[00:00] <bannik> what does the host.deny file do?
[00:00] <pstewart> bannik: host.deny is for blocking machines that can login remotely to your own
[00:00] <bannik> cool thank you
[00:02] <bannik> okay a simple question for the pros, what are the good terminals to use - somenoe said I should use the basic one others suggested guake - what do you guys think is best to use
[00:04] <Braiam> bannik: whats you preffer?
[00:04] <bannik> speed and usability
[00:04] <bol> no luck with  i915.dontloadme=1
[00:05] <bol> i give up
[00:05] <hiexpo> just terminal is good can do anything with it that any other can do and is less heavy
[00:06] <malik> bannik, i would go for  terminator
[00:06] <SpaceBass> any suggestions for package/app to create an RSS feed from a directory structure?
[00:08] <alexim> join debian
[00:08] <alexim> argh sorry
[00:10] <Lims> I've installed 11.04 side by side with 10.10 to test it out, now that I'm ready to move over to 11.04 is there a preferred way to do so? Or should I just boot up gParted and start nuking partitions?
[00:10] <lwizardl> is there a way to set the default printer to the pdf version of print to file ?
[00:12] <entombed_> does richard stallman or linus or any of those dudes ever get on freenode?
[00:12] <ntr0py> I compiled 915resolution from hardy sources for my natty gma500 i386 box. Why cant I install the deb without destroying xserver-xorg-video-intel? This package does NOT provide this tool!
[00:13] <Dakrav> should i ask here for help with getting itunes to work with wine?
[00:13] <RandomTime> Lims: Depending on how you installed it, copy any files you want from the 11.04 partition, and upgrade the 10.10, then use gparted to kill what was 11.04
[00:13] <bastidrazor> Dakrav: #winehq may be a better channel and also look at !appdb
[00:13] <bastidrazor> !appdb > Dakrav
[00:14] <Dakrav> thanks
[00:14] <MikeHere> hello
[00:14] <russjr08> Has anyone used the Upgrade option on the Natty CD? Does it work well?
[00:14] <Lims> Random: I've got MythTV setup just perfectly (finally) in 11.04, and I'd hate to redo all of that.
[00:14] <Lims> I actually have more work done in 11.04 then in 10.10, so should I just blow away the 10.10 partitions and resize my 11.04
[00:14] <MikeHere> I've installed Xampp which comes with MySQL which can not launch because it says port 3306 is already in use. I've tried removing mysql-server, but then xampp's mysql won't work. So is there a way I can grab the PID of the process using port 3306 (preferably in a GUI) so that I can kill it.
[00:15] <Oracle> can someone help me with installing usb support on virtual box?
[00:15] <RandomTime> Lims: sure
[00:15] <bol> socram: i found this in kern.log -> http://sprunge.us/IIOD if you can do anything with it? :/
[00:15] <Manax392> Hi Guys I want to implent a printer driver to a Live-Cd ( in my case USB-Drive ) is this possible for not pros in linux ?
[00:16] <Oracle>  can someone help me with installing usb support on virtual box? Need help urgently
[00:16] <Lims> Random: Thanks. I was halfway hoping there was a guided (less messy) method similar to how the install is so willing to help you do side by side installs. But gParted here I come.
[00:16] <jgould> I am unable to select my USB mic in sound prefrences.  I can send outbound audio to the headset, but not inbound audio.  Any ideas?
[00:16] <multipass> how do i remove grub2 bootloader from a hard drive?
[00:16] <RandomTime> I don't think so, unless you want to nuke both and start again. Gparted's fairly easy to use
[00:16] <roasted> multipass, why would you need to?
[00:17] <Manax392> Hi Guys I want to implent a printer driver to a Live-Cd ( in my case USB-Drive ) is this possible for not pros in linux ?
[00:17] <szal> !repeat | Manax392
[00:17] <multipass> roasted: well i got a new ssd, turned the old spinning one intu pure storage.. cant change the order of HD boot in bios... so its booting first and failing.
[00:18] <szal> multipass: my guess is that it won't do anything else if you remove its bootloader
[00:18] <roasted> multipass, really? you should be able to select the drive in bios. Nonetheless, what if you recover grub2 from an ubuntu livecd?
[00:18] <gebbione> what is your favourite ssh/sft client in ubuntu
[00:18] <jgould> gebbione: ssh
[00:18] <multipass> roasted: i have the grub2 on my ssd now... and i have to do a custom boot every time i load computer
[00:19] <MikeHere> Nobody know how I can view the PID of a process running on a port?
[00:20] <szal> MikeHere: huh?
[00:20] <pstewart> MikeHere: netstat -p
[00:20] <Zachriel> Anyone know how to change a computer's name after installation?
[00:20] <Lims> netstat
[00:20] <multipass> i just dont want to have any grub on the old spinny hard drive
[00:20] <ubusammyn150> what software should i use in windows to make a grub boot loader?  for some reason my netbook is looking for bootmgr instead of grub?
[00:20] <multipass> i know i could put grub on that too, but i dont wanna ^^
[00:20] <szal> !hostname | Zachriel
[00:21] <MikeHere> psalden, I'm looking for the PID of port 3306 (mysql) so I can kill it, netstat-p doesn't show this
[00:21] <bastidrazor> MikeHere: sudo netstat -napt | grep processname  ..it'll show you the   PID/proccessname at the end
[00:21] <Zachriel> szal: What should I edit those files with? Can I use any text editor, ie: gedit?
[00:21] <Lims> gedit or vi if your good like that
[00:22] <ubusammyn150> I have burned remix rescue onto usb, but it wasnt made bootable..
[00:22] <earl_fx> Zachriel: you could also use nano on the command line. its quick and fairly intuitive.
[00:22] <bastidrazor> Zachriel: you can yes but you need to start gedit with gksudo.. for example press Alt+F2 then type gksudo gedit
[00:22] <Lims> err... you're
[00:22] <ubusammyn150> !how to make a bootable rescue usb?
[00:23] <Zachriel> bastidrazor: Why gksudo, not just sudo?
[00:23] <bastidrazor> !gksudo | Zachriel
[00:23] <timo2> ubottu: you are
[00:23] <ubusammyn150> lol
[00:24] <timo2> low self-esteem :-[
[00:24] <Zachriel> Okay, hey... so, now I know what gksudo is and I'm happy I learned -now-.
[00:25] <MikeHere> How can I kill whatever is using port 3306 please?
[00:26] <Arachon> Hey, I'm having troubles doing a command-line install of ubuntu, I can run through the installation process as normal, but when I boot up, it boots, the boot-splash loads, but then I just get a black screen
[00:26] <Arachon> with a blinking underscore
[00:26] <Jeruvy> MikeHere: MySQL is usually listening on that port.
[00:26] <MikeHere> Jeruvy, is there a way I can end it, like kill <flag> 3306?
[00:27] <Jeruvy> MikeHere: service mysql stop
[00:27] <Loshki> MikeHere: run 'lsof -i4tcp' to see which process is running on that port...
[00:27] <Jeruvy> MikeHere: er mysqld* rather.
[00:28] <timo2> t
[00:28] <timo2> whats the d for
[00:29] <aeon-ltd> daemon?.... ,maybe
[00:29] <ntr0py> How can i install .deb package when it is in conflict with another one?
[00:29] <MikeHere> Jeruvy, service mysql stop, did the trick - thanks for that
[00:29] <Zachriel> I changed the /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname files, do I need to restart the system to actually see the change?
[00:30] <Lims> Zach: Yes
[00:30] <Zachriel> Right... let's see.
[00:30] <ubusammyn150> hehe #windows actually helped me haha
[00:30] <Armageddon> what is the source code option in the source.list ? what is it used for exactly ? what is its purpose ?
[00:33] <ntr0py> How can i FORCE a local .deb package to install over any conflicts?
[00:33] <nicovl> how does the /dev/ part of the filesystem work?
[00:33] <nicovl> like what does this mean: df -h  result: none                  997M  244K  997M   1% /dev
[00:33] <bastidrazor> !filesystem > nicovl ::this page tells all
[00:33] <Armageddon> ntr0py, you do not want to do that though
[00:33] <Zachriel> Excellent!
[00:33] <th0r> ntr0py: I think there is a -force option in dpkg
[00:34] <ntr0py> Armageddon: What do you mean?
[00:34] <nicovl> bastidrazor: I am having problems with the dev filesystem not being available during boot
[00:34] <MikeHere> So, you al sysadmins in here, how can a web developer with all the web jargon to learn find time to learn of all bash commands as well lol
[00:35] <Armageddon> ntr0py, I mean, don't force it over conflicts, they are called conflicts for a reason
[00:35] <nicovl> mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/4f99705c-139f-4054-82fb-3dc293210448 does not exist
[00:35] <ntr0py> Armageddon: yes, but i dont use the parts from the other package in question
[00:35] <timo2> use paste bin u noob
[00:35] <kb3gtn> MikeHere: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[00:36] <nicovl> timo2 r u talking to me ?
[00:36] <timo2> yes
[00:36] <kb3gtn> MikeHere: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[00:36] <Armageddon> ntr0py, I'm not worried about the other packages you don't use, I'm worried about the whole system which you do use
[00:36] <bastidrazor> nicovl: you should ask the channel.
[00:36] <nicovl> timo2: using pastebin for one line would be a little excessive don't you think
[00:36] <Danny_Joris> Hi all. I need to set environment variables as described here for fedora commons: https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/FCR30/Installation+and+Configuration+Guide#InstallationandConfigurationGuide-PrepareEnvironmentVariables How do I set the PATH variable?  not sure what $FEDORA_HOME/server/bin means..
[00:37] <bastidrazor> Danny_Joris: you do know this isn't #fedora?
[00:37] <CrustyBarnacle> ntr0py: Agree with Armageddon. What are you trying to install?
[00:37] <MikeHere> kb3gtn, Looks good - bookmarked for a rainy day :p thanks
[00:37] <Danny_Joris> bastidrazor: repository fedora, not linux distribution fedora
[00:37] <Danny_Joris> i guess it's more a general linux question
[00:38] <Armageddon> Danny_Joris, it has something to do with fedora's repos, it's not a general question anymore
[00:38] <Danny_Joris> okay
[00:39] <bastidrazor> Danny_Joris: you're adding a fedora repository to ubuntu?
[00:39] <ntr0py> Armageddon, CrustyBarnacle: i need 915resolution for plymouth resolution, i compiled it from hardy src but the resulting .deb collides with xserver-xorg-video-intel which does not provide that tool. I am not using any 9xx or 8xx drivers but emgd for gma500
[00:39] <nicovl> ok... to clean things up: I am having problems during bootup, the dev filesystem doesn't seem to be available during bootup here is my boot.log http://pastebin.com/ekj6W1YU can anybody help?
[00:40] <Oracle> can someone help me with installing usb support on virtual box?
[00:40] <a|3x> so i got this laptop and installed ubuntu on it but my sound quality really sucks now, when windows was on it it was pretty good
[00:41] <nicovl> once the system is booted I can mount the partitions in fstab no problem
[00:41] <Oracle> Hey guys anyone uses oracle virtual box here?
[00:41] <watnao> yes
[00:41] <Oracle> can you help me install usb support
[00:41] <a|3x> i got virtual box on it too, but it crashes the vms for some reason with aborted message
[00:41] <nicovl> Oracle, I have used it but never tried anything with USB
[00:41] <Oracle> i have tried everything
[00:42] <CrustyBarnacle> Oracle: is your user part of the 'vboxusers' group?
[00:42] <Oracle> Dont have a clue
[00:42] <Oracle> ill check
[00:43] <Oracle> Yes i am crustybarnacle
[00:43] <a|3x> how can i fix my sound issue?
[00:43] <CrustyBarnacle> Oracle: In VB Settings, under USB, is "Enable USB Controller" selected?
[00:44] <Oracle> Yuh
[00:44] <hypoon> hey guys, I've got a machine here running 10.04 LTS, and it suddenly reboots after being logged in for a few minutes
[00:44] <hypoon> Any ideas?
[00:44] <CrustyBarnacle> Oracle: and "Enable USB 2.0 (EHCI) Controller"?
[00:44] <Oracle> yup
[00:45] <Oracle> Crusty can you team view and fix it?
[00:45] <Oracle> I have honestly tried everything
[00:45] <szal> hypoon: could be anything..  defective RAM, insufficient CPU cooling, failing PSU..
[00:45] <Armageddon> what is the source code option in the source.list ? what is it used for exactly ? what is its purpose ?
[00:45] <CrustyBarnacle> Oracle: Not sure if I can fix it.... trying to fix on my system currently.
[00:46] <Oracle> Does your usb support not work either?
[00:46] <hypoon> szal: yeah, that's what I'm afraid of. This is kind of a, "where do I start?" kind of situation
[00:46] <CrustyBarnacle> Oracle: It used to.
[00:46] <Oracle> oh
[00:46] <Oracle> Anyone else can help
[00:46] <hypoon> there it goes again
[00:47] <trism> Armageddon: it allows you to download the source code for a package with apt-get source
[00:47] <Armageddon> trism, source code as in .tar.gz right ?
[00:48] <hypoon> This machine is also displaying the message about CPU security features, but I don't remember having seen that before.
[00:49] <b44> how to set PYTHONPATH to point to $BUILDDIR/python . ??
[00:50] <trism> Armageddon: yes it includes the original tar.gz and any files required the rebuild the package (it also unpacks it for you in the current directory)
[00:50] <itaylor57> KM0201: o/
[00:50] <KM0201> itaylor57: o
[00:50] <KM0201> o/
[00:50] <Armageddon> trism, thanks, that was for general knowledge
[00:50] <Arachon> Hey, I'm having troubles doing a command-line install of ubuntu, I can run through the installation process as normal, but when I boot up, it boots, the boot-splash loads, but then I just get a black screen with a flashing underscore...
[00:52] <CrustyBarnacle> Oracle: Just fixed it for myself. It was just the "vboxusers" issue. Added my user and logged out/in.
[00:52] <CrustyBarnacle> Oracle: Printing test page via usb from guest ubuntu 10.04 on host ubuntu 11.04
[00:53] <nicovl> anyone have any tips on the optimum partition size? I have a 2TB drive which will be used mostly for data/media files... what is the best way to partition it?
[00:54] <nicovl> the system is on a seperate drive
[00:55] <CrustyBarnacle> Oracle: I do have "Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack" (v4.0.6r71344) installed.
[00:55] <frostschutz> nicovl: entirely up to you. I prefer to use LVM on such disks so I can slice them up any way I want, but you could just as well just format it with any filesystem of your choice directly.
[00:55] <Oracle> Your using 4.0.6
[00:56] <nicovl> frostschutz, thanks :)
[00:58] <Chotaz> I ahve an nvidia gt9800 and am running natty, anything flash in fullscreen is very jumpy and delayed on interactions(clicks/keyboard inputs, etc). How can I fix this?
[00:58] <CrustyBarnacle> Oracle: Of the extension, yes. Of VB 4.0.8
[00:58] <szal> Chotaz: buy a better gfx card ;)
[00:59] <hypoon> hey again guys, sorry about the disconnects, I had a bad connection. Is Memtest86 a good way to identify defective RAM?
[00:59] <rww> hypoon: yes
[00:59] <watnao> yes, but it will take a couple of hours
[00:59] <rww> well, I use memtest86+. ISO's at http://www.memtest.org/#downiso
[00:59] <Chotaz> szal, sorry if it's not the highest end but I never had problems running crysis one with max specs on this setup, so I guess it's not ahrdware problem?
[00:59] <etank> i just bought a macbook pro 13inch 8,1. would it be expected that a natty cd would boot to the live file system with no issues?
[01:00] <hypoon> so far, I'm on test #8, and no errors have been printed. If it loops back around to test #1, then what?
[01:00] <etank> i keep getting a busybox error about not being to find the live file system
[01:00] <hypoon> assume the RAM is OK?
[01:00] <hypoon> rww: yeah, 86+ is what I meant
[01:01] <hypoon> watnao: even if you only have 512MB?
[01:01] <ITSOVER9000> I beleive someone had the ame problem but, in 11.04 when  i play a song it has no sound. What can i do to fix it?
[01:02] <rww> hypoon: it'll tell you when it's done.
[01:02] <rww> hypoon: it does to me, anyway.
[01:02] <Arachon> Hey, I'm having troubles doing a command-line install of ubuntu, I can run through the installation process as normal, but when I boot up, it boots, the boot-splash loads, but then I just get a black screen with a flashing underscore...
[01:03] <etank> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-1/Natty   <-- that page doesn't list anything about boot issues with the live cd
[01:03] <hypoon> rww: it now says at the bottom "Pass complete, no errors, press Esc to exit", is that what you mean? It's on test #3 again
[01:03] <ITSOVER9000> I beleive someone had the same problem but, in 11.04 when  I play a song/video it has no audio. What can i do to fix it?
[01:03] <rww> hypoon: yes
[01:04] <hypoon> rww: Ok, If the memory's OK then, I guess I'll move on to the PSU.
[01:05] <hittt> Is there a tool for manual memory changes in linux, similar to cheatengine for windows?
[01:05] <earthen>  /msg NickServ identify <thorthor>
[01:06] <rww> !identify | earthen
[01:06] <hittt> without the <> of course
[01:06] <rww> unless that's part of your password :D
[01:07] <newubuntist> darel : are you there?
[01:07] <hittt> doubtful but yes
[01:07] <Gentoon> Is there a way to see if ia cp is hanging or still working?
[01:07] <Gentoon> Or a way to run one with some kind of progress indication?
[01:08] <newubuntist>  have some troubles with a folder
[01:08] <bastidrazor> Gentoon: look in the destination directory for files size increase if a single large file, or even if multiple files are being added
[01:08] <ITSOVER9000> I beleive someone had the ame problem but, in 11.04 when  i play a song it has no sound. What can i do to fix it?
[01:08] <szal> !repeat | ITSOVER9000
[01:08] <newubuntist> so if i use 'chown' to own a foder
[01:09] <newubuntist> does it mean that i must repeat this command with all the files of the folder
[01:10] <lwizardl> is there a way to set the default printer to the pdf version of print to file ?
[01:10] <szal> newubuntist: read 'man chown', it has a recursive option
[01:10] <earthen> has anyone connected a samsung galaxy S to ubuntu
[01:10] <bastidrazor> newubuntist: use chown -R   to make it affect all files and subdirectories
[01:11] <Chotaz> I currently have a Q6600 OC'd at 4.0, perfectly stable with water cooling, 8GB of ram and a slightly OC'd GTX9800, but YT videos act weird on full screen, dunno why that'd happen on such a rig, neither I know how to get around it. Any tips?
[01:11] <newubuntist> thanks bastidrazor
[01:11] <newubuntist> thanks: szal
[01:12] <bastidrazor> newubuntist: you're welcome.
[01:13] <ejv> terrific system specs, and you can't play YT videos? obligatory: http://xkcd.com/619/
[01:14] <andresj> How would you go about replacing the File Selector dialog in all GTK+ applications? (Hopefully short of recompiling GTK+.)
[01:15] <andresj> To be sure, I do mean to develop an application/library in C++.
[01:17] <Guest69286> Hello. Is anyone here?
[01:17] <Guest69286> I have a question.
[01:17] <szal> wrong question
[01:18] <rww> Guest69286: Yup. Best to just ask the question to the channel (all on one line) and see if anyone knows :)
[01:18] <CrustyBarnacle> !help
[01:18] <Guest69286> Fab. thanks
[01:18] <Guest69286> Question is this
[01:18] <rww> that's what I said ubottu, yes.
[01:18] <roasted> Question - has anybody here used Deja Dup? I just came across it today, and I love everything about the program, but I'm trying to see if there's a way to use this program (or something very similar to it) that automatically mounts CIFS shares and rsync's the data across the network, however, uncompressed. Any thoughts?
[01:19] <Guest69286> I am using 10.04 and want to upgrade to 11.04. Is it best to do a fresh install rather than upgrade?
[01:19] <rww> Guest69286: upgrade should work, but you'd have to do 10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04, so it may be more hassle/bandwidth than you want to do.
[01:19] <Guest69286> Ok than Guest.
[01:20] <SudoKing> CD may be faster... you won't have to reinstall software if you upgrade :)
[01:20] <hypoon> So I looked over kern.log, and it appears that linux had no idea that we were going to suddenly reboot. Does this imply that it's a hardware issue?
[01:20] <Guest69286> I have 11.04 on a CD - just d/l it. Can I just install it over the top onto the same partition? Or can I reformat it?
[01:20] <SudoKing> do you have a separate partition for /?
[01:21] <rww> Guest69286: you can install it over the top of the same partition. It should automatically detect the existing Ubuntu installation and keep your /home files.
[01:21] <rww> (but do backups anyway(
[01:21] <szal> SudoKing: separate from what?
[01:21] <SudoKing> i put my /home on a separate partition:)
[01:21] <Guest69286> Thanks RWW, Guest and SudoKing
[01:21] <SudoKing> makes me feel safer, at least
[01:21] <rww> I don't feel safe with repartitioning unless my data is on a drive that's not connected to the computer in question ;)
[01:21] <szal> SudoKing: then it'd make more sense to ask the question the other way around :P
[01:22] <Scunizi> In nautilus I have created several bookmarks.  When I'm online with a service to use and need to upload a file when I click "browse" a search window appears (nautilus?) but not all shortcuts are displayed.. How do I make them display ??
[01:22] <Guest69286> Yes, my hard drive is this: 1TB - 920 is NTFS and where I store the data. Then I have a 50GB rxt 4 - which has 10 GB extended and 10 GB swap
[01:23] <roasted> Question - has anybody here used Deja Dup? I just came across it today, and I love everything about the program, but I'm trying to see if there's a way to use this program (or something very similar to it) that automatically mounts CIFS shares and rsync's the data across the network, however, uncompressed. Any thoughts?
[01:23] <questionnnn> hi! today i bought a new laptop with an i5 2520m prozessor. its an dualcore prozessor with hyperthreading. it can handle 4 threads simultainly. i wanted to ask if i can install ubuntu 64bit on it
[01:23] <rww> questionnnn: yes
[01:24] <szal> Guest69286: you'll hardly ever need 10 GB of swap space..  unless you have that much RAM and do suspend-to-disk
[01:24] <questionnnn> ok thanks alot
[01:24] <Guest69286> Thanks Guest. I am learning  - hence silly questions. The box has 4 GB of RAM.
[01:25] <spankbot> anyone running MAME?
[01:26] <Guest69286> So, folks, to make sure I understand, I back up my data, then just slip in the CD and reinstall over the top of the existing installation?
[01:26] <rww> Guest69286: yup
[01:26] <Guest69286> No need to reformat the ext4 partition?
[01:26] <rww> Guest69286: nope
[01:27] <Guest69286> Thanks heaps RWWW
[01:27] <Guest69286> :)
[01:28] <jpl> hi people, is this the richt channel to ask for a hardware problem with ubuntu 11.4
[01:31] <jpl> ok, I'll just ask. I'm having trouble getting my huawei broadband modem to work with network manager after updating to 11.4
[01:31] <jpl> I deleted the old profiles and created a new one
[01:32] <hypoon> anybody got any bright ideas for testing a power supply (without having one to swap it with)
[01:32] <jpl> but even when I see in messages log that the modem is been detecte, nm is not enabling the connection
[01:32] <jpl> ideas??
[01:32] <ouyes> hypoon, what do you mean test?
[01:33] <hypoon> I want to verify that it is functioning properly, I'm getting sudden reboots.
[01:33] <hypoon> ouyes: it's sudden instant-off, and then it boots back up. It does not go through the shutdown process
[01:34] <jiohdi> hypoon, how long does it stay on?
[01:35] <ouyes> hypoon, you should go to hardware channel, but I think you need to reconfigure your bios setup?
[01:35] <hypoon> jiohdi: depends on how much I do. If I boot it up, log in, and leave it, it stays on much longer than if I boot it up, log in, and then open up firefox.
[01:35] <hypoon> ouyes: it worked great up until today
[01:35] <hypoon> ouyes: and we've had some moderate storms lately
[01:35] <jiohdi> hypoon, definitely does not sound like a hardware problem, hardware does not typically behave that way
[01:36] <pepsi> does the bios give you information like the voltage on each rail and the temperature of the cpu?
[01:36] <hypoon> ouyes: I didn't know there was a hardware channel
[01:36] <hypoon> pepsi: I'll check now
[01:36] <pepsi> ##hardware or ##electronics
[01:36] <ouyes> hypoon, you are talking about just one all a lot of computers?
[01:36] <ouyes> hypoon, channel name ##hardware
[01:36] <hypoon> ouyes: well, one out of two in this building
[01:37] <pepsi> the other computer sounds like a good donor for a PSU for testing
[01:37] <jiohdi> hypoon, there may be a power transistor that breaks down when it gets too hot, but your description seems more software/bios related
[01:37] <hypoon> jiohdi: any idea how I can verify that it is a software problem?
[01:38] <jiohdi> live cd
[01:38] <jiohdi> that will take out your os as a culprit anyways
[01:38] <jiohdi> it will still leave the bios
[01:38] <enav> hello... im adding a printer form a shared windows machine to my ubuntu 10.10....... what driver version should i select from the list?????
[01:38] <enav> is ahp D1600
[01:39] <bigeye> I have a question. Can I change default messanger to pidgin? I want to launch pidgin when I click Chat button on the top panel.
[01:39] <hypoon> pepsi: System temp: 37C/98F , CPU temp: 61C/141F, System Fan: 0RPM, CPU Fan: 3054 RPM, CPU Vcore: 1.36V, 12V: 11.91V, 3.3V: 3.346V, 5V: 5.10V, VBat: 3.34V, 5V SB: 5.02V
[01:40] <roasted> Question - has anybody here used Deja Dup? I just came across it today, and I love everything about the program, but I'm trying to see if there's a way to use this program (or something very similar to it) that automatically mounts CIFS shares and rsync's the data across the network, however, uncompressed. Any thoughts?
[01:40] <hypoon> pepsi: of course, they vary a little bit around those numbers. Temperatures have increased to 39C and 64C since I typed that
[01:41] <pepsi> what processor?
[01:41] <XuMuK> roasted, i was using it some time ago with amazon storage
[01:41] <jiohdi> hypoon, temp can be a factor... check your fans to make sure they are not caked with crap and running properly
[01:41] <roasted> XuMuK, I love it, but I REALLY want to sync raw data. I asked the devs if it was an upcoming feature and they said no, that wasnt their target.
[01:41] <roasted> XuMuK, it was so depressing to hear that, as its such a solid application
[01:42] <roasted> XuMuK, do you know of any other apps that have the same functionality yet can sync raw data?
[01:42] <jiohdi> hypoon, though the temp thing is often not power supply problem by video card or main processor
[01:42] <jiohdi> by=but*
[01:42] <XuMuK> roasted, rsyns via sftp
[01:43] <XuMuK> rsync*
[01:43] <hypoon> pepsi: I'm sorry to say that I don't know what processor this is, I'm not very familiar with this machine
[01:43] <tmg> anyone experienced with webkit building from surces, best if on 11.04 ?
[01:43] <roasted> XuMuK, I was hoping for an easy to use gui :(
[01:43] <ntr0py> Is there something like grub2-extras for ubuntu?
[01:43] <XuMuK> roasted, there are few frontend for rsync there
[01:43] <ntr0py> i need http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/grub-extras/915resolution/files
[01:43] <roasted> XuMuK, any you recommend?
[01:44] <pepsi> hypoon, so try a live cd or swap the psu with the other computer temporarily
[01:44] <hypoon> pepsi: yeah, I don't have any other PSU's on hand. I'm making a live-usb now
[01:44] <XuMuK> roasted, i don't use them anymore, i couldn't say you right now... ask google)
[01:44] <pepsi> hypoon, you said you have 2 computers
[01:44] <roasted> XuMuK, been there. tried about 10 of them. none compare to deja dup, yet I want RAW data. gahh.
[01:45] <hypoon> pepsi: yes, but the other machine's PSU is underpowered for this machine
[01:45] <brad_> I think I've found a bug regarding the ath5k driver for my AR5414 atheros chipset in my laptop. It will not list any wireless APs at all on 11.04 (of Ubuntu & Kubuntu & Fedora 15 beta.. so I think it's a kernel issue)
[01:45] <XuMuK> roasted, yeah, deja dup compress it all
[01:45] <hypoon> pepsi: this machine has dual 1TB's in a raid0
[01:46] <roasted> XuMuK, and it auto mounts cifs shares, something none of the others did. its SO convenient...
[01:46] <brad_> I am new to submitting bug reports so if someone could help me does so I would greatly appreciate it as my wireless no longer works.
[01:46] <hypoon> pepsi: it's a desktop machine though, not a server.
[01:46] <XuMuK> roasted, as i sad, i didn't use them with cifs, but with remote amazon storage
[01:47] <pepsi> hypoon, personally, i'd try it anyhow.. but i've never cared about my power supplies much, even with 4 or 5 hard drives
[01:47] <roasted> XuMuK, yeah :(
[01:47] <hypoon> pepsi: I'll see if they can be swapped. I don't know if the other PSU has sata power on it or not, I'll look in a moment
[01:48] <hypoon> another weird thing is that it doesn't reboot on me if I go into recovery mode
[01:48] <hypoon> but it does if I boot an older kernel
[01:48] <hypoon> (not in recovery mode)
[01:49] <pepsi> maybe your graphics card hates you
[01:49] <hypoon> pepsi: that's why I'm curious how the liveUSB will perform
[01:50] <spankbot> I can't believe its so diff to get MAME running in LNX, there is no consolidated documentation..
[01:50] <MrGizmo> i am getting Lost of Screen tearing with The ATI  Xord drivers. dose anybody know how to fix this issue?
[01:50] <roasted> Question - has anybody used gnome scheduler? I set up a recurring task but it doesn't seem to run, even tho it's set to run at every minute of the day. Meanwhile if I execute the command manually, it works fine.
[01:54] <Loshki> hypoon: consider running a memtest overnight to verify the hardware?
[01:55] <Loshki> roasted: which command? Have you tried it under 'at' or via 'crontab'? I dunno much about gnome scheduler...
[01:55] <Belial`> is anyone familiar with vgaswitheroo?
[01:55] <spankbot> Anyone know about MAME?
[01:55] <ouyes> hypoon, what situation are you facing? tell us what happened exactly
[01:56] <spankbot> What can you tell me about MAME
[01:56] <Sidd1217> Am I in the right place.  Noob here, have an odd question about installing ubuntu.
[01:56] <TurkuSama> <- curious about mame as well
[01:56] <foul_owl> Hello. Natty installer does not detect my hard drive, yet nautilus from the live cd sees it fine and I can read and write data to it from nautilus. Running a raid 1 on an integrated SIL3114 on my Asus A8N motherboard. Thanks!
[01:57] <roasted> Loshki, I just found it on accident and thought "oh that might be a nicer way to set jobs than crontab"
[01:57] <arand> Sidd1217: Ask away, otherwise no one will answer.
[01:57] <Loshki> Sidd1217: this is the right place, just ask your question and if someone knows they may answer...
[01:57] <roasted> Loshki, I may be deploying ubuntu at work so I'm trying to find gui apps so certain people dont crap themselves.
[01:58] <spankbot> TurkuSama If I were running Windows f*n 98 through Win7, I'd have MAME up in 5 min with ROMs.  But as always LNX documentation is non-conclusive or up to date on how to get it running.
[01:58] <cirwin> what's the simplest program I can use to crop an image?
[01:58] <hypoon> ouyes: The computer booted up today. I logged in. Shortly afterward, the screen went black, and I started to boot up again. Rinse and repeat ;-)
[01:58] <roasted> Question - with cron, how can I set a job to run at login?
[01:58] <Sidd1217> Perhaps somebody will answer.  I'm booting 11.04 off of a cd.  It won't install due to [error 5]...I think there's a scratch on the disc.  I thought I'd install via a flash drive, but I now know this old box won't boot from usb.
[01:58] <hi> hello
[01:59] <TurkuSama> i can't help you there, i've tried searching on google
[01:59] <spankbot> cirwin GIMP
[01:59] <hi> can anyone tell me why backtrack crashed
[01:59] <TurkuSama> i was going to lurk here for awhile till someone answered you
[01:59] <Sidd1217> My question is, is there a way I can install *from* the ubuntu flash drive, while running from the ubuntu cd.
[01:59] <cirwin> spankbot: that's the "simplest", seriously... I might as well use imagemagick
[01:59] <Guest27996> can anyone tell me why backtrack crashed
[01:59] <aeon-ltd> hi: ask in #backtrack
[01:59] <Loshki> roasted: well, if you want to debug this, I'd still start by seeing if you can get it to run ok with at or crontab
[01:59] <bastidrazor> Guest27996: because backtrack is not Ubuntu
[01:59] <ouyes> hypoon, horrible, what gave you by unam -a?
[01:59] <spankbot> cirwin  it's LNX, nothing is meant to be simplest
[01:59] <aeon-ltd> !backtrack | Guest27996
[01:59] <hypoon> Loshki: I ran memtest, it said everything was OK. I only ran one pass though
[02:00] <nejode> cirwin, shotwell, fotoxx
[02:00] <roasted> Loshki, it works fine if I run it manually. I almost think its just the program itself as it has some options Im not sure of.
[02:00] <cirwin> nejode: thanks
[02:00] <ouyes> hypoon, and what is your computer type or model?
[02:00] <hypoon> ouyes: I just booted off of a liveUSB
[02:00] <hypoon> ouyes: it's a custom built machine, I don't remember the processor. 512MB of ram, dual 1TB sata's in RAID0
[02:00] <hypoon> ouyes: ubuntu 10.4.2 LTS
[02:01] <hypoon> ouyes: recovery mode seems stable, but neither this kernel nor the previous kernel are, it reboots either way.
[02:02] <hypoon> ouyes: it seems to last longer if I don't do anything than if I open firefox, etc...
[02:02] <Loshki> roasted: the environment in which the commands run delayed isn't exactly the same as when running from the cli. That's why I wondered about running under crontab. Also consider running from a shell script and adding echo statements so you can see when the script starts and ends...
[02:02] <roasted> Loshki, have you used any rsync gui apps by chance?
[02:02] <ccallahan> Hey, has anyone had issues running applications under WINE and losing their sound?
[02:02] <hypoon> well
[02:02] <hypoon> that was interesting
[02:03] <hypoon> running off of my liveUSB
[02:03] <hypoon> I rebooted
[02:03] <hypoon> must be hardware
[02:03] <Loshki> roasted: sorry, I don't use gui stuff much at all (I find them often buggy). I do use rsync from the command line, though...
[02:04] <roasted> Loshki, as do I. just trying to find gui alternatives for some stuff to ease a certain group of people into linux ::
[02:04] <roasted> :P
[02:04] <TurkuSama> [ubuntu 11.04]  how do i change my desktop icons to whatever .png or .ico I want?
[02:04] <Loshki> roasted: I understand. Maybe write a shell script for them instead?
[02:04] <roasted> Loshki, thats possible too. I just thought it would be easier to find an app that doenst suck, considering theres like 12 to choose from
[02:05] <Loshki> hypoon: lshw should tell you lots about your hardware. Did you run memtest overnight?
[02:05] <roasted> Loshki, the problem is each app has a shining featur about it the others dont have. if only i could just combine them all...
[02:05] <Loshki> roasted: I'd trade 11 of those apps for one which really works well.... :-(
[02:06] <roasted> Loshki, there is one that works super well, but it only supports compression. i want to sync raw data as this file server is also a media server. i cant relaly stream data thats tarballed. ya know?
[02:06] <nwmcsween> hey serge what needs to be finished in userns? maybe I can help out
[02:06] <nwmcsween> hallyn
[02:06] <roasted> Loshki, the devs on launchpad said they hadnt intended to support raw transmission of data. im tempted to offer a fat donation if they do, as that kind of app would be a true blessing to have at owrk.
[02:07] <Cube``> how can i install python2.5 pip on ubuntu 11.04?
[02:07] <Loshki> roasted: what exactly are you trying to do?
[02:07] <multipass> my 10.10 live usb keeps stalling on the "preparing to install ubuntu" tab.. any idea what its doing?
[02:08] <roasted> Loshki, I want a program that does the following. auto mount a CIFS share and rsync all data in raw format to the CIFS share. I'd also like it to do it at certain times with a scheduler
[02:08] <Sidd1217> How can I read/install Ubuntu 11.04 from a bootable USB flash drive while running off of a Ubuntu 11.04 cd?  Long story.
[02:08] <roasted> Loshki, grsync does this, but has no scheduler or auto mount. deja dup does this, but only supports compression, no raw data. luckybackup wont sync files for me, only empty directories (dont ask, i have no idea)
[02:09] <nwmcsween> hallyn what needs to be finished with userns maybe I can help out
[02:09] <jack-> question: which ones are the coolest games you have for ubuntu?
[02:09] <Loshki> roasted: well personally, I would script it, using mount & rsync, and invoke it from crontab....
[02:09] <jack-> xonotic?
[02:09] <roasted> Loshki, that may be my only choice here, but I felt like I was so close woth deja dup
[02:09] <foul_owl> Hello. Natty installer does not detect my hard drive, yet nautilus from the live cd sees it fine and I can read and write data to it from nautilus. Running a raid 1 on an integrated SIL3114 on my Asus A8N motherboard. Thanks!
[02:10] <roasted> Loshki, its even coming on the livecd of 11.10 and fedora 13.  its a really solid application, like macs back in time or time machine or whatever that thing is.
[02:10] <roasted> Loshki, ive tested it extensively, it works spot on. I just wish it wasnt tarballs :/
[02:10] <Cube``> how can i install python2.5 pip on ubuntu 11.04?
[02:12] <Loshki> roasted: generally, if it has a gui, it's not usually designed to run unattended...
[02:12] <roasted> Loshki, I fail to see why that would be an issue. the thing runs in the background without issue.
[02:13] <gangsjen> Sorry about that.
[02:13] <quint> ok so i have run into an issue after installing from a usb made with unetbootin
[02:13] <quint> my fresh installation will not start unless the usb is inserted
[02:14] <shawn_> i am looking for someone to help me answer some questions
[02:14] <quint> i have a feeling i should install grub to the hard drive from the live image on the usb, does that sound like the right thing to do?
[02:14] <Loshki> roasted: generally, if there's a gui, it was designed for someone to sit there and interact. It doesn't *have* to be that way, but mostly it is. Let me know if you need scripting help. Otherwise, try a 2nd opinion...
[02:14] <shawn_> how many workspaces does ubuntu support?
[02:15] <Skaperen> shawn_: how do you think you could possibly find such people without letting people know what the questions are?
[02:15] <multipass> my ubuntu keeps freezing after i click forward on the "preparing to install ubuntu" step, where it has the 3 green checkmarks... do i need to download a new iso?
[02:15] <roasted> Loshki, I fail to see how it requires someone to interact if it was designed with a scheduler, though...
[02:15] <Skaperen> shawn_: define "workspace"
[02:15] <roasted> Loshki, because, if thats the case, whats the excuse for cron being acceptable?
[02:15] <quint> anyone have advice for me?
[02:16] <quint> just dont wanna go do something i shouldnt lol
[02:16] <roasted> quint, I wonder if the boot record is on the usb drive, somehow
[02:16] <Skaperen> quint: what are you trying to accomplish?
[02:16] <roasted> quint, what error do you get if theres no usb drive in?
[02:16] <quint> no error just blinking cursor (bios i think)
[02:17] <quint> mbr is on usb most likely
[02:17] <roasted> quint, id restore grub, but direct it to the hard drive
[02:17] <quint> thats what i thought
[02:17] <roasted> quint, http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/how-to-recover-grub2-linux.html
[02:17] <quint> just needed a second opinion
[02:17] <roasted> ive used that before
[02:17] <roasted> about 3 days ago actually. haha
[02:17] <quint> thanks guys!
[02:17] <quint> much appreciated
[02:17] <Skaperen> quint: try something
[02:17] <roasted> good luck
[02:18] <Loshki> roasted: sorry, wish I could help better...
[02:18] <Skaperen> quint: if that doesn't work, try something else
[02:18] <quint> lol :P
[02:18] <quint> will do
[02:18] <roasted> Loshki, its okay, i just wasnt understanding your take on the unattended thing :P
[02:18] <Skaperen> quint: seriously ... I do things that way
[02:18] <Skaperen> quint: of course I have some background knowledge to help arrange the order of things to try in an optimal sequence
[02:19] <shawn_> skarpen, does ubuntu come with open office by default
[02:19] <roasted> no
[02:19] <roasted> libre office
[02:19] <hallyn> nwmcsween: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserNamespace
[02:19] <roasted> as of 11.04
[02:19] <roasted> previous versions came with open office
[02:19] <Skaperen> quint: if you ask "will X work" ... we answer "let us know after you try it"
[02:19] <hypoon> Loshki: I didn't let it run overnight, no. It took about 15 minutes to do one pass, and I exited during the second pass. Pardon me while I swap PSUs with another machine I forgot was around.
[02:19] <Skaperen> quint: unless, of course, we've already done exactly what you are asking about
[02:20] <quint> ok i'll report back with result in a few
[02:20] <sroy2> is there a bootloader that can handle more than 4 OSes? I think grub is capped out at 3
[02:20] <quint> thanks :)
[02:20] <Skaperen> quint: you've mentioned usb and grub and booting ... somehow I wonder if you are trying to make an ISO bootable on a flash drive
[02:20] <roasted> Skaperen, he already did. thats how he installed ubuntu.
[02:20] <hallyn_afk> nwmcsween: look at the recent userns patches applied to Linus' tree - first step is converting remaining capable calls to ns_capable when appropriate, and converting remaining userid checks to be userns aware.
[02:21] <Cube``> how can i install python2.5 pip on ubuntu 11.04? guys seriously this can not be that hard
[02:21] <Skaperen> roasted: OK ... and did you notice what his trouble was?
[02:21] <jimmyxu> Anyone idea of how to add a new keyboard shortcut under GNOME 3? The "+" button in gnome-control-center is grayed out.
[02:21] <roasted> Skaperen, his issue is now that ubuntu is installed, he cannot boot it WITHOUT the usb drive he installed from
[02:21] <roasted> Skaperen, as if the MBR is on the flash drive, noit the proper hard drive
[02:21] <adexter> hello, my sound is not working with some programs, but I am able to test the speakers (and headphones) just fine. does anybody know how to better diagnose this?
[02:22] <newmar> anyone has a ubuntu 11.04 installed in a toshiba satelitte u505 notebook
[02:22] <Skaperen> roasted: ah ... then the installer ended up putting grub in the wrong place
[02:22] <Loshki> roasted: well, there *are* guis whose purpose is to schedule things in the background. I'm just saying that the vast majority of them aren't designed for batch use, which they probably were not designed/tested for...
[02:22] <xiamx> my system load is 7.6 while cpu usage is only about 5% avg, what could be wrong?
[02:22] <roasted> Loshki, well considering that one app is going to be preinstalled on ubuntu 11.10s live cd and fedora 13, id give it the benefit of the doubt it was tested :P
[02:23] <roasted> Loshki, but I undertstand
[02:23] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know how i can point localhost.com toward localhost on my machine? I tried adding '<IP_ADDRESS> localhost.com' to my hosts file and restarting but it didn't work
[02:24] <Skaperen> Flynsarmy: that would be it for those programs that would check /etc/hosts ... but not all do
[02:25] <_Neytiri_> i am having a issue playing HD video files on my system, the video is freesing up and skipping, the audio is fine tho and i am useing 100% of my cpu's
[02:25] <Loshki> roasted: we'll just have to disagree on that point :-). When deadlines get tight, testing is often the last thing done and the first thing to be skimped on....
[02:25] <Flynsarmy> Skaperen: i was using the browser. i'd expect it to check the file?
[02:25] <Skaperen> Flynsarmy: are you running your own DNS cache server?  If not, you could.  Put a zone file in it for localhost.com
[02:25] <stbain> Flynsarmy, when you ping localhost.com from a command line, what IP address does it resolve to?
[02:25] <roasted> Loshki, well, so far its the one backup program that worked predictably for me each time, so Ill still give it a +1 :P
[02:26] <Flynsarmy> stbain: <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:26] <Skaperen> Flynsarmy: I don't know if firefox does or not ... but I know it doesn't re-read /etc/resolv.conf readily, so it appears it may be doing its own non-standard lookups
[02:26] <musicMonster> where is the right place to set an environment variable?
[02:26] <Loshki> roasted: cool, let us know how you get on with automating it...
[02:26] <stbain> Flynsarmy, you should have a <IP_ADDRESS> line in /etc/hosts that already had localhost on it
[02:26] <tanath> why does the 11.04 upgrade want to remove banshee? i thought it was the new default?
[02:26] <Flynsarmy> stbain: by default /etc/hosts was blank
[02:27] <roasted> Loshki, well, that program is the one that only does compression. ill probably use it somewhere, but not everywhere, as i need raw data in some areas, remember? :P
[02:27] <foul_owl> Hello. Natty installer does not detect my hard drive, yet nautilus from the live cd sees it fine and I can read and write data to it from nautilus. Running a raid 1 on an integrated SIL3114 on my Asus A8N motherboard. Thanks!
[02:27] <Flynsarmy> stbain: ohhh i see! i was typing in /etc/host due to tabbing issues. i had it wrong. thanks!
[02:27] <Skaperen> Flynsarmy: it could be that the browser reads these files once and caches them ... if so, you'd have to quit the browser (not just close the window) and restart it, to have it re-read to pick up changes
[02:27] <stbain> Flynsarmy, just add a space and localhost.com to the end of the line... I just tried it. Worked for me.
[02:27] <Loshki> musicMonster: depends on how long it should be around, and who should see it. ~/.bashrc is often a good choice...
[02:27] <stbain> shouldn't even need to reboot, just restart browser
[02:28] <Skaperen> Flynsarmy: ah ... wrong name would do it
[02:28]  * Skaperen ran into a bug today with a program that could not read /etc/resolv.conf at all ... because of apparmor
[02:29] <tanath> isn't banshee the default media player in 11.04?
[02:29]  * hypoon hates stubborn motherboard connectors
[02:29] <roasted> yes
[02:29] <_Neytiri_> i am having a issue playing HD video files on my system, the video is freesing up and skipping, the audio is fine tho and i am using 100% of my cpu's it does it with vlc media player and Movie player
[02:30] <Skaperen> hypoon: hate them more if they fall off
[02:30] <tanath> roasted, then why does the upgrade to 11.04 want to remove it?
[02:30] <stbain> Since upgrading to Natty, my laptop no longer hibernates. Anyone have a link to explanation / fix that I can research on? Found a few searching but nothing definitive yet.
[02:30] <musicMonster> Loshki: well im trying to setup the go programming and it says i need to add /home/go/bin to my path
[02:30] <roasted> tanath, i have no idea. i dont normally do upgrades to be honest wiht you
[02:30] <hypoon> Skaperen: o.O how'd you manage that?
[02:31] <Skaperen> hypoon: didn't happen to me ... happened to one of the people that was testing the documentation
[02:31] <Skaperen> hypoon: but it wasn't her fault ... it looked like a bad soldering job
[02:32] <Loshki> musicMonster: if it's for just one user, I would add it to the PATH in ~/.bashrc, then logout & login again & check the value of PATH
[02:32] <hypoon> Skaperen: I was thinking, somebody must have had some serious overheating issues if they desoldered the motherboard connector!
[02:32] <shawn_> how many workspaces can you set up
[02:32] <musicMonster> Loshki: oh ok i didnt logout perfect I will try that. Thank you.
[02:32] <Skaperen> hypoon: it broke off when she was trying to connect it ... looked like bad manufacturing
[02:33] <hypoon> Skaperen: wow
[02:33] <Cube``> how can i install python2.5 pip on ubuntu 11.04? guys seriously this can not be that hard
[02:33] <Loshki> shawn_: how many do you need?
[02:33] <hypoon> Skaperen: I guess I shouldn't be so surprised, I got a board in the mail yesterday where a SMD LED fell off
[02:33] <Skaperen> hypoon: it was a mini-PCI, like the kind Wifi board plug into inside routers and laptops, but it was added to the edge of the board in a weak way
[02:33] <ksyw> why do all distros have a slower keyboard response than mac and windows?
[02:34] <aeon-ltd> ksyw: they don't normally
[02:34] <_Neytiri_> i am having a issue playing HD video files on my system, the video is freesing up and skipping, the audio is fine tho and i am using 100% of my cpu's it does it with vlc media player and Movie player, i am running 10.4 with 2 gigs of ram, dule core 3.6 ghz
[02:34] <ksyw> aeon-ltd: they dont normally what
[02:34] <hypoon> damn, this PSU doesn't have the four pin CPU power
[02:34] <pylix> the wireless article really saved me. thank you Ubuntu for great documentation. was difficult to get the network up with no network connection
[02:34] <aeon-ltd> ksyw: they don't normally have slower res[onse
[02:34] <aeon-ltd> *respone
[02:34] <Skaperen> hypoon: there are adapters for that
[02:34] <aeon-ltd> *response
[02:35] <hypoon> Skaperen: no adapters in my pockets though :-/
[02:35] <ksyw> aeon-ltd: so your saying you cannot see a difference in speed/response when you type on linux and windows'?
[02:35] <aeon-ltd> ksyw: no, unless under heavy load
[02:35] <shawn_> loshki im wondering how many it supports. its for a class exam
[02:35] <ksyw> heavy load as in what do you mean aeon-ltd
[02:35] <hypoon> Skaperen: I was feeling lucky when I had a sata power adapter on me
[02:36] <aeon-ltd> ksyw: cpu near maxing out
[02:37] <teddyroosebelt> :p
[02:37] <ksyw> aeon-ltd: ok, im surprised you cannot see it
[02:37] <Skaperen> hypoon: about every 3 years they have to make up new connector types to maintain a revenue stream of people buying stuff
[02:37] <ksyw> aeon-ltd: if you type something fast on windows and fast on lets say ubuntu.. you cant see that the lettrs show up on windows faster?
[02:38] <aeon-ltd> ksyw: no
[02:38] <ksyw> aeon-ltd: hmm
[02:39] <foul_owl> ksyw: I notice this in gnome and gtk based distros
[02:39] <foul_owl> But those are memory hogs
[02:39] <ksyw> foul_owl: oh ya?
[02:39] <foul_owl> Running fluxbox rather than metacity works great
[02:40] <ksyw> foul_owl: whicj distros have a better keyboard response... the non gnomes?
[02:40] <hypoon> foul_owl: I like dwm, nice and fast
[02:40] <foul_owl> metacity, nautilus, and firefox all use waaaay too much memory for me
[02:40] <foul_owl> not to mention pretty much all gtk apps
[02:41] <foul_owl> i use ubuntu, but install fluxbox, midori, and the x file mamanger
[02:41] <foul_owl> *manager
[02:41] <_Neytiri_> i am having a issue playing HD video files on my system, the video is freesing up and skipping, the audio is fine tho and i am using 100% of my cpu's it does it with vlc media player and Movie player, i am running 10.4 with 2 gigs of ram, dule core 3.6 ghz, any idea on how to fix this?
[02:41] <ksyw> foul_owl: what about kde?
[02:41] <foul_owl> I honestly have not tried it
[02:41] <marca311> _Neytiri_: What is your video card?
[02:41] <ksyw> ok
[02:42] <foul_owl> openarena, mplayer, etc all run great with the fluxbox setup, but choke under gnome
[02:42] <_Neytiri_> hmm thats a tough one, i dont know off hte top of my head , but let me look
[02:42] <marca311> k
[02:42] <foul_owl> i have been meaning to write a tutorial about my setup
[02:42] <hypoon> I love running mplayer using the framebuffer driver
[02:43] <_Neytiri_> its a nvidia gforce 9400
[02:43] <_Neytiri_> 9400 GT
[02:43] <marca311> _Neytiri_: there's your problem, the drivers for that vid card are not quite supported yet
[02:43]  * ksyw passes gas
[02:44] <foul_owl> i think linux distros need to focus on keeping apps lightweight, not everyone can afford new hardware, not to mention windows 2000 had a responsive gui running with a pentium 2 and 64 mb of ram
[02:44] <TurkuSama> anything that can change my gui or skin for ubuntu 11.04?
[02:44] <ksyw> I actually heard  2000 was more stable than xp
[02:44] <_Neytiri_> really? its been working fine for a lot of things non hd video, included
[02:44] <marca311> _Neytiri_: maybe find some proprietary (gasp!) drivers or get a different video card
[02:44] <marca311> _Neytiri_: oh? hmm
[02:45] <_Neytiri_> i am useing the nvidia drives for linux
[02:45] <marca311> _Neytiri_: how big is this file you are trying to play?
[02:45] <foul_owl> i had been trying to find what was slowing things down so much for me, and finally i narrowed it down to gnome apps
[02:45] <_Neytiri_> 12.7 Gb
[02:45] <fluffman> on unity 2d, my mouse scroll wheel does not change the volume. this works fine in unity 3d. is this normal?
[02:46] <foul_owl> gnome terminal is too much of a hog too, xterm is way faster for me
[02:46] <marca311> _Neytiri_: hmm, have you tried the video on a different OS on the same computer?
[02:46] <szal> marca311: what the hell are you talking about?  GF9 is far from brand new..
[02:47] <fluffman> foul_owl: I've not had a problem with gnome-terminal. plus, other terminals don't display byobu applets properly :(
[02:47] <marca311> szal: did I say something about the age?
[02:47] <_Neytiri_> ya worked fine when i was useing microcrap
[02:47] <szal> marca311: you seemed to imply something along these lines
[02:47] <marca311> szal: whoops, i had no intention of doing so
[02:48] <Zelozelos> when I chage cursors the default white one is still there, sometimes the new cursor will show in windows or when i select a window border. what do i need 2 do to change the cursor for everything?
[02:48] <szal> [03:43:56] <marca311> _Neytiri_: there's your problem, the drivers for that vid card are not quite supported yet <- or what did you mean by that?
[02:48] <foul_owl> My laptop is a pentium 3 with 256 mb ram. i know hardware is cheap, but i don't want to jsut throw it out, i know a gui os can run fine on it
[02:48] <marca311> szal: I've had a lot of problems with Nvidia and Ubuntu
[02:49] <marca311> _Neytiri_: I would suggest either find some way to reduce load on your graphics card or get a new one
[02:50] <tumenjargal> hi all
[02:50] <tumenjargal> i've big problem
[02:50] <wisien> where can i find bash history logged?
[02:50] <chaw> hello, I was wondering if there is a version of ubuntu that I can run on an intel 64 chip
[02:50] <_Neytiri_> i have tried it with nothing but the gui and the media playter running and no avail
[02:51] <tumenjargal> E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'multiarch-support'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[02:51] <chaw> wisien: .history
[02:51] <chaw> you can also run history from bash
[02:51] <tumenjargal> this error help me
[02:51] <chaw> history | grep 'what youre looking for'
[02:51] <marca311> chaw: most of them can
[02:52] <chaw> is the only 64 bit version for amd?
[02:52] <tumenjargal> yes 64 bit version
[02:52] <symptom> hello is there some issue with ubuntu's ppa's I keep getting the package could not be authenticated issue.
[02:52] <fluffman> chaw: no.
[02:52] <chaw> :\ so I should get the x86 version then?
[02:52] <fluffman> 64 works on new intel chips
[02:52] <chaw> amd64 works on new intel chips? i7? ? :D fluffman you would make my day
[02:52] <fluffman> it's just called amd_64 because amd developed it
[02:52] <wisien> what is gui tool for managing services in ubuntu?
[02:53] <chaw> <3 awesome
[02:53] <marca311> chaw: it should there is minimal difference
[02:53] <fluffman> chaw: you're welcome. enjoy ubuntu! :D
[02:53] <marca311> fluffman: indeed
[02:53] <chaw> i'm running 10.04 here
[02:53] <edwintodd> how do I install a *.tar file with USB?
[02:54] <chaw> narwhal is alpha?
[02:54] <tumenjargal> have any solution?
[02:54] <symptom> hello is there some issue with ubuntu's ppa's I keep getting the package could not be authenticated issue.
[02:54] <marca311> edwintodd: explain more plz
[02:54] <tumenjargal> Linux tumenjargal 2.6.38-8-generic-pae #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 05:17:09 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[02:54] <tumenjargal> my computer
[02:54] <edwintodd> marc311, wireless driver down, ethernet driver down, trying to install STA driver from USB
[02:54] <fluffman> edwintodd: .tar is like .zip. you don't install it. it's just a folder full of files
[02:55] <RavenHursT> Does anyone have any idea why in Features' hook_taxonomy_default_vocabularies_alter(&$vocabularies) I can var_dump($vocabularies['my_vocab']) and it gives me the vocab.. but when I run $vocabs = taxonomy_vocabulary_get_names() in the same place,  $vocabs['my_vocab'] returns NULL???
[02:55] <marca311> edwintodd: ah, have you unpacked the .tar file?
[02:55] <fluffman> chaw: 11.04 natty narwhal is the current stable release, but not as stable as the long term support like 10.04
[02:55] <edwintodd> marca311, no, how do I unpack?  With Ubuntu?
[02:55] <marca311> edwintodd: yes
[02:56] <marca311> edwintodd: you should be able to just doubleclick on it and extract it from there
[02:56] <RavenHursT> oh wait.. I think I just answered my own question... because the alter hook is running BEFORE the taxonomy defaults are actually getting saved to the db.. which explains why this was working when the vocab was already created.. der.. nm
[02:57] <RavenHursT> hmmm.. wonder which features hook I should write my "create these terms in the default vocab" code then... ?
[02:57] <Spaz_Dynamic> I just ran updates, and now flash isn't working? Kubuntu 11.04, chromium 11.0.696.65 (84435)
[02:57] <edwintodd> marca311, then what command do I use in terminal to install driver?
[02:58] <marca311> edwintodd: it depends what was in the file, was there a file called "configure"?
[02:58] <dylan_> does any one know what package the desktop notifications belong to?
[02:58] <cdoktor19> :)
[02:59] <fluffman> on unity 2d, my mouse scroll wheel does not change the volume. this works fine in unity 3d. is this normal?
[03:00] <hypoon> and the moment of truth, running on a different PSU. will it work?
[03:00] <trism> dylan_: there are several notification daemons, notify-osd is used by default in ubuntu, most programs use libnotify to send the notifications, notify-send in libnotify-bin can be used to send them from the command line
[03:00] <edwintodd> marca311, 'lib', 'src', 'makefile', no configure
[03:01] <marca311> edwintodd: sweet
[03:01] <dylan_> trism: thanks
[03:01] <marca311> edwintodd: go into terminal and go to that directory
[03:03] <edwintodd> marca311, at command line, what to type to see directory?
[03:03] <tumenjargal> help me
[03:03] <tumenjargal> [08:59] <tumenjargal> help me [08:59] <tumenjargal> dude [09:00] <tumenjargal> i'm try [09:00] <tumenjargal> sudo apt-get install xchat [09:00] <tumenjargal> then [09:00] <tumenjargal> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'multiarch-support'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details.  Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[03:03] <tumenjargal> this problem?
[03:04] <marca311> edwintodd: cd [insert directory here]
[03:04] <noob> hello guys
[03:04] <noob> im absolutely noob in linux
[03:04] <marca311> edwintodd: question, where did you extract it too
[03:04] <kzetts> Anyone know of a way to install Windows 7 on a machine, using PXE from an Ubuntu machine?
[03:04] <marca311> noob: really now?
[03:05] <edwintodd> marc311, when dir is typed, files are visble.
[03:05] <noob> can anybody help me figure things out? :)
[03:05] <stbain> kzetts, you may want to ask in #windows
[03:05] <edwintodd> marc311, home directory
[03:05] <noob> yes marca311 im very new to linux
[03:05] <kzetts> Why would I ask about installing from PXE FROM an Ubuntu box in #windows?
[03:05] <marca311> edwintodd: an easier way to do that is the command "ls"
[03:05] <LAcan> guys this is gonna sound stupid, but is there a windows registry editor for ubuntu?
[03:05] <marca311> edwintodd: so, where did you extract the files to?
[03:06] <edwintodd> marc311, home directory
[03:06] <tmg> kzetts: because you want to get windows?
[03:06] <edwintodd> files are visible when dir is entered
[03:06] <stbain> kzetts, it's a network Windows install, the PXE part is pretty straight forward
[03:07] <kzetts> Not really, what I want to know is how to mount any random ISO from a PXE host installed on an Ubuntu box. For all intents and purposes I could be installing VMWare ESX or Citrix Xen.
[03:07] <kzetts> The OS is irrevelent.
[03:07] <marca311> edwintodd: oh, sorry, didn't see the first time, in which case type "cd ~/[insert folder name here]
[03:07] <noob> can anybody help me with my phpmyadmin problem?. please
[03:07] <stbain> kzetts, ahhh, the PXE howto is probably your best bet
[03:07] <widewake> Helloo , is Qin in?
[03:07] <marca311> noob: i might be able to help, what is the problem?
[03:07] <Onryo> noob what is your prob?
[03:07] <widewake> qin
[03:07] <noob> wew tnx marca
[03:08] <rww> widewake: they've been idle for 3 hours
[03:08] <edwintodd> marc311, two folder names, "lib" and "src", which one?
[03:08] <LAcan> guys this is gonna sound stupid, but is there a windows registry editor for ubuntu?
[03:08] <widewake> oh ok
[03:08] <stbain> LAcan, I believe WINE ships with one
[03:08] <widewake> is there a way to see a userlist?
[03:08] <widewake> i can only see who is in by the chat text itself
[03:08] <marca311> edwintodd: oh you extracted it without a folder, oh, i see... in which case, type: "make"
[03:08] <widewake> im using xchat
[03:09] <JoeR1> E: Malformed line 60 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[03:09] <JoeR1> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[03:09] <JoeR1> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[03:09] <JoeR1> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[03:09] <FloodBot1> JoeR1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:09] <JoeR1> I would like to know how to rectify this error message
[03:09] <LAcan> stbain, ty
[03:09] <marca311> edwintodd: when that is done, type: "sudo make install" (as long as there were no errors)
[03:10] <Skaperen> what is wrong with the message?
[03:10] <JoeR1> anyone?
[03:10] <JoeR1> well it is keeping me from using apt-get or Synaptic
[03:10] <edwintodd> marc311, errors are listed, can I paste.ubuntu so you can see, would that help?
[03:10] <Skaperen> the sources file might be corrupt
[03:11] <Onryo> LAcan not like you are thinking in Windows. If you use WINE (Windows Is Not Emulated) there is a virtual registry so windows programs work. Nothing to do with your *nix userland
[03:11] <marca311> edwintodd: yes, that would help
[03:11] <stbain> JoeR1, what is on line 60
[03:11] <rww> JoeR1: open /etc/apt/sources.list, go to line 60, fix it...
[03:11] <janusauron> Hello TODOS PUTOS!!!!! means hello boys :)
[03:11] <Skaperen> can you show line 60 (just the one line) ?
[03:11] <JoeR1> stbain rww - thanks, I feel foolish after hearing that but thanks all the same
[03:11] <LAcan> Onryo, no, i need to gank a rootkitted registry key and cant do it from windows cuz of permissions..
[03:12] <edwintodd> marc311, http://paste.ubuntu.com/609284/
[03:12] <Onryo> LAcan you have a rootkit in your Kernel? Or just WINE?
[03:12] <drowningIW> sup guys?? how is everybody today? I dont know about you but I have been working on fing code all day. And i get home and plan to do some ftp work bc the fing boss is a demanding mfer... anyways i go to ftp and it says no route to hose even tho I can ping the host. what gives?
[03:13] <LAcan> i cleaned the infection Onryo , i just need to delete a few left over reg entries
[03:13] <stbain> LAcan, Perhaps give this a try: http://www.arsgeek.com/2008/02/27/use-your-ubuntu-partition-to-fix-a-corrupt-registry-on-a-windows-xp-partition/
[03:13] <drowningIW> my firewall is off and no iptables installed
[03:14] <marca311> edwintodd: what does this driver do?
[03:15] <drowningIW> no route to host shouldnt be their if I can ping the damn site?
[03:15] <qin> drowningIW: Your ftp is not running, ping server, or nmap can shed some night.
[03:15] <edwintodd> marca311, everything seemed OK (wl driver, ethernet driver) until I upgraded to 11.04, then the wireless stopped working.  This driver is from broadcom for a STA driver.  I don't have any internet connection on my laptop, so I can
[03:16] <edwintodd> marca311, can't use the software center.
[03:17] <JoeR1> Thanks guys I found out what was wrong, I forgot to put "main" at the end of some software sources
[03:17] <JoeR1> easy fix and I feel like a n idiot for doing it and for not thinking of how to fix it
[03:18] <marca311> edwintodd: hmm, check the page where you found the driver, see if it needs anything to be installed
[03:18] <drowningIW> no way these are burst .net work servers
[03:18] <drowningIW> i'll nmap the server
[03:18] <noob> marca heres the prob when i installed php5 and tried to restart apache it says "The apache error log may have more information (failed)"
[03:18] <Onryo> LAcan If you need to clean up I had some food in the oven. You you want to clean up cruft from your system
[03:18] <drowningIW> noob tail your etc/log/
[03:18] <noob> marca heres the prob when i installed php5 and tried to restart apache it says "The apache error log may have more information (failed)"
[03:18] <Onryo> LAcan  computer-janitor find
[03:19] <drowningIW> their should be an apache folder in their
[03:19] <Onryo> LAcan computer-janitor clean --all
[03:19] <drowningIW> and you can see the error
[03:19] <drowningIW> my apache log is in
[03:19] <drowningIW> /var/log/apache2
[03:20] <noob> ok wait
[03:20] <marca311> noob: check the apache log
[03:20] <marca311> dang, too late
[03:20] <drowningIW> hehe
[03:20] <noob> how do i check my apache log?
[03:20] <noob> :)
[03:20] <drowningIW> i have upgraded about 3 servers worht of websites from one host to another in the last
[03:20] <drowningIW> few weeks
[03:21] <drowningIW> along with crafting a social networking site and promoting MMA fights
[03:21] <tophu> how can I add a launcher for a java program to the unity launcher?
[03:21] <noob> how do i check my apache log?.im really sorry my name really says it all im a noob..
[03:21] <noob> :(
[03:21] <drowningIW> noob
[03:22] <qin> widewake: Here...
[03:22] <marca311> noob: "less /var/log/apache2/error.log"
[03:22] <noob> yup
[03:22] <drowningIW> tail error.log
[03:22] <drowningIW> OR you can say
[03:22] <marca311> noob: without the brackets
[03:22] <drowningIW> vi error.log
[03:22] <noob> tnx
[03:22] <drowningIW> tail error.log
[03:22] <drowningIW> it will bounce you into a
[03:22] <drowningIW> the editor
[03:22] <noob> il try it
[03:22] <drowningIW> type :quit to quit
[03:22] <drowningIW> type i to start typing
[03:22] <fluffman> tophu: right click on the desktop and create a launcher, then place it in ~/.local/share/applications and run it, then right click on it and keep it in the launcher
[03:22] <noob> ok copy
[03:22] <rww> or just use nano like a sane person
[03:22] <drowningIW> escape to get to main menu and :save filename
[03:22] <drowningIW> hehe
[03:23] <drowningIW> tail should do the job noob
[03:23] <marca311> or just straightup gedit or emacs
[03:23] <drowningIW> dog i use gedit for production level shit
[03:23] <drowningIW> i got scorned at the office but fuck them I get my shit done with gedit and its plugins
[03:23] <tophu> thanks fluff
[03:24] <rww> drowningIW: Watch your language, please.
[03:25] <Onryo> LAcan if you have had some windows stuff on your box you might want to do this after clamscan / -ir --exclude-dir=^/sys --exclude-dir=^/dev --exclude-dir=^/proc --detect-pua=yes --scan-mail=yes --log=/home/clamscan.log
[03:26] <kunu> do you have the problem that  the wireless adapter is often turned off automatically since upgrade to 11.04
[03:26] <edwintodd> marca311, check this out and see if my headers and tools are missing, http://paste.ubuntu.com/609290/
[03:26] <edwintodd> marca311, the paste is from the readme.txt file at broadcom's download site
[03:27] <Zelozelos> kunu wireless and bluetooth sometimes turn off on me, also bluetooth often dosent connect, i have to make it do it
[03:27] <noob> thank you guys. thank you drowningIW and marca11
[03:27] <Zelozelos> usually after a screensaver/power option has been invoked kunu
[03:27] <marca311> edwintodd: i'm guessing you don't have those packages, i'll send you links
[03:28] <leftiness> I recently purchased an RTL8191SEvB pci wireless card. I installed the driver and firmware on the disc. I have wireless connectivity. However, it drops out. When it drops out, the only way I can get it to connect again is by restarting. The only way I've managed to maintain connectivity is to keep a ping to google.com going. It seems that it drops out as soon as connectivity stops being ideal. Has anyone experienced anything like
[03:29] <Skaperen> leftiness: have you tried using all the different wireless channels?
[03:29] <marca311> edwintodd: actually you can get the packages you need at: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:30] <kunu> Zelozelos, no  ,I'm using ,turned off Suddenly
[03:30] <leftiness> Skaperen: I've tried channel 6, the default channel provided in wicd, as well as channel 9, the channel recommended in a forum, and channel auto. None seem to make a difference, though there may be something specifically required.
[03:30] <Onryo> leftiness that card is know for problems. What kernel are you using?
[03:30] <q_a_z_steve> What's the console apt-get FE which allows you to choose how to resolve deps?
[03:30] <Zelozelos> leftiness, marca311 is prob on the right track, check for channel interference, if u have an android phone theres an awesome app  that would be gr8 for it
[03:31] <Onryo> leftniness uname -a
[03:31] <qin> leftiness: There was no native drivers?
[03:31] <sc30317> I installed gnome-shell through the ppa repository, and now my screen isn't rendering properly.  Is there a known fix for this?
[03:32] <leftiness> Onryo: I realize that it's known for problems. I regret not checking that beforehand. I'm using kernel 2.6.38. I expect that the channel is the issue as it's the only lead I've noticed in forums, so I'm only checking here as a formality. I do have an Optimus V with Android 2.2, though I'm unsure how that would help.
[03:32] <marca311> edwintodd: brb
[03:32] <leftiness> qin: The drivers are native. I used the instructions provided in the readme to compile the driver from source. It works, though again it has quirks.
[03:33] <leftiness> I'll continue working with different channels. Thank you for the sanity check.
[03:33] <hypoon> hey all, to those who were helping me: swapping the PSU seems to have done the trick
[03:33] <hypoon> now I just need to order a new one I suppose
[03:33] <hypoon> thanks all!
[03:33] <qin> leftiness: By native I mean from ubuntu repos, not .deb from web or source.
[03:33] <Onryo> leftniness what does lsmod | grep r8192 show you?
[03:34] <kunu> Zelozelos, Have you   solved that problem
[03:34] <gremset> The regular upater update my flash on my 64 bit to 10.3, Now flash does not work on any of the browser (flash, chromium). How can I revert back?
[03:34] <Zelozelos> kunu nope, well sorta, i disable all the power options cept my screen turning off after an hour of inactivity
[03:35] <leftiness> qin: The driver probed is r8192se_pci. This seems accurate as I'm using an RTL8191SEvB wireless card, and I've read that the difference between 8192 and 8191 is only desktop and laptop sizing, that the driver is compatible with both.
[03:36] <Zelozelos> kunu u should check to see if theres an offical but report on it
[03:36] <qin> leftiness: May be some subtel compilation difference (to work better with Ubuntu kernel i.e.)
[03:36] <w0_> what exactally is zeitgeist?
[03:36] <Zelozelos> as for myself, ill just patiently wait for it to fix its self hahaaaa
[03:37] <leftiness> Again, thank you for the sanity check. The #ubuntu channel is always quick with helpful insights.
[03:37] <kunu> Zelozelos, Have you had this problem with before upgrade to 11.04
[03:37] <Zelozelos> kunu not at all, it all worked perfectly
[03:37] <Onryo> leftniness Well that problem was more or less fixed in 2.6.35 but some ppl still had problems. Often a BIOS update did the trick. Have you tried that?
[03:38] <kunu> Zelozelos,  and I am
[03:38] <qin> left...
[03:38] <Onryo> leftniness I am guessing your on a 64bit system.
[03:38] <JoeR1> hello folks, I need the terminal commmand that will list connected devices, does such a thing exust?
[03:39] <edwintodd> marca311, dizzy - I a true novice and with out internet on the computer packages and downloads are confusing.. any ideas?
[03:39] <fluffman> JoeR1: lsusb and lspci should work
[03:39] <qin> JoeR1: lsusb, lspci, lshw
[03:39] <fluffman> JoeR1: also dmsg | tail
[03:40] <fluffman> *dmesg
[03:41] <fluffman> edwintodd: http://keryxproject.org/
[03:41] <JoeR1> fluffman - very well, Now i need to find out what the device is named as by linux, for example I need to find it in the format /dev/device_here
[03:41] <pladijs_> how do i get gdm to execute my .xinitrc? It seems to have read it once and stored things in a session somewhere now.
[03:42] <fluffman> JoeR1: if it's a USB drive plugged in, then I just do "ls /dev | grep sd"
[03:42] <Guest74708> oh crap
[03:42] <marca311> edwintodd: type: "sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-generic
[03:42] <marca311> "
[03:42] <pladijs_> i want to tinker with scripts in .xinitrc, not have autosaved sessions and whatnot. i just want autologin from gdm. or should i drop gdm
[03:42] <squonk> okay that is strange
[03:43] <JoeR1> fluffman - it is a USB webcam and i cannot get Skype to produce video so I thought perhaps it had the wrong device name
[03:43] <methedman> how do i underclock my cpu for powersaving purposes
[03:43] <JoeR1> but after careful consideration i have decided this is most likely not the case
[03:43] <marca311> edwintodd: send me the output
[03:44] <fluffman> JoeR1: download cheese webcam booth
[03:44] <Zelozelos> anyone had any issues with the grub customizer changing the background and colors n stuff? i got the answer from the developer himself ;)
[03:44] <MarkSS> What program for Ubuntu can do stuff like Adobe: After Effects can?
[03:44] <JoeR1> fluffman can this be done with apt-get?
[03:44] <JoeR1> wait, yes it should be able to
[03:44] <marca311> edwintodd: all the things up to the part where it asks the (Y/N) question
[03:44] <JoeR1> i added a repository that allowed akype
[03:44] <fluffman> i've found that cheese is better at detecting webcams, and should tell you the /dev name
[03:45] <JoeR1> oh wait, cheese in in the software manager
[03:45] <fluffman> JoeR1: sudo apt-get install cheese
[03:46] <ubuntuguy> How do I reinstall a game that I purchased in the ubuntu software center?
[03:46] <fluffman> JoeR1: if cheese doesn't pick up the webcam, then you've probably got a camera that just won't work in linux
[03:46] <ubusammyn150> ok, the usb is tagged bootable,lba and is fat32.. why isnt the samsung n150 booting from usb when i tell it to?
[03:46] <soreau> ubuntuguy: What are you trying to accomplish by reinstalling it?
[03:46] <MarkSS> What program for Ubuntu can do stuff like Adobe: After Effects can?
[03:46] <fluffman> ubuntuguy: file > reinstall purchased apps
[03:46] <ubuntuguy> just want to know for future reference so when I do a fresh install
[03:47] <ubuntuguy> Thanks, I'll look for that
[03:47] <ubusammyn150> hmm
[03:47] <ubuntuguy> Thanks!
[03:48] <noob> im back :)
[03:48] <JoeR1> fluffman - the cam does work, it produces images through camorama
[03:48] <squonk> Purchased software!!! *covers ears* la la la can't hear you.. ;)
[03:48] <ubusammyn150> Is there something more i should do for this netbook, other then make a botable usb?
[03:48] <noob> does anybody here knows how to play world of warcraft in ubuntu?
[03:48] <ubusammyn150> lol
[03:48] <noob> :)
[03:48] <JoeR1> fluffman - cheese has also produced the correct image
[03:48] <ubusammyn150> noob, i think wine works?
[03:49] <cesar_> mmç
[03:49] <qin> noob: #winehq after visiting wine website
[03:49] <marca311> noob: the very easy way is to buy crossover games
[03:49] <fluffman> noob: google WOW wine. lots of info there
[03:49] <ubusammyn150> but warcraft i thought had a native linux version?
[03:49] <marca311> noob: but it is expensive
[03:49] <noob> tnx
[03:49] <noob> wew expensive? ouch..
[03:49] <squonk> okay that means I'll not be 'purchasing' that.
[03:50] <fluffman> JoeR1: dig around in cheese settings and such to see if you can find what the /dev name is
[03:50] <noob> i think im gonna forget playing now.. lol
[03:50] <skyshadow> noob:try the mana world its like wow and in the repos
[03:50] <fluffman> should just be /dev/webcam
[03:50] <squonk> fine I'll say windows has a use: To play Wow
[03:50] <noob> mana world?
[03:50] <ubusammyn150> noob yea, there are much better games to be playing i think..
[03:50] <noob> sudo apt-get manaworld?
[03:50] <JoeR1> fluffman - way ahead of you - /dev/video0 same as in skype
[03:50] <skyshadow> tmw
[03:50] <ubusammyn150> sword2  replaced wow for me and its free xD
[03:50] <fluffman> JoeR1: weird. should be working then. I'm out of ideas. Sorry. :(
[03:51] <squonk> noob: there are a ton of games and applications for linux that don't cost ya.
[03:51] <squonk> the repository is chock full of em
[03:51] <JoeR1> so maybe there is aa problem with missing packages needed in skype?
[03:51] <squonk> ;)
[03:51] <noob> how do i look for them
[03:51] <slinker1> squonk: check out auteria
[03:51] <ubusammyn150> noob, but i'm sure they'd appreciate a donation or two or more xD
[03:51] <noob> im really sorry i just installed ubuntu jsut this morning
[03:51]  * squonk nods to slinker1
[03:51] <fluffman> JoeR1: try removing that skype and installing from skype.com. that works for me
[03:51] <ubusammyn150> cool!
[03:51] <noob> :)
[03:51] <squonk> Awesome, noob!
[03:51] <squonk> I've had it for erm 4 days now
[03:52] <squonk> I'm in lurrrve.
[03:52] <ubusammyn150> xD
[03:52] <Reinier_Strobos> ok question about partitions
[03:52] <leigh> hearing a hollow sound when i play any audio, how do i fix this?
[03:52] <noob> how do i install  sword2 game?.:)
[03:52] <squonk> not to mention the kewl peeps helping out here ;)
[03:52] <noob> yeah
[03:52] <marca311> noob: ubuntu software center or synaptic package manager
[03:52] <JoeR1> fluffman - very well, one moment and I will report my results
[03:52] <ubusammyn150> *tries to google "how to boot from usb on a samsung n150"*
[03:52] <edwintodd> marca311, here the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/609294/
[03:53] <noob> cool indeed i mean i jsut discovered ican chat people with this OS
[03:53] <noob> lol feels like im not alone
[03:53] <Reinier_Strobos> so im  trying to dual boot ubuntu and windows: can i create one partition for windows, one for ubuntu, and one for files that can be accessed by both?
[03:53] <Reinier_Strobos> is that possible?
[03:53] <noob> although im really noob
[03:53] <squonk> noob: like he said... check out the synaptic package manager or the ubuntu software support center.... if you are using gnome,. it should be on the action bar on the left side.
[03:53] <marca311> edwintodd: oh, jeez, that complicates it
[03:53] <squonk> :)
[03:53] <squonk> it is on my install anyway.
[03:54] <noob> ok tnx..marca and squonk
[03:54] <noob> your a life saver.. :)
[03:54] <edwintodd> not a good sign... shall I try a fresh install of 11.04
[03:55] <marca3111> edwintodd: no, definitely not
[03:56] <squonk> marca is
[03:56] <Reinier_Strobos> so im trying to dual boot ubuntu and windows: can i create one partition for windows, one for ubuntu, and one for files that can be accessed by both? I understand the concept of a swap partition but can i just have all the files be on that swap partition and then access them all from each os?
[03:56] <squonk> I'm new too.
[03:56] <marca3111> edwintodd: try the second command on the list: sudo apt-get build-dep linux
[03:56] <squonk> I just remember what I've learned in here and playing around.
[03:56] <noob> i think im gonna hang here from this point onwards :)
[03:56] <ubusammyn150> reiner swap is virtual memory..
[03:57] <squonk> kk who want's bbq chicken n tater wedgies?
[03:57] <noob> but im gonna change my nick...hmm
[03:57] <noob> meee...
[03:57] <noob> wew
[03:57]  * squonk grins and goes to have dinner.
[03:57] <fluffman> Reinier_Strobos: that's not what swap is for.
[03:57] <marca311> me!
[03:57] <noob> :)
[03:57] <fluffman> Reinier_Strobos: you don't need a partition to hold files for both. Ubuntu can read Windows files just fine.
[03:57] <ubusammyn150> Reinier_Strobos, also ubuntu can see files on both drives/parts but windows see's only windows stuff
[03:57] <rayy> ok
[03:57] <rayy> ok
[03:57] <leigh> how do i fix the karaoke effect in my audio? all of my music and audio is like this
[03:58] <noob> wew!..my brother just arrived tnx for the tips guys..:)
[03:58] <marca311> ubusammyn150: you can install software on windows to see your ubuntu partition
[03:58] <edwintodd> marca3111, http://paste.ubuntu.com/609297/
[03:58] <ubusammyn150> rayy, it may be possible to load a virtual machine in windows to run your linux in windows
[03:58] <fluffman> leigh: do you have like a feed back loop? try mucking with the settings in your audio menu
[03:58] <noob> like virtual box?
[03:58] <ubusammyn150> oh cool, ty marca
[03:59] <rayy> yes i have wubi on this computer but I want to try to dual boot
[03:59] <marca311> ubusammyn150: i believe it's called EXT2 IFS
[03:59] <berefeira> running natty on intel x-25m G1...looking good so far :)
[03:59] <pyfon> close to giving up, tried everything but can't get wifi working on asus 1001p eee pc, ubuntu 10.10
[03:59] <pyfon> any help?
[03:59] <marca311> pyfon: what is the wireless card?
[03:59] <ubusammyn150> isnt that compatable with the ralink drivers?
[04:00] <leigh> fluffman - where do i find the audio menu? i see the sound settings in preferences
[04:00] <rayy> ok so windows is installed and when using the prepare disk utility on ubuntu how do i determine the size of each partition?
[04:00] <fluffman> leigh: yep
[04:00] <leigh> ??
[04:01] <pyfon> marca311: AR2427 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)
[04:01] <fluffman> you're there.
[04:01] <noob> does anybody in here knows what is crash bang?.my brother just asked me.
[04:01] <openarena> i have a problem witrh open arena in natty, it says "cg_registrationitemvisuals out of range blah blah "
[04:01] <leigh> ok
[04:01] <edwintodd> marca311, see my paste? http://paste.ubuntu.com/609297/
[04:02] <jasonmchristos> i thought seahorse integrates file encryption into nautalis but i dont see any option to encrypt a text file
[04:02] <qin> noob: You mean shebang?
[04:02] <JoeR1> fluffman - do you have any recommendation about how to test the built in mic on my webcam?
[04:02] <Loshki> noob: I think he means crunchbang. It's a distro. Google 'ubuntu crunchbang"
[04:02] <fluffman> right click your sound icon applet and click preferences
[04:02] <marca311> edwintodd: i'm sorry, i have no idea how to solve your problem
[04:02] <fluffman> JoeR1: ^
[04:03] <noob> yeah yea crunchbang i mean
[04:03] <edwintodd> marca311, thanks.
[04:03] <rayy> ubusammyn150 so if that is the case should i allocate most of the partition for windows and then a small amount for ubuntu
[04:03] <noob> tnx
[04:03] <ouyes> there is something wrong with my screensaver, I am runing  Linux Nobody 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:50 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux, and once the screensaver was active, you can't go back to normal screen, no matter you type what, no response, I have to hold the power button until the lap shutdown, what is wrong with my thinkpad x201?
[04:03] <fluffman> JoeR1: look under the input tab and select the correct connector
[04:03] <JoeR1> fluffman, I do not get a preferences
[04:03] <openarena> i have a problem with openarena game in natty, it says "cg_registrationitemvisuals out of range blah blah " and crashes in multiplayer
[04:03] <marca311> pyfon: have you tried using ndiswrapper? it's bad, but it works
[04:04] <rayy> ubusammyn150 or create a third partition for data and then download the os's on separate partitions?
[04:04] <fluffman> JoeR1: look under System > Preferences > Sound then
[04:04] <JoeR1> fluffman - i retract that I found the preferences
[04:04] <fluffman> cool
[04:04] <ubusammyn150> rayy, using wubi is dual booting
[04:04] <pyfon> marca311: that is what i'm currently using, it works sometimes, but once I restart it rarelly works again
[04:04] <rayy> ubusammyn150 but its not partitions though
[04:04] <ubusammyn150> what would you be allocateing more space for?
[04:04] <openarena> m i invisible or cant i see ur reply?? :P
[04:04] <ubusammyn150> yes actually it is
[04:05] <marca311> pyfon: ah, sounds like a problem with my current wireless driver on my netbook, sorry, i have no idea
[04:05] <ubusammyn150> do you have gpart?
[04:05] <JoeR1> fluffman - i do not have the input tab though
[04:05] <rayy> ubusammyn150 im confused with the whole concept of partitions i think
[04:05] <ubusammyn150> it will list wubi's parts as ntfs because it was installed from windows
[04:05] <fluffman> JoeR1: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:05] <ubusammyn150> with my samsung it listed 4 parts on one drive.. 2 of those are win 7
[04:05] <marca311> openarena: that's because people here don't know how to deal with that
[04:05] <JoeR1> 11. something, whatever the newest is
[04:06] <kamran1> 11.04
[04:06] <rayy> ubusammyn150 my understanding is that you can only access files on the partition that the os is operating on
[04:06] <pyfon> marca311: I find it hard to accept ubuntu wifi still being any issue at that stage in the game
[04:06] <fluffman> JoeR1: weeeeeiiiiiirrrd. can't help ya then.
[04:06] <JoeR1> ifluffman I am acctually on Xubuntu
[04:06] <fluffman> ah, hmm
[04:07] <rayy> ubusammyn150 but thats not true? i want to put the os
[04:07] <marca311> pyfon: yeah, me too, but what should be native drivers for me have never worked
[04:07] <ubusammyn150> rayy, ubuntu will be able to access both file systems... win7 has software available that can see ubuntu as well
[04:07] <fluffman> JoeR1: actually, try running alsamixer from the terminal
[04:07] <jasonmchristos> i thought seahorse integrates file encryption into nautalis but i dont see any option to encrypt a text file
[04:07] <JoeR1> 11.04 can't be that different from previous versions can it?
[04:07] <JoeR1> very well one moment
[04:07] <peteforsyth> can anybody help with what I think is a very basic networking problem?
[04:08] <marca3111> peteforsyth: go for it
[04:08] <ubusammyn150> so yes, with some software, i don't know what... you can use ubuntu or windows and freely access files on either os partitions
[04:08] <fluffman> JoeR1: the workings aren't THAT different, but Xubuntu is *quite* different from Ubuntu
[04:08] <JoeR1> fluffman - alsmixer is running in the terminal
[04:08] <peteforsyth> thanks marca3111 ! I'd like to assign a static IP to my ubuntu box on my lan
[04:08] <peteforsyth> (use it as a file server, etc.)
[04:08] <ubusammyn150> wubi makes it's own partitions during the install
[04:08] <peteforsyth> I have made the settings, including the DNS server addresses from my cable modem's settings..
[04:08] <fluffman> JoeR1: see if you can find your mic listed there then. use M to mute or unmute channels
[04:09] <marca3111> peteforsyth: what ubuntu are you running?
[04:09] <peteforsyth> but I can't connect to anything named on the internet
[04:09] <rayy> uubusammyn150 so are programs located on the separate partition. so say in my case i create three partitions, one with windows (70gb), one with ubuntu (40gb), and a third for all data/ programs (390gb)  can i run the programs on the third partition on both os's?
[04:09] <peteforsyth> I am currently using xubuntu 11.04
[04:09] <JoeR1> fluffman - it is currently set to off and unmuting has no effect
[04:09] <hameerabbasi> Hello, everybody :)
[04:09] <peteforsyth> but I tried this also under vanilla ubuntu 11.04 before installing xubuntu, and had the same problem.
[04:10] <peteforsyth> marca3111: I can ping my router, but if I try, say, ping yahoo.com -- no response. (also no response on web browser)
[04:10] <ubusammyn150> windows and ubuntu, would be for all your data... xfs file system should be compatable with both os's
[04:10] <hameerabbasi> can someone point me to a complete list of apps included in the live CD?
[04:10] <marca3111> when setting the static ip settings on xubuntu, did you set the dns server to your router IP?
[04:11] <peteforsyth> ah -- no, I manually entered the DNS servers that the router has.
[04:11] <ubusammyn150> but i can't be sure about that, i don't have personal experieence with that.. but for example.. if you make a third ntfs in windows...only windows will see it
[04:11] <peteforsyth> I will try it like you say though
[04:11] <fluffman> JoeR1: use the up and down arrow keys to raise the volume
[04:11] <Cydd> has anyone met someone who both against gay marriage and not a complete moron? Just curious...
[04:11] <rudi_> arent there tools out there for linux to read and write ntfs
[04:11] <ubusammyn150> no, no i'm wrong ubuntu can see all partitions.. and you'll be able to mount it as another drive even
[04:11] <marca3111> peteforsyth: that is probably your problem (I hope)
[04:12] <JoeR1> fluffman - unsuscessful, however spacebar did move a "capture" indicator to the mic
[04:12] <qin> !ot | Cydd
[04:12] <kamran1> hameerabbasi150 wat do u intend to do with that list ?
[04:12] <jeaton> how do I go about changing the highlighted entry under grub2, so where if nothing is selected within so many seconds, it automatically selects?
[04:13] <hameerabbasi> I dunno. I intend to keep ubuntu installed and the livecd for recovery and partitioning purposes.
[04:13] <ubusammyn150> why would you want to make another partition if ubuntu and windows could be used?  it may help with performance tho
[04:13] <qin> rudi_: ntfs is supported
[04:13] <hameerabbasi> mainly partitioning
[04:14] <rudi_> qin, so in that case, if i wanted to make a third partition to hold media files I would not experience any issues on ubuntu or windows?
[04:14] <ubusammyn150> Note: if you try to install windows on the same drive as ubuntu..it will overwrite the boot loader..
[04:14] <JoeR1>  fluffman - any idea?
[04:14] <ubuntuguy> I'm trying to make a launcher for minecraft, can someone help me, it's in my home directory under .minecraft
[04:14] <hameerabbasi> I want to know if It has GParted, in particular
[04:14] <fluffman> JoeR1: sorry. i'm at a loss
[04:14] <Loshki> jeaton: edit GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub....
[04:14] <jeaton> thanks
[04:15] <Loshki> jeaton: edit GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub, then run update-grub to propagate the change...
[04:15] <JoeR1> fluffman - one moment I may have found something
[04:15] <kamran1> hameerabbasi150 can i pm u ?
[04:15] <hameerabbasi> go ahead
[04:16] <peteforsyth> marca3111: still can't ping :(
[04:16] <JoeR1> I need something that can tell me if it is receiving input from a mic
[04:16] <marca3111> ubuntuguy: put this in a .sh file: java -jar -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M ~/.minecraft/minecraft.jar
[04:16] <marca3111> peteforsyth: hmm
[04:16] <ubuntuguy> What's a .sh file, sorry newbie question
[04:16] <peteforsyth> would it help if I provide more details about my network?
[04:16] <fluffman> JoeR1: try audacity
[04:17] <marca3111> peteforsyth: sure
[04:17] <fluffman> JoeR1: or skype :P
[04:17] <JoeR1> fluffman - thanks lol
[04:17] <cak054> alias irssi="screen -wipe; screen -A -U -x -R -S irssi irssi"
[04:17] <lz> zhende
[04:17] <peteforsyth> marca3111: router is <IP_ADDRESS>, netmask should be <IP_ADDRESS>, the dhcp range is <IP_ADDRESS> and up, and I'm trying to assign it <IP_ADDRESS> (though it really doesn't matter as long as I can give it any static on the network)
[04:18] <rudi_> ubuntuguy: its a script that executes unix commands
[04:18] <fluffman> cak054: what's that do?
[04:18] <peteforsyth> when I log into the router, I see these for dns servers: <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:18] <marca3111> ubuntuguy: rightclick on a folder window and go to create document, and then empty file, name that file minecraftlauncher.sh and paste the previous text inside
[04:18] <fluffman> peteforsyth: manually set your dns servers to <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:18] <ubuntuguy> So I'm naming the minecraft.jar file minecraftlaucher.sh?
[04:18] <lz> 能写汉字吗
[04:19] <rudi_> no
[04:19] <lz> 用英文看不懂
[04:19] <fluffman> peteforsyth: to see if that helps...just maybe.
[04:19] <peteforsyth> fluffman: still not working
[04:20] <peteforsyth> wait, I'll try restart networking
[04:20] <huitailang> lz: #ubuntu-cn is place talk about chinese
[04:20] <ubuntuguy> Ok, I did it, let me create launcher now
[04:20] <peteforsyth> "restart: unknown instance"
[04:20] <peteforsyth> fluffman: ^^
[04:20] <fluffman> peteforsyth: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:20] <peteforsyth> ok
[04:20] <lz> 有会翻译的阿
[04:21] <fluffman> lz > !cn
[04:21] <peteforsyth> done, but ping yahoo.com still does nothing
[04:21] <fluffman> lz > !chinese
[04:21] <fluffman> dah!
[04:21] <lz> yes
[04:22] <ubuntuguy> Do I import the code with text editor?
[04:23] <marca3111> ubuntuguy: put this in the text file: java -jar -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M ~/.minecraft/minecraft.jar
[04:23] <ubuntuguy> Ok, so I create a empty document file thingy, and opened it with text editor after naming it what you told me to name it, and I put in that code, now what do I launch it with?
[04:24] <jwm123> More often than it should, my windows lose their decorations in Natty.  How can I restart the window manager?  I used to use the compiz fusion icon, but there is no place for that now.  Any advice?
[04:24] <marca3111> ubuntuguy: go into terminal (ctrl-alt-t)
[04:24] <rudi_> ubuntuguy: make sure that after renaming it with the sh extension, you right click and go to properties. then go to permissions and check allow execution
[04:24] <marca3111> ubuntuguy: that works too
[04:25] <Justice_form> hello
[04:25] <georgie> can anyone suggest some channels for generic operating system issues..
[04:25] <rayy> is optimus working on 11.04
[04:25] <ubuntuguy> hm, wierd, it's not launching minecraft
[04:25] <marca3111> georgie: what do you mean?
[04:25] <jasonmchristos> i thought seahorse integrates file encryption into nautalis but i dont see any option to encrypt a text file
[04:25] <jwm123> Any advice on how to restart the window manager and restore decorations?
[04:26] <georgie> i'm learning operating system concepts and i've some questions which is not any particular os specific
[04:26] <marca3111> jwm123: restart the window manager: sudo killall nautilus
[04:27] <jwm123> thanks marca3111.  I'll let you know how it goes
[04:27] <rob_p> ubuntuguy: Try running the shell script from the command line and see if it produces any errors.
[04:27] <marca3111> georgie: ah, idk about a general location
[04:27] <ubuntuguy> In a second
[04:27] <marca3111> bed time, night all!
[04:27] <JoeR1> fluffman - audacity registers the mic as "USB:camera USB:Audio (hw;1,0) mic 0"
[04:27] <ubuntuguy> trying something new quickly
[04:28] <jwm123> no effect marca3111
[04:28] <electro_> how do I add the chrome icon to the dock in natty?
[04:29] <jwm123> electro: run chrome then right click on its icon and pin it
[04:29] <CrustyBarnacle> electro_: With chrome running, right-click on the icon and select "Keep in Launcher"
[04:30] <fluffman> JoeR1: can you record with the mic in audacity?
[04:31] <jwm123> hill
[04:31] <peteforsyth> fluffman: thanks for trying, I appreciate it! I'm really befuddled by this..it seems like a very basic change. Ah well, I guess I'll try another day!
[04:31] <JoeR1> fluffman yes and I found the control to modify mic volume in the mixer controls
[04:31] <magn3ts> Drag/dropping Chrome to the unity dock doesn't usually work for me. I think it has to do with google-chrome being a multilayered wrapper script
[04:31] <JoeR1> I may be able to use this with skype or gynache soon
[04:32] <fluffman> JoeR1: good. hope so.
[04:32] <CrustyBarnacle> magn3ts: Is that your question?
[04:33] <fluffman> magn3ts: can't you just open it and then lock it to the panel?
[04:33] <magn3ts> fluffman, yes, and that works fine.
[04:33] <magn3ts> CrustyBarnacle, no, someone elses, sorry just chiming in with an anecdote that might be why the other person was having difficulty
[04:33] <methedman> anybody know how to underclock for powersave
[04:34] <magn3ts> methedman, if you're on a modern processor it is for you.
[04:34] <methedman> magn3ts: what?
[04:34] <bencc> how can I run cat and push the result as root? "sudo cat /dev/null > /var/log/nginx/error.log" gives me permission denied
[04:34] <magn3ts> methedman, it's likely that it's already happening, for you.
[04:35] <methedman> magn3ts: the cpu's lowest speed is 33% of max or 800MHz
[04:35] <methedman> i want to set my cpu at something like 400MhZ magn3ts
[04:35] <magn3ts> Oh, I'm not sure if that's something you do at the ubuntu level.
[04:36] <methedman> what do you mean "ubuntu level" magn3ts
[04:36] <CrustyBarnacle> !help
[04:36] <magn3ts> methedman, I think for underclocking like that you have to deal with bios.
[04:36] <dageriv> I was using wine to run spotify on Ubuntu, and it worked fine. But then today, this "new terms of use" box, popups everytime I start spotify, and it crashes. What todo?
[04:36] <magn3ts> bencc, the easy way is just to elevate to root and then run that command. What are you expecting that command to do?
[04:37] <bencc> magn3ts:  this works: sudo bash -c 'cat file > file2'
[04:37] <magn3ts> bencc, good solution!
[04:38] <JoeR1> fluffman - I can smell success thanks for the help i will keep you informed
[04:38] <fluffman> JoeR1: yw. :D
[04:38] <magn3ts> bencc, I think that's also something you can use `tee` for.
[04:39] <celthunder> methedman: laptop-mode-tools?
[04:39] <celthunder> methedman: not sure if it lets you underclock that far...
[04:39] <papna_> I have a program that wants Ctrl-Alt-T to be its own shortcut.
[04:39] <peteforsyth> fluffman: I maybe narrowed my networking conundrum down a bit. I tried the same settings on my Mac, and was also unsuccessful. So, it seems either my router is doing something strange (caching MAC addresses??) that prevents the host from getting through after changing to a static IP....or I'm just very confused about the network and doing something stupid on both machines.
[04:39] <ubuntu_> How do I get a brightness applet in ubuntu 11.04
[04:39] <papna_> Is there a way to have Ctrl-Alt-T launch a terminal normally, but just be used by this program when it's the active window?
[04:39] <ubuntu_> lmao I love how they took out the "Add to panel..." option :s
[04:40] <ubuntu_> now my laptop screen  is stuck at full brightness and can't add applet to lower it
[04:40] <magn3ts> ubuntu_, they switched from gnome-panel to their own thing that allows the use of indicator applets rather than gnome-panel applets.
[04:40] <CHris_H> Does ubuntu have anything similar to gmail plasmoid?
[04:40] <magn3ts> ubuntu_, sadly I'm not sure what the best way to resolve it is.
[04:40] <rob_p> bencc: The *best* way would be to run the entire command in a subshell with elevated privs using sudo. ex:  sudo sh -c "command_to_run"
[04:40] <ubuntu_> magn3ts: their own thing doesn't let you add any different applets
[04:41] <CHris_H> which can accept mutiple accounts, shows the count in each account and also displays the subject of each mail?
[04:41] <magn3ts> ubuntu_, I know.  But I understand why you need it. I'll look for you.
[04:41] <magn3ts> CHris_H, um, I'm not sure.
[04:41] <CHris_H> magn3ts: I wanted to try unity, but I don't want to miss this app
[04:41] <ubuntu_> CHris_H: don't bother, not customizable at all :s
[04:41] <ubuntu_> probably going to install xfce
[04:41] <ubuntu_> :<
[04:41] <magn3ts> CHris_H, you don't have to stop using it (most likely)
[04:42] <magn3ts> ubuntu_, ... you can just revert to classic GNOME... there's no need to run to a new DE.
[04:42] <magn3ts> Unless you want to of course.
[04:42] <ubuntu_> magn3ts: I kind of want to because they're removing classic GNOME in 11.10 lol
[04:42] <magn3ts> ubuntu_, it's not ideal since you have to go to CLI to change it, but short term: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10795424
[04:42] <CHris_H> magn3ts: I am using Kubuntu, and I do love the unity, atleast its something new to the eyes
[04:42] <magn3ts> ubuntu_, they're just upgrading to GNOME 3. I'm not sure if GNOME 2 will be available from repos though...
[04:43] <ubuntu_> I hope they add more customization features :)
[04:43] <ubuntu_> <3 ubuntu, been using it since dapper
[04:43] <ubuntu_> and thanks for the command magn3ts :D
[04:43] <magn3ts> CHris_H, I thought I wouldn't like Unity- I was quite happy with cardapio and Docky... I miss Cardapio (I think the application lens is just the saddest thing I've ever seen since windows ME), but I really like Unity otherwise.
[04:43] <apn> It will be still possible to run gnome 3 without the shell, so nobody should notice any major differences unless they choose to.
[04:44] <magn3ts> apn, I didn't know that the legacy gnome-panel setup still existed in gnome3. I'll have to keep that in mind.
[04:44] <magn3ts> I guess that makes sense though, they're not going to abandon non-compositable computer.s
[04:44] <CHris_H> Do you guys use any kind of gmail notifier applet, applcation, screenlet or whatever you call it in Ubuntu?
[04:45] <ubuntu_> magn3ts: bash: /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness: Permission denied
[04:45] <kamran1> widget ?
[04:45] <rudi_> does conky count?
[04:45] <fluffman> CHris_H: nope. I only ever have two programs running: terminal and chrome
[04:45] <roasted> has anybody else had bad experiences with luckybackup? I can't get this darn program to transfer anything EXCEPT empty directories.
[04:45] <magn3ts> ubuntu_, sudo?
[04:45] <ubuntu_> magn3ts: sudo still returned permission denied :s
[04:45] <CHris_H> kamran1: yes, any gmail widget for Ubuntu unity/
[04:46] <magn3ts> ubuntu_, do `sudo -s` first, then type the command, then `exit` at the end to get out of root.
[04:46] <ubuntu_> magn3ts: that worked :)
[04:47] <gigawatt34> booting into ubuntu forces me into the Memtest for some reason
[04:47] <magn3ts> ubuntu_, great :)
[04:47] <gigawatt34> i can't get the bootloader to change options or anything
[04:47] <fluffman> gigawatt34: hold shift while booting
[04:47] <ubuntu_> magn3ts: pretty insecure to have to open a root session to change screen brightness though lol...
[04:47] <CrustyBarnacle> !grub
[04:48] <apn> gigawatt34: grub config file got messed up? Can you check your menu.lst file?
[04:48] <gigawatt34> no let me try to boot holding shift jas
[04:48] <CHris_H> Never mind, found several gmail notifiers. Thanks all
[04:48] <magn3ts> ubuntu_, eh, if you're only executing one command, it doesn't matter. you could also do `sudo bash -c "<command>"` but they're effectively the same thing.
[04:48] <gigawatt34> even holding shift it forced into memtest
[04:49] <JoeR1> fluffman - well skype still doesn't make use of the camera or mic but I will just have to look around online to see if I am missing some packages, A likely scenario since this is a recent install of linux
[04:49] <gigawatt34> wait got it
[04:49] <gigawatt34> but now i get a blank purple screen
[04:50] <fluffman> JoeR1: thanks for keeping me updated. good luck with that. sorry we couldn't get it perfect, but at least we know that the mic/cam work otherwise
[04:50] <JoeR1> indeed, thanks for all the help
[04:50] <electro_> asdadasdasd
[04:51] <excelsior> sup
[04:51] <fluffman> gigawatt34: sounds like your grub got hosed then. see what CrustyBarnacle posted
[04:51] <gigawatt34> where is the menu/lst file
[04:51] <ubuntu_> magn3ts: you must be joking, if I was to install ubuntu/unity on laptops for people I oversee I could never add them to the sudoers file just to change screen brightness
[04:51] <fluffman> !grub
[04:51] <magn3ts> ubuntu_, oh, sorry, I misunderstood what you meant.
[04:51] <gigawatt34> i got into it, the newest kernal is broken for me i have to boot into the old one
[04:51] <magn3ts> ubuntu_, :) of course that's not practical.
[04:52] <magn3ts> ubuntu_, not sure what else to tell you for now though. try google, port the brightness applet to an app indicaotr?
[04:52] <CrustyBarnacle> gigawatt34: Grub2 boot options (what is displayed to the user at boot) are configured in /etc/default/grub
[04:52] <moses> i cant get my second monitor to work
[04:52] <excelsior> I took notes in tomboy, and now I want to send them to someone who probably uses Windows via email. I'm trying to paste them into Yahoo mail, but it won't paste. What's wrong?
[04:53] <moses> also im stuck at 50 hz
[04:53] <ubuntu_> magn3ts: yeah, I was just trying it out live :3 Natty is quite beta, going to wait for Oneiric and see if customization is possible in it...thanks for the help :)
[04:53] <cjohnston> I'm having trouble connecting to an Ad-hoc network.. I've rebooted a couple times, the connection works in other OS's.. what else can I try to make it work
[04:53] <moses> i think the driver for Nvidia is terrible for ubuntu haha
[04:54] <CrustyBarnacle> excelsior: Working fine here from Tomboy to Gmail.
[04:54] <manlymatt83> What's the best way to run Windows XP on my Ubuntu machine?  I have a program I want to use that only runs under Windows.  Virtual Box?
[04:55] <CrustyBarnacle> excelsior: How are you cutting/pasting?
[04:55] <Loshki> manlymatt83: if it won't run under wine, then yes, virtualbox...
[04:55] <CrustyBarnacle> excelsior: Both ctrl-c and right-click Cut working for me.
[04:55] <manlymatt83> Loshki: This is the Blackberry OS Installer, I doubt it will run under Wine
[04:56] <Loshki> manlymatt83: I doubt it too :-)
[04:56] <manlymatt83> Loshki: I haven't done anything with VirtualBox.  Just apt-get install VirtualBox, then use it to create the VM and pop the CD in my CDROM?
[04:57] <manlymatt83> It's too bad I can't install Windows 7 in Virtual Box.  My Laptop came with it (I have an unused product key because I formatted and immediately installed Ubuntu)
[04:57] <Loshki> manlymatt83: I use vmware myself, but basically that's the idea....
[04:58] <manlymatt83> Loshki: VMWare isn't free, right?
[04:59] <manlymatt83> While VirtualBox seems to be
[04:59] <Loshki> manlymatt83: I think that's correct, vmware is a commercial product, virtualbox is free.
[04:59] <hiexpo> manlymatt83, no it is free for home use  just have to reg but it is free
[05:01] <moses> does anyone use Nvidia cards here?
[05:01] <moses> ouch
[05:01] <apn> moises: yes
[05:02] <apn> moses: yes
[05:02] <moses> do you have a good refresh rate and dual monitor support?
[05:02] <apn> moses: yes, no complains whatsoever.
[05:02] <moses> what driver?
[05:02] <apn> moses: proprietary from nvidia website.
[05:03] <moses> how do you install it?
[05:03] <apn> moses: kill X server, apt-get kernel sources and headers, and run the script.
[05:04] <apn> moses: but I guess it is not recommended in Ubuntu as there are click-friendly solutions.
[05:04] <eliezer> join ##0day
[05:04] <eliezer> join ##0day
[05:04] <masterxc> now about not?
[05:04] <masterxc> *how, even
[05:04] <moses> apn, why doesnt the software updating suete have the nvidia drivers?
[05:05] <apn> moses: it does. I just prefer to do things myself.
[05:05] <moses> but the one i did install sucks
[05:05] <moses> it doesnt offer dual monitor support
[05:06] <uofm49426> ok i did a reinstall off everything made a small fat32 partion to save some music and movies etc and so i could retrieve them from
[05:06] <apn> moses: are you using nvidia-settings utility?
[05:06] <uofm49426> windows
[05:06] <moses> apn not that i know of
[05:07] <apn> moses: use it instead of gnome or kde monitor configuration tools.
[05:07] <uofm49426> installing ubuntu i have set the fat32 partion as /fat32/tmp in
[05:07] <moses> apn good call
[05:07] <moses> it works perfectly
[05:08] <moses> although i dont know how to restard the x server
[05:08] <uofm49426> i have sense remove the drive and expanded ntfs
[05:08] <apn> moses: log out and in, it should do it.
[05:08] <uofm49426> everytime i reboot it trying to still mount /fat32/tmp
[05:09] <uofm49426> but i have erased them
[05:09] <apn> uofm49426: remove this line from /etc/fstab
[05:09] <uofm49426> ho
[05:09] <Zelozelos> i have a question about ubuntu1, i have my desktop sync'd and i was wondering if i delete files on my dt are they eventually deleted on ubuntu1 or do i need to remember to go there sometimes and delete them manually?
[05:09] <rudi_> does anyone know why gparted would say I have 4 primary partitions when I really have 3 and 1 extended?
[05:09] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[05:10] <apn> uofm49426: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[05:10] <Zelozelos> rudi_, does it have something 2 do with ext4 perhaps?
[05:10] <theron> Just did a base server install, update & upgrade
[05:10] <theron> looking for ext2resize
[05:10] <apn> rudi_: extended partition is a partition as well
[05:11] <rudi_> Zelozelos: my ubuntu installation is on ext4 yes
[05:11] <carnage1> reiser
[05:11] <rudi_> apn: i'm aware, but extended partitions are not primary
[05:11] <moses> oh yeah
[05:11] <moses> works perfectly
[05:11] <moses> now
[05:11] <Zelozelos> then it is also a primary partition
[05:11] <moses> what about my soundcard?
[05:11] <manlymatt83> hiexpo, Loshki: Looks like Xen is a good option, too, no?
[05:11] <moses> any advice for getting that to work?
[05:12] <apn> rudi_: actually, it is seen like one from fs point of view.
[05:12] <carnage1> Xen alwys crashes my kernel
[05:12] <uofm49426> in fstap # the beginning and end of the line
[05:12] <Zelozelos> does anyone know if grub has an official symbol?
[05:12] <apn> carnage1: compile the module yourself. It is not a standard behavior.
[05:12] <rudi_> gparted says I have a boot partition, windows ntfs, ext4 ubuntu, and a swap partition(extended)
[05:13] <coz_> Zelozelos,  dont know if this is oficial   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Grub_logo.png
[05:13] <rudi_> and now im left with 160gb unallocated space that it won't let me partition
[05:13] <Zelozelos> rudi_, thats correct 4 primary
[05:14] <rudi_> Zelo: how can I turn that extra space into something my windows and ubuntu can use
[05:14] <rudi_> i was originally planning on creating a last partition to store music, videos, etc. but its obviously not turning out as I expected
[05:14] <Zelozelos> rudi_, u talking about the swap, i wouldnt mess with it, its calculated by your hd size and amount of memory, unless its hugh
[05:15] <apn> moses: what is your problem with the sound card?
[05:15] <uofm49426> next nvidia driver and a purple slash screen fix
[05:15] <moses> i need to install driver
[05:15] <moses> h/o
[05:15] <moses> also
[05:15] <rudi_> zelo: no, I'm talking about the 160gb I purposely left open to create the fifth partition
[05:15] <moses> i cant drag programs onto my activated second monitor ?
[05:15] <coz_> moses,  is this nvidia , ati . or intel video?
[05:15] <moses> nvidia
[05:16] <apn> moses: sure you can. What environment are you using?
[05:16] <coz_> moses,  is the driver installed
[05:16] <moses> it just locks me out from the right monitor
[05:16] <Zelozelos> rudi_, shouldnt it be listed somehow like unused space or something? never done it that way i usually split partitions
[05:16] <quiescens> rudi_: you can most likely use gparted or something to move things around if you want
[05:16] <moses> what do you mean environment?
[05:16] <CrustyBarnacle> Zelozelos: http://www.inf.sgsp.edu.pl/pub/MALUNKI/LOGO/grub2.png
[05:16] <moses> i have seperate x screen checked
[05:16] <coz_> moses,  thats why you cant drag to the other monitor separate xscreens
[05:17] <moses> what should i select then?
[05:17] <coz_> moses,  open nvidia settings from terminal    sudo nvidia-settings
[05:17] <moses> i can move my mouse over though?
[05:17] <moses> its open
[05:17] <Zelozelos> ty coz_ and CrustyBarnacle  those dont look very offical though
[05:17] <uofm49426> anyone ever try mint
[05:17] <quiescens> rudi_: just be aware that changing existing partitions carries a risk of damage to data if your computer crashes or turns off during the operation
[05:17] <coz_> moses,  click on  "X Server Display Configuration"
[05:17] <CrustyBarnacle> Zelozelos: Yeah, don't see any official logo available.
[05:17] <moses> ok i did
[05:17] <moses> theres twinview
[05:18] <apn> CrustyBarnacle: http://www.inf.sgsp.edu.pl/pub/MALUNKI/LOGO/grub.png according to grub website
[05:18] <coz_> moses,  do you see both monitors in the graphics there?
[05:18] <Zelozelos> when you think of grub, what comes 2 mind (besides the insect)?
[05:18] <andantino> is there a general linux chat on here
[05:18] <moses> i do indeed
[05:18] <coz_> moses,  click on the secondary monitor to set the resolution you want  then click  Configure  then choose Twinview
[05:18] <CrustyBarnacle> Zelozelos: Both of the logos are linked from http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/
[05:18] <moses> ok
[05:18] <moses> so twinview is the one i want
[05:18] <andantino> #linux
[05:18] <arand> andantino: Try #linux or #ubuntu-ooftopic I guess
[05:18] <andantino> woop
[05:19] <coz_> moses,  then click  Save to X configuration and close out,, then either reboot or restart x to see if it holds in twinview
[05:19] <andantino> woops forgot join
[05:19] <andantino> thanks arand
[05:19] <andantino> why is it that when i join certain channel and type a message it says "cannot send to channel"
[05:20] <bolt12> andantino, could be that channel requires to to authenticate
[05:20] <coz_> andantino,  probably because your nick is not registered
[05:20] <rudi_> can someone suggest me a partition scheme that would allow me to have the boot partition, windows, ubuntu, and a "media" partition that they can both read and write from. I dont understand this stuff as well as I thought I did.
[05:20] <bolt12> using /msg nickserve
[05:20] <syrinx_> andantino: register your nick with nickserv
[05:20] <magn3ts> rudi_, your media probably should be ntfs/fat. I'd recommend NTFS.
[05:20] <bullgard4> andantino: That is a security measure against evil people who try to disturb normal IRC operation.
[05:20] <Loshki> join ##linux
[05:20] <andantino> ahhh thanks syrinx
[05:20] <magn3ts> rudi_, and then you just make the partitions how ever you like them! Don't forget about a swap partition if you want one.
[05:21] <andantino> temples of syrinx?
[05:21] <syrinx_> thats right
[05:21] <Loshki> oops, pardon my fat fingers
[05:21] <bolt12> missing system resource panel on ubuntu 11.04
[05:21] <mr_strigiformes> For anyone who's interested I had some interesting experiences with the new Ubuntu. I attempted to install it on my IBM yesterday. The installer crashed, it had corrupted my hard drive, memory, and possibly processor so badly that I couldn't even boot the live disk.
[05:21] <coz_> Loshki,   do you mean    /join ##linux
[05:21] <bolt12> any alternative in unity cause i am not able to add panels
[05:21] <moses> it broke
[05:21] <andantino> i was listening to that song earlier on my mp3
[05:21] <moses> didnt work
[05:21] <mr_strigiformes> I couldn't boot Back Track in silent mode (no disk)
[05:21] <bencc> "ulimit -n" gives me "1024" but "lsof | grep user | wc -l" gives me "5336" how is it possible?
[05:21] <coz_> bolt12,  you can log off then log onto classic
[05:21] <uofm49426> they have a gui start up editor it lets you customize boot from grubs resolution to fixing splash resolution
[05:21] <Loshki> coz_: yes, got there in the end, thanks...
[05:22] <bolt12> coz_, lol
[05:22] <rudi_> magn3ts: that was my plan but now I'm stuck because I accidentally left the 160gb allocated, thinking I could later format it but it turns out that not I have 4 primaries
[05:22] <mr_strigiformes> I couldn't boot a windows install disk
[05:22] <Zelozelos> how about something like this  http://www.pasteall.org/pic/12470  its obvious what its for
[05:22] <bolt12> coz_, i mean anything which is in unity
[05:22] <coz_> bolt12,   not sure exactly what you want..
[05:22] <mr_strigiformes> I was about to give up completely on the computer (thought it had really broke something)
[05:22] <bolt12> coz_, well I am searching for some way to add panel or widget
[05:22] <bolt12> to display system resource of my work station
[05:22] <CrustyBarnacle> mr_strigiformes: Did you try power off, disconnect from outlet and hold down power button to drain all power from the motherboard?
[05:23] <bolt12> and easy access resource graphs
[05:23] <bolt12> like the panel available in classic
[05:23] <carnage1> have you tried windows?
[05:23] <mr_strigiformes> Crusty, oh yes.
[05:23] <mr_strigiformes> Tried everything
[05:23] <Zelozelos> bolt12, for 11.04? me 2 couldnt come up w anything
[05:23] <mr_strigiformes> Tried windows
[05:23] <coz_> bolt12,  ah mm,, well the upper panel is no longer an actual gnome panel in Unity so no on that,, however,, you can add a dock like cairo dock,,,
[05:23] <Diana> greetings
[05:23] <moses> coz_, have you ever run into this before?
[05:23] <mr_strigiformes> I fixed it though
[05:23] <mr_strigiformes> And here's how
[05:23] <FloodBot1> mr_strigiformes: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:23] <Loshki> mr_strigiformes: corrupted bios?
[05:23] <Diana> anyone had any success creating a live ubuntu usb stick that works with a Mac laptop?
[05:24] <Diana> I manage to create the image in the usb disk but can't find a way for the Mac to detect the stick upon boot
[05:24] <uvacavwhat> anyone else notice their computer running much cooler? i guess because of an update?.. im kinda freaked out that its lying to me cause im really running 10-15 degrees cooler the past week or so
[05:24] <mr_strigiformes> I popped in a seriously old Slack distro.
[05:24] <bolt12> does the docks interfere with the new side panel?
[05:24] <bolt12> I have not tried any docks just curious will it work with the side panel enabled
[05:24] <Zelozelos> bolt12, no cairo dock works perfectly anyhow dk about the others
[05:24] <coz_> bolt12,  no they dont interfere unless you place them on top of the Launcher
[05:24] <mr_strigiformes> It booted, I ran fdisk, The hard drive was so corrupted it took a little work but I got a new part table and ran memcheck on the memory fixing the errors.
[05:24] <rudi_> ZeloZelos: Will both ubuntu and windows be able to access an extended partition?
[05:25] <uofm49426> StartUp-manager is the name of the program is this in ubuntu repository
[05:25] <bolt12> awesome, ty Zelozelos and coz_
[05:25] <Diana> can anyone help please?
[05:25] <apn> rudi_: yes, as long as both of them can read file system on it.
[05:25] <coz_> rudi_,  if the extended partition is not ext4 or 3  windows will be able to yes
[05:25] <mr_strigiformes> So, if anyone else comes along with a computer that really wont boot anything, pass the word. Download Slack from like 2002. It seems to work.
[05:25] <carnage1> remember how mandrake had textured panel colors?
[05:25] <moses> yeah it wont let me put anything on this right monitor, i wonder why????
[05:25] <Zelozelos> rudi_, windows dosent use swap to compress memory, it has a diff way and the space is on the same partition
[05:26] <bolt12> Diana, not sure if anyone will know about Mac issues here
[05:26] <apn> moses, this is not nvidia related, but X or DE
[05:26] <vaxinated> Diana: Does your MAC know how to boot a USB stick?
[05:26] <coz_> rudi_,  I havent found a good utility for windows that reads ext file systems  so best best is the extended partion in fat  or ntfs
[05:26] <Diana> I press alto upon start to reach the boot menu
[05:26] <Diana> but only shows my HD
[05:26] <Diana> not the usb stick as it says on ubuntu website
[05:27] <bolt12> Diana, hmm try bois , see if usb is detected there
[05:27] <moses> apn so ill google then?
[05:27] <vaxinated> Diana: Try powering off your MAC, stick in the USB stick, then cold power on the MAC and go to the boot menu.
[05:27] <carnage1> mac bios hahahahha
[05:27] <bolt12> i donno about mac
[05:27] <rudi_> apn, coz, Zelozelos: thanks guys, I'm resizing the extended partition so that it takes up the rest of the disk. Then I can create 4gb swap and have the rest be FAT
[05:27] <bolt12> ^ ^
[05:27] <bolt12> thought it was the same intel stuff
[05:27] <bolt12> with bois
[05:28] <apn> moses: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaMultiMonitors
[05:28] <Zelozelos> rudi_, good luck hope it all works out ok
[05:28] <Diana> didn't work :(
[05:28] <bolt12> searching for some good free themes for my new unity setup
[05:28] <Diana> only HD shows on the boot loader
[05:28] <vaxinated> Diana: You still cannot see the USB stick in the boot menu?
[05:28] <bolt12> anyone has a link for some cool themes
[05:29] <carnage1> arenis
[05:29] <magn3ts> Is Empathy a joke? I can't have it auto open a window?
[05:29] <jason_562> go to the places area
[05:29] <jason_562> and i think you can find it there
[05:29] <vaxinated> Diana, is this an Intel MAC or Power MAC?
[05:29] <Zelozelos> bolt12, gnome-looks.org i think is the best site
[05:29] <Diana> Intel
[05:29] <Diana> it's a Macbook Air
[05:29] <Diana> latest gen
[05:29] <bolt12> cool, ty Zelozelos
[05:29] <jason_562> ok i think intel mac can't support ubuntu
[05:29] <vaxinated> Diana, you may want to check the BIOS to see if USB boot is enabled.
[05:29] <bolt12> O.O
[05:29] <bolt12> jason_562, for real?
[05:29] <Diana> how can I do that on a Mac?
[05:29] <carnage1> most people stopped useing ppc mac
[05:30] <jason_562> yup
[05:30] <bolt12> thought it was the other way
[05:30] <jason_562> the current mac can only support xp
[05:30] <spacebug-> darn, I cant remeber the name of the program I'm looking for :/
[05:30] <vaxinated> Diana, is there any way to get to the BIOS, e.g. Press ESC or F10 or some other key on boot up?
[05:30] <carnage1> software update is the only thing that may help Diana
[05:30] <Diana> no bios access, do macs even have a bios?
[05:31] <carnage1> no
[05:31] <bolt12> i guess then you should try ubuntu on virtualbox
[05:31] <jason_562> maybe you might need to consult the IT
[05:31] <magn3ts> !mac
[05:31] <vaxinated> Diana, so if you wanted to change the boot order (e.g. HD, THEN CDROM), how would you do it?
[05:31] <bolt12> thats the easy alternative
[05:31] <moses> apn, it is totally my windows manager i dont think it understands i have 2 screens
[05:32] <carnage1> you press c at boot
[05:32] <bolt12> Diana why don;t you burn ubuntu on disk and try booting from disk
[05:32] <Diana> damn, I wanted an option for usb live ubuntu :(
[05:32] <uofm49426> hey it is in repo
[05:32] <bolt12> does Air have a dvd rom O.o
[05:32] <carnage1> hahahahahahahahahah
[05:32] <magn3ts> Macs can boot off USB...
[05:32] <Diana> bolt12: Airs have no cd/dvd drive
[05:32] <bolt12> damn
[05:32] <bolt12> what kind of laptop is that
[05:32] <bolt12> O.o
[05:32] <carnage1> you people are funny
[05:32] <magn3ts> I repeat. Macs can boot off of USB.
[05:32] <bolt12> << not a MAC user
[05:33] <vaxinated> Diana, from my experience with intel (PC) boxes, the BIOS allows certain controls like enable/disable USB boot, change boot order, etc.  I would hope the same is available for an Intel MAC.
[05:33] <apn> moses: after setting up 2 screens in nvidia-settings in twinview, try using gnome or kde monitor configuration tool to set it up again.
[05:33] <rww> bolt12: Mac. MAC is something different.
[05:33] <jason_562> yup
[05:33] <moses> ok
[05:33] <Diana> magn3ts: how?
[05:33] <magn3ts> I don't remember
[05:33] <magn3ts> google?
[05:33] <carnage1> on macs you have to install a firmware just to get a hardware cmd line
[05:33] <moses> apn it doesnt even pick it up :(
[05:33] <magn3ts> very first google result: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1948
[05:33] <apn> That's ok
[05:33] <rww> vaxinated: Last I checked, Apple hardware uses Intel processors
[05:34] <bolt12> the new Mac is built on unix kernal right?
[05:34] <rww> and are PCs
[05:34] <jason_562> is there LX Terminal on your mac or command prompt if you use XP?
[05:34] <hoey> cool
[05:34] <Diana> tried that already
[05:34] <bolt12> so technically it should run Mac
[05:34]  * rww shrugs, wanders back out
[05:34] <bolt12> i mean run on Mac
[05:34] <Diana> it works with  OS X usb sticks, but not with ubuntu
[05:34] <carnage1> mac terminal in osx is for apps
[05:34] <magn3ts> Diana, idk, works for me.
[05:34] <Diana> you boot from the usb stick with ubuntu?
[05:35] <jason_562> the USB stick should work with any interface
[05:35] <bolt12> just curious why would anyone spend money on a Mac Air to put ubuntu on it
[05:35] <bolt12> O.o
[05:35] <carnage1> software update is the only thing that might help Diana
[05:35] <apn> Diana: have you tried to set refit on your thumbstick?
[05:35] <Diana> maybe it's a Macbook Air issue then...
[05:35] <jason_562>  oidrg'e fgkrfh
[05:35] <jason_562> [ r
[05:35] <jason_562> gfk eklgerogip
[05:35] <Diana> didn't try refit
[05:35] <jason_562> bj
[05:35] <jason_562> hyj
[05:35] <jason_562> frhju
[05:35] <FloodBot1> jason_562: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:35] <vaxinated> Diana, do you see the option to boot USB device in the BOOT menu?
[05:35] <jason_562> b bm
[05:35] <jason_562> nh njm
[05:36] <Diana> no such option vaxinated, in macs it's different
[05:36] <bullgard4> Trying to install phpmyadmin using Synaptic, a window "Debconf on T43" appears: "Configuring phpmyadmin. Webserver to reconfigure automatically. Please choose the web server that should be automatically configured to run phpMyAdmin: apache, lighttpd." What button do I need to assert? I do not intend to use apache.
[05:36] <apn> Diana, mac boots completely different, so try it.
[05:36] <magn3ts> Diana, yes, I can choose to boot from USB and it works.
[05:36] <apn> vaxinated: mac doesn't have bios
[05:36] <vaxinated> Diana, so how could you boot a MAC stick?
[05:36] <Diana> it has a boot loader vaxinated
[05:36] <carnage1> macs also have a restriction to boot other oses so if you press c you may crash and get a black screen Diana
[05:36] <jason_562> insert the stick into he prot
[05:36] <sexcopter> hi, i fairly recently installed ubuntu 11.04 on a laptop serving kinda like a htpc, and just noticed in the /home folder there's /home/netlogon and /home/pdf-documents, which I know I didn't explicitly create myself. Is something up? Or did some safe and normal process create it? I have a hunch it could be related to samba?
[05:36] <jason_562> hiks hiks
[05:36] <ackt1c> neat
[05:36] <ackt1c> stick it
[05:37] <magn3ts> carnage1, what>
[05:37] <vaxinated> Diana, the boot loader has an option to pick the USB to boot from?
[05:37] <Diana> it only shows my ssd hd on the bootloader
[05:37] <Diana> it should
[05:37] <carnage1> theres a restriction against macs using other oses
[05:38] <Diana> carnage1: on ubuntu website says it should work
[05:38] <jason_562> well except XP
[05:38] <apn> Diana: you have to replace EFI with rEFIt on you mac side
[05:38] <carnage1> do they give you a terminal cmd Diana
[05:38] <bullgard4> sexcopter: Please use Standard English. This will increase chances for a satisfactory answer.
[05:38] <rww> jason_562: FloodBot1 is not sentient.
[05:38] <Jordan_U> Diana: Creating a LiveUSB for mac is difficult. If you want to use their BIOS implementation you can't boot from USB, if you want to use EFI there is a good chance the graphics drivers will fail.
[05:38] <Diana> damn
[05:38] <carnage1> oh virtualbox works with mac