[12:00] <linuxgeekery> does rhythmbox support mp3s, well, right out of the box?
[12:00] <martyn_> mwe: iwho ?
[12:00] <Chris_C> ok, let me fiugre out the command to mount manually ... is there any Gnome/GUI way to manually mount?
[12:00] <kingspawn> linuxgeekery: nope
[12:00] <tonyyarusso> linuxgeekery: Not out of the box (can't legally), but it's easy:
[12:00] <tonyyarusso> !mp3
[12:00] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:00] <SaLoMoN> Winamp not Running
[12:00] <erUSUL> !tell linuxgeekery about mp3
[12:01] <linuxgeekery> thank you people :)
[12:01] <hijackedpen> how to mount windows drives????
[12:01] <jadaz87> hello i was wondering when i do this command: [code]  sudo mount extracted_fs mnt -o loop  [/code]                        the terminal just hangs
[12:01] <jadaz87> !windows
[12:01] <ubotu> jadaz87: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:01] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: I forget... does gnome have a run feature? (I use xfce).
[12:01] <eobanb> !ntfs
[12:01] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:01] <hijackedpen> ya
[12:01] <hijackedpen> ntfs
[12:02] <micmac> Hi all!
[12:02] <dbernar1> TheMonoTone: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12344 . Back up your _current_ version of sources.list, make what is there your new sources.list, and then sudo aptitude update. Report any errors on the pastebin, please.
[12:02] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: if it does, type 'gksudo mount -t auto /dev/sdwhatever'
[12:02] <hijackedpen> this is really an awesome lnx i have ever seen :)
[12:02] <hijackedpen> ubuntu rox:)
[12:02] <TheMonoTone> will do
[12:03] <eobanb> glad you like it
[12:03] <hijackedpen> thnx
[12:03] <micmac> Could one of you please do me a favour? I'd like to know the perms of your cd-rom/dvd-rom mount point while the drive is unmounted. Like 644...
[12:03] <Chris_C> linuxgeekery: gksudo is the same as sudo?  I've never used gksudo ... googling now ...
[12:03] <tonyyarusso> Chris_C: It's for running GUI apps as root.
[12:03] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: gksudo is graphical sudo
[12:03] <mwe> micmac: perms of mount points have no effect on mounted file systems
[12:04] <mwe> micmac: only options to mount does
[12:04] <ally> helloevryone
[12:04] <Chris_C> linuxgeekery: but mount is CLI, isn't it?
[12:04] <ally> i think i may need some help installing...
[12:04] <micmac> mwe, :) My problem is somewhere else. I'd like to figure out while EAC in Wine with ide-cd works with Ubuntu but not Gentoo.
[12:04] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: well, it works either way. gksudo, sudo - pick your preferred method :)
[12:05] <micmac> mwe, s/while/why
[12:05] <jadaz87> hello i was wondering when i do this command: [code]  sudo mount extracted_fs mnt -o loop [/code]  the terminal just hangs
[12:05] <patrick52222> !nvidia
[12:05] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:05] <mwe> micmac: don't know. is it the same wine version?
[12:05] <Chris_C> OK, I see, gksudo just throws up a GUI password prompt .. I'll just use sudo :)
[12:05] <TheMonoTone> same error pretty much
[12:06] <linuxgeekery> Chris_C: :D
[12:06] <TheMonoTone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12345
[12:06] <danl> msg nickserv identify 221jlm
[12:06] <micmac> mwe, I have 0.9.12 right know.  To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:06] <SaLoMoN> Winamp not Running
[12:06] <TheMonoTone> dbernar1: this is aggravating :-/
[12:06] <mwe> micmac: they are not important
[12:06] <ally> i cant get the gui working
[12:06] <Jowi> danl: you might want to change that password now :)
[12:06] <jadaz87> warrior nope it whould have given me a syntax error :-P :-)
[12:06] <Fenrir-> any finnish ppl here to help me with ubuntu ?
[12:06] <mwe> micmac: 644. but it has no effect when you mount the drive
[12:06] <linuxgeekery> !ati
[12:06] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:06] <hijackedpen> frm where i can download lots of ubuntu packages???
[12:07] <warrior> jadaz87, Just making sure. ;)  I don't recongize the command, so I can't help you there. =\
[12:07] <Chris_C> it didn't like "auto"
[12:07] <jadaz87> warrior of ok
[12:07] <Chris_C> "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[12:07] <linuxgeekery> brb
[12:07] <dbernar1> TheMonoTone: I just said update. Does The update give you errors?
[12:07] <linuxgeekery> exiting out of the cli :)
[12:07] <ally> ok maybe later
[12:07] <jadaz87> !tell hijackedpen about synaptic
[12:07] <hijackedpen> frm where i can download lots of ubuntu packages???
[12:07] <danl> id id :-D
[12:07] <Chris_C> what's the most common filesystem for USB flash drives?
[12:07] <hijackedpen> ok
[12:07] <Chris_C> crap
[12:07] <mwe> Chris_C: vfat usually I think
[12:07] <Chris_C> mwe: thanks
[12:07] <danl> that what i get for forgetting the /
[12:08] <danl> lol
[12:08] <micmac> mwe, thanks. Here it's 700. Are you sure about the 6? It's a dir, I'm just wondering.
[12:08] <danl> is there any way to save a snapshot of all currently installed packages?
[12:08] <mwe> micmac: trust me it doesn't matter if it's 000 or 777
[12:08] <duelboot> danl, should set it up to do it before you're in the channel then it won't matter
[12:08] <micmac> mwe, :) ok
[12:08] <TheMonoTone> no
[12:08] <yo> how do i update ubuntu from hoary to breezy?
[12:08] <tonyyarusso> danl: Yes, let me get you a URL about that.
[12:09] <tristanmike> !tell yo about upgrade
[12:09] <yo> thanks guys :)
[12:09] <yo> appreciate it
[12:09] <danl> i know duelboot... but im usually on gamesurge, not freenode :-D
[12:10] <jadaz87> hey guys i think my sudo command is broken
[12:10] <duelboot> jadaz87, ?
[12:10] <jadaz87> everything i do that has sudo in it only hangs in the terminal
[12:10] <TheMonoTone> dbernar1: no errors from update
[12:10] <duelboot> new install or not?
[12:10] <jadaz87> if i do it without sudo it tells me i do not have permission :-)
[12:10] <dbernar1> TheMonoTone: well, 2 errors less:)
[12:10] <mwe> jadaz87: no error?
[12:10] <jadaz87> duelboot not new
[12:10] <Klick_> Any chance anyone can help me get my stylus working, it seems to be located at /dev/ttys0, and i can load the module with no errors, just doesnt seem to work in X
[12:10] <Jowi> jadaz87: even "sudo fdisk -l"?
[12:10] <mwe> jadaz87: it just hangs?
[12:10] <tonyyarusso> danl: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/09/msg00152.html
[12:11] <jadaz87> yep it hangs
[12:11] <TheMonoTone> dbernar1: true
[12:11] <duelboot> jadaz87, check your /etc/sudoers file and ensure your info is there
[12:11] <arrick> mornign duelboot
[12:11] <duelboot> evening arrick
[12:11] <TheMonoTone> I wonder why there's still 2 libs mia though
[12:11] <mwe> it shouldn't hang if not
[12:11] <mwe> just give permission error
[12:11] <jadaz87> it hangs
[12:11] <duelboot> mwe, true, true
[12:11] <vicky_> yes
[12:12] <jadaz87> and the /etc/sudoers file is there
[12:12] <ohzie> How does one install a debian package? :X
[12:12] <danl> thanks tonyyarusso
[12:12] <vicky_> thank
[12:12] <xbox_sky> ohzie sudo dpkg -i  xxxx.deb
[12:12] <vicky_> hox are you ?
[12:12] <jerware> how do i pm some one?
[12:12] <mwe> jadaz87: Im suspecting host lookup errors or something
[12:12] <jerware> with x chat
[12:12] <erUSUL> ohzie: you should not use apt if possible
[12:12] <jadaz87> ohzie: sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb
[12:12] <mwe> jadaz87: what's the output of 'hostname' ?
[12:12] <xbox_sky> jerware /query "nick"
[12:12] <ohzie> Thank you
[12:13] <dbernar1> TheMonoTone: But, that cinelerra is on crack. libavc1394-0: (control IEEE 1394 audio/video devices), section libs, is extra. Version: 0.5.1-1 (dapper),
[12:13] <jadaz87> mwe hostname is correct
[12:13] <jerware> xbox_sky: will that open a seperate channel window?
[12:13] <ohzie> erUSUL: Cedega == no apt ;x
[12:13] <dbernar1> Same in sid, so that .5.2 does not even exist.
[12:13] <TheMonoTone> dbernar1: thats what I'm saying
[12:13] <jadaz87> my laptop was forced shutdown because ubuntu whould not shutdown or hibernation
[12:13] <xbox_sky> jerware I think so (i'm on konversation
[12:13] <TheMonoTone> I think someone packaged it wrong
[12:13] <jerware> it worked. thanx xbox_sky
[12:13] <xbox_sky> np
[12:13] <vicky_> quel est la diffrence entre un chien et une blonde ?
[12:14] <redguy> !fr
[12:14] <tonyyarusso> erUSUL: Punctuation is good.  "you should not use apt if possible"?
[12:14] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:14] <mwe> jadaz87: the hosts file as well?
[12:14] <captmellow> hello all. i'm trying to do "mplayer -playlist list.txt -ao pcm:file=temp.wav"
[12:14] <captmellow> . is there a way to make it write different wavs for each song in the playlist?
[12:14] <celerex> anyone use supervicse? The daemon tools service
[12:14] <duelboot> tonyyarusso, thanks for that link...I'll use it as well!
[12:14] <jadaz87> mwe hosts file?
[12:14] <Stc> hi, for download dapper repositories .iso ?
[12:14] <tonyyarusso> duelboot: You're very welcome!  I thought it was pretty slick.
[12:14] <mwe> jadaz87: /etc/hosts
[12:14] <vicky_> j
[12:14] <vicky_>
[12:14] <vicky_>
[12:14] <vicky_>
[12:14] <vicky_>
[12:14] <vicky_>
[12:14] <vicky_>
[12:14] <vicky_>
[12:14] <Stc> i have find this http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en :\ but is for breezy ;\
[12:14] <vicky_>
[12:14] <jadaz87> stop please
[12:15] <vicky_>
[12:15] <Stc> for daper ?
[12:15] <arrick> !enter
[12:15] <mwe> beat it
[12:15] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:15] <vicky_>
[12:15] <vicky_>
[12:15] <tonyyarusso> vicky_: Knock it off please.
[12:15] <redguy> !ops
[12:15] <mwe> !ops
[12:15] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[12:15] <vicky_>
[12:15] <jadaz87> !oips
[12:15] <duelboot> vicky_, is going crazy
[12:15] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jadaz87
[12:15] <vicky_>
[12:15] <eobanb> vicky_, if you don't have anything  usefl to say, please leave.
[12:15] <vicky_>
[12:15] <jadaz87> !ops
[12:15] <vicky_>
[12:15] <vicky_>
[12:15] <vicky_>
[12:15] <tonyyarusso> jadaz87: oips?  ;)
[12:15] <duelboot> boot, boot, boot, boot
[12:15] <Rippawallet> I need help
[12:15] <captmellow> ty
[12:15] <mwe> thanks
[12:15] <eobanb> democracy in action.
[12:15] <jadaz87> tonyyarusso yeah i know
[12:15] <jadaz87> lol
[12:15] <Stc> HI , i have find this http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en :\ but is for breezy ;\ for dapper ?
[12:15] <Rippawallet> Can someone help me?
[12:15] <captmellow> what's a good channel for mplayer questions?
[12:15] <celerex> I'm using supervise to run tinydns, now wheneve ri start supervise I get the following: supervise: relocation error: supervise: symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[12:16] <Rippawallet> Please?
[12:16] <DBO> Rippawallet, what is your problem?
[12:16] <redguy> !tell Rippawallet about ask
[12:16] <nalioth> captmellow: you can try here or in #mplayerhq
[12:16] <Rippawallet> About installing ubuntu
[12:16] <Rippawallet> I have the live CD
[12:16] <Coweater> is there any way to blacklist a module from the boot: prompt?
[12:16] <jadaz87> mwe the hosts file is ther
[12:16] <Rippawallet> I restarted
[12:16] <Rippawallet> Partitioned
[12:16] <mwe> jadaz87: is it correct?
[12:16] <celerex> this has happened since i dist upgraded form hoary to 5.Breezy
[12:16] <Rippawallet> The screen went blue and did nothing
[12:16] <DBO> !enter
[12:16] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:16] <jadaz87> mwe it looks like it
[12:16] <arrick> DBO, whadup?
[12:17] <DBO> hi arrick
[12:17] <mwe> jadaz87: are you sure?
[12:17] <Rippawallet> I switched off, and now when I try to partition, the screen goes red and says not enough memory
[12:17] <jadaz87> mwe yeah
[12:17] <mwe> arrick: your web page looks good
[12:17] <eobanb> Rippawallet, how much memory do you have?
[12:17] <jadaz87> mwe my laptop was forced to shutdown and now this happened
[12:17] <Rippawallet> 140GB
[12:17] <Rippawallet> Now 128GB though
[12:17] <mwe> arrick: the image on contact looks somewhat garbled thouh
[12:17] <DBO> Rippawallet, we mean RAM
[12:17] <danl> my previous question should be an idea taken into review for synaptic...
[12:17] <jadaz87> mwe it was working yesterday lol
[12:17] <eobanb> Rippawallet, that is not memory.  that is ahrd drive space.
[12:17] <Rippawallet> Oh
[12:17] <Rippawallet> Lol
[12:17] <mwe> jadaz87: odd
[12:17] <Rippawallet> :P
[12:17] <dbernar1> TheMonoTone: no ideas. Make sure you remove the cinelerra related lines from sources.list.
[12:17] <Rippawallet> Sorry
[12:18] <arrick> mwe, which one the map, or the business card?
[12:18] <Rippawallet> I am really tired
[12:18] <Rippawallet> 25
[12:18] <Rippawallet> 256
[12:18] <redguy> !tell Rippawallet about enter
[12:18] <Klick_> Can anyone help me get my wacom stylus to work, it seems to have stoped after this mornings updates
[12:18] <mwe> arrick: the business card
[12:18] <qw12> Anybody speaks english?
[12:18] <qw12> Please call me
[12:18] <arrick> ok, will work on it thanks mwe
[12:18] <eobanb> qw12: ...
[12:18] <hijackedpen> ya i speak
[12:18] <enr1x|MarcosBOX> sorry but i want to know what package is startx in
[12:18] <Rippawallet> So any help?
[12:19] <redguy> qw12: I don't
[12:19] <enr1x|MarcosBOX> i cannot find it...
[12:19] <redguy> enr1x|MarcosBOX: tried apt-file?
[12:19] <Seveas> enr1x|MarcosBOX, package xinit
[12:19] <Rippawallet> Help a friend out :D
[12:19] <enr1x|MarcosBOX> thanks
[12:19] <enr1x|MarcosBOX> one sec...
[12:20] <hijackedpen> is it necessary to burn ubuntu cd with a speed of 1x ????
[12:20] <hijackedpen> is it necessary to burn ubuntu cd with a speed of 1x ????
[12:20] <redguy> highvoltage: no
[12:20] <redguy> highvoltage: no
[12:20] <eobanb> redguy, :)
[12:20] <Rippawallet> DBO, eobanb
[12:20] <highvoltage> redguy: don't be so pesimistic
[12:20] <enr1x|MarcosBOX> redguy: never heard of that package. i use arch
[12:20] <tonyyarusso> redguy: Did it twice and still couln't tab complete right, eh?
[12:20] <obscurite> hijackedpen - of course not
[12:20] <redguy> darn
[12:20] <Stormx2> My sound has completely gone now in ubuntu. I was using my media player earlier and BAM! No sound. Rebooting doesn't help
[12:20] <obscurite> hijackedpen - burn your CD at whatever speed your system can handle.
[12:21] <Rippawallet> Ffs
[12:21] <Rippawallet> Please
[12:21] <tonyyarusso> hijackedpen: I usually do 'em around 4x myself.  Slower is sometimes good for those, but 1x shouldn't be necessary.
[12:21] <obscurite> Stormx2 - sometimes sound cuts out on my lappy too. Usually a reboot fixes it. It seems applications are fighting over control of the sound. Did you just install anything?
[12:21] <redguy> tonyyarusso, highvoltage well, the lenght of the nicks is almost the same, so i thought that i got it right
[12:21] <hijackedpen> but the forum says if it will be burnt on 1x then breezy will be installed :-s[confused seriously]
[12:21] <hijackedpen> but the forum says if it will be burnt on 1x then breezy will be installed :-s[confused seriously]
[12:21] <dbernar1> Stormx2: use amixer, and paste output to pastebin
[12:21] <jadaz87> does anyone know how i can set ubuntu to check the filesystem next time i retstart i think there is a problem
[12:21] <Rippawallet> I dont mean to be anooying, but I really need help before I go to bed =(
[12:22] <mwe> hijackedpen: don't repeat
[12:22] <obscurite> hijackedpen - everything you type is coming out twice. weird.
[12:22] <redguy> Rippawallet: at which point does this message appear?
[12:22] <Stormx2> obscurite: No, well, a new version of the media player, but I doubt that did it.
[12:22] <jetscreamer> shutdown -Fr now jadaz87 , or change the now
[12:22] <Stormx2> dbernar1: k hold on
[12:22] <Rippawallet> Can I pm you
[12:22] <Rippawallet> To much speaking
[12:22] <mwe> hijackedpen: you'll get kicked
[12:22] <hijackedpen> keyboard prob sorry:(
[12:22] <Seveas> Rippawallet, a) you don't give nearly enough info 2) please don't use too much <enter> 3) get some sleep and try again tomorrow, things work better in the morning...
[12:22] <jetscreamer> jadaz87: also, touch /forcefsck
[12:22] <jadaz87> jetscreamer what does that second command do?
[12:22] <jetscreamer> same
[12:22] <erUSUL> jadaz87: is better to run a livecd and run the check from there IMHO
[12:23] <jetscreamer> creates a file named... guess.
[12:23] <redguy> Rippawallet: if we talk in here there someone else might help you as well
[12:23] <Rippawallet> I see
[12:23] <jadaz87> oh ok
[12:23] <Rippawallet> well
[12:23] <Stormx2> dbernar1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12348
[12:23] <jadaz87> well i will be back
[12:23] <arrick> well, I'm off to church, have fun in here.
[12:23] <jetscreamer> jadaz87: you want it in /
[12:23] <micmac> mwe, it was the moint point perms :) It actually was. With 700 EAC would just hang/crash. With 777 (access all areas ;)) it starts up like a charm. Heh.
[12:23] <Rippawallet> The message came up after I tried to install it again after the screen went blue and stopped one I had partitioned
[12:23] <jetscreamer> jadaz87: shutdown -Fr now touches said file and reboots
[12:23] <jetscreamer> ah too late
[12:23] <Stormx2> dbernar1: ROFL wait... PCM was muted. No idea why I didn't do that. Problem solved
[12:23] <mwe> micmac: that's really odd!
[12:23] <dbernar1> Stormx2: yes.
[12:23] <obscurite> Stormx2 - nice job
[12:24] <Rippawallet> Uhm so anyone?
[12:24] <redguy> Rippawallet: "after the screen went blue and stopped one I had partitioned" <- please say it again. In english please...
[12:24] <mwe> micmac: I guess it's some odd wine issue. for normal mount it makes no difference
[12:24] <micmac> mwe, yes, but I'm really glad it's working now.
[12:24] <mwe> micmac: yeah
[12:24] <micmac> mwe, yes
[12:25] <coz> evening all
[12:25] <Stormx2> evening coz
[12:25] <coz> has anyone here tryed "wayv" system mouse gestures
[12:25] <Stormx2> nope :P should I?
[12:25] <coz> Stormx2, hey guy
[12:25] <micmac> mwe, Ubuntu defaults to other perms, that's why it did work for all Ubuntu folks. Gentoo sets 700 and it didn't :) Pick your distro ;)
[12:26] <mwe> micmac: or fix wine
[12:26] <coz> Stormx2, wekk if you want system wide mouse gestures but i cannot get it to work yet
[12:26] <Rippawallet> I put in the live CD, rebooted, ubuntu screen came up, I did all the language stuff, partitioned, and the screen went blue so I turned off my PC, turned it on, tried to install again, and when it got to the partition bit the screen went red and say something like not enough memory
[12:26] <Stormx2> coz: perhaps you should do a wiki and forum search?
[12:26] <mwe> micmac: does it work if you set it to 755?
[12:27] <coz> Stormx2, I have tried many sources but still no real solutions just testing this but it would be nice I am used to sensiva on a windows machine
[12:27] <mwe> micmac: not just anyone should have permission to delete that dir
[12:27] <Rippawallet> redguy?
[12:27] <redguy> Rippawallet: I get it now
[12:27] <Rippawallet> :)
[12:28] <patrick52222> !nvidia
[12:28] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:28] <micmac> mwe, no other person than root can delete the mount point (it's in a dir owned by root).
[12:28] <mwe> micmac: if it's 777 they can
[12:28] <mtairhead> Is there anyone here who could help me with Ubuntu and my soundcard? I get an error when I open volume control.
[12:28] <Rippawallet> What should I do
[12:28] <micmac> mwe, rm: Entfernen von Verzeichnis ,,/mnt/dvd" nicht mglich: Keine Berechtigung
[12:28] <micmac> mwe, no dice :)
[12:29] <erUSUL> mtairhead: and... what says the error?
[12:29] <malv> does gmailfs work?
[12:29] <duelboot> malv, yes, I got it to work
[12:29] <micmac> mwe, 755 sounds a lot more charming. I'll use it.
[12:29] <mtairhead> thks erUSUL, "NO volume control elements and/or devices found"
[12:29] <micmac> mwe, thanks for your kind help!
[12:29] <redguy> Rippawallet: Well, I can't really think of anything right now. If you could tell us what did the error message say exactly, you might get better help
[12:29] <erUSUL> mtairhead: try alsamixer in a console
[12:29] <Fenrir-> any fin guys here ?
[12:30] <duelboot> malv, there's even a .deb pkg for it...
[12:30] <redguy> !fi
[12:30] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu Ubuntusta kanavalla #ubuntu-fi
[12:30] <malv> duelboot, where can I get instructions on how to use it
[12:30] <mwe> micmac: oh yeah that's because /media has the right perms
[12:30] <mtairhead> erUSUL: ;) Well... That's why I'm here... I have little idea what that means
[12:30] <malv> I tried it but it says login failed
[12:30] <mwe> micmac: don't worry. it was a brain fart
[12:30] <Rippawallet> I dont remember for sure
[12:30] <mtairhead> I got that advice when I googled the error
[12:30] <Rippawallet> SOmething like not enough memory for partition. DO it manually
[12:30] <obscurite> is amixer just a textier version of alsamixer?
[12:30] <duelboot> malv, I followed the instructions from the gmailfs page (and one other which I can't remember -- maybe in the forums...search for gmailfs)...
[12:30] <micmac> mwe, I know ;)
[12:31] <erUSUL> mtairhead: open Aplications>accesories>Terminal
[12:31] <giles> Hi I am getting  "/dev/ida/c0d0p1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"
[12:31] <simonpca> bonjour a tous! | hi everybody!
[12:31] <wali> .
[12:31] <mtairhead> ah. ok
[12:31] <erUSUL> mtairhead: type alsamixer and hit enter
[12:31] <mtairhead> This is farther than I've been... one min..
[12:31] <haGGis> What are the default themes for ubuntu if i was to download them from gnome-look
[12:31] <duelboot> malv, start here:  http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html  then google gmailfs...that's what I did
[12:32] <patrick52222> wats the command to see the gear thing to test fps
[12:32] <mtairhead> "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory andrew@ANDREW:~$ [] "
[12:32] <slavik> would it be ok to ask for a package for anjuta 2.0.1 in the ubuntu backports?
[12:32] <duelboot> malv, had some funky tweaks to make, but don't recall them at the moment
[12:32] <Rippawallet> redguy?
[12:32] <haGGis> What are the default themes for ubuntu if i was to download them from gnome-look
[12:32] <eugman> How do I make it so the custom command for a certain file type will open a terminal window and then send it to the program?
[12:32] <duelboot> human, haGGis
[12:33] <redguy> Rippawallet: do you have any other OS installed? Windows perhaps?
[12:33] <erUSUL> mtairhead: run  ls /dev/snd/*
[12:33] <Rippawallet> Windows
[12:33] <dbernar1> !themes
[12:33] <Rippawallet> I am going to dual boot
[12:33] <giles> Hi I am getting  "/dev/ida/c0d0p1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" on dapper
[12:33] <haGGis> duelboot: i mean are they GTK1.x GTK.2x
[12:33] <mtairhead> erUSUL, am I putting that into the terminal?
[12:34] <duelboot> haGGis, hmmm, don't know off hand
[12:34] <mtairhead> I get a "bash: run: command not found"
[12:34] <redguy> Rippawallet: well it seems that you have to do manual partitioning
[12:34] <Rippawallet> How
[12:34] <redguy> Rippawallet: through the installer I suppose
[12:34] <erUSUL> yes put 'ls /dev/snd/*' (without the quotes of course)
[12:34] <Rdde> Hey, how can i make my samba server only comunicate trew my gbit network card? <IP_ADDRESS> ? is there some interface option?
[12:34] <haGGis> any 1 know what thems work with ubuntu 5.10 gtk 1.0 or gtk 2.0
[12:34] <Jowi> mtairhead: that is quite possible. there is no "run" command
[12:34] <malv_> yea, I get this: raise GmailLoginFailure
[12:34] <duelboot> haGGis, check what you have installed... I have GTK.2x
[12:34] <malv_> libgmail.GmailLoginFailure
[12:34] <spoon> my usb memory stick will not automount. It is /dev/sdb1 when I plug it in, but if i pull it out and plug it back in it becomes /dev/sdc1. is there a something I can put in the fstab to automaticaly mount this each time its pluged in?
[12:35] <haGGis> duelboot: how do i do that
[12:35] <Fenrir-> where i can find Kernel source tree in ubuntu ?
[12:35] <duelboot> malv_, had the same problem...look in the forums...think I found the answer there
[12:35] <mtairhead> ah! Ok.. "/dev/snd/controlC1 /dev/snd/midiC1DO /dev/snd/timer
[12:35] <duelboot> haGGis, I'll give you the gui way... run synaptic and search for gtk and see which pkg you have installed
[12:35] <eugman> Hey does anyone know how to precede a command so it'll do it in a new terminal window if possible?
[12:36] <obscurite> Rdde - i'm no samba expert, but what about the interfaces line of smb.conf?
[12:36] <duelboot> malv_, would tell you the answer, but I don't remember it sorry
[12:36] <duelboot> malv_, and you PM?
[12:36] <celerex> uh, what's teh TCPSERVER binary replacement for ubuntu breezy?
[12:37] <haGGis> duelboot: theres loads
[12:38] <bicky> any1 has experience with linux and WoW ?
[12:38] <duelboot> go to the ones that start with gtk
[12:38] <redguy> Rippawallet: try reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning
[12:38] <redguy> Rippawallet: maybe this will help you
[12:38] <duelboot> haGGis, see ^^^
[12:38] <eugman> Bicky. I think you'd need cedega to play it sucesfully which cost money but I could be wrong.
[12:38] <duelboot> malv_, check pm
[12:38] <viriiguy> Is anyone here running Ubuntu on a emachines m6805?
[12:38] <darx> hi guys
[12:38] <Rippawallet> Thanks redguy
[12:38] <erUSUL> mtairhead: what is the model of your soundcard? i'm afraid that it is not being recogniced
[12:38] <darx> i've a problem with mplayer plugin
[12:38] <redguy> Rippawallet: and this time, give some time to the installer. It Shouldn't hang up on you
[12:38] <darx> and real streams in firefox
[12:38] <haGGis> duelboot: kool found them thx
[12:38] <darx> the plugin spawns multiple windows
[12:38] <duelboot> darx, what exactly is the problem
[12:38] <duelboot> haGGis, yw
[12:38] <darx> the plugin spawns multiple windows
[12:38] <redguy> Rippawallet: take that hand off the reset switch or youll break your installation again
[12:38] <DBO> hmmm, me thinks my xserver is leaking memory like its going out of style
[12:38] <duelboot> darx, sorry don't know for that
[12:38] <DBO> there is no reason for it to be eating 420MB of RSS memory...
[12:38] <mtairhead> I thought as much.... It's built into the motherboard.. emachines trash... Lemmie check the user's manual
[12:38] <darx> okies
[12:38] <Tomcat_> bicky: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=1922
[12:39] <finett> hey
[12:39] <finett> which version of /usr/bin/host is ubuntu using? bind9-host or just "host"?
[12:39] <Rippawallet> Ok
[12:39] <Rippawallet> I am going to reboot
[12:39] <duelboot> malv_, any luck?
[12:40] <EvilDin> hay how to set upload bandwidth limit, i need to set it somehow, because my ubuntu takes all my upload
[12:40] <Rippawallet> Tomottow
[12:40] <finett> I tried both of them on a plain debian and I cannot get MX records showing up :X
[12:40] <malv_> found the forum page
[12:40] <malv_> i'll figure it out
[12:40] <dbernar1> Rippawallet: why?
[12:40] <Rippawallet> Its 23:40pm and I'm tired
[12:40] <Rippawallet> And young
[12:40] <dbernar1> Rippawallet: why reboot.
[12:40] <redguy> finett: hmm try dig
[12:40] <dbernar1> Rippawallet: see ya.
[12:40] <Rippawallet> I am
[12:40] <Rippawallet> :P
[12:41] <Rippawallet> Too young to be up this late
[12:41] <Rippawallet> >.>
[12:41] <duelboot> too young?
[12:41] <dbernar1> Like 5?
[12:41] <Rippawallet> Mebbe
[12:41] <Rippawallet> No
[12:41] <ViriiGuy> anyone in here using a broadcom 4306?
[12:41] <slavik> after checkinstall creates the deb file, where does it keep it?
[12:42] <redguy> slavik: in ../ I suppose
[12:42] <slavik> k
[12:42] <duelboot> slavik, don't know exactly, but you it'll show up in synaptic package manager
[12:42] <redguy> slavik: or in ./
[12:42] <Fenrir-> is here any finnish ppl ?
[12:42] <slavik> !fi
[12:42] <bjorn_> I can't connect to a peer in BitTorrent using Linux, with Windows I can, what is wrong?
[12:42] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu Ubuntusta kanavalla #ubuntu-fi
[12:42] <duelboot> jmoncayo, everything working?
[12:42] <mwe> slavik: it's left in the install dir
[12:42] <void^> bjorn_: what program are you using?
[12:42] <slavik> mwe: ty
[12:42] <redguy> Fenrir-: nobody on #ubuntu-fi ?
[12:43] <bjorn_> void^: Azureus
[12:43] <void^> bjorn_: and what java are you using?
[12:43] <slavik> I am running the configure script with --prefix=/opt
[12:43] <dbernar1> Finnish people are everywhere.
[12:43] <errpast-hc2> My hard disk seems to get accessed about 3 or 4 times a minute
[12:43] <ViriiGuy> make sure your port is set up right in Azureus
[12:43] <bjorn_> void^: I don't know, how can I check?
[12:43] <ViriiGuy> many private torrent groups require a certain port
[12:43] <errpast-hc2> Is there a way for me to tell what is accessing it?
[12:43] <void^> bjorn_: `java -version`
[12:43] <errpast-hc2> Breezy 5.1, on Dell Latitude
[12:43] <bjorn_> void^: 1.4.2
[12:44] <jmoncayo> duelboot, hey buddy everything's fine
[12:44] <duelboot> jmoncayo, good
[12:44] <void^> bjorn_: does it say gnu libgcj java?
[12:44] <mtairhead> erUSUL - "AC '97 Audio" is all emachines can give me
[12:44] <DBO> has anyone ever experienced xorg opening /dev/nvidia0 to 200 or so different areas in memory?
[12:44] <bjorn_> void^: It says this: gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[12:44] <obscurite> errpast-hc2 - if it involves open file handlers you can use 'lsof'
[12:44] <void^> bjorn_: okay, this java is known not to work with azureus
[12:45] <erUSUL> mtairhead: run lspci
[12:45] <slavik> hmm, I need package named "gnome-build-1.0" but it's not in any of the repo
[12:45] <jmoncayo> duelboot, now fixing a script somebody gave me for battery status
[12:45] <void^> !java
[12:45] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:45] <void^> bjorn_: follow this guide to install sun java
[12:45] <bjorn_> void^: Ok I will, thanks
[12:45] <duelboot> jmoncayo, good luck
[12:46] <mtairhead> erp. Do you want me to copy&paste all of that? ;)
[12:46] <mtairhead> ah, wait... "0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[12:46] <mtairhead> "
[12:46] <erUSUL> mtairhead: use pastebin
[12:46] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[12:46] <ubotu> well, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[12:46] <jmoncayo> duelboot, ok thanks a lot
[12:47] <jmoncayo> duelboot, hey i have a question
[12:48] <obscurite> Anyone using kompose in gnome?
[12:48] <mtairhead> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12351
[12:50] <eugman> Hey does anyone know how to make a command open up a terminal window for the program?
[12:50] <KBFX-RELEASED> !smtp
[12:50] <ubotu> KBFX-RELEASED: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:50] <clever> !hotmail
[12:50] <ubotu> methinks hotmail is if you must use this microsoft product, consider hotway: hotwayd/hotsmtpd are POP3/SMTP-HTTPMail gateway daemons, also works for lycos spray and msn
[12:50] <intelikey> eugman gnome-terminal command
[12:51] <clever> only result for smtp:S
[12:51] <amphi> eugman: run the term with an arg for the program to run, eg. xterm -e foo
[12:51] <bjorn_> void^: I downloaded the JRE 5.0 update 6 from Sun Java, but now I've got a bin file and I cannot open it, what to do?
[12:51] <eugman> ok I'll try that
[12:51] <bjorn_> void^: Oh sorry, I see already
[12:51] <ITSa341> I use thunderbird for hotmail it works well also
[12:51] <kicker> I have a problem when the browser displays some pages
[12:51] <kicker> any broser
[12:51] <amphi> hotmail? ugh
[12:52] <kicker> *any browser
[12:52] <eugman> Sweet it worked. Anopther day saved by the folks at ubuntu.
[12:52] <amphi> kicker: even lynx or w3m?
[12:52] <amphi> eugman: of course it worked ;)
[12:52] <ITSa341> amphi  I had an MSN screenname within three weeks of it's release, back when pop was free for it
[12:52] <haGGis> where do i install or find icons themes
[12:52] <tristanmike> !themes
[12:52] <kicker> no, I've tried firefox,opera and konqueror
[12:53] <intelikey> kicker flash related maybe ?
[12:53] <tristanmike> !tell haGGis about themes
[12:53] <chirag> i have a problem where my xmms just randomly shuts off while im going through the playlist
[12:53] <amphi> ITSa341: msn?
[12:53] <kicker> intelikey, I think maybe is that
[12:53] <chirag> maybe its because my playlist is really large and it cant handle it?
[12:53] <jadaz87> hello how do i delete a whole folder in terminal even if it has something in it?
[12:53] <ITSa341> msn, hotmail  same thing
[12:53] <chirag> the music is running off of my windows partition
[12:53] <amphi> jadaz87: rm -r
[12:53] <intelikey> kicker yeah flash is evil.
[12:53] <eugman> Amphi, well yes I suppose it's not like encrypting your harddrive or getting wifi to work properly but I'm still rather happy.
[12:54] <obscurite> Is it possible that lack of network access could cause a 5.10 server install to fail where it succeeded WITH network access?
[12:54] <intelikey> !flash
[12:54] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:55] <amphi> eugman: you have wifi probs? I've only done encrypted loopback 'partitions', which is pretty simple
[12:55] <ITSa341> How hard is it to upgrade xorg server and install xgl and related dependencies?
[12:55] <eugman> No, no just examples of something a little more complicated.
[12:55] <jadaz87> ITSa341 are you using dapper?
[12:55] <obscurite> The installer fails and tells me to look at /target/var/log/debootstrap.log but of course there's no log file there
[12:55] <ITSa341> 5.1
[12:55] <ITSa341> 5.10
[12:55] <jadaz87> ITSa341 xgl only works on dapper
[12:55] <slavik> !xgl
[12:55] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper.  ViriiGuy
[12:57] <ViriiGuy> nothing has worked yet
[12:57] <dbernar1> !+bcm43xx
[12:57] <ubotu> To use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.
[12:57] <haGGis> does any 1 know how to get the OSX style menu on this theme metacity
[12:57] <ViriiGuy> amphi yea it is a emachines m6805
[12:57] <ViriiGuy> dbernar1 no what is it?
[12:57] <chirag> i have a problem where my xmms just randomly shuts off while im going through the playlist
[12:57] <mlowe> carfuego comes in a package now ?
[12:57] <chirag> the music is running off of my windows partition
[12:57] <dbernar1> ViriiGuy: You can follow that page. I got my iBook wireless working with it:)
[12:57] <amphi> ViriiGuy: if nothing else works, ralink-based cardbus cards are cheap and have a GPL driver
[12:58] <mtairhead> ok... I got this, erUSUL - - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12353
[12:58] <dbernar1> I used the cafuego package. However, that one may be just for airport extremes. Let's ask
[12:58] <dbernar1> cafuego: ping
[12:58] <amphi> dbernar1: the 'airport' is a broadcom 43xx?
[12:58] <ViriiGuy> I have gone thru that page in the past with no luck
[12:58] <dbernar1> amphi: yes.
[12:58] <ViriiGuy> but I will try it again.
[12:58] <dbernar1> amphi: airport extreme, sorry.
[12:58] <amphi> dbernar1: thanks, could be useful to know
[12:58] <haGGis> does any 1 know how to get the OSX style menu on this theme metacity
[12:58] <ViriiGuy> amphi this is true, but it just kinda defeats the whole purpose for me :D
[12:59] <errpast-hc2> how do I toggle between full screen and not full screen when playing a video clip via Flash plugin.  Breezy 5.1
[12:59] <amphi> ViriiGuy: yeah
[12:59] <ViriiGuy> so far I have everything except my wireless working
[12:59] <erUSUL> mtairhead: is strange your card is recogniced and the right drivers are loaded but you can not play sounds :(
[12:59] <ViriiGuy> and for over a year I have tried it on numerous linux distros
[01:00] <eugman> Anyone here acquainted with the frotz package?
[01:00] <amphi> eugman: yeah ;)
[01:00] <eugman> How do I open a .sav   ?
[01:00] <toxic_> [bash]  how come this expressions yeilds, "0+1+1+1+1" etc rather than 0,1,2,3 .. NUM=${NUM}+1
[01:00] <erUSUL> mtairhead: try this 'sudo udevstart'
[01:00] <amphi> eugman: you're the first person I've seen ask that
[01:00] <eugman> or use it or whatever
[01:00] <mtairhead> :/ That sounds like my luck.. The thing is, I can hear some sounds...System sounds (Startup/shutdown) work fine. Only, I can't stream or play mp3s
[01:00] <bjorn_> void^?
[01:00] <dbernar1> ViriiGuy: well, nothing to lose, then. Install that cafuego package. Then run iwconfig, and tell me what you get(I will be back in 10-15 mins, though, you can try pm, if you are registered.)
[01:00] <mwe> eugman: what's that?
[01:00] <mtairhead> .... ok...trying..
[01:00] <tristanmike> !tell mtairhead about mp3
[01:00] <_paradise_> why is Ununtu trying to install python-vte?
[01:01] <eugman> The save file for infrocom based interactive fiction games.
[01:01] <mlowe> anybody know what package has a program called rl ? (it shuffles lines of text in a file )
[01:01] <_paradise_> why is Ununtu trying to install python-vte? what exactly is python-vte?
[01:01] <EvilDin> HOW to limit upload and download of ubuntu system in general
[01:01] <ViriiGuy> dbernarl ok I will do that now
[01:01] <void^> bjorn_: ?
[01:01] <tristanmike> !tell mtairhead about sources
[01:01] <amphi> eugman: R
[01:01] <bjorn_> void^: I have installed new java
[01:01] <bjorn_> void^: This is my version now
[01:01] <eugman> amphi, my experiance with interactive fiction is limited to the last three or so days. Heck zork is older than I am probably.
[01:01] <bjorn_> void^: gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[01:02] <_paradise_> why is Ununtu trying to install python-vte? what exactly is python-vte?  anmyone help?
[01:02] <bjorn_> void^: One Torrent is now connected, but still doesn't download
[01:02] <mwe> mlowe: randomize-lines
[01:02] <void^> bjorn_: you didn't activate it. i'm sure the wiki covers that; something with update-alternatives
[01:02] <amphi> eugman: heh - anchorhead is quite a good one (if you like Lovecraft)
[01:02] <Tomcat_> !info python-vte
[01:02] <ubotu> python-vte: (Python bindings for the VTE widget set), section universe/python, is optional. Version: 1:0.11.15-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 119 kB, Installed size: 276 kB
[01:02] <bjorn_> void^: Ok, I'll check
[01:02] <void^> bjorn_: or if you did, you may have to reopen the terminal you run azureus from, or relogin
[01:02] <mlowe> mwe, thankyou
[01:03] <braniff> where can i find the package ***kernel-headers-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic*** ??
[01:03] <amphi> eugman: type restore and hit enter, and enter the filename
[01:03] <bjorn_> !java
[01:03] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:03] <mwe> braniff: aren't you looking for linux-headers?
[01:03] <braniff> mwe, maybe that is what i need...
[01:03] <mtairhead> ok... I ran 'sudo udevstart' , put in my pass.... no output
[01:03] <mwe> braniff: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:04] <Klick_> Can anyone help me figure out how to downgrade to xorg <7 i installed dapper and it broke my wacom device, how do i edit my repos to get xorg 6.x instalable
[01:04] <amphi> eugman: FWIW, you can get frotz to build with APE under plan 9 and run it in acme ;)
[01:04] <eobanb> har
[01:04] <eugman> amphi, Perfect! Ok now in english please. heh.
[01:05] <eugman> What is acme?
[01:05] <ViriiGuy> where do I find this cafuego package?
[01:05] <braniff> mwe, thanks
[01:05] <mwe> Klick_: that's completely unsupported
[01:05] <eugman> beside the main supporter of wily e coyote.
[01:05] <bjorn_> void^: java version "1.5.0_06"
[01:05] <void^> better
[01:05] <mwe> Klick_: and it probably wont work
[01:05] <ViriiGuy> !cafuego
[01:05] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ViriiGuy
[01:05] <ohzie> Can I make /dev/hdc point to /media/cdrecorder
[01:05] <ohzie> ?
[01:06] <amphi> eugman: you are familiar with http://wurb.com/if/platform/1
[01:06] <amphi> eugman: ?
[01:06] <eobanb> ohzie, it doesn't work like that
[01:06] <amphi> ohzie: no, you can do it the other waty round
[01:06] <eobanb> ohzie, /dev/hdc is a device node, /media/cdrecorder is (i presume) a mount point
[01:06] <Klick_> mwe, best to delete the whole system an reinstall breezy?
[01:06] <mwe> ohzie: you don't make a device point somewhere. you mount it
[01:06] <eugman> not really.
[01:07] <eugman> was getting the files from a different site.
[01:07] <intelikey> Klick_ it might be possable if you remove xorg then set the repos to breezy and install xorg..... but it's will probably break all kinds of x-apps  idk.
[01:07] <mwe> Klick_: probably. unless you can fix your problem in xorg-7
[01:07] <ohzie> My problem is that cedega is looking for the cd-rom in /dev/hdc
[01:07] <amphi> eugman: url?
[01:07] <ohzie> And the cd-rom is mounted in /media/cdrecorder
[01:07] <eugman> http://ifarchive.heanet.ie/indexes/if-archiveXgamesXzcode.html
[01:07] <amphi> eugman: ta
[01:07] <eugman> I think there was a link mention baf's somewhere along the way however.
[01:07] <Klick_> mwe,  any chance you can help me fix the problem in xorg7?
[01:07] <mwe> Klick_: I don't know. what is it, specifically?
[01:08] <Klick_> wacom driver doesnt load
[01:08] <bjorn_> void^: It connects now, but it still is much slower than in Windows, what can be the problem?
[01:08] <eugman> Yeah a link to baf's guide is on the front page of that site.
[01:08] <errpast-hc2> How to get fullscreen mode for a Flash animation
[01:08] <void^> bjorn_: you restarted several times and didn't give it much time just now and your settings are probably bad and you're probably firewalled :P
[01:09] <mwe> Klick_: I am not familiar with it
[01:09] <Klick_> mwe, ok thanks anyways
[01:09] <mwe> Klick_: maybe someone else is
[01:09] <bjorn_> void^: No, I don't have a firewall, but how do you mean my settings are bad?
[01:10] <tonyyarusso> Any know of a pseudo-graphical cli application (like sysv-rc-conf or aptitude style) for managing users and groups?
[01:10] <obscurite> Hard to believe but after several failed 5.10 server installs I'm burning another disk at 1x speed. I may as well go out and buy a lucky rabbit's foot while I'm at it.
[01:10] <amphi> eugman: I saw an X z-code interpreter FWIW, called zoom IIRC, not that X buys you much ;)
[01:10] <void^> bjorn_: see azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[01:10] <intelikey> how many lines are needed in /etc/apt/sources.list to get all repos ?   2 ?
[01:11] <bjorn_> void^: Ok
[01:11] <mwe> intelikey: you can just add the universe and multivers keywords to the default lines
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Depends what you mean by all repos.
[01:11] <mwe> multiverse*
[01:11] <intelikey> or 3 including sources
[01:12] <mwe> intelikey: you need the securitry, deb and deb-src lines
[01:12] <_paradise_> why is Ununtu trying to install python-vte? what exactly is python-vte?  anmyone help?
[01:12] <intelikey> 1 for main universe and multivers   2 for updates    3 for source packages   ?
[01:12] <_paradise_> anyone?:)
[01:12] <ptlo> _paradise_: python bindings for vte library (vte is the engine for the gnome terminal, a terminal emulator)
[01:13] <_paradise_> ptlo: so why was it never installed before today?
[01:13] <eugman> A bit off topic but why would anyone want a package to compile stuff in brainf*ck ? I mean seriously whats the point?
[01:13] <Alexi5> hello
[01:14] <dbernar1> intelikey: look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11487
[01:14] <ITSa341> Alexi5 HI
[01:14] <obscurite> eugman - because you CAN ;)
[01:14] <amphi> eugman: so they can compile their dvd decryptor? ;)
[01:14] <dbernar1> ptlo: hi.
[01:14] <mwe> intelikey: I have two for main, restricted, universe and multiverse, deb and deb-src. then another two for security, deb and deb-src
[01:15] <dbernar1> ptlo: I'm coming soon:)
[01:15] <Definity> hi
[01:15] <eugman> obscurite, I guess some people get a sense of accomplisment in writing a calculator in an absurdly difficult language.
[01:15] <kicker> how can I know wich flash player version I have installed?
[01:15] <intelikey> so it would take 4 lines to add all repos then     correct ?
[01:15] <amphi> eugman: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS/Gallery/css-brainfuck.txt
[01:15] <Alexi5> i was thinking of using oracle on ubuntu for a databse server at work. is it ok to that with ubuntu?
[01:15] <kicker> *which
[01:16] <dbernar1> intelikey: look at that post:-/
[01:16] <ptlo> dbernar1: heya...where? :)
[01:16] <mwe> intelikey: yeah I think so
[01:16] <intelikey> cause i forgot security  & update  were seperate
[01:16] <intelikey> dbernar1 i did look at it.
[01:16] <erUSUL> Alexi5: why not run Postgres for free? (if you must you can run oracle in linux)
[01:17] <eugman> sweet, jebus!
[01:17] <mwe> intelikey: that is all repos as in main, restricted, universe and multiverse including security
[01:17] <dbernar1> ptlo: First I am coming to Sarajevo on 15.5. 'til 03.06. Then from there on, I will be in Zagreb.
[01:17] <dbernar1> intelikey: Well, that should explain everything.
[01:17] <Alexi5> erUSUL:whats wrong with oracle
[01:17] <ptlo> dbernar1: cool! we should meet up, have a beer :-)
[01:17] <obscurite> amphi - amazing :D
[01:17] <dbernar1> ptlo: totally.
[01:18] <intelikey> mwe   yes.    wasn't counting backports or plf as they are "non-official" so to speak.
[01:18] <amphi> obscurite: I haven't tried it ;) the perl ones are good examples for people who think perl is a 'write-only' language
[01:19] <erUSUL> Alexi5: is not free/libre software 8^P and it cost a "few"  too...
[01:19] <ViriiGuy> /msg dbernar1 this is my iwconfig.......
[01:19] <ViriiGuy> lo        no wireless extensions.
[01:19] <ViriiGuy> eth1      no wireless extensions.
[01:19] <ViriiGuy> eth0      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306"
[01:19] <ViriiGuy>           Mode:Managed  Frequency=2.437 GHz  Access Point: Invalid
[01:19] <ViriiGuy>           Bit Rate=11 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm
[01:19] <ViriiGuy>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[01:19] <ViriiGuy> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[01:19] <ViriiGuy> opps :D
[01:19] <mwe> ViriiGuy: don't do that
[01:19] <intelikey> !flood
[01:19] <ubotu> well, flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[01:19] <eugman> hey amphi, what's a good one to start with for getting a hang of if?
[01:19] <ViriiGuy> sorry about that
[01:19] <dbernar1> :) So, it us there:)
[01:19] <dbernar1> ViriiGuy: /j #dabar
[01:20] <dbernar1> ptlo: it's me, dabar, btw:)
[01:20] <ptlo> dbernar1: yeah, i've guessed it :)
[01:21] <amphi> eugman: anchorhead has both a general and a game-specific tutorial
[01:22] <amphi> eugman: just type 'help' at the prompt and it'll give you a menu
[01:23] <eugman> k
[01:23] <errpast-hc2> I'm unsuccessfully trying to play an embedded video from a web page.  I get an error about "totem and fd0"  Strange thing is that 1 hour ago, this video played fine
[01:24] <LinuxNoob|Scott> sup all
[01:24] <errpast-hc2> When it played fine, I think it was playing via a Flash Plugin.  Because when I first linked to it, about 2 hours ago, Mozilla requested I install the plugin
[01:24] <LinuxNoob|Scott> im givin up on ubuntu, going to try fedora (even tho I dont like it, a friend is going to use it and I said I would try it)
[01:24] <errpast-hc2> Not sure how to troubleshoot
[01:24] <LinuxNoob|Scott> if that sucks, im going to suse
[01:25] <jbroome> LinuxNoob|Scott: you'll be back
[01:25] <LinuxNoob|Scott> not sure about that
[01:25] <obscurite> LinuxNoob|Scott - what didn't you like?
[01:25] <errpast-hc2> about:plugins in Mozilla shows both Flash and totem installed
[01:25] <LinuxNoob|Scott> been hell getting some stuff working
[01:25] <eugman> errpast, have you considered using mozilla-mplayer instead?
[01:25] <obscurite> LinuxNoob|Scott - like what?
[01:25] <LinuxNoob|Scott> getting skype workin, getting my usb drive working, getting my dvd burner working
[01:25] <LinuxNoob|Scott> today is only my first day though.
[01:25] <errpast-hc2> eugman, thanks for suggestion. would I just apt-get install mozilla-mplayer?
[01:26] <LinuxNoob|Scott> first day off XP
[01:26] <LinuxNoob|Scott> i might come back
[01:26] <obscurite> LinuxNoob|Scott - Dapper will be out shortly with a newer kernel too
[01:26] <LinuxNoob|Scott> i like the look and feel of it
[01:26] <immolo> LinuxNoob|Scott, some advice fedora is worse
[01:26] <obscurite> LinuxNoob|Scott - i agree, fedora is tougher to get right
[01:26] <LinuxNoob|Scott> I really want to do Suse, about 8 guys in our engineering department at work use it.
[01:26] <guy7595> hi can some one help me install some deb files
[01:26] <LinuxNoob|Scott> they seem to like the ease of use and very compatible with everything
[01:26] <obscurite> Suse has a good reputation for just working
[01:26] <LinuxNoob|Scott> yeah.
[01:27] <LinuxNoob|Scott> Thats what I want...but my friend suggested I try Fedora Core 5
[01:27] <eugman> erpast-hc2, I forget if there is a " 368" or something after that so you should us a * at the end or use synaptic.
[01:27] <LinuxNoob|Scott> ick... anything RedHat just says (noob) all over it.
[01:27] <disasm> sweet, ubuntu breezy raid5 on / and /var working like a charm!!!
[01:27] <LinuxNoob|Scott> even tho im a linux noob
[01:27] <LinuxNoob|Scott> i dont want an os that gives that impression
[01:27] <intelikey> dbernar1 is there no deb-src  for -security or -updates    universe multiverse   ?
[01:27] <obscurite> LinuxNoob|Scott - I used redhat for years, but fedora kind of turned me off
[01:27] <LinuxNoob|Scott> redhat doesnt look as good on a resume as debian does
[01:27] <slavik> !backports
[01:27] <ubotu> backports is, like, totally, Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[01:27] <obscurite> LinuxNoob|Scott - it doesn't have the kind of community Ubuntu seems to have
[01:28] <guy7595> hi can some one help me install some deb files
[01:28] <immolo> LinuxNoob|Scott, If I was you I would either pick gentoo or ubuntu and seeings as it's your first day off win32 I would make ubuntu work, give it a week and you willl wonder why you wanted to switch
[01:28] <LinuxNoob|Scott> whats that, fedora or suse
[01:28] <errpast-hc2> eugman, thanks, will try.  If I do successully install it, do I have to do something to tell Mozilla to use X program to open video files?  How will Mozilla know what to use?
[01:28] <LinuxNoob|Scott> well, i was having problems finding people here to help me, and I hate reading manuals  (i know its kind of my fault) but I know lots of people on suse that can fix my stuff in no time
[01:28] <LinuxNoob|Scott> if i need help
[01:28] <LinuxNoob|Scott> i have it
[01:29] <intelikey> guy7595 enable the repos and use synaptic.   if you "MUST" install a .deb you download   sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[01:29] <LinuxNoob|Scott> I apppreciate all the help I got here today though, thanks again guys!
[01:29] <LinuxNoob|Scott> you all rock
[01:29] <obscurite> LinuxNoob|Scott - if everyone at work uses Suse, then go for it. You can also dual-boot and do a side by side comparison
[01:29] <LinuxNoob|Scott> yeah
[01:29] <dbernar1> intelikey: where, on my page? It has, it is all commented out, cause I never use sources.
[01:29] <LinuxNoob|Scott> im going to use vmware
[01:29] <LinuxNoob|Scott> if it works on linux
[01:29] <bur[n] er> as long as it's not windows or os x:)
[01:29] <LinuxNoob|Scott> you know osx is BSD
[01:29] <obscurite> LinuxNoob|Scott - you can install vmware on suse, i think suse is supported
[01:29] <LinuxNoob|Scott> THX cya
[01:29] <eugman> errpast-hc2, hmm I don't know hwo to help with that. Give it a try first because it might just work without any extra help.
[01:30] <intelikey> dbernar1 would you show me the line please ?
[01:30] <immolo> osx was BSD :P
[01:30] <obscurite> OSX is not BSD. It's similar to freebsd.
[01:30] <guy7595> is there a commmand to install xtux-client_0.2.030306-7_i386.deb;xtux-common_0.2.030306-7_all.deb;xtux-levels_0.2.030306-7_all.deb;xtux-server_0.2.030306-7_i386.deb all of them at the same time? if not can someone tell me how to set them up seprately?
[01:30] <LinuxNoob|Scott> AIM: sdveirs  -  Yahoo: VeirsScott
[01:30] <LinuxNoob|Scott> cya
[01:30] <obscurite> But then again what do I know (nothing).
[01:31] <dbernar1> intelikey: join #dabar
[01:31] <flodine> has anyone used kdocksmooth in gnome and does it work ok
[01:31] <errpast-hc2> eugman, thanks.  Will do.  Appreciate your help
[01:32] <jinho326> Hi has anyone had any problems with ubuntu after installing the ATI drivers from ATI?
[01:32] <intelikey> no  nm.     but thanks anyway .
[01:32] <amphi> obscurite: AFAIK it's bits of various BSDs running as a monolithic task on top of a mach microkernel, ghod knows why
[01:32] <bur[n] er> flodine: there's a gdesklet that accomplishes something similar
[01:32] <jinho326> after installing and restarting my ubuntu screen is all messed up
[01:32] <jinho326> and my keyboard isnt even recognized
[01:33] <guy7595> is there a commmand to file1.deb;file2.deb;file3.deb all of them at the same time? if not can someone tell me how to set them up seprately?
[01:33] <bur[n] er> jinho326: i'm guessing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is all f'd up :)
[01:33] <flodine> bur[n] er yeah but it look weak
[01:33] <dbernar1> intelikey: OK.
[01:33] <bur[n] er> flodine: you can do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and that might work
[01:33] <jinho326> bur[n] er: no doubt
[01:33] <amphi> guy7595: to install them you mean?
[01:33] <guy7595> to install those
[01:33] <guy7595> yeah
[01:33] <erUSUL> guy7595: if you have all the debs in a dir you can run ls *.deb | xargs sudo dpkg -i
[01:33] <jinho326> bur[n] er: I tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in recovery mode in the shell
[01:33] <bur[n] er> guy7595: put them in a directory... sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[01:33] <flodine> bur[n] er how is that gloing to help gdesklets
[01:33] <jinho326> bur[n] er: and had no luck
[01:34] <amphi> guy7595: for i in *.deb; do dpkg -i $i; done will install all .deb files in the current directory
[01:34] <guy7595> THX GUYS !!!
[01:34] <bur[n] er> jinho326: pick different settings till it works :)  and use a basic ati or radeon driver instead of fglrx
[01:34] <intelikey> dbernar1 i only asked if they existed because they are not mentioned in your post at all.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11487
[01:34] <bur[n] er> jinho326: why not use the .deb for the ATI drivers?
[01:34] <jinho326> bur[n] er: is there anyway to get rid of the ati drivers?
[01:34] <bur[n] er> jinho326: no idea... i use .deb packages ;)
[01:34] <intelikey> but like i said never mind.
[01:34] <dbernar1> intelikey: if you join #dabar, we can go through each of the lines, and see.
[01:34] <jinho326> bur[n] er: well...I dont know how to get stuff to work...I'm a total noob
[01:35] <bjorn_> void^: Ok thanks for your help
[01:35] <jinho326> bur[n] er: do I do the sudo apt-get install command?
[01:35] <bur[n] er> jinho326: did you go off the wiki page to install them?
[01:35] <bur[n] er> jinho326: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriversHowTo/ATI
[01:35] <jinho326> bur[n] er: o...i followed the ati instructions
[01:36] <bur[n] er> there's yer first problem ;)
[01:36] <bur[n] er> i gave you teh wrong link... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI is correct
[01:37] <jinho326> bur[n] er: wow...even ATI can't get it right...
[01:38] <bur[n] er> ATI frustrates me with non-open drivers :\
[01:38] <intelikey> jinho326 this is linux, where there is your way my way and probably a better way.   :)
[01:38] <bur[n] er> Nvidia does as well for the same reason ;)
[01:38] <bur[n] er> ubuntu gets the way pretty well though intelikey
[01:38] <kh40s> anyone have experience with toshset utility?
[01:39] <jinho326> intelikey: no doubt, forgive me I'm a recent convert from windows...I'm still new to the truth :-)
[01:39] <djuanmartinez> hi
[01:39] <bur[n] er> hola
[01:39] <kh40s> hello
[01:39] <djuanmartinez> I would like to know somebody can help me
[01:39] <jinho326> thanks bur[n] er, I'm gonna give this a shot
[01:39] <jinho326> wish me luck
[01:39] <bur[n] er> djuanmartinez: ask a question, i'm sure someone can :)
[01:40] <djuanmartinez> nice
[01:40] <djuanmartinez> I new user of Linux
[01:40] <dbernar1> I use GNU
[01:40] <djuanmartinez> I don't know why Mozilla browser cannot open some pages
[01:41] <dli> djuanmartinez, example?
[01:41] <djuanmartinez> like chats
[01:41] <bur[n] er> djuanmartinez: can we assume Mozilla Firefox?
[01:41] <bur[n] er> djuanmartinez: URL?
[01:41] <intelikey> bur[n] er that was kinda my point it's not "the way"  it's  "a way"    a good way, i suppose but not the "only way"  or the "right way"   the right way is any way the owner is satisfied to get to the end result.
[01:41] <djuanmartinez> www.uol.com.br/bp
[01:42] <djuanmartinez> is there any optino that I must to set?
[01:42] <iceman> Cool, devoting one pc to linux ..... PIII 733  ...256 meg ram ... 13.5 gig hdd ....
[01:43] <flippermorg> hey
[01:43] <flippermorg> i cant instal any thing on mi linux ubuntu
[01:43] <kh40s> anyone know about multiple screens config for a laptop?
[01:43] <iceman> or do i devote a AMD athlon 700 for linux ?
[01:44] <intelikey> mozilla-browser - The Mozilla Internet application suite - core and browser   <--- is that firefox ?
[01:44] <dli> djuanmartinez, javascript
[01:44] <bur[n] er> djuanmartinez: i do not see the chat... sorry
[01:44] <intelikey> or the old mozilla ?
[01:44] <bur[n] er> intelikey: no
[01:44] <obscurite> kh40s - which graphics chipset?
[01:44] <Warbo> flippermorg: Are you using graphical or command line?
[01:44] <dli> djuanmartinez, javascript only page is silly or even evil
[01:44] <kh40s> nvidia 440 go
[01:44] <bur[n] er> flippermorg: how are you trying to do it? :)
[01:45] <intelikey> bur[n] er hmmmm good i'll try it then.
[01:45] <obscurite> kh40s - someone gave me this nice xinerama link earlier: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO/index.html
[01:45] <flippermorg> well i try just to run but it dosnt work and the a run it in the terminal but i dosent wokt ether
[01:45] <iceman> boy got AMD or Intel for a Linux box ...
[01:45] <flippermorg> im trying to instal limerwire
[01:46] <kh40s> obscurite: did you use the -configure option while starting gdm?
[01:46] <bur[n] er> iceman: the one with the nvidia graphics card
[01:46] <Warbo> flippermorg: If you want Limewire I recommend searching on apt-get.org and adding the line that begins with "deb" to the "repositories" in synaptic (add a custom one)
[01:46] <obscurite> kh40s - i'm only using one display right now actually
[01:46] <flippermorg> oki
[01:46] <iceman> bur[n] er could put nidia in either ...
[01:46] <slavik> anjuta 2 is not ready
[01:47] <iceman> got several ati cards i can use in the athlon
[01:48] <david_> hi all
[01:48] <kh40s> obscurite: The problem is strange... I can get each monitor working just fine independently, but when I try to enable them both simultaneously, it fails
[01:48] <flippermorg> were do i got on apt-get.org
[01:48] <speedie> does anyone know where I can find some info on configuring oracle with apache for ssl?
[01:48] <Drac[Server] > I successfully installed the nvidia legacy drivers for my 32MB GeForce 2 card, but I'm only getting 400FPS out of it. Is this typical of such a card, or what?
[01:48] <Warbo> flippermorg: hang on, I'll try to find one for you
[01:48] <flippermorg> ok
[01:48] <david_> does anyone know where I can find a driver for a lexmark P4350 for ubuntu?
[01:49] <obscurite> kh40s - yeah, dual monitors seems to be the darkest kind of linux black magic. Wish I could help but I'm pretty useless on this topic.
[01:49] <Drac[Server] > david_, while it's possible that you might find one after weeks of searching, I would really recommend that you sell your Lexmark and purchase a better quality, linux-compatible printer.
[01:49] <kh40s> obscurite: ok.. thanks for trying
[01:49] <mirak> does anyone have TV out working with Xorg and ATI drivers ?
[01:49] <mirak> on dapper
[01:50] <flippermorg> on my other comp i got ati
[01:50] <jadaz87> !dapper
[01:50] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[01:50] <jadaz87> is there a way to get tv out working on breezy?
[01:50] <Drac[Server] > mirak, I've never had any success with ATI drivers and video out. It seems that it's not supported, or something.
[01:50] <mirak> flippermorg: I got one on my tamagochi
[01:50] <kaitlyn> Hello all, I was wondering if there is a boot option on the Ubuntu 5.10 Live CD x86 to start in runlevel 3?  (Itried live 3, but that didn't work).
[01:50] <flippermorg> like it?
[01:51] <Warbo> flippermorg: OK, go into Synaptic, go on "Settings" menu, "repositories"
[01:51] <mirak> Drac[Server] : I remember having it working in July
[01:51] <david_> Drac, is there no possibility of finding a driver then? as i'd prefer to keep the lexmark?
[01:51] <Drac[Server] > mirak, really? Lucky... I never got it to work...
[01:51] <flippermorg> were is synaptic
[01:51] <intelikey> oh yeah,  i forgot i did try mozilla-browser   the package has a bug.    it returns this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d12358
[01:51] <mirak> well I installed following that procedure : ---> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Installing_Dapper.27s_Included_Driver_.2<IP_ADDRESS>
[01:52] <Warbo> System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[01:52] <erUSUL> kaitlyn: in debian/ubuntu all runlevels are equal afaik (except 0 and 6 of course)
[01:52] <mirak> the joke is that now there is not even a TV OUT control showing on the control panel
[01:52] <sophie^> Warbo: dpkg
[01:52] <dli> kaitlyn, "single"
[01:52] <intelikey> hehhe now i have to edit the install/remove scripts to remove it.....
[01:52] <flippermorg> ok
[01:52] <mirak> the drivers have lost TV out
[01:52] <jadaz87> mirak does it work on breezy?
[01:52] <dli> kaitlyn, where did you get the runlevel 3 thing?
[01:53] <mythicness> hi guys
[01:53] <Drac[Server] > david_, you ought to ask around about Lexmark's quality and reconsider what you just said. Regardless, there are few Lexmark drivers out there. Like I said, it's possible that somebody might have developed one, but since Lexmark only recently started releasing open source drivers, you're probably not going to find one very easily.
[01:53] <mirak> jadaz87: I don't know I used it only in october
[01:53] <Warbo> flippermorg: On settings -> repositories click "Add"
[01:53] <refnumzx> having problems with an install did a server install have dsl and two NIC eth0 and eth1 ran pppoeconf and i don't have an ip address /etc/network/interfaces looks good
[01:53] <flippermorg> ok
[01:53] <kaitlyn> Thanks dli, and erUSUL.  :)
[01:53] <flippermorg> after
[01:53] <mirak> jadaz87: at laest it was working. I think the switch to xorg killed everything
[01:53] <kaitlyn> dli: On redhat I used to use <kernel> 1.
[01:53] <mirak> or the ati update
[01:53] <mythicness> Could anyone help me please
[01:53] <mythicness> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/58814-make-modules-failing-no-rule-make-target-mismatched-versions.html#post317678
[01:53] <mirak> don't know
[01:53] <Warbo> Then go custom and put in this "deb http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free restricted" without the quotes
[01:53] <mythicness> That explains my problem
[01:53] <jadaz87> mirak what did you do to enable it just plug in the tvout port on your laptop?
[01:54] <mirak> jadaz87: it's a desktop computer
[01:54] <jadaz87> mirak or are you talking about a desktop
[01:54] <mirak> jadaz87: that's a tower
[01:54] <jadaz87> mirak oh ok why did they switch from xorg ?
[01:54] <mythicness> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/msr.c', needed by `arch/i386/kernel/msr.o'. Stop.
[01:54] <mirak> with a radeon 9600
[01:54] <david_> Drac[Server] : okay thanks anyways, will have a look around.... what brand of printers do have linux support?
[01:55] <flippermorg> what exacle do i write
[01:55] <Warbo> flippermorg: Then add it and get back to the main synaptic window and click "Reload", then wait!
[01:55] <Warbo> Oh
[01:55] <mythicness> make modules generates that error, can anyone give me some help?
[01:55] <mirak> jadaz87: xorg is the linux server now. They forked from Xfree
[01:55] <Warbo> Just copy the line I put
[01:55] <intelikey> kaitlyn runlevels 2-5 are all equal in ubuntu.    if you are wanting  non-X mode you need single   runlevel 1
[01:55] <dli> mythicness, is this #ubuntu?
[01:55] <donr> Does anyone know what could cause wpa_supplicant to connect, disconnect, ... about every 10 sec?
[01:55] <gwkw> ya..
[01:55] <Warbo> flippermorg: deb http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free restricted
[01:55] <gwkw> hi all
[01:55] <mythicness> I am running Ubuntu yes
[01:55] <intelikey> DeMoNSeED http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d12358
[01:56] <dli> mythicness, then, you don't need "make modules"
[01:56] <mythicness> i am following this article: http://www.abarbaccia.com/content/view/18/33/
[01:56] <dli> mythicness, get kernel source, (by apt or from kernel.org)
[01:56] <intelikey> DeMoNSeED it's a bug in the installer.    5.4
[01:56] <gwkw> got a question..  about the error in synaptic package manager (completely noob)
[01:56] <gwkw> E: ttf-baekmuk: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[01:56] <gwkw> E: ubuntu-desktop: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[01:57] <gwkw> anyone can help would be appreciated =>
[01:57] <dli> mythicness, don't follow it, "make modules" is not the ubuntu way
[01:57] <flippermorg> ok
[01:57] <mythicness> heh - so i've learnt
[01:57] <Warbo> gwkw: ubuntu-desktop doesn't do anything, it just depends on other programs for you. Common desktop ones
[01:57] <mythicness> ok well any idea's how else i can get lirc going on my system ?
[01:57] <dli> mythicness, since you are making silly mistakes, restart, follow the debian way
[01:57] <intelikey> DeMoNSeED s/installer/postinst.sh and postrm.sh scripts/
[01:57] <flippermorg> ok
[01:57] <Warbo> gwkw: You will still want to get that fixed but it's not major :)
[01:58] <gwkw> warbo : dont get it.. do you have a baby language version of that?
[01:58] <flippermorg> ok
[01:58] <Warbo> flippermorg: OK, click add, then OK, then reload
[01:58] <dieterluypaert> hello
[01:58] <dli> mythicness, and you still want to build your kernel ?
[01:58] <flippermorg> ok
[01:58] <gwkw> warbo: but i cant install anything at the moment..
[01:58] <refnumzx> i need to reconfigure the network on  server install how can i do this
[01:58] <mythicness> dli: i dont want to, i just thought there would be no other way
[01:58] <Drac[Server] > I successfully installed the nvidia legacy drivers for my 32MB GeForce 2 card, but I'm only getting 400FPS out of it. Is this typical of such a card, or what?
[01:58] <Warbo> So has it reloaded it's lists of packages (got a downloading window thing)
[01:58] <intelikey> DeMoNSeED no synaptic here.
[01:58] <darkgamer20> I did a fresh install of breezy (5.10) and when the configuration is all the xorg dosen't seem to be starting. my video card is an nvidia tnt2 m64 can someone tell me whats wrong?
[01:58] <mythicness> dli: If I run the lirc install and i select driver config it throws this error: ./lirc-0.8.0/setup.sh: line 268: ./setup-driver.sh: No such file or directory
[01:58] <gwkw> warbo: ya..
[01:58] <mythicness> is that unrelated?
[01:58] <gwkw> but just cant install
[01:59] <amphi> gwkw: the meta-package ubuntu-desktop is not installing because it depends on the ttf-baekmuk package, which is giving an error
[01:59] <gwkw> amphi: ya. how can i get rid of it?
[01:59] <flippermorg> it has
[01:59] <jadaz87> mirak what is wrong with xfree?
[02:00] <david_> im a complete beginner at ubuntu/linux, first time installation today...... i was wondering if someone could help me install FireFox 1.5 as I cant seem to work it out?
[02:00] <flippermorg> xfire
[02:00] <devnull_> hello
[02:00] <dli> mythicness, no, I suggest to you read the basic ubuntu how, use synaptic or apt to install packages
[02:00] <Warbo> flippermorg: It will come up an "error" when you reload, as it can't verify the new repository, but you can forget about it
[02:00] <Lance_L> xserve
[02:00] <mythicness> ok ill try that
[02:00] <mirak> jadaz87: don't know
[02:00] <MTecknology> Does anybody know of a linux program that I can use to call somebody with cable internet and type what i want to say to them?
[02:00] <flippermorg> warbo:ok
[02:00] <Warbo> flippermorg: Go on search and put it limewire
[02:00] <mirak> jadaz87: tensions
[02:00] <mythicness> thanks dli
[02:00] <amphi> gwkw: dunno, try reinstalling ttf-baekmuk, and if it works, install ubuntu-desktop
[02:00] <intelikey> DeMoNSeED you are sujesting that the bug has been fixed ?   ok i'll try it.
[02:00] <darkgamer20> I did a fresh install of 5.10 and when the configuration is all done xorg dosen't seem to be starting. my video card is an nvidia tnt2 m64 can someone tell me whats wrong?
[02:00] <devnull_> i am having issues with my wireless networking ... i had wireless up and running with ndiswrapper when i was using ubuntu amd64 but i switched back to 32bit with a standard ubuntu kernel and can't get my wireless working
[02:00] <Drac[Server] > Can somebody please give me a quick answer? I have to go in just a moment.
[02:00] <mirak> jadaz87: xfree was not only used for linux
[02:00] <flippermorg> ok
[02:00] <dli> MTecknology, skype (not free, but free of charge for pc to pc)
[02:01] <gwkw> amphi: ok.. thanks..  i will go google for installing ubuntu-desktop
[02:01] <gwkw> thanks warbo too!! :)
[02:01] <dli> MTecknology, ediga (gnomemeeting)
[02:01] <amphi> gwkw: you need to find why ttf-baekmuk won't install
[02:01] <Warbo> flippermorg: Hang on, I'm doing it myself but cant find limewire :)
[02:01] <obscurite> I have a KVM hooked up to two breezy boxes, and occasionally the console gets vertically stretched out. any one have an ideas?
[02:01] <flippermorg> search it in home
[02:01] <jadaz87> mirak does xorg even have a website?
[02:01] <iceman> anyone done dual displays with ubuntu
[02:01] <dli> jadaz87, x.org
[02:02] <Warbo> flippermorg: Basically there should now be a package called "limewire-free-binary"
[02:02] <mirak> jadaz87: yes
[02:02] <intelikey> DeMoNSeED yeah i'll prolly be here.
[02:02] <flippermorg> limewire.xml
[02:02] <david_> anyone care to help me install FireFox 1.5 , im completely new to ubuntu/linux?
[02:02] <gwkw> just one more thing.. to anyone.. we type the 'sudo' code in terminal right?
[02:02] <jinho> bur[n] er: thank you, the link fixed it
[02:02] <Drac[Server] > Hell. I'd have better luck in the hardware channel at this rate. Bleh.
[02:03] <Drac[Server] > Off I go.
[02:03] <iceman> Anyone know if you can run dual displays in ubuntu ... ?
[02:03] <larsson_> hi
[02:03] <dli> david_, I think firefox 1.5 is in dapper
[02:03] <stunned> don't use it, use galeon
[02:03] <obscurite> david_ - go to System -> Administration -> Add Applications
[02:03] <jinho> speaking of firefox, does anyone know why it seems like I dont have full privileges on firefox? I can't find any option or preference button
[02:03] <gwkw> and when we they are asking ' are you root?' how should i reply? : I am root?
[02:03] <Warbo> flippermorg: Sorry, Apt-Get.org said it was there but they've removed it :(
[02:03] <flippermorg> ok
[02:03] <mythicness> aah ok found the problem
[02:04] <gwkw> i tried that.. it doest work..
[02:04] <dli> jinho, Edit -> Preference
[02:04] <david_> obscurite, will have a go thanks :)
[02:04] <flippermorg> so wa do i do
[02:04] <mythicness> looks like 0.8 lirc doesnt work with ubuntu
[02:04] <XJ> Where is cookies and temporary internet files?
[02:04] <Warbo> flippermorg: No worries, go back into repositories and get rid of the "debian-unofficial" bit
[02:04] <obscurite> david_ - firefox is under Internet > More Programs I think
[02:04] <mythicness> synaptic dl/ed 0.7 and its working 100% :D
[02:04] <jinho> dli: ah hmm lol how embarassing
[02:04] <mythicness> awesome - thanks dli
[02:04] <jinho> dli: thank you so much though
[02:04] <flippermorg> 0k
[02:05] <Warbo> flippermorg: Then reload
[02:05] <MTecknology> dli, does gnomemeeting call people (phone)
[02:05] <Warbo> flippermorg: What do you have at the moment? Have you downloaded a zip file of limewire?
[02:05] <XJ> Where is temporary internet junk, and cookies?
[02:05] <dli> MTecknology, skype does that, and you have to pay
[02:05] <david_> obscurite, right, i already have firefox installed, and am using it... but it is not the most up to date version (1.5) how do i go about installing it please?
[02:05] <MTecknology> dli, do you know any free alternatives?
[02:05] <flippermorg> yup but i unzipped it
[02:06] <Hexidigital> !tell david_ about firefox
[02:06] <XJ> Can any body help?
[02:06] <Warbo> flippermorg: OK, you need Java. In Synaptic search for java
[02:06] <devnull_> so are there any other ubuntu channels ?
[02:06] <Hexidigital> devnull_, #ubuntu+1 is for Dapper
[02:06] <jadaz87> stunned galeon is better than what?
[02:06] <iceman> wonder if Nvidia and a ATI will work for dual displays
[02:06] <flippermorg> warbo:ok
[02:07] <simonpca> a+, j'y vais
[02:07] <[Chameleon] > MTecknology: gnomemeeting was renamed to "Ekiga Softphone" and it uses ekiga.net, a free SIP service.
[02:07] <[Chameleon] > MTecknology: Ekiga is in Dapper Drake
[02:07] <intelikey> XJ it depends on the browser.   look in .mozilla*
[02:07] <XJ> How can I find temporary internet files and cookies please
[02:07] <XJ> oh
[02:07] <XJ> er
[02:07] <Warbo> flippermorg: You basically want to do everything through Synaptic. Then it SHOULD work, and also everything will get updated. Anyway...
[02:07] <XJ> Firefox
[02:07] <gwkw> huray.!! mp3 is working! thanks!!
[02:07] <obscurite> david_ - in firefox try Help -> Check for Updates
[02:07] <XJ> where is .mozilla?
[02:07] <stunned> MIT must bring those crankies to africa
[02:07] <amphi> XJ: ~
[02:07] <Hexidigital> !tell david_ about firefox1.5
[02:07] <MTecknology> [Chameleon] , is dapper stable yet?
[02:08] <flippermorg> ok
[02:08] <obscurite> david_ - in firefox try Help -> Check for Updates
[02:08] <[Chameleon] > MTecknology: stable enough for me
[02:08] <intelikey> XJ i just told you look in  ~/.mozilla*
[02:08] <Warbo> flippermorg: In the search results for java go down to J and tell me what's there
[02:08] <MTecknology> [Chameleon] , ... how long till it's out?
[02:08] <XJ> oh
[02:08] <XJ> you just said .mozilla, was not sure where that was
[02:08] <Warbo> flippermorg: There should be j2re1.4
[02:08] <[Chameleon] > MTecknology: I forgot... check the website.
[02:08] <david_> obscurite, there doesnt seem to be a Check for Updates option?
[02:08] <obscurite> david_ -> must be in the newer version, sorry
[02:09] <XJ> There is no .mozilla in home folder
[02:09] <ompaul> XJ, great questions they all (.mozilla and .mozilla-firefox) live in your home directory /home/your_usersname/.
[02:09] <iceman> there a how to for dual displays in linux "ubuntu"
[02:09] <intelikey> open a terminal and type   ls .mozilla*
[02:09] <flippermorg> warbo:nope dont have that
[02:09] <obscurite> david_ - I honestly don't remember how I updated my firefox
[02:09] <Steil> Does anyone know of a good NES emulator that supports joysticks?
[02:09] <intelikey> DeMoNSeED still dl`ing.   dialup  ;/
[02:09] <[Chameleon] > iceman: I used a good one... let me see if I can dig it up.
[02:09] <DeMoNSeED> k
[02:10] <XJ> ls .mozilla returns
[02:10] <XJ> appreg  firefox  mozver.dat  pluginreg.dat  plugins
[02:10] <stunned> DeMoNSeED: you are dead
[02:10] <XJ> ?
[02:10] <Warbo> flippermorg: This is in synaptic yes? Go into the repositories again :) I know what's wrong!
[02:10] <XJ> what does that mean?
[02:10] <XJ> And why must .mozilla be in home, if it is not in home?
[02:10] <flippermorg> ok
[02:10] <kh40s> who wants to help me get my firewire dvd burner working?
[02:10] <ompaul> XJ and the firefox subdirectory
[02:11] <XJ> ompaul????
[02:11] <david_> anyone else know how to update firefox 1.0.7 to 1.5?
[02:11] <Warbo> flippermorg: Go on add and it should say something like "Breezy Badger 5.10" or something.
[02:11] <ompaul> XJ, the filesystem has logic to it, that is your personal stuff in your home directory
[02:11] <dli> david_, I suppose upgrading to dapper :(
[02:11] <Hexidigital> david_ there's a wiki walkthrough
[02:11] <Hexidigital> !ff1.5
[02:11] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:11] <ompaul> XJ, it is the way linux works :)
[02:11] <flippermorg> yup
[02:11] <XJ> ompaul: Someone said there is .mozilla in ther!
[02:11] <stunned> gawd whan is my ubuntu download going to finish
[02:11] <XJ> Christ!
[02:11] <ompaul> XJ,  I do
[02:11] <stunned> do
[02:11] <intelikey> hmmm in fact this irc client is eating most of my "band-narrowness"   so i'll be back when i've tried this, DeMoNSeED
[02:11] <Warbo> flippermorg: If the "universe" and "multiverse" (community maintained, non-free, etc) are not checked then check them
[02:11] <stunned> green
[02:12] <XJ> There is no .mozilla in there!
[02:12] <__mikem> Thou shalt not use thi name in vein
[02:12] <XJ> where is it?
[02:12] <david_> thats great thanks hexidigital
[02:12] <[Chameleon] > XJ: Windows XP works the same way actually... It stores user settings in hidden folders under the user's Documents and Settings dir. same concept really.
[02:12] <DeMoNSeED> k
[02:12] <__mikem> oh what do I care, living a christian life got me nowhere in the end
[02:12] <dli> XJ, cd ~/.mozilla
[02:12] <Hexidigital> david_ no problem
[02:12] <darkgamer20> I just did a fresh install of ubuntu 5.10 and after the installer rebooted and finished configuring the system it tried to start xorg but its is just sitting there and i cannot go into any terminal to issue any commands. after reaserching I found out that my video is supported by the nvidia-legacy package but how do i install that if i can't type anything? can someone please please please help me?
[02:12] <XJ> XJ: So the .mozilla is hidden?
[02:12] <Warbo> flippermorg: Go OK and reload. (this is the first thing I do on Ubuntu, so no wonder I assumed they were on!)
[02:12] <XJ> I open it in console to see hidden files?
[02:12] <iceman> wonder if ati and nvidia will play well for a dual display .... one nvidia pci card ... ati agp card ...
[02:13] <slavik> __mikem: would you care to become a satanist today?
[02:13] <amphi> XJ: by default, ls does not display files and directories beginning with .
[02:13] <Hexidigital> david_ copy and paste the commands... if you mistype, you can really mess it up
[02:13] <flippermorg> ok
[02:13] <[Chameleon] > iceman: http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0150048402/linux/Multiple_Nvidia_Multiple_Head.html
[02:13] <iceman> ty
[02:13] <__mikem> slavik, lol no not really, I aint going polar yet
[02:13] <slavik> XJ: in nautilus press Ctrl+H
[02:13] <david_> okay thanks again hexidigital :)
[02:13] <flippermorg> W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org sarge Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D5642BC86823D007
[02:13] <Hexidigital> :)
[02:13] <XJ> I was already in .mozilla in console
[02:13] <slavik> it will show all hidden folders
[02:13] <XJ> okie
[02:13] <XJ> Oh my...
[02:13] <slavik> in case you ever want to use a gui
[02:13] <darkgamer20> please guys can someone please help me with my video card problem?
[02:13] <amphi> XJ: ls -a will show 'hidden' stuff
[02:14] <slavik> yes, that too
[02:14] <Warbo> flippermorg: OK, in the repositories you need to remove the "debian-unofficial". This isn't important, but it stops the annoying message!
[02:14] <slavik> I tried to install anjuta ...
[02:14] <slavik> it is teh sux
[02:14] <iceman> wonder if it will allow 2x video cards ...
[02:14] <MegaByte> Hexidigital meet your brother >:-)
[02:14] <XJ> I am in .mozilla, now where is temp files and cookies?
[02:14] <MTecknology> how do i update to dapper?
[02:14] <__mikem> I like the way linux deals with hidden files, it just makes file names starting with a '.' hidden, but windows makes it a file attribute which is bound to take up lots of space in the file system table in the long run
[02:14] <[Chameleon] > iceman: I used that to get my dual-head setup on Ubuntu Breezy using a single nVidia 6600 GT
[02:14] <Hexidigital> lol megabyte
[02:14] <XJ> Why would cookies not be in global folder?
[02:14] <MegaByte> !update
[02:14] <ubotu> MegaByte: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:14] <stunned> MTecknology: you wait.
[02:14] <MegaByte> !updating
[02:14] <ubotu> MegaByte: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:14] <XJ> They are in windows...
[02:14] <Hexidigital> !upgrade
[02:14] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[02:14] <flippermorg> warbo:ok after
[02:14] <Warbo> flippermorg: When it has done then j2re1.4 should be there somewhere
[02:14] <iceman> 2 cards my only problem ...
[02:15] <iceman> no dual head card ..
[02:15] <MTecknology> stunned, can't i get a prerelease though
[02:15] <[Chameleon] > XJ: no they aren't in Windows. Cookies are stored per user in Windows and Linux.
[02:15] <stunned> java is dead
[02:15] <XJ> So where is temp files and cookies?
[02:15] <jadaz87> stunned what is galeon better than exactly?
[02:15] <Hexidigital> jadaz87, was it !upgrade you were looking for?
[02:15] <Warbo> flippermorg: If your search is stillopen it could be there already, if not search for java
[02:15] <amphi> XJ: just root around in there - or use ff to delete them ;)
[02:15] <__mikem> stunned, I am afriad that observation is erronious
[02:15] <XJ> XJ: Yes, per user, but not per browser
[02:15] <[Chameleon] > iceman: read that doc. He's using two cards... but they are both nVidia. you may have a lot of headache using 1 nVidia and 1 ATI.
[02:15] <__mikem> for proof, take a look at any LG Cell Phone
[02:15] <jadaz87> hexidigital yeah i could not remember lol someone asked about upgrading to dapper lol
[02:15] <XJ> what is ff?
[02:15] <__mikem> or Samsung for that matter
[02:15] <amphi> XJ: w3m keeps its cookies & cache in its own directory
[02:16] <[Chameleon] > XJ: if you have IE and Firefox, they each have separate cookie stores.
[02:16] <david_> hexidigital, i know i'm being a pain lol, but the first command (You need package xxxxx installed)? it asks me for password but wont let me type anything in :S
[02:16] <[Chameleon] > XJ: you don't know jack.
[02:16] <amphi> XJ: firefox
[02:16] <bmk789> how do i configure sendmail to use smtp?
[02:16] <flippermorg> wa am i looking for
[02:16] <XJ> Fine, I don't know jack, fuckwad
[02:16] <iceman> only other choice is a nvidia and a onboard ...
[02:16] <__mikem> !language
[02:16] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[02:16] <Warbo> flippermorg: In the "Package" column there should be one called j2re1.4
[02:16] <amphi> david_: it doesn't echo when you type it
[02:16] <[Chameleon] > XJ: what are you trying to accomplish anyway?
[02:16] <Hexidigital> david_, sudo apt-get [package_name]
[02:16] <__mikem> if you guys don't stop fighting, I will be forced to call on the ops
[02:16] <jadaz87> !patience
[02:16] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[02:16] <Hexidigital> then type password (it will appear as you aren't typing anything)
[02:16] <iceman> no foul WINDOWS language allowed here
[02:17] <XJ> looking to clean out temp files: make more space
[02:17] <[Chameleon] > __mikem: who is fighting?
[02:17] <XJ> windows has cleaner tool
[02:17] <Hexidigital> then type password (it will appear as you aren't typing anything), david_
[02:17] <XJ> friggin linux
[02:17] <XJ> I don't know why my brother bothers
[02:17] <amphi> XJ: you can do that from within firefox quite painlessly
[02:17] <XJ> amphi: oh...
[02:17] <[Chameleon] > XJ: let's take this to a private channel. I'll help you.
[02:17] <jadaz87> !tell XJ about enter
[02:17] <david_> hexidigital, can you explain please... im not completely with all this linux talk :) lol
[02:17] <amphi> XJ: just point 'n' grunt ;)
[02:17] <Warbo> flippermorg: found it?
[02:17] <__mikem> XJ, linux is for people who are familior with computers and have some idea what they are doing, windows is for the most iliterate of computer illiterates
[02:17] <XJ> I never used enter as a punctuation key
[02:17] <Hexidigital> david_ go to channel #hex
[02:17] <XJ> this works like IM
[02:18] <XJ> __mikem: I do not like what you imply
[02:18] <__mikem> if you can't get the hang of it after about 2 weeks trying, then I am afraid you must be in the later catagory
[02:18] <flippermorg> warbo:nope
[02:18] <jinho> is there a set of keys that I have to press to enable a different language when I type in?
[02:18] <Warbo> flippermorg: Hmmm....
[02:18] <XJ> I am on first day
[02:18] <jinho> for example I would like to type in Korean, so is there a keyboard shortcut for that?
[02:18] <amphi> XJ: pay no attention - the learning curve can be a bit steep at first
[02:18] <XJ> now how do I delete from in firefox?
[02:18] <iceman> XJ to truly learn linux you got to unlearn and forget windows
[02:18] <jinho> (I have installed Korean - en-utf 8)
[02:18] <dli> XJ, you type too many enters, try to write in sentences
[02:18] <Warbo> flippermorg: You in Synaptic? You've enabled Universe and Multiverse? You reloaded after? You searched for "Java"?
[02:18] <jadaz87> XJ as in please stop using the enter key like on IM because this is not IM it is irc
[02:19] <khafra> Canon Pixma printers--I have an iP1600, closest driver I can find is iP1500, written for SUSE.  Do I have a whelk's chance in a supernova?
[02:19] <flippermorg> how do i enable univ. and multi.
[02:19] <amphi> XJ: edit->prefs->privacy
[02:19] <pdavid> evening all
[02:19] <[Chameleon] > XJ: I'm trying to help you in a query window. Do you see it?
[02:19] <pdavid> anyone got any experience using k9copy by chance?
[02:19] <kingspawn> khafra: always a chance :)
[02:19] <dli> pdavid, no hi :( not evening for all
[02:19] <XJ> thank you very much
[02:19] <XJ> I will try to learn better
[02:19] <[Chameleon] > XJ: if not, you probably have to register your nickname on the server.
[02:19] <pdavid> dli: well, evening for some, morning for others!
[02:19] <Warbo> flippermorg: That was when you went into the "repositories" and put a tick in "Universe" and "Multiverse". Did you do that?
[02:19] <XJ> And stop using friggin enter
[02:20] <[Chameleon] > :)
[02:20] <khafra> kingspawn: Hehe, thanks.  I guess moral support is all I really came for, I'll have questions later :D
[02:20] <amphi> [Chameleon] : he's not 'identified to services'
[02:20] <jinho> does anyone type in a language other than english here?
[02:20] <[FaBiTo-ZzZ] > anyone who can write in spanish?
[02:20] <[Chameleon] > amphi: yeah, ok
[02:20] <jadaz87> !es
[02:20] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:20] <[Chameleon] > amphi: thx. how did you determine that?
[02:20] <dli> jinho, you can, and you be banned, I think
[02:20] <[FaBiTo-ZzZ] > ok ok ubotu
[02:20] <amphi> [Chameleon] : the magic of /whois ;)
[02:20] <__mikem> [Chameleon]  what was that guys story anyway
[02:20] <[FaBiTo-ZzZ] > :-)
[02:20] <pdavid> wondering if anyone knows how to force k3b to burn a disc that reports as 4.7GB
[02:20] <jadaz87> jinho what language do you speak?
[02:20] <jinho> dli: I'm not saying I want to do it here
[02:20] <jadaz87> pdavid that is a dvd
[02:21] <pdavid> jadaz87: yep, i know
[02:21] <flippermorg>  were in represori do i do this
[02:21] <jadaz87> pdavid dvd-r are 4.7 in size
[02:21] <jinho> I'm saying in general...cuz I cant figure out how to enable typing in Korean...although I've installed the correct fonts and language from locale
[02:21] <dli> jinho, I think xchat, chatzilla both support XIM
[02:21] <Warbo> flippermorg: You go on "Add" and the list is there
[02:21] <[Chameleon] > __mikem: frustrated n00b I guess. he's still here ya know.
[02:21] <pdavid> jadaz87: yep, and that is what i have
[02:21] <[Chameleon] > well, not now...
[02:21] <systemx> what is the best ftp client for X in linux ?
[02:21] <jadaz87> pdavid why can you now burn it?
[02:21] <pdavid> jadaz87: but k3b refuses to burn anything more than 4.3
[02:21] <[Chameleon] > systemx: I like gFTP
[02:21] <dli> systemx, I like lftp
[02:21] <jadaz87> pdavid are you serious ? i did not know what
[02:21] <pdavid> 4.3Gb (1000)
[02:21] <pdavid> 4.7GB (1024)
[02:22] <Warbo> flippermorg: The Universe and Multiverse are in brackets. These are where most of the software is
[02:22] <systemx> aight :
[02:22] <__mikem> [Chameleon]  Yes, I am aware, I didn't see any exit mesages associated with his irc session, but I was just wondering because i made a backhanded remark implicating his lack of knowlege at computers in general
[02:22] <jinho> dli: how would I enable or switch to XIM? like in windows (sorry for having to mention that dirty name) the shortcut is right-alt
[02:22] <pdavid> i had k9copy backup a disc for me, but the files it spit out are 4.7Gb
[02:22] <__mikem> I just wanted to make sure it was noone important
[02:22] <pdavid> and k4b refuses to burn it (or growisofs, whichever)
[02:22] <flippermorg> ok now that that is done im looking for wat
[02:22] <pdavid> k3b&
[02:22] <pdavid> k3b**
[02:22] <MTecknology> What's the wiki for the ubuntu repositories, and for upgrading ubuntu?
[02:22] <[Chameleon] > __mikem: never seen the guy... but I don't idle here as often as I used to.
[02:22] <amphi> __mikem: that is the common condition of windows refugees, it seems
[02:22] <jadaz87> !upgrade
[02:22] <Warbo> flippermorg: If they are added and reloaded search for "Java"
[02:22] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[02:22] <[Chameleon] > amphi: heh, yeah
[02:22] <flippermorg> yup
[02:22] <jadaz87> !repos
[02:22] <dli> jinho, install scim , and select Language in gdm before login, the easiest way (and natural way) I can think of
[02:22] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:23] <__mikem> amphi I gathered...
[02:23] <Warbo> flippermorg: There should be a package called j2re1.4
[02:23] <amphi> __mikem: 'cos MS stopped shipping masm I suppose ;)
[02:23] <jinho> dli: will that force me to type in one language the entire session?
[02:23] <Warbo> flippermorg: somewhere down the list (it should be a big list, if not then Universe and Multiverse are still probably not on)
[02:23] <flippermorg> ok i found j2re1.4
[02:23] <__mikem> amphi, masm can be obtained through the masm32 package by steve hutchenson
[02:23] <__mikem> just go to www.masm32.com
[02:23] <Warbo> flippermorg: OK, finally :)
[02:24] <pdavid> nobody has tried k9copy here, i guess?
[02:24] <flippermorg> now what do i do
[02:24] <amphi> __mikem: oh yeah? I thought it was long dead - I used to use tasm, and then nasm
[02:24] <Warbo> flippermorg: OK, there is a white box next to it. Click it and a menu comes up. Choose "Mark for installation"
[02:24] <__mikem> the problem is, going from windows to linux is just like going from an automatic to a stick shift
[02:24] <dli> jinho, no, scim can do en (without xim)
[02:24] <__mikem> amphi, fraid not, the masm comunity is alive and well
[02:24] <amphi> __mikem: cool
[02:24] <Warbo> flippermorg: It may come up that you have to install other things first. Say OK
[02:24] <pvd2006> whats a good program to burn audio cds with linux?
[02:24] <petemc> anyone using latest xen on breezy?
[02:25] <Warbo> flippermorg: That is the beauty of Synaptic
[02:25] <dli> __mikem, I encourage you to blame ubuntu rather than blaming yourself
[02:25] <__mikem> no linux port of masm though I am afraid
[02:25] <flippermorg> i double click on j2re1.4
[02:25] <ds[de] > how can I remove the kubuntu-desktop package? sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop just wants to remove ~36kb (i.e. the meta package himself)
[02:25] <dli> __mikem, sudo apt-get install nasm
[02:25] <__mikem> dli, Masm, not nasm
[02:25] <Warbo> flippermorg: Single click and a menu comes up. Basically when you've done it right there is an arrow on the box
[02:25] <Hackmo> hey, does anyone here use lives?
[02:25] <__mikem> we are talking about the microsoft macro assembler, not the netwide assembler
[02:26] <__mikem> Hackmo, from time to time
[02:26] <__mikem> why
[02:26] <kingspawn> __mikem: have a look at yasm if your into assembler. nice project that aims to support both intel and at&t syntax, etc
[02:26] <dli> __mikem, http://pastebin.com/662334
[02:26] <flippermorg> ok ther is a awrow over the littel whtie box beside the thing
[02:26] <dli> __mikem, sorry, wrong link, this one: http://nasm.sourceforge.net/
[02:26] <__mikem> kingspawn fraid not
[02:26] <__mikem> dli, yes I know what the netwide assembler is
[02:26] <Warbo> flippermorg: Right. That is java. Now, if you want a nice limewire-thing for the time being search for "gtk-gnutella"
[02:26] <__mikem> I use fasm on linux though
[02:27] <luisito> which sounds events do you recommend me?
[02:27] <Hackmo> __mikem: Does Lives need an ethernet camera as an input device or does it work with a USB webcam?
[02:27] <obscurite> dumb swraid question - if I remove my non-boot drive, reboot, and re-add it, my raid1 rebuilds just fine. if I remove my boot drive, the system won't boot. How can I make my raid boot off of either drive?
[02:27] <Warbo> flippermorg: Notice though that you haven't installed anything yet! You are still choosing
[02:27] <amphi> luisito: none
[02:27] <Hexidigital> does ubuntu have a backup program, or do you have to burn cd's the old-fashioned way?
[02:27] <Hexidigital> i.e. backup with restore mode?
[02:27] <dli> Hexidigital, are you talking about the hardware or the software part of backing up
[02:28] <Hexidigital> dli, software
[02:28] <__mikem> Hackmo, I don't think it matters, either way, you need to find linux drivers for either device before it will work
[02:28] <dli> Hexidigital, try rsnapshot
[02:28] <luisito> amphi, better none, right?
[02:28] <flippermorg> ok
[02:28] <Hexidigital> thanks, dli
[02:28] <pvd2006> Does Serpetine audio cd creator work ok?
[02:28] <amphi> luisito: I prefer none
[02:28] <ming> how to add a daemon and start it up when system startup ?
[02:28] <Hexidigital> dli, do you know if rsnapshot has a restore mode?
[02:28] <Hackmo> __mikem: I have drivers for my webcam and it works with all other programs I just can't seem to find a way to tell lives to use it
[02:29] <Warbo> flippermorg: When you have got an arrow by j2re1.4, and if you want gtk-gnutella as well, than select Apply and then tell it to start downloading with Apply
[02:29] <MTecknology> !easysource
[02:29] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:29] <dli> ming: try "update-rc.d"
[02:29] <obscurite> There didn't seem to be any way to make the other drive my primary/master drive in the BIOS, so I tried swapping the drives, but the system wouldn't boot. Both drives are part of an mdadm raid1 mirror.
[02:29] <__mikem> are they windows drivers are linux drivers
[02:29] <amphi> ming: write an init script for it
[02:29] <flippermorg> warbo:ok
[02:29] <fuji> anyone here?
[02:29] <linuxgeekery> me!
[02:29] <dli> Hexidigital, I think you can use "cp -a"
[02:29] <amphi> fuji: no
[02:29] <fuji> sorry
[02:29] <linuxgeekery> ;P
[02:29] <mwe> ming: add it to /etc/init.d/bootclean.sh or make a bootscript if it doesn't come with one
[02:29] <Hexidigital> thanks, dli, again
[02:29] <Warbo> flippermorg: Java is quite big. It should have a downloading box now for a while
[02:29] <vircuser> !easysource
[02:29] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:30] <naxxtor> ok - here's an odd problem
[02:30] <fuji> my xine needs a pluging to handle mrl for my browser where can i obtain it what is the package name?
[02:30] <linuxgeekery> naxxtor: please do tell :)
[02:30] <__mikem> most problems encountered when installing programs on linux are dependancy related
[02:30] <dli> fuji, do you mean plugins for firefox?
[02:30] <Warbo> flippermorg: If it's going now I was just wondering if you chose gtk-gnutella as well or not. Just asking, it doesn't matter if you did
[02:30] <Hexidigital> naxxtor is keeping everyone in suspense
[02:30] <naxxtor> for some reason a perl process is taking up 100% of my CPU.  when I kill it (killall perl) I get a dialog box that says "Warning, the password you entered is invalid"
[02:31] <fuji> yes
[02:31] <linuxgeekery> naxxtor: with sudo?
[02:31] <Hackmo> __mikem, any ideas?
[02:31] <flippermorg> warbo:i got to go sorry i will find my way some other time
[02:31] <ming> I know how to write an init script but how to let init process know my script ?
[02:31] <fuji> i want to get it using sudo
[02:31] <naxxtor> linuxgeekery, what with sudo?
[02:31] <linuxgeekery> naxxtor: are you running killall with sudo?
[02:31] <dli> ming: update-rc.d
[02:31] <flippermorg> i donno i just started with linux last week
[02:31] <__mikem> Hackmo, are they linux drivers or windows drivers
[02:31] <fuji> i dont know which package to get
[02:31] <flippermorg> ive dos all my life
[02:31] <Warbo> flippermorg: OK, but when java is in you should be able to double click ".jar" files. (Hopeflly) bye!
[02:31] <pvd2006> I have a question about linux, I know windows has problems with burning audio/movies if you try doing other stuff while its burning, is linux any different with this?
[02:31] <amphi> naxxtor: what if you kill -9 <PID> ?
[02:31] <naxxtor> linuxgeekery, i've done it with both with and without - since the process is owned by me i don't technically need sudo
[02:32] <Hackmo> __mikem, linux.  Ubuntu picks up my camera automatically
[02:32] <devnull__> how can i reinstall all of gnome desktop ?
[02:32] <naxxtor> btw when i've okay'd away the dialog it starts up again
[02:32] <linuxgeekery> naxxtor: what amphi said, plus do you know what the process is running?
[02:32] <amphi> pvd2006: you can do whatever you like, as long as you watch for buffer underruns
[02:32] <__mikem> ok, then the live cd should just do so automaticly
[02:32] <naxxtor> amphi, no i havn't
[02:32] <mwe> devnull__: why'd you do that?
[02:32] <Warbo> devnull_: Do you know how to use Synaptic?
[02:32] <naxxtor> linuxgeekery, i don't know what it's running, is there a way to find out?
[02:32] <david_> hexidigital, thanks again for your help, its sorted now :-)
[02:32] <pvd2006> amphi, I am using serpetine audio creator
[02:32] <pvd2006> I dont see a buffer listed anywhere
[02:32] <pvd2006> I have it writing at 8x
[02:32] <devnull__> mwe because all of my widgets are messed up
[02:33] <Hackmo> __mikem: i'm not using the live cd?
[02:33] <dli> pvd2006, try k3b
[02:33] <devnull__> scrollbars are missing about 5 pixels on the left side of them
[02:33] <stunned> widgets are dead
[02:33] <mwe> devnull__: you should probably just create a new profile
[02:33] <amphi> pvd2006: dunno anything about it - just give cdrecord or whatever a large buffer and you should be ok
[02:33] <__mikem> Ok, what exaclty are you trying to do
[02:33] <Warbo> devnull_: Is it just a theme or what? You might have to purge the packages to stop the same config files screwing them up again
[02:33] <devnull__> mwe where would i do that
[02:33] <stunned> or widgets should be minimized like osx
[02:33] <devnull__> Warbo, okay and how is that done
[02:33] <Hackmo> __mikem: I'm talking about lives the video manipulation software not the Ubuntu live cd
[02:33] <amphi> pvd2006: is that a FE to cdrecord?
[02:34] <mwe> devnull__: rename ~/.gnome*
[02:34] <linuxgeekery> naxxtor: try running "ps faxl | grep perl" at a command line
[02:34] <devnull__> gotcha
[02:34] <__mikem> oh, then I am afraid your on your own
[02:34] <MTecknology> if I use the sources editor in synaptic to change breezy to dapper on all of the repos, will that effectively upgrade my system?
[02:34] <pvd2006> amphi, Im not sure, I dont see anywhere where I can set a buffer for it though
[02:34] <amphi> pvd2006: if so, you can specify a buffer size with CDR_FIFOSIZE=whatever in /etc/default/cdrecord
[02:34] <devnull__> i will give it a shot
[02:34] <linuxgeekery> naxxtor: actually, use less instead of grep perl... sorry
[02:34] <adogintheocean> hey
[02:34] <naxxtor> ah haa.  0  1000 10643 10356  25   0  11752  9968 -      Rs+  pts/1      0:05  \_ perl /usr/share/setup-tool-backends/scripts/network-conf
[02:34] <dli> naxxtor, you you want to kill all perl, try "audo pkill -9 perl"
[02:34] <devnull__> i guess there is no better way than that ?
[02:35] <ming> dli: say I have '/etc/init.d/testd' which implements stop/start/restart, how update-rc.d knows about it ?
[02:35] <mwe> MTecknology: it should. be prepared for possible breakage though
[02:35] <devnull__> i spent a lot of time customizing my panels
[02:35] <amphi> pvd2006: I only use cdrecord
[02:35] <__mikem> devnull__ have you ever used freeBSD
[02:35] <naxxtor> dli - i can kill perl and it works fine, it just starts again as soon as i've dismissed the dialog
[02:35] <devnull__> mikem no
[02:35] <ubuntu_> alguem do br ?
[02:35] <mwe> ming: please read man update-rc.d it adds appropiate links
[02:35] <adogintheocean> hi am new to ubuntu and am running it alongside windows
[02:35] <amphi> !br
[02:35] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues.  Let's say I have a panel chock full of launchers and it's getting really crowded, how can i move a panel over to get more space on one side of it?
[02:36] <ubuntu_> blz
[02:36] <__mikem> on freebsd you had no choice other than to spend a long time "customizing your panels"
[02:36] <adogintheocean> and am wondering if its possible to access files from the windows partition?
[02:36] <__mikem> adogintheocean just mount the partition
[02:37] <orbin> obscurite: move a panel  by dragging it.  move launchers (icons) by right-clicking >move
[02:37] <amphi> adogintheocean: yes, ro if the windows partition is ntfs
[02:37] <adogintheocean> how am really new to this?
[02:37] <Warbo> obscurite: if you have them "expanded" to fill the edge of the screen then you can move it around the edge. If it is not expanded then you get handles to drag it anywhere
[02:37] <dli> adogintheocean, ntfs is mostly for read only
[02:37] <obscurite> orbin - hrm, dragging the panel? I'll try, though I don't see where you can grab hold of one.
[02:37] <MTecknology> mwe, orbin, my system works now, only delicates running are BUM, and ndiswrapper if I update my repos (apt-get update) and upgrade (apt-get dist-upgrade) should i be ok?
[02:37] <linuxgeekery> *brb :P
[02:37] <amphi> adogintheocean: what filesystem is the windows partition?
[02:37] <naxxtor> you know i think it might have something to do with my messing around with gprs over bluetooth
[02:38] <orbin> MTecknology: i don't know how stable dapper is atm tbh
[02:38] <mwe> MTecknology: it _should_
[02:38] <adogintheocean> ntfs
[02:38] <Kai> Could someone please help me -I have my HDD sep. into two partitions. I'm trying to re-install Windows but it wont boot from CD
[02:38] <stunned> adogintheocean: are you of green and salt like blue? (i know the tongue is involved)
[02:38] <mwe> MTecknology: don't whine if it breaks though
[02:38] <orbin> ubotu: tell adogintheocean about ntfs
[02:38] <pvd2006> amphi, do I run the cdrecord program
[02:38] <pvd2006> like this
[02:38] <naxxtor> ok - here is a picture of the dialog that appears: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/goldfish654/Screenshot.png
[02:38] <linuxgeekery> __mikem: It's the same with me :)
[02:38] <Warbo> Kal: Have you checked your BIOS settings?
[02:38] <boabsta> Kai, have u checked BIOS to
[02:38] <MTecknology> i won't I'll just reinstall windows and wait for dapper
[02:38] <dli> Kai, boot from CD :) that has nothing to do with linux
[02:38] <obscurite> Crap, my top panel ended up on the side and system monitor crashed hard ;)
[02:39] <orbin> adogintheocean: ntfs support is read-only.  check your pms. ubotu sent you a link
[02:39] <__mikem> ;-)
[02:39] <pvd2006> sudo cdrecord CDR_FIFOSIZE=
[02:39] <Kai> Yes. I have.
[02:39] <flippermorg> im now on my windows
[02:39] <pvd2006> ?
[02:39] <MTecknology> cuz windows is easy
[02:39] <flippermorg> xp
[02:39] <flippermorg> pro
[02:39] <adogintheocean> yah i got the link thanxs
[02:39] <__mikem> xp shmow
[02:39] <devnull__> exit
[02:39] <Warbo> Kal: Have you tried the disc recently/on another machine?
[02:39] <flippermorg> windows xp pro
[02:39] <Kai> Yes.
[02:39] <ming> dli/mwe: thanks a ton.
[02:39] <__mikem> winblows xp shmow
[02:39] <Warbo> flippermorg: hello
[02:39] <ompaul> flippermorg, don't use the enter key in the place of a comma thanks
[02:40] <amphi> pvd2006: you probably can specify the buffer size on the command line (see man cdrecord), but better put it in /etc/default/cdrecord
[02:40] <obscurite> orbin, Warbo, - if I have a bunch of launchers I want to move over all at once, can I do that? I'd hate to have to move 10 launchers one by one
[02:40] <pvd2006> nm, amphi
[02:40] <pvd2006> I found it
[02:40] <flippermorg> warbo
[02:40] <stunned> don't launch, only launch one at a time
[02:40] <flippermorg> how do i get my on chat server
[02:40] <pvd2006> hmm
[02:40] <Warbo> obscurite: Hmm. If they are the only things on the panel then move the panel :) If not I don't think you can except 1 by 1
[02:40] <pvd2006> amphi, it shows it as 4megs
[02:40] <orbin> obscurite: if there is i don't know it.  it *is* a pain isn't it?
[02:40] <mwe> flippermorg: install an ircd
[02:40] <Warbo> flippermorg: Chat server? I don't do networking :)
[02:40] <amphi> pvd2006: I have 8, which is probably overkill
[02:41] <flippermorg> www.quebecgamez.com.morg
[02:41] <Kai> The Windows disk works and BIOS is configured but it's not booting from CD. It's going straight to my paritions.
[02:41] <obscurite> orbin, it's excrutiating! In windows, the equivalent of launchers have a sub-panel that can be moved within the task bar
[02:41] <stunned> windows is filthy
[02:41] <obscurite> orbin, and I hateo to be jealous of any windows feature ;)
[02:41] <__mikem> winblows is a toy
[02:41] <ompaul> !offtopic
[02:41] <Kai> Yeah. It is. But I hate Wine.
[02:41] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[02:41] <stunned> they are control freaks
[02:41] <Warbo> Kai: Is there a "press <a key> to select boot device" or similar?
[02:41] <flippermorg> go to www.philippe-web.net
[02:41] <stunned> not free
[02:41] <__mikem> Kai, why do you hate wine
[02:41] <obscurite> stunned, I didn't mean to start a religious discussion but thanks ;)
[02:42] <stunned> proprietary will soon be deaed
[02:42] <flippermorg> all free aply and make ur self a web site
[02:42] <stunned> dead*
[02:42] <orbin> obscurite: i'm going to ask in gnome
[02:42] <Kai> Yes, Warbo.
[02:42] <obscurite> orbin - thank you kind sir!
[02:42] <orbin> #gnome i mean
[02:42] <flippermorg> its my best friend web site
[02:42] <amphi> stunned: bollocks
[02:42] <stunned> obsure: you are welcome
[02:42] <ompaul> quit with the bad language already
[02:42] <Warbo> Kai: Well that's about all of my knowledge gone.
[02:42] <flippermorg> he host with linux
[02:42] <Kai> :/
[02:42] <stunned> amphi: two upward fingers to you too
[02:42] <__mikem> Kai why do you have wine
[02:42] <Necrosan> when is the next ubuntu scheduled for RELEASE?
[02:43] <flippermorg> c ya all
[02:43] <ompaul> stunned, quit with the language .. even the hint of it
[02:43] <mikeo1> whats the command to start gnome?
[02:43] <stunned> Necrosan: in the year 2007
[02:43] <orbin> obscurite: thank me when i get an answer.  channel seems dead
[02:43] <stunned> omp: what?
[02:43] <mikeo1> got kde working with my compiz script with startkde but wondering how to get gnome to start with it insteadd
[02:43] <amphi> stunned: there are many specialiased niche areas where free sw will probably never provide an alternative
[02:43] <mikeo1> although think i might just keep kde
[02:43] <obscurite> orbin - is it possible to create a sub-panel in which you can group a bunch of items you want to move together maybe?
[02:43] <MTecknology> stupid noob question... where is sources.list
[02:43] <stunned> amp: you are lie
[02:43] <Warbo> mikeo1: gnome-session but it won't start alone (or will have bugs)
[02:43] <mikeo1> kde is sort of a memory hog though
[02:43] <naxxtor> /etc/apt
[02:43] <orbin> Necrosan: dapper is due on june 1
[02:43] <ompaul> stunned, your polite reply to amphi was not required
[02:43] <amphi> MTecknology: /etc/apt
[02:43] <Necrosan> stunned: hahaaha
[02:43] <naxxtor> MTecknology,
[02:43] <naxxtor> :p
[02:43] <Necrosan> orbin: OK
[02:43] <__mikem> to find anything in linux you can always do locate (filename)
[02:44] <mikeo1> so i should just stick to startkde then in the script?
[02:44] <stunned> Necrosan: get nekkid and rock
[02:44] <orbin> obscurite: sure. make a new panel, then disable expansion :)
[02:44] <mikeo1> cause before it was exec gnome-session and it failed
[02:44] <mikeo1> changed it to startkde and now it works
[02:44] <systemx> how can i add the 1024x768 resolution to x in ubuntu ??
[02:44] <stunned> why is kde so bloated?
[02:44] <blindx> any recommendations on a VCD burning program?
[02:44] <blindx> !tell systemx about fixres
[02:44] <__mikem> stunned, because of all the "eye candy"
[02:45] <dli> mike-ee, why not simply select kde in gdm
[02:45] <ompaul> mikeo1, sudo update-alternatives --all << set it the way you want it >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[02:45] <Necrosan> stunned: lamer =P
[02:45] <Warbo> systemx: Usually "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal will do it
[02:45] <amphi> blindx: ISTR a vcdtools package
[02:45] <blindx> ISTR?
[02:45] <mikeo1> because this is for xgl and compiz
[02:45] <stunned> __mikem: what candy?  do you mean oil? or do you mean death of proprietary?
[02:45] <mikeo1> my compiz script starts compiz and xgl, then starts a window manager
[02:45] <ompaul> mikeo1, then change the "logon screen setup"
[02:45] <amphi> blindx: 'I seem to recall' - it's a long time since I messed with vcd
[02:45] <obscurite> orbin - I made a new panel, but now how do I add the panel within the top panel so it's part of it?
[02:45] <blindx> oh. rofl.
[02:45] <mikeo1> whatever it works now with kde think ill just leave it this way
[02:45] <ompaul> mikeo1, so talk about that in the channel #ubuntu+1
[02:45] <blindx> i thought istr was the name of it
[02:46] <__mikem> stunned, what do you mean death of proprietary
[02:46] <blindx> lol.
[02:46] <stunned> gawd dry spain wine is good
[02:46] <kev_> i'm using hostap for my prism2.5 wireless card. on boot it loads the module and creates eth0 and eth3 (the latter as the beacon device) but fails to get an ip via dhcp. i aliased (In /etc/modprobe.d/aliases) wlan0 to hostap_pci. if i manually remove the modules (hostap and hostap_pci), and then run modprobe wlan0 it creates eth0 and wifi0, and propery gets an ip via dhcp. any suggestions on how to tell hostap to create eth0 and wifi0 (or ev
[02:46] <kev_> en wlan0 and wifi0)?
[02:46] <amphi> blindx: heh
[02:46] <ompaul> mikeo1, dapper should not be here
[02:46] <Warbo> obscurite: Do you want to add a drawer?
[02:46] <naxxtor> now i know that the network-config script is causing trouble - how do i work out what's wrong with it?
[02:46] <blindx> I'm not big on acronyms :x
[02:46] <dli> mikeo1, does kde support xgl features?
[02:46] <stunned> __mikem: i mean by the death of the private
[02:46] <obscurite> warbo - maybe if I knew what a drawer was, I would. ;) I'll go research drawers.
[02:46] <__mikem> Not sure what you are trying to get at?
[02:46] <Warbo> obscurite: exactly. Add to panel -> Drawer.
[02:47] <amphi> blindx: install the bsdgames package and use wtf(6) - it's a handy acronym dictionary
[02:47] <blindx> amphi: ok, I've installed it...
[02:47] <ompaul> dli, mikeo1 that conversation belongs in the channel #ubuntu+1 as that is where is it supported
[02:47] <obscurite> Warbo - my quest is to add a sub-group that can be moved within my top panel all together, instead of having loose launchers and applets that i have to move one by one
[02:47] <blindx> but "vcdtools" doesn't open it..
[02:47] <blindx> any clue on the command?
[02:47] <pvd2006> well thats not good, my cd burner has a red solid light as it is burning, Im guessing that means its not burning right.
[02:47] <orbin> obscurite: you can't :)  what about making it transparent and putting it below the top panel
[02:47] <amphi> blindx: dpkg -L vcdtools to list the files it installed - you might want cdrdao too
[02:47] <Warbo> obscurite: Oh.  Warbo fixed all your troubles :)
[02:48] <amphi> blindx: /usr/share/doc/vcdtools might have useful info
[02:48] <naxxtor> my goodness why is my syslog full of these: [4296792.391000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[02:48] <dli> ompaul, #ubuntu+1 doesn't cover xgl :(
[02:48] <obscurite> Warbo - are you suggesting I use drawers for my collections of launchers? how about applets?
[02:48] <Warbo> orbin: Below as in literally I hope. Not in terms of stacking windows
[02:48] <orbin> dli: there's #ubuntu-xgl iirc
[02:48] <mikeo1> my kde does
[02:48] <mwe> naxxtor: full of it?
[02:49] <ompaul> dli, well there is a #xgl but it is a dapper subject so that makes it offtopic for here which is for stable releases
[02:49] <dli> naxxtor, a broken keyboard?
[02:49] <mikeo1> kde works fine with xgl
[02:49] <Warbo> obscurite: I used to have loads of drawers (back in my RedHat 9 days) which catagorised my launchers
[02:49] <mwe> naxxtor: or just when you boot
[02:49] <version_z> can anybody confirm a bug with the latest gnome-screensaver in dapper drake (flight 6) that causes the screensaver to not start?
[02:49] <blindx> ahhh, it's command line. not gui.
[02:49] <blindx> and only does mpeg files :\
[02:49] <mikeo1> the desktop switcher built into kde doesnt seem to recegnise different desktops but i dont use that anyway much
[02:49] <pvd2006> Amphi, what did you set cdrecord to for burning speed
[02:49] <naxxtor> mwe, full as in any message has hundreds of these padding them, making it impossible to read
[02:49] <mikeo1> the cube stuff and everything works fine though
[02:49] <xbox_sky> I just found out tar is a bad choice if you're gonna do backups
[02:49] <naxxtor> unless you know what you're looking for then you can grep it
[02:49] <mwe> naxxtor: ok. that's odd
[02:49] <xbox_sky> I learned the hard way, thank god for rar
[02:49] <amphi> blindx: that's what vcd needs, very lowres & bitrate too IIRC
[02:50] <obscurite> Warbo - there's something nice about having all your icons one click away though. I think gnome needs to add a sub-panel that can be moved on it's own within another panel. ;)
[02:50] <orbin> xbox_sky: what happened?
[02:50] <Warbo> xbox_sky: They get created really quick and keep permissions
[02:50] <naxxtor> mwe, it appears that if i stop hotkey-setup then it stops them happpening
[02:50] <amphi> pvd2006: I let cdrecord do as it likes WRT speed
[02:50] <dli> xbox_sky, rsnapshot is far better than tar :)
[02:50] <version_z> anybody running fully patched dapper drake and gnome-screensaver doesn't start?
[02:50] <obscurite> Warbo - it could still be a drawer, but one that shows it's contents all at once, if needed
[02:50] <mwe> naxxtor: ok. it's been broken for me as well
[02:50] <mwe> naxxtor: nothing like that though
[02:50] <pvd2006> amphi, it snot good to write a music cd at 40x though is it?
[02:50] <Warbo> obscurite: Why don't you make it then. Just a few years of computer science and you're away :)
[02:51] <amphi> blindx: you can use mencoder to get your video into the format required
[02:51] <dli> obscurite, no dapper, this channel hates dapper
[02:51] <xbox_sky> orbin I did 2 big backups (data) with tar.gz, and when i'm about to extract them, data is corrupt, for the last 2 hours i've been tryign to recover broken data, no joy
[02:51] <naxxtor> mwe, how do you stop it from being enabled when you start up?
[02:51] <mwe> naxxtor: it's probably easiest with rcconf
[02:51] <ompaul> dli, no its stable vs unstable :)
[02:51] <xbox_sky> yeah tar is quick, maybe good for small apps/deps/etc
[02:51] <Warbo> xbox_sky: You've not learned tar is bad. You've learned that unreliable media is bad
[02:51] <orbin> xbox_sky: wow
[02:51] <Warbo> :)
[02:51] <amphi> pvd2006: perhaps not; I find cdrecord's reported speed varies a lot depending on what I'm burning
[02:52] <pvd2006> amphi, Oh ok, I was making sure it wasnt going to do that
[02:52] <xbox_sky> yeah
[02:52] <pvd2006> lol
[02:52] <stunned> 15 hours 38 minutes until ubuntu on the ppc!
[02:52] <ompaul> xbox_sky, I have tared tens of gigs and moved them no problems :)
[02:52] <blindx> Hm. Where can I get a copy of the default sources.list file?
[02:52] <dli> xbox_sky, go get scsi-raid also, backup on scsi-raid
[02:52] <Davey|Laptop> stunned, I knew macs were slow but that's crazy boot time :P
[02:52] <DeMoNSeED> if you still need help, perhaps i can try, just gimme a holler
[02:52] <depakote> http://www.bluehippo.com/orderNow2.asp Sweet, a computer for so cheap!
[02:52] <amphi> Davey|Laptop: heh
[02:52] <Warbo> xbox_sky: I do use rar occasionally, but only to password protect
[02:52] <xbox_sky> ompaul good for you :/
[02:52] <xbox_sky> dli yeah but I wanted to try out tar :/
[02:52] <depakote> http://www.bluehippo.com/orderNow2.asp GNNA ANNOUNCES PARTNERSHIP WITH BLUEHIPPO
[02:53] <kev_> how does ubuntu decide what modules to load for a wireless nic and what devices to create?
[02:53] <naxxtor> mwe, cheers! :)
[02:53] <eugman> Hey I'm getting no anser in ##linux. Anyone here have an idea for something  cheap and portable I can install the console portion of a distro on?
[02:53] <orbin> ubotu: tell blindx about sources
[02:53] <amphi> kev_: hotplug I believe
[02:53] <dli> xbox_sky, if you didn't do tar.bz2, I suppose you can recover almost everything still there
[02:53] <naxxtor> now i've still got my network-setup script hogging 100% cpu time - which isn't great for a laptop i can tell you
[02:53] <orbin> blindx: not default technically..that one only has the cdrom enabled iirc
[02:53] <xbox_sky> if i've used tar.bz2 I could have used it's recovry mode, but my tar was a gzip
[02:54] <orbin> blindx: but those are the official sources.lists
[02:54] <pvd2006> I cant even use k3b, it says im using an invalid format which is mp3
[02:54] <xbox_sky> and it's recovry mode is slow/painful and doesn't work as you'd expect
[02:54] <blindx> Alright, thanks orbin
[02:54] <Warbo> I find bz2 takes much longer for little size difference (only useful for Internet)
[02:54] <mwe> naxxtor: heh. what's causing that?
[02:54] <amphi> pvd2006: you need to convert to cdda
[02:54] <xbox_sky> 2 hours later, i'm pissed (lol) tired and ........ cranky... so i'm gonna go get some sleep, and never tar my backups :D
[02:54] <naxxtor> mwe, i'm not sure
[02:54] <xbox_sky> tx for your input guys
[02:54] <next> is there such a thing as simultaneously boot rather than dual boot?
[02:55] <naxxtor> mwe, but now i've got rid of those annoying messages I might be able to pick something out
[02:55] <Warbo> next: emulate/virtualise
[02:55] <amphi> pvd2006: man cdrecord has examples for doing this sort of thing; also the cd writing howto at tldp.org
[02:55] <orbin> Warbo: me too.  i thought i read bz2 was supposed to be faster than gzip
[02:55] <dli> xbox_sky, remember to have a look at rsnapshot
[02:55] <Hexidigital> next, with software such as vmware
[02:55] <mwe> naxxtor: yeah. that helps :)
[02:55] <amphi> orbin: much slow, but better compression
[02:55] <Hexidigital> Warbo, what's virtualise?
[02:55] <amphi> orbin: *slower
[02:55] <pvd2006> im using k3b, so I figured it would be automated or something
[02:55] <Warbo> orbin: I use 7zip for tiny files and usually zip or tar gz
[02:55] <dli> orbin, no, bzip2 is for more compressiong (at the cost of speed)
[02:55] <next> hexidigital, virtual is the only way?
[02:56] <orbin> amphi, dli : ah, thanks
[02:56] <naxxtor> mwe, http://pastebin.com/662379 <-- syslog output
[02:56] <noiesmo> pvd2006, you'll what to get toolame for mp3 stuff
[02:56] <dli> Warbo, what about the speed of 7zip compared with bzip2?
[02:56] <Warbo> Hexidigital: Virtualise is like emulating, but instead of pretending to be running a software PC, you just dump all of the commands into the real PC you are on
[02:56] <Hexidigital> next, yes.... your processor can't handle operating two or more systems simultaneously
[02:56] <obscurite> This applet seems to be what I was looking for: http://quick-lounge.sourceforge.net/
[02:56] <Warbo> dli: i know. 7z is SLOW, that's why it's not my general solution
[02:57] <NickGarvey> I like 7z
[02:57] <dli> Warbo, slower than bzip2?
[02:57] <Warbo> dli: YES!
[02:57] <Hexidigital> warbo, can it run for example winxp and ubuntu simultaneous?? if so, where have i been?
[02:57] <naxxtor> mwe, it's the dialog box that comes up as soon as it perl is killed that confuses me the most.... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/goldfish654/Screenshot.png
[02:57] <linuxgeekery> whoa that was weird... a error got dumped onto the chat screen
[02:57] <mwe> naxxtor: I guess the internet is not working then
[02:57] <linuxgeekery> brb
[02:58] <Warbo> Hexidigital: If you've ever heard of VMWare then that is it. Also QEMU/KQEMU which are free but slow, I couldn't get them to run XP
[02:58] <naxxtor> mwe, actually, it is.  i'm using it right now :P
[02:58] <st3v3dnd> Does anyone know if there's a program for linux similar to Broderbund's PrintShop?
[02:58] <mwe> naxxtor: the same box?
[02:58] <naxxtor> mwe, yup
[02:58] <Hexidigital> warbo, oh... i thought you were talking aobut something different than vmware
[02:58] <ompaul> naxxtor, what program is being killed?
[02:58] <jadaz87> !tell hexidigital about vmware
[02:58] <mwe> naxxtor: what's giving you that warning?
[02:58] <amphi> Warbo: qemu wirh kqemu is fast emulating x86 on x86
[02:58] <jadaz87> !vmware
[02:58] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jadaz87
[02:58] <naxxtor> ompaul, perl process, which is running a network-setup script
[02:58] <dli> Warbo, let me do a beckmark with linux-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.bz2
[02:58] <jadaz87> !VMware
[02:58] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jadaz87
[02:58] <Warbo> Hexidigital: XEN seems to have a lot of hype, but it's only really in Fedora at the mo'
[02:59] <ompaul> naxxtor, it does not know enough to sudo something ?
[02:59] <Hexidigital> warbo, i gotcha...
[02:59] <naxxtor> ompaul, it's running /usr/share/setup-tool-backends/scripts/network-conf
[02:59] <naxxtor>  to be precise
[02:59] <Warbo> dli: I will give you some advice. Don't think "Wow, if I use this command I'll get the BEST compression!" It takes AGES :)
[02:59] <blindx> when running mencoder i get "This codecs.conf is too old and incompatible with this MPlayer release! at line 6" Where can I get an updated codecs.conf file ?
[03:00] <Warbo> blindx: Haven't used mplayer for a while. Are you using win32codecs?
[03:00] <naxxtor> mwe, i'm not sure what's giving me that warning but when i kill the process (not sudo'd or anything) it throws that
[03:00] <amphi> blindx: mplayerhq.hu? or you could comment out line 6 ;)
[03:00] <blindx> Warbo: couldn't tell ya.
[03:00] <Hexidigital> have a good night guys
[03:00] <naxxtor> mwe, makes me thing the something was depending on the result of the perl script for authentication or something
[03:00] <doms> how do i know my IP address
[03:00] <blindx> is that the website, amphi? I've never seen an hu domain
[03:00] <Warbo> blindx: Then you aren't you have to install it yourself and you would probably remember
[03:00] <amphi> doms: ifconfig
[03:00] <ompaul> naxxtor, whats calling it?
[03:00] <amphi> blindx: yes - hungary
[03:01] <naxxtor> ompaul, I'm not sure - is there a way to find out?
[03:01] <blindx> I see..
[03:01] <mwe> naxxtor: odd. I haven't seen that before
[03:01] <obscurite> Hrm, I just installed quick-launch-applet, but it doesn't show up in 'add to panel' - how should I proceed/
[03:01] <jadaz87> does anyone know what the: cd dir-holding-all-packages/ is on the breezy live cd?
[03:01] <Warbo> jadaz87: is it pool?
[03:01] <naxxtor> ompaul, is there a way to find the "parent" of a process?  that would be the answer to that question i think
[03:01] <amphi> blindx: that's strange you get that message though - have you been misbehaving with mplayer? ;)
[03:02] <jadaz87> WArbo i do not know that is why i am asking lol
[03:02] <amphi> naxxtor: ps, or pstree for a nice ascii process tree
[03:02] <Jowi> naxxtor: "pstree"
[03:02] <ompaul> naxxtor, there is lsof
[03:02] <dli> Warbo, which command to bechmark 7zip "time 7z foo"? any options to get more compression?
[03:02] <Warbo> jadaz87: It is /pool on the install disc, but that is the only one I downloaded
[03:02] <naxxtor> ooh i like pstree :D
[03:02] <ompaul> naxxtor, actually pstree is a better tool (I blame the fact it is 2am
[03:02] <Warbo> dli: I just read the man page and it gave examples
[03:02] <jadaz87> Warbo i am talking baout on the extracted image
[03:03] <Warbo> jadaz87: Oh, sorry, can't help
[03:03] <naxxtor> ahh haa...     modem_appletperl
[03:03] <dli> Warbo, "time bzip2 linux-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar" user: 1m45.551 , sys     0m1.100s
[03:03] <blindx> what's mencoders website? you can't just go mencoder file file. :P
[03:03] <amphi> blindx: mplayerhq.hu
[03:03] <Warbo> dli: Sorry, I don't know that command (but it has obvious meaning)
[03:03] <naxxtor> i can't believe it!  a pannel applet was my problem!