[12:30] <juan> how do i restart kdm or atleast a comand to logout(bonus points if it logs me back in)
[12:30] <ikonia> cre8torx: come on, this is not appropriate
[12:30] <samad909> ikonia: its my last option?
[12:30] <misslecommander> windows works, and i am happy when it works, not some gui that is slow as dos was 10 years ago
[12:30] <n2diy> ikonia: ???
[12:30] <cre8torx> your right
[12:30] <ikonia> samad909: I think it's a reasonable option, just as reasonable as mounting it on /home
[12:30] <unop> bullgard4, I dont think you are entering the right mode there -- you have to enter something like 792 instead of 80x25, etc .. there's a table there to guide you on it
[12:30] <misslecommander> simple question, noone can answer
[12:30] <cre8torx> boot the window's users
[12:30] <n2diy> ikonia: Windows is a trademark, winders isn't.
[12:30] <sparkybean> missile commander: okay, if you dont care about security do: sudo passwd root
[12:30] <samad909> ikonia: how would i mount that partition as /mount/sdb2?
[12:31] <sparkybean> then always as root
[12:31] <ikonia> samad909: mount /dev/sdb2 /mount/sdb2
[12:31] <sparkybean> and you can do anything
[12:31] <ikonia> misslecommander: what do you want to know
[12:31] <neopsyche_> misselcommander.. windows.. works, kde / gnome works better
[12:31] <samad909> ikonia: in install options /mount/sdb2?
[12:31] <neopsyche_> ;-)
[12:31] <misslecommander> how do i copy a file to a directory that it tells me i have no rights to copy it to ? how do i change the permissions to allow for me to copy the file to any directory i wish ?
[12:31] <ikonia> samad909: install otions ?
[12:31] <hottium> misslecommander: chmod
[12:31] <unop> misslecommander,  sudo cp file destination
[12:31] <sparkybean> login as root and you ca do anything :)
[12:31] <duudii> misslecommander: still confused with "sudo"?
[12:31] <samad909> ikonia: partitioning while installing ubuntu
[12:31] <ikonia> misslecommander: use sudo to act as a root command prompt and use the commands to move or change the permissions
[12:32] <ikonia> samad909: oooh I see
[12:32] <ikonia> samad909: no no no, don't do that
[12:32] <cre8torx> what's the possiblity of some one hacking his computer when he's using SU there's probly nothing of intrest there anyway
[12:32] <samad909> ikonia: what do i mount it as then?
[12:32] <ikonia> cre8torx: it's not about the proability, its about a uniform advice
[12:32] <cre8torx> right
[12:32] <BuFF> i want to import presents from winamp to xmms, coul someone tell me how to do it ?
[12:32] <misslecommander> thank you, that is much more help than telling me of security issues
[12:32] <ikonia> samad909: in the partition option you can select additioanal mount points, mount /dev/sdb2 where ever you want (eg: /media/windows-disk)
[12:33] <samad909> ikonia: so shall i just leave it as /mount/sdb2
[12:33] <sparkybean> missile commander: have you got that file copied then?
[12:33] <ikonia> samad909: sure, if you want
[12:33] <cre8torx> use ummmmm synaptic package manager for your downloads them
[12:33] <cre8torx> then
[12:33] <robinsjostrom> how do you unpack a -7zip file?
[12:34] <samad909> ikonia: alright, i will setup the partitions and ask you the stuff i need, thanks for now
[12:34] <cre8torx> -7zip --help
[12:34] <cre8torx> you'll see
[12:34] <robinsjostrom> no
[12:34] <bullgard4> I have seen that table. I first did 'hwinfo --framebuffer'. Answer: vga=0x316 (1024x768x15) is allowed. When I put 'vga=0x316' in Grub's kernel line I do obtain a black screen and no consoles.
[12:35] <bullgard4> unop: I have seen that table. I first did 'hwinfo --framebuffer'. Answer: vga=0x316 (1024x768x15) is allowed. When I put 'vga=0x316' in Grub's kernel line I do obtain a black screen and no consoles.
[12:35] <Ziroday> !7z > robinsjostrom (see PM from ubotu)
[12:35] <cre8torx> got a better question what's 7zip
[12:35] <Ziroday> cre8torx: type of file compression
[12:35] <n2diy> ! 7zip
[12:35] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[12:35] <cre8torx> right like bzip tar gz
[12:36] <cre8torx> never ran into a 7zip
[12:36] <Ziroday> cre8torx: correct
[12:36] <ikonia> never heard of 7zip either
[12:36] <cre8torx> im lost
[12:36] <n2diy> nor I
[12:37] <cre8torx> better question where does one find a 7zip
[12:37] <samad909> ikonia: the ntfs partition does not mount, it says resume partition and i tried again, what now?
[12:37] <IdleOne> little known file archive usualy used in windows enviroments
[12:37] <juan> its a windows format like zip but well erm im not sure why anybody would use it over size, perhaps compression
[12:37] <cre8torx> I've seen alot of files ext zip's but not tah
[12:37] <ikonia> samad909: resume partition, are you sure thats the right /dev file for it
[12:37] <cre8torx> I've seen alot of files ext zip's but not that
[12:37] <jqk> cre8torx: In synaptic (if it's there), or from their site.
[12:37] <Ziroday> cre8torx: well i donwloaded one today that contained firmware for tomato router firmware
[12:37] <samad909> ikonia: /dev/sdb2 or /mount/sdb2
[12:38] <Ziroday> cre8torx: www.polarcloud.com/tomato
[12:38] <ikonia> samad909: /dev is the device file
[12:38] <cre8torx> yeah
[12:38] <samad909> ikonia: the partition is listed as use as:ntfs, mount point: /mount/sdb2, boot flag: no
[12:39] <ikonia> samad909: that seems reasonable, leave that alone
[12:39] <ikonia> samad909: what installer are you using
[12:39] <cre8torx> yeah
[12:39] <mutable> hi. i want to change ubuntu upsplash to standart verbose bootsplash, how do i do that? i cannot find anything else than changing upslash theme in google
[12:39] <samad909> ikonia: ubuntu-alt-7.10
[12:39] <samad909> ikonia: text based
[12:39] <Ziroday> mutable: on boot up you can press alt+f1 to get verbose messages
[12:40] <DreamLnr> hhi
[12:40] <mutable> Ziroday: no, i want bootsplash !
[12:40] <cre8torx> settings splash screen settings
[12:40] <cre8torx> ?
[12:40] <samad909> ikonia: shall i not mount it? will i be able to mount it later?
[12:40] <ikonia> samad909: I'll be honest, I don't know what your on about, the installer look slike it will mount it at boot time
[12:40] <DreamLnr> my keyboard stoped workng suddenly
[12:40] <ikonia> samad909: your not making any sense
[12:40] <Ziroday> mutable: then you simply change your usplash theme to one that supports showing of verbose messages, its easy to install usplash themes with SUM
[12:40] <ikonia> samad909: ignore it, install ubuntu, then we'll mount it manually later
[12:41] <DreamLnr> now keys work when helddd pushed
[12:41] <DreamLnr> i have feisty
[12:42] <DreamLnr> how do i fix it/
[12:42] <Ziroday> DreamLnr: tried with a different keyboard?
[12:42] <cre8torx> yeah know clue
[12:42] <n2diy> DreamLnr: What did you push?
[12:42] <DreamLnr> Ziroday, its laptop
[12:43] <opiumchik> привет )
[12:43] <dgjones> !ru | opiumchik
[12:43] <ubotu> opiumchik: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[12:43] <ikonia> opiumchik: this channel is english only
[12:43] <alpaco_> zdrastviche
[12:43] <DreamLnr> when logginng in it works ok
[12:43] <DreamLnr> but when logd in,no
[12:44] <alpaco_> how do I check the md5 sum on a file?
[12:44] <opiumchik> thanks
[12:45] <n2diy> DreamLnr: So, logd is probably calling the wrong module, and needs be edited?
[12:46] <DreamLnr> not logd
[12:46] <DreamLnr> logged
[12:46] <DreamLnr> i have it difficlt to type
[12:46] <th0r> alpaco_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[12:47] <cre8torx> keep adjusting you KB settingssss
[12:47] <DreamLnr> to hold key for kyboard to work
[12:47] <cre8torx> igot news
[12:48] <DreamLnr> where are they?
[12:48] <n2diy> DreamLnr: whatever, read "man loadkeys", maybe that will help?
[12:48] <DreamLnr> ill try
[12:48] <IdleOne> !md5 | alpaco
[12:48] <samad909> ikonia: looks like the installer is stuck :S, its on configuring apt on 40%, the cdrom or harddisk is not been read, its saying scanning the mirror and just there on 40%
[12:48] <ubotu> alpaco: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[12:48] <ikonia> samad909: patience
[12:48] <samad909> ikonia: alright
[12:50] <VvWolverinevV> hey im trying to setup a new dual boot machine, but im unable to boot from the vista install DVD
[12:50] <cre8torx> jolt bubble gum cool
[12:50] <VvWolverinevV> i get the message "reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key"
[12:51] <VvWolverinevV> any ideas?
[12:51] <th0r> VvWolverinevV you expect to find vista support here? <smile>
[12:51] <ikonia> VvWolverinevV: that is not an ubuntu problem
[12:51] <samad909> ikonia: hmm, does this usually take so long on high end machines too?
[12:51] <ikonia> samad909: can do if your mirror is slow
[12:51] <VvWolverinevV> th0r: ubuntu is next, but i want to dual boot
[12:51] <ikonia> samad909: it can hang too sometimes
[12:51] <cre8torx> here's some advise get rid of vista
[12:51] <ikonia> VvWolverinevV: this is not vista support. Join ##windows
[12:51] <n2diy> VvWolverinevV: dual boot? what is installed now?
[12:51] <dgjones> VvWolverinevV, you'd be better asking in ##windows about that problem
[12:51] <VvWolverinevV> k, thanks
[12:51] <samad909> ikonia: i dont think it is scanning the net/cdrom/hard
[12:51] <cre8torx> yeah that not are prob
[12:51] <miline> Anyone having inspiron 1420 integrated webcam working on ubuntu 7.10?
[12:52] <ikonia> samad909 should be doing that net
[12:52] <arthur37854> question? I noticed after a set number of reboots ubuntu forces a disk check, is there a way to invoke it manually ?
[12:52] <Helvasca> everyone get in #trivia
[12:52] <IdleOne> arthur37854: fsck
[12:52] <samad909> ikonia: can not be as the network card light isn't even on
[12:52] <miline> arthur37854, fsck
[12:52] <arthur37854> ty
[12:52]  * Helvasca is urging everyone to join #trivia
[12:52] <ikonia> samad909: that suggests there is no nick
[12:52] <h1st0> VvWolverinevV: you need to change your bios so you can boot off of the cdrom drive.
[12:52] <miline> Anyone having inspiron 1420 integrated webcam working on ubuntu 7.10?
[12:53] <samad909> ikonia: you mean net?
[12:53] <h1st0> !patience > miline,   miline Read the private message from ubotu.
[12:53] <VvWolverinevV> h1st0: the boot order says floppy, HDD, atapi CD
[12:53] <miline> h1st0, sure :)
[12:53] <VvWolverinevV> wouldn't that work?
[12:53] <h1st0> VvWolverinevV: change it so that cd is first
[12:53] <VvWolverinevV> ok, not a bad idea
[12:53] <VvWolverinevV> brb
[12:54] <samad909> ikonia: hmm, well i am connected to the same router on this machine
[12:54] <cre8torx> get rid of vista
[12:54] <h1st0> miline: also you are asking a very specific hardware question.  YOu may be better off searching the forums for your hardware.
[12:54] <arthur37854> can you fsck while you the drive is mounted and running the os?
[12:54] <ikonia> samad909: no light = no link
[12:54] <samad909> ikonia: it is linked, i was on xp a few mins back and now i checked too, what could be wrong?
[12:54] <miline> arthur37854, man fsck
[12:54] <arthur37854> ok ty
[12:55] <samad909> ikonia: alright moved to 80% now XD
[12:55] <VvWolverinevV> h1st0: same message
[12:55] <ikonia> excellent
[12:55] <DreamLnr> keymaps dir is empty
[12:55] <VvWolverinevV> :(
[12:55] <jrib> arthur37854: just do 'sudo touch /forcefsck' and reboot.  It will force a check then
[12:55] <miline> arthur37854, it should
[12:55] <miline> arthur37854, I mean fsck should check mounted filesystem
[12:55] <DreamLnr> how do i fix it?
[12:56] <h1st0> arthur37854: yes
[12:57] <VvWolverinevV> h1st0: the options for booting are "atapi CD" but the media is a dvd, would that matter?
[12:57] <h1st0> VvWolverinevV: shouldn't as long as the drive can read a dvd.
[12:57] <cre8torx> what ever your master boot drive is
[12:57] <h1st0> VvWolverinevV: can the drive read a dvd?
[12:57] <VvWolverinevV> yes
[12:57] <ikonia> VvWolverinevV this is NOT an ubuntu issue
[12:57] <cre8torx> like if you have too drives make sure you put the master first
[12:58] <ikonia> VvWolverinevV you have been asked to not progress this in here
[12:58] <h1st0> VvWolverinevV: then it doesn't matter just as long as it set to boot that first.
[12:58] <punkshui> hello all, i need to reinstall grub on a dual boot machine running os x and ubuntu. can someone help?
[12:58] <h1st0> ikonia: its a hardware issue atm.
[12:58] <ikonia> h1st0: this is not hardware support
[12:58] <VvWolverinevV> h1st0: can i pm u?
[12:58] <ikonia> VvWolverinevV: ##hardware or ##windows
[12:58] <samad909> ikonia: waiting with patience again, scanning security repos and on 80%
[12:58] <th0r> punkshui I can pastebin some notes on that...give me a sec
[12:58] <ikonia> depending on what your debugging
[12:58] <cre8torx> VvWolverinevV> wrong room dude
[12:59] <cre8torx> #vista #windows
[12:59] <h1st0> ikonia: so anytime you help someone wiht hardware issues I will start throwing up ##hardware links
[12:59] <th0r> punkshui http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52128/
[12:59] <ikonia> h1st0: no problem. I don't support hardware issues
[12:59] <punkshui> th0r thanks a lot. i just need to be careful because i use refit and i don't want to lose my mac partitions
[12:59] <h1st0> ikonia: you also tell people to read the manual.
[13:00] <ikonia> h1st0: very rarley
[13:00] <misc--> how can I tell which driver my wireless card is using?
[13:00] <cre8torx> VvWolverinevV> 's in #window's too but probly not getting any help because they don't know either
[13:00] <th0r> punkshui I know nothing about mac...wish I did. But you always need to be careful mucking about with the mbr
[13:00] <h1st0> misc--: wat kind of card is it?
[13:00] <h1st0> misc--: lspci
[13:00] <ikonia> h1st0: that won't tell it what drivers are being used
[13:01] <punkshui> th0r i was told not to change the mbr, i'm just supposed to reinstall grub.. apparently my system can't find /boot/grub and so it gives me an error
[13:01] <h1st0> ikonia: I know but I can tell him if I know what crd it is.
[13:01] <ikonia> misc--: lsmod will show a list of drivers loaded on your system that you should be able to work out which one matches which
[13:01] <ikonia> h1st0: I appriciate that
[13:01] <th0r> punkshui in that case...don't use the notes...they assume grub is intact to begin with
[13:02] <punkshui> th0r yeah i'm not sure that it is
[13:02] <punkshui> th0r but all i did was restore my root partition from a partimage restore image... but in order to do so i had to use gparted to resize the root partition ... after that upon reboot i get no grub
[13:02] <misc--> h1st0: it's an ipw2200 card but when I type in lsmod, the "used by" column has a 0
[13:03] <cre8torx> lspci
[13:03] <th0r> punkshui ok...this is my best guess...no guarantees....
[13:03] <h1st0> misc--: then you are using the ipw2200 driver.
[13:03] <misc--> Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
[13:03] <DreamLnr> my keyboard on kubuntu feisty stoped workng suddenly, now keys work when helddd pushed for a sec. in login screen its ok,when logged in-a problem.help
[13:03] <h1st0> misc--: ieee80211
[13:03] <misslecommand> lol, this is funny
[13:03] <h1st0> misc--: Yeah I have the same card.
[13:03] <erpo> Whenever I run an apt-get command, it tells me that dpkg was interrupted and that I must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a'. When I run this command, it tells me "dpkg: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1".
[13:03] <th0r> punkshui no...that won't work either <smile>. Not sure how you could go about fixing that....you can get into mac now right? just lost grub and ubuntu?
[13:03] <misslecommand> i cant believe it takes 5 hours to install a simple videocard driver
[13:04] <DreamLnr> keymaps dir its empty
[13:04] <punkshui> th0r yeah im in mac right now
[13:04] <h1st0> misslecommand: it shouldn't.  What are you trying to install
[13:04] <misslecommand> someone please check out this post by aTomic http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-281358.html
[13:04] <misc--> h1st0: right ok then. Well anyway yeah I verified that it's using the ipw2200 driver
[13:04] <h1st0> misc--: yeah look atht eh ieee80211 entry in lsmod
[13:04] <misslecommand> i am at that point now, i habe no internet connection for the ubuntu, so downloading from it, is not an option
[13:05] <th0r> punkshui I have several ideas...but hesitate to offer them as I know nothing of mac and don't want to endanger your data
[13:05] <cre8torx> wifi and ubuntu is alittle shaky
[13:05] <misslecommand> i am sure i can manahge what it says to do, but a lit of what files i might need would be of major help
[13:05] <h1st0> misslecommand: what kind of video card do you have?
[13:05] <Arelis> I have transparent panels, but black text. And it's not easy to read. How do i make the text in the panels white?
[13:05] <cre8torx> i have a hp with wifi built in centrino
[13:06] <misc--> h1st0: well here is my problem - I had to recompile a vanila kernel so I could patch it and run it as a virtual server host. I copied my previous .config file, then recompiled with make-kpkg and all was fine, rebooted and no wireless extensions. However the ipw2200 driver is installed, and that's whre I'm stuck =)
[13:06] <th0r> punkshui the easiest is to boot into the livecd, open a terminal, and type 'sudo grub-install'. But I don't guarantee the results
[13:06] <cre8torx> that was a pain in the
[13:06] <h1st0> misc--: you also need ieee80211
[13:06] <punkshui> th0r could i specify where that would install?
[13:06] <h1st0> misslecommand: you have no internet on the machine you are trying to fix?
[13:06] <erpo> misslecommand: Write an email to nvidia and tell them that their closed source driver is making it very hard for you to use your nvidia graphics card.
[13:06] <cre8torx> then how are you here
[13:06] <cre8torx> ?
[13:07] <punkshui> cause if it installed that on my efi partition than my bootloader would be gone for booting os x
[13:07] <cre8torx> you mean browser
[13:07] <cre8torx> im confused
[13:07] <th0r> punkshui no...it has to go in the master boot record or grub won't work, and you are right...your bootloader also needs the mbr. Like I said...I don't know mac so can't be sure how to go about it.
[13:07] <h1st0> misslecommand: if you have net you just need to use the restricted manager and install the proper drivers.
[13:08] <h1st0> misslecommand: if not there is a link floating around about installing packages with out net it puts them together etc...
[13:08] <misc--> h1st0: I'm pretty sure I had that compiled in as a module (well actually I had both ipw2200 and ieee80211 compiled into the kernel instead of a module). I'll double check that though
[13:08] <punkshui> th0r it's just funny that ubuntu was working perfectly before i resized the partition and tried to restore my root partition from this partimage restore image
[13:09] <punkshui> th0r i'm going to boot from the live cd and see if i can see what's going on with the partitions
[13:09] <th0r> punkshui good luck
[13:09] <punkshui> th0r thx
[13:09] <cre8torx> hello
[13:09] <misslecommand> lol
[13:09] <cre8torx> that's better
[13:10] <misslecommand> i finally managed to bypass the permissions thing, and get to the file. what a pain that was
[13:11] <ikonia> misslecommand: it's one command "sudo mv file /new/location"
[13:11] <ikonia> misslecommand: you where told 10 times
[13:11] <misslecommand> i still cant switch drives, but i can access my desktop now
[13:11] <samad909> ikonia: on select and install software, and looks like it is stuck again at installed tomboy 85%
[13:11] <ikonia> misslecommand: 1 command !=pain
[13:11] <ikonia> samad909: patience
[13:11] <misc--> h1st0: one other thing that failed to stop was my sound. It's an Intel 82801FB HD Audio Controller. I guess I just need to make sure that alsa is setup correctly
[13:11] <samad909> ikonia: yup, waiting..
[13:13] <BrianV> Is anyone else having problems with security.ubuntu.org timing out when doing an apt-get?
[13:13] <cre8torx> there's a lot of nothing going on
[13:13] <thedoor> hi people =]
[13:13] <BrianV> hi thedoor
[13:13] <thedoor> how can i see the loaded modules?
[13:13] <ikonia> BrianV someone in here was just having slow connections
[13:13] <erpo> BrianV: From time to time, yes.
[13:13] <ikonia> thedoor: lsmod
[13:13] <misslecommand> i'll be back, with a new report
[13:13] <thedoor> ikonia, thank you =]
[13:13] <nanbudh> for gimp text how do i change the input language to hind or punjabi on my ubuntu box ?
[13:13] <erpo> misslecommand: Seriously. Write to nvidia and complain.
[13:14] <BrianV> ikonia: eh, it's been like this for days; that archive has jsut been timing out
[13:14] <ikonia> BrianV: few people have mentioned poor perfomance
[13:14] <erpo> BrianV: Can you ping it?
[13:14] <cre8torx> what card do you have
[13:14] <cre8torx> ?
[13:14] <misslecommand> bb
[13:14] <BrianV> it pings
[13:14] <cre8torx> misslecommand: what card
[13:14] <thedoor> ikonia, another question, how i can retrieve the loading of a especific module on the boot,i remove him from the /etc/modules but he continues loading whit the sistem
[13:15] <BrianV> just won't accept a connection from apt-get
[13:15] <ikonia> !blacklist | thedoor
[13:15] <ubotu> thedoor: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[13:15] <erpo> BrianV: Can you telnet to it on port 80?
[13:16] <cre8torx> 80's a browser
[13:16] <cre8torx> like fire fox
[13:16] <cre8torx> port 80
[13:16] <BrianV> erpo: I can
[13:16] <erpo> BrianV: Does the line in /etc/apt/sources.list for security.ubuntu.com have an http:// in it?
[13:17] <BrianV> erpo: it accepts the connection no problem
[13:17] <samad909> ikonia: it sure looks stuck to me now, :S
[13:17] <BrianV> erpo: yes, it does
[13:18] <ikonia> samad909: you've said that 2 times
[13:18] <erpo> BrianV: Then something is wrong on your end. apt-get should be trying to connect to security.ubuntu.com on port 80.
[13:18] <ikonia> samad909: BrianV is also complaining about poor repo response times
[13:18] <samad909> ikonia: it cant be repos now can it? its on select and install software and the link to the installing pc isnt up either, well i guess i will wait a bit more
[13:18] <BrianV> erpo: hmmm... this is quite strange. Just started cropping up a day or two ago
[13:18] <erpo> BrianV: Wait, is your problem slow response times or that you're unable to connect?
[13:19] <BrianV> erpo: apt-get won't connect to it at all
[13:19] <ikonia> samad909: try again sthtne
[13:19] <ikonia> then
[13:19] <erpo> BrianV: What error message are you getting exactly.
[13:19] <BrianV> erpo: all the other repos it connects to without any issues
[13:20] <samad909> ikonia: ctrl+alt+del? shall i just install a basic cmd line system and then do a apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[13:20] <erpo> BrianV: So what error message are you getting exactly.
[13:20] <BrianV> erpo: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m6fdbb1e8
[13:20] <thedoor> ikonia, thank you =]
[13:20] <BrianV> erpo: that is the tail end of an apt-get update
[13:20] <ikonia> samad909: installing options should make a difference
[13:21] <BrianV> erpo: as you can see, the rest of the repo package list download fine, except that one
[13:21] <samad909> ikonia: if it was stuck ctrl+alt+del shouldnt work right?
[13:21] <flatron> hallo malam semua....
[13:22] <eyemean> hi i instlled windows and grub is gone how do i reinstall pls?
[13:22] <h1st0> !grub > eyemean,   eyemean Read the private message from ubotu.
[13:22] <eyemean> cheers <h1st0
[13:23] <cre8torx> why do people want to keep windows
[13:23] <ikonia> samad909: no
[13:23] <cre8torx> why keep window's
[13:23] <stib> !guidelines > stib
[13:23] <ikonia> cre8torx: it fits some peoples needs.
[13:23] <cre8torx> i guess
[13:23] <samad909> ikonia: aargh, bad thing is it worked! i will have to start from scratch now!
[13:24] <eyemean> someitmes get better performance with games in windows
[13:24] <h1st0> cre8torx: before they learn.
[13:24] <eyemean> havent been able to get anything decent to work in ubunut
[13:24] <cre8torx> what
[13:24] <stib> ikonia: because the software I use to do my job only works in Windows
[13:24] <cre8torx> like what
[13:24] <ikonia> stib: I have no problem with you using windows.
[13:25] <ikonia> stib: everything has it's place, so I have no issue with that at all
[13:25] <mikebeecham> eyemean : what do you mean by 'decent'?
[13:25] <h1st0> cre8torx: why not, if it suits their needs I say dual boot untill they learn that they can do everything in nix.
[13:25] <samad909> i also have some requirements for xp so i was planning on running a virtualbox inside ubuntu
[13:25] <cre8torx> yeah noobs
[13:25] <stib> ikonia: oops I meant to address that to cre8torx
[13:25] <cre8torx> rookies
[13:25] <mikebeecham> samad909 : depending on what your requirements are...you may struggle with some things
[13:25] <eyemean> well actually everyting, its cause i have ati driver installed, which dosent work to well
[13:25] <_nix_> hello everybody.. I think ubunut is shit
[13:25] <Slart> cre8torx: no need for name-calling
[13:25] <cre8torx> heheh
[13:25] <stib> cre8torx: because the software I use to do my job only works in Windows
[13:26] <cre8torx> like what though
[13:26] <samad909> mikebeecham: as far as it is not gaming i think it should suffice ;)
[13:26] <BrianV> erpo: any further thoughts?
[13:26] <eyemean> im upgrading motherboard etc soon and will have nvidea card so i might be bale to only use ubuntu
[13:26] <ikonia> ! ops | _nix_ regular troll swearing
[13:26] <ubotu> _nix_ regular troll swearing: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[13:26] <Slart> cre8torx: let people decide what they want to use... if they chose windows respect that choice..
[13:26] <cre8torx> maybe ubuntu has software that would fit your needs better but you havent found it
[13:26] <cre8torx> ?
[13:26] <mikebeecham> samad909 : as long as you set it up right..it should be good.  I cannot really use Photoshop that efficiently in Virtualbox, despite it running
[13:27] <mikebeecham> so I keep my windows partition for games and photoshop
[13:27] <mikebeecham> everything runs great in linux
[13:27] <samad909> mikebeecham: i see, but it is nothing garphic related so i think i should be fine
[13:27] <mikebeecham> samad909 : cool
[13:27] <mikebeecham> then go and enjoy
[13:27] <stib> cre8torx: lightwave 3D, a 3d animation and modelling package. It's locked with a dongle and there's no way to get the dongle to work with Wine
[13:27] <mikebeecham> I wont be going back to windows in a hurry for much
[13:27] <erpo> BrianV: Can you visit security.ubuntu.com in a web browser?
[13:27] <samad909> mikebeecham: will if i can get it to install
[13:28] <mikebeecham> samad909:  Virtualbox should be in the repos
[13:28] <cre8torx> ok
[13:28] <h1st0> mikebeecham: I use wine for my games.
[13:28] <samad909> mikebeecham: i meant ubuntu
[13:28] <mikebeecham> VMware will take some doing...i tried them both
[13:28] <gouki> Anyone good with webdesign willing to give me a hand?
[13:28] <BrianV> erpo: yes
[13:28] <mikebeecham> samad909 : ahhh
[13:28] <gerro> how do I use jabber with pidgin?
[13:28] <BrianV> erpo: yep - it gives me a directory listing
[13:28] <emgent> gh
[13:29] <gerro> gouki: what sort of webdesign?
[13:29] <erpo> BrianV: Lame. I don't know how to fix that.
[13:29] <mikebeecham> h1st0 : I only really play DoD Source these days and it lags a bit...I prefer to run it natively in windows
[13:29] <mikebeecham> h1st0 : not all games run in wine, so you're limited
[13:29] <h1st0> mikebeecham: true but most do in cedega but I refuse to pay for that.
[13:30] <parkin> !cedega
[13:30] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[13:30] <mikebeecham> h1st0 : one day we will get cadega functionality....but not yet
[13:30] <cre8torx> thanx ubotu
[13:30] <BrianV> erpo: ok, well, thanks for your input. I'll wait it out, it may just be something strange between here and there
[13:30] <Slart> can't you download cedega source and compile it yourself?
[13:30] <gerro> gouki: do you hear me?
[13:31] <gouki> gerro: Sorry, I'm talking with you on private. Can't really talk about it on open channel
[13:31] <gerro> Slart: probably be easier just adding wine repository
[13:32] <Slart> gerro: well.. if you cedega that wouldn't work.. now would it =)
[13:32] <Oxymoron> if I have to use the noapic command with the livecd, does that mean I will have to use that if I install ubuntu to?
[13:32] <Slart> gerro: hmm.. "if you want cedega" ..
[13:32] <gerro> Slart: actually it would but for legal reasons I wouldn't go that route
[13:32] <mikebeecham> Cedega looks alright, but I dont want to be paying for it
[13:32] <erpo> At least we can be guaranteed that there will be no cedega-like projects in the future.
[13:33] <Oli``> erpo: why not?
[13:33] <Eyemean> wohooo thank you very much, grub is installed and working now, cheers
[13:33] <mame> Hi. Is there a way to install Ubuntu to an SD card so that I can use the SD card to install Ubuntu to non-cd enabled machines?
[13:33] <chad618> hey guys
[13:33] <Slart> gerro: legal reasons? I seem to recall something about the source being available but you have to pay for the binary packages.. I might be wrong though
[13:33] <IdleOne> !install | mame
[13:33] <ubotu> mame: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[13:34] <chad618> whats a good command line based word editor to use?
[13:34] <gerro> gouki: that sounds very very interesting but I can't respond back to your pm I think and I don't really know what your talking about probably over my head
[13:34] <IdleOne> chad618: nano
[13:34] <cre8torx> he's gota have a bot it's physicaly im possible to type that fast
[13:34] <chad618> thanks a bunch
[13:34] <Slart> chad618: emacs, vi, pico, nano
[13:34] <chad618> it was on the tip of my tongue
[13:34] <cre8torx> yeah
[13:34] <erpo> Oli``: wine is GPL'd now. The only reason that transgaming was able to take wine, make modifications, and not give them back to the wine community was that wine wasn't at that time GPL'd.
[13:34] <l3ttuc3> mame: as far as i know, that's not a terribly good idea, flash memory has a fixed lifetime of read/write cycles; as to your question, dunno.
[13:34] <IdleOne> cre8torx: ubotu is a bot yes
[13:34] <cre8torx> yeah
[13:35] <IdleOne> !ubotu | cre8torx
[13:35] <ubotu> cre8torx: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[13:35] <mEck0> hi! I can't get my wireless nic to work (intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG ) in gutsy with gnome. the driver is in use in restricted drivers, but in gnome network manager, I only have "wired- and modem connection". I've tried with my wlan-button on the computer but doesn't work. iwconfig gives med: "lo, no wireless extensions, eth0, no wireless extensions"
[13:35] <cre8torx> ubotu wins
[13:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wins - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:35] <cre8torx> he he
[13:35] <Oxymoron> if I have to use the noapic command with the livecd, does that mean I will have to use that if I install ubuntu to?
[13:35] <cre8torx> ubotu money
[13:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about money - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:35] <cre8torx> he he
[13:35] <IdleOne> !botabuse | cre8torx
[13:35] <ubotu> cre8torx: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[13:36] <Slart> cre8torx: use private messages to abuse the bot
[13:36] <cre8torx> i'll leave the drone alone
[13:36] <cre8torx> that's slick
[13:36] <stib> ubotu art but I know what I like
[13:36] <stib> sorry
[13:37] <IdleOne> ubotu: is not a drone. a drone acts independently after being given a set of commands to follow a bot stores info and re-acts to commands
[13:38] <mikebeecham> so, does cedega run all games?
[13:38] <cre8torx> what about a clonedrone
[13:38] <h1st0> mikebeecham: they have a list on their site
[13:38] <IdleOne> mikebeecham: all except the one you want to play probably. #cedega can help you with that
[13:38] <mikebeecham> IdleOne : that is probably the case :D
[13:38] <mikebeecham> #cedega
[13:38] <Oli``> mikebeecham: look at the Wine AppDB. The support is practically the same
[13:38] <Slart> mikebeecham: last time I checked wine and cedega weren't that different..
[13:39] <zrz> 有人吗
[13:39] <IdleOne> !cn | zrz
[13:39] <ubotu> zrz: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[13:39] <Codenut> I cannot use the su command
[13:39] <Slart> zrz: chinese? korean? japanese?
[13:39] <IdleOne> Codenut: use sudo
[13:40] <Codenut> thanks Idlone
[13:40] <adir1982> how i go to Ububntu Israel ?
[13:40] <JoeLinux> Does anyone know where the Hardy Server Sparc release is?
[13:40] <UBUNTUISLOVED> is it possible to use NTOP to log network DNS query's
[13:40] <Slart> !is
[13:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:40] <cre8torx> ask the bot
[13:40] <Slart> ubuntu isreal
[13:40] <IdleOne> JoeLinux: #ubuntu+1
[13:40] <JoeLinux> Thanks.
[13:40] <Slart> isreal.. shesh..
[13:41] <ikonia> ubotu: ntop doesn't log
[13:41] <ikonia> oops
[13:41] <adir1982> what ?
[13:41] <ikonia> UBUNTUISLOVED: ntop doesn't log
[13:41] <adir1982> #ubuntu-il
[13:41] <ikonia> UBUNTUISLOVED: it's also not a filter
[13:41] <adir1982> :S
[13:41] <UBUNTUISLOVED> yea i meant not log but watch per say
[13:41] <marko-_-> what should i do.. everything worked fine... but yesterday i shut down my computer and today i turn it on and it logs in with low graphics... so i say np i just change back everything but the graphic card won-t be recognezed and when i restart i just start again with low graphic mode... and i have a different language too but it-s changed to mine language.
[13:41] <ikonia> UBUNTUISLOVED: no, it's not a filter
[13:41] <erawfish> UBUNTUISLOVED: use tcpdump
[13:41] <UBUNTUISLOVED> I wrote a program to log it
[13:41] <UBUNTUISLOVED> thanks craw
[13:41] <mikebeecham> Oli`` : so if I can barely run DoD in wine, then the end-result will not be the same in Cedega?
[13:42] <Codenut> I there a better CLUI mail system than MUTT?
[13:42] <ikonia> Codenut: pine ?
[13:43] <mame> how can I tell what is in DEV?
[13:43] <Oli``> mikebeecham: No, probably not that different. DoD = Day of Defeat (Source)?
[13:43] <IdleOne> mikebeecham: check out cedega's website for supported games. they also have a forum and a irc channel. they are better suited to answer questions about this
[13:43] <erpo> mikebeecham: Cedega has some enhancements to wine that they're not sharing.
[13:43] <ikonia> mame: ls -la /dev
[13:43] <Codenut> Silly me.............Of course thank ikonia
[13:43] <mikebeecham> Oli`` : correct
[13:43] <Oli``> mikebeecham: Strange... I get pretty good performance of Source apps through WINE.
[13:44] <mame> ikonia that lists so much. I want to find out what device my SD card is listed as
[13:44] <mikebeecham> Oli``: this is the strange thing indeed...I have a fairly high-end PC and can run the game VERY well at high res on the Windows Partition...but it lags a little through wine
[13:44] <ikonia> mame: ahh, ok, look in /var/log/messages
[13:44] <erUSUL> Codenut: try alpine
[13:44] <Djerkaf> Hi, I thought I'd see today again if anyone has solved the Bios age(1999) fails cutoff(2000) problem?
[13:44] <Codenut> Now I am getting "package Pine has no installation candiate"
[13:45] <Codenut> I will try alpine, Thanks
[13:45] <Amerio> hey guys ...
[13:45] <Amerio> need a good softwares for torrents
[13:45] <mame> LOL I am such a beginner I dont get it
[13:45] <Codenut> Got it guys!!!
[13:46] <erUSUL> !torrent | Amerio
[13:46] <ubotu> Amerio: Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[13:46] <Codenut> I am going to start alpine now.
[13:46] <bullgard4> My Grub's 'kernel' line includes 'vga=ask' and excludes 'splash'. When booting I select 'Mode  1 = 80x50. My 6 consoles will then cover only part of the screen and display only 80x25 characters. Knoppix and X use the whole screen area though. What is the reason for using only part of the screen?
[13:46] <Oli``> steam
[13:46] <Amerio> erUSUL which one is the lighter ?
[13:46] <mikebeecham> Oli`` : steam?
[13:46] <h1st0> mame: do you have an sd card inserted?
[13:47] <mame> I have a USB SanDisk card reader plugged into a USB port and in that is a 1 gig SD card.
[13:47] <erUSUL> Amerio: i haven't tried them all i used deluge (my min client) and transmission
[13:47] <Amerio> erUSUL is it good? do u reccomend it?
[13:47] <h1st0> mame: is it currently mounted?
[13:47] <UBUNTUISLOVED> wireshark did the trick
[13:47] <erUSUL> Amerio: rtorrent and ctorrent are cli based so i guess tthey would be pretty light
[13:47] <Scunizi> bullgard4: maybe its a mode for a much smaller screen... hand held
[13:47] <erUSUL> Amerio: yes i recomend it
[13:47] <cre8torx> wireshark rules
[13:47] <h1st0> mame: if so you can type mount in a terminal and it will show you all mounted devices.
[13:47] <Amerio> ok thanx mate erusul
[13:48] <erUSUL> Amerio: no problem
[13:48] <mame> ohhh ok i will try that
[13:48] <cre8torx> nmap's still the king
[13:48] <erUSUL> cre8torx: apple to orange a sniffer has nothing in common with a port (net) scanner
[13:48] <bullgard4> Scunizi: But I cannot find an information that it is specific for a much smaller screen. Where would one find such an information?
[13:49] <mame> that worked!
[13:50] <cer> bonjour
[13:50] <cre8torx> you confusing me
[13:50] <h1st0> mame: np
[13:50] <cre8torx> please explain
[13:50] <Amerio> is hardy heron available?
[13:50] <cre8torx> packet sniffer
[13:51] <cre8torx> ?
[13:51] <elkbuntu> Amerio, not yet
[13:51] <Amerio> elkbuntu thats weird , chec this out http://deluge-torrent.org/downloads.php
[13:51] <Fenyx> Anyone know much about Dual Gigabit and getting it working in Ubuntu?
[13:52] <_ruben> hardy's available, just not stable
[13:52] <elkbuntu> Amerio, that's an Alpha, it means it's just a test
[13:52] <Amerio> aaah I see
[13:52] <wek> Hallo no audio-output on HDMI from the mythbuntu-FrontEnd. (video output works fine)!
[13:52] <wek> can any body help
[13:52] <erUSUL> !hardy > Amerio
[13:53] <angelus> hi to everybody
[13:54] <cre8torx> ever use etherape
[13:54] <cre8torx> ?
[13:54] <CaBlGuY> !flash
[13:54] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[13:54] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[13:54] <CaBlGuY> !restricted
[13:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[13:55] <h1st0> !botabuse > CaBlGuY,   CaBlGuY Read the private message from ubotu.
[13:56] <borbus> I think tasksel is removing every package from my system
[13:56] <lod__> when i login in GNOME, message display and tell me that X settings are different from GNOME's, how to sinc them?
[13:56] <last_survivor> Hello , i need a command-line dictionary that works like      "dictionary survivor" command finds the meaning of survivor word . Is there any package for that ?
[13:56] <borbus> How can I stop it
[13:56] <infidel> anyone know how i can pull off my pictures from my ipod?
[13:56] <alpaco> I need an open source accounting and warehouse keeping software for my company
[13:56] <CaBlGuY> histo: I don't suppose you would know anything about getting flash to work for a 64 bit install there would ya?
[13:56] <alpaco> as all computers and laptops in my company use solely linux
[13:56] <borbus> I did tasksel remove lamp-server and it is removing everything with no confirmation...
[13:56] <borbus> Which sucks a lot
[13:56] <infidel> !ipod
[13:56] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[13:57] <last_survivor> !dictionary
[13:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dictionary - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:57] <borbus> Why the hell would it do that?
[13:57] <CaBlGuY> !botabuse > h1st0
[13:57] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[13:57] <alpaco> are there any open-source accounting and warehouse keeping software you would suggest?
[13:57] <h1st0> CaBlGuY: I know I was telling you.
[13:57] <alpaco> (for linux)
[13:57] <CaBlGuY> see, I can type to..
[13:57] <h1st0> But aparently you can't read the message
[13:58] <CaBlGuY> gee thasnks.   I appreciate that and like I've NEVER seden that before..
[13:58] <borbus> Well I can't believe it... tasksel has just completely nuked my system
[13:58] <CaBlGuY> *rolls eyes*
[13:58] <Scunizi> alpaco: gnucash is a double entry acc package
[13:58] <borbus> Is there any reason for that?
[13:58] <Arcad3> recommend a free hosting  ...
[13:58] <LjL> last_survivor: mostly depends on whether you want a dictionary that does online lookup, or one with offline databases
[13:58] <last_survivor> LjL: Online if possible
[13:58] <CaBlGuY> h1st0: now, can you help me with a 64 bit install for flashor not?
[13:59] <LjL> last_survivor: then you probably want a dict client (dict is a protocol for dictionary, the GNOME and KDE dictionary applets use it, as far as I know). the simplest console client for that protocol is probably "dict".
[13:59] <LjL> !info dict > last_survivor
[13:59] <CaBlGuY> that's what I thought..
[13:59] <h1st0> CaBlGuY: The links from ubotu that you got earlier tell you how to do it.  But its currently broken just FYI
[14:00] <last_survivor> LjL : I appreciate your help thank you
[14:00] <h1st0> CaBlGuY: and it also tells you that.  THere is a link in the forums that it provides to help you fix it.
[14:00]  * CaBlGuY goes back to reading b4 he was interupted by h1st0
[14:01] <dgjones> alpaco, there's this website with plenty of unix/linux based accountancy packages, whether they're any good and fully open source would be another matter, but maybe worth having a look through to see if anything sounds suitable http://www.findaccountingsoftware.com/software/serveros/browse.aspx?id=17&s=4&c=1&kw=101204816
[14:01] <borbus> So any idea why tasksel has removed every package from my system?
[14:01] <EDinNY> for some reason the symbol that says I need to update ubuntu is on my task bar...when I try it I find it does not need updating...any ideas?
[14:01] <borbus> Because that's a pretty stupid thing to do
[14:02] <dusty-sts> Hey guys I have a problem with thunderbird and firefox when i try to open them it says that there is a window open and to close that first, there are not though, i have even rebooted and it says that?
[14:02] <ibrahim> hello , we have buy HP proliant DL380 G5 . We would like to install ubuntu 7.10 server. We cannot pass partitioning section. Do you have documentation about that model server?
[14:02] <alpaco> jgjones: thanks
[14:02] <h1st0> EDinNY: what version of ubuntu?
[14:02] <EDinNY> h1st0: gutsy
[14:02] <h1st0> EDinNY: you could try updating from terminal to see whats going on.
[14:02] <h1st0> EDinNY: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:02] <EDinNY> h1st0: tried that...there are no updates needed
[14:03] <mikebeecham> dusty-sts: , if you go into your sessions manager, you can end the task.  You will see two files, Firefox and Firefox.bin.  if you close the .bin file, both will disappear...then open up firefox again
[14:03] <EDinNY> oops...yes there seems to be a cups upgrade that was missed...odd
[14:04] <Downix> how is ubuntu server performance wise?  I've only tried it on my SPARC, so curious how it does on a P4
[14:04] <JoeLinux> I have it on some Pentium III's.
[14:04] <JoeLinux> It runs great.
[14:05] <JoeLinux> Don't have exact numbers, sorry.
[14:05] <mikebeecham> Downix : I have a P4 3.2ghz and it runs verys mooth indeed
[14:05] <ffm> How do I swap mousebuttons so that LC is RC etc?
[14:05] <dusty-sts> mikebeecham, there isn't one in there im using ngome btw.
[14:05] <halo> hello
[14:05] <Downix> debating between it, CentOS and Solaris
[14:05] <mikebeecham> dusty-sts : dont know then
[14:05] <ffm> !hi > halp
[14:05] <Downix> I think Solaris is likely overkill
[14:05] <halo> i've a problem with chroot
[14:05] <ffm> !hi > halo
[14:06] <halo> i can't complete the apt upgrade inside the chroot
[14:06] <halo> anyone can help me?
[14:06] <h1st0> !dualboot > VvWolverinevV,   VvWolverinevV Read the private message from ubotu.
[14:07] <h1st0> halo: you should be able to.  What errors are you getting?
[14:07] <halo> i get a mysql error
[14:07] <halo> invoke-rc try to stop it
[14:07] <halo> but 'coz it's not running it can't be stopped :(
[14:08] <EDinNY> dusty-sts: you still here?
[14:08] <halo> and so upgrade ends with an error
[14:08] <dusty-sts> yes
[14:08] <carmelo> ciao
[14:09] <EDinNY> dusty-sts: what version of ubuntu are you using and is your firefox from the version or did you install it yourself
[14:09] <halo> invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "stop" failed.
[14:09] <halo> thats the error
[14:09] <halo> ciao
[14:10] <dusty-sts> EDinNY, Ubuntu gutsty up to date, and from repos. I've just reinstalled removed and purged and still problem exists.
[14:10] <halo> any ideas h1st0 ?
[14:12] <EDinNY> dusty-sts: I have not seen that problem this century, but at one time if you looked in ~/firefox using "ls -l" there used to be a file starting with a "." that indicated that a copy of firefox (mozilla back then) was running.  Delete that file and it works correctly
[14:12] <Sonja> how do i add duration and dimensions in nautilus as columns?
[14:12] <Sonja> for example if an mp3 is 5 minutes long or a video is 320 by 280
[14:12] <borbus> Does anyone know where tasksel would keep its logs so I can see which packages it just removed?
[14:12] <Codenut> I am still trying to figure out how to get irssi going on a second monitor so I can monitor this lrc group while living my life elsewhere without swapping computers
[14:12] <punkshui> th0r you still around?
[14:13] <Codenut> Can I assign a tty to another card?
[14:13] <ikonia> Sonja nautalius is a file manager, nothing more
[14:13] <Codenut> video card that is.
[14:13] <borbus> Codenut, can't you just run X over both and put a terminal with irssi on one?
[14:13] <dusty-sts> EDinNY, no just plugin files and .dat and .ini and .default
[14:13] <halo> sonja: under preferences in a nautilus window
[14:13] <Sonja> ikonia but many file managers have columns that show data like date, filesize, etc. why not also show other info
[14:13] <ikonia> yes, thats possible
[14:13] <ikonia> just not track "time"
[14:13] <halo> if i understood exactly what u mean...
[14:14] <EDinNY> dusty, create a new user, log on as that user, and see if you still have that trouble
[14:14] <robinsjostrom> i need to type "dhclient eth0" everytime i reboot the computer. how can i make it do this automaticly?
[14:14] <punkshui> after resizing my root partition with gparted and then restoring it from an image made in partimage I get this error: GRUB Hard Disk Failure upon boot, and then it hangs
[14:14] <erawfish> robinsjostrom: man interfaces
[14:14] <Sonja> where can i get that add-on for nautilus?
[14:14] <robinsjostrom> erawfish: yea i did that but i cant get it clear
[14:15] <Sonja> there is no option for duration (of an audio file) or dimensions (of an image or video)
[14:15] <lod__> where's the file for gnome's X settings (keyboard, language, etc.)
[14:15] <Codenut> Do you mean I can with the same machine run X and move to the other monitor by keystrokes or F#'ng to the bash of the other monitor?
[14:15] <punkshui> hey erawfish i'm trying to follow what you told me yesterday about reinstalling GRUB and I can't seem to figure it out... the /boot/grub directory is on my root directory
[14:15] <Sonja> sometimes i want to sort using those columns instead of filename or whatever
[14:15] <arthur37854> I have a lexmark 1185 printer scanner, the printer is working but when I use xsane and scan an image its blur... dose the scanner work? I used this page to get the printer working http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714&highlight=z600+lexmark+printer
[14:15] <bkar> punkshui-> when you were saving with partimage, were you in single user mode or in liveCD during backup?
[14:16] <halo> Sonja: i've italian language, but for me it's under Modify->Preferences-> the 3 tab
[14:16] <punkshui> bkar: liveCD
[14:16] <samad909> ikonia: it is 15 mins now and looks like it is stuck at the same point but i will give it another 20 minutes and see
[14:16] <halo> Sonja: ops, sorry, the 4th tab
[14:17] <Sonja> for me it's the 4th tab
[14:17] <Sonja> yes
[14:17] <punkshui> bkar i don't think it's possible to backup the root partition while in single user mode
[14:17] <Sonja> but i see no duration or dimensions option
[14:17] <Sonja> maybe i should use a better file manager
[14:17] <halo> no name, dimension, type, etc... ?
[14:18] <Downix> i think I'll go ubuntu
[14:18] <halo> check the columns you want
[14:18] <Ntemis> hello ppl
[14:18] <Sonja> name, size, yes
[14:18] <Sonja> but dimensions, duration, no
[14:18] <Sonja> it has limited options
[14:19] <Ntemis> i want to install latest scummvm but all i can find is etch package
[14:19] <Ntemis> and i cannot install echt on gutsy
[14:19] <Scunizi> !enter | Sonja
[14:19] <ubotu> Sonja: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:19] <Ntemis> can i?
[14:19] <punkshui> hey erawfish i'm trying to follow what you told me yesterday about reinstalling GRUB and I can't seem to figure it out... the /boot/grub directory is on my root directory
[14:19] <Sonja> sorry, i have adhd so it's easier to press enter a lot
[14:20] <halo> ok, i misunderstood what you wanted :P
[14:20] <Ntemis> here it is
[14:20] <UBUNTUISLOVED> how can i get a computer name from ubuntu? i know the ip on the network but im trying to find more about the host?
[14:20] <Ntemis> http://scummvm.sourceforge.net/downloads.php
[14:20] <LjL> Ntemis: actually, the Etch package is the same version as the Ubuntu package.
[14:20] <Ntemis> dont install
[14:20] <Ntemis> lj;
[14:20] <Ntemis> ljl
[14:20] <Sonja> is there a script for konversation that logs what i say, even if it's many lines with many enters, and every 10 seconds, it releases everything i said, using a period between each line, but putting it all on one line?
[14:20] <LjL> Ntemis: ah, you mean the one on the site.
[14:20] <elkbuntu> flood warning!
[14:20] <Ntemis> yes
[14:20] <LjL> !traffic
[14:20] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[14:21] <Ntemis> what to do ljl?
[14:21] <infidel> A LOT OF HAPPY PEOPLE
[14:21] <Ntemis> i want the latest scuummvm 11
[14:21] <infidel> oops
[14:21] <LjL> !ot > infidel    (infidel, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:21] <LjL> !caps > infidel    (infidel, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:22] <Ntemis> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/scummvm/scummvm_0.11.0-0.etch.1_i386.deb?download
[14:22] <LjL> Ntemis, the Etch package may work, but no guarantees. you might find yourself with broken packages (which can be quite a nuisance).
[14:22] <arthur37854> anybody know about scanners?
[14:22] <LjL> !anyone | arthur37854
[14:22] <ubotu> arthur37854: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[14:22] <Ntemis> dotn install
[14:22] <Ntemis> dont install depent.
[14:22] <punkshui> after resizing my root partition with gparted and then restoring it from an image made in partimage I get this error: GRUB Hard Disk Failure upon boot, and then it hangs
[14:22] <Scunizi> arthur37854: some
[14:22] <LjL> Ntemis: perhaps, if you can settle for version 0.10 instead of 0.11 (since 0.10 is what is in Hardy), then you can request a backport
[14:22] <Ntemis> libflac7 something
[14:22] <LjL> !backports > Ntemis    (Ntemis, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:23] <LjL> !enter | Ntemis
[14:23] <ubotu> Ntemis: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:23] <arthur37854> I have a lexmark 1185 printer scanner, the printer is working but when I use xsane and scan an image its blur... dose the scanner work? I used this page to get the printer working http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714&highlight=z600+lexmark+printer
[14:23] <Ntemis> no i want the latest 0.11
[14:23] <Scunizi> arthur37854: hang on .. let me look for a page.
[14:24] <LjL> Ntemis: is there a specific reason why you need that version?
[14:24] <novato_br> oiiii galeraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[14:25] <novato_br> eaaaaaaiiii ubuntureiros !!!!
[14:25] <erUSUL> !br | novato_br
[14:25] <ubotu> novato_br: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[14:25] <punkshui> after resizing my root partition with gparted and then restoring it from an image made in partimage I get this error: GRUB Hard Disk Failure upon boot, and then it hangs
[14:25] <BuFF> where to save usplash screens by default ?
[14:25] <Ntemis> yes
[14:25] <BuFF> in what dir ?
[14:25] <Scunizi> arthur37854: check out http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html  it shows basic usage..
[14:26] <arthur37854> ok thankyou
[14:26] <stdin> Ntemis: care to say what that reason is?
[14:26] <Ntemis> stdin: of course
[14:27] <LjL> the scummvm site says, "0.11.0 should be directly apt-get'able from Debian unstable (sid)."... however i don't see it in sid, i see 0.10
[14:27] <samad909> i guess ubuntu hates me lol, it wont install! 20mins and still at the same point on a dual core, just read that it has taken upto 3 hours for someone else to pass that point, w00t!
[14:27] <Ntemis> 3 Sierra pre-AGI games for children
[14:27] <Scunizi> arthur37854: no problem.. I've been looking at scanners. I have a microtek right now that is functional only in a winxx vm.  looking at samsung b&w lasar combos..
[14:27] <h1st0> samad909: huh?  what point is it stuck at?
[14:28] <samad909> h1st0: select and install software (installed tomboy 85%)
[14:28] <Ntemis> i want that for my dauther
[14:28] <h1st0> samad909: are you doing a text mode install or are you using the livecd?
[14:28] <LjL> Ntemis, let me attempt to patch that package to work with Gutsy. NO GUARANTEES about it, however.
[14:28] <samad909> h1st0: proof on 3 hours- http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?s=0421912f6f46c5f3ffd25c4554a50152&showtopic=607499&pid=589072756&st=0&#entry589072756
[14:28] <samad909> h1st0: test
[14:28]  * Scunizi smiles as he checks out gOS in a vm
[14:28] <Sonja> when is hoary coming out?
[14:28] <samad909> h1st0: text*
[14:28] <LjL> !hoary > Sonja    (Sonja, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:28] <samad909> Sonja: #ubuntu+a
[14:28] <samad909> Sonja: #ubuntu+1*
[14:28] <Ntemis> thanks ljl
[14:28] <h1st0> samad909: you can hit alt+f4 to see what is going on. and hit alt+f1 to get back
[14:28] <uniqueminds> hello
[14:29] <LjL> no, ubuntu-X. can't count, but X>1
[14:29] <samad909> h1st0: ok let me try
[14:29] <Ntemis> where i can find it after you patch it?
[14:29] <LjL> Ntemis, i'll put it somewhere... let me see if it's actually *possible* to patch it, for starters
[14:29] <uniqueminds> i have a harddisk with problems, is the a program for ubuntu so that i can check my hd ?
[14:30] <erUSUL> uniqueminds: what kind of problems?
[14:30] <samad909> h1st0: omg, its trying to contact repos and timeouts are like 10mins afterwards and the net link isnt up either XD
[14:30] <uniqueminds> well i had xp on this pc
[14:30] <samad909> h1st0: looks like i will have to wait quite a while for this
[14:30] <uniqueminds> but yesterday it crashed
[14:30] <h1st0> samad909: thats the problem. then.
[14:30] <Sonja> oh i meant hardy, not hoary.
[14:30] <Ntemis> why isnt ubuntu instantly supported by scuumvm team and only etch debian is?
[14:30] <h1st0> samad909: or you could install and not set up your network untill afterwards
[14:30] <punkshui> after resizing my root partition with gparted and then restoring it from an image made in partimage I get this error: GRUB Hard Disk Failure upon boot, and then it hangs. please help
[14:30] <LjL> Ntemis: how would we know? ask them.
[14:31] <samad909> h1st0: so just leave the networking configuring, like configure later in install options?
[14:31] <uniqueminds> no i cant go to my harddisks
[14:31] <uniqueminds> (partitions
[14:31] <Ntemis> we don't have any maintainers for these ports currently.
[14:31] <h1st0> samad909: yeah
[14:31] <samad909> h1st0: thanks for the tip mate, next pc i will use it ;)
[14:31] <h1st0> samad909: are you tyring to use wireless
[14:31] <Ntemis> maybe?
[14:31] <Sonja> what are the biggest differences between gutsy and hardy?
[14:31] <samad909> h1st0: nope, on a asus p5gc-mx mobo, ethernet = atheros
[14:32] <LjL> Sonja: ask in #ubuntu+1, and see the !hardy factoid (it has a link with the current differences)
[14:32] <h1st0> samad909: hrm.... are you behind a firewall or something?
[14:32] <h1st0> samad909: thats wierd it shouldn't be timing out like that on the repo.
[14:32] <samad909> h1st0: nope direct access to net via router, and the light is not on in the router, no link
[14:32] <h1st0> !hardy > Sonja,   Sonja Read the private message from ubotu.
[14:33] <samad909> h1st0: it worked fine with xp a few hours back but the link came up only after xp was booted
[14:33] <Sonja> thanks
[14:33] <h1st0> samad909: well then there is a problem with the drivers its trying to use for your net card.
[14:33] <samad909> h1st0: so i hope it comes up when ubuntu boots
[14:33] <LjL> Ntemis: actually, that package installs and starts fine "out of the box". how did you attempt to install it?
[14:33] <h1st0> samad909: if not you will atleast be able to fix it later.
[14:33] <samad909> h1st0: hopefully ;)
[14:34] <h1st0> samad909: I would start the installation over rather than wait.  It should only take like 15-20 minutes to install.
[14:34] <bkar> punkshui-> is your / the first disk? do you happen to have a separate partition for your /home ?
[14:34] <samad909> h1st0: i am going to code windows apps in a vm box
[14:34] <h1st0> samad909: have you checked out virtualbox?
[14:34] <punkshui> bkar yes i have a seperate partition for home.. but i'm doing a dual boot with os x.
[14:34] <samad909> h1st0: yeah i have planned on using that
[14:34] <Ntemis> 2 clicks on it
[14:34] <h1st0> samad909: its pretty nice
[14:34] <samad909> h1st0: ok let me restart install, you got to love virtualbox ;)
[14:35] <punkshui> bkar so i wouldn't say root is my first disk... actually i'm not sure what you mean by first disk?
[14:35] <Ntemis> complains about depentencies libflac7
[14:35] <nerous> hey guys
[14:35] <whatspy> how can I *totally* reset my keyboard setup to the initial settings? is there more to it than dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[14:35] <nerous> can anyone tell my why virtualbox keeps freezing my computer? please
[14:35] <Ntemis> maybe is my repos fault?
[14:35] <LjL> Ntemis: try « sudo apt-get install libflac7 » and then try again
[14:35] <bkar> punkshui-> same thing, i dont know what you meant by root is it /  or /root ?
[14:35] <whatspy> my Alt key doesn't appear to be working at all !
[14:36] <infidel> anyone know how i can pull off pictures from my ipod?
[14:36] <Ntemis> not found
[14:36] <Ntemis> did that already
[14:37] <punkshui> bkar i have one partition: mount point: / it's 6GB (after resize) a second partition: /home it's ~37GB and then I have swap: 700MB and then my EFI Partition and my OS X Partition
[14:37] <Ntemis> are you on gutsy?
[14:37] <sYn_0n3> Good day fellow ubuntuers!!!
[14:37] <bkar> punkshui-> 1st disk would be hd0 in grub hd1 would be 2nd
[14:37] <nerous> hey sYn_0n3
[14:37] <punkshui> bkar well i'm on a laptop so i only have one disk
[14:37] <sYn_0n3> question for guys
[14:37] <LjL> Ntemis: then yes, there is probably something with your repositories. pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:38] <LjL> Ntemis: ah, no, wait... *i* have libflac7 installed from "somewhere" for some reason.
[14:38] <sYn_0n3> im on Gutsy ..i have  a linksys usb wifi adapter to use on my desktop wusb54g v1 i cant get it to work for the life of me
[14:38] <Ntemis> please tell me from whare?
[14:38] <sYn_0n3> ive used ndiswrapper..ndisgtk..no good.. says driver is invalid..on windows which dual boots..it works fine..also lsusb does not show any linksys adapter
[14:38] <Ntemis> where
[14:39] <LjL> Ntemis: i don't know, i don't have the repository (whichever it is) enabled anymore, so i can't see where it was installed from. let me investigate
[14:39] <sYn_0n3> ive uninstalled network manager and gnome network manager..ive installed wicd
[14:39] <Ntemis> please find out!
[14:39] <nerous> sYn_0n3: i would help you but i have no idea
[14:39] <Ntemis> you will be in much deb 2 you
[14:39] <nerous> im still learing
[14:40] <sYn_0n3> i think if i get a newer firmware adapter it will work fine
[14:40] <sYn_0n3> my card is very old..lol
[14:40] <fabry> Hello
[14:40] <LjL> Ntemis: ah, you see, the thing is that Gutsy comes with libflac8. my libflac7 package is probably a leftover from Feisty... which, however, should mean that the Feisty package is pretty Gutsy-compatible (still no guarantees, just reasoning).
[14:41] <bkar> punkshui-> just for kicks, can you pastebin your dd if=/dev/hda of=/home/user1/mbr.backup bs=512 count=1;  xxd mbr.backup  just to get a glimpse of your mbr ?
[14:41] <LjL> Ntemis: the Feisty package can be downloaded at http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/flac/libflac7_1.1.2-5ubuntu2.1_i386.deb
[14:41] <fabry> I have ubuntu 7.10, fglrx (ati x1950 series), Compiz installed and xgl.. Why after 10-15 minutes the system go very slow with xgl at 100% of cpu?
[14:41] <Djerkaf> Hej, Zhouzhou. ^^
[14:42] <simonm> fabry - I've found the same thing... I figured out it was a specific effect I had enabled with ccsm
[14:42] <fabry> I need to restart xgl to go fast for another 15 minutes
[14:42] <zhaozhou> Djerkaf, :D hej!
[14:42] <simonm> try disabling them one by one
[14:44] <Ntemis> ljl: so you come from feisty
[14:44] <fabry> simonm thank you... I try this !
[14:44] <LjL> Ntemis: oh, i think i've upgraded from an Edgy install originally
[14:44] <Ntemis> with ipkg upgrade?
[14:44] <LjL> ipkg?
[14:45] <fabry> Anyone can say me a site with many themes for ubuntu?
[14:45] <LjL> !upgrade | Ntemis
[14:45] <ubotu> Ntemis: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[14:45] <LjL> that's (somewhat) how i did it...
[14:45] <Ntemis> ok sorry
[14:45] <Ntemis> dpkg upfgrade
[14:45] <Ntemis> upgrade
[14:46] <Ntemis> so i need to  do what to install scummvm 11?
[14:46] <djugurtha> irc.sileg.org
[14:46] <LjL> Ntemis, no, that would be "apt-get upgrade", and still, that's not the recommended way to upgrade. anyway...
[14:46] <LjL> Ntemis: you try installing that flac package i gave you, and then you try again your scummvm package.
[14:46] <fabry> 66454 frames in 5.0 seconds = 13282.478 FPS
[14:46] <fabry> 66574 frames in 5.0 seconds = 13300.098 FPS
[14:46] <fabry> is it good ?
[14:47] <erawfish> fabry: glxgears is no benchmark
[14:47] <komputes> does anyone know the command line to make ffmpeg convert an MPEG2 video to RAW avi
[14:47] <fabry> where Can I get a benchmark?
[14:47] <LjL> fabry: try G.L.O.B.S., which however is not available in the repositories
[14:48] <fabry> thank you!
[14:48] <erUSUL> komputes: avi is a container not a video format there is no shuch thing as Raw avi afaics
[14:49] <komputes> erUSUL: then how to I prepare a compressed video for kino
[14:50] <tifine> when i m on text mode in ubuntu why its doesnt show onthe full screen it only shows in the middle of the screen
[14:50] <o00w> how can I search an entire hdd for a specific filetype like jpg "ls *.jpg" will list all jpgs in the directory but how do I search the whole hdd
[14:51] <LjL> o00w: find / -name '*.jpg'
[14:51] <LjL> o00w: find / -iname '*.jpg' <- better
[14:51] <erUSUL> komputes: ffmpeg -i file.mpeg file.avi ?
[14:52] <SleepingSloth> what tools are there for showing system logs on my desktop?
[14:52] <Scunizi> c00w try locate or find
[14:52] <komputes> erUSUL: isn't that converting from MPG to raw?
[14:53] <Scunizi> c00w you might have to sudo updatedb before to catch everything
[14:53] <fabry> simonm, Thank you.. now go fast! I have been disabled reflection
[14:54] <tifine> when i m on text mode in ubuntu why its doesnt show onthe full screen it only shows in the middle of the screen ?
[14:54] <erUSUL> komputes: i spect ffmpeg to just put the original mpeg2 stream inside an avi file without any processing
[14:54] <Bullet_Proof> hi
[14:55] <erUSUL> komputes: so it will not be raw it will be mpeg2
[14:55] <komputes> hmmm, it's definately converting... since it takes much more time than just copying
[14:56] <Ranbee> hi, is there anyone here who uses tiscali UK?
[14:56] <SleepingSloth> can anyone tell me abut a log viewer for gnome?
[14:56] <BuFF> where to save usplash screens (what's the path) ?
[14:57] <samad909> back
[14:57] <poor_man> Hi ppl!
[14:57] <kost_> hello guys.. I experience a problem installing ubuntu 7.10.. I am in the live CD now.. Is anyone willing to listen to my questioN?
[14:57] <samad909> i am on an ethernet network and i cant access the net with ubuntu
[14:57] <erUSUL> komputes: i read on the kino faq that it only reads avi DV files so maybe you need «ffmpeg -i file.mpeg -vformat dv file.avi»
[14:57] <poor_man> anyone can tell how can i unmount a mounted hdd ? ubunut server 7.10
[14:57] <sYn_0n3> whats up kost?
[14:57] <dgjones> kost_, explain your problem, if anybody knows and is around, they'll help
[14:58] <Ranbee> SleepingSloth: maybe gnome-system-log??
[14:58] <poor_man> unmount doens exists
[14:58] <simonm> poor_man sudo umount /mountpoint
[14:58] <sYn_0n3> poor man---umount /dev/drive
[14:58] <samad909> poor_man: its umount not un
[14:58] <poor_man> unmount is not recognized
[14:58] <sYn_0n3> umount**
[14:58] <poor_man> sorry
[14:58] <poor_man> umount
[14:58] <poor_man> ok
[14:59] <poor_man> thanks
[14:59] <samad909> someone help me get my ethernet working in ubuntu
[14:59] <SleepingSloth> Ranbee..... heh
[14:59] <SleepingSloth> Ranbee... thanks
[14:59] <Ranbee> np
[15:00] <kost_> Okay.. I go through the install process (next next etc) and in the partitioning part, I moved the little scroll thing to 280GB so i can leave the main partition with 280GB and the rest goes to linux. (yes, i am a wanna-be dual booter /w Windows XP SP2) As i press next there is an error saying that It cannot resize the partition and then aborting.. Now Everytime i go i can see only the 3 other option (use entire disk. manual etc) any help?
[15:00] <ubuntu__> hi
[15:01] <ubuntu__> i am trying to do  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 seek=6383210
[15:01] <ubuntu__> and i am getting Jan 16 14:50:28 ubuntu kernel: [ 2668.040000] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 6383210
[15:01] <sYn_0n3> kost are you trying to resize an already existant windows partition?
[15:01] <ubuntu__> in /var/log/messages
[15:01] <ubuntu__> what should i do?
[15:02] <kost_> sYn_0n3: Yes, Thats what I think i am doing.
[15:02] <sYn_0n3> kost..u will render your windows driver or partition useless
[15:02] <sYn_0n3> remember windows file system is ntfs
[15:02] <sYn_0n3> which scatters data all over the drive or partition
[15:03] <sYn_0n3> when u resize u could be deleting essential windows drivers or .dll
[15:03] <samad909> help me change my ethernet drivers..its atheros and ubuntu has it as attansic
[15:03] <sYn_0n3> ur best bet would be to start from scratch
[15:03] <mavi-> 15:38 <@kinga> vem kanske tom...
[15:03] <erUSUL> samad909: wifi?
[15:03] <mavi-> ops
[15:03] <sYn_0n3> kost..then ur next question will be..how are you going to dual boot...thru grub..mbr..windows boot?
[15:04] <samad909> erUSUL: ethernet, wired
[15:04] <kost_> yeah >.<
[15:04] <kost_> I got confused.
[15:04] <kost_> Some months ago
[15:04] <soc> hi+
[15:04] <kost_> I could do that.. Have XP and Linux at the same HDD>
[15:04] <soc> is the font lucida free redistributable?
[15:04] <erUSUL> samad909: can you paste the output of 'lspci | grep -i net' on pastebin?
[15:04] <KiD_ChAoS> anyone use fwcutter
[15:04] <samad909> hmm, no net on the pc, wait i ll try something
[15:04] <kost_> !partition
[15:04] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[15:04] <sYn_0n3> yes u can have them on the same drive..but i would not recommend it
[15:05] <kost_> Oo, well I wanna do that because if i enjoy linux I will move everything into linux >.< I dont want to format now and then if i dont like reformat again QQ
[15:06] <samad909> erUSUL: no net on ubuntu pc, it says 02:00.0 Ethernet Controller: attansic tech corp, L2 100mbit eth adapter (rev a0)
[15:06] <KiD_ChAoS> FWCUTTER
[15:06] <KiD_ChAoS> anyone use it?
[15:06] <samad909> erUSUL: I am on a asus p5gc-mx mobo and on windows it showed atheros as the network adapter
[15:07] <soc> does someone know that?
[15:07] <KiD_ChAoS> soc, yes
[15:07] <joe___> How can I tell my network name? I am trying to add a new workstation to a network
[15:07] <kost_> sYn_0n3: Can you please check the private message?? ^_^
[15:08] <erUSUL> samad909: well the wired chip is attlansic as showed by lspci. Paste on paste.ubuntu-nl.org the full lspci output maybe you mobo includes a wireless atheros
[15:08] <soc> KiD_ChAoS: they are freely distributable?
[15:08] <W8TAH> hi folks -- how difficult would it be to convert a working kubuntu install (gusty) to Ubuntu -- im assuming its a matter of switching window managers to gnome - but i dont know what i need to install etc
[15:08] <poor_man> ubuntu server 7.10 by default installs only commandline access, is it possible to install X on it~?
[15:08] <KiD_ChAoS> soc, yes
[15:08] <soc> ah ok
[15:08] <ubuntu__> poor_man: apt-get install gnome?
[15:08] <soc> i thought lucida was proprietary ...
[15:08] <samad909> erUSUL: it does not have a wireless connection, i have read through the mobo manual
[15:08] <Man_of_Wax> W8TAH: sudo apt-get install ubuntu
[15:08] <erUSUL> W8TAH: install 'ubuntu-desktop'
[15:08] <KiD_ChAoS> no soc
[15:09] <sYn_0n3> w8tah...use synaptic..it will find all dependencies
[15:09] <Man_of_Wax> W8TAH: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:09] <poor_man> ubuntu__, there's no X in ubuntu? only gnome ide is availabe?
[15:09] <W8TAH> ok
[15:09] <W8TAH> thanks folks
[15:09] <erUSUL> samad909: then windows was wrong ;P
[15:09] <soc> KiD_ChAoS: where can i download them?
[15:09] <samad909> erUSUL: aight, if windows was wrong why isnt the router light on, its not lit
[15:10] <kost_> sYn_0n3: Can you please see the Private message I sent you?? <<<<<
[15:10] <soc> weird, that they aren't really installed as a standard anywhere
[15:10] <poor_man> ubuntu__: there's no X in ubuntu? only gnome ide is availabe?
[15:10] <samad909> erUSUL: which shows the network link is down, so is there any other driver i could try to use, i am on a 945gc chipset
[15:10] <borbus> Ok... I just removed every package from my system, and then restored them all... without rebooting :D
[15:10] <borbus> apt rules
[15:10] <sYn_0n3> i replied to you@ kost
[15:10] <ubuntu__> poor_man: you need desktop env, no?
[15:10] <sYn_0n3> why would you do that borbus?
[15:10] <borbus> So if anyone else is listening and ever removes every package from their system by accident, don't despair, you can put them all back
[15:11] <erUSUL> samad909: how have you configured the adapters=? network manager? or System>Admin>Net ?
[15:11] <borbus> sYn_0n3, tasksel removed them all
[15:11] <sYn_0n3> ahh sorry
[15:11] <borbus> I have no idea why
[15:11] <Man_of_Wax> how can I set the dvorak keymap in gdm?
[15:11] <alexises> hi
[15:11] <borbus> sYn_0n3, lol, I didn't think I was getting some "fresh start" to make it quicker or something :P
[15:11] <poor_man> ubuntu__: not much, but i was just assuring is possible to install some ide, such as X or gnome
[15:11] <borbus> That would be crazy :P
[15:11] <alexises> i screatch an english we can help for ma english homework
[15:11] <sYn_0n3> lol
[15:11] <alexises> i am french
[15:11] <samad909> erUSUL: adapter = wired/static ip/dns ip
[15:12] <borbus> Silly tasksel
[15:12] <borbus> But awesome vim and apt
[15:12] <alexises> it is not dificult
[15:12] <sYn_0n3> i try to keep my linux box as clean and un fluttered as possible
[15:12] <ubuntu__> poor_man: yeah it should be possible to install
[15:12] <reinis> I've installed ubuntu 7.10, and my wlan adapter shows up in lspci, but doesn't in ifconfig
[15:12] <un_op> il y a un channel francais - #ubuntu-fr :)
[15:12] <sYn_0n3> does anyone here own a ps3?
[15:12] <reinis> do I need to initialize it somehow?
[15:12] <borbus> I processed my dpkg.log with vim to get a list of all the packages that were removed
[15:12] <sYn_0n3> my next endeavor would be to build a custom 128bit os using the ppc ps3 cell processor
[15:13] <erUSUL> samad909: that's what network manager says?
[15:13] <borbus> Then gave the list to apt
[15:13] <un_op> reinis, sounds like you havent got the drivers for it installed
[15:13] <poor_man> ubuntu__: and about X ? is possible or it's simply not possible? i usually associate X with *bsd OS's
[15:13] <sYn_0n3> but it would have to be a source build not anything prepackaged like ubuntu
[15:13] <samad909> system>admin>net says wired connection
[15:13] <un_op> X is what gives you the GUI experience poor_man
[15:13] <samad909> erUSUL: system>admin>net says wired connection
[15:13] <reinis> un_op: but would it be recognized by lspci if I didn't have the drivers?
[15:13] <samad909> erUSUL: shows my hostname, the static ip and the dns ip
[15:13] <reinis> it shows the full name of the device
[15:13] <un_op> reinis, ohh yes
[15:14] <reinis> okay, thanks, so I'll get the drivers
[15:14] <un_op> reinis, lspci just reads info of devices connected upto the PCI bus
[15:14] <poor_man> un_op_ so its correct tell that gnome is over X?
[15:14] <poor_man> un_op: so its correct tell that gnome is over X?
[15:14] <un_op> reinis, the drivers are what connect the device upto the kernel and so on
[15:14] <un_op> poor_man, thats correct
[15:14] <reinis> un_op: is there a list of suported hw for ubuntu 7.10 somewhere?
[15:14] <dgjones> !hcl | reinis
[15:14] <ubotu> reinis: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[15:14] <reinis> thanks
[15:14] <erUSUL> samad909: and you are sure the values are right? you do not use dhcp?
[15:15] <un_op> reinis, well, if you have the make and model read by lspci, its easy just to google for drivers based on that
[15:15] <samad909> erUSUL: yes
[15:15] <poor_man> un_op: ok, so to clean up my confusion, X is a standar in linux OS's and over it gnome or kde can run to improve better interface
[15:15] <erUSUL> samad909: can you paste the output of ifconfig -a
[15:15] <un_op> poor_man, something like that yes
[15:15]  * ggarlic HELLO
[15:16] <sYn_0n3> X is the gui..ie windows
[15:16] <sYn_0n3> you can build a linux box in text and only text
[15:16] <samad909> erUSUL: give me one second i will have to copy from no net machine to pen and come to this machine and up to net
[15:16] <sYn_0n3> ive done that with gentoo years ago
[15:16] <sYn_0n3> but screw 20hr installs
[15:16] <sYn_0n3> hence why i went to ubuntu
[15:17] <un_op> poor_man, X provides windowing information, communication, etc and connect devices like keyboards, mice, etc that Desktop environments like gnome and kde build upon in their own ways
[15:17] <sYn_0n3> only downside i see with ubuntu is the size of the kernel
[15:17] <erUSUL> samad909: ouch! then just check that the interace has the correct ip, net mask etc
[15:17] <sYn_0n3> but if ur good at kernel hacking..rebuild like i did
[15:17] <sYn_0n3> my computer flies...supporting overclocking and all
[15:17] <joe___> Is a common way to install ubuntu networks to mount a server drive at /home ?
[15:17] <bullgard4> My Grub's 'kernel' line includes 'vga=ask' and excludes 'splash'. When booting I select 'Mode  1 = 80x50. My 6 consoles cover only part of the screen and display only 80x25 characters. Knoppix and X use the whole screen area though. What is the reason for using only part of the screen?
[15:17] <samad909> erUSUL: it does, i have administered a few networks befor
[15:17] <samad909> erUSUL: it does, i have administered a few networks before*
[15:18] <un_op> bullgard4, what do you enter as the mode grubs asks you for?
[15:19] <aoupi> right clicking in the firefox totem plugin is odd, you have to click and hold or it selects the first item in the list (Open With "Movie Player") that's kind of annoying, how can I change that so it works like a normal right click menu?
[15:19] <bullgard4> un_op: 2
[15:19] <un_op> bullgard4, sorry, misread -- are you sure thats a valid mode ?
[15:19] <bullgard4> un_op: yes.
[15:19] <erUSUL> samad909: then the only point of faliure is a kernel bug? maybe rmmoding the net driver and modprobing it again can give as some clue? whatch dmesg aoutput (tail -f /var/log/messages)
[15:20] <un_op> bullgard4, don't mind me asking, but why are you using vga=ask .. any specific reason?
[15:20] <strike> is there any way to set the vga= mode to one of the options when you type ask? like 132x50 or something
[15:20] <bullgard4> un_op: All the other setting give the same result: The console area covers only part of the screen.
[15:21] <UBUNTUISLOVED> anyone know anything about Squid 2.6 proxy?
[15:21] <strike> are you using an lcd bullguard4?
[15:21] <reinis> how do I find out what my cdrom is called?
[15:21] <nails> the version 2.6 specifically or squid proxy?
[15:21] <robinsjostrom> whats the command to see a cow in the promt?
[15:21] <erUSUL> reinis: /dev/cdrom*
[15:21] <reinis> erUSUL: I tried that, but it says there's no such dir
[15:22] <UBUNTUISLOVED> nails: well im setting up a reverse proxy for work and protection and i followed the how to but it dont like my config options even from the docs on squid website
[15:22] <t|zz> hi everybody ! is there a way to change the mirror where apt gets its packages from, if it is slow, what can i do?
[15:22] <greentea> for some reason my internet speed slowing down is there a command to restart it ???
[15:22] <reinis> I'll try with a different disc
[15:22] <kost_> !resize
[15:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resize - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:22] <strike> bullguard make sure your console res matches your x res vga=792 or something along those lines
[15:22] <samad909> erUSUL: what modules should i rmmod
[15:22] <osfameron> robinsjostrom: cowsay?
[15:22] <nails> is it starting? are you getting any errors?
[15:22] <jrib> t|zz: system -> adiminstration -> software sources
[15:22] <un_op> bullgard4, have you tried vga=normal?
[15:22] <MagicFab> is anyone in physically Mexico ? I need to do a test for a phone line. /msg if you can help me
[15:23] <UBUNTUISLOVED> nails: one sec i'll pastebin it
[15:23] <t|zz> jrib:  i can't do it, no gui, gimme the textfile where it's in please... and, where to put the serveradress from? thanks
[15:23] <un_op> bullgard4, or vga=274?
[15:23] <kost_> !paste
[15:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:23] <jrib> t|zz: /etc/apt/sources.list  there is a mirror list somewhere on wiki.ubuntu.com.  Let me know if you do not find it
[15:23] <erUSUL> samad909: atl1 or atl2... 'lsmod | grep atl'
[15:24] <samad909> erUSUL: 2
[15:24] <wraund_> .1
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> I have the model and specs for a webcam that is supported out of the box by Gutsy.  Can I get someone to add it to the hardware page? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52141/
[15:24] <wraund_> sorry split screen error
[15:24] <strike> 274 sounds too low for a console resolution
[15:25] <t|zz> jrib:  yes, exactly what i need (wili.ubuntu.com/Mirrors) and sources.list. thanks a lot
[15:25] <un_op> strike, indeed .. but if that works then we can try and find out what goes wrong with a higher resolution
[15:26] <samad909> erUSUL: looks like i need a patch http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2790439 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/77725
[15:26] <strike> i meant try 769 i think that is 640x400 about the lowest you can set
[15:27] <joe___> How do I share users within a ubuntu network?
[15:27] <reinis> okay, so it turns out that 7.10 is supposed to have the RT61 drivers for my card out of the box, but the card doesn't show up in ifconfig, what do I do?
[15:27] <samad909> erUSUL: can you help me out with the patching?
[15:27] <Jack_Sparrow> strike: Here is a chart for console res..  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215566
[15:27] <strike> i have problems with my monitor reverting to 320x200 after switching out of x
[15:27] <bullgard4> un_op: with vga=normal it is the same.
[15:27] <strike> it works fine for 2 seconds while booting up then it just scatters likes all over the place
[15:28] <strike> vga=normal is the default but not necessarily the lowest setting
[15:28] <andreus> hello. hello, has anyone ever had a problem upgrading to gutsy from fawn. the "not enough space on /boot" problem...?
[15:28] <un_op> bullgard4, how about vga=0x315? that should be 1024x768 in 24 bit mode
[15:28] <reinis> what do I do if a wireless card I know 7.10 has drivers for doesn't show up in ifconfig?
[15:29] <simonm> iwconfig
[15:29] <sYn_0n3> iwconfig wlan0
[15:29] <reinis> ah, duh
[15:29] <sYn_0n3> or whichever ur wifi card is
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> andreus: how much stuff do you have in var/cache/apt/archives ?
[15:29] <reinis> I'm just used to bsd
[15:29] <un_op> reinis, does ifconfig -a show the interface?
[15:29] <erUSUL> samad909: i have read the launchd page and the bug is for older releases in gutsy the driver is present /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/net/atl2/atl2.ko
[15:30] <SpookyET> How do you take a screenshot when a menu is activated? PrintScreen won't work.
[15:30] <brobostigon> loot it up in dmesg too, it may show up there, and tell you what your wifi has been assigned too.
[15:30] <reinis> I see wlan0 there, un_op
[15:30] <samad909> erUSUL: hmm, now i really think ubuntu hates me XD, anyway what next
[15:30] <un_op> reinis, what does sudo ifup wlan0 do?
[15:30] <andreus> Jack_Sparrow: i've just installed a clean fawn. barely after install made it's first update. i've assigned 64mb for /boot
[15:30] <greentea> The "File Browser" froze what should i do?
[15:30] <Slart> Does anyone know if there is a script that's run when I lock my screen in gnome.. or is the command configurable..  I'd like to shut down my external speakers when I lock the screen to keep weird computer noises won't wake the wife up in the middle of the night =)
[15:30] <reinis> un_op: it says "ignoring unknown interface wlan0"
[15:31] <simonm> lspci?  or dmesg?
[15:31] <fabry> What is a good software for divx to dvd converter?
[15:31] <un_op> reinis, hmm .. ok .. does the network-manager-applet show the interface?
[15:31] <Slart> hmm.. "keep weird computer noises from waking the wife up...." can't type proper sentences anymore.. need coffee
[15:31] <reinis> simonm: was that to me?
[15:31] <Jack_Sparrow> andreus: Sorry, I dont know the minimum size for a boot partition.
[15:31] <andreus> Jack_Sparrow: where's what i've got in /var/cache/apt/archives one line (bitchx_1%3a1.1-4ubuntu2.1_i386.deb  gpart_0.1h-4.1_i386.deb  lock  partial)
[15:31] <erUSUL> samad909: do 'tail -f /var/log/messages' then on other terminal 'sudo modprobe -r atl2' then 'sudo modprobe atl2'
[15:31] <SpookyET> Gimmie rocks. It's the best menu ever. Better than SLED, and Mint's menu.
[15:31] <reinis> un_op: I don't have X here
[15:31] <reinis> it's ubuntu-server
[15:31] <erUSUL> samad909: what if something abnormal shows on the messages log
[15:31] <strike> mplayer can do that
[15:32] <strike> mencoder otherwise
[15:32] <bullgard4> un_op: with vga=normal there do not appear any Consoles at all.
[15:32] <un_op> reinis, right, in that case you might need to add an entry for wlan0 in your /etc/network/interface file
[15:32] <simonm> reinis - yes.. sorry
[15:32] <reinis> simonm: it shows up in lspci
[15:32] <strike> your default setting is too high try it with whatever vga= 640 x 480 is
[15:32] <samad909> erUSUL: ok i will do the modprobe and brb with the results
[15:32] <bullgard4> un_op: err! With vga=274 there do not appear any Consoles at all.
[15:32] <un_op> reinis, if you have entries for eth[01] in there .. just emulate the entries for wlan0 .. see what happens
[15:32] <reinis> /etc/network/interface doesn't exist
[15:32] <simonm> reinis: ok... is there an appropriate driver in lsmod?
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> andreus: a quick google sees a recomended 100-200
[15:33] <UBUNTUISLOVED> nails: http://pastebin.org/15672
[15:33] <un_op> bullgard4, hmm ..  strange -- how about vga=0x313 ?
[15:33] <samad909> erUSUL: i will copy via flash drive and upload to pastebin, i think you have to see this
[15:33] <UBUNTUISLOVED> nails: no real errors but fails to startup squid
[15:33] <komputes> Does anyone know how to get into Video Edit Mode in Blender?
[15:33] <reinis> simonm: I can't find it in lsmod
[15:34] <last_survivor> I installed a application with apt-get command lets say X ,  it installed Y Z libs for it to work .      Then after a time i uninstalled X with apt-get remove  but  it doesnt uninstall that libraries , how can i search my system and uninstall unneeded libs with apt-get ? ?
[15:34] <simonm> reinis: then you need to find / compile / apt-get install the driver
[15:34] <reinis> simonm: it's supposed to come with 7.10, though
[15:34] <jrib> last_survivor: apt-get autoremove
[15:34] <reinis> the driver is RT61
[15:34] <last_survivor> ty
[15:34] <simonm> reinis: sudo modprobe RT61
[15:35] <simonm> reinis: or might be rt61
[15:35] <strike> VESA framebuffer console @ 640x480x32k vga=784
[15:35] <joe___> Is there a doc for not-so-thin clients?
[15:35] <reinis> simonm: says not found
[15:35] <andreus> Jack_Sparrow: yes, just looking for a way to change the size without reinstalling.
[15:36] <simonm> reinis: just googled it:  download this: http://www.ralinktech.com/drivers/Linux/2005_1230_RT61_Linux_STA_Drv<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz
[15:36] <andreus> Jack_Sparrow: is it possible at all to rearrange these two partitions.. i'd take a slight piece off my main or maybe swap and put it to /boot
[15:36] <strike> better VESA framebuffer console @ 640x480x256 vga=769
[15:36] <g0rb3hy> Does anyone have a nice solution to download (recursively) an entire directory from an apache vfolder? can i do something like wget http://www.path.to.vfolder/* ?
[15:36] <simonm> reinis: or, read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132980
[15:36] <reinis> simonm: I found the thread too, but the link is dead, 404
[15:36] <un_op> reinis, you can create one then -- from a root shell -  echo -ne "auto wlan0\niface wlan0 inet dhcp" >> /etc/network/interfaces
[15:36] <simonm> oh
[15:36] <simonm> hehe
[15:36] <samad909> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52142/
[15:36] <simonm> so you know how to use google too?  hehe
[15:36] <UBUNTUISLOVED> nails: found errors http://pastebin.org/15673
[15:36] <nails> UBUNTUISLOVED: what command are you using to start squid?
[15:36] <simonm> it's not just me
[15:36] <Jack_Sparrow> andreus: You could probably resize it with gparted livecd... but be aware of the potential changes to uuid's that may need to be fixed prior to getting back into the installed OS
[15:37] <bullgard4> un_op: err! With vga=0x315 there do not appear any Consoles at all but X is ok.
[15:37] <UBUNTUISLOVED> nails: tried both squid -z which seems to work
[15:37] <joe___> andreus -- isn't there an option in the Ubuntu CD to slide partition sizes?
[15:37] <strike> wget /?
[15:37] <reinis> that's why I'm asking, the thread ends with someone saying that the link is dead and someone replying that the driver should be included by default
[15:37] <bullgard4> un_op: With vga=0x315 there do not appear any Consoles at all but X is ok.
[15:37] <UBUNTUISLOVED> nails: and also /etc/init.d/squid
[15:37] <simonm> reinis: http://www.ralinktech.com.tw/data/drivers/2007_1210_RT61_Linux_STA_v<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.bz2
[15:37] <fabry> What is a good software for divx to dvd converter?
[15:37] <reinis> simonm: ty!
[15:37] <strike> try 310
[15:37] <strike> mencoder
[15:37] <simonm> reinis: np... good luck.
[15:38] <reinis> I wonder why the driver isn't included in ubuntu-server, heh
[15:38] <samad909> erUSUL: did you take a look at that?
[15:38] <andreus> Jack_Sparrow: perhaps i should reinstall the whole. i am not very experienced with linux, i've allocated ~2.5-3gb for swap and 64megs for /boot.. can you give me a quick suggestion about swap and boot memory?
[15:38] <simonm> 64mb is a bit small for boot
[15:38] <andreus> joe___: during the installation process?
[15:38] <simonm> I use 256MB
[15:38] <reinis> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[15:38] <un_op> bullgard4, hmm, maybe the setting is too high .. how about vga=0x303 -- thats 800x600 in 8bit mode
[15:39] <brobostigon> reinis: well i thin kservers arent normally connected wirelessly.
[15:39] <reinis> oops, wrong window :)
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> andreus: How much ram do you have and what size hard drive are you working with and is this the only OS on the system
[15:39] <joe___> andreus -- yes, or after.
[15:39] <samad909> erUSUL: ?
[15:39] <reinis> brobostigon: private ones might be
[15:39] <nails> UBUNTUISLOVED: have you tried starting it with -N -d which will turn off dameon mode and show the log to stdout
[15:39] <joe___> andreus -- I know I've done this within Ubuntu.
[15:40] <erUSUL> samad909: yes it seems pretty normal msg... have you checked the cables? that's the msg (ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): ethn: link is not ready) i get from my twe eth cards becouse they are not plugged to any eth cable
[15:40] <brobostigon> reinis: every server i have ever seen has alsways been wired, i have never seen a server thats wireless.
[15:40] <un_op> brobostigon, it's not a wise thing to do by connecting servers up wirelessly --
[15:40] <samad909> erUSUL: i will check them again, one second
[15:40] <un_op> brobostigon, you'd hardly guarantee 99%+ uptime with a wireless connection
[15:40] <brobostigon> un_op: i know
[15:41] <andreus> Jack_Sparrow: 2gb ram, 400gb hdd. i've switched from windows just today, just half an hour ago. left ~360gb from an old system, ntfs.. my stockpile.. about 29gb for linux system, 2.5-3gb for swap and 64mb for boot
[15:41] <un_op> brobostigon, my apologies, i misread :)
[15:41] <sYn_0n3> i have a wireless server
[15:41] <samad909> erUSUL: it is plugged in, the light that is on with the nic is not on though
[15:41] <reinis> heh, I'm setting up a home server where the speed doesn't matter
[15:41] <sYn_0n3> just because where i live there is no hardwire connection so im forced to use that
[15:41] <un_op> reinis, its not a question about speed -- it's about uptime
[15:41] <reinis> the wlan is much faster than wan anyway and the wireless could never get saturated
[15:41] <reinis> un_op: so what about the uptime?
[15:42] <erUSUL> samad909: «sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart» and watch the log
[15:42] <bullgard4> un_op: With vga=0x313 there do not appear any Consoles at all but X is ok.
[15:42] <brobostigon> wireless can be unreliable compared t wired,uptime wise
[15:42] <reinis> my wireless is quite stable
[15:42] <un_op> reinis, wireless networks arent as reliable as wired ones ...
[15:42] <samad909> erUSUL: give me one minute, need to swap files from flash disk
[15:42] <reinis> I've had no such problems with mine
[15:43] <sYn_0n3> un_op: truth be told!!!
[15:43] <UBUNTUISLOVED> nails: trying now
[15:43] <sYn_0n3> i would kill for a wired connection
[15:43] <Jack_Sparrow> andreus: Not sure if you still have windows on there or not?  DO you have an extended partition setup with logicals in it?
[15:43] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[15:43] <nails> UBUNTUISLOVED: Are you running this as root or a user like squid?
[15:43] <CarlFK> how do I make calls to land lines with Ekija (or any SIP VoIP phone)
[15:43] <andreus> Jack_Sparrow: no, windows's done. i've placed ubuntu over windows partition. deleted an old one and rearranged
[15:44] <samad909> erUSUL: Reconf network interfaces; RTNETLINK answers: no such process; SIOCDELRT: No such process
[15:44] <brobostigon> youu suddenly get a very bad thunder storm, loads of electrical interference, and then wireless/wifi interference, or the wet dog syndrome.
[15:44] <un_op> reinis, well, i have a headless server at home that 'used' to be connected up wirelessly .. i quickly found out i had to keep logging in at the console to reset the wireless interface .. in then end i just chose plain old ethernet and i've never had to do anything like it since
[15:44] <CarlFK> i know I need to pay, but I can't figure out who to pay
[15:44] <samad909> erUSUL: nothing on messages
[15:44] <gonzi> hi
[15:44] <UBUNTUISLOVED> nails: your the best
[15:44] <UBUNTUISLOVED> nails: urlParse: Illegal character in hostname
[15:44] <erUSUL> samad909: sudo ifup eth0 ?
[15:44] <UBUNTUISLOVED> nails: working now
[15:44] <simonm> with 802.11n a wireless server is more of an option now
[15:44] <un_op> bullgard4, well, i'm following the modes as described here -- http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html  -- maybe its a matter of trial and error to see which one works for you
[15:44] <samad909> erUSUL: ifup: interface eth0 already conf
[15:45] <nails> UBUNTOISLOVED: good luck
[15:45] <brobostigon> simonm: but it still cant guarentee 99% uptime,
[15:45] <evelyette> hey
[15:45] <borbus> When I install the lamp-server package, apache isn't configured to handle files called *..php properly.. is that a known bug or something?
[15:45] <DSOM> Quick question....what is the best way to determine if I have 7.10 i386 or AMD64 installed on a box?
[15:45] <reinis> un_op: then it's your OS's fault if it's unstable
[15:45] <evelyette> is there a list of programs that ubuntu livedcd includes by default?
[15:45] <poor_man> if i want create an rsync account i should create a new system user?
[15:45] <erUSUL> samad909: sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[15:45] <white_eagle> can I somehow install ubuntu again, but keep my home/ directory?
[15:46] <un_op> reinis, it runs freebsd 6 .. i'd hardly call it unstable
[15:46] <un_op> :)
[15:46] <reinis> hmm
[15:46] <exoticmoya> can someone help me here by reviewing mt resume please
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> andreus: Do you have an extended partition setup with logicals in it?
[15:46] <white_eagle> thus setting all to default
[15:46] <simonm> DSOM - uname -a
[15:46] <wassy121> poor_man: rsync is simply a program.  You need a system user to be able to run the rsync program from/to.
[15:46] <un_op> reinis, it's wireless thats unstable thats all -- anyone will tell you, no matter how good
[15:46] <samad909> erUSUL: in messages: last line in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52142/
[15:47] <DSOM> simonm - Thanks.
[15:47] <simonm> I have to say, I don't agree with the "wireless = unstable" thing...
[15:47] <reinis> un_op: then how come I don't have such problems when using any laptops?
[15:47] <brobostigon> un_op: well sid.
[15:47] <fabry> strike, mencoder is for me? to convert divx to dvd?
[15:47] <white_eagle> can I somehow install ubuntu again, but keep my home/ directory? thus setting everything do default but not erasing my data?
[15:47] <poor_man> wassy121: ok, and i can create an account that wont be able to login  via ssh or console?
[15:47] <andreus> Jack_Sparrow: not sure, ntfs left untouched and i've only marked "/" partition as primary. rest swap and boot were marked a logical
[15:47] <brobostigon> reinis: because you get interference on wifi
[15:47] <Duke_Fluke> white_eagle, did you place /home on its own partition?
[15:47] <white_eagle> no
[15:47] <wassy121> white_eagle: Not easily.  Why do you need to re-install ubuntu?
[15:48] <white_eagle> I messed up with the ati drivers
[15:48] <strike> just specify the output format you want not sure about splitting for dvd man pages and google is your friend
[15:48] <erUSUL> samad909: so no changes... i'm puzzled i dunno why the network is not working... maybe you can comment you problems on the launchpad thread
[15:48] <erUSUL> ?
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> andreus: Are you in ubuntu now?  sudo fdisk -l      please put it in the pasetbin and provide a link.. Do Not paste into the channel
[15:48] <wassy121> poor_man: In order to copy things across the network, the user needs to be able to authenticate via SSH.
[15:48] <samad909> erUSUL: now this is bad, so i need to switch back to xp for now :S
[15:48] <un_op> my wireless just dropped eh :)
[15:48] <erUSUL> samad909: sorry :( maybe someone else has the answer here
[15:48] <white_eagle> wassy121, I messed up the ati drivers
[15:48] <strike> i use 720x576 for pal dvds ntsc is different
[15:49] <erUSUL> samad909: i have to run now; bye
[15:49] <poor_man> wassy121: ok, i see, but i can have an account without home dir and shell access?
[15:49] <wassy121> white_eagle: There is no reason that is not recoverable.  Shouldn't need a full reinstall.
[15:49] <samad909> erUSUL: alright i will ask someone, thanks for your time
[15:49] <un_op> poor_man, to have shell access, you need a home dir :)
[15:49] <bullgard4> un_op: With vga=0x303 there do not appear any Consoles at all but X is ok. I am fed up. I do not make any trials with you just in order to obtain an error. A strategy is needed, not a trial.
[15:49] <samad909> can someone help me get my network connection up
[15:49] <brobostigon> !ask | samad909
[15:49] <ubotu> samad909: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:49] <wassy121> poor_man: Yes, you will need to set up public/private SSH keys for the user, and disable the password.
[15:50] <samad909> brobostigon: you didnt read properly
[15:50] <un_op> bullgard4, man suit yourself, i go out of my way to help you while no one else will .. i dont get paid for this you know
[15:50] <samad909> brobostigon: i listed i wanted to get my network connection working
[15:50] <bullgard4> un_op: Right. Thank you for trying.
[15:50] <brobostigon> samad909: whats the problem with your networking??
[15:50] <un_op> bullgard4, you're most welcome
[15:50] <samad909> brobostigon: the link is not up
[15:50] <wassy121> white_eagle: Worst case scenario, you can set the video driver to "vesa" in /etc/X11/Xorg.conf in order to get 640x480 graphics.
[15:51] <wassy121> white_eagle that should at least allow you to run firefox, etc and get back on your feet.
[15:51] <Duke_Fluke> samad909: is your system a dual boot?
[15:51] <white_eagle> wassy121: let me tell you how: I first installed the repos drivers, and then I don't know what came up on me, I installed the official drivers from ati.com, and after this I couldn't launch any app. that wants 3d rendering like: celestia, stellarium etc. my computer just logs of and I have to log back in,
[15:51] <Gearsmith> How do you hide the desktop text?
[15:51] <brobostigon> samad909: sudo ifup networkinterface(example /dev/eth0)
[15:51] <andreus> Jack_Sparrow: http://pastebin.com/m2a1e6d48
[15:51] <samad909> Duke_Fluke: sad thing is I wish I had done that
[15:51] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[15:51] <white_eagle> only compiz works
[15:51] <mannytu> !reinstall
[15:51] <ubotu> To renew the configuration of a package when installing, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>.  WARNING: This is dangerous, don't do this with core packages
[15:51] <samad909> brobostigon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52142/
[15:52] <Gearsmith> How do you hide the desktop text?
[15:52] <white_eagle> wassy121, thats why, I want those apps back!
[15:53] <Duke_Fluke> samad909, have you tried setting a static ip? do you have a router?
[15:53] <Gearsmith> How do you hide the desktop text?
[15:53] <strike> what i really want to know is if i can use a better driver than vesafb and which ones to try
[15:53] <white_eagle> !repeat | Gearsmith
[15:53] <ubotu> Gearsmith: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait.   Have you tried reverting back to the ubuntu-shipped drivers, and uninstalling all your updated and 3rd party drivers?
[15:53] <samad909> Duke_Fluke: static or dhcp the link does not go up..also have a look at my /var/log/messages > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52142/
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> andreus: Offhand I would say you could steal a bit from swap, fix any uuid's issues and be ok..
[15:53] <Gearsmith> How do you hide the desktop text?
[15:53] <white_eagle> wassy121, I don't know how to erase the ati.com drivers
[15:54] <wassy121> white_eagle: If you still have the installation directory, it may allow for a 'make uninstall'.
[15:54] <jrib> Gearsmith: what desktop text?
[15:54] <white_eagle> I asked in here so many times, but noone knew
[15:54] <Duke_Fluke> samad909, is this a wired or wireless nic?
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Gearsmith: Please hold off on repeating...  Please also explain your question a bit more..
[15:54] <samad909> Duke_Fluke: wired
[15:54] <Gearsmith> THe text under the icons.
[15:54] <kaktuskatta> Hi! After upgrading to Gusty from Feisty my MX510 mouse doesn't work right any longer. I'm having problems with the buttons that are all messed up....I
[15:54] <antipop> does anybody uses program antivir?
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[15:54] <x0rx0r> hello does anyone here run ubuntu on a sony vaio vgn series laptop ?
[15:55] <x0rx0r> (or any sony vaio with nvidia on it:P)
[15:55] <kaktuskatta> I've followed the guide posted on http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=485175&highlight=MX510, but it didn't work out for me
[15:55] <strike> you can set your drivers back to VESA in xorg.conf no need to uninstall them yet
[15:55] <kaktuskatta> Anyone got a clue?
[15:55] <redl> re
[15:55] <Gearsmith> I wanna hide the text underneath the icons on my desktop.
[15:55] <bazhang> x0rx0r: what is your question--please be precise
[15:55] <white_eagle> wassy121, but the irony is, my cd-rom is broken, I have to rpeair it
[15:55] <andreus> Jack_Sparrow: are you aware of any tools with GUI other than gpart?
[15:55] <brobostigon> x0rx0r: i do have ubuntu on an ibook g3.
[15:55] <x0rx0r> well i
[15:55] <wassy121> white_eagle: what does that have to do with your ATI driver problem?
[15:55] <Duke_Fluke> samad909, what type of nic do is it?
[15:56] <x0rx0r> 'm having trouble with brightness buttons
[15:56] <SpookyET> Gimmie: rocks. It's so much better than SLED. http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/Gimmie%20Linux.png (Linux) http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/Gimmie%20Library.png (Library) http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/Gimmie%20People.png (People) http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/Gimmie%20Programs.png (Programs)
[15:56] <wassy121> white_eagle: Oh, because you can't re-install anyway.  I get it.
[15:56] <x0rx0r> got it to dim the display with smartdimmer
[15:56] <strike> cfdisk is the easiest to use no gui but its dead simple
[15:56] <samad909> Duke_Fluke: it was listed as atheros in xp, ubuntu shows it as attansic
[15:56] <x0rx0r> but how can i bind it to the + - brightness buttons
[15:56] <Jack_Sparrow> andreus: For that type of work, I always use gparted livecd not gparted from ubuntu livecd.  and I use a version of gparted that is 4 or 5 revisions back from the current one.  If that helps
[15:56] <DarthSOup> irc://irc.synirc.net
[15:56] <Gearsmith> Nevermind, I found out how to hide the icon text. Thanks a lot for nothing guys.
[15:57] <jrib> Gearsmith: how?
[15:57] <amorphous_> I'm struggling to ssh into a machine... could anyone ping <IP_ADDRESS> for me please?
[15:57] <Duke_Fluke> samad909, can you please pastebin 'lspci -v"?
[15:57] <Gearsmith> RIght click it and replace the name with spaces.
[15:57] <bazhang> Gearsmith: care to share the info?
[15:57] <jrib> Gearsmith: I guess that works
[15:57] <danbhfive> Gearsmith: there is another way i think
[15:57] <samad909> Duke_Fluke: give me one minute, need to transfer the file via a flashdisk here and put on pastebin
[15:57] <ballongen> boll
[15:57] <mannytu> Gearsmith: how did you hide your text?
[15:57] <Duke_Fluke> samad909, np
[15:58] <redl> i wanna know, can I use new studing course for payed lessons?
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !attitude > Gearsmith
[15:58] <Gearsmith> RIght click it, properties, then replace the name with spaces.
[15:58] <wassy121> amorphous_: I get no response from ping on my side.  Seems to be down.
[15:58] <LjL> mode #ubuntu +e<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:58] <andreus> Jack_Sparrow: i think i'll spend another 15 minutes reinstalling rather than break something. thank you a great ton
[15:59] <mannytu> I would think you could turn it off? anyone, I am new too...
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> andreus: May I suggest you create a 10gig / and a 20 gig /home
[15:59] <aoupi> hi, I get some 'WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!' when installing stuff, how do I add the proper keys?
[16:00] <samad909> Duke_Fluke: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52144/
[16:00] <aoupi> oh n/m, apt-get update fixed everything
[16:00] <andreus> Jack_Sparrow: seems fair. last time i used linux was mandrake 4 many years ago, not aware of present needs. will do that, thanks again brb
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[16:01] <chazco> Any idea why my USB keyboard wont work in Ubuntu (but works in the BIOS) when connected to the motherboard, but works fine when connected to a PCI slot?
[16:01] <chazco> Both generate the same dmesg output (different numbers, but otherwise)... and sometimes it _does_ work on the other ports...
[16:01] <Duke_Fluke> samad909, has this nic ever worked before(in Ubuntu)?
[16:01] <htmljunkie> hello all
[16:01] <htmljunkie> I need a program for .rar files to expand, anyone know a good one?
[16:02] <LjL> !rar > htmljunkie    (htmljunkie, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:02] <Marce_> Hello, i have a question about internet access in a script in /etc/rc.local. I run a command that needs internet access and it doesnt works, any ideas?
[16:02] <danbhfive> unrar?
[16:02] <brobostigon> htmljunkie: file roller
[16:02] <samad909> Duke_Fluke: never tested, but I saw couple of thread in forums about this not working in 7.04 and someone told me it was fixed in 7.10
[16:02] <amorphous_> Aha! thanks wassy121  - had the port setting wrong on ssh... My life is simple again ;)
[16:02] <amorphous_> thank you, wassy121
[16:02] <SubFreeze> Hello!   I have Nvidia-GLX setup on Ubuntu 7.10 running on 2 monitors.  Instead of TwinView I decided to use a Separate X Screen (2 different X screens).  My problem is with Synergy Client, I can run it and connect to multiple machines, but I can't get my mouse across both of these 2 screens (the Separate X Screens). Has anyone run into this before, and how would I solve it so I can use synergy on both screens?
[16:03] <LjL> Marce_: perhaps it's executed before network manager, or whatever is it, kicks in to set up your connection. ugly hacky fix that comes first to my mind is, add a "sleep 60" (or some number) before the command, so that its execution is delayed a little.
[16:03] <Marce_> LjL: i'll try it, brb
[16:04] <wassy121> SubFreeze: I believe that is a question best asked of the synergy folks.  I am sure you can use synergy on the two X screens, though.
[16:04] <Duke_Fluke> samad909, found this no solution though :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4037138
[16:04] <samad909> Duke_Fluke: ok thanks for your time, I will check it out otherwise my only option is to switch back :(
[16:04] <LjL> Marce_: or you could make a proper script in /etc/init.d that is set up to depend on /etc/init.d/networking... however it's not networking that starts network-manager, as far as i can see, so i'm not even sure if that would work. it would be a cleaner solution for sure if it works
[16:05] <SubFreeze> wassy121: I changed my configuration to twinview and have it working.  I'll get in touch with them and see if there is an easy solution.
[16:05] <Duke_Fluke> samad909, good luck sorry
[16:06] <samad909> Duke_Fluke: thanks, np
[16:06] <Marce_> LjL, you mean adding my shell script in /etc/init.d and add it in /etc/init.d/networking will be fine?
[16:07] <rosa> .
[16:07] <htmljunkie> hey when you burn an ISO in ubuntu do you use create from image or file?
[16:08] <htmljunkie> !burn dvd
[16:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about burn dvd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:08] <pike_> Marce_: sudo updaterc.d -f scriptname defaults or something like that if you want it to setu the symlinks for ya i think
[16:08] <pike_> Marce_: update-rc.d
[16:08] <wassy121> htmljunkie: create from image.
[16:08] <LjL> Marce_: no, it's more complicated than that. you should *not* modify /etc/init.d/networking. however, look at the first part of /etc/init.d/networking: you will see that it lists *other* scripts that it depends on (i.e. which must be executed *before* that script is). you could make your own script that states that it depends on networking
[16:08] <htmljunkie> ty
[16:08] <LjL> Marce_: you create it, and then use update-rc.d to install it
[16:08] <wassy121> htmljunkie: you should also be able to just right-click on the .iso file and "burn to disc".
[16:08] <chazco> Anyone know a good DVB application for Gnome? Not MythTV
[16:08] <LjL> !tv > chazco    (chazco, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:08] <pike_> chazco: freevo?
[16:09] <un_op> mythtv :)
[16:09] <chazco> That just shows mainly KDE apps LjL
[16:09] <htmljunkie> k
[16:09] <htmljunkie> ty
[16:09] <chazco> pike_ - Freeview + the other digital ones
[16:09] <LjL> chazco: well, that's because it's mainly the ones i've found :)
[16:09] <chazco> Currently got Kaffeine but requires all the KDE livs etc
[16:09] <Marce_> pike_ & LjL i'll give a try
[16:10] <LjL> chazco: if you or someone else has other suggestions (better if it's stuff that is in the repositories), please update that bot factoid
[16:10] <chazco> Ok... was hoping for a Gnome app, will stick with Kaffeine for now
[16:12] <Duke_Fluke> samad909, I'm not sure if this driver is diff from what your using but I found thsi package you might want to try out      http://launchpadlibrarian.net/5595169/Attansic_L1.zip
[16:12] <Duke_Fluke> samad909, nevermind wrong card heres the right one http://42.pl/u/qMH_Attansic_L2_Linux
[16:13] <samad909> Duke_Fluke: checking now
[16:13] <menllyos> does having an encrypted root require a seperate unencrypted /boot ?
[16:13] <phoenixz> Hi there, is there some program available on linux that can open and view MS Visio files? Maybe even edit them?
[16:13] <samad909> Duke_Fluke: what do i do with that
[16:14] <MrYdremark> can i get transparent background in pidgin?
[16:14] <Duke_Fluke> samad909, first do you know what module is loaded for your nic now?
[16:15] <Duke_Fluke> samad909, lsmod
[16:15] <samad909> Duke_Fluke: a sec
[16:15] <cobb28> quick question: I'm getting a new mobo and cpu today and was wondering if I need to format or reinstall because of the hardware changes?
[16:15] <samad909> Duke_Fluke: if i am not wrong it is atl2
[16:16] <MrYdremark> can i get transparent background in pidgin?
[16:16] <daren> Hi, used vmware several weeks ago. Now when I try to start I get the error, that it is not configured well and I have to run /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
[16:16] <samad909> Duke_Fluke: what next? i think it is atl2 currently
[16:16] <nails> cobb28: are you change cpu arch (intel to amd, 32bit to 64 bit)?
[16:16] <daren> When I do this, he is asking me for the C header files
[16:17] <daren> which package did I have to install for the C header files ?
[16:17] <cobb28> nails: Yes im changing from amd64 to intel e6750
[16:17] <daren> "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[16:17] <daren> kernel? "
[16:18] <lusepuster> HI, I don't know if this is OT but I'm trying to install Empathy from svn, but its autogen.sh complains I lack the gtk-doc.m4. In which package is that to be found?
[16:18] <bullgard4> How can I determine if my Ubuntu 7.10 uses the vesafb driver? (It is no module.)
[16:18] <Duke_Fluke> samad909, ok  I think we have to blacklist atl2 and use the one you downloaded(which i think needs to be compiled first) hold im reading the readme file
[16:18] <Professor_K> can somebody help me plz, I have a noob question :S If I want to install emacs on ubuntu, all I have to do is sudo apt-get install emacs22 ?
[16:18] <rbil> !compiz
[16:18] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[16:18] <samad909> Duke_Fluke: ok get back to me once you are done
[16:18] <nails> It may work, but I am a believer that when you change your arch you should re-isntall as some apps compile specfic to your cpu arch to maximize permformance. You can always try and boot and see what happens.
[16:18] <th0r> Professor_K assuming the 22 is correct, yes
[16:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Why did I get this and a window to Ubuntu+1   [08:04] [Notice] -ChanServ- [#ubuntu+1] Please read the topic. Especially if things are broken!
[16:19] <Professor_K> well I never used emacs before, I want to try it so I dont know if the 22 is correct :S
[16:19] <cobb28> nails: ok thank you, i was thinking the same.
[16:20] <th0r> Professor_K give me a sec
[16:20] <LjL> phoenixz: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/18901 - however i can't find this "vsdviewer" on the web anymore, what freshmeat gives as its homepage is empty. there's almost certainly nothing in the repositories, anyway.
[16:20] <LjL> meh why do i waste time googling even
[16:21] <th0r> Professor_K emacs22 worked for me.
[16:21] <th0r> Professor_K and now I have emacs installed <smile>
[16:22] <Professor_K> th0r: ok thanks I will try to install it right now
[16:24] <Duke_Fluke> how do I blacklist a module on startup?
[16:24] <AngryElf> how do I make evolution message filters get run on every new message?
[16:24] <th0r> Duke_Fluke edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list
[16:25] <GeorgeA> I got thsi error from VirtualBox while running wnidowXP in it: Failed to laod control 'SocketXCtl" from socketx.ocx. Your version of socketx.ocx may be outdated. Make sure y ou are using the version of the control that was provided wih your application.
[16:25] <GeorgeA> it's actually an error in windowsXP, but i mean both VirtualBox and windowsXP are fresh installs
[16:25] <sdfdsfdsf> why my "netstat -an" show tcp6 as result instead of tcp?
[16:26] <anderswc> can anyone tell me how to extract a .bin file?
[16:26] <th0r> Duke_Fluke that filename should be blacklist...not my_blacklist
[16:26] <wassy121> anderswc: Depends on what kind of binary it is.
[16:26] <Professor_K> I have another noob question :S if I want to activate the firefox profile manager I know I have to run firefox -profilemanager in a terminal, but in what directory is firefox? :S
[16:27] <trpr> anderswc: run the command 'file <filename>' to determine what kind of file it is.
[16:27] <bauer_> how do i install openssl  development
[16:27] <anderswc> ok
[16:28] <th0r> Professor_K  I think it is in /usr/lib/firefox, but I have to wait for emacs to install before I  can get itno the server to check
[16:28] <anderswc> wassy121, POSIX shell script text executable
[16:28] <bauer_> i have tried "sudo apt-get install openssl-dev" but it won't work
[16:28] <th0r> Professor_K yup...that's right
[16:29] <wassy121> anderswc: Then it is meant to be run via "sh ./filename.bin"
[16:29] <DE> ciao
[16:29] <DE> !list
[16:29] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:29] <Jaymac> bauer_, is it perhaps one of these packages you want?  libcurl3-openssl-dev libcurl4-openssl-dev
[16:29] <sdfdsfdsf> why my "netstat -an" show tcp6 instead of tcp?
[16:29] <AngryElf> the filter I wrote for evolution works, but isn't getting run automatically on new messages, I have to intiate them manually..... isn't there someway to have all filters run on all incoming messages?
[16:29] <DE> !list
[16:29] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:29] <sdfdsfdsf> !list
[16:30] <Professor_K> th0r: yeah it's right I found it thx
[16:30] <bauer_> Jaymac: thx ill try them
[16:30] <c1|freaky> hi all. does someone know of a online, web based addressbook or contact management software, preferably also with a calendar. one with a good quality?
[16:30] <DE> !list
[16:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:30] <CupidWolf> quit
[16:30] <LjL> !botabuse > DE    (DE, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:30] <LjL> !botabuse > sdfdsfdsf    (sdfdsfdsf, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:30] <wassy121> c1|freaky: Zimbra is one.  Basecamp (37signals.com) is another.
[16:31] <Azo> ччч
[16:31] <DE> quit
[16:32] <zubuntu> a friend of mine has a laptop with 2 HDD and he attempted to install ubuntu 7.04 onto the secondary drive, but it looks like it clumped both drives together, is this the default behavior?
[16:32] <bauer_> Jaymac: thx it works :-)
[16:32] <Slart> zubuntu: nope
[16:32] <Jaymac> bauer_, you're welcome
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> zubuntu: Not at all
[16:33] <Slart> zubuntu: to be honest.. I don't think I could do that even if I wanted to... unless I did it after the install
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> zubuntu: He should stil see two different drives
[16:34] <sdfdsfdsf> why my "netstat -an" show tcp6 instead of tcp?
[16:34] <Slart> zubuntu: how do look at it when it looks like it's clumped both drives together?
[16:34] <Jaymac> zubuntu, are you SURE there are two hard drives in your laptop?
[16:34] <Jaymac> zubuntu, often laptop manufacturers create two partitions on your hard drive for some reason
[16:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Jaymac: Good point.. and not just two partitions on one drive
[16:34] <zubuntu> i am trying to help him over IM so i cannot view it directly i am relying on his poor description
[16:34] <Jaymac> what make of laptop is it?
[16:35] <c1|freaky> wassy121: thank you very much !! :D
[16:35] <sdfdsfdsf> why my "netstat -an" show tcp6 instead of tcp?
[16:35] <Prez00> hello
[16:35] <Jaymac> all sony laptops ship with the hard drive split into three partitions, two windows ones and a third recovery partition
[16:35] <zubuntu> HP and he is looking at disk usage analyzer
[16:35] <Prez00> does anyone have a canon ip1200 pixma working with gutsy?
[16:35] <Jack_Sparrow>    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=282096    for possible help with that printer
[16:36] <asdf71mrx2> hi
[16:36] <TellStar> Jaymac:   thanks :)
[16:36] <Jack_Sparrow> zubuntu: Is he running a livecd?
[16:36] <zubuntu> no he installed
[16:36] <Jaymac> TellStar, what for? :)
[16:36] <zubuntu> he has a liveCD
[16:37] <Jack_Sparrow> zubuntu: drop to terminal..  sudo fdisk -l
[16:37] <zubuntu> ok
[16:37] <bcardarella> Is there a way to test my postfix config other than the telnet login? I'm getting the codes that are described in the Ubuntu guide for Postfix but email still isn't working
[16:37] <TellStar> ur partition comment
[16:37] <c1|freaky> wassy121: umm, i'd need a software, not some company hosting it for me ;D
[16:37] <Jack_Sparrow> zubuntu: that last letter is an "L"
[16:37] <TellStar> few ppls back up the install.. properly
[16:37] <diego`> seek 3on3 now server on
[16:38] <Jaymac> TellStar, ah.. no prob :)
[16:38] <hendrixski> there isn't an application that can browse folders visually like nautilus and then promply turn into a commandline when you need to do stuff in that folder?
[16:38] <hendrixski> is ther?
[16:38] <wassy121> c1|freaky: You asked for something "good".  Zimbra can be installed on a machine you own.
[16:38] <c1|freaky> yea but it costs money
[16:38] <zubuntu> just to clarify he is trying to keep one drive windows for gaming and one drive linux for general use i will print his fdisk results momentarily
[16:38] <c1|freaky> do you know any open source solution for that?
[16:38] <Slart> hendrixski: I think there is an addon to nautlius that gives you a "start command line here" option..
[16:39] <Jack_Sparrow> zubuntu: Please use the pastebin not paste into the channel
[16:39] <hendrixski> Slart, ooh, you wouldn't happen to know what it's called?
[16:39] <zubuntu> right
[16:39] <c1|freaky> @ wassy121
[16:39] <Slart> hendrixski: nope, sorry.. but search in synaptic for nautilus actions or something like that
[16:40] <wassy121> c1|freaky: Not offhand.  google for a collaboration suite.  Freshmeat.net may have some listings too.
[16:40] <c1|freaky> ok thank you :))
[16:40] <hendrixski> Slart, the package nautilus-actions?
[16:40]  * hendrixski tries that
[16:41] <AngryElf> does anyone know what Evolutions' message filters wouldn't be running automagically?
[16:41] <Marce__> LjL: i put the script and run that command and when i boot i get an error saying that the command (tzoupdate) doesn't exists. I think that could be cause the script is executing so early?
[16:42] <LjL> Marce__, the command tzoupdate actually doesn't exist on my system
[16:42] <Marce__> LjL, that command is an installed-program from a deb
[16:43] <daren1> How to get the C header files (from my running kernel)
[16:43] <LjL> Marce__: then run it with an explicit path, like /usr/bin/tzoupdate (or whatever the correct path to it is)
[16:43] <daren1> What is the package name ?
[16:43] <LjL> !headers > daren1    (daren1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:43] <Slart> hendrixski: I think you can create something yourself using that package.. but I seem to recall there was a finished package for just that reason..
[16:43] <jmateos> rerererer
[16:43] <Marce__> LjL: ok, brb
[16:43] <Professor_K> is it ok to keep a terminal always open and run all the applications from that terminal (open as a simple user not as root) or I should open a terminal only if I want to install a program or do a special "things"?
[16:43] <nDevastator> how do you chmod a folder and all sub files and folders
[16:44] <nDevastator> is it /S
[16:44] <nDevastator> ?
[16:44] <Slart> hendrixski: I have to run so I can't help you any more.. sorry.. but I'm sure someone else in the channel knows how to do it
[16:44] <wassy121> nDevastator: chmod -R
[16:44] <daren1> thx
[16:44] <nDevastator> wassy121 tyvm ;D
[16:44] <hendrixski> Slart, well thanks for pointing me in the right direction
[16:44] <hendrixski> it's pretty helpful
[16:45] <hendrixski> Professor_K, it's Ok
[16:45] <pike_> nDevastator: -R for recursive
[16:45] <Vimes> Hi, how do i install Emerald Theme Maneger in Ubuntu? i tryed sudo apt-get install emerald emerald-themes but it wouldent work
[16:45] <hendrixski> Professor_K, I always have a terminal open, but that's because I'm old school.  Some people go their whole life without ever needing it
[16:45] <hendrixski> it's all about preferences.  But yes, it's safe to do everything from commandline if you would like to :-)
[16:45] <nDevastator> ok one more question... if i want to do rwxrwxr-x
[16:45] <DarthSOup> question: I just downloaded blueswirl.tar.bz2, a theme for GNOME, how do I install it?
[16:46] <hendrixski> !chmod nDevastator
[16:46] <th0r> Professor_K, the terminal will also show you error indications you wouldn't see otherwise
[16:46] <hendrixski> !chmod | nDevastator
[16:46] <ubotu> nDevastator: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[16:46] <Jack_Sparrow> nDevastator: What folder are you trying to do that on?
[16:46] <nDevastator> ~/web/thenihs/
[16:46] <AngryElf> does anyone know how to make Evolution *not* create a little popup from the ubuntu task bar when a new email is received?  I've got Don't notify me selected in mail preferences
[16:46] <Vimes> Anyone? how to install Emerald theme maneger?
[16:46] <wassy121> DarthSOup: System->Preferences->Appearance.
[16:46] <nDevastator> hmm jughead
[16:47] <nDevastator> i know a jughead irl
[16:47] <jughead> no kidding?
[16:47] <hendrixski> Vimes, Synaptic  or add/remove programs?
[16:47] <nDevastator> yea
[16:47] <Vimes> thanks!
[16:47] <DarthSOup> wassy121, the folders are just on my desktop though
[16:47] <wassy121> The one from the bubble gum wrappers?
[16:47] <rinaldi_> vimes: you got universe enabled? also try synaptic
[16:47] <Vimes> why didn't i think of that (blush)