 Hello everyone..I am working on DE10 nano board. I am unable to access the gpio pins on lxde Ubuntu18.04. Is there any solution for this?
 That doesn't relate to Lubuntu development; nor do we support 18.04 so it doesn't belong in Lubuntu Support either. (re @Srinivasa: Hello everyone..I am working on DE10 nano board. I am unable to access the gpio pins on lxde Ubuntu18.04. Is there any solution for this?)
 Lubuntu is LXQt only; we don't support LXDE (GTK2/deprecated)
 Ok tq
[20:54] <Eickmeyer> Hey. Does Cala support installation of additional drivers like Ubiquity does? If not, then I need to undo a change. heh 😅
[22:02] <kc2bez> Eickmeyer: not exactly. I am not near my computer right now so I am not sure what you changed. In theory with an added module and some configuration we could.
[22:03] <Eickmeyer> kc2bez: Yeah, I'm asking because we can pre-load the nvidia drivers on the .iso and it can get accessed to install the drivers if offline, so long as Calamares has the option.
[22:04] <kc2bez> As is, with the current settings it can't.
[22:05] <kc2bez> There is a license module that we would need to enable and configure.
[22:06] <kc2bez> We would probably need a shell process to run Ubuntu-drivers on the chroot too.
[22:13] <Eickmeyer> kc2bez: Gotcha. That's why I was asking.


[20:10] <devicenull> is there any real support in cloud-init for ipv6 only?
[20:10] <devicenull> I guess i'd need to update the metadata source


[15:00]  * slangasek waves
[15:00] <jodh> o/
[15:01]  * mvo waves as well
[15:01] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[15:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu May  8 15:02:01 2014 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[15:01] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[15:01] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[15:02] <cjwatson> Oh I forgot about mumble this week, oops
[15:02] <slangasek> ah that's why it was quiet
[15:02] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek cjwatson xnox caribou infinity mvo)
[15:02] <slangasek> slangasek jodh infinity mvo barry stgraber cjwatson bdmurray caribou xnox doko
[15:02] <slangasek> not much news from me this week
[15:02] <slangasek>  * in contract phase on the Java role
[15:02] <slangasek>  * busy week for NEW processing for the phone (MMS, qt gles packages)
[15:02] <slangasek>   * discussions with sergiusens about use of gccgo vs. go-gc for go-based package
[15:02] <slangasek> (done)
[15:03] <slangasek> jodh:
[15:03] <jodh> * foundations-1305-upstart-work-items:
[15:03] <jodh>   - cgroup support:
[15:03] <jodh>     - Finished reworking test_job_process async test suite. However,
[15:03] <jodh>       some more recent changes seem to have now broken
[15:03] <jodh>       test_job so currently identifying the issue and fixing up the tests.
[15:03] <jodh>     - Currently working with xnox to clean up the branch and identify
[15:03] <jodh>       fix the remaining tests.
[15:03] <jodh> * upstart:
[15:03] <jodh>   - Prepared initial fix for bug 1315060. Now adding an append option:
[15:03] <jodh>     https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/upstart/bug-1315060
[15:03] <jodh>   - Merged a fix upstream for building upstart under utopic (thanks to cjwatson
[15:03] <jodh>     for review): lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/fix-deprecated-json-calls.
[15:03] <jodh> * misc:
[15:03] <jodh>   - upgraded to utopic.
[15:03] <jodh>   - Obtained full strace for bug 1314697.
[15:03] <jodh> ◎
[15:03] <jodh> slangasek: sorry - had to scrabble for my unicode end-of-message glyph :)
[15:04] <slangasek> heh
[15:04] <slangasek> infinity is at the cloud sprint this week
[15:04] <slangasek> mvo:
[15:04] <mvo> = Next week =
[15:04] <mvo> - further HardwareEnablement EOL work
[15:04] <mvo> - Click, address issues raised during the code review(s)
[15:04] <mvo> - work on outstanding trusty ubuntu-release-upgrader issues (i.e.
[15:04] <mvo>   regression in locale.setlocale())
[15:04] <mvo> = Last week =
[15:04] <mvo> click:
[15:04] <mvo>   lp:~mvo/click/documentation-tweak
[15:04] <mvo>   lp:~mvo/click/multiple-frameworks
[15:04] <mvo>   lp:~mvo/upstart-app-launch/hide-on-missing-framework
[15:04] <mvo> hwe-eol:
[15:04] <mvo> - Coordination
[15:04] <mvo> - lp:~mvo/update-manager/hwe-support-status
[15:04] <mvo> misc:
[15:04] <mvo> - open/upload translated package description utopic series in LP
[15:05] <mvo> - Another try to get "apt" bash-completions included #747094, I begin to
[15:05] <mvo>   think I should maintain this as part of the apt source package myself
[15:05] <mvo> - Prepare fix for multiarch upgrade issue to send upstream (we need to
[15:05] <mvo>   have the same pkgname as debian for this fix)
[15:05] <mvo> - ubuntu-release-upgrader for utopic
[15:05] <mvo> - (very few) merges - should I do more?
[15:05] <mvo> apt:
[15:05] <mvo> - big merge of all abi break branches
[15:05] <mvo> - debug/fix various smal regression/test-failures in the abi break branch
[15:05] <cjwatson> mm, I've been meaning to learn how to write bash completion
[15:05] <mvo> [DONE]
[15:05] <mvo> prepare fix for multiarch upgrade issue - for samba4
[15:05] <mvo> (sorry that apparently got lost)
[15:05] <barry> phone: python3 ports for ubuntu-filemanager-app, webbrowser-app, sudoku-app, autopilot temp-dev fix for sphinx, general autopilot py3 planning, discussions, development.  with help from xnox and thomir, we should be eliminating py2 from touch *in the next day or so*.
[15:05] <barry> ubu/deb: debian bug 745673, debian bug 732703.
[15:05] <barry> misc: upgraded laptop to utopic.  desktop coming soon.
[15:05] <barry> todo: patch pilot today
[15:05] <barry> done
[15:06]  * mvo checks 427
[15:06] <slangasek> mvo: more merges> there's a long tail of stale merges that no one is dealing with... I claimed the 4-year-old gxine merge the other day. :) http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/oldmerges/
[15:06] <barry> wheels ftw!
[15:06] <mvo> barry: :)
[15:07] <doko> mvo is the new ev
[15:07] <mvo> slangasek: aha! thanks, I will check that out and attack some
[15:07] <mvo> doko: *cough* I hope that is something positive
[15:08] <slangasek> barry: hurray! death to python2 and all it stands for!
[15:08] <slangasek> (or something?)
[15:08] <slangasek> stgraber is also at the cloud sprint
[15:08] <slangasek> so, cjwatson
[15:08] <xnox> doko: not quite, it's still under 200 lines.... unless mvo is only getting started =)
[15:08] <barry> \o/
[15:09] <xnox> barry: slangasek: well baring autopilot managing to pass through ci-train and 3 more clicks to land.
[15:09] <cjwatson> livefs in LP:
[15:09] <cjwatson>  - Continuing work on the browser code.  This is almost entirely done now although not yet pushed anywhere; I still need to finish writing test code.
[15:09] <cjwatson>  - Set up a local buildd slave so that I could do a straight-through test.  This was (eventually) successful, but in the process I discovered a small but important bug in the launchpad-buildd code, so we'll need to roll out a fix for that.
[15:09] <cjwatson>  - Worked through William's initial review of https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/livefs/+merge/217261.
[15:09] <cjwatson>  - To do: finish browser tests, reviews/QA/deployment, cdimage changes.
[15:09] <cjwatson> Reviewed and extended Dimitri's fix for bug 1275162 and uploaded to unstable for syncing to Ubuntu.  Uploaded trusty SRU candidate (also with fixes for bug 1314134).
[15:09] <cjwatson> Reviewed Michael's click branches.
[15:09] <cjwatson> Tested germinate SRUs.
[15:09] <cjwatson> gnuradio 3.7.3 transition.
[15:09] <slangasek> xnox: is bfiller the right person to help us make sure the clicks land?
[15:09] <cjwatson> Helped out with address-book-app -proposed blockage.
[15:09] <cjwatson> Signed up for DebConf.  Whee.
[15:09] <cjwatson> ..
[15:10] <bdmurray> check in with thedac regarding OOPS cf deletion process
[15:10] <bdmurray> daisy: don't write to OOPS CF if there is no StacktraceAddressSignature
[15:10] <bdmurray> daisy: update EoL releases to include Natty and Oneiric (someone submitted crashes for them)
[15:10] <bdmurray> daisy: don't accept crashes without an ExecutablePath
[15:10] <bdmurray> reported RT 70111 regarding read / write access to cassandra after testing
[15:10] <bdmurray> submitted RT to update daisy to r436
[15:10] <bdmurray> submitted rt to have daisy updated and subsequently retry retracing failures to retrace
[15:10] <bdmurray> ubuntu-emulator testing of apport and whoopsie
[15:10] <bdmurray> reported ubuntu-emulator-runtime bug 1316302 and MAC addresses
[15:10] <bdmurray> reported daisy bug 1316337 regarding adding useless data to the OOPS cf
[15:10] <bdmurray> reported daisy bug 1316763 re: bucketing of recoverable problems
[15:10] <bdmurray> reported apport bug 1316344 regarding webbrowser app crash report truncation
[15:10] <xnox> slangasek: and/or with poppey/serguisens. Potentially we can do direct to store upload to fix up the manifest key, if we end up blocked on that.
[15:10] <bdmurray> reported apport bug 1316841 regarding no duplicate signatures for apportcheckresume crashes
[15:10] <bdmurray> reported apport bug 1316845 regarding package version for apportcheckresume
[15:10] <bdmurray> investigation into kubuntu-driver-manager increase in crash rate (overrode it)
[15:11] <bdmurray> investigation into phased updater issue with qtiplot
[15:11] <bdmurray> overrode some (update-manager, software-properties) phased updates
[15:11] <bdmurray> bug bot modifications to check for more iso identities
[15:11] <bdmurray> uploaded Trusty fixes for bugs 1304143, 1306412
[15:11] <bdmurray> provisional MRE research for Tech Board
[15:11] <slangasek> xnox: please don't bypass the process unnecessarily :)
[15:11] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:12] <xnox> gnutls26->28:
[15:12] <xnox>  - merged 26, synced 28, thus gnutls-bin is now provided by gnutls28.
[15:12] <xnox>  - will be filing bugs in debian to get packages migrated over
[15:12] <xnox> Systemd:
[15:12] <xnox>  * Upload plymouth with initial systemd support. Fixed up obsolete
[15:12] <xnox>    module (rtc) left over in /etc/modules. bug #1317077
[15:12] <xnox> SRU bugs fixed in utopic:
[15:12] <xnox>  - bug #1273462, bug #1315755, bug #1123460, bug #1249732,
[15:12] <cjwatson> gnutls> yay
[15:12] <xnox>    bug #1315464, bug #1300464, bug #1275162 (when syncs from
[15:12] <xnox>    debian)bzr diff
[15:12] <xnox> upstart:
[15:12] <xnox>  - working with jodh to get async branch into shape for merging.
[15:12] <xnox> python2 off touch:
[15:12] <xnox>  - progressing with fix-ups to drop python2 off the touch images.
[15:12] <xnox> ..
[15:13] <xnox> cjwatson: seems pretty much everyone was eager to get that in debian as well. thus the upload restricting to add gpl v2+ compat turned around quickly.
[15:13] <cjwatson> People aren't so keen on old crypto code right now
[15:14] <mvo> heh
[15:14] <doko> - two days off
[15:14] <doko> - sent GCC 4.9 ftbfs issues
[15:14] <doko> - updating gcc-4.8 before the 4.8.3 release candidate
[15:14] <doko> - fix more python3.4 autopkg tests
[15:14] <doko> - got involved into the ensurepip wheel packaging
[15:14] <doko> - start looking at the proposal for the openjdk-8 packaging.
[15:14] <doko> (done)
[15:15] <slangasek> and no caribou today, it seems?
[15:15] <mvo> french holiday I think
[15:15] <slangasek> ah yes
[15:15] <mvo> (or on strike)
[15:15] <slangasek> aren't those the same thing? :)
[15:15] <mvo> lol
[15:16] <slangasek> [TOPIC] DebConf planning
[15:17] <slangasek> if I've already approved you to attend DebConf, please register for the conference (as a professional attendee): http://debconf14.debconf.org/registration.xhtml
[15:18] <slangasek> don't register yourself for food/accommodation, which we should handle centrally
[15:18] <slangasek> and if you're not sure if you're approved to attend, come talk to me :)
[15:19] <slangasek> I'll get an event code into the system ASAP so you can start submitting your travel requests too
[15:19] <doko> does this mean we won't have lunch together with the other participants?
[15:19] <cjwatson> err
[15:20] <slangasek> however, we still need to settle which dates everyone will be in attendance
[15:20] <cjwatson> I already registered myself for food/accommodation
[15:20] <cjwatson> I think I missed that memo
[15:20] <slangasek> cjwatson: yes, the memo is late, you get an exception ;P
[15:20] <cjwatson> should I try to unwind my registration?
[15:20] <slangasek> doko: no, it means that you should not register yourself for lunch because that makes it more difficult for the company to pay
[15:20] <slangasek> cjwatson: don't worry about it until I have a chance to talk to Michelle
[15:20] <cjwatson> ok
[15:21] <barry> slangasek: and that always goes so smoothly with our usa travel agent :)
[15:22] <slangasek> so we'll hopefully have the DebConf schedule fleshed out more in the next week or so, at which point we'll talk about which dates it makes most sense for people to attend ... assuming not everyone is going to attend for all 10 days
[15:22] <xnox> also ESTA approvals
[15:22] <slangasek> barry: in this case, PSU asks for payment at time of registration for the room, so that makes it easier for msm to just pay it :)
[15:23] <barry> slangasek: \o/
[15:23] <slangasek> any other questions?
[15:24] <barry> ah, you can't fill out the travel auth until there's an event code
[15:24] <slangasek> right
[15:25] <cjwatson> FWIW PSU only asked me for time-of-registration payment for food
[15:25] <cjwatson> that is, the bill consisted entirely of 4x 10x breakfast+lunch
[15:25] <slangasek> oh, interesting
[15:25] <cjwatson> whether that's an error on their part I don't know
[15:25] <slangasek> well, something else for me to bother them about :)
[15:26] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[15:26] <slangasek> anything else to discuss?
[15:26] <slangasek> everybody getting ready for Malta?
[15:27]  * mvo nods
[15:27] <slangasek> does anyone here happen to know how to accept ubuntu-core-dev's invitation to https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team ?
[15:28] <slangasek> the team has no admins; I asked bdmurray whether the DMB got an email about it and he said no
[15:29] <xnox> slangasek: i think you need an admin, in the owners team?
[15:29] <xnox> slangasek: https://launchpad.net/~pspmteam/+members ?
[15:29] <popey> slangasek: i just tried to manually add but it failed, because its already been invited
[15:29] <slangasek> xnox: the invite has been sent by the admin of phablet-team, but someone has to accept it on behalf of ubuntu-core-dev
[15:30] <slangasek> and I don't know who that "someone" can be
[15:30] <xnox> slangasek: oh.
[15:30] <slangasek> maybe an option shows up in the UI for the members of the DMB?  barry, bdmurray?
[15:30] <bdmurray> what is the structure of the url invite?
[15:30]  * barry is no longer dmb
[15:30] <slangasek> oh
[15:30]  * xnox is
[15:30] <slangasek> right
[15:31] <xnox> oh, since i'm a member of phablet-team already, i can't add one of my teams to it?!
[15:31] <slangasek> xnox, popey, bdmurray: shall we adjourn and try to figure this out on #ubuntu-devel then?
[15:31] <slangasek> (anything else from anyone?)
[15:32] <doko> yep
[15:32] <bdmurray> https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+member/ubuntu-core-dev maybe that
[15:32] <xnox> no allowed here
[15:32] <doko> trying to prepare for GCC 4.9, planning to make it the default in Malta
[15:33] <popey> "Ubuntu Core Development Team (ubuntu-core-dev) has been invited to join this team, but hasn't responded to the invitation yet."
[15:33] <slangasek> I think you should make it the default everywhere, not just in Malta
[15:33] <popey> (when I click that link)
[15:33] <bdmurray> ah, I got it
[15:33] <bdmurray> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/+invitation/phablet-team
[15:33] <doko> there are a number of issues now filed for Debian; I don't want to repeat the bug filing here in Ubuntu
[15:33] <doko><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:34] <slangasek> doko: 94 is still a lot. is anyone driving down the bug list in Debian?  Will gcc-4.9 be made the default in Debian soon?
[15:34] <doko> can we do a 5 a week bug squash until Malta?
[15:35] <doko> slangasek, see the email to -release, and the refusal on the qt related ones to work on anything else before 4.9 is the default
[15:35] <slangasek> doko: link to the -release mail?
[15:36] <slangasek> these are certainly NMU candidates in Debian; perhaps you'd like to announce a "bugsquashing party" in Debian and drive them down there, before making the switch of default in either Debian or Ubuntu
[15:37] <slangasek> we certainly want to make sure the Qt packages are fixed in Ubuntu before we make the switch, so that we're not hampering the touch work
[15:37] <doko> yes, announcement will follow for ubuntu
[15:37] <xnox> bdmurray: accepted.
[15:38] <xnox> slangasek: ^
[15:38] <slangasek> xnox: yay!
[15:38] <bdmurray> well, now I could have clicked the button I was trying to say look I found it
[15:39] <xnox> slangasek: i hope this does not translate into spamming core-devs.... =)
[15:39] <slangasek> doko: anyway, I think it's best to coordinate this with Debian, and where possible to do the fixes there directly via bugsquash NMU
[15:39] <slangasek> xnox: I'm pretty sure ubuntu-core-dev mail is already bitbucketed :)
[15:39] <cjwatson> ubuntu-core-dev has an e-mail address yet
[15:39] <cjwatson> *set
[15:40] <xnox> slangasek: archived neatly in /dev/null ?! =)))))
[15:40] <slangasek><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:40] <cjwatson> So it should at worst only spam<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:40] <xnox> anyway... gcc-4.9 transition bug fixing needed. ok.
[15:41] <slangasek> alright, sounds like that's everything then
[15:41] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[15:41] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu May  8 15:41:29 2014 UTC.
[15:41] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-05-08-15.02.moin.txt
[15:41] <slangasek> thanks, all!
[15:41] <barry> thanks!
[15:41] <mvo> thanks
[15:42] <jodh> thanks!


[08:10] <deviance> Well, i am sure some one can
[08:10] <deviance> Just not me :
[08:10] <uzzipher> can somebody else help me with accelerating graphics?
[08:11] <MrP> What is the site that offers free SSL certificates that is pretty well trusted?
[08:12] <tim_away> gtg, but: go to the kubuntu site, look at the wiki, search for your card manufacuter (nvidia or ati), that will get you a page on how to install the driver
[08:12] <tim_away> if in doubt ask here, for some reason its quiet these last 10 minutes
[08:12] <deviance> Yeah
[08:12] <deviance> Cya tim
[08:13] <tim_away> oh and deviance says "just use the default one" but the propriatary ones usualy just work
[08:14] <deviance> :P
[08:16] <deviance> Anyone kknow the best too to monitor temp?
[08:16] <maelcum_> hi! i'm in an environment with many (~15) wireless networks and my ipw2200 driver occasionally says "Firmware error detected.  Restarting.". the connection doesn't work for about 20 seconds and then (fortunately) resumes.
[08:17] <maelcum_> this seems to be a known problem with the driver. do you have any workarounds? f.x
[08:17] <maelcum_> f.ex. disablin hw crypto helps
[08:17] <deviance> maelcum_: I think it could be suffereing from too many wifi options
[08:17] <deviance> Do you use your wifi?
[08:18] <deviance> Is it possible to take it out of scanning mode whilst connected to a wifi hotspot?
[08:18] <maelcum_> deviance: yes, otherwise i wouldn't care :)
[08:18] <deviance> Or possible, to ask it not to look for wifi connections?
[08:18] <maelcum_> deviance: uh, i think associated != scanning (?)
[08:18] <deviance> I am afraid I don't know
[08:19] <deviance> Do you connect with knetworkmanager?
[08:19] <maelcum_> deviance: for your questions, ksensors is ok if you want a little tray applet
[08:19] <maelcum_> *question
[08:19] <ch40s> does anyone prefer a mail program other than kmail?
[08:19] <deviance> I prefer to use the settings directly than the network manager
[08:20] <maelcum_> deviance: me too, iwconfig
[08:20] <deviance> I just disable KNetworkManager, and connect with manula settings, that way it connects to your wifi connection and nothing else
[08:20] <deviance> iwcofig? I go throguh system settings
[08:21] <maelcum_> i am pretty sure that this is a real driver and/or firmware problem
[08:21] <deviance> Probably
[08:21] <deviance>  :P
[08:21] <oxyman> ch40s: how about thunderbird
[08:21] <deviance> Gah i'm usless
[08:21] <maelcum_> deviance: i am comfortable with the command line and it's fast
[08:21] <deviance> Yeah true
[08:21] <deviance> Yakuake ftw!
[08:21] <deviance> !yakuake
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yakuake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <deviance> damn
[08:23] <maelcum_> ch40s: i actually use thunderbird for private mail (and kmail for list mail) - and i occasionally fix kmail bugs and i *know* what it looks like inside. not terrible, but also not terribly reliable *g*. oh, reportedly still better than evolution :)
[08:24] <llutz> someone should port sylpheed-claws to qt :)
[08:24] <deviance> maelcum_: If i was to lock session now, would my download from my PC downstairs carry on?
[08:24] <deviance> I'm coppyiong 6.4 gig over wifi using smb lol
[08:25] <deviance> But I want to leave my desk for a bit and want to lock it
[08:25] <maelcum_> deviance: i have now idea how your session is related to your pc downstairs, but everything stays running if you lock your session.
[08:25] <deviance> Okay :D
[08:25] <deviance> I was just saying incase it matersd
[08:25] <deviance> matered
[08:27] <Jucato> at 2:30 am...
[08:28] <deviance> Jucato: How can you resisit?
[08:28] <deviance> At that time I would be eating the raw instant powder
[08:28] <Jucato> by trying to keep my spelling straight? :)
[08:28] <deviance> Hell, I can't do that when i am wide awake
[08:29] <deviance> As you noticed :P
[08:29] <deviance> Jucato: How can i monitor my CPU and case temps?
[08:29] <Jucato> hm... I forgot the name of the system monitor thingies...
[08:30] <mefisto__> windows killed one of my ntfs disks (not the win system disk). chkdsk says it has "unrecoverable errors". can I restore it with linux tools, or do I have to reformat?
[08:31] <deviance> mefisto__: Find out :P
[08:31] <deviance> Stick a live disk in, and see what happens
[08:31] <stdin> mefisto__: if windows can't fix a problem with a format only they really know about, it's not likely linux can
[08:31] <oxyman> !conky
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about conky - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <Jucato> !info gkrellm
[08:32] <ubotu> gkrellm: The GNU Krell Monitors. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.9-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 733 kB, installed size 2060 kB
[08:32] <Jucato> deviance: that might help...
[08:32] <deviance> :D
[08:32] <oxyman> deviance: well, there's conky though. its a lightweight system monitor
[08:32] <deviance> Cool
[08:32] <deviance> Thanks oxyman
[08:32] <deviance> I need to make some notes
[08:32] <ce> hello, in what package does the startkde script for kde4 exists? (using gutsy)
[08:32] <ubuntu> Hey all, wondering if anyone can help me.  Whenever I try to re-start or turn on my computer it siezes up at the loading screen with a message similar to "disk read error"
[08:33] <ubuntu> yet sometimes it will boot right up without any issues
[08:33] <oxyman> deviance: there's also kima which is a cpu/gpu/hdd temperature monitor embedded in kicker
[08:33] <mefisto__> the thing is, although windows couldn't see the disk, kubuntu could (using ntfs-3g driver). after trying to repair it with chkdsk, it is now not mounting in kubuntu.
[08:34] <Jucato> ce: make sure kdebase-workspace and kde4base are both installed
[08:35] <ce> aha, kdebase-workspace
[08:38] <deviance> lol
[08:38] <ubuntu> hey guys, is it possible to format my HD from the Kubuntu disk?  I'm running off of that becasue my HD is having some issues and won't let me boot up.
[08:38] <mefisto__> ok, can I reformat ntfs with gparted, or should I do it with windows?
[08:38] <deviance> ubuntu Yeah
[08:39] <deviance> Its what i always do
[08:40] <stdin> mefisto__: I think you'll have to install ntfsprogs then format it with mkntfs
[08:42] <mefisto__> stdin: ntfsprogs is installed, but is it safe/reliable, or is it better to let windows do the ntfs formatting? (linux saved me from losing some important data before I chkdsk'd it, so my windows trust level is even lower than it was before)
[08:42] <Jucato> blog done... now sleep
[08:42] <Jucato> stdin: I leave the room in your (dis)able(d) hands
[08:42] <deviance> Jucato: you have your priorites right
[08:43] <Jucato> goodnight people! behave :)
[08:43] <deviance> Night :p
[08:45] <backpro> i have kubuntu and now i dont have sound in my system i format the pc and install kubuntu another time the sound work good but no non any reason the sound dont work ??????????
[08:45] <deviance> backpro erm, not really.
[08:45] <backpro> what mean erm ??
[08:46] <deviance> Did you have it set up correctly? Were you using the same distro first and second times?
[08:46] <backpro> yes ,no
[08:47] <deviance> That is probably why
[08:47] <deviance> The distros were set up differently
[08:47] <backpro> deviance i dont understand you
[08:48] <backpro> distros ???what mean
[08:48] <deviance> Distrobutions
[08:48] <deviance> Where you using the same install CD the first and second times?
[08:48] <backpro> no
[08:49] <deviance> That is probably why
[08:49] <deviance> One CD works with your speakers, one doesn't
[08:49] <backpro> no no
[08:50] <backpro> i have problem with kde desktop
[08:50] <backpro> not only with ubuntu i was install xandros and i was have the same problem
[08:50] <deviance> Oh, I am not sure
[08:52] <mefisto__> backpro: have you installed kubuntu? which version?
[08:54] <backpro> edgy
[08:54] <backpro> kde 3.5.5
[08:55] <backpro> but when i restart the pc its work for a 5 mintes and stop
[08:56] <mefisto__> backpro: does sound work with the edgy livecd?
[08:58] <backpro> yes
[08:58] <backpro> i have to go nowthank you for help me
[08:58] <backpro> good bye mefisto_
[08:58] <backpro> my girl friend on the phone bye bye
[09:01] <eagles0513875> anyone know of any other mp3 pkgs cuz i have lame installed and some audio in mp3 for mat and im not sure what codec they used to compress can anyone help me
[09:01] <NickPresta> !mp3 | eagles0513875
[09:01] <ubotu> eagles0513875: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:01] <oxyman> does anyone know a lightweight audio player other than xmms for kde?
[09:01] <eagles0513875> ty
[09:01] <eagles0513875> oxyman: have u tried audacious
[09:02] <oxyman> eagles0513875: I will try now, thanks
[09:02] <eagles0513875> NickPresta: will that stuff work in gutsy
[09:02] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[09:02] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:03] <majorjrk> Whats the neat little app in kubuntu that shows cpu and battery for laptops in tray ?
[09:04] <eagles0513875> majorjrk: u mean powermanager
[09:04] <majorjrk> pherhaps
[09:05] <eagles0513875> it shows the battery and cpu frequency
[09:05] <stdin> or guidance-power-manager
[09:05] <majorjrk> wmpower ?
[09:06] <majorjrk> r
[09:14] <kubuntu_newbie> hi
[09:15] <kubuntu_newbie> i got that problem with emerald :( how to reload that program?
[09:16] <stdin> kubuntu_newbie: in Alt-F2, "killall emerald && emerald --replace" should do it
[09:20] <rami> I got the virus magistr .a@mm something in wine, will it adffect my computer????
[09:20] <inaety> rami: what program is it?
[09:21] <elzbal> rami: It has a chance to affect any .exe files in any directory which is visible to wine.
[09:21] <elzbal> And since wine often sets up a Z: at your system root, it may affect all .exe files on your system.
[09:21] <rami> ok, i'm gonna remove wine.
[09:22] <rami> just because i hate it, too
[09:22] <stdin> rami: just remove ~/.wine
[09:23] <seanpcrowe> hey dudes...
[09:23] <seanpcrowe> whats better, xchat or koncerer??
[09:23] <seanpcrowe> xchat seems a bit buggy to me
[09:24] <inaety> seanpcrowe: use konversation
[09:24] <stdin> koncerer? what's that?
[09:24] <cloakable> seanpcrowe: wht it koncerer:
[09:24] <cloakable> *what
[09:24] <seanpcrowe> konqueror is what i meat (i cant spell for shit lol)
[09:24] <cloakable> Sounds like a misspelling of konqueror, but that isn't a irc client :P
[09:25] <seanpcrowe> nono.... i mean for browsing the web
[09:25] <mefisto__> apples are better than oranges
[09:25] <stdin> xchat isn't a web browser
[09:25] <Azzco> I've got the old adept in feisty how do I change to the "new" one?
[09:25] <cloakable> seanpcrowe: Konqueror. Xchat cannot browse the web, it's an irc client O.o
[09:25] <seanpcrowe> lololol
[09:25] <seanpcrowe> sorry let me start over again
[09:26] <stdin> Azzco: "old adept" ?
[09:26] <Pupeno_M> Hello.
[09:26] <seanpcrowe> which is better for browsin the web... konqueror or Firefox...
[09:26] <seanpcrowe> lol, thats what i ment
[09:26] <stdin> seanpcrowe: there is not "better"
[09:26] <stdin> !better
[09:26] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[09:26] <seanpcrowe> (its forefox that seems a little buggy)
[09:26] <Azzco> stdin: The one that when you manage repositories you get a list and not the window with options and tabs.
[09:27] <stdin> Azzco: use adept to preform an upgrade and you'll have it
[09:27] <seanpcrowe> kk stdin, i will give konqueror a go and see what i thinks...
[09:27] <Pupeno_M> Having connected to my machine via vnc/nomachine, is there a way to bring a window from one display to another?
[09:27] <Azzco> seanpcrowe: it's mostly a matter of taste, firefox is a bit better due to standards on the web but konqueror is my browser of choice ;)
[09:27] <soc_> hi will the koffice alpha get into gutsy too?
[09:28] <mefisto__> seanpcrowe: firefox has better browsing features imho, but konqueror is much faster, and does much more than browsing, is better integrated in kde
[09:28] <seanpcrowe> ok dudes... thanks for your inputs =)
[09:28] <kalorin`> konqueror messes up a lot of pages though :(
[09:28] <Azzco> stdin: just a normal upgrade? I just did that, I've also replaced kubuntu-desktop with kde.core btw
[09:28] <venik> How do I play .mov movies in Konquorer?  It complains that it cannot find the right plugin for it
[09:28] <mefisto__> Azzco: I think konqueror is more standards-compliant than firefox
[09:29] <stdin> Azzco: no, you must have kubuntu-desktop installed if you want a proper upgrade
[09:29] <Azzco> Oh sorry I meant that websites are sometimes optimised for firefox
[09:29] <winbond> mefisto__, firefox is faster at pretty much all the web related stuff
[09:29] <stdin> firefox is slower than konqueror...
[09:29] <Azzco> stdin: oh
[09:30] <winbond> stdin, at what?
[09:30] <mefisto__> winbond: yeah but it takes much longer to start up. but it does render pages a bit quicker than konqueror
[09:30] <venik> I can play .mov movies in FireFox, but not in Konquorer
[09:30] <stdin> winbond: web browsing, what else
[09:30] <Azzco> I really don't like firefox. I prefer being able to do most tasks from that program
[09:31] <facugaich> Hi, I accidentally set the update notifier to not auto-start, how do I fix this?
[09:31] <winbond> stdin, no
[09:31] <stdin> facugaich: press alt-f2 and put in adept_notifier
[09:32] <ubuntu_> All right, perhaps someone can help me.  When I try to boot up I get this error message.
[09:32] <ubuntu_> Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 0
[09:32] <stdin> winbond: yes, it's statically linked with some modified gtk libs and has a much higher memory footprint
[09:32] <ubuntu_> ldm_validate_partition_table (): Disk read failed
[09:33] <facugaich> stdin: thank you
[09:33] <inaety> how can i use spanish characters within kubuntu
[09:33] <stdin> winbond: not to mention it's memory leak "problem"
[09:33] <inaety> from a US keyboard
[09:34] <stdin> inaety: set your local and keymap to spanish in system settings > Regional & Language
[09:34] <inaety> stdin: but i only want to use them on occasion.  i dont want to change it from my primary language - english
[09:36] <venik> How do I play .mov movies in Konquorer?  It complains that it cannot find the right plugin for it
[09:37] <ubuntu_> Hey, whenever I try to start my computer I get this error message....Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 0        ldm_validate_partition_table (): Disk read failed
[09:37] <kubuntu_newbie> uhm i still got this problem :( "(emerald:5845): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_drawable_unref: assertion `GDK_IS_DRAWABLE (drawable)' failed"
[09:37] <stdin> inaety: what characters? like
[09:37] <stdin> ubuntu_: that generally means the disk is bad
[09:37] <mefisto__> venik: are you trying to play a file, or is it embedded in a web page?
[09:38] <kubuntu_newbie> what o.O the disk uhm
[09:38] <kubuntu_newbie> eh
[09:38] <kubuntu_newbie> xD
[09:39] <ubuntu_> stdin, I figured that, but I can't make sense of it.  Sometimes it will start right up with no problems
[09:39] <Lynoure> !gutsy
[09:39] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:41] <mefisto__> ubuntu_: that's the way it often goes - disks will start flaking out, not just suddenly and completely die
[09:41] <ubuntu_> mefisto, so it would probably be a good idea to try and run off of one of my external HDs for now?
[09:42] <mefisto__> ubuntu_: see if you can find a disk diagnostic tool from the drive's manufacturer
[09:42] <stdin> it'll probably be a good idea to makes backups now, then get a new disk
[09:44] <ubuntu_> stdin, thanks for your help.  I already backed up a long time ago.  I just got back from a trip a few weeks ago so I didn't have too much stuff on my HD that I cared about.
[09:44] <ubuntu_> All right, I'm off to try and fix my computer.  Ugh, I hate working on the insides of computers.  I prefer code.
[09:44] <cloakable> heh
[09:46] <kubuntu_newbie> when i start emerald, in the console it means "(emerald:5845): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_drawable_unref: assertion `GDK_IS_DRAWABLE (drawable)' failed"
[09:47] <kubuntu_newbie> i reconfigured xserver
[09:47] <winbond> stdin, yeah it might be slower starting up or using more ram, but it renders html way faster than konqueror
[09:52] <kubuntu_newbie> help :(
[09:53] <winbond> stdin, plus firefox has great plugins,
[09:53] <stdin> winbond: which is another reason it slows down
[09:53] <winbond> stdin, only on startup
[09:54] <kubuntu_newbie> can anybody help me?
[09:55] <paulatreides> depuis ce soir avec kubuntu 7.10 64 bits , disk&filesystem remarche :-)
[09:55] <paulatreides> hello, sorry if i speak french
[09:55] <kubuntu_newbie> when i start emerald, in the console it means "(emerald:5845): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_drawable_unref: assertion `GDK_IS_DRAWABLE (drawable)' failed"
[09:55] <paulatreides> kubuntu_newbie:  hello
[09:55] <kubuntu_newbie> hi
[09:55] <BluesKaj> !fr | paulatreides
[09:55] <ubotu> paulatreides: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:56] <paulatreides> yes i know
[09:56] <BluesKaj> ici , en anglais :)
[09:57] <kubuntu_newbie> :( emerald doesnt work
[09:57] <kubuntu_newbie> anybody here?
[09:57] <BluesKaj> !beryl
[09:57] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:57] <winbond> stdin, it can easily eat up a 160mb but for systems with 1gb ram or more this is nothing
[09:58] <tobias> Anyone can tell me whats the Command in konversation to open the RemoteScriptEditWindow? (It is Alt+R in windows - mIRC)
[09:59] <stdin> winbond: more than that "7188 stdin     15   0  236m 111m  38m S  0.7 11.1  20:54.68 firefox-bin"
[10:01] <oxyman> because of that i started using konqueror instead of firefox :-)
[10:03] <winbond> stdin, 236mb? which version of the firefox
[10:03] <stdin> <IP_ADDRESS>+2-0ubuntu3
[10:04] <winbond> stdin, what do u have open?
[10:04] <stdin> winbond:  few tabs, no flash or java stuff
[10:05] <BluesKaj> I switched back from konq to FF , there was something that was slowing it down terribly and I couldn't track it down, and it failed to DL files after a bit ...dunno what happened.
[10:06] <BluesKaj> too many arcane settings in the browser side of konq ...wish it was easier to set up
[10:07] <arkygeek> damn this imac is sweet!  beryl working perfect, sound, graphics, mic, wifi.... just one tiny glitch with web cam to work out, and its 100%  (even the remote works!)
[10:08] <arkygeek> (imac 24")
[10:08] <gib> I like Konq for browsing, but have been using it less and less just because I've been coming across more and more sites that it doesn't render properly.
[10:08] <winbond> stdin, well, i have 17 tabs open, 14 youtube videos playing at the same time, and 7 plugins installed, it maxed out at 430mb, thats not bad i think
[10:08] <winbond> stdin, <IP_ADDRESS>pre
[10:08] <eddjc3> hey all - am having a slight problem with web serving on kubuntu - I have a PDF file on the server that I want to be available as a download but when I click on it externally it says it can't find the file - also I was wondering - how do you configure kubuntu to allow ftp connections?
[10:08] <Black_Monkey> I'd like to use konqueror, but I just keep finding things I miss from firefox :/
[10:09] <arkygeek> firefox is nice.  too bad it is such a huge memory pig
[10:09] <gib> Do you even have  a ftp daemon configured and running?
[10:10] <mefisto__> Black_Monkey: like extensions?
[10:10] <Black_Monkey> yeah
[10:10] <eddjc3> gib: probably not - how does one do such a thing?
[10:10] <Black_Monkey> it's a shame, because I'd like to use a browser that's a native kde app, and integrates with kde...
[10:10] <BluesKaj> !FTP
[10:10] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[10:10] <mefisto__> would anyone use firefox if it wasn't for extensions?
[10:11] <gib> I've never run an ftp server on Kubuntu, but if you open adapt and search on ftp I'm sure you'll find several options.
[10:11] <stdin> !ftpd
[10:11] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[10:12] <Black_Monkey> when I open my ftp site in konqueror, it puts a locked file in each directory saying "your ftp client seems to be broken as it is sending ls arguments on a list command", or something like that
[10:12] <eddjc3> ok.. can anyone reccomend a good one off ubotu's list?
[10:12] <eddjc3> also, will that solve my pdf problem?
[10:12] <Black_Monkey> eddjc3: well other than what I just said, konqueror's fine for me... I prefer just having the file viewer style...
[10:13] <gib> Well, what seem to want is anonymous ftp, so be sure to set it up for anonymous access or it will need people to enter passwords.
[10:13] <emilsedgh> Black_Monkey: in the first days of using konqueror, i missed Firefox too, but now I dont like Fx, konqueror really fits
[10:13] <eddjc3> Black_Monkey: am not looking for a client, I'm looking for a server..
[10:13] <Black_Monkey> eddjc3: oh sorry, misread it
[10:13] <BluesKaj> I've heard ppl talk about vsftpd
[10:13] <eddjc3> np
[10:13] <Tucker87> Hey all, I just installed Kubuntu on this machine and it reconized my XP Installation but when I choose it from GRUB I never get passed "Starting up..." Any Tips?
[10:14] <BluesKaj> !vsftpd
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vsftpd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <mefisto__> it's possible to use both konqueror AND firefox of course.  In component main, is extra.  Thanks you've been a great help!
[10:15] <Black_Monkey> does anyone know if there's any kind of oxygen theme for firefox planned or being made?
[10:15] <stdin> buz: what front page?
[10:15] <Black_Monkey> buz: because it's not in feisty backports yet, still compiling it and stuff
[10:15] <buz> ah so thats why
[10:16] <buz> apparently it didnt yet hit all mirrors for gutsy eithe
[10:16] <Black_Monkey> stdin: it's not on kubuntu.org front page
[10:16] <BluesKaj> oxygen theme ?
[10:16] <stdin> buz: yeah, for the reason Black_Monkey said
[10:16] <Black_Monkey> BluesKaj: yeah, using the oxygen widget style and icons...
[10:16] <ScorpKing> i missed the vsftpd thing. who needs help?
[10:17] <BluesKaj> oh , window dressing
[10:17] <mefisto__> Tucker87: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and try reinstalling grub. Read it carefully though, it's not written very clearly
[10:18] <Tucker87> Thanks :-) I have it working on other machines... Just not this one. And it will boot linux :-S
[10:18] <mefisto__> Tucker87: have you tried editing menu.lst ?
[10:18] <PolitikerNEU> When does beta2 of kde4 come out for feisty?
[10:18] <winbond> !firewall
[10:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[10:18] <bluch> !apm
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <Tucker87> Yeah, to no avail...
[10:19] <Black_Monkey> ah, found the oxygen firefox theme in the svn...
[10:19] <PolitikerNEU> lol ... guarddog has as description "dictionary"
[10:19] <Black_Monkey> PolitikerNEU: when it's compiled, apparently between a few hours and a couple of days
[10:19] <BluesKaj> !info KDE4
[10:19] <ubotu> Package kde4 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:20] <Tucker87> I can mount my windows partition in Linux but I can't boot into it.
[10:20] <PolitikerNEU> ok ...
[10:20] <mefisto__> Tucker87: has windows crashed/not shutdown cleanly recently?
[10:21] <Tucker87> It ran fine until the Kubuntu install. I havn't been able to boot into it since.
[10:21] <Tucker87> Afraid it got corrupted during the partitioning...
[10:22] <Tucker87> But I can read and write to it in linux though... arg frustrating...
[10:22] <mefisto__> Tucker87: I have a similar problem, but it's with a 2nd (non-system) windows partition.
[10:23] <BluesKaj> Tucker87, what's the boot menu look like or does it just open kubuntu ?
[10:24] <sorush21> the kubuntu distro upgrade tool dosen't work fully.. any ideas ?
[10:24] <mefisto__> Tucker87: I would back up anything you need with kubuntu now
[10:24] <Tucker87> The boot menu has the standard GRUB list. I even added another option to boot into windows using a rootnoverify. If I go down and pick Windows then it just says "Starting up"
[10:24] <sorush21> I just download it and it prompts me to click finish to start the upgrade but nothing happens then
[10:24] <Tucker87> Yeah, I am afraid I am going to have to reinstall
[10:25] <ScorpKing> what is the build-something package again that i'll need to compile stuff?
[10:25] <winbond> sorush21, what do u mean fully?
[10:26] <winbond> ScorpKing,  build-essential
[10:26] <BluesKaj> Tucker87, open kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst and post it in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:26] <ScorpKing> winbond: thanks. got it. :)
[10:26] <sorush21> the upgrade tool doesnt' work propely..
[10:27] <BluesKaj> Tucker87, alt+F2 and type that kdesu command
[10:27] <red71> hello
[10:27] <BluesKaj> or copy and paste into the box
[10:27] <sorush21> I can't describe it any more
[10:27] <mefisto__> you don't need kdesu to open it, do you?
[10:27] <winbond> sorush21, how?
[10:27] <mefisto__> only to edit it
[10:27] <winbond> sorush21, what wont it upgrade?
[10:28] <BluesKaj> we ned to edit
[10:28] <BluesKaj> need
[10:28] <BluesKaj> why open it twice
[10:28] <sorush21> the man tool that is automated to download the new version of the distor dosent;' load up after an dupdate .
[10:28] <sorush21> main
[10:28] <Tucker87> BluesKaj, You can just say paste your menu.lst. I have been working with linux for awhile...
[10:29] <winbond> sorush21, are you upgrading from cd or from the net?
[10:30] <BluesKaj> ok Tucker87 good :) forgive my asumption, but one never knows :)
[10:30] <winbond> sorush21, just run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:30] <sorush21> winbond: net
[10:31] <Tucker87> Test...
[10:31] <winbond> sorush21, after sudo apt-get update
[10:31] <Tucker87> Hmm, I can't surf the net but I can type here... odd
[10:31] <sorush21> winbond: I have not done things manually.. as I say the automated tool that informs you that there is a new  version of kubuntu and tries to upgrade and add sources automatically is not working
[10:31] <ScorpKing> Tucker87: tried firefox?
[10:32] <winbond> sorush21, oh , you have to select which packages to update
[10:32] <mefisto__> Tucker87: dns problem?
[10:32] <sorush21> winbond: your just not understanding what I'm saying
[10:32] <waylandbill> sorush21: adept updater?
[10:32] <Tucker87> IDK, it corrected itself
[10:33] <sorush21> waylandbill: yes
[10:33] <winbond> sorush21, i know, u're talking about the adept
[10:34] <waylandbill> sorush21: winbond is telling you the command to do the same but using the backend to adept.
[10:34] <sorush21> winbond: the update tool on the taskbar that is what I'm talking about
[10:34] <mefisto__> sorush21: you said yourself it doesn't work. do it in terminal
[10:35] <sorush21> waylandbill: I don't want to do it manually and, even if I do I do not get the gui that came with the automated distupgrade tool
[10:35] <waylandbill> sorush21: in a konsole doing: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  is the same as using the system tray updater.
[10:35] <waylandbill> however, the command line tools give error output that is useful if something goes wrong.
[10:36] <Tucker87> Sorry 'bout that I don't know what was going on. here is my menu.lst
[10:36] <Tucker87> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36619/
[10:36] <sorush21> waylandbill: well okay that is all very well ... what about my problem where by the automated upgrade tool will not work ?
[10:36] <waylandbill> sorush21: if it doesn't work, then the command line tools may not but may produce an error that may prove helpful.
[10:37] <sorush21> waylandbill: I just did it and it dosen't produce and error..l
[10:38] <waylandbill> sorush21: if the command line update just worked, then try the adept updater in a day or two when it has updates and it may be successful as well.
[10:38] <tobias> Anyone can tell me whats the Command in konversation to open the RemoteScriptEditWindow? (It is Alt+R in windows - mIRC)
[10:38] <sorush21> waylandbill: do you know about the tool that automatically upgrades kubuntu version
[10:39] <waylandbill> sorush21: the dist-upgrade tool or the package updater? which are you referring to?
[10:39] <sorush21> waylandbill: dist-upgrdae tool
[10:40] <waylandbill> the dist-upgrade tool is a work in progress I imagine. bug reports would probably help make it better.
[10:40] <stdin> tobias: RemoteScriptEditWindow ? what's that?
[10:40] <waylandbill> I'
[10:40] <Black_Monkey> tobias: afaik, it doesn't work like that in Konversation, you can't use mIRC scripts
[10:40] <ScorpKing> i'm trying to compile ctorrent but ./configure sais 'error, Please install OpenSSL first!'. i have the openssl package installed. what's going on?
[10:40] <Black_Monkey> tobias: you need to write scripts in python or something, and load them into Konversation
[10:40] <tobias> stdin: heh, I do not know the exact name but it is the window where you can edit scripts for IRC
[10:41] <tobias> Black_Monkey: oh, so there is no IRC-coding possible with linux ?
[10:41] <waylandbill> sorush21: I've looked at that code. The small portion I worked on was written well.
[10:41] <tobias> *with konversation
[10:41] <Black_Monkey> tobias: there is, as I say, writing it in languages such as python
[10:41] <stdin> tobias: you have to write the scripts yourself, or get them from somewhere. and you can't use mirc scripts
[10:41] <Black_Monkey> but the scripting in mIRC was something written for mIRC, and exists just in that program
[10:42] <tobias> okay, I thought it works with all IRC-Programs
[10:42] <tobias> thanks for the informations
[10:42] <tobias> :)
[10:42] <BluesKaj> Tucker87, the entry under title windows at the very bottom puzzles me ...I don't have such an entry , the one above , ending in "chainloader +1" is the std model so to speak
[10:42] <sorush21> well I also have another problem.. my keyboad sometime freezes.. when I logout using the mouse and go into gdm the keyboad starts to work again what could be the problem?
[10:42] <tobias> so 2years of coding with mirc was for ... nothing <.<
[10:42] <Black_Monkey> tobias: mIRC works fine with wine, if you really need the scripts
[10:42] <Doctor_Nick> whats the default www directory for apache 2
[10:42] <tobias> yeap, I thought so already, thanks
[10:42] <waylandbill> sorush21: but that doesn't mean it's complete or bug free. :)
[10:43] <mefisto__> Tucker87: can you afford to lose data on the windows partition? if yes, try running chkdsk from your windows cd in recovery console
[10:43] <Tucker87> It's my brothers computer
[10:43] <Tucker87> So I don't know what I can lose lol
[10:43] <mefisto__> don't chkdsk then
[10:43] <Tucker87> And the last "Windows" Entry was me adding to the menu.lst
[10:43] <Tucker87> Trying to find a setting that would work
[10:44] <ScorpKing> Tucker87: get a puppylinux cd to copy the data off the windows disk.
[10:44] <Tucker87> someone had suggested using the rootnoverify on a forum.
[10:44] <BluesKaj> Tucker87,my pc has the same windows entry ..I'm dual booting with no probs , so i think the bottom entry can go .... stdin, do you agree ?
[10:45] <Tucker87> My other computer has the standard entry and it boots
[10:45] <Tucker87> So I know it can go. I just added it on there.
[10:45] <BluesKaj> I've never seen that before Tucker87
[10:45] <stdin> yep
[10:46] <waylandbill> I've seen rootnoverify before for ntfs partitions.
[10:46] <Tucker87> So outside of a back up and reinstall I am kinda out options... sucks
[10:46] <soulrider> !xorg
[10:46] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:47] <mefisto__> Tucker87: you could backup and try chkdsk before reinstalling
[10:47] <BluesKaj> no Tucker87 , delete the botton entry as suggested , I think it's causing windows to hang
[10:47] <waylandbill> the rootnoverify just replaces the root entry.
[10:47] <BluesKaj> bottom
[10:47] <Tucker87> No couldn't be. It hung before I put that there.
[10:48] <BluesKaj> hmmm bummer
[10:48] <mefisto__> Tucker87: do you have an empty line at the end of menu.lst?
[10:48] <Doctor_Nick> !apache
[10:48] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:48] <Tucker87> Hmm good question. I will check my whitespacing
[10:48] <inaety_> when itry to start compiz-fusion, i lose my window decorations...any ideas?
[10:48] <seanpcrowe> hey peeps, is there a channel for byrel?
[10:49] <seanpcrowe> *beryl
[10:49] <Tucker87> Yeah, there is a blank line...
[10:49] <BluesKaj> !beryl
[10:49] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:49] <waylandbill> ok. rootnoverify tells grub to not attempt to mount the partition. It can make sense if using the chainloader command.
[10:49] <sorush21> Doctor_Nick: /var/www
[10:49] <seanpcrowe> kk tkx
[10:49] <Doctor_Nick> sorush21: is there a good gui manager for apache?
[10:50] <ph4l4nx> hello@all
[10:50] <sorush21> Doctor_Nick: not that I've herd of
[10:51] <Tucker87> Arg, so annoying. I have no idea where his files are all at. They seem to be scattered all over the ntfs drive.
[10:51] <mefisto__> Tucker87: you could also try restoring the windows mbr to see if you can get it to boot at all
[10:51] <mefisto__> Tucker87: it might not be a grub problem at all
[10:51] <waylandbill> sorush21: not that I know of, but the conf directives are well documented.
[10:52] <BluesKaj> !super grub disk
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about super grub disk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <Tucker87> Could be. Got a tutorial? I have never tried to put windows bootloader back on... Gotten it off before lol
[10:52] <BluesKaj> !info super grub disk
[10:52] <waylandbill> Tucker87: recovery console of the windows install cd.
[10:52] <ubotu> super: Execute commands setuid root. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.26.1-1 (feisty), package size 122 kB, installed size 852 kB
[10:53] <BluesKaj> bahh
[10:53] <Tucker87> Right, Where did I put that disk....
[10:53] <gilles> when I install the nvidia driver I have "API mismatch: the client has the version 1.0-9755, but this kernel module has the version 100.14.11" what must I do to solve it
[10:53] <mefisto__> Tucker87: boot from windows cd, go into repair or recovery console. the command is "fixmbr"
[10:53] <waylandbill> Tucker87: boot, bring up the manual recovery, and ask for help. The command will be fixmbr or the like.
[10:54] <waylandbill> the help will give the other supported commands as well.
[10:54] <Tucker87> Alright thanks, I will have to try it later. I have to run some errands first.
[10:54] <Tucker87> Thanks a ton guys.
[10:54] <BluesKaj> good ol' fixmbr :)
[10:54] <Tucker87> Buh' bye :-)
[10:55] <gilles> no one for my problem
[10:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> just arrived, what would that problem be?
[10:56] <gilles> when I install the nvidia driver I have "API mismatch: the client has the version 1.0-9755, but this kernel module has the version 100.14.11" what must I do to solve it
[10:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> how did you install the driver?
[10:57] <gilles> I have download the driver on the nvidia website
[10:58] <gilles> and install it
[10:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> that was your first mistake.
[10:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> !nvidia
[10:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> read that and do what it says :)
[10:59] <gilles> Daisuke-Ido: ok
[11:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> it will save you a world of headaches, trust me
[11:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> i used to go the download from site/install route.  i had to recompile the kernel module every kernel update, and it just turns out that using the nvidia-glx package has a whole lot less headaches
[11:02] <BluesKaj> seems we gave him the same advice yesterday
[11:08] <stdin> deviance: don't use nick change on away
[11:09] <deviance> Sorry, Its set to do that in the client, and I haven't got round to changing it
[11:09] <deviance> Changed :D
[11:09] <stdin> deviance: good good :)
[11:12] <caesar_> how do I clear my recent documents history?
[11:12] <sehe> caesar_: kcontrol, privacy
[11:12] <seanpcrowe> do i have to restart X after installing beryl?
[11:12] <sehe> seanpcrowe: depends
[11:13] <seanpcrowe> mmm, i installed beryl, and i am in the manger options now, most things are enable but no fancy effects yet
[11:13] <sehe> seanpcrowe: not strictly (just use beryl-manager to switch wm). THough, if you had to configure a GL extension to X for the first time, which islikely, you'll have to retart X
[11:14] <sehe> retart* = restart
[11:14] <seanpcrowe> switch wm sehe??
[11:14] <sehe> just use beryl-manager.
[11:14] <sehe> !wm | seanpcrowe
[11:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <sehe> haha
[11:14] <sehe> *wm =windowmanager
[11:14] <caesar_> thanks sehe
[11:15] <sehe> caesar_: btw. with me (updated kicker/kickoff) I have a clear 'history' right at the top of my recent documents submenu...
[11:15] <svu> how would I enable mp3 ripping in kaffeine?
[11:15] <sehe> svu: i think it should automatically work after installing lame
[11:16] <deviance> How do I install MP support for Amarok;
[11:16] <svu> sehe, I have just installed lame - still only ogg :(
[11:16] <sehe> svu: sudo apt-get install lame
[11:16] <sehe> svu: funny, lemme see for myself :)
[11:16] <caesar_> sehe. Hm. I just installed Kicker a few days ago. I don't see what you were talking about
[11:16] <deviance> What package is MP3 again?
[11:16] <seanpcrowe> ok sehe... thanks dude =)
[11:16] <waylandbill> !mp3
[11:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:16] <sehe> caesar_: i have the update from the Suse project.
[11:17] <sehe> caesar_: it's like a preview - i suppose the features will be mainstream kde in the future
[11:17] <waylandbill> it's not lame. It's libxine-extracodecs
[11:17] <caesar_> hm. The recent history isn't showing my recent applications, also. Do I have to run them from the icon, or is something off?
[11:18] <waylandbill> oh. kaffeine ripping. that's lame. guess I should'
[11:18] <waylandbill> ve scrolled up.
[11:18] <svu> waylandbill, thanks, I'll try
[11:18] <caesar_> @sehe
[11:18] <sehe> caesar_: i suppose, the recent applications should be in a separate area in the start menu (it is with me). again, i use a slightly modified kicker version from standard kubuntu
[11:19] <deviance> Adept just crashed, when I start it it tells me I wont be able to install new programs, how do I unlock it?
[11:19] <sehe> caesar_: you could see if you can find an option that's disabled, by rightclicking the menu and scanning the config settings
[11:19] <caesar_> sehe. I got mine from kde-look.org. I'm actually running Ubuntu with KDE installed.
[11:20] <spider> DFSFFA
[11:20] <spider> HOLAAAA
[11:20] <mahdi_> what option would i set to get conky to display along the top of the screen?
[11:20] <caesar_> I'll try that. Any other ideas where there might be a cord unplugged?
[11:20] <spider> efefssfs
[11:20] <stdin> !es | spider
[11:20] <ubotu> spider: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:20] <sehe> caesar_: ok - you might have the same version. anyway, ymmv, scan the config (KDE is big at options).
[11:21] <svu> waylandbill, libxine-extracodecs installed. still kaffeine offers only ogg
[11:21] <spider> gracias
[11:21] <spider> thank you
[11:22] <svu> waylandbill, any other way to rip mp3? kioslave audio:/ copies 0-size mp3s (and valid oggs) :(((
[11:22] <linuksamiko> hej, I just wanted to install kde4 b2 but the packages in the backports are (still) b1
[11:22] <sehe> linuksamiko: there you said it.. good luck compiling :) and #ubuntu+1
[11:22] <stdin> linuksamiko: yes, it'll be a while
[11:23] <caesar_> "KDE is big at options" which is why I like it :).
[11:23] <sehe> caesar_: who doesn't (at least from us ppl here :D)
[11:23] <linuksamiko> sehe: it was announced on kubuntu.org that it would be in backports for feisty
[11:24] <linuksamiko> stdin: then I probaply have to wait a few hourse / days
[11:24] <sehe> linuksamiko: ok i missed the news then. but still, it could be a while
[11:24] <stdin> linuksamiko: it will, it's building now, hopefully done tonight
[11:25] <caesar_> heh. KDE knows that a frustrating lack of buttons takes more time to figure out than a search bar ;)
[11:25] <linuksamiko> stdin: cool, I need to try the new kvoctrain. The version right now is pain in the
[11:27] <caesar_> sehe. No luck finding anything in the config about recent apps.
[11:28] <deviance> stdin: When I tried to install libxine1-ffmpeg it told me that it could not commit the change
[11:28] <deviance> Any ideas why??
[11:28] <stdin> deviance: try with apt-get maybe
[11:29] <deviance> What would the command be?
[11:30] <stdin> deviance: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[11:30] <deviance>   sun-java6-jre: Depends: sun-java6-bin (= 6-00-2ubuntu2) but it is not going to                                                                                be installed or
[11:30] <deviance>                           ia32-sun-java6-bin (= 6-00-2ubuntu2) but it is not ins                                                                                tallable
[11:30] <gilles> Daisuke-Ido: have you an explanasion of this problem
[11:30] <deviance> Ah Java cloged it up
[11:30] <stdin> !paste | deviance
[11:30] <ubotu> deviance: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:31] <deviance> How can i sort that out?
[11:31] <deviance> Sorry
[11:31] <deviance> Will apt-get -f install work?
[11:31] <stdin> deviance: try it out
[11:32] <gilles> Daisuke_Laptop: do you have an explanation of this problem
[11:32] <deviance> stdin: I have a blue screen and I need to press ok, but I can seem to press it? Or get my cursor to it
[11:32] <deviance> Ah done
[11:32] <deviance> tab :P
[11:33] <stdin> yep
[11:33] <deviance> That worked
[11:33] <deviance> Back to MP3 install :D
[11:33] <Doctor_Nick> hell yeah
[11:33] <Doctor_Nick> ampache is workin'
[11:34] <stdin> deviance: if you want to rip MP3s, try "audiocd:/" in konqueror and go in to the MP3 folder, then just copy and paste (assuming you have the CD inserted)
[11:34] <deviance> Ok :D
[11:34] <deviance> I was just tying to get amarok to work :P
[11:35] <stdin> deviance: ahh, then that package is the one you want :)
[11:35] <deviance> :D
[11:41] <ScorpKing> amarok needs libxine-extracodecs to play mp3's :)
[11:41] <stdin> ScorpKing: not in feisty+, that's just a transitional package
[11:42] <ScorpKing> that's what i use in feisty.
[11:42] <ScorpKing> oh i see
[11:42] <ScorpKing> lol
[11:42] <stdin> :)
[11:42] <stdin> moves mp3 support from multiverse to universe, which is nice
[11:45] <spider> hello i am from spain,...
[11:46] <stdin> spider: there is a spanish channel at #kubuntu-es if you want to speak spanish
[11:46] <spider> i have a question: do you know how  can i personaliza konqueror with difereents wallpapers in diferents windows?
[11:47] <spider> yess i know that but no one knows that
[11:47] <drif> spider: you mean virtual desktops?
[11:47] <danielronin> stdin:  i fixed the making ext3 problems i was having making ext3 partition. i just made an ext2 and activated journaling =)
[11:47] <stdin> heh
[11:47] <danielronin> just wanted to thank you for assistance, and ask if you could help me with GRUB settings to find a distro installed to that partition
[11:48] <danielronin> ah nvrmind, #ubuntu is more active, ill try there
[11:48] <spider> no,that i want to say is the imaage that youu can see in the window,for defect is white but we can chage to other ccolor or iimage...
[11:49] <xp_killer> stdin: how do the tool for searching search?if im looking for a file name naruto,and i type naru in the search tool will it show me the file naruto?
[11:49] <stdin> danielronin: normally you can just copy one of the ubuntu menu entries and modify the title, root, kernel and initrd entries
[11:50] <stdin> xp_killer: Kmenu -> Find Files/Folders
[11:50] <spider> i know how i can change and put an immage, but when i try that i see thaat image in all the windows, aand that i want to do is only  in some of one
[11:50] <stdin> spider: not sure you can, try asking in #kde
[11:50] <ordinor> how do I switch to a console only runlevel and back again?
[11:51] <spider> thanks stdin
[11:51] <stdin> ordinor: logout, then go to console, login there and type "telinit 1" then when done "telinit 2" to get back
[11:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> ordinor: what are you trying to do, first?
[11:52] <ordinor> I want to make some changes to my xorg.conf
[11:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> because this sounds like someone trying to install nvidia drivers
[11:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> yeah
[11:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> you don't have to change runlevels
[11:52] <stdin> ordinor: you don't need to do that in console mode..
[11:52] <spider> but i think i can because i saw that in capture images that you can see diferents windows with diferets  "wallpapers"
[11:52] <stdin> ordinor: "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf", edit it, logout and restart X
[11:52] <ordinor> what If I'm used to doing it that way and that's the way I want to do it?
[11:53] <stdin> ordinor: if you want to do it the other way, I just told you how :)
[11:53] <ordinor> will try, thanks
[12:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> evening, stdin
[12:00] <stdin> hey :)
[12:00] <tsb> Skype always starts for me, I can always hear the others, but they can only hear me sometimes - usually nothing. I've compared alsamixer to when it works and doesn't work, and they are identical. I've also disabled skype's automatic volume settings. What is wrong?
[12:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> i just read the info on ati
[12:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> they're looking like a better option all the time
[12:02] <danielronin> stdin: can i make it work without the initrd option?
[12:03] <ScorpKing> spider: u still there?
[12:04] <stdin> danielronin: depends on the distribution, if they don't ship one, then you don't need it
[12:04] <danielronin> ok thanks. i just made some changes to menu.lst, added the boot option, i'm gonna give it a shot now
[12:05] <stdin> Daisuke_Laptop: they are only opening the specs, not the drivers
[12:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> since the specs will be open, that will make a free 3d driver that much easier to implement, though
[12:06] <xevil> I just installed Feisty and am having an issue with Konqueror... it appears to be a permissions thing as I can only get Konqueror to browse the internet as superuser... anyone have an idea how to fix this?
[12:07] <stdin> Daisuke_Laptop: depends if it's the full specs, or just the 2d functions
[12:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> why the eff would you want to browse the net as a superuser?
[12:07] <xevil> who said I want to?
[12:07] <Kr4t05> SuperUser!
[12:07] <Kr4t05> Awaayyyy!
[12:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> okay, that post could be taken two ways
[12:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> apparently you meant it the way i didn't take it
[12:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> it could be "i want to browse the net as su and only konqueror will let me" or "i want to browse the net, but all i can use is konqueror, and only as a superuser"
[12:08] <xevil> IRC works fine as a user, but Konqueror returns an error when run as a user that It can't connect
[12:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah ha
[12:09] <Kr4t05> xevil: Try resetting networking.
[12:09] <stdin> what exact error?
[12:09] <stdin> that may help us diagnose
[12:10] <xevil> Could not connect to host http://www.google.com/.
[12:10] <xevil> that is basically it
[12:10] <xevil> I am on a dialup currently
[12:11] <ordinor> no luck.  it hung after telinit 1 on the blue kubuntu screen with the status bar.  I waited a long time then shut it down with ctrl-alt-del
[12:11] <spider> i am still here, yess
[12:12] <dthacker-lt> xevil: what happens when you browse as a mere mortal?
[12:13] <ordinor> I got to console mode ok.  Did I need the telinit 1 ?
[12:13] <xevil> that is the error I get when attempting to browse as a user... that is what leads me to think it's some bizarre permissions thing
[12:13] <ScorpKing> spider: open a few tabs and in each of then go to View -> Configure Background. set a background for each tab.
[12:13] <stdin> ordinor: you have to do Ctrl-Alt-F1 to tell usplash to go away after it stops
[12:14] <ordinor> I think I'll try it again without the telinit 1
[12:14] <spider> i am going to do that
[12:15] <xp_killer> stdin: it doesnt find the avi movie files it seems
[12:16] <ScorpKing> ordinor: the only way to get to runlevel one it seems is to boot into it from the grub menu.
[12:16] <ordinor> stdin:  I thought that I tried that and that ctrl-alt-F1 did not work.  I may not be remembering that right
[12:17] <stdin> ordinor: I'm not 100% on that, I always disable the usplash option
[12:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> try alt-f8 as well
[12:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> ctrl-alt-f8 that is
[12:17] <ordinor> what's on f8 ?
[12:17] <stdin> changes to tty/vt8
[12:18] <ordinor> any reason for f8 to be there when f1 is not?
[12:18] <ScorpKing> stdin: if usplash is enabled going down to runlevel1 doesn't work. on my box at least...
[12:19] <ordinor> Did I find a bug?
[12:19] <stdin> ScorpKing: for some it does, for some it doesn't, you can always try "sudo killall -9 usplash" first
[12:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> doubtful
[12:19] <ScorpKing> stdin: i'll try that next time. it used to work in 6.10.
[12:20] <ordinor> no process killed
[12:21] <spider> ScorpKing,i have proved that but that doesnt work
[12:22] <ScorpKing> spider: it works for me but you have to be in file manger mode.
[12:22] <ordinor> does logging out and going to console not put the computer in runlevel 1 ?
[12:22] <ScorpKing> *manager
[12:22] <ScorpKing> ordinor: no.
[12:22] <ordinor> oh
[12:24] <ScorpKing> ordinor: the only way you're gonna get there is when the computer starts up - press <ESC> and select the second option in grub. if you don't want to do it that way disable usplash in /boot/grub/menu.list
[12:25] <ordinor> well, ya gotta do what ya gotta do
[12:25] <ScorpKing> yip
[12:27] <ordinor> file changed, rebooting
[12:27] <spider> yes i am in file maneger mode, and i can do what i asked, but when i explore otther site in the same window the iimage is thee same
[12:28] <spider> the image is not only for the direectory i change before
[12:30] <ScorpKing> spider: there is an option to put a hidden config file in each directory to control the way it behaves but i can't remember where i've seen it.
[12:32] <Dhraakellian> how long will it be before KDE4 beta2 is in feisty-backports?
[12:33] <ordinor> that worked, there was more going on than what i'm used to, but it worked.  Thanks
[12:33] <stdin> Dhraakellian: a while
[12:34] <ordinor> I wonder what it would take to set up a multiuser, no X, runlevel
[12:34] <ordinor> like on a server
[12:34] <Dhraakellian> stdin: and I'm guessing that the more people ask, the slower the packaging systems compile?
[12:34] <ScorpKing> ordinor: an alternative install cd.
[12:34] <stdin> Dhraakellian: no, but it seems like it :p
[12:35] <stdin> ordinor: not much, just remove the kdm link from /etc/rc3.d/ and then runlevel 3 is a multiuser, no X runlevel
[12:36] <spider> i saw in my directories a hidden file which name is .directory, maybe i must to edit it?
[12:37] <ScorpKing> spider: i'm not sure. let me check.
[12:37] <ordinor> not change it to K99kdm ?
[12:37] <zengen> Hi, I think I went about getting my keyboard to work the wrong way.  I read that to get it fully supported I need to compile it into the kernel.  I did this.  Reading further on it turns out this was only for the 'special' keys.  My problem is that that number pad and function keys do not work.  Does anyone have a suggestion?


[23:15] <aeon-ltd> carkie: but wouldn't that just stack onto the existing ping? thus not making it any fairer at all?
[23:15] <ikonia> cablop: I have setuid set on multiple files here
[23:15] <cablop> let me try :)
[23:15] <etheretic1> Hello! Is there a way to ensure that icons in the notification area don't have too much space to  each side? Looks silly.
[23:15] <GanonKiller> i cannot find the drivers for my ETAK GPS Card ET-GPS1 for Meerkat
[23:16] <cablop> etheretic1: i think compact view in nautilus does it
[23:16] <etheretic1> cablop: panel, not filer (na.).
[23:17] <carkie> aeon-ltd: the host always gets a slight advantage so i want to use the program to delay the host
[23:17] <cablop> ah, sorry got confused
[23:17] <vocx> etheretic1, I don't think so. Perhaps there is a way, but wouldn't know. Seems a little hard-wired.
[23:18] <carkie> aeon-ltd: i have a program for windows but not stable enough for my server
[23:18] <cablop> yes, gnome nowadays is carrying that simplicity thing tooooooooo far.... and it's disgusting
[23:18] <etheretic1> bluetooth and sound icons grab enough space for 4-5 programs.
[23:18] <aeon-ltd> carkie: sorry to have wasted some of your time but i don't know any, however considering this is a general linux query there are thouasands of users across freenode to ask
[23:18] <tripelb> hey! Is there a way I can open all the same windows on restart? 10.04
[23:19] <cablop> etheretic1: i had to reduce panel size from 24 to 20 on my netbook in the mean time... also want to know how to reduce same space
[23:19] <Slipknot6669> Im wondering if someone can help me troubleshoot a sound problem? I just got a RocketFish 5.1 Sound Card, and I installed but cant seem to find the drivers. The disk isnt working apparently because they are for Windows. So I have no sound. Can someone help me with some info on where I might get the drivers? I tried System/Administrator/Additional Drivers, and all it finds is for my Video Card.
[23:19] <carkie> aeon-ltd:  k thnx for ur time :)
[23:19] <rationalOgre> So, at present my gdm resolution is different from my desktop resolution on my desktop. (Laptop defaults to same resolution for both) How would I go about correcting that?
[23:19] <etheretic1> cablop: it persists irrespective of scaling.
[23:20] <cablop> etheretic1: yup, but my other icons became smaller XD
[23:20] <aqw> trism, I uninstalled "indicator-messages" but mail icon is still there...
[23:20] <rationalOgre> Or perhaps stated more clearly, how do I go about setting the default screen resolution for 10.04 so that both GDM and Gnome see it?
[23:20] <tripelb> Isn't this an easy question??  Is there a way I can automatically open all the same windows and tabs on restart? 10.04
[23:20] <sille777> good afternoon all
[23:21] <Kyle__> tripelb: It may be, but whoever knows isn't awake or in here.  Give it time.
[23:21] <aeon-ltd> tripelb: system > preferences > startup apps, there should be a option
[23:21] <sille777> I'm having an issue with Chromium not starting after upgrade to maverick
[23:21] <tripelb> OK will come back.. ok aeon-ltd I'll look. Thanks for that both of you Kyle__
[23:21] <aqw> trism, it works! thank you very much!
[23:21] <aeon-ltd> sille777: tried reinstalling?
[23:21] <sille777> not yet
[23:22] <GanonKiller> sille777...whats the prob?
[23:22] <Slipknot6669> No takers on sound driver problems right now?
[23:22] <sille777> Chromium wont even start...
[23:23] <Slipknot6669> sille777-Try removing and reinstalling
[23:23] <aeon-ltd> sille777: well you may as well try, to start
[23:23] <sille777> the was a crash report but it disappeared and now it wont start the browser
[23:23] <GanonKiller> sille777... try updating
[23:23] <george_> hey my torrent is not working. it show connected peers for more than 9 hours for a doucment with a size of 23mb
[23:24] <sille777> i did run the update program
[23:24] <tripelb> ..  aeon-ltd .  Kyle__  exactly. In ystem > preferences > startup apps > Options  It's the only option.  Everything else possible is checked. TY!
[23:24] <momentum> in ubuntu, is there a way to benchmark / stress test your HD?
[23:24] <george_> can someone pls tell me whts wrong with my torrent
[23:24] <GanonKiller> george... try resetting peers & bans
[23:24] <chrisbuchholz> Hey guys. I have a problem with gnome-terminal, vim and screen. Here's a picture of the color different in vim when it's run in screen and in the gnome-terminal. Of course, i dont want this different. I have installed the ncurses-term package. I currently "defbce on" and "term screen-256color-bce" in my .screenrc and "set t_Co=256" in my .vimrc. If i remove the "set t_Co=256" from my .vimrc, gnome-terminal uses, what looks like defa
[23:24] <Slipknot6669> sille777-Try removing and reinstalling
[23:24] <george_> i have tried tht alredy
[23:24] <vocx> george_, that doesn't imply the fault of Ubuntu, may be you have no peers or your ISP is blocking torrent traffic.
[23:24] <george_> okay thanx
[23:24] <sille777> just marked and applied for reinstalation on chromium
[23:25] <GanonKiller> sille777: dont just reinstall.... mark for complete removal
[23:25] <sille777> ok...
[23:25] <aeon-ltd> momentum: just out of curiousity, why? performance is limited by bandwidth and its spin, its not like you can 'overclock' a hdd
[23:25] <wintech> /sbin/lilo
[23:25] <vocx> sille777, run chormium from the command line once it's installed. That should spit some errors in case in crashes.
[23:26] <llac> how do I move NetworkManager applet?
[23:26] <aeon-ltd> momentum: i mean finding out average read andd writes is good, but a stress test?
[23:26] <llac> how do I move NetworkManager applet in the panel?
[23:26] <yo2boy_> im disliking 10.10 so much
[23:26] <aeon-ltd> llac: right click
[23:26] <etheret1c> llac: it's part of the notification area.
[23:26] <sille777> how do i do that from the command line....still a bit of noob to the comand line
[23:27] <vocx> !who | sille777
[23:27] <GanonKiller> llac: also make sure to unlock the panel
[23:27] <sille777> just did the complete removal
[23:27] <llac> aeon-ltd, etheret1c: right click, but I didn't see the move command!
[23:27] <etheret1c> llac: untick lock.
[23:28] <GanonKiller> sille777.... just type chromium in the terminal
[23:28] <Diverdude> will locate not index files on removable devices?
[23:28] <llac> etheret1c: I didn't see lock either! It's very strange
[23:28] <llac> etheret1c: It's not like the other applet
[23:29] <sille777> GanonKiller: I'm now reinstalling after removal
[23:29] <Diverdude> will locate not index files on removable devices?
[23:29] <rationalOgre> NM, figured it out. Had to edit the init file for GDM
[23:29] <aeon-ltd> llac: on free space on the panel, not on the applet
[23:29]  * etheret1c notes that gui filers haven't changed notably since they were introduced by xerox over 35 years ago.
[23:29] <GanonKiller> llac: right-click the applet... & unkey the lock applet
[23:29] <Flare183> I am having major lag issues with my graphics driver or with xorg, before I upgarded my screen would blink, flicker, or just chop off. But now its just lags and doesn't do anything until I move the mouse. How can can I fix this?
[23:29] <aeon-ltd> meh
[23:30] <vocx> Diverdude, in general locate is not reliable to find files, if you really want to find files use the command "find" It is more complicated to use though.
[23:30] <Diverdude> vocx, why is locate not reliable?
[23:30] <sille777> GanonKiller : chromium command not found
[23:30] <cablop> what is the difference between chmod g+s and g+S or u+x and u+X?
[23:30] <GanonKiller> sille777... ok hold on
[23:31] <tech_> hi i was just wondering on how to turn an old Desktop into a server?
[23:31] <merma> how do I remove the keyboard layout icon from the notification area?
[23:31] <vocx> Diverdude, because it depends on having a database updated. I really don't know how it works, or its limitations, while "find" will always search every file.   Do "updatedb" before "locate" always.
[23:31] <xangua> install ubuntu server merma¿
[23:31] <etheret1c> are there no linux filers with database-like features? Sort of tricky managing the contents of 5-6 TB drives w. 10000's of files each.
[23:31]  * sille777 is holding on
[23:31] <merma> xangua, mm i don't want to
[23:31] <GanonKiller> sille: type 'chromium-browser' in terminal
[23:31] <tech_> hi i was just wondering on how to turn an old Desktop into a server? private message me
[23:31] <etheret1c> 5-6 1-TB drives.
[23:31] <Diverdude> vocx, but find is so much slower than locate because it has to search the whole ahrddisk each time i invoke it
[23:32] <Diverdude> vocx, locate is much faster becauser it indexes the files
[23:32] <xangua> merma: you want a server but you don't want a server¿
[23:32] <sille777> GanonKiller: Attempting to load the system libmoon
[23:32] <sille777> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[23:32] <merma> xangua, i think that's tech_
[23:32] <xangua> mmm sorry, that was to tech_
[23:32] <tech_> pardon?
[23:32] <llac> I right click on free space on panel, and get: add to the panel, properties, delete this panel, new panel, help, and about!!!
[23:33] <xangua> install ubuntu server tech_
[23:33] <tech_> ok link?
[23:33] <xangua> ubuntu.com
[23:33] <tech_> thanks then were abouts is it on the page?
[23:33] <tech_> just under the boot download?
[23:33] <llac> when right click on NetworkManager applet, I didn't see move or clock command
[23:33] <DeaCon> http://www.ubuntu.com/server
[23:33] <tech_> thanks dea
[23:34] <merma> how do I remove the keyboard layout icon from the notification area?
[23:34] <vocx> Diverdude, yes, but as I said, I don't know if locate will in fact index all your files. It's not very clear. Who updates the database? Is it a cron job? Daily? I don't know.
[23:34] <tech_> merma
[23:35] <Dice-Man> left clik
[23:35] <tech_> right click the icon and then click remove
[23:35] <etheret1c> llac: u et control over the not. area by right-clicking on the "ribs" leftmost in the area.
[23:35] <jdeloach> I have a strange problem... when I try to write to one of my SATA disks it freezes all access to the disk, I kill Samba, unmount/remount, then I can see things again. I can read from it just fine... but after writting 26.7 MB it fails to write again.... I can read gigabytes just can't write on the specific HDD.
[23:35] <cablop> ikonia: the setuid does not work :(
[23:35] <cablop> ikonia: but the setgid works, and thatś enough by now
[23:35] <Diverdude> vocx, i see...what is cron?
[23:35] <merma> tech_, theres no context menu
[23:36] <Cpt_Zyph> hey guys, the 10.10 version of netbook ubuntu seems to freeze at random times.. mostly when videos are involved... how do i check some sorta hang error log to find out what is going on ...
[23:36] <Cpt_Zyph> its a entire system hang and must be hard shutdown to resolve.. but if suond is playing etc it gets stuck in a loop untill i hold the netbooks power button and turn it off the hard way
[23:36] <vocx> Diverdude, cron is a program that runs a command at specific times. I believe cron run updatedb every time you start the computer, but I'm not sure.  "man cron"
[23:36] <zombiej> cpt_Zyph does it smooth out after a few seconds?
[23:37] <yo2boy_> anyone help me with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1600222
[23:37] <Cpt_Zyph> zombiej nope
[23:37] <sille777> GanonKiller Attempting to load the system libmoon  Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[23:37] <Cpt_Zyph> zombiej i left it runing for over 15 min
[23:37] <rohan> i have ubuntu 10.10 installed. my laptop (sony vaio cw) has an nvidia card. but the latest version fo the driver doesn't work, so i used the 256.53 driver. however, i can't control the laptop screen brightness
[23:37] <rohan> using either the Fn keys, or smartdimmer
[23:37] <cablop> Cpt_Zyph: install htop, then try to move to a pure tty and run it, you can test if it is an issue related to CPU, RAM, SWAP...
[23:37] <GanonKiller> sille777... that sounds like a bug
[23:38] <cablop> Cpt_Zyph: i think it is somehting in the latest updates, mine is not maverick and started to do that a few weeks ago
[23:38] <rohan> !nvidia
[23:38] <zombiej> dont know if this is the right place but anybody know if i can network my win7 pc to my netbook to share video and music?
[23:38] <Cpt_Zyph> cablop may i ask what you mean by move to a pure tty?? sry a bit new here
[23:38] <jdeloach> Oi! I have a problem writting to one of my HDD's where the data is larger than 26.7 MB... I can write a text file just fine, but when trying to copy a larger file fails and makes the drive unresponsive. Any ideas?
[23:38] <Cpt_Zyph> cablop the older version 10.04 was working great but ya its related to this new version thats for sure
[23:38] <Cpt_Zyph> cablop and thank you for the direction
[23:39] <sille777> GanonKiller that stinks....
[23:39] <cablop> if you press ctrl+alt+<an f key> you move between ttys in your system, 1~6 are shells, and 7~and above the graphic sessions, if you started more than one, typically f7 or f8 will get you to the default one
[23:40] <GanonKiller> Cpt_Zyph: the Alternate Ubuntu install in better
[23:40] <cablop> Cpt_Zyph: see my message above
[23:40] <zombiej> can you network win 7 pc to ubuntu netbook? videos and music?
[23:40] <GanonKiller> zombiej: use SAMBA
[23:40] <cablop> Cpt_Zyph: htop is a shell resource monitor, so you can run it in a pure shell
[23:40] <GanonKiller> sille777: it happens
[23:40] <Cpt_Zyph> cablop i see so alt f2 etc
[23:40] <Cpt_Zyph> cablop or boot to no gui
[23:40] <melon> Hey quick question, I am running 10.10-64bit and I installed Python 2.7 from source on the Python home page. And now I am having all kinds of things not work, is there any way for me  to uninstall python 2.7 and point everything back to python 2.6.5 (thats still installed)
[23:40] <cablop> Cpt_Zyph: no no
[23:41] <zombiej> GanonKiller thanks ill check it out
[23:41] <Cpt_Zyph> GanonKiller ill look for the alt install still new to this so im guessing a link to it is avail off the main page
[23:41] <Cpt_Zyph> cablop sry i must of miss understood
[23:41] <cablop> Cpt_Zyph: ctrl+alt+f1 to go to first tty, then ctrl+alt+f7 (or f8, maybe)
[23:41] <Cpt_Zyph> cablop rereading
[23:41] <GanonKiller> Sille777: no prob... goto #ubuntu-devel
[23:41] <cablop> Cpt_Zyph: ctrl+alt+f1 to go to first tty, then ctrl+alt+f7 (or f8, maybe) to go back to session
[23:41] <Cpt_Zyph> cablop ok so i dont have to change run lvls to no gui
[23:42] <Bilz> help
[23:42] <Cpt_Zyph> cablop u mean to run htop or to test if machine is locked up
[23:42] <Bilz> i removed network-manager
[23:42] <Bilz> and cant get the internet on my laptop now, and cant reinstall!
[23:42] <melon> @Blitz: removed from where the system or menu?
[23:42] <GanonKiller> bilz: calm down
[23:42] <Bilz> terminal, system
[23:42] <northtigger> My PC boot without Chinese input sorftware, how can I do?anyone could help me?
[23:42] <zombiej> GanonKiller what do i use on the win 7 side?
[23:42] <cablop> Cpt_Zyph: no you don't.... and it is useful when you just need to do soething very simple with an user not willing to load  a whole gui
[23:42] <Bilz> tried to use wicd which was a disaster
[23:43] <melon> @Blitz: What version you running
[23:43] <GanonKiller> bilz: run apt-get update then upgrade
[23:43] <songer> hello i'm looking for some aplication to know the weather, i found weatherbug is great, but is only for 32 bits i just install it in my 64 bits but i have somo issues
[23:43] <Bilz> 10.04
[23:43] <cablop> Cpt_Zyph: then, when my netbook hangs, i moved to the first tty... and run htop from there, i can see that often is the flashplayer eating resources
[23:43] <Bilz> i have no internet GanonKiller
[23:43] <songer>  i want to know you guys know other app to know the weather?
[23:43] <Cpt_Zyph> well when machine locks up its everything i tryed changing to tty before . ( didnt relize thats what it was called sry for my lack of terms) but when netbook locks up its froze
[23:43] <melon> @songer: there is a nice little menu applet for weather in the software manger
[23:44] <cablop> Cpt_Zyph: also, another cause could be the kryptd daemon... :(
[23:44] <Cpt_Zyph> cablop thats a guess sense it happens on youtube or movies quite often then not
[23:44] <GanonKiller> Bilz: pop in the ubuntu cd... & update from there
[23:44] <maheanuu_> OK, I just up graded from Ubuntu studio 10.04 to the 10.10 64 bit version of Meerkat and now my downloads folder is having out of world experience by being opened or trying to be opened by Movie Player????
[23:44] <Cpt_Zyph> cablop ack all over my head
[23:44] <Bilz> GanonKiller, is there a way to use my usb stick? i installed ubuntu from a usb stick
[23:44] <GanonKiller> yes
[23:44] <Cpt_Zyph> cablop ill start with htop first and see how its looking .. other then that when system hangs is there any kind of log that is created? something i can review after a hard reboot
[23:44] <cablop> Cpt_Zyph: but maybe in your case it could be another program
[23:45] <Bilz> GanonKiller, how
[23:45] <Bilz> everything ive seen so far is with a crom
[23:45] <Bilz> cdrom*
[23:45] <GanonKiller> Bilz: just set the source to USB
[23:45] <songer> ok melon
[23:45] <cablop> Cpt_Zyph: well, i don't know... all logs use to be on /var/log ... but you can be a looooong time there looking for... well, you can search for times anyway
[23:46] <Cpt_Zyph> humm
[23:46]  * DeaCon gets more wine
[23:46] <Bilz> GanonKiller, again, how? im new and lookin through synaptic manager
[23:46] <maheanuu_> Why would media player try to open a download folder under Meerkat
[23:46] <Cpt_Zyph> cablop sounds like i need to find a guide of some kind on google to teach me how to sift through the var logs by date or hang etc
[23:46] <Cpt_Zyph> cablop thanks very much for the help
[23:47] <maco> maheanuu_: did you open a folder with the media player and forget to uncheck the "always open with this application" box?
[23:47] <cablop> Cpt_Zyph: just search for all and sort by date in nautilus
[23:47] <GanonKiller> zombiej: here should also be samba for windows too
[23:47] <maheanuu_> Not to my knowledge...
[23:47] <cablop> Cpt_Zyph: what netbook by the way?
[23:47] <maheanuu_> How do I get to the media player command index?
[23:48] <cablop> Cpt_Zyph: i use one and use the default gnome instead of the netbook remix :P i hide the panels and it works good enough XD
[23:48] <Bilz> GanonKiller, sorry to bother but how do I do it, nothing in google
[23:48] <GanonKiller> bilz: type... sudo mount -o loop /path/to/cd-image /media/cdrom0 in terminal
[23:49] <maco2> maheanuu_: well you can reset it by right click on a folder -> open with -> file browser, and make sure that checkbox is checked
[23:49] <Cpt_Zyph> cablop well atm its one of these dell mini i use other netbooks for most my work
[23:50] <Cpt_Zyph> cablop but in the field its a bit nicer cuz it has no moving parts and is good when im walkign the hospitals and doing reports (no hdmi for fast video exporting but o well)
[23:50] <ghatak> Has anyone installed rEFit from Linux ? All the guides seem to point that it can be installed from MacOSX. Help ?
[23:50] <cablop> mmm Cpt_Zyph dunno that dell mini, ah! no movable parts? nice
[23:50] <Cpt_Zyph> cablop other wize my acers and such i use normal distro.. this thing is so tiny tho at 9" hard  to not use the tiny windows for everhting
[23:51] <Cpt_Zyph> cablop its a vostra A90 supplied by work .. or i would of picked upa  different one btu again hard to mess things up when there is nothing moving inside
[23:51] <cablop> Cpt_Zyph: check if it is enabling compiz settings by default, then use matacity as default window manager, mine supports compiz with no roblem, but maybe you don't need it
[23:51] <cablop> *metacity
[23:52] <Cpt_Zyph> humm
[23:52] <Cpt_Zyph> cablop i dont think its using that ...
[23:52] <Cpt_Zyph> cablop how to check if its loading??
[23:52] <cablop> mmm
[23:52] <GanonKiller> Bilz: make sure your cd is an active source
[23:52] <cablop> i use the compiz icon, so i just right click it and see what windowmanager is enabled
[23:54] <Cpt_Zyph> ya it has something to use a tool bar of to the left of the screen.. just exactly like the screen shots via google would show.. but i dont believe it has a windo manager runing like comp
[23:54] <Cpt_Zyph> let me see if i can find out how to view whats runing at this current run lvl
[23:54] <fiver22> any idea on how I can get my master volume;s increment jumps (when using a scroll wheel) to decrease? -right now it jumps by 4% with each wheel movement
[23:55] <GanonKiller> any of you use GPS Cards with ubuntu?
[23:55] <ronze> ciao a tutti
[23:55] <maco> !it | ronze
[23:56] <cablop> Cpt_Zyph: both metacity and compiz windows looks the same
[23:56] <meera> hi, what is best back up program for externel hd? I nstalled simple backup config and simple backup restore program
[23:56] <Bilz> GanonKiller, im getting mount point /media/cdrom0 does not exist
[23:56] <GanonKiller> hmm wierd
[23:57] <GanonKiller> Bilz: is the your cdrom an active source?
[23:57] <Bilz> GanonKiller, how do you mean? I used it yesterday to burn a cd so it works fine
[23:57] <sille777> GanonKiller - Thank you for your help... I have filed a bug report... bug#663007
[23:58] <GanonKiller> sille777: ok
[23:59] <cablop> Cpt_Zyph: those mini dell looks nice!
[23:59] <GanonKiller> Bilz: click System-Administrator-Synaptic package Manager
[23:59] <obengdako> fiver22, go to gconf
[23:59] <Bilz> yep
[23:59] <Bilz> GanonKiller, yep