[05:52] <drac> Or is people using ubuntu kernels, forced to vesafb?!
[05:52] <dcraven> Ironfrost: there is a wiki page that has what you are talking about too I think --> https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:52] <whiteknight> jojomillan_, so, from the error log GLX is causing X to fail to start, what happens if you comment out GLX
[05:52] <jojomillan_> whiteknight: the module is from the repos - not the installer
[05:52] <topyli> eskaypey: you need to get rid of the gdm symlink in /etc/rc2.d
[05:52] <topyli> eskaypey: use update-rc.d
[05:52] <larsrohdin> Tuxicity, i had Tabs=hidden =)
[05:52] <jojomillan_> whiteknight: i'll try. give me two mins
[05:53] <cusco> Tuxicity: thanks
[05:53] <Tuxicity> larsrohdin, oh i knew something was wrong lol
[05:53] <drac> D'oh, i'll take silency as yes.
[05:53] <drac> :/
[05:53] <Tuxicity> cusco, np
[05:53] <larsrohdin> Tuxicity, but how do i get a new tab like you just did?
[05:53] <bet0x> how i can search for a String on a file and replace them
[05:53] <webtoe> use sed
[05:54] <dcraven> bet0x: sed
[05:54] <eskaypey> what gdm symlink looks like?
[05:54] <topyli> drac: personally, i had to enable the framebuffer separately. ubuntu doesn't use it by default
[05:54] <bet0x> bi want to change "Code version 2.1.2" to "Code version 2.1.7-a"
[05:55] <jojomillan_> whiteknight == personal hero. the drivers are actually running
[05:55] <drac> topyli: Apparently 2.6.10-5-686-smp uses ..
[05:55] <drac> He never loaded it, and now it's fucking his X.
[05:55] <topyli> vga=normal should do it
[05:55] <drac> Hmm.
[05:55] <whiteknight> jojomillan_, no worries, though one question, is this your xorg config? http://pastebin.com/275275
[05:55] <bet0x> any have a example
[05:55] <bet0x> ?
[05:56] <jojomillan_> whiteknight: yes it was. changed a bit now
[05:56] <topyli> eskaypey: you don't care, because you should leave it to update-rc.d
[05:56] <whiteknight> jojomillan_, do you mind posting up your new config, there are a few tweaks probably necessary :)
[05:56] <topyli> eskaypey: i forget the command, look it up in the update-rc.d man page
[05:57] <jojomillan_> whiteknight: with pleasure
[05:57] <jojomillan_> whiteknight: http://pastebin.com/275290
[05:58] <drac> jojomillan_: I'm not sure what are you talking about, but remove following modules from xorg.conf to get better performancy with your nvidia card: bitmap, GLcore, ddc, vbe, int10, record. They are slowing the drivers down. Also, change ImPS/2 to ExplorerPS/2 and your mouse moves lot smoother.
[05:58] <dcraven> bet0x: sed -e "s/searchword/replaceword/" filename >> filename.temp
[05:58] <drac> jojomillan_: Changing those, will increase your FPS.
[05:58] <bet0x> ok
[05:58] <whiteknight> jojomillan_, firstly you want to comment out dri, both in the Module section and the DRI section at the end
[05:59] <whiteknight> jojomillan_, nvidia drivers don't (i seem to remember) use dri
[05:59] <dcraven> bet0x: that will create a new file called filename.temp with the changes you want... Check it first, and backup your original in case something goes wrong.
[05:59] <drac> jojomillan_: Indeed, get rid of dri too.
[06:00] <jojomillan_> okay....
[06:00] <drac> topyli: Anyway, thanks for the tip, i'll tell him to try it.
[06:01] <bet0x> dcraven, and how i do with dirs and subdirs
[06:01] <jojomillan_> drac: i doubt i have 3d-acceleration, as i commented glx out. what can i do about that?
[06:01] <ManLord> how to start Kate as root? i try sudo kate but it doesn't launch.. and i cant even launch it later
[06:01] <topyli> eskaypey: basename is gdm in this case
[06:01] <eskaypey> update-rc.d --force <basename> remove what is the basename?
[06:02] <topyli> why force?
[06:02] <eskaypey> or not really?
[06:02] <eskaypey> or nothing?
[06:02] <cusco> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:02] <cusco>   libavcodeccvs: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed
[06:02] <cusco>                  Depends: libpostproc0 (>= 2:20050417-0.0) but it is not going to be installed
[06:02] <cusco> E: Broken packages
[06:02] <jojomillan_> whiteknight: glxgears doesn't work now of course. but i'm still a lot happier than earlier on!
[06:02] <whiteknight> jojomillan_, try and uncomment glx, and see what happens...
[06:02] <cusco> what do I do?
[06:03] <topyli> eskaypey: i'd say update-rc.d remove gdm i guess
[06:03] <eskaypey> k i'll try that
[06:03] <topyli> you read the man page, i didn't :)
[06:04] <maylar> i gotta say ubuntu was the only distro to get my nic working before a full install. (useing an older Dell D233ST lappy) just have one problem if anyone thinks they can help
[06:05] <jojomillan_> whiteknight: uncommenting glx does the following: http://pastebin.com/275292
[06:05] <nikls> olorin; did not work
[06:06] <whiteknight> jojomillan_, what debs did you install?
[06:06] <olorin> nikls: ahhh :(
[06:06] <kanuha> ManLord, I just use kedit
[06:07] <kanuha> I had the same prpblem
[06:07] <jojomillan_> whiteknight: nvidia-glx; nvidia-kernel-common; nvidia-settings
[06:08] <kanuha> simple question, I hope. How do I make the Kmenu transparent? I made the taskbar transparent, but don't see an option to make the menu transparent. I thought I had done this before.
[06:09] <iSteve> Greetings ... I've been told that during installation, Ubuntu checks out for installed systems and prepares proper menu for grub ... I wonder, how? How does it check what is there? Where can I find sources for this rather remarkable feature?
[06:09] <dcraven> bet0x: something like this might work --> "for i in `find ./mydir -type f`; do sed -e "s/searchword/replaceword/" $i >> ${i}.temp; done"
[06:09] <dcraven> bet0x: I'd test it first, and there are probably other ways.
[06:10] <vince_> can anyone give me a hand?  i'm trying to compile something on ubuntu, and it keeps erroring out at the same place though i'm not sure what i'm missing
[06:10] <whiteknight> jojomillan_, is your card pci or agp?
[06:10] <vince_> checking for MD5 in -lcrypto... no
[06:10] <vince_> configure: error: libCrypto is required by tmsnc
[06:11] <jojomillan_> whiteknight: agp. geforce fx
[06:11] <webtoe> vince_: have you got libcrpto installed?
[06:11] <vince_> i have both the libcrypto++ and openssl libraries installed (which has libcrypto)
[06:11] <whiteknight> jojomillan_, is agp module loaded?
[06:11] <jojomillan_> whiteknight: nvidia_agp and agpgart are loaded, yes
[06:12] <vince_> webtoe, in /usr/lib, i have libcrypto.so.0.9.7
[06:12] <webtoe> you need to install the libcrypto-dev pacakage as well
[06:12] <abiertos> hello it's me again
[06:12] <whiteknight> jojomillan_, then i'm not sure why glx isn't working
[06:12] <abiertos> Lunitik help me!
[06:12] <webtoe> vince_, then it will work
[06:12] <jojomillan_> whiteknight: me neither :-)
[06:12] <abiertos> Linux Jones
[06:12] <webtoe> vince_, sorry libcrypto++-dev
[06:12] <vince_> webtoe, but it doesn't for some strange reason
[06:12] <vince_> yup, have the dev installed too
[06:13] <abiertos> I tried to recovery my root password
[06:13] <abiertos> but I failed
[06:13] <webtoe> vince_: well the only thing i can suggest then if you're sure its installed is to try and specify to the configure script of the program your compiling where the library is
[06:13] <Hoxzer> how can I lock In as a root in gnome?
[06:13] <abiertos> I need help
[06:14] <resiak> Hoxzer: Don't.
[06:14] <webtoe> vince_: you could try running /sbin/ldconfig but i assume the package installation would run that
[06:14] <whiteknight> jojomillan_, i have a strange idea, try default depth as 16 with glx uncommented
[06:14] <Hoxzer> I need to be able to edit that conf file
[06:14] <resiak> Hoxzer: So run your text editor with sudo
[06:14] <graw> Need help: windows ntfs partition can only be accessed via shell but not from the graphical interface
[06:14] <vince_> webtoe, yeah, i ran the ldconfig too thinking it might be the problem.. i just created a symbolic link from libcrypto.so.0.9.7 to libcrypto.so to see if that will work, hang on
[06:15] <jojomillan_> whiteknight: not a bad idea. brb
[06:15] <resiak> Hoxzer: Don't /msg me
[06:15] <abiertos> I need help, I want to recovery my root password
[06:15] <resiak> Hoxzer: IIRC, you can right-click a file in Nautilus and say "edit as root". I may be wrong, though. Alternatively, Alt-F2, sudo gedit
[06:15] <resiak> abiertos: Remember me?
[06:15] <abiertos> yes
[06:15] <resiak> abiertos: What went wrong?
[06:16] <abiertos> I did that you told me
[06:16] <abiertos> but there's a problem
[06:16] <vince_> webtoe, well, that worked, but now it's stopping at openssl, which I do have installed.. dammit :(
[06:16] <abiertos> I logged like a root
[06:17] <jojomillan> whiteknight: no good :-(
[06:17] <abiertos> but I can to change the root password
[06:17] <dws> newbie question: i just did a default install of hoary hedgehog. was is supposed to give me the option of changing the root password? or is that something that i only get by installed a server?
[06:17] <graw> Need help: windows ntfs partition can only be accessed via shell but not from the graphical interface
[06:17] <whiteknight> jojomillan, then sorry, the only option is to install the driver via the nvidia installer
[06:17] <abiertos> there are modules that no load when you use init=/bin/sh
[06:17] <Raskall> hmm.. are there any know problems with nfs over wlan? When I copy files over nfs the machine hangs a lot of processes, but over samba it works just fine.
[06:17] <jojomillan> whiteknight: no matter. you were a great help-. thanks
[06:17] <whiteknight> jojomillan, i don't personally have a nvidia, i run ubuntu on an ibook with a ati card ::)
[06:17] <jago25_98> Guys I hope you can help me because I can't use anything other than xchat. All my partitions on my IDE drive are listed as 0 bytes left by df and yet the space used is smaller than the overall space! fsck -pa didn't help!
[06:17] <resiak> abiertos: What went wrong?
[06:18] <abiertos> you can login like a root with that way
[06:18] <jojomillan> whiteknight: i'm not a fan of ati myself. and i can't afford an ibook!
[06:18] <graw> dws: you can by doing:     sudo passwd root      than entering your own password
[06:18] <resiak> abiertos: What's so hard about prefixing what you say with my name? I'll be less likely to wander off without helping you if you do.
[06:18] <whiteknight> jojomillan, yeah but there aren't any good drivers for ati cards on ppc
[06:18] <abiertos> but all files just have read permission
[06:18] <dws> graw: thanks
[06:18] <whiteknight> jojomillan, good luck though
[06:18] <abiertos> I can't do nothing
[06:19] <jojomillan> whiteknight: cheers
[06:19] <resiak> abiertos: So you do what I said and remount your root filesystem read-write. mount -o remount,rw /
[06:19] <hans_> i have gaim instant messenger started with msn protocol but i cant receive live webcam from my buddies. isnt that supported in ubuntu?
[06:19] <FR500> hello
[06:19] <resiak> hans_: The short answer is "no".
[06:19] <FR500> is it complicated to make the console look like the one in gentoo livecd? with the nifty background and everything
[06:19] <abiertos> ok
[06:20] <resiak> abiertos: Please, _please_, start things you say to me with "resiak: ".
[06:20] <dws> graw: except that passwd wants the current root passwd, which install didn't give me
[06:20] <hans_> is there another program to receive live webcam from buddies
[06:20] <resiak> hans_: gaim-vv, but it doesn't work yet.
[06:20] <abiertos> what?
[06:20] <graw> dws: No it asks you for your OWN password.
[06:21] <XplOzIon> how can i remove the orphan packages?
[06:21] <dws> graw: d'oh. thanks again.
[06:22] <graw> graw: type " sudo passwd root" Then it asks  for your OWN password
[06:22] <graw> dws: type " sudo passwd root" Then it asks  for your OWN password
[06:23] <resiak> abiertos: Please don't /msg me. Talk to me in here.
[06:23] <abiertos> ok
[06:23] <jojomillan> whiteknight: does an xdpyinfo show any sign of GLX on your box?
[06:23] <abiertos> tell me what can I do
[06:23] <graw> NEED HELP: windows ntfs partition can only be accessed via shell but not from the graphical interface
[06:23] <malte`> how do i start esd on xfce's startup?
[06:24] <abiertos> that way just let you manage the files in  read only mode
[06:24] <whiteknight> jojomillan, yup, why
[06:24] <whiteknight> ?
[06:24] <Hoxzer> Resiak?
[06:24] <resiak> abiertos: Firstly, prefix what you say to me on IRC with "resiak: " like I prefix talking to you with "abiertos: ". Secondly, read what I tell you.
[06:24] <resiak> Hoxzer: Yes?
[06:24] <abiertos> ok
[06:24] <Hoxzer> so how do I open that Nautilus?
[06:24] <resiak> abiertos: Once you have used init=/bin/sh and you get a root shell, things are read-only. So you run mount -o remount,rw / to remount your root partition read-write. Then you can use passwd to change the password.
[06:25] <jojomillan> whiteknight: i have NV-GLX which isn't enough according to nvidia. my guess is, that a symlink or file is missing on my machine
[06:25] <abiertos> if my root partition is hda1 I have to put
[06:25] <jojomillan> whiteknight: probably libglx.so
[06:26] <resiak> abiertos: You put _exactly_ what I just said.
[06:26] <abiertos> resiak: mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda1?
[06:26] <resiak> abiertos: You could, or you can write mount -o remount,rw /
[06:26] <whiteknight> jojomillan, yes, you will have a different version perhaps, nvidia stick their own in the doc file for some reason
[06:26] <whiteknight> jojomillan, something like, /usr/doc/nvidia-glx
[06:27] <Hoxzer> soo.... hoow?
[06:27] <abiertos> ok
[06:27] <whiteknight> jojomillan, this is all from memory when i use to use the driver over a year ago but apart from that i can't remember
[06:27] <resiak> abiertos: Oh, and thanks for the prefix :)
[06:27] <dockane> is there a good printing dialogue i can install for x?  i don't like no one of the offered: gimp, xpdf, OOo. all are different but nothing does it job as i expect
[06:27] <abiertos> resiak: please forgive me! :P
[06:28] <resiak> abiertos: S'cool.
[06:28] <abiertos> resiak: bye
[06:28] <jojomillan> whiteknight: looks like i'm missing a file. no solution found though  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7906.html
[06:28] <abiertos> resiak:I'll try the new tech
[06:29] <BurgerMann> lo :)
[06:29] <whiteknight> jojomillan, use the nvidia installer
[06:29] <hans_> bye @ all
[06:29] <whiteknight> jojomillan, i think it'll solve a lot of problems
[06:29] <IIIEars> Hello! - Help! my root partition is shown mounted as an ordinary disk on the desktop after installing samba - how do i fix this?
[06:29] <BurgerMann> how do I browse a network computer :?
[06:29] <olorin> nikls: so ?
[06:29] <Kartagis> how can I skip already installed packages with apt-get?
[06:29] <bet0x> how i can play quicktime trailers on mozilla?
[06:30] <IIIEars> Burgermon - on a local windows network?
[06:30] <BurgerMann> lol
[06:30] <BurgerMann> lots of Qs
[06:30] <XplOzIon> how can i remove the orphan packages?
[06:30] <BurgerMann> IIIEars,  nah two linux machines, both with kde desktop environment
[06:31] <ManLord> PROBLEM: can't get translucency to work | Can anyone help? | Please?
[06:31] <kingsley> Where's a version of fdisk that will put a Windows 98 compatible partition a 165GB hard drive?
[06:31] <sig> XplOzIon: next time you remove a package and want orphan packages that are depended by that certain package do: apt-get remove --purge packagename
[06:31] <IIIEars> norris_, just swap and root - i am a bit worried.
[06:31] <bad_mongo> How do I make other machines see this ubuntu machine, using samba?
[06:31] <XplOzIon> sig, is ther a way to remove all of em at once?
[06:32] <sig> XplOzIon: with that command
[06:32] <sig> XplOzIon: what are you trying to remove?
[06:32] <Delph> sig: ooh, purge does orphan packages as well? I thought it just did config files.
[06:32] <djm62> bad_mongo: System->Administration->Shared Folders
[06:32] <sig> Delph: you may be right, I'm looking at man apt now
[06:33] <membreya> what's the command to create a system user? such as FTP ?
[06:33] <djm62> aptitude manages orphans better, IIRC
[06:33] <sig> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html  3.3 Removing pakcages
[06:33] <bad_mongo> djm62, I have added some folder there, but others can't see them
[06:33] <XplOzIon> sig, thanks
[06:33] <djm62> bad_mongo: are you using the same "workgroup name"?
[06:34] <IIIEars> bad_mongo - there is a decent explanation in the ubuntu forums - tho - you might end up where i am now your root parttion is shown mounted on the desk - I am guessing that this _ISN'T- supposed to happen - loll
[06:34] <djm62> bad_mongo: typically MSHOME
[06:34] <Delph> sig: not very helpful, is it?
[06:34] <Delph> --purge -- instead of removing, packages are purged.... BUT WHAT IS PURGING???!!11111oneoneone
[06:34] <resiak> Delph: Hi.
[06:34] <Delph> ah, but dpkg has it.
[06:34] <Delph> resiak: hihi =:0
[06:35] <sig> Delph: it is
[06:35] <bad_mongo> djm62, I use mshome.. but should I use WINS server?
[06:35] <sig> 3.6 Removing unused package files: apt-get clean and autoclean
[06:35] <IIIEars> purgeing is what you do after a "binge" of package installations? - grin
[06:36] <sig> IIIEars: hah
[06:36] <djm62> bad_mongo: unsure...
[06:36] <dockane> is there any recommandation for a good printing/preview dialogue ? i am looking for somehting like the acrobat reader for window$ offers where i can add an option like " do not touch the page format" for printing pdfs
[06:36] <sig> dockane: acroread-plugin
[06:36] <sig> http://ubuntuguide.org/#acroread
[06:36] <sig> works well for me
[06:36] <sig> sudo apt-get install acroread
[06:37] <sig> sudo apt-get install mozilla-acroread
[06:37] <dockane> sig, does not bring this option for printing like the win version
[06:37] <BurgerMann> harley luja
[06:37] <graw> Need help: windows ntfs partition can only be accessed via shell but not from the graphical interface
[06:37] <sig> dockane: print preview?
[06:37] <SeeleyUSMC> Anyone here use wine to work with programs installed on their windows partitions?
[06:37] <IIIEars> ah well - having my root partition shown as mounted on the desk makes me nervous. (my poor windows machines are nearly defenseless and anemic)
[06:37] <sig> SeeleyUSMC: what unit are you with?
[06:38] <SeeleyUSMC> sig: 3/7
[06:38] <dockane> sig, yes with "don't touch the page format" (<- poor translation from german)
[06:38] <sig> I was 1/5
[06:38] <sig> 0331
[06:38] <SeeleyUSMC> sig: me too :)
[06:38] <SeeleyUSMC> Oorah machineguns
[06:38] <] BreliC[> ahh, finally got tmsnc compiled and working
[06:38] <sig> nice
[06:39] <IIIEars> Another HUGE "THANK YOU" to the Ubuntu for their wonderful work! :)
[06:39] <SeeleyUSMC> sig: Ever been to leatherneck.com ?
[06:39] <sig> SeeleyUSMC: yes
[06:39] <FR500> is it complicated to make the console look like the one in gentoo livecd? with the nifty background and everything
[06:40] <IIIEars> SeeleyUSMC - I gave it a try - It always corrupted my display settings.
[06:41] <IIIEars> gentoo ugh! (pops two aspirin)
[06:42] <sig> FR500: linux is linux.... if gentoo can do it, it can be done in any other linux distro
[06:42] <drcoded> Hi all
[06:43] <topyli> FR500: dunno, but many livecds have nice consoles
[06:43] <IIIEars> (rexamines the possibility of being a Ubuntu zealot..) - lol
[06:43] <drcoded> any one can help me with shorewall?
[06:43] <drcoded> I dont know why I can't go to internet
[06:43] <doogies> hi all
[06:43] <drcoded> I did policy,zones.interfaces
[06:43] <drcoded> but still computer B can't get into the internet
[06:43] <IIIEars> drcoded, - what are you seeing?
[06:44] <wbeck81> you appear to be able to connect to irc
[06:44] <drcoded> I can ping to <IP_ADDRESS>  but not outside
[06:44] <drcoded> for some how it dosnt forware the packges into internet
[06:45] <IIIEars> drcoded, - did you enable DNS for network sharing? - (dumb question i know you almost certainly have.)
[06:45] <jhaig> I'm having a problem with my keyboard and mouse in Gnome in 5.04.  I asked here a couple of days ago but got no answer, so I'm trying again.  Often (but not always) when I log into Gnome there appears to be a very fast auto-repeat on the keyboard and mouse.  When clicking on the menus I have to keep the button pressed or the menu disappears immediately and typing is impossible as several characters appear for each keypress.
[06:45] <drcoded> I have DHCP for internet
[06:45] <drcoded> DNS for network share
[06:45] <drcoded> I use the DNS of my ISP in computer B
[06:45] <FR500> drcoded, i don't know about shorewall, but firestarter is way to go
[06:45] <jhaig> This only happens with Gnome - I can log in with the failsafe terminal OK.  Any ideas?
[06:46] <FR500> drcoded, it's very easy
[06:46] <topyli> drcoded: i messed with shorewall for a wile back in the day. ended up configuring iptables with firestarter. took 2 minutes
[06:46] <djm62> jhaig: have you tried System->Preferences->Keyboard/Mouse ?
[06:46] <holycow> jhaig, have you tried a diferent kb maybe?
[06:46] <drcoded> firestater is easy then shoerwall?
[06:46] <FR500> drcoded, easier than windows ICS
[06:46] <IIIEars> drcoded, - the interface asks if you want to enable your machine as a gateway on the second interface and then you plug in  the other computers to the back of it.
[06:47] <FR500> drcoded, easier than zonealarm
[06:47] <jhaig> djm62: I've tried keyboard settings, but anyway it is a problem from a clean install and new user, so I doubt it is a settings problem.
[06:47] <topyli> drcoded: it's a wizard that asks you if you want to open something, if you want nat, if you want dhcp and that's it
[06:47] <jhaig> holycow: I haven't tried that, but I will do.
[06:47] <drcoded> I dont have gui  , console only
[06:47] <topyli> ah
[06:47] <djm62> jhaig: have you googled your keyboard in case it's a common problem?
[06:47] <holycow> jhaig, i know it's dumb, just hoping maybe that you didn't overlook in frustration, i know how it is
[06:48] <holycow> jhaig, i haven't seen this issue ever, and chances are no one else has either here since you didn't get an answer
[06:48] <IIIEars> << Firestarter for debian - shorewall is for resource stingy servers
[06:48] <serfurj> what does the "+" mean in ndiswrapper-source 0.12+1.0rc2-1?
[06:49] <djm62> O E M ubuntu
[06:50] <topyli> IIIEars: well, stingy servers are often debian :)
[06:50] <holycow> djm62, why, thats not a bad idea indeedy :)
[06:50] <holycow> haha
[06:50] <graw> can someone help me?
[06:50] <holycow> ya when hell freezes over
[06:50] <olorin> jhaig: did ou try to change your keyboard ?
[06:50] <iSteve> lol
[06:51] <iSteve> dells with preinstalled ubuntu or debian
[06:51] <LinuxJones> graw, what's wrong ?
[06:51] <iSteve> yea sure, and satan will be skating to work
[06:51] <holycow> iSteve, hehe, skating, thats a good one :)
[06:51] <iSteve> unfortunately not mine
[06:52] <Plexys> is there a GUI to manage running services on your system?
[06:53] <LinuxJones> Plexys, not at present
[06:53] <Plexys> ok thanks, linuxjones
[06:53] <holycow> Plexys, mostly because a: its trivial to do via command line
[06:53] <holycow> and b: you wouldn't gain anything from a gui
[06:53] <flodine> are backports need guys
[06:54] <LinuxJones> Plexys, you could probably install something like webmin to help out with basic stuff though I suspect
[06:54] <Plexys> okay, then how do i see all running services?
[06:54] <holycow> Plexys, sudo /etc/init.d/service start/stop/restart is easy enough
[06:54] <Plexys> i have that installed
[06:54] <Tuxicity> floater, no dont put the backports is your repos
[06:54] <LinuxJones> Plexys, ps -aux
[06:54] <flodine> do i need backport in my repository
[06:54] <flodine> thxs
[06:54] <LinuxJones> Plexys, you can use lsof -i or netstat to see network services running
[06:54] <Tuxicity> flodine, np
[06:54] <jhaig> New keyboard and still the same problem.
[06:55] <resiak> holycow: Is gnome-system-tools in Ubuntu?
[06:56] <holycow> resiak, yep
[06:56] <resiak> holycow: So there's your gui right there.
[06:56] <resiak> holycow: Oh, wait, it doesn't have a runlevel bit. Sorry :)
[06:56] <holycow> for services?
[06:56] <LinuxJones> resiak, it's not complete
[06:56] <membreya> who here has successfully establish anon FTP with wu-ftpd?
[06:56] <holycow> :)
[06:56] <abiertos> resiak: thanks a lot for help me
[06:56] <holycow> LinuxJones, thats an interesting point, gst would be the right place for it *hmmm*
[06:56] <resiak> abiertos: Did you win?
[06:56] <graw> LinuxJones : windows ntfs partition can only be accessed via shell but not from the graphical interface
[06:57] <abiertos> resiak:finally I can enjoy the pleasure to be run
[06:57] <resiak> abiertos: \o/
[06:57] <LinuxJones> graw, have you checked out www.ubuntuguide.org ?
[06:57] <abiertos> resiak:to be root
[06:57] <abiertos> resiak: I'm not won
[06:58] <abiertos> resiak: you won, thanks a lot
[06:58] <resiak> abiertos: Hey, whatever. I learnt how to do that on IRC too :-)
[06:58] <LinuxJones> holycow, they are going to write a Graphical Services manager for the Breezy release
[06:58] <abiertos> resiak: ok
[06:58] <holycow> LinuxJones, no shit?
[06:59] <holycow> ha! cool
[06:59] <membreya> with Wu-FTPD, my anon user can login ok, but can't see any of the directories....
[06:59] <abiertos> resiak: can I download /etc/sudoers file from apt-get
[06:59] <abiertos> resiak:?
[06:59] <resiak> abiertos: Did you remove it?
[06:59] <thechitowncubs> Is there an audio player that automatically checks for new music in my folder? Or a playlist generator? Something of that nature
[07:00] <resiak> abiertos: I'll have to leave it up to the rest of the channel to help you with that, I'm afraid.
[07:00] <LinuxJones> holycow, I would like to get it started but there are alot of underlying issues that I don't fully understand with regards to debian's packaging system.
[07:00] <graw> LinuxJones : I mounted thge partition and added the hda1 (ntfs) line to fstab
[07:00] <jhaig> Anyway, if it were a keyboard problem then it wouldn't just affect Gnome, would it?
[07:00] <ShaneAu> hey
[07:00] <seth_slackware> hey
[07:00] <LinuxJones> graw, I don't have any windows boxes so I can't really help dude sorry :(
[07:01] <holycow> LinuxJones, like what? deb is simple from what i can tell
[07:01] <ShaneAu> Why does everything seem slughish and slow (gui)
[07:01] <abiertos> resiak:ok
[07:01] <resiak> abiertos: All the best.
[07:01] <holycow> LinuxJones, the hard part to me seems more the 'paperwork' in the process rather than the actual packaging?
[07:01] <ShaneAu> Like refersh rate really low, you move a window across the screen and yuo see a trail for a while
[07:01] <ShaneAu> It's horrible
[07:01] <abiertos> resiak:I restored it now
[07:01] <LinuxJones> holycow, it's got to do with how dpkg updates the system when it installs the service.
[07:02] <thechitowncubs> rhythm box is really buggy
[07:02] <holycow> LinuxJones, speaking of guis, thats one thing i wouldn't mind having a gui for :)
[07:02] <babylon> how can i force to close the frozen applications
[07:02] <LinuxJones> holycow, yeah it's something that most other distros have :)
[07:03] <thechitowncubs> wow, its really buggy
[07:03] <ShaneAu> Anyone?
[07:03] <ShaneAu> It's the main thing that annoys me about Linux :p
[07:04] <ShaneAu> So maybe I can fix it?
[07:04] <thechitowncubs> ShaneAu: specs
[07:05] <ShaneAu> P4 1.7 GHz, 512 MB ram, NVIDIA TNT2 graphics card
[07:05] <thechitowncubs> how much memory in the gfx card?
[07:05] <ShaneAu> 64 MB
[07:05] <thechitowncubs> k
[07:05] <thechitowncubs> Are you using Gnome?
[07:05] <ShaneAu> I used it with Windows for many years, lol
[07:06] <ShaneAu> yep
[07:07] <SeeleyUSMC> grr...dreamweaver mx doesn't seem to like wine
[07:07] <ShaneAu> Dragging windows shows it the most
[07:07] <thechitowncubs> Ok... try using the simple theme
[07:07] <ShaneAu> Seeing the trail of the window
[07:07] <SeeleyUSMC> and thats the only program I'd really like to use from windows...that and Quicken
[07:07] <thegreedyturtle> ShaneAu - do you have your video card drivers installed?
[07:08] <thechitowncubs> system>prefrences>theme
[07:08] <ShaneAu> Simple theme seems better, still kinda slugish
[07:08] <ShaneAu> no, I havn't
[07:08] <ShaneAu> But I'm downloading them now
[07:08] <thegreedyturtle> that's why ;)
[07:08] <holycow> SeeleyUSMC, check into crossover office
[07:08] <thechitowncubs> ya... nvidia drivers improve it A LOT
[07:08] <ShaneAu> Oh ok
[07:08] <ShaneAu> I'll give it a go
[07:08] <SeeleyUSMC> holycow: but that costs $... :(
[07:08] <thechitowncubs> same w/ windows
[07:08] <ShaneAu> they are done downloading
[07:08] <thechitowncubs> my windows sucked without the drivers
[07:09] <holycow> SeeleyUSMC, yep, so does dreamweaver and quicken
[07:09] <thegreedyturtle> VESA drivers blow (the default drivers)
[07:09] <ShaneAu> Ahr ok :)
[07:10] <thechitowncubs> Quicken needs a linux version... and I wish apple would make Itunes compatible with linux (would it be hard to port since mac os x runs off unix)
[07:10] <thechitowncubs> ?
[07:11] <holycow> thechitowncubs, no, but bot apple and quicken are notoriously stingy in the cross platform dev stuff
[07:11] <dennis_> server rinet.msk.wenet.ru
[07:11] <ShaneAu> ok I gotta exit X first
[07:11] <dennis_> \server rinet.msk.wenet.ru
[07:11] <thegreedyturtle> i know there's some itunes stuff for linux
[07:11] <ShaneAu> This is like my main time using Linux at home, so yeah... kinda embarrising, but how do I exit X ? :p
[07:11] <holycow> qucken infact stopped making their business version because they werent making enough sales, so linux version i'm certain isnot on their radar
[07:11] <ShaneAu> Just shutdown/.
[07:11] <ShaneAu> ?>
[07:11] <thegreedyturtle> shutdown -r 0
[07:11] <ShaneAu> :)
[07:11] <ShaneAu> Thanks
[07:11] <thegreedyturtle> shutdown -r(estart) 0(seconds)
[07:11] <holycow> exit x? you mean to command line?
[07:11] <thegreedyturtle> use -h for halt
[07:11] <dennis_> shutdown -r now
[07:12] <ShaneAu> yes
[07:12] <plexxus> Hey! Its my first time with linux and ubuntu... is there a driver for nvidia graficcards available?
[07:12] <thegreedyturtle> yus
[07:12] <ShaneAu> Wow
[07:12] <holycow> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm quit
[07:12] <ShaneAu> plexxus,
[07:12] <ShaneAu> Are you seriouse?
[07:12] <thegreedyturtle> huh?
[07:12] <ShaneAu> Sounds like me
[07:12] <holycow> plexxus, its on the ubuntu website
[07:12] <holycow> plexxus, i mean the info for installing it
[07:12] <plexxus> oh.. :)
[07:12] <ShaneAu> I JUST downloaded http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7174.html
[07:13] <ShaneAu> But that's for TNT2
[07:13] <thegreedyturtle> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/Official_nVidia
[07:13] <ShaneAu> anyways
[07:13] <ShaneAu> I'll be back
[07:13] <plexxus> ive got a nvidia gforce 4 ti 4600
[07:13] <holycow> ShaneAu, just read the ubuntu website
[07:13] <holycow> the install instructions are there
[07:13] <plexxus> do i have to install special?
[07:13] <ShaneAu> Wow, so they are.. :)
[07:13] <holycow> don't use the nvidia installer crap, it will install stuff everywhere and bypass dpkg
[07:14] <ShaneAu> good stuff
[07:14] <thegreedyturtle> http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[07:14] <thegreedyturtle> it's easiest to use apt to get nvidia-glx
[07:14] <thegreedyturtle> you should definitely get nvidia-settings too
[07:15] <ShaneAu> ok too many options now
[07:15] <plexxus> thanx all
[07:15] <ShaneAu> :s
[07:15] <plexxus> ive installed some nvidia stuff with the paket manager in gnome
[07:15] <plexxus> glx and settigs.. yes
[07:15] <plexxus> but i cant change the resolution
[07:15] <thegreedyturtle> apt is the command line version of Synaptic Package Manager
[07:15] <ShaneAu> holycow, you say don't use the nvidia installer, but the ubuntu site says to
[07:16] <ShaneAu> now
[07:16] <holycow> plexxus, the second part of config is giving x the correct horizontal and vertical refresh rates, those determine resolution possibilities for your monitor
[07:16] <thegreedyturtle> plexxus: you have to make sure that the resolutions in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf are there
[07:16] <thegreedyturtle> plexxus: be sure and back up that xorg.conf first, i made that mistake recently...
[07:16] <holycow> plexxus, google your monitor for refresh rates and put them in the file thegreedyturtle pointed to
[07:17] <plexxus> i know the refresh rates ...
[07:17] <plexxus> there is no tool available for edit conf files..
[07:17] <plexxus> openoffice maybe?
[07:18] <holycow> lots of tools
[07:18] <ManLord> gedit kate kedit
[07:18] <holycow> open up a shell from apps/syttems/terminal
[07:18] <holycow> type sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:18] <stevenj> can someone tell me why no Gnome Icon theme will replace the freak'n volume in the gnome panel?
[07:18] <plexxus> (sry for this question.. but iam new to linux and ubuntu).. a friendy gave me a cd where he puts the newest ubuntu on it..
[07:19] <holycow> stevenj, what do you mean exactly?
[07:19] <holycow> plexxus, thats okay we're happy to answer provided your happy to do the work
[07:19] <thegreedyturtle> plexxus: you don't have to apologize! are you talking about the live cd?
[07:19] <plexxus> no.. no live cd..
[07:19] <thegreedyturtle> ok
[07:19] <plexxus> ive installed ubuntu on my harddisc
[07:19] <plexxus> he gave me the installation cd..
[07:19] <plexxus> installation was easy..
[07:20] <thegreedyturtle> just checking ;) cuz it's hard to actually save your xorg to a cd!
[07:20] <stevenj> holycow, I am using milk 2.1 and gnome-apple icons...for some reason the icon for the volume (right beside the time-upper right corner) will not change...I have tried many icon themes that I know is suppose to change it
[07:20] <plexxus> but.. now i do not know how to get a grafics driver installed
[07:20] <ivo_> hello guys
[07:20] <plexxus> hey ivo
[07:20] <ivo_> how do you put ubuntu in standby (to ram)??
[07:20] <burner> plexxus, what kinda card?
[07:20] <ivo_> i only see the hibernating option!!
[07:20] <ShaneAu> humm
[07:20] <ShaneAu> errors about cc
[07:20] <ShaneAu> gcc
[07:20] <thegreedyturtle> here, do it this way, you won't need to deal with that download you got from nvidia: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[07:21] <FR500> hmmmm doing the framebuffer console was real easy
[07:21] <thegreedyturtle> you'll just use apt to download it
[07:21] <FR500> there are debs for it :P
[07:21] <plexxus> burner, g4 ti 4600
[07:21] <holycow> stevenj, thats because the theme doesn't have icons for that widget set ... i think?
[07:21] <ivo_> how do you put ubuntu in standby (to ram)??
[07:21] <ivo_> how do you put ubuntu in standby (to ram)??
[07:21] <plexxus> burner, im completely new to linux..
[07:21] <server> ivo..thats annoying
[07:21] <ivo_> ow sorry, double post
[07:21] <FR500> ivo_, locate standby.sh
[07:21] <FR500> and run it
[07:21] <ivo_> okay
[07:21] <holycow> stevenj, don't forget milk was developed on older versions of gnome, hoary uses 2.10, maybe the theme needs some adjusting for it?
[07:22] <burner> plexxus, see what thegreedyturtle posted about ubuntuguide
[07:22] <thegreedyturtle> plexxus: go System -> Synaptic Package Manager, then run a search for nVidia, and marke for install nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings
[07:22] <plexxus> plexxus, yeah.. i am reading now
[07:22] <thegreedyturtle> hokay nm then :)
[07:22] <holycow> plexxus, well welcome to linux then, some things are harde, a lot of other things are easier, hopefully  you have  fun :)
[07:22] <plexxus> burner, i am reading now :D
[07:22] <burner> heh
[07:22] <ShaneAu> I'm doing it with apt-get now :)
[07:22] <burner> good luck plexxus
[07:22] <ShaneAu> So far it's looking good
[07:22] <thegreedyturtle> my apt has super COW powers...
[07:22] <plexxus> holycow, thanks! i know that some things are new to me...
[07:23] <stevenj> holycow, I see...thanks..any idea where I can start poking around? :)
[07:23] <plexxus> holycow, one thing is.. a friend told me that i have do recompile my kernel with the nvidia drivers.. but i dont know how..
[07:23] <burner> plexxus, nah... shouldn't have to recompile
[07:23] <stevenj> holycow, or do you know of an updated milk theme (besides clearlooks :) )
[07:23] <holycow> stevenj, best i can do for ya is google and emailing the theme author :) sorry
[07:24] <stevenj> holycow, thanks
[07:24] <holycow> plexxus, no, hehe
[07:24] <burner> stevenj, gnome-look.org ?  search around
[07:24] <holycow> plexxus, you don't recompile kernels with debian/ubuntu
[07:24] <thegreedyturtle> sure you do, but you shouldn't have to
[07:24] <holycow> you can if you want but ... the point of using debian is that  you don't haveto, pretty well everything is builtin and modular
[07:24] <thegreedyturtle> and if you do have to, avoid it XD
[07:24] <holycow> thegreedyturtle, no you don't shutup, hes a newb
[07:24] <holycow> :)
[07:24] <thegreedyturtle> hahahaha
[07:25] <thegreedyturtle> you still gotta compile openMoxix
[07:25] <holycow> plexxus, heres a neat experiment you can do:
[07:25] <thegreedyturtle> Mosix*
[07:25] <plexxus> holycow, i dont know how to compile something in linux..
[07:25] <holycow> install ubuntu/debian on an hd, then plug into any desktop you like
[07:25] <holycow> it will work 9/10
[07:25] <thegreedyturtle> plexxus: don't listen to me im being facesious
[07:25] <holycow> the only thing you will have problems getting going is x server, but thats becaus x server is still 'catching' up to where it should be, it's development stalled for a long time
[07:25] <plexxus> holycow, ubuntu is still working.. and im in this chat with xchat...
[07:26] <holycow> plexxus, you don't haveto know, you can learn it's not too hard
[07:26] <plexxus> holycow, but there is this resolution problem :D
[07:26] <holycow> plexxus, me too
[07:26] <ShaneAu> Wow
[07:26] <ShaneAu> nice
[07:26] <ShaneAu> :)
[07:26] <ShaneAu> I love it
[07:26] <plexxus> holycow, but i will do this :D
[07:26] <ShaneAu> :p
[07:26] <ShaneAu> Had a big Nvidia logo on startx
[07:26] <kingsley> Is it OK to make some new disk partitions with MS FDISK and others with cfdisk?
[07:26] <thegreedyturtle> you got it then
[07:26] <ShaneAu> And now things are running excellent (graphics wise)
[07:26] <ShaneAu> Thanks!
[07:26] <holycow> plexxus, well give it a try, some people like me ditched windows immediately, some go back and forth, some don't like it, whatever suits you
[07:26] <drcoded> tgz how I extract
[07:26] <thegreedyturtle> you can turn of that obnoxious nVidia thing too if you want
[07:27] <ivo_> i can't locate standby.sh
[07:27] <ShaneAu> lol, what was that site you last sent
[07:27] <ivo_> is this a script?
[07:27] <ShaneAu> Someone sent an address
[07:27] <drcoded> I dont remmber
[07:27] <drcoded> tar -xzv or somthing
[07:27] <thegreedyturtle> ubuntuguide.com?
[07:27] <thegreedyturtle> err .org
[07:27] <ShaneAu> It was for beginners or something with a anchor
[07:28] <ShaneAu> #nvidia_guid or something as the anchor
[07:28] <ivo_> anyone?
[07:28] <thegreedyturtle> search for nvidia on it
[07:29] <thegreedyturtle> it's the only mention of nvidia
[07:29] <ShaneAu> never mind found it, http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[07:29] <plexxus> thx. guys.. i have to restart now!
[07:29] <ivo_> does anybody know about ubuntu standby??
[07:29] <netmonk> ivo_, what do you need it for
[07:29] <thegreedyturtle> i definitely reccommend scouring that site for tricks and tips
[07:29] <netmonk> ok
[07:29] <thegreedyturtle> prelink is awesome
[07:29] <ivo_> they sad earlier to look for standby.sh but i can't find it
[07:30] <netmonk> ivo_, you need either hibernate.sh or suspend.sh
[07:30] <thegreedyturtle> what are you doing ivo?
[07:30] <ivo_> hibernate is to harddrive?
[07:30] <burner> ivo_, yes
[07:30] <Rhymes> where can i find a breezy status page? something like a changelog, release notes and so on
[07:31] <burner> Rhymes, google for "ubuntu breezy" :P
[07:31] <Rhymes> ;)
[07:31] <burner> in any event, there isn't much yet
[07:31] <ShaneAu> And to exit gnome is just Ctrl Alt backspace, why didn't anyone mention that?
[07:31] <ivo_> how to get out of standby, powerbutton?
[07:31] <ShaneAu> Seems to have worked
[07:32] <burner> an updated irssi (from cvs)  new gtk, some libs
[07:32] <ShaneAu> :p
[07:32] <burner> ivo_, good question, when you find out, let me know ;)
[07:32] <cusco> hi
[07:32] <St0n3-C0l> I heard Breezy got their chaintool or toolchain broken
[07:32] <thegreedyturtle> ShaneAu: ctrl alt backspace is a heavy handed way to exit gnome, it literally kills off the Xserver
[07:32] <plexxus> ive got another problem.. i have 2 soundcards in my pc.. how can i change between the soundcards?
[07:32] <cusco> Im having a problem installing transcode
[07:32] <ivo_> burner, why do you say that?
[07:32] <thegreedyturtle> https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DeveloperResources maybe Rhymes?
[07:32] <burner> plexxus, using gnome's mixer app?
[07:33] <ShaneAu> Oh.
[07:33] <plexxus> whats the command for this mixer?
[07:33] <Amaranth> plexxus: Right click on the volume icon.
[07:33] <Amaranth> choose Open Volume Control
[07:34] <Hoxzer> :D no!
[07:34] <burner> yeah, what Amaranth said
[07:34] <Hoxzer> now I totally messed up my display adapter :D
[07:34] <burner> plexxus, then check the menu to change cards
[07:35] <plexxus> k.. thx.. but it doesnt work..
[07:35] <plexxus> ive got a cheap creative and an audigy 2 in my pc
[07:35] <plexxus> the sound form the cheap creative was terrible.. and stucks..
[07:35] <plexxus> i hate it..
[07:36] <Owner__> good tip - i was looking for an add in card
[07:36] <plexxus> but the option in the mixer where i can change doestn work.. the sound comes also through the cheap when i took the audigy2
[07:36] <Owner__> did Ubuntu recognize both right away?
[07:36] <bur[n] er> ivo_: in my system, teh file for suspending is "sleep.sh"
[07:36] <plexxus> yes..
[07:36] <cusco> does anyone has transcode in the main repo?
[07:37] <Owner__> Heh- my windows box was hacked again on IRC - so what else is new - lol
[07:38] <flodine> why do you need headers for the kernel
[07:38] <Owner__> formerly - "IIIEars" - whay should i be surprised.
[07:38] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[07:39] <plexxus> i think gnome is the sweetest desktop i ever see..
[07:39] <Hoxzer> Im havin realy bad problems now
[07:40] <Hoxzer> is there anyway how I can return my .conf as it was?
[07:41] <holycow> Hoxzer, what did you do and the answer is only if you have a backup of the file
[07:41] <plexxus> how can i change the resolution..
[07:41] <Hoxzer> :D
[07:41] <Hoxzer> wonderful
[07:41] <Hoxzer> seems I have to reinstal everything
[07:42] <holycow> plexxus, system / preferences / resolution
[07:42] <plexxus> there are only this standart resolutions..
[07:42] <holycow> Hoxzer, good way to learn to always backup files before mucking about
[07:42] <plexxus> my screen supports 1600x1200
[07:42] <holycow> plexxus, did you change the v and h frequencies in your xorg.conf?
[07:42] <plexxus> but the highest i can chose is 1024 x 768
[07:43] <holycow> and added 1600x1200 resolution to the section underneath the frequence section in xorg.conf?
[07:43] <plexxus> do i have to put a "1600x1200" in front of the "1024x768" ?
[07:43] <holycow> y ep
[07:44] <kiun> hello
[07:44] <holycow> plexxus, oh forgot one thing
[07:44] <holycow> you need to restart x server after you change that config file
[07:44] <plexxus> ahh ok :D
[07:44] <kiun> I'm spanish, I need help
[07:44] <holycow> do that by doing sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ... that will log you out and you will loose this channel
[07:45] <plexxus> there is another way ive read... strg+alt+backsp ...
[07:45] <holycow> sure
[07:45] <plexxus> is that also a way?
[07:45] <holycow> yep
[07:45] <plexxus> oh.. k!
[07:45] <plexxus> thx!
[07:46] <topyli> don't know how completely that starts gdm though
[07:46] <topyli> restarts even
[07:46] <holycow> completely
[07:46] <holycow> it's daemon, there is no other way to restart it
[07:47] <topyli> i mean ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:47] <topyli> it kills x of course, but may not rerun all the init scripts
[07:47] <plexxus> if i did the false settings.. is there a way to get in graphic mode with standart config?
[07:47] <holycow> oh yeah stopping gdm service is the cleanest way
[07:47] <zxc> Firefox keeps randomly exiting by itself :/...anyone know why or have I just done something about 5 times
[07:47] <holycow> plexxus, x wont start if the settings are bad and will fall back to command line
[07:48] <plexxus> oh.. i dont know what to to in command line mode..
[07:48] <holycow> zxc stop watching those "really friendly girl" sites :)
[07:48] <topyli> zxc: happens here too when browsing porn
[07:48] <holycow> plexxus, well, unless you have a backup config file :) take a change, what the heck
[07:48] <topyli> ummm... make that "graphical sites with lots of links"
[07:49] <zxc> holycow and topyli, damn, gonna have to switch back to windoze!
[07:49] <zxc> seriously though I was just on deviantart :/
[07:49] <topyli> yeah, windows does have its uses :)
[07:49] <holycow> rofl
[07:50] <zxc> why does it do it on "friendly girl" sites?
[07:50] <zxc> :/
[07:50] <topyli> zxc: i don't know why. i don't think it's a gecko problem because epiphany doesn't do it. it seems to be just firefox
[07:50] <holycow> zxc i was kidden :) rofl
[07:50] <FR500> help!!!!! had a power failure, now at boot it says EXT3-fs error loading journal, after that i get kernel panic
[07:51] <ivoks> hi
[07:51] <prototyp> hi
[07:51] <topyli> FR500: calm down, boot from something, run fsck
[07:51] <zxc> ah not too bad, epiphany for girl sites it is ;P
[07:51] <Delph> FR500: grab a live CD, boot off it, fsck the hard drive, hope for the best =:)
[07:51] <FR500> Delph, oks
[07:52] <FR500> thx
[07:52] <prototyp> anyone know of some nice tricks to force installation of packages?
[07:52] <FR500> fsck~=scandisk?
[07:52] <topyli> zxc: then you can even bookmark them and people won't see your bookmarks in firefox :)
[07:52] <Delph> FR500: aye
[07:52] <Delph> but lacks the property that it restarts every ten seconds.
[07:52] <Jimmothy> i have a problem
[07:53] <Jimmothy> x.org will no longer start after i fiddled trying to sort my resolution
[07:53] <Jimmothy> i'm on irssi from the backup thing
[07:53] <topyli> FR500: yes, and "hope for the best" means "check moon phase and wave a dead chicken on the keyboard"
[07:53] <flodine> whats the latest kernel out for ubuntu
[07:53] <holycow> Jimmothy, are you plexus?
[07:53] <Jimmothy> no idea what that is
[07:53] <FR500> topyli, what?
[07:53] <resiak> flodine: Are you really serious about asking that here?!
[07:53] <prototyp> topyli: LOL
[07:53] <holycow> Jimmothy, nm then
[07:53] <resiak> GAH!
[07:53] <zxc> topyli, rofl, that's what I used to do with firefox on windoze xD
[07:53] <topyli> FR500: in other words, "pray" :)
[07:53] <resiak> I must stop mistaking #ubuntu for #debian.
[07:53] <Jimmothy> how do i start x.org?
[07:53] <topyli> hehe
[07:54] <resiak> Delph: You threw me off by being in here...
[07:54] <flodine> yeah mine is <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:54] <holycow> Jimmothy, ideally you want to have a backup of your xorg.conf file, and copy that back overtop, then try again
[07:54] <flodine> im not a punk
[07:54] <Delph> resiak: i'm just in here for the comedy value.
[07:54] <Jimmothy> oh good idea, how do i do that? i know i have one, i rememeber making it
[07:54] <resiak> Delph: Erm...
[07:55] <holycow> cp xorg.conf.back xorg.conf
[07:55] <dantheman> does anyone here use mail-notification?
[07:55] <Delph> resiak: of the questions, not playing sillybuggers with the answers.
[07:55] <holycow> the first name is what you named it, the last name is the target, make sure you have your paths right and then just do startx to test
[07:55] <resiak> Delph: Heh.
[07:55] <Jimmothy> ok, brb
[07:55] <holycow> remember, its going to copy OVER TOP of the old xorg.conf file
[07:56] <prototyp> very nice copy/pasting my errors now
[07:56] <dantheman> i'm having some problems setting up mail-notification to work with gmail
[07:56] <dantheman> the notifier doesn't show up at all
[07:56] <dantheman> and it won't let me configure it agian
[07:56] <dantheman> i sent myself a test message, but it didn't show up then, either
[07:56] <Munnu> sen puutteessa ostin itselleni IDE64:n. =D
[07:56] <Munnu> oops.
[07:57] <topyli> dantheman: are you sure it's running?
[07:57] <ShaneAu> Am i able to upgrade my firefox to 1.0.3 with apt-get?
[07:57] <dantheman> i went to the applications menu and clicked on it
[07:58] <dantheman> it didn't give me any information about what it was doing, if it started or not
[07:58] <Jimmothy> ok that didnt' work, i don't remember the paths
[07:58] <holycow> lol
[07:58] <holycow> where is your backup file?
[07:58] <dantheman> i'm reinstalling the package now
[07:58] <topyli> Munnu: kaada itsellesi vaan :)
[07:58] <Jimmothy> i presume its in the same directory as xorg.conf
[07:58] <Hoxzer> everything went so well until I edited .conf file :D
[07:58] <prototyp> how do I force a certain package to install? kdelibs-data keeps bugging me with some dependency problem
[07:59] <Hoxzer> no way :D
[07:59] <prototyp> which I'm unable to fix
[07:59] <holycow> Jimmothy, cd /etc/X11
[07:59] <Hoxzer> now I have to install everything again
[07:59] <holycow> once you are in there you can just do cp old.file.backup xorg.conf
[07:59] <Jimmothy> gah i need a second terminal while i'm stuck
[07:59] <Jimmothy> ok, brb once more
[07:59] <holycow> Jimmothy, ctrl/alt/f2
[07:59] <holycow> don't log out
[07:59] <holycow> just do ctrl/alt/f2 and login there
[07:59] <Jimmothy> didn't do anything
[08:00] <topyli> Hoxzer: that's hard to believe. reinstall?
[08:00] <dantheman> is there another program like mail-notification for checking a gmail account?
[08:01] <Hoxzer> Topyli: yep
[08:01] <Hoxzer> im not sure but do you know how do I edit that file?
[08:01] <Nomikos> if I want to mount folders on Ubuntu from MacOS X on another computer, what do i have to install?
[08:01] <Hoxzer> when I cant visit in gnome
[08:01] <zxc> The application "Epiphany" has decided to quit unexpectadly, noooo my pr0n! :P
[08:01] <HcE> Nomikos: They all can use Samba
[08:01] <Nomikos> HcE: so I install Samba on Ubuntu?
[08:02] <HcE> Nomikos: yes
[08:02] <jroc> hi there... has anyone here (a) used the POPfile mail filtering package and (b) had any problems with it since upgrading to Hoary?
[08:02] <HcE> Nomikos: and the use smbmount
[08:02] <prototyp> Hoxzer: have you installed mc yet?
[08:02] <FR500> topyli, Delph thanks a lot
[08:02] <Hoxzer> no
[08:02] <FR500> it worked
[08:02] <prototyp> try it
[08:02] <georges> hi. is anyone using ayttm ?
[08:02] <Nomikos> and on OS X, do I just go to network and it'll find it?
[08:02] <Hoxzer> I haven't installed like anything
[08:02] <Hoxzer> only bittorrent client
[08:02] <zxc> georges, I've tried it :/
[08:02] <prototyp> no X needed to edit files
[08:02] <georges> zxc: not happy wit hit?
[08:02] <Nomikos> HcE: thanks, I'll try it out
[08:02] <Hoxzer> yeah, I can be in the console
[08:03] <Hoxzer> but not into Gnome
[08:03] <Jimmothy> so i cp'd my backup to xorg.conf but startx gave me bash: command startx not found, or similar
[08:03] <zxc> georges, wouldn't connect to msn messenger for me :/
[08:03] <georges> zxc: connects fine here
[08:03] <holycow> Jimmothy, weird, is that an ubuntu box?
[08:03] <georges> zxc: using ayttm coming with hoary
[08:03] <Jimmothy> yep, hoary, new install freshly messed up today
[08:04] <holycow> Jimmothy, oh
[08:04] <holycow> you need to do sudo startx
[08:04] <Jimmothy> oh haha
[08:04] <holycow> :)
[08:04] <Jimmothy> ok, yet more brb
[08:05] <zxc> georges, I got in using apt-get I think :/
[08:05] <topyli> FR500: good. ext3 is hard to break with a power failure :)
[08:05] <topyli> well, so is ext2
[08:05] <IIIEars> << Back
[08:05] <BockBilbo> olas
[08:05] <BockBilbo> hello
[08:05] <dantheman> is there another program like mail-notification for checking a gmail account?
[08:05] <nuria> olas
[08:06] <FR500> topyli, being ubuntu my only os now it was scary for once
[08:06] <zxc> georges, I just got it to work a bit better but there was an "Unknown error 92" and Msn connection "reset"
[08:06] <topyli> FR500: sure. because for a minute you don't know how badly broken the filesystem is. it may be genuinely gone
[08:06] <BockBilbo> uis una chica en ste canal :P | wow, a girl in this channel :p
[08:06] <FR500> yeah
[08:06] <BockBilbo> :P
[08:06] <IIIEars> lol - actually logged into IRC with the redmond OS and samba connecting running on my other machine - Doh! - what was i thinking? - ROFLMAO
[08:07] <BockBilbo> hey nuria
[08:07] <georges> Only think I know is that I use may email adress as user and then the passport password
[08:07] <Jimmothy> ok, i have working x :)
[08:07] <holycow> *highfive*
[08:07] <georges> zxc:  Only thing I know is that I use may email adress as user and then the passport password
[08:07] <IIIEars> congrats!
[08:07] <Jimmothy> *highfives*
[08:07] <topyli> Jimmothy: you can run X programs now! :)
[08:08] <holycow> i wish plexxus had better luck, didn't come back which means he will reinstall from scratch because he doesn't have any cli experience
[08:08] <Jimmothy> next on my priorities is sorting my resolution
[08:08] <nuria> joe nadie en espaol
[08:08] <Jimmothy> i love irssi :) and i haven't installed beep-media-player yet
[08:08] <holycow> Jimmothy, make another backup of your xorg.conf file just in case :)
[08:08] <neofeed> nuria, #ubuntu-es?
[08:08] <holycow> lol
[08:08] <IIIEars> XORG hell - i don't envy you.
[08:08] <topyli> nuria: /join #ubuntu-es
[08:09] <nuria> asias
[08:09] <neofeed> hmm 'lets have a party' - is that correctly spelled?
[08:09] <topyli> no
[08:09] <Jimmothy> only problem with 640x800 is its so small!
[08:09] <zxc> georges, I think I'll have to stick with gaim for the near future ;) as aMSN is a pile of shit as well
[08:09] <AlfaWolph> let's
[08:09] <sash_> Ubuntu rulez
[08:10] <neofeed> hmm thanks AlfaWolph ... my english sucks :(
[08:10] <topyli> capital L
[08:10] <Jimmothy> the google logo is currently the size of a cockroach
[08:10] <topyli> heh
[08:10] <holycow> Jimmothy, basically all you need to do is find the correct vertical and horizontal refresh rates for your monitor, and put them into your xorg.conf file
[08:10] <georges> zxc: anyway I want to use it as yahoo messenger... it works fine (did so for years) but the webcam does not work. Wecam did work fine with gentoo.
[08:10] <neofeed> topyli, 'Let's have a party'?
[08:10] <neofeed> [confused]
[08:10] <topyli> yeah
[08:10] <holycow> Jimmothy, also adding maximum resolution settings for your moni in the section below will help
[08:11] <topyli> neofeed: that's a good sentence to begin your english training too :)
[08:12] <ruukia> I am getting this at startup ...error:missing command to run.. someone plz help !
[08:12] <topyli> ruukia: does it boot ok?
[08:13] <^vir^> how do i go about changing the login screen in ubuntu i want to change to entrance (e17)
[08:13] <ruukia> topyli, ya .. acutlaly i had firestarter installed, then i uninstalled it with apt-get remove .. but now this happens :(
[08:13] <neofeed> topyli, well I can speak quite well. But the writing is a real handycap... But I can't even write my mom's tounge...
[08:14] <holycow> ^vir^, not sure, if you have gdm installed thatas your login manager.  does e17 actually have its own login manager that you can use?
[08:14] <neofeed> ^vir^, you'd have to substitute gdm with elogin
[08:14] <topyli> ruukia: you have a firestarter init script hanging around, and it doesn't find firestarter which it wants to run
[08:14] <neofeed> holycow, It does
[08:14] <holycow> ah there we go, okay
[08:14] <plexxus> Hey! thx all!! Grafix WoRx nice!!!!
[08:14] <neofeed> it's called entrance.
[08:14] <^vir^> i know
[08:14] <prototyp> anyone in here into kubuntu?
[08:15] <PenguinBoy> Afternoon guys!
[08:15] <PenguinBoy> can I get some assistance with GRUB
[08:15] <neofeed> ^vir^, so edit the x file...
[08:15] <zyga> hello
[08:15] <^vir^> thanks
[08:15] <BockBilbo> prototyp, #kubuntu
[08:15] <topyli> ruukia: try purging the firestarter package, or in synaptic, "remove with config"
[08:15] <plexxus> whats a good (or the best) available mp3 player for ubuntu.. and how can i access my ntfs partitions ?
[08:15] <zyga> can anyone reccomend win32 app that is compatible with gnomemeeting?
[08:15] <ruukia> topyli, ok i'll try that thx
[08:15] <prototyp> BockBilbo: duh... thanks :D
[08:15] <plexxus> sorry.. mp3 player for gnome
[08:15] <holycow> plexxus, welcome back, did it work?
[08:15] <zxc> georges, does it have webcam support?!
[08:15] <ruukia> i also spent quite a bit of time removing crap scripts firestarter left on my system
[08:15] <topyli> ruukia: look in /etc/init.d if there is a firestarter script
[08:16] <^vir^> plexxus, xmms, rythembox....
[08:16] <plexxus> holycow, yeah.. after some xorg.conf editing retrys it worked :D
[08:16] <neofeed> ^vir^, you coult try to get help in #e, or #edevelop
[08:16] <drcode> hi all
[08:16] <holycow> plexxus, *high five* nice :)
[08:16] <ruukia> topyli, ya I already took care of the one in init.d
[08:16] <drcode> any one config shorewall?
[08:16] <plexxus> rythmbox says that he dont know what mp3 is
[08:16] <georges> zxc: yes, but it's not working in ubuntu
[08:16] <ruukia> but it has another running somehwere and it's really annoying
[08:16] <^vir^> install the w32codecs then
[08:16] <plexxus> holycow, yeah.. ubuntu rox tha world :D
[08:16] <holycow> plexxus, ubuntu website has info on playing mp3's and stuff like that
[08:16] <wezzer-> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[08:16] <topyli> ruukia: it might not be firestarter though, but it's one of the initscripts
[08:17] <georges> zxc: ayttm has yahoo webcam support and is usable in gentoo
[08:17] <^vir^> www.ubuntuguide.org i think it is plexxus
[08:17] <plexxus> okaayy :)
[08:17] <^vir^> tells you how to mount ntfs
[08:17] <^vir^> :)
[08:17] <holycow> plexxus, just so that you are aware, ubuntu cannot give 'free' mp3 support with the distro, mp3 is a patented format, and the patent holders want all players to pay them a royalty in order to be able to play mp3's
[08:17] <georges> zxc: but in ubuntu I can only view my own webcam,. Others can't view mine and I can't view other's webcams (shows blank window)
[08:17] <holycow> plexxus, so you haveto manually download support your self for that reason
[08:18] <plexxus> holycow, oh..
[08:18] <ruukia> topyli, is there a way I can narrow down the scripts there to my problem ?
[08:18] <topyli> plexxus: holycow: you can of course also tell apt to download the codecs for you :)
[08:19] <zxc> georges, that sucks, tell the dev team! :P
[08:19] <holycow> plexxus, yeah you will quickly find out just how hosed most people are in the marketplace wihtout knowing it
[08:19] <^vir^> plexxus, the site i gave you will tell you how to add mp3 support
[08:19] <holycow> topyli, well thats sorta why i'm mentioning the site :)
[08:19] <georges> zxc: where? forums?
[08:19] <^vir^> & other formats
[08:19] <topyli> ruukia: bootlog perhaps, or just try and see what's being run in the boot sequence when the error appears
[08:20] <holycow> plexxus, also, now that you have a working xorg.conf, plz make a backup just incase
[08:20] <holycow> hehe :)
[08:20] <topyli> hey, spider-man 1 is on tv. might as well see it
[08:20] <Jimmothy> time to mess up once more
[08:20] <plexxus> holycow, yeah.. i did backuped it.. because my editings dind worked 3 times..
[08:20] <plexxus> grml..
[08:20] <Jimmothy> most likely back in a bit
[08:21] <plexxus> and the console started..
[08:21] <ruukia> ok
[08:22] <kanuha> can anyone tell me why my hard drive is working overtime right now
[08:22] <Tuxicity> kanuha, updatedb might be running?
[08:22] <kanuha> it's just working away and I am not doing anything
[08:22] <kanuha> Tuxicity: how long does it take?
[08:23] <Tuxicity> kanuha, use command "top" and check it's near top
[08:23] <georges> for some silly reason ubuntu starts updatedb quite late (or eraly in morning) so when I get up it's still running (160GB of files)
[08:23] <plexxus> i do not find the paket who aktivates the mp3 compatibility in rythmbox.. but i am installing now xmms...
[08:23] <chombee> if I install KUbuntu on an Ubuntu system, will it automatically give me the Gnome/KDE choice on login?
[08:24] <lcizzle> what can I use to burn a DVD besides Nero, it wont install on my system
[08:24] <holycow> lcizzle, stay away from that pos
[08:24] <holycow> install gnomebaker
[08:24] <holycow> or k3b if you are on kubuntu
[08:24] <holycow> nero sucks
[08:25] <^vir^> plexxus, http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[08:25] <kanuha> Tuxicity: the on eat the top is amarokapp
[08:26] <georges> I installed k3b on gnome. well it dragged lots of kde libs with it but I still have a gnome system
[08:26] <plexxus> thx vir :D
[08:26] <^vir^> np plexxus
[08:26] <XTCboarder> i use gnmoebaker
[08:26] <lcizzle> which package should I download of k3b for ubuntu?
[08:26] <CB_> can anyone suggest a good N64 emulator?
[08:26] <XTCboarder> but i can't write to my usb dvd drive
[08:27] <lcizzle> nm
[08:27] <holycow> lcizzle, :)
[08:27] <holycow> lcizzle, hey ...
[08:27] <lcizzle> ?
[08:27] <holycow> if you are on ubuntu, donwload gnomebaker
[08:27] <^vir^> i hope they make a eubuntu in the future cos enlightenment is great
[08:27] <holycow> k3b is for kde, and it will download all kinds of shit
[08:27] <holycow> try gnomebaker first
[08:28] <Tuxicity> kanuha, ok but is updatedb among the 1st apps listed by top?
[08:28] <kanuha> I quit out of amarokapp on the taskbar and it my hard drive settle down
[08:28] <kanuha> Tuxicity: no
[08:28] <Tuxicity> kanuha, what's amarokapp for?
[08:28] <kanuha> Tuxicity: don't even see it listed
[08:28] <lcizzle> sigh
[08:29] <kanuha> Tuxicity: mp3 player
[08:29] <lcizzle> everyone only has i386 binaries
[08:29] <plexxus> how can i do skripts (like batch skripts in windows) bcause i want do mount my ntfs partitions automaticaly...
[08:29] <XTCboarder> asnybody had trouble burning dvd's on a usb drive with gnomebaker?
[08:29] <ruukia> exit
[08:29] <Tuxicity> kanuha, maybe it was building a playlist from audio files on your HD??
[08:29] <XTCboarder> i neet herp
[08:29] <kanuha> Tuxicity: maybe it was doing some kind of scan for files, but I already told it where to look
[08:30] <Tuxicity> plexxus, bash scripts
[08:30] <kanuha> Tuxicity: i'll see if it happens again when I load it
[08:30] <plexxus> tuxicity, are u soad fan? :D  bash scripts? i only want to have files where i click on.. and they execute a script..
[08:30] <Jimmothy> all sorted :)
[08:31] <Tuxicity> kanuha, since it's a KDE app, maybe ask in #kubuntu?
[08:31] <Jimmothy> copied over my old irssi folder too, so i have everything back
[08:31] <kanuha> Tuxicity: ok, thanks
[08:31] <plexxus> tuxicity, like mountD.(idontknow) and there is a script in what does mount blablabla
[08:31] <Jimmothy> holycow: thank you for your help. very appreciated.
[08:32] <holycow> no probs
[08:32] <BockBilbo> anyone can tell me how to visualize the memory used by a process in shell?
[08:32] <Tuxicity> plexxus, do you really need a script for that? just edite fstab?
[08:32] <plexxus> fstab ?
[08:32] <holycow> hopefully we will eventually have this x stuff all guified, it's just that x development was stagnated for like more than 10 years
[08:32] <plexxus> im new to linux and ubuntu
[08:32] <holycow> xfree dev anyway
[08:32] <BockBilbo> plexxus, /etc/fstab
[08:32] <XTCboarder> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[08:32] <CB_> can anyone suggest a good N64 emulator?
[08:33] <plexxus> and there i can put mount command?
[08:33] <BockBilbo> plexxus,
[08:33] <BockBilbo> nope
[08:33] <BockBilbo> read the fstab manual
[08:33] <kanuha> man ubuntu is great, with irc, howto and the forums, anyone can use ubuntu
[08:33] <BockBilbo> "man fstab"
[08:33] <XTCboarder> plexxus
[08:33] <Tuxicity> plexxus, not exactly but it will mount your partitions automatically every boot
[08:33] <XTCboarder> there you set the fs's the system will mount no boo
[08:33] <XTCboarder> t
[08:33] <plexxus> oh.. thats nice.. i see :O
[08:34] <holycow> kanuha, :) yep, welcome
[08:34] <plexxus> oh.. another question.. where can i change the boot settings..
[08:34] <BockBilbo> XTCboarder, do you know how to show the memory usd by a process in  shell?
[08:34] <Moder> how can I mount a partition that is krypted with blowfish?
[08:34] <Tuxicity> plexxus, as in?
[08:34] <Jimmothy> you know, in a way i enjoyed experiencing messing it all up for a moment, and that i handled it fairly well.
[08:34] <Moder> crypted, sorry :>
[08:35] <plexxus> tuxicity, as in????
[08:35] <Tuxicity> plexxus, what boot settings?
[08:35] <IIIEars> plexus - in /boot/grub no?
[08:35] <plexxus> tuxicity, the settings where i can change the boot sequece
[08:35] <XTCboarder> no dude
[08:35] <XTCboarder> i'm very n00b
[08:35] <holycow> Jimmothy, yeah the one thing abotu all gui stuff, is the out of sight out of mind problem, everything is fine u ntil somethign goes wrong and then  you have no skills to fix it.  cli isn't so bad imho
[08:36] <BockBilbo> ohmm
[08:36] <BockBilbo> ok;) thanks
[08:36] <XTCboarder> ;D
[08:36] <Jimmothy> i love working with the terminal
[08:36] <IIIEars> (sheepish grin) - okay - (new linux user 96 hours can you tell?)
[08:36] <XTCboarder> do you know how to setup up a udb dvdrw so it can burn dvd's?
[08:36] <XTCboarder> :(
[08:37] <Tuxicity> plexxus, sory but can you be more specific, I havent had much sleep :)
[08:37] <plexxus> sorry that i so silly to linux..
[08:37] <Tuxicity> plexxus, no no
[08:37] <plexxus> but its so much different to windows
[08:37] <dantheman> does gcc not come installed on ubuntu by default?
[08:38] <plexxus> i have do to all the config in files..
[08:38] <plexxus> is.. a little bit confusing..
[08:38] <lcizzle> dantheman: no, doesnt seem like it
[08:38] <XTCboarder> dantheman no
[08:38] <Tuxicity> dantheman, sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[08:38] <bpuccio> dantheman: no, apt-get install build-essentials
[08:38] <holycow> plexxus, you want to change the boot sequence?
[08:38] <holycow> wow!
[08:38] <XTCboarder> plexxus what is it you need?
[08:38] <holycow> plexxus, mind me asking why?
[08:39] <xukun> I realy cant explain why but I,m getting this error all the time if I try to update: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[08:39] <plexxus> tuxicity, i want to change the boot sequence,... ive got windows on my pc and ubuntu, and i want that windows is the first boot option..
[08:39] <holycow> thats a very advanced request inded :)
[08:39] <dantheman> Tuxicity: apt-get couldn't find the build-essentials package
[08:39] <drspin> plexxus: Linux is not confusing -- It's very logical -- you're just suffering from M$-sucks syndrome
[08:39] <XTCboarder> ahhh
[08:39] <Tuxicity> plexxus, oh, ok
[08:39] <holycow> plexxus, oh thats your grub menu ... its in /etc/grub/grub.conf
[08:39] <xukun> why refused?
[08:39] <holycow> just change the order in which the os' are listed
[08:39] <dazzed> plexxus: edit /etc/grug/grub.conf and change order
[08:39] <plexxus> drspin, yes :D
[08:40] <XTCboarder> how do i install liloin ubuntu?
[08:40] <XTCboarder> it seems grub doen's like my computer
[08:40] <lcizzle> dantheman: build-essential
[08:40] <plexxus> thx dazzed
[08:40] <xukun> any body
[08:40] <IIIEars> why lilo? lilo needs to be "activated after any editing is done to it.
[08:41] <Tuxicity> dantheman, sudo apt-get install build-essential    (no 's')
[08:41] <Jimmothy> Jimmothy's linux quick tip: If you're going to be installing and/or breaking things, be prepared; be armed with a good album, a DVD maybe, or a good 'ol PS2 game. You may need to pass the time. :)
[08:41] <drspin> plexxus: find a good tutorial about the linux file structure -- it'll make using linux generally easier and help you understand things like file permissions and why things can be "quirky" to a windows convert
[08:41] <georges> grub does not like my PC either. or rather it's the bios. some issue of bios not recognizing big harddisks. I have put grum on a floppy
[08:42] <XTCboarder> IIIEars, cause grub doen's like my machine
[08:42] <XTCboarder> i get mem errors with it
[08:42] <plexxus> drspin, okay! :D
[08:42] <XTCboarder> and kernel won't decompress right so no boot is done after all
[08:42] <xukun> any bobdy?  there is nothing wrong with my sources.list file but I still get refused errors
[08:42] <drspin> XTCboarder: have you ran a memtest?
[08:42] <XTCboarder> yeah
[08:42] <plexxus> drspin, i ll to my best in linux, but is really different, but in some aspects better than windows :D
[08:42] <drspin> XTCboarder: any errors?
[08:42] <XTCboarder> it gives me 4 errors en 4 especific bytes
[08:43] <georges> XTCboarder: does the ubuntu live CD boot? does the knoppix CD boot?
[08:43] <holycow> plexxus, don't give up... one of the side benefits of learnign linux is you actually learn what windows is doing behind the scenes
[08:43] <XTCboarder> i don't know i have none of them
[08:43] <XTCboarder> but slack and freebsd and all of them wins0x boot
[08:43] <IIIEars> XTC - if you get into trouble and need to erase the boot sector or the entire disk check out the "dd" command EXAMPLE - dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/yourdiskname bs=512 will erase the your disk
[08:43] <holycow> plexxus, believe it or not, windows does a lot of similar things in similar ways, tho a lot is just completely stupid
[08:43] <XTCboarder> only ubuntu's don't
[08:43] <drspin> XTCboarder: If you have two DIMM sockets try swapping them -- if you only have one I'd suggest replacing it
[08:43] <georges> XTCboarder: download one. always very useful. I recommend knoppix
[08:43] <plexxus> holycow, yeah.. i read this sentece u wrote on a forum.. lol :D
[08:43] <Tuxicity> xukun, maybe realted to gpg?
[08:43] <holycow> plexxus, rofl, no shit :) haha, weird, yeah i did indeed :)
[08:44] <XTCboarder> drspin, but how can it be that it is the only disk that dies
[08:44] <holycow> good memory
[08:44] <Tuxicity> xukun, related*
[08:44] <XTCboarder> i even have hiren's and it boots perfectly
[08:44] <SalsaDoom> Anyone have an audigy2 and having problems with the volume seeming to be muted?
[08:44] <XTCboarder> plus, it boots sometimes
[08:44] <XTCboarder> and sometimes it doesn't
[08:44] <XTCboarder> :p
[08:44] <nydust> what is the name of the apache2 lib that gives me mysql support?
[08:45] <XTCboarder> it's very erratic and funky nehavior
[08:45] <XTCboarder> so i think maybe is the booter and the booter is grub
[08:45] <XTCboarder> plus i installed lilo one time and rebooted about 3 times
[08:45] <XTCboarder> and all times was ok
[08:45] <IIIEars> XTC, sounds like it is
[08:46] <XTCboarder> but i installed it when i was installing ubuntu
[08:46] <Jimmothy> maybe you're hdd iusn't in the best condition if it isn't loading all the time
[08:46] <XTCboarder> Jimmothy,
[08:46] <holycow> XTCboarder, you may want to check your hardware before swapping out for lilo
[08:46] <xukun> Tuxicity, sec maybe you get a point there
[08:47] <XTCboarder> it's got nothign to do with the hdd, i get the same error with cd's or hd's boot
[08:47] <plexxus> salsadoom, if u get it worked.. pls give me a message, my audigy2 is also silent :
[08:47] <IIIEars> yes - but if you are like me it isn't the first linux install/distro i tried some notably FreeBSD create virtual partitiions sda and grub/ubuntu doesn't like them
[08:47] <xukun> Tuxicity, I h ave done this: gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907
[08:47] <xukun> gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -
[08:47] <SalsaDoom> plexxus: ah, so its not only me. Pretty wierd eh? Its pretty hard to mess up emu10k1 soundcards these days.
[08:48] <plexxus> salsadoom, ive got two soundcards in my pc, one is a creative cheap thing.. i dont know the name.. and one is a audigy2 platinum...
[08:48] <xukun> Tuxicity, but I dont see if things whent wrong
[08:48] <plexxus> salsadoom, the cheap one gives some crackling stucking sounds .. terrible... and the audigy2 is quiet..
[08:48] <IIIEars> XTC - if your disk is in trouble with flaky looking partition sizes or sda virtual partitions google the "dd" comand - it is a lifesaver
[08:48] <cyberix> There is know way to open new wmv files?
[08:49] <plexxus> salsadoom, i hate life without music :)
[08:49] <cyberix> s/know/no/
[08:49] <XTCboarder> IIIEars, !! that was chinese for me
[08:49] <SalsaDoom> plexxus: I suspect esd might be the culprit. Gimme a sec
[08:49] <XTCboarder> :p
[08:49] <SalsaDoom> plexxus: lol, yeah. No music hardcore sucks.
[08:49] <XTCboarder> can you type that on pvo
[08:49] <IIIEars> lol - i know me too until a week ago
[08:49] <ianrogers> Could I fit Ubuntu on an old 1GB drive I have lying around?
[08:49] <XTCboarder> i mean private
[08:49] <XTCboarder> cause i gotta go lunch now
[08:49] <XTCboarder> ianrogers, yeah
[08:49] <nydust> i get some errors on apt-get with the sourcelist. where do i get a correct list of sorces?
[08:49] <XTCboarder> try not using gnome
[08:50] <ianrogers> :-\
[08:50] <serfurj> ubuntu's wiki is too hard to edit
[08:50] <serfurj> i gave up
[08:50] <SalsaDoom> plexxus: nope. Its not esd ;(
[08:51] <ianrogers> I had a problem while running a LiveCD on my iBook
[08:51] <mindmedic> do i need to insert a module to use a serial mouse?
[08:51] <xukun> Tuxicity, what can I do about it if its related with gpg?
[08:51] <IIIEars> ianrogers - did you try the apm= switches on boot up?
[08:51] <plexxus> salsadoom, i do not know what alsa, esd and that other stuff is..
[08:52] <ianrogers> No, I didn't try that
[08:52] <ianrogers> It just loads a small window with like 2 lines of HTML in it
[08:52] <SalsaDoom> I hate ALSA! Its garbage code.
[08:52] <serfurj> actually, it's not too hard, it's just too much trouble
[08:52] <serfurj> wiki's should be a snap to edit
[08:52] <Tuxicity> plexxus, there audio systems of linux
[08:53] <IIIEars> Wow that is odd - read reviews of Ubuntu running pretty well on everything but a dual processor g5
[08:53] <SalsaDoom> plexxus: OSS is the original sound drivers for linux. The OSS/Free stuff in the kernel is generally lacking features. The commerical OSS is the only good sound you get in linux really. ALSA is bloated, buggy, unstable, slow and bad sounding. Thus, its the new standard.
[08:53] <mindmedic> SalsaDoom, don't use it then :)
[08:53] <ianrogers> It's a LiveCD I'm using
[08:53] <plexxus> salsadoom, and whats the best now?
[08:54] <mindmedic> SalsaDoom, or write a better implementation...
[08:54] <SalsaDoom> Well... it should be deleted from the kernel tree and never touched ever again for anyone. In My Humble Opinion. ;)
[08:54] <SalsaDoom> mindframe: I'll get right on that.
[08:54] <LinuxJones> SalsaDoom, Alsa works fine for me :D
[08:54] <SalsaDoom> plexxus: ALSA is still best if you don't want to use commerical OSS
[08:54] <Delph> SalsaDoom: buggy and unstable are it being new and untested. Slow: it's built to be much lower latency than OSS. Bad sounding is just a bad driver on your end.
[08:55] <resiak> SalsaDoom: Do you have some kind of script which expands "imho"?
[08:55] <SalsaDoom> Delph: Buggy and unstable are acceptable, since its new. Latency is probably better, but test this: Load ALSA drivers, Play a game, watch your FPS. Load an OSS driver, you'll get better fps.
[08:56] <Delph> I tend not to use it to play games... If I want to play a game, then i'll use something designed to play games.
[08:56] <Tuxicity> plexxus, the one that works for you, that's all ALSA or OSS or ESD...
[08:56] <Delph> foorandom linux install is currently not set up for using games, due to a total lack of support from hardware and software manufacturers.
[08:57] <mindmedic> Delph, theres a lot to play on linux
[08:58] <Delph> mindmedic: there's... tux racer... gnome stones... nethack =:)
[08:58] <Pathfinder> Newbie here, can anyone explain why I get the error message : Failed to save....invalid URI, in screem? Am using Hoary64 and would like to solve this problem
[08:58] <Tuxicity> xukun, I'm not familiar with gpg. you may ask a "gpg guru"
[08:58] <Choubaka> Delph: "total lack of support" isn't correct :)
[08:58] <SalsaDoom> UT2004, Darwinia, Doom3... etc
[08:58] <Choubaka> Freeciv!
[08:58] <mindmedic> quake series, doom3, enemy territory
[08:58] <Choubaka> Also, hmm, Frozen bubble.
[08:58] <IIIEars> I agree with mindmedic unreal series games run well and UT2K4 even includes a linux installer.
[08:59] <Delph> so... a few games have a linux installer.
[08:59] <nydust> apt-get hangs, how do i kill it?
[08:59] <Delph> How many hardware manufacturers have linux drivers that work nicely.
[08:59] <mindmedic> commercial stuff: http://www.holarse.de/?content=/spiele/kommerzielle/
[08:59] <dazzed> hey guys i got a friend on ubu....its recognizing his eth0 but he cant ping google..any suggestions!?
[08:59] <chavo> I play Half Life 2, Jedi Knight, Splinter Cell all with cedega.
[08:59] <dr_willis> dazzed,  can he ping the ip? if so - then its a dns issue.
[09:00] <Delph> cedega doesn't count.
[09:00] <dazzed> nope dr_willis
[09:00] <dazzed> hes on a connection that works for windows
[09:00] <LinuxJones> dazzed, sudo network-admin and select dhcp
[09:00] <AlfaWolph> dazzed, make sure he's got on it
[09:00] <dazzed> LinuxJones: hes on dhcp
[09:00] <Choubaka> Delph: Of course it does.
[09:00] <mindmedic> j0 cedega isn't really linux gaming
[09:00] <Delph> it's to *work around* commerical vendors without support for linux.
[09:00] <AlfaWolph> an ip that is
[09:00] <AlfaWolph> ah
[09:00] <Delph> this is what I mean by 'total lack of support'
[09:00] <LinuxJones> dazzed, that"s a network problem with the dns servers
[09:00] <chavo> Delph, whatever.
[09:00] <^vir^> Delph,  ati have started to support linux
[09:00] <xukun> Tuxicity, where can I find a "gpg guru" ;)
[09:01] <^vir^> nvidia do aswell
[09:01] <Delph> ^vir^: oh, the random binary lump that you have to hope works?
[09:01] <LinuxJones> dazzed, or is he behind a firewall or soething ?
[09:01] <Delph> hardly 'support'
[09:01] <LinuxJones> something*
[09:01] <dazzed> yes
[09:01] <chavo> What kind of support do you need to play a game?
[09:01] <chavo> I got your back man.
[09:01] <dazzed> LinuxJones: yeah hes behind a firewall i think he forgot about that
[09:02] <SalsaDoom> Vendetta Online is a space MMORPG that has linux support.. its pretty fun
[09:02] <Delph> Decent direct rendering to the graphics card would be a good start.
[09:02] <holycow> dazzed, rofl :)
[09:02] <holycow> AlfaWolph, nice catch
[09:02] <LinuxJones> dazzed, it's probably setup to drop icmp packets
[09:02] <chavo> You must have an ATI card.
[09:02] <IIIEars> dazzed - i installed two firewalls on the first try at ubuntu (Ex-Windows user paranoia) - try a reinstall. ubuntu has solid networking support.
[09:02] <azad> hi, how can i add myself to a user-group?
[09:02] <Delph> A good gameplaying system is one which is small, tightly integrated, and designed to do that.
[09:02] <xukun> any gpg guru here?
[09:02] <chavo> It doesn't say anything about Linux support on the box.
[09:03] <Jimmothy> how would i load gnome terminal and irssi in one command?
[09:03] <Delph> Linux is decidedly a *general purpose* operating system. The exact opposite to what you want.
[09:03] <holycow> Delph, i agree, gaming should be done on consoles
[09:03] <Delph> Most things well, but nothing brilliantly.
[09:03] <SalsaDoom> well, you guys can keep your consoles.
[09:03] <chavo> Delph, linux is whatever "I" want it to be.
[09:03] <plexxus> thx all... bye!!!
[09:03] <SalsaDoom> chavo: yeh!
[09:03] <holycow> later plexxus
[09:03] <IIIEars> chavo - yeppers! (wide grin)
[09:03] <Delph> chavo: yes. it will do what you want to do. It's just not going to be *efficient* at doing that. Because it's general purpose and customizable.
[09:03] <dazzed> yeah hes working on it now well get some more info in a seconds
[09:03] <chavo> I don't own a TV, let alone a game console.
[09:04] <Tuxicity> Jimmothy, gnome-terminal; irssi
[09:04] <^vir^> linux would be be a better platform for gaming if linus included a  proper HAL but he doesn't want hardware companies to make buggy code
[09:04] <Jimmothy> thanks
[09:04] <holycow> SalsaDoom, hehe, yeah well from an engineering perspective a game developer shouldn't haveto worry about 3 different sound servers, and god knows what kind of hardware support.  one card, one api to the media subsystems, and go and create conent
[09:04] <calamari> hi
[09:04] <chavo> Well, I'm not exactly a "gamer". All of the games I like work perfectly for me.
[09:05] <holycow> SalsaDoom, but sure, some nitwit will make it actually work on a general 'os' as was mentioned
[09:05] <azad> how can i add myself to a user-group?
[09:05] <SalsaDoom> holycow: Rubbish. The API should cover the sound servers, hardware, interfaces ,etc
[09:05] <thegreedyturtle> I totally disagree with the statement that gaming should be done on consoles.
[09:05] <chavo> I was pleasantly surprised at how well Half Life 2 runs.
[09:05] <pixil9> anyone have some advice on how to stop puking.. I drank a lot last night lol
[09:05] <Delph> chavo: same here. They just happen to work *a lot better* on designed platforms.
[09:05] <pixil9> i've puked 4 times today
[09:06] <LinuxJones> pixil9, a Whopper with Cheese combo @ BK
[09:06] <Delph> pixil9: advice #1. Stop asking people on IRC for medical advice =:)
[09:06] <Xappe> pixil9: apt-get remove hangover
[09:06] <holycow> pixil9, rofl
[09:06] <chavo> pixil9, eat a hamburger
[09:06] <pixil9> lol
[09:06] <^vir^> Delph, what you forget is consoles are becoming pcs now so a proper console system doesn't exist
[09:06] <holycow> Xappe, haha
[09:06] <pixil9> i just had cereal and it came right back up :9
[09:06] <thegreedyturtle> But you are right about how software devs shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get the hardware to work
[09:06] <pixil9> :(
[09:06] <calamari> I was working in the Gimp, typing some text in an "A" box.. I think I pushed like Shift R or Shift T or a letter around there (maybe Alt, or Ctrl by accident?).  Anyhow.. whatever I pressed completely closed the application without a trace.  It didn't ask me to save or whether I wanted to close or anything.. just POOF! gone.  Please help me figure out how to disable this "feature"
[09:06] <holycow> apt-get install brain
[09:06] <IIIEars> If there is anyone new to linux like me and feels like a they want a feeling for the potential of linux try "torsmo" it is a system monitor that transparently overlays a corner of the desktop - it is tiny resource stingy and ifinitely configurable - it will report on anything you ask it too.
[09:06] <Delph> ^vir^: yes. But they run operating systems that are designed for gaming. They're not operating systems designed for extensible configurablilty.
[09:06] <holycow> calamari, its not a feature, it just crashed
[09:07] <dr_willis> IIIEars,  will it tell me the winning ?lottery  #'s for next week?
[09:07] <holycow> calamari, you just did something it didn't like, try again
[09:07] <Blissex> IIIEars: interesting pointer, Ill have look.
[09:07] <dazzed> IIIEars: thanks for that advertisement...but this is an ubuntu help chat...lets stick to that...plus gkrellm does the same thing...and its more graphical (although i use both)
[09:07] <holycow> calamari, if you find the exact keystroke and sequence to recreate it, post a bug on the gimp website please
[09:07] <calamari> holycow: so it's gimp then?  badly programmed?
[09:07] <IIIEars> you can find it in synaptic a few minutes bending a script and you will will see why linux is so addictive
[09:07] <thegreedyturtle> But you dont *need* an operating system designed for gaming.
[09:07] <flex_> root@ubuntu:/home/flex # apt-get install dchroot debootstrap
[09:07] <flex_> Reading package lists... Done
[09:07] <flex_> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:07] <flex_> E: Couldn't find package dchroot
[09:08] <Delph> thegreedyturtle: but you agree that an OS designed for gaming will be a LOT better at it.
[09:08] <flex_> how do I get dchroot
[09:08] <pixil9> IIIEars, Thanks I've been trying to find this program for a long ass time.
[09:08] <^vir^> Delph, the xbox was designed to take the place of a console & yet it performs poorly & gta san andrios on the ps2 is bad aswell
[09:08] <IIIEars> dazzed - ya got me stuttering - lol
[09:08] <abelli> ciao, does someone here know what burning app is going to be supported in ubuntu?
[09:08] <dazzed> IIIEars: why does torsmo make linux so addictive...they have things like that for windows...and has nothing to do with the linux way of computers
[09:08] <holycow> calamari, on the contrari, gimp is extraordinary and i've done commercial work in it.  there are bugs in all software, it's something you need to expect.  even pshop has bugs
[09:08] <calamari> holycow: thanks .. at least it wasn't something I pushed then :)
[09:08] <calamari> holycow: yeah.. usualyl when an app crashes (at least in Windows) I get some kind of dialog box or explanation
[09:09] <Delph> ^vir^: uhh, yeah. But a bad example of an implementation is not sufficient to disprove a generalisation of an idea.
[09:09] <Tuxicity> Jimmothy, wait, I think i misunderstood your question
[09:09] <madman_> just a quicky, can a stock install of ubuntu access NTFS partitions?
[09:09] <IIIEars> first its free second you can change it to be want *you* want it to be. (wide grin)
[09:09] <holycow> calamari, if you started gimp from command line, you would get an error message too.
[09:09] <thegreedyturtle> Delph: I agree that an OS designed for gaming will be better at it, but not a *lot* better. It's the hardware, man. Consider, the Xbox runs nothing but a stripped down version of Windows 2000. Why is it more powerful than a PS2? 'cuz MS threw a better processor and more ram into it!
[09:09] <Delph> what CPU does an xbox have? somewhere around a celery 700, yes?
[09:10] <calamari> holycow: hmm.. sounds like I need to write a wrapper program for cases like this, then :)
[09:10] <Delph> and incidentally, windows2000 is no better a model for a gaming OS than linux.
[09:10] <^vir^> yes madman_  but it won't be able to write to ntfs & you gotta tell it to mount the drive but yeah basicaly it does have out of the box support for ntfs
[09:10] <holycow> calamari, lol perhaps :)
[09:10] <Jimmothy> Tuxicity: i'm considering adding gnome-terminal and irssi -! to start up, that's why i need them in one
[09:10] <bsmith_> has anybody experienced a long delay between invoking gkrellm and having the window appear?
[09:10] <thegreedyturtle> Dunno, the real reason that it runs equiv to a computer is beacuse it's only got to run at 640 by 400 or whatever a TV is
[09:10] <thegreedyturtle> resolution*
[09:11] <madman_> thanks ^vir^ appreciated :)
[09:11] <Xylene|Linux> anyone know how to remove something from the gnome applications menu?
[09:11] <^vir^> Delph, only consoles that are like consoles are the hand helds
[09:11] <thegreedyturtle> Delph:  I think we are going to start hitting a lot more games that run cross platform with the uptake of C# in gaming development.
[09:11] <Xylene|Linux> i installed fvwm and some other wm's, but i think it was something with fvwm that somehow added this debian menu to the application menu in gnome and i have no idea how to get rid of it
[09:11] <IIIEars> ^vir^ - you just saved me some money.
[09:11] <^vir^> madman_, see ubuntuguide.org so you know the mount command
[09:12] <thegreedyturtle> Delph: But I don't know if C# is worth using for now, it's still got that overhead that game devs want to avoid.
[09:12] <Delph> ^vir^: Linux, Win2k, etc... are based on multi-user, multi-app kernels, that do lots of memory protection etc... A good gaming system, well designed, would run entirely in ring0, forgetting about protected mode context switch overheads, and whole big heaps of other related junk.
[09:12] <Tuxicity> Jimmothy, ok but you want irssi to start inside the gnome-terminal, is that it?
[09:13] <holycow> Xylene|Linux, go to ubuntu website and find info on gnome menu editor, install it and thank Amaranth for that cool tool :)
[09:13] <drcodedd2> Hi all
[09:13] <drcodedd2> I did it
[09:13] <^vir^> Delph, you just summed up a handheld basicaly
[09:13] <Jimmothy> Tuxicity: yeah
[09:13] <drcodedd2> I setup the shorewall
[09:13] <Xylene|Linux> thanks holycow
[09:13] <holycow> drcodedd2, not again? *sigh*
[09:13] <drcodedd2> it now work
[09:13] <Delph> ^vir^: uhhm Yes.
[09:13] <holycow> drcodedd2, j/k!!!
[09:13] <Delph> They do what they do *very well*
[09:13] <holycow> Xylene|Linux, no worries
[09:13] <Amaranth> holycow: bleh, i quit a game so i could see why someone said my name :P
[09:13] <drcodedd2> is there any backup software that is open sorce
[09:13] <drcodedd2> I can use as client server
[09:13] <holycow> Amaranth, rofl :)
[09:13] <drcodedd2> I mean to install it in linux as server and connect to it with client?
[09:14] <^vir^> Delph, lets face it the console market have tried stepping up to the pc market with things
[09:14] <holycow> drcodedd2, yes, bacula seems pretty cool
[09:14] <holycow> check out bacula.org, and the packages are all in repositories
[09:14] <thegreedyturtle> Delph: I think that this is something we'll disagree on, because you seem to want your game system to do games really really well. There's nothing wrong with that in and of itself, but I don't *want* my 200 dollar system do be so simple. I want email and DVDs and mp3s and it to whiten my teeth while I sleep, and our difference is I'm *willing* to give up preformance for that overhead.
[09:14] <holycow> there is a windows client as well
[09:14] <drcodedd2> thanx
[09:14] <drcodedd2> I will check it
[09:15] <drcodedd2> btw:If I want to format ext3 /dev/hdb
[09:15] <Delph> thegreedyturtle: so to return to the start of this argument.... linux is going to have a performance hit over consoles. =:)
[09:15] <drcodedd2> How can I do it?
[09:15] <Xylene|Linux> holycow, i installed that program but it doesn't show the menu. would you like a screenshot of what it is on the menu?
[09:16] <thegreedyturtle> Delph: I won't disagree with that!
[09:16] <^vir^> i do agree that Delph  is partly right a default linux\mac\win is bloated with unneeded rubbish
[09:16] <flex_> is there a way to add media to apt-get so I can get dchroot?
[09:16] <kanuha> can anyone tell me if http://www.kde-look.org/ is up?
[09:16] <holycow> Xylene|Linux, alt/f2, type in menu-editor
[09:17] <Delph> ^vir^: and it's going to be hard to add in a properly configurable, abstracted, fast, extensible way support for all these gaming-related objects without the support of the manufacturers themselves.
[09:17] <holycow> Xylene|Linux, menu editor will show up in apps / system tools when you either restart gnome or restart gnome panel
[09:17] <^vir^> its up kanuha
[09:17] <chavo> kanuha, works for me.
[09:17] <thegreedyturtle> how do i edit mime types again?
[09:17] <kanuha> I get a could not be found error
[09:17] <drcodedd2> I dont see bacula windows client
[09:18] <^vir^> Delph, as soon as linux becomes more of a desktop machine i'm sure companies will start supporting linux
[09:18] <dazzed_> how do u kill a ghost screen name
[09:18] <drcodedd2> k
[09:18] <drcodedd2> found
[09:18] <holycow> bacula-client  <-- whats that?
[09:18] <LinuxJones> drcodedd2, you can use fdisk /dev/hdb or you can install a graphical tool like gparted
[09:18] <holycow> drcodedd2, enaable universed and sudo apt-get update
[09:18] <Xylene|Linux> holycow, that didn't work. i am uploading a screenshot of the menu i am getting
[09:19] <drcodedd2> thanx
[09:19] <holycow> Xylene|Linux, what didn't work?
[09:19] <drcodedd2> fdisk will format it as ext3
[09:19] <holycow> if you installed menu editor, then you can use it no?
[09:19] <^vir^> Delph, tried e17 yet?
[09:19] <LinuxJones> drcodedd2, yeah if you tell it press l and it will list the available types I think it's #83
[09:21] <Xylene|Linux> holycow, when i run the menu editor it doesn't show the menu i am trying to get rid of,http://img200.echo.cx/img200/5301/debianmenu7fe.jpg
[09:21] <Xylene|Linux> err http://img200.echo.cx/img200/5301/debianmenu7fe.jpg so you can click it
[09:21] <holycow> Xylene|Linux, debian?
[09:21] <Xylene|Linux> yeah
[09:22] <holycow> rofl
[09:22] <Xylene|Linux> it wasn't there before
[09:22] <nydust> what packages do i need for to get mysql to work with apache2?
[09:22] <LinuxJones> Xylene|Linux, that's the old crappy/useless Debian Menu :D
[09:22] <holycow> okay well first your in the wrong channel,  but is that gnome2.10 or 2.8?
[09:22] <Xylene|Linux> i installed fvwm and i believe that's when it started showing up
[09:22] <nydust> i cant find any libapache2-mysql package in apt-cache search
[09:22] <Xylene|Linux> well i figured i could ask here, but ok, it's 2.10
[09:22] <holycow> second if it's 2.8 you can't get rid of it,  you can only empty the contents of the submenus
[09:23] <Xylene|Linux> it was right after i installed fvwm it started showing up
[09:23] <holycow> oh not sure then, theoretically its gone from 2.10
[09:23] <XTCboarder> nydust search for mysql
[09:23] <XTCboarder> and view the list
[09:23] <nydust> XTCboarder, i have
[09:23] <XTCboarder> :/
[09:23] <holycow> Xylene|Linux, try the #gnome-debian channel on irc.gnome.org and #debian here
[09:23] <Delph> ^vir^: no; how many people support it =:)
[09:23] <Xylene|Linux> bleh, i'd rather reinstall ubuntu all together than ask those pricks in #debian anything
[09:23] <Xylene|Linux> they're the biggest bunch of snobs on the planet
[09:23] <nydust> XTCboarder, but i dint find any packacges named apache and mysql
[09:23] <LinuxJones> Xylene|Linux, lol
[09:23] <XTCboarder> libapache2-mod-auth-mysql
[09:24] <holycow> Xylene|Linux, hehe :)
[09:24] <FR500> my desktop icons and wallpaper don't show after restarting xserver
[09:24] <nydust> XTCboarder, its installed
[09:24] <Xylene|Linux> you know it's true!
[09:24] <FR500> what can i do?
[09:24] <holycow> Xylene|Linux, they only get a bad rep because of 2 or 3 idiots, too bad they don't ban for poor attitude
[09:24] <XTCboarder> !!
[09:24] <LinuxJones> Xylene|Linux, it's been 3 years since I left #Debian and I don't plan on ever going back
[09:24] <holycow> the rest are cool and very helpfull
[09:24] <XTCboarder> libapache2-mod-php4
[09:24] <XTCboarder> and mysql for php4
[09:24] <XTCboarder> that's the way
[09:25] <Xylene|Linux> LinuxJones, heh, yeah, i used to use debian and go in there for help, i after a while i just said screw it and used gentoo, those people are much friendlier
[09:25] <XTCboarder> php4-mysql
[09:25] <XTCboarder> that's the one nydu
[09:25] <XTCboarder> st
[09:25] <^vir^> well Delph i'm using it without any probs its nice when its finished i bet you any money most will convert over it looks like it could be as good as mac os if not better
[09:26] <Xylene|Linux> is there like a big config file for the gnome menu?
[09:26] <XTCboarder> u alive?
[09:27] <Delph> ^vir^: I shall believe it when I see it =:)
[09:28] <darkling> Is there a known problem with breezy acting as an NFS server?
[09:28] <holycow> darkling, expect problems first because its unreleased ...
[09:29] <holycow> darkling, second you shouldn't be using ubuntu as any type of server, its based on debian unstable and thats just asking for trouble
[09:29] <darkling> holycow: I am expecting problems. I just wanted to know if there was a well-known problem with it.
[09:29] <holycow> never mind that ubuntu has a 'server' dealy at the beginning of the install
[09:29] <darkling> It's not a "production" server.
[09:29] <holycow> darkling, nothing off the top of my head
[09:29] <darkling> I'm just sharing filesystems round my home network.
[09:29] <holycow> *nod* just mentioning, in case of the noob factor
[09:29] <holycow> :)
[09:30] <darkling> Heh.
[09:30] <xukun> are there many peaple using breezy, and ist wise to upgrade now?
[09:30] <holycow> xukun, no and no
[09:30] <darkling> xukun: Probably not, and no. :)
[09:30] <holycow> in that order
[09:30] <dazzed> xukun
[09:30] <dazzed> no
[09:30] <dazzed> lol
[09:30] <xukun> point taken
[09:30] <blackbird_> hello, i have a simple question at least it looks simple, how can you connect to an external usb 2.0 drive?
[09:31] <blackbird_> in device manager i can see the name of the drive but how to reach it?
[09:31] <holycow> blackbird_, plug it in
[09:31] <dazzed> blackbird_: plug it in?
[09:31] <holycow> it will appear as a link on your desktop
[09:31] <blackbird_> it doesn't do that
[09:31] <dazzed> blackbird goto /media
[09:31] <holycow> bad file system?
[09:31] <dazzed> see if its there
[09:31] <blackbird_> it's ntfs
[09:32] <dazzed> ull have to mount it
[09:32] <drcodedd2> any one setup bckula?
[09:32] <holycow> lol i was about to ask, i had that once, i didn't have time to rectify it
[09:32] <holycow> drcodedd2, not yet unfotunately
[09:33] <blackbird_> but how do you mount something? it's not in the /media
[09:33] <blackbird_> sorry first time i try this ;)
[09:33] <montse> hi
[09:33] <drcodedd2> mount /dev/cdrom /any dir
[09:33] <dazzed> u see th dev in your /dev right blackbird?
[09:34] <montse> em podeu dir en quin canal  estic
[09:34] <holycow> montse, what language is that? i don't recognize it
[09:35] <smouche> portuguese I think
[09:35] <xerox> Hi! I have a problem: trying to freezing (via the logout menu) a laptop didn't worked, it completely stopped and I forced a manual poweroff.  Then, hotplug doesn't work anymore!  If some file was corrupted.. is there a way to reinstall that subsystem?
[09:35] <montse> I speak catalan. I want to know in which place am I
[09:35] <blackbird_> i'm checking, if i can find an explorer lol
[09:35] <dazzed> blackbird_: first do this for me goto a term and type 'lsusb' and see if it picks it up
[09:35] <wwalker> I installed ubuntu yesterday from ISO.  Today I ran apt-get update and apt-get upgrade to can any fixes.  It din't upgrade anything.  Are there really no updates at all for HH?
[09:36] <blackbird_> he does find 2 things
[09:36] <blackbird_> 1 my hard drive 2 my mouse
[09:36] <xerox> What if I'll do "apt-get --purge remove hotplug" and "apt-get install hotplug", would I lose some important configuration? If so, how do I reconfigure it?
[09:36] <dazzed> blackbird_: to mount type this sudo mount /dev/*usb dev* /mnt -t ntfs -o umask=0222'
[09:36] <xukun> I dont get update in days now
[09:36] <dazzed> blackbird_: "mount /dev/*usb dev* /mnt -t ntfs -o umask=0222"
[09:37] <SeeleyUSMC> How do you change the login screen's picture?
[09:37] <dazzed> blackbird_: btw you know you cant write to ntfs from ext*
[09:37] <holycow> SeeleyUSMC, system / admin / login screen
[09:37] <LinuxJones> xerox, no you should not have to configure anything but that might not be your problem. Have you searched the forums ?
[09:38] <xerox> LinuxJones, no :( But I think I can't go that way - here's what I get: "The following packages will be REMOVED: gnome-volume-manager hal hal-device-manager hotplug hwdb-client ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop udev"
[09:38] <xerox> LinuxJones, would it be safe to try? :-\
[09:38] <Sphearion> Samba question :  http://www.pastebin.com/275430 - can someone tell me why the movies and television share will NOT let me access them?
[09:39] <LinuxJones> xerox, you can try it but I would remove ubuntu-desktop as well then re-install that and it should re-install all of the dependencies for you.
[09:39] <blackbird_> hm
[09:39] <blackbird_> should it place an icon or something?
[09:39] <dazzed> Sphearion: dont get me started on samba...it hates people
[09:39] <dazzed> no youll have to direct yourself to where u mounted it
[09:40] <xerox> LinuxJones, also, I get "hal       8475  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        Z    21:39   0:00 [40-hal-hotplug-]  <defunct>" in the process listings.. maybe that's the problem.
[09:40] <wwalker> I installed ubuntu yesterday from ISO.  Today I ran apt-get update and apt-get upgrade to catch any fixes.  It didn't upgrade anything.  Are there really no updates at all for HH?
[09:40] <kanuha> help, I need help with a hard drive
[09:40] <dazzed> wwalker...have u setup ur sources list
[09:40] <LinuxJones> wwalker, there have been no updates for Hoary that I can remember sine it's release
[09:40] <LinuxJones> since*
[09:41] <blackbird_> i have done something wrong i think ;)
[09:41] <dazzed> blackbird did you do it to /mnt?
[09:41] <dazzed> just goto nautilus and point it to /mnt
[09:41] <dazzed> and it should be there
[09:41] <LinuxJones> xerox, that's not looking good :D
[09:41] <Madeye> guys, I have weird issue, there is a site I can ping and traceroute, but I cant http it?
[09:41] <FR500> what pack in synaptic is the kernel source?
[09:41] <blackbird_> there's nothing in it
[09:41] <Delph> Madeye: maybe it isn't running a http server...
[09:41] <Xappe> nice, i got myself an ubuntu logo instead of the gnome foot next to the applications menu
[09:41] <Nalioth> Madeye perhaps they are not running httpd?
[09:41] <blackbird_> i opened the terminal and typed that sentence
[09:41] <blackbird_> then checked /mnt
[09:42] <dazzed> blackbird_: goto a term and make sure u typed specifcally what i told you
[09:42] <mcphail> Madeye: you may have a nameserver problem
[09:42] <blackbird_> do i need to type the " aswell?
[09:42] <IIIEars> how can i add an application to the menu
[09:42] <Sphearion> dazzed, well if you know what the problem is, a bit of advice would be nice :)
[09:42] <dazzed> blackbird_: and after you hit enter did it give you an error or return u to another comman line
[09:42] <xerox> LinuxJones, what can I do?
[09:42] <dazzed> blackbird_: no "
[09:42] <Delph> mcphail: unlikely if it can resolve the site for ICMP lala.
[09:42] <blackbird_> gave me a bunch of text
[09:42] <mcphail> Delph: not at all. Same discussion the other day on ##linux
[09:42] <Thorrn4> hello FELLOW UBUNTU USERS!!!!!!!!! I have switched to Ubuntu (it is my 2nd Distro; Ive been using Linux for a Month now!!!)
[09:42] <LinuxJones> xerox, your running Hoary right ?
[09:42] <Madeye> mcphail,  can you check this please http://www.easyhttp.com/jad/2005/04/error-haloscancom-and-me.html
[09:43] <dazzed> Sphearion: one day i woke up and my samba wont even load past the Microsoft Windows Network icon...i gave up on it ... after months of it working fine and nothing changed
[09:43] <blackbird_> will typ it again
[09:43] <Delph> mcphail: what situation with nameservers would lead to ICMP messages getting through but not tcp ?
[09:43] <xerox> LinuxJones, right
[09:43] <Sphearion> dazzed, ahh I c
[09:43] <Tuxicity> Thorrn4, wooooohoooo :D
[09:43] <dazzed> blackbird_: sudo mount /dev/*usb dev* /mnt -t ntfs -o umask=0222
[09:43] <xerox> LinuxJones, /etc/init.d/hotplug restart -- and magically my usbdisk paritions were mounted, and opened in gnome
[09:43] <Nalioth> yes, windoze has a way of changing its mind whenever the mood strikes it
[09:44] <mcphail> Delph: Some guy had 2 named nameservers. Only worked for http when they were in the correct order. Don't know why. He could ping etc.
[09:44] <bsmith_> can i configure ubuntu's login screen so that a user can choose a window manager to launch?
[09:44] <wwalker> LinuxJones dazzed Thx.  I just figured I had soemthing broken.  I'm pointed at us.archive.ubuntu.com/hoary-updates.  I get the apt datbaase, just wan't anything to download
[09:44] <jazzka> hi!
[09:44] <dcraven> IIIEars: there is a menu editor in the forums.
[09:44] <XplOzIon> Help: problem with nautilus, when i close it it does open again
[09:44] <Delph> mcphail: any more details on how the nameservers were setup?
[09:44] <jazzka> which is your favourite font for gnome-terminal?
[09:44] <LinuxJones> xerox, I don't know if it is worth trying but can you boot to another kernel just to make sure it's not some issue with that particular kernel + your hardware ?
[09:44] <holycow> dazzed, perhaps you guys upgraded xp to latest service pack or something? hehe :) i read somewhere xp changed something in samaba yet again
[09:44] <kanuha> help, I need help with a hard drive
[09:44] <dcraven> bsmith_: are they not all listed unders sessions in gdm?
[09:45] <Delph> Madeye: can you "telnet hostname.com 80" and type rubbish in and see if it throws back a response?
[09:45] <dazzed> holycow: im serious like i used it the NIGHT BEFORE went to sleep woke up and now its no go...and my NFS doesnt work either
[09:45] <xerox> LinuxJones, sigh, it WAS working. Freezing & manual rebooting fscked it up.
[09:45] <Madeye> Delph, wont respont to telnet I have tried it
[09:45] <Tuxicity> see you all tomorow
[09:45] <dazzed> it just stalls when it tries to load workgroups
[09:45] <dr_willis> im useing XP and Service pack 2. haveing no hassles with samba. :P
[09:45] <blackbird_> doesn't work
[09:45] <dcraven> jazzka: I like Monospace 10.
[09:45] <skyrider> I've created local Ubuntu repository but apt-get refuses to use it because it is not signed. :( How can I sign it, i.e. what tools should I use to create Release and its signed version?
[09:45] <mcphail> Delph: he had one pointing to his router (i.e. correct) and one pointing to an old ISP nameserver which couldn't be resolved via his current ISP. Only worked when he put the router address first.
[09:46] <blackbird_> i do notice when i plug the hd in and out there is a quickbutton "sda1" appearing but disappears again 2 seconds later
[09:46] <bsmith_> dcraven: hmm, i didn't see the option, but perhaps
[09:46] <IIIEars> Thank You dcreaven - (i apologize for not seeing your message sooner.)
[09:46] <dr_willis> i also tend to make linux users with the same username and password on the xp and linux box's and i also am sure to add a smbpasswd for the linux users.
[09:46] <dcraven> bsmith_: that is where it is typically.
[09:46] <Madeye> Delph, telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
[09:46] <dazzed> blackbird_: are u trying to mount /dev/sda1
[09:46] <dr_willis> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/  - a Must read book on samba
[09:46] <bsmith_> dcraven: if they weren't, where would i configure gdm to recognize them?
[09:46] <dazzed> is that what u typed?
[09:46] <dcraven> IIIEars: busy channel.
[09:46] <LinuxJones> xerox, argh maybe something did get corrupted, try removing --purge hotplug and re-install again like you were going to try
[09:46] <dcraven> bsmith_: they are there.
[09:47] <xerox> LinuxJones, I'll try without --purge the first time
[09:47] <dazzed> blackbird_: do this for me ...goto your removeable devices/storage option in ur menu...and untick and tick every box that has to do with mounting usb dev....and then unplug the usb dev and plug it back in
[09:47] <LinuxJones> xerox, don't worry you won't mess it up
[09:47] <IIIEars> 530 is very large - must be something to this "Ubuntu" - eh? 9wide grin)
[09:47] <LinuxJones> xerox, by purging
[09:48] <xerox> LinuxJones, even if "ubuntu-desktop" is listed in the package to be removed?
[09:48] <xiaogil> About preg_replace(), how to change my pattern '/abc/i' so that it's only replaced the first time it is found by my replacement string ?
[09:48] <IIIEars> << just realized my keyboard prefers water over soda. - sticky keys
[09:48] <xerox> (With a *, tough)
[09:48] <LinuxJones> xerox, yeah that's ok
[09:48] <bsmith_> dcraven: okay, thanks
[09:49] <Nalioth> xerox you can always replace whatever from command line
[09:49] <LinuxJones> xerox, just install that (ubuntu-desktop) once you have removed hotplug and it will re-install everything for you
[09:49] <Delph> Madeye: even if you use the IP?
[09:49] <IIIEars> bsmith has a nice IP address - impressed
[09:49] <xerox> LinuxJones, I'm doing it
[09:49] <dazzed> blackbird_: u try that?
[09:49] <Thorrn4> I have a questions; I just newly installed Ubuntu on my system; is the account that I created the root account? because I opened the root terminal with my current password (I dont remember if the install process asked me 2 create a root account or a normal account)
[09:49] <xerox> I'd better reboot now, thanks much, let's see what happens.
[09:49] <LinuxJones> xerox, hopefully that will fix you up :)
[09:49] <blackbird_> doesn't work: i am in the /media map, when i unplug my usb and plug it back in a map appears with sda1 (with a small red cross in it) but it's gone again after a few seconds
[09:50] <xerox> LinuxJones, I hope so, thanks anyway
[09:50] <mcphail> Madeye: what do you have in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[09:50] <blackbird_> i tried what you said doesn't work yet (trying with 2 different drives both ntfs)
[09:50] <dazzed> blackbird_: u tried what i said?
[09:50] <Nalioth> Thorn4, ubuntu uses "sudo" like OSX does for your power needs
[09:50] <blackbird_> yep
[09:50] <Madeye> Delph, No, stuck at trying Trying <IP_ADDRESS>...
[09:50] <dazzed> hmmm
[09:50] <dazzed> its gotta be somethign with the drive then if u cant manually mount it and gnome cant do it for u
[09:51] <Delph> Madeye: then you've probably got some crazy filtering in the middle.
[09:51] <Madeye> Delph, but I can ping and traceroute
[09:51] <blackbird_> well one drive is a maxtor one touch
[09:51] <Delph> Madeye: yes
[09:51] <blackbird_> i can see it named as one touch in device manager
[09:51] <Delph> ICMP ping and traceroute are *not* the same packet as a TCP connection to port 80.
[09:51] <Delph> It's possible to block one and not the other.
[09:52] <SeeleyUSMC> Anyone here have an XBOX and Close Combat: First to Fight?
[09:52] <Epix> hello.
[09:52] <Delph> eg your ISP might let you ping anything ,but not connect to that ISP over HTTP or something.
[09:52] <Madeye> Delph, then How to check if is from my side/ my ISP side/ Haloscan itself?
[09:52] <Epix> can i change my WM in ubuntu? I want to use Flux.
[09:53] <dcraven> Epix: install it, then choose it from gdm.
[09:53] <Delph> Madeye: no idea
[09:53] <Delph> ask your ISP ask haloscan itself.
[09:53] <Jet2k5> dcraven, you around?
[09:53] <orp> WM?
[09:53] <Delph> the packets are presumably just getting blackholed somewhere between here and there
[09:53] <Epix> dcraven: what gdm does ubuntu use?
[09:53] <IIIEars> "Window Manager"
[09:53] <dcraven> Jet2k5: periodically.
[09:53] <orp> yes you can
[09:53] <Jet2k5> dcraven, awesome
[09:53] <dcraven> Epix: I think there is only on gdm, no?
[09:53] <Jet2k5> dcraven, I'm having some issues with the windows pluggins to play .wmv
[09:54] <Jet2k5> dcraven, I got totem-xine and w32codecs. and I can't seem to be able to play them
[09:54] <Epix> dcraven: i think theres a few
[09:54] <orp> Epix you can
[09:54] <Madeye> Delph,  anyway thank you, I have sent email to my ISP and haloscan
[09:54] <Thorrn4> can someone help me answer my question?
[09:54] <xerox> Nothing :-(
[09:54] <orp> just apt-get install fluxbox
[09:54] <dcraven> Epix: 2.6.0 is what I have here.
[09:54] <Epix> dcraven: ok
[09:55] <blackbird_> when i plug it in i get the sda1 map so he must find something
[09:55] <blackbird_> i suppose
[09:55] <IIIEars> what is the "apt" command to refresh the database?
[09:55] <blackbird_> (the map is gone again after a few seconds so can't click it)
[09:55] <LinuxJones> Thorrn4, the root account is locked by default
[09:55] <dcraven> Jet2k5: I don't do Windows crap so I'm not sure, sorry.
[09:55] <orp> apt-get update
[09:55] <Epix> well, atm im used to Debian. i admin a small server running it. but i want to make my workstation linuxy.
[09:55] <dcraven> IIIEars: apt-get update?
[09:55] <ryman_> how do I empty trash ?
[09:55] <IIIEars> Ah - Thank You orp.
[09:55] <xerox> LinuxJones, Sigh!
[09:56] <LinuxJones> xerox, :(
[09:56] <dcraven> IIIEars: man apt-get
[09:56] <Thorrn4> oh, ok LinuxJones, thank you
[09:56] <xerox> 10598 ?        Z      0:00 [40-hal-hotplug-]  <defunct>
[09:56] <xerox> 10607 ?        Z      0:00 [40-hal-hotplug-]  <defunct>
[09:56] <IIIEars> "" - dcraven. (linux user for 92 hours now - grin)
[09:56] <LinuxJones> xerox, check the forums I am sure you not the only one with that problem
[09:57] <orp> IIIEars mate nex time make apt-get
[09:57] <Epix> and, i have a HP printer connected to my copmputer by a lan. the computer plugs right into the lan. i needed to use the CD to intall it on my win box, but can i print from ubun
[09:57] <blackbird_> any more idea's dazzed? ;)
[09:57] <orp> and it gueave you options
[09:57] <Thorrn4> is there a built in firewall in Ubuntu that will load everytime the system loads?
[09:57] <dcraven> IIIEars: nice.
[09:57] <IIIEars> < have been online for about 7 hours today alone - linux is addictive
[09:57] <dazzed> blackbird_: nope :(
[09:57] <] BreliC[> anyone know which setting i have to tweak in Apache so that the domain name appears instead of the IP?
[09:57] <squareff> is there any possibility to set xkb to generate two (or more) symbols by just one keystroke?
[09:57] <] BreliC[> in the URL bar i mean
[09:58] <dcraven> IIIEars: you should stick around and help some newbs ;P
[09:58] <LinuxJones> Thorrn4, you can use iptables but there is a nice gui called firestarter that you should probably use
[09:58] <orp> and some one now how sniff a switch network?
[09:58] <blackbird_> i do have a cdrom cdrom0 floppy and floppy0 (don't know if they are supposed to be twice in it)
[09:58] <geargolem> enable dri in mesaglide/ hoary?
[09:58] <malte> cdrom and floppy are only symlinks
[09:58] <IIIEars> dcraven - Will i ever have to reboot this computer? it's eerie it just goes and goes - Windows was -never- like this.
[09:58] <malte> blackbird_, ^--
[09:58] <dazzed> do u only have 1 cdrom and floppy?
[09:59] <dazzed> oh well yeah theres supposed to be 2
[09:59] <dcraven> IIIEars: only to boot into a new kernel.
[09:59] <dazzed> 0 and no numbers is the same
[09:59] <malte> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root    6 Mar 15 15:33 cdrom -> cdrom0/
[09:59] <nufan> What file controls the default file manager?
[09:59] <Jet2k5> dcraven, well it's not generally only windows I get the same thing with other formats like .avi
[09:59] <IIIEars> amazing.
[09:59] <blackbird_> i don't have a floppy at all ;)
[09:59] <blackbird_> (it's a laptop)
[09:59] <malte> nufan, in gnome?
[09:59] <nufan> Yes
[09:59] <dazzed> well my floppy doesnt work or mount but it still picks it up
[09:59] <nufan> I want to change natilus to enlightenment
[10:00] <malte> nufan, there should be something like "preferred applications" somewhere in the config menu
[10:00] <LinuxJones> Thorrn4, there is a setup it will ask you questions when you first run Firestarter
[10:00] <geargolem> How to enable dri on mesaglide/hoary?
[10:00] <nufan> malte: that has 'Web Browser', 'Mail Reader' and 'Terminal' is all
[10:00] <blackbird_> certain i'm doing something wrong, 2 different drives and one touch is a know external drive so i reckon it should work no?
[10:01] <KKXX> how to nokia 6100 and linux?
[10:01] <dazzed> well if ur doing what i told u both ways...then its nto you
[10:01] <dazzed> its the drive
[10:02] <blackbird_> i typed the exact sentence in my terminal and gave me a lot of text (no errors)
[10:02] <kanuha> help, I need help with a hard drive
[10:02] <mcphail> Which is the best repository for XFCE? the one with hoary or the one from os-works.com?
[10:02] <geargolem> enable DRI in hoary?
[10:02] <Nalioth> it
[10:03] <Thorrn4> LinuxJones, is iptables built into Ubuntu
[10:03] <Xappe> hmm, where is bin2iso? i can't find it in the repos
[10:03] <Nalioth> 's all greek to me, my ubuntu box is an Apple iBook
[10:03] <dazzed> blackbird_: what kinda text
[10:03] <dazzed> it should just send u straight to a nother term lin
[10:03] <dazzed> e
[10:03] <malte> nufan, oh, my bad. then i dunno
[10:03] <Nalioth> Xappe do you mean bchunk?
[10:03] <NigelS> Thorrn4: naturally
[10:04] <KKXX> ludzie kto z kraju hihhih
[10:04] <Xappe> Nalioth: i mean the too to convert cue/bin to iso
[10:04] <LinuxJones> Thorrn4, it in the kernel yeah but it uses the cli or write a script to tell it what to do
[10:04] <Xappe> *tool
[10:04] <blackbird_> "a device can be given by name, say /dev/hda1"
[10:04] <blackbird_> etc
[10:04] <Nalioth> Xappe i believe the app is called binchunker or binchunk or something like that
[10:04] <Thorrn4> I never knew that....I very new 2 Linux
[10:04] <kanuha> Is this a correct command in fstab for a fat32 drive ?  /dev/hdd1       /spare          vfat    unmask=000      0       0
[10:04] <dazzed> that means your dev isnt even getting established
[10:04] <LinuxJones> Thorrn4, install Firestarter it's very easy to use
[10:04] <blackbird_> for many more details, say man 8 mount
[10:04] <blackbird_> that's the last sentencde
[10:04] <blackbird_> -d
[10:05] <dazzed> blackbird_: did u do that 'lsusb' thing
[10:05] <Xappe> Nalioth: ah, ok. I thought it was bin2iso, thanks
[10:05] <nufan> Anyone know how to change the default window manager?
[10:05] <blackbird_> yep
[10:05] <dazzed> when they are plugged in
[10:05] <LinuxJones> Thorrn4, >> http://www.fs-security.com/
[10:05] <dazzed> whats it return
[10:05] <blackbird_> Bus 001 Device 009: ID 0d49:7000 Maxtor
[10:05] <Thorrn4> what is the root password?
[10:05] <dr_willis> nufan,  you mean to cange it in gnome? or change the default to KDE or Fluxbox for the user to login to?
[10:05] <dazzed> hmmm
[10:05] <orp> RFM
[10:05] <dazzed> i dunno what to tell u blackbird_ sorry
[10:05] <nufan> Natilus --> Enlightenment
[10:06] <geargolem> How do enable sharks with frickin lasers on their heads in hoary?
[10:06] <Nalioth> Xappe Thorrn4 the root pwd is your pwd
[10:06] <dr_willis> nufan,  Hmm Natulus is a file manager.. and Enlightenment is a Windowmanager.. 2 different things.
[10:06] <dazzed> geargolem: /enable/sharks-with_lazers
[10:06] <blackbird_> i will continue searching then ;)
[10:06] <Epix> hmm... isnt there no root in Ubuntu
[10:06] <Nalioth> Thorrn4 the root pwd is your pwd
[10:06] <nufan> willis: Sorry
[10:06] <geargolem> thanks dazzed
[10:06] <flames> hi, how can i mount a ext3 particion to /data writeable by all users? i try this (fstab): /dev/hda6 /data ext3 defaults 0 0 but i can't write as normal user
[10:06] <blackbird_> thanks
[10:07] <geargolem> dazzed, how about dri?
[10:07] <Epix> and can Ubuntu be multiuser?
[10:07] <LinuxJones> Thorrn4, you use sudo -s (enter your user password) to get to a root console
[10:07] <dr_willis> flames,  for an ext3 partion you need to chmod all the files and dirs i do beluve
[10:07] <Thorrn4> so in the terminal...Im already a root? or no?
[10:07] <Xappe> Nalioth: ehm?
[10:07] <nufan> I'm not exactly intelligent in these things :P
[10:07] <dr_willis> Epix,  yes. easially.
[10:07] <LinuxJones> Epix, it is
[10:07] <dcraven> nufan: If you want to change Metacity for Enlightenment, you should be able to pull it off with "killall metacity && enlightenment&"
[10:07] <Nalioth> Xappe try this here dmg2iso  http://vu1tur.eu.org/tools/
[10:07] <dr_willis> Epix,  just add more users.  :P but thats easially changed.
[10:08] <dcraven> geargolem: huh?
[10:08] <mcphail> nufan: I can help you change window manager (I think), but not file manager
[10:09] <Epix> dr_willis: can you sudo su?
[10:09] <flames> drwxrwxrwx    2 root root  4096 2005-04-24 20:08 data
[10:09] <geargolem> How can I enable DRI in Hoary, dcraven?
[10:09] <kent> Has any one installed wordpress from ubuntu? I want to know what step is needed to make it fully work. Or more excactly, to make it use translations. I saved a .mo file in wp-includes/languages/  but I cant get it to use it :(
[10:09] <stazich> hey, is anyone using WindowMaker in ubuntu?
[10:09] <dcraven> geargolem: It probably depends on your video hardware.
[10:09] <dr_willis> Epix,   yes.. or you could 'sudo passwd'  :P and set the password for root.
[10:09] <Thorrn4> what would I do? "apt-get install firestarter"?
[10:09] <kanuha> flames: thanks you solved my problem
[10:10] <flames> ?
[10:10] <dcraven> wife wants attention... biab
[10:10] <Epix> dr_willis: haha. so its designed with newbies in mind?
[10:10] <LinuxJones> Thorrn4, do you have the universe repository enabled ?
[10:10] <kanuha> flames: I had unmask instead of umask
[10:10] <nufan> dcraven: It came up with the box about editing start up files
[10:10] <nufan> I don't want to do that without knowing how to change it back
[10:11] <mcphail> nufan: you can change window managers in the configuration editor
[10:11] <noiz> have the ubuntu 5.04 cds shipped yet, or when will they be shipped?
[10:11] <blackbird_> ok you can't play a dvd with a clean install of ubuntu? ;)
[10:11] <nufan> mcphail: Where is that?
[10:11] <Thorrn4> what is that LinuxJones?
[10:12] <LinuxJones> blackbird_, www.ubuntuguide.org see restricted formats
[10:12] <geargolem> dcraven, SiS 630/730 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
[10:12] <Epix> how big is the Ubuntu community and how long has it been around?
[10:12] <Nalioth> blackbird no dvd, mp3 or other 'closed' formats
[10:12] <LinuxJones> Thorrn4, that is a repository with thousands of applications like Firestarter in it
[10:12] <Epix> and how do they afford to give out free CDs?
[10:12] <mcphail> Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration editor -> desktop -> gnome -> apps -> window manager
[10:12] <elmaya> they are rich ppl
[10:12] <LinuxJones> Thorrn4, goto www.ubuntuguide.org it tells you how to add the repository
[10:12] <dcraven> Epix: Quite big, ~6 months, and the founding father is a gazillionaire.
[10:13] <wdh> does anyone know wether pci 3200 ddr ram fits in a motherboard which uses 2700 ddr ram by default?? is there any form of backwards compatibility there?
[10:13] <LinuxJones> Epix, because Mark Shuttleworth is a millionair 500 times over :)
[10:13] <LinuxJones> millionaire*
[10:13] <thegreedyturtle> The CEO of canonical was the guy who payed x million dollars to go to space
[10:13] <Epix> LinuxJones: and what happens if he dont want to support the project anymore
[10:13] <dcraven> 20 million.
[10:13] <pilo> anybody an idea why my ubuntu freezes two of three boots with starting the hotplug-system? the pc is about six years old and has no strane hardware in it i think *g
[10:13] <Xappe> if you can afford space travel, you can afford shipping some cd:s
[10:13] <nufan> mcphail: thanks muchly
[10:13] <nufan> I'llt ry that
[10:13] <thegreedyturtle> Then the community suppourts it
[10:14] <Epix> ok
[10:14] <dcraven> Epix: like most other distrobutions.
[10:14] <holycow> Epix, i think they mostly do it for the third world countries ... internet connectivity is abysmal in africa for example, 56k is considered a luxure in lots of places and when available is very inconsistent.  cheaper to send cd than dl
[10:14] <thegreedyturtle> Canonical just gives ubuntu a kick in the pants for it's suppourt
[10:14] <Epix> so it does have a good community base
[10:14] <thegreedyturtle> Canonical doesn't actually own or maintain ubuntu
[10:14] <blackbird_> oki thanks
[10:14] <thechitowncubs> I have a problem on my Dell Inspiron 1100, the display only shows video in the center of the screen, but the reso. is set to 1024x768... I have read somewhere that I need to specify the monitor model but where can I do that?
[10:14] <blackbird_> need a reboot, brb
[10:14] <holycow> Epix, not only that, you can buy support from canonical i believe
[10:14] <dcraven> Epix: check out how many people are in this channel alone.
[10:15] <Thorrn4> where can I find this "universe repository enabled"?
[10:15] <Epix> dcraven: noice
[10:15] <thegreedyturtle> thechitowncubs: in your xorg.conf file, be sure and research before you diddle with it, and back it up as well
[10:15] <thechitowncubs> isn't there some sort of xorg config gui?
[10:15] <Epix> dcraven: and will it run fastishly on a AMD athlon 1GhZ
[10:15] <dcraven> Epix: not to mention the #kubuntu and multi-language channels... And people who don't do IRC.
[10:15] <LinuxJones> Epix, he is in it for the long haul :)
[10:16] <kanuha> Thorn: this will answer almost all of your questions.  http://ubuntuguide.org/
[10:16] <dcraven> Epix: I run it on that same setup. Runs faster on that than this 2.8GHz Celeron.
[10:16] <thegreedyturtle> thechitowncubs: there's some autoconfigurators out there, but they run from the command line with a terminal 'gui'
[10:16] <thechitowncubs> If you have already upgraded to BIOS A29 (or newer), then you won't have any trouble Redhat 9's XFree86 hardware autodetection. Just remember to specify the monitor type when asked, or run redhat-config-xfree86 after installation has completed. The monitor is a "Dell 1024X notebook display" and you must specify it.
[10:16] <kanuha> Thorrn4: this will answer almost all of your questions.  http://ubuntuguide.org/
[10:16] <preglow> i'm trying to install breezy, and get an error with package base-files trying to overwrite /lib64, which is also in package lsb-core, any pointers on how to fix?
[10:16] <thechitowncubs> Thats what I was reading
[10:16] <mcphail> Anyone using Xfce?
[10:16] <Nalioth> preglow are you jumpng the gun a wee little bit?
[10:16] <Epix> i hate windows... network connections are so wierd... I WANT TO GO ifconfig eth0 up/down
[10:16] <preglow> Nalioth: i might
[10:16] <Epix> :P
[10:17] <FR500> where is the kernel source installed?
[10:17] <preglow> but i really want gcc4, damnit :P
[10:17] <Nalioth> preglow i havent even found the repository addy for breezy
[10:17] <thechitowncubs> thegreedyturtle: what do you think I should do?
[10:17] <dcraven> FR500: /usr/src
[10:17] <Epix> how big is a standard ubun install
[10:17] <preglow> Nalioth: it's the same as before, just s/hoary/breezy/
[10:18] <Nalioth> preglow, ok
[10:18] <dcraven> Epix: you have more questions than the 5 year old next door.. haha
[10:18] <kanuha> anyone known why I can't seem to get to www.kde-look.org/  when others say it is up?
[10:18] <dantheman> Epix: 1.8 gigs
[10:18] <dcraven> ;)
[10:18] <Thorrn4> to download Firestarter, http://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/firestarter.html ....which file choice, do i choose?
[10:18] <Epix> lol
[10:18] <Nalioth> although i'm sure i'll break the pixels right off this ibook if i up to breezy.. .. ..
[10:18] <dcraven> Epix: why is the sky blue?
[10:19] <kanuha> anyone known why I can't seem to get to www.kde-look.org/  when others say it is up?
[10:19] <thegreedyturtle> dcraven: because blue is the longest wavelength of visible light
[10:19] <LinuxJones> Thorrn4, don't install from Debian repositories
[10:19] <thegreedyturtle> dcraven: techically the sky is all colors, but they all mash together and get overlayed by the blue
[10:20] <FR500> dcraven, should there be a linux-2.6.10 dir there?
[10:20] <dcraven> thegreedyturtle: yeah yeah ;P.. In a channel of geeks I knew someone would actually answer, then we'd debate.. lol
[10:20] <FR500> there is not in mine}
[10:20] <Epix> dcraven: because of certain gasses in the stratosphere
[10:20] <thegreedyturtle> XD
[10:20] <thechitowncubs> Ah, I found the soltution
[10:20] <thechitowncubs> on the forums
[10:20] <dcraven> FR500: if you want the source, install the linux-source package from apt.
[10:20] <thechitowncubs> i love the ubuntu forums
[10:20] <neofeed> liroth, well... Okay so once you are here I hope you can figure out how to get the help of the community. I really need my sleep. Good night bud!
[10:20] <FR500> i did
[10:20] <noiz> have the ubuntu 5.04 cds shipped yet, or when will they be shipped?
[10:20] <FR500> dcraven, i did
[10:20] <svyatogor> hi people! a small and dumb question. i decided to try ubuntu, but without gnome bloat, so I installed piece by piece with openbox env. now the question - how do I get OpenOffice use those nice gtk2 widgets? (yes, openoffice.org-gtk-gnome is installed!)