[09:04] <hunger> The Ksysguard applet is broken once again since yesterday. Did somebody change something there? I doubt it, but I did not touch that config here for month now.
[09:33] <pef> hi
[09:34] <pef> can someone explains me how to use qmake with cdbs ? I can't find debian/rules files samples
[09:41] <dholbach> hi
[09:42] <dholbach> do you have a launchpad team for kubuntu registered yet?
[09:42] <dholbach> is it  "kubuntu-workforce"  or something?
[09:42] <dholbach> ah no... must be somebody else
[09:43] <dholbach> would be nice if you registered a team and bugs could be assigned to that team
[09:43] <dholbach> jdub might set up a mailing list for those bugs
[12:39] <tvo> Riddell: ping
[03:11] <verwilst> Riddell: ping -f
[04:38] <tvo> Riddell: ping
[05:38] <tvo> Riddell: http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/googlebar.diff
[05:45] <verwilst> tvo: what is it? :d
[05:46] <tvo> verwilst: modification to searchbar plugin so that it has google suggest
[05:46] <verwilst> oh
[05:47] <tvo> ie if you type a word, wait a bit, it loads possible completions from google suggest
[05:47] <verwilst> i'm trying to package kdelibs :d
[05:47] <tvo> instead of a history
[05:47] <verwilst> 3.4.90
[05:47] <verwilst> but it fails, damned
[05:47] <verwilst> in apidox
[05:47] <tvo> what kind of errors do you get?
[05:47] <verwilst> well, at first it failed
[05:48] <verwilst> i updated some files from svn
[05:48] <verwilst> and then it didn't fail anymore
[05:48] <verwilst> but now it loops
[05:48] <tvo> the build process?
[05:48] <verwilst> it just keeps on making the apidox
[05:48] <verwilst> yip
[05:48] <tvo> weird..
[05:48] <verwilst> idd :d
[05:48] <verwilst> sucky, spent days on it :p
[05:50] <tvo> i've got an SVN from 1 or 2 weeks before 3.5 alpha, kdelibs compiled fine..
[05:50] <tvo> but I have to go.. dinner is waiting
[09:37] <tvo> Riddell: did you receive google suggest patch?
[09:40] <Riddell> tvo: yep, is it against kde 3.4 or 3.5?
[09:43] <tvo> SVN, approx. 3.5
[09:46] <Riddell> ok doke
[09:46] <Riddell> doesn't look like I'll get near compiling kdebase today though
[09:46] <Riddell> manjana manjana
[09:48] <tvo> manjana ?
[09:50] <Riddell> maana with accents
[09:53] <tvo> I know the latter, though I don't what manjana means :(.   but have to for some time- bbl
[09:57] <Riddell> manjana is maana without an accent
[10:34] <tvo> heh, I came that far ;-)
[10:34] <tvo> it means tommorow isn't it ? (looked it up)
[10:35] <Riddell> yes, the spanish say it a lot
[10:35] <tvo> s/tommorow/tomorrow/
[10:35] <tvo> I've never been in spain..
[10:35] <Riddell> you should come, we're here all week
[10:36] <tvo> heh, would be pretty last minute :-)
[10:37] <tvo> only coding marathon remaining isn't it?
[10:38] <Riddell> yes
[10:38] <tvo> would be cool to do unsermake -j 50 as you said a while ago :p
[10:39] <Riddell> which reminds me, need icecream packages
[10:40] <tvo> doubt it'll be possible though (if it was serious invite :p)
[10:42] <tvo> what's icecream?
[10:42] <Riddell> distcc/teambuilder alike, manages the -j 50 part
[10:43] <tvo> ah, remembers me I need to convince my family to use linux too, so I can setup a distcc network :)
[10:46] <tvo> yo figured out how to enable searchbar in filemgr mode
[10:51] <Riddell> cool
[10:52] <tvo> Riddell: http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/googlebar_filemgr.diff
[10:52] <tvo> e-mail too?
[10:57] <tvo> meh, will do with little explanation..
[10:59] <Riddell> thanks
[11:05] <tvo> Riddell: ok, mail sent
[11:08] <Riddell> tvo: I need to report back on you
[11:08] <tvo> Riddell: did google already sent a mail, or just internally (ubuntu) ?
[11:08] <Riddell> "How they are doing on the whole, are they motivated, competant, eager and involved?"
[11:08] <Riddell> google sent an e-mail to ubuntu which has been passed on to me
[11:08] <Riddell> I recon you pass all of those
[11:09] <Riddell> "If they have delivered any usable code" I recon that too
[11:09] <tvo> cool
[11:09] <Riddell> "Do you consider that they have earned their reward in the end?"
[11:10] <Riddell> I can say yes to that but you'll owe me a pint :)
[11:11] <tvo> heh, if once I meet you in real life :)
[11:11] <tvo> s/if//
[11:12] <Riddell> are your findings about inotify locate public somewhere googleable?
[11:12] <tvo> only https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RLocate
[11:13] <tvo> additionally I could up my test code and link to it
[11:13] <tvo> ( C++ / STL )
[11:13] <Riddell> ah yes, groovy
[11:15] <tvo> ok, will do
[11:15] <Riddell> tvo: I guess the main issue with your project was that you wanted to make locate ioslave but that was already done
[11:16] <Riddell> tvo: have you passed all the changes back to the original author?
[11:16] <tvo> almost, have not yet sent a mail about 0.2 to Armin, it's on my todo
[11:17] <Riddell> would it be possible to run locate ioslave from the konqueror "google" plugin when in file manager mode?
[11:17] <tvo> since he wanted to add it to KDE extragear, I plan to talk with him about releasing a normal (0.5, 1.0?) version and put it on extragear at same time
[11:17] <tvo> yes, that's pretty easy
[11:18] <Riddell> does that need code changes?
[11:18] <tvo> one else {} block after the if (htmlPart)
[11:19] <Riddell> a patch for that would be groovy
[11:20] <Verwilst> Riddell: !!! hellow!
[11:21] <tvo> Riddell: mind if I delay that till tomorrow? or are you packaging now?
[11:21] <Riddell> Verwilst: dood
[11:21] <Riddell> tvo: tomorrow is fine
[11:22] <tvo> ok will do, check your mail at lunchtime or so :)
[11:22] <Verwilst> dood means dead in my language :p :p
[11:22] <Riddell> Verwilst: live!
[11:23] <Verwilst> but "oo" is pronounced like oa, as in loaf
[11:23] <Verwilst> :d
[11:23] <Verwilst> </dutch lesson>
[11:23] <Verwilst> i'm not dutch ;)
[11:23] <Verwilst> but belgian :p
[11:23] <Verwilst> Riddell: heard of my little kdelibs probbies? :d
[11:23] <tvo> anyway, i'm off to bed, g'night everyone
[11:24] <Verwilst> see ya
[11:27] <Riddell> Verwilst: remind me again
[11:28] <Verwilst> Riddell: hehe
[11:28] <Verwilst> well, i built arts :p
[11:28] <Verwilst> but been hving troubles with kdelibs ever since
[11:29] <Verwilst> apidox to be exact
[11:29] <Verwilst> first it failed
[11:29] <Verwilst> saying QTDOCDIR didn't exist and stuffs
[11:29] <Verwilst> i bugged coolo and stuffs
[11:29] <Verwilst> then got some files from admin/ from trunk 3.5
[11:29] <Verwilst> then it built apidox
[11:30] <Verwilst> but it just looped over and over, building apidox again and again
[11:30] <Verwilst> :(
[11:33] <Riddell> hmm, rather evil
[11:33] <Riddell> this is using debian packaging?
[11:33] <Riddell> debian/kubuntu packaging
[11:33] <Riddell> have you tried compiling it without the packaging?
[11:33] <Riddell> are you using unsermake?
[11:43] <Verwilst> it's debian packaging yep
[11:43] <Verwilst> no, not without packaging, was going to try that next, but had some exams :d
[11:43] <Verwilst> and i'm using unsermake
[11:43] <Riddell> might be worth trying the packaging without unsermake
[11:44] <Verwilst> yips
[11:44] <Verwilst> why did we use unsermake anyways?
[11:44] <Verwilst> i'll probably need to edit a rules file or something eh?
[11:44] <Verwilst> ( still pretty new to debian packaging, but i'm getting the hang of it ;) )
[11:44] <Riddell> 1) nicer compiler output 2) faster parallel compile 3) testing it
[11:45] <Riddell> edit debian/rules, comment out the unsermake line.  re-do make -f debian/rules buildprep
[11:45] <Riddell> 3) because unsermake is required for KDE 4 so we need to move towards it anyway
[11:45] <Verwilst> yeah, well, i'll retry unsermake when the beta's here :)
[11:45] <pef> Riddell: hi
[11:45] <Riddell> pef: yo
[11:46] <pef> Riddell: have you spent nice holidays ? ;)
[11:46] <Riddell> pef: you're another one who never told me you were going for membership
[11:46] <Verwilst> Riddell: make -f debian/rules buildprep ?
[11:46] <Riddell> pef: very nice thanks
[11:46] <Riddell> Verwilst: that runs  make -f admin/makefile.common
[11:46] <Verwilst> when should this be done in other cases?
[11:46] <Verwilst> ah
[11:46] <Riddell> Verwilst: it needs to be done when Makefile.am files are changed (or when changing buildsystem as we are here)
[11:46] <pef> Riddell: I wasn't sure myself, have confirmed this morning
[11:46] <Riddell> oh and make sure you uninstall unsermake
[11:47] <Verwilst> so i can't just re-run make -f admin/makefile.common?
[11:48] <Riddell> Verwilst: you can but  make -f debian/rules buildprep  does some extra cleaning or something
[11:48] <Verwilst> okido :) thanks
[11:48] <Verwilst> i'll try it again tomorrow :)
[11:48] <Verwilst> goodnight!
[11:48] <Verwilst> oh, and your kdesu patch doesn't apply cleanly anymore :)
[11:49] <Verwilst> but i'm going to try and build kdelibs without it first
[11:49] <Verwilst> and afterwards fixup the patch
[11:49] <pef> Riddell: have you a package using qmake in mind ?
[11:52] <Verwilst> bye!
[11:55] <Riddell> pef: we have had packages that use qmake but I can't think of any off hand
[11:56] <pef> Riddell: do you know an apt-get way to get on of them ? I can't find one


[05:59] <jafoo0> Hey everyone, i've got a question on a system that failed 3/4ths the way in on the ubuntu machine, anyone care to help?
[05:59] <jafoo0> 'er.. failed 3/4ths the way in on ubuntu install
[06:27] <CIA-18> ubiquity: evand * r2205 ubiquity/ (4 files in 3 dirs): * Update noninteractive frontend to work with recent changes.
[07:17] <mathiaz> hi. I'm trying to use d-i to preseed an install for ubuntu-server.
[07:17] <mathiaz> How can I set the grub options ?
[07:18] <mathiaz> Is there a place where all the d-i preseed options are documented ?
[07:22] <evand> mathiaz: you could run debconf-get-selections at the end of an install before you reboot.  I don't believe there's an actual list though.
[07:23] <evand> Another option is to look at the templates files in the source package for the component you're interested in
[07:24] <thom> http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.amd64/apbs04.html is probably as good as it gets, documentationwise
[07:26] <mathiaz> evand, thom: ok. Thanks.
[07:26] <mathiaz> I also run into another problem when I was trying to run a complete automated install.
[07:26] <mathiaz> in the documentation, it's written that the auto option on the kernel would do the right thing
[07:27] <mathiaz> however I still get asked some question (like detecting the keyboard)
[07:27] <evand> mathiaz: some options have to be seeded on the kernel cmdline.
[07:27] <mathiaz> isn't the auto option supposed to postponed all the keyboard/langage question after the network is up ?
[07:27] <evand> unless you're doing initrd preseeding
[07:28] <mathiaz> I'm trying to do http preseeding
[07:28] <cjwatson> thom: there's a more appropriate version on help.ubuntu.com
[07:28] <cjwatson> https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html
[07:28] <mathiaz> so that I don't have to remaster the iso whenever I want to install a new ubuntu-server instance
[07:29] <cjwatson> in any case, just tacking options onto the kernel command line should cause them to be passed through to the installed kernel's bootloader entries
[07:29] <cjwatson> you don't have to do any preseeding for that
[07:29] <mathiaz> I'm trying to automate iso tests, and there are a couple of test cases I'd like to cover automatically.
[07:29] <cjwatson> 'auto' is not what you want; you're looking at the wrong documentation, I suspect
[07:29] <thom> cjwatson: ahah
[07:29] <mathiaz> cjwatson: I was looking at the debian documentation.
[07:29] <cjwatson> mathiaz: don't
[07:29] <mathiaz> cjwatson: ok. I'll have a look at help.u.c then
[07:30] <cjwatson> 'auto' activates auto-install which isn't in main and isn't in our installer
[07:30] <cjwatson> (because it's a recent development and we haven't looked at integrating it properly yet)
[07:30] <mathiaz> is there a way to achieve the same thing in our installer ?
[07:30] <cjwatson> auto-install is just a convenience wrapper, it's not essential. See our documentation
[07:31] <mathiaz> cjwatson: ok. Thanks.
[07:31] <cjwatson> our support team will recommend Kickstart, though you may need to supplement that with preseeding from time to time
[07:31] <cjwatson> https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html
[10:06] <evand> bug 137338
[10:07] <evand> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/137338
[10:07] <evand> cjwatson: bad burn or squashfs bug?
[12:05] <xivulon> cjwatson,evand, do you know when fuse and lupin-gutsy will be in the daily build?


[01:13] <LaserJock> hi Amaranth
[09:30] <edgarin__> Hi to all
[09:30] <edgarin__> some people with LTSP?
[09:36] <Burgundavia> edgarin__: it what way?
[12:09] <cbx33> ping Seveas
[12:10] <Seveas> pong cbx33
[12:10] <cbx33> Seveas I've been trying to get a working usplash,kwwii told me that it's broken at the mo
[12:11] <Seveas> what is broken? usplash itself or your theme?
[12:11] <cbx33> I havnt made a theme
[12:11] <cbx33> I was trying to view the new edgy theme
[12:11] <cbx33> but i just get the test screen
[12:11] <ogra> cbx33, i have a working one here but the graphics are pretty ugly (didnt put any time into it, just dropped the logo on a black background and indexed that)
[12:12] <ogra> my prob is that the usplash theme creation in all packages we have uses a hardcoded Makefile instead of an automake generated one ...
[12:12] <ogra> edubuntu artwork uses automake ...
[12:13] <ogra> dunno who decided such a sillyness ...
[12:14] <cbx33> oh
[12:14] <cbx33> hmmm
[12:14] <cbx33> ok...
[12:14] <cbx33> where is teh position of the progress bar set etc?
[12:14] <ogra> i need to put some time into rewriting the Makefile.am
[12:15] <cbx33> and is there a screen shot of the new edgy one?
[12:15] <ogra> in the .c file
[12:15] <cbx33> ah right
[12:15] <cbx33> I just want to make sure ours fits the theme
[12:15] <ogra> i just grabbed the kde one and replaced the pngs
[12:15] <cbx33> if you know what I mean ;)
[12:15] <cbx33> right ok
[12:15] <ogra> it needs color adjustments, but works fine that way
[12:15] <cbx33> ok cool
[12:16] <cbx33> is that
[12:16] <cbx33> kde-artwork-usplash ?
[12:16] <ogra> you can then just run make in the dir and it creates the theme file
[12:16] <ogra> yep
[12:16] <cbx33> ogra, dude, you gonna be available today?
[12:16] <ogra> btw, i'm using your wallpaper since friday
[12:16] <cbx33> ;)
[12:16] <cbx33> nice?
[12:16] <ogra> we should drop the stripes ...
[12:16] <cbx33> you think?
[12:16] <ogra> and make the logo wy less prominent
[12:16] <ogra> *way
[12:16] <cbx33> ok
[12:17] <cbx33> I'll change now and show you
[12:17] <ogra> make it smaller, move it to the right and add a bit transparency or something, so it doesnt stick so much in your face
[12:17] <ogra> also the color makes it hard to read icon captions ...
[12:18] <ogra> they somehow disappera in the background ...
[12:18] <cbx33> hmm
[12:18] <cbx33> ok
[12:19] <cbx33> I'll pastelise it a little
[12:19] <ogra> but i like the text and molecules ... we should add a bit more organic stuff
[12:19] <cbx33> yeh i thought that
[12:19] <cbx33> got anything in mind
[12:19] <ogra> do you know these drawing in botanic books ?
[12:20] <ogra> like a pencil drawing of a butterfly slightly faded or something like that
[12:20] <cbx33> hmmm
[12:20] <cbx33> yes I know what you mean
[12:20] <cbx33> off you go then....ogra you can draw the butterfly ;)
[12:20] <ogra> i thought about just grabbing a photo and potrace that
[12:20] <ogra> might also be a flower ...
[12:21] <ogra> something living ...
[12:21] <cbx33> www.progbox.co.uk/edu-art/
[12:22] <cbx33> number 3 ?
[12:22] <ogra> a lot better
[12:22] <cbx33> ok
[12:22] <cbx33> I'll get a pic of a flower and trace it
[12:22] <ogra> remember that we need some space at the bottom for the panel
[12:22] <cbx33> yes
[12:22] <cbx33> I'll putt it up a little later
[12:22] <cbx33> s/putt/pull
[12:22] <ogra> so the logo should move up some px
[12:22] <ogra> right
[12:22] <cbx33> um
[12:22] <cbx33> can I ask you about the manga one
[12:23] <ogra> sure
[12:23] <cbx33> what did you want changed ;)
[12:23] <ogra> well, no idea
[12:23] <cbx33> heheh
[12:23] <ogra> might be fine as is
[12:23] <cbx33> are we ok to use for now?
[12:23] <cbx33> we can tweak later for sure
[12:23] <ogra> sure
[12:23] <cbx33> does our usplash have to follow the same format as the others?
[12:23] <cbx33> sorry
[12:23] <ogra> and its still the alternate one, so we have more freedom here
[12:23] <cbx33> not usplash
[12:24] <cbx33> gdm splash
[12:24] <ogra> dunno, i havent seen the others :)
[12:24] <cbx33> hehe
[12:24] <cbx33> the other thing was....ubuntu, not sure about klubuntu has had its log redrawn
[12:24] <cbx33> logo
[12:25] <cbx33> http://silentkeystroke.deviantart.com/gallery/
[12:25] <ogra> lest stick with the logo as is ...
[12:25] <cbx33> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/5751652/?qo=61&q=by%3Asilentkeystroke+sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps
[12:25] <ogra> we could probably revive the http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/edubuntu/dapper_art/gnome-splash.png splash
[12:25] <cbx33> may trace some of that one ;)
[12:25] <ogra> it would fit with your color selection
[12:25] <cbx33> yes
[12:26] <ogra> the flower looks nice ... but seems very complex to trace ...
[12:26] <cbx33> well
[12:26] <cbx33> I was gonna cheat a little
[12:26] <cbx33> get photoshop to trace it
[12:26] <cbx33> ;)
[12:27] <cbx33> oooh looks good
[12:27] <cbx33> hang on I'll incorporate
[12:28] <ogra> i could get you a ton of this kind: http://www.tragwerk.org/kunstsyn/GALERIEN/7_FOTO/BIG/13.jpg
[12:29] <ogra> looks good sounds good :)
[12:29] <cbx33> I'll show you in a tick
[12:29] <cbx33> how long are you around for today dude ;)
[12:29] <ogra> only from time to time
[12:29] <ogra> i have to do some stuff on the house ...
[12:31] <cbx33> ok
[12:31] <cbx33> so
[12:32] <cbx33> can I just clarify a few things
[12:32] <cbx33> before you go
[12:32] <cbx33> young wallpaper, sorted for now
[12:32] <cbx33> higher ed wallpaper, I'm just making a lst change to
[12:33] <cbx33> ogra check out number 4 on that page
[12:33] <cbx33> did you like the splash images lisa did...on the wiki?
[12:33] <cbx33> we shall work on the gdm login screen
[12:33] <cbx33> and usplash
[12:34] <ogra> yep, i liked them
[12:34] <cbx33> so are we good to work around them?
[12:34] <cbx33> any comments suggestions ?
[12:34] <ogra> yup, i think so ...
[12:34] <ogra> loo up the meeting log where we did the voting ...
[12:34] <ogra> *look
[12:35] <cbx33> ok
[12:35] <ogra> the flower looks beautiful
[12:35] <cbx33> ;) thanks
[12:35] <ogra> but i dont like the position ...
[12:35] <cbx33> ok
[12:35] <ogra> the pic gets too much weight to the bottom left
[12:35] <cbx33> suggest ;)
[12:36] <ogra> dunno ... top and right art quite empty ...
[12:36] <ogra> probably just move all the stuff a bit up and right suffices
[12:36] <cbx33> ok
[12:36] <cbx33> if the photo idea for gdm login doesn't work
[12:36] <cbx33> we'll try something else...
[12:37] <cbx33> did you have any speficic ideas for that and usplash?
[12:38] <cbx33> ogra the kbuntu one you referenced earlier
[12:38] <cbx33> is it just the blue kubuntu and blue throbber?
[12:38] <cbx33> not much else on the page? - all black?
[12:39] <ogra> right
[12:39] <cbx33> did you want us to follow that
[12:39] <cbx33> or be a little more inventive?
[12:40] <cbx33> like not a black screen ;)
[12:41] <cbx33> what do you tink?
[12:41] <ogra> well, all we have is golden/yellow ... if you have a nice idea that fits 256 cols and looks slick ....
[12:41] <cbx33> ok
[12:43] <ogra> http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/edubuntu-splash.so thats the quick and dirty one i made
[12:43] <cbx33> ok
[12:43] <cbx33> ogra did you like the gdm login screens we did already?
[12:46] <ogra> yes, but its not about me :)
[12:46] <cbx33> i know
[12:46] <cbx33> but if you're happy it means we can run with it as a prelim
[12:46] <cbx33> right ;)
[12:49] <ogra> as a prelim i'D just pick a random one blindly from the wiki :P
[12:49] <cbx33> heh
[12:49] <cbx33> oi :0
[12:53] <ogra> if you plan to use the wallpaper drawings in gdm, could you send me a cropped version without wallpaper background ? i can try to make that work in ldm with a solid background color
[12:54] <cbx33> ok sure
[12:55] <cbx33> we can use a png in ldm can't we?
[12:55] <ogra> yep
[12:55] <ogra> with transparency
[12:55] <ogra> but it has to be as small as possible
[12:55] <cbx33> hehe
[12:55] <cbx33> i gathered that
[12:55] <ogra> ldm is slow enoug on its own ... big pics will slow it down more
[12:55] <cbx33> that's what I was goign to say ;)
[12:56] <cbx33> well, I hope to have all the prelim artowkr done by late this afternoon
[12:56] <cbx33> I'll probably create a deb so I can test it out
[12:56] <ogra> cool
[12:56] <ogra> yup
[12:56] <cbx33> I was going to take the one already there, hack it up and replace images then build
[12:57] <cbx33> do i need to build a source pacakge and then the proper package for artwork ;)
[12:57] <cbx33> excuse my ignorance here ;)
[12:58] <ogra> yes
[01:06] <cbx33> ogra what new icons did we need to create
[01:06] <cbx33> willow
[01:07] <cbx33> SCP ?
[01:08] <ogra> SCP has one
[01:08] <ogra> we should drop the header image in edgy+1 and think about a sane menu or toolbar ...
[01:09] <cbx33> yes
[01:09] <ogra> willow needs one, but thats easy
[01:09] <cbx33> that sounds like einen gut idea
[01:09] <cbx33> lisa is gonna do one
[01:09] <ogra> take a globe and put a lock on the bottom right corner
[01:09] <cbx33> any others?
[01:09] <ogra> (or something like that)
[01:09] <ogra> not from the top of my head
[01:09] <cbx33> ogra to build the usplash what did you say to do...
[01:10] <ogra> but if there are icons missing, thats a bug, we still have until release to fix bugs ;)
[01:10] <ogra> run make in the dir where the pngs lie
[01:10] <cbx33> ograsure
[01:10] <cbx33> so I get the edubuntu-artwork-usplash ?
[01:10] <ogra> and replace all occurences of kubuntu with edubuntu in the MAkefile
[01:10] <cbx33> ah
[01:10] <ogra> (and the .c files)
[01:11] <cbx33> doesn't the edubuntu-uplash build yet?
[01:13] <ogra> ??
[01:13] <cbx33> sorry
[01:13] <cbx33> I have all the images now
[01:13] <cbx33> did you say get the kubuntu package and build the .so
[01:13] <ogra> thats what i did
[01:14] <ogra> and i replaced the pngs ... nothing else
[01:14] <cbx33> where do i place that file to test it?
[01:14] <ogra> that gives you a blue progress bar though
[01:14] <cbx33> i have new throbber pngs ;)
[01:14] <ogra> look at /etc/alternatives/uspash-artwork.so
[01:14] <cbx33> ok cool
[01:14] <cbx33> thanks
[01:14] <ogra> that wont help, you need the right hex codes for the colors in the .c file
[01:15] <cbx33> oh, i thought Dennis said we use images now
[01:15] <cbx33> theres the fore and background
[01:15] <ogra> i have red progressbars as well, but the make turns them blue ... :)
[01:15] <cbx33> oh
[01:15] <cbx33> :(
[01:15] <cbx33> how odd
[01:15] <ogra> no, the colors are defined in hex codes in the .c file
[01:15] <cbx33> so what are the pngs for?
[01:15] <ogra> they need to be adjusted to match ours
[01:15] <ogra> the shape i think
[01:17] <TeePOG> good morning
[01:18] <cbx33> where does pngtousplash come from?
[01:18] <cbx33> hi TeePOG
[01:19] <ogra> cbx33, usplash-dev
[01:19] <TeePOG> hi cbx33
[01:19] <cbx33> heheh yup
[01:19] <cbx33> just figured that out
[01:19] <cbx33> wow...google had nothing on that binary ;)
[01:24] <cbx33> ogra I don;t have an /etc/alternatives/   usplash anything
[01:24] <TeePOG> tell me, does sound work remotely over ltsp?
[01:25] <cbx33> i don't have edubutu-usplash installed
[01:25] <ogra> yes
[01:25] <cbx33> would that be it?
[01:25] <ogra> likely
[01:26] <ogra> i have no idea where its installed originally ...
[01:26] <cbx33> ok
[01:26] <cbx33> I'm sorting it now ;)
[01:27] <cbx33> got it
[01:27] <ogra> TeePOG, you need to add SOUND=True to your lts.conf file
[01:28] <TeePOG> ok ogra, and then it detects your soundcard?
[01:28] <cbx33> ogra why is that not enabled by default?
[01:28] <ogra> thats a kernel thing that happens anyway
[01:28] <cbx33> just outta interest ?
[01:28] <ogra> SOUND=True just starts the infrastructure on top of the soundcard :)
[01:28] <ogra> cbx33, not yet ... we'll ship an lts.conf in edgy
[01:29] <cbx33> ;)
[01:29] <cbx33> ahhh
[01:29] <cbx33> so that's why ;)
[01:29] <ogra> including enables locald devices, network swap 16bit colors and sound
[01:30] <TeePOG> is that the one in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client/examples/lts.conf ?
[01:30] <ogra> no
[01:30] <ogra> you need to create one ...
[01:30] <TeePOG> ahhh ok
[01:30] <ogra> sudo gedit /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
[01:31] <ogra> add the following two lines:
[01:31] <ogra> [default]
[01:31] <ogra> SOUND=True
[01:31] <cbx33> whhaaa !
[01:31] <ogra> thats  it ... on next boot your client will have sound
[01:31] <cbx33> that's not right
[01:31] <TeePOG> hmm, ok
[01:31] <cbx33> I just changed the symlink in the /etc/alternatives but it didn;t work
[01:32] <ogra> eeek
[01:32] <ogra> dont ever touch /etc/alternatives by hand
[01:32] <cbx33> but but but
[01:32] <cbx33> :(
[01:32] <ogra> replace the image it links to ;)
[01:32] <cbx33> ok#
[01:33] <ogra> (make a backup to restore later)
[01:33] <ogra> or use the proper update-alternatives comamndline to add your image)
[01:38] <cbx33> ogra
[01:38] <cbx33> I can't understand this
[01:38] <cbx33> by default I have a circular resolution in the usplash
[01:38] <ogra> circular resolution ?
[01:38] <cbx33> did you install the kubuntu-usplash package?
[01:38] <ogra> no
[01:39] <ogra> i just replaced /usr/lib/usplash/edubuntu-splash.so with my generated image file
[01:39] <cbx33> ok
[01:41] <cbx33> ok
[01:41] <cbx33> but
[01:42] <cbx33> in that folder I have a file that points back to the /etc/alternatives again
[01:42] <cbx33> ?
[01:42] <cbx33> do you?
[01:42] <cbx33> usplash-artwork.so
[01:43] <ogra> yes
[01:43] <cbx33> and where does that point?
[01:43] <ogra> for me to /usr/lib/usplash/edubuntu-splash.so
[01:44] <cbx33> oh
[01:44] <cbx33> for me not
[01:44] <cbx33> I shall sort it out
[01:44] <ogra> no idea whats the default here
[01:44] <ogra> i dont have any plain ubuntu system around atm
[01:44] <cbx33> ok
[01:45] <ogra> but i guess you wont have an alternative at all in a default ubuntu
[01:47] <cbx33> no
[01:47] <cbx33> it's ok I think I got it
[01:54] <cbx33> I screwed it up
[01:54] <cbx33> :(
[01:54] <cbx33> gonna reinstall edubuntu ;)
[01:57] <jsgotangco> heh
[01:59] <jsgotangco> hey jono
[02:01] <jono> hey
[02:01] <jsgotangco> sorry to hear about the puppy :/ love dogs myself
[02:08] <TeePOG> ciao all
[02:08] <TeePOG> bbl
[02:22] <ogra> oh man
[02:23] <jono> thanks all :)
[02:34] <cbx33> i just did something mega stupid
[02:34] <cbx33> in my haste to fix artwork...I reformatted my laptop
[02:34] <cbx33> erasing entire disk
[02:34] <cbx33> :(
[02:34] <cbx33> heheeh
[02:34] <cbx33> the data isn't critical but would be nice to get it back....once edubutnu has finished installing
[02:35] <cbx33> anyone know of any data recovery tools ;)
[02:39] <ogra> if oyu already formatted the chances are very bad to get stuff back
[03:11] <edgarin> Hi to all
[03:22] <jsgotangco> hello
[04:14] <bddebian> Hello
[04:14] <Yagisan> cbx33, it is hard (and expensive ) to recover that data
[04:14] <jsgotangco> hey bddebian
[04:14] <bddebian> Hi Yagisan and jsgotangco
[04:15] <Yagisan> G'day bddebian, jsgotangco
[04:15] <Yagisan> cbx33, best thing to do next time, is to dd an image of the disk
[04:15] <Yagisan> and we can try to recover the data from the image
[05:24] <annma> hi
[05:25] <STORMCHAS3R_> morning
[05:26] <annma> are you the STORMCHAS3R_ I know?
[05:27] <STORMCHAS3R_> annma, I doubt it
[05:28] <STORMCHAS3R_> :)
[05:28] <annma> OK
[05:28] <annma> ;)
[05:28] <annma> I am the KDE-Edu maintainer
[05:28] <STORMCHAS3R_> w0w, nice to meet you
[05:28] <annma> that's why I poped here
[05:29] <STORMCHAS3R_> sweet
[05:29] <STORMCHAS3R_> edubuntu rox
[05:29] <annma> yes, it would be good if we collaborate more closely
[05:30] <STORMCHAS3R_> right, i just wish there was a version geared more to high school/college
[05:30] <annma> we'd like to know for example if you have feedback from teachers
[05:31] <annma> you mean more edu apps for high school?
[05:31] <annma> yes, it would be nice to have several "flavours" of edubuntu depending on the age
[05:31] <STORMCHAS3R_> annma, that and wallpapers and such
[05:31] <annma> yes
[05:31] <annma> are you an edubuntu collaborator?
[05:32] <STORMCHAS3R_> would like to be
[05:33] <STORMCHAS3R_> I am trying to push linux in education
[05:33] <annma> :)
[05:34] <pygi> annma, what kind of colaboration would you have in mind? :)
[05:34] <annma> is there someone here whom I can contact regarding a colaboration?
[05:35] <STORMCHAS3R_> pygi, lol
[05:37] <STORMCHAS3R_> does anyone know the "Industry trends and Future Implications" with OSS?
[05:40] <annma> pygi: well, improving our KDE-Edu programs
[05:40] <annma> you will have feedback probably from schools
[05:40] <annma> or teachers
[05:40] <cbx33> ogra buddy u sure you didn;t do anything else?
[05:40] <pygi> annma, I think ogra is the guy you mostly wanna speak with, but I think everyone here might give you opinions
[05:40] <cbx33> i just did a fresh edubuntu install
[05:40] <annma> you also may have nice ideas
[05:41] <cbx33> but it's not working
[05:41] <annma> pygi: OK, thanks
[05:41] <pygi> annma, I would suggest you mail the edubuntu-devel list
[05:41] <pygi> that's the best you could do
[05:42] <annma> OK
[05:42] <annma> excelelnt
[05:43] <annma> found the link, great
[05:43] <cbx33> ping Seveas
[05:47] <STORMCHAS3R_> how do you set up a workstation to use LTSP, and could it be used as a diskless client?
[05:50] <stormbuntu> !ltsp
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ltsp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <sbalneav> Morning all
[05:52] <stormbuntu> morn
[05:56] <bddebian> pygi: Still here?
[05:57] <pygi> bddebian, kinda yes
[05:57] <cbx33> hey bddebian
[05:57] <cbx33> hi pygi
[05:57] <bddebian> Hi cbx33
[05:57] <pygi> hi cbx33
[05:57] <pygi> what you broke this time? :)
[05:57] <pygi> how may I help you bddebian ?
[05:57] <bddebian> pygi: Need to add $(THREAD_LIBS) to libburn_libburn_foo_LDADD in Makefile.am! :-)
[05:58] <cbx33> heheh
[05:58] <cbx33> usplash
[05:58] <bddebian> pygi: Also, wtf are the package config files?
[05:58] <pygi> bddebian, ahm, what do you mean?
[05:58] <pygi> why would I add anything to Makefile.am?
[06:00] <bddebian> Because it's broken? :-)
[06:01] <pygi> bddebian, what exactly is broken?
[06:01] <pygi> it all builds fine for me?
[06:01] <bddebian> libburn_libburn_la_LDFLAGS = $(THREAD_LIBS) \
[06:02] <bddebian> When I build it in pbuilder, it doesn't -lpthread for some reason
[06:02] <pygi> bleh, patch so I can see what are you talking about and explanation why you wanna change it?
[06:02] <bddebian> Anyway, the biggest thing holding me up are the package config files
[06:02] <pygi> bleh, weird :-/
[06:03] <pygi> bddebian, pbuilder complaining or anything? what? why dont you poke motu people?
[06:04] <bddebian> Becuase you asked me to package it? :-)
[06:04] <pygi> lol, right, but -motu people are experts, I'm not :-)
[06:04] <pygi> I told you not to worry, if it's a problem don't do it :)
[06:05] <bddebian> No it's not a problem, I just thought maybe you'd know :-)
[06:06] <pygi> I know nothing :)
[06:10] <bddebian> Bah
[06:11] <pygi> bddebian, what?
[06:11] <bddebian> OK, I'll play with it this afternoon.  I have to head out for a while
[06:11] <bddebian> I meant "Bah" that you know nothing :-)
[06:11] <pygi> enjoy and don't worry, just stop doing it ^_^
[06:11] <pygi> I'll package it one day ^-^
[06:11] <bddebian> It's a pride thing at this point :-)
[06:12] <bddebian> OK, gotta run, laterz
[06:23] <cbx33> ograit ist broken
[06:23] <cbx33> ogra i managed to break usplash
[06:24] <cbx33> my machine doesnt even boot now
[07:19] <ogra> cbx33, so boot without the splash parameter, then it isnt started
[07:37] <cbx33> ogra didn;t know you could do that
[07:52] <sbalneav> ogra!
[07:52] <sbalneav> Hey dude!
[07:52] <ogra> hey
[07:53] <sbalneav> You know there's a problem with xkeyboard-config?  It now depends on xkb-data, but that isn't in a metapackage somewhere
[07:53] <ogra> its already fixed ...
[07:53] <sbalneav> so an ltsp-build-client fails.
[07:53] <sbalneav> ah, cool.
[07:53] <ogra> waiting on the new package to be done
[07:53] <sbalneav> You are teh star
[07:53] <sbalneav> ctl-alt-f switching's fixed now, btw
[07:54] <ogra> there is a bunch of other breakage i wanted to fix today, but due to the breakage i culdnt
[07:54] <ogra> (like having an empty /etc/nbd-clietn to make vagrants nbdswapd work)
[07:55] <sbalneav> Due to breakages, you couldn't fix breakages?  Recursion, dude!
[07:55] <ogra> hehe
[07:55] <sbalneav> Time to calculate some fibonnacci sequences!
[07:55] <sbalneav> What flavour?
[07:55] <ogra> <- afk for a while :)
[07:55] <ogra> spaghetti :)
[07:55] <sbalneav> Spaghetti??!?!
[07:56] <ogra> hehe
[07:57] <ogra> on the bottom there is about 1/3 freozen cream then they press vanilla ice through something like a big sieve ...
[07:57] <ogra> so it looks like spaghetti
[07:57] <ogra> and on top there is strawberry marmelade with white chocolate on top
[07:57] <sbalneav> Yum
[08:14] <Rondom> spaghetti-ice doesn't seem to be that popular...
[08:16] <ogra> not outside of germany )
[08:16] <ogra> :)
[08:17] <sbalneav> ogra: I noticed blender wasn't in edubuntu anymore.  Any reason for the demotion to Universe?
[08:17] <ogra> a hard ffmpeg dependency
[08:18] <sbalneav> ah, patents.
[08:18] <ogra> it cant keep it in main without breaking half of its functionallity
[08:18] <ogra> (its possible to build it without ffmpeg, but that cripples it a lot)
[08:27] <cbx33> ogra can you test
[08:27] <cbx33> these images for me
[08:28] <cbx33> in usplash
[08:28] <ogra> sbalneav, ltsp-build-client works fine again
[08:30] <ogra> cbx33, a bit later ... my GF wants me for some sunday evening stuff ...
[08:30] <sbalneav> ogra: Stooper-doope.
[08:31] <sbalneav> s/.$/r./
[08:31] <cbx33> ogra soudns ominous ;P
[08:31] <cbx33> ogra ping me when you're able
[08:31] <cbx33> I don;t know why this isn;t working
[08:31] <pygi> sbalneav, hey
[08:31] <cbx33> but it's ticking me opff
[08:31] <sbalneav> hello pygi!
[08:32] <ogra> cbx33, just leave the usplash then ... it will take time anyway to make the buildsystem work ...
[08:33] <cbx33> ok
[08:33] <cbx33> just watned to test em :(
[08:33] <cbx33> see if they worked from an asthetics point of view ;)
[08:33] <ogra> they will surely be better than mine ...
[08:33] <ogra> :)
[08:33] <cbx33> wanna see quikylcy?
[08:33] <cbx33> I 'll upload to webserver
[08:34] <cbx33> http://progbox.co.uk/www/edu-art/
[08:34] <cbx33> http://progbox.co.uk/edu-art/
[08:36] <stormchas3r> cbx33, nice work there
[08:36] <ogra> cbx33, later ... btw EduWIP4.jpg looks perfect ... and if the colors work in usplash thats an awesome one :)
[08:36] <cbx33> my wifes work really
[08:36] <cbx33> well it's 256
[08:36] <cbx33> so it should
[08:36] <cbx33> oh you mean 4
[08:36] <cbx33> ah
[08:37] <cbx33> check it later ;)
[08:37] <cbx33> you'll see ;)
[08:38] <stormchas3r> quick ? for you guys,  when edubuntu boots, and the "edubuntu" logo comes up when the devices load,  how can you change that logo?
[08:38] <cbx33> stormchas3r: usplash
[08:39] <ogra> cbx33, i didnt mean 4 for usplash
[08:39] <ogra> i meant the usplash pics ...
[08:39] <stormchas3r> so how would i change this to what Id prefer?
[08:40] <cbx33> ah ok cool
[08:40] <cbx33> heheh sorry ogra
[08:40] <cbx33> go have some fun and relax
[08:40] <cbx33> I'll build you an artwork pacakge
[08:41] <stormchas3r> cbx33, you talking to ogra  or I?
[08:41] <cbx33> ogra
[08:41] <stormchas3r> dang
[08:41] <stormchas3r> kk
[08:41] <cbx33> stormchas3r hehe are you talking about for edgy or dapper?
[08:42] <stormchas3r> dapper
[08:44] <cbx33> I'm not sure
[08:44] <stormchas3r> where can i get edgy?
[08:44] <cbx33> edgy is still in development
[08:44] <cbx33> so it's still got bugs
[08:44] <stormchas3r> gotcha
[09:59] <maccam94> knock knock, anybody home?
[10:00] <Burgundavia> maccam94: yep
[10:00] <maccam94> i'm thinking of switching a high school over to Edubuntu from XP, and I'm thinking compatibility right now. what sorts of school-type apps are there, for things like grading, financing, math formula writing, etc?


[19:04] <cmaloney> Whee
[19:04] <cmaloney> Are we having fun yet?
[19:09] <jrwren> no
[19:22] <_stink_> check again
[19:24] <jrwren> nope
[19:25] <_stink_> haha
[19:29] <cmaloney> how about now?
[19:30] <jrwren> nope
[19:32] <cmaloney> damn
[20:38] <greg-g> still nope
[20:39] <cmaloney> dammit
[20:47] <jrwren> nope, but getting a little better here.
[20:48] <jrwren> my work MBP has a bloating battery... after over an hour on the phone wiht apple... the resolution is IBM coming to my house to replace the battery.
[20:48] <jrwren> I'm tickled that IBM is now Apple's on site support service provider.
[20:53] <_stink_> haha
[21:08] <cmaloney> whut?


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[01:36] <xnox> cascardo:  apw: sforshee: copying up linux-riscv linux-meta-riscv from groovy-proposed to hirsute-proposed, as hirsute is stuck on groovy-release.
[01:37] <xnox> also not sure, but I am wondering if linux-riscv is no longer compatible with recent opensbi, or maybe i am booting it wrong
[01:37] <xnox> will file a bugreport
[06:34] <ginggs> pandas should migrate in the next run
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[07:09] <vorlon> reverting python3-defaults 3.9.0-3 from -proposed temporarily; it makes gobject-introspection uninstallable and breaks the ongoing ghc rebuilds
[07:10] <vorlon> (looks like gobject-introspection itself just needs a no-change rebuild; still, things are in-flight)
[08:15] <apw> xnox, we don't copy kernels forward now ... we build forward ports
[08:15] <apw> (admittedly that isn't moving as fast as it should)
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[09:10] <mwhudson> numpy migrated ohhhh emmm geeee
[09:12] <mwhudson> why hasn't excuses updates for nearly three hours?
[09:17] <Laney> it's requesting millions of tests to verify python3-defaults that got removed :(
[09:17] <Laney> ima kill this run and let it start again without that available
[09:20] <doko> vorlon: you restored libguestfs, but kept perl4caml
[09:24] <mwhudson> Laney: ah hah
[09:27] <doko> it's not that excuse updates were fast before, also took ~3h
[09:28] <Laney> no
[09:29] <Laney> more like 2 :-)
[09:30] <doko> so how do I restore  perl4caml 0.9.5-5build6 in -proposed?
[09:31] <doko> remove  0.9.5-5build7, copy  0.9.5-5build6 to the same series?
[09:32] <Laney> yes
[09:32] <tjaalton> sil2100: yo, libclc uploaded for hwe stack, after that it's mesa
[09:32] <doko> and after that,  0.9.5-5build7 is restorable?
[09:35] <Laney> should be
[09:39] <doko> let's wait for the next two britney runs, 5h...
[09:41] <doko> Laney: did you try to run britney using pypy3?
[09:48] <doko> hmm, python-apt as a C extension. but nothing else
[09:51] <sil2100> tjaalton: sweet!
[10:04] <Laney> doko: no, but that's probably not the problem, if you read any of the logs it's spending almost all the time hitting a remote https server to look for new test results
[10:04] <Laney> we should get those in bulk in advance somehow
[10:08] <doko> rbalint: do you want to look at vim/armhf or should I ?
[10:09] <doko> ahh, apparently somebody retried, and it built
[10:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libclc [source] (focal-proposed) [0.2.0+git20190827-7~ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[10:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: vtk6 (xenial-proposed/universe) [6.2.0+dfsg1-10build1 => 6.2.0+dfsg1-10ubuntu0.1] (no packageset)
[10:22] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks doko for caring about perl4caml, not sure why it wasn't shown as blocker before
[10:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ec2-instance-connect [source] (groovy-proposed) [1.1.12+dfsg1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[10:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ec2-instance-connect [source] (focal-proposed) [1.1.12+dfsg1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
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[10:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ec2-instance-connect [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.1.12+dfsg1-0ubuntu3~16.04.1]
[10:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-gcp-5.4 [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [5.4.0-1030.32~18.04.1]
[10:53] <doko> cpaelzer: https://patches.ubuntu.com/o/openjade/openjade_1.4devel1-21.3ubuntu1.patch that seems to segfault everywhere now ...
[10:59] <doko> cpaelzer: samba would need merging, will block python3.9
[11:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mesa (focal-proposed/main) [20.0.8-0ubuntu1~20.04.1 => 20.2.1-1~ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (core, i386-whitelist, xorg)
[11:01] <tjaalton> sil2100: and there's mesa ^ :)
[11:03] <doko> ahh, you uploaded openjade an hour ago
[11:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openzwave [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/multiverse) [1.6+ds-2] (no packageset)
[11:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: fwupd (hirsute-proposed/main) [1.5.1-4 => 1.5.1-5] (core)
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[11:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ceres-solver (xenial-proposed/universe) [1.11.0~dfsg0-2 => 1.11.0~dfsg0-2ubuntu0.1] (no packageset)
[11:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: fwupd (hirsute-proposed/main) [1.5.1-5 => 1.5.1-5] (core)
[11:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openzwave [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/multiverse) [1.6+ds-2] (no packageset)
[11:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: fwupd (hirsute-proposed/main) [1.5.1-5 => 1.5.1-5] (core)
[11:42] <cpaelzer> doko: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pgpool2/+bug/1869734
[11:43] <cpaelzer> doko: I have seen it just an hour before you and started on this case again
[11:43] <cpaelzer> samba is sergiodj now *ping*
[11:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openzwave [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/multiverse) [1.6+ds-2] (no packageset)
[11:44] <cpaelzer> doko: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjade/1.4devel1-21.3ubuntu2 is already complete and formerly FTFBS (due to openjade) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pgpool2/4.1.4-2 built fine now on all architectures
[11:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openzwave [armhf] (hirsute-proposed/multiverse) [1.6+ds-2] (no packageset)
[11:45] <cpaelzer> doko: do you happen to know if there are more packages breaking on openjade that need to have their build restarted?
[11:45] <xnox> sil2100:  could you please promote microcode-initrd to main, in focal-updates? it is in main in later releases, but as NEW-SRU it went into universe by default.
[11:46] <cpaelzer> I was looking at that for postgresql* which needs the new pgpool2 to pass autopkgtest, therefore I've not looked for "other openjade impacts" yet
[11:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: pbbam [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.6.0+dfsg-2] (no packageset)
[11:46] <doko> cpaelzer: Reverse-Build-Depends
[11:46] <doko> * gtkextra                      (for openjade)
[11:46] <doko> * kannel-sqlbox                 (for openjade)
[11:46] <doko> * libdbi-drivers                (for openjade)
[11:46] <doko> * opensp                        (for openjade)
[11:46] <doko> * pgpool2                       (for openjade)
[11:46] <doko> * slony1-2                      (for openjade)
[11:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-azure [amd64] (xenial-proposed/main) [4.15.0-1100.111~16.04.1] (kernel)
[11:48] <cpaelzer> yeah but of those pgpool2 was the only one broken atm
[11:48] <doko> then it looks good
[11:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openzwave [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [1.6+ds-2]
[11:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openzwave [armhf] (hirsute-proposed) [1.6+ds-2]
[11:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openzwave [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [1.6+ds-2]
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[11:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openzwave [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [1.6+ds-2]
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[11:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openzwave [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [1.6+ds-2]
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[11:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: pbbam [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.6.0+dfsg-2] (no packageset)
[11:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pbbam [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [1.6.0+dfsg-2]
[11:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pbbam [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [1.6.0+dfsg-2]
[11:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-azure [amd64] (xenial-proposed) [4.15.0-1100.111~16.04.1]
[11:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-oracle [amd64] (xenial-proposed) [4.15.0-1059.65~16.04.1]
[11:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-oem-5.10 [amd64] (focal-proposed) [5.10.0-1004.5]
[12:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: s390-tools (bionic-proposed/main) [2.3.0-0ubuntu3.5 => 2.3.0-0ubuntu3.6] (core)
[12:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mesa [source] (focal-proposed) [20.2.1-1~ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[12:50] <sil2100> xnox: sure, will look into that
[13:02] <slyon> Hey! Could a release-team member please merge this hint for me? https://code.launchpad.net/~slyon/britney/+git/hints-ubuntu/+merge/394173 I did lots of test yesterday, trying to improve the situation. But etcd behaves arbitrarily, so I decided to add a hint.
[13:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-release-upgrader [source] (groovy-proposed) [1:20.10.14]
[13:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: pbseqlib [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [5.3.4+dfsg-3] (no packageset)
[13:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: pbseqlib [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [5.3.4+dfsg-3] (no packageset)
[13:12] <sil2100> slyon: looking o/
[13:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-release-upgrader [source] (focal-proposed) [1:20.04.29]
[13:15] <sil2100> Done
[13:15] <doko> now, hivex is entangled. removing hivex and supermin, will restore later
[13:16] <slyon> thanks!
[13:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pbseqlib [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [5.3.4+dfsg-3]
[13:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pbseqlib [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [5.3.4+dfsg-3]
[13:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: pbseqlib [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [5.3.4+dfsg-3] (no packageset)
[13:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-release-upgrader [source] (bionic-proposed) [1:18.04.41]
[13:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pbseqlib [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [5.3.4+dfsg-3]
[13:51] <rbalint> plusone what's being work on and what to look at?
[13:54] <cpaelzer> rbalint: since it is tied with perl FYI I'm looking for postgresql which now is down to just multicorn (and another britney run to pick up those being fixed)
[13:55] <rbalint> cpaelzer, as i see ghc also needs to go in before perl, but now it built on all arches and many rdep's build succeeded
[13:56] <cpaelzer> oh ghc was postponed for quite some time, mwhudson was the last I remember looking at it
[13:58] <doko> we need to wait for ghc. packages are all built, and I gave back failed tests
[13:58] <cpaelzer> I barely touched ghc, but I unblocked a bunch of haskell* things with cyrus-imapd this morning https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/c/cyrus-imapd/hirsute/ppc64el
[13:59] <cpaelzer> so of the many this is one fail you don't have to look into (just wait to be reflected on excuses)
[14:00] <cpaelzer> Note: the sync has rpc.h issues which is due to glibc2.32 (vs libtirpc)
[14:00] <cpaelzer> but it now considers this skippable, so it is no blocking problem anymore
[14:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected libreoffice [sync] (groovy-proposed) [1:7.0.3-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[14:02] <rbalint> plusone i've created LP: #1904880 , is it a duplicate?
[14:05] <rbalint> plusone anyone looking at perl's regressions?
[14:05] <doko> rbalint: read the backlog
 doko: no, but that's probably not the problem, if you read any of the logs it's spending almost all the time hitting a remote https server to look for new test results
 we should get those in bulk in advance somehow
[14:06] <doko> Laney: a closing message on update_excuses.html how long the run took would be nice
[14:09] <rbalint> doko, thanks, i've added the idea to the bug
[14:11] <cpaelzer> In the context of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postgresql-13/+bug/1902059/comments/9 I'd ask to either merge https://code.launchpad.net/~paelzer/britney/+git/hints-ubuntu/+merge/394179 OR remove postgresql-multicorn.
[14:12] <cpaelzer> I'm hereby asking the currently active AAs doko & Laney what of these options would be preferred (and why if you have the time to explain).
[14:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: v4l2loopback (focal-proposed/universe) [0.12.3-1ubuntu0.2 => 0.12.3-1ubuntu0.3] (no packageset)
[14:13] <doko> I'm on +1 ;p
[14:14] <rbalint> plusone i'm looking at the perl regressions
[14:14] <doko> cpaelzer: removing
[14:14] <cpaelzer> thank you
[14:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: iptables-netflow (focal-proposed/universe) [2.4-2ubuntu0.1 => 2.4-2ubuntu0.2] (no packageset)
[14:21] <xnox> sil2100: for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/u-boot/2020.10+dfsg-1ubuntu0~18.04.1 can you process the binary NEW please? I.e. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=u-boot ? ditto https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=u-boot ?
[14:21] <xnox> otherwise it doesn't publish.
[14:22] <rbalint> plusone retried many tests with "Failed to fetch http://ftpmaster"
[14:32] <sil2100> o/
[14:34] <sil2100> xnox: thanks for the heads up! I again forgot about the binNEW queue, eh
[14:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted u-boot [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [2020.10+dfsg-1ubuntu0~18.04.1]
[14:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted u-boot [amd64] (focal-proposed) [2020.10+dfsg-1ubuntu0~20.04.1]
[14:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted u-boot [arm64] (bionic-proposed) [2020.10+dfsg-1ubuntu0~18.04.1]
[14:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted u-boot [riscv64] (focal-proposed) [2020.10+dfsg-1ubuntu0~20.04.1]
[14:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: adcli (focal-proposed/main) [0.9.0-1 => 0.9.0-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[14:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: adcli (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.8.2-1 => 0.8.2-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[14:50] <rbalint> plusone there are a few dozen failures in perl tests missing recommends which are only installable in -proposed, i'm retrying those with all-proposed
[15:03] <rbalint> plusone perl seems to be ok by the time all tests finish
[15:04] <rbalint> plusone it needs this hint https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/britney/+git/hints-ubuntu/+merge/394180 but i may add a few more packages
[15:04] <sergiodj> cpaelzer: doko: pong about samba
[15:05] <doko> sergiodj: merge please
[15:06] <sergiodj> doko: I'll add a card to our board, will get to it soon
[15:11] <rbalint> plusone i'm retrying all s390x regressions to see what got fixed and worth retrying on other slower arches
[15:11] <rbalint> plusone that's ~300 tests
[15:13] <rbalint> plusone any objection?
[15:15] <doko> rbalint: keep in mind that I already gave back the haskell related ones
[15:17] <rbalint> doko, ok, i skip the ones having haskell in the name
[15:18] <rbalint> doko, that was only one :-)
[15:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sssd (bionic-proposed/main) [1.16.1-1ubuntu1.6 => 1.16.1-1ubuntu1.7] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[15:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sssd (focal-proposed/main) [2.2.3-3 => 2.2.3-3ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[15:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ndiswrapper (focal-proposed/universe) [1.60-8ubuntu2 => 1.60-8ubuntu3] (no packageset)
[16:16] <vorlon> python3-defaults 3.9.0-3 restored to -proposed (because ghc is ready to go \o/)
[16:17] <vorlon> doko: are you planning to manage no-change rebuilds against python3.9?  (e.g. should I hold off on rebuilding gobject-introspection, which is uninstallable and causes pain)
[16:18] <doko> vorlon: I have everything prepared here
[16:18] <vorlon> doko: ok cheers
[17:08] <vorlon> rbalint: fyi, RT#127896 re ppc64el down in bos01
[17:09] <vorlon> Laney: ^^ based on the latest updates on that RT, should we try bringing bos01/ppc64el back up?
[17:09] <vorlon> or do something else to validate whether it's working
[17:10] <Laney> vorlon: Try to start an instance at all, they were just totally not working
[17:10] <Laney> in that update the SRE looked at lxd specific stuff but if it is also affecting proposed-migration too that seems like the wrong place
[17:11] <Laney> well maybe some of the other actions were more all encompassing
[17:12]  * Laney nova boot
[17:12]  * vorlon nods
[17:13] <vorlon> Server building... 0% complete
[17:13] <vorlon> is that what you've seen before?
[17:14] <vorlon> Laney: and if that ticket is being addressed at a lxd-specific layer, should we open a separate RT?
[17:15] <Laney> we should add a comment saying be aware this is not specific to one tenant
[17:16] <vorlon> ah nova boot returned
[17:16] <Laney> yeah can take a while to get scheduled
[17:17] <vorlon> Laney: ok it's booted but unreachable
[17:18] <Laney> vorlon: ok, sounds unfixed as expected then - feel free to add another comment to this effect and clarify that it's our tenant too
[17:18] <vorlon> ack
[17:19] <Laney> dunno if you can do anything to raise the priority, seems people work on it for an hour or so, fail to fix it and then drop the task for the next person to start again on ...
[17:20] <doko> vorlon: could you waive the tests triggered by doxygen? that's the last package preventing the ocaml transition, and starting with python3 (llvm) would entangle it with ocaml again
[17:20] <vorlon> doko: looking
[17:21] <vorlon> doko: hmm so the new version is built with a new compiler, is there no concern that the behavior may break as a result?
[17:22] <doko> vorlon: the tests pass, and we had never problems updating LLVM for doxygen in the past
[17:22] <doko> doxgen's test themself
[17:23] <doko> all amd64 test already pass, arm64/armhf/ppc64el still running
[17:25] <vorlon> ok
[17:25] <vorlon> agreed, skip-test is reasonable here
[17:27] <doko> vorlon: wait, I asked for the wrong thing. not the tests by doxygen itself, these can wait. but waive the doxygen test triggered by llvm-toolchain-11
[17:27] <vorlon> doko: ah ok
[17:28] <vorlon> doko: done
[17:50] <doko> gobject-introspection is uploaded. I'm waiting with the other uploads until ocml migrates
[17:55] <Laney> I wonder if the python3-defaults tests will get re-triggered
[17:58] <doko> Laney: if not, that's ok. just let the no-change uploads happen, and then re-upload
[18:07] <doko> hrm, https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/ghc.html  shows again 24 unknown packages ...
[18:10] <doko> ahh, all the ocaml migration messages are coming in
[18:11] <rbalint> \o/
[18:13] <kyrofa> Hey sil2100 I have a high-priority SRU for vtk in Xenial in bug #1573234, any chance you can help me get it into -proposed?
[18:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (bionic-proposed/main) [2.47.1+18.04 => 2.48+18.04] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[18:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (groovy-proposed/main) [2.47.1+20.10.1 => 2.48+20.10] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
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[18:17] <xnox> apw:  can you please unblock linux-riscv/linux-meta-riscv in hirsute? such that <IP_ADDRESS>.8 / 5.8.0-8.9 can migrate there, to match what's in groovy-updates already?
[18:17] <xnox> cause the one in hirsute-release doesn't even boot =)
[18:18] <xnox> or should we just copy up the -9 one? as that's in groovy-proposed now.
[18:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: supermin (hirsute-proposed/primary) [5.2.0-2ubuntu1]
[18:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: hivex (hirsute-proposed/primary) [1.3.19-1ubuntu2]
[18:29] <sil2100> kyrofa: looking o/
[18:32] <sil2100> kyrofa: ok, looks sane
[18:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted vtk6 [source] (xenial-proposed) [6.2.0+dfsg1-10ubuntu0.1]
[18:32] <vorlon> doko: the tracker tracks installability in -proposed, and when I re-added python3 the gi stack became uninstallable /in proposed/ but doesn't block migration
[18:34] <doko> confusing
[18:35] <doko> vorlon: I restored libguestfs
[18:38] <LocutusOfBorg> doko, I don't think libguestfs was already copied
[18:38] <doko> hmm
[18:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted hivex [sync] (hirsute-proposed) [1.3.19-1ubuntu2]
[18:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted supermin [sync] (hirsute-proposed) [5.2.0-2ubuntu1]
[18:42] <doko> didn't get a reject message either. anyway, afk for now
[18:47] <LocutusOfBorg> ok libguestfs was not copied because of supermin and hivex
[18:47] <LocutusOfBorg> so I'm not sure how ocaml could migrate... meh
[18:49] <LocutusOfBorg> any archive-admin to process missing build on s390x: polyphone (from <IP_ADDRESS>00612+dfsg1-1)
[18:49] <LocutusOfBorg> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=974880 please?
[19:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-azure [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [5.8.0-1013.14+21.04.1]
[19:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-gcp [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [5.8.0-1012.12+21.04.1]
[19:26] <mwhudson> has anyone retried all the scipy autopkgtest regressions now that numpy has migrated?
[19:27] <rbalint> mwhudson i've retried everything on s390x
[19:27] <rbalint> plusone retrying all tests for setuptools, they passed on s390x
[19:42] <LocutusOfBorg> rbalint, somebody should retry all ppc64el failures too
[19:43] <LocutusOfBorg> fixed binutils fixed ghc/llvm/blender and lots of other stuff on ppc64el
[19:43] <vorlon> retrying them all is just going to fill the queues immediately prior to the datacenter downtime this weekend
[19:43] <vorlon> so maybe be strategic about what you requeue right now
[19:47] <rbalint> LocutusOfBorg, plusone i'm going up from the bottom retrying promising ones
[19:47] <LocutusOfBorg> sure, I don't plan to do them
[19:47] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon,
[19:47] <LocutusOfBorg> missing build on armhf: doctest, libghc-doctest-dev, libghc-doctest-prof (from 0.16.3-1build4)
[19:47] <LocutusOfBorg> arch:armhf not built yet, autopkgtest delayed there
[19:47] <LocutusOfBorg> this looks meh to me
[19:47] <LocutusOfBorg> did you forget to copy back one binary?
[19:47] <LocutusOfBorg> because it is published, but britney is lacking it, and stops the migration
[19:47] <LocutusOfBorg>  libghc-doctest-dev | 0.16.3-1build3   | hirsute-proposed/universe | amd64, arm64, ppc64el, riscv64, s390x
[19:48] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: no, I didn't forget anything; launchpad allowed the armhf build to be published after I deleted the build4 source
[19:48] <LocutusOfBorg> maybe slow armhf published after your rollback?
[19:48] <vorlon> I've deleted the binaries and re-copied and hopefully it works
[19:48] <LocutusOfBorg> yes, that one sure, can you please do some magic? thanks
[19:48] <vorlon> (also, when doing a binary copy you don't get to pick which binaries are copied)
[19:48] <vorlon> doko flagged this to me earlier, so it should be done soon
[19:48] <LocutusOfBorg> racy race conditions are racy...
[19:49] <LocutusOfBorg> I hope to see ghc migrate now, I don't know if it is entangled or not...
[19:57] <vorlon> fyi https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hirsute/armhf/libghc-doctest-prof
[19:58] <vorlon> looks like my first copy failed silently due to racing the deletion
[19:58] <vorlon> well, actually no, the timing on that predates this conversation, so it did work but took time to publish
[19:59] <vorlon> anyway, it's not in the current britney run, so expect to wait 2+ hours for the next result :P
[20:00] <LocutusOfBorg> :)
[20:01] <LocutusOfBorg> what worries me is that (this is only a feeling), looking e.g. at ocaml, I saw only libguestfs being a blocker, after removing it, another one was blocking, and then another one again
[20:01] <LocutusOfBorg> is britney stopping at the first blocker?
[20:03] <rbalint> vorlon, could you please merge https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/autopkgtest-cloud/+git/autopkgtest-cloud/+merge/394205 for sshuttle?
[20:08] <rbalint> vorlon, also for mercurial https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/autopkgtest-cloud/+git/autopkgtest-cloud/+merge/394206
[20:20] <rbalint> vorlon, what script do you use for dropping obsolete hints? it would be better to have it in git so we could run it and maybe fix some corner cases
[20:30] <vorlon> rbalint: that's the wrong file to update for amd64 (mercurial)
[20:30] <vorlon> rbalint: you want worker.conf instead (amd64 compute is not in bos01)
[20:30] <vorlon> not sure why we have a bos01 non-arch-qualified config anyway
[20:35] <rbalint> vorlon, thanks, fixed
[20:37] <doko> vim binds perl & python :-/
[20:54] <vorlon> rbalint: both merges done, and deployed
[20:55] <LocutusOfBorg> rbalint, autopkgtest for petsc4py/3.14.0-2: amd64: Pass, arm64: Regression ♻ , armhf: Pass, i386: Ignored failure, ppc64el: Regression ♻ , s390x: Pass
[20:55] <LocutusOfBorg> do you think we can try on big packages?
[20:56] <LocutusOfBorg> because we are pretty sure the failures are related to ram...
[20:56] <vorlon> rbalint: wrt scripts for obsolete hints, they're not great, which is why I haven't pushed them anywhere and also haven't run them in a long time
[21:17] <rbalint> LocutusOfBorg, i  retried petsc4py tests, let's see how they go
[21:18] <LocutusOfBorg> rbalint, we tried before focal release, and I think I remember they were OOM
[21:18] <LocutusOfBorg> I even found the minimum ram requested to make them work, but I forgot
[21:21] <LocutusOfBorg> can anybody please process giac removals? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=974066
[21:21] <LocutusOfBorg> and https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=974880 please
[21:25] <rbalint> LocutusOfBorg, indeed
[21:25] <rbalint> LocutusOfBorg, i'm filing an mr
[21:26] <LocutusOfBorg> <3
[21:26] <rbalint> LocutusOfBorg, thanks
[21:35] <rbalint> LocutusOfBorg, vorlon https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/autopkgtest-cloud/+git/autopkgtest-cloud/+merge/394209
[21:36] <rbalint> plusone i've also retried mercurial and sshuttle
[21:58] <rbalint> mwhudson, pulsone
[21:58] <rbalint> mwhudson, pulsone i think no one retried scipy tests, i'm doing it
[22:18] <mwhudson> rbalint: ah yeah i didn't get to it yet
[22:18] <mwhudson> thanks
[22:28] <rbalint> plusone mwhudson, i retry all sphinx ons, too, and retry all s390x regressions (181) with hello to use them as baseline for filing hints
[22:52] <Laney> looks like a bunch of tests are failing with
[22:53] <Laney> Removing ubuntu-minimal (1.459) ...
[22:53] <Laney> Removing netplan.io (0.100-0ubuntu5) ...
[22:53] <Laney> etc
[22:53] <Laney> possibly 3.9-as-default rebuilds, they're not getting python3.9 as a trigger
[22:54] <Laney> no
[22:55] <Laney> The following packages have unmet dependencies: python3-yaml : Depends: python3 (< 3.9) but 3.9.0-3 is to be installed
[22:55] <Laney> it's transient-ness
[22:55] <Laney> transitive*
[22:58] <Laney> vorlon: not sure if you want to upload a rebuild of pyyaml to make ubuntu-minimal installable in proposed ...
[22:58]  * Laney is just passing through atm
[22:59] <Laney> no no, it might be missing trigger on pyyaml from proposed
[23:00] <Laney> anyway, heads up, lots of failures unless that is addressed, could kill the requests and requeue them with that trigger or all-proposed
[23:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libmatio [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.5.19-2] (no packageset)
[23:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libmatio [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.5.19-2] (no packageset)
[23:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libmatio [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.5.19-2] (no packageset)


[05:40] <Linuxs> anyone here? I need help
[05:41] <Linuxs> Anytime I boot off a live cd, I get an Edd: error 1000 at 321148
[05:41] <Linuxs> What does that mean? I can't reinstall my OS
[05:44] <Linuxs> Where is everyone?
[05:45] <holstein> Linuxs: i would confirm the downloaded iso, and the media
[05:45] <holstein> theres also a memory test you can run, and i would take the time to test the hard drive
[05:46] <Linuxs> I've tried numerous Isos
[05:46] <Linuxs> Lubuntu and Trisquel
[05:46] <Linuxs> Both give errors and won't boot
[05:46] <holstein> Linuxs: thats 2
[05:46] <holstein> and they were downloaded on the same internet?
[05:46] <Linuxs> And Sabyon gave that error
[05:46] <Linuxs> Yes
[05:46] <Linuxs> I was scared that this was a hdd problem
[05:46] <holstein> i used to have DSL... couldnt get a download...you shoule *confirm* the downloaded isos
[05:46] <holstein> the checksums
[05:47] <holstein> then you'll know for certain, and you can move on
[05:47] <holstein> Linuxs: unplug the hard drive if you would like to take it out of the equation
[05:47] <Linuxs> I don't know hot to do that and I would be too nervous of trying
[05:48] <holstein> Linuxs: OK.. then confirm the MD5 sums, or whatever... and check the media... run the memory test.. get *something* booting live somehow and run a tet on the hard drive
[05:48] <Unit193> Can he get to the "Check CD for defects" section?
[05:49] <holstein> yup, that would be the 'check media' step Linuxs ^^
[05:49] <holstein> you can skip right to that
[05:49] <holstein> thats probably easier...
[05:49] <Unit193> And checks the burn
[05:50] <Linuxs> I tried, the error happens when I choose check for defects too
[05:50] <Linuxs> It won't get off the grub screen
[05:51] <holstein> yup.. sounds very much like a hardware issue to me
[05:51] <holstein> but, i would still confirm the MD5 sums
[05:51] <holstein> i would try and use a bootable USB stick... taking the optical drive out of the equation
[05:52] <Linuxs> I only have one USB stick and it's ruined
[05:52] <Linuxs> Mostly from trying to boot an OS off of it.  :(
[05:52] <holstein> you'll just have to test, remove variables, test... etc... and experiment til you sort it out... or take it in to someone else to do that
[05:53] <Linuxs> Odd thing is that Puppy linux will still boot and it's the only OS that won't give that stupid error
[05:53] <holstein> Linuxs: how does puppy boot though... from the hard drive?
[05:53] <holstein> that means the optical drive could still be bad
[05:53] <Linuxs> From live cd
[05:54] <Linuxs> I'm thinking that my laptop burner is defective though
[05:54] <holstein> thats still plausible
[05:54] <holstein> if you made that puppy disc a long time ago
[05:55] <Linuxs> I don't know what it is.
[05:55] <Linuxs> Howver the EDD: error 1000 at sector 321148 thing still worries me.  My computer is pretty old
[05:56] <holstein> hardware is cheap these days
[05:56] <holstein> you can probably run tests from puppy then
[05:57] <Linuxs> Well, I have PCBSD installed on it and I'm trying to get it off because no Linux will read it's file system
[05:59] <holstein> Linuxs: ufs?
[05:59] <Linuxs> Yeah
[05:59] <holstein> http://ghantoos.org/2009/04/04/mounting-ufs-in-readwrite-under-linux/
[06:01] <Linuxs> Well, Urk I say. Puppy Linux can't do Apt
[06:01] <Linuxs> Apt package management doesn't come with it.
[06:04] <holstein> http://puppylinux.org/main/Download%20Latest%20Release.htm
[06:04] <holstein> you want the 2nd one.. the 'lucid' compatible build
[06:04] <Linuxs> I have the slacko build.
[06:06] <holstein> cool... this seems more generic
[06:06] <holstein> you just need to focus in, and choose what you want to do
[06:07] <holstein> this is all open technology, so if you want to read ufs or zfs, you can... it just might not be easy, or stable
[06:07] <Linuxs> I don't really have those kind of tech skills.  :(
[06:07] <holstein> if you want to get apt in puppy, you can.. http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Debianization
[06:08] <holstein> so, instead of 'no linux can read...' you can say 'i dont want to bother with ufs support'
[06:08] <holstein> i mean... i dont want to bother with it either ;)
[06:10] <Linuxs> Ufs, EXT, I just want my computer back so that I can get some work done.
[06:10] <holstein> maybe you should ask a friend to burn you an iso, or let you borrow a USB stick
[06:11] <holstein> sounds to me like you have a hardware problem, and those can be challening to track down
[06:11] <Linuxs> Hmmm :(
[06:12] <Linuxs> I have to go.  I'll try something and if it doesn't work, I'm sunk.
[06:12] <holstein> i literally do the steps im mentioning to you... i test each part as isolated as i can... reducing variables
[06:12] <holstein> i use http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[06:12] <holstein> Linuxs: if it doesnt work, you have decided to give up, and thats fine... you can take it in to someone :)
[06:13] <Linuxs> :(
[06:13] <holstein> if its an old box, just give up one it... hardware is too cheap these days.. i have some decent P4's with a gig of ram or so that i got for nothing
[06:13] <holstein> if you were nearby, you could have one :)
[06:13] <Linuxs> Is this ultimate bootcd free?
[06:13] <holstein> Linuxs: yup
[06:14] <holstein> i use that to test hard drives and other things... there are other live diagnostic CD's though
[06:14] <Linuxs> I may have to save up for an external hard drive and partition that.
[06:14] <holstein> doesnt matter what else you have plugged in, if you cant boot an image
[06:15] <holstein> maybe save up for a USB stick
[06:15] <Linuxs> *nods*
[06:15] <holstein> those always come in handy
[06:15] <Linuxs> I agree
[06:16] <Linuxs> However my Laptop has been giving out errors alot during burning, so I have to consider that the burner is defective
[06:16] <holstein> or the motherboard... or ram.. or whatever
[06:16] <Linuxs> Too many issues with hardware.
[06:16] <holstein> ram can be challening to discover, though easy to deal with
[06:17] <holstein> bad ram can really just be odd though
[06:17] <holstein> the few times ive had bad ram, its either just a dead box, or some really odd behavior
[06:17] <Linuxs> Anyway, I have to do this one last try before I have to go to sleep
[06:17] <Linuxs> thank you for your help.
[10:54] <tobiasmichel> Hi, just installed lubuntu-desktop and i cannot find how to change the desktop background. right click on desktop dosn't work anymore, because i changed something there, which i don't know how to redo it.
[11:34] <]Spectre[> Hi guys, I need an hint, I want to grab a screenshot under the lxde desktop manager,can you help me ? I tried with the key "printscreen"  but after that I can't paste it on the gimp
[11:38] <MrChrisDruif> ]Spectre[; Did you look in your home folder?
[11:39] <]Spectre[> going to see
[11:40] <]Spectre[> MrChrisDruif: fantastic :D
[11:40] <MrChrisDruif> I know I am, but I don't like to brag ;-)
[12:27] <david_j_r> Got an odd one here: just installed "vim-gnome" from Synaptic, and cannot find it *anywhere*! Any ideas?
[12:27] <david_j_r> Didn't show up in any applications menu, and trying to run "vim-gnome" in terminal gets a "not found".
[12:28] <david_j_r> Running "vim" alone just gets me vim in terminal, not the GUI.
[12:29] <david_j_r> Ha. That's because you need to run "gvim".
[12:29] <david_j_r> :/
[12:29] <david_j_r> Sorry about that (in case anyone was listening).
[12:29] <david_j_r> Now need to find a way to add it to menus...
[12:33] <MrChrisDruif> david_j_r; go on with your monologue
[12:33] <MrChrisDruif> Does it have a .desktop that gvim david_j_r ?
[12:33] <david_j_r> Was just going to ask if anyone has a "vim.desktop" file handy, do let me know. ;)
[12:33] <david_j_r> Just looking now - I don't think so.
[12:34] <david_j_r> Ha - what do you know - it does!
[12:34] <MrChrisDruif> Of course it does!
[12:34] <MrChrisDruif> I know all ^_^ (in my dreams)
[12:34] <david_j_r> :)
[12:35] <david_j_r> It has this line:
[12:35] <david_j_r> Categories=Utility;TextEditor;
[12:35] <david_j_r> but neither of those categories exist, and it didn't create them.
[12:35] <david_j_r> Will stick it in "Programming"
[12:36] <MrChrisDruif> To show other Categories in Gnome2 you had to edit the menu manually, I think the same is true for LXDE
[12:36] <]Spectre[> can anyone give me an help on vlc under lubuntu ? I already tried to ask on the videolan channel,but without success
[12:37] <MrChrisDruif> !ask
[12:37] <]Spectre[> I'm trying to play a dvd,with both gnome mplayer and vlc I get a black window for a second and nothing more when I try to play a dvd
[12:37] <MrChrisDruif> !restricted
[12:38] <MrChrisDruif> ^_^
[12:38] <]Spectre[> thanks ;)
[12:38] <MrChrisDruif> You probably need to install lubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:38] <]Spectre[> mmm,doing that
[12:42] <MrChrisDruif> ]Spectre[; how's it going?
[12:43] <]Spectre[> MrChrisDruif: still installing
[12:44] <MrChrisDruif> You did install Lubuntu extras right?
[12:44] <]Spectre[> yes
[12:44] <]Spectre[> it does the same :(
[12:45] <]Spectre[> also with gnome mplayer integrated in lubuntu :(
[12:45] <]Spectre[> I try to restart the system
[12:46] <MrChrisDruif> Did also do that .sh?
[12:46] <MrChrisDruif> "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh"
[12:51] <]Spectre[> nothing...
[12:51] <]Spectre[> I'll see it on the tv
[12:51] <]Spectre[> don't worry
[12:51] <]Spectre[>  :)
[12:52] <MrChrisDruif> ]Spectre[; http://blip.tv/ubuntu-switcher/lubuntu-codecs-3499346
[12:53] <]Spectre[> thanks,going to see
[12:57] <]Spectre[> nothing... don't worry :)
[12:58] <]Spectre[> is not mandatory to me to see movies on the computer...
[12:59] <MrChrisDruif> For me it's one of the prerequisites
[12:59] <]Spectre[> :)
[13:09] <]Spectre[> MrChrisDruif: found a solution
[13:09] <]Spectre[> now it works
[13:09] <]Spectre[> but I don't know why...
[13:09] <]Spectre[> well
[13:09] <MrChrisDruif> What did you do?
[13:10] <]Spectre[> I've found that I need to install the libdvdread4 on internet
[13:10] <]Spectre[> I checked on synaptic and it was already installed
[13:10] <]Spectre[> so I wrote "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh" for curiosity
[13:10] <]Spectre[> and now I can see dvd
[13:10] <]Spectre[> may be that the libdvdread4 is installed by default but is not configured ?
[13:11] <bioterror> VLC shows dvd's without a problem AFAIR
[13:11] <]Spectre[> bioterror: is not true,at least on my computer
[13:12] <MrChrisDruif> ]Spectre[; why didn't you do that command when I asked you to?
[13:12] <MrChrisDruif> =P
[13:15] <]Spectre[> MrChrisDruif: I didn't see that :P sorry
[13:15] <]Spectre[> thanks anyway
[13:15] <MrChrisDruif> Ow, didn't mention you there
[13:16] <MrChrisDruif> I thought that nothing... was in response to my sudo command
[13:17] <]Spectre[> now it works like a charm ! :D
[13:18] <]Spectre[> I love lubuntu
[13:19] <xsteadfastx> oh me too :)
[13:19] <MrChrisDruif> Good to hear boys
[13:24] <]Spectre[> I don't have the time,otherwise I was already helping (as I can ) the development community
[13:25] <david_j_r> MrChrisDruif; about that Gvim in menu thing: the setting I needed was "Categories=Development;" not "Programming" - fwiw!
[13:25] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, seems legit
[13:27] <david_j_r> Thanks (once again) for your help - reassuring to have a calming presence here. :)
[13:28] <betadoctor> hi all
[13:28] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha betadoctor
[13:29] <betadoctor> ive been trying toresolve my "stuck at 640*480" issue ..
[13:30] <betadoctor> not having much luck ..
[13:30] <MrChrisDruif> Seems like a graphics problem
[13:30] <MrChrisDruif> 640*480 is an emergency resolution afaik
[13:30] <betadoctor> it is .. ive tried several approaches but to no veil
[13:31] <betadoctor> monitor is not detected properly i think .. xconf.org tell me its a 'default monitor'
[13:31] <MrChrisDruif> And with an other OS (e.g. Windows) it works properly?
[13:31] <betadoctor> yup
[13:31] <MrChrisDruif> Weird
[13:31] <betadoctor> it works fine until in install 'addition drivers'
[13:32] <betadoctor> for my NVIDIA card .. then things go awol
[13:32] <MrChrisDruif> Hmm, I'm not a fan of proprietary drivers myself ^_^
[13:32] <MrChrisDruif> ATI, which got about the same problem...slightly less
[13:34] <betadoctor> ok .. i can fix it by reinstalling , wich i will .. about these proprietary drivers .. are they a must ? . my only goal is to keep my OS lightweight ..
[13:34] <betadoctor> can i do without he addition 'performance' of these drivers ?
[13:36] <betadoctor> just looking for a bit of advice i guess :)
[13:39] <betadoctor> so for a lightweith OS i just forget about these proprietary drivers (if the give issues) ?
[13:41] <MrChrisDruif> I guess so. I'm using GNOME Shell without proprietary drivers
[13:45] <betadoctor> ok ty for the advice .. ill be re-installing now :) .. cheers !
[14:30] <hosoka> hallo allemaal
[14:30] <hosoka> alles goed hier ?
[14:31] <hosoka> zijn er mensen hier van de Lubuntu team ?
[14:32] <hosoka> hello
[14:33] <hosoka> can anyone know if the Lubuntu with the LXDM has autologin option working ?
[14:50] <phillw> hosoka: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_to_enable_automatic_logon_in_LXDM should work?
[14:51] <hosoka> phillw: thanks, I will look into that.
[14:53] <hosoka> phillw: I have done that. It did not work.
[14:53] <hosoka> if i use ubuntu only it does work well
[14:53] <hosoka> perhaps because Ubuntu works differently
[14:54] <hosoka> i also contacted with the writer of that tool named dgod and he mentioned that it might work diffently for lubuntu
[14:54] <hosoka> i have upgraded lubuntu 11.04 to 11.10 and since then with the lxdm autologin refusing I needed to replace it with GDM
[17:07] <]Spectre[> hi guys
[17:08] <]Spectre[> what's up ?
[17:08] <bioterror> for random chatting we have #lubuntu-offtopic which doesnt get logged
[17:09] <]Spectre[> sorry bioterror
[17:09] <]Spectre[> mamma mia
[17:10] <bioterror> dont be ;)
[20:57] <MangoBoy> HiI'm wondering if Mondo is compatible with lubuntu 11.10 and if you know any good guide
[20:58] <MangoBoy> some one told me there had been some problems with ubuntu at some time
[20:58] <MangoBoy>  http://www.mondorescue.org/
[21:02] <Unit193> MangoBoy: Well, normally the rule is if it works with Ubuntu, it should work with Lubuntu (But some things like alacarte need Xfce or Gnome)


[21:46] <Muppen> Hey guys, lets say I install a library from source, and have it in my library path. how can i make sure tht programs can use it? ldconfig?