[18:43] <epinky> !truecrypt | kuttans
[18:43] <kuttans>  i want to have the usplash to deal with that rather command line....if anyone having any idea how to do it then i will appreciate the help
[18:43] <wvd> kuttans: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1355912, if you want to reply later.
[18:43] <kuttans> epinky: im talking of all the things, including root and swap
[18:43] <kuttans> ok wvd
[18:44] <m0ar> kuttans: I'd like to point out that it's possible to deactivate the volume-icons from gconf-editor!  It's names volumes_visible and is listed under Nautilus, Desktop.. Idk if that's waht you meant or w/e
[18:44] <m0ar>  :D
[18:44] <elMariachi> Hi. Is there any documentation on how to set up 9.10 on a software raid?
[18:44] <DasEi2> hareldvd: yes , also prior
[18:45] <kuttans> m0ar: go to gconf editor and locate nautilus and preference under it, ther eyou will see a value named show desktop disable it and you are on your way
[18:45] <thebwt> I have both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop installed on my machine, I have gdm running in this x session, how do I open a second x session and start kdm in it? I know I use xinit somehow, but the correct syntax escapes me.
[18:45] <tdannecy> NETSPLIT!
[18:46] <Jamed> !raid | elMariachi
[18:46] <padhu> anyone suggest me good home financial accounting package
[18:46] <m0ar> kuttans: Well, my method worked fine? :D
[18:46] <DasEi2> !raid | elMariachi
[18:46] <tdannecy> padhu: I used a program called "HomeBank"
[18:46] <ardchoille> padhu: I use grisbi
[18:46] <kuttans> m0ar: play with ubuntu and learn more
[18:46] <ardchoille> !info homebank
[18:47] <ardchoille> padhu: There is also homebank
[18:47] <macaklinka> LjL: did you give up on me?
[18:47] <m0ar> kuttans: Well, it gives the same effect as yours, but only affects the volume-icons which is just what I asked for? Am I missing something?
[18:47] <padhu> homebank having debian package?
[18:47] <kuttans> ubottu: the link is about how to create hidden volume whereas i want fully encrrpted hard disk with a usb key and the key in the usb is encrypted with a passphrase
[18:47] <LjL> macaklinka: uh, i don't think i saw the link to your driver at all, with all these netsplits
[18:47] <ardchoille> padhu: grisbi and homebank are in the repos
[18:48] <kuttans> m0ar: no i guess
[18:48] <DasEi2> !brain | kuttans
[18:49] <padhu> ardchoille: Iam apt-getting now
[18:49] <tdannecy> NETSPLIT!
[18:49] <kuttans> i have a encrypted hard disk which is safeguarded by a key in the usb pen drive. the key is safe by a passphrase, but now i have to use the command line to enter the passphrase where as i want a convenient way that usplash ask me to mount the usb key and enter the pass phrase
[18:50] <macaklinka> LjL: http://www.avermedia.com/avertv/Support/Download.aspx?Type=Software&id=468&tab=APDriver
[18:50] <init[1]> hey deco !
[18:50] <nix_chix0r> sawp
[18:50] <deco> init[1]: \o/11
[18:50] <macaklinka> LjL: is this OK?
[18:50] <deco> nix_chix0r: \o/
[18:50] <nix_chix0r> o//
[18:50] <nix_chix0r> \\o
[18:50] <deco> \\o
[18:50] <init[1]> \\o
[18:50] <nix_chix0r> unf unf
[18:50] <Flare183> Quit it
[18:50] <deco> o//
[18:50] <nix_chix0r> sorry
[18:50] <deco> alksdf
[18:50] <deco> asfjiasjdfas
[18:50] <deco> djisadlfas
[18:50] <deco> dfjasdf
[18:50] <init[1]> deco: stop
[18:50] <deco> init[1]: stfu
[18:50] <nix_chix0r> don't wana get busted
[18:50] <macaklinka> LjL: or http://www.avermedia.com/avertv/Support/DownloadCount.aspx?FDFId=3216
[18:51] <Flare183> LjL: deco is spamming
[18:51] <netraty7> heya
[18:51] <LjL> Flare183: i noticed...
[18:51]  * Flare183 laughs
[18:51] <deco> blah 3
[18:51] <netraty7> where can i get some help round here? :)
[18:51] <nix_chix0r> blah 4
[18:52] <init[1]> ops . Deco is a spam bot :D
[18:52] <LjL> Flare183: why do you tell me that?
[18:52] <m0ar> netraty7: Type away
[18:52] <nix_chix0r> sexbot
[18:52] <Flare183> LjL: Ubottu is down?
[18:52] <tdannecy> netraty7, Just start asking!
[18:52] <LjL> Flare183: ubottu doesn't seem down
[18:52] <Flare183> Well with the netsplits and all its been kinda hard to tell
[18:52] <binni> what's javas equivalent to pythons pygame and pyglet? (can't seam to join ##java to ask this question).
[18:52] <freeride> please help, how to install PUBKEY CB2F6C86F77B1CA9 (not gui). thanks in advance
[18:53] <LjL> Flare183, in case you're a bit confused about this, i'm not an op.
[18:53] <nix_chix0r> freeride, rtfm
[18:53] <Flare183> LjL: Oh I thought you were
[18:53] <Pici> nix_chix0r: Thats not helpful, please don't do that here.
[18:53]  * Flare183 is sorry
[18:53] <nix_chix0r> sorry Pici
[18:53] <mhall119|work> freeride: wget it from somewhere then gnupg -import
[18:53] <DasEi2> Flare183: disable join/poarts messages
[18:54] <tdannecy> freeride, gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv CB2F6C86F77B1CA9
[18:54] <tdannecy> freeride, gpg --export --armor CB2F6C86F77B1CA9 | apt-key add
[18:54] <netraty7> ok so i tried skype on my new 9.10.... and the mic didnot work so i tried uninstalling pulseaudio and installing esound... ye... didnot work and i F-ed up my audio... can anyone help me whit the pulseaudio reinstall and skype maybe? :)
[18:54] <freeride> tdannecy
[18:54] <freeride> tdannecy thanks!!!
[18:54] <grawity> tdannecy: The Ubuntu keyserver seems to be still down :|
[18:54] <tdannecy> freeride, :]
[18:54] <tdannecy> grawity, :p
[18:55] <grawity> Eh, it's up. Good.
[18:55] <grawity> Btw, for future reference: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-key BLAHBLAH
[18:55] <grawity> Shorter.
[18:55] <netraty7> anyone? :)
[18:55] <Afrix> :o
[18:55] <tdannecy> grawity, does that take care of the "export" and "armor" part?
[18:55] <freeride> mhall119|work: thank you
[18:56] <tdannecy> grawity, i have no idea what they do, but they might be important...
[18:56] <mhall119|work> freeride: no problem
[18:56] <grawity> tdannecy: Well, not really. It imports directly into apt's keyring, doesn't reexport.
[18:57] <netraty7> can anyone help me reinstalling pulseaudio and geting skype mic working?
[18:57] <iceroot_> netraty7: why reinstalling? you have deleted it?
[18:58] <netraty7> iceroot: ye... xD
[18:58] <netraty7> iceroot: kinda... :)
[18:59] <iceroot_> netraty7: sudo apt-get install pulseaudio
[18:59] <netraty7> iceroot: :) thank u
[18:59] <netraty7> iceroot: can u help me get my mic working in skype...
[19:00] <richard> hello?
[19:00] <ortsvorsteher> !hello | richard
[19:00] <iceroot_> netraty7: i dont use skype, sorry
[19:01] <ortsvorsteher> netraty7, in skype settings you can change device for mic. did you tried it?
[19:01] <Guest1542> hang on
[19:01] <Guest1542> imgonna get an original nickname and brb
[19:01] <netraty7> ortsvorsteher: tried it... i only got one option and its not working...
[19:02] <ortsvorsteher> netraty7, your headset is working fine?
[19:02] <webbb82>  /msg NickServ identify
[19:03] <rcmaehl_sick> too many netsplits
[19:03] <always_smile> Hello everyone,hope you're all doing alright,anyone to let me know how to install windows xp beside ubuntu,ii want make sure I do it right way so I don't have any conflict or lose any data,thank you
[19:03] <netraty7> ortsvorsteher: ye... its working in evrything but skype
[19:03] <webbb82> hey what is the best unzip rar archiving app
[19:03] <netraty7> ortsvorsteher: i tried reinstalling it too...
[19:03]  * rcmaehl_sick likes quadbooting
[19:03] <webbb82> 7zip?
[19:03] <ortsvorsteher> netraty7, what you try to reinstall?
[19:03] <ortsvorsteher> ah, yes, skype ...
[19:03] <netraty7> ortsvorsteher: skype
[19:03] <tdannecy> webbb82, i like file-roller
[19:04] <netraty7> :D
[19:04] <the>  is among you
[19:04] <ortsvorsteher> netraty7, may you look at skype website, there will be some hardware which will work fine ( they say ) in linux
[19:04] <the> hello
[19:04] <the> back
[19:05] <ortsvorsteher> netraty7, sorry, i dont know another solution for you :(
[19:05] <netraty7> ortsvorsteher: thx ill trie it... :D
[19:05] <ortsvorsteher> netraty7, nema problema ;)
[19:05] <netraty7> ortsvorsteher: odakle si?
[19:05] <thomaz> pessoal
[19:05] <Pici> !en
[19:05] <ortsvorsteher> netraty7, i am from germany
[19:06] <netraty7> ortsvorsteher: nvm :D
[19:06] <thomaz> seguinte
[19:06] <ortsvorsteher> :)
[19:06] <thomaz> tem alguém ai que participa de projetos?
[19:06] <thomaz> na comunidade
[19:06] <icewaterman> why is there no more eclipse-cdt support in karmic?
[19:06] <Pici> !br | thomaz
[19:06] <the> I'm here to ask about how to add fonts. I can't find "defoma" and the location "fonts:///" doesn't work. Help?
[19:06] <always_smile> Hello everyone,hope you're all doing alright,anyone to let me know how to install windows xp beside ubuntu,ii want make sure I do it right way so I don't have any conflict or lose any data,thank you
[19:07] <czokokot> .'K
[19:07] <DasEi2> !fonts | the
[19:07] <czokokot> ,
[19:07] <tdannecy> always_smile, have you tried wubi?
[19:07] <thomaz> ué então isso aqui serve pra quê?
[19:07] <thomaz> ñ pode fazer perguntas aqui não?
[19:07] <tdannecy> !wubi | always_smile
[19:08] <Pici> tdannecy: /join #ubuntu-br    para ajuda em português
[19:08] <Pici> tdannecy: sorry, not you
[19:08] <the> nick/
[19:08] <the> anyone?
[19:08] <tdannecy> Pici, XD
[19:08] <Pici> thomaz: /join #ubuntu-br    para ajuda em português
[19:08] <skrite> the, do an apt search
[19:08] <the> tryed that
[19:09] <skrite> the, also could try the package ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:09] <skrite> it includes some fonts
[19:09] <the> what, the third party ones
[19:09] <always_smile> but I'm in ubutu and I need to install windows as dual system?
[19:09] <skrite> other than that, download font files and put them in a folder /home/user/.fonts    then in a terminal do fc-cache
[19:10] <the> is there any way to view the font list and add to it
[19:10] <skrite> the, well, like microsoft ttf fonts and such with the restricted extras package
[19:10] <the> p.s. im using heron
[19:10] <tdannecy> NETSPLIT!
[19:10] <pitput> hi, how can I kill the transmission process via terminal? I tried kill transmission, killall transmission, etc, but doesn't work.
[19:10] <Steil> killall -9 transmission
[19:11] <Steil> use the -9
[19:11] <the> Ive got the msttcorefonts package
[19:11] <Steil> -9 -9 -9
[19:11] <pitput> thanks Steil
[19:11] <the> but that auto installs
[19:11] <pitput> i'll try that
[19:11] <jmyers1> I'm trying to install drivers for my ATI Radeon HD 4850, and having all kinds of issues.  I did a reinstall of Ubuntu (after making a huge mess of my original install with package additions and downloads), and tried adding them doing the System>Administration>Hardware Drivers.  After my reboot, I got a bunch of error messages that I've typed into an Openoffice document, and when I try to restore my xorg.conf file, I notice there was NO bac
[19:11] <pitput> Steil, thanks a lot!!!
[19:11] <pitput> what does the -9 do by the way?
[19:12] <tdannecy> NETSPLIT!
[19:12] <trism> always_smile: generally best to install windows, then install ubuntu, because windows will destroy grub, although instructions to restore it can be found here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD
[19:12] <Pici> tdannecy: Please stop announcing the netsplits. Its causing more traffic in an already busy channel.
[19:12] <mhall119|work> pitput: -9 basically kills it no matter what
[19:12] <m0ar> trism: About that, how to update GRUB to V2? :)
[19:12] <mhall119|work> no safeguards or gentle terminations
[19:12] <trism> m0ar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Installing / Upgrading
[19:12] <pitput> mhall119|work, ahh i see. so i can basically use it with any other application?
[19:13] <mhall119|work> yup
[19:13] <pitput> mhall119|work, all right, thanks a lot!
[19:13] <m0ar> pitput: -9 means DO IT NAO, pretty much
[19:13] <mhall119|work> regular kill sends a signal (SIGKILL?) to the process, telling it to terminate
[19:13] <m0ar> trism: Thanks
[19:13] <always_smile> oh trism but I don't wish to lose the updates,the mangers I already installed for ubutu,it took me so long to do it,what shall I do?
[19:13] <mhall119|work> -9 just dumps the process without consent
[19:13] <pitput> m0ar, thanks. lol. that was funny
[19:14] <m0ar> pitput: Yeah, don't overuse it :)
[19:14] <pitput> lol
[19:14] <pitput> will something bad happen?
[19:14] <junruh> My friend has the game "Flight of the Amozone Qeen on Linux. Where can I download it?
[19:14] <mhall119|work> pitput: only to that process
[19:14] <Pici> junruh: sudo apt-get install flight-of-the-amazon-queen
[19:14] <trism> always_smile: you can still install windows, you will just need to restore grub afterwards, with the link in my previous message (assuming you are running a clean install of 9.10 that is)
[19:15] <Jamed> mhall119|work: afaik kill with no option sends SIGTERM
[19:15] <junruh> Thanks!
[19:15] <mhall119|work> Jamed: thanks, couldn't remember
[19:16] <junruh> My panels are away. How I can make it already on my screen?
[19:16] <jmyers1> would anyone have any idea why installing the drivers for my ati video card would cause errors concerning the usb ports?
[19:17] <kuttans> junruh: can you explain more pls
[19:17] <LordBurrito> kuttans: Well, I installed LAMP.  Same thing: http://localhost/info.php brings up a download requester and the same file renamed php_info.html produces nothing.  Ideas?
[19:17] <always_smile> trism I reinstalled a fresh copy of ubutu and I didn't remove the previous ,would you recommend strongly to deinstall ubutu  first?
[19:17] <marks256> how would one go about making something like DynDns (for personal use). I've got my own domain, but i'd like to have something like dynamic1.marks256.com or something similar. But i'd like it to work just like dyndns
[19:17] <kuttans> LordBurrito: seems your php module is not activated for some reason
[19:17] <trism> always_smile: you mean you installed two ubuntu's side-by-side?
[19:17] <con-man> !netsplit
[19:18] <junruh> When I start the computer, the panels aren't on the screen.
[19:18] <trism> always_smile: and the only thing I would recommend is to back up your data before you attempt to install windows, because messing with partitions can always cause problems
[19:18] <kuttans> i think somewhere you should have a add panel option ,. from there you can do it
[19:18] <LordBurrito> kuttans: Okay
[19:19] <wvd> So modprobe ndiswrapper tells me that there is no module called ndiswrapper, this is because the .conf file is removed from /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper - anyway to recover this? (i already reinstalled)
[19:19] <kuttans> you can check the httpd.conf and look for php module
[19:19] <kuttans> LordBurrito : it must be commented out there
[19:19] <LordBurrito> Actually, it's apache2.conf now, looks like
[19:19] <LordBurrito> (I'm sure there was a good reason for arbitrarily changing that.)
[19:19] <kuttans> LordBurrito: yeah may be .
[19:20] <kuttans> yeah yes, bcoz there is another server httpd
[19:20] <netraty7> anyone know how to boost the stupid mic in 9.10??
[19:20] <junruh> When I start the computer this morning, the panels aren't on the screen!
[19:20] <FLSTF> How do I change channel? I totally new to this. :-)
[19:20] <always_smile> trism do you mind PMing you,thank you
[19:20] <m0ar> netraty7: alsamixer in terminal, play with that
[19:20] <trism> always_smile: you can if you want to
[19:20] <m0ar> netraty7: Tab changes view
[19:20] <kuttans> junruh: are you using gnome or kde?
[19:20] <syk> FLSTF, /join #channel
[19:21] <junruh> kde
[19:21] <FLSTF> Syk....thanks.
[19:21] <bruenig> hmm
[19:21] <wvd> So modprobe ndiswrapper tells me that there is no module called ndiswrapper, this is because the .conf file is removed from /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper - anyway to recover this? (i already reinstalled)
[19:21] <kuttans> junruh: go to settings and there you can get that back, or else change desktop is also having that option i guess
[19:21] <kraitos> i need a video converter, can anyone suggest one?
[19:22] <marks256> Anyone know how i'd go about making my own DDNS server? something like dyndns.
[19:22] <LordBurrito> kuttans: The only mention of *php* under /etc/apache2 is in a sub-dir named "mods-available"
[19:22] <datacrusher> hello fellas! i got a lab that has no internet access, and i just installed ubuntu. the video resolution is fine, and the sound appears on lspci, but i got no sound when playing an mp3 file
[19:22] <junruh> Who I can get it back? When I click on panel, nothing is happen.
[19:22] <datacrusher> asks for plugins.. is there a way for me to download ubuntu codecs and put them there via usb?
[19:23] <oCean_> !resetpanel | junruh
[19:23] <kuttans> just hold on i will try to check with my own conf LordBurrito
[19:23] <xiong> I'm confused. I have an ext3 file system. Some tools tell me that I have used only about 20% of total disk space; others say over 60%. I don't know what to believe. I suspect the discrepancy is due to the ext3 journal; is that correct? How do I manage this, or is it unmanageable?
[19:23] <elMariachi> can anyone please tell my how i install grub to a raid partition?
[19:23] <lorenzosu> kraitos: ffmpeg if you're ok with command line
[19:23] <the> back
[19:24] <lorenzosu> I burnt a *data* CD in Brasero: I got two files a toc.bin and .toc how can I convert them to .iso?
[19:24] <oCean_> xiong: output of "df" will show the actual available space left
[19:24] <ascheel> I have a printing issue I can't resolve.  new cups setup.  'lpstat -t' shows 'Unable to connect to server' but 'lpstat -h localhost -t' works just fine.  Where do I change the default server it's connecting to?
[19:24] <kuttans> LordBurrito: there is one dir called mods-enabled
[19:24] <wvd> So modprobe ndiswrapper tells me that there is no module called ndiswrapper, this is because the .conf file is removed from /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper - anyway to recover this? (i already reinstalled)
[19:24] <kraitos> lorenzosu, do you know any other?
[19:24] <junruh> ubottu: Thanks, it is going!
[19:24] <kuttans> can you see the php5.load and php5.conf??
[19:24] <lorenzosu> kraitos: mencoder (part of mplayer)
[19:24] <LordBurrito> kuttans: Ah hah
[19:24]  * LordBurrito looks...
[19:25] <kraitos> lorenzosu, thanks for the help.
[19:25] <marks256> Anyone know how i'd go about making my own DDNS server? something like dyndns
[19:25] <kuttans> marks256 : they give you some sorta client application, you have to configure that and rest that application will take care of
[19:25] <crc32> How do I disable reverse DNS lookups on the client side of a new SSH connection. All the articles I keep finding refer to disableing on the server side. But yet on a wiretrace I see the client side of the connection makeing all the PTR queries.??? This behavior just started with Ununtu 9.10 and it causes like 13 second delays during initial authentication.
[19:26] <the> I found the file (usr/......) but the new font files  have no permission to be placed in the  directory, how do I over-rule the permission denied and should I?
[19:26] <marks256> kuttans, No, i mean i want to be the server
[19:26] <xiong> oCean_, Thank you. But -- if you'll forgive me -- I'm not sure what you mean by "actual". Is that with or without the journal? Can anything be done with the journal? Can I control its size? Does the journal grow constantly? If so, what will happen when the disk is full?
[19:26] <oCean_> crc32: why whould the client do a nslookup?
[19:26] <kuttans> marks256 : you can own a domain name . is that you want?
[19:26] <erUSUL> !fonts | the
[19:26] <LordBurrito> kuttans: Yeah, those two are symlinked to mods-available
[19:27] <crc32> oCean_: I don't know but I'm lookiing right at it. I suspect its new behavior where the Client Tries to determin the host name of the server.
[19:27] <kuttans> LordBurrito: can you check the apache logs,
[19:27] <arand> the: if you are installing font and don't need them to be available to all other users on the system, put them in ~/.fonts/ instead.
[19:27] <jmyers1> Does xorg.conf get backed up anywhere besides /etc/X11?  Cuz I'm not seeing a backup file in /etc/X11
[19:27] <LordBurrito> kuttans: error.log mentions PHP5.<something>, that's all that's in there.
[19:27] <oCean_> xiong: journal should only be something like 3% i think. At least not over 5
[19:27] <marks256> kuttans, i already own a domain at a static ip address. But i'd like to be able to do something like dynamic1.mydomain.com and have it go to the dynamic1 ip address which is dynamic
[19:27] <LordBurrito> kuttans: I'll look again
[19:28] <marks256> kuttans, basically i want to make my own dyndns website, except for personal use only
[19:28] <kuttans> marks256: uh oh im sorry i completely mis understood
[19:28] <crc32> Its almost as if the client wants to store the host key of the remote machine by host name rather then IP is what I'm guessing.
[19:28] <xiong> oCean_, Then perhaps this oddity has nothing to do with the ext3 journal at all. What can account for the large discrepancy?
[19:28] <junruh> I'm a german. Is there a german Server?
[19:28] <erUSUL> !de
[19:28] <arand> the: putting them in /usr/... would make them available to all users, but for that you need to use sudo.
[19:28] <kuttans> marks256: you may need a dns server registered and then you can use it for the purpose you said
[19:28] <marks256> kuttans, it's ok :)
[19:28] <erUSUL> junruh: there is a german channel
[19:28] <wvd> Is there a way to basically throw everything off Ubuntu except itself and the windows HDD ofcourse?
[19:28] <the> k
[19:29] <marks256> kuttans, how would that work?
[19:29] <junruh> Ich bin a bayer. Is da a deitscha server!?
[19:29] <Flannel> LordBurrito, kuttans: php stuff is actually stored in /etc/apache2/mods-available/ (theres a conf and a load file), make sure those files also exist (as symlinks) in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[19:29] <oCean_> xiong: well, I don't know which different tools showed you the different output.
[19:29] <lorenzosu> I burnt a *data* CD in Brasero: I got two files a toc.bin and .toc how can I convert them to .iso?
[19:29] <the> so do it bia command line then
[19:29] <DasEi2> !de | junruh
[19:29] <the> srry *via
[19:29] <junruh> The name!
[19:29] <xiong> oCean_, One moment and I'll make a more exact report.
[19:29] <Flannel> junruh: This channel is english, if you need ubuntu support in german, /join #ubuntu-de
[19:29] <i_is_broke> !puregnome | wvd
[19:29] <Erilton> How do I configure my Internet wireless (wlan0) ip: <IP_ADDRESS> mask: <IP_ADDRESS> Gateway: <IP_ADDRESS> Primary DNS: <IP_ADDRESS>?
[19:30] <oCean_> crc32: are you connecting to the server by name or ip?
[19:30] <datacrusher> how do i install .mp3 plugin on ubuntu? i dont have internet acces on the ubuntu box
[19:30] <wvd> i_is_broke, first i'm using gnome, second I want _all_ files to be deleted and installed again (not only the ui)
[19:30] <kuttans> marks256: you will have to configure a dns server and you may need to generate an application for client side who will be constantly updating the forward and reverse look up zones as their ip changes
[19:30] <dassouki> how can i know which applications are using my input sound
[19:30] <arand> the: if you are just putting them in ~/.fonts (i.e. /home/username/.fonts) you can simply use "show hidden files/folders" in the file manager and copy it to there without having to use the terminal.
[19:30] <crc32> oCean_: I tried both.
[19:31] <LordBurrito> kuttans: Nothing interesting in the logs
[19:31] <Erilton> How do I configure my Internet wireless (wlan0) ip: <IP_ADDRESS> mask: <IP_ADDRESS> Gateway: <IP_ADDRESS> Primary DNS: <IP_ADDRESS>???
[19:31] <macaklinka> Ljl: gave up for today, I'll try my luck again tomorrow. Thanks for talking to me :)
[19:31] <marks256> kuttans, right. i figured as much. i'm just curious as to how the server its self would work
[19:31] <kuttans> marks256: i have only a outliner am not very deep in how to configure. so you may need to consult some techies on that line
[19:31] <i_is_broke> wvd, i know your using gnome and i didnt tell you to delete it either..that is how to get it back to gnome only and if thats now what you are wanting then you have to reinstall.
[19:31] <kuttans> LordBurrito: where you placed your info.php
[19:31] <the> the trouble is .fonts doent exist
[19:31] <oCean_> crc32: and both times client did name lookup?
[19:31] <crc32> oCean_: And I know ssh is doing extra authentication cause I can see it complaining sometimes that the ip address of a host changed which it never did priort to my 9,10 install
[19:31] <rakesh> is there any way.....
[19:31] <the> only .fontsconfig
[19:31] <LordBurrito> kuttans: The install placed it in
[19:31] <kuttans> LordBurrito: its in the /var/www i guess
[19:32] <LordBurrito> oops
[19:32] <marks256> kuttans, ok. thanks :)
[19:32] <LordBurrito> looking
[19:32] <crc32> oCean_: Yes I see it in wireshark.
[19:32] <LordBurrito> oh wait... Yeah, info.php is in /var/www, yes
[19:32] <oCean_> crc32: ok, i would not expect that
[19:32] <Erilton> How do I configure my Internet wireless (wlan0) ip: <IP_ADDRESS> mask: <IP_ADDRESS> Gateway: <IP_ADDRESS> Primary DNS: <IP_ADDRESS>???
[19:32] <crc32> oCean_: I figure this is supposed to be a new feature in SSH and I'm trying to disable it.
[19:32] <arand> the: I think you could just create it then, and it will automatically be seen by the programs looking for fonts.
[19:33] <crc32> oCean_: I woulden't either but the wire trace shows it happening client side. The time for disbelief is over.
[19:33] <kuttans> LordBurrito: hey are you having short open tags in that info.php file
[19:33] <xiong> oCean_, I should preface my remarks by saying that I have divided my drive into multiple partitions, with one of them being mounted at /home. This is /dev/sda6. Nautilus reports this as containing 13.9 Gb, with 29.0 Gb free. Other inquiries, such as df, report 51 Gb used and 29 Gb free. The discrepancy of 22 Gb is significant.
[19:33] <kuttans> LordBurrito: the php file only having <? ?> tags and not <?php ?> tags
[19:33] <LordBurrito> "short open tags?"
[19:33] <oCean_> crc32: well, the complaining about a new ip for a host is just the default behaviour, where ssh compares the ~/.ssh/known_hosts entries I think?
[19:34] <the> iand i have crtl-Hed it
[19:34] <xiong> oCean_, Sorry, my math is a bit fuzzy today. Discrepancy of 37 Gb!
[19:34] <LordBurrito> kuttans: No, it's <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[19:34] <netraty7> quit
[19:35] <oCean_> xiong: ah, yes indeed.
[19:35] <kuttans> LordBurrito : can you please restart apache2 and check once
[19:35] <Xenefungus> we are currently planning to strike back in #revenge4freenode +you all are welcome there :)
[19:35] <K|nG> Hi i wanna to ask you something it is a 3-th time i do this but not good Answer from you there, how i can clear the pppoeconf, and to setup a new one cus i had to change setup new user and newpassword?
[19:35] <crc32> oCean_:  Why am I seeing reverse lookups on the client side?
[19:35] <oCean_> xiong: unfortunately I don't have an apropriate answer to this :s
[19:36] <crc32> oCean_: And clearly these uinanswered lookups are the cause of the delay?
[19:38] <oCean_> crc32: tbh I never noticed that, and I'm on 9.10 since it came out.
[19:38] <K|nG> Hi i wanna to ask you something it is a 3-th time i do this but not good Answer from you there, how i can clear the pppoeconf, and to setup a new one cus i had to change setup new user and newpassword?
[19:38] <DasEi2> K|nG: sudo pppoeconf
[19:38] <K|nG> I do this
[19:38] <K|nG> but that show me i find 2 CONFIG
[19:38] <K|nG> i wanna to clear a 2 CONFIG
[19:38] <oCean_> crc32: so I understand your question. But I don't really have the answer.
[19:38] <K|nG> check this DasEi2 http://grab.by/19gd
[19:39] <K|nG> That's Show to me now i wanna just to Clear it ALL and put new ONE from a NEW START do you understand me DasEi2
[19:39] <freeride1> !akonaditray
[19:40] <LordBurrito> kuttans: I just did restart Apache and checked the logs.  I'll do it again.
[19:41] <DasEi2> K|nG: edit /etc/network/interfaces then
[19:41] <skinofstars> anyone fancy helping me troubleshoot an nvidia problem?
[19:41] <K|nG> DasEi2: remove all what have at Interface or what to do
[19:41] <K|nG> ?
[19:42] <wvd> So it looks like /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper folder has been deleted.. anyone knows how to fix this?
[19:42] <K|nG> DasEi2: remove all what have at Interface or what to do
[19:42] <xiong> $ sudo du -hs /home tells me: 'du: cannot access `/home/xiong/.gvfs': Permission denied'; then it proceeds to tell me the total usage of the directory (=partition). Do you suppose that this thing, ~/.gvfs, which cannot be accessed even by su, is the cause of disk usage discrepancies? What can this thing be?
[19:43] <DasEi2> K|nG: I think you know which interface you want to use, so comment the other one
[19:43] <cast> ls -ld /home/xiong/.gvfs says what?
[19:43] <K|nG> DasEi2: but to set it from a new start i can REMOVE all text it is in Interface right
[19:43] <K|nG> ?
[19:43] <youph> does anyone know if there is any advantage to compiling the ipw2000 driver for intel wireless vs. using the ubuntu package? im having rather consistent "firmware errors" that disconnect me from the network, i've read this driver is known for this issue but it's annoying enough to try just about anything
[19:44] <grawity> xiong: ~/.gvfs/ is a FUSE mountpoint. And FUSE disallows other users to access it.
[19:44] <grawity> xiong: (That includes root.)
[19:44] <DasEi2> K|nG: yes, but not localhost
[19:44] <K|nG> OK
[19:44] <K|nG> Thanks
[19:44] <K|nG> ILL restart my PC now and try to COnnect to internet ill hope to work it :D thanks DasEi2
[19:44] <DasEi2> np
[19:45] <grawity> xiong: ~/.gvfs/ is where GNOME puts its network drive connections, for compatibility with programs that don't support GVFS.
[19:45] <sam[cOe]> Hi
[19:45] <xiong> grawity, So I gather from a short study. But this doesn't explain how it came to be there, since it's not clear to me what the practical use of it is, in user terms. Nor do I understand if it can account for 37 missing Gb of disk space.
[19:46] <grawity> xiong: How it came to be here - A GNOME application auto-created it when you connected to a network drive.
[19:46] <sam[cOe]> Somebody knows a soft / script on Ubuntu to capture position of mouse pointer ?
[19:46] <erUSUL> youph: try installing linux-backports-modules-karmic
[19:46] <erUSUL> youph: it has newer wireless modules
[19:46] <youph> ok ty erUSUL
[19:46] <xiong> grawity, I need to study 'network drive'. That construction doesn't immediately parse.
[19:46] <youph> is that a repository or an actual package
[19:47] <LordBurrito> *sigh* split?
[19:47] <grawity> xiong: Eh, things such as FTP, and NAS, and such. Even if you have never used one, the ~/.gvfs/ mountpoint is still auto-created.
[19:47] <grawity> LordBurrito: http://announce.freenode.net/
[19:47] <kn100> anyone know of a low level formatting tool for linux, i have a disk that thinks its 16gb when it is really 4gb
[19:48] <xiong> grawity, I get enough from the quick gloss to think this has nothing to do with my disk usage woes.
[19:48] <LordBurrito> Graviton: Ah Christ.  Haven't some of these idiots anything better to do with their time?
[19:48] <grawity> xiong: The practical use - if you connect to a network drive (well, maybe "network directory") using GNOME, ~/.gvfs/ allows you to access that connection from non-GNOME programs.
[19:48] <youph> kn100, have you tried repartitioning it?
[19:48] <kn100> youph, yeah, it fails
[19:48] <kn100> the person who sent this POS to me has spoofed the number of sectors on it
[19:48] <grawity> xiong: And yes, it's really not related to disk usage. In reality, ~/.gvfs/ is empty, all contents are virtual.
[19:48] <xiong> grawity, Let's say it probably came up because I did some FTP; fine.
[19:48] <kn100> therefore reformatting just redoes the spoof. I need it to verify the number of sectors
[19:49] <Manifest> Hi, WINE won't allow me to open a program I was able to open before. Am I doing something wrong?
[19:49] <grawity> kn100: Have you tried repartitioning it? (With 'gparted' or 'parted' or 'cfdisk')
[19:49] <youph> what do you mean by spoofed sectors
[19:49] <xiong> So, where did my 37 Gb go?
[19:49] <kn100> grawity, gparted just formats it back to 16gb
[19:49] <kn100> youph, long story
[19:50] <grawity> kn100: You tried completely deleting all partitions and recreating them?
[19:50] <youph> kn100, can you write 0s with dd
[19:50] <kn100> youph, long story short, evil chinese scammers make a usb pen look like its 16gb, when it is really another size, so when you upload over that size it looks like its been uploaded but if you try accessing the files it just fails
[19:50] <kn100> grawity, ^
[19:50] <mostafa_> hey there I want to compile OTCL and when I type "sudo ./configure" it shows me this "configure: error: Installation of tcl seems incomplete or can't be found automatically.
[19:50] <mostafa_> Please correct the problem by telling configure where tcl is using the argument --with-tcl=/path/to/package"
[19:50] <dovik> hello ppl
[19:51] <grawity> kn100: Ah, in that case I really doubt there is any "low-level format" tool. They usually don't exist for flash-based drives.
[19:51] <youph> dd is as "low level" as i know for writing to block storage devices kn100
[19:51] <mostafa_> but I installed the tcl later .can anyone help me
[19:51] <dovik> can somebody tell me how to add acl to ubuntu  karmic
[19:51] <mostafa_> ?
[19:51] <Manifest> 1400 people in here and not one can help me.
[19:51] <kn100> grawity, i know there is a windows tool to do it
[19:51] <alexandros> man
[19:51] <kn100> that counts and verifies the sectors and then formats them all
[19:51] <Ryann> How do I make a flash drive I've inserted so it's not 'read-only'?
[19:51] <obscure> Hey guys, I have this new server. I have apache set up and I create web sites in /var/vhosts, I have also set up samba... what I would like to do is set up so me an the other devs can login via our normal user account do work right in /var/vhosts/* how can I do this?
[19:51] <ShortWave> I should eat something
[19:51] <matyd> is there a good tutorial on getting pjirc to work properly on apache2 webserver?
[19:51] <obscure> would I basically create a new group say "devs" and chown that section to that group?
[19:52] <dovik> nobody
[19:52] <dovik> ??
[19:52] <kn100> grawity, but installing windows is painful
[19:52] <Manifest> When I use terminal to run a program with wine, I get this: adam@adam-notebook:~$ wine actoolkit
[19:52] <Manifest> err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {dc1c5a9c-e88a-4dde-a5a1-60f82a20aef7} not registered
[19:52] <Manifest> err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {dc1c5a9c-e88a-4dde-a5a1-60f82a20aef7} could be created for context 0x1. Why?
[19:52] <Jamed> kn100: what about recreating the partition table?
[19:52] <youph> kn100, man dd dovik, SElinux
[19:52] <grawity> kn100: You could try 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=1024' or something (replace /dev/sdc with your flashdrive), that would completely blank everything that Linux can write to.
[19:52] <kn100> Jamed, that might work
[19:52] <Flannel> obscure: That'll work, yeah.
[19:52] <kn100> grawity, it can write to the fake sectors
[19:52] <Manifest> When I use terminal to open a program with wine, I get this: adam@adam-notebook:~$ wine actoolkit
[19:52] <Manifest> err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {dc1c5a9c-e88a-4dde-a5a1-60f82a20aef7} not registered
[19:52] <Manifest> err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {dc1c5a9c-e88a-4dde-a5a1-60f82a20aef7} could be created for context 0x1. Why?
[19:52] <mostafa_> hey there I want to compile OTCL and when I type "sudo ./configure" it shows me this "configure: error: Installation of tcl seems incomplete or can't be found automatically.
[19:52] <kn100> they just don't get saved, and Manifest stop pasting that, use pastebin.
[19:52] <mostafa_> Please correct the problem by telling configure where tcl is using the argument --with-tcl=/path/to/package"
[19:52] <mostafa_> but I installed the tcl later .can anyone help me
[19:52] <mostafa_> ?
[19:53] <grawity> kn100: But, I have a feeling this was done by reprogramming the chip inside...
[19:53] <kn100> grawity, no no no
[19:53] <kn100> theres
[19:53] <Manifest> kn100: it's small enough to paste here.
[19:53] <obscure> Flannel: ok thanks.
[19:53] <kn100> Manifest, it's also extremely annoying when pasted 6 times.
[19:53] <grawity> kn100: (Btw, I know someone who bought a "Made in China" 16 GB pendrive, and it turned out to be 1 _kilo_byte.)
[19:53] <youph> lol
[19:53] <Manifest> kn100: Well, if one of the 1400 people in this room would help me, there wouldn't be a need :\
[19:53] <kn100> grawity, that is total ownage
[19:53] <xiong> Nautilus says, of /home (: /dev/sda6) that a bit under 14 Gb are used. Other tools say 51 Gb used. But all agree there are only 29 Gb free. Where has my missing 37 Gb gone? How can I find out?
[19:54] <kn100> Manifest, people here help for free. if they can't help you, post on the forums.
[19:54] <Ryann> Manifest: then wait, we all need help and they're doing their best to help people.
[19:54] <laumonier> someone could help me i try to mount an iso files but it say that i use an ide sci driver and that i should use an sr0 or sda driver i understand nothing someone could help me?
[19:54] <grawity> Manifest: Have you considered the possibility that no one (of the 140 people who are awake) knows what's the problem?
[19:54] <youph> yeah graingert is probably right, im sure the flash drive uses some firmware to actually map logical sectors to its banks of memory, you may have to find out more about that specific drive kn100
[19:54] <youph> grawity\*
[19:54] <graingert> ?
[19:54] <Ryann> How do I make a flash drive so it isn't read-only and so I can put files onto it?
[19:54] <youph> srry wrong person
[19:54] <kn100> youph, i am telling you, its easy to fix on windows. I have had to do this before
[19:55] <graingert> youph, I am always right
[19:55] <youph> then why are you askin kn100
[19:55] <grawity> kn100: Would you happen to have the Windows program available for download? (I'm interested)
[19:55] <kn100> youph, because I haven't touched windows in years
[19:55] <Crash8308> How do you get your sound Icon back on Karmic/Gnome?
[19:55] <grawity> youph: He would need to install WIndows.
[19:55] <youph> wine?
[19:55] <kn100> grawity, yes, its HP format tool
[19:55] <Pici> Manifest: Wine specific errors are best asked about in #winehq
[19:56] <DasEi2> Ryann : own the mountdir to regular user, like sudo chown -R <UserHere> /media/YourMountpoint
[19:56] <kn100> the windows tool does the same thing as the linux one (gparted) but hpformattool actually checks the sectors exist
[19:56] <Ryann> DasEi2: I'm in a ubuntu 9.04 live CD session. could you tell me what I'd type then?
[19:56] <crc32> Not sure who I was talking to before but It seems mdns queries where holding up SSH some how. I set hosts to only use files and dns in nsswitch.conf and the problem disappeard.
[19:57] <Jamed> kn100: just run "sudo fdisk /dev/sdXY" and use the "o" command to recreate the partition table, then use "w" to write changes to disk, to test if recreating works
[19:57] <DasEi2> Ryann: enter just mount to get the current mountdir ..
[19:57] <c3l> how do I use the -Y option in stupid putty
[19:57] <kn100> Jamed, I will try it now
[19:59] <Tiders-> Is there a fix or workaround for the Remote desktop viewer not updating yet?
[19:59] <mr_engineer> hi, can anybody teach me how to run a 3d fullscreen game on a separate xsession?
[19:59] <grawity> Jamed, kn100: It's 'sdX', not 'sdXY'
[20:00] <mr_engineer> I get a directfb error
[20:00] <kn100> grawity, ;)
[20:00] <Jamed> grawity: kn100: oh right
[20:00] <kn100> i guessed that one :P
[20:00] <Erilton> How do I configure my Internet wireless (wlan0) ip: <IP_ADDRESS> mask: <IP_ADDRESS> Gateway: <IP_ADDRESS> Primary DNS: <IP_ADDRESS>???
[20:00] <kn100> there, new partition table apparently
[20:01] <kn100> now to format it using gparteed
[20:02] <youph> Erilton, are you familiar with Network Manager
[20:02] <kn100> Jamed, grawity, recreating the partition table didn't work
[20:02] <kn100> it just stays at 15.99gb
[20:02] <Sp3c1alK> I'm having trouble installing android on ubuntu, has anyone done this?
[20:02] <ascheel> Anybody know why 'lpstat' shows Unable to connect to server but 'lpstat -h localhost' displays the printers' statuses?
[20:03] <youph> lol kn100, is it really worth all the effort? cant you get flash drives for a few bucks now
[20:03] <Tiders-> Anybody found a fix for the VNC screen not updating?
[20:03] <kn100> youph, its a mp4 player :P touch screen :P
[20:03] <kn100> actually pretty good interface wise too
[20:03] <youph> ah
[20:05] <youph> kn100, id still try using DD to write 0s to the sectors and see if you can erase any of the drive's metadata
[20:05] <kn100> Currently running a complete 0'ing on it
[20:05] <kn100> youph, that
[20:05] <jaaad> hello
[20:05] <youph> yeah
[20:06] <grawity> youph: usually metadata is not accessible through /dev/sd*
[20:06] <youph> but it may or may not work depending on how the firmware interprets logical sectors
[20:06] <laumonier> someone could help me i try to mount an iso files but it say that i use an ide sci driver and that i should use an sr0 or sda driver i understand nothing someone could help me?
[20:06] <youph> ah yeah grawity
[20:06] <trism> Tiders-: do you have desktop effects enabled?
[20:06] <syk> o
[20:07] <kn100> damn ebayer
[20:07] <trism> Tiders-: I found that I don't get proper screen updates when I have them on (I generally disable them anyway, so it isn't a big deal to me)
[20:07] <jaaad> where might a program store its temporary data, for example, where does checkgmail store email information ?
[20:07] <Tiders-> trism On the server or client
[20:07] <m0ar> trism: While you're at it, how to get to the advanced effect manager in gnome? :)
[20:07] <kn100> i just want it to be its proper capacity
[20:07] <trism> Tiders-: on the server
[20:07] <Tiders-> Yes its on
[20:07] <kn100> m0ar, sudo apt-get install ccsm
[20:07] <m0ar> kn100: Thanks
[20:07] <youph> trism, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html
[20:08] <freeride> guys, help, how to launch deb in terminal?
[20:08] <youph> or sorry i mean laumonier, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html
[20:08] <trism> Tiders-: try disabling it that should probably fix it
[20:08] <laumonier> ty youth im gonne look at it
[20:08] <genii> freeride: sudo dpkg -i debfilename
[20:08] <m0ar> kn100: Package not found :o
[20:08] <freeride> genii thanks!!!
[20:08] <kn100> m0ar, aww, they killed that metapackage
[20:08] <dovik> how to add acl support to ubuntu karmin
[20:09] <dovik> can somebody help
[20:09] <Flannel> m0ar, kn100: compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:09] <dovik> ?
[20:09] <youph> dovik, enable SElinux
[20:09] <m0ar> Flannel: Ouch, what a name
[20:09] <m0ar> Thanks
[20:09] <jaaad> where do programs usually store their temporary data ? other than /tmp
[20:09] <dovik> ok
[20:09] <kn100> Flannel, in jaunty there used to be a metapackage that would redirect CCSM to that, guessing it got taken out :(
[20:09] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[20:09] <Sp3c1alK> has anyone installed android with eclipse?
[20:10] <Trebla> I cannot not get ubuntu 9.10 to open windows xp network
[20:10] <ginoscar> : /server irc.efnet.net
[20:10] <wvd> So, I executed this commands yesterday: http://bpaste.net/show/1430/ - and reinstalled ndiswrapper, however I cannot execute 'modprobe ndiswrapper' anymore: http://bpaste.net/show/1431/ << i think this is because it's removedd from the kernel. Anyone knows how to fix this?
[20:11] <wvd> So, I executed this commands yesterday: http://bpaste.net/show/1430/ - and reinstalled ndiswrapper, however I cannot execute 'modprobe ndiswrapper' anymore: http://bpaste.net/show/1431/ << i think this is because it's removedd from the kernel. Anyone knows how to fix this?
[20:11] <baskingshark> I want to modify my IPtables as such that I can enter from the outside to my server which is on subnet 192.168.0.x with IPtables forwarded to 192.168.3.x and connect to my desktop how do I achieve this through IPtables
[20:12] <freeride> what's a gui tool for installing deb???
[20:12] <zcat[1]> freeride:  gdebi
[20:12] <VCoolio> freeride: gdebi-gtk in /usr/bin
[20:12] <baskingshark> join #ubuntu.nl
[20:12] <grawity> freeride: gdebi
[20:12] <freeride> zcat[1]:, VCoolio thanks a lot
[20:13] <xiong> Ha! I have managed to get a clue to the missing disk space with this: '$ sudo du /home | sort -n' (should that ever prove useful to anyone else). It seems that all the largest files are in /home/.Trash-0/; I think they've been created by a backup utility.
[20:13] <k-e-v> hrm
[20:13] <Guest94374> Good day all, I'm Having a slight problem, when i minimise a window it dissapears but the program is still running. where does it minamise to?
[20:13] <gwince> xiong: You may find that sudo du -sk . |sort -rn will work better
[20:13] <grawity> xiong: ~/.Trash-*/ and in newer Ubuntu releases, ~/.local/share/Trash/ are the "trash" directories used by Nautilus (GNOME's graphical file manager).
[20:14] <gwince> Star at /
[20:14] <gwince> And drill through the directories
[20:14] <baskingshark> I want to modify my IPtables as such that I can enter from the outside to my server which is on subnet 192.168.0.x with IPtables forwarded to 192.168.3.x and connect to my desktop how do I achieve this through IPtables
[20:14] <dual> es
[20:14] <grawity> Guest94374: You probably accidentially removed the "window list" from your panel... right-click on empty space and re-add.
[20:15] <m0ar> What's the command for reconfiguring kdm?
[20:15] <jaaad> where do programs usually store their temporary data ? other than /tmp
[20:15] <Guest94374> yep that did it i thank you so much
[20:16] <cast> jaaad: memory
[20:16] <wvd> So, I executed this commands yesterday: http://bpaste.net/show/1430/ - and reinstalled ndiswrapper, however I cannot execute 'modprobe ndiswrapper' anymore: http://bpaste.net/show/1431/ << i think this is because it's removedd from the kernel. Anyone knows how to fix this?
[20:16] <Tristen> Hi all
[20:17] <xiong> grawity, I have emptied Trash -- believe me, when I saw tens of gigs missing, it's the first thing I tried. This is actually /home/.Trash-0/, not ~/Trash-0/. I need to be su to fool with it. In any case, the sticky fingers of the utility, 'backintime', are everywhere.
[20:17] <jaaad> mmm
[20:17] <Guest94374> I'm just learning this OS grew up with microsux products got tired of all the bugs. this is an awsome OS once ya learn your way around it
[20:17] <grawity> xiong: The '0' means that trash directory is owned by root :| You can nuke the entire thing safely, anyway.
[20:17] <Tristen> I have a live ubuntu cd   and I want to run it from my ram     is this possible?
[20:17] <xiong> gwince, You may be right. I tend towards cargo cult shell operation, but I fight against that.
[20:18] <Guest94374> running a duel boot tho still love my pc based games
[20:18] <xiong> grawity, Which leads to the question of how all that stuff got there in the first place?
[20:19] <xiong> grawity, 'Safely' may be subject to interpretation. I wonder if my hamfisted setup of backintime has got my backups going there, or if (more likely and better) these are just all the old *expired* backups.
[20:19] <grawity> xiong: A program that stores backups in ~/.Trash? Seriously?
[20:21] <Guest94374> is there a way to run pc games using ubuntu?
[20:21] <Guest94374> besides sun's virtual box
[20:21] <xiong> grawity, It's all coming into focus, now. ~/.backups is 10 Gb all on its own. The rest of the 'missing' free space is, presumably, trashed, expired backups; backintime is throwing them out without throwing them away.
[20:21] <juiceman5000> yay for issues! Once upon a time, I had a 'Network' icon in my places, and in my file manager. It is now gone. Can somebody shed some light on this?
[20:21] <dAlfa89_> !games | Guest94374
[20:22] <Witch-King-VT> why I cannot save sources.list even with sudo?
[20:22] <Pici> !wine | Guest94374
[20:22] <cast> Guest94374: yes.
[20:22] <Tristen> livece toram doesnt seem to work
[20:22] <cast> Guest94374: ubuntu runs on pcs
[20:22] <Tristen> livecd  toram doesnt seem to work
[20:24] <Guest94374> yes cast i am running a duel boot sys XP & ubuntu
[20:24] <mostafa_> what should i do with this error ?http://paste.ubuntu.com/342124/
[20:24] <Guest94374> but i want to get rid of xp
[20:24] <wvd> How do I reinstall Ubuntu? Can I just put in the live-cd and it asks me for a reinstall?
[20:25] <juiceman5000> Why wouldn't SMB://<IP_ADDRESS> work as a dir location?
[20:26] <zcat[1]> juiceman5000:  bacause there's no sharename?
[20:26] <zcat[1]> hmmm, no.. perhaps it should work
[20:26] <grawity> juiceman5000: Where exactly? In Nautilus? A particular program? Terminal?
[20:26] <Jamed> wvd: it wont ask, but you can run the installer again and tell it to use the whole hd to install (if nothing else is on it) ot you can delete the ubuntu partition with it
[20:26] <Jamed> wvd: *or
[20:26] <juiceman5000> Anywhere, terminal, X-Windows, applications, etc
[20:27] <juiceman5000> the location exists, i am on it right now on my windows box using just \\<IP_ADDRESS>
[20:27] <zcat[1]> juiceman5000:  it won't work anywhere except something that knows about smb... nautilus for example
[20:27] <wvd> Jamed: First time I let the installer make the partitions (highest option), if I also do this, will it overwrite the ubuntu partition? Or create a third (also got windows)
[20:27] <zcat[1]> other than that it should work though
[20:27] <m0ar> I was playing with Rotate Cube and found that the top and bottom parts is ugly yellow and has no desktops.  In terminal, accessing SMB/CIFS shares is usually done with 'mount.cifs'. GNOME and KDE both have their own libraries to support various networked filesystems - GNOME uses GIO/GVFS, KDE has Kio.
[20:28] <zcat[1]> Jamed:  or manually partition and tell the installer to reformat and use the old partitions
[20:29] <Witch-King-VT> why I cannot save sources.list even with sudo?
[20:29] <grawity> Witch-King-VT: How are you trying to save it?
[20:29] <m0ar> zcat[1]: I'm not doing if for the practical, only for the testing :)
[20:29] <brian24> hola
[20:29] <zcat[1]> grawity:  isn't smb in nautilus in the default ubuntu desktop?
[20:29] <brian24> mundo
[20:29] <eristote> bonjour
[20:29] <fission6> can i install zimbra on ubuntu
[20:29] <m0ar> zcat[1]: It's pure gay :D
[20:29] <Jamed> zcat[1]: yeah but i'd say thats a little more work
[20:29] <brian24> jajajja
[20:29] <zcat[1]> m0ar:  I think there was a plugin to put two more desktops on the cube..
[20:29] <ginoscar> : /server irc.efnet.net
[20:29] <grawity> zcat[1]: It is, kinda. GVFS is an integral part of GNOME, you need to install 'samba' manually though.
[20:29] <brian24> quien trabaja con hph
[20:29] <m0ar> zcat[1]: Oh?
[20:30] <Tristen> ah ok Ive just found the bugreport for the toram problem
[20:30] <BleSS> gedit - how to solve a problem with a plugin? 'Manage External Tools' is not showed in the tools tab
[20:30] <brian24> quien trabaja con php
[20:30] <doubt> hi. The question sounds silly but how to user arrays in dash?
[20:30] <doubt> *use array
[20:30] <grawity> zcat[1]: But again, GVFS only applies to GNOME applications.
[20:30] <syk> !es
[20:30] <Witch-King-VT> grawity, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lis
[20:30] <guntbert> !es | brian24
[20:30] <grawity> doubt: 'dash' as in the shell?
[20:30] <zcat[1]> m0ar:  the cube is just to attract doze noobs, for practical desktop switching there's super-E
[20:30] <ginoscar> : /server irc.efnet.net
[20:30] <Witch-King-VT> grawity, allways work until now
[20:30] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hello folks
[20:30] <doubt> grawity: yes
[20:30] <grawity> ginoscar: Stop, okay?
[20:30] <Sachse_Siechtum> I'm a new user in Xubuntu.
[20:30] <Tristen> ok  thanks all     byeeeeeeeeeee
[20:31] <ginoscar> : /server irc.efnet.net
[20:31] <doubt> I know the 'declare' keywords is gone
[20:31] <grawity> doubt: 'dash' is a clone of 'sh', NOT 'bash', and (as far as I know) it does not support arrays or any 'bash'-specific features.
[20:31] <zcat[1]> ginoscar:  try it with nothing (no : and no spaces at all) before the /
[20:31] <Sachse_Siechtum> and I have a problem with the login screen.
[20:31] <grawity> doubt: 'dash' was made as a very lightweight shell.
[20:31] <m0ar> zcat[1]: Nah, I have my perfect switcher <3  No, it's not the cube :D
[20:32] <doubt> grawity: thanks for information. Do you know any dash-centric manual?
[20:32] <doubt> All I found was about bash.
[20:32] <zcat[1]> m0ar:  multiple monitors and a chair with wheels?
[20:32] <guntbert> Sachse_Siechtum: maybe #xubuntu will help you better
[20:32] <darrend> doubt: man dash
[20:32] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok thank you
[20:32] <grawity> doubt: Everything that applies to 'sh' (Bourne Shell) applies to 'dash' too. They both have manpages.
[20:32] <fission6> anyone here use zimbra
[20:33] <grawity> doubt: (well, maybe not everything, but most of the things.)
[20:33] <grawity> doubt: Btw, is there a big reason for you to use 'dash'?
[20:33] <m0ar> zcat[1]: Baha, no
[20:33] <grawity> m0ar: My perfect switcher is wmii :D
[20:33] <m0ar> grawity: Mine was :D
[20:33] <m0ar> grawity: Then Multi-monitor kinda screwed me up
[20:34] <doubt> grawity: thanks, I was missing the point that dash is a 'sh'-compatibile. Well I installed some third party init.d script
[20:34] <zcat[1]> m0ar:  I like compiz; but the first thing I do is set four desktops wide and three deep and I only ever use the cube to impress windows users, most of the time I turn it off and just slide between desktops
[20:34] <the> is it possible to access root like a normal account, (albeit with sudo powers), or is the only way to use sudo in the command line
[20:34] <doubt> grawity: built for debian and they simply don't run
[20:34] <xk0rx> trying to get a TRENDnet TEG-PCBUSR gigabit PC card working.  On insertion, "pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: pccard: CardBus card inserted into slot 0", "r8169 Gigabit Ethernet driver 2.3LK-NAPI loaded", but "r8169: eth1: link down", "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready"  (same ethernet cable plugged into built-in NIC bring net right up).  Any ideas?
[20:34] <cast> the: yes.
[20:35] <cast> the: ubuntu disables root by default for some reason, but you can enable it again
[20:35] <grawity> the: yes. 'sudo -s' for a root shell, 'sudo -i' for a full login.
[20:35] <guntbert> !root | the:
[20:35] <zcat[1]> !root
[20:35] <m0ar> zcat[1]: Cube is gay and not practically useful, a real windows switcher is.
[20:35] <doubt> grawity: I know it is possible to switch back to 'bash' but I was curious. :)
[20:35] <grawity> the: And if you really want, then you can easily figure out how to enable root's password.
[20:35] <BleSS> gedit - does anybody has problems with 'Manage External Tools' ; it isn't showed in the tools tab
[20:35] <grawity> doubt: 'dash' is used for initscripts mostly because of speed: it's very lightweight.
[20:35] <guntbert> !noroot | the but
[20:36] <zcat[1]> grawity:  anyone who cannot figure out how to set a root password is exactly the sort of person who ubuntu intended to protect by not having one as default
[20:36] <the> ubottu, dnt wry, ive set up a root passwd, just have to access it, thts all, oh, and ty every1
[20:36] <grawity> zcat[1]: Point.
[20:36] <nikos1> can anyone help me with how to display albumart with squeezecenter ?
[20:36] <guyster> May I please ask a question about ubuntu sound?
[20:36] <nikos1> I put the album art in the album folder named cover.jpg
[20:36] <xk0rx> if no help here for setting up a an ethernet PC card, suggestions on other places to get help?
[20:37] <baskingshark> can someone help me with IPtables
[20:37] <guntbert> !ask | baskingshark
[20:37] <b33r> Hello I can't understand this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/342132/ can someone please tell me where I should put "-no-remote -ProfileManager" ? the info is in this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins
[20:37] <baskingshark> I want to modify my IPtables as such that I can enter from the outside to my server which is on subnet 192.168.0.x with IPtables forwarded to 192.168.3.x and connect to my desktop how do I achieve this through IPtables
[20:38] <the> p.s. root beer, mmm
[20:38] <nikos1> when I click on album cover I get location like this "http://localhost:9000/music//cover.jpg"
[20:38] <nikos1> what does // mean ?
[20:38] <guntbert> baskingshark: you will have to configure your router accordingly
[20:38] <baskingshark> guntbert: my port for the router is open thats not the issue
[20:39] <xiong> Well, FWIW: I recovered about 25 Gb of disk space by (as root) deleting the contents of /home/.Trash-0/; and there you have it, and thank you all.
[20:39] <guntbert> baskingshark: no, you must configure the router to forward packets to your host
[20:39] <jmyers> my video card has me wanting to climb a tower with a high powered rifle, and lots of ammo. :/
[20:40] <nikos1> anyone know what // mean in the line ?
[20:41] <baskingshark> guntbert: thats done this is my iptable script http://pastebin.ca/1716186
[20:41] <nikos1> http://localhost:9000/music//cover.jpg why //
[20:41] <Graviton> nikos1: That would seem to be an extra /, just remove it
[20:41] <nikos1> Graviton: ah, ok thx
[20:41] <guyster> I installed alsa 1.0.21 on my ubuntu jaunty system, and some of my sounds are distorted.  Especially a loud buzz when I launch stella, an sdl-based emulator.
[20:42] <Graviton> Possibly from a bad configuration somehwere (or bad coding)
[20:42] <xk0rx> where can I get help on configuring a network card?
[20:42] <mrxor> how can I make permament changes to /etc/resolv.conf? Sometimes I use a vpn and when I do I have to edit /etc/resolv.conf to add two namespaces but after reboot they are changed again and in the file it says this file is generated by resolvconf and will overwrite... but I can't figure resolvconf out
[20:42] <guntbert> baskingshark: sorry, I'm too tired for that tonight
[20:42] <ShortWave> Hey all
[20:42] <ShortWave> Quick question
[20:42] <ShortWave> I'm helping this person over the phone and she's having issues
[20:42] <baskingshark> guntbert: only problem is that the incomming ip is <IP_ADDRESS>  and I need to forward that to my second subnet but its not working
[20:42] <ShortWave> She can't get the liveCD to boot
[20:43] <Graviton> ShortWave: Is her BIOS set to boot from cd before hdd?
[20:43] <guntbert> baskingshark: if you don't get good answers here you maybe want to ask in ##networking
[20:43] <ShortWave> Graviton: yup
[20:43] <xk0rx> what's she trying to boot?
[20:43] <Graviton> Then it kinda sounds like a faulty download/burn process
[20:44] <ShortWave> It boots and gives her the menu
[20:44] <baskingshark> guntbert: the lines I added are the one on 50 51 91 and 160
[20:44] <Graviton> Oh, then I misunderstood you, where does it fail, then?
[20:44] <ShortWave> So I'm downloading the same thing she did to see if I can go through the process with her.
[20:44] <sgh> Hi. Have something happened to medibuntu? Skype is not installablbe any more :(
[20:44] <ShortWave> At the "Demo/Full installation" screen
[20:44] <guntbert> baskingshark: I already said I'm too tired for iptables tonight - sorry
[20:45] <jmyers> anyone here able to help me verify I have certain packages installed on my system for this ati driver to work?  I have no idea where to begin to check these out.
[20:45] <baskingshark> guntbert: np
[20:45] <antony> hi.  anyone knows which is the kde channel?  I have a problem with an emesene plugin and I want to ask something.    thanks
[20:45] <ShortWave> The available options are: "Reboot", "Install CD Boothelper", or "Reboot Manually Later"
[20:45] <Graviton> ShortWave: Hmm, strange
[20:45] <guntbert> antony: #kubuntu
[20:45] <antony> thanks
[20:46] <kacm88> Hey everyone, I have a quick question, I'm currently on Hardy Heron on my desktop, and I'm thinking on upgrading to Jaunty Jackalope, though I've been reading that its better to upgrade Hardy -> Intrepid -> Jaunty. I got a Jaunty LiveCD btw. Any advice?
[20:46] <sgh> kacm88: upgrade to karmic.
[20:47] <Graviton> ShortWave: Never seen that before, and I assume she's sure she got the desktop cd (not that it should really matter, they should all have an install/boot option)
[20:47] <ShortWave> jah
[20:47] <PFA> how can i get my ntfs partition to mount on startup?
[20:47] <cast> PFA: put it in /etc/fstab
[20:48] <kacm88> I've been reading lots and lots of post on the forums about people having troubles upgrading to Karmic..is it really stable?
[20:48] <PFA> cast: and how do i accomplish that :)
[20:48] <Graviton> !fstab | PFA
[20:48] <guntbert> ShortWave: demo/full install ? are you sure it is an ubuntu CD?
[20:48] <ShortWave> ah, I think I know what the issue is
[20:48] <sgh> kacm88: welll ... I think you should reinstall from scratch.
[20:48] <PFA> kacm88: i'm no expert, but i have tons of issues with it, personally.
[20:48] <PFA> Graviton: thank you
[20:48] <Graviton> You're welcome
[20:48] <PFA> and thanks cast
[20:48] <cast> PFA: vi /etc/fstab
[20:49] <kacm88> PFA: with Karmic right?
[20:49] <PFA> kacm88: yes
[20:49] <m0ar> Where do you set special preferences to the minimize-animation?
[20:49] <ShortWave> I think I figured it out
[20:49] <baskingshark> I want to modify my IPtables as such that I can enter from the outside to my server which is on subnet 192.168.0.x with IPtables forwarded to 192.168.3.x and connect to my desktop how do I achieve this through IPtables
[20:49] <Graviton> ShortWave: Do enlighten us :)
[20:49] <PFA> kacm88: it crashes all the damn time
[20:49] <guntbert> ShortWave: you made me curious - please tell
[20:49] <ShortWave> I told her to reboot
[20:49] <kacm88> PFA: exactly why I want to upgrade to Jaunty
[20:49] <ShortWave> Windows booted
[20:49] <ShortWave> THEN she put the CD in
[20:50] <Graviton> :D
[20:50] <ShortWave> she got an autorun menu
[20:50] <cast> baskingshark: not too hard, but requires reading
[20:50] <ShortWave> The whole "Install Ubuntu in windows" bit
[20:50] <kacm88> PFA: but Im not sure if I should go Hardy > Intrepid > Jaunty or I can go straight to Jaunty from Hardy
[20:50] <dAlfa89_> m0ar, compizconfig-settings-manager, there are a couple of options in it to adjust minimize effects
[20:50] <guntbert> ShortWave: ah - wubi
[20:50] <ShortWave> Now she's up and running I think
[20:50] <cast> kacm88: i doubt skipping releases during an upgrade is supported, though it could be
[20:50] <baskingshark> cast: check out my pastebin please http://pastebin.ca/1716186
[20:50] <sgh> kacm88: you should be able to upgrade directly.
[20:51] <PFA> kacm88: i'm pretty sure you can upgrade from any version but idk
[20:51] <virustb>  /msg NickServ identify chatter
[20:51] <PFA> virustb: whoops... might want to change your nickserv password
[20:51] <baskingshark> cast: lines I added are  50 51 91 and 160
 I wrote the force feedback layer and a few other parts of the directinput subsystem, some OLE stuff (which has probably all been replaced by now), and some comctl stuff
[20:51] <rcmaehl_sick> O_O
[20:51] <virustb> who do I do a whois ?
[20:51] <virustb> PFA lol not my pass :P
[20:51] <rcmaehl_sick> me
[20:51] <PFA> /whois whatever
[20:51] <bazz> so, is there any way to have notify-osd put my notifications at the bottom of my screen?  i do have a panel at the top, but only for minimized windows, everything else is at the bottom, and i want my notifications there too
[20:52] <wrapster> while trying to open any doc using ooffice.. i get this error... "application cannot be started, the user interface language cannot be determined"
[20:52] <Isuck> Hello.
[20:52] <kacm88> sgh: thanks a lot for your help
[20:52] <Isuck> Is this the ubuntu support channel?
[20:52] <sgh> kacm88: np
[20:52] <cast> why $EXT_NET?
[20:52] <trism> bazz: unfortunately no, it does support a gravity gconf key (/apps/notify-osd/gravity) but the only values that work are 1 (for north-east) and 2 (for east)
[20:52] <virustb> pfa and where is is output?
[20:52] <joako> I issue the command write lQuintana tty7 Welcome to the Jungle... and the response is "usage: write user [tty]
[20:52] <joako> " how do I send the message???
[20:52] <wrapster> can any one tell me what this issue is and if anyone has already faced this.. could you pls help me out.. its really sad that I cannot open any doc
[20:53] <guntbert> !hi | Isuck , yes
[20:53] <bazz> trism: wow, that's pretty terrible
[20:53] <trism> bazz: I agree
[20:53] <baskingshark> cast:do you have an idea?
[20:53] <fzrenzo> hi
[20:53] <virustb> pfa n/m found it
[20:54] <bazz> trism: this bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/347565) seems like it was the problem, but it's listed as fixed
[20:54] <virustb> PFA tu parles frances
[20:54] <Isuck> So anyone here good with dualbooting?  A lot
[20:54] <baskingshark> cast: oeps since I work with 2 nics
[20:54] <virustb> Isuck,  what did you do?
[20:54] <trism> bazz: yeah, it isn't a bug, this is the way the developers want it, see<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:54] <Isuck> I installed XP second...
[20:54] <trism> bazz: it may change for lucid though, have to wait and see
[20:55] <dorin> hy
[20:55] <fzrenzo> hi i have a problem games in ubuntu 9.10 Role bad especially the Mupen64Plus
[20:55] <Isuck> And with a second blank partition.
[20:55] <fzrenzo> helpme please
[20:55] <joako> If I type "reboot" a message pops up on the screen even in the GUI "Mesage from xxx bla bla. System is going down for reboot NOW" but when I use the command "write" the message is never sent to the user in the GUI
[20:55] <fzrenzo> hi i have a problem games in ubuntu 9.10 Role bad especially the Mupen64Plus
[20:55] <mhall119|work> Isuck: boot from a LiveCD, and re-install grub
[20:56] <fzrenzo> please
[20:56] <apocalypt> wrapster: in terminal "sudo apt-get install openoffice" try to install missing packages
[20:56] <bazz> trism: well, guess it's back to xfce4-notify for me :)  thanks for the info
[20:56] <dorin> if i create a partition (sda10) with cfdisk , how can i make it active in /dev/sda10 ?
[20:56] <fzrenzo> hi i have a problem games in ubuntu 9.10 Role bad especially the Mupen64Plus helpme please
[20:56] <Isuck> I am on a live CD at the moment. Else i would be stuck on XP. So how do i do it?
[20:57] <wrapster> apocalypt: pkg not found..
[20:57] <mhall119|work> Isuck: I think you need to mount the Ubuntu partition and chroot into it
[20:57] <Graviton> !restoregrub | Isuck
[20:57] <trijntje> Isuck, please keep your questions and awnsers on one line so people can read it without scrolling
[20:57] <mhall119|work> then run grub-install
[20:57] <Graviton> Hmm, clearly not
[20:57] <bazz> trism: also, seems like providing an option to move it wouldn't really be a problem, they can just have it default to the current behaviour
[20:57] <Isuck> Graviton i put that in on console correct??
[20:58] <wrapster> apt-get install openoffice.org works
[20:58] <BleSS> gedit - does anybody has problems with 'Manage External Tools' ; it isn't showed in the tools tab
[20:58] <dorin> if i create a partition (sda10) with cfdisk , how can i make it active in /dev/sda10 ? *
[20:58] <Graviton> Isuck: No, I was attempting to make the bot throw you a link
[20:58] <mhall119|work> Isuck: that was supposed to have the channel bot send you instructions
[20:58] <apocalypt> wrapster: try to install these packages openoffice.org-java-common openoffice.org-l10n-common openoffice.org-l10n-en-g
[20:58] <lainy> when i try to delete something in nautilus, i get the search form box pop up instead? any help appreciated
[20:58] <mhall119|work> lainy: wrong keyboard layout?
[20:58] <lainy> mhall119|work: but sometimes it does wrk
[20:58] <fzrenzo> hi i have a problem games in ubuntu 9.10 Role bad especially the Mupen64Plus anyone can help me?
[20:58] <Isuck> It didn't work.
[20:59] <mhall119|work> weird, changing keyboard layout?
[20:59] <lainy> mhall119|work: i'm pretty using the right keyboard layout
[20:59] <apocalypt> wrapster: ok if it works than i will be ok
[20:59] <lainy> i'm pretty sure i'm using*
[20:59] <mhall119|work> fzrenzo: can you be more specific?
[20:59] <Graviton> Isuck: I know, I seem to have forgotten the command
[20:59] <Mike_lifeguard> I'm trying to configure syslog to accept logs from my router, but I'm not sure what configuration file to edit - there is both rsyslog.conf and syslog.conf with seemingly the same contents. How can I tell which one is used?
[20:59] <mhall119|work> lainy: install any nautilus addons?
[20:59] <wrapster> apocalypt: ok..
[20:59] <apocalypt> wrapster: are able to open the documents?
[21:00] <baskingshark> cast: any idea?
[21:00] <Isuck> Ah, i understand. Sorry for this, i am not good with IRC so much.
[21:00] <guntbert> Mike_lifeguard: on karmic rsyslogd is used
[21:00] <mhall119|work> Isuck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[21:00] <wrapster> apocalypt: its still downloading
[21:00] <apocalypt> wrapster: ok
[21:00] <Isuck> Would this still work if my C:\
[21:00] <Mike_lifeguard> guntbert: ok, I'll double-check I've modified the right one...
[21:00] <fzrenzo> mhall119|work: ok install ubuntu 9.10 and emulators nintendo 64 not working properly the sound is choppy
[21:00] <Isuck> sorry my C:\\ isn't my primary drive?
[21:01] <fzrenzo> mhall119|work: and remove the compiz
[21:01] <mhall119|work> fzrenzo: is it only the emulator that has choppy sound?
[21:01] <vavar> why don't i have a ttyUSB on ubuntu?
[21:01] <mhall119|work> Isuck: C:\ is a windows-ism
[21:02] <mhall119|work> there are no drive letters on Linux
[21:02] <mhall119|work> you just need to find which partition is your Ubuntu partition
[21:02] <Isuck> I know. But i have an extrapartition is what i meant. and thank you very much.
[21:02] <grawity> mhall119|work: actually, a CP/M-ism.
[21:02] <mhall119|work> whichever
[21:03] <JB_> he fast question, any one knows if ubuntu 9.10 supports geforce 4 ti4200 and tv out
[21:03] <mhall119|work> Isuck: you'll have to find which partition is the one you want
[21:03] <flootenkerp> Anyone know any terminal commands for me to get my computer specs? Like MHz and RAM?
[21:03] <dj_> hey when i play dvds i only get some bad size video on vlc how to change it even when i play full screen i get half video screen
[21:03] <Isuck> Okay thank you.
[21:03] <wrapster> apocalypt: no
[21:03] <guyster> Can anyone here help me out with sound in ubuntu jaunty?
[21:03] <CShadowRun> flootenkerp: cat /proc/cpuinfo; free -m
[21:03] <wrapster> apocalypt: it still fails.
[21:03] <apocalypt> FloodBot1: look for "cat /proc/what_u_want
[21:03] <fzrenzo> mhall119|work: open if and sand a little, but these games worked fine in ubuntu 9.04
[21:03] <flootenkerp> ok, thanks CShadowrun
[21:04] <apocalypt> wrapster: with packages installed which i told u before?
[21:04] <fzrenzo> mhall119|work: yes
[21:04] <baskingshark> cast: ?
[21:04] <dj_> hey when i play dvds i only get some bad size video on vlc how to change it even when i play full screen i get half video screen
[21:04]  * yupyup waves
[21:05] <cast> baskingshark: yes? :)
[21:05] <baskingshark> cast: any idea?
[21:05] <apocalypt> dj_: push the right mouse button and change video size in the options u get there
[21:05] <cast> baskingshark: not so much
[21:05] <wrapster> apocalypt:
[21:05] <wrapster> apocalypt: yes
i change i still get half size video
[21:06] <fzrenzo> mhall119|work: is the emulator nintendo 64 but worked fine in ubuntu 9.04
[21:06] <Isuck> Okay i just want to make sure, it is sda1 correct? http://pastebin.com/d741e78a1
[21:06] <baskingshark> cast: all I did was I copied the lines that I use for ssh and modified them to port 4899 but obviously I am forgetting something
[21:06] <cast> baskingshark: did you reload the rules?
[21:07] <baskingshark> cast: yes I did the rules are reloaded after rebooting the server
[21:07] <m0ar> Is it possible to get Windows List in gnome to line up buttons in two rows?  It's possible in KDE i know, but in Gnome?
[21:07] <azanoth> Hi everyone: When I run ruby from the bash shell, it uses the ruby found in /usr/bin. I want it to use a different ruby - the path name of which is also in my PATH variable - how do I do that?
[21:08] <apocalypt> wrapster: try in terminal "sudo apt-get  --purge remove openoffice" then "sudo apt-get autoclean" then reinstall openoffice with "sudo apt-get install openoffice"
[21:08] <qwyeth> When I try to access my shared folder (shared by 9.10) from windows, a password is requested even though I clicked the box to allow guest, and no passwords seem to work
[21:08] <guntbert> azanoth: call it with the full path
[21:09] <Isuck> Okay i just want to make sure, it is sda1 correct? http://pastebin.com/d741e78a1
[21:09] <azanoth> guntbert: That works, but I'm looking for something more efficient. Is there any way to indicate that I'd like one PATH member to be used before another?
[21:10] <wrapster> apocalypt: nope.. still the same issue
[21:10] <guntbert> azanoth: you can change your PATH variable (look into .bashrc or .profile for that)
[21:10] <m0ar> My laptop takes like 30 seconds to wake up from hibernation, what may be wrong?
[21:10] <azanoth> Just swapped the order of appearance.  Thanks :)
[21:11] <dede_> salut
[21:11] <guntbert> m0ar: if you've got a lot of ram - probably nothing wrong
[21:11] <Isuck> Please someone? I just want to make sure, it is sda1 correct? http://pastebin.com/d741e78a1
[21:11] <apocalypt> wrapster: just a moment
[21:12] <Redache> Isuck: For what?
[21:12] <Isuck> Redache: For repairing my bootdrive. SDA one is the correct linux drive (I am on a livecd)
[21:13] <Redache> Isuck: It looks like it, did you Install Windows or Linux first?
[21:13] <cast> sda, you mean
[21:13] <Redache> Isuck: wait, it's sda2 'cause that's where the MBR is located
[21:14] <ubuntuguy> is anyone having troubles with opening administrative applications? I tried to open synaptic, update manager, and other apps that require administrative passwords. The problem is that the password dialog box won't open.
[21:14] <ubuntuguy> BTW, just updated to 9.10 and I didn't have this problem before.
[21:14] <cast> traditionally, the MBR is located at the start of the drive
[21:14] <Snausages> ubuntuguy: I've seen that.  In one case it did open but it was hidden, I didn't find it until hours later.  No clue why I couldn't raise it with the app switcher.
[21:15] <Redache> cast: The list shows sda2 as the boot drive, which means that must be where it's located
[21:15] <cast> having it at sda2 doesn't make that much sense, as the partition table is defined in it
[21:15] <ubuntuguy> How did you fix it?
[21:16] <com3> hi,,
[21:16] <jaunty> hi
[21:16] <com3> can someone help me with an issue i'm facing with grub
[21:16] <Isuck> Redache: I installed windows second.   How are you?
[21:16] <Isuck> Redache: and so sda 2 has all my info? You sure? Somone else just said it was one :/
[21:16] <apocalypt> wrapster: u really deinstalled openoffice? try it again but before u install openoffice again try this "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade"
[21:17] <Redache> Isuck: Since you installed Windows second it looks likle it installed the MBR to its own Parititon
[21:17] <com3> after installing some updates, my ubuntu stopped booting, i have both XP and ubuntu 9.10 insalled (installed ubuntu via the windows installer) and for some reason whever i try burning a new copy of ubunntu it wont boot into the liveCD mode can someone help
[21:17] <Isuck> Redache: Oh no, i have second parition as a filedrive so i can interchange files from windows to linux.
[21:17] <Snausages> ubuntuguy: never had to, I rebooted for some other reason and it wasn't a problem since then.
[21:17] <apocalypt> wrapster: if u have some probs with terminal commands deinstall it with synaptic package manager
[21:17] <Redache> Isuck: Ok, install it to sda1 then and see if it works
[21:18] <Isuck> Redache: Okay thank
[21:18] <Isuck> Redache: Okay *thanks
[21:19] <com3> anyone?
[21:19] <apocalypt> wrapster: if it doesn't work try this https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+question/77224
[21:19] <epinky> !elaborate| com3
[21:19] <DVA5912> how is it possible for my GPU to read 105C? wouldent that kill it? there is absolutly no stress on it, im not "gaming" at the moment..
[21:19] <com3> epinky, i keep on getting the grub menu whenever i try to boot to ubunut.
[21:20] <Redache> DVA5912: It's likley that the thermal sensors aren't working correctly
[21:20] <douglasawh-work> what's the default encryption if I use LVM guided off the alternate CD?
[21:20] <epinky> com3: change boot order on BIOS
[21:20] <cast> douglasawh-work: probably AES
[21:20] <DVA5912> Redache: well, it is a passive colling card. Nvidia 7300 SE... it was 116 in windows:)
[21:21] <Redache> DVA5912: It's more than likley that they're reporting the temperature correctly
[21:21] <Redache> DVA5912: Unless it starts artifacting or causing screen corruption I wouldn't worry too much about it
[21:21] <guyster> Hi all, I have a question about plugging in my mp3 player and having ubuntu recognize it.
[21:21] <com3> epinky: did that, I cannot boot from the live CD, i've managed to install it on an external HDD, it booted fine, followed the steps posted on some forum to fix my issue, but it didnt work. is there a way to fix the issue from windows?
[21:22] <mint> Hi! what is the command in terminal to see my memory for my graphics card?
[21:22] <epinky> com3: is it a laptop?
[21:22] <DVA5912> Redache: k. Im just not used to a GPu over 45... my onboard never once went over 45 in its life. even playing some of my high end games... too bad its deceased now ;(
[21:22] <com3> epinky yeah an acer extensa
[21:23] <guyster> When I plug it in, I cannot see it in the places menu, or in computer.  Almost like it fails to mount.  Any suggestions?
[21:23] <EricTheHax> I have now been told that my f610 is just this http://www.waltop.com/productDetail.asp?id=21 rebranded
[21:23] <EricTheHax> i actually agree
[21:23] <Redache> DVA5912: It depends on the Card, some of the modern GPU's are made to run at much higher Temps, the 7 series shouldn't be *that* hot though, unless you notice problems with it, then it's probably just reporting its temps wrong
[21:23] <com3> epinky to be honest i dont know what made it stop working. it just did one day
[21:23] <epinky> com3: are you sure boot order is correct?, DVD Drive must go first F12 or f10 to select  boot order at runtime
[21:24] <EricTheHax> how do i get this device: http://www.waltop.com/productDetail.asp?id=21    running properly in Karmic
[21:24] <DVA5912> Redache: yeah, see you point. I can put my hand on it and its not burning so yeah, faulty sensor. ok, so my next wuestion. Do you know what i can use to control my HD44780 LCD?
[21:24] <KiRiLoS> suddenly my hdd is full,i checked disk usage analyzer and somehow /log managed to use 9.7GB how do i delete what i need and why did this happen?
[21:24] <EricTheHax> yes i have been the googliest today as ive ever been, no go
[21:25] <ryu_> hello
[21:26] <obscure> Does anyone know how webmin stores information? I.E: under the apache webserver there are vhosts in there but how is this listing stored?
[21:26] <Mike_lifeguard> I'm trying to get my router to send logs to syslog on my server - how can I get those lines into their own file (ie log router stuff to /var/log/router.log)?
[21:26] <com3> epinky when i boof from the CD i get the ubuntu prompt and everything, i chose the first option, then it stoppes working giving me an error. it just freezes there, my question is regarding grub, when i go into the ubuntu folder, there is nothing under /ubuntu/disks/boot/grub the folder is empty,, what could have caused that?
[21:27] <DVA5912> whats better LCDd, or Lcd4linux
[21:27] <KiRiLoS> suddenly my hdd is full,i checked disk usage analyzer and somehow /log managed to use 9.7GB how do i delete what i dont need and why did this happen?
[21:27] <Isuck> I have a little question. A tut tells me to run /media/root/ and i should see a few lines. Console just tells me it exists.
[21:27] <apocalypt> obscure: i guess all u will find under /etc/apache2 and /var/www
[21:27] <epinky> com3: is it karmic(9.10)?
[21:28] <com3> yeah
[21:28] <cast> KiRiLoS: you delete with rm
[21:28] <cast> KiRiLoS: and there is no /log
[21:28] <com3> is there a tool besides grubfixer that could solve my issue?
[21:28] <epinky> !grub2 |  com3
[21:29] <KiRiLoS> cast, yeah i know,but how the heck should i know what does my system needs?
[21:29] <com3> ill check it out. thanks
[21:29] <cast> it's your system :x
[21:30] <exarkun> When I try to "activate" the NVIDIA proprietary driver, all I get is a dialog titled "Cannot change driver" that says "Reconfiguring X.org video drivers is not possible: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is invalid."
[21:30] <com3> epinky the thing is i cannot boot into ubuntu i keep on getting the grub screen, how can i fix it from there, and why did the files disappear
[21:30] <exarkun> If xorg.conf is invalid, it's not my fault, I never touched it.
[21:31] <HaskellLove> can you guys recommend me some book so i play with the ubuntu and learn how to debug stuff and use the kernel and maybe do some scripting in ubutnu with ruby or whatever? in other words tell me how to improve my ubuntu workflow as a computer scientist/ programer
[21:31] <exarkun> How do I get it to be valid?
[21:31] <KiRiLoS> cast, and just cuz its my system that means i know every single file that it needs in order to work?How did this happened anyway at the first place!almost 2 years ubuntu user and this thing happens for the 1st time cast
[21:31] <Isuck> redache: i got lost at the run /media/root/ but it doesn't give me the result i want. It just tells me it is a folder. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[21:31] <Isuck> redache: am i supposed to ls it or...?
[21:31] <epinky> com3: did you reinstall something in WIInDoS?
[21:32] <cast> KiRiLoS: 2 years, time to learn ;)
[21:32] <com3> epinky, nop,, i wasnt using windows when ubuntu was working, i just ran the update tool in ubuntu, restarted and the thing just stopped working
[21:32] <ShortWave> hrm
[21:32] <git__> the battery life of a netbook isn't that great ... at best 3 hours
[21:32] <apocalypt> exarkun: in terminal try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:32] <cast> HaskellLove: and you're a programmer are you?
[21:32] <exarkun> apocalypt: Then what?
[21:33] <dorin> how to mount a ext4 partition for a normal user acces
[21:33] <git__> has anyone gotten ubuntu working on a netbook?
[21:33] <HaskellLove> cast yes  i am
[21:33] <guyster> Can someone please help with a mounting issue in Ubuntu Jaunty?
[21:33] <HaskellLove> cast i am just new to linux enviornment
[21:34] <epinky> com3: where does boot process stop?
[21:34] <exarkun> apocalypt: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is unchanged after running that
[21:34] <obscure> apocalypt: well, I wrote a script to dynamically add vhosts... when I look at the webmin interface, those are not being listed
[21:34] <RedSingularity> Can someone tell me the next ubutnu Membership meeting date?
[21:34] <obscure> and i checked mysql, there is no db for webmin, so I am curious as to how I can add the entries.
[21:34] <Isuck> Okay someone has to come privately and help me fix my boot before i blow it out...
[21:35] <apocalypt> obscure: virtualhost are in your page under /etc/apache2/sites-available/
[21:35] <adalal> what happened lsu
[21:35] <com3> epinky after selecting ubuntu from the bootloader. it just runs the grub menu
[21:35] <obscure> apocalypt: yes.
[21:35] <adalal> Isuck: what's the matter?
[21:35] <apocalypt> obscure: site is enabled?
[21:36] <obscure> apocalypt: they are :) I am referring to the list in webmin under the apache servers section. When I create a vhost via a script apposed to the webmin interface, the new vhosts are not showing up in wemin
[21:36] <falcon> hi
[21:36] <obscure> so im wondering how that list is populated.
[21:36] <apocalypt> exarkun: try to get an older version of xorg. there are backups under /etc/X11/
[21:36] <adalal> Isuck: what's the matter?
[21:36] <epinky> com3: I mean the LIVECD, you will need it(to boot from LiveCD)
[21:36] <brian24> HOLA
[21:36] <brian24> MUNDO
[21:36] <mint> gazza: can I install linux mint first on a computer then windows?
[21:37] <adalal> hola brian24
[21:37] <brian24> HOLA ADALAL
[21:37] <adalal> mint:  installing it the other way around is recommended
[21:37] <brian24> trabajas con linux
[21:37] <m0ar> mint: You shouldn't
[21:37] <apocalypt> obscure: did u looking for that vhost entries in /etc/apache/site-available through terminal?
[21:37] <brian24> >/
[21:37] <mint> lol wrong channel but thanks guys
[21:37] <mint> may I ask why?
[21:37] <Norv> mint: you can, but windows will wipe your bootloader, probably, so you'll need to reinstall it
[21:37] <com3> epinky, the live CD halts on the ubuntu logo, with the line beneath it, when i press ecs i get a message telling me command line error #3 or something of the sorts
[21:37] <obscure> apocalypt: yep, I am viewing it as we speak.
[21:37] <apocalypt> obscure: did u try sudo /etc/init.d/apache reload
[21:37] <boss_mc> mint: if you do it your way round, the windows boot loader will blat all over GRUB and you'll lose access to your linux (this is fazable but is a pain)
[21:38] <RedSingularity> Anyone know the next Ubuntu Membership meeting date?
[21:38] <boss_mc> mint: *fixable
[21:38] <dj_> hey when i play dvds i only get some bad size video on vlc how to change it even when i play full screen i get half video screen
[21:38] <joaopinto> RedSingularity, check the wiki
[21:38] <adalal> mint: there's nothing wrong, except you can u will have to reinstall grub after install windows
[21:38] <mint> I see, how hard is it to fix it?
[21:38] <obscure> ahh
[21:38] <obscure> n
[21:38] <obscure> n*
[21:38] <obscure> wtf, nm
[21:38] <FloodBot1> obscure: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:38] <jiffe98> is there anyway to make a hardlink to a directory?  in freebsd I was able to mount it using nullfs but that doesn't seem to be an available option here
[21:38] <obscure> my stopped working for a second heh.
[21:38] <com3> epingky can i boot from VMware or something like that?
[21:38] <brian24> alguin de latiniamerica
[21:38] <mint> its all psychological.... I want linux to feel like my main OS, so I want to install it first
[21:38] <obscure> apocalypt: I figured it out, permissions in sites-enabled were not readable.
[21:39] <obscure> apocalypt: thanks for your help
[21:39] <brian24> hello
[21:39] <boss_mc> !grub | mint
[21:39] <cast> mint: don't bother with windows.
[21:39] <m0ar> mint: Then reinstall your bootloader from a liveCD, done
[21:39] <adalal> brian24: you can choose spanish while install ubuntu
[21:39] <Snausages> mint: yeah, do the windows install 1st unless you love doing stuff the hard way
[21:39] <epinky> com3: well, I will need the error to find out the problem, "something like that" is very ambiguous, don't know what you want to do, but every Virtual machine is isolated by default
[21:40] <RedSingularity> joaopinto, i did but there was no info.
[21:40] <apocalypt> obscure: ok
[21:40] <brian24> yes
[21:41] <ShortWave> Crap
[21:41] <ShortWave> I hate having to call someone and threaten legal action
[21:41] <apocalypt> obscure: np u solved it by yourself ;)
[21:41] <mint> Snausages: maybe I'll learn something new :)
[21:41] <exarkun> apocalypt: It claims they're all invalid.
[21:41] <mint> well thanks guys, thats all I needed to know
[21:42] <com3> epinky, hmm, ok, if i were to backup the /ubuntu/disks folder, then reinstall ubuntu, then place the backed up folders in its place will everything go back to normal?
[21:42] <exarkun> apocalypt: I'm in X now, by the way.  I'm not sure if that was obvious already.
[21:42] <exarkun> Seems weird that X is running and something claims my x config is invalid.
[21:43] <apocalypt> exarkun: i can't believe. did u restart the Xserver after moving xorg.backup to xorg?
[21:43] <exarkun> apocalypt: yes
[21:44] <newuser1> hi all, i am trying to install a ubuntu derivative in a partition (I have 9.10 installed on main partition, and anotehr 6gb partition for the derivative based on 9.04).  When I tell it which partition I want, it asks me to give mount point....what do I put in there / ??? (Also will this screw up my grub or menu.lst...or simply add and entry)???
[21:44] <apocalypt> exarkun: if u are in X all times it is not possible that u has X restarted
[21:44] <krezlyn> can anyone help me install better drivers for my redaon 9250 pro gfx card?
[21:44] <pc500> Why is it necessary to set a default GW in network manager?  Shouldn't this be optional?
[21:44] <exarkun> apocalypt: All times?  Not all times, but I'm in X now, and I was in X before.
[21:44] <exarkun> apocalypt: I ran 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' in between
[21:45] <newuser1> hi all, i am trying to install a ubuntu derivative in a partition (I have 9.10 installed on main partition, and anotehr 6gb partition for the derivative based on 9.04).  When I tell it which partition I want, it asks me to give mount point....what do I put in there / ??? (Also will this screw up my grub or menu.lst...or simply add and entry)???
[21:46] <apocalypt> exarkun: ok thats right. There should be the original Xorg in /etc/X11/ it must be the oldest file. the xorg u got through the installation of Ubuntu
[21:46] <brian24> alguien que hable español
[21:46] <DJones> !es | brian24
[21:46] <newuser1> si yo hablo espanol que quieres?
[21:46] <resno> !es | newuser1
[21:47] <newuser1> hey ubuotu up yours
[21:47] <brian24> tengo problema para levantar servicios samba
[21:47] <resno> newuser1: i thought you were asking for help LOL
[21:47] <newuser1> brian24 will talk in private channel.....espere canal privada
[21:47] <Skee-> .ro
[21:48] <resno> i am having a problem with unmet dependencies. when when i do apt-get -f install it fails out. how can i fix this?
[21:48] <exarkun> apocalypt: Okay, I'll try it.  But I tried a few already, including the .failsafe, all with the same results.
[21:48] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[21:48] <apocalypt> !xorg | exarkun
[21:49] <rcmaehl_sick> HOW DARE YOU MAKE A HACKING PROGRAM! http://www.adequacy.org/stories/2<IP_ADDRESS>056.2147.html <- linux is a hacking software
[21:50] <LjL> !ot | rcmaehl_sick
[21:50] <LjL> !caps | rcmaehl_sick
[21:50] <newuser1> hi all, i am trying to install a ubuntu derivative in a partition (I have 9.10 installed on main partition, and anotehr 6gb partition for the derivative based on 9.04).  When I tell it which partition I want, it asks me to give mount point....what do I put in there / ??? (Also will this screw up my grub or menu.lst...or simply add and entry)???
[21:51] <exarkun> apocalypt: Same result
[21:51] <apocalypt> !xorg | exarkun
[21:51] <Isuck> Can someone help me fix my bootsector? As my name states, I suck at doing console.
[21:51] <Craig`> chrome for linux, woot :)
[21:51] <exarkun> apocalypt: I guess you think I should read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution ?
[21:52] <newuser1> hi all, i am trying to install a ubuntu derivative in a partition (I have 9.10 installed on main partition, and anotehr 6gb partition for the derivative based on 9.04).  When I tell it which partition I want, it asks me to give mount point....what do I put in there / ??? (Also will this screw up my grub or menu.lst...or simply add and entry)???
[21:52] <apocalypt> yeah exarkun
[21:52] <resno> i am having a problem with unmet dependencies. when when i do apt-get -f install it fails out. how can i fix this?
[21:53] <exarkun> which means I get to write an xorg.conf by hand now
[21:53] <exarkun> something I have particularly little interest in doing :/
[21:53] <apocalypt> newbyx86: if it is for the whole system then yes. putt / in there
[21:53] <wagner> oi gente
[21:54] <spacial> saludos
[21:54] <apocalypt> resno: did u use the commands with sudo before?
[21:54] <boscop> hi. why do I get only crackling sound out of my speakers?
[21:54] <Snausages> boscop: lousy music collection?
[21:54] <m0ar> I figured, I have 4GB of ram that I rarely use all of, is it possible to pre-cache applications for a light-fast startup? :D
[21:54] <m0ar> Like a RAM-disk
[21:54] <Snausages> boscop: sorry, had to.  Chances are it's just a mucked-up sound driver.
[21:54] <newuser1> hi all, i am trying to install a ubuntu derivative in a partition (I have 9.10 installed on main partition, and anotehr 6gb partition for the derivative based on 9.04).  When I tell it which partition I want, it asks me to give mount point....what do I put in there / ??? (Also will this screw up my grub or menu.lst...or simply add and entry)???
[21:54] <boscop> m0ar: no, I'm making sound with lmms
[21:55] <resno> apocalypt: yes. this is what i get" Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:55] <resno>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime_4%3a4.2.2-0ubuntu1.1_i386.deb
[21:55] <resno> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[21:55] <resno> "
[21:55] <m0ar> boscop: What? :P
[21:55] <Billiard> exarkun: which type of graphics card do you have?
[21:55] <boscop> Snausages: it always worked! until now
[21:55] <resno> sorry for the split
[21:55] <spacial> no hay nadie
[21:55] <spacial> hi
[21:55] <exarkun> Billiard: nvidia
[21:55] <boscop> m0ar: sorry, I meant Snausages
[21:55] <crf> hi how do I eject a cd. The eject command doesn't work
[21:55] <stf> who
[21:56] <Billiard> exarkun: you can use nvidia-xconfig to generate xorg.conf, then modify the resolution parts if needed
[21:56] <resno> crf: unmount the drive then eject. or type eject on termianl
[21:56] <apocalypt> resno: a package from repository?
[21:56] <crf> resno, it isn't mounted
[21:56] <crf> and the eject command fails
[21:56] <m0ar> Is it possible to pre-cache chosen applications in unused RAM? :)
[21:56] <Billiard> crf: does eject give an error message?
[21:56] <crf> no, it just sits there
[21:56] <apocalypt> Billiard: does it work without the proprietary driver?
[21:56] <resno> apocalypt: yes. i was doing a regular update.  kdebase-runtime is the issue
[21:56] <Billiard> apocalypt: nvidia-xconfig?
[21:57] <apocalypt> yeah Billiard
[21:57] <Isuck> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows I am using this tut. Is it okay if when i ls /media/root/boot/ that i have tons of things other then the required?
[21:57] <Billiard> apocalypt: idk, just use the nvidia driver
[21:57] <resno> apocalypt: it still remains in my update manger, even though it should be installed already
[21:57] <brian24> www.nvidia.com
[21:58] <apocalypt> Billiard: i just asked for because he doesn't has the nvidia driver active
[21:58] <Billiard> apocalypt: oh, i dont know, cant he use the nvidia driver?
[21:58] <exarkun> Okay, I generated a new xorg.conf with nvidia-xconfig, going to try it now
[21:58] <apocalypt> Billiard: yeah because his xorg is corrupt
[21:59] <Billiard> apocalypt: delete it
[21:59] <Billiard> or back it up
[21:59] <apocalypt> resno: do u use the original repository?
[21:59] <resno> yes. havent changed of those.
[21:59] <exarkun> Exact same behavior. :/
[21:59] <resno> apocalypt: ^^
[22:00] <Billiard> exarkun: what is the behavior?
[22:00] <resno> apocalypt: yes. havent changed of those.
[22:00] <exarkun> I'm pretty skeptical that any of these config files are *actually* invalid.  I think there's a problem somewhere else.
[22:00] <exarkun> Billiard: When I try to "activate" the NVIDIA proprietary driver, all I get is a dialog titled "Cannot change driver" that says "Reconfiguring X.org video drivers is not possible: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is invalid."
[22:00] <Billiard> exarkun: delete your xorg.conf or move it somewhere else
[22:00] <exarkun> Billiard: This with about 6 different versions of xorg.conf, none of which actually seem to be invalid.
[22:00] <apocalypt> resno try "sudo aptitude autoclean" then "sudo aptitude update" "sudo aptitude upgrade" and then try it again
[22:00] <exarkun> Billiard: I did that already, and also tried with the .failsafe one, and several of the backups.
[22:00] <Billiard> exarkun: then use nvidia-xconfig
[22:00] <exarkun> Billiard: The behavior is always the same
[22:01] <exarkun> Billiard: I just used nvidia-xconfig and got the same behavior with that xorg.conf, too.
[22:01] <Billiard> exarkun: where are you getting this error?
[22:01] <exarkun> Billiard: System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers -> NVIDIA 185 -> Activate
[22:01] <Billiard> exarkun: you installed the drivers from the repository?
[22:02] <Billiard> exarkun: package manager
[22:02] <exarkun> Billiard: no
[22:02] <apocalypt> ha exarkun that's the crux
[22:02] <exarkun> Billiard: There's two drivers on the list, I just picked the newer one and hit the activate button.
[22:02] <Billiard> exarkun: do that, then move your xorg.conf somewhere else, then use nvidia-xconfig
[22:02] <Billiard> exarkun: download from package manager, then xorg.conf
[22:02] <JE_> #ubuntuforums
[22:03] <mezquitale> #forum
[22:03] <mezquitale> !forum
[22:03] <exarkun> Which package?  There's a lot with "nvidia" in the name.  nvidia-glx-185?
[22:03] <Billiard> exarkun: yeah
[22:04] <resno> apocalypt: nope. that didnt fix it
[22:04] <exarkun> That one's apparently installed already
[22:04] <apocalypt> resno: pastebin the error
[22:04] <resno> apocalypt: ok one sec
[22:04] <boscop> Snausages: my connection was away... do you know if it's because of aplay?
[22:04] <Billiard> exarkun: ok, then remove your xorg.conf, and run nvidia-xconfig, dont mess with the hardware drivers dialog
[22:05] <Masumex> can anyone help me configure conky?
[22:05] <resno> apocalypt: http://pastebin.com/m5167f3c3
[22:06] <apocalypt> Masumex: try this http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Conky
[22:06] <Masumex> thanks
[22:07] <psyjoniz> ubuntu 9.10 desktop : how can i make cron always run?
[22:08] <exarkun> Billiard: Okay
[22:08] <exarkun> Billiard: This seems to be working.
[22:08] <Billiard> exarkun: ok cool
[22:09] <exarkun> Thanks for the help apocalypt, Billiard
[22:09] <dixon_> hi, I have ubuntu running as a virtual instance in a cloud hosted environment. Every time the server is restarted (or they switched system image) I have to add a certain user. That isn't a problem as I add the user in a startup bash script. But I have to give that user a specific sudo permission in the sudoers file. Normally I would do that with the visudo command, but how can I do the same thing from the srartup script?
[22:09] <apocalypt> resno: try "sudo dpkg -r packagename" "sudo mv /var/lib/aptitude/packagename* /tmp" "sudo apt-get -f install"
[22:10] <exxxo45> hello everyone. I have mp3 player San Disk Sansa e280 and I can't mount it in Ubuntu 9.10. It worked just fine in 8.10, but I can't find the problem. Any suggestions would be appreciated
[22:10] <resno> apocalypt: i assume i use the package name where where packagename is ?
[22:10] <blip-> hi,  "last reboot" shows me the last time the system was rebooted.  Is there a way to know which user restarted it ?   thanks
[22:11] <apocalypt> resno: yeah use the package name
[22:11] <dixon_> Can I have my copy of the sudoers file on my persistent hd and then just overwrite the sudoers file with a simple cp command?
[22:12] <wasutton3-1> I am having an issue with a pptp vpn running on a ddwrt router. The installation connects fine with windows and mac (even my iphone), but with ubuntu it asks for my password, and then say the vpn connection has failed. any ideas?
[22:12] <bonez2046> please help me get java working.. I run on amd64 processor, 9.10 desktop..
[22:13] <wasutton3-1> bonez2046, for what, firefox? or the complete environment?
[22:13] <apocalypt> bonez2046: try in terminal "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:13] <resno> apocalypt: i cant remove, because a host of files depend on this file
[22:13] <TrevorMRose> Hi, I've got a question regarding gimp on ubuntu 8.04 lts ::::  how do I add patterns to gimp?
[22:14] <zycho> ive got a problem: i have done logout in gnome, than i have startet a xterm session. now xterm starts at any reboot. how to get back to gnome?
[22:14] <m0ar> I want to to a gconf-merge-tree, but does it matter what I put as dir?  What's a good location?
[22:14] <TrevorMRose> I'm familiar with photoshop, but that's on windows and I have no idea how to get it working with wine ect. on here, so im trying to use gimp. Help please :]
[22:15] <m0ar> TrevorMRose: Get used to gimp, you'll miss nothing.
[22:15] <resno> apocalypt: i issued this: "sudo dpkg -r kdebase-runtime" when i entered this "sudo dpkg -r kdebase-runtime_4%3a4.2.2-0ubuntu1.1_i386.deb" it said to specify the package name
[22:15] <Dem{0}N> any hacker here???
[22:15] <m0ar> TrevorMRose: Also; PS over CS2 is pathetically worthless via wine
[22:15] <TrevorMRose> Alright, may you explain how to install patterns?
[22:15] <m0ar> TrevorMRose: What kind?
[22:16] <TrevorMRose> There are more than on type of pattern?
[22:16] <m0ar> TrevorMRose: What do you classify as a pattern?  There are many diffrent meanings..
[22:16] <TrevorMRose> here, just tell me how to find the gimp folder?
[22:16] <apocalypt> resno: then try "sudo apt-get --purge remove kdebase-runtime" after that "sudo aptitude autoclean" "sudo aptitude update" "sudo aptitude upgrade" "sudo aptitude install kdebase-runtime"
[22:16] <boscop> why doesn't my torrent client download when there are 20000+ seeders!?
[22:17] <bonez2046> apocalypt: I ran that several months ago, upon a tip from Shawn Powers, but I think I b
[22:17] <Snausages> boscop: is it only in cases where there are more than 20,000?
[22:17] <wasutton3-1> boscop, it could be because of a poor seed ratio
[22:17] <bonez2046> apocalypt: I think I broke THAT by removing some flash and java stuff.. if I purge that and then reinstall it would that reinstall, or just do to a reinstall?
[22:17] <boscop> Snausages: no, but it's not the first time.
[22:18] <boscop> Snausages: but another one with 42 seeders loads from 3
[22:18] <TrevorMRose> can someone tell me how to get to the gimp folder on ubuntu 8.04 lts
[22:18] <boscop> Snausages: my bandwith is also not the problem
[22:18] <Snausages> boscop: hmm, got nothin for ya...  I only use torrent a little, and it mostly works, and when it doesn't I can't really complain given the price paid.
[22:19] <koshari1> TrevorMRose what gimp folder?
[22:19] <TrevorMRose> where is gimp installed in ubuntu
[22:19] <apocalypt> bonez2046: "sudo aptitude --purge remove untuntu-restricted-extras" "sudo aptitude autoclean" "sudo aptitude update && sudo  aptitude upgrade" "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[22:19] <boscop> wasutton3-1: but those listed as seeders have something to download, right? why is there a column "seeders" and another one "peers"?
[22:19] <m0ar> TrevorMRose: whereis gimp
[22:19] <m0ar> :)
[22:19] <BasiumDeJudas> hello
[22:19] <bonez2046> thanks apocalypt
[22:19] <meatball> m0ar its in applications grafics
[22:19] <BasiumDeJudas> I am having lunchpad key errors can someone help please?
[22:20] <TrevorMRose> you know how in windows they have a program folder. Is there something similar on ubuntu?
[22:20] <resno> apocalypt: still a no go
[22:20] <m0ar> meatball: ...  He was looking for the folder :P
[22:20] <koshari1> TrevorMRose in the system binaries folder like all programs, but its in your path so you dont need to go to the bin folder
[22:20] <m0ar> meatball: whereis is a command :P
[22:20]  * meatball ha ok
[22:20] <apocalypt> resno: pastebin your xorg please
[22:20] <apocalypt> resno: sorry i meant pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:20] <joaopinto> TrevorMRose, no, on Linux executables going into one directory, data files into another, etc etc, they are usually distributed by file type, no by application
[22:20] <wasutton3-1> boscop: seeders are typically those with 100% of the file, peers are those that have between 0%-and 100%
[22:21] <joaopinto> except for /usr/share/appname
[22:21] <boscop> wasutton3-1: in "seeders" it says "2 (22139)" and under "peers" is says "21 (7297)". but those 2 seeders have a 0 kb/s transfer rate! why did the client chose them!?
[22:21] <koshari1> TrevorMRose /usr/bin/gimp-2.6
[22:21] <Nooneshere> Hello, i just followed a tut and had IRC help, and my bootsector now doesn't see Windows XP. Could anyone help me?
[22:21] <wasutton3-1> becase those are the ones that approved connection
[22:21] <MASARUwota> nooneshere: you mean GRUB?
[22:21]  * meatball dinner
[22:21] <Snausages> boscop: maybe the others want to see secure connections?  is your client allowing/requiring secure connects?
[22:22] <boscop> wasutton3-1: but if they transfer 0 bytes it doesn't help
[22:22] <resno> apocalypt: http://pastebin.com/d7d8ad9e1
[22:22] <wasutton3-1> no it doesnt
[22:22] <boscop> Snausages: hm. how secure?
[22:22] <MASARUwota> nooneshere: open a termina land type: sudo update-grub
[22:22] <MASARUwota> *terminal
[22:23] <Snausages> boscop: some clients have settings to prefer or require SSL on all connections.  I use transmission, it's a checkbox in there.
[22:23] <Nooneshere> MASARUwota:That will do it?   Worried about overwriting the original grub....I notice that under Advanced on the derivative install cd I can uncheck "install bootloader"?  Is this what I want to do???  Advice?  Suggestions?
[22:24] <bonez2046> apocalypt: here's a report from those commands > http://pastebin.ca/1716339
[22:24] <bonez2046> apocalypt: nothing changed when I ran those..
[22:24] <MASARUwota> newuser1: why dont you want to overwrite it?
[22:24] <git__> anyone here use a 1TB uSB external hard drive?
[22:24] <resno> apocalypt: i havent changed those. i did an upgrade to 9.04 from the previous version.
[22:25] <MASARUwota> git__: im using a 500gb one
[22:25] <boscop> Snausages: hm. here in Deluge I only find UPnP, NAT-PMP, Peer Exchange, LSD and DHT
[22:25] <git__> if so, what do u use as backup on ubuntu?
[22:25] <Snausages> git__: I use a few
[22:25] <wasutton3-1> git__ i use a 2tb one and its just fine
[22:25] <koshari1> git_ yes , many people have them
[22:25] <boscop> Snausages: no SSL checkbox
[22:25] <apocalypt> bonez2046: u need to deinstall that package before
[22:25] <git__> what filesystem did u format ur external usb?
[22:25] <git__> did u use ext4?
[22:25] <Dem{0}N> any hacker here???
[22:25] <Dem{0}N> any hacker here???
[22:25] <apocalypt> resno: ok
[22:25] <MASARUwota> git__: i did XFS
[22:25] <newuser1> well, i thought I head that 9.10 uses a different grub than 9.04?  Just want to make sure that when I reboot I have both Ubuntu 9.10 there and bootable as well as the 9.04 Jolicloud derivative?
[22:25] <wasutton3-1> git__i did ext4
[22:25] <resno> apocalypt: would that have caused it?
[22:25] <Snausages> git__: no, ext4 looks like it's still a lil shady for my purposes...  totally happy with ext3
[22:25] <MASARUwota> Dem{0}N: we are linux hackers, hacking up linux applications =)
[22:25] <apocalypt> resno: did u try a "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[22:25] <bonez2046> apocalypt: what I need to do is proof the spelling.. so I am attacking ubuntu instead of untuntu...;)
[22:26] <newuser1> MASARUwota well, i thought I head that 9.10 uses a different grub than 9.04?  Just want to make sure that when I reboot I have both Ubuntu 9.10 there and bootable as well as the 9.04 Jolicloud derivative?
[22:26] <triage> hay can someone help me, my audio driver seems to work only when it wants to
[22:26] <git__> i'm getting one soon and realize FAT32 won't cut it for VM images of size greater than 4GB
[22:26] <boscop> Snausages: should I forward some ports in my router?
[22:26] <resno> apocalypt: i am not yet at 9.10. need to backup hd before taking the leap
[22:26] <wasutton3-1> git__ no it wont.
[22:26] <git__> i like the interoperability between Ubuntu and Windows
[22:26] <boscop> Snausages: like 60297?
[22:26] <Nooneshere> MASARUwota: Okay i did and it updated, so i will reboot, and hopefully i can access my windows games...
[22:26] <Nooneshere> MASARUwota: Thank you
[22:26] <triage> hay can someone help me, my audio driver seems to work only when it wants to
[22:26] <koshari1> git__ use ntfs then, or ext2 with the win ext2 driver
[22:26] <MASARUwota> newuser1. yes. i think that the best thing you should do is to NOT overwrite it, and then run a "sudo update-grub" from the terminal, in linux
[22:26] <MASARUwota> Nooneshere: np
[22:27] <git__> i'm thinking ntfs
[22:27] <wasutton3-1> git__ you can use ext3, but set the inode block to 128
[22:27] <Snausages> boscop: I dunno, I never bothered to and it hasn't been a problem.  To test the SSL thing, you might try putting the same torrent into transmission and just see what it does.
[22:27] <newuser1> MASARUwota will I have to add a line to menu.lst to get the 9.04 to boot?  That's another thing I do not know how to do?
[22:27] <triage> hay can someone help me, my audio driver seems to work only when it wants to
[22:27] <psyjoniz> ubuntu 9.10 cron doesn't seem to be running by default; can someone help?  i've tried $ sudo update-rc.d cron defaults and rebooting does not seem to get it running.
[22:27] <MASARUwota> newuser1: if you run 9.10 you will have grub2. Using "sudo update-grub" will automaticly update the list.
[22:28] <newuser1> MASARUwota is that something I run from the Ubuntu 9.10 (on first partition)...and then it will find the 9.04 on the second partition???
[22:29] <newuser1> MASARUwota thanks for help btw
[22:29] <Nooneshere> Sadly, i a back :(
[22:29] <Nooneshere> *am
[22:30] <Nooneshere> So anyone on any ideas on how to get my windows side back?
[22:30] <cast> as in the side of your window?
[22:30] <bonez2046> apocalypt: got any recommendations for a good java tester
[22:30] <wasutton3-1> nooneshere: what windows side? windows partition?
[22:31] <Nooneshere> Windows patition.
[22:31] <Nooneshere> Wow i can't spell...
[22:31] <koshari1> Nooneshere di dyou delete it?
[22:31] <newuser1> MASARUwota so what you are saying is go ahead and install 9.04 derivative to second partition (mount point is /) then choose not to install the bootloader....reboot into the 9.10 on first partition...and run "sudo update-grub" which will detect the 9.04 and add it to the menu.lst????
[22:32] <newuser1> then reboot and I should have option of 9.10 or 9.04??  Correct???
[22:32] <meatball> can someone tell me what program I need to load windows operating system inside linux
[22:32] <jrib> !virtualizer | meatball
[22:32] <newuser1> Virtualbox meatball
[22:32] <wasutton3-1> nooneshere: its buried in the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:32] <koshari1> newuser1: if you have 9.04 just edit menu.1sr, if you have 9.10 run the updater script
[22:33] <boscop> Snausages: oh, transmission does it!
[22:33] <meatball> jrib newuser1 is it free?
[22:33] <Nooneshere> No i installed windows after ubuntu.
[22:33] <Nooneshere> Then i followed a tut, and i can't see it now :(
[22:33] <Nooneshere> On the grub menu that is
[22:33] <boscop> Snausages: and very fast
[22:33] <jrib> meatball: yes
[22:33] <boscop> Snausages: thanks
[22:33] <koshari1> Nooneshere what ver ubuntu?
[22:33] <newuser1> yes meatball, free for non-commercial use I believe
[22:33] <meatball> jrib thanks I will check it out
[22:33] <allah> #chat.freenode.net:6667
[22:34] <Nooneshere> I'm just as stumped :/
[22:34] <git__> i have yet to see a laptop with more than 9 hours of battery life
[22:34] <goddard> does anyone know of any good desktop screenshot plugins for faster croping?
[22:34] <koshari1> Nooneshere what version ubuntu do you have??
[22:34] <Nooneshere> Ubuntu studios 9.04
[22:34] <goddard> git__ have you seen the sony viao z or x
[22:34] <koshari1> goddard: whats wrong with the default one
[22:34] <syntr0py> big problem here. I ran a "echo 1 > /sys/power/pm_trace; pm_hibernate" on my desktop, and it seems now my display is broken. Instead of a 1920x1200 now I have 1920x688 (in Linux text mode, during boot and in Windows -- X won't start anymore). The lower part of the screen (the other 512 pixels) duplicate what's in the upper part.
[22:34] <wasutton3-1> git__ they are working on it, the best you can do is decrease the processing speed
[22:35] <koshari1> Nooneshere ok you need to add an entry in the menu.1st file
[22:35] <goddard> koshari1 if you want to crop something you can't do it with the default screenshot program
[22:35] <newuser1> koshari1 i have 9.10 installed on first partition.....runs great.  However I want to install 9.04 derivative (jolicloud) on second partition....but do not want to mess up my grub from 9.10 and Im not sure how to do menu.lst...so I am choosing not to install the bootloader when installing 9.04 derivative.  DOes that sound right?
[22:35] <koshari1> goddard yes you can,
[22:35] <goddard> i have to use gimp or something bloated like that
[22:35] <goddard> how?
[22:35] <Nooneshere> koshari1: i don't understand what you mean.
[22:35] <koshari1> goddard use "grab selected area"
[22:35] <syntr0py> I don't get it. is this just bad luck and my display is broken, or is it possible that pm_trace f...ed my display up?
[22:36] <jelly-bean1> how do i update ubuntu from jaunty to karmic from cli?
[22:36] <goddard> what if it is a menu item?
[22:36] <koshari1> Nooneshere the menu.1st file is the grub config file
[22:36] <kkkduifjalsdd> how do i make an image file from my system partition
[22:36] <jrib> !upgrade | jelly-bean1, see server instructions:
[22:36] <Billiard> kkkduifjalsdd: you can use dd
[22:36] <Nooneshere> koshari1: Where abouts am i looking for this?
[22:36] <jrib> kkkduifjalsdd: or partimage
[22:37] <wasutton3-1> nooneshere: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:37] <koshari1> Nooneshere in /boot/grub folder
[22:37] <goddard> koshari1 how do I do that?
[22:37] <georgij_> Hi
[22:37] <koshari1> goddard menu>accesory>takeScreenshot>grab selected area
[22:37] <newuser1> koshari1 and MASARUwota...im about to take the plunge....stop me if this does not look right!
[22:37] <newuser1> go ahead and install 9.04 derivative to second partition (mount point is /) then choose not to install the bootloader....reboot into the 9.10 on first partition...and run "sudo update-grub" which will detect the 9.04 and add it to the menu.lst????
[22:38] <Dmole> hey any one know of a cross-fading CLI music player for ubuntu?
[22:38] <goddard> koshari1 how do I do that with a menu item or just a part of a web page?
[22:38] <goddard> for example
[22:38] <Nooneshere> koshari1:Okay i got it, now what do i do?
[22:38] <aurolac> anyone running an MSI Wind ?
[22:39] <georgij_> Is there any WINDOW MANAGER that uses bitmaps and pngs for the titlebar and corners etc? Like I can do in Compiz with emerald?
[22:39] <jrib> Dmole: mpd?
[22:39] <jelly-bean1> i want an acer one
[22:39] <koshari1> goddard you just select it.
[22:39] <Dmole> mpd: mpd have dynamic playlists?
[22:40] <goddard> koshari1 back sorry do you know how to install a plugin to do that?
[22:40] <Nooneshere> koshari1:Okay i got it open how to i make a listing?
[22:40] <Dmole> jrib: mpd have dynamic playlists?
[22:40] <soreau> georgij_: Why not use compiz and emerald?
[22:40] <jrib> Dmole: what is a dynamic playlist?
[22:40] <koshari1> goddard you dont need a plugin its there already, goddard menu>accesory>takeScreenshot>grab selected area
[22:40] <syk> Nooneshere, whats the problem?
[22:40] <georgij_> soreau, because they are a pain and so much memory and stuff
[22:40] <goddard> koshari1 what if it is a menu item or part of a web page?
[22:41] <koshari1> it dont matetr
[22:41] <georgij_> isnt there a small wm like fluxbox that can handle bitmaps?
[22:41] <goddard> koshari1 please explain how then?
[22:41] <georgij_> this is weird if there isnt one
[22:41] <koshari1> just draw the box over the part of the screen you want to copy
[22:41] <Nooneshere> syk: it i am trying to make a listing for windows XP in menu.Ist
[22:41] <chronos> hello to everyone
[22:41] <chronos> how I discover what is package that create certain file?
[22:41] <koshari1> goddard is your browser open on the page you want to copy the crop off?
[22:41] <goddard> koshari1 ahh I see
[22:41] <goddard> thank you
[22:42] <syk> Nooneshere, you want to edit grub?
[22:42] <chronos> I thinking that some package related to qt is with problems
[22:42] <cast> chronos: dpkg -S /bin/bash
[22:42] <goddard> koshari1 sorry thank you I see
[22:42] <koshari1> goddard your welcome
[22:42] <mengu> hi. anyone used avidemux? can it disable sound of a video?
[22:42] <meatball> I installed virtualbox, now where is the application?
[22:42] <Nooneshere> Syk: Yes so i can access my windows side.
[22:43] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[22:43] <syk> Nooneshere, does windows show up in grub?
[22:43] <resno> meatball: issue virtualbox to open
[22:43] <koshari1> meatball user/bin most likely, but i guess you mean the launcher?
[22:43] <chronos> thx cast
[22:43] <Dmole> jrib: I want to be able to add tracks to a currently playing playlist from the CLI (I tried named pipes with mplayer buy it was fail)
[22:43] <Nooneshere> Syk: No it doesn't. I was told to do this.
[22:43] <jrib> Dmole: yeah you can do that of course
[22:43] <meatball> kosharil yes launcher
[22:43] <AJC_Z0> meatball: Try Applications > Accessories
[22:43] <Mainstay> is there an ubuntu networking channel?
[22:43] <jmyers> anyone else running Ubuntu on an AMD 64?
[22:44] <koshari1> meatball generally under system tools
[22:44] <syk> Nooneshere, told to do what?
[22:44] <jrib> jmyers: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[22:44] <georgij_> can someone point me to a direction where I can get a simple c++ reference of a Window Manager?
[22:44] <meatball> koshharil ajcz0 nope
[22:44] <Dmole> jrib: nice I'll install it now and give it a try
[22:44] <Nooneshere> syk: To edit the menu.lst file
[22:44] <meatball> ill find a fourm
[22:45] <syk> Nooneshere, are you using karmic?
[22:45] <koshari1> Nooneshere read this, http://www.techtalkwiki.net/restore_grub_on_linux?DokuWiki=dc1a74e869d9889b7c42c184784633bf
[22:45] <jrib> Dmole: mpd is the daemon, mpc is a nice client for creating binds, ncmpcpp and ncmpc are two nice cli clients, and sonata is a nice gtk client
[22:45] <jrib> s/cli/curses
[22:45] <Nooneshere> syk: I am using ubuntu studios 9.04
[22:46] <syk> Nooneshere, try the link koshari1 pasted
[22:47] <Nooneshere> Syk: i will
[22:47] <workstation> doesn't ubuntu 9.10 come with grub2 and grub-update?
[22:47] <koshari1> workstation yes
[22:48] <forceflow> workstation: only if you do fresh install
[22:48] <forceflow> upgrade installs still use regular grub
[22:48] <forceflow> afaik
[22:48] <koshari1> forceflow legacy grub
[22:48] <meatball> virtualbox should be listed in system tools and its not? what do I do
[22:48] <forceflow> meatball: check in console: try VirtualBox
[22:48] <zelnick> hey guys, whats the correct way to kill X under ubuntu?
[22:48] <forceflow> with a capital letter
[22:48] <koshari1>  meatball: youmay need to restart the gnome menu
[22:49] <forceflow> meatball: I had to open the gnome menu editor and check/uncheck the virtualbox item for it to appear. Pretty weird, but it works  :)
[22:49] <bonez2046> apocalypt: any other ideas on getting java working? it just won't run on my system.. depsite those updates
[22:49] <chronos> ahn people. we have something in *ubuntu that check for inconsistences in system, I want to check if some package have files corrupted and than reinstall these packages
[22:49] <Billiard> zelnick: "sudo service gdm stop" ,  maybe
[22:49] <workstation> forceflow, koshari1  ok It was a fresh install. I installed grub legacy so I could use the grub command line, because that is what I am familiar with. Did that replace grub2
[22:49] <zelnick> Billiard: allright i will try that :)
[22:49] <breker> hi guys. is there a guide/how-to for the manual installation of a image to a media, like USB drive or CF card? found a semi-complete guide 2 voyage, but it des not make use of chroot (which I'm also trying to learn)
[22:49] <bonez2046> Billiard: so reload gdm?
[22:49] <koshari1> meatball try  killall gnome-panel
[22:49] <Billiard> bonez2046: hmm?
[22:50] <workstation> forceflow, koshari1  sorry fresh install of Ubuntu 9.10, then installed grub legacy
[22:50] <Nooneshere>  Syk: that doesn't help. I need to know how too add XP...
[22:50] <Flare183> The mouse animation you see when a webpage is loading on firefox doesn't work for me anymore, how/what should I do to fix this?
[22:50] <timber> hi, i can't find a solution to my problem, which is: my internet connection sometimes enter in a kind of loop, and falls in "destination host unreachable", i was using the google public dns and this problem appeared after i made the last official update in karmic koala....someone knows how to solve this?
[22:51] <syk> Nooneshere, check pm
[22:51] <breker> timber: I've heard nasty rumours about DNS issues in karmic
[22:51] <timber> breker: and what is?
[22:52] <ohay> if I do a dist upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10, will it change GRUB to 2 or leave the original one?
[22:52] <Billiard> ohay: original
[22:52] <breker> timber: sorry; no solution. my settings are very static for a while now; have not experienced more trouble than usual
[22:53] <Slart> ohay: I think it will keep the original one.. but I'm not entirely sure
[22:54] <timber> breker: ok, thanks....that's good because now i know that is known problem....i was thinking it was only in my computer
[22:55] <forceflow> Flare183: do you use a custom theme?
[22:55] <forceflow> for ubuntu/firefox
[22:55] <Flare183> forceflow:  Yes both
[22:56] <dante123> hey what is the command to setup menu.lst after installing linux to another partion....sudo upgrade grub or update???
[22:56] <forceflow> Flare183: switch back to default and see if it fixes it
[22:56] <Flare183> ok
[22:56] <maco> dante123: sudo update-grub
[22:56] <forceflow> just to check :)
[22:56] <jelly-bean1> i am trying to customize gnome icons with my $HOME/.icons directory. i can do some but others aren't getting overridden. How can I see an icon and determine the filename I need to use to override it?
[22:56] <jelly-bean1> e.g. stock_folder.png
[22:56] <epinky> timber: seems to be a gateway problem, check your default gateway value with "route -n"
[22:57] <dante123> thanks maco
[22:57] <timber> !paste
[22:57] <Flare183> forceflow: Ok, its not the FireFlox theme then
[22:57] <KittyBoots> I have just go t a new externa harddrive it is a
[22:57] <KittyBoots>
[22:57] <KittyBoots>
[22:57] <KittyBoots>
[22:57] <KittyBoots>
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[22:57] <KittyBoots>
[22:57] <Flare183> !ops | KittyBoots
[22:57] <KittyBoots> My Passport Essential SE
[22:57] <Flare183> >.<
[22:57] <timber> epinky: i got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/342203/
[22:58] <KittyBoots> I didnt mean to do that
[22:58] <Flannel> KittyBoots: It's alright.  Please continue
[22:58] <Flare183> KittyBoots: Oops
[22:58] <phuzion> Looking for drivers for an Atheros AR8131M ethernet chipset, anyone know where I might be able to find some?
[22:58] <forceflow> Flare183: be sure to log out/log in after changing themes
[22:58] <forceflow> just to be sure
[22:58] <Flare183> forceflow: Alright
[22:58] <forceflow> phuzion: maybe in backports?
[22:59] <phuzion> Woah, net-unsplit
[23:00] <ninjah> I just got a portable digital photo frame from amazon. It requires software to load the pictures. Are there picture frames that don't require software?
[23:00] <flaco> hi all.. I'm setting up a vpn network... I got 3 computer for now... all with linux... 2 are in a LAN (one is the vpn server) and the other is other city...the clients are connected correctly.. I can ping from one client to another (from PC in other city to the client on LAN), but not in the other way.. any ideas why??
[23:00] <dixon_> if I create a user with "useradd" without the -p argument, the user will be disabled. How will I enable it later on? By just setting a password with "passwd" for the user?
[23:00] <holmser> ninjah, all of my digital frames just show up as usb storage devices
[23:01] <holmser> no software needed
[23:01] <ninjah> holmser: Hmm... I got a 3.5 inch one with a built in batter. Do you know of anything that size that shows up as a storage device?
[23:01] <sebsebseb> hi
[23:01] <timber> epinky: did you receive my link?
[23:01] <holmser> they also play xvid movies too... so I can watch a movie from my nightstand while I go to sleep
[23:02] <apocalypt> flaco: maybe a firewall on site which doesn't answer?
[23:02] <flaco> apocalypt, you mean the router firewall??? if so.. I got the vpn server in a DMZ zone..
[23:02] <ninjah> holmser: Cool! I'm just looking for one that runs on batteries.
[23:03] <apocalypt> flaco: maybe icmp is blocked. try to connect other ports with "telnet"
[23:04] <timber> hey, someone knows about the problem with the gateway?
[23:04] <flaco> apocalypt, but doing ping from the vpn server to the LAN client works..
[23:04] <phix> hey, with dmesg, is the number at the front of the line a date stamp? or something else?
[23:05] <apocalypt> flaco: but i guess u tried to ping the vpn server from outside. that's another constalation
[23:05] <jesse2> Does anyone know how I can change my bootsplash image?
[23:06] <phix> hey, with dmesg, is the number at the front of the line a date stamp? or something else?
[23:06] <apocalypt> flaco: then why i told u to try to connect to other ports
[23:06] <Nooneshere> Ca
[23:06] <Nooneshere> Can someone PM me and help me?
[23:06] <phix> For example --> [15222636.581238] usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 103
[23:06] <Slart> !pm | Nooneshere
[23:06] <epinky> !pm > Nooneshere
[23:06] <phuzion> Is it possible to get a .deb of linux - 2.6.26-4.12
[23:06] <phuzion> linux - 2.6.26-4.12
[23:06] <phuzion> linux - 2.6.26-4.12
[23:06] <phuzion> is it possible to get a .deb of 2.6.26-4.12 so I can install on a machine without a network card?
[23:06] <Flare183> forceflow: Nope, it didn't work.
[23:06] <phuzion> Wow, don't know how that happened
[23:06] <phix> wow there is alot of join / quit activity here
[23:07] <jesse2> can anyone recommend a good tool for changing the splash image (background picture) of grub?
[23:07] <Slart> phuzion: sure.. you can just copy the deb to a usb stick
[23:07] <Slart> !aptoncd | phuzion, this works too
[23:07] <Nooneshere> My issue is a tried to fix my Grub, and i just screwed up. And now i can't see windows.
[23:07] <KittyBoots> I have just go t a new externa harddrive it is a My Passport Essential SE.  It is configured from the factory with 2 partitians, but not really.  I am on ubuntu and when I plug it in it shows up as wd smartware which displays as a cdrom and my passport which comes up as a hard drive.  When I load gparted the only partition it shows is my passport.  I want to delete the wd smartware partition but it does not show up in gparted.
[23:07] <KittyBoots> How can I eliminate the partition?
[23:07] <Slart> !offline | phuzion
[23:07] <phuzion> Slart, I don't have another Ubuntu machine
[23:07] <flaco> apocalypt, computer A and B are in a LAN, A is vpn server, C is other city... ping from C to A works... ping from A to C not.. ping from C to B works... ping from B to C not..
[23:08] <Slart> phuzion: you've got another machine that is equipped with a web browser?
[23:08] <phuzion> Yeah
[23:08] <phuzion> Use apturl then?
[23:08] <Slart> phix: you can ignore those if you want.. method depends on what client you're using
[23:08] <apocalypt> flaco: that tells me C isn't available for icmp