[10:07] <mikebeecham> RatThing: I did have firestarter installed, but for some reason it was knocking out the access to a shared folder, despite me adding in the IP address of the media center that was accessing it.  The only way to restore the connection was to disable Firestarter...I guess it is just a case of setting it up correctly
[10:07] <erUSUL> sachi: worls here for what is worth... have you checked the key assoc?
[10:08] <sachi> whtas that
[10:10] <erUSUL> sachi: sorry i mean check that shift + f9 is actually the keys asociated with thast action
[10:10] <sachi> ive checked that and those r the right keys
[10:10] <RatThing> mikebeecham, if by shared you mean samba (?) then you just have to enable samba's port range. One easy way of doing it is to let firestarter block it, look in the event tab, find the block message, right click on the block message and select "Allow...".
[10:11] <RatThing> mikebeecham event tab of firestarter that is.
[10:11] <mikebeecham> RatThing: I will have a look at that when I get home :D
[10:13] <RatThing> Ein_ which scanner do you have
[10:14] <Ein_> I have Epson Stylus Photo RX520
[10:14] <sachi> #ubuntu-sr
[10:14] <RatThing> Ein_ is it a USB scanner?
[10:15] <Ein_> yes
[10:16] <darin> nvidia refer's me to here for kernel driver issues...anyone willing to point me in the right direction?
[10:16] <RatThing> Ein_ here's the basic setup method, see how you feel about it :-) You have to find a .bin file on the Windows installation CD that came with that scanner...
[10:16] <Ein_> ok?
[10:16] <RatThing> Ein_ then it has to be copied to a directory and a configuration file has to be editied.
[10:17] <RatThing> Ein_ pretty much that is it.
[10:17] <paradon> I'm having a really annoying problem with Gutsy on my laptop
[10:17] <paradon> After it's been running a few hours, it does this wierd thing
[10:17] <Ein_> how I can Edit it?
[10:17] <sachi> which is the best linux till now which version
[10:17] <paradon> the "system" CPU usage jumps to about 50% for 15-20 seconds, and everything pretty much stops responding
[10:18] <dgjones> !best | sachi
[10:18] <ubotu> sachi: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[10:18] <paradon> then it's ok for 15-20 seconds, then it 'hangs' again for 15-20 seconds, etc....
[10:18] <paradon> How can I find out what's causing it?
[10:18] <RatThing> Ein_ another thing is to find out if xsane supports your scanner :-) just googling now.
[10:18] <dgjones> sachi, there isn't a best version, its whats most suitable for your own use, I like Ubuntu because it does everything I need
[10:18] <glick> hello
[10:19] <edd_> hello
[10:19] <glick> excuse me i just upgraded to gibbon and i lost all my 3d desktop settings
[10:19] <sachi> aha ok
[10:19] <glick> where do i set up the 3d cube and stuff again
[10:19] <sachi> im a new guy here for ubuntu
[10:19] <sachi> just to check
[10:19] <dgjones> !compiz | glick
[10:19] <ubotu> glick: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[10:19] <edd_> no
[10:20] <Ein_> I have xsane ;)
[10:20] <brobostigon> hi, good morning
[10:20] <RatThing> Ein_ I googled "sane epson RX520" and the top problems seem to be on OS/2 so prolly it will work.
[10:20] <edd_> i'm poland
[10:21] <sachi> is there any possibility to put the fire back from a window
[10:21] <edd_> he
[10:21] <edd_> co u was??
[10:21] <dgjones> !pl | edd_, If you want Ubuntu support in Polish, this may help you
[10:21] <ubotu> edd_, If you want Ubuntu support in Polish, this may help you: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:22] <edd_> bay bay
[10:22] <Ein_> I'll try to solve it
[10:23] <RatThing> Ein_ http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_Photo_RX520
[10:23] <RatThing> Ein_ for a little information on your printer with Linux
[10:24] <RatThing> Ein_ install xsane: sudo apt-get install xsane
[10:24] <RatThing> Ein_ you are going to need that for the scanning.
[10:24] <RatThing> Ein_ xsane is the scanning application.
[10:26] <RatThing> Ein_ once xsane is installed you need to edit a file in /etc/sane.d/
[10:27] <edd_> cześć
[10:27] <RatThing> Ein_ sorry to be vague but it will be a .conf file that makes mention of your scanner.
[10:27] <edd_> co u was??
[10:27] <dgjones> !cz | edd_
[10:27] <ubotu> edd_: České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.
[10:27] <glick> why why are emblems in gibbon so small?
[10:28] <Ein_> now I'm downloading the driver from the  site you given me
[10:28] <edd_> uboto ty jeto to czeskie??
[10:28] <Ein_> no problem
[10:28] <edd_> co??
[10:28] <RatThing> Ein_ copy the .bin file from your Windows installation CD to: /usr/share/sane/mayBeAnotherDir/
[10:29] <glick> the emblems in the file manager are super small
[10:29] <glick> can i get them largers>?
[10:29] <edd_> si
[10:29] <edd_> pl
[10:29] <gordonjcp> !pl | edd_
[10:29] <ubotu> edd_: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:30] <cruox> How can I get windows on multiple levels while rotating my desktop-cube?
[10:30] <cruox> I saw that effect somewhere and dunno if it's for compiz.
[10:30] <RatThing> Ein_ In the .conf file I mentioned, changed the firemware reference to that bin file so: firmware /usr/share/sane/mayBeAnotherDir/your.bin
[10:30] <RatThing> Ein_ restart the scanner.
[10:31] <RatThing> Ein_ Start xsane
[10:32] <glick> anyone else have that issue?
[10:32] <glick> emblems being really tiny?
[10:34] <shameless_> i'm trying to get an STMicroelectronics finger print scanner to work on my laptop, has anyone dealt with one of those?
[10:35] <Ein_> the file I download it is .rpm file type and I can't open it
[10:35] <RatThing> Ein_ no don't try to open it. it is a driver that has to be installed.
[10:36] <Ein_> I see
[10:36] <RatThing> Ein_ sorry my misunderstanding...
[10:36] <Ein_> I think that also :)
[10:36] <mikebeecham> Does anyone know if there is support for Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000 within Gutsy Gibbon?  I've looked on the forums and cannot find anything similiar
[10:37] <Ein_> ok... this .rpm file where I can but it?
[10:37] <Oli``> Kaffeine, Amarok and Firefox are all set to use ALSA (aoss for Firefox), but only one can use sound at the same time. What's likely to be my issue?
[10:39] <LeenuxRawksAll> hi guys
[10:39] <LeenuxRawksAll> big problems here...
[10:40] <LeenuxRawksAll> I had 2 different ubuntu installs on my machine, one on sda1 and sda 3, well I deleted the one on sda3 and now I can't boot my primary partition, even after Re-installing ubuntu to the second partition
[10:41] <shameless_> did you reformat that partition before you tried reinstalling to it?
[10:41] <LeenuxRawksAll> yes of course
[10:42] <LeenuxRawksAll> basically, grub isn't seeing the other, older install
[10:42] <RatThing> Ein_ a .rpm file is a packaged up bunch of files, sort of like a
[10:42] <RatThing> 		   zip file so you have to extract the files from it in order to use
[10:42] <RatThing> 		   them.
[10:43]  * RatThing gives up having a bad keyboard day... :-D
[10:43] <mikebeecham> RatThing : you had a bad keyboard day yesterday as well mate...you have run out of excuses :D
[10:43] <GerrySly> hey guys, I'm having trouble with my sound card, nothing is playing through amarok and the error message I get is Audio output unavailable; the device is busy.
[10:43] <GerrySly> yet no other program is running which would take the sound card
[10:44] <RatThing> mikebeecham thanks for the support :-/
[10:44] <Snakudes> If you run vsftpd, is it possible to mount 2 HDD's en the same directory then?
[10:44] <Snakudes> I mean visuallly for my FTP users
[10:44] <RatThing> :-)
[10:44] <dgjones> LeenuxRawksAll, are you abe to mount sda1 from within your fresh install to check what is in the first install's fstab? Possibly you just need to copy that info over into the fstab for the new install
[10:44] <mikebeecham> RatThing: ...I meant to say that this is very unusual for you, and you should just put it down to tiredness and a lack of coffee in your system :D
[10:44] <LeenuxRawksAll> dgjones, I try to open it and all I get is a "Lost and Found" folder...
[10:46] <MindSpark> hi, does anyone know what I have to do to bypass the starting fsck ? grub command ?
[10:47] <dgjones> LeenuxRawksAll, i'm not sure whats happened, but it sounds as though its been formatted if thats all thats left, can you tell how much free space and what size the partition was originally?
[10:47] <vlt> Hello. What's the difference between the ubuntu 6.06 LTS kernel packages linux-image-{386,686,k7} and linux-image-server?
[10:47] <bullgard4> What is meant by 'job' in man initctl?
[10:47] <LeenuxRawksAll> total capacity is 25gb with only 1.5 used
[10:48] <LeenuxRawksAll> on sda1
[10:48] <mikebeecham> Does anyone know if there is support for the logitech QuickCam Pro 4000?
[10:48] <LeenuxRawksAll> I tried to Chown but it kept giving me "invalid user" errors...
[10:48] <LeenuxRawksAll> It's still there... it's just not seeing it...
[10:48] <RatThing> mikebeecham have you got the webcam attached right now?
[10:49] <tntCry> how can you reset xchat to default settings?
[10:49] <mikebeecham> RatThing: it's a general question at this point, as I am at work...but the camera is plugged in at home, eys
[10:49] <mikebeecham> yes
[10:49] <dgjones> LeenuxRawksAll, 1.5Gb seems low for an install of ubuntu though, thats what made me think it might have been formatted, is it the same format type ext3 etc as the new install
[10:49] <MindSpark> tntCry, rm -rf ~/.xchat
[10:49] <LeenuxRawksAll> sda1 is ext3 and the new one is ext2
[10:49] <RatThing> mikebeecham first thing to do is type: lsusb
[10:49] <LeenuxRawksAll> think that might be it?
[10:49] <tntCry> so rm -rf ~/. anything will reset ? like pidgins kopete ect.?
[10:50] <RatThing> mikebeecham to see if it is listed, I am certain it will be.
[10:50] <MindSpark> tntCry, it will delete your configuration, but if you have a download directory inside, it will be deleted as well
[10:50] <tntCry> mindframe_, i typed it in console
[10:50] <tntCry> i muys tclose and come back
[10:50] <tntCry> brb
[10:50] <MindSpark> tntCry, and it's rm -rf ~/.xchat, not rm -rf ~/.
[10:50] <mikebeecham> ok...taking notes now
[10:50] <RatThing> mikebeecham then install: xawtv & webcam
[10:51] <RatThing> mikebeecham then run at a console: xawtv -hwscan
[10:51] <LeenuxRawksAll> see, I've had sda1 installed for months... and I created another partition with gparted and did another install of ubuntu on it, but decided to delete that new install, and for some reason, the old grub didn't click in to boot the system...
[10:51] <mikebeecham> RatThing: what is xawtv?
[10:51] <RatThing> mikebeecham that will determain if the current installed drivers are there.
[10:51] <MindSpark> tntCry, I hope you didn't remove ~/.
[10:51] <rambo3> vlt, 686 is generic now.  those are p1 , p2-4p, amd , linux-image server i don't know what that is
[10:52] <MindSpark> any grub gurus here ?
[10:52] <LeenuxRawksAll> when I installed ubuntu on sda3 last time, it picked it right up...isn't there a way that I can add grub back to sda1?
[10:52] <MindSpark> I need to bypass fsck on startup
[10:52] <RatThing> mikebeecham xawtv can be used for many things including controlling webcams :-)
[10:52] <dgjones> LeenuxRawksAll, when I've had multiple installations, the grub that was used was the most recent one, so presumably deleting the original grub
[10:52] <tntCry> didnt work
[10:52] <dgjones> !grub | LeenuxRawksAll, You could try this and see if it can redect your original install and
[10:52] <ubotu> LeenuxRawksAll, You could try this and see if it can redect your original install and: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:52] <tntCry> rm -rf ~/.xchat
[10:52] <tntCry> this didnt work :( rm -rf ~/.xchat
[10:53] <tntCry> mindframe_,
[10:53] <rambo3> MindSpark, that would be in fstab
[10:53] <tntCry> MindSpark,  i mean
[10:53] <rambo3> !fstab |  MindSpark
[10:53] <ubotu> MindSpark: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[10:53] <LeenuxRawksAll> will do... I'll report back with progress
[10:53] <LeenuxRawksAll> Thank you!
[10:53] <dgjones> LeenuxRawksAll, Good luck, hope it works for you
[10:53] <rambo3> MindSpark, < 5th and 6th columns: Dump and fsck options >
[10:53] <vlt> rambo3: I was especially intersted in the "-server" part ;-) Hmmmm ... Do you know by which kernel (in 6.06 LTS) PAE is supported?
[10:54] <vlt> rambo3: interested*
[10:54] <mikebeecham> RatThing: ok..I will do that
[10:54] <rambo3> pie ?
[10:54] <MindSpark> rambo3, yes, but I can't startup, the system stops at fsck
[10:54] <MindSpark> rambo3, my question is how to set that from grub
[10:55] <rambo3> vlt, everyone of them
[10:56] <tntCry> this didnt work :( rm -rf ~/.xchat MindSpark
[10:56] <MindSpark> tntCry, try rm -rf /.xchat2/
[10:56] <MindSpark> woops, wait, sorry
[10:56] <MindSpark> tntCry, try rm -rf ~/.xchat2/
[10:57] <blackfox_> how to install game at wine?
[10:57] <blackfox_> i dont understand now ..
[10:57] <MindSpark> blackfox_, wine <file>
[10:57] <vlt> rambo3: "kernel: [17179569.184000] Linux version 2.6.15-29-k7 \n kernel: [17179569.184000] Warning only 4GB will be used. \n kernel: [17179569.184000] Use a PAE enabled kernel."
[10:58] <MindSpark> abdulla, looks like it worked this time, eh ?
[10:58] <tntCry> :D
[10:58] <tntCry> yes
[10:58] <MindSpark> ;)
[10:58] <tntCry> i want to keep this command for future sake
[10:58] <blackfox_> but that only run at c:\\windows\\system32\\install.exe
[10:58] <MindSpark> you don't need to "keep" it
[10:58] <tntCry> i type all the commands i learn in my tomboys notes
[10:58] <MindSpark> most configuration files are in the home directory under .<programname>
[10:59] <rambo3> vlt, then you have to build one your self
[10:59] <MindSpark> so xchat configs are in ~/.xchat2
[10:59] <MindSpark> ~ = home directory
[10:59] <Q_Continuum> Gutsy - suddenly my left speaker is dead.  (Same with headphones, so not a hardware issue, likely)  Fix besides reboot?
[11:00] <tntCry> btw MindSpark i find ubuntu easier then Kubuntu for getting a package
[11:00] <tntCry> i mean bythat , is when installing themes in ubuntu is easy but with kubuntu its abit complicated however you have many things you can do with a few mouse clicks..
[11:00] <tntCry> but kubuntu seems complicated tho..
[11:01] <blackfox_> my installer at /home/blackfox/.wine/drive_c/perfect/install.exe
[11:01] <blackfox_> what can i do ?
[11:01] <tntCry> ubuntu i had it customized in less then 2 minutes :) while with my families computer i ruined theyr Kubuntu ,, and the close minmize maximize and toolbar and the file view tools in firefox all look smallll like an ant
[11:02] <tntCry> MindSpark, look at my desktop for ubuntu http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/2/f_Screenshot2m_c82fb7b.png&srv=img27
[11:02] <_6StringKng_> what theme is that?
[11:02] <_6StringKng_> linsta?
[11:03] <tntCry> no
[11:03] <tntCry> meemox
[11:03] <_6StringKng_> ah
[11:03] <_6StringKng_> I haven't found a good theme yet
[11:03] <tntCry> i mean moomex
[11:03] <_6StringKng_> need to find a goo d looking blue one
[11:03] <ikonia> _6StringKng_: gome-look.org
[11:03] <tntCry> can we hack the kicker of gnome>?
[11:03] <_6StringKng_> I know
[11:03] <_6StringKng_> just havent found one I liek yet
[11:04] <tntCry> to make it customized a weird cool way example when clicking at it we see blood vesels and vains and a heart under the edge pumping
[11:04] <tntCry> _6StringKng_,
[11:04] <tntCry> when clickign on applications or places or system
[11:05] <_6StringKng_> uh, I dunno
[11:05] <bullgard4> What does '<process name> (stop) waiting' mean in the initctl output?
[11:05] <ikonia> !away >YanchoAWY
[11:05] <tntCry> believe me if gnome can do that ,.. i rate it for the best and quit reading about mac and windows
[11:05] <tntCry> but you get what i meant _6StringKng_
[11:05] <rambo3> bullgard4, fork
[11:05] <_6StringKng_> I believe so
[11:06] <bullgard4> rambo3: Can you elaborate.
[11:06] <tntCry> when click on Applications the color is diffrent blody from the side veins fall off a heart from the buttom in a 3d Look pumping waiting for you to finish what your theyr for
[11:06] <overlord> How do i change the defaukt
[11:06] <tntCry> _6StringKng_,
[11:06] <Lambros> network issue?
[11:06] <ikonia> overlord: default what ?
[11:06] <overlord> how do i change the default site in apache2
[11:06] <rambo3> bullgard4, no . you would need to learn how process functions. fork () , stop wait
[11:06] <ikonia> overlord: in what way, edit the content or change the location
[11:07] <stefano> how can i set up an ssh/sftp login that is restriced to only one directory and its subdirectories?
[11:07] <ikonia> stefano: chroot that users
[11:07] <overlord> ikonia: content of what? I've installed phpbb2, and i have got it to work. But it isn't the site that gets loaded when I open http://localhost/
[11:07] <jimjam> Are there any special User IDs?
[11:07] <jimjam> Do they start at 1000 arbitrarily?
[11:07] <stefano> ikonia, sorry i'm somewhat of a newbie, could you explain that further?
[11:08] <ikonia> overlord, ok so you want to change the directory of where the default site is looking ?
[11:08] <Varka> stefano, just create a normal useraccount and give it the rights for the desired folder only
[11:08] <ikonia> stefano have a read up on chroot, but basiclly its a "virtual" root file system in a directory that the user can't get out of
[11:08] <Extravert> hey guys
[11:08] <overlord> ikonia: yes..in a way. Basically I want to open /var/www/phpbb2/index.php
[11:09] <tntCry> ikonia, is theyr any way to change the kickerlook , i dont mean the tag . but when clicking forexample on Application or places or System .. the color theyr the background picture or have effects with it?
[11:09] <sumonoo> hello, does anybody knows how to turn the monitor on when logged through ssh, it goes automatically off after X minutes
[11:09] <Ein_> now I have the .RPM File type
[11:09] <stefano> thank you both, i'll look up chroot in the wiki
[11:09] <ikonia> stefano: eg: /usr/local/mydir chrooted would make / for the user bob point to /usr/local/mydir
[11:09] <Extravert> if you banned from a channel and you try to connect.  Does your nickname show?
[11:09] <Ein_> I can't extract it
[11:09] <ikonia> stefano: so they could never get out of / which is actually /usr/loca/lmydir
[11:09] <stefano> great :D exactly what i wanted
[11:09] <ikonia> overlord: httpd.conf change the htdocs variable
[11:09] <overlord> hmm
[11:09] <ikonia> Extravert: no
[11:09] <ikonia> Extravert: it stops you joining
[11:10] <_6StringKng_> heres my desktop btw tntCry
[11:10] <_6StringKng_> http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8144/mydesktopbm6.jpg
[11:10] <ikonia> Ein_: its not wise to attempt to use the contents of an rpm on a debian system
[11:10] <Extravert> ikonia: thanks they banned the wrong person =P
[11:10] <tntCry> cool
[11:11] <overlord> ikonia: my httpd.conf is empty
[11:11] <ikonia> Ein_: a debian based system I should say
[11:11] <ikonia> overlord: as I recall its symlinks that points to the default site
[11:11] <tntCry> _6StringKng_, i think you can satisfy the look more aigh>?
[11:11] <sumonoo> when logged through ssh, how can i wake up monitor?
[11:11] <Ein_> but I don't debian sys
[11:11] <_6StringKng_> I'm trying
[11:12] <ikonia> Ein_ pardon ?
[11:12] <tntCry> _6StringKng_, why are you using Konversation but not Xchat?
[11:12] <ikonia> sumonoo can't really, ssh is not on /dev/console
[11:12] <ikonia> sumonoo: so events won't wake it
[11:12] <_6StringKng_> because I like Konversation more than Xchat
[11:12] <tntCry> hmm
[11:12] <Ein_> I mean... do I need debian OS to open it?
[11:13] <ikonia> Ein_: no, rpm is meant for redhat based systems
[11:13] <tntCry> ya what is rpm ikonia i have been wondering i have been downloading alot of them for i dont knwo what reason but non could be installed so i deleted all of it
[11:13] <shameless_> can anyone help me with setting up my bluetooth? i know i've got it on here, but for some reason i can't find the device itself
[11:14] <IanLiu88> !fixgrub
[11:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:14] <ikonia> tntCry rpm is "redhat package manager" packages, so they are software packages in the same way a .deb is a software package, but these are aimed at redhat systems
[11:14] <madera> Hello
[11:14] <ikonia> madera: hello
[11:14] <tntCry> damn theyr lucky
[11:14] <ikonia> tntCry:  ?
[11:14] <madera> I have a NTFS writable disk I want to check for errors... what utility or procedure should I use/do ?
[11:15] <ikonia> madera there isn't really a tool in linux as its a file system native to windows
[11:15] <tntCry> can rpm  be installed in ubuntu ikonia ?
[11:15] <madera> ok, I'll stick it into windows then
[11:15] <madera> thanks
[11:15] <ikonia> tntCry: it /can/ but it is VERY unwise
[11:16] <tntCry> i knew the answer will be a linux answer lo
[11:16] <cexx> why is it unwise, ikonia
[11:16] <ikonia> cexx: it is built against/for a different base system in a package format thats not native
[11:17] <cexx> understood.
[11:17] <ikonia> tntCry a linux answer ?
[11:17] <madera> ikonia: a bad quality answer
[11:17] <ikonia> madera: a bad quality answer ?
[11:17] <madera> ikonia: yeah, a linux answer
[11:17] <ikonia> madera: explain please.
[11:17] <madera> ikonia: hum, I'm afraid there is nothing to explain
[11:18] <ikonia> madera: I'm not sure what your saying by a bad quality answer ?
[11:18] <madera> ikonia: read more, it will sharpen you up! =o)
[11:18] <madera>  ikonia: I didn't say anything about an answer
[11:18] <ikonia> madera: I'm sharp enough thank you, I'm asking you to clarify your statment
[11:18] <ndlovu> how do you remove a symbolic link? Just 'rm <symlink>'? Or will that remove the target?
[11:18] <madera> ikonia: it's clear enough
[11:18] <ikonia> madera:  madera> ikonia: a bad quality answer
[11:18] <ikonia> madera: its not clear enough, define a bad quality answer, in terms of content or resolution ?
[11:19] <ikonia> ndlovu: correct, just rm it
[11:19] <tntCry> 1 day i hope ubuntu be something good , means if you have a tablet laptop the touch screen works without appointing the driver for the hardware and the bindings .. ect.. , * and to have a great package installer to install the .tar .zip files wisely like themes and kickers and iconsin a simple double click method * and have softwares that are .bin installed double click * and hopefully have msoofice 2007 work with wine , * and wine becomes more easier ..
[11:19] <tntCry> * and have finger print detections .. pen callibration perfecterizing .. * and smart speech detection and smart pen undersatnding .. and smart help assistant .. and funky themes in the theme list to choose once ubuntu is firstly installed.
[11:19] <madera> ikonia: and you think you're sharp
[11:19] <madera> bye bye
[11:19] <ndlovu> ikonia, tks
[11:20] <stefano> ikonia, i set up the chroot and it works, but i can't log in via ssh, because the chroot user just doesnt have it, how can i install it in the chroot?
[11:20] <shameless_> wait, tablet? i need some help with mine, you have any ideas?
[11:20] <tntCry> then ubuntu will be as perfect as Vista support
[11:20] <ikonia> stefano you need to install chroot onto the system
[11:20] <stefano> how do you mean, install? like a package?
[11:21] <ikonia> stefano correct
[11:21] <tntCry> shameless_, forget about it , i needed help of to work the touchscreen for 4months you cant ,. if you will you will need calibrations . then need scripts for ratations then you will get the headache trying to start doing all that
[11:21] <tntCry> stefano, appoint the mouse double click
[11:21] <shameless_> damn, guess i'll have to dual boot then
[11:21] <shameless_> cause i want linux, but i kinda need my tablet
[11:22] <stefano> ikonia, what's the package called? dchroot, dchroot-dsa or both?
[11:23] <ody> does ubuntu have a special tool to configure grub? Because it always ovewrites my menu.lst configuration everytime it installs a new kernel.
[11:24] <FallenHitokiri> ody: startupmanager
[11:24] <ody> thanks
[11:24] <ikonia> apologies I was on the phone
[11:24] <ikonia> stefano: did your question get an answer ?
[11:25] <stefano> ikonia, well kind of, but my chrooted user still can't log on
[11:25] <stefano> "Cannot execute /usr/local/sbin/chrlogin: No such file or directory"
[11:25] <FallenHitokiri> even if I didn't read the whole discussion - touchscreens works fine
[11:25] <ikonia> stefano: what command are you using to chroot him in ?
[11:25] <vermi> I was here earlier with a question about the resolution/refresh rate being out of my monitor's range during boot up, and someone recommended using usplash. Well, the out of rang problem was solved, but is there any way to make usplash more verbose?
[11:26] <stefano> i use a big fancy perlscript i found in the german ubuntu wiki
[11:26] <FallenHitokiri> vermi: yes grub or startupmanager
[11:26] <stefano> and i dont understand much of it
[11:26] <stefano> tbh
[11:26] <ikonia> vermi: why would using usplash fix your resoution
[11:26] <ikonia> stefano: ok - first thing to do is look in /usr/local/sbin/chrlogin - I don't think you'll find it there
[11:26] <ndlovu> hmm... I accidentally rm'd '/usr/lib/libxml.so.1' while uninstalling a canon cups printer - any idea what the file would be used for?
[11:26] <vermi> FallenHitokiri: just removing "quiet" should work, right?
[11:27] <stefano> ikonia, thats right
[11:27] <stefano> nothing in there
[11:27] <ikonia> ndlovu its an xml library thats pretty core
[11:27] <shameless_> tntCry: i've heard things about fingerprint scanners working, you worked with those any?
[11:27] <ikonia> stefano: the fact that its in /usr/local/sbin suggests its a custom build
[11:27] <AlexStacey> hi, i'm not sure which chanel to  ask this in but: the wireless network security settings have just been chnged in my house and i've got no idea how to change the configuration of my wireless card on my linux machine. can anyone point me in the right direction? cheers =]
[11:27] <vermi> and ikonia, i have no idea what was initially happening during system boot, but i don't have the issue using usplash
[11:28] <tntCry> shameless_, lets wait for hardy ubuntu 8 and wish all my wishes to work :)
[11:28] <stefano> ikonia, great i always wondered what the difference between sbin and bin was. :-) so, i suppose i could just copy the file from wherever it is to that directory, right?
[11:28] <ikonia> vermi thats very odd, I don't understand why changing to usplash would change the monitor resolution / refresh rate
[11:28] <ikonia> stefano: I would advise against that, but yes you could
[11:28] <tntCry> believe me after that ubuntu is another system in the world for the people it will be a competition for ubuntu against mac and windows :) i believe LINUX if they take this step they will win.
[11:28] <tntCry> brb guys .....
[11:28] <FallenHitokiri> vermi: yes
[11:28] <stefano> ikonia, why?
[11:28] <ndlovu> ikonia: know of any way to get it back?
[11:28] <shameless_> tntCry: i guess i'll just shrink my vista partition to a few gigs and primary boot to gutsy
[11:29] <vermi> Thanks, FallenHitokiri. i thought as much, but i wanted to make sure.
[11:29] <ikonia> stefano: 3 reasons. 1.) If that guide is pointing you at stuff that is not there - it is a bad guide that shouldn't be followed 2.) if your missing stuff, you may not be following the guide correctly, therefore its a bad guide 3.) using custom built package will break you package manager, moving them around may break application linking.
[11:29] <ikonia> ndlovu: you'll need to re-install the package it came in
[11:29] <FallenHitokiri> ikonia: maybe vga=$foo was not present in menu.lst before using usplash
[11:30] <ikonia> FallenHitokiri: thats possible, but that isn't actually anything to do with usplash.
[11:30] <stefano> ikonia, okay i will just read the big howto i have on that instead of using the script that. thanks for your time, i think i'll get it done :)
[11:30] <vermi> FallenHitokiri: you may be right; though I never actually looked at menu.lst to see before installin usplash; in fact, nobody even suggested that as an option
[11:30] <FallenHitokiri> ikonia: it does - if you install usplash vga= is set - if you don't know vga= using usplash solves this ;)
[11:31] <ikonia> FallenHitokiri: I see what you where saying, but its not actually anything to do with the usplash software, but what you are suggesting makes sense. I wonder if it was a server install initially
[11:32] <vermi> Anyway, thanks for the advice ikonia and FallenHitokiri. have a good day =)
[11:32] <FallenHitokiri> vermi: look at this guide for framebufer resolutions: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Grub
[11:32] <FallenHitokiri> ikonia: isn't vga= set in a server installation?
[11:33] <ikonia> FallenHitokiri: I don't know from memory, but I can imagine it not
[11:33] <zombie_monkey> from time to time my apt-get update starts looking for a package type called "web" and I need to remove it manually from sources.lst
[11:33] <zombie_monkey> .list?
[11:33] <zombie_monkey> what's wgat
[11:33] <zombie_monkey> what's wgatwhat's that about?
[11:33] <bullgard4> What does '<process name> (stop) waiting' mean in the initctl output?
[11:34] <ikonia> bullgard4: it means that process is in a stopped state
[11:35] <bullgard4> ikonia: Why is this fact not expressed much simpler with '<process name> stopped'?
[11:36] <ikonia> bullgard4: its just 3 letters on the end, its expressed clearly enough
[11:36] <_blitz_> I have so many debis in a folder.there are packages and its dependancies.I was wondering whether i could change it to a repo temporarily.tired of double clicking
[11:36] <bullgard4> ikonia: Thank you for commenting.
[11:37] <ikonia> _blitz_: you can make your own repo, although its a reasonable ammount of work
[11:37] <zombie_monkey> for example "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted web"
[11:37] <zombie_monkey> this "web" entry appears from time to time, and I can't figure out why.
[11:38] <ikonia> zombie_monkey: its a repo by the looks of it, although one I'm not aware of
[11:38] <_blitz_> ikonia then do i have to upload the files
[11:38] <zombie_monkey> and it leads for example to "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)"
[11:38] <ikonia> _blitz_: upload the files ? where, you can't if you've not got a repo
[11:38] <larson9999> well the story is that he didn't win.  it's not about him.  about the system.
[11:38] <mack_sim> so... upgrading to 7.10 crashes w/ a message about not being able to find a certain repository
[11:38] <mack_sim> what should I do?
[11:39] <zombie_monkey> ikonia: what could be puttign it there?
[11:39] <ikonia> mack_sim: look into the repo it can't find
[11:39] <ikonia> zombie_monkey: remove the "web" bit of the end of the line
[11:39] <selinuxium_> hi all, can anyone give me a hand getting my bluetooth pcmcia card wroking
[11:39] <mack_sim> ikonia: look and see what?
[11:39] <gvsa123> which application can i use to remove the audio from videos?
[11:40] <ikonia> mack_sim: at the repo it can't find
[11:40] <_blitz_> ikonia  what i need is that i have all the files in a folder and i need to install them at one go
[11:40] <mack_sim> ikonia: yes, look at it and see what exactly about it
[11:40] <mack_sim> ?
[11:40] <ikonia> mack_sim: why it can't be found
[11:40] <siccness> hey
[11:40] <mack_sim> how should <i know that?
[11:41] <siccness> im getting a: Floating point exception (core dumped) when trying to execute LyX
[11:41] <zombie_monkey> ikonia: I keep doing that and it keeps reappearing
[11:41] <ikonia> zombie_monkey: apt-get update
[11:41] <kakoonia> hey
[11:41] <zombie_monkey> yes, when I type "sudo apt-get update" it looks for that and it can't find it
[11:41] <mack_sim> ikonia: and what good does it do me?
[11:41] <_blitz_> ikonia :  what i need is that i have all the files in a folder and i need to install them at one go
[11:42] <mack_sim> to be more precise, what can I do to upgrade in spite of the repo being unavailable?
[11:42] <zombie_monkey> ikonia: the question is what script keeps putting that "web" entry in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:42] <ikonia> mack_sim: you can fix the upgrade being a problem
[11:42] <ikonia> zombie_monkey: thats a good question
[11:42] <mack_sim> ikonia: how?
[11:42] <ankka> hello, I started installing ubuntu-desktop, but for some reason it doesn't want to download gimp-data but stops there and doesn't go any further
[11:42] <ikonia> mack_sim: well, try to resolve it via dns, try to connect to it, etc
[11:42] <ndlovu> any idea how to manually change the URI of a printer? I'm not getting usb as an option from install or modify
[11:42] <kakoonia> i installed the latest Alsa-drivers and suddenly i cant hear any sound.. in Alsa-mixer its unmuted and on max volume. what could be the reason?
[11:43] <ikonia> kakoonia: how did you update alsa
[11:44] <kakoonia> ikonia: i downloaded alsa-drivers from alsa-project 1.0.15, configure | make | make install
[11:44] <gvsa123> hey... is there an application in the repos that can remove audio from a video?
[11:44] <mack_sim> ndlovu: re-state your issue
[11:44] <mack_sim> use more words
[11:44] <ikonia> kakoonia: thats not the best call, as now your package manager will be out of sync
[11:44] <ikonia> gvsa123: any of the dvd rippers can strip the audio into a seperate file
[11:45] <ndlovu> lsusb shows 'Bus 005 Device 004: ID 03f0:2c17 Hewlett-Packard' but cups says 'open device failed; will retry in 30 seconds...'
[11:45] <gvsa123> ikonia: it's a home made video though
[11:45] <kakoonia> ikonia : because i installed package thats out of the available package list?
[11:45] <ndlovu> according to cups, the uri is 'hp:/no_device_found'
[11:46] <mack_sim> ndlovu: that's a way fo saying "there ain't no printer anywhere in sight"
[11:47] <ndlovu> mack_sim, but autodetect shows HP LaserJet 1022, so it should be able to find it?
[11:47] <ankka> the installation just stalls at gimp-data
[11:47] <mack_sim> ndlovu: whose autodetect?
[11:48] <kakoonia> ikonia : because i installed package thats out of the available package list? and what should i do to fix it? should i make uninstall?
[11:48] <ndlovu> mack_sim, System > Administration > Printing in ubuntu
[11:49] <mack_sim> ah
[11:49] <MepT_Bblu> эй
[11:49] <mack_sim> so you have a usb printer?
[11:50] <ndlovu> mack_sim, yes. but looking at it again, it's not shown anymore... weird. lsusb also comes up empty now even though it's plugged in.
[11:50] <kst-> !window-manager
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about window-manager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <mack_sim> aha
[11:50] <kakoonia> !sound
[11:50] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:50] <mack_sim> ndlovu: do you have hplip installed?
[11:50] <mack_sim> (the hp printer drivers)
[11:50] <ndlovu> yup
[11:51] <kst-> how do I replace metacity with xfwm4 on gnome gutsy? when i use gconf-editor to set it in desktop > gnome > apps > window-manager it is reset to metacity after relogin..
[11:51] <ndlovu> mack_sim, I got it to print a test page earlier, but after checking the settings again it seemed to lose the connection somehow
[11:51] <mack_sim> you may have switche from raw to hp as a print proto
[11:52] <mack_sim> and the hp drivers aren't very smart
[11:52] <ndlovu> mack_sim, how would you do that?
[11:52] <mack_sim> nevermind
[11:52] <mack_sim> unplug the printer
[11:52] <mack_sim> plug it back in
[11:52] <mack_sim> check with dmesg to see if the system sees it
[11:52] <GniLoj> .G@'
[11:52] <MepT_Bblu> fu** inet
[11:52] <mack_sim> then go to the nice clicky and add new printer
[11:53] <GniLoj> greetings!
[11:53] <Xaraxoto> Йопт
[11:53] <GniLoj> aga
[11:53] <MepT_Bblu> pidarasy
[11:53] <GniLoj> fu. .... innet
[11:53] <BlackDiamonds> !MP3
[11:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:54] <Xaraxoto> Гнилой
[11:54] <GniLoj> казлы мля
[11:54] <ndlovu> mack_sim, tks, that seemed to do the trick somehow
[11:54] <dgjones> !english | GniLoj
[11:54] <ubotu> GniLoj: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:54] <GniLoj> вы шо уроды-
[11:54] <MepT_Bblu> give us OP status!
[11:55] <GniLoj> we want OP!'
[11:55] <GniLoj> know!
[11:55] <MepT_Bblu> op!
[11:55] <mack_sim> at some point, you will have a drop-down box with drivers to choose from
[11:55] <mack_sim> pick postscript for now
[11:55] <mack_sim> ah nvm
[11:56] <GniLoj> shurt up all!
[11:56] <MepT_Bblu> give op to my fat ass!
[11:56] <Gimpa> hey... im looking for a script that will restart firefox in a click... like bash script that will close all firefox windows and re run firefox... anyone can help?
[11:56] <mack_sim> hmm
[11:56] <GniLoj> we need OP!
[11:56] <cherva> Is there a way to change the font color of the menus (application,places,system)  and minimized windows ? In the Theme -> customize -> colors i change the text color in the windows too :(
[11:56] <Gimpa> hey... im looking for a script that will restart firefox in a click... like bash script that will close all firefox windows and re run firefox... anyone can help?
[11:56] <mack_sim> Gimpa: what do you need it for?
[11:57] <siccness> mack_sim: my guess is to kill firefox
[11:57] <Gimpa> yeah
[11:57] <Hobbsee> GniLoj: ?
[11:57] <Gimpa> restart it
[11:57] <mack_sim> siccness: my question was "why not kill it properly?"
[11:58] <siccness> Right, that came out a little different to what you actually asked.
[11:58] <Gimpa> cause i want to restart it sometimes cause its clears cookies and stuff
[11:58] <Gimpa> i want to make it on cron
[11:58] <Gimpa> daily at midnight restart
[11:59] <mack_sim> why would you want such a thing?
[11:59] <punzada> does anyone have the problem with firefox and xmms not liking to share the sound card in gutsy? :|
[11:59] <mack_sim> anyway, it's easy
[11:59] <mack_sim> punzada: you have trouble with the sound server
[11:59] <siccness> im with you now mack_sim, this sounds like an awfully stupid script :|
[11:59] <Gimpa> mack.. please help....
[12:00] <Gimpa> no its not i have pepole here that uses that computer
[12:00] <punzada> it's only those two apps, they seem to like to invalidate the other
[12:00] <Gimpa> and mess it up
[12:00] <punzada> make the other not realize the sound device is there
[12:00] <mack_sim> punzada: one of them is trying to access the soundcard directly
[12:01] <mack_sim> configure them to use arts, or whatever other sound server you're using
[12:01] <mack_sim> Gimpa: mess it up how?
[12:01] <punzada> lol ty
[12:01] <punzada> two seconds in the config
[12:01] <mack_sim> maybe you need to restrict their rights
[12:01] <bsh> hi
[12:01] <punzada> xmms was using oss instead of alsa
[12:01] <punzada> ;P
[12:01]  * punzada is slow
[12:01] <punzada> lol
[12:01] <mack_sim> :)
[12:02] <mack_sim> no you're not
[12:02] <mack_sim> sound system in linux is arcane
[12:02] <punzada> true
[12:02] <bsh> i have a problem. just reinstalled my server and since then there is this strange issue: when managing users and groups with the gui app, whenever i open properties of a group then close, the group list is multiplied
[12:02] <mack_sim> I have a problem too
[12:03] <mack_sim> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[12:03] <mack_sim> what can I do?
[12:03] <mack_sim> bsh: stop using the friggin' gui app
[12:03] <bsh> so after 4 changes i have 4-5 instances of each group. with the same ID however
[12:03] <mack_sim> or fix it
[12:03] <bsh> when editing the group file, it's ok
[12:03] <mack_sim> or complain to the devs, then stop using it
[12:04] <mack_sim> it's a piece of crap anyway. you're better served with just a text editor anyway
[12:04] <ikonia> mack_sim: do a wget on the file in the archive see if you can actually get it
[12:04] <mack_sim> gahh
[12:04] <siccness> anyone else here use LyX?
[12:05] <mack_sim> ikonia: works like a charm
[12:05] <mack_sim> siccness: <i do, rarely
[12:05] <siccness> mack_sim: have you got it installed on gusty?
[12:05] <mack_sim> siccness: no, gentoo
[12:05] <ikonia> mack_sim: ok, so the file is there and accessable, thats a good start
[12:06] <siccness> ah ok
[12:06] <mack_sim> why, siccness ?
[12:06] <siccness> getting core dump
[12:06] <siccness> wont load
[12:06] <siccness> gdb shows around QT libs
[12:06] <mack_sim> siccness: bad package
[12:07] <mack_sim> try getting it from upstream (devs)
[12:07] <mack_sim> prolly compiled against wrong version of qt libs
[12:07] <siccness> no bugs posted
[12:07] <mack_sim> heh
[12:07] <siccness> mack_sim: hmm
[12:07] <b4d> Hi, is there any way to change background in boot framebuffer?
[12:07] <mack_sim> lyx ain't exactly popular
[12:07] <ikonia> b4d: yes, its a reasonable ammount of work though
[12:08] <siccness> mack_sim: i dont see why not though
[12:08] <mack_sim> plus the kind of people using it are the bug-fixing, not the bug-posting type. as a rule
[12:08] <siccness> lol
[12:08] <b4d> ikonia: I would like to try but don't know where to look for tutorial or howto...
[12:08] <mack_sim> ikonia: ok, now what?
[12:08] <ikonia> b4d: look into usplash
[12:08] <b4d> ikonia: ty
[12:08] <ikonia> mack_sim: ok, I'd try to get it a few times, make sure say 9/10 you can get it, incase the server has an intermitant problem
[12:09] <mack_sim> and then?
[12:09] <ikonia> mack_sim: try unzipped in it, make sure the package is in the correct format
[12:09] <mack_sim> can't I just stick it somewhere where the god damn package manager will see it?
[12:09] <ikonia> mack_sim: clam down please.
[12:09] <ikonia> clam even
[12:09] <ikonia> calm
[12:09] <ikonia> silly fingers
[12:10] <mack_sim> unexpected EOF
[12:10] <ikonia> mack_sim: ahh so the package looks like it has a problem on uncompression
[12:10] <mack_sim> file's borken
[12:10] <mack_sim> ya
[12:10] <ikonia> mack_sim: there we go, just report it to the mirror maintainer
[12:10] <siccness> mack_sim: lyx worked for a friend
[12:10] <mack_sim> what mirror? it's the official US server
[12:10] <b4d> ikonia: nope, that's not what i'm looking for, I would like to change the background of text boot, like arch linux has.
[12:11] <h1st0> emerald-themes is another broken package
[12:11] <ikonia> mack_sim: ok, the server maintainer
[12:11] <mack_sim> will do
[12:11] <ikonia> b4d: as I recall thats a kernal patch
[12:11] <ikonia> b4d: but don't quite me on that
[12:11] <mack_sim> now, how do I fix my problem?
[12:11] <ikonia> mack_sim: point at another mirror ?
[12:11] <b4d> ikonia: okay, thanks for your help
[12:11] <mack_sim> b4d: there's documentation in the kernel about that
[12:11] <mack_sim> you need a working fbcon to do it
[12:12] <ikonia> mack_sim: is it the bootsplash patch (from memory)
[12:12] <mack_sim> ikonia: nope
[12:12] <ikonia> mack_sim: which patch is it ?
[12:13] <mack_sim> it's got to do with the fbcon
[12:13] <ikonia> mack_sim: no, but there is a kernel patch required for it
[12:13] <mack_sim> you can set a console background to whatever you like
[12:13] <ikonia> I'm querying the name of the patch
[12:13] <mack_sim> ah
[12:13] <zhanx> ok this might be the ong channel but hopefully someone can point me to the right now.. apple ipod itouch. does it work under ubuntu. before i dropp 300 on it
[12:13] <mack_sim> hold on
[12:13] <ikonia> I thought it was called from memory the bootsplash patch
[12:13] <ikonia> zhanx: no more/less than the other ipods
[12:14] <gideon> hello
[12:15] <zhanx> ikonia,  ie. the database is still broke so you cant update, or did someone find a fix for that
[12:15] <ikonia> zhanx: database ?
[12:15] <h1st0> mack_sim: fbcon is blacklisted I believe with gutsy for some wierd reason.
[12:15] <mack_sim> ikonia: usplash
[12:15] <h1st0> mack_sim: what was your problem?
[12:15] <ikonia> mack_sim: really, I didn't think usplash contained that code. Fair enough
[12:15] <mack_sim> h1st0: incompatible with nvidia drivers
[12:16] <mack_sim> it isn't compatible with just about any AGP-based drivers, actually
[12:16] <h1st0> mack_sim: what type of video card do you have?
[12:16] <mack_sim> most cards don't handle hot-switching from framebuffer too well
[12:17] <mack_sim> h1st0: GeForce 5800, I think
[12:17] <h1st0> mack_sim: they do if the proper module is loaded.
[12:17] <h1st0> mack_sim: I missed your problem if you look when I joined what is going on exactly?
[12:17] <mack_sim> not a problem for me :)
[12:18] <mack_sim> someone was asking about usplash
[12:18] <mack_sim> afaik, you need a framebuffer console for usplash
[12:19] <h1st0> mack_sim: I was just saying gutsy has some problems with framebuffer.  All the specific video card fb's are blacklisted and I even believe fbcon is blacklisted.
[12:19] <mack_sim> but no, my problem is much simpler: the official server is serving up a broken packages list
[12:19] <mack_sim> yes, that is correct
[12:19] <mack_sim> fbcon is going the way of the dodo, imnsho
[12:19] <mack_sim> and it's a shame
[12:19] <h1st0> mack_sim: what are you trying to install I just dist-upgraded with out problems
[12:20] <mack_sim> I'm trying to upgrade to 7.10
[12:20] <h1st0> Ahh from what version?
[12:20] <mack_sim> 7.04
[12:20] <wucheng> when my ubuntu boot,my second network adapter named sit0 can not be brought up, anyone can help me ?
[12:21] <h1st0> Should be working.  What package are you having issues with?
[12:21] <mack_sim> the package list :)
[12:21] <h1st0> wucheng: what kind of card is it?
[12:21] <h1st0> mack_sim: there isn't a problem right now with the package lists.
[12:21] <mack_sim> I can fetch it, but gunzip spits it out... unexpeted EOF
[12:21] <wucheng> i do not know , i do not know why it is named sit0 in system
[12:21] <Flynsarmy> Has anyone had an issue with ubuntu freezing after 5-10 mins of using Cisco VPN client?
[12:22] <Flynsarmy> it just completley freezes and the caps and scroll lock buttons start blinking
[12:22] <h1st0> mack_sim: I'm able to fetch them fine right now.
[12:23] <mack_sim> ya me too
[12:23] <h1st0> wucheng: lspci to see what the net adapters are.
[12:23] <mack_sim> try unzipping them
[12:23] <h1st0> mack_sim: it does unzip them.
[12:23] <mack_sim> not for me
[12:23] <mack_sim> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[12:23] <mack_sim> this one, to be exact
[12:23] <h1st0> mack_sim: Reading package lists... Done
[12:24] <h1st0> Anyone know how to use the scroll back in screen?
[12:24] <rarito> hi
[12:25] <mack_sim> h1st0: page up
[12:25] <kakoonia> yo.. did someone ever encounter a problem that you cant hear sound from the laptop speakers but when you plugin the sound blasters you can hear from both?
[12:26] <mack_sim> sound blasters?
[12:26] <ikonia> you beat me to it
[12:26] <kakoonia> when my sound speakers
[12:26] <jrib> h1st0: shift-page up?
[12:26] <mack_sim> what in the name of <moby is a soundblaster?
[12:26] <mack_sim> ikonia: :)
[12:26] <kakoonia> hehehe
[12:26] <kakoonia> what, no one is fromiliar with sound-blaster?
[12:27] <kakoonia> anyways i generally i ment sound-speakers
[12:27] <ikonia> kakoonia: on planet earth we call them "speakers"
[12:27] <Pici> ikonia: :D
[12:27] <rarito> i had installed ubuntu's distribution and then i installed fedora's distribution
[12:27] <ikonia> rarito: ok, so your currently running fedora
[12:27] <rarito> fedora used /boot partition of ubuntu
[12:28] <rarito> and now i want recover ubuntu
[12:28] <aladinsane> anybody else here running a ATI Radeao 7200? It doesnt seem like we have such a good choice regarding drivers in Ubuntu. Mine is working pretty good with the Mach 8 drivers Ubuntu chosed for me but 3D is out of the question. Anybody know a better solution?
[12:28] <kakoonia> im from the same planet last time i checked.. you got two or 10 eyes? cause i got 10
[12:28] <ikonia> rarito: then you must re-install ubuntu
[12:28] <jrib> h1st0: oh, I probably did something to make it work like that, never mind
[12:28] <kakoonia> well??!?!
[12:28] <mack_sim> well what?
[12:29] <kakoonia> yo.. did someone ever encounter a problem that you cant hear sound from the laptop speakers but when you plugin the speakers you can hear from both?
[12:29] <ikonia> kakoonia: yes, some hardware does do that and you have to mute teh internal speakers
[12:29] <ikonia> kakoonia: eg: plug headphones into a PC and it still comes out of the speakers
[12:29] <gordonjcp> kakoonia: yeah, my girlfriend's laptop does that
[12:29] <kakoonia> bahh.. the prob is i dont want to plugin anything to hear..
[12:30] <Rastafar> Õàé âñåì!
[12:30] <ikonia> kakoonia: disable the speakers then
[12:30] <ikonia> kakoonia: in alsa mixer
[12:30] <wucheng> h1st0,  which kind of net adapter would be recognized be sit? i remove it from the server and can not find any information except "Pulse h1012"
[12:30] <stefano> i keep getting this error: "/lib/libpthread.so.0: invalid ELF header" it is in a chroot. can anybody help?
[12:30] <Hobbsee> Rastafar: english only please
[12:30] <gordonjcp> kakoonia: wait, what?
[12:30] <ikonia> stefano what command ar eyou doing to get that error
[12:30] <stefano> ikonia, ls
[12:31] <gordonjcp> kakoonia: *nothing* is working with no plug in, but both the laptop and external speakers work when you plug the headphones in?
[12:31] <mack_sim> stefano: it's a broken lib
[12:31] <ikonia> stefano: what have you done ?
[12:31] <ikonia> stefano: you've changed your threading libary somehow, that will bork you whols system
[12:31] <gordonjcp> kakoonia: or, to put it another way, you have to plug headphones in to hear the laptop speakers?
[12:31] <ikonia> whole
[12:31] <mack_sim> chroots are so damn fragile
[12:31] <kakoonia> ok ok ok o ko --> when no speakers are connected to my laptop.. no sound output! when i plugin in external speakers i can hear from both! i dont want to plugin anything.. means i cant hear?
[12:31] <lucian> gordonjcp, his speakers aren't working until he plugs in headphones. in which case not only do his speakers work, his headphones work as well
[12:31] <gordonjcp> lucian: bit strange that
[12:31] <kakoonia> gordonjcp : yup
[12:31] <Rastafar> âûû
[12:32] <stefano> i was copying libs, a whole bunch because ls was giving me error that it couldnt find them, so i copied them, and it worked (meaning the lib in the error message changed to another one that it couldnt find) until this one
[12:32] <ikonia> stefano: re-install your system, you've just broke it
[12:32] <kakoonia> maybe its a hardware problem..
[12:32] <kakoonia> i dunno
[12:32] <ikonia> stefano: that guide you are following is either rubbish, or your not following it corectly
[12:32] <stefano> ikonia, it is just the chroot, everything else worked fine
[12:32] <mack_sim> stefano: that particular lib is broken
[12:32] <Pici> !ru | Rastafar
[12:32] <ubotu> Rastafar: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[12:32] <ikonia> stefano: oooh this is just in the chroot
[12:33] <mack_sim> a bad copy, prolly
[12:33] <mack_sim> get a new one
[12:33] <stefano> as i said i was copying a whole lot of libs from my /lib and /usr/lib to the chroots respective directories
[12:33] <mack_sim> yes yes yes
[12:34] <mack_sim> so what program says this lib is broken?
[12:34] <stefano> mack_sim, ls
[12:34] <ikonia> mack_sim: pretty much any program as its the threading library
[12:34] <h1st0> mack_sim: I'm not downloading from that repo.  Are you sure it exists?
[12:34] <stefano> i should now point out that i'm doing all this on a server which is not important for my productivity :-)
[12:35] <stefano> so that i dont appear completely stupid
[12:36] <aladinsane> Can it hurt my system if i have repositories from Feisty checked in my third-party software list, Im running Gutsy?
[12:37] <stefano> aladinsane, you could
[12:37] <h1st0> aladinsane: yes
[12:37] <ikonia> aladinsane: yes
[12:38] <stefano> ikonia, since i only want to creat this chroot for sftp access, isnt there a better way to do this?
[12:38] <komodo> I need to install support for the wireless card on a C2D macbook with a broken Ethernet connection
[12:38] <komodo> how would I go about that?
[12:38] <kakoonia> well, is there any suggestion about the sound problem? cause i looked for a way to solve it, but nothing came up.
[12:38] <aladinsane> Ok, its the medibuntu ones, maybe i could just change them from http://packages.medibuntu.org/ Feisty
[12:38] <aladinsane> to
[12:38] <aladinsane> http://packages.medibuntu.org/ Gutsy
[12:38] <aladinsane> Would that work?
[12:39] <h1st0> komodo: you could download the debs you need.
[12:39] <ikonia> stefano if it's just sftp just setup directory permissions correctly
[12:39] <IdleOne> aladinsane: yes
[12:39] <h1st0> !offline > komodo, komodo Read the private message from ubotu.
[12:39] <stefano> komodo, take a look at the ubuntuusers wiki for instructions, download everything you might need to download and burn it to a cd, or put it on a usb-stick, and go for it
[12:39] <amadeux> If some program is using a lot of CPU time, I can run top to see which one. But what if a program is accessing my hard drive a lot? That is happening right now, and I don't know which program. How can I find out?
[12:39] <h1st0> komodo: just see the directions from ubotu
[12:40] <stefano> ikonia, okay i will take a look a t the wiki, right after i removed the chroot stuff :-)
[12:40] <komodo> thanks
[12:41] <mack_sim> amadeux: there's ionice, ioset and...
[12:41] <stefano> komodo, i suppose you have a second computer that you can use troughout the process?
[12:41] <mack_sim> I dunno whassiscalled
[12:41] <komodo> stefano: no, I do not
[12:41] <komodo> stefano: unless you count the seperate Leopard partition already in place
[12:41] <mack_sim> there are three programs provided in a single package that deal with I/O priorities
[12:41] <stefano> komodo, oh than be sure not to forget anything, any you also better print out the howto youre using
[12:42] <h1st0> komodo: yeah that will work for the offline directions
[12:42] <h1st0> !offline > stefano, stefano Read the private message from ubotu.
[12:42] <Bacta> Hi can someone talk to me about getting OpenGL working, I want to use it as a lib to make games
[12:42]  * Rastafar ñëóøàåò Clint Mansell & Kronos Quartet - Winter: Lux Aeterna
[12:42] <h1st0> Bacta: what video card do you have?
[12:42] <amadeux> mack_sim, those don't seem to do what I want? I don't want to reschedule apps for use of I/O or something like that. I just want to see what app is going nuts and accessing my hard drive, or whether it is just swapping etc
[12:42] <aladinsane> IdleOne: ok thnx for the answer, but lets say that i already installed something from the feisty package on my gutsy distro, wouldn't changing the medibuntu from Feisty to Gutsy not mess with those installs (I dont know if i have installed anything from them but there's a chance)
[12:42] <ikonia> mack_sim: sysstat package
[12:42] <Bacta> i don't know and don't care
[12:42] <Bacta> I just want to be able to compile code examples!
[12:43] <stefano> h1st0, give it to komodo
[12:43] <h1st0> Bacta: well you can just install the libs you need.
[12:43] <IdleOne> aladinsane: if anything it will upgrade any fiesty packages to gutsy
[12:43] <amadeux> Bacta, what language?
[12:43] <ikonia> Bacta: which libraries do you want, with which bindings ?
[12:43] <Bacta> C
[12:43] <h1st0> stefano: I did I was just telling you about the trigger
[12:43] <Bacta> I want opengl
[12:43] <Bacta> should I be getting glut?
[12:43] <_blitz_> I changed the compiz-fusion settings(minimize,maximize etc).and now there are no effects at all.what to do>
[12:43] <ikonia> Bacta: glut is not opengl
[12:43] <stefano> i see
[12:43] <Bacta> what is opengl?
[12:43] <aladinsane> IdleOne: ok fantastic, tnx
[12:43] <Bacta> what package must I download to be able to compile code examples?
[12:43] <ikonia> Bacta: libgl ?
[12:44] <ikonia> Bacta: thats a touch question as it depends on what the requirments of the code are
[12:44] <Fethman> Does anyone else have lagging problems with a synaptic touchpad. I have an alienware are 51m notebook and for no apparent reasen the touch pad starts to lag for a minute from time to time and then gets normal again
[12:44] <Bacta> 2D
[12:44] <ikonia> Bacta: 2d is not a requirment
[12:44] <Ameng> hi all, anyone knows if can use an usb microphone in ubuntu? and how to？ Thanks
[12:45] <Bacta> http://gpwiki.org/index.php/SDL:Tutorials:2D_Graphics
[12:45] <Fethman> It works fine with a usb mouse or under windows xp
[12:45] <stefano> how can i set a quota of say 1 GB for a directory (/var/www/someuser/)
[12:45] <ikonia> Bacta: I'm not going into the code, but that looks like it wants the SDL libs
[12:45] <ikonia> stefano: do you have file system quotas enabled ?
[12:45] <bkraptor> any way I can graphically see the speed of a transfer?
[12:45] <stefano> i suppose not, i'm using ext2
[12:46] <h1st0> bkraptor: transfer of what?
[12:46] <bkraptor> files
[12:46] <aladinsane> IdleOne: hmm, changed it to Gutsy but now i get an error message about Gutsy not having those medibuntu repos, Anybody else know anything about the medibuntu repositories and Gutsy?
[12:46] <Ameng> hi all, anyone knows if can use an usb microphone in ubuntu? and how to？ Thanks
[12:46] <bkraptor> something like DUMeter or BWMeter from Windows
[12:46] <Pici> !medibuntu | aladinsane read this
[12:46] <ubotu> aladinsane read this: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[12:46] <h1st0> aladinsane: nope perhaps the midibuntu people may be able to help more.
[12:47] <stefano> ikonia, i guess i just write a script that checks the size and emails me if its above the limit, that'd be the easy and i could allow more than one gigabyte on special occasions
[12:47] <ikonia> stefano that sounds reasonable
[12:47] <h1st0> stefano: quotas are nice though then you wouldn't have to worry bout it.
[12:48] <nucc2> hey, how does one print to a pdf file?
[12:48] <deathchimp> So, my ATI X1300 Refuses to render textures in 3D games. The typical OpenGL errors such as blocky text and such. What Driver should I have installed?
[12:48] <stefano> ikonia, can you believe my ISP wants me to pay 290€ for a fix ip-adress? :-> they say i have to order the business package i'm a bit upset now
[12:48] <ikonia> stefano: I can believe that, that is not unreasonable
[12:48] <ycy> hi there
[12:49] <nucc2> deathchimp: I find xgl with fglrx makes a lot of strang things break
[12:49] <ycy> i accidentally deleted my ~/.themes
[12:49] <h1st0> stefano: there is posts on teh forums about enabling disk quotas for users.
[12:49] <ycy> i accidentally deleted my ~/.themes and now nautilus keeps 98.4% of the cpu. how can i fix this?
[12:49] <h1st0> stefano: just use dynamic dns
[12:49] <stefano> ikonia, well, i heard about sweden, that they get 100/100mbit connections for under 70€ a month...
[12:49] <deathchimp> nucc2: any suggestions (reminder: me=newb)
[12:49] <ikonia> stefano: your not in sweden
[12:49] <stefano> unfortunately not
[12:50] <ikonia> so how is that relvant
[12:50] <ikonia> stefano: sweden also has very high tax rates, do you want that too ?
[12:50] <nucc2> deathchimp: are you using desktop-effects?
[12:50] <deathchimp> yes
[12:50] <h1st0> stefano: sudo apt-get install quota
[12:50] <stefano> hey thanks h1st0
[12:50] <sasha_> hi
[12:50] <deathchimp> nucc2: yes
[12:50] <sasha_> where i can find support for kino
[12:51] <stefano> no ikonia, i am about to move to the netherlands anyways.
[12:51] <h1st0> sasha_: did you try googling for their web page?
[12:51] <stefano> by the way i am having trouble with dynamic dns since ever, i am certain i set it up correctly but i keep getting abuse-email
[12:51] <sasha_> i was find web page
[12:51] <ikonia> stefano: abuse email ?
[12:51] <sasha_> but it cant help me
[12:51] <h1st0> sasha_: I'm sure they would have links on their page
[12:51] <sasha_> w8 :D
[12:51] <stefano> ikonia, saying that my adress is being refreshed to often
[12:52] <ikonia> stefano: ah so the TTL is too low
[12:52] <ikonia> stefano: one of the prices of dynamic dns
[12:52] <nucc2> deathchimp: are you using proprietary drivers, and 'xgl'?
[12:52] <deathchimp> nucc2: right again
[12:52] <deathchimp> nucc2: I was just happy for the correct screen resolution
[12:52] <nucc2> deathchimp: I disabled desktop effects because things weren't working fine with ati's proprietary drivers
[12:53] <stefano> ikonia, i believe the program only refreshes when my ip has changed. isnt there a "manual" way to update the ip adress on a dynamic dns account? i have a script that uploads it on a webspace for now.
[12:53] <sasha_> only on their forum :S
[12:53] <nucc2> deathchimp: to disable them, uninstall xserver-xgl
[12:53] <sasha_> can someone help me with export video to DV cam
[12:53] <stefano> i should say it should refresh only when the ipa has changed, but apperantly thats not the case
[12:53] <deathchimp> nucc2: What are the chances that will kick me to the terminal
[12:54] <nucc2> deathchimp: zero. just use synaptic. uninstall and logout, and back in
[12:54] <deathchimp> nucc2: thanks, wish me luck
[12:54] <ikonia> stefano dynamic dns should not be used for email
[12:55] <stefano> uh
[12:55] <stefano> ikonia, i didnt say i was going to use it for email
[12:55] <ycy> how can i have all my gnome settings erased?
[12:55] <ikonia> stefano apologies, you said you kept getting abuse mails
[12:55] <h1st0> ycy: delete the .gnome folders in your ~
[12:55] <mack_sim> ycy: you sure you want that?
[12:56] <stefano> ikonia, i was getting emails from dyndns.org saying that i refresh my ip too often. i just installed this client, and let it do his job, and i ticked the little "only refresh when neccessary" in the ncurses script that set it up
[12:56] <ikonia> stefano again, thats one of the hassles of dynamic dns - if you update too often, it can cause problems for the hosters
[12:56] <jrib> stefano: what client?
[12:57] <stefano> ddclient i believe it was called
[12:57] <tntCry> back
[12:57] <ycy> mack_sim: yes, i've accidentally deleted ~/.themes and now nautilus keeps 98% cpu
[12:57] <MindSpark> stefano, ddclient can be set to update every 180 secs
[12:57] <MindSpark> you can use the interval you want
[12:57] <tntCry> how can i retrieve the logs of 2 hours back ikonia ?
[12:57] <dgjones> !logs | tntCry
[12:57] <ubotu> tntCry: Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[12:58] <stefano> MindSpark, i didnt that,still got email. i want it to only run when neccessary, and it said it would do that but it didnt. anyways. i'm going to make some coffee now and try again afterwards. see you all later
[12:58] <stefano> didnt = did
[12:58] <ubun00b> aricz: du her?
[12:59] <tntCry> thanks dgjones but can i get my logs from my system any temperory copy that xcaht does?
[13:00] <Ameng> hi all, anyone knows if can use an usb microphone in ubuntu? and how to？ Thanks
[13:00] <aladinsane> a repositories question again: Is it neccsary, a normal user to have those "Souce code" repositories in my Third-party software list?
[13:00] <jrib> aladinsane: only if you want the source code
[13:01] <rchovan> hi, I have problem to install grub on 2GB HDD, I have tried almost everything, LiveCD, alternate Rescue System, grub-isntall, grub , etc..
[13:01] <aladinsane> Why would i want that?
[13:01] <jrib> aladinsane: so you could read the source code, or edit the source code and recompile
[13:01] <dgjones> tntCry, if you've set xchat to record logs, go to Settings, Preferences and under Chatting, there is a tab for Logging, if you click "Open Data Folder" that will bring up any logs you've recorded
[13:01] <jscinoz> What happened to the package kdar?
[13:02] <christophe> #ubuntu.fr
[13:02] <christophe> oups
[13:04] <tntCry> im going to offtopic for an important speech go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:04] <aladinsane> jrib: ok, so for a person like me who never does any programing, those source code repos are totally unneccessary then, or?
[13:04] <Chousuke_> yes
[13:04] <Chousuke_> well, most of the time
[13:04] <Chousuke_> most of the time they're not useful to programmer either :/
[13:05] <Chousuke_> +s
[13:05] <rchovan> hi, I have problem to install grub on 2GB HDD, I have tried almost everything, LiveCD, alternate Rescue System, grub-isntall, grub , etc..
[13:05] <kahrytan> aladinsane,  no
[13:05] <jrib> aladinsane: probably.  Would be easy enough to enable if you ever change your mind anyway
[13:05] <kahrytan> aladinsane,  may need some code for compiling a program
[13:06] <Chousuke_> kahrytan: you don't need the sources for that.
[13:06] <aladinsane> Ok, got three different answers there, I'll leave them checked then..
[13:06] <Chousuke_> kahrytan: I mean
[13:06] <kahrytan> Chousuke_,  confused -dev for source
[13:06] <Chousuke_> yeah
[13:08] <v1d4l0k4> I need check if a package is already installed. I'm using "dpkg -l | grep package_name", checking the length of return. It's the better way?
[13:09] <wols_> dpkg -l <pakcagename> |grep ^ii
[13:09] <Guillem_> I've trouble with nvidia-dynamic-twinview: metacity (or compiz) do not detect the outputs correctly, so panels span among screens and windows are maximized among screens as well...
[13:10] <v1d4l0k4> wols_: hmm, sounds good. thanks ;)
[13:10] <andreuu> help grub error 22 :(             fdisk -l  says this  /dev/hdc2   *       12495       14567    16651372+  83  Linux
[13:10] <rchovan> quit
[13:10] <rchovan> quit
[13:10] <andreuu> tried root (hd2,1)   but it says no partition
[13:10] <wols_> andreuu: how far do you get with grub? does the menu show?
[13:10] <andreuu> well im in live cd now
[13:10] <andreuu> no grub error 22 then crash at boot
[13:10] <wols_> andreuu: that doesn't answer my question
[13:10] <andreuu> grub installed itself on hda1,
[13:11] <andreuu> in livecd i type root (hd2,1)   in sudo grub
[13:11] <wols_> andreuu: where is your /boot/grub directory?
[13:11] <andreuu> grub loads in live
[13:11] <wols_> andreuu: either answer what I ask or ask someone else for help
[13:11] <andreuu> im not sure, grub installed itself to hda1, i wanted to
[13:12] <andreuu> sorry what is your question again plz?
[13:12] <andreuu> i wanted it to install to hdc1
[13:12] <andreuu> not hda1 is hda2 for some reason and grub gives error 22
[13:13] <andreuu> i dont get a menu in grub its command line
[13:13] <andreuu> lol someone else plz ?
[13:14] <stefano> MindSpark, you said dyndns could be set up to refresh every 180 seconds. is that okay with dyndns.org? do they alow you to refresh so often?
[13:14] <andreuu> plz help ubuntu installed the mbr or something to hda1, linux is on hdc2 and now i get Grub    error 22
[13:15] <andreuu> i want to put a boot sector on hdc and boot from that in bios
[13:16] <andreuu> they say to type root (hd2,1) for hdc2 ?
[13:16] <ubun00b> could someone test my ssh-connection? (ip: <IP_ADDRESS>)
[13:16] <ubun00b> user: toresn
[13:16] <wols_> andreuu: how many harddisks do you have? hda and hdc only?
[13:17] <andreuu> but it says no partition, i imagine my /boot/grub is on hdc2
[13:17] <^0uTLaW^> i need free shell to run psybnc ? can anybody help me ?
[13:17] <Pici> ^0uTLaW^: This is a support channel, please do not ask for free shells here.
[13:17] <mack_sim> andreuu: hdc2 would be root (2,1) in grubspeak, yes
[13:17] <andreuu> um plz wait wols
[13:17] <Nosnik> ubun00b: no response
[13:17] <mack_sim> then say boot
[13:17] <wols_> mack_sim: no it wouldn't if there are only 2 harddisks in the system
[13:18] <IdleOne> ubun00b: no response here either
[13:18] <andreuu> hdb hdc hdd and sda1
[13:18] <Woutifier> Hey
[13:18] <mack_sim> haha
[13:18] <mack_sim> then it's 1,1
[13:18] <andreuu> hdc ?
[13:18] <Woutifier> I have a problem with my graphics, after a while my windows appear black
[13:18] <wols_> andreuu: you just said there was hda? so what is it? please be consistent
[13:19] <mack_sim> no, hdc2
[13:19] <wols_> Woutifier: is it maybe overheating?
[13:19] <Woutifier> nah
[13:19] <Woutifier> I can just ctrl + alt + backspace
[13:19] <Woutifier> and it just works again
[13:19] <andreuu> to boot ubunto i had to make bios boot from hda
[13:19] <andreuu> but its installed on hdc
[13:19] <Woutifier> according to the forums it has something to do with the video memory
[13:19] <Woutifier> but I didn't find a solution for the problem
[13:19] <andreuu> if i boot from hdc nothing happens but hda worked now hda doesnt work and error 22
[13:19] <wols_> andreuu: answer my questions please
[13:20] <wols_> andreuu: if it worked, what did you change since then?
[13:20] <andreuu> nothing
[13:20] <andreuu> i changed it to boot from a diff hd in bios
[13:20] <andreuu> and now hda is showing as hdb
[13:20] <ikonia> andreuu: so you DID change things
[13:21] <mavi-> changing stuff in bios might affect drive letters yes
[13:21] <andreuu> yes but when i changed it back it broke
[13:21] <andreuu> anyway hda is now showing as hdb in bios
[13:21] <andreuu> didnt switch cables or anything
[13:21] <ikonia> andreuu: that sort of thing doesn't happen
[13:21] <ikonia> andreuu:  you've changed things
[13:21] <komodo> h1st0: I need the gutsy version of the amd64 build-essential deb.  The site you referred me to doesnt have gutsy.  Where else can I get deb files from?
[13:22] <andreuu> i rebooted, sound didnt work in my game
[13:22] <andreuu> rebooted again and it stopped altogether
[13:22] <ikonia> komodo: there should be a gutsy release
[13:22] <Pici> komodo: packages.ubuntu.com
[13:22] <Woutifier> is there another ubuntu channel? This one is too crowded for effective troubleshooting
[13:22] <ikonia> Woutifier: only loco channels
[13:22] <ubun00b> Nosnik: IdleOne:  ...and now?
[13:23] <wols_> komodo: packages.ubuntu.com
[13:23] <andreuu> fdisk -l  says this  /dev/hdc2   *       12495       14567    16651372+  83  Linux
[13:23] <andreuu> and grub says this root (hd2,1)Error 22: No such partition
[13:23] <jrib> !who | Woutifier, just make sure you do this:
[13:23] <ubotu> Woutifier, just make sure you do this:: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[13:23] <ikonia> andreuu: thats because hd2 is the THIRD disk
[13:23] <IdleOne> ubun00b: still nothing
[13:23] <ubun00b> dmn
[13:23] <ubun00b> damn
[13:23] <andreuu> hdc is the linux partition
[13:23] <wols_> andreuu: for the last time: how many harddisks. ALL of them please
[13:23] <komodo> hmm, very useful resource, thanks
[13:23] <andreuu> linux disk
[13:23] <jrib> Woutifier: what version of ubuntu?  and what effects are you using?
[13:23] <IdleOne> ubun00b: language please
[13:23] <andreuu> hdb hdc hdd and sda1
[13:23] <ikonia> andreuu: hdb in linux is hd1 in grub
[13:24] <andreuu> so hdc would be hd2
[13:24] <Woutifier> jrib: I'm using gutsy, and full effects with compiz
[13:24] <ubun00b> IdleOne: sorry, i'm very frustrated atm :)
[13:24] <andreuu> root (hd2,1)Error 22: No such partition
[13:24] <ikonia> andreuu: do you want me to say it again for you, hdb is hd1 in grub
[13:24] <wols_> andreuu: it doesn't matter what is hdc or not. grub sees NO hdc
[13:24] <jrib> Woutifier: it's a compiz-related bug.  See if #compiz-fusion knows of a workaround
[13:24] <wols_> ikonia: only if hdb1 exists
[13:24] <IdleOne> ubun00b: understandable but it does not help to curse and is rude. you are intelligent enough to find better ways of expressing your emotions :)
[13:24] <ikonia> wols_: of course
[13:25] <andreuu> i want to boot from hdc
[13:25] <andreuu> in bios
[13:25] <ikonia> andreuu: then change the bios to boot from the correct disk
[13:25]  * wols_ puts andreuu on ignore
[13:25] <Woutifier> jrib: okay thanks!
[13:25] <andreuu> if anyway can help me write a boot sector to that it would be great
[13:25] <ikonia> andreuu: your not understand this at all
[13:25] <ikonia> !grub >andreuu
[13:25] <ikonia> andreuu: read the link from ubotu
[13:26] <andreuu> i answered your questions and you ignore and abuse me
[13:26] <ikonia> andreuu: no-one is abusing you
[13:26] <IdleOne> andreuu: when asking for help it is important that you take the advice of the person helping. insisting on doing things the way you want only makes it harder for the helper to help you
[13:26] <andreuu> i understand it must get frustrating in here plz be patient with me
[13:27] <wols_> andreuu: you lied
[13:27] <andreuu> where did i lie ?
[13:27] <Viaken> Is there a way to reinstall all the packages on my system?
[13:27] <mavi-> andreuu: try removing all disks except the one you want to boot from
[13:27] <andreuu> you are calling me a liar now lol
[13:27] <ubun00b> IdleOne: is it possible for me to test this connection myself, by 'ssh user@my-ip-address' ?
[13:27] <Creationist> I installed ubuntustudio-desktop and when I rebooted, no users appear in the GDM face browser, though I can still login manually.  What gives?
[13:27] <ubun00b> IdleOne: so i don't have to bother you guys each time i need to test it
[13:28] <andreuu> thanks for your help ;)
[13:28] <wols_> < andreuu> grub installed itself on hda1 < wols_> andreuu: how many harddisks do you have? < andreuu> hdb hdc hdd and sda1
[13:28] <Viaken> Because my alternative is to install Fiesty, put a hold on the kernel image, upgrade to Gutsy, reinstall all the software I had on there, recompile my audio drivers, and move my /home backup back...
[13:28] <ikonia> Creationist: thats just a gnome theme option
[13:28] <IdleOne> ubun00b: that might work but you wouldnt know if anybody outside your network can connect. have you open ports on your router?
[13:28] <andreuu> thats straight from fdisk -l
[13:28] <ikonia> andreuu: lets cut to the chase. Forget everything. Put the disks in the order you want in the bios, and leave it alone. Then we can help you configure grub
[13:28] <ubun00b> IdleOne: that's what i'm working on... opening port 22 on my router
[13:29] <andreuu> i have ikonia
[13:29] <MindSpark> stefano, sorry, was away. Yes I had an update of 180 secs with dyndns.org
[13:29] <ikonia> andreuu: right so which disk do you want to install grub on
[13:29] <IdleOne> ubun00b: get that port open and then let me know when you got it I will test with you
[13:29] <andreuu> hdc first its an 80g
[13:29] <andreuu> hdc
[13:29] <ubun00b> IdleOne: oki
[13:29] <andreuu> no 120g lol
[13:29] <ikonia> andreuu: I'm not laughing
[13:29] <Roy_M> Hi, does anyone here have a ATI 3800 working in linux?
[13:29] <andreuu> k
[13:29] <wols_> Viaken: what is the problem?
[13:30] <stefano> MindSpark, i just read on their website "the ip adress should only be updated when it's changed [...] everything else is abuse"
[13:30] <Creationist> ikonia: Ah, I see it changed the gdm from "Theme with face browser" to "theme".  But the strange thing is that it still showed the box where the usernames were held, it was just empty :)
[13:30] <ikonia> Creationist: thats just a theme option
[13:30] <IdleOne> !hardware | Roy_M check the list to see if it is supported
[13:30] <ubotu> Roy_M check the list to see if it is supported: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[13:30] <Roy_M> thanks IdleOne
[13:31] <stefano> MindSpark, i just installed inadyn, it seems pretty lightweight and easy, i will just set a cronjob for every one minute and hope that it checks by itself if the adress has changed or not
[13:31] <andreuu> ok ill unplug the hd's I dont want cause then hopefully i wont kill anything
[13:31] <MindSpark> stefano, these might be new policies. But this is also doable. ddclient stores the last ip in it's cache. You can make it check with your router to see if it has changed or not, and update accordingly
[13:32] <Stormx2`> I'm going to do a fresh install of ubuntu, as gutsy has gotten pretty slow as of late. Any suggestions on what I should back, except for /home?
[13:32] <stefano> MindSpark, ddclient hasnt worked for me
[13:32] <stefano> tried several times
[13:32] <andreuu> only really wanted to verify that (hd2,1) is hdc2
[13:32] <ikonia> Stormx2`: nothing else
[13:32] <MindSpark> stefano, you have a couple of options to do that. Maybe you had your client set to check your ip using dyndns itself. While you could do it with the router
[13:32] <Viaken> wols_: A little filesystem corruption fun, then fsck.jfs decided /usr/lib was unrecoverable and removed it.
[13:32] <andreuu> perhaps it wants to write the boot sector to hdc1
[13:32] <andreuu> mmm
[13:33] <wols_> Viaken: can't you install gutsy and then install whatever special krenel you want?
[13:33] <stefano> MindSpark, i have a wrt54g, i suppose it could do that but right now it's broken. i'm going to return it today if i find the reciep :)
[13:33] <stefano> good idea
[13:33] <andreuu> i answered all your questions zomg guys take a break
[13:33] <Xaosratt> Anyone here familiar with a Webmin+Apache+Awstats setup on ubuntu 7.10?
[13:33] <andreuu> thx hf
[13:33] <ikonia> Xaosratt: webmin is dead in ubuntu
[13:33] <andreuu> do it tomorrow windows still works ....
[13:33] <stefano> Xaosratt, i know that webmis is not to be used anymore
[13:33] <MindSpark> stefano, alright, sorry, I've only worked with ddclient and that was already some time ago.
[13:33] <xcasex> Xaosratt: webmin isnt used by anyone anymore.
[13:33] <xcasex> Xaosratt: what do you need to have done?
[13:34] <muhadi> hello
[13:34] <stefano> MindSpark, thank you for your help anyways, i'll tell you if it worked in two days or so
[13:34] <MindSpark> stefano, great :)
[13:35] <Viaken> wols_: It's not in the repos anymore. My laptop hard locks with 2.6.22-14, but is fine with 2.6.22-11. :\
[13:35] <Viaken> I've filed a bug report.
[13:35] <Xaosratt> xcasex: why is it not used anymore? It seems to be very popular? As for what I need, it apears that the default apache log output is different when configured by webmin in Ubuntu, its causeing some issues with Awstats not getting all available data (ie, no OS or browser data is collected, but the rest is)
[13:35] <stefano> Xaosratt, you should check out lighttpd (pronounced "lighty")
[13:35] <ikonia> Xaosratt: you need to change the log format to combined, but be aware that webmin is dead
[13:35] <carnelai1> I can't record using internal or external mic how can i check if the mics are detected
[13:35] <wols_> Xaosratt: security issues and support issues
[13:36] <Xaosratt> Interesting, would have been nice to know before my server had been online for a month
[13:36] <ikonia> Xaosratt: your responsability to check on software before installing it
[13:36] <Xaosratt> Any site that reffernces these security and support issues?
[13:36] <shameless_> i'm booted to linux on a flash drive right now, is there any way i can back up all the settings i've set before i install on a partition? or should i just not worry about it an reset everything
[13:36] <xcasex> Xaosratt: research research research, is your new litany :)
[13:36] <ikonia> Xaosratt: all over the interent
[13:36] <xcasex> Xaosratt: securityfocus.com
[13:37] <shameless_> and somehow i managed to marco over my 'd' key, so now i have to paste it in if i want to use it
[13:39] <Viaken> Let's try this. How do you connect to a WPA2 wireless network from the command line? :P
[13:39] <Woutifier> Hmm, how can I start compiz with different command line options?
[13:40] <_blitz_> when i click bittorent ,it asks for a bittorent meta file.anyone with some experience on this?
[13:42] <ndlovu> hmm... I'm getting about 50 lines of this in dmesg, should I be worried? 'drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: nonzero read/write bulk status received: -71'
[13:42] <Matrosh> Hi I have a problem i am using HP 530 and ubuntu but sound dont work i tried hing helped can anyone help me pls i am new to linuxto set sound but not
[13:42] <mavi-> ndlovu: do you have an usb connected device that works weird?
[13:43] <wols_> new to the english language too I guess
[13:43] <wols_> Matrosh: how about taking a DEEEP breath, think what you want to say and then say it coherently
[13:43] <IdleOne> wols_: no need to be insulting
[13:43] <ndlovu> mavi-, it's a printer that seems to work fine sometimes, and other times it hangs until I switch it off and on again
[13:43] <thor> wols_   let's hear your Inuktitut
[13:43] <riotkittie> wols_: no need to be nasty
[13:43] <mavi-> ndlovu: thats probably it
[13:43] <Woutifier> Hmm, how can I start compiz with different command line options?, In other words which file starts compiz
[13:43] <wols_> this is not an inuit channel, is this?
[13:43] <mavi-> ndlovu: try google the error message
[13:43] <wols_> english isn't my first language either
[13:44] <ndlovu> mavi-, I'll see what I can find
[13:44] <shameless_> how can i reset the stupid thing i did by macroing over the 'd' key?
[13:45] <IdleOne> wols_: then you should understand better then others how difficult english is to learn. be patient and polite if you cant then you should not be in here trying to help people
[13:45] <Xaosratt> ikonia: Ok, Webmins issues aside for the moment, apache logformat is "LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-Agent}i\"" combined". What exactly is not right with this to be causing Awstats to only accept "Logformat=4", rather than the 1 all the help files say it should be out of the box with apache2?
[13:45] <xcasex> tssk. we're all debian users, we were born being arrogant sons of bi...
[13:45] <Matrosh> Hm my usb devices works well , only sound doesnt work.I downloaded codecs nothing changed.
[13:46] <xcasex> Matrosh: do you know how to start up synaptic?
[13:46] <Matrosh> i downloaded Mplayer(friend adviced it to me that it uses own codecs)
[13:46] <riotkittie> xcasex: i'd venture to say no, we're not all debian users :P
[13:46] <wols_> xcasex: you should know that in here we aren't debian users...
[13:46] <xcasex> riotkittie: then you're diluted :p
[13:46] <xcasex> wols_ hey i still consider myself a SLS user :p
[13:46] <ntbnnt> ubuntu is not debian
[13:47] <xcasex> just like gentoo isnt LFS :p
[13:47] <wols_> I doubt you can still find SLS anywhere. not to mention it wouldn't run on your hardware unless you have a 386sx tucked away somewhere
[13:47] <xcasex> wols_: tssk.
[13:47] <xcasex> anyway, coffee break!
[13:47] <Matrosh> yes i know how to start synaptic
[13:48] <wols_> Matrosh: what do you mean with usb devuces works well only sound doesn't work?
[13:48] <wols_> is your soundcard working or not?
[13:49] <wols_> what soundfiles are you trying to play?
[13:49] <lacuce> hello all
[13:49] <ronnie> HI~
[13:49] <Matrosh> soundcard is working correctly on WinXP which i am using on this notebook too
[13:49] <IdleOne> !hi | lacuce
[13:49] <ubotu> lacuce: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[13:50] <lacuce> can anyone tell me how to change the network device name from eth2 to eth0?
[13:51] <stefano> lacuce, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG111 (under part 2 dapper drake)
[13:51] <wols_> lacuce: /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules
[13:51] <lacuce> stefano, thanks, i'll check it out
[13:52] <lacuce> wols, thanks, i'll look at it
[13:54] <Bonster> any alert reminder program ?
[13:54] <genii> teatime?
[13:54] <Bonster> let me check that out
[13:55] <sam_> Hi
[13:55] <sam_> I've got a question
[13:55] <jimmacdonald> Hello
[13:55] <Mortice> !ask | sam_
[13:55] <ubotu> sam_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[13:56] <sam_> Why does the route command waits a couple of secs before showing the default gw?
[13:56] <IdleOne> must be how long it takes for the command to search and report the output
[13:56] <sam_> hmmm
[13:56] <IdleOne> couple of seconds to long to wait?
[13:57] <sam_> I was thinking that it could mean there could be some kind of problem with the network setup
[13:58] <lacuce> wols_, thanks, the device name is now changed to eth0
[13:59] <IdleOne> the only problem I find with linux distros is that everybody is always looking for bugs. in windows if something takes 2 seconds you dont see 1500 users join a channel to ask about it
[13:59] <wols_> windows users don't use irc
[13:59] <IdleOne> wols_: sure they do
[13:59] <IdleOne> but this is offtopic
[13:59] <IdleOne> sorry
[14:00] <sam_> Well
[14:00] <sybariten> i'm starting up ubuntu from a magazine cover disc on my office machine. Surely i should be able to see the harddrive in one way or another?
[14:00] <wols_> and people don#t look for bugs. it's just that in linux you still ahve to do a lot of "manual" work, while on windows all vendors makre sure you only have to click on setup.exe, next,next,next,finish
[14:00] <sam_> I'm sorry, but route is a simple command
[14:00] <sybariten> i do df -h and all i see are things called tmpfs, varrun, udev and such
[14:00] <sam_> and I'd hope it would just give me it's current setup
[14:00] <wols_> if that wizard doesn't work it's of course unsolvable but that's why lots of people are paid to make sure it does work
[14:00] <sybariten> i was expecting some /dev drive or so
[14:00] <Matrosh> So please can anyone help me with my sound problem? I am using notebook HP530 i installed ubuntu and sound doesn't work i've been trying to open mp3 or avi files also starting sound doesnt play :X
[14:00] <wols_> sybariten: you should
[14:01] <sybariten> hm
[14:01] <sam_> But I'll dig into its source to try to find why the hell it takes a couple of seconds to  do that
[14:01] <wols_> sybariten: what disk controller?
[14:01] <sybariten> this is a red hat machine by the way, so the drive could be ext2 or ext3 or so
[14:01] <sybariten> wols_: hm. sorry man... what is? this could be a scsi system
[14:01] <IdleOne> Matrosh: have you installed w32codecs ?
[14:02] <sybariten> i looked into /etc/fstab to see if anything had been automatically added there
[14:02] <sybariten> but nothing exciting there
[14:02] <wols_> look at lspci output instead
[14:03] <sceo> is anyone familiar with the zd1211rw driver?  does it support SMP or do I NEED  the vendor-based community driver for that?
[14:03] <dgjones> sybariten, the hard drive may not have been automatically mounted, possibly you'll have to look into mounting it manually before you get access to it
[14:03] <Matrosh> idleOne : nope i am idiot i know i am new in that can you play help me with it where i can download it ? easily with dowloading program or from some special page ?
[14:03] <sybariten> dgjones: yeah but still... as long as there is a boot-able HD in the machine, shouldnt it be visible with df -h?
[14:04] <IdleOne> !w32codecs
[14:04] <ubotu> The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[14:04] <sybariten> i mean, sure, i may miss it but i generally tend to see what the drives are
[14:05] <Bonster> any good Alert software?
[14:05] <IdleOne> alert software?
[14:05] <Bonster> or reminder
[14:05] <Bonster> software
[14:05] <sybariten> Bonster: you could check freshmeat for "pim"
[14:05] <keo92> Hi all !
[14:05] <dgjones> sybariten, not sure, i've never needed to use the df command, i don't know whether it will show unmounted drives
[14:06] <ShredZ> I can't compile these vmware kernel modules on feisty... wth not !?
[14:06] <keo92> How could it be possible that i can't find my libnss-ldap.conf after installed the libnss-ldap package ?
[14:06] <wols_> ShredZ: do you think we are psychic?
[14:06] <keo92> For information, i'm running on Gutsy !
[14:06] <ShredZ> wols_, no but you might know why stock ubuntu kernel headers don't compile with vmware modules ?
[14:06] <sybariten> hey, i found
[14:06] <sybariten> it
[14:06] <sybariten> i think
[14:06] <wols_> ShredZ: there are error messages
[14:07] <sybariten> i remember now, sudo fdisk -l is the thing i generally use, not df -h .... and i see a /dev/sda1 and a /dev/sda2
[14:07] <sybariten> Linux LVM, what does that mean?
[14:07] <wols_> logical volume manager
[14:07] <wols_> !lvm
[14:07] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[14:07] <sam_> Just to let you know I've answered my own question
[14:08] <sybariten> ok ... and what does it "mean to me" in this case? one partition is of id 83, looks smaller, the other is of id 8e, thats the LVM one, looks bigger
[14:08] <sam_> If your route takes a couple of seconds to display the current setup
[14:08] <sam_> you have a problem with your resolv.conf
[14:08] <sam_> :p
[14:08] <Rickk> hi, is it possible to prevent users from seeing others processes with top and ps, how so?
[14:08] <wols_> sam_: what problem was it?
[14:08] <ShredZ> wols_, http://pastebin.org/10298
[14:09] <sam_> route was taking a couple of seconds to display the default gw
[14:09] <krim> If I press Clear in Mplayers equalizer the colors get all screwed, anyone know how to set them back to "default"?
[14:09] <wols_> ShredZ: you probably need the any-to-any patch for vmware
[14:10] <OroMaster> When I boot, my network interfaces are all screwed up: lo is missing entirely and eth0 is not configured for the static IPv4 address I assigned it.  I can fix it with "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart; sudo ifconfig lo up" once I have logged in, but I would like it to start up correctly on boot.
[14:10] <wols_> sam_: I meant, what was the problem in your resolv.conf?
[14:10] <chazco> hi
[14:10] <chazco> Anyone able to tell me how to bypass fsck at startup?
[14:10] <h1st0> Rickk: probably by changing the groups they belong to.
[14:10] <LjL> !fsck > chazco    (chazco, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:11] <sam_> I had old nameservers, that were a couple of thousand miles apart from my current network :/
[14:11] <h1st0> Rickk: did you try searching the forums?
[14:11] <sam_> the lag was due to the time it tokk to perform a nslookup
[14:11] <chazco> LjL - so theres no way to bypass it when it happens though? I'm using a laptop, and it can be annoying when it decides to fsck 120GB filesystem on battery before a presentation
[14:12] <wols_> chazco: tune2fs
[14:12] <LjL> chazco: no, when it starts it must be left running, otherwise it may *break* the filesystem
[14:12] <chazco> Ah typical :( Makes my laptop impractical really
[14:12] <toresn> IdleOne: could you try now? toresn.dyndns.org
[14:12] <LjL> chazco: well, just tell it to never fsck at all, and remember to do it manually once in a while
[14:12] <wols_> chazco: just power down your lappie cleanly and it won't happen
[14:13] <LjL> that too
[14:13] <chazco> It does it every 30 or so boots wols_
[14:13] <chazco> But it seems to always be the one when i dont want it to :D
[14:13] <krim> LjL: I used to press ctrl+alt+del when it started checking the disk, never had any problems but I guess that's not recommended :D
[14:13] <wols_> that you can change by tune2fs as I said
[14:13] <AssassiN> do enyone know were the hell is Etapien
[14:14] <chazco> I guess... but disabling it altogether isnt the best solution
[14:14] <ShredZ> thanks wols_ , that patch seems to have done it alright
[14:14] <krim> chazco: I remember seeing some guide that explained how to stop it but I can't remember how it was done or where it was. Can't be that hard to find with google though.
[14:15] <krim> Can anyone give me their defaults for video in Mplayers equalizer? I've messed up my settings and don't know how to get them back to default.
[14:15] <LjL> chazco, a quick look at the relevant /etc/init.d scripts seems to tell me that fsck is not run when on battery power
[14:15] <chazco> hmm... it has definatly done it before
[14:15] <OroMaster> The only thing that is different from my previous install on this machine is that / is on /dev/md0 and /var symlinks to a directory on /dev/md1 (which is automounted to /drives/mirror).
[14:15] <smookerPC1> how do i register my nick ?
[14:15] <Mortice> !register | smookerPC1
[14:15] <ubotu> smookerPC1: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[14:16] <chazco> Perhaps it changed between 7.04 & 7.10... a lot of stuff did
[14:16] <IdleOne> toresn: nope
[14:16] <IdleOne> toresn: connection timed out
[14:16] <pdlnhrd> is there a program that would allow you to find out a password that was stored into the "keyring"  i have a mapping set up to an ftp account but i need to get the password
[14:16] <sybariten> my guess is that this is asked like once a day, but....
[14:17] <sybariten> ....is there any NTFS write support with the Ubuntu live CD?
[14:17] <sybariten> if so, i am ditching the LVM machine and trying ubuntu on an XP machine here....  but i need disk access, coz i am gonna work on some large files...
[14:18] <erUSUL> !ntfs-3g
[14:18] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[14:18] <sybariten> and with "NTFS support", i mean something in the line of "it works, you will not destroy your companys XP install while doing it"
[14:18] <amadeux> what's the best way to view hd (720p) apple trailers when browsing apple's site with firefox?
[14:19] <amadeux> What's the best way to view hd (720p) apple trailers when browsing apple's site with firefox?
[14:20] <sarthor> HI, using feisty lame server every things going fine. but my squid is not working fine. i download paltalk, msn messnger etc files but when i download these files next time, its not comming from my cache, Why Help
[14:20] <sarthor> i am not using any bandwidth controller
[14:21] <dzb> Allthough ESD is activated, only one app can access the sound device at a time... how can I fix this? Feisty-Gnome-ALSA
[14:21] <scguy318> sybariten: NTFS-3G is it
[14:21] <Bonster> does the new pidgin has video support?
[14:26] <scguy318> Bonster: no
[14:27] <amadeux> can I view apple trailers (.mov/h.264) with totem?
[14:27] <IdleOne> !dvd | amadeux
[14:27] <ubotu> amadeux: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[14:27] <sarthor> HI, using feisty lame server every things going fine. but my squid is not working fine. i download paltalk, msn messnger etc files but when i download these files next time, its not comming from my cache, Why Help
[14:27] <sarthor> i am not using any bandwidth controller
[14:28] <zombie_monkey> how do I enable a framebuffer console
[14:28] <amadeux> IdleOne, I am not talking about dvds
[14:29] <amadeux> Is medibuntu available for gutsy?
[14:29] <dgjones> !medibuntu | amadeux
[14:29] <zombie_monkey> I found /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.22-14/drivers/video/intelfb and /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/video/intelfb
[14:29] <ubotu> amadeux: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[14:29] <IdleOne> amadeux: you need libdvdcss2 to view .mov files
[14:29] <amadeux> IdleOne, ok
[14:30] <amadeux> IdleOne, but mplayer seems to be able to play h.264 files just fine?
[14:30] <chazco> LjL - which init.d script was the battery test in?
[14:30] <LjL> chazco, both checkfs.sh and checkroot.sh
[14:30] <chazco> Oki, thanks :)
[14:30] <askand>  Is there a way to have the mousescrollbutton switch windows?
[14:31] <aladinsane> is the a video/stream capturing application for ubuntu? i need to record a real media video stream
[14:31] <sarthor> HI, my pasted squid is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46683/ ..using feisty lame server every things going fine. but my squid is not working fine. i download paltalk, msn messnger etc files but when i download these files next time, its not comming from my cache, Why Help
[14:33] <amadeux> aladinsane, I think mplayer can do that
[14:34] <amadeux> aladinsane, btw, bowie rocks
[14:34] <OroMaster> Does Ubuntu need /var to be on the same filesystem as / in order to boot correctly?
[14:34] <aladinsane> amadeux: ok, i'll have a look at it, yes he he's the man!
[14:34] <toresn> IdleOne: could try again? the port should be open now
[14:35] <toresn> * +you
[14:35] <K_Dallas> Morning guys! How do I get the connection when I connect ubuntu to a router? Under Windows the connection is automatically there. Thanks
[14:35] <ron_> i have a system with 2 drives one os and one data, i rebooted the other day an now the second data disk is gone, i can boot to the live disk and use the second disk just fine
[14:35] <IdleOne> toresn: timed out again
[14:35] <ron_> but not on may main system
[14:36] <bakarat> is it possible to log in with 2 users in gnome simultaneously? (so the session of user1 is kept alive while user2 is busy and vica versa)
[14:36] <ron_> mount /dev/sdb1 /160gig/
[14:36] <ron_> mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /160gig/ busy
[14:36] <genii> OroMaster: /var can be any filesystem that can be written to if it's on a separate partition than / but normally it's ext2/ext3
[14:36] <ron_> i took it out of fstab
[14:36] <toresn> IdleOne: ok :/
[14:36] <ron_> but still cannot mount
[14:36] <mluser-work> Is there a way to have ubuntu associate with a trusted wireless point, even before a user logs on?
[14:36] <amadeux> When I try to play a .mov/h.264 file in totem, I get this error: "Video codec 'Advanced Video Coding (H264)' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies." I have installed medibuntu repos in my sources.list and apt-get'ed w32codecs and libdvdcss2, but still....
[14:38] <OroMaster> I have /dev/md0 (ext3) mounted at / and /dev/md1 (ext3) mounted at /drives/mirror with /var symlinking to /drives/mirror/var.  My network is screwy on boot up.
[14:39] <OroMaster> On boot, lo is down and eth0 is not configured correctly.
[14:39] <smookerPC1> Hey, what means Enable GL Desktop ?
[14:39] <bkraptor> amadeux: I play that kind of files with mplayer
 what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[14:40] <OroMaster> "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart; sudo ifconfig lo up" seems to solve the problem, but what can I do to get it to boot cleanly?
[14:40] <a1r3yu> Argh.  Automatix is freezing up on me!
[14:41] <bulmer> OroMaster-> having /var symlink to unmounted partition at boot is sure a prescription for disaster
[14:41] <LjL> !automatix | a1r3yu
[14:41] <ubotu> a1r3yu: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[14:41] <amadeux> hardware-Rks, gutsy
[14:41] <OroMaster> /dev/md1 automounts to /drives/mirror on boot.  /var points into that directory.
[14:42] <bulmer> OroMaster-> attempt to correct the symlinking  problem first, /var is a very important system directory for logging and such..
[14:42] <amadeux> bkraptor, yeah, mplayer works ok for that sort of file. But the mplayer plugin does not work flawlessly at all, not on the apple page at least. I think apple uses some crap techniques so that it only works fine with quicktime (yuck)
[14:42] <smookerPC1> whats automatix ?
[14:42] <angah> hello all
[14:42] <angah> i got problem using apt-get
[14:42] <zth> hello
[14:42] <LjL> smookerPC1: a pretty useless script, google will answer you, or read the above article
[14:42] <Pici> smookerPC1: Its a package that makes it easier to install some programs, but often fails and leads to a broken system, we dont support it, please see ubotu;s nessage above.
[14:43] <angah> it show this error > E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[14:43] <angah> E: Couldn't read list of package sources
[14:43] <Kaur> Hi
[14:43] <zth> where can i find what the "adress" to my USB audio is? It aint /dev/dsp
[14:43] <angah> any idea?
[14:43] <peroyhav> Hello guys, I'm new to this, and have a question about my sound, I run a Laptop from toshiba and the alsa mixer reports my sound as functioning. I have sound in headphones but not in the laptop speakers, anybody who knows what to do?
[14:43] <OroMaster> Will it work to mount a device (like /dev/md1) right on /var?
[14:43] <smookerPC1> aw i wont use it then :)
[14:43] <a1r3yu> Dangit, I wish I'd read that about automatix before I let it loose.
[14:43] <sainry> hi Kaur:
[14:43] <wols_> angah: it clearly tells you what's wrong
mp4 and mov support failed for me too...   I had to install vlc player.   It looks like ubuntu 7.10 removed mp4 and mov support for ffmpeg.  They might have done the same for Totem...  Legal issues
[14:44] <Kaur> It would be nice to hear your opinions on that:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=621147&highlight=hdd+sound
[14:44] <genii> OroMaster: Yes, you can directly use something like md1 or so as /var
[14:44] <ubun00b> IdleOne: could you try one last time? if it doesn't work this time i'm giving up for the day :-)
[14:44] <mluser-work> Is there a way to have ubuntu associate with a trusted wireless point, even before a user logs on?
[14:44] <sybariten> scguy318: have you tried it yourself?
[14:44] <zth> where can i find what the "adress" to my USB audio is? It aint /dev/dsp. Anyone?
[14:44] <sarthor> HI, my pasted squid is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46683/ ..using feisty lame server every things going fine. but my squid is not working fine. i download paltalk, msn messnger etc files but when i download these files next time, its not comming from my cache, Why Help
  Play your .mov and .mp4 files with Vlc Player
[14:45] <bulmer> mluser-work-> yes, your root user can set that up, assuming the AP is available
[14:45] <wols_> mluser-work: yes by configuring your /etc/network/interfaces
[14:45] <angah> wols: http://pastebin.com/m215fa6f4 from my /etc/apt/source.list
[14:45] <OroMaster> Is there any reason then that I can't mount it elsewhere and symlink /var to it?  Does the system give mounting priority to certain filetree locations?
[14:45] <angah> i saw nothing wrong in it
[14:45] <mluser-work> bulmer: wols_: thanks
[14:45] <zombie_monkey> how do I make ubuntu open a console using intelfb as a framebuffer console driver when I press ctrl+alt+fx
[14:45] <bulmer> OroMaster-> make an effort to have /var  not a symlink...its an important system directory
[14:46] <nkbreau> can someone please help me, i have ubuntu gutsy and a conf call i need to attend but cant get the mic to work... using a dell d830 laptop. so far i havent foiund anything using google that explains how to enable it
[14:46] <IdleOne> toresn: asking for username and password. good job you did it
[14:46] <angah> wols: any idea?
[14:46] <tntCry> how come when i send a file to my friend it uploads at 3kb/s hes on LAN , while in msn windows it uploads at .5MB
[14:46] <Ameng>  hi all, anyone knows if can use an usb microphone in ubuntu? and how to？ Thanks
[14:46] <angah> wols_: any idea?
[14:46] <angah> wols_: http://pastebin.com/m215fa6f4 from my /etc/apt/source.list
[14:46] <tntCry> im sending through pidgins btw
[14:46] <ubun00b> IdleOne: ahh, great! thank you :)
[14:46] <Kaur> Ameng: yes u can
[14:46] <IdleOne> ubun00b: np
[14:46] <andreuu> does anyone know how to add a boot sector to a hd ?
[14:47] <OroMaster> genii> thank you for your input
[14:47] <Ameng>  Kaur， but how to do that?
[14:47] <Kaur> Ameng: plug it in, choose the right device from audio settings and...)
[14:47] <IdleOne> !ficgrub | andreuu read this link before asking again
[14:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ficgrub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:47] <andreuu> !ficgrub
[14:47] <IdleOne> !fixgrub | andreuu read this link before asking again
[14:47] <ubotu> andreuu read this link before asking again: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[14:47] <angah> wols_: i keep thinking what wrong
[14:47] <Kaur> Ameng: it should work fine
[14:47] <Strykar> evening
[14:47] <Kaur> Ameng: I've used one
[14:47] <bkraptor> is there a graphical way to see bandwidth usage? gnome desktop btw
[14:47] <Strykar> is this a place to discuss the Ubuntu-Rescue-Remix dostro?
[14:48] <Ameng> Kaur, but my sound card use a oss driver. the micorphone will use an alsa one?
[14:48] <omar> My desktop has got one workstation only, how do I make them two or four??
[14:48] <tntCry> IMPROTANT QUESTION , my lan transfer upload speed is 3kb on pidgins .. my friends is on windows and its very slow...
[14:48] <PriceChild> Strykar, this is for official ubuntu support
[14:48] <bulmer> omar-> ctrl+alt+f2 f3 f4 f5 are consoles
[14:48] <PriceChild> tntCry, because it has to go through the msn servers (or whatever client)
[14:49] <heartsblood> does anybody know why the current release of moblock can't build a blocklist from moblock-control update?
[14:49] <Kaur> Ameng: Not sure about it
[14:49] <tntCry> what should i do PriceChild
[14:49] <Strykar> PriceChild: thanks, any idea if the escue-remix team has an IRC channel
[14:49] <Ameng>  Kaur, can they work together
[14:49] <Kaur> Ameng: I use ALSA
[14:49] <Kaur> Ameng: Try:)
[14:49] <tntCry> i cant see hes network PriceChild when i try to send it directly
[14:49] <Ameng> Kaur, ok ,i ll try
[14:49] <heartsblood> scratch that, the current version doesn't come with a blocklist at all
[14:50] <peroyhav> does anyboy here know how to configure sound-cards in Ubuntu 7.10?
[14:50] <PriceChild> Strykar, read the web page and find out
[14:50] <Kaur> Ameng: All I know is that I managed to use an usb mic and play the stuff I recorded without having to change the drivers
[14:50] <PriceChild> tntCry, nothing you can do
[14:50] <tntCry> the folder content could not be displayed  .. Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: workgroup".
[14:51] <tntCry> i am shareing a file and he cant see it
[14:51] <askand> Is there a way to have the mousebuttons in the keycombinationsettings?
[14:51] <angah> !apt-get
[14:51] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[14:51] <heartsblood> n/m the list must have been hammered
[14:51] <Strykar> PriceChild: it isn't listed there or in the channel list here, i'll keep looking thanks
[14:51] <Ameng> Kaur,sounds good, thanks for sharing you experience
[14:51] <tntCry> damn this problem arised since i started ubuntu but fed up after 8 hours of waste asking questions , and 11 hours of searching the net with a numb foot
[14:52] <tntCry> Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: mshome".
[14:52] <hackeron_> hey, my X won't start after reboot, it says gtk is configured setuid and this is not supported - any ideas?
[14:52] <smookerPC1> How i can change my icons to be smoller ?
[14:52] <Kaur> Íf I use gutsy with its default kernel, my laptop makes really frequent and quiet beeping. I think it is the HDD but I'm not 100% sure. If I use 2.6.20-16-generic kernel the beeping is gone. What might be the issue with gutsy's kernel?
[14:52] <Kaur> Ameng: No problem.
[14:52] <omar> My desktop has got one workspace only, how do I make them two or four??
[14:53] <ketrox> right click
[14:53] <Kaur> omar: exactly
[14:53] <omar> Kaur: Exactly what??
[14:54] <genii> omar: Rightclick on where your workspaces are
[14:54] <Kaur> omar: right click on a workspace
[14:54] <tntCry> smookerPC1, look at my desktop http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/2/f_Screenshotm_d5d011c.png&srv=img01
[14:54] <Kaur> bottom-right corner
[14:54] <tntCry> omar, take a look ;) http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/2/f_Screenshotm_d5d011c.png&srv=img01
[14:54] <juelz> hello, i wanna change the locales but a "dpkg-reconfigure locales" quits with "Generation complete.". how do i change the locales via the debconf frontend?
[14:54] <hackeron_> anyone? I can't login to gnome after reboot, it says gtk is running as setuid and this is not allowed - any ideas?
[14:55] <omar> Kaur: Ooooooh!! Okay! I got it now.. :D thanx 4 ur help dude! That was easier than I thought.. :)
[14:55] <ketrox> hackeron_, sudo apt-get install kdm
[14:55] <zombie_monkey> "Update: After poking about the Net a bit more, I have discovered the intelfb driver won't connect with an LCD unless the module is built into the kernel. Further, it requires a lot of detailed loading instructions in the kernel line in GRUB. Further, I find suspend won't work without the swsusp patch compiled into the kernel. I believe it's now called suspend2." -> is that right?
[14:55] <angah> wols_: i dont know how to solve it
[14:55] <angah> wols_: it make me headache
[14:56] <wols_> angah: tried deleting line #1?
[14:56] <hackeron_> ketrox: I'd rather fix libgtk
[14:56] <tntCry> do you mean to make it this big smookerPC1 ?
[14:56] <Kaur> omar: np. But keep the number of workspaces reasonable. If u have too many of them it's a waste of resource
[14:56] <bkraptor> does anyone know how to fix suspend/hibernate with ati fglrx?
[14:56] <smookerPC1> no
[14:56] <smookerPC1> i mean to make it smoller
[14:57] <bodo> now i have ubuntu 7.10 and i wanna setup fedora8 beside it but i don't have a cd/dvd is there any way to setup from the image on the hard disk????
[14:57] <smookerPC1> the icons
[14:57] <juelz> hello, i wanna change the locales but a "dpkg-reconfigure locales" quits with "Generation complete.". how do i change the locales via the debconf frontend?
[14:57] <wols_> bodo: that's more of a fedora question, isn't it?
[14:57] <bazhang_> bodo: is that a question on how to setup fedora or ubuntu?
[14:58] <hackeron_> anyone? I can't login to gnome after reboot, it says gtk is running as setuid and this is not allowed - any ideas?
[14:58] <bodo> no wols cause there was away by coping two files into ubuntu then install
[14:58] <ron_> does any one know what could hold a drive in use
[14:58] <bazhang_> bodo: probably should ask in #fedora
[14:58] <wols_> bodo: two ubuntu files or two fedora files? it's still e fedora questionq hen you want to install it
[14:59] <ron_> i have rebooted , removed from fstab , but even fdsk it
[14:59] <wols_> the question is "I want to install fedora from an existing ubuntu to another partition"
[14:59] <hackeron_> ketrox: I tried xdm, same error
[14:59] <ron_> still cannot mount it abgin
[14:59] <ron_> again
[14:59] <ketrox> xdm uses gtk too
[14:59] <bodo> you are right wols
[14:59] <ketrox> kdm uses qt
[14:59] <chazco> Hi... whats the best way to control my 7.10 laptop from my 7.10 desktop (over LAN)?
[14:59] <hackeron_> ketrox: I want to use gtk...
[14:59] <wols_> chazco: there never is a "best"
[14:59] <hackeron_> ketrox: so will kdm if I get it to start gnome
[14:59] <chazco> Ok... any option would be a start :D
[15:00] <wols_> chazco: possibilities are among others remote X, vnc, ssh, etc
[15:00] <bodo> wols_: the question is "I want to install fedora from an existing ubuntu to another partition" right but how????
[15:00] <chazco> Used to use Remote desktop when i had Vista... looking for something similar
[15:00] <wols_> bodo: ask #fedora
[15:00] <Kaur> Those of you who are using gutsy with its default kernel... Could you please listen to your laptops very closely:)? And I'm not joking. Mine starts to beep silently when I try to use Gutsy with its default kernel.
[15:00] <bodo> thx
[15:00] <chazco> Kaur - Using a laptop now... no beeping....
[15:00] <wols_> bodo: if you'd want to isntall ubuntu from fedora we could help but not your way
[15:00] <taneli_> I have a laptop with 500Mhz and 64mb Ram. What distro would i be able to install and run on it? Even Vectorlinux seems to need 96mb
[15:00] <Pici> Kaur: Mines not beeping either.
[15:00] <Kaur> Hm...
[15:00] <wols_> Kaur: acpi probs?
[15:01] <Kaur> Am I paranoid or what:D?
[15:01] <Pici> taneli_: Probably not any variant of Ubuntu, you might want to ask in ##linux
[15:01] <hackeron_> taneli_: slackware?
[15:01] <bulmer> taneli_-> try damn small linux
[15:01] <taneli_> damn small linux seems pretty ugly to me
[15:01] <Kaur> wols_: dunno:D
[15:01] <smookerPC1> lol :P
[15:01] <wols_> for any answer other than *ubuntu, this is the wrong channel for you to ask
[15:01] <bulmer> taneli_-> then make your pc prettier, add more memories
[15:01] <Kaur> wols_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/152439
[15:02] <taneli_> what are the requirements for slackware
[15:02] <wols_> Terrasque: ask ##linux
[15:02] <employee_> hi
[15:02] <wols_> taneli_: you are offtopic
[15:02] <hackeron_> anyone? I can't login to gnome after reboot, it says gtk is running as setuid and this is not allowed - any ideas?
[15:02] <rafal> hi
[15:02] <chazco> You could try Xubuntu... If XP can run on that i'd expect it to...
[15:02] <wols_> hackeron_: gtk is running?
[15:02] <employee_> how are you
[15:02] <zombie_monkey> taneli_: http://www.slackware.com/install/sysreq.php
[15:02] <hackeron_> wols_: no, it isn't
[15:03] <bulmer> hackeron_-> try to log- on via console
[15:03] <hackeron_> bulmer: I am
[15:03] <chazco> "Once installed, Xubuntu can run with 64 MB RAM, but it is strongly recommended to have at least 128 MB RAM."
[15:03] <wols_> < hackeron>: ...it says gtk is running as setuid
[15:03] <wols_> so what did you say there
[15:03] <employee_> rafal: hi
[15:03] <rafal> my ubuntu hanged when left for the night.  ubuntu 7.10 on amd64.  Is it possible that it was software bug?  It showed random "noise" (not moving) on screen, and didnt reacted to anything (capslock, power button)
[15:03] <hackeron_> wols_: it quits straight after
[15:03] <bulmer> hackeron_-> gnome is not in console
[15:03] <hackeron_> bulmer: .xsession-errors is however
[15:03] <wols_> hackeron_: gtk can't "run". it's a library
[15:03] <bulmer> hackeron_-> no x stuff in console, if you understand what console is
[15:03] <rafal> hackeron_:  you ment gnome?
[15:05] <hackeron_> wols_: gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid. This is not supproted use of GTK+ .... Refusing to initialize GTK+
[15:05] <rafal> what to use if I want good 3d (doom3) but open drivers...  is Radeon better then NVIdia?  does it work now (ie on ubuntu) or "it will work one day"?
[15:06] <hackeron_> rafal: no I didn't
[15:06] <hackeron_> bulmer: X runs on top of console, if you understand what console is
[15:06] <hackeron_> bulmer: you can get X messages in .xsession-errors
[15:07] <wols_> rafal: radeon r3xx cards have open 3D drives. nvidia cards don't have free, open drivers at all for 3D, 2D only
[15:07] <bulmer> hackeron_ go to ctrl+alt+f1 and attempt as many time you wish to start X
[15:07] <wols_> another one with free open drivers is intel
[15:07] <jdo> anyone know of a decent "Linux Compatible" web cam?
[15:07] <hackeron_> Anyone? - I get the following when trying to startx or login throuh gdm: Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid. This is not supported use of GTK+ .... Refusing to initialize GTK+
[15:08] <hackeron_> bulmer: no shit
[15:08] <bazhang_> ohmy
[15:08] <Pici> !language | hackeron_
[15:08] <ubotu> hackeron_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[15:08] <rafal> wols_: how good are open drivers for radeon?  which radeon up to 180 USD is recommeneded?
[15:09] <Chest> guys, how do I change the gnome menu/system font size?
[15:09] <K_Dallas> A question about email lient Evolution: I am trying to set up a gmail imap account but nowhere I see an option to leave the messages on the server. Am I missing something? Thanks
[15:10] <hackeron_> Anyone? - I get the following in .xsession-errors and X dies when I startx or login throuh gdm: Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid. This is not supported use of GTK+ .... Refusing to initialize GTK+
[15:10] <bach> hello everybody!    I have a big big problem.         last week ,i changed the keyboard shortcut of scim, now the wine can't work as before,and Warcraft also can't play,compiz doesn't work too.  compizconfig-settings-manager can't open? can u help me
[15:10] <Creationist> Where can I go to get help for Ubuntu Studio-specific apps?
[15:11] <bazhang_> which apps?
[15:11] <jdo> anyone? know of a decent "Linux Compatible" web cam?
[15:11] <krim> I'm about to install mplayer and aptitude shows me mplayer, mplayer-386, mplayer-586, mplayer-686 and mplayer-amd64 (and a couple more). I'm using 64 bit Ubuntu, so why are all the other there? What's the difference between package mplayer and mplayer-amd64 in my case?
[15:12] <hackeron_> jdo: Philips 900NC
[15:12] <bruenig> !info mplayer-amd64
[15:12] <ubotu> Package mplayer-amd64 does not exist in gutsy
[15:12] <bruenig> hmmm
[15:12] <jdo> hackeron: Thanks
[15:12] <jarle>  If I am running a evms storage group made from two physical devices, is it possible to remove evms but still access the data in the storage group in some other way? As Ubuntu has dropped official support for evms, and it also seems to make my system unbootable sometimes, I am thinking about removing evms. Any help appreciated...
[15:13] <rafal> wht GFX would you buy for good 3d, but preferably open/linux friendly
[15:13] <wols_> rafal: a nvidia card
[15:13] <bach> ???
[15:14] <rafal> wols_: shouldnt we support ATi since it makes drivers free etc?
[15:14] <krim> rafal: Nvidia has ok closed drivers, ATI though has released specs for their cards but that was pretty recently so the open driver isn't good enough yet.
[15:14] <wols_> krim: compiled for different CPUs
[15:15] <wols_> rafal: ati has had shit drivers until now and ALWAYS a sub par opengrl driver
[15:15] <wols_> rafal: if you already know the answer, why do you even ask?
[15:15] <krim> rafal: If you're not going to play games (which I assume you are since you ask for a good one) you should go with Intels integrated card which has free drivers.
[15:15] <bach> ???
[15:16] <hackeron_> Anyone? - I get the following in .xsession-errors and X dies when I startx or login throuh gdm: Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid. This is not supported use of GTK+ .... Refusing to initialize GTK+
[15:16] <wols_> krim: he didn't ask for buying a mobo but for buying a videocard...
[15:16] <wols_> !repeat
[15:16] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[15:16] <krim> wols_: I know, I was just wondering why all of them was on the list and what the difference between mplayer and mplayer-amd64 would be considering I'm using 64 bit ubuntu
[15:16] <bazhang_> jdo: http://www.linux.com/feature/118896
[15:16] <krim> wols_: I know that, I answered him in two parts. Maybe he's buying a new computer, we don't know
[15:17] <jdo> bazhang: Brilliant Thnx
[15:17] <ddonky> how do i know if i have feisty or gutsy?
[15:17] <ndlovu> I have an intel hda sound card, and the volume at max is still quite soft. anyone know how to fix this?
[15:17] <bur[n]er> ndlovu: show all channels and adjust the "front"
[15:17] <bazhang_> jdo: no worries :}
[15:17] <wols_> !version
[15:17] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[15:17] <bur[n]er> ndlovu: is this a dell inspiron 1420n by chance?  i had the same issue with intel hda on it
[15:18] <ndlovu> bur[n]er, there is no "front" option
[15:18] <bur[n]er> ndlovu: you haev to enable the "front"
[15:18] <ndlovu> bur[n]er, no it's an hp nx6310
[15:18] <bur[n]er> ndlovu: double-click volume, edit, preferences
[15:18] <bazhang_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 ndlovu
[15:18] <ndlovu> edit > preferences has everything enabled
[15:19] <ndlovu> (no front option)
[15:19] <ndlovu> bazhang_, I'll look through that, tks for the link
[15:20] <bazhang_> ndlovu: no worries :}
[15:22] <oediv_> I'm running ubuntu dapper with g++ version 4.0.3, however I'm trying to compile festival+speech_tools from source, which somehow breaks with gcc4, can I safely do apt-get install g++-3.4?
[15:22] <wraund>  /68
[15:22] <erUSUL> oediv_: yes you can
[15:23] <wraund> sorry typo
[15:23] <juelz> hello, i wanna change the locales but a "dpkg-reconfigure locales" quits with "Generation complete.". how do i change the locales via the debconf frontend?
[15:23] <nny> can someone tell me what package or packages has the print drivers in it. I have cups, need the extra printer drivers
[15:23] <erUSUL> oediv_: then you do 'make CC=g++-3.4' or something like that
[15:24] <oediv_> I can set CXX=g++34 or something in the speech_tools config file.., I already managed to do that on another system :)
[15:24] <xevil> nny: gimp-print
[15:24] <oediv_> but I was affraid of breaking my system by installing multiple gcc versions
[15:25] <bach> guys, I have another question,why the firestarter can't open sometimes as i have added it in the section?
[15:25] <nny> xevil, thanks
[15:25] <xevil> nny: I think the name was changed to gutenprint
[15:26] <nny> xevil, yeah repos took care of that
[15:27] <Eigen_KKnull> hi boyz
[15:28] <Eigen_KKnull> lol:
[15:28] <Eigen_KKnull> http://ex-periment.1gb.in/
[15:28] <nny> xevil, hmm, printer drivers list is still pretty empty. I installed from the server packages (eee pc) any other driver packages that add support to cups?
[15:28]  * emgent hi
[15:29] <ikonia> nny: cups contains the drivers
[15:30] <nny> ikonia, hmm i only have 4-5 manufacturers when adding the printer, and the HP driver for my officejet isn't listed. On my full install, it has a lot more
[15:30] <NET||abuse> i get udp test failure on dns lookup with smtpdiag,
[15:30] <NET||abuse> Is that normal?
[15:30] <onats> hi, how does ubuntu know which mirror to use when downloading updates? does it use the one based on your current system location, or based on ip address?
[15:31] <ikonia> nny: there is a hp printer package hplp or something like that
[15:31] <ikonia> onats: works it out at install time
[15:31] <ikonia> NET||abuse: it can be
[15:31] <erUSUL> onats: it is in the configuration file for apt
[15:31] <wols_> onats: it uses what's in /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:31] <cheeby> hi.  how do I get flashplayer to work with mozilla?
[15:31] <oediv_> erUSUL: and if I want to have 3.4 as the default version I could just run update-alternatives for it?
[15:31] <onats> how do i reconfigure this? manually edit sources.list?
[15:31] <Lllama> Hello all. Where should I be looking to see which kernel flags were used for boot up?
[15:31] <Pici> onats: You can pick a new/faster mirror using the utility in System>Administration>Software sources.
[15:31] <ikonia> cheeby: install the flash plugin from the ubuntu repos
[15:31] <cheeby> do I need to do the extra repository thing?
[15:31] <ikonia> !flash >cheeby
[15:32] <ikonia> cheeby: see the message from ubotu - it will tell you how to do it
[15:32] <erUSUL> oediv_: yes i think that would work.. (never tried myself)
[15:32] <onats> Pici, thanks! that answers the question!
[15:32] <ikonia> linduxed: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:32] <cheeby> ikonia, gotcha.  this is v. 7.10
[15:32] <ikonia> cheeby: thats fien
[15:32] <ikonia> fine
[15:32] <cheeby> ok, thanks.
[15:33]  * cheeby is coming over from gentoo...
[15:33] <Creationist> What do I need to install to compile source?
[15:33] <linduxed> ikonia: about what?
[15:33] <ikonia> Creationist: build-essential package and any depencencies
[15:33] <ikonia> linduxed: kernel flags
[15:33] <ubuntufreak> When i try to sign the Ubuntu code of conduct in the launchpad it gives me an error (7, 9, 'No public key')
[15:33] <Lllama> ikonia: I think you meant me.
[15:33] <Creationist> ikonia: build-essential is the package I couldn't remember.  Thank you.
[15:33] <ikonia> Lllama: I think you may be right
[15:33] <gary4gar> Pici, how to select faster mirror, currently using for my country but not sure if its the fastest ?
[15:34] <ikonia> gary4gar: try others
[15:34] <hackeron_> Anyone? - I get the following in .xsession-errors and X dies when I startx or login throuh gdm: Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid. This is not supported use of GTK+ .... Refusing to initialize GTK+
[15:34] <Lllama> ikonia: Is there a log showing what was definately used, or is the grub config guarenteed in that respect?
[15:34] <ikonia> Lllama: grub config is %100 spot on
[15:34] <Pici> gary4gar: Theres a button in the Software Sources tool that looks for faster mirrors, I dont remember what exactly its labeled though.
[15:34] <ikonia> hackeron_: something has setuid on it that shouldn't
[15:34] <cheeby> ikonia, ack.  I have x86_64.
[15:35] <NET||abuse> ikonia, so udp isn't usually the dns access method of choice?
[15:35] <linduxed> ive got a grub related problem
[15:35] <oediv_> erUSUL: I'm not sure why, but for any other package I would believe that it wouldn't break anything, for gcc however I'm always careful, because it might break your complete system :S
[15:35] <Woutifier> Hmm, where can I find additional ettercap plugins?
[15:35] <ikonia> cheeby: then there is no official flash plugin, only the free gnash version which isn't really very good
[15:35] <linduxed> appears regardless of distro
[15:35] <wols_> cheeby: then you get problems. nspluginwarapper, running browser in a 32bit chroot, etc
[15:35] <ikonia> NET||abuse: udp isn't normally used for lookups
[15:35] <wols_> ikonia: for DNS?
[15:35] <hackeron_> ikonia: right, how do I reverse that? -- I tried re-installing every gnome and gtk package which didn't help
[15:35] <linduxed> basically, if ive got grub installed i cant see my dvd at all
[15:35] <ikonia> wols_: yes, I know udp is used, but for what NET||abuse is asking its not a problem