[00:01] <TJ-> dan_r0ck: If I remember correctly, when you have multiple GPUs they each have to drive a separate X session.
[00:01] <ChrisWere> So I've had this problem for a while. Ive been on here before but no-one's managed to help me. I used to be able to get 1280x960 resolution on my Nvidia card and now I can't anyone know why? Also, this problem doesn't happen on windows I can still get high resolutions
[00:04] <TJ-> ChrisWere: After you left the other day I checked the Windows side. The problem - as we found out - was that the monitor isn't sending an EDID to the GPU. On Windows, if no EDID is present it uses a set of pre-defined modelines anyhow. On Ubuntu and X by default now, the server is set to auto-detect the modes via the EDID. If that isn't present (or invalid) you have to do the same as Windows does. That is, you need to create an X config file ("/etc/x11/xorg.conf" with
[00:04] <TJ->  settings in it.
[00:04] <ahmedipa> Did any buddy know my problem ? regarding UBUNTU hung
[00:05] <ChrisWere> tj-: right okay
[00:05] <ChrisWere> tj-: how can i do this. I'm rubbish at editing x.conf. I've busted the file very time I've tried to edit it.
[00:05] <CrawfordComeaux> how can I reconfigure how grub is installed when trying to upgrade?
[00:06] <TJ-> ChrisWere: You can get the "Nvidia X Settings" to write a default configuration to that file for you, then you can add the specifics of your actual monitor ( the important values are HorizSync and VertSync in a "Monitor" section)
[00:06] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Give me a couple of minutes, I'm working on an MIT assignment with someone. I'll find you the instructions
[00:06] <ChrisWere> TJ-: thanks. I'll generate the default x.conf file now
[00:07] <ahmedipa> ??
[00:08] <cindy> #ubuntu-indonesia
[00:08] <TJ-> ChrisWere: If you an remind me of the exact make and model of the monitor, since we need that to search the 'net for its minimum/maximum frequencies
[00:08] <TheLordOfTime> cindy: do you have a support question?
[00:08] <Galaxor> Hi.  I've got a machine that will boot up to ubuntu when I boot it from my (usb) install CD (12.04 desktop x84_64).  But after installing, when I boot off the hard drive, I get a black screen with the text cursor on it and nothing more ever.  I don't even get a grub screen.  What do I do?
[00:09] <ChrisWere> tj-: Make :iiyama Model: LS704u
[00:09] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Thanks. I'll do some digging
[00:10] <tbren> Can someone tell me how to uninstall something i installed from source btw make uninstall and make remove does not work
[00:10] <bennypr0fane> hello, anyone feel like taking a look at my issue in the forums? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12295855#post12295855
[00:11] <bennypr0fane> I already chowned it
[00:11] <blackshirt> tbren, usually uninstall script would take that ?
[00:11] <blackshirt> tbren, usually uninstall script would take that
[00:12] <blackshirt> If makefiles doesn't contain uninstall rules, you can do it manually with reversely step
[00:13] <blackshirt> bennypr0fane, can you describe it here ?
[00:13] <bennypr0fane> sure; I can paste here what I wrote in the forums
[00:14] <blackshirt> just for a little descriptions
[00:14] <tbren> Reversly step?
[00:14] <bennypr0fane> I have a data partition mounted in fstab but it seems I cannot write downloads to it. Dropbox is on that partition and it does sync. here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/vhPCmSsi and blkid: http://pastebin.com/uF5t7Yey ...the reason I suspect there is a problem in fstab is that I get a permission denied error for the downloads. Also, I can't copy local files to that partition. But then how is Dropbox granted permission?
[00:14] <bennypr0fane> blackshirt your gonna ask me for details later anyway...
[00:15] <TJ-> ChrisWere: According to others with the same monitor you'll need these settings in the "Monitor" section of "/etc/X11/xorg.conf". Make sure the Identifier is the one used in the Screen section of your config file. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280284/
[00:15] <blackshirt> tbren, makefiles contain install rules, usually with copying files to the filesystem ... And you should know what have been copied
[00:15] <benbro> is there a problem with storing a large number of files in a single folder?
[00:16] <tbren> Thanks
[00:16] <benbro> 1K files, 10K files...
[00:16] <TheLordOfTime> !crosspost | benbro
[00:16] <TheLordOfTime> benbro, just be patient.
[00:17] <ChrisWere> tj-: okay, made the changes, should I restart X and hope for the best?
[00:18] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Yes. And after you have, pastebin the resulting "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" so we can see what effect the config file had
[00:18] <blackshirt> bennypr0fane, wait a minute
[00:18] <CrawfordComeaux> if grub gets screwed up during upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04, could I repair it using the 10.04 DVD?
[00:19] <steven-> why should it screw up in the first place?
[00:19] <steven-> and yes, you should be able to repair it
[00:20] <CrawfordComeaux> steven-: because the server's a VM w/some kind of goofy disk setup
[00:20] <steven-> oh i see
[00:20] <steven-> worst case is u have to chroot and repair it
[00:20] <ChrisWere> tj-: okay what was it you wanted me to pastebin again?
[00:21] <TJ-> ChrisWere:  "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[00:22] <ChrisWere> tj-: okay nothing seems to have happened http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280289/
[00:23] <TJ-> ChrisWere: OK, looking
[00:24] <CrawfordComeaux> is it possible to boot from CD via grub rescue?
[00:24] <TJ-> Chris-D: The log-file shows that it didn't pick up a monitor section. Can you pastebin the xorg.conf for me?
[00:24] <TheLordOfTime> CrawfordComeaux, you'd boot from CD at pre-OS, if you're at a grub rescue prompt, you're already at the OS
[00:24] <TheLordOfTime> CrawfordComeaux, you'd have to check the BIOS on your system to see if it boots from CDs before it tries to boot from the hard drive
[00:25] <TJ-> oops, grrr, tab completion
[00:25] <TJ-> ChrisWere: The log-file shows that it didn't pick up a monitor section. Can you pastebin the xorg.conf for me?
[00:26] <CrawfordComeaux> TheLordOfTime: unique problem here - grub's borked on a VM I don't have physical access to & the java console that lets me access it doesn't load up in time to press f12 :P
[00:26] <ChrisWere> tj-: the xorg.conf as it currently stands http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280297/
[00:27] <TheLordOfTime> CrawfordComeaux, if your VM is that screwed, i'd say recreate the VM.  but if you can't do that, well...
[00:27] <TheLordOfTime> personally, i know of no method to do that from grub rescue.  but i'm not a grub pro.
[00:29] <CrawfordComeaux> let's see...maybe I can use another VNC client to connect
[00:30] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Ahhh! my example Monitor section for you uses a different Identifier. Edit the Monitor section is it reads "Identifier   "Monitor0"   and try again
 Chris-D: The log-file shows that it didn't pick up a monitor section. Can you pastebin the xorg.conf for me? <-- hehe - wrong chris
[00:30] <TJ-> Chris-D: yeah, tab-completion keeps getting you and I didn't notice
[00:31] <ChrisWere> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280305/ my new xorg.conf - i'll just tried it out now
[00:33] <ChrisWere> tj-: it worked!
[00:34] <TJ-> ChrisWere: At flippin' last, YAY! put the flags out
[00:34] <ChrisWere> tj-: so can i ask you about it, so that I understand?
[00:34] <TJ-> Sure
[00:34] <dan_r0ck> OerHeks, I can set DISCRETE or IGP in the BIOS config. IGP forces the onboard to load... DISCRETE forces nvidia to load
[00:35] <ChrisWere> tj-: if I use nvidia-config to re-write my xorg.conf, will it undo these changes?
[00:35] <joan> hola
[00:35] <TJ-> ChrisWere: As far as I recall, no, it will only change settings you modify, as long as you use the GUI Nvidia X Settings program. I'm not sure about the command-line tool, never checked that!
[00:36] <stephanator> Anyone out there managed to get systemtap working with 12.04-1 yet?
[00:36] <ChrisWere> tj-: I assume I should back up the xorg.conf I have now just in case. But one thing I don't understand is what actually caused the error in the first place? Was it monitor memory getting corrupted or something?
 Chris-D: yeah, tab-completion keeps getting you and I didn't notice <-- it's all good - happens to me all the time too :)
[00:37] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Yes! I'd do that!!
[00:38] <TJ-> ChrisWere: I don't either, but yes, it seems the Electrically Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory (EEPROM) in the monitor that stores the EDID got zapped in some way. This is not as unusual as it sounds! There are even specialised tools that can reprogram it down the VGA cable. When it happens, you have to provide the information to the X server manually via xorg.conf
[00:40] <ChrisWere> TJ-: Programming down the VGA cable? I never knew one could do that
[00:40] <sacrebleu> hey folks, Orcbuntu available http://orcs.biz
[00:40] <altin> has anyone ever figured out a way to watch netflix in ubuntu ?
[00:40] <KM0201> sacrebleu: stop being stupid
[00:41] <altin> I know they don't support linux but just saying !?
[00:41] <sacrebleu> altin: Wine?
[00:41] <altin> sacrebleu: wine and what ?
[00:41] <altin> because I tried whine and firefox
[00:41] <sacrebleu> Wine and browser?
[00:41] <sacrebleu> Chrome?
[00:41] <KM0201> altin: other than windows in virtualbox... no
[00:41] <altin> but it just wont start
[00:41] <sacrebleu> oh yeah VirtualBox
[00:41] <altin> VirtualBox with windows ?
[00:42] <sacrebleu> Yeah you could do that
[00:42] <KM0201> altin: install virtualbox, install windows inside virtualbox.
[00:42] <sacrebleu> probably VirtualBox and MacOS too
[00:42] <TJ-> Chris-D: Apparently for some devices it is possible with a special bit of hardware
[00:42] <altin> hmmm I was thinking of that but I am kind of sceptic if I should torrent a windows copy
[00:42] <Chris-D> lol
[00:42] <TJ-> ChrisWere: !!! Apparently for some devices it is possible with a special bit of hardware
[00:42] <sacrebleu> altin: MacOS, $50
[00:42] <altin> I aint paying for software !!
[00:43] <sacrebleu> wait its only $19.99
[00:43] <altin> I would torrent it but I am afraid to do that here in US
[00:43] <altin> :p
[00:43] <sacrebleu> http://www.apple.com/osx/
[00:43] <Malimbar> it's also not officially compatible with anything but mac hardware
[00:43] <ChrisWere> TJ-: I see, right now the next step for me is to try and get this to work with my dual moniters
[00:43] <sacrebleu> even in a VirtualBox?
[00:43] <Malimbar> some verification somethign or other they put into macs
[00:43] <Malimbar> pretty sure, but let me check
[00:44] <sacrebleu> http://www.sysprobs.com/guide-mac-os-x-10-7-lion-on-virtualbox-with-windows-7-and-intel-pc
[00:44] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Hopefully the 2nd monitor will provide an EDID and then the Nvidia X Settings application will sort it out for you
[00:44] <zatan> hey what does it mean ? can't run as root without the -u switch
[00:45] <jrib> zatan: give context
[00:45] <Malimbar> "we need to modify some packages and create a new disk which can be booted in virtualbox"
[00:45] <altin> hmm chrome fails to connect to internet if you try installing it with wine sacrebleu
[00:45] <zatan> jrib,  sudo memcached -I 2m         error "can't run as root without the -u switch"
[00:45] <sacrebleu> altin: just go rip a copy of XP
[00:46] <altin> yeah, it seems the best option...
[00:46] <altin> thnx :)
[00:46] <jrib> zatan: well... are you sure you want to run memcached as root?
[00:47] <zatan> jrib, no I am not sure but otherwise its not letting increase cache size
[00:47] <jrib> zatan: because the first hit for "memcached as root" is a security article saying you should not do that (http://blog.couchbase.com/memcached-security)
[00:48] <zatan> jrib, cheers for this article
[00:48] <jrib> zatan: how do you normally start memcached?
[00:50] <zatan> jrib, sudo memcached -d -u www-data -p 11211 -m 64
[00:50] <jrib> zatan: and you can't pass your -I setting there?
[00:51] <zatan> jrib, ok its time to go sleeep, its working fine now :)))))))
[00:51] <jrib> zatan: cool
[00:51] <zatan> jrib,  cheers ;)
[00:54] <superlou> Any reason why I would boot up my PC today, and suddenly nvidia drivers aren't running, and won't install via proprietary drivers install?I was previously using post-release updates version, but now when I try to install, it says to view jockey.log.
[00:55] <ramrebol_> hi. wxmaxima is not working, and my ubuntu is slow. How can I fix this?
[00:55] <ChrisWere> tj-: goodnews! dual monitors worsk!
[00:56] <superlou> ChrisWere, did you lose drivers too?
[00:57] <ChrisWere> superlou: what do you mean by lose drivers?
[00:57] <TJ-> ChrisWere: That's great news
[00:57] <ChrisWere> tj-: I feel like I really owe you
[00:58] <TJ-> ChrisWere: It's always obvious once you've suffered something yourself!
[00:58] <superlou> ChrisWere, I've been using the nvidia drivers installed by the additional drivers application for a few months now.  I just booted up today to find that the driver is no longer installed, and when I try to install it, it cannot (says to look at jockey.log)
[00:58] <superlou> Seems kind of strange, and wondering if it lines up with the kernel update recently?
[00:59] <ChrisWere> superlou: I happen to know that they've changed the repos recently because they're releasing stream for linux
[00:59] <TJ-> superlou: If the kernel was updated, it is possible - from your description - that the nvidia-current-updates DKMS kernel build hook didn't work and the nvidia module for the new kernel didn't get built
[01:00] <superlou> actually, i was having trouble with DKMS last week
[01:00] <superlou> trying to install virtualbox
[01:00] <superlou> i wonder if i torched something, which led to then not being able to build
[01:00] <superlou> TJ-, would you know a way to test that?
[01:00] <TJ-> DKMS is just a script that automates the kernel module build for non-free non-included kernel modules (drivers)
[01:01] <TJ-> superlou: Let's find out what kernel version you're on, and if there is an nvidia module installed for it. "uname -a"   then "ls -l /lib/modules/`uname -r`/updates/dkms/"
[01:02] <superlou> 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26 21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:02] <superlou> ls: cannot access /lib/modules/3.2.0-32-generic/updates/dkms/: No such file or directory
[01:02] <EMPHASIS> Hi, how do I set thunderbird to use an external drive to store my mailbox files, anyone please?
[01:02] <TJ-> superlou: Let me check I've not mis-remembered the path!
[01:03] <alone> oi
[01:03] <TJ-> superlou: It was correct. So there is a problem on your system. Try this: "ls -l /lib/modules/`uname -r`/updates/"
[01:03] <superlou> TJ-, yeah, it's the update folder that's not there
[01:03] <TJ-> superlou: OK, so there's no nvidia module obviously!
[01:04] <superlou> well, that's a downer
[01:04] <TJ-> superlou: how about this: "ls -l /usr/src/"
[01:05] <superlou> TJ-, https://gist.github.com/3890342
[01:06] <CrawfordComeaux> grub got borked during an upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 and I've booted from the ubuntu livecd into a repair shell. what do I do now?
[01:06] <TJ-> superlou: OK, so the source code is there "nvidia-current-updates-295.49" ... so let's try doing a dkms build manually
[01:07] <bodom> Hi there, i have very a very slow system with a very high "wa" cpu usage, can anybody help me troubleshoot this issue?
[01:07] <TJ-> superlou: "ls -l /var/lib/dkms/"  - do you see an "nvidia-current-updates" directory?
[01:08] <superlou> TJ-, yes
[01:08] <TJ-> superlou: does it end "-295.49" ?
[01:09] <TJ-> superlou: scratch that! wrong question!
[01:09] <superlou> TJ-, standing by (thanks in advance) :)
[01:09] <TJ-> superlou: "ls -l /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-current-updates/"  - do you see a "295.49" directory?
[01:09] <superlou> TJ-, yes
[01:10] <superlou> also, the kernel
[01:10] <TJ-> superlou: OK, lets try a build then. "sudo dkms -m nvidia-current-updates -v 295.49 -k 3.2.0-32-generic"
[01:11] <superlou> TJ-, no output, but it went _very_ quickly.   I'm tired and missing out typing key bits!!!
[01:12] <TJ-> superlou: Helps to tell DKMS to "build" !! "sudo dkms build -m nvidia-current-updates -v 295.49 -k 3.2.0-32-generic"
[01:13] <superlou> TJ-, now it's chugging along.  (Just finished 48-hour rails rumble myself.  not at the top of my game)
[01:13] <TJ-> superlou: If that completes, you tell it to "install" next... with all the same arguments
[01:13] <TJ-> superlou: So: "sudo dkms install -m nvidia-current-updates -v 295.49 -k 3.2.0-32-generic"
[01:14] <superlou> TJ-, build went, installing...
[01:14] <superlou> TJ-, reports installation completed, though no original module exists within this kernel
[01:14] <TJ-> superlou:  "ls -l /lib/modules/`uname -r`/updates/dkms/" should have something this time
[01:14] <superlou> TJ-, still no file or directory
[01:15] <TJ-> superlou: Huh!? Did "install" report where it was putting the new file, or any errors or warnings?
[01:15] <superlou> TJ-, it says it insatlled to /lib/modules/3.2.0-32-generic/kernel/drivers/char/drm/
[01:16] <TJ-> superlou: woah! Something not right there. Did you install the Nvidia driver from the Ubuntu archives or from a stand-alone Nvidia installer?
[01:16] <superlou> from the additional drivers app, so i thought ubuntu archives
[01:17] <TJ-> superlou: Just check the module for now "modinfo nvidia-current-updates" or "modinfo nvidia-current" or "modinfo nvidia"
[01:18] <superlou> TJ-, modinfo nvidia-current-updates reports stuff, the other two do not
[01:18] <superlou> do you want the details?
[01:19] <TJ-> superlou: Something weird I think - the Ubuntu packages (nvidia-current-updates, etc.) should install DKMS modules to the ./updates/dkms/ directory. It seems something (maybe that VirtualBox thing) has changed the default install location configured for DKMS. You best check in /etc/dkms/framework.conf and other DKMS files in /etc/dkms/
[01:19] <TJ-> superlou: If you got info on the module, yes please, pastebin it
[01:20] <WeThePeople> looking for a way to hide/encrypt a fs/partition?
[01:20] <superlou> TJ-, modinfo at http://pastebin.com/Y2MDacu3
[01:21] <bargash> hello
[01:21] <bargash> help me please!
[01:22] <TJ-> superlou: That looks good to go.  Log-out from the GUI, switch to a console, do "sudo service lightdm stop" then "sudo modprobe nvidia-current-updates" (if that doesn't work try also "nvidia-current" and "nvida" since the aliases get a bit silly) then restart X "sudo service lightdm start" and log-in
[01:24] <superlou> TJ-, here goes.  see you on the other side
[01:26] <superlou> TJ-, so, didn't need to do any console commands.  I logged out, and the second monitor showed up.  Nvidia settings now works.
[01:26] <superlou> I'm going to full reboot and make sure i'm not crazy.
[01:27] <bargash> please help, when i try to login  the monitor switch off then switch back to on and to login another time with the same problem, but if i login to safemode it works fine,what can i do thanx..!
[01:27] <ircUbuntu1> Hello, I have got a problem. I use ubuntu 10.04 (lucid) and I have overwritten a file on an usb-stick (Fat 32). I would like to recover that file again. Is this possible, e.g. with dd or anything like that?
[01:30] <superlou> TJ-, you're the man.  I think there's an underlying problem somewhere, but will fight it when I've slept more.  Thanks!
[01:32] <TJ-> superlou: Great to hear :)
[01:32] <newbie|3> Hi
[01:40] <WeThePeople> in disk utility what does " encrypt underlying device " mean?
[01:41] <Liquidedge> My 2 year old totally blew up my taskbar.  Is there a way to reset it to defaults?
[01:42] <Liquidedge> Xubuntu
[01:42] <sophos> What do you mean by 'blew up' ?
[01:47] <_Tristan> I may or may not have SATA 3 available on my motherboard. Is there a software-ish way to find that out?
[01:48] <WeThePeople> liquidedge, i assume you mean ether.. btw just right click and properties :)
[01:49] <TJ-> _Tristan: "grep 'SATA link' /var/log/kern.log"
[01:50] <TJ-> _Tristan: Bear in mind there may be settings in the BIOS that can affect the SATA ports available, and their link speed
[01:50] <_Tristan> thank you
[01:53] <Fekkuo> Greetings everyone.
[01:54] <Liquidedge> WeThePeople, sophos :  Here's the screenshot.  http://imgur.com/Mmgot
[01:55] <Fekkuo> Guys, I have a little problem here; and I can't appreciate enough for help.
[01:56] <Ambushed> Hello, can someone help installing driver on 12.04LTS for  Nvidia nvs 5100M on elitebook 8540p
[01:56] <Ambushed> Good work dev's btw, Ubuntu has had huge improvements!
[01:56] <Ambushed> World wide nigga, from New Zealand haha
[01:57] <Fekkuo> It happens that, in Ubuntu 11.10, I was messing with User and Group settings and I changed my only account from Administrator to Standard, and now it doesn't recognize my passwords. How can I get my priviledges back?
[01:57] <WeThePeople> ambushed, please watch your lang in here thx
[01:58] <Ambushed> Hello, can someone help installing driver on 12.04LTS for  Nvidia nvs 5100M
[01:58] <WeThePeople> liquidedge, yeah its right click and select preferences or properties
[01:58] <WeThePeople> its properties
[01:59] <Ambushed> Sorry for the analogy
[01:59] <Liquidedge> Yeah, and then what, though?
[01:59] <Ambushed> Whats a good CLI for telnet and SSH sessions
[02:00] <Fekkuo> Is anyone wise enough to help me with this miserable luck of mine?
[02:00] <Liquidedge> WeThePeople, did you see the screenshot?
[02:00] <Liquidedge> Fekkuo, Don't know until you try.
[02:00] <WeThePeople> liquidedge, click properties and you see size and change it appropriately
[02:01] <Fekkuo> It happens that, in Ubuntu 11.10, I was messing with User and Group settings and I changed my only account from Administrator to Standard, and now it doesn't recognize my passwords. How can I get my priviledges back?
[02:01] <WeThePeople> fekkuo, just ask
[02:01] <Ambushed> Hello, can someone help installing driver on 12.04LTS for  Nvidia nvs 5100M on elitebook 8540
[02:01] <Flannel> Fekkuo: What "doesn't recognize [your] password"?
[02:01] <zoogoo> Shit bitchez!!
[02:01] <Fekkuo> Flannel, the OS doesn't
[02:02] <Flannel> Fekkuo: so, you can't login?
[02:02] <Fekkuo> Flannel, the login is automatic
[02:02] <Flannel> Fekkuo: Alright, so what isn't working is when you try to do administrative things?
[02:02] <Fekkuo> Flannel, anything else that would ask for password won't work for me now.
[02:02] <Ambushed> Hello, can someone help installing driver on 12.04LTS for  Nvidia nvs 5100M on elitebook 8540
[02:03] <Fekkuo> Yes!
[02:03] <Flannel> Fekkuo: That's nothing to do with your password then, just the fact that you're no longer an admin.
[02:03] <Ambushed> Hello, can someone help installing driver on 12.04LTS for  Nvidia nvs 5100M on elitebook 8540
[02:03] <Flannel> Fekkuo: Do you have any other accounts that have admin access on this machine?
[02:03] <Fekkuo> Flannel, I have nothing else.
[02:04] <Ambushed> Hello, can someone help installing driver on 12.04LTS for  Nvidia nvs 5100M on elitebook 8540
[02:04] <Flannel> Fekkuo: alright, you'll need to reboot into the recovery console, and then from that (which is a root prompt), youll want to type: `adduser [your-username-without-these-braces] admin`
[02:04] <Flannel> Fekkuo: and that'll do you.
[02:05] <lifvdjkifd> how to configure say command
[02:07] <Fekkuo> Flannel, I wrote it down. Going to try right now. Thank you so much, I wish you happiness. Really. See you around!
[02:11] <pudish> my laptop running ubuntu 12.04 occasionally loses it's touchpad functionality, seemingly after long periods without use (after or during watching a movie for example).  rebooting fixes it, but is there a better, permanent fix?
[02:13] <WeThePeople> how do i hide folders from the show hidden files button ?
[02:16] <drupod> WeThePeople, you can use ctrl + h to show and hide hidden folders
[02:16] <wade1> Hey guys, I installed ubuntu server 12.04 and when it boots past the grub menu the screen isn't displaying right. It looks like all it has is letters/symbols but I can't even make them out. Anyone got any ideas?
[02:17] <edve_> What is the best programming language i coule learn ? On linux ubuntu though lol
[02:18] <edve_> Could *
[02:19] <pudish> edve_:  may i suggest python
[02:20] <smw> edve_, depends on what you plan to program
[02:20] <smw> edve_, and there is no such things as the best programming language
[02:21] <edve_> Sorry i was meaning for the best language conpatibility for any Linux OS
[02:21] <WeThePeople> linux is written in C
[02:22] <SixtyFold> what is the currect LTS of ubuntu?
[02:22] <SixtyFold> nevermind
[02:22] <SixtyFold> i didnt read the topic as fast as i typed
[02:22] <SixtyFold> hahaha
[02:22] <tyler_d> here's about as far ot as it gets, I'm trying to reset a belkin100 wireless AP without a poe injector.
[02:22] <SixtyFold> any suggestion of what is more stable, 11.10 or 12.04?
[02:23] <overclucker> edve_: much of the operating system is written in c/c++, perl and python.
[02:23] <boots728> Hello all.  I am running into some permissions issues and was wondering if anyone could kindly help me out
[02:24] <SixtyFold> is lubuntu officially supported by ubuntu as well btw?
[02:24] <overclucker> edve: but linux isn't limited to a strict set of programming languages, anything goes really.
[02:24] <|Anthony|> what'd ya think, < /dev/urandom tr -dc [:graph:] | head -c${1:-16};echo; a good way to pick a password?
[02:24] <Guest16603> I am having trouble getting the 3d cubes setting of compiz to work
[02:25] <overclucker> |Anthony|: mkpasswd not good enough?
[02:25] <MikeSki333> I am having trouble getting the 3d cubes setting of compiz to work
[02:25] <MikeSki333> Can anyone help?
[02:28] <|Anthony|> i suppose it could be lol
[02:29] <WeThePeople> |anthony|, what does it do?
[02:29] <overclucker> |Anthony|: not that your bashfu isn't excellent
[02:29] <pudish> my laptop running ubuntu 12.04 occasionally loses it's touchpad functionality, seemingly after long periods without use (after or during watching a movie for example).  rebooting fixes it, but is there a better, permanent fix?
[02:30] <DaemonicApathy> How old is the laptop?
[02:31] <bonez2046> What's the best way to open an app, Nautilus for example, so that i have root permissions? Let's say I want to clean up some files but I need root permission for some of them...I open xterm, sudo -i to root and then launch 'nautilus -&'  ... is ther a better way?
[02:31] <pudish> it's fairly new i'd say, it's an MSI gt780dx
[02:31] <|Anthony|> WeThePeople, it generates some random data, sends it to tr which filters out characters on the keyboard (except SPACE) and finally clips it down to 16 characters
[02:32] <DaemonicApathy> bonez2046: just "gksudo nautilus -&"?
[02:32] <bonez2046> DaemonicApathy: so, that's about the same approach...
[02:32] <WeThePeople> |anthony|, so it uses keys not on the keyboard
[02:32] <DaemonicApathy> pudish: Tough for me to say - I wouldn't be sure if that's because of drivers or the actual hardware.
[02:32] <|Anthony|> overclucker, mkpasswd seems to be light on punctuation
[02:33] <DaemonicApathy> bonez2046: About the same, yeah. You could also make a shortcut, if it's something you do regularly.
[02:33] <|Anthony|> WeThePeople, no it uses characters that are found on the keyboard
[02:33] <|Anthony|> put it in terminal and see what it outputs
[02:34] <pudish> DaemonicApathy, i can tell you that i was using windows 7 as recently as 2 days ago, and i've never had an issue.  so i'd have to assume it's a driver issue.  btw, i only just made the switch from windows to linux.  you're dealing with a total newb here >.<
[02:35] <boots728> can anyone help me with permission issues
[02:35] <KM0201> depends on the problem boots728
[02:35] <MTecknology> Where can I find an apt repo for ubuntu that supports IPv6? I don't have any IPv4 addresses available anymore..
[02:36] <WeThePeople> boots728,just ask
[02:38] <boots728> So I have two users, call them ken an larry
[02:38] <blackshirt> boots728: what's your problem ?
[02:38] <boots728> larry is in ken's group and the permissions are set so that ken's group has wrS access (drwxrwSr-x 2 ken ken 4096 2012-10-14 17:20 ken)
[02:39] <boots728> when I switch users to larry and switch his primary group to ken he still can't write to ken's folder
[02:39] <boots728> From what I understand it should work but it isn't
[02:41] <DaemonicApathy> Doesn't that seem to say that ken has the permissions, rather than the group he's in?
[02:41] <blackshirt> DaemonicApathy: sorry
[02:41] <boots728> So it is ken's home directory
[02:41] <boots728> and I added larry to ken's group
[02:41] <boots728> so with the permissions above larry should be able to create files in ken's directory
[02:42] <overclucker> |Anthony|: there's also pwgen, which can be made to behave more like you wrote
[02:42] <DaemonicApathy> For what, blackshirt?
[02:42] <blackshirt> boots728: maybe better you using ACL for them
[02:42] <|Anthony|> mmm
[02:42] <blackshirt> DaemonicApathy: sorry, wrong mentions.. :D
[02:42] <MTecknology> So... it seems there's no IPv6 repos that canonical provides... not even security.ubuntu.com ... wtf
[02:43] <boots728> I want to try and stick with the default access control in Ubuntu
[02:43] <blackshirt> boots728: can you be more detail ?
[02:43] <boots728> what details did you want
[02:44] <boots728> I am sure that I provided all the info I could
[02:44] <boots728> ken has a home directory and I want larry who is in ken's group to have access
[02:44] <fread2281> MTecknology: IPv6 should be supported by default...
[02:44] <boots728> the permissions on ken's dir are drwxrwSr-x 2 ken ken 4096 2012-10-14 17:20 ken
[02:44] <blackshirt> boots728: i'm sitting here just for a seconds
[02:45] <boots728> so larry, who is in ken's group, should have permissions to create files in ken's directory but I am getting a permissions denied
[02:45] <boots728> I have logged out and back in
[02:45] <boots728> and have changed larry's primary group
[02:46] <boots728> sorry thought you were here earlier
[02:46] <tyler_d> what about moe?
[02:46] <boots728> ?
[02:47] <MTecknology> fread2281: it's supported, but the ubuntu repos don't support IPv6 and I don't have any IPv4 addresses available to connect
[02:47] <blackshirt> boots728: have you add larry to ken's group ?
[02:48] <boots728> yes
[02:48] <boots728> results of the command cat /etc/group |grep larry include ken:x:1004:larry,bwk,dmr
[02:56] <sacrebleu> how do I setup subdomains for a server?  ie how do I add irc.myservername.com
[02:58] <blackshirt> boots728:
[03:04] <boots728> is there some other info I can give you?
[03:04] <Guest43789> orale que pasa compas
[03:05] <Guest43789> hey
[03:05] <Guest43789> como me cambio el nombre
[03:05] <simplew> i have d folder  thats owned by root and adm group, i have added myself to adm group, but when i try as user in nautilus to move a file says i dont have permissions, any help?
[03:05] <Guest43789> you need to ask your parents for permission kid, cant' you read
[03:07] <evil> hey
[03:07] <evil> how may i help you sir
[03:08] <zruty> Where can I find previous versions of ubuntu? i.e. 10.04 desktop CD?
[03:09] <evil> in my cd stack
[03:10] <overclucker> simplew: does the command 'groups' have adm in it?
[03:12] <simplew> overclucker: yes
[03:12] <simplew> overclucker: its solved
[03:14] <JustMozzy> hey guys, I am trying to compile the ufasoft bitcoin miner on my ubuntu hardy 64 bit. during compilation it tells me that I need to install libpcre3-dev although it is already installed., I have also tried to reinstall it but with no luck. can anyone help?
[03:15] <simplew> overclucker: when you exit your session and you come back do you see the apps you left open in last session also opened?
[03:15] <evil> no hablo inges
[03:15] <DC> +i
[03:15] <simplew> overclucker: and your terminal window uses to keep the last size used?
[03:16] <DC> bye
[03:16] <overclucker> simplew: dont think so.
[03:16] <gartral> Can anyone suggest a screencasting application that A) can record multiple audio sources and B) uses something other than Theora?
[03:16] <simplew> another buggy sittuation, in kde we can have all that
[03:17] <DC> exit
[03:17] <overclucker> simplew: yup, i use kde on one of my boxes.
[03:19] <gartral> i miss you too baby
[03:19] <gartral> oops >.>
[03:20] <overclucker> haha
[03:25] <bjrohan> What is the best way to set up a desktop system connect to the intenet via DSL in order to access it's files via the internet? I am new to linux but it looks like there are many different ways such as NFS, Samba etc. Primarily I would like to access the computer via my android phone
[03:27] <simplew> overclucker: any hint on why ubuntu used gnome by default when kde is much better in a overall view?
[03:28] <MaskilPDX> Hya all
[03:30] <quim3> Greetings
[03:31] <quim3> testing stuff, sweet BASH :]
[03:31] <evil> hi
[03:32] <quim3> Greetings evil
[03:32] <blackshirt> hi
[03:38] <CaptainKnots> Is there any way to download the deb files for apps I purchased in the Software Center? I've moved to a different distro, but I bought a fair amount of apps from USC
[03:39] <CaptainKnots> and if I can get the deb files, I should be able to use those to install on another distro
[03:39] <CaptainKnots> I know it would be easy enough to do on a debian based distro
[03:41] <overclucker> CaptainKnots: paid apps can be downloaded with apt-get -d install
[03:41] <CaptainKnots> overclucker: last time I checked, gentoo doesn't support apt-get
[03:41] <CaptainKnots> I just need to download the actual deb files
[03:42] <CaptainKnots> so I can extract them to install on gentoo
[03:46] <kelvinella> hi how do I watch m3u8?
[03:46] <evil> with your eyes
[03:47] <Onixs_> O--O
[03:47] <overclucker> CaptainKnots: downloading them on an ubuntu system might be the easiest method.
[03:48] <CaptainKnots> too bad I don't have one of those
[03:48] <CaptainKnots> oh well
[03:49] <overclucker> CaptainKnots: maybe a virtualbox install would work for you.
[03:50] <Tynach> Hello, I have a printer that only understands Postscript (not PDF), an HP Laserjet 1300. When printing documents from LibreOffice, it allows me to change the printer settings to Postscript, and things print fine. However, by default, it prints as a PDF - and this causes it to take several minutes to print even a simple one-page document.
[03:51] <Tynach> All other programs in Ubuntu default to PDF as well, and most do not let me change that in the options. So I'm wondering this: How can I change the default print format to Postscript instead of PDF?
[03:51] <Guest24304> Having problem updating 12.04. Downloading completes correctly then dpkg error occurs and stops everything. Any ideas welcome.
[03:52] <Tynach> Guest24304, what error occurs?
[03:53] <Jordan_U> Tynach: Have you checked all of the options in system-config-printer ?
[03:55] <Tynach> Jordan_U, I thought I had, so I went and double checked. There are indeed no options in system-config-printer for choosing Postscript/PDF.
[03:55] <Guest24304> Tynach, I'll recreate it and print the output in a second.
[03:55] <Tynach> Guest24304, alright. I can't gurantee I'll be able to figure out what's going on, but at the very least knowing what went wrong will help others help you :)
[03:55] <edve> Is ubuntu dying ?
[03:56] <Tynach> edve, no.
[03:57] <Guest24304> dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 0:
[03:57] <Guest24304>  newline in field name `../../../../../share/pyshared/apport/crashdb_impl/multipartpost_handler.py'
[03:57] <Guest24304> Error in function:
[03:57] <Guest24304> SystemError: E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[03:57] <Tynach> Yeah, I have no idea what that means Guest24304. Hope someone else can help.
[03:57] <DaemonicApathy> Guest24304, http://paste.ubuntu.com/ exists precisely for multiline messages like that.
[03:59] <Tynach> Does anyone know anything about changing a printer's default document type from PDF to Postscript?
[03:59] <phix> Hey has the samba4 package been fixed up yet?
[03:59] <phix> or is it still broken? and still using a broken version of samba4?
[04:00] <leotr> hi! is it possible to add something other than preinstalled packages to ubuntu livecd created with UCK (Ubuntu Customization Kit)?
[04:00] <phix> leotr: no idea, I have never tried that before
[04:00] <DaemonicApathy> Btw, Guest24304: try running "sudo dpkg --clear-avail", then rebuild the file using the command "sudo apt-get update"
[04:01] <leotr> phix: thank you
[04:01] <Guest24304> Thanks DaemonicApathy, I'll give that a try and get back.
[04:02] <mohdizhar> hi
[04:03] <phix> mohdizhar: oh hai there
[04:03] <mohdizhar> i have problem with NIC card running ubuntu 10.1
[04:04] <gartral> Can anyone suggest a screencasting application that A) can record multiple audio sources and B) uses something other than Theora?
[04:05] <Guest31636> has anyone used macchanger before? is eth1 always the default internet device?
[04:05] <Guest31636> I was Guest31636 but changed my name to this
[04:06] <Tynach> Guest31636, your nick is still Guest31636.
[04:06] <wols> Guest31636: it's not.and you can change MAC simply with ifconfig
[04:06] <Tynach> Type '/nick <new_nick>' to change nicknames, Guest31636.
[04:09] <mohdizhar> who can help me... my NIC card have error firmware... failed to grab the new firmware?
[04:10] <wols> mohdizhar: which network chip?
[04:12] <kroog> sup
[04:13] <kroog> does anyone kno how 3 play netflux
[04:14] <Tynach> Does anyone know anything about changing a printer's default document type from PDF to Postscript?
[04:14] <wols> kroog: not possible under Linux. a Windows virtual machine should work
[04:14] <agrester> Ok if Bekks is here I finally have the output of fdisk
[04:14] <Guest56347> i luv ubuntu no doubt abt it but theres sumthing abt ubuntu thats not quite on par with windows.
[04:14] <kroog> yeah the color scheme
[04:14] <kroog> it's all...off
[04:14] <Guest24304> DaemonicApathy: Thankyou, I see I have a lot to learn about dpkg. I was unaware that command existed.  I was also unaware of the paste.ubuntu.com.
[04:14] <Galaxor> My radeon 7750 with fglrx works for like a second after X starts up, and then there's a flash, and then the screen is frozen.  I can't get to the virtual consoles, but I can ssh into the box.
[04:14] <Galaxor> Any advice on that?
[04:15] <wols> Guest31636: tried the radeon driver?
[04:15] <agrester> Recap: trying to install a second Ubuntu on the following partition scheme [WindowsXP][Empty][Primary Ubuntu][swap]
[04:16] <wols> Guest31636: also you might need a newer fglrx https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Manually_installing_Catalyst_12.6
[04:16] <agrester> Where there's [Empty] I want to install a second Ubuntu so that I can cleanly have both Unity (testing) and XFCE (production), any help or clues on how to do the second install using the Ubuntu install tool?
[04:16] <Guest56347> am i the only one who doesnt like the new ubuntu? it tries to be what its not. ubuntu should be jst abt the old classic gnome. if it were to become something else it should NOT BE LIKE APPLEOS
[04:17] <evil> try xubuntu
[04:17] <gartral> Guest56347: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[04:17] <wols> agrester: just install to the empty space and then install grub2 to the partition and not the MBR
[04:17] <agrester> wols, how do I do this using the Graphical tool the "other options"
[04:17] <Guest56347> i knw abt xubuntu/gnome-shell and all that what im saying is ubuntu is very much pushing unity as its flagship and i think thats a mistake
[04:17] <Guest56347> unity is not a very good design
[04:18] <wols> Guest31636: this is a support channel, not an advocacy channel. please respect that
[04:18] <wols> Guest56347: ^^
[04:18] <Tynach> Guest56347, classic Gnome is going away, for better or worse. If you want something else, try Xfce, Gnome Shell, KDE, LXDE, or any other number of different desktop environments.
[04:18] <agrester> Guest56347: Unity is great, it's just really new...Mac OS had over 10 years to develop it, so Unity just needs to mature, I remember when Mac OS X first came out it was ugly as anything...
[04:19] <Guest56347> ive used all that mentioned im jst not happy abt unity thats all
[04:19] <Guest56347> unity should not be the new ubuntu.
[04:19] <Guest56347> ubuntu needs a new design
[04:19] <wols> Guest56347: do you have a technical ubuntu problem?
[04:19] <Guest56347> nope
[04:19] <Tynach> Guest56347, keep in mind Unity was originally developed to minimize screen space usage on netbooks. That's why it merges the menus and title bar at the top.
[04:19] <wols> then please shut up
[04:20] <aeon-ltd> please go to ot then
[04:20] <Guest56347> oooookkkkkkk
[04:20] <agrester> wols: how do I do this?
[04:21] <Tynach> agrester, you install Ubuntu as normal, but when it comes to partitioning, you decide to use a custom partition system. You make sure to only create a new partition in the empty space, and that should be that.
[04:21] <Guest31636> I have a quick question. If I use the macadress of one computer (computer 1) on copy it onto anther  computer (computer 2) is there anyway for the network to distinguish computer 2 from computer 1 assuming that they are not running at the same time
[04:21] <wols> agrester: long time since I installed ubuntu, so I don't know the specifics. can't you create a partition?
[04:22] <agrester> wols: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall
[04:22] <jagginess> Guest31636, your network traffic will get corrupted for each computer.. that's why mac-addresses are unique
[04:23] <saquib> :)
[04:23] <wols> agrester: yes: "something else"
[04:23] <agrester> the "do something else" step takes to the graphical partition and installation manager, then you can manually select which partition to install to. I just want to get i right because last time I tried this I ended up bricking the machine...
[04:23] <wols> agrester: should give you a fdisk program for partitioning
[04:23] <Guest31636> jagginess: i am aware of that. But what would happen if I shutdown computer1 and started up computer 2
[04:24] <jagginess> Guest31636, it depends on arp cache and how strict the routing equipment is
[04:24] <Tynach> Does anyone know anything about changing a printer's default document type from PDF to Postscript?
[04:25] <jagginess> Guest31636, if the routing or switch equipment allows multiple mac-addresses on the port (which usually is a 'yes' for home equipment), then there's no problem.. but there really is nothing new about this.. this affects only the lan network, and wouldn't give you any "hack" advantage even if you were thinking over the internet
[04:26] <phix> Any command that will tell me the type of ram installed on a computer ?
[04:26] <phix> (a computer running ubuntu that is)
[04:27] <Guest31636> jagginess: what I want to do is download a torrent, a legal one (some wallpaper) , but those are still banned. So my question is could I use a Kios computer's mac address and hide my mac address so that they don't know it is me who is downloading the torrent.
[04:27] <phix> or the brand and model number of it? without having to take the side off?
[04:27] <jagginess> Guest31636, I answered your dumb question already
[04:27] <Tynach> Guest31636, why not download the wallpaper at home, or find a non-torrent for the wallpaper?
[04:27] <Guest31636> jagginess:  well the main difference is that my current mac address is tied to my name
[04:28] <phix> Guest31636: so who doesn't know?
[04:28] <jagginess> Guest31636, I already answered your dumb question. Read it properly again.
[04:28] <phix> Guest31636: just download it off your phone using your mobile connection
[04:29] <Guest31636> Tynach: I am at college right now
[04:29] <alien2050> phix: try "dmesg" it might get some of that info for you
[04:29] <Guest31636> phix: I don't own a smartphone
[04:29] <jagginess> Guest31636, american?
[04:29] <Tynach> Guest31636, I have never heard of wallpapers being available only as a torrent.
[04:29]  * jagginess *figures*
[04:29] <phix> Guest31636: Buy an android <3 then install Ubuntu on it, then you will be within topic again :)
[04:30] <phix> alien2050: hmmmmm, ok, so you dont know of any commands that can tell me this or fish it out of /proc or /sys ?
[04:30] <alien2050> phix: there's also "dmidecode" but not sure if will work on Ubuntu
[04:31] <Guest31636> Tynach: I have this torrent for social wallpaper
[04:31] <alien2050> yeah dmidecode should work fine I just tried it
[04:31] <Guest31636> Tynach: they used to use torrents to download large amounts of their wallpaper connection, like over 250.
[04:32] <alien2050> phix: there's a manufacturer and part model (if it can decode it properly)
[04:33] <Tynach> Guest31636, why not simply change your Mac address to whatever, download the torrent, then change it back? Does it have to mimic another computer on the network?
[04:33] <alien2050> phix: it will at least tell you the precise quantity info, otherwise you can always fish the motherboard model and look at the specs on their websites.... all depends what you re trying to do
[04:33] <Guest31636> Tynach: because the university requires that all computers have an authorized mac address and to get a new mac address authorized you must put in your username and password
[04:34] <Tynach> Guest31636, alright, fair enough. So how about just downloading the torrent? If anyone asks, you can just show them it's wallpapers. If they search your computer, they will only find the wallpapers. It might be a hassle, but so what? Certainly easier than going through all this trouble.
[04:35] <Guest31636> Tynach: because I don't want to deal with having my connection shut off when they investigate
[04:35] <Tynach> And do you know for sure they would investigate?
[04:36] <phix> alien2050: thnx, that worked like a charm
[04:36] <Guest31636> Tynach: I doubt they will, but I just don't want to deal with that problem
[04:37] <alien2050> phix: no problemo
[04:37] <solitude88> Hey guys is this a desktop or server channel... or both?
[04:37] <phix> wooo! GA-M55PLUS-S3G!
[04:37] <phix> <3 that program
[04:37] <Tynach> solitude88, I believe it's both.
[04:37] <alien2050> hehehe
[04:38] <solitude88> cool thanks Tynach!
[04:38] <Tynach> Since you can have server software on your desktop, and desktop software on your server.
[04:38] <Tynach> The lines blur significantly.
[04:38] <solitude88> very true
[04:38] <overclucker> Guest31636: get a vpn
[04:39] <Tynach> Guest31636, have you ever heard of other people getting their net cut off and investigated if they did torrents?
[04:39] <Tynach> Or are you just overly paranoid?
[04:40] <akis> hi all. any idea why my xubuntu 12.04 cannot play system sounds on some applications (orage, thunderbird) althought i have already enable system sound in 'appeareance' and i have installed 'canberra'?
[04:41] <simplew> i have isntalled kde in ubuntu and now when running kde, synaptic windows is with TOO BIG fonts, how can this be fixed?
[04:42] <beydi> hey
[04:42] <Tynach> simplew, in KDE you have to force using 96 DPI or it freaks out on some programs. To do this, go to System Settings, Common Appearance and Behavior, Application Appearance, Fonts. There should be a checkbox for 'Force DPI', and make sure it's 96.
[04:43] <simplew> Tynach: i did but synpatic continues with BIG fonts
[04:44] <Tynach> simplew, did you try logging out/back in?
[04:44] <simplew> Tynach: no
[04:50] <Tynach> Does anyone know anything about changing a printer's default document type from PDF to Postscript?
[04:53] <wubino> I am trying to add driver support for a hd radeon 6670
[04:53] <wubino> I keep on getting an error during install
[04:54] <wubino> here is the error log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280530/
[04:54] <wubino> FWIW: i did a completely new install of ubuntu 12.04
[04:54] <ChrisWhat> so did i
[04:54] <crizis^> wubino, are you trying to install 'post release' updates with additional drivers?
[04:55] <wubino> crizis^: yes
[04:55] <crizis^> that won't work
[04:55] <wubino> oh
[04:55] <crizis^> either install regular driver, or install that from console
[04:55] <crizis^> with: sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates
[04:55] <wubino> will do
[04:56] <wubino> crizis^,: is there a PPA better suited then the managed packaged driver?
[04:56] <crizis^> that was broken even in back in 11.10.. dno why they won't fix it already
[04:56] <crizis^> well, driver is quite current so don't bother
[04:56] <wubino> great
[04:56] <crizis^> fglrx-updates is catalyst 12.4
[04:56] <crizis^> regular one is iirc 11.8
[04:56] <crizis^> having 6870 myself and just running that regular one
[04:57] <crizis^> haven't really noticed any performance difference in games.. then again these cards are almost 2 years already so doubt drivers will improve them much
[04:58] <wubino> crizis^: whats the best opencl install method for an ati card?
[04:58] <crizis^> ati's drivers are basically just stubs that translate opengl calls to hardware anyway.. nvidia's drivers are pretty much artificial intelligence on their own, optimizing themselves at runtime
[04:59] <crizis^> haven't done any opencl stuff so no idea.. :)
[04:59] <wubino> crizis^: I loved my nvidia cards but this was the best bang for buck I could find
[05:00] <crizis^> ati has better hardware generally (not just performance), but nvidia has a lot of money in drivers
[05:01] <wubino> thanks for the info
[05:01] <crizis^> not that there's anything wrong with ati drivers.. it's usually much simplier to figure out what's wrong with your opengl code with ati since drivers are relatively straightforward :-)
[05:02] <werdnativ> setting up upstart scripts for my app server… Is there a way to allow my regular user to restart it?
[05:04] <Tynach> werdnativ, you can set up in the 'sudoers' file to let them run only specific commands as root.
[05:04] <werdnativ> Tynach: specific command includes arguments too, or would that allow restart anything?
[05:05] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> How can I remove a file like this? tcl_archive.tcl?mode=download&id=49
[05:06] <Tynach> werdnativ, first of all, you restart things by doing "sudo service <service> restart". You can make it so that they can do "sudo service <service> <anything>", or you can make it so they can ONLY restart, or make it so they can do anything to any service, etc. It's very flexible.
[05:06] <extropy> why does using the Alt-[Left arrow] hotkey in firefox popup the ubuntu "type your command" dialog? Isn't the window framework supposed to prevent things like this? who's to blame?
[05:06] <vanity> [_-S1L3NC3-_]:  rm -rf "<file_name>"  is not work?
[05:06] <somsip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: rm tcl{press tab}
[05:06] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[05:07] <werdnativ> if the job runs as the regular user (I'm using su currently), shouldn't the user be able to signal it without sudo?
[05:08] <Tynach> werdnativ, they have to put 'sudo' in front of the command.
[05:08] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ty
[05:09] <werdnativ> Tynach: ok. I seem to have something like this working on another server, but I think it was done with runit.
[05:09] <Codenomics> howyd
[05:09] <Codenomics> what is the best way to have an application autostart?
[05:10] <extropy> huh, only seems to do it intermittently ... still annoying as hell
[05:11] <extropy> part of it probably has something to do with the fact that this particular computer I'm using is especially slow (ubuntu catches the Alt-key before Firefox even detects it, perhaps?)
[05:11] <extropy> yay ... multithreading >.<
[05:11] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> How can I extract this? tcl_archive.tcl?mode=download&id=49
[05:12] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i tried tar and unzip
[05:12] <Tynach> werdnativ, put something like this in the sudoers file: "<username> ALL = /etc/init.d/apache2 restart" to let them restart the apache web server, for example.
[05:12] <somsip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: rename it to zip so unzip recognises it
[05:12] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[05:12] <Tynach> They would have to type: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[05:12] <Tynach> And if it differs at all from that, it will not let them.
[05:13] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> it still wont
[05:14] <tacirus> Hello, does anybody know if there is a metacity channel (specifically for Metacity WM? ) or I can put a question right here too?
[05:14] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> unzip "lol.zip"
[05:14] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> Archive:  lol.zip
[05:14] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]>   End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[05:14] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]>   a zipfil
[05:14] <somsip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: what did you download? from egghelp?
[05:14] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> yes
[05:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> an script from their
[05:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ohh
[05:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> bot identifier
[05:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> an identify script
[05:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> http://www.egghelp.org/cgi-bin/tcl_archive.tcl?mode=download&id=49
[05:15] <FloodBot1> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:16] <werdnativ> Tynach:  init.d isn't even upstart, but it looks like it can only be managed by root or sudo. I think what I'm looking for is specifically a runit feature. Thanks, though: http://smarden.org/runit/faq.html#user
[05:16] <somsip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: how did you download it? Browser or command line?
[05:16] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> command line
[05:16] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> running on ubuntu
[05:16] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i tried wget "downloadlink"
[05:16] <Transfuta> use gzip -d
[05:16] <Tynach> werdnativ, upstart is Ubuntu's replacement for SysVInit, and it aims to be backwards compatible with it... Including using the same folder path.
[05:16] <Transfuta> originally it's a .tcl.gz file
[05:16] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[05:17] <werdnativ> right, I guess upstart still uses the same scripts from init.d, that's true.
[05:17] <somsip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: wget is not following the redirect so you have downloaded an HTML file
[05:18] <werdnativ> I was hoping the /etc/init/ scripts had some user control options, besides just setuid & setgid
[05:18] <overclucker> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: wget "http://www.egghelp.org/cgi-bin/tcl_archive.tcl?mode=download&id=49" -O download.zip
[05:19] <somsip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: wget "http://www.egghelp.org/files/tcl/bot_identifyer04.tcl.gz"
[05:19] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> nvm i got anoter download that worked
[05:19] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> thanks anyway
[05:21] <Tynach> werdnativ, you don't WANT that. You want only root (or specialized users, such as a 'mysql' user for the mysql server) to have access to the files in that folder. It's a security feature.
[05:21] <werdnativ> yeah, the files in that folder should be root. I'm talking about managing the processes they spin off.
[05:22] <robertzaccour> my webcam display is upside down all of a sudden. any suggestions?
[05:23] <Tynach> werdnativ, I'm afraid that's up to the processes themselves, not the init scripts. For example, MySQL has its own user system.
[05:24] <Tynach> robertzaccour, is your webcam upside down? Is it only in one program and not other programs?
[05:25] <Jordan_U> werdnativ: For privilege de-escalation you can simply use "su some_user -c some_command"
[05:25] <robertzaccour> Tynach, it sits on top of the monitor and has always worked fine til a few minutes ago.
[05:26] <werdnativ> Jordan_U: yes, I'm using su some_user in the init script. My point is that some_user can't issue restart to their own process without sudo.
[05:27] <Baralabite> Does anyone know of any "one command install" programs to install a mailserver + webclient for ubuntu?
[05:27] <werdnativ> upstart says: restart: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", … which looks like there is some logic behind allowing it to happen?
[05:27] <Baralabite> When I say "one command" I mean small # of commands, not litterly one
[05:28] <blackshirt> !squirrelmail | baralabite
[05:28] <Baralabite> -waiting for ubottu to inform me about squirrel mail-
[05:29] <Baralabite> If I install squirrel mail, do I still have to install the AntiVirus, Postfix, etc?
[05:30] <blackshirt> haha
[05:30] <Tynach> robertzaccour, is it only in one program, or more than one?
[05:30] <blackshirt> baralabite, if you sit on gateway,maybe you need them
[05:31] <robertzaccour> Tynach, I'm updating right now so not able to install anything atm
[05:31] <Baralabite> Okay... I'll look into it
[05:31] <Baralabite> It's just that the last "mail server" tutorial I tried had, quite litterly 500 commands
[05:31] <aidenfrost> its only neccessary if you are in gateway
[05:32] <tacirus> Folks. does anybody know if one can and how add new custom keybindings to Metacity WM in Ubuntu. I need more than predefined 12 pieces it has in it. But as I create a new binding I can read below that the key has no schema and the command doesn`t execute.
[05:35] <robertzaccour> Tynach, finished updating, gonna restart and brb
[05:35] <Tynach> Ok.
[05:38] <robertzaccour> Tynach, updating didn't work
[05:38] <robertzaccour> Tynach, cheese displays it properly
[05:39] <Tynach> robertzaccour, if one program shows it properly, and another doesn't, I'd ask in the channel for the program that doesn't work right.
[05:39] <robertzaccour> Tynach, guvcview has a channel?
[05:39] <Tynach> robertzaccour, possibly.
[05:40] <alusion> I need a way to download youtube videos in an....effecient manner <:-{D  cheers
[05:41] <somsip> alusion: youtube-dl ?
[05:41] <xangua> plenty of addons for firefox that do that alusionsi
[05:42] <robertzaccour> alusion, Try Download Helper firefox add on
[05:43] <robertzaccour> Tynach, removing and reinstalling didn't work. I'm gonna boot into unity instead and try then
[05:43] <zoogoo> finally got a wordlist for wpa bruteforcing
[05:44] <zoogoo> 4gb in size
[05:44] <somsip> !illegal
[05:45] <robertzaccour> Tynach, Same issue in Unity
[05:45] <Tynach> robertzaccour, I don't think it's a desktop environment thing. I think you should look into the program you're using that's showing the camera wrong, and find some people who are responsible for that program and ask them.
[05:56] <Tynach> Does anyone know anything about changing a printer's default document type from PDF to Postscript?
[05:57] <zetheroo> I am trying to get these network mounts to automount via fstab .. and I had this working on another system previously ... but I cannot recall where to set the username and password credentials for the mounts! In dmesg I am seeing this "[    6.626900] CIFS VFS: No username specified" which I think may be connected to the issue!?
[05:58] <Baralabite> Hey guys, I'm continually getting an error of "ERROR: Connection dropped by IMAP server." when I try to open squirrelmail, any clues to what is wrong?
[05:58] <charleyfoxtrot> just upgraded to 12.10 ... fglrx seems to have broke . Unity wasn't starting (no toolbar, no launcher) until I did "sudo apt-get remove --purge fglxr fglxr-amdcccle"
[05:59] <xangua> !12.10 | charleyfoxtrot
[05:59] <charleyfoxtrot> thanks xangua
[06:00] <KM0201> Baralabite: did you check squirrelmail's website, they have several potential causes for that error.
[06:00] <Baralabite> Thanks, I'll take a look
[06:01] <KM0201> Baralabite: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/MailServerIMAPProblem
[06:01] <Baralabite> Thanks
[06:01] <Baralabite> Ahha....
[06:02] <suigeneris> hi
[06:02] <suigeneris> I need urgent help
[06:03] <suigeneris> I installed xen yesterday, and rebooted
[06:04] <suigeneris> now I boot the computer, it runs for a while and goes to sleep
[06:04] <suigeneris> can't wake it
[06:04] <suigeneris> goes to sleep even before the OS
[06:05] <Jordan_U> suigeneris: How did you install Xen?
[06:05] <suigeneris> !xen
[06:05] <suigeneris> Jordan_U: from this factoid
[06:07] <codenomics> howdy
[06:07] <Baralabite> G'day
[06:07] <Baralabite> I'm working through this tutorial, (http://www.unixmen.com/install-squirrel-mail-on-ubuntu-server/) but I've gotten stuck at this command: /usr/lib/courier-imap/bin/maildirmake -S /home/user/Maildir
[06:08] <Baralabite> The directory doesn't exist (/user/lib...)
[06:08] <codenomics> say I want to use term command to run a pythin file, but I want to be able to close the term afterwards
[06:08] <Baralabite> *usr
[06:08] <codenomics> what command would I use?
[06:08] <codenomics> want to start the app and that is it, dont want it to continue printing out stuffs
[06:08] <suigeneris> Jordan_U: any ideas?
[06:09] <blackshirt> baralabite, what version tutorial was on?
[06:09] <Baralabite> Version of what sorry?
[06:10] <Baralabite> If you meant version of squirrelmail blackshirt, I believe it was 1.4.21
[06:10] <blackshirt> baralabite, ubuntu version in tutorials
[06:10] <gogeta> codenomics: lol I used to know that command
[06:10] <Jordan_U> suigeneris: Try holding shift and booting one of the non-xen entries from the grub menu.
[06:10] <Baralabite> I don't know, it looks like an older one though
[06:10] <Baralabite> I'm using 12.04
[06:11] <Baralabite> It seems to be using the old screen manager (Gdm?)
[06:11] <blackshirt> baralabite, maybe
[06:12] <chronofusion1980> Ok Razor Blackwidow Ultimate keyboard here in Xubuntu 12.04 x64.  Trying to get M keys on the left to work.
[06:12] <chronofusion1980> I have googled my butt off and either I don't understand how to go about getting it done or I haven't found correct solution
[06:13] <Baralabite> blackshirt: I'll quickly look up a different version of tutorial
[06:13] <suigeneris> Jordan_U: holding shift doesn't help. any other way?
[06:14] <Jordan_U> suigeneris: Holding shift during boot doesn't bring you to a grub menu?
[06:14] <suigeneris> nope
[06:14] <chronofusion1980> Any ideas?  Anyone?
[06:14] <Jordan_U> suigeneris: Can you boot from a LiveCD/USB?
[06:14] <blackshirt> baralabite, commonly for the newer version,thats not needed
[06:14] <suigeneris> right, livecd
[06:16] <chronofusion1980> M keys on Razor blackwidow Ultimate to work in ubuntu 12.04 64 bit...anyone?
[06:16] <gogeta> codemaniac: the screen command is what you whant
[06:16] <somsip> !patience | chronofusion1980
[06:16] <Baralabite> -back-
[06:17] <MaGeD_> Hello
[06:17] <MaGeD_> if i have a machine with Ubunto 10.04 LTS server installed , and i wanted to install desktop environment " sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop " will this going to overwrite or delete any of my existing files in my home directory  ?
[06:18] <jalexandru> Hi, I'm having trouble printing, I use cups, I can access localhost:631 but if I want to go to https://localhost:631/admin?OP=add-printer I get error: No data received, also in /var/log/cups/error_log I get permission denied any help is appriciated
[06:18] <blackshirt> baralabite, if you want mail server with webclient frontend, some packages has available on repository
[06:18] <Baralabite> :}
[06:18] <Baralabite> -can see the light at the end of the tunnel!-
[06:19] <suigeneris> Jordan_U: I need to chroot, right?
[06:19] <Baralabite> What might be their names, I've been googling around for the last few months (although not continually xP) trying to find out how to do this
[06:20] <gogeta> codemaniac: ctrl+a then d it will detach the prossses then ifbyou whant it back screen -r
[06:21] <Jordan_U> suigeneris: That is one option.
[06:21] <gogeta> been a wile sense I did that heh
[06:22] <suigeneris> Jordan_U: I meant chrooting and updating grub from there
[06:22] <chronofusion1980> ubottu I already searched the typical ubuntu forums, askubuntu..etc.  this is a special case.
[06:24] <ner0x> Goodmorning, how can I stop my Xorg server so that I may run Xorg -configure ?
[06:24] <Baralabite> from terminal:
[06:24] <Baralabite> sudo stop xorg
[06:24] <Baralabite> I think
[06:24] <Baralabite> Don't quote me though
[06:24] <FloodBot1> Baralabite: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:24] <ner0x> Baralabite: Unknown Job: xorg
[06:24] <mcmlxxi> !chroot
[06:24] <Baralabite> Or else, try using: sudo stop x
[06:24] <gogeta> lol no
[06:25] <ner0x> I haven't have this issue in forever. And it's odd I can't find it in the ps auxf.
[06:25] <ner0x> I assumed it would be x11-common in /etc/init.d/ but I was wrong.
[06:25] <Baralabite> Note: Ner0x, once you type in sudo stop x, you'll have to do all the work from tty1/6
[06:25] <Baralabite> i think
[06:25] <Baralabite> I don't really know :3
[06:25] <gogeta> service ldm restart
[06:26] <gogeta> that will restart x
[06:26] <Baralabite> I generally use: sudo restart lightdm
[06:26] <mcmlxxi> Jordan_U: this is suigeneris. I forget how to chroot. can you tell me?
[06:26] <Baralabite> or sudo stop lightdm
[06:26] <tacirus> I have an icon in the upper panel that foesn`t show the actual keyboard layout. Where do I fix it?
[06:26] <gogeta> lightdm that's correct
[06:26] <tacirus> I didn`t find anything in the keybaord settings
[06:27] <ner0x> gogeta: That may work.
[06:27] <ner0x> Amazing the simple things you forever when you don't do them often.
[06:27] <Baralabite> blackshirt: What might be the names of the packges on the repo, I found sqwebmail, but I don't really like it...
[06:28] <gogeta> well it used to be gem but they use lighten now
[06:28] <gogeta> lightdm
[06:28] <Baralabite> *gdm
[06:28] <ner0x> Baralabite: Right, I was actually looking for gdm. Even though technicaly I'm on Xubuntu
[06:28] <Baralabite> Ahh, okay
[06:28] <gogeta> yea auto correct hell
[06:29] <Baralabite> Just throwing it out there - does anyone know how to log into sqwebmail?
[06:30] <blackshirt> baralabite, usually with user on system
[06:31] <Baralabite> I understand that, but where?
[06:31] <Baralabite> like: http://localhost/sqwebmail/?
[06:31] <Baralabite> (Which doesn't work)
[06:31] <ner0x> Be back in a second gentlemen, have to restart to see if this worked.
[06:32] <Baralabite> Ahha!
[06:32] <Baralabite> <IP_ADDRESS>/cgi-bin/sqwebmail
[06:33] <Baralabite> Internal error (module sqconfig.c, line 76) - contact system administrator -_-
[06:33] <Baralabite> I'm getting sick of these errors
[06:33] <Baralabite> It doesn't tell me enough to fix it
[06:38] <Baralabite> If only my budget wasn't $0 - other wise this looks great... http://atmail.com/
[06:39] <mcmlxxi> Jordan_U: are you there? you said chroot was one option. what's another option?
[06:40] <idefix> what is an x terminal emulator good for?
[06:40] <Baralabite> idefix: For emulating the x terminal!
[06:41] <mcmlxxi> I get these when I try to update-grub2 in chroot: /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 34: /usr/share/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib: cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[06:41] <Baralabite> Sorry.. I just had to :}
[06:41] <somsip> idefix: it allows you to use a termina lin X
[06:41] <idefix> Baralabite somsip, what's the difference between the x-terminal that already exists?
[06:41] <Baralabite> I've no clue - I was just kiddin'
[06:42] <somsip> idefix: between that and what?
[06:42] <Guest42475> I cannot log any longer normally, I am facing a graphic glitch on login screen
[06:42] <idefix> you see, I could already use x-terminal now I get this update suggestion for the x-terminal emulator..
[06:42] <Baralabite> Guest: Try what I say:
[06:42] <Baralabite> I don't know if it's any good but:
[06:43] <Guest42475> Sorry trying to change my name :-)
[06:43] <Baralabite> Press: Ctrl+Alt+F1
[06:43] <Baralabite> Type in your login details
[06:43] <Baralabite> Then type in sudo start lightdm
[06:43] <Guest42475> Thank you Baralabite
[06:43] <Baralabite> and re-type in your password
[06:43] <Baralabite> It may not be any good :/
[06:43] <idefix> somsip?
[06:44] <Guest42475> So once the boot has opened and I am presented with the login screen to input password and username, there is one single colour all over the screen
[06:44] <somsip> idefix: < somsip> idefix: between that and what?
[06:44] <Guest42475> @ Bara I am using an ATI card
[06:45] <Baralabite> Guest42475: Okay, does BIOS show correctly?
[06:45] <Guest42475> I have installed the drivers from AMD, but it was fine until this morning
[06:45] <Guest42475> Yep everything
[06:45] <Baralabite> And is it a laptop, or desktop?
[06:45] <Guest42475> GRUB seeems fine too, I have my windows 7 and Ubuntu presented to me
[06:45] <Guest42475> Desktop
[06:45] <Baralabite> So, windows 7 works fine, but not ubuntu?
[06:45] <timfrost> mcmlxxi: how was the chroot environment set up?  That error suggests that you haven't set up /dev in the chroot ( see http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1156240.html for an example)
[06:45] <Guest42475> Everything boots normally until the login screen
[06:46] <Baralabite> Okay, just try this again:
[06:46] <Baralabite> CTRL+ALT+F1
[06:46] <Guest42475> when it's all corrupt and I can't type neither password nor username, not choose my Ubu session (gnome/unity)
[06:46] <Baralabite> Type in the login details
[06:46] <Baralabite> Then: sudo restart lightdm
[06:46] <Ex0deus> hmm
[06:46] <Guest42475> Actually I am using Ubuntu but an older version...
[06:46] <Ex0deus> so your screen looks all messed up?
[06:46] <Baralabite> And see how what I just suggested goes
[06:47] <Guest42475> sort of yes
[06:47] <Guest42475> do I type that after the boot finished or before?
[06:47] <Ex0deus> it could simply be an incorrect setting in your xorg.conf ... a bad refresh tate
[06:47] <Ex0deus> rate even
[06:48] <Guest42475> I am using the previous kernel....31 I believe
[06:48] <Guest42475> .31
[06:48] <Ex0deus> 2.31?
[06:48] <Guest42475> It is happening with the new one
[06:48] <Ex0deus> 2.6.31
[06:48] <Guest42475> yes that one
[06:48] <Poent> what does the "network" and "broadcast" options specify in the network/interface config?
[06:48] <Baralabite> What is apache's "username"
[06:48] <somsip> Baralabite: www-data
[06:48] <Baralabite> Thanks
[06:49] <Guest42475> Funny it was working all fine until this morning
[06:49] <Baralabite> That did it somsip
[06:49] <Ex0deus> hmm
[06:49] <Guest42475> I thought maybe the graphic drivers corrupted it but I am typing this from the previous kernel and same drivers
[06:49] <Guest42475> on the same machine
[06:50] <Guest42475> @Bara when do I type this: CTRL+ALT+F1?
[06:50] <Poent> found the answer to my question at: http://linux.about.com/od/ubusrv_doc/a/ubusg17t03.htm
[06:50] <Ex0deus> hmm
[06:51] <Ex0deus> Guest42475: you would do that at the spot where the loginscreen should be
[06:51] <mcmlxxi> I get error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?). even though I have /dev mounted. any ideas?
[06:51] <Ex0deus> that should just change your terminal... probably to tty1 i believe
[06:52] <Ex0deus> where if all is ok... you should see a shell login
[06:52] <Ex0deus> if you don't... try ctrl+alt+f2 or f3
[06:53] <Ex0deus> that will allow you to login to a shell... then from the shell we can try and figure out whats wrong... and fix it..
[06:53] <aneek> does anyone knows how to create portable apps for ubuntu /linux?
[06:54] <Techna_Rave_Pony> I don't know how, but I have tools that package them
[06:55] <aneek> techna whts that tool
[06:55] <aneek> ?
[06:55] <Techna_Rave_Pony> it's two or three tools, I picked them up a few years back
[06:56] <aneek> can u tell me name techna ?
[06:56] <Techna_Rave_Pony> the site was taken down
[06:56] <Techna_Rave_Pony> I can only do as good as to tar them and megaupload them
[06:57] <mcmlxxi> I get error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?). even though I have /dev mounted. any ideas?
[06:57] <mcmlxxi> I'm in chroot
[06:57] <aneek> i don't think that it ill make them protable
[06:57] <aneek> i need something like thininstall for window
[06:57] <Techna_Rave_Pony> Oh
[06:58] <Poent> what is the first room you get connect to on irc called?
[06:58] <Poent> before you join a channel
[06:58] <Techna_Rave_Pony> that's the server itself
[06:58] <somsip> Poent: status
[06:58] <MaGeD_> if i have a machine with Ubunto 10.04 LTS server installed , and i wanted to install desktop environment " sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop " will this going to overwrite or delete any of my existing files in my home directory ?
[06:58] <MaGeD_> anyone ? :)
[06:59] <Poent> MaGeD_: you totally shouldnt install a GUI
[06:59] <Ex0deus> aneek: have you checked out
[06:59] <Ex0deus> man chroot
[07:00] <MaGeD_> Poent : Thanks , well it's not like a critical machine ,,
[07:00] <MaGeD_> just for personal usage
[07:00] <Techna_Rave_Pony> Upgrade to Quantal Time, should only take a few hours, right?
[07:00] <Poent> MaGeD_: there are some good tutorials though. here is one: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-gui-in-ubuntu-server.html
[07:01] <MaGeD_> thanks
[07:01] <somsip> Techna_Rave_Pony: 12.10 is not released yet so it should not be recommended as an upgrade
[07:01] <Poent> MaGeD_: sure thing, that is a bit out of date though. you may need to search around a bit if you run into issues
[07:01] <Techna_Rave_Pony> It's my personal machine, I use it for movies and games and stuff
[07:02] <Techna_Rave_Pony> I use bleeding edge stuff anyway
[07:02] <Techna_Rave_Pony> plus, release in the next week
[07:02] <somsip> Techna_Rave_Pony: you can use what you want, it's just not good form to recommed to others
[07:02] <Techna_Rave_Pony> I know
[07:02] <Techna_Rave_Pony> I wasn't reccomending anything
[07:04] <somsip> Techna_Rave_Pony: fair enough.
[07:04] <Techna_Rave_Pony> Goodbye for now
[07:09] <Poent> anything on 192.168 should have a boradcast address of 1.255 right?
[07:12] <chronofusion1980> Trying to get Xubuntu 12.04 x64 to recognize the M keys on lefthand side of Razor Blackwidow Utlimate 2013 keyboard to set up hotkeys
[07:12]  * Calinou shrugs
[07:12] <Calinou> have fun ignoring these keys
[07:13] <chronofusion1980> ?? Calinou were you talking to or about me?
[07:18] <chronofusion1980> And in case anyone wants to suggest this, I have already searched the ubuntu forums, askubuntu, etc
[07:20] <somsip> chronofusion1980: Does this help? http://superuser.com/questions/342107/getting-macro-keys-from-a-razer-blackwidow-to-work-on-linux
[07:21]  * Baralabite laughed when looked at url
[07:23] <ignaciojesus1> ç/help list
[07:24] <somsip> !list | ignaciojesus1
[07:24] <Baralabite> I think I found it!
[07:25] <Baralabite> The gold at the end of the rainbow!
[07:25] <Baralabite> Citadel suite!
[07:26] <ner0x> Baralabite: Alright, got it working.
[07:27] <Baralabite> I've forgotten what you were working on... I've been tied up with webmail :3
[07:27] <poent> is there an easy way to tell if i'm identified with the nick serv? is that mode +i?
[07:28] <auronandace> poent: join a channel that requires an identified nick (like #openbsd)
[07:29] <poent> huh. worked
[07:29] <poent> near
[07:29] <poent> neat*
[07:29] <fidel_> i somehow remember that whois should output that as well - but apart from that its a question for #help and not #ubuntu
[07:29] <chronofusion1980> ok got to step 5 in that " built the utility"   ( cabal configure) in terminal gave me " Please create a package description file <pkgname>.cabal
[07:29] <poent> anyone else on here using irssi?
[07:29] <chronofusion1980> I have no clue how to do that
[07:29] <iceroot> i want that every file creates in a directory belongs to a specific user (doesnt matter which user is creating that file) what is the way for it?
[07:29] <iceroot> poent: #irssi
[07:29] <poent> awesome
[07:31] <smellysally> is software for pdf annotations available on ubuntu? I tried evince and okular so far. evince only can do text annotations. okular has at least a highlight function and basic drawing tools, but it can't save to pdf. any alternatives?
[07:31] <Baralabite> I don't know much about it, but I think there is some kind of anotation thing in Compiz
[07:32] <chronofusion1980> somsip my gut feeling says you're on the right track.  Just hitting that one wall about creating that package
[07:32] <somsip> smellysally: you need a pdf editor, or just something that annotates?
[07:33] <somsip> chronofusion1980: I have no idea. I use a filco. I just found a link that look pretty informative for you
[07:33] <hateball> smellysally: it should be possible with okular 0.15+ which should be included in 12.10
[07:33] <hateball> smellysally: see http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdegraphics/okular/annotations.html
[07:33] <smellysally> somsip: annotations mostly, text marking. simple drawing would be nice.
[07:34] <somsip> smellysally: k - look like hateball know what he's talking about, so i'll sidle off...
[07:34] <chronofusion1980> thanks either way somsip.  does anyone know how I can create that package to continue with those steps
[07:35] <Baralabite> What's the command to completely remove an apt-get program?
[07:35] <smellysally> hateball: thanks, I didn't know that. still on 12.04, hough. :)   I'll try to build from source.
[07:35] <Baralabite> "autoremove", "purge"?
[07:35] <Baralabite> Neither of these are working
[07:36] <chronofusion1980> i think it's " sudo apt-get remove programname
[07:36] <hateball> smellysally: Good luck. I've no idea if it depends on newer kdelibs or so. 12.10 wont be long tho ;)
[07:36] <smellysally> hateball: well, I prefer to stick to LTS. building from source is worth a try, at least. :)
[07:37] <hateball> smellysally: Sure :)
[07:38] <chronofusion1980> man if it wasn't for handbrake-gtk being able to rip my movie collection faster with same quality settings and shrink the files much better than win 7 x64 handbrake x64, i'd go right back to windows
[07:39] <chronofusion1980> Anyone have an y idea how i can get the M keys on Razor blackwidow keyboard to finally function in xubuntu 12.04 x64?
[07:39] <hateball> !apt | Baralabite
[07:40] <poent> !apt | tmux
[07:40] <somsip> !notworking | Baralabite
[07:40] <poent> ha
[07:40] <somsip> Baralabite: explain what 'not working' means
[07:42] <Baralabite> somsip: I installed "Citadel", while it was installing, it asked me a few questions, like what mySQL and apache do, I filled them in, now I want to re-fill them in. To do this I figure I have to uninstall citadel, and re-install it. But when I re-isntall it, it doesn't fully remove it, because when I install citadel again, it doesn't ask me the questions.
[07:44] <llutz_> Baralabite: you need to "apt-get purge citadel"  to get it completly removed or use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure citadel"
[07:44] <somsip> Baralabite: try 'sudo apt-get purge {package}', but it might be worth checking /etc, /opt, ~/ for any orphaned config files if it is still not doing what you want. You may need to investigate the package more to find out where it stores files
[07:45] <Baralabite> Well, I've tried purge (as I said above), but I'll check /etc /opt and home
[07:46] <hateball> Baralabite: It's probably not purging the MySQL DB it created for you during install, and that's likely where it stores most of the things
[07:47] <Baralabite> Interesting suggestion hateball, will look into it :D
[07:47] <rocket_hamster> is there a way to donate to ubuntu without paypal?
[07:47] <Baralabite> It didn't create a mysql db :/
[07:48] <researcher123> I have created a root password using sudo passwd root. But I cant see that option for Login upon booting.Please HELP
[07:48] <Baralabite> BAM! I got it!
[07:48] <Baralabite> sudo dpkg-reconfigure citadel-webcit - a dependancty
[07:48] <somsip> !root | researcher123
[07:49] <gogo__> Hello, I have a strange problem. I am using radeon driver on Ubuntu with mesa 9. My card is rv730(hd4650) and it is compatible with opengl 3.3. But glxinfo shows supported opengl version is 2.1 only. I have seen others getting opengl version as 3.0 on same rv730 card. I am a bit confused about this.
[07:49] <researcher123> I have created a root password using sudo passwd root. But I cant see that option for Login upon booting.I know the password very well but from where to enter username root and its password?
[07:50] <researcher123> !root
[07:50] <llutz_> researcher123: having root-account enabled is not supported here. if you think you need it, youll know how to use it.
[07:50] <blackshirt> usually, root login was not permitted under gui login
[07:51] <chronofusion1980> Ok am i in the wrong place to ask for help?
[07:52] <mcmlxxi> I get error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?). even though I have /dev mounted. any ideas?
[07:52] <mcmlxxi> I'm in chroot
[07:53] <mcmlxxi> should I have mounted it outside of chroot?
[07:53] <err-or> mcmlxxi: how did you mount /dev?
[07:54] <llutz_> mcmlxxi: beofre chrooting: mount -o bind /dev /path/chroot/dev
[07:54] <mcmlxxi> err-or: mount -o bind /dev /mnt/ubuntu/point/dev/
[07:54] <mcmlxxi> llutz_: thanks
[07:55] <mcmlxxi> brb
[07:57] <n1> hi. anyone using vodafone mobile connect dongle?
[07:59] <researcher123> how to make available username root on the login screen?
[08:00] <Baralabite> You cannot log in as root.
[08:00] <Baralabite> If you are really desperate, open terminal and type in: "sudo su"
[08:00] <Baralabite> That current terminal session will be as root then
[08:00] <llutz_> cleaner to use "sudo -i"
[08:01] <akis> i want to place 'orage' to my systray on my Ubuntu 12.04. Giving 'systray' in orage's preferences nothing happens. Is it possible to run in systray or ti isnt because systray on Ubuntu 12.04 is locked. Any other oprion, suggection or idea?
[08:07] <bigpotato> anybody?
[08:08] <bigpotato> I have a question about vim plugin ProtoDef
[08:08] <suigeneris> hi
[08:09] <suigeneris> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1156240.html <--- I'm trying to work through this
[08:10] <suigeneris> cp /etc/resolv.conf /mount/point/etc/resolv.conf <--- there's no /etc/ under mount point
[08:11] <suigeneris> it's like / hasn't been mounted
[08:13] <FRA998> ciao
[08:13] <somsip> !list | FRA998
[08:13] <FRA998> !list
[08:14] <somsip> hah
[08:15] <llutz_> somsip: :D
[08:15] <somsip> llutz_: been waiting days to catch one :-)
[08:17] <dimmy> ?
[08:17] <dimmy> help
[08:17] <gartral> !help | dimmy
[08:18] <llutz_> somsip: they should make ubottu to autorespond "list" whenever one comes in saying "ciao"
[08:18] <somsip> llutz_: zactly :)
[08:18] <gartral> how does one do a FULL networked x session?
[08:21] <randomDude> gartral: by using xdmcp remote login
[08:22] <randomDude> gartral: http://ubuntuguide.net/enable-xdmcp-remote-login-in-ubuntu-12-04-lts-lightdm
[08:23] <chronofusion1980> ....this is the reason why windows " just works" and linux.." is just a headache and sucks"   no help.  no way..just barebones crap
[08:23] <MonkeyDust> chronofusion1980  no rants here please
[08:24] <gordonjcp> !ask | chronofusion1980
[08:24] <leotr> can i convert my /usr partition to squashfs?
[08:25] <chronofusion1980> well?  I've come on this channel and this server in Xchat numerous times asking for help...I never get it...yet I always try or successfully help someone else. and save the bs auto bot reply ok...see also..." I ask a question and i'm ignored
[08:25] <ikonia> leotr: why would you do that
[08:25] <gordonjcp> leotr: kind of
[08:25] <chronofusion1980> I have asked...tons of times
[08:25] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: asked what?
[08:25] <gordonjcp> leotr: makes no sense unless you're running from something like flash memory
[08:25] <MonkeyDust> chronofusion1980  maybe it's bacause nobody has the answer to your question, that happens
[08:25] <somsip> chronofusion1980: you are asking (about the razer) a specialised question that you couldn't find distinct help on anywhere else. You may need to eb a bit more patient, or try when more users are on
[08:25] <leotr> ikonia: i'm not going to modify it, make partition size minimal to faster deply
[08:25] <chronofusion1980> how to get M keys on Razor blackwidow Ultimate keyboard to work in xubuntu 12.04 64 bit
[08:26] <somsip> chronofusion1980: have you trued Razor support forums?
[08:26] <gartral> randomDude: it mentions Xmanager, what is that, specifically?
[08:26] <chronofusion1980> tried steps on http://superuser.com/questions/342107/getting-macro-keys-from-a-razer-blackwidow-to-work-on-linux when try " cabal configure"  i get " package not found...create the package"
[08:26] <leotr> it will be kiosk app
[08:27] <ikonia> leotr: but it will basically be running from ram
[08:27] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: yeah, it doesn't look like there's an easy way
[08:27] <chronofusion1980> and yes I have..no one  knows any ppa, installer package, cabal, python package work arounds to get it working
[08:27] <ikonia> and you'll have to unsquash it on demand
[08:27] <ikonia> or store the whole file system in ram unsquashed
[08:27] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: I'm reading that just now
[08:27] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: http://finch.am/projects/blackwidow/
[08:27] <somsip> chronofusion1980: are you in the EnableRazer dir when you run that?
[08:27] <gordonjcp> ^ that guy seems to be a bit further along
[08:27] <leotr> ikonia: will i have to unsquash it in read-only mode?
[08:27] <chronofusion1980> I just typed in those steps in terminal..hell i dont know..  But gordonjcp has provided a link which might be an easier solution for you
[08:28] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: noobishness is no excuse for rudeness though; I'm a total Windows noob but I manage to ask in a reasonably civil manner in ##windows ;-)
[08:29] <ikonia> leotr: you can do it read/write
[08:29] <ikonia> leotr: but I don't see what you hope to get by doing this ?
[08:29] <chronofusion1980> here's the difference..windows just works  LInux requires severe manual tweaking.  and I wasn't being rude.  I didn't realize that here when you ask a quesiton that no one knows the answer to..you get ignored  instead of " sorry not sure" by anyone
[08:29] <defswork> why cant the fucking clowns that release new versions of thunderbird wait until lightning is also available for that version
[08:30] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: I don't find it requires manual tweaking, but then I don't use weirdass hardware that only has Windows support
[08:30] <chronofusion1980> anyways..I tried that url gordon  already have the python-usb packages via synaptic package manager install, but not sure what to do next
[08:30] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: I find windows baffling and impenetrable
[08:30] <llutz_> chronofusion1980: you seriously  don't  want >1500 users in the channel say "sorry wwe don't know"
[08:30] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: download that blackwidow_enable.py and run it
[08:31] <Calinou_> chronofusion1980: windows locks you*
[08:31] <Calinou_> FTFY
[08:31] <chronofusion1980> ok did that..when i run it my text editor opens it up with a ton of info
[08:31] <gordonjcp> that's what you want
[08:31] <Calinou_> any linux distro (pretty much "but ubuntu") is not a product, it's a FOSS project
[08:31] <leotr> ikonia: i'm going to make a kiosk application (Xserver + PySide). So i install all required packages on prototype machine and when everything works - compress it so no modifications will be made to it
[08:31] <gordonjcp> just run it, with something like "python ./blackwidow_enable.py"
[08:32] <chronofusion1980> ?? so i type that in terminal?
[08:32] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: consider this though; you're probably one of a couple of thousand people who own this keyboard, and one of a handful of people who own this keyboard *and* use Linux
[08:32] <MonkeyDust> chronofusion1980  if you're a beginner with ubuntu, it means you're learning something new - that can be frustrating, sometimes
[08:32] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: so you're already doing something unusual
[08:33] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: I mean right now I'm working with some radio equipment that has no drivers at all for either Windows or Linux, which is taking quite a bit of heavy duty thinking
[08:33]  * MonkeyDust wonders: people don't mind learning windows, but they do mind learning linux
[08:34] <llutz_> people dont "learn" windows, they just use it, they grew up with it
[08:34] <chronofusion1980> because Monkeydust..windows is a hell of a lot easy to deal with.lol.  but I seriously want to replace windows with this distro...getting the m keys to work and gaming.will complete that..LOVE handbrake-gtk
[08:34] <gordonjcp> llutz_: not necessarily
[08:34] <gordonjcp> llutz_: I didn't
[08:34] <llutz_> gordonjcp: me too, but as you said: were a handfull of people
[08:34] <llutz_> we're
[08:34] <gordonjcp> llutz_: I've been using Windows XP for a bit more than six months now, and I still find it baffling and enraging
[08:34] <chronofusion1980> yes.they do..just like learning how to ride a bike..then learning how to drive a motorcycle
[08:35] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: I didn't
[08:35] <gartral> chronofusion1980: obscure gaming hardware can be a PiTA to get working, and usually there's less that 100 people who have a similar setup, maybe 10-15 of those have a god grasp on how to make it work, I myself am tackling getting a driver together for use with the Razer Lachesis mouse to set it's profiles without a windows installation
[08:35] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: I hadn't touched a Windows machine before the beginning of this year...
[08:35] <chronofusion1980> anyways...I typed that ./blackwidow_enable.py in terminal..yet i said " no such file or directory
[08:35] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: well, maybe that's not where the file is
[08:35] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: Firefox will probably want to save it in ~/Downloads
[08:36] <gartral> chronofusion1980: try this: python ./Downloads/blackwidow_enable.py
[08:36] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: on pretty much any Unix-y command line (Linux, BSD, OSX, whatever) ~ means your home directory
[08:36] <poent> qexi
[08:36] <poent> huuurrrr
[08:37] <chronofusion1980> i found the find i think " blackwidow_enable.py  " it is in downloads  " type" is Python script..when i double click it. it pulls up that file as a text file..so..how do i run it?
[08:38] <gartral> chronofusion1980: open a terminal and run python ~/Downloads/blackwidow_enable.py
[08:39] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: hope you're making notes
[08:39] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: you can stick this up online somewhere and it'll help the next person who takes a crazy notion to use a weird proprietary keyboard with Linux ;-)
[08:39] <chronofusion1980> yes...and received " blackwidow no found..yet i'm looking right at the file " blackwidow_enable.py
[08:39] <chronofusion1980> 2.9 kb size
[08:39] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: can you pastebin the contents of your terminal?
[08:40] <chronofusion1980> pastebin?
[08:40] <gordonjcp> !pastebin
[08:40] <gordonjcp> awfully handy for this sort of thing
[08:41] <chronofusion1980> ok i think i did that now
[08:41] <chronofusion1980> Paste from chronofusion1980 at Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:41:26 +0000
[08:42] <gordonjcp> got the URL to it?
[08:42] <chronofusion1980> sorry   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280739/
[08:42] <gordonjcp> okay
[08:42] <gordonjcp> so you're running the script, that's working correctly
[08:42] <gordonjcp> it's not detecting the keyboard, for some reason
[08:43] <gordonjcp> give me a sec so I can get the Magic Macbook
[08:43] <chronofusion1980> it allows me to set " f1 " and every other button for hotkeys EXCEPT the M keys
[08:43] <chronofusion1980> hehe..okedoky
[08:43] <gartral> gordonjcp: I believe the Black Widow is a mousse
[08:43] <chronofusion1980> no.it's a keyboard...the mouse I'm using is the Razor Naga
[08:44] <gartral> oh ok
[08:44] <gartral> that's right, Razer names their Keyboard after spiders, and mice after Snames
[08:44] <gartral> Snake*
[08:44] <gartral> s
[08:44] <gartral> >.<
[08:45] <somsip> chronofusion1980: best check - what version of ubuntu are you running?
[08:45] <chronofusion1980> Xubuntu 12.04 64 bit
[08:45] <somsip> chronofusion1980: k - should be up to date then
[08:46] <chronofusion1980> I thought about could i run the windows synapse 2.0 software for it via Wine, but native is always better i think
[08:46] <gartral> chronofusion1980: to make this a little easier, open up your terminal and run sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[08:46] <gordonjcp> I'm going to have to leave my macbook to warm up for ten minutes
[08:46] <gogeta> rawr
[08:47] <gordonjcp> it's been sitting in the laptop bag in the back of the van
[08:47] <chronofusion1980> done
[08:47] <gordonjcp> it's working just fine, it's just too cold to type on comfortably ;-)
[08:47] <chronofusion1980> said " pastebinit is already the newest version
[08:47] <gogeta> gordonjcp: heh
[08:47] <somsip> chronofusion1980: and pastebin the output from 'sudo lshw'.
[08:47] <gartral> chronofusion1980: you're wrong about Wine. As the Synapse application is actually a driver wrapper it won't detect the keyboard and will report "No Device"
[08:48] <gogeta> gordonjcp: freeze your macbook
[08:48] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: pastebin the output of "lsusb"
[08:48] <gartral> chronofusion1980: make that sudo lshw | pastebinit
[08:49] <gordonjcp> gartral: no, lshw isn't what I'm looking for
[08:49] <chronofusion1980> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280744/ for the  "sudo lshw"
[08:49] <Niarf> hi
[08:49] <gogeta> gordonjcp: ?
[08:49] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: incidentally do you understand what "sudo lshw | pastebinit" does?
[08:49] <gordonjcp> gogeta: I just want the USB IDs
[08:50] <gordonjcp> gogeta: lshw isn't useful for that
[08:50] <chronofusion1980> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280746/ for " sudo lsusb
[08:50] <Niarf> anyone knowns pam_krb5 parameters ?
[08:50] <Niarf> -n
[08:50] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: stop a minute
[08:50] <Niarf> when I set a ream, auth.log say "unknown option" :((
[08:50] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: do you know what sudo means?
[08:50] <Niarf> realm*
[08:50] <gogeta> gordonjcp: don't you just do lshw | grep usb
[08:50] <somsip> chronofusion1980: and you say you have a mouse and a keybd, both razer?
[08:51] <chronofusion1980> yes.sudo means to run or do a command with elevated permissions or something coherent to that...not sure if it's equal to root.
[08:51] <gordonjcp> yup
[08:51] <gordonjcp> it is, it lets you run stuff as root
[08:51] <chronofusion1980> yes somsip.  keyboard=Blackwidow Ultimate 2013 edition,  mouse=Naga
[08:51] <gordonjcp> be *very careful* what you're doing when people tell you to run commands with sudo
[08:52] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: so "sudo lshw | pastebinit" means "run lshw as root, and then pipe the output to pastebinit"
[08:52] <somsip> gordonjcp: so his keybd product_id doesn't match that in the script. Do we recommend he edits the script with his product_id and see what it does <dodgy>
[08:52] <chronofusion1980> indeed so i have heard...  :D
[08:52] <gordonjcp> somsip: that's where I'm going with this
[08:52] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: right, time for some hacking
[08:52] <somsip> gordonjcp: I'll back off - you have more experience from here
[08:52] <gordonjcp> your keyboard doesn't match the one in the script
[08:52] <chronofusion1980> ok.so giving the lsusb info i pasted in pastebin at the url i gave..what do ya think?
[08:52] <chronofusion1980> i'm all eyes gordon..shoot
[08:53] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: quick primer on USB - each device has a unique Vendor ID and Product ID
[08:53] <gartral> gordonjcp: incidentally, as I also run both a Razer Mouse (The Lachesis) and a Razer Keyboard (The Lycosa) my lsusb may prove useful!
[08:53] <gordonjcp> gartral: good point
[08:53] <chronofusion1980> that may be true gartral
[08:53] <gartral> gordonjcp: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280748/
[08:54] <gordonjcp> so, Razer has VID 0x1532 and you've got two PIDs 0x002e and 0x011a
[08:54] <crizis> gartral, i have arctosa myself and multimedia keys on it work out of box without any tuning btw
[08:54] <chronofusion1980> logitech keyboards use damn near all the same setpoint softwares or drivers or both
[08:54] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: the script is looking for 1532:010d
[08:54] <eigar> How can I launch "open with" from command line?
[08:54] <gogeta> gordonjcp: lsusb that's handy to
[08:54] <gordonjcp> I'm going to guess that the keyboard is 0x011a
[08:54] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: type in "gedit ~/Downloads/blackwidow_enable.py"
[08:54] <chronofusion1980> k one sec please
[08:55] <gordonjcp> and where you see 0x010d on line 17, change that to 0x011a
[08:55] <chronofusion1980> done
[08:55] <tommaso> 2012 ita
[08:55] <gogeta> must be a slow night
[08:56] <chronofusion1980> opened up the same text file..only in the gedit way
[08:56] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: save it, quit out of gedit, and try running blackwidow_enable now
[08:57] <chronofusion1980> still keeps opening the text file
[08:58] <gordonjcp> gartral: interesting
[08:58] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: what does?
[08:58] <chronofusion1980> leafpad
[08:58] <gordonjcp> well leafpad will work too
[08:58] <chronofusion1980> is python a program that i can select to run a script with?  that's the misunderstanding im having righ tnow
[08:58] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: not really, no
[08:59] <MonkeyDust> chronofusion1980  python is a scripting code
[08:59] <gartral> chronofusion1980: try python ~/Downloads/blackwidow_enable.py
[08:59] <chronofusion1980> shall i pastebin all the info in this text file?  perhaps that will shed some more light on it?
[08:59] <chronofusion1980> ok one sec
[09:00] <chronofusion1980> "blackwidow not found
[09:01] <chronofusion1980> ys.stderr.write("Could not write the magic bytes to the BlackWidow.\n")  is just one part that is in the text file of blackwidow_enable.py
[09:02] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: no, I've got it open here in an editor
[09:02] <gordonjcp> have you got it open in leafpad or gedit or something?
[09:02] <chronofusion1980> leafpad opens it by default
[09:02] <chronofusion1980> i saved it like you said when it was open in gedit
[09:02] <Ari_G> hello! i'm on natty narwahl and i'd like to know which day the support ends. October 31rst?
[09:03] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: ah okay, stop double-clicking it
[09:03] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: so you edited with gedit, changed that value, and saved?
[09:03] <chronofusion1980> changed that value?   ??
[09:03] <gordonjcp> yeah
[09:03] <chronofusion1980> you never said anything about changing any value
[09:03] <gordonjcp> right okay, let's go again ;-)
[09:03] <chronofusion1980> i got it open in gedit
[09:04] <gordonjcp> cool
[09:04] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: look for a line that says "USB_PRODUCT = 0x010d"
[09:04] <gordonjcp> that's the product ID for that guy's keyboard
[09:04] <chronofusion1980> found it
[09:05] <gordonjcp> change that to say "0x011a" which is the product ID from your keyboard
[09:05] <chronofusion1980> USB_PRODUCT = 0x010d  # BlackWidow / BlackWidow Ultimate
[09:05] <chronofusion1980> k one sec pleae
[09:05] <gordonjcp> (probably)
[09:05] <chronofusion1980> done.  now save it ..or save it to a particular location?
[09:06] <gordonjcp> no, just save it and exit gedit
[09:06] <chronofusion1980> done
[09:06] <Beastie> The ubuntu kernel is the only kernel that I have been able to get to boot so far using powerpc
[09:06] <gordonjcp> Beastie: at least it boots
[09:07] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: try running it now with python ~/Downloads/blackwidow_enable.py
[09:07] <chronofusion1980> "unable to claim the configuration interface. Do you have the appropriate privileges? "
[09:07] <chronofusion1980> perhaps sudo first then that command ?
[09:07] <gordonjcp> we're getting somewhere
[09:07] <gordonjcp> yup, give that a shot
[09:08] <Beastie> Well looks like ubuntu is loading right now.
[09:08] <chronofusion1980> CONFIGURED BLACKWIDOW!!!!   :D   GIGGIDEE!!
[09:08] <chronofusion1980> i hope :D
[09:08] <MonkeyDust> Ari_G  11.04Natty Narwhal28 April 2011     28 October 2012
[09:08] <toc> I'd like to set up and use squid...is there anyone familiar with it that could help? :)
[09:09] <chronofusion1980> so now what may i ask?
[09:09] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: good question
[09:09] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: incidentally, drop the guy that wrote blackwidow_enable.py an email explaining that it seems to work with your keyboard using that PID
[09:10] <gordonjcp> maybe he'll be able to expand his program so it'll detect automatically your version of the keyboard
[09:10] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: and when you do that, congratulations, you're an open-source contributor
[09:10] <Ari_G> MonkeyDust: Thanks a lot!
[09:10] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: you've helped make Linux a little bit better for others
[09:10] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: feels good, right?
[09:10] <MonkeyDust> chronofusion1980  then you are the blackwidow-linux expert, how's that!
[09:11] <chronofusion1980> sounds good to me.  I'll definitely do that.  I know at least 20 other friends of mine on my email lists that use razor gaming k eyboards..and many of them gave up on linux beause of this...
[09:11] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: okay, fire up the Settings->Hardware->Keyboard control panel
[09:11] <chronofusion1980> hehe..
[09:11] <chronofusion1980> well for me i think it's Settings manager...then keyboard
[09:11] <gordonjcp> yup
[09:12] <gordonjcp> and look for "Shortcuts"
[09:12] <chronofusion1980> Behavior, application shortcuts, and Layout" tabs
[09:12] <gordonjcp> application shortcuts
[09:12] <gordonjcp> sorry, I'm on 12.10 here so you may need to guess a bit
[09:12] <chronofusion1980> yeah..application shortcuts..just tried to set chromium to launch with M1 but nothing happened..
[09:12] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: hmm
[09:13] <chronofusion1980> now the odd thing is this
[09:13] <chronofusion1980> when i press Control AND m1..it shows up as " Super_L"
[09:13] <chronofusion1980> and works....
[09:13] <chronofusion1980> i'm trying to make it to where it's only requiring one button press to launch it
[09:13] <chronofusion1980> and it doesn't matter WHICH of the 5 M keys..it always shows up as " Super_L"
[09:14] <devjustforfun> people how to know why all my memory is used?
[09:14] <chronofusion1980> sorry. " control_L"  i meant
[09:14] <Beastie> can install ubuntu without running the live cd???
[09:14] <Beastie> powerpc I mean
[09:14] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: there must be more to it then
[09:14] <Beastie> nm duhh I have the docs right here
[09:14] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: what does "sudo showkey" in a terminal do when you press the buttons?
[09:14] <chronofusion1980> (shruggs)...either way..i learned alot from you gordon..seriously...thank you much
[09:14] <chronofusion1980> never tried..one sec please
[09:15] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: well I hope you learned the most important thing
[09:15] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: with Linux (and open-source in general) sometimes you find stuff doesn't work or doesn't quite fit
[09:15] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: but you're allowed to pound seven shades of snot out of it with a big hammer until it *does* fit
[09:16] <chronofusion1980> kb mode was RAW
[09:16] <chronofusion1980> [ if you are trying this under X, it might not work
[09:16] <chronofusion1980> since the X server is also reading /dev/console ]
[09:16] <chronofusion1980> press any key (program terminates 10s after last keypress)...
[09:16] <chronofusion1980> keycode  28 release
[09:16] <FloodBot1> chronofusion1980: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:16] <devjustforfun> but if i use top command i see Mem: Mem:   1834868k total,  1710776k used,   124092k free,
[09:16] <chronofusion1980> ah sorry
[09:16] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: don't worry, it happens ;-)
[09:16] <MonkeyDust> chronofusion1980  remember: swearing and cursing is the only language that *every* system understands
[09:16] <chronofusion1980> lol.  interest explanation
[09:16] <devjustforfun> how to know which programs used all my memoty
[09:16] <devjustforfun> memory*
[09:16] <gordonjcp> devjustforfun: top
[09:17] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: so basically, fire up showkey and mash buttons, see what scan codes they return
[09:17] <chronofusion1980> ah..I thought i was supposed to wait for it to auto show something.sorry
[09:17] <gordonjcp> these scan codes are mapped into a form that other things understand, but it's a fairly involved process
[09:17] <devjustforfun> gordonjcp top command give me that output: Mem:   1834868k total,  1710776k used,   124092k free,
[09:17] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: at this point you really want to be emailing the guy that wrote the script, since presumably he got further with it
[09:18] <chronofusion1980> the m keys still do nothing..but all other regular keys i have set..do what i set them to do
[09:18] <gordonjcp> devjustforfun: if you press M (shift-M) it'll show you a breakdown by memory
[09:18] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: and the M keys don't show scancodes in showkey?
[09:18] <chronofusion1980> gotcha..well time to crash..i'll email him tomorrow..please forgive my cerbral flagulence and d$ckheadness
[09:18] <chronofusion1980> correct..they dont
[09:19] <chronofusion1980> f1 is keycode 59
[09:19] <chronofusion1980> which is what i have chomium set to launch with for now
[09:19] <chronofusion1980> it's also my mute key when combined with FN key
[09:19] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: yeah, talk to the guy that wrote the script
[09:19] <gordonjcp> since he's presumably got the keys doing stuff
[09:20] <gartral> gordonjcp: do you have any experince with razertool?
[09:20] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: and I'm not about to drop nearly 200 quid on a keyboard just to help some random on the internet out
[09:20] <gordonjcp> gartral: no
[09:20] <devjustforfun> gordonjcp thanks
[09:20] <chronofusion1980> well i i think install razertool but can't find it or get it to actually run
[09:20] <chronofusion1980> when i try razertool in terming I get " unable to find copperhead laser mouse
[09:20] <gartral> chronofusion1980: it's specifically for the Copperhead mouse
[09:21] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: good luck with it
[09:21] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: let me know how you get on
[09:21] <chronofusion1980> ah..so no chance for it to work with my gear ?  oh well..had to try
[09:22] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: it probably *will* work but you'll need to ask someone who has actually got one of these keyboards
[09:22] <gartral> chronofusion1980: well.. it hasn't been updated since '07.. but I'm looking at patching it for use with the Lachesis, and possibly other mice if I can collect the magic strings for all the function
[09:22] <chronofusion1980> i will gordon  today gotta sleep..then get the wife a new laptop and take her on a good date..it's been too long and she basically helped payf or this gear..plus 3 tb 7200 rpm hdd to work with my ripping from
[09:22] <gartral> s
[09:22] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: drop the guy who wrote the script an email
[09:22] <pelismo> is it possible that i see 91% used disk space, but really I can't find any large file or files that take up all that space?
[09:23] <chronofusion1980> yeap yeaaaap.  either way..I'll check back with you all on here when i can..( normally work late evening shift..so used to pretty much night shift central time)
[09:23] <pelismo> perhaps kernel is measuring wrong? or something taking some virtual space?
[09:23] <chronofusion1980> cheers everyone..time to crash...latas
[09:23] <gordonjcp> pelismo: possibly hidden files?
[09:24] <gordonjcp> pelismo: try "du -h --max-depth=1 /path/to/filesystem
[09:24] <pelismo> gordonjcp: i run du -ah | sort -n -r | head -n 20, all i get is very few 1M files
[09:24] <pelismo> i do have some long-running processes on that server (ubuntu 12.04 server)
[09:25] <rdz> hi all. is there a generic way to remember the window position for any application in 12.04?
[09:25] <gartral> pelismo: try du -ah /tmp
[09:25] <geirha> pelismo: use -m instead of -h
[09:25] <pelismo> gartral: i did that on root
[09:26] <geirha> pelismo: because sort -n will consider 1G smaller than 20M
[09:26] <llutz_>  du -x --max-depth=1 /|sort -n  pelismo dont use -h and sort
[09:27] <pelismo> what does -x do?
[09:27] <geirha> sticks to one filesystem
[09:27] <pelismo> numbers i output in KB?
[09:27] <llutz_> byte
[09:28] <llutz_> err kbyte
[09:28] <pelismo> ah ok that makes sense
[09:28] <geirha> pelismo: -m will show Mebibytes
[09:28] <pelismo> yea i get better results now i think it makes sense
[09:28] <gordonjcp> right folks, first patient arrived
[09:28] <gordonjcp> better go and pretend to do some work
[09:29] <amazingrando> hi everyone.  i have a question about a bash script to run something as sudo on a remote machine
[09:31] <Martin_> amazingrando: just ask
[09:31] <pelismo> ok so i think Ubuntu lies to me
[09:31] <pelismo> i have 1.9GB used. but it reports 91% is used, total root disk is 8GB
[09:32] <amazingrando> here's my script
[09:32] <amazingrando> http://pastebin.com/0Z5HTUQC
[09:32] <pelismo> is there a way to see how much each process reserves on disk?
[09:32] <somsip> pelismo: reserves of what?
[09:33] <pelismo> somsip: no idea.. maybe the kernel thinks there's a ghost file but i can't see it on disk?
[09:33] <gordonjcp> amazingrando: ah you want to control a whole bunch of machines remotely?
[09:33] <fidel_> pelismo: how in detail do you check for used/free space right now?
[09:33] <pelismo> fidel_: usually df -h
[09:33] <pelismo> and memory i do with: free -m
[09:33] <amazingrando> gordonjcp: yeah, i want to ssh into each and trigger a restart
[09:33] <fidel_> "it reports" is kinda vague ...thats why i am asking ;)
[09:33] <llutz_> !info cssh | amazingrando:
[09:33] <pelismo> fidel_: is  there a more accurate way to measure free disk?
[09:33] <llutz_> !info clusterssh | amazingrando:
[09:34] <amazingrando> cool.  did not know that existed
[09:34] <fidel_> pelismo: well i do use the same commands - and i expect them to be corrent
[09:34] <amazingrando> i'll look into clusterssh
[09:34] <gordonjcp> amazingrando: have you looked at puppet, or clusterssh?
[09:34] <gordonjcp> ah
[09:34] <Martin_> amazingrando: it's a good tool you'll see ;)
[09:35] <rigid> ahoy
[09:35] <Martin_> but your question remains  if you'd like to do that without human interaction :/
[09:35] <Martin_> amazingrando:
[09:36] <rigid> does anybody know why there's no recent version of libbabl for ubuntu?
[09:36] <pelismo> so what can be the case where df reports a disk usage that the whole sum of files don't accumulate to?
[09:36] <llutz_> Martin_: cssh -a <action>
[09:36] <gordonjcp> rigid: maybe it's not used for anything
[09:37] <sachael> can anyone explain why people use the silly animal names? I wanted to download a package, but had to got wikipedia to check what's the silly name of the 12.04 I running...
[09:37] <sachael> please ignore spelling mistakes D:
[09:38] <rigid> gordonjcp: i guess asking the maintainer of the package is the right way to get an answer, right?
[09:38] <crizis> those are just code names for the release. official branding is 12.04, like you noticed. you had to look it up - otherwise you won't hit the names
[09:38] <AndChat|251264> Hello!!
[09:38] <Hoj0> the developers just assign code-names using animal names
[09:38] <gordonjcp> rigid: yes, most likely
[09:38] <jrib> sachael: it was a joke that caught on basically
[09:39] <gordonjcp> rigid: wow, yeah, that's what three years old?
[09:39] <amazingrando> can i setup/run clusterssh without x windows?
[09:39] <nwillems> sachael: Regarding spelling mistakes, usually i sign my mails with the following: "Spellcorrection left as an excercise for the reader"
[09:39] <rigid> gordonjcp: thanks
[09:39] <geirha> pelismo: A large file's been unlinked, but a process still has it open, probably. The file will exist until that process closes it.
[09:39] <akis> hi all. i am trying to make 'orage' gives me system notifications in pop-ups (instead of its notifications) and i installed already 'libnotify-dev' under which 'orage' is working but still my ubuntu 12.04 refuses to give me system notifications and gives me orage notificatios althoug i have already choose in alarmas 'system notifications'. Under Xubuntu 12.04 i made it work. But under Ubuntu i failed. Any idea?
[09:39] <rigid> gordonjcp: yes, and there is a _much_ more recent version for gentoo and even more recent git version. The changes are quite heavily
[09:40] <dwakar> I'm looking for a tiniest linux distro ever, to make a rescuedisk, until now puppy linux is on top of my list. do you guys have any suggestions?
[09:41] <MonkeyDust> dwakar  there's tinycore
[09:41] <llutz_> !ot | dwakar
[09:41] <pelismo> geirha: aha! that may be the case. can I detect such a file already open by the process? perhaps list open files? can I also find out its size?
[09:41] <sachael> jrib: where is the joke? I have to go look up silly names, which are not always in my foreigner volabulary, just so I can know what to download for my OS. "Ubuntu HerptyDerpty" tells me nothing about which ubuntu that is, unless I know all the "funny" name combinations
[09:41] <jrib> sachael: you can always use the numbers instead of the names
[09:41] <err-or> dwakar: dsl
[09:41] <sachael> jrib: I can and I do, but people don't! :(
[09:41] <dwakar> oh sorry wrong channel. thanks MonkeyDust and err-or
[09:42] <sachael> hm, there is an opportunity for some "huh you maen ubuntu is not linux?" trolling, but I dunno how well this is take here.
[09:43] <jrib> sachael: you can also just learn the adjective (the first word) in the name.  And I believe policy on the wiki is to refer to versions by name and version
[09:43] <sachael> dang, I can't type today.
[09:44] <g105b> Just ordered my 12.10 merch :)
[09:44] <jrib> sachael: even better, after dapper the releases are in alphabetical order, so you can just learn the LETTER for each release :)
[09:44] <Fudge> hi, anyone using broadcomm drivers successfully with precise
[09:44] <VictorCL> hi, I installed subversion with apt-get install subversion
[09:44] <jrib> Fudge: yes; ask your actual question (to the channel)
[09:44] <VictorCL> and it installed version 1.6 , when the latests one is  1.7, how can I install 1.7 ?
[09:45] <jrib> VictorCL: 1.6 is the latest in the repositories
[09:45] <Fudge> jrib  have two machines that I can not get to connect to my network, another wireless machine not using broadcom drivers conects to my network as does my phone
[09:46] <Fudge> therefore I am looking for possible ideas to why I am prompted for password but it does not connect and then a few minutes later asks me for the password again.
[09:46] <jrib> Fudge: I just run jockey-gtk and install the driver there.  If you need more help, /msg ubottu wireles
[09:46] <jrib> Fudge: I just run jockey-gtk and install the driver there.  If you need more help, /msg ubottu wireless
[09:47] <Fudge> jrib  that is active there and the eth1 shows as up and I can see my network and others but not connect.
[09:47] <DX099> hello, did someone test PulseAudio 2.x on Precise ?
[09:48] <rigid> http://packages.qa.debian.org/b/babl.html suggests that there's a more recent version of babl available for debian. Does anyone know about the mechanisms to get a more recent version into ubuntu? (i'm new to ubuntu)
[09:48] <erealz_>
[09:48] <rigid> actually the version in ubuntu is the oldest available. It seems that maintainers have changed and the new maintainers only serve debian, not ubuntu
[09:49] <rigid> are debian packages 100% compatible to ubuntu?
[09:49] <crizis> no
[09:49] <jrib> rigid: every release, ubuntu re-syncs with debian.  So that package in debian will eventually hit ubuntu
[09:50] <rigid> jrib: ah, good to know. But it doesn't seem to be the case for babl. I last checked ~1.5 years ago and no change still
[09:52] <tsimpson> rigid: 0.1.10 is in quantal now, so it is synced
[09:52] <jrib> rigid: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/b/babl/babl_0.1.10-1ubuntu1/changelog in 12.10 (released soon)
[09:52] <rigid> ahhh
[09:52] <rigid> tsimpson: jrib: thanks a lot...
[09:59] <metalball> 'lo everyone, got a question not exactly ubuntu-server related, more linux related, about automated backup with scp
[10:00] <metalball> I'm trying to automatically mysqldump database and scp it to remote server
[10:00] <hajime_> metalball: i think you can place it on cron job
[10:00] <DX099> hello, did someone test PulseAudio 2.x on Precise ?
[10:01] <metalball> hajime_: thanx, thats not quite the question
[10:01] <metalball> the question is about passwords / passphrase skipping
[10:01] <metalball> I've generated RSA keys, and copied from SOURCE to DESTINATION server
[10:02] <ryanakca> What flags will force patch to apply a patch, i.e. given the line numbers in the diff, remove all of the lines numbers corresponding to the ones in a diff prefixed by a '-', and insert the '+' lines? (The patch doesn't match up exactly / apply perfectly, but replacing the lines will suffice.
[10:02] <metalball> and applied with cat id_rsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[10:02] <uBUXUBu> hi can someone tell me how to make my 64 bit ubuntu 12.04 ....32 bit compatible?
[10:02] <metalball> I even did service ssh restart
[10:03] <metalball> so from "Enter password for user@destination" I've went to "Enter passphrase for key /user/.ssh/id_rsa"
[10:03] <uBUXUBu> i was hoping there would be a 32bit compatibilty pack in my software center,,,,but there is not
[10:03] <metalball> so how can I make scp work automated?
[10:04] <metalball> without prompting any credentials?
[10:04] <DX099> !32bits
[10:05] <Pumpkin-> without EVER prompting for credentials, you will need a passphraseless SSH key. With prompting once (at least once per system boot), you will need to investigate ssh-agent.
[10:06] <Pumpkin-> as with many things, you need to make a security vs usability/reliability tradeoff
[10:07] <DX099> uBUXUBu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit#How_to_Make_32-bit_Applications_Work_on_a_64-bit_Operating_System
[10:07] <metalball> Pumpkin-: so if I won't enter any pass during ssh-keygen - that would be a passphraseless key?
[10:07] <Pumpkin-> yup
[10:07] <uBUXUBu> ive read that it does nothing
[10:08] <uBUXUBu> im beginning ti think i have uninstall 64bit and install 32
[10:09] <uBUXUBu> why isnt there a 32 bit comp pack in software center
[10:09] <DX099> uBUXUBu, sorry, I have a FAQ but it's in french
[10:09] <metalball> Pumpkin-: ok, that's nice... I'm not so worried about security, as i've got iptables to deny ANY traffic except trusted ip range, and if I understand correctly, the authentication is not 2-way,
[10:09] <crizis> uBUXUBu, you can install 32bit packages with sudo apt-get install packagename:i386
[10:10] <Giirt> Guys, I have a problem. The only way for me to connect to the internet is through a Socks5 proxy at <IP_ADDRESS> . It works well to set firefox preferences to connect through it, can I set it system wide?
[10:10] <DX099> uBUXUBu, you could dig "linux32" command
[10:10] <Pumpkin-> yeah, the authentication is indeed only one way. The security concern is more a case that if someone machine A, they can access machine B without needing any additional credentials. Of course if they have totally owned A, it is likely only a matter of time before they will get to B anyway (keylog a password or whatever).
[10:11] <uBUXUBu> whats that
[10:11] <uBUXUBu> sudo linux32?
[10:11] <DX099> !linux32
[10:11] <uBUXUBu> is that what u mean
[10:12] <uBUXUBu> i got a funny feeling that even if i went to 32bit it wont run my game
[10:12] <dr_willis> 8bit then ;-)
[10:13] <uBUXUBu> ok criziz so that makes me 32 bit compatible?
[10:13] <uBUXUBu> just saw what u wrote
[10:13] <DX099> uBUXUBu, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man1/linux32.1.html
[10:14] <ThinkT510> DX099: dapper is long since dead
[10:14] <uBUXUBu> will that make a game run that wont run now?
[10:14] <DX099> oh didn't see taht
[10:14] <DX099> can't say until you try
[10:15] <DX099> it is said to be used like : "$ linux32 my_32bit_program"
[10:16] <crizis> uBUXUBu, depends what you wanna run, exactly? for what you need "32bit compability"
[10:16] <crizis> uBUXUBu, basically if you have some 32bit software, you can install all the :i386 packages it needs and it works
[10:16] <Giirt> Anyone have a clue about the proxy problem?
[10:17] <Giirt> Can I connect system-wide to a Socks v5 proxy
[10:17] <hateball> There's even a meta-package to pull in a bunch of i386 packages
[10:17] <ThinkT510> !info ia32-libs-multiarch | uBUXUBu
[10:17] <uBUXUBu> no idea what all that means
[10:18] <uBUXUBu> i just want to install and play second life on my 64 bit ubuntu
[10:18] <uBUXUBu> 12.04
[10:18] <metalball> Pumpkin-: I think that passwordless passphrase is a better solution for me, thank you very much
[10:19] <uBUXUBu> i did a lot of terminal command yesterday that as usual did jack squat
[10:19] <KM0201> uBUXUBu: doesn't second life have a linux package on their website
[10:19] <uBUXUBu> al the libs multiarch stuff
[10:19] <crizis> uBUXUBu, http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Second-Life-Viewer/Getting-Secondlife-to-run-on-Ubuntu-12-04-lts-64-bit/td-p/1513169/page/2
[10:19] <crizis> see first comment there
[10:19] <uBUXUBu> yes they do and it didnt do jack squat
[10:19] <uBUXUBu> i read all that
[10:20] <DX099> Giirt, if 12.04, in Unity : on top right menu, system settings >> Network >> scroll down in the left list, and you will spot a "proxy servers" option
[10:20] <KM0201> didnt do jack squat?
[10:21] <uBUXUBu> so action ( a guy here) had me intall a million things in terminal to make me have the 32 bit libraries and terminal ran on and on and on and then it all ended up being useless
[10:21] <ardianta> how to change mac address via CLI?
[10:21] <uBUXUBu> but a good try anyway i gotta admit
[10:21] <crizis> uBUXUBu, http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linux_Viewer#64-bit what about that one?
[10:21] <ThinkT510> ardianta: that is mac spoofing, we don't help with that here
[10:21] <DX099> ardianta, man ifconfig or much easier 'macchanger' packaqe
[10:22] <DX099> *package
[10:22] <ardianta> THanks.. i will try..
[10:22] <DX099> mac spoofing isn't necessarily used for law infringements
[10:23] <uBUXUBu> good idea but that thing has so many issues it a mess
[10:23] <varikonniemi> is there available some patches for ubuntu one that encrypts/decrypts the data before send/after receive
[10:23] <uBUXUBu> prolly easier to uninstall this wubi 64 and do wubi 32
[10:24] <uBUXUBu> but i like my 64 bit
[10:24] <uBUXUBu> runs good
[10:25] <uBUXUBu> oh well here goes out with 64 in wit h32 ty all forhelping aloha
[10:26] <varikonniemi> ?
[10:26] <varikonniemi> what are you doing
[10:27] <Richard_Cavell> Folks, I have a parallel port installed on my PC and when I type lspci, it comes up as "Communication controller".  How do I check whether lpt0 exists?
[10:27] <Richard_Cavell> I'm on 12.04
[10:35] <BlueEagle> Richard_Cavell: ls /dev/lpt0
[10:35] <Richard_Cavell> cannot access /dev/lpt0: No such file or directory
[10:36] <g0th> hi
[10:36] <BlueEagle> Richard_Cavell: You may have to load the required module if it is not loaded automatically.
[10:36] <Richard_Cavell> Okay... how do I do that?
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> Richard_Cavell  ls /dev/l*
[10:36] <g0th> whwen I move a window to another desktop it just vannishes and "goes back to the original position"
[10:36] <g0th> I use unity/compiz
[10:36] <Richard_Cavell> MonkeyDust: log, loop0 through loop7 and loop-control
[10:37] <mpathy> Hi there.. I am on the live cd ready to install.. But know I think about the encryption.. dmcrypt is much faster, and isnt it wrong to only encrypt /home.. what about /tmp and when applications write in there?
[10:37] <BlueEagle> Richard_Cavell: I would have started by googling: ubuntu module parallell port
[10:38] <mpathy> On the other hand ecryptfs is easy to use, and dmcyrpt seems to be not good to use without lvm.. which I do not want on a laptop with a small ssd
[10:38] <g0th> mpathy: encryption will slow down things considerably, so you shouldn't encrypt directories that are critical for performance
[10:39] <varikonniemi> mpathy, the home encryption is really basic
[10:39] <BlueEagle> mpathy: I would think that the swap space would be just as vunerable than any tmp directory.
[10:39] <g0th> all "personal" stuff/information/settings should be be in home anyway
[10:39] <varikonniemi> but sufficient for most
[10:39] <qwd> g0th: but that stuff won't stay there...
[10:40] <mpathy> g0th: Therefore I want to choose dmcrypt because my CPU supports AES_NI and it is rather fast in general
[10:40] <g0th> ah ok
[10:40] <varikonniemi> encryption/decryption speed is not an issue on modern cpu
[10:40] <mpathy> BlueEagle: Will not create swap. Have 16GB
[10:40] <g0th> then I suggest you use your own system to encrypt stuff, not the one that comes along with ubnutu standard installation
[10:40] <varikonniemi> even without sse/NI supporty
[10:41] <mpathy> But its really cumbersome to use without lvm
[10:41] <qwd> Ubuntu has full disk encryption, but I think you have to use the alternate disc for that. Correct me if I'm wrong.
[10:41] <varikonniemi> dmcrypt?
[10:41] <mpathy> But who wants lvm on a laptop? With a small ssd
[10:41] <Eagleman> When i use this script: http://pastebin.com/FuAHG3wa in rc.local it says:  /etc/rc.local: 15: /etc/rc.local: Syntax error: "fi" unexpected (expecting "then")   How do i correctly use it?
[10:41] <varikonniemi> who wants lvm? :D
[10:41] <varikonniemi> just one more piece to a puzzle that can break
[10:42] <mpathy> varikonniemi: Every description says use lvm with dmcrypt
[10:42] <varikonniemi> happened to me once on fedora when i installed with "automatic"
[10:42] <g0th> when I move a window to another virtual desktop it vannishes and reapears at the original place
[10:42] <g0th> how can I move a window to another desktop?
[10:42] <varikonniemi> i am not talking about dmcrypt/lvm
[10:42] <varikonniemi> just plain lvm
[10:42] <varikonniemi> i know nothing about dmcrypt
[10:42] <BlueEagle> !enter varikonniemi
[10:42] <ThinkT510> g0th: rightclick and move to
[10:43] <BlueEagle> !enter| varikonniemi
[10:43] <mpathy> varikonniemi: Okay I already thought about only having /boot and / - no extra swap no extra home
[10:43] <Eagleman> That was slow :O
[10:43] <g0th> ThinkT510: isn't it possible with a keybinding?
[10:43] <schnuffle> Eagleman: its if [expression]; then [your code] fi
[10:43] <varikonniemi> i only use encryption on usb sticks with ecryptfs
[10:43] <mpathy> varikonniemi: And on your normal system?
[10:43] <g0th> what about running a virtual system?
[10:44] <dr_willis> Eagleman: issue could be rc.local us using sh not bash. id put those 4 lines in their own properly made bash script
[10:44] <g0th> i.e. start a normal system and run everything on the virtual system
[10:44] <Bustacap> Is there a way to add MSL (mirc scripting language) to gedit's syntax highlighting?
[10:44] <jrib> Eagleman, dr_willis: you need a "then" to go with the "if"
[10:45] <varikonniemi> mpathy, have you checked truecrypt?
[10:45] <qwd> mpathy: just go with whatever the install disc gives you, don't make it more complicated than it has to be.
[10:45] <Eagleman> I just want it to work
[10:45]  * jrib sees schnuffle said it already :x
[10:45] <mpathy> varikonniemi: For a container or what?
[10:45] <varikonniemi> full disk encryption
[10:45] <varikonniemi> it installs itself in bootloader before grub
[10:45] <Eagleman> If /opt/ts3/ts3server.pid exists then rm it, then just start teamspeak normally with:  su teamspeak -c "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start"
[10:46] <g0th> ThinkT510: I would like to bind "move to Workspace right" to a key combination (e.g. alt + shift + right)
[10:46] <Eagleman> So how do i do that in rc.local?
[10:47] <ThinkT510> g0th: not sure sorry, i'm not a big compiz user
[10:47] <mpathy> varikonniemi: Hmm I thought also about because then perhaps I could use it also on Win.. But the critical stuff is on the linux parition but better would be all encyrpted
[10:48] <Eagleman> rm /opt/ts3/ts3server.pid
[10:48] <Eagleman> su teamspeak -c "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start"
[10:48] <Eagleman> Also works
[10:48] <Eagleman> rc.local is only used on startup so it will do the same