[20:40] <nit-wit> mudit1141, cool hold on
[20:40] <grkblood> yes im on ubuntu
[20:41] <grkblood> i updated to 10.10 last night
[20:41] <chovynz> #Grub
[20:41] <birdman_>
[20:41] <MAthes> irc.siberortam.net
[20:41] <magicianlord> Sorbo_: ubuntu comes with an opensource graphic driver that should work by itself.
[20:41]  * Garzooka is still here
[20:41] <grkblood> ZykoticK9, thats there
[20:41] <jodlajodla> hello, i have problem with compiz - i remove it by mistake and then installed it after that, but when i want to enable visual effects is nothing happened
[20:41] <grkblood> login automatically
[20:41] <MAthes> irc.siberortam.net
[20:41] <MAthes> come on
[20:41] <grkblood> but it still asks me for a PW
[20:41] <Sorbo_> magicianlord: it does, i'm typing this from a ubuntu livecd, works like a charm
[20:41] <chovynz> Sorbo_: have you tried following this? http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[20:41] <chrislustic> HI there, I need to increase my fanspeed, I have the fancontrol installed from synaptic, but I don't know how to acess the fan control app im running ubuntu 10.10
[20:41] <MAthes> irc.siberortam.net   come on everybody here
[20:41] <Sorbo_> chovynz: both hdd's havent been swapped
[20:41] <erUSUL> jodlajodla: if you run « compiz --replace » in a terminal what happens?
[20:42] <DJones> MAthes: Please don't spam
[20:42] <MAthes> ok
[20:42] <aleiex> hi i want to modify an .bin file; but don't know how to open it
[20:42] <aleiex> any idea?
[20:42] <jodlajodla> erUSUL plz wait
[20:42] <chovynz> thank you itaylor57
[20:42] <erUSUL> aleiex: what type of *.bin ?
[20:42] <Cipher-0> vi opens everything.
[20:42] <ZykoticK9> aleiex, .bin usually means binary - not something you'd be able to "open" usually
[20:42] <Cipher-0> :)
[20:42] <chrislustic> HI there, I need to increase my fanspeed, I have the fancontrol installed from synaptic, but I don't know how to acess the fan control app im running ubuntu 10.10
[20:42] <Sorbo_> chovynz: checking out your link now.
[20:43] <jodlajodla> erUSUL it works!!! thanks :):):)
[20:43] <aleiex> Isn't a .bin from ubuntu
[20:43] <aleiex> is from a DS game
[20:43] <aleiex> i need to open to change button config
[20:43] <Varc> What is the command for be out the root terminal in the normal terminal
[20:43] <MAthes> DJones: How are you?
[20:43] <chrislustic> HI there, I need to increase my fanspeed, I have the fancontrol installed from synaptic, but I don't know how to acess the fan control app im running ubuntu 10.10
[20:44] <LjL> aleiex: then i guess what you want is a hex editor..
[20:44] <ZykoticK9> !repeat | chrislustic
[20:44] <erUSUL> !rootshell | Varc
[20:44] <aleiex> LjL thnx
[20:44] <Sorbo_> Chovynz: Looks like that might help, thanks for the tip. Trying that now
[20:44] <chrislustic> i dooon tcare
[20:45] <chovynz> Sorbo_: np. I was tearing my hair out too :)
[20:45] <chrislustic> it should be relatively simple for some one who is well integrated  with linux to do what I need to do,
[20:45] <Varc> erUSUL: But how can i be out? I mind write with Victor@PC
[20:45] <erUSUL> Varc: type « exit » hit enter or do crtl + D
[20:46] <chovynz> How do I access the web or an internet page, from the command line?
[20:46] <Varc> -.-... I can't believe thanks
[20:46] <erUSUL> chovynz: you can use lynx w3c links2 etc ...
[20:46] <erUSUL> !info w3c | chovynz
[20:46] <erUSUL> !info w3m | chovynz
[20:47] <erUSUL> sorry typo
[20:47] <linuxnoob73> i have no sound in empathy any suggestions
[20:47] <guntbert> !attitude | chrislustic
[20:47] <chovynz> erUSUL: so I'd have to install a text browser?
[20:47] <chrislustic> perhaps you should under stand free speech guntbert
[20:47] <chrislustic> I merely stated my opinion
[20:47] <erUSUL> chovynz: w3m is installed in all ubuntu installs
[20:48] <chrislustic> I am free to express how I feel, in any circumstance,
[20:48] <guntbert> chrislustic: if you want support you better adhere to the rules of this channel
[20:48] <magicianlord> chrislustic: how so?
[20:48] <nit-wit> mudit1141, I'm not as familiar with grub-legacy as grub2, if it was me I would just download the supergrub disc and see if you can get in. You could also psot a thread at the ubuntu forums and probably get it fixed post the script in its whole just the full text in continuous stanzas in code tags.
[20:48] <chrislustic> oh so the rules contradict peoples rights?
[20:48] <nit-wit> *post
[20:49] <Barnabas> chrislustic, only technical opinions matter in here - the rest is best done in the #chat channel
[20:49] <chrislustic> yes best
[20:49] <chrislustic> I do have a matter
[20:49] <endrien> I'm trying to install Ati Catalyst drivers(ver 10.12, 32bit) and when I try to install via terminal it says the checksum is different. I've downloaded multiple times from multiple websites
[20:49] <[lan3y]> christlustic, then state your matter, and wait for a response, not difficult or breaching any rights is it?
[20:50] <chovynz> I think you guys have missed chrislustic's matter, and are now being a little unfair.
[20:50] <mudit1141> nit-wit: okies, I will post on the ubuntu forums. Thanks ! :)
[20:50] <chrislustic> my matter is,
[20:51] <chrislustic> that I need to increase my fanspeed,  I have the fan control sensor package installed correctly,  I am new to ubuntu linux in general and I do not know how to access it
[20:51] <chrislustic> or where it has gone after I have installed it,
[20:52] <[lan3y]> chrislustic, take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42737
[20:52] <guntbert> chrislustic: how did you install it (what package was it)?
[20:52] <chrislustic> it's called fan control from synaptic,
[20:52] <disappearedng_> hey i need help urgently how do I get ubuntu to output to projector?
[20:53] <sudipta> hi guys :=)
[20:53] <Luretryne> After installing ntop how to I enable it an run it like top
[20:53] <endrien> I'm trying to install Ati Catalyst drivers(ver 10.12, 32bit) and when I try to install via terminal it says the checksum is different and won't install. I've downloaded multiple times from multiple websites
[20:53] <chrislustic> as for whoever sent me that link, I am new to ubuntu, I understand the concept of most, but sudo this and sudo that is still beyond my certainty
[20:53] <chovynz> insteresting. itaylor57 erUSUL : Why would w3m display "Can't load urladdressthat i typed in"
[20:53] <magicianlord> is ubuntu faster than debian?
[20:53] <erUSUL> chovynz: dunno... can you ping the site?
[20:54] <fribanana> disappearedng_: Shutdown. Connect the cable. Boot. (The Ctrl Alt Delete combo doesn't work anymore...)
[20:54] <Guest44523> nope
[20:54] <brontoeee> disappearedng, i played with twinview and selected clone i think, depends on if nvidia is present, dunno about noveau
[20:54] <chovynz> um, just by ping http://ss64.com/bash/ ?
[20:54] <guntbert> chrislustic: open a terminal and type fancontrol
[20:54] <chrislustic> for some reason this keeps me from trying
[20:54] <endrien> is there anyway to bypass checksum resilys?
[20:54] <chrislustic> HOWTO: Fancontrol
[20:54] <endrien> results*
[20:54] <chrislustic> Controlling the speed (and sound!) of your CPU fan is easy!
[20:54] <chrislustic> Disclaimer: this can ruin your hardware. A CPU fan is needed to cool your CPU and in this howto it will be turned off for a couple of seconds. If you are not comfortable with doing this, don't!
[20:54] <fribanana> disappearedng_: Yep, if you've got the nvidia software installed, check there
[20:54] <FloodBot2> chrislustic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:54] <chrislustic> okay terminal open
[20:54] <MAthes> laa
[20:54] <MAthes> hiþþ
[20:54] <MAthes> baksana az
[20:55] <chovynz> erUSUL: says unknown host
[20:55] <chrislustic> one sec
[20:55] <chrislustic> bacon bruning
[20:55] <chrislustic> burn*
[20:55] <erUSUL> chovynz: dns problem ? can you ping an ip?
[20:56] <chovynz> uh...
[20:56] <linxeh> what do I need to install on ubunut 10.10 to be able to play an avi file that contains dv format video (mpeg2 I guess) ?
[20:56] <chovynz> would pinging itself work?
[20:56] <erUSUL> chovynz: for example « ping <IP_ADDRESS> » (is a google server )
[20:56] <magicianlord> linxeh: no
[20:56] <magicianlord> linxeh: install vlc
[20:56] <linxeh> magicianlord: no ? :p
[20:57] <chovynz> erUSUL:  connect: Network is unreachable
[20:57] <chrislustic> OKay fan control wasnt installed I guess, it told me the command to install it now apparently its installed
[20:57] <magicianlord> does anyone have a good listing of radio music stations to use in vlc, now that shoutcast doesnt work in vlc anymore?
[20:57] <erUSUL> chovynz: looks like you are not connected to internet ...
[20:57] <chovynz> how else can I test that?
[20:58] <chovynz> (or enable that)
[20:58] <erUSUL> chovynz: depends on the setup you have for connecting to internet
[20:58] <guntbert> !who | chrislustic
[20:59] <brontoeee> linxeh, no dv is not mpeg2 and yes vlc will play that, or mplayer
[20:59] <erUSUL> chovynz: wifi + router; usb *dsl modem? 3g modem? cable + router? cable modem?
[20:59] <vince> !help
[21:00] <chovynz> erUSUL: obviously I'm connected on this computer, but not the computer next to me that I'm trying these commands on. from the hardware setup it all looks the same and connected so it must be a router / software prob.
[21:00] <chrislustic> guntbert
[21:00] <vince> Hi, is there a french ubuntu channel around here ?
[21:00] <ZykoticK9> !fr | vince
[21:00] <endrien> My ipod classic 80gb shows up in lsusb, but It doesn't show up in Nautilus or anywhere else?
[21:00] <gpc> vince: #ubuntu-fr
[21:00] <vince> thanks a lot :)
[21:00] <erUSUL> chovynz: compare the output of this two commands in both computers « ip a » and « ip route »
[21:00] <linxeh> brontoeee: vlc fails to play it properly (I get alsorts of random audio noises) but it did suffice for what I wanted - identifying the video files
[21:00] <linxeh> thanks
[21:01] <erUSUL> !ipod | endrien
[21:01] <chrislustic> !guntbert
[21:01] <chrislustic> chrislustic@chrislustic-iMac:~$ sudo apt-get install toshutils
[21:01] <weebit> I just have a simple question hopefully someone can answer.  I was thinking about getting Ubuntu Studio.  Because I use graphics, video, etc a lot.  Is there really a advatage to getting this?  Or am I better off just getting the regular ubuntu?
[21:01] <chrislustic> [sudo] password for chrislustic:
[21:01] <chrislustic> Reading package lists... Done
[21:01] <chrislustic> Building dependency tree
[21:01] <FloodBot2> chrislustic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:01] <chrislustic> Reading state information... Done
[21:02] <guntbert> chrislustic: you will have to configure fancontrol before using it - for this type sudo pwmconfig and answer the questions (take care: it will temporarily stop your fans, make sure to check that they are running again afterwwards)
[21:02] <chovynz> weebit: likely. lots of config already done for you
[21:02] <zs1mtb> how do I reinstall a corrupt gnome desktop
[21:02] <chovynz> erUSUL: anything in particular im looking for?
[21:03] <erUSUL> chovynz: default gateaway in « ip route » oputput could be the problem
[21:03] <chrislustic> did anyone read that?
[21:03] <zs1mtb> how do I reinstall a corrupt gnome desktop
[21:03] <erUSUL> chovynz: the line that says « default via $someip dev $iface ... »
[21:04] <janet> hi there - something is amiss with one of my ubuntu installs - its a windows install so it looks like ubuntu sits inside a loopback FS inside the main ntfs filesystem - after rebooting, windows boot manager does its stuff and when i get to grub it goes straight to a grub promt. apart from learning how to use grub, anything i should know about before troubleshooting?
[21:04] <bp7lax> zs1mtb: make a startup disk
[21:04] <CG`> Has anyone here every set up an Ubuntu media center with live television? I'm having a lot of trouble getting it to run, having tried Moovida and XBMC
[21:04] <CG`> *ever
is there no way of reinstalling the gnome desktop via terminal?
[21:05] <chovynz> erUSUL: Have no such line on either of these computers
[21:05] <bp7lax> zs1mtb: no
[21:05] <erUSUL> !wubi | janet this wiki has troubleshooting section on wubi installs
[21:05] <Barnabas> CG`, what about myth server ?
[21:05] <adil__> hello allo
[21:05] <erUSUL> chovynz: are you sure?
[21:05] <bp7lax> zs1mtb: there might be, but that would be rare
[21:05] <janet> ubottu - thanks i'll take a look
[21:05] <eurisko> someone here uses ubuntu on a macbook 3,1 ?
[21:05] <adil__> i need help but my english is so poor
[21:06] <raven> installed bootloader to mbr of three hdds - now computer stucks at reading bootloader - how to repair?
[21:06] <adil__> how can post a node to facebook please
[21:06] <adil__> ?
[21:06] <chovynz> erUSUL: Sorry, I missed it. yes there is on this one only.
[21:06] <erUSUL> adil__: maybe you can go to your native language channel ?
[21:06] <chovynz> erUSUL: perhaps my dhcp is screwed up?
[21:07] <erUSUL> chovynz: then that's the problem. the other nees a default gateaway too ( the same as the first one if they connect to the same router )
I have a situation where my desktop does not show screen correctly and only gives ,e one desktop. However if I logout and back in then it seems to be working fine.... just that when the displays are correct the machine tend to lock up
[21:07] <chovynz> erUSUL: can I pm you privately my setup?
[21:07] <erUSUL> chovynz: dunno; how did you configured the connection ?
[21:07] <erUSUL> chovynz: i prefer a pastebin
[21:07] <bp7lax> zs1mtb: you might just want to reinstall it
[21:07] <erUSUL> !paste | chovynz
[21:08] <zs1mtb> reinstall the desktop or the distro?
[21:08] <erUSUL> chovynz: even if you want to send the url only to me for whatever reason
[21:08] <bp7lax> zs1mtb: desktop
[21:08] <chovynz> erUSUL: just so I don't broadcast my setup to teh entire world :)
[21:09] <zs1mtb> ok I'm a bit stu pid... how doe I reinstall the desktop?
[21:09] <bp7lax> zs1mtb: i had the same problem as you but on my netbook so i just reinstalled
[21:09] <gtklocker> hi
[21:09] <gtklocker> where can I find a live cd which supports BCM (broadcom) wifi drivers?
[21:09] <bp7lax> zs1mtb: so am i lol.  are you using ubuntu right now?
yes 10.04
[21:10] <erUSUL> gtklocker: out of the box? it is impossible for legal reasons
[21:10] <erUSUL> gtklocker: noone can distribute the firmware of the cards legally except Broadcom
i upgraded from 9.10 and the machine locked up.. had to restart and then the problem started
[21:10] <bp7lax> zs1mtb: im going to private message you, to hard to see here
[21:11] <erUSUL> gtklocker: that's why no linux distro supports them out of the box;
[21:11] <zs1mtb> ok
[21:11] <gtklocker> erUSUL: k
[21:11] <raven> machine stucks at "searching for boot record from ide0 ok" - whats going on there?
[21:12] <magicianlord> does anyone know when the next debian release will be?
[21:12] <magicianlord> raven: did you add new hard drive?
[21:12] <erUSUL> magicianlord: #debian should know better
[21:12] <magicianlord> erUSUL: :( that makes me cry
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> gtklocker: you could remaster the CD possibly
[21:12] <raven> magicianlord, its with four hdds on three machines
[21:13] <ge2x> Hey guys! What package does the command "which" belong to?
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> ge2x: try:   dpkg -S which
[21:13] <erUSUL> ge2x: dpkg -s $(type -P which)
[21:13] <erUSUL> ge2x: dpkg -S $(type -P which)
[21:13] <raven> magicianlord, its with four hdds on three machines
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. If i scanned a film negative.. and well.. now i need to Un-negetive it. :) cant seem to find a item in GIMP to do that.. or am i looking for the wrong thing?
[21:14] <chovynz> erUSUL: here's a start
[21:14] <chovynz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/556944/
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: show off
[21:14] <erUSUL> ;P
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> :D
[21:14] <craigbass1976> My screen has gone wonky.  Without rebooting, what else can I do?  I tried restarting x11-common... no love
[21:15] <raven> machine stucks at "searching for boot record from ide0 ok" - whats going on there?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> raven_: is the drive healthy?
[21:15] <magicianlord> no one is answering in #debian.
[21:15] <magicianlord> what is this
[21:15] <erUSUL> chovynz: how did you configured the connection in the ubuntu server machine? using /etc/network/interfaces ?
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> magicianlord:  i would say chefk the debian homepage.
[21:16] <craigbass1976> magicianlord: you might be lucky; #debian can get a little rowdy, last I knew
[21:16] <ge2x> erUSUL: I'm running Linux without a package manager
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> ge2x: ubuntu uses a package manager
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> ge2x: so you MUSThave one
[21:17] <ge2x> ActionParsnip: I'm not running Ubuntu
[21:17] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1104096.html <<< google found this
[21:17] <craigbass1976> Dr_Willis: /etc/init.d/x11-common will restart x, yes?  What's the ubuntu equivalent of RH's init 3 ?
[21:17] <chovynz> erUSUL: I haven't configured anything yet, however, when I had the server HD on THIS machine I could access <IP_ADDRESS>, and it could access the server (only there was no info on it.) I then moved my server HD to another box, so that I could have the server and this machine running at the same time. TBC
[21:17] <guntbert> !nox | craigbass1976
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> erUSUL:  been googling also. seems i might of scanned as a slide insteda of a negative. :) the scanner software is supposd to do the conversion.
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> ge2x: i see, then your support for your OS isn't here. This is Ubuntu support only
[21:18] <erUSUL> ge2x: then how are we supposed to know in which package ( you have no package manager so no packages ) would you find it?
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> craigbass1976:  i do 'sudo service gdm restart' the init,d/stuff is rather outdated
[21:18] <StrangeCharm> how fast is nfs over ssh (compared to sftp, for instance)
[21:18] <chovynz> erUSUL: I fixed up teh probs that moving teh HD caused and now I have two running machines. one desktop, one server. Only this time, the server doesn't seem to work the way It was setup from a blank server install.
[21:19] <ge2x> erUSUL: well I need to find out which package I should compile to get that command
[21:19] <erUSUL> chovynz: what i am asking is how do you set up the connection in the server ... you use /etc/network/interfaces ?
[21:19] <craigbass1976> Dr_Willis: but it does the same thing, yes?  I got used to service when I was running fedora, but ubuntu (dapper I think) didn't have that, so I got "un-used" to it
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> erUSUL:  yea.. it looks a lot better if i learned to use the scanenr software. :)
[21:19] <chovynz> erUSUL: Nope. I haven't done anything like that yet.
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> craigbass1976:  service command has been around for quite a few releases of ubuntu now.
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> craigbass1976:  its not identcial to rh's but its close.
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> !info debianutils | ge2x
[21:19] <ge2x> erUSUL: maybe U could see which package it belongs to on You system
[21:20] <erUSUL> ge2x: which is a highly nonstandar command that each distro code themselves in ubuntu is in debian-utils
[21:20] <erUSUL> ge2x: you should be using bash's type -P or hash
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> ge2x: in ubuntu, the package debianutils gives it, now please head to the channel for your distro as this is ONLY ubuntu support. If you aren't using Ubuntu then you should not be requesting support here
[21:21] <Frijolie> how do you add the JDBC/ODBC driver to your path (environment variable)?
[21:21] <Frijolie> every article you read tells you to put it somewhere's else
[21:22] <erUSUL> chovynz: so how did the machine got his ip? did you manually did a « sudo dhclient eth0 » or something?
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> Frijolie: in ~/.bashrc    add:   export PATH=$PATH:/new/folder
[21:22] <chovynz> apparently it was set automatically by dhcp in teh setup.
[21:22] <Frijolie> ActionParsnip, where is the recommeded path for the executables /usr/bin?
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> Frijolie: anywhere in $PATH is fine
[21:23] <chovynz> erUSUL: am I getting a conflict here of the router trying to set a server ip?
[21:23] <erUSUL> chovynz: paste the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces file, please
[21:23] <chovynz> of this machine or the server?
[21:23] <Frijolie> ActionParsnip, so create a new folder (somewhere in the path) and add the new line to ~/.bashrc ?
[21:23] <erUSUL> the server
[21:24] <Frijolie> ActionParsnip, after copying the executable into the "new folder"
[21:24] <Garzooka> actionparsnip its been ages since we met last
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> Frijolie: if you make a new folder ANYWHERE, then add the folder to $PATH it will be fine
[21:24] <erUSUL> StrangeCharm: nfs can not work over ssh
[21:24] <hd1> ldz: no
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> Garzooka: not rememberig, sorry :(
[21:24] <tizr> On openbsd I can use ktrace and kdump to find where files are that a process accesses.  What is the linux method for doing this?
[21:25] <hd1> tizr: lsof?
[21:25] <StrangeCharm> erUSUL, not according to http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/117705/49/ . why won't it?
[21:25] <branflakes138> ey
[21:25] <tizr> hd1: thank you
[21:25] <linuxnoob73> empathy is to simple for me is kopete any better?
[21:25] <hd1> tizr: just a guess, though, I use FreeBSD, haven't used open in many years
[21:25] <erUSUL> tizr: ktrace == strace
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> linuxnoob73: try it and see
[21:25] <mongy> About fglrx... I thought there was no need for an xorg.conf, yet with fglrx installed there is one, and if I remove it, my system boots up and goes absolutely crazy.  I only removed it as part of troubleshooting the stuttering I'm seeing in videos and my zsnes/mame games.
[21:26] <linuxnoob73> im installing
[21:26] <calvin> quit
[21:27] <linuxnoob73> ActionParsnip, how did you whisper?
[21:27] <chovynz> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/556948/
[21:27] <erUSUL> StrangeCharm: i stand corrected
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> linuxnoob73: I didn't. I just wrote your nick to address the text to you
[21:28] <ecc> ive followed steps perfectly according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/T101MT and touchscreen calibration is still not working, read through forum thread, no help
[21:28] <linuxnoob73> ActionParsnip, oh it shows red lol
[21:29] <erUSUL> chovynz: should just work ... try  « sudo restart networking »
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> linuxnoob73: yes, the channel has 1524 users in so randomly just typing isn't really practical
[21:29] <Frijolie> ActionParsnip, you have to log off/in once you've saved the changes to .bashrc?
[21:29] <raven> machine stucks at "searching for boot record from ide0 ok" - whats going on there?
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> Frijolie: no, it is read next time you open a new terminal, or you can run:   source ~/.bashrc    to re-read the config
[21:29] <zachlr> I'm trying to install ubuntu from a disc, but it hangs at they keyboard layout (step 3/7) screen. Help!
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> Frijolie: you can test using:  echo $PATH
[21:30] <magicianlord> zachlr: reburn the disc
[21:30] <magicianlord> slow speed
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> zachlr: did you test the CD for defects?
[21:30] <kanupatar_> hai all, how can i install a *.bin file in ubuntu
[21:30] <erUSUL> kanupatar_: what *.bin file?
[21:30] <zachlr> magicianlordm ActionParsnip, It worked a while ago on another machine.  it's worth reburning I guess.
[21:30] <preller> i have a 100% correct configured wireless network but it isn't working (10.10 32bit, netinstall) anyone wants to help?
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> kanupatar_: chmod +x /path/to/filename; /path/to/filename
[21:30] <zachlr> ActionParsnip, not sure how to test it.
[21:31] <raven> machine stucks at "searching for boot record from ide0 ok" - whats going on there?
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> preller: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[21:31] <preller> ActionParsnip: nope
[21:31] <chovynz> i typed view interfaces, how do i exit view?
[21:31] <magicianlord> raven: fstab may not pointing to the right disk partition
[21:31] <guntbert> !md5sum | zachlr
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> zachlr: when the CD starts to boot, press SPACE and you will get the old menu, you can test the CD and the RAM from there
[21:31] <KM0201> is there a program you can use to make sure all metadata of a photo is erased?
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> preller: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan   do you see SSIDs?
[21:32] <StrangeCharm> how do i mount an encrypted drive on 10.10 server?
[21:32] <zachlr> ActionParsnip, I'll try that.  thanks.
[21:32] <raven> magicianlord, as i said with 4 hdds on 3 different machines - possible?
[21:32] <realubot> When trying to open files using different kind of software the "Nautilus" like window doesn't let me choose the right file? I get another file than the file I choose. What is happening?
[21:32] <chovynz> StrangeCharm: it would be something like mount /dev/sda1 wouldn't it?
[21:32] <preller> ActionParsnip: yes, im connected to one.
[21:32] <kanupatar_> chmod: missing operand after `+x'
[21:32] <Frijolie> ActionParsnip, thanks, I think it's working!
[21:32] <Jordan_U> raven: Do you see any more output if you hold shift during boot?
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> kanupatar_: you need to specify the filename, it will mark it as executable
[21:34] <raven> Jordan_U, no
[21:34] <magicianlord> raven: did you reburn it
[21:34] <magicianlord> or try usb
[21:34] <StrangeCharm> chovynz, mount complains 'unknown fulesystem 'crypto_LUKS'
[21:34] <raven> ok
[21:35] <kanupatar_> getting this error  http://paste.ubuntu.com/556951/
[21:35] <Jordan_U> raven: That message is coming from your BIOS, and GRUB would normally print "GRUB" to the screen very early (basically the first thing it does), so it sounds like your BIOS isn't getting that far.
[21:35] <Jordan_U> raven: Has any other OS worked on this machine recently?
[21:36] <raven> Jordan_U, yes ubuntu
[21:36] <raven> Jordan_U, and i have this problem with 4 hdds on 3 different machines
[21:36] <Jordan_U> raven: What version? When did you start having this problem?
[21:36] <kanupatar_> any idea?
[21:36] <raven> Jordan_U, 10.4 just now
[21:36] <skiwithpete> hi
[21:37] <Jordan_U> raven: So 10.04 worked previously but 10.04 does not work now?
[21:37] <skiwithpete> when I type startx at prompt it logs into LXDE - and I want it to log into XFCE
[21:37] <kanupatar_> any idea?
[21:37] <kanupatar_> getting this error  http://paste.ubuntu.com/556951/
[21:37] <raven> Jordan_U, right
[21:37] <chovynz> StrangeCharm: does this help? http://www.rasyid.net/2008/07/07/mounting-hard-disk-on-ubuntu/
[21:37] <skiwithpete> how do I change what opens?
[21:38] <Jordan_U> raven: Has any other OS booted on this machine (from a hard drive) since Ubuntu stopped being able to boot?
[21:38] <guntbert> kanupatar_: do as they suggest: type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow dash
[21:38] <StrangeCharm> chovynz, no, that was what i was looking at. it turns out that i needed to use mount.crypt, not mount
[21:38] <raven> Jordan_U, no i never installed any other sys on this machine
[21:38] <chovynz> ok. I'm glad you found it StrangeCharm
[21:39] <Jordan_U> raven: Are these three machines the same brand / model?
[21:39] <skiwithpete> is there some kind of script or log file that decides what startx is?
[21:39] <greyfiend> what tv tuner cards are best for use with ubuntu?
[21:39] <raven> Jordan_U, no
[21:39] <guntbert> !best | greyfiend
[21:39] <Jordan_U> !hardware | greyfiend
[21:40] <Besogon> skiwithpete, Did you try to start the program with #bash ./arm-2010.09-50-arm-none-linux-gnueabi.bin
[21:40] <chovynz> erUSUL: I'm going to go now. thanks for your help
[21:40] <skiwithpete> Besogon, eh?
[21:40] <Jordan_U> raven: Can you boot from a LiveCD, run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[21:41] <Besogon> skiwithpete, sorry it was not for you
[21:41] <raven> Jordan_U, yes i just reinstall the system and hope that it "resets" the hdd now
[21:42] <Quantum_Ion> What is the file that has start up programs in it ?
[21:42] <skiwithpete> I just want startx to start XFCE instead of LXDE
[21:42] <leonidas-270> selam millet
[21:43] <skiwithpete> surely that's straight forward no?
[21:43] <erUSUL> chovynz: no problem
[21:43] <plaidhat> anyone know a quick and easy way to capture the sound from swf files via http? I need to listen to some videos during my long commute to work.
[21:44] <skiwithpete> anyone?
[21:44] <Besogon> skiwithpete, Doesn't sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start work?
[21:44] <crischan> there are newer packages in "http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu maverick-security main" which my apt wont pick up even after a apt-get update... what could be the problem?
[21:44] <skiwithpete> I don't have gdm installed
[21:44] <guntbert> skiwithpete: try: man startx
[21:45] <your_favorite_ni> is their a pph repository file for google chrome
[21:45] <sgillet> hey guys, i tried "sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer"
[21:45] <skiwithpete> guntbert, man startx -bash man: command not found
[21:45] <twig`> any one know where i can find up to date info on getting 2 dual output vid cards running? everything i'm searching is coming up at least a year and a half old
[21:45] <sgillet> but get "Unable to locate package mozilla-mplayer"
[21:45] <tripelb> hi channel, It's a beautiful warm day here and I dont need help. (Wish me luck on my soon-to-be-done repartition of the ext4 partition all my Ubuntu is on. Any last words of advice or wisdom?
[21:46] <crischan> your_favorite_ni: have you tried chromium-browser?
[21:46] <guntbert> skiwithpete: what system are you running?
[21:46] <tripelb> twig`, is 2 dual output cards a total of 4 outputs?
[21:46] <twig`> tripleb: yes
[21:46] <skiwithpete> 10.04 minimal install
[21:46] <skiwithpete> I then installed LXDE
[21:47] <skiwithpete> and now XFCE
[21:47] <tripelb> sgillet, you say you did  "sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer" -- and so??
[21:47] <Besogon> skiwithpete, startx lxde ?
[21:47] <sgillet> tripelb, it doesn't seem to install: I get get "Unable to locate package mozilla-mplayer"
[21:47] <iDope> hi, I have a Xubuntu system which I want to slimdown to just CLI with absolutely no xorg or gui packages? Can anyone guide me on what to remove and in what order to achieve this. Re installing the system with ubuntu server is NOT an option for me right now.
[21:47] <sorbo_> Chovynz: Worked like a charm, thanks for your help :)
[21:48] <guntbert> skiwithpete: you can serach the internet for 'ubuntu man startx'
[21:48] <guntbert> skiwithpete: or you install man-db
[21:48] <guntbert> *search
[21:48] <Besogon> skiwithpete, there is something about it http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/slackware-linux/149819-slax-lxde-how-start-lxde.html
[21:48] <Besogon> actually there is only a link for search
[21:49] <skiwithpete> Besogon, you got me wrong, I want to start XFCE
[21:49] <chovynz> sorbo_ your welcome
[21:49] <skiwithpete> it autostarts LXDE and I want to stop it...
[21:50] <tripelb> hi sgillet - tell me more. what's your distro? Mine came with mplayer, yours? let me look up the repository, if I can figure out how to.
[21:51] <twig`> ive got two geforce fx5200's i can get dual head up wether xinerama or twinview, but when i try and get the second card up, even on the seperate X server, i lose all stability
[21:51] <twig`> the best ive gotten was 5 minutes with 3 screens
[21:51] <linuxnoob73> whats a fast bittorrent app for linux
[21:52] <Lordy> Hello
[21:52] <mVariable> deluge is great
[21:52] <mVariable> linuxnoob73, deluge
[21:52] <linuxnoob73> ok ty guys
[21:53] <monteith> can anyone point me to a permissions/ownership scheme of an apache webserver?
[21:53] <greyfiend> anyone know of a DVB-T2 TV tuner card that's working with ubuntu?
[21:53] <tripelb> sgillet, see if this helps. (report back to me cause I'd like to know how it worked) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding the Repository
[21:53] <erUSUL> !hcl | greyfiend
[21:53] <thesheff17> monteith: everything is www-data:www-data owned
[21:53] <monteith> ok, so i shouldn't mess with that?
[21:53] <thesheff17> monteith: so chown -R www-data:www-data
[21:54] <tripelb> sgillet, all programs that you want to install are in libraries called repositories.  (I think all, maybe not)
[21:54] <thesheff17> monteith: chown -R * www-data:www-data yea I wouldn't mess with unless you are having problems.
[21:55] <iDope> skiwithpete: You might want to take a look at /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
[21:55] <brontoeee> thesheff17, that basically means that any silly php script can destroy entire www folder thought, but yes i keep reading that as well...
[21:56] <iDope> So back to my issue, I have a Xubuntu system which I want to slimdown to just CLI with absolutely no xorg or gui packages? Can anyone guide me on what to remove and in what order to achieve this. Re installing the system with ubuntu server is NOT an option for me right now.
[21:57] <mVariable> iDope, should be able to change your runtime
[21:57] <coz_> iDope,   just install the server then...if you really dont want a desktop environment... perhaps   apt-get  autoremove --purge xubuntu-desktop?  I dont I have not done it
[21:58] <mVariable> iDope, run level
[21:59] <skiwithpete> iDope, I've looked at that - but no hints as to how to change it... I don't see LXDE or XFCE
[21:59] <mVariable> iDope, I am wrong apparently debian and ubuntu do not treat run level 3 as console only
[22:00] <sgillet> tripelb, doesn't work.. here's what i did:
[22:00] <sgillet> sudo wget --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release -cs).list && sudo apt-get --quiet update && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get --quiet update
[22:00] <sgillet> then
[22:00] <sgillet> sudo apt-get --yes install app-install-data-medibuntu apport-hooks-medibuntu
[22:00] <FloodBot2> sgillet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:01] <sllide> how can i make ubuntu not open partitions automaticly?
[22:01] <x_> have you mooed today
[22:01] <iDope> mVariable: I am already in runlevel 1 and yes in Ubuntu/latest Debians runlevels 2-5 are practically the samee
[22:01] <brontoeee> sllide, it should not
[22:01] <sllide> it does
[22:01] <sllide> i mean, open  the root directory of the usb
[22:02] <sllide> in the gue
[22:02] <iDope> I am talking about uninstalling (deleting) all desktop related packages
[22:02] <sllide> gui
[22:02] <iDope> with apt-get remove
[22:03] <iDope> coz_: I've already removed xubuntu-desktop completely, im having trouble removing the gtk2.0 libraries and stuff related to them. If I uninstall them using apt it adds a ton of kde stuff to be installed.
[22:03] <brontoeee> iDope, i'd just figure out a way to not start x/gnome, its easy to break things with heavy uninstalls
[22:03] <tobiasz> How do I install Ubuntu on a old computer with terrible bios which doesn't for some reason allow me to boot from CD (tried to drives, 3 cds), I can only boot from floppy win 98 :E
[22:03] <user1199> hello, just installed ubuntu in windows. when i boot into OS all i get is GRUB>  why not loading? hasn't even done the finish install bit yet..
[22:04] <erUSUL> !install | tobiasz
[22:04] <user1199> hello, just installed ubuntu 10.10 in windows. when i boot into OS all i get is GRUB> why not loading? hasn't even done the finish install bit yet.. any ideas what i do from here?
[22:04] <coz_> iDope,   mm  as I said I never did this but seems to me the easiest way is just to install the server edition  or   you could download the minimal install cd  and if you choose nothing when it asks  it just i nstalls the base system
[22:04] <iDope> brontoeee: I've already done that much. And I am pretty sure I wont break anything (or wont care even if I break a GUI component) which is critical to what my system is doing right now (acting as a transparent proxy and my home gateway)
[22:05] <coz_> iDope,    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[22:05] <Guest42730> why am I able to connect to my wireless network with the gnome network manager, but not with wicd?
[22:05] <iDope> coz_: the whole point is that I don't want to reinstall as that would take up more time than just doing a set of apt-get removes
[22:06] <mister_m> why am I able to connect to my wireless network with the gnome network manager, but not with wicd?
[22:06] <genu> Hey, when I plug in my usb flash drive, it won't mount it...
[22:06] <brontoeee> sllide, 'file management preferences' under media tab untick the last checkbox
[22:06] <iDope> skiwithpete: how do you start your sessions? Are you using gdm (or xdm) or any other login manager or are you using startx to start the session from commandline?
[22:06] <sllide> thanks :)
[22:06] <genu> I don't think it even detects it...what can I do?
[22:06] <coz_> iDope,  then let me ask..."why"   you want to do this and what will you use the system for?
[22:07] <x_> iDope, sudo apt-get remove a2ps abiword abiword-common abiword-plugin-grammar abiword-plugin-mathview aumix aumix-common browser-plugin-parole catfish elementary-icon-theme exaile exo-utils fortune-mod fortunes-min gdebi gdebi-core gigolo gimp gimp-data gnumeric gnumeric-common gnumeric-doc gtk2-engines-xfce gvfs-bin hal hal-info imagemagick libabiword-2.8 libaiksaurus-1.2-0c2a libaiksaurus-1.2-data libaiksaurusgtk-1.2-0c2a libbabl-0.0-0 libcd
[22:07] <x_> t4 libexo-0.3-0 libexo-common libgdome2-0 libgdome2-cpp-smart0c2a libgegl-0.0-0 libgimp2.0 libgoffice-0.8-8 libgoffice-0.8-8-common libgraph4 libgsf-1-114 libgsf-1-common libgtkmathview0c2a libgvc5 libhal-storage1 libhal1 libilmbase6 libjpeg-progs libjpeg8 liblink-grammar4 libloudmouth1-0 libmagickcore3-extra libmng1 libnetpbm10 libopenexr6 libotr2 libots0 libpathplan4 libpsiconv6 librecode0 libsexy2 libtagc0 libthunar-vfs-1-2 libwv-1.2-3 libx
[22:07] <x_> cb-keysyms1 libxdot4 libxfce4menu-0.1-0 libxfce4util-bin libxfce4util-common libxfce4util4 libxfcegui4-4 libxfconf-0-2 link-grammar-dictionaries-en mousepad murrine-themes netpbm orage oss-compat parole pidgin pidgin-data pidgin-libnotify pidgin-otr plymouth-theme-xubuntu-logo psutils python-cddb python-mmkeys python-mutagen ristretto smartdimmer tango-icon-theme tango-icon-theme-common thunar thunar-archive-plugin thunar-data thunar-media-tag
[22:07] <FloodBot2> x_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:07] <user1199> hello, just installed ubuntu 10.10 in windows. when i boot into OS all i get is GRUB> why not loading? hasn't even done the finish install bit yet.. any ideas what i do from here?
[22:08] <sllide> brontoeee, i cant seem to find it..
[22:08] <Loshki> iDope: 1) make a backup in case it all goes horribly wrong. 2) reinstall may be slower but the result will be more reliable 3) unless you're desperately short of disk space, why bother removing the gui stuff?
[22:08] <mellin> Hi all I'm having an issue with my GeForce 360GM on a toshiba x505. I have the nvidia drivers installed. Already ran nvidia-xconfig. I don't get any video output to my external lcd monitor using HDMI cable
[22:09] <x_> iDope, if you can still hear me http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[22:09] <brontoeee> sllide, system > preferences >
[22:09] <iDope> coz and Loshki: Yes I am desperately short of diskspace, and thank you x_
[22:09] <sllide> brontoeee, yeah i'm looking there
[22:09] <iDope> that is pretty much the type of resource I was looking for
[22:09] <sllide> its not there
[22:09] <x_> iDope, found it on google pretty easy but np hope it helps ya.
[22:10] <brontoeee> sllide, let me snapshot, hold on
[22:10] <sllide> kay
[22:10] <sllide> sorry for the trouble
[22:10] <mellin> I checked the nvidia settings and it shows both displays. I can't figure out how to get the 23"lcd to work? On boot I do see output booting with grub. Up to the point where I get a 10.10 splash with the dots. It stays there for a second then disappears. I hear the audio on the sytem. Just not video. How do I disable the laptop display and enable the other?
[22:11] <jenka> Hi ! What chmod numbers should i use if I want thw owner of the directory to have full permission but permission denied to everyone else?
[22:11] <mister_m> why am I able to connect to my wireless network with the gnome network manager, but not with wicd?
[22:11] <x_> mellin, on ur laptop do you have an fn button ?
[22:11] <jrib> !permissions > jenka
[22:11] <mellin> Yes
[22:12] <x_> mellin, well idk what it looks like on ur pc button on the top part do you have a button for changing to an external monitor
[22:12] <iDope> x_: yeah the removal part is all I need.
[22:12] <ubnoob> Hello everyone, does anyone know how to remove this ">" form evolution when forwarding mail?
[22:12] <mellin> x_: Yes...what keystroke do I need to try? They are listed as DFP-0 and DFP-1 in nvidia settings
[22:13] <x_> mellin, hold that fn key and find the monitor button
[22:13] <guntbert> jenka: it'd be 700
[22:13] <brontoeee> sllide, snap http://imagebin.org/133905
[22:13] <mellin> x_: Ah so you think there is a monitor button on the keyboard?
[22:14] <sllide> brontoeee, err, its not there for me 0.o
[22:14] <x_> mellin, idk. thats what mine has
[22:14] <brontoeee> sllide, shrug :)
[22:14] <sllide> shrug?..
[22:14] <mellin> x_: Yes I found it...F5 but still no joy...
[22:14] <gnewb> Is there a pkg or source for CometBird browser?
[22:14] <x_> mellin, hold fn and hit it you might have to hit it several times and how are you connecting this ?
[22:15] <brontoeee> sllide, no idea then.
[22:15] <sllide> hmm
[22:15] <mellin> x_: HDMI cable
[22:15] <sllide> i can live with it
[22:15] <jenka> guntbert: thanks
[22:15] <x_> mellin, does the tv show the manufacturer info and such in the nvidia area
[22:15] <sllide> :o brontoeee it was unchecked in the menu configure thingy
[22:15] <sllide> got it now ^_^
[22:16] <user1199> hello, just installed ubuntu 10.10 in windows. when i boot into OS all i get is GRUB> why not loading? hasn't even done the finish install bit yet.. any ideas what i do from here?
[22:16] <TheDok> hey guys, any idea how I would go about using the scgi_local setting in apache2? for rutorrent ofc
[22:16] <mellin> x_: Yes it recognizes it is there.
[22:16] <bereta> hello can anyone tell me how to change that apache2 port please?
[22:16] <saliak> I've gotten AuthBasic authentication to work on my site, but am trying to get AuthDigest to work.  when i do htdigest, the "realm" parameter needs to match the "AuthName"?
[22:16] <JDuke128> hi all
[22:16] <mellin> x_: Actually a LCD computer monitor
[22:16] <JDuke128> someone tried to run Lineage 2 on ubuntu ?
[22:17] <x_> mellin, idk then check everything in nvidia settings and check ur ubuntu settings.
[22:17] <mellin> x_: LG E2350
[22:17] <charlesno> does Ubuntu use the X Window system?
[22:17] <erUSUL> charlesno: yes
[22:18] <mellin> x_: Ok thanks for the assist
[22:19] <bereta> is there another ubuntu irc chanal that will deal with the server
[22:19] <Nytek> Hey guys can anyone help me out with a dell 1397 wireless card installation issue? I cant get internet working on my dell laptop in latest Ubuntu, i installed the bcmwl-kernel-source but still i cant connect to any wireless connections
[22:19] <erUSUL> bereta: #ubuntu-server
[22:19] <erUSUL> !broadcom | Nytek
[22:19] <brontoeee> saliak, nope, realm is just some name, metadata i think
[22:20] <bereta> erUSUL: thanks
[22:20] <saliak> brontoeee - poo.  is there somewhere that the reason my logins don't work would be logged?
[22:20] <Nytek> ubottu thanks bro will try
[22:21] <sosaited> I just formatted a 1.5tb drive into multiple ext4 partitions, but whenever I mount/open any of them in Nautilus, I don't get write access to it.
[22:21] <brontoeee> saliak, usually misconfigured server, dunno what logs you need to check
[22:22] <user1199> hello, just installed ubuntu 10.10 in windows. when i boot into OS all i get is GRUB> why not loading? hasn't even done the finish install bit yet.. any ideas what i do from here?
[22:22] <saliak> brontoeee - yeah, it's kinda annoying since the basic authentication works.  have you gotten digest authentication to work before?
[22:23] <brontoeee> saliak, i dont remember, try in #ubuntu-server ?
[22:24] <brontoeee> saliak, or better #httpd
[22:27] <monteith> what files AREN'T included if you exclude -a from the ls command
[22:27] <erUSUL> monteith: hidden files/dir
[22:28] <monteith> okay, and a file would be classified as hidden by...
[22:28] <erUSUL> monteith: btw hidden files/dirs in unix are the ones which names begin with a dot
[22:29] <monteith> okay, that's exactly what i was looking for
[22:29] <monteith> thanks
[22:29] <erUSUL> !addingfs | sosaited
[22:32] <sosaited> erUSUL: I don't want to set any permissions, I just want to be able to write to the partitions when I click and automount them
[22:33] <erUSUL> sosaited: not how things work in unix. you can set open permissions in th mont point so anyone can read writte execute in it ( setting fstab to mount allways in the same place )
[22:33] <plaidhat> how can I capture audio data from my soundcard and convert it to mp3?
[22:35] <sosaited> erUSUL: But none of my other partitions on other drives have permanent entries in Fstab, and I can open/mount them in nautilus and then write to them easily.
[22:36] <sosaited> erUSUL: I would rather not have fstab entries for this drive either, but automount and use it whenever I need in Nautilus
[22:36] <erUSUL> sosaited: that's becouse they are windows/ntfs/fat partitions. they do not support unix permissions model so the system cheats to make life easier to casual users
[22:38] <charlesno> how can i view information about my computer, like processor and graphics card
[22:38] <niko> charlesno: lshw
[22:39] <sosaited> erUSUL: I have 4 other ext3/ext4 partitions that mount just fine. The problem seems to be that when I click/mount the newer partitions, their mount points that are created based on the partition labels have the owner set as root
[22:39] <KM0201> charlesno: lspci will show you anything on the pci bus
[22:39] <KM0201> niko: isn't lshw supposed to ran as sudo?
[22:40] <erUSUL> sosaited: that's why i said that you have to ( i quote ) « set open permissions in th mont point so anyone can read writte execute in it  ( setting fstab to mount allways in the same place )
[22:40] <niko> you got less information without sudo yes
[22:41] <HeTaL> Anyone have any idea how to get gtk-extra on 10.10? I can never generate a make file
[22:41] <suqa> Hi, anyone who uses ubuntu on a Acer Aspire 1362. The VIA chipset dont work for me.
[22:42] <suqa> Cant even access the xorg file.
[22:42] <derek_> hey, I need some help getting a wifi card to work
[22:43] <derek_> A friend got it off ebay, and it doesn't say a model number, just "Wifi Wireless USB Adapter, MADE IN CHINA"
[22:43] <KM0201> derek_: try plugging it in and lsusb
[22:43] <derek_> would this be it? Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8191S WLAN Adapter
[22:43] <KM0201> derek_: i would say so
[22:44] <derek_> ubuntu somehow knows that there is a wireless card available, but it doesn't list any wireless networks. It just says it's disconnected.
[22:45] <chovynz> how would I find out how secure my machine is?
[22:45] <linuxnoob73> KM0201, what up
[22:45] <suqa> How to check witch drivers who is working and those who isnt working?
[22:45] <derek_> any idea how to make this adapter work?
[22:45] <chovynz> where have all the cowboys gone?
[22:45] <KM0201> linuxnoob73: :) not much
[22:46] <HeTaL> Does anyone know if it's possible to get gtk extra on 10.10? Or at least where i can ask this question?
[22:46] <linuxnoob73> <--wishes his back button would work in chromium
[22:46] <linuxnoob73> whats with the backspace button being disabled ugh
[22:47] <KM0201> derek_: i think you're going to have to get the drivers from realtek
[22:47] <ubutom> linuxnoob73, try ctrl leftarrow
[22:47] <KM0201> !realtek | derek_
[22:47] <chovynz> HeTaL: http://gtkextra.sourceforge.net/ ?
[22:47] <suqa> Please help a noob. Im using Ubuntu @ my 10" laptop and i love it. But i wont get it working at acpire 1362...
[22:47] <linuxnoob73> backspace is easier
[22:47] <ubutom> linuxnoob73, make that alt leftarrow :)
[22:48] <ubutom> (at least in firefox)
[22:48] <IceCas> isnt it alt + left arrow
[22:48] <KM0201> derek_: never mind, thats for the 8187
[22:48] <linuxnoob73> ty
[22:48] <derek_> ok, so I followed the instructions on this page: http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x and ran modprobe r8192s_usb, but it still isn't detecting networks
[22:48] <Diamondcite> suqa: How is it NOT working?
[22:48] <kbrosnan> linuxnoob73: it can be re-enabled
[22:49] <kbrosnan> linuxnoob73: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.backspace_action
[22:49] <linuxnoob73> kbrosnan,  ty
[22:49] <HeTaL> chovynz: It errs on making. I'll ask them, I suppose.
[22:49] <HeTaL> Thanks
[22:49] <derek_> iwconfig shows "wlan0", but the adapter isn't listing any APs
[22:49] <KM0201> derek_: did you run it as root?
[22:50] <derek_> yes.
[22:50] <derek_> the kernel module seems to be installed.
[22:50] <julio_> hi guys, i'm getting an insuficient privileges while trying to edit a conection on network manager
[22:50] <KM0201> derek_: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[22:50] <suqa> Diamondcite: It is very slow, so I assume that the VIA chipset dont work. But the resolution is OK and the sound is OK to. But I think that it is something as doesn't work. Do u have any ideas?
[22:50] <derek_> 10.10
[22:51] <KM0201> derek_: how much of those instructions did you install?
[22:51] <linuxnoob73> brb changing nic
[22:51] <Diamondcite> suqa: I looked up the specs of Acer Aspire 1362.. it's an AMD Sempron XP 2800+, is that correct?
[22:51] <g0th> hi
[22:51] <chovynz> HeTaL: are these of any help? http://dries.ulyssis.org/ayo/packages/gtkextra/info.html , http://sourceforge.net/projects/gtkextra/develop/
[22:51] <Diamondcite> suqa: If not I need a more proper modem number to find out what you have.
[22:52] <derek_> KM0201: I substituted the debian specific parts of the instructions
[22:52] <Diamondcite> suqa: Also when you say slow.. slow to draw or to load?
[22:52] <derek_> there were no errors when I compiled the drivers
[22:52] <mellin> KM0201: What is the channel name for the developers?
[22:52] <charlesno> how can i enable compiz
[22:52] <suqa> Diamondcite: Yes, thats the model! 2800+ sempron AMD.
[22:52] <g0th> when I watch a flash movie with firefox, the following can happen: whenever I switch to a different desktop I see a frame of the mentioned flash movie for about 2 seconds then the normal desktop "image" comes...
[22:52] <g0th> any idea how I can fix that?
[22:52] <KM0201> mellin: i think its #ubuntu-dev   but i think you have to be invited there... don't hold me to it.
[22:53] <suqa> Aspire 1362LC
[22:53] <YodaRULZ> Anyone up for a support question?
[22:53] <Jordan_U> mellin: What do you need exactly?
[22:53] <KM0201> derek_: were you able to install firmware-realtek?
[22:54] <markoso> ok now im identifyed
[22:54] <derek_> I only installed build-essential and linux-headers-generic
[22:54] <derek_> there weren't any errors whough
[22:54] <derek_> though*
[22:54] <nene> hola
[22:54] <KM0201> derek_: well... i'd say a pretty big part of that, is the firmware-realtek package... did you not see that part of the instructions?
[22:54] <mellin> KM0201: Ok thanks...however I am having issues with not being able to use my external monitor with a HDMI connection. First off the power settings don't have a "do nothing" option for when the lappie lid is closed. And secondly my nvidia drivers are installed, but I don't get any video output to the 23" monitor. I have tried Fn F5 which is for display switching on my laptop
[22:54] <YodaRULZ> I'm running Ubuntu Server 10.10, and run level 5 doesn't have a gui.
[22:54] <KM0201> and wireless-tools
[22:54] <derek_> KM0201: it's not in the ubuntu repositories.
[22:54] <nene> calla cabron
[22:55] <nene> mamon de mierda
[22:55] <KM0201> derek_: thats my point.
[22:55] <nene> capullo
[22:55] <twig`> anybody have any experience with msi 870-g45 mobo with 10.04 or 10.10?
[22:55] <nene> calla
[22:55] <nene> marikita
[22:55] <derek_> I don't think adding the lenny repos is a good idea.
[22:55] <nene> * iGadget_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ha entrado en #ubuntu
 mamon de mierda
[22:55] <nene> * lance_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ha entrado en #ubuntu
[22:55] <nene> * hsyn<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ha entrado en #ubuntu
 derek_: thats my point.
 capullo
[22:55] <FloodBot2> nene: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:55] <KM0201> derek_: i'd agree
[22:55] <IceCas> !es
[22:55] <KM0201> nene: ?
[22:55] <g0th> when I watch a flash movie with firefox, the following can happen: whenever I switch to a different desktop I see a frame of the mentioned flash movie for about 2 seconds then the normal desktop "image" comes...
[22:56] <g0th> how can I set individual backgrounds for each desktop instead of one background for all desktops?
[22:56] <iGadget_> anyone familiar with the Ubuntu situation in Sri Lanka?
[22:56] <mellin> And on top of that don't use foul language even if it Spanish
[22:56] <YodaRULZ> I've confirmed that I'm on run level 5, and I have xfce installed.
[22:56] <derek_> doesn't ubuntu support most wireless adapters out of the box? I thought there should be no need to compile and install drivers manually
[22:57] <mellin> YodaRULZ: What does startx yield?
[22:57] <yehudah> running mint 10 using maverick kernel, can i upgrade kernel with natty kernel?
[22:57] <KM0201> derek_: *most* but not *all*
[22:57] <mellin> yehudah: This is Ubuntu not Mint...
[22:57] <iGadget_> yehudah: #mint?
[22:58] <yehudah> yes mint, just try to find different answers
[22:58] <YodaRULZ> It worked!
[22:58] <YodaRULZ> Thanks
[22:59] <iGadget_> ohwell... guess I'm off to bed. Cheers guys & galls, have a great sunday
[22:59] <mellin> YodaRULZ: NP just be aware you can edit the init file and change the runlevel so it will start X automatically
[22:59] <Pauliax> hoe to connect x3 nokia to pc?
[23:00] <guntbert> !runlevel | mellin
[23:00] <mellin> Pauliax:: Huh...with a cable
[23:00] <Pauliax> SOFT
[23:00] <Pauliax> ?
[23:00] <mellin> guntbert:: Thanks for the update :D
[23:01] <guntbert> mellin: :)
[23:01] <mellin> Pauliax:: Have you attached the phone to your computer yet?
[23:01] <Pauliax> yes
[23:02] <alfred> I uploaded a Virtual Machine as image to my server, how can I run it?
[23:03] <imok> anyone think its worth upgrading to 10?
[23:03] <mellin> Pauliax:: Use the Ubuntu Software Center and search for "phone" without quotes. There you will find applications for use with your phone
[23:03] <KM0201> derek_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1620923&page=6
[23:03] <alfred> I uploaded a Virtual Machine as image to my server, how can I run it?
[23:03] <itaylor57> imok: which version are you running now?
[23:04] <the_student> alfred: What software are you using?
[23:04] <imok> Xunbuntu 9.10
[23:04] <mellin> Anyone in here running a lappie with nvidial GeForce 360GM connected to external monitor by way of HDMI?
[23:04] <imok> 2.6.3I-14 gen kernal
[23:04] <alfred> the_student, virtualBox on ubuntu
[23:04] <alfred> the_student, I created an image, uploaded it to my server, now I want to start working on it
[23:05] <the_student> alfred: Try vboxmanage --help
[23:05] <fuzz0> yoyoyo
[23:05] <itaylor57> imok: yes you need security patches
[23:06] <imok> yeah I think I should, 249 packages to install
[23:07] <imok> How big is the download for 10 I might ask? The packages I need alone are 187mb.
[23:07] <bencahill> KM0201: sorry wasn't here earlier :) nope, ubuntu never even booted, even with the many boot options i tried
[23:07] <mellin> I have to admit Maverick runs like a raped ape on my Qosmio X505-860!
[23:07] <KM0201> imok: the ISO is like 695mb
[23:07] <KM0201> bencahill: hmm, interesting
[23:07] <imok> To Update?
[23:07] <Nytek> hey guys my laptop finally finds the wireless but when i connect to it, it asks me for the password and i put it in (i know its the right one double checked,) but it tries to connect then asks me again for the pasword whast can be wrong??
[23:08] <KM0201> imok: oh to update, i have no idea.. are you using 10.04?
[23:08] <imok> 9.10 I believe
[23:08] <metrix> does anyone know of a linux backup distro that fits on a flash/CD?  My goal is to have an automatic image of a hard drive to an external drive
[23:08] <bencahill> KM0201: oh well, it's running arch, and is much slimmer than a ubuntu install would have been, due to installing only what you need...
[23:08] <mellin> KM0201:: I saw someone earlier today that was asking about having to upgrade from 10.04 that it breaks things. Don't know how accurate that information is.
[23:09] <kanupatar_> how to install qemu in ubuntu 9.10?
[23:09] <kanupatar_> is there any installer available?
[23:09] <KM0201> mellin: any update/upgrade, is a risk.... i would say by and large, upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10, does not cause a problem (or at least ive not noticed a widespread problem)
[23:10] <KM0201> mellin: unfortunately to many people think because they have a problem, it's always a problem, and most the time, the issue comes back to the knucklehead beating on the keyboard
[23:10] <imok> Im starting the update and it says there are two files, doesn't allow me to view size
[23:10] <mellin> KM0201:: Ok not a problem this person was saying it will bork the system due to having to do an intermediate upgrade from .04 to .10
[23:10] <mellin> KM0201:: :-D
[23:10] <KM0201> mellin: i've never heard such a thing... what "intermediate" release is there between 10.04 and 10.10?...
[23:11] <mellin> kanupatar_:: Search the software center for qemu
[23:11] <kanupatar_> how?
[23:11] <imok> 24/42 @ 33.3kb/s
[23:11] <kanupatar_> where?
[23:11] <itaylor57> I remember teaching unix/c back in 79 running unix on a vax, oh the good ol non gui days
[23:11] <imok> If the total packages are huge this is going to be fun
[23:11] <mellin> KM0201:: OOps sorry this knucklehead neglected to mention this particular case started out at 9.XX
[23:12] <derek_> KM0201: I have the driver installed, but sudo lshw -c network lists the card as disabled.
[23:12] <KM0201> mellin: there you go... now going from 9.04(or 9.10) directly to 10.10, will definitely cause a problem
[23:12] <Pici> !apt | kanupatar_
[23:12] <ubutom> Nytek, had similar behaviour with usb w-lan sticks, sometimes they would not connect to the router, waiting a little bit or restarting the wlan router did the trick for me then
[23:12] <Leela> today i installed 10.10 on my new laptop. it had no wireless driver installed, so i had to get on wired connection to get the driver. do you think when the 11.4 comes and i am not upgrading but making a new install, i have to reinstall the driver too?
[23:13] <Leela> stupid question, i know, but not completely clear for me
[23:13] <KM0201> derek_: open a terminal and type "rfikill list" no quotes, and hit enter
[23:13] <Nytek> ubutom i tried that its weird, it finally sees my network and once i connect and put in password it loads forever and then asksm e password again, finally it says wireless disconnected and im back where i started....
[23:13] <mellin> Leela:: You should be able to install your windows driver using ndiswrapper. Not sure since I haven't done it in a while if this method has changed or not ;-D
[23:14] <imok> Leela: No you shouldn't
[23:14] <the_student> Leela: Unless the new kernel includes the driver then yes
[23:14] <ubutom> Leela, depends whether or not the drivers for your hardware will be part of 11.4
[23:14] <KM0201> derek_: does that show wireless lan blocked?
[23:14] <Leela> i see
[23:14] <derek_> rfikill not found
[23:14] <Leela> thanks guys
[23:14] <derek_> did you mean rfkill?
[23:14] <imok> Are the b43 drivers apart of 10?
[23:15] <derek_> rfkill list doesn't show anything
[23:15] <KM0201> derek_: yes, i thought i said rfkill
[23:15] <KM0201> Leela: what is your wireless device that didn't work?
[23:15] <ubutom> Nytek, well, don't really know what the problem was in my case, sometimes they connected and sometimes it took several minutes, I have a laptop with integrated w-lan now and that works like a charm
[23:15] <Leela> it worked on win. KM0201 but linux kinda didn't see that i have a wireless card
[23:15] <derek_> no output at all
[23:16] <ubutom> Nytek, so could be chipset-related or whatever
[23:16] <KM0201> imok: not really.. the STA driver is slowly being integrated... but the b43, because its restricted, will always be a bit of a hassle
[23:16] <KM0201> Leela: i don't care that it worke don windows.. kind of irrelevant.... what is the wireless card.
[23:16] <KM0201> derek_: did you type rfkil list
[23:16] <KM0201> *rfkill list
[23:16] <derek_> yes.
[23:16] <KM0201> ok
[23:16] <Leela> dunno. i just hit the driver available when i had wired connection KM0201
[23:17] <imok> Okay thanks as I thought so with the issue of copyright and only being able to get an official copy
[23:17] <KM0201> Leela: ok, so is your wireless working now, or is it still not working?
[23:17] <Pici> Leela: So you were able to get your wifi working by going to the Hardware Drivers tool?
[23:17] <mellin> KM0201:: She isn't sure since she chose to use a wired connection I think...
[23:17] <imok> I better find the files I need for when I upgrade though, its not a horrible fix once you figure out how to do it. Just annoying thats all
[23:17] <Leela> its working. i was just asking out of interest if it would stay on the next version somehow if i dont upgrade
[23:18] <KM0201> mellin: even if a laptop is wired to a connection... it will still pick up broadcasting ESSIDs, if the wireless is working
[23:18] <Pici> Leela: It matters *how* you got it to work though.
[23:18] <RickyHarline> Hey, gents
[23:18] <derek_> KM0201: what does rfkill do anyways?
[23:18] <Leela> Pici i had to connect wired. went to additional drivers and clicked the driver that was available there
[23:18] <jimcooncat_> need a howto -- make gmail the default for a stock ubuntu install
[23:19] <Leela> in my case "broadcom sta wireless driver"
[23:19] <Nytek> ubutom its weird because if i enable /disable using laptop toggle if its disabled, my wireless shows up in programs like network managers and wifi radar, but at the top built-in network manager ubuntu has it shows my wirlress driver as off.... if i turn it on, it does the opposite no program can detect my driver/wirlress networks in my area but the built-in ubuntu one can see my wirlress...
[23:19] <KM0201> derek_:  it just lists devices... sometimes it will show devices that are "blocked" and you can unblock them.
[23:19] <mellin> KM0201:: Well if that is the case then my Qosmio is fscked. I see nothing on the top taskbar that shows an option to connect since I have a wired connection plugged in. Now If I go look for the setup for the wireless then I WILL see the ESSID's :-D
[23:19] <itaylor57> jimcooncat evolution can connect to gmail
[23:19] <markoso> is mysql installed on ubuntu ?
[23:19] <Pici> Leela: Okay, so that means you're using a proprietary driver that is not open source, that is why it cannot be included on the CD, you'll likely have the same issue in 11.04 if there isn't an open source replacement by then.
[23:19] <Pici> markoso: Not by default, but it is in the repositories.
[23:20] <markoso> ok ty pici
[23:20] <jimcooncat_> itaylor57: I'd rather not go that route, I belive there's a way to do it ith a browser
[23:20] <RickyHarline> If anyone could lend me some advice I would be much obliged: I have a new laptop which wasn't bringing up the install screen for Ubuntu 10.10 x64, so I got the alternate version.  It loads up the install screen, but after I select "Install Ubuntu" the screen goes black.
[23:20] <KM0201> mellin: that is strange, cuz i see networks even if i'm wired to my router.
[23:20] <derek_> KM0201: so since it didn't list anything, what does that mean?
[23:20] <KM0201> derek_: nothing most likely... i was just curious if you woud see anything
[23:20] <Leela> i see. well as i know it beforehand this time, it wont be a big deal. thanks pici
[23:20] <ubutom> Nytek, hm, strange, maybe the guys here can help if you give details about the chipset and so on
[23:20] <Pici> Leela: You're welcome
[23:20] <RickyHarline> Anyone know why I can't even get the installer to work properly?
[23:20] <yeats> RickyHarline: you've checked the disk integrity?
[23:20] <jimcooncat_> desktop-webmail?
[23:21] <RickyHarline> In the past, installing Linux has been easier than cooking a poptart for me.
[23:21] <RickyHarline> Um no.
[23:21] <RickyHarline> How do you mean?
[23:21] <ubutom> Nytek, does it say in hardware-jockey that it is using resricted drivers for your wireless?
[23:21] <imok> 593mb for package upgrades..
[23:21] <mellin> KM0201:: I do have a bluetooth icon...not wireless icon like on my older fujitsu.
[23:21] <yeats> RickyHarline: did you md5sum the disk image after downloading? (first of all)
[23:21] <imok> 1hr 51mins on my connection.... NO WAY. 33kb/s will not finish that in an hour
[23:21] <KM0201> mellin: hmm, what is your wireless device?
[23:22] <mellin> KM0201:: Just a sec and I'll tell you. My laptop is really used as a dekstop usually so I don't use wireless.
[23:22] <imok> Any idea why 10 removes wine?
[23:22] <KM0201> mellin: oh ok...
[23:22] <Pici> imok: 10.what?
[23:23] <KM0201> derek_: unfortunately i'm at a loss as to your problem.... i would try the forums...
[23:23] <Nytek> ubutom how do i check what it says in hardware jockey?
[23:23] <imok> Unbuntu 10..
[23:23] <imok> I would imagine its 10.4 or something like that
[23:23] <ubutom> Nytek, it's under system administration hardware drivers
[23:24] <yeats> imok: the upgrade program disables extra repos (including the wine repo if you've added that)
[23:24] <ubutom> it autodetects drivers
[23:24] <yeats> imok: is that what you mean?
[23:24] <imok> Yes, thanks.
[23:24] <Nytek> ubutom oh yea that, it shows broadcom STA wirlress driver as activated and in use
[23:24] <imok> But still a 593mb download, thats definetly for tonight
[23:25] <ubutom> Nytek, then it should work. hm
[23:25] <alfred> I uploaded a Virtual Machine as image to my server, how can I run it?
[23:25] <Nytek> ubutom i know i followed everything on the ubuntu site for broadcom wirlress drivers but still not working, sucks big time cant do aynthing
[23:25] <alfred> How can I start my VM hosted in my dedicated server ?
[23:25] <LinuxGuy2009> Hi guys I have a pair of matching 500GB SATA drives but I currently have only one physically installed on the system. Is there a way to hook both up to combine free space or boost boot and speed performance? I already know that I can choose to use one as my home folder. I was wondering if there is a better use scenario.
[23:25] <imok> Nytek... the b43?
[23:26] <ich> #bosnia
[23:26] <RickyH> By check disk integrity you mean the CD?
[23:26] <imok> If so the stuff on their site never helped me
[23:26] <Datz> LinuxGuy2009: you could look into RAID
[23:26] <sam___> hi everyone
[23:26] <|Long|> hi
[23:26] <sam___> i need some help please
[23:26] <yeats> RickyH: yes
[23:26] <Datz> !raid | LinuxGuy2009
[23:26] <imok> I could link you to what I used and it did the job, very easy
[23:26] <|Long|> •Error404NotFound• the symbol 'grub_getcharwidth' not found, uninstalled and re-installed, still same isssue can someone plz help?
[23:26] <yeats> !md5sum | RickyH
[23:26] <RickyH> yeats: yes
[23:26] <sam___> i installed LAMP on my server but for some reason i cant login to anything that is running php
[23:27] <RickyH> Sorry, for some reason I thought you meant the HDD.
[23:27] <sam___> it shows a blank page
[23:27] <RickyH> Yes, my CD is good.
[23:27] <ubutom> Nytek, yeah, such things suck, some wlan hardware does not work well together
[23:27] <mellin> KM0201:: Intel PM55 mobile chipset
[23:27] <LinuxGuy2009> Datz: Thanks!
[23:27] <alfred> How can I start my VM hosted in my dedicated server ?
[23:27] <sam___> can anyone help?
[23:27] <KM0201> mellin: thats the wireless chipset?
[23:27] <yeats> RickyH: you said the black screen happens on the alternate and on the regular install CD?
[23:27] <Nytek> ubutom my wirlress card is listed as supported on ubuntu site but tried everything thanks anywyas gonna give up now wasted too much time on this
[23:27] <|Long|> will paypal for remote support
[23:28] <mellin> KM0201:: Yes according to Toshiba specs page. Other than that it just says wireless G-N band
[23:28] <sam___> i didnt install with cd, it is ubuntu server
[23:28] <DEAD_BEEF> I've got this in my ~/.profile : http://pastie.org/1488487
[23:28] <ubutom> Nytek, maybe it will work after a reboot or when you try tomorrow, good luck anyways
[23:28] <imok> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[23:28] <KM0201> mellin: pastebin your lspci
[23:28] <DEAD_BEEF> But I need to do: source .profile for it to work? shouldn't it be 'sourced' automatically?
[23:28] <imok> Worth a shot, that is if Im thinking of the correct one
[23:29] <sam___> anyone want to help please?
[23:29] <ed_moulton> I'm looking for a very simple crm; haven't found anything in the repos that look promising.  I need to have a list of customers, and then be able to make notes about those customers.
[23:29] <ed_moulton> sam___, what's the issue?
[23:30] <|Long|> ed_moulton, can you help me plz?
[23:30] <sam___> ed_moulton how do i pm you?
[23:30] <ed_moulton> |Long|, not sure; what's your problem?
[23:30] <ed_moulton> sam___, just talk here
[23:30] <sam___> ok
[23:30] <|Long|> scrow up ed_moulton
[23:30] <adamorjames> Hello people
[23:31] <jose__> hola, alguien sabe que hacer para ver vídeos en los navegadores con ubuntu 10.10
[23:31] <ed_moulton> |Long|, meh?
[23:31] <adamorjames> Anyone used AirPlay plugin for #totem?
[23:31] <Pici> !es | jose__
[23:31] <sam___> i installed lamp server on ubuntu 10.10 it worked fine last night but today no one can login to my forum and also anything i try to login to that runs php doesnt login it just shows a blank page
[23:31] <|Long|> the symbol 'grub_getcharwidth' not found, uninstalled and re-installed, still same isssue can someone plz help?
[23:31] <adamorjames> *totem
[23:31] <ed_moulton> brb (birthday cake)
[23:32] <|Long|> ok
[23:33] <gnewb> |Long|: Fresh ISO?
[23:33] <sam___> ed are you there?
[23:34] <arch_is_awesome> Hey, anyone know why ubuntu one syncs a contact twice to the iPhone (I have two of each contact)
[23:34] <RickyHarline> Sorry, I have a terrible internet connection
[23:34] <arch_is_awesome> umm...
[23:35] <RickyHarline> But if you have any idea what the hell is going on with my computer, I'd really appreciate any input.
[23:35] <sam___> can anyone help me please...
[23:35] <bazhang> arch_is_awesome, try #ubuntuone
[23:36] <|Long|> gnewb, no i used livecd
[23:36] <edbian_> sam___, What's the issue?
[23:36] <arch_is_awesome> They refuse to help and say it is 0:00 in the morning in Europe
[23:36] <adamorjames> Anyone used AirPlay plugin for Totem? I can't get it to work.
[23:36] <edbian_> RickyHarline, What is your issue?
[23:36] <zatan> Can i resize my partitions without formating or removing my all files ?
[23:36] <bazhang> arch_is_awesome, you're not in there
[23:36] <|Long|> gnewb, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/101299 i followed this guide it doesnt work
[23:37] <markoso> where do i acess sqlite on ubuntu
[23:37] <arch_is_awesome> I was in there
[23:37] <|Long|> gnewb, can i pm real quick plz?
[23:37] <hansw> arch_is_awesome, it is 0:00+ over in europe
[23:37] <KM0201> zatan: of course you ca
[23:37] <KM0201> *can
[23:38] <LinuxGuy2009> Ive seen directions when installing the nvidia drivers from nvidia website that you need to blacklist the nauveau driver. But Im wondering does removing the xserver-xorg-video-nauveau accomplish the same thing or not? Ive tried removing that package in the past and installing the nvidia drivers but I end up with a corrupted TTY if I remember correctly?
[23:38] <zatan> KM0201,  I am going to try to move my /home to different partition but i have some questions
[23:38] <edbian_> LinuxGuy2009, blacklisting and removing the package will have the same affect
[23:38] <gnewb> |Long|: Sure
[23:38] <erUSUL> !separatehome | zatan
[23:38] <KM0201> zatan: i probably wono't be much use in that.. i've never put home on a separate partition... i think its over-rated
[23:39] <arch_is_awesome> bazhang: I am now.
[23:39] <edbian_> zatan, I have.  What are your questions?
[23:39]  * arch_is_awesome is frustrated
[23:39] <rjcmt> anyone around that can answer questions re: 32-bit vs. 64-bit?
[23:39] <edbian_> rjcmt, I can
[23:39] <edbian_> Would people please start stating their problems instead of asking for help?
[23:40] <zatan> edbian_,  I am going to do freh install of ubuntu but my question is than i am choosing parition for example if i choose /dev/sda1 and i will label it with "/" do i need to choose this partition as primary or logical ?
[23:40] <KM0201> edbian_: lol, good luck w/ that... that will happen forever
[23:40] <edbian_> zatan, primary
[23:41] <edbian_> zatan, is the short answer
[23:41] <zatan> edbian_,  so /home going to be logical?
[23:41] <hansw> yes
[23:41] <markoso> whats a good gui for MYSQL
[23:41] <edbian_> zatan, both primary.  Would you like the long explanation?
[23:41] <rjcmt> on the desktop edition download page (http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download) it says 32-bit is recommended, but at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit it says 64-bit is recommended.  why the discrepancy?
[23:41] <zatan> edbian_,  no I think I am good ;)
[23:41] <edbian_> zatan, ok
[23:41] <hansw> markoso, , there is both a mysqladmin as mysql query tool in ubuntu
[23:42] <zatan> thanks
[23:42] <edbian_> zatan, that's too bad though! :(
[23:42] <KM0201> rjcmt: 32bit will generally have better hardware support... if you don't have more than 3.5gigs of ram.. you probably won't get much out of 64bit
[23:42] <markoso> hansw, ty
[23:42] <Derek_Roberts> My Atheros card does not work It is an ar5007 but ubuntu shows it as an ar5001 lshw -C shows it as disabled Any ideas
[23:42] <tom453642356> hello can you help with problem? unbuntu seems to force a user logoff when there is no activity for a period of time. when you get back to pc you are at the initial logon screen (not the screensaver logon screen) this crashes firefox etc and is annoying. can someone help please?
[23:42] <zatan> edbian_,  for home directory is better /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2 or it doesnt really matter ?
[23:42] <edbian_> zatan, Doesn't matter
[23:43] <KM0201> Derek_Roberts: ar5001 ?  that device works otu of the box.. what version of ubuntu are you using?
[23:43] <zatan> ok let make bootable usb ;]
[23:43] <hansw> markoso, I think you only need to install mysql-gui-tools-common - Architecture independent files for MySQL GUI Tools
[23:43] <markoso> how do i get mysql on ubuntu
[23:43] <rjcmt> with 6gb of ram would 64-bit be recommended on an amd turion 2?
[23:43] <Derek_Roberts> KM0201: i am using kubuntu 10.04.
[23:43] <smw> rjcmt, yes
[23:43] <Pici> rjcmt: yes
[23:43] <josephseraos> Hi there
[23:43] <hansw> markoso, apt-get install mysql-server
[23:43] <KM0201> Derek_Roberts: do you have a button or something that turns wireless on/off, that you have turned off?
[23:43] <markoso> ty
[23:43] <rjcmt> thx :)
[23:44] <erUSUL> markoso: installing it. sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[23:44] <josephseraos> I was updating the programs in my system
[23:44] <Derek_Roberts> KM0201: it is always blue like it is on and i cant turn it off (orange)
[23:44] <Galindar> hello all, what program is ice authority part of? i installed and now forget. it's giving me a problem at login. looking to remove.
[23:44] <josephseraos> it was downloaded
[23:44] <markoso> erUSUL,  thanks
[23:44] <josephseraos> when ware installing, i canceled
[23:45] <markoso> installing
[23:45] <josephseraos> using ctr+c
[23:45] <KM0201> Derek_Roberts: hmm, i hae that device on 2 laptops, and it has worked out of the box, since probably 9.04
[23:45] <josephseraos> but I didn't want to do this
[23:45] <bastidrazor> !enter | josephseraos
[23:45] <josephseraos> is there how to continue configurations?
[23:45] <Derek_Roberts> KM0201: i have tried 9.04 - 10.10 and nothing. it is working perfectly in Windows Vista and 7.
[23:45] <bastidrazor> josephseraos: try sudo apt-get install -f
[23:46] <okee> I am trying to install Ubuntu for the first time.  I am in the screen that says allocate drive space.  I previously had a 100gb partition for SUSE, but decided to delete SUSE and install Ubuntu in the same area.  If I select the 100gb partition and delete it, and then try and install Ubuntu, I get an error indicating that "no root file system" is defined.  How do I fix this problem?
[23:46] <KM0201> Derek_Roberts: how it works in windows is pretty irrelevant, all that shows is it's not a hardware problem
[23:46] <KM0201> Derek_Roberts: you using 32 or 64bit
[23:46] <sagaci> Assign it to /
[23:46] <Derek_Roberts> KM0201: x64
[23:46] <edbian_> okee, You're not telling it where to install.  That's what no root file system means.
[23:47] <edbian_> okee, Select that area and use the drop down menu to choose /
[23:47] <KM0201> Derek_Roberts: hmm, wonder if thats the problem, cuz i use 32bit.
[23:47] <josephseraos> bastidrazor, sorry
[23:47] <josephseraos> I was updating the programs in my system. Download is finish. when ware installing, i canceled using ctr+c. but I didn't want to do this. is there how to continue configurations?
[23:48] <Derek_Roberts> KM0201: I have also tried 10.04 x86 and still notta
[23:48] <hansw> josephseraos, just enter the previous command, if it is downloaded it will continue
[23:48] <erUSUL> josephseraos: sudo dpgk --reconfigure -a
[23:48] <KM0201> Derek_Roberts: then i don't think you have an ar5001.. cuz i know that device works w/ 10.04 and 10.10 x86
[23:48] <josephseraos> bastidrazor, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.
[23:48] <hal> can someone help me to type accented characters using an English keyboard on Ubuntu 9.10 please?
[23:48] <bastidrazor> josephseraos: erUSUL's command will do the trick then.
[23:48] <Derek_Roberts> KM0201: i have wondered if i need the compat-wireless
[23:49] <KM0201> Derek_Roberts: what does lspci | grep Wireless
[23:49] <KM0201> show?
[23:49] <KM0201> Derek_Roberts: no, you need to correctly identify yoru device
[23:49] <Derek_Roberts> KM0201: last time i ran it i got Ar5007
[23:49] <PsPhaKeR_> Is there a command to revert the permissions to default? I made a lot of stupid chowns and I want the file permissions back to default
[23:49] <Pauliax> what soft connects  nokia to a pc?
[23:49] <KM0201> Derek_Roberts: well, i'd try running it again..see what it says.. cuz i'm telling you, 5001 works perfectly
[23:49] <Phase_> Noeltorious
[23:49] <Galindar> What program is ice authority part of? i installed and now forget. it's giving me a problem at login. looking to remove.
[23:50] <LinuxGuy2009> So i just removed the package xserver-xorg-video-neaveau, and now when I switch to a TTY in order to stop GDM and begin the nvidia driver installation, I get a corrupted TTY with random charqacters and colors. What am I doing wrong?
[23:50] <erUSUL> Pauliax: no; there is none; unless you have a backup
[23:50] <PsPhaKeR_> KM0201:  Is there a command to revert the permissions to default? I made a lot of stupid chowns and I want the file permissions back to default
[23:50] <Derek_Roberts> KM0201: Well when i look at it in windows it says that i have a AR5007
[23:50] <edbian_> LinuxGuy2009, type reset and hit enter
[23:50] <edbian_> LinuxGuy2009, You won't be able to make sense of the typing
[23:50] <erUSUL> Pauliax: sorry not for you
[23:50] <erUSUL> PsPhaKeR_: no; there is none; unless you have a backup
[23:51] <KM0201> Derek_Roberts: i don't care what windows says... i told you that...... type "lspci" no quotes, in a terminal... and find yoru wireless device and see how its identified
[23:51] <KM0201> PsPhaKeR_: i'm honestly not very sure on that one... pici probably knows
[23:51] <fredd> is the remastersys still available ?
[23:51] <PsPhaKeR_> Pici:  Is there a command to revert the permissions to default? I made a lot of stupid chowns and I want the file permissions back to default
[23:52] <LinuxGuy2009> edbian_: K ill try that
[23:52] <mkf00> does anybody know a good tutorial for using wildcards with grep or a similiar programm?
[23:52] <Derek_Roberts> KM0201:  i am running in 7 right now it would take me a while to get to where i could use a lan connection as i am traveling right now.
[23:52] <josephseraos> is dpgk = dpkg?
[23:52] <Pauliax>  what soft connects  nokia to a pc? i am using linux not on this computer
[23:52] <Noeltorious> Phase: hey
[23:52] <Noeltorious> Phase: gotta go get grocies pm me
[23:52] <josephseraos> dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure
[23:52] <LinuxGuy2009> edbian_: Didnt do anything.
[23:52] <KM0201> Derek_Roberts: wel, i'll guarantee you it's not 5007 under Linux... i'd bet a buffalo nickel, its ar928x
[23:52] <ZykoticK9> mkf00, be careful not to confuse file globbing charaters with regular expressions (used by grep)
[23:53] <KM0201> Derek_Roberts: sorry, 5001...
[23:53] <erUSUL> mkf00: grep does not use wildcars/globs it uses regexes
[23:53] <mkf00> ok
[23:53] <ZykoticK9> mkf00, research "regular expressions" for grep
[23:53] <erUSUL> mkf00: man 7 regex
[23:53] <josephseraos> bastidrazor, erUSUL it returns: dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure
[23:53] <mkf00> thx
[23:53] <Pauliax> please help
[23:53] <mkf00> thats usefull info
[23:53] <bastidrazor> josephseraos: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[23:53] <Derek_Roberts> KM0201: would ath5k or ath9k be a better choice.
[23:53] <Pauliax> please help
[23:53] <zatan> edbian_,  one more question : do i nee to set up just one swap partition or two ?
[23:53] <erUSUL> josephseraos: drop the re is dpkg --configure -a
[23:53] <bazhang> !helpme | Pauliax
[23:53] <edbian_> zatan, one
[23:54] <okee> My installer crashed.
[23:54] <mkf00> Pauliax thats a very uncommon think you have done ^^ :)
[23:54] <Cpt_Zyph> hey guys i have a dv6000 hp and i cant seem to install because the video drivers are not working.. its all lines and garbage, i have both the desktop 10.10 and the alt desktop 10.10 and both produce the same results.. what do i do / what other install do i try
[23:54] <erUSUL> josephseraos: sorry for the typo
[23:54] <KM0201> Derek_Roberts: you need to figure out the device first... if its an ar928x, which i suspect... there's somewhere on the internet to get instructions, but you'll need LAN access.
[23:54] <zatan> edbian_,  thanks
[23:54] <Pritesh> need help with shared folder virtualbox 4.0, has anybody tried before ?
[23:54] <edbian_> zatan, no problem
[23:54] <notagain> where can i find hardware requirements for server?
[23:55] <Derek_Roberts> KM0201:  alright i will google and see if i can find it. Thanks.
[23:55] <hal> can someone help me to type accented characters using an English keyboard on Ubuntu 9.10 please?
[23:55] <josephseraos> erUSUL, nothing was returned
[23:55] <PsPhaKeR_> Pici:  Is there a command to revert the permissions to default? I made a lot of stupid chowns and I want the file permissions back to default
[23:55] <erUSUL> notagain: should be the same or even less demanding than the desktop version
[23:55] <markoso> what app can i create databases and tables for mysql  gui
[23:55] <erUSUL> josephseraos: then there is nothing half configured or stale you can just run the update manager again
[23:56] <hd1> squirrel, among others, markoso
[23:56] <josephseraos> I'm afraid restart the system and no turn on
[23:56] <Pauliax> need help! how to connect nokia x3 to pc?
[23:56] <markoso> squirrel is the name lol
[23:56] <Cpt_Zyph> hey guys i have a dv6000 hp and i cant seem to install because the video drivers are not working.. its all lines and garbage, i have both the desktop 10.10 and the alt desktop 10.10 and both produce the same results.. what do i do / what other install do i try
[23:56] <Fraxtil> I've mapped caps lock to another key, but there are some very rare cases where I want to turn it on. Is there a terminal application that toggles it?
[23:56] <hd1> squirrel is one of the names, toad is another, there are a number of them
[23:56] <Cpt_Zyph> i have installed but first boot is nothing but garbage and im not sure what to do here..
[23:57] <josephseraos> erUSUL, I'm afraid to restart and the kernel has some panic...
[23:57] <Cpt_Zyph> can i boot in repair console and siable or change an x11 setting or something?
[23:57] <markoso> what is one can install from ubuntu softwae center
[23:57] <erUSUL> josephseraos: why do you think that could happen?
[23:57] <KeenanP> How do you get started creating a derivative?
[23:58] <erUSUL> josephseraos: run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install -f » if that and the previous command run without errors then all is all right
[23:58] <josephseraos> erUSUL, the system do not connect, turn on, ...
[23:59] <josephseraos> is upgrade others packs
[23:59] <ShapeShifter499> guys I got tightvncserver working but when I connect I don't see my currently running applications
[23:59] <josephseraos> erUSUL, is upgrading others programs
[23:59] <ShapeShifter499> how do I fix this?
[23:59] <erUSUL> josephseraos: ok
[23:59] <josephseraos> after, I'll try to restart


[04:42] <ShawnR> anyone here know how to set fixed width tabs in Firefox 13?
[04:43] <ShawnR> nothing in prefs or about:config and I tried creating a userChrome.css file and put some code I found online there... nothing works
[17:26] <ShawnR> it seems when my laptop goes in and back from hibernate, USB goes bad until reboot.  lsusb returns "unable to initialize libusb: -99"
[17:27] <ShawnR> any way to just reset/restart USB to maybe get that working again?
[17:27] <ShawnR> my usb mouse won't work until it starts working again, which kinda stinks
[17:35] <zoopster> ShawnR: likely a issue with a driver/kernel mod - have you done some research on it to see if others are reporting it?
[17:36] <ShawnR> tried to, but everyone is just talkin about their dell won't do USB on install of 11.04
[17:36] <ShawnR> mine works... jsut not if i hibernate and come back out
[17:36] <ShawnR> their resolution was to acpi=off in grub
[17:36] <zoopster> ShawnR: if you find what driver runs it you might be able to remove and re-insert it.
[17:36] <zoopster> yea that won't help you
[17:36] <ShawnR> that's what i was trying to figure out, but i'm not so awesome at knowing that
[17:36] <ShawnR> how do i find what driver is running my usb?
[17:36] <zoopster> heh...neither am i
[17:37] <ShawnR> fyi, my touchpad on the laptop works (which IIRC is connected via usb internally)


[04:28] <akgraner> Hi all!
[04:29] <akgraner> Dang it's almost midnight here :-(   sorry I wasn't around much today...
[04:57] <highvoltage> hi akgraner!
[04:58] <akgraner> highvoltage, hey!
[04:58] <akgraner> seems like forever since I said hi to ya
[04:58] <akgraner> are you all settled in and unpacked
[04:58] <highvoltage> ditto. are you doing ok?
[04:59] <highvoltage> kind of, I have around 5 boxes that still need to arrive
[04:59] <highvoltage> I guess they're stuck at customs or something :)
[04:59] <akgraner> I hope they show up soon
[04:59] <akgraner> do you remember what is in them
[05:00] <akgraner> I unpacked last summer and went "Oh wow I forgot about that"
[05:00] <akgraner> or "oh that is where that went"
[05:00] <highvoltage> yep. nothing too important at least. stuff like my CD collection, a hi-fi, wii fit and wii accessories, lcd displays, oh and one computer I actually care about. and I think then one more box with a bunch of other misc electronics
[05:01] <highvoltage> should I start adding some links for the planet section so long?
[05:01] <highvoltage> yeah I'm sure I'll get some surprises in the boxes at least :)
[05:02] <akgraner> highvoltage, sure - remember for the Planet  - if it's about a LoCo team just drop the link and title into the LoCo section
[05:03] <highvoltage> ok
[05:03] <akgraner> if it's about Canonical specific - like landscape or something then it goes into In Other News
[05:03] <akgraner> the planet is tricky sometimes as those can go in a lot of other places in the news letter
[05:03] <highvoltage> I noticed last week :)
[05:03] <akgraner> but don't sweat it b/c I'll move stuff around
[05:04] <highvoltage> that I've noticed, too!
[05:04] <akgraner> also it needs to have been posted between August 22 and 28th
[05:05] <highvoltage> are you going to UDS?
[05:05] <highvoltage> well, at least we're slowly but surely getting in the habbit of starting earlier
[05:05] <highvoltage> rome wasn't build in a day!
[05:05] <highvoltage> I think if you keep running things like you do, it will just be a short matter of time before things run like a smooth running engine
[05:07] <akgraner> highvoltage, thanks!  it's you all who do the work  -  I just rearrange things
[05:07] <akgraner> highvoltage,  I put in for sponsorship - I hope I get it
[05:08] <highvoltage> I'll hold thumbs!
[05:11] <akgraner> :-)  thanks
[05:11] <akgraner> will you be there?
[05:13] <akgraner> highvoltage, do you know JFo?
[05:14] <akgraner> he and I are doing a podcast now
[05:14] <akgraner> the 1st Episode was full of mistakes with sound and stuff
[05:14] <akgraner> but we had a blast doing it
[05:14] <highvoltage> akgraner: I saw your blog entry about it, I've been meaning to give it a listen
[05:15] <akgraner> I would advise listen on your computer as I forgot to equalize the sound
[05:15] <highvoltage> akgraner: I also found a whole bunch of cool edubuntu videos on youtube this week, I guess I'm going to buy a nice video camera and start a show or somwthing soon
[05:15] <highvoltage> heh, ok
[05:15] <akgraner> and in addition I am on the right speaker and JFo is on the left I think
[05:15] <akgraner> UGH
[05:16] <akgraner> highvoltage, awesome  - video tutorials seem to be very popular these days
[05:16] <akgraner> I am playing around with a UWN Live Video Cast
[05:16] <highvoltage> yes, we always have documentation problems, but it seems like more people are willing to make videos on how to do something than actually type out a howto
[05:16] <akgraner> I've almost got the background drape finished
[05:17] <highvoltage> previously I thought that videos would be more work, but it seems these days they've become quite easy
[05:18] <akgraner> seems that way
[05:18] <akgraner> I still find it not as easy as people make it out to be but not impossible either
[05:20] <highvoltage> akgraner: I also want to make little short stories promoting free software. if I could make even just one as cool as this one I'd be very, very happy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbk980jV7Ao
[05:20]  * akgraner looks
[05:22] <akgraner> highvoltage, hahahahahaha
[05:22] <akgraner> that is great
[18:58] <akgraner> hi everyone I am *finally* back online and I have power once again at my house!  woo hoo!!!  Now to get caught up on everything
[18:59] <holstein> akgraner: :)
[18:59] <holstein> WB to civilization
[18:59] <akgraner> I am like 7 hours behind schedule
[19:00] <akgraner> holstein, thanks
[19:00] <holstein> i heard it got crazy some places
[19:00] <holstein> it wasnt that bad here
[19:00] <holstein> weather-wise
[19:00] <akgraner> we had a guy take out a power pole
[19:00] <holstein> OH
[19:00] <akgraner> he tried to take a 90 Degree right turn at 70mph
[19:00] <holstein> well, at least you know who to blame, and throw eggs at this halloween
[19:00] <akgraner> they called in the lifeflight for him but then canceled it
[19:01] <akgraner> I don't think he made it :-(
[19:01] <holstein> drag :/
[19:01] <akgraner> That will be the 4th death here in 3 days
[19:01]  * holstein feels bad for making a joke to quick
[19:01] <holstein> that sux
[19:01] <akgraner> all car accidents
[19:01] <holstein> kids?
[19:02] <holstein> the way i drove when i was a kid was stupid
[19:02] <akgraner> nope   - but and elder couple who were friends of my parents got t-boned by a guy in an intersection they were killed instantly
[19:02] <akgraner> that was Wednesday
[19:02] <holstein> wow akgraner
[19:02] <holstein> sorry to hear that
[19:03] <akgraner> yesterday a girl on her way to marion via 74 lost control of her car and didn't make it
[19:03] <akgraner> and now today this accident..
[19:03] <holstein> we got some crazy road ways around here
[19:03] <akgraner> that we do
[19:04] <holstein> i bet you let your kids getting their permits at 21 ;)
[19:04] <holstein> my little sister started driving
[19:04] <holstein> makes me nervous
[19:04] <akgraner> hehe nope becca starts actual driving on Monday
[19:05] <holstein> i totally get what my mom was talking about when i was a kid
[19:05] <akgraner> and the following Monday will get her learners permit
[19:05] <holstein> becca seems like a sharp one though
[19:05] <akgraner> I think she is :-)
[19:05] <akgraner> ok so does everyone have a handle on their sections
[19:05] <holstein> akgraner: we're editing the Gdoc?
[19:06] <holstein> right?
[19:06] <holstein> for adding summaries?
[19:06] <akgraner> you can add where ever you are comfortable
[19:06] <akgraner> it's only on Monday's I ask people not to add to the wiki
[19:06] <akgraner> b/e I am in and out of it so much
[19:07] <holstein> https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AdKZelXU8Y2LZGNrcHRkYmhfODlkODNxNnRnZA&hl=en
[19:07]  * holstein looking here
[19:07] <holstein> i'll keep an eye there
[19:07] <holstein> as the 'in other news' section develops
[19:08] <akgraner> let me see if the wiki has the sites listed on it now
[19:09] <akgraner> holstein, and internalkernel  - chan has added a ton of sources to the wiki under in the press  - you can check those sites to see if there is anything from the 22-24th
[19:09] <akgraner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/LinkSuggestions
[19:11] <holstein> akgraner: ok i can do that
[19:11] <holstein> and i copy them over to the Gdoc if so
[19:11] <holstein> ?
[19:12] <holstein> in the same section, with the usual formatting
[19:12] <akgraner> yep title and link
[19:12] <akgraner> and summary if you can write them
[19:12] <akgraner> or don't mind writing them
[19:13] <akgraner> it's easy to move stuff around later
[19:13] <holstein> sure
[19:13] <holstein> i'll get on that
[19:13] <akgraner> and better to have an not need than to need and not have
[19:13] <akgraner> s/an/than
[19:16] <holstein> i think we need the UMN
[19:17] <holstein> ubuntu *monthly* newsletter ;)
[19:17] <internalkernel> :P +1
[19:17] <holstein> hehe
[19:17] <holstein> internalkernel: im looking at OMGubuntu
[19:18] <akgraner> holstein, the thing would be huge
[19:18] <internalkernel> Im just getting down to some work... but I'll dig through those links this evening.
[19:18] <holstein> you want internalkernel i'll let you know what ive gotten to
[19:19] <akgraner> thanks guys!
[19:19] <holstein> akgraner: and it would take a week solid to get it together
[19:19] <internalkernel> lol... work work work