[12:01] <whazilla> sethk i got ubuntu live dvd
[12:01] <sethk> whazilla, yes, I know, and you are trying to mount a partition on your disk drive?
[12:01] <whazilla> k hda
[12:01] <whazilla> is thera probe tool ?
[12:02] <Blak`Mamba> !google nvidia
[12:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google nvidia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <sethk> whazilla, yes, but there are easier ways.
[12:02] <sethk> whazilla, from the command line, try this:
[12:02] <whazilla> tell me
[12:02] <nozorro> !nvidia
[12:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:02] <whazilla> i fucked up trying to set paths for eclipse
[12:02] <bamzin> !flash
[12:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !language
[12:02] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:02] <sethk> whazilla, fsck -n /dev/hda1
[12:03] <rapha> Hi all!
[12:03] <sethk> whazilla, and paste the output of that to the paste web site.
[12:03] <rapha> Does somebody know if Ubuntu patches its Dapper kernel with Linux-PHC?
[12:03] <harleypig> afm\colo: looks like I have to run make (and make test) first as well
[12:03] <whazilla> k i'll join on diff nick
[12:03] <fatbrain> Hello, do I need a software firewall, and if so, which should I get?
[12:03] <afm\colo> harleypig: you use checkinstall instead of make install, yes
[12:03] <harleypig> so it's really to replace the sudo make install with a debian package?
[12:03] <nozorro> fatbrain: no, if you don't install server programs
[12:03] <afm\colo> fatbrain: no, you don't need such a thing
[12:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall > fatbrain
[12:04] <afm\colo> and if you would, there is always netfilter
[12:04] <fatbrain> Thanks.
[12:04] <Jack_Sparrow> fatbrain: For normal use you dont need to bother
[12:04] <whazilla> it says
[12:04] <fatbrain> yes, thanks, I only have like a ftp server that I and my only friend uses.... hah!
[12:04] <whazilla> could this be a zero-length partition
[12:04] <whazilla> o0
[12:05] <whazilla> after saying superblock read error
[12:05] <whazilla> sethk
[12:05] <OmniD> Hi!!!
[12:05] <Jack_Sparrow> fatbrain: Firestarter or Guarddog are both good IPTable managers
[12:06] <sethk> whazilla, hmm.  do this and put it on the paste site also:    fdisk -l /dev/hda
[12:07] <whazilla> fdisk line just returns to bash
[12:07] <whazilla> without output
[12:07] <sethk> whazilla, it can't.  the command is:    fdisk -l /dev/hda
[12:07] <bluefox83> whazilla, man fsck.ext3
[12:07] <whazilla> ah
[12:08] <sethk> bluefox83, he's not sure of the file system type.  that's why I told him to do fsck, not fsck.ext3
[12:08] <afm\colo> dmesg | grep "[sh] d[a-z] "
[12:08] <fatbrain> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks.
[12:08] <sethk> bluefox83, fsck will automatically determine the file type,
[12:08] <PathagenX> HEY! bluefox83 XD
[12:08] <afm\colo> to see what disks actually are there
[12:08] <whazilla> bluefox83 it returns fsck version and returns to bash
[12:08] <sethk> bluefox83, unless it's utterly borked  :)
[12:08] <Jack_Sparrow> fatbrain: Any time... Just ask
[12:08] <jake1> how can i get more resolutions for my display?
[12:08] <sethk> whazilla, ok, first you said it did nothing (false).  now you say something else.  Just paste the output to the paste site, so we can see what it really does.
[12:08] <bluefox83> sethk, actually if it's not ext3 it will tell him and then exit :p
[12:09] <jake1> it's using the vesa driver
[12:09] <jake1> but my card is a SiS M760GX
[12:09] <PathagenX> whazilla, unmount the disk (if you can) and then fsck -a /dev/hda1
[12:09] <whazilla> sethk i got one extended
[12:09] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: Post your xorg to the pastebin so we can see what video setup you have
[12:09] <sethk> bluefox83, true, but it's still better to do it the other way, because he'll find out what it is, not just what it isn't.
[12:09] <whazilla> one linux and one linux lvm
[12:09] <sethk> whazilla, some reason you can't paste it to the paste site?
[12:09] <jake1> Jack_Sparrow: where is my xorg
[12:09] <jake1> ?
[12:09] <whazilla> yah
[12:10] <whazilla> on diff pc
[12:10] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  (sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup makes a backup)
[12:10] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[12:10] <bamzin> hi there. i'm having some trouble when trying to run any flash movie/animation/youtube video on my firefox. when a page has a flash the browser suddenly closes without noticing.. im using dapper drake, anyone can help me?
[12:10] <fuzzyNeedsHelp> what does the Load "dri" stand for in the xorg.conf
[12:10] <PathagenX> jake1, xorg settings files are in /etc/X11. xorg files are all in /usr/X11**
[12:10] <sethk> whazilla, ok.  if you have lvm running, you will have a hard time trying to use if from the live cd.  why in the world are you using lvm when you have only one disk?
[12:10] <fuzzyNeedsHelp> because its not in the example
[12:10] <lupine_85> fuzzyNeedsHelp: direct rendering interface
[12:11] <WelfareQueen> Any web developers here?
[12:11] <lupine_85> you don't generally need it - you normally use glxi nstead
[12:11] <PathagenX> WelfareQueen, Yo
[12:11] <fuzzyNeedsHelp> could that be cousing my dualscreen not to work?
[12:11] <kditty> i have a folder on my desktop that i have pictures in that i want to delete, but i dont have privlages to do so. how do i cahnge that?
[12:11] <sethk> WelfareQueen, sure.
[12:11] <jake1> actually i gotta go now........ sorry..... i'll figure this out later
[12:11] <jake1> but i'll paste the output to pastebin anyways
[12:11] <jake1> !pastebin
[12:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:12] <Jack_Sparrow> kditty: gksudo nautilus or sudo nautilus --no-desktop/media      Use with care...
[12:12] <lupine_85> fuzzyNeedsHelp: it probably isn'y anything to do with it, but it wouldn't hurt to commend the lines out instead
[12:12] <lupine_85> comment*
[12:12] <lupine_85> erm, s/instead/anyway
[12:12] <zorlac> Is there a way to run custom commands on boot?
[12:12] <WelfareQueen> I was wondering how Digg and other sites have the article names as the URL with no page reference. It would seem you would need a folder for every story but that doesn't sound right. Is ther some kind of lookup they do?
[12:12] <bluefox83> yes
[12:12] <lupine_85> zorlac: /etc/rc2.d
[12:12] <zorlac> thanks
[12:12] <jake1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22955
[12:12] <afm\colo> rather /etc/rc.local @ zorlac
[12:13] <lupine_85> see existing scripts for examples
[12:13] <jake1> Jack_Sparrow there it is
[12:13] <bnovc> I've tried to install ubuntu on a friend's laptop that currently has a copy of windows on it, I assumed the installer would resize the windows partition and use the remaining space (which it says it will) but it says "not enough space to install" or something similar to that
[12:13] <bnovc> WelfareQueen: mod_rewrite in apache
[12:13] <afm\colo> WelfareQueen: possibly rewrite rules
[12:13] <jake1> seemingly the max is 1024x768
[12:13] <lupine_85> when does rc.local get called?
[12:13] <whazilla> so can u pm me a way to mount the lvm in write permission somehow ?
[12:13] <whazilla> ^^
[12:13] <jake1> mine goes slightly higher
[12:13] <bluefox83> what do you want it to do on bootup? make the floopy drive spit fireworks and play stars and stripes?
[12:13] <jake1> but i'm not sure of the max
[12:13] <afm\colo> at the end of the default runlevel, lupine_85
[12:13] <lupine_85> ah, cool
[12:13] <sethk> WelfareQueen, I'm not sure exactly what you mean.  paste one of the URLs.  If it's one line, you can paste it here, more than one line paste on the paste web site
[12:13] <lupine_85> that's handy to know
[12:13] <bnovc> sethk: he means mod_rewrite
[12:14] <WelfareQueen> mod_rewrite! I shall look it up
[12:14] <burk> where in the repos are the urxvt debs?
[12:14] <zorlac> rc.local automaticly runs, i hope, and anything i type is equivilant to typing it into terminal?
[12:14] <erUSUL> !info urxvt
[12:14] <afm\colo> urxvt rules supreme.
[12:14] <ubotu> Package urxvt does not exist in any distro I know
[12:14] <WelfareQueen> sethk - http://www.digg.com/tech_news/A_Reality_Check_for_Vista_A_Day_Late_A_Dollar_Short
[12:14] <afm\colo> zorlac: yes, it's a mere shellscript.
[12:14] <zorlac> do i have to sudo, afa?
[12:14] <WelfareQueen> I assume "A_Reality_Check_for_Vista_A_Day_Late_A_Dollar_Short" is not a folder
[12:15] <MystaMax> anyone using swiftfox on a Intel dualcore?
[12:15] <sethk> WelfareQueen, that's just a file named A_Reality_..._Short.html
[12:15] <whazilla> :$
[12:15] <afm\colo> zorlac: commands run by init are run in the context of root
[12:15] <erUSUL> !info rxvt-unicode
[12:15] <ubotu> rxvt-unicode: RXVT-like terminal emulator with Unicode support. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.0-1 (dapper), package size 994 kB, installed size 2320 kB
[12:15] <zorlac> thanks
[12:15] <burk> thanks erUSUL
[12:15] <RMorris85> what is the best usb 2.0 tv tuner card to use in ubuntu? anybody got any experience with such on a laptop
[12:15] <WelfareQueen> So Digg has hunderds of thousands of files. One for each story?
[12:15] <erUSUL> burk: yw
[12:15] <Fuzz> this is my xorg.conf file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22956
[12:15] <jake1> 1280x800 is the max
[12:15] <jake1> i think
[12:15] <sethk> WelfareQueen, that's the usual way to do it, yes.
[12:15] <Fuzz> im trying to get dualscreen to work again
[12:16] <jake1> something like that
[12:16] <cello_rasp> how do i check which ports i have open?
[12:16] <Fuzz> but its just not working anymore
[12:16] <sethk> WelfareQueen, better than thousands of directories  :)
[12:16] <afm\colo> WelfareQueen: no
[12:16] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: Yes you are running vesa driver, I did find this link that may be of some help..  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57430
[12:16] <whazilla> sethk i will post tomorrow
[12:16] <whazilla> to tired now
[12:16] <afm\colo> it has a RDBS unter its hood
[12:16] <sethk> whazilla, k
[12:16] <kditty> Jack_Sparrow, would you happen to know how i can gain write access to my hard drive? its hooked up and working and i can read it but i just cat write to it because i dont have privlages
[12:16] <lupine_85> sethk: but not as good as a structured directory tree ;)
[12:16] <afm\colo> take a look at Ruby On Rails, it implements a similar concept
[12:16] <sethk> lupine_85, true ... :)
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> kditty: IS it ntfs?
[12:17] <rc55> Hi - I've got four new drives I've added to my ubuntu install. They are formatted, and they have mount points in /mnt, however I cannot write to them unless I am root, how do I change permissions so I can write to them?
[12:17] <jake1> thanx Jack_sparrow
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: Wish I could do more
[12:17] <sethk> cello_rasp, netstat -na | egrep '^tcp'
[12:17] <erUSUL> rc55: in fstab add the option user
[12:17] <agenteo> anybody here installed vim7 on dapper?
[12:18] <jake1> that's ok
[12:18] <jake1> i cnt do more right now anyways
[12:18] <sethk> cello_rasp, to get just listeners:
[12:18] <jake1> thanx anyways
[12:18] <sethk> cello_rasp, netstat -na | egrep '^tcp' | grep LISTEN
[12:18] <Fuzz> this is my xorg.conf file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22956 . Can someone tell me what im doing wrong? I'm trying to get dualmonitor to work.
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> kditty: Do you know the format of the drive you want to write to?  Is it your XP install?
[12:18] <agenteo> I've followed a doc to backport it from edgy but the build screw up..
[12:18] <erUSUL> !info vim
[12:18] <ubotu> vim: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor. In component main, is important. Version 1:6.4-006+2ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 541 kB, installed size 1100 kB
[12:18] <cello_rasp> very neat. must learn how to use pipes. thanks sethk
[12:19] <WelfareQueen> So to sum up: its thousands of files and not mod_rewrite which allows you change the URL on the fly?
[12:19] <erUSUL> agenteo: you have vim 7 in the Seveas repo
[12:19] <erUSUL> !seveas > agenteo
[12:19] <rc55> erUSUL: thanks, I'm rebooting now :)
[12:19] <harleypig> afm\colo: thanks for putting up with my questions ... checkinstall is failing because no version is put in ... if the currently installed version is 0.cvs20050918-5ubuntu1 would I be safe in doing 0.svn20060908-personal1 ?
[12:19] <afm\colo> harleypig: as checkinstall packages lack dependency infos, you should not care too much
[12:19] <kditty> Jack_Sparrow, its its extended 3 no xp on the drive now
[12:20] <dade`> someone who has a macbook with ubuntu here ?
[12:20] <afm\colo> i'd just call it mplayer-svn or whatever
[12:20] <erUSUL> rc55: no need to reboot just remount the disks
[12:20] <bluefox83> Fuzz, you have input device info in your server layout..
[12:20] <Qvazzler> I can't hear my mic in teamspeak, it seems like I have muted everything. I know the mic is working but I know that I have tampered abit with my sound settings. Is there any way to reset my sound configuration?
[12:20] <harleypig> afm\colo: I see, thanks.
[12:20] <Jack_Sparrow> kditty: So it is an EXT3 other than your Ubuntu install correct?
[12:20] <kditty> yes
[12:21] <kditty> Jack_Sparrow, yes
[12:21] <afm\colo> Qvazzler: remocing /etc/asound.state should do it
[12:21] <Fuzz> bluefox83:  what kind of info should there be?
[12:21] <phyburn_> should I do anything special if I am trying to install ubuntu on a SATA drive? Because I keep getting kernel panics
[12:21] <Qvazzler> afm\colo: do I reboot after that?
[12:21] <bluefox83> Fuzz, server output info..not keyboard info..
[12:21] <phyburn_> I am using the 6.06 installer
[12:21] <rc55> erUSUL: It didn't work, can I paste you the fstab lines privately?
[12:21] <rixxon> does dapper include SELinux?
[12:21] <afm\colo> Qvazzler: relogin should suffice
[12:21] <Jack_Sparrow> kditty: gksudo gedit  /etc/fstab   (sudo cp /etc/fstab ~/fstab.backup to make a backup)
[12:21] <harleypig> afm\colo: fyi, it needs a number in the version
[12:22] <bluefox83> Fuzz, you need to sort your info correctly, your keyboard info wont tell it how to handle the screen..so it's pointless to have it there
[12:22] <erUSUL> rc55: use a pastebin and post here the url
[12:22] <afm\colo> harleypig: ah ok
[12:22] <afm\colo> i usually don't use distros using either of those formats ;)
[12:22] <kditty> Jack_Sparrow, the line reads "/dev/hdd1 /media/storage ext3  defaults 0 0" right now
[12:22] <Fuzz> ahh ic
[12:22] <harleypig> afm\colo: thanks again for the    help
[12:22] <Fuzz> it was in the example like that so i just put it in
[12:22] <rc55> erUSUL: http://pastebin.ca/164733
[12:23] <afm\colo> you're welcome
[12:23] <phyburn_> does anyone know if I should do some thing special if I am installing ubuntu on a SATA drive with ver 6.06.1 LTS
[12:23] <lupine_85> phyburn_: just replace all references to hd?? with sd??
[12:23] <rc55> phyburn_: I didn't have to do anything special
[12:23] <lupine_85> that's it
[12:23] <Qvazzler> afm\colo: cant find asound.state
[12:23] <sethk> phyburn_, if you are installing grub on an IDE drive, then no
[12:23] <andres> hi
[12:23] <phyburn_> lupine_85 how do I do that. THe reason I ask is because i keep getting kernel panics
[12:24] <sethk> phyburn_, that's a serious problem.
[12:24] <Fuzz> bluefox83:  so getting rid of that keyboard and mous info should make it work then?
[12:24] <phyburn_> unable to mount root fs on unknown block
[12:24] <sethk> phyburn_, there are some sata chipsets with problems
[12:24] <lupine_85> phyburn_: it wouldn't affect that, at all
[12:24] <lupine_85> dodgy driver, more likely
[12:25] <bluefox83> Fuzz, might..i've never done the ati setup for dual monitor support
[12:25] <lupine_85> try updating to a later kernel and see what happens
[12:25] <Fuzz> well i have, but i had to redo it
[12:25] <Fuzz> and im still not sure about half of what im doing
[12:25] <bluefox83> Fuzz, just sort it out..put the keyboard and mouse info in their respective places...
[12:25] <phyburn_> okay thanks
[12:25] <Fuzz> but i seem to get it to work in the end
[12:25] <lostinc> Is there an easy way to update to gnoe 2.16?
[12:25] <lupine_85> if that fails, your best bet is to report a fault with the Ubuntu kernel team
[12:25] <Qvazzler> how do I reset alsamixer?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> lostinc: nope
[12:25] <lupine_85> lostinc: wait until edgy is stable? :)
[12:26] <liquidten2> lostinc: Absolutely not.
[12:26] <lin_christy> hi my sound just randomly stopped working... i tried to adjust it in every way shape and form as i can but nothing... can someone help?
[12:26] <erUSUL> rc55: my aproach to the problem was wrong, sorry. better make with sudo dirs in the partitions and make them writtable by users (give permision to the group users or your own user)
[12:26] <lupine_85> !gnome in edgy
[12:26] <ubotu> gnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:<IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 44 kB
[12:26] <gnomefreak> lostinc: wait untill edgy is released
[12:26] <Fuzz> it is actually.. its just a referrence
[12:26] <gnomefreak> lupine_85: !gnome edgy
[12:26] <lostinc> is it that much better then 2.14
[12:26] <lupine_85> ah :)
[12:26] <FuzzyLaptop> but ok
[12:26] <lupine_85> !gnome edgy
[12:26] <ubotu> gnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 44 kB
[12:27] <iliketoprogram> can anyone suggest a good page for getting devc++(bloodshed) or another good C++ ide running on ubuntu?
[12:27] <lupine_85> bugs--
[12:27] <FuzzyLaptop> nope that didnt do the trick
[12:27] <rc55> erUSUL: Sorry, I'm not clear what you mean. Are you suggesting I chmod the mount points?
[12:27] <FuzzyLaptop> nope that didnt do the trickgui
[12:27] <FuzzyLaptop> but atleast it didnt crash my GUI
[12:27] <erUSUL> iliketoprogram: kdevelop, anjuta, vdk builder... *emacs*
[12:28] <sethk> iliketoprogram, I use anjuta, which is in the ubuntu repositories
[12:28] <bluefox83> FuzzyLaptop, read your xorg logs, they will point you to the problem, then google for the solutions :)
[12:28] <livingdaylight> using cfdisk how do i assign sdb to partition rather than sda. It comes up with sda but i want to partition sdb
[12:28] <JDahl> iliketoprogram, I dont use it, but I think eclipse has a fairly advanced c++ plugin
[12:29] <iliketoprogram> thanks erUSUL!   also, thank you sethk!   I have kdevelop, i'll bugger with it... and I'll install anjuta and check it out =)     emacs is ok but i really enjoy extensive file system interface, as well as autocomplete and easy linking, etc
[12:29] <Jack_Sparrow> kditty: I want to say 0 2 not 0 0 but I dont have a second ext3 to try
[12:29] <iliketoprogram> JDahl, thanks =)  i just installed eclipse and was like, 'hey, it's for java!' -  I'll check out the plugin
[12:29] <erUSUL> rc55: with the option user you can manually mount the part. and if you do so with your user you will be able to write to it. problemis that the partitions get mounted on boot with root privs. My sugestion is that you create folders on the mounted partitions with sudo and make them wirtable by any user
[12:29] <sethk> iliketoprogram, kdevelop has some good features.  eclipse is also good, but better at java than at c++
[12:30] <nozorro> livingdaylight: 'cfdisk /dev/sdb'
[12:30] <livingdaylight> thx,  nozorro
[12:30] <iliketoprogram> looks like i'll have to dig my heels in and try to get it working.. do i have to recompile it for ununtu, or  is there a synaptics package out there for it?
[12:30] <kditty> Jack_Sparrow, ill try it. once i edit the fstab do i need to reboot?
[12:30] <iliketoprogram> oh, by it i mean: kdevelop
[12:31] <sethk> iliketoprogram, it's in the repositories
[12:31] <zorlac> say i need to run dmraid to allow my raid drives to mound, and i want to mound them through fstab, how do i run the dmraid command before fstab mounts them?
[12:31] <iliketoprogram> sethk: thanks!
[12:31] <bluefox83> zorlac, mount, not mound :P
[12:32] <zorlac> yes yes mount =\
[12:32] <bluefox83> someone's mind is in the gutter ^_^
[12:32] <zorlac> true.
[12:32] <bluefox83> heh
[12:32] <iliketoprogram> uh oh...    Package kdevelop is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:32] <zorlac> but anyways, should i just mount the raid drives through rc.local instead of fstab?
[12:32] <bluefox83> zorlac, no
[12:33] <bluefox83> zonum, did you already create an fstab entry?
[12:33] <zorlac> i'm creating it now
[12:33] <zorlac> not for the raid drives yet, though
[12:33] <iliketoprogram> fstab should do it if you do it right, i think
[12:33] <zorlac> well, i need to run the command "dmraid -ay -f pdc"
[12:33] <zorlac> before it sees the partition.
[12:34] <bluefox83> ooooh
[12:34] <iliketoprogram> is kdevelop not the name for the release for synaptics?
[12:34] <bluefox83> well..then maybe you do O.O
[12:34] <bluefox83> iliketoprogram, no
[12:34] <zorlac> so i might not be able to fstab it =[
[12:34] <sethk> iliketoprogram, I'll check, but it said "is referred to by another package", so it's a package name
[12:34] <bluefox83> iliketoprogram, synaptic not synaptics
[12:35] <iliketoprogram> i forgot an apostrophe =D sorry
[12:35] <StoneNote> I bet you forgot Poland too
[12:36] <sethk> iliketoprogram, I show the package name as  kdevelop3
[12:36] <JDahl> iliketoprogram, apt-file iis a very useful command-line tool for searching the repositories
[12:36] <FuzzyLaptop> wow cool, i made my system>preferences>screen resolution give an error
[12:36] <FuzzyLaptop> XD
[12:37] <iliketoprogram> thank you sethk, and thank you too JDahl..  that is indeed a very useful command line tool, and i wish i'd learned of it sooner!
[12:37] <zorlac> Is it BAD to mount a hd through rc.local?
[12:37] <sethk> JDahl, true, only  kdevelop is not a file in the kdevelop package
[12:37] <FuzzyLaptop> "The X Server does not suppor the XRandR extention. Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available.
[12:37] <iliketoprogram> zorlac, what reason do you have for doing it?
[12:37] <NsOmNiAc> can someone point me to a good site for getting a higher screen resolution in Ubuntu ?
[12:37] <Lysit> how do you fire up the xfce desktop from command line? I know how to stop the gnome desktop
[12:37] <zorlac> ilike, i need to run a dmraid command before linux sees my raid partition.
[12:37] <nozorro> zorlac: it then gets mounted very late in the boot process
[12:38] <agenteo> let's say you have the same package in two different versions. How do you choose the one to install from apt-get? do you need aptude or other tools? thanks
[12:38] <melon|utoh> apologies for being so vague - but i don't know specifics.. i'm getting "hw-random: RNG not detected" when i try to install ubuntu - any common reason for this?
[12:38] <bluefox83> NsOmNiAc, go to System->Preferences->Screen Resolution
[12:38] <idefix> I made a jpg file and opened it locally with firefox, np, then uploaded it to a server and it won't open because it contains errors... what's this? something wrong with the FTP-program?
[12:38] <lupine_85> agenteo: apt-get install <packagename>=<version>
[12:38] <iliketoprogram> zorlac, sorry, I can't help you there =(
[12:39] <lupine_85> melon|utoh: it's a kernel message - it's looking for a hardware random number generator, and not finding one
[12:39] <lupine_85> unsurprising, really. most people don't have one
[12:39] <Lilandra> hi
[12:39] <drezha> hi
[12:39] <NsOmNiAc> bluefox83, yeahh I know about that but my card and monitor support higher than 1024x768
[12:39] <NsOmNiAc> and that's the highest it has in the list
[12:39] <drezha> was wondering if anyone else is suffering what appears to be random blackouts on 6.061?
[12:39] <agenteo> thanks lupine_85
[12:40] <lupine_85> is it stopping you from installing?
[12:40] <bluefox83> NsOmNiAc, i unno..google screen reslotuin ubuntu
[12:40] <sethk> drezha, describe "blackouts".
[12:40] <jirihavelka>  NsOmNiAc: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:40] <bluefox83> *resolution
[12:40] <nozorro> !fixres
[12:40] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:40] <drezha> my screen will go blank, but it sounds like the PC's still on
[12:40] <ubuntu_> hi
[12:40] <Lilandra> lupine_85: i hae a question and HI
[12:40] <melon|utoh> well - i get that one and it's followed directly by "cxacru 11:1.0: cxacru_atm_start: CHIP_ADSL_LINE_START returned -110"
[12:40] <drezha> no key presses or moving mouse will do anything
[12:40] <drick> hello guys...
[12:40] <melon|utoh> i initially thought they were connected.. now i'm not so sure
[12:40] <NsOmNiAc> thanks
[12:40] <sethk> drezha, I have talked to several people having similar problems
[12:41] <ubuntu321> hey
[12:41] <drick> i need assistance with upgrading dapper to edgy...
[12:41] <Flannel> drick: #ubuntu+1
[12:41] <drezha> ah so it's not just me?
[12:41] <sethk> drezha, can you ping the machine from another node on your network?  assuming you have a network, that is.
[12:41] <drick> Flannel: thanks man
[12:41] <lupine_85> drick: visit <insert place of worship here> beforehand
[12:41] <sethk> drezha, no, not just, although it appears to be rare.
[12:41] <drezha> I've not tried that no
[12:41] <sethk> drezha, try it.  that will tell us whether the display died, or the entire machine died.
[12:41] <drick> lupine_85: hahaha, why?
[12:41] <SunRayCafe> does the Dapper Drake server install use PHP 4.3 or 4.4?
[12:41] <drezha> well I've restarted the PC and I'm typing on it ;)
[12:42] <sethk> drezha, also, try the caps lock key.  If it's dead the box is very likely dead also.  try both, the ping, and the caps lock
[12:42] <zorlac> "Couldn't mount device '/dev/mapper/pdc_dicjjjaebg5': Operation not supported
[12:42] <zorlac> Windows did not shut down properly.  Try to mount volume in windows, shut down and try again."
[12:42] <sethk> drezha, you'll have to wait for it to mess up.
[12:42] <zorlac> Sorry for doubble paste =[
[12:42] <lupine_85> 'cos it's not stable yet
[12:42] <drezha> yeah
[12:42] <drezha> I was considering dropping back to 6.06 because I had no trouble with that
[12:42] <paws\> hi
[12:42] <Lilandra> lupine_85: remember me? and my kernel panic? if i use the live cd and the swap is bad or something...won't it use the same swap?
[12:42] <Crippy-Boy> Hi all, I compiled a new kernel (vanilla <IP_ADDRESS>) And any package i try to install now i get unmet dependencies (kernel-image-686, linux-image-2.6.15-26-686). Why?
[12:42] <Flannel> drick: 6.06 is 6.06.1
[12:42] <Flannel> drezha, even
[12:42] <drezha> it's not overheating either.
[12:43] <drick> Flannel: okie...
[12:43] <Flannel> drezha: .1 is just a culmination of a few patches, repackaged into an iso, so you have less to download once you install
[12:43] <drezha> 6.06 ran fine..then I downloaded the 6.061
[12:43] <lupine_85> Lilandra: the live CD won't touch your hard drive at all
[12:43] <drir> has anyone here used "bitchx-gtk"?
[12:43] <drezha> dam..if I knew that I would have wasted a disk :p
[12:43] <Lilandra> lupine_85: but doesn't it recognize the swap partition and use it?
[12:43] <Flannel> drezha: heh, if you were up to date with 6.06, you downgraded going to .1 ;)
[12:43] <Crippy-Boy> drir: No but im using bitchx if its a generic question?
[12:43] <cyphase> wasn't the Official Ubuntu Book going to be available for download?
[12:43] <Lilandra> because i always have to unmount it
[12:43] <sethk> drezha, don't update immediately when something becomes available.  don't update at all unless there is a good reason.
[12:43] <lupine_85> Lilandra: no. hence why it's a live CD
[12:44] <drezha> right
[12:44] <drir> Crippy-Boy, because i installed the package, but i dont know how to load it!
[12:44] <Lilandra> lupine_85: so why do i always need to un mount swap?
[12:44] <SunRayCafe> Question about server: does the Dapper Drake server install use PHP 4.3 or 4.4?
[12:44] <Flannel> drezha: try updating all your packages, see if it fixes itself again
[12:44] <drezha> so potentialliy I'll suffer these random blackouts for a while
[12:44] <sethk> Lilandra, swap partitions are not mounted, so you don't need to umount them
[12:44] <sethk> Lilandra, why do you think you need to umount?
[12:45] <drezha> I must have updated something else at one point because my sound likes to play up when using Skype and other programs
[12:45] <Flannel> SunRayCafe: 4.4, if you want to still use 4
[12:45] <Lilandra> sethk: well, when i try to resize it, it says it's in use but all the other partitions aren't. maybe it's not umount but i have to turn it off
[12:45] <SunRayCafe> Flannel: thanks.
[12:46] <thedash> I am trying to get lm-sensors working, as it seems to fail every time Itry
[12:46] <sethk> Lilandra, you can't resize it while it is in use.  that's perfectly reasonable.
[12:46] <sethk> Lilandra, but resizing it doesn't make any sense in the first place.
[12:46] <Crippy-Boy> drir: type bitchx in terminal and press tab, See what options you get
[12:46] <Lilandra> sethk: but how is it in use if i have a livecd?
[12:46] <sethk> Lilandra, unless you mean you created one that is too small, and you are trying to use something like gparted to modify the size
[12:46] <Lilandra> sethk: i had to resize/move it to resize my /
[12:46] <sethk> Lilandra, it scans your hard drives to find swap partitions
[12:46] <drezha> if it carries on blacking out, I might have to consider using FC5 :S
[12:46] <nozorro> sethk: can't he do swapoff?
[12:47] <sethk> nozorro, yes, of course
[12:47] <Crippy-Boy> Hi all, I compiled a new kernel (vanilla <IP_ADDRESS>) And any package i try to install now i get unmet dependencies (kernel-image-686, linux-image-2.6.15-26-686). Why?
[12:47] <Lilandra> sethk: right so the livecd uses the swap?
[12:47] <NsOmNiAc> does Ubuntu not support NVIDIA ?
[12:47] <drir> Crippy-Boy, pressing tab does nothing
[12:47] <sethk> nozorro, he's complaining because he has to do swapoff
[12:47] <Flannel> NsOmNiAc: it does
[12:47] <Crippy-Boy> drir: press it twice.
[12:47] <sethk> Lilandra, yes
[12:47] <erUSUL> !nvidia > NsOmNiAc
[12:47] <NsOmNiAc> which Xserver driver Flannel ?
[12:47] <drezha> NsOmNiAc - you can download better drivers though
[12:48] <Flannel> NsOmNiAc: see the link ubotu sent you
[12:48] <Lilandra> sethk: but lupine_85 just said it didn't use it because it's live!
[12:48] <erUSUL> NsOmNiAc: althought the correct question would be does Nvidia not support ubuntu
[12:48] <sethk> Lilandra, who are you going to believe, him or your own eyes?
[12:48] <drir> Crippy-Boy, nothing lol
[12:48] <hc2995> ummm when i try to do sudo apt-get i get something saying "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[12:48] <Lilandra> me!
[12:48] <Lilandra> which is why i asked my other question
[12:48] <erUSUL> Crippy-Boy: have you romved the original ubuntu kernel?
[12:48] <idefix> oh it's probably chmod again
[12:48] <lupine_85> sethk: does it?!
[12:49] <lupine_85> that's not very well-behaved of it
[12:49] <Crippy-Boy> erUSUL: yes.
[12:49] <viator> hc2995 so run the command!
[12:49] <sethk> lupine_85, yes, it scans IDE drives.  I don't like it either
[12:49] <hc2995> i did ./'dpkg --configure -a and got "directory dosent exist"
[12:49] <viator> no
[12:49] <viator> no ./
[12:49] <sethk> hc2995, you put a single quote between / and dpkg?
[12:49] <lupine_85> sorry Lilandra, I was wrong
[12:49] <hc2995> no
[12:49] <Crippy-Boy> drir: tried "whereis bitchx-gtk"?
[12:49] <hc2995> sorry i just copy pasted
[12:49] <Lilandra> no problem lupine_85
[12:49] <sethk> hc2995, also, as viator says, it's not in the current directory
[12:49] <bluefusionxl> hello everyone!  I am going to be starting a free shell/hosting service soon.  I was wondering, can people read other people's files?  If so how would I prevent that?  I will have lots of vital passwords in my php scripts and I can't have people having access to that.
[12:50] <bluefusionxl> Give me any other tips you may have also
[12:50] <hc2995> howard@DELL:~$ ./dpkg --configure -a
[12:50] <hc2995> bash: ./dpkg: No such file or directory
[12:50] <hc2995> howard@DELL:~$
[12:50] <sethk> bluefusionxl, in general, no, but doing that would be insane.
[12:50] <bluefusionxl> why is that?
[12:50] <Flannel> bluefusionxl: file permissions
[12:50] <drir> Crippy-Boy, just says "bitchx-gtk:'
[12:50] <hc2995> what directory is it in?
[12:50] <erUSUL> Crippy-Boy: why? it seems that all packages depend on it why not keeping it oraund just in case (i use custom compiled kernels too but have not removed the ubuntu one)
[12:50] <viator> just  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:50] <Flannel> hc2995: no ./  just the dpkg line, dpkg is a command
[12:51] <Lilandra> so lupine_85: if the livecd uses the swap (and something's wrong with the swap partition) mightn't it give same errors?
[12:51] <drezha> looks like I'd updated all the packages this morning
[12:51] <lupine_85> it might do, yes
[12:51] <ramtheus> hello and QUESTION: How do I get dvdShrink to read my dvd drive. No way to use winsetuptk since it's been removed from Universe. any way around it?
[12:51] <lupine_85> best bet is to run swapoff as early aws possible
[12:51] <drezha> and it blacked out about 5 minutes ago
[12:51] <sethk> bluefusionxl, because people hack and potentially get around the o/s security.  ALL passwords on the disk must be encrypted.  Very basic security rule.
[12:51] <Flannel> drezha: have you restarted since the update?
[12:51] <Lilandra> ah! ok lupine_85..thanks :)
[12:51] <sethk> bluefusionxl, principle, not rule.
[12:51] <drezha> yes
[12:51] <rapiscan> Hey all, does anyone have any experience with the xorg.conf or xinerama?  This seems very trivial, but I have extended desktop working, but the monitors are flipped and I can't get them to (right is on left, and vice versa)..  I can't just physically move the monitors, or it will be flipped for OSX.
[12:52] <hc2995> howard@DELL:~$ sudo dpkq --configure -a
[12:52] <hc2995> sudo: dpkq: command not found
[12:52] <hc2995> howard@DELL:~$
[12:52] <Flannel> hc2995: dpkG not Q
[12:52] <drezha> couple of times it crashed during the day
[12:52] <erUSUL> !paste > hc2995
[12:52] <bluefusionxl> seth, how do I tell if they are encrypted?
[12:52] <hc2995> thats a g
[12:52] <sky123> Hi guys...I have openldap authentication working properly. HOWEVER..I dont want to authenticaticate over plain text and need the portion with TLS/SSL working. Does anyone know if there is support for TLS/SSL with the slapd that comes with ubuntu?? Also specific to the support...how do you set it up?? use the snakeoil certs?? or??
[12:52] <hc2995> yes?
[12:52] <sethk> bluefusionxl, if you edit the file, and you can read the password, it's not encrypted.
[12:52] <yohan> which tool do i use when compiling source to make a .deb file nowagain?
[12:52] <drezha> crashed when I tried to change options in tux racer and when loading a UT2k4 level as well
[12:52] <yohan> so i can install with dpkg instead
[12:52] <bluefusionxl> Would that not mess up adduser and other scripts that automatically add users?
[12:53] <rapiscan> Anybody familiar with xinerama?
[12:53] <bluefusionxl> if I encrypted it?
[12:53] <sethk> rapiscan, lot's of people are.  ask a more specific question
[12:53] <Flannel> bluefusionxl: you don't encrypt the file, you use encryption, and the whole system will use that encryption for passwords
[12:53] <rapiscan> (18:51:59) rapiscan: Hey all, does anyone have any experience with the xorg.conf or xinerama?  This seems very trivial, but I have extended desktop working, but the monitors are flipped and I can't get them to (right is on left, and vice versa)..  I can't just physically move the monitors, or it will be flipped for OSX.
[12:53] <sethk> bluefusionxl, no, look in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow.  you'll see only encrypted passwords.
[12:53] <yohan> so i can install with dpkg instead
[12:53] <sethk> Flannel, or store the encrypted password in an ordinary file.
[12:54] <JohnFlux> Hey all!
[12:54] <sethk> rapiscan, look at the "left of" and "right of" options
[12:54] <ulrikft> Hey!
[12:54] <sethk> rapiscan, in the server layout in xorg.conf
[12:54] <ProN00b> anyone got a good solution to play FLV files ?
[12:54] <bluefusionxl> seth, i don't see anything that even looks like a password in that file
[12:54] <isaac_> hey everyone, got a question about a certain screensaver:  I was flipping through the available ones and when I got to the fiberlamp screensaver it just locked up, and my question is why you guys think that might be... I've run this screensaver on other disros okay, and my computer is fairly good
[12:54] <sethk> rapiscan, let's you, as you might expect, set the second screen to be to the left, or to the right, of the first.
[12:54] <ramiroec> just a question: is there a live cd, only to view Divx, DVD, .... ?
[12:54] <JohnFlux> I upgraded to edgy, and now windows machines that connect via my machines (setup for nat )  can't use windows live messenger
[12:54] <bluefusionxl> I dont notice any hash either
[12:54] <sethk> ProN00b, no, sorry, not my area.
[12:54] <drezha> pro noob - mplayer
[12:54] <rapiscan> Yessir, this seemed like the obvious answer, but changing these options does not actually change when I reboot.
[12:54] <yohan> !dpkg
[12:54] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[12:55] <ulrikft> I'm going to do my first fresh ubuntu-install now. it is a few years since i used linux, mostly been using freebsd/osx/windows lately. Any typical things I should keep in mind, or is it farily simple?
[12:55] <erUSUL> ProN00b: i use xine or mplayer even totem can play some of them
[12:55] <hc2995> lol
[12:55] <JohnFlux> anyone heard about upnp?
[12:55] <hc2995> that was a q
[12:55] <JohnFlux> !upnp
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upnp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <erUSUL> JohnFlux: yes
[12:55] <hc2995> i thought i hit g lol
[12:55] <Flannel> rapiscan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[12:55] <sethk> bluefusionxl, you don't see a nonsense string on each line of /etc/shadow?  (or /etc/passwd, if you aren't using shadow)
[12:55] <drezha> ProN00b- Download Mplayer via Synaptic. Works a treat
[12:55] <JohnFlux> erUSUL: do i need to set it up or something for windows msn to work via nat?
[12:55] <Jack_Sparrow> ulrikft: Does the live cd work ok?
[12:55] <Flannel> rapiscan: there's a bit in there about "SErver Layout"  and then some "Right of" stuff, etc
[12:55] <viator> moral of this story dont use windows messenger
[12:55] <nano-lover> Question!: How do I run a .bin file?
[12:55] <JohnFlux> erUSUL: i'm trying to work out why msn isn't working through the ubuntu nat server
[12:55] <viator> heheh
[12:55] <nano-lover> viator: EVER!
[12:56] <rapiscan> Flannel, thanks for the link, but I've already tried changing RightOf to LeftOf, and I've also tried changing the orders of the screens.
[12:56] <Peaceful> Do I need to do something special to get the edubuntu install cd to boot on a PIII server w/SCSI disks?  It just hangs on me.
[12:56] <ulrikft> Jack_Sparrow: dunno yet, I just had an old freebsd-cd lying around, so I installed a basic freebsd, burning the ubuntu-cd now.
[12:56] <erUSUL> JohnFlux: ask in a windows channel but yes upnp can be used to autoconfigure ports for nat if the router support it
[12:56] <ulrikft> Jack_Sparrow: hopefully it will work ok, freebsd did not like my sata at all.. :/
[12:56] <bluefox83> JohnFlux, because microsoft made it?
[12:56] <sethk> nano-lover, unix doesn't use file extensions to mean anything.  however, if it contains a script or a program, use    chmod +x filename.bin
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> ulrikft: See how it runs and how it handles your hardware
[12:56] <sethk> nano-lover, then, do  ./filename.bin
[12:56] <ProN00b> drezha, what are you on ? mplayer can't seek in FLV files
[12:56] <rapiscan> I've also tried changing the monitors that are associated with the screens, and flipping those.
[12:56] <ulrikft> Jack_Sparrow: ok, will do.
[12:56] <sethk> nano-lover, that's with filename.bin in the current directory
[12:56] <nano-lover> sethk: That is why I love you :)
[12:56] <drezha> no program can seek in FLV file
[12:56] <nano-lover> hehe
[12:56] <ulrikft> Jack_Sparrow: have quite ordinary hardware.. dual core 2, sata.. kind of thing.
[12:56] <ProN00b> erUSUL, totem is shit and doesn't work for me
[12:56] <erUSUL> JohnFlux: i do not know how to enable it in ubuntu
[12:57] <bluefusionxl> I see encrypted passwords on my user accounts and root that I created.  But the service accounts don't have anything that looks like it.  For example my gdm is
[12:57] <bluefusionxl> gdm:!:13353:0:99999:7:::
[12:57] <sethk> rapiscan, left of and right of work.  Paste your xorg.conf, with and without the right of (or left of) modifier, and we'll see why it isn't working for you.
[12:57] <ulrikft> will come back to you guys in the time of rest of the burnprocess and one ubuntu install... :P
[12:57] <Jack_Sparrow> ulrikft: What video card?
[12:57] <erUSUL> ProN00b: use shine and also...
[12:57] <ulrikft> Jack_Sparrow: gforce 7600GS
[12:57] <ulrikft> hmm or GT.. *checks
[12:57] <bluefusionxl> is that lower encrption?
[12:57] <erUSUL> !language > ProN00b
[12:57] <ProN00b> erUSUL, what ?
[12:57] <drezha> Pronoob...you might want to convert the FLV files
[12:57] <erUSUL> ProN00b: xine
[12:57] <ulrikft> Jack_Sparrow: 7600GS PCX
[12:57] <Mangix> how do i set the permissions of a folder? i need to put some files into one
[12:57] <Jack_Sparrow> ulrikft: You should be good to go.. Wireless cards are another problem area..
[12:57] <drezha> guide here
[12:57] <drezha> http://my.opera.com/fbsd/blog/show.dml/430067
[12:57] <sethk> bluefox83, no, the ! means that the password is in /etc/shadow, usually
[12:57] <rapiscan> When booting the default monitor is my left (for OSX, for yaboot, for the booting sequence), but as soon as x is launched it seems to make right screen the default screen, regardless of which screen I have set to what and what is "LeftOf" and "RightOf".
[12:57] <ProN00b> drezha, thats a shitty solution
[12:58] <ulrikft> ah, I have an onboard intel card, works nice under Fbsd, so I would imagine that it will do?
[12:58] <lupine_85> well, depending on the wireles card :)
[12:58] <drezha> dont have a go at me. I'm trying to help you here
[12:58] <ProN00b> erUSUL, you think xine will play them and seek in them ?
[12:58] <ACU> how can I run setup.php script for phpmyadmin? if I do I get a permission denied (even as root)
[12:58] <lupine_85> intel... the ipw ones?
[12:58] <rapiscan> Then the other screen is extended, off o my right screen.
[12:58] <ulrikft> thanks by the way Jack_Sparrow :)
[12:58] <rapiscan> Sethk, you want me to just paste it here?
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[12:58] <sethk> bluefox83, sometimes it says x; it's just a placeholder.
[12:58] <Mangix> how do i set the permissions of a folder? i need to put some files into one
[12:58] <drir> bitchx-gtk:
[12:58] <sethk> rapiscan, no, on the paste web site.
[12:58] <bluefusionxl> seth, I am in /etc/shadow
[12:58] <erUSUL> ProN00b: it does for me in the ones i have tried
[12:58] <ulrikft> rapiscan: pastebin
[12:58] <sethk> !paste
[12:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:58] <ProN00b> erUSUL, are you sure you are talking about flv files ? it doesn't work a bit for me
[12:58] <lupine_85> erm, ulrikft: is it an ipw chipset?
[12:58] <apecat> !ati
[12:58] <erUSUL> ProN00b: i have installed w32codecs
[12:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:58] <Flannel> ProN00b: flv are flash files, you should be able to only have flash, and play them
[12:59] <Graig> hello. does anyone know why my SSH connection to my mom's computer would just stop working?  i have no idea why. and i have her ip address right.
[12:59] <bluefusionxl> seth, I believe that my passwords are secure anyhow, do you know any other tips that I should do if I was going to make a public access server?
[12:59] <erUSUL> ProN00b: yes flv the ones you can dl from youtube and other flash sites
[12:59] <lupine_85> Graig: define not working?
[12:59] <sethk> bluefusionxl, I mention passwords because you talked about passwords in php files
[12:59] <drir> anyone at all ever use bitchx-gtk?
[12:59] <Graig> lupine_85: its just not connecting at all.
[12:59] <lupine_85> is sshd still running?
[12:59] <rapiscan> Ok, thanks.   I will paste it in just one moment.  I am going to try LeftOf one last time and reboot so you will see that I have it in this configuration.  Then I will be back and paste the config.
[12:59] <Mangix> how do i set the permissions of a folder? i need to put some files into one
[12:59] <sethk> bluefusionxl, you can make files available to only the owner, or to the owner and group, or to everyone
[12:59] <Graig> lupine_85: i try to connect and it just sits there.
[12:59] <erUSUL> Flannel: flv is a container format much as avi or ogg
[01:00] <sethk> Mangix, same way you set the permissions of a file
[01:00] <ubuntu321> Hey how do you change your userlogin password? Ive changed my root passwrd but can't seem to change the one when you boot up ubuntu and it asks for your username then password, i can't change that one???
[01:00] <sky123> Any familiar with openldap TLS/SSL support for openldap in Ubuntu??
[01:00] <lupine_85> ok, can you telnet to the port?
[01:00] <yohan> which tool do i use when compiling source to make a .deb file nowagain?
[01:00] <sethk> Mangix, us unix snobs say directory, not folder.  :)
[01:00] <erUSUL> Flannel: i do see those files with xine
[01:00] <Mangix> sethk, allright
[01:00] <Graig> lupine_85: with telnet?
[01:00] <ulrikft> sethk: well, my old teacher would smack my head when i said "folder"
[01:00] <meike> Hello. (:
[01:00] <sethk> ubuntu321,  sudo passwd username
[01:00] <lupine_85> erm, yes
[01:00] <nozorro> ubuntu321: System > Administration > Users and Groups
[01:00] <ulrikft> "folder is what you deliver your homework in, it is called a DIRECTORY!"
[01:00] <bluefusionxl> sethk, whats the command to logout?  Im going to logout and try a account i created to see if its available to see my index files
[01:00] <Mangix> sethk, so how do i do it? i'm not sure how to change the permissons of a file either
[01:00] <lupine_85> so telnet <the-ip-address> 22
[01:00] <pfein> umm, any tips on installing on a box without a bios?
[01:00] <ulrikft> "kids these days"
[01:00] <ulrikft> or, something like that.
[01:00] <sethk> bluefusionxl, in a shell?  just exit
[01:00] <nano-lover> pfein: ...
[01:00] <ulrikft> ok, trying to install now.. ;)
[01:00] <ulrikft> laters.
[01:01] <lupine_85> that'll let us distinguish between network and software errors
[01:01] <bluefusionxl> okay, thanks
[01:01] <Graig> lupine_85: does she have to be running a telnet service or something?
[01:01] <drezha> Mangix chmod +x filename+path
[01:01] <pfein> nano-lover: really, it doesn't have a bios
[01:01] <bluefusionxl> oh shoot, it closed my shell...
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> pfein: Please describe your hardware
[01:01] <bluefusionxl> gotta reopen putty
[01:01] <lupine_85> not if you specify the port manually (22)
[01:01] <sethk> bluefusionxl, you can do this:   sudo su username        to become any user
[01:01] <Mangix> drezha, thanks
[01:01] <viator> is it a mac
[01:01] <bluefusionxl> thank you
[01:01] <lupine_85> all we're doing is seeing if you can contact that port
[01:01] <pfein> Jack_Sparrow: It's a toshiba libretto L5 (japanese).
[01:01] <sethk> bluefusionxl, saves a lot of logging in and out.  :)
[01:01] <AMGI> hello
[01:02] <ubuntu321> nozorro: thank u very much
[01:02] <Adam> wee I had a libretto
[01:02] <ProN00b> how can i see the files a package contains ?
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> pfein: My old toshiba had a very odd key combination to get into the setup routine
[01:02] <AMGI> could i ask for some help from a nice user :)?
[01:02] <erUSUL> ProN00b: dpkg -L package
[01:02] <pfein> Jack_Sparrow: it's "legacy-free" - has a menu to pick a boot device & that's it.
[01:02] <Graig> lupine_85:  it says colud not resolve
[01:02] <Mangix> drezha, chmod: changing permissions of `/usr/lib/opera/plugins': Operation not permitted
[01:02] <bluefusionxl> seth, it looks like my dummy account can ready my index files
[01:02] <erUSUL> !ask > AMGI
[01:02] <pfein> Jack_Sparrow: it'll boot from a USB floppy, but not a USB CD.
[01:02] <lupine_85> Graig: there's your problem then.
[01:02] <ProN00b> erUSUL, and for packages not installed ?
[01:03] <sethk> bluefusionxl, ok, then you need to do this:     chmod a-r filename
[01:03] <lupine_85> the domain name you're using isn't valid, or DNS is broken somewhere
[01:03] <bluefusionxl> seth, should I make a group for the public users and is there a way to set access limitations on that group?
[01:03] <Graig> lupine_85: did her internet service provider block me or something?
[01:03] <viator> pfein
[01:03] <sethk> bluefusionxl, or, to do an entire directory:   chmod -R a-r /filename
[01:03] <viator> use pxe
[01:03] <lupine_85> Graig: no
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> pfein: what about a flashstick
[01:03] <lupine_85> it's just in general
[01:03] <sethk> bluefusionxl, after that you'll have to do   chmod u+r filename
[01:03] <pfein> viator: ugh, I was afraid you were gonna say that...
[01:03] <lupine_85> maybe she has a dynamic IP and it's changed?
[01:03] <viator> thats how ya have todo it
[01:03] <sethk> bluefusionxl, better I think to do     chmod g-r filename          and then             chmod o-r filename
[01:03] <pfein> Jack_Sparrow: haven't tried... maybe USB HD, but I doubt it.
[01:03] <Graig> lupine_85: i wonder if her service provider blocked me totally then.
[01:03] <sethk> bluefusionxl, so you don't have to do    chmod u+r filename
[01:04] <AMGI> well i was thinking of installing ubuntu as my second O/S, on the same disc i have windows, so i guess i could make a quick partition with partition magic, but i was wondering if there was any smooth way of doing this dual boot easy ? since i know ubuntu doesnt likew ntfs ? :o
[01:04] <lupine_85> Graig: it's nothing to do with a block
[01:04] <lupine_85> you're just knocking on the wrong door, as it were
[01:04] <sethk> bluefusionxl, a means "all", g means group, u means user (the file owner), o means other
[01:04] <pfein> Jack_Sparrow: would I just expand the ISO to the HD/stick?
[01:04] <Graig> lupine_85:  your saying i have the wrong ip address?
[01:04] <lupine_85> yes
[01:04] <nozorro> AMGI: dual boot works fine if windows is on ehte first disk partition
[01:04] <sethk> bluefusionxl, if you set a file's permissions to:    -rw-------    then only the owner can read and write it
[01:04] <lupine_85> or domain name, since resolution is failing
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !install > pfein
[01:04] <sethk> bluefusionxl, with   -r--------   then only the owner can read it, and nobody can write it.
[01:05] <erUSUL> !dualboot > AMGI
[01:05] <AMGI> nozorro but what about ubuntu not liking ntfs ? :o
[01:05] <lupine_85> presumably it's something like 123-123-123-123.blah.blah.com ?
[01:05] <bluefusionxl> seth, I would like to make a usergroup only able to read their own files.  How would I accomplish that?  I dont want people to see other people's files either
[01:05] <nozorro> AMGI: writing to ntfs is not possible still
[01:05] <lupine_85> AMGI: read-only access for now
[01:05] <Graig> lupine_85:  that shouldn't be right, i had my dad go to the myipaddress site. and it came up with the same ip address that i get from her domain address.
[01:05] <nozorro> AMGI: reading is ok
[01:05] <AMGI> :s
[01:05] <Subhuman> AMGI, it is possible to write with extra software (google "ntfs3g" if your interested)
[01:05] <Flannel> bluefusionxl: you don't need a usergroup, use owner not group
[01:05] <kitche> AMGI: linux support of ntfs is iffy
[01:05] <AMGI> i cant make another file system on one part of the disc, that would mess things up when i want to remove that partition :s
[01:05] <lupine_85> Graig: the problem is the domain name. that's it.
[01:05] <sethk> bluefusionxl, the permissions     -rw-r-----  makes the file read/write for owner, read only for group, and inaccessible for everyone else
[01:05] <ProN00b> erUSUL, it says w32codecs is not avaiable, what repo is it in ? (i think i got everything enabled but backports)
[01:05] <Subhuman> kitche, not with ntfs3g, its pretty sage.
[01:06] <Subhuman> safe*
[01:06] <AMGI> without loosing any of the info from the first partition
[01:06] <nozorro> AMGI: there's a win app out there which reads/writes certain linux partitions
[01:06] <sethk> Subhuman, for file systems, pretty safe means unsafe.
[01:06] <sethk> Subhuman, you can't be a certain amount safe, you are either safe, or not safe.
[01:06] <erUSUL> ProN00b: in seveas'
[01:06] <Subhuman> sethk, well i mean safe full stop then
[01:06] <Graig> lupine_85: but, it wont connect to her ip address either.
[01:06] <kitche> Subhuman: well all of ntfs is unsafe if I remember it can get correputed real easy
[01:06] <erUSUL> !seveas > ProN00b
[01:06] <sethk> Subhuman, ok.
[01:06] <AMGI> nozorro hmm :o
[01:06] <sethk> Subhuman, I haven't tested it myself.
[01:07] <Subhuman> kitche, look up ntfs3g, its pretty well documented and alot of benchmarks etc.
[01:07] <sethk> Subhuman, is the file extension problem fixed?
[01:07] <erUSUL> ProN00b: also you can dl them from mplayer page and do a manual install
[01:07] <ProN00b> erUSUL, can you gimme a list of its contents, because i installed a codecs pack from mplayer, and i think thats the same i just need the location
[01:07] <Subhuman> it replaces ntfsprogs.
[01:07] <viator> ProN00b needs to change his sources.list
[01:07] <ProN00b> erUSUL, gimme the folder they go in
[01:07] <viator> ProN00b should goto the sourceomatic site
[01:07] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[01:07] <bluefusionxl> seth, so could I just chmod the /home directory so only the owner can read it?
[01:07] <Subhuman> sethk, i think so, there are still a few limitations, but nothing major (doesnt handle ntfs file permissions etc)
[01:07] <ProN00b> erUSUL, can you really seek in flv files ?
[01:08] <bluefusionxl> and chmod my other file directories to root?
[01:08] <bluefusionxl> or owner?
[01:08] <kitche> Subhuman: it doesn't do writing though which is what some people want
[01:08] <viator> !sourceomatic
[01:08] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:08] <erUSUL> ProN00b: yes they are the same as the ones in mplayer page /usr/lib/win32
[01:08] <sethk> Subhuman, ok.  the file extension problem is the big one.
[01:08] <Graig> lupine_85: is it possible that the ssh service somehow blocked me?
[01:08] <Flannel> bluefusionxl: you could.  Although, you can just chmod the files themselves
[01:09] <Graig> lupine_85: or does it have an error message?
[01:09] <viator> ProN00b generate a new sources.list
[01:09] <viator> using the site the bot listed
[01:09] <hikenboot> hello all---anyone know what this means? ERROR: SlavePool: No communication with slave. when copying files from one drive to another with konqueror?
[01:09] <ProN00b> erUSUL, and you can seek in flv files ?
[01:09] <ProN00b> are you sure ?
[01:09] <pfein> Jack_Sparrow: eh, a few links I missed on the install page the first time, I'll try a few approaches.  thanks
[01:10] <bluefusionxl> I think I may set my permissions like that then
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:10] <bluefusionxl> Why is it that when I use adduser, it creates a new group for every user
[01:10] <bluefusionxl> couldnt I just put all my people in a usergroup called public?
[01:11] <AMGI> nozorro if i have a 250gb disc with ntfs and windows on it, just one partition, what is the easiest way do you think to make 15gig to ubuntu and that 500mb swap partition to ubuntu without loosing any of the information on my c drive as i have my music and documents etc there
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> AMGI: Partition Magic or Gparted
[01:11] <Crippy-Boy> AMGI: Resize the partition with GParted then make partitions in the free space
[01:11] <rixxon> Ubuntu using SELinux?
[01:11] <nozorro> AMGI: not sure, partitionmagic i guess. i think there's also a part. resizing app on the live cd
[01:12] <erUSUL> ProN00b: i have checked again and you are right i can see them with xine and mplayer but can not seek
[01:12] <AMGI> Gparted is free ?
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[01:12] <isaac_> can anyone tell me a good java development environment to use for ubuntu?  used to use jgrasp but it doesn't seem to like Linux
[01:12] <rapiscan> sethk (and anyone else that might be interested) I don't think that I stated my problem very well.  The issue is that I need to make my "Primary" screen on the left and not on the right.  Switching "LeftOf" and "RightOf" works fine, but the application menu and login are on the right screen.  I need to make the left screen the primary screen.  I have uploaded my xorg.conf to pastebin.
[01:12] <Crippy-Boy> AMGI: Yes.
[01:12] <rixxon> isaac_: eclipse?
[01:12] <hondje> isaac_: Eclipse is popular
[01:12] <nozorro> AMGI: partition manipulation is always somewhat dangerous, make backups ...
[01:12] <isaac_> okay, thanks, I'll try Eclipse
[01:12] <FuzzyLaptop> hmm i put driver "fglrx" in the device section in the xorg.conf file... and its failing on that
[01:12] <AMGI> its kinda hard making 200gig backup without any free space to back it up on :( :( :(
[01:12] <sethk> rapiscan,ok, let me look at it.
[01:12] <Crippy-Boy> AMGI: You can either use the GParted live cd or i believe its on the ubuntu 'Desktop' live cd.
[01:13] <kitche> isaac_: Eclipse might not be what your looking for it's acts different then Jgrasp might have to read a lot of docs
[01:13] <nozorro> AMGI: well burn cd's or dvd's maybe
[01:13] <sethk> rapiscan, give us the URL of the paste
[01:13] <mcphail> bluefusionxl: read "man adduser" and edit /etc/adduser.conf
[01:13] <AMGI> Crippy-Boy i want a prog that i can use from windows to do this, as i dont have the ubuntu live cd, i just dl'ed the install image from their site
[01:13] <Crippy-Boy> isaac_: Netbeans?
[01:13] <rapiscan> oh sorry, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22959
[01:14] <sethk> isaac_, eclipse is excellent for java
[01:14] <FuzzyLaptop> so if fglrx and ati dont work, what can i fill in to make it work then?
[01:14] <AMGI> nozorro thats alot of cds :s
[01:14] <Crippy-Boy> AMGI: You're not going to be able to resize directly in windows as the partition will be mounted
[01:14] <sethk> FuzzyLaptop, file the AGP slot with a different card
[01:14] <Crippy-Boy> AMGI: The GParted live cd is pretty small.
[01:14] <FuzzyLaptop> ?
[01:14] <AMGI> Crippy-Boy thought partition magic could do that, but it cant switch to anything other then ntfs filesystem
[01:14] <Gevaudan82> Hello all...on debian based distros like Ubuntu where would one put a http to https rewrite condition?  in apache2.conf or 000-default?
[01:15] <FuzzyLaptop> are you telling me to just use a different videocard?
[01:15] <FuzzyLaptop> lol
[01:15] <ulrikft> hmm, I'm having a slight problem making a ubuntu-bootable cd with burncd.. or so it seems.
[01:15] <Crippy-Boy> AMGI: I dont *THINK* You'll be able to resize the partition while inside windows.
[01:15] <sureshot> hey all sorry to bother but can someone give me the syntax for me to install a .bin file
[01:15] <brian98> Hi All just got a new 750gb SATA and was wondering should I reinstall,  use ghost, or is there another way? Also when I do is there a way to resize partitions etcc.. Actually scrub that google is my friend there  I'm sure.....
[01:15] <Gevaudan82> sureshot: chmod + x binfile && ./binfile
[01:15] <FuzzyLaptop> lol well "radeon"didnt work
[01:15] <sethk> rapiscan, can you reverse the cables at the video card?
[01:15] <viator> no use the gparted live cd
[01:15] <sureshot> thanks
[01:15] <viator> defrag windows first
[01:16] <viator> then boot to the cd
[01:16] <viator> and resizw
[01:16] <Crippy-Boy> Yup.
[01:16] <AMGI> wish i had another disc to install on :(
[01:16] <Crippy-Boy> AMGI: Which ubuntu cd did you download?
[01:16] <rapiscan> That's the thing, I can't physically change them (although that's a perfectly fine solution).  I'm not the only one that uses this computer, and OSX won't let me change the primary monitor either (I already tried).  I was going to leave ti this way, flip the monitors, and change it in OSX, but no dice.
[01:17] <FuzzyLaptop> how can i see what display driver im using?
[01:17] <Gevaudan82> fuzzy: vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:17] <sethk> AMGI, partition magic shrinks your ntfs partition; why can't you use the recovered space?
[01:17] <AMGI> Crippy-Boy desktop install for amd 64
[01:17] <rapiscan> I know it seems trivial, but I've always worked with desktop on the left, extended desktop on the right, and it seems like it would be very easy to fix this... I have tried every combination I can think of though.
[01:17] <FuzzyLaptop> lol
[01:17] <mckinnoj> guys quick question
[01:17] <Crippy-Boy> AMGI: Then GParted is on there.
[01:17] <mckinnoj> how do i add another user account ?
[01:17] <ulrikft> hmm, I'm doing burncd -v -e -f /dev/acd0 -s 24 -t data /usr/home/ulrikft/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso fixate
[01:17] <sethk> FuzzyLaptop, in the /var/log/X.....     log file.   I forget the name but it's the only one in that directory that starts with capital X
[01:17] <rapiscan> I've tried switching screen numbers in the device section, switching monitors in the screen section, etc.
[01:17] <AMGI> sethk cause Crippy-Boy said i couldnt shrink with partition magic :s
[01:17] <ulrikft> doesen't that seem ok?
[01:18] <Crippy-Boy> AMGI: I said i doubt you could did it while in windows since the partition is already mounted, thats all.
[01:18] <mckinnoj> how do i add another user account ?
[01:18] <Crippy-Boy> adduser?
[01:18] <mckinnoj> can anyone help me out please?
[01:18] <mckinnoj> yes
[01:18] <nozorro> FuzzyLaptop: also in the "Driver" Secton in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:18] <mckinnoj> adduser?
[01:18] <mckinnoj> how?
[01:18] <viator> system>administration>users and groups
[01:18] <Gevaudan82> mckinno: don't repeat...go under System - adminstration -users groups
[01:18] <sethk> rapiscan, I'm still a bit confused.  what does osx do when you exchange the cables?
[01:19] <viator> or from the  cli adduser
[01:19] <rapiscan> Well, OSX thinks the left monitor is the primary monitor (which is the way it should be) So OSX puts the desktop on the left, and extends it to the right.  Switching cables would flip this setup.
[01:19] <FuzzyLaptop> thing is, im working on my xorg.conf and its not working with any drivers i use, and its telling me that the problem is in that line
[01:19] <FuzzyLaptop> but i dont see any problem in it
[01:19] <rapiscan> While moving the monitors in the display options could fix this, then in OSX the right hand monitor would be the primary monitor.
[01:19] <sethk> rapiscan, oh, I see, the problem is that the order of use of the monitor outputs are different.
[01:19] <thedash> lm-sensors is smarter than me
[01:20] <sethk> rapiscan, linux is using one order, and osx the reverse order.
[01:20] <FuzzyLaptop> all i could think of is that my fglrx drivers broke for some reason
[01:20] <AMGI> Crippy-Boy if i resize the partition from the ubuntu install cd, how big a risk do i take of loosing all the info from the disk ?
[01:20] <nozorro> FuzzyLaptop: well you are sure your card is supported?
[01:20] <FuzzyLaptop> it worked before
[01:20] <rapiscan> Right, and I can't seem to get Ubuntu to think that left is the primary monitor.
[01:20] <sethk> rapiscan, hmm, let me think
[01:20] <FuzzyLaptop> its a radeon 9600
[01:20] <FuzzyLaptop> should work fine
[01:20] <Crippy-Boy> AMGI: As with any time you mess with the partition table, Quite high
[01:20] <nozorro> FuzzyLaptop: BusID option helps sometimes
[01:20] <nozorro> FuzzyLaptop: for ati i mean
[01:20] <AMGI> fuck :(
[01:21] <DBO> AMGI, language
[01:21] <AMGI> sorry
[01:21] <rapiscan> That really is the primary monitor, yaboot config outputs data to this monitor when selecting boot options (the left).
[01:21] <AMGI> =/
[01:21] <Kill_X> hi there
[01:21] <sethk> AMGI, I second that.  ALWAYS back up before mucking around with partitions.
[01:21] <rapiscan> But as soon as X launches, login screen is on the right, as if right were primary.
[01:21] <sethk> AMGI, however, everything should be backed up anyway; if it isn't you are asking for trouble.
[01:21] <kaosx> AMGI look into setting up LVM and consider adding a disk or partition that way
[01:21] <Kill_X> I got a serious and vital problem tonight...
[01:21] <sethk> rapiscan, yes, I see.  I'm still considering ...
[01:21] <rapiscan> Serious and vital, that sounds rough.
[01:22] <AMGI> if i wasnt a poor student i would just buy another hdd :s
[01:22] <FuzzyLaptop> hmm it seems to be the busid indeed
[01:22] <FuzzyLaptop> 2 monitors using the same id
[01:22] <FuzzyLaptop> that cant be right
[01:22] <BlackPawn> I've got a problem trying to install Ubuntu, when I boot from the cd and start the installation process, it goes through the long list of checks, the final check says failed, and before I have a chance to read what failed, the screen goes black...??
[01:22] <nozorro> AMGI: scan your disk and you'll see that you can part with some files :-)
[01:23] <Crippy-Boy> AMGI: Im sure you'll be fine, Ive never had a problem, EVER, its just the risk is there and whether you wanna take it or not.
[01:23] <ulrikft> g_vfs_done():acd0[READ(offset=32768, length=2048)] error = 5 <- wtf?
[01:23] <sagarp> the icons in my run-dialog dont match the rest of the icons...how can i change that?
[01:23] <Flannel> BlackPawn: grab the alternate ISO, no liveCD before install
[01:23] <Kill_X> my system (dapper 6.10.1, Kernel 2.6.16-26 I guess) refuses to mount my root-fs on lvm volume group "Ubuntu", LV Ubuntu-root
[01:23] <rapiscan> FuzzyLaptop, I am no expert, but looking at my own config (ATI 9800 pro), I have two monitors on the ame busID, since it's from the same card.
[01:23] <AMGI> nozorro i only have important stuff ^_^
[01:23] <nozorro> AMGI: i second that
[01:23] <brian98> Hi All just got a new 750gb SATA and was wondering should I reinstall,  use ghost, or is there another way? Also when I do is there a way to resize partitions etcc.. Actually scrub that google is my friend there  I'm sure.....
[01:23] <Kill_X> on bootup
[01:23] <sethk> rapiscan, right, it is only one device on the pci bus, otherwise it would be trivial
[01:23] <FuzzyLaptop> ahh
[01:23] <nozorro> AMGI: Crippy-Boy's opinion i mean
[01:23] <AMGI> hm well installing partition magic now :s
[01:24] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me how to format my hardrive?
[01:24] <FuzzyLaptop> ill see what it does now, who knows
[01:24] <livingdaylight> cfdisk doesn't do that
[01:24] <livingdaylight> i'm in live cd
[01:24] <livingdaylight> i need to format sdb
[01:24] <kaosx> umm
[01:24] <mcphail> livingdaylight: cfdisk is for making partitions
[01:24] <kaosx> mke2fs?
[01:24] <Kill_X> it goes through kernel startup very well, but after execution of /scripts/premount (pre-init) it throws an exception saying the device /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root does not exist
[01:24] <livingdaylight> mcphail: thtas right, so how do i format
[01:24] <pharcvde> who do i contact for edgy requests?
[01:25] <dibblego> !themes > dibblego
[01:25] <mcphail> livingdaylight: use one of the mkfs commands
[01:25] <nozorro> livingdaylight: which kind fo file system?
[01:25] <varsendaggr> hey where are the plugins for inkscape?
[01:25] <kitche> livingdaylight: cfdisk is just a paritioner
[01:25] <kaosx> mke2fs does most of the popular ones
[01:25] <mcphail> livingdaylight: i would recommend mke2fs -j
[01:25] <livingdaylight> nozorro: it doesn't matter for now. I just need to be able to get back into sda which i can't access, so i need to just format sdb
[01:26] <sethk> rapiscan, are you up for a source code patch?   building xorg is a real bitch, though.
[01:26] <Kill_X> lvm modules have been successfully loaded, though, and both my LVs (swap partition, root partition) have been recognized
[01:26] <rapiscan> Hmm, did you find a solution?
[01:26] <Kill_X> anyone got some hint? :S
[01:26] <livingdaylight> basically, i just need to wipe the system that is on my sdb so i can access again sda
[01:26] <sethk> rapiscan, if you are willing to change source code and rebuild the X server, it isn't terribly difficult.
[01:26] <JDStone> I'm getting a message that says I need to configure LIRC when I start it
[01:27] <JDStone> can someone please help me?
[01:27] <rapiscan> I don't think I can do it tonight, but sure I'm game.  My experience is limited, but I'm trying to learn as fast as I can here...
[01:27] <nozorro> livingdaylight: partitioning shluld be enough to wipe it
[01:27] <viator> livingdaylight try dban
[01:27] <viator> then
[01:27] <nozorro> *should
[01:27] <viator> heh
[01:27] <Crippy-Boy> dban rules :D
[01:27] <rapiscan> sethk (I only have a little time left tonight, I have other work to do, that's why I say I can't do it tonight)
[01:28] <livingdaylight> nozorro: no it itsn't because when i reboot, the other os still boots up
[01:28] <sethk> rapiscan, ok, we'll talk another time then.
[01:28] <livingdaylight> viator: dban? how?
[01:28] <Crippy-Boy> livingdaylight: download the boot disk http://dban.sf.net (i think)
[01:28] <viator> dban is a live cd for widing drives partions
[01:28] <rapiscan> sethk, oh you were going to have to walk me through it? I take it that means there's not documentation online. Is there anyway you can give me a general idea and I will read up on how to do it?
[01:28] <viator> wiping
[01:29] <kitche> nozorro: cfdisk just does partition no formating
[01:29] <CurtisB> I've got a package management prob...  whenever I get updates, the update mgr says, "cannot install all available updates, Some updates require the removal of further software" (etc.) then says it can't update totem, and I need to do a dist-upgrade.  Well, it says this even after a dist-upgrade, and if I try to remove totem it inists that it also needs to remove gnome-desktop-environment, which seems like a bad id
[01:29] <CurtisB> ea :)
[01:29] <livingdaylight> Crippy-Boy: sorry, there has to be a quicker way
[01:29] <kaosx> mke2fs -j /dev/sdb
[01:29] <nozorro> kitche: yes :-)
[01:29] <mcphail> kaosx: that won't work
[01:29] <sethk> rapiscan, the source code _is_ the documentation.  You can reverse the order of the device scan.
[01:29] <kaosx> wouldnt that work?
[01:30] <mcphail> kaosx: /dev/sdb is not a partition
[01:30] <kaosx> ah
[01:30] <Kill_X> well... anybody?
[01:30] <Crippy-Boy> sethk: Source code is documentation? I thought that was just an excuse for lazy dev's that don't wanna write docs ;-)
[01:30] <sethk> kaosx, you can create a file system on the entire device.
[01:30] <sethk> kaosx, it isn't the usual way to do it, but you can
[01:30] <kaosx> ahh
[01:31] <kaosx> still learnig
[01:31] <sethk> kaosx, and the mkfs should work.
[01:31] <Hummari> Can some1 here please help me set up ubuntu 6.06, i always get the same error message "Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface)......." if there is some1 here that can help me, please message me
[01:31] <dibblego> Crippy-Boy, source code is a less ambiguous language than English and so the formality makes it more concise documentation
[01:31] <reitzell> anybody know a good ap to keep your passwords in?
[01:31] <kaosx> so whats the proper way?
[01:31] <dibblego> reitzell, mypasswordsafe
[01:31] <rapiscan> sethk:  I see, I take it this is all in C? It shouldn't be a problem then.  I'll investigate when I have some free time, and will definitely be back if I have any questions.
[01:31] <reitzell> thanks
[01:31] <sethk> kaosx, the usual way is to use fdisk to create a partition table, and then use mkfs on the partition.   however...
[01:31] <mcphail> sethk: i don't think that mkfs will work
[01:31] <Crippy-Boy> dibblego: Im sure glad i never wanted linux docs then ;-)
[01:31] <sethk> kaosx, what you did is not wrong and should have worked.
[01:31] <sethk> mcphail, it will.  I've used it that way.
[01:32] <sethk> rapiscan, k
[01:32] <mcphail> sethk: for ext3? I know you can do it for reiser
[01:32] <kitche> sethk: well mke2fs needs the filesystem for example mke2fs.ext3
[01:32] <kaosx> i figured that you wouldnt mke2fs on the mount point
[01:32] <kaosx> so i figured the device..
[01:32] <Hummari> Can some1 here please help me set up ubuntu 6.06, i always get the same error message "Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface)......." if there is some1 here that can help me, please message me
[01:32] <kaosx> but i see what youre saying
[01:32] <sethk> mcphail, yes, I've done it with ext3.
[01:33] <kaosx> thats sort of how i did it in gentoo i think
[01:33] <Hummari> would be nice to get some help
[01:33] <sethk> kaosx, if that failed (what you did), it will also fail on the partition
[01:33] <AMGI> restarting pc after my resize now, hope it works
[01:33] <kitche> Hummari: I get the same thing it seems that the xorg.conf is set up wrong
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> I know this problem is about 15 minutes old.. But I dropped out to windows and I did shrink a 400 gig NTFS partition to 350 gig using Partition Magic 8 and verified the drive, so it does work for the person that needed the info
[01:33] <sethk> kaosx, what happens when you use that command?  the mkfs to /dev/hdb  (or sdb, or whatever it was)
[01:34] <kaosx> dont know, i was pulling it off the top of my head for that other guy
[01:34] <zoidberg> hey guys i'm having a porblem
[01:34] <kaosx> something i thought i remembered when i set up gentoo
[01:34] <Kill_X> so nobody has got some hints for not-anymore-mounting LVM Volumes? :(
[01:34] <kaosx> im gonna try arch or debian next on my test box
[01:35] <nozorro> kaosx: the other guy was livingdaylight i think, but his problem was a boot manager problem i thought
[01:35] <sethk> kaosx, ok.  it isn't wrong, it's just not the typical way it is done.
[01:35] <zoidberg> i'm trying to ssh into another machine....both on the same internet conneciton on a college campus....and i get an error says "port 22 connection refused"...any help?
[01:35] <Kill_X> especially root-filesystems?
[01:35] <CurtisB> I've got a package management prob...  whenever I get updates, the update mgr says, "cannot install all available updates, Some updates require the removal of further software" (etc.) then says it can't update totem, and I need to do a dist-upgrade.  Well, it says this even after a dist-upgrade, and if I try to remove totem it inists that it also needs to remove gnome-desktop-environment, which seems, well, bad...
[01:35] <CurtisB> ..... Is there a way to force removal of totem package without letting the package manager (I've been using apt-get) insist that it also needs to remove gnome-desktop-environment?  (or is the g-d-e- package an orphan?!?)
[01:35] <Hummari> there must be some1 here that can help me here
[01:35] <zoidberg> i'm trying to ssh into another machine....both on the same internet conneciton on a college campus....and i get an error says "port 22 connection refused"...any help?
[01:35] <hikenboot> question is there any way to do a comprehensive system test in linux ...I know on the windows side there is several boot cd's and software that "Comprehensively test" a system???
[01:35] <zoidberg> sorry it got chopped off before
[01:35] <zoidberg> dobt mean to spam
[01:35] <kitche> zoidberg: don't repeat but port 22 is blocked
[01:35] <Crippy-Boy> zoidberg: They probably blocked port 22 or ssh isn't running or not running on port 22
[01:36] <zoidberg> kitche: is there anyway i can unblock it....or perhaps change the port on both computers?
[01:36] <kaosx> curtis: you can sudo apt-get remove totem i think
[01:36] <hikenboot> I think something on my system is failing but not sure wether its the processor memory or hard drives
[01:36] <Crippy-Boy> zoidberg: Change the port to 443, Should work.
[01:36] <kitche> zoidberg: you can reconfigure ssh
[01:36] <sethk> zoidberg, possibly the machine you are attempting to connect to isn't running the ssh server
[01:36] <zoidberg> no it is
[01:36] <CurtisB> kaosx - when I try that it wants to remove gnome-desktop-environment as well!
[01:36] <sethk> zoidberg, it isn't installed by default.
[01:36] <zoidberg> both have dapper
[01:36] <sethk> zoidberg, you added it after the install?
[01:36] <kaosx> weird
[01:36] <zoidberg> are u sure sethk?
[01:36] <Hummari> Can some1 here please help me set up ubuntu 6.06, i always get the same error message "Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface)......." if there is some1 here that can help me, please message me
[01:36] <sethk> zoidberg, the client is installed by default, but not the server.
[01:37] <Crippy-Boy> zoidberg: you have to install the package openssh-server
[01:37] <sethk> zoidberg, yes
[01:37] <yohan> heya i just installed urxvt but the urxvt -bl doesnt work...any ideas?
[01:37] <zoidberg> does that server need to be installed on both computers
[01:37] <kitche> sethk: you don't even know what the otehr computer is running
[01:37] <yohan> -bl means borderless
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Hummari: Are you running the live cd trying toinstall?
[01:37] <sethk> zoidberg, no, only on the server.
[01:37] <sethk> zoidberg, unless of course you want to be able to connect both ways.
[01:37] <kitche> zoidberg: what's the other computer running ubuntu or another distro?
[01:37] <zoidberg> the other computer is a friends computer that i got him to put dapper on
[01:37] <zoidberg> i have dapper
[01:38] <zoidberg> we want to be able to share files
[01:38] <sethk> kitche, ubuntu on both ends
[01:38] <zoidberg> i've created an account on his computer
[01:38] <jbaby> I broke my Windows :(
[01:38] <zoidberg> so what should i do now?
[01:38] <nozorro> jbaby: good for you :-)
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> jbaby: How
[01:38] <Zorlac> My ubuntu keeps locking up =[
[01:38] <Crippy-Boy> zoidberg: sudo apt-get install openssh-server on whatever your trying to connect to.
[01:38] <zoidberg> install server on both computers?
[01:38] <sethk> zoidberg, install the ssh server, then connect.  most likely it will work.  the port _may_ be blocked, but you'll never know until you check.
[01:38] <zoidberg> sethk: how can i check
[01:38] <sethk> zoidberg, if you want to connect both ways, that is, he can connect to you, and you can connect to him, then yes, both machines.
[01:39] <zoidberg> sethk: should i install the server on both
[01:39] <dibblego> telnet host 22
[01:39] <sethk> zoidberg, on the server:  netstat -na | grep 22
[01:39] <dibblego> zoidberg, install the server on the server - the machine to connect to
[01:39] <sethk> zoidberg, I answered that four times.
[01:39] <jbaby> I installed Kubuntu and it erased everything including the OS restore hidden section that ships with Dell
[01:39] <zoidberg> okay guys
[01:39] <zoidberg> give me aminute
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> jbaby: Did you tell it to use the entire drive?
[01:39] <dibblego> jbaby, you are given the option - I erased that on my Dell fwiw
[01:39] <cheekie> What is the best way to deploy an installation from one machine to many in a computer lab?
[01:39] <bluefusionxl> Now let me clear things up.  If I give the Owner access to the files, that means the person who the account is running the file, correct?  Group would mean people in that group and public would be just anyone on the server?
[01:39] <Zorlac> Anyone know why ubuntu would freeze?
[01:40] <dibblego> Zorlac, it is not close enough to the equator?
[01:40] <bluefusionxl> probably a memory problem zor, run ubuntu in memtest mode
[01:40] <Zorlac> dibblego, damn, i guess i should move =[
[01:40] <jbaby> Yes, but I didnt know it would erase that hidden part
[01:40] <Zorlac> bluefusionxl, okay
[01:40] <kitche> bluefusionxl: it depends who the file owns to
[01:40] <dibblego> jbaby, it's not "hidden" - it's just a different partition
[01:40] <CurtisB> If I do 'apt-get remove totem' it also wants to remove gnome-desktop-environment... is there aq way to force the removal of only the totem package?
[01:40] <sethk> Zorlac, there is a problem.  several people tonight have been experiencing that after upgrading.
[01:40] <jbaby> I originally tried to install it on the same partition with windows but then windows wouldnt reboot
[01:40] <Zorlac> sethk, its just regular 6.06 though
[01:41] <bluefusionxl> Is there a new version of ubuntu out?
[01:41] <dibblego> jbaby, it can't go on the same partition as windows - it would have removed windows at that point
[01:41] <sethk> jbaby, if you used the entire disk, then the other stuff is gone.
[01:41] <bluefusionxl> kitchie,  what do you mean?
[01:41] <sethk> Zorlac, did you install updates?
[01:41] <ubuntu_newbie> i have a problem that i doubt anyone has had yet
[01:41] <Zorlac> sethk, i think so
[01:41] <Arigato> is it just my computer or does simultaneous sound not work on ubuntu?
[01:41] <sethk> Zorlac, several people here this evening have reported similar things after updating.  not an upgrade, just taking changes.
[01:42] <varsendaggr> Arigato, that is a good question
[01:42] <sethk> Arigato, it works, but the sound server must be correctly configured.
[01:42] <Zorlac> ahh, i guess i'll just wait
[01:42] <jbaby> Right, once I found I messed up windows, I went and installed kubuntu again but this time said use the whole hard drive but then it also erased the dell restore
[01:42] <liquidangle> shoot
[01:42] <liquidangle> lost the job today :(
[01:42] <CurtisB> Arigato - ESD enlightenment sound daemon should let you have multiple prog's access sound at once
[01:42] <ubuntu_newbie> can i get some help?
[01:42] <dibblego> jbaby, because the Dell restore is kept on the hard drive
[01:42] <sethk> Arigato, the sound server owns the sound device, and applications talk to the sound server, and that allows multiple sound apps.
[01:42] <phin> hi, i just upgraded to edgy from dapper and when i try to startx i keep getting a version mismatch error for my i810 driver, any suggestions?
[01:42] <nozorro> !ask
[01:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:42] <jbaby> I know that now LOL
[01:42] <CurtisB> ubuntu_newbie - whats the prob?
[01:42] <sethk> Arigato, if the sound server is not running, then once an app grabs the sound device, no other app can get it.
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> jbaby: The drivers are available, your XP code is still good if you borrow a CD.. YOu just dont have the extras that were included with your original system.... Office and a few toys
[01:43] <liquidangle> anyone in southern cali who's company is hiring ? :)
[01:43] <chamo> hello
[01:43] <kitche> phin: yeah I got that error also it has to deal with mesalib
[01:43] <ulrikft> http://en.pastebin.ca/164776 <- can someone tell me wtf that is?
[01:43] <phin> kitche: any suggestions?
[01:43] <sethk> jbaby, if you told it to use the entire drive, why are you surprised that it used the entire drive?  What am I missing?
[01:43] <nashife> liquidangle google is always hiring. :) is that southern cali enough for you?
[01:43] <sethk> ulrikft, it's a URL
[01:43] <Kill_X> Anyone here with knowledge of LVM and mounting problems using LVM for a root filesystem?
[01:43] <kitche> phin: what verison of mesalib does edgy use do you know I had to use mesalib 6.5
[01:43] <ulrikft> sethk: ho ho ho ho
[01:43] <Groggzor> hi all, i need to talk to some1 here that know alot about Ubuntu, i am having a trouble installing ubuntu
[01:43] <ulrikft> sethk: you are TEH funney
[01:43] <liquidangle> nashife: their in central cali
[01:43] <jbaby> I thought Dell would have protected the OS more than that (for idiots like me)
[01:44] <Groggzor> getting the same error message
[01:44] <phin> kitche: how do i check?
[01:44] <chamo> ulrikft: no idea..
[01:44] <sethk> ulrikft, it's part of a hex dump.  where did you get it?
[01:44] <liquidangle> nashife: i'm closer to L.A
[01:44] <ulrikft> sethk: trying to burn the ubuntu cd
[01:44] <sethk> ulrikft, in a log file?
[01:44] <ulrikft> sethk: in freebsd
[01:44] <ulrikft> sethk: with burncd
[01:44] <nashife> liquidangle well, i'm in oregon, so it's all "southern cali" for me. :)
[01:44] <nozorro> jbaby they can't (i hope)
[01:44] <chamo> ulrikft: have you check'd their website or googled it ?
[01:44] <dibblego> jbaby, nothing to do with the OS - if they did, it would annoy people like me who want the disk that they paid for
[01:44] <pharcvde> is vim 7.0 in edgy?
[01:44] <sethk> ulrikft, that's an ioctl error, which doesn't help you much.
[01:44] <liquidangle> nashife: hahaha, where do you work my friend ?
[01:44] <ulrikft> hmm, ok.
[01:44] <eviltux> hi all
[01:45] <liquidangle> nashife: I'd like to move to the northwest
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> jbaby: What model of Dell laptop?
[01:45] <nozorro> jbaby: sorry for you :-(
[01:45] <sethk> ulrikft, either a bug in the program or a problem in the burner firmware
[01:45] <liquidangle> I hate it here
[01:45] <ulrikft> i think I'll just go kill myself now, and try to find a friend with a cdburner tomorrow:P
[01:45] <jazzrocker> is the MBR only on the master HD?
[01:45] <jbaby> deimension 3000
[01:45] <jazzrocker> or does each HD (even slaves) have an MBR?
[01:45] <nashife> liquidangle well, if you've got sys admin experience, the company I'm working for is prolly hiring again soon.
[01:45] <mcphail> jazzrocker: they all have a MBR
[01:46] <nashife> liquidangle and if you wanted to move up here. :)
[01:46] <sethk> liquidangle, cali is one large parking lot.  I don't like the northwest, though, I like more civilized places.
[01:46] <jazzrocker> mcphail, which MBR actually get's booted from then? only the master drive?
[01:46] <ubuntu_newbie> has anyone gotten linux to print on a windows server?
[01:46] <liquidangle> nashife: ummm, do they re-locate ?
[01:46] <mcphail> jazzrocker: whatever one you set the BIOS to boot from
[01:46] <nozorro> liquidangle: Germany where i am is further northwest still :-)
[01:46] <jbaby> I have tried DLing windows from torrent and they none of them work so guess I am a kubuntu user LOL
[01:46] <sethk> jazzrocker, the BIOS reads the mbr from the primary master, yes
[01:46] <liquidangle> nashife: I ran my own entertainment company for a few years, I did pretty much everything :)
[01:46] <nashife> liquidangle it's possible.  we almost hired someone from Utah, but he turned down the offer.
[01:46] <jazzrocker> mcphail, most bioses i've seen don't have such an option
[01:46] <djohnny79> Hi @ll
[01:46] <bluefusionxl> what command removes users?
[01:47] <FuzzyLaptop> pffff its still not working right
[01:47] <djohnny79> anybody can help me with my monitor?
[01:47] <nozorro> bluefusionxl: deluser
[01:47] <bluefusionxl> thank you.
[01:47] <mcphail> jazzrocker: i have never seen a bios which doesn't ;)
[01:47] <liquidangle> nashife: how much sys admin experience ? i've got an A.S from I.T.T in networking, havent worked in a corp setting yet though :(
[01:47] <Groggzor> any here know about his error Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface). ... "
[01:47] <nozorro> bluefusionxl: or use the graphical tool
[01:47] <jazzrocker> mcphail, i've never seen a bios that says "boot from master/boot from slave"
[01:47] <djohnny79> where can i set my res higher than 1024 * 768: Hardware: NVidia Geforce 2 MX/440
[01:47] <jazzrocker> mcphail, ever
[01:47] <Groggzor> please some1 help me
[01:48] <maple1> jbaby, you can ask dell to ship you your XP disc
[01:48] <jbaby> What I cant understand about Kubuntu though is how did it know how to connect to the internet without me installing anything
[01:48] <AbortD> dj system > preferences > screen resolution?
[01:48] <jbaby> I use an external DSL modem
[01:48] <[DMC] > what is the correct place to turn off a service like cups and keep it off?
[01:48] <jazzrocker> jbaby, what's not to understand. and why would Kubuntu confuse you more than Ubuntu (which will do the same thing)
[01:48] <FuzzyLaptop> OMG
[01:48] <FuzzyLaptop> ITS WORKING
[01:48] <bluefusionxl> is there a way to chmod all files and directories in a root directory?
[01:48] <AbortD> djohnny79:  system > preferences > screen resolution?
[01:48] <djohnny79> dont get it higher than 1024*768, thats just the prob @abortD
[01:48] <phin> kitche: i have 6.5.1 installed
[01:48] <mcphail> bluefusionxl: chmod -R
[01:49] <zoidberg> sethk: okay so i installed the server on my computer but not on the other...can i still access the other computer for now
[01:49] <jbaby> Well, with windows, I had to install the bellsouth cd
[01:49] <pharcvde> bluefusionxl: do chmod -R XXX dir
[01:49] <FuzzyLaptop> only now i think im still using the ati drivers instead of fglrx
[01:49] <Crippy-Boy> zoidberg: no
[01:49] <djohnny79> MooooooooH
[01:49] <AbortD> geforce 2?
[01:49] <jazzrocker> jbaby, no. you didn't have to install the bellsouth cd. <- they told you you had to
[01:49] <djohnny79> Yes...
[01:49] <zoidberg> but i have an account on the other computer
[01:49] <jbaby> So does that mean that windows is on my machine somewhere?
[01:49] <AbortD> will it just not allow you or when you do it screen goes blank?
[01:49] <Crippy-Boy> zoidberg: You need the ssh server running on the computer you want to connect to!
[01:49] <jazzrocker> djohnny79, that's an xorg setting
[01:49] <djohnny79> 2nd PC ;-) Should become a server but as my WIN PC fucked up on a virus i just wanted to try learning Linux ;)
[01:50] <DJGummikuh> language
[01:50] <pharcvde> forums are getting whored
[01:50] <OldTyme> question on install. when it goes to install it says "uncorrectable error on fat16 ide a partition 1" then it stops: im installing on ide #2 partition 2
[01:50] <kingdong> Let's keep it clean gentlemen!
[01:50] <sethk> zoidberg, you can only log into the machine that is running the server that you just installed.
[01:50] <kaot> !restricted
[01:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:50] <zoidberg> damn....well i cant install the server on that machine right now
[01:50] <bluefusionxl> so if I wanted to chmod all files in /home with a sudo chmod -R 700 /home
[01:50] <Crippy-Boy> zoidberg: The server runs on the machine you want to connect to, And you connect with the client.
[01:50] <ubuntu_newbie> has anyone ever been able to print to a windows server printer
[01:50] <jazzrocker> djohnny79, System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[01:50] <bluefusionxl> then itll m,ake all files in there 700?
[01:50] <sethk> jbaby, no, if you said "use entire disk", there are superblocks written in various places, and windows is gone.
[01:50] <djohnny79> jazzrocker :Where can i change this? Just loaded the drivers and changed as the prog told me, but nothing REALLY changed...
[01:51] <zoidberg> but it did say before when i was just trying to ssh that port 22 was restricted or something
[01:51] <zoidberg> can i unrestrict that on my machine and his....i mean change the port or something
[01:51] <Crippy-Boy> zoidberg: because it was trying to connect to something that wasnt there
[01:51] <livingdaylight> what is the command for making ext3?
[01:51] <ubuntu_newbie> jesus...this doesnt make any sense
[01:51] <jbaby> Ok, then how did kubuntu know I had a dsl modem without me installing the software?
[01:51] <sethk> zoidberg, I don't believe it's a port issue.  you can change it, but it won't help this problem.
[01:51] <jazzrocker> djohnny79, loaded what drivers. changed what as what program told you what. if nothing "really" changed, what did change
[01:51] <djohnny79> ok.. giot the nvidia logo on startup, but dont get res higher...
[01:51] <kingdong> mke2fs
[01:51] <zoidberg> okay
[01:51] <livingdaylight> making ext3 for sdb1
[01:51] <zoidberg> thanks a lot guys
[01:51] <nozorro> djohnny79: read here:
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu_newbie:   Did you use this page to get that going  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter
[01:52] <zoidberg> i really appreciate all the help
[01:52] <jazzrocker> djohnny79, installing the nvidia drivers doesn't change your resolution for you
[01:52] <nozorro> !fixres
[01:52] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:52] <djohnny79> sorry im n00b ...
[01:52] <sethk> zoidberg, if I understand correctly, you are still trying to connect _to_ a machine where the ssh server isn't running.
[01:52] <zoidberg> i'll just get my friend to install the server later
[01:52] <livingdaylight> kingdong: mke2fs /dev/sdb1   ??
[01:52] <jazzrocker> djohnny79, don't be sorry, just modify your behavior
[01:52] <sethk> zoidberg, good idea.  :)
[01:52] <zoidberg> no sethk its cool...the guys is just not at hi computer right now... i understand thanx a lot
[01:52] <Groggzor> I need some help installing upuntu, getting the same fucking error message all the time, i really need to get ubuntu up so i can do my homework
[01:52] <djohnny79> :-)
[01:52] <nozorro> !fixres > djohnny79
[01:52] <ubuntu_newbie> the problem is that its not a xp machine
[01:52] <DBO> !language > Groggzor
[01:52] <ubuntu_newbie> its a windows serber 2003 :(
[01:52] <zoidberg> okay guys one more thing
[01:52] <ubuntu_newbie> server*
[01:53] <kingdong> livingdaylight, add a -j if you want ext3
[01:53] <ompaul> !language
[01:53] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:53] <DJGummikuh> jazzrocker: don't be too hard on him he barely understands anything on linux yet
[01:53] <livingdaylight> kingdong: add that where? could you show me?
[01:53] <zoidberg> so the only reason i have XP right now still on this machine is because of my Tv-Tuner card...its an ATI TV_Wonder Pro or something
[01:53] <sethk> Groggzor, ask a question
[01:53] <chamo> hehe
[01:53] <jazzrocker> DJGummikuh, who barely what when why?
[01:53] <zoidberg> can i get that to work in UBUNTU?
[01:53] <nick_> !kill
[01:53] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:53] <jazzrocker> DJGummikuh, i haven't been "hard" on anyone
[01:53] <kingdong> livingdaylight, just to make sure you are ready to lose all the existing data on this partition correct?
[01:53] <DJGummikuh> jazzrocker: djohnny79 :)
[01:53] <bluefusionxl> sudo chmod -R 700 /home
[01:53] <jazzrocker> DJGummikuh, go read smart-questions.
[01:54] <sethk> zoidberg, I'm not sure whether that particular card is supported.  look at the video4linux web site.
[01:54] <bluefusionxl> hey guys...  I typed "sudo chmod -R 700 /home
[01:54] <bluefusionxl> oops
[01:54] <livingdaylight> kingdong: yes
[01:54] <djohnny79> mom just readin the help...
[01:54] <bluefusionxl> hey guys...  I typed "sudo chmod -R 700 /home" and my ftp wont let me on
[01:54] <bluefusionxl> anymore
[01:54] <DJGummikuh> I kinda knocked him into linux lately :) he couldn't tell init from x so far ;)
[01:54] <zoidberg> sethk: its not a video card....its just tv-tuner card
[01:54] <sethk> zoidberg, I know
[01:54] <gottreu> Does ubuntu have a 3270 emulator?
[01:54] <sethk> zoidberg, tv is video
[01:54] <ubuntu_newbie> Jack_Sparrow...the computer is a server 2003 machine
[01:54] <zoidberg> lol
[01:54] <zoidberg> ok
[01:54] <gottreu> I _thought_ it did, but I might have been thinking about CentOS.
[01:54] <zoidberg> lol
[01:54] <jbaby> How do I install my CDs like frontpage cause I always get error messages
[01:54] <kingdong> livingdaylight, then do sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hdx      (where hdx is the drive/partition)
[01:55] <jazzrocker> DJGummikuh, because you encouraged him to use Linux doesn't entitle him to special treatment <- and I still maintain i haven't been at all "hard" on anyone
[01:55] <Groggzor> i alwasy get "Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface). ... " when i am trying to install ubuntu
[01:55] <thinkle> Hi all -- I'm interested in trying out the new GNOME release and wanted to know if an edgy upgrade would be a bad idea (I'm pretty savvy but wanted to make sure there weren't major known issues atm)
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu_newbie: I saw a page for setting up a nteware printer but the Win 2003 server dosnet conform to that does it?
[01:55] <DJGummikuh> jazzrocker: -.- you really didn't get the irony in it did you?
[01:55] <jazzrocker> DJGummikuh, there wasn't any irony
[01:56] <livingdaylight> kingdong: thx, so i got sata so it'd be mke2fffs -j /dev/sdb1
[01:56] <kingdong> thinkle: no major issues i'm aware of... but you never know
[01:56] <DJGummikuh> jazzrocker: in MY post you nut
[01:56] <jazzrocker> DJGummikuh, there wasn't any irony in your post
[01:56] <bluefusionxl> guys I have a question.  I chmodded all my files in /home to 700, and my ftp wouldnt let me on anymore.  I chmodded them to 777 and they did.  Why is that?
[01:56] <livingdaylight> Is it true if i have two hardrives then i only need one swap?
[01:56] <thinkle> kingdong  - right, but I'll go ahead and git it a whirl. At best I'll provide some useful bug reports, right :)
[01:56] <jbaby> How do you install setup.exe files in kubuntu? I cant install Frontpage
[01:56] <FuzzyLaptop> btw how do you just restart yr shell?
[01:56] <DJGummikuh> bluefusionxl: because with ftp you are not your user but an ftp user
[01:56] <thinkle> s/at best/at worst/
[01:56] <bluefusionxl> Wine
[01:56] <kingdong> thinkle, yes ;)
[01:56] <ubuntu_newbie> Jack_Sparrow i didnt see that page
[01:56] <Seveas> jbaby, you can't
[01:56] <kingdong> livingdaylight, sounds good
[01:56] <DJGummikuh> change the permissions to 755 and you should be fine
[01:56] <gottreu> jbaby: you don't
[01:56] <nozorro> !wine
[01:56] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:56] <cheatersrealm> what's the package for kde under ubuntu?
[01:56] <kingdong> cheatersrealm, kubuntu-desktop
[01:57] <Seveas> cheatersrealm, kubuntu-desktop
[01:57] <nick_> how do you kill an app through GUI under kubuntu
[01:57] <cheatersrealm> yikes
[01:57] <Seveas> nick_, xkill
[01:57] <cheatersrealm> thanks
[01:57] <jbaby> Can you run frontpage through Wine?
[01:57] <nick_> seveas: thanks
[01:57] <Seveas> jbaby, no
[01:57] <phin> kitche: ping
[01:57] <kingdong> jbaby, try vmware
[01:57] <[DMC] > what is the correct config to turn off a service like cups and keep it off?
[01:57] <jazzrocker> jbaby, oh god, please don't run frontpage!
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu_newbie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetwarePrintingFromUbuntu
[01:57] <bluefusionxl> I dont want my users to see my files though
[01:57] <jbaby> VMware?
[01:57] <Seveas> jbaby, ditch frontpage and use nvu or bluefish
[01:57] <livingdaylight> kingdong: did you saygood for 1 swap is ok for two hardrives?
[01:57] <jazzrocker> jbaby, if you want to run native windows apps your best bet is vmware-server. google.
[01:57] <nozorro> jbaby VMware, sure. Wine, not sure.
[01:58] <kingdong> jbaby, vmware-server is free, allows you to run a windows environment within ubuntu
[01:58] <Kill_X> got a startup problem, pre-init saying "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init"
[01:58] <kingdong> it's not super fast but it works great.
[01:58] <jbaby> Ive tried, NVU, it has no features
[01:58] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: me personally i use 1 swap for each harddrive
[01:58] <Groggzor> I am trying to install Ubuntu but i always get the same error message "Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface). ... " any know what i need to do ?????
[01:58] <Kill_X> anyone able to help?
[01:58] <cheatersrealm> Groggzor: probably edit your xorg.conf file
[01:58] <kingdong> livingdaylight, sorry please say again?
[01:58] <cheatersrealm> Groggzor: are you familiar with linux?
[01:58] <sethk> Kill_X, paste your kernel command line
[01:59] <jazzrocker> jbaby, don't use WYSIWYG web editors. they are bad for your health and bad for my sanity. and bad for the health and sanity of anyone who has to look at your code. and bad for your SEO. and bad in general.
[01:59] <jbaby> Im pretty much too lazy for NVU
[01:59] <OldTyme> on install i set my partitions. one for / & one for swap....after it formats & goes to install i get a "Error on IDE1" & it stops...... im installing on IDE #2. why is it even messing w/ 1. thkx
[01:59] <livingdaylight> kingdong: i got two sata drives. Is one swap enough for the two hd's?
[01:59] <nick_> seveas: how do you view the processes through GUI...control + Alt + ?
[01:59] <sethk> nick_, tab
[01:59] <kingdong> livingdaylight, yes you only need one swap partition
[01:59] <Kill_X> sethk, what exactly do you mean? Debug messages right before that?
[01:59] <jbaby> Dreamweaver is cool though
[01:59] <jazzrocker> jbaby, go to #css and learn the ways of the true web master
[01:59] <sethk> nick_, just alt
[01:59] <Groggzor> nope i am not familiar with linux, never used it before
[01:59] <Crippy-Boy> jbaby: If you NEED to run frontpage you'll have to use wine, but you really shouldnt touch frontpage, The code it genrates is nasty.
[01:59] <jazzrocker> jbaby, using Dreamweaver to code a site is like trying to perform surgery with oven mitts on
[02:00] <sethk> Kill_X, no, the kernel command line, usually from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:00] <thinkle> livingdaylight, System->Administration->System Monitor
[02:00] <jazzrocker> Crippy-Boy, no, he can use vmware-server. and in fact that's probably way better than wine.
[02:00] <livingdaylight> kingdong: thx
[02:00] <kingdong> np livingdaylight
[02:00] <jbaby> Wow, yall dont like WYSISYG do ya lol
[02:00] <sethk> jbaby, what you see is _all_ you get
[02:00] <Crippy-Boy> jazzrocker: Yeah, running it inside a VM which will slow it down, how exactly is that 'way better'
[02:00] <brian98_Laptop> Hi,, just wondering any recommendations about migrating a ubuntu install to a new drive?
[02:00] <jazzrocker> jbaby, it's not a dislike, its a proven fact that they generate crappy code.
[02:00] <designDream> i am currently running debian.. any docs into moving into ubuntu?
[02:01] <kingdong> jbaby use it if you want but we will try to discourage you ;)
[02:01] <jazzrocker> Crippy-Boy, hardly. way better = actually works and runs natively. e.g. IE in wine does *not* render the same as the native version
[02:01] <nick_> sethk: just alt isn't working...im using kubuntu
[02:01] <sethk> jazzrocker, hey, I can generate crappy code with any editor.
[02:01] <jbaby> My site didnt work no more in Linux, i couldnt view everything that I could see before in windows
[02:01] <ubuntu_newbie> Jack_Sparrow negative
[02:01] <Kill_X> sethk, actually I don't have access to my menu.lst right now. But, since I have not touched that file for weeks and the error just occured 5 hours ago, I don't think, that's the issue...
[02:01] <kingdong> i agree with jazzrocker.
[02:01] <jazzrocker> sethk, yes you can, but you cannot generate clean code with dreamweaver or any other wysiwyg app
[02:01] <Crippy-Boy> jazzrocker: So running in a VM is 'native' now?
[02:01] <sethk> nick_, so am I. perhaps I misunderstood the question.
[02:02] <sethk> jazzrocker, I don't use them, but I'm skeptical about a statement like that.
[02:02] <jbaby> And that was through linuxs browser vs windows browser
[02:02] <designDream> can a debian install be converted to ubuntu?
[02:02] <sethk> jazzrocker, if only because the vast majority of programmers use wysiwyg, so there isn't a valid control group that doesn't.
[02:02] <nick_> sethk: theres a keyboard command that you press to view the processors table to kill applications
[02:02] <OldTyme> on install i set my partitions. one for / & one for swap....after it formats & goes to install i get a "Error on IDE1" & it stops...... im installing on IDE #2. why is it even messing w/ 1. thkx
[02:02] <jazzrocker> sethk, uhhhh, i'm skeptical of THAT statement
[02:02] <Groggzor> can some PLEASE message me than know how to fix this, i am always getting the same error when i am trying to install Ubuntu "Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface). ... "
[02:02] <sethk> nick_, let me check something.
[02:02] <jazzrocker> sethk, where the *hell* do you get your data saying that "most programmers use wysiwyg" <- that's completely bogus
[02:02] <sethk> jazzrocker, oh yah???   :)
[02:02] <nick_> sethk: ok thanlks
[02:03] <asdx> edgy will be released in october?
[02:03] <sethk> jazzrocker, oh, not, absolutely not.  there are statistics gathered about that.
[02:03] <jesus_> hello
[02:03] <jesus_> i need help
[02:03] <jazzrocker> sethk, show me
[02:03] <Crippy-Boy> wysiwyg has its uses, As does coding 'properly'
[02:03] <nozorro> asdx: yep
[02:03] <jesus_> i recently installed my ubuntu distro
[02:03] <jesus_> but i have no sound :S
[02:03] <Kill_X> sethk, my rootfs is on an LVM volume, but somehow the system refuses to mount that volume saying, that the respective device does not exist. But actually the device exists...
[02:03] <enrique> hello
[02:03] <gnomefreak> asdx: late oct and please join #ubuntu+1 for edgy topics
[02:03] <asdx> ok
[02:03] <jesus_> hola enrique
[02:03] <enrique> THIS IS MY VERY FIRST TIME HERE
[02:03] <jazzrocker> omg
[02:03] <jbaby> Do all applications that you have running when you reboot normally come back on when it boots back up?
[02:03] <ubuntu_newbie> jesus_ install easyubuntu @ www.easyubuntu.com
[02:04] <enrique> and all of you know how to use linux?
[02:04] <jazzrocker> enrique, far from all.
[02:04] <gnomefreak> enrique_: lose the caps please
[02:04] <asdx> gnomefreak: but i guess ubuntu would release every in 6 months
[02:04] <asdx> ?
[02:04] <sethk> Kill_X, I didn't say the line is wrong.  I said I need to see the line to know how to troubleshoot the problem.
[02:04] <gnomefreak> asdx: yes give or take
[02:04] <enrique> got it
[02:04] <jesus_> what is easyubuntu?
[02:04] <ubuntu_newbie> Jack__Sparrow that netware thing didnt work
[02:04] <Kill_X> sethk, well, do you have some minutes?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> !easyubuntu
[02:04] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:05] <jesus_> hmm thanks
[02:05] <ubuntu_newbie> jesus_ also automatix
[02:05] <enrique> can anybody help me on how to connect 2 ubuntu computers together to see each other's files?
[02:05] <ubuntu_newbie> !automatix
[02:05] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[02:05] <enrique> please
[02:05] <Kill_X> gotta boot the 6.10.1 livecd and get my wlan working
[02:05] <jesus_> it will make my box sound again?
[02:05] <sethk> nick_, let me check something.
[02:05] <jesus_> cause i was using kanotix
[02:05] <jazzrocker> sethk, you still haven't shown me these magical "gathered statistics" or who gathered them or under what thesis/bias
[02:05] <jesus_> i decided to test ubuntu
[02:05] <sethk> nick_, do you mean alt-F5?
[02:05] <ivaldi> Hello. I am having a problem with changing my sound volume with the volume keys on my keyboard. They do bring up the volume meter, but changes the wrong alsa channel. Does anyone know how to resolve this?
[02:05] <sethk> jazzrocker, indeed, I can't do two things at once.  but google for it, you'll find it, or wait until I find it.
[02:05] <nick_> sethk: nope
[02:06] <jbaby> I installed Automatix, got a lot of errors  but everything it installed seems to work
[02:06] <enrique> can anybody help me on how to connect 2 ubuntu computers together to see each other's files?
[02:06] <nick_> sethk: i think its control + alt +
[02:06] <jazzrocker> sethk, what exactly should i google for. "wysiwyg are teh leet" ?
[02:06] <liquidangle> anyone else in southern california who's company is hiring for entry level ?
[02:06] <sethk> nick_, there is no key to install that.
[02:06] <jesus_> i have ubuntu hoary hedgehog 50.4
[02:06] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk can you help me to print to my windows print server
[02:06] <jesus_> 5.04
[02:06] <gnomefreak> liquidangle: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:06] <nick_> sethk: ok because i made it come up beofre when i was fooling around
[02:06] <sethk> jazzrocker, if you are serious and not just trolling, you would look for user estimates of the various development tools
[02:06] <nick_> sethk: thanks anyway
[02:06] <superjew9020> can someon help me im tryin to use rtorrent but every time  i try and start it it says it could not load "~/.rtorrent.rc"
[02:06] <Kill_X> sethk: It'll take about 5 minutes, I'll be back as fast as possible...
[02:06] <Groggzor> any here that can help me please
[02:06] <liquidangle> gnomefreak: sure thing
[02:07] <jbaby> I am surprised NVU is considerred WYSIWYG, Its a pain in the butt
[02:07] <jazzrocker> sethk, uhhhh, that's an extremely loaded and validly flawed syllogism there buddy
[02:07] <enrique> can anybody help me on how to connect 2 ubuntu computers together to see each other's files?
[02:07] <superjew9020> can anyone help meeeeeee
[02:07] <ACU> How to I urar an rar file (what Linux application can I use) ?
[02:07] <sethk> jazzrocker, if you are interested, the figures are there.  If you don't care enough to look it up, well, it doesn't make any difference to me.
[02:07] <Crippy-Boy> ACU@ unrar
[02:08] <jazzrocker> sethk, *you* are the one making this claim that there are "gathered statistics" and that you've seen said statistics
[02:08] <jesus_> hmmm
[02:08] <enrique> can anybody help me?
[02:08] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk some help please?
[02:08] <jesus_> the sound is now working
[02:08] <jesus_> :S
[02:08] <enrique> with networking?
[02:08] <jesus_> estrange :S
[02:08] <jazzrocker> sethk, burden of proof is yours. dig?
[02:08] <kingdong> it is the burden of the person making the claim to support the claim
[02:08] <Groggzor> is there some other irc channel that is better to get some help for Ubuntu?
[02:08] <sethk> jazzrocker, indeed.  I have absolutely no obligation to justify anything whatsoever to you.
[02:08] <nozorro> enrique, it depends on what you want to do
[02:08] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, ask a question and we'll try.
[02:09] <jazzrocker> sethk, of course not, unless you want people to take you seriously.
[02:09] <superjew9020> helllloooooo
[02:09] <enrique> i want to connect to pcs with ubuntu to see the files from both hard drives
[02:09] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk can you please help me to print to my windows print server?
[02:09] <gnomefreak> jazzrocker: and seth please drop it
[02:09] <sethk> jazzrocker, this isn't even a #ubuntu question, so take it off line please
[02:09] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, you use samba to do that, so question one is, is samba installed?
[02:09] <mark_> Problem: firefox mplayerplug-in can't play mp3 files, and anyway i'd prefer they open in xmms instead of fullscreen in firefox. any ideas?
[02:09] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk its a windows server 2003 server on AD
[02:09] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk samba is installed
[02:09] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, AD?
[02:09] <nozorro> enrique: that is to say, both should see the other's user's files?
[02:09] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk Active Directory
[02:10] <enrique> yep
[02:10] <enrique> please help
[02:10] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk for authentication
[02:10] <enrique> i need to synchronize my desktop and laptops
[02:10] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, ok.  I don't think active directory is going to prevent you from accessing a shared printer, but I'm not a windows expert by any means.
[02:10] <superjew9020> can someon help me im tryin to use rtorrent but every time  i try and start it it says it could not load "~/.rtorrent.rc"
[02:10] <nozorro> enrique: to sync, that's not that easy
[02:11] <enrique> i mean at least i want to be able to transfer files back and forth with a network cable than with a flash drive or my ipod
[02:11] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk well active directory aside.. i cannot print
[02:11] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, the cups admin gui can be used to browse for windows printers.
[02:11] <enrique> i just wanna be able to come home and send the stuff from my laptop to my desktop everynight
[02:11] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk but the windows printer isnt configured for cups
[02:11] <nozorro> enrique: youcan right click on folder and select 'share' and follow from there
[02:11] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, that doesn't matter.
[02:12] <enrique> yeah but how do you set up stuff?
[02:12] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk so how do i use the cups admin gui
[02:12] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, that would matter if you want to access a printer connected to a linux box, from windows
[02:12] <enrique> like which program to use
[02:12] <superjew9020> can u guys help me or not
[02:12] <enrique> or do i need samba?
[02:12] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, you run a browser as root and use the url   http://localhost:631
[02:13] <sethk> superjew9020, sorry, I don't know the answer
[02:13] <nozorro> enrique: samba maybe.
[02:13] <superjew9020> ok
[02:13] <sethk> enrique, you can use scp and sftp.  cygwin has the windows side programs.
[02:13] <enrique> i thought there be an easier way
[02:13] <superjew9020> can anyone else help me
[02:13] <sethk> enrique, sftp is quite easy
[02:13] <enrique> yeah but i don't use cygwin
[02:14] <sethk> enrique, install it.
[02:14] <enrique> but i have gftp
[02:14] <enrique> which is quite easy
[02:14] <Crippy-Boy> superjew9020: i dont know nothing about rtorrent but it sounds like its looking for a script that isnt there.
[02:14] <sethk> enrique, you can run an ftp server on the linux side easily enough
[02:14] <nozorro> enrique, you sadi ubuntu on both machines
[02:14] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk could you advise me what to do at the page?
[02:14] <enrique> i just want like to connect 2 pcs with an ethernet cable and be able to see the hard drives from both pcs
[02:14] <nozorro> you sadi*
[02:14] <enrique> yeah
[02:14] <enrique> ubuntu on laptop and xubuntu on desktop
[02:14] <gnomefreak> superjew9020: paste the full message it gives you to pastebin please
[02:15] <nozorro> enrique: it's doesn't wokr just like this
[02:15] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, you add a printer.  the interesting part will be where you specify the "port" for the printer.
[02:15] <superjew9020> its only three lines
[02:15] <Crippy-Boy> superjew9020: and is it actually in your home directory?
[02:15] <jbaby> Is VMWare a big time resource hog??
[02:15] <gnomefreak> superjew9020: are you sure its ~/.rtorrent.rc?
[02:15] <superjew9020> yeah
[02:16] <superjew9020> definetly
[02:16] <gnomefreak> jbaby: how about taking random comments to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:16] <sethk> jbaby, yes
[02:16] <zenwifi> sup
[02:16] <Crippy-Boy> gnomefreak: It wasnt a comment, it was a question...
[02:16] <enrique> what about that program "UNISION" or something
[02:16] <gnomefreak> superjew9020: open your home dir in nautilus and click ctrl +h
[02:16] <enrique> has anybody tried it?
[02:16] <gnomefreak> oh sorry
[02:16] <eugman> Anyone who knows the command line well, some help with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CliDesktop would be appreciated.
[02:17] <nozorro> enrique: if you have ubuntu on both machines, install openssh-on the desktop system. you can then connect from the laptop using the file manager
[02:17] <jbaby> Someone in the room told me to try VMware and I was asking was it a resource hog
[02:17] <superjew9020> ok now wat
[02:17] <nozorro> enrique: i wanted to say install openssh-server
[02:17] <Crippy-Boy> jbaby: Yes it is.
[02:17] <gnomefreak> any VMs are resource hogs
[02:18] <gnomefreak> superjew9020: do you see the file it asks for?
[02:18] <Crippy-Boy> jbaby: If your trying to run it just for frontpage, Look for an alternative to frontpage.
[02:18] <enrique> the thing i would like to do is to be able to see the pc drives on the /media/ folder in the laptop and the laptop drives in the /media/ folder in the pc
[02:18] <superjew9020> uhh h/o
[02:18] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk im getting a no matches found error
[02:18] <enrique> sounds weird?
[02:18] <superjew9020> its not there
[02:19] <Red-Sox> can someone please highlight me
[02:19] <Kill_X> sethk: re
[02:19] <gnomefreak> eugman: join #ubuntu-offtopic and ping me there
[02:19] <gnomefreak> Red-Sox: what?
[02:19] <Kill_X> sethk: wait a secont, have to mount my rootfs
[02:19] <Red-Sox> ah crap
[02:19] <Red-Sox> hold on
[02:19] <Red-Sox> okay, try again
[02:19] <Kill_X> *second
[02:19] <jbaby> Ok, but theres other progz that I have for windows like yahoo messenger and games, but I only have 256mb mem. Is it even worth trying VM?
[02:19] <Kill_X> ^^
[02:19] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk the printer is shared so i dont know whats wrong
[02:20] <superjew9020> gnomefreak iits not there
[02:20] <gnomefreak> superjew9020: than i suggest you make one or have rtorrent generate one if you can
[02:20] <Crippy-Boy> jbaby: there are plenty of alternatives for yahoo etc. And no with 256 ram dont run VMWare
[02:20] <kitche> jbaby: well you can use gaim for yahoo messenger and games your kinda stuck with windows
[02:21] <jbaby> ok
[02:21] <LOL> how can I create a Sticky Notes (the gnome applet) shortcut on my desktop?
[02:21] <nozorro> enrique: use the ssh server on both sides then.
[02:21] <superjew9020> uhh how?
[02:21] <jbaby> Linux games kinda remind me of an atari 2600 lol
[02:21] <Red-Sox> Can someone say my name again please?
[02:21] <ubuntu_newbie> lol
[02:21] <gnomefreak> Red-Sox:
[02:21] <nozorro> enrique: read here for an intro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[02:21] <Kill_X> sethk: so...
[02:21] <jbaby> LOL: Drag and drop
[02:21] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk: hello?
[02:21] <gnomefreak> Red-Sox: i think you need to use #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[02:21] <sethk> Kill_X, sorry, I'm on a call, give me a moment.
[02:21] <LOL> jbaby from where?
[02:21] <enrique> i know how ssh works, i would be able to log in to another computer and work on it but i want to be able to send the files from one to the other and vice versa fast like with cut and paste
[02:21] <Kill_X> sethk: what line do you need?
[02:22] <Red-Sox> gnomefreak: no one answered :(
[02:22] <enrique> i will, thanks nozorro
[02:22] <Kill_X> sethk: ah, k
[02:22] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, sorry, I'm tied up for a few more minutes.
[02:22] <jbaby> Actually, I have Sticky note in my taskbar
[02:22] <zebedee> Good evening all... a couple of questions... Does anyone know of an easy to use c compiler (as complete novice) to compile driver for my RTL8180L wireless Lan card? and... I need advice pls on copying my hardrive (size 4gb) contents to new 10gb hardrive, soon to be ex win98! (connect to machine as slave and then,,,?). Many thx in advance, Zebedee
[02:22] <Crippy-Boy> Hahaha this is awesome, Watching family guy in ascii.
[02:22] <nozorro> enrique: it will do exactly that, using the nautilus file manager.
[02:22] <superjew9020> Gnomefreak how do i do that??
[02:22] <kitche> enrique: you can use scp which is ssh copy
[02:22] <LOL> jbaby, yup, i dont notice the small icon and forget to open them though so i want it to be on my desktop
[02:22] <jbaby> Nope not on my desktop
[02:22] <Kill_X> sethk: I'll be 5mins afk meanwhile ;)
[02:22] <enrique> kewl kewl
[02:22] <bluefusionxl> hey.. my webmin says apache isnt started.  But it is, what do you suppose is wrong?
[02:23] <enrique> i gotta go, but thanks, and i'll read that how to
[02:23] <enrique> thanks nozorro
[02:23] <ubuntu_newbie> all thats stopping me from a complete switch to ubuntu is this stupid printer issue
[02:23] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, it's shared with no restrictions at all?
[02:23] <nozorro> enrique: if you have the ssh server on both sides, you can use drag and drop in file manager. just make sure that you have the same user accounts on both sides, and read how to do passwordless authentication
[02:23] <gnomefreak> superjew9020: you can make one with mkdir ~/.rtorrent.rc but it will be empty you will need the default file maybe get it from the rtorrent site i dont know how rtorrent works but maybe using sudo apt-get install --reinstall rtorrent might work
[02:24] <enrique> passwordless authentication?????? you got me there dude, i have never heard of that
[02:24] <enrique> its gonna ask me for my password
[02:24] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk: i believe so but i'll check again
[02:25] <nozorro> enrique: configure ssh not to use passwords, for ease of use. it's possible
[02:25] <kingdong> you can authenticate ssh with keys
[02:25] <Crippy-Boy> enrique: Use public key authentication.
[02:25] <enrique> ok, i'll check the man pages
[02:25] <jbaby> Is there a place I can get Nortin I.S. for kubuntu?
[02:25] <enrique> they are kicking me out
[02:25] <enrique> thanks again nozorro
[02:25] <enrique> gotta go
[02:25] <Crippy-Boy> jbaby: no but you dont need that.
[02:25] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk: the rights say that anyone has the right to print
[02:26] <nozorro> enrique: google for that: passwordless authentication ssh. there's different ways to achieve that
[02:26] <Crippy-Boy> jbaby: But if you feel you need to have an av/firewall theres a few alternatives.
[02:26] <jbaby> I wouldnt wanna open Email att without AV
[02:26] <Crippy-Boy> jbaby: There arent many virii for linux, but if you need an av to feel save, Grab clamAV or i think avast do a linux version
[02:27] <kingdong> generally speaking you shouldn't open e-mail attachments with executables
[02:27] <kingdong> unless the binary is signed by someone you trust
[02:27] <kingdong> whether you have AV or not.
[02:27] <jbaby> Well, I have a computer illiterate girlfriend and kids who just get mouseclick happy
[02:27] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk: anyone can print
[02:28] <corevette> would anyone know why my netgear wg311t wouldn't work with linux?
[02:28] <PathagenX> !repos
[02:28] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:28] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, is it possible for you to browse for printers using a windows box that does not authenticate to the domain server?
[02:28] <Kill_X> sethk: I'm back... mind a pm?
[02:28] <sethk> Kill_X, no, I don't mind.
[02:28] <PathagenX> !repositories
[02:28] <linux1> latest updates from ubuntu ok to install, no known problems?
[02:29] <jbaby> Oh yeah, How do I install my digicam?
[02:29] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, if a windows box that is unknown to the domain server sees the printer, then we'll know it's unrelated to authentication
[02:29] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, we have to narrow it down in some manner.
[02:29] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk: well to access the server a computer must provide authentication
[02:29] <klug> what is a recomended gnome program to burn iso files >?
[02:30] <Crippy-Boy> GnomeBaker
[02:30] <linux1> latest updates from ubuntu ok to install? any known problems?
[02:30] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, right, but is the server moderating access to the printer?
[02:30] <ladydoor> !repeat
[02:30] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:30] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, the printer isn't connected to the domain server?  or is it?
[02:30] <Crippy-Boy> or install kdelibs and k3b(which i prefer) but theyre both just front ends for command line utils
[02:31] <jbaby> klug: I use KBR to install ISO files
[02:31] <CorpseFeeder> Setting up RT61 wireless card for WPA-PSK. I'm editing file rt61sta.dat - what do I put in "AuthMode="? it currently says "OPEN"
[02:31] <klug> thanx jbaby
[02:31] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk: the printer is connected to the domain server
[02:31] <ladydoor> linux1: and that depends. do you mean dist-upgrading to edgy or just upgrading to the latest dapper packages?
[02:31] <jbaby> KBR
[02:31] <jbaby> KB3 not KBR
[02:31] <linux1> latest dapper
[02:31] <klug> ahh
[02:31] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, ah, then samba has to log into the server also.
[02:31] <ladydoor> linux1: i didn't have any problems...
[02:31] <klug> for gnome ehh ?
[02:31] <linux1> lady , ok thank you
[02:31] <jbaby> I dont know that gnome
[02:31] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk: oookk...so how do i do that?
[02:31] <jbaby> I dont know what gnome is
[02:32] <Crippy-Boy> klug: GnomeBaker for gnome, I just prefer k3b
[02:32] <ubuntu_newbie> lol
[02:32] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, there is a howto around about accessing windows shares.  it talks about authentication.  Of course you are doing printing, not shares, but the authentication is the same for both
[02:32] <gnomefreak> k3b?
[02:32] <jbaby> Does Kubuntu have Gnome and KBE both?
[02:32] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, check out smbpasswd
[02:33] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk: where is this howto?
[02:33] <linux1> jbaby: no kubuntu =kde ubuntu=gnome
[02:33] <asiatic> ?firefox
[02:33] <gnomefreak> jbaby: you can install gnome and kde on the same system
[02:33] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, anyone know the URL for the howto about accessing windows network resources from linux?
[02:33] <jbaby> Whats the difference between the two?
[02:33] <Crippy-Boy> jbaby: Alot, Try them and see for yourself.
[02:34] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, someone will come up with it; in the meantime do a search on the ubuntu site.
[02:34] <PathagenX> I hate gnome-xchat
[02:34] <asiatic> !firefox
[02:34] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[02:34] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk: thanx for all ur help sethk
[02:34] <CorpseFeeder> What do I put for AuthMode= and EncryptType= if I am seting up for WPA-PSK? I know it is AuthMode=SHARED and EncryptType=WEP for WEP, but I am not using WEP. What do I put in the file for WPA-PSK?
[02:34] <gnomefreak> PathagenX: its xchat-gnome and mmost people didnt like it so it was removed from dapper install
[02:34] <PathagenX> I ripped out firefox and installed epiphany
[02:34] <jbaby> Which one does windows have? Gnome or KDE?
[02:34] <Crippy-Boy> jbaby: neither
[02:35] <ladydoor> jbaby: neither
[02:35] <PathagenX> Uhm? o.o Windows has explorer
[02:35] <kingdong> you can get gtk+ for windows to ease porting
[02:35] <jbaby> KDE is the desktop?
[02:35] <nozorro> PathagenX: epiphany should come by default with ubuntu
[02:35] <gnomefreak> jbaby: yes
[02:35] <asiatic> !terminal