[00:08] <mzanetti> daker: it's working! thanks again :)
[00:15] <daker> \o/
[07:38] <dholbach> good morning
[07:44] <rpadovani> dholbach, good morning :D I'll have a talk about Ubuntu Touch at the end of November, and I want to use the presentation you shared on GDrive - translating it, of course. Do you have any plan to update it in next days, or I can start to translate in on a my copy? BTW, thanks for it :D
[07:45] <dholbach> rpadovani, feel free to update it / translate it
[07:45] <dholbach> I can give you write access to it
[07:46] <rpadovani> dholbach, I think the best way for translate it that you do a copy with -it or something similar, and give me access, so I can translate it and could be useful to others too
[07:47] <dholbach> I think you can make a copy yourself, no?
[07:47] <rpadovani> of course
[07:48] <JoeyChan> hello, can anyone help with this error ?    SSH Protocol error: Server and client capabilities don't match
[07:48] <JoeyChan> I am trying to run project on my phone
[07:56] <zbenjamin> JoeyChan: yes, you are using vivid images right?
[07:57] <JoeyChan> zbenjamin:  yep
[07:57] <zbenjamin> JoeyChan: the problem is QtCreator does not support the new SSH server on the vivid images
[07:57] <JoeyChan> oh no ..
[07:57] <zbenjamin> JoeyChan: there is a fix for it but we need to backport that from the upstream master branch
[07:57] <zbenjamin> JoeyChan: but afaik you can configure the ssh server on the image to support the ciphers QtC can speak
[07:58] <zbenjamin> bzoltan:  ^^^^^
[07:58] <JoeyChan> zbenjamin:  is it possible to downgrade the ssh server in vivid image ?
[07:58] <zbenjamin> JoeyChan: basically you need to enable the aes128-cbc algorithm
[07:58] <JoeyChan> zbenjamin:  pls  :)
[07:59] <bzoltan> JoeyChan: I would not downgrade the ssh
[08:00] <bzoltan> JoeyChan:  to work around the problem all you need is add a line Ciphers = aes128-cb to the sshd_config on th edevice
[08:00] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: -cbc no?
[08:02] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  yeps
[08:04] <bzoltan> JoeyChan: zbenjamin: Ciphers  aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour128, arcfour256,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,aes128-ctr, aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr
[08:04] <JoeyChan> bzoltan: wow
[08:05] <bzoltan> JoeyChan:  that is pretty much an overkill, but sure fix ... NOTE!!! It will do enable all legacy algorithms what were just recently disabled by the upstream because they are considered unsafe.
[08:06] <bzoltan> JoeyChan:  so it is not a permanent fix. the real fix comes out as soon as we can backport the corrected QtCreator to our SDK
[08:06] <JoeyChan> bzoltan:  I c
[08:07] <JoeyChan> bzoltan:  thx for the explaination   ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
[08:20] <spazzymoto_> Hey guys, When i uploaded my scope to the store i got a notification saying it failed with 1 error. Any idea where to find what the error is?
[08:27] <popey> spazzymoto_: it should tell you
[08:28] <popey> spazzymoto_: which scope is it?
[08:29] <popey> oh, is it the google places on?
[08:29] <popey> *one
[08:29] <spazzymoto_> hmm maybe im just blinb but cant see the error anywhere. nah its the Last.fm one
[08:30] <popey> ok, let me look
[08:30] <spazzymoto_> sorry named it last fm no point
[08:30] <spazzymoto_> oooh i found it sorry dude
[08:30] <popey> np
[08:31] <spazzymoto_> 'ubuntu-sdk-14.10' is not a supported framework
[08:31] <spazzymoto_> :/ which should i be using?
[08:31] <bzoltan> spazzymoto_: anything newer
[08:32] <spazzymoto_> ok cool thanks :)
[08:32] <bzoltan> spazzymoto_: 15.04-dev1 for example
[08:33] <popey> thats not valid...
[08:33] <popey> "ubuntu-core-15.04-dev1" is the only valid one in the store which is 15.04
[08:33] <popey> note ubuntu-core, not ubuntu-sdk
[08:44] <mzanetti> rpadovani: good morning
[08:44] <rpadovani> mzanetti, your branch is fucking awesome :D
[08:44] <rpadovani> I'm leaving some comments, but 99% is ready
[08:44] <mzanetti> rpadovani: which one?
[08:45] <rpadovani> mzanetti, all of them, but mainly the new-edit-mode :D
[08:45] <mzanetti> ok :)
[08:45] <mzanetti> yeah... took me awhile to figure this
[08:45] <mzanetti> but seems to work nicely
[08:46] <mzanetti> hah. I found the issue with the textedit not taking input after scrolling
[08:46] <mzanetti> it's a bug in the UbuntuWebView. And I made the same initially because the example in the Qt docs is bogus too
[08:46] <mzanetti> err... Ubuntu TextEdit
[08:48] <rpadovani> lol. mzanetti I just leaved a couple of comments, the most of them are asking information, there is only one useful comment about the code :P
[08:51] <mzanetti> rpadovani: yeah.. the horizontal line can't be displayed by QTextEdit :/
[08:51] <mzanetti> rpadovani: but it still works... you can't see it in edit mode, but if you save the note it'll become visible in the view mode
[08:51] <mzanetti> not sure what to do with it
[08:51] <mzanetti> I'd be sorry to remove what I think is quite useful for note
[08:51] <mzanetti> but this way its quite confusing too
[08:52] <mzanetti> maybe I'll find a way to extract positions of
 tags and just paint the line on top myself
[08:53] <mzanetti> uh... but good catch with the stuff missing after the
 tag
[08:53] <mzanetti> will fix that
[08:55] <mzanetti> rpadovani: also, what I'd like to do is to get rid of the notebook selection in here, and move the title to where the notebook is right now. then making the header smaller (or even remove it) to get more space for the note editing
[08:55] <mzanetti> maybe putting a close button into the toolbox
[08:55] <mzanetti> and then changing notebook could be done in view mode somehow
[08:55] <rpadovani> makes sense
[08:55] <mzanetti> what do you think?
[08:55] <mzanetti> ah ok :)
[08:56] <spazzymoto_> Another probably stupid question, are there any docs on adding a new provider for online accounts? cant seem to find anything
[08:56] <mzanetti> spazzymoto_: I think there are. let me search a bit
[08:57] <rpadovani> mzanetti also for tags, I wait until the merge of your branch to merge mine, so I can place tag edits in the view, as title edit and notebook edit
[08:57] <popey> i saw that discussed on G+ over the weekend
[09:00] <rpadovani> popey, who choose which apps place in the first page of the store?
[09:01] <popey> me ☻
[09:01] <popey> (kidding, it's currently consensus in the community team)
[09:01] <mzanetti> popey: hmm... so now we know who to bribe
[09:01] <popey> I accept bribes, yes.
[09:01] <popey> or "suggestions"
[09:01] <popey> we plan to rotate them round at the moment, so suggestions are indeed welcome
[09:02] <mzanetti> well, only suggestion I have atm is to allow app devs to upload some larger artwork, so the app of the week won't look so bad
[09:02] <rpadovani> popey, since my app is on the first page had a boost, so thanks :D
[09:02] <rpadovani> spazzymoto_, this could be a good start point http://askubuntu.com/questions/279971/how-to-add-support-for-new-services-to-friends
[09:03] <spazzymoto_> ah thank you :)
[09:04] <popey> mzanetti: yeah, good call, we should file a bug in the store. https://bugs.launchpad.net/software-center-agent
[09:04] <mzanetti> popey: current selection of apps seems a good one...  all nice apps.
[09:05] <popey> ☻
[09:05] <rpadovani> when you open the app store you see 4 apps - 3 of them are made by mzanetti :P
[09:05] <popey> yeah, i just noticed that
[09:05] <mzanetti> well...
[09:05] <popey> that wasn't actually part of the reasoning, honestly
[09:05] <mzanetti> the reminders at least doesn't say so
[09:06] <mzanetti> but I mean... reading the comments authenticator and tagger seem to belong into that category...
[09:06] <mzanetti> although tagger might be removed soon ;)
[09:07] <mzanetti> but actually the reminders is probably not good enough yet to be a "top app"
[09:08] <rpadovani> mzanetti, authenticator is awesome, without it I never switched to ubuntu as main phone
[09:09] <dholbach> salud davidcalle - comment ça va?
[09:09] <davidcalle> Hello dholbach, bien et toi?
[09:09] <dholbach> très bien - merci :)
[09:10] <dholbach> davidcalle, I saw the mail from XiaoGuo about the updated scopes template - do you know if there's still things to be updated/changed in the docs?
[09:12] <davidcalle> dholbach, the tutorials have been updated, since the json and xml parsers have been changed in templates. Could you give me the link to the training material?
[09:12] <dholbach> davidcalle, http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/app-dev-training/
[09:12] <dholbach> davidcalle, there's no materials for scopes yet
[09:13] <davidcalle> dholbach, oh ok
[09:13] <davidcalle> dholbach, then we are good :)
[09:13] <mzanetti> rpadovani: thanks :)
[09:13] <dholbach> excellent - thanks
[09:31] <mzanetti> rpadovani: do you already have ideas how to integrate tags into the new edit view?
[09:32] <rpadovani> mzanetti, I think the best way is integrate them in the noteview, and leaving the editnoteview only for editing a note
[09:33] <rpadovani> mzanetti, or, I can insert a button to open the tag edit popup
[09:33] <rpadovani> so, list all tags in the noteview - edit it with a popup and a single button in the editnoteview, what do you think?
[09:34] <mzanetti> mhm... sounds good. I did like the way you added it in the current edit view though
[09:35] <rpadovani> thanks
[09:35] <rpadovani> but there isn't enough space
[09:35] <mzanetti> I agree
[09:36] <mzanetti> hence the proposal to even remove the header
[09:36] <mzanetti> rpadovani: mind sending me over a screenshot if the android evernote app?
[09:37] <rpadovani> mzanetti, I agree with you, but we have to talk with dpm about all that changes :-)
[09:37] <rpadovani> mzanetti, of course, give me few minutes
[09:37] <rpadovani> popey, mihir, dpm I created a branch and a series for calc reboot - it's the basic sdk template, but at least we can fill bug against it and write some code - will be a long work https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/reboot
[09:39] <mzanetti> I'm afraid dpm is still busy with reminder app branches :D
[09:39] <dpm> mzanetti, rpadovani, morning :)
[09:40] <mzanetti> good morning
[09:40] <mzanetti> dpm: FYI, we're gonna drop the save button from the editnoteview :P
[09:40] <popey> rpadovani: thanks!
[09:40] <mzanetti> rpadovani: does that count as "asking"? ^^
[09:40] <rpadovani> dpm, FYI, mzanetti has edit like allllll the app
[09:41] <rpadovani> mzanetti, well, it's a good way to go :D
[09:41] <rpadovani> mzanetti, you should do the same thing for the table mode
[09:41] <dpm> mzanetti, I think I should be done now with testing branches, but we should talk a bit more about the caching branch - I won't have much time today, but maybe tomorrow. Also if we're caching notes, we should share the cached content with the scope
[09:41] <mzanetti> dpm: I fixed the issues you mentioned in the caching branch
[09:42] <mzanetti> dpm: it should be shared automagically with the scope as soon as the scope uses libqtevernote
[09:42] <mzanetti> (I hope)
[09:42] <mzanetti> might be some smaller issues to fix there, but in theory it should work
[09:42] <dpm> mzanetti, the content is saved on the cache dir, right?
[09:42] <mzanetti> yes
[09:44] <rpadovani> mzanetti, I sent you an email with 15 screenshots - I don't have usb cable here at uni, so I used the mail app from the phone, I had no way to compress it or to describe photos, let me know if you don't understand where some screenshots have been shot
[09:44] <dpm> mzanetti, in that case, we might need to keep an eye and add some input to bug 1384286
[09:44] <mzanetti> dude.. if you're in the lecture, you should pay attention there :D
[09:45] <rpadovani> we're doing sql, it's easy :D
[09:46] <mzanetti> fair enough
[09:47] <mzanetti> geez... so many features
[09:47] <mzanetti> and I thought we're done soon
[09:51] <popey> mihir: rpadovani are you able to make 18:00 for calc meeting as for me it clashes at 16:00 with dekko
[09:51] <rpadovani> works for me
[09:51] <popey> ok.
[09:54] <mihir> popey: let me check..
[09:54]  * mihir is bad with time zones
[09:55] <mihir> popey: okay should work for me lil late but fine :)
[10:00] <zbenjamin> sergiusens: ping, hey is there a way to specify the password for the emulator when creating it?
[10:00] <dpm> rpadovani, was https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/reminders-app/multipleAccounts/+merge/237682 working on the phone for you?
[10:01] <zbenjamin> sergiusens: right now its 0000 , but if someone does not follow the log he has to guess which password it is
[10:03] <rpadovani> dpm, when I first tested it worked, but a lot of code has changed. I'll check later
[10:03]  * rpadovani isn't good testing it's own code
[10:10] <popey> mihir: thanks!
[10:20] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy World Orphans Day! :-D
[10:45] <m-b-o> t1mp popey: I've fixed this bug with the Tab titles in the weather app by replacing the createQmlObject hack with a repeater like in shorts app. It suould be fine now!
[10:45] <popey> ooh!
[10:48] <m-b-o> t1mp: I guess, that somewhere in the Tabs component a repeater gets not cleared, when the elements changed, which led to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+bug/1388783 (which is gone now too!)
[10:48] <m-b-o> popey: MP is ready, two critical bugs fixed at once!
[10:49] <t1mp> m-b-o: do you think there still is an issue in the toolkit?
[10:49] <popey> \o/
[10:50] <t1mp> m-b-o: well, good that you fixed it :)
[10:51] <m-b-o> t1mp: can't say.... but at least when using the way it was in weather app: destroying the Tabs for every rebuild and then build them new by createQmlObject afterwards
[10:51] <m-b-o> t1mp: but that was really a hack
[10:55] <kalikiana> karni: can you please top-approve https://code.launchpad.net/~kalikiana/u1db-qt/parentPaths/+merge/241085 so we can land it
[10:59] <popey> m-b-o: approved, thanks!
[11:01] <m-b-o> popey: :)
[11:03]  * popey introduces swordfish90 (terminal dev) to m-b-o (weather dev)
[11:03] <popey> (I mailed swordfish90 about the binary launcher / cmake stuff m-b-o) ☻
[11:03] <m-b-o> popey swordfish90 already happened ;)
[11:03]  * popey is redundant!
[11:21] <nik90> Good afternoon
[11:21] <nik90> popey: you got any of your devices running vivid?
[11:21] <nik90> (on the phone)
[11:25] <popey> nik90: yo. I don't. but happy to flash one to vivid if you need something testing
[11:29] <swordfish90> ahahah popey, don't be sad, you were just three minutes late.
[11:30] <popey> dammit ☻
[11:39] <nik90> popey: I got this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1390992 where alarms are not saved properly. However I haven't touched that code base in like ages. So wondering if any daily vivid users also see the bug.
[11:39] <nik90> popey: but you don't have to flash it since I would need to do it myself to debug it
[11:59] <popey> nik90: ah okay. well let me know if you need me to. I haven't got any vivid devices that I dogfood right now, dunno if anyone else does.. ogra_ ?
[12:00] <ogra_> nope, not atm
[12:00] <popey> know who might?
[12:00] <popey> Or do we not hire people that foolhardy? ☻
[12:00] <popey> hey davmor2 ... ㋛
[12:00] <nik90> lol
[12:00] <ogra_> try davmor2  :)
[12:00] <ogra_> hah
[12:01] <nik90> I see davmor2 has got quite the reputation
[12:02] <dpm> mzanetti, sorry, I couldn't continue the discussion earlier on. So the caching branch: how does it work now after your latest changes?
[12:04] <mzanetti> fetches content on demand
[12:04] <mzanetti> dpm: ^
[12:05] <dpm> mzanetti, cool. Is it ready to test, or are there any other changes you've got on the pipeline?
[12:05] <mzanetti> ready
[12:05] <dpm> \o/
[12:05] <zbenjamin> popey: fyi , the new vivid image have a ssh server that does not work with the QtC in the SDK
[12:06] <ogra_> zbenjamin, you didnt apply the QtC fixes yet ?
[12:06] <zbenjamin> ogra_: working on it atm
[12:06] <ogra_> awesome :)
[12:06] <popey> k
[12:06] <davmor2> I might be testing a vivid build momentarily
[12:06] <ogra_> popey, https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/99054/ and https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTCREATORBUG-13339for reference
[12:07] <zbenjamin> popey: until we release the backported version you can enable the aes128-cbc cipher in the sshd settings on the phone
[12:07] <zbenjamin> popey: sshd config file, not settings ;)
[12:19] <DanChapman> mardy hey, i'm trying to set dekko up to use online accounts, but i can't find any examples of how to get Dekko to show up in the gmail accounts settings to enable access. IS there any documentation anywhere for it?
[12:23] <mzanetti> rpadovani: just fyi, see the last 2 comments here: https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/reminders-app/multipleAccounts/+merge/237682
[12:25] <rpadovani> mzanetti, thanks, dpm said it, I'll investiga when I return from uni tonight, I have no usb cable here :/
[12:25]  * mzanetti wonders what happened to wireless usb
[12:27] <weeman1337> Hello there! I need some information about unity 8 scope development. Anyone here who can help?
[12:28] <davidcalle> weeman1337, sure
[12:28] <weeman1337> Great! ;)
[12:28] <mardy> DanChapman: hi! I've a document ready to be published into the documentation website, I could send that to you by e-mail, if you tell me your address
[12:29] <weeman1337> I'm trying to get the following things working: Annotations (I think this is e.g. a "more" link inside a category) and an options filter
[12:29] <weeman1337> I tried to copy the demo Scope-A, but it doesn't seem to be working
[12:29] <DanChapman> mardy, awesome!! that would be great if you could. My address is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:30] <ogra_> DanChapman, for when is multipart support on the list ?
[12:30]  * ogra_ would really like to be able to read his own mails :)
[12:30] <ogra_> (signed multipart that is)
[12:30] <DanChapman> ogra_: multipart as in multipart/signed (if i recall yours are)
[12:30] <ogra_> yeah
[12:31] <mardy> DanChapman: sent, but you are very welcome to ask me if you have questions
[12:34] <davidcalle> weeman1337, demo Scope-A? I'm not sure if it has been updated with recent API changes... So, the more link automatically appears if you have multiple categories.
[12:36] <weeman1337> davidcalle, this is demo Scope-A: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity-scopes-api/devel/view/head:/demo/scopes/scope-A/scope-A.cpp
[12:37] <weeman1337> davicalle, is it possible to provide a "more" link with only one category?
[12:37] <DanChapman> ogra_: it's in the pipeline. I was playing around with an abandoned branch for it last weekend and it's in need of some work. So in the next few weeks we should have something for multipart/signed/encrypted (providing the re-design isn't too hectic)
[12:38] <DanChapman> mardy: great, thankyou! I'll have a read and come back if i need some more info.
[12:39] <ogra_> DanChapman, awesome !
[12:39] <ogra_> (i wouldnt mind if you just threw away the signature though, but i guess others would)
[12:39] <nerochiaro> artmello: hi, did you have any time to look into using the standard SDK header in camera ?
[12:40] <davidcalle> weeman1337, yes, if you add to your category definition, in template : "collapsed-rows": 2
[12:40] <davidcalle> weeman1337, the category will have a more link after the first two rows of results
[12:40] <artmello> nerochiaro: unfortunately no, fixing issues on gallery
[12:42] <davidcalle> weeman1337, and collapsed-rows=0 expands the category (which is what you have by default).
[12:42] <weeman1337> davidcelle, But then I must already have all the data that should be displayed? My intention is to access the pagination of a web service in the background. If the user finds the desired result on the first page, it's fine. Otherwise he shoud get more results...
[12:42] <nerochiaro> artmello: ok, no worries
[12:42] <davidcalle> weeman1337, ah, you can't do that with scopes for now. It's planned though.
[12:44] <weeman1337> davidcalle, That would be a nice feature! Maybe I'll fake it for the moment by fetching more than one page and displaying only the first.
[12:44] <weeman1337> davidcelle, Here's another one: I tried to add a OptionSelectorFilter, but it doesn't show up. I followed the code example from the demo Scope-A.
[12:45] <davidcalle> weeman1337, what you can do is have the last result of your category that actually triggers another query in the scope (that would be similar to what you want, but would look like a result, not a "more" link).
[12:47] <weeman1337> davidcelle, thanks for that suggestion. I think the "fake-paging" is ok for the moment. If the user doesn't find his result in the first 4 (?) pages he should enter another search term. Nevertheless a paging support would be nice!
[12:51] <davidcalle> weeman1337, just one more thing on paging, you can trigger another search in the scope with having a result uri set to "scope://<id of your scope>?q=<query>"
[13:05] <davidcalle> weeman1337, I'm trying to get filters working as well, please hold on :)
[13:09] <weeman1337> davidcalle, no problem. I'll transform coffee to code so long ;)
[13:12] <davidcalle> weeman1337, on the bright side, Departments are working well.
[13:13] <weeman1337> davidcelle, The ebay scope has working filters. Is the source of this scope available anywhere?
[13:16] <davidcalle> weeman1337, yes, but that won't help you, this scope is not on the device, the Dash queries a server where the scope is running on. The scope itself in is Python and sends everything in JSON to the Dash (departments, filters, results, etc.)
[13:18] <davidcalle> weeman1337, if you are curious about that, have a look at : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-rest-scopes
[13:25] <ahayzen> popey, do you know if there is a bug for if you have silent mode enabled, restart the device, notice that the indicator 'silent mode' toggle is disabled but system-settings it is enabled?
[13:26] <ogra_> ahayzen, bug #1336715 ?
[13:27] <ogra_> (though seb128 mentioned somewhere else there is a more specific one for silent-mode)
[13:27] <ahayzen> ogra_, well not out of sync...just the silent mode in the indicator always starts as disabled you have to disable and then enable silent mode in system settings to get it to toggle
[13:27] <ahayzen> ogra_, its like it doesn't read the setting on startup ... which i guess causes it to be 'out of sync'
[13:28] <seb128> that's different from the one I mentioned
[13:28] <seb128> looks an indicator-sound bug
[13:28] <seb128> should be reported there
[13:28] <ahayzen> ok will do :) thanks seb128 ogra_
[13:29] <seb128> yw!
[13:32] <ahayzen> is anyone able to confirm bug 1391164? seb128 ogra_ ?
[13:37] <ahayzen> t1mp, ping
[13:38] <seb128> ahayzen, I can confirm that issue
[13:38] <ahayzen> seb128, thanks :)
[13:39] <popey> ahayzen: confirmed
[13:39] <ahayzen> popey, \o/
[13:46] <davidcalle> weeman1337, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8919588/
[13:47] <davidcalle> weeman1337, set_display_hints(1) was the missing piece
[13:48] <davidcalle> weeman1337, it's supposed to tell the Dash where to put the UI for filters. Doesn't do anything for now, since there is only 1 position option, but still needed for the UI to appear.
[13:49] <weeman1337> davidcalle, thanks, I'll check it out directly
[13:53] <weeman1337> davidcalle, it's working with this! Thanks very much!
[13:55] <Guest6771> mihir, so going through the backlog of calendar mp's. they should all be mergable if they are ready. I will rebuild them all to see
[13:55] <mihir> Guest6771: Thanks a lot.
[13:55] <Guest6771> bah, I lost my nick, lol
[13:56] <t1mp> ahayzen: hello
[13:56] <balloons> there we go
[13:56] <weeman1337> davidcalle, I'm going back to work now. cu
[13:56] <ahayzen> t1mp, Hey, I've seen an issue with the flickable on desktop where you can scroll with such a high velocity that the whole view is 'flicked' offscreen, should this be possible?
[13:57] <t1mp> ahayzen: what do you mean with "the whole view"? stuff not inside the flickable?
[13:58] <ahayzen> t1mp, yeah eg if you reached the end of the flickable it kept 'flicking' so far that none of the content was show (just a blank screen) until it bounces back?
[13:58] <t1mp> I never saw that
[13:58] <t1mp> and it sounds like that is something that should not happen
[13:59] <ahayzen> t1mp, so if you had a listview and you were scrolling up you can get it where the first delegate goes off the bottom of the scroll briefly
[13:59] <t1mp> ahayzen: can you reproduce that with a Flickable when you don't use Ubuntu.Components? Then I guess its is a bug for the Qt project
[13:59] <ahayzen> *screen
[13:59] <ahayzen> t1mp, yeah this particular case i'm having issues with is with a Flickable but i've seen it in ListView as well
[14:00] <t1mp> ahayzen: or perhaps it is just the boundsbehavior that allows overshooting, see http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qml-qtquick-flickable.html#boundsBehavior-prop
[14:00] <balloons> mihir, ok I think I rebuilt everything that needed it
[14:00] <ahayzen> t1mp, ooo i'll try that thanks :)
[14:00] <ahayzen> t1mp, its a 'feature' then ;)
[14:00] <t1mp> yes :)
[14:01] <mihir> balloons: there are some Mp's that requires some change i'll do that by tomorrow
[14:01] <ahayzen> t1mp, thanks :)
[14:01] <t1mp> np
[14:02] <mihir> popey: on call :D
[14:06] <ahayzen> t1mp, hmm that seems to totally stop the 'bounce' animation you get when it 'overshoots' now the flickable just stops when you get to the top
[14:16] <ahayzen> t1mp, ooo there is a maximumFlickVelocity that is "platform dependent" maybe that needs to be tweaked for desktop as on mobile i haven't seen this issue
[14:19] <balloons> mihir, right just wanted to make sure all mp's had updated jenkins runs
[14:30] <mzanetti> popey: ping
[14:36] <popey> mzanetti: pong
[14:37] <mzanetti> popey: trying to figure what's happening here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1378126
[14:37] <mzanetti> popey: do you have any more details on it? Like is there some scenario where it happens more often?
[14:38] <popey> mzanetti: when waking from suspend, or when the phone has been sat locked for a while
[14:39] <mzanetti> popey: I guess its the focused app waking up, and catching up with stuff
[14:39] <popey> yeah
[14:39] <mzanetti> will try move the waking up until after the lockscreen then
[14:43] <mzanetti> popey: feeling adventurous enough to test a one-line patch regarding this?
[14:43] <popey> sure
[14:43] <mzanetti> popey: ok, log into the phone and open /usr/share/unity8/Shell.qml
[14:44] <mzanetti> popey: line 591 should be this: "value: greeter.shown && greeterWrapper.showProgress == 1"
[14:44] <mzanetti> popey: change it to this: value: (greeter.shown && greeterWrapper.showProgress == 1) || lockscreen.shown
[14:45] <mzanetti> then reboot and try for a while
[14:50] <popey> on a call, will try
[15:08] <sverzegnassi> popey: ping
[15:15] <popey> sverzegnassi: on the phone, but feel free to type at me...
[15:22] <balloons> akiva-thinkpad, just a gentle nudge again on: https://code.launchpad.net/~akiva/sudoku-app/upgrade-ubuntu-components-1.1/+merge/232987 :-) You have a several old mp's out there, would be nice to get them landed
[15:24] <akiva-thinkpad> balloons, np; I thought I merged with trunk
[15:24] <akiva-thinkpad> ah failures
[15:24] <akiva-thinkpad> sec
[15:24] <akiva-thinkpad> okay I see
[15:24] <akiva-thinkpad> sec
[15:26] <akiva-thinkpad> okay done
[15:30] <balloons> akiva-thinkpad, awesome. I pushed a rebuild
[15:30] <akiva-thinkpad> awesome
[15:31] <brendand_> popey, who should i nag to get reminders updated? you?
[15:31] <popey> brendand_: ---> balloons
[15:31] <balloons> brendand_, popey and I can make it happen.. something you want?
[15:32] <balloons> I guess popey's right.. it's just me and usain bot
[15:32] <brendand_> balloons, there are test fixes commited which havent' made it on to the dashboard yet
[15:33] <balloons> brendand_, let me push trunk then
[15:34] <balloons> oO, this is quite behind
[15:35] <davmor2> charles, nik90: small issue today on a fresh install of vivid 15 on mako I set an alarm for 2 minutes time (current time was 15:28, alarm set for 15:30) and got this http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/alarm.png
[15:37] <balloons> brendand_, new version should be in the next image
[15:44] <karni> kalikiana: (I'm no holiday, but) I can't top-approve on the project I don't belong to. https://code.launchpad.net/~kalikiana/u1db-qt/parentPaths/+merge/241085
[15:44] <seb128> hum
[15:44] <karni> kalikiana: I see "needs review" but can't top-approve
[15:44] <seb128> has the "sync" menu item been removed from calendar on purpose?
[15:47] <balloons> popey, can you +1? Someone pushed a .latest version to the store for terminal and borked versioning: https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/ubuntu-terminal-app/bump-version/+merge/241292
[15:50] <nik90> davmor2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1390992
[15:50] <davmor2> nik90: nice one
[15:50] <nik90> davmor2: I haven't changed any code for weeks now...I have no idea what's causing that
[15:50] <davmor2> nik90: as long as it is known
[15:51] <nik90> davmor2: also my primary dogfooding phone is on rtm at the moment
[15:51] <sverzegnassi> dpm: as you have time, could you please review two branches for docviewer-app?
[15:51] <davmor2> nik90: I'm assuming new eds in vivid is set to 1970 again
[15:52] <nik90> davmor2: I guess o
[15:52] <nik90> so*
[15:57] <popey> balloons: done
[15:57] <popey> balloons: was probably me
[15:59] <balloons> popey, ack, ty. I pushed updates for shorts, weather, music and reminders
[16:02] <popey> ooh
[16:15] <kalikiana> karni: you are a u1db dev as of now. please top-approve :-P
[16:16] <kalikiana> sorry to bug you during your holidays… I will do the landing of course
[16:38] <popey> balloons: we need to add docviewer to the core apps sheet
[16:39] <ogra_> is it in the store already ?
[16:39] <popey> not yet
[16:39] <popey> soon
[16:39] <popey> very very soon
[16:40] <ogra_> heh
[16:44] <sverzegnassi> Yep, just a few thing are missing for the first release
[16:44] <sverzegnassi> Things*
[16:59] <balloons> popey, ahh, the blocker sheet yes? easily done
[17:00] <popey> mzanetti: seems better, but need to test longer
[17:28] <mzanetti> popey: cool, keep me posted... I wasn't sure if it really helped
[17:28] <mzanetti> not sure how to measure this
[17:30] <popey> will do
[18:05] <dpm> popey, do you know how to sync calendars now in the calendar app? It seems that the action in the header to sync disappeared
[18:28] <rpadovani> sverzegnassi, o/ how are you?
[18:35] <popey> mzanetti: we should do this ☻ https://plus.google.com/u/0/115576844812998187455/posts/SaVdwbJZ91Q
[18:36] <mzanetti> popey: uh... I wouldn't want this
[18:36] <sverzegnassi> rpadovani: hi! i'm fine, i had a good comeback from USA. How are you?
[18:36] <mzanetti> popey: I guess the time I require to find the buttons to press leaves more time for someone else to see which number I pressed
[18:37] <rpadovani> sverzegnassi, great, thanks :-) Next 22nd of November there is ubuntu-it meeting in Bologna. I know is far, but do you want to join us? :-)
[18:51] <sverzegnassi> rpadovani: yeah, it's far... :P i'd like to join you, but i need to see if i can
[19:22] <balloons> akiva-thinkpad, let me know if you need help getting anything else landed
[19:22] <balloons> thanks for getting sudoku finally merged
[19:33] <qtros> bzolan hello!
[19:34] <qtros> bzolan I want to ask about yesterday performance issue in QtCreator! Did you test new version? :)
[19:42] <popey> balloons: any luck with docviewer in jenkins?
[19:42] <balloons> popey, yes I'm fixing it now actually
[19:42] <popey> yay
[20:02] <qtros> popey hello!)
[20:03] <qtros> popey can't wait Shorts redesign)
[20:18] <mzanetti> rpadovani: I think I'm gonna give up on painting a
 in TextEdit
[20:18] <rpadovani> mzanetti, you can fill a bug upstream :-)
[20:18] <mzanetti> rpadovani: think we should remove that feature from the toolbox then?
[20:19] <rpadovani> mzanetti, tbh yes, it's a bit confusing editing a note without seeing it
[20:19] <mzanetti> yeah... too bad though. I think that would be nice
[20:27] <rpadovani> you always could add it later
[20:45] <mzanetti> rpadovani: pushed
[20:47] <mzanetti> rpadovani: hmm, the other thing, about the bold + \n... not sure if that's really an issue
[20:48] <mzanetti> that's the behavior QTextEdit. I guess it's not worth changing that
[20:50] <rpadovani> mzanetti, ack, I'll test it asap
[21:32] <daker> anyone knows how to get the emulator working, black screen :/
[21:46] <ogra_> daker, what channel/image ?
[21:49] <daker> ogra_: i mean i wasn't able to get it working since the launch of the emulator
[21:49] <daker> rtm-proposed i guess
[21:49] <ogra_> rtm-devel has definitely been tested before promotion ... i'm sure it works
[21:49] <ogra_> (on i386 ... i doubt anyone used (or tested) armhf for the last few months)
[21:50] <daker> $ ubuntu-emulator list
[21:50] <daker> UT      ubuntu=20141110,device=20141106.1,version=121
[21:52] <ogra_> and thats i386 ?
[21:52] <ogra_> armhf needs like 15min to boot ... it wont show anything onscreen for quite a while
[21:52] <daker> ogra_: how can i know ? i don't remembrer which one i did select
[21:53] <ogra_> hmm
[21:53] <ogra_> i dont see any option ypu could use ...
[21:53] <ogra_> i personally put the arch into the instance name usually
[21:54] <daker> ok i'll delete it and create a new one
[21:55] <daker> ogra_: what do you recommend i386 ? rtm-devel ?
[21:55] <ogra_> yeah, that is definitely tested for functinality
[21:55] <ogra_> if it doesnt, blame davmor2 ;)
[21:56] <daker> ogra_: wait i don't see rtm-devel
[21:56] <ogra_> i do ...
[21:56] <ogra_> http://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/devel/generic_x86/
[21:58] <daker> ogra_: https://i.imgur.com/iHWQKUf.png
[21:59] <ogra_> sudo ubuntu-emulator create rtm-devel-x86 --channel=ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/devel --arch=i386
[21:59] <ogra_> yeah, that should work
[21:59] <daker> ok thanks!
[22:38] <ahayzen> popey, FYI we have https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/music-app/remix-rewrite-column-flow/+merge/241338 ... now just waiting on review from Victor :) hopefully not too many issues
[22:49] <daker> ogra_: do you see anything wrong here ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8928320/
[22:49] <ogra_> daker, not really i think
[22:49] <ogra_> do you see the emulator in adb ?
[22:50] <daker> ogra_: yes
[22:50] <daker> $ adb devices
[22:50] <daker> List of devices attached
[22:50] <daker> emulator-5554	device
[22:50] <ogra_> looks fine
[22:58] <daker> ogra_: still nothing, black screen :/
[22:58] <ogra_> weird, it definitely works fine here
[22:58] <ogra_> (though i dont use the sdk)
[22:59] <daker> i did run ubuntu-emulator run rtm-devel-x86
[22:59] <ogra_> yeah, that should work
[23:00] <ogra_> do you have any expotic graphics card in your PC ?
[23:00] <ogra_> *exotic
[23:01] <daker> $ lspci | grep "VGA"
[23:01] <daker> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[23:01] <ogra_> hmm, intel should be fine ... very weird
[23:01] <nik90> daker: how long did you wait? The first boot usually takes about 4-5 minutes on my core i7 laptop
[23:02] <daker> +20min
[23:02] <nik90> that's strange
[23:02] <daker> log http://paste.ubuntu.com/8928475/
[23:02] <ogra_> nik90, shouldnt anymore ... x86 is really fast and the apparmor profiles are pre-compiled nowadays
[23:03] <nik90> ok
[23:04] <popey> ahayzen: awesome
[23:04] <ogra_> the complaining about units is a bit weird at the bottom of that log
[23:18] <karni> kalikiana: sorry, I couldn't do it earlier, lp page didn't work well on the phone. but I saw on the other chan you already know I approved it :)
[23:18] <karni> g'night!
[23:18] <ajalkane> anyone with Jenkins/autopilot experience that can help with this: https://code.launchpad.net/~nikwen/ubuntu-filemanager-app/zips/+merge/239662
[23:19] <karni> (and no re: holiday, these things happen, I'm glad we'll land the fix)
[23:23] <daker> ogra_: my laptop did shutdown, had to start the emulator again and now :D signal: segmentation fault (core dumped)
[23:32] <dslul> hello, anyone knows how to convert a Variant variable to std::string?
[23:37] <dslul> never mind, i figured it out
[23:44] <ahayzen> popey, would you be able to test a click for us?


[00:09] <guiverc> @hook, I've booted impish/21.10 on thinkpads without issue; there is/was a known issue with ZFS (wasn't known at release time I believe but shortly after) with fix released.  I'd ensure your ISO was valid & write to media was perfect
[00:11] <guiverc> If you're asking about the Canary installer (still built on impish, 21.10 has been released so it's mostly a support issue now; not quality - but canary build is still impish); it's not the ISO boot that's a concern, just the new installer.
[01:12] <ItzSwirlz> JAMMY! Cinnamon 4.8.6 curse is broken. I'll queue a buil
 I'm always getting this error no matter where I run.. Be it Lenovo ThinkPad, Lenovo Thinkcenter.I don't understand why ? : https://matterbridge.thomas-ward.net/7078b9d8/file_97.jpg
 I tried using different media but yet no luck..
[02:08] <guiverc> @hook, Ubuntu 21.10 has been released; so I'd suggest using a support group and not this QA channel.  If you validated the ISO then it's the write to media that is most at fault in my experience; check you used an appropriate method with up-to-date software
 https://t.me/ubuntusupport is a support room  ; not intended for QA testers (be it jammy or what will be 22.04, *focal* or what will be 20.04.4  on release etc) (re @hook: )
 My Checksum didn't match with the original iso...
 How can I correct this without downloading the entire iso again (re @ubuntu_bridge_Bot: (irc) <guiverc> @hook, I've booted impish/21.10 on thinkpads without issue; there is/was a known issue with ZFS (wasn't known at release time I believe but shortly after) with fix released.  I'd ensure your ISO was valid & write to media was perfect)
[07:55] <guiverc> @hook, I use `zsync` to update an ISO & download only differences (at the start of the now jammy cycle; I'll start with an impish ISO)
[07:57] <guiverc> ps: if I want to download a flavor I don't have, i'll pick another ISO that I think is closest (different release; or same release but different flavor) then use `zsync` to again update to ISO I want via download of differences
 I tried utorrent and it worked for me.... Thank you everyone now my Checksum matched with the original...
 utorrent fix my iso...
 I'll go and install my Ubuntu 21.10 again... Thank everyone
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> https://imgur.com/a/ftJstqC
[17:35] <ItzSwirlz> UCR Jammy build needs time for the packages to queue in Launchpad, going to test a jammy build on live session on my gamingn rig whos calling dibs, first to call gets it
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> first impression is great ItzSwirlz
[17:39] <ItzSwirlz> I was just trying to be energetic/lively :D
[17:40] <ItzSwirlz> I don't know what spin to pick, so yeah. I don't have an extra HDD lying around sadly.. yet.
[17:40]  * ItzSwirlz looks over birthday gift money, realizes he needs to do thank you cards and should start investing in a hdd
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> i got a spare laptop to early test here
[17:41] <ItzSwirlz> cool! lapzilla sadly as i mentioned earlier is sadly a 32-bit and max ram is 1 GB, so most it'll do is 16.04 lubuntu
 https://matterbridge.thomas-ward.net/51f73a6a/file_98.jpg
 ehm… Bluetooth?
 Anddd triggered a crash, good job me :D


[12:02] <njin> hallo, running update-manager -d I got :
[12:04] <njin> The requested URL /ubuntu/dists/raring/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/DevelReleaseAnnoncement.html not found on this server
[15:28] <pranith> any update on bug 1081307?
[15:28] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1081307 in virtualbox (Ubuntu Quantal) "virtualbox-dkms 4.1.12-dfsg-2ubuntu0.2: virtualbox kernel module failed to build [merge request]" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1081307
[15:31] <pranith> How can I be a member of a team on launchpad?
[15:37] <robru> pranith, if you go to the team page it should have a "join this team" button... some teams are open, some teams may require approval
[16:25] <melodie> hello
[16:29] <melodie> I am being building a remix of Ubuntu which I started with Ubuntu Mini Remix and built on it with several tools and now Ubuntu Builder which is the best easy to go for now. My aim is to make fast a "model" before going further. Normally I should now have found out all the necessary packages to have something working well, such as ibus packages, gtk3 packages, libc6* and such packages. I meet with 2 issues: gtk-software-properties is started in
[16:29] <melodie>  the live and crashes, and also is apt-xapian-html : if I remove the file /etc/xdg/software-properties-gtk.desktop from the build directory before starting the generation of the iso, the problem is solved. My question is : is it a bug ? Or is it something which might be missing in my list of installed packages ?
[16:37] <melodie> I'll leave the question opened, even if I won't be around more than about half an hour now. I'll stay connected
[20:10] <melodie> hello
[20:45] <melodie> hi


[00:00]  * guiverc is going to add two summaries to uwn 822 shortly
[00:00] <Bashing-om> ack - got one coomented.
[00:03] <guiverc> I saw a few comments.. articles I've not yet got to ; sorry no response(s) [yet]
[00:04] <guiverc> also noted "Please feel free to add comments to help explain changes and/or additions to the UWN to other editors."  <-  that wording matched gdoc better than here... we may want to amend..
[00:05]  * guiverc wanting to disappear from here awhile; why I wanted to paste summaries done thus far.. & no response(s) yet.. comment something I noted...
[00:05] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Sounds good - make it so :D
[01:43]  * guiverc going to add some more summaries (shortly; will scan what i typed first then add)
[01:50]  * guiverc wonders if 822 is setup as wiki? (i don't see edit.. maybe I'm blind)  out anyway...
[02:00] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Best I recall - I did set WIKI - checking :)
[02:02] <guiverc> you may have... i expected an EDIT button at bottom & didn't see it (you/me can hit pen to edit anyway.. edit allows others to step in & contribute)
[02:02] <Bashing-om> guiverc: ^ I did just now set/re-set the page as WIKI:(
[02:03] <guiverc> I see edit button now, thanks Bashing-om
[02:10]  * guiverc is going to add one... my concentration isn't good enough for a wayland summary right now.. will try again later (after bird/park walk maybe)
[02:13] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Wayland summary will be tough - long blog and of some detail.
[02:16] <guiverc> Well at least I started it... two words; being author's name.... but it's a start :)
[03:54]  * guiverc will add 2x summaries shortly..
[04:10] -ubottu:#ubuntu-news- ::planet:: Ubuntu Blog: Cloud-native infrastructure – When the future meets the present @ https://ubuntu.com//blog/cloud-native-infrastructure
[04:28]  * guiverc gonna add some more..
[04:31]  * guiverc out
[04:58] <guiverc> Bashing-om, links https://www.phoronix.com/news/GNOME-Shell-Mutter-46-Alpha & https://www.phoronix.com/news/GNOME-46-Alpha-Released cover more or less the same material..
[04:59] <guiverc> i'll add a summary for it... (sort of continue from prior one & comment there)
[05:00] <guiverc> nah... skipping; it's already covered with "list of new features" in prior summary...
[05:00]  * guiverc going to edit (very soon)
[05:03] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Same material - no need to duplicate effort - Bad head ache and did not make the connection.
[05:05] <guiverc> take it easy, drink plenty of water.. & sleep (when you can) I suggest.. & thanks
[05:06] <guiverc> I didn't remove it..   I'm out (reading changes currently in review)
[05:06] <guiverc> that could be listed as a secondary item under first one
[05:11] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Arthrytis in my shoulder goes up my neck - ear ache and bad bad head aches ... The body pain prevents sleeping - and yes ... need to drink lots of water - lube them joints :P
[05:25] <guiverc> ouch & understand...


[16:15] <hannie> hi vibhav
[16:15] <hannie> I am currently reading your email about lp branch
[16:29] <CarstenG> Hi Hannie :-)
[16:30] <CarstenG> Thanks for your reply to my question yesterday.
[16:31] <CarstenG> I just try to improve it a bit, so that the links are working in the glossary and index as well...
[16:45] <hannie> hey CarstenG
[16:45] <hannie> I think you are doing a great job.
[16:47] <CarstenG> Thanks :-) Maybe we could implement this script for further translation drafts...
[16:47] <hannie> yes, I would most certainly like to use it for the Dutch translation of 14.04
[16:50] <CarstenG> Well, I hope to get it ready for 13.04 as well. :-)
[16:50] <hannie> sure
[16:51] <CarstenG> Or do you plan to translate only the LTS versions?
[16:52] <hannie> Yes, since we have only 2 translators. The other only want to translate the GUI
[16:53] <CarstenG> ah, ok
[16:53] <hannie> But the French will most certainly translate 13.04, and the German, Russiioan, Slovenian, Spanish teams
[16:53] <hannie> *russian
[16:53] <CarstenG> German... we will see :-)
[16:54] <hannie> It is a lot of work, so it depends on the number of translators in a team
[16:54] <CarstenG> First we have to finish the 12.04.
[16:54] <hannie> When will that be?
[16:54] <CarstenG> and reviewers...
[16:55] <hannie> Yes, reviewers are just as important
[16:55] <CarstenG> well, Daniel is now at page 63 with review..
[16:55] <hannie> Oops!
[16:56] <hannie> Schury?
[16:56] <CarstenG> Yes
[16:56] <CarstenG> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGermanTranslators/UbuntuManual
[16:58]  * vibhav waves at hannie
[16:58] <hannie> Hi vibhav Glad you are active in the team again
[16:59] <hannie> CarstenG, that is a beautiful page
[16:59] <hannie> I will send you a link to mine in a minute
[17:00] <vibhav> I was always active anyway :)
[17:00] <CarstenG> Thanks, Daniel created it. :-)
[17:00] <CarstenG> Hi Sylvie.
[17:00] <hannie> hey, look who is here! Hi cqf
[17:00] <vibhav> It is just that I start working in the project after ui freeze
[17:00] <cqfd93> Hi Hannie and Carsten!
[17:01] <hannie> vibhav, true, but if you are also an author you might start to have a look at what's new in Raring
[17:02] <vibhav> Yes, I will soon start on March 20
[17:02] <vibhav> I added some bugs to software management
[17:02] <hannie> you can fix them if you like
[17:03] <vibhav> Sut
[17:03] <vibhav> Sure*
[17:03] <vibhav> Mt exams will end of 20 match and by then I will start :)
[17:03] <vibhav> My*
[17:03] <vibhav> S/of/on/
[17:04] <hannie> Nice! Success with your exams. That is priority no 1
[17:04] <vibhav> Thanks =)
[17:05] <hannie> Got to go. See you all
[17:05] <vibhav> Same here
[17:05] <vibhav> Good night  team
[17:05] <CarstenG> see you