[15:41] <alee_dmi> any one from indonesia?
[15:41] <wols> chraso: is something like xgl running?
[15:41] <jpg> wols, i've been using this synaptic autoupdate and now it just quits with an error, saying use "sudo ap-get install -f" to fix errors, but it doesn't fix anything, only quits with this error message: "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mono-xsp_1.2.4-1.1ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack):". I've got  Ubuntu 7.10, Kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
[15:41] <Pici> !id | alee_dmi
[15:41] <pidix> how can i add a user to a group?
[15:41] <ubotu> alee_dmi: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[15:41] <jrib> pidix: system -> administration -> users and groups
[15:41] <chraso> what if yes?
[15:42] <pidix> i haven't got graphical interface
[15:42] <alee_dmi> any one from indonesia?
[15:42] <pidix> i use ubuntu server
[15:42] <pidix> only with command line
[15:42] <ubuntu> hi
[15:42] <pteague_work> is there a way to get aptitude to list all of the installed packages?
[15:42] <wols> chraso: that modem is a winmodem. good luck there
[15:42] <jrib> pidix: adduser USER GROUP
[15:42] <malin> i'll try to get some more info about that dhclient, brb
[15:42] <RoAkSoAx> pidix, gpasswd -a user group
[15:42] <chraso> i think its because i used the proprietory driver i installed that came with the fiesty dvd
[15:42] <pidix> but the user already exists
[15:42] <pidix> ...
[15:42] <Pici> pteague_work: theres dpkg -l
[15:42] <pteague_work> pidix> adduser --help :)
[15:42] <pidix> thanks
[15:42] <jrib> pidix: so?
[15:42] <pidix> ok ok
[15:42] <chraso> what a luck yaar
[15:42] <RoAkSoAx> pidix, do this: gpasswd -a Username Group
[15:43] <wols> jpg: delete the file in  /var/cache/apt/archives/mono-xsp_1.2.4-1.1ubuntu1_all.deb
[15:43] <Pici> pidix: adduser user group will add the user to a group if the user already exists
[15:43] <alee_dmi> ada yang dari indonesia ga' :-)
[15:43] <wols> jpg: and paste the FULL output of apt-get
[15:43] <pidix> ok Pici thanks
[15:43] <chraso> so that means now lin driver avail. for the mod?
[15:43] <Pici> alee_dmi: join #ubuntu-id for indonesia
[15:43] <wols> alee_dmi: english only. do you have a ubuntu related question?
[15:43] <pidix> thanks to all
[15:43] <pidix> :-)
[15:43] <alee_dmi> tank's
[15:43] <pteague_work> Pici> thanks... guess i can still parse that & figure out what to remove
[15:44] <Pici> pteague_work: You could also use the aptitude front-end
[15:44] <alnokta_> wols, who decided #ubuntu to be an english only channel?
[15:44] <Pici> pteague_work: just run it with no arguments.
[15:44] <pteague_work> pici> yeah, but i was hoping to use grep on it to see what was auto installed
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> alnokta_: it is and has been english only
[15:44] <pteague_work> iA blah ...
[15:45] <wols> alnokta_: no use talking other languages. would be a veritable babel
[15:45] <syc0> Ubuntu users cannot watch Divx files?
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !divx
[15:45] <dfgas> any winterm pros here? i am wondering do they make a xdmcp addon that i can install?
[15:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:45] <syc0> :-O
[15:45] <wols> dfgas: ask winterm support (whatever that is=
[15:45] <Pici> dfgas: Is that a linux program?
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> syc0: that bot is so very helpful
[15:46] <jpg> wols, with what command you can manually remove files in linux, sorry i'm a newbie...:|
[15:46] <syc0> Nice
[15:46] <wols> jpg: rm
[15:46] <alnokta_> Jack_Sparrow, then it was never decided..hence no need to restrict languages here. its ubuntu with no prefix, humanity to others for god's sake.
[15:46] <RoAkSoAx> jpg, rm filename
[15:46] <wols> alnokta_: irc is not a democracy...
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> alnokta_: that is Offtopic.. and we have a channel for that too
[15:47] <alnokta_> wols, then don't tell people to shutup and speak a certain language.
[15:47] <Pici> alnokta_: We can discuss this in #ubuntu-offtopic if you like.
[15:47] <RoAkSoAx> jpg, rm -rf foldername    -- (If that folder has files and folders)
[15:47] <wols> alnokta_: I will always cause it's channel policy
[15:47] <Pici> alnokta_: Where do you see that?
[15:47] <wols> Pici: I told the indonesian "english only"
[15:47] <alnokta_> Jack_Sparrow, it is not, its about the operation of the channel, i can certainly understand if you say don't speak other languages in #ubuntu-en or us
[15:48] <jpg> wols, ok, it worked. now i'll try this apt-get install again?
[15:48] <wols> jpg: sure
[15:48] <alnokta_> Pici, saw it a couple of times in the last hours.
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> alnokta_: what part of offtopic are you not understanding
[15:48] <RoAkSoAx> alnokta_, it is not only channel only policy, is hole ubuntu policy that should be in english, and that is why there are local communities so that they can spread the word in their own language
[15:48] <Pici> alnokta_: This is very offtopic, please lets go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:48] <Pici> alnokta_: i.e. not a support question.
[15:49] <Desolator> well, why does ubuntu disable root by default and require the user to use sudo?
[15:49] <Pici> !sudo | Desolator please read
[15:49] <ubotu> Desolator please read: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[15:49] <wols> !sudo
[15:49] <syc0> !sudo
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> alnokta_: FYI.. I dont see where ANYONE told you to shutup as you wrote
[15:49] <lmosher> I can't get my microphone working w/ scype.  Has anyone had and fixed this problem?
[15:49] <Pici> !offtopic | all
[15:49] <ubotu> all: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:49] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: I told the indonesian to talk english only which alnokta_ in here took offense with
[15:49] <syc0> lmosher recheck your mic settings
[15:49] <lmosher> I can't get my microphone working at all, I should say. I'm trying to use skype, but skype is not the issue, mic doesn't work with everything
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Desolator: To protect the users from themselves.. If they know enough to set the root password.. they know enough to avboid trouble
[15:50] <lmosher> syc0, Volume up, mic selected. If I hit test in sound preferences I get the error: Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc !
[15:50] <syc0> Hmm soundcard issue? Try using a USB Micraphne headset, purhaps the soundcard settings are bunk
[15:50] <jpg> wols, it says (in finnish) that i have to remove "mono-xsp-base mono-xsp" by using "apt-get autoremove" funktion, should i try that?
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> wols: I understand that, but he said he was told to shutup.. which would be rude.. which you were not
[15:50] <syc0> !mic
[15:50] <Desolator> Every cracker trying to brute-force their way into your box will know it has an account named root and will try that first.  Since the root account password is locked, this attack becomes essentially meaningless, since there is no password to crack or guess in the first place. --> that's covering a big problem: if the hacker is in your system he knows your current password and he just ru
[15:50] <syc0> !soundcard
[15:50] <wols> jpg: export LANG=C
[15:50] <lmosher> Issue is I need to use my mic now. Everything else on the sound card works fine. I need to conf. call w/ a colleage in Germany soon... :/
[15:50] <Pici> !sound > syc0 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[15:51] <wols> jpg: then run the apt-get command again. it will now talk english
[15:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundcard - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:51] <syc0> !sound > lmosher
[15:51] <dadehoog> Desolator: sorry, your comments got cut off there ...
[15:51] <Desolator> that's covering a big problem: if the hacker is in your system he knows your current password and he just runs "sudo rm -R *" and enters your password. How secure is that? 7% of all compromised GNU/Linux PCs run Ubuntu >.>
[15:51] <syc0> umd.edu is that umass dartmouth
[15:51] <wols> Desolator: no cracker ever will cause all reasonable distros have root logins disabled by default. not to mention he will know by fingerprinting what OS you run
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Desolator: That conversation needs to move to offtopic as it isnt a support question
[15:52] <jpg> wols, it says, Reading package lists... Done
[15:52] <jpg> Building dependency tree
[15:52] <jpg> Reading state information... Done
[15:52] <jpg> Correcting dependencies... Done
[15:52] <jpg> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[15:52] <jpg>   mono-xsp-base mono-xsp
[15:52] <Desolator> ok
[15:52] <dadehoog> Desolator: it's no different to someone knowing the root password ...
[15:52] <jpg> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[15:52] <Pici> !paste | jpg
[15:52] <jpg> The following extra packages will be installed:
[15:52] <wols> jpg: do not DO that
[15:52] <ubotu> jpg: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:52] <jpg>   mono-xsp
[15:52] <Desolator> !paste > jpg
[15:52] <jpg> The following packages will be upgraded:
[15:52] <jpg>   mono-xsp
[15:52] <jpg> 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 180 not upgraded.
[15:52] <Pici> !paste > jpg (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[15:52] <Desolator> Pici: I sent him one already
[15:53] <Pici> Desolator: ah, missed it.
[15:53] <chraso> >wols< is it the proprietory driver causing the problem?
[15:53] <drgeb> Hi I have installed alsa-driver-1.0.15 inside a separate directory at /usr/local/alsa-1.0.15 How can my system recognize this ? Which PATH or LD_LIBPATH variables do I have to update  ?>
[15:53] <Pici> wols: Warning them in the middle doesn't help. Their buffer is busy pasting stuff so they don't have any control over what happens.
[15:53] <wols> chraso: usually yes since it can't do AIGLX and xserver-xgl is needed which has its own can of worms
[15:53] <Pici> wols: Best to just give them the !paste
[15:53] <wols> chraso: additionally your X200 might even be on the compiz blacklist
[15:53] <lmosher> syc0, After a google search it looks like gnome broke mic recording for many, many people in gutsy. Haven't seen a solution yet, so I might be SOL
[15:54] <wols> Pici: best to do what you did, just faster
[15:54] <wols> when the paste starts they can't stop it
[15:54] <Pici> wols: indeed
[15:54] <chraso> >wols< no its supported. actually i found on the web that must use the proprietory driver for compiz for good performance
[15:55] <wols> chraso: yes, but you must also use xserver-xgl antil ati gets their homework done
[15:55] <jpg> wols, i pasted apt-get install to this pastebin
[15:56] <chraso> so u mean to say that part in xorg.conf?
[15:56] <wols> jpg: that's nice but you didn't gave us the url for it
[15:56] <wols> chraso: no
[15:56] <wols> !xgl
[15:56] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[15:56] <ljcasey> Does anyone here use pro/engineer?
[15:56] <syc0> lmosher hrm,.. u can try by downloading a LIVE cd, and rebooting with that, and installing skype
[15:56] <wols> !anyone | ljcasey
[15:56] <ubotu> ljcasey: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[15:56] <syc0> if u need to do it asap, i mean, thats the only thing i can think of, or run to the library
[15:57] <jpg> wols, oh sorry. here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49030/
[15:57] <lmosher> syc0, hmmm ok that might work for now, thanks for the suggestion, I heard it wasn't an issue in fiesty so I'll use my old fiesty cd. thanks.
[15:57] <wols> jpg: no need to autoremove. just try installing it
[15:57] <wols> jpg: and if any error happes pastebin the full output again
[15:58] <jpg> wols, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49031/
[15:59] <ljcasey> I use compiz, my 3d cad software (pro/engineer) will not launch in compiz, only metacity. Can someone paste me a clean script that will switch to metacity, launch pro/e then switch back to compiz? Mine dosnt seem to work properly
[16:00] <KNRO> hello, anyone knows if Build-Depends in a .dsc file means the dependencies of this package, or what packages are required in order for it to be built?
[16:00] <jrib> ljcasey: someone in #compiz-fusion may have one
[16:00] <ljcasey> jrib, thanks i'll try there
[16:01] <wols> jpg: badly written mono-xsp startup script or config script. is mono-xsp running right now?
[16:01] <jpg> wols, hope not :) where do i check it?
[16:01] <wols> KNRO: build-deps are the packages (usually -dev packages) needed to build the binary .deb from the source
[16:02] <chraso> >wols< as on compiz.org/ATI
[16:02] <wols> jpg: ps aux maybe. I stay away from mono as far as possible. has a MS _and_ Icaza stench
[16:02] <Christina18> Hi, how come that in the ESSID selector for wireless lan, a new SSID has suddenly appeared? It used to be only "dlink", but now there is one additional,  "linksys". ??
[16:02] <syc0> wow
[16:02] <syc0> ubuntu is actually fixing itself
[16:03] <wols> Christina18: someone powered up an AP in the vicinity of you
[16:03] <Pici> Christina18: Perhaps you have a new neighbor with an AP?
[16:04] <Christina18> pici: i have no idea. Can they access my comp if I have no password between the comp and the wireless router?
[16:04] <jpg> wols, accoring "ps aux" i think its running
[16:04] <wols> KNRO: do you run ubuntu or debian?
[16:04] <Christina18> pici: and how do i identify it or remove it?
[16:04] <jpg> wols, how do i shut it down, or how can i unstart it in start up?
[16:05] <wols> jpg: paste the line (one line only) which you think is the mono-xsp
[16:05] <jpg> wols, www-data  5392  0.0  0.7  21016  8172 ?        Sl   17:28   0:00 /usr/bin/mono /
[16:05] <Pici> Christina18: You dont. And they can't access your computer.  Its just like putting a radio into scan mode and having it pick up different stations.  A new station just came on the air and you can listen to it (or connect to it).  They cannot connect to you.
[16:05] <wols> jpg: /etc/init.d/<mono-xsp or such> stop
[16:06] <wols> if that doesn't work: killall /usr/bin/mono
[16:06] <sunogbaga> Christina18, you do not need to remove it(i think).. it's just there to give you another option
[16:06] <Pici> Christina18: And it being listed there does not mean that you are connected to it, its just a choice.
[16:06] <wols> Christina18: do you use any encrption on your AP? WPA maybe?
[16:07] <Christina18> Pici: ok, so nothing to worry or care about in other words ?
[16:08] <Pici> Christina18: Well.. if you have no password to the router, then there is a certain amount of risk you are.. well.. risking.  But thats a different issue.
[16:08] <Christina18> Pici: okay, thanks.
[16:08] <wols> Christina18: do you use any form of encryption? if so which one?
[16:09] <Guest16155> hello, i have apache server with script that helping students with mathematical calculation and i would like to know how much users can use my server at the same time ? does there is some software for users simulation?
[16:09] <jpg> wols, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49035/
[16:09] <jpg> ps aux
[16:09] <jpg> sorry :(
[16:09] <malin> wols, that's my dhclient eth0: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49036/
[16:10] <wols> jpg: so it's stopped
[16:10] <Christina18> wols: not sure, because "Enable roaming mode" is checked, which means the other settings are grayed out/inactive. What's a terminal command to make sure?
[16:10] <eddy_> Help!  Everytime I go away my monitor blanks & then my comp freezes.  I tried turning this off in screensavers & power settings but it never stops!
[16:10] <jpg> wols, with killall yes
[16:10] <SpookyET> Is anyone using Firefox 3 Beta 2? Does it crash if you view a page with embedded Totem? For me, it crashes.
[16:11] <jpg> wols, do i now start again this apt-get install?
[16:11] <sunogbaga> Guest16155 .. youre the one setting up the maximum connections for apache
[16:11] <wols> Christina18: iwconfig I guess
[16:11] <wols> jpg: you can try. and hope for the best
[16:12] <Christina18> wols: no mention of encryption there
[16:12] <sunogbaga> Christina18 i think its a router option
[16:13] <Guest16155> sunogbaga: i didnt understand
[16:13] <wols> yes, you can see in your router too
[16:13] <KNRO> wols: building for Ubuntu, it's Depends, just found out
[16:13] <wols> Christina18: thing is, if there is no encryption, everyone with a wlan card can use your AP and surf under your internet IP. if they do something criminal, the police will first knock on your door
[16:14] <soroush> hi, i installed some backport packages on my ubuntu-ume and its  network doesn't work anymore
[16:14] <soroush> how can i uninstall them
[16:14] <soroush> using apt-get --remove it says
[16:14] <sunogbaga> Guest16155.. i mean.. youre the apache administrator... you were the one who set up the maximum number of clients apache will handle at the same time
[16:14] <wols> soroush: pastebin
[16:14] <Christina18> wols: ok, I will try enable WEP or WPA
[16:14] <Barry1> is wvdial part of the ubuntu 7.10 server distrib?
[16:14] <soroush> they are in use and can't be logged
[16:15] <rcomalta___> i have server version ubuto how can i do it with gui
[16:15] <wols> Christina18: no wep if you can help it. WEP is crackable very easily
[16:15] <soroush> wols, * locked
[16:15] <rcomalta___> can some help me
[16:15] <jpg> wols, thanks now i autoremoved this mono-xsp totally and it worked and now this synaptic upgrade systems seems to work. Should I now, before I update anything remove this mono-stuff?
[16:15] <sunogbaga> Guest16155.. take a look at httpd.conf.. its maxclients or something similar
[16:15] <neverblue> Christina18, use WPA instead or WEP
[16:15] <soroush> i'm in ubuntu-generic now
[16:15] <wols> jpg: no. upgrade should work fine
[16:15] <Pici> rcomalta___: Whats the question?
[16:15] <dmacnutt> http://www.howtoforge.com/snapshot-backups-with-timevault-ubuntu-7.10
[16:15] <malin> wols, any idea on the problem?
[16:16] <rcomalta___> pici i have server ubutu there is any one to make it with descotop
[16:16] <Pici> dmacnutt: hm?
[16:16] <wols> soroush: what is locked exactly? and what are you trying to install or upgrade? which package
[16:16] <jpg> wols, ok. Thanks! :D
[16:16] <Pici> rcomalta___: Sure. `apt-get install ubuntu-desktop`
[16:16] <dmacnutt> Pici: wrong channel sorry
[16:16] <wols> malin: seems you get a IP? 10.1.1.x?
[16:16] <linux4me> i just created a new partition using gparted but only root had access, how can i change the permissions on this partition?
[16:16] <cappiz> someone knows how i can get into my desktop with VNC? im all remote
[16:16] <syc0> hey guys and girls
[16:16] <syc0> i just want to say thanks again
[16:16] <syc0> for all the help
[16:16] <malin> wols, yup
[16:16] <Bilder> hi
[16:17] <Bilder> jo
[16:17] <Bilder> ojk]
[16:17] <Bilder> kopikbnj
[16:17] <wols> malin: so you have a IP, what's the problem?
[16:17] <Pici> Bilder: stop
[16:17] <syc0> and next time i talk, ill keep it on a single line,. btw i successfully upgraded dapper to gutsy
[16:17] <wols> linux4me: what filesystem on the new partition?
[16:17] <Lacrymology> is there an easy way of getting my machine specifications?
[16:17] <malin> wols, the internet connection is not working, not responding to ping, not loading any pages, i have nothing
[16:17] <Lacrymology> like, processor, RAM, OS, etc
[16:18] <linux4me> wols - ext2, mount options rw nosuid nodev (from disk properties)
[16:18] <wols> malin: output or /sbin/ifconfig  route and cat /etc/resolv.conf please. in a pastebin. when you have the 10.1.1.x IP assigned
[16:18] <Slart> Lacrymology: look in synaptic for system info .. there are a few choices.. lshw is one.. can't remember the names of the others
[16:18] <wols> linux4me: mountpoint permissions?
[16:18] <rcomalta___> how can i go to root
[16:18] <jpg> exit
[16:18] <reverseblade> wow Skype Video works on ubuntu
[16:18] <Pici> rcomalta___: use sudo
[16:18] <Pici> !sudo | rcomalta___
[16:18] <ubotu> rcomalta___: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[16:19] <sunogbaga> !su | rcomalta___
[16:19] <Barry1> network | barry
[16:19] <Barry1> !nework | Barry1
[16:19] <linux4me> wols - under the drive and volumes tab, mount point,file system, and mount options are all blank
[16:19] <cocox> Hi there, im doing some programmin on C, and i want to man a function call memset.... and when i do a $man memset i got No manual entry for memset... where could i get this man pages?????
[16:19] <Lacrymology> Slart: just tried lshw. is nice, but WAY to verbose
[16:19] <Barry1> !network
[16:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[16:19] <Barry1> !pppd
[16:19] <Pici> cocox: install the manpages-dev package.
[16:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pppd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:19] <magnetron> !msgthebot > Barry1
[16:19] <Pici> !msgthebot | Barry1
[16:19] <ubotu> Barry1: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[16:20] <wols> linux4me: use "ls" to check the permissins. not the gui rubbish
[16:20] <Barry1> ah sorry thanks
[16:20] <corruptionoflulz> ok, so how do i get the cool zoom out cube view in compiz?
[16:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !dialup
[16:20] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[16:20] <wols> Lacrymology: lspci, dmidecode, etc
[16:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !ccsm > corruptionoflulz
[16:21] <cocox> Pici, allright thank you!
[16:21] <barongas> I have a problem with geting my vfat partition writeable by normal users, looks like this: /dev/hda3 /mnt/stuffs vfat auto,user,rw,exec 0 . Any ideas what's wrong?
[16:21] <corruptionoflulz> Jack_Sparrow: i'm in the ccsm, i just need to know which plugin/hotkey, since i can't seem to find it
[16:21] <wols> barongas: no umask set
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> corruptionoflulz: I dont use effects, just thought you were fishing for the link
[16:21] <sorous1> wols, sorry my connection is so bad so i regullarly get disconnected my command was sudo apt-get remove ./linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-ume_2.6.22-14.11_i386.deb
[16:22] <barongas> Oh yeah, the umask... I remember something along them lines.. Will check up. THanks
[16:22] <chraso> hey node. someone please tell me the feisty's kernel ver.
[16:22] <sorous1> wols, please tell me if i have missed your message since last session
[16:22] <sorous1> wols, really sorry
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> chraso: uname -a
[16:22] <wols> sorous1: kinda strange. can you paste the full apt-get output?
[16:23] <wols> sorous1: why do you want to remove the modules?
[16:23] <ianq> good morning! can anyone help me get my mysql server to work again under 7.04? it just won't start
[16:24] <sorous1> wols, my network drivers have been hurt since installing them
[16:24] <sorous1> wols: http://rafb.net/p/ZlBGGa51.html
[16:24] <sunogbaga> ianq log message?
[16:24] <sorous1> wols, i installed that pack to install my sound card driver
[16:25] <ianq> sunogbaga: let me check
[16:25] <wols> sorous1: wrong command.
[16:25] <sorous1> wols, i have no audio :(
[16:25] <wols> sudo apt-get remove <package name>. not the package's filename
[16:25] <sorous1> wols, thanks. i'll test it now
[16:25] <wols> sorous1: dpkg -l |grep linux-backports-modules
[16:25] <wols> that's the packagename
[16:25] <spideyman> ok i give up can someone tell me a brand of webcam that works with ubuntu
[16:25] <lesshaste_> is there a graphical applet to show you your current wireless connection speed?
[16:25] <ianq> sunogbaga: mysql log or another file?
[16:26] <malin> wols, search and nameservers are identical as in the resolv.conf in the suse distro i'm using at the moment, i think it's configured correclty
[16:26] <malin> do you want it pasted anyway?
im on sucking win
[16:26] <chraso> as because lack of modem driver
[16:26] <sunogbaga> ianq not sure.. but you can give which might help trace the problem
[16:26] <Barry1> when I'm creating a ppp config file in /etc/ppp/peers/provider the first line a tutorial is telling me to us is user "user", do I put my username between the quotes?
[16:26] <Barry1> or can I just leave it as user
[16:27] <ianq> sunogbaga: mysql.err and mysql.log are both empty
[16:27] <sunogbaga> ianq syslog
[16:27] <malin> wols, i also tried to ping ip address, not domain name, there was no answer as well
[16:27] <ianq> sunogbaga: one moment
[16:28] <wols> malin: I asked you for something. eithre you can give me that or you can ask someone else for help
[16:28] <malin> wols, sure
[16:28] <puff> Morning.
[16:28] <wols> malin: so I'm waiting for the paste url
[16:28] <ianq> sunogbaga: http://pastebin.com/m1309bcf6
[16:28] <Jack_Sparrow> wols: I hate that too.. you try to help someone , ask them for information and they ignore what you ask and keep going
[16:29] <malin>  /sbin/iconfig route, correct?
[16:29] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: what bothres me the most is they totally ignore what you asked for and give you what they think is best
[16:29] <Barry1> man pppd just says for the user option - user name sets the name used for authenticating the local system to the peer to name
[16:29] <wols> malin: output of resolv.conf too. possibly dmesg |grep eth
[16:29] <Barry1> does that mean its what I'll look like to the system I'm trying to connect?
[16:30] <Jack_Sparrow> wols: Or they try to hide the obvious ..where they ran automatix or envy...  etc
[16:30] <sorous1> wols, thanks alot it worked. i should reboot to test my ume kernell
[16:30] <wols> Barry1: put it in doublequotes
[16:31] <wols> Barry1: it's the username you have with the ppp ISP
[16:31] <malin> Jack_Sparrow, wols, it's not that i ignore what you say. It''s just that i have to restart the computer, launch ubuntu from liveCD, do the commands, write the effects on a piece of paper, reboot again, launch suste and paste the text to a pastebin
[16:31] <malin> it takes a while
[16:31] <Barry1> its a 3g usb modem with a sim card in it I'm pretty sure i don't have a log in
[16:31] <ianq> sunogbaga: did you get my message?
[16:31] <bubuntu> hello, anybody knows about huge size font in gnome login? I can't find out it!
[16:31] <Barry1> thanks for the reply wols was starting to doubt i had the volume up on this side :)
[16:31] <wols> malin: you don't. we have something caleld "files" where to put the stuff
[16:32] <Jack_Sparrow> malin: NOt talking about you, but some users in general
[16:32] <wols> files you can later paste to the pastehin
[16:32] <cyzie> hi, i have a source code and i would like to package them in .deb. i have search through the google but doesn't return a link that is convincing how to do from packaging for sourcecode in chroot env, can someone share a link did just that? thank you.
[16:32] <wers> I'm trying to make gnome as light as it can. I killed tracker, removed deskbar, removed desktop icons, and used a light theme. what more can you suggest?
[16:32] <wols> cyzie: you write a /debian/ directory with various config files or you use checkinstall or such
[16:33] <malin> ok, nevermind, brb
[16:33] <pike_> wers: pkill gnome-session
[16:33] <wols> wers: don't use gnome :)
[16:33] <piotruntu> how come everytime i boot into ubuntu, i always have to configure the monitor because the screen always gets shifted down and i have to auto configure my monitor
[16:33] <wers> I want a light gnome (not any other DE)
[16:33] <cyzie> wols but /debian/ isnt mock chroot ?
[16:33] <wols> cyzie: huh?
[16:33] <Slart> piotruntu: your monitor is broken?.. does it stay the same with other os's?
[16:34] <pike_> wers: gnome has improved but its just a hungry de
[16:34] <sunogbaga> ianq you recently changed your config?
[16:34] <cyzie> wols, nvm, do you have the link? i can read myself.
[16:34] <wers> yep. my objective is to make it as light as I can
[16:34] <ianq> sunogbaga: no, but the computer crashed last night and I had to reboot it by hand
[16:34] <wols> cyzie: debian has a new maintainers website. dunno about ubuntu
[16:34] <Slart> piotruntu: I thought that stuff was saved in some small piece of memory in the monitor itself.. I might be wrong though
[16:34] <eddy_> Help!  Everytime I go AFK my computer freezes - first the monitor blanks - and I can't turn this off.  I tried to stop it in screensaver settings & power settings but it never stops blanking my screen then freezing!
[16:34] <rrittenhouse> Has anybody here tried setting up ejabberd in Gutsy? It seems to be crashing when I try and start it.
[16:34] <wers> any suggestions? (other than using another DE)
[16:34] <piotruntu> slart: its not broken, i have dual boot with vista and the same thing happens as well and i want to figure out how to fix it so i dont have to always press the auto config button on the monitor
[16:35] <cyzie> wols, link please
[16:35] <Abhi> Its U-Buntu?
[16:35] <Abhi> Please pronounce ubuntu
[16:35] <sunogbaga> ianq honestly, i havent encountrd this issue yet.. lemme help you search google.. or you can ask from #mysql
[16:35] <LancerDragoon> Abhi: Oo-buntu.
[16:35] <cappiz> someone knows how i can get into my desktop with VNC? im all remote
[16:35] <Abhi> i have been thinking for ages
[16:36] <Abhi> Aye
[16:36] <Slart> piotruntu: ok.. I still think it's your monitor that's the blame here.. but you can control certain monitor-things, like brightness and stuff, from ubuntu.. perhaps you can make it autoconfig when you log in or something
[16:36] <ianq> sunogbaga: thanks a lot
[16:36] <pike_> wers: what part of gnome do you like or want to keep?
[16:36] <ljcasey> Abhi, you need to get out more.
[16:36] <bubuntu> hello, anybody knows about huge size font in gnome login? I can't find out it!
[16:36] <pike_> wers: what i mean is it is basically just a collection of stuff so you could run if you wanted even blackbox and gnome-panel
[16:36] <wers> I want it to be as complete as xfce, pike_ (but I want to use gnome because it's more solid)
[16:37] <ianq> sunogbaga: i just found something in the forums. someone suggested using "/usr/sbin/mysqld --skip-grant &" and that seems to work
[16:37] <ip00n> i have to backup windows documents using a ubuntu liveCD. how do i make ubuntu able to write onto my external HD, which is ntfs formatted?
[16:37] <Dark> good morning all
[16:37] <wols> !ntfs-3g
[16:37] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[16:38] <ip00n> :)
[16:38] <sunogbaga> ianq good then.
[16:38] <Dark> i have been baning my head against a wall all night...can someone help me with my networking issue...please
[16:38] <wols> ip00n: but it skips you grant table where your permissions are stored. doesn't seem to be a longtime solution for any mysql problem
[16:38] <pike_> wers: so its basically just a collection of libs and stuff. you could run xfce4 but use gnome panel instead with the right theme it would look fine and youd have all your apps and stuff just like gnome. id also consider not using gdm but maybe just startx or xinit to launch it
[16:38] <wols> !ask | Dark
[16:38] <ubotu> Dark: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[16:38] <pike_> wers: instead of xfcepanel
[16:39] <Dark> wols  i just installed 7.10 on another computer here at the house--internet works great with the live CD, but once I installed it...no network connection
[16:39] <wols> Dark: what network chip?
[16:39] <reverseblade> eddy_, press <ALT> <PRINTSCREEN> then while pusshing those type REISUB
[16:39] <reverseblade> it will boot your computer if it freezes
[16:40] <Dark> wols my router has assigned an IP address, but my computer will not accept it...it seems
[16:40] <wers> pike_, the issue here is that I want the integration between gnome's apps
[16:40] <wers> what's the best way for me to achieve that, guys? :)
[16:40] <eddy_> reverseblade thanks ill try
[16:40] <Dark> i am using the NIC off of my ASUS mobo A8n
[16:40] <wols> Dark: that doesn't tell me anything. what chip or driver?
[16:40] <wers> hmm.. startx or xinit huh?
[16:40] <wers> imma research on that
[16:40] <ikonia> wols: nforce4
[16:40] <Dark> wols sorry..one sec
[16:41] <ikonia> ooh no thats the a8v
[16:41] <wols> Dark: so what driver does it use for you?
[16:41] <ikonia> no no, a8n = nforce 4
[16:41] <Dark> it is a Marvel Technology Group 88E8001 Gigabit Ethernet Controller
[16:41] <ikonia> ok, av8 = nforce 4
[16:41] <ikonia> a8v
[16:41] <Dark> wols and how do i tell what driver it is using
[16:41] <cherva> i have problems compiling even a hello world app in c++ here is the source code and the output of gcc http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49039/ please help
[16:42] <wols> Dark: run sudo ifconfig -a
[16:42] <wols> Dark: pastebin the result
[16:42] <ikonia> cherva: this is not a c++ class room
[16:42] <ikonia> cherva: this is for ubuntu issues
[16:42] <wols> !b-e | cherva
[16:42] <ubotu> cherva: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[16:43] <cherva> ikonia its an ubuntu issue because my c++ is ok
[16:43] <ikonia> cherva: no it's not
[16:43] <Dark> wols i cant paste in the result, as it is on another machine...but it gives me both of my interfaces (eth0, eth1, and my loopback)
[16:43] <sunogbaga> cherva std::cout
[16:43] <wols> cherva: no it's not an ubuntu issue. the issue is you don't know C++ which means it's OT here
[16:43] <ikonia> sunogbaga: thank you, but I wasn't going to tell him
[16:43] <alvint> Qmail is now in the public domain!  what are the odds (and what is the timetable) for packaging in ubuntu?
[16:43] <Dark> wols the lo has a ip address of <IP_ADDRESS>, and the other two dont have an IP address
[16:43] <ikonia> alvint: qmail has been around for 10 years
[16:43] <ikonia> alvint: there is also an update called netqmail
[16:43] <Pici> cherva: try ##C++
[16:44] <wols> Dark: do waht I asked you
[16:44] <sunogbaga> ikonia ..sorry.. :P
[16:44] <ikonia> sunogbaga: no problem, help one, you have to help all C++
[16:44] <wols> sunogbaga: you were wrong btw :P
[16:44] <ikonia> wols: nah, looks ok
[16:44] <ikonia> he looks right
[16:44] <linux4me> wols - the gui say the partition is /dev/sda3. it is on mount point /media/disk. in terminal ls -hal shows root as the owner
[16:44] <Dark> wols i am unable to paste in the resluts
[16:44] <cherva> sunogbaga: still the same :(
[16:44] <wols> sunogbaga: he namespace std;
[16:44] <alvint> ikonia: but before it's license prevented it from being distributed with linux distros.
[16:44] <ikonia> anyway, it's OT
[16:45] <sunogbaga> wols oh yeah! lemme check
[16:45] <ikonia> alvint: yup
[16:45] <Dark> wols its on a different machine
[16:45] <wols> linux4me: unmount, change the mountpoint to be 777 and remount
[16:45] <wols> Dark: then you are SOL
[16:46] <Barry1> ok disconnecting to try and get my 3g usb modem working in linux wish me luck!
[16:46] <Dark> wols SOL? are you kidding?
[16:46] <pope22> in my attempts to add Composite to Gutsy and enable desktop effects, i am having troubles. I have looked in the forums, and Google, but all solutions seem to be geared to those who did a hard install, not upgraders such as myself
[16:46] <starlight__> what difference of ubuntu, kubuntu and edubuntu?
[16:46] <wols> Dark: either you do what I asked you or you can ask someone else for help but not me. have a nice day
[16:46] <pope22> the window manager, starlight
[16:46] <alvint> ikonia: so now I'd like an official ubuntu (or debian) package.  I haven't  been this excited since java implemented generics!
[16:46] <pope22> er...desktop enviroment rather
[16:46] <Pici> starlight__: Desktop Environment and/or default installed packages.
[16:47] <dgjones> starlight__, ubuntu uses Gnome, Kubuntu uses KDE as their desktop environments
[16:47] <ikonia> alvint: I've got one for fesity that I'm re-packaging for hardy (probably submited post hardy) but there are problems with uspci distribution rules too
[16:47] <Pici> pope22: What kind of problems are you having?
[16:47] <wols> pope22: what videocard?
[16:47] <Dark> wols how can i paste in the output of the "sudo ifconfig -a" command when the computer we are talking about is unable to reach the network
[16:47] <sunogbaga> cherva you shouldve used g++ instead
[16:47] <ikonia> Dark: output to a file, but it on a usb stick and move it
[16:48] <wols> Dark: you have a harddisk where you can store files. or usb sticks or even floppies
[16:48] <Dark> wols sorry...i dont have a usb stick with me at the moment
[16:48] <alvint> ikonia: does it need to use uspci? can't it listen directly?
[16:48] <wols> you also said it works in liveCD I think
[16:48] <ljcasey> Dark, SOL :)
[16:48] <Dark> wols dont own a floppy drive
[16:48] <ikonia> alvint: it needs uspci and daemon tools
[16:48] <pope22> ATI ( i know, it's the devil)  and in my search for how to install composite (for that's what I am told I am missing when i try to enable Desktop Effects) I can't seem to figure out what to apt-get in order to install it
[16:48] <Bassetts> My touchpad is being very erratic since updating the kernel and the mouse is skipping everywhere, the side scroll also stops working after it freezes for a few seconds
[16:48] <Dark> ljcasey this is in no way funny or fun
[16:48] <wols> Dark: I we are supposed to help you we need more information. if you cannot provide the information then you are SOL. easy as that.
[16:48] <Pici> pope22: What video card do you have?
[16:49] <Pici> pope22: Exact model pelase.
[16:49] <alvint> ikonia: oh
[16:49] <wols> pope22: what driver?
[16:49] <Pici> s/pelase/please
[16:49] <alvint> ikonia: still, it would be nice
[16:49] <pope22> 200m, i'm using flgx for the driver
[16:49] <ikonia> alvint: I have it all packaged and working on fesity, and I aimed to submit to hardy, but it will probably be sumbitted for the release after hardy
[16:49] <ljcasey> Dark, maybe copy it manually into a file?
[16:49] <profanephobia> pope22, sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl
[16:49] <pope22> ....xgl crashed ubuntu when i was running Feisty, is that better now?
[16:50] <wols> Dark: sudo ifconfig -a > ifconfig.out
[16:50] <alvint> ikonia: will the fiesty package work on gutsy/hardy?
[16:50] <profanephobia> pope22, then restart.. did you use the restricted drivers manger
[16:50] <rakyr> my BIOS detects my optical drive, but ubuntu doesn't
[16:50] <Pici> pope22: You have to use xgl with the fglrx drivers, if you used the restricted drivers manager.
[16:50] <wax> hi
[16:50] <pope22> yes i did, i have my vidcard enabled
[16:50] <wols> alvint: usually it does. depends a bit if the maintainer fscked up or not :)
[16:50] <ikonia> alvint: Hmmm not solid no, the gcc version differences between hardy/fesity and glibc changes makes it a little flakey
[16:50] <wo0f> kitche: the loading screen bug
[16:50] <sunogbaga> !ask | wax
[16:50] <profanephobia> pope22, try install xgl then reboot.. it really should work
[16:50] <ubotu> wax: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[16:51] <ikonia> alvint: I have it working on hardy, but I've not finished the re-packaging hence the delay in submision, I will have it ready post hardy and hopefully submitted for inclusion in hardy+1
[16:51] <wo0f> kitche, where the x server has not start yet
[16:51] <wo0f> kitche: you know, the loading bar bit
[16:51] <rakyr> my optical drive makes weird sounds, like it has a high-pitched sound when reading media, but ubuntu doesn't see the drive...do i have to manually mount the drive?  it doesn't even appear as an icon!
[16:51] <pope22> installing xgl now, i'll come back after the reboot ^_^ I hope it works, thnx in advance either way
[16:51] <profanephobia> pope22, actually you just just restart x instead of reboot ctrl+alt+backspace
[16:51] <wols> rakyr: you could check dmesg to see if it's recognized
[16:51] <rakyr> thanks
[16:51] <pope22> i'll reboot, i just updated a few other things, so i need it
[16:52] <Dark> wols found a usb drive...one sec
[16:52] <wols> pope22: did you upgrade your kernel?
[16:52] <alvint> ikonia: thanks, that's great! will it have the smtp auth/ssl stuff?
[16:52] <ikonia> alvint: yes
[16:52] <profanephobia> pope22, i have the same card btw... its working for me in gutsy but you know how that goes :)
[16:52] <bells> #ubuntu-gr
[16:52] <ikonia> alvint: I've also done vpopmail, vqadmin and qmailadmin
[16:52] <pope22> o.k. i'll be back
[16:52] <alvint> can I get the fiesty package from somewhere?
[16:53] <ikonia> alvint: I can put my fesity repo back online tonight if you want
[16:53] <rakyr> i have my optical drive on the same ide cable as the hdd...is that gonna cause a problem?
[16:53] <wols> alvint: yes, from feisty :P
[16:53] <wols> rakyr: not a problem but bad
[16:54] <rakyr> wols: i don't have any other choice, i have a cheap motherboard
[16:54] <wols> rakyr: every mobo has at least 2 IDE channels I though?
[16:54] <wols> *thought
[16:55] <rakyr> mine only had fdd and hdd :(  should i make the optical drive a master to have dual master hdd and optical drives?
[16:55] <wols> no. one must be master, other slave
[16:55] <alvint> ikonia: cool.  is there a URL I need?
[16:55] <wols> dmesg | grep hdb
[16:55] <ReVo-Eirik> Hi
[16:55] <jeffMASTERflex> wols:  new boards have multiple sata ports and only one IDE channel for optical drives
[16:55] <ikonia> alvint: http://www.mdlan.co.uk/repos/ubuntu/fesity
[16:55] <wols> rakyr: curious, what mobo model,brand isthis?
[16:55] <ikonia> alvint: it's disalbed at this exact moment
[16:55] <wols> jeffMASTERflex: they aren't cheap tho. intel demans pretty penny for mobos :P
[16:56] <david__> hi any one in room
[16:56] <starlight__> where I earn to get canonpro9000 printer driver for ubuntu?
[16:56] <linux4me> wols - how do i change the mount point for that partition?
[16:56] <alvint> that's fine; I'll check it later.  thanks!
[16:56] <wols> or rather for chipsets
[16:56] <ljcasey> !ask david__
[16:56] <jeffMASTERflex> wols:  actually, almost all new boards have this configuration, cheap or not
[16:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask david__ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:56] <ikonia> alvint: post 8:00 GMT
[16:56] <ReVo-Eirik> I am going to install ubuntu, but I am not confident enough to switch to it completely. How do I uninstall Ubuntu?
[16:56] <wols> linux4me: I said to change perms of the mountpoint. not hte mountpoint itself
[16:56] <abiyaman> yoohoo
[16:56] <syc0> ReVo-Eirik hey man whats up, i just installed it
[16:56] <wols> jeffMASTERflex: again, cheap intel based mobos? you are dreaming
[16:56] <rakyr> wols: http://paste.uni.cc/17849
[16:56] <syc0> i really suggest jumping 2 feet into ubuntu and not looking back
[16:56] <ReVo-Eirik> Well, how can I uninstall Ubuntu?
[16:57] <kkuhl> Hello there. I'm a new Ubuntu user. Who can help with installing flash properly?
[16:57] <syc0> !flash > kkuhl
[16:57] <ReVo-Eirik> Could someone here tell me in a private chat how to uninstall properly?
[16:57] <wols> rakyr: so it's recognized by the kernel. try to mount a disk from in there
[16:57] <ikonia> !flashissues | syc0
[16:57] <ubotu> syc0: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads.
[16:57] <alvint> ikonia: roger that
[16:57] <profanephobia> ReVo-Eirik, you can dual boot or try it out with a live cd
[16:57] <jeffMASTERflex> wols:  http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3301602&CatId=1533
[16:57] <linux4me> wols - ok, how do I change the permissions of the mountpoint?
[16:57] <rakyr> ok, manually, thanks wols!
[16:57] <Pici> kkuhl: Please see that second message from ubotu and the channel topic.
[16:57] <ReVo-Eirik> How do I burn a live CD with the newest version?
[16:57] <Dark> wols well crap...for some reason this box won't recgonize my usb drive...i am having all kinds of issues today
[16:58] <wols> ReVo-Eirik: you can't. you simply install another OS on the ubuntu partition overwriting ubuntu. you also use fixmbr to get your original windows bootsectors back
[16:58] <jeffMASTERflex> wols:  i work in retail for computer parts. new oem boards are usually set up this way and most new retail boards are set up that way
[16:58] <syc0> Roger.
[16:58] <pike_> Dark: dmesg | tail doesnt show a sd? device?
[16:58] <neverblue> ReVo-Eirik, do you just have one OS on your system ?
[16:58] <Dark> no
[16:59] <wols> jeffMASTERflex: that might be (it is so since ICH8 since that one doesn't have any IDE ports anymore) but intel bases mobos are never cheap
[16:59] <kkuhl> !flash
[16:59] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[16:59] <ikonia> !flashissues | kkuhl
[16:59] <ubotu> kkuhl: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads.
[17:00] <goldphish> How do I build a kernel module that was not included in the standard ubuntu kernel? I already grabbed the header package. Now what?
[17:00] <wols> goldphish: you need the sources for that module. ie a krenel source
[17:00] <Ali_ix> goldphish: get the source, sompile it and load it via insmod command
[17:01] <pastor> Can someone help me set up OpenDNS on my laptop?
[17:01] <Ali_ix> pastor: what is problme?
[17:01] <kkuhl> hmm... flash is not working now?
[17:01] <goldphish> wols: once I have the source, then what?
[17:01] <wols> Ali_ix: never isnmod. modprobe
[17:01] <ikonia> kkuhl: not at this exact moment
[17:01] <Stars> how to install cannonPRO9000 printer in ubuntu?
[17:01] <Ali_ix> wols: whats is difference? why?
[17:01] <wols> goldphish: then you compile it. get the source first and tell us what module it is
[17:01] <kkuhl> ok... thanks
[17:01] <jose> hello i have problems with the net driver
[17:01] <wols> Ali_ix: no dependency resolution with insmod
[17:02] <wols> !printing | Stars
[17:02] <ubotu> Stars: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[17:02] <Ali_ix> wols: aha, thanks
[17:02] <goldphish> wols: the package just called linux-source ?
[17:02] <wols> goldphish: what module?
[17:02] <goldphish> wols: keyspan. It's included in a vanilla kernel
[17:02] <pastor> Ali_ix, I have an active account with all the right settings (I think), but I can still access rubbish.
[17:02] <goldphish> wols: but not the ubuntu kernel for some reason
[17:02] <xoqrps> Could anyone please assist me so I can get double screens working on my laptop?
[17:02] <neverblue> jose wireless ?
[17:02] <Stars> !printing
[17:02] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[17:02] <wols> apt-get source <linux kernel package>
[17:03] <linux4me> wols - my /etc/fstab has no reference to /dev/sda3 whatsoever!
[17:03] <Mersmireille> There's a guide about dual-head on the forums
[17:03] <Ali_ix> pastor check yoour dns settings with opendns test page
[17:03] <Mersmireille> I found it a few times via Google
[17:03] <pike_> !dualhead | xoqrps might help
[17:03] <ubotu> xoqrps might help: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[17:03] <wols> linux4me: then put it in?
[17:03] <syc0> whats wrong pastor
[17:03] <syc0> u just want a walkthrough? im sure you can find somthing to read on it.
[17:03] <Ali_ix> pastor: or simply ype: yahoo.cmo and see if it corrcts you
[17:03] <Mersmireille> There was also an Ubuntu-specific guide
[17:03] <jose> neverblue is not wireless
[17:03] <Dr_willis> Mersmireille,  what video card?
[17:03] <wols> jose: what chip/driver?
[17:03] <jose> rtl 8092 AS
[17:04] <neverblue> jose do you see it listed under 'lspci' (a command), and do you have more than one ?
[17:04] <linux4me> wols - i'm beginning to despise the gui. i mostly run ubuntu server, command line only. I am now only farting around with ubuntu desktop!
[17:04] <Dr_willis> Enableing Multi Monuitor support with nvidia cards  - is rather easy. :)
[17:04] <jose> i see in the botton
[17:04] <pastor> Ali_ix, it does correct me... what does that mean?
[17:04] <wols> Dark: there surely is another network chip on that board too. cause that marvell one seems to often have problems without an available driver... while nvidia or via chips are quite well supported
[17:04] <jose> of the list
[17:04] <sholden> so...  I've got a video playing, and it's raping XGL. Am I doing something wrong or is this to always be expected?  both of my processor cores are like 100%
[17:04] <wols> linux4me: good. guis generally suck, even if they make it easier for new people
[17:05] <rakyr> may wols be praised!  my optical drive works!
[17:05] <Ali_ix> pastor: check DNS tab in network manager, drag opendns IPis on top of other dns servers
[17:05] <boobsbr> howdy, is there a way to create a shell script to create massive number of telnet sessions to connect to a single server and keep sending messages to it to test stability?
[17:05] <wols> jose: don't you mean 8029AS?
[17:05] <Dark> wols yeah...i have another one that says its using an nvidia chipset..but that one does the exact same thing
[17:05] <boobsbr> need to check my java nio server
[17:05] <rakyr> i haven't had an optical drive in 3 months!  thanks you wols!
[17:05] <wols> boobsbr: we do not condone DDOS
[17:05] <ikonia> boobsbr: that won't check stability
[17:05] <jose> wols yes
[17:05] <Dark> wols rechecking it now just to be sure
[17:05] <wols> boobsbr: so stop
[17:05] <ikonia> boobsbr: that is a DOS attack
[17:05] <wols> Dark: lspci
[17:06] <wols> jose: ne2k-pci is the driver for that
[17:06] <linux4me> wols - thought ubuntu gui might be a bit better at doing stuff for you.  I mean in windows, it is a breeze to install a new partition and use it. it is easy to do via the command line too but I just wanted to see how far ubuntu desktop gui have come along. i see they have a ways to go yet! ;(
[17:06] <pastor> Ali_ix, both the OpenDNS DNS's are there, but I can still access rubbish.
[17:06] <boobsbr> ikonia: well, is there a way to check for stability on my server then?
[17:06] <ikonia> boobsbr: from what perspective
[17:06] <jose> wols how i install that driver
[17:07] <Stars> how to run windows application in ubuntu? (such as microsoft office)
[17:07] <Pici> !wine | Stars
[17:07] <ubotu> Stars: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[17:07] <wols> jose: you don't, it's already there. sudo ifconfig -a
[17:07] <Dr_willis> Stars,  good luck with MS office...
[17:07] <Ali_ix> pastor:  check in terminal to see if you have resolv.conf file ith correct data, it is in /etc/resolv.conf
[17:07] <boobsbr> well, i coded a small java.nio server with nonblocking sockets and worker threads, now i need to know how well will it respond to a lot of connections sending data to it
[17:07] <goldphish> wols: ok, got the source. How do I go about building the module?
[17:07] <antraxx> Bonjours tout le monde
[17:07] <Dr_willis> Stars,  if office is needed that badly - there is some specilized comercial wine variants that may help ya/work ebtter then the free wine.
[17:07] <Pici> !fr | antraxx
[17:07] <ikonia> boobsbr: that's not an ubuntu issue, join #java
[17:07] <ubotu> antraxx: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:07] <wols> !compile | goldphish
[17:07] <ubotu> goldphish: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[17:07] <stefkoo> Hello people somebody can tell me how to SET on BITCHX bad words like ( when somebody say: shit, fuck on the channel to get kicked automatic from the bitchx ) ?
[17:08] <Pici> !language | stefkoo
[17:08] <ubotu> stefkoo: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:08] <pastor> Ali_ix, forgive my ignorance, but how do i do that?
[17:08] <jose> wols, so how i solve the problems with that driver
[17:08] <stuporglu1> Valgrind / GDB question: I can connect to a running instance of a program with GDB (gdb -nw <program> <pid>), but not from within Valgrind. It asks if I want to attach to the debugger then never does regardless of my response
[17:08] <stefkoo> Pici: i'm speaking english dude.
[17:08] <antraxx> Il y a un francais?
[17:08] <Ali_ix> pastor: check this: https://www.opendns.com/start?device=ubuntu
[17:08] <Pici> stefkoo: Please re-read the message then.
[17:08] <antraxx> J'ai besoin d'aide plz
[17:08] <jan____> "Not replacing deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf" <- why not? I want it to replace it.
[17:08] <wols> jose: I asked you for the output of ifconfig
[17:08] <Pici> antraxx: /j #ubuntu-fr
[17:08] <profanephobia> is there like a dual monitor app for ati cards that allows for custom resolution?
[17:08] <goldphish> wols: I'm familiar with how to compile software. I'm just looking for the ubuntu way to build a kernel module
[17:08] <stefkoo> ok oksry
[17:08] <Ali_ix> pastor: press f2 and type gnome-terminal to open a terminal
[17:08] <TBotNik_u> wols: Back at my Xorg problem this morning.  The one you and soundray weighed in on Y'day.
[17:08] <boobsbr> that's why i asked for a shell script using telnet but since it is a DDOS attack i didn't know where else to ask
[17:08] <wols> antraxx: english only please. for french help #ubuntu-fr
[17:09] <stefkoo> By the way i talking by the IRC CLIENT bitchx
[17:09] <Ali_ix> pastor: then follow the guide
[17:09] <stefkoo> how i can set a bad words in there a ?
[17:09] <ronnie> eton:
[17:09] <wols> goldphish: there is no such way. the "ubuntu way" would be to make a new kernel
[17:09] <Dark> wols just ran that, and yes..the other one is nVidia chipset....i just did a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:09] <Dark> wols and no luck
[17:09] <sholden> i'm trying to watch a video on a relatively fast machine, but npviewer.bin and XGL seem to be owning my processor.  Any ideas?
[17:09] <wols> Dark: which one is the nvidia one and chich one the marvell one? is forcedeth loaded?
[17:09] <splatt> hola
[17:09] <stefkoo> !bitchx stefkoo
[17:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bitchx stefkoo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:10] <sholden> Is this to be expected, or am i doing something crazy?
[17:10] <Pici> stefkoo: I know what BitchX is.  I was referring to the other word you used.  #bitchx will probably give you more help, most users here use irssi as their cli irc client of choice.
[17:10] <wols> !irssi | stefkoo
[17:10] <ubotu> stefkoo: Irssi is a terminal based IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help.
[17:10] <goldphish> wols: hmm, I've looked at the guides for building  acustom kernel and they all say it's unnecessary for building just one module. Yet none of them say how to build just one module.
[17:10] <Dark> wols parden my noobness...but what is forcedeth?
[17:10] <wols> goldphish: kernel-package has help on how to just build a module package
[17:10] <stefkoo> Pici:  BX
[17:10] <Dark> the nvidia one is eth1, and the marvel on is eth0
[17:10] <Dr_willis> The BitchX irc client - has dozens of web sites/guides/docs   - i reccomend irssi over bitchx however.  But use what you want. :)
[17:10] <wols> Dark: the driver for the nvidia NIC
[17:10] <Dr_willis> I found the irssi docs a little better done.
[17:11] <goldphish> wols: cool, thanks
[17:11] <wols> Dr_willis: who cares? the irc client is better done :P
[17:11] <psyk0z> hii
[17:11] <Stars> wine less good to run windows application in ubuntu, there any other application?
[17:11] <Dr_willis> wols,  Which one.. :)  Ive been testing out chatzilla lately Heh..
[17:11] <wols> goldphish: make-kpkg --target
[17:11] <Dr_willis> Stars,  unless you want to emulate a whole machine.. wine or its variants is how its done.
[17:11] <Dark> wols oops..sorry...both of them seem to be from Marvell...i was looking at the wrong section of the output
[17:11] <wols> Dr_willis: irssi. there is no other irc client
[17:12] <wols> Dr_willis: pastebin your lspci then
[17:12] <Dr_willis> wols,  heh - i was using some Perl based irc client for ages.
[17:12] <wols> Dark: ^^
[17:12] <Dark> wols the weird thing is...internet works just fine with the live cd..but not when it is installed
[17:12] <Dr_willis> :)
[17:12] <wols> while asus does a lot of stupid things I can't believe they are THAT stupid
[17:12] <Dark> wols i don't understand that
[17:12] <jones> is there a channel for open office issues?
[17:12] <jose> wols sorry, i sent you throw a private chat the out from the ifconfig
[17:12] <wols> Dark: then check what the livecd does differently. either give us the info we need ro you can help yourself
[17:13] <splatt> how i can kill the Xs ?
[17:13] <wols> jose: a) you did not b) do never PM me unasked if you want answers c) use a pastebin
[17:13] <Pici> jones: #openoffice.org-users I believe.
[17:13] <hiddenghost> hi, any one know about blender in here?
[17:13] <Dr_willis> Dark,  you may want to check the 'lsmod' output of th elive cd. and the real install. (save both to a file) and see if any modules are getting loaded differently
[17:13] <jones> i apologize not open office but evolution.
[17:13] <pastor> Al_ix, ok, I have opened /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and changed the prepend domain-name-servers  to <IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS>; but I still get rubbish when I try and access it on the net. Thoughts?
[17:13] <Dark> wols thanks for trying to help...i am trying to get the info to you..i have it on a usb drive now, but this box doesnt want to see it
[17:13] <Pici> hiddenghost: Try #blender
[17:13] <wols> Dark: you said you have a livccd working. use that
[17:13] <hiddenghost> or zbuffer problems
[17:13] <Mersmireille> Dark: what network card?
[17:14] <pastor> Ali_ix, ok, I have opened /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and changed the prepend domain-name-servers  to <IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS>; but I still get rubbish when I try and access it on the net. Thoughts?
[17:14] <Dark> Dr_willis where is the lsmod located
[17:14] <Pici> hiddenghost: Unless its an issue about installing the Ubuntu package.
[17:14] <Dr_willis> Dark,  its a command you type :)
[17:14] <Mersmireille> dark: just type lsmod in a terminal
[17:14] <Dark> ok thanks
[17:14] <Dr_willis> if the live cd is loading a module that the other is not.. try manually loading it on the installed system
[17:15] <hiddenghost> Pici: I am having trouble with my zbuffer.
[17:15] <Dark> Mersmireille its the nic off of my mobo..asus a8n
[17:15] <wols> Mersmireille: do you think he knows which of the 2 dozen modules there is his NIC module?
[17:15] <pastor> Alix_ix, I then get this "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[17:15] <pastor> Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0." Thoughts?
[17:15] <jose> wols thats why i said sorry. but i didn't wanted to fill the chat with my out of the ifconfig, How i sent to you
[17:15] <Ali_ix> pastor: how do you access to internet? direc? behind firewaal/nat? try to remove your old/ISP dns servers and keep just opendns ones. if you are connected via a ppp like (dialpu eg) connection, try to reconnect.
[17:15] <wols> pastor: sudo ifconfig -a
[17:15] <wols> !paste | jose
[17:16] <ubotu> jose: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:16] <neverblue> jose, still need a hand ?
[17:16] <pastor> ok, I'll try and reconnect. BBIAF
[17:16] <Ali_ix> pastor: ;)
[17:16] <punz> Someone give me an idea here, on my laptop the wifi normally looks fine in ubuntu, however here at my friends house, connecting to this older dell truemobile wifi-b basestation I can connect but no host names will resolve
[17:17] <jose> yes i still
[17:17] <punz> it works fine in windows (which i'm booted into now)
[17:17] <wols> punz: bad DNS settings for some reason
[17:17] <neverblue> jose put your info on pastebin please
[17:17] <wols> punz: check your resolv.conf
[17:17] <Ali_ix> punz: looks like dns problem
[17:18] <jose> ok
[17:18] <JGJones> Greetings all
[17:18] <hiddenghost> Pici: I missed you saying try #blender, I will see about that.
[17:18] <JGJones> I have an issue with my Gutsy - the recent kernel headers update have basically caused my grub to be fubar'ed.
[17:18] <neverblue> jose so that would be anything anyone else asked you to post as well as your 'lspci' and 'lsmod'
[17:18] <wols> JGJones: nonsense
[17:19] <pastor> Alix_ix, When I restart the router, my DNS defaults back to my ISP's DNS. Thoughts?
[17:19] <jones> anyone know if there is a way to use Evolution to access a exchange webaccess account?
[17:19] <JGJones> wols: no - I'm not the only one, there is a thread about it on ubuntu forums.
[17:19] <JGJones> Fetching URL
[17:19] <hiddenghost> How can one adjust the 3d options for ubuntu?
[17:19] <wols> JGJones: kernel headers alone cannot do _anything_ with your grub config. end of story
[17:19] <jose> wols here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49042/
[17:19] <Ali_ix> pastor: ok! if you have any access to router CP you can define dns there
[17:20] <Ali_ix> pastor: are you using dhcp to get IP from router?
[17:20] <JGJones> OK. It boots ok. Never changed. No software/or anything else installed/removed. Get security updates, some of which are kernel headers updates.
[17:20] <JGJones> Ask to reboot.
[17:20] <JGJones> It now gives a "partition not found" error.
[17:21] <wols> jose: you already have 2 interfaces both seemingly working fine. what is the output of "ping google.com" ther?
[17:21] <komputes> does anyone know how to find out the version of a process/command?
[17:21] <pastor> Ali_ix, I think it is a static IP, not dhcp. Is there a difference?
[17:21] <wols> JGJones: the grub bootmenu shows?
[17:21] <Ali_ix> pastor: yes. if it is static ip, the dns settings shouldnt change!
[17:21] <wols> pastor: yes
[17:21] <JGJones> The same as before.
[17:21] <pidix> when i use usernodes and cck drupal dont create usernode for new users
[17:21] <pidix> why?
[17:21] <wols> JGJones: pastebin your menu.lst and your sudo fdisk -l output
[17:22] <crush_groove> hy would I be using a gig of memory when Im not running anything more intensiver than xchat ? is there a way to refresh it or clear it .. is doing either of those even necessary?
[17:22] <Ali_ix> pastor: paste the output into pastebin: 'ifconfig -a', 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'
[17:22] <Ali_ix> !paste | pastor
[17:22] <ubotu> pastor: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:22] <jdecoste> hi
[17:22] <wols> crush_groove: not necessary. you do not use 1GB. most of the RAM is used as diskcache automatically. there never is free memory since it would be wasted memory
[17:22] <jose> wols give me troubles sometimes i used yesterday and worked for like 20 seconds, and later doesn't work, then later i connect other network the one that im using now
[17:22] <wols> !doesn't work
[17:22] <jdecoste> anyone here played around with xephyr ?
[17:22] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[17:23] <crush_groove> wols .. this is a *nix thing ?
[17:23] <wols> crush_groove: no it's a modern OS design thing. ALL OSes work this way
[17:23] <neverblue> jose, so you have 2 devices?
[17:23] <neverblue> u didnt mention that before :)
[17:23] <crush_groove>  tyvm wols..
[17:24] <JGJones> wols: fyi - it have happened to a few others here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=644687
[17:24] <JGJones> will do pastebin now
[17:24] <neverblue> jose, what happens when you ping google.com ?
[17:25] <kazol> Is it possible to switch to KDE without messing up anything important?
[17:25] <wols> JGJones: also paste the output of "ls -l /boot"
[17:25] <jose> neverblue just appear in white like freeze
[17:25] <neverblue> jose, copy it into pastebin, for us to look at
[17:26] <Ali_ix> kazol: kde wont hurt you :) you can install it beside gnome or other window managers
[17:26] <neverblue> jose, what type of router are you using ?
[17:26] <emo_ninja> does anyone know of a repo for apache 1.3 on gutsy?
[17:26] <jose> the router is speedstream 5600
[17:27] <Ali_ix> pastor: what is up?
[17:28] <pastor> Ali_ix, how do i visit my D-Link 604 router ?
[17:28] <wols> jose: the fact that the 8029 NIC got an IP is proof that it can connect to the router
[17:28] <neverblue> jose, waiting on your pastebin from you ping command....
[17:28] <wols> jose: unless you should us a paste when something actually failing, no one will be able to help you
[17:28] <Ali_ix> pastor: it might have a web-based control panel, just try the ipaddress in addressbar of browser
[17:28] <neverblue> wols keep positive ;)
[17:28] <kazol> Ali_ix: What about metacity?
[17:28] <wols> neverblue: it will simply use the other NIC now that he uses now to connect to freenode
[17:29] <wols> neverblue: which means it won't prove anything
[17:29] <pastor> Ali_ix, it says, "Unable to Connect."
[17:29] <neverblue> wols, he is connecting here on that same box, I didnt get that far into the convo....
[17:29] <wols> pastor: what is your local IP?
[17:29] <Dark> wols well, i did a diff on the ouput of the installed lsmod vs the live cd, and there is no difference
[17:30] <wols> neverblue: but you saw he has two nics with IPs assigned. so a ping would be futile
[17:30] <pastor> wols, (http://<IP_ADDRESS>)
[17:30] <wols> pastor: that is NOT your local IP
[17:30] <jose> wols yesterday i connected to internet for like 10 seconds 2 times, and then never more
[17:30] <jose> it started with collisions
[17:30] <wols> jose: either show me he pastbin of the error or don't talk to me again please
[17:30] <Ali_ix> kazol: i think kde uses some think other than metacity. whatever! it will not hurt any thing by default :)
[17:30] <flibberdy> I'm using xubuntu, is there a graphical way of setting up samba shares?
[17:30] <pastor> wols, hmmm, what might it look like then?
[17:31] <wols> Ali_ix: it uses kwm
[17:31] <kitche> flibberdy: swat it's web admin tool
[17:31] <Ali_ix> wols: thanks
[17:31] <wols> pastor: whatever your ifconfig tells you
[17:31] <Skif> When I plug in my headphones on my laptop, the main speakers don't turn off.  The Volume Control app doesn't appear to have any levels for the headphones, and there doesn't seem to be any button I can click to disable front speakers without disabling the headphones as well.
[17:31] <Skif> I had this working at one point, but I can't remember what I did now.
[17:31] <flibberdy> thanks kitche
[17:31] <JGJones> wols: menu.lst - http://pastebin.com/d45447d68
[17:31] <JGJones> fdisk and /boot - http://pastebin.com/d574a519b
[17:31] <pastor> wols, where can I find that?
[17:31] <Skif> Any suggestions?
[17:31] <Ali_ix> pastor: please paste these command outputs: 'ifconfig -a' and 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'
[17:31] <jose> wols i get the errors yesterday so i don't know how to check them again
[17:31] <Ali_ix> !paste > pastor
[17:32] <thor> Skif my suse install on my toshiba does the same thing. If you have or find a solution I would sure like to know what it is
[17:32] <pastor> Ali_ix, ok, hang on...
[17:32] <goldphish> wols: I'm still trying to figure out how to build this module. I tried to run `sudo make-kpkg --added-modules keyspan modules_image` but I get an error saying 'The UTS Release version does not match the current version'
[17:32] <JGJones> wols: by the way in menu.lst it mentions the UUID of my HDD for Ubuntu, I have confirmed it to be the same.
[17:32] <Skif> thor: sure... I'm just annoyed because this was working at one point.
[17:32] <pastor> Ali_ix, ifconfig: option `-a and cat' not recognised.
[17:32] <pastor> ifconfig: `--help' gives usage information.
[17:33] <neverblue> jose, are you using this same system to talk on IRC right now ?
[17:33] <crush_groove> skif mine used to do that but it was a cable prob with the headphones .. or  maybe the jack .. if I wiggled it in the connection the speakers would mute
[17:33] <thor> Skif did you upgrade last night?
[17:33] <Skif> crush: unfortunately, I've got a very solid headphone connection. :(
[17:33] <jose> yes
[17:33] <Skif> thor: not last night
[17:33] <wols> JGJones: something recreated your initrd yesterday
[17:33] <crush_groove>  skif .. yea I figured I lucked up
[17:33] <Ali_ix> pastor: just type commands without quotes: ifconfig -a
[17:33] <neverblue> jose, so its online....
[17:34] <wols> JGJones: and you also installed a new kernel made on 18th
[17:34] <Freakingme> According to uname, the kernel version installed is: Linux dolf 2.6.22-14-generic. Apt-get upgrade want to install the packages  linux-headers-2.6.22-14 linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic. Any logics about that?
[17:34] <neverblue> jose, what seems to be the problem then ?
[17:34] <thor> Skif I have noticed a lot of problems today and a lot of them said they had done an automatic upgrade last night
[17:34] <jose> neverblue yes im online but if i disconect one card then doesnt work
[17:34] <CoasterMaster> What's the easiest way to write a 'batch' file in Linux?  I just need to run 6 commands.
[17:34] <Ali_ix> pastor: oh, sorry, type a 'sudo' first: sudo ifconfig -a
[17:34] <pastor> Ali_ix, ok, done. Now?
[17:34] <emo_ninja> CoasterMaster just write a bash script
[17:34] <Christina18__> Hi again, I just added WPA2 and password on the wireless router. What is the reason that I can not ping any website, but they work in FireFox ?
[17:34] <Ali_ix> paste teh out put into paste bin
[17:34] <Ali_ix> !paste | pastor
[17:34] <jose> neverblue it just worked yesterday for 10 seconds
[17:34] <ubotu> pastor: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:34] <Ali_ix> pastor: and give us teh link
[17:34] <CoasterMaster> emo_ninja, do I just put the commands on separate lines and CHMOD +x it?
[17:34] <emo_ninja> anyone know of an apache1.3 repo that's available in gutsy
[17:34] <neverblue> jose, 'it' ?
[17:35] <JGJones> wols: the new kernal that was installed was only what popped up in Ubuntu update, which I then installed.
[17:35] <wols> JGJones: root            (hd0,2)  is utterly wrong for a sda6 linux partition. make it (hd0,5)
[17:35] <emo_ninja> CoasterMaster yes, that would be fine with a #!/usr/bin/bash at the top
[17:35] <jose> neverblue it means the rtl 8029 AS card
[17:35] <Ali_ix> emo_ninja: ask in #ubuntu-server
[17:35] <Ali_ix> emo_ninja: they may know :)
[17:35] <CoasterMaster> emo_ninja, excellent, thanks!
[17:35] <krolow> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49045/
[17:35] <emo_ninja> thanks Ali_ix :)
[17:35] <neverblue> jose, your online right now, and not using that card ?
[17:35] <JGJones> wols: did that (in grub, pressed e to edit and changed it to (hd0,5) - doesn't work either.
[17:35] <pastor> Ali_ix, pastor@pastor-laptop:~$ !paste | pastor bash: !paste: event not found
[17:35] <JGJones> Disk don't exist.
[17:35] <jose> neverblue i have two cards on the computer, one works fine the other doesnt
[17:35] <krolow> i install kde4 but this corrumped my apt http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49045/
[17:36] <neverblue> jose, then maybe one is broken, why are you using two cards?
[17:36] <wols> JGJones: what doesn't exist?
[17:36] <r4wMUnt34q> Greetings everyone. I resized my partitions and the ext3 partition doesnt have that much free space as it should, I used GParted
[17:36] <Ali_ix> pastor: :} just copy the output of ifconfig command and go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste into text box there :)
[17:36] <neverblue> jose, test one individually, then the other, to confirm they each work
[17:36] <soroush> hi, wols
[17:36] <soroush> wols, thanks a lot for your help
[17:36] <Ali_ix> pastor: paste isn't a terminal command :)
[17:36] <jose> neverblue the rtl 8029 AS works fine in windows and in the 64 bits kernel
[17:37] <neverblue> jose so its a driver issue
[17:37] <soroush> wols, i could install my audio on generic kernell
[17:37] <soroush> *kernel
[17:37] <JGJones> wols: when I changed the line in grub from root=(hd0,2) to root(hd0,5) and then boot it'll just tell me the disk doesn't exist (or parition not found) - error 15 if I remember correctly.
[17:37] <Ali_ix> jose: isn't it the 10mbit old realtec nics?
[17:37] <soroush> but it doesn't work
[17:37] <r4wMUnt34q> Greetings everyone. I resized my partitions and the ext3 partition doesnt have that much free space as it should, I think. I used GParted...
[17:37] <soroush> i mean speaker icon isn't shown mute
[17:37] <jose> Ali_ix maybe yes
[17:37] <Ali_ix> jose: i have tried legacy driver in kernel config to get it work onve!
[17:37] <flibberdy> kitche: i start swat by just running sudo swat, but i can't then access http://localhost:901 (default address if the man page is to be believed)
[17:37] <Ali_ix> *once
[17:37] <soroush> but no sound can be heard
[17:37] <ADemiG0D> if i'm looking to crack the neighbors 128 Bit WEP, what program would be best suitable?
[17:38] <jose> Ali_ix how i do that?
[17:38] <wols> JGJones: starting windows does work I presume?
[17:38] <soroush> what can the problem be?
[17:38] <JGJones> wols: yes it does.
[17:38] <Ali_ix> jose: i have downloaded kernel source and compiled it manually
[17:38] <Ali_ix> jose: i think the driver didnt include in default ubuntu kernel
[17:38] <neverblue> jose I can no longer assist u, good luck
[17:38] <wols> JGJones: try (hd0,1) onwards then :)
[17:38] <pastor> Ali_ix, stupid me.
[17:38] <wols> one of them must work, makes no sense othrewise
[17:38] <jose> thx neverblue
[17:39] <rusty> http://tinyurl.com/249rjg
[17:39] <ADemiG0D> if i'm looking to crack a 128 Bit WEP, what program would be best suitable?
[17:39] <pastor> Ali_ix, done
[17:39] <Ali_ix> pastor: no, just newbie :)
[17:39] <Ali_ix> pastor: link?
[17:39] <r4wMUnt34q> Greetings everyone. I resized my partitions and the ext3 partition doesnt have that much free space as it should, I think. I used GParted...
[17:39] <jose> Ali_ix how i can find an step by step guide for do that?
[17:39] <wols> ADemiG0D: this channel does not endorse cracking
[17:39] <JGJones> wols: did it for hd0,1 to hd0,10 - no joy with any.
[17:39] <pastor> Ali_ix, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49046/
[17:39] <ADemiG0D> is there one that does? I've seen programs that do it in the repositories
[17:39] <soroush> oh. i found the problem
[17:39] <Ali_ix> jose: check howtoforge for ubuntu/debian specific guide
[17:39] <soroush> great
[17:39] <soroush> thanks alot
[17:39] <soroush> bye
[17:39] <JGJones> wols: also did hd0,0 as well.
[17:39] <luke-jr> How can I get madwifi on 7.10?
[17:39] <ADemiG0D> the default repositories too
[17:39] <wols> ADemiG0D: if you seen them, then use them if you must
[17:40] <wols> !madwifi | luke-jr
[17:40] <ADemiG0D> -.-
[17:40] <ubotu> luke-jr: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:40] <jose> ok i will
[17:40] <Ali_ix> pastor:  please paste these too: 'sudo route -n' and 'sudo cat /etc/resolv.conf'
[17:41] <JGJones> wols: This all started ever since I installed those kernel security updates - hence why I suggested that had fubar'ed my grub (if you read that forum thread, one reverted to previous kernel for it to work, sadly I don't have that)
[17:41] <Ali_ix> pastor: your local ip is: <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:41] <r4wMUnt34q> Greetings everyone. I resized my partitions and the ext3 partition doesnt have that much free space as it should, I think. I used GParted... And the processor is in 100% use all the tme now :(
[17:41] <wols> JGJones: change  groot=(hd0,2) to hd0,5
[17:41] <wols> then run sudo update-grub
[17:41] <Ali_ix> !repeat | r4wMUnt34q
[17:41] <ubotu> r4wMUnt34q: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[17:41] <luke-jr> wols: too bad it's not listed
[17:41] <wols> JGJones: kernel headers as you said are NOT kernels. big difference there
[17:42] <JGJones> wols - will do, to double-check - should I chroot into the disk before doing update-grub?
[17:42] <wols> luke-jr: apt-cache search madwifi
[17:42] <pastor> Ali_ix, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49048/
[17:42] <wols> JGJones: no!
[17:42] <IdanMA> Hello All, I have a FileSystem question.
[17:42] <wols> JGJones: stop. you are on a live cd now?
[17:42] <JGJones> wols: yes
[17:42] <wols> then chroot, yes. sorry
[17:42] <JGJones> :)
[17:42] <Ali_ix> JGJones: lol
[17:42] <JGJones> think I'll be able to do that in Windows(!) heh
[17:43] <Cygnet> hey guys, last night I tried to install a new nvidia video card (replacing intel integrated graphics) but with the new card installed, Linux won't boot
[17:43] <IdanMA> I'm reinstalling Ubuntu (7.10) on my laptop - Pentium 3 600MHz / 256MB Ram (100Mhz sdram) and I wonder what will be the best FS for a laptop.
[17:43] <wols> it does boot. just that X won't start. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. choose vesa
[17:43] <luke-jr> wols: only see userspace tools on packages.ubuntu.com
[17:43] <Cygnet> no, it doesn't finish booting
[17:43] <wols> Cygnet: then install the nvidia drivers from restricted
[17:43] <luke-jr> apt-cache of course requires internet to already be working
[17:44] <nemofish> i'm trying to install ubuntu onto the free space i had, and i did the partitions just as i liked, however when i clicked install, it seemed my cd drive just stopped working or powered off so the install doesn't complete. anyhelp? (using the live cd)
[17:44] <Ali_ix> pastor: retry it: sudo route -n
[17:44] <IdanMA> Anyone has a tip on my Q ?
[17:44] <Ali_ix> pastor:  i need also: sudo cat /etc/resolv.conf
[17:44] <Cygnet> it doesn't dump me to a prompt, I know I need to install drivers, but it gets stuck while trying to boot and I can't do anything
[17:45] <wols> Cygnet: failsafe boot?
[17:45] <pastor> Ali_ix, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49049/
[17:45] <Ali_ix> pastor: ok, your router ip is: <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:45] <wols> IdanMA: ext3
[17:45] <Ali_ix> pastor: type it ina browser
[17:46] <Cygnet> wols when I tried the recovery mode option I got the boot text but I couldn't tell what was going on at the point it got stuck
[17:46] <Synx_sleep> Anyone get flash video/flash in general working in 7.10?
[17:46] <Cygnet> how do I boot failsafe?
[17:46] <wols> Cygnet: init=/bin/bas as kernel parameted
[17:46] <wols> *parameter
[17:46] <pastor> Ali_ix, it says, problem loading page.
[17:46] <wols> that WILL give you a shell where you can dpkg-reconfigure
[17:46] <Ali_ix> !flashissue | Synx_sleep
[17:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashissue - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:46] <wols> Cygnet: init=/bin/bash  rather
[17:46] <Ali_ix> :|
[17:46] <IdanMA> wois: Could you please explain why it's better over ReiserFS - I need to squeeze any bit of performance from this old lappy.
[17:46] <duvnell> I"m using ubuntu desktop 32bit.. I have 8 gigs installed but it only sees 4.. do I need to install a different kernel?
[17:47] <inuyaga> question: Does anyone know how to change the way Gedit handled double click selection. I would like it to be able to select things like 'this_is_a_var123'
[17:47] <wols> IdanMA: reiser as no meaningufll error recovrey. preformance is always secondary to data loss
[17:47] <bulmer> anyone know if any inexpensive video-camera has the ability to use IIR(infra red) to use it as a mouse, ie it would detect let say a reflected dot and then it can be used as a mouse?
[17:47] <PriceChild> Ali_ix, i aliased that to flashissues
[17:47] <PriceChild> !flashissue | Ali_ix Synx_sleep
[17:47] <ubotu> Ali_ix Synx_sleep: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads.
[17:48] <IdanMA> wois: So I understand ReiserFS is faster for a desktop/laptop but has "stability" issues ?
[17:48] <Ali_ix> pastor: ok, check your router manuals, you should be able to access its web based control panel, and set the opendns servers as your main, permannt dns server in router, once you do this. there is no need to set opendns on your other local network systems
[17:48] <wols> IdanMA: you never will notice what is faster
[17:48] <inuyaga> ReiserFS is good for lots of little files. So /var ?
[17:48] <Ali_ix> PriceChild: thansk for info
[17:48] <linux4me> i'm trying to add an entry in /etc/fstab so that a new partition i created is mounted on boot. how do I determine the UUID?
[17:49] <wols> inuyaga: do you run a big mailserver with maildir?
[17:49] <IdanMA> wois; Ok, thanks. Should I turn on the "noatime" flag on fstab ?
[17:49] <inuyaga> cant tunefs list do the UUID
[17:49] <Ali_ix> linux4me: blkid command will list partions with uuids
[17:49] <pastor> Ali_ix, and the reason I cant's access the router DNS? Thoughts?
[17:49] <inuyaga> wols no I dont so I dont have Riser on my var
[17:49] <linux4me> Ali_ix - tks
[17:49] <wols> inuyaga: it's about the only scenario I can think of where reiser is truly king
[17:50] <inuyaga> I agree
[17:50] <Ali_ix> pastor: now, i have no idea why you cant access router CP, but it shouldnt be dns problem
[17:50] <pastor> Ali_ix, thank you for your time.
[17:50] <soccer_hawk10> hey all.  i've been having trouble recently with my ubuntu machine randomly freezing.  any idea what could be causing it? what information do you need from me to help me?
[17:50] <JGJones> wols: thanks for help...this is what I have done - mounted /dev/sda6 (linux partition) to /mnt/root and then mounted /proc into there as well as binded /dev into there and have updated menu.lst and run update-grub with no errors - All correct? If so, then I'll reboot unless I hear a scream coming from your direction :)
[17:50] <inuyaga> Well I think its better for more transaction like file structures but then why not just use a DB
[17:50] <Ali_ix> pastor: np, i wished i can solve this :}
[17:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone! I destroyed my sound with reverting from self-compiled alsa to Ubuntu's packages... Error message is here: http://nopaste.com/p/a7cnaFfL9
[17:51] <wols>  JGJones sounds fine. check you menu.lst if it noe speaks bout (hd0,5) eveywhere
[17:51] <wols> JGJones: as I said: you changed the groot line to (hd0,5)?
[17:51] <bmw330i> hello, I have a question: Ubuntu 7.10, T43 laptop, accesspoint has no encryption/security but every time I wake or boot I have to open Network Prefs, select an encryption type, type junk into the password field, delete it, then click ok for the Network to work. If I don't it shows enabled but I can't connect to anything.
[17:51] <inuyaga> but ya. Anyone know how to change the selection settings in GEdit?
[17:53] <Alyxander> hey guys question
[17:53] <JGJones> wols: groot - yes I have changed that to hd0,5 - but a question...is that the grub root? If so, would it not be in the first partition?
[17:53] <bulmer> bmw330i-> you can attempt to create a script to perform those steps and run it whenever you wakeboot ?
[17:53] <W8TAH> hi folks - i need some help -- ive been fighting for about 2 hours now trying to get my laptop to use the wireless connection more or less automatically -- in my mind when there is no wired connection present, it should automagickly connect via wireless if possible - but it wont -- it takes 10 mins of messing with configs and stuff to get it to connect - -HEEEEELLLLLPPPPP
[17:53] <wols> JGJones: where is your /boot ?
[17:53] <Alyxander> how do I create a PPC or mac version of an ISO?
[17:53] <MilhousePunkRock> bmw330i: The network manager is far from being perfect, I suggest you just configure you network manually with the /etc/network/interfaces
[17:53] <JGJones> wols: sda6 ok hd0,5 it is then
[17:53] <Mariodd> Is there somebody that tell me why my modem syddenly drop the line after 15-20 minutes
[17:53] <bmw330i> hi bulmer, agreed, was hoping to not have to. I wonder it's it's wpasupplicant related. I once had it setup but then just unlocked the access point
[17:53] <mrdinkles> Im using 7.10-- Im attempting to rip songs off of a cd with rythmbox-- It loads the songs then closes out of rythmbox-- its not hidden anywhere..it just closes...
[17:54] <wols> Mariodd: check your syslog
[17:54] <linux4me> blkid only show me the uuid of /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda5. I need the uuid for /dev/sda3
[17:54] <bulmer> bmw330i-> you may have to toy with the settings in your /etc/network/interfaces file, ie remove essid and keys
[17:54] <thor> bmw330i I dumped wpa in favour of mac address filtering. It is much more secure and wpa gave me headaches
[17:55] <bmw330i> MilhousePunkRock: Ah, just edit that? Good idea. I thought the GUI did that.
[17:55] <Alyxander> any ideas?
[17:55] <MilhousePunkRock> thor: MAC adresses can easily be spoofed...
[17:55] <IdanMA> wois: Should I enable the "noatime" flag on fstab ?
[17:55] <wols> IdanMA: no
[17:55] <JGJones> linux4me - I usually ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid - it'll show which sda(n) it points to
[17:55] <thor> MilhousePunkRock but they would have to be on your network to sniff it
[17:55] <thor> MilhousePunkRock and without ssid broadcast...they don't even know it is there
[17:55] <MilhousePunkRock> bmw330i: It does, but manual is probably better... Maybe you need to stop or even uninstall network manager... Another thing you could try is wicd, wireless internet connection demon, in my taste way better than nm
[17:55] <bulmer> MilhousePunkRock-> and they have to spend a lot of time to recover it?
[17:55] <IdanMA> wois: Could you explain why ? What benefit will I gain from having it on/off ?
[17:56] <JGJones> ok ...now I'm off to reboot, fingers and toes crossed...
[17:56] <MilhousePunkRock> thor: That's what you think... Hidden SSID is useless
[17:56] <wols> IdanMA: I won't
[17:57] <bmw330i> bulmer, thank you, agreed; thor, ya, I did that, was a pain but I also agree with Milhouse....I'd like to just turn down the power on the access point low enough to keep them out by proximity
[17:57] <rafaelsoaresbr>  I've installed restriced codecs, but I still can't see .rm files...
[17:57] <wols> !rela | rafaelsoaresbr
[17:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rela - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:57] <wols> !real | rafaelsoaresbr
[17:57] <ubotu> rafaelsoaresbr: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:57] <infinital> Hello,can someone help me with a problem I am having with ubuntu?
[17:57] <wols> !ask |inf
[17:57] <ubotu> inf: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[17:57] <wols> !ask | infinital
[17:57] <ubotu> infinital: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[17:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Alyxander: You say you want to make a PPC version out of an x86 iso? I'd say that's pretty much impossible
[17:58] <Alyxander> hidden ssid is just that hidden security by obscurity. Also runing without some kind of encrytion in lew of just mac addressing is not such a good I dea all one would have to is spoof a mac
[17:58] <infinital> okay, id like to have ubuntu boot directly to terminal and execute a program/file.. is there a way to do that? i dont want a GUI, i just want it to boot up and run a macromedia flash file
[17:58] <mrdinkles> Im using 7.10-- Im attempting to rip songs off of a cd with rythmbox-- It loads the songs then closes out of rythmbox-- its not hidden anywhere..it just closes... any ideas?
[17:58] <Alyxander> and MilhousePunkRock no no there are already ppc iso for ubuntu im developing on GEubuntu and just realized it would run like melted butter on a ppc
[17:58] <wols> infinital: how do you propose to run a flash file wihtout GUI?
[17:58] <MilhousePunkRock> infinital: Remove GMD from you runlevels
[17:59] <ubuntu__> ola soy nuevo qen me puede ayudar
[17:59] <wols> !es | ubuntu__
[17:59] <goldphish> wols: Could you walk me through the process of using make-kpkg to build a kernel module? I'm getting nowhere fast with this.
[17:59] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:59] <infinital> well in windows, you can execute .bat files that run other programs... im hoping to do something similar here
[17:59] <mahrellon> Are there any known problems with latest Nvidia drivers and Ubuntu 7.10 that you guys know of?
[17:59] <ubuntu__> ok
[17:59] <mahrellon> Or is it safe to install/update :)
[17:59] <wols> goldphish: since I don't know what this "UTS" is: not really
[17:59] <MilhousePunkRock> infinital: A shell script that is executed on boot
[17:59] <chazco> mahrellon - I'm using 7.10 with Nvidia drivers, seems fine to me
[17:59] <wols> goldphish: but I gave you the quick+dirty way before :)
[18:00] <wols> goldphish: you have configured the kernel sources with make menuconfig?
[18:00] <infinital> okay. how would you do this milhouse, or can you point me to teh documentation?
[18:00] <Dr_willis> infinital, depends on the specifcs of what you are runnign, and as what user.
[18:00] <pike_> infinital: scripting in linux is head and shoulders better than windows so yeah you can do whatever you want
[18:00] <mahrellon> chazco: But, are you using the very latest drivers from nvidia? I'm just about to upgrade by using envy but don't wanna "brick" my system. :)
[18:00] <MilhousePunkRock> mahrellon: There is some tweaking needed if you plan to suspend/hibernate, other than that, no problems
[18:00] <Dr_willis> infinital,  removing the GDM service will make the system boot to the console.
[18:00] <chazco> Hmm... not sure if they're the absolute latest
[18:00] <mahrellon> MilhousePunkRock, Ah, cheers m8. I never turn off my computer anyhow :)
[18:00] <mahrellon> Chazco, thanks m8. :)
[18:01] <infinital> once in console, what do I need to do to get it to execute the shell script and run this:http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html?
[18:01] <wols> mahrellon: we do not support envy at all.
[18:01] <pastor> Anyone want to try ans take a stab at why I can't accesss my router's IP?
[18:01] <goldphish> wols: no, I didn't think I had to build a whole kernel.
[18:01] <ip00n> my live cd (7.04) isnt detecting my pendrive.. any help_?
[18:01] <wols> mahrellon: if you want to break your ubuntu, fine, but don't ask us for support
[18:01] <bulmer> infinital-> you can search for kiosk like  setup ..it may do what you wan to achieve, no user intervention
[18:01] <MilhousePunkRock> mahrellon: In that case you really should consider hibernating ;) 10 seconds to be back from a complete power off... Saves energy...
[18:01] <mahrellon> wols: Yeah I know that but my question wasnt about envy. It was about if it's safe to use the latest nv drivers :P
[18:01] <bulmer> pastor-> do you get an ip address from your router/(acting also as dhcp server) ?
[18:01] <MilhousePunkRock> mahrellon: nv or nvidia-glx?
[18:01] <IdanMA> What does the user_xattr attribute do ? I can't find any info about it except Beagle. But Beagle isn't used anymore by 7.10 (default) so should it be enabled or just turned off ?
[18:02] <mahrellon> MilhousePunkRock: nvidia-glx. I'm using Compiz fusion atm.
[18:02] <wols> mahrellon: take your deceptions elsewhere. what you get via restricted drives from ubuntu is safe. everything else we don't give a fsck about
[18:02] <infinital> okay. this is to be used to run in a presentation room that runs the same presentation everytime a group comes in.
[18:02] <infinital> thanks
[18:02] <mahrellon> wols, aight m8. No need to get upset. I was merely asking.
[18:02] <wols> mahrellon: you were deceiving and you know it
[18:02] <pastor> bulmer, Not sure what that means. Break it down for me?
[18:02] <bulmer> infinital-> a kiosk like setup is perfect i believe..you can possibly even put it in a usb thumbdrive and boot off oit
[18:03] <goldphish> wols: Supposedly module-assistant should do the trick but when I give it the module name 'keyspan' is says 'keyspan, what is keyspan?'
[18:03] <MilhousePunkRock> mahrellon: I am running the latest nvidia-glx-new from the stock repo, no problems whatsoever... Well, the resolution was wrong and could not be changed at first, but manually setting an apropriate screen fixed that
[18:03] <wols> goldphish: m-a needs packages with the driver. source packages basically
[18:03] <bulmer> pastor-> please elaborate on your network layout so we dont keep guessing on what you got and what is connected to what
[18:03] <wols> goldphish: do a make menuconfig and only change the keyspan setting to M
[18:03] <mrdinkles> Im using 7.10-- Im attempting to rip songs off of a cd with rythmbox-- It loads the songs then closes out of rythmbox-- its not hidden anywhere..it just closes...
[18:03] <mahrellon> wols, wasn't my intention. I just wanted to know if it was safe to use the latest drivers and I didn't really think about being deceptive asking about official nv drivers.  Error message is here: http://nopaste.com/p/a7cnaFfL9
[18:04] <Alyxander> mrdinkles, check your system logs and see what error your getting
[18:04] <mahrellon> MilhousePunkRock, thanks m8. I'll try them.
[18:04] <ip00n> it's ntfs, does that matter?
[18:04] <wols> ip00n: what does dmesg say?
[18:04] <ip00n> dmesg?
[18:04] <pike_> ip00n: unplug/replug then type dmesg | tail  do you see a sda or sdb or sdc or whatever detected?
[18:04] <ip00n> in terminal?
[18:04] <nitro4ce> hi. is there a way to make a directory behave like a http site? for example: i enter my ip adress and it opens index.html file inside that directory?
[18:04] <wols> ip00n: yes
[18:04] <ip00n> 1 sec
[18:04] <Alyxander> or mrdinkles run rythmbox from the terminal and see what error you get
[18:04] <MilhousePunkRock> ip00n: Probably... Could be that you dont have ntfs support
[18:04] <wols> nitro4ce: run a webserver with that document root
[18:05] <ip00n> wow, dmseg procudec pages of text..
[18:05] <pastor> bulmer, ok, I have a wireless satellite connection that runs into my D-Link connecting my router to my laptop. 604+.
[18:05] <ip00n> what do i look for?
[18:05] <pike_> ip00n: very bottom
[18:05] <bulmer> nitro4ce-> look into using netcat, neat tool, can do/create a webserver without writing one
[18:05] <mrdinkles> Alyxander: which log should i look at?
[18:06] <cherva> can you tell me simple application to cut unneeded parts of a wav file
[18:06] <Alyxander> just run rytmbox from the terminal and then try to rip your cd and see what error pops up mrdinkles
[18:06] <ip00n> NTFS-sf warning
[18:06] <MilhousePunkRock> cherva: Audacity
[18:06] <MilhousePunkRock> !audacity | cherva
[18:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audacity - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:06] <bulmer> pastor-> ummm by default satellite connection will be wireless, hard to lash up 29,000 miles of cable..
[18:06] <MilhousePunkRock> !package audacity | cherva
[18:06] <Alyxander> MilhousePunkRock, what a good application to add music to your mp4?
[18:07] <Alyxander> *whats
[18:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Alyxander: I know nothing about MP4 ;)
[18:07] <George> how can I get my /usr/local/lib/ to be linked to any program I use, for example if I run an ogre3d app it tells me it needs ogreMain which is in /usr/local/lib, is there a way to make it "public" to all the programs/
[18:07] <Alyxander> MilhousePunkRock, mpeg 4 video files
[18:07] <pike_> ip00n: not very very bottom but like do dmesg | tail -n 30 to just get last 30 lines
[18:07] <bulmer> pastor-> anyhows, D-link is your router and it has a connectivity to the other end (via satellite) ?
[18:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Alyxander: I know that, but I have never edited any and don't plan on doing that
[18:07] <pastor> bulmer, lol, ok. I live in the country.
[18:07] <Alyxander> ok
[18:07] <mrdinkles> Alyxander: the rythmbox opens for example-- I clicked on the top to move the screen around when i started to move it, it closed-- Could this be because i have compiz fusion or maybe a change with that?
[18:08] <pike_> ip00n: is this a windows formated pendrive? what i mean is most are fat32 but it may be ntfs
[18:08] <pastor> bulmer, the dish is on top of my roof, and recieves its connection via sattalite. From there a wire runs down the house into my study.
[18:08] <goldphish> wols: hmm now it's comlaining 'error: curses.h: No such file or directory'. I have ncurses installed. Which package provides curses.h?
[18:08] <Alyxander> well if you suspect it to be compiz turn compiz off then try it but are your running it from the terminal so you can see the crash error? mrdinkles
[18:08] <ip00n> i remember formatting my pendrive to ntfs
[18:09] <wols> goldphish: the ncurses dev package
[18:09] <bulmer> pastor-> again, D-link is your router ? it has a connectivity to the other end (via satellite) which you already verified right??
[18:09] <pastor> yes, D-Link is my router.
[18:09] <pastor> bulmer, D-link is my router
[18:10] <bulmer> pastor-> you have verified it has a connectivity to the other end yes? how did you verify this?
[18:10] <JGJones> wols: thanks for help - all fixed now. No idea how the grub changed itself to hd0,2 in the first place though.
[18:10] <pastor> bulmer, Well I'm on line. Does that count?
[18:10] <mrdinkles> Alyxander: whats the command to run any program like this through terminal?
[18:11] <wols> JGJones: me neither
[18:11] <bulmer> pastor-> well thats why I asked earlier to elaborate so we will understand your connectivity, you didnt mention you are already sharing same router connectivity
[18:11] <Alyxander> mrdinkles, rythmbox, if im miss spelling the name im sorry
[18:11] <wols> mrdinkles: open an xterm, start program, see output of program
[18:11] <bulmer> pastor->  hard to guess ones setup lest they elaborate an explanation
[18:11] <il-luzhin> hey folks
[18:12] <il-luzhin> can someone direct me to a Jack howto please?
[18:12] <MilhousePunkRock> !jack
[18:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:12] <mrdinkles> wols: whats xterm?
[18:12] <bulmer> pastor-> since you are connected now, i assume using microsoft and not linux?
[18:12] <MilhousePunkRock> What's wrong with the bot?
[18:12] <il-luzhin> thnx
[18:12] <ip00n> pike_: i dont see sda or sdb or sdc...
[18:12] <pastor> bulmer, my laptop and one other Ununtu computer share this router (D-Link).
[18:12] <wols> mrdinkles: generic term for "X terminal"
[18:12] <mrdinkles> Alyxander: says command rythmbox not found
[18:13] <mrdinkles> wols: nothing shows when i open terminal, then open rythmbox
[18:13] <pastor> bulmer, both are Ubuntu.
[18:13] <mrdinkles> wols: nothing in the terminal shows
[18:13] <wols> mrdinkles: since you didn't start it, duh!
[18:13] <bulmer> pastor-> of the 3 sharing the D-Link, how many are not working or rather dont have the internet access?
[18:13] <pci> pastor:  what's your distro?
[18:13] <mrdinkles> wols: how do i start it with terminal lol
[18:13] <goldphish> wols: cool, got the kernel reconfigured. Now what? can I just do 'make modules'?
[18:14] <wols> mrdinkles: by typing int he executable name and pressing enter
[18:14] <wols> goldphish: yes
[18:14] <Alyxander> rhythmbox, mrdinkles
[18:14] <Alyxander> is the command
[18:14] <cliebow> test
[18:14] <pastor> bulmer, both computers share the internet, and are online right now. Both using Ubuntu, and FireFox.
[18:14] <pike_> ip00n: try lsusb do you see it there?
[18:14] <wols> cliebow: test failed
[18:14] <Alyxander> if it says not found it should tell you its not installed
[18:14] <wols> Alyxander: huh?
[18:15] <bulmer> pastor-> so which pc and os is not connected then?
[18:15] <pike_> ip00n: this normally works without any effort on your part not sure what the prob is
[18:15] <wols> Alyxander: it would help if you'd spelled it right
[18:15] <boris> can anyone reccomend me a distro, smilar to ubuntu, it should have tremulous in the repos
[18:15] <mrdinkles> Alyxander: wow...thats sad-- okay the error is *** stack smashing detected ***: rhythmbox terminated
[18:15] <mrdinkles> Aborted (core dumped)
[18:15] <pike_> boris: debian :)
[18:15] <wols> boris: this is #ubuntu. We ONLY recommend ubuntu obviously
[18:15] <boris> fglrx driver broke and i want to try something else
[18:15] <ip00n> pike_: it only lists my belkin wireless USB thingy
[18:15] <xoqa> http://pastebin.com/m71773505  -any reason why the script aborted?
[18:15] <pike_> ip00n: try another usb port
[18:15] <soccer_hawk10> hey all, can someone try to help me diagnose a problem? my computer 7.10 keeps freezing randomly...
[18:15] <xoqa> trying to get the graphics on this sytem to work properly...
[18:15] <boris> wols: thank you very much !
[18:15] <ip00n> but could it be the NTFS formatting?
[18:15] <pastor> bulmer, both are connected. The one I am on now is the one I'm trying to access the router IP through to no avail.
[18:15] <MilhousePunkRock> soccer_hawk10: Did you do a memtest?
[18:16] <soccer_hawk10> MilhousePunkRock: yes, it was fine
[18:16] <wols> ip00n: no. it'd be recognized regardless by the kernel
[18:16] <ReVo-Eirik> Hi, I'm having problems with booting from the install CD, could someone help me?
[18:16] <MilhousePunkRock> soccer_hawk10: How many runs?
[18:16] <pike_> boris: there is a distro only for linux games try distrowatch to find it
[18:16] <wols> soccer_hawk10: for how long?
[18:16] <pastor> bulmer, http://<IP_ADDRESS> is my router IP, but I cant get the page to open.
[18:16] <mrdinkles> wols: *** stack smashing detected ***: rhythmbox terminated
[18:16] <mrdinkles> Aborted (core dumped)
[18:16] <ip00n> that's truly strange then..
[18:16] <boris> pike_: thats not what im looking for
[18:16] <Spiro> greetings, having an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ 2.01 GHz which version of Ubuntu to choose (i386, i686, or and64)?
[18:16] <bulmer> pastor are you referring to the your side of the pc or the wan side?
[18:17] <MilhousePunkRock> pastor: Maybe you have a mac/ip restriction which PC can access it?
[18:17] <soccer_hawk10> wols, MilhousePunkRock: i let it run all the way through on standard settings or whatever.  i'm convinced the ram isn't the problem
[18:17] <ReVo-Eirik> Hi, could someone help me?=
[18:17] <Alyxander> wols, yeah i know i dont use it so i already apologized for the miss spelling mrdinkles google the error msg
[18:17] <wols> soccer_hawk10:please answer my question. "how long" reuqires a time as an answer
[18:17] <pike_> Spiro: if you dont care about 64 bit go with i386 you wont see a big improvement in 64 anyway in general desktop stuff though there is some
[18:17] <mrdinkles> alyxander: lol, not sure how i messed it up either lol
[18:17] <MilhousePunkRock> soccer_hawk10: Dust in the case maybe, therefore thermal problems? All cards properly seated?
[18:17] <Ayabara> hey. after a kernel upgrade yesterday, the sound on my ubuntu no longer works. when I run alsamixer in terminal, it says: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[18:18] <soccer_hawk10> wols: sorry, i just don't know what that means... i believe it ran for about fourty minutes
[18:18] <pike_> Spiro: i have sempron 64 and have never bothered installing 64bit distro on it
[18:18] <wols> !sound
[18:18] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[18:18] <bulmer> pastor-> or are you referring to the config page of your D-link ?
[18:18] <Elive_user42> ubuntu won't boot. it crashes at the NetWork manager
[18:18] <pastor> I think so bulmer.
[18:18] <wols> soccer_hawk10: come back when you ran it at least 4 hours or better overnight. 40 minutes is not enough for testing memory
[18:18] <Elive_user42> full error message at this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3979769#post3979769
[18:19] <soccer_hawk10> wols: it's not the memory.  XP runs several days on end with no problem, ubuntu doesn't
[18:19] <Spiro> good, now, what is i386 for and i686 for? Isn't it better to choose i686? Anyone can explain?
[18:19] <bulmer> pastor-> so which one are you attempting to get to ? ip address wise..the wan side or the webserver based config of D-Link?
[18:19] <wols> soccer_hawk10: that is not conclusive either, sorry
[18:19] <wols> soccer_hawk10: disable acpi
[18:19] <soccer_hawk10> wols: your only suggestion is memory?
[18:19] <Alyxander> soccer_hawk10, sorry to have you reexplain your problem, but whats happening?
[18:19] <ngirard> Hi all, I need to print a number of booklets using my deskjet printer, but the prints get shifted. Do you know about a tool to help me get perfectly aligned prints ?
[18:19] <wols> no. my suggestions only are meant on how to do a proper memtest
[18:20] <soccer_hawk10> wols: one that i don't need... thanks, i'll keep it in mind
[18:20] <Elive_user42> anybody?
[18:20] <wols> soccer_hawk10: nvidia drivers? or fglrx?
[18:20] <soccer_hawk10> Alyxander: intel
[18:20] <soccer_hawk10> oops
[18:20] <Spiro> pike_, good, now, what is i386 for and i686 for? Isn't it better to choose i686? Anyone can explain?
[18:20] <bulmer> pastor-> am guessing you're attempting to reach the config webserver...try <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>  instead
[18:20] <soccer_hawk10> wols: intel
[18:21] <soccer_hawk10> Alyxander: ubuntu machine randomly freezes.  seems to happen most, but not exclusively, when streaming audio or video
[18:21] <boris> can i somehow reconfigure everything graphics related ?
[18:21] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia: Are you around
[18:21] <ljcasey> boris, elaborate.
[18:21] <Jack_Sparrow> boris: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:21] <soccer_hawk10> wols: how do i disable ACPI
[18:22] <ifireball> soccer_hawk10: sound like a hardware/heating problem, try checking the gfx card's fans
[18:22] <pike_> Spiro: there isnt a huge deal with that technically in theory you may see improvement with 686 compiled but.. if you are using a generic kernel not one you compiled the advantages are not really there see this
[18:22] <MilhousePunkRock> soccer_hawk10: boot with "acpi=off"
[18:22] <pike_> !generic | Spiro
[18:22] <ubotu> Spiro: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[18:22] <boris> Jack_Sparrow: COMPLETELY reconfigure graphics, remove all the drivers (fglrx, leftovers of radeon),... ?
[18:22] <soccer_hawk10> ifireball: that's kinda my instinct but i'm not sure... XP is fine, and i have an integrated intel graphics card
[18:22] <soccer_hawk10> MilhousePunkRock: would i edit that under grub?
[18:23] <MilhousePunkRock> soccer_hawk10: Well, you can edit it one time on the grub menu to try if that helps at all
[18:23] <Tomterer> I have a USB hdd. whenever I plug it in, I want it to automatically mount to a particular directory. where do I look for that kind of settings?
[18:23] <barefoot> hello, anyone get root-tail working? it starts okay but I get no output on the desktop, need to edit nautilus or something?
[18:24] <wols> asowith a boot parameter
[18:24] <soccer_hawk10> i just don't know how to boot with acpi=off.  i.e. where do i put that argument.  what config file
[18:24] <wols> soccer_hawk10: either edit in menu.lst or press e on the boot menu
[18:24] <Spiro> Lastly, I have been using kubuntu for a year now. Even before choosing kubuntu I have always had problems when upgrading kde, mostly related to my profile where I had to create a mew account and reverse all my data over to the new account. What about ubuntu (with gnome)?
[18:24] <soccer_hawk10> thanks wols
[18:24] <ifireball> soccer_hawk10: try configuring Xorg to use generic VESA drivers rather then the specialised intel ones, see what happens
[18:24] <wols> soccer_hawk10: and as others suggested checking the temp of videocard and CPU would be a good thing to do too
[18:24] <Jack_Sparrow> boris: Since I dont know what all you installed and where it came from .. no I dont have a quick answer
[18:25] <hiddenghost> Hi, i need some help with my graphics
[18:25] <soccer_hawk10> a good temperature to shoot for is what, wols? i think it generally runs at 147 fahrenheit
[18:25] <soccer_hawk10> the CPU i mean
[18:25] <mrdinkles> Stack smashing error-- Core dumped using Rhythmbox-- Anyone experienced this before?-- Google said it was a security issue and i should dl some stuff... any ideas?
[18:25] <bundagan> is flash-nonfree broken in gusty?
[18:25] <boris> Jack_Sparrow: Radeon opensource driver and fglrx 7.11
[18:25] <soccer_hawk10> bundagen yes
[18:25] <soccer_hawk10> if i'm not mistaken
[18:25] <boris> Jack_Sparrow: i installed the fglrx driver manually, not from repos
[18:26] <Tomterer> I have a USB hdd. whenever I plug it in, I want it to mount to a particular directory. how to?
[18:26] <Ali_ix> !flashissues | bundagan
[18:26] <ubotu> bundagan: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads.
[18:26] <hiddenghost> I have been using blender to make 3d and there seems to be a problem with the zbuffer for 3d graphics.
[18:26] <Jack_Sparrow> boris: Yea.. figured that..
[18:26] <xoqa> anyone mind helping me getting the ati drivers to work?
[18:26] <pike_> Spiro: ive not noticed any such issues but i dont use gnome a great deal so maybe someone else here can answer that. usually though.. ive used same config files on diff distros with diff versions of gnome and not noticed but issues
[18:27] <Spiro> but can I use another Desktop Manager beside kde and gnome?
[18:27] <ip00n> i dont get it. my pendrive isnt detected... im running a liveCd, ok, but it should take this long.
[18:27] <ip00n> please, anyone?
[18:27] <Ali_ix> Spiro: yes you genereally can
[18:27] <hiddenghost> I was told elsewhere on a form to adjust my 3d acceleration
[18:27] <Spiro> in an easy way to install nd which ones I can choose from?
[18:28] <kaukse> Hi everyone
[18:28] <hiddenghost> 3d acceleration was a good fix for windows, but what do I do in ubuntu
[18:28] <hiddenghost> My work flow would be enhanced by the zbuffer do what it should.
[18:29] <soccer_hawk10> wols: what temperature am i hoping my machine will be below
[18:29] <kaukse> Anyone knows a good website listing linux hardware compatibility ?
[18:29] <Phusion> hiddenghost: sounds like a driver issue to me, what hardware you runnin?
[18:29] <Phusion> kaukse: might want to try google for that one
[18:29] <lonejack>  hi, how can be possible to use file browser as root(admin)? When I open it I can see dirs but I can't create dirs or file (due to permission). Is there an easy way to do that? Thank you
[18:29] <Ali_ix> lonejack: you can try: sudo nautilus in gnome
[18:29] <Phusion> lonejack: root protected files are protected for a reason, so be careful
[18:30] <Jack_Sparrow> lonejack: gksudo nautlius
[18:30] <Ali_ix> lonejack: is is not recommended to use it regurally
[18:30] <Tomterer> Please guys... I have a USB hdd. whenever I plug it in, I want it to mount to a particular directory. how to?
[18:30] <nickrud> lonejack, if you run nautilus, as root, see Jack_Sparrow
[18:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Ali_ix: bad idea to sudo a gui
[18:30] <hiddenghost> Phusion: do you mean what graphics card?
[18:30] <Phusion> hiddenghost: thats right
[18:30] <lonejack> nickrud, thank you
[18:30] <Ali_ix> Jack_Sparrow:  just a quick and dirty answer, alt f2 + gksudo whould be nice
[18:30] <bundagan> note to maintainers, wings3d is still broken, been broken since feisty
[18:30] <Jack_Sparrow> lonejack: If you want to spend much time as root in a file manager.. look into thunar or somethine lighter than nautilus
[18:31] <ip00n> ok, i managed to open my pendrive now, but im unable to write to it. any help? its ntfs
[18:31] <nickrud> lonejack, I came in last :)
[18:31] <pteague_work> what exactly does beagled do & why is it eating up 91% cpu?
[18:31] <Ali_ix> pteague_work: it is a desktop search app, indexes your files
[18:31] <Dr_willis> it indexes every so often
[18:32] <Ali_ix> pteague_work: you can try tracker instead, it is more resource friendly
[18:32] <nickrud> lonejack, but it would be worth your while to learn the terminal commands for working on system files, it's good to keep them conceptually separate from your personal stuff. Safer
[18:32] <The_Doctor2> hi
[18:32] <nixi> hi, i've trouble with grub.. first i installed ubuntu on my laptop and after a few weeks i installed XP. Now my MBR is overwritten and i want to change it back that i can boot both..
[18:32] <The_Doctor2> is there an equivelant to Launchy for Ubuntu?
[18:32] <hiddenghost> Phusion: I think it's intel
[18:32] <pteague_work> for some reason i have both trackerd & beagled running at the same time
[18:32] <The_Doctor2> nixi: Grub Floppy
[18:32] <Phusion> hiddenghost: well, thats a very poor 3d accelerator
[18:33] <mrdinkles> Stack smashing error-- Core dumped using Rhythmbox-- Anyone experienced this before?-- Google said it was a security issue and i should dl some stuff... any ideas?
[18:33] <nickrud> lol, pteague_work that's redundant. unless you have your drives mounted with the user_xattr option, stick with tracker
[18:33] <Ali_ix> pteague_work: so you can config beagle to track and index less directories
[18:33] <hiddenghost> Phusion: what do you mean?
[18:33] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: did you call
[18:33] <wols> soccer_hawk10: that depends on CPU and chipset and videocard
[18:33] <robdig> !grub |  nixi
[18:33] <ubotu> nixi: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:33] <kaukse> Phusion: Yeah, If that's the only solution... I might try to create such a website someday :)
[18:33] <OldSpice> Anyone know where Firefox is stored right after installing Ubuntu? I have to migrate my bookmarks and such from Windows.
[18:33] <ip00n> please, can someone help me to write things onto my ntfs pendrive?
[18:34] <loucas> !drivers
[18:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:34] <Phusion> hiddenghost: Intel's 3d accelerators are crappy, I'd imagine any support for them would be poor
[18:34] <soccer_hawk10> wols: ballpark guess: pentium 4, 865 intel chipset, integrated graphics
[18:34] <ikonia> OldSpice: you need ~/.firefox
[18:34] <Phusion> kaukse: :)
[18:34] <pteague_work> k, there we go...  nowhere near as bad
[18:34] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia: yes.. but forgot why atm
[18:34] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: no problem
[18:34] <Ali_ix> OldSpice: look in your user home directory for .mozilla directory
[18:34] <Phusion> kaukse: http://www.linux-drivers.org/
[18:34] <OldSpice> Okay thank you.
[18:34] <wols> soccer_hawk10: which P4? prescott is different from northwood...
[18:34] <Phusion> kaukse: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/
[18:34] <wols> soccer_hawk10: as a rule of thumb 50-60° with a P4 northwood IIRC. old cpu :)
[18:35] <Phusion> kaukse: http://www.linux.org/hardware/
[18:35] <hiddenghost> Phusion: I see. what would you suggest for proper hardware to get good 3d acceleration.
[18:35] <soccer_hawk10> prescott i think, but i'm not sure
[18:35] <wols> hiddenghost: nvidia
[18:35] <kaukse> Phusion: for now my only goal is to build a new computer which I'm sure it's fully supported...
[18:35] <Phusion> hiddenghost: Nvidia Geforce 6 series
[18:35] <wols> soccer_hawk10: presshots are quite a bit hotter than northwoods
[18:35] <Phusion> kaukse: ok, well thats not too tough these days, most stuff works
[18:35] <Phusion> kaukse: most incompatibility lies in peripherals
[18:36] <komputes> does anyone know the command to close an ssh session?
[18:36] <nickrud> komputes, exit
[18:36] <wols> Phusion: gf7 works fine btw
[18:36] <komputes> nickrud: thanks
[18:36] <soccer_hawk10> my cpu tends to run at about 147 or 150 fahrenheit
[18:36] <Phusion> wols: yeah I was just saying, 6 series and up
[18:36] <hiddenghost> Phusion: I have seen a lot about those on the ubuntu forums.
[18:36] <hiddenghost> wols: thanks
[18:36] <wols> soccer_hawk10: SI units please
[18:36] <OldSpice> ikonia: what is ~/.firefox?
[18:36] <Phusion> hiddenghost: yeah, Ubuntu supports both ATI and Nvidia cards natively now
[18:36] <ikonia> OldSpice: your home dir and a directory called .firefox
[18:36] <ikonia> OldSpice: it may be .mozilla depending on your version
[18:36] <wols> Phusion: not necessarily GF8 series. except the very expensive ones or the shitty ones
[18:36] <RoDoX> folks i want to install mozilla's instantbird, but the installer is zipped on a tar.gz package. how can i unzip the installer and run it?
[18:37] <Phusion> hiddenghost: do you have an AGP system? I'd imagine you do.
[18:37] <Ali_ix> OldSpice: ~ reffers to your home directory, like /home/ali_ix
[18:37] <robert_> BaBY`25` is spamming
[18:37] <Phusion> wols: right.
[18:37] <PriceChild> robert_, thanks, aware.
[18:37] <robert_> PriceChild, no prob.
[18:37] <nickrud> RoDoX, tar xf <tar.gz file>
[18:37] <soccer_hawk10> wols: alrighty, hang on just a sec.  i don't remember how to convert it off the bat
[18:37] <ip00n> please, how to write to ntfs formatted pendrive?
[18:37] <lonejack> nickrud, thank you, I did what I want...
[18:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs-3g > ip00n
[18:37] <wols> soccer_hawk10: 65°C
[18:37] <RoDoX> nickrud: gonna try...
[18:38] <hiddenghost> Phusion: AGP? what's that? sorry my ignorance.
[18:38] <soccer_hawk10> yes :) google works its magic
[18:38] <OldSpice> ali_ix: i just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu now, and im in my home/username but i dont see any .firefox or .mozilla, all i see is documents/music/pictures/public/templates/videos/etc
[18:38] <wols> hiddenghost: what computer do you have? what chipset on the mainboard?
[18:38] <nickrud> lonejack, yw, (I do run that ever so often myself, but I usually find some sweat on my brow afterwards :)
[18:38] <kaukse> Phusion: you're right. But a good website would enable some people to build "specialized" pcs (music, video....) easily
[18:38] <Jack_Sparrow> OldSpice: ./ means hidden....
[18:38] <rusty> http://tinyurl.com/2ftdlt a funny little joke...
[18:38] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: it means "current directory"
[18:38] <hiddenghost> wols: intel
[18:38] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: hidden is simple .file
[18:39] <kbrosnan> OldSpice: if using the file manager try pressing ctrl + H
[18:39] <wols> hiddenghost: and which intel?
[18:39] <Lrac> Hi, I'm adding more memory to my comp, is there a way to increase the size of my swap partition? My hard drive has quite a bit of available unused (not in any partition) space
[18:39] <Ali_ix> OldSpice: try ls -a in terminal
[18:39] <ip00n> jack_sparrow: i cant install that g3 thing. i cant find ntfs-config, and i just dont get it.
[18:39] <ip00n> please help me
[18:39] <nixternal> anyone else just receive a private message from seker?
[18:39] <RoDoX> nickrud: nothing happened
[18:39] <Ali_ix> OldSpice: files and directories starting with "." are hidden by default
[18:39] <askand> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html This seems to be the latest official atidriver..is there an inofficial betadriver too?
[18:39] <wols> Lrac: delete the swap partition (unmount it first), then recreate it
[18:39] <filemonkey> Hey guys, does anyone know how to configure xserver through bash to use the vesa drivers?
[18:39] <nickrud> RoDoX, now do ls, you should see the unpacked directory
[18:39] <kaukse> Phusion: anyway thanks for the links, that's a good starting point.
[18:40] <wols> askand: ask ati. ubuntu only has what is in the restricted repo
[18:40] <Jack_Sparrow> wols: in context...  he is not seeing his hidden folders and files
[18:40] <RoDoX> nickrud: yes
[18:40] <soccer_hawk10> wols: i updated RAM a while back, but never added to my swap partition.  could that be causing problems?
[18:40] <wols> filemonkey: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:40] <soccer_hawk10> upgraded*
[18:40] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: ok, but then ./ is still wrong :)
[18:40] <Phusion> kaukse: I found all of that on google by typing in what you asked for, remember that google is a powerful tool :)
[18:40] <filemonkey> thanks wols :)
[18:40] <RoDoX> nickrud: but theres nothing there
[18:40] <Phusion> kaukse: you're quite welcome.
[18:40] <Lrac> wols: can I do that while ubuntu is running, or should I boot into a CD-version first? Also...I don't know how to do that :)
[18:40] <wols> soccer_hawk10: only when you want to hibernate possibly
[18:40] <nickrud> RoDoX, in general, when a *nix command completes correctly, it says nothing
[18:40] <DaveG|> can anyone direct me to some 64 bit debs of tcl/tk?
[18:40] <nickrud> RoDoX, what do you mean, nothing there?
[18:40] <Jack_Sparrow> wols: yea yea.. right as alwasy.. kinda like no swap yesterday
[18:40] <wols> Lrac: you usually can do it while runnin. no need to reboot either
[18:40] <DaveG|> can anyone direct me to some 64 bit debs of tcl/tk @ 8.5?
[18:41] <Phusion> DaveG|: tried apt-get?
[18:41] <Phusion> DaveG|: or synaptic?
[18:41] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: I am not always right. I make a lot of errors. some _very_ stupid
[18:41] <DaveG|> Phusion, 8.5?
[18:41] <ip00n> it says E: couldnt find package ntfs-config
[18:41] <soccer_hawk10> wls: how do i add swap space if i don't have unpartitioned space on my drive? can i have it taken away from ext3?
[18:41] <Lrac> wols: cool, I'll give it a shot.
[18:41] <OldSpice> anyone know a website that has some commands for new linux users that maybe google couldn't cough up?
[18:41] <Phusion> hehe
[18:41] <boris> when was the latest kernel released ? what version ? how do i check my version ?
[18:41] <Ali_ix> OldSpice: look tldp.com for bash beginner guides
[18:41] <kaukse> Phusion: yeah, sorry, usually I always start with google... I must be a bit tired tonight :)
[18:41] <nickrud> wols, that's the best sign of knowledge: expecting to be wrong
[18:42] <wols> boris: uname -a
[18:42] <Phusion> OldSpice: http://theory.chem.umn.edu/~mayaan/command.html <-----
[18:42] <wols> boris: as for kernels: kernel.org. ubuntu kernels are different tho
[18:42] <ip00n> please, how do i enable the 'universe' component?
[18:42] <RoDoX> nickrud: i mean theres no installer....i run the command cd/<directory just created> and theres no installer
[18:42] <Ali_ix> OldSpice: sorry it si tldp.org
[18:42] <OldSpice> Thank you guys!
[18:42] <boris> wols: how can i check when my kernel got updated ?
[18:42] <Phusion> ip00n: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.lst  and uncomment (#) the universe repo
[18:42] <wols> ip00n: you can enable it in synaptic somewhere in the configs
[18:43] <nickrud> RoDoX, then after you've cd'd into the directory, you should be able to execute the program, it's probably in green.  type   ./<nameofprogram>
[18:43] <wols> boris: dpkg.log in /var/log/ for example
[18:43] <Ali_ix> boris: check your running kernel with uname -a command
[18:43] <crush_groove> green listings are executables?
[18:43] <boris> Ali_ix: 2.6.22-14-rt
[18:43] <bigdog_> quick question, is alpha2 on track for a release today?
[18:43] <wols> boris: ls -l /boot/vmlin*
[18:43] <nickrud> crush_groove, if you use the default dircolors, yes
[18:43] <wols> boris: it gives you a date. which is the date it's made
[18:43] <RoDoX> nickrud: i put the name of the program followed by what?
[18:43] <Ali_ix> boris: it looks old :) <IP_ADDRESS> is out
[18:44] <wols> Ali_ix: not for ubuntu
[18:44] <RoDoX> nickrud: or just the name of the program?
[18:44] <nickrud> RoDoX, then enter. It should run.
[18:44] <PriceChild> !hardy | bigdog_
[18:44] <ubotu> bigdog_: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:44] <Ali_ix> wols: what ius latest ubuntu kernel?
[18:44] <Phusion> 2.66.22-14 I think Ali_ix
[18:44] <DaveG|> Phusion, ?? well?
[18:44] <RoDoX> nickrud: it didnt work
[18:44] <Ali_ix> Phusion: thanks
[18:44] <askand> how can I check what ati driver I am using?
[18:45] <bigdog_> PriceChild: thanks
[18:45] <nickrud> RoDoX, what's the program, and where'd you get it
[18:45] <RoDoX> it says "command not found"
[18:45] <boris> how do i update/check for  kernel ?
[18:45] <wols> Ali_ix: some <IP_ADDRESS> one in feisty
[18:45] <ip00n> Phusion: sources.lst is blank
[18:45] <nickrud> RoDoX, you did cd into the directory , right?
[18:45] <Ali_ix> boris: use update-manager in ubuntu, if you didnt compiled kernel manually before
[18:45] <wols> Ali_ix: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic
[18:46] <twobits2> I finally got ubuntu installed, but now when the loading screen finishes, I only get a blank screen. Does anyone know why this might happen? I installed it useing NetBootin
[18:46] <Ali_ix> wols: thankx, and no 2.6.23 until hardy?
[18:46] <twobits2> I can use the recovery mode fine, but :/
[18:46] <wols> Ali_ix: nope
[18:46] <RoDoX> nickrud: yeah, and this is the link for the file: http://www.instantbird.com/downloads/0.1/instantbird-0.1.tar.gz
[18:46] <Ali_ix> twobits2: sounds like graphic issue,
[18:46] <profanephobia> i need help setting up dual monitor on a ati card with a custom resolution
[18:46] <twobits2> ...
[18:46] <Ali_ix> twobits2: you may need to install, config proper driver for your vga