[04:32] <Kyokan> i can enter the keychain (for my wireless I think) but it has no effect
[04:32] <spirals> Gaming4JC, download the installer inside the VM instead?
[04:32] <isotek> i use windows at work.
[04:32] <isotek> because they make me
[04:32] <visual1ce> hi - i have a little network with both machines running ubuntu (10.10 and 11.04 alpha). i want to be transfer some files from my laptop (10.10) to pc (11.04). how can i create a share on my pc so my laptop can access it? do i need to setup a 'workgroup' or similar?
[04:32] <semitones_tea> Can someone help me figure out why "sudo update-grub-legacy" fails to move me from grub 1.98 to grub2? I'm following the tutorial here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[04:32] <spirals> Gaming4JC, or try a different VM host - which are you on now
[04:32] <landingonwater> researcher123: good question. I want to delete a Ubuntu as well. I wonder how that is done.
[04:33] <edbian> Kyokan: Please use my name
[04:33] <oobiloz> isotek:  how will the gdm make my life easier
[04:33] <oobiloz> researcher123: has anyone answered your question yet?  i'm waiting on that as well
[04:33] <Gaming4JC> spirals: perhaps.... I'm using WinVISTA *worst OS ever* but same thing occured on XP.
[04:33] <researcher123> landingonwater: we can expect great help here
[04:33] <spirals> Gaming4JC, try virtualbox if you're not on it
[04:33] <Gaming4JC> spirals: QEMU currently.
[04:33] <oobiloz> landingonwater:  i agree with researcher123, this is the most helpful channel i've found so far
[04:33] <bob__> we could protest unfair labor practices against employers who force us to use windows ...
[04:33] <Kyokan> Edbian:  sorry....It occasionally connects but I have nothing else visible on the desktop to click on.  I can't use anything from there on but the cursor moves
[04:33] <Gaming4JC> Love QEMU launcher... :)
[04:33] <edbian> Kyokan: Do you ever reach the login screen.  (Still no idea what the heck xbel is)
[04:33] <spirals> Gaming4JC, yeah try virtualbox. similar ease of use, might 'just work' since your problem is fairly mysterious
[04:34]  * spirals waves hands
[04:34] <isotek> oobiloz: gdm, is the part that is most likely broken
[04:34] <edbian> Kyokan: It occasionally connects?  connects to what?  wifi?
[04:34] <jrtayloriv> researcher123, Just boot into one of them and see which partitions are mounted
[04:34] <Kyokan> Edbian: I believe that is the login stage - yes wifi
[04:35] <oobiloz> isotek:  ah, thank you :)  i will try that in a bit, i am waiting on the answer on researcher123's query
[04:35] <Kyokan> Edbian:  I am set to auto-connect but I have to enter my pw for the wifi
[04:35] <spirals> Gaming4JC, are you sure the rest of the files aren't flagged 'hidden' for windows? maybe autostart.exe or whatever is all windows can see. I assume it doesn't work when you open it in the qemu windows environment
[04:35] <landingonwater> jrtayloriv: so the correct way is to delete the partition with the OS, and then edit Grub afterwards ?
[04:35] <edbian> Kyokan: This all the harddrive install right?  Not a live CD
[04:35] <Gaming4JC> spirals: Yeah, the whole CD-rom as seen in the VM is only 37.5MB. Installer fails due to missing files. :(
[04:35] <Kyokan> Edbian yes
[04:36] <A|i3N> ok i gotta ask.... is frostwire worth it now that limewire is done with? lol
[04:36] <edbian> Kyokan: So the problem is you have no icons and no panels?
[04:36] <Kyokan> no problems with livecd
[04:36] <Gaming4JC> spirals: and it works fine on Ubuntu /media/H&RBlock
[04:36] <Kyokan> Edbian: yes, and my screen is unresponsive
[04:36] <Gaming4JC> Also tested /dev/sr0 same issue :P
[04:36] <oobiloz> i'm going to try what you said now isotek
[04:36] <edbian> Kyokan: But the mouse moves?  How is it unresponsive?
[04:36] <landingonwater> Vista is like shagging you first chick ever, and getting all sexual transmitted diseases in one go. I hate that OS so much :D
[04:36] <jrtayloriv> landingonwater, no -- he was asking how to determine which partitions 9.04 was installed on.
[04:36] <spirals> Gaming4JC, I'd definitely try another VM host if you've exhausted troubleshooting for qemu /cdrom (is there a #qemu channel?)
[04:36] <JonStatiK> technical question for you linux gurus. Everytime I activate my Proprietary drivers for my Radeon 6550Mobility with ATI/AMD FGLRX and I reboot to complete the installation it  and only boots into command line. Any thoughts?removes the gui
[04:37] <Kyokan> Edbian: I have pop up notifications, the mouse moves (although my cursor has changed) but it doesn't work
[04:37] <landingonwater> jrtayloriv: ooh.. i see. that should be easy enough ofcoarse.
[04:37] <spirals> Gaming4JC, yes there is a #qemu, try there before you install virtualbox
[04:37] <Gaming4JC> spirals: Yeah I've been waiting around on #qemu seems deathly quiet tonight
[04:37] <spirals> kk
[04:37] <spirals> definitely sounds like a qemu specific issue though.
[04:37] <edbian> Kyokan: What do you mean it 'doesn't work'  Is there anything to click on?
[04:37] <ayecee> JonStatiK: the drivers didn't work. it's hard to say more from the description. checked the X logs?
[04:37] <edbian> Kyokan: Maybe it 'works' but there is nothing clickable on the screen
[04:37] <Gaming4JC> spirals: Yeah, could be. Guess I'll try for VirtualBox... *downloads*
[04:38] <edbian> Kyokan: What happens if you press alt + F2 ?
[04:38] <Kyokan> Edbian:  I have also tried different shortcuts with function keys and theat does nothing either.  There is nothing to click on no
[04:38] <Kyokan> Edbian: nothing
[04:38] <JonStatiK> ive not checked the logs, no.
[04:38] <spirals> Gaming4JC, good luck, i'm away for a bit, plenty of people run virtualbox if you run into the same weirdness again.
[04:38] <edbian> Kyokan: ctrl + alt + F1  ?
[04:38] <bob__> Vista was a Mac hoax .... hehe
[04:38] <ayecee> JonStatiK: that would be the best place to start.
[04:38] <Gaming4JC> spirals: ok, thanks. :)
[04:38] <Kyokan> Edbian: nothing
[04:38] <Semitones> Hey, I'm trying to go from grub legacy to grub 2, and what I'm trying isn't working. Can anyone assist me in troubleshooting the process? Thanks! (what i'm trying: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2)
[04:39] <ayecee> Semitones: what happens when you ty?
[04:39] <edbian> Kyokan: Can you boot recovery mode?
[04:39] <Kyokan> Yes
[04:39] <Kyokan> Edbian: I am not confident as to what I am doing though
[04:39] <Semitones> ayecee, well "sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy" finishes with no errors, but when I boot I have grub 1.98 still
[04:40] <edbian> Kyokan: boot into recovery mode.  Do you see any errors while it is booting?  When you get to the multi-choice question.  Choose boot Ubuntu normally and see what it does.
[04:40] <edbian> Kyokan: Can you chat with my on here while you work on the target machine?
[04:40] <ChogyDan> Semitones: 1.98 is the latest, ie it =2
[04:40] <Semitones> oh haha, thanks!
[04:41] <JoeJohn> mmmk
[04:41] <Kyokan> Edbian:  I am on the target machine so I will have to connect another computer
[04:41] <JoeJohn> hola
[04:41] <A|i3N> somewhat weird question - does ubuntu need any virus protection and is there any available?
[04:41] <Kyokan> Edbian can you give me 5 mins to get the other machine?
[04:41] <JoeJohn> good question
[04:41] <edbian> Kyokan: pause, you're talking to me on xchat, on the target machine.  How did you pull that off?
[04:41] <Kyokan> I am using the livecd
[04:41] <edbian> Kyokan: ahhh
[04:42] <ayecee> A|i3N: no, and not really
[04:42] <edbian> A|i3N: It does not need virus protection.
[04:42] <edbian> A|i3N: There isn't really any.
[04:42] <Weems> how do I install flash on an amd64 architecture install?
[04:42] <Weems> the only version on adobes site is i386
[04:42] <jrtayloriv> Weems, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:43] <JonStatiK> seems as if it's not detecting the graphics card the log says (EE) No devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens found.
[04:43] <isotek> sudo apt-get install flash-installer
[04:43] <JoeJohn> is there a backtrack channel?
[04:43] <isotek> theres a gnacktrack channel
[04:43] <soreau> ! backtrack | JoeJohn
[04:43] <isotek> which is kinda like backtrack
[04:43] <isotek> only with more gnome
[04:44] <Weems> iotek: theres not a flash installer
[04:44] <Weems> isotek*
[04:44] <isotek> Weems: sudo apt-get update
[04:44] <Weems> ok
[04:44] <oobiloz> isotek:  i did as you have intructed.  This is what I got:  Failed to acquire org.gnome.  Display manager connection ":1.28" is not allowed to own the service "ogr.gnome.DisplayManager" due to security policies in the confif file
[04:45] <oobiloz> Warning:  could not acquire name; bailing out
[04:45] <isotek> check /var/log/messages i think you might find something there
[04:45] <oobiloz> me?
[04:45] <JonStatiK> think it could be because im on a laptop and hardware/drivers are somewhat picky?
[04:45] <isotek> Weems: flashplugin-installer
[04:45] <isotek> my bad.
[04:45] <oobiloz> is there anything else i can do at this point?
[04:46] <Weems> oh
[04:46] <oobiloz> apart from installing a new OS, keeping names, and hopi9ng that will keep my files?
[04:47] <isotek> oobiloz: tail /var/log/messages
[04:47] <Kyokan> Edbian:  I can't get another computer right now.  However, if I boot up normally, everything goes smoothly up to the point where I enter the password into the window and I hit enter but nothing happens. After that I cannot even delete the text I just entered
[04:48] <edbian> Kyokan: That password is to connect Wifi right?  Is the system normal if you don't enter your password?
[04:49] <Kyokan> Edbian: correct.  Not normal as my desktop doesn't display normally
[04:49] <edbian> Kyokan: What if you boot into recovery mode?
[04:49] <Kyokan> Edbian for eg. My icons and panels are missing
[04:50] <isotek> Kyokan: ctrl+alt+f1
[04:50] <edbian> Kyokan: Does alt + f2 work before you enter hte password?
[04:50] <isotek> login
[04:50] <edbian> Kyokan: or ctrl + alt + F1
[04:50] <Kyokan> Edbian: I don't think it works before either but I can double chesk
[04:50] <isotek> Kyokan: tail /var/log/messages
[04:50] <oobiloz> isotek:  anything i should look for in particular?
[04:50] <edbian> Kyokan: typing into the wifi password box works.
[04:50] <edbian> Kyokan: I'm pretty sure ctrl + alt + F1 will work.
[04:51] <Kyokan> I did have a tail message yes
[04:51] <isotek> oobiloz:just give me the line you see most often
[04:51] <oobiloz> isotek:  thank you.  will do it now.  bbiab
[04:51] <ethan> can anyone help me set up mod_rewrite in apache2?
[04:51] <Kyokan> Edbian:  OK I will try it. If it works, what should I do then?
[04:52] <edbian> Kyokan: You can use ctrl + alt + F7 to go back to graphics.  I would like to see the output of tail /var/log/messages if at all possibles
[04:52] <edbian> Kyokan: or, better yet, tail dmesg
[04:52] <Kyokan> Edbian:  can you tell me how to get those messages, please?
[04:52] <isotek> wow, that ethan guy sure did give a lot of oprotunity to answer
[04:53] <edbian> Kyokan: just do ctrl + alt + F1 and then run tail dmesg  and tell me what it says
[04:53] <edbian> Kyokan: Sorry, tail /var/log/messages
[04:53] <isotek> Kyokan: type the command "tail -n 20 /var/log/messages"
[04:53] <edbian> Kyokan: tail dmesg does not work
[04:54] <jrtayloriv> 'dmesg | tail' will work though
[04:54] <Kyokan> Edbian:  do I run that from recovery mode as I need to sign out of here whilst i do this
[04:55] <rypervenche> If I want someone to ssh to my computer, but I don't want them to know my password, is it possible to make another user account and have them log in to it while I'm logged into my account?
[04:55] <edbian> Kyokan: no. listen.  boot normally, don't enter the wifi password.  Instead press crtl + alt + F1, log in there, and then run tail /var/log/messages
[04:55] <oobiloz> isotek: i only got one line.  Permission denied
[04:55] <isotek> jrtayloriv: yes, it will return 5 results however instead
[04:55] <edbian> rypervenche: yes
[04:55] <edbian> rypervenche: That is exactly what you should do.
[04:55] <isotek> oobiloz: as root?
[04:55] <oobiloz> yyes
[04:55] <oobiloz> sudo su
[04:55] <isotek> rypervenche: useradd
[04:56] <oobiloz> maybe i did something wrong, let me try again, it sounds like it should work
[04:56] <isotek> oobiloz: run whoami
[04:56] <jrtayloriv> isotek, Then he can type 'dmesg | tail -n 20'
[04:56] <Kyokan> Edbian:  understood.  brb
[04:56] <oobiloz> thank you
[04:56]  * oobiloz away again
[04:56] <edbian> Kyokan: god speed
[04:56] <isotek> jrtayloriv: yes, i do know how tail works.
[04:58] <jrtayloriv> isotek, I have no way of knowing that, especially when you just stated something that wasn't true about it, and didn't give any indication that you knew that you could specify how many lines it would print.
[04:58] <isotek> jrtayloriv: what I said was completely factual.
[04:59] <jrtayloriv> isotek, No, what you said was false. It prints 10 lines, not 5.
[04:59] <isotek> jrtayloriv: ah, indeed my bad.
[05:00] <jrtayloriv> No worries.
[05:01] <mcurran> Anyone here know how to fix the issue where broadcom cannot connect to "unsecured" wireless networks, without using ndiswrapper
[05:02] <edbian> mcurran: broadcom... 4312 ?
[05:02] <isotek> jrtayloriv: i wonder if there is a varient that defaults to 5. perhaps freebsd solaris or hpUX
[05:04] <edbian> mcurran: ?
[05:06] <edbian> anybody?  hello?
[05:07] <Dcite> ?
[05:07] <adsl> ?
[05:07] <bazhang> edbian, anybody what?
[05:07] <Polah> What is it?
[05:07] <edbian> nothing.  Just felt lonely for a second there
[05:07] <v_v> -_-
[05:07] <jrtayloriv> isotek, tail is a standard Unix utility, and defaults to 10. It's the same on FreeBSD and Solaris. I'm not familiar with hpUX, but I'm sure it's probably the same there too.
[05:07]  * spirals ushers edbian into the hugbox
[05:08] <v_v> you are not alone, may the force be with you ~~ edbian
[05:08] <edbian> :)
[05:09] <mymeatinyourseat> can someone please tell me why when everytime I try n open wine or halo ce, ubuntu always has that red like do not enter sign?? ..kind of like a red x or yellow ! on windows
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> mymeatinyourseat:  where exactly are you seeing this sign?
[05:10] <mymeatinyourseat> dw, will u IM with me please
[05:10] <lookin_for_MB> hi
[05:11] <isotek> mymeatinyourseat: what does the sign say?
[05:11] <lookin_for_MB> Do you know a good website to search mother board model?
[05:11] <isotek> lookin_for_MB: google?
[05:11] <oobiloz> isotek:  this is what i got.... hda-intel: azx_get response timeout, switching to polling mode: last cmd-0x302f2d00
[05:11] <lookin_for_MB> isotek: too many pages
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> lookin_for_MB:  to search for what exactly? theres the #hardware channel
[05:11] <Guest2887> hiiiii
[05:11] <lookin_for_MB> bargage
[05:11] <lookin_for_MB> garbage
[05:11] <oobiloz> ip tables: (c) 2000-2006 Netfilter core team
[05:12] <lookin_for_MB> Dr_Willis: I want to find the motherboard manual
[05:12] <Guest2887> how to install bt4 r2 on usb save changes???
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> lookin_for_MB:  look at the mb makers homepage.
[05:12] <oobiloz> nf_conntrack version 0.5.0 (16384 buckets, 65536 max)
[05:12] <jiltdil> Dr_Willis:how to play video in termainl?
[05:12] <lookin_for_MB> Dr_Willis: it's megatrends
[05:12] <ayecee> Guest2887: #backtrack_linux is better for that, I hear
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> Guest2887:  use some usb installer tool to do it . that makes a persistant save file. see the pendrivelinux web site.. and try the backtrack channels.. not here.
[05:12] <lookin_for_MB> PCCHIPS M758LMR 1.0 Motherboard with American Megatrends Inc. 062710 07/15/97 BIOS
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> jiltdil:  You mean in the consoles?
[05:13] <isotek> Guest2887: i believe what you are looking for is "Backtrack persistant usb"
[05:13] <jiltdil> Dr_Willis:yes
[05:13] <mymeatinyourseat> how do u IM peeps in this thing
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> jiltdil:  seen framebuffer video players ages ago.. saw where mplayer could do it also. (ages ago) or theres the funny asccii-art video output feature to mplayer that shows the video in an asci-animation format..
[05:14] <oobiloz> CONFIG_NF_CT_ACCT is deprecated and will be removed soon.  Please use nf_conntrack_acct=1 kernel parameter, acct=1 nf_conntrack module option or sysctl net.net-filter, nf_conntract_acct=1 to enable it
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> mymeatinyourseat:  its best to not IM people. keep it in the channel
[05:14] <j5> has anyone found a way to transfer stuff over to a iPhone in linux?
[05:14] <oobiloz> ath 3k:  probe of <IP_ADDRESS>.0 failed with error -5
[05:14] <mymeatinyourseat> dw, r u admin??
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> !iphone
[05:14] <jiltdil> Dr_Willis:ok which framebufer does ubuntu uses
[05:14] <oobiloz> usb core:  registered new interface driver at ath3k
[05:14] <oobiloz> isotek:  that's mostly what i got
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> jiltdil:  framebuffer modules are loaded depending on what video chipset you have.
[05:14] <jrtayloriv> jiltdil, Look into sdl output for mplayer, I think
[05:15] <lookin_for_MB> Dr_Willis: ##hardware is for registered ppl only
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> mplayer could do sdl  also perhaps thats what i saw ages ago.
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> lookin_for_MB:  so register your nick..
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> geexbox used to use mplayer+sdl  (or framebuffer) to play videos with out X.
[05:15] <lookin_for_MB> Dr_Willis: eh
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> !register | lookin_for_MB
[05:15] <jrtayloriv> wait -- it might actually be fbdev. Try mplayer -vo fbdev videofile.avi if sdl doesn't work
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> The Framebuffer/sdl stuff. had limitations compared to running a video player in X.
[05:16] <jiltdil> Dr_Willis: when i use this mplayer -vo svga -ao sdl movie.avi  it starts playing video but the screen is divided into two portions also the video is playing slow
[05:16] <oobiloz> isotek:  i'm lost
[05:16] <Guest2887> kagax ngerti???
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> jiltdil:  is it a HD video? try other -vo options perhaps.
[05:17] <jiltdil> jrtayloriv:fbdev didn't worked i checked it only gives sound no video
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> svga would have limits on the res it can do also i belive
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> jiltdil:  you may need to load the proper framebuffer module.  Framebuffer is a bit of a unloved area  in many places.
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> neat idea. but sort of lost/unsuipported now a days.
[05:18] <Gaming4JC> Hey all, I'm trying to install H&R Block TaxCut in a VBox, but when I browse the CD from the VM, some of the files are missing | Also the installer fails. Same thing occurs in qemu :(
[05:18] <Gaming4JC> ideas? :s http://i.imgur.com/z3YVZ.png (pic of virtual machine crime scene)
[05:18] <jrtayloriv> jiltdil, I honestly don't have much experience with framebuffer video. Look around on Google and see what you can find.
[05:18] <jrtayloriv> Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> Gaming4JC:  copy everything from the cd to a directory. and share that directory to vbox via its guest addons.  perhaps.
[05:19] <jiltdil> jrtayloriv: ya i tried most of my known commands to play but the video played is not in good condition
[05:19] <Gaming4JC> Dr_Willis: Hmm, perhaps... but why doesn't the CD just "work"? :P
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> Gaming4JC:  or dd the cd to an iso file. and have vbox mount/access the iso file directly
[05:19] <tony_> yo
[05:20] <Gaming4JC> Dr_Willis: I'll try the second option, just to check... good idea. :)
[05:20] <Guest2887> cant speak indonesia???
[05:20] <bazhang> !id | Guest2887
[05:20] <jiltdil> ok one more question when i copy files or any thing from a remotely acess machine via scp why the size gows less when it copied to my system?
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> jiltdil:  rounding/blocksize,  MiB vs MB defaults...
[05:21]  * Dr_Willis guesses
[05:21] <jiltdil> Dr_willis:blocksize
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu also uses MiB now by default for most apps. I think.. other systems may still be using MB. this can cause some confusion
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> or am i backwards...
[05:23] <Guest2887> gimana cara join nya???
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> mymeatinyourseat:  theres no need to msg people.. clarify your problem to the channel.
[05:23] <bazhang>  /join #ubuntu-id Guest2887
[05:23] <ouyes> hey all, I want to collect to my pc which is running windows xp, and I open remote desktop viewer, and type its ip address and click connect, failed,  the ip address is right
[05:23] <mymeatinyourseat> k
[05:23] <ouyes> then where is wrong?
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> ouyes:  you got some sort of remote desktop service running on XP?
[05:25] <LorgonJortle> G'day mates.
[05:25] <Gaming4JC> !welcome | LorgonJortle
[05:25] <jiltdil> Dr_Willis:how to password protect amy folder,directory or files?
[05:26] <Katronix> I just installed screen on my vps and now it tells me "Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check." when I try to run it, can someone suggest how I may fix it?
[05:26]  * Gaming4JC is so tired he forgot 'greet' o.o
[05:26] <LorgonJortle> If I turn visual effects on, things work nicely for about 30 seconds, then the screen goes black and goes back to no effects. Ideas?
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> jiltdil:  jiltdil  thers some fuse tools that can let you do that.. but i am not that paranoid and never trtied it.
[05:26] <mcurran> anyon get outlook working in wine (2007)
[05:26] <mymeatinyourseat> dw, every time I try n open something that's like foreign to linux, it like always says  an error occured while loading the archive
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> jiltdil:  if you set the proper permissiosn.. other users cant access your home dir/files anyway
[05:26] <ouyes> Dr_Willis, I don think so, but you can run remote desktop to connect to a pc from xp
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> ouyes:  you need some sort of service for the remote desktop to connect to.
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> ouyes:  such as a vncserver.
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> Not sure if XP has any others built in by default.
[05:27] <mcurran> use teamviewer its easy
[05:27] <jiltdil> Dr_Willis: ok
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> teamviewer works very well.
[05:27] <mymeatinyourseat> dw, every time I try n open something that's like foreign to linux, it like always says  an error occured while loading the archive
[05:28] <ouyes> Dr_Willis, running on the pc which I want to connect to on ubuntu /
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> mymeatinyourseat:  what archive are you refering to.
[05:28] <mymeatinyourseat> dw, help me please
[05:28] <jrtayloriv> jiltdil, You can also look into https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[05:28] <Gaming4JC> Dr_Willis: dd worked wonders, thanks for the tip. I was too tired to think of it. :)
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> mymeatinyourseat:  give more details.  You are very lacking in specifics..
[05:28] <jiltdil> jrtayloriv:thanx
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> Gaming4JC:  :)
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> Gaming4JC:  i wold think the issue may of been filename translations going on.
[05:29] <ogonga> hello?
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> Hello ogonga
[05:29] <ogonga> I just downloaded this, what exactly is it?
[05:29] <Gaming4JC> !greet | ogonga
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> ogonga:  downloaded what?
[05:29] <Gaming4JC> Ubuntu? Best OS you've ever tried.
[05:29] <Gaming4JC> :D
[05:30] <ogonga> xchat-gnome irc client
[05:30] <zw> 哈哈
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> ogonga:  its an irc client..
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> !irc
[05:30] <mymeatinyourseat> why can't I paste my error message in here
[05:30] <ogonga> so you just chat on here?
[05:30] <jrtayloriv> ogonga, You can use this if you ever have problems with your computer to ask people for help.
[05:30] <isotek> ouyes: xp has support for remote desktop, ubuntu uses vnc
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> ogonga:  ive chatted on IRC for many many years.. :) yes.
[05:30] <jrtayloriv> It's a technical chat room
[05:30] <ogonga> wow, that's cool
[05:30] <Katronix> can anyone here help me with my screen issue?
[05:30] <zw> yes
[05:30] <jrtayloriv> ogonga, It's a very quick way to get free tech support :)
[05:30] <isotek> Dr_Willis: how many is many?
[05:30] <red2kic> mymeatinyourseat: Because 1000+ users don't need to see it.
[05:30] <zw> what's wrong
[05:30] <LorgonJortle> If I turn visual effects on, things work nicely for about 30 seconds, then the screen goes black and goes back to no effects. Ideas
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> isotek:  mid 80's
[05:31] <Katronix> zw: when I try to run it, it replies: Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check.
[05:31] <isotek> you've got me beat
[05:31] <isotek> 92 here.
[05:31] <ouyes> isotek, I know but how to make a pc running ubuntu connect to a pc running xp, that is my problem
[05:31] <ogonga> I have a problem with my printer. Ubuntu 10.10 won't recognize it so I can't print it to my computer anymore.
[05:31] <zw> sorry
[05:31] <isotek> ouyes: install realvnc on the ubuntu
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> isotek:  ive irc'd on greenbar printing 'terminals' and compiled 'irc' client on vt100 terminals. :)
[05:31] <zw> BAI DU
[05:32] <zw> HE
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu has vnc clients built in.  You nweed an vnc server on windows.  :)
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> ouyes:  so install a vncserver on the windows box.
[05:32] <Katronix> so I take it no one can help with the screen issue?
[05:32] <NeedSomeH> anyone know sql?
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> ouyes:  theres many of them. Ive used Ultravnc, tigervnc, tightvnc. and others.
[05:32] <isotek> i connected via slip accounts back when libraries provided them for free.
[05:32] <LorgonJortle> "I no longer have the Windows box. Should I've kept it?"
[05:32] <LorgonJortle> :P
[05:32] <LittleRed> NeedSomeH: what are you looking for?
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> LorgonJortle: Your videochipset is what?
[05:33] <NeedSomeH> LittleRed, I'm trying to do a SELECT stringfield, yearfield, stringfield FROM tbl1 UNION SELECT stringfield, yearfield, stringfield FROM tbl2, but get a Illegal mix of collations for operation 'UNION'-error. Any idea?
[05:33] <j_ayen_green> I have two sbackup full backup directories on a NAS, but when I run sbackup restore and point it there, it says there are no backup files... do I have to unarchive the .tgz's in the full backup?
[05:34] <apetrescu> What's the best way to get the 2.6.38 kernel in Maverick? Is there a PPA I can use?
[05:34] <LittleRed> NeedSomeH: let me look at the suntax
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> apetrescu:  theres kernel ppa's but ive never used them.
[05:34] <jrtayloriv> ogonga, You said "anymore" -- was your printer working before? Or has it never worked with Ubuntu?
[05:34] <jrtayloriv> oops -- talking to ghosts ...
[05:34] <LorgonJortle> Dr_Willis, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 1GB
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> LorgonJortle:  you are using the fglrx driver? or the open sourced driver?
[05:35] <jrtayloriv> NeedSomeH, You might want to try #mysql
[05:35] <LorgonJortle> Dr_Willis, The fglrx driver.
[05:35] <jrtayloriv> You'll be a lot more likely to get help there
[05:35] <NeedSomeH> jrtayloriv, cannot send to channel there
[05:35] <LittleRed> NeedSomeH: are your data types the same for each matching field?
[05:35] <LorgonJortle> NeedSomeH, Register your nick
[05:35] <jrtayloriv> Just register an IRC nick
[05:35] <NeedSomeH> LittleRed, yes, same type
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> LorgonJortle:  could be a bug in the driver making it crash. You could perhaps get some logging/error mesages by starting compiz from a terminal.  open a terminal. run 'compiz --replace'  run for a bit.. and wait for it to crash and look for any error messages
[05:36] <NeedSomeH> LittleRed, i can show you the complete query if you want
[05:36] <mymeatinyourseat> it starts with when ubuntu 11 comes out next month, will we get it through the package manager or do we have to download and burn the iso
[05:36] <LittleRed> NeedSomeH: Yes, it might be something 'different'
[05:36] <NeedSomeH> LittleRed, http://pastebin.com/UEj920b2
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> mymeatinyourseat:  You can upgrade..
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> mymeatinyourseat:  but i normally do clean installs.
[05:37] <LorgonJortle> Dr_Willis, And now it doesn't crash... o.O
[05:37] <mymeatinyourseat> upgrade..??
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade
[05:37] <bob__> heard there were instructional vids on youtube for sql ...
[05:37] <mymeatinyourseat> is that automattic updates or the CD
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> Update manager can be set to ask to upgrade to the next release.
[05:38] <Katronix> is there a better channel for the issue I'm having?
[05:38] <LorgonJortle> bob__, "Heard there were instruction vids on YouTube for *<insert here>*"
[05:38] <lediable> finilly, that'swath i've found to do the job :/
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> wathing people type in sql queries..  with a Heavy Metal soundtrack! :)
[05:38] <LittleRed> NeedSomeH: it could be that you are concatinating (sp?)
[05:39] <root__> [Amarok] [title: I Am The Walrus] [artist: The Beatles] [album: Magical Mystery Tour [DESS MFSL-1-047]]
[05:39] <jrtayloriv> NeedSomeH, Again, you'll probably have a lot more success if you take 1 minute to register an IRC nick and ask in the channel that is specifically dedicated to SQL
[05:39] <bob__> lol ya ... anything you can think of ... have had several professors use youtube for intructional vids ...
[05:39] <bazhang> root__, disable that please
[05:40] <mymeatinyourseat> cool. so, I won't have to upgrade with the cd and reformat my comp??
[05:40] <jrtayloriv> You'll spend a lot more than 1 minute trying to get an answer in the wrong channel
[05:40] <LittleRed> NeedSomeH: does user have a month and day fields?
[05:40] <Katronix> ah figured out my screen issue lol
[05:40] <root__> I   D O N  ' T   K N O W   H O W
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> mymeatinyourseat:  normally people 'upgrade' via their network connection. not a cd.. ( but you canupgrade with the alt-installer cd)
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> mymeatinyourseat:  so  i guess thats a yes.
[05:40] <NeedSomeH> LittleRed, on  line 6 you mean?
[05:41] <mymeatinyourseat> I want the auto update thing and not have to use a cd
[05:41] <LittleRed> NeedSomeH: yes line 6...
[05:42] <mymeatinyourseat> and if that's ture, then why can't I get the 11beta through the update manager
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> mymeatinyourseat:  you can upgrade now to the 11.04 ALPHA3 if you wanted to
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> mymeatinyourseat:  so far its taken this pc like 5 hrs to upgrade....
[05:42] <NeedSomeH> LittleRed, nope, tried without concat's
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> and its not done yet.
[05:42] <jiltdil> mymeatinyourseat:in alt+f2  use update-manager -d
[05:42] <mymeatinyourseat> can I do it without using a cd
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> mymeatinyourseat:  for the 100th time.. YES.. you dont need the cd.
[05:43] <jiltdil> yes
[05:43] <mcl0vin> i need help with tap0 interface
[05:43] <mcl0vin> i setup a tap 0 interface , and connect it to a cloud in GNS3 , i can ping the tap 0 int but not what is connected to it which is on the same /24 network
[05:43] <mymeatinyourseat> sorry, dw
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> mymeatinyourseat:  if you have to ask such questions.. then i dont think you really want to be upgrading to  alpha level software at this time.
[05:43] <LittleRed> NeedSomeH: i'm looking at it and wonder if there is a primary key or secondary... how does the query know what info belongs together
[05:43] <mcl0vin> i can ping <IP_ADDRESS>/24 but i can't ping <IP_ADDRESS>/24  on F0/0 of RouterD http://www.screencast.com/users/i3igmind/folders/Jing/media/be827da7-a54c-4583-867a-5e261481d7fb can somehelp me please
[05:44] <astropirate> Is there an easy way to setup gnome-shell? i tried it today and got a million billion error messages
[05:44] <NeedSomeH> LittleRed, the column count and datatypes in both SELECTs matches
[05:44] <jrtayloriv> Well folks, it's sleepy time. But before I go: http://xkcd.com/149/
[05:44] <mymeatinyourseat> jiltdil and dw, can u please tell me what to put in the terminal to get the alpha
[05:45] <NeedSomeH> LittleRed, both have a stringcolumn, yearcolumn, then another string
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> mymeatinyourseat:  it was given just earlier.... by jiltdil
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> mymeatinyourseat:  expect it to take like 4+ hrs to finish...
[05:45] <s5fs> astropirate: i'm running 10.10 and installed it via apt
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> mymeatinyourseat:  and  its possible it could fail and leave you with a unuseable system..
[05:45] <LittleRed> NeedSomeH: I'm at a dead end....
[05:46] <astropirate> s5fs, when did you?i th ought they stoped updating it there
[05:46] <Dr_Willis>  jiltdil | mymeatinyourseat:in alt+f2  use update-manager -d
[05:46] <mymeatinyourseat> thanks for the warning, dw
[05:46] <astropirate> s5fs, ok, apt found it and is installing
[05:46] <astropirate> how do i switch to it?
[05:46] <NeedSomeH> LittleRed, could it be because event in the first select is a textfield, while name in the second select is a varchar(255) ?
[05:46] <astropirate> once its isntalled
[05:47] <s5fs> astropirate: I think I just ran it from the command-line.
[05:47] <j5> How do I transfer stuff to my iPhone?
[05:47] <LittleRed> NeedSomeH: UNION just removes duplicate data.... when you run it do you get any results?
[05:48] <astropirate> hmm the resulotion is all fracked up
[05:48] <mymeatinyourseat> then if it's unstable, is there a beta I can get instead of the alpha??
[05:48] <NeedSomeH> LittleRed, no, error 1271 Illegal mix of collations for operation 'UNION'
[05:48] <jiltdil> mymeatinyourseat:wait for 1 more month you will get final release
[05:48] <s5fs> astropirate: i didn't spend a great deal of time working with it. seemed really "not my speed" i guess, haha
[05:49] <banksy> Building a new mythbuntu machine (0.24 on 10.10) with an nvidia GT430 and a 42" Full HD TV. This is replacing my old FE/BE.  All seems ok with 260.19.06 except the aspect ratio in myth was not quite right (TV reporting incorrect DPI), so I manually added the correct DPI option to xorg.conf.  This fixed the aspect ratio in myth, but on the desktop (xfce) all fonts are tiny - just readable but not usable.  Any idea why?
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> mymeatinyourseat:  its not out in beta yet..
[05:49] <mymeatinyourseat> dw, why does ubuntu always release their DVDs on the dates corresponding to their DVD versions
[05:49] <LittleRed> NeedSomeH: look at this http://www.karakas-online.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3515
[05:50] <mcl0vin> anyone here using GNS3 please
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> mymeatinyourseat:   You got it backwards. the version # IS the date...
[05:50] <mymeatinyourseat> like ubuntu 10.10 was released on 10/10/2010
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> mymeatinyourseat:  because the version # is the date..
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> and the date is the version #. :)
[05:50] <mymeatinyourseat> at 10:10am
[05:50] <mymeatinyourseat> oh
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> they dont always do it on the eaact time,
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> and its not always on the same 'day'  11.04 = 2011. 4th month
[05:51] <DaPenguin> you know, i've never actually noticed that before lol
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> DaPenguin:  :)
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> DaPenguin:  i find it rather silly really.  but at least its easy to rember
[05:51] <hiexpo> hey Dr_Willis
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> hello hiexpo
[05:52] <NeedSomeH> LittleRed, hmm.. cant see he uses a UNION in his query
[05:52] <mymeatinyourseat> and 11.04 will be released on 4/11
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> 2011 4th month...
[05:52] <syn-ack> mymeatinyourseat, the 28th
[05:52] <syn-ack> That's what I read on the timeline unless it's been pulled back
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> thers always a chance of delays
[05:53] <syn-ack> Of course.
[05:53] <j_ayen_green> what the heck is sbackup looking for as a backup file when I want to restore? the .ful directory is there, with a .tgz in it... now I'm gunzipping the .tgz, is it looking for a tar?
[05:53] <mymeatinyourseat> can I ask linux Qs in here or does it have to stay strictly ubuntu
[05:53] <s5fs> mymeatinyourseat: go crazy
[05:53] <DaPenguin> well, ubuntu is linux lol
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> mymeatinyourseat:  ubuntu is linux. so most all apply :)
[05:54] <jiltdil> mymeatinyourseat:linux is the kernel name and ubuntu is its flavour :)
[05:54] <mymeatinyourseat> I know if I want windows, then go to windows, but..
[05:54] <syn-ack> mymeatinyourseat, also, please change your nick to something less offensive. I personally don't care but others in here may
[05:54] <LittleRed> NeedSomeH: looks like there may be a bug in MySQL  ... google the exact error...
[05:54] <s5fs> syn-ack: I assumed he was a butcher who often provided car services to the underpriviledged.
[05:54] <mymeatinyourseat> my sn is the most unique in the world!!
[05:55] <NeedSomeH> LittleRed, hmm ok, thanks. Gotta look at it tomorrow
[05:55] <lazyPower> Is there a way to enable starting X applications on a remote Ubuntu desktop over ssh?
[05:55] <syn-ack> lazyPower, look at x forwarding
[05:56] <lazyPower> for example, i'd like to ssh into my desktop, and start a VLC session. however i'm getting a "unable to connect to x server"
[05:56] <DaPenguin> lazyPower, think you need vnc for that
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> lazyPower:  dont enable the X forwaring on the ssh sesson, export the proper DISPLAY variable. and perhaps you need to use the 'xhost +' command to allow the app to apper on the remote...
[05:56] <mymeatinyourseat> dw, can u please tell me what linux OS is best for each of the following..
[05:56] <lazyPower> syn-ack: that only "forwards" the connection to my client so i could se it locally right? thats not what i want.
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> vnc does not work that way. :)
[05:57] <DaPenguin> Dr_Willis, oh, ok, never really had a need for it, i tend to stick to a cli even on my local machine lol
[05:57] <s5fs> lazyPower: so you wanna ssh in and launch an app so the display is on the *remote* machine, yes?
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> lazyPower:   You need to set the DISPLAY properly, and  disable the 'xhost' security settings.
[05:57] <lazyPower> s5fs: correct.
[05:57] <lazyPower> Dr_Willis: i have display exported to 0:0
[05:58] <lazyPower> Dr_Willis: so the issue lies in xhost then?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> actuyally the xhost command may need to be ran first on the remote box.  (not over the ssh session)
[05:58] <lazyPower> ahh crap
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> Its an X security thing tokeep people from taking over/doing things to a curently ruynning x session
[05:58] <lazyPower> :| i dont have a keyboard atached to that system
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> make  a script in the users startup that does it. or make  script you can double clcik on that runs it.
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> been years since ive done it that way
[05:59] <lazyPower> Dr_Willis: no input devices :P its a dummy box at present, i was setting up xbmc on it.
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> you could make a terminal/screen session on the remote box. and ssh into it and use screen to connet also
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> xbmc has a remote-control feaure. :)
[06:00] <lazyPower> indeed
[06:00] <lazyPower> however
[06:00] <lazyPower> its not running
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> My android phone can controll my xbmc pc.
[06:00] <lazyPower> thats my issue
[06:00] <lazyPower> i need to restart xbmc, and i didnt put it in the auto-start list
[06:00] <lazyPower> does xorg still read a .xinitrc?
[06:01] <megamanx1978> how do I change my login screen in gnome
[06:01] <lazyPower> i could just kill reboot the box and toss xbmc in the xinit
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> lazyPower:  err.. xbmc need to be ran after X is going...
[06:01] <DaPenguin> lazyPower, think it's like xorg.conf in that it'll still read it if it's there
[06:01] <mcurran> splash
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> lazyPower:  actually I think i noticed XBMC listed in the gdm sessions
[06:02] <lazyPower> Dr_Willis: Dr_Willis uhm, .xinitrc on the XFree86 legacy system that linux used back in the day was how you set your DE/WM
[06:02] <mymeatinyourseat> I heard the best way to destroy a CD is to put it in the microwave and the best way to destroy hdd data is to shread the hdd and melt it. and I've heard of derik's boot and nuke. is that a better hdd format than anything linux has or what OS is good on linux for destroying data?? ..like giving it 10 passes
[06:02] <lazyPower> Dr_Willis: thats why i'm thinking, if xorg has that legacy hook i could just drop that in the config.
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> lazyPower:  tjheres a speficic gdm session that does read the users .xinitrc BUT i think these days its actually .xsession thats used. not .xinitrc
[06:02] <mymeatinyourseat> dw, respond to me please
[06:02] <mymeatinyourseat> I heard the best way to destroy a CD is to put it in the microwave and the best way to destroy hdd data is to shread the hdd and melt it. and I've heard of derik's boot and nuke. is that a better hdd format than anything linux has or what OS is good on linux for destroying data?? ..like giving it 10 passes
[06:03] <lazyPower> ah ok
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> mymeatinyourseat:  perhaps if you used my actial nick i may notice it....
[06:03] <lazyPower> should have known ;)
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> lazyPower:  if you have a user set to autologin. there was a xbmc session int he gdm menus. that you could just select for them
[06:03] <s5fs> mymeatinyourseat: with most IRC clients, if you use the person's nickname, it highlights your message in some way, making it easier to see.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> !tab | mymeatinyourseat
[06:04] <bob__> not sure I can help mc\0vin ... never used GNS and only a very limited experience with Cpanel ... but it doesn't sound like the software is the issue ... you said you couldn't ping consecutive addresses ... are all 254 addresses on that /24 on the same subnet or have you further subnetted or otherwise seperated the nodes?
[06:04] <megamanx1978> How do I install Unity?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> !unity
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> !info unity
[06:05] <mymeatinyourseat> thanks, ub
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> be back in 10 min.. if im lucky
[06:06] <mymeatinyourseat> great. dw left the room
[06:06] <mymeatinyourseat> now who's gonna help me??
[06:06] <j5> anyone know how to transfer stuff from ubuntu to iPhone? anyone had any luck with ifuse itunnel??
[06:07] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, well, for erasing hdds you could look into cating /dev/null or /dev/urandom to the device
[06:08] <s5fs> j5: I tried about 3mo ago and wasn't able to get IOS 4.1 working. Haven't tried since.
[06:08] <bob__> sorry meat ... not an linux guru ... just a user myself ... now if you have a network issue ... especially subnetting ... let me know ... lol
[06:09] <s5fs> bob__: how's your v6 knowledge?
[06:09] <mymeatinyourseat> DaPenguin, sorry, on a scale of 1-10 I'm like a 6 with windows and a 3 or 4 with linux
[06:09] <mymeatinyourseat> DaPenguin, what is cating and all that other stuff
[06:09] <jiltdil> my applet of logout,shutdown etc suddenly dissappear now why it happend?
[06:10] <sagaci> mymeatinyourseat: concatenating?
[06:10] <bob__> like most of us ... not as good as it will need to be in the not so distant future ... which is why I'm back in school actually ... what's your question?
[06:10] <abahkaiyisah> goodafternoon
[06:11] <Schala> I noticed on the Ubuntu website it has 32-bit as recommended. I'm rather curious if that's also the case on 64-bit PCs too? My concern is if I were to install 32-bit, well... I have 6 GB of memory and with 32-bit software only using up to 4 GB... will I be leaving out 2 GB?
[06:11] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, ok sudo cat /dev/null > /dev/sd(x) where (x) is the drive letter will overwrite every byte on the drive with 0's. if you're looking for multiple passes just do it multiple times. or you can script it
[06:11] <leonxii> goodmorning
[06:11] <mymeatinyourseat> how do I highlight, right-click and copy in this X chat thing??
[06:11] <abahkaiyisah> can i run xubuntu 10.10 to Pentium II
[06:11] <s5fs> bob__: I'm in the same boat, just looking for someone who has made the transition in knowledge. I'm still making baby steps, still no practical application in my current work.
[06:11] <DaPenguin> abahkaiyisah, with a lightweight enough desktop, probably
[06:11] <sagaci> Schala: yes but the likelyhood that you'd actually use that extra 2GB is minimal
[06:11] <leonxii> pentium 2 with kde 4..??
[06:12] <sagaci> leonxii: doubt it
[06:12] <DaPenguin> abahkaiyisah, might want to check out lubuntu for that
[06:12] <abahkaiyisah> kde? i dont think so
[06:12] <sagaci> leonxii: #kubuntu
[06:12] <mymeatinyourseat> DaPenguin, what linux OS is the best for erasing??
[06:12] <Schala> Hmm.... alright. So there's no performance hit either I hope?
[06:12] <abahkaiyisah> lubuntu? ok, i'll check it out
[06:12] <leonxii> segaci me too
[06:12] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, any of them with a command line will do it effectively
[06:12] <mymeatinyourseat> DaPenguin, is it backtrac??
[06:13] <mymeatinyourseat> ..k
[06:13] <Loshki> Schala: I believe even the newer 32-bit kernels have addressing extensions (pae) that let you access more than 4GB so don't worry... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[06:13] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, backtrack probably has more tools by default, but just keep in mind it's ubuntu based anyway, so if you want a particular app chances are it's in the ubuntu repos anyway
[06:14] <bob__> well not a software issue for most of us ... all OSs on the Windows side after XPsp2 are v6 ready ... the only problem will be hardware ... cisco says all versions from v12 on are gtg ...
[06:14] <mymeatinyourseat> DaPis backtrack in the debian family??
[06:14] <Schala> oh wow very interesting.... Well if 32-bit PAE can do that, why use Ubuntu 64 at all?
[06:15] <bob__> redhat is also gtg ...
[06:15] <s5fs> Schala: PAE is an ugly hack.
[06:15] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, it's an ubuntu derivative, so yes :)
[06:15] <Schala> ah
[06:15] <s5fs> Schala: If you can run a 64-bit OS, go for it.
[06:16] <mymeatinyourseat> DaPenguin, so ANY linux OS is better than dirk's boot and nook
[06:16] <Loshki> mymeatinyourseat: can I ask what you're erasing, and how badly you need to hide it?
[06:16] <Schala> Well I guess I can pick up a few blank DVDs tomorrow.... I rather ignorantly burned Ubuntu 32 to my last blank DVD some time ago.
[06:16] <s5fs> Schala: Truth is, unless you're regularly using boatloads of ram, you probably won't notice the difference between 32 and 64. I tend to run 64bit myself.
[06:16] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, i've got zero idea what that is lol
[06:16] <s5fs> Schala: you may be able to create a bootable usb thumbdrive, I rarely burn dvds now.
[06:17] <bob__> the real v6 issues will be on the smaller and older systems ... including home routers ... they are too small and dumb to be upgradeable so will need to be replaced
[06:17] <Loshki> Schala: Also, IMO, quality/stability in the 64-bit builds lags behind the 32-bit builds...
[06:17] <mymeatinyourseat> Loshki, just currious about comps
[06:17] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, the thing about linux is all flavors are pretty much cross compatible, so any app you can get on one you can get on another most of the time
[06:17] <Schala> hmm..... the only external devices I have are a 2 GB SD card and an external 2 TB drive which proved to be very slow at running Ubuntu on in the past
[06:17] <s5fs> bob__: Agreed, but I honestly don't see much reason for small home networks to conver to v6, v4 and nat works fine. I think it'll be a while before that trend goes away.
[06:18] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, it's even possible to install rpms on debian distros lol
[06:18] <mymeatinyourseat> DaPenguin, thanks for the info
[06:18] <bob__> agreed ...
[06:18] <Loshki> mymeatinyourseat: most of us are more worried about how to keep our disks and cd's readable :-)
[06:18] <s5fs> Schala: I guess'll need DVDs then, sorry.
[06:19] <mymeatinyourseat> DaPenguin, yeah, 'cause debian is the parrent to redhat and ubuntu
[06:19] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, not redhat, no
[06:19] <sacarlson> Schala: you can also boot direct from an iso with an added custom grub2 entry
[06:19] <Schala> My dad also has a few 300 GB drives, but they are around 10 years old. I'm rather concerned about using a 10 year old drive on a computer I just bought in November
[06:19] <Schala> oooh
[06:20] <s5fs> bob__: Until there is a "killer app" for v6 I think the uptake is going to be glacial. Even still, I think it's time to set up a lab.
[06:20] <SightUp> is there a ubuntu 64bit version for laptops?
[06:20] <mymeatinyourseat> DaPenguin, then why when I get stuff from the apt get whatever the hell it's called.. it ends with a .rpm
[06:20] <ayecee> SightUp: yes, it's the same one for 64bit desktops
[06:20] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, these days you've got 2 main forks of linux distros, rpm based and debian based, with a few extras like arch, slack, and source style distros
[06:20] <bob__> lol ... I'm working on that issue myself ...
[06:20] <SightUp> why would they make two? and then have a notebook one?
[06:20] <SightUp> i just wasted my life lo
[06:20] <SightUp> lol
[06:20] <Evanescence> how can I install urxvt-url-select under ubuntu, this package is one in Archlinux .
[06:21] <s5fs> SightUp: do you mean "netbook"?
[06:21] <Schala> any instructions for grub2? I'm guessing I'll need to take some instructions down
[06:21] <ayecee> Evanescence: what happens when you try?
[06:21] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, usually apt is going to pull .deb files...
[06:21] <rww> SightUp: Ubuntu Netbook Edition doesn't have a 64-bit ISO.
[06:21] <SightUp> oh did i install the netbook ed?
[06:21] <mymeatinyourseat> Evanescence, amy lee is HOT!!
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> theres very few 64bit netbooks...
[06:21] <s5fs> SightUp: lol, you very well may have :-D
[06:21] <rww> SightUp: I don't know, did you :\?
[06:21] <Evanescence> ayecee: I can not search this package
[06:21] <Evanescence> mymeatinyourseat: ??
[06:22] <SightUp> arg how can i check?
[06:22] <sacarlson> Schala: to do what with grub2?
[06:22] <ayecee> Evanescence: what does that package do?
[06:22] <Schala> I mean, I just got the AMD64 ISO, but viewing the contents just proves to be rather confusing.
[06:22] <rww> SightUp: take a screenshot, upload to http://imagebin.org/
[06:22] <Evanescence> ayecee: one package let urxvt can click url in terminal
[06:22] <SightUp> whats the screenshot button on linux?
[06:22] <SightUp> print screen?
[06:22] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, my EEE 1005PE is 64bit - i don't notice much advantage with only 1G RAM though
[06:23] <DaPenguin> SightUp, depends on the screenshot app, but usually prtscrn
[06:23] <xt3mp0r> SightUp: yes
[06:23] <Schala> install 64-bit Ubuntu? I'm thinking if it's possible to boot up with my older 32-bit DVD burned copy from CD and install 64-bit from ISO
[06:23] <SightUp> i dont even have a print screen key
[06:23] <bob__> <---- knows from personal experience that OSX will run on at least one Dell netbook model ... lol
[06:23] <ayecee> Evanescence: it appears theere's no corresponding package in ubuntu. If the stock rxvt package doesn't allow url clicking, there doesn't seem to be a way to change that
[06:23] <v_v> :L
[06:23] <xt3mp0r> :3
[06:23] <Polah> With Mysql, does hello.world denote hello as the machine mysql is on and world as the database name?
[06:23] <sacarlson> Schala: not sure this what you want: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604
[06:24] <DaPenguin> Evanescence, you could try an alternative terminal app
[06:24] <v_v> SightUp: get a scrot
[06:24] <Evanescence> ayecee: maybe the urxvt package in ubuntu already include this small package when i install it .
[06:24] <v_v> !scrot
[06:24] <ayecee> Evanescence: it very well could be. give it a try.
[06:24] <Evanescence> DaPenguin: I know, but I like it ,
[06:24] <Evanescence> ayecee: ok
[06:24] <Schala> hmm... it says I need a flash drive with Ubuntu.... will a DVD with Ubuntu burned on it work instead?
[06:25] <leonxii> SightUp try scrot
[06:25] <sacarlson> Schala: I've used the same to boot from hard disk
[06:25] <SightUp> im trying to get my connection working
[06:25] <SightUp> it just died
[06:25] <mymeatinyourseat> DaPenguin, tell me again please. when I go to the synaptic package manager, what is the name of the file or software I need to look for for hdd erasing??
[06:25] <Schala> hmm...ok
[06:26] <sacarlson> Schala: all you need is the iso file on a hard disk and the grub entry on your boot disk
[06:26] <pinecone> s
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> mymeatinyourseat:  theres numerous secure deletion tools out there. it depends on how paranoid you are and the time you want to spend.
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> !info dban
[06:27] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, there's probably a couple that do it, i always just handle stuff like that from the terminal
[06:27] <sacarlson> Schala: the hard part can be if you need to repartition the disk if you have only a single drive to work from it won't like to repartiton what it runs from
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. i was thinking dban was one.
[06:27] <s5fs> sacarlson: that sounds pretty ninja man
[06:27] <SightUp> where did that screenshot save to?
[06:27] <sacarlson> s5fs: it's the only way to go 10 times faster install
[06:27] <s5fs> sacarlson: ah, that was my next question. so you probabaly want to make a "utility" partition and stash the ISO there, right?
[06:27] <mymeatinyourseat> DaPenguin, I'm nowhere near advanced enough to even begin using the terminal
[06:27] <Schala> Hmm..... ok I just skimmed over this thread and.... I think I can wait til tomorrow. These instructions seem overwhelming
[06:28] <DaPenguin> SightUp, probably somewhere in your home dir
[06:28] <v_v> SightUp: pwd
[06:28] <SightUp> its uploading
[06:28] <soreau> mymeatinyourseat: terminal is easier
[06:28] <s5fs> sacarlson: oh man, no doubt. i just upgraded my hdd recently, so i just happen to have an extra drive laying around. i may give that a try just for giggles.
[06:28] <Schala> oh, one last thing
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> s5fs:  I keep a large /boot/ partitin these days  that i store several iso files in. that i let grub2 boot as rescue options
[06:28] <soreau> ! dd | mymeatinyourseat
[06:28] <SightUp> http://imagebin.org/145127
[06:28] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, it's really not a s bad as everyone seems to think lol
[06:28] <SightUp> is that netbook?
[06:28] <sacarlson> s5fs: I keep a spare partition for that purpuse
[06:28] <soreau> !info dd | mymeatinyourseat
[06:29] <soreau> fail.
[06:29] <rww> dd's part of coreutils, I think
[06:29] <Schala> Is Natty coming out anytime soon? I'm just wondering if I should wait til it's out first before installing.
[06:29] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, of course i grew up on DOS before i ever touched windows, so I may be a bit biased lol
[06:29] <rww> !schedule-#ubuntu+1 | Schala
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> You are typing in irc.. you can use the terminal...
[06:29] <rww> SightUp: yes
[06:29] <Schala> ah thanks
[06:29] <SightUp> so i failed? :/
[06:29] <mymeatinyourseat> ubottu, ..so wait for 11 to come out..??
[06:29] <leonxii> SighUp: Home dir i think in screensht
[06:29] <v_v> haha
[06:29] <SightUp> i just posted the screenshot
[06:30] <SightUp> arg, i wasted my life.
[06:30] <SightUp> downloading 64bit now.
[06:30] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, and with tab completion you don't even have to be able to spell anymore lol
[06:31] <sacarlson> Schala: you can download and install verson 11 today and install it and just upgrade when they release it
[06:31] <Schala> hmm.... ok... looks good....... I just hope GCC 4.6 comes with it. ObjC 2, Go, and C++0x support has me drooling
[06:31] <SightUp> so the desktop version works with laptops eh?
[06:32] <mymeatinyourseat> DaPenguin, cool. my cuz was using those phone modem thingies back in the day too. he said there was no internet and u could only connect to one person at a time and u had to .."type your commands in"..??
[06:32] <DaPenguin> SightUp, i hope so, since it's what i'm running right now lol
[06:32] <mymeatinyourseat> THANK GOD FOR BILL GATES
[06:32] <SightUp> i wasted 6 hours of my life. :(
[06:32] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, you mean thank god for xerox ;)
[06:32] <leonxii> something offtopic but i cant resist not to say....unity desktop is rubbish...end of story
[06:32] <rww> SightUp: They have the same hardware requirements. The only difference is the user interface.
[06:32] <SightUp> and 64bit support
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> leonxii:  :)  I just upgraded to 11.04 its rather.. minmal
[06:33] <mymeatinyourseat> DaPenguin, who owns xerox
[06:33] <Schala> Yeah I rather facepalmed seeing the new IE9.........allergic to menu bars and stuff
[06:33] <rww> SightUp: you can get ubuntu-netbook packages on 64-bit Ubuntu. Just not an ISO.
[06:33] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, uh, xerox...
[06:33] <jkb11> hi
[06:33] <SightUp> i am already burning the 64bit version
[06:33] <SightUp> it installs much faster than windows
[06:33] <SightUp> its fine.
[06:33] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, the original windows gui was ripped off from them :)
[06:34] <Schala> one thing I won't miss is the paranoia that comes with activation
[06:34] <abahkaiyisah> can Xubuntu Running on Pentium III 128 ?
[06:34] <astropirate> Has anyone managed to get a Global Menu system working with gnome-shell?
[06:34] <Schala> having to call M$ every time I reinstall Windows
[06:34] <leonxii> Dr_Willis: Haven't tried 11.04 but...from what i've seen...gnome all the way...seriously..:P
[06:34] <spyzer> hi all, when i press F5 key on keyboard a screen refresh occurs normally in nautilus, is there some command which that key is bound to. If yes. kindly tell....
[06:34] <DaPenguin> abahkaiyisah, yeah, should work ok on that
[06:34] <SightUp> what is Xubuntu?
[06:34] <abahkaiyisah> thanks DaPenguin
[06:35] <mymeatinyourseat> DaPenguin, yeah, and my cusion says billy g even uses some linux stuff to make windows programs
[06:35] <DaPenguin> SightUp, ubuntu that uses xfce instead of gnome as it's default de
[06:35] <jkb11> does anyone know anyone solution to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/595773 ?
[06:35] <Schala> Xfice (or something) as the desktop instead of Gnome
[06:35] <ZykoticK9> SightUp, Xubuntu is XFCE D.E.
[06:35] <spyzer> hi all, when i press F5 key on keyboard a screen refresh occurs normally in nautilus, is there some command which that key is bound to. If yes. kindly tell....
[06:35] <SightUp> does it make a difference?
[06:35] <Schala> So with Natty, I take it there'll be a new Gubuntu edition or something?
[06:35] <ZykoticK9> SightUp, XFCE != Gnome or KDE for that matter - they are different desktop environments
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> leonxii:    the old unity is basically been revamped.. but we will see what happens after 11.04 comes out
[06:36] <Schala> since Gnome won't be used as the default anymore?
[06:36] <DaPenguin> SightUp, depends on what you prefer, xfce is more lightweight than gnome. you can actually try it out by installing xubuntu-desktop in vanilla ubuntu
[06:36] <SightUp> desktop environments? can't that be changed on either one?
[06:36] <jkb11> so
[06:36] <jkb11> anyone know of that ^ ? :-)
[06:36] <jkb11> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/595773
[06:36] <jkb11> ^ yeah that
[06:37] <leonxii> Dr_Willis: Hopefully something good..:)
[06:37] <DaPenguin> personally i bounce back and forth between kde and flux depending on how I'm feeling at the time lol
[06:37] <Schala> KDE looks okay but my experience with Qt is....ew
[06:37] <DaPenguin> meh, i just really don't care for gnome is all
[06:37] <jkb11> any Xorg gurus around?
[06:37] <pnorman> I'm installing a new hard drive on my server, was following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive but on the sudo lshw -C disk step I get no results, not even for my existing disks. How can I see what logical name my disk has?
[06:38] <DaPenguin> pnorman, you can pull up gparted
[06:39] <pnorman> DaPenguin: that depends on x11, which I don't have
[06:39] <SightUp> what theme is the sexiest looking?
[06:39] <ZykoticK9> pnorman, "sudo blkid"?
[06:39] <Schala> well... I guess I'll probably kill some time on WoW until I feel tired....... best way to speed up time til morning
[06:39] <DaPenguin> SightUp, depends on what you like
[06:39] <SightUp> gloss, blue stuff.
[06:39] <SightUp> that's all
[06:39] <DaPenguin> Schala, ugh, i finally quit playing that...again...lol
[06:40] <hiexpo> SightUp, gnomelook.org
[06:40] <Schala> I go on and off myself
[06:40] <umbunt> if im running a duel boot system winxp/bunt 10-64 can i easily epunge  and swap for the 32-bit version or would thi be complicated .I knoe it will take some part and format  or what ever but when i go to install the other will it be a problem?
[06:40] <Schala> most recently I just play 1-3 hours a day
[06:40] <Schala> and that's only cause I'm leveling... at 85 it'll be probably an hour tops
[06:40] <d4lt3r> how can i install bt4 on hard disk and use dual boot
[06:40] <Abhijit> umbunt, you can delete current ubuntu and install new 32 ubuntu or you keep current two os xp and ubuntu 64 and can install third 32 ubuntu
[06:40] <jrtayloriv> umbunt, You can easily wipe out the old Ubuntu install. During the installation process, just reformat the ubuntu partition
[06:41] <mymeatinyourseat> DaPenguin, I have more Qs please
[06:41] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, ok, shoot
[06:41] <hiexpo> d4lt3r, | backtrack
[06:41] <bob__> ok ... since someone said the W word .... I'm just going to add my 2 cents worth .... EQ rules
[06:41] <d4lt3r> quit()
[06:41] <motaka2> each time I wanna run a soft I have to cd to the dir where a .sh file exists and then run ./dbschema.sh in terminal , how can I make a shortcut for that ?
[06:42] <DaPenguin> motaka2, man ln
[06:42] <leonxii> dont you like the terminal...its sweeeet!
[06:42] <ZykoticK9> motaka2, add the directory to your path or use the absolute path in your terminal
[06:42] <d4lt3r> quit(quit: Leaving);
[06:42] <rww> d4lt3r: /quit
[06:42] <umbunt> bassiclyy can i get ridi think i just want to get rid of 64 it doesnt seem to like my configuratin on this old k8 athlon 64
[06:42] <aaron_> why is my computer running slow fresh install
[06:42] <v_v> :)
[06:42] <mymeatinyourseat> DaPenguin, so NOT using the terminal, 'cause I hate it. I like user-friendliness like windows. a few clicks of the mouse and windows does all the packaging and building for u
[06:42] <needlez> ok, so I have a little issue, plymouth is showing graphic on startup, however when closing out I can see the plymouth screen no problem. The screen was changed using plymouth manager, and I have tried to use the script to fix the screen resolution with nvidia cards already with no luck. Also sometimes it breaks grub-pc so I have to remove grup completely and reload it, wonder if that could be the cause of this issue. Any help
[06:42] <needlez> thanx
[06:43] <jrtayloriv> umbunt, What is the problem you are having?
[06:43] <needlez> isnt**
[06:43] <pnorman> ZykoticK9: Not reporting it - does blkid show partitions only, or will it show an unpartitioned drive?
[06:43] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, ok, what are you wanting to do?
[06:43] <jrtayloriv> umbunt, You probably don't need to switch to the 32-bit version
[06:43] <needlez> ok, so I have a little issue, plymouth isn't showing graphic on startup, however when closing out I can see the plymouth screen no problem. The screen was changed using plymouth manager, and I have tried to use the script to fix the screen resolution with nvidia cards already with no luck. Also sometimes it breaks grub-pc so I have to remove grup completely and reload it, wonder if that could be the cause of this issue. Any he
[06:43] <needlez> lp thanx
[06:43] <mymeatinyourseat> DaPenguin, so, not using the terminal.. what program do I look for in synaptic package manager to erase HDDs
[06:43] <d4lt3r> ?quit
[06:44] <ZykoticK9> pnorman, only formatted partitions.  you could use "sudo fdisk -l" to list all partitions perhaps
[06:44] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, give me just a second
[06:44] <hiexpo> dban
[06:45] <aaron_> mymeatinyourseat, Gparted
[06:45] <umbunt> random freezes during flash and all that mumbo jumbo went ahead and did the gksudo naut  thing with the 64 bit flash player but it does same crap pluss other stuff
[06:45] <mymeatinyourseat> DaPenguin, that would be freakin' cool if I had the program of what the national security or the FBI or CIA uses
[06:46] <mymeatinyourseat> DaPenguin, ty
[06:46] <aaron_> mymeatinyourseat, for that you might try searching symantec disk wipe, or kill disk
[06:47] <mymeatinyourseat> aaron_, dw and kd SUCK
[06:47] <leonxii> I am sure FBI uses google....so we all...the goals are different...the tools the same...:P
[06:47] <umbunt> its 64 bit processor but its old and tech passed it by and also its a budget machine
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> Hmm..
[06:47] <Dark_Link> i have a problim with xubuntu i have a nfs partition and its not showing up in places
[06:47] <mymeatinyourseat> I've heard of them before and I've tried kd
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> Dark_Link:  you mean a NTFS partition? add an entry for it to /etc/fstab
[06:48] <needlez> mymeatinyourseat: dban?
[06:48] <Dark_Link> let me go look
[06:48] <aaron_> when i watch flash video on a website it's very choppy, how can i fix it
[06:48] <hiexpo> dban is not in the repos sorry
[06:48] <ZykoticK9> Dark_Link, if you really mean nfs I've only seen a GUI app on Xandros' origional EEE - I've always had to manually mount NFS :(
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> I think theres ppa's for dban
[06:49] <hiexpo> Dr_Willis, yep
[06:49] <DaPenguin> yeah, so far all i'
[06:49] <Dark_Link> but i have it entered
[06:49] <Dark_Link> and i rebooted
[06:49] <Dark_Link> UUID=86D44E83D44E7609 /media/Data ntfs-3g users 0 0
[06:49] <DaPenguin> m seeing is dban as far as gui clean apps go
[06:49] <pnorman>
[06:49] <umbunt> aaron that maybee the pop driver sugested by bun
[06:49] <Dark_Link> its mounted
[06:49] <Dark_Link> but its not showing up
[06:49] <DaPenguin> and woot for premature \n lol
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> Dark_Link:  but you can access /media/Data from the file manager?
[06:50] <umbunt> amd cards just dont seem to jive with bunt
[06:50] <mymeatinyourseat> DaPenguin, now what's the best linux program for file recovery?? I've tried grc but it's not upgraded since 2006 and it sucks
[06:50] <Dark_Link> i cant see it unless i try to access it via partition edditer
[06:50] <hiexpo> or you could use wipe mymeatinyourseat i think it's in the repos
[06:50] <Dark_Link> or mount maniger
[06:51] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, that i really can't tell you. never actually had a need for it
[06:51] <Abhijit> mymeatinyourseat, testdisk and photorec
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> Dark_Link:  so its not mounted by default you are saying?
[06:51] <umbunt> radeon seems to alwase have a problem but then again so does nvid
[06:51] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, i'm a backup whore lol
[06:51] <mymeatinyourseat> Abhijit, ty
[06:51] <Dark_Link> i try mounting it manualy
[06:51] <ZykoticK9> mymeatinyourseat, check out testdisk and photorec - file recovery on ext3/4 might be close to impossible however
[06:51] <Dark_Link> but nuthing happened
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> Dark_Link:  is it now showing files in /media/Data ? or are you just baseing this all on whats  showing uop in the placwes  menu>?
[06:52] <Dark_Link> nop
[06:52] <Dark_Link> let me look again
[06:52] <needlez> ok, so I have a little issue, plymouth isn't showing graphic on startup, however when closing out I can see the plymouth screen no problem. The screen was changed using plymouth manager, and I have tried to use the script to fix the screen resolution with nvidia cards already with no luck. Also sometimes it breaks grub-pc so I have to remove grup completely and reload it, wonder if that could be the cause of this issue. Any he
[06:52] <needlez> lp thanx
[06:52] <aaron_> umbunt, i just installed this but i noticed that it is running slow even standard apps
[06:53] <Dark_Link> oh i see Dr_Willis
[06:53] <laurus> I'm having a really weird bug: Epiphany is unable to load http://debian.org on startup. Any ideas?
[06:53] <Dark_Link> tx for your help :)
[06:53] <rajvi> my sis on ubuntu machine so i m using a guest comp.. on web chat
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> needlez:  personally.. i just disable plymnouth.. but that shouldnet be breaking grub at all.
[06:53] <umbunt> all propitary drivers have issues unless you figure it out
[06:53] <Dark_Link> btw on 11.0.4 ubuntu you cant build the kernal
[06:54] <Dark_Link> and its missing the verson.h
[06:54] <bornpilot> how does one change the computer name in ubuntu?
[06:54] <leonxii> Dark_Link Tell me you even ever tried that..?:P
[06:54] <DaPenguin> Dark_Link, maybe not from the repos...
[06:54] <ftjla> I installed the updates and restarted but now it wont boot back into ubuntu?? 10.10
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> !hostname
[06:54] <Dark_Link> yes i have Lenin_Cat
[06:54] <Dark_Link> leonxii,
[06:54] <ftjla> can someone help
[06:54] <bornpilot> thanks
[06:55] <umbunt> its like my radeon worked perfect in 32 bit but 64 well thats another story its funny everything seems to be working fine and than BAM!
[06:55] <Dark_Link> i tryed to recompile cause it was missing the verson.h file i needed to compile vmware
[06:55] <Uldics> Could anyone explain, why I got Lirc error (lircd: can't open or create /var/run/lirc/lircd.pid), when I run: sudo lircd --driver=audio_alsa -d hw@48000 ?
[06:55] <Dark_Link> lol failed
[06:55] <Abhijit> ftjla, does it give any error?
[06:55] <Dark_Link> made a default config file cause it was missing
[06:55] <DaPenguin> umbunt, that's cause fglrx is a piece of junk lol
[06:55] <Dark_Link> and then i got a class link err
[06:55] <Dark_Link> lol
[06:55] <rajvi> is lsb-core is also important to run wine apllications
[06:55] <umbunt> TRUE
[06:55] <needlez> any one any ideas??
[06:56] <rajvi> no
[06:56] <DaPenguin> umbunt, trust me, this lappy has an ati card on it, i feel your pain
[06:56] <ZykoticK9> Uldics, what does lircd have to do with audio?  lircd is Linux Infra-Red?
[06:56] <Uldics> yes, it has to do - I have a simplest receiver through audio cared
[06:56] <Uldics> card
[06:56] <DaPenguin> umbunt, thank ati for their horrible nix support on that one
[06:56] <ZykoticK9> Uldics, ahh gotcha.  Good luck.
[06:57] <ftjla> after grub the ubuntu splash stats and i get a few lines kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init!
[06:57] <umbunt> i'll be sure to do that and i will send them yer regards
[06:57] <DaPenguin> umbunt, lol
[06:58] <umbunt> any way it is what it is
[06:58] <DaPenguin> umbunt, the nvidia proprietry drivers are pretty good, just the ati ones that really have issues
[06:58] <leonxii> true
[06:59] <umbunt> they both have issus but nv is much better for linux
[06:59] <ftjla> abhijit a also tried to boot into the older kernel and I got the same message
[07:00] <Abhijit> ftjla, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/kernel-panic-on-maverick-842569/
[07:00] <Dark_Link> is there hardware acceleration for the intel gma 950 drivers yet?
[07:00] <Dark_Link> for 3d and such
[07:00] <needlez> ok, so I have a little issue, plymouth is showing graphic on startup, however when closing out I can see the plymouth screen no problem. The screen was changed using plymouth manager, and I have tried to use the script to fix the screen resolution with nvidia cards already with no luck. Also sometimes it breaks grub-pc so I have to remove grup completely and reload it, wonder if that could be the cause of this issue. Any help
[07:00] <rajvi> on ubuntu 10.10 via wubi not able to change boot screen
[07:01] <c4pt> hello i have a strange problem i am trying to run compiz with nouveau 3d drivers and ive built mesa libdrm and dri2proto but the problem is i accidentally deleted the glx module from /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions and now i can not figure out how to replace the glx file that was there if i could replace the glx file there then maybe aiglx and glx would load for compiz rendering can anyone help me out with a suggestion to what i should do t
[07:01] <c4pt> o fix this?
[07:01] <umbunt> actually it matters what card it is and i've learned that the cheap shit on amazon isnt alwase worth it
[07:01] <needlez> ok, so I have a little issue, plymouth isn't showing graphic on startup, however when closing out I can see the plymouth screen no problem. The screen was changed using plymouth manager, and I have tried to use the script to fix the screen resolution with nvidia cards already with no luck. Also sometimes it breaks grub-pc so I have to remove grup completely and reload it, wonder if that could be the cause of this issue
[07:01] <c4pt> with -noabi true
[07:02] <umbunt> but 29.99 hey its worth a shot right?
[07:02] <leonxii> Dark_Link I've tried ubuntu studio on a laptop with this card...its working great.
[07:03] <mymeatinyourseat> how come the synaptic package manager doesn't have the latest driver for my nvidia gfroce 9800gt graphics card??
[07:03] <n2i> Hi everyone!
[07:03] <n2i> I have two problem with my font on Lucid, please help!
[07:03] <ayecee> two problems!
[07:03] <umbunt> dont buy the VTX RADEON HD 3450 its crap
[07:03] <n2i> ayecee: yes!
[07:04] <ayecee> i'm sorry, we can only help people with one problem!
[07:04] <n2i> you are jocking?!
[07:04] <Abhijit> n2i, just go ahead and ask in one line with details and provide links.
[07:04] <umbunt> 0h the perk 512 mb
[07:04] <Dark_Link> hmm Leonxii on a netbook its a diferent story
[07:04] <n2i> 1st: http://www.imagesk.com/VTghqIU6.png
[07:05] <Dark_Link> windows runs way beter than a ubuntu install
[07:05] <umbunt> it has plenty of horse power if yo got lots og room and an extra molex
[07:05] <leonxii> Dark_Link probably its the 945-950 confusion going on..
[07:05] <n2i> The 1st problem was showed on above pics
[07:05] <Dark_Link> i have the gma 945 lol
[07:06] <c4pt> can anyone recommend how i can replace the file for glx in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions?
[07:06] <umbunt> pluss another bad thing is it really only likes windows macines
[07:06] <c4pt> i mean /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/
[07:06] <Dark_Link> naa it just needs graphix card accell
[07:06] <n2i> Fonts on desktop apps and on browser is very differences
[07:06] <Dark_Link> why it runs so well on windows
[07:07] <Dark_Link> klinux drivers are incomplete
[07:07] <Dark_Link> linux
[07:07] <ayecee> n2i: what'st he problem? it's hard to tell for an english-only speaker.
[07:07] <umbunt> gigantic noisy extra molex hogging pice of 29.99 512mmb pice of crap
[07:08] <bazhang> !ot | umbunt
[07:08] <jo-erlend> n2i: websites cannot use fonts the same way local applications can. Hopefully, this will be possible in the next few years.
[07:08] <n2i> ayecee: I set Ubuntu font on both of desktop apps such as pidgin and on browser such as ff
[07:08] <Dark_Link> jo-erlend, problim is why use local fonts
[07:08] <n2i> jo-erlend: so, is there any way to fix it now?
[07:09] <jo-erlend> n2i: no, the web doesn't support it yet.
[07:09] <Dark_Link> and probly never will
[07:09] <Dark_Link> its slow
[07:09] <leonxii> Dark_Link what linux did you use with the 945..?
[07:09] <jo-erlend> Dark_Link: it will. Firefox 4 supports it now, I think.
[07:09] <n2i> jo-erlend: but on whe web, font display Vietnamese characeters is very well
[07:10] <Dark_Link> leonxii iv tryed just about all
[07:10] <Dark_Link> ubuntu arch which i built
[07:10] <mymeatinyourseat> howcome if there r soo many peeps in this room, the massages aren't flying up the screen??
[07:10] <jo-erlend> n2i: right, but only for a predefined set of fonts. You cannot introduce new fonts. They have to already be available on the client machine.
[07:10] <n2i> but no in pidgin or other any desktop apps
[07:10] <leonxii> Dark_Link there is a possibility that 10.04 should work...not sure though
[07:10] <Dark_Link> all of the ubuntu flavers
[07:10] <n2i> http://www.imagesk.com/fUoSKW3b.png
[07:10] <jo-erlend> n2i: completely different things, as I said. The web doesn't support it yet. Local applications do.
[07:10] <needlez> ok, so I have a little issue, plymouth isn't showing graphic on startup, however when closing out I can see the plymouth screen no problem. The screen was changed using plymouth manager, and I have tried to use the script to fix the screen resolution with nvidia cards already with no luck. Also sometimes it breaks grub-pc so I have to remove grup completely and reload it, wonder if that could be the cause of this issue
[07:10] <Dark_Link> i herd about them being fixed
[07:11] <Dark_Link> make me wonder why its not working fine on 10.10 tho
[07:12] <Dark_Link> n2i thats what image jps are for
[07:12] <mymeatinyourseat> so if there's an ubuntu 10.04 and 10.10, is 10.10 kind of like a 10.04 with service pack 2??
[07:12] <Dark_Link> jepeg
[07:12] <ubotu> type !help for more information
[07:12] <umbunt> is ther a way to make sure the image file you download is not corrupted say if you wer downloading music at the same time
[07:12] <mymeatinyourseat> *err, sp!??
[07:12] <Dark_Link> or png
[07:12] <n2i> jo-erlend: okay. And now, how I make ubuntu font on pidgin (and other desktop apps) to displays the Vietnamese characters very well?
[07:12] <ubotu> I am a bot programmed not to know I am a bot
[07:12] <mymeatinyourseat> sp1
[07:12] <Dark_Link> its to display custom fonts on the web
[07:12] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, not exactly, ubuntu does a major update every 6 months
[07:12] <ubotu> please see /topic
[07:12] <n2i> Dark_Link: that is the 2nd problem
[07:12] <bazhang> ubotu stop that
[07:12] <jo-erlend> mymeatinyourseat: no, 10.04.2 is a "Sp2". 10.10 is a new version of the operating system.
[07:13] <n2i> font is so blur
[07:13] <ubotu> pipe redirect /dev/null to /dev/dsp
[07:13] <n2i> I cannot fix it
[07:13] <n2i> *too
[07:13] <Dark_Link> oh
[07:13] <n2i> I have set subpixel + hintslight + rgb
[07:13] <Dark_Link> on what browser/
[07:14] <Dark_Link> ?
[07:14] <n2i> but like you have seens on some above pics
[07:14] <jo-erlend> n2i: I don't know if that font supports vietnamese. I also don't know that it doesn't. I'm sure others do. Specially in the vietnamese channel, have you asked there?
[07:14] <n2i> font is very blut
[07:14] <mymeatinyourseat> what?? how r they supposed to make any good ubuntu's if the keep coming out with them so frequently??
[07:14] <Dark_Link> repost images i wasnt looking
[07:14] <n2i> jo-erlend, Dark_Link on the web, everything is very well
[07:14] <bazhang> mymeatinyourseat, lets take chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:15] <mymeatinyourseat> they need to wait 4 years like windows and battlefield 3
[07:15] <n2i> it has whowed here http://www.imagesk.com/VTghqIU6.png
[07:15] <n2i> very cool!
[07:15] <Dark_Link> hmm n2i it could be your res or webrowser
[07:16] <mymeatinyourseat> not come out with a new version every six months like megaman and sonic
[07:16] <Dark_Link> oh thats a international problim
[07:16] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, might want to take this discussion over to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:17] <bazhang> mymeatinyourseat, please chat where I've asked ---> #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[07:17] <DaPenguin> mymeatinyourseat, this channel's more for tech issues than software philosophy :)
[07:17] <jo-erlend> n2i: have you confirmed that the ubuntu font supports vietnamese?
[07:17] <n2i> Dark_Link: :-/ And what the differences between font displays on the brower and on the desktop apps?
[07:17] <n2i> how to make font on desktop apps displays as on the browser?
[07:17] <Dark_Link> oh destop apps
[07:17] <n2i> jo-erlend: I dont know more! :(
[07:18] <Dark_Link> you just need fo find a beter font :/
[07:18] <ftjla> I have a kernel panic and I cant boot my machine beyond that....It seems to occur after mounting my drive partition... I get a message saying there is a deleted inode reference ...and then the panic occurs....ubuntu 10.10 kernel 2.6.35-28
[07:18] <Dark_Link> as ubuntus built is has issues
[07:18] <n2i> but on the web it displays Vietnamese character is very cool!
[07:18] <n2i> Dark_Link: yes, desktop apps with gtk themes on GNOME
[07:18] <jo-erlend> n2i: ... I've been trying to tell you that that's a completely different matter.
[07:19] <mymeatinyourseat> why? can u get booted in here if u say something like bill gates is gonna ass-rape linus torvalds
[07:19] <Dark_Link> n21 try to find a custom font for ubuntu that looks good for your charaters
[07:19] <jo-erlend> mymeatinyourseat: please stop this. People are trying to get help, and we're trying to help.
[07:19] <DaPenguin> ftjla, ok, do you have the original live-cd you can boot into?
[07:19] <ruan> yes you can
[07:19] <n2i> jo-erlend: yes, i see! I am sorry!
[07:19] <motaka2> hello when I run the terminal it doesnt open up properly , what the problem is?
[07:19] <n2i> Dark_Link: okay!
[07:19] <leonxii> mymeatinyourseat keep it smooth;)
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> motaka2:  clarify what you mean.
[07:20] <Dark_Link> should do wonders :)
[07:20] <n2i> And now, this is the 2nd problem!
[07:20] <jo-erlend> n2i: this should be a common issue for all vietnamese though... Have you asked in the local channel?
[07:20] <din> haha bazhang ftw.
[07:20] <n2i> Font is so blur
[07:20] <n2i> jo-erlend: yes, I have!
[07:20] <Dark_Link> get a new font file ment for your lanuage
[07:20] <jo-erlend> n2i: all text is blurred?
[07:21] <DaPenguin> could be an anti-aliasing problem...
[07:21] <ftjla> DaPenguin: not the saem distro but I do have other live cds
[07:21] <jo-erlend> DaPenguin: could be an incorrect resolution setting too.
[07:21] <n2i> jo-erlend: yes
[07:22] <Dark_Link> but n2i you said its fine via webrowser
[07:22] <n2i> jo-erlend: Althought I have set like this http://www.imagesk.com/qkiKGBzM.png
[07:22] <DaPenguin> ftjla, could be an issue with the grub install or a bad hdd
[07:22] <jo-erlend> Dark_Link: no, I asked him. All text is blurred.
[07:22] <ftjla> DaPenguin, I jest need to get my data files before Monday
[07:22] <Dark_Link> oh
[07:22] <n2i> Dark_Link: Yes, on web browser there isnot 1st problem!
[07:23] <jo-erlend> n2i: right. If you look in Applications > Monitors; what resolution is your screen configured to use?
[07:23] <DaPenguin> ftjla, ok, see if you can boot from a live cd and mount the partition
[07:23] <ftjla> DaPenguin, running another lived distro I can see my home directory but cant access it via the live cd?
[07:23] <n2i> jo-erlend: 1280x800 60hz
[07:23] <nicolaus>  who can give me a name of a program that can comfile C codes
[07:23] <nicolaus> ?
[07:23] <Abhijit> nicolaus, gcc
[07:24] <truepurple> Would someone please help me with this error? http://pastebin.com/H3qQumvG
[07:24] <n2i> that is the best resolution fot my monitor
[07:24] <jo-erlend> n2i: is that a good resolution for your screen, do you know? Sometimes, if you use a wrong setting, the screen becomes blurred.
[07:24] <DaPenguin> ftjla, what do you mean you can't access it?
[07:24] <n2i> jo-erlend: so, How I have to setting now?
[07:25] <jo-erlend> n2i: I don't know. If that resolution is good for your screen, then that's not the issue. I'm out of ideas.
[07:25] <tensorpudding> n2i: you're using the ubuntu font right?
[07:25] <n2i> tensorpudding: yes
[07:26] <n2i> Ubuntu Font Family
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> ftjla:  you may need to access it as the root user. since the normal user on a live cd. may be differnt uid, and thus not have the proper permissions to access the files.
[07:26] <nicolaus> abhijit how do i open gcc after i install it
[07:26] <nicolaus> ?
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> nicolaus:  open terminal... gcc --options
[07:26] <tensorpudding> ubuntu font family doesn't include all of latin extended additional
[07:26] <Abhijit> nicolaus, its installed by default
[07:26] <Abhijit> !gcc
[07:26] <DaPenguin> nicolaus, gcc is invoked from the cmd line
[07:26] <nicolaus> k
[07:26] <Abhijit> nicolaus, man gcc
[07:27] <tensorpudding> and it turns out that the vietnamese characters that are displaying badly for you are the ones that are located in that group
[07:27] <n2i> jo-erlend: :(
[07:27] <nicolaus> gcc --options
[07:27] <tensorpudding> it's possible that it's using a different font for it
[07:27] <n2i> It may be fixed by edit font config?
[07:27] <n2i> Not using gnome-appearaces-properties?
[07:27] <DaPenguin> nicolaus, for compiling prepackaged source the command sequence usually goes along the lines of ./configure; make && sudo make install
[07:28] <tensorpudding> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+bug/656690 is a wishlish bug for it
[07:28] <nicolaus> kk
[07:28] <DaPenguin> nicolaus, the packaged scripts will handle the appropriate invoking of the compiler (gcc)
[07:28] <truepurple> Would someone please help me with this error? http://pastebin.com/H3qQumvG
[07:28] <ftjla> DAPenguin, I see my user account under home in the mounted drive but when i click on it i get a dialog telling me folder contents cannot be displayed: you do not have permission...
[07:29] <n2i> 136771 10-antialias.conf
[07:29] <n2i> 136773 10-hinting.conf
[07:29] <nicolaus> kk
[07:29] <n2i> 173721 10-hinting-slight.conf
[07:29] <n2i> 138826 10-sub-pixel-rgb.conf
[07:29] <n2i> 136774 11-lcd-filter-lcddefault.conf
[07:29] <n2i> 136775 20-fix-globaladvance.conf
[07:29] <n2i> 136776 20-unhint-small-vera.conf
[07:29] <FloodBot2> n2i: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> truepurple:  give a summary of the issue instead of just pasteing a URL.
[07:29] <DaPenguin> !paste | n2i
[07:29] <truepurple> dr_willis The summery is in the link
[07:30] <DaPenguin> ftjla, what distro is the live cd from?
[07:30] <ftjla> Mint
[07:30] <DaPenguin> ftjla, ok, that's close enough to ubuntu for this to work
[07:31] <ftjla> ok
[07:31] <DaPenguin> ftjla, so the partiton is in fact mounted?
[07:31] <n2i> Should I remove lcddefault in the above list?
[07:31] <leonxii> mint = ubuntu = debian it will work
[07:31] <n2i> or hinting? hintslight? :(
[07:32] <DaPenguin> ftjla, ok, open up a terminal window
[07:32] <ftjla> well, i think it automounted becuase I can actually see the top tier directories of my /home partititon and I can browse my operating system partition
[07:32] <truepurple> Would someone please help me with this error? http://pastebin.com/H3qQumvG
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> truepurple:  most people wont go to some pastebin url just to read what the actual problem may be. given that they may know nothing to help fix the problem.,
[07:33] <DaPenguin> ftjla, ok, ubu usually mounts in /media...
[07:33] <ftjla> DaPenguin opened
[07:34] <DaPenguin> ftjla, ok, what we need to do is the following: first off  'sudo -i'
[07:34] <truepurple> Dr_Willis "<@FloodBot2>: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation."
[07:34] <DaPenguin> ftjla, then cd /media/
[07:35] <ftjla> DaPenguin, cd'd into media...yes they are mounted....okay I did the 'sudi -i'
[07:35] <ftjla> there
[07:35] <DaPenguin> ftjla, ok, do you have / and /home on seperate partitions?
[07:35] <ftjla> yes
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> truepurple:  muist be some amazeing problem if you cant give a simple 1 line general summary.
[07:36] <ftjla> they are mounted as really long numbers in the terminal
[07:36] <DaPenguin> ftjla, ok, and /home is the only one that isn't mounting i take it?
[07:36] <DaPenguin> ftjla, or is the machine not booting at all?
[07:36] <truepurple> You must be amazingly lazy if you can't click on a link
[07:37] <bazhang> truepurple, lets be civil
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> truepurple:  or i dont have a web browser at all..
[07:37] <ftjla> DaPenguin it attempts to boot and gets a kernel panic after a message that says an inode is deleted
[07:37] <truepurple> Bazhang I wasn't being uncivil
[07:37] <ftjla> intit just freezes
[07:37] <maniax> hello there, i need a software for copy VCD
[07:37] <maniax> anyone can suggest me?
[07:37] <bazhang> truepurple, please follow the channel guidelines. calling names is not OK
[07:38] <maniax> I've try brasero and gnomebaker
[07:38] <Silentcrow> can somebody explain to me how linux works?
[07:38] <bazhang> !guidelines > truepurple
[07:38] <truepurple> How could you not have a browser? Fine then
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> maniax:  if its an unprotected cd   you can use 'dd' to copy it to iso file
[07:38] <AcrimoniousGoron> I am using GSmartControl and all three of my hard drives have either pre-failure or old age in the SMART attributes. One is a month old and has been working fine
[07:38] <Abhijit> maniax, copy vcd? you can just right click and select copy?
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> Silentcrow:  thats rather broad.
[07:38] <truepurple> bazhang I didn't call anyone names
[07:38] <bazhang> Silentcrow, out of scope for this channel
[07:38] <Abhijit> Silentcrow, tldp.org linux.com and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[07:38] <DaPenguin> ftjla, ok, here's what we're going to try. 'chroot /media/<mountpoint of />
[07:38] <maniax> Abhijit, yes, I've already did it
[07:38] <ftjla> DaPenguin, Iremebered the tab feature so Im a now in the mounted partition but
[07:38] <maniax> but still failed
[07:39] <ftjla> okya
[07:39] <Silentcrow> how is it out of scope
[07:39] <ftjla> brb
[07:39] <Silentcrow> is this not the linux channel?
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> Silentcrow:  its  Ubuntu support..
[07:39] <Abhijit> maniax, failed? how? whats the error?
[07:39] <bazhang> Silentcrow, this is ubuntu support not explain how linux works
[07:39] <Abhijit> Silentcrow, ask in ##linux
[07:39] <maniax> Dr Willis, any simple software? I don't understand dd command
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> Silentcrow:  if you want to be a bit more spefific about what you are wanting to learn,.
[07:39] <AcrimoniousGoron> I am using GSmartControl and all three of my hard drives have either pre-failure or old age in the SMART attributes. One is a month old and has been working fine
[07:39] <AcrimoniousGoron> There is a legitimate and focused question
[07:39] <truepurple> Dr_Willis: # What does this error message I get when I try to install fron netinstal unetbootin, mean, and when can I do about it? -> [!!] Install the base system  Debootstrap warning # Warning: Couldn't download package debianutils
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> maniax:  dd is rather simple.. dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/whatever.iso BS=2048
[07:40] <maniax> Abhikit : suddenly my VCD unmounted after I select "copy CD"
[07:40] <AcrimoniousGoron> Be VERY careful with dd
[07:40] <maniax> Abhijit : suddenly my VCD unmounted after I select "copy CD"
[07:40] <AcrimoniousGoron> if you reverse the if and of or forget anything else you may screw up your data
[07:40] <maniax> Dr Willis, ok, I'll try it :D
[07:41] <ftjla> DaPenguin, I keep getting 'chroot failed to run command /bin/bash  No such file or directory
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> maniax:  the various cd tools should be able to copy a vcd also. I dont recall ever seeing a vcd with any sort of protection.
[07:41] <DaPenguin> ftjla, hmm, ok
[07:41] <AcrimoniousGoron> Why is GSmartControl saying that all the SMART attributes of my three hard drives are either pre-failure or old age? the Western Digital Caviar Black I have is only a month old
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> !info debianutils
[07:42] <truepurple> Dr_Willis: # What does this error message I get when I try to install fron netinstal unetbootin, mean, and when can I do about it? -> [!!] Install the base system  Debootstrap warning # Warning: Couldn't download package debianutils
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> truepurple:  i would think either the network is down, or the server dose not have the file.
[07:42] <tensorpudding> it might mean your network connection sucks
[07:42] <chitchat_> hi
[07:42] <DaPenguin> !grubfix
[07:43] <bpr> i'm thinking of adding a global hotkey to allow the user to rate the currently playing song.  What project on launchpad should i branch to get started on that?
[07:43] <truepurple> dr_willis So what should I do to fix it?
[07:43] <ftjla> DaPenguin, is there a way I can actually sing in as the user even though that user is not in the live cd?
[07:43] <ftjla> signin
[07:43] <chitchat_> I have a USB drive formatted with NTFS.  Ubuntu reports it's corrupt and cannot access it.  But I don't have Windows to run checkdsk on it.  Any options?
[07:43] <DaPenguin> ftjla, you'd have to make a user account with identical uid and gid for it to work
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> truepurple:  verify your network is working. see if you can ping the server its trying to get the files from., if those are ok. it may be the specific server is for some reason lacking that file.
[07:44] <DaPenguin> ftjla, and sudo -i should bypass that anyway
[07:44] <ftjla> oh
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> chitchat_:   theres some ntfsfix command - but its not reccomended to use.
[07:44] <n2i> Thanks all for support! See you later! BB!
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> chitchat_:  it should be able to mount it read only even if its considered ' corrupt' Unless its really really messed up.
[07:45] <amin> I whave a DS which i use its Vnc in its panel via browser I want to know if I could use a clinet to install on my own pc which do the job instead of browser?
[07:45] <truepurple> Dr_Willis What do you mean by "network"? You mean a lan setup? This is just a direct connection. How do I ping the server/how do I know what server to ping? Do I choose go back, or continue?
[07:45] <DaPenguin> ftjla, you may want to consider reinstalling. /home is on it's own partition, so you shouldn't run the risk of losing a lot of data
[07:45] <chitchat_> THanks Dr_Willis I'm reading up on it now.
[07:46] <ftjla> DaPenguin, arg well I suppose thats why my freind told me to set it up that way but Im just nervous about loosing that data
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> truepurple:  go to a differnt console or terminal and see if you can ping any machines on the internet.
[07:47] <ftjla> DaPenguin, so if I reinstall wont I still have the same permission problems though
[07:47] <DaPenguin> ftjla, ftjla if you're worried about losing the data, you can back it up to external media beforehand
[07:47] <DaPenguin> ftjla, you can chown the existing files to your new user account
[07:47] <Nick_Meister> hi guys im trying to link again pthread because one of the other libraries uses it, and im doing a static build using cmake but no matter what order i put it in the other libraries calls dont see it what could i be doing wrong?
[07:48] <truepurple> Dr_Willis: I told you, it is a direct connect, no lan setup.
[07:48] <ftjla> DaPenguin, I have a usb key so I will try that now
[07:48] <motaka2> I have a .sh file in my /home/user/apps dir , each time I wanna run it I have to cd to that diir and then ./appname.sh in terminal , how can I create a shortcut for that on the desktop
[07:48] <motaka2> ?
[07:49] <chitchat_> Mounting volume... Failed to startup volume: Invalid argument.
[07:49] <chitchat_> FAILED
[07:49] <chitchat_> Attempting to correct errors... FAILED
[07:49] <chitchat_> Failed to startup volume: Invalid argument.
[07:49] <chitchat_> Volume is corrupt. You should run chkdsk.
[07:49] <FloodBot2> chitchat_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> truepurple:  so  you can ping anything on the internet? googles dns servers for example?  ip <IP_ADDRESS> ? can you ping google.com ?
[07:49] <DaPenguin> ftjla, you can either the chown graphically or from the command line via the chown -R (recursive) option
[07:50] <truepurple> You mean using that modem? or that same computer?
[07:51] <truepurple> Dr_Willis You mean using that modem? or that same computer?
[07:51] <motaka2> >	I have a .sh file in my /home/user/apps dir , each time I wanna run it I have to cd to that dir and then ./appname.sh in terminal , how can I create a shortcut for that on the desktop  ?
[07:51] <chitchat_> I don't have windows at all.  Are there LiveCDs that would include chkdsk on it?
[07:51] <chitchat_> Here is error reported via ntfsfix  http://paste.ubuntu.com/586066/
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> truepurple:  from the computer with the issues.. see if it can ping  google.com or googles ip.  Prove it has an actual internet connection.
[07:52] <ftjla> DaPenguin, do I need to chown inorder to back them up cuz I tried to 'cp -R' them and I got a message saying 'omitting directory 'myuser' '
[07:53] <DaPenguin> ftjla, you'll need to do the cp with sudo
[07:53] <truepurple> Dr_Willis: When I try to download with the new computer, I unplug the modem from my old PC, and put it into the new PC, they use exactly the same internet!
[07:53] <ftjla> with the '-i' option?
[07:54] <DaPenguin> ftjla, no just sudo cp -R <source> <destination>
[07:54] <ftjla> thx
[07:54] <truepurple> Dr_willis: Anyway, I can't ping from a netinstal
[07:54] <kamran> i am trying to upgrade to 10.10 and getting the error - Could not calculate the upgrade
[07:54] <DaPenguin> ftjla, the -i option just puts you in a persistant sudo state
[07:54] <kamran> any guess what is causing this ?
[07:54] <jammiesAREon> hey guys i havent been here in a long while, but i thought someone here might be able to help me with a ubuntu wifi question
[07:55] <jammiesAREon> i am attempting to use a ubuntu desktop as my router
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> truepurple:  so even tho its plugged in - it does not seem to have a working networking connection. does the ifconfig command  show it has an ip? you may need to rerun the dhclient command to get it to ask for a valid ip to use.
[07:56] <jammiesAREon> i'd  like to essentially replace my wireless router (running DDWRT) with a computer... What I am curious about is how would one go about changing the Radio's transmission power from the CLI in ubuntu
[07:56] <aaron_> All flash videos are choppy when put into full screen
[07:56] <truepurple> Dr_Willis: Willis, whatcha talking about?
[07:56] <jammiesAREon> this is a feature I use in ddwrt
[07:56] <DaPenguin> aaron_, that's a known flash problem
[07:56] <ftjla> DaPenguin I get 4 messages each starting with 'cp: cannot create symbolic link 'the destination i entered'
[07:57] <ftjla> and ending with Operation not permitted
[07:57] <DaPenguin> ftjla, is the usb stick large enough?
[07:57] <ftjla> should be more than enough
[07:57] <jammiesAREon> i read through some of the iwconfig man pages but didnt see parameters that'd let me adjust the signal strength, only display them
[07:58] <leonxii> aaron_ try totem with youtube plugin
[07:58] <kamran> hello
[07:58] <aaron_> DaPenguin, so basicly unless i want to change to M$ or download the videos that i want to watch i am sol
[07:58] <truepurple> Dr_Willis: Are you still willing to help?
[07:58] <kjlang1> hi, im on a fresh install of 10.10, and when i try to do ftp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>i get "ftp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Name or service not known". anyone know why?
[07:58] <aaron_> leonxii, it's not youtube
[07:59] <DaPenguin> aaron_, yeah, flash video suppoert under linux in general has issues currently
[07:59] <jammiesAREon> ftjla: r u trying to cp a symlink?
[07:59] <jammiesAREon> or a folder?
[07:59] <jammiesAREon> rather directory excuse me
[08:00] <ftjla> jammie, my os wont boot so I am trying to get acces to my user data
[08:01] <knoppies> ftjla, I just logged in, I might be able to help, whats your issue?
[08:01] <truepurple> Would someone please help me with this error? http://pastebin.com/H3qQumvG
[08:02] <jammiesAREon> ftjla do u have permissions on the data in question
[08:02] <ftjla> DaPenguin, Jammie, now so now i notice i can cd into the account but the only to files I see are a README.txt and 'Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop'
[08:02] <aaron_> DaPenguin, ok i have a good question for you my brother moved files and folders from a ext3 to ntfs drive but it didn't move correctly now i have to try to get the files off the ext3 drive. so can i just mount it and go or do i have to do something perticular
[08:02] <DaPenguin> jammiesAREon, trying to backup a home partition from a livecd
[08:03] <jammiesAREon> oh
[08:03] <jammiesAREon> yea hmmm
[08:03] <jammiesAREon> u may need to chmod on the home partition for the livecd user
[08:03] <DaPenguin> ftjla, is your /home encrypted?
[08:03] <jammiesAREon> that was my next question
[08:03] <DaPenguin> jammiesAREon, we've tried that already
[08:03] <jammiesAREon> oh srry
[08:03] <jammiesAREon> jst got on
[08:03] <jammiesAREon> lol
[08:03] <ftjla> well I dont remember setting it up that way  but I may have?
[08:03] <knoppies> ftjla, is 'Access-Your...' a dir?
[08:04] <jammiesAREon> one thing u could do.... is logon with single user
[08:04] <jammiesAREon> drop to a root terminal
[08:04] <jammiesAREon> and try it that way
[08:04] <jammiesAREon> no live cd in the mix
[08:04] <DaPenguin> jammiesAREon, it won't boot. grub error.
[08:05] <jammiesAREon> oh geez.... l
[08:05] <jammiesAREon> lol*
[08:05] <DaPenguin> jammiesAREon, why we're trying to recover /home
[08:05] <jammiesAREon> he could rebuild grub tho from the livecd
[08:05] <ftjla> all, I just did an 'ls -l' and it shows them as lrwxrwxrwx but then...
[08:05] <DaPenguin> jammiesAREon, luckily it's on a seperate partition so worst case is a reinstall
[08:05] <jhf> aaron_: you and your "brother" can just moun
[08:05] <jhf> mount
[08:05] <jammiesAREon> what is the grub error?
[08:05] <motaka2> how can I get ride of running these two lines of code each time I like to run dbschema?  http://pastebin.com/PwQMU1f6
[08:06] <DaPenguin> jammiesAREon, something about a missing inode
[08:06] <ftjla> it has --> /usr/share/ecryptfs-utils/ecrypt-mount-private.desktop
[08:06] <aaron_> jhf: thanks now i can get my hard drive back lol thanks again
[08:07] <jammiesAREon> motaka: i looked at ur link.. i dnt see the two lines of code tho
[08:07] <jammiesAREon> unless i am missing something
[08:07] <jammiesAREon> it just looks like you are trying to run a bash script
[08:07] <jammiesAREon> possibly an install of sorts
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> truepurple:  have you verified if the netinstall box has a valid ip?  checked ifconfig? reran dhclient ?
[08:08] <motaka2> why no one doesnt help me?
[08:08] <ruan> is there a way i can update my phone with my pc via bluetooth?
[08:08] <jammiesAREon> not familiar with the dbscheme packaged
[08:08] <jammiesAREon> motaka2 i just wrote to u
[08:08] <jammiesAREon> trying to help
[08:08] <jammiesAREon> i do not see the lines of code u are referring to
[08:08] <jhf> motaka2: echo "first line" > dbschema then  echo "second line" >>  dbschema shown it then done
[08:08] <jhf> motaka2: chown
[08:09] <jammiesAREon> oh wait
[08:09] <jammiesAREon> i see them now
[08:09] <jammiesAREon> my bad
[08:09]  * jammiesAREon rolls eyes
[08:09] <FloodBot2> jammiesAREon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:09] <ftjla> but if I cant chown now using live will I still be able to chown after a new install, especially if the are encrypted?
[08:09] <motaka2> jhf:  you are talking with a newbie please explain better
[08:10] <jammiesAREon> well ftjla i'd first reinstall grub
[08:10] <jammiesAREon> that may fix the problem altogether
[08:10] <DaPenguin> ftjla, honestly, i don't know...
[08:10] <jammiesAREon> before u reinstall
[08:10] <jammiesAREon> cnt hurt
[08:10] <ftjla> well....how do I reinstaqll grub then
[08:10] <jhf> motaka2: if you add them in one file that you can "chown" make executable -- done
[08:11] <DaPenguin> !grub | ftjla
[08:11] <jammiesAREon> which verison of ubuntu u running ftjla
[08:11] <ftjla> 10.10
[08:11] <motaka2> jhf:  tell me what I should run in terminal , I dont understand like that
[08:11] <DaPenguin> jammiesAREon, the live cd is mint tho lol
[08:11] <jammiesAREon> oh god
[08:11] <jammiesAREon> lmao
[08:11] <jhf> motaka2: i did
[08:12] <DaPenguin> jammiesAREon, now you see what we're dealing with here :)
[08:12] <DaPenguin> jammiesAREon, was trying to chroot into the / partition and reinstall grub from there but that was popping up errors
[08:13] <jammiesAREon> first i'd go to a computer and get the 10.10 live cd
[08:13] <ftjla> I have the 10.10 server I dl'd by accident but it isnt live is it?
[08:13] <jhf> <ftjl yes
[08:13] <motaka2> jhf:  i dont know what that was , it is not excutable in terminal you have the paths give me line by line scripts thrn
[08:13] <DaPenguin> ftjla, live enough to reinstall grub from
[08:13] <jammiesAREon> ftjla how fast is ur internet ?
[08:14] <tripelb> What is this and why don't we have it?  - At Microsoft Bill Hill (his team developed the font-rendering technology that both Windows and Macs use to make type appear sharper on screen)
[08:14] <jhf> motaka2: i am not going to write it for you
[08:14] <ftjla> okay I gotta burn it first
[08:14] <ftjla> brb
[08:14] <jhf> motaka2: lol
[08:14] <jhf> motaka2: I did my homework
[08:14] <jammiesAREon> yea but dapenguin might be to hard to walk him through it from the server version tho
[08:15] <jammiesAREon> wats 10.10? GRUB 2?
[08:15] <DaPenguin> jammiesAREon, worst case i pm him and paste in bash commands
[08:15] <ftjla> jammies , comcast so it depends
[08:15] <DaPenguin> jammiesAREon, yeah, grub2
[08:15] <jammiesAREon> ftjla: me too.... docsis 3
[08:15] <jammiesAREon> 80mbps down
[08:15] <jammiesAREon> could go higher if i wanted to pay
[08:15] <motaka2> jhf:  I dont understand anyway , but thanks, I think I still have to run it from terminal each time
[08:15] <jammiesAREon> lol
[08:16] <DaPenguin> jammiesAREon, lol, my 18 mbs seems downright sluggish now lol
[08:16] <jhf> motaka2: arg
[08:16] <jammiesAREon> lol
[08:16] <jhf> motaka2: echo "first line" > dbschema then  echo "second line" >>  dbschema shown it then done
[08:16] <jammiesAREon> i use to have that
[08:16] <jhf> motaka2: echo "first line" > dbschema then  echo "second line" >>  dbschema
[08:16] <ftjla> wait will the ubuntu 10.10 server distro work?
[08:16] <ftjla> better than the server
[08:16] <jammiesAREon> huh?
[08:17] <jhf> motaka2: then chown it in a terminal
[08:17] <eugeniow> user nyc_student
[08:17] <DaPenguin> ftjla, the desktop live cd would probably be easier
[08:17] <ftjla> e 10.10 studio
[08:17] <motaka2> jhf: forget it
[08:17] <eugeniow> ba
[08:17] <jammiesAREon> no... the server has no gui
[08:17] <juk> how to putge samba and friends without hurtung ubuntu-desktop?
[08:17] <jhf> motaka2: hang 1 minute
[08:17] <juk> purge*
[08:17] <jammiesAREon> i only use the server version on everything tho
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> juk:  ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package
[08:17] <ftjla> I have both studio and server but I cant find my desktop version that I actually have installed
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> juk:  why are you purgeing samba?
[08:18] <ftjla> k
[08:18] <jammiesAREon> for grub the live cd should be fine
[08:18] <jammiesAREon> i assume the server version of 10.10 has grub2 as well
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> jammiesAREon:  grub2 is the default on server and desktop. yes
[08:18] <DaPenguin> jammiesAREon, yeah, i think server is essentially the same install minus X
[08:18] <jammiesAREon> i'm using 10.04 LTS right now tho
[08:19] <jammiesAREon> and dapenguin you can choose server packages at install
[08:19] <jammiesAREon> like dhcp
[08:19] <juk> Dr_Willis: so i'll be safe, it's ugh, i don't like it :)
[08:19] <jammiesAREon> otherwise with desktop u need to instll them all by hand
[08:19] <truepurple> Would someone please help me with this netinstall error? http://pastebin.com/H3qQumvG
[08:19] <DaPenguin> jammiesAREon, gotcha
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> juk:  just  remove the samba package.. no more samba server running. there ya go..
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> juk:  You installed samba and no longer want it?
[08:20] <juk> Dr_Willis: no it was
[08:20] <jammiesAREon> truepurple: i'm not sure that the package is built for your os
[08:20] <ftjla> while I am waiting for disc to finish (2mins) Have any of you heard of Linuxfest Northwest?
[08:20] <gb__> hey guys
[08:20] <gb__> anyone here?
[08:20] <jammiesAREon> or possibly wherever the package is being downloaded from isnt working
[08:20] <gb__> i need some help with flash
[08:20] <juk> Dr_Willis: yeah, it's gone now
[08:20] <truepurple> jammiesAREon: There IS no OS other then unetbootin, what do you mean?
[08:20] <jammiesAREon> oh geez a flash issue
[08:21] <jammiesAREon> get in line
[08:21] <leonxii> tell us your problem gb
[08:21] <gtafa> compiz --replace -c emerald &, i have used that command,.. and my window border disappear, how can i enable it???
[08:21] <gb__> i am trying to enable mic in browser via flash
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> gtafa:  try just 'compiz --replace' or 'emerald --replace'
[08:21] <jhf> motaka2: is the full path /home/donkarlo/apps/DbSchema/DbSchema$ ./dbschema.sh
[08:22] <leonxii> gb__ and then whats happening..?
[08:22] <jammiesAREon> truepurple: huh?  unetbootin isnt an OS
[08:22] <gb__> i dont see the option to enable it , went to flash support page , clicked on "always ask" , it confirm then nothing, does not even key up
[08:22] <motaka2> jhf: yes it is
[08:22] <gtafa> thaks, Dr_Willis
[08:22] <gb__> but it does not popup option to ask :(
[08:22] <ftjla> DaPenguin, jammie, all, server ed. burned shall I boot to it now
[08:22] <truepurple> jammiesAREon: Yes it is, it is a basic one sufficient to run the program
[08:22] <jhf> motaka2: is the full path /home/donkarlo/apps/DbSchema/apps/DbSchema$ ./dbschema.sh
[08:23] <truepurple> jammiesAREon: If you don't want to call it a OS, fine, there is no OS
[08:23] <DaPenguin> ftjla, yeah, go ahead
[08:23] <jammiesAREon> i am pretty sure it is not an OS
[08:23] <jhf> motaka2: are you sure it's /apps/DbSchema/apps/DbSchem
[08:23] <motaka2> jhf: yes the full path to the .sh file is /home/donkarlo/apps/DbSchema/apps/DbSchema/dbschema.sh
[08:23] <jammiesAREon> it allows u to make bootable OSes of other ones
[08:23] <jammiesAREon> like ubuntu
[08:23] <jammiesAREon> fedora
[08:23] <jammiesAREon> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[08:23] <motaka2> jhf:  no no , I am sorry wait ...
[08:24] <jammiesAREon> debian etc
[08:24] <jhf> motaka2: do you what others to run it?
[08:24] <truepurple> jammiesAREon: If you don't want to call it a OS, fine, THERE IS NO OS.
[08:24] <jammiesAREon> lol i wont run any .sh for anyone :-P
[08:24] <gb__> anyone?
[08:24] <jammiesAREon> well truepurple then there in lies the problem
[08:24] <jammiesAREon> :-P
[08:24] <jammiesAREon> u have no OS
[08:24] <leonxii> gb__ what browser are you using..?
[08:24] <motaka2> jhf: the full path is /home/donkarlo/apps/Dbschema/dbschema.sh
[08:25] <jhf> motaka2: do you what others to run it?
[08:25] <gb__> i tired ff and seamonkey
[08:25] <truepurple> jammiesAREon: So you don't even know what unetbootin does? I guess your not the person to get help from
[08:25] <ftjla> DaPenguin, booted server ed. to menu....Instal...etc. down to Rescue a broken system.  Is that last one the one I should use?
[08:25] <jhf> motaka2: or just you
[08:26] <motaka2> jhf: just the two lines I pasted you
[08:26] <DaPenguin> ftjla, can you get out to a regular terminal?
[08:26] <jammiesAREon> yes I do... it allows u to run an OS from a CD or most cases a usb stick
[08:26] <jhf> motaka2: for other users or you
[08:26] <jammiesAREon> it's a netboot installer that is all it is
[08:26] <leonxii> gb__ try chrome if you can...cause flash is built in it
[08:26] <juk> leonxii: NOT TRUE!!!
[08:26] <gb__> ok will try thanks
[08:27] <jammiesAREon> u need to install one of the systems that is mentioned in the link i sent u
[08:27] <truepurple> jammiesAREon: You just contradicted yourself, first you said it wasn't a OS, now your calling it a OS
[08:27] <jammiesAREon> in this case it looks like debian since the tool is for debian
[08:27] <motaka2> jhf:  first I cd /home/donkarlo/apps/DbSchema    then I  ./dbschema
[08:27] <jammiesAREon> no i didnt call it an OS
[08:27] <DaPenguin> or actually, try the rescue option, see what it brings up
[08:27] <jammiesAREon> it allows you to run an OS
[08:27] <motaka2> jhf:  donkarlo is the only user on this machine
[08:27] <leonxii> juk it just is..:P
[08:27] <jhf> motaka2: yes -- do you whant other people to do that
[08:28] <juk> leonxii: ugh...
[08:28] <jhf> motaka2: i see
[08:28] <jhf> motaka2: simple
[08:28] <jammiesAREon> all unetbootin is is a net boot installer
[08:28] <ftjla> DaPenguin, It doesnt seem to let me go to a terminal so I wnet with rescue option
[08:28] <jammiesAREon> IT INSTALLS OSes
[08:28] <jammiesAREon> it is not the OS itself
[08:28] <jhf> motaka2: sudo /mkdir /usr/bin/DbSchema
[08:28] <truepurple> jammiesAREon: Whatever, the point is that it, and especially netinstall, the whole point of it, is a way to install a OS like ubuntu. So it doesn't make sense to say the reason it isn't working is because there is no OS on the computer
[08:28] <jammiesAREon> an OS is ubuntu, fedora, debian, gentoo
[08:29] <ruan> odd.. my phone connects to irc.freenode.net, #ubuntu, i can send a message, but nothing happens
[08:29] <ruan> i can see my message too
[08:29] <jammiesAREon> um u havent installed one yet truepurple
[08:29] <jammiesAREon> u have to retrieve it first
[08:29] <jhf> motaka2: sudo cp /home/donkarlo/apps/Dbschema/*
[08:29] <ruan> i can even whois my phone's irc
[08:29] <DaPenguin> ftjla, it should take you through the steps to restore your system then
[08:29] <blaenk> hey guys how can I re-synchronize my ubuntu server's clock, it seems to have gone way off
[08:29] <blaenk> is there a way to net sync it or something like on mac and windows
[08:30] <truepurple> jammiesAREon: Again, that is the point of unetbootin netinstall in the first place!
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> blaenk:  theres ntp services/tools to sync the time to network time servers
[08:30] <motaka2> jhf: it says no destfile , i think you wanna cope it in usr/bin/DbShema , right ?
[08:30] <jhf> motaka2: sorrry cp /home/donkarlo/apps/DbSchema/* /mkdir /usr/bin/DbSchema
[08:30] <jammiesAREon> truepurple: did you follow these steps:   http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/install-linux-with-ease-using-unetbootin/
[08:30] <blaenk> I just found the wiki page Dr_Willis thanks
[08:31] <jhf> motaka2: then cp /home/donkarlo/apps/DbSchema/*.* /mkdir /usr/bin/DbSchema
[08:31] <jhf> motaka2: are there dir ithere
[08:31] <jammiesAREon> truepurple no the point of unetbootin is to allow you to install an OS without using the CD
[08:31] <leonxii> gb__ tell if chrome work...then just probably is yet another flash bug...
[08:31] <jammiesAREon> but it doesnt do all the work for you
[08:31] <jammiesAREon> u still need to give it input
[08:31] <jammiesAREon> otherwise it wont do crap
[08:31] <jhf> motaka2: ya just put it all in there
[08:31] <DaPenguin> calling unetbootin an os is like calling grub an os
[08:32] <motaka2> wait ...
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> DaPenguin:  or the cp command...
[08:32] <DaPenguin> but truthfully this all off-topic
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> Grub2 is practially an OS. :)
[08:32] <DaPenguin> lol, rsync OS :)
[08:32] <jammiesAREon> lol
[08:32] <ftjla> DaPenguin, I have come to a screen that asks me to selec a device to use as a root file system and then it tells me I may not need to use one and it provides a DONT USE ONE option,  any input?
[08:33] <truepurple> jammiesAREon: unetbootin does not fail to install a OS because there isn't a OS already installed. If there was a OS already installed, there would be no reason to use unetbootin!
[08:34] <jammiesAREon> ummm not you need the freaking ISO of the freaking OS on the drive the freaking NetbootIn is on
[08:34] <DaPenguin> ftjla, just select whichever partition your / is on
[08:34] <jammiesAREon> (CD, FLASH, w/e)
[08:34] <DaPenguin> ftjla, just don't reformat it lol
[08:34] <truepurple> jammiesAREon: I already told you, its netinstall.
[08:34] <jammiesAREon> i'm done trying to help you... if you just want to argue about it
[08:34] <leonxii> offtopic replace freaking with fracking offtopic bsgbot
[08:34] <jammiesAREon> NETINSTALL IS  NOT THE OS
[08:34] <jammiesAREon> IT INSTALLS AN OS
[08:34] <motaka2> jhf: ok they are all in /usr/bin/DbSchema
[08:35] <jammiesAREon> For the love of all things linux
[08:35] <jammiesAREon> sheesh
[08:35] <blag> is there a music player that can play music in a samba share without indexing it first?  it would only need to delve into random directories until it finds a playable file and then plays it.
[08:35] <jammiesAREon> go find a netinstall channel then if you are so convinced it is an OS
[08:35] <jammiesAREon> they'll help you
[08:35] <jhf> motaka2: now just run dbschema.sh -- or rename it to what you whant
[08:35] <jhf> want
[08:35] <truepurple> jammiesAREon It installs the OS from the internet, so no complete ISO file is needed
[08:36] <jhf> motaka2: /usr/bin is in $PATH so anything there runs
[08:36] <jammiesAREon> only if the NIC is supported
[08:36] <jammiesAREon> otherwise you'll need to throw on the ISO manually
[08:36] <jammiesAREon> cuz it wont be able to access the internet to fetch the files
[08:37] <jhf> motaka2: make an icone for it if that's your thing
[08:37] <jammiesAREon> but whatever... go ask someone else
[08:37] <jammiesAREon> ftjla: how's ur grub repair going?
[08:37] <ftjla> DaPenguin, darn I dont remember which one is my root partition I have sda1,2,3,5,6,7...... however I can move around through the menu I have a shell now...what command gives me more detail regarding partitions?
[08:38] <ruan> im really confused.. my phone can connect to freenode/#ubuntu, and it gets all of the messages from server, but it wont recieve or send any irc messages
[08:38] <ftjla> jammies getting close
[08:38] <motaka2> jhf: it doesnt copy the dirs look at this :  http://pastebin.com/EP96HPQZ
[08:38] <ruan> through my bluetooth connection
[08:38] <jammiesAREon> ftjla do u have an idea of how big ur root partition is?
[08:38] <linter> Hi all.  Is anyone familiar with the process by which Ubuntu resumes from hibernation?  I have a problem where the UUID on my swap was changed and now it won't wake up from hibernation (it just does a normal boot).  I don't know what needs to be changed to the new UUID in order to make it work again.
[08:38] <ftjla> yes I beleive it was 52gb
[08:38] <jammiesAREon> ok
[08:39] <jammiesAREon> try typing in fdisk -l at the terminal
[08:39] <jammiesAREon> might need to sudo that
[08:39] <jammiesAREon> not sure
[08:39] <ruan> yeh sudo
[08:39] <jammiesAREon> it should list the sizes of the drives / partitions
[08:39] <jhf> motaka2: -R
[08:39] <jammiesAREon> it should be in the format of something like /dev/sda or /dev/sdb
[08:40] <jammiesAREon> or something similar
[08:40] <jammiesAREon> depending on the interface used for the drive
[08:40] <DaPenguin> jammiesAREon, also, it will show which ones are bootable fyi
[08:40] <ftjla> lol well that narrows it down to sda5 at 52+ and sda6 and 51+
[08:40] <jammiesAREon> yea that too
[08:40] <jammiesAREon> thanks DaPenguin
[08:40] <ftjla> Im gonna go with sda5 as root
[08:40] <DaPenguin> so that should help narrow it down lol
[08:40] <ftjla> :)
[08:40] <jammiesAREon> well ftjla mount them first and look
[08:40] <jhf> motaka2: can you make an icon?
[08:41] <jhf> motaka2: for a file
[08:41] <jammiesAREon> i assume they are in EXT3 or EXT4
[08:41] <gorillaunit> what up guus
[08:41] <ftjla> YES thats it!
[08:41] <jammiesAREon> which means u should be able to mount them no problem to a directory
[08:41] <motaka2> jhf:  I wanna forget about it , linux sucks
[08:41] <osiemo> hello i'm trying to install mysqldb and i keep getting the error 'python.h: no such file or directory compilation terminated'
[08:41] <osiemo> can anyone help
[08:42] <DaPenguin> osiemo, you may need to install python or python-dev
[08:42] <jhf> motaka2: well you just are not smart enough
[08:42] <jammiesAREon> osiemo what method are u using to install it?
[08:42] <osiemo> i have installed those
[08:42] <juk> !find python.h
[08:42] <jhf> motaka2: if can't cp mkdir or ln -- :)
[08:43] <jammiesAREon> it should come with the package tho juk i'd imagine
[08:43] <osiemo> jammiesAREon i downloaded the source
[08:43] <jammiesAREon> assuming he's not nstalling from source
[08:43] <leonxii>  i thought python is preinstalled in ubuntu....??
[08:43] <jammiesAREon> oh wait
[08:43] <jammiesAREon> lol
[08:43] <jammiesAREon> there ya go
[08:43] <FloodBot2> jammiesAREon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:43] <motaka2> jhf: the funny thing is the dir created in usr bin cant be deleted too!
[08:43] <jammiesAREon> grrrr... bad habit sorry
[08:43] <DaPenguin> osiemo, you may have to specify the path to either ./configure or make
[08:44] <jammiesAREon> everything cn be deleted with a simple sudo rm -rf /*
[08:44] <jammiesAREon> just kidding dont EVER do that
[08:44] <osiemo> i have specified the path in site.cfg
[08:44] <DaPenguin> aww, no fun lol
[08:44] <rww> jammiesAREon: Jokes like that tend to get people removed from #ubuntu. I don't recommend saying it again.
[08:44] <vish> jammiesAREon: better not to even mention such commands here ;)
[08:44] <neutrin0> hmmm ... i seem to have installed ubuntu correctly since i'm in the irc channel
[08:44] <jammiesAREon> srry
[08:45] <jhf> motaka2: sudo rm /usr/bin/DbSchema*
[08:45] <jammiesAREon> ur right my bad... i just assumed they'd no... then i wrote it an realized someone might actually try it
[08:45] <jammiesAREon> know*
[08:45] <gorillaunit> what happens if you rm -rf / ?
[08:45] <jhf> motaka2: sudo rm /usr/bin/DbSchema/*
[08:45] <jhf> motaka2: sudo rm /usr/bin/DbSchema/*.*
[08:45] <jammiesAREon> it wipes ur computer gorillaunit
[08:45] <SwedeMike> gorillaunit: it deletes all files.
[08:45] <jammiesAREon> essentially
[08:45] <jammiesAREon> not good at all
[08:46] <osiemo> dapenguin well how do you mean?
[08:46] <jhf> motaka2: sudo rm /usr/bin/DbShem*
[08:46] <DaPenguin> gorillaunit, recursively deletes everything in /
[08:46] <ruan> gorillaunit: i guess it deletes everything in /
[08:46] <jammiesAREon> basically (aka you're root directory
[08:46] <ftjla> DaPenguin, jammiesAREon, so grub installed and I rebooted but no luck,I still get the panic error telling me of a deleted inode
[08:46] <jammiesAREon> do u have the exact wording of the error ftjla?
[08:46] <jhf> motaka2: done
[08:47] <ftjla> I can get it here in a few
[08:47] <DaPenguin> osiemo, check out the documentation for the source, usually either INSTALL or README
[08:47] <motaka2> jhf:  yes it is now cleaned , but why creating a shortcut is so hard?
[08:47] <gorillaunit> how do i find a girl friend?
[08:47] <jammiesAREon> ok... one other thing ftjla did you try an fsck yet?
[08:47] <jammiesAREon> from the live CD
[08:47] <vish> !ot | gorillaunit:
[08:47] <leonxii> gorillaunit try sudo
[08:47] <jhf> motaka2: just us gui in root
[08:47] <jammiesAREon> that usually refers to possible missing blocks
[08:48] <jammiesAREon> which isnt a grub error
[08:48] <motaka2> jhf: whats that?
[08:48] <jammiesAREon> the fact that you are getting grub at all means it can see the boot sector of the drive
[08:48] <DaPenguin> man woman >> fatal error, core dumped
[08:48] <jhf> motaka2: users usually don't do it in root
[08:48] <jammiesAREon> but as soon as it boots the OS selected it runs into issues
[08:48] <gorillaunit> root are you accessing thru your root account?
[08:49] <ftjla> jammiesAREon, I have not run fsck
[08:49] <jammiesAREon> but since you can see the internal drive from the live cd u should be able to run it
[08:49] <jammiesAREon> ftjla ok lets do that
[08:49] <jhf> motaka2: ok quick answered : all exe files have to be in $PATH
[08:49] <ftjla> I can get to a shell here shortly, what options should i use
[08:49] <stjohnmedrano> good day, how should i decode qr?
[08:49] <jammiesAREon> hold on gotta refresh my memory
[08:49] <DaPenguin> jammiesAREon, acpi issue possibly?
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> jhf:  you can call an executable via using its full path.. and not haveing it in your $PATH
[08:50] <jammiesAREon> dapenguin doubtful if it worked before
[08:50] <jammiesAREon> but the table may have gotten screwed up
[08:50] <jammiesAREon> possibly an unclean mount
[08:50] <DaPenguin> jammiesAREon, yeah, fsck then
[08:50] <jammiesAREon> or move f
[08:50] <gorillaunit> how do i run ubuntu in ubuntu?
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> gorillaunit:  via virtualbox perhaps.
 his first quesstion was how can i not use full path
[08:50] <jammiesAREon> i mean they can get corrupted ... they are hard drives afterall
[08:51] <jammiesAREon> gorillaunit: why would u want to do that? seems wasteful
[08:51] <DaPenguin> jammiesAREon, i can think of a few reasons lol
[08:52] <jammiesAREon> testing i suppose
[08:52] <jhf> Dr_Willis: :)
[08:52] <jammiesAREon> ftjla let me know when ur ready
[08:52] <jhf> Dr_Willis: his first quesstion was how can i not use full path
[08:52] <DaPenguin> jammiesAREon, i used to do that to see how easily i could break things or what would happen if i tried certain things :P
[08:52] <jammiesAREon> ftjla also what is the filesystem format?
[08:53] <DaPenguin> 10.10 probably ext4
[08:53] <jammiesAREon> pretty easy to break things depenguin... linux is not restrictive like windows
[08:53] <jammiesAREon> u have unlimited access to pretty much anything
[08:54] <DaPenguin> jammiesAREon, dd and /dev/random are all kinds of fun to play with :P
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> night all
[08:54] <ftjla> jammiesAREon, Im in a shell
[08:55] <jhf> Dr_Willis: night
[08:55] <jammiesAREon> ok... is it big ftjla?
[08:55] <jammiesAREon> did u have to kick the hermit out?
[08:55] <ftjla> 160g total
[08:55] <DaPenguin> lol
[08:55] <jammiesAREon> bashed him out ?
[08:55] <jammiesAREon> just kidding
[08:55] <jammiesAREon> anyhoo ok
[08:55] <DaPenguin> rm -f hermit
[08:55] <jammiesAREon> ftjla do a fdisk -l
[08:56] <jammiesAREon> hey that could exist dont joke like that
[08:56] <DaPenguin> lol
[08:56] <ftjla> k
[08:56] <jammiesAREon> pastebin it if you can
[08:56] <jammiesAREon> i just want to see what it says about ur partitions
[08:57] <jammiesAREon> brb nature calls
[08:57] <ftjla> JammiesAREon, cant but I have sda1,2,3,5,6,7, 1&2 are windows, 3 is extended, 5 is my root, 6 my home, and 7 the swap
[08:58] <DaPenguin> ok, i really need to get some sleep before work tommorrow. if you can't get it worked out i'll be back on around the same time tommorrow night.
[08:59] <jhf> jammiesAREon: in linux i would us df
[08:59] <jammiesAREon> ok does it say filesystem?
[08:59] <motaka2> jhf: the ubuntu channel is really unuseful
[08:59] <DaPenguin> jhf, df only works on mounted partitions anyway
[09:00] <jammiesAREon> thnx DaPenguin i was just about to say that
[09:00] <jhf> jammiesAREon: yes
[09:00] <jammiesAREon> ftjla we're looking for something like ext3 or ext4
[09:01] <DaPenguin> anyway, i'm out for the evening. need to get my 4 hrs sleep lol
[09:01] <jammiesAREon> i had my 4 hours last night
[09:01] <DaPenguin> lol
[09:01] <jammiesAREon> i'm good for 3 more days
[09:01] <ftjla> thx for help DaPenguin
[09:02] <jammiesAREon> i'm gonna get ftjla up and running i hope and then go to bed
[09:02] <ftjla> jammiesAREon, it doesnt show fs type but Im positive it is not ext 4
[09:02] <jammiesAREon> :-\
[09:02] <ftjla> '-l' option
[09:03] <ftjla> as in lower case L
[09:03] <jammiesAREon> ok first things first then i guess...
[09:04] <jammiesAREon> i gotta look something up really quick
[09:04] <jammiesAREon> jst a sec
[09:04] <ftjla> k
[09:04] <jhf> motaka2: ya under 10's never get it
[09:05] <jhf> motaka2: go ... just go
[09:06] <jammiesAREon> ftjla: was ur HD identified as /dev/sda(x) or /dev/sdb(x)
[09:06] <jammiesAREon> where x represents the partition number
[09:06] <ftjla> sda
[09:06] <jammiesAREon> ok
[09:07] <jammiesAREon> so type in at the shell (as long as the drives are not mounted)
[09:07] <jammiesAREon> "fsck /dev/sda"
[09:07] <jammiesAREon> let me know what it says
[09:07] <jammiesAREon> i may have the syntax wrong
[09:07] <jammiesAREon> i am not on linux right now to check
[09:08] <ftjla> says '/bin/sh: fsck: not found'
[09:08] <jammiesAREon> interesting
[09:09] <myp_> 不会用。。
[09:09] <rww> !cn
[09:10] <jammiesAREon> ftjla: try "cd /sbin"
[09:10] <jammiesAREon> then try fsck /dev/sda
[09:11] <myp_> 谁会说汉语
[09:11] <gorillaunit> how do i find a girl friend? im serious question
[09:11] <ftjla> jammiesAREon, i cd'd to sbin and 'fsck.ext2, 3, and 4 are there
[09:12] <jammiesAREon> ok type ftjla type in "echo $0"
[09:12] <jammiesAREon> and let me know the output
[09:12] <ftjla> so I tried running command from within sbin but still got last message