[07:23] <adriyel> kevogod, because I like helping people. nalioth final
[07:23] <nalioth> kevogod: he's fine here
[07:23] <darren> hi, im having trouble getting winXP to boot with grub on a Dell inspiron 8600. I think there's an 8MB Dell partition at the beginning of the disk that is making things difficult
[07:23] <adriyel> I've reburnt the iso 5 times nalioth, all with a redownload
[07:23] <darren> root(hd0,0) returns "Unknown partition type 0xF"
[07:24] <kevogod> Did you verify the ISO? (just checking)
[07:24] <GregAsche> is eog crashing every time for anyone else?
[07:24] <darren> and the WinXP partition i a logical partition, not a primary
[07:24] <GregAsche> fresh breezy install and it just won't stay open
[07:24] <adriyel> kevogod, yes, I md5'ed it. every single time.
[07:24] <kingright> can BitTornado d/l more then one file at a time?
[07:24] <paulproteus> I've heard good things about Linspire, actually.
[07:24] <adriyel> well, every single time after the first time kevogod
[07:24] <nalioth> adriyel: you burnt it at 1x?
[07:24] <adriyel> paulproteus, feel free to try it
[07:24] <adriyel> nalioth, I tried it @ 40, 32, 12, then 1.
[07:24] <kevogod> paulproteus, I've heard mixed things about it.
[07:25] <newbie_at_linux> some of my xfce software went to the gnome menu!! is this normal??
[07:25] <nalioth> adriyel: perhaps a hoary install and then upgrade
[07:25] <kingright> can BitTornado d/l more then one file at a time???
[07:25] <nalioth> newbie_at_linux: it's fine
[07:25] <nalioth> kingright: you'll need to start a new instance
[07:25] <GregAsche> no one?
[07:25] <kingright> how do i do that?
[07:25] <theplateau> yea sometimes i enjoy mixing the desktop environments
[07:25] <newbie_at_linux> nalioth: is that supposed to happen?
[07:25] <paulproteus> adriyel: I may, now that VMWare costs no money.  QEMU is still way slow.
[07:25] <darren> where are the w32codecs, etc? I have breezy-extras added, but most packages I had from hoary aren't there
[07:26] <rony> paulproteus, huh?
[07:26] <jordan> grrrrrrrrr - I HATE WINE!!!
[07:26] <adriyel> nalioth, I question the gracefulness of an upgrade as opposed to a fresh install
[07:26] <rony> paulproteus, I don't think so
[07:26] <newbie_at_linux> How can I uninstall software that was installed from a .run file
[07:26] <nalioth> newbie_at_linux: it happens to all of us, install kubuntu-desktop and you'll have kde/gnome/and xfce4 stuff in your menus
[07:26] <paulproteus> rony: You don't think so for what?
[07:26] <kevogod> My major complaint with Linspire is that it does not scare users out of using the root user as a full time account.
[07:26] <kingright> ok i got it
[07:26] <adriyel> nalioth, besides, I follow the "just works" philosophy. Until Blag fails/breaks on me, it stays where it is
[07:26] <paulproteus> rony: Google for VMWare Player for a free-as-in-beer VMWare.
[07:26] <rony> paulproteus, There is a free player but VMware costs money
[07:27] <paulproteus> rony: The "player" can play images created using a script on the QEMU mailing list.
[07:27] <rony> paulproteus, Yeah but the player ISN'T a full version of VMEare
[07:27] <adriyel> paulproteus, please, don't touch linspire, it has briars and thorns :)
[07:27] <paulproteus> So, really, it can do all I want - emulate a PC for simple running of VMs.
[07:27] <newbie_at_linux> nalioth : didnt know kubuntu could be installed in ubuntu will it be exactly the same as kubuntu when i use it?
[07:27] <adriyel> newbie_at_linux, if you config it to use kdm and kde, for all intents and purposes, it will be the same yes
[07:28] <paulproteus> Good night, all. :)
[07:29] <nalioth> newbie_at_linux: x/k/ubuntu are all the same underneath
[07:29] <adriyel> same framework
[07:32] !lilo:*! FYI, a new channel has been opened: ##physicaltherapy .... it's for folk who are undergoing physical therapy for rehabilitation after injuries, etc.... a place to compare notes. If the subject matter is germane, please stop by. Thanks.
[07:32] <YokoZar> What language is the word "ubuntu" from?
[07:33] <YokoZar> All I can glean from the web is it's "African"
[07:34] <GregAsche> Zulu and Xhosa languages
[07:34] <YokoZar> Thanks.  I'm heading off to South Africa for study abroad and decided to learn Sotho while I'm there, heh.
[07:35] <GregAsche> cool
[07:35] <YokoZar> Maybe I'll run into Mr. Shuttleworth at Cape Town ;)
[07:36] <adriyel> ah yes
[07:36] <adriyel> the bdfl.
[07:36] <YokoZar> the what
[07:37] <adriyel> benevolent dictator for life
[07:37] <adriyel> aka shuttleworth, aka torvalds.
[07:37] <adriyel> you need to read the dev mailing list for ubuntu ;)
[07:37] <YokoZar> He's not a benevolent dictator for life, he's a benevolent sugar daddy
[07:37] <adriyel> lol.
[07:37] <adriyel> you should see his irc name
[07:37] <adriyel> its that acronym
[07:38] <adriyel> (its yabdfl right?  Breezy!
[07:43] <davidmccabe> Thank you all who helped.
[07:44] <YokoZar> kevogod: Microsoft is buying mercenary soldiers and staging in Angola to defend against the wave of Ubuntu volunteers sweeping the SACU
[07:44] <lsald> nalioth, i am not 386, ppc
[07:45] <nalioth> lsald: d'oh, adriyel is confusing the stuffing out of me
[07:45] <adriyel> YES!
[07:45] <adriyel> my day is done.
[07:45] <nalioth> lsald: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPPC
[07:46] <lsald> nalioth, right, that was what i was refering to
[07:46] <lsald> the java-package is not there
[07:47] <linux-noob> does ubuntu have a boot flopy
[07:47] <lsald> nalioth, but i just found that java is haging out in multiverse with a new name
[07:47] <Kream> sa in bdfl is self-appointed not south african, adriyel
[07:47] <linux-noob> can anyone help a NOOB
[07:48] <andrew> if i'm using mergedfb with the open-source radeon driver, is dri unsupported? does that mean that my video playback cannot be hardware-accelerated?
[07:48] <nalioth> lsald: use the ibm java
[07:48] <nalioth> linux-noob: it does not have a boot floppy
[07:49] <adriyel> Kream, its generally thought of as self-appointed and thats why I initially explained it as such, however on rare occaisions its been used as south african
[07:49] <dmlinux> In winblows how do i determine WHICH video card my girlfriend has in her laptop, it only says MOBILITY RADEON. thats it.. i need to know if its upgradeable
[07:49] <linux-noob> humm well what do you do is you have a fujitsu P1110 that has a USB cdrome that will not boot the CD ??
[07:49] <surfdue_> cam someone give me an ideal sources.lists
[07:49] <Kream> ah
[07:50] <surfdue_> list*
[07:50] <Kream> i stand corrected
[07:50] <surfdue_> please
[07:50] <surfdue_> !sources
[07:50] <ubotu> from memory, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[07:50] <kevogod> Kream, I have never heard someone use South African.
[07:50] <Kream> kevogod:  me either. but then again, i'm just a gentoo-ricer :)
[07:50] <davidmccabe> Why o why would xorg be using %50 of CPU continually after I enable nvidia glx and restarted X?
[07:51] <linux-noob> humm well what do you do is you have a fujitsu P1110 that has a USB cdrome that will not boot the CD ??
[07:51] <kevogod> Kream, I'm a Yggdrasiller myself.
[07:52] <adriyel> ...
[07:52] <adriyel> ricers, egg crap. african nationalists
[07:52] <adriyel> ubuntu is starting to feel like a B movie
[07:52] <adriyel> like plan 9 or something.
[07:52] <kevogod> or Doom
[07:52] <adriyel> that too.
[07:52] <Kream> not to mention fedora wearers
[07:52] <adriyel> lol. bugger off.
[07:52] <adriyel> I am a blagger
[07:53] <Kream> :)
[07:53] <linux-noob> humm well what do you do is you have a fujitsu P1110 that has a USB cdrome that will not boot the CD ??
[07:53] <adriyel> kevogod, Yggdrasil? thats old isn't it?
[07:53] <Kream> very old
[07:53] <kevogod> It was a joke.
[07:53] <Kream> slackware vintage
[07:53] <Kream> ah
[07:53] <adriyel> sigh, old fogie.
[07:53] <adriyel> slackware IS vintage :P
[07:53] <adriyel> only distro that doesn't recognize my network
[07:53] <adriyel> aight guys, I g2g, I'll ttyl
[07:53] <lsald> hey now, if they had a slack ppc i'd be all over it
[07:54] <adriyel> nightie
[07:54] <adriyel> lsald, I think they do man
[07:54] <bored2k> does anybody know how to compile CVS Mplayers with a built-in Skin ?
[07:55] <Valen> i'm trying to get ubuntu to install to a hdd on an initio a100u2w scsi card anybody know where i could a) find a module for it and b) some how to or something for how to load it and use it?
[07:55] <Valen> 5.10 btw
[07:55] <treitter> is there anywhere to look up how each package was compiled?
[07:57] <crimsun> treitter: apt-get source <package> && more package-version/debian/rules
[08:00] <ubuntu> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[08:01] <slyjab> i just installed kubuntu ... when i log off my yahoo sound file start playing until the system shuts down....any ideas??????/
[08:02] <[Chameleon] > slyjab: check the sound events config
[08:02] <YokoZar> How do I change the ports bittorrent uses?
[08:03] <slyjab> chameleon: where do i find it?
[08:03] <linux-noob> IS there a way to install ubunto without a cd ??????????
[08:03] <Parisi> Yes.
[08:03] <[Chameleon] > slyjab: somewhere in the KDE configuration app I assume... I don't know exactly, I use GNOME.
[08:03] <linux-noob> HOW ?
[08:03] <Parisi> Plenty of ways.
[08:03] <linux-noob> PLease let me know HOW
[08:03] <NoUse> linux-noob I think you need more question marks
[08:04] <Parisi> You could do a network install.
[08:04] <linux-noob> yah i am loking fora network install
[08:04] <Parisi> You could do a install from within another distro.
[08:04] <treitter> crimsun: that gives me:
[08:04] <treitter> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[08:04] <Parisi> linux-noob Try googling it, check at ubuntu site as well.
[08:05] <crimsun> treitter: you must not have the deb-src line for main enabled
[08:05] <treitter> crimsun: it's in there :)
[08:05] <treitter> tried both the local mirror and that official repo
[08:06] <crimsun> treitter: /join #flood, paste the output of apt-cache madison <package>
[08:06] <Mark> what video player plugin for firefox do people use?
[08:06] <Toma-> Mark: the mplayer one
[08:08] <linux-noob> Parisi: umm i have googled it like crazy
[08:08] <treitter> crimsun: same error
[08:08] <Mark> toma: mozplugger or mozilla-mplayer?
[08:08] <linux-noob> Parisi and looked on the page
[08:08] <Toma-> mozilla-mplayer
[08:09] <Parisi> linux-noob I would try a different distro for that type of install, mandrake ?
[08:09] <kevogod> Gentoo
[08:09] <kevogod> heh
[08:09] <Parisi> linux-noob Why no cd? I dont think ubuntu is nocd friendly
[08:09] <linux-noob> Parisi I hade mandrake but it did not like the screen
[08:10] <Parisi> linux-noob Why cant you install from a cd?
[08:10] <Parisi> cdroms are cheap $10
[08:10] <crimsun> treitter: paste precisely what you typed in and what was returned
[08:10] <linux-noob> Parisi: every time i moved the mouse is made little black boxis of pixels on the screen
[08:10] <Parisi> linux-noob That does not say much really.
[08:11] <treitter> crimsun: $ apt-get source libvte4
[08:11] <Parisi> linux-noob You might just had bad luck.
[08:11] <linux-noob> Parisi:Humm well i am a noob at this
[08:11] <treitter> crimsun: (for the first error)
[08:11] <Parisi> linux-noob Get a cdrom and a cd and boot from it.
[08:11] <treitter> crimsun: apt-cache madison libvte4 -> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[08:11] <kevogod> linux-noob, Ubuntu's installer requires the use of a keyboard. Do you have a keyboard?
[08:12] <linux-noob> Parisi: I would But i have a Fujitse P110 laptop and it does not have a cdron slot because it is to small
[08:12] <Parisi> linux-noob If thats not an option you could try booting debian from floppies and then upgrade to Ubuntu from there, but its soooo much work, is it really worh it ?
[08:12] <linux-noob> Parisi : it is only 2.2 LBS
[08:12] <mllr> sudo apt-get install mplayer-amd64  "mplayer-amd64 is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded." What's the deal?
[08:12] <kevogod> They do make external CD-Roms
[08:12] <Parisi> linux-noob Then use any device that you can boot from.
[08:13] <Parisi> linux-noob a external cdrom works
[08:13] <crimsun> treitter: if you have the deb-src line enabled, you wouldn't get that error.
[08:13] <linux-noob> Parisi; and i bought a USB cdr and it does not soport is when ther is no OS
[08:13] <kevogod> linux-noob, Check your BIOS settings
[08:13] <Parisi> linux-noob Hmm, i see, thats tricky configuration
[08:14] <Parisi> How did you get mandrake to work?
[08:14] <linux-noob> Parisi ; YAH I DID AND THEY ARE SET ON TO BOOT FROME USB, my usb flopy boots just fime
[08:14] <mojo> Hey, anyone good with the umask stuff?  I want to mount a couple vfat shares, and want users in a group to have read/write to one and read-only to the other.
[08:14] <treitter> crimsun: I've got "deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[08:14] <treitter> " in my sources.list
[08:14] <Parisi> I usually stick with the default software and OS for those, not worth my time.
[08:14] <Parisi> I would get an apple if i went mobile for that same reason.
[08:15] <linux-noob> Parisi ; Well if i hade the money i would
[08:15] <Parisi> linux-noob Sell it.
[08:15] <Parisi> ; )
[08:15] <kevogod> linux-noob, You should have directed your CAPS frenzy at me instead of Parisi.
[08:15] <Parisi> Hah
[08:16] <linux-noob> my bad
[08:16] <Parisi> Its my turn to sleep now, i am pulling a double shift tomorrow, nite all.
[08:16] <crimsun> treitter: have you updated?
[08:16] <Parisi> linux-noob good luck :)
[08:16] <linux-noob> pepsi thanks
[08:16] <linux-noob> Parisi thanks
[08:16] <Madpilot> has anyone used the ATI drivers from ATI's website to get 3d in Breezy?
[08:17] <kevogod> Madpilot, Use repositories?
[08:17] <mojo> maddler: nope, just the ones from universe (or is it multiverse?)
[08:17] <treitter> crimsun: that did it. Thanks!
[08:17] <mojo> maddler: but they are the ATI ones from ATI, only packaged up for Ubuntu
[08:17] <kevogod> Madpilot, The last time I tried them from ATI's site in Hoary, it did not work very well.
[08:18] <treitter> crimsun: so the update-manager doesn't perform apt-get update on its own?
[08:18] <mojo> maddler: they are called xorg-fglrx in breezy repositories
[08:18] <kevogod> Call him Madpilot :P
[08:18] <mojo> maddler: as opposed to the xorg-ati which is the opensource ones
[08:18] <Madpilot> mojo: I've got those, and they aren't running on my 9600XT; there's a thread on the forums about using the website ones
[08:18] <Madpilot> mojo: watch your tab completion on nicknames
[08:19] <mojo> maddler: oh, okay.  I am 9800XT
[08:19] <crimsun> treitter: I use aptitude generally.
[08:19] <mojo> Madpilot: oh, so sorry!
[08:19] <mojo> maddler: sry man
[08:19] <kevogod> ...
[08:19] <Madpilot> kevogod: I've tried the repo ones, redone the configs a couple of times, and still no 3d...
[08:20] <kevogod> Madpilot, You used sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and chose the fglrx driver?
[08:20] <locomorto> mojo: i thought it was xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[08:20] <kevogod> Madpilot, I do not believe fglrxconfig works.
[08:20] <mojo> locomorto: u may b right, i was going from memory
[08:21] <Madpilot> kevogod: hmmm... I don't think I've done the dpkg route yet, I'll try that before i fool around with the website drivers...
[08:21] <treitter> crimsun: synaptic also recommends an update after a certain number of days, but it hasn't prompted me in a while
[08:21] <kevogod> Madpilot, This is how I got 3D in breezy. It worked quite well.
[08:21] <kevogod> Madpilot, It was only a matter of selecting fglrx out of the driver list.
[08:21] <nalioth> treitter: that means there are no updates
[08:22] <badei> i got firestarter
[08:22] <Madpilot> kevogod: with the dpkg-reconfigure require a restart of the computer?
[08:22] <YokoZar> Hmm, running gnome-btdownload with the --minport xxx switch is breaking it
[08:22] <nalioth> Madpilot: ?
[08:22] <mojo> Madpilot: yeah, locomorto is right.  xorg-driver-fglrx.  I also have fglrx-control installed.  Both say they're in breezy repo.
[08:22] <kevogod> Madpilot, It may require restarting something.
[08:22] <nalioth> Madpilot: the only time you need to restart (and you dont HAVE to) is when you upgrade your kernel
[08:23] <Madpilot> nalioth: 3d drivers seem to be the other reason... :(
[08:23] <nalioth> Madpilot: when you change your video options, you just need to restart x
[08:23] <badei> I don't know how to share my dial up connection. I already got firestarter!!! pls help me
[08:23] <mojo> kevogod: can't he ctrl-alt-bs after logging out to gdm login?
[08:23] <kevogod> Restarting X is just as bad as restarting your computer. :P
[08:23] <speedlab> hi ppl
[08:23] <[Chameleon] > kevogod: no it's not
[08:23] <mojo> lol
[08:23] <nalioth> kevogod: not if you use screen and terminals
[08:23] <[Chameleon] > kevogod: X loads fast enough
[08:23] <kevogod> User applications close
[08:24] <[Chameleon] > kevogod: oh well
[08:24] <[Chameleon] > kevogod: save work
[08:24] <speedlab> Whats the best way to test if a apt upgrade from hoary to breezy worked?
[08:24] <[Chameleon] > kevogod: use the SessionSaver Firefox Extension
[08:24] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: use it
[08:24] <kevogod> [Chameleon] , I don't use Firefox
[08:24] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: try booting
[08:24] <speedlab> I do have a diff background and what not now.. And things seem ok..
[08:24] <mojo> bob2: if u r still here, i got that freenx stuff working great.  you were a huge help earler
[08:24] <[Chameleon] > kevogod: what do you use?
[08:25] <kevogod> [Chameleon] , Epiphany... although that already saves sessions.
[08:25] <[Chameleon] > kevogod: ah, nice
[08:25] <[Chameleon] > I haven't used epiphany since Red Hat 8
[08:25] <speedlab> [Chameleon] , what about some form of cli verification?
[08:25] <kevogod> [Chameleon] , You should try it again. It is pretty nice and has some extensions.
[08:25] <trans_err> has any had any luck with getting quake4 to work?
[08:26] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: dude, sounds to me like it works.
[08:26] <kevogod> Although I am not one to obsess over extensions such as AdBlock and the like.
[08:26] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: how 'bout `uname -a`
[08:26] <[Chameleon] > he
[08:26] <[Chameleon] > hehe
[08:26] <speedlab> [Chameleon] , we that was just too easy then
[08:26] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: nice when stuff just works, eh?
[08:26] <speedlab> 2.6.10-5 sound like the latest?
[08:27] <el-stupido> where do i look for logs for my game?
[08:27] <crimsun> 2.6.10-5 is Hoary's
[08:27] <[Chameleon] > 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8
[08:27] <speedlab> hmm
[08:27] <crimsun> 2.6.12-9 is Breezy's
[08:27] <speedlab> thought as much
[08:28] <speedlab> perhaps grub just needs updating
[08:28] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: check on grub
[08:28] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: yeah
[08:28] <locomorto> yeah what happend to the boot thingy in breezy?
[08:28] <[Chameleon] > locomorto: dunno... I know it had a couple bugs, probably was pulled at the last minute
[08:28] <crimsun> "boot thing"?
[08:30] <speedlab> [Chameleon] , there is nothing new in grub, shouldnt that have been updated when the new kernel was installed?
[08:30] <speedlab> dunno if I should do it manually
[08:31] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: do you have new kernels in /boot ?
[08:31] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: maybe they weren't installed...
[08:31] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: you can just install them now
[08:31] <Madpilot> what's the command to kill and restart X again?
[08:32] <[Chameleon] > Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[08:32] <speedlab> looks like it buggered it up.. no new kernels and only half he packages have been updates
[08:32] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: hmm... sucky
[08:32] <Madpilot> [Chameleon] : thanks... back in a bit, hopefully with 3d!
[08:32] <[Chameleon] > speedlab: I heard of that happening
[08:32] <speedlab> ill just grab the iso and go from scratch.. nothing important on this box anyway..
[08:34] <speedlab> ill be back.. next time hopefully in breezy ;)
[08:34] <Madpilot> damn, dpkg-reconfigure xorg-whatever didn't work, I'm still stuck with the Mesa drivers... bleh
[08:35] <iceman64> ok, help please, cant seem to get the full KDE packages to download
[08:37] <treitter> crimsun: the debian/rules file seems to specify a few configure-time options, but what about compiler flags? Are those just unrecoverable?
[08:38] <zyzzyr> wow, packed channel
[08:39] <iceman64> help on install kde please
[08:40] <synthetic_fenix> anyone got proftpd running as an anonymous server?
[08:40] <iceman64> i need help installing kde and xmms on breezy ... please
[08:40] <cychem1> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:41] <daloydoy> do u entertain newbies here?
[08:41] <daloydoy_> do u entertain newbies here?
[08:41] <iceman64> i did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop seem there are packages missing
[08:41] <cychem1> get a drink and a sandwich it will take awhile
[08:41] <cychem1> which ones
[08:41] <iceman64> where can i paste to you
[08:42] <sorsis> where i can see TODO for ubuntu so i could help with ubuntu?
[08:42] <daloydoy_> how can i install skype??? there are dependency problems when i install
[08:42] <synthetic_fenix> anyone wanna help me with setting up an anonymous ftp server?
[08:42] <daloydoy_> dpkg -i skype.....
[08:42] <daloydoy_> any help please
[08:43] <cevizoglu> daloydoy, yeah, we entertain newbies... with chatter
[08:43] <slyjab> daloyboy: what are the dependency probs?
[08:44] <daloydoy_> kype depends on libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1); however:
[08:44] <daloydoy_>   Package libstdc++5 is not installed.
[08:45] <slyjab> download that file from the universe
[08:45] <daloydoy_> how will i do that? do i have to add the url in my apt source-list?
[08:45] <slyjab> go to root
[08:46] <slyjab> type in apt-get install <filename>
[08:46] <synthetic_fenix> anyone running an FTP server under ubuntu?
[08:47] <iceman64> can i apt -get two thing at one time
[08:47] <daloydoy> slylab: have done that to no avail... anything more missing?
[08:47] <cychem1> iceman just send me text file
[08:47] <zyzzyr> dalydoy: there are instructions for skype installation in the first post here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75107&highlight=skype
[08:47] <svijaykr> Hi. I have a problem with closing the lid on the laptop. The screen just blanks.
[08:47] <PuppetMaster> hi everybody
[08:48] <zyzzyr> dalydoy: will tell you what other packages you need to install, too
[08:48] <PuppetMaster> i want to know hot to install the w32codecs for mplayer? :) Could anyone help me?!
[08:48] <svijaykr> Any idea what I need to do ? I am using the vesa driver
[08:48] <slyjab> apt commands are here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[08:48] <iceman64> cycheml it's downloading the kubuntu-desktop packages again .. let me see what come up
[08:48] <daloydoy> zyzzyr: thank you... one thing more... what about my totem? can't play videos... have install totem-xine before in ubuntu and its working... now in breezy no more
[08:48] <zyzzyr> dalydoy: also here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77189
[08:48] <cychem1> ok
[08:48] <iceman64> 60% done
[08:49] <zyzzyr> dalydoy: what kinds of movies?
[08:49] <slyjab> iceman yes you can get more than one file from apt... just leave a space between filenames
[08:49] <zyzzyr> daloydoy that is even ;)
[08:49] <iceman64> cycheml can i run multi sessions of apt-get one for kde and another for xmms
[08:49] <daloydoy> zyzzyr: avi, mpg
[08:49] <cychem1> yes just use different terminals
[08:50] <iceman64> ty ..
[08:50] <zyzzyr> daloydoy you need to install the right codecs, such as the "w32codecs" package
[08:51] <PuppetMaster> zyzzyr, how can i install the w32codecs package?
[08:51] <gilbert_> how to install yahoo messenger in ubuntu
[08:51] <zyzzyr> daloydoy: have you read the ubuntu 5.10 starter guide in the System->Help?  I think (but I'm not sure) that that question is answered there
[08:51] <gilbert_> i used dpkg -i *.deb
[08:51] <gilbert_> but hav dependencies
[08:51] <Chameleon22> hi all
[08:52] <Chameleon22> i am configuring nagios and noticed that when I break something ... eg status critical , alert mail/sms send mail messages get frozen in the mail queue. So for example message comes in ... 9m  1.5K 1ETD4E-0005i0-1v<EMAIL_ADDRESS> but after a while from email address gets deleted and message frozen:  1ETD4E-0005i0-1v <> *** frozen ***  and ideas why this is happening?
[08:52] <slyjab> gilbert: you have to get the dependencies from universe
[08:52] <zyzzyr> PuppetMaster: If you have your repositories configured correctly, I believe it's simply "sudo apt-get install w32codecs" - I believe it's in multiverse (?)
[08:52] <daloydoy> yes... haven't scanned the thread yet this is very new installation... about a few mins ago
[08:53] <shane86> anyone know the basic text editor in kubuntu?
[08:53] <spritey> hi@all
[08:53] <slyjab> yahoos linux version isn't worth using....its too primitive
[08:53] <gilbert_> slyjab dependencies
[08:53] <cevizoglu> zyzzyr, no, w32codecs aren't in multiverse or universe
[08:53] <zyzzyr> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs should answer the w32codecs q - although that guide pertains to hoary, it is still (mostly) true for breezy
[08:53] <[Chameleon] > shane86: probably kate
[08:53] <yi_> hey, can you get a full shell from the breezy install cd?
[08:53] <PuppetMaster> zyzzyr, i use breezy now... can you tell me witch is the corret line for multiserve??? ... i idid apt-get install w32.... but didnt work :s
[08:53] <yi_> i need to chroot and run grub-install
[08:54] <[Chameleon] > yi_: try Ctrl-Alt-Fn where n = 1-12
[08:54] <gilbert_> depends: libgdk-pixbuf2
[08:54] <[Chameleon] > yi_: one of them should be a shell
[08:54] <cevizoglu> PuppetMaster, go to the codecs link for the w32 repository
[08:54] <synthetic_fenix> HELP ME PLEASE!
[08:54] <zyzzyr> cevizoglu: huh i can't recall where i got them from.  possibly I downloaded them from the hoary repositories somewhere
[08:54] <shane86> [Chameleon] : i can't seem to get kate to work with xorg.conf - it doesn't want to let me run from konsole - even as root
[08:54] <spritey> i made a inet-dist-upgrade to breezy. this destroy somehow my gdm. i'm not able to insert my password. as soon as i try this gdm is dead ...
[08:54] <shane86> [Chameleon] : so i was wondering if there was something else
[08:54] <spritey> anyone a idea
[08:54] <yi_> [Chameleon] : it gives me a busybox shell
[08:55] <[Chameleon] > shane86: just use vi
[08:55] <yi_> which i don't think is enough
[08:55] <cevizoglu> zyzzyr, here is one: deb http://tinyurl.com/87ofx etch main
[08:55] <[Chameleon] > yi_: hmm, I dunno then.
[08:55] <yi_> the livecd
[08:55] <yi_> should let me chroot no?
[08:55] <[Chameleon] > yi_: possibly
[08:55] <iceman64> 81 %
[08:55] <cevizoglu> yi_ yes
[08:55] <Mark> is anyone able to watch the latest quicktime stuff off of apple's website?
[08:55] <PuppetMaster> cevizoglu, you say to write the line in source.list?? (sorry i use linux since a few days)
[08:55] <shane86> [Chameleon] : how do i save changes with vi?
[08:55] <iceman64> whats still not workning in 64 bit ...
[08:55] <cevizoglu> Mark, no
[08:55] <daloydoy> zyzzyr: what particular repositories will i add in the stock config of apt-source-list in breezy?
[08:56] <zyzzyr> this could also work, though it's using dpkg directly and not apt: 'wget ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb'
[08:56] <zyzzyr> ..and..
[08:56] <zyzzyr> 'sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb'
[08:56] <synthetic_fenix> anyone wanna help me with my ftp server problem before i check myself into a mental institution
[08:56] <cevizoglu> PuppetMaster, yes, add it to sources.list... but comment it out when you're done... you don't want etch to stay in there
[08:56] <symsy> Shadowline- :qw for quitting and exit
[08:56] <cychem1> shane86 :wq!
[08:56] <shane86> thanks
[08:56] <[Chameleon] > shane86: escape, :x
[08:56] <cevizoglu> synthetic_fenix, no one can help you because you never gave a clear description of your problem
[08:56] <PuppetMaster> cevizoglu, ok
[08:57] <PuppetMaster> zyzzyr, thanx
[08:57] <synthetic_fenix> ok
[08:57] <[Chameleon] > shane86: :x  ==  :wq
[08:57] <nalioth> cevizoglu: look again, the wiki has changed
[08:57] <synthetic_fenix> im trying to setup an anonymous ftp server
[08:57] <iceman64> you still have to go in a back step 64 bit to run flash
[08:57] <zyzzyr> daloydoy: Using synaptic you can configure your repositories ... choose "show hidden", then enable the hidden ones - then you could edit the file too to include multiverse from the same place you get universe (if it's not included as hidden, can't recall)
[08:57] <iceman64> or has flash been patched yet
[08:57] <Mark> I can get vlc to play the latest quicktime movies, but the firefox vlc plugin doesn't load the file
[08:57] <dmlinux> is there any Video card power managment in linux? like POWERPLAY like in Winblowz
[08:57] <synthetic_fenix> when i goto try and access it from another computer in my local lan (No firewall in the way) it comes up and asks for username and password
[08:58] <synthetic_fenix> i select in IE to login anonymously and put in my e-mail address
[08:58] <spritey> noone with the same problem?
[08:58] <svijaykr> any help for my laptop lid suspend problem ?
[08:58] <synthetic_fenix> the logon prompt pops right back up, i even used smart ftp and it give me error 550
[08:58] <iceman64> Cool cool ... got the sessions manager and the kde packages it looks like
[08:58] <dmlinux> synthetic_fenix i had the same problem, i beleive to fix it use YOUR Username and YOUR password, for linux
[08:59] <iceman64> was there a broken link a few days ago for kde
[08:59] <cychem1> ????
[08:59] <synthetic_fenix> dmlinux, that negates the purpose of anonymous ftp
[08:59] <cevizoglu> PuppetMaster, ugh, don't use etch... go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats and read the part on w32codecs
[08:59] <dmlinux> synthetic_fenix oh i must of missed half of the convo :( sorry
[08:59] <synthetic_fenix> its ok
[09:00] <iceman64> cycheml tried to get kde several days ago and it missed some packages .. today .. went right in ..
[09:00] <nalioth> cevizoglu: the wiki no longer has 'include debian repos' in it for w32codecs
[09:00] <cevizoglu> nalioth, yes, I just saw that
[09:00] <iceman64> cool now to get xmms
[09:00] <PuppetMaster> cevizoglu, thanx!!
[09:00] <dmlinux> later all
[09:00] <svijaykr> actually I have a problem with audio as well - intel 915 on board audio. lsmod shows the module loaded. esd is running ..but no sound comes out
[09:00] <Bieleke> hi guys
[09:00] <cychem1> Great its probably the government spying on you :)
[09:00] <Bieleke> question...
[09:00] <zyzzyr> cevizoglu: that's a good link ;)
[09:01] <[Chameleon] > cychem1: LOL
[09:01] <Bieleke> oooqs-gnome, not available ?
[09:01] <[Chameleon] > svijaykr: killall esd and try again
[09:01] <[Chameleon] > svijaykr: what app are you trying to use?
[09:01] <Myrtti> cychem1: nothing new there
[09:01] <iceman64> god my system hates winblows .... works fine under linux ... must say something about linux ...
[09:01] <gilbert_> my g++ <IP_ADDRESS>-1 its broken and its mark by red how can i repair it?
[09:01] <gilbert_> my g++ <IP_ADDRESS>-1 its broken and its mark by red how can i repair it?
[09:01] <Chameleon22> i am configuring nagios and noticed that when I break something ... eg status critical , alert mail/sms send mail messages get frozen in the mail queue. So for example message comes in ... 9m  1.5K 1ETD4E-0005i0-1v<EMAIL_ADDRESS> but after a while from email address gets deleted and message frozen:  1ETD4E-0005i0-1v <> *** frozen ***  and ideas why this is happening?
[09:01] <synthetic_fenix> im tring to setup and anonymous ftp server, when i goto try and access it from another computer in my local lan (no firewall in the way) it comes up and askes for a username and password, i select in IE to login anonymously and put in my e-mail address, then logon prompt pops right back up, and i even tried with smartftp and it gives me error 550 anyone got any ideas?
[09:01] <gilbert_> also g++3.3
[09:01] <gilbert_> my g++ <IP_ADDRESS>-1 its broken and its mark by red how can i repair it?
[09:02] <gilbert_> my g++ <IP_ADDRESS>-1 its broken and its mark by red how can i repair it?
[09:02] <iceman64> well now time to see if i can start kde
[09:02] <cychem1> Just because you don't think there are out to get you doesnt mean they are not
[09:02] <svijaykr> [Chameleon] : The multimedia preferences > test sound
[09:02] <Myrtti> cychem1: http://www.eff.org/Privacy/printers/list.php
[09:02] <[Chameleon] > svijaykr: yeah, try killing esd
[09:02] <cychem1> Myrtti I'm well aware
[09:03] <iceman64> awsome
[09:03] <zyzzyr> I managed to convince the office to roll out Ubuntu to about a dozen workstations ;)
[09:03] <[Chameleon] > zyzzyr: kewl
[09:04] <synthetic_fenix> uhg :(
[09:04] <gilbert_> my g++ <IP_ADDRESS>-1 its broken and its mark by red how can i repair it?
[09:04] <svijaykr> [Chameleon] ,  restarted it - no avail
[09:04] <gilbert_> also g++3.3
[09:04] <gilbert_> my g++ <IP_ADDRESS>-1 its broken and its mark by red how can i repair it?
[09:04] <[Chameleon] > gilbert_: stop it already
[09:04] <aftertaf> nice one zyzzyr
[09:04] <[Chameleon] > gilbert_: either no one knows or no one cares
[09:04] <cychem1> ck this http://fly.hiwaay.net/~pspoole/echelon.html
[09:04] <svijaykr> [Chameleon] ,  esd doesn't show any output either on the terminal .. no errors ..nothing
[09:04] <[Chameleon] > svijaykr: `killall esd`
[09:05] <[Chameleon] > svijaykr: then try the test
[09:05] <cevizoglu> gilbert_, or no one knows what you mean by "it's marked by red"
[09:05] <nalioth> gilbert_: repeating rarely brings people rushing in to answer you, but it is irritating
[09:05] <[Chameleon] > cevizoglu: probably in synaptic
[09:05] <gilbert_> from synaptic
[09:05] <iceman64> ok where in the file system is xmms .. i need to point shout cast to it
[09:05] <Agrajag> /usr/bin/xmms
[09:05] <gilbert_> when i check my synaptic
[09:05] <[Chameleon] > gilbert_: did you try right-clicking it and selecting "Reinstall"?
[09:05] <nalioth> gilbert_: do you have any non ubuntu repos in your sources.list?
[09:05] <iceman64> ty
[09:05] <Agrajag> that's where almost every program is
[09:05] <gilbert_> no disabled
[09:05] <gilbert_> only
[09:05] <gilbert_> mark for removal
[09:05] <synthetic_fenix> im tring to setup and anonymous ftp server with proftpd, when i goto try and access it from another computer in my local lan (no firewall in the way) it comes up and askes for a username and password, i select in IE to login anonymously and put in my e-mail address, then logon prompt pops right back up, and i even tried with smartftp and it gives me error 550 anyone got any ideas?
[09:06] <gilbert_> and complete mark 4 removal
[09:06] <gilbert_> any ideas
[09:06] <svijaykr> [Chameleon] , what do I use as my source and sink then ?
[09:06] <iceman64> ok.. xmms froze .. whats kill command
[09:06] <Kream> synthetic_fenix:  try in #proftpd
[09:06] <PuppetMaster> it's working thanx to everyone! :)
[09:07] <Kream> synthetic_fenix:  you should get some help there
[09:07] <synthetic_fenix> Kream: on this server?
[09:07] <iceman64> from a term... how to kill kmms
[09:07] <Bieleke> iceman64, just kill, or click close, there will a dialog popup if you want to force close
[09:08] <Bieleke> just sudo kill <processnumber>
[09:08] <[Chameleon] > svijaykr: ALSA
[09:08] <Kream> synthetic_fenix:  for free, too :)
[09:08] <iceman64> bieleke clicked .. its froze ... need to kil in a terminal
[09:08] <synthetic_fenix> Kream: thanx
[09:08] <Kream> synthetic_fenix:  share and enjoy
[09:09] <Bieleke> look with gnome processes which is the process number
[09:09] <Bieleke> then use sudo kill <procnr> on console
[09:09] <Mattias> when i install ubuntu and its all done, and atlast when i try to log in, in the gdm, the whole system freezes after around 10 seconds, i got a ATI Radeon x600 Pro card, i really need help to fix this
[09:09] <iceman64> in kde ?
[09:09] <Bieleke> erm... kde :-) use kde process explorer
[09:09] <svijaykr> [Chameleon] ,  no sound even now :(
[09:09] <Bieleke> then kill on console :-)
[09:10] <Agrajag> iceman64: ps aux|grep xmms|grep -i grep|awk '{print $2}'|xargs kill -9
[09:10] <Agrajag> run that and xmms will die
[09:10] <[Chameleon] > Agrajag: wouldn't `killall -9 xmms` work?
[09:11] <Mattias> someone who can help me?
[09:11] <Agrajag> oh sure if you want to do it the lazy way
[09:11] <[Chameleon] > Agrajag: hahaha
[09:11] <Mattias> i had the same problem in gentoo once, but i solved it somehow then in the kernel with something, but i can't remember how :/
[09:11] <[Chameleon] > Mattias: did you install the fglrx binary driver?
[09:12] <Mattias> Chameleon, the thing is, i can't do anything, ubuntu auto installs, and when its all done, it freezes in gdm, so i can't even log into the comp and change anything
[09:12] <iceman64> killed it .. thanks you
[09:13] <nalioth> Mattias: did you check your md5sums?
[09:13] <indypende> hi all!
[09:13] <[Chameleon] > Mattias: append " s" to the boot line by pressing "a" in the boot menu.
[09:13] <[Chameleon] > Mattias: then, when you get to the console, use dselect to [un] install stuff
[09:13] <iceman64> ok.. i try to play shoutcast linked to xmms.. every time i open a station xmms freezes up ...
[09:13] <Mattias> nalioth, everything is correct on the cd, i know its a kernel problem, as i fixed this in gentoo too, but how do i change the kernel in ubuntu?
[09:13] <indypende> how can i modify the gtk-based app's FONTS?
[09:14] <Severian> !RestrictedFormats
[09:14] <ubotu> well, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[09:14] <[Chameleon] > iceman64: try Rhythmbox
[09:14] <iceman64> k
[09:14] <Mattias> Chameleol ill try that, how do i install a new kernel in ubuntu?
[09:15] <[Chameleon] > Mattias: use dselect. It'll explain itself to you
[09:15] <iceman64> oh rythembox is for gnome .. i use kde
[09:16] <[Chameleon] > Mattias: here's a tip tho, when you're in the Install screen, after you dismiss the help, press "/" and type something to search by name.
[09:16] <wolden> why am I getting these annoying "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:16] <wolden>   realplayer: Depends: libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1) but it is not going to be installed
[09:16] <wolden> "  -- is it because of bad repositories?
[09:16] <Mattias> Chameleon, kk :) ill try fix this now, thx for the help
[09:16] <Bieleke> iceman64, what is the advantage of using kde ?
[09:16] <[Chameleon] > Mattias: aye
[09:17] <iceman64> bieleke guess it's what i am used to ... never have been keen to gnome .. personal preference ..
[09:17] <[Chameleon] > wolden: you need to add some repositories, yes. The repos you are using are not necessarily bad tho.
[09:17] <svijaykr> [Chameleon] ,  any idea what I should do next ?
[09:18] <iceman64> had this working all great in last release of ubuntu
[09:18] <nalioth> Bieleke: personal preference
[09:18] <wolden> Chameleon, but I just addes the ones from that .nl site, and still! and it sucks cause it doesnt let me install anything else until i fix that
[09:18] <Bieleke> iceman64, ah ic... cause i used kde for years, but now i'm sold to gnome
[09:18] <[Chameleon] > svijaykr: no
[09:19] <iceman64> bieleke ... guess i just have never really took to navigating in gnome .. is still get lost looking for terminal ...
[09:19] <svijaykr> [Chameleon] , okay ..thanks
[09:19] <iceman64> i know where it all is right away in kde ..
[09:20] <iceman64> has to be a issue with xmms and shoutcast ... ?
[09:20] <crimsun> treitter: if you don't see any additional CFLAGS and/or CXXFLAGS, then they're not set
[09:20] <azertyuuu> hey all, what's the difference between Nvidia Driver and nvidia LEGACY driver ? Both start at boot, can i diable 1 of them ?
[09:20] <indypende> how can i modify the gtk-based app's FONTS?
[09:21] <[Chameleon] > indypende: how 'bout the Fonts preference app?
[09:22] <sn0n> hey guys..
[09:22] <sn0n> quick silly Q, firefox likes to let totem crash it.. when there is embed or objects for media files.. how can i just kill that?
[09:22] <jtth> is there a specific ubuntu powerpc room?
[09:22] <tritium> no, jtth.  This is the place to be
[09:22] <indypende> [Chameleon] , no, about the fonts of apps based on gtk (like xmms and others)
[09:22] <sn0n> ubuntu-ppc ?
[09:23] <sn0n> (just a guess)
[09:23] <indypende> [Chameleon] , The fonts are noised
[09:23] <iceman64> How to get xmms to play shoutcast ... anyone
[09:23] <jtth> Ok. Then perhaps this can be answered: If I want to resize (decrease) the size of my HFS+ partition of OS X (so I can install ubuntu) how would I go about doing that without losing data?
[09:23] <azertyuuu> can i diable HP linux imaging and printing system ?
[09:24] <azertyuuu> i have no printer or no other Hp-device
[09:24] <[Chameleon] > indypende: xmms is not based on gtk in that way
[09:24] <indypende> mh?
[09:24] <[Chameleon] > indypende: try Beep Media Player. probably listed as "bmp" in apt
[09:24] <iceman64> ok .. no sound in kde .. ?
[09:24] <[Chameleon] > indypende: I think that xmms has a font config in it's preferences.
[09:24] <[Chameleon] > iceman64: KDE is teh suck
[09:25] <Hhhhh> I like KDE
[09:25] <indypende> [Chameleon] , the problem is not my media player, but the GTK theme (specially the fonts)
[09:25] <iceman64> xmms is running now .. but no sound in kde ..
[09:25] <mojo> I am trying to set up a vfat partition for read-write access to members of the "share" group that I made, but am having problems.  In fstab I added gid=share and umask=002 which makes it all LOOK right once mounted.  But as a user who is in the share group, I get no permission to write.  What gives?
[09:25] <[Chameleon] > indypende: I think that xmms has a font config in it's preferences.
[09:25] <crimsun> [Chameleon] : redirect them to #kubuntu if necessary, but let us keep the distro wars out, 'k? Thanks.
[09:25] <iceman64> hay .. rework my gnome where it is friendly to me like kde .. ill switch
[09:25] <indypende> [Chameleon] , xmms it's only an example...
[09:26] <Hhhhh> crimsun, it was a WM war, not distro
[09:26] <Hhhhh> but still you're right
[09:26] <iceman64> let me see what happend in gnome
[09:26] <azertyuuu> i'm using kubuntu and downloading the Edubuntu-desktop, is it nice to work with ?
[09:27] <jtth> what is the edubuntu desktop?
[09:27] <xukun> ist possible to install extra software while usig the live cd?
[09:27] <alekz> anyone can recommend me a inklevel meter ?
[09:27] <[Chameleon] > alekz: http://gmso.linux-sevenler.org/screenshot.php?lang=en
[09:28] <mojo> jtth: pardon if i'm mistaken, but i think edubuntu-desktop is the package name for the meta-package that depends on all the edubuntu component applications.
[09:28] <alekz> let me check [Chameleon]  thanks
[09:28] <iceman64> got to be a issue in kde .. works fine in gnome
[09:28] <jtth> cool.
[09:28] <Pickle_Weasel> is there something similar to alt-tab that will let me switch out of full screen programs, a package perhaps?
[09:28] <[Chameleon] > azertyuuu, jtth: it's an LTSP specialized thing.
[09:28] <iceman64> how to change icon sizes in gnome the huge icons suck
[09:28] <[Chameleon] > iceman64: try a higher resolution
[09:28] <[Chameleon] > :)
[09:28] <azertyuuu> it downloads all the edubuntu-packages to work with in kubuntu
[09:29] <jtth> so does anyone know how to safely resize an HFS+ partition?
[09:29] <iceman64> wheres that configured from in gnome .. here i am lost ..
[09:29] <iceman64> ;(
[09:29] <mojo> jtth: not to be trite but the only safe way is to make a backup first
[09:29] <jtth> mojo: i have done that
[09:29] <mojo> jtth: cool beans then
[09:29] <gilbert_> wer i can download libssl0.9.6
[09:30] <nicholaspaul> yea i'm back. .. ;0
[09:30] <nicholaspaul> Id love to be able to edit my xfce menu. Anyone know where theres a text file or something i can edit?
[09:30] <[Chameleon] > iceman64: System / Preferences / Screen Resolution
[09:30] <alekz> [Chameleon] , E: Couldn't find package gmso :(
[09:31] <[Chameleon] > alekz: of course not. go build it
[09:31] <iceman64> 1024/768 already .. and got huge ugly icons
[09:31] <Pickle_Weasel> does anyone know of any option that will let me Alt-Tab out of full screen apps, or something similar?
[09:31] <alekz> [Chameleon] , recommended to build it from source ?
[09:31] <iceman64> cant go any higher ..
[09:31] <[Chameleon] > alekz: yes
[09:31] <alekz> ok thanks [Chameleon]
[09:31] <[Chameleon] > aye
[09:31] <Bieleke> iceman64, does xmms works in gnome ?
[09:31] <azertyuuu> how can i change the menu-style, menu editor is not what i'm looking for, it's somthing else
[09:32] <iceman64> bieleke yep .. point click .. and listeng to radion as i type
[09:32] <nicholaspaul> iceman64, yes it does
[09:32] <iceman64> now shring these ugly icons
[09:33] <azertyuuu> how can i change the menu-style, menu editor is not what i'm looking for, it's somthing else
[09:33] <lsald> has anyone (ppc users only) sucessfully install java
[09:33] <iceman64> sghrink the ugly icons .. there must be a way
[09:33] <nicholaspaul> lsald i'm a ppc user, but i havent checked java.
[09:34] <nicholaspaul> - and no i dont have it installed!
[09:34] <iceman64> is there a icon size manager in gnome ... kde i can set the size .. ;(
[09:36] <nalioth> alekz: remember to use "checkinstall" instead of "make install"
[09:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell alekz about checkinstall
[09:36] <httpdss> im using XFce and GDM, when i want shutdown from Xfce it ask me for password ... what can i do to disable passwrd request one shutdown ... i think it has to do with the sudoers file but i dont know what to put in it
[09:36] <ztonzy> morning (here it is)
[09:36] <alekz> thanks nalioth let me check
[09:36] <iceman64> that is why i cant stand gnome ... cant configure it like i have kde ...
[09:36] <ztonzy> anyone else that doesn't get totem-mozilla-plugin to work ?
[09:36] <ztonzy> Mattias, godmorgon ;)
[09:37] <Mattias> Chameleon it didnt work :/
[09:37] <Mattias> ztonzy, morning :)
[09:37] <aftertaf> iceman64, my feelings too ..
[09:37] <ztonzy> Mattias, I am cloaked, but I could see your ghost
[09:37] <ztonzy> Mattias, skne here :P
[09:37] <iceman64> aftertaf but i cant get xmms and shoutcast to plat togather in kde
[09:37] <iceman64> play
[09:38] <Mattias> ztonzy, hehe :D u don't happen to know how to make ATI drivers not freeze with ubuntu?
[09:38] <[Chameleon] > Mattias: sucky
[09:38] <Mattias> i just looked up the forums. im not alone
[09:38] <ztonzy> Mattias, hmm...hoary or breezy?
[09:38] <aftertaf> iceman64, erf :/ nvidia driver at all?
[09:38] <Mattias> ztonzy, breezy badger
[09:38] <ztonzy> Mattias, I did install ATI for my brothers hoary...not breezy
[09:38] <ztonzy> Mattias, dont know....I use nvidia myself
[09:38] <spine55> Mattias, I figured it out
[09:38] <Mattias> ztonzy, its hard for me to fix as im used to gentoo's system of doing things :P
[09:38] <Mattias> spine55, u did? :D
[09:39] <ztonzy> Mattias, there's  a helper
[09:39] <iceman64> aftertaf got the link to installing nvidia driver in breezy
[09:39] <Mattias> spine55, and i don't wanna loose direct rendering support
[09:39] <ztonzy> Mattias, ah...gentoo is more hardcore isn't it ;)
[09:39] <spine55> Mattias, ahh
[09:39] <aftertaf> if i have some spare space on my HD, can i make / bigger? or do i need a live cd for that?
[09:39] <Mattias> ztonzy, hehe :)
[09:39] <spine55> Mattias, that's the way that I fixed it
[09:39] <Mattias> spine55, did u loose dri support?
[09:39] <aftertaf> iceman64, tried vlc or beep?
[09:39] <Mattias> spine55, do fglrxinfo
[09:39] <spine55> Mattias, oh no sorry I'm just running the ati driver
[09:40] <Mattias> spine55, does it says ATI ?
[09:40] <mojo> I am trying to set up a vfat partition for read-write access to members of the "share" group that I made, but am having problems.  In fstab I added gid=share and umask=002 which makes it all LOOK right once mounted.  But as a user who is in the share group, I get no permission to write.  What gives?
[09:40] <httpdss> iceman64: said i cant get xmms and shoutcast to plat togather in kde ..... <--- check sound server
[09:40] <nicholaspaul> lsald - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78804&highlight=java+ppc
[09:40] <Mattias> spine55, well. how did u fix it then?
[09:40] <spine55> Mattias, yeah no 3d support I'm just running a server and it was locking up with the ati driver
[09:40] <iceman64> some how installing kde and xmms toasted my mozilla home page settings
[09:40] <aftertaf> mojo, check perms on the mount point
[09:40] <[Chameleon] > aftertaf: you can easily add space if you've got unpartitioned space and are using LVM.
[09:40] <nicholaspaul> i'm having trouble with xfce audio. In CD Player, its really quiet.
[09:40] <spine55> Mattias, all I did was a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:40] <nicholaspaul> anyone?
[09:40] <[Chameleon] > aftertaf: but, LVM isn't the default.
[09:40] <Mattias> spine55, i fixed this in gentoo once :( i just gotta remember what was the problem
[09:40] <ztonzy> spine55, there's no drivers from ATI's site that works fluently with Breezy ?
[09:41] <aftertaf> [Chameleon] , yeah... i dont think im using it... :)  can i change to it?
[09:41] <Bieleke> iceman64, which icons do you mean that are too big ?
[09:41] <spine55> Mattias, then went through the settings and unchecked the dri module
[09:41] <aftertaf> [Chameleon] , like windows volumes, right? dynamic disks and the like?
[09:41] <spine55> ztonzy, no not that I know of
[09:41] <Mattias> spine55, ye :( but i need dri for games :/
[09:41] <sn0n> quick silly Q, firefox likes to let totem crash it.. when there is embed or objects for media files.. how can i just kill that?
[09:41] <sn0n> hmm.. maybe this might work.. Downloads / File Types
[09:41] <[Chameleon] > aftertaf: how much space is available and how much is actually in use on your drive? i.e. 4 GB used, 10 GB available
[09:41] <sn0n> i'll try
[09:41] <ztonzy> Mattias, where are you located ?
[09:41] <spine55> Mattias, what card do you have?
[09:42] <Mattias> ztonzy, vstmanland
[09:42] <sn0n> nope, that didnt work..
[09:42] <Mattias> spine55, ATI Radeon x600
[09:42] <sn0n> Firefox crashing with videos -  1 Week Ago     { http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73083 }
[09:42] <sn0n> joy...
[09:42] <ztonzy> spine55, I got it worked alright with hoary for my brother...worked perfect
[09:42] <iceman64> bieleke created a few on the desktop ... there huge ...
[09:42] <ztonzy> Mattias, ah Skne here
[09:42] <spine55> Mattias, well I do know that my laptop is not freezing up and its running a radeon 9600 mobile
[09:42] <Mattias> anyone know how i can modifie the kernel in ubuntu?
[09:42] <N6REJ> how do you convert form ext2 to ext3?
[09:43] <tritium> Mattias, you want to compile your own?
[09:43] <ztonzy> no one? (About Totem-Mozilla-Plugin) ?
[09:43] <spine55> Mattias, you mean install a 686 kernel?
[09:43] <pinucset> isnt oo2 in the repositories yet?
[09:43] <Mattias> tritium, ye, because this one locks up
[09:43] <Mattias> spine55, why not :)
[09:43] <Bieleke> iceman64, you can change icons
[09:43] <ztonzy> Mattias, what CPU ?
[09:43] <spine55> Mattias, one sec figured that out myself
[09:43] <Mattias> ztonzy, p4 3.4ghz
[09:43] <ztonzy> Mattias, okej
[09:43] <iceman64> bieleke how to resize them ..
[09:43] <aftertaf>  [Chameleon]  / == 9.2 GB, 4.2 gb free......   and ive got 4Gb before it doing nothing
[09:44] <Bieleke> iceman64, instead of using /usr/share/pixmaps use /usr/share/icons and select the right size
[09:44] <tritium> Mattias, install linux-source-2.6.12, kernel-package, and then read the docs in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package on how to build your own .deb kernel package
[09:44] <spine55> Mattias, sudo apt-get install linux-image-686
[09:44] <N6REJ> aftertaf: is there an easy way to upgrade from ext2 to ext3?
[09:44] <spine55> Mattias, or sudo apt-get install linux-image-k7 for amd
[09:45] <iceman64> much better .. got to do each one that way ...
[09:45] <tritium> linux-686 or linux-k7 would be preferable, since it would pull in other dependencies
[09:45] <[Chameleon] > aftertaf: on the 9.2 GB, is that the total partition size or the actual size of data on the partition?
[09:45] <tritium> but those aren't source, just images
[09:45] <Mattias> tritium, that one is installed from start right? and what if i want like. nitro-sources-2.6.14_rc3-r1?
[09:46] <[Chameleon] > aftertaf: if the actual data size < 4 GB, I'd make an LVM volume on that first partition, move your data, wipe the old partition and expand the LVM.
[09:46] <[Chameleon] > aftertaf: `df -h` tells you actual size
[09:46] <spine55> but then you can get the headers
[09:46] <tritium> Mattias, no kernel source is installed by default.  Don't know what nitro-sources are
[09:46] <tritium> spine55, you can't compile a kernel from just headers, only modules
[09:46] <Mattias> tritium, http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-388992-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-.html
[09:46] <spine55> tritium, ahh
[09:47] <spine55> tritium, thank you sir
[09:47] <tritium> :)
[09:47] <ztonzy> hmm seems no one has any answer in that topic :-}
[09:47] <ztonzy> :-\
[09:47] <sazwerx> can we convert .tar.gz file into .deb file?
[09:47] <aftertaf> [Chameleon] , yeah, but its root..... :/ scary...    9gb total size
[09:47] <tritium> !tell sazwerx about checkinstall
[09:48] <Mattias> spine55, sudo apt-get install linux-image-686, i don't suppose that would give me the 2.6.14 sources?
[09:48] <sazwerx> tritium, thanks
[09:48] <[Chameleon] > aftertaf: you could reinstall to a newly created LVM and swap it that way.
[09:48] <spine55> Mattias, no
[09:48] <Mattias> spine55, or how do i get the newest?
[09:48] <tritium> Mattias, no, that would give you a kernel image, not source
[09:48] <HappyFool> download the 2.6.14-rc source and compile it
[09:48] <Mattias> bah, how do i get a source in ubuntu? :P
[09:48] <ztonzy> Mattias, you to install those seperately + to untar it manually
[09:48] <N6REJ> tritium: is there an easy way to convert ext2 to ext3?
[09:48] <tritium> Mattias, the latest ubuntu-patched source, available as a package, is linux-source-2.6.12
[09:48] <HappyFool> check the kernelhowto on the wiki
[09:49] <Mattias> tritium, then ill download nitro-sources and compile it myself :P ill just go with the gentoo livecd and fix it :)
[09:49] <joevandyk> Hi -- I've got a mac mini that connects to a wireless router.  I've got the mac mini also hooked up to an ethernet router.  I've got a linux computer that's hooked up to the ethernet router.  I want the linux computer to use the mac mini's internet connection.  How can I do that?
[09:49] <tritium> N6REJ, I believe so
[09:49] <N6REJ> HappyFool: good evening... I'm starting from scratch  :(
[09:49] <HappyFool> but there's not much point unless you have specific needs, or you want to do kernel development
[09:49] <HappyFool> hi N6REJ
[09:50] <tritium> Mattias, okay.  You can still use kernel-package, if you'd like to build your new kernel as a .deb
[09:50] <N6REJ> tritium: know how?  I'm having to start over... I installed the server-distro and I couldn't get it to install as ext3.
[09:50] <iceman64> KDE seems much friendlier .. i can set icon spacing ...
[09:50] <HappyFool> and, if you just want to play with kernels, you can use qemu (as i discovered this morning). No risk kernel-compilation-and-boot :)
[09:50] <N6REJ> HappyFool: I've got a strange problem... the router has the name "null" as the dhcp client for the server.
[09:50] <Mattias> tritium, i think this will be the easiest :) i will just do "emerge nitro-sources" and its done :P
[09:50] <iceman64> brb
[09:51] <nalioth> N6REJ: yes there is
[09:51] <N6REJ> <------- hates that there isn't good step-by-step how to's yet for 5.10
[09:51] <Mattias> tritium, the thing is, i am going ubuntu cus i hate to compile the stuff, it takes time with stuff like openoffice 2.0 and those
[09:51] <N6REJ> nalioth: good evening..
[09:51] <Mattias> tritium, took me 10 hours for that one :P
[09:51] <HappyFool> N6REJ: so you didn't get ext2 on your server install?
[09:51] <nalioth> N6REJ: open a terminal and type "sudo tune2fs -j /path/to/partition/to/convert"
[09:51] <HappyFool> N6REJ: err, you didn't get ext3 ?
[09:51] <spine55> yeah gentoo is nice but man it takes days to build
[09:51] <tritium> Mattias, sounds like a complete lack of fun
[09:51] <N6REJ> HappyFool: nope, just ext2
[09:52] <Mattias> tritium, openoffice is a pain to compile :) try it ;D
[09:52] <tritium> Mattias, waste of time to do so ;)
[09:52] <spine55> and hard drive
[09:52] <Mattias> tritium, well, i hope ubuntu will make my world easier :P but it seems it didnt work of the bat
[09:53] <tritium> Mattias, what didn't work?
[09:53] <unu> hello
[09:53] <Mattias> tritium, Xorg locks up
[09:53] <Mattias> tritium, i got an ati card so it says itself
[09:53] <tritium> Mattias, did you troubleshoot it?  What video chipset?
[09:53] <N6REJ> nalioth: run that by me more please... I've got /boot, /root, /swap, ... shoot I forgeet even how to check them... I'm not having a good night tonight.
[09:54] <Mattias> tritium, ATI Radeon x600? :)
[09:54] <unu> i used dd to backup my mbr, but unfortunately i got the awful idea to change the partitions after that; so now my mbr contains another hdd map than my real one - how can i make fdisk see what is really in there?
[09:54] <tritium> Mattias, did you follow the BinaryDriverHowto?
[09:54] <nalioth> N6REJ: then perhaps we should try this tomorrow
[09:54] <Mattias> tritium, im not alone http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33811518, if u fix it pls tell all the others how u did it :)
[09:55] <nalioth> N6REJ: in a terminal, "sudo tune2fs -j /dev/hdaX"  where "X" is the partition you want to convert
[09:55] <tritium> Mattias, I don't have ATI.
[09:55] <HappyFool> unu: you mean, restore the old mbr ?
[09:55] <Mattias> tritium, don't get one! :P ATI on linux is a pain.
[09:55] <N6REJ> nalioth:  would you please remind me of the command to check for the partion names?
[09:55] <nalioth> N6REJ: change accordingly if you have scsi or sata drives
[09:55] <tritium> I know...
[09:55] <aftertaf> [Chameleon]  and without reinstalling? i could maybe mount var to another partition?
[09:55] <nalioth> N6REJ: "sudo fdisk -l"
[09:55] <N6REJ> thats it.. ty.
[09:55] <tritium> Mattias, did you setup ATI according to the wiki?
[09:55] <hume> hi .. i got a brand new hoary installation on a box with a NIC using a DEC 21041-chip, and that NIC will not function
[09:55] <Syruss> I'm looking for the sdl version of UAE, anyone know of a decent apt repository which'll have it? (wasn't in multiverse, that was just the regular version)
[09:55] <tritium> !tell Mattias about ati
[09:55] <unu> happyfool - no make it see my new one
[09:56] <Mattias> ill check those out :)
[09:56] <tritium> okay, Mattias
[09:56] <redmonkey> hi everybody! is there a linux version of the game lumines?
[09:56] <iceman64> whats the link to gnome look .. i knw theres one for kde ... has to be something like that for kde
[09:57] <HappyFool> unu: what did you mean by "change the partitions after that" ? using fdisk or what?
[09:57] <nalioth> iceman64: gnome-look.org?
[09:58] <iceman64> nalioth got that ... now installing a theme
[09:58] <N6REJ> nalioth: UH OH! ... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3438
[09:59] <nalioth> N6REJ: got a livecd/
[09:59] <iceman64> do i want gtk2.x themes for gnome ?
[09:59] <unu> HappyFool: let me explain; somebody told me to backup my mbr before install windows; i did that, but when i installed win i erased some partitions, and my hdd partition map changed; so when i restored my old mbr i got my old partitions in grub and fdisk, which don't fit my new ones; so now only ubuntu is accessible, because i haven't changed it; but win and the other partitions are unavailable (fdisk doesn't see them)
[09:59] <HappyFool> unu: ah
[09:59] <unu> HappyFool: not ah, ooops :P
[10:00] <N6REJ> nalioth: not on purpose.. but I could reinstall the whole thing I guess.. nothing on it yet.  I just dl'd the server distro last night and it acted weird....
[10:00] <N6REJ> nalioth: I haven't rebooted yet.
[10:00] <nalioth> N6REJ: no need to reboot
[10:00] <HappyFool> unu: i will quickly browse 'man sfdisk' -- i suggest you do too
[10:00] <quarupt> Hey can someone help me install Ubuntu on VMware Player?
[10:00] <nalioth> N6REJ: get a ubuntu liveCD
[10:00] <unu> sfdisk? didnt know about that one
[10:00] <N6REJ> nalioth: ok, why?
[10:01] <HappyFool> unu: maybe fdisk will suffice
[10:01] <nalioth> HappyFool: sfdisk?
[10:01] <quarupt> Anyone use VMware player yet??
[10:01] <HappyFool> nalioth: super-leet fdisk. but maybe i'm being silly
[10:01] <nalioth> N6REJ: b/c you cant repair your superblock problems while the disks are mounted
[10:01] <heatheranne> Hello.
[10:01] <nalioth> HappyFool: ah i thought you were talking about sexyfdisk
[10:01] <HappyFool> unu: i think you will need to know the start/end sectors etc. of each partition
[10:01] <N6REJ> nalioth: oh, ok, that makes sense.
[10:02] <HappyFool> heh
[10:02] <HappyFool> :P
[10:02] <unu> i'm dead :D
[10:02] <heatheranne> Is this room just for people updating to the new build of Ubuntu?
[10:02] <quarupt> :(
[10:02] <quarupt> I wanna install Ubuntu on VMware player
[10:02] <spiral> hi
[10:02] <iceman64> can anyone direct me to personal gnome desktop screenshots ...
[10:02] <[Chameleon] > aftertaf: I'm really not sure since I don't know your config.
[10:02] <HappyFool> heatheranne: nope, any ubuntu release
[10:02] <indypende> how to disable esd at every boot? (like the ubuntuguide for hoary?
[10:02] <nalioth> heatheranne: nope. it's for ice cream recipes, too
[10:02] <paca> I'm curious if an OpenOffice.org update will show up, or if it will need to be installed more traditionally.
[10:02] <[Chameleon] > iceman64: http://chameleon.homelinux.net/gallery/Ubuntu-5-10-Breezy-Badger
[10:02] <nalioth> heatheranne: no wait, ice cream in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:03] <HappyFool> nalioth: forgotten to take your dried frog pills again? ;)
[10:03] <taryn> wow
[10:03] <heatheranne> I am new to Linux and even newer to Ubuntu, so I have a general question.  Just tell me if I am not allowed to ask here.
[10:03] <heatheranne> Does anyone know of a good embedded media player for firefox?  MPlayer crashes 80% of the time.
[10:03] <[Chameleon] > actually, all of http://chameleon.homelinux.net/gallery/Screenshots is Gnome
[10:03] <taryn> i suck at linux
[10:03] <N6REJ> nalioth: riddle me this... why would my router recieve a name of "null" from the server when it is set to as a dhcp client with perptual assignment?
[10:03] <taryn> i cant even figure out how to open a rar file
[10:03] <unu> heatheranne: vlc
[10:03] <[Chameleon] > heatheranne: YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED!!
[10:03] <nicholaspaul> heatheranne you can ask away
[10:03] <[Chameleon] > heatheranne: J/K
[10:03] <quarupt> Can anyone even see what im asking?
[10:03] <nalioth> heatheranne: ask anything you like in here (we get folks from gentoo, redhat, mandriva, debian and on and on)
[10:03] <[Chameleon] > heatheranne: I like the gzine plugin
[10:03] <quarupt> Or am i just being ignored?
[10:03] <nalioth> quarupt: we can see you
[10:03] <HappyFool> quarupt: if we don't know, we don't answer ;)
[10:03] <N6REJ> taryn:  don't feel alone..   So sorry.
[10:04] <HappyFool> unu: backing up the mbr in that way should not be necessary. You can reinstall the ubuntu MBR using grub from the livecd
[10:04] <ztonzy> nalioth, lol...I got that...asked couple of times about totem-mozilla-plugin
[10:04] <nalioth> heatheranne: just a well endowed (with codecs) non embedded media player
[10:04] <nicholaspaul> i'm not ignoring you quarupt, i just dont know how to install vmware :)
[10:04] <[Chameleon] > heatheranne: it's no problem. some of us like helping n00bs
[10:04] <nicholaspaul> isnt it something you have to pay for?
[10:05] <ztonzy> nalioth, and no one seemed to have any answer for me
[10:05] <HappyFool> unu: easiest thing would be to reinstall windows, i think
[10:05] <N6REJ> heatheranne: don't feel sorry.  I am a newbie and I've used linux before... just forgot most of it.  And some nights like 2nite I can't even remember basic commands.
[10:05] <nalioth> HappyFool: NO NO
[10:05] <nicholaspaul> ztonzy you're not alone. I wanted to edit my xfce menus and get the audio fixed.....:(
[10:05] <nalioth> HappyFool: mbr issue, right ? grub? unu ?
[10:05] <iceman64> Chameleon not to my tast ... do i want gtk 2.0 themes ?
[10:06] <HappyFool> nalioth: yeah. he lost his partition table
[10:06] <heatheranne> LOL N6, I came from OSX, so this is so foreign to me.  I am gonna check my package manager and see if vlc is installed.
[10:06] <taryn> what im having issues with is the directory structure, im used to the windows where i can just put stuff on C:\program files\, but with ubunttu im having issues even how to extract files from an archive to anywhere
[10:06] <unu> nalioth mbr issue
[10:06] <iceman64> xmms
[10:06] <nalioth> unu: do you have ubuntu?
[10:06] <unu> yup
[10:06] <unu> actually more like xubuntu :P
[10:06] <HappyFool> nalioth: ubuntu is working. windows is not (as i understand)
[10:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell heatheranne about repos
[10:06] <walle> Hi all! I have U 5.10 and icewm, how I add to menu new program...? Any idea...
[10:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell heatheranne about apt-get
[10:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell heatheranne about synaptic
[10:06] <ztonzy> nicholaspaul, hehe....funny thing is , that this totem-mozilla-plugin is installed by default...and I guess official supported...but as it doesn't work, someone would have an answer....???
[10:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell heatheranne about cli
[10:06] <quarupt> Breezy Badger??? man I goto school for 2 quarters and I come back and ya guys have moved up 2 stable Releases!!!
[10:06] <unu> nalioth is there a way to check manually my mbr? or sort of?
[10:06] <RezDawg> hello ubuntu world
[10:06] <[Chameleon] > heatheranne: I don't think vlc is installed by default.
[10:07] <nalioth> heatheranne: i hope you like reading cuz ubotu has sent you some info that may interest you
[10:07] <unu> nalioth even lower than fdisk
[10:07] <nalioth> unu: if ubuntu is working, edit your grub menu.lst
[10:07] <ztonzy> nalioth, how to ask the bot ?
[10:07] <heatheranne> apt-get is command line, I am much more comfortable with a ui
[10:07] <iceman64> Theme packs for gnome ...   They are not even remotely the same.
[10:09] <azertyuuu> ubotu: tell azertyuuu about yourself
[10:09] <heatheranne> thats amazing stuff :)
[10:09] <quarupt> *Linsphire
[10:09] <taryn> paca: typing things in command line is the same no matter what the core is
[10:09] <quarupt> whaqtever there calling after 7 lawsuits
[10:09] <gmhafiz> Linspire
[10:09] <iceman64> ok who can walk me through installing a theme in gnome
[10:10] <unu> taryn: yeah right, try to do i/o redirection in dos
[10:10] <paca> taryn: no, it isn't.
[10:10] <frank_b> I have to mount my floppy in the terminal first before I can access it from the "Computer" entry in the "Places" menu. I don't remember this happening in Hoary. Is this a bug?
[10:10] <ztonzy> nalioth, the bot doesnt have any answer on it...(totem mozilla plugin) why install it by default if it doesnt work ?
[10:10] <unu> if anyone has an idea of a program which checks my hd and writes a mbr based on that, it would be great :P
[10:11] <quarupt> taryn, NO, it's completely different UNIX type shells are way more advanced than DOS command line stuff
[10:11] <N6REJ> nalioth: well it rebooted ok!
[10:11] <taryn> its still typing text in to make the computer do something
[10:11] <taryn> thats what i meant, dont think all deep into a simple statement
[10:11] <nalioth> ztonzy: i have 0 clue
[10:11] <HappyFool> unu: reinstall windows, and don't overwrite the mbr again *shrug*
[10:11] <quarupt> taryn, It's Input to make the computer work, that comes with anything
[10:11] <RezDawg> !users
[10:11] <ubotu> RezDawg: Are you on ritalin?
[10:11] <cevizoglu> quarupt, taryn doesn't care if it's a different kind of command-line
[10:11] <taryn> exactly
[10:12] <nalioth> unu: yes, you'll need this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:12] <unu> HappyFool: don't want to! and i can't get into win now :( probably a win recovery is the solution
[10:12] <mojo> nalioth: ubotu is really cool.  i love this thing
[10:12] <Pickle_Weasel> is there something similar to alt-tab that will let me switch out of full screen programs, a package perhaps?
[10:12] <hume> i got a nic using DEC chip 21041, that wont work, and I find information saying it should work with tulip driver, however, that is not what seems to be loaded automatically - how do I change this?
[10:12] <quarupt> well like I said command line is a part of every distro, doesnt mean ya have to use it
[10:12] <taryn> im trying to learn, just sorta frustrating when your not sober at the time
[10:13] <quarupt> I found a free X-server for windows
[10:13] <quarupt> YA
[10:13] <nalioth> mojo: thank cafuego when you see him
[10:13] <HappyFool> what, cygwin ? ;)
[10:13] <unu> nalioth: sorry, these kinds of problems aren't even in the manual :P they're beyond stupidity
[10:13] <quarupt> now I can access my work box and do X stuff
[10:13] <mojo> lol should root login require breathalyzer biometrics? he he he
[10:13] <nalioth> unu: the wiki URL is for AFTER you reinstall windows
[10:13] <taryn> anyway, can anyone recommend a good archiving program for ubuntu that reads rar's? and can sorta walk me through an extraction?
[10:13] <cevizoglu> mojo, no, root login should be banned  ;)
[10:13] <mojo> cevizoglu: touche
[10:13] <HappyFool> heh
[10:13] <N6REJ> nalioth: do you know why my router would say this?  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3439
[10:13] <quarupt> No SUDO should be banned
[10:13] <azertyuuu> hey all, what was the name of the prog to CHANGE the munu-STYLE  (not the menu-editor)
[10:13] <unu> thx guys
[10:14] <unu> gonna go recover windows :| from the install cd
[10:14] <quarupt> Hey im only getting 300/k on the DL. whats the deal
[10:14] <nalioth> N6REJ: that isnt a lot of into
[10:14] <HappyFool> unu: so install cd can reconstruct the mbr?
[10:14] <nalioth> info
[10:14] <[Chameleon] > quarupt: you blasphemed SUDO, that's what.
[10:14] <quarupt> huh?
[10:14] <malv> would it be safe to recommend ubuntu to your typical clueless windows user?
[10:15] <N6REJ> nalioth: ok, wait one please.
[10:15] <quarupt> SUDO is useless if you know what your doing
[10:15] <nalioth> malv: of course!
[10:15] <mojo> ROTFLMAO  @ Chameleon!
[10:15] <taryn> malv, im the typical windows user, and ubuntu is sorta complicated for me
[10:15] <[Chameleon] > quarupt: sudo is easily bypassed if you know what you're doing. so stop complaining about it.
[10:15] <nalioth> quarupt: cevizoglu take your root/sudo to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:15] <HappyFool> malv: bear in mind the annoyances of dvd/mp3 playing, but otherwise yes
[10:15] <paca> malv, about as safe as recommending Windows to them, probably.
[10:15] <malv> heh
[10:15] <quarupt> SUDO PASSWD
[10:15] <quarupt> its that easy
[10:15] <quarupt> Its the first step in an install for me
[10:15] <unu> HappyFool: believe so
[10:15] <unu> bye!
[10:15] <tritium> quarupt, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:16] <iceman64> Help ... got a complete theme package ... now how to install in gnome ...
[10:16] <nalioth> quarupt: please man, we dont want any flames in here
[10:16] <quarupt> tritium, I would if it was OFF topic
[10:16] <malv> I can just see it now, "Ubuntu destroyed my hard disk"
[10:16] <[Chameleon] > quarupt: take your opinion to /dev/null
[10:16] <tritium> quarupt, enough then
[10:16] <frank_b> question: is it possible to change the picture that appears when Ubuntu boots?
[10:16] <mojo> Hey, anyone REALLY good with mounting vfat to have r/w perms for just members of a group?  Mine LOOKS right but I still can't get write access
[10:16] <HappyFool> malv: it would probably be an idea to find out what the user wants to do, and compare that to what is in the default install
[10:16] <iceman64> frank_b yea ...
[10:16] <ztonzy> hmm
[10:17] <[Chameleon] > frank_b: System / Administration / Login Screen Setup
[10:17] <quarupt> Not an opinion, that would be something like..  "root login should be destroyed"
[10:17] <ztonzy> isnt mplayer among the repositries no more ?
[10:17] <quarupt> why dont ya yell at him
[10:17] <aboe> frank_b it is possible in the future, ad the moment the the picture, (you mean, ubuntu logo as it boots) is hardcoded
[10:17] <HappyFool> ztonzy: 'apt-cache search mplayer' shows me lots of things
[10:18] <ztonzy> HappyFool, true...sorry for that
[10:18] <malv> i've had my share of difficulties with Ubuntu, especially when dealing with strange setups
[10:18] <frank_b> iceman64, I'm sorry. maybe I explained my self wrongly. I mean the one right after grub
[10:18] <tritium> quarupt, stop please
[10:18] <quarupt> I did
[10:18] <frank_b> aboe, hmm. yes... ok. that's what I figured. thanks
[10:18] <quarupt> Now dont talk to me anymore seriously
[10:18] <malv> my sisters computer had two sound cards, I had to disable one to get it working again
[10:18] <hume> how do I change which module is automatically loaded for my nic? It is not listed in  /etc/modules so I guess it is some discover or hotplug stuff. It's a new installation of hoary
[10:19] <aboe> frank_b, only change you can make, is ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu...at the moment
[10:19] <iceman64> I need help installing a theme in gnome .. or i go back to kde where i can figure it out
[10:19] <iceman64> why i hate gnome
[10:19] <frank_b> [Chameleon] , I'm sorry. maybe I explained my self wrongly. I mean the one right after grub
[10:19] <tritium> quarupt, lighten up, dude
[10:19] <malv> iceman64: its just drag and drop iceman
[10:19] <taryn> how do i even open the command line in ubuntu? lol
[10:19] <frank_b> aboe, ok. thanks
[10:19] <malv> iceman64: system->preferences->theme
[10:19] <iceman64> malv drag drop where
[10:19] <HappyFool> iceman64: tried system -> preferences -> themes, 'Install theme' ?
[10:19] <aboe> iceman64, go to preferences, themas, and select install theme
[10:19] <quarupt> DUDE, I just asked you politely NOT to speak to me again
[10:19] <aboe> damn HappyFool your quicker
[10:20] <malv> iceman64: under theme details
[10:20] <paca> taryn, utilities menu.
[10:20] <[Chameleon] > frank_b: oh, no you can't change that easily.
[10:20] <[Chameleon] > frank_b: AFAIK
[10:20] <HappyFool> *rolls eyes*
[10:20] <iceman64> malv does not reconize the format ...
[10:20] <malv> iceman64: you can download different controls, windows borders, and icons. To install all you need to do is drag and drop where it says
[10:20] <HappyFool> aboe: heh :-)
[10:20] <frank_b> [Chameleon] , aboe already told that it will be in the future though. "AFAIK"?
[10:20] <malv> iceman64: did you download it from art.gnome.org?
[10:20] <vladuz976> anybody here know how to install japanese input method?
[10:21] <iceman64> gnome-look
[10:21] <iceman64> malv it's the mac theme package
[10:21] <aboe> iceman64, than it should work, in your thema menu....look at thema-details, to find it
[10:21] <[Chameleon] > frank_b: As Far As I Know
[10:21] <iceman64> malv unziped the archive ...
[10:21] <frank_b> [Chameleon] , aha. ah, got it :)
[10:22] <iceman64> but that still wont let me select the packages
[10:22] <ztonzy> doesnt seem that ubuntu-devs like mplayer :-\
[10:22] <malv> iceman64: you shouldn't need to have to go through anything like that to install your typical theme, but I don't know if what you have might require different measures
[10:22] <frank_b> well, I'm out for now
[10:22] <frank_b> bye all
[10:22] <ztonzy> how in earth should we have a working mediaplayer in the webbrowser +
[10:22] <ztonzy> ?
[10:22] <aboe> bye frank_b
[10:23] <iceman64> ok .. now chaging the login ... ?
[10:23] <aboe> iceman64, wich theme from gnome.look
[10:23] <ompaul> iceman64, system - admin - login screen setup
[10:23] <cevizoglu> ztonzy, it **almost* * works for me... the audio is a little choppy
[10:23] <whistler> my problem is that /dev/hda5       /home/toxix/hardas auto umask=777 0 0 somehow doesnt work
[10:23] <malv> ive been using the mplayer plugin for firefox; works on some streams
[10:23] <N6REJ> nalioth: try this..  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3440
[10:24] <ztonzy> cevizoglu, heh..."almost" is my belife not good enough...
[10:24] <ztonzy> cevizoglu, I tried to add extra repositry for finding mplayer and it doesn't exist (backports)
[10:24] <whistler> any good sotware for mounting hdd?
[10:24] <nalioth> N6REJ: how many network devices you got?
[10:24] <whistler> i mean with gui
[10:25] <iceman64> malv let me find the gnome-look name
[10:25] <dabaR> ztonzy...
[10:25] <dabaR> !+info mplayer
[10:25] <ubotu> Package 'mplayer' does not exist.
[10:25] <cevizoglu> !tell ztonzy about mplayer
[10:25] <ztonzy> eek
[10:25] <whistler> any good sotware for mounting hdd with gui??
[10:25] <dabaR> !+info mplayer-386
[10:25] <ubotu> mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3729 kB, Installed size: 8268 kB
[10:25] <iceman64> malv Mac OS X Bundle 2.1
[10:26] <N6REJ> nalioth: right this minute I've got 3, my windows machine, my wifes windows machine, and the server.  I want the server to have 2 interfaces.  One physical and one virtual.  The physcial for the public webspace and the virtual for the family intranet.  Eventually there will be 7-12 systems on the network.
[10:26] <redmonkey> is there a linux version of the game lumines?
[10:26] <ztonzy> dabaR, thanks
[10:26] <ztonzy> cevizoglu, :)
[10:26] <ompaul> redmonkey, describe the game
[10:26] <nalioth> N6REJ: so you got .4 configured with a hostname?
[10:27] <iceman64> gnome will not open the login screen config menu
[10:27] <morgenes> hi, i have a problem: VLC doesn't open since i change it's interface from the menu options
[10:27] <N6REJ> nalioth: 3 right this minute, cause I just did a complete reinstall of the server.
[10:27] <whistler> can anybody help me to mount my ext3 partition ?
[10:27] <redmonkey> ompaul, it's a tetris-like game
[10:27] <aboe> iceman64, I'm searching gnome.look, but can't find the theme your trying to install
[10:27] <ompaul> redmonkey, there are many tetris like games
[10:27] <N6REJ> nalioth: the server knows its "adam" but dhcp isn't getting that.
[10:27] <N6REJ> nalioth: ok.
[10:27] <thenuke> whistler: maybe, what's the exact problem
[10:27] <redmonkey> ompaul, i know :)
[10:27] <Jukru> morgenes: remove ~/.vlc and try again
[10:27] <iceman64> aboe gtk2.x then on secong page
[10:28] <ztonzy> but still...why release a plugin that doesnt work as it should ?
[10:28] <ompaul> redmonkey, so give us more clues
[10:28] <morgenes> i removed it via synaptic, but nothing
[10:28] <iceman64> got the general theme installed ... now the login screen is a issue
[10:30] <iceman64> brb
[10:31] <whistler> here is my fstab entry /dev/hda5       /home/toxix/hardas auto umask=777       0       0
[10:31] <whistler> any ideas of whats wrong ?
[10:32] <ompaul> /dev/hda5       /usr/local      ext3    defaults        0       2
[10:32] <glyn> Hi all
[10:33] <ompaul> whistler, my guess is that the partition you are pointing at is a ntfs one?
[10:33] <erirlar> is amarok the only podcast player for linux?
[10:33] <RezDawg> Can someone help me please, i made a file but forgot to say what type of file it is, so it says its unkown, how do i make the file type i want
[10:33] <whistler> ompaul its an ext3
[10:34] <iceman64> Why cant i start the login screen setup utility ?
[10:34] <cevizoglu> RezDawg, rename the file to have the extension you intended
[10:34] <iceman64> starts to load and dies
[10:34] <ompaul> whistler, what I have pointed to is a partition that is standard as declared by Ubuntu so its your call
[10:34] <morgenes> cool! problem solved: deleting the config file of vlc solves any problem
[10:34] <topyli> erirlar: no, i found penguin-tv pretty good (gnome), but there's no package. you have to fetch it from the home page
[10:34] <aboe> iceman64, i've installed the theme, except for the colors it is working as the install.txt says
[10:34] <RezDawg> cevizoglu: i tried that but under properties it still says type unkown
[10:35] <cevizoglu> RezDawg, so Ubuntu doesn't know which app you prefer to open that extension with
[10:36] <djfm> hi
[10:36] <cevizoglu> RezDawg, There is an "Open With" tab where you can tell it which app you prefer to open that file
[10:36] <iceman64> what ever i did killed everything
[10:36] <djfm> I was wondering if there is a open source program to dictate to your computer ?
[10:36] <aboe> iceman64, woops
[10:37] <aboe> mmm...installed the theme completely, and found no problems, like yours...
[10:37] <Mattias> well. i had to use vesa drivers in the xorg.conf to not get a lockup with my ati card, but now ill try fix it from within ubuntu. anyone who can help me?
[10:37] <RezDawg> cevizoglu: i made a iso and wanted to burn it
[10:38] <Xaios> Wow I must say
[10:38] <Xaios> Unbuntu has made a believer out of me :)
[10:38] <Xaios> haha
[10:38] <iceman64> now ... only problem ... system/ administration/ login screen setup .. does not open ... can not configure it there .. the application starts ... then dies
[10:39] <Xaios> ubuntu*
[10:39] <Xaios> sorry
[10:39] <RezDawg> cevizoglu: when i tried the open with tab it said couldnt add, oh well ill just do it again
[10:39] <RezDawg> cevizoglu: thanks
[10:39] <ompaul> morning thoreauputic
[10:39] <aboe> strange...
[10:39] <thoreauputic> hi ompaul
[10:39] <iceman64> it goes starting login Screen setup .. then the whole app closes
[10:39] <cevizoglu> RezDawg, or you could just open the file with the app you intend to burn with
[10:39] <aboe> did you update to the last version?? try synaptic updating...
[10:39] <[Chameleon] > dangit
[10:39] <[Chameleon] > I hate doing that
[10:40] <aboe> or iceman64 try to reset your gnome session...with a soft reboot, login out, and login back in...
[10:40] <RezDawg> cevizoglu: i tired that no go
[10:41] <Xaios> Can anyone point me to any good Java IDEs that run on Linux? Im a pretty big noob (learning java) so vi/emacs is out of the question something colorful but not as slow as netbeans
[10:41] <cevizoglu> Xaios, eclipse
[10:41] <iceman64> aboe i have ... loged out .. even tried to config from kde ... there it was available ...
[10:41] <xukun> what that application to internet radio's?
[10:41] <Xaios> Thanks Cevizoglu
[10:42] <aboe> mmm...then I can't help you on that one...
[10:42] <cevizoglu> !tell Xaios about eclipse
[10:42] <RezDawg> .commands
[10:43] <Xaios> A few more questions, whats a good Usenet Reader, a replacement for QuickPar, a replacement for Nero, a replacement for DVDShrink, and then Im windows free :)
[10:44] <nalioth> Xaios: a terminal program called "par2" does your quickpar duties (in terminal)
[10:44] <nalioth> Xaios: k3b is a pretty good cd/dvd burner
[10:44] <johndilley> Xaios: If you want a graphical news client, thunderbird's not bad
[10:44] <nalioth> Xaios: i believe you want dvdrip
[10:44] <topyli> Xaios: dvdsrhink may be the most difficult of those to replace
[10:44] <nalioth> johndilley: news? thunderbird? i'd suggest pan
[10:44] <Xaios> Im thinking along the lines of NewsLeecher is what I use on Windows
[10:45] <Xaios> Ive head its possible to emulate windows enough in linux to run some of my apps
[10:45] <topyli> Xaios: you mean you "read" a lot of binaries?
[10:45] <HappyFool> emacs gnus *evil cackle*
[10:45] <RezDawg> Xaios: im still working on dvdshrink, theres one called xdvdshrink but i hear the best thing to do is run dvdshrink in wine
[10:45] <Xaios> can someone point to a website for this project?
[10:45] <johndilley> nalioth: fair enough :)
[10:46] <topyli> Xaios: try to find replacements instead. emulation really is not a very good option
[10:46] <ompaul> Xaios, which project?
[10:46] <RezDawg> Xaios: another problem im having is burning dvds in linux so they play on standalone dvd player
[10:46] <Xaios> Wine I believe
[10:46] <nalioth> Xaios: www.ubuntulinux.org
[10:46] <purserj> RezDawg: I've had no problems burning DVDs for replay
[10:46] <iceman64> well we will just install 172 gnome packages .. gconf was not installed
[10:46] <Mattias> hmm. how do i add stuff when my root password doesnt work when im regular user?
[10:46] <ompaul> www.ubuntu.com
[10:46] <Xaios> I really must say Ive tried linux before but this Ubuntu is really getting me hooked
[10:47] <topyli> Xaios: yes, wine works, especially its commercial incarnations. but i'd only go that direction as a last resort
[10:47] <RezDawg> purserj: how to you burn them then? ive tried gnomebake, k3b no luck
[10:47] <HappyFool> !tell Mattias about sudo
[10:47] <purserj> RezDawg: I just use k3b and an iso image
[10:48] <ompaul> Xaios, wine is not an emulator - that is on www.winehq.org but use the packages for Ubuntu if  your going to use any on ubuntu - they are the best match
[10:48] <RezDawg> purserj: making the file an iso is what im trying to do as we speak
[10:48] <ompaul> Xaios, best plan as you have been told is to use the alternatives - it is just so much less painful in the long rung
[10:48] <ompaul> s/rung/run
[10:49] <Xaios> Yes It will be a change, but Im starting to like it
[10:49] <purserj> RezDawg: how are you doing it?
[10:49] <Xaios> I just kinda miss my trillian and its super cool loging abilities, GAIM is somewhat lacking
[10:49] <RezDawg> purserj: mkisofs
[10:49] <nalioth> Xaios: most linux chat things log
[10:49] <topyli> Xaios: by the way, nautilus burns data cd's and dvd's happily, serpentine works for audio cd's. no need to launch monster applications just to burn a stupid disk :)
[10:50] <Mattias> HappyFool, but when i open Add Application it says "Failed to run /usr/bin/gnome-app-install as user root: Wrong password." even tho the same password works in the recovery mode, and i am not typing wrong
[10:50] <SSLx86> Hi, I was wondering if i dont have a CDR how can I install Ubuntu, w/o waiting for the one in the mail?
[10:50] <HappyFool> Mattias: you've enabled root then?
[10:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell SSLx86 about smartboot
[10:50] <RezDawg> purserj: how do you go about it
[10:50] <cevizoglu> Mattias, it means as virtual root, I think
[10:50] <HappyFool> Mattias: try your user's password
[10:50] <Mattias> HappyFool, i did passwd root in recovery mode, if that what ya mean
[10:51] <thenuke>  ubotu: tell thenuke about smartboot
[10:51] <Mattias> HappyFool, lol. regular user password worked: S
[10:51] <iceman> no he did not
[10:51] <HappyFool> Mattias: ok. regardless, i think the menus use sudo, not su
[10:51] <purserj> RezDawg: Usually I use something like DVDStyler
[10:51] <SSLx86> THX!
[10:51] <revpeter> hi, i have troubles with tvtime
[10:51] <Mattias> HappyFool, thought i had to use root pass. :)
[10:51] <revpeter> i have no audio
[10:51] <thenuke> Ubotu wont tell me about smartboot
[10:51] <ubotu> thenuke: I haven't a clue
[10:51] <cevizoglu> Mattias, when it says root it means virtual root, aka sudo
[10:51] <ompaul> thenuke, you know you can also "/msg ubotu query" and the conversation is private
[10:51] <revpeter> my soundcard is audigy 1 player
[10:52] <nalioth> thenuke: because you're not registered
[10:52] <thenuke> ompaul: tried that too
[10:52] <Phr0zenKore> LOL!!!! a preloader on a flash site, says -233433444%
[10:52] <Phr0zenKore> xD
[10:52] <iceman> must say the mack look is clean
[10:52] <HappyFool> Mattias: you can read the wiki page ubotu told you about to find out more about ubuntu admin/root account policy
[10:52] <thenuke> nalioth: ah ok
[10:52] <RezDawg> purserj: i couldnt find anything or anybody last night, so im still trying to burn one
[10:52] <revpeter> and avertv studio 303
[10:52] <azertyuuu> can you help me, i need to change the menustyle , but not with the "Menu Editor" , there was someting else
[10:52] <SSLx86> Nalioth I dont have a Floppy drive  :(
[10:52] <purserj> RezDawg: Thats for video I've created myself. If it's a rip of a dvd I either run "dd if=/dev/cdrom of=[target] " to create a copy or try one of the ripping packages
[10:53] <Mattias> HappyFool, do u know where i can find ati drivers install?
[10:53] <Mattias> HappyFool, fglrx drivers
[10:53] <xukun> How can I hear music from my headset(usb) I only the sound from the speakers
[10:53] <HappyFool> Mattias: read the wiki page?
[10:53] <ompaul> thenuke, do this >/msg nickserv register [SomeNotImportantPasswordHere] < then >/msg nickserv identify thepassword<
[10:53] <HappyFool> !tell Mattias about ati
[10:53] <cevizoglu> xukun, alsamixer
[10:53] <HappyFool> Mattias: if those don't work, i don't know
[10:53] <frank_b> is it possible to change the Main Menu icon?
[10:53] <Mattias> HappyFool, kk. testing now
[10:53] <azertyuuu> hey all, how can i play RealMedia Files
[10:54] <RezDawg> purserj: im a noob to linux and just googling for answers and asking in here
[10:54] <SSLx86> nalioth, is there another way cause the way the bot said needs a boot floppy :(
[10:54] <Mattias> HappyFool, E: Kunde inte hitta paketet xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:54] <Mattias>  :S
[10:54] <RezDawg> purserj: i found a url that gives command line stuff to do and hoping it will work
[10:54] <xukun> cevizoglu, I now installed alsamixergui, which option do I need to set on
[10:54] <iceman> next issue ... mounting my ntfs filesystem in linux
[10:54] <Mattias> HappyFool, i forgot to mention i always get that error, it won't find anything to install
[10:54] <nalioth> SSLx86: do you have a computer that can boot from the network?
[10:55] <HappyFool> Mattias: you need to setup your repositories
[10:55] <nalioth> iceman: read-only
[10:55] <ompaul> !tell iceman about ntfs
[10:55] <HappyFool> !tell Mattias about repositories
[10:55] <topyli> Mattias: see if apt-get update works
[10:55] <topyli> Mattias: the mirrors you are using may simply be down
[10:55] <Mattias> topyli, E: Kunde inte ppna lsfilen /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 tkomst nekas)
[10:55] <Mattias> E: Kunde inte lsa listkatalogen
[10:55] <Mattias> topyli, oh
[10:55] <nalioth> apokryphos: wake up
[10:56] <Mattias> topyli, im not really used to debian :P im used to gentoo stuff :)
[10:56] <HappyFool> Mattias: make sure you aren't running synaptic too
[10:56] <topyli> Mattias: try the regular archive.ubuntu.com repositories, with no country codes
[10:56] <HappyFool> Mattias: and you need to do 'sudo apt-get update'
[10:56] <purserj> RezDawg: That's cool, what exactly are you trying to burn? Is it a commercial dvd (for legimitate backup purposes of course) or is it a home video?
[10:56] <kokoko1> hi, someone let me know if beams.beaconhouse.edu.pk  is working?
[10:56] <RezDawg> purserj: the first of course
[10:56] <xukun> cevizoglu, I dont see a headset option in alsamixergui
[10:56] <cevizoglu> xukun, Headphon maybe?
[10:57] <purserj> Ah, okay
[10:57] <thenuke> ompaul: yea I am registered, I just never remember to identify :)
[10:58] <indypende> how can i unpack the .bz2 files?
[10:58] <ompaul> thenuke, so put it in your login script
[10:58] <iceman> ok... queston... anyone installed diablo II in linux
[10:58] <Mattias> topyli, how do i change that ?
[10:58] <kokoko1> tar jxvf
[10:58] <HappyFool> on freenode you can login to the irc server with your password (i.e., no nickserv script needed)
[10:58] <Mattias> topyli, oh i might have found it
[10:58] <azertyuuu> hey all, how can i play RealMedia Files
[10:58] <purserj> RezDawg: To be honest, when I'm backing up my DVD's the quickest way to do it is to run dvdshrink under windows. There really isn't a tool with the same level of stability and simplicity for Linux just yet. There are a couple that are close
[10:58] <HappyFool> indypende: tried bunzip2 ?
[10:58] <batman> hey does anyone know of a .wmv player?
[10:59] <topyli> Mattias: my .fi repositories didn't work the other day, switching to archive.ubuntu.com did the tric
[10:59] <topyli> trick even
[10:59] <Mattias> topyli,  archive.ubuntu.com didnt work :/
[10:59] <RezDawg> purserj: well thats what ive been doing but im trying to find ways of not rebooting into windows
[10:59] <topyli> Mattias: can you ping it?
[10:59] <Mattias> topyli, ill try
[10:59] <topyli> i can
[10:59] <johndilley> azertyuuu: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:59] <thenuke> ompaul: I dont have any login scripts, nor know if it is possible to have script which runs when I'm connecting to freenode, I never close my irssi
[11:00] <Mattias> topyli, ping: bad number of packets to transmit.
[11:00] <Mattias> topyli, ops
[11:00] <xukun> cevizoglu, I dont see that
[11:00] <purserj> RezDawg: Mind you, if the total size of the DVD you are trying to backup is less than 4.5 GB then running the following will give you a perfectly good image: dd if=/dev/cdrom(or whatever your dvd device is) of=[target file] . This will give you a bit for bit copy of the disc which you canburn using k3b without an issue
[11:00] <Mattias> topyli, ye it works
[11:00] <Mattias> topyli, 50ms
[11:00] <cevizoglu> xukun, sorry, I can't help then... I just use alsamixer ,not the gui version
[11:01] <topyli> Mattias: paste one archive.ubuntu.com line from your /etc/apt/sources.list so we can see what's wrong
[11:01] <kokoko1> hi, someone let me know if beams.beaconhouse.edu.pk  is working?
[11:01] <topyli> one line only please!
[11:01] <iceman> uboto ... i want to install and run Diablo II from in wine ... now can i copy the diablo files from my ntfs file system .. or do i need to install from in wine ?
[11:01] <Mattias> topyli, deb archive.ubuntu.com stable main contrib non-free
[11:01] <HappyFool> iceman: ubotu is a bot (a computer program)
[11:02] <topyli> Mattias: ok, that's incorrect
[11:02] <Mattias> topyli, oh
[11:02] <azertyuuu> can you help me, i need to change the menustyle , but not with the "Menu Editor" , there was someting else
[11:02] <RezDawg> purserj: so in the termial i would type 'dd if=/dev/dvd  of=newimagefile'?
[11:02] <topyli> Mattias: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted universe multiverse (you're missing the http
[11:02] <ztonzy> yay
[11:02] <purserj> RezDawg: yup
[11:02] <ztonzy> plugin works...somehow
[11:02] <xukun> cevizoglu, there is also no headphon in alsmixer either
[11:02] <HappyFool> azertyuuu: system -> preferences -> menus ?
[11:02] <aboe> kokoko1, I can see the login in firefox
[11:02] <iceman> ok ... so do i need to install Diablo II from in wine ... or can i copy it from the ntfs file system
[11:02] <ztonzy> too bad I cant download the trailers ;)
[11:02] <xukun> cevizoglu, but thanks anyway
[11:02] <kokoko1> aboe, thanks you geo location pls ?
[11:03] <cevizoglu> xukun, sounds like your system may not recognize a headphone port
[11:03] <kokoko1> your*
[11:03] <topyli> Mattias: in fact there are several errors on your line
[11:03] <azertyuuu> happyfool and in kubuntu ?
[11:03] <RezDawg> purserj: www.dvd.chevelless230.com is what im trying as we speak
[11:03] <HappyFool> iceman: i don't know. i think there are problems with needing the cd; you might need a no-cd patch of some sort
[11:03] <HappyFool> azertyuuu: ah. sorry, i don't know
[11:03] <xukun> cevizoglu, yes it does
[11:03] <aboe> netherlands kokoko1
[11:03] <Mattias> topyli, i used ur lines
[11:03] <kokoko1> ah .eu ? thanks
[11:03] <johndilley> azertyuuu: you'll probably have more luck in #kubuntu
[11:03] <iceman> HappyFool i got the cd's .. thats not a issue ...
[11:03] <aboe> kokoko1, europe yeah
[11:03] <Mattias> topyli, was some warnings now tho only
[11:03] <kokoko1> aboe, im checking it coz it not working for one of our own cient in the same country :)
[11:03] <Pickle_Weasel> is there something similar to alt-tab that will let me switch out of full screen programs, a package perhaps?
[11:04] <Mattias> topyli, about some packages that doesnt exists
[11:04] <purserj> RezDawg: what is that?
[11:04] <HappyFool> iceman: the issue is wine can't provide the cd device for copyright protection
[11:04] <topyli> Mattias: hold on, i'll upload my whole sources.list on the web for your reference
[11:04] <HappyFool> iceman: try google for 'wine diablo ii'
[11:04] <iceman> oh ... ok
[11:04] <aboe> what browser is he using?? kokoko1
[11:04] <xukun> cevizoglu, [4294709.672000]  usbcore: registered new driver snd-usb-audio
[11:04] <Mattias> topyli, nice :)
[11:05] <aboe> kokoko1, it works in opera too
[11:05] <topyli> Mattias: http://siltala.net/comp/sources.list
[11:06] <xukun> cevizoglu, do you have an "headphone" or headset in your alsamix?
[11:06] <crov> Is there mysqlcc avaible for 5.10  this dont work "sudo apt-get install mysqlcc"
[11:06] <RezDawg> purserj: it shows you how to rip and make iso and burn from the commandline
[11:06] <topyli> Mattias: only use the breezy lines if you don't know what you're doing :)
[11:06] <cevizoglu> xukun, yes, when I run alsamixer the third entry to the left says "headphon"
[11:06] <RezDawg> purserj: need a prg called dvdbackup and libdvdread to do the ripping though
[11:07] <sudeep> How do I know which kernel is best for my comp: 386,486,586 or 686
[11:07] <xukun> cevizoglu, mine says Bass
[11:07] <johndilley> sudeep: what processor do you have?
[11:08] <nalioth> apokryphos: wakey wakey
[11:08] <sudeep> I have an AMD K-6 -2 (3d) 450Mhz processor
[11:08] <johndilley> run "cat /proc/cpuinfo" to be sure, but there should be a K6 Kernel
[11:08] <purserj> RezDawg: just having a look
[11:09] <batman> hey does anyone know of a .wmv player?
[11:09] <cevizoglu> xukun, do you see it if you hold down the right arrow key on your keyboard?
[11:09] <iceman> package update error ... who can help
[11:09] <iceman> where can i past it
[11:09] <sudeep> wmv player: download w32codecs
[11:09] <topyli> iceman: the pastebin, or #flood
[11:09] <Mattias> ty
[11:09] <Mattias> its working
[11:09] <topyli> cool
[11:09] <Tipp> Hi all
[11:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell iceman about paste
[11:10] <cevizoglu> xukun, if not, it looks like the driver is there but alsa isn't detecting the usb headphones
[11:10] <ompaul> crov, sudo apt-get install mysql-admin might suit you
[11:11] <iceman> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3441
[11:11] <sudeep> I ran "cat /proc/cpuinfo" It gave me cpu family: 5 . Does that mean i shud use  586?
[11:11] <ompaul> crov, also have a look at mysql-query-browser
[11:11] <Bieleke> hi guys
[11:11] <nalioth> iceman: try your apt-get again in a few minutes
[11:11] <Bieleke> on my local ubuntu box i want to use a /home on a linux SuSE samba-server, is that possible ?
[11:11] <Tipp> may i speak rus ?
[11:11] <Bieleke> if yes... how ? nfs ?
[11:11] <RezDawg> purserj: well the command dvdrecord doesnt work
[11:11] <nalioth> Subsonix: ubuntux?
[11:12] <johndilley> sudeep: not sure. It doesn't look like there's a 586 package though, so it might have to be 386 - anyone know any different?
[11:12] <nalioth> Tipp: #ubuntu-ru
[11:12] <topyli> iceman: us.archive.ubuntu.com might be down. try archive.ubuntu.com or give the us mirror some time to recover
[11:12] <Tipp> senk
[11:12] <iceman> ok thanks
[11:12] <revpeter> #ubuntu-pl
[11:13] <iceman> brb reboot
[11:13] <xukun> cevizoglu, take a look a this please: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3443
[11:14] <indypende> i need help to install the latest skype!
[11:14] <Mattias> woho
[11:14] <Mattias> got my ati card to work :D
[11:14] <indypende> someone can link me n how-to!
[11:14] <hume> is there a way to change my ubuntu to kubuntu without a fresh install?
[11:14] <indypende> someone can link me n how-to!
[11:14] <indypende> i need help to install the latest skype!
[11:14] <Mattias> i think ubuntu cd should include the xorg-driver-fglrx drivers from start, and not use ati driver but fglrx, cus ati drivers freezes the computer
[11:14] <Bieleke> indypende, press F1 and search the help
[11:14] <azertyuuu> ubuntuguide.org
[11:15] <Subsonix> indypende: http://www.ubuntux.org/node/129
[11:15] <crov> ompaul: thnx i am installing this, as mysqlcc is no more in devolepment...
[11:15] <cevizoglu> xukun, that looks good, not sure what's going wrong then
[11:15] <topyli> hume: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:15] <[Chameleon] > Mattias: depends on the computer and card. I know it worked fine for me.
[11:15] <hume> topyli, that's it?
[11:15] <xukun> cevizoglu, hmm
[11:15] <[Chameleon] > Mattias: also, fglrx may have certain distribution restrictions.
[11:15] <sudeep> I ran "cat /proc/cpuinfo" It gave me cpu family: 5 . Can I use linux-586 kernel found on a debian site?
[11:15] <Mattias> [Chameleon] , atleast for ati radeon x600 cards :P :)
[11:16] <[Chameleon] > sudeep: what's the Model Name?
[11:16] <azertyuuu> indypende https://wiki.ubuntu.com//
[11:16] <topyli> hume: yes. it doesn't remove gnome though
[11:16] <nalioth> azertyuuu: please dont blindly advise ubuntuguide in here
[11:16] <Bieleke> sudeep, just install the kernel with synaptic
[11:16] <azertyuuu> nalioth, why ? please explain ?
[11:16] <nalioth> !ubuntuguide
[11:16] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[11:16] <Bieleke> anyone for the remote /home ?
[11:16] <Mattias> so. how do i get new programs, like amaroK, thunderbird, and stuff? and how do i do to get em to the latest
[11:16] <[Chameleon] > Mattias: synaptic
[11:17] <Bieleke> Mattias, add rep to synaptic
[11:17] <azertyuuu> SORRY FOR MY DUMBNESS
[11:17] <[Chameleon] > Mattias: otherwise, compile from source
[11:17] <sudeep> synaptic has only 386 and 686 kernels
[11:17] <topyli> Mattias: breezy has pretty recent stuff already
[11:17] <nalioth> azertyuuu: ignorance is not dumbness. ignorance can be overcome, dumbness is forever
[11:17] <Subsonix> Mattias: search function at www.ubuntux.org
[11:17] <sudeep> model:8
[11:17] <[Chameleon] > sudeep: what CPU do you have? Pentium Pro?
[11:17] <[Chameleon] > sudeep: I want the model name
[11:17] <Mattias> topyli, so. if i want the game, for example "The Mana World" how would i do?
[11:18] <[Chameleon] > sudeep: the full string
[11:18] <sudeep> [Chameleon] :AMD K-6 -2 (3d) 450 Mhz CPU
[11:18] <azertyuuu> !grub
[11:18] <cevizoglu> sudeep: synaptic has a wider variety of kernels than just 386 and 686, i.e. ppc and amd64
[11:18] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:18] <iceman64> Something is toasted ... HELP ... cannot start gnome or kde ... log in and it starts and goes right back to a login screen ... im in failsafe now
[11:18] <xukun> what app. do I need to install if want to do: play -d /dev/dsp[0,1]  /usr/share/sounds/startup.ogg
[11:18] <[Chameleon] > sudeep: use the 386 kernel.
[11:18] <cevizoglu> sudeep: actually, synaptic contains whatever your repositories point to
[11:19] <iceman64> what did i toast ... HELP ..
[11:19] <nalioth> xukun: perhaps mpg321?
[11:19] <Pinaraf> hi
[11:19] <topyli> Mattias: looks like there are no ubuntu packages. this you would have to get from the game's home page and hope they have clear installation instructions :)
[11:19] <sudeep> the 386 kernel seems to run very slow. Compared to other linux distros that i've tried, that use 586.
[11:19] <Pinaraf> when does the development of ubuntu 6.04 begins ?
[11:20] <nalioth> Pinaraf: any time now
[11:20] <hooch> does breezy have a tv viewer program?
[11:20] <Mattias> topyli, bah :P gentoo seems to have more support for this kinda stuff :P is there no way to or no resp that got even more stuff in it?
[11:20] <nalioth> hooch: yes it does
[11:20] <iceman64> Anyone good at remote rebuild or am i going to have to reinstall
[11:20] <azertyuuu> !television
[11:20] <ubotu> azertyuuu: Are you on ritalin?
[11:20] <Pinaraf> nalioth: and when will the repository appear ?
[11:20] <nalioth> Mattias: you've enabled universe and multiverse?
[11:20] <topyli> Mattias: what's the package name in gentoo?
[11:20] <nalioth> Pinaraf: your guess is as good as mine on that one
[11:20] <Pinaraf> ok
[11:20] <Mattias> topyli, in gentoo its tmw
[11:21] <Subsonix> why isn't universe and multiverse enabled by default?
[11:21] <iceman64> updated my gnome system ... lot of packages ... but now no gnome sessions  and no kde sessions all i got is failsafe
[11:21] <nalioth> Subsonix: legal reasons
[11:21] <hooch> nalioth: what's the tv app called?
[11:21] <Mattias> nalioth, ill check that. whats the diffrence?
[11:21] <nalioth> hooch: xawtv i believe
[11:21] <damienK> how can I remove the CD from the apt-get list
[11:21] <cevizoglu> !tell damienK about repositories
[11:21] <topyli> Mattias: the project's home page has debian packages. they might work
[11:21] <nalioth> Mattias: universe and multiverse contain almost the same pkgs as debian has
[11:22] <Mattias> topyli, nice ill check it
[11:22] <Mattias> nalioth, im using both
[11:22] <topyli> Mattias: they even have a repository so you can make it apt-gettable
[11:22] <iceman64> I toasted something... now i get no gnome and no kde ... i could only start failsafe ...
[11:22] <purserj> RezDawg: Sorry, got called away, have you checked to see if the dvdrecord package
[11:22] <Mattias> topyli, ah, i gotta check that
[11:23] <purserj> RezDawg: is installed
[11:23] <Severian> damienK, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and put a # at the beginning of that line.
[11:23] <iceman64> the options for kde and gnome are present .. but something wint wwrong
[11:23] <topyli> Mattias: if you're unlucky, it won't install on ubuntu. then you'd use the source repository and build your own ubuntu packages with a couple of simple commands
[11:23] <damienK> cevizoglu, thats all well but I dont have X access, I need to remove it via console
[11:23] <xukun> which application does play command belongs?
[11:23] <damienK> Severian, thx
[11:23] <RezDawg> purserj: something called dvdrtools is what it said was close
[11:23] <cevizoglu> damienK, sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:23] <damienK> cevizoglu, thx got it
[11:23] <cevizoglu> damienK, or sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list if you don't like vim
[11:23] <xukun> or beter how can I find that out
[11:24] <xukun> ?
[11:24] <Mattias> topyli, where did u find the resp?
[11:24] <damienK> vi is ok
[11:24] <topyli> Mattias: then of course you'd begin supporting it for ubuntu universe :)
[11:24] <nalioth> iceman64: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[11:24] <topyli> Mattias: http://themanaworld.org/downloads.php
[11:24] <Mattias> topyli, ty :)
[11:24] <andi> url to forum?
[11:24] <RezDawg> purserj: i have a an image file now, what do you use to burn the image file?
[11:25] <iceman64> nalioth this is a ubuntu issue ,, not just kde ... i cannot start gnome ...
[11:25] <nalioth> topyli: can you tell Mattias about compiling it from source repos?
[11:25] <ztonzy> hmm any good tip for user to let write access to XP partitions (forgot how to set fstab correct)
[11:25] <nalioth> iceman64: the channel name has nothing to regulate what goes on in it
[11:25] <purserj> k3b is what I use
[11:25] <ztonzy> !xp access
[11:25] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, ztonzy
[11:25] <[Chameleon] > ztonzy: tip: don't
[11:25] <[Chameleon] > !tell ztonzy about NTFS
[11:25] <ztonzy> [Chameleon] , I use of for games sometimes
[11:25] <topyli> nalioth: i'd prefer seeing if the binaries fail first. but i can of course give him the apt commands for building
[11:25] <nalioth> iceman64: i can help you in #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:25] <ztonzy> [Chameleon] , I use fat32
[11:26] <nalioth> topyli: debian binaries are not ubuntu binaries
[11:26] <[Chameleon] > ztonzy: ah, OK, then it's good.
[11:26] <sudeep> Can I just try instal the 686 kernel on my machine?
[11:26] <[Chameleon] > ztonzy: FAT32 is not an XP exclusive FS
[11:26] <topyli> nalioth: true enough. sometimes you get lucky though. this is a game, not many packages depend on it :)
[11:26] <ztonzy> [Chameleon] , oh really :-P ?
[11:26] <Bieleke> sudeep, only advisable when having more than 1 gig mem
[11:26] <[Chameleon] > sudeep: sure, if you want to fsck it up. Just don't have that be youru ONLY kernel.
[11:27] <Bieleke> sudeep, the 386 kernel is optimized, so no need to do that
[11:27] <[Chameleon] > sudeep: on that machine, it's not going to gain you anything.
[11:27] <hooch> thanks nalioth
[11:27] <melvztechie> guys: what player do i need so i can view movies on firefox browser directly?
[11:27] <nalioth> topyli: not a good precedent for new ubuntu users, tho
[11:27] <damienK> how can I rectify this? --> http://pastebot.nd.edu/24
[11:27] <RezDawg> purserj: under what burn a data dvd?
[11:27] <Mattias> ye. u was right, i got error when trying to install it, tmw: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0.9.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:28] <topyli> nalioth: that's true as well
[11:28] <Bieleke> how can i point my home to another linux-box that acts as server ?
[11:28] <[Chameleon] > melvztechie: try gxine
[11:28] <topyli> Mattias: so, enable the source repository and use these commands to build:
[11:28] <sudeep> melvztechie: Mplayer works for me
[11:28] <HappyFool> heh. ubuntu kernel has ide support as a module.
[11:28] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: NFS
[11:28] <topyli> Mattias: apt-get update (of course), apt-get build-depend tmw, apt-get -b source tmw
[11:28] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: For some reason NFS mounting is very slow in Ubuntu though.
[11:29] <topyli> Mattias: you should end up with packages
[11:29] <purserj> RezDawg: No, go Tools->DVD->Burn DVD ISO image
[11:29] <[Chameleon] > Bieleke: of course, it could just be that my server is running Fedora Core 3
[11:29] <nalioth> Bieleke: nfs
[11:29] <[Chameleon] > nalioth: too late, old man
[11:29] <[Chameleon] > nalioth: ;P
[11:29] <derchilligephil|> yeah, soon i have copy all my data from all ntfs to ext jfs reiser :)
[11:29] <topyli> Mattias: oh, you need to install build-essential first
[11:29] <derchilligephil|> 500 gb hard job
[11:29] <derchilligephil|> bu in 1 hour i will got it
[11:29] <melvztechie> okey guys, will try those packages: tanks
[11:30] <derchilligephil|> really nice support, thx!
[11:30] <Mattias> topyli, noticed :P apt-get build-depend tmw didnt work lol
[11:30] <[Chameleon] > derchilligephil|: good luck with that... don't come crying when reiser corrupts your data.
[11:30] <Severian> !RestrictedFormats
[11:30] <ubotu> I heard restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[11:30] <topyli> Mattias: yeah
[11:30] <Bieleke> there is an article about shfs, it that better than nfs ?
[11:30] <nalioth> Mattias: did you put the deb-src line from that site into your sources list?
[11:30] <derchilligephil|> what should i else use?
[11:30] <Mattias> nalioth, yup
[11:30] <derchilligephil|> is reiserfs not food ?
[11:30] <nalioth> topyli: Mattias: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[11:30] <derchilligephil|> good
[11:30] <derchilligephil|> im not that expert in this :)
[11:30] <[Chameleon] > derchilligephil|: I've heard it's unstable and tends to corrupt
[11:30] <topyli> Mattias: lets do as nalioth says, this is getting off topic
[11:31] <derchilligephil|> uhh
[11:31] <derchilligephil|> what
[11:31] <derchilligephil|> what should i else use?
[11:31] <[Chameleon] > derchilligephil|: could be different now though
[11:31] <ompaul> derchilligephil|, ext3
[11:31] <jareth_> anybody know how I can mount an external usb drive with hfs+ on it?
[11:31] <[Chameleon] > derchilligephil|: ext3 is good
[11:31] <derchilligephil|> yeah i use this for system and home data
[11:31] <[Chameleon] > derchilligephil|: ext3 is adequate for you
[11:31] <derchilligephil|> but i have musik on reiserfs
[11:31] <derchilligephil|> very much music
[11:31] <[Chameleon] > derchilligephil|: I've used ext3 on all my systems since it became generally available, and was using ext2 prior.
[11:32] <derchilligephil|> and working fast?
[11:32] <jareth_> will it be recognized?
[11:32] <[Chameleon] > derchilligephil|: fast enough. you're going to saturate 100mbit connection before you run into filesystem performance limits
[11:32] <derchilligephil|> i have on 1 gigabit ! :)
[11:32] <[Chameleon] > derchilligephil|: if you're on gigabit, then maybe there's a point to more performance.
[11:33] <derchilligephil|> so come one hehe
[11:33] <derchilligephil|> on
[11:33] <Severian> derchilligephil, I'd use Reiser 3 probably.  But, maybe xfs.  I don't like ext3, but not everyone agrees.
[11:33] <[Chameleon] > derchilligephil|: well, still... it's not going to be much difference.
[11:33] <derchilligephil|> i let it now as it is
[11:33] <iceman64> channel again
[11:33] <derchilligephil|> dont have so much time
[11:33] <derchilligephil|> take long to transfer 500 gigs from one hd to another
[11:33] <derchilligephil|> or to others :)
[11:33] <derchilligephil|> mhh
[11:34] <iceman64> what was that ubuntu off topic chammel
[11:34] <RezDawg> purserj: im trying it now, hope it works, what if i had audio_ts and video_ts on the HD, what do you do in linux to make iso?
[11:34] <derchilligephil|> ok finally i hope that the reiserfs is not fucking up my collection :)
[11:34] <[Chameleon] > iceman64: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:34] <derchilligephil|> i spend in years in it :)
[11:34] <[Chameleon] > derchilligephil|: you'll probably be fine
[11:34] <derchilligephil|> i hope :)
[11:34] <jareth_> anybody?
[11:34] <[Chameleon] > derchilligephil|: if you were really worried, you'd have raid striping with parity
[11:35] <derchilligephil|> yeah, but i have no time no for a second hd :)
[11:35] <[Chameleon] > jareth_: should be recognized. try it and let us know. ;)
[11:35] <derchilligephil|> a raid controller is availabe
[11:35] <derchilligephil|> maybe i will set it ip in 2-3 month :)
[11:35] <jareth_> i will.. is a small problem atm.
[11:35] <[Chameleon] > then maybe your data will be assured in 2-3 months.
[11:35] <jareth_> came frome a broken i-book.
[11:35] <Severian> derchilligephil, if it is valuable data, investr in 20 blank dvd-r disks and make a backup set.
[11:35] <derchilligephil|> hehe yeah
[11:35] <[Chameleon] > Severian: no kidding
[11:35] <jareth_> I did notice the hfd-tools package already
[11:36] <derchilligephil|> yeah maybe i will do a backup one time
[11:36] <derchilligephil|> hehe
[11:36] <derchilligephil|> no risk no fun
[11:36] <jareth_> 1st need to get usb cable.
[11:36] <derchilligephil|> is there a way to get some info about a file transer in the console
[11:36] <derchilligephil|> ive made a mv command
[11:36] <jareth_> no firewire available at old toshiba sattelite
[11:37] <derchilligephil|> and now he moves
[11:37] <derchilligephil|> but i cant see how far he is
[11:37] <jareth_> i use mv -v
[11:37] <derchilligephil|> ah, now its to late, he ? :)
[11:37] <Severian> jareth_, I have no idea, but I will have access to stuff tomorrow night to try it.  Are you in a hurry?
[11:38] <jareth_> not really
[11:38] <jareth_> is lying around for half a year now
[11:38] <jareth_> do like the 160 GB space!!!
[11:38] <test> still same problem ... kde and gnome will not start ... they attempt to .. but i get returned to a login screen after a few seconds
[11:39] <jareth_> but thanks Severian. can you let me know on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:39] <Severian> test, do you know what a virtual console is?
[11:39] <fandekimi> bonjour, je suis un utilisateur francais de ubuntu. quelqu'un peut-il m'aider ?
[11:40] <SpudULike> Hi room.  'Applications -> System Tools -> New Login' doesn't seem to do anything on my Breezy machine.  How do I get to start a new login for a different user?
[11:40] <purserj> RezDawg: You can use k3b to create the image as well. File->New Project->New Video DVD
[11:40] <Sionide> could do it from a different tty ?
[11:40] <Severian> jareth_, I'll try.  I saved the email address, but I am not at a good machine right now for email.  If you don't hear from me, check back here mid-week.
[11:40] <RezDawg> purserj: ty
[11:41] <jareth_> SpudLike try sudo apt-get install xnest
[11:41] <Sionide> SpudULike, press Ctrl+Alt+F6 - login and run the "gdm" command
[11:41] <brownie17> does anyone know if the breezy servers support resume?
[11:41] <RezDawg> purserj: you've been a great help freeing me form windoze
[11:41] <jareth_> Severian: realy thanks a lot! Any how we will get back on this issue
[11:41] <corincole> no
[11:41] <fandekimi> hello ! does anybody speak french ?
[11:41] <nalioth> !fr
[11:41] <ubotu> fr is probably Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[11:42] <corincole> can someone tell me the command to start gui from command-line?
[11:42] <brownie17> fandekimi, /join #ubuntu-fr
[11:42] <corincole> anyone?
[11:42] <setho> hi
[11:42] <brownie17> corincole, to start giu?
[11:42] <brownie17> gui*
[11:43] <corincole> yeah
[11:43] <brownie17> what do you mean. gui stands for grpahical user interface, the GUI for what exactly?
[11:43] <Severian> corincole,   startx
[11:43] <corincole> for ubuntu!
[11:43] <jareth_> SpudLike with xnest you will find in th emenu login in nested window
[11:43] <corincole> Severian, startx didnt seem to work
[11:43] <corincole> and yesterday, Seveas gave me a long phrase to use, which Ive forgotten
[11:44] <ompaul> corincole, was it sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:45] <corincole> dont think so ompaul...
[11:45] <corincole> it ended with startx
[11:45] <corincole> but that wasnt all
[11:45] <xukun> I,m having a lot of distortion with skpye. and if I call somebody I hear them but they dont hear me. Anybody having the same problem?
[11:45] <melchior_thomas> any autoreboot on the ubuntu server ppc
[11:45] <Severian> corincole,  startx is what starts the gui.  But, if you have messed it up in some way, the reconfigure takes you back through the setup.  It sounds like you need that.
[11:45] <SpudULike> jareth_: Sorry, struggling to find this emenu login.  Where would it be nested?
[11:46] <p0windah> xukun: if you are using spekers and a seperate mic. that can happen
[11:47] <ompaul> corincole, go look at this - find the log for today/yesterday remember that the time on the file may not be the time in your country  http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[11:47] <Severian> corincole, you might try sudo startx.  I've never tried to start it manually in Ubuntu, but I have done it lots of times in RedHat and Mandrake.
[11:47] <corincole> k
[11:47] <corincole> thanks
[11:47] <xukun> p0windah, I hate to say but this doesnt happen if I use windows
[11:47] <tbaa> hi
[11:47] <xukun> so no it doesnt happen
[11:47] <jareth_> SPudULike look at applications / system-tools / login in nested window
[11:47] <Severian> xukun, I have a skype setup.  Did you get a volunteer yet?
[11:48] <NixNewby> How do I see what version of Ubuntyu im running?
[11:48] <xukun> Severian, volunteer? no
[11:49] <NixNewby> *Ubuntu
[11:49] <KenSentMe> hi, i've installed skype using this HowTo : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto on 2 different machines, but when i try to type my password it's stops at the charachters like # and $. So, i can't loginwith my password that works for Windows
[11:49] <HappyFool> 'lsb_release -r' on the command-line, or system -> about ubuntu
[11:49] <jareth_> SpudULike: you got it working?
[11:49] <SpudULike> jareth_: I did apt-get xnest but I do not have 'login' in my menu, only 'New login' which does nothing.
[11:49] <p0windah> kennethlove: have you checked/searched the skype forums ?
[11:50] <xukun> Severian, which setup?
[11:50] <StarKruzr> hey guys, if I apt-get install xubuntu will it automagically deselect metacity for me and install and configure xfce?
[11:50] <p0windah> KenSentMe: have you checked/searched the skype forums ?
[11:50] <jareth_> SpudULike: new login in nested window is the menu-entry
[11:50] <NixNewby> Hey Im on an OLD version I dont have a SYSTEM menu
[11:50] <p0windah> kennethlove: sorry
[11:50] <KenSentMe> p0windah, yes, but i didn't find somethin there
[11:50] <p0windah> KenSentMe: submit a bug report to the skype guys
[11:50] <KenSentMe> p0windah, i asked it earlier here, but i thought it might be because i'm on a laptop, but now it's on my second desktop system too
[11:51] <RezDawg> NixNewby: i use cntrl+alt+f1 to take down the gui and then cntrl+alt+f7 afterward to bring it back up
[11:51] <Severian> xukun, My skype is not on Ubuntu.  What is your skype name, so I can allow you to call me?
[11:51] <SpudULike> jareth_: Ah, maybe I need to do something first. I have created another user but do I need to do anything else to the account to allow them to log in by this xnest method?
[11:51] <jareth_> NixNewby:  type in any terminal uname -a
[11:51] <p0windah> KenSentMe: submit bug report to skype guys, or go into windows and change your password to use standard alphanumeric characters
[11:51] <jareth_> SpudULike: nope
[11:51] <NixNewby> how can I upgrade from 4.10 to latest?
[11:52] <bradd> hey guys.. I'm having a problem getting some standard stuff 'like libttf' (using breezy) .. anyone know of any extras/backports sites are up for breezy?
[11:52] <jareth_> SpudULike: do 1st:  sudo kill gnome-panel
[11:52] <SpudULike> Hmm, nothing comes from 'New login' then, no further options.
[11:52] <jareth_> SpudULike: and look again in th emenu
[11:52] <corincole> ompaul, i just remembered it was over pm, i doubt u have my pm logs?
[11:52] <corincole> :P
[11:52] <RezDawg> jareth_: wont that just show which kernel he is running?
[11:52] <NixNewby> Is there an update howto from 4.10?
[11:52] <StarKruzr> NixNewby: by a process similar to this: (nsfw) http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php?date=2005-10-05&res=l
[11:52] <SpudULike> jareth_: Excuse my ignorance, what is emenu?#
[11:52] <xukun> Severian, lets do that on privet
[11:53] <jareth_> yep thats true sorr
[11:53] <Madpilot> !+breezy
[11:53] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:53] <Madpilot> NixNewby: see ubotu above ^^^
[11:53] <slibs> hello
[11:53] <NixNewby> Why Am i using WART?
[11:53] <jareth_> but when login in he should get log-in message
[11:53] <Severian> xukun, I am fairly new to irc.  What do I do?
[11:53] <RezDawg> 4.10=wart
[11:53] <slibs> is there a way to open (and umount automaticly ) cdrom from terminal
[11:53] <jareth_> SPudULike look at applications / system-tools / new login in nested window
[11:53] <NixNewby> Thats for people upgrading from Hoary im using Warty
[11:54] <StarKruzr> hey guys, if I apt-get install xubuntu will it automagically deselect metacity for me and install and configure xfce?
[11:54] <RezDawg> just change warty to breezy
[11:54] <slibs> i mean open the cd-drive
[11:54] <p0windah> StarKruzr: should
[11:54] <xukun> Severian, I have no idea either
[11:54] <StarKruzr> p0windah, thanks
[11:54] <jareth_> see you later
[11:54] <StarKruzr> I think I'm gonna give it a try
[11:55] <Severian> xukun, let me try something.
[11:55] <xukun> guys who do I start a prive chat with somebody else?
[11:55] <p0windah> ??
[11:55] <slibs> why do you haveto private?
[11:55] <xukun> Severian, my firewall or yours will not let that
[11:55] <zaydana> is there any way apart from sudo to gain root user privileges in ubuntu?
[11:56] <nalioth> zaydana: sure there is
[11:56] <Severian> I assume he wants to keep his skype id private.
[11:56] <nalioth> zaydana: but it's not advised
[11:56] <zaydana> cos i accidentally chown'd the /etc/suduers to be owned by a non-root account, now i can't sudo at all :( so i can't chown either
[11:56] <ekto> hi, anyone know who i should talk to about someone trying to sell ubuntu on ebay?
[11:56] <p0windah> who wants to test skype again ?
[11:56] <p0windah> I'm bored and dont mind dishing out my id
[11:56] <zaydana> nalioth, could u tell me any of them? pretty please :)
[11:57] <samu2> How do you transfer files between an ubuntu and an XP computer?
[11:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell zaydana about root
[11:57] <StarKruzr> samu2: what have you tried so far?
[11:57] <Severian> ekto, as long as they are honest about it, I believe selling it is allowed.
[11:58] <StarKruzr> nothing stopping anyone from selling Ubuntu
[11:58] <StarKruzr> it's Free software
[11:59] <StarKruzr> the assumption is that if you sell it to someone you're going to support it for them, but if someone is going to sell a Free distro to someone for $50 and not promise them anything, that's pretty low but the GPL doesn't stop them
[11:59] <zaydana> nalioth, problem is - to get root access with all those methods
[11:59] <zaydana> u need to use sudo in the first place :(
[11:59] <KenSentMe> p0windah, i thought of the idea to change my password, but that's not the right solution to the problem is it?
[11:59] <nalioth> zaydana: then i guess you have to use sudo at least once
[12:00] <NixNewby> I am having trouble upgrading using synaptic, anyone have a good sources list i can borrow?
[12:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell NixNewby about sources
[12:00] <corincole> ive installed ntfstools , how can I run it?
[12:00] <ekto> severian, nowhere do they mention that it is free
[12:00] <samu2> StarKruzr, nothing yet.
[12:00] <zaydana> nalioth - problem is, i screwed sudo up
[12:00] <corincole> or is there a better way to view files on my windows partition?
[12:00] <nalioth> corincole: what do you want to do to your ntfs partition?
[12:00] <p0windah> KenSentMe: no its not, but its probably faster than emailing the skype guys and waiting for a patch
[12:00] <corincole> nalioth: open/edit files on it
[12:00] <corincole> and use wine to run programs from it
[12:01] <zaydana> nalioth, i modified the /etc/sudoers file so its owned by me on accident, now sudo just dies with an error.  I cant seem to find an option to do so in network configuration
[12:01] <StarKruzr> it complained about "smbmnt needs to be installed suid root" or something
[12:01] <corincole> nalioth, cant i access windows files somehow?
[12:01] <samu2> StarKruzr, ack, I like stuff that just works.
[12:01] <ekto> he's been selling blender3d and other free software aswell
[12:01] <nalioth> zaydana: boot to the rescue mode
[12:01] <NixNewby> K that didnt help at all, Like I was saying anyone have a good BREEZY sources list so I can upgrade from warty?
[12:01] <p0windah> StarKruzr: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:02] <StarKruzr> if anyone here is a Samba-on-Ubuntu wizard, please let us know.
[12:02] <zaydana> ah k
[12:02] <nalioth> corincole: read-only is the safe way. writing to ntfs can lead to partition loss
[12:02] <StarKruzr> p0windah: does that mean that after a shutdown -r now it should have worked too?  because it didn't
[12:02] <NixNewby> I allready know how to enable universe and multivers
[12:02] <corincole> how can i do read-only then?
[12:02] <nalioth> ubotu: tell NixNewby about upgrade2breezy
[12:02] <p0windah> StarKruzr: if it didnt, check the settings of your dhcp server
[12:02] <nalioth> NixNewby: and that sources list WAS for breezy
[12:02] <NixNewby> I have allready read that
[12:03] <p0windah> StarKruzr: its possible your dhcp server has leased the ip to your mac for X days/hours