[10:18] <BoshiG3> Also though I'm having trouble with Envy
[10:18] <adamonline45> BoshiG3: No problem!
[10:19] <Vuen> hey guys, what bash command will print the current folder?
[10:19] <adamonline45> Ahh, I wish I could help you, I don't even know what it does =)
[10:19] <pabix> Vuen ls
[10:19] <adamonline45> !envy | adamonline45
[10:19] <ubotu> adamonline45: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[10:19] <BoshiG3> Installs graphics drivers
[10:19] <Vuen> pabix: that just prints the contents of the current folder. i want it to print out the location
[10:19] <pabix> Vuen pwd ?
[10:19] <Vuen> pabix: like if i run it in ~, i want it to output "/home/nick"
[10:19] <adamonline45> Vuew pwd
[10:19] <Vuen> pabix: perfect thanks
[10:20] <BoshiG3> Well, it is saying I don't have a few packages
[10:20] <BoshiG3> and I figured it was because the repositories
[10:20] <pabix> Vuen or echo $PWD
[10:20] <BoshiG3> ?
[10:21] <adamonline45> BoshiG3: You may be thinking about 'dependancies'?
[10:22] <pabix> So, should anybody have a clue how to install the CJK packages on texlive-full (edgy)?
[10:22] <CheshireViking> BoshiG3: how are you trying to install Envy? is it through Synaptic? I installed using synaptic, I'd already ticked the boxes to add a couple of extra repositories and it installed without problem
[10:22] <cbx33> is ntfs write support stable yet in edgy?
[10:23] <adamonline45> Yeah, I haven't had much problem with dependancies using apt-get, since I added the other official respositories
[10:23] <adamonline45> ... and one or two others, too, I think...
[10:26] <adamonline45> So, anyone got any suggestions for an easy-to-use text editor, for non-gui server install?
[10:26] <adamonline45> vi's just not my style...
[10:26] <kraut> adamonline45: vim ;)
[10:27] <adamonline45> kraut: Is that easier to use?  Like, more intuitive?
[10:27] <HymnToLife> adamonline45, no, it's justa vi with more functionnality
[10:27] <kraut> adamonline45: don't know what do you mean with intuitive, but the hotkeys are really cool if you understood them
[10:27] <kraut> also you have syntax highlighting
[10:28] <HymnToLife> for an intuitive text editor, use nano
[10:28] <bokey> adamonline45, use nano
[10:28] <CheshireViking> BoshiG3: I was only using the official repositories, but sadly, I'm not on an Ubuntu machine to be able to say which ones I'd added, but from memory, it was just the universe & multiverse I've got added as extras
[10:28] <aldin> echo "syntax on" > ~/.vimrc
[10:28] <adamonline45> HymnToLife: Cool, thank you! Do you know if that comes with dapper server?
[10:29] <adamonline45> others, too, thanks for the answers
[10:29] <pabix> adamonline45 yes
[10:29] <HymnToLife> yes it does
[10:29] <BoshiG3> I still don't know how to do it lol
[10:29] <adamonline45> cooooool!
[10:29] <pabix> adamonline45 default editors with all Ubuntu distribs are nano&vi
[10:29] <HymnToLife> pabix, not al of them have nano
[10:29] <BoshiG3> I can't figure out whether to use the ati.com drivers, or some ubuntu drivers, but I can't figure out how to do the ati drivers
[10:30] <HymnToLife> at my school, they run mostly Mandrake and Fedora boxes, no nano
[10:30] <rofl> gentoo has nano by default-- no vi
[10:30] <aldin> on edgy sudo apt-get install vim
[10:30] <BoshiG3> what's vim?
[10:30] <pabix> HymnToLife Ubuntu
[10:30] <HymnToLife> !vim
[10:30] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[10:31] <aldin> vi improoved
[10:31] <BoshiG3> oh
[10:31] <aldin> man vim
[10:31] <BoshiG3> I know what Vim is, I was thinking gvim or something
[10:31] <BoshiG3> I forgot lol
[10:31] <BoshiG3> Brain went stupid
[10:31] <adamonline45> BoshiG3: I don't think ATI has linux drivers on their website... Or are they there, just closed source?  Hah, wrong convo to involve myself in =D
[10:31] <kingrayray> guys i'm having glx issues.. http://pastebin.ca/326706
[10:31] <rofl> Ati does have drivers: fglrx
[10:31] <BoshiG3> admonline45: they have them, just not as good as the others
[10:31] <aldin> adamonline45: ati gives drivers (proprietary)
[10:31] <BoshiG3> it sucks, I can't figure out how to do the Open ones
[10:32] <adamonline45> gotcha
[10:32] <aldin> u can find them on ati.com
[10:32] <rofl> http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
[10:32] <rofl> they have x86 linux and x86_64
[10:32] <BoshiG3> that's not the same though I thought, they're proprietary and crappy?
[10:32] <aldin> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:33] <HymnToLife> BoshiG3, yep, unllike nvidia's who are proprietary but definitely not crappy
[10:34] <aldin> ati's fine now at least for me (not good as nvidia but still)
[10:34] <BoshiG3> Well, I have a 32 bit, with a Radeon 9000. I just downloaded the driver, with aldin's line
[10:34] <BoshiG3> but what do I do after that?
[10:35] <aldin> BoshiG3: now add
[10:35] <incorrect> do most people maintain the own backports for dapper?
[10:35] <BoshiG3> add?
[10:35] <aldin> BoshiG3: just sec
[10:35] <BoshiG3> k
[10:36] <adamonline45> !backport | adamonline45
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <brice> Hello
[10:37] <rofl> hello
[10:38] <YoshiG3> whatsup
[10:38] <brice> I search but don't find networkmanager-openvnc for ubuntu do you know where i can find it please?
[10:38] <brice> i try to connect my ubuntu to an ipcop vpn
[10:38] <aldin> YoshiG3: check this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2729/
[10:38] <isofunk> hello
[10:38] <cokeslut> sup?
[10:38] <aldin> YoshiG3: and let me know
[10:38] <dromer> can anyone help with X-forwarding using putty and Xming? I'm not sure what to do
[10:39] <rofl> I would just use cygwin
[10:40] <YoshiG3> Yeah thanks for that aldin, but I mean I just got done typing "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" and I let it run, and what do I do now?
[10:41] <aldin> YoshiG3: read this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2729/
[10:41] <YoshiG3> I did
[10:41] <dromer> rofl: I have Xming installed on a usb-drive, cygwin is too big I think
[10:41] <rofl> well
[10:41] <oxygen> how can i upgrade firefox
[10:41] <YoshiG3> Did it automatically install the correct driver for my system aldin?
[10:41] <isofunk> ??
[10:41] <oxygen> i am use firefox<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:42] <oxygen> i want to upgrade my firefox
[10:42] <rofl> Im not sure about that-- I've never use Xming.  I just use Cygwin with ssh and X windows installed.  It shouldnt be THAT big.
[10:42] <kingrayray> guys i'm having glx issues.. http://pastebin.ca/326706 anybody know where to start?
[10:43] <adamonline45> Anybody have an idea why a brand new ubuntu-server install would hang at the first boot?  It says "GRUB _"
[10:44] <aldin> YoshiG3: did u follow all the commands
[10:45] <telefono> hi to all
[10:45] <adamonline45> hi
[10:45] <rofl> hi
[10:45] <dromer> rofl: I've installed it before on a windows pc, and it was definatly bigger than the ~14mb Xming takes (and another ~500kb for putty ofcourse)
[10:45] <rofl> well
[10:45] <rofl> you wouldn't need putty
[10:46] <telefono> I have a problem after upgraded to edgy whit ATI X1400
[10:46] <rofl> but that wouldnt make much of a difference
[10:47] <rofl> dromer: you may want to see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225898
[10:48] <YoshiG3> aldin, sorry about that, I just did all those commands. It's rebooting now
[10:48] <THJ> ubuntu configured my SiS 760GX on-board chipset (laptop) as "vesa" in xorg.conf. i attempted changing it to "sis" since the driver
[10:48] <THJ> driver's documentation reports supporting it.
[10:48] <THJ> only problem is, it only works for about 5 seconds, and then my screen freezes completely.
[10:49] <THJ> the vesa driver was working fine except for being very slow, which is why i attempted switching. any suggestions on what could be wrong?
[10:50] <YoshiG3> aldin: my screen just went black, and it's not coming back
[10:50] <YoshiG3> After the restart
[10:50] <aldin> YoshiG3: ?
[10:50] <THJ> i did some google searching on it but it didn't turn up anything :|
[10:51] <dromer> rofl: thnx
[10:51] <rofl> dromer: np
[10:51] <THJ> so i'm asking here as a last resort
[10:51] <aldin> YoshiG3: what exactly u did
[10:51] <YoshiG3> aldin: everything in that pastebin
[10:51] <aldin> do u have ati card
[10:52] <YoshiG3> yes
[10:52] <aldin> haow do u chat now
[10:52] <whyme> !binfmt
[10:52] <YoshiG3> On a windows computer righ tnext to it
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about binfmt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <YoshiG3> It's loading ubuntu right now, I restarted it again
[10:53] <aldin> YoshiG3: ok,
[10:53] <YoshiG3> Then nothing after that
[10:53] <YoshiG3> not even a console
[10:53] <THJ> hm, ok, my chipset's too obscure, lol. i'll try some more troubleshooting on my own. bye!
[10:53] <aldin> YoshiG3: is it freezed can yu turn on/off capslock numlock
[10:54] <YoshiG3> can't tell, wireless keyboard lol
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[10:54] <YoshiG3> I'm trying to get into bios, I think it might be trying to use an integrated card, because my monitor turns off
[10:54] <aldin> YoshiG3: which ati card u have
[10:55] <YoshiG3> But, I can't get into BIOS for some reason
[10:55] <aDN|j0n3> hi from spain! i have recently installed 6.10 edgy in a dell inspiron 9400 with a 7900gs. Latest nvidia drivers make gnome to crash and i don't know where to search or what to do. Thounsads forums read but no way... Any help? Thank you very much!
[10:55] <YoshiG3> Radeon 9000
[10:55] <aldin> maybe that card isnt supported by the proprietary ati drivers
[10:55] <aldin> only opensource
[10:55] <YoshiG3> well, how do I install then?
[10:55] <SS2> where should I place my own build kernel module?
[10:56] <YoshiG3> How do I get into bios, just wanna make sure I'm not pressing the wrong buttons
[10:56] <aldin> just write radeon in /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[10:56] <Edulix> hello world!!
[10:56] <YoshiG3> how will that install it?
[10:56] <Edulix> which ubuntu software could I use to multiply matrixes?
[10:56] <aldin> YoshiG3: delete button or F2 button
[10:56] <YoshiG3> And, I can't even get to console
[10:56] <Edulix> a math program
[10:56] <Edulix> which one?
[10:56] <YoshiG3> still won't go for some reason
[10:57] <YoshiG3> It's showing a "Select Boot Device"
[10:57] <aldin> YoshiG3: ?
[10:57] <aldin> YoshiG3: can u select some
[10:57] <YoshiG3> yeah weird huh
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[10:58] <EnsignRedshirt> Edulix: octave or scilab
[10:58] <aldin> YoshiG3: do u have live cd ubuntu
[10:58] <HymnToLife> !ops
[10:58] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[10:58] <YoshiG3> yeah
[10:58] <gnomefreak> HymnToLife: ?
[10:58] <elkbuntu> HymnToLife, on it. he left too quick
[10:58] <HymnToLife> we have some spamming here
[10:58] <Madpilot> HymnToLife, already gone
[10:58] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, freeizgood spammage
[10:58] <HymnToLife> oh yeah, sorry :p
[10:58] <aldin> could u tryit on tha "blank"machine
[10:58] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: i saw ty
[10:58] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, wrong person...
[10:59] <gnomefreak> crap
[10:59] <YoshiG3> aldin: Yeah, ubuntu loads and the monitor turns off
[10:59] <aldin> great
[10:59] <aldin> leti it go
[10:59] <YoshiG3> not with the cd
[10:59] <YoshiG3> I havn't tried the live cd yet
[10:59] <aldin> YoshiG3: ?
[10:59] <YoshiG3> But, I still can't get into bios
[10:59] <YoshiG3> It's weird
[10:59] <aldin> how come ubuntu goes now
[10:59] <YoshiG3> I'm gonna try with the cd
[11:00] <aldin> YoshiG3: just sec
[11:00] <aldin> YoshiG3: we go on private ok
[11:00] <YoshiG3> it doesn't load now, it goes through the "loading" screen, not nautilus and all that
[11:00] <asfalt> my microphone isn't working (baulk) tried to use skype test call , it is plugged in the same port as when i dual boot to windows where it works , just when i thought all sound worked here, where can i troubleshoot? in alsamixer my mic is like red there is no bar to adjust volume
[11:00] <YoshiG3> hah, it was delete
[11:00] <YoshiG3> my dumbness >.<
[11:00] <aldin> YoshiG3: ?
[11:01] <sandro__> hi
[11:01] <rofl> hi
[11:01] <sandro__> how could i chance the layout keyboard to the italian
[11:01] <rofl> edit your xorg
[11:01] <pabix> sandro__ System>Preferences>Keyboard
[11:01] <aldin> sandro__:  setxkbmap it
[11:01] <rofl> or that
[11:01] <rofl> :)
[11:01] <oFF-beAt> asfalt, tru skype sound settings for the used sound device
[11:01] <oFF-beAt> *try
[11:01] <aldin> sais it working
[11:01] <sandro__> by shell
[11:02] <sandro__> and by restart it keeps
[11:02] <asfalt> oFF-beAt i turned off skype and thought i would at least do the testing where i can turn up the mike and hear self/feedback in speakers
[11:02] <asfalt> i might try that though
[11:02] <asfalt> but i figured it has to work outside of skype
[11:02] <asfalt> before skype can use it
[11:03] <pabix> sandro__ put a xkbmap into your .xsession
[11:03] <aldin> sandro__: do u have kde or know started now
[11:03] <sandro__> hmm
[11:03] <sandro__> don't aunderstand
[11:03] <sandro__> what is xbmap
[11:03] <sandro__> i have installa ubuntu server
[11:03] <sandro__> it it come with english keyboard, i want the italian one
[11:04] <beniamino> how can i reconfigure /dev/dsp to point to my USB headset (which is currently /dev/dsp1)?
[11:04] <joekilner> Hi. quick sanity check here - Is there a problem with the signature on the backports update server (apt-get upgrade returns an error)?
[11:05] <asfalt> joekilner i received a lot of errors earlier from .au mirrors
[11:05] <asfalt> not sure if related or whatnot just mentioning
[11:05] <joekilner> asfalt - cheers
[11:05] <Spee_Der> I got errors also, but just re-issued the command a few times and cleared and did its job.
[11:06] <asfalt> likewise, it seems there were connection problems
[11:06] <Spee_Der> Errors also with apt-get update, but did same thing, sent two or three times and voila, no problem.
[11:06] <asfalt> what i would like now is for my mike to work
[11:07] <asfalt> without doing anything extravagant but i think i checked every setting already
[11:07] <joekilner> Hmmm.... Not the same then. This is telling me that something on the backport servers is not signed correctly and it comes up every time.
[11:07] <asfalt> hmm
[11:07] <asfalt> update/reinstate the key?
[11:07] <joekilner> Might try not using the gb mirrors and see if that works
[11:07] <asfalt> and if it still says that you know it's the other end
[11:07] <sandro__> hi man
[11:08] <joekilner> asfalt - yeah I'll try that too. thanks.
[11:08] <sandro__> how could i do it, please is something important
[11:08] <Jowi> !it | sandro__ maybe you can get better help here
[11:08] <ubotu> sandro__ maybe you can get better help here: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:08] <oFF-beAt> asfalt, tools>options>sound devices> switch between OSS n ALSA n check
[11:09] <Viglen> hey
[11:09] <Viglen> anyone around
[11:09] <Viglen> my bootloader is corrupted
[11:10] <Viglen> i was advised to run sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub from the terminal in the live cd
[11:10] <Viglen>  i did so, now when i try to boot, gives me ntdlr missing
[11:10] <Viglen> then boots into windows
[11:13] <asfalt> viglen is your bios selecting which drive boots 1st?
[11:13] <adamonline45> Hah, I'm having grub issues too... =/  is it true that GRUB, being a bootloader, doesn't get replaced during a reformat?
[11:13] <adamonline45> er, wiped*?
[11:13] <asfalt> depends how you "reformat"
[11:13] <bill> hello
[11:14] <asfalt> if you are just removing/adding partitions then the mbr will not get touched unless you specify in fdisk
[11:14] <Iphigenia> Hi! #Xubuntu is alseep so can I ask a quick question here:  I have just upgraded to Xubuntu Edgy. Great success but 3 packages have been held back. See: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2731/ . Any ideas?
[11:14] <adamonline45> asfalt: hmmm... Do you happen to know if netBSD uses GRUB?  If so, that would explain a lot... I basically installed ubuntu over an old bsd install that never materialised
[11:15] <Jowi> adamonline45, if installed on the MBR it will not be wiped. The MBR is always overwritten. If you install windows it will overwrite the MBR with a bootloader for windows. if you install Linux it will be overwritten with GRUB. if you installed GRUB on a bootpartition then formatting that partition gets rid of it.
[11:15] <asfalt> that's very well summarised
[11:15] <johns^> windows 2000 leaves grub untouched, even when formatting
[11:16] <johns^> formatting 'C:' doesn't get rid of a grub or lilo bootloader
[11:16] <asfalt> but this is all variable depending on your disk/partition arrangement
[11:16] <cntb> kxkb is on dapper what is on edgy ?/help
[11:16] <SzArAk> johns^: but win2k installer does overwrites grub
[11:17] <johns^> SzArAk: I have never seen that happen
[11:17] <asfalt> cntb no idea but try google/sudo apt-cache search kxkb
[11:17] <adamonline45> Jowi: wait, if installed on the MBR it will not be wiped, but the next line says the MBR is always overwritten?  Do you mean that if I simply reformat a HD, it won't be erased, but if I install a new OS, it will be... ?
[11:17] <asfalt> or which kxkb
[11:17] <NthDegree> johns^, it overwrites during the unconditional format during the install process
[11:17] <SzArAk> johns^: i've been using it for quite long time and always had to restore linux bootloader
[11:17] <Jowi> adamonline45, that is correct.
[11:18] <mneptok> johns^: but the end of any Widows install process writes the mbr
[11:18] <cntb> k asfalt tyvm
[11:18] <asfalt> adamonline45 the bootmgr grub can be written to two places, the MBR or the superblock of the drive
[11:18] <Jowi> adamonline45, the MBR is not a part of any partition. so formatting it will not affect it.
[11:18] <asfalt> or it can be written to the 1st 1024 sectors of the boot partition
[11:18] <adamonline45> Jowi: What happens if GRUB was already installed, and I install another OS that uses GRUB?  Will it be changed?  Will some settings not change okay?
[11:18] <mneptok> johns^: the formatting of partitions does not touch the MBR, but the installer definitely does.
[11:19] <asfalt> windows installation will by default write the superblock of the drive, therefore overwriting any other boot managers already there
[11:19] <johns^> mneptok: as I said, I never saw a windows 2000 install that removed grub
[11:19] <Viglen> i only have 1 drive
[11:19] <johns^> XP and 98 and ME wipe the MBR
[11:19] <asfalt> and if you let your windows manage the booting, then it gets cumbersome you have to update the bootsector file from your linux partition where it is installed
[11:19] <Jowi> adamonline45, if you install another os that uses grub and you chose at install time to not re-install grub from that distro then the old grub will still be intact (but will probably not be able to boot your new system if your partition layout and kernel values have changed)
[11:20] <asfalt> if you just google on linux and dual boot it will explain a lot better then i am
[11:20] <Viglen> nope
[11:20] <Viglen> not working
[11:20] <Viglen> lol
[11:20] <Viglen> look
[11:20] <Viglen> i had linux on a hd
[11:20] <Viglen> fresh install
[11:20] <Viglen> nothing else
[11:20] <Viglen> then i installed windows from a cd
[11:20] <Viglen> removed the bootloader
[11:20] <asfalt> Viglen so the drive had unused space?
[11:20] <Viglen> now i have them both installed
[11:20] <Viglen> yeah
[11:21] <Viglen> but only windows in the boot
[11:21] <Wild_Cat> what program do you guys use to erase DVD-RW discs?
[11:21] <mneptok> !enter | Viglen
[11:21] <ubotu> Viglen: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:21] <asfalt> so Viglen did your replace ntloader with grub
[11:21] <Viglen> okay :)
[11:21] <Jowi> adamonline45, for example, you can install ubuntu on partition 1 and have its grub. then you install slackware on partition 2 but do not install grub from its CD. instead you tell the grub that you use with ubuntu to boot slackware for you.
[11:22] <Viglen> so?
[11:22] <adamonline45> Jowi: Okay, I think that's my problem then...  I didn't get to choose though! =O  hehheh...  Do you happen to know if netBSD uses GRUB? That's what used to be on the hard drive in question...
[11:22] <OrT> Anyone a suggestion how to forward ports locally (let another port forward to default ssh)?
[11:22] <neocortex> hello, is anyone willing to help a newbie with crashes of evolution?
[11:22] <Jowi> adamonline45, if you *do* install grub on that second linux installation then you must alter it in order for it to be able to boot your fist linux installation.
[11:22] <Viglen> okay, anythink?
[11:22] <asfalt> adamonline45 why don't you wipe the partition and start afresh that way you know there is no boot manager installed in it
[11:23] <Viglen> thing*
[11:23] <gb_> hiya
[11:23] <Jowi> adamonline45, which OS can you boot with grub now?
[11:23] <gb_> gnomefreak: hiya
[11:23] <adamonline45> Jowi: None, it just hangs at "grub" with a blinking cursor
[11:23] <gnomefreak> hi
[11:23] <tbf> how do I get git-svn (not git-svnimport) for edgy?
[11:23] <asfalt> netbsd may use lilo?
[11:24] <asfalt> nfi, either way you can replace it either way
[11:24] <adamonline45> Jowi: I was hoping that my install would eliminate any traces or netbsd...
[11:24] <Viglen> mneptok, help?
[11:24] <gb_> asfalt: does'nt bsd have its own boot loader?
[11:24] <adamonline45> asfalt: that answers one of my earlier Qs ty =)
[11:24] <joekilner> for those I was talking to earlier: sorted the problem - tidied up my sources file and made them all point to gb.archive.ubuntu.com instead of archive.ubuntu.com, so it looks like something has gone wrong on the server (or they fixed it while I was editing my sources list!) either way, it's OK now.
[11:24] <Kyl1> Aha!
[11:25] <gb_> tbf:  chk packages.ubuntu.com
[11:25] <asfalt> adamonline45 lilo is another boot manager it likewise can be installed either to the drive or beginning of a boot partition
[11:25] <Kyl1> So, I heard some rumors of it being possible to install Windows programs on a linux machine. This true?
[11:25] <asfalt> grub is superior imo
[11:25] <gb_> Kyl1: yes
[11:25] <adamonline45> !wine | Kyl1
[11:25] <ubotu> Kyl1: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:25] <asfalt> but lilo works fine just the same
[11:25] <Kyl1> Right.
[11:25] <tbf> gb_: well, there is git-svn 1.4.1, but I'd need git-svn 1.4.4
[11:25] <adamonline45> Kyl1: there are others, tho, too, iirc
[11:26] <Kyl1> Where would you install it though?
[11:26] <Jowi> !grub | adamonline45, read this (1.2 should work if not go with 3.2 (manual configuration of grub))
[11:26] <ubotu> adamonline45, read this (1.2 should work if not go with 3.2 (manual configuration of grub)): grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:26] <Kyl1> Because Of course, windows uses the whole C:\ format
[11:26] <gb_> Kyl1:  umm, on linux :)
[11:26] <adamonline45> asfalt: alright, thanks
[11:26] <Kyl1> Whilst, linux uses,  just the / format
[11:26] <Kyl1> Right?
[11:26] <gb_> tbf:  chk the site, look for the packages under egdy
[11:27] <EnsignRedshirt> Kyl1: wine takes care of that.
[11:27] <Kyl1> Hmph
[11:27] <Kyl1> I oughta try then...
[11:27] <Kyl1> Anyone ever played Delta Force 2?
[11:27] <gb_> Kyl1:  right / is called the root partition
[11:27] <EnsignRedshirt> Kyl1: But don't be too optimistic about wine.  Some programs work fine, but many others don't.
[11:28] <gb_> yes i have played delta force
[11:28] <Kyl1> :D
[11:28] <Kyl1> Delta force rules.
[11:28] <Kyl1> Alright, that's all I was wonderin'. Sorry to waste space on jibberish.
[11:28] <adamonline45> Jowi: Alright, i've loaded ubotu's link, I'll read it come morning.  I'm tired! hehheh...  Thanks for your help.  Do you think if that's where it's hanging, that a manual poking around in the grub confs, etc, could solve something?
[11:28] <tbf> gb_: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=git-svn
[11:28] <tbf> gb_: yields nothing new
[11:29] <joekilner> And is it possible that viglen has got grub in the MBS but removed the grub stuff of his harddrive? the command you ran off the install CD would reinstall the MBS but would not add stuff to your harddrive - you need to mount your HD and then run dpkg -install --root /mnt/myHD or something a bit like that...
[11:29] <adamonline45> Jowi: Oh well, I'm passing out =)  Good night everyone! thanks!
[11:30] <gb_> yep see 1.4.1 there
[11:30] <Kyl1> Night
[11:30] <joekilner> Ah well, he obviously doesn't want to know ;) see you later
[11:30] <Kyl1> mmhmm
[11:30] <Kyl1> Obviously.
[11:30] <Jowi> adamonline45, I think it's a combination of a faulty config and that you also have to re-install grub manually.
[11:30] <Kyl1> Any information that would benefit me?
[11:30] <Jowi> night adamonline45
[11:30] <tbf> gb_: hmmm.... could try to get the source package from feisty and see if I get it build for edgy?
[11:30] <gb_> tbf:  worth a shot
[11:31] <Jowi> adamonline45, that first link ubotu gave you should help alot
[11:31] <adamonline45> Jowi, alright, thanks.  Even though I didn't install Windows? I'll certainly check it out...  Thanks again!
[11:32] <dromer> !xming
[11:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:32] <mustaukko> Seems that you people are busy with MBR's. Can I get illumination over issues with DRI in here?
[11:32] <gb_> gnomefreak:  ty got the usplash thing yesterday :)
[11:34] <Jowi> adamonline45, the procedure is the same
[11:35] <Jowi> !ask | mustaukko
[11:35] <ubotu> mustaukko: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:35] <daviey> Hi, i have a proble.  On reboot fsck found some problems.  I repaired these using fsck.  Now i get an error "Failed to start X server.....".  How can i repair?  Thanx
[11:36] <daviey> anybody!?
[11:37] <Jowi> daviey, what is the error in the log?
[11:37] <daviey> Jowi: give me a min,  i'll have to mount the fs
[11:38] <mustaukko> :) Ok. So, I'm stuck after some update over a week ago. I updated compiz (0.3.6) along side with a lot of stuff, and DRI broke (I suspect xorgserver-core, there was some forum discussion on that). I've tried to get things going again on aixgl (since it's now the current 'plain' installation) but I seem to be unable to.
[11:39] <wolfwalker> Say, this may seem like an odd place to ask a question about Winblows, but I'm having trouble running my Ubuntu cd. See, I have very little ram and Ubuntu needs to write some swap space, but the Winblows files are scattered all over the disk. Is there any way to compact those files to one side of the disk?
[11:39] <mustaukko> My installation uses nvidia, my driver is 9746, which I believe to be the latest.
[11:40] <mustaukko> according to glxinfo I do not have dri, but it shows nvidia as the client renderer in the vendor strings. server vendor is sgi.
[11:40] <pwuertz_> c++
[11:40] <daviey> Jowi: tail of Xorg.0.log "failed to initialize core devices"
[11:40] <gnomefreak> wolfwalker: you should defrag before installing ubuntu
[11:40] <Jowi> daviey, which core device?
[11:40] <caci> mustaukko: the nvidia binary driver does not do DRI
[11:41] <daviey> "Error opening /dev/wacom : No such file or directory@
[11:41] <daviey> "No core pointer"
[11:41] <Jowi> daviey, do you have a wacom board (virtual sketchpad)?
[11:41] <daviey> Jowi: no
[11:42] <Jowi> daviey, seems like you're missing some drivers.
[11:42] <daviey> Jowi: fsck did 'repair' alot!
[11:42] <SHRIKEE> http://digg.com/tech_news/The_mysterious_shrinking_Google_Pagerank
[11:43] <wolfwalker> |gnomefreak:| I did defrag, but it only defragged the files that were fragmented. It flat refuses to get them all on one side of the disk.
[11:43] <tk__> Hello
[11:43] <Jowi> daviey, so you are using xserver-xorg or xserver-xorg-air-core now?
[11:43] <Ha1> Hello guys
[11:43] <daviey> Jowi: currently i'm in livecd with the rootfs mounted.
[11:43] <wolfwalker> |gnomefreak:| Mind you, I was using the Winblows defragger. Is there a better one?
[11:43] <Ha1> I am having a bit of a graphics issue. All of my games run slowly. I tried OpenArena,. and its laggy. Even SuperTux is slow.
[11:43] <daviey> Jowi: i believe straight xserver-xorg
[11:43] <Ha1> I think Iam using a dodgy renderer
[11:43] <gnomefreak> no that is the one to use
[11:44] <Ha1> Because when I activated it using the console, it gave me an odd error message
[11:44] <wolfwalker> Then how do I get it to shift all the files to one side of the disk?
[11:44] <Ha1> About my GL renderer failing or similar
[11:44] <mustaukko> so I'm using also the dri, dbe and glx also. Those I believe to be responsible ones in the xorg.conf. is that correct?
[11:44] <Ha1> Any ideas, guys?
[11:44] <Jowi> daviey, sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg
[11:44] <Ha1> Specifically, how do I get the latest drivers/renderer for my nVidia GeForce 6600
[11:45] <SHRIKEE> !nvidia
[11:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:45] <daviey> Jowi: i'm on the livecd though.  I can't get a terminal through real boot
[11:45] <clever_> which package is /usr/bin/mail in?
[11:45] <CheshireViking> wolfwalker: this may help, i'm in the same position as you, having to defrag and consolidate freespace, i download a application called "perfect disk 8" that did that - it defragged and can also be set to move everything to the start of the drive
[11:45] <SHRIKEE> !mail
[11:45] <ubotu> mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[11:45] <Ha1> Thanks SHRIKEEE
[11:45] <SHRIKEE> hm
[11:45] <wolfwalker> :) Thanks
[11:46] <Jowi> daviey, you should be able to boot into console since you get as far as to get xorg failures
[11:46] <clever_> SHRIKEE: i have the text based mail reader on an older ubuntu install but its missing on my new install
[11:46] <caci> mustaukko: please put a name in front of your messages otherwise nobody will know who you're talking to :-)
[11:46] <wolfwalker> Wait, did he say he's running off the live cd? Can you run off the cd and still use the internet?
[11:46] <caci> wolfwalker: why not?
[11:46] <clever_> wolfwalker: ive ran off the livecd and built my own wifi card drivers
[11:46] <mustaukko> caci: Well I was more like refererring the whole room.. But yeah, sure.
[11:47] <daviey> Jowi: How?  Ctrl+Alt+F3 won't do anything.  The whole machine is crashed.  How can i get interupt the boot?
[11:47] <mustaukko> caci: So, what would you suggest I try next?
[11:47] <wolfwalker> Neato
[11:47] <CheshireViking> wolfwalker: i've done the defrag & compact to consolidate the free space, but i haven't repartitioned the drive yet, so i don't know if there's any problems that might come from that
[11:47] <Ha1> Ok, now, trying to the the latest NVidia drivers
[11:47] <tk__> Hello, I have a Problem with the new xfce4 and samba shares . can anyone tell me wich good smb client i can get for xfce4 ? i have installed smbclient and xffm-samba but when i connect to a remoteshare i can only listen the remote directory ... copy from or to it is not possible...also drag&drop is not possible ?
[11:47] <caci> mustaukko: try stating the problem... what does not work
[11:47] <Jowi> daviey, boot into rescue/recovery mode
[11:47] <Ha1> How do I know if my computer has hardware accelerated 3D support??
[11:47] <wolfwalker> Forget repartitioning, as soon as I get the Ubuntu cd running I'll use GParted
[11:47] <caci> mustaukko: compiz?
[11:47] <wolfwalker> I LIKE that partitioner!
[11:48] <Jowi> daviey, you should have that option in the boot menu
[11:48] <mustaukko> caci: Compiz. That's the thing that bugs me, but I think my setup is wrong so that my 3d card features don't get to it.
[11:48] <clever_> j #debian
[11:48] <clever_> ops
[11:48] <wolfwalker> Forget perfectdisk 8, it's payware
[11:48] <mustaukko> caci: Yeah, I'm getting the white-cube. I've went through the forums and lists, but no help there.
[11:48] <Ha1> How do I know if my computer has hardware accelerated 3D support?? [Trying to get lates nVidia driver]
[11:48] <daviey> Jowi: is that a grub option?
[11:48] <Jowi> yes daviey
[11:49] <daviey> Jowi: thanks
[11:49] <daviey> Jowi: brb
[11:49] <caci> mustaukko: sorry, no idea about compiz :-(  but nvidia installs not supporting DRI is normal
[11:49] <mustaukko> caci: Their problems seem to be different as the fixes have not helped me.
[11:49] <Jowi> daviey, you should have "Ubuntu" and "Ubuntu (rescue)" to chose from
[11:49] <caci> mustaukko: no idea if compiz actually needs DRI, i suppose not
[11:49] <mustaukko> caci: what about the glxgears? should that not be blazing?
[11:49] <CheshireViking> wolfwalker: i know, but there's a 30 day trial thats free, i was only using it for a one off so after the 30 days are up, i'll be deleting it anyway
[11:49] <caci> mustaukko: it should
[11:49] <mustaukko> caci: I'm not getting acceleration, that's the problem.
[11:50] <aldi1> YoshiG3:
[11:50] <mustaukko> caci: and (yeah, it should) it seems that what ever my card supports as acceleration is not being used at all.
[11:50] <webmad> register
[11:51] <aldi1> YoshiG3: are u here
[11:51] <caci> mustaukko: the "nvidia" driver in X.org and nvidias copyrights in the glxinfo strings and still no accell=
[11:51] <caci> ?
[11:51] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: get your modem to work?
[11:51] <mustaukko> caci: so.. I've never received an error like this. Have you heard of anything similar?
[11:52] <mustaukko> caci: glxinfo |grep vendor gives me
[11:52] <mustaukko> server glx vendor string: SGI
[11:52] <mustaukko> client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[11:52] <mustaukko> OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[11:52] <mick666> www.freepenguin.135.it
[11:52] <mustaukko> caci: and in xorg.conf, in the device I'm using I've got nvidia as the driver, not the opensource-nv
[11:53] <caci> mustaukko: and your glxgears don't compare to that what the card should be able to do
[11:53] <Jowi> mustaukko, you have a Section "DRI" in xorg.conf?
[11:53] <mustaukko> caci: I'm using 24 bitdepth and all that...
[11:53] <caci> mustaukko: stuff like gl screensavers is sluggish?
[11:53] <olof> is it possible to change between my normal speakers and my usb-headset speakers while some application is using the soundcard? (using ubuntu, gnome)
[11:54] <mustaukko> caci: Well yeah, I tried the dri with aixgl, as it was stated in the wiki, but I've tried it without as was stated in compiz...
[11:54] <mustaukko> caci: yeah those are sluggish.
[11:54] <chrissturm> will there be official backports of apache 2.2? or is there a place to request a backport?
[11:54] <caci> mustaukko: ok that's odd. i'm not aware of softwre rendering in the nvidia GL lib
[11:54] <mustaukko> caci: I'm not getting the good'ol fps from glxgears, so I can not say exactly, but when i resize it take seconds for it to draw.
[11:54] <wolfwalker> Thank you folks
[11:55] <AlexC_> sorry, not really Ubuntu related - but does Fedora have an irc channel??
[11:55] <mustaukko> caci: could it be something like different version of kernel and glx packages?
[11:55] <AlexC_> nevermind, I found out - you have to identify to join :P
[11:55] <caci> mustaukko: nvidia-glx and kernel module versions match?
[11:56] <mustaukko> caci: is there a simple way of finding that out... I'll run some apt-cache policies, that should clear it out right?
[11:56] <caci> mustaukko: in my experience, a version mismatch bombs out earlier, X won't even come up
[11:56] <caci> mustaukko: you got the plain drivers from edgy?
[11:57] <mustaukko> caci:  *** 1.0.9746+<IP_ADDRESS>-1 0 installed for both of them
[11:57] <YoshiG3> aldi1 hey
[11:57] <aldi1> YoshiG3: got ya on private
[11:57] <mustaukko> caci: no. Not at the moment. I've tried a lot of things. lastly envy, to get things working.
[11:58] <mustaukko> caci: it seems that official version drags in 8776
[11:58] <mustaukko> caci: that's a long way
[11:58] <mustaukko> caci: do you think that that'd be the problem?
[11:58] <robbo> Hello,can you help me how can i play game NEXUIZ online?...
[11:59] <mustaukko> caci: so I should remove nvidia 9746 and install the older one? ... I think these beta drivers were put out for a reason
[11:59] <mustaukko> caci: but then... there is a reason why they are beta. :)
[12:00] <olof> is it possible to change sound output device from my speakers to my usb headset while the soundcard is in use?
[12:00] <daviey> Jowi: i'm back.  Seems i cannot even do that, as the driver for the keyboard doesn't get loaded!!
[12:01] <yrjo> olof:why not?
[12:02] <WebDesigner> hi
[12:02] <WebDesigner> i got problem with my ubuntu 6.10 in amd64
[12:02] <nysosym> what do u think about these concept
[12:02] <nysosym> http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newfilecopydialog7rv.png
[12:02] <WebDesigner> seems the php5-cli + openssl (bugs?) didnt working and make the infinite loop
[12:02] <olof> yrjo: i don't know how. the only way i know is to change in asoundrc file but that isn't reloaded untill my applications are restarted
[12:03] <WebDesigner> has anyone got experiences with this problem?
[12:03] <yrjo> you can restart alsa
[12:03] <Jowi> daviey, that's seriously messed up (that HDD must have fallen from the 7th floor or something). I would recommend a re-install.
[12:03] <FelipeBare> nysosym, it's good.
[12:04] <daviey> Jowi: not 7th floor.. Try the MRS unplugging it without shutting down
[12:04] <yrjo> i would reconfigure .asoundrc too for that
[12:04] <kaptengu> how to I configure mysql to accept connections from outside?
[12:04] <WebDesigner> anyone with ubuntu 6.10 in amd64 machine?
[12:04] <nysosym> Felipe any additions ?
[12:04] <Jowi> daviey, ouch. hope you have /home on a seperate (working) partition
[12:04] <sleeping> this nick sucks
[12:04] <daviey> Jowi: nope
[12:05] <yrjo> or use alsaconf
[12:05] <Loevborg> What's the official way to configure compiz? (I'm using feisty's desktop-effects)
[12:05] <MonkeyINAbaG> especially if you have a lil alarm go off when someone says your nick
[12:05] <FelipeBare> nysosym, I don't think so. It's simple and beatiful. :)
[12:05] <WebDesigner> :(
[12:05] <daviey> Loevborg: why use compiz and not beryl?
[12:05] <MonkeyINAbaG> its amazing how many people say 'sleeping'
[12:06] <conic> is beryl better ?
[12:06] <conic> ive never tried compiz
[12:06] <Jowi> daviey, well, If I were you I would reinstall the full system. 6-8GB for / and a separate /home. you might be able to save some personal stuff if you mount it from the live-cd and burn it to a CDRW or something.
[12:06] <sikumkum> has anyone experiencing the php-cli bug with amd64?
[12:06] <abcv> hola
[12:06] <Loevborg> daviey: it's supported, works out of the box in feisty
[12:06] <caci> mustaukko: sorry was away
[12:07] <olof> yrjo: tried (with /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart), but my .asoundrc didn't reload
[12:07] <mustaukko> caci: np.
[12:07] <yrjo> hmm
[12:08] <sikumkum> anyone with ubuntu 6.10 edgy in amd64 machine?
[12:09] <yrjo> have you tried alsaconf?
[12:09] <mustaukko> caci: so do you need a recap or does scrolling suffice? :)
[12:09] <yrjo> that restarts alsa
[12:10] <caci> recap please :-)
[12:10] <daviey> Jowi: i'm repartitioning the disk to make a seperate /home
[12:10] <caci> mustaukko: where did you get that updated driver from
[12:10] <sikumkum> :(
[12:11] <mustaukko> caci: ok, so I do not have current drivers, I have nvidias latest ones. I used envy to get them.
[12:11] <sikumkum> why one answering my question
[12:11] <olof> yrjo: i'll check it out.
[12:11] <sikumkum> help please
[12:11] <mustaukko> caci: also I've tried alfredomiliones repositories.
[12:11] <mustaukko> caci: but this is after it broke.
[12:12] <caci> is there a reason why you need the most current ones (such as a brand-new accell card)?
[12:12] <mustaukko> caci: no. I just tried to get it fixed.
[12:12] <Gosha> !login
[12:12] <ubotu> login: system login tools. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.16-2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 306 kB, installed size 2776 kB
[12:12] <Gosha> !login screen
[12:13] <mustaukko> caci: no need to have the latest. I'm running 6600, which is not be any means brand new.
[12:13] <YoshiG3> how do I uninstall graphics drivers?
[12:13] <YoshiG3> And has anyone installed ATI drivers with a Radeon 9000 before?
[12:13] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: apt-get remove does the trick, which driver are we talking about?
[12:13] <gebruiker> how do I make rle to pcx?
[12:14] <caci> mustaukko: i'd stick with the offical repos here
[12:14] <YoshiG3> mustaukko: well, when I run glxgears -printfps, it freezes.
[12:14] <caci> mustaukko: or compile my own
[12:14] <mustaukko> caci: so.. I'll try that.
[12:15] <caci> mustaukko: cause the kernel updates a lot in ubuntu
[12:15] <mustaukko> caci: I mean the official ones. I moved from gentoo, to get rid of that compiling thing.
[12:15] <YoshiG3> and ideas?
[12:15] <Wrongway> hey all.... I'm having a little trouble mounting a drive..... anyone available?
[12:15] <caci> mustaukko: :-)
[12:15] <mustaukko> YoshiG3:so.. you ahve which card?
[12:15] <christopherl> hello all, someone know if there are any website providing both email and file storage?
[12:16] <caci> mustaukko: also make sure "nvidia" kernel module actually loads, and carefully read whatever xorg.log says about the kernel module
[12:16] <YoshiG3> mustaukko: Radeon 9000
[12:16] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: and the official pages for help did you no good?
[12:16] <YoshiG3> nope
[12:16] <caci> mustaukko: sorry i can't help you more
[12:17] <caci> mustaukko: good luck
[12:17] <YoshiG3> At first I installed the drivers normally, and it caused xorg to be so messed up, that I had to redo it, my monitor would go into standby mode
[12:17] <mustaukko> caci: I'll be back it does not solve itself. :)
[12:17] <Rookie-1> Wrongway - sudo mount -t filesystem /device /mountpoint
[12:17] <david__> YoshiG3 I have a Radeon R250 (9000 engine) and I'm not using it because it hangs my laptop using suspend / hibernate
[12:17] <xzk> anybody awake ?
[12:18] <Wrongway> Rookie-1 I've had it mounted, and now I'm trying to unmount it following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions#head-a37a1b8aefbfb58f198d678a1d97e70ef26a044c
[12:18] <YoshiG3> well, the computer is still working
[12:18] <Wrongway> but I get an unmount error
[12:18] <YoshiG3> it's just that xorg doesn't load or something really crazy
[12:18] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way
[12:19] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: That website contains all the info, first off.. installing the driver.
[12:19] <Rookie-1> Wrongway to umount just type sudo umount /mointpoint
[12:19] <xzk> I'm trying to burn an ISO image file, but before I do it and waste a CD I want to ask if I can just burn it or do I have to have a cd creator that will let me burn image files... bc Ive run into that problem in winXP before. where burning data and music isnt the same as burning the iso and bin/cue files to a CD
[12:19] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: then configuring it.
[12:19] <beniamino> ubuntu isn't noticing when i plug new devices into the USB ports. is there a way to force it to rescan the USB bus?
[12:19] <YoshiG3> doesn't support Radeon 9000
[12:19] <mustaukko> YoshiG3:  Ok, have you tried the radeon driver?
[12:19] <Wrongway> errr, no. it unmounts, then when I try to remount it using sudo ntfsmount /dev/hdb1 /media/storage -o umask=0007 it gives me an error of:
[12:20] <frogzoo> xzk: if you just right click the iso, you can select burn image, however k3b is the ultimate burning tool
[12:20] <Wrongway> Couldn't mount device '/dev/hdb1': Operation not supported
[12:20] <Wrongway> Windows did not shut down properly.  Try to mount volume in windows, shut down and try again.
[12:20] <Wrongway> Mount failed.
[12:20] <mosh> what is the name of the popular "ps" alternative?
[12:20] <YoshiG3> mustaukko no, not yet
[12:20] <xzk> frogzoo: ty! so in linux it will automatically know to burn it as an image file?
[12:20] <klm-> mosh: Gimp?
[12:20] <frogzoo> xzk: yup
[12:20] <Wrongway> the other drive was used as a spare drive for windows, but I no longer have windows to boot from
[12:21] <xzk> frogzoo: in winXP I have burned ISO files before.. and it didnt work correctly bc I had to have a program that would burn iso files
[12:21] <Rookie-1> Wrongway - forgot the filesystem ? sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/storage (should be enough anyway)
[12:21] <mosh> insted of ps -a there is a more detailed version i forget what it is called
[12:21] <mosh> or ps aux
[12:21] <mosh> it also lists processes
[12:21] <frogzoo> xzk: right click iso - burn image
[12:21] <xzk> frogzoo: where can I find k3b
[12:22] <frogzoo> xzk: repos
[12:22] <Rookie-1> Wrongway - but i dont mount up ntfs, only tempting to write on that one ;) and it will only end up with a mess ;(
[12:22] <Wrongway> I'm not entirely sure, but I think that's the command I used when I originally mounted the drive. the problem I had before is it wouldn't give me write access
[12:22] <david__> mosh: top?
[12:22] <kleinlappies> hello, how does one uninstall xgl? i installed it following the wiki instructions +- 2 months ago.
[12:23] <Rookie-1> Wrongway - you need a thierdparty prog to write to an ntfs partition
[12:23] <oxigen> what to install to monitor cpu temperature on my intel dual? is it possible?
[12:23] <Rookie-1> !ntfs
[12:23] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:23] <Rookie-1> !ntfs-3g
[12:23] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:23] <Gosha> !dekstop
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dekstop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <EnsignRedshirt> mosh: System -> Administration -> System Monitor  ? ;)
[12:23] <Gosha> !desktop
[12:23] <ubotu> The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are Gnome (ubuntu-desktop), KDE (kubuntu-desktop), Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[12:24] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: Well, what do you know.. I found a website containing info on the matter..
[12:24] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: glxgears and fgl_glxgears may hang on radeom 9000
[12:24] <Gosha> where should i put gnome .desktop files?
[12:24] <Rookie-1> !fuse
[12:24] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:24] <frogzoo> hmmm... that so needs beryl added to the list....
[12:24] <Gosha> !gdm
[12:24] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: To correct this issue, download and install the ATI Proprietary Linux Driver 8.10.19 or higher.
[12:24] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 1687 kB, installed size 12300 kB
[12:24] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: so which version do you have?
[12:25] <YoshiG3> mustaukko: well, I downloaded the driver, and it's a .run, and gedit is trying to open it
[12:25] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: It seems that it should be supported.
[12:25] <YoshiG3> it's not running
[12:25] <mustaukko> YoshiG3:  ok, do you know how to use the prompt?
[12:25] <Wrongway> alrighty, I'll check those out. thanks Rookie-1
[12:25] <YoshiG3> explain
[12:25] <EnsignRedshirt> ...speaking of System Monitor, what does "MiB" stand for? There is no i in megabytes...?
[12:25] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: Or right click the file, choose properties
[12:25] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: you have to se the file type to executable.
[12:26] <Rookie-1> Wrongway - if you really need to write between windows and linux, use fat32 instead
[12:26] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: Or better yet, follow these: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way
[12:26] <mosh> david__: ty, top is what i was looking for
[12:26] <aeon17x> How do I format a USB drive in Ubuntu?
[12:26] <YoshiG3> nothing happened when I told it to run
[12:27] <Wrongway> I don't want to partition stuff though
[12:27] <YoshiG3> yeah, that guide is for Radeon 9500+
[12:27] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: ok, let's follow the instructions on the website.
[12:28] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: (II) ATI Radeon/FireGL: The following chipsets are supported:
[12:28] <mustaukko> 	RADEON 9000/9000 PRO (RV250 4966), RADEON 9000 LE
[12:28] <david__> aeon17x: sudo e2fsck /dev/sda1, with sda1 the right (unmounted) device.
[12:29] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: It's worth a try. It won't kill you to try it out.
[12:29] <aeon17x> thanks david__, I'll try that
[12:29] <EnsignRedshirt> Nevermind... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte
[12:29] <olof> yrjo: alsaconf didn't change the output neither. my problem is that i like to change the output device while the sound is playing. but alsa doesn't doesn't seem to want that. i can perfeclty well change it when there is no app using the sound.
[12:29] <david__> aeon17x check that you're not having any scsi or sata drive!
[12:30] <aeon17x> It's just a normal flash drive.
[12:30] <david__> just speaking about your hard drive: it can also be sdaXX
[12:31] <YoshiG3> mustaukko, where is that?
[12:31] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: Where's what?
[12:31] <frennkie> Hello, does anybody know how likely it is that there will be a backport of libc6-xen for Dapper Drake LTS (6.06) (see: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/50331/+viewstatus)
[12:32] <david__> when connecting your usb, open a terminal and type dmesg: you will get the device like  "sda: sda1"
[12:32] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: I'm probably going to leave for a few seconds in a bit.
[12:33] <olof> anyone know how to change the sound output device from my speakers to my usb headset while some program uses the soundcard? (changing the .asoundrc but it won't reload untill i restart the sound programs)
[12:34] <darek> cze
[12:34] <YoshiG3> I'm getting an error running the proprietary driver
[12:34] <YoshiG3> "Bad Substitution"
[12:35] <sikumkum> gawd
[12:36] <Vigo> Source code for the BT router can be read now.
[12:36] <Instabin> Ubuntu is the best os i have ever had. Now if i can figure out how to implement it at work
[12:36] <CodeWarrior_> hello folks
[12:36] <jesusm> #linares
[12:37] <jesusm> como busco un canal...
[12:37] <jesusm> ???
[12:37] <Rookie-1> what language jesusm ?
[12:37] <Vigo> Instabin: I got a die hard wind$ws user on Dapper now,.
[12:37] <jesusm> espaol...
[12:38] <Rookie-1> !es
[12:38] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:38] <Rookie-1> ;)
[12:38] <YoshiG3> Wow, I can't even get the ati installer to run correctly
[12:38] <CodeWarrior_> I have a GPU Voodoo 4 4500 PCI (3dfx), when the ubuntu (dapper) starts it shows me just in 640x480 mode, although in xorg.conf it has detected another resolutions, how can I put more resolution on my screen ? is there anybody with same GPU card ?
[12:38] <david__> Rookie-1 how do u get the list of available commands?
[12:38] <Vigo> YoshiG3: Did you xorg config it?
[12:39] <david__> !info
[12:39] <ubotu> info: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8.dfsg.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 159 kB, installed size 328 kB
[12:39] <sikumkum> anyone know how to fix the openssl amd64bit with php-cli (stream_select) problemm ?
[12:40] <YoshiG3> Vigo: Config the installer?
[12:40] <frogzoo> !docs | david__
[12:40] <ubotu> david__: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[12:40] <Rookie-1> david__ - just ask ubotu
[12:40] <Vigo> CodeWarrior: at the Forums page is a detailed and possible solution for you also, I did the xorg thing to get an Xpress200 series to work.
[12:40] <YoshiG3> it's saying "Syntax Error: Bad Substitution"
[12:40] <frogzoo> david__: also, ls /usr/bin/, ls /bin, ls /sbin
[12:40] <david__> thx ;-)
[12:41] <maddogPT> hi all
[12:41] <Vigo> YoshiG3: let me try and find it for you
[12:41] <CodeWarrior_> Vigo: what driver is Xpress200 ?
[12:42] <maddogPT> i'm with some trouble installing linux, could some1 help me? I would much appreciate
[12:42] <maddogPT> ubuntu doesnt recognize my raid0
[12:42] <maddogPT> :(
[12:43] <mneptok> maddogPT: if your RAID chipset has no Linux drivers then that's wha'ppens.
[12:43] <maddogPT> it's intel ICHR8
[12:44] <christopherl> what's the name of the package providing time and date?
[12:44] <Vigo> CoideWarrior: The Xpress200 series is an onboard ATI driver that 'was' locked into XP only, it is now OpenSource.
[12:44] <YoshiG3> Vigo: Basically I'm saying the installer won't run, and I'm following the instructions on the website
[12:45] <mneptok> maddogPT: so Google that and see if RAID0 support for that chipset is in the Linux kernel.
[12:45] <CodeWarrior_> Vigo: ok, friend I will try and see at ubuntu forums too, thanks for the tip :-)
[12:45] <Vigo> YoshiG3: You may have to uninstall the old repositories to get the correct ones to function
[12:45] <david__> christopherl: coreutils: /bin/date
[12:46] <YoshiG3> Vigo: how would I do that?
[12:46] <christopherl> thanks
[12:46] <david__> time: /usr/bin/time
[12:46] <david__> first, look for the path with "which date"
[12:46] <david__> then "dpkg -S full_path"
[12:47] <arvinoids> !seen arvinoids
[12:47] <khoa> arvinoids<EMAIL_ADDRESS>was last seen Wed Jan 24 06:44:28 2007 joining #ubuntu
[12:47] <ubotu> arvinoids is on IRC right now!
[12:48] <sikumkum> gosh..
[12:48] <sikumkum> no one answering my question
[12:48] <sikumkum> its been 2 weeks
[12:48] <christopherl> david__: when I open time-admin it crashes, tips?
[12:49] <Libere> Trying to install alsa driver 1.0.13rc3 on 2.6, and I get an error in the configuration log that says: configure:1635: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[12:49] <frootstripe> !extended
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about extended - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <hamre_> hey
[12:50] <hamre_> got a newbie question
[12:50] <hamre_> does ubuntu have a package system?
[12:50] <hamre_> i need to install ubuntu to use aircrack-ng and madwifi
[12:50] <hamre_> how do i get those onto my system without compiling them manually
[12:50] <david__> christopherl I'm not using gnome! if you want to change the date, you can always use "sudo date -s MMDDhhmm"
[12:50] <Vigo_> hamre_ yes try the Synaptic Package Manager
[12:50] <mjr> I think madwifi is actually installed by default, but if it isn't, linux-restricted-modules-yourversion
[12:51] <EnsignRedshirt> Libere: Do you have build-essential installed?  e.g.: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:51] <olof> is it possible to force a program to reload .asoundrc while running?
[12:51] <christopherl> ok thanks
[12:51] <hamre_> Vigo_: how do i run it?
[12:51] <skirk_> ciao
[12:51] <skirk_> :D
[12:51] <skirk_> exit
[12:51] <skirk_> quit
[12:51] <linuxero_> enverex!
[12:52] <Vigo_> hamre_ : Synaptic is the package manager for Ubuntu
[12:52] <Vigo_> !synaptic
[12:52] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[12:52] <hamre_> but it's graphical
[12:52] <hamre_> i need something for the console
[12:52] <Libere> Apparently not...getting it now.
[12:52] <hamre_> no x
[12:52] <HymnToLife> !apt | hamre_
[12:52] <ubotu> hamre_: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:52] <Viglen> hey
[12:52] <Vigo_> hamre_: Oh ok,
[12:53] <Viglen> when i try copying something from my fat32 mounted partition
[12:53] <Viglen> it dfoest work
[12:53] <Viglen> i have to sudo it
[12:53] <frootstripe> hi all - delete my extended partition and put hda5 as my hda1. is ok if i delete hda5 first (even tho blocks overrun with hda5)
[12:53] <Vigo_> Thank you HymnToLife
[12:54] <Libere> Okay, I have build essential...now do I just try to run the config again?
[12:54] <frootstripe> i mean, by deleting my extended, it's not reallly a "partition", right?
[12:55] <EnsignRedshirt> Libere: Take a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[12:56] <hamre_> thanks
[12:57] <Vigo_> I am not feeling good, thank you all and have fun!
[12:57] <wilx|wrk> Hi.
[12:57] <wilx|wrk> Is there a SVN 1.4.x package for Ubuntu?
[12:57] <Libere> Thank you.
[12:58] <wilx|wrk> I don't see any different than 1.3.2 in Synaptic, but I could swear 1.4.x was there last time I checked.
[12:58] <heatxsink> anyone in here know if ubuntu-server's kernel is compiled with ipmi support as a module in the kernel?
[12:59] <EnsignRedshirt> wilx|wrk: In packages.ubuntu.com,. you'll see that feisty has 1.4.2
[01:01] <wilx|wrk> Hmm, and I have Edgy Eft...
[01:01] <wilx|wrk> I thought this was the newest.
[01:01] <EnsignRedshirt> wilx|wrk: It is. feisty is not released yet.
[01:02] <frogzoo> wilx|wrk: edgy is latest release, yes
[01:02] <frennkie> When will the next LTS Version of Ubuntu come? Will Feisty be LTS? thx
[01:02] <matteo> anyone with javaws can test this app with different JREs for me? http://teknoraver.campuslife.it/software/dama.jnlp
[01:02] <HymnToLife> frennkie, if everything goes as planned, the next LTS will be Feisty+1
[01:04] <frennkie> so every third release will be LTS ?
[01:05] <maddogPT> any1 can help, plz ?
[01:05] <maddogPT> ubuntu doesnt recognize my raid0
[01:05] <maddogPT> :(
[01:05] <maddogPT> how to install a dual boot?
[01:06] <Hobbsee> HymnToLife: frennkie they've never said that.  no one knows
[01:06] <Hobbsee> !dual boot | maddogPT
[01:06] <ubotu> maddogPT: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[01:07] <Suavsilk> sup yo
[01:07] <Suavsilk> holdn it down in the linux hizzy
[01:07] <frennkie> HymnToLife,Hobbsee: ok. Thx!
[01:07] <Suavsilk> \X/_(-_-)_\X/
[01:07] <Suavsilk> cya
[01:08] <SkirK> !chan
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <SkirK> !list
[01:08] <SkirK> mmm
[01:08] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:08] <SkirK> qual il canale per chattare?
[01:08] <SkirK> ubuntu-chat?
[01:09] <HymnToLife> !it | SkirK
[01:09] <ubotu> SkirK: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:09] <frogzoo> !fr | SkirK
[01:09] <ubotu> SkirK: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:09] <goldeagle> hello friends, I'm doing update dapper for edgy, but I have error, http://sial.org/pbot/22600, I need help
[01:10] <SkirK> sorry, i write in wrong CHAN sorry!!!!
[01:10] <maddogPT> !resolution
[01:10] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:10] <HymnToLife> frogzoo, that was definitely not french
[01:11] <frogzoo> HymnToLife: if you say so
[01:12] <EspenBe_j> do anyone of you know about any kind of software for Linux to create flow-charts?
[01:12] <mjr> EspenBe_j, dia may be workable
[01:13] <Libere> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[01:13] <EnsignRedshirt> EspenBe_j: I haven't used it, but apparently dia has a flowcharts plugin.
[01:13] <EspenBe_j> thanks :) installing now...
[01:15] <Angelus> hi guys, was wondering if someone could answer a silly question
[01:15] <HymnToLife> !ask | Angelus
[01:15] <ubotu> Angelus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:16] <frootstripe> awww - can't somebody answer a one question regarding extended partitions (one i want to delete
[01:16] <frootstripe> plz
[01:16] <Viglen> okay
[01:16] <Angelus> ok, I'm using a program called bluefish, and it needs a browser to preview an xml document. I've only got firefox. It is asking for a command to open firefox, I'm looking for that command :)
[01:16] <Angelus> I hope that makes sense
[01:17] <HymnToLife> Angelus, firefox :)
[01:17] <HymnToLife> frootstripe, just ask your question
[01:18] <Angelus> at the moment i have this "firefox -remote 'openURL(%s, new-window)' || firefox %s&"
[01:18] <Angelus> I copied it from the mozilla one
[01:18] <Angelus> but it's not working
[01:18] <frootstripe> can i delete an extended partition without losing my data on hda5?
[01:18] <HymnToLife> Angelus, try with just firefox
[01:18] <frootstripe> the blocks overlap
[01:18] <frogzoo> frootstripe: try gparted
[01:19] <frogzoo> frootstripe: only you can't delete an extended partition without deleting all the logical partitions inside
[01:19] <Libere> Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution
[01:19] <Libere> or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel
[01:19] <Libere> sources (default is /usr/src/linux).
[01:19] <r3d|line> hi all
[01:20] <r3d|line> i have aproblem
[01:20] <r3d|line> in ubuntu live cd
[01:20] <Angelus> it didn't work
[01:20] <frootstripe> frogzoo: sure, I have gparted burned, i just want to make sure what i'm doing is right - can i delete the extended, on which hda5 rests, before i delete hda5
[01:20] <shuan> hi
[01:20] <r3d|line> hi
[01:21] <frogzoo> frootstripe: no, you must delete all contained logical partitions before deleting the extended partition
[01:21] <shuan> can someone help me
[01:21] <frootstripe> i actually want to delete everything except hda5
[01:21] <shuan> E: Type O::deb is not known on line 40 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:21] <shuan> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[01:21] <shuan> i keep getting this message
[01:21] <nysosym> what do u think about these new file replace dialog? http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newreplacedialog4tt.png
[01:21] <shuan> anyone able to help
[01:21] <HymnToLife> shuan, synatax error in our sources.list, please pastebin the file
[01:21] <Angelus> anyone have a good program to make GDM's?
[01:21] <HymnToLife> syntax*
[01:21] <r3d|line> i'm waiting for help
[01:21] <khatahn> r3d|line: is this the part where we must ask "what problem?" before you tell us what the problem is? :)
[01:21] <frogzoo> frootstripe: your best off to move the data on hda5 somewhere else
[01:22] <MatthewV> Angelus, try firefox %s
[01:22] <frogzoo> r3d|line: no need for prelims - just state your problem, if one of the 1000 people in chan can help, they will
[01:22] <MatthewV> for your bluefish problem that is
[01:23] <Viglen> does a
[01:23] <r3d|line> khatahn: sorry but i'm not very good in English
[01:24] <r3d|line> OK
[01:24] <Viglen> does anyone know hw to change user privalidges?
[01:24] <Howitzer> Does anyone know if gparted can resize FAT32 partitions WITHOUT destroying the data currently on it? (please only answer if you're 100% sure, really can't afford to lose this data)
[01:24] <Viglen> i cant rename, create, delete anything on a mounted fat32
[01:25] <Howitzer> i mean unmounted :)
[01:25] <Math^> maybe some stupid question, but how can I connect from pc to pc? both have ubuntu 6.10
[01:25] <r3d|line> i have a lock in the partitions
[01:26] <Angelus> anyone have a good program to make GDM's??
[01:26] <Math^> in other words: how do I find my shared folders back?
[01:26] <I-kido> Howitzer with gparted u can.
[01:26] <frootstripe> frogzoo:  ok, could you take a look at my partition table and maybe give me another pointer :>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2739/
[01:26] <vagn> viglin: look at mount options, consider mounting the partition with option user=viglin or whatever
[01:27] <Math^> someone...?
[01:27] <Howitzer> I-kido, thank you :)
[01:27] <I-kido> yw
[01:27] <Viglen> vagn, i dont get what you mean
[01:27] <vagn> man mount
[01:27] <Viglen> i have a user, that i want it to be superuser
[01:27] <Viglen> give it all privalidges
[01:28] <vagn> viglin, don't do that ... instead use su to change to root
[01:28] <Viglen> i cant use sudo whenever i want to copy or do anything
[01:28] <Viglen> i want it graphical
[01:28] <MatthewV> Viglen, make sure that user is a member of the admin group
[01:29] <I-kido> Viglen Ubuntu, gnome?
[01:29] <Viglen> ubuntu
[01:29] <Hobbsee> !sudo
[01:29] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:29] <vagn> first, if you mount the fat32 as user=viglin you will be able to do anything you want to the partition, since you will have read/wite there
[01:29] <Hobbsee> !gksudo
[01:29] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[01:29] <MatthewV> if you need to do it graphical, and you really really need to - hit alt-f2 then run 'gksudo nautilus'
[01:29] <spocky_> hi
[01:29] <I-kido> Viglen gnome of kde ?
[01:29] <MatthewV> oops.. ubotu says avoid ever using taht.... :(
[01:31] <Viglen> 2.12.1
[01:31] <vagn> question: is cuspsys known to be broken recently?  'cuase now when I print the printer wants me to load paper manually, where before it just took paper from whichever tray had some
[01:31] <Libere> Okay, super Duh question.  I'm *still* trying to install this alsa driver, and I actually got it to run the config but it said that I needed the full kernel source, so I got that, and then I tried it again, and it says the same thing.  Is that cause I didn't reboot?
[01:31] <frootstripe> math: do you want to do it directly, or through a router?
[01:32] <frogzoo> frootstripe: can't do much unless you backup or have another disk
[01:32] <r3d|line> my problem this mas
[01:32] <frootstripe> frogzoo: thanx
[01:32] <r3d|line> msg "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hda5"."
[01:33] <r3d|line> can any body help
[01:34] <r3d|line> hello
[01:34] <r3d|line> any body here
[01:34] <bauer77> last I checked I was
[01:34] <OrT> Anyone a suggestion how to forward ports locally (let another port forward to default ssh)?
[01:34] <r3d|line> hi ba
[01:35] <r3d|line> "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hda5"."
[01:35] <bauer77> forward ports locally?
[01:35] <frogzoo> OrT: iptables
[01:35] <OrT> my router doesn't allow a public and a private port
[01:35] <OrT> so all that's commin in to 2222 should be forwarded to 22
[01:35] <Trixsey> Ubuntu has this nasty habit of sending raw data to my printer. For instance if I print something from gedit, it prints as raw pdf.. gets real messy.. tons of pages
[01:35] <OrT> for example.
[01:35] <Trixsey> What should I do?
[01:38] <EnsignRedshirt> Trixsey: Just a guess (I'm no expert): You might have the wrong printer driver installed.  You could try removing the printer, and reinstalling it, making sure that you have the correct driver.
[01:39] <zOap> how can I set what users that are able to run one certain program? This program(XLI) is default to root only but I want my ordinary user to run it as well. suid root/sudo is not an option since it's being called/loaded from another program that is running with ordinary user privelidges..
[01:43] <mwe> zOap: suid root will work in that case
[01:43] <frootstripe> !backup
[01:43] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[01:44] <SoulChild> HELLO, how can i reset all my log files in /usr/log???
[01:44] <SoulChild> can i delete them without problems
[01:45] <I-kido> SouldChild logrotate already does that for u
[01:45] <SoulChild> !logfiles
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logfiles - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <SoulChild> !logs
[01:45] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[01:45] <SzArAk> !logrotate SoulChild
[01:45] <ubotu> logrotate: Log rotation utility. In component main, is standard. Version 3.7.1-3 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 160 kB
[01:45] <SzArAk> !logrotate| SoulChild
[01:46] <SoulChild> I-kido, thanks
[01:46] <SoulChild> SzArAk, thanks
[01:46] <I-kido> tnx SzArAk :)
[01:46] <SzArAk> ;p
[01:46] <I-kido> SouldChild np
[01:46] <learnin9> hi
[01:46] <SzArAk> I-kido: i almoust did it right ;p
[01:46] <I-kido> loll  u did good
[01:46] <X|Rolando> does anyone here have any experience with the acer_acpi module?
[01:46] <I-kido> i forgot ubotu
[01:46] <learnin9> i come from china,i am using ubuntu-6.10
[01:47] <viviersf> has anyone ever heard about a laptops screen dimming when power is plugged in, and the screen brightens up when its running on batteries
[01:48] <I-kido> viviersf ubuntu does that in laptopmode
[01:49] <viviersf> I-kido, i doesnt, that is in reverse
[01:49] <viviersf> it should dimm when on battery not brighten up
[01:49] <thomas_> irc://irc.abjects.net/defonic-albums
[01:49] <I-kido> viviers, hold on
[01:49] <Trixsey> EnsignRedshirt, I just installed the specific driver :'(
[01:50] <EnsignRedshirt> Trixsey: OK, well, that's the end of my suggestions :(
[01:51] <frootstripe> learnin9: hi
[01:51] <niekie> Anyone know how I could turn my Ubuntu-Server in a NAS system with web-based control?
[01:51] <frootstripe> hey ppl, what
[01:51] <niekie> (I'd rather not install another distro like Openfiler)
[01:51] <frootstripe> what's the command for splitting up a tarball file into sections
[01:53] <di> help, i cant type double quotes or single quotes, that key is working differently:  and
[01:53] <frootstripe> ah, split, that's the ticket....
[01:54] <frootstripe> ty, frootstripe!
[01:54] <weijie902> help, i cant type double quotes or single quotes, that key is working differently:  and
[01:54] <weijie902> i have to press the button twice to get  which is not the normal single quote
[01:54] <weijie902> and  twice to get this weird double quote
[01:55] <zk> hello all -  i have not upgraded for a while and when i tried today, i got the following error:
[01:55] <zk> Extract templates from packages: 100%
[01:55] <zk> Preconfiguring packages ...
[01:55] <zk> (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/tar_1.15.91-2ubuntu0.3_i386.deb (--unpack):
[01:55] <zk>  files list file for package `grub' contains empty filename
[01:55] <zk> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:55] <zk>  /var/cache/apt/archives/tar_1.15.91-2ubuntu0.3_i386.deb
[01:55] <zk> Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
[01:56] <zk> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:56] <zk> oopss sorry - i didn't realise that was so l9ong!
[01:56] <weijie902> !pastebin
[01:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:56] <zk> coulod anyone please help me? i am not sure what to do. i searched google but no lucl
[01:56] <weijie902> help, i cant type double quotes or single quotes, that key is working differently:  and
[01:56] <niekie> weijie902: Try a space bar after the character.
[01:57] <niekie> Like spacebar will get "
[01:58] <weijie902> niekie: oh it works
[01:58] <weijie902> niekie: but how do i fix it?
[01:58] <bugihugi> else you can borrow one of those : '`"
[01:59] <aBiNg> hi .all
[01:59] <weijie902> i tried to change the keymap using dpkg-reconfigure console-data, but no luck
[01:59] <weijie902> do i need to reboot?
[01:59] <niekie> weijie902: you can change it, but personally I like this way much better.
[01:59] <isofunk> hi
[01:59] <weijie902> niekie: how?
[01:59] <niekie> You can do this for example: hit ' and e and get
[01:59] <aBiNg> anybody knows howto activate the fcitx IM in fluxbox?
[01:59] <weijie902> niekie: but i speak english only...
[02:00] <niekie> weijie902: ?
[02:00] <jeastman> Is there someone I can report a deb repository permission problem to? I get a 403 when I attempt to access http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-i386_2.4-1ubuntu12.2_amd64.deb
[02:00] <niekie> weijie902: I think it can be changed somewhere for console, but I only know how to do it in GNOME.
[02:01] <weijie902> niekie: no need for
[02:01] <zk> could someone help mepls?
[02:01] <weijie902> niekie: i installed the server version
[02:01] <EnsignRedshirt> jeastman: A bug has already been filed.
[02:01] <jeastman> EnsignRedshirt
[02:01] <niekie> weijie902: no idea =\
[02:01] <jeastman> EnsignRedshirt: Ok thanks
[02:01] <niekie> Someone else here might know.
[02:02] <zk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2741/
[02:02] <zk> i can't upgrade
[02:02] <weijie902> niekie: thanks for the spacebar tip btw!
[02:02] <EnsignRedshirt> jeastman: Wait... I'm not sure it is the same thing.
[02:02] <niekie> No problem :)
[02:02] <weijie902> help, i cant type double quotes or single quotes, that key is working differently:  and
[02:02] <weijie902> please help..
[02:02] <EnsignRedshirt> Argh, he left already.
[02:03] <zk> pleeeease
[02:03] <NET||abuse> hi all, i've had an intersting time with my laptop the last little while.
[02:03] <NET||abuse> nm-aplet wont connect to anything,, i have just managed to get it working fine with wi-fi radar,
[02:04] <abhinay> xchat opening urls in epiphany browser by default, how to change it to firefox ?
[02:04] <th0m> hi,
[02:04] <NET||abuse> so wifi is working, i'm on it now,, but the last 3 times, i've tried 4 or 5 times by just using nm-applet, no joy,, try with radar and straight off it works fine
[02:04] <NET||abuse> it's weird
[02:04] <feesh> where can I download the source code for apt-get ?
[02:05] <feesh> or well, apt
[02:05] <th0m> does anybody use nfs shared homes for its user, because i have some freeze under X (like a network failure?!)
[02:05] <zk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2741/
[02:05] <zk> i can't upgrade
[02:05] <zk> pleeeease someone help
[02:05] <feesh> th0m: have you got portmap?
[02:06] <feesh> portmap speeds up the nfs mount time, but if you just can't mount nfs at all, I've had a similar issue and the only way I got around it was getting another NIC
[02:06] <th0m> feesh, yes
[02:06] <th0m> i can mount
[02:06] <feesh> of course, it's hard to tell if it's the same issue
[02:06] <feesh> sorry dude, I don't know then
[02:06] <th0m> i can use it, but X freeze some time
[02:07] <feesh> does any one know where I can get the source for apt?
[02:07] <zk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2741/
[02:07] <zk> i can't upgrade
[02:07] <zk> pleeeease someone help
[02:07] <zk>  files list file for package `grub' contains empty filename
[02:08] <zk> what on earth does that mean? i have tried redownloading that file
[02:08] <zk> but no luck
[02:08] <zk> same error
[02:08] <zk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2741/
[02:09] <zk> can anyone helppls?
[02:11] <zk> anyone?
[02:11] <HymnToLife> zk, what exactly do you want to do ?
[02:11] <zk> i am trying to install the updates HymnToLife
[02:12] <zk> HymnToLife, but it just gives me the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2741/
[02:12] <HymnToLife> have you reinstalled it ?
[02:12] <weijie90> Help, i cant type double quotes and single quotes
[02:12] <HymnToLife> (the "grub" package)
[02:13] <mustaukko> caci: I solved it. compiz is still giving me issues, but yeah, I had about three different versions of nvidia. It seemed that an update rom 7xxx to 8776 had crapped.
[02:13] <weijie90> when i hit the button twice  or  (no shift and shift respecively) appears
[02:13] <mustaukko> YoshiG3: still having trouble?
[02:13] <zk> HymnToLife, how would i do that?
[02:14] <zk> HymnToLife, i haven't reinstalled it - i am just trying to install all the updates
[02:14] <patrick__> !nvidia
[02:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:14] <patrick__> !p2p
[02:14] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[02:15] <zk> HymnToLife, any idea what the problemmay be?
[02:15] <weijie90> when i hit the button twice  or  (no shift and shift respecively) appears
[02:15] <weijie90> Help, i cant type double quotes and single quotes
[02:15] <HymnToLife> zk, download the grub package from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:15] <HymnToLife> then install it
[02:15] <HymnToLife> !deb
[02:15] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[02:16] <Vandalay> debby packages
[02:16] <zOap> It seems dapper doenst print the path to /usr/X11R6/bin for "normal users" where do I put that path so that it's avalable for "normal users" ?
[02:17] <HymnToLife> zOap, in the $PATH environment variable
[02:17] <zOap> HymnToLife, and where is that?
[02:17] <I-kido> weijie90 try U.S English keyboard layout, Generic 105-key (Intl) PC
[02:18] <weijie90> I-kido: how do i change it?
[02:18] <cypher1_> is wiki.ubuntu.com is the proper place to share my tips and tricks or some how-to's ?
[02:18] <I-kido> Ubuntu, Gnome ?
[02:18] <HymnToLife> zOap, do you want to add it to the PATH for only one user or all of them ?
[02:18] <zk> HymnToLife, grub --version
[02:18] <zk> grub (GNU GRUB 0.97)
[02:18] <frootstripe> zOap: echo $PATH on your command line
[02:18] <zOap> HymnToLife, well the best is to get all the users get them, but I can rest with just the one...
[02:19] <zOap> frootstripe, I want it permanent and for gui programs too
[02:19] <HymnToLife> zOap, I repeat, for only one user or all of them ?
[02:19] <HymnToLife> (sorry, we cross-typed I guess :p)
[02:19] <HymnToLife> zOap, do you have a file named /etc/bashrc
[02:20] <HymnToLife> or something similar
[02:20] <zOap> HymnToLife, I answered that:) I want it for all of them but if its hard I can do it for just one of them.. But I prefer for all of them
[02:20] <zOap> HymnToLife, yes.
[02:20] <HymnToLife> open it in your favourite text editor and pastebin it
[02:21] <frootstripe> z0ap: put it in /etc/bash.bashrc, i believe that's the ticket ;P
[02:21] <zOap> HymnToLife, http://pastebin.ca/326810
[02:21] <HymnToLife> zk, did you reinstall the grub package as I told you ?
[02:21] <zOap> HymnToLife, what should I put there?
[02:23] <HymnToLife> zOap, line 5, add this at the end (without quotes : ":/usr/X11R6/bin"
[02:23] <zOap> HymnToLife,  ok thanks
[02:23] <HymnToLife> then logout and log back in
[02:23] <deltaray2> I'm getting this when I try to do the latest updates
[02:23] <deltaray2> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main libc6 2.4-1ubuntu12.2 403 Forbidden [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[02:23] <deltaray2> I've tried it a few times, no go.
[02:23] <deltaray2> Do I need to change mirrors?
[02:24] <HymnToLife> you can do echo $PATH do make sure it was added correctly
[02:24] <zOap> HymnToLife, ok, thanks:)
[02:24] <EnsignRedshirt> deltaray2: There is a packaging bug that the develepors are trying to fix.  Maybe they have locked that file to prevent updates until it is fixed?
[02:24] <HymnToLife> to*
[02:24] <deltaray2> maybe
[02:24] <deltaray2> EnsignRedshirt, perhaps
[02:25] <zOap> HymnToLife, you mean "echo PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin" ?
[02:25] <EnsignRedshirt> deltaray2: ...so maybe it's a good thing you can't get it.  Some people in the forums are having some real problems after the libc6 update.
[02:26] <HymnToLife> no, just echo $PATH
[02:26] <zOap> HymnToLife, ok, thanks:)
[02:26] <HymnToLife> to see if /usr/X11R6/bin has been correctly added to it
[02:27] <deltaray2> EnsignRedshirt, Hmmm. I'm not having any problems on the machine I'm on now after doing the update.  I hadn't done it yet on this other machine that I'm getting the error on.
[02:27] <deltaray2> I'll wait
[02:27] <tuok> Hi! I have little problem with my ubuntu.. I tried to set shortcuts to music player (I pressed Windows-button+z,x,c,v,b) and now my zxcvb-buttons wont work at all! What should I do to fix this annoying problem? (It's pretty slow to type with help of character map :) )
[02:27] <m1r4g3> Hi, anyone able to use belgian electronic identity card on ubuntu?
[02:28] <EnsignRedshirt> deltaray2: From what I read on the forum, it seems the problem might only occur if you have certain other packages installed.
[02:29] <foolip> is there a way to list the installed packages which do not exist in the repositories or are newer than the ones in the repository? i've manually installed quite a few new versions of gstreamer libraries and whatnot and would like to see exactly what I've messed with.
[02:29] <tuok> any idea if I can reset my shortcut settings or something like that?
[02:31] <frogzoo> foolip: you can see that in synaptic under local package
[02:32] <esaym> hey everyone
[02:32] <jenda> frogzoo: remember when I asked about the flashdrive/encrypted partition?
[02:32] <jenda> hey, esaym
[02:32] <esaym> does the tar command have a variable for the level of compression?
[02:32] <foolip> frogzoo, where can I find "local package", I'm still on dapper, maybe it doesn't exist yet?
[02:32] <esaym> I thought it did but the man page says nothing
[02:32] <jenda> frogzoo: I finally got that machine with the key... but I can't find the link you gave me.
[02:33] <esaym> I am writing a backup script and I want max compression
[02:34] <HymnToLife> esaym, a standard tar + bzip2 should give you a very nice level of compression
[02:34] <ljl16> hello!
[02:34] <dv_> 7zip is very nice, too.
[02:34] <Co_Manizz> .dal.net
[02:34] <esaym> True but I thought it had a configurable variable
[02:35] <dv_> it also has the advantage of being able to decompress individual files without decompressing the entire stream
[02:35] <esaym> like commpression level 1-9
[02:35] <dv_> bzip2 has this level
[02:35] <dv_> 9 being max compression, 1 min
[02:35] <esaym> oh ok so it is bzip then
[02:35] <gord> tar just holds together the files (like glue... or tar....) bzip/gzip typically does all the compression esaym
[02:35] <esaym> bzip is better too huh?
[02:35] <esaym> oh I see
[02:35] <esaym> hmm
[02:36] <dv_> yes, tar -cjf calls bzip2
[02:36] <dv_> and -czf gzip
[02:37] <esaym> so tar -czf?
[02:37] <dv_> I'd use bzip2
[02:37] <dv_> its slower than gzip, but compresses better
[02:37] <esaym> tar -cjf /filename/?
[02:38] <dv_> tar -cjf archivename.tar.bz2 file_to_add another_file_to_add ...
[02:38] <dv_> (note that you also can add directories)
[02:38] <esaym> interesting
[02:38] <esaym> Thank you
[02:39] <PhibreOptix> Hi guys, ever since I did apt-get dist-upgrade whenever I open something from the terminal I get the error: libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering and glxgears performs really slowly
[02:40] <esaym> Hmm still can't find the command for the compression variable. Do you know it off hand dv?
[02:40] <esaym> dv_
[02:41] <dv_> I use libbz2 in my projects
[02:41] <dv_> never used the compression variable with tar tho
[02:41] <esaym> -[0-7] [lmh]
[02:41] <esaym>               specify drive and density
[02:41] <esaym> is that it?
[02:41] <dv_> no
[02:42] <esaym> hmm yeae it should go to 9
[02:45] <_vlo> How do I stop Rhythmbox from updating a podcast channel?
[02:45] <esaym> well I got to get ready for schoo
[02:46] <forkqueue> Is there a reason why I'm unable to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6_2.4-1ubuntu12.1_amd64.deb ?
[02:46] <forkqueue> I get a 403 error..
[02:46] <anti_system32> hola salen esaol por favol
[02:46] <anti_system32> sala
[02:47] <IdleOne> esaym: check this link out not sure if its what you need http://www.ubuntugeek.com/disk-archive-backup-and-restore-using-dar-and-kdardar-frontend.html
[02:47] <anti_system32> sala en espaol
[02:47] <IdleOne> !es
[02:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:47] <cyzie> just wish to find out if anyone has bought HP Pavilion model DV6126TX and install ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu ?
[02:48] <IdleOne> forkqueue: repo may be down temporarily
[02:49] <zehntagebart> hi there
[02:49] <forkqueue> IdleOne: Nope, repo is fine
[02:49] <forkqueue> IdleOne: I can fetch other files
[02:49] <forkqueue> IdleOne: Looks to me like someone chmod -r'd the file
[02:49] <zehntagebart> somebody able to help with cryptdisks?
[02:49] <esaym> ok thanlks
[02:49] <IdleOne> could be
[02:50] <oxygen> hello
[02:50] <oxygen> help me pls
[02:50] <IdleOne> hey
[02:50] <IdleOne> !helpme
[02:50] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:50] <oxygen> i need graphic color change management tool on ubuntu
[02:50] <Vom> Heeeeeeeeeya.
[02:50] <esaym> oh well I am not trying to backup ubuntu, but an old firewall box I have
[02:50] <oxygen> is there any tool or programs for ubuntu ?
[02:51] <CheshireViking> I've just resized my win xp drive to give me 10Gb of unallocated disk space, should I manually create the partitions to install ubuntu, or should i let the install cd allocate the space itself?  I want to reserve about 2gb to set aside for a fat32 partition so that i can safely transfer data between winxp and ubuntu, would i be better creating that partition first before installing ubuntu
[02:51] <IdleOne> esaym: like I said wasnt sure if it was what you needed but could come in handy :)
[02:51] <oxygen> help me pls
[02:51] <Tomcat_> CheshireViking: Create the fat32 partition, then let the installer decide for the rest.
[02:51] <Vom> oxygen whats yer question
[02:51] <Vom> Is there any programs for ubuntu? :D
[02:51] <oxygen> :)
 i need graphic color change management tool on ubuntu
[02:51] <oxygen> no
[02:51] <esaym> true
[02:51] <lojikal> cheshireviking: yeah, create your partitions, then point the installer at the big chunk for the rest
[02:51] <esaym> does it work through ssh?
[02:52] <esaym> eor can it?
[02:52] <jenda> What's a reasonable keysize for an encrypted partition? And is it ok for the partition to be 2 Gig, or is that too much?
[02:52] <IdleOne> esaym: yeah it does
[02:52] <Vom> Well, ill shoot my question then:
[02:52] <esaym> interesting
[02:52] <zehntagebart> i encrypted hda2 (swap), hda3 (/var) and hda4 (/home) with cryptdisks. but the are not mounted after boot and i get no prompt to enter the passwords =(
[02:52] <lojikal> cheshireviking: and you know you'll need to configure grub to recognize the other OS's, right?
[02:52] <oxygen> is there ?
[02:52] <oxygen> Tomcat_,
[02:52] <Vom> Am I able to install World of Warcraft on ubuntu 6.10 with an ati x800 gto card.
[02:52] <Tomcat_> oxygen: I have no idea, that's why I didn't reply. I don't even know what color management does... sorry. :\
[02:53] <lojikal> vom: no
[02:53] <oxygen> okey
[02:53] <LycanNYC-work> !server
[02:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[02:53] <Vom> And you gave me that answer because of ?
[02:53] <CheshireViking> Tomcat_ & lojikal : thanks for that, confirms what i thought, set up shared partition first, then let ubuntu do the work, presumably that'll allocate some of the free space to swap & the rest to its own installation
[02:53] <oxygen> does everybody not know it =
[02:53] <lojikal> zehntagebart: why the hell did you encrypt swap?
[02:53] <Tomcat_> CheshireViking: Exactly. :)
[02:54] <Vom> oxygen google ;)
[02:54] <lojikal> cheshireviking: yeah, it'll make swap, depending on what it thinks it needs, a boot partition, etc...
[02:54] <Vom> Could someone give me a proper answer to this question of mine, Can I play WoW on ubuntu with an ati card
[02:54] <oxygen> Vom, : icant find
[02:55] <Jowi> !wow | Vom (not sure if the question is answered here)
[02:55] <ubotu> Vom (not sure if the question is answered here): Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[02:55] <CheshireViking> lojikal: will i need to manually configure grub? the dual boot i did at home automatically configured grub so that ubuntu autostarts in 10 seconds unless i press a key & select windows to boot from, i didn't have to do anything with grub - but the difference there was i was using 2 hard drives, not partitions on the same drive
[02:55] <lojikal> vom: no, you cannot. You need windows api... mac version might work, but i seriously doubt it
[02:56] <Vom> Well how come theres an tutorial in ubuntu.com about installing Wow ?
[02:56] <Vom> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[02:56] <zehntagebart> lojikal, because it was listed in the wiki manual =)
[02:56] <lojikal> cheshireviking: perhaps, if it works, great, if not, just put your partitions into /etc/grub.conf manually (there's good documentation in taht file)
[02:57] <esaym> Wow I didn't know about this: http://debian.co.nz/tutorials/14
[02:57] <lojikal> vom: oh, perhaps there is a windows wrapper taht will do it -- maybe wine?
[02:57] <Jowi> Vom, seems like you can since Tweak #1 is for both ATi and nVidia
[02:57] <CheshireViking> lojikal: thanks for that advice, fingers crossed nothing goes wrong
[02:57] <Vom> Jowi okay, well.
[02:57] <lojikal> cheshireviking: if it does, we're here, lol
[02:57] <Vom> Last time i tried, it was on ubuntu 6.05 or something or i believe so, and then I had proplems with ATi card
[02:58] <Vom> Well, Jowi's answer maybe gave me some inspiration to again and try that shit out! :D
[02:58] <Jowi> Vom, you do have a good ati card though and has DRI enabled in Linux?
[02:59] <Vom> mmh
[02:59] <Vom> I'd say this is a good card, x800 GTO
[02:59] <CheshireViking> lojikal: i've been lucky so far, changed to 3 slackware/ubuntu only installs and a dual boot without much problem - if this goes as well as those i'll be smiling
[02:59] <Jowi> Vom, "glxinfo | grep direct" should say yes. if it do I would say "go ahead"
[03:00] <Vom> Jowi well i cant really see my glxinfo now in Windows :b
[03:00] <lojikal> cheshireviking: yeah, grub has gotten alot better, just depends on what gets installed in what order, etc...
[03:00] <Jowi> Vom, you can't? how strange hehe
[03:00] <dirrty> How can I get hide joins and quits in XChat?
[03:00] <Vom> ;-)
[03:01] <Vom> Jowi by the way
[03:01] <Jowi> dirrty, Settings -> advanced -> text events
[03:01] <gord> right click the channel tab (or list item if you use the list view) and uncheck show join/quit dirrty
[03:01] <lojikal> Ok, so I'm behind a campus firewall which allows one port in and out (aside from pt 80), and I need a socks proxy or virtual vpn type deal so taht I can forward all the ports through a tunnel to another computer... any ideas?
[03:02] <Vom> In windows, WoW doesnt need any registry or instaling to work, I mean that you can backup the WoW folder and just paste it back to yer hard drive for it to work
[03:02] <Vom> Do you believe that thing would change if id try th esame thing no linux?
[03:02] <Vom> on*
[03:02] <Jowi> Vom, I have no idea
[03:02] <insolado> Hi, i'm new on ubuntu (dapper) and i want some help, like... where can i get a basic manual of this? i want to know how and where to install and uninstall programs (console), what does /usr /sbin /dev , etc. mean? and so....
[03:03] <insolado> and anybody knows how to get details about my computer? specially about my processor
[03:03] <Lynoure> insolado: hardware, you mean?   sudo lshw
[03:03] <Vom> Jowi does ubuntu have any webpage or such for list of hardware which are guaranteed to work with it
[03:03] <bugihugi> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:03] <Seeker`> does anyone know where the irssi-scripts package installs the scripts?
[03:03] <insolado> thanks
[03:04] <IdleOne> !hardware
[03:04] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:04] <lojikal> insolado: you don't install software in a specific place, you either "make && make install" the source, or grab a deb package (apt-get FTW!)
[03:04] <forkqueue> Seeker`: dpkg -L irssi-scripts
[03:04] <IdleOne> !hardware > Vom
[03:04] <lojikal> insolado: as for a basic guide, try the wiki
[03:04] <CanadianMan> question, when i type mode2 i get, mode2: error opening /dev/lirc mode2: No such file or directory, any help on why?
[03:04] <lojikal> insolado: also, prolly should upgrade to edgy... latest better...
[03:04] <IdleOne> Vom: your welcome
[03:04] <forkqueue> CanadianMan: Because the lirc module isn't loaded probably..
[03:04] <HymnToLife> lojikal, not really
[03:05] <HymnToLife> !worksforme
[03:05] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:05] <Jowi> Vom, I haven't seen any
[03:05] <Vom> Right of the bat, Ati a8n-e :-)
[03:05] <xopher> hi, anyone here who's got experience on how to install a canon mp150 printer?
[03:05] <Vom> Now before I make any stupid decisions im gonna start typing down with pencil and paper, notes and such.
[03:05] <X|Rolando> acer laptops and/or acer acpi, any suggestions folks?
[03:06] <CanadianMan> forkqueue, how would i load that modprobe or something?
[03:06] <onats> !hibernate
[03:06] <IdleOne> xopher: canon does not provide linux drivers but if you ever get it working let me know
[03:06] <ubotu> hibernate: smartly puts your computer to sleep (suspend to RAM or disk). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.91-2 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB
[03:06] <lojikal> hymntolife, sorry? you mean the wiki's not a good guide? I found it pretty useful
[03:06] <onats> my hibernate is not working properly
[03:06] <jenda> When I do "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda2", will it ever finish, or do I just leave it as long as i feel like it?
[03:06] <onats> any ideas?
[03:06] <oxygen> how can i change gnome starting splash screens
[03:06] <xopher> IdleOne, that much I know. :) Ill let you know if I somehow manage to get it working yeah.
[03:06] <IdleOne> !eyecandy > oxygen
[03:06] <forkqueue> CanadianMan: You need to compile using the lirc-modules-source package, it's a bit of a PITA
[03:06] <HymnToLife> lojikal, no, I mean running the latest version of everything is not alway the best idea
[03:07] <insolado> lojikal: in linux isn't a place for programs like in windows c:\Program Files? I would like to uninstall this old firefox and install the new one, but i want to be sure to delte all the old files...
[03:07] <forkqueue> CanadianMan: There's a page on the wiki about it somewhere
[03:07] <CanadianMan> forkqueue, thank you
[03:07] <ttrygve> I didn't see an answer to forkqueue's question earlier, but I'm also getting 403 errors when Update Manager tries to grab three libc6 files
[03:07] <Vom> IdleOne but how accurate is that?
[03:07] <twisties> How to install 64 bit kernel ??? Currently using 386. On Athlon64 3200+
[03:08] <lojikal> insolado: so "sudo apt-get remove firefox" then "apt-get install firefox"
[03:08] <Vom> Do you think i should not try if my ex. motherboard isnt on that list?
[03:08] <IdleOne> Vom: I assume that like anything else there is probably a margin of eror but I think it is pretty accurate.
[03:08] <lojikal> insolado: if apt-get can't remove all of firefox, it will give you a command to clean it up, run that too
[03:08] <forkqueue> ttrygve: I'm guessing that the update breaks things
[03:08] <joefreire> how to install counter-strike 1.6 in Ubuntu 6.10??
[03:08] <insolado> k, thx
[03:08] <Lynoure> Vom: What's stopping you trying with livecd?
[03:08] <HymnToLife> !wine | joefreire
[03:08] <ubotu> joefreire: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:08] <Vom> Can I do everything with a Live?
[03:09] <ttrygve> yeah, I just figured I'd throw in a "me too" in case anyone important is watching and wasn't aware of a problem =)
[03:09] <oxygen> i have not Configuration Editor
[03:09] <Jowi> xopher, doesn't look too good http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_MP150
[03:09] <Vom> !livecd > Vom
[03:09] <Vom> :<
[03:09] <insolado> you don't get tired answering so many questions?
[03:09] <oxygen> how can i setup it?
[03:09] <joefreire> but u have tutor to install??
[03:09] <crazy_penguin> hello to all!
[03:10] <xopher> Jowi, thanks.. well I found a solution I guess, it's not free though: http://www.turboprint.de/english.html IdleOne this one's for you too ;)
[03:10] <Lynoure> Vom: no, not everything, but it will give you a good idea of whether hardware that is not on that list might work out of the box anyway
[03:10] <Vom> Well, ive been scaling thru the forums.
[03:10] <IdleOne> xopher: yeah I found that one also but I dont want to pay :/
[03:10] <Vom> And I see a lot people using the same videocard as I do
[03:10] <Vom> So i prefer its working fine.
[03:11] <lojikal> insolado: i learn a ton on these channels :) so i dont' mind sharing what i (think i) know
[03:12] <Vom> Ah damnit
[03:12] <Vom> Can anyone answer this question: does ubuntu have any s60 system mobilephone software?
[03:12] <Vom> For installing software and so on?
[03:13] <Lynoure> Vom: I think I know one person with s60 and ubuntu...
[03:13] <Vom> mmh
[03:13] <Vom> Well its not a big deal
[03:13] <Vom> Almost everything can be done with the phone
[03:13] <Vom> And I can do rest on school ;)
[03:13] <xopher> IdleOne, then I found these: http://pixma.schewe.com/ http://home.arcor.de/wittawat/pixma/
[03:13] <mustaukko> Vom: http://www.wahlau.org/series_60_3rd_edition_nokia_n73_synchronization_with_opensync_under_ubuntu_edgy
[03:13] <Lynoure> Vom: But he is offline, so I cannot checked from him..
[03:13] <mribas> www.me.gob.ve
[03:14] <Vom> mustaukko cool, just the right model there :b
[03:14] <Vom> n73 ^^
[03:14] <mustaukko> Vom: thats a synchronization software, it should be able to do it all.
[03:14] <Vom> Okay cool
[03:14] <Vom> Thanks for letting me know this
[03:14] <bauer77> what is the command to see if my 3d rendering is working
[03:14] <mustaukko> Vom, No problem, have fun with ubuntu, and do try out compiz. :D
[03:15] <bauer77> ati radeon 9700
[03:15] <Vom> compiz ? :b
[03:15] <mustaukko> bauer77: glxinfo
[03:15] <GaiaX11> how do i now my ram memory amount? Which is the command?
[03:15] <bauer77> thanks mustaukko
[03:15] <mustaukko> bauer77: glxgears
[03:15] <Jowi> GaiaX11, "free -m" where -m stands for listing in MB
[03:16] <thomas_> hi all
[03:16] <mustaukko> bauer77: those two do the trick. Plus if you try out glxinfo |grep direct then you know if you have direct rendering enabled.
[03:16] <dirrty>  /set irc_conf_mode 1
[03:16] <Jowi> GaiaX11, you can also "cat /proc/meminfo"
[03:17] <bauer77> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:17] <bauer77> any help on this?
[03:17] <bauer77> I have a ATI radeon mobility and am a noob
[03:17] <bauer77> it was using the mesa driver but now I think I have it using fglrx
[03:18] <mustaukko> bauer77: have you installed the fglrx package?
[03:18] <bauer77> yes
[03:19] <bauer77> I believe so
[03:19] <thomas_> i have a problem with the shortcuts for putting my volume up and down accuratly with the shortcut there is only the volume of the PCM that goes down how can i make the shortcut to turn down the sound of the front channel ?
[03:19] <thomas_> bauer77: whats the output of fglrxinfo ?
[03:19] <mustaukko> bauer77: try to use my name, I'll spot your messages easier. :) up arrow gives you the previous message
[03:19] <thomas_> bauer77, had the same problem right yesterday
[03:19] <mustaukko> bauer: put this into console: glxinfo |grep vendor
[03:20] <bauer77> fXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:20] <bauer77> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[03:20] <bauer77> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[03:20] <bauer77> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:20] <bauer77> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[03:20] <mustaukko> bauer: ok, this means that you do not have fglrx as the opengl driver atm.
[03:20] <mustaukko> bauer77: have you tinkered with xorg.conf yet?
[03:21] <bauer77> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:21] <bauer77> server glx vendor string: SGI
[03:21] <bauer77> client glx vendor string: ATI
[03:21] <bauer77> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[03:21] <mustaukko> bauer77: oh, now it says that you've got ati in there..
[03:21] <Jedrick> how can i install driver for my soundcard?
[03:21] <GaiaX11> Jowi: Thx a lot :-)
[03:22] <bauer77> yes but dont think the rendering is working properly.
[03:22] <mustaukko> bauer77: I had this issue today; I had updated nvidia, and had multiple ones installed. it led into it not working correctly.
[03:22] <mustaukko> bauer77: can this be the case in here?
[03:22] <bauer77> no I dont think so
[03:22] <bauer77> this is what happened
[03:22] <bauer77> when I first installed ubuntu
[03:22] <hemppa> !enter
[03:22] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:23] <mustaukko> bauer77: I was able to track it down by using aptitude.
[03:23] <mustaukko> bauer77: You might also want to try envy script. (Although I think it's automation was part of my problem..)
[03:24] <bauer77> so it installed the mesa drivers. I went into the xorg.conf file and ran the configuration again and selected the fglrx instead of the others. This gave my my 1400x900 resolution.
[03:25] <bauer77> but I am still not getting 3d rendering, ( I believe).
[03:25] <bauer77> I hate being a noob.
[03:25] <twisties> How do I install 64 bit kernel?? Am currently running 386 on an amd64
[03:26] <mustaukko> bauer77: have you set the modules right? X server loads different modules at startup.
[03:26] <Jedrick> how can i install driver for my soundcard?
[03:26] <mustaukko> bauer77: It is pretty well described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:27] <mustaukko> bauer77: But I'll run you through it.
[03:27] <bauer77> ok let me check that out, first
[03:27] <aimtrainer> !alsa
[03:27] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[03:27] <bauer77> no sense on you helping if I can read it too..lol
[03:27] <mustaukko> bauer77: Ok, sure. If you have questions about it, I'll be here.
[03:29] <aimtrainer> hi! My sound basically works but my mastervolume doesnt. So I thought I'd update alsa ... can anyone please tell me how to?
[03:29] <aimtrainer> I have some onboard via sound (mainboard: ecs k7vta3)
[03:29] <frootstripe> hi - if I am going to upgrade to edgy, is there a k7 kernel i need to have? cause that is what i'm using now - if so, where is it?
[03:31] <bauer77> Thanks
[03:31] <bauer77> sorry, thanks Mustaukko
[03:31] <MrMist> Hi All
[03:31] <vonk_> chgchan vonk_
[03:31] <jonathaN> frootstripe: no, the number of specific kernel flavours was reduced in edgy, the k7 one and some others are now replaced by one "generic" kernel
[03:31] <mustaukko> bauer77: Did you get it to work?
[03:32] <MrMist> I'm having a problem: I want Amarok to autoplay audio CD's, not "sound juicer". Anyone know how to fix this ?
[03:32] <frootstripe> jonathaN: thanks
[03:32] <thomas_> how is it possible to change the main channel of the volumecontrol ?
[03:34] <mamboadm> hey does anybody know of sympa? i have a minor problem
[03:34] <remssss> hello everyone
[03:35] <PecisDarbs> hello
[03:35] <caci> MrMist: you should be able to set that from "preferred apps"
[03:35] <hexidigital_> i dont know what's going on here guys, but my server keeps locking up to the point that i have to hard reset it
[03:35] <Crescendo> There's no way I can merge two windows of Firefox, is there. :/
[03:35] <zax1> any one know of an open office irc chanel ?
[03:35] <remssss> What 's the problem ?
[03:35] <eliran> I'll think about it
[03:35] <munki3> um, ayone know how i (a complete beginner to linux) can get my creative zen vision working with this ubuntu
[03:35] <munki3> ?
[03:36] <tuskernini> zax1: there is one... just look ant the channels... you win find it
[03:36] <zax1> i am new to irc as well, how do i look ?
[03:36] <falz> so, from a fresh install of ubuntu (edgy), what's the trick to install kde? if I apt-get install kde, it has several unmet dependencies out of the box.
[03:36] <twisties> Can anyone tell me simply how to install a 64 bit kernel instead of the 386 one im using at the moment?
[03:37] <tuskernini> zax1: what are you using ? try /list
[03:37] <Vom> Can i find ubuntu 6.10 on dvd iso ?
[03:37] <fm> hi
[03:37] <zax1> yes  / list worked
[03:37] <MrMist> caci: Er.... it's only internet and terminal apps defined in "preferred application"... or are you thinking about something else ?
[03:37] <munki3> Vom: you run out of cd-r's?
[03:37] <Vom> Yup
[03:37] <munki3> me too
[03:38] <munki3> :(
[03:38] <munki3> lol
[03:38] <Vom> :(
[03:38] <twisties> vom: I have my CD iso burned to a DVD and it works fine
[03:38] <Vom> Heh :b
[03:38] <Vom> twisties ah, thanks for your wisdom <3
[03:38] <fm> I opened a VNC session on a box on my local network, I can see the remote desktop, but I cannot move the mouse or type from my computer on the remote one... the server is "vino" I guess, and I use vncviewer as a client
[03:38] <munki3> nero wouldnt let me burn the iso to dvd-r
[03:38] <munki3> :S
[03:38] <twisties> vom: :)
[03:38] <falz> fm: are you sure the vnc server isn't set to a read only mode?
[03:38] <aimtrainer> Can anyone please tell me how to update alsa? ..running edgy
[03:38] <caci> MrMist: there's some config dialog for gnome volume manager. try gnome-volume<TAB> or something in a terminal
[03:38] <twisties> munki3: I'm using DVD-R and Nero 7
[03:39] <munki3> yup
[03:39] <caci> MrMist: sorry i don't know the precise name :-(
[03:39] <munki3> me too
[03:39] <tuskernini> zax1: i saw there are lots... just choose one with your needs...
[03:39] <munki3> well, until i installed this Ubuntu OS
[03:39] <munki3> lol
[03:39] <twisties> odd. Im not an iso or nero or dvd type expert so i'm clueless sorry
[03:39] <thomas_> where is XF86AudioMute defined ?
[03:39] <xopher> Hi! got a guide on how to beautifying gtk1 apps?
[03:39] <zax1> how do u stop this list command#
[03:39] <fm> falz: I think it isnt, chacked the "allow other users to control your desktop" box
[03:39] <zax1> its still running
[03:39] <fm> *checked
[03:40] <tuskernini> zax1: oops
[03:40] <zax1> the /list listthem all, can i do a search instead of a list ?
[03:40] <munki3> np, i burned it to a cd-rw that i had (i had to sacrifice the pr0n of me+my ex on it though)
[03:40] <munki3> :(
[03:40] <MrMist> caci: Yeah... found that one, but it doesn't seem to work :(
[03:40] <munki3> was saving all that for a rainy day
[03:40] <munki3> lol
[03:40] <tuskernini> zax1: try /join #openoffice.org
[03:40] <caci> MrMist: lol? it ignores yoour settings?
[03:41] <remssss> Il Neige
[03:41] <zax1> u r a sar :)
[03:41] <zax1> STAR even
[03:41] <tuskernini> zax1: that is there user help channel... pleasure
[03:42] <awad> hello! i'm trying to compile something here, but it fails. i'm on a fresh ubuntu linux installation. i heard somewhere that i might ahve to do an apt-get install kernel-source, but that command doesn't work...
[03:42] <twisties> munki3: Lol, thats what my 20gb mp3 player/external hdd are for ;)
[03:42] <twisties> is* for
[03:42] <b08y_> awad: what?
[03:42] <b08y_> awad: what do you try to compile`
[03:43] <awad> b08y_: aircrack-ng.org version 0.7
[03:43] <MrMist> caci: hmm... seems it's working when I put the CD into the drive... so autoplay is working
[03:43] <hexidigital_> i keep getting a kernel panic... something is VERY wrong here
[03:44] <munki3> i have a 400gb external and a 30gb zen, plus 60gb and 80gb 2.5" externals
[03:44] <thomas_> or maybe someone know what script is started at XF86AudioRaiseVolume
[03:44] <munki3> all except thezen i had to use to back up my other 'stuff'
[03:44] <MrMist> caci: But when I click the CD icon on the desktop, "sound-juicer" starts instead :S
[03:44] <munki3> didnt think about backing stuff up to the zen though
[03:44] <caci> MrMist: yes.. hmm
[03:44] <caci> MrMist: g-v-m does the autoplay part
[03:45] <awad> does anybody know why i can't compile this thing here on a fresh ubuntu installation? httpp://www.home.no/hedhnta/paste.txt
[03:45] <caci> MrMist: maybe you can set the preferred ripper for the file-manager in the CD's properties dialog
[03:45] <osum> does anybody knows where i can get earth wallpaper with 1280x104px ?
[03:45] <munki3> i wish i could use the zen under ubuntu
[03:45] <caci> MrMist: but i never did that
[03:45] <b08y_> awad: << looking
[03:45] <awad> osum: try deviantart.com
[03:45] <munki3> it's my primary use of my pc
[03:46] <munki3> :(
[03:46] <Vom> Ahh yeah
[03:46] <hexidigital_> when my server goes into kernel panic, i get the error:  CPU: 0; EIP: 0060:[<c0116139>] ; Tainted: P  VLI
[03:46] <b08y_> awad: plz use pastebin
[03:46] <Vom> One thing Id need assistance, truetype fonts?
[03:46] <b08y_> awad: that link doesnt work
[03:46] <mzuverink> munki3, I put stuff on my daugthers Zen with Ubuntu all the time, why cant you?
[03:46] <awad> http://www.home.no/hedhnta/paste.txt
[03:47] <munki3> it's a zen vision
[03:47] <munki3> that nomad thing doesnt recoignise it
[03:47] <mzuverink> munki3, have you tried amarok?
[03:47] <Vom> !ttf > vom
[03:47] <munki3> amarok?
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ttf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <munki3> no
[03:47] <munki3> :D
[03:47] <twisties> do you mean "use it" as in have the necessary software for transferring music available on linux?
[03:47] <twisties> or use it as a storage medium?
[03:48] <mzuverink> munki3, My daughters is a vision 30 gig, and amarok works for it
[03:48] <munki3> instaling amarok now
[03:48] <munki3> :D
[03:48] <hexidigital_> when my server goes into kernel panic, i get the error:  CPU: 0; EIP: 0060:[<c0116139>] ; Tainted: P  VLI  --- And now it won't boot
[03:48] <munki3> twisties: transfer music to it
[03:48] <Azul> why does ubuntu insist booting with a gui when it has poor gfx card detection?
[03:48] <thomas_> nobody an idea how i could poweroff my pcm channel
[03:48] <LjL> hexidigital_: doesn't that sound like a hardware problem?
[03:48] <munki3> will i need to install lame for amarok?
[03:49] <b08y_> awad: hmm, sec just tryiong somethin
[03:49] <hexidigital_> LjL: it doesn't?
[03:49] <twisties> ahh k. Was gonna say, mine works fine on the storage side of things. haven't bothered trying to transfer music.
[03:49] <awad> ok
[03:49] <osum> can opera gets the style of the actually gnome theme ?
[03:49] <awad> thanks man
[03:49] <Azul> munki3, you need to install a decoder, not an encoder
[03:49] <hexidigital_> LjL: now i'm getting unexpected IRQ trap at vector [random addresses]
[03:49] <Crescendo> Aww man my internet is mega slow!  Ubuntu seems to be taking forever to resolve a page, but once it does, most of the elements on the page download fast.  How can I troubleshoot this?
[03:49] <twisties> i'll always have a windows install for that
[03:49] <LjL> hexidigital_: well, i meant to say that it does, to me. though i can't really say... when does the boot stop?
[03:49] <Jowi> Azul, there is also the "alternative" ISO to download for a text only install
[03:50] <hexidigital_> LjL: random times
[03:50] <osum> i want opera in the style of my gnome theme
[03:50] <mamboadm> how do i remove a user?
[03:50] <LjL> hexidigital_: it used to work correctly before the first kernel panic?
[03:50] <LjL> mamboadm: deluser
[03:50] <Azul> Jowi, why do i have to download another 700 MB.. couldn't they make one cd that has gui and cli? i don't think it's hard
[03:50] <hexidigital_> LjL: i had uptime of months before yesterday
[03:50] <Azul> osum, then change the browser
[03:50] <Crescendo> Aww man my internet is mega slow!  Ubuntu seems to be taking forever to resolve a page, but once it does, most of the elements on the page download fast.  How can I troubleshoot this?
[03:50] <Crescendo> Whoops, my bad.
[03:50] <LjL> hexidigital_: did you upgrade or change anything significant?
[03:50] <Azul> cuz opera doesn't care
[03:51] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Crescendo about ipv6 | Crescendo, see the private message from Ubotu
[03:51] <hexidigital_> LjL: i did an aptitude upgrade today, it install flash, and a bunch of others
[03:51] <b08y_> awad: hmm, first get new src
[03:51] <ubuntu> siemka
[03:51] <LjL> hexidigital_: including libc?
[03:51] <awad> get new src?
[03:51] <hexidigital_> LjL: yes
[03:51] <awad> but this is the latest
[03:51] <ubuntu> yes
[03:51] <b08y_> awad: i mean fresh src
[03:51] <ubuntu> i from poland
[03:51] <LjL> hexidigital_: well, libc is quite significant. however, it still sounds to me more like a hardware problem. have you run a memtest?
[03:51] <munki3> hmmm, installed amarok, but confused as to how to 'mount' my creative zen
[03:51] <Crescendo> LjL, thanks - but why would it happen so suddenly?
[03:51] <hexidigital_> LjL: not yet
[03:52] <Crescendo> It's been doing this for just over a week now.
[03:52] <b08y_> awad: i want to be sure that u use the same version and files i am using
[03:52] <hexidigital_> i think i'm going to be sick
[03:52] <tuskernini> czeczt?
[03:52] <_Roman> HOw can I change the items that appear when I right click a file in nautilus (all the 'Open with ..' items)?
[03:52] <LjL> Crescendo: i don't know. it might just be your provider. however, having IPv6 enabled is known to cause the sort of behavior you described in some case. the fact that it started happening suddenly suggests against it, however
[03:52] <hexidigital_> LjL: how is libc significant?
[03:52] <gardar> I'm trying to uptade my ubuntu, but I get this message, what can I do?
[03:52] <Azul> munki3, there must be a howto on google
[03:52] <laz0r> highvoltz, anybody got an idea why my nfs-homes dont show up in /etc/mtab?
[03:52] <gardar> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-dev_2.4-1ubuntu12.2_i386.deb
[03:52] <gardar>   403 Forbidden [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[03:52] <Crescendo> We switched in a new router on the company network about this time, maybe the new router doesn't support IPv6?
[03:53] <LjL> hexidigital_: oh just in the sense that it's a library that almost everything else uses. still the kernel shouldn't crash that way - granted
[03:53] <tuskernini> zax1: http://www.bytebot.net/openoffice/faq.html
[03:53] <LjL> hexidigital_: i'd definitely run a memtest, and check the HD too
[03:53] <laz0r> highvoltz, ugh, sorry, tabcompletion...
[03:53] <munki3> Azul: thanks, looking now
[03:53] <munki3> :)
[03:53] <hexidigital_> LjL: running memtest now... thanks for your help :)
[03:53] <hexidigital_> as always
[03:54] <apachebcn> hi
[03:54] <LjL> hexidigital_: give memtester a try too - if you can manage to boot the system that far - since with one person it detected problems that memtest wouldn't detect (though i'm still unsure whether they were *actual* memory problems)
[03:54] <apachebcn> anybody have soundcard philips psc805 aurilium running in linux???
[03:54] <LjL> hexidigital_: (note that memtester is in general much less reliable that memtest86+, however it can detect problems with RAM that are only triggered by something your running kernel does)
[03:54] <hexidigital_> LjL: it wont even run memtest... keyboard and mouse started flashing
[03:55] <Jowi> Azul, I wouldn't know how hard it would be. maybe they have limited space on the CD. I do agree with you.
[03:55] <caci> MrMist: any results?
[03:55] <twisties> how'd you go munki3?
[03:55] <LjL> hexidigital_: run it from a live CD to make sure it's not a HD problem. still, that definitely seems to say your RAM is bad - or possibly something worse
[03:55] <laz0r> ok, let me paraphrase my question: is there a support channel for feisty?
[03:55] <MrMist> caci: nope... can't find anything
[03:55] <LjL> hexidigital_: but just try a CD (or a floppy, there is a floppy image too on the memtest86+ site)
[03:55] <apachebcn> alguien habla espaol?
[03:55] <hexidigital_> i have a live cd here
[03:56] <LjL> !es | apachebcn
[03:56] <ubotu> apachebcn: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:56] <caci> MrMist: so a CD-audio does not have "Open With" in its properties dialog?
[03:56] <twisties> How long is memtest supposed to take... roughly. <- 2gb DDR400
[03:56] <LjL> hexidigital_: http://www.memtest.org/#downiso anyway is the reference if you come to need it
[03:56] <MrMist> caci: nope... doesn't seem so...
[03:56] <twisties> I ran it and it ran for hours, so i rebooted
[03:56] <awad> b08y_: it's ok man nevermind
[03:56] <hexidigital_> thanks
[03:56] <hexidigital_> LjL: ^^
[03:56] <MrMist> you know... the cdrom is a device, not a file
[03:56] <LjL> twisties: it will take forever. people generally just stop it when they're "satisfied enough"
[03:56] <apachebcn> 4LjL thanks
[03:56] <caci> MrMist: that's sad and a usability bug :-(
[03:56] <b08y_> awad: well it works fine 4 me
[03:56] <laz0r> twisties, ~30 minutes
[03:57] <MrMist> caci: yeah... tell med about it
[03:57] <LjL> twisties: to test thoroughly, some days and nights are recommended. but to spot evident problems, 10 minutes will be more than enough. i'd usually suggest at least a hour if you're not too much in a hurry
[03:57] <laz0r> twisties, but it will loop when it finished
[03:57] <twisties> oh
[03:57] <twisties> that'd be it then
[03:57] <twisties> because everytime i looked the % was lower lol
[03:57] <tuskernini> does anyone know linux mint? it is ubuntu but with codecs...
[03:57] <LjL> !offtopic | tuskernini
[03:57] <ubotu> tuskernini: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:58] <LjL> tuskernini: i believe that codecs are not *too* hard to install in Ubuntu proper
[03:58] <twisties> Ok, all my other problems aside. How the hell do i change from my current kernel to a 64 bit one?
[03:58] <hexidigital_> LjL: memtest off a cd crashed as well... sounds like bad ram?
[03:58] <jedi> hello, i just ran ubuntu update manager.There was a dialog box at the end which read " Some packages could not be downloaded.Do you want to continue ignoring them" - or something similar to that. Help!
[03:58] <twisties> Im on an amd64
[03:58] <tuskernini> LjL: haha good one
[03:58] <beniamino> is there a way to add my customized stuff to whatever the system-wide xsession does?
[03:58] <beniamino> i need to run some scripts on login
[03:58] <MrMist> caci: Gotta work now, but thanks anyway :) I solved the autorun anyhow
[03:58] <Azul> what is ubuntu proper?
[03:59] <tuskernini> LjL: but it helps if you dont have a connection...
[03:59] <LjL> hexidigital_: that, or something else on the motherboard/CPU
[03:59] <hexidigital_> LjL: i think i never shouldve woken up today :)
[03:59] <hexidigital_> thank again
[03:59] <LjL> hexidigital_: open up the case, remove all the RAM, and reseat it back, making sure it's firmly in place. then run memtest again
[03:59] <jedi> What does that dialog box mean - in layaman's terms
[03:59] <hexidigital_> ok
[03:59] <tuskernini> Azul: the normal brown ubuntu version
[03:59] <cac_> hello room
[04:00] <LjL> hexidigital_: how many RAM sticks are in that machine?
[04:00] <mamboadm> does anybody have any idea about sympa?
[04:00] <thomas_> nobody a idea which script is called at putting down the volume level
[04:00] <cac_> http://www.sympa.org/features.html
[04:00] <jenda> Can someone point me at a good howto for doing encrypted flash drive partitions?
[04:01] <junk1> hi all just a fast ?? irrs how do i get to undernet an the ubuntu room?
[04:01] <hexidigital_> LjL: 2.. 1-1024 and 1 512
[04:01] <mamboadm> cac_: yeah i know about it i am having an install issue with configuring the webserver
[04:01] <LjL> jenda: there are several on help.ubuntu.com - i'm actually not sure why there are several
[04:02] <curious101> Hi! Can anyone point me to a URL where I can change Grub to Vista's boot loader?
[04:02] <jenda> LjL: oh well, I'll try poking through that again.
[04:02] <mamboadm> cac_: u know anything about it?
[04:02] <LjL> hexidigital_: well then if memtest still fails after the reseating, i'd obviously try removing the 512 one first, and if it still fails, putting it back and removing the 1gb one instead. sorry for the obviousness ;-) also didn't you by any chance happen to mess with the BIOS, or even just saw the "CMOS reset" message on boot?
[04:02] <Jowi> thomas_, from the command line you can use asoundconf (alsamixer for a text-mode gui or gnome-volume-control for a gnome version)
[04:02] <jenda> LjL: but thx
[04:03] <hexidigital_> LjL: i  havent tinkered with the CMOS since i built it
[04:03] <deg0nz> http://www.youtube.com/stream?s=1179649
[04:03] <cac_> I guess it is not possible since windows does not recognize linux operating system... but linux does recognize windows system so it is easier to have grub or lilo installed...
[04:03] <hexidigital_> LjL: obviousness is okay in my mad rage right now, btw :) brb
[04:03] <thomas_> Jowi, but i want to change the master channel
[04:03] <zehntagebart> my partitions (cryptdisk) are not mounted after reboot. anybody has an idea why? fstab shows for example/dev/mapper/home    /home
[04:03] <zehntagebart> and the /etc/crypttab shows      home     /dev/hda4
[04:03] <evian> I have 5 or 6 older versions of ubuntu in my grub menu, and all I really need now is the most recent. How do I get rid of the old ones?
[04:03] <curious101> oh i see
[04:03] <Crescendo> Nope, LjL - internet is still slow.
[04:03] <zehntagebart> but they are not mounted =(
[04:03] <zehntagebart> using ubuntu edgy
[04:04] <LjL> jenda, if you don't want to boot from it, this one is probably simple and good enough: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GPGKeyOnUSBDrive
[04:04] <thomas_> Jowi, because at the moment my master channel is pcm and so i just put down the pcm channel with pressing the volume down keys on my notebook
[04:04] <junk1> can any one tell me what i need to type in irrs to get to undernet an the room channel ubuntu?
[04:04] <curious101> i found one resource though, but you still have to reinstall Vista to overwrite the boot loader
[04:04] <twisties> edit your grub.conf file and comment out the unwanted entries? maybe, im not an expert
[04:05] <jenda> LjL: that doesn't do - it works with a file, not a partition.
[04:05] <junk1> ok never mind lol
[04:05] <curious101> @twisties, I meant replacing the Grub interface with Winloader
[04:05] <evian> thanks twisties, that would be one way, but then the kernels would still be on the hard drive, which is a bit of wasted space, I was thinking there was a way to do it with some apt related tools
[04:05] <munki3> anyone here willing to give a quick one-on-one
[04:05] <munki3> ?
[04:05] <twisties> curious101: could you do "fixmbr" from a recovery console? im not sure about Vista but you could do it from XP cd
[04:06] <cac_> firsly I install windows and then I install linux in order to catch windows partitions....
[04:06] <curious101> i haven't tried it yet. I might try it later. that's what I also found in google
[04:06] <cac_> since windows partition does not catch linux it is better to do this...
[04:06] <thomas_> Jowi, i think i have found what i was searching for
[04:06] <curious101> thanks twisties
[04:06] <Jowi> thomas_, hmmm.... "amixer sset PCM,0 50
[04:07] <curious101> any alternative ways?
[04:07] <twisties> that of course wont have your linux kernels in a boot menu but it will get rid of grub
[04:07] <munki3> i hve downloaded libmtp-0.1.3.tar.gz, aparently i need this for amarok to use my zen
[04:07] <munki3> what do i do with it
[04:07] <ademan> Synaptic is just a front end to apt-get right?  ( i mean it actually uses it, i know they essentially accomplish the same thing)
[04:08] <thomas_> Jowi, i think i have found a solution thx anyway
[04:08] <LjL> jenda, the point is whether you want to boot from it or not... if you don't, i don't think there's really much of a difference between a file and a partition -- and i suppose the howto uses a file just because it assumes you want to keep your flash key formatted as FAT with other stuff on it
[04:08] <stef> munki3: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199250
[04:08] <Jowi> thomas_, yeah, that worked. "amixer sset PCM,0 255" (volume 100%) - "amixer sset PCM,0 0" (volume 0%)
[04:08] <zehntagebart> :(
[04:09] <munki3> stef: thanks
[04:09] <twisties> evian: sorry, im not sur how to get rid of the kernels. but if you know how to install a different one then please help :)
[04:09] <munki3> btw you f or m?
[04:09] <stef> m
[04:09] <munki3> :)
[04:09] <munki3> k
[04:09] <jenda> LjL: no, no booting. But i want a 2 Gig ext3 partition, and that howto dos'nt help me do that - however, this seems to be of some help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[04:09] <jenda> LjL: Unless it boils down to luks, which I know doesn't work.
[04:09] <zehntagebart> jenda, booting problems?
[04:09] <ehird> blah, i just ruined boot camp trying to install ubuntu
[04:10] <jenda> zehntagebart: no :)
[04:10] <ehird> more accurately, i have 32gb of unclaimable space, and boot camp won't run again
[04:10] <zehntagebart> but me =(