[03:25] <GreenCloud> :D
[03:25] <GreenCloud> 'morning everyone
[12:06] <GreenCloud> :D
[15:17] <compromised> c/dns shipcode


[11:02] <JonathanD> Morning.
[11:10] <rmg51> morning JonathanD
[14:12] <InHisName> Mornin' all
[14:14] <teddy-dbear> o/
[15:38] <SamuraiAlba> Good bacon to all!
[15:39]  * andrew slaps SamuraiAlba with ham
[15:43]  * SamuraiAlba gets freaky with the ham
[16:19] <waltman> SamuraiAlba: I'm away at a conference this week, and they're got some amazingly nommy bacon at their breakfast buffet :)
[16:31] <JonathanD> waltman: I believe he's now on his way.
[16:32] <waltman> Hah.


[05:14] <fourcolors> is anyoen in this channel?
[05:14] <fourcolors> anyone*
[06:36] <darkxst> fourcolors, !ask
[06:36] <darkxst> !ask
[06:36] <de-facto> there is this very neat snappy windows tiling function in gnome shell, when you move a window to the left or right edge it becomes "halt-maximized" in that screen side: how can i modify that behaviour to use quaters of the screen instead?
[06:36] <de-facto> what i want to achieve is moving a window to the left or right edge will half-tile it, and moving it to to the corners will quater-tile it, moving it to the top will maximize it, moving it to the bottom will minimize it
[06:37] <de-facto> are there any settings or extensions which will allow such behavior?
[08:20] <darkxst> de-facto, not sure if that would be possible from an extension, but if it is surely there an extension already
[08:24] <de-facto> it seems someone had exact the same idea already and wrote it: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GNOME-Mutter-New-Tiling
[08:25] <de-facto> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z43U-Bnl_nw
[13:28] <iiious> vim package without python support?
[13:29] <iiious> vim --version     reports   "-python  -python3"
[14:36] <notnown> hello
[14:36] <notnown> ubuntu gnome 16.04 audio not working please help if possible
[14:37] <notknown> audio not working 16.04 ubuntu gnome
[16:41]  * JockeTF 'd would love to have GNOME Builder in the staging PPA. :)


[01:32] <misingnoglic> Hi, I'm trying to get my computer to connect to wireless networks but that doesn't seem to be an option in the connecting area, how do I enable that?
[02:27] <yuitimothy> Does anyone know how to change the system proxy setting in xubuntu?
[02:29] <avansledright> http://askubuntu.com/questions/150210/how-do-i-set-systemwide-proxy-servers-in-xubuntu-lubuntu-or-ubuntu-studio
[03:03] <yuitimothy> @avansledright Thanks. Big help
[03:04] <avansledright> no problem. did it work?
[03:04] <yuitimothy> yep
[03:04] <avansledright> awesome!
[05:55] <xubuntu730> hiall
[05:56] <xubuntu730>  I've recently installed XUbuntu 12.04.4 LTS on my desktop
[05:56] <xubuntu730> However I have one problem- I am unable to shutdown or reboot properly.
[05:57] <xubuntu730> how can i fix this
[05:57] <xubuntu730> any help would be great
[05:59] <SirLagz> what happens when you try to shutdown
[06:19] <xubuntu730> the hardware dows not shut down, fans keep on moving, CPU is oon, i have to manually press power button to shut down the CPU
[06:20] <xubuntu730> Also when i select reboot menu the computer does not reboot. I have to hold down power button to shut it down and again press power button to start the desktop.
[07:10] <xubuntu480> asd
[11:13] <skippezot> could someone explain how to instal this plugin : https://code.launchpad.net/~pmarchwiak/synapse-project/recoll-plugin
[11:48] <knome> skippezot, first, it looks like that plugin is unmaintained; second, it would involve building the package
[11:49] <skippezot> thx for reply
[11:50] <knome> that being said... i'm not sure if it's worth doing that.
[11:50] <skippezot> you know where i can find info on building packages
[11:50] <cfhowlett> !packaging|skippezot,
[11:51] <knome> not that...
[11:51] <knome> !build
[11:51] <knome> skippezot, ^  that would be a generic guide
[11:51] <skippezot> cheers
[11:52] <knome> skippezot, briefly: pull the code from bzr (launchpad), run 'make' (usually) and 'sudo make install' (usually, installs package to all users and to the standard locatios; WARNING: you can't revert this 'installation' easily unless the Makefiles has such a feature)
[11:59] <skippezot> thx man so it's like I read on forum wasn't really sure
[11:59] <skippezot> need to read a bit more before i'll give it a try
[13:04] <GridCube> in 13.04 whenever i changed my wallpaper the lightdm login wallpaper changed as well, since i updated to 13.10 this does not happen any more,  and i don't see any option on lightdm.conf to enable this feature back
[15:41] <GridCube> in 13.04 whenever i changed my wallpaper the lightdm login wallpaper changed as well, since i updated to 13.10 this does not happen any more,  and i don't see any option on lightdm.conf to enable this feature back
[16:06] <sohail-ahmed> I am having trouble connecting to internet with my laptop which was previously working fine
[16:06] <sohail-ahmed> would somebody help?
[16:06] <GridCube> !details | sohail-ahmed
[16:07] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: define "previously" a bit more.. previsously in windows? before a system upgrade? just randomly and it could be a hardware failure?
[16:09] <sohail-ahmed> I did a xubunutu install perhaps a year ago and every thing was fine, then suddenly a month ago it stopped working. At present I dont have those indicator plugin, those up and down arrows, used to switch connection, perhaps due to network manager
[16:10] <sohail-ahmed> the funny thing is I was able to ping machines on lan, when I was in the office and also I was able to ping the address <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:10] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: if i didnt nothing to cause the issue, like a system upgrade, i would waant to rule out hardware failure
[16:11] <sohail-ahmed> read my last sentence plz, it says something do you still think it is a hardware failure
[16:11] <sohail-ahmed> at above I was talking about today
[16:11] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: i read it, and the others.. carefully. im saying, i personally would rule out *all* hardware issues.. the router.. my isp, my networking device.. i would do this by troubleshoting carefully
[16:12] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, try re-adding the plugin indicator to your panel
[16:12] <sohail-ahmed> I already did
[16:12] <GridCube> also try to launch nm-connection-editor from a terminal
[16:12] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: did what?
[16:12] <GridCube> removing all the known connections and re-doing them might fix some problems
[16:12] <sohail-ahmed> I tried to add the idicator plugin from the panel add items but the arrows does appear
[16:13] <GridCube> make sure that your wifi is turned on
[16:13] <sohail-ahmed> actually I reinstalled the network manager
[16:13] <sohail-ahmed> by downloading the .debs
[16:13] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: what debs? from where?
[16:13] <GridCube> check that you have internet if you cable your notebook
[16:14] <sohail-ahmed> at present my directory for system-connections at /etc/NetworkManager/ does not have any connection
[16:14] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: i would use a live CD to rule out my config, and test my hardware
[16:15] <sohail-ahmed> I have already plugged in the internet cable and its not [picking it up. as before the auto ethernet is not working
[16:15] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: sure.. thats what makes me think isp, or router/modem
[16:15] <sohail-ahmed> since there is no connection by that name in the /etc/NetworkManger/system-connection
[16:15] <sohail-ahmed> no. I am talking to you from the same router
[16:16] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: what deb did you install? and how/why?
[16:16] <holstein> have you tried a live CD?
[16:16] <sohail-ahmed> GridCube, nm-connection-editor says the program is not installed
[16:17] <sohail-ahmed> no I have not ttried live cd.
[16:17] <sohail-ahmed> is it the only option left?
[16:17] <sohail-ahmed> and the question instead is , what would I do If the live CD internet connection worked
[16:18] <GridCube> reinstall ?
[16:18] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: you would know soemthing about where the issue is
[16:18] <sohail-ahmed> opssssssss!!!!!!!!!!11
[16:18] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: thats would tell you the hardware isnt failing
[16:18] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, if you dont have nm-connection-editor there is something very wrong
[16:18] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, do you have nmcli ¿?
[16:19] <Kimary> Hello someone speak italian?
[16:19] <GridCube> !it | Kimary
[16:19] <GridCube> :D
[16:19] <sohail-ahmed> GridCube, when I typed nmcli it says error while loading shared libraries....
[16:19] <sohail-ahmed> holstein, how would I proceed?
[16:20] <sohail-ahmed> if I know about the issue
[16:20] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, it looks like there is your issue
[16:20] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: i would load a live CD.. run it live, not installing. test my internet connections wired/wireles... then, i would know the issue is in my installed system, or bad hardware
[16:20] <sohail-ahmed> I already mentioned that today after a couple of minutes of working I manged to ping my lan pcs in office, and also I was able to ping the address <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:20] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, i would try to boot the machine using an old kernel if available
[16:21] <holstein> older kernels should be accessible from grub when holding shift after the bios screens
[16:21] <GridCube> ^^^
[16:22] <GridCube> but then again, as holstein is saying you might want to try a livecd anyway, if that works then you have the option of figuring whats wrong and fixing it, or reinstalling and override everything
[16:22] <sohail-ahmed> which kernert should I boot to: plenty of them are available from 3.5.0-45- gnereic to 3.5.0-23
[16:23] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, an older one
[16:23] <sohail-ahmed> 23?
[16:23] <GridCube> sure why not
[16:23] <sohail-ahmed> for 23 I have two options, with recovery mode or without recovery mode
[16:23] <GridCube> without
[16:25] <sohail-ahmed> the xubuntu splash screen says waiting for network configuration...
[16:25] <sohail-ahmed> waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration
[16:25] <GridCube> can't you escape it?
[16:26] <sohail-ahmed> yes when I pressed esc, it went to the black screen and now my login is avaialble, I think it booted without network configuation as it is doing earlier
[16:27] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, welp
[16:27] <sohail-ahmed> welp??? sorry?
[16:28] <GridCube> its like saying "well, i dont know then"
[16:28] <sohail-ahmed> I have my desktop and actually the same desktop with internet arrows.
[16:29] <sohail-ahmed> sorry without
[16:29] <sohail-ahmed> *** without
[16:30] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, something went wrong, maybe the kernel update changed your setting and by installing the nm debs you broke the setting further, anyway, as holstein said, test using a livesession, if things work you can rule out hardware issues, then is a matter of getting yourself to study how to fix the problem or reinstall
[16:31] <sohail-ahmed> would you tell me one thing?
[16:31] <sohail-ahmed> I have a network indicator plugin, the one showing the packets going out and going in.
[16:32] <sohail-ahmed> the bars in that plugin are not moving now but they were moving in the morning when I was in the office, where I tried to do ping -c4 <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:32] <sohail-ahmed> and I got 0% loss
[16:32] <sohail-ahmed> packet loss actually.
[16:33] <sohail-ahmed> So my question is: does this not confirm that my card is working perfectly alright
[16:33] <sohail-ahmed> ?
[16:34] <GridCube> i do not know
[16:36] <sohail-ahmed> ok tell me one thing, if the live cd internet worked then what should I do afterward?
[16:36] <GridCube> if things work you can rule out hardware issues, then is a matter of getting yourself to study how to fix the problem or reinstall
[16:37] <sohail-ahmed> can you tell how to add connections when there is no indicator plugin for internet?
[16:40] <sohail-ahmed> ok I will be right back after making a live linux usb from windows
[16:40] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, using nm-connection-editor or nmcli
[16:41] <sohail-ahmed> but I already told you that none of them is working
[16:42] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: its a fact that something is not working.. the question is, why?
[16:42] <sohail-ahmed> and I purged the network manager this morning
[16:42] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: rule out hardware.. it wont take long, and its a good/easy step
[16:42] <sohail-ahmed> Ok mates I will be right back
[16:42] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: then, you can decide if you'd like to try and repair, or reinstall.. or troubleshoot in a larger support channel
[16:43] <sohail-ahmed> larger support channel?
[16:43] <sohail-ahmed> ?
[16:43] <sohail-ahmed> what do you mean by larger support chanel
[16:43] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: yes.. #ubuntu ,since this is not related to XFCE or xubuntu necessarily, youcan try the main channel for more action
[16:44] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: though, i feel after the live CD, you will have an idea that the hardware works or not, and you can go from there
[16:44] <sohail-ahmed> oh you are saying that If its not an hardware issue then I should go the #ubuntu chanel with my problem? correct?
[16:44] <holstein> any kernel upgrade can cause the drivers to change, and break something
[16:44] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: no
[16:45] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: im saying, the #ubuntu channel is factually more active.. and you may find more help there.. and you are not haveing an issue with xubuntu or xfce, so, that could be a helpful option for you
[16:45] <sohail-ahmed> Ok. thanks I will first update you here.
[17:01] <sohail-ahmed> holstein, and GridCube I have checked that I can access internet through live usb
[17:02] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: so, you can assume, at least for the length of testing, the hardware was functioning properly,and its likely not a hardware failure
[17:02] <sohail-ahmed> So it possible to repair my installation through live usb
[17:02] <sohail-ahmed> ?
[17:02] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, then there is some software issue, as holstein said, you might have better help gettin someone who knows this issues on #ubuntu or you can reinstall
[17:02] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: so, it could have been an upgrade that "broke" support for the device.. i didnt check the scroll back, but did you try the older kernel?
[17:03] <sohail-ahmed> yes I did
[17:03] <sohail-ahmed> actually the most older one
[17:03] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: what i suggest to users is this.. since *all* hard drives fail, go ahead and take this opportunity to backup your data.. and be read for reinstallation.. then, you can go forward with *any* option
[17:04] <sohail-ahmed> so I repeat my question, is it possible to do a damage control using a live usb
[17:04] <sohail-ahmed> ?
[17:05] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: above *is* what i suggest for that
[17:06] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: anything i would do like that would be *after* having properly backed up my data
[17:06] <sohail-ahmed> I need some enlightment, I clicked install xubuntu in my live usb sesssion, and now I have couple of options to choose from since the live usb has detected my ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[17:07] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: that will fresh install and wipe your data
[17:07] <sohail-ahmed> upgrade ubuntu to Xubuntu 13.10
[17:07] <sohail-ahmed> is it wise option to go for??
[17:07] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: factually, as i said, that will wipe your data
[17:08] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: so, ifyou have your data backed up, and want to install 13.10, then that will happen
[17:08] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: there is no specific "wise" choice.. just what you want or need, and what you can do
[17:08] <sohail-ahmed> so not an option.. though in the applet it says it will keep my personal files and by this I assume he meant the whole /home directory. correct???
[17:09] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: i backup my data.. i suggest you backup your data, and suggested that before.. what is that process fails?
[17:09] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: whatever hard drive you are on *will* fail, so, it is not a waste of time to prepare for that
[17:10] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: then, having prepared for what will occur at some point in the future will prepare you for a failure now
[17:10] <sohail-ahmed> frankly I have no way to transfereing data to some other hard drive.
[17:10] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: ok.. then, you accept the risk, and no that, even if this works OK, some time you *will* lose your data
[17:11] <holstein> i cant guarantee that step will work and preserve your data.. i can gurantee that if you have a backup
[17:13] <sohail-ahmed> I think before attempting this step, as both of you have kindly suggested , go to #ubuntu, since its their flavor that has an issue.
[17:13] <holstein> sure.. but, even in #ubuntu, that hard drive will fail.. you should have a backup of your files..
[17:13] <holstein> then, anything you try, you can recover from.. otherwise, you have no gurantee like that..
[17:14] <holstein> a fresh install *will* fix it.. for example
[17:15] <sohail-ahmed> I have an intution that the problem could be fixed without going through a major install, though I am still a noob with linux
[17:17] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: no doubt.. its all open, and im sure you can fix it.. but, it may take less time to properly backup (which should be done regardless) and reinstall..
[17:19] <sohail-ahmed> the problem with reinstall is that I would be needing to reinstall all the softwares that are currently installed on my machine, regardless of the backup
[17:19] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: sure, which will also be happening when that hard drive fails
[17:20] <holstein> sohail-ahmed: you can create a list of those.. or use synaptic package manager to create a list of those that can be easily duplicated in a fresh install
[17:49] <xubuntu149> Hi, I have a question : since my HDD is dead, i would like to know if it is possible to install Xubuntu on a 16GB SD card instead?
[17:54] <knome> yes
[17:54] <xubuntu149> Just the same way i would install it on a hdd or is there anything more to do?
[17:55] <knome> the same way will do
[17:55] <xubuntu149> thanks
[17:55] <knome> as long as the installer recognizes the SD card, you are fine
[17:55] <xubuntu149> ok thanks a lot
[17:55] <knome> no problem, good luck
[17:56] <Giant81_> can someone give me a quick run down on DNS and how it works in xubuntu?  I'm on xubuntu 13.10 and the biggest problem is that the resolv.conf is not what it used to be I guess
[17:59] <knome> Giant81_, so... what's the actual problem?
[18:00] <Giant81_> I'm reading now
[18:01] <Giant81_> but I was trying to figure out what my DNS servers were via CLI, then change them if needed
[18:01] <xubuntu943> hi
[18:01] <Giant81_> it used to be fairly simple, modify /etc/resolv.conf  but it appears it's gotten more involved with resolfconf etc..
[18:01] <Giant81_> just a new way of doing things that I'm learning to use
[18:02] <knome> Giant81_, why not edit the DNS servers via the network manager?
[18:02] <Giant81_> sorry I'm a bit of a cli monkey, or when SSHed in from remote
[18:03] <knome> nmcli
[18:05] <Giant81_> ty I'll hit the man pages
[18:13] <xubuntu533> holaaaaaa
[18:16] <GridCube> !es | xubuntu533
[18:25] <sohail-ahmed> GridCube, holstein, I am final able to get it done without a shred to reinstalling, all I just needed to do was: sudo ifup eth0. Thanks for you time, God bless you both
[18:25] <GridCube> lol sohail-ahmed
[18:25] <GridCube> nice that XD
[18:30] <sohail-ahmed> GridCube, I still don't have those network arrows, but I have noticed that internet is working really fast
[18:31] <GridCube> sohail-ahmed, now you should try again nm-connection-editor
[18:31] <sohail-ahmed> its not installed since I dont have network-manager installed
[18:33] <GridCube> well, now you have internet, do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install network-manager
[18:33] <GridCube> that should bring back the arrows you see in the indicators plugin
[18:36] <sohail-ahmed> I have already done the update, and I think I should not install network-manager since it manges my networ poorly, moreover I am having a great bandwidth now which I have never encountered here at home.
[18:37] <sohail-ahmed> rather I should not have said poorly, without network-manager, I have learned a great deal about the linux
[18:38] <GridCube> :)
[18:38] <sohail-ahmed> do you know of a way to add more connections?
[18:38] <sohail-ahmed> without network-manager?
[18:44] <GridCube> nope
[19:03] <wabbla> sohail-ahmed: what do you mean by more connections? different ip-configurations on the same interface or different interfaces?
[19:13] <wabbla> in the latter you could add more interfaces to /etc/network/interfaces and use ifup/ifdown to connect/disconnect, in the former you could also add new connections to /etc/network/interfaces, but use a logical name instead of the interface name. then you could use e.g. ifup eth0=<logical name>. see the man page for ifup regarding logical interfaces. this is a very comfortable feature for wlan roaming.
[19:19] <sohail-ahmed> wabbla, that's exactly what I was asking for!!
[19:19] <sohail-ahmed> many thanks!!
[19:20] <wabbla> you're welcome :-)
[19:38] <RuudKuin> Hi all, does someone know the correct way to install an Eizo driver via terminal? It looks very choppy, while it runs fine under Bodhi Linux...
[19:39] <RuudKuin> anyone???
[19:40] <RuudKuin> Hmmmm, no support, better be using Bodhi than, their IRC is very much alive, bye!!!
[19:41] <holstein> RuudKuin: ?
[19:41] <holstein> RuudKuin: what distro are you using.. try patiently using the suggested support for the distro you are using.. but, the Eizo driver creator would be the best place to start for suport
[19:41] <RuudKuin> holstein: do you have an answer?
[19:42] <RuudKuin> Xubuntu, that's why I'm here...
[19:43] <RuudKuin> Bodhi gave no problems, it's an Ubuntu derivative as well...
[19:43] <holstein> RuudKuin: nothing about xubuntu or bodhi is preventing the creators of the Eizo driver from giving you a package that installs
[19:44] <holstein> RuudKuin: you would need to share more details, like, what you are trying and what the errors are.. but, if you are not using xubuntu, bodhi channels are the best place
[19:47] <RuudKuin> holstein: I'm currently using a fresh install of Xubuntu, because it's light for an oldtimer PC and runs XFCE, but it seems that it doesn't support an Eizo Nanao 15" screen.
[19:47] <holstein> RuudKuin: ive never needed a driver for a screen.. but, i have used custom xorg.conf files to send necessary confiuration to certain monitors
[19:48] <RuudKuin> Radial gradients are choppy and very ugly, when running Bodhi, there was pre-installed support for that same screen
[19:48] <holstein> RuudKuin: its likely not the screen at all then.. its more likely the graphics card driver
[19:48] <holstein> RuudKuin: you could also be comparing a version of bodhi based on 12.04, and using xubuntu 13.10.. those would have different hardware support scnearios
[19:49] <RuudKuin> holstein: when searching for additional drivers, it doesn't tell me anything on the graphics card support... ;-((
[19:50] <holstein> RuudKuin: i would start by appying all upgrades and rebooting.. then, determine what graphics card you have, and looking for alternative drivers (proprietary drivers) you can install and try which may sort out your issues..
[19:50] <notwist> I'm using 14.04 and it's a pain that my screen blanks after 10 minutes, disabling screensaver and power management features does nothing. Is there a better way to solve this than editing xorg.conf ?
[19:51] <holstein> i would then also consider looking at the bodhi that you report working, and go with the xuubuntu version that is the same.. 12.04, for example
[19:51] <holstein> !14.04
[19:51] <RuudKuin> what's the terminal command of finding the right graphics card? holstein
[19:51] <notwist> holstein: thanks
[19:51] <holstein> RuudKuin: lspci is the command that lists the devices.. you should only have one graphics card..
[19:53] <RuudKuin> holstein: thanks! Here's the output:
[19:53] <holstein> RuudKuin: i dont need it
[19:53] <RuudKuin> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
[19:53] <holstein> RuudKuin: intel are usually well supported, but, i think you are assuming the issue is with the monitor
[19:53] <RuudKuin> thanks anyway! Bye for now...
[19:53] <holstein> RuudKuin: i would try 1204
[19:54]  * RuudKuin out!
[19:54] <holstein> RuudKuin: bodhi is based on 12.04, and if you have older hardware, that may be the distro that supports your device out of the box
[19:59] <xubuntu408> hello
[19:59] <xubuntu408> can anybody help me
[19:59] <holstein> xubuntu408: just ask.. and a volunteer will help if they can
[20:00] <xubuntu408> I have a prblem downloading films
[20:00] <holstein> xubuntu408: nothing about xubuntu is preventing you from downloading anything.. what types of files? are you sure its not on the server side where the problem is? or permission related?
[20:02] <xubuntu408> I try to download a file from piratebay and when I click the magnet download should start but I get a small window which says: start application. And in this window <i have to choose the application but I can not find transmission
[20:03] <holstein> xubuntu408: those sites are notorious for malware, or missing files..
[20:03] <holstein> xubuntu408: i suggest you ask the content creator for a copy, or, read up on torrent downloading
[20:04] <holstein> !torrent
[20:05] <xubuntu408> when I used Windows I didn't have any problem with downloading but now with xubuntu it doesn't work
[20:07] <xubuntu408> I use Transmission, the download program included in ubuntu
[20:09] <holstein> xubuntu408: you are *not* trying to download anything from "the pirate bay".. you get a torrent, then, transmission is one of the clients that can use the link you got from the pirate bay to download the file from peers
[20:10] <holstein> xubuntu408: the torrent client you used in windows was different.. windows is differnt..
[20:10] <holstein> xubuntu408: see the link above to learn about how to use transsmission and/or torrents.. otherwise, ask the creator of the file for a copy of the file you are looking for that you can use
[20:10] <xubuntu408> ok this i understand
[20:13] <xubuntu408> thnx, I will try and ultimately be succesfull
[22:00] <Sweyn> Hey guys, somebody out there to help a xubuntu beginner ?
[22:00] <holstein> Sweyn: welcome!.. just ask and a volunteer may be able to help
[22:02] <Sweyn> Thank you, well, I was planning to install xubuntu on my chromebook, to extend its possibilities, planning to install it on a 32 gb usb drive, any ideas if it is enough to run WINE if necessary ?
[22:06] <holstein> Sweyn: i just got the 32gb chromebook you are likely talking about.. nothing about xubuntu is preventing you from running it there, and utilizing wine
[22:06] <holstein> Sweyn: i personally dont make decisions based on wine support or use, since it can be challenging to predict what can or might work properly
[22:07] <Sweyn> Ok I see, well in a way its a relief
[22:07] <Sweyn> I wanted to play some small games on it
[22:07] <Sweyn> just another thing
[22:07] <holstein> Sweyn: and, as im saying, nothing is preventing that
[22:08] <Sweyn> I can't seem to access to the ubuntu "store" don't know how its called in english, I'm french, when I open it, it closes right after, is it because I'm on a usb drive ?
[22:08] <holstein> !fr
[22:09] <Sweyn> (did my message got blocked ?)
[22:09] <holstein> Sweyn: could be for any reason from internet connectivity, to who knows
[22:09] <Sweyn> oh ok, still I think I'll have some trouble to get used to this
[22:09] <Sweyn> I can't even install flash player
[22:09] <Sweyn> don't know how to do it
[22:09] <holstein> !flash
[22:09] <holstein> i use the chrome brwoser, since it has its own flash
[22:10] <Sweyn> Oh ok, did you download it from the xubuntu store or from google's netpage ?
[22:10] <holstein> Sweyn: chome is not available from the ubuntu repositories
[22:11] <Sweyn> OK, I'm trying this out
[22:16] <DamadFR> holstein: Chromium browser is available in the universe repositories - I had it installed it from the package manager.
[22:20] <holstein> DamadFR: yup.. and i am referencing the chrome browser..
[22:20] <holstein> DamadFR: the chrome brwoser is the one with flash built in, though, one can use the pepperflash included in chrome with chromium, and you are welcome to share with Sweyn how to do that
[22:21] <holstein> otherwise, one of the easiest ways for a new user to get the latest flash in linux is in the chrome browser.. not that im saying chrome is "good" or "better"
[22:21] <Sweyn> Well seems firefox made the update itself, I can now read videos on youtube
[22:22] <Sweyn> Holstein, I don't know if you have the same chromebook as me but does it have a x86 cpu ?
[22:22] <holstein> Sweyn: i have an intel precessor. .not an ARM
[22:23] <Sweyn> Okay fine, did you tried some small games with it ?
[22:23] <DamadFR> holstein: sorry, so I mixed things up: chrome / chromium
[22:23] <holstein> Sweyn: as i said, i literallly just got it.. ive had it about 35 minutes.. im not planning on gaming. nor did i intend to use it for games.. nothing about xubuntu is preventing you from gaming with it
[22:24] <holstein> DamadFR: no worries :)
[22:24] <Sweyn> Ok then, guess I'll have to find out by myself, when I'll manage to make it install on my usb flash
[22:25] <Sweyn> these celerons appear to be quite powerfull though
[22:25] <holstein> Sweyn: xubuntu playes the games linux is allowed to have
[22:25] <holstein> Sweyn: the hardware is not intended for gaming in any OS, but, if the specs work, it'll work
[22:25] <Sweyn> Yup, I'll try by myself, or look for tests somewhere
[22:26] <Sweyn> Still, I'm not entirely convinced in my chromebook
[22:26] <Sweyn> it runs fine
[22:26] <Sweyn> but without internet you're pretty much with a dead brick
[22:26] <holstein> it runs "as advertised"... the only reason you would be unsure is by trying to make it replace a gaming rig
[22:27] <holstein> but, xubuntu will run on there are well, as advertised.. steam should support the lower-end games on here fine
[22:27] <Sweyn> yeah sure, I don't wanna use it to hard games, I already have my desktop for that, but if it can replace a little some times, it would be nice that way !
[22:31] <Sweyn> Where does USB flash drives appear in xubuntu please ?
[22:34] <holstein> Sweyn: i just use the file manager
[22:34] <Sweyn> well seems like it doesn't appear, because I'm already on it ...
[22:34] <Sweyn> Maybe there's some limitations on using the OS on a usb key
[22:34] <Sweyn> that would make sense
[22:35] <Sweyn> okay then, I think I have everything I need to know
[22:35] <Sweyn> I hope I'll manage to get it working on my laptop
[22:36] <Sweyn> Thanks Holstein, I'll probably ask you fore some help later, Bye !
[22:37] <xubuntu610> buona sera a tutti
[22:38] <xubuntu610> c'è qualcuno disposto ad aiutarmi?
[22:38] <knome> !it | xubuntu610
[22:39] <xubuntu610>  /join #ubuntu-it


[00:35] <tbone> anyone know where kdm gets launched from
[00:35] <tbone> like where in what script?
[00:45] <Dragnslcr> tbone- looks like it gets started by init
[01:11] <ryan___> how do we see the topic?
[01:16] <smith> how can I go one tab further/back in Konsole? in Firefox, I use the commands Ctrl+Tab or Ctrl+Shift+Tab, respectively. What is the equivalent form in Konsole?
[01:24] <vge> alt+> (atm im not at kde so cannot be sure)
[01:25] <smith> vge: doesn't work
[01:27] <smith> I can change the shortcut settings so that Alt+1 switches to the first tab etc
[01:27] <Dragnslcr> smith- it's the shortcut settings for Next View and Previous View
[01:27] <Dragnslcr> Looks like they're shift-left and shift-right by default
[01:28] <smith> Dragnslcr: yep. thanks
[01:28] <vge> smith: my bad, i guess iw changed em in some point
[01:41] <compilerwriter> I have just upgraded the memory in my box  from 512 to 1G.  I have no data on the box as yet.  Should I resize the swap partition or just do a fresh install?
[01:45] <compilerwriter> wow slow channel tonight
[01:46] <jamesjedimaster> it's not necessary to modify your swap
[01:47] <jamesjedimaster> everybody is sleeping, so be patient :)
[01:50] <tbone> kdm is in my init.d but does anyone know what rc directory links to this file
[01:50] <tbone> i think my symbolic link got deleted somehow
[02:02] <Dragnslcr> tbone- should be in rc2.d, rc3.d, rc4.d, and rc5.d as S30kdm
[02:34] <cctblaspascal> hola
[02:34] <cctblaspascal> como estan
[02:34] <cctblaspascal> ?
[02:34] <cctblaspascal> saludos
[02:34] <FloodBotK2> cctblaspascal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:34] <Dragnslcr> !es | cctblaspascal
[02:35] <cctblaspascal> ey
[02:35] <cctblaspascal> como funciona esto?
[02:35] <cctblaspascal> alguien puede orientarme?
[02:35] <cctblaspascal> holaaaaaa
[02:38] <LjL> cctblaspascal: escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[03:09] <gnathan87> hi, I've been trying to find a way to adjust the opacity of panels in plasma - is there any way to do this?
[03:14] <Guest51882> Do I have to use the terminal to install firefox ?
[03:14] <daz> you can always use the butterflies
[03:17] <khronics> Anyone able to help me with initramfs?        Attempting to complete a usb hard drive live install via http://rudd-o.com/en/linux-and-free-software/a-better-way-to-create-a-customized-ubuntu-live-usb-drive   anyone??
[03:18] <rafytafy> will kubuntu ever have the option of a highmem64 kernel ?
[03:19] <nightwlkr> hellow
[03:19] <rafytafy> hi
[03:19] <nightwlkr> i just installed kubuntu but having problems with my network connection
[03:19] <nightwlkr> this is the 2nd board
[03:20] <rafytafy> what kind of problems
[03:20] <khronics> anyone familiar with initramfs   prompt
[03:20] <nightwlkr> well the driver is installed.. but when i set ip's in system settings it just don't work
[03:20] <Dragnslcr> Guest51882- should be able to install Firefox through any package manager
[03:20] <nightwlkr> i went into terminal ifconfig eth0 etc... it works
[03:21] <rafytafy> what driver?
[03:21] <nightwlkr> however apt-get don't work..package manager doesn't fetch updates irc won't connect
[03:21] <nightwlkr> i think both boards have a built in SIS cards
[03:22] <nightwlkr> 1 is tyan board the 2nd elite 761gx-m754
[03:22] <rafytafy> msi?
[03:22] <nightwlkr> both with AMD Processors
[03:22] <rafytafy> oh you said elite
[03:22] <nightwlkr> ECS Elite Group
[03:22] <rafytafy> sorry a bit tiered, but hmm
[03:23] <rafytafy> i use a 790fx gd70
[03:23] <nightwlkr> no problems?
[03:23] <nightwlkr> but my tyan is a server board
[03:23] <rafytafy> if you call lack of lm sensors support a problem....but otherwise it flies
[03:24] <nightwlkr> well i donno what to call, been having hard times with linux ever since i decided to eliminate windows 1ce and for all :P
[03:25] <nightwlkr> and that 4 days from now
[03:26] <rafytafy> hmm found the system info for your mobo
[03:26] <rafytafy> lets see
[03:26] <nightwlkr> ive installed kubuntu 8.04 previously on my other pc ..the ELITE it was working fine b4
[03:26] <rafytafy> http://hardware4linux.info/system/2252/
[03:28] <rafytafy> ok nightwlkr you might need the sis900 module
[03:28] <rafytafy> to get ethernet up and running
[03:29] <rafytafy> according to this sys spec page
[03:29] <nightwlkr> i'm on the tyan board now..let me check there if it's the same thing
[03:30] <rafytafy> ok
[03:31] <nightwlkr> Rtl 81xx
[03:31] <rafytafy> wireless right?
[03:31] <nightwlkr> 8139
[03:31] <nightwlkr> nope
[03:32] <nightwlkr> wired
[03:32] <rafytafy> wired?
[03:32] <rafytafy> ok
[03:39] <nightwlkr> found module 8139too will try this if it works
[03:40] <rafytafy> cool
[03:43] <nightwlkr> let's c where to download :(
[03:44] <rafytafy> where to d/l?
[03:44] <nightwlkr> ya
[03:44] <rafytafy> desktop
[03:44] <rafytafy> :P
[03:44] <nightwlkr> i can't get it from hardware4linux there is no download section
[03:44] <rafytafy> oh
[03:45] <nightwlkr> lol
[03:45] <nightwlkr> ya from
[03:45] <nightwlkr> 6:45 am so u have to excuse me on those errors :P
[03:48] <nightwlkr> i wonder why kde4 has so many problems
[03:48] <rafytafy> no idea
[03:48] <rafytafy> im still using 8.04
[03:48] <rafytafy> ill upgrade with next lts
[03:49] <nightwlkr> even on 8.0 i had vga issues had to go buy me a new vga back then
[03:49] <rafytafy> i never have issues
[03:50] <nightwlkr> it's just linux and SIS probably they r always in some kind of war :P
[03:54] <G-Off_> f
[03:57] <mercurial> wtf
[04:00] <nightwlkr> ok seems like these modules r already in the system .. modprobe 8139too but don't work
[04:00] <nightwlkr> must not b the correct module
[04:21] <nightwlkr> this is just not gonna work..am going to bed dissapointed
[04:22] <dan_> anyone here good with compiz?
[04:22] <nightwlkr> good night all
[04:23] <dan_> i'm wondering how to put a picture on the bottom side of my cube
[04:27] <dan_> can anyone help me?
[04:29] <dan_> anyone here?
[04:31] <dan_> anyone?
[04:32] <dan_> hello?
[04:38] <jsubl2> hi dan sorry i dont use compiz
[04:38] <maninder> i had a quick question i installed kubuntu
[04:38] <maninder> on my laptop but i cant control my brightness of my screen
[04:38] <maninder> is there any drivers for this
[04:39] <jsubl2> doesnt work on my toshiba either
[04:39] <maninder> so how do u fix
[04:39] <maninder> brightness
[04:39] <maninder> É
[04:40] <jsubl2> in power saving mode in does dim a little
[04:40] <maninder> settingsÉ
[04:41] <jsubl2> settings - advanced - power management ?
[04:42] <maninder> theres no
[04:42] <maninder> way i can actually
[04:42] <maninder> turn down brightness
[04:42] <maninder> cause its too bright
[04:43] <jsubl2> i dont know.
[04:43] <kankan_> hallo!! i have  just installed kubuntu..
[04:44] <kankan_> can anyone give me alink to know more about it and configure it properly??
[04:46] <dan_> anyone know how to add a picture to the bottom of desktop cube
[04:46] <kankan_> how toplay mp3 with amaroke??
[04:47] <dan_> i use Rythmbox Music Player
[04:48] <kankan_> how to install it??
[04:49] <Dragnslcr> !mp3 | kankan_
[04:54] <kankan_> thanks ubotto..
[04:54] <jsubl2> hes a bot
[04:54] <kankan_> how to enable dektop cube?
[04:54] <Morydd> if I set up my home network with static IP address manually with /etc/network/interfaces it seems that I cannot use the GUI network manager without a reboot and vice versa. However I cannot get the GUI to connect to my home network.
[04:55] <jsubl2> system settings - desktop - desktop effects
[04:56] <Morydd> any ideas how to resolve this?
[04:56] <dan_> how do i add an image to the bottom of desktop cube?
[04:56] <jsubl2> Morydd: it is normal for me to put eth0 in interfaces file. but i do not put wlan0 there.  that way network manager will manage it
[04:56] <jsubl2> and i only use eth0 at home
[04:56] <Morydd> jsubl2: eth0 is the wired connection on this machine
[04:58] <maninder> any body now how to replace fn kay with windows button so i can auto adjust
[04:58] <Morydd> I'm not sure if that's what you were referencing.
[04:59] <jsubl2> yeah eth0 is normally wired
[04:59] <jsubl2> unless you edit udev rules
[05:00] <Morydd> I don't use wired at home generally. (I do most of my work at the dining room table.
[05:01] <Morydd> but using static addressing at home/dhcp addressing away from home is a known issue?
[05:01] <dan_> how do you hadd an image to the bottom of desktop cube?
[05:01] <jsubl2> Morydd: might be possible.  i dont know
[05:08] <dan_> how do you add an image to the bottom of desktop cube?
[05:50] <gorgonzola> hello folks
[05:50] <gorgonzola> there's a problem in the kubuntu ppa
[05:50] <gorgonzola> amarok is broken
[05:50] <gorgonzola> amarok 2.2.0 depends on amarok-common 2.2.0, but the ppa is carrying 2.1.80
[05:51] <gorgonzola> but amarok-utils is 2.2.0
[05:51] <gorgonzola> so amarok is not installable, and reverting to 2.1.9 in the karmic repos fails too.
[06:08] <dwm_> hi
[06:52] <sira> hello]
[07:07] <stephen> Hi guys
[07:07] <stephen> Anyone here familiar with vmware?
[07:08] <Guest70826> Anyone here familiar with vmware?
[07:08] <Guest70826> ???
[07:12] <kankan_> how to run flv file with dragon player or amarok?
[07:12] <louis> Damn do i have a problem
[07:13] <louis> All my KDE 4.3 i cons shot to the left of my bottom panel and they will not allow me to drag em back right it just came out of no where any solutions or workarounds?
[07:13] <Guest70826> Kankan, louis you guys know vmware atall?
[07:13] <louis> Yes?
[07:14] <louis> I opt to go with http://www.virtualbox.org/
[07:14] <Guest70826> How do I install vm tools?
[07:15] <louis> I'd seriously just use Vbox
[07:15] <darkstar999> vbox ++
[07:15] <Guest70826> Ok ill look into it
[07:15] <louis> better and free in both openess and cost
[07:16] <louis> All my KDE 4.3 i cons shot to the left of my bottom panel and they will not allow me to drag em back right it just came out of no where any solutions or workarounds?
[07:16] <louis> Anyone had this problem?
[07:16] <darkstar999> gnome is so much better than kde
[07:18] <kankan_> .flv file run with dragon player
[07:27] <louis> try to convert it
[07:38] <kankan_> how to play .flv file with dragon player??
[08:49] <shrey> I want to Create a dial-up Connection in Kubuntu like in Windows to connect my Broadband..Pls help how to Create.i m a new user
[08:53] <Gintulis> how can i backup my root disk?
[08:55] <shrey> I want to Create a dial-up Connection in Kubuntu like in Windows to connect my Broadband..Pls help how to Create.i m a new user
[08:57] <Gintulis> pppoe
[08:57] <shrey> ya.i want a dial up to connect to my modem,ethernet
[08:59] <Gintulis> Applications -> Internet -> GPPP Internet Dial-up
[09:00] <shrey> there is nothing like GPPP in internet section
[09:00] <shrey> do i have to install it.
[09:00] <Gintulis> http://ubuntuliving.blogspot.com/2007/02/pppoe-with-ubuntu.html
[09:01] <Gintulis> just run:      sudo pppoeconf
[09:02] <HollowPoint> Gintulis: to backup your root disk do you mean sync it with something or just have a complete backup of everything including your OS to restore later?
[09:04] <Gintulis> HollowPoint, yes
[09:04] <HollowPoint> lol yes is not an answer to a question with two possibilities, which one?
[09:05] <Gintulis> i want to make hdd (root) image
[09:05] <HollowPoint> clonezilla is your best bet
[09:06] <HollowPoint> fantastic live CD, put it in your CD ROM, boot up, have a USB/Firewire disk handy or an empty/large disk with enough space in your machine already, then run the tools on screen to backup your entire volume as an image, which can later be restored to a disk with the same live CD
[09:52] <yooooo> server irc.ciudad.com.ar
[10:09] <Ev0luti0n_> hello folks
[10:22] <N0LLY> hi evolution
[10:40] <ubunoob> Hi, so I recently moved to kubuntu. Every single time I login there are widgets randomly placed around the screen. I manually deselect them all the time. (This is my 9th reboot and the system monitor widget and other widgets show up behind the folder view widget). Is there a way to not make this happen on startup. (NOTE: I disabled the widgets but still shows up).
[10:41] <ubunoob> Anyone?
[10:43] <ubunoob> Could someone atleast tell me how I can completely disable widgets??
[10:53] <HollowPoint> are you still around ubunoob?
[10:53] <ubunoob> yes HollowPoint
[10:54] <HollowPoint> so you're running Kubuntu 9.04 I guess? and KDE 4.2 or 4.3?
[10:54] <ubunoob> yeah HollowPoint
[10:55] <HollowPoint> which KDE version are you using? Did you upgrade to 4.3 or still using default 4.2?
[10:58] <ubunoob> HollowPoint: Not sure... How do I know which one I'm using? Is there a command for it?
[10:58] <HollowPoint> if you're not sure then you're still using KDE4.2
[10:58] <HollowPoint> it's not an automatic upgrade
[10:59] <HollowPoint> I recommend you follow this easy 3 - 4 step tutorial to upgrade to 4.3.1 see if that cures the widget problem as I had trouble with them being flakey in 4.2 but they're solid in 4.3.1 http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.1
[11:06] <n1kolajke> hi
[11:07] <mfraz74> hi
[11:08] <n1kolajke>  а по-русски тут ктонить говорит? :)
[11:12] <n1kolajke> люди ну напишите ченить еп
[11:15] <n1kolajke> who know a russian language?
[11:31] <shrey> Kubuntu is not detecting my Wi-fi network..Pls Help after PPPoeconf
[11:32] <ubunoob> HollowPoint: Sorry, my wireless dropped earlier and got disconnected. Anyway, seems like mine's updated.
[11:32] <HollowPoint> I recommend you follow this easy 3 - 4 step tutorial to upgrade to 4.3.1 see if that cures the widget problem as I had trouble with them being flakey in 4.2 but they're solid in 4.3.1 http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.1
[11:33] <HollowPoint> doubt it'll be 4.3 if you haven't manually done it, it's not an automated update
[11:33] <ubunoob> HollowPoint: It's updated to 4.3.1
[11:33] <shrey> Pls help..after i used command pppoeconf my wifi is not detected.
[11:34] <HollowPoint> then use the cashew in the top right of your desktop to unlock widgets, then to add widgets, then find the ones you don't want and click the star next to their names, that should disable them, then use the cashew again to lock the widgets again.
[11:36] <shrey> Pls help..after i used command pppoeconf my wifi is not detected?
[11:39] <LexR> hey guys, anyone knows how to make gnome apps (synaptic) use kde decoration in kde4 on kubuntu 9.04???
[11:43] <shrey> Pls help..after i used command pppoeconf my wifi is not detected?
[11:49] <hmsnb127> galtom_: RU from nowota 4a?
[12:21] <reynaldo> hola
[12:32] <hanshenrik> i need a shell-script to check if /dev/sda0 is mounted or not, how can i do that?
[12:34] <robin0800_> hanshenrik: try mount
[13:13] <Rovanion> I'm running the beta of kubuntu 9.10 and well. The update mananger doesn't ask for permissions when it's going to update so it's not allowed to update.
[13:13] <Rovanion> What do I do?
[13:15] <Rovanion> One of the 254 in here must know something that simple
[13:15] <Rovanion> Come on, it's not hard. Just type out the name of the package updater that I can launch it from a terminal
[13:16] <Rovanion> Come on! Someone must be watching this channel
[13:17] <Mamarok> Rovanion: read the topic of this channel: Karmic questions should go to #ubuntu+1 exclusively
[13:18] <Rovanion> thank you. I went to #linuxmint at spotchat and they could tell me that I could usesudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[13:18] <Rovanion> Not to complain or anything
[13:27] <hannibal79> how can i see the process that starts at boot?
[13:37] <reynaldo> hola
[13:40] <reynaldo> hola
[14:06] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[14:22] <A^EKCAHDP> !help
[14:23] <A^EKCAHDP> where I can to make my questions on the Russian?
[14:24] <LjL> !ru
[14:31] <varanus> guys i got a little disturbing problem. from when i've updated kde4.2 to kde 4.3 everytime i boot composite is off and i have to press alt+shift+F12 to start it. anyone know what could be the problem?
[15:09] <zmile> wew
[15:09] <zmile> any body..?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> !ask | zmile
[15:10] <zmile> hii
[15:11] <BluesKaj> hi, question zmile ?
[15:11] <zmile> no
[15:11] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:23] <Guest99970> Hello
[15:35] <hanshenrik> for some reason... i got php.ini in /etc/php5/apache2  and /etc/php5/cli, umm... witch 1 does my apache2 install use?
[15:38] <hanshenrik> for some reason... i got php.ini in /etc/php5/apache2  and /etc/php5/cli, umm... witch 1 does my apache2 install use?  (and sorry for double-posting, got disconnected from freenode for some reason)
[16:19] <mluser-home> Anyone know which package I need to install to get pdf previews in konqueror?
[16:29] <BluesKaj> mluser-home, use okular doc viewer or you could install acroread
[16:33] <mluser-home> BluesKaj: will that give me pdf previews in konqueror?
[16:34] <mluser-home> I have Okular installed.. I'm just not getting pdf previews in konqueror atm.  I dont have all of kde installed, just konqueror and a few other kde applications.
[16:35] <maninder> how do i change brightness level for my toshiba laptop
[16:35] <maninder> ÉÉ
[16:42] <BluesKaj> mluser-home, do you need to use konqueror to read the pdf file for some reason , if not I recommend you install acrobat reader for linux:  http://www.savewealth.com/support/acrobat/linux/
[16:47] <mluser-home> BluesKaj: never mind.. I found the missing package.. I need kdegraphics in order to get pdf thumbnails in konqueror.. thanks for you help
[16:48] <subito> if i want soundfonts for qsynth, what do i download? apt-cache search soundfonts gives me 'genpo'
[16:50] <LjL> !info freepats | subito
[16:50] <LjL> !info fluid-soundfont-gm | subito
[16:54] <subito> LjL: what's the difference between fluid-soundfont-gm and fluid-soundfont?
[16:54] <LjL> subito: i don't know, i don't have the latter on Hardy
[16:56] <subito> LjL: i'm on 9.04 but fluid-soundfont "has no installation candidate" and fluid-soundfont-gm wants 150MB of archives
[16:58] <LjL> subito: soundfonts are often not small.
[16:58] <subito> ok so go for fluid-soundfont-gm
[16:59] <subito> LjL: but i'm surprised that qsynth doesn't have anyfont of its own by default
[17:02] <subito> sorry disconnected
[17:02] <subito> LjL: but i'm surprised that qsynth doesn't have anyfont of its own by default
[17:02] <rafytafy> how is the beta 9.10 doing guy?
[17:02] <rafytafy> guys*
[17:07] <maninder> how do i fix the god damn brightness
[17:07] <maninder> no one here nows
[17:15] <subito> then how do i  set these soundfonts for qsynth? because for now qsynth does not output any sound
[17:18] <JJman6> are there any good apps for doing remote desktop sharing (not remote control per say)  from windows to Kubuntu & vice versa?
[17:20] <subito> what do i have to set for i fontsound directory (for qsynth) once i've downloaded fluid-soundfont-gm?
[17:20] <dthacker> In kmail, where can I change preference for opening a program when clicking a link?
[17:26] <subito> LjL: how can i use fluid-soundfont-gm then?
[17:28] <Hellmark[S10e]> hey, I'm having a problem where plasma-desktop is crashing a couple seconds after starting.
[17:31] <maninder> yo no ones here to help
[17:31] <maninder> this kubuntu experience
[17:31] <mm_202> Has anyone gotten Amarok 2.2 to work with 9.04 without going thru dependency-hell?
[17:31] <maninder> kinda sucks
[17:32] <maninder> mine works
[17:32] <maninder> i got
[17:32] <maninder> new kubunti 9.04
[17:32] <maninder> i play songs and it works perfectly fine
[17:34] <Hellmark[S10e]> maninder, well, forums tend to be better.
[17:35] <Hellmark[S10e]> support IRC channels suck in general.
[17:35] <maninder> well i just wanted a quick answer like
[17:35] <maninder> is there a way to adust brightness on toshiba laptop
[17:35] <maninder> cause fn key doesnt work
[17:37] <Hellmark[S10e]> maninder, you should be able to adjust brightness through the power settings
[17:38] <Hellmark[S10e]> in each of the power profiles, will be options for screen brightness.
[17:39] <subito> is fluid-soundfont-gm only for one kind of sound?
[17:42] <Hellmark[S10e]> brb
[17:44] <dartagnan> xcknv k
[17:44] <dartagnan> nvbk.jdnvk.nv.
[17:46] <dartagnan> sdfghjkl;
[17:50] <dartagnan> where can we download wallpapers safely?
[18:18] <mebius> русские есть?
[18:18] <Unksi> !ru
[18:19] <mebius> Ru!!!
[18:20] <harjot> !ru | mebius
[18:20] <Mamarok> Jared555: I think one time is enough
[18:23] <Unksi> there might be #ubuntu-ua for ukraine too
[18:25] <fabri> ...
[18:25] <fabri> greetings
[18:31] <sfcmouse> hello   wondering if anyone can help me
[18:32] <sfcmouse> i seem to have lost my instant messaging program kopete and cant add it back to my system
[18:53] <raw__> hi
[18:57] <dartagnan> ok
[18:58] <dartagnan> no jockey
[19:19] <slow-motion> hi
[19:45] <davhere> is there still a way to get the 8.04 cd?
[19:52] <evie> hi guys, how do i update from kubuntu 7.04 to a later version? i'm trying to use adept manager but it tells me there is nothing that needs upgrading!
[19:52] <cinex> evie: suo-apt-get dist-upgrate
[19:52] <cinex> i think
[19:52] <evie> thanks, i'll try that
[19:52] <cinex> upgrade not upgrate
[20:08] <Rasmus> Hii, snybody there who could help me??
[20:08] <Rasmus> Ive got a problem...
[20:09] <Rasmus> I am trying to play an dvd in VLC player but it doesent work it are kind of unavaible to read it. Hrlp me!!!
[20:13] <Rasmus> I am trying to play an dvd in VLC player but it doesent work it are kind of unavaible to read it. Hrlp me!!!
[20:13] <Rasmus> I am trying to play an dvd in VLC player but it doesent work it are kind of unavaible to read it. Hrlp me!!!
[20:13] <FloodBotK2> Rasmus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:14] <Rasmus> I am trying to play an dvd in VLC player but it doesent work it are kind of unavaible to read it. Hrlp me!!!
[20:40] <Guest51592> Hello! I've some audio-problems with VLC. While the Dragon Player plays audio VLC doesn't. How to convince VLC to play audio as well?
[21:21] <slow-motion> n8
[21:56] <Warrior85> ciao a tutti
[21:56] <LjL> !it
[21:57] <Warrior85> ok
[21:58] <dan____> some of my animations on compiz disappeared?
[22:13] <yang_> Hey, Is anybody here familir with bind9 and dns?
[22:36] <NetSKaVeN> hell-o!
[22:46] <dartagnan> yes
[22:46] <dartagnan> Oz
[22:55] <dan____> some of my animations on compiz disappeared?
[23:16] <leumas> hi all
[23:40] <dan____> some of my animations on compiz disappeared?
[23:41] <dartagnan> how come I woke up with this idea in mind?
[23:41] <dartagnan> I think it flashed my mind when I was going to sleep last night
[23:46] <pugachevcobra> is the updated network management plasmoid in 9.04 connecting to hidden wlans?


[00:49] <marlonbrando78> Can anyone help with a sound issue i am having
[05:26] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[05:29] <superfly> morning Kilos
[05:29] <superfly> yawn
[05:29] <superfly> need more sleep
[05:29] <Kilos> ai!
[05:29] <Kilos> you and family well superfly ?
[05:31] <superfly> yup. we're going to visit my boet in George this weekend
[05:31] <Kilos> great give him my regards please
[05:31] <superfly> it's just been a long weekend
[05:31] <superfly> will do
[05:32] <Kilos> you are supposed to rest weekends
[05:32] <superfly> heh. I rest at work
[05:32] <Kilos> haha
[05:33] <superfly> Kilos: how are your girls? I haven't heard you mention anything from them in a while
[05:34] <Kilos> they are ok ty superfly debs suffering with that ankylosing spondilitus and had to stop work
[05:34] <superfly> Eish
[05:35] <Kilos> luckily govt pays her and pays tara to look after her
[05:35] <superfly> can't she get a government grant? Australia is also quite socialist like the UK, isn't it?
[05:35] <superfly> ah
[05:35] <superfly> awesome
[05:35] <Kilos> she has times when it flares up that she can get up unaided and gone cripple in one leg
[05:36] <superfly> :-(
[05:36] <Kilos> otherwise life goes on
[05:36] <Kilos> yeah sad
[05:38] <superfly> I am blessed.  They replaced phonon with QtMultiMedia, which is part of qt-mobility, but because of some support issues and coders disappearing, it only half works. This means that QtWebkit only works partially for HTML5
[06:01] <Trixar_za> Supposably, it's done better in PyQt than PySide, so I'm giving the prior a chance
[06:01] <Kilos> whew
[06:02] <Trixar_za> It's also just a windows issue, I think Linux and MacOs still use phonon
[06:05] <Kilos> so can you fix it Trixar_za ?
[06:05] <Kilos> for yourself anyway
[06:05] <Kilos> hi Xethron
[06:06] <Trixar_za> Maybe, but it may require two recompiles - first Qt without QtWebkit and then Qt with QtWebkit going off the one blog I read... and then it's down to having the right codecs on the target systems
[06:06] <Kilos> ai!
[06:09] <nuvolari> oh hi Trixar_za
[06:09] <nuvolari> lol, oom Kilos, hierdie is soos 'n magic black box, 'n mens gee input, skommel dit rond, gooi uit en kyk wat die result is
[06:10] <Kilos> haha
[06:10] <nuvolari> wel, dit is hoe ek dit sien... nog nie 'n reproducable recipe gekry nie :P
[06:18] <kbmonkey> hello
[06:18] <Kilos> ohi kbmonkey
[06:18] <Kilos> nice to see you here onna weekday
[06:20] <kbmonkey> yes it is a party
[06:20] <Kilos> haha
[06:21] <nuvolari> o/ hello's kbmonkey
[06:22] <kbmonkey> hello nuvolari
[06:22] <kbmonkey> \0/
[06:37] <Symmetria> sup
[06:37] <Kilos> hi Symmetria
[06:38] <Symmetria> heh tdk recons they gonna have 20TB disks out by 2020
[06:38] <Kilos> wow
[06:38] <Symmetria> seagate already demonstrated that they can do a 6 or 8 terabyte drive right now but its not yet commercially viable
[06:38] <Symmetria> (thats 20TB 2.5" drive, they recon they can do a 60TB 3.5" drive)
[06:39] <Kilos> normal drive or ssd?
[06:40] <Symmetria> they are HAMR drives, which is kinda like, a normal drive in terms of how it reads but they changed how it writes
[06:40] <Symmetria> HAMR = heat assisted magnetic recording
[06:41] <Kilos> oh but still moving platters
[06:41] <Symmetria> basically allows them to record data using a combination of magnetics and lasers on 12.7nm segments
[06:41] <Symmetria> yeah, though will be interesting to see how ssd tech develops
[06:41] <Kilos> where will it end
[06:41] <Kilos> tech advancing too fast
[06:42] <Symmetria> people been talking about 3D holographic devices for *years* but nothing has ever really come of that
[06:43]  * Symmetria is trying to read up about dnssec
[06:43] <Symmetria> never read a paper on it and know less than nothing about it
[06:46] <Kilos> life is a permanent learning curve
[06:48] <kbmonkey> how goes it Kilos
[06:48] <kbmonkey> oh hai maiatoday
[06:48] <kbmonkey> and hello Symmetria
[06:48] <Kilos> good ty kbmonkey and you?
[06:48] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday
[06:48] <Kilos> put router timeouts on hold
[06:49] <kbmonkey> you know Kilos, ever had a Monday which felt better than the weekend?
[06:49] <Kilos> lol thats good
[06:50] <kbmonkey> well I have not. lol.
[06:50] <Kilos> not even today?
[06:50] <Kilos> dont you like parties
[06:51] <maiatoday> hi kbmonkey Kilos
[06:55] <kbmonkey> what parties Kilos ? tell me I am curious ... *)
[06:55] <Kilos> kbmonkey> yes it is a party
[06:56] <kbmonkey> oh yes, Monday parties. sorry I thought there was another party happening, hehe.
[06:56] <Kilos> hehe
[06:56] <kbmonkey> preparing for morning meetings, catch you later my friends
[06:57] <Kilos> enjoy
[06:57] <Squirm> morning
[06:57] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[06:57] <Kilos> hows you today?
[06:58] <Squirm> tired
[06:58] <Squirm> but had a fairly decent weekend
[06:58] <Kilos> oh so nothing new then
[06:58] <Squirm> yourself?
[06:58] <Symmetria> *HRM*
[06:58] <Symmetria> dnssec is odd
[06:58] <Kilos> im good ty
[06:59] <Kilos> trying to understand whay that bot wont auto identify with freenode
[06:59] <Kilos> so it can be masked
[07:02] <Kilos> Maaz, ibid channel
[07:02] <Maaz> irc://autumn.cpt.za.atrum.org
[07:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning peeps
[07:25] <kbmonkey> morning ThatGraemeGuy
[07:26] <kbmonkey> hello zeref
[07:26] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[07:26] <Kilos> hi zeref
[07:28] <Symmetria> *sigh*
[07:29] <Symmetria> MTN is so screwed up
[07:29] <Symmetria> I've been trying for a week to get someone at head office on the phone
[07:36] <Kilos> thats why most of us went to 8ta
[07:37] <Symmetria> lol kilos, the funny thing is, Im not even trying to get support outta them, Im trying to get through to their *executive* for things that have serious impact on their own business
[07:37] <Symmetria> and I cant even get through to the head office reception
[07:37] <Symmetria> ;p
[07:38] <Kilos> find their ceo and tweet him
[07:38] <Kilos> most of them peeps tweet
[07:38] <Kilos> thats how i got voda and 8ta help here
[07:39] <Kilos> or email the ceo
[07:40] <Symmetria> lol Im gonna start tweeting at their CTO just now ;p
[07:40] <Kilos> hehe
[07:41] <Kilos> thats the only good thing i find about twitter
[07:41] <Kilos> they can hide and have to answer otherwise other peeps see they are slack
[07:42] <kbmonkey> you tweet kilos?
[07:42] <Kilos> sometimes
[07:43] <kbmonkey> you are more tech savvy than I am!
[07:43] <Kilos> sharpeys and i do the ubuntuza tweet
[07:43] <Kilos> no man its horrible
[07:43] <kbmonkey> lol, I agree
[07:43] <kbmonkey> ;)
[07:43] <Kilos> the pro made me do it or said i wont be welcome here anymore
[07:43] <kbmonkey> very good of you though, very good
[07:44] <Kilos> help a whip over me
[07:44] <kbmonkey> pah, that was an empty threat man ;)
[07:44] <Kilos> haha
[07:44] <kbmonkey> it was a cheap chirp, if I may be so daring
[07:45] <Kilos> but twitter messed up. most clients dont work there anymore
[07:45] <Kilos> now he hides, scared hell have to work
[07:45]  * Kilos waits for ai!
[07:45] <kbmonkey> ai!
[07:46] <kbmonkey> oh well that is a pity to hear about the clients being broken.
[07:46] <Kilos> thats his way of showing
[07:46] <Kilos> um
[07:46] <Kilos> er
[07:46] <Kilos> disdain
[07:46] <Kilos> ya twitter blocks them the swines
[07:47] <Kilos> but birdie and choqok work
[07:47] <Kilos> the new choqok
[07:48] <kbmonkey> are the clients blocked by accident or on purpose?
[07:48] <Kilos> looks like on purpose
[07:49] <Kilos> blocked pidgin twitter even
[07:49] <kbmonkey> twats
[07:49] <Kilos> yeah
[07:49] <kbmonkey> lol
[07:49] <kbmonkey> we should create twatter
[07:49] <Kilos> hehe
[07:49] <Kilos> where you gonna host it
[07:50] <Kilos> dont tell me that vm stuff, i get lost
[07:51] <kbmonkey> nah, dont care much for micro blogging. my heart is not in it. sorry man.
[07:51] <Kilos> hehe np i hardly go there anyway
[07:53] <Kilos> wow 40 nicks on a monday morning
[07:53] <Kilos> normally need flamewars or meetings to get there
[07:59] <kbmonkey> 40 nicks? what do you mean Kilos ?
[07:59] <kbmonkey> 40 nicks in this channel?
[07:59] <Kilos> peeps connected here
[08:00] <Kilos> ya
[08:00] <Kilos> only 5 showing away
[08:01] <kbmonkey> do you think any of them even know they are on irc in this channel?
[08:03] <Kilos> ya most are lurkers
[08:04] <Kilos> and blaze is at school
[08:05] <Kilos> dunno what happened to Banlam and bakuman , they online but never say anything
[08:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> i haven't seen half of these people say anything, ever!
[08:15] <Kilos> they used to chat and help. dunno what happened
[08:15] <Kilos> hi psyatw
[08:16] <psyatw> HI Kilos
[08:16] <psyatw> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[08:16] <psyatw> had caps lock switched on there ...
[08:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo :-)
[08:27] <Kilos> np psyatw
[08:38] <kbmonkey> they probably auto connect to a hundred channels and forget about them :p
[08:39] <Kilos> lol
[08:39] <Kilos> Banlam, ping
[08:39] <Kilos> lewe jy nog?
[08:49] <maiatoday> I just  had an impromptu chat with a colleague at work and we are going to try an impromput release party in stellenbosch next weekend 26 Sept 11:00 am at Ginos, I'll post in the necessary places, everybody welcome. I'll just bring a usb disk with isos if people want to get the release.
[08:51] <Kilos> good for you maiatoday everything has gone queit with the changes in releases
[08:51] <Kilos> quiet
[08:54] <maiatoday> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-za/2598-saucy-salamander-ubuntu-1310-release-party/
[08:55] <Kilos> whats the next one terrible turtle
[09:42] <Kilos> aha its the e220 modem timing out not my router
[09:44] <Kilos> back to the drawing board
[10:07] <mazal> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-za/2598-saucy-salamander-ubuntu-1310-release-party/
[10:07] <mazal> Ag sorry , see it's just been posted already :P
[10:11] <Symmetria> LOL
[10:11] <Symmetria> look at this
[10:11] <Symmetria> http://www.alstonnetworks.net/open.access.png
[10:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> heh
[10:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> brought to you by Irony Inc.
[10:36] <Kilos> Trixar_za, shout when you come back
[10:36] <Kilos> i would like to know if one can use sakis3g to get into a e220 to disable timeouts
[10:37] <Kilos> the timeout settings must be somewhere in the thing right?
[10:45] <Kilos> Symmetria, whats with afrinic? just got a mail again.  I am, and have always been an osx fan ;p
[18:19] <Kilos> no man for office and hotel and other use too
[18:19] <Kilos> grrr
[18:19] <Symmetria> no one will convince me that ubuntu makes a better desktop than osx ;p
[18:20] <Kilos> i havent seen it yet
[18:20] <Symmetria> never worked on an apple?
[18:20] <Kilos> is that the mac stuff
[18:20] <Kilos> never seen one even
[18:20] <Symmetria> yeah osx is apple
[18:20] <Symmetria> dude, go to an istore, and play with an osx based machine
[18:21] <Kilos> i dont travel anywhere
[18:21] <Symmetria> it is smooth, beautiful, pretty, stable, and can do everything a linux box can do ;p
[18:21] <Kilos> sigh
[18:22] <Symmetria> sorry to say it, but I still believe that opensource geeks have no clue how to design a decent user interface for some whack reason ;p
[18:22] <Symmetria> their backend shit is awesome
[18:22] <Symmetria> but the GUI's? ugh :)
[18:23] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:23] <nlsthzn> itunes.... hmmm.... tasty
[18:23] <Kilos> i rather like the old unity and kde
[18:23] <Symmetria> heh the last decent GUI I saw on a *nix based system that wasnt osx
[18:23] <Symmetria> was on IRIX
[18:23] <Symmetria> ;p irix was awesomeness, 3D GUI ftw
[18:24] <Kilos> oh well just keep pushing ubuntu servers then
[18:24] <Kilos> thats better than nothing
[18:24] <Symmetria> so long as they are best suited for the purpose I'm using em for, I will :)
[18:25] <Kilos> hehe
[18:25] <Symmetria> (there is one particular server application I won't push ubuntu for)
[18:25] <Symmetria> ;p and I'll get hated for saying this
[18:25] <Kilos> so when can we expect the new mirror Symmetria ?
[18:25] <Kilos> say it
[18:25] <Symmetria> kilos waiting for budget signature
[18:26] <Symmetria> new mirror = 60 thousand dollars worth of hardware
[18:26] <Symmetria> need a second signature
[18:26] <Kilos> whew
[18:26] <Symmetria> lol kilos, microsoft exchange
[18:26] <Kilos> in timeless africa
[18:26] <Symmetria> for business purposes, in terms of task integration, calender integration, mail integration and as an overall package for all that stuff
[18:26] <Kilos> eish
[18:27] <Symmetria> there is nothing out there that provides the same level of seemless integration and functionality
[18:27] <Symmetria> it just doesnt exist, if it did, I'd use it
[18:27] <Symmetria> but I have a simple rule, I will not sacrifice functionality and efficiency for operating system religion :)
[18:27] <Kilos> im sure the dev guys will work on things like that so keep your eyes open
[18:27] <Symmetria> kilos *shrug* when they get it right, I'll be open to it
[18:28] <Kilos> they will
[18:28] <Symmetria> but Ive waited a long time and there have been many attempts and nothing has worked so far :)
[18:28] <Kilos> just be patient
[18:28] <Symmetria> look at novell groupwise ;p
[18:28] <Symmetria> that runs under linux
[18:28] <Symmetria> its fuckin aweful :)
[18:28] <Symmetria> anyway brb, I gotta go fetch a harddrive quick
[18:28] <Kilos> ok
[18:34] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight. have a good shift nlsthzn
[18:34] <nlsthzn> thanks uncle Kilos
[18:34] <nlsthzn> sleep tight
[18:34] <Kilos> see ya morrow
[18:34] <Kilos> ty
[18:34] <inetpro> Kilos: pong
[18:34] <Kilos> ah
[18:34] <Kilos> the swine
[18:34] <inetpro> uh?
[18:35] <Kilos> naand boetie
[18:35] <inetpro> Kilos: ai!
[18:35] <Kilos> jy moenie so skaars wees nie
[18:35] <Kilos> haha
[18:35]  * inetpro is nie skaars nie
[18:35] <Kilos> wat maak jy of jy so kwaai besig is inetpro ?
[18:35] <inetpro> onkruid vergaan nie so maklik nie
[18:36] <inetpro> Kilos: besig, hoekom?
[18:36] <Kilos> ja man maar jy is besig om n ernstige lurker te word
[18:36] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:37] <Kilos> ek wou net se jy moenie so skaars wees nie
[18:37] <inetpro> ah
[18:37] <Kilos> anders gaan ons maar aan
[18:37] <inetpro> julle moet in elk geval aangaan
[18:37] <Kilos> ja met die hoop dat jy een of ander tyd sal opdaag
[18:38] <inetpro> sal maar moet sien hoe ek meer tyd hier kan spandeer, maar dink nie dit sal vinnig gebeur nie
[18:38] <Kilos> al work and no play makes jack a dull boy
[18:38] <inetpro> ai!
[18:39] <Kilos> ok nou kan ons gaan slaap
[18:39] <inetpro> jammer oom!
[18:39] <Kilos> never mind ek sal jou terug kry
[18:39] <inetpro> goeie nag oom :-)
[18:39] <Kilos> lekker slaap julle ook
[18:40] <nlsthzn> :)
[18:40] <inetpro> nlsthzn: howzit
[18:40] <nlsthzn> hey inetpro ... not to shabby and yourself?
[18:41] <inetpro> all good thanks
[18:41] <inetpro> no reason to complain
[18:41] <superfly> hi inetpro, nlsthzn
[18:41] <nlsthzn> sweet :) I never complain as nobody ever listens
[18:41] <inetpro> hello superfly
[18:41] <nlsthzn> hiya superfly ... long time :)
[18:42] <superfly> yeah, I don't get much time in front of the keyboard these days
[18:43] <nlsthzn> it happens
[18:43] <nlsthzn> gui's via ssh is so slow .... zzzzz
[18:43] <inetpro> superfly: you still ride the train?
[18:43]  * nlsthzn was running firefox from home @ work :p
[18:43] <superfly> yup
[18:44] <nlsthzn> I am going to log out a bit and give some other chaps a chance on the PC...
[18:44] <nlsthzn> hope you all have a good night :)
[18:45] <inetpro> superfly: I thought by now you must have gotten a promotion and with that a nice new sporty vehicle
[18:45] <superfly> inetpro: heh.
[18:45] <superfly> wishfuil thinking
[18:45] <inetpro> :-)
[18:46] <superfly> inetpro: it's not the car, it's the petrol
[18:46] <superfly> even riding the Gautrain would be about a third of the price of petrol spent getting to work in a month
[18:47] <superfly> and that doesn't include the cost of wear and tear on the car
[18:47] <inetpro> hmm... you think it's that much of a difference?
[18:49] <superfly> it costs me R290 per month for a first class monthly ticket to Cape Town from Muizenberg
[18:49] <inetpro> how many km?
[18:49] <superfly> it would cost me R3000+ per month in petrol and wear and tear on the car (not to mention parking at upwards of R70 per day)
[18:50] <inetpro> wow!
[18:51] <inetpro> in that case you made a very good choice to use the train
[18:51] <inetpro> superfly: but tell me is there no way that you can rather work from home?
[18:52] <superfly> no, and I don't want to either
[18:52] <superfly> I have two small children, I wouldn't get any work done.
[18:52] <superfly> Why do you think I'm hardly in front of the PC at night?
[18:52] <superfly> I have to run after the kids
[18:53] <inetpro> good point
[18:54] <inetpro> but with a bit of planning you could always build yourself a isolation chamber at home :-)
[18:56] <inetpro> anyway, I'm just twisting my mind around the issue a bit
[18:57] <inetpro> more and more people seem to be able to pull it off these days
[18:58] <superfly> inetpro: we also do pair programming at work
[18:58] <inetpro> ahh, nice!
[19:11] <Symmetria> so, who's gonna be learning delphi to teach to the school kids ;p
[19:11]  * Symmetria is amused
[19:19]  * superfly knows Delphi, but isn't a teacher
[19:19]  * Tonberry does not know Deplhi and is also not a teacher.
[19:20]  * inetpro wonders how many teachers actually know Delphi
[19:25] <Symmetria> lol
[19:25] <Symmetria> I could probably still write delphi code if I tried
[19:25] <Symmetria> I wrote a lot of very very evil shit in pascal back in the day
[19:25] <Symmetria> ;p the school was forever wondering why stuff on their computers kept breaking badly
[19:25] <Symmetria> my tsr's were evil


 hello!!! someone has problems with qterminal?, does not open
 @N0um3n0 [hello!!! someone has problems with qterminal?, does not open], On daily? Yes known issue
 @HMollerCl [On daily? Yes known issue], after a update in a installed 19.04
 Mmm could be @tsimonq2 @kc2bez ?
 Yep
 Known issue
 ok, thanks ;)
[11:10] <emmejd> Hello
[11:11] <emmejd> How do i get my wifi to automatically  work  at  each boot? I need to reinsert my wifi stick every time
[11:17] <emmejd> lol im playing a nice game on a 13 year old PC
[11:17] <emmejd> Just wish linux had more centrality so that wifi worked without reinserting the wifi stick on all distros
[11:21] <emmejd> and it seems to even be capped to 30fps
 1904 Qterminal issue solved! Thanks! 😊
[13:54] <linuxg> hi
[13:55] <linuxg> Someone can help me? i've erased my task bar
[13:55] <linuxg> how can i restart it by default
[13:56] <linuxg> ?
 @linuxg [<linuxg> Someone can help me? i've erased my task bar], wich version of Lubuntu are you using?


  You?
[18:29] <wrst> netritious: have a good wekeend
[18:29] <wrst> oh and Unit193 ^^ ?
[18:29] <Unit193> wrst: More than good, yourself?
[18:30] <wrst> pretty good
[18:30] <netritious> Unit193: listening to some AC/DC on shuffle
[18:30] <wrst> back at work...
[18:30] <netritious> wrst
[18:31] <netritious> wrst: it was great
[18:32] <wrst> I would like to do it again this weekend :)
[18:32] <netritious> that would just be to much fun
[18:33] <wrst> ha ha I would like to try and see :)
[18:33] <netritious> :)
[18:40] <netritious> wow SSDs have gotten cheap(er)
[18:41]  * wrst wishes netritious had not brought that to his attention
[18:42] <netritious> around the $0.50 per gigabyte
[18:45] <wrst> getting much much better
[18:45] <wrst> I'm guessing eventually that will be the way even for large storage solutions?
[18:47] <netritious> SSD? IDK. I don't think mechanical HDDs are going anywhere soon
[18:49] <netritious> I guess it just depends on who is in charge of the IT budget
[18:49] <netritious> how much stoarge do you need versus how much money can you spend
[18:55] <netritious> wrst are you looking to upgrade?
[18:58] <wrst> netritious: no I'm not I have a SSD in my laptop and a spinner for storage
[18:58] <wrst> but more speed is always better :)
[18:58] <netritious> ah I'm upgrading my laptop from spinner to ssd
[18:59] <wrst> I replaced the optical drive with the old 640GB spinner and put a 120GB SSD in place of the spinner
[18:59] <wrst> so the optical drive is out for me
[19:00] <netritious> only SATAII on my laptop interface and drive is SATAIII, but whatever...beats spinner any day
[19:00] <netritious> that's a cool setup wrst
[19:00] <wrst> on an older laptop but works well
[19:00] <netritious> hm wonder if I can do that
[19:00] <wrst> I'm sata II also
[19:01] <wrst> they sale those adpaters as long as it is a SATA optical drive
[19:02] <netritious> mine isn't new... refurb Dell E6410 but I like it
[19:02] <wrst> mine is a $499 special asus from about 3 or 4 years ago :)
[19:02] <wrst> I'm really thinking I might go with a macbook next time
[19:03] <netritious> all my laptops were older than that. sold or gave them away and now have 3x E6410 for <$800
[19:04] <wrst> nice, I'm not seeing enough advances really that warrants buying tcomputer parts very often
[19:05] <netritious> I am once again, after a fifteen year hiatus, trying to move my desktop to a notebook :S
[19:06] <wrst> ha ha
[19:06] <wrst> I have no desktop any more
[19:06] <wrst> well I have my old desktop running freenas
[19:08] <netritious> I'm just tired of being tied to my desk, but I think the laptop with some upgrades will do ok as a replacement.
[19:11] <netritious> will also end up with spare parts for the other two laptops, and if my laptop dies, I can just move my ram and HDD.. unless it's the RAM or HDD that dies lol
[19:13] <netritious> with any luck this will be here today...  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148821
[19:15] <netritious> this is what sold me.... power consumption when active? 0.15W
[19:16] <wrst> sweet
[19:16] <wrst> very nice
[19:17] <netritious> that and upgrading ram to 8GB, and will try to install qubes first. will see what happens from there.
[19:18] <wrst> I'm running 8GB of ram but a much smaller ssd but its very nice
[19:18] <netritious> I like VM's, and a healthy dose of snapshots...on my desktop with 256GB SSD it's fast, but to small
[19:26] <netritious> speak of the angel... http://imgur.com/uW1RUzO
[19:27] <wrst> sweet
[19:27] <wrst> very nice
[19:28]  * wrst suspects netritious is about to leave for a while
[19:52] <netritious> running system diag now
[20:03] <wrst> sweet
[22:37] <netritious> bbl


[06:29] <Sarvatt> yay for buying vmware fusion 4 on black friday for $20 :) finally got around to updating, time to work out packaging of libxatracker
[06:30] <Sarvatt> and see if it actually works yet unlike st/xorg svga in 7.11
[06:31] <Prf_Jakob> should work
[06:32] <Prf_Jakob> as long as you build xf86-video-vmware from the xa_branch
[06:32] <Sarvatt> vmwgfx_branch?
[06:32] <Prf_Jakob> right
[06:32] <Sarvatt> ok just making sure im on the right branch
[06:33] <Sarvatt> of course that doesnt work on xserver 1.11
[06:33]  * Sarvatt does a bunch of cherry-picks
[06:34] <broder> wait, does this get you opengl in vmware vms?
[06:34] <Prf_Jakob> yes
[06:34] <broder> oooooh
[06:34] <Sarvatt> yup
[07:13] <Sarvatt> bryceh: what system is crashy on precise?
[07:14] <Sarvatt> bryceh: i'm guessing you're hitting https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/linux/+bug/903654 too
[07:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 903654 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) (and 1 other project) "[i915] x200s locks up hard about once an hour (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [High,Confirmed]
[08:18] <bryceh> Sarvatt:
[08:18] <bryceh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/905505
[08:18] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 905505 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Page fault in drm while using Unity's software center overlay (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New]
[08:18] <bryceh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/905597
[08:18] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 905597 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) " BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 00000048 while plugging / unplugging external DVI monitor (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged]
[08:18] <bryceh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/905591
[08:18] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 905591 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) ""BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 00000018" when trying to configure one display centered above another (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged]
[08:18] <bryceh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/905109
[08:18] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 905109 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Kernel lockup/crash while using desktop switcher in unity (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[08:20] <bryceh> Sarvatt, I'm seeing these on a toshiba, not a x200
[08:20] <bryceh> also, what I'm seeing is not a random periodic freeze but is definitely triggered by modesetting activity
[08:21] <bryceh> also in all cases network was fine and I could log in and get dmesg and logs
[09:02] <antivirtel> good day! I'm going to buy a Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E525 with ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6470M GPU. The problem is, that there are bad feedback for the Linux driver... Can I ask if there is an working (open source) driver?
[09:10] <bryceh> yes
[09:17] <antivirtel> bryceh oh, and are you absolutely sure or you have one? I saw this warning: http://askubuntu.com/questions/46976/ati-catalyst-control-center-gives-error-radeon-hd-6470m (Important note...)
[10:21] <antivirtel> bryceh oh, and are you absolutely sure or you have one? I saw this warning: http://askubuntu.com/questions/46976/ati-catalyst-control-center-gives-error-radeon-hd-6470m (Important note...)
[10:54] <bryceh> antivirtel, google "radeon feature"
[10:54] <antivirtel> I've tried bryceh
[11:59] <JanC> antivirtel: Catalyst/fglrx is the closed source driver (and that Q&A is about 11.04 so probably outdated for 11.10 anyway), and you first asked about the open source driver of course?
[12:00] <antivirtel> JanC - thanks, it is same to me what kind of license it has, but I need it to work property... without as much trouble as possible
[12:01] <jcristau> if you don't want trouble you don't want fglrx.
[12:20] <antivirtel> :)
[12:20] <antivirtel> thanks
[12:22] <JanC> antivirtel: can you try out the laptop beforehand from an live USB stick or CD or such?
[12:22] <JanC> that's always the best way to know for sure...  ;)
[12:24] <antivirtel> JanC unfortunately I cant, the laptop is ordered, can't be tryed before


[04:31] <missaugustina> Hi!  I'm working on the windows guided partition doc and I have a few questions
[04:31] <missaugustina> 1) Which branch do I want to edit?  Do I want to work on Jaunty since there's been a freeze on current versions of Ubuntu?
[04:32] <missaugustina> OK nm, that's my only question :)
[07:43] <mdke> missaugustina: it's the karmic branch that you need
[07:43] <mdke> missaugustina: although at the moment, there is no serious difference between the two, as we haven't started doing much work on the karmic branch yet
[14:34] <s3r3n1t7> Oh my, a page has gona missing! Could anyone tell me where https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto ended up?
[14:34] <LjL> i was about to say that in other words, but. yes.
[14:34] <s3r3n1t7> LjL, about to or did i miss it?
[14:35] <LjL> no, i hadn't asked yet
[14:35] <LjL> i was looking at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[14:35] <LjL> which claims it's been moved to /community/
[14:35]  * s3r3n1t7 checks
[14:36] <s3r3n1t7> well ... it says *poof* for me
[17:04] <missaugustina> mdke: thanks!  I will sync karmic instead of jaunty :)
[19:14] <LaserJock> mdke: I'm assuming you just copied old bzr branches to  make the edubuntu-jaunty branch
[19:15] <LaserJock> for some reason, probably my fault, we only have up to gutsy in the bzr branch
[20:35] <mdke> LaserJock: I can't remember if I made the edubuntu-jaunty branch or not, but what I do is "bzr branch X ; bzr push Y"
[20:36] <mdke> missaugustina: great, look forward to seeing your material - great idea about doing documents for usb-creator
[21:09] <LaserJock> mdke: are you going to do the ubuntu-docs upload to add a Conflicts?
[21:09] <mdke> LaserJock: no, I'm not confident about that
[21:09] <mdke> LaserJock: is edubuntu-docs fixed and uploaded now?
[21:10] <LaserJock> I've just uploaded it
[21:10] <LaserJock> mdke: I can upload ubuntu-docs if it's just adding the Conflicts
[21:10] <mdke> awesome
[21:10] <LaserJock> I just wasn't sure if you had more changes you had queued up or something
[21:10] <mdke> LaserJock: yes please
[21:11] <mdke> LaserJock: if you add the conflict to bzr I will combine it with something else I need to do later, and upload together
[21:11] <LaserJock> well, let me just give you the line to add (I'm not in ubuntu-core-doc anymore)
[21:12] <mdke> oh, really?
[21:12] <mdke> what is the position on edubuntu-docs in bzr?
[21:14] <LaserJock> really really bad
[21:14] <mdke> so it's out of date with the package?
[21:14] <LaserJock> yes
[21:14] <mdke> what do you want to do about it?
[21:14] <LaserJock> what you guys have is from Gutsy
[21:15] <LaserJock> one sec
[21:15] <mdke> so people have been changing the package without updating bzr? why is that?
[21:15] <LaserJock> because nobody had access to the bzr and were in a hurry ;-)
[21:15] <LaserJock> edubuntu-docs is basically dead
[21:16] <LaserJock> well, Edubuntu is basically dead
[21:16] <mdke> but they can just push to LP and ask someone to merge it
[21:16] <LaserJock> yes
[21:16] <mdke> slangasek has done that a couple of times for gnome-user-docs
[21:16] <LaserJock> ok, so add this to the ubuntu-docs part in debian/control:    Conflicts: edubuntu-docs (<< 9.04.1ubuntu1)
[21:17] <LaserJock> under Depends
[21:17] <LaserJock> oh, there are already Conflicts
[21:18] <LaserJock> so you want Conflicts: ubuntu-faqguide, ubuntu-quickguide (<< 5.10), edubuntu-docs (<< 9.04.1ubuntu1)
[21:18] <mdke> gottit
[21:18] <LaserJock> as far as bzr
[21:19] <LaserJock> I would replace the edubuntu-jaunty branch with what the branch at http://package-import.ubuntu.com/e/edubuntu-docs/jaunty
[21:19] <LaserJock> and replace the edubuntu-hardy branch with http://package-import.ubuntu.com/e/edubuntu-docs/hardy
[21:20] <mdke> jeez
[21:20] <LaserJock> that's the best I can come up with unfortunately
[21:20] <mdke> it's poor form for people to have ignored that the package is maintained in bzr like that
[21:21] <LaserJock> well, it was likely me so yeah
[21:21] <LaserJock> I think I might have had a bzr branch that I was going to merge
[21:21] <LaserJock> but it's gone now so ... :(
[21:22] <LaserJock> this is what happens when people just throw stuff together
[21:22] <mdke> ok
[21:22] <LaserJock> but as it turns out, getting the branches from package-import.u.c will be just as good
[21:22] <mdke> why don't you rejoin ubuntu-core-doc
[21:23] <LaserJock> yeah, maybe that's a good idea
[21:23] <LaserJock> I was trying to leave Ubuntu
[21:23] <LaserJock> but perhaps it was a bit too soon :-)
[21:23] <mdke> well, I wouldn't want to be the one to force you to stay, but... we love you
[21:24] <mdke> do I need to wait for edubuntu-docs to be published before uploading next ubuntu-docs?
[21:24] <LaserJock> mdke: ok, you need to add me to the team, I can't join myself
[21:25] <LaserJock> mdke: LP ID is laserjock
[21:25] <LaserJock> mdke: no, I think it should be fine to upload now
[21:25] <mdke> ok, added you
[21:26] <mdke> I had a discussion with vorlon about whether ubuntu-core-dev should be a member of ubuntu-core-doc so that they can commit to the bzr branches
[21:26] <LaserJock> hmm
[21:26] <mdke> (given that they can touch the packages ;))
[21:26] <mdke> in theory I said yes, but pointed out that they wouldn't want all the bugmail and bzr commit msgs
[21:26] <LaserJock> this is currently a sticky part of LP structure
[21:26] <LaserJock> exactly
[21:27] <nhandler> A lot of this will change after Archive Reorganization as well
[21:27] <LaserJock> I think what we really should do is separate out the packaging from the docs
[21:27] <LaserJock> nhandler: it'll probably get worse then
[21:28] <nhandler> LaserJock: I'm not sure what will happen. There has been talk about merging core-dev with motu after the reogranization
[21:28] <LaserJock> yes
[21:28] <LaserJock> but for the doc team, you still have the struggle between doc writers and packagers
[21:28] <mdke> I don't really like the idea of separating out packaging much, but maybe it's the right thing to do
[21:28] <LaserJock> so I would consider splitting it up
[21:28] <mdke> really, it's not much of a problem in practice, because I'm basically the only one uploading most of the time
[21:29] <LaserJock> yeah
[21:29] <mdke> and it's easy for me to merge branches if someone else touches things
[21:29] <LaserJock> can you directly upload?
[21:29] <mdke> yes, only for ubuntu-docs and gnome-user-docs
[21:29] <LaserJock> hmm
[21:30] <LaserJock> I'm not sure what the permissions would be like for that, it's tricky
[21:30] <LaserJock> because you could have a packaging branch that is accessible by you + core dev
[21:30] <mdke> well, I'm in ubuntu-dev I think
[21:30] <LaserJock> and all you'd do is merge from the ubuntu-core-doc branch and upload
[21:30] <LaserJock> rather than uploading from the ubuntu-core-doc branch directly
[21:31] <nhandler> mdke: Yes you are. ubuntu-dev is for people with per-package upload rights
[21:31] <LaserJock> so it'd just be adding a merge
[21:31] <mdke> nhandler: right
[21:31] <LaserJock> oh yeah, that's right
[21:31] <LaserJock> I forgot how they did that
[21:31] <mdke> there is this somewhere:
[21:31] <mdke>  (u'Archive Upload Rights', u'mdke', None, u'ubuntu-docs')
[21:31] <mdke>  (u'Archive Upload Rights', u'mdke', None, u'gnome-user-docs')
[21:31] <mdke> that is what gives the per-package rights
[21:39] <LaserJock> mdke: ohhh, I found the missing revisions
[21:39] <LaserJock> the branches you made for intrepid was not updated to latest of Hardy I don't think
[21:39] <LaserJock> because the edubuntu-hardy branch has the revisions
[21:39] <mdke> maybe they came after we branched for intrepid
[21:40] <LaserJock> perhaps so
[21:40] <LaserJock> it was rather last minute
[21:40] <LaserJock> in which case I just forgot (or didn't know) to update Intrepid's branch
[21:41] <LaserJock> now for Intrepid and Jaunty are you guys starting the branch over from scratch?
[21:41] <LaserJock> Hardy seems to have the full history
[21:42] <mdke> at one stage we dropped the history, but since then we have carried it over
[21:42] <mdke> it was just *huge*
[21:43] <mdke> maybe after hardy we started afresh
[21:43] <LaserJock> looks like it
[21:43] <LaserJock> ok, I think I know enough to fix the Intrepid and Jaunty branches
[21:45] <mdke> thanks dude
[21:45] <LaserJock> np, it's all my fault anyway
[21:46] <LaserJock> I just get rushed trying to put Edubuntu together and forget some cleanup :(
[21:51] <mdke> crap, bug 354764 looks like a decent candidate for a string freeze exception
[21:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 354764 in ubuntu-docs "libdvdread3 has been replaced by libdvdread4 in Jaunty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/354764
[21:52] <LaserJock> you should be able to grep that though
[21:52] <LaserJock> i.e. it doesn't have to be translated
[21:53] <mdke> good point :)
[21:53] <mdke> we'll need to sed all the translations though
[21:53] <LaserJock> yeah
[21:54] <mdke> (after downloading the for the final time)
[21:55] <mdke> hmm
[21:55] <mdke> we'll just have to try to remember to take care of that after translations are sorted
[21:55]  * mdke kicks dput
[21:56] <mdke> wheenver I'm uploading, using the internet becomes so painful
[21:57] <mdke> LaserJock: how can I test this new Conflicts thing?
[21:57] <LaserJock> install edubuntu-docs
[21:57] <LaserJock> then try to install the new ubuntu-docs
[21:58] <LaserJock> it should force removal of edubuntu-docs
[21:58] <mdke> unless it is the new version, right?
[21:59] <Atamira> :o
[21:59] <Atamira> theres talking
[21:59] <mdke> Atamira: we go through phases :)
[21:59] <Atamira> i know..small phases..this is quite chatty
[22:00] <mdke> recent times have been quite chatty
[22:00] <mdke> near a release, I guess
[22:00] <Atamira> its the upcoming release isnt it
[22:00] <Atamira> the last minute things
[22:00] <Atamira> then we'll all go back to be idle again
[22:00] <mdke> well, it's been a very good release cycle, I think
[22:01] <Atamira> im excited
[22:06] <LaserJock> mdke: yeah, so then you'd install the newer edubuntu-docs and it should install fine
[22:06] <mdke> ok, well i have about an hour while ubuntu-docs builds so we'll see
[22:06] <mdke> hopefully edubuntu-docs will be available by then :)
[22:07] <LaserJock> it's been about
[22:07] <LaserJock> s/about/built/
[22:07] <LaserJock> my brain
[22:07] <mdke> cool
[22:07] <LaserJock> edubuntu-intrepid was fixed
[22:07] <LaserJock> just pushing edubuntu-jaunty
[22:07] <LaserJock> done
[22:08] <LaserJock> ok
[22:08]  * LaserJock takes a breath
[22:08] <mdke> nice, thanks