[00:32] <damo22> hi there, does anyone here know how to boot a casper thing from (initramfs) prompt?
[00:33] <damo22> i am testing an installer for a distro related to ubuntu and it seems to have a bug in it
[00:34] <damo22> i have the squashfs file accessible in the installer kernel but i dont know how to tell it to boot
[11:29] <brendand> isn't raring meant to have some new icons?
[13:47] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[18:12] <BluesKaj> ok , filed a bug on launchpad, Bug #1089439
[21:23] <cmagina> i am experiencing no sound output or input from browsers (i.e. g+ hangouts video works but no audio input, pandora no output)
[21:24] <cmagina> machine was a 12.10 amd64 setup, where all those things worked, but stopped after upgrading to 13.04
[21:47] <FernandoMiguel> bugger
[21:47] <FernandoMiguel> forgot to report a bug with kernel 3.7 and my office laptop broadcom wifi blob
[21:49] <bjsnider> broadcom wifi bugs? i really thought we were past that now
[21:55] <FernandoMiguel> bjsnider: eheh
[22:45] <cmagina> fixed my above problem, but the root cause is still unknown
[22:45] <cmagina> the "fix" was to purge pulseaudio and re-install it, followed by a reboot to get everything started again
[22:46] <cmagina> the main jist of the issue was that pulseaudio wasn't coming up; start-pulseaudio-x11 would report connection refused and a ps auf  | grep pulseaudio showed nothing


[02:32]  * Obsidian1723 dinner time all....
[18:07] <_diablo> hey, is there a way in a bash script to use character that are usually brackets in part of a string? My password contains things like } which don't work well in my .conkyrc file. Can I enclose the string so it realizes that they're not supposed to be read as brackets?


[05:42] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce-announce:: ANNOUNCE: tumbler 4.17.2 released<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:58] <TheMaster> Oh hey, I meant to say but may have forgotten: I set up nagios on the dev server, not a ton of checks but some basic ones.  Hope you all don't mind, I can always revert if needed.
[22:22] <pleia2> TheMaster: I'm already monitoring it with icinga2 and could have just added you to the notification list :)
[22:22] <TheMaster> Haha, welp.  I just have the basics, https cert is valid (thus httpd is operational), systemd status is OK (no failed units), and apt updates are all good.
[22:24] <pleia2> I just do ping and some port checks (http, https, ssh), doesn't hurt to run nrpe for you though
[22:31] <TheMaster> Well, whoops.  I can revert the nrpe stuff if desired, or just change the management IPs.  Do you run announcements via IRC?
[22:40] <pleia2> nah, it's fine, I don't have anything fancy hooked up to mine
[22:42] <TheMaster> Since 2018, all new Linodes use distro kernels, kinda seems they're wanting to phase out their own.  If you feel like it, you could switch over to distro kernels?  Otherwise, it's business as usual and everything is fine there. :)
[22:43] <TheMaster> Wonder if anything besides the wiki is used much anymore..
[22:53] <pleia2> the wallpaper contest site is hosted there too, that just got a lot of use :)
[22:53] <pleia2> I'll look into the distro kernel option
[22:55] <Unit193> ..Right!


[01:19] <pleia2> flocculant: social mediaed the thing
[07:35] <flocculant> pleia2: thanks :)
[21:52] <ochosi> evening all
[21:52] <knome> hello ochosi
[21:57] <ochosi> looking into gnome-software now
[21:57] <ochosi> (when finally all updates for xenial are through)
[22:17] <ochosi> ok, so search is still flaky and all, but generally speaking i see a lot of potential in gnome-software
[22:17] <ochosi> it's very straight-forward and much more gtk-y than the sort of heavy USC
[22:18] <ochosi> plus it doesn't look broken with greybird out of the box!
[22:18] <ochosi> :)
[22:18] <ochosi> i'd probably still apply some tweaks if we decide to go with it
[22:19] <knome> yay
[22:23] <ochosi> gotta admit though that my expectations were fairly low after the initial reports i heard from others
[22:23] <knome> there will always be people that do not like $x
[22:25] <ochosi> yeah, but arguably the basic functionality (search and un/install software) has to work
[22:25] <knome> of course
[22:25] <ochosi> and it's not working 100% now
[22:25] <knome> it wouldn't be a package manager if they didn't?
[22:25] <ochosi> but yeah i presume it will work
[22:25] <ochosi> or ubuntu can't ship it anyway
[22:25] <ochosi> alrighty, time for bed
[22:25] <ochosi> night all
[22:25] <knome> yep
[22:25] <knome> okay
[22:25] <knome> good night then, ttyl


[20:59] <birnisson> ign0ramus: yep to ps with xpdf and then back with ps2pdf
[20:59] <Firestorm> Couldn't find the package lol
[20:59] <ign0ramus> Firestorm: * sudo apt-get update
[20:59] <ign0ramus> birnisson: nice.  glad it worked for you!
[20:59] <ign0ramus> birnisson: kind of a pain, but it works :)
[21:00] <Firestorm> It ran, installed really fast if that's what it was supposed to do
[21:00] <ign0ramus> Firestorm: you didn't install anything, you just updated your sources
[21:00] <ign0ramus> then try * sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.24-21-generic *
[21:01] <Firestorm> Yep, same error that it couldn't find the package
[21:01] <ign0ramus> Firestorm: do you have all your repos activated?
[21:01] <coromatic> i got aproblem wis kdesktop lock, i can't unlock it. Only when i start a new session and kill the process. Any suggestions?
[21:01] <ign0ramus> Firestorm: open up Adept Manager
[21:02] <Firestorm> It's open
[21:02] <ign0ramus> Firestorm: ok, top left.. .Adept > Manage Repositories
[21:03] <ign0ramus> Firestorm:  make sure all are checked in the first tab
[21:03] <ign0ramus> Firestorm: and the second, and the third
[21:04] <ign0ramus> Firestorm: then click "Fetch Updated"
[21:04] <ign0ramus> *updates
[21:04] <Firestorm> It updated
[21:05] <ign0ramus> Firestorm: now in the search box copy and paste this: linux-image-2.6.24-21-generic
[21:05] <ign0ramus> did it show up now?
[21:05] <Firestorm> Nothing, again
[21:05] <Firestorm> Maybe I need to reinstall
[21:05] <ign0ramus> Firestorm: not yet
[21:06] <ign0ramus> just search for "linux-image"... what's the latest (highest version number) of a generic kernel listed?
[21:06] <Firestorm> 2.6.24-16generic
[21:07] <ign0ramus> Firestorm: right-click + request install
[21:07] <ign0ramus> Firestorm: apply changes (at the top)
[21:08] <Firestorm> Downloading, crossing my fingers
[21:08] <ign0ramus> Firestorm: when you turn on your computer, does it show you your GRUB menu, or just start loading kubuntu?
[21:08] <Firestorm> GRUB since I have dual boot with Crapsta
[21:08] <Firestorm> Vista*
[21:09] <ign0ramus> Firestorm: ok, cool.  when we're done here, and you're going to boot into this generic kernel you just installed, and see if sound doesn't work for you this way
[21:09] <Firestorm> It's installed
[21:09] <ign0ramus> Firestorm: by rebooting
[21:09] <Firestorm> sudo reboot time?
[21:09] <ign0ramus> Firestorm: ok, close Adept
[21:09] <ign0ramus> Firestorm: not yet
[21:10] <Firestorm> It closed
[21:10] <ign0ramus> Firestorm: issue * sudo update-grub *
[21:10] <Firestorm> Done
[21:10] <ign0ramus> ok, now you can reboot,  -make sure to load this new generic kernel, and come back here.
[21:11] <Firestorm> Roger that, will return shortly
[21:11] <ign0ramus> k
[21:17] <Firestorm> Actually, it wouldn't boot into it, but I do have good news
[21:17] <ign0ramus> o?
[21:17] <Firestorm> I booted into the GENERIC version of my current one and everything works fine
[21:17] <ign0ramus> Firestorm: haha!
[21:17] <Firestorm> Is there a way to remove the other choices from GRUB?
[21:18] <ign0ramus> yup, same way you installed them
[21:18] <Firestorm> There's openSUSE failed install, and about 5 Ubuntu
[21:18] <ign0ramus> in Adept, search for "linux-image" and uninstall the ones you don't need
[21:18] <Firestorm> Thanks a lot guys
[21:18] <ign0ramus> BE CAREFUL TO KEEP THE ONE THAT DOES WORK
[21:18] <Firestorm> I will, I'll keep both versions
[21:18] <Firestorm> I have one more question that's probably easier to fix
[21:19] <ign0ramus> Firestorm: then run * sudo update-grub * afterwards
[21:19] <Firestorm> When I boot up, Information pops up from KdeSudo and says "No command arguments supplied! Usage: kdesudo [-u <runas>] <command> KdeSudo will now exit...
[21:20] <ign0ramus> Firestorm: that's because you had a program running with kdesu or sudo when you shut down the computer
[21:20] <Firestorm> Ohhh, all right.  Well thanks for all the help.
[21:20] <ign0ramus> np
[21:21] <ign0ramus> Firestorm: if you want to get your wireless working, come back
[21:21] <Firestorm> Now all I need to do is get my wireless going and I'll be full on Linux.       It's installing!
[21:46]  * lillium sd
[21:52] <kurumin> recife
[22:19] <Guest46713> If a new ubuntu version is released, do i have to re dl and re burn a disc, or is it possible to upgrade via the console ?
[22:20] <jussi01> !upgrade
[22:21] <coreymon77> Guest46713: this isnt windows, you can upgrade using apt
[22:21] <Jampiter> Hi
[22:21] <coreymon77> !hi | Jampiter
[22:21] <Jampiter> What's the name of the package for the screensavers
[22:22] <Jampiter> ?
[22:22] <coreymon77> cant you just search it?
[22:23] <Jampiter> In adept?
[22:23] <coreymon77> yup
[22:25] <Jampiter> Why isn't it showing most of the packages?
[22:26] <coreymon77> what do you mean by that
[22:27] <Jampiter> It shows about a tenth of what synaptic shows
[22:28] <Jampiter> Hey Ben
[22:28] <Jampiter> Synaptic > Adept
[22:29] <coreymon77> both of them suck
[22:29] <Jampiter> Although I normally just Apt-get stuff
[22:29] <coreymon77> i just stick with apt
[22:29] <coreymon77> apt-cache search
[22:29] <Jampiter> Adepts's REALLY unstable, that's my problem with it
[22:29] <Jampiter> You can search in apt-get?
[22:29] <coreymon77> command line is better than both
[22:29] <Cole_Chamber> hello ALL
[22:29] <coreymon77> anything you can do in adept you can do in apt
[22:29] <coreymon77> apt-cache search
[22:30] <cosmofield> Hi ^_^
[22:30] <Jampiter> Wait, this changes EVERYTHING!
[22:30] <Cole_Chamber> hello jampiter
[22:30] <Jampiter> Apt > Chuck Norris
[22:30] <Rioting_pacifist> aptitude search is also good, infact i usually use aptitude over apt-get as it acomidates for mistakes better
[22:30] <Jampiter> Hey Ben
[22:30] <Jampiter> Is aptitude with Kubuntu as standerd?
[22:31] <coreymon77> aptitude is also a command line thing
[22:31] <coreymon77> theres nothing to have
[22:31] <Cole_Chamber> hello jampiter
[22:31] <coreymon77> Cole_Chamber: can we help you?
[22:31] <Jampiter> Hey Eustace - how be the times?
[22:31] <Cole_Chamber> the times are well
[22:32] <Rioting_pacifist> is it possible to install ubuntu to a second partition without using a CD or a wired network?
[22:32] <coreymon77> Rioting_pacifist: and why would you need to do that exactly?
[22:33] <Rioting_pacifist> because i would like to do that, mainly because my cd drive is dodge and i only have a wireless internet connection atm
[22:33] <Rioting_pacifist> im on kubuntu atm but want to install the alpha to my spare partition
[22:33] <coreymon77> there might be, not that i know of though
[22:33] <Jampiter> Cole_Chamber: What can I do for you?
[22:34] <Rioting_pacifist> would unpacking the iso to a partion work?
[22:34] <coreymon77> Rioting_pacifist: are you a developer
[22:35] <Cole_Chamber> Jampiter: HELLO
[22:35] <Rioting_pacifist> nope, but im not doing much this week so was going to test it
[22:35] <coreymon77> Cole_Chamber: no need for the caps
[22:35] <Cole_Chamber> coreymon77: i'm sorry, im experimenting
[22:35] <Jampiter> !caps
[22:36] <coreymon77> Rioting_pacifist: linux alphas are extremely extremely unstable, so, i personally wouldnt suggest it unless you want to help develop and test it
[22:36] <Jampiter> !install Cole_Chamber
[22:36] <Jampiter> Why did this work for other people?
[22:36] <Jampiter> !install | Cole_Chamber
[22:37] <Rioting_pacifist> thats what im looking to do, im aware of the instability thats why i dont want it as my primary instalation
[22:37] <Cole_Chamber> !install | Jampiter
[22:37] <Cole_Chamber> !install | Jampiter
[22:37] <Cole_Chamber> !install | Jampiter
[22:37] <Cole_Chamber> !install | Jampiter
[22:37] <Freddy2> ..
[22:37] <coreymon77> Cole_Chamber: please do not do that
[22:37] <Cole_Chamber> sorry
[22:37] <coreymon77> Cole_Chamber: can we help you with anything
[22:37] <coreymon77> ?
[22:37] <what_if> should I install kubuntu with kde3 or the kde4 remix? Is kde 4 ready for every day use ?
[22:38] <coreymon77> what_if: depends what you want
[22:38] <Cole_Chamber> i actually have a serious question
[22:38] <Jampiter> Isn't Intrepid gonna be 4 only?
[22:38] <what_if> coreymon77: I want kde 4 but not if it is unstable
[22:38] <Jampiter> KDE4 > KDE3
[22:38] <coreymon77> what_if: cutting edge but still some bugs=kde4, absolute rock solid stability=kde 3
[22:39] <Freddy2> feature-missing=kde4
[22:39] <what_if> coreymon77: I can install kde3 and kde4 on the same system... right? just switch to kde3 if stability is a problem
[22:39] <Rioting_pacifist> what_if: last time i checkes (a while ago) the kde4 on 8.04 wasnt great, 8.10 will probably ship with alot of kde4 apps but still use kde3 to fill gaps
[22:39] <coreymon77> what_if: not if you install the remix
[22:40] <Rioting_pacifist> both use the same package manager, why cant you install kde3 from kde4?
[22:40] <coreymon77> what_if: my suggestion is to install the kde 3 one and then try kde4 from there
[22:40] <what_if> coreymon77: so... install the "regular" kde version then I can apt-get kde4 and still have kde3? If I understand correctly...
[22:40] <coreymon77> Rioting_pacifist: the remix makes it much harder to use alongside eachother
[22:40] <coreymon77> what_if: yes, for now
[22:41] <what_if> coreymon77: thank you. will do
[22:41] <Cole_Chamber> coreymon77: i used WINE to install a windows program, but i cant find it anywhere! how do i install a windows program so its useable in kubuntu?
[22:42] <coreymon77> what program?
[22:42] <Darkrift2> what_if, i tried that and it failed horribly
[22:42] <Cole_Chamber> final draft
[22:42] <what_if> Darkrift2: really? what was the problem(s) you had ?
[22:42] <Darkrift2> kde 4 died on me and then killed my kdm
[22:43] <Darkrift2> left me having to login via command line and "startx" to start kde3 after i uninstalled kde4
[22:43] <Darkrift2> now i dont mind, id rather command line login, but that wasnt the desired effet
[22:44] <Darkrift2> then all my kde apps were replaced by kde4 apps, and i cant get them to reinstall correctly and the kde4 versions dont work properly in kde3
[22:44] <what_if> Darkrift2: hmmm, that would not be fun. you installed the "normal" version of 8.04 kubuntu then installed kde4... right ?
[22:44] <Darkrift2> yes
[22:44] <Darkrift2> it worked great for a few hours
[22:44] <what_if> Darkrift2: lol
[22:44] <Darkrift2> then i chnged some settings for my taskbar etc, and it locked up, had to reboot and kdm kept failing
[22:45] <Darkrift2> so i tried to reinstall kdm after removing kde4 and it kept failing, so i just removed it from auto start
[22:45] <Darkrift2> some ppl told me not to do it, but i wanted to try it anyways, but not be limited to it
[22:46] <what_if> Darkrift2: I dont want to go through all that, lol
[22:46] <Darkrift2> id recommend you try kde4 using a live cd, then when you are ready for it, install the kde4 version of kubuntu
[22:47] <Darkrift2> also keep in mind, my issues might have been hw related (video card settings etc), so it might work great for you... just telling you MY story
[22:48] <what_if> Darkrift2: well. I am upgrading my laptop which is not strictly nessecery as I have a desktop. So I will try it
[22:48] <oddysey> i went with kde4 for a moment, but when I tried removing it, it hosed my system pretty seriously
[22:48] <Darkrift2> gl
[22:49] <oddysey> had to remove kubuntu-desktop and kdm and then reinstall
[22:49] <Cole_Chamber> any help with installing final draft, a windows program, to linux so its in a 100% useable fashion?
[22:49] <oddysey> not familiar with the program
[22:49] <Cole_Chamber> its a screenplay writing program, small time but fantastic
[22:49] <oddysey> interesting
[22:50] <oddysey> so wine isn't working as is
[22:50] <Cole_Chamber> well it works, i.e. it installs. but where is it? it says its installed to the windows partition but i cant find it there
[22:50] <oddysey> i know you can substitute actual windows dlls from a windows disk for the stuff the wine comes with
[22:51] <oddysey> sometimes wine has several c: drives per say
[22:51] <Cole_Chamber> i should probs make you aware of the fact that im a complete beginner
[22:51] <oddysey> there'll be one under /root and another under you own home directory
[22:51] <oddysey> i'm not much further ahead than you
[22:51] <jussi01> Cole_Chamber: you may also want to check out celtx http://celtx.com/overview.html
[22:51] <Cole_Chamber> well i went into the C drive through dolphin, but nothing happened
[22:51] <oddysey> sort of the blind leading the blind
[22:51] <oddysey> do this
[22:51] <oddysey> goto a konsole
[22:51] <Cole_Chamber> i tried celtx, but, as a newbie, im a little inadequate on the installation front of things
[22:52] <oddysey> and type find -name "and the name of the program"
[22:52] <oddysey> so the cmd would be something like
[22:52] <oddysey> find -name screenplay
[22:52] <oddysey> or whatever the program .exe file is
[22:52] <oddysey> make sure you run find from the root dir
[22:52] <oddysey> which means you should type cd /
[22:52] <oddysey> cd /
[22:52] <oddysey> to get to root first
[22:53] <mario> =)
[22:53] <mario> muajaj
[22:53] <DexterF> hi
[22:53] <mario> hi
[22:53] <oddysey> yo
[22:53] <mario> nice
[22:53] <mario> hemoso
[22:53] <DexterF> how do I make dpolhin and konqueror display preview images of videos?
[22:53] <mario> :P
[22:54] <oddysey> good question
[22:54] <Cole_Chamber> im new to kubuntu, a recently converted windows fiend
[22:54] <Darkrift2> someone told me how about a year ago, but it sounded like an extreme pita
[22:55] <Darkrift2> something about changing the mime type a little and editing soem configs
[22:56] <jussi01> Cole_Chamber: have you tried celtx?
[22:56] <oddysey> he said he didn't have much luck with celtx
[22:57] <oddysey> Cole_Chamber any luck with those commands i gave you
[22:57] <oddysey> ?
[22:57] <oddysey> i gotta say, i love kubuntu
[22:57] <oddysey> i was a debian addict from the start
[22:57] <Cole_Chamber> no finds :(
[22:58] <oddysey> well then it didn't install properly, or perhaps it's hidden
[22:58] <oddysey> does anyone know how to use find to find hidden files as well
[22:59] <Cole_Chamber> oddysey: didnt find anything
[23:01] <oddysey> Cole_Chamber: i think it might because it's under a hidden folder
[23:02] <oddysey> not sure though
[23:02] <oddysey> let me check something
[23:02] <oddysey> rb
[23:02] <Cole_Chamber> oddysey: i searched those too...nothing
[23:02] <oddysey> well then it seems like wine didn't do it's job after all
[23:02] <oddysey> perhaps a reinstall of wine will fix the problem
[23:02] <oddysey> do you know how to handle that?
[23:03] <Cole_Chamber> is that easy to do via apt-get?
[23:05] <JackWinter> anyone have a reccomendation for an imaging program ?  am about to do install a backport on my root partition, and might be a good idea to make a backup first :)
[23:05] <oddysey> yes
[23:05] <oddysey> it is easy
[23:06] <oddysey> CC: sudo apt-get remove wine
[23:06] <oddysey> or sudo apt-get autoremove '.*wine*.'
[23:06] <oddysey> will remove everything
[23:06] <oddysey> and then the opposite to install
[23:06] <oddysey> sudo apt-get install wine
[23:06] <oddysey> and that should take care of it
[23:07] <Cole_Chamber> ok am doin it now
[23:07] <jussi01> JackWinter: dd is very simple...
[23:07] <Cole_Chamber> done...retry install?
[23:07] <JackWinter> jussi: i've seen dd mentioned very often, but don't know how to use it.  will google for isntructions
[23:08] <oddysey> yes do the install
[23:08] <oddysey> actually
[23:08] <oddysey> you need to setup wine first
[23:08] <jussi01> JackWinter: no probs. Id help, but Im just off to bed.
[23:08] <jussi01> nini!
[23:08] <Cole_Chamber> is there a site with instructions? am off to bed now
[23:08] <oddysey> goto the menu at the bottom there is a selection of system settings
[23:08] <JackWinter> jussi01: so am i :)
[23:08] <oddysey> one is to configure wine
[23:09] <oddysey> give me your email
[23:09] <oddysey> and i'll email you one
[23:09] <Cole_Chamber><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:09] <oddysey> got it
[23:09] <oddysey> i'll get you something good, thorough, and easy to follow
[23:10] <Cole_Chamber> thanks :D
[23:10] <oddysey> don't give up on linux, ut's not that bad once you get over the learning curve
[23:10] <oddysey> welcome :)
[23:11] <Cole_Chamber> i dont intend to give up :P after a week, its kicked windows' arse many times
[23:11] <JackWinter> Cole_Chamber: if you go to winehq, there is a link to add their depositories to adept.  that way it's easy to update to the latest wine too
[23:11] <Cole_Chamber> ah cool...thanks all! am off to bed now! byee!
[23:24] <Colonel_Panic> For some reason, I'm having trouble getting Kubuntu Hardy to recognize USB devices
[23:25] <Colonel_Panic> they won't mount when I plug them in, and when I try to mount them manually it tells me they don't exist.
[23:28] <LeeJunFan> Colonel_Panic: have you checked dmesg to see if it's actually seeing them being plugged in?
[23:30] <Carla1989> Hello. It seems that the HDD has gone bad and I can not boot up my laptop. Is there a way to start up using Kubuntu?
[23:31] <di48lo> I just changed my colours in Kubuntu and now my firefox is still dark grey?
[23:31] <Carla1989> !help
[23:31] <Colonel_Panic> LeeJunFan: What should I be looking for in this output from dmesg?
[23:33] <LeeJunFan> Colonel_Panic: something similar to usb 4-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 11 - you can run this "dmesg | grep usb" to filter your results to those containing USB events.
[23:33] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: you can boot with an install CD. If your HD is dead you won't be able to boot with that no matter what OS you use.
[23:36] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: It's saying "Insert System Disk in Drive. Press any key when ready" at the boot up. So I am assuming that the HD has gone bad.
[23:37] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Does that mean I must find a working HD for my laptop first, before attempting an kubuntu installation.
[23:37] <Colonel_Panic> Hmmm... I just did ps -u root and I don't see dbusd running
[23:37] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: could be a number of things though. Check your cables, power, IDE or SATA. If you've been in your BIOS settings lately make sure those didn't get changed to disable the HD.
[23:38] <Colonel_Panic> there's something else in there, called "ksuspend_usbd". What is that?
[23:38] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: I'll check it now.
[23:38] <Colonel_Panic> Why would dbus not be running?
[23:38] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: might also be that the bootsector got corrupted and just need to re-install grub.
[23:39] <LeeJunFan> Colonel_Panic: dunno, might be worth looking in /var/log/syslog for clues on that.
[23:40] <LeeJunFan> Colonel_Panic: or try starting it now and see if it errors anywhere. sudo /etc/init.d/dbus start
[23:40] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: How do I do that? I don't have a floppy drive in my laptop so I can't possibly try booting from a recovery disk.
[23:40] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: you can use an install CD as a recovery disc
[23:41] <Colonel_Panic> * system message bus already started; not starting.
[23:41] <Colonel_Panic> weird
[23:41] <Firestorm> NOW THEN, anybody wanna help out with my wireless issue?
[23:41] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: That's awesome. I have it already with me. What's the next step..
[23:41] <LeeJunFan> Colonel_Panic: ksuspend is supposed to be there, part of kernel.
[23:42] <Colonel_Panic> LeeJunFan: What should I be looking for in /var/log/syslog ?
[23:42] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: just a sec. Lemme see if I can find a webpage to save time.
[23:43] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Sure, I understand you've other hungry people, ready to eat you up. :)
[23:43] <RiotingPacifist> i tried removing my seperate /tmp partition assuming that it would just start working as part of / instead but now i can only startx as root
[23:43] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#Backup, Repairing and Reinstalling GRUB
[23:44] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Thanks, I will have a look at it right now.
[23:44] <Colonel_Panic> want me to pastebin my fstab file?
[23:44] <LeeJunFan> RiotingPacifist: do you have /tmp still? and are it's permissions drwxrwxrwt when you ls -ld /tmp ?
[23:45] <LeeJunFan> Colonel_Panic: I wonder if dbus has a lockfile, just a sec.
[23:45] <RiotingPacifist> LeeJunFan: its now drwxr-xr-x
[23:45] <RiotingPacifist> should i chmod to 777 and then try?
[23:46] <LeeJunFan> RiotingPacifist: chmod a+rwxt /tmp
[23:46] <LeeJunFan> RiotingPacifist: I think that should do it.
[23:46] <Colonel_Panic> My syslog file: http://pastebin.ca/1202142
[23:48] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Just wanted to add that my laptop never had kubuntu installed. It had windows xp and I have not used this laptop in months and now that I wanted to use it, it's giving these errors. So I suppose, The link you gave me would still work for my case.
[23:48] <LeeJunFan> Colonel_Panic: I don't see anything useful in there, just NetworkManager trying to use dbus.
[23:48] <Colonel_Panic> My /var/log/syslog: http://pastebin.ca/1202146
[23:49] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: those are to re-install the linux bootloader. If your HD actually works then you can install kubuntu and you wont' need to worry about following those steps.
[23:49] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: Try to install and see what happens I guess, since it's a laptop there probably aren't any cables actually, so it's more likely the HD is actually dead if you can't install kubuntu to it.
[23:49] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Okie, so my objective is to re-install the linux bootloader.
[23:50] <RiotingPacifist> that worked thx LeeJunFan.
[23:50] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: if only XP was ever on that drive then there's no re-installing to do. Just try to install kubuntu as normal, if the HD works then it'll just be a normal install.
[23:50] <Rekla_je_zagrli_> what is prob ?
[23:51] <LeeJunFan> RiotingPacifist: yer welcome.
[23:51] <Colonel_Panic> any idea what could be the cause of thi?
[23:51] <skyjumper> so i changed the DPI in ~/.kde/share/config/kcmfonts but it's not applying the changes...
[23:51] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: I tried installing but before completing the setup, and after I specified the boot/swap partitions.. it gave an error and quit the setup. But at least it let me see the deaktop and work on it for a while.
[23:52] <skyjumper> how do you apply that / set DPI to something other than 96 or 120?
[23:52] <passw0rd> hi all
[23:52] <Colonel_Panic> I saw some things on the Web about a bug in Kubuntu Hardy that prevented USB devices from mounting
[23:52] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Then just now I checked the Kubuntu CD for errors, and when the test finished - it actually reported one error but it did not specify what was the error.
[23:52] <LeeJunFan> Colonel_Panic: not sure. Are you sure dbus isn't running?  try 'pidof dbus-daemon' and see if it returns any #'s.
[23:53] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Should I try burning another CD for Kubuntu Installation?
[23:53] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: yeah, I wouldn't recommend installing from a corrupt CD.
[23:53] <LImejson> install Ubuntu is better for laptop
[23:54] <LImejson> :p
[23:54] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: it's possible it's something that wouldn't matter, but it's also possible you end up either not being able to install or with a machine that wont' boot after.
[23:54] <Firestorm> How is Ubuntu better for a laptop?
[23:55] <Firestorm> Or did you mean an underpowered one maybe
[23:55] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: The ever surprising Kubuntu! While I was chatting here, the CD was in the drive and now I am on the Kubuntu Desktop! What just happened? I did not even press any button, or chosen any option.
[23:55] <Colonel_Panic> I don't see dbusd in here: http://pastebin.ca/1202153
[23:55] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Now that I am on the desktop, is there any utility that I can use to check errors on my HD?
[23:55] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: it boots to a useable desktop which runs entirely from the CD w/o using the HD. From there you can install the system to the HD.
[23:57] <LeeJunFan> Colonel_Panic: well, there is no dbusd, dbus-launch and dbus-daemon, but yeah - you have neither of those either.
[23:58] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: you could try to read from it I suppose.
[23:58] <Colonel_Panic> what can I do about this?
[23:58] <LeeJunFan> Colonel_Panic: I don't understand why dbus would say it's already running.
[23:58] <Colonel_Panic> yeah...
[23:58] <Colonel_Panic> would restarting with a new session help?
[23:58] <Carla1989> LeeJunFan: Sure, I'll try to search online if Kubuntu does provide some command to check HD errors
[23:59] <LeeJunFan> Colonel_Panic: cd /var/run/dbus and see if there's a pidfile there.
[23:59] <passw0rd> can i help me?
[23:59] <LeeJunFan> Carla1989: problem is that it had XP on it, there are ways to mount XP, but I don't think there's anything to fix NTFS filesystems.
[23:59] <Colonel_Panic> pid  system_bus_socket


[00:29] <ilo123_> wxl #nvidia fixed it for me, but I found another issue that seems more suited for this channel
[00:30] <wxl> ilo123_: good. fyi, i'm not always here (i know, it seems like it), so feel free to address everyone (or rather no one)
[00:31] <ilo123_> I went over to my second desktop, right clicked, and went to Desktop Preferences > Advanced and "use desktop as folder.....
[00:32] <ilo123_> My goal was to have just the first Desktops icons on the first monitor
[00:32] <ilo123_> but
[00:32] <ilo123_> whenever I click to undo that
[00:32] <ilo123_> like to use it as a folder again
[00:33] <ilo123_> it crashes and refreshes my desktop (i think it refreshes pcmanfm)
[00:33] <ilo123_> *restarts
[00:33] <wxl> first, double check if that does that even with only one monitor
[00:33] <ilo123_> It does
[00:33] <wxl> ah ok
[00:33] <wxl> i'd create a bug report then
[00:33] <ilo123_> no it doesnt
[00:33] <ilo123_> like
[00:33] <wxl> oh
[00:33] <wxl> nevermind XD
[00:33] <ilo123_> the first monitor
[00:33] <ilo123_> is fine
[00:34] <ilo123_> lol sorry
[00:34] <ilo123_> i have  a crash report
[00:34] <ilo123_> that popped up when i rebooted
[00:34] <ilo123_> for pcmanfm
[00:34] <wxl> what i'm saying is like disconnect the second monitor, set everything so it thinks there's only one monitor, and then try again
[00:35] <wxl> IF that happens there, too, then we have a bug anyone can reproduce
[00:35] <wxl> otherwise we have a bug that only a select group of people MIGHT be able to reproduce- those with two monitors
[00:35] <wxl> that's assuming that's it's not specifically related to the card that you have
[00:35] <wxl> or the driver that you're using
[00:35] <genii> ...or other variables...
[00:35] <wxl> right
[00:36] <wxl> but the bug report is always the first start
[00:36] <wxl> and limiting variables is always your best bet
[00:36] <ilo123_> could i give you guys the Error title?
[00:36] <wxl> i'm not sure that will be useful at this point, but feel free
[00:37] <ilo123_> nvm then
[00:37] <wxl> either way, i'd certainly call this a bug
[00:37] <wxl> and i'd encourage you to write a report
[00:37] <wxl> make sure to subscribe the lubuntu packages team
[00:38] <wxl> i'd file it against pcmanfm
[00:38] <wxl> we've got a bug day coming up so that might be a good time to attack it
[00:39] <genii> For a more usable report, you might want to install the dbg package for it also, or if not available, the ddebs repository
[00:39] <wxl> i have to go
[00:39] <wxl> i'll leave you in genii 's capable hands
[00:39] <genii> wxl: I'm out soon also :)
[00:39] <wxl> well someone will be here
[00:40] <ilo123_> im going to go,
[00:40] <wxl> 1629 < wxl:#lubuntu> usually with IRC, it's best to leave a message and wait. sometimes hours. :)
[00:46] <genii> he
[07:19] <Shawn|4650M> howdy
[07:21] <Shawn|4650M> anyone know of any programs like Guvcview?
[07:31] <Shawn|4650M> that software does not display colors from the usb camera driver it uses well on this negative scanner I have
[07:31] <Shawn|4650M> Chesse shows it well, though neither has a negative effect or filter mode
[15:18] <sodomy> Hmm.. I may have to downgrade this 1604 install to 1404.  The i915 and intel graphics drivers are unstable as hell.
[15:36] <leszek> sodomy: newer intel card ? Skylake ? Then you could remove the intel driver alltogether
[16:21] <sodomy> leszek: I honestly have no idea... it's the "Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller" according to lspci, but I have no idea more than that.
[16:22] <sodomy> I also don't think it's /just/ the intel driver - sometimes it locks up the console too.