[00:06] <Darkchaos> Short question: When editing the schroot with schroot -c, are the changes persistent? Because I fail to use sbuild from within a schroot, obviously
[00:06] <Darkchaos> And per definition I think that's why one uses chroots, to make changes to the system without affecting the host
[00:19] <Darkchaos> Okay mhh, doesn't work. I am trying to change the schroot's installed packages to later sbuild them, but sbuild a) upgrades them and b) doesn't even seem to see the ones I manually did with schroot -c
[00:41] <noway96> Is there a way to make all files created in a directory as group readable by default? A script creates hidden files without explicitly handling permission. I own the destination folder
[00:49] <bprompt> noway96:  wouldn't that be the job of "umask"?
[01:33] <Aristide> Its work \o/
[01:33] <fullstack> Hello
[01:47] <Aristide> thank's leftyfb :)
[01:47] <Aristide> And good night
[02:34] <Vooloo> ufw doesn't work. I blocked x.x.0.0/16 using "sudo ufw insert 1 deny from x.x.0.0/16 to any" and yet some annoying app keeps hitting my nginx server
[03:17] <nCoV_fren> Bazoo! Hi Frens!
[03:17] <middangearrd> Aloha
[03:19] <nCoV_fren> Everyone have a good weekend?
[03:26] <aivit> Since i have the same mount on all of these, is there like a shortcut to maybe just adding the mount in one place? i'm new to docker https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YPBycnvhtj/
[03:29] <leftyfb> !ot | nCoV_fren
[03:31] <robertparkerx> can you all maybe help me understand something? I want to upgrade my ubuntu server. my provider says they will do it automatically and mount it in either xfs or ext4. Which should I choose and why? Also will it be available /dev/sda1 ?
[03:33] <robertparkerx> what I mean by /dev/sda1 is will it be avaible for me to continue to use /srv/ path
[03:35] <swift110> sup
[03:37] <oerheks> ext4 vs xfs .. if you don't know, choose ext4
[03:41] <robertparkerx> oerheks do you know if it will be available to use as normal under /srv/ path etc
[03:41] <oerheks> no, that you should ask your provider
[03:45] <fullstack> I forgot what is the utility that allows you to try different kernels like switch, upgrade, search? I think it was a simple GUI in a package
[03:46] <oerheks> there is uuku, to test mainline kernels
[03:47] <oerheks> paid stuff..
[03:47] <oerheks> lolz
[03:47] <oerheks> oke, there is no free utility to change to mainline
[03:47] <oerheks> !mainline
[04:01] <fullstack> oh yeah it was uuku.  I want to try kernel 5.6. I see there's a 5.6-rc1 on kernel.ubuntu.com -- perhaps if I wait a few days there will be a non-rc1?
[04:05] <oerheks> make that few months, sure
[04:07] <Bashing-om> fullstack: You are encouraged to join the kernel release thread: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2432815 .
[04:16] <fullstack> Bashing-om, thank you.
[04:17] <Bashing-om> fullstack: :) These guys on the thread stay on top :D
[04:39] <swift110> oh
[04:49] <nCoV_fren> Hmm
[05:08] <Intelo> can I install linux on a chrombook instead of chrom os?  Why use  a chromebook if I can just install ubuntu-server, then install xorg, then install a browser in it. Wont that be better ?
[05:10] <sumagna> !in
[05:17] <sumagna> i am trying to join ubuntu-in channel to talk with my fellow indians but its saying i am banned
[05:17] <sumagna> i have never joined the server before
[05:18] <sumagna> but now it is saying that i am banned.
[05:18] <sumagna> so what should i do
[05:19] <oerheks> sumagna, join #ubuntu-ops for this , i guess your ip is on the blacklist
[05:20] <sumagna> how is my ip on the blacklist when i have never joined the channel
[05:20] <oerheks> there is one way to find out :-)
[05:21] <sumagna> what?
[05:21] <kk4ewt> sumagna; do you own your ip?
[05:22] <sumagna> what?
[05:22] <kk4ewt> sumagna; do you own your ip?
[05:22] <kk4ewt> do you own the static ip address you are using
[05:22] <sumagna> how do i know the wired connection is getting paid by my dad
[05:22] <kk4ewt> so no
[05:22] <sumagna> i think i am using dynamic ip
[05:23] <kk4ewt> you are getting the your ip from another service
[05:23] <oerheks> sumagna, join #ubuntu-ops for this
[05:23] <sumagna> joined
[05:23] <kk4ewt> and someone  else has used that ip before and have been banned
[05:25] <sumagna> i saw the same comment on the net that someone else has used this ip and got banned
[05:29] <Intelo> can I install linux on a chrombook instead of chrom os?  Why use  a chromebook if I can just install ubuntu-server, then install xorg, then install a browser in it. Wont that be better ?
[05:33] <oerheks> one can use crouton for installing ubuntu versions,not sure server is an option.
[05:33] <oerheks> why do it the hard way, what is the use for that route?
[05:46] <Intelo> oerheks,  chrome books are cheap but I like ubuntu (more power, same resource/hardware utilization if ubuntu-server+xorg+browser)
[05:50] <tatertots> Intelo: do you actually have a chromebook right now?...have you actually tried installing ubuntu?
[05:51] <oerheks> err, crouton is a virtual install, not the real deal
[05:53] <Intelo> tatertots, of course not, don't want to be idiot to buy something without getting enough info
[05:54] <Intelo> oerheks, ok. what do you think? can I install chromos on normal pc or linux on chrombook?
[05:55] <oerheks> dunno, i use ubuntu.
[05:57] <sumagna> i dont think you can install chrome os on normal pc
[06:04] <DarkTrick> I'd like to exclude specific entries from ending up in /etc/syslog
[06:05] <DarkTrick> is /etc/rsyslog.conf the correct place to do that?
[06:11] <elijaxapps> Hi, if someone is interested, I just wrote a guide to make teamspeak 3 server run on raspberry pi. If someone would like to test it I dont mind to share.
[06:12] <oerheks> elijaxapps, post it on ubuntu forum, you might get reactions/help too
[06:13] <elijaxapps> oerheks I was intending to publish it on a simply githum .md file.
[06:13] <elijaxapps> github*
[06:14] <elijaxapps> So if there are changes it can be updated.
[06:15] <oerheks> that is also a good idea, for the code itself
[06:17] <elijaxapps> Well, I would write a bash script but first i need to test it on more than one environment. Anyway, it will be extremely complex as it have to run commands inside and outside a chroot/qemu environment
[06:19] <elijaxapps> (Not so complex really but REALLY need other machines to test it, and people's feedback)
[06:21] <elijaxapps> I don't need help, I helped myself. Just wanted to share, as its due.
[08:53] <rory> I want to have multiple users with the same home directory. That home directory is also a FUSE mountpoint. What FUSE mount options do I need to ensure all users can write there? They are all members of the same group.
[08:53] <ikonia_> doesn't fuse lock it down to the session
[08:54] <ikonia_> "F USER S E"
[08:54] <ikonia_> it's a user mount
[08:54] <ikonia_> I thought that was one of the limitations (by design)
[08:54] <rory> Yeah it gets run as root, once. not once per user. in this case.
[08:54] <rory> not that it's relevant to the question but it's s3fs.
[08:55] <ikonia> rory: sorry, I meant the actual mount is in that users process jail
[08:55] <ikonia> I didn't mean user space as in user/kernel space
[08:55] <ikonia> I Didn't think, maybe wrongly, it could be made wider like that
[08:55] <ikonia> I'm not a huge user of it personally
[08:55] <ikonia> half asking myself while answering
[08:55] <rory> usually yeah but there is some option you can add in fstab that allows other users to write there
[08:55] <ikonia> really ?
[08:56] <rory> I've seen it before and I know it's possible but I can't remember
[08:56] <rory> "umask" or similar option
[08:56] <ikonia> the umask could make the target it writes to available I guess, but not the mount
[08:57] <ikonia> eg: if you mounted /tmp to /home/rory - did stuff in /home/rory /tmp would be correct
[08:57] <ikonia> but I thought that /home/rory would always be just rory
[08:57] <ikonia> (for example only)
[08:57] <ikonia> it's to do with the session used for the mount
[08:57] <ikonia> but that maybe certainly providers only eg: sshfs
[08:57] <ikonia> where your ssh auth is the access control
[08:58] <ikonia> (again asking while answering)
[09:02] <Northwoods> http://prntscr.com/r02es7
[09:02] <Northwoods> I am getting this error while i try to purge remove my previous mysql installation
[09:02] <Northwoods> and re-install
[09:06] <daft_dutch> Hi, I try to reboot a laptop with a usb Ubuntu image. with out unmounting the usb drive
[09:06] <daft_dutch> i do echo 1 > /run/casper-no-prompt;
[09:06] <daft_dutch> reboot
[09:07] <daft_dutch> but that shutsdown the laptop
[09:08] <ikonia> rory: I can't find anything in the docs yet
[09:09] <ikonia> daft_dutch: it will have to unmount it
[09:10] <ikonia> Northwoods: looks like you've tried to manually remove it first so files it expects are missing
[09:10] <daft_dutch> the usb is the root device cant unmount it.
[09:10] <ikonia> daft_dutch: you're rebooting the server
[09:10] <ikonia> daft_dutch: that will unmount it by default
[09:10] <ikonia> as the OS that mounts it will not be running
[09:11] <daft_dutch> yea but the reboot command turns off the laptop.  i need a reboot
[09:11] <Northwoods> ikonia, True
[09:11] <ikonia> as in powers off fully until you press the power button
[09:11] <ikonia> or powers off for a second and powers back on
[09:12] <ikonia> Northwoods: ok - so either a.) manually fix what you've broken b.) try to use the cleanup processs suggested in the error message
[09:12] <Northwoods> ikonia, i am not so good at it
[09:12] <Northwoods> i mean ubuntu
[09:12] <daft_dutch> it shutdown the laptop. not turning on
[09:15] <ikonia> daft_dutch: sounds like an apci bug
[09:16] <daft_dutch> ikonia, echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger does reboot the system
[09:19] <ikonia> sysrq is a panic though
[09:19] <ikonia> totally different situation than a reboot
[09:21] <Northwoods> ikonia, how to fix it manually
[09:21] <Northwoods> or how to re-install it from scratch
[09:21] <ikonia> have you tried --fix-broken as the error states
[09:21] <ikonia> or manually putting back the files it says are missing ?
[09:29] <Northwoods> ikonia, tried --fixpbroken
[09:29] <Northwoods> ikonia, tried --fix-broken
[09:43] <Northwoods> ikonia, http://prntscr.com/r034zo
[09:45] <daft_dutch> Northwoods, nice. you removed files you not suppose to delete. get an example file from somewhere.
[09:47] <Northwoods> daft_dutch, but i don't even know which file is requried
[09:56] <daft_dutch> Northwoods, the dir /etc/mysql/conf.d/
[09:56] <Northwoods> daft_dutch, ok
[10:03] <Northwoods> daft_dutch, damn.... it was such a small thing
[10:03] <Northwoods> little knowledge is even worse than no knowledge
[10:04] <daft_dutch> read back your error file it states the dir does not exist
[10:05] <nelgin> sudo mysql_secure_installation
[10:05] <nelgin> Try that.
[10:06] <nelgin> I think you have to configure it before you can run it.
[10:06] <Northwoods> configure in what sense
[10:06] <Northwoods> i ran phpmyadmin
[10:06] <Northwoods> it is working
[10:06] <Northwoods> nelgin, ^
[10:06]  * nelgin shrugs
[10:07] <nelgin> Screen capture says "mysql-server-5.7 is not configured"
[10:08] <Northwoods> nelgin, i installed it with apt-get install mysql-server
[10:08] <nelgin> Maybe running it manually will give some insight into why its failing?
[10:08] <Northwoods> after that
[10:08] <Northwoods> after installation it worked
[10:08] <Northwoods> nelgin, ?
[10:08] <Northwoods> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[10:08] <nelgin> What version of ubuntu?
[10:08] <Northwoods> 16.04
[10:09] <nelgin> Hmm, might be different with an earlier version then.
[10:09] <nelgin> Hmm nope
[10:09] <nelgin> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-mysql-on-ubuntu-16-04
[10:09] <nelgin> sudo apt-get update
[10:09] <nelgin> sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[10:09] <nelgin> mysql_secure_installation
[10:10] <nelgin> That's me done, I'm going to bed. Night.
[10:10] <Northwoods> nelgin, what is purpose of mysql_secure_installation
[10:25] <ice9> this is what happened when I tried to run LXD container: https://bpaste.net/ZTFQ
[10:37] <FrankyGov> heya
[10:37] <FrankyGov> dear members
[10:37] <FrankyGov> I would need a software like Superputty so that I can aggregate into multiple tabs each terminal instance
[10:37] <FrankyGov> Is there any software which I can use on Ubuntu?
[10:38] <wpk> FrankyGov: terminator, konsole
[10:42] <ducasse> also tmux, screen
[10:43] <FrankyGov> wpk, thank you so much. I just installed it through Ubuntu control panel
[10:43] <FrankyGov> ducasse, thanks as well
[11:16] <RonaldsMazitis> I am getting this error
[11:16] <RonaldsMazitis>     Could not initialize class org.apache.commons.ssl.TrustMaterial
[11:17] <RonaldsMazitis> it's a java problem
[11:31] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:59] <mlokpc> I have enabled ntp.service in SystemD on Ubuntu Bionic, however after a reboot it is inactive, does anybody have any ideas? Thanks
[12:01] <ikonia> mlokpc: doesn't bionic use systemd time
[12:01] <ikonia> not systemd to launch ntp
[12:02] <mlokpc> ikonia: when I list enabled services ntp is listed as enabled
[12:02] <ikonia> right, but is it actually starting
[12:03] <mlokpc> ikonia: no it is always inactive
[12:03] <ikonia> or it is trying to start and failing as it conflicts with systemd-time
[12:03] <mlokpc> ikonia: just a second, I will verify that
[12:05] <mlokpc> ikonia: systemd-time was enabled so I disabled it, let's see after a reboot now
[12:06] <mlokpc> ikonia: works
[12:20] <kubast2> Hey anyone have been able to install windows 3.5 on qemu/kvm ?
[12:21] <kubast2> win nt 3.5 can only detect IDE cd-rom adapter
[12:21] <kubast2> and fdc floppies
[12:21] <kubast2> can't detect the disk
[12:21] <ikonia> you need NT drivers on a disk to load things like SCSI
[12:21] <ikonia> the guys in ##windows can help
[12:21] <kubast2> IK I have the .vfd from fedora wiki / floppy windows x86 driver disk
[12:22] <kubast2> but it is 2.45MiB over the size of a floppy
[12:22] <kubast2> so it gets detected as damaged?
[12:22] <ikonia> then it's not designed for windows NT floppy support
[12:23] <kubast2> yeah ik, I need to check the full windows iso iirc it had drivers for 3.5 though I might be wrong and it was for 4.0
[12:23] <duibhneach> How do I get systemd to drop and rediscover / reinitialise a wired network adapter?
[12:23] <ikonia> 3.5 was a seperate driver disk
[12:24] <ikonia> duibhneach: why would it need to re-discvoer it
[12:24] <ikonia> what's the issue
[12:24] <duibhneach> The issue is that while trying to setup a VLAN I messed up the network entirely.
[12:24] <ikonia> ok ? so just re-configure it
[12:25] <duibhneach> As s (stupid) move to dfix I purged NetworkManager and now I don't even get a link light
[12:25] <ikonia> so work the problem
[12:25] <ikonia> rather than suggesting a solution you think will work
[12:26] <uajain> I want to ask if ubuntu supports/ships xembed tray icons if https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator is uninstalled?
[12:26] <ikonia> have a look
[12:26] <ikonia> list the packages - so if it's there
[12:26] <ikonia> look in the repo see if it's available
[12:26] <ikonia> that's a gnome extension though
[12:27] <ikonia> so not normally shipped in ubuntu packages for the majority
[12:27] <friendlyguy> hi there! sorry, very noobish question: i am trying to move a folder with files and subfolders into another folder. "mv ../some/folder/ newfolder/" but i get an error that the directory is not empty. why? i expected mv to move EVERYTHING under the source path to the new path.
[12:27] <kubast2> >whatever that is, we dont support it.  Windows 8.1 or greater
[12:27] <duibhneach> I suppose I am looking for a clue as to which config file is in control of my networking in Ubuntu 18.04
[12:27] <kubast2> ##windows doesn't support windows 7 or lower so
[12:27] <kubast2> *8
[12:27] <ikonia> kubast2: fair enough
[12:27] <duibhneach> and how to to bring them to a default state
[12:28] <ikonia> duibhneach: if you've uninstalled network manager,  you must have configured it some other way
[12:28] <duibhneach> Using "netplan" was my aim
[12:28] <friendlyguy> what am i doing wrong?
[12:29] <ikonia> duibhneach: so you have a choice of either progressing forward with netplan, or backing it out and returning to network manager
[12:29] <ikonia> friendlyguy: make sure you're not in the directory
[12:29] <friendlyguy> i am not
[12:29] <ikonia> friendlyguy: mv directory/* /path/to/new/directory
[12:29] <friendlyguy> why the asterisk?
[12:30] <duibhneach> ikonia: I would like to move forward with "netplan" but any changes I make there seem not to be having any affect
[12:30] <ikonia> friendlyguy: wildcards
[12:30] <friendlyguy> okay, same error msg, but now for subfolders of the folder i am trying to move
[12:30] <ikonia> duibhneach: so you need to state our clearly what you want to do, and what you've done and what the current problem is
[12:33] <friendlyguy> there is no -r or -R... so i guess i am using it wrong
[12:34] <duibhneach> ikonia: will try to gather my thoughts and info on it
[12:34] <duibhneach> ikonia: thanks
[12:34] <ikonia> friendlyguy: who said -r
[12:34] <friendlyguy> i tried it
[12:34] <ikonia> friendlyguy: just move the directory if it contains sub directories
[12:34] <ikonia> eg: mv /olddir /newdir
[12:35] <friendlyguy> same error msg
[12:35] <ikonia> friendlyguy: show me the exact command you're using please
[12:36] <friendlyguy> mv ../some/folder/ newfolder/
[12:36] <ikonia> friendlyguy: why is it ..
[12:36] <friendlyguy> hm?
[12:36] <ikonia> friendlyguy: that is not the EXACT command
[12:36] <ikonia> friendlyguy: show me the exact command please
[12:36] <friendlyguy> its the exact command, except the directory names... they are too long to type
[12:37] <ikonia> friendlyguy: cut and paste
[12:37] <ikonia> or use a pastebin
[12:37] <friendlyguy> no remote
[12:37] <friendlyguy> no copy paste
[12:37] <oerheks> then how did you mv .. ?
[12:37] <ikonia> friendlyguy: move to the directory - 1 level up and just do mv directory /new/place
[12:38] <friendlyguy> by typing and with bash completion?
[12:38] <friendlyguy> okay, lets try that
[12:38] <ikonia> no
[12:38] <ikonia> cd /where/you/need/to/be
[12:39] <ikonia> then mv directory /new/place
[12:39] <friendlyguy> directory not empty
[12:39] <friendlyguy> ah
[12:39] <ikonia> show me the command you used
[12:39] <friendlyguy> i did the 1 level up one
[12:39] <ikonia> show me the command you typed
[12:40] <friendlyguy> mv folder/tocopy/ newfolder/
[12:40] <ikonia> then you're ot onelevel up are you
[12:40] <ikonia> you're two levels up
[12:40] <ikonia> and that's the current working directory
[12:40] <ikonia> use the gui
[12:40] <ikonia> you are stuggling with basic command line details
[12:41] <Kingsy> if I install the general ubuntu 18.04 iso what DM am I getting gnome?
[12:41] <Kingsy> it doesnt look like gnome
[12:41] <ikonia> Kingsy: it is gnome
[12:41] <Kingsy> oh ok
[12:41] <friendlyguy> nope, 1 level not 2.
[12:42] <ikonia> friendlyguy: then you can't type the commands as folder/twocopy = 2 levels
[12:42] <ikonia> so you typed the command wrong, folder = 1 tocopy =2
[12:42] <friendlyguy> dont get rude, if you dont wanna help: dont. ../folder/tocopy == folder/tocopy just 1 level up
[12:42] <ikonia> friendlyguy: I'm not being rude
[12:42] <ikonia> ghostcube: I'm stating fact
[12:42] <Psil0Cybin1> hey can someone help me find a guide to create a wifi hotspot from another wifi hotspota
[12:43] <Psil0Cybin1> i keep finding guides but nothing actually gives me a network conenction
[12:43] <ikonia> friendlyguy: folder = going into one level, tocopy inside "folder" = 2 levells
[12:43] <Psil0Cybin1> i get to the pooint of creating the hotspot, i connect to the hotspot and it has no internet :(
[12:43] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin1: can you actually daisy chain hotspots ?
[12:45] <Psil0Cybin1> ikonia, what do u mean my attempt or ask is this: I am liing in an house with many people i want ot create my own hotspot from their hotspot so i can make a firewall
[12:45] <Kingsy> so I am looking to emulate something like this -> https://imgur.com/3AmYqfL <- that is gnome, can anyone think which dock might be able to do something like that? It doesnt seem possible with the regular gnome settings tool
[12:45] <Psil0Cybin1> on my machine
[12:46] <Psil0Cybin1> yes i could use a VPN
[12:46] <Psil0Cybin1> but i want to create a firewall than -> vpn
[12:46] <Psil0Cybin1> off each device.
[12:46] <Psil0Cybin1> so i want all my wifi to connect to my second wireless card on my machine
[12:46] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin1 that doesn't sounds like a good model
[12:46] <Psil0Cybin1> what do you recommend
[12:46] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin1: I'm not sure why you're trying to do this, rather than just connect to the hostspot and use it
[12:46] <Psil0Cybin1> but if i  want extra privacy
[12:47] <Psil0Cybin1> or make sure that my devices are not visable?
[12:47] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin1: you won't get it
[12:47] <friendlyguy> ikonia: you were right if you said go one level up and INTO the folder, but you didnt. i did exactly what you asked me to. go one level up. learn to read! and no, thanks. ill figure it out without your help... gladly.
[12:47] <ikonia> friendlyguy: I said go to one level above the folder
[12:47] <legreffier> Kingsy: they just seem like very big icons. not any specific docks
[12:48] <ikonia> 12:37 < ikonia> friendlyguy: move to the directory - 1 level up and just do mv directory /new/place
[12:48] <Kingsy> hmm yeah I am starting think thats the case.
[12:48] <ikonia> go to the directory - then 1 level up
[12:48] <ikonia> friendlyguy: "learn to read"
[12:48] <ikonia> Kingsy: that will be some sort of app / plugin for gnome shell or a media app
[12:48] <ikonia> looks very nice
[12:49] <Psil0Cybin1> ikonia, what do yo umean i will not get it?|
[12:49] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin1: you won't get what you want
[12:49] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin1: just use the wifi - and make sure you browse using SSL etc
[12:49] <Psil0Cybin1> oh okay
[12:49] <Psil0Cybin1> so you really do no trecommend me setting up a wifi spot from a wifi spot and making a firewall connection + setup a vpn, than use a vpn on my devices?
[12:50] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin1: I recommended none of that
[12:50] <Psil0Cybin1> I just really want extra security but if you think i wont accomplish what i want i will take your advice.
[12:50] <Psil0Cybin1> okay.
[12:50] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin1: I recommended connecting to the hotspot and using it
[12:50] <Psil0Cybin1> interesting
[12:50] <Psil0Cybin1> okay
[12:50] <Psil0Cybin1> thanks for you input
[12:52] <devster31> is there a smart way to delete a list from sources.list.d and also any packages that were installed from it?
[12:53] <ikonia> devster31: index the packages and anything that's tagged as from the repo you want purge it
[12:53] <ikonia> then remove the list file from sources.list.d
[12:53] <ducasse> devster31: check out ppa-purge
[12:54] <devster31> ikonia how can I index the packages grouped by repo?
[12:54] <devster31> ducasse unfortunately these aren't ppas
[12:54] <ikonia> devster31: there is a dpkg extension command that can list the repo
[12:54] <ducasse> you can still use it, read the man page
[12:54] <ikonia> I can't think of it off the top of my head
[12:54] <ikonia> works similar to apt-cache but for installed packages
[12:54] <oerheks> devster31, synaptic can easily filter that
[12:55] <ikonia> true, the gui is great
[12:56] <devster31> no gui unfortunately, I'll try with ppa-purge and aptitude
[12:56] <devster31> thanks
[13:42] <LordRyan> is there a known issue with multiverse packages that could affect official or unofficial derivatives?
[13:42] <LordRyan> trying to install steam under pop!_os and currently getting tons of dependency breakages
[13:44] <LordRyan> i think it's because libc6 is in proposed as 0ubuntu2.1 but libc6:i386 is not in proposed
[13:48] <ducasse> LordRyan: we don't support pop os, sorry
[13:48] <LordRyan> I'm asking specifically about Ubuntu repositories regardless of whether or not it's under a derivative or Ubuntu directly, if there's a known issue.
[13:48] <LordRyan> I think the issue is that libc6 and libc6:i386 have differring versions as one is updated in -proposed.
[13:51] <nirakara> hi. i'm having a problem with networking. i live on a network that is controlled by mac addresses. when i am in windows the DHCP server correctly assigns me an IP, but on ubuntu it does not
[13:51] <nirakara> i tried using macchanger to change my mac to another known mac that works, and the OS gets an IP address fine
[13:52] <LordRyan> ducasse: that fixed it so it may be an issue with official Ubuntu as well
[13:52] <nirakara> this is a dual boot machine
[13:53] <Ool> usualy you have the same mac address on all your OS… except if you forge it
[13:53] <nirakara> yeah Ool that's why this error is strange
[13:53] <nirakara> it is the same mac, i've checked but the DHCP refuses to assign an ip on ubuntu
[13:54] <nirakara> i'm tailing /etc/syslog and i see entries like DHCPDISCOVER on iface to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67 interval 12 (xid-0x5.....)
[13:54] <nirakara> NO DHCPOFFERS received
[13:55] <nirakara> but when i use macchanger to spoof another mac address which is known working it works fine in ubuntu
[13:56] <acresearch> people, i have a .csv file that i need to export as an excel file in order to upload it to a server. how can i accomplish that in ubuntu? is there a converter? or an app i install? or an office immulator?
[13:56] <Ool> nirakara: ask the admin, perhaps there is an extension to limit this usage
[13:57] <Ool> acresearch: for me excel can read csv directly
[13:58] <acresearch> Ool: i know, but i need to export th csv into an excel file
[13:58] <acresearch> i do not need to modify anything, i just need the format
[13:59] <Ool> libreoffice or excel can open it and export it to .xls
[14:00] <acresearch> Ool: oh nioce,  is there excel for ubuntu?
[14:00] <elias_a> Nope.
[14:00] <acresearch> oh
[14:01] <acresearch> but libre office can export to an excel file?
[14:01] <ducasse> gnumeric should also be able to do it, if you want something lighter
[14:06] <acresearch> ok got it,,, thanks :-)
[14:09] <Arimil> Hey guys I'm trying to configure iptables but I'm running into issues because it appears some of my block rules are taking priority over the accept ones. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/y2CFRV78wH/
[14:09] <Arimil> The rules to block all other traffic at the bottom appear to be disconnecting ssh even though I've explicitly allowed them from the local network above that.
[14:16] <pent1ckel> Arimil: the problem is the in the output queue. there is nothing allowed right now
[14:17] <pent1ckel> you have two options there: 1 allow outing pkg fro specific protocols/port
[14:17] <pent1ckel> 2. using stateful firewall rules and add -A OUTPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
[14:17] <pent1ckel> so all you packets currently get blocked because of -P OUTPUT DROP
[14:18] <Arimil> Ah I see, thanks.
[14:18] <pent1ckel> also blocking everything on lo0 might have some weird sideeffects
[14:18] <Arimil> Yeah I think maybe just blocking incoming connections would be enough.
[14:19] <pent1ckel> currently now outgoing traffic would be possible as all as -P OUTPUT DROP without any other rule really blocks everything
[14:20] <pent1ckel> not sure which level of security you are aiming for
[14:21] <Arimil> Fairly high but it seems like it would be a pain to whitelist every outbound connection. Especially when installing updates and such.
[14:22] <speeder39_> Good morning
[14:23] <speeder39_> I am looking to install I ubuntu on an older P
[14:23] <speeder39_> PC
[14:23] <speeder39_> Want to completely wipe Win 7
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> !flavours | speeder39_
[14:24] <pent1ckel> Arimil: it might end up in a lot of lines with different IP spaces as by today more and more CDNs used for update which changes there IP very often
[14:24] <speeder39_> Flavors????  Like flavors of ice cream????
[14:24] <Arimil> speeder39_ it's different desktop environments
[14:24] <speeder39_> Arimil: are you in the USA
[14:25] <Arimil> also https://rufus.ie if you're installing from windows 7 you'll need to download something like this to setup a bootable drive
[14:25] <Arimil> how is that relevant?
[14:25] <speeder39_> Just curious Arimil
[14:25] <Arimil> Yes, I am.
[14:27] <speeder39_> Is that the link to set up drive. I can on a USB drive
[14:27] <Kingsy> how in the world do you remove the left bar? the dock? you you "hide" it when a window moves over it, but I just want to totally remove it
[14:28] <speeder39_> Which flavor ubuntu most similar to win 10
[14:28] <pent1ckel> Arimil: so far clarified with the iptables issue?
[14:28] <crimson_king> speeder39_, To Windows 10? Kubuntu, I'd say.
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> speeder39_: we dont really take polls here
[14:28] <Arimil> speeder39_ yes that's what that link is for setting up a drive
[14:29] <speeder39_> That is Irish link with.ie at end
[14:29] <Arimil> pent1ckel yeah I'm good for now I realized the mistake I made
[14:30] <crimson_king> speeder39_, But if your PC is really old, you're gonna be more satisfied with Xubuntu (light), Ubuntu MATE (intermediate) or Lubuntu (very light).
[14:30] <speeder39_> Is 6gb Ram enough??
[14:30] <speeder39_> Around 5 years old???
[14:30] <crimson_king> That's not so old.
[14:30] <speeder39_> Is that really old
[14:30] <crimson_king> or slow.
[14:30] <speeder39_> crimson_king: are you in the USA
[14:30] <crimson_king> No, I'm not
[14:31] <speeder39_> Across the Atlantic in Europe?
[14:31] <crimson_king> why?
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> !ot | speeder39_
[14:32] <speeder39_> @lotuspsychje: 🤔🤔🤔
[14:32] <vodiylik> :)
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> speeder39_: this is not a general chat, please focus on actual ubuntu support questions
[14:32] <speeder39_> Am I getting close to being kicked??
[15:34] <rublind> I have a drive that failed, and now when my system boots it drops me into an emergency console. There are errors about timing out waiting for a disk 'dev-disk-by-uuid-...' - I _think_ I had an LVM or a raid (that was created 6+ years ago). I have a new drive now, but I'm not sure how to fix this issue.
[15:37] <joemac53> Is it possible to obtain support with a Xubuntu suspend/resume issue from this channel?
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> joemac53: xubuntu is a supported flavour of ubuntu, so sure, ask your issue to the channel
[15:40] <joemac53> I am getting a black screen when resuming from suspend.  I'm using Xubuntu 18.04.4 on a Lenovo ThinkPad E495 AMD Ryzen 7 with integrated AMD graphics
[15:41] <joemac53> I have tried the some of the trouble-shooting steps from the DebuggingKernelSuspend  page
[15:41] <joemac53> During resume, the power light goes from blinking to solid, but the screen is black and there is no response to keyboard input
[15:42] <joemac53> Including tryint to drop to TTY1
[15:42] <joemac53> I tried uninstalling light-locker, but the issue persisted
[15:43] <joemac53> any form of suspend has the same issue (terminal command, lid closure, GUI menu)
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> joemac53: can you doublecheck if bug #1759950 affects you?
[15:43] <joemac53> I will check
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> joemac53: i also recall users with ryzen suspend issues, that didnt have the issue on kernel 4.19
[15:44] <joemac53> No - I cannot authenticate
[15:45] <joemac53> different issue
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> allright
[15:45] <joemac53> Is 4.19 an "official" kernel for the LTS?
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | joemac53
[15:48] <joemac53> Ok, is there a particular kernel package that would be recommended for me to try for purposes of trouble-shooting?
[15:49] <joemac53> I am concerned about stability - hence my choice of an LTS
[15:49] <ioria> joemac53, here the guy says to install and configure xscreensaver : https://starlabs.kb.help/guides/xubuntu-suspendresume-fix/    but i bet it's a bit deeper than that; you should check dmesg (if you can) :  dmesg | less
[15:50] <joemac53> ok, is there anything in particular that I am looking for in dmesg?
[15:51] <joemac53> I did a dmesg > dmesg.txt right after rebooting from a failed suspend
[15:51] <ioria> joemac53, grep for 'fail', or 'error'
[15:52] <joemac53> regarding the https://starlabs.kb.help/guides/xubuntu-suspendresume-fix/, I did remove light-locker and install xscreensaver - it had no impact
[15:53] <joemac53> so I reinstalled light locker
[15:54] <ioria> joemac53, xscreensaver nedds a configuration iirc, not just install
[15:54] <ioria> *needs
[15:55] <joemac53> I will try xscreensaver  again.  If the resume fails, I will need to reboot, so I'm going to sign out and give it a try
[15:56] <cetex> In ubuntu, what is it that triggers automatic shutdown of the laptop around 2% of battery?
[15:57] <ioria> joemac53, for the record : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1431149
[15:57] <cetex> is it some hardcoded limit in upowerd?
[15:57] <tieinv> power management?
[16:04] <cetex> seems like it's upowerd..
[16:05] <cetex> and it's set to 2% by default..
[16:06] <cetex> that's like 30minutes.
[16:11] <joemac> No joy
[16:11] <joemac> I am still trying to debug resume after suspend.  I tried switching to xscreensaver
[16:12] <joemac> The settings that were recommended were not entirely clear.  I took it to mean that I should go into Screensaver Preferences - advanced tab and toggle Display Power Management to "on"
[16:13] <ioria> joemac, right after you left, posted this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1431149
[16:13] <joemac> I will check that
[16:14] <pavlos> joemac: wrote a small article about suspend/resume, it might help you ... https://www.azloco.org/2019/04/06/systemd-suspend-resume-script/
[16:14] <joemac> 1431149 does not appear to be the same bug
[16:15] <joemac> That bug has resume working under some circumstances - I cannot get anything other than  a black screen under any resume conditions
[16:18] <joemac> pavlos - I'm not sure I understand what the script would do.  I have used scripts called from /etc/pm/sleep.d/ as workarounds to get sleep/resume working
[16:18] <joemac> on other laptops
[16:19] <joemac> It seems to me that the graphics driver is not being restored or is crashing somehow
[16:21] <ioria> joemac,  switching  to tty works  ?
[16:21] <joemac> no
[16:21] <ioria> ah
[16:21] <joemac> tried tty1
[16:21] <joemac> no keyboard input works
[16:21] <joemac> no backlight at all
[16:21] <joemac> power light goes from flashing to solid on, but no keyboard input works and the backlight does not come on
[16:22] <ioria> joemac,  you can try the quick workaround on #14
[16:22] <Ool> works with an other USB keyboard ?
[16:22] <joemac> no
[16:23] <joemac> neither an external nor built in input does anything
[16:23] <joemac> resume just gives a black unlit screen and no input, with the power light solidly on
[16:23] <joemac> Or at least, no observable input
[16:24] <ioria> it's a system freeze (i suggest using alt+print + r-i-s-u-b to reboot)
[16:24] <joemac> If the graphics driver isn't working, the keyboard input could be doing something, but I can't see anything
[16:24] <Ool> USB bus seems to stay asleep
[16:25] <joemac> Or its awake and I can't see that it is
[16:26] <joemac> I made a dmesg.txt - but I don't see anything telltale - could anyone else take a look?
[16:27] <joemac> I also tried setting a lid shut to just power the screen off, but eventually it goes to suspend and locks the computer up.  Also, not having suspend on a laptop uses the battery power up faster.
[16:30] <legreffier> joemac: which driver are you using ?
[16:30] <joemac> amdgpu
[16:30] <joemac> open source default
[16:30] <ioria> joemac, to paste dmesg use cat dmesg.txt | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:30] <ioria> joemac, upgrading the kernel might help
[16:31] <joemac> ioria - dmesg sent
[16:31] <ioria> joemac, you are supposed to paste the url here
[16:32] <joemac> I haven't used IRC in about 20 years
[16:32] <joemac> so exactly how would I share the dmesg.txt?
[16:33] <ioria> joemac, the cmd above gives you an url in terminal ....
[16:33] <ioria> yes ?
[16:33] <t3ch> hello all!
[16:34] <legreffier> https://pobe.ga/posts/intel-9260-suspend/ << is that similar to your problem ?
[16:34] <t3ch> anyone know if is possible to disable one harddrive that dont work but is runn ing and ventilators are running just for it.. with drivers or not know how?
[16:35] <joemac> I had pasted "cat dmesg.txt | nc termbin.com 9999" into a terminal
[16:36] <ioria> joemac,     yes ? it will return an url
[16:36] <joemac> and it sent a url back
[16:36] <ioria> joemac, paste it here
[16:36] <joemac> https://termbin.com/23ks
[16:36] <ioria> good
[16:37] <joemac> thanks
[16:37] <ioria> AMD Ryzen 7 3700U with Radeon Vega Mobile  -> not a good news
[16:38] <ioria> Call Trace 851993; 2*° bad news
[16:38] <joemac> Yep
[16:39] <joemac> I mentioned the Ryzen 7 3700U in my first message this morning because I thought that might be the issue
[16:40] <joemac> fairly recent hardware - April 2019 build date
[16:40] <ioria> journal corrupted or uncleanly shut down
[16:40] <joemac> ok
[16:40] <ioria> joemac,  that'swhy i told you to use  alt+print+reisub to reboot
[16:41] <konrados> Hey, I don't get it. I just wanted to install some software (krita) and got this: https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/a3850c6846904b04ac2bf5b687799199
[16:41] <joemac> I did have to do a forced shutdown (hold pwer button).  I can try seeing if the key combination will work
[16:41] <ioria> !REISUB
[16:41] <konrados> I only did sudo add-apt-repository https://launchpad.net/\~kritalime/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[16:42] <ioria> joemac,  if the kb works obviously
[16:43] <joemac> I will drop off the chat briefly and try again.  The key combo is alt + print + r-e-i-s-u-b, altogether?
[16:43] <ioria> joemac, the kernel  in use is 4.15.0-76 , but a new kernel is available in the hwe
[16:44] <joemac> I have seen references to hwe - is there a particular package that will turn that on?
[16:44] <ioria> joemac, sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04
[16:44] <joemac> Should I try that first, then try trouble-shooting the suspend ?
[16:44] <Intelo> can I install linux on a chrombook instead of chrom os?  Why use  a chromebook if I can just install ubuntu-server, then install xorg, then install a browser in it. Wont that be better ?
[16:45] <ioria> joemac, nope, first try to troubleshoot
[16:45] <joemac> Thanks - will do the troubleshoot.  Bye for now.
[16:45] <ioria> ok
[16:49] <ducasse> Intelo: depends. chromeos might be better suited for the hardware. TIAS.
[16:50] <Intelo> ducasse, hm.. ya but I want the same price, battery, price of chrome but slighly different os
[16:50] <Intelo> ie ubuntu
[16:51] <ducasse> konrados: remove the ppa you added, then follow the instructions here to add it back - https://launchpad.net/~kritalime/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[16:51] <ducasse> konrados: then remove the lines apt complains about
[16:54] <konrados> ducasse, but... but it's a clean system, I didn't add any ppa before, it's the first one, how can I know what to remove? You mean everything on the list?
[16:54] <konrados> I didn't do anything, it's a fresh installation, on a new disk
[16:56] <konrados> I decided to make the completly new installation, because last time I also had problems with ppa :( I don't get it :(
[16:57] <pragmaticenigma> konrados: You did do something... you added a PPA repository, and then something broke... that's "doing something" so please don't continue saying you didn't do anything
[16:57] <joemac> I tried alt+print+reisub at the black screen after resume - nothing happened - I still had to shutdown with the power button
[16:57] <konrados> pragmaticenigma, ok, maybe I did, but I don't know what that could be
[16:57] <ducasse> konrados: that apt output lists several third party repos
[16:58] <joemac> I did create a second text file with the dmesg contents
[16:59] <ducasse> konrados: read the apt output to see what to remove - "W: Target Packages (main/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:52 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscode.list:3"
[16:59] <pragmaticenigma> konrados: part of running a computer is remembering the actions you take. If you have trouble remembering, the I would suggest you start writing down the steps and things you execute. You added a repository, and it broke your system. The only help you will receive here is how to remove the repository, which has already been suggested to you with documentation. The volunteers in this channel only support the software made
[16:59] <pragmaticenigma> available through the official Ubuntu software channels.
[16:59] <konrados> ducasse, pragmaticenigma - when I get a notification about updates, I just click "OK", so maybe I did something, but this time not consciously, I just clicked "OK"
[17:00] <pragmaticenigma> konrados: 20 minutes ago you wrote: "<konrados> I only did sudo add-apt-repository https://launchpad.net/\~kritalime/+archive/ubuntu/ppa"
[17:00] <konrados> I did NOT add a ppa intentionally
[17:00] <konrados> pragmaticenigma, yeah, but this is the moment my problems started
[17:01] <ducasse> konrados: you have added repos for telegram, virtualbox, chrome, node and vscode
[17:01] <konrados> ducasse, ah... indeed, sorry, I just do it all the time, and thought it's safe, and indeed I forgot it, sorry :(
[17:01] <pragmaticenigma> konrados: That is adding a repsitory... you did that on purpose... things don't "accdentially" happen. You had to type out that entire line of characters.  It is on you for executing something you don't understand
[17:02] <joemac> Is there anything else I should try to troubleshoot the black screen resume issue, or should I go to the HWE kernels
[17:02] <ses1984> i see that openssl 1.1.1 has a CVE out on it, what should i do if i want to build 1.1.1d and replace 1.1.1 in my system
[17:02] <ducasse> konrados: run the add-apt-repository command again, but add -r
[17:02] <konrados> pragmaticenigma, ducasse - sorry again, it's a script I run.... ok, will remove the ppas
[17:02] <konrados> ducasse, ok
[17:02] <ses1984> where is the code that builds the deb of openssl 1.1.1 that is used in the current repos fo 18.04
[17:03] <ses1984> i thought i could look there to see how the deb is built, so i can build my own deb for 1.1.1d
[17:03] <ducasse> konrados: you don't need to remove the others, just correct what apt complains about
[17:03] <konrados> ducasse, so - `sudo add-apt-repository -r https://launchpad.net/\~kritalime/+archive/ubuntu/ppa` ?
[17:03] <eelstrebor> where can i post a snapshot to show a "problem" on my pc?
[17:04] <ducasse> konrados: yes
[17:04] <konrados> eelstrebor, https://imgur.com/upload
[17:04] <konrados> ok, doing
[17:04] <ses1984> on this page is says a pacakge is needed, https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2019/CVE-2019-1547.html is there any way i can help with that?
[17:05] <konrados> ducasse, no result, no communication, now how can I test if everything's fine?
[17:05] <ducasse> konrados: if there is no output it has done the job
[17:06] <ducasse> konrados: post the output of 'sudo apt update'
[17:06] <joemac> As requested, I tried alt+print+reisub at the black screen after resume - nothing happened - I still had to shutdown with the power button. I am not sure what to try next in order to get suspend/resume working
[17:06] <pragmaticenigma> ses1984: You can try asking in #ubuntu-devel
[17:07] <konrados> ducasse, https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/4d2371bd5be6494a8f7e42ce4465921f
[17:07] <konrados> still some problems
[17:08] <ioria> joemac, try the new kernel hwe
[17:08] <joemac> OK
[17:08] <eelstrebor> anyone know why i'm getting this dialog box? i haven't seen it on my other pc's: https://imgur.com/a/x1RP30D
[17:09] <ducasse> konrados: can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscode.list for me?
[17:09] <ioria> joemac, if it fails you can try this : https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/cveeyl/linux_on_t495t495sx395_suspendresume_fix/
[17:09] <joemac> Once it installs the new kernel, I will reboot and then try suspend/resume again and check the reddit if needed
[17:10] <pragmaticenigma> eelstrebor: Your machines will refresh their package lists at different times. So some may see an update prompt before others
[17:10] <ducasse> eelstrebor: you must have the settings set to ask when updates are available
[17:10] <eelstrebor> it looks like it has something to do with flatpack which is only on this pc
[17:11] <joemac> ioria - should I try the kernel change first, or troubleshoot the bluetooth as recommended in the Reddit post?
[17:11] <Darkchaos> Sorry for asking this over and over, but is there a simple way to hook into pbuilder's chroot, so I can change the environment before continueing to compile?
[17:12] <ioria> joemac, a newer kernel with your hw is not bad
[17:12] <konrados> ducasse, - https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/632532458507440cb4647a11623fdce6
[17:13] <joemac> ioria - looks like it's going to 5.3.0-28-generic
[17:13] <ioria> yes
[17:13] <joemac> OK - rebooting now - thanks again
[17:14] <ducasse> konrados: 'sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscode.list' then 'sudo apt update'. see if there are errors or warnings
[17:18] <JuJUBee> I am using ltsp and used snap on the server to install tmcbeans but my users cannot see it?  They have restarted their terminals and I have updated the image.  Any ideas?
[17:18] <konrados> ducasse, it seems fine (?) except the last line - https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/f070e6378d4a4137987f813975415bcc
[17:19] <joemac> ioria the HWE kernel update did the trick.  Should I uninstall xscreensaver and reinstall light-locker and re-test
[17:19] <joemac> Thanks!
[17:19] <mra90> I have ubuntu up&running but would like to install windows also in a dual boot configuration, where should I strat?
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | ioria
[17:19] <ioria> ok, good to hear joemac
[17:19] <mra90> start*
[17:19] <ioria> gnam lotuspsychje
[17:20] <ducasse> konrados: 'ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d' - pastebin result
[17:20] <ioria> joemac, light-locker is a bit buggy  afaik
[17:20] <joemac> OK
[17:21] <ioria> joemac, but you know how to purge xscreensaver, and occasionally reinstall it
[17:21] <joemac> How do I get the screenlock back when suspending - I would like password input to unlock.  Is that in the xscreensaver settings
[17:21] <joemac> yep, I can purge/reinstall if needed
[17:21] <ioria> yes
[17:21] <joemac> ok
[17:22] <konrados> ducasse, https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/76af2997c2cd45daaed3e7476373ea20
[17:24] <ducasse> konrados: can you use virtualbox from the ubuntu repos, or do you need the one from the virtualbox site?
[17:24] <konrados> ducasse, I don't care :) I just want to have it. Not sure what is the difference, but assume that the second option is better for some reason.
[17:25] <konrados> or the first:)
[17:25] <ducasse> konrados: it's just newer, but we only support the one in the repos. remove the line "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian bionic contrib" from /etc/apt/sources.list or comment it out
[17:26] <konrados> doing...
[17:27] <ducasse> konrados: then 'sudo apt update' should return without errors
[17:29] <konrados> ducasse, seems fine - https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/e218e45d8d6241b8aa5a3c1867fc6ae6
[17:29] <konrados> ducasse, but... what is the mistake I made?
[17:31] <konrados> I really try to learn linux, but this just is over my head, I was strictly following the manuals and docs o.O
[17:31] <ducasse> konrados: it's fine now, you just added the krita ppa incorrectly. use 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kritalime/ppa'
[17:31] <konrados> oh, ok
[17:32] <ducasse> konrados: see the instructions here - https://launchpad.net/~kritalime/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[17:36] <konrados> ducasse, I don't know how to thank you. It worked :) pragmaticenigma - also thank you. I'm not an admin guy, and usually in my work someone else took care about this stuff (this is my explanation:)) - thanks again!
[17:37] <ducasse> konrados: you're welcome, happy to help :)
[17:37] <konrados> :)
[17:46] <eelstrebor> this kinda sucks - i found 2 firefox apps installed - removed one in favor of the new & improved quantum version and now all me bookmarks, plugins, addons, and settings are gone
[17:47] <pressure679> The Ubuntu repository, has different bios version for at least 1 PC. Is it ok if someone tells me which software or whatever it is?
[17:48] <eelstrebor> i did find a much nicer calculator during my "cleanup"
[17:52] <leftyfb> pressure679: huh?
[17:52] <pressure679> It's ok if you just waste time.
[17:53] <leftyfb> pressure679: what is your ubuntu support question?
[17:53] <pressure679> - The Ubuntu repository, or one of the repositories, has[...]
[17:54] <pressure679> The maintainer of the software may be dead, idk.
[17:54] <leftyfb> pressure679: which repository?
[17:55] <littlepython> Hi there, i have this snippet https://dpaste.org/G7Fd
[17:55] <littlepython> i want to replace jenkinstest2 with ${namespace}
[17:55] <pressure679> Maybe one or more for the Ubuntu distros.
[17:55] <littlepython> could someone please help me on how to do that
[17:55] <littlepython> since it involves lot of quotes i am confused. unfortunately for now i have to take this route. so help is much appreciated
[17:55] <leftyfb> pressure679: what are you talking about? Can you be specific please?
[17:56] <pressure679> I'm sorry leftyfb, I get payed to do some other stuff now.
[17:57] <leftyfb> littlepython: you want #bash maybe
[17:59] <littlepython> ah ok ill ask there as well again.. leftyfb: do you know the solution for my problem
[18:11] <mvkdev> why does ubuntu nearly hang when node executable takes my cpu under heavy load? (i do have a 2gb swap partition)
[18:17] <Mathisen> swap would not help with cpu load
[18:18] <mvkdev> Mathisen but the scheduler of my OS isnt doing its work properly then i guess
[18:19] <mvkdev> how do i fix this? :D
[18:23] <ikonia> mvkdev: what is bottlenecking your machine
[18:23] <ikonia> and why do you assume the scheduler is the problem
[18:23] <mvkdev> ikonia nodejs runs on 100%, and then i cant use my desktop normally anymore => bottleneck?
[18:24] <ikonia> no, that's running out of resource
[18:24] <ikonia> what is causing it to run out of resource
[18:24] <mvkdev> processor time
[18:24] <ikonia> are you sure ?
[18:24] <ikonia> are you sure you're not waiting on anything else that is locking the process
[18:24] <ikonia> so the cpu can't be freed up
[18:28] <mvkdev> ikonia ok so i just did a test, i'm running out of memory
[18:29] <mvkdev> there's 8gb in this machine
[18:29] <mvkdev> MiB Mem :   7846,0 total,   2738,2 free,   2153,4 used,   2954,3 buff/cache
[18:29] <mvkdev> when it's running the node process, memm goes to 300meg free...
[18:34] <mvkdev> so how do i prevent my system from locking up when it run's out of memory?
[18:36] <pragmaticenigma> mvkdev: You can't... you can only take proactive measures... like analyzing what's happening during the lock up and then try to figure out why that is requiring so much of the system resource
[18:44] <ikonia> mvkdev: why do you think you're running out of memory
[18:44] <ikonia> it's not just about the "Free" line
[18:45] <ikonia> (you could be right too, it's about understanding your thoughts)
[18:46] <OroSorrow> hello what's the best way to manage "logs" and by logs i mean the result of output from a command chain like nohup somecommand > logme.log
[18:46] <ikonia> OroSorrow: in what way manage ?
[18:46] <OroSorrow> if this isn't the best place to ask something like this i don't mind being pointed elsewhere, i mean after it reaches x kb rotate logs and purge older files after x amount of time
[18:47] <ikonia> OroSorrow: you could use logrotate or a file watcher, or even something a bit older like inotify
[18:47] <OroSorrow> i see
[18:47] <OroSorrow> is logrotate just a command?
[18:47] <OroSorrow> i'll start googling, thank you
[18:50] <raver> > ikonia hat geschrieben:
[18:50] <raver> > OroSorrow: you could use logrotate or a file watcher, or even something a bit older like inotify
[18:50] <raver> ... inotify is old?
[18:52] <sarnold> ~twenty years maybe?
[18:53] <sarnold> Inotify  was merged into the 2.6.13 Linux kernel.  The required library interfaces were added to glibc in version 2.4.
[18:53] <sarnold> ah fifteen years https://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_13
[18:53] <raver> I thought initifywait was newer...
[18:54] <raver> I still use it rarely in shell scripts..
[18:54] <raver> Is there a better way in newer kernels?
[18:58] <mra90> why I can not resize partition using GParted?
[19:00] <pragmaticenigma> mra90: Is the drive the one you're currently booted from?
[19:00] <mra90> pragmaticenigma, yes exactly
[19:00] <pragmaticenigma> mra90: You can't resize a mounted partition
[19:01] <mra90> But it should work- it should shrink the free spoace
[19:01] <mra90> I see no reason to forbid it
[19:01] <mra90> I think I was able to do it under windows
[19:05] <pragmaticenigma> mra90: The tool is preventing you from shooting yourself in the foot... sometimes you can make an active partition larger, but you can't make it smaller
[19:09] <mra90> pragmaticenigma, but live USB installation will allow me to do so  soo whats the point?
[19:09] <mra90> I mean the danger is the same when I do it from live USB boot or hdd isn't it?
[19:10] <Ben64> when you're booting from usb you can unmount the hdd
[19:12] <havv>  python3-rados : Depends: python3 (< 3.7) but 3.7.3-1 is to be installed, what does this mean? That I have 3.7 installed and it requires 3.6?
[19:13] <pragmaticenigma> mra90: No, there danger is greatly reduced... the reason you can't do it live is because the data on the drive is in use. To resize, the data needs to be shifted. It would be like pulling the rug out from underneath someone. You technically can do it, but there are going to be unfortunate consequences.
[19:14] <cgi> how do i do a efficient two-way sync on two ubuntu machines? (preferably using ssh)
[19:15] <pragmaticenigma> cgi: rsync is the only tool that I am aware of for such a task. However it is not two way, you have to run one in one direction, then run the other machine to achieve the other direction
[19:16] <cgi> pragmaticenigma, I was hoping to do this automatically - not manually running everytime I change a file
[19:16] <mra90> pragmaticenigma, got it, thanks :)
[19:16] <ikonia> cgi: drbd for the disks ?
[19:18] <Polesch> Windows 10 in QEMU/KVM freezes on boot, every time. Anyone know how to fix this?
[19:18] <pragmaticenigma> cgi: aside from the bad idea that is (i.e. you screw up file and now it's in both locations with no backup) ... rsync can be schedule to run, which is what I would recommend... set each to run every 10 minutes, one only runs on the 5s, the other to run on the 0s
[19:18] <cgi> ikonia, does that work over ssh?
[19:18] <ikonia> cgi: no, why do you need it to happen over ssh
[19:18] <cgi> pragmaticenigma, I am syncing two git repos actually. So I could use git to pull changes perhaps?
[19:18] <ikonia> cgi: what is your actual goal here ?
[19:18] <pragmaticenigma> cgi: ssh is not a file transfer protocol... and is not designed for the purpose you're describing
[19:19] <pragmaticenigma> cgi: That would be the smarter way
[19:19] <cgi> ikonia, I want to be able to use an IDE to do development on a server directory and debu
[19:19] <ikonia> cgi: so you don't want to keep anything in sync
[19:19] <cgi> My server and desktop both run ubuntu
[19:19] <pragmaticenigma> cgi: Choose one git to be the primary, the other secondary. Only commit changes to the primary, the secondary gets schedule to pull from the primary on a regular schedule
[19:19] <ikonia> you just want to make the server file system available to your machine running the IDE
[19:19] <cgi> ikonia, I tried sshfs - too slow
[19:19] <cgi> ikonia, yes
[19:20] <ikonia> cgi: sshfs can't be too slow
[19:20] <ikonia> just export the file system via some network file protocol, sshfs, fuse, nfs, samba, whatever
[19:20] <ikonia> and mount it on the machine with the IDE
[19:20] <cgi> ikonia, git status - takes 10 seconds plus
[19:20] <ikonia> cgi: that won't be sshfs
[19:20] <ikonia> that will be a problem with your network or server perfoamcen
[19:21] <ikonia> sshfs does not have that overhead
[19:21] <cgi> ikonia, my git is 3GB
[19:21] <ikonia> what does that mean ?
[19:21] <cgi> ikonia, the size of the repo is large
[19:21] <ikonia> so again what does that have to do with ssfs
[19:21] <ikonia> sshfs
[19:21] <cgi> ikonia, no idea why sshfs is so slow for git status
[19:22] <ikonia> cgi: sshfs does not put that sort of overhead on it
[19:22] <cgi> ikonia, https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7245837/using-git-over-sshfs-is-too-slow
[19:22] <robertparkerx> I want to upgrade my ubuntu server and ext4 but I'm being told I may need to "adjust the settings in /etc/fstab.". Can someone help me understand?
[19:22] <robertparkerx> Sorry upgrade my HDD
[19:23] <robertparkerx> or SSD lol
[19:23] <ikonia> cgi: pick a different network file system then
[19:24] <cgi> ikonia, git status = 51 seconds on a gigabit network
[19:24] <ikonia> cgi: network theoretical speed is nothing to do with real performance
[19:26] <pragmaticenigma> cgi: I think the git approach is the best at this point... no monkeying with file systems, and better yet, no issues with file permissions with mounting remote file system either
[19:26] <pragmaticenigma> robertparkerx: Are you asking about swapping your harddrive for another one?
[19:26] <robertparkerx> pragmaticenigma, no they're adding additional storage
[19:30] <ducasse> robertparkerx: connect the disk, create a partition and filesystem, and gnome disks can add it to fstab for you
[19:33] <pragmaticenigma> robertparkerx: Perhaps you need to more fully describe what it is you're doing. From what you stated, it doesn't make any sense to me
[19:36] <robertparkerx> pragmaticenigma, I have a server through hetzner in germany. They allow me to purchase additional SSD space or volumes to add to my server. I asked them about it because I was interested and they told me "you may need to adjust the settings in /etc/fstab."
[19:37] <ducasse> robertparkerx: do you currently have the storage added and need help setting it up?
[19:40] <kur1j> can someone tell me why I need to add a search domain name in my /etc/resolv.conf for it to work?
[19:41] <kur1j> for my local domain (even though my DNS server) resolves it
[19:42] <pragmaticenigma> kur1j: Is your DNS server setup to automatically resolve local machine names?
[19:44] <kur1j> pragmaticenigma: I mean on any other computer I can type <servername.mydomain.com> and it will resolve the ip
[19:44] <kur1j> so yes?
[19:46] <pragmaticenigma> is you the machine you're currently having issues actually setup to use that DNS server?
[19:47] <pragmaticenigma>  ^ ^ kur1j
[19:47] <sarnold> kur1j: copy-paste what you're trying to do and the results you get?
[19:47] <sarnold> (if it's more than two lines, a paste bin site please ;)
[19:49] <robertparkerx> ducasse, no I wanted to learn before I purchased it
[19:50] <pragmaticenigma> robertparkerx: If the provider is just allocating more space to your machine instance, there won't be anything you need to do. If they're adding another phyisical volume to your instance, then you might have to set that up, but there is no way for us to predict how that is going to work until it happens
[19:51] <pragmaticenigma> robertparkerx: Truthfully, this falls on your hosting provider to provide this kind of support and you should be asking them for help. If they don't know how or can't help you... I'd suggest finding a more competent hosting provider.
[19:52] <ducasse> robertparkerx: then i suggest you come back when you actually need help with a problem
[19:52] <robertparkerx> I don't think it is physical volumes
[19:54] <tomreyn> it will look like a physical storage to your cloud VM. hetzner will add a secondary storage, the original storage is not extended.
[19:55] <tomreyn> so you'll end up with sda (20 GB on CX11) plus the other volume you add which can range between 10 and 1024 GB.
[19:55] <tomreyn> but this is more of a topic for #hetzner
[19:55] <robertparkerx> oh wait
[19:55] <robertparkerx> I didn't know tomreyn
[19:55] <robertparkerx> I'm sorry
[19:56] <tomreyn> you'll need to create a partition table or just a single file system on it, then add any newly created file systems to fstab if you want them automounted.
[19:57] <tomreyn> no worries, I just wanted to point you to the more suitable channel for the non ubuntu configuration part.
[20:05] <mra90> my usb stick is read only (write protected) how can I chnage that?
[20:06] <tomreyn> what tells you so?
[20:06] <pavlos> mra90: what does the usb contain? do you know its filesystem?
[20:07] <mra90> pavlos, no, how can I check it?
[20:08] <pavlos> mra90: type dmesg, at the bottom you will see details of the usb
[20:09] <mra90> pavlos, I did sudo blkid /dev/sdb1
[20:09] <mra90> and it says "vfat"
[20:11] <pavlos> mra90: ok, I have a similar vfat usb, it automounts in /media/$USER/usblabel as RW. As tomreyn asked, what tells you it is RO ?
[20:12] <mra90> pavlos, from start it doesn't automount
[20:12] <mra90> I had to mount it myself
[20:12] <mra90> Now i try to copy ubuntu iso image using dd
[20:13] <mra90> and it refuse to do so since as it says its "read only filesystem"
[20:14] <mra90> any idea what is wrong?
[20:14] <ducasse> mra90: sounds like the usb stick is busted
[20:14] <ioria> mra90, unplug, replug and   ' dmesg | tail -20 | nc termbin.com 9999'
[20:17] <tomreyn> (without the single quotes)
[20:17] <mra90> ioria, dmesg says "[sdb] Write Protect is on"
[20:17] <ioria> mra90, unplug, replug and   ' dmesg | tail -20 | nc termbin.com 9999'
[20:18] <lemoldu> Hi :)
[20:18] <ioria> if it's a corporate owned usb you cannot do nothing, i'am afraid
[20:18] <mra90> ioria, no its mine
[20:18] <mra90> I can coipy onm it on windows withoput any problem,
[20:19] <ioria> the url, please
[20:19] <mra90> just a sec
[20:19] <mra90> I don't have internet on that device
[20:19] <ioria> mra90, can yoou see it in gparted ?
[20:19] <mra90> opsss
[20:20] <mra90> I have just made a test under windoiws and it also says its write protected oO
[20:20] <tomreyn> hi lemoldu - got any ubuntu support questions?
[20:20] <lemoldu> I try to make a package for my software and to upload it on launchpad ppa
[20:20] <leftyfb> mra90: open it in gparted, click on "Device" then "create partition table". Then format it.
[20:20] <lemoldu> but I have a build failure, I do not know how to solve it :(
[20:21] <lemoldu> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/464413386/buildlog_ubuntu-bionic-amd64.studmanager_0.2.1-3_BUILDING.txt.gz
[20:21] <tomreyn> lemoldu: there's #ubuntu-app-devel and #launchpad
[20:21] <lemoldu> Hi tomreyn
[20:21] <lemoldu> ok, thank you for your help, tomreyn
[20:21] <mra90> leftyfb, gpoarted doesn't see it
[20:22] <leftyfb> mra90: you don't see it as an option in the dropdown in the top-right?
[20:22] <mra90> even after I have mounted it myslef
[20:22] <ioria> mra90, on windows try this : https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001617.htm
[20:22] <mra90> if only I know where is the write protect bit located
[20:23] <leftyfb> ioria: he probably just dd'd an iso to it. That makes it R/O. It probably just needs to be repartitioned/formatted
[20:23] <ioria> leftyfb, maybe, but he says is vfat ....
[20:23] <sarnold> lemoldu: try adding 'python-minimal' to your build dependencies
[20:23] <leftyfb> ioria: you can still dd an iso with vfat as one of the filesytems and make it all R/O
[20:23] <mra90> leftyfb, this is what I want to do but I haven't even sstarted since from start it calims it is wroite protected
[20:24] <ioria> seems he never used dd yet
[20:24] <leftyfb> mra90: you have never written anything to this drive before?
[20:24] <ioria> mra90, the equivalent on linux should be sudo hdparm -r0 /dev/sdX
[20:25] <lemoldu> sarnold, really necessary ? there already is python3-pyqt5
[20:25] <mra90> ioria, I did wwhy do you think so?
[20:25] <leftyfb> ^
[20:25] <lemoldu> sarnold, I will try
[20:25] <ioria> mra90, sorry ?
[20:25] <leftyfb> "<mra90> Now i try to copy ubuntu iso image using dd"
[20:25] <sarnold> lemoldu: all I know is that in bionic the pyversions command that failed is supplied by python-minimal https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=bionic&arch=any&mode=exactfilename&searchon=contents&keywords=pyversions
[20:26] <leftyfb> mra90: can you confirm that you in fact, do not see anything related to the drive in the top right dropdown menu in gparted?
[20:26] <ioria> mra90, yep, gparted is a test
[20:26] <ioria> mra90, if you can recreate the partition table, we are good
[20:27] <mra90> ioria, leftyfb in gparted I only see two partitions sda1 (boot) and sda2 (/)
[20:27] <mra90> thats all
[20:27] <ioria> mra90, ok, that's not the case
[20:27] <leftyfb> mra90: no, don't look at partitions. In the top-right in that entire gparted window, there's a dropdown menu. Do you see it?
[20:27] <mra90> I also tried sudo hdparm -ro on that device and it says setting readonly to 0 (of)
[20:27] <ioria> mra90, what sudo parted -l says ?
[20:27] <mra90> however I still can not copy
[20:28] <ioria> mra90, oh, yes you have to look at the right side at top ...
[20:28] <mra90> ioria, sudo parted -l DOES see this USB stick! :)
[20:29] <mra90> ahh yes it is also in gpparted but not where you said
[20:29] <mra90> I had to switch device on a drop down menu./..
[20:29] <ioria> mra90, ok, what you see ?
[20:29] <ioria> that's for sure
[20:29] <mra90> anyway I  wonder why hdparm -r0 didn't help?
[20:30] <ioria> mra90, do you see the usb in gparted or not ?
[20:30] <mra90> I see this usb stick with fat32 file system
[20:30] <mra90> all properities of it are fine
[20:30] <ioria> mra90, yes or no ?
[20:30] <leftyfb> mra90: click on "Device" at the top, then click on "Create Partition Table"
[20:31] <celphi> Can someone help me setup my usb-c monitor? It's not registering as connected when i use xrandr command
[20:31] <mra90> ioria, YES I do
[20:31] <leftyfb> mra90: click on "Device" at the top, then click on "Create Partition Table"
[20:31] <ioria> mra90, do what leftyfb said
[20:32] <mra90> leftyfb, it says I can not create a new  one snce some are actie nbow
[20:32] <leftyfb> mra90: you need to unmount it
[20:32] <mra90>  "1 partition is currently active on it"
[20:32] <leftyfb> mra90: use the "umount" command in a terminal
[20:32] <ioria> mra90, right click on it
[20:32] <leftyfb> or that
[20:32] <mra90> DOne
[20:32] <mra90> now it says it will erase all data on it
[20:33] <ioria> sure
[20:33] <leftyfb> mra90: isn't that what you want?
[20:33] <mra90> what partition table should I choose from?yes it is
[20:33] <leftyfb> mra90: pick DOS
[20:33] <leftyfb> mra90: should be default
[20:33] <ioria> modos
[20:33] <mra90> msdos rather
[20:33] <mra90> why this one?
[20:33] <ioria> *msdos
[20:33] <leftyfb> mra90: because that is the correct one for filesystems compatible with Windows machines as well as linux
[20:34] <mra90> ok fine
[20:34] <ioria> mra90, common use on usb removable; but you can set GPT
[20:34] <mra90> buu iot failed ;(
[20:34] <leftyfb> mra90: with what error? Please screenshot or pastebin
[20:35] <mra90> "Can't write to /deb/sdb/, because its opened read-only."
[20:35] <mra90> thats the error message
[20:35] <mra90> nothing more nothing less
[20:35] <leftyfb> mra90: can you screenshot it please?
[20:36] <ioria> mra90, mount | grep sdb
[20:36] <pavlos> mra90: earlier, we asked to unplug, replug and look at the bottom of dmesg. If Write protect is ON, something is going on ...
[20:37] <mra90> yes  it is write protected from start
[20:37] <mra90> mount | grep sdb returns nothing
[20:37] <mra90> I umounted it ealier after all...
[20:37] <ioria> mra90, doeas it have a switch ? no ? back to first link i posted you
[20:41] <mra90> here is the dmesg output right after  I plug it  in -> https://pastebin.com/s2QTXBt3
[20:41] <mra90> there is of course no mechanical switch or sth
[20:42] <leftyfb> "[  +0,000459] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is on"
[20:42] <ioria> we know that
[20:42] <leftyfb> mra90: what model USB drive is it?
[20:43] <mra90> leftyfb, you have it in dmesg output too
[20:43] <mra90> PGI
[20:44] <kur1j> sarnold: its just my IP address as my DNS server and when I ping mymachine.mylocaldomain.com it just says "Name or service not known"
[20:45] <kur1j> pinging google.com works
[20:45] <kur1j> this is squarely on resolved
[20:45] <kur1j> because things seem to work under 16.04
[20:46] <pavlos> kur1j: does "ping mymachine" work?
[20:46] <kur1j> no
[20:46] <kur1j> I give it the fully qualified domain
[20:48] <danes> hello, Im by no means expert and this is a newbie question. I dont know how to phrase it on google and I am running on circles. Im sure its easy. The issue is I need to use a scanner with iscan. Drivers are installed. If I run it in root mode it detects the scanner and I can use it. If run normally I get error "could not send command to scanner.
[20:48] <danes> Check the scanner status". I think I just need to add the scanner as root in a group but I dont know how.
[20:48] <kur1j> https://gist.github.com/vaskokj/b007e739ad181a2c9ac515da9f18370b
[20:49] <sarnold> danes: try adduser danes scanner  then log out, log in, try again?
[20:49] <sarnold> $ host sub1.mylocaldomain.com
[20:49] <sarnold> Host sub1.mylocaldomain.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[20:49] <sarnold> kur1j: looks like your domain may be busted
[20:49] <kur1j> sarnold: its not its local
[20:50] <kur1j> none of its public
[20:50] <sarnold> kur1j: then pick something other than .com for your local domain
[20:50] <pavlos> kur1j: can you change your domain to just "mylocal"
[20:51] <kur1j> sarnold: that ship has failed
[20:51] <kur1j> sailed
[20:51] <pavlos> kur1j: then ping mymachine.mylocal
[20:51] <sarnold> I suspect that ship has also failed :)
[20:52] <kur1j> the only thing _not_ working is ubuntu when a VPN is up
[20:52] <kur1j> ubuntu broke this with systemd
[20:52] <kur1j> and I can't tell what the hell its doing
[20:55] <pavlos> kur1j: nslookup mymachine.mylocal <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:56] <kur1j> https://gist.github.com/vaskokj/127f52a5ad7b661700076ab9cd1c17fe
[20:56] <kur1j> works
[20:56] <sarnold> kur1j: a friend says "the only sane thing to do is own a domain", but if that is impossible for some reason, home.arpa does exist for records not intending to be published https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8375
[20:57] <pavlos> kur1j: is ipa your DNS ? it should be another system ... at the very bootom of the output, it shows that ipa is .26 (which is your DNS)
[20:58] <kur1j> pavlos: correct its resolving the IPA servers ip address
[20:59] <pavlos> kur1j: we want to resolve mymachine which should have a diff ip
[20:59] <kur1j> https://gist.github.com/vaskokj/cf66ae64cd65e1eac65332cc1d96e493
[20:59] <kur1j> all that tells me is that DNS is working fine
[20:59] <kur1j> the machine itself isn't resolving
[21:00] <kur1j> correctly via its systemd-resolved
[21:00] <pavlos> kur1j: ping r2d2 does not work?
[21:00] <kur1j> pavlos: correct
[21:01] <kur1j> https://gist.github.com/vaskokj/e7fe2492619c70d86bee39d706d2b46b
[21:01] <pavlos> kur1j: what is the search line in /etc/resolv.conf ... (it should be mydomain.com
[21:01] <pavlos> kur1j: what is the search line in /etc/resolv.conf ... (it should be mylocaldomain.com
[21:02] <kur1j> pavlos: https://gist.github.com/vaskokj/f388dcd7051943b528a0af41f838659d
[21:03] <kur1j> but that was kind of my original question...why does it even need the search path anyways
[21:07] <pavlos> kur1j: I think on the server.conf of your vpn, you need to specify the domain and DNS entries
[21:07] <kur1j> yeah, I already did
[21:07] <kur1j> they show up properly in my search domains on all other systems
[21:07] <kur1j> but not on 18.04
[21:07] <kur1j> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1726124
[21:21] <ekaj> Anyone happen to know the easiest way to install mysql on an airgapped box that I can move files to, it just doesn't have internet? I have tried moving the mysql.deb, but then it fails on all of the dependencies
[21:21] <mra90> what could cause this permament write protect on my usb stick?
[21:21] <mra90> ekaj -> #mysql
[21:23] <pavlos> mra90: any chance you can reboot your system and try that usb stick again? it does not make sense to be RO
[21:23] <sarnold> ekaj: take a look at this package apt-offline - offline APT package manager
[21:25] <mra90> pavlos, but even windows says it is write protected
[21:26] <pavlos> mra90: can you try another usb stick? this particular usb might be toast (bad)
[21:27] <mra90> pavlos, yes other one wworks fine
[21:27] <pavlos> mra90: so this particular usb is bad
[21:28] <pavlos> mra90: it happens
[21:28] <mra90> but what could happen
[21:28] <pavlos> mra90: electronic components fail ...
[21:31] <sarnold> or it may have a 'write protect' switch somewhere
[21:31] <sarnold> pop the cover off and look?
[21:33] <mra90> sarnold, nothing like that
[21:33] <bprompt> ekaj:  only way I can think of, run the -> sudo apt-get download mysql; <- get all those .deb files, you'd have missing dependencies, and you'd need to get them one by one, just get a list of what's needed, and download them the same way
[21:35] <Intelo> How can I compare dell M6700 laptop and Lenovo-ThinkCentre-M81-SFF-PC-Intel-Core-i5-2400
[21:35] <Intelo> for which will ubuntu run faster?
[21:45] <westor> Q: how can i find my bindip ?
[21:49] <sarnold> Intelo: if you can find out which processors both have, which memories both have, which storage options both have, which gpus both have, you can probably find reviews of those individual components on eg toms hardware or anandtech or similar sites
[21:50] <sarnold> Intelo: this is handy for finding specific CPU benchmarks, but there's a lot more than just cpu speed that goes into computer benchmarking https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
[21:50] <sarnold> westor: ip a   ?
[21:50] <leftyfb> westor: in what context?
[21:54] <mra90> I chenged boot order in bios to boot from usb device but instead  it shows me shell>
[21:54] <mra90> how can I choose right boot option from that shell
[21:55] <mra90> I try to do help | less but it says too many arguments
[21:55] <mra90> ;/
[21:55] <Intelo> sarnold, ok
[21:57] <mra90> ok I figured out that in order to scroll I need to use pageUp/down
[21:58] <mra90> but now how can I choose boot device being in uefi shell?
[22:02] <sorin-mihai> mra90, dmesg should give you some hints why the ro mount. i hope you have a backup
[22:07] <sorin-mihai> mra90, are you able to reboot and get to a system boot menu with F11 or or in some BIOS/UEFI setup with F2, DEL? depends on the system, but if you get to a boot menu or to a setup menu, bios/uefi, maybe you can overwrite the boot order or at least check that you have a boot entry that is actually trying to load a kernel/os. being dropped to the uefi shell means the system, didn't find a boot partition in the 1st place, either because
[22:07] <sorin-mihai> it's broken, or not usable
[22:14] <mra90> sorin-mihai, problem  is fixed thanks :)
[22:38] <mort> I'm using eoan-proposed. Apparently, the x86_64 libc6 package has been upgraded to version 2.30-0ubuntu2.1, but the libc6:i386 package is still on 2.30-0ubuntu2, so things are a bit confused
[23:03] <veebox> hey guys im sure missing the wobbly windows and stuff from 16.04(compiz i think).  what derivative of ubuntu still has it in 18.04 and 20.04? mint?
[23:21] <asarch> Any Electrical engineer around?
[23:21] <djapo> hello im trying to loop over files with spaces in their names with ls -c --reverse
[23:22] <djapo> but i am not getting the full name in the loop
[23:22] <djapo> I tried http://dpaste.com/3DHF59H but than i no longer have access to the original file name and cannot rename
[23:25] <djapo> any ideas? might also be helpful if i  could sort find ./ by ctime
[23:27] <leftyfb> !ot | asarch
[23:27] <asarch> Thank you!
[23:27] <leftyfb> djapo: use find
[23:28] <asarch> Sorry for my mistake
[23:29] <leftyfb> djapo: try quotes around "f". Or ask in #bash
[23:29] <leftyfb> djapo: you might also try xargs
[23:30] <sarnold> djapo: whatever you're trying to do you're probably doing it wrong
[23:30] <sarnold> ha, after looking at the pastebin I've got even less idea of what you're trying to do :)
[23:30] <djapo> great, i already knew that what i was trying to do wasn't working
[23:31] <sarnold> djapo: the usual better approaches are to use find . -type f -execdir ... or mmv or rename.pl
[23:31] <djapo> yes, but i want to sequential name them based on their ctime
[23:32] <djapo> and i want to also remove ' ' with '_'
[23:33] <leftyfb> djapo: you want #bash
[23:33] <djapo> this is probably clearer http://dpaste.com/17FXSQ8
[23:33] <djapo> ok, ill try there
[23:34] <sarnold> my first thought is that it'd be easier to do this in two passes -- first, remove whitespace, second, do the ctime thing
[23:37] <djapo> i got it, http://dpaste.com/012TT3C thought i would need to escape white spacec but i guess that's not a thing if i get the name from a variable
[23:38] <sarnold> djapo: probably line 8 needs it too :)
[23:38] <sarnold> mv "$filename" "$new_name"


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[06:20] <Werner> Hey there. FWIW initramfs-tools (including core and bin) LATER THAN 0.142ubuntu20 breaking dropbear integration. It fails with "Couldn't find ~root, SSH login to initramfs won't work!" Downgrade to 0.142ubuntu20 fixes this.
[15:46] <ogra_> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2024-March/042954.html
[15:53] <lotus|NUC> networking is down after noble updates
[15:54] <lotus|NUC> cant get into wifi nor eth anymore
[15:57] <lotus|NUC> think its an issue with network manager
[15:59] <ogra_> lotus|NUC, see what i just pasted ...
[15:59] <ogra_> might be that NM got removed
[15:59] <ravage> he saw it too late 😄
[15:59] <lotus|NUC> yeah i see that now, lol
[16:00] <ravage> but then that should be fixed by reinstall on ubuntu-desktop?
[16:00] <lotus|NUC> but without networking that could be hard
[16:00] <ravage> if its only the network manager try dhcp on the console
[16:01] <ravage> dhclient <your network interface>
[16:01] <ravage> (wired interface)
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> tnx ravage
[16:05] <ravage> welcome back 🙂
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> now network-manager gives a depend
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> network-manager : Vereisten: libnetplan1 (>= 0.106) maar het is niet installeerbaar
[16:05] <lotuspsychje>                    Aanbevelingen: network-manager-pptp maar het zal niet geïnstalleerd worden
[16:06] <ravage> if you do not use any vpn maybe removing network-manager-pptp could help. but that should not happen like this of course
[16:06] <schopin> dist-upgrade in Noble is currently a bad idea fwiw.
[16:07] <schopin> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2024-March/042954.html
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> ok, so lets wait it out till fixed
[16:07] <schopin> libnetplan1 is part of the aforementioned transition.
[16:07] <ravage> i was lucky on my workstation. will not stretch it and try on my laptop too 🙂
[16:08] <ravage> waiting sounds like a good plan
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> ping me when it rains gold ok im going to the couch :p
[16:53] <elhoir> hello folks,
[16:54] <elhoir> i have just updated sources via apt update, because i am facing the mesa bug with radeon driver
[16:54] <elhoir> the pint is, all required packages seem to be downloadable and in place, but apt still throws a dependency error
[16:54] <elhoir> could anyone help?
[17:00] <leftyfb> elhoir: I might not be able to help, but I would start with posting the complete commands you are running and the resulting error messages to pastebin and post the pastebin URL here
[17:00] <elhoir> sure
[17:01] <elhoir> https://pastebin.com/f3rcs99U
[17:01] <elhoir> i installed mesa packages manualli with dpkg -i
[17:01] <elhoir> manually
[17:02] <leftyfb> !next | elhoir
[17:03] <elhoir> errr... i am at #ubuntu-next, isnt it?
[17:03] <leftyfb> ugh, sorry. My bad
[17:03] <elhoir> xd
[17:03] <leftyfb> thought I was in #ubuntu lol
[17:03] <elhoir> np :)
[17:04] <elhoir> can anyone help plzzzzz
[17:12] <oerheks> mesa from our repos? https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=mesa&searchon=names&suite=noble&section=all
[17:12] <oerheks> 24.0.3
[17:13] <elhoir> yeah
[17:13] <elhoir> i installed packages manually
[17:13] <elhoir> the point is that apt still complains about missing dependencies
[17:13] <elhoir> andi dont know why
[17:14] <oerheks> apt install -f ?
[17:15] <elhoir> doesnt help
[17:15] <rfm> well, it's looking for the i386 packages, while you show the amd84 packages installed.
 dist-upgrade in Noble is currently a bad idea fwiw.
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2024-March/042954.html
[17:16] <elhoir> oerheks, https://pastebin.com/Ubkqykxd
[17:17] <elhoir> rfm where??
[17:18] <rfm> line 9 of the first pastebin
[17:20] <elhoir> frm - i saw - but i386 packages are available too --> https://pastebin.com/h3UpeAaA
[17:22] <elhoir> maybe the point are these lines? ---->  https://pastebin.com/1qw1jrtG  << "rompe" is the spanish word for "breaks">>
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/2059651
[18:11] -ubottu:#ubuntu-next- Launchpad bug 2059651 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "network-manager gets uninstalled on apt full-upgrade" [High, Confirmed]
[21:02] <ravage> 347 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
[21:02] <ravage> i am scared 😄
[21:03] <oerheks> not using dist-upgrade, i hope?
[21:03] <ravage> i used nothing so far
[21:03] <oerheks> or wait , full-upgrade
[21:04] <ravage> will run my borg backup script first
[21:04] <ravage> so i can revert it
[21:26] <elhoir> hello, could anyone help? i cannot update mesa packages due to some dependency problem, but i cant locate it
[21:26] <elhoir> apt --f install does not solve the problem
[21:27] <ravage> try again tomorrow. the package status is a mess at the moment because of a big migration
[21:27] <elhoir> oh
[21:27] <elhoir> okay
[21:27] <elhoir> thank you
[21:27] <ravage> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2024-March/042954.html
[21:28] <elhoir> but i even can not apt upgrade, i have broken packages
[21:29] <elhoir> may the the same problem?
[21:29] <ravage> yes
[21:30] <elhoir> okay thank you, i will wait few days
[21:46] <mcphail> Hi. Today's updates seem to have broken libvirt-daemon due to unmet dependencies. Is this likely to be borked for a while? 24.04 had been going brilliantly up until now :)
[21:47] <ravage> see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2024-March/042954.html
[21:47] <elhoir> i think my problem is with "t64" sh*t
[21:48] <elhoir> lelts ginve Canonical 2 or 3 days
[21:48] <elhoir> give*
[21:50] <mcphail> Nice to know I'm not the only one :)
[21:55] <elhoir> hehe, we are the brave ones! xD


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