[00:00] <brontosaurusrex> lmao
[00:00] <reisio> Sovek|Lappy: what do you like
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> !nounity | Sovek|Lappy
[00:00] <wdonkey> Sovek : you can boot on the normal gnome desktop, you have the choice when you get to the start up menu, where you enter your password
[00:00] <Sovek|Lappy> Gnome... whiche I've been using
[00:00] <miceiken> I need some help, yesterday ubuntu discovered my sd-card a while after I plugged it in, but now it doesn't discover it
[00:00] <reisio> Sovek|Lappy: shouldn't have upgraded, then
[00:00] <Sovek|Lappy> ahhhh
[00:01] <Sovek|Lappy> right, synaptic, download gnome3
[00:01] <reisio> won't help you
[00:01] <Sovek|Lappy> why's that?
[00:01] <reisio> you're already using gnome 3
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> Sovek|Lappy: gnome3 is default in Gnome based Oneiric
[00:02] <wdonkey> nah, use sudo apt-get gnome-ppp
[00:02] <wdonkey> oups
[00:02] <wdonkey> i meant sudo apt-get install gnome-ppp
[00:02] <reisio> wdonkey: ...?
[00:02] <reisio> wdonkey: who are you talking to
[00:03] <wdonkey> myself of course
[00:03] <wdonkey> who else !
[00:03] <reisio> indeed :p
[00:03] <wdonkey> air bubbles in the blood
[00:03] <reisio> right
[00:04] <wdonkey> but aint that the command line to get the gnome desktop after a 11.10 upgrade ?
[00:04] <reisio> no, gnome-ppp is like a frontend to dialup network connections or something
[00:04] <wdonkey> the old gnome desktop
[00:04] <wdonkey> ahh
[00:05] <reisio> maybe thinking of gnome-shell / gnome-tweak-tool / gnome-panel
[00:05] <reisio> still a far cry from GNOME 2, IMO
[00:05] <[snake]> Ok, I'm using irssi to chat here on irc, because I removed ubuntu, installed xubuntu, then removed xubuntu and installed kde... after I used another live cd to allow me into a shell after boot, and fixing the display settings for grub. In the shell I installed a few nvidia drivers, and when I try startx it says no drivers installed(yes I rebooted) Ubuntu 11.04
[00:06] <reisio> [snake]: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:06] <[snake]> reisio: I already did that... now nothing works
[00:07] <[snake]> reisio: is there a way to activate one of my nvidia drivers through terminal so x11 will use it
[00:07] <[fields]> reisio:  why did you suggest to try a terminal?
[00:07] <s0nee> [snake]: configure xorg.conf yet ?
[00:07] <reisio> [fields]: because there's a lot more you can do from a terminal, and your GUI wasn't working
[00:07] <[snake]> I have nvidia-current, and nvidia-173
[00:08] <s0nee> [snake]: try "nvidia-xconfig" ?
[00:08] <reisio> [snake]: yes, but... do you even have any personal data on this box?  It might be simpler to do a fresh Kubuntu install
[00:08] <[snake]> yes, my gui is non-functional
[00:08] <[snake]> nvidia-xconfig
[00:08] <[snake]> oops :P
[00:08] <[fields]> reisio:  agreed.  I can browse the external drive graphically, it still needs mounted?
[00:08] <[snake]> I'm in a terminal looking thing lol
[00:08] <[fields]> reisio:  and if so can you teach me how to mount it?
[00:08] <miceiken> I need some help, yesterday ubuntu discovered my sd-card a while after I plugged it in, but now it doesn't discover it
[00:08] <reisio> [fields]: probably already mounted if you can browse it
[00:09] <reisio> [fields]: the point of running 'mount' is to see the information it outputs
[00:09] <[fields]> reisio:  ok, so now what to cd to?
[00:09] <s0nee> [fields]: look under /media/
[00:09] <reisio> miceiken: what'd you change
[00:09] <miceiken> reisio nothin
[00:09] <miceiken> well
[00:09] <miceiken> i did a release upgrade
[00:09] <miceiken> and a apt-get autoremove
[00:10] <Wb_Lack> What Plugin can i Use with chrome or mozilla to see every images charged in the current page?
[00:10] <reisio> Wb_Lack: charged?
[00:11] <Wb_Lack> yes... Every image in the page reisio
[00:11] <berko> hi could anyone help find my "ABSOLUTE-WINDOWS-DRIVE-MOUNT-POINT"
[00:11] <reisio> Wb_Lack: you want to see them
[00:11] <[snake]> ok, that didn't work either guys.. it comes up Nvidia kernel modules and no drivers and stuff... I'd love to copy and paste code but I'm in all terminal :( where is the x config file
[00:11] <[snake]> (yes, I did the nividia xconfig thing)
[00:11] <reisio> Wb_Lack: CTRL+i, Media is fairly useful
[00:12] <Wb_Lack> reisio, what's ctrl i?
[00:12] <reisio> Wb_Lack: a keyboard shortcut
[00:12] <[snake]> where is the config file for x server?
[00:13] <Wb_Lack> reisio,  oh thanks... With mozilla..
[00:13] <s0nee> [snake]: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:13] <reisio> Wb_Lack: right
[00:13] <Wb_Lack> I i was using chrome.. Thanks...
[00:13] <Wb_Lack> I'll try...
[00:13] <wdonkey> reisio: im wondering, where shall i drag and drop the damn .gz file for this to work ? : bash: cd: ./ipad_charge_1.0: No such file or directory
[00:14] <s0nee> [snake]: did you sudo when you run nvidia-xconfig ?
[00:14] <reisio> wdonkey: for what to work
[00:14] <Stereocaulon> Having no sound anymore in Wine after upgrade to Oneiric 64 Bits. Tested with Wine 1.3.28 (current Ubuntu served version), 1.3.31 (latest version) and 1.2.4 (latest 1.2 version). I'm using HDA Intel sound chip.
[00:14] <^Mike\b> How can I tell Evolution what port to connect to for SMTP? It is trying to connect to a port the server doesn't listen on, and I cannot see a way to change it.
[00:14] <wdonkey> my damn command line
[00:14] <reisio> Stereocaulon: what version/arch were you previously using?
[00:14] <miceiken> reisio so any ideas?
[00:14] <reisio> wdonkey: ...to accomplish what?
[00:14] <reisio> miceiken: about what?
[00:14] <wdonkey> im trying to follow that : http://korenkov.info/ipad-charging-in-ubuntu
[00:14] <miceiken> reisio my sd-card issue
[00:15] <Stereocaulon> reisio, , I was on Natty 11.04 64 Bits, so no major upgrade.
[00:15] <wdonkey> to be able to charge the apple piece of junk my gf bought on my laptop
[00:15] <reisio> wdonkey: doesn't matter
[00:15] <reisio> wdonkey: someplace where you'll notice it later so you can clean it up
[00:15] <wdonkey> ok, then why it says no such file or directory ?
[00:15] <Stereocaulon> reisio, I've tried all the sensible settings in the three tested Wine versions.
[00:15] <wdonkey> WHY !
[00:16] <reisio> wdonkey: the directory will be whatever ipad_charge_1.0.tar.gz spit out
[00:16] <Wb_Lack> reisio, i solved my problem.. .Really thanks..
[00:16] <reisio> Wb_Lack: gj
[00:16] <Wb_Lack> reisio, thanks..
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> ^Mike\b: add them in the server address bits
[00:16] <Malgorath> Hi, I'm installing 11.10 on a desktop and its been at the "installing system" for a while now. is there a way to see if the system is stuck or if there is an error?
[00:16] <wabash> How do I get much better fonts for 10.10? Is there some MS font package?
[00:16] <reisio> Stereocaulon: WINEARCH=win32 ?
[00:16] <[snake]> it says that it can't load the module "nvidia"
[00:17] <wdonkey> ok
[00:17] <wdonkey> thanks
[00:17] <[fields]> reisio:  I've copied some of the files now, thanks.  But they still seem to have permissions issues.  Do I need to chgrp now?
[00:17] <Stereocaulon> reisio, I'll try, just a sec.
[00:17] <s0nee> [snake]: try "sudo Xorg -configure"
[00:18] <reisio> wabash: msttcorefonts, but I wouldn't necessarily call them better
[00:18] <wabash> Hm..
[00:18] <wabash> What are the nicest,s moothest fonts?
[00:18] <reisio> [snake]: that should already be loaded before you attempt to start X
[00:18] <reisio> wabash: most fonts are nice and smooth these days...
[00:18] <[snake]> s0nee: that came up FATAL: nividia module not found
[00:19] <reisio> [snake]: you need to sudo modprobe nvidia, and make sure it's on your auto-load list
[00:19] <yeats> !fonts | wabash
[00:19] <[snake]> reisio: my entire x11 is messed up all because I thought I could upgrade and then get kde to avoid unity
[00:19] <wabash> Hm. My Document Reader on ubuntu has really shitty fonts.
[00:19] <s0nee> [snake]: in my list of modules they are nvidiafb.ko and nvidia_current.ko
[00:19] <[snake]> modprobe huh, that's probly it..
[00:20] <wabash> reisio: any idea about this? It's the default PDF reader for ubu.
[00:20] <wabash> yeats: Than kyou.
[00:20] <[snake]> s0nee: I used nvidia-173 from mine... that is what I used before.
[00:20] <mx> i am looking for a linux dictionary application that can handle os x .dictionary files. anyone got a hit for me?!
[00:20] <s0nee> [snake]: ok, whatever works
[00:21] <reisio> wabash: how many PDFs did you try
[00:21] <brontosaurusrex> wabash, afaik fonts are usually embeded into pdfs, unles those are curves, and the same document looks wonderfull in win/mac viewers?
[00:21] <wabash> Hm. In general, it's all pdfs
[00:21] <Malgorath> Hi, I'm installing 11.10 on a desktop and its been at the "installing system" for a while now. is there a way to see if the system is stuck or if there is an error?
[00:22] <wabash> brontosaurusrex: Interesting... so you think they may be vectorized?
[00:22] <reisio> wabash: vectors are good
[00:22] <wabash> reisio: Indeed.
[00:22] <Banchie> Hrllo
[00:22] <reisio> wabash: if you can select the text they're vectors
[00:22] <wabash> reisio: Is there a font ctrl panel to change smothing?
[00:22] <Stereocaulon> reisio, no, even with WINEARCH=win32, no dice. Using WinXP as "emulated" platform
[00:22] <reisio> wabash: though PDF does support invisible digital text with only "ugly" photographic data seen
[00:22] <wabash> ok, they ar evectors.
[00:22] <wabash> reisio: These are vectors indeed.
[00:23] <reisio> Stereocaulon: weird mayne
[00:23] <wabash> reisio: Is there a way to smooth vectors?
[00:23] <brontosaurusrex> no, vectors are actually bad for screen font subsitute, for example I sudenly doesnt need antialiasing and quirks like that
[00:23] <brontosaurusrex> letter I
[00:23] <reisio> wabash: try another PDF reader to rule out a problem with that app alone
[00:23] <reisio> wabash: evince perhaps
[00:23] <Banchie> Does anyone know how to fix this: I'm totally newbie and installed Ubuntu Server as I'm about to host irssi and some webspace for friends. but the problem is.
[00:24] <gavin_> hello
[00:24] <Banchie> when I do sudo apt-get install anyprogramhere I get I'm not in sudoers file
[00:24] <Stereocaulon> reisio, I only get the default alsa fixme's Don't know what to do with x channels, pretending there's only 2 channels, but I had that as well while it was still working
[00:24] <reisio> gavin_: hi
[00:24] <gavin_> hello reisio
[00:24] <wabash> reisio: I think this is evince.
[00:24] <gavin_> reisio - are you able to help me?
[00:24] <mx> does anyone know of a linux dictionary program that can handle os x .dictionary files ?!
[00:25] <[snake]> can I have my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file regenerated from scratch?
[00:25] <gavin_> does anyone know how to update the linux ubuntu
[00:25] <reisio> Banchie: interesting
[00:25] <gavin_> ?
[00:25] <yeats> !sudo | Banchie
[00:25] <[snake]> there were a bunch of section I uncommented because I didn't like what they did to me.
[00:25] <reisio> yeats: totally useless :p
[00:25] <Banchie> but im the only used
[00:25] <s0nee> [snake]: try to get the nvidia module loaded then run "sudo Xorg -configure"
[00:25] <reisio> gavin_: from what to what?
[00:25] <yeats> reisio: eh?
[00:26] <[snake]> s0nee: oh, that's right.. I remember that one ;)
[00:26] <gavin_> just upgrade the whole ubuntu to 11.04
[00:26] <reisio> yeats: his sudo is broken, he doesn't need an education
[00:26] <reisio> gavin_: from which version
[00:26] <Banchie> how? I'm not in sudoers file
[00:26] <reisio> gavin_: oh from 11.04 to 11.10?
[00:26] <yeats> Banchie: the fixsudo link will help
[00:26] <s0nee> Banchie: you can use root instead ... but double check whatever you run
[00:26] <zykotick9> Banchie, type "groups" in a terminal, do you see "admin"?
[00:26] <gavin_> how do i find out the version for this ubuntu?
[00:27] <yeats> reisio: that isn
[00:27] <zykotick9> gavin_, "lsb_release -a"
[00:27] <yeats> 't what I was doing
[00:27] <Banchie> my user, lpadmin and adm
[00:27] <Banchie> and some other things
[00:27] <reisio> yeats: I'm sure it's not what you were _trying_ to do
[00:27] <zykotick9> Banchie, you need to be in "admin" to use sudo
[00:27] <yeats> reisio: lay off
[00:27]  * reisio shrugs
[00:27] <gavin_> my ubuntu version is 10.10 and I want to upgrade it to 11.04
[00:27] <gavin_> each time I try to upgrade my ubuntu, the computer always seem to crash
[00:27] <reisio> Banchie: did you not use this user as the admin user name during install?
[00:28] <[snake]> s0nee: "Number of created screens, does not match number of detected devices. Configuration Owned"
[00:28] <yeats> reisio: did you see the link in the factoid?  it gives instructions to fix sudo
[00:28] <reisio> gavin_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades
[00:28] <scorpio1497> faenza-icons-mono  <----what the heck is that?
[00:28] <reisio> yeats: it's a fresh install
[00:28] <[snake]> s0nee: it doesn't complain about the nvidia module anymore in the configuration
[00:28] <Banchie> reisio yes I did and I can log in with it, but not sudo
[00:29] <scorpio1497>  and why won't synaptic package manager let me unmark it for upgrade, upgrade it or remove it at all
[00:29] <s0nee> [snake]: hmm no clue. try google that error
[00:29] <yeats> reisio: obviously sudo is broken and needs fixing
[00:29] <reisio> scorpio1497: probably an icon set named faenza with monochromatic colors, or for mono
[00:29] <Banchie> and I cant seem to know admin password
[00:29] <Stereocaulon> Banchie, the admin passwd is your own password, unless you specifically changed the passwd for root
[00:30] <gavin_> I've tried upgrading it from the update manager but the whole system still crashes
[00:30] <wabash> reisio: Thank you anyhow.... I found that a monitor adjustment fixed half of it!
[00:30] <Banchie> It wasnt my own pass. But I get in as root but I dont have any dependencies to install x
[00:30] <reisio> gavin_: to a console?
[00:30] <reisio> wabash: gj
[00:30] <gavin_> what do you mean by console?
[00:30] <Archangels2> hello I have a bash script in my cron.hourly folder which runs /usr/sbin/killer, it logs me off every hour, is it a virus or a bug?
[00:30] <reisio> Banchie: you should log in as non-root to start with
[00:30] <wabash> reisio: gj?
[00:30] <reisio> gavin_: text only
[00:30] <reisio> wabash: good job
[00:30] <Stereocaulon> gavin_, console = command line, CLI
[00:30] <wabash> reisio: hahah. Thank you.
[00:30] <Banchie> but how do I add my own account to sudoers list
[00:31] <gavin_> reisio - how do I upgrade it from a terminal?
[00:31] <reisio> Archangels2: sudo apt-get install apt-file && apt-file search killer
[00:31] <reisio> gavin_: it says at the link I gave you
[00:31] <reisio> Banchie: it should be there by default
[00:31] <s0nee> Banchie: http://albertskblog.blogspot.com/2008/11/add-user-in-sudoer-list.html
[00:32] <reisio> Archangels2: nothing I recognize, personally
[00:32] <Banchie> reisio but it isn't. I tried already
[00:32] <gavin_> ah ok
[00:32] <reisio> Banchie: right, so you can fix it and assume nothing else is broken, or you can try installing again
[00:32] <zykotick9> Banchie, add your account name to the admin group (not sure how you're going to do that though)
[00:32] <reisio> Banchie: what install image did you use?
[00:32] <Stereocaulon> gavin_, just try this: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:33] <Archangels2> reisio: I did that, says already newest version, installed libgladeui...
[00:33] <Banchie> Ubuntu 10.04 LTS ServerEdition
[00:33] <Banchie> only I had on my bookself
[00:33] <Banchie> ordered from ubuntu
[00:33] <Archangels2> do you think it's safe to get rid of?
[00:33] <zykotick9> gavin_, Stereocaulon's suggestion will NOT update to new release!
[00:33] <yeats> Banchie: reboot into recovery mode and drop to a root shell
[00:33] <[snake]> s0nee: should I do-release-upgrade to 11.10 and hope that it fixes? I feel hopeless :(
[00:33] <reisio> Archangels2: it says killer is from libgladeui?
[00:34] <gavin_> zykotick9: What type of command line will upgrade to the newer version?
[00:34] <yeats> Banchie: then do 'usermod -G admin <yourusername>'
[00:34] <zykotick9> gavin_, ?
[00:34] <Stereocaulon> zykotick9, oh, has that been changed? Since when?
[00:34] <urist_> hello, I was wondering what the best way to share media from my Linux to my PS3 is
[00:34] <zykotick9> Stereocaulon, no, that's never been the command
[00:34] <Banchie> group admin doesnt exist
[00:34] <Banchie> lol
[00:35] <urist_> I've tried MediaTomb and tbh it was a bit buggy or something, it's just not working out for me...
[00:35] <gavin_> zykotick9: each time I try upgrading it, my whole system continuously  crashes
[00:35] <Archangels2> reisio: not explicitly, I don't completely understand the command you had me execute
[00:35] <s0nee> [snake]: hmm 11.10 MAY bring some more errors ... its up to you
[00:35] <reisio> urist_: something else that does DLNA, then
[00:35] <zykotick9> gavin_, i'm not surprised - i "personally" think upgrading Ubuntu to new releases is a terrible idea.  Good luck.
[00:35] <reisio> Archangels2: sudo apt-get install apt-file, install apt-file
[00:35] <urist_> reisio, do you have any specific suggestions?
[00:35] <gavin_> zykotick9: why is it a bad idea?
[00:35] <reisio> Archangels2: apt-file search killer, query what packages if any might have files named 'killer' that they install
[00:36] <zykotick9> gavin_, too many problems
[00:36] <reisio> urist_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_UPnP_AV_media_servers
[00:36] <miceiken> I need some help, yesterday ubuntu discovered my sd-card a while after I plugged it in, but now it doesn't discover it ( I did a do-release-upgrade and a apt-get autoremove )
[00:36] <urist_> reisio, thanks.
[00:36] <Archangels2> reisio: it actually says that libgladeui was automatically installed and no longer required
[00:36] <gavin_> zykotick9: Why does the application continuously popping up asking me to upgrade to a newer version?
[00:36] <zykotick9> gavin_, do-release-upgrade - that's the command in cli to upgrade your system.  Thanks miceiken ;)
[00:36] <[snake]> *sigh... ubuntu, what has happened... I feel better off using gentoo now :(
[00:37] <Banchie> hmm
[00:37] <zykotick9> gavin_, oh you're suppose to upgrade!
[00:37] <miceiken> lol zykotick9, and im back today with the same issue
[00:37] <s0nee> Banchie: run "su" to switch to root, then run "visudo"
[00:37] <[snake]> maybe I'm exadgerating a little but oh well
[00:37] <reisio> Archangels2: that sounds like at most an informative message that's been waiting for you to run apt-get to be given
[00:37] <Stereocaulon> miceiken, thanks for updating my cli knowledge on system upgrades in ubuntu
[00:38] <gavin_> zykotick9: I know I'm supposed to upgrade but each time I do, it crashes the system but I think I'm upgrading it now through command line
[00:38] <miceiken> No worries, although I'm a noob myself
[00:38] <zykotick9> gavin_, hope it works out for ya :)
[00:38] <gavin_> zykotick9: thanks and what if it doesn't work?
[00:39] <Stereocaulon> miceiken, you should give yourself a little more credit. I've been running Linux since 1997 now.
[00:39] <zykotick9> gavin_, what if... is impossible to answer
[00:39] <Banchie> s0nee thanks, gotta read manual
[00:39] <Archangels2> reisio: /usr/sbin/killer is supposed to kill processes belonging to users no longer logged in if that helps
[00:39] <miceiken> Stereocaulon, haha, it showed up when i for once logged in as root today
[00:39] <reisio> I've been running it since 1990
[00:39] <miceiken> I've been running it since... 2008
[00:39] <reisio> Archangels2: if you say so
[00:39] <gavin_> zykotick9: the system is trying to upgrade but nothing happening
[00:39] <s0nee> Banchie: ok. google "add user to sudoer". that will resolve your problem
[00:39] <Archangels2> reisio: only it seems to be killing my processes while I'm still logged in
[00:40] <Banchie> Thank you
[00:40] <Stereocaulon> reisio, Hmm? I thought that the first Linux release was in 1991?
[00:40] <crescendo> Brand new box, dual AMD Radeon 6900s, three identical displays.  Use driver available through "Additional Drivers", and if so, "post release updates" or the main one, -- or do I download the Linux driver from their site?
[00:40] <zykotick9> gavin_, don't direct your issues to me - as i said, i think it's a horrible idea...
[00:40] <Banchie> I'll be back when I need to add domain to my box
[00:40] <Stereocaulon> !linux
[00:40] <gogeta> Stereocaulon: unix was around in the 80s i beleve the first desktop linux was 1993
[00:41] <reisio> Stereocaulon: that's what makes it an obvious joke
[00:41] <gavin_> ok
[00:41] <zykotick9> gogeta, lol - "unix" was around in the 70s
[00:41] <yeats> !
[00:41] <nocturnal_> people we have a problem here
[00:41] <Stereocaulon> reisio, sorry for spoiling it ;-)
[00:41] <nocturnal_> everyone in #ubuntu-offtopic died
[00:41] <reisio> Stereocaulon: you can't spoil a joke :p
[00:41] <Stereocaulon> nocturnal_, must be Halloween, I guess ;-)
[00:42] <gavin_> #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:42] <Seanmc98> reisio, hello again
[00:42] <s0nee> nocturnal_: they have not turned into zombies like us
[00:42] <Archangels2> reisio: usr/sbin/killer seems to be legit, it's the bash script cron.hourly/killer that's causing problems, how can I check to see where that's from?
[00:43] <reisio> Archangels2: was probably auto-configured when killer was installed
[00:43] <reisio> Archangels2: sudo crontab -e
[00:43] <gogeta> lol
[00:44] <Alperen> how can i assign "eject /dev/cdrom" to my eject key on my laptop's keyboard?
[00:44] <Archangels2> reisio: 'no crontab for root...' and I have a choice of 5 editors
[00:44] <reisio> Alperen: Ubuntu version?
[00:44] <reisio> Archangels2: lovely
[00:45] <reisio> Archangels2: what package is killer from
[00:45] <Alperen> reisio, 11.10
[00:45] <s0nee> Alperen: assign a custom shortcut ... dont know if it will recognize the key
[00:45] <Archangels2> reisio: I don't know
[00:45] <reisio> Alperen: do you know how to assign keyboard shortcuts?
[00:45] <gogeta> Alperen: you can bind a key to a command i just forgot the app name heh
[00:45] <Archangels2> reisio: the bash script or the one in sbin
[00:45] <Alperen> s0nee, xbindkeys cant detect the key but ubuntu shows the eject icon but nothing happens
[00:45] <gogeta> or type eject in the term
[00:45] <reisio> Archangels2: then what makes you think it's legit...
[00:46] <reisio> Alperen: System Settings > Keyboard > Custom Shortcuts
[00:46] <gogeta> sudo eject
[00:46] <Alperen> reisio, let me try
[00:46] <Guest98747> this is to fast for me too old i guss
[00:46] <gogeta> if its mounted it wont eject
[00:46] <gogeta> unmount first
[00:46] <Archangels2> reisio: It's very well documented...
[00:46] <reisio> Archangels2: where?
[00:47] <yeats> !info killer | reisio
[00:47] <Archangels2> reisio: in the file itself, I think it had further information which I could check, I'll do that and then get back to you
[00:48] <Guest98747> bye
[00:48] <reisio> Archangels2: dpkg -L killer, look for the script you're talking about
[00:50] <kristianpaul> Hello,
[00:50] <reisio> hi
[00:50] <miceiken> so
[00:50] <miceiken> im just gonna keep askin
[00:50] <miceiken> I need some help, yesterday ubuntu discovered my sd-card a while after I plugged it in, but now it doesn't discover it ( I did a do-release-upgrade and a apt-get autoremove )
[00:50] <kristianpaul> There is a easy way to get a ubuntu installed on a sokris box to work as router/acess point an lamp?
[00:50] <Stereocaulon> Alperen, try sudo umount /dev/cdrom0 & eject
[00:50] <s0nee> Stereocaulon: Alperen use &&, not &
[00:51] <reisio> just 'eject' should suffice, or 'eject -T'
[00:51] <Archangels2> reisio: it gives me the locations of a number of files, the bash script I was referring to, as I said before is in etc/cron.hourly/killer
[00:51] <Stereocaulon> s0nee, I must be getting tired... ;-)
[00:51] <Alperen> Stereocaulon, eject works fine
[00:51] <miceiken> Stereocaulon will that make the cddrive pop out lol
[00:51] <Stereocaulon> Alperen, s0nee is right, sorry about the confusion
[00:51] <reisio> Archangels2: I forgot what you wanted to accomplish
[00:52] <Alperen> Stereocaulon, umount: /dev/cdrom0: not found
[00:52] <Alperen> Stereocaulon, umount: /dev/cdrom: not mounted
[00:52] <Malgorath> sorry I d/c'd on my laptop. still looking for help with this install, I'm installing ubuntu 11.10 along side (sep partition) with winows 7 and it keeps hanging on part saying installing system. is there anything i can do to find out whats wrong
[00:53] <Archangels2> reisio: lol, the bash script keeps logging me off every hour, I don't know if it's malware or if it's just a bug
[00:53] <miceiken> is there anyway to uneject
[00:53] <Stereocaulon> Alperen, try eject -d to see the default device name on your mac
[00:53] <Archangels2> reisio: oh I'm sorry, am I not supposed to say lol here?
[00:53] <Alperen> Stereocaulon, lol it works now
[00:53] <reisio> Alperen: thought you said just 'eject' works?
[00:53] <Alperen> reisio, it works
[00:53] <reisio> the only reason you'd need to umount is if you'd already manually ran 'mount'
[00:53] <Stereocaulon> reisio, Alperen good point :-)
[00:53] <helo> anyone successfully watch netflix in linux using the netflix app in chome 15?
[00:54] <helo> *chrome
[00:54] <reisio> I guess there's still a use for it
[00:54] <reisio> but you should at least make it sudo umount whatever; eject
[00:54] <reisio> instead of &&
[00:54] <Malgorath> lol nvm, it just finished
[00:54] <reisio> Malgorath: twss
[00:54] <Alperen> Stereocaulon,  reisio, i deleted the key in gnome shortcuts then assign the eject key again it works now
[00:54] <helo> my netflix account isn't active right now, but a friend of mine has been asking me about netflix in linux for a long time
[00:55] <Stereocaulon> Alperen, glad that it worked without custom hacks
[00:55] <seanmc98> what is a good hex editor?
[00:56] <Alperen> Stereocaulon, thanks :)
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> !find hex
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> !info ghex
[00:56] <linus> With 11.10 how do I access the gnome-panel menu?
[00:56] <helo> i see there is a netflix app available via chrome, but i wanted to make sure someone has actually used it to watch videos...
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> helo: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/native-netflix-client-coming-linux-in-12-months/
[00:57] <reisio> helo: chrome OS?
[00:57] <Stereocaulon> Alperen, np
[00:58] <KiwiK> Hello whats going on?
[00:58] <_r00t_> Hello Kiwi
[00:58] <reisio> KiwiK: Unix just took over skynet
[00:58] <KiwiK> alright
[00:58] <linus> Ive tried right clicking, atl right click and a bunch of other combinations, how do I open the gnome-panel menu?
[00:59] <Stereocaulon> linus, what distro are you using?
[00:59] <miceiken> I need some help, yesterday ubuntu discovered my sd-card a while after I plugged it in, but now it doesn't discover it ( I did a do-release-upgrade and a apt-get autoremove )
[00:59] <linus> @stereocaulon 11.10
[00:59] <_r00t_> linus admit it .... you forgot to make dep
[00:59] <Stereocaulon> linus, are you using Unity, or Gnome?
[01:00] <linus> @_r00t_ what do you mean?
[01:00] <kristianpaul> !soekris
[01:00] <KiwiK> lunis are u using unity or smthn like lxde
[01:00] <zykotick9> linus, do you have a menu on the left side?
[01:00] <_r00t_> @linus it's a linux joke :/
[01:00] <conntrack> can't even handle a few channels lol!
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> Stereocaulon: unity runs on gnome desktop by default
[01:00] <LaserJock> anybody have problems with the totem firefox plugin not playing files?
[01:00] <linus> @Stereocaulon, Im using gnome otherwise I wouldnt have gnome-panel\
[01:01] <_r00t_> @linus are you trying to add an applet ?
[01:01] <linus> gnome-panel is considered the fallback for gnome3
[01:01] <linus> yes Id like to add applets
[01:01] <Miggs> Hey guys - I've just installed 11.10 on my XPS m1330 laptop. I've installed the nvidia driving but I'm finding that rendering the desktop is laggy and unreliable. Any hints on where to look in 11.10? Worked better in 11.04.
[01:01] <_r00t_> @linus what version of gnome are you using mate ?
[01:02] <linus> gnome3 the 11.10 release
[01:02] <KiwiK> i guess he's using gonme 3 right?
[01:02] <KiwiK> oh well :D
[01:02] <linus> from the gnome3 website
[01:02] <Stereocaulon> linus, the gnome3 DE is not supported yet afaik
[01:02] <linus> DE?
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> Miggs: which nvidia chip do you have?
[01:03] <Stereocaulon> linus, Desktop Environment
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> Stereocaulon: its the default DE in Oneiric
[01:03] <_r00t_> guess @Stereocalon is right
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> well, gnome based oneiric
[01:03] <Miggs> 8400m. It's not exactly the  most modern laptop but it is a 2.4GHz C2D so it's not pokey.
[01:03] <linus> if by DE you mean Desktop Edition you are both right
[01:03] <Miggs> And like I said - worked find in 11.04.
[01:03] <KiwiK> Well i have Lxde it's pretty nice :D i recommend it to you
[01:04] <linus> gnome3 comes installed but the default session uses unity
[01:04] <Stereocaulon> ActionParsnip, true, but with unity as shell, not the vanilla gnome3 shell
[01:04] <_r00t_> @Miggs are you sure you're using the Nvidia driver ? lsmod should tell you
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> Miggs: better than I got, what is the output of: dpkg -l | grep nvidia     please, use a pastebin to host
[01:04] <Archangels2> hello, every hour, on the 17th minute, I'm kicked out of my account.  I've tracked the problem to a package named killer.  Does anyone feel up to the challenge of figuring this out before I'm booted out in 13 minutes?
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> Stereocaulon: it still uses gnome3, the session is just different
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> Archangels2: is there a cron'd job/
[01:04] <Guiri> I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 11.10 on an iMac7,1.  Specifically, when I hold Alt to boot the cdrom it says disk image not found. "Error:  need to load kernel first:
[01:05] <Guiri> Has anyone encountered this?
[01:05] <reisio> Archangels2: never heard of this app in all my years, just uninstall it
[01:05] <Archangels2> ActionParsnip: ok, I'll get rid of it thanks
[01:05] <KiwiK> why do u got it?
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> Guiri: did you MD6 test the ISO/
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> MD5*
[01:05] <linus> Im using gnome-panel which is the fallback to gnome-shell as aposed to unity2d the fallback to unity
[01:05] <Miggs> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/5sdpR0jk
[01:06] <linus> Still editable, but not by accident: this all sounds cool, but you tried to add an applet, or to even just move one, but without success? There's a secret trick here: press alt (or the modifier configured for metacity, if you changed it) and right-click. And here you go, you can do everything again!
[01:06] <_r00t_> @Miggs lsmod please
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> Miggs: try:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:07] <linus> this is from the gnome3 website, i can use metacity or unity window decorations. does anyone know the appropriate button for either
[01:07] <Stereocaulon> ActionParsnip, ah, well, that's a bit confusing. I'm rather new to unity or to Oneiric for that matter. I was happily on my way using Natty 11.04 using the gnome2 desktop, upgraded to Oneiric and found the Gnome fallback option too bare to work with, so I stuck with Unity for now. Having mixed feelings about it.
[01:07] <Miggs> _r00t_: http://pastebin.com/1E9eVDnC
[01:07] <Guiri> ActionParsnip: Yeah, 62fb5d750c30a27a26d01c5f3d8df459
[01:07] <Miggs> ActionParsnip: Will do that now
[01:07] <Benkinooby> hi, how can i reinstall/reset my gtk themes (ubuntu 10.04)? i messed with them and some of them are ugly by now... what packages are to be worked on?
[01:07] <Archangels2> reisio: I just opened up synaptic, found killer, but it won't let me uninstall it
[01:07] <reisio> Archangels2: classy
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> Stereocaulon: there are more desktops than Gnome, maybe one of the others are more to your tastes
[01:08] <_Techie_> is there any to stip down ubuntu to an extremely basic install, no GUI etc.   using apt-get?
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> Guiri: and does that match the MD5 sum on the ubuntu site?
[01:08] <Guiri> yes
[01:08] <Guiri> for the amd64 desktop
[01:08] <reisio> _Techie_: probably if you use one of these commands without the && sudo apt-get install at the end: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[01:08] <Archangels2> reisio: I love that response I really do, but it tells me nothing
[01:08] <_r00t_> Miggs good luck
[01:08] <reisio> Archangels2: try from a termain: sudo apt-get remove killer
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> Guiri: sweet and are you using CD or USB?
[01:09] <Guiri> cdrom
[01:09] <Stereocaulon> ActionParsnip, I like lxde as well, but I'm rather attached to some kind of app menu, so that didn't cut it. Anyway, I'm trying to adapt to Unity right know, but it's not a smooth road...
[01:09] <Miggs> _r00t_: Nothing stands out to you as being wrong?
[01:09] <reisio> Archangels2: a terminal*
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> Stereocaulon: try a few, one will feel great. XFCE is a lot like Gnome2
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> Guiri: did you burn the CD as slowly as possible?
[01:10] <linus> ok I found my problem was with compiz, I did metacity --replace and I was able to edit gnome-panel. now just run unity --replace when im done
[01:11] <Archangels2> reisio: 'Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)' then asks if another process is using it 6 minutes till I'm booted
[01:11] <Guiri> ActionParsnip: Are we certain it's an image error and not an outstanding grub problem here?  I've used this cd to install to a few computers but this is the first iMac, with the EFI and such
[01:11] <_r00t_> Miggs nope ... try the upgrade see if you get new drivers ... Otherwise it's a painful xorg.conf journey
[01:11] <Miggs> Oh dear.
[01:12] <Archangels2> reisio: no pressure though, just letting you know that If I leave unexpectedly...
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> Guiri: not sure of those dude, burning bootable CDs as slow as possible helps in some cases
[01:12] <Guiri> k
[01:12] <reisio> Archangels2: you have to close synaptic first
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> Archangels2: is software centre running or are updates installing?
[01:12] <Stereocaulon> ActionParsnip, I know, I have tried it, but the version that I can install from the Software manager did not come with a usable menu. Ah, well,  Unity also has it's merits I suppose. Can't hurt to try it out in earnest. I still have a 11.04 in my Grub when I need to get things done fast, without having to troubleshoot the many bugs I 've encountered in Oneiric thus far.
[01:12] <Archangels2> reisio: nope
[01:13] <Miggs> ActionParsnip: Got a new nvidia-current. I'll reboot and give that a try
[01:13] <reisio> Archangels2: I didn't ask you a question
[01:13] <_r00t_> Miggs good luck :)
[01:13] <Miggs> Cheers
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> Stereocaulon: you can install the fallback session and use that. I haven't used gnome is a long while
[01:13] <Archangels2> reisio: oh right that was parsnip
[01:14] <Archangels2> actionparsnip: nope
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | Archangels2
[01:14] <Stereocaulon> ActionParsnip, no, the fallback is much too bare for my taste and I don't mean graphically
[01:15] <Archangels2> actionparsnip: I closed synaptic and it works just fine
[01:15] <linus> you dont need to install the gnomef fallback session. it is automatically installed with defualt install
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> Archangels2: good enough, same difference :)
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-session-fallback
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> It's optional though....
[01:16] <Archangels2> reisio: looks like I need to restart before changes take effect, brb
[01:16] <Stereocaulon> wine doesn't have sound anymore after the 11.04 => 11.10 upgrade. I tried three versions: 1.2.4, 1.3.28 and 1.3.31. Using Intel HDA chip on Ubuntu 11.10 64bits.
[01:17] <miceiken> zykotick9, last night
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> Stereocaulon: what about as a different (or new) user
[01:17] <miceiken> do you remember what i did?
[01:18] <Stereocaulon> ActionParsnip, you mean to have a fresh Wine Prefix? Already tried that using wibom
[01:18] <Centigonal> In case Yanom hasn't come in here and shown you this piece of awesome yet: http://i44.tinypic.com/1ovhy1.jpg
[01:19] <_r00t_> how do I see notes created on ubuntu one ?
[01:19] <_Techie_> is there a way to have ubuntu remove a list of packages using apt-get purge when one/some of the listed packages are not installed
[01:19] <Stereocaulon> ActionParsnip, I can't see any advantages to use a new user in stead of a new wine prefix, can you?
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> Stereocaulon: as long as you get a fresh ~/.wine folder
[01:21] <_r00t_> anyone here a unbuntu one whiz ?
[01:21] <Stereocaulon> ActionParsnip, a new Wine Prefix should accomplish just that, don't you agree?
[01:21] <Stereocaulon> _r00t_, nope, wouldn't touch Ubuntu one with a barge pole.
[01:23] <_r00t_> lol @Stereocaulon ... I'm just playing with it ... 5gig sounds better than the 2gig dropbox - also it's supposed to be android compatible too ?!
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> Stereocaulon: if that's what would make a new folder, then yes
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> Stereocaulon: could ask in #winehq too
[01:24] <Stereocaulon> _r00t_, that's need. Call me old fashioned, but I don't trust my personal files to the cloud, even when they are encrypted.
[01:24] <randomusr> I'm thinking about downloading 11.04 or 11.10 for my desktop. Not a fan of the sidebar. Is there some way to disable it and maybe use something less frustrating?
[01:24] <Stereocaulon> _r00t_, need => neat
[01:24] <crescendo> Brand new box, dual AMD Radeon 6900s, three identical displays.  Use driver available through "Additional Drivers", and if so, "post release updates" or the main one, -- or do I download the Linux driver from their site?
[01:24] <haylo_> randomusr install a different desktop
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> !nounity | randomusr
[01:24] <jrib> !nounity | randomusr
[01:25] <_r00t_> Stereocaulon : Yeah I hear you. I'm an old timer but have succumbed to the cloud :(
[01:25] <Benkinooby> can anyone tell my why gnome-mplayer and vlc have problems to stream a webradio when i use my wireless headphone (i am not surprised by that - they use the same frequency) but mplayer from command line makes no troubles?
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> randomusr: or as haylo_ said, install Xubuntu or Kubuntu or Lubuntu and you won't be hastled
[01:25] <Benkinooby> my -> me
[01:26] <Archangels2> reisio: and I'm back
[01:26] <reisio> wb
[01:26] <_r00t_> randomusr : If you want 11.04 - Then you want pinguy OS ... It's a seriously awesome Ubuntu remix
[01:27] <Benkinooby> randomusr, if you like eyecandy, kubuntu (using kde) will be for you... Xubuntu (using xfce) remind a lot to gnome2, Lubuntu (using lxde) is even slimer than xfce
[01:27]  * _r00t_ pushes Benkinooby
[01:27] <Archangels2> reisio: the bash script is still in my cron.hourly
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> lxde is the daddy :)
[01:27] <_r00t_> don't listen to him mate.... he'll be offering you fluxbox next
[01:27] <_r00t_> LOL guys
[01:28] <randomusr> Guess I just don't like the sidebar in unity... Meh
[01:28] <fxhp> gnome 3 moved to sidebar too
[01:28] <randomusr> I may try fallback mode as suggested or just download 10.10
[01:28] <haylo_> yes just install openbox- it is an elegant desktop
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[01:28] <Benkinooby> _r00t_, haha, you're right, i wanted to point out fluxbox
[01:28] <Benkinooby> that's what i use
[01:29] <haylo_> nice to take you ubuntu to openbox then install tint2 sidebar
[01:29] <_r00t_> heh Benkinooby ... I'm a longtime fluxbox user :)
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> randomusr: Natty has the classic desktop too
[01:29] <crescendo> Brand new box, dual AMD Radeon 6900s, three identical displays.  Use driver available through "Additional Drivers", and if so, "post release updates" or the main one, -- or do I download the Linux driver from their site?
[01:30] <Stereocaulon> crescendo, stick with the driver version supplied by Ubuntu
[01:30] <_r00t_> crescendo : No mate, you want windows. That card is too rich for us poor ubunters
[01:30] <Archangels2> None of my sound related applications have been working since I upgraded to 11
[01:30] <randomusr> Any recommendation for the largest linux game repository?
[01:31] <Archangels2> *.10
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> randomusr: playonlinux probably
[01:31] <Benkinooby> _r00t_, pinguy uses gnome2?
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> randomusr: sorry, playdeb
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> pinguy is offtopic and not supported here
[01:31] <cekay> hola,ayuda con gnome mplayer me sale esto :error al abrir VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.
[01:32] <Stereocaulon> !es| cekay
[01:32] <_r00t_> Benkinooby : Yes, but it's done beautifully ... even has a mint menu if you want it
[01:32] <Benkinooby> _r00t_, ah, ok...
[01:32]  * Benkinooby is happy with fluxbox + kupfer ... menues are overevlauted
[01:32] <Benkinooby> over evaluated
[01:32] <Miggs> ActionParsnip: No dice. Still laggy rendering and poor response times.
[01:32] <crescendo> Stereocaulon, and there's two listed; I've installed the one without "post-release updates"
[01:32] <Stereocaulon> Benkinooby, as are spelling checkers, right?
[01:33] <Archangels2> (Let my try saying that again) None of my sound related applications have worked since upgrading to 11.10, does anyone know how I can fix this?
[01:33] <crescendo> (the one with failed to install. :()
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> Miggs: do you use hybrid graphics?
[01:33] <_r00t_> Ahhh shucks Miggs ... What driver version are you using ? Is should say in dmesg
[01:33] <Virus_jpg> Hey everyone. For those intersted in Linux broadcasting your desktop, I have a Linux system running at Blogtv.people/analyzingfunny. great program. Webcamstudio
[01:34] <haylo_> um ok
[01:34] <Benkinooby> Stereocaulon, wat is a spelcheker?
[01:34] <Stereocaulon> crescendo, in that case, you might try the other option. Having a rather uncommon screen setup might benefit from the latest advances
[01:34] <Benkinooby> :P
[01:34] <Virus_jpg> And I have this very chatroom superimposed using the IRC feature
[01:34] <cekay> hola,ayuda con gnome mplayer me sale esto :error al abrir VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.
[01:35] <Miggs> _r00t_: 285.05.09
[01:35] <Stereocaulon> Benkinooby, a Spall-Tchecker is something that prevents this <=
[01:35] <Miggs> _r00t_: I'm going to assume the problem is Unity since I'm not loving that anyway and hope that replacing that fixes everything.
[01:36] <haylo_> yeah just customize your ubuntu
[01:36] <Benkinooby> Stereocaulon, wats wrong wis this?
[01:37] <Spall-Tchecker> :P
[01:37] <haylo_> spellchecker checks spellin
[01:37] <Stereocaulon> Benkinooby, dont no, mite bi too Offtopic...
[01:37] <_r00t_> what IRC client are you guys using ? This xchat really sux
[01:37] <|||||||||> IRC rocks
[01:37] <Silent_Samurai> _r00t_, Don't you dare.
[01:37] <|||||||||> Chat
[01:37] <Stereocaulon> _r00t_, I use Xchat and I'm quite happy with it.
[01:37] <Silent_Samurai> ^
[01:38] <haylo_> i am on xchat it is wonderful
[01:38] <|||||||||> I have my xchat painted all green and black
[01:38] <_r00t_> yeah IRC was rocking in 1993 LOL .... sorry guys just getting used to this
[01:38] <Spall-Tchecker> Stereocaulon, gut ting i am me own spellchecka... nau enough of tat.
[01:38] <Spall-Tchecker> xcaht  +1
[01:38] <robin0800_> _r00t_, whats wrong with it?
[01:38] <Spall-Tchecker> xchat  +1
[01:38] <_r00t_> .... it's been a very LONG time !
[01:38] <Archangels2> xchat works just great for me, now if only audacity worked
[01:38] <Technicus> Hello . . . what does it take to get conky and compiz wallpaper to cooperate with eachother?
[01:38] <gavin_> d
[01:38] <haylo_> i think you want ircci? is that the righ name guys its all terminal based?
[01:39] <Spall-Tchecker> Technicus, what's the problem?
[01:39] <somsip>  haylo_ irssi ?
[01:39] <_r00t_> lol haylo_ : irssi - The time before torrents
[01:39] <_r00t_> nope I don't want to go there again ;)
[01:39] <Stereocaulon> |||||||||, did you install the plugin that emulates the fading phosphors as well?
[01:40] <enchilado> Irssi is beautiful
[01:40] <haylo_> then use that quassel in the kubuntu package
[01:40] <Technicus> Spall-Tchecker: With Conpiz Wallpaper plugin active (which requires configuring Nautilus to not draw the desktop) and Conky running the desktop clips.
[01:40] <Benkinooby> bye
[01:40] <Stereocaulon> enchilado, I might not be leet enough to use it ;-)
[01:40] <_r00t_> ok I don't like to type in user names .... can't xchat tab complete for me :)
[01:40] <_r00t_> OHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhh
[01:41] <Benkinooby> _r00t_, xchat can
[01:41] <Stereocaulon> _r00t_, Tab complete works great here
[01:41]  * _r00t_ looks like a dummy it can
[01:41] <enchilado> Stereocaulon: I'm not leet at all. It's just a nice client.
[01:41] <Benkinooby> Technicus, desktop clips?
[01:41] <_r00t_> ok xchat rox
[01:41] <Benkinooby> Technicus, maybe you go the the conky irc channel.. i know there is one
[01:42] <robin0800_> Technicus, you dont have to stop nautilus controlling the desktop
[01:42] <Benkinooby> Technicus, sorry, have to go now.. good luck
[01:42] <Stereocaulon> Funny that if a Windows user wants to install XChat he/ she has to pay a license fee >:-)
[01:42] <Archangels2> I hope I'm not being rude or ignorant by repeating my question, but does anyone know why all my audio related applications stopped working after I upgraded to 11.10?
[01:42] <crescendo> Stereocaulon, silverex.org
[01:43] <MrBIOS> hey folks
[01:43] <_r00t_> hey MrBIOS
[01:43] <MrBIOS> is there a UDS-centric IRC channel?
[01:43] <TheEvilPhoenix> Stereocaulon:  actually the WDK version is free
[01:43] <Stereocaulon> crescendo, yes...
[01:43] <Archangels2> hello MrBIOS
[01:43] <TheEvilPhoenix> Stereocaulon:  its their developmental version and its up to date with the free Linux one
[01:43] <TheEvilPhoenix> Stereocaulon:  google "XChat WDK"
[01:43] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[01:43] <seanmc98> can anyone help with this http://pastebin.com/7Zz8ZJ0N
[01:43] <TheEvilPhoenix> oh, and...
[01:44] <TheEvilPhoenix> !offtopic > Stereocaulon
[01:44] <_r00t_> seanbright, Paying for wifi should help :)
[01:44] <Stereocaulon> TheEvilPhoenix, sorry, for being offtopic, got carried away I guess.
[01:44] <_r00t_> oops seanmc98
[01:44] <TheEvilPhoenix> Stereocaulon:  not an issue, its not like i'm an op who gets annoyed at offtopicness ;P
[01:44]  * TheEvilPhoenix isnt, btw.
[01:45] <gavin_> the terminal is dead at the moment
[01:45] <seanmc98> _r00t_, yes i know it would but my mother took down the wifi
[01:45] <gavin_> how can i return back to the upgrade part of the ubuntu? through the command line
[01:45] <Stereocaulon> Whether TheEvilPhoenix is an op or not, I can still apologize to the channel.
[01:45] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[01:46] <gavin_> hello
[01:46] <Archangels2> hello
[01:46] <_r00t_> seanmc98, too bad mate. Less pr0n ? :)
[01:47] <Stereocaulon> gavin_, does that go even for the terminals under Ctrl+ Alt + F1 and such?
[01:47] <gavin_> I'm about to upgrade  the ubuntu from 10.10 to 11.04 through the command line but the thing is, I accidently commanded it to the detail
[01:47] <gavin_> to see both parts but now I can't go back to the menu where I can command yes to continue with the installation
[01:47] <seanmc98> _r00t_, wast that, it was because i got a bad grade in art class
[01:48] <gavin_> is there a way to go back to the main part where I can continue installation?
[01:48] <_r00t_> seanmc98, as much as I'd like to help ... the powers that be will say no... besides I don't your mom giving me beef either
[01:48] <Stereocaulon> seanmc98, In that case you'll need that Wifi to improve on your knowledge of human anatomy X-)
[01:49] <_r00t_> lol Stereocaulon
[01:49] <gavin_> anyone there?
[01:49] <_r00t_> hi gavin_
[01:49] <Technicus> robin0800_: Here is an image of what I am trying to describe: < http://i39.tinypic.com/8x4okj.png >.
[01:49] <seanmc98> _r00t_, please help? besides my mom doesnt een know that IRC is
[01:50] <gavin_> hi _r00t_
[01:50] <gavin_> are you able to help me out?
[01:50] <gr33n7007h> seanmc98, try airodump-ng -c <channel> -w <pcap file> --bssid <bssid> mon0 then aireplay-ng -0 5 -a <bssid> mon0
[01:50] <_r00t_> gavin_, service gdm stop && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[01:51] <_r00t_> && fingers crossed
[01:51] <Ibis> Is this normal?  mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda2 mkfs.ext4: /lib/libblkid.so.1: no version information available (required by mkfs.ext4)
[01:52] <kenisaz> Hi room
[01:52] <gavin_> _r00t_ : I can't type the command line in
[01:52] <gavin_> won't let me enter it
[01:52] <kenisaz> can you install wine on Mac OSX?
[01:52] <Stereocaulon> gavin_, not even the alternate Terminals on Ctrl + Alt + F1..F6?
[01:52] <Valtam> this is the wine or mac channel??
[01:53] <gavin_> i'm trying
[01:53] <_r00t_> gavin_ ctrl-alt-f1 ctrl-alt-f2 ctrl-alt-f3 etc doesn't give you a shell ?
[01:53] <seanmc98> gr33n7007h, i effing love you
[01:53] <Stereocaulon> Valtam, this is not the wine or mac channel, but if you are running Ubuntu, we might still be able to help you out
[01:53] <gavin_> no
[01:54] <gavin_> i think i need to restart the whole process of upgrading again
[01:54] <gavin_> unless there is an alternative way
[01:54] <Stereocaulon> Valtam, for general wine inquires, try #winehq
[01:54] <Valtam> lol
[01:54] <Stereocaulon> Valtam, for general wine inquiries, try #winehq
[01:54] <gr33n7007h> seanmc98, try cracking wep its easier
[01:54] <CyborgSmurf> My dash buttons like maximize dosent show?
[01:56] <seanmc98> gr33n7007h, i cracked the only WEP around my house, its what im on now
[01:56] <Stereocaulon> gavin_, you might try upgrading with a Live CD
[01:56] <seanmc98> its called "reactionbailbonds"
[01:57] <Stereocaulon> seanmc98, Better watch out around that one. that SSID looks creepy.
[01:57] <gr33n7007h> seanmc98, then either aircrack-ng -b <bssid> -w <dict file> --OR-- john --incremental --stdout | aircrack-ng -b <bssid> -w <cap file>
[01:58] <seanmc98> Stereocaulon, thats why i use it as minimal as possible
[01:58] <^Mike\b> What's the default email client in the current release?
[01:58] <Valtam> tb
[01:58]  * ^Mike\b lesigh
[01:58] <^Mike\b> Valtam: thanks
[01:58] <Stereocaulon> seanmc98, erect a firewall before you try anything fancy.
[02:00] <seanmc98> gr33n7007h, private message?
[02:01] <gr33n7007h> seanmc98, ok
[02:04] <Stereocaulon> How do I set the lens for software as the default one in the launcher?
[02:04] <nixjr> ml|, im trying to vnc from my debian box, to my ubuntu box that on the same local network, but I the connection just times out, im running vino on the ubuntu and tsclient on the debian
[02:06] <_r00t_> nixjr: can you reach the vnc port ? telnet debianbox 5900
[02:07] <_r00t_> nixjr: I meant telnet ubuntu 5900
[02:07] <_r00t_> w t f ?
[02:08] <Stereocaulon> _r00t_, yes, ubottu reacting without prefixing the command with a bang, creepy.
[02:09] <nixjr> _r00t_, giving that a go now, it says "Trying <IP_ADDRESS> ..." but seems to be just hanging there
[02:09] <Ibis> How can I resolve this?          E: No such script: /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/oneiric                       <---- Trying to install ubuntu server.
[02:09] <_r00t_> nixjr: don't forget the port number ... telnet  <IP_ADDRESS> 5900
[02:09] <josh99> how to make webgl work with firefox?
[02:09] <Ibis> I ran the debootstrap command:  debootstrap --arch amd64 oneiric /a http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[02:10] <nixjr> _r00t_, yeah did that
[02:10] <_r00t_> Stereocaulon: heh let's try ubuntu `sudo rm -rf /`
[02:10] <Ibis> !danger
[02:10] <_r00t_> LOL
[02:11] <_r00t_> that is cool
[02:11] <Stereocaulon> _r00t_, sigh, that must be the oldest *nix "joke". What's your username again? (...Clickety click...)
[02:11] <yagoo> nixjr, you using 11.04?
[02:11] <_r00t_> Ibis: wassup with your debootstrap ?
[02:11] <nixjr> _r00t_, its just timed out now "unable to connect to remote host, connection timed out"
[02:12] <nixjr> yagoo, 10.10
[02:12] <w30> do you copy and paste that with or without the quotes?
[02:12] <Ibis> I'm installing ubuntu  server remotely.
[02:12] <_r00t_> nixjr: stop the firewall on the ubuntu host ? or check it locally telnet localhost 5900
[02:12] <yagoo> nixjr, i suggest nomachine nx.. it's simply ->dpkg nx*.deb (after apt-get install ssh)... and pretty much u run the nx client and the remote just works.
[02:12] <Ibis> Since I do not like the crappy pre-installed server I got. So I'm reformating server.
[02:12] <yagoo> (nomachinenx client under gpl)
[02:13] <yagoo> ./dpkg -i/
[02:13] <Polah> nixjr, is there a specific reason why you're using telnet as opposed to an encrypted protocol like SSH?
[02:13] <nixjr> Polah, _r00t_ suggets i try to to see if the port is working i think
[02:13] <_r00t_> nixjr: correct
[02:13] <Stereocaulon> Polah, telnet clients are great for testing ports
[02:14] <_r00t_> Ibis: debootstrap will build the fs but how will you boot the kernel ?
[02:14] <Polah> nixjr, oh you're just testing ports. I thought you were actually attempting to connect to a server, in which case telnet would be one of your worst options
[02:15] <nixjr> _r00t_, telnet localhost 5900 seems to have worked "Trying ::1...Connected to localhost.localdomain. ..." how can I tell if I'm using a firewall? I don't remember configuring oen unless it comes pre-configured with ubuntu
[02:15] <_r00t_> nixjr: iptables -L will tell you
[02:15] <_r00t_> nixjr: iptables -F to kill the firewall
[02:16] <realazthat> hi
[02:16] <yagoo> hell(.)
[02:16] <realazthat> :D
[02:16] <JokesOnYou77> hi all :)
[02:16] <realazthat> am wondering if there is a repo for gcc 4.6 on natty
[02:17] <Stereocaulon> realazthat, have you tried searching for suitable ppa's
[02:17] <TheEvilPhoenix> realazthat:  if there is one, it won't replace standard gcc
[02:17] <TheEvilPhoenix> realazthat:  it'll likely install it separately as gcc-4.6 or something
[02:20] <afflicto> Hello everyone - I instaled ubuntu 10.04 yesterday, then upgraded to 11.10, then tried to enable the gnome 3 interface, first - gnome 3 was enabled but it seemed to use textures from another theme, text wasn't displaying correctly etc. I fiddler with the terminal and did some stuff I don't even know.... I essentially broke the installation and I want to reinstall. - Question is: Should i use 11.10 or 10.04?  I want Gnome 3 with the d
[02:20] <Polah> afflicto, install 11.10 from ISO and the reinstall GNOME3. It could be that your system can't support it though.
[02:21] <afflicto> Polah: hm. I did have some window dragging lag.
[02:21] <Miggs> _r00t_: My choppy X session happens regardless of desktop so I can't blame Unity. Seems as though I really am stuck somewhere in xorg.conf limbo.
[02:21] <Miggs> Why did I ever update from 10.04?
[02:22] <afflicto> Polah: but when I used gnome 3 without the dash thing (I don't know how I did that though) It looked like gnome 2, very old looking. At that point window dragging was 100% smooth.
[02:22] <Polah> afflicto, GNOME Fallback I think it's called?
[02:22] <afflicto> polah: yes! I did see that "Falback"somwhere!
[02:23] <_r00t_> Miggs: it happens ... maybe check to see if there's a backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[02:23] <afflicto> Polah: why did that happen, thogh?
[02:24] <realazthat> TheEvilPhoenix: thats fine. I am not really familiar with ppas, I have been looking for packages, but they confuse me for what version of ubuntu they are for
[02:24] <_r00t_> Miggs: One last thought .... have you tried Nvidia's own drivers ?
[02:24] <TheEvilPhoenix> realazthat:  well you can see what versions it provides from the "Package List" or w/e link it is off of the PPA
[02:24] <Polah> afflicto, I know the shell uses Mutter, but I don't know if the fallback mode uses it or not, but it could be an issue with that. I know the fallback is for systems which don't support hardware accelerated graphics
[02:24]  * TheEvilPhoenix checks
[02:25] <Miggs> _r00t_: I thought I was using nvidia provided drivers. How do I get those then?
[02:25] <_r00t_> Miggs: from nvidia.com ? :|
[02:26] <afflicto> Polah: hm k.. Anyway, I'm downloading 11.10 64-bit now. It's finnished now
[02:26] <Archangels2> hello, does anyone know where my audacity is hiding?
[02:27] <knightrage> hey guys. can I start gdm via ssh?
[02:27] <_r00t_> knightrage: service gdm restart
[02:27] <knightrage> _r00t_: tried that, but Xorg log shows: (EE) RADEON(0): No modes.
[02:27] <knightrage> _r00t_: and an X session was just up a few hours ago
[02:28] <Archangels2> When I try to open audacity system monitor shows it opening, but no window comes up.
[02:28] <knightrage> _r00t_: ah, reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1512844 now.
[02:28] <_r00t_> knightrage: you sure gdm is not running ? service gdm stop a few time
[02:29] <yagoo> knightrage, you using 11.10?
[02:29] <Stereocaulon> _r00t_, is there any functional difference between service <service> restart compared with /etc/init.d/<service> restart ?
[02:29] <s0nee> r0dr1g0[away]: its not gdm but lightdm now
[02:29] <Polah> Stereocaulon, service <service> stop/start/restart is the proper way to do it with Upstart
[02:29] <s0nee> _r00t_: its not gdm but lightdm now
[02:29] <Archangels2> None of my audio related programs have been working since I upgraded to 11.10 can anyone help?
[02:30]  * yagoo says gdm can be installed in 11.10 if one wishes to
[02:30] <_r00t_> Stereocaulon: that's a very good question ... I only started using service as I got tired of ubuntu telling me not to use /etc/init.d/ LOL
[02:31] <Archangels2> I just got through asking on #ubuntu -de in broken German, where there was exactly one person and (s)he couldn't figure it out.
[02:31] <robin0800> yagoo, yes it can but why would you?
[02:31] <Stereocaulon> _r00t_, the power of habit I guess. I also manage a CentOS 5.6 server.
[02:31] <Polah> I believe using /etc/init.d/ passes the command to the service directly, whereas service stop passes it to Upstart (the services handler) which then passes it to the service.
[02:31] <knightrage> yagoo: seems like this is an old machine, 10.04
[02:31] <_r00t_> s0nee: thanks and | that straight over to knightrage
[02:32] <Stereocaulon> Polah, thanks for the explanation!
[02:32] <semitones> what program can I use to look at the beginning of a binary file?
[02:32] <_r00t_> Stereocaulon: lucky yummy you .... thanks Polah
[02:32] <semitones> I tried opening it in Kate (32MB) and it crashed my system
[02:33] <Miggs> semitones: head
[02:33] <Stereocaulon> semitones, it *crashed* your whole system? Whoa...
[02:33] <yagoo> semitones, maybe you want "file <filename>"
[02:33] <Miggs> Although you're looking at binary so I guess that's useless.
[02:34] <Polah> Stereocaulon, _r00t_: I could be wrong, just making a decent guess
[02:34] <semitones> Stereocaulon: yeah I had to go to tty1 (which took forever) and kill kate and virtuoso-t whatever that is
[02:34] <Stereocaulon> Polah, your "guess" sounds very plausible
[02:34] <_r00t_> Polah: sounds good to me ... I've been too lazy to find out LOL !
[02:34] <semitones> miggs, yagoo thanks
[02:35] <semitones> Miggs: head exits silently..
[02:35] <semitones> head filename #this is what I did
[02:35] <Stereocaulon> semitones, yes, that's the proper invocation
[02:36] <semitones> but it didn't return 10 lines, it just returned to a prompt
[02:36] <Archangels2> it's 3:36 in the morning over in Germany so there was only one person there to help me.
[02:36] <Stereocaulon> semitones, maybe, you can use a generic binary viewer and pipe that to head?
[02:37] <semitones> hmm, do you know of any? (it is a binary file)
[02:38] <Archangels2> yet for some reason one person reaching across a language barrier has been more helpful than this populous channel
[02:38] <Archangels2> don't feel you have to respond, I really do like talking to no one
[02:38] <robin0800> Archangels2, start with alsamixer in a terminal
[02:38] <yagoo> Archangels2, #ubuntu-de
[02:38] <Stereocaulon> semitones, try od (octal dump), or x(x)d to perform a hex-dump
[02:38] <Archangels2> yagoo, I was just there
[02:39] <Polah> Archangels2, if someone knows how to help you they will. You are not being purposefully ignored, it's just that nobody can help you right now. We're all volunteers who are doing this for no benefit to ourselves, so it's not very much appreciated that you're complaining.
[02:39] <yagoo> Archangels2, don't talk like hitler please. Thank you.
[02:39] <Archangels2> robin0800, I tried it, everything is max
[02:39] <nixjr> _r00t_, woahs things went mental when i ran iptables -F, couldn't even ping the router
[02:40] <Archangels2> polah: I wasn't being sarcastic when I said I like talking to no one
[02:40] <Polah> Archangels2, but you were still complaining.
[02:40] <Archangels2> polah: okay I'm sorry
[02:40] <nixjr> _r00t_, you were on the right track though, i can telnet to 5900 from the client :)
[02:41] <_r00t_> nixjr: oops ... so sort out those firewall rules then ;)
[02:41] <SrPeixinho> can i make questions in this channel?
[02:41] <Archangels2> yagoo, is that a reference to my speaking broken german?
[02:41] <Stereocaulon> semitones, od <file>|head works wonderfully here
[02:41] <SrPeixinho> a question*
[02:41] <nixjr> _r00t_, oh awesome its all wokring now :)
[02:41] <SrPeixinho> a very simple question indeed
[02:42] <semitones> Stereocaulon: great! I will try it now
[02:42] <_r00t_> SrPeixinho: as long as it's not an ALSA question .... go for it ;)
[02:42] <Stereocaulon> semitones, xd is not in the Ubuntu distro, but od is...
[02:42] <robin0800> Archangels2, try Multimedia Systems Selector in /usr/share/applications
[02:42] <_r00t_> nixjr: well done
[02:42] <semitones> hmm, this is what I get (0000000<PHONE_NUMBER>00<PHONE_NUMBER>00<PHONE_NUMBER>00<PHONE_NUMBER>00
[02:42] <semitones> *
[02:42] <semitones> 172340000)
[02:42] <FloodBot1> semitones: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:42] <semitones> sorry floodbot, it was only a few lines :p
[02:43] <nixjr> _r00t_, can I VNC to the ubuntu box when its sittling at the gnome WM login prompt? I wantr to be able to disconnect the monitor and be able to VNC in after onyl pushing the power button
[02:43] <Stereocaulon> semitones, yes, what did you expect, did you want ascii chars?
[02:43] <semitones> Stereocaulon: any idea what the 172340000 value is about?
[02:43] <Kagamine> Hi?
[02:43] <Polah> nixjr, provided the VNC server is started up at boot, yes.
[02:43] <semitones> Stereocaulon: I'm just trying to interpret the output
[02:43] <Stereocaulon> semitones, not the foggiest, especially since you did not tell me what kind of file it is.
[02:43] <SrPeixinho> i dont know what is alsa... im new to linux, installed ubuntu. just wondering if theres a way to stop that side panel (dont know how it is called) from hidding automatically.
[02:44] <semitones> Stereocaulon: my goal here is to see if dd is succeeding in writing to NAND storage of a USB drive
[02:44] <Kagamine> I feel like a complete idiot even asking, but I am having issues with pendrive.
[02:44] <nixjr> Polah, is there a way to list the services that start at boot?
[02:44] <semitones> Stereocaulon: this is a binary dump of the usb drive (unformatted)
[02:44] <semitones> what are numbers such as 1 and 7 doing in binary?
[02:44] <s0nee> Kagamine: what issue ?
[02:44] <Archangels2> robin0800, I get a gray window
[02:45] <Stereocaulon> semitones, private chat? This is a bit offtopic.
[02:45] <Polah> nixjr, most services do start at boot unless configured not to. Run service --status-all and see if it's in that list.
[02:45] <semitones> Stereocaulon: sure -- i am just trying to use ubuntu to accomplish a thing
[02:45] <Kagamine> I am trying to write Ubuntu onto a flash drive and half the files are corrupt.
[02:46] <Kagamine> The most recent one.
[02:46] <Polah> semitones, od writes in octal by default, the option -c will give ASCII
[02:46] <bezor> anyone feel like troubleshooting wireless?
[02:46] <robin0800> Archangels2, are you sure you set the right sound card in alsa mixer
[02:46] <yagoo> Kagamine, sounds like a usb going on an uprise.. you been throwing that usb around?
[02:46] <semitones> Polah: i am find with octet, I am just curious about what the 17... part means, since it isn't binary
[02:46] <Kagamine> Not that I can recall?
[02:46] <_r00t_> SrPeixinho: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-change-unity-sidebar-launcher-auto-hide-behaviour-in-ubuntu-11-04
[02:47] <SrPeixinho> thank you very, very, very much.
[02:47] <s0nee> Kagamine: type the nick of the person you want to talk to at the beginning of the line. also how do you know the files are corrupted ? what program gives the msg ?
[02:47] <Archangels2> robin0800, appears to be
[02:47] <_r00t_> SrPeixinho: hope it helps
[02:47] <Polah> semitones, octal includes the numbers 0 to 7. No idea what it's for in the context of your file since I've no idea what it is.
[02:47] <bezor> I have installed the wireless drivers from both the additional drivers gui, the jockey backend, as well as fwcutter for a broadcom bcm4311. I get no wireless. lshw shows the device to be unclaimed. any ideas?
[02:48] <nixjr> Polah, nothing that that list with vnc, vino, or remote in its name, I'll just try rebooting and see what happens
[02:48] <xIndirect> holy sweet jesus thats alot of people
[02:48] <_r00t_> SrPeixinho: that is for version 11.04
[02:48] <yagoo> nixjr, you would of got remote linux if you um.. simply did what i would do.. LOL
[02:49]  * yagoo laughs so hard
[02:49] <yagoo> remote linux is VERY easy.
[02:49] <semitones> Polah: oh, thanks :) #didn't know what octet was
[02:49] <bezor> I got it to work on another laptop same hardware
[02:49] <xIndirect> guys quick question, VGA-out doesnt work from laptop to TV while booted into Ubuntu. How do I fix it?
[02:49] <bezor> strange
[02:49] <Polah> semitones, octal, not octet. Base-8 number system
[02:50] <bezor> xindirect does you computer have a fn key to swith video out?
[02:50] <yagoo> xIndirect, it may be the bad support for your laptop model.. see linux-laptops.org
[02:50] <xIndirect> Not that I see
[02:50] <xIndirect> thanks yagoo
[02:50] <xIndirect> brb
[02:50] <bezor> on a dell laptop it is f8
[02:50] <yagoo> xIndirect, laptops are very problematic
[02:50] <bezor> fn f8
[02:50] <SrPeixinho> _r00t_: worked. thanks again
[02:50] <bezor> any ideas on the wireless drivers?
[02:51] <xIndirect> I have a sony vaio VPC-EH13FX
[02:51] <yagoo> xIndirect, actually this one is better http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[02:51] <_r00t_> SrPeixinho: cool, you're welcome
[02:51] <bezor> any help with the wireless drivers would be appreciated
[02:51] <xIndirect> bezor what issues with drivers?
[02:52] <bezor> i have the drivers installed but lshw shows them unclaimed
[02:52] <bezor> no wireless
[02:52] <Kagamine> yag00, s0nee: one of many error messages I am getting w/ pendrive when it tries to write ubuntu 11.10 to my usb drive is "Data error in '.disk\info. File is broken'"
[02:52] <xIndirect> did you use ndiswrapper (incase they didnt actually take during install)
[02:52] <GBABY> need some help??? how wood you set a livevideo as your desktop back ground pitcture
[02:52] <bezor> not yet
[02:53] <Archangels2> robin0800, what would be the name of the process that multimedia systems selector starts
[02:53] <bezor> i used fwcutter
[02:53] <bezor> and jockey
[02:53] <s0nee> im installing the GUI from the base. any one has a guide on GUI structure like xinit, startx, xorg, display manager and that kind of stuffs ?
[02:53] <bezor> do you know where to get the infs for ndis?
[02:53] <yagoo> Kagamine, did you see dmesg? (any i/o reset errors with usb hd) (dmesg |tail)
[02:53] <xIndirect> yeah check in C:\windows\OEM or C:\windows\system32\oem
[02:53] <robin0800> Archangels2, perhaps alsa
[02:53] <xIndirect> like for intel wifi link its...
[02:54] <bezor> I don't have windows on the pc
[02:54] <bezor> I'll have to get it from dell, bah!
[02:54] <yagoo> bezor, bcm4313 ?
[02:54] <Archangels2> robin0800, all I got on system monitor is alsa mixer
[02:54] <GBABY> need some help??? how wood you set a livevideo as your desktop back ground pitcture and please put me naem in frount so i no yout talking to me...
[02:54] <bezor> bcn4311
[02:54] <Polah> s0nee: You'll want to install half a dozen Xserver components and their dependencies and X should startup next time you boot. For an environment it's as easy as apt-get install gnome/xfce/lxde and their login managers or LightDM for example
[02:54] <xIndirect> bezor, what is your wireless card?
[02:54] <Kagamine> Has anyone tried to install Ubuntu from Windows using this? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
[02:54] <bezor> bcm4311
[02:54] <bezor> broadcom
[02:54] <xIndirect> Kagamine, I did it.
[02:55] <GBABY> i did it to
[02:55] <xIndirect> I usually partition but until I find my gParted drive, i refuse to do it.
[02:55] <yagoo> bezor, did u try apt-get install firmware-b43-installer?
[02:55] <Polah> Kagamine, WUBI isn't recommended for actual working installs. It's more of a way for people to try out Ubuntu with a bit more permanence than a Live session from a LiveCD/USB.
[02:55] <bezor> yeah, and bcm-fwcutter
[02:55] <Kagamine> I have an error message that is from pyrun.exe saying no disk. Which I know is my computer but I have no idea what to do.
[02:55] <Archangels2> robin0800, it was gstreamer properties, or maybe dependent on gstreamer-properties, either way it's dead now
[02:55] <s0nee> Polah: i know how to install those things. i just want a guide or explanation about the GUI structure
[02:55] <yagoo> bezor, after that.. do iwlist scan
[02:56] <seanmc98> !test
[02:56]  * RaTTuS|BIG Humps bnovc
[02:56] <Kagamine> Polah, good to know.
[02:56] <robin0800> Archangels2, you probably want pulse audio as well
[02:56] <bezor> interface doesn't support scanning
[02:56] <bezor> it doesn't show up
[02:56] <xIndirect> yeah, wubi is pretty buggy.  That's buggy. :p
[02:57] <yagoo> Polah, that's not really a true linux install.. you should know wubi is simply good for trying out ubuntu..
[02:57] <afflicto> Hello I'm back. I have installed ubuntu 11.10 on my 3'rd HDD now. Works fine! it doesn't lag anymore. I haven't installed the ATI drivers though, I suspect that the ATI drivers makes it lag.
[02:57] <yagoo> Polah, trying to repair it's boot if you have to has very little documentation
[02:57] <robin0800> Archangels2, this was an upgrade?
[02:58] <bezor> no wireless, maybe reinstall windows?
[02:58] <Archangels2> robin0800, yes
[02:58] <xIndirect> quick question, anyway to not use the grub bootloader and instead use windows bootloader to select or is grub mandatory?
[02:58] <Archangels2> robin0800, no wait no it wasn't
[02:58] <yagoo> bezor, you talk to the wall or yourself? who you talking to madman?
[02:58] <Polah> yagoo: I know, that's what I said; it's only for trying it out.
[02:58] <spiky25> who know about ad-hoc connections here ??? I was using one but it seem broken now ...
[02:58] <afflicto> Polah: Now that I have a clean 11.10 install (without ATI drivers) and the Unity interface is working smoothly. What do I do to enable the Gnome 3 interface? sudo apt-get install gnome-shell or something?
[02:59] <pangolin> yagoo: could you please drop the attitude and name calling
[02:59] <bezor> yagoo, i know, windows is a dirty word here. but wirelss just works in windows
[02:59] <Archangels2> robin0800, 10.04 to 10.10 seems to be a downgrade so far
[02:59] <_r00t_> xIndirect: yes you can use the windows bootloader - don't ask how :p
[02:59] <robin0800> Archangels2, pulse audio is a sound server
[02:59] <xIndirect> im guessing by fixing mbr and all that good stuff using my currently lost repair disc
[02:59] <yagoo> bezor, well you say you want to go windows on here when i'm trying to help you.. pisses me off. End of story. I'm not helping you.
[02:59] <Polah> afflicto, sudo apt-get install gnome should get gnome-shell and gnome-panel, it's definitely get -shell at least. Then try out shell and see if it's buggy (GNOME from the login screen), if it is then you can use GNOME Fallback (gnome-panel)
[02:59] <xIndirect> oh goodie
[02:59] <Kagamine> yag00, s0nee: would I maybe get better results try to write 10.4 to a usb? I would burn an iso but I only have 700 mb cd-rs :/
[02:59] <bezor> xindirect, you can boot ubuntu from windows loader if you want, or use pblop
[03:00] <GBABY> need some help??? how wood you set a livevideo as your desktop back ground pitcture
[03:00] <Polah> Kagamine, the ISO is less than 700MB. It's ~650MB.
[03:00] <Polah> GBABY: I don't think it's possible
[03:00] <bezor> yagoo, sorry, i appreciate the help,
[03:00] <afflicto> Polah: yea well I won't use gnome fallback since it doesn't have that Dash button and not the application\window switcher that comes up upon pressing the Super button. Anyway, I'l try to install the gnome shell. so Brb!
[03:00] <GBABY> polah:ive been trying to figure it out all day
[03:00] <Archangels2> robin0800, yes I understand what pulse audio I didn't understand what you meant by 'you'll probably want pulseaudio too' though
[03:00] <xIndirect> well, time to boot into my wubi install, grab all my folders and whatnot, uninstall it, repartition drive, then enjoy ubuntu again. :p
[03:01] <spiky25> What is the fuck with ubuntu 11.10, I was using an ad-hoc connection on 10.04, I can't make it work anymore even with 10.04 ...
[03:01] <Jordan_U> !language | spiky25
[03:01] <bezor> spiky25, i'm having network issues after upgrade too
[03:01] <GBABY> polah: ive been trying to figure it out all day
[03:01] <_r00t_> !help
[03:01] <robin0800> Archangels2, first try and get gstreamer working
[03:02] <GBABY> so i cant do it
[03:02]  * yagoo remembers one may need to blacklist a module for bcm4xx
[03:02] <spiky25> bezor, like always, ubuntu stuff get worse everyday ...
[03:02] <_r00t_> !man ubottu
[03:02] <DarkStar1> hi guys. \i know this isn't the channel for it but I thought \i'd ask for a professional opinion anyways. Of the versioning tools which is the easiest to use? (CVS, Git, Mercurial or subversion) I've never used any such tool before.  Or can someone direct me to a comparison site between git, subversion, cvs and mercurial. Thanks
[03:02] <GBABY> root its fun
[03:02] <GBABY> ubuntu
[03:02] <Jordan_U> Kagamine: Since the problem is likely a hardware problem with your USB drive using a different version of Ubuntu wouldn't help anything, and as mentioned already Ubuntu isos (the ones not made for DVDs) are less than 700 MiB.
[03:03] <bezor> turtle svn
[03:03] <GBABY> thank you polah
[03:03] <Archangels2> robin0800, you mean the process I killed?
[03:03] <DarkStar1> I'm uding netbeans andI'm trying to decide which of the four to use
[03:03] <bezor> i mean tortiose http://tortoisesvn.net/downloads.html
[03:03] <GBABY> r00t its easy i have 11.10 its nice
[03:04] <spiky25> DarkStar1, git is old but decent for a big team, cvs is less used, mercurial also, subversion is decent for little projects on github ...
[03:04] <Kagamine> @Polah I saw that right after I typed that, xD. Will give it a shot when it finishes downloading. LAdies and gents, I am not even gonna lie, I am kinda drunk right now, I appreciate your patienmce.
[03:04] <afflicto> Polah: just to be very clear: This is what I'm after = http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q-wzDm1TLuY/TpxpYBBPmQI/AAAAAAAAGUk/lzeNiv0aS2U/elegance_gnome-shell.png
[03:04] <robin0800> Archangels2, you need it why did you kill it?
[03:04] <bezor> Wireless in ubuntu is killing me!
[03:04] <Thelmaria> spiky25: Git is newer then cvs, svn, mercurial?
[03:04] <_r00t_> DarkStar1: ouch ! You could start a flame with that one .... I've used all of them and still get laughed at for using SVN and CVS
[03:04] <KM0201> bezor: then you're doing something wrong.. most of them are pretty easy.
[03:05] <pnorman> I just had occasion to connect a monitor to my ubuntu server, and the video is not working. on reboot I have video through the startup, then briefly see a screen that says hardware monitor, then the monitor turns off
[03:05] <bezor> i know, i have installed it sucessfully on the same laptop hardware, but for some reason, just this one fails
[03:05] <KM0201> whats the device?
[03:05] <Polah> afflicto, you'll need to get the theme for that then (unless it comes by default, I don't know)
[03:05] <DarkStar1> spiky25: thx. I'm about to start working on a medium sized project and was wondering which of the 4 to commit to.
[03:05] <spiky25> Thelmaria, git is from linus itself, now updated by another guy ...
[03:05] <bezor> i have multiple dells d630s
[03:05] <afflicto> polah: ok. well I'll install gnome shell now brb.
[03:06] <GBABY> polah: that looks lliek pc- andriod
[03:06] <GBABY> that lok nice
[03:06] <_r00t_> spiky25: just because Linus created git doesn't mean it's applicable for every project
[03:06] <pnorman> I am unsure how to start debugging this since I can't log onto the machine and can't SSH in for other reasons
[03:06] <Archangels2> robin0800, no that wasn't the process I killed, I goofed, it was gstreamer-properties
[03:06] <DarkStar1> i was told about github the other day but I don't think I'll have the budget to afford paying for it
[03:06] <Kagamine> Guys, cross your finger that this works, this is my last cd-r.
[03:06] <spiky25> _r00t_ I know, I said it was decent for large groups ...
[03:06] <DarkStar1> well it's services
[03:06] <bezor> km0201: I've used fw-bcm-installer, device driver gui, ect. it says driver active, but no wirelss, lshw says device unclaimed
[03:07] <pnorman> The video is onboard ATI
[03:07] <_r00t_> spiky25: soz ... I missed that bit ;)
[03:07] <Archangels2> robin0800, the process spawned by opening multimedia sytems selector, it was being unresponsive
[03:07] <bezor> i might have to use ndis but i don;t have the inf, no more windows installs
[03:07] <Kagamine> Another question: will I be able to upgrade to 11 from 10 or will that be another cd to burn?
[03:07] <Thelmaria> spiky25: That doesn't make it old, heh. It's activly maintained and developed by more then just "another guy", and linus still commits. Claiming that git is old compared to the others you listed is just plain wrong.
[03:07] <_r00t_> list your best aliases
[03:08] <Jordan_U> Kagamine: Wait, don't burn 10.04 to a CD if you want 11.10.
[03:08] <zykotick9> !text | pnorman
[03:08] <spiky25> Thelmaria, old mean more stable ...
[03:08] <bezor> does anyone know of any other resources i could use to get wirless help?
[03:08] <Archangels2> robin0800, does gstreamer have any other names?
[03:08] <pnorman> zykotick9: it's ubuntu server, there is *only* text only mode. when I say no video, i mean absolutely nothing
[03:08] <bezor> any other websites or anything?
[03:08] <Thelmaria> spiky25: So you're still running linux 1.x, right? ;)
[03:09] <zykotick9> pnorman, you haven't added a gui?  that's not very ubuntu-server like ;)  sorry can't help then.  good luck.
[03:09] <DarkStar1> _r00t_: which would you recommend I use? I've decided I'm going to commit to using netbeans dev IDE and it comes with all 4
[03:09] <Kagamine> Jordan_U, too late. :[
[03:09] <Jordan_U> Kagamine: You can of course upgrade from 10.04 (or 10.10, they are two different versions "10" is not an Ubuntu version) to 11.10, but it will take a lot of time and bandwidth and is a little silly when you can just burn 11.10 to a CD and save yourself the hassle.
[03:09] <bezor> seriously, in windows 7 the wirelss just works. Even in 10.10 it just worked. now it's borked!
[03:09] <robin0800> Archangels2, I would us synaptic and reinstall alsa gestreamer and pulse audio
[03:09] <pnorman> zykotick9: I will try escape and/or shift to see if I can get *anything* up
[03:10] <spiky25> no version 2.6 to 3.01 mostly, maintenance is still there so ...
[03:10] <diamonds> how do I type é
[03:10] <DarkStar1> _r00t_:  but it will also have t be something that I can scale up for use by a team of say 5 devs
[03:10] <Kagamine> Jordan_U I will waddle out tomorrow and buy some new CD-rs. xD At the very least I know and am relatively comfortable with 10.4, and so that will do me for now. :)
[03:10] <spiky25> geany > svn (if alone) else git (group)
[03:11] <Archangels2> robin0800, ok I'll do that, but I sort of don't care if pulse audio is rotting in the bottom of my garbage can, do you know how I could get jack working?
[03:11]  * DarkStar1 is still happy with Lucid as it plays nicely with virtualbox
[03:11] <diamonds> I don't have an alt+gr key :(
[03:11] <TheHackOps> Hey guys just installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS no audio output
[03:11] <DarkStar1> spiky25: thx. I'll test out git then
[03:11] <_r00t_> DarkStar1: Vmware FTW
[03:11] <robin0800> Archangels2, no
[03:12] <Kagamine> Ok, let's install some goddamn linux
[03:12] <Archangels2> robin0800, thanks anyway
[03:12] <KM0201> ..
[03:12] <zykotick9> _r00t_, vmware wins nothing
[03:12] <pnorman> Okay, I'm now in the grub menu
[03:12]  * spiky25 was happy on Lucid when ad-hoc connections where working well ...
[03:12] <_r00t_> DarkStar1: what's the project language
[03:12] <DarkStar1> _r00t_: I tried that on a linux install and it gave me no end of problems. vbox was a breeze so I stuckk with vbox
[03:12] <Stereocaulon> Archangels2, maybe try out Ubuntu Studio? That distro is geared towards professional audio editing and should have a working Jack environment
[03:13] <_r00t_> zykotick9: seriously .... Virtualpox for the amateurs .... vmware for the pros.
[03:13] <DarkStar1> _r00t_:  php AJAX for one JAvA EE web dev for the othe
[03:13] <Archangels2> Stereocaulon, would it have everything working from jack?  Like chrome and firefox?
[03:14] <DarkStar1> _r00t_: I am a virtualisation amateur
[03:14] <zykotick9> _r00t_, perhaps "pros" that don't care about software freedom.  But VMWare is a poor virtualization environment: VBox for desktops, KVM for servers.
[03:14] <DarkStar1> isn't KVM free?
[03:14] <Stereocaulon> Archangels2, Jack is not really suited for that. But you *can* do it using the switchboard that comes with Jack
[03:15] <Archangels2> stereocaulon: jack used to work before I upgraded but that is definitely worth looking into.
[03:15] <zykotick9> DarkStar1, so is vbox
[03:15] <freshinstall> hey
[03:15] <freshinstall> can one host have 2 entries in /etc/hosts - if it has 2 nics on different subnets?
[03:15] <spiky25> Archangels2, check distrowatch.com do a research for multimedia oriented distros and choose your poison, some love Archlinux to be up-to-date on softwares ...
[03:15] <Stereocaulon> Archangels2, they're at a 11.04 equivalent right now
[03:15] <freshinstall> ie. an lan nic and an internet nic?
[03:15] <TheHackOps> Kagamine, Sounds like a plan
[03:15] <DarkStar1> zykotick9: ye i have tons of vbox Os'es
[03:15] <TheHackOps> Hey guys just installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS no audio output anyone got an idea
[03:15] <_r00t_> zykotick9: You can't be serious ! I've been using VirtualBox for years and just switched to vmware for very good reasons
[03:16] <zykotick9> DarkStar1, another advantage to VBox is it performs bettern then VMware :)
[03:16] <DarkStar1> freshinstall: yeah
[03:16] <MonkeyDust> i run win xp in vbox just fine :)
[03:16] <Stereocaulon> Archangels2, the last time I used jack on Ubuntu was on 10.04
[03:16] <freshinstall> DarkStar1, cheers.  how does the "client" decide which one to use each time?
[03:16] <invisiblek> is there any significant changes in the installation process if my target drive is a usb flash drive?
[03:17] <Archangels2> Stereocaulon, do you know if different distros play nicely together on a single hard drive?
[03:17] <_r00t_> zykotick9: rubbish... what version of vmware are you talking about ?
[03:17] <invisiblek> it didn't seem to want to boot for me after installing normally...
[03:17] <zykotick9> invisiblek, be sure to install grub to where you want it!
[03:17] <DarkStar1> freshinstall: you'd have to configure each nic's ip rules. I haven't done that in a while so can't remember off the top of my head right now
[03:17] <invisiblek> zykotick9, grub is installed
[03:18] <MonkeyDust> what i like about vmware and vbox has not, is tabs
[03:18] <freshinstall> DarkStar1, thanks for that. will google more.
[03:18] <nixjr> I'm trying to install "openssh-server" and it gives the following error "Depends: openssh-client (=1:5.5p1-4ubuntu4) but 1:5.5p1-4ubuntu5 is to be installed"
[03:18] <zykotick9> invisiblek, but to where?  by default it will try to install to your HD instead of the USB - thus USB won't be bootable
[03:18] <invisiblek> no hdd attached
[03:18] <DarkStar1> freshinstall: something to do with the host.allow and host.deny if my memory serves me right
[03:19] <usr13> nixjr: sudo apt-get -f install
[03:19] <Jordan_U> zykotick9: invisiblek: When installing to USB, Ubuntu (at least as of 10.10, probably earlier as well) will properly install grub's boot sector to the same USB.
[03:19] <pnorman> In the grub command line, what's the equivalent of doing |more?
[03:19] <_r00t_> nixjr: what's wrong with apt-get install ssh ?
[03:19] <Jordan_U> pnorman: "pager=1" (as a separate command).
[03:20] <DarkStar1> _r00t_: tbh last time I tried installing a vmware guest ( January I think) It gave me no end of problems. in the end I just dumped it and went vbox route
[03:20] <zykotick9> Jordan_U, thanks.  Ubuntu is ahead of Debian in that area then.
[03:20] <nixjr> _r00t_, i want to make this bot an ssh server, the first line of this guide says "Once you have installed an OpenSSH server..."
[03:20] <nixjr> this box*
[03:20] <spiky25> no ones no wtf with ad-hoc connections right now on 10.04 to 11.10 ?
[03:21] <afflicto> polah: i did sudo apt-get install gnome-shell and it started installing, it stopped on "ldconfig deffered processing now taking place" It hasn't said it's done or completed. Is it done?
[03:21] <MonkeyDust> spiky25: those are english words
[03:21] <Miggs> Having just tried out Gnome Shell, how do I remove it completely?
[03:21] <xIndirect> who can help me boot with windows bootloader into ubunut
[03:21] <usr13> spiky25: You need to un-encrypt your question.
[03:21] <xIndirect> ubuntu
[03:21] <DarkStar1> spiky25: so you reocmmend I use git for working with a team of 5?
[03:21] <freshinstall> DarkStar1, ah also host.conf : http://tldp.org/LDP/nag/node82.html
[03:22] <usr13> xIndirect: Why do you want to use windows bootloader?
[03:22] <Jordan_U> xIndirect: What is your end goal?
[03:22] <TheHackOps> somebody must know
[03:22] <xIndirect> restore mbr and bootrec but I need to know if it will pick up ubuntu
[03:22] <zykotick9> xIndirect, that seems like a huge waste of effort to me.  I've heard it's possible, but grub is SO much better.  Good luck.
[03:22] <_r00t_> DarkStar1: I used vmware from 1999 till 2004ish or whenever vbox came around. I've dumped vbox a couple of weeks back in favour of vmware. Decent vt-x and software acceleration. Vbox has lagged behind over the years
[03:22] <Polah> afflicto, try again and see what it says
[03:22] <xIndirect> well zykotick9, my laptop has an assist button incase I fuck up and I enjoy it. :p
[03:22] <spiky25> DarkStar1, I just a techie but team uses mostly git, rarely small projects use svn ...
[03:22] <Jordan_U> xIndirect: Please use complete sentences, I can't understand what you're trying to say.
[03:23] <Jordan_U> !language | xIndirect
[03:23] <nixjr> usr13, just ran that, it didnt change anything ... how can i force a specific version be installed?
[03:23] <DarkStar1> spiky25: thx
[03:23] <MonkeyDust> why!  a war of the virtual machines!
[03:23] <spiky25> I'm just ...
[03:23] <afflicto> Polah: "Gnome shell is already the newest version".
[03:23] <afflicto> polah I guess Its' done then
[03:23] <Stereocaulon> Archangels2, yes, they should work well together, however, If you can, use different /home drives just in case
[03:23] <spiky25> Sorry english isn't my native langage so ...
[03:24] <Polah> afflicto, then I guess log out and try to switch to it then (:
[03:24] <afflicto> k brb :P
[03:24] <tonyyarusso> spiky25: there are channels for other languages by the way
[03:24] <Jordan_U> xIndirect: What problem are you trying to solve?
[03:25] <Afflicto> YES!
[03:25] <Firefishe> Hello.  I'm using 11.10 on an Asus G50V laptop.  I have my BIOS thermal management turned on.  I'm exhibiting temperatures between 54 and 58 celsius.  Although this is a gaming laptop, and I would expect it to run hotter than a smaller unit, these temps seem a tad high.  I've tried fancontrol with no luck.  Is there any other way to increase fan speed?
[03:25] <Afflicto> polah: it worked likea charm!...
[03:25] <DarkStar1> _r00t_:  I'n any case I have to experiment with hyper-virtualisation soon. but I think for destop virtualisation in the home vbox rules. Especially since I just want an easy install process with the vm-ware headache
[03:26] <tonyyarusso> Firefishe: what problems did you have with fancontrol?
[03:26] <Afflicto> polah: however, the main interface is stuck on my 2n'd monitor. and I have the menu "File Edit View Go Bookmarks Help" On my 1st monitor. wierd.
[03:26] <_r00t_> DarkStar1: Hyper-V is a windows thing ... I'm not longer your friend :)
[03:26] <Polah> Afflicto, oh you have two monitors? You'll probably have to fiddle with that a bit to get it to work properly.
[03:26] <urlin2u> xIndirect, http://tinyurl.com/2lhd73
[03:26] <Polah> _r00t_: What about AMD-V?
[03:27] <DarkStar1> _r00t_: sorry I meant type 1 virtualisation
[03:27] <madoo> hi evry one there
[03:27] <madoo> i need hellp pls
[03:27] <Afflicto> Polah: hm ok
[03:27] <spiky25> I know but there's no one who know about the ad-hoc problem, like zeighest spyware case ...
[03:27] <DarkStar1> _r00t_: I wuldn't touch MS stuff for server side stuff
[03:27] <madoo> i need hellp
[03:28] <Firefishe> tonyyarusso: Here's a paste of when I do:  sudo pwmconfig  -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/723927/
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> madoo: just ask your question then
[03:28] <madoo> can i find here
[03:28] <usr13> nixjr: what version do you want?
[03:28] <DarkStar1> _r00t_:  Or what ever it is called when you virtualise hardware without the need for host Os
[03:28] <madoo> i was have xubuntu and i do ubuntu 10.10
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> Firefishe: You may need to enable a kernel module for the type of sensors you have.  Does sensors-detect come up with anything?
[03:28] <usr13> nixjr: Why not just install the latest version?
[03:28] <_r00t_> darkcharl: bare metal ... yes I know what you're talking about
[03:29] <Firefishe> tonyyarusso: I'll do that and paste it
[03:29] <madoo> i need to remove xubuntu to make ubuntu open
[03:29] <madoo> can you hellp me
[03:29] <usr13> Firefishe: Look at the hardware issues first, see that it is clean inside ... etc.
[03:30] <DarkStar1> _r00t_: for that I hear I have to go back to vmware. This is something I'm dreading given my install experience so far :)
[03:30] <manco> hi all
[03:30] <cori> hey Folks Im just popping on to ask if theyrs a way to put the unity task par on the bottom of my screen instead of the side?
[03:30] <nixjr> usr13, i need version 1:5.5p1-4ubuntu4, has to be that specific version according to apt-get, some dependency thing
[03:30] <boldfilter> How do you remove a ubuntu one folder?
[03:30] <tonyyarusso> cori: I haven't looked into it myself, but have heard that there is not.
[03:30] <urlin2u> madoo, that makes no sense.
[03:30] <usr13> nixjr: Can you paste what it is telling you?
[03:30] <manco> cori, no there's not.. the idea of unity is leave it there..
[03:30] <usr13> !paste | nixjr
[03:30] <pnorman> Does anyone know how to change the resolution that ubuntu server uses? For clarity, I have no GUI and only have access to the grub menu and command line.
[03:31] <nixjr> usr13, openssh-server : Depends: openssh-client (= 1:5.5p1-4ubuntu4) but 1:5.5p1-4ubuntu5 is to be installed ... just a 1-liner ;)
[03:31] <zykotick9> pnorman, do you have a vga= line?  you shouldn't.
[03:31] <manco> cori, you could install docky or other like it and have an dock there.. and just not using unity bar..
[03:31] <usr13> pnorman: xrandr
[03:31] <pnorman> zykotick9: no vga= line
[03:31] <tonyyarusso> pnorman: You can pass vga modes to the kernel in the grub boot line
[03:31] <manco> cori, or install gnome3 and not use Unity at all..
[03:31] <madoo> my windo login its xubuntu
[03:31] <cori> ah kk I was hoping for diffrent news
[03:31] <madoo> i want change to ubuntu
[03:32] <manco> yes madoo, come to the dark side :)
[03:32] <cori> i heard installing gnome 3 can cause breakage?
[03:32] <urlin2u> madoo, is it a wubi, also tab users nicks if your answering anybody.
[03:32] <Firefishe> tonyyarusso: Here's my output of:  sudo sensors-detect -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/723929/
[03:32] <zykotick9> cori, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:32] <cori> 11.10
[03:32] <manco> cori, yes, you could have some compatibility issues, please do homework on the forums and on google for a good tutorial...
[03:32] <pnorman> tonyyarusso: How do I pass the modes?
[03:33] <zykotick9> !nounity | cori
[03:33] <madoo> n0 its 10.10
[03:33] <usr13> nixjr: apt-cache policy openssh-server | pastebinit #And send resulting URL.
[03:33] <Firefishe> usr13: This laptop is cased when it is not in use; in a neoprene zip-cover, then in a zip-up swissgear roller bag.
[03:33] <zykotick9> cori, gnome-shell was an issue before 11.10 - you're all good now
[03:34] <tonyyarusso> pnorman: You can either put them in /etc/default/grub and do update-grub, or edit the line on the fly from the grub menu while booting.  Just put vga= then the number you want on the line that has things like quiet and splash.  You'll want to look up a chart of modes online for some to try.
[03:34] <usr13> Firefishe: Ok, just making sure.
[03:34] <cori> oh kk ty guys
[03:34] <manco> ah, ok zykotick9, cori, there you have your answer.. i wasn;t sure on 11.10
[03:34] <cori> tab didnt seem to work
[03:34] <pnorman> tonyyarusso: Isn't vga= depreciated in grub2, or does that not really matter?
[03:34] <manco> someone knows anything on Electronics Hacks/Mods ?
[03:34] <zykotick9> pnorman, it is deprecated, but still works (or breaks things sometimes)
[03:34] <tonyyarusso> Firefishe: now either run the service command at the bottom of that or reboot, then run pwmconfig again.
[03:35] <tonyyarusso> pnorman: You know, I don't know.  I haven't messed with this since grub2 came out.
[03:35] <Firefishe> usr13: always a good place to start.  I do contract computer servicing, and I can't believe some of the techs before me haven't even considered all the dust that was in the unit.
[03:35] <Firefishe> tonyyarusso: which service?  fancontrol?
[03:36] <tonyyarusso> Firefishe: 'service module-init-tools start'
[03:36] <tonyyarusso> Firefishe: line 116
[03:37] <zykotick9> pnorman, GRUB_GFXMODE= is a portion of the "new" way
[03:37] <usr13> Firefishe: Oh, I know.
[03:37] <nixjr> usr13, http://pastebin.com/50sLScfu
[03:37] <zykotick9> pnorman, and it's technically a kernel thing, not a grub thing
[03:39] <manco> i need to make a keyboard interface.. someone knows something about electronics around here ?
[03:39] <Firefishe> tonyyarusso: I get this:  sudo service module-init-tools start -- module-init-tools stop/waiting
[03:40] <pnorman> I tried hitting e to edit commands and adding vga=773 (for 1024x768x8, which the monitor supports) but I still get the monitor not having a signal
[03:40] <roasted> Question - I'm on GParted trying to maximize a partition size and it's erroring out. The error in GParted says Not all of the space available at /dev/sda appears to be used, you can fix the GPT to use all of the space or continue. How can I fix?
[03:41] <usr13> nixjr: sudo apt-get -f install openssh-server
[03:41] <maestrojed> I am a little confused as to the proper way to install programs on ubuntu. Some times you download an installer and it does its things. Other times is seems to be a folder that is the app (aka Firefox). Am I to move this to /usr/bin? /usr/share?\
[03:41] <maestrojed> the last slash was a typo
[03:41] <Firefishe> maestrojed: There isn't any reason to add things manually.
[03:41] <tonyyarusso> maestrojed: Normally you shouldn't be doing either of those things.  You should be instaling from the Software Centre.
[03:41] <Firefishe> maestrojed: Or use synaptic.
[03:42] <maestrojed> Firefishe Synaptic is saying my 3.6 install of FF is current.
[03:42] <zykotick9> Firefishe, wasn't synaptic removed from the default install in 11.10?  perhaps not such a great recommendation these days.
[03:42] <pnorman> This would be easier if I didn't have to walk from room to room every time I wanted to try something. I'm going to try the DVI output and a LCD panel instead. What's weird is that when I set this up, I did have video. The only major change since then was upgrading to 11.04
[03:42] <roasted> nevermind, fixed it
[03:42] <nixjr> usr13, http://paste.ubuntu.com/723942/
[03:43] <maestrojed> tonyyarusso ok, but not everything I want is available in Synaptic of the new Software center
[03:43] <tonyyarusso> maestrojed: such as?
[03:43] <maestrojed> I am using 10.04
[03:43] <urlin2u> maestrojed, what is the release you're running
[03:43] <maestrojed> urlin2u 10.04
[03:43] <tonyyarusso> maestrojed: and in that case, the answer is "read the documentation of whatever random nonsense you're installing"
[03:43] <maestrojed> I just bailed on 11.X after 6 months
[03:43] <Firefishe> zykotick9: I install it by default.  Software Centre, although nice, doesn't have the lightweightness (if you will) of synaptic.  Also, I usually do apt-get install anyway.  I use synaptic to search for libraries I might need, as it has a great search function.
[03:44] <zykotick9> Firefishe, i'm an aptitude person myself, ubuntu removed that a while ago ;)
[03:44] <Ibis> Is this normal?  mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda2 mkfs.ext4: /lib/libblkid.so.1: no version information available (required by mkfs.ext4)
[03:44] <maestrojed> tonyyarusso I don't know of one for sure. I will let you know. I am re-installing everything tonight :)
[03:44] <Firefishe> zykotick9: yes, but it's in the repositories.  And if it's ever gone, I'll compile it from scratch.
[03:45] <maestrojed> what would Synaptic say that Firefox 3.6 is current?
[03:45] <maestrojed> s/what/why
[03:45] <zykotick9> !info firefox
[03:45] <zykotick9> !info firefox lucid
[03:45] <wolfman2000> Evening. Alright, I admit I'm slightly intimidated by 11.10. I'm trying to learn the Software Center, but I can't seem to find out how to install an updated version of gcc or mercurial through here. Am I going to have to do things manually for certain software packages?
[03:45] <Firefishe> maestrojed: It may be that 3.6 is the current version for your respository index.  You may have to enable backports and updates in Software Sources.
[03:45] <pnorman> of course, step 1 is to *find* a dvi cable :(
[03:46] <zykotick9> maestrojed, 3.6 is current for lucid
[03:46] <Firefishe> zykotick9: I've thought of going back to lucid more than once ;)
[03:47] <usr13> maestrojed: Becuase it is for 10.04.  If you want another verion of firefox, just install it manually
[03:47] <maestrojed> What is 3.6 current for lucid. I thought lucid was a main stable version?
[03:47] <urlin2u> maestrojed, ah I see lucid, if you want a a later FF a ppa would be your best bet  https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next
[03:47] <zykotick9> !latest | maestrojed
[03:47] <maestrojed> usr13 ahhhh install it manually.. ( tonyyarusso :) )
[03:48] <Firefishe> !sru | Firefishe
[03:48] <usr13> maestrojed: lucid is LTS  so ....
[03:48] <usr13> maestrojed: Sure, install it manually, just download the tarball and extract it.
[03:49] <maestrojed> usr13 so that was my original questions that lead down a long rabbit hole. I have. It is not an installer but a folder that looks like the program. I was curious if I am to move it to /usr/bin or /usr/share or some other place?
[03:49] <zykotick9> maestrojed, if you do manual installs, don't put stuff in /usr (keep this for the system) use /opt instead.
[03:50] <Firefishe> tonyyarusso: Any suggestions about my fan issue?
[03:50] <usr13> maestrojed: See my pm
[03:50] <afflicto> Is there any way to move the Gnome 3 panel\menu to my primary monitor?
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> Firefishe: What did pwmconfig say after you loaded the modules?  You never posted that I don't think.
[03:52] <Firefishe> sudo service module-init-tools start -- module-init-tools stop/waiting
[03:52] <Firefishe> That was meant for Tonisius
[03:52] <Firefishe> gads...can't type tonight
[03:52] <Firefishe> tonyyarusso: that was meant for you
[03:52] <nixjr> usr13, any ideas?
[03:53] <Firefishe> tonyyarusso: It says stop/waiting.  Should I do the pwmconfig anyway?  I interpret that at it saying that it's stopped.
[03:53] <Firefishe> at=as
[03:54] <tonyyarusso> Firefishe: Yes, do pwmconfig.
[03:55] <Firefishe> tonyyarusso: sudo pwmconfig output:   .../usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[03:55] <tonyyarusso> Firefishe: well that's too bad.  It's possible your motherboard just doesn't support fan speed controls.
[03:56] <usr13> nixjr: sudo apt-get -f install openssh-server  Didn't do it?
[03:56] <Firefishe> tonyyarusso: Weird.  My BIOS has digital thermal management capability, and it's enabled.  It wasn't, initially, so I enabled it.  The BIOS may just have it, and the board may not.
[03:56] <nixjr> usr13, nope you must have missed my post easier http://paste.ubuntu.com/723942/
[03:56] <usr13> nixjr: This is a 64 bit system, right?
[03:57] <zykotick9> nixjr, you have run "sudo apt-get update" right?  have you mixed repositories or something?
[03:57] <Firefishe> tonyyarusso: I'm tired of these asus/best buy hobbled-down puters.  I'm buying the real mccoy next time.
[03:57] <Firefishe> tonyyarusso: well, thank you for your help.  I do appreciate it at any rate. :)
[03:58] <Stereocaulon> Firefishe, go for a Lenovo, or maybe a MacBook Pro if you are loaded.
[03:58] <usr13> nixjr: sudo apt-get -f install openssh-client
[03:59] <Shdwdrgn> I recently performed an upgrade from lucid to natty, and have noticed that sshd restarts for EVERY network card that is brought up.  My firewall has 6 nics... is there some reason why sshd restarts after each device, rather than only restarting once after all the nics are brought up?
[03:59] <zykotick9> Stereocaulon, if Apple is your answer, you didn't understand the question ;)
[04:00] <Stereocaulon> zykotick9, that might very well be the case, as I just broke in on the conversation.
[04:00] <afflicto> Yay! I fixed it. i disabled my 2n'd monitor. and the panel moved to my primary monitor. then I re-enabled my secondary monitor and now my panel is finally on my primary monitor! YESS!!! IT WORKS!
[04:00] <zykotick9> Stereocaulon, i was just kidding with you, sorry.
[04:00] <nixjr> usr13, "openssh-client is already the newest version."
[04:00] <Firefishe> Stereocaulon: You like the thinkpads, eh?  And, well, the mac hardware is pretty tight.
[04:01] <Firefishe> Stereocaulon: Let's go to ubuntu-offtopic for this.
[04:01] <Firefishe> Stereocaulon: brb....
[04:01] <nixjr> zykotick9, yeah ive updated, not sure about my repositories being right or not
[04:02] <afflicto> I have a question: I have 3 hard drives. hd1 has windows 7. hd2 has stuff on it. and hd3 has ubuntu.   -> If I add music in Banshee from a folder on my hd1. If I restart ubuntu, the music is there but won't play untill I go to "Places" then open that hard drive. -> It seems like it Mounts\Dismounts HDD's.. I want ubuntu to always have them all mounted. - Thanks.
[04:02] <zykotick9> nixjr, i believe "ssh" is an available meta package with both client and server, perhaps try that?  just a wild guess.
[04:02] <usr13> nixjr: sudo apt-get update
[04:03] <Jordan_U> !fstab | afflicto
[04:03] <usr13> nixjr:  And then:   sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:03] <iron> Hello. Is there any way to always set the screen brightness to 100% when booting ubuntu on a notebook?
[04:03] <Stereocaulon> Firefishe, I have logged on to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:03] <roasted> If I want to copy all hidden files/folder from terminal, how would I do so?
[04:03] <nixjr> usr13, is that going to turn this into 11.04?
[04:03] <TheEvilPhoenix> nixjr:  no it shouldnt
[04:04] <TheEvilPhoenix> nixjr:  unless you run do-dist-upgrade or w/e the command is(THAT will)
[04:04] <zykotick9> roasted, only hidden files/folders?  "cp -r .* /destination" might work
[04:04] <TheEvilPhoenix> nixjr:  i might've missed your earlier post - lack of networking, might I ask what your problem is?
[04:04] <nixjr> zykotick9, i was going to follow this guide, but im failing at the first step lol https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring
[04:04] <Stereocaulon> roasted, try this regex: /\\home\\theusr\\\..*
[04:04] <Polah> TheEvilPhoenix, nixjr: sudo do-release-upgrade is for upgrading to the next version of Ubuntu
[04:05] <TheEvilPhoenix> Polah:  indeed, i was answering his question about whether it'd upgrade him to 11.04 or not (assuming 10.10 system)
[04:05] <Stereocaulon> roasted, substituting theusr with your own yuser name of course
[04:05] <TheEvilPhoenix> nixjr:  are you trying to set up SSH server/
[04:05] <TheEvilPhoenix> nixjr:  so you can access your system remotely?
[04:05] <usr13> No
[04:05] <zykotick9> nixjr, glad to see you're following ubuntu documentation anyways.
[04:06] <nixjr> yeah i want to use SSHFS so i can mount folders from this box, ona nother workstation inthe house, but i need ot setup ssh server first
[04:06] <usr13> nixjr: No
[04:06] <TheEvilPhoenix> nixjr:  ok
[04:06] <usr13> But you do need to see that it is set to LTS
[04:06] <TheEvilPhoenix> nixjr:  sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[04:07] <TheEvilPhoenix> erm...
[04:07] <TheEvilPhoenix> actually
[04:07] <TheEvilPhoenix> nixjr:  sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:07] <TheEvilPhoenix> that''ll install the SSHD (ssh daemon, aka ssh server)
[04:07] <nixjr> usr13, its still running upgrade atm
[04:07] <zykotick9> TheEvilPhoenix, nixjr has some package problem with doing that
[04:07] <TheEvilPhoenix> zykotick9:  see, people dont give me info when i ask if he posted earlier
[04:07] <TheEvilPhoenix> zykotick9:  logs please
[04:07] <TheEvilPhoenix> en masse if you can send em
[04:08] <zykotick9> TheEvilPhoenix, i don't have them...
[04:08] <nixjr> TheEvilPhoenix, http://paste.ubuntu.com/723942/
[04:08] <TheEvilPhoenix> what the...
[04:08] <Stereocaulon> roasted, this should also match: .[^.]*
[04:09] <TheEvilPhoenix> nixjr:  what sources do you have enabled in apt?
[04:09] <zykotick9> TheEvilPhoenix, ya that's what i was thinking too
[04:09] <usr13> nixjr: When that finishes, your issue will more-than-likely be resolved.
[04:10] <nhr> Folks, need help, my desktop machine - 11.10 is not starting. Ubuntu screen flashes and then I am dumped to console
[04:10] <Stereocaulon> roasted, so you can copy them with: cp .[^.]* <target directory>
[04:10] <nhr> Last message on the console is checking battery state
[04:10] <pnorman> Okay, so I installed the DVI monitor, and it doesn't work, but it gives me more information. It tells me that there is no signal. So it's not a case of a wrong resolution, it's a case of no signal. Maybe it's not trying to output to the rightplace?
[04:10] <Stereocaulon> pnorman, no signal normally means no connection.
[04:11] <TheEvilPhoenix> zykotick9:  did he provide the content of his sources.list for us to review?
[04:11] <pnorman> Stereocaulon: It displays throughout the boot process, and it will display the grub menu
[04:11] <TheEvilPhoenix> zykotick9:  or screenshots of what's selected in the gui sources list?
[04:11] <zykotick9> TheEvilPhoenix, no and i didn't press the issue - i just asked if he had mixed repos in anyway (i don't think they understood the question really, so assumed they hadn't)
[04:11] <nixjr> usr13, it just finnished, but still getting same error
[04:11] <Jordan_U> Stereocaulon: You're confusing shell globs with regular expressions.
[04:12] <Stereocaulon> pnorman, in that case, Ubuntu is trying to set a nonsupported resolution
[04:12] <nixjr> TheEvilPhoenix, how do i list my sources?
[04:12] <TheEvilPhoenix> zykotick9:  he could have a corrupted few packages :/
[04:12] <TheEvilPhoenix> nixjr:  the sources list is stored in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:12] <TheEvilPhoenix> among others...
[04:12] <Stereocaulon> Jordan_U, yes I am, but it does get the job done.
[04:12] <ylmf-os> hi
[04:12] <TheEvilPhoenix> if you wouldnt mind pastebinning us that...
[04:12] <pnorman> Stereocaulon: I tried adding vga=... in grub, but it didn't help matters. How can you be certain that it's a resolution issue?
[04:12] <ylmf-os> hi
[04:12] <ylmf-os> hello?
[04:13] <zykotick9> ylmf-os, if you have an ubuntu support question - just ask it.
[04:13] <Stereocaulon> pnorman, well, if it did show anything at all at first and then cut out, it's usually a case of a unsupported mode
[04:14] <TheEvilPhoenix> zykotick9:  out of curiosity, do you know how I disable the Translations sources in 11.04?
[04:14] <TheEvilPhoenix> zykotick9:  iirc, the translations arent exactly updated much :/
[04:14] <pnorman> How do I force it to use a supported mode?
[04:14] <nixjr> TheEvilPhoenix, my sources http://paste.ubuntu.com/723955/
[04:14] <zykotick9> TheEvilPhoenix, nope - but i know they get ign in debian (and you can safely ignore ign stuff)
[04:14] <nhr> can anyone please help me. My desktop is not starting - was working fine few minutes back, but unity started acting up and decided to reboot
[04:14] <nhr> Now I dont get anything gui at all. It dumps me on the terminal
[04:15] <zykotick9> TheEvilPhoenix, nixjr 9.10 is EOL
[04:15] <TheEvilPhoenix> zykotick9:  notice Maverick
[04:15] <TheEvilPhoenix> zykotick9:  ignore the first line, read the deb lines themselves
[04:15] <nixjr> zykotick9, yeha i saw that in there, but im sure im running 10.10
[04:15] <TheEvilPhoenix> zykotick9:  why are you using the nz archive?
[04:15] <TheEvilPhoenix> just out of curiosity
[04:15] <zykotick9> my bad
[04:15] <TheEvilPhoenix> erm
[04:15] <TheEvilPhoenix> nixjr:  ^
[04:16] <TheEvilPhoenix> or zykotick9 if there's a normal reason :P
[04:16] <somsip> nhr: Something that used to work for me when I had this: sudo dpkg --configure -a, then reboot.
[04:16] <TheEvilPhoenix> oh nvrmind
[04:16]  * TheEvilPhoenix uses US archives
[04:16] <TheEvilPhoenix> hmm
[04:16] <nixjr> TheEvilPhoenix, im too noob to tell you why, or even to tell you how i added it, all i cna tlel you is i live in that country
[04:16] <nhr> somsip:thanks let me try it
[04:16] <TheEvilPhoenix> nixjr:  that's probably why it added that - i'm in the USA, it defaulted to that archive for me ;P
[04:16] <somsip> nhr: just make sure you're happy running that. I'm not honestly sure what else it does
[04:17] <Jordan_U> pnorman: Try adding the kernel parameter "nomodeset".
[04:17]  * TheEvilPhoenix assumes its just a repo mirror
[04:17] <TheEvilPhoenix> hmm
[04:17] <Stereocaulon> pnorman, try  –xforcevesa in grub if you are a massochist, this will force software graphics only (VESA)
[04:17] <nhr> somsip: Can not be any worst than current state
[04:17] <nhr> Right now I have nothing
[04:17] <TheEvilPhoenix> zykotick9:  why're maverick backports enabled... i assume backports arent enabled by default :/
[04:17] <zykotick9> Jordan_U, nomodeset - oh man if that works, i'll kick myself for not thinking of it ;)
[04:18] <zykotick9> TheEvilPhoenix, address nixjr ;)
[04:18] <zykotick9> TheEvilPhoenix, i wouldn't think by default no
[04:18] <TheEvilPhoenix> zykotick9:  that *might* be his issue - the maverick backports have a newer openssh-client perhaps?
[04:18] <nixjr> TheEvilPhoenix, im following the conversation, i cant answer that sorry
[04:18] <TheEvilPhoenix> zykotick9:  i'm stuck on windows, i'm basically asking you to find stuff for me :
[04:18]  * TheEvilPhoenix hates Windows cluster administration
[04:18] <zykotick9> TheEvilPhoenix, as i don't run ubuntu that might be difficult ;)
[04:19] <Stereocaulon> pnorman, vga=771 might work as well. That one is pretty conservative.
[04:19] <TheEvilPhoenix> zykotick9:  you have google :P
[04:19] <zykotick9> TheEvilPhoenix, and you don't?  lol
[04:19] <pnorman> nomodeset worked. And I think I stepped on my network cable.
[04:19] <nixjr> TheEvilPhoenix, shall i google backports?
[04:19] <zykotick9> !cookie | Jordan_U
[04:20] <TheEvilPhoenix> nixjr:  no
[04:20] <TheEvilPhoenix> hmm
[04:20]  * pnorman just found a new problem :(
[04:20] <nhr> somsip: No luck - does not start window manager at all
[04:21] <somsip> nhr: looks like you're going to have to get into the logs then
[04:21] <pnorman> Instead of a login window, I get a screen with an underscore blinking in the top-left corner
[04:21] <zykotick9> TheEvilPhoenix, do you happen to know, do packports in Ubuntu get different naming conventions at all?  they do in debian.
[04:21] <nhr> somsip: what should I look for - fortunately ctrl-alt f2 is working
[04:21] <TheEvilPhoenix> zykotick9:  nfc
[04:22] <TheEvilPhoenix> zykotick9:  i dont think so, they're generally following the standard ubuntu naming conventionality but with a higher version number
[04:22]  * TheEvilPhoenix isnt certain though
[04:22] <somsip> nhr: I'd suggest starting with dmesg output to pastebin and copying the URL here. More experienced people than me may be able to help
[04:23] <TheEvilPhoenix> nixjr:  tbh, i'm not sure why your system is this way,except for *maybe* that during the Karmic -> Lucid -> Maverick upgrades, something in there exploded
[04:24] <nixjr> TheEvilPhoenix, do most users forat and do clean installs when a new version is out?
[04:24] <TheEvilPhoenix> nixjr:  ~4ubuntu4 (which needs to be installed) exists in maverick, and ~4ubuntu6 exists in maverick-updates.  and what with the fact you said there's other broken packages in the system
[04:24] <nixjr> format*
[04:24] <TheEvilPhoenix> nixjr:  depends on the user
[04:24] <TheEvilPhoenix> some do
[04:24] <TheEvilPhoenix> most wont but thus (un)knowingly accept that things break
[04:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> nixjr:  personally, I usually do clean installations
[04:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> but i usually run whatever the latest release is, minus 1
[04:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> but that's me
[04:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> i have time, resources, and tons of backups
[04:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[04:26] <dtcummin> how come if I do a "locate xorg.conf" it finds it in "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" but when I navigate to there I can't find that file
[04:26] <zykotick9> nixjr, when i ran ubuntu i always clean installed - that was after my first two attempts at updating ubuntu blew up
[04:26] <Snowie> sup all. I would like to disable splash screen (as have simple login prompt) and then boot straight into 2d unity on auth. any good reading?
[04:26] <TheEvilPhoenix> zykotick9:  hehe
[04:26] <TheEvilPhoenix> zykotick9:  i even do clean installs of Windows when people want upgrades
[04:26] <TheEvilPhoenix> i just copy their user folders and profiles off ;P
[04:27] <zykotick9> TheEvilPhoenix, with MS it's even more important ;)
[04:27]  * TheEvilPhoenix is a technician
[04:27] <TheEvilPhoenix> zykotick9:  oh most definitely
[04:27] <TheEvilPhoenix> save upgrading to Service Packs
[04:27] <TheEvilPhoenix> in most cases
[04:27] <nixjr> maybe i should backup and format
[04:28] <nixjr> i mean format ... ofc i already have backups *lies*
[04:28] <TheEvilPhoenix> nixjr:  its up to you.  it DOES seem you've got some kind of hellstorm of broken packages.
[04:28] <TheEvilPhoenix> but usually we try and fix your system before saying "Oop, its fubar'd, nuke it"
[04:29] <nixjr> like you said its been though a few version upgrades, so its probably not a bad idea
[04:29] <zykotick9> Snowie, removing "quiet splash" from /etc/default/grub (and running "sudo update-grub") would give you a text bootup to gdm/lightdm
[04:29] <Toph2> i know this question has been posed before, but when I upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10, I lost all sound. What is the fix, please?
[04:30] <Snowie> zykotick9: thanks mate, will that still allow me to switch users
[04:31] <zykotick9> Snowie, it's just going to diable plymouth from showing the splash is all, text boot up - then the regular multi-user Login will open
[04:31] <Snowie> zykotick9: and what about 2d, this machind is not digging 3d desktopo atm
[04:31] <VerticalIce> weird
[04:31] <zykotick9> Snowie, entirely different issue, depends on your DE
[04:32] <Snowie> zykotick9: sorry DE?
[04:33] <Ibis> In a situation of installing a 64bit server from a 32live cd or virtual machine, how can I chroot to a system I'm putting together?
[04:33] <thiagoalmeidasa> hello, i need help for setup my battery driver in notebook thinkpad x100e
[04:33] <zykotick9> Snowie, i'm sorry - Desktop Environment
[04:34] <Ibis> I keep getting this error each time I try, and I wonder if theres a workaround.         root@rescue:/# chroot /ubuntu           chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error
[04:34] <zykotick9> Ibis, i "doubt" you can (but could be wrong)
[04:35]  * pnorman contemplates reinstalling as the quickest way out of this mess
[04:35] <Ibis> It's not that simple pnorman. Otherwise I would've just done that.
[04:35] <Ibis> I'm installing remotely.
[04:36] <zykotick9> Ibis, and you can't get a 64bit LiveCD there somehow?
[04:36] <Ibis> IDK, it's not my server -.-
[04:37] <zykotick9> Ibis, well good luck - and remember, i could certainly be wrong about the 32bit/64bit chroot thing
[04:40] <rick__> hello all
[04:42] <dr_willis> hi
[04:42] <SheWasAJoker> hi
[04:42] <Toph2> i know this question has been posed before, but when I upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10, I lost all sound. What is the fix, please?
[04:43] <SheWasAJoker> check your drivers,check which device alsa using if you have multiple sound cards
[04:43] <|Anthony|> using ubuntu 10.04 64bit and have custom sound theme installed in /usr/share/sounds/
[04:43] <thiagoalmeidasa> hello, i need help for setup my battery driver in notebook thinkpad x100e
[04:43] <|Anthony|> some sound events don't play a sound... such as emptying the trash. Any reason as to why?
[04:44] <SheWasAJoker> i dont know if there is a empty thrash sound lol,i never use the sys sounds...check the sound settings
[04:44] <|Anthony|> using the freedesktop.org sound naming specs
[04:45] <|Anthony|> most sounds work as expected
[04:47] <|Anthony|> http://0pointer.de/public/sound-naming-spec.html
[04:47] <|Anthony|> followed the guidelines outlined there
[04:47] <DroidDev32> I have windows installed on two different drives, sda and sdb. The one on sda is showing up in grub, but the one on sdb is not. How do I add it?
[04:48] <SheWasAJoker> tricky.Did you install any of these two on top of the grub ?
[04:48] <zykotick9> DroidDev32, start by trying "sudo update-grub" and see if it's automajically added
[04:48] <urlin2u> DroidDev32, did you install them with each drive unplugged, and what are they abd which order did you install?
[04:48] <urlin2u> and*
[04:48] <DroidDev32> it is not added automatically
[04:50] <DroidDev32> i had ubutnu installed on a separate drive and it automatically added sda. Now I just added sdb and it was installed with no other drive connected
[04:50] <SheWasAJoker> the order in grub is essential,if you installed any windows After installing linux(grub) then its possibly doomed
[04:51] <urlin2u> DroidDev32, run this script from ubuntu and post the results.txt in a pastebin  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[04:52] <dr_willis> you could always add the needed entry info in the 40!_custome file in /etc/grub.d
[04:56] <nixmaniack> I have created an account, how do I give access to only disk drives in Ubuntu 11.10 without assigning him to admin group?
[04:58] <DroidDev32> here is the output http://pastebin.com/uiJGV5JD
[04:58] <zykotick9> nixmaniack, do you mean read/write permissions, or mount permission?  for mount you could try plugdev group (not sure it'll work though)
[04:59] <Telamon> Is there any way I can download a package I find on launchpad.net?  I see a new version of keystone, but no link seems to be to a .deb
[04:59] <TheEvilPhoenix> Telamon:  you should add the PPA to your repositorie
[04:59] <TheEvilPhoenix> Telamon:  then it should integrate, assuming it contains packages for your version of ubuntu
[04:59] <nixmaniack> zykotick9, both permissions, mount as well read/write
[05:00] <Telamon> I think it already is.  The problem is that I'm trying to grab a source package (it's a python program) released for Precise and install it on Oneric.  The Oneric one is completely broken.
[05:00] <yagoo> Telamon, the download link is through a series of dumb links..
[05:00] <Telamon> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/keystone/1.0~d4~20111020.1244-0ubuntu1  The tarball is listed on the page, but no deb
[05:00] <zykotick9> nixmaniack, well might be easiest to use fstab for mounting (thus removing that requirement for the user account), then just apply appropriate permissions to the mount points
[05:01] <rsvp> are the days of dual boot with MS coming to a close?
[05:01] <Telamon> yagoo: Any hints as to the path to follow?
[05:02] <nixmaniack> zykotick9, i had one problem, i added both users to admin group,  but when one user mounted the drive other can't access it. what might be the problem?
[05:02] <yagoo> Telamon, ya.. there's no deb.. i just checked.. they have their dumb links "Packages" way way at the bottom of the page
[05:02] <nixmaniack> zykotick9, any pointers to how to do the fstab thing? easy ways?
[05:03] <zykotick9> nixmaniack, no "easy way" that i know of, good luck.
[05:03] <Telamon> Crap, I guess I'm installing from source then.
[05:03] <zykotick9> !fstab | nixmaniack
[05:03] <urlin2u> DroidDev32, have you tried booting the sda1 W7 it appears to have these extra.  /boot/bcd /BOOT/bcd /Boot/bcd
[05:03] <urlin2u>                        /boot/BCD /BOOT/BCD /Boot/BCD
[05:04] <nixmaniack> zykotick9, thanks.. I'll check that
[05:05] <SheWasAJoker> DroidDev32 you can always put a live cd in run "sudo grub" and setup (hd#) again from the begining to restore it.(Havent tried it,it could not work)
[05:05] <tdignan> "If you want to use port 587 as the submission port for SMTP mail rather than 25 (many ISPs block port 25), you will need to edit /etc/postfix/master.cf to uncomment the relevant line for port 587 there. " from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[05:05] <yagoo> Telamon, well it's already bundled to be easily built with the dpkg tools
[05:05] <tdignan> When I open the file, there is no line that says "port" or 587
[05:05] <yagoo> Telamon, (i mean the dpkg-build tools)
[05:06] <prophet> hi guys, i want to install ubuntu in a triple boot pc and i need some asistance on partitioning. i already have 3 primary partitions: osx-efi / osx / windows. and i want to add 2 more for ubuntu and another one for the rest of the disk - formated as ntfs, used from all the os-es.
[05:06] <Telamon> Thanks, I'll check out the docs for that.  I just don't want to have a critical  component of a 40 package system outside of the package manager.
[05:07] <Jordan_U> SheWasAJoker: That is not the proper way to install grub (either legacy or grub2). For grub2 you should always use grub-install.
[05:07] <urlin2u> DroidDev32, basically you have the correct bootloader in each HD's mbr to boot each individually, have you tried tried to boot sda1 by having it first read in the bios?
[05:07] <tdignan> ah, it's "submission"
[05:07] <prophet> is it possible to make this work? i know that only 4 primary partitions are allowed
[05:07] <yagoo> prophet, you don't need the gpt-dosmbr mirror sync tool
[05:08] <yagoo> prophet, gpt is the default partition table style type
[05:08] <yagoo> prophet, (for macs)
[05:08] <Jordan_U> DroidDev32: I see two Windows menu entries in grub. What problem are you having with them?
[05:08] <prophet> yagoo: i dont want to modify any of my existing partitions
[05:08] <yagoo> prophet, problem is if u used the gpt-to-dosmbr mirror tool then that may be a problem
[05:08] <Jordan_U> DroidDev32: s/in grub/in your grub.cfg/
[05:09] <yagoo> prophet, did you do that gpt-to-dosmbr sync? (I suggest you don't)
[05:09] <prophet> yagoo: you mean gptsync?
[05:09] <yagoo> prophet, yah.. i don't think it's good (it would be necessary if you're using xp)
[05:09] <prophet> yagoo: why is not good? i'm using windows 7
[05:10] <yagoo> prophet, cuse refit won't look past the 4th partition dosmbr.. also i'm not quite sure if you force refit to look at the gpt over dosmbr
[05:10] <yagoo> prophet, win7 can use gpt.. not older win editions (such as xp).. so you're safe..
[05:10] <prophet> yagoo: i'm not using refit, the install is made on a pc
[05:10] <yagoo> prophet, are you using refit?
[05:11] <yagoo> prophet, so that's a hackintosh i see..
[05:11] <Jordan_U> yagoo: prophet: No version of Windows can *boot* from gpt on a BIOS based system, and I don't think they only support UEFI, rather than Apple's EFI 1.X.
[05:11] <yagoo> Jordan_U, stfu.
[05:11] <yagoo> Jordan_U, Windows 7 can install on gpt drives
[05:11] <yagoo> nways.
[05:12] <prophet> yagoo: yes, my problem now is that i already have 3 primary partiotions and i will need 2 more for linux (/ and swap) and another one for the rest of the disk that could be accessible from all the OSes
[05:12] <Jordan_U> yagoo: That kind of attitude and language (abbreviated or not) are not acceptable in this channel. Do not do it again.
[05:12] <prophet> Jordan_U: now i'm having a dual-boot osx+windows7
[05:12] <Jordan_U> yagoo: Windows 7 only supports booting from GPT systems when booting via UEFI.
[05:13] <prophet> now let's pass the gpt issue, i'm talking about the 4 primary partitions limit
[05:14] <prophet> windows7 booted from a hybrid partition gpt-mbr
[05:14] <prophet> i don;t want to mess that
[05:24] <Stereocaulon> I'm returning to my coffin, I can see the glint of a sunrise. Yikes...
[05:25] <SheWasAJoker> omg its true. /hiding in shadows quickly :P
[05:26]  * Jordan_U is a white court vamp so he is OK
[05:26]  * Jordan_U has also been reading too much Dresden Files.
[05:27] <semitones> white court?
[05:27] <djjonex> hello
[05:27] <MakerX> Hey lo
[05:28] <djjonex> any guru with mysql?
[05:28] <urlin2u> welcome to our dungeon
[05:29] <pangolin> djjonex: #mysql probably
[05:29] <maestrojed> tonyyarusso So boxee nor xbmc are available via Synaptic or Software Center. Yet are great programs that run fine. ( told you I would get back to you ).  We were talking about it
[05:29] <SheWasAJoker> exactly.
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> maestrojed: fair enough.  I think xbmc was at one point at least.
[05:32] <MakerX> Is there any good remotes for XBMC?
[05:32] <MakerX> Beside the Iphone app
[05:33] <nixmaniack> I'm having strange problem. Sometimes I have 1 cpu, sometimes 3 cpu and sometimes 8 cpu, I'm on Core i7 2670QM. And this is happening in running system.
[05:35] <MakerX> Yeah my core don't seem to be firing properly as well.
[05:35] <nixmaniack> MakerX, I think it's happening after <IP_ADDRESS> kernel update