[18:10] <bekks> hfic: At least I never heard of someone recovering a lost bitlocker partition successfully.
[18:10] <TJ-> roy___: And, I think, you should try rebooting that PC now ... you might find it'll get you into the GUI. There might be residual issues to take care of. If at any time a file fails, discover which package provides it using "dpkg-query -S <filename>", and then reinstall the reported package with "sudo apt-get --reinstall install <package>"
[18:10] <Ihsan_> Thank you i will look at it now
[18:10] <tomreyn> alecb: then paste the internet address it returns to you here
[18:11] <roy___> TJ-: ok thanks a lot, i'll try and see what it does ...
[18:11] <tomreyn> alecb: 82579LM is ehternet, so wired internet. your issue is about wireless if i got you correctly
[18:11] <Sabari1> TJ: Got  a chance to look at the entire log
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrueCrypt
[18:11] <TJ-> Sabari1: Does it revela anything
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: again, why is there no cleardata backup?
[18:12] <Ihsan_> cleardata backup?
[18:12] <Ihsan_> What do you actually mean by that?
[18:12] <Sabari1> TJ:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191311/
[18:12] <Ihsan_> I tried encrypting it with Truecrypt, but it said that it was not made with truecrypt
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: a copy of the data without encyption on it
[18:12] <Sabari1> This says failed to read index block
[18:13] <TJ-> Sabari1: I saw one mention in that tread you provided, along with USB power, that echi was dropped in favour of ohci. However, that was back in 2008 when we did have conflicts between them. That's no longer the case and the drivers are builtin to the kernel image
[18:13] <Ihsan_> No, I don have it
[18:13] <Ihsan_> :(
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: but why not?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: what if the drive died..where is your data?
[18:14] <alecb> tomreyn: oh, whoops. the only other network device windows tells me about doesn't give a brand/model number. it's just "1x1 1b/g/n Wireless LAN PCI Express half mini card adapter", says the maunfacturer is lenovo. if I get a chance I'll switch back to ubuntu and see what lsusb tells me
[18:14] <Ihsan_> No where actually,
[18:14] <Ihsan_> I was planning on buying a extern hdd
[18:14] <roy__> TJ-: excellent its all fine now
[18:15] <tomreyn> alecb: sounds like a plan
[18:15] <Ihsan_> TrueCrypt says to me: Incorrent password or not a TrueCrypt volume.
[18:15] <TJ-> roy__: Fantastic. Remember/record what I said about how to reinstall any packages you discover problems with
[18:15] <roy__> TJ-: yeah
[18:17] <TJ-> roy__: And back-up your important data!
[18:17] <ranveer5289> alecb: Also tell us the output of lspci | grep Wireless.
[18:17] <alecb_> tomreyn: stole a nearby public desktop -- switching to ubuntu on my t430
[18:18] <Mike2012> hi anyone here... i have a question
[18:18] <jrib> !ask | Mike2012
[18:18] <roy__> TJ-: yes
[18:19] <Mike2012> sorry. I just installed ubuntu on my hp mini netbook yesterday, and the battery level meter is not working properly/the netbook seems to only last an hour on battery and im wondering what to do to troubleshoot it...
[18:20] <mathi> hello
[18:21] <mathi> I am quite new to Ubuntu, I don't understand how to have a list of my applications (the equivalent in Windows XP would be Start/All programs)
[18:23] <krababbel> mathi: that actually depends on the desktop you use, but there is a standard, using /usr/share/applications/ I think
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> mathi  in unity, it's called dash, up, left
[18:23] <alecb_> tomreyn: lsusb gives pastebin.com/STFmbR7B
[18:23] <mathi> dash? how does the icon look like? a white circle on black background ?
[18:24] <yshavit> I'm running Ubuntu 12 (w/ gnome-shell) in a VMWare session. The host machine is a Mac laptop, and the command key on the keyboard is (correctly) mapped to the Super key. However, I'm also using a wireless keyboard meant for Windows, and I'd like the Windows key to map to Super in Linux. Sometimes it does, but sometimes it doesn't -- I can't figure out the pattern. Any ideas how I can track this down?
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> mathi  click here and there and see what appears
[18:24] <Ihsan_> I did the command sudo make install with 'Dislocker', on the readme it says
[18:25] <Ihsan_> Once installed, see diclocker(1) for details on hwo to use
[18:25] <Ihsan_> but I dont know what to do now :(
[18:25] <zykotick9> Ihsan_: try "man dislocker"
[18:25] <einonm> Ihsan_: or "man 1 dislocker"
[18:25] <Bims> my ps/2 mouse does no longer work after upgrade. has ps/2 been disabled in ubuntu's current kernel?
[18:26] <zykotick9> einonm: using "man dislocker" is the same as "man 1 dislocker" (in the 1 case)
[18:26] <debbox> hello. does anybody use pmount? whenever i try to 'pmount -w /dev/sdb1' i get 'mount: warning: /media/sdb1 seems to be mounted read-only'
[18:27] <mathi> krababbel: in this folder I have a list of applications with .desktop extension, is this normal?
[18:28] <Bims> my ps/2 mouse doesnt even blink when i start x
[18:29] <FlowRiser> mathi: ".desktop" files are not applications they are shortcuts to bin files
[18:29] <makezan> hey guys i'm trying to setup x11vnc with ssl, but I seem to be having a little problem.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/185223/x11vnc-with-ssl-and-certification-problem-unable-to-get-local-issuer-cert
[18:29] <tomreyn> alecb_: ok, please do this next: lspci -knn | grep -iA3 Wireless | pastebinit
[18:30] <Ihsan_> Is it normal that it will take long after using this command: sudo dd if=/dev/sda1 of=encrypted.bitlocker
[18:31] <yshavit> My Super key issue seems to be somehow related to caps lock -- anyone seen that before?
[18:31] <alecb_> tomreyn: s/Wireless/Wifi? the former doesn't give me anything
[18:31] <pozop>  bit depth in audio. I imported 16 bit  audio into Audacity. My Audacity has 32 bit set as default. Now I have realised that. Can I just change the audacity settings down to 16 bit?
[18:31] <unless> How do I install Fortram compiler at Ubuntu?
[18:32] <dr_willis> Ihsan_:  totally depends on the size of sda1 and the speeds of the drives..
[18:32] <Ihsan_> Oh, so I just need to wait allright then :)
[18:33] <dr_willis> Ihsan_:  such a command could take several hours if its a very large hd.
[18:33] <tomreyn> alecb_: and Wifi would give results? then do that, please
[18:34] <tomreyn> alecb_ this should work, too: lspci -knnv | grep -iA7 network | pastebinit
[18:35] <alecb_> tomreyn: yeah I get an entry for Wifi: (internet died so copying manually): Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n Wifi Adapter [10ec:8176] (rev 01)   [cont'd...]
[18:35] <Ihsan_> 50GB
[18:35] <Ihsan_> Is that much?
[18:35] <alecb_> tomreyn: [..cont'd] Subsystem: Realtek Semidoncutor Co., Ltd. Device [10ec:8195] ...
[18:35] <alecb_> tomreyn: ... Kernel driver in use: rtl8192ce ...
[18:36] <alecb_> tomreyn: ... Kernel modules: rtl8192ce
[18:38] <tomreyn> alecb_: and you're using which ubuntu version?
[18:39] <alecb_> tomreyn: 12.04
[18:39] <klebezettel> hi
[18:39] <klebezettel> how come that I have a 60GB partition, then I create a fs like ext3 on it and df -h reports me 18GB for the mounted partition?!
[18:40] <mathi> I know I have "Vino", but it is not listed under /usr/share/applications, why ?
[18:41] <dr_willis> klebezettel:  check fdisk -l output. only like 5% is reserved for ext3
[18:42] <klebezettel> dr_willis: /dev/sda5       855461313   976773167    60655927+  83  Linux ...nothing wrong here?
[18:42] <dr_willis> just random #'s to me. :)
[18:42] <Bims> my ps/2 mouse does no longer work after upgrade. has ps/2 been disabled in ubuntu's current kernel?
[18:43] <dr_willis> klebezettel:  could be its built into gnome, i dont see a speciifc 'vino' command
[18:43] <klebezettel> mathi: ^^
[18:43] <dr_willis> locate vino
[18:43] <dr_willis> /etc/xdg/autostart/vino-server.desktop
[18:44] <dr_willis> Exec=/usr/lib/vino/vino-server --sm-disable
[18:44] <ranveer5389> mathi: You can also try "dpkg -S vino"
[18:44] <tomreyn> alecb_: does this give something? lsmod | grep rtl
[18:45] <dr_willis> i see no stand alone vino binary. you configure the vino server to run..
[18:45] <mathi> thank you, now something is freaking me out... I can connect to my linux machine where I installe Ubuntu without any password
[18:45] <alecb_> tomreyn: yup. what were you looking for in particular?
[18:46] <dr_willis> I did just realize im on my 12.10 box. so it may be differnt there.
[18:46] <alecb_> tomreyn: the left column hs rtl8..., rtl8..._common, rtlwifi, mac20122, cfg80211
[18:46] <alecb_> *mac80211
[18:46] <bwlang> what's the best way to add a non official repo from the command line?
[18:46] <bwlang> apt-add-repository does not seem to be universally available
[18:46] <tomreyn> alecb_: i'm trying to find out which driver is in use. the rtl8... ones are of interest
[18:46] <dr_willis> bwlang:  most ppa's are added with that ppa-add command.
[18:46] <dr_willis> !ppa
[18:47] <alecb_> tomreyn: rtl8192ce 84826 0
[18:47] <trism> bwlang: add-apt-repository is in python-software-properties in 12.04-
[18:47] <alecb_> tomreyn: rtl8192c_common 75767 1 rtl8192ce
[18:48] <tomreyn> alecb_: that's enough, thanks. give me a minute.
[18:49] <trism> bwlang: though you could always just edit /etc/apt/sources.list directly if you wished
[18:49] <bwlang> trism: sure.. but then i have to deal with the whole keys business, blah blah
[18:50] <bwlang> i'm thinkig about adding dev.zenoss.com...
[18:51] <r_lex> hello
[18:51] <r_lex> my upgraded ubuntu 12.04 halts after running /scripts/init-bottom... done
[18:52] <r_lex> no errors seen, but it does not boot
[18:52] <tomreyn> alecb_: dpkg -l linux-firmware | grep ^.i
[18:53] <SystemIcon> I think my ethernet controller has been compromised by a power surge. Ubuntu is able to communicate with the device, and registers it as eth1, but is unable to establish a connection. I was curious to know if its possible to flash the firmware on the device, thinking that might possibly restore it to working order. Is that possible?
[18:53] <alecb_> tomreyn: ii linux-firmware 1.79 \n Firmware for linux kernel drivers
[18:54] <mathi> vino-preferences: 2468  Gtk-CRITICAL  gtk_entry_set_text  assertion 'text != NULL'  failed
[18:54] <mathi> :-(((((
[18:54] <mathi> why nothing work
[18:55] <r_lex> so uh... any ideas?
[18:56] <tomreyn> alecb_: so you have the firmware blobs installed already but they don't help, or not enough. it looks like your very model is not well supported. let's see if i can find a newer version of the driver and firmware.
[18:56] <alecb_> tomreyn: I've actually got to run now (class) -- I'll try and get on later though and bother you again (or someone else if you're not around)
[18:57] <r_lex> ok, another try: how i can increase verbosity of boot log?
[19:04] <prophit> If I'm SSHing from my local machine (dev@localhost) into a remote machine (user2@remotehost) - how do I set up passwordless ssh-access into the user2 account on remotehost? I've copied dev's id_rsa.pub key into .ssh/authorized_keys in user2's directory
[19:05] <tomreyn> prophit: and does it not work to use the key to authenticate now?
[19:05] <prophit> tomreyn: that's right. on dev@localhost I try: ssh user2@remotehost but I'm still prompted for a password
[19:06] <Moonlightning> Check the permissions.
[19:06] <Moonlightning> ~user2 may not be group or world-writable
[19:06] <Moonlightning> ~user2/.ssh and everything below it should be u=rwX,go=
[19:07] <tomreyn> prophit: does this work then? ssh -i ~/.ssh/name_of_the_key_id_rsa user2@remotehost
[19:07] <tomreyn> you will need to replace name_of_the_key_id_rsa by the name of the private key you created
[19:09] <prophit> tomreyn: no, it's still prompting for user2's password
[19:09] <Moonlightning> prophit: did you check the permissions? XD
[19:11] <tomreyn> prophit: if you manually installed the key on the remote system then it's likely a permissions issue as Moonlightning says. you can undo your manual changes to the remote system (delete the key you placed there) and use ssh-copy-id on your local system to install it on the remote system instead.
[19:11] <prophit> Moonlightning: chmod +rwX -r .ssh/  ?
[19:11] <tomreyn> it will set up the permissions properly for you
[19:11] <Moonlightning> prophit: `chmod -R u=rwX,go= ~/.ssh`
[19:11] <prophit> tomreyn: thanks, I'll try that
[19:11] <Moonlightning> Also `chmod go-w ~`
[19:14] <prophit> tomreyn: ssh-copy-id didn't resolve the issue, but Moonlightning's two chmod commands did
[19:14] <Moonlightning> ^^
[19:14] <prophit> thanks for the help both of you
[19:14] <Moonlightning> np ^^
[19:15] <Moonlightning> ssh should give an error about that. :V
[19:15] <tomreyn> prophit: cool. do you still have to use ssh -i ... to authenticate by key?
[19:15] <Moonlightning> It's confused me a lot…
[19:15] <prophit> tomreyn: no
[19:15] <tomreyn> good
[19:15] <prophit> Moonlightning: you said it makes that directory "world writable" - what does that mean?
[19:15] <Moonlightning> o+w, or word-writable, means that anyone can write to it.
[19:15] <tomreyn> other (last bit) is set to writable
[19:16] <Moonlightning> last three bits *
[19:16] <Moonlightning> (Something like 'Ignoring ssh key because ~/.ssh is world-writable' would be helpful. :P )
[19:16]  * Moonlightning (wonders if they take enhancement requests)
[19:16] <Tico> adib: hey adib, you available?
[19:16] <prophit> so that means any other user with access to remotehost can edit user2's .ssh/ folder?
[19:16] <tomreyn> Moonlightning: i think it does say so in auth.log, doesn't it?
[19:16] <Moonlightning> prophit: usually, yes
[19:17] <Moonlightning> tomreyn: yes, but non-root users can't read that
[19:17] <Moonlightning> And if you can't `ssh` into the remote machine anyway…
[19:17] <prophit> Moonlightning: that doesn't sound like an ideal situation
[19:17] <Moonlightning> prophit: exactly. XD
[19:17] <adib> tomreyn:  ask tj i suck at dis :P
[19:18] <adib> tico i suck at ubuntu dont ask me
[19:18] <tomreyn> adib: not sure what you mean?
[19:19] <Tico> okey :/
[19:19] <adib> nothign actual was wrong tab :P
[19:19] <Tico> i just don't know if i need to boot the windows (ubuntu) or the efi (ubuntu too)?
[19:19] <tomreyn> Moonlightning: i'm pretty sure it's a security measure not to disclose to remote hosts trying to authenticate why they cannot.
[19:20] <Moonlightning> tomreyn: but is what the permissions on remote:~/.ssh are set to really helpful to an attacker?
[19:22] <tomreyn> Moonlightning: i guess telling someone "hey, on this system you were trying to authenticate on anyone who already got local access can read this users' authorized_keys" is a bit problematic, yes.
[19:22] <Moonlightning> …oh. o.o
[19:22] <tomreyn> but there can be better reasons i can't think of now
[19:22] <caz> Hi there
[19:23] <caz> I'm encountering an issue while sharing a folder with samba for windows
[19:24] <SnapSnap> Sometimes my computer freezes up for no apparent reason. When I hit CTRL-ALT-F1, it says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191449/  This repeats every second or two until it unfreezes.
[19:25] <tomreyn> SnapSnap: this indicates a media error on internal or removable disks
[19:25] <SnapSnap> tomreyn, so the disk is trying to read something, something's wrong with the hard disk that keeps it from being read, and it freezes?
[19:26] <caz> I'm sharing a web site folder through samba, running well, I can see it in windows network, I can access it, modify it with notepad
[19:27] <tomreyn> SnapSnap: if you have a cdrom/dvd in your drive, remove it and see if it helps. same if you have any external storage attached. if you don't have that then chances are your hard disk needs replacement. make backups now if you haven't done it yet, then install smart utilities and run a long self-test.
[19:27] <caz> Then, I try with my favorite editor (aptana) to create a project from existing sources (the shared folder)
[19:27] <designbybeck> Besides "uname -a" what other commands will give you good ssytem info?
[19:27] <caz> But it result by a non working share.
[19:27] <stark1> hey whats up room
[19:27] <tomreyn> SnapSnap: yes, you just summed this up correctly.
[19:29] <ipatron> Greetings all, I'm trying to log into my old admin account after upgrading to 11.10 (this was some 6-8 months ago, yes). I've looked up the forums and the solution seems to be removing the "Xauthority" file, however, when i go to terminal and try to execute the command "sudo rm ~/.Xauthority" i just get an error message saying "no such file or directory." I'm unsure how to proceed. I'd like...
[19:29] <ipatron> ...to access my old files.
[19:29] <Ihsan_> Hello, I'm trying to encrypt my crypted partition (With bitlocker from Windows 7) with dislocker. Im now trying to execute the command: sudo dislocker-file -V encrypted bitlocker -p563200-557084-108284-218900-019151-415437-694144-239976 --decrypted.ntfs, but it says that 'dislocker-file: command not found.. What do I need to do?
[19:29] <SnapSnap> tomreyn, thanks for the help. Do you happen to know the package name for smart utilities?
[19:30] <Moonlightning> Ihsan_: you're probably missing a package.
[19:30] <Ihsan_> Oh, could you help me discover what kind of package I need to download or need?
[19:30] <Moonlightning> Or maybe dislocker-file is in /sbin or something that's not in your $PATH
[19:30] <Moonlightning> Try `apt-cache search dislocker-file`
[19:30] <Moonlightning> It's probably called dislocker or something like that.
[19:31] <Ihsan_> apt-cache didnt work
[19:31] <Ihsan_> i didnt get errors though
[19:31] <Moonlightning> What version of Ubuntu?
[19:31] <Ihsan_> but i executed command again, nothing happens
[19:31] <Ihsan_> the newest
[19:32] <Ihsan_> 12.04
[19:32] <Ihsan_> i think
[19:32] <FloodBot1> Ihsan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:32] <Ihsan_> yeah
[19:32] <Ihsan_> I'm sorry, but could you please help me with using 'dislocker-file' as said in the 'man 1 dislocker'?
[19:33] <Moonlightning> …guess it's not in the repos. Hang on.
[19:33]  * Moonlightning googles this
[19:33] <Moonlightning> Google for 'dislocker-file ubuntu' turned up http://superuser.com/questions/376533/how-to-access-bitlocker-encrypted-drive-in-linux which links to http://www.hsc.fr/ressources/outils/dislocker/download/
[19:34] <Moonlightning> Try downloading the tarball from that last page…do you know how to install from source. Ihsan_?
[19:34] <Moonlightning> , *
[19:36] <dr_willis> !find dislocker-file
[19:36] <dr_willis> Hello, I'm trying to encrypt my crypted partition (With bitlocker from Windows 7)...... You did mean DEcrypt?
[19:38] <wutz> good night guys
[19:38] <wutz> can any1 help me with a wifi switching issue?
[19:38] <wutz> im using a fujitsu siemens esprimo mobile v5055
[19:38] <Hyperbyte> wutz, bit difficult to answer that question without knowing exactly what your problem is.
[19:39] <wutz> im installed madwifi and wicd
[19:39] <Hyperbyte> But I'm sure anyone will do their best.
[19:39] <wutz> i did rfkill list
[19:39] <wutz> and no1 of the stuffs are blocked
[19:39] <wutz> ifconfig and wlanconfig is seems to be ok
[19:39] <wutz> but
[19:39] <wutz> i have a router
[19:39] <wutz> im alrdy removed all the firewall options and etc shiz from it
[19:39] <wutz> and my laps
[19:39] <wutz> wifi still cant see it
[19:39] <wutz> atm i tried ndiswrapper
[19:40] <zykotick9> !enter | wutz
[19:40] <Moonlightning> !flood | wutz
[19:40] <wutz> so
[19:41] <wutz> the problem is i think i cant switch my wifi on, its eanbled in bios 2.
[19:41] <Ihsan_> sudo dislocker -V encrypted.bitlocker -p563200-557084-108284-218900-019151-415437-694144-239976 --decrypted.ntfs
[19:41] <Ihsan_> sudo dislocker-file -V encrypted.bitlocker -p563200-557084-108284-218900-019151-415437-694144-239976 --decrypted.ntfs, is the command that doesnt work, it says command not found
[19:41] <dr_willis> wutz:  ive had some odd laptops where i had to toggle/turn on the wifi in windows, then it worked in linux. I made sure to never touch the wifi switch again.
[19:41] <copec> In Ubuntu 12.04(.1) is there a specific way to enable the cgroups ns (namespaces) subsystem?
[19:41] <wutz> so
[19:42] <wutz> if i put a windows on
[19:42] <Eagleman> Why isnt this working in rc.local?
[19:42] <dr_willis> Ihsan_:  so have you installed anything to give you the dislocker command?
[19:42] <Moonlightning> Ihsan_: that means that the `dislocker` program isn't in any directory that's in your $PATH, which probably means `dislocker` isn't installed on your machine.
[19:42] <Eagleman>  /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start &
[19:42] <Ihsan_> Oh
[19:42] <Eagleman> It works when i type in the command myself
[19:42] <wutz> in virutalbox, and put the utility in it, i can turn it on ?
[19:42] <Moonlightning> Ihsan_: did you see my earlier post?
[19:42] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  differnt default path, and rc.local is running it as root which may not be what you want.
[19:42] <Eagleman> dr_willis: i've placed it after exit 0...
[19:43] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  it has to be BEFOR exit 0
[19:43] <Ihsan_> I CD'ed to my desktop where dislocker-pub.map is, and then CD'ed to src, and did sudo make install, and I successfully created the .bitlocker file, now i need to dislock-file it
[19:43] <Moonlightning> Eagleman: there's your problem XD
[19:43] <Eagleman> Teamspeak itself is running as an seperate user
[19:43] <WeThePeople> hi
[19:43] <Eagleman> atleast i think is it
[19:43] <Eagleman> Any idea how to see that?
[19:44] <dr_willis> wutz:  theres no need to msg me.. and a wifi tool in vbox will not be affecting the actual hardware on the pc.
[19:44] <wutz> then i need to
[19:44] <dr_willis> ps ax | grep teamspeak    perhaps
[19:44] <Moonlightning> !pm | wutz
[19:44] <dr_willis> the last line in rc.local should be 'exit 0'
[19:44] <Eagleman> 1536 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep --color=auto teamspeak
[19:44] <Eagleman> so it is
[19:44] <wutz> so i need to do a win install here ?
[19:44] <crypted> how could one change the port for vino-server?  i keep having flood attacks of attempted logins.
[19:45] <Moonlightning> Eagleman: that line is just for the command you just typed. XD
[19:45] <dr_willis> crypted:  best bet would be to ssh tunnle the vnc traffic not leaveing it open to the wild internet.
[19:45] <Eagleman> i know dr_willis i taught it was something else but i just entered it wroing
[19:45] <Eagleman> Moonlightning: ?
[19:45] <Moonlightning> Eagleman: if that's the only line in the output, `teamspeak` must not be running.
[19:45] <crypted> dr_willis: so no quick config i guess?
[19:45] <Moonlightning> Eagleman: when you `ps aux | grep whatever`, there will always be a line in the output for the `grep whatever`
[19:45] <Eagleman> root@Eagleman:/home/robin# ps ax | grep teamspeak  1564 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto teamspeak
[19:45] <wutz> ty for the support guys
[19:46] <wutz> cya
[19:46] <Eagleman> So what is the problem?
[19:46] <Eagleman> i think it is running
[19:46] <jeep> crypted: best practices is to block every connection except those you explicitly want if it all possible
[19:46] <tomreyn> copec: you want linux 3.5 for proper cgroups support
[19:46] <crypted> allrighty
[19:47] <Moonlightning> Eagleman: the '1564 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto teamspeak' line isn't for teamspeak itself, it's for the command you used to see if teamspeak was running
[19:47] <copec> tomreyn:  Doesn't LXC use the namespaces subsystem?
[19:47] <tomreyn> copec: yes it does, but i assume you want proper isolation?
[19:48] <Eagleman> Moonlightning:  I wanted to find out on which user teamspeak was running
[19:48] <Eagleman> So i am a bit confused with what you are saying
[19:48] <Moonlightning> Eagleman: `ps` prints a list of processes running on the system.
[19:48] <Moonlightning> Yes?
[19:48] <copec> tomreyn:  So can I trust lxc isolation on a default 3.2 kernel in 12.04?
[19:49] <Eagleman> i can connect and it is running as the user teamspeak
[19:49] <Eagleman> so
[19:49] <Moonlightning> So when you `grep something`, then `grep` will be running on the system, yes?
[19:49] <tomreyn> copec: no. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LxcSecurity
[19:49] <Eagleman> em
[19:49] <Eagleman> grep searches in the output of the previous command
[19:50] <Moonlightning> Right.
[19:50] <Eagleman> ps | grep teamspeak
[19:50] <Moonlightning> Since `ps` includes the entire command in its output, `grep` won't filter out the entry in `ps` output for itself.
[19:50] <Eagleman> only shows the line with teamspeak in it
[19:50] <Moonlightning> Wrong.
[19:50] <taowa> I can't open the ubuntu iso
[19:50] <zykotick9> Eagleman: try "ps aux | grep -i teamspeak"
[19:50] <Moonlightning> It shows the line for teamspeak AND the line for `grep`
[19:50] <Eagleman> omg
[19:50] <Eagleman> what is the problem
[19:51] <Eagleman> root      1692  0.0  0.0   9376   952 pts/0    S+   21:50   0:00 grep --color=auto -i teamspeak
[19:51] <Eagleman> so it runs as root?
[19:51] <Moonlightning> That's not teamspeak.
[19:51] <Moonlightning> That's grep
[19:51] <Eagleman> what
[19:51] <Moonlightning> Look at the command!
[19:51] <copec> tomreyn:  Thanks for the link, I've been using the cpu and blkio subsystems sucessfully with the cglib, and now I want to expirement with namespaces
[19:51] <netmk> 0:00 grep --color=auto -i teamspeak
[19:51] <Moonlightning> > grep --color=auto -i teamspeak
[19:51] <copec> the subsystem isn't even showing up however
[19:51] <netmk> is grep
[19:52] <Moonlightning> Okay…
[19:52] <Moonlightning> I did this on a system I know for sure is NOT running teamspeak.
[19:52] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  or the process name is not 'teamspeak'
[19:52] <Moonlightning> Eagleman: http://pastebin.com/46F26SWT
[19:52] <copec> tomreyn:  if I cat /proc/cgroups, I get blkio, cpu, cpuset, cpuacct,  devices, freezer, memory, perf_event but no ns
[19:52] <Eagleman> root      1133  0.6  0.4 660004  8624 ?        Sl   21:43   0:03 ./ts3server_linux_amd64
[19:52] <tomreyn> copec: get an up to date kernel.
[19:52] <Eagleman> Now i understand what you mean Moonlightning
[19:52] <taowa> I can't open the ubuntu .iso
[19:53] <Moonlightning> XD
[19:53] <dr_willis> taowa:  how are you trying to open it?
[19:53] <Pici> Moonlightning: you could type any word you want, and it will show up as a process because that is what grep is running.
[19:53] <Eagleman> so it is running as root?
[19:53] <Moonlightning> Eagleman: yes, that ts3server_linux_amd64 is running as root.
[19:53] <Moonlightning> Pici: basically, yes.
[19:53] <copec> tomreyn:  ty
[19:53] <Eagleman> so add su -c teamspeak infront of the rc.local command?
[19:53] <taowa> On mac : double click it (opens in DiskImageMounter)
[19:54] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  if you want it to run as a differnet user yes...
[19:54] <Eagleman> well i do
[19:54] <Eagleman> since running it as root is a security risk
[19:54] <cdavis> When I start my laptop I get no X and an error "Filed to Initialize the Nvidia kernel module..." If I just log into console and do /etc/init.d/lightdm restart X works fine?
[19:54] <dr_willis> assuming the service dosent require running as root...
[19:54] <taowa> Tells me no mountable file systems
[19:55] <dr_willis> taowa:  what are you planning on doing with the iso? most people burn them to cd...
[19:55] <taowa> Exactly
[19:55] <dr_willis> then use a cd burning app..  not mounting it..
[19:55] <Eagleman> root@Eagleman:/home/robin# su -c teamspeak /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh stop Unknown id: /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh
[19:55] <dr_willis> !burn
[19:55] <tomreyn> copec: i'm not sure whether all features LXC depends on are actually available in linux 3.5, but it surely improves cgroups support a lot. i aslo do not know whether that's sufficient to fille the gaps around isolation. unfortunately the LXC website isn't exactly vocal on these critical issues.
[19:55] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  you made a teamspeak user?
[19:56] <Eagleman> yes i did
[19:56] <Eagleman> adduser teamspeak --disabled-login --no-create-home
[19:56] <Moonlightning> Eagleman: you probably need to stop teamspeak as root (since you started it as root)
[19:56] <dr_willis> I wonder if the teamspeak guides mentiuon the proper way to run it at boot time.
[19:56] <taowa> My burning software requires me to open it first
[19:56] <dr_willis> taowa:  sounds like rather poor software.
[19:56] <Eagleman> I've stopped teamspeak
[19:57] <Eagleman> su -c teamspeak /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start
[19:57] <dr_willis> taowa:  you burn it as an image, you dont mount/copy the files to a differnt cd.
[19:57] <LiDaR> dr_willis: information like that is too secret to be given away freely to the public i bet
[19:57] <Eagleman> Unknown id: /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh
[19:57] <Moonlightning> Shouldn't that be `-u teamspeak`?
[19:57] <dr_willis> LiDaR:  or its right there as a #1 faq item that no one ever looks for.,
[19:57] <copec> tomreyn:  I'm just confused how cgroups has been around since linux 2.6, and all the subsystems show up on the latest default kernel on an ubuntu 10.04 box I have...but the namespace one is missing on an ubuntu 12.04 box
[19:57] <Moonlightning> …oh, wait, no.
[19:57] <zykotick9> Eagleman: 2 commands not one (i'd guess) perhaps "su -c teamspeak && /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start" might work?
[19:57] <Eagleman> sudo -u teamspeak /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start
[19:57] <Eagleman> started
[19:58] <copec> tomreyn:  and then I see stuff like this:  http://www.stgraber.org/2012/05/04/lxc-in-ubuntu-12-04-lts/  that makes it seem like lxc should be great on 12.04
[19:58] <Moonlightning> Eagleman: you have that in the wrong order.
[19:58] <Moonlightning> …`sudo -u` works too
[19:58] <Moonlightning> That's what I was thinking of.
[19:58] <dr_willis> http://robert.penz.name/296/howto-install-teamspeak-3-server-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid/  shows how to make a real service for teamspeak3 ;)
[19:58] <copec> tomreyn:  but the default kernel is missing a subsystem it needs
[19:58] <taowa> Where do I find out my loco team's channel
[19:58] <dr_willis> Eagleman:   the teamspeak user does own the teamspeak dir/files?
[19:58] <dr_willis> chown -R teamspeak /opt/ts3
[19:59] <Eagleman> well yes and no since i started it as root and root made some files
[19:59] <DJones> taowa: Which country are you looking for a loco in?
[19:59] <Froward> !brainstorm Ubuntu registers mouseclicks from my (Asus) touchpad very sluggishly. Also it doesn't simulate middle click!
[19:59] <Froward> UGH
[20:00] <Froward> Even your BOT is confusing and requires excessive perusal of arcane documentation!
[20:00] <dr_willis> thats not a brainstorm type item anyway...
[20:00] <Froward> man I dunno
[20:00] <dr_willis> !brainstorm
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> Froward  it's because she's a woman
[20:00] <Froward> oh
[20:00] <Eagleman> 1002      2139  1.6  0.3 531812  8148 pts/0    Sl   21:59   0:00 ./ts3server_linux_amd64
[20:00] <dr_willis> But reports go to a differnt place..
[20:00] <Eagleman> Now it runs as user teamspeak
[20:00] <dr_willis> !bugs
[20:00] <Froward> MonkeyDust: your joke is boring.
[20:00] <taowa> Found it
[20:00] <dr_willis> a check of the forums or askubuntu.com for your exact make/model laptop - may show some tipstricks/tweaks for known issues
[20:00] <Eagleman> Will this work in my rc.local file?
[20:01] <Eagleman> sudo -u teamspeak /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start
[20:01] <jeep> Eagleman: no
[20:01] <Moonlightning> You might have to include the full path to `sudo`, but I don't see why not.
[20:01] <Moonlightning> Then again, I know nothing about rc.local XD
[20:01]  * Moonlightning shuts up
[20:01] <jeep> sudo is interactive needing a password typed
[20:01] <Moonlightning> Not if you run it as root
[20:02] <tomreyn> copec: did you spot this? "NOTE: Until we have user namespaces implemented in the kernel and used by the LXC we will NOT say that LXC is root safe, however the default apparmor profile as shipped in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS is blocking any armful action that we are aware of."
[20:02] <jeep> \if your running a command as root then you dont need sudo
[20:02] <Eagleman> em
[20:02] <vman> jeep visudo and look at the examples... you can set nopasswd
[20:02] <Moonlightning> Not necessarily, jeep
[20:02] <Eagleman> i want to use sudo to run it not as root
[20:02] <zykotick9> jeep: when run as root (like from rc.local) i wouldn't think it would require a password (not positive)
[20:02] <aLeSD> hi all
[20:02] <saliak> If i set a kernel argument during boot, is there a way to confirm it got set after the system has started up?
[20:02]  * Moonlightning checks this
[20:03] <TJ-> saliak: "cat /proc/cmdline"
[20:03] <dr_willis> from rc.local you could use 'su' to switch to the user. not sudo
[20:03] <Eagleman> So what do i enter in rc.local to run teamspeak as the user teaamspeak?
[20:03] <Eagleman> su teamspeak /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start &    ?
[20:03] <copec> tomreyn:  I didn't, I guess I need to pay closer attention and stop bothering people :)
[20:04] <tomreyn> copec: it's on the stgraber.org page you posted. they tried to work around the security issues in lxc by adding apparmor profiles. to me this sounds like they really badly needed to have "lxc support" on their feature list for 12.04.
[20:04] <saliak> TJ-: awesome, thanks!  I guess I actually did not set the kernel parameter during boot successfully :(
[20:04] <Moonlightning> Eagleman: `su -c "$command" $user`
[20:04] <TJ-> saliak: In GRUB boot menu, press 'e' on the entry, edit the line beginning "linux..." then press Ctrl+X
[20:04] <Moonlightning> su -c '/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start' teamspeak
[20:05] <zykotick9> saliak: was TJ-'s answer "cat /proc/cmdline"?
[20:05] <TJ-> saliak: Don't accidentally add it to the line beginning "initrd..."
[20:05] <saliak> TJ-: I think that's what I did.. will try again
[20:05] <saliak> zykotick9: yes
[20:05] <Eagleman> su -c /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start & teamspeak
[20:06] <dr_willis> i think the & is in the wrong place....
[20:06] <Eagleman> lol
[20:06] <saliak> TJ-: ok.  it's my router so I'll try again and see how it goes.  actually, what do I edit to make it permanent?  I've read a few things online, but there seems to have been a change in what files to edit, etc over the years.
[20:06] <zykotick9> saliak: to make it permanent edit /etc/default/grub
[20:07] <zykotick9> saliak: fyi you need to run "sudo update-grub" after making any changes to apply them
[20:07] <saliak> zykotick9: I don't have a /etc/default/grub now
[20:07] <TJ-> saliak: router? you mean it's an embedded device?
[20:07] <Eagleman> dr_willis: where do i have to place the & then?
[20:07] <zykotick9> saliak: really?  are you using grub2?
[20:07] <saliak> TJ-: no.  a full blown system, but it's my dhcp server/firewall/etc.
[20:07] <dr_willis> at the end of the command line.. like always...
[20:08] <saliak> zykotick9: I don't know.  there's a /boot/grub/...
[20:08] <dr_willis> not befor one of the commands arguments. ;)
[20:08] <Eagleman> Well maybe its second nature for you but its not for me
[20:08] <dr_willis> it always goes at the end... alwyas has.. you were using it the same way earlier.
[20:08] <TJ-> saliak: Ahhh OK. IF you've installed grub correctly the administration packages will install /etc/default/grub which you edit to change things such as the command line
[20:09] <Eagleman> Anyways it is not starting
[20:09] <saliak> zykotick9: like, in /boot/grub/grub.conf, there's a section at the end that looks tempting to edit (it has the boot options  listed.  would i just add the flag to one of the lines there?
[20:09] <zykotick9> dr_willis: & doesn't always go at the end...  "ls & ls" will basically run the two at the same time.
[20:09] <jeep> Eagleman: teamspeak is the client that should run as your user account right ?
[20:09] <Eagleman> su -c /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start teamspeak &
[20:09] <Eagleman> it is possible
[20:09] <zykotick9> saliak: if you don't have /etc/default/grub i can't help you.  good luck.
[20:10] <dr_willis> ls & dirtolist      however is total.. well.. confusion
[20:10] <TJ-> Eagleman: "su  teamspeak -c /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start"
[20:10] <Eagleman> Usage: /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh {start|stop|restart|status}
[20:10]  * Moonlightning blinks
[20:10] <zykotick9> dr_willis: & is to run the next command, while && is run the second after the first completes successfully
[20:11] <saliak> TJ-: this has been a system i'v ebeen upgrading for about 8 years now .  it was a clean install way back.  how do i install the administration packages?
[20:11] <Moonlightning> Options can go after the username like that?
[20:11] <TJ-> Eagleman: *always* read the man-page! "Additional arguments may be provided after the username, in which case they are supplied to the user's login shell. In particular, an argument of -c will cause the next argument to be treated as a command by most command interpreters"
[20:12] <Froward> how do I add multiple chat accounts to the drop down thingee in the top right corner?
[20:12] <TJ-> saliak: Usually the "grub" package would do, but it sounds as if that may have inherited an old grub1 config and it hasn't been replaced on upgrade.
[20:12] <Eagleman> TJ-:
[20:12] <Eagleman> root@Eagleman:/home/robin# su teamspeak -c /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start
[20:12] <thedangler> hello. I'm having issues with my ssh server on my box.  I can't seem to connect from my mac. I can connect fine from ubuntu to the mac though.  connecting to the ubuntu box works speratically. sftp same problem.  Very frustrating.
[20:12] <saliak> TJ-: yeah, it sounds like that might be the case.  is there a way to fix that?
[20:12] <Eagleman> Usage: /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh {start|stop|restart|status}
[20:12] <Moonlightning> Try quoting it.
[20:13] <Moonlightning> su teamspeak -c "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start"
[20:13] <saliak> TJ-: well, lemme see if this kernel flag fixes the problem i started off tackling. then can go from there i guess.
[20:13] <rymate1234> hey
[20:13] <TJ-> saliak: I seem to recall that installing the grub2 packages installs a script that will do the conversion if you manually launch it. Do a quick web-search for that
[20:13] <rymate1234> I want to enable bitmap fonts in ubuntu for my terminal
[20:13] <rymate1234> How would I do this?
[20:13] <saliak> TJ-: ok, will do. thanks!
[20:14] <dr_willis> rymate1234:  for what terminal app?
[20:14] <rymate1234> gnome-terminal
[20:14] <Eagleman> 1002      1180  0.8  0.3 531812  8128 ?        Sl   22:14   0:00 ./ts3server_linux_amd64
[20:14] <Eagleman> IT WORKS at a reboot
[20:14] <Froward> I found it! It's [envelope] > Chat > Edit > Accounts
[20:14] <Eagleman> thanks everyone
[20:15] <dr_willis> /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh status    shows the status
[20:15] <dr_willis> your ussage past showed that. ;)
[20:15] <TJ-> Eagleman: Do you know about the teamspeak server package in the archives? It has a proper service start/stop script for upstart/sysv-init
[20:15] <Eagleman> TJ
[20:16] <Eagleman> thats teamspeak 2
[20:16] <taowa> How much is a ubuntu CD
[20:16] <TJ-> Eagleman: Yes... but it has the service wrapper, which you can usually trivially adapt for your own version
[20:16] <rymate1234> dr_willis, so how would I do it?
[20:16] <Eagleman> Well it works this way
[20:16] <jeep> taowa: downloading on dialup is faster than snail mail
[20:16] <merk_> yop !
[20:17] <JoeyJoeJo> I'm making an offline installer so I can easily deploy new machines. Is there a way for apt-get to download a package and all of its depenancies to a specified folder?
[20:17] <tonsofpcs> yes
[20:17] <tonsofpcs> in fact, it does by default.
[20:17] <zykotick9> !aptoncd | JoeyJoeJo this might help?
[20:17] <tonsofpcs> there's an apt cache folder that it pulls everything into
[20:17] <taowa> However installing is impossible without a drive that can burn
[20:17] <jeep> JoeyJoeJo: /etc/apt/cache
[20:17] <taowa> !aptoncd
[20:17] <taowa> !cd
[20:18] <zykotick9> jeep: i think you mean /var/cache/apt/archives JoeyJoeJo
[20:18] <jeep> zykotick9: yeah thanks
[20:20] <jeep> JoeyJoeJo: how many machines do you deploy it is possibly you do network installs across your network ... only worht setting up if your doing alot though
[20:21] <dr_willis> i find an apt-cacher-ng server handy on my small home lan.
[20:21] <jeep> i think 5+ machines doing it that way would be handy
[20:22] <duckxx> whats the best way to monitor a server? via top and mytop? or are there better tools out there? how about htop ?
[20:22] <marcappuccino> Does anyone know whether the new window minimize and unminimize animations in Quantal beta 1 will be permenant?
[20:22] <duckxx> is there even a gui interface that does the same similar functionality as top and mytop ?
[20:22] <zykotick9> duckxx: htop is way better they top.  i've never heard of mytop
[20:22] <TJ-> pxeboot + apt-cacher-ng is a very useful combination ... I have a script that auto-mounts and adds to a pxe boot menu every ISO I download so they appear over  TFTP and NFS
[20:22] <jrib>  !quantal | marcappuccino
[20:23] <JoeyJoeJo> duckxx: gkrellm
[20:23] <vman> duckxx ... the "best" way is to have something else monitor it and alert on problems.
[20:23] <duckxx> no im running a server
[20:23] <duckxx> no gui
[20:23] <TJ-> duckxx: For proper monitoring you might want to explore SNMP agents and something like nagios
[20:23] <duckxx> vman but sometimes i want to see what queries are being run when people hit my site
[20:23] <zykotick9> duckxx: you just asked for a GUI solution?
[20:23] <duckxx> so i can see which sites are being hammered or not
[20:24] <dr_willis> !info ntop
[20:24] <duckxx> a gui meaning via the browser
[20:24] <TJ-> duckxx: Sounds like you mean you want to see the active connections on an apache2 web server
[20:24] <duckxx> where i can login... would be awesome if there was an ajax app tat did tat
[20:24] <dr_willis> ntop shows more info then i even know about. ;)
[20:24] <duckxx> yea
[20:24] <TJ-> duckxx: see the apache2 'status' module
[20:24] <dontknow> intel integrated graphics driver that comes default with ubuntu is official intel driver?
[20:25] <sylohack> how do u star using ubuntun
[20:25] <sylohack> some body helpme
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> sylohack  start with a question
[20:25] <marcappuccino> shylohack doo you have something stopping you from using it?
[20:25] <TJ-> sylohack: Get a USB stick or CD/DVD with a LiveCD image installed to it from the Ubuntu download pages
[20:26] <duckxx> is ntop live data feed ?
[20:26] <TJ-> dontknow: Yes
[20:26] <ska> 12.04 has no /dev/shm mounted.. Do I instead use /run/shm?
[20:26] <marcappuccino> shylohack http://www.ubuntu-manual.org/
[20:27] <ska> I'm trying to harden ubuntu, but all the docs say to reconfigure /dev/shm in /etc/fstab
[20:27] <TJ-> ska: mount it :)
[20:27] <sylohack> thanks marca and how i star to hack over here u khwon
[20:27] <BebopSteve> I imported 10 pdf pages into gimp and made edits to one of them, but suddenly the file context menu won't open, nor any of the others.  Any way I can circumvent this without losing my changes?
[20:27] <sylohack> i can but alittle beat
[20:28] <marcappuccino> shylohack you want to learn to code?
[20:28] <ska> TJ-: Good point.. wonder why mount says /run/shm instead.
[20:29] <TJ-> ska: we moved everything!
[20:29] <TJ-> ska: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/57297/why-has-var-run-been-migrated-to-run
[20:30] <dontknow> TJ-, i see, intel graphics gives good performance on linux
[20:30] <sylohack> hide my ip okey let me explain to u i star hacking in amm windows but a friend told that for all that stuff are better amm ubuntu so i star to leran but i dont to mucho how to use\
[20:31] <TJ-> dontknow: Good for most things I think, Intel focus on general workloads not high-performance though
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> sylohack  define "hacking"? is it legal?
[20:31] <taowa> ubottu is is a member of wich loco team
[20:31] <marcappuccino> shylohack what do you mean by hacking? Haking the operating system or learning programming languages like python or BBC BASIC?
[20:31] <jeep> sylohack: for some reason im sure its gonna be years before your a credible threat lol
[20:31] <dr_willis> sylohack:  i suggest learning some usefull skills like 'python programing' instead of vague things like 'hacking'
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> taowa  ubottu is a robot, a machine
[20:31] <taowa> I know
[20:32] <sylohack> yes sr  i whas tstarin about hacking and craking
[20:32] <Eagleman> Why does /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini not exist?
[20:32] <sylohack> can u show me how to do it
[20:32] <BluesKaj> BebopSteve, you can open them with evince, why place them in gimp?
[20:32] <dr_willis> sylohack:  Given the vagueness of your request. no.
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> sylohack  wrong channel, better ask elsewhere
[20:32] <marcappuccino> shylohack what do you want to do? what were you trying to do in windows before you came to ubuntu
[20:32] <Eagleman> Why does /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini not exist?  I've installed things in this order:  http://pastebin.com/p1iQKQus
[20:32] <dr_willis> sylohack:  i suggest spending a day or 2 learning bash, and vi to  build your linux foundation of skills, then move up.
[20:33] <dr_willis> bbl
[20:33] <TJ-> "Hacking" is improving on existing code ... "cracking" is doing illegal things with malice
[20:33] <dr_willis> hacking = chopping down the weeds in my yard.. ;)
[20:33] <marcappuccino> dr_willis lol
[20:33] <dr_willis> Cracking = the sound my back makes the next day after  a hard day of hacking....
[20:33] <ulkesh> ...or coughing up phlegm
[20:33] <TJ-> Eagleman: did you install apache2-mod-php5 ?
[20:33] <sylohack> mm wel i was learning how to use python nmap sql stuf f
[20:34] <Eagleman>  Unable to locate package apache2-mod-php5
[20:34]  * TJ- giggles @ dr_willis ... I know that feeling after finishing at 6am far too many times
[20:34] <sylohack> but id odnt alot of that stuff i what to lear abotu te hacking penetreion of vulnerabilyty website
[20:34] <saliak> TJ-: I'm doing the grub2 installation.  I'ma t the part where it's asking me where to install grub.  I have 3 drives.  does it make sense to install it to all 3 (sda,sdb & sdc)?  i only boot from sda
[20:34] <bekks> sylohack: Then just start lerning on how to code in python, how to use nmap, learn to code in sql, etc.
[20:34] <sylohack> u khown what i mean
[20:34] <marcappuccino> shylohack start one thing at a time - learn python first as it is a nice language
[20:34] <bekks> *learning even
[20:34] <saliak> TJ-: is there a downside to installing on sdb and sdc?
[20:34] <TJ-> saliak: Well not really, unless you're in the habit of telling the BIOS to boot from different drives! Just the one the BIOS reads first in its boot order
[20:35] <TJ-> saliak: Yes, confusion later if you move drives around!
[20:35] <saliak> TJ-: fair enough.
[20:35] <Eagleman> So how do i install apache2-mod-php5 ?
[20:35] <jeep> saliak: always use sda it will save you many future headaches !
[20:35] <TJ-> saliak: Because *all* of grub isn't installed, only the boot-strap sector and the first stage ... no modules, no menu, or anything you'd associate with the public face of GRUB
[20:35] <BebopSteve> BluesKaj: Because I haven't heard of it?  The pdf files I'm working with is just 702 pages scanned from a book anyway, I need to rotate/crop/resize selection on about 75-150 of the pages to make them look neat on an ereader
[20:36] <TJ-> Eagleman: from the archives the same way as any other package. First identify its exact package-name then install it
[20:36] <BebopSteve> BluesKaj: Can you do that with envice?
[20:36] <saliak> TJ-: ok.  that was my inclination and now you've convinced me :)
[20:36] <TJ-> saliak: Sensible chap :)
[20:36] <saliak> TJ-: ok, now i have /etc/default/grub.  i just edit GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and add my parameter, eh?
[20:37] <BluesKaj> BebopSteve, only if you scanned them to pdf extension
[20:37] <TJ-> saliak: That and then do "sudo update-grub" so it can write those changes to the grub menu and other things
[20:37] <TheHumanScience> very weird...for some reason after trying to fix my brightness issues in lucid now my sudo apt-get update wont work and xchat was removed from my machine...i had to reinstall it. any ideas?
[20:38] <Eagleman> And where can i find the archieve?
[20:38] <BebopSteve> BluesKaj: Many of the pages are uneven and briss cannot accurately crop them all until I make these changes ;(
[20:38] <TJ-> Eagleman: according to apt-file the package is "libapache2-mod-php5"
[20:38] <Eagleman> How did you find that?
[20:39] <jeep> TheHumanScience: pastebin the error from apt-get update
[20:39] <TJ-> Eagleman: "archive" means the Ubuntu software archives/repositories where all the free/open source software from Ubuntu is stored
[20:39] <Eagleman> But how can you search in it?
[20:39] <aLeSD> hi all
[20:39] <TJ-> Eagleman: "apt-file search /etc/php5/apache2"
[20:39] <TheHumanScience> E: Invalid operation udpate
[20:39] <Eagleman> aaha
[20:39] <jeep> TheHumanScience: type it correctly
[20:40] <TJ-> Eagleman: I have the package "apt-file" installed to do that kind of thing. You can do it online at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[20:40] <marcappuccino> upate
[20:40] <aLeSD> is there a way to print something in /var/log/kern.log .. it seems not working anymore
[20:40] <TheHumanScience> omg....i feel like a putz
[20:40] <TJ-> TheHumanScience: :D it happens to us all! Typos are the bian fo uor ilves!
[20:40] <Eagleman> bookmaarked and documenred
[20:40] <Eagleman> documented
[20:41] <mark06> what's an alternative to CCleaner in Ubuntu that can clean specific cookies and perform operation from command line?
[20:41] <BluesKaj> BebopSteve, probly a little late , but the next time try this , http://askubuntu.com/questions/5112/scan-many-pages-straight-into-a-pdf
[20:41] <arduinoob> .msg nickserv identify %timsnick1
[20:41] <BebopSteve> BluesKaj: I was kinda hoping you knew of some holy grail pdf application that I've been on this epic quest for, haha.  Looking at Evince from google, isn't Ubuntu packaged with it
[20:41] <jeep> TheHumanScience: if you cant type .. you may be interested in using alias to fix it for yourself !
[20:41] <arduinoob> awesome
[20:41] <MrDigerati> Noob. hehe!
[20:41] <DJones> arduinoob: New password time :)
[20:41] <arduinoob> where's the undo button
[20:41] <MrDigerati> yeah! new pass time
[20:41] <marcappuccino> BebopSteve envice is the best thing, but it doesnt edit pdfs
[20:42] <marcappuccino> only vews
[20:42] <marcappuccino> *views
[20:42] <fulcan> I am trying to get remote syslog services running but cannot get the port to initialize. The recommended setting do not work for rsyslod. config fails to initialize port 514?  http://www.rsyslog.com/receiving-messages-from-a-remote-system/
[20:42] <BluesKaj> BebopSteve,evince might be defauly in ubuntu , not sure since I run KDE
[20:43] <BebopSteve> BluesKaj: Oh no it's already scanned, it's a large pdf file with 702 pages that I burst with PDF Chain and now I'm individually editing them with gimp
[20:43] <BluesKaj> BebopSteve, sounds like a f'fun project"  :P
[20:43] <saliak> TJ-: beauty.  got it working (both the grub upgrade and the kernel option that fixed another issue). thanks for the help!
[20:43] <TheHumanScience> thanks guys!
[20:43] <jeep> BebopSteve: id be lick screw this and go buy the book
[20:43] <tomreyn> copec: you may want to try this, too: http://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_413
[20:44] <BebopSteve> Haha but I want to use this nook!  And this book isn't sold in digital format :(
[20:44] <jeep> BebopSteve: just keep roatating the nook be less work than rotating the .pdfs lol
[20:44] <MrDigerati> Hey! Each time I open Vuze thru a shellscript it brings along a window saying an "Error has Occurred". Asks me to submit it. Finally Vuze opens and runs great and this window says it is happening because of some third party libs. What do you suggest that I do?
[20:44] <arduinoob> anyways so I'm trying to setup an ad-hoc network
[20:45] <arduinoob> well, actually an infrastructure network
[20:45] <arduinoob> but the networkmanager gui is broken so it won't save
[20:45] <marcappuccino> MrDigerati sudo apt-get build-dep vuze  (not sure of package name)
[20:45] <arduinoob> is there a config file somewhere so I can change the network from "ad-hoc" to "infrastructue"
[20:46] <BebopSteve> jeep: But it's more than that, some pages are bigger, others smaller and off to a corner, and a quick crop through briss won't work without these manual edits because it cuts off material from the bigger pages! erk
[20:46] <MrDigerati> Marcappuccino: Thing is I am not on the software-channel. Its straight from the Website.
[20:46] <arduinoob> nice jeep
[20:46] <arduinoob> thanks
[20:46] <marcappuccino> !info vuze
[20:46] <jeep> arduinoob: your welcome
[20:47] <arduinoob> you tupe too slow
[20:47] <jeep> i waited on purpose ;)
[20:47] <marcappuccino> you can stil do the command and it will build the dependencies.
[20:47] <arduinoob> I know
[20:47] <MrDigerati> Alright. cool. I will check it.
[20:47] <arduinoob> well, i didn't know but... i figured
[20:47] <BebopSteve> jeep: but heck maybe I can share my efforts once I am finished, if anyone is learning japanese poke me
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> arduinoob  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc#Example_Interfaces_File
[20:48] <chucho> hi im new and i need some help
[20:48] <BebopSteve> ask
[20:48] <copec> tomreyn:  heh, nice link, I'm looking at the apparmor profile now,
[20:48] <jeep> !ask | chucho
[20:48] <arduinoob> MonkeyDust: NetworkManager is not changing that file though
[20:48] <marcappuccino> chucho what is your problem?
[20:49] <MrDigerati> marcappuccino: It is doing a fresh install.
[20:49] <arduinoob> MonkeyDust: I was hoping to edit whatever file networkmanager thinks it's editing
[20:49] <[Hun]> How to make on linux html webpage?
[20:49] <marcappuccino> marcappuccino of ubuntu or vuze?
[20:49] <copec> tomreyn:  I'm working specifically on a shared web hosting setup, I've been arbitrating resources with cgroups, now I'm chrooting cgi's...I think I'm going to write an apparmor profile for it
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> [Hun]  Kompozer
[20:49] <MrDigerati> LOL! Vuze
[20:49] <jeep> [Hun]: bluefish !
[20:49] <[Hun]> Momkeydust ty
[20:49] <chucho> im using jolicloud in a netbook sony vaio, everything works ok except for sound
[20:49] <BebopSteve> [Hun] bluefish +1
[20:49] <arduinoob> [Hun]: vim
[20:49] <copec> tomreyn:  namespaces seemed like it would have been more simple and easy
[20:50] <MrDigerati> I have aborted it. I can live with the Notification.
[20:50] <MrDigerati> Thanks anyway.
[20:50] <jeep> real men use VI to make webpages
[20:50] <marcappuccino> sorry
[20:50] <arduinoob> jeep: ^^
[20:50] <nick91> jeep: real men don't make webpages
[20:50] <tomreyn> copec: i haven't actually (re-)tried lxc lately, just keep reading it's not there, yet.
[20:50] <fulcan> I am trying to get remote syslog services running but cannot get the port to initialize. The recommended setting do not work for rsyslod. What am I missing?  http://www.rsyslog.com/receiving-messages-from-a-remote-system/
[20:51] <BebopSteve> jeep: and the nightmares in the deep for the debugging haunts you in your sleep
[20:51] <marcappuccino> what i would do is purge the qebsite installed one and install from the repos, i beleive sudo apt-get build-dep vuze then sudo apt-get install vuze
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> [Hun]  or even Drupal
[20:52] <marcappuccino> dont take my word for it though!
[20:52] <[Hun]> Thanks
[20:52] <jeep> i think my favorite is still quanta plus though
[20:52] <BebopSteve> I am not a fan of drupal ><
[20:53] <marcappuccino> BeboopSteve concrete5!
[20:53] <jeep> nick91: a womens job used to be cook/clean now its html .. progress for the fairer sex i tell you!
[20:53] <guntbert> !ot | jeep
[20:54] <guest9876765> hello, my system was ok, but i have a power outage not long ego, now my regular user is not on de sudoers file, if try to write /etc/passwd, or /etc/group or anything is saying those files are lock, is the a way i can fix that? am in th recovery console rightnow as root, thanks
[20:54] <nick91> guntbert: so you don't support women on #ubuntu?
[20:54] <nick91> guntbert: what kind of policy is that?
[20:54] <marcappuccino> nick91 no he was providing an example lol
[20:55] <marcappuccino> he is promoting equality
[20:55] <nick91> marcappuccino: that's completely inadequate
[20:55] <guntbert> nick91: don't be silly, this channel is for support and that chatter is out of place here
[20:55] <jeep> this channel is out of control .. not on topic its ridiculous trying to help people under these conditions!
[20:55] <marcappuccino> oh sorry i thought you were talking about jeep
[20:56] <guest9876765> any help please?
[20:56] <jeep> guest9876765: a power outage would cause that
[20:56] <jeep> *not
[20:56] <guest9876765> jeep yes, it did in fact
[20:57] <guest9876765> any ways am out of the system after that, i can login as my username but there is no way i can add or change anything or be sudo
[20:57] <guntbert> guest9876765: see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[20:57] <guest9876765> becouse passwd/group is "lock"
[20:58] <guest9876765> guntbert: the problem i dont have a broser :s can you directme in the right way?
[20:58] <jeep> guest9876765: are you in single user mode .. or just in a shell ?
[20:58] <guest9876765> single user mode as root
[20:59] <Twich_Up> Hey guys
[20:59] <marcappuccino> hi
[20:59] <guest9876765> but i try to usermod <user> -G root or even visudo sudoers but the whole deal is lock
[20:59] <jeep> guest9876765: sounds like the drive is mounted read only .. remount it
[21:00] <guntbert> guest9876765: step 1) mount -o rw,remount /
[21:00] <Twich_Up> It's cold on the ice, the penguins? ?
[21:01] <fulcan> I am trying to get remote syslog services running but cannot get the port to initialize. The recommended setting do not work for rsyslod. What am I missing?  http://www.rsyslog.com/receiving-messages-from-a-remote-system/
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> Twich_Up  wrong channel
[21:01] <Twich_Up> ^^
[21:01] <marcappuccino> Twitch_up you have a question?
[21:01] <jeep> !ot > Twich_Up
[21:01] <Twich_Up> No thanks.
[21:01] <marcappuccino> !ot
[21:01] <guest9876765> guntbert: ok
[21:02] <guest9876765> then ?
[21:02] <merlia> hi
[21:02] <Twich_Up> I just wanna know if with iOS 6 idevices will be compatible ubuntu...
[21:02] <guest9876765> guntbert: this is the only tty i have, that means i have to leave irssi
[21:03] <Twich_Up> Caus' all my computer is on Linux, so i can't use my iPod touch... --'
[21:03] <guest9876765> guntbert: am writting this in paper so i will do that
[21:03] <guntbert> guest9876765: step 2) look into /etc/group
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> Twich_Up  first try it with a live cd or usb stick
[21:03] <guest9876765> guntbert: after i leave this chat
[21:03] <guntbert> guest9876765: don't leave yet :)
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> Twich_Up  missed your ast line
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> last*
[21:04] <guest9876765> guntbert: ok, that i will look in to /etc/group
[21:04] <Twich_Up> What ??
[21:04] <Twich_Up> Sorry i'm not english
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> Twich_Up  type ipod for information
[21:04] <guntbert> guest9876765: do you have a live CD from which you can boot?
[21:04] <marcappuccino> Twitch_up you must initialize it on windows first i beleive then you can synch music etc via rhythmbox. if not you can dual-boot windows-of-the-carribian
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> !ipod
[21:05] <jeep> guest9876765: in the future .. i suggest installing lynx so you have a browser in the cli ;) it may save you one day!
[21:05] <guest9876765> guntbert: i think so, i have to look for, this is a direct install, is not a vmware
[21:05] <Twich_Up> Okay : iPod Touch 4th Gen with iOShit 5.1.1
[21:05] <guest9876765> jeep: yes i will
[21:05] <marcappuccino> please dont swear
[21:05] <marcappuccino> if you must, use ***s
[21:05] <Twich_Up> Sorry
[21:05] <Twich_Up> So...iPod Touch 4th Gen with iOS*** 5.1.1
[21:06] <guest9876765> which group my user have to be in order to sudo su?
[21:06] <marcappuccino> Um, but is this brand new? the ipod touch?
[21:06] <rymate1234> hey
[21:06] <marcappuccino> hello
[21:06] <rymate1234> trying to use gnome-tweak-tool with gnome
[21:06] <rymate1234> I get this error D:
[21:06] <rymate1234> (gnome-tweak-tool:10351): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.gnome.shell.extensions.user-theme' is not installed
[21:06] <Twich_Up> Not really, that's old than the iPhone
[21:06] <guntbert> guest9876765: I was asking because the next steps depend on what really happened in your system - so it will be much easier (for both of us :-)) fi you can look for yourself at the page I told you about
[21:06] <guntbert> *if
[21:07] <marcappuccino> rymate1234: when doing what?
[21:07] <rymate1234> launching it
[21:07] <Twich_Up> and it's like an iPhone, but can't phone
[21:07] <jeep> could be easier to passwd root so you can log it in with su
[21:07] <jeep> and then fix everything so your not stuck single user
[21:08] <guntbert> !noroot | jeep
[21:08] <guest9876765> guntbert: i know, but since i have no browser, heh, hmm i need to make my user into /etc/sudoers file, if i only can do that then i normal boot and sudo su and do all the stuff
[21:08] <marcappuccino> Twitch_up yes i know, but im not sure because last time i tried to initialize my ipod i thing
[21:08] <Twich_Up> Nobody have a solution for work f****g iTunes on Ubuntu ?
[21:08] <Twich_Up> Wine don't work
[21:08] <jeep> guntbert: lol
[21:08] <marcappuccino> i think it had a selection for ipod touch
[21:08] <TheLordOfTime> !language | Twich_Up
[21:08] <TheLordOfTime> Twich_Up:  iTunes doesn't behave with Wine
[21:08] <guntbert> guest9876765: thats why I suggested using a live CD
[21:09] <TheLordOfTime> it never has
[21:09] <TheLordOfTime> !appdb | Twich_Up
[21:09] <TheLordOfTime> stupid lag on my end...
[21:09] <guest9876765> guntbert: am gone try mount rw / and try to write into /etc/soduers, see what happend
[21:09] <TheLordOfTime> what's the best Ubuntu (or derivative) that will run on a low-RAM, low disk space HP Mini 110 netbook?
[21:09] <TheLordOfTime> (assuming i get drivers fixed and what not)
[21:10] <guntbert> guest9876765: Good luck!
[21:10] <guest9876765> thatnks, brb
[21:10] <marcappuccino> rymate1234 if your problem is purely gnome related, go to #gnome
[21:10] <TheLordOfTime> Twich_Up:  for iTunes, the only way to get it to work on Linux is to not use LInux.  That's one of those softwares that's evil.
[21:10] <Twich_Up> ...
[21:10] <Twich_Up> And VirtualBoxOSE ?
[21:10] <marcappuccino> (it is closed source)
[21:11] <marcappuccino> virtualbox with windows should work
[21:11] <Twich_Up> Great
[21:11] <marcappuccino> only if you have the windows dvd or iso
[21:11] <TheLordOfTime> Twich_Up:  should work
[21:11] <Twich_Up> So, i gonna search a Windobe CD... Bye !
[21:12] <TheLordOfTime> Twich_Up:  might be a pain to set up though
[21:12] <bekks> Twich_Up: Since vbox 4.0, they only thing not published as open source is the extension pack.
[21:12] <TheLordOfTime> Twich_Up:  also, you need a legal key, pirating Windows is not a good idea
[21:12] <Twich_Up> I know
[21:12] <Twich_Up> Iv' got a licence
[21:12] <tizbac> Twich_Up, i give you an advice , do not buy apple products
[21:12] <marcappuccino> windows 8 release candidate google it
[21:13] <Twich_Up> (Yeah, now i know)
[21:13] <TheHumanScience> so anyone know why xchat would be suddenly not installed on a laptop?
[21:13] <tizbac> they are overpriced , especially ipods and they give the same function if not less of chinese mp3 players
[21:13] <Twich_Up> Absolutly
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> TheHumanScience  sudo apt-get install xchat, or use synaptic or the software center
[21:13] <TheHumanScience> only thing i have done was adjusted the brightness controls
[21:14] <TheHumanScience> no it has been on my laptop for weeks...all of a sudden today i had to install it again
[21:14] <Twich_Up> I don't know why i'm obliged to use iTunes just for music... --' So stupid
[21:15] <TheLordOfTime> TheHumanScience:  could be a glitch or something, perhaps it got autoremoved by something else, or by an upgrade?
[21:15] <TheLordOfTime> TheHumanScience:  some dependent packages, when upgraded, sometimes break the software depending on them, so...
[21:15] <guntbert> Twich_Up: that is no ubuntu support problem - so please drop that discussion - here
[21:15] <TheHumanScience> no upgrades but i have updated a few times
[21:22] <marcappuccino> wow its quiet
[21:23] <ranveer5389> yeah it is :)
[21:23] <aviddd> anyone got pidgin-otr to compile in precise?
[21:23] <aviddd> v4.0 i mean
[21:23] <TheHumanScience> are backlight and brightness actually separate adjustments...i can adjust the brightness with xgamma but the contrast and other colors dont seem to be right. any ideas?
[21:26] <mib_mib>  hi guys, i installed rvm on one users account, but it isn't in the path for the other users account, how do i make it so both users can use rvm? do i need to duplicate the .rvm folder?
[21:26] <Morgawr> hello everyone.. I'm trying to run the new ubuntu beta (12.10) on a kvm virtual machine just to see how it goes.. however when I go installing it it says that it fails on the step "Select and Install Software" after asking me what type of updates I want to use (automatic, manual, etc etc)
[21:26] <Morgawr> is this a known issue?
[21:27] <thedangler> Anyone here have issues with ssh connection from mac to ubuntu?
[21:27] <guntbert> !12.10 | Morgawr
[21:27] <Morgawr> guntbert: alright
[21:27] <guntbert> !anyone | thedangler
[21:28] <thedangler> I have asked no one answers. I asked I can ssh to my mac but I can't ssh to the ubuntu box. it works randomly. I have an Airport Express router.
[21:29] <Morgawr> thedangler: is this related to ubuntu itself or linux? what is the command you are using to ssh? is the ssh server installed on the machine?
[21:29] <Morgawr> how's the network layout?
[21:29] <thedangler> no iptables set up. no firewall.
[21:30] <thedangler> yes ssh server is installed.. how would it work randomly if it wasn't.
[21:30] <guntbert> thedangler: what do the logs on ubuntu say? start ssh -v from the mac, so it gets more verbose
[21:30] <Morgawr> ah so sometimes it works.. sorry, didn't read that
[21:30] <thedangler> Im thinking its a network issue but not sure if its ubuntu or the router.  all computers internet works fine. just when I try to ssh to the ubuntu box do I have issues.
[21:31] <thedangler> guntbert done that. i get an Operation timed out. no real connection debug info is given
[21:31] <achandra> drussell, ping
[21:31] <guntbert> thedangler: at the same time: are you able to ping ubuntu?
[21:32] <TheHumanScience> Twich_Up: itunesubuntu.org
[21:32] <jeep> thedangler: if your at the ubuntu box does ssh localhost work even when the mac cant connect ?
[21:32] <TheHumanScience> i know that REALLY late
[21:32] <jrib> thedangler: are you using encrypted home directories?
[21:32] <guntbert> thedangler: another possibility: does DNS resolution work on the ubuntu box?
[21:33] <jeep> TheHumanScience: your a fast one!
[21:34] <dzup> thanks, i did a remount rw / and usermod <user> -G sudo root  reboot and am here again, but that was weird
[21:34] <dzup> guntbert, :)
[21:34] <jeep> dzup: welcome back
[21:34] <dzup> thatnks jeep :)
[21:34] <thedangler> jeep yes
[21:34] <guntbert> !yay | dzup
[21:35] <dzup> that was some weird deal :)
[21:35] <thedangler> guntbert  DNS resolution... not sure how would I check?
[21:35] <jeep> thedangler: then sshd is fine you can focus network/firewall issues
[21:36] <jeep> thedangler: what kind of router is it ?
[21:36] <thedangler> I have no firewalls up.  the only thing i can tink of is the airport express shitty router.
[21:36] <dzup> i was uploading my svn code to googlecode, 1/2 way into the submit power off for like 5 seconds, and when i reboot i was out :(
[21:36] <marcappuccino> please dont swear
[21:36] <taowa> I agree it is bad
[21:37] <guntbert> thedangler: you would notice it at once - try    host netzmafia.de    should return "immediateley" with an answer
[21:38] <Morgawr> quick and rather stupid question, what's the name of the login manager that ubuntu uses?
[21:38] <beboj> should I install debian?
[21:38] <jeep> !debian
[21:38] <marcappuccino> lightdm or the unity greeter
[21:39] <marcappuccino> (what they call the unity greeter (canonical))
[21:39] <Morgawr> marcappuccino: thanks
[21:39] <zeta-> Anyone know why haskell-platform is only 2<IP_ADDRESS>, when 2012,2,0,0 was released June 3 and is in quantal?
[21:39] <zeta-> Individual packages have been updated -- some newer than haskell-platform 2012,2,0,0 -- so I want just the platform.  Isn't the platform pkg just a list of pkg versions?
[21:40] <jrib> zeta-: are you asking a question about quantal?
[21:40] <marcappuccino> zeta-: #ubuntu+1
[21:40] <thedangler> guntbert worked fine...
[21:41] <thedangler> jeep  I'll have to steal a router from somewher and test it to see if its the express fault.
[21:41] <jeep> thedangler: do you use qos spi or any other feature in the router that does similar things ?
[21:41] <guntbert> thedangler: I thought so - did you try the ping at a time when you could not connect?
[21:42] <marcappuccino> jono bacon?(!)
[21:43] <thedangler> yeah, I can't ping to it.. which is odd.
[21:43] <zeta-> jrib: no, I'm on precise.  but there's the version I want available for quantal.
[21:43] <jeep> thedangler: it could be the wifi just drops thats why guntbert is inquiring about making outside connections
[21:43] <thedangler> when it doesn't work , i cant ping
[21:44] <jrib> zeta-: are you familiar with ubuntu's update policies on released versions?
[21:44] <jeep> thedangler: syslog have any errors ?
[21:44] <jono> marcappuccino, yup
[21:45] <marcappuccino> community manager?
[21:45] <jono> marcappuccino, yep
[21:45] <zeta-> jrib: not really ...
[21:45] <guntbert> thedangler: if you can't even ping I'd blame the wlan AP/router
[21:45] <jrib> !sru | zeta-
[21:45] <marcappuccino> oh! hello.
[21:45]  * zeta- isn't
[21:46] <jono> hey! :-)
[21:47] <jeep> thedangler: signal strength and neighbors wifi on same channel is next thing to check
[21:47] <beboj> thx jeep that was helpfull :P
[21:48] <ev__> anyone know vlc well? I am having the following error http://pastebin.com/avT961ec. trying  to stream to android device, for what its worth. thanks.
[21:48] <marcappuccino> i tried your recent quickly tutorial, jono, it was very good, though there was an error for me on the first self.something() bit for the refreshbutton. i wonder if you have heard this before from others?
[21:48] <datruth> How can I stop fsck from running at boot?
[21:48] <jono> marcappuccino, I haven't
[21:48] <jono> thanks for trying the tutorial!
[21:48] <hesgreat> anyone rent out cheap linux?
[21:48] <marcappuccino> ah ok must be me then.
[21:49] <jeep> hesgreat: ill rent you some ubuntu!
[21:49] <hesgreat> anyone rent out vps
[21:49] <hesgreat> ?
[21:49] <jeep> beboj: your welcome
[21:49] <zeta-> jrib: so why have all the pkgs that are contained in the platform been updated -- some newer than haskell-platform 2012,2,0,0?
[21:49] <hesgreat> anyone rent out vps
[21:49] <hesgreat> ?
[21:49] <jrib> hesgreat: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[21:49] <jeep> !patience > hesgreat
[21:51] <jrib> zeta-: I don't know how haskell packages are dealt with offhand
[21:51] <thedangler> jeep that effects it?  what should I look for in the syslog?
[21:52] <zeta-> jrib: Is there a way to use the pkg from Quantal?
[21:52] <jrib> zeta-: not supported, but sure you can try
[21:52] <marcappuccino> thedangler: i beleive you should look for an 'E: ' (for error)
[21:53] <Jordan_U> !prevu | zeta-
[21:53] <jeep> ev_: is there more error above what you posted ?
[21:53] <jeep> thedangler: if your wifi drops .. then you have no connection ping not working at same time ssh fails reflects this issue
[21:53] <zeta-> jrib: 8) thanks
[21:54] <jrib> zeta-: note there's an open bug against the quantal package
[21:54] <jeep> thedangler: if you look for wireless do you pick up multiple ones ?
[21:56]  * zeta- looking...
[21:57] <datruth> sigh
[22:03] <parto> Hae everyone. My thunderbird is using up 100% cpu. Anyhow to solve that? Using 11.04
[22:03] <noskcaj> upgrade to 12.04?
[22:03] <marcappuccino> that would solve a lot of prebems
[22:04] <parto> @noskcaj. Planning on doing that before the month ends but for now am stuck with 11.04
[22:05] <jeep> parto: have to tried disabling addons ?
[22:05] <marcappuccino> parto: system specs?
[22:06] <parto> jeep: Not yet. Let me try that and get back to you.
[22:06] <marcappuccino> bye all
[22:07] <dork> anyone have an issue with X not starting because of nvidia module stating: NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidia0 (Input/output error). (/dev/nvidia0 exists but when you cat it, you get i/o error)
[22:08] <BalthaTczar> Is there an easy way to set up an FTP server ?
[22:08] <BalthaTczar> preferably perhaps with a graphical user interface ?
[22:09] <parto> jeep: yah, cpu back to normal. Al just look into which addon is eating up my cpu. Thanxs alot :-)
[22:09] <jeep> BalthaTczar: ftp servers should be avoided what are you trying toaccomplish maybe there is a better way
[22:10] <jeep> parto: yeah system of elimination disable one at a time till you find it
[22:10] <BalthaTczar> jeep, i'd like to transfer files easily between my laptop and pc
[22:10] <jeep> BalthaTczar: linux on both ?
[22:10] <drchaos> Hello. I am on an old system with 512MB of RAM and a GeForce 4 MX 440 with 64MB of VRAM and AGP 8x
[22:10] <BalthaTczar> jeep, no linux on laptop and osx on computer
[22:11] <jeep> BalthaTczar: perfect i suggest using nfs
[22:11] <drchaos> I require to manually restart unity 2d shell after manually starting compiz to get "DAsh home"/Alt+F2 screens to appear
[22:11] <anuxi> hi!
[22:11] <jeep> !nfs
[22:11] <BalthaTczar> ok , i'll check that out
[22:11] <drchaos> it's strange...otherwise the applications panel does not appear
[22:11] <BalthaTczar> thnx
[22:13] <jeep> drchaos: have you ever tried fluxbox or window maker ?
[22:14] <jeep> drchaos: on a older system you may enjoy them
[22:15] <drchaos> jeep: huh?
[22:15] <drchaos> I'm enjoying Compiz it's just that it's buggy, probably something related to maximum texture size
[22:17] <AnDsO> how can i connect <IP_ADDRESS> system to <IP_ADDRESS> system by ststic routiing
[22:17] <AnDsO> static*
[22:18] <krupawan5618> Hi guys how do i boot into my ubuntu partition after i have it installed/
[22:18] <Jordan_U> krupawan5618: Normally you simply boot your machine. I'm guessing that's what's happening for you. What happens when you try to boot?
[22:19] <krupawan5618> it just boots into window
[22:19] <krupawan5618> s
[22:19] <Jordan_U> krupawan5618: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[22:19] <AnDsO> how can i connect <IP_ADDRESS> system to <IP_ADDRESS> system by ststic routiing
[22:19] <krupawan5618> no i created a partition on just one
[22:19] <krupawan5618> ubuntu guided me into the creation of this partition during the installation
[22:19] <drchaos> Gnome is loaded with Python apps, too heavyweight for this old computer
[22:20] <jeep> AnDsO: those are ips from two diffrent networks what are you trying to do?
[22:20] <faryshta> Hi. I have the ethernet manager configured to have two possible manual IP's. How can I make the second one the default?
[22:20] <drchaos> I just need 4GB of RAM
[22:20] <AnDsO> i juz wanna communicate
[22:20] <Jordan_U> krupawan5618: Did you use the automatic partitioning option of the installer? If not (you chose the "Something else" option), did you change the setting for where grub's boot sector should be installed?
[22:21] <krupawan5618> Grub does not even show up. I ddi use the automatic partitioning option
[22:21] <faryshta> I have the network manager configured to have two possible IP's set manually. How can I make the second one the default?
[22:21] <krupawan5618> No i did not change that setting
[22:21] <AnDsO> jeep:how can i create a static route for that
[22:21] <Jordan_U> krupawan5618: Please boot a LiveCD/USB, run boot info script, and pastebin the RESULTS.txt.
[22:22] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | krupawan5618
[22:22] <AnDsO> both  are in simple lan
[22:22] <jeep> AnDsO: why dont you connect everything onto one network ?
[22:22] <AnDsO> i wanna learn routing :)
[22:23] <zeta-> jrib: you still around?
[22:23] <jeep> AnDsO: you need a computer connected to both networks do you have that ?
[22:23] <AnDsO> is it possible to connect both
[22:23] <krupawan5618> how do i even run ubuntu after i put in the usb, do i choose run ubuntu without installing?
[22:23] <krupawan5618> There's no option to just run ubuntu
[22:23] <AnDsO> i juz connected via switch
[22:24] <TheLordOfTime> krupawan5618:  "Try ubuntu before installing" is the right option, but your data won't be "saved"
[22:24] <drchaos> how do I remove the ubuntu-desktop metapackage?
[22:24] <drchaos> I want all the Gnome crap gone
[22:25] <jeep> AnDsO: you need router1 --> computer1-nic1 router2 --> computer1-nic2
[22:26] <zeta-> jrib: seems that pkg haskell-platform 2<IP_ADDRESS> _has_ been updated to what 2012.2 should be! :-s
[22:26] <krupawan5618> will do. i will return shortly as the username otter
[22:26] <thedangler> jeep sorry.  the internet works fine only issue I have is trying to connect to my ubuntu box over ssh.
[22:26] <datruth> Maximum mount count:      -1 <-- would this make my system run fsck every boot
[22:27] <AnDsO> so its not possible only by creating routing table in ubuntu
[22:27] <jeep> drchaos: apt-get remove offensive-package
[22:28] <otterpaw> ok, so I had the ubuntu disc check itself for errors
[22:28] <otterpaw> so that's currently running
[22:28] <otterpaw> also, he lied, he was just helping me with my computer, I'm not him
[22:28] <TheLordOfTime> jeep:  that only removes the metapackage, not the gnome stuffs that are referred to by that package
[22:33] <otterpaw> Ok, so I ran the script and got "bash: /usr/bin/sudo: Input/output error
[22:33] <jeep> AnDsO: you need the hardware to go with the ubuntu
[22:34] <otterpaw> I'm dumb, never mind
[22:34] <otterpaw> I forgot to get the file -_-
[22:34] <BalthaTczar> Seems i've lost my audio driver, any easy way to figure out what i need and install it ?
[22:35] <BalthaTczar> Sound settings only gives me a Dummy Output sound option
[22:35] <Zayca> what do you think about site we makes esterday? this is it http://mebelko39.ru :D
[22:36] <Jordan_U> !ot | Zayca
[22:36] <AnDsO> u mean 2 nics?
[22:36] <Zayca> what do you think about site we makes esterday? this is it -->   http://mebelko39.ru :D I need true.
[22:36] <Zayca> ubottu ok :(
[22:36] <Zayca> ubottu but here is so much people
[22:37] <jeep> Zayca: is it running ubuntu and apache ?
[22:37] <DuhIdiot> Somebody who's less of a dumb noob than me please help:
[22:38] <parto> Zayca, what language is that?
[22:38] <Zayca> jeep almous.. it is in joomla
[22:38] <parto> DuhIdiot, what's up?
[22:38] <jeep> looks like russian maybe
[22:38] <Zayca> jeep O! joomla is opensoursed :D
[22:38] <Zayca> parto it is russia
[22:38] <Zayca> *n
[22:38] <DuhIdiot> I'm trying to create a partition into which to install Zorin 6 (I hope it's OK that this isn't exactly an Ubuntu issue)
[22:38] <debiantoruser> UBUNTU!
[22:39] <jeep> !zorin
[22:39] <Jordan_U> DuhIdiot: This channel only supports Ubuntu.
[22:39] <jeep> DuhIdiot: ubuntu is the one true linux we only assist with ubuntu here!
[22:41] <parto> DuhIdiot, Ubuntu stuff only
[22:41] <Zayca> Lets talk about something in time i am here!
[22:41] <otterpaw> The boot_info_script won't run
[22:41] <DuhIdiot> Righty-O.
[22:42] <xid> anyone have a suggestion for the easiest way to automatically  create users from LDAP or kerberos from a Windows Active Directory server?
[22:42] <jeep> Zayca: only if your time issue is setting the clock in ubuntu
[22:42] <otterpaw> I followed the directions to the T, but I'm getting that there's no such file or directoruy
[22:42] <unless> Does anybody here knows how to install open MPI oven Ubuntu by any chance?
[22:42] <Zayca> jeep i am windowsed
[22:42] <otterpaw> I can see the file too
[22:43] <TJ-> otterpaw: how are you trying to run it, and from which directory relative to the file?
[22:43] <otterpaw> I'm running it from the terminal, and the downloads directory
[22:44] <TJ-> otterpaw: firstly, a file must have eXecute permissions for your user; second, if it isn't in the shell's PATH you have to specify it's path and name to start it. By default - unlike Windows - Linux does NOT include the current directory in the PATH
[22:44] <TJ-> otterpaw: So, assuming the file is executable you'd run a program in the same directory using ./<programname>
[22:45] <otterpaw> I ran sudo bash ~/Downloads/bootinfoscript*.sh
[22:45] <otterpaw> I also tried boot_info_script
[22:45] <otterpaw> but the actual file was no spaces, so I figured that the post was an older version
[22:45] <TJ-> otterpaw: "*" is not a legal character in a filename. That's a shell glob expansion character.
[22:46] <otterpaw> I'm sorry, I'm new to linux and don't know what you mean by a "shell glop expansion character"
[22:46] <TJ-> otterpaw: does the script have execute permissions "ls -l ~/Downloads/bootinfoscript*.sh" ?
[22:46] <otterpaw> How do I check?
[22:47] <TJ-> otterpaw: ^^^ I just gave you the command to use to check
[22:47] <otterpaw> ooh, sorry]
[22:48] <TJ-> Computer Studies at Pitt? hmmmph!
[22:48] <otterpaw> no such file or directory :(
[22:48] <trever> Um
[22:48] <otterpaw> I could just drag-drop
[22:48] <TJ-> otterpaw: Does the file exist ?
[22:48] <otterpaw> the file
[22:49] <trever> Can anyone tell me how to get minecraft to work, it was working before but now it's not
[22:49] <otterpaw> It exists, I have the folder with it open
[22:49] <TJ-> otterpaw: use "ls" to check if you've got the filename exactly correct: "ls -l ~/Downloads/*.sh"
[22:49] <otterpaw> TJ: As a freshman CS major, I feel like I'm obligated to learn linux :p
[22:49] <TJ-> otterpaw: I agree with you 200% :p
[22:50] <TJ-> otterpaw: We'll help you get there :)
[22:50] <fdds> why do I get put in ubuntu chan when starting xchat?
[22:50] <TJ-> fdds: Because it's the friendliest channel around?
[22:50] <otterpaw> well, the directory doesn't exist haha
[22:50] <fdds> and where are proxy settings in xchat2 gnome these days?
[22:50] <TJ-> otterpaw: Hmmm!
[22:50] <otterpaw> do I need quotes?
[22:50] <TJ-> otterpaw: How can you be 'seeing' it if the directory doesn't exist?
[22:50] <otterpaw> or something to signify?
[22:50] <otterpaw> No idea, I have the folder open
[22:51] <TJ-> otterpaw: What's the complete path to the folder?
[22:51] <otterpawOnLaptop> ls -1 '/home/ubuntu/Downloads/bootinfoscript'
[22:51] <otterpawOnLaptop> works
[22:51] <otterpawOnLaptop> I drag-dropped
[22:52] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: sudo /home/ubuntu/Downloads/bootinfoscript
[22:52] <fdds> someone point me to support for xchat irc client, need to know how to setup proxies...
[22:53] <MonkeyDust> !proxy > fdds
[22:53] <otterpawOnLaptop> http://pastebin.com/8Bh5M5K1
[22:54] <otterpawOnLaptop> My problem is that Grub isn't working
[22:55] <otterpawOnLaptop> I don't see it on startup at all
[22:55] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: The probelm is that grub isn't installed at all. That doesn't make much sense if you ran Ubuntu's installer with default options and didn't see any error messages.
[22:56] <otterpawOnLaptop> That's weird
[22:56] <otterpawOnLaptop> I'm running this off of the image right now, but I know that it installed
[22:56] <otterpawOnLaptop> I saw the partitions made for Ubuntu
[22:56] <aperson> I have an acer aspire one netbook and two-finger scrolling does not work (option is grayed out).  the wiki states that it works out of the box.  what can I do to enable this?
[22:57] <TJ-> Jordan_U: otterpaw What is 'installed' is a pendrive image of the liveCD
[22:57] <otterpawOnLaptop> I know, but I went through the main install
[22:57] <TJ-> Jordan_U: scratch that! My eyes scanned the info wrong!
[22:57] <Jordan_U> TJ-: There is also an Ubuntu installation there, just no grub.
[22:57] <otterpawOnLaptop> odd
[22:57] <TJ-> Jordan_U: I read the sdb as sda :p
[22:58] <otterpawOnLaptop> is there an external way to install grub?
[22:58] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#ChRoot
[22:58] <otterpawOnLaptop> should I use a different loader?
[22:58] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: No.
[22:58] <TJ-> Jordan_U: Maybe the BIOS has boot-sector protection enabled? That would prevent GRUB from updating the Windows MBR
[22:58] <TJ-> Jordan_U: Everything else in sda5 looks good
[22:59] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Many people have talked about BIOSs protecting the MBR, I've never encountered such a thing before though. I think that's most likely just a myth.
[22:59] <TJ-> Jordan_U: I have!
[22:59] <otterpaw> mdadm command not found
[22:59] <TJ-> Jordan_U: took me an hour to figure it out too.. so I remember it well :)
[23:00] <cloudgeek> just installed -jar file of UMl tool from topcoder , how i invoke it again
[23:00] <cloudgeek> or open to participate in maraton
[23:00] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: "Only If the normal system partition(s) are on a software RAID (otherwise skip this step)" Your partitions are not on software RAID.
[23:01] <TJ-> Jordan_U: otterpaw Anyhow, it looks like just the MBR. You could do a 2-stage fix. 1. do grub-setup from the pendrive just for the MBR, boot Ubuntu, then "update-grub" to pick up Windows. or 2. use the pendrive to set-up a chroot /target and do it in there
[23:02] <Jordan_U> TJ-: The grub.cfg already has an entry for Windows, and it's better to run grub-install than to try to run grub-setup manually.
[23:03] <TJ-> Jordan_U: So it does ... I obviously need sleep, I'm not seeing things right in front of me
[23:03] <otterpaw> Just so you know, I have no knowledge of the terminal right now, so I'm completely lost on the error codes when I enter commands
[23:03] <otterpaw> Jordan_U: so there's a windows installer?
[23:04] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: A windows installer for what?
[23:04] <otterpaw> Jordan_U: grub
[23:04] <TJ-> otterpaw: The overview is this, there's 446 bytes in the first sector of the boot disk that currently contain the Windows boot-strap loader. GRUB should have replaced that with it's own boot-strap, but for some reason, hasn't
[23:04] <otterpaw> Jordan_U: "The grub.cfg already has an entry for Windows"
[23:05] <otterpaw> ah
[23:05] <otterpaw> so windows is still just being a dick
[23:05] <otterpaw> I spent all of yesterday trying to figure why they needed to make 4 partitions on my laptop to begin with
[23:06] <otterpaw> And then deleted the Factory Reset partition after making an image
[23:06] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: You can install grub from Windows, but it's much easier to install from Ubuntu. My comment about the grub.cfg was simply stating that grub is already configured to be able to boot Windows, once you've actually run grub-install to install grub's boot sector.
[23:06] <otterpaw> ok
[23:06] <TJ-> otterpaw: that boot-strap loader is small so all it can do is find and load a few more sectors from the disk which contain some more substantial code for booting. That code is usually stored in sectors 2 to approx 2000. *that* code will then find and read the partition with the grub modules and menu in (/boot/grub/) and finally do the menu and/or load the default/chosen OS
[23:07] <TJ-> otterpaw: So far as we can tell all that is missing is the first sector. It may be that the following stage sectors aren't there also, but we'd need to test to discover that.
[23:08] <otterpaw> TJ-: Ok
[23:08] <otterpaw> TJ-: Can you guide me through this in your best "for dummies" impersonation?
[23:08] <TJ-> otterpaw: what's the make/model of that PC? I can check if it has proper BIOS boot-sector protection that may stop the boot sector being written
[23:09] <TJ-> otterpaw: I'm trying my hardest already :D
[23:09] <otterpaw> TJ-: Lenovo Y580
[23:09] <BebopSteve> How do I compile one pdf from 702 single page pdfs?
[23:09] <otterpaw> TJ-: There are two variations of the Y580, mine is the 1080p one
[23:09] <otterpaw> TJ-: The name is the same though
[23:09] <TJ-> otterpaw: thanks
[23:10] <TJ-> otterpaw: You'll be please to know, that model has caused this exact same issue for others installing Ubuntu
[23:10] <otterpawOnLaptop> haha
[23:10] <otterpawOnLaptop> alright
[23:11] <TJ-> otterpaw: for reference the thread that contains this particular comment talks about it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12163110&postcount=10
[23:12] <cloudgeek> how execute a .jnlp file !
[23:13] <Jordan_U> TJ-: My recommendation is to simply run grub-install (following the directions I already linked otterpaw to) and see what happens. After running grub-install we can re-run boot info script to confirm that grub's boot sector is in the MBR.
[23:13] <otterpawOnLaptop> I'm sort of at a loss with the grub install
[23:14] <TJ-> Jordan_U: Interestingly, the people who've suffered this say the disk came with a GPT and the MBR is the standard defensive one
[23:14] <otterpawOnLaptop> by normal system partition, does it mean the ubuntu partition or the windows one?
[23:15] <Jordan_U> TJ-: That sounds like it's simply an issue of the drive looking for a UEFI loader, with Ubuntu only installing a BIOS based one. A: That's not what's happening here and B: That is not "Boot sector protection".
[23:15] <TJ-> One person says that "boot_repair" fixed it on Ubuntu for him
[23:15] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: The Ubuntu one, though in your case neither are using Software RAID.
[23:16] <TJ-> Jordan_U: Agreed.
[23:16] <rweait> just installed Precise after long use of Lucid.  How do I go back to old desktop paradigm?
[23:17] <otterpawOnLaptop> sudo mount /dev/sda5
[23:17] <otterpawOnLaptop> mount: can't find /dev/sda5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[23:18] <otterpawOnLaptop> oh wait, it needs "/mnt:
[23:18] <otterpawOnLaptop> never mind
[23:18] <wuwoot> am I actually using ssh when i use the ssh command from terminal in ubuntu 11.10?
[23:19] <otterpawOnLaptop> separate boot partition?
[23:19] <otterpawOnLaptop> does that mean a partition to boot Ubuntu or a separate bootable partition?
[23:21] <aminosamigos__> hello i ran out of space on my disk after a file recovery operation i deleted the files then emptied the trash but when i run disk analyzr it says that my .local/share/trash is 40 Gb
[23:21] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: You don't have a separate /boot/ partition.
[23:21] <otterpawOnLaptop> ok
[23:22] <otterpawOnLaptop> it looks like it probably worked
[23:22] <otterpawOnLaptop> I'm going to reset
[23:23] <aminosamigos__> i couldn't find out how to delete those but after a reboot the system wont start and first it runs on a low graphics mode but even that crashes when i choose the run low graphic option
[23:23] <aminosamigos__> i am booting from a live Cd now
[23:24] <aminosamigos__> is there a way to empty that folder from here ?
[23:24] <otterpaw> It didn't work Q_Q
[23:24] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: Please run boot info script again.
[23:24] <otterpaw> ok
[23:24] <WeThePeople> aminosamigos__, i think just mount the partition
[23:25] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: I'm going to be away for about 10 minutes, but I will be back.
[23:25] <otterpaw> ok
[23:25] <otterpaw> Thank you so much for the help
[23:25] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: What was the exact grub-install command you ran near the end of those instructions?
[23:26] <unless> I am facing a issue when configuring a application to install : checking size of Fortran 77 INTEGER*8... configure: error: Could not determine size of INTEGER*8
[23:26] <otterpaw> I'm dumb
[23:26] <otterpaw> grub-install /dev/sdX
[23:26] <otterpaw> I copy pasted
[23:26] <aminosamigos__> WeThePeople:  nautilus keeps saying that i don't have permission to access the .local directory
[23:26] <unless> Does anybody have any idea about how to solve it please?
[23:27] <WeThePeople> aminosamigos__, run sudo i first then nautilus
[23:28] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: You needed to replace the "X" with the proper letter for your drive, in your case you should have run "sudo grub-install /dev/sda".
[23:28] <WeThePeople> aminosamigos__, sudo -i
[23:28] <otterpaw> yeah
[23:28] <otterpaw> I realized as soon as I reread it haha
[23:28] <Muelli> arrgs. My middle click is gone. Now I can't use the cut buffer. I tried various things with synclient but still no luck. Anybody else in that situation with a remedy?
[23:29] <p0rk> im getting crazy packet losses only on my ubuntu box
[23:30] <aminosamigos__> well i am root WeThePeople
[23:30] <aminosamigos__> what to do ?
[23:30] <p0rk> it just comes and goes
[23:30] <p0rk> ill ping google sometimes and it will sit still for 30 seconds, then take off with pings
[23:30] <p0rk> sporadically
[23:30] <bolosaur> TJ-: You there mate? :D
[23:30] <otterpaw> do I want to mount the small linux partition, or the large one?
[23:30] <bolosaur> I'm sitting here troubleshooting my wifi again.
[23:30] <bolosaur> Was wondering if you could help. :)
[23:31] <otterpaw> "Linux" or "Linux swap / Solaris"
[23:31] <WeThePeople> aminosamigos__, can you look at the contents of the folder?
[23:31] <dr_willis> otterpaw:  you dont mount swap
[23:32] <WeThePeople> aminosamigos__, i think you have to su into root, i think..
[23:32] <bdot> what's the diffrence btw http://www.abc.com and http://www.abc.com/
[23:32] <bustacap> How can I increase the brightness of my webcam so people can actually see me o.O
[23:32] <WeThePeople> nothing
[23:33] <otterpaw> dr_willis: Ok, so the larger partition then
[23:33] <aminosamigos__> i am working from a lice Cd now
[23:33] <TJ-> bolosaur: What are you going to tax me with tonight!?
[23:33] <fidel> bustacap: background light in the room ;)
[23:33] <aminosamigos__> *live
[23:33] <WeThePeople> find out what the forward slash means in a url
[23:33] <bolosaur> TJ-: Same thing as every night.
[23:33] <bolosaur> To take over the world.
[23:33] <bolosaur> Erm no. Same thing as yesterday - wifi. :D
[23:33] <bustacap> Fidel, even with a light right in my face I can't see myself. It's an old webcam and really really dark. I always needed to make it brighter in windows too.
[23:34] <bolosaur> You were talking about checking the frequency of my Ubuntu machine's network connection iirc?
[23:34] <WeThePeople> aminosamigos__, i think you have to su into the mounted partition
[23:34] <bolosaur> to make sure it's on the same wavelength as my other devices I recall?
[23:34] <bolosaur> Okay what the hell.  Do you know a good MMO space simulator for Linux (besides Vendetta)? :)
[23:34] <bolosaur> Rofl.
[23:35] <WeThePeople> aminosamigos__, ask dr_willis he may know
[23:35] <TJ-> bolosaur: It saw me coming! I've just grepped our conversation from yesterday to refresh my memory!
[23:35] <aminosamigos__> dr_willis:  could you please help me ?
[23:35] <bolosaur> TJ-: Sorry. I shouldn't have assumed that you remembered. :)
[23:36] <bolosaur> But yeah, let me know if I can clarify anything for you.
[23:36] <bolosaur> Because hey! What's better on a friday night than helping a complete stranger set up a ghetto wifi
[23:36] <bolosaur> ;)
[23:36] <otterpaw> TJ-: Jordan_U : didn't work :(
[23:36] <jeep> bolosaur: doing it while drinking ?
[23:36] <bolosaur> Nope - I don't drink. :P
[23:37] <bolosaur> But I admit it would make things more interesting.
[23:37] <TJ-> bolosaur: My memory gets shot when I help several people... they all seem to merge into one mush :) I have it now... adhoc Ubuntu not being seen by other WiFi clients
[23:37] <bolosaur> TJ-: Gotcha, and yes, that's it!
[23:38] <TJ-> bolosaur: As you were leaving I said "802.11b/g is at 2.4GHz, 802.11a is at 5GHz. it is possible that is different at one end. You can explicitly set the band to make sure that isn't the issue"
[23:38] <bolosaur> Yeah. How can I find those parameters?
[23:39] <damianos> is pppd no longer in the ubuntu repos?
[23:40] <TJ-> bolosaur: It's in the network connections dialog for the connection you created
[23:40] <otterpawOnLaptop> http://pastebin.com/1JhMc5LN
[23:41] <WeThePeople> bolosaur, what wifi drivers you need
[23:41] <TJ-> bolosaur: When I create an adhoc connection using the NetworkManager applet, the Connection dailog's first tab is "Wireless" and on there is "Mode" and "Band". You can change Band if the hardware supports more than one bad.
[23:42] <bolosaur> WeThePeople: None. My shared wifi just won't show up on any computer
[23:42] <bolosaur> or device
[23:42] <GH0> Is there any way to have Ubuntu e-mail updates, security logs, etc nightly/weekly? Sortave like what Mandriva used to do before it sucked.
[23:42] <bolosaur> TJ-: let me see.
[23:42] <bolosaur> one sec :D
[23:42] <blackshirt> yes
[23:42] <bolosaur> (on a side note, im really starting to love linux :) )
[23:43] <blackshirt> bolosaur..that was great
[23:43] <TJ-> bolosaur: I know, it's catching. I'm currently moving my primary setup to a 2nd laptop and it's great fun :)
[23:43] <datruth> How can I disable the network manager from starting up at boot time this modem-manger?
[23:43] <bolosaur> one sec, the comp is booting again after shutting off (might be some dust in the fan or outdated bios or something)
[23:43] <blackshirt> gho, what you need
[23:43] <TJ-> bolosaur: dust can kill the machine
[23:44] <bolosaur> Yeah it's a really old machine that's been in my closet for like, years
[23:44] <bolosaur> i should probably open it up and vacuum it
[23:44] <dr_willis> !find pppd
[23:44] <blackshirt> datruth, disable on start up manager
[23:45] <datruth> blackshirt: network services?
[23:45] <TJ-> bolosaur: This one I just bought on ebay, it was trying to melt the GPU ... I opened it up, there was a 1cm thick mat of fluff between the fan and the radiator outlets! I removed the heatsink too, replaced the thermal compound, and its happy as anything now
[23:45] <p0rk> is there anyway at all to take advantage of 2x gigabit nics on ubuntu with the same subnet?
[23:45] <WeThePeople> lshw
[23:45] <WeThePeople> in terminal
[23:45] <TJ-> p0rk: bond them with a vlan
[23:45] <blackshirt> datruth, eventually you can use update-rc.d to disable them
[23:45] <dr_willis> then the hard drive speeds will be the botteneck. ;)
[23:46] <p0rk> do i need a specific switch for that?
[23:46] <p0rk> TJ-, i know nothing about VLAN's either
[23:46] <TJ-> p0rk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[23:46] <p0rk> thank you
[23:47] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: What was the last grub-install command you ran and what did it output?
[23:47] <p0rk> i just dont want to get ridiculous with the networking, its for my home
[23:47] <otterpaw> Jordan_U: it was grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX
[23:47] <otterpaw> oh
[23:47] <otterpaw> I'm so dumb
[23:47] <datruth> blackshirt: update-rc.d disable modemmanger?
[23:47] <otterpaw> but I did run grub-install /dev/sda
[23:47] <otterpaw> and it said that that worked
[23:48] <p0rk> WeThePeople, were you wanting me to run lshw?
[23:48] <jagginess> otterpaw, usually people do update-grub2<enter> do update grub.cfg too
[23:48] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: Please run it again and save the output, and don't reboot until I tell you to.
[23:48] <otterpaw> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#ChRoot
[23:48] <TJ-> damianos: pppd is in the package "ppp"
[23:49] <WeThePeople> p0rk,no
[23:51] <otterpawOnLaptop> ok Jordan_U http://pastebin.com/UhcnBwa1
[23:51] <bustacap> If anyone was wondering I found a program called "guvcview" which you can adjust brightmess of a crappy webcam ;)
[23:52] <jagginess> bustacap, that word isnt in the dictionary, brightmess, you sure don't sound bright in any case!
[23:52] <jagginess> lol
[23:52] <bustacap> Lol
[23:53] <p0rk> what is 802.3ad?
[23:53] <p0rk> do i need that feature on my switch for bonding to work?
[23:54] <jagginess> p0rk, wikipedia can tell you
[23:55] <jagginess> p0rk, i doubt it, usually trunking means way more expensive hardware equipment
[23:55] <damianos> thanks tj; actually I noticed that either openswan or xl2tp installed it by default
[23:56] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: Try running just "grub-install" with no other arguments and pastebin the output.
[23:57] <otterpawOnLaptop> from root@ubuntu:?
[23:57] <bolosaur>  <TJ-> bolosaur: This one I just bought on ebay, it was trying to melt the GPU ... I opened it up, there was a 1cm thick mat of fluff between the fan and the radiator outlets! I removed the heatsink too, replaced the thermal compound, and its happy as anything now
[23:57] <bolosaur> thats cool haha
[23:57] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: Yes.
[23:57] <bolosaur> i hope mine hasnt melted :P
[23:58] <bolosaur> by the way, what specifically do you want me to do here regarding the wifi? because i cant see anything relevant anywhere
[23:58] <otterpawOnLaptop> Jordan_U: Installation finished. No error reported.
[23:58] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: OK, the problem is that you have grub-efi installed rather than grub-pc. grub-efi never changes the MBR (and simply ignores a device argument if you pass it one).
[23:58] <TJ-> bolosaur: Do you see on the "Wireless" tab that option "Band" ?
[23:58] <bolosaur> ooooooh wait
[23:58] <bolosaur> i see it now
[23:58] <bolosaur> yeah i totally missed the "band" entry
[23:58] <bolosaur> which one should i pick?
[23:58] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: apt-get install grub-pc
[23:58] <bolosaur> 5 or 2,4?
[23:58] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: And please post the output.