[12:00] <DaMi3n> funkyHat, : the pathed libtag doesnt help
[12:00] <CookedGryphon> DaMi3n, have u looked for the right codecs? i use beep-media-player, its much better
[12:00] <DaMi3n> CookedGryphon, : yes i d/led all the codecs
[12:01] <funkyHat> DaMi3n, amaroK will still use the old libtag1 unless you specify a compile time option (which i can't remember)
[12:01] <DaMi3n> oh
[12:01] <funkyHat> it's something like path=/usr/lib
[12:02] <funkyHat> i'll look in the relevant logs and find it for you
[12:02] <DaMi3n> um ok i'll try
[12:02] <othernoob> funkyHat: but does it really matter if he can play wmas which are on his linux partitions?
[12:02] <DaMi3n> that'll be a lot of help ... ty
[12:02] <funkyHat> yeah you're most likely right othernoob. but i guess it's worth a try? maybe
[12:02] <mugwump> hi all, sorry to just bust in with a question, but ...
[12:03] <mugwump> for some reason, mozilla-firefox in ubuntu won't let me open a url by pasting it into the window.
[12:03] <SPERMITE> sorry
[12:03] <othernoob> funkyHat: what i'd rather take a look at is the way he mounted the ntfs..maybe his normal user account has no rights
[12:03] <DaMi3n> try running firefo in safe mode
[12:03] <mugwump> that is just so strange, I don't even know where to start looking to configure it
[12:03] <mugwump> safe mode ... ?
[12:03] <DaMi3n> mugwump, : try running firefo in safe mode
[12:03] <DaMi3n> yea
[12:04] <funkyHat> mugwump, try running the command firefox in a terminal window, and see what errors you get when you try to paste in a url
[12:04] <DaMi3n> othernoob, : well i ahve only one user apart from su/root
[12:04] <DaMi3n> plus the umode is 0222 which i think is enough
[12:04] <mugwump> ok.  I'm not sure what you mean by safe mode.  firefox just starts another firefox instance
[12:04] <[Spooky] > getting tired of this...
[12:05] <DaMi3n> ok do what funkyHat  says
[12:05] <[Spooky] > i have installed the sshd and have it started, yet none can connect why ?
[12:05] <mugwump> I can't see an option for safe mode on `mozilla-firefox --help'
[12:05] <othernoob> DaMi3n: indeed..mmh
[12:05] <funkyHat> DaMi3n, it's ./configure --prefix=/usr
[12:05] <test34> can you choose how will ubuntu bootup during installation ? I don't want to overwrite the mbr
[12:05] <Fraeon> Drat. I guess nobody knows the solution to my problem on the boards.
[12:05] <DaMi3n> funkyHat, : k
[12:05] <Ex-Cyber> mugwump: it's disabled by default in ubuntu, go to about:config and turn on middlemouse.contentLoadURL
[12:05] <Fraeon> I guess I can just bang my head on the wall.
[12:05] <funkyHat> DaMi3n, but as othernoob says that probably won't make a difference
[12:05] <funkyHat> DaMi3n, i just think it's worth a try ;)
[12:06] <DaMi3n> same
[12:06] <CookedGryphon> how do i configure my kernel to enable ALSA and ICH based modem support?
[12:06] <mugwump> Ex-Cyber++  # thanks, that did it
[12:06] <reiki> trying to follow ubotu's directions... :)  How do I Create a new profile in gnome-audio-profiles-properties.?
[12:06] <erUSUL> CookedGryphon, you need the sources
[12:06] <Ex-Cyber> mugwump: I think they just disabled it because it's too easy to paste gibberish by accident and up pops an annoying error box
[12:06] <Ex-Cyber> err
[12:06] <test34> can you install ubuntu with the live CD ?
[12:06] <Ex-Cyber> actually it seems to auto-search now
[12:07] <DaMi3n> funkyHat, : do i need to recompile amarok too ??
[12:07] <erUSUL> CookedGryphon, and buil-essentials
[12:07] <Ex-Cyber> maybe that's just another pref hiding somewhere
[12:07] <funkyHat> DaMi3n, no
[12:07] <[Spooky] > i have installed the sshd and have it started, yet none can connect why ? i have no firewall and i have forwaded the 22 port to my intern ip....
[12:07] <mugwump> firefox really need to sort out their preferences page ... far too much that can only be configured in about:config
[12:07] <[Spooky] > anyone any idea ?
[12:08] <SpinX> [Spooky] : just *maybe*, your isp blocks port 22 ?
[12:08] <test34> [Spooky] , type: lsof -i and tell me if sshd uses ipv6
[12:08] <Ex-Cyber> mugwump: they purposely leave most stuff off of the prefs dialogue
[12:08] <Ex-Cyber> it's part of their UI philosophy
[12:09] <mugwump> what, fuck off the users?  :)
[12:09] <SpinX> my CDs were mailed on the 24th of last month. how long does the shipping process usually take?
[12:09] <test34> I have this problem at another computer..... it automatically starts for ipv6 while I don't even use ipv6
[12:09] <mugwump> or just the old timers who are used to how it used to work...
[12:09] <Ex-Cyber> mugwump: nah, I think the idea is that prefs should be reserved for a handful of important settings that people are likely to want to change, and about:config is for power-users, heh
[12:09] <sn0n> SpinX, i got mine about 3 weeks later
[12:09] <SpinX> sn0n, ah. thanks.
[12:10] <Ex-Cyber> that way you don't have the prefs dialogue sprouting 50 tabs and 100 sub-dialogues
[12:10] <DaMi3n> funkyHat, : well it doesnt work
[12:10] <DaMi3n> *sigh*
[12:10] <Ex-Cyber> put another way, the more settings you add to prefs, the more it just turns into about:config :P
[12:11] <flankk> I am trying to get sound working on an old ISA integrated chipset.  I have isapnptools and the output of 'pnpdump' is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2023 but I don't know where to go from here.
[12:11] <toran> how can I download things from usenet? without paying $$$?
[12:12] <funkyHat> DaMi3n, maybe it's the way you have the ntfs partition mounted, as othernoob said. that sounds more likely
[12:12] <DaMi3n> /dev/hdc5       /mnt/win        ntfs    ro,umask=0222,auto      0       0
[12:12] <test34> DaMi3n maybe the program need read/write access ?
[12:12] <DaMi3n> this is what i have put in fstab
[12:12] <test34> it is read only right now\
[12:13] <DaMi3n> test34, : thtat mayb the case
[12:13] <DaMi3n> but it can play mp3s
[12:13] <funkyHat> DaMi3n, i have a shared vfat partition for my music anyway, not ntfs
[12:13] <test34> DaMi3n, try to mount it R/W
[12:13] <spider> hello
[12:13] <test34> damien , if you have support from the kernel
[12:13] <funkyHat> DaMi3n, maybe you should try enabling excecute... *just a thought*
[12:13] <funkyHat> test34, it's ntfs....
[12:14] <DaMi3n> funkyHat, test34, : wont that have a risk of corrupting the data on ntfs
[12:14] <funkyHat> enabling x won't, w might though
[12:14] <sean_> hey funky hat, could i have priva chat with you, i gotta ask you a few questions cause i am new to thsi ubuntu thing, and you seem to know what your doing
[12:14] <test34> DaMi3n, create a symlink on the linux partition to the ntfs file ?
[12:14] <DaMi3n> um ok
[12:15] <funkyHat> test34, that's a good idea
[12:15] <[Spooky] > test34: dont see sshd there
[12:15] <test34> worth a try.. if you really don't want to copy the file on linux partition
[12:16] <test34> spooky, are you sure it's running ? ps aux | grep sshd
[12:16] <funkyHat> DaMi3n, try what test34 just said, if that doesn't work, and you have the free space, you could create a new fat32 partition for your media, that's how i have mine set up and it works fine
[12:16] <flankk> I am trying to get sound working on an old ISA integrated chipset.  I have isapnptools and the output of 'pnpdump' is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2023 but I don't know where to go from here.
[12:16] <DaMi3n> thats the last resolve :)
[12:16] <funkyHat> and means windows and linux can both safely write to your media files
[12:17] <funkyHat> sean_, sure
[12:17] <[Spooky] > test34: yepp
[12:18] <DaMi3n> funkyHat, : i dont want windows but the thing is i dont have enough place for temp storage of data
[12:18] <test34> DaMi3n burn them
[12:18] <DaMi3n> again .. as i said those are last resolves
[12:18] <test34> oops read only
[12:19] <sean_> hey funkyhat, please accept my invite
[12:19] <DaMi3n> errr how do i symlink??
[12:19] <Fraeon> I'm doing a mistake by downloading the preview of Breezy(after the Colony 4 woes) but I'm doing it anyway
[12:19] <test34> ln -s file.avi symlink.avi
[12:19] <funkyHat> sean_, doesn't seem to be working... just /msg me?
[12:19] <sean_> ya sure
 aiight thanks man
 well my first question is i downloaded this win32codects thing, but not trhough apt-get install, i dl it off this site, but it was compressed, cuase of a lot of files where in  it, and my understanding on how to install those is to run the configureation file after you extracted it
 yet this didnt have one
 i downloaded it from here, http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/movix/win32codecs.tar.bz2?use_mirror=internap
[12:21] <test34> anywhere I can see the differences between slackware and ubuntu ?
[12:22] <NoUse> test34 distrowatch.com but I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for
[12:23] <test34> NoUse, like in slackware /etc/rc.d -> ubuntu /etc/init.d, apt-get, etc..
[12:23] <DaMi3n> ok symlinkin doesnt work too
[12:23] <nlogax> !openoffice2
[12:23] <ubotu> nlogax: Are you on ritalin?
[12:23] <NoUse> test34 yeah I don't know that anyone has compiled that kind of information
[12:23] <nlogax> !ooo2
[12:23] <ubotu> No idea, nlogax
[12:23] <DaMi3n> is it then possible to convert ntfs to ext3 w/o the format
[12:24] <reiki> I have Sound Juicer ripping a CD to mp3... woo-hoo!... now where is it putting the files? :)
[12:24] <DaMi3n> test34, : is it then possible to convert ntfs to ext3 w/o the format
[12:24] <nlogax> Anyone got a clue as to how to install latest OOo2 beta?  Apparently there are .debs around
[12:24] <DaMi3n> cos symlinking doesnt wok
[12:24] <DaMi3n> work*
[12:24] <jay> DaMi3n: nope, you can't
[12:25] <Gnonthgol> DaMi3n: why not convert it to fat32?
[12:25] <DaMi3n> ntfs to fat?? how
[12:25] <jay> i think just fat -> ntfs is possible iirc
[12:25] <_SWAT_> DaMi3n, partion magic (windows)
[12:25] <mdz> nlogax: it's in breezy
[12:25] <Gnonthgol> DaMi3n: using PM or windows
[12:26] <DaMi3n> dont have windows only a ntfs data partition :)
[12:26] <_SWAT_> DaMi3n, why???
[12:26] <DaMi3n> cos i deleted windows
[12:26] <DaMi3n> i like linux betr
[12:26] <_SWAT_> good :)
[12:26] <nlogax> mdz Thanks but I can't get Breezy to even install! :-/
[12:26] <test34> DaMi3n, convert from ntfs to fat32 -> http://aumha.org/win5/a/ntfscvt.php
[12:27] <mdz> nlogax: see /topic
[12:27] <nlogax> Also this PC is for someone else who I don't want to foist Breezy on until it releases (I'm their Tech Support, you see)
[12:27] <WiseElben> Hi, it seems like the md5sums never match for my downloads
[12:27] <test34> oh, you deleted windows..
[12:27] <DaMi3n> yea
[12:27] <DaMi3n> :)
[12:27] <oleavr> hi. anyone found a way around the infamous "(EE) fglrx(0): R200DRIScreenInit failed (DRI version = 5.0.0, expected 4.1.x). Disabling DRI." with breezy's latest xorg (release 60) and ati fglrx drivers 8.16.20? :)
[12:27] <reiki> DaMi3n, I put stuff on CD and pulled my XP drive out. I have only linux now. No ntfs, no windows junk cluttering things up
[12:27] <mdz> nlogax: if it's a production environment, why install a beta release of openoffice?  might as well wait a month and install ubuntu 5.10
[12:27] <jay> test34: that's for fat to ntfs ...
[12:27] <test34> well ntfs partition is useless then.. you have to backup and the format it I guess
[12:28] <jay> test34: it's a one way process
[12:29] <test34> jay, oh, yeah you're right
[12:30] <Madeye> hey! is it safe to use preview release?
[12:30] <chrisbudden14> I think my logon screens resolution is wrong
[12:30] <reiki> can anyone tell me where Sound Juicer is putting files by default when I ripp a CD to mp3?
[12:30] <chrisbudden14> how can i change it
[12:31] <erUSUL> reiki, in a folder mp3 in  $HOME
[12:31] <Gnonthgol> anyone know how to use slogin instead of login?
[12:32] <reiki> erUSUL: ok... wow... there it is. I wasn't sure about opening more apps while ripping CDs
[12:32] <reiki> erUSUL, thanks
[12:32] <test34> there is security advisories almost everyday for ubuntu
[12:32] <reiki> test34: there's security advisories almost every day for LOTS of stuff.
[12:33] <reiki> I feel a whole lot safer in Ubuntu than I have for a very long time in windows
[12:33] <_SWAT_> reiki, really?
[12:33] <test34> reiki, I feel pretty safe in my windows xp
[12:33] <_SWAT_> I mean the firewall (firestarter GUI) is VERY basic
[12:33] <erUSUL> reiki, yaw
[12:34] <reiki> test34: XP has more holes in it than my kitchen collandar
[12:34] <NoUse> test34 if Windows source code was public, there would be advisories every 15-20 minutes
[12:34] <_SWAT_> I also feel safe in my windows xp, with zone alarm, anti-virus, anti-spyware, tweaked services (against standard hacks) and MS firewall turned off.
[12:34] <_SWAT_> :P
[12:35] <chavo> I have XP with only MS firewall, no spyware and no viruses
[12:35] <Gnonthgol> anyone reale tested the Ubuntu standard install in the real world?
[12:35] <test34> chavo, same here
[12:35] <chavo> waht are you people doing to get this crap
[12:35] <_SWAT_> chavo, then you're really lucky or you didn't notice the virii/spyware yet ;-)
[12:35] <NoUse> Gnonthgol define "tested" and "real"
[12:35] <Gnonthgol> chavo: http://serials.ws/ now you have. LOL
[12:36] <reiki> _SWAT_: oh I ain't saying you can't make it feel safe... just that it really isn't... no matter how safe you feel. I've been involved with windows and microsoft since way back when win95 was still "Chicago with Win32C!" ... I'm old
[12:36] <_SWAT_> :-|
[12:36] <_SWAT_> reiki, do you have any security experience?
[12:36] <reiki> _SWAT_: some... :)
[12:36] <_SWAT_> I think of opening a thread (after searching the ubuntuforums) about real security
[12:36] <_SWAT_> I'm kinda paranoid :)
[12:36] <_SWAT_> and somehow I like it
[12:37] <Gnonthgol> NoUse: anyone just put an Ubuntu install on the internet without firewall or anything and see wats hapening?
[12:37] <NoUse> Gnonthgol ubuntu doesn't open any ports by default
[12:37] <test34> reiki I started to use mMS products way before 95..
[12:37] <robotgeek> Gnonthgol: i use ubuntu without a firewall
[12:37] <_SWAT_> Gnonthgol, ubuntu has a firewall activated by default (as far as I remember)
[12:37] <devrethman> anybody know why the partitioner would always crash at 41% while installing
[12:37] <devrethman> ?
[12:37] <test34> _SWAT_, no it doesnt
[12:38] <_SWAT_> ow, my bad then
[12:38] <reiki> test34: oh I was USING them before 95... just wasn't contacted by microsoft and officially involved until around 94
[12:38] <_SWAT_> I ran it lots of times without a firewall... NO PROBLEM! :D
[12:38] <NoUse> _SWAT_ but there aren't any ports bound to services by default
[12:38] <_SWAT_> devrethman, no
[12:38] <devrethman> blast
[12:38] <Gnonthgol> They tested the redhat system and it was haced in 21 days
[12:38] <test34> reiki, ahh ok
[12:38] <devrethman> it's been doing this for like 2 weeks
[12:38] <NoUse> Gnonthgol Windows would be 21 seonds
[12:38] <devrethman> and nobody has any idcea what to do with it
[12:38] <test34> reiki, I started with dos prolly version 3
[12:39] <_SWAT_> Windows XP has virii/spyware within 20 minutes or something (if it's connected to the internet)
[12:39] <_SWAT_> :)
[12:39] <reiki> Gnonthgol, that's why we have routers and firewalls... no need to taunt folks into hacking you easily.
[12:39] <_SWAT_> heehheeheh :)
[12:39] <kevogod> _SWAT_, Right....
[12:39] <erUSUL> devrethman, faulty hardware?
[12:39] <BSG75> how do I add other window manager to gdm pls?
[12:39] <test34> _SWAT_, Ive seen a video with a dialup access, it took 8 seconds for them
[12:39] <_SWAT_> test34, ROFL!
[12:39] <Deathy> _SWAT_, 12 minutes was the official test :)
[12:39] <reiki> test34: I think I actually have 5.25 floppies in my basement storage for DOS versions before 3.1
[12:40] <_SWAT_> Deathy, thnx for the exact info :)
[12:40] <Deathy> although I seen some in 5 minutes if you're in a lan/man with other infected comps
[12:41] <_SWAT_> I was at a LAN party once..... One guy had > 500.000 infected files.... We all spontaniously pulled our UTP out of the switch and started scanning our comps
[12:41] <_SWAT_> btw, it was Windows XP
[12:41] <test34> reiki, did you started to use the internet with windows 3.1 ?
[12:41] <GNU-GPL> .
[12:41] <kevogod> Good thing Windows XP SP2 eliminates all threat of virii and trojans.
[12:41] <Gnonthgol> I have tested windows and I can get a virus in like 2 sec with any anti-virus installed and with Microsoft securety expert looking unaware.
[12:41] <devrethman> erUSL doubtful
[12:41] <Bubblefly> Hello, my lovies.
[12:41] <devrethman> it worked fine before i put the ubuntu CD in
[12:41] <funkyHat> is there a gtk2 version of gpgp
[12:41] <funkyHat> ?
[12:41] <_SWAT_> kevogod, sorry to tell you this, but dream on
[12:42] <Gnonthgol> kevogod: sp2 does not remove nothing
[12:42] <cevizoglu> Gnonthgol: well, **I** can get a virus in 122 milliseconds
[12:42] <funkyHat> guys, i think he was joking ;)
[12:42] <_SWAT_> funkyHat, you just need a front-end
[12:42] <_SWAT_> :)
[12:42] <test34> reiki, I only used BBS with dos.. hehe
[12:42] <kevogod> You people are funny.
[12:42] <holy_cow> lol
[12:42] <reiki> test34: honestly don't remember exactly. I was using archie and veronica and ... heck I was writing web pages before there were pictures on the web... just text
[12:42] <BSG75> anyone know how I can add xfce to the gdm session list?
[12:42] <Deathy> antivirus can't do much if it's a windows service that gets infected running with admin priviledges
[12:42] <funkyHat> _SWAT_, gpgp is a front end ;)
[12:42] <Deathy> since it's really a 'feature' of windows that lets it get infected
[12:42] <_SWAT_> funkyHat, then use another ;-)
[12:42] <funkyHat> _SWAT_, but it's gtk not gtk2 :(
[12:42] <Gnonthgol> cevizoglu: probably
[12:43] <Bubblefly> If I were to dist-upgrade in the near future, would I get the equivalent of the preview release? ^^
[12:43] <CookedGryphon> ARGH! my winmodem is really annoying me now
[12:43] <spider> hey guys, newb question here... what's wrong with this command : /mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sata1 ntfs auto ?
[12:43] <GNU-GPL> Bubblefly, yes
[12:43] <reiki> test34: I've forgotten a lot of stuff... I was in a bad car accident in 2001 and was killed. There are somethings I just don't remember. Like holes in my memories
[12:43] <Bubblefly> Ginchy. Thank you.
[12:44] <Deathy> I did a dist upgrade to breezy ..not many bugs or anything like that :)
[12:44] <holy_cow> reiki, thats deep
[12:44] <GNU-GPL> indeed.. works allmost stable
[12:44] <test34> reiki yeah there is alot of holes in my memory too;)
[12:44] <erUSUL> spider, it looks like a fstab line
[12:44] <BSG75> yeah 2.1.2 now has a menu editor :)
[12:44] <spider> hmm
[12:44] <GNU-GPL> finally
[12:45] <spider> actually, the proper command that is wrong is /mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sata1 ntfs auto
[12:45] <reiki> test34: ok well some of the holes can be attributed to me turning 53 in about 2 weeks... but that's my story and I'm sticking to it :)
[12:45] <spider> actually, the proper command that is wrong is mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sata1 ntfs auto
[12:45] <Bubblefly> Which I can do by just... replacing all the 'hoary' references with 'breezy' in my sources.lst? :3
[12:45] <BSG75> anyone know how I can add XFCE to my gdm session list?
[12:45] <spider> I'm basicly trying to mount an SATA drive that is NTFS
[12:45] <CookedGryphon> does anyone know how i can configure my modem with ICE and ALSA modem support?
[12:45] <cevizoglu> Deathy: you did?  wow, I tried that last time there was a release and hosed my distro
[12:46] <spider> I found the syntax for mount on a website
[12:46] <spider> and all it does is giving me the help prompt
[12:46] <NoUse> spider you need to preface fs types with -t I believe
[12:46] <erUSUL> spider, mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sata1
[12:46] <test34> reiki, I'm 25, maybe I was too young to remember hehe
[12:46] <spider> ok, I'll try that, thanks
[12:46] <Deathy> cevizoglu, just modified the sources from warty to breezy and did the upgrade, had no problems, only some minor reconfiguring programs
[12:46] <cevizoglu> spider: here is an example. but not completely what you want: mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sata1
[12:46] <reiki> :)
[12:47] <cevizoglu> oops, too slow
[12:47] <spider> ok, I'll try to find out with that
[12:47] <ilba7r> !esd
[12:47] <ubotu> rumour has it, esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.
[12:48] <SuperTails92> BSG75: IIRC, the universe packages do that automatically in Hoary.
[12:48] <ilba7r> !esd howto
[12:48] <ubotu> ilba7r: What?
[12:48] <DaMi3n> funkyHat, : plus u know how to get audio workin on 915 chipsets
[12:48] <cevizoglu> !rtfm
[12:48] <ubotu> rtfm is, like, Read The "Fine" Manual
[12:48] <BSG75> esd is the reason I am looking into other WMs .. I can live the quarks of gnome .. but arts and esd drives me craaazy
[12:49] <SuperTails92> !arts
[12:49] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, SuperTails92
[12:49] <GNU-GPL> !ubotu
[12:49] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:49] <GNU-GPL> :P
[12:49] <GNU-GPL> !gpl
[12:49] <ubotu> GNU-GPL: I give up, what is it?
[12:49] <GNU-GPL> !gnu
[12:49] <kevogod> !bsd
[12:49] <ubotu> GNU-GPL: Are you smoking crack?
[12:49] <ubotu> kevogod: Are you smoking crack?
[12:49] <_lui_> hello
[12:49] <MikeStyle>  Hi, i just installed the Apache and Apache 2 Web servers on my computer but cannot find them in any of my menus, little help plz?
[12:49] <cevizoglu> lol
[12:49] <DaMi3n> anyone knows how to get audio workin on 915 chipsets
[12:49] <funkyHat> DaMi3n, maybe i i knew what a 915 chipset was ;)
[12:49] <GNU-GPL> hmm.. not much inside the bot
[12:49] <Gnonthgol> !your name
[12:49] <GNU-GPL> :S
[12:49] <ubotu> Gnonthgol: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[12:49] <BSG75> SuperTails92: universe package? .. pls elaborate
[12:50] <Gnonthgol> !google
[12:50] <ubotu> rumour has it, google is at http://www.google.com/linux
[12:50] <funkyHat> DaMi3n, did you get the other issue sorted?
[12:50] <SuperTails92> bsg75: Did you install XFCE from apt?
[12:50] <DaMi3n> funkyHat, : yea format the hdd  adn the copy the data baq
[12:50] <BSG75> SuperTails92: yes
[12:50] <DaMi3n> thats what i conclude :)
[12:50] <funkyHat> :) nice one
[12:50] <Quinthius> MikeStyle: apache doesn't put anything in the menus
[12:51] <CookedGryphon> sob.
[12:51] <DaMi3n> funkyHat, : btw i meant the intel 915 chipset based mother boards
[12:51] <ilba7r> anyone familiar with esd troubles
[12:51] <GNU-GPL> !linux
[12:51] <ubotu> hmm... linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[12:51] <cevizoglu> breezy doesn't support my wireless card, so I'm in no hurry to upgrade
[12:51] <MikeStyle> Then how do i work it
[12:51] <CookedGryphon> esd doesn't seem to play multiple sounds for me either
[12:51] <Lunar_Lamp> ok - i want to set up sound now, on an *old* laptop.  when i go to volume control: "no volume control elements and/or devices found".  when i type 'alsamixer' into a terminal: 'alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such file or directory".  how do i go about fixing it.  my sound card specs are as this link shows: http://support.jp.dell.com/docs/systems/pmojav/specs.htm#Audio
[12:51] <SuperTails92> !botabuse
[12:51] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[12:51] <funkyHat> DaMi3n, ah right :)
[12:51] <Quinthius> MikeStyle: edit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, restart with "sudo apache2ctl restart" (can also pass "stop" and "start")
[12:51] <ilba7r> for me it just capture the sound device exclusivley so after a while i just loose anysound
[12:51] <spider> ok, got mount to work... the "auto" and "ro" option weren't liked :)
[12:51] <MikeStyle> ...i cant set specific parameters?
[12:52] <Quinthius> MikeStyle: like?
[12:52] <MikeStyle> like i only want to make a small 15 gig server off my hdd
[12:52] <erUSUL> spider, man mount
[12:52] <DaMi3n> anyone knows how to get audio workin on an intel 915 chipset based motherboard??
[12:52] <Quinthius> MikeStyle: what's that have to do with apache config?
[12:52] <_lui_> question: anyone can tell an "amazing thing" to do with linux? I mean, a thing I could surprise any friend to say: "whoa!, I thought that only happen in movies!", you know?
[12:52] <MikeStyle> no idea, i just wanted to make apache like that and start it
[12:53] <GNU-GPL> DaMi3n, what the sound chip?
[12:53] <DaMi3n> yes
[12:54] <GNU-GPL> DaMi3n, i ment: what's the sound chip on the board?
[12:54] <Quinthius> MikeStyle: not sure what you mean, but you can partition off a 15 gig portion of your hard drive, mount it somewhere, then make that directory accessible to apache
[12:54] <ilba7r> is there an alternative to esd so i can remove it? seem to me everything depend on it
[12:54] <MikeStyle> ok
[12:54] <MikeStyle> thanks
[12:54] <CookedGryphon> _lui_, there's a nice feature where u can set it to take a typing break every 60 mins by locking the screen for 3 mins
[12:54] <DaMi3n> HDA audio
[12:55] <GNU-GPL> never heard of
[12:55] <DaMi3n> GNU-GPL,: HDA audio i guess
[12:55] <DaMi3n> errr..high definition audio
[12:55] <Quinthius> ilba7r: well, you can disable it and use direct alsa instead
[12:55] <_lui_> CookedGryphon, how's that?
[12:55] <DaMi3n> anyone knows how to get audio workin on an intel 915 chipset based motherboard??
[12:55] <ilba7r> quinthius how can i do that?
[12:55] <neighborlee>  why am I getting permission denied on something like this: sudo export X11_Xext_LIB=/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so ?? ;-)
[12:56] <xulin> nanuit
[12:56] <CookedGryphon> _lui_, its not really that impressive tho
[12:56] <Lunar_Lamp> ok - i want to set up sound now, on an *old* laptop.  when i go to volume control: "no volume control elements and/or devices found".  when i type 'alsamixer' into a terminal: 'alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such file or directory".  how do i go about fixing it?  my sound card specs are as this link shows: http://support.jp.dell.com/docs/systems/pmojav/specs.htm#Audio
[12:56] <Quinthius> ilba7r: system -> preferences -> sound, uncheck "enable sound server", then do system -> prefs -> multimedia selector, and set output sink to ALSA (and hit test to make sure it works)
[12:56] <CookedGryphon> _lui_, nicest feature is probs the multiple workspaces really, i have all my msn set up and my media player showing on one screen then other stuff on different workspaces
[12:56] <ilba7r> quinthius thanks will try that
[12:57] <Quinthius> ilba7r: and in all your apps, make sure they either use "system/default" ouput, or alsa
[12:57] <test34> _lui_, compile the kernel ?
[12:57] <darkheart> neighborlee It's kind of pointless to do something like that, I think. The variable is only in effect for the current shell login..so there's no point in sudoing it.
[12:57] <neighborlee> darkheart, not pointless when you need it to compile something
[12:57] <ashay> hey guys
[12:57] <neighborlee> darkheart, regardless though I should not be seeing such a error
[12:58] <darkheart> neighborlee I think you are misunderstanding me, the sudo part is not correct.
[12:58] <ashay> I have a question..is there any way I can change the font color for my gnome-panel
[12:58] <darkheart> neighborlee What happens when you leave out the sudo?
[12:58] <ashay> my panel is transperent now
[12:58] <erUSUL> DaMi3n, ypu are out of luck alsa does not support i915
[12:58] <darkheart> neighborlee And usually those kind of environment variables are set to the path, not the actual file.
[12:58] <_lui_> CookedGryphon, I'm thinking in a thing like, I don't know..., for me was very impressive the pastebin feature to paste something to a webpage directly from the terminal, so I'm thinking in something that amazing
[12:59] <neighborlee> darkheart, su'ing doesn't work either
[12:59] <darkheart> neighborlee Don't su, sudo, root anything for now.
[12:59] <DaMi3n> erUSUL, : so basically no linux for 915 guys yet??
[12:59] <neighborlee> darkheart, yeah I know..wasn't sure how else to remedy
[12:59] <neighborlee> darkheart, im getting symbol errors that I can't resolve so I thought this would work
[01:00] <neighborlee> darkheart, also it was recommened to me by associate ;-)\
[01:00] <Quinthius> neighborlee: are you getting this? sudo: export: command not found
[01:00] <_lui_> test34, I'm asking for a feature in linux to surprise any friend with the capabilities of the system, something "movie like".
[01:00] <khermans> any grading apps out there?
[01:00] <CookedGryphon> _lui_, scripting in general
[01:00] <CookedGryphon> u can do most anything
[01:00] <khermans> to keep track of my grades in school?
[01:00] <neighborlee> Quinthius, nope..just permission denied
[01:00] <darkheart> neighborlee If you can show me some errors, it would be easier.
[01:00] <test34> _lui_, like a hacker movie ? or special effects or what ?
[01:00] <cevizoglu> khermans: /dev/null
[01:01] <ilba7r> quinthius thanks again works like a charm so far
[01:01] <neighborlee> darkheart, np
[01:01] <Quinthius> ilba7r: great :)
[01:01] <khermans> cevizoglu, ya...
[01:01] <neighborlee> Quinthius, wait yes I am actaullly sorry
[01:01] <cevizoglu> khermans: keeping what kind of track?  like a spreadsheet?
[01:01] <ashay> khermans: http://www.hotscripts.com/Detailed/37980.html its a PHP script
[01:01] <neighborlee> darkheart, sudo: export: command not found
[01:01] <neighborlee> bash: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXxf86vm.so: Permission denied
[01:01] <_lui_> CookedGryphon, I was reading something about scripts some minutes ago and found some interesting things
[01:02] <Jonf> Could anyone tell me how I can create a folder in the SHARE folder??
[01:02] <darkheart> neighborlee So you're saying it won't work if you just leave out the sudo part?
[01:02] <Quinthius> neighborlee: export is a builtin shell command, which apparently sudo doesn't have any knowledge of
[01:02] <bur[n] er> Jonf: right click, share
[01:02] <khermans> cevizoglu, i just want to track all my courses and grades on homework, tests, exams, etc
[01:02] <_lui_> test34, something like a hacker could do, something like that
[01:02] <darkheart> neighborlee It doesn't make sense to sudo something like that.
[01:02] <Quinthius> neighborlee: and even if export did work, using sudo for it would be rather pointless... as darkheart is saying...
[01:02] <neighborlee> Quinthius, ah
[01:02] <ashay> i guess the script i pointed to does it
[01:03] <test34> _lui_, like a simulation I hope ?
[01:03] <ashay> but u need tohave apache running
[01:03] <khermans> ashay, thanks, i do :-0
[01:03] <ashay> np
[01:03] <neighborlee> darkheart, well I had to try something as I kept getting permission denied
[01:03] <khermans> ashay, i see ggradebook in apt -- but there i no build for amd64
[01:03] <kaptaink> i mounted a ext3 partition with "mount -t ext3 dev/mydrive path/to/mountpoint but inside some folders i have important files missing
[01:03] <kaptaink> any help?
[01:03] <Quinthius> neighborlee: the permission denied error looks like the shell is trying to EXECUTE that file, which isn't an executable file, so it says permission denied
[01:03] <kaptaink> i have show hidden files clicked
[01:03] <darkheart> neighborlee Yeah, I understand, but have you tried just 'export X11_Xext_LIB=/usr/X11R6/lib' ?
[01:04] <ashay> well i guess it does not matter for a php script
[01:04] <neighborlee> darkheart, first thing I tried..thats when I got the permission denied error
[01:04] <ashay> brb
[01:04] <NoUse> kaptaink what happens when you do an 'ls' from a shell on tha folder
[01:04] <neighborlee> darkheart, oh wait
[01:04] <Quinthius> neighborlee: are you getting permission denied when yo uset the export? or during the compile?
[01:04] <kaptaink> good idea, let me just try
[01:04] <neighborlee> darkheart, ok nm it seems shell didn't like me trying to do both libs at same time
[01:05] <erUSUL> neighborlee, export $X11_Xext_LIB=/usr/X11R6/lib'
[01:05] <_lui_> test34, just something I can say to a friend: "look what you can do with linux"
[01:05] <darkheart> neighborlee Just curious, what are you compiling?
[01:05] <neighborlee> ah crap no wonder
[01:05] <neighborlee> darkheart, sorry my associate pasted me the line to use but with ; instead of ;
[01:05] <neighborlee> darkheart, grfrr it works fine now
[01:06] <_lui_> test34, but like an unbelievable thing
[01:06] <PiercedH20> Is it possible to network Ubunyu with Windows?
[01:06] <test34> _lui_, something unbelievable to somebody might be common for somebody else
[01:06] <NoUse> PiercedH20 you want Samba
[01:06] <darkheart> neighborlee I didn't get that =P but I'm glad that you got it working.
[01:06] <NoUse> !samba
[01:06] <ubotu> rumour has it, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[01:06] <Gnonthgol> anyone know how to set up an terminal without gui?
[01:07] <kaptaink> NoUse - it says permission denied but i can actually get into the folder through the graphical interface
[01:07] <darkheart> Gnonthgol Set up a terminal?
[01:07] <Quinthius> neighborlee: you mean ; instead of : ?
[01:07] <_lui_> test34, something unbelievable to a normal windows user
[01:07] <neighborlee> yes I had to use : instead of ;
[01:07] <Jonf> Could anyone tell me how I can create a folder in the SHARE folder??
[01:07] <neighborlee> Quinthius,  yes I had to use : instead of ;
[01:07] <Gnonthgol> darkheart: yes
[01:07] <neighborlee> darkheart, I still could use some help though..lemme use pastebin
[01:07] <darkheart> Gnonthgol Sorry, I mean 'what do you mean'? =)
[01:07] <Quinthius> neighborlee: well that explains the permission denied part :P
[01:07] <neighborlee> yes indeed LOL
[01:08] <NoUse> kaptaink who owns the folder?
[01:09] <poningru> CookedGryphon: whats wrong dude?
[01:09] <kaptaink> myself, its says permission denied
[01:09] <neighborlee> darkheart, http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/?6198
[01:09] <poningru> err make and model of your modem please?
[01:09] <Jonf> Could anyone tell me how I can create a folder in the SHARE folder?? It says I dont have permissions
[01:09] <kaptaink> can i change the whole partitions permissions and all the folders under it?
[01:09] <seif> hi all
[01:09] <seif> how is the preview release
[01:09] <seif> :)
[01:09] <Gnonthgol> darkheart: I have an old laptop without gui and a remote server altso without gui but with ssh, how to set up inittab to use slogin instead of ligin?
[01:09] <NoUse> kaptaink yeah if you own it make sure you have read permissions
[01:09] <poningru> kaptaink: just mount it somewhere you have permission
[01:09] <poningru> like under your home dir
[01:10] <CookedGryphon> poningru, i have a winmodem in my laptop, and i have downloaded the slmodem drivers, and it worked like twice, then stopped working and i don't know y, in my logs it says there was no carrier, but beyond that i ahve nothying
[01:10] <kaptaink> ok, ill give it a try
[01:10] <kaptaink> thanx 4 ur help
[01:10] <poningru> eeh
[01:10] <darkheart> neighborlee What exactly are you compiling? Looks like you are missing some libs or something.
[01:10] <poningru> winmodem == bad for you
[01:10] <seif> guys
[01:10] <seif> is fglrx working under breezy preview
[01:10] <seif> :)
[01:11] <seif> ??????
[01:11] <leonel> http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-September/000031.html
[01:11] <NoUse> seif no need to flood
[01:11] <funkyHat> seif, give people a chance :P
[01:11] <neighborlee> darkheart, openscenegraph.org
[01:11] <funkyHat> maybe noone is around who knows right now
[01:11] <neighborlee> darkheart, what we're using for game development
[01:11] <darkheart> Gnonthgol So basically, you don't want the computer to boot into GUI?
[01:11] <seif> sorry
[01:11] <CookedGryphon> poningru, i know, but i can't be bothered getting a proper modem cos i'm off to uni in a lil bit and can't b bothered investing considering ho wmuch i'm gna use it
[01:11] <poningru> CookedGryphon: you sure you can connect using the thing udner windows?
[01:12] <CookedGryphon> poningru, i can connect under ubuntu, once
[01:12] <Gnonthgol> darkheart: I lack CPU for that
[01:12] <CookedGryphon> no twice sry
[01:12] <CookedGryphon> then it stopped working
[01:12] <poningru> CookedGryphon: right but it could be that it actually cant find the carrier
[01:12] <no0tic> I'm trying to backtrace a crash of rhythmbox, I compiled a debugging version of it, but when I try to run it into gdb it doesn't start
[01:12] <poningru> CookedGryphon: can you try to connect under windows, just to see if you can
[01:13] <CookedGryphon> i don't ahve windows
[01:13] <CookedGryphon> i'm 100% ubuntu
[01:13] <CookedGryphon> i'm on my main pc on ubuntu now
[01:13] <darkheart> Gnonthgol Okay, you mean you want the laptop to boot up and auto login to the server?
[01:13] <poningru> CookedGryphon: ic hmm
[01:13] <no0tic> anyone can help me?
[01:13] <Gnonthgol> darkheart: yes, you have got the idea
[01:14] <poningru> CookedGryphon: you sure the line carries a signal?
[01:14] <Quinthius> no0tic: hmm, i'm using the version of rhythmbox that comes with hoary, but sometimes when i go to run it the taskbar says "starting rhythmbox" for a few seconds, then closes... after a couple attempts it starts up
[01:14] <Quinthius> no0tic: so maybe try a few times in a row or something...
[01:14] <CookedGryphon> poningru, i'm using the same phone line and plug into this computer, with the same ISP and everytihing
[01:14] <poningru> connect a telephone to the thing and see if you have a dial tone
[01:14] <poningru> hmm ic
[01:15] <no0tic> Quinthius: I'm on breezy, I'm trying to backtrace a crash
[01:15] <Jonf> How I can install Azureus??
[01:15] <no0tic> Quinthius: I filed a bug and seb wants the backtrace, but bug-buddy dialog didn't open
[01:15] <VoX> jonf: get the source, compile it and install it
[01:15] <poningru> CookedGryphon: hold on let me try something on my comp
[01:15] <Gnonthgol> !azureus
[01:15] <ubotu> it has been said that azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository
[01:15] <robotgeek> !info azureus
[01:16] <Jonf> thank you
[01:16] <VoX> Gnonthgol: too bad if you're not using hoary :p
[01:16] <CookedGryphon> kk
[01:16] <Gnonthgol> !repository
[01:16] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Gnonthgol
[01:16] <robotgeek> !repos
[01:16] <ubotu> repos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:16] <Quinthius> no0tic: ahh, i dont know. thought you meant rhythmbox wasn't starting up... so was just suggesting to give it a few tries :)
[01:17] <no0tic> Quinthius: it starts up. normally, but when invoked inside gdb it doesn't
[01:17] <darkheart> Gnonthgol Sorry man, I know what you are trying to do, but I can't think of a way to do it, except disabling gdm and creating some kind of shell script to run slogin and include that in the startup.
[01:17] <bur[n] er> rhythmbox won't work for someone?
[01:17] <bur[n] er> oh
[01:18] <seif> hmmmm
[01:18] <bur[n] er> my rb crashes if I type anything in the "search" field
[01:18] <robotgeek> bur[n] er: i too have problems with rythmbox, maybe too slow a machine?
[01:18] <neighborlee> darkheart, any idea on my compile error ...
[01:18] <darkheart> neighborlee I'm not sure what the problem is =\ but it looks like maybe you need to install some development packages.
[01:18] <seif> i am planning to try the preview unless the fglrx doenst work :)
[01:18] <darkheart> neighborlee For XFree86
[01:18] <neighborlee> darkheart, agreed but I have zero clue what ones
[01:18] <bur[n] er> too "slow" shouldn't really matter
[01:18] <seif> ca nsome1 gelp me
[01:18] <_kurt> I have a question in the next... oh... hour.
[01:18] <_kurt> I will be back in 60 minutes with a question.
[01:18] <CookedGryphon> i use beep-media-player, much nicer
[01:19] <neighborlee> darkheart, how do I check what libs will contain a given symbol ?
[01:19] <bur[n] er> lol, thanks for the warning _kurt
[01:19] <Quinthius> seif: i don't see why fglrx wouldn't work... have there been reports that it's not
[01:19] <Gnonthgol> darkheart: I do not have gdm installed, and have ou taken a look at /etc/inittab
[01:19] <robotgeek> bur[n] er: i dunno, but it hangs and all. i too use bmp
[01:19] <bur[n] er> bmp is decent
[01:19] <robotgeek> very
[01:19] <bur[n] er> xmms is faster and has more plugins
[01:19] <_kurt> how's xmms2 coming along?
[01:19] <robotgeek> bur[n] er: bmp works better than xmms for me
[01:19] <bur[n] er> robotgeek: how?
[01:20] <mike_a> forget XMMS2, wait for BMPx :)
[01:20] <bur[n] er> forget all those... use mpd :)  with gmpc as the client
[01:20] <bur[n] er> ;)
[01:20] <CookedGryphon> i find its also got best sound quality out of the ones i've tried
[01:20] <CookedGryphon> and also wma support, all plus points
[01:20] <bur[n] er> wma support on beep?
[01:20] <jcd1006> i need some help with firefox, anyone willing to help?
[01:21] <robotgeek> !anyone
[01:21] <ubotu> I guess anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[01:21] <CookedGryphon> weird thing.. my modem applet tells me i'm not connected, but i quite obviously am..
[01:21] <bur[n] er> jcd1006: que pasa?
[01:21] <_kurt> bur[n] er: Heh. If I wasn't using gnome already, I'd use mpd. Seems kind of silly to run gnome and then be light on the mp3 playing.
[01:21] <CookedGryphon> i couldn't get xmms to download
[01:21] <CookedGryphon> i may try it another time
[01:22] <bur[n] er> mpd == light?  it's a friggen server/client solution... that's not light ;)
[01:22] <jcd1006> i tried updating it so that i could install extensions and they still won't work, on top of that plug ins do not install/work and i can not print, it brings up an error when i try
[01:22] <bur[n] er> if only there was a rhtyhmbox-like frontend for mpd
[01:22] <bur[n] er> jcd1006: how'd you "update" it?
[01:22] <CookedGryphon> bur[n] er, y do u wish u dint have wma files?
[01:23] <bur[n] er> wma is not a very "open" format
[01:23] <jcd1006> by doing the packagem manager
[01:23] <robotgeek> jcd1006: backup your bookmarks, and remove your profiles directory and try again
[01:23] <CookedGryphon> bur[n] er, tru, but hey, it works  and that's good enuf 4 me, i'm not putting any of my newer stuff into wma tho
[01:23] <bur[n] er> in fact... f it, I don't need these songs... time to rm -rf *wma
[01:24] <jcd1006> it won't let me add bookmarks eihter, so i don't have any
[01:24] <bur[n] er> not i :)
[01:24] <bur[n] er> give me mp3 or give me death
[01:24] <robotgeek> jcd1006: weird
[01:24] <bur[n] er> plus.. wma doesn't play on my car stereo where mp3 does ;)
[01:24] <mjr> *cough*ogg*cough*vorbis
[01:24] <CookedGryphon> hmm, mp3 quality's a bit naff tho
[01:24] <robotgeek> bur[n] er: dont u mean ogg? :)
[01:24] <seif> thx man
[01:24] <bur[n] er> nope
[01:24] <seif> i will try it on my notebook
[01:24] <CookedGryphon> ogg is better quality
[01:24] <jcd1006> robotgeek: how would i remove that directory, just go into the program manager and find that file and delete it then reupdate?
[01:24] <bur[n] er> give me an ogg car player or portable ogg player, and i'm all for it
[01:24] <DaMi3n> l0l
[01:24] <bur[n] er> if only the creative zen
[01:24] <mjr> plus mp3 is not a very "open" format
[01:24] <seif> i just remember tht the last time with colony 3 i couldnt c whats booting
[01:24] <seif> :)
[01:25] <bur[n] er> lame == open source...
[01:25] <bur[n] er> 'technically' royalties to frauenhofer should be paid but eh
[01:25] <bur[n] er> mp3 == more open than wma
[01:25] <robotgeek> jcd1006: try in a terminal "sudo apt-get install firefox-gnome-support"
[01:26] <spider> hmm, I'm trying to play mp3 using rhythmbox.. got a fresh ubuntu install, and when I try to scan the directory where my mp3 are, it gives errors : no pluging to handle a MP3 files... but the help files tells me it's able to read mp3... what can I do ?
[01:26] <robotgeek> jcd1006: or what was the name of the package u tried to install?
[01:26] <Quinthius> spider: you need to install some gstreamer plugins
[01:26] <bur[n] er> jcd1006: "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox-gnome-support" rather ;)
[01:26] <rob^> !mp3
[01:26] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[01:26] <darkheart> neighborlee Sorry, I'm at a loss. Perhaps it's the libmesa dev package, or one of the libxxfree86 packages.
[01:26] <neighborlee> darkheart, np ok ill check
[01:26] <robotgeek> neighborlee: what package are u trying to compile?
[01:26] <neighborlee> darkheart, thx for peeking
[01:27] <seif> any1 using a notebook
[01:27] <seif> :)
[01:27] <robotgeek> seif: yeah
[01:27] <jcd1006> when i tried doing what bur[n] er said it came back with "ozilla-firefox-gnome-support is already the newest version."
[01:27] <CookedGryphon> seif, i would b if my winmodem would work
[01:27] <mackid> hi I'm using gnoppix.. how can I save a home directory on my usb stick and load it at startup so i have all my settings and stuff?
[01:27] <neighborlee> robotgeek, openscenegraph.org : specifically the OpenSceneGraph DIR ( after having compiled cleanly OT and Prod
[01:27] <Seveas> but my laptop musr guaranteed work on software freedom day :S
[01:27] <spider> thanks for the link ubotu
[01:28] <jcd1006> robotgeek: it was the 1.06 install
[01:28] <robotgeek> neighborlee: you can get the dependencies by apt-get install build-dep <package>
[01:28] <neighborlee> robotgeek, yes I know
[01:28] <bur[n] er> X is a little fudged in terms of GL speed
[01:28] <seif> and how is it on a notebook
[01:28] <darkheart> Seveas Can you take a peek at http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/?6198 and suggest a package that might be missing? (I think that's what the problem is)
[01:28] <seif> is it ok?
[01:28] <robotgeek> neighborlee: i ran into another bug too
[01:28] <seif> robotgeek
[01:28] <bur[n] er> seif: wonderfully spectacular
[01:28] <funkyHat> what's s Seveas ?
[01:28] <neighborlee> robotgeek, hmm wait one sec.can I just PM you
[01:28] <darkheart> Gnonthgol I don't know if you can accomplish what you want with /etc/inittab
[01:28] <robotgeek> seif: it's good, but still a lot of stuff broken for me
[01:29] <robotgeek> neighborlee: go ahead
[01:29] <Seveas> funkyHat, secret
[01:29] <bur[n] er> seif: check the laptop part of the wiki for specific models
[01:29] <Seveas> it was a futile attempt of mine to keep spambots out
[01:29] <funkyHat> ah
[01:29] <robotgeek> jcd1006: try installing and reinstalling the package, with a purge too...brb
[01:30] <darkheart> Gnonthgol Well, actually, if you can make a script it seems it would work w/ inittab
[01:30] <jcd1006> robotgeek: how would i do that?
[01:30] <robotgeek> jcd1006: aptitude purge mozilla-firefox
[01:31] <robotgeek> jcd1006: then install the package again
[01:31] <jcd1006> robotgeek: sorry im new to linux...where or what is aptitude? or do i run that in terminal
[01:31] <robotgeek> jcd1006: sorry. you gotta do that in a terminal
[01:31] <_kurt> jci: aptitutde is a frontend for apt-get
[01:31] <jcd1006> robotgeek:  ok, thank you, i will try that real fast
[01:32] <Seveas> _kurt, it's a replacement, not a frontend
[01:32] <_kurt> Seveas: hm. Never knew that.
[01:32] <_kurt> Always used apt-get. heh.
[01:32] <poningru> CookedGryphon: dude you sure the line is good? could it be that after you connected couple of times some damage came to the line?
[01:32] <Seveas> _kurt, aptitude, apt-get, synaptic, kynaptice, kpackagemanager, gnome-app-install are all frontends to libapt
[01:33] <poningru> can you check using your telephone?
[01:33] <_kurt> ahh.
[01:33] <_kurt> okay. that makes sense then.
[01:33] <jcd1006> robotgeek: when i did the purge thing it brought back two errors " aptitude purge mozilla-firefox"
[01:33] <jcd1006> crap
[01:33] <_kurt> or is that dpkg?
[01:33] <jcd1006> robotgeek: "E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[01:33] <jcd1006> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?"
[01:33] <_kurt> libapt/dpkg for that matter.
[01:34] <Quinthius> jcd1006: prefix the command with sudo
[01:34] <robotgeek> jcd1006: u have to sudo aptitude purge mozilla-firefox
[01:34] <Seveas> libapt is a frontend to dpkg
[01:34] <jcd1006> robotgeek:  thanks
[01:34] <_kurt> ok.
[01:34] <_kurt> thanks for the clarification
[01:35] <Guest9695747> hi
[01:35] <Guest9695747> i have problems with just installing ubuntu :/
[01:35] <Vexir> Hey guys, I just downloaded some .deb file or whatever for updating ubuntu so it can use my wifi card... so.. my question is, since I'm new to linux and all that, how do I install this .deb update abd then how do I run that network setup wizard thing again (like it did when I installed Ubuntu)
[01:36] <VoX> Vexir: dpkg -i <deb package name>
[01:36] <treke> I'm looking to build a customized ubuntu cd, does anyone know if the tools used to generate the existing releases are publically available?
[01:36] <crimsun> treke: yes
[01:36] <CookedGryphon> poningru, i'm using the line right now
[01:36] <CookedGryphon> the line is fine
[01:37] <TheMuso> Has anybody had trouble rsyncing the preview iso images? I get the message: skipping non-regular file "ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso" when I try to fetch the image.
[01:37] <treke> crimsun: Any chance you could point me to them? I did a bit of a search through the wiki, but wasn't successful
[01:37] <Vexir> VoX: How do I get the package name?
[01:37] <Guest9695747> most of the time it (breezy 386 - installer) stops after trying to load the partition manager
[01:37] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i have a programme newly installed, and i want to make a launcher for it, but to launch it i have to cd to the directory (~/.maple9.5/bin) and then do ./xmaple.... so how can i make a launcher for something like that?
[01:37] <Guest9695747> without an error msg or whatever
[01:38] <VoX> Vexir: you said you just downloaded some .deb files.  to install them, type: dpkg -i <package_that_you_just_downloaded>
[01:38] <bur[n] er> are the preview images livecd's or installs?  or both? or one and the same?
[01:38] <crimsun> treke: please search the ubuntu-users mailing list archive
[01:38] <CookedGryphon> sexcopter8000m, make a shell script
[01:38] <kevogod> bur[n] er, They are separate.
[01:38] <crimsun> bur[n] er: separately live and install
[01:38] <Vexir> VoX: the name of the file is linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386_<IP_ADDRESS>-1gb_i386.deb ... I type that in? All of it?
[01:38] <treke> crimsun: Ok thanks. Wasn't expecting to find stuff like that on it :)
[01:38] <bur[n] er> aww
[01:39] <sexcopter8000m> CookedGryphon: no idea how :s
[01:39] <jcd1006> i'm having problems reinstalling, i thought i remembered how, but i do not
[01:39] <kevogod> bur[n] er, Disappointing, but still not a big deal
[01:39] <bur[n] er> is the final breezy gonna be that way too?  I think I saw UbuntuExpress was going to be forgone for this release?
[01:39] <VoX> Vexir: yes
[01:39] <vu_> Does anybody know how lonf ago did this ubuntu project start?
[01:39] <Vexir> VoX: lol okay :) and what about the network setup wizard
[01:40] <HrdwrBoB> vu_: 18 months or so
[01:40] <HrdwrBoB> iirc
[01:40] <vu_> I see
[01:40] <CookedGryphon> sexcopter8000m, make a text file that starts with the line "#!/bin/bash" which tells the script to use the bash shell, then type the commands you want to exxecute on the next lines, save it as something.sh and set the permissions to executable
[01:40] <VoX> Vexir: "base-config"
[01:40] <Vexir> VoX: yaay. <3 :-P
[01:40] <CookedGryphon> the thing you are executing is probably a shell script itself
[01:40] <CookedGryphon> what is that btw, maple?
[01:40] <Guest9695747> can someone help me?
[01:41] <robotgeek> !info sudo apt-get build-dep openscenegraph
[01:41] <robotgeek> !info  openscenegraph
[01:41] <jcd1006> robotgeek: can i just go into the add/remove programs and add firefox back in?
[01:41] <ubotu> openscenegraph: (3D scenegraph binary files), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 0.9.8-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 990 kB, Installed size: 3052 kB
[01:41] <CookedGryphon> is that the sciencey mathsy program taht my uni said i might need, where do u get that for linux? do u ahve to buy it?
[01:41] <communico> hi, I'm trying to install some harddrives in my new ubuntu setup. I'm unsure which howto doc I should be following. can anyone tell me the difference between a hardware raid and a software raid?
[01:42] <crimsun> CookedGryphon: no, you don't have to buy
[01:42] <robotgeek> CookedGryphon: try scipy/octave
[01:42] <kevogod> communico, Hardware RAID is operated by a RAID controller and Software RAID is operated by the Operating System.
[01:42] <bur[n] er> communico: you're setting up a raid?
[01:42] <kevogod> communico, Hardware RAID is generally considered to be faster and more reliable, but Software RAID can be easier and cheaper to setup.
[01:42] <Guest9695747> am i beeing ignored ? oO
[01:43] <mjr> hardware raid can also be dependent on a particular controller brand
[01:43] <Seveas> Guest9695747, what's your problem?
[01:43] <communico> kevogod: thanks! I've been trying to find this out for days, heh. well I tried following the hardware raid howto in the forums, but I kept getting this error at a particular step
[01:43] <sexcopter8000m> ok CookedGryphon, have done, and "sh ~/maplelauncher.sh" works. now how can i make an icon for it along the top?
[01:43] <Guest9695747> [01:52:01]  <Guest9695747> most of the time it (breezy 386 - installer) stops after trying to load the partition manager
 without an error msg or whatever
[01:44] <CookedGryphon> right click on the panel and say add launcher
[01:44] <CookedGryphon> then type in that command
[01:44] <kevogod> communico, RAID setups generally work best with identical hard drives.
[01:44] <bur[n] er> Guest9695747: not sure what to say... i've never used the installer for breezy
[01:44] <cyphase> do i have to do a dist upgrade to go from colony 3 to colony 4, or will it happen automatically?
[01:44] <Guest9695747> 5.04 installer crashes after the first time i press enter
[01:44] <sexcopter8000m> ah ok, ty CookedGryphon
[01:44] <spider> hmm another question... I'm trying to play DVD with Totem... I've installed the gstream plugins for most video and audio codecs, and I've run the install for libdvdcss2... I got nice video, but no sound, and the wiki for restricted format on ubuntun.com doesn't talk abotu that problem... where can I look at ?
[01:44] <CookedGryphon> add to panel, custom application launcher to b specific
[01:44] <communico> kevogod: it says "ERROR: zero sectors on /dev/sdc" I thought that meant I hadn't formatted it properly
[01:45] <Guest9695747> so im quiet confused
[01:45] <mjr> spider, hmh, did you install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg also?
[01:45] <communico> kevogod: yes, they're all identical harddrives, there are four of them in a raid5 configuration
[01:45] <spider> jr : I did
[01:45] <mjr> spider, ok then, dunno
[01:45] <bur[n] er> spider: possibly start "esd" ??
[01:45] <spider> burner : what is esd ?
[01:45] <Seveas> Guest9695747, so stick to 5.04 - 5.10 is not stable yet
[01:45] <Guest9695747> ..
[01:45] <mjr> oh yeah, check gstreamer-properties for working sound
[01:45] <Guest9695747> jeah right
[01:45] <bur[n] er> esd == enlightenment sound daemon
[01:45] <bur[n] er> just start it ;)
[01:45] <jcd1006> bur[n] er: thank you, i got it working
[01:45] <bur[n] er> see if it works
[01:46] <jcd1006> robotgeek: thank you, it's working now
[01:46] <bur[n] er> jcd1006: sure, i didn't do anything though ;)
[01:46] <Guest9695747> ill use the setup wich crashes after the first 2 seconds...
[01:46] <snausages> how do i create a link (shortcut) of, say, solitaire on my desktop?
[01:46] <kevogod> communico, When does this error occur?
[01:46] <communico> kevogod: so I ran through the installing a new harddrive howto on the wiki. I got confused at the mounting part. what does mounting mean, exactly? I'm coming from a dos background
[01:46] <spider> ok, will try all that, thanks
[01:46] <cyphase> Do I have to do a dist-upgrade to go from colony 3 to colony 4, or will it happen automatically?
[01:46] <communico> kevogod: when I type dmraid -ay -v
[01:46] <Muhammad> how can i install flash ?
[01:46] <Muhammad> how can i install flash ?
[01:46] <Seveas> cyphase, dist-upgrade
[01:46] <Seveas> !flash
[01:46] <ubotu> flash is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:46] <bur[n] er> !tell muhammad about flash
[01:46] <bur[n] er> doh
[01:46] <Guest9695747> i even had to take out the batery to restart the notebook
[01:46] <cyphase> Seveas, thanx
[01:47] <kevogod> communico, Mounting basically means making the Operating System aware of the contents of the partition/drive.
[01:47] <bur[n] er> Guest9695747: holding hte power for 5+ seconds didn't do it?  /me doubts it
[01:47] <Guest9695747> well i bet i hold it 15 sec
[01:47] <kevogod> communico, And ready for use
[01:47] <bur[n] er> communico: you sure you want to be setting up a raid?  it's not for extra storage?
[01:48] <Jonf> How can I install Cedega??
[01:48] <kevogod> bur[n] er, Well, he does have four identical hard drives! What would you do with four identical hard drives...
[01:48] <communico> I'm actually a chick, heh heh
[01:48] <kevogod> Jonf, You have a purchased copy of Cedega? Or do you wish to compile the free version?
[01:48] <Guest9695747> whatever the problem is i cant install ubuntu 5.04 neither 5,10
[01:49] <communico> bur[n] er: it's mostly for data security
[01:49] <kevogod> communico, You can never tell online.
[01:49] <seb1> kevogod: there is a free version of cedega ?
[01:49] <blunted_> !grub
[01:49] <ubotu> grub is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:49] <snausages> when i try to install flash, i get this message: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[01:49] <kevogod> seb1, The free version does not have 'all' of the added features of Cedega.
[01:50] <tarvid> i'm in a pickle
[01:50] <seb1> kevogod: have you some url, or something ?
[01:50] <tarvid> did an apt-get update apt-get upgrade on breezy tonight and blew up postfix
[01:50] <communico> kevogod: it's all good. so I mounted the drives onto /raid/disc1 /raid/disc2 etc .... they show up in the filesystem, and display the right number of megabytes down the bottom. but when I try to save anything on them, it says it can't do it
[01:50] <sexcopter8000m> CookedGryphon: have done, but doesn't seem to do anything when i click it. should it be an "application" or something else?
[01:51] <sexcopter8000m> like link, or service
[01:51] <Guest9695747> well should i stick to xp or whatever? :/
[01:51] <kevogod> seb1, http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=cedegacvs
[01:51] <tincan_30> greetings - anyone have any luck setting up ubuntu as an LDAP client.  pam.d config are killing me.
[01:51] <communico> kevogod: so I'm thinking they're not mounted properly ... I'm thinking there's probably something else I should have done to mount a raid
[01:51] <kevogod> Guest9695747, Use Ubuntu Hoary (5.04)
[01:51] <seb1> kevogod: thx :)
[01:51] <Guest9695747> ...
[01:52] <Muhammad> i am getting : E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[01:52] <Muhammad> what shall i do ?
[01:52] <Guest9695747> hoary install freezes my notebook after the first press enter stuff!
[01:52] <Guest9695747> @ kevogod
[01:53] <snausages> Muhammad, i'm getting the same thing heh
[01:53] <snausages> i guess it's not on the server, or something...
[01:53] <kevogod> Guest9695747, Well, then please contribute the specifications of your notebook to the Ubuntu developers so they can get it resolved for you in Breezy.
[01:54] <Guest9695747> hmm...
[01:54] <nickrud> I could use a bit of advice: I just come into possession of about 25 ibm ultra star  68pin ultra3 9.1G drives (ddys-to9170). I know nothing about scsi; any pointers on the best way to use a few of these?
[01:54] <Deathy> Shutdown doesn't want to work on my notebook :)
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> nickrud: throw them at people you don't like
[01:55] <Guest9695747> well the breezy installer seems to work.. a little bit...
[01:55] <nickrud> HrdwrBoB, garbage, then?
[01:55] <kevogod> Guest9695747, Have you tried another Linux flavor before?
[01:55] <kevogod> aka distribution
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> nickrud: alternatively put them in a mirrored configuration for the system data
[01:55] <bytefoo> how can i make my fonts look better
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> not so much garbage
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> mirrored as a system partition they're useful
[01:55] <bytefoo> smoother, crisper, etc
[01:55] <Guest9695747> it curently crashes to some kind of useless bash while loading the partition manager
[01:56] <bytefoo> sort  of like a ClearType Tuner for Linux if such a thing exists?
[01:56] <Guest9695747> nope @ other distribution
[01:56] <jcd1006> what is a good dvd decrypter program and dvd shrink program?
[01:56] <nickrud> HrdwrBoB, by mirrored, you mean something like a raid0 or such? (haven't used raid either)
[01:56] <lakcaj> jcd1006, dvddecrypter and dvdshrink :)
[01:56] <jcd1006> it works on here too?
[01:56] <bytefoo> badung cha!
[01:56] <lakcaj> jcd1006, works fine via wine
[01:56] <sexcopter8000m> nn all
[01:56] <Guest9695747> i'v heard that ubuntu should be the beginnerfriendliest so now im trying it
[01:57] <Guest9695747> :/
[01:57] <jcd1006> lakcaj:  i used it in windows, but i didnt realize it works on linux too
[01:57] <lakcaj> yep
[01:57] <jcd1006> lakcaj: what is wine?
[01:57] <bytefoo> :/
[01:57] <bytefoo> a fortified spirit
[01:57] <bytefoo> :D
[01:57] <funkyHat> bytefoo, system > preferences > font
[01:57] <lakcaj> wine is not an emulator
[01:57] <funkyHat> jcd1006, wine is a win32 API for linux
[01:58] <kevogod> Guest9695747, Well, it may be more streamlined than a lot of other Linuxes, I would not say it is the easiest. Since proprietary formats are popular, Ubuntu requires extra attention.
[01:58] <nickrud> HrdwrBoB, thanks for the pointer: mirrored configuration and raid on google says a lot
[01:58] <lakcaj> jcd1006, http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/
[01:58] <Guest9695747> hm
[01:58] <HrdwrBoB> nickrud: no worries :)
[01:58] <Guest9695747> so any idea wich one i could try instead?
[01:58] <HrdwrBoB> yeah
[01:59] <HrdwrBoB> nickrud: you can easily setup raid in the ubuntu installer
[01:59] <jcd1006> what about a burning program?
[01:59] <kevogod> Guest9695747, You could try SUSE Linux.
[01:59] <robotgeek> jcd1006: i would recommend k3b, it worked for me
[01:59] <nickrud> HrdwrBoB, thanks
[02:00] <kevogod> Guest9695747, http://www.opensuse.org/
[02:00] <jcd1006> robotgeek: thanks
[02:00] <Guest9695747> dont u have to buy suse for all the better packages or whatever?
[02:00] <kevogod> Guest9695747, No.
[02:00] <Guest9695747> hm
[02:01] <blunted_> !grub
[02:01] <ubotu> I guess grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:01] <imterro> hey guys, what version of X does ubuntu have
[02:01] <Guest9695747> 5 cds oO
[02:02] <NoUse> !info xserver-org
[02:02] <spider> thanks for all the help guys
[02:02] <kevogod> Guest9695747, There is a DVD version floating around.
[02:02] <NoUse> !info xserver-xorg
[02:02] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-10 (hoary), Packaged size: 5322 kB, Installed size: 15220 kB
[02:02] <imterro> thanks
[02:02] <Serpentwolf> cool
[02:03] <communico> does anyone know a command you can type in that will give you a summary of the hard disks on the computer, and how much MBs are free or in use?
[02:03] <NoUse> communico df -h
[02:03] <bimberi> communico: df -h
[02:03] <kevogod> Sadly though, a lot of browsers have trouble downloading it correctly since it is such a large file.
[02:03] <robotgeek> communico: also df -kh for a readable output
[02:03] <kevogod> And they do not calculate the size correctly
[02:03] <jcd1006> i'm having some problems changing my dvd drive to dma being on
[02:04] <communico> thanks guys!!
[02:04] <jcd1006> i tried doing sudo /etc/hdparm.conf but it didn't work
[02:04] !lilo:*! Modifications to http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#offtopic .... to expand upon "various forms of antisocial behavior"
[02:04] <NoUse> jcd1006 you're trying to execute that file, you have to run a text editor
[02:04] <robotgeek> jcd1006: you are trying to execute a configuration file.
[02:04] <kevogod> My boot partition is 96% used, is that healthy? :)
[02:04] <Guest9695747> sounds like fun :/ @ suse dvd
[02:05] <robotgeek> jcd1006: instead try sudo gedit /etc/hdparm.conf
[02:05] <jcd1006> oh, thats what it said to do on that link
[02:05] <NoUse> jcd1006 which link?
[02:05] <jcd1006> http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/
[02:05] <kevogod> Guest9695747, You could try DesktopBSD (http://www.desktopbsd.net/)
[02:06] <Guest9695747> maybe ill try a ubuntu live cd first....
[02:06] <Guest9695747> bsd? oO
[02:06] <bimberi> kevogod: seems high - got few old kernels in there?
[02:06] <NoUse> jcd1006 yeah thats a typo
[02:06] <bimberi> got *a*
[02:06] <kevogod> bimberi, Only two :-)
[02:07] <kevogod> I think it is safe for me to remove one though.
[02:07] <kevogod> Not having any troubles with this one
[02:07] <jcd1006> NoUse: thanks
[02:07] <bimberi> probably no need - just be aware at the next kernel upgrade
[02:08] <imterro> guys, i am having trouble installing gfx drivers for my mobility radeon 9700
[02:08] <neighborlee> I rarely do this and dont recall..which .bash file do I edit to export needed variables ..I thought it was $HOME/.bash.bashrc  ?
[02:08] <imterro> and thusfar i can only find drivers for everythign else but this
[02:08] <imterro> can anyone help?
[02:09] <Serpentwolf> good point, how does one get ati going on ubuntu for laptops
[02:09] <kkathman> aha so breezy finally made it to preview eh?
[02:09] <bur[n] er> get ati going?
[02:09] <bimberi> neighborlee: ~/.bashrc (iirc)
[02:10] <imterro> well atm i cannot use opengl
[02:10] <bur[n] er> neighborlee: might be prudent to also symlink ~/.profile to ~/.bashrc
[02:10] <bur[n] er> imterro: breezy?
[02:10] <imterro> because i dont have the proper drivers for my card
[02:10] <imterro> no hoary
[02:10] <Guest9695747> isnt it posible to install ubuntu from a live cd? or do u get there just the same installer as on the instalation cds?
[02:10] <bur[n] er> imterro: i bet you can edit the xorg.conf to make it work
[02:10] <crimsun> Guest9695747: use the installer if you wish to install
[02:10] <bur[n] er> imterro: what ati card?
[02:10] <neighborlee> bimberi, k thx yes...no wonder...: .bashrc wont even come up as a known file in gedit
[02:10] <neighborlee> bimberi, bites
[02:10] <imterro> mobility radeon 9700
[02:10] <neighborlee> bur[n] er, ic
[02:11] <bur[n] er> radeon 7000 or 9000
[02:11] <imterro> 9000
[02:11] <Guest9695747> instaler dosnt want to install ;) @ crimsun thats the problem
[02:11] <bur[n] er> imterro: apt-cache search fglrx
[02:11] <cevizoglu> Guest9695747: anything is possible, but it's definitely not worth it over just using the normal install
[02:11] <crimsun> Guest9695747: where does it die?
[02:11] <bur[n] er> !fglrx
[02:11] <ubotu> fglrx is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:11] <bur[n] er> :)
[02:12] <Guest9695747> 5.04 installer dies after the press enter or type server and press enter when i press enter ;)
[02:12] <neighborlee> bur[n] er, .bashrc wont even show a a loadable file in  gedit run as root!!
[02:12] <Guest9695747> and 5.10 instaler dies curently while loading the partition manager
[02:12] <crimsun> Guest9695747: have you tried the 5.10 preview installer?
[02:13] <kevogod> crimsun, Yes, he has.
[02:13] <Serpentwolf> imterro : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21677.html
[02:13] <jcd1006> i changed the setting in that file and saved it and then looked it up again in terminal and its still showing off(dvd drive using dma)
[02:13] <crimsun> Guest9695747: please inspect the log on an alternate vt when it dies
[02:13] <Guest9695747> 5.01 seems to freeze the pc 5.10 crashes to something like a useless shell (can type whatever but i wont get an error msg or whatever)
[02:13] <Guest9695747> 5.01=5.04
[02:13] <imterro> thanks
[02:14] <Guest9695747> an alternate vt??
[02:14] <crimsun> Guest9695747: alt+F[23]
[02:14] <Guest9695747>  whats a vt? and how do i do this?
[02:14] <cevizoglu> terminal
[02:14] <Guest9695747> ahh
[02:14] <Guest9695747> moment i can try it again...
[02:14] <jcd1006> robotgeek: i changed the setting in that file and saved it and then looked it up again in terminal and its still showing off(dvd drive using dma)
[02:15] <jcd1006> NoUse: i changed the setting in that file and saved it and then looked it up again in terminal and its still showing off(dvd drive using dma)
[02:15] <cevizoglu> my dvd drive likes to show off too
[02:15] <robotgeek> jcd1006: you can issue an command directly i believe, one sec
[02:16] <NoUse> jcd1006 you'll need to reboot to have that take effect
[02:16] <bur[n] er> neighborlee: it probably doens't exist
[02:16] <communico> are there any conventions about where you should mount a harddrive? I'm trying to install just a normal secondary one now, not a raid. in the howto, it gives this command as an example '/dev/hdd1 /backup' i'm wondering why they use a folder called /backup. Is that just arbitrary, or is there some reason for that?
[02:16] <bur[n] er> neighborlee: you have to create ~/.bashrc  and don't do it as root
[02:16] <tarvid> getting an error upgrading postfix on breezy
[02:17] <jcd1006> NoUse: so it won't show up until I reboot?  thanks
[02:17] <tarvid> tfix/postfix-script: fatal: usage: postfix start (or stop, reload, abort, flush, check, set-permissions, upgrade-configuration[fail]
[02:17] <communico> sorry 'mount /dev/hdd1 /backup'
[02:17] <bur[n] er> communico: arbitrary
[02:17] <tarvid> any way out of this mess?
[02:17] <communico> bur[n] er: thanks
[02:17] <azahid> Can anybody help me with the Opera browser so that it can play internet videos using the mplayer or other plugins. Firefox can play fine.
[02:17] <nightswim> evening
[02:18] <transgress_> what's the command to configure sound?
[02:18] <Guest9695747> ok what shall i do on the other console now? @ cevizoglu
[02:18] <sn0n> alsamixer
[02:20] <transgress_> no not configure the sound volume and stuff... actual sound card.  it didn't pick up in the install and i wanna see what i can find for it
[02:20] <neighborlee> bur[n] er, no .bashrc does exist..but not even running gedit as root can see it (them)..I also have .bash_profile...wth ??
[02:21] <cevizoglu> Guest: I believe crimsum said something about inspecting the log when it dies
[02:22] <bur[n] er> neighborlee: chown it to the user :)
[02:22] <bur[n] er> neighborlee: and chmod it?
[02:22] <neighborlee> bur[n] er, yeah I know but this is dain odd behavior out of the box
[02:22] <Guest9695747> well on f4 and f3 is something wich looks like a log....
[02:23] <bur[n] er> neighborlee: sudo chown username:username .bashrc && sudo chmod 777 .bashrc
[02:23] <neighborlee> bur[n] er, isn't 'export' variables to be done in /etc/profile..export PATH is there so i'd think that would be the file ...???
[02:23] <bur[n] er> yeah, odd
[02:23] <Guest9695747> but i dont know even if there is something important...
[02:24] <cevizoglu> hmm... ubotu is always accusing me
[02:24] <bur[n] er> silly ubotu
[02:25] <nalioth> whois tritium
[02:26] <mivey> I'm trying to find an article I read recently about the development environment at canonical.  It was mentioning some of the nice things they have set up, like an IRC bot that reports on all the commits.  Anyone else read that and have a link?  (it is a long shot, I know)
[02:26] <crimsun> nalioth: ?
[02:26] <nalioth> crimsun: missing my / <<<points to needing a nap
[02:27] <bobby> does any one  have good guide for setting up a routing/firewall box under ubuntu?
[02:27] <funkyHat> is there a linux version of the musicbrainz tagger?
[02:27] <Guest9695747> the only thing wich tries to look important is the floppy detection wich says something like fatal: ther is no floppy
[02:27] <crimsun> funkyHat: yes
[02:27] <linuxpoet> anybody here actually get skype with callin/out working
[02:28] <cevizoglu> mivey: my friend google might know
[02:28] <crimsun> sure. You just need to disable esd and make sure any other apps hogging /dev/dsp are closed, linuxpoet
[02:28] <linuxpoet> hmm
[02:28] <linuxpoet> ok
[02:28] <linuxpoet> how do I disable esd?
[02:29] <crimsun> uncheck System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup
[02:29] <linuxpoet> Basically I can call the number but I can't answer it for some reason, nor can I hang up.. and then skype just freaks out
[02:29] <mivey> cevizoglu: i've been looking :)  I've tried google...I've searched the ubuntu wiki, I've read through people's blogs...I can't find it :)
[02:29] <bur[n] er> linuxpoet: killall esd
[02:29] <linuxpoet> ok did both of those
[02:30] <linuxpoet> lets see what happens
[02:30] <linuxpoet> oh craop
[02:30] <linuxpoet> err crap
[02:30] <linuxpoet> cool
[02:30] <linuxpoet> thanks guys!
[02:30] <gusto5> hello. ive installed vusualboyadvance by apt-getting it
[02:30] <gusto5> how do i run it?
[02:30] <bur[n] er> gusto5: in your menu under "games" ?
[02:30] <gusto5> bur[n] er, its not there.
[02:31] <delp> it's still showing dma off
[02:31] <bur[n] er> gusto5: you have a "debian" menu in your menu?  maybe it's under that?
[02:31] <gusto5> bur[n] er, nope.
[02:32] <gusto5> not under my menu or submenus, bur[n] er
[02:32] <transgress_> okay sorry, had to wonder off... but is there not a command to configure the sound card?
[02:32] <bur[n] er> gusto5: i dont' know the command ;)  sorry
[02:33] <gusto5> s'ok bur[n] er lol
[02:33] <bur[n] er> gusto5: go to a term and just type "v<tab><tab>"
[02:33] <bur[n] er> you might get lucky and find the full name
[02:34] <Vexir> For some reason Ubuntu wont let me su into root.. I type "su" and it asks for the password and I put in my password but it says access denied or whatever..
[02:34] <Vexir> I'm pretty sure I got my password right
[02:34] <Agrajag> Vexir: use sudo, not su
[02:34] <Vexir> so..
[02:34] <delp> robotgeek:  when im trying to turn the dma on for my dvd drive, do i need to change the address from cdrom to dvdrom or does that matter?
[02:34] <Vexir> okay
[02:34] <Agrajag> sudo -s for a root shell, or sudo <command> to run a command as root
[02:34] <Vexir> ill try that
[02:34] <gusto5> bur[n] er, if i sudo-install something, will it install the dependencies?
[02:34] <Vexir> thx
[02:34] <Mr_You> hi
[02:35] <robotgeek> delp: i dont think that matters
[02:35] <delp> ok, and do i need to do cdrom0 and cdrom1 or just 0?
[02:35] <Mr_You> checkin out gnoppix for the first time, pretty sweet, but seems no distribution works with my wifi out of the box ;-)
[02:35] <delp> robotgeek: ok, and do i need to do cdrom0 and cdrom1 or just 0?
[02:35] <bur[n] er> gusto5: definately
[02:36] <CCFIEL> hello ppl..
[02:36] <bur[n] er> if you sudo install, it will... if you pseudo install... i dunno ;)
[02:36] <robotgeek> delp: how many cdrom/dvdroms have u got?
[02:37] <transgress_> Mr_You: probably a card that requires ndiswrapper
[02:37] <transgress_> which means no distro would work for it out of the box
[02:37] <delp> robotgeek: i have a dvd-rom and a dvd burner
[02:37] <Mr_You> wow, pretty crazy, X is using 107M VIRT, 24M RES, firefox is using 110M VIRT 47M RES
[02:37] <rob_p> bobby:  Not sure if you got an answer regarding setting up a Linux firewall/router yet but this little tutorial might help:  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/28/76/
[02:37] <robotgeek> delp: and do u know which ones they are?
[02:38] <gusto5> bur[n] er, im gonna try reinstalling it again...
[02:38] <steeev> i have just installed hoary hedgehog but totem won't play my mpeg-4 movie
[02:38] <bur[n] er> gusto5: i bet it's there... just find the executable name
[02:38] <bur[n] er> what is the name of the emulator?
[02:38] <Mr_You> transgress: I dunno, I'm pretty sure there is a compatible driver, it just doesn't recognize the "Toshiba" description when probed.
[02:38] <steeev> i do not know how to get programs I want
[02:38] <gusto5> VisualBoyAdvance, bur[n] er
[02:38] <bur[n] er> !tell steeev about restrictedformats
[02:39] <bur[n] er> gusto5: check the website for that app?
[02:39] <gusto5> bur[n] er, will check again
[02:40] <bur[n] er> steeev: you wouldn't happen to be an old litestepper?
[02:40] <delp> robotgeek: i do not
[02:41] <bur[n] er> gusto5: vba is the command :)
[02:41] <gusto5> really?
[02:41] <robotgeek> can u grab that info from System->Administration-> device manager?
[02:41] <gusto5> nothing comes up.... bur[n] er
[02:41] <Guest9695747> oO
[02:41] <bur[n] er> gusto5: there's no gui
[02:41] <Guest9695747> wow now it works...
[02:41] <delp> robotgeek: when i look in my dev folder i have dvd, dvd1, and dvdrw along with cdrom, cdrom1, and cdrw
[02:41] <gusto5> bur[n] er, what does that mean?
[02:41] <bur[n] er> from a term... run "vba file"
[02:41] <bur[n] er> there's no point & click interface
[02:41] <bur[n] er> it's strictly command line
[02:42] <gusto5> bur[n] er, layman's terms?
[02:42] <Tufek> hi, Is  Ubuntu Linux 5.10 Preview work well on sata raid 0 ?
[02:42] <Guest9695747> now i want to know if ill see the gnome today
[02:42] <robotgeek> delp: can u do a ls -al in the /dev folder and see if they are symlinked?
[02:42] <bur[n] er> gusto5: you can't use your mouse
[02:42] <Guest9695747> bot i wont ;(
[02:42] <bur[n] er> gusto5: you run it via 'terminal'
[02:42] <delp> robotgeek: all of those have a @ after them
[02:42] <gusto5> bur[n] er, how do i run it via "terminal"
[02:42] <bur[n] er> gusto5: try a different emulator ;)
[02:42] <bur[n] er> gusto5: get one with a gui :)
[02:42] <robotgeek> delp: though i am betting that dvd1 is your dvdrom and and dvdrw is your dvd writer
[02:42] <gusto5> LOL bur[n] er
[02:43] <gusto5> bur[n] er, you know one by any chance?
[02:43] <bur[n] er> gusto5: use synaptic and search for "game boy" :)
[02:43] <bur[n] er> iv'e never used any to be honest
[02:43] <bur[n] er> i have snes & nes emu's but not a game boy one
[02:43] <Mr_You> openoffice 153M VIRT 67M RES ouch hehe
[02:43] <gusto5> bur[n] er, hahah...i need it to play FFVI on SNES
[02:43] <h17m4n> !wine
[02:44] <bur[n] er> gusto5: you want an SNES emulator?
[02:44] <delp> robotgeek: i wasn't sure if it would be that or if dvd was my dvdrom and dvd1 along with dvdrw was my burner since it is a dvdrom and burner
[02:44] <bur[n] er> wtf you getting game boy ones for then?
[02:44] <gusto5> bur[n] er, i think ive found me one :)
[02:44] <bytefoo> lawlz :/
[02:44] <bur[n] er> gusto5: use zsnes :)
[02:44] <gusto5> bur[n] er, thats the one i found :)
[02:44] <bytefoo> sudo apt-cache search snes
[02:44] <bytefoo> :/
[02:44] <gusto5> bur[n] er, who the heck plays pokemon :P
[02:44] <bur[n] er> no need for sudo to search
[02:45] <bur[n] er> gusto5: got me... only game for game boy I know that's popular
[02:45] <robotgeek> delp: i have never used a dvdrw b4, so u might just wait for some more time and ask around again!
[02:45] <gusto5> bur[n] er, true say...very true say.
[02:45] <delp> robotgeek: ok, thank you for trying
[02:46] <bur[n] er> delp: what does your "device manager" show?
[02:46] <bytefoo> wtf
[02:46] <bytefoo> totem doesn't support dvd menus?
[02:46] <bytefoo> wtf :/
[02:46] <bytefoo> ahh hmm
[02:46] <bytefoo> nm :|
[02:46] <bur[n] er> lol
[02:46] <bytefoo> i was about to flip
[02:46] <h17m4n> did anyone try Age Of Empires 3 with wine?
[02:47] <lakcaj> delp, what does dmesg | grep hd say?
[02:47] <gusto5> woohoo!
[02:47] <gusto5> bur[n] er, thanks :D
[02:47] <bur[n] er> gusto5: no problem
[02:48] <delp> burn[n] er: where is the device manger?  the dev folder?
[02:48] <benplaut> another day, another colony
[02:48] <benplaut> err, preview :P
[02:48] <Madpilot> hi all
[02:48] <delp> lakcaj: it shows my dvdrom as hdc and my burner as hdd
[02:49] <lakcaj> delp, well, if you cat /etc/fstab, you can see where the mount points are for those devices.  Is that what you were after?  I only started reading at the end of your conversation.
[02:50] <steeev> so do i need to convert my mpeg4 files into a different/free format?
[02:50] <bytefoo> that sucked :/
[02:51] <delp> lakcaj: i'm trying to turn on dma so i can use dvd shrink and decrypter
[02:51] <nalioth> steeev: you dont have to
[02:51] <nalioth> steeev: linux will play all mp4 except for the DRMd ones
[02:52] <bytefoo> sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[02:52] <lakcaj> delp, hdparm -d1 /dev/hdd
[02:52] <foxiness> did the ubuntu team fix the dma on xine and other
[02:52] <bytefoo> shoudl do it delp :/
[02:52] <lakcaj> delp, what bytefoo said
[02:52] <bytefoo> whichever your drive is :/
[02:52] <lakcaj> right
[02:53] <bobby> thanks rob_p
[02:53] <foxiness> nice to hear
[02:54] <delp> so i will only have todo it to the one drive?
[02:54] <Guest9695747> muharr
[02:54] <lakcaj> you can do it on both if the drives support it.  I can turn on dma for both my burner and my dvd drive
[02:54] <Guest9695747> and again...
[02:55] <Guest9695747> ubuntu install has finished wanted to restart and now
[02:55] <lakcaj> delp, are you sure dma is even off?
[02:55] <delp> lakcaj: what exactly does turning it on and off do?
[02:55] <delp> it was, i checked
[02:55] <rob_p> bobby:  No prob :-)  I wrote it specifically for Ubuntu.  Let me know if it helps, is clear, easy to understand, etc.  There's also a little script that you can download which sets up the NAT-routing capabilities, etc.
[02:55] <lakcaj> dma = direct memory access
[02:55] <lakcaj> translation -> speeds things up
[02:55] <Guest9695747> alert! /dev/hda5 foes not exist dropping to shell
[02:55] <delp> ok, cool
[02:55] <Guest9695747> me confused
[02:56] <lakcaj> dma is (Direct Memory Access) PCs have DMA channels that allow certain devices to directly access memory in order to speed up the process. to turn on dma, hdparm -d1 /dev/hda. to make it permanent, edit /etc/hdparm.conf
[02:56] <delp> i ran the one command that dvd shrink's site said to run to check for it being enabled or not and it showed it as off
[02:56] <rob_p> bobby:  Or you can Ubuntu-firewall, which I wrote for Ubuntu as well.  It provides a nice stateful firewall with NAT-routing support.  There's a link to it from that page.
[02:56] <delp> lakcag: do you run that same command to turn it back off?
[02:56] <delp> lakcaj: do you run that same command to turn it back off?
[02:57] <Guest9695747> how can i find out where the problem comes from?
[02:57] <oddball_> okay i'm having problems... i can't get my sound to work, and when i try to follow the wiki it tells me to install the source packages for alsa... i'm doing that, but the alsa-utils package fails because it requires a curses library
[02:57] <Gui_> hello everybody
[02:57] <lakcaj> delp, -d0 for off
[02:57] <bytefoo> it means you are trying to install to hda5, which is a partition that doesn't exist
[02:57] <lakcaj> delp, but there is no reason to turn it off
[02:57] <oddball_> anyone have some suggestions?
[02:57] <oddball_> please
[02:57] <delp> ok, i was just checking
[02:58] <Gui_> I'm running Ubuntu from a Live CD, and I've managed to reach the files in my HD
[02:58] <Gui_> (by mounting it to a /mnt/windows directory)
[02:58] <Gui_> but I can't reach in the folders from within OpenOffice! Can anyone help?
[02:59] <bytefoo> ?
[02:59] <Gui_> I managed to open the /mnt/windows folder, calling nautilus from the terminal, though
[02:59] <bytefoo> what do you mean reach :|
[02:59] <matthew_w> Hey there - does anyone know why Enemy Territory would hang on open under Ubuntu?  I've had it working in Mandriva etc... Just in Ubuntu when I start it it hangs, all I get is a black screen.
[02:59] <Gui_> I couldn't open it just from the file browser
[03:00] <Gui_> I had to call nautilus from the terminal, and then browse to the folder I wanted
[03:00] <bytefoo> hmm
[03:00] <Gui_> and OOo still has access denied to it
[03:00] <Vexir> hey.
[03:01] <bytefoo> i dunno
[03:01] <Gui_> so I think I have to give it authorization thru the terminal, but don't know how
[03:01] <bytefoo> some kind of permission problem
[03:01] <Vexir> whee, got internet working on ubuntu
[03:01] <Vexir> much easier than gentoo
[03:01] <tarvid> need help with postfix on breezy
[03:01] <Vexir> lol
[03:01] <Vexir> does anyone know how to install ATI drivers
[03:01] <Gui_> can I call OOo thru the terminal, like I did with nautilus?
[03:01] <tarvid> postfix-script: fatal: usage: postfix start (or stop, reload, abort, flush, check, set-permissions, upgrade-configuration[fail]
[03:01] <Vexir> for my Radeon 9800 Pro
[03:01] <Random_Transit> hey, i'm running the ubuntu 5.04 liveCD and i'm having trouble mounting my hard drives
[03:01] <Vexir> please :)
[03:01] <bytefoo> do sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:02] <Vexir> i try running 'sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx'
[03:02] <Vexir> haha yeah
[03:02] <Vexir> it says
[03:02] <Gui_> Random_Transit, I had this problem too
[03:02] <bytefoo> and then edit your xorg.conf
[03:02] <communico> okay I've just managed to mount a new harddrive. I found I could make a directory on it using the root terminal, but I can't through the gui. is there a command I can type in the terminal to see what write permissions my new hard drive has?
[03:02] <bytefoo> to change everything that says ati to fglrx
[03:02] <Gui_> bytefoo, was that for me?
[03:02] <bytefoo> :|
[03:02] <bytefoo> no for Vexir
[03:02] <Gui_> ok
[03:02] <bytefoo> for Gui_, you should be able to read them
[03:02] <Vexir> it says it cant find the package
[03:02] <bytefoo> since linux can only read ntfs partitions
[03:02] <bytefoo> Vexir, it is in a different repository
[03:03] <Vexir> bytefoo, how do i access it?
[03:03] <Gui_> bytefoo, what do you mean? I should be able to open these files in OOo?
[03:03] <Vexir> bytefoo, not that i know what a repository is... but anyway
[03:03] <Guest9695747> help :/
[03:03] <bytefoo> i think universe
[03:03] <bytefoo> or possibly extras
[03:03] <bytefoo> or possibly multiverse o_O
[03:03] <bytefoo> !repo
[03:03] <ubotu> bytefoo: What?
[03:03] <bytefoo> :/
[03:03] <delp> after i download the flash plug in, how do i install it?
[03:03] <Vexir> bytefoo, so how do i access it?
[03:04] <Random_Transit> btw, can anyone tell me if Canon Scanners and/or Lexmark printers are supported under Ubu?
[03:04] <bytefoo> http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[03:04] <Madpilot> !tell Vexir about repos
[03:04] <Madpilot> !tell bytefoo about ubuntuguide
[03:04] <Gui_> so... noone on how I could give permission to OOo to access anything?
[03:04] <delp> thanks
[03:04] <bytefoo> !tell Madpilot to bite me
[03:05] <Gui_> or tell me this: how do I call OOo from the terminal (just to launch the app)
[03:05] <Madpilot> Random_Transit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org/
[03:06] <Guest9695747> can someone tell me why im dropped to a shell after a new install?
[03:06] <Gui_> welcome to nonhuman world, steeev =)
[03:07] <Guest9695747> muharr @steeev.. me too
[03:07] <delltony> i changed all my hoary's in sources.list to breezy and i get failed indexes any idea why?
[03:07] <delltony> wanting to dist-upgrade
[03:07] <Gui_> hm... still no one on how to authorize OpenOffice to reach anywhere in my HD?
[03:08] <Gui_> or how to call it from the terminal?
[03:08] <Vexir> bytefoo, I enabled the repositorys using the wiki instructions... it still cant access it :-(
[03:08] <bytefoo> did you sudo apt-get update
[03:08] <delltony> http://pastebin.com/358522 anyone see any problem with this sources.list
[03:08] <nalioth> Vexir: did you update your apt?
[03:08] <delltony> cause when i do apt-get update i get failed indexs on the backports
[03:09] <Vexir> uh
[03:09] <matthew_w> I've been trying everything..  Is there some way to minimize a fullscreen app so I can see what's going wrong with Enemy Territory
[03:09] <Vexir> how do i update my apt..
[03:09] <Madpilot> Vexir: if you're using Synaptic, hit the Reload button
[03:09] <bytefoo> well there are no breezy backports for one :X
[03:09] <Vexir> im doing it now anway
[03:09] <Vexir> okay
[03:09] <bytefoo> ?
[03:09] <Vexir> apt-get updated and synaptic is reloaded
[03:10] <Vexir> still wont find it
[03:10] <parktownprawn> Gui_:  you want to run open office from the terminal - type ooffice
[03:10] <bytefoo> well it is int here
[03:11] <Gui_> yay, thx parktownprawn
[03:11] <Gui_> I trying sthg else, will try your solution right after
[03:11] <reiki> ok... hmmm... inserted usb flash drive and nothing happened... am I supposed to DO something when I insert a flas drive?
[03:11] <twigsby> do a search for fglrx in synaptic and see what it finds
[03:11] <jcole> how do i make apt install suggests/recommended packages automatically?
[03:12] <rafter> hi I got a ? about memory the system monitor says i am using 185MB out of  600MB. i got 640MB of ram 32MB shared for vidio.I open a terminal run top i get 590MB used +/- 22MB +/- free why the discrepency?
[03:12] <Webby`> How do I upgrade to Breezy Preview Release using commands? I am using Breezy Colony 4.
[03:12] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell me about repos
[03:12] <EasterSunshine> hey, does ubuntu and kubuntu have the same repos?
[03:12] <twigsby> yes, they should do
[03:13] <nalioth> jcole: if you open a terminal and type "man apt-get' you'll get much info (or just use synaptic)
[03:13] <jcole> rafter: cat /proc/meminfo
[03:13] <nalioth> EasterSunshine: yes they do
[03:13] <bytefoo> Webby`, I thought Colony 4 was the latest.
[03:13] <Webby`> bytefoo: No, there is a preview release listed at distrowaych.com
[03:13] <Webby`> distrowatch*
[03:14] <bytefoo> i think it is Colony 4 they are referring to
[03:14] <Vexir> bytefoo, any ideas as to why it cant find the package for the ati driver
[03:14] <bytefoo> since it was released like 2 days ago :|
[03:14] <reiki> !usb
[03:14] <ubotu> reiki: Syntax error in line 1
[03:14] <elisboa> is it possible to install a basic debian sarge via debootstrap and then dist-upgrade it flalessly to breezy?
[03:14] <Roots> I thought you were giving a URL in ebonics for a second there Webby` >_>
[03:14] <twigsby> vexir, are you using hoary or breezy?
[03:14] <Webby`> lol
[03:14] <Vexir> twigsby, Hoary
[03:14] <fangorious> i just booted the gnome 2.12 livecd, which appears to be running some version of breezy, and i can't seem to change the resolution
[03:14] <bytefoo> Vexir, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=fglrx&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hoary&release=all
[03:14] <twigsby> i don't think the fglrx package is named the same as in hoary
[03:15] <oddball_> so
[03:15] <Webby`> What's the command to upgrade to the Preview release?
[03:15] <oddball_> anyone here care to help me with my sound?
[03:15] <Exdaix> anyone have an idea why mythtv and mythtv-setup Seg Fault everytime I run it?  I went thru all the setup guides and everything is fine, but it keeps Seg Faulting
[03:15] <jcole> nalioth: i did... no switches in apt-get to do so
[03:15] <twigsby> open synaptic and seach for fglrx by name and description and see what it finds
[03:15] <cevizoglu> hmm... I think I'll wait until the final release.. I installed release 4, and it crashed while installing the bootloader
[03:15] <rafter> jcole it coinsides with top output
[03:15] <nalioth> jcole: use synaptic, and right click on the pkg, look at 'suggested pkgs'
[03:16] <fangorious> i looked at the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and it seems to have the resolution I want specified, but using System->Preferences->Screen Resolution I can't set it to anything other than 640x480
[03:16] <nalioth> !tell jcole about synaptic
[03:16] <EasterSunshine> i want to update to the newest version of gaim, which is like 1.5 or something, without losing my settings, but i do not want to update/upgrade the whole system, what is the command for this?
[03:16] <cevizoglu> how many of you are going to dist-upgrade to breezy?
[03:16] <oddball_> me
[03:16] <Webby`> me
[03:16] <rafter> jcole why does the system monitor b so wrong
[03:16] <jcole> nalioth: i know about synaptics check box that does that... i want to do it with apt-get since i'm ssh'ed to the machine
[03:16] <Webby`> If I can get the command that is ;)
[03:16] <cevizoglu> hmmm, maybe I will backup and give it a shot  :)
[03:17] <Vexir> bytefoo, okay i downloaded the package.. now what
[03:17] <oleavr> does anyone know if breezy's xorg is 6.8.2 with backported DRI, or if it's 6.8.99.xx versioned as 6.8.2?
[03:17] <cevizoglu> it'll be much more bearable with my new wireless card :D
[03:17] <fangorious> anyone?
[03:17] <delltony> is there an offical breezy source.list?
[03:17] <oddball_> brb
[03:17] <Gui_> ok, I managed to open one of my files into OOo, thx parktownprawn
[03:17] <bytefoo> Vexir, you should be able to open up a terminal by right clicking, and then typing "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx"
[03:17] <parktownprawn> great
[03:17] <bytefoo> and it should install itself :|
[03:17] <Gui_> new problem now: just found out my HD is read-only for Ubuntu
[03:18] <nalioth> jcole: what i usually do is c/p the "suggested" into the end of the "install blah" line i've got goin
[03:18] <Gui_> any easy way to change that?
[03:18] <cevizoglu> how about http://archive.ubuntu.com for official
[03:18] <bytefoo> Gui_, linux can not write to NTFS hard drives
[03:18] <bytefoo> which is what XP uses :|
[03:18] <Gui_> aha
[03:18] <nalioth> jcole: but i'm a barbarian
[03:18] <Vexir> bytefoo, but it wont! i just tried again! but, i have the package downloaded on my desktop, what do i do with it?
[03:18] <parktownprawn> gui_: you're running a live-cd ?
[03:18] <Gui_> rrrrright
[03:18] <Gui_> yes, live CD
[03:18] <Vexir> bytefoo, ill navigate to the directory in the terminal
[03:18] <Vexir> bytefoo, but i need ot know the command to install it
[03:18] <Gui_> ok, so Ubuntu will only be able to read these files, whichever they are
[03:19] <Madpilot> Gui_: if they're in an NTFS drive, yes
[03:19] <fangorious> anyone know how to change the resolution (livecd)?
[03:19] <Gui_> Madpilot, they are: files created under Windows
[03:19] <Vexir> What is the command to install a package using the terminal if the package is on the desktop?
[03:20] <bytefoo> Vexir, you can install the package  you downloaded, but you really need to figure out why it can't install through apt-get or synaptic :|
[03:20] <Vexir> Is it dpkg -1 <name> ?
[03:20] <monteiro> i've a PIV 2,4 with 256 ram, and my mouse have breaks when i execute programs. My mouse is infrared, is the logitech mx 700, anyone can help me ?
[03:20] <fangorious> Vexir, you mean an actual .dpkg file? dpkg -i /path/to/file
[03:20] <Gui_> ok, so lemme try something else now... thx anyway
[03:20] <Vexir> bytefoo, I searched in synaptic for fglrx, it doesnt come up with anything
[03:20] <bytefoo> and you updated?
[03:20] <Vexir> fangorious, its a .deb
[03:20] <Vexir> bytefoo, yeah
[03:20] <fangorious> Vexir, that's what I meant :)
[03:21] <Madpilot> Vexir: there are at least half a dozen fglrx-related files in the repos...
[03:21] <fangorious> Vexir, did you search the ubuntu wiki for binary drivers howto?
[03:21] <omp> i have installed e17 following a guide on the forums, but i dont know how to enter e17 instead of gnome
[03:21] <Vexir> fangorious, yep.
[03:21] <Vexir> Madpilot, well i cant find em :) i THINK i enabled the universe repos
[03:22] <Vexir> Madpilot, Whether I did it right or not, dont ask me, I just followed the wiki.
[03:22] <Gui_> but behold! my USB key, where I saved stuff thru windows, is recognised as read/write/execute! excellent
[03:22] <fangorious> Vexir, have you looked at this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495
[03:22] <Madpilot> !+info xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:22] <ubotu> xorg-driver-fglrx: (Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators), section restricted/misc, is optional. Version: 6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11 (hoary), Packaged size: 3110 kB, Installed size: 9940 kB
[03:22] <nalioth> damned bots
[03:22] <bytefoo> Vexir, it is in the restriced repository actually
[03:22] <Vexir> bytefoo, um.. okay.. so how do i enable that one
[03:23] <rafter> jcole why does the system monitor b so wrong
[03:23] <rafter> opps
[03:23] <bytefoo> it should be already enabled
[03:23] <Gui_> perfect! Down to work then. Thx again everybody, it's always helpful around here
[03:23] <monteiro> my mouse as little stops in ubuntu, i think it's my ps/2 mouse, because my PC is a PIV 2,4 256 ram, and sometimes the mouse has that little stops. anyone knows ?
[03:24] <Vexir> bytefoo, well something is quite screwy isnt it.
[03:24] <Vexir> bytefoo, regardless, i installed the package using dpkg,
[03:25] <delp> i need help installing the flash plug in
[03:25] <Vexir> gonna restart.. bbl
[03:25] <rafter> jcole top gives me real time stats
[03:25] <delp> i tried going by the unofficial unbuntu guide and its still not installing
[03:26] <Madpilot> delp: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:26] <gusto5> hey bur[n] er, its me again. is there a GBA-equivalent you know of?
[03:28] <nalioth> delp: the unofficial guide can cause trouble
[03:28] <Twylo> Folks, can I say something?  I've been using Linux since 1992 (SLS 0.96, woo).  I've had my ups and downs.  About 20 minutes ago I installed Ubuntu, and it is the best freaking Linux that I have ever used.  Seriously.
[03:28] <nalioth> !tell delp about restricted
[03:28] <nalioth> Twylo: yes, i've found that too
[03:29] <l_> I am trying to compile alsa driver but I am getting compile errors
[03:29] <rafter> Twylo u have to b joking
[03:29] <Twylo> Not at all.
[03:29] <fangorious> anyone? changing resolution?
[03:30] <Twylo> I gave up fighting with another distro on my ThinkPad.  Couldn't get my wireless card or audio working.  Ubuntu just came up, boom, worked.
[03:30] <nalioth> !tell fangorious about resolution
[03:30] <Twylo> After 13 years of Linux, I like things to just work :)
[03:30] <nalioth> Twylo: i've used linux since 97 and i like ubuntu too
[03:31] <l_> Twylo, what do you use? or thik is better
[03:31] <Twylo> Before Ubuntu I was on FC3 and FC4
[03:31] <rafter> Twylo my biggest problem is getting any linux dist to support a 85 key keyboard
[03:31] <Twylo> Before that, various RedHats.  Before that, Slackware.  Before that, SLS.
[03:31] <wahad> i got freee ubuntu disk... can i install it with windows xp ? ..win xp on c and ubuntu on e ?
[03:31] <reiki> where does one "associate" files... like when I double-click an mp3 I want it to open NOT with Totem (very choppy) but with RhythmBox
[03:32] <BlueEagle> Ok, a couple of questions. I want CTRL+ALT+RightArrow to launch 3ddesk --gotoright, but keylaunch isn't doing the trick for me. Anyone got any experience with custom hotkeys?
[03:32] <fangorious> nalioth, thanks but my xorg.conf already has the right set of resolutions configured, i just can't seem to use any of them other than 640x480
[03:32] <BlueEagle> Also I would like metacity (or is it nautilus) to relinquish control of the root window.
[03:32] <bytefoo> i used the custom buttons on my laptop to do that
[03:32] <bimberi> !tell reiki about defaultapp
[03:32] <bytefoo> but that deals with acpi and not so much key combinations i think :|
[03:33] <wahad> i got freee ubuntu disk... can i install it with windows xp ? ..win xp on c and ubuntu on e ?
[03:33] <BlueEagle> reiki: You can alter the assosiacion by right-clicking and setting it in properties.
[03:33] <nalioth> fangorious: drastic measures are in order
[03:33] <Madpilot> wahad: yes, you can have both on your computer. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[03:33] <reiki> okies
[03:33] <BlueEagle> wahad: is "e" another partition or another disk?
[03:34] <fangorious> nalioth: i'm booting off a livecd, is that going complicate things?
[03:34] <wahad> another patiotn.
[03:34] <auk> does oo have a restore feature?
[03:34] <wahad> partition
[03:34] <auk> *OOo
[03:34] <rafter> Twylo ur thinkpad KB has how many keys
[03:34] <Vexir> Well didnt work, I still cant make resolution higher than 1024
[03:34] <nalioth> fangorious: not at all
[03:34] <fangorious> nalioth: ok, lay it on me :)
[03:34] <BlueEagle> wahad: Yes, you can do that, but be advised the "e" is known as something like /dev/hda3, /dev/hda5 or /dev/hda6 in linux.
[03:34] <BlueEagle> wahad: unless you're using a scsi or sata disk in which case it is /dev/sda*
[03:34] <Madpilot> auk: what do you mean by restore feature?
[03:35] <BlueEagle> (where * is 3, 5 or 6
[03:35] <delp> is there a reason i can't go to "https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=110956"  well i can but it shows up blank
[03:35] <nalioth> fangorious: open a terminal, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  . Most of the questions should just be defaulted, but make sure you have ONLY the resolution you want enabled
[03:35] <wickedpuppy> hey guys does ubuntu has word recognition software for tablet pc ?
[03:35] <nalioth> delp: sourceforge has been having problems for a while now
[03:36] <BlueEagle> wickedpuppy: handwriting recognition?
[03:36] <Madpilot> delp: that URL works for me right now - Opera 8.02/Ubuntu Hoary...
[03:36] <auk> MadPilot: restore lost documents, liek if you shut down w/o saving
[03:36] <delp> nalioth: i opened it a minute ago, but now it won't...is there any other way to get gplflash?
[03:36] <matthew_w> Hey there - does anyone know why Enemy Territory would hang on open under Ubuntu?  I've had it working in Mandriva etc... Just in Ubuntu when I start it it hangs, all I get is a black screen.
[03:36] <BlueEagle> wickedpuppy: I think you'd need to google about that, but it would kind of suprise me if it had. :)
[03:36] <wickedpuppy> BlueEagle, yes
[03:36] <auk> (shutdown computer, not openiffice directly)
[03:36] <BlueEagle> wickedpuppy: Any handwriting recognition that runs on linux will also (most likely) run on ubuntu.
[03:36] <rafter> hi I got a ? about memory the system monitor says i am using 185MB out of  600MB. i got 640MB of ram 32MB shared for vidio.I open a terminal run top i get 590MB used +/- 22MB +/- free why the discrepency?
[03:37] <wickedpuppy> ah i see
[03:37] <Madpilot> auk: ah OK. no, I don't think it does that, but I'm not at all certain. check the OOo website?
[03:37] <BlueEagle> rafter: cache most likely.
[03:37] <BlueEagle> rafter: Also some memory is locked away in the kernel.
[03:37] <Simpleton> Hey fellas, might anyone know why, on breezy, apt-get install network-manager requests libcairo1 0.5.2, when .3.0.1 is the latest one released?
[03:38] <Simpleton> (and the one installed)
[03:38] <BlueEagle> simpleton: because it's not considered stable or because your cache isn't updated afaik.
[03:38] <reiki> should I have to do anything special to have a usb flash drive recognized when I insert it?
[03:38] <auk> MadPilot: i'm already doing that, but i thought i'd ask anyways...apparently it /used/ to pop up with the lost document on next tiem you open OOo
[03:38] <onehourtonothing> Hello, I installed libdvdcss2 and totem but when I play a dvd the video is laggy
[03:38] <nalioth> reiki: if it works, it should be in /media/
[03:38] <onehourtonothing> can someone help
[03:38] <BlueEagle> reiki: Well, you need to have drivers for it. Try sudo fdisk -l and see if it shows up.
[03:38] <nalioth> !tell onehourtonothing about dma
[03:39] <reiki> nalioth: oh... ok... I thought it would "appear" on my desktop like CDs do
[03:39] <wahad> i have a whole free e partition as ntfs..do i need the resize thing to have both winxp and ubuntu ? i now have winxp on c partition? . what to do
[03:39] <BlueEagle> reiki: ofcourse check the manual of fdisk what -l does so you don't listen to an idiot and whipe your entire drive like I've seen people recomend.
[03:39] <onehourtonothing> thank you nalioth
[03:39] <nalioth> reiki: it might, i just have never had ANYTHING appear on my desktop
[03:39] <Madpilot> auk: cool feature - Opera does the same thing with websites if it's crashed or shut down badly...
[03:39] <rafter> thanx BlueEagle i'll have to inform the ppl who develop system monitor
[03:40] <Simpleton> BlueEagle, I did an apt-update, but there must be someway to install network-manager?
[03:40] <nalioth> Madpilot: what has that feature?
[03:40] <Simpleton> err apt-get update
[03:40] <robotgeek> Simpleton: are you on breezy/hoary?
[03:40] <BlueEagle> simpleton: Well, considering you've already got a later version installed it might be a bug with system monitor and the spesific version. However you might want to bug report it.
[03:40] <Madpilot> nalioth: auk was saying above the OOo did - or used to - restore after a crash...
[03:40] <bytefoo> oooh, firefox 1.5 beta O_o
[03:40] <nalioth> Madpilot: so does galeon
[03:40] <BlueEagle> simpleton: It could just be an oversigth.
[03:41] <BlueEagle> ght*
[03:41] <Simpleton> robotgeek: breezy, i just installed it and finally got X to load properly
[03:41] <BlueEagle> simpleton: I mean breezy is still beta isn't it? :)
[03:41] <reiki> ahhh... ok... I see usbdisk in /media ... doesn't seem to be reading it though
[03:41] <Simpleton> robotgeek: apparently the dist-upgrade i did messed up my xorg.conf file and i had to redo it
[03:41] <Madpilot> nalioth: it's useful for browsers; even the best of them eat bad code sometimes! (I think there's a restore plugin for FF as well...)
[03:41] <auk> Madpilot: you mean it does that with form data, or something?
[03:41] <moshe> does anyone know which files xfce draws its menus from?
[03:41] <Simpleton> BlueEagle: Yea, but I heard SO many good things about this network manager, and it wouldnt install on hoary, so :P
[03:41] <moshe> I have duplicate menus and I want to cut out the entries that it's drawing from kde.
[03:42] <BlueEagle> simpleton: It might be broken all together. I've never heard of it. :)
[03:42] <BlueEagle> simpleton: Then again I've never needed it. :p
[03:42] <factotum> is there a newer version of firefox than what came with the hoary release, and if so why does apt-get "hold it back"? What do i need to do to install it?
[03:42] <reiki> oh wait... I formatted it originally from XP.
[03:42] <Madpilot> auk: if Opera crashes - or the whole box does - when you restart Opera you'll be asked if you want to restore the previous session, all your web pages & stuff that were open when Opera crashed. it's a cool feature...
[03:42] <bytefoo> i can't believe they took out the right click > open terminal in gnome :(
[03:42] <Simpleton> BlueEagle: it's suppose to be the wireless network connection manager for breezy
[03:43] <auk> hmmm...
[03:43] <cevizoglu> Madpilot: Epiphany does that as well
[03:43] <Simpleton> BlueEagle: Said to follow the "Just Works" philosphy, and will allow easy roaming like on XP with the Zero Configuration service
[03:43] <bytefoo> Network Selector?
[03:43] <afaik> hello... I have linux installed on a dell inspiron 1100 laptop, and it seems to get VERY HOT! I tried several linux distributions, the same problem occurs. I don't have this problem when I boot to windows, so I am assuming this is perhaps some configuration issue
[03:43] <nalioth> Madpilot: opera is not FOSS. galeon is
[03:43] <afaik> any ideas?
[03:43] <auk> this looks bad
[03:43] <BlueEagle> What I do need is someway to make CTRL+ALT+Right arrow to launch 3ddesk --gotoright
[03:43] <rafter> BlueEagle ur right i got 284 +/- cached
[03:43] <afaik> galeon is crap anyway
[03:43] <moshe> galeon used to be cool
[03:43] <BlueEagle> rafter: :)
[03:43] <afaik> that's why they went to the gecko engine
[03:43] <moshe> oh, those were the days
[03:43] <afaik> anyway, any ideas?
[03:43] <auk> in the forums, i found someone sayign to check tools > options > load/save > general > always make backup copy
[03:44] <BlueEagle> rafter: free -mt usually makes the numbers add up (more correctly) iirc
[03:44] <robotgeek> Simpleton: it will work on breezy, though you might have to cvs compile it
[03:44] <auk> i happen to have "aoutosave every __", but not that one
[03:44] <rafter> k
[03:44] <auk> (i have checked, that is)
[03:44] <omp> shh
[03:44] <omp> ahh
[03:44] <omp> enlightenment is retarded
[03:44] <BlueEagle> afaik: Tried disabling acpi?
[03:45] <omp> i installed enlightenment and ended up messing gnome
[03:45] <omp> now im stuck with it :/
[03:45] <Simpleton> robotgeek: Won't the cvs compile still require the libcairo1 package? Even the package directory on packages.ubuntu.com tells me im SOD, with a "package unavailable" on the requirements page next to libcairo1
[03:45] <afaik> BlueEagle, I have no idea what acpi is
[03:45] <robotgeek> Simpleton: just do a "sudo apt-get build-dep network-manager" and then cvs compile it. worked for me
[03:45] <BlueEagle> afaik: advanced controllable power interface (or some such)
[03:46] <BlueEagle> afaik: You can disable it by passing acpi=no to the kernel I think. If not you can definatly disable it when you install your custom kernel.
[03:46] <delp> where is the best place to extract files that you are going to be installing using terminal commands?
[03:46] <afaik> BlueEagle, ah.. what's the ubuntu way of installing a new kernel?
[03:47] <afaik> or how can I just pass acpi=no to the kernel?
[03:47] <bytefoo> i would say /tmp
[03:47] <bytefoo> :/
[03:47] <Simpleton> robotgeek: I hate to be a bother, but how do I go about performing a cvs compile after that step? I'm still learning my way around the terminal
[03:47] <auk> YYYYEEEEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!
[03:47] <BlueEagle> afaik: cd /usr/src/linux && make menuconfig && make && make modules_install && cp arch/i386/boot/bzimage /boot/kernel-2.6.11c && gedit /boot/grub/grub.conf  <= add your kernel here.
[03:48] <robotgeek> Simpleton: are you gonna be around after an hour or so? i need to go away now!
[03:48] <auk> i am such an idiot though
[03:48] <Simpleton> robotgeek: Most likely not :( Gotta sleep soon, school starts far too earliar here
[03:48] <afaik> BlueEagle, oh, I knew that
[03:48] <BlueEagle> afaik: You need to install kernel sources first though.
[03:49] <afaik> I just thought it may be special like debian is
[03:49] <robotgeek> Simpleton: the instructions are in the readme file, pretty straightforward
[03:49] <oleavr> anyone with hoary who could please send me /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a? :)
[03:49] <oleavr> (want to try an ugly hack on my breezy system)
[03:49] <Simpleton> robotgeek: There is readme file?
[03:49] <BlueEagle> afaik: Well there might be "another way"(tm) but It might not be "a better way"(tm) still. :)
[03:50] <BlueEagle> I want to get ctrl+alt+rightarrow to run 3ddesk --gotoright
[03:50] <BlueEagle> anyone at all?
[03:50] <BlueEagle> keylaunch just won't do the trick for some odd reason. :(
[03:51] <Vexir> GAIM is annoying... i like trillian better... is there any way to get trillian on Ubuntu
[03:51] <rafter> BlueEagle how are u @ keyboards ubuntu does not give me an option for a 85 key KB lots of apps dont work well because i had to chose the 102 key KB
[03:51] <Ex-Cyber> how can I erase and write a CD-RW through nautilus?
[03:52] <reiki> hmmm... /media is no longer showing the usb flas drive but fdisk -l seems to be showing it to me as /dev/sda1
[03:52] <transgress_> is there not a command to configure sound?
[03:52] <Vexir> Ex-Cyber: Take a sharpie and eraser and fish for a nautilus.
[03:52] <transgress_> i could've sworn there was
[03:52] <BlueEagle> rafter: You'll need to try someone else or perhaps your favorite search engine. :)
[03:53] <BlueEagle> rafter: However I would believe that 85 key kbds would be supported in atleast us/uk layout.
[03:53] <nalioth> reiki: i've found that ubuntu isnt quite there yet for multiple USB/fw pluging/unplugging
[03:53] <reiki> nalioth: can ubuntu read FAT16 by default?
[03:54] <nalioth> reiki: yes it can
[03:54] <rafter> BlueEagle had no luck in 2 years searching just thought i ask thanx
[03:54] <delp> i have tried three times to install gpflash so i can have flash plug in in firefox and still have no luck, can someone help me?
[03:55] <delltony> if you mount it it can
[03:55] <delltony> mount -t vfat
[03:55] <BlueEagle> never mind. It was just a syntax error :)
[03:55] <reiki> nalioth: ok I'll have to test this flash drive tomorrow on a windows box at work. When I first inserted it, it showed up under /media, but wasn't seeing any files.
[03:55] <BlueEagle> rafter: Well, I'm sorry I can't help. :)
[03:55] <nalioth> delp: the wiki article ubotu sent you didnt help?
[03:55] <reiki> nalioth: may have gone through the washer and drier one too many times
[03:55] <delp> i tried that and it didn't work nalioth
[03:55] <nalioth> reiki: that could be an issue
[03:56] <rafter> BlueEagle: don't b sorry it will b worked out some day :)
[03:56] <nalioth> delp: what is your hardware? are you running amd64 or ppc ubuntu?
[03:57] <delp> amd64
[03:57] <delp> nalioth, amd64
[03:57] <Mr_You> wow no gnoppix channel?
[03:57] <Mr_You> #gnoppix
[03:57] <delp> nalioth: and i went by the 64 processor instructions and it still won't work
[03:58] <nexus-> hmmm
[03:58] <nalioth> delp: lots of things dont work on amd64, like they should
[03:58] <VoX> heh
[03:58] <VoX> nod
[03:58] <nalioth> delp: i dont have a -64, so am not able to help you on that
[03:58] <VoX> <-- has issues with his amd64 aswell
[03:58] <BlueEagle> Now, anyone know how to make metacity or nautilus (which ever is in charge) relinquish control of the root window so I can run /usr/lib/xscreensaver/glmatrix -root in it?
[03:58] <delp> nalioth: so i will have to be without a flash plug in?
[03:58] <nalioth> delp: or use the k7 or 686 kernel
[03:59] <VoX> ewww
[03:59] <nexus-> is it safe to force dependency on this?
[03:59] <nexus-> http://pastebin.com/358545
[03:59] <delp> is anyone that is running a amd64 able to install a flash plug in for firefox?
[03:59] <VoX> bugger going to a k7 kernel just for flash
[03:59] <nexus-> im trying to get debian testing's wpasupplicant binary
[03:59] <nexus-> apparantly the ones ubuntu have are broken
[03:59] <BlueEagle> nexus-: It probably won't kill you, but it might f**k up your system. :)
[04:00] <Mr_You> man I think gnoppix/unbuntu on a Live CD is faster than XP.
[04:00] <VoX> delp: i dont think it's possible. i've been trying to get a few things running under amd64, without much success.
[04:00] <BlueEagle> mr_you: Then there's something seriously wrong with your XP setup. :)
[04:00] <nalioth> delp: VoX: more than flash wont run on amd64
[04:00] <nexus-> BlueEagle, well i probably don't care with breezy on the horizon ;)
[04:00] <BlueEagle> nexus-: Well there you go. :)
[04:00] <VoX> nalioth: heh i've noticed :P
[04:01] <rafter> BlueEagle: elaborate on that
[04:01] <delp> nalioth: it sucks
[04:01] <VoX> delp: it's to be expected
[04:01] <BlueEagle> rafter: on what?
[04:01] <delp> maybe the next release of ubuntu will support amd64 more
[04:02] <rafter> /usr/lib xscreensaver/glmatix
[04:03] <BlueEagle> delp: It's not an ubuntu problem but rather a linux problem. You see most production houses (in this case macromedia) tend to release software for windows first. Now, as you may or may not know, 64-bit architecture is quite new and even the windows versions have got bugs that need ironing out. This takes resources away from the linux development process.
[04:03] <onehourtonothing>  so I get lag when I watch movies and someone sent me a link for dma. That fixed it but it doesn't work when I reboot, and I did what the page says, it still doesn't work
[04:04] <BlueEagle> rafter: You can run a screen saver in the root window (desktop window) of X, however metacity or nautilus comandeer the root window and show their own (in this case not so nice) graphics there.
[04:04] <BlueEagle> rafter: If you try other windowmanagers that don't comandeer that window you can run /usr/lib/xscreensaver/glmatrix -root to put it in the root window for added eye candy points with the lads.
[04:05] <Ufa> hi all
[04:05] <apeitheo> My friend has Ubuntu, is installing it on his Powerbook and the cd apparently works when he's in the OS, but not when he attempts to boot it.  Any ideas what it could be?
[04:05] <BlueEagle> rafter: There shoul (as in ought to be) a way to have metacity or nautilus release the root window so you could do that very same thing in gnome.
[04:05] <BlueEagle> rafter: I just don't know how.
[04:05] <apeitheo> This is the PowerPC edition of Ubuntu
[04:05] <BlueEagle> rafter: That good enough? :)
[04:06] <nalioth> apeitheo: check the md5 sums on the cd
[04:06] <apeitheo> nalioth: These were cds I got in the mail
[04:06] <paulproteus> apeitheo: What sort of problem does he experience?
[04:06] <BlueEagle> apeitheo: Is his powerbook set up to boot from a CD?
[04:06] <Ufa> how do i change my IP from dinamic to static
[04:06] <apeitheo> paulproteus: It just won't boot
[04:06] <paulproteus> apeitheo: Has he held down the Option key while booting to select boot device?
[04:06] <apeitheo> BlueEagle: I'm guessing that's the problem, but I don't have a mac, hence I have no idea how he would do that.
[04:06] <Ufa> i did ifconfig but it didnt work
[04:06] <mik3> what's that game that is a first person shooter
[04:07] <apeitheo> paulproteus: He probably didn't do that.
[04:07] <BlueEagle> apeitheo: I bet TFM would know. Ask him to read it. :)
[04:07] <onehourtonothing> How do I turn on dma so that it begins on every start up
[04:07] <nalioth> apeitheo: in that case, check the md5s. some of the run of cds were not pressed correctly
[04:07] <paulproteus> apeitheo: Tell him to. :)
[04:07] <mik3> what's the apt-get install name of that first person shooter i keep hearing about
[04:07] <elmo_> Can anyone help with a boot error that is preventing me from booting? "pivot_root: no such file or directory" and " /sbin/init:428:cannot open dev/console: no such file"
[04:07] <apeitheo> paulproteus: He said he has.
[04:07] <paulproteus> apeitheo: In that case, tell him to check the CD as others said to.
[04:07] <nfinitep1astik> hello everybahdy!
[04:07] <apeitheo> paulproteus: "i held it down the whole time and tried it a few times"  "it seems like it just doesnt recognize the disc"
[04:08] <apeitheo> paulproteus: But would a cd I got in the mail from shipip (for ubuntu) be bad?
[04:08] <apeitheo> shipit*
[04:08] <paulproteus> apeitheo: There's always the chance, however small.
[04:08] <BlueEagle> elmo_: Souns like your / partition isn't where someone expects it to be. Could also be devfs (if such is used) that isn't installed properly in the kernel.
[04:08] <mik3> what's the apt-get install name of that first person shooter i keep hearing about
[04:08] <apeitheo> How would he check the md5 for the cd?
[04:08] <nfinitep1astik> ubuntu automatically plays ogm and mkv files?
[04:08] <BlueEagle> mik3: ut2003? gunz?
[04:08] <BlueEagle> doom3?
[04:08] <afaik> Halo 2
[04:09] <delp_> can someone tell me how to sign back in as my primary name
[04:09] <rafter> BlueEagle: i foget what i dled but my screesaver is really awsome than the default gnome xsreensaver i dled mostly libs.
[04:09] <afaik> apt-get install Halo2
[04:09] <BlueEagle> delp_: on IRC?
[04:09] <mik3> BlueEagle: no it's a free game
[04:09] <delp_> some how i got kicked but its still signed on
[04:09] <delp_> yes
[04:09] <BlueEagle> mik3: cube?
[04:09] <elmo_> blueeage: is that some way to set the root location and fix it? I am a noob. do not know about devs.
[04:09] <afaik> gotta make sure you add the Warez repository to your apt.sources of course! :P
[04:09] <paulproteus> apeitheo: In Mac OS, find out the device name for the CD, then do "md5sum /dev/<devname>"
[04:09] <mik3> it's a first perosn shooter that doesn't require a lot of resources, i think it's made by the wolfenstein people
[04:09] <paulproteus> mik3: Doom?
[04:09] <BlueEagle> elmo_: What caused this problem to start?
[04:10] <mik3> is doom free?
[04:10] <mik3> =D
[04:10] <afaik> it is now
[04:10] <poningru> ofcourse
[04:10] <mik3> wakakaka
[04:10] <afaik> cause it is, like, only 15 years old
[04:10] <nalioth> delp_: /msg nickserv help ghost
[04:10] <nfinitep1astik> does ubuntu automatically install video and sound codecs?
[04:10] <BlueEagle> mik3: enemy territory? That would be et or wet iirc try apt-cache search wolfenstein
[04:10] <afaik> or therea abouts
[04:10] <mik3> yes enemy territory
[04:10] <Webby`> Can someone tell me when is the command to upgrade to the preview release?
[04:10] <poningru> nfinitep1astik: only free ones
[04:10] <onehourtonothing> How do I turn on dma so that it begins on every start up. I tried and failed... :(
[04:10] <Webby`> I mean What is the command
[04:10] <poningru> you have to install the non free ones
[04:10] <nalioth> !tell Webby` about upgrade2breezy
[04:11] <Webby`> Thank you nalioth
[04:11] <nfinitep1astik> poningru: lol....well, thanks to torrent files,that line is blurred
[04:11] <poningru> nfinitep1astik: free as in freedom not free as in beer
[04:11] <elmo_> BlueEagle: I tried adding a second hd, a slave to the master that has ubuntu on it. I got no response from grub. I then removed the 2nd hd and tried just booting again. Now I have these errors. thanks for the help.
[04:11] <nfinitep1astik> poningru: lol, nice metaphor
[04:11] <poningru> ubotu: tel onehourtonothing about dma
[04:11] <ubotu> poningru: No idea
[04:12] <poningru> dma
[04:12] <poningru> !dma
[04:12] <poningru> wtf
[04:12] <poningru> doh
[04:12] <onehourtonothing> !dma
[04:12] <poningru> ubotu: tell onehourtonothing about dma
[04:12] <rafter> BlueEagle: i do my best work when i'm drunk get nice results just cab't remember how
[04:12] <poningru> rofl
[04:12] <BlueEagle> elmo_: Is your primary harddrive set to Cable Select or spesifically to Master?
[04:12] <zblach> hi
[04:12] <delp_> can someone kick, not ban, delp...its my primary nick, so that way i can sign back on as it?
[04:12] <poningru> you just got your ass flooded
[04:12] <BlueEagle> rafter: :)
[04:12] <BlueEagle> rafter: Cheers then!
[04:12] <disasm> delp_: msg nickserv, theres a ghost command
[04:12] <onehourtonothing> ok so I went to the site everyone just told me about
[04:12] <onehourtonothing> and added it in but it didn't work
[04:13] <BlueEagle> delp_: If you closed the link it will time out.
[04:13] <rafter> BlueEagle: :)
[04:13] <gusto5> is anyone here familar with VMware?
[04:13] <nalioth> delp i sent you the info
[04:13] <BlueEagle> delp_: You could try /ping him so he would time out faster.
[04:13] <nalioth> delp: use 'ghost'
[04:13] <disasm> delp_: oh, and kicking from the channel won't work, delp would need killed, which I don't there are any opers in this channel
[04:13] <gusto5> does VMware allow me to run Windows within Linux, or Linux within windows?
[04:13] <poningru> ubotu: tell nfinitep1astik about restricted
[04:13] <disasm> gusto5: either/or
[04:13] <gusto5> disasm, ok. thanks :)
[04:13] <nfinitep1astik> anyone else having problems installing vlc through apt?
[04:13] <poningru> nfinitep1astik: that site should have a guide that tells you how to install mp3s etc.
[04:14] <disasm> i hate netsplits and having to re-reg every dang time ;-)
[04:14] <zblach> hi. a question about sound. I get the drums when the log-in screen loads, but when I run xmms, i get a popup telling me that my sound is not configured correctly. how to rememdy?
[04:14] <gusto5> ( Operating System ) Linux Ubuntu 5.04 - hoary Kernel: 2.6.10-5-386, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 6.8.2 | IRC CLient: X-Chat v.2.4.3
[04:14] <poningru> onehourtonothing: what do you mean it didnt work?
[04:14] <Quinthius> zblach: go to xmms preferences and set outpug plugin to esound
[04:14] <disasm> zblach: are you using gnome or something else?
[04:15] <elmo_> BlueEagle: hd set to cs
[04:15] <onehourtonothing> I booted again and dma was off again
[04:15] <gusto5> sorry, just checking my kernal...
[04:15] <onehourtonothing> I added what it said to hdparm.conf so that dma would be turned on when I booted
[04:15] <zblach> disasm, gnom
[04:15] <nfinitep1astik> anyone else having problems installing vlc through apt?
[04:15] <zblach> Quinthius, do i need to restart xmms?
[04:15] <BlueEagle> elmo_: Well that might have confused it as grub might have mistaken it for a different drive. Try setting it spesifically to master.
[04:15] <poningru> onehourtonothing: you sure you edited under sudo?
[04:16] <BlueEagle> elmo_: If that does not work you might need to re-install grub.
[04:16] <poningru> go to the file and see if its still therer
[04:16] <poningru> -r
[04:16] <onehourtonothing> poningru: yes
[04:16] <poningru> hmm
[04:16] <poningru> weird
[04:16] <onehourtonothing> poningru: it is still edited after the boot
[04:16] <delp_> is there a way to set up a bookmart or a shortcut to certain irc servers, like on your desktop or in firefox...i know its possible in xp, but not sure about in linux
[04:16] <delp_> *bookmark
[04:16] <Quinthius> zblach: don't think so, but maybe
[04:16] <onehourtonothing> poningru: I might just suck at editing and may have done it wrong
[04:17] <zblach> Quinthius, nothing doing.
[04:17] <Quinthius> zblach: go to system -> preferences -> multimedia selector, on audio output, hit test... does it beep?
[04:17] <nfinitep1astik> poningru: oh btw.....thanks for the link
[04:17] <BlueEagle> elmo_: To re-install grub: Boot from ubuntu install cd, mkdir /oldinstall, mount your linux partitions there and chroot /oldinstall /bin/bash then run grub and root (hd0,X) and setup (hd0)
[04:17] <BlueEagle> elmo_: That should fix it (most likely)
[04:18] <poningru> np
[04:18] <zblach> Quinthius, for every option in every column "failed to construct pipeline"
[04:18] <Webby`> ! Webby` about upgrade2preview
[04:18] <ubotu> Webby`: What?
[04:18] <Webby`> ! Webby` about upgrade
[04:18] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Webby`
[04:18] <Webby`> ! Webby` about upgrade2breezy
[04:18] <ubotu> Webby`: Syntax error in line 1
[04:18] <nalioth> !tell Webby` about upgrade2breezy
[04:18] <poningru> Webby`: what are you doing?
[04:18] <Quinthius> zblach: hmm. go to system -> pref -> sound, and make sure "enable sound server" is unchecked, and then try testing ALSA in the media selector again
[04:18] <Webby`> I'm trying to upgrade from Breezy Colony 4 to Breezy Preview release and it;s not working
[04:19] <zblach> Quinthius, nope. still not working
[04:19] <nalioth> Webby`: you need do nothing. your system will upgrade itself (if you let it)
[04:19] <Chaotic_Reality> Has anyone gotten a buillt-in CF card reader to work on their laptops in ubuntu? if so, any tips?
[04:19] <Webby`> nalioth: Oh ok. Thanks
[04:19] <Quinthius> zblach: ok... sounds like there might be some problem with the driver for your card.... you say you hear the drums at the startuo screen though?
[04:20] <delp_> is there a way to set up a bookmark or a shortcut to certain irc servers, like on your desktop or in firefox...i know its possible in xp, but not sure about in linux
[04:20] <zblach> Quinthius, yup. got drums no problem
[04:20] <nfinitep1astik> anyone else having problems installing vlc through apt?
[04:20] <nalioth> delp_: irc://irc.freenode.org/#ubuntu  you mean?