuntu. I am using Unetbootin, how do I know that my usb stick is slash dev slash something or something?
[15:44] <antonello> hello
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> iLogical  plug it in and type mount
[15:44] <antonello> everyone
[15:44] <sacarlson> auronandace: at that point I would go to the store and get a new $3 usb flash disk then, or maybe a spare hard disk?
[15:44] <auronandace> arunkumar413: but if you look at your partitions you've only got 3gb free
[15:44] <arunkumar413> auronandace: not virtualization. just we do the opposite of install ubuntu inside windows. Install windows inside ubuntu
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> iLogical  or plug it in and type sudo fdisk -l
[15:44] <auronandace> arunkumar413: no thats not possible
[15:45] <antonello> i use ubuntu in virtual box
[15:45] <antonello> without problems
[15:45] <arunkumar413> auronandace: my RAM is just 1GB cant go for virtualization
[15:45] <auronandace> sacarlson: i don't know his circumstances sorry, usbs are cheap here in the uk too
[15:46] <antonello> i use it with 2gb of ram in virtualization
[15:46] <iLogical> /dev/sdb on /media/PENDRIVE type vfat  ?
[15:46] <iLogical> /dev/sdb?
[15:46] <antonello> and other 3 for windows
[15:46] <antonello> ???
[15:46] <cotterall> I've installed a lot of libs lately to compile different programs, can installing lots of libs (via apt-get) slow down my system?
[15:46] <iLogical> MonkeyDust,
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> iLogical
[15:46] <iLogical> yes?
[15:47] <auronandace> arunkumar413: well, like sacarlson says, i'd recommend getting a cd or usb then
[15:47] <arunkumar413> auronandace: thanks for the help. I'm leaving. bye
[15:47] <sacarlson> cotterall: I can't imagin how extra libs can slow anything down
[15:47] <cotterall> iLogical: /dev/sdb sounds right to me, I think unetbootin should only show usb devices in the dropdown list by default as well
[15:47] <arunkumar413> auronandace: ok, i'll come back here later
[15:47] <atchalak> hi
[15:47] <auronandace> arunkumar413: no worries, have fun :)
[15:48] <cotterall> sacarlson: thank you, I'm from Windows where installing lots of stuff sometimes seems to bloat the system and slow it down with time
[15:48] <atchalak> do smb see me ??
[15:48] <ledzep_> can somebody help me to lean BASh script
[15:48] <iLogical> cotterall, MonkeyDust  thanks
[15:48] <sacarlson> auronandace: even if pxe boot off lan is posible it can get more complicated on the first run
[15:49] <sacarlson> cotterall: well installing stuf is not libs,  if you run more apps and services at the same time that can start slowing things down
[15:49] <calico> bastidrazor, k i installed, rebooting, i pray to god this works
[15:49] <curiousx> salut a tout le monde
[15:49] <oCean> !fr | curiousx
[15:50] <curiousx> lol xD soy Argentino =P
[15:50] <oCean> atchalak: we can read you, welcome to ubuntu support
[15:50] <sacarlson> cotterall: you can monitor what is taking your cpu cycles and mem space with something like top
[15:50] <curiousx> i'm, Argentinan
[15:50] <curiousx> *i'm from...
[15:50] <oCean> curiousx: welcome. There is spanish support in #ubuntu-es
[15:51] <curiousx> i'm connected in ubuntu-es as well
[15:52] <carl-eric> Is there a way to keep flashing icons in the Unity launcher flashing, instead of them stopping after a few seconds?
[15:52] <cotterall> sacarlson: thanks again, so far it's all stuff like libffi-dev, libatasmar-dev so it sounds like I'm not bloating my system out with these.
[15:53] <elijah> When using the "top" command, how can I scroll down/up?
[15:53] <sacarlson> cotterall: no just using more disk space the -dev just adds some header files
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> elijah  use htop, not top
[15:53] <ouyes> when I am trying to use this command sudo modprobe rt5370sta I get an error FATAL: Error inserting rt5370sta (/lib/modules/2.6.
[15:53] <ouyes> net/wireless/rt5370sta.ko): Device or resource busy
[15:53] <ouyes>  does anyone know what is that?
[15:53] <curiousx> yep htop is color full
[15:54] <sacarlson> ouyes: maybe try sudo rmmod rt5370sta ; first
[15:55] <ouyes> sacarlson, thanks but ERROR: Module rt5370sta does not exist in /proc/modules
[15:55] <sacarlson> ouyes: or maybe the other driver that uses it is still running
[15:55] <ouyes> sacarlson, ? then do you know how to stop it?
[15:55] <sacarlson> ouyes: there is the non sta version that might also still be running
[15:56] <sacarlson> ouyes: modprobe -l | grep rt53 ; see what we might see
[15:56] <atchalak> do somebody knows how to install warcraft 3 on ubuntu with wine please ??
[15:56] <infernal> Hello. Can anyone tell me how can i optirun boinc?
[15:56] <auronandace> !appdb | atchalak
[15:57] <ouyes> sacarlson, kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt5370sta.ko output
[15:57] <atchalak> ok thanks
[15:58] <sacarlson> ouyes: I guess it's running then why can't sudo rmmod rt5370sta ; stop it then?
[16:00] <auronandace> sacarlson: isn't rmmod used to remove a module from the kernel? and modprobe to load/unload it?
[16:01] <sacarlson> auronandace: that sound about write, but some devices need more time to settle
[16:01] <tenbill> yes rmmod it's to remove a module from kernel
[16:03] <sacarlson> ouyes: auronandace: since modprobe told him it was still busy I was looking to free the device
[16:04] <ouyes> sacarlson, thanks I get to reboot
[16:04] <sacarlson> ouyes: why?
[16:04] <ouyes> sacarlson, some other things, not about this problem
[16:05] <auronandace> sacarlson: i think the manpages say to use modprobe -r to unload it
[16:05] <sacarlson> ouyes: oh ok,  and mybe it's a blacklist thing as I've had with other rt devices
[16:05] <ouyes> sacarlson, should I blacklist something or?
[16:06] <kaNNib^L> hi i can not burn cds on my ubuntu it says it can not change from mp3 to wav it was all gud and suddenly it stops working i burt couple of cds before now i cant can u help me out please how can i solve this issue
[16:07] <sacarlson> auronandace: yes I also see that recomended in the man rmmod page,  but it's worked for me in the past, don't recall myself ever using the modprobe -r
[16:08] <auronandace> sacarlson: can't say i have much experience with modprobe myself (yay, i'm learning)
[16:08] <sacarlson> auronandace: ya modprobe -r looks better since it also pulls other modules that depend on the one you remove
[16:08] <curiousx> kaNNib^L: make a directory and put all the archives you want to burn
[16:08] <auronandace> sacarlson: ah, cool
[16:09] <Hopsyy> hey, how do I mount my HDD?
[16:10] <Fyodorovna> Hopsyy, can be done in a terminal but it may show in the left panel of home or look in the disk utility
[16:10] <Hopsyy> Fyodorovna: how do I do that in terminal?
[16:10] <sacarlson> Hopsyy:  mkdir /mnt ; mount /dev/sdx /mnt ;  or if it's in fstab you can mount with nautilus
[16:10] <Hopsyy> my HDD has some bad sectors Fyodorovna
[16:11] <Fyodorovna> Hopsyy, 666
[16:11] <sacarlson> Hopsyy: if it has bad sectors you don't want to mount it you want to run fsk on it
[16:11] <Fyodorovna> Hopsyy, doh I meant ^^^
[16:11] <Hopsyy>  /mnt/ is empty
[16:12] <kaNNib^L> curiousx: bro the thing is it says it can not change the mp3 to wav it want wave file it cant convert k3b
[16:12] <curiousx> ok, make a directory and put all the stuff you want to burn
[16:13] <kaNNib^L> ok
[16:13] <Hopsyy> I cant find anything in /mnt/, disk utility shows 2 HDD
[16:13] <kaNNib^L> i will checl
[16:13] <Hopsyy> sacarlson: what should I do now :(
[16:13] <auronandace> Hopsyy: most stuff is automatically mounted under /media
[16:13] <curiousx> let sey, do: mkdir $HOME/burn