[05:07] <io>  ndiswrapper (NdisAllocateMemory:200): Windows driver allocating too big a block at DISPATCH_LEVEL: 156816
[05:07] <Dark_pahnt0m> I dont need permissions I need 2 install it DAMN
[05:07] <Mischevious> Madpilot, can you describe tomboy, never heard of it.
[05:07] <io> whats that mean?
[05:07] <Iceman> khermans for oss sound driver ... not alsa
[05:07] <khermans> Dark_pahnt0m, type: ls
[05:07] <khermans> do you see the file?
[05:07] <redleader> yes, i have seen the message, and i'm rtfm right now. thanks for pardoning my noobishness
[05:07] <bjm> comradevik, your user's uid and gid... the one who you want to have rw access on the drive
[05:07] <Dark_pahnt0m> yes cedega_installer
[05:08] <Madpilot> Mischevious, it's a note-taking app, with linking between notes -a sort of mini-wiki idea. it's in Ubuntu's repos
[05:08] <khermans> then: chmod +x cedega_installer; ./cedega_installer
[05:08] <Dark_pahnt0m> I cant open it in editor btw
[05:08] <bjm> khermans, you're a very kind guy :) i salute you
[05:08] <khermans> Dark_pahnt0m, ls -al cedega_installer
[05:08] <Mischevious> Madpilot, i see. thanks
[05:08] <Dark_pahnt0m> It says invalid file or directory, its on my desktop
[05:08] <joehill> #ubuntu+1
[05:08] <joehill> oops.
[05:08] <comradevik> bjm the thing is i can edit the files on the drive. i just can't change permissions
[05:08] <Madpilot> !info tomboy
[05:08] <babo>  there's an explanation here for installing lib32 on amd64. It says to install chroot and then ... " in /usr move default lib32 dir (from linux32) to lib32.local " ... I don't understand this bit ???
[05:08] <ubotu> tomboy: (desktop note taking program using Wiki style links), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.3.2-9ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 141 kB, Installed size: 776 kB
[05:09] <jbritz22> whats the alternative to the make command in ubuntu
[05:09] <Mischevious> Madpilot, has dapper been delayed ?
[05:09] <jbritz22> the sudo make doesnt work for me
[05:09] <Dark_pahnt0m> drwxr-xr-x  2 quicken quicken 4096 2006-03-20 22:44 .
[05:09] <Dark_pahnt0m> drwxr-xr-x  4 quicken quicken 4096 2006-03-20 22:44 ..
[05:09] <Madpilot> Mischevious, yes - I think the new release date is June 1st
[05:09] <Dark_pahnt0m> thats what I got
[05:09] <Mischevious> maddler, ahh ..
[05:09] <bjm> comradevik, you can edit but you still want to change perms? how so? if you can edit, and i suppose by edit you mean you can write, then why do you need to change perms for?
[05:09] <FlannelKing> Yep, June 1.
[05:09] <frank23> jbritz22: there is no alternative. did ./configure go well?
[05:09] <Madpilot> jbritz22, do you have build-essential installed?
[05:09] <tritium> tomboy would be nice if it had a LaTeX mode for taking math notes ;)
[05:09] <comradevik> bjm because apache gives me forbiden when i try to acces the drive through the web
[05:09] <Madpilot> tritium, write a plugin for it :P
[05:10] <khermans> Dark_pahnt0m, im going to give you a command and you will cpy and paste it
[05:10] <tritium> Madpilot: :)
[05:10] <jayr168> guys.. in KDE 3.4 theres always a pop-up that says 'the KDE window manager' it tells about window movement like 'activate'  'raise' 'desktop #' hot do I disable this? its kinda annoying
[05:10] <Dark_pahnt0m> I been copy & pasting commands & fails
[05:10] <bjm> comradevik, ah... apache can't recognize users via http. you need to configure apache, not your drive.
[05:10] <bjm> comradevik, you have to allow it to read from http
[05:11] <bjm> comradevik, pls don't ask me how to configure apache, thanks :)
[05:11] <comradevik>   Order allow,deny
[05:11] <comradevik>    Allow from all
[05:11] <khermans> Dark_pahnt0m, here we go --> cd /tmp; wget http://downloads.transgaming.com/files/cedega_timedemo_installer; chmod +x cedega_timedemo_installer; sudo ./cedega_timedemo_installer
[05:11] <Dark_pahnt0m> would this be easyer if I used KDE??  I've followed the instrcutions on the wiki and copied sources.list into my chroot .. ??? help pls
[05:15] <dli__> Mischevious, which version?
[05:15] <khermans> Mischevious, i use them all the time for UML diagrams and math equations
[05:15] <Mischevious> dli__, uhh. 2.14.03 or somrthing
[05:15] <mad_phoenix> does anybody know what package is for general java development libs?  i installed eclipse, but its having problems finding system.in (imported java.utils.*)
[05:15] <Mischevious> na7e, i like how simple it is
[05:15] <frank23> babo: build-essential  not essentials
[05:15] <babo> I can do an apt-get update fine ... and I've got a ton of repositories in my list
[05:16] <na7e> Mischevious, well, maybe i'll give it a shot again
[05:16] <khermans> babo, sudo -i; sed 's/main restricted/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:16] <raven> Can anyone help me get openGL working please
[05:16] <dli__> Mischevious, my 13 and half minute compiling time is for 2.2.11
[05:16] <Crshman> how do i refresh a DHCP nic from cli?
[05:16] <tritium> Mischevious: why are you compiling abiword rather than installing the ubuntu package??
[05:16] <Mischevious> dli__, i see.
[05:16] <raven> Is there somewhere i can download it?
[05:16] <khermans> Crshman, dhclient eth1 ?
[05:16] <Crshman> ok thnx
[05:16] <Mischevious> dli__, mine just finished, dunno how long it took
[05:16] <dli__> Mischevious, haven't tried 2.4 yet
[05:16] <Mischevious> dli__, but i was also using checkinstall
[05:16] <jayr168> guys.. in KDE 3.4 theres always a pop-up that says 'the KDE window manager' it tells about window movement like 'activate'  'raise' 'desktop #' hot do I disable this? its kinda annoying
[05:16] <bjm> tritium, Mischevious is a hardcore abiworder, don't intrude..
[05:16] <khermans> raven, do you have a good vid card?
[05:16] <Mischevious> bjm, thanks for defending my honor
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> jayr168,  perhaps ask in #KDE - i cant recall seeing such a thing.
[05:17] <raven> Nvidia FX5500 128mb
[05:17] <khermans> jayr168, try #kubuntu
[05:17] <dli__> Mischevious, my building time is in gentoo
[05:17] <bjm> Mischevious, maybe when you have it compiled, you can make a deb for us :)
[05:17] <khermans> raven, you have the nvidia drivers installed?
[05:17] <LinuxNIT> hey guys i have a program i want to start from an icon with "root" privilages. since ubntu uses sudo what command do i have the icon execute so it will ask for the sudo pw?
[05:17] <Crshman> when dapper finally decides to come out, what will i have to do to update? will i have to reformat?
[05:17] <raven> I think so, it flashes nvidia when i log in
[05:17] <babo> frank23: cheers
[05:17] <Mischevious> bjm, i just did, and it was supposed to but it failed, first time i ever had that happen
[05:17] <tritium> bjm: the question is not intrusive.  I wanted to make sure he's aware the package exists.
[05:17] <dli__> bjm, you shouldn't use a .deb from checkinstall by others, make your own
[05:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> LinuxNIT: gksudo
[05:17] <jayr168> how about a screenshot?
[05:17] <LinuxNIT> oh lol
[05:17] <LinuxNIT> thnaks
[05:18] <Mischevious> bjm, it instaleld fine, but the .deb creation failed
[05:18] <khermans> LinuxNIT, gksudo ?
[05:18] <bimberi> LinuxNIT: gksudo command
[05:18] <babo> Khermas: I think it was a typo, thanks anyway :-)
[05:18] <LinuxNIT> thanks guys
[05:18] <LinuxNIT> i didnt know there was a gksudo
[05:18] <khermans> raven, glx-config enable
[05:18] <LinuxNIT> lol
[05:18] <khermans> ?
[05:18] <raven> do i type that into the terminal?
[05:18] <Mischevious> YAY, i had upgraded because the spell check wasn't working
[05:18] <Mischevious> but now it is, YAY. so happy ;-D
[05:18] <bjm> tritium, he said *page up* that he wants thee latest :)
[05:18] <Mischevious> how do i inform a developer
[05:18] <benkillin> how do I instantly erace all my disks in a secure manner with one command
[05:18] <Mischevious> that the packaged ubuntu abiword
[05:18] <Mischevious> is broken
[05:19] <Mischevious> ?
[05:19] <khermans> Mischevious, bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[05:19] <Mischevious> khermans, thank you
[05:19] <tritium> benkillin: easiest is to download dban, burn it to cd, boot from it...
[05:19] <Crshman> when dapper finally decides to come out, what will i have to do to update? will i have to reformat?
[05:19] <bimberi> !bugzilla
[05:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu's bugzilla ( http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com ) is now closed to new bugs.  The new bugtracker is at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[05:19] <Mischevious> :-(
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> instantly. :P
[05:19] <tritium> Crshman: no reformatting.  Simply dist-upgrading.  Don't worry, instructions will be provided.
[05:19] <khermans> Crshman, nope
[05:20] <raven> khermans,  what do i have to do?
[05:20] <dli__> xfce4-panel crashes too often :( any known issues or fixes?
[05:20] <Crshman> o ok cool, also any ppl use wpa on breezy in here?
[05:20] <benkillin> use icewm
[05:20] <Toma-> anyone use badram patch?
[05:20] <khermans> raven, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[05:20] <khermans> in a terminal
[05:20] <raven> khermans,  ty
[05:20] <jbritz22> hey mischevious\
[05:20] <dli__> Toma-, can you just buy new ram?
[05:20] <khermans> raven, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:20] <Mischevious> jbritz22, hi
[05:21] <Toma-> dli__: erm. no?
[05:21] <jbritz22> mischevious the host thing worked
[05:21] <Mischevious> hmm, does anyone know how i set the default front for abiword, permanently ?????
[05:21] <dli__> Toma-, that's much better
[05:21] <Mischevious> jbritz22, glad to hear it man! :-D
[05:21] <Toma-> dli__: ive got it compiled, and know the sectors, but dont know how many badram= options i can pass
[05:21] <jbritz22> wanna help get my wireless going now? lol
[05:21] <wastrel> how do i associate a file extension with an application in gnome and/or openoffice?
[05:21] <khermans> Mischevious, http://www.crazy-wormhole.com/AlinaMeridon/AbiWord/abidocs/howto/howtonormaltemplate.html
[05:21] <Mischevious> jbritz22, i have never used wireless, and i'm not an expert man sorry... i wouldn't be much help if you ask outloud here they might be able to help also read this.
[05:22] <Mischevious> khermans, thank you so much
[05:22] <_jason> wastrel: can you be more specific?
[05:22] <Mischevious> !wireless
[05:22] <ubotu> I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[05:22] <khermans> Mischevious, thank google :-)
[05:22] <Mischevious> read that jbritz22
[05:22] <Crshman> any ppl use wpa on breezy in here?
[05:22] <khermans> Crshman, heh never!
[05:22] <dli__> Toma-, memtest86 has instructions
[05:22] <na7e> i've been up for like30 hours now...i kinda feel crazy and i think i'm half-hallucinating
[05:22] <khermans> Crshman, you need wpasupplicant thought to try
[05:22] <bimberi> !wpa
[05:22] <ubotu> wpa is, like, enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant".  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto for more details
[05:23] <khermans> na7e, i know the feeling
[05:23] <Crshman> i've tried to read the howto's but wow lol...wpa support is quite sketchy....
[05:23] <khermans> na7e, its like a drug
[05:23] <khermans> Crshman, why do you need it?
[05:23] <khermans> Crshman, not everyone has it on their wireless cards
[05:23] <wastrel> _jason:  i want to double-click on .pml files in nautilus and have them open in pymol.  similarly, i want to be able to link to pymol session .pse files from openoffice presentations.
[05:23] <Toxygene> Hey, I'm trying to load up the Ubuntu 5.10 live cd and when Xorg tries to start, it crashes with "(EE) No devices detected."
[05:23] <Crshman> my network is wpa
[05:23] <khermans> wastrel, right-click, open-with
[05:23] <khermans> wastrel, or go to properties and change it
[05:23] <na7e> Crshman, wpa support has seemed sketchy to me too
[05:23] <Toma-> dli__: yeh, i have all the memtest codes, but there were 10 errors, not just 1
[05:24] <_jason> wastrel: does what khermans suggested work?
[05:24] <tritium> Toxygene: have you checked your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for more detail?
[05:24] <na7e> khermans, but maybe i always hallucinate and feel weird.....i dunno
[05:24] <na7e> khermans, where am i? ;)
[05:24] <khermans> Crshman, well -- either go through the hassle of setting it up, or reconsider why you need WPA
[05:24] <dli__> Toma-, memtest86 gives you the format for badram
[05:24] <Toxygene> (WW) ATI:  PCI Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could not be detected!
[05:24] <Mischevious> khermans, worked perfectly, thank you
[05:24] <Toxygene> that's it
[05:24] <wastrel> khermans, _jason  it doesn't associate the file extension with the application, just allows me to right-click in the future and select pymol from a list.
[05:24] <Crshman> it's more secure than wep, and i don't need to remember wep keys
[05:24] <bimberi> !tell wastrel about defaultapp
[05:25] <Toma-> dli__: yeh. ive got that. but it produced 10 different good,bad values
[05:25] <tritium> Toxygene: was it auto-detected?  have you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[05:25] <khermans> wastrel, right-click properties -- then select the app asd the default
[05:25] <Toxygene> tritium: tried that too, with no luck
[05:25] <khermans> Crshman, wpa can be cracked too
[05:25] <Crshman> will wep passphrases work with networkmanager?
[05:25] <khermans> Crshman, yes
[05:25] <Crshman> i believe it, anything can be
[05:26] <Crshman> ok well i'll try that then thnx
[05:26] <wastrel> yes it's working in nautilus thanks - any ideas on getting ooffice to recognize it?
[05:26] <khermans> Crshman, but dude -- wpa is overkill for most people anyways -- what are you trying to accomplsih?
[05:26] <frank23> khermans: wpa is cracked? I didn't know that
[05:26] <michael117> I am having an issue with sound only working with XMMS and system sounds and no other programs such as VLC, totem, or even music from flash on websites. How could I fix this?
[05:26] <khermans> frank23, of course!
[05:26] <godman> can someone help me i CANT get MY wirless modem to work
[05:26] <dli__> Toma-, if you have read the memtest86 docs, you can supply them to the kernel command line
[05:26] <Crshman> khermans: i just don't like to remember a 128bit wep key lol
[05:26] <frank23> khermans: what about wpa2?
[05:26] <Crshman> khermans: but if passphrases work then i'll give it a go
[05:26] <khermans> frank23, maybe not ...
[05:26] <majd> is there a package to easily install gimpshop?
[05:27] <khermans> Crshman, i dont see why people use WEP at all -- i dont
[05:27] <tritium> frank23: yes, even wpa2
[05:27] <khermans> Crshman, any secure protocol should be protection enough
[05:27] <Crshman> khermans: i don't like to give away bandwidth
[05:27] <khermans> Crshman, then do a MAC address filter
[05:27] <frank23> tritium: so there is no secure wireless protocol right now?
[05:27] <tritium> MAC filtering is _easily_ spoofed
[05:27] <khermans> Crshman, WEP/WPA have nothing to do with blocking peopel from your network
[05:27] <Crshman> too many mac changes, i would have to update a lot
[05:28] <Crshman> i know, but it prevents them from connecting easily
[05:28] <tritium> frank23: brute force methods to crack wpa take some time
[05:28] <khermans> frank23, there is no 100% secure wired protocol either :-)
[05:28] <tritium> MAC addresses can be determined by simply sniffing packets
[05:28] <khermans> tritium, and the guy who knows how to do that wont know how to crack WPA?
[05:28] <frank23> khermans: well if you see all the wires in front of you.... the neighbours are not connected
[05:28] <IamEthos> is there something specific I have to do to recognize a partition as ext3 in linux?
[05:29] <tritium> khermans: hmm?
[05:29] <IamEthos> particularly a partition on a USB hard drive
[05:29] <Crshman> IamEthos, mount it?
[05:29] <khermans> all im saying is that if a guy knows how to spoof his MAC and sniff your wireless, he probably know more
[05:29] <bjm> IamEthos, cat /etc/fstab?
[05:29] <jayr168> http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=1683906264441f808a7ec03&p=screen
[05:29] <tritium> khermans: well, he at least knows how to "sudo apt-get install aircrack"
[05:29] <bjm> ah yes mount it first
[05:29] <jayr168> how can I get rid of that upper left screenshot?
[05:29] <Crshman> very true, but an average user can just click connect and connect to an unsecured wireless network, assuming that i cannot update and maintain mac address lists
[05:30] <jbritz22> hey how acn I disable "use 4k stacks" in my kernel
[05:30] <khermans> tritium, if someone really wants to get on your network, they will dude
[05:30] <khermans> Crshman, not with mac filtering!
[05:30] <wastrel> mmm working now happy
[05:30] <Crshman> khermans: again, i cannot update and maintain the mac list
[05:30] <khermans> Crshman, and set not to broadcast your SSID if you want too
[05:30] <tritium> khermans: not sure why you think we're arguing
[05:30] <IamEthos> Crshman: I'm a windows user, I know next to nothing about Linux
[05:30] <khermans> tritium, arguing?
[05:30] <Crshman> no one is arguing
[05:30] <wastrel> yeah i have my ssid not broadcasting, but you can still sniff it can't you?
[05:31] <IamEthos> I'm currently downloading Ubuntu live, but I'm having the problem in Knoppix
[05:31] <khermans> wastrel, sure
[05:31] <Mischevious> IamEthos, whats the problem
[05:31] <Crshman> IamEthos: in the command line thingy type man mount and read up
[05:31] <IamEthos> the partition shows up on my desktop
[05:31] <khermans> wastrel, even if you have WPA, i cam come to your house and get on -- guaranteed
[05:31] <Crshman> IamEthos: i forgot the specific command sorry
[05:31] <IcemanV9> jayr168: never use KDE, but maybe there is an option to turn it off??
[05:31] <IamEthos> and when I double click it, I think it mounts it...
[05:31] <IamEthos> but I've not sure
[05:31] <godman> boy i sure wish i new how to use my wirless on ubuntu
[05:31] <bjm> IamEthos, if it's a usb drive, it's probably vfat
[05:32] <tritium> godman: which wireless chipset?
[05:32] <IamEthos> it's actually an IDE hard drive inside a USB enclosure
[05:32] <IamEthos> and I partitioned the drive as ext3 in partition magic
[05:32] <Crshman> j/w is it easier to make the kind of installer that dapper uses (and gentoo for that matter) as opposed to the one fedora uses?
[05:32] <khermans> http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=369221&rl=1
[05:32] <Mischevious> IamEthos, whats the problem ..
[05:32] <bjm> IamEthos, and you want to make sure if it's really ext3?
[05:32] <wastrel> khermans:  i don't doubt it, i only have a 40bit key
[05:33] <Crshman> fedora = install off boot, dapper = install in live
[05:33] <khermans> wastrel, yeah in less than 10 minutes then
[05:33] <IamEthos> bjm: yeah. well, using it would be nice too
[05:33] <Mischevious> Crshman, dapper installs off a live-cd ?
[05:33] <IamEthos> Mischevious: I ran partition magic, created the partitions with no trouble
[05:33] <wastrel> that's why i use ssh
[05:33] <khermans> Mischevious, yes it will
[05:33] <Crshman> Mischevious: yes, i tried the latest
[05:33] <IamEthos> says everything went fine
[05:33] <bjm> IamEthos, you don't have to make it ext3 to use it. mount it rw and use it. i recommend vfat if you use that between win32 and linux
[05:33] <khermans> IamEthos, no need for Partition Magic, use gparted
[05:33] <Mischevious> cool
[05:33] <IamEthos> yet when I click on the drive in knoppix it still won't let me right to it
[05:33] <jayr168> hoe to turn that off?
[05:33] <Mischevious> khermans, he was on windows
[05:34] <tritium> wastrel: that still doesn't protect someone from stealing your bandwidth, though
[05:34] <godman> vendor Broadcom Corporation device BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g
[05:34] <IamEthos> !ext3
[05:34] <khermans> Mischevious, well i mean if you dont want to buy it, boot from Ubuntu and use gparted
[05:34] <ubotu> ext3 is, like, a filesystem that Linux can be installed on and can be read/wrote from Windows via http://www.fs-driver.org
[05:34] <Mischevious> khermans, or pirate it
[05:34] <khermans> Mischevious, thats the reason Linux doesnt spread -- people pirate all their apps...
[05:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> read/wrote from? o_0
[05:34] <tritium> godman: that will be supported in dapper.  Have you tried ndiswrapper in breezy??
[05:34] <wastrel> tritium:  well they'd probably just use my neighbor, who has a faster pipe and an open network :]
[05:34] <zF^2> If uname -a reports I'm using the 686 kernel why did apt-get dist-upgrade also download the 386 kernel?
[05:35] <tritium> wastrel: path of least resistance, yeah ;)
[05:35] <khermans> zF^2, because you have not purged the old copy
[05:35] <bjm> bye guys have to work
[05:35] <zF^2> khermans, that's right. Makes perfect sense, thanks.
[05:35] <khermans> zF^2, aptitude purge linux-386
[05:35] <Mischevious> khermans, true no need for open source when you get closed source for free
[05:35] <Mischevious> khermans, but i prefer open soruce
[05:35] <godman> i dont know where to get the drivers so i havent even bothered to download nidiswrapper.
[05:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubotu: forget ext3
[05:35] <ubotu> Kamping_Kaiser: i forgot ext3
[05:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubotu: ext3 is  a filesystem that Linux can be installed on and can be read/writen from Windows via http://www.fs-driver.org
[05:36] <zF> didn't realize I had this window open -.-
[05:36] <ubotu> okay, Kamping_Kaiser
[05:36] <khermans> Mischevious, yes -- microsoft loves thieves like that -- prevent them from switching to something free and better :-)
[05:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> !ext3
[05:36] <ubotu> hmm... ext3 is a filesystem that Linux can be installed on and can be read/writen from Windows via http://www.fs-driver.org
[05:36] <michael117> I am having an issue with sound only working with XMMS and system sounds and no other programs such as VLC, totem, or even music from flash on websites. How could I fix this?
[05:36] <godman> i think im running dapper
[05:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> should thtat have 2 ts in written? ;S
[05:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> damn.
[05:36] <Mischevious> khermans, yea
[05:36] <IcemanV9> lol, Kamping_Kaiser
[05:37] <tritium> godman: what does lsb_release -a tell you?
[05:37] <CarlFK> "location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?" - is that /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9 ?
[05:37] <IamEthos> okay
[05:37] <Crshman> here's a random one, anyone know how to get remaining time to work on a toshiba laptop? i can't find it anywhere
[05:37] <IamEthos> using the fs-driver.org software
[05:37] <IamEthos> I can access the ext3 partition in windows
[05:37] <godman> No LSB modules are available.
[05:37] <godman> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[05:37] <godman> Description:    Ubuntu (The Dapper Drake Release) Development Branch
[05:37] <godman> Release:        6.04
[05:37] <godman> Codename:       dapper
[05:37] <khermans> Crshman, you mean battery time left?
[05:37] <Crshman> yes sir
[05:37] <tritium> godman: don't paste, okay?
[05:38] <godman> sorry
[05:38] <khermans> khermans, you can't add the Gnome Panel Battery status indicator?
[05:38] <interferon> can anyone recommend a good linux program for creating imagemaps?
[05:38] <Mischevious> whats an image map
[05:38] <Mischevious> ?
[05:38] <jbritz22> why do I get a network is unreachable error when I ping?
[05:38] <tritium> CarlFK: you installed linux-headers-$(uname -r) ?
[05:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> !ext3
[05:38] <ubotu> somebody said ext3 was a filesystem that Linux can be installed on and can be read/written from Windows via http://www.fs-driver.org
[05:38] <Crshman> khermans: yup
[05:38] <khermans> interferon, emacs and knowledge of HTML ... hehe
[05:38] <CarlFK> tritium: yes
[05:38] <zF> This leads me to my second question on the linux kernel images. Do I need the base "linux-image-686" for the "linux-image-2.6.15-19-686" kernel to run correctly? Or can I purge the linux-image-686 file.
[05:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> better! (only took 4 tries)
[05:38] <interferon> Mischevious, an image used on the web where different regions trigger different links
[05:39] <Mischevious> interferon, oh i see, maybe inkscape ?
[05:39] <Mischevious> interferon, or the gimp
[05:39] <IamEthos> Mischevious: A blind users worst nightmare
[05:39] <tritium> zF: you want linux-686 to ensure that you have restricted modules, et
[05:39] <Mischevious> IamEthos, lol
[05:39] <khermans> zF, don't purge that
[05:39] <zF> khermans, okay - was just curious. Why is there a "base" image for the more specified?
[05:39] <khermans> zF, it is like a meta package
[05:39] <zF> Ah, okay.
[05:39] <IamEthos> image maps don't get the standards guys over in #web too excited (at least not in a good way...)
[05:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> you don't need to install linux-*86 - it's a meta package for the latest kernel
[05:40] <khermans> yeah, dont use image maps if you can help it
[05:40] <CarlFK> interferon: http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=409
[05:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> IIRC
[05:40] <tritium> CarlFK: there should be a /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build symlink to the dir you're looking for
[05:40] <zF> This leads me to my final question for the current moment. How do I view .ppt (Power Point) files with Ubuntu?
[05:40] <Crshman> what apps are there to archive dvd's in ubuntu?
[05:40] <khermans> zF, ooimpress my.ppt
[05:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> openoffice impress
[05:40] <khermans> Crshman, k3b
[05:40] <tritium> Kamping_Kaiser: not just the kernel, but also linux-restricted-modules.  He wants that too...
[05:41] <seekr> hi, all.
[05:41] <Crshman> khermans: cool thnx, wow...u knoe like everything haha
[05:41] <khermans> Crshman, or gnomebaker
[05:41] <IamEthos> can someone help me understand how a linux server using an ext3 partition for example can serve files to a Windows machine
[05:41] <zF> khermans, you've been very helpful. People like you make this channel worthwhile for asking questions. :]
[05:41] <IamEthos> I've never really understood that
[05:41] <mikebot> hi, i relaly need a symbol font that works in ubuntu, does anyone know where i canf ind one?
[05:41] <mikebot> 9things like the therefore sign, and all the logical operators, etc.)
[05:41] <khermans> zF, thanks dude :-)
[05:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> IamEthos: using samba
[05:42] <graft> mikebot: install msttcorefonts...
[05:42] <seekr> just burned a dvd with ubuntu and have booted in live mode for the first time - have a stupid newbie question
[05:42] <graft> or does that not have symbol?
[05:42] <mikebot> graft, apt-get install msttcorefonts?
[05:42] <IamEthos> samba?
[05:42] <Mischevious> seekr, go for it
[05:42] <mikebot> i don't know
[05:42] <khermans> seekr, ya?
[05:42] <graft> mikebot: yeah
[05:42] <graft> that has 'webdings'
[05:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> IamEthos: it's a linux implementation of the file sharing protocol used by Windows
[05:42] <seekr> i read somewhere that it's supposed to set root as the initial user or some such
[05:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> seekr: no root
[05:43] <Mischevious> seekr, no it doesn't
[05:43] <mikebot> graft, thanks
[05:43] <seekr> i'd like to mount some existing filesystems, and need to be root
[05:43] <Mischevious> ubotu: tell seekr about root
[05:43] <Mischevious> seekr, use sudo.
[05:43] <seekr> oh - yeah something about sudo
[05:43] <khermans> seekr, sudo -i
[05:43] <mikebot> does it have the turnstyle and stuff?
[05:43] <seekr> right - is there a root passwd?
[05:43] <khermans> seekr, no
[05:43] <Mischevious> seekr, your pass = root pass
[05:43] <tritium> seekr: read the URL from ubotu
[05:43] <Mischevious> seekr, use sudo.
[05:43] <graft> turnstyle?
[05:43] <tritium> no, there is no root password unless you set it
[05:43] <seekr> which URL, tritium?
[05:44] <mikebot> looks like '|-' means proves that
[05:44] <Mischevious> tritium, true, but his user pass is sort of the root pass since sudo ..
[05:44] <tritium> !root
[05:44] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:44] <tritium> seekr: ^
[05:44] <tritium> Mischevious: I know what you mean
[05:44] <seekr> i assume i can use "passwd" to set a root passwd using sudo and then log in as root
[05:44] <Mischevious> oh well i tried to help :-(
[05:44] <Mischevious> sorry
[05:44] <khermans> seekr, yeah bot not recommended
[05:44] <tritium> Mischevious: you did
[05:44] <seekr> thanks, utotu.  will do.
[05:44] <graft> mikebot: oh... you want math symbols orsomething?
[05:44] <Mischevious> yay :-D
[05:44] <jbritz33> i missed it
[05:44] <khermans> seekr, just use sudo -i when you need it
[05:44] <mikebot> yes
[05:44] <graft> do you know tex?
[05:44] <mikebot> graft, yes
[05:45] <mikebot> graft, tex?
[05:45] <mikebot> no
[05:45] <graft> that's really probably the way to go
[05:45] <Mischevious> i love ubuntu
[05:45] <graft> LaTeX
[05:45] <jbritz33> khermans can you think of a solution to my prob
[05:45] <tritium> mikebot: even better, LaTeX :)
[05:45] <Mischevious> i wonder why i didn't use it years ago.
[05:45] <mikebot> what is LaTeX?
[05:45] <khermans> jbritz22, what is it?
[05:45] <Mischevious> !latex
[05:45] <ubotu> Mischevious: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:45] <Mischevious> hmm somone should add that
[05:45] <_playmun> How do I make Ubuntu not lock when I close my laptop screen?
[05:45] <tritium> mikebot: http://www.latex-project.org
[05:45] <Fujitsu> Mischevious, perhaps because it's only been around less than two years? :P
[05:45] <bimberi> Mischevious: it's only been around since October '04 :)
[05:45] <mikebot> thanks
[05:45] <graft> um... it's a layout/editing software
[05:45] <atoponce> question
[05:45] <IcemanV9> Mischevious: it wasn't there years ago :)
[05:45] <Mischevious> bimberi, oh... well you know.
[05:45] <seekr> wow - there's just too much traffic in this channel (newish to irc also) - both good and not so good, i guess.
[05:45] <bimberi> Mischevious: i do :)
[05:45] <Mischevious> bimberi, linux in gen, but especially ubuntu
[05:46] <mikebot> ..i just want a font
[05:46] <jbritz33> khermans I can find like 3 wireless access points,routers whatever you wanna call them, but whenever I select one ESSID, it says network unreachable whenever I try to ping
[05:46] <graft> in ubuntu you can do apt-get install tetex
[05:46] <atoponce> is it possible to implement RAID on an external drive plugged in via usb after ubuntu is already installed?
[05:46] <tritium> mikebot: the de-facto standard for scientific publishing (superb mathematics typesetting), used by many universities for dissertations
[05:46] <khermans> jbritz22, are these protected networks
[05:46] <mikebot> tritium, ah, okay, how do i install it, and can i stop this msttcorefonts thing?
[05:46] <jbritz33> no, and if they are, i have the right wep keys in
[05:46] <tritium> mikebot: there is a learning curve, however
[05:46] <graft> mikebot: yeah, that's not going to have math symbols
[05:47] <atoponce> any ideas?
[05:47] <khermans> jbritz22, type -> ifconfig eth1 or whatever to see your IP
[05:47] <graft> the math stuff in latex is reasonably simple... and there's WYSIWYG latex editors
[05:47] <khermans> jbritz22, it might be possible that the DHCP server is not giving you an IP
[05:47] <Mischevious> !abiword
[05:47] <ubotu> it has been said that abiword is a Gnome/GTK based word processor for more information goto: http://www.abisource.com/information/about/
[05:47] <graft> install um... lyx
[05:47] <tritium> mikebot: read the Not So Short Introduction to LaTeX2e, and if you're up for it, give it a try.
[05:47] <Mischevious> how do i add a fact to ubotu ?
[05:47] <jbritz33> ifconfig?
[05:47] <jbritz33> ok
[05:47] <jbritz33> ill try it out
[05:48] <Eleaf> Is there any way to tunnel a ftp request through say port 23 instead of 21 ?
[05:48] <mikebot> i gotta turn in an exam tomorrow, don't relaly have time to read that
[05:48] <khermans> jbritz22, interface configuration
[05:48] <bimberi> ubotu tell Mischevious about yourself
[05:48] <bobcat> hello everyone...  has anyone run into issues with qtparted.  i just bought this labtop loaded with Windows, and i am trying to resize the NTFS partition, and it spits out this message that - opening dev/sda2 as NTFS failed operation not supported????
[05:48] <mikebot> can i just import symbols into openoffice?
[05:48] <graft> mikebot: install lyx and see if that works
[05:48] <mikebot> or do i have to write the whole thign in that
[05:48] <khermans> Eleaf, yes
[05:48] <mikebot> lyx?
[05:48] <seekr> uhhhh - this is strange - can't get a login prompt - if i try to ^d out, i just get another prompt - guess i need to rtfm
[05:48] <mikebot> apt-get install lyx?
[05:48] <graft> yeah, it's a latex-based wysyiwyg editor
[05:48] <tritium> mikebot: I don't advise trying to learn LaTeX in one night.
[05:48] <Eleaf> khermans, how?  I'm needing for this to happen
[05:48] <_playmun> I close laptop, screen locks when I open it... I loke the security, how do I turn it off?
[05:48] <mikebot> tritium, i don't want to learn it, i just need symbols
[05:49] <mikebot> a font would be easier
[05:49] <khermans> Eleaf, is the server running on port 23?
[05:49] <tritium> mikebot: you can't just use it's symbols in other apps
[05:49] <Eleaf> khermans, huh?
[05:49] <khermans> _playmun, lid.sh
[05:49] <Eleaf> khermans, well.  port 23 is open if that's what you mean.
[05:49] <mikebot> what is lyx, and how can i install latex?
[05:49] <tritium> mikebot: do you understand that you can't use it's symbols in other apps?
[05:49] <khermans> Eleaf, you need to find the ftp option to connect on port 23
[05:49] <graft> mikebot: the easiest thing to do is probably steal fonts from your windows installation, if you're willing to do that...
[05:49] <jbritz33> khermans I get link encap, inet addre, inet 6 addre etc etc
[05:49] <Eleaf> khermans, in the ftp server?
[05:49] <khermans> jbritz22, so no IP?
[05:49] <jbritz33> wait
[05:50] <jbritz33> i think
[05:50] <jbritz33> its working
[05:50] <khermans> Eleaf, on the client
[05:50] <mikebot> tritium, yes
[05:50] <Eleaf> khermans, ok, do I need to configure it on the server?
[05:50] <Mischevious> ubotu latex is LaTeX is a document preparation system for high-quality typesetting. See http://www.latex-project.org/ for more info
[05:50] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, Mischevious
[05:50] <tritium> mikebot: if you want to learn latex, ask me sometime when you have more than one night to learn and hand in an exam
[05:50] <khermans> Eleaf, wait -- you want the client to connect on 23 or the server to listen on 23?
[05:50] <mikebot> tritium, okay
[05:50] <Eleaf> khermans, both I suppose
[05:50] <mikebot> but i stil need a solution for tonight
[05:50] <jbritz33> SWEEET
[05:50] <tritium> nice work, mikebot
[05:50] <Eleaf> khermans, don't you need both using the same port?
[05:50] <jbritz33> ITS WORKING HALLEJUAH
[05:50] <jbritz33> thank you everyone
[05:50] <tritium> uh, Mischevious, rather
[05:50] <jbritz33> so much
[05:50] <khermans> Eleaf, go to your FTP server's config file and tell it port 23
[05:50] <jbritz33> *hugs*
[05:50] <Mischevious> ubotu <latex> <is LaTeX is a document preparation system for high-quality typesetting.  Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, GigaClon
[05:51] <tritium> Mischevious: try in a private query with ubotu if you don't mind
[05:51] <_playmun> khermans; what should i do to lid.sh?
[05:51] <khermans> _playmun, /etc/acpi/lid.sh
[05:51] <Mischevious> tritium, okay sorry
[05:51] <seekr> tnx for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo url, ubotu - i think that page has all i need
[05:51] <Eleaf> khermans, ok did that.  I'm using the python module ftplib to connect to the ftp server.
[05:51] <mikebot> is there a terminal command for installing latex?
[05:51] <khermans> get rid of the line that locks it, i forget the line
[05:52] <atoponce> i would love to implement raid if anyone has any ideas
[05:52] <_playmun> khermans; how should i edit it though?
[05:52] <graft> mikebot: apt-get install tetex-base
[05:52] <tritium> no worries, Mischevious :)
[05:52] <seekr> gotta run - thanks much, all
[05:52] <khermans> _playmun, or just do this -> sudo mv lid.sh lid.sh.orig
[05:52] <neurosis_> when ubuntu goes through the hosts.allow and hosts.deny file, does it hit the allow first and then filter to the deny?
[05:52] <Eleaf> I think deny first then allow
[05:52] <_playmun> so I just delete the file to a safe backup?
[05:52] <bimberi> Mischevious: can i /msg you (regarding ubotu)?
[05:52] <neurosis_> hrm
[05:52] <khermans> Eleaf, then check the API for how to specify port 23 on the connection, it is probably the second argument
[05:52] <mikebot> graft, thanks, is that latex?
[05:53] <Mischevious> bimberi, okay
[05:53] <Eleaf> mmk, thanks khermans
[05:53] <graft> yeah... it's a latex implementation
[05:53] <neurosis_> so how do you wrap say sshd?
[05:53] <graft> there's more than one version of latex out there, at this point
[05:53] <mikebot> ah
[05:53] <tritium> mikebot: if you still decide to install latex, I recommend tetex-base, tetex-extra, and tetex-doc, and then you can use texdoctk to read documentation.  Again, prepare for a learning curve.
[05:53] <mikebot> tritium, okay, thanks
[05:53] <babo> I can't believe that it's this difficult to install skype on amd64.  So basically I've installed a 32bit chroot, installed the skype .deb and the skype hijacker and now I'm getting .... _X11TransSocketINETConnect() can't get address for localhost:6000: Name or service not known
[05:53] <babo>    ... help ...
[05:53] <graft> there's good tutorials on the math stuff on the net
[05:53] <graft> stick with the basics and it's reasonably simple...
[05:54] <_jason> tritium, mikebot: you may need tetex-bin as well.  i remember in hoary that was a seperate package
[05:54] <tritium> graft: texdoctk rocks, too
[05:54] <graft> and you can write literally any equation you want
[05:54] <pozdiy> any instructions on acroread installation?
[05:54] <tritium> _jason: it'll get pulled in as a dependency, but you're right :)
[05:54] <khermans> babo, have you heard of Gizmo ?
[05:54] <graft> tetex-base should take care of all that stuff
[05:54] <khermans> pozdiy, aptitude install acroread
[05:54] <Madpilot> pozdiy, enable Multiverse, then just install the acroread package
[05:54] <khermans> i think'
[05:54] <coreyfro> hey all... quick question, what's the diff between the CD and DVD images?  I don't see any information on the download page and nothing in the install guides
[05:54] <tritium> graft: except for -extra and -doc
[05:54] <Madpilot> !info acroread
[05:54] <ubotu> acroread: (Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer), section multiverse/text, is optional. Version: 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 22263 kB, Installed size: 53192 kB
[05:55] <mikebot> _jason, okay, thanks
[05:55] <rob138> hi, can someone tell me how to change my default sound driver my ubuntu uses from the intel based one to the soundblaster one?
[05:55] <graft> yeah, except for those, you're right
[05:55] <coreyfro> !info dvd
[05:55] <babo> kermans: I've already tried wengo phone ... they seem to be almost as incompetent as skype. They don't seem to be able to answer the simplest of questions about their own product ... :-(
[05:55] <khermans> Madpilot, why didnt acroread get upgraded in Dapper?
[05:55] <pozdiy> Madpilot, multiverse...
[05:55] <Mischevious> babo, try gizmo it's the best
[05:55] <pozdiy> khermanse, do not see that package
[05:55] <graft> rob138: what's wrong with your current sound driver?
[05:55] <khermans> Madpilot, latest version has CUPS support -- so I installed it manually
[05:55] <Madpilot> khermans, hasn't it? I don't run Dapper yet
[05:55] <Madpilot> pozdiy, the Multiverse repository
[05:55] <khermans> babo, yeah Gizmo way better than Skype
[05:55] <IamEthos> okay, so I created the partition, the filesystem is ext3
[05:56] <Madpilot> !tell pozdiy about multiverse
[05:56] <babo> Mischevious: thanks, but this is the very last part of the skype install ... I'd like to finish it if possible
[05:56] <khermans> Madpilot, nope!  still same version!
[05:56] <IamEthos> is there anything else I have to do to make the hard drive writable?
[05:56] <nanang> how setting environment
[05:56] <khermans> Madpilot, which sucks because 7.0.1 uses lpr instead of CUPS!!!
[05:56] <babo> Mischevious: my dad's on skype ...
[05:56] <Madpilot> khermans, file a bug report @ launchpad then
[05:56] <IamEthos> how do I mount a hard drive?
[05:56] <khermans> Madpilot, i did :-)
[05:56] <Madpilot> !tell IamEthos about mount
[05:56] <pozdiy> Madpilot, tnx
[05:56] <rob138> graft, my speakers are plugged into the soundblaster soundcard, not the motherboard's sound plugs
[05:56] <coreyfro> Please, anyone, what's special about the DVD iso's.
[05:56] <tritium> rob138: did you disable onboard sound in the bios?
[05:57] <rob138> tritium, no i didn't... would that fix it?
[05:57] <tritium> rob138: often it does
[05:57] <graft> if you have kernel module autoloading, that should do it
[05:57] <nanang> in .bash_profile
[05:57] <lakcaj> Hey - I ran nmap for someone to see if their ftp server was visible and it brought down my internet connection, but not IRC.  I can't ping google or open any pages with firefox.  Anyone experience this before?
[05:57] <Madpilot> coreyfro, I think the DVD ISOs have a whole pile more packages available
[05:57] <corvax> will dapper recognize mand set up my linksys wpc54g with broadcom chipset?
[05:58] <khermans> lakcaj, are you on a university network?
[05:58] <corvax> or will i have to st up ndiswrappr
[05:58] <LeeJunFan> What do I run to get xorg.conf setup to install defaults? ie, not dpkg-reconfigure with all the questions.
[05:58] <corvax> like i did in breezy
[05:58] <lakcaj> khermans, nope, just dsl at home
[05:58] <GigaClon> coreyfro, I think the DVD has both LiveCD and install CD capablities
[05:58] <khermans> LeeJunFan, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:58] <coreyfro> Madpilot, and since i'd probably be updating everything anyway, the point of getting the DVD is slim? (sorry, ubuntu noob)
[05:58] <graft> lakcaj: can you ssh someplace?
[05:58] <coreyfro> GigaClon ahhhhh... now that would be cool
[05:58] <Eleaf> thanks khermans
[05:58] <khermans> lol
[05:58] <lakcaj> graft, give me a someplace and I'll try :)
[05:58] <IcemanV9> corvax: test it with dapper livecd
[05:59] <graft> um... try fas.harvard.edu
[05:59] <graft> see if you get a prompt
[05:59] <corvax> nah
[05:59] <Madpilot> coreyfro, to be honest, I'm not sure, I've never bothered looking into the DVD ISOs
[05:59] <corvax> ill just go for it
[05:59] <corvax> lol
[05:59] <graft> or better, can you do DNS lookups?
[05:59] <coreyfro> can anyone confirm for me that the DVD is also a live CD?
[05:59] <khermans> lakcaj, maybe your ISP bnlocked you?
[05:59] <khermans> lakcaj, tyep -> ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:59] <IcemanV9> corvax: well, so be it. :)
[05:59] <corvax> or maybe ill just dist-upgrade?
[05:59] <graft> if IRC is working, IP has to be working
[06:00] <khermans> graft, yeah lol
[06:00] <IcemanV9> corvax: as long as you backup important docs & stuff
[06:00] <corvax> done already
[06:00] <lakcaj> khermans, the ping worked fine, but I'm not getting an ssh prompt (graft)
[06:00] <IcemanV9> :)
[06:00] <khermans> corvax, id try a fresh install
[06:00] <graft> lakcaj: can you do like, host google.com?
[06:00] <instabin> how do i install glx
[06:00] <corvax>  /home is all i really needed
[06:00] <khermans> lakcaj, huh?
[06:00] <lakcaj> google.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:01] <corvax> im gonna try now
[06:01] <khermans> instabin, nvidia?
[06:01] <corvax> bb
[06:01] <instabin> yes
[06:01] <instabin> 6800 gt
[06:01] <graft> okay... um... so some services are not working, though IP in general seems to work...
[06:01] <khermans> instabin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:01] <graft> what exactly were you nmapping?
[06:01] <instabin> no i want the glx desktop
[06:01] <khermans> graft, what services?
[06:01] <instabin> like in kororaa
[06:01] <khermans> instabin, you mean XGL!
[06:01] <Mischevious> !latex
[06:01] <ubotu> methinks latex is a document preparation system for high-quality typesetting. See http://www.latex-project.org/ for more info.
[06:02] <instabin> yes
[06:02] <instabin> xgl
[06:02] <tritium> instabin: please keep things on one line
[06:02] <graft> well she says web-browsing isn't working
[06:02] <khermans> instabin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto
[06:02] <graft> or maybe there's just no route to google...
[06:02] <instabin> thats for dapper i have breezy
[06:02] <tritium> instabin: it doesn't work on breezy
[06:03] <Crshman> so does anyone know how to get the battery time remaining to work on a toshiba laptop?
[06:03] <khermans> graft, you can resolve hosts to ips?
[06:03] <graft> lakcaj: try some random websites...
[06:03] <tritium> Crshman: is toshiba_acpi module loaded?
[06:03] <graft> khermans: not my problem, lakcaj's
[06:04] <Crshman> to check? modprobe?
[06:04] <instabin> Tritium: thaught you could install any thing for linux on any distro
[06:04] <babo> _X11TransSocketINETConnect() can't get address for localhost:6000: Name or service not known
[06:04] <babo>  ... can anyone help me with this error ... it seems that I must transfer the X11 server to my chroot environment. I've copied /tmp into /var/chroot/ but no luck I'm afraid ???
[06:04] <khermans> Crshman, you need a BIOS update
[06:04] <Crshman> hwo do i check if it is loaded?
[06:04] <Crshman> i already updated to latest
[06:04] <khermans> Crshman, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75672.html
[06:04] <khermans> Crshman, is this a laptop?
[06:04] <tritium> instabin: Xgl requires newer version of software than what exists in breezy
[06:05] <Crshman> khermans: yup
[06:05] <khermans> Crshman, what model?
[06:05] <Lunari> Hello
[06:05] <instabin> cant i just update the software?
[06:05] <tritium> Crshman: lsmod | grep acpi
[06:05] <Crshman> khermans: A35-S159
[06:05] <tritium> Crshman: also, look for acpi_sbs
[06:05] <khermans> Crshman, yeah dont know if the BIOS is the latest -- otherwise im no help
[06:05] <Crshman> i have loaded sony_acpi, pcc_acpi, dev_acpi, i2c_acpi_ec
[06:05] <Lunari> I was setting up a dual boot system and installed windows after linux, is there an easy way to reinstall grub?
[06:06] <khermans> Lunari, aptitude reinstall grub
[06:06] <Mischevious> !gizmo
[06:06] <ubotu> rumour has it, gizmo is a voip client, unlike skype it is open source and works with alsa for more info http://www.gizmoproject.com/
[06:06] <tritium> Crshman: no toshiba_acpi?  You need to modprobe it, and add it to your /etc/modules
[06:06] <khermans> Lunari, oh you mean you cant get into Ubuntu
[06:06] <Lunari> yeah
[06:06] <Lunari> lol
[06:06] <Crshman> ok
[06:06] <Mischevious> tritium, is that fact okay.
[06:06] <khermans> Lunari, get the Ubuntu cd
[06:06] <dli__> Lunari, boot ubuntu livecd, run grub , and setup
[06:06] <tritium> Mischevious: looks fine :)
[06:06] <khermans> Lunari, boot it, then type rescue
[06:06] <slamet> hai
[06:06] <Mischevious> tritium, :-D
[06:06] <instabin> What does XGL depend on ?
[06:06] <Lunari> boot the install cd, go to rescue
[06:06] <Lunari> :)
[06:07] <Lunari> then what
[06:07] <Lunari> lol
[06:07] <Crshman> tritium: comes back with "no such device"
[06:07] <slamet> i see
[06:07] <khermans> Lunari, it should drop you in a root shell
[06:07] <tritium> instabin: newer version of xorg
[06:07] <Lunari> okay :)
[06:07] <Random_Transit> ooh! thanks for the info about gizmo...
[06:07] <khermans> Lunari, then type -> grub-install /dev/hda
[06:07] <instabin> Tritium can i just install a new xorg?
[06:07] <Mischevious> thanks bimberi
[06:07] <Random_Transit> i never knew about it
[06:07] <tritium> instabin: no, I've already told you, it won't work on breezy
[06:07] <neurosis_> oh my god im a twit, im stuck in a man page!!!! there is no ctrl-c?
[06:07] <Lunari> since i am using sata would it be /dev/sda?
[06:07] <bimberi> Mischevious: and look, first customer ^^^^
[06:07] <khermans> Lunari, probably
[06:07] <crimsun> neurosis_: 'q'
[06:07] <Lunari> okay, cool, just making sure :)
[06:07] <khermans> Lunari, whatever your boot device was
[06:07] <Mischevious> bimberi, :-D
[06:07] <tritium> Crshman: really?  hmm...
[06:08] <neurosis_> i need to quit switching os's
[06:08] <neurosis_> this is going to kill me
[06:08] <khermans> hey, can i get ops!?!? lol
[06:08] <mikebot> does anyone know of a font with the lgoical operators and mathematical symbols?
[06:08] <Crshman> tritium: just installed some updates, lets see if it'll come up on restart
[06:08] <khermans> mikebot, i dont use any fonts per se, but i use oomath
[06:08] <mikebot> khermans, what's oomath?
[06:08] <tritium> Crshman: you're on breezy, or dapper?
[06:08] <dli__> mikebot, latex fonts
[06:08] <graft> heh... mikebot give up on latex?
[06:08] <khermans> mikebot, the openoffice math suite
[06:08] <Crshman> tritium: breezy
[06:08] <Lunari> is there anymore setup after that? or is that all that I have to do?
[06:09] <tritium> Crshman: okay
[06:09] <mikebot> graft, haven't given up, just from what you guys have said, doesn't seem like i'lll be able to do it toninight
[06:09] <intelikey> khermans  yes you can get opps,   you can get them to kick you !
[06:09] <khermans> mikebot, you can do things like x_2 which means X sub 2
[06:09] <graft> i think you'd be able to do it tonight if you're reasonably savvy
[06:09] <Lunari> brb
[06:09] <khermans> intelikey, hey but im a helpful guy and I love Ubuntu since Warty :-)
[06:09] <intelikey> :)
[06:09] <Madpilot> khermans, you get ops around here by not asking for it :P
[06:10] <babo> Anyone have any idea how I drag my X server into chroot ... _X11TransSocketINETConnect() can't get address for localhost:6000: Name or service not known
[06:10] <Mischevious> lol i messed up my fact again.
[06:10] <Mischevious> :\
[06:10] <khermans> Madpilot, lol -- i dont care either way, just thought id make a fool of myself :-)
[06:10] <mikebot> khermans, i need symbols i don't think are offered in this program, thanks though
[06:10] <khermans> mikebot, such as?
[06:11] <Xgates> hey guys just thought I'd come in and have a chuckle, I mean I'm running the Vmware Browser Appliance Vmware Ubuntu image
[06:11] <Xgates> ----> http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2qn.png
[06:11] <mikebot> khermans, quantified logic operators
[06:11] <khermans> mikebot, yes it has them
[06:11] <mikebot> khermans, and meta logic operators like the turnstyle (might be turnstile)
[06:11] <mikebot> really?
[06:11] <Xgates> this thing runs great, and this is so funny in full screen mode, I swear I feel like I have this thing installed to the hdd, runs just as good
[06:11] <Xgates> ;p
[06:11] <tritium> mikebot: turnstyle?
[06:11] <khermans> mikebot, i used oomath for my entire Computational Theory course
[06:12] <mikebot> tritium, means x proves that b, looks like |-
[06:12] <khermans> mikebot, has things like union, intersect, implies etc
[06:12] <tritium> khermans: shame on you for not using LaTeX!
[06:12] <LordMelkor> how can I transfer large files between ubuntu and another computer using win2000 over a local network
[06:12] <khermans> tritium, im a n00b, when i get to PhD then latex!
[06:12] <Crshman> the ONLY distro that had time work was suse, and i didn't like that distro
[06:12] <khermans> LordMelkor, samba
[06:12] <mikebot> i see the conditional, but i'm not seeing the others
[06:12] <khermans> mikebot, tell me a symbol ?
[06:13] <mikebot> the universal quantifier
[06:13] <AngryElf> how do you include username and password in a mount command????....for smbfs
[06:13] <khermans> mikebot, you have to type them and watch, i used oowriter and type ATL+i+o+f
[06:13] <tritium> khermans: it's the only way to go ;)
[06:13] <mikebot> upside down capiral A
[06:13] <khermans> mikebot, then you can type something like "for all"
[06:14] <dli__> how do I make evdev auto load?
[06:14] <tritium> that would be redundant, khermans
[06:14] <mikebot> i'm sorry? how do i get the quantifier?
[06:14] <bimberi> AngryElf: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[06:14] <khermans> AngryElf, -o username=foo,password=foo
[06:14] <khermans> tritium, its like writing english
[06:15] <khermans> mikebot, are you in oowriter ?
[06:15] <mikebot> no math
[06:15] <mikebot> one moment
[06:15] <dli__> how do I configure which modules to auto load? I don't want pcmcia and want evdev
[06:15] <khermans> mikebot, it has been suggested that you dont learn oomath, since latex is way better ;-)
[06:15] <tritium> khermans: I'm well aware, but you don't use the symbol and then the name in the same breath
[06:15] <graft> mikebot: latex really seems like your best bet...
[06:15] <mikebot> i'll learn both
[06:15] <mikebot> but tonight i have zero time
[06:15] <AngryElf> khermans, thanx
[06:15] <khermans> tritium, no! to get the sybmol thats what you type!
[06:15] <mikebot> i'm in writer
[06:15] <khermans> mikebot, now type ATL+i+o+f
[06:16] <khermans> in succession
[06:16] <khermans> this will bring up the oomath insertion
[06:16] <mikebot> okay, yes, i see that
[06:17] <mikebot> now for the quantifier?
[06:17] <tritium> !enter
[06:17] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[06:17] <mikebot> was that directed toward me?
[06:17] <khermans> now type something like -> for all
[06:18] <jodanlime> I've got an epson printer, and I was wondering if there was a way to get my ink levels to come up when I print, like on windose, that was handy
[06:18] <mikebot> it just writes "for all" in italics on my document
[06:18] <Crshman> automatix is nice =)
[06:18] <mikebot> ahmed, it's "forall" with no space
[06:18] <wastrel> jodanlime:  there's some command line tools but they've never worked for me.
[06:18] <khermans> are you in the oomath imsertion place?
[06:18] <tritium> jodanlime: apt-cache search epson.  There are a few util syou can try.
[06:18] <khermans> he saorry
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> Ick.
[06:18] <mikebot> ahmed, thank you
[06:18] <khermans> mikebot, im a bit rusty on my syntax :-)
[06:18] <mikebot> what about the existential quantifier?
[06:19] <mikebot> hhe
[06:19] <wahyoe> halo
[06:19] <mikebot> that's quite alright
[06:19] <tritium> Crshman: easyubuntu is preferred
[06:19] <thechitowncubs> Hello
[06:19] <tritium> welcome back, thechitowncubs
[06:19] <khermans> mikebot, exists ?
[06:19] <thechitowncubs> I'm having some problems setting up my new server
[06:20] <mikebot> beautiful, thanks
[06:20] <Crshman> tritium: i know, but automatix has more packages haha
[06:20] <graft> thechitowncubs: err, what sort of server?
[06:20] <mikebot> (iw as trying things like thereisatleastone y...haha)
[06:20] <thechitowncubs> I can't get my permissions set up properly
[06:20] <wahyoe> hai bego
[06:20] <khermans> mikebot, its the lazy man's latex :-)
[06:20] <thechitowncubs> I chown it like this: chown -R root:users /mnt/bighd
[06:20] <thechitowncubs> and it doesn't seem to take effect
[06:20] <thechitowncubs> ls -l reports it still belongs to root:root
[06:21] <babo> Anyone have any idea how I drag my X server into chroot ... _X11TransSocketINETConnect() can't get address for localhost:6000: Name or service not known   ...    anyone have any ideas .?
[06:21] <tritium> Crshman: well, please don't recommend it here, okay?  It can mess up your system.
[06:21] <mikebot> khermans, hehe thank you
[06:21] <Fracture> tritium, Crshman : it messed up my system, and I had to reinstall.
[06:21] <khermans> tritium, what if there was aversion that followed the wiki similar to Automatix?
[06:22] <graft> thechitowncubs: wth are you trying to do? change permissions on a mounted drive?
[06:22] <khermans> but didnt b0rk yer systm
[06:22] <intelikey> thechitowncubs sudo
[06:22] <Fracture> tritium, Crshman : I have since managed to install everything that I needed by reading the ubuntu wiki and some other google searchs
[06:22] <dli__> which xterm option to use larger fonts? xterm -fs has no effect :(
[06:22] <Crshman> the wiki is excelent
[06:22] <graft> why are you still using xterm?
[06:22] <khermans> dli__, hrmm in gnome-terminal i type CTRL+
[06:22] <thechitowncubs> graft well i kind of have an awkward setup... i'm going to draw a pic for ya one sed
[06:22] <thechitowncubs> c
[06:22] <graft> it's the 21st century, dli__!
[06:22] <tritium> khermans: aversion?
[06:23] <tritium> Fracture: that
[06:23] <tritium> 's too bad
[06:23] <dli__> graft, khermans but the computer is 20th century
[06:23] <khermans> tritium,'s/aversion/ a version/
[06:23] <graft> dli__: blech... run gnome-terminal or konsole, jesus
[06:23] <khermans> dli__, lol
[06:23] <Fracture> tritium: yeah it is, it would be really good if it worked in a safe way
[06:23] <tritium> khermans: automatix is the problem.  We don't want anything similar to it on the wiki.
[06:24] <tritium> !automatix
[06:24] <ubotu> automatix is, like, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[06:24] <khermans> tritium, no i mean what if there were something like it that followed what the wiki recommended?
[06:24] <Fracture> tritium: someone really needs to run a deb reporitory that has all of restricted formats
[06:24] <ryoku> i need a little help with installing some software
[06:24] <Jay_R> nick/ gnu.style
[06:24] <tritium> khermans: there is -- easyubuntu
[06:24] <wastrel> l8r
[06:24] <ryoku> i get a message " tag INPUT: input source `/usr/lib/qt3/include/' does not exist"
[06:24] <khermans> tritium, dont you need to run the command line to get it?
[06:24] <tritium> Fracture: there are legal issues with that
[06:25] <Fracture> tritium: how does automatix get around those them ?
[06:25] <tritium> khermans: I believe so.  I've not used it.
[06:25] <khermans> tritium, thats a definite barrier to entry
[06:25] <tritium> Fracture: I haven't checked.
[06:25] <Fracture> tritium: ok
[06:25] <cwbutcher> How do I get my disks to stay mounted after a reboot?
[06:25] <graft> Fracture: restricted formats?
[06:25] <khermans> tritium, im thinking something that you can download and run
[06:25] <bimberi> Fracture: by hoping that noone will care
[06:25] <gnu_style> KDE or GNOME?
[06:25] <khermans> with a browser, just save it to your desktop and go
[06:25] <graft> KDE!
[06:25] <Fracture> bimberi: yeah..
[06:26] <khermans> tritium, i know the frustration of new users
[06:26] <tritium> !easyubuntu
[06:26] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[06:26] <Fracture> graft: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:26] <ryoku> cwbutcher: add the information to /etc/fstab
[06:26] <thechitowncubs> alright anyone that is willing to help me, this image will help: http://www.thechitowncubs.com/downloads/serversetup.jpg
[06:26] <Fracture> easyubuntu didn't work for me
[06:27] <khermans> tritium, i already know about it
[06:27] <mikebot> khermans, do you know if there is a therefore symbol?
[06:27] <khermans> mikebot, yup
[06:27] <thechitowncubs> alright
[06:27] <thechitowncubs> I'm not sure what I should ask
[06:27] <graft> so... thechitowncubs, what are you trying to achieve?
[06:28] <thechitowncubs> but... I'm having problems setting up the permissions
[06:28] <thechitowncubs> for example, when i change the permissions of the mounted smbfs on the ubuntu-server they don't change
[06:28] <cwbutcher> thanks ryku
[06:28] <Ethos_> okay
[06:28] <Ethos_> so wtf
[06:28] <halflife28> anyone experienced with php around here?
[06:28] <thechitowncubs> do i have to change it on the family computer for the samba share that is mounted from it to the ubuntu-server in order to allow it?
[06:28] <Ethos_> I'm using ubuntu live right now
[06:28] <Ethos_> and I can't write to my ext3 partition
[06:29] <khermans> mikebot, i think you might have to insert it manually if i remeber correctly
[06:29] <ryoku> what package will install stuff to /usr/lib/qt3/include
[06:29] <ryoku> i don't have this folder
[06:29] <halflife28> anyone might kno what this means?: Fatal error: mime_magic could not be initialized, magic file is not available in /opt/lampp/htdocs/wiki/includes/MimeMagic.php on line 504
[06:29] <mikebot> khermans, how do i do that?
[06:29] <Ethos_> on the permissions tab of the properties page for that partition, it says that the owner may read, write and execute, but that group and others may only read and execute
[06:30] <AngryElf> how come I cannot change the permissions on the folder of a smbfs mount?
[06:30] <Ethos_> it also says that I am not the owner
[06:30] <Ethos_> wtf?
[06:30] <Ethos_> who is then/
[06:30] <fyrestrtr> AngryElf: what permissions did you mount it with?
[06:30] <useruser> I'm running an ubuntu live cd. what do i type for my password when the screensaver locks me out?
[06:30] <fyrestrtr> Ethos_: root
[06:30] <tritium> mikebot: at some point, you and khermans should take the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:30] <thechitowncubs> Can I trust anyone to ssh into my machine to see what is going on, i'm not sure what to ask or what to look for.
[06:30] <thechitowncubs> I have 2 computers
[06:30] <khermans> mikebot, err Alt+0092 ?
[06:31] <Ethos_> Ethos_ what aobut root?
[06:31] <graft> thechitowncubs: don't let people ssh into your machine... bad idea
[06:31] <graft> what are you trying to do, dangit? what's the end goal?
[06:31] <AngryElf> fyrestrtr, defaults, so rw
[06:31] <fyrestrtr> thechitowncubs: what's the problem?
[06:31] <mikebot> khermans, thanks, and last thing (sorry tritium), what about the turnstyle, the like plus sign missing the left side (somethign like '|-')
[06:31] <Ethos_> fyrestrtr: this is my second voyage into linux, the first with a Linux filesystem
[06:31] <fyrestrtr> AngryElf: you mounted it as root?
[06:31] <intelikey> ryoku is libqt3-headers installed
[06:31] <jakel1311> Yo
[06:31] <useruser> i know i can sudo passwd from a terminal, but i don't want to have to do this on every boot
[06:31] <AngryElf> fyrestrtr, yes, but even root can't change the perms
[06:31] <useruser> is there an alternative?
[06:32] <mikebot> khermans, hrm, my alt+0092 doesn't work
[06:32] <mikebot> that's alright though
[06:32] <khermans> mikebot, dont know about the turnstyle
[06:32] <fyrestrtr> AngryElf: you probably don't have rights at the other end.
[06:32] <fyrestrtr> AngryElf: you said this was smbfs?
[06:32] <ryoku> yeh
[06:32] <khermans> mikebot, lastly, before we anger others, try the Insert -> Symbol option
[06:32] <mikebot> khermans, i've tried that, no luck
[06:32] <thechitowncubs> They are both samba servers, 1 computer shares my 320gb hard drive mounted to /media/bighd to my ubuntu-server, which has it mounted to /mnt/bighd... folders of that are then symbolically linked to /home/shares/allusers/Music,Movies,Pictures and I need my users group to be able to read/write to the /mnt/bighd
[06:32] <jakel1311> what are most of you using ubuntu for?  Server or Home PC?
[06:32] <mikebot> khermans, thanksf or the help though
[06:32] <intelikey> useruser if you "one" time do sudo passwd you set the root password,  it will remain until you change it.
[06:32] <lunari> I'm back into Ubuntu
[06:32] <mikebot> haha
[06:32] <AngryElf> fyrestrtr, yes smbfs.......i can rw inside the folder, i just can't change the perms on the folder itself
[06:32] <Ethos_> fyrestrtr: what did you mean by "root"?
[06:32] <thechitowncubs> ahh that is the best way i can describe it
[06:33] <lunari> Now how can I configure grub to have windows on the list also?
[06:33] <useruser> intelikey: i mean sudo passwd ubuntu
[06:33] <useruser> intelikey: but it's annoying that the screensaver locks me out
[06:33] <fyrestrtr> AngryElf: you need to change permissions at the server end
[06:33] <AngryElf> fyrestrtr, permissions on what, the shared folder?  they're all the user, not root
[06:33] <fyrestrtr> Ethos_: the root user of the system. Ie, superuser -- administrator -- King Ding-a-Ling -- Big Daddy Root
[06:33] <mikebot> thanks a lot everyone, i have to write
[06:33] <mikebot> cya
[06:33] <graft> thechitowncubs: um.. why samba instead of NFS?
[06:33] <tritium> good luck, mikebot
[06:34] <fatehaze> Can I use my ubuntu cd to repair my mbr?
[06:34] <tritium> hi Fujitsu_
[06:34] <fyrestrtr> AngryElf: I am saying, with smbfs, you need to change permissions on the host PC which not on the client. And yeah, why aren't you using NFS?
[06:34] <Ethos_> okay, but I don't understand who the root user of the system is?
[06:34] <intelikey> useruser i'm sorry there must be ingormation that you hav which i don't have.   live cd or what ?
[06:34] <thechitowncubs> graft, i don't know how to use NFS
[06:34] <lunari> brb
[06:34] <fyrestrtr> fatehaze: you want to repair it back to Windows?
[06:34] <Dr_Willis>  hmm.
[06:34] <Ethos_> I created the partition in Partition Magic earlier in Windows
[06:34] <fatehaze> I want to repair my MBR back to grub
[06:34] <fyrestrtr> thechitowncubs: its easier than smbfs :)
[06:34] <Ethos_> and I didn't have a linux account at the time
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> NFS is fairly easy to set up.
[06:34] <graft> thechitowncubs: um. okay... so why can't you just have the samba share read/writeable from where it is by your users? why bother mounting it at all?
[06:34] <fatehaze> Another distro installed lilo and messed it up, now I can't boot anything
[06:34] <thechitowncubs> Where do I start.
[06:34] <fyrestrtr> fatehaze: just install grub again on the boot partition
[06:34] <Eleaf> how do I disable telnet?
[06:34] <fatehaze> I can't boot into any OS though...
[06:35] <tritium> Eleaf: don't install it in the first place
[06:35] <Eleaf> I'm running ftp on the telnet port and I think telnet is messing with it.
[06:35] <fyrestrtr> fatehaze: boot from a livecd
[06:35] <Eleaf> tritium, I didn't
[06:35] <AngryElf> fyrestrtr, i have changed all the perms on the server, none of the files/folders are owned by root, yet when i mount them on the client the mount point is owned by root, and even root cannot change it.....it says perm denied.........i'm using smb cause i'm more familiar
[06:35] <Eleaf> tritium, does that mean it isn't activated?
[06:35] <thechitowncubs> graft, what do you mean
[06:35] <tritium> Eleaf: then you don't have it
[06:35] <fatehaze> I tried that, it won't let me install grub from a live cd
[06:35] <DarthShrine> Afternoon
[06:35] <AngryElf> fyrestrtr, and i use it with a windows machine
[06:35] <lunari> I'm back
[06:35] <fyrestrtr> AngryElf: your server is a Windows machine?
[06:35] <Eleaf> tritium, what could this mean?  this happens whenever connecting to my ftp server  227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,0,2,130,129).
[06:35] <Eleaf> tritium, then it times out
[06:35] <AngryElf> fyrestrtr, no, one of the clients is
[06:35] <babo> I run my skype executable and it doesn't return anything ... I've ran ldd skype and it seems like all the libraries are there but the executable in my chroot 32 environment doesn't actually do anything ... it just returns.
[06:35] <Eleaf> tritium, that happens whenever I do "ls" or something
[06:36] <tritium> Eleaf: no idea
[06:36] <Eleaf> yeargh
[06:36] <fatehaze> I tried installing grub with nUbuntu, but no dice
[06:36] <intelikey> Eleaf telnet-server ?   remove the symlink in the rc2.d    man update-rc.d
[06:36] <graft> thechitowncubs: i mean,you're all on the same network, why can't they just access that samba share directly? why does it have to be mounted on the ubuntu server at all?
[06:36] <lunari> How do I setup grub to show windows in the boot list? ubuntu is on sda2 and windows is sda1
[06:36] <talios> hey all - how does one disable ipv6 support in ubuntu?
[06:36] <fyrestrtr> AngryElf: use NFS for the linux clients, and samba for only the Windows clients (since you can't mess with permissions on Windows anyway).
[06:36] <Eleaf> intelikey, well I guess I don't have it installed
[06:36] <thechitowncubs> graft because it set up like that... doesn't make much sense but its just how i have it set up
[06:36] <fyrestrtr> lunari: increase the timeout in the configuration file of grub.
[06:36] <zanth> good evening, I had firefox working...then it just didn't...likely after installing some software
[06:36] <jakel1311> q
[06:37] <graft> thechitowncubs: yeah but that's probably the source of your headache...
[06:37] <zanth> root can run it, but user can't
[06:37] <Eleaf> does anybody knows what this means?  227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,0,2,130,129).
[06:37] <Eleaf>          I get that whenever typing 'ls' on my ftp server, it then times out.
[06:37] <fatehaze> I get this when I try to install grub from a live cd: dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive
[06:37] <zanth> "LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library libXt.so [libXt.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory]
[06:37] <zanth> "
[06:37] <zanth> that is my error
[06:37] <graft> just make your samba share read/writeable and let everyone connect to it individually
[06:37] <lunari> fyrestrtr: how do I get windows on the list though?
[06:37] <lunari> it isn't even listed
[06:37] <intelikey> lunari you edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:37] <fyrestrtr> Eleaf: means its using passive FTP
[06:37] <thechitowncubs> graft, well i just installed this hard drive today and everything was working before...
[06:37] <lunari> thank you :)
[06:37] <fatehaze> I'd really like to not have to reformat my entire machine because of lilo, again
[06:37] <Eleaf> fyrestrtr, how do I stop that, it seems to always disconnect right after that
[06:37] <fyrestrtr> lunari: oh, for that you'd have to set it up. What grub partition is Windows on?
[06:37] <bassinboy> how do you update apt? and I can't kill a process, it says miniserv.pl(6185): Operation not permitted
[06:37] <lunari> windows is on sda1
[06:37] <tritium> Eleaf: why not use a ssh server instead, anyway?
[06:38] <Eleaf> tritium, you can for ftp?
[06:38] <intelikey> lunari there is a wiki on that.
[06:38] <tritium> Eleaf: sftp
[06:38] <YukiCuss> ckqhalsd
[06:38] <lunari> cool, do you happen to have a link? :o
[06:38] <Eleaf> tritium, I need to use ftp for my python program
[06:38] <ryoku> i think i found the problem instead of /usr/lib/qt3/include it is in /usr/include/qt3
[06:38] <fatehaze> Is there any way I can repair it with the Ubuntu disk?  A repair option, or the such?
[06:38] <Eleaf> tritium, will it act the same way?  do you think this is a problem to do with my ftp server?
[06:38] <tritium> Eleaf: okat then
[06:38] <Eleaf> tritium, this is fine when I connect locally
[06:38] <tritium> s/okat/okay
[06:38] <wenko> how do i make it so that I can SSH into my ubuntu box
[06:38] <tritium> Eleaf: perhaps
[06:38] <Eleaf> tritium, when connecting from the internet, it does that timeout passive thing
[06:38] <tritium> wenko: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[06:39] <Daskies> Is this correct: sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[06:39] <fatehaze> Any ideas?  I'm kind of dead in the water
[06:39] <tritium> Daskies: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:39] <bimberi> Daskies: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:39] <gnu_style> is Qparted safe to use? im trying to resize my WinXP hdd fat32 to make space with another distro
[06:39] <gnu_style> ??
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> fatehaze,  fsck is the common command to correct disk errors.
[06:39] <thechitowncubs> fixed it
[06:39] <thechitowncubs> stupid error
[06:39] <thechitowncubs> my bad
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> gnu_style,  its worked fine for me.
[06:39] <fatehaze> I don't think I can run that
[06:39] <tritium> ryoku: no, you're confusing header files with libraries
[06:39] <bimberi> gah tritium is on the ball today
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> gnu_style,  it pays to  have backups just in case.
[06:40] <tritium> bimberi: :)
[06:40] <fyrestrtr> Eleaf: seems your FTP server is not using passive mode.
[06:40] <gnu_style> there no way to back up my 120 gig HDD
[06:40] <Eleaf> fyrestrtr, so why does it go into passive mode when not locally connected ?
[06:40] <fyrestrtr> Eleaf: passive mode is there if a firewall prevents direct connections to the client PC from the FTP server
[06:40] <ufo> why to use ftp server anyway?
[06:40] <Eleaf> fyrestrtr, that could be it
[06:41] <halflife28> None of you know what this means?: Fatal error: mime_magic could not be initialized, magic file is not available in /opt/lampp/htdocs/wiki/includes/MimeMagic.php on line 504
[06:41] <Eleaf> fyrestrtr, how do I get past this?
[06:41] <fatehaze> I installed Backtrack to my disk, which already had xp and ubuntu, but it installed Lilo
[06:41] <ufo> use ssh
[06:41] <fyrestrtr> Eleaf: I don't know, but use something else like scp
[06:41] <fatehaze> and Lilo would only boot Backtrack, so I used "lilo -u"
[06:41] <Eleaf> fyrestrtr, I used a different port because 21 was blocked.  23 is open
[06:41] <Eleaf> scp?
[06:41] <gnu_style> qparted vs partition magic? which is safer?
[06:41] <tritium> ufo: I suggested that, but he has a python program that only uses ftp
[06:41] <Eleaf> fyrestrtr, is scp ftp?  I absolutely need ftp for my program I made
[06:41] <ufo> ok..
[06:41] <fyrestrtr> secure copy -- if you have ssh access on both machines, you can use that.
[06:41] <fatehaze> But that didn't work at all...
[06:41] <Eleaf> or I would have to recode the whole thing.
[06:41] <halflife28> Guess not
[06:41] <Eleaf> fyrestrtr, I need a ftp server, it's not just simple copying.
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> gnu_style,  I dont use partitionmagic at all any more.
[06:41] <fyrestrtr> you need ftp access for a program you made?
[06:42] <fatehaze> Now I can't boot anything at all except live cds, and I can't modify the MBR from live cds
[06:42] <Eleaf> fyrestrtr, it's a complicated distributive project, with a bunch of computers connecting to the ftp server
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> gnu_style,  and thers always a risk of loseing the whole drive with either program.. so it pays to backup the imporntant data.. not the whole drive. :P
[06:42] <terrellowens> im on a live cd and resolution is only 640x480, how do I change this?  The resolution is not showing up in the config panel.
[06:42] <[help> anyone know a thing about installing a scanner
[06:42] <[help> ?
[06:42] <Devil^Chat> i have problem win grub pls help me
[06:42] <fyrestrtr> fatehaze: after you have booted from the livecd, mount the primary disk and then install grub on it -- or, boot from a Windows disk into safemode (or recovery mode), then type fdisk --fixmbr or something like that.
[06:43] <Devil^Chat> 1st i install ubuntu in hda and work,now i wanna plug my 2nd hd in hdb,in my  2nd hd have windowsxp,but in grub is not detec my windows,so what i must to do if i wanna go login to windows?
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> [help,  depends on the scanner. :P mine i just plugged it in , and installed the SANE tools and it worked.
[06:43] <fyrestrtr> Eleaf: first thing, open port 21. 23 is used by telnet, so don't use that port.
[06:43] <[help> yea i have xsane and it didnt detect it
[06:44] <gnu_style> Devil^Chat>: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:44] <graft> [help: what kinda scanner?
[06:44] <fyrestrtr> Devil^Chat: you need to setup grub's menu for it.
[06:44] <[help> scanport sq2036
[06:44] <[help> hand me down
[06:44] <Devil^Chat> tech me tuh set grub pls
[06:44] <damian_> hey im just wondering if i can set system monitor to a keyboard s\hortcut
[06:44] <damian_> hey im just wondering if i can set system monitor to a keyboard shortcut and if so how?
[06:44] <gnu_style> Devil^Chat>: to update ur mbr 'grub-install /dev/hdx'
[06:45] <gnu_style> Devil^Chat>: x means the letter or the hdd you want grub to install..
[06:45] <fatehaze> fyrestarter: I get this when I try to mount from a live cd - mount: special device /dev/hda4/ does not exist (a path prefix is not a directory
[06:45] <fatehaze> and I don't have a windows disk...
[06:46] <Devil^Chat> 1st i install ubuntu in hda and work,now i wanna plug my 2nd hd in hdb,in my  2nd hd have windowsxp,but in grub is not detec my windows,so what i must to do if i wanna go login to windows?
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> [help,  step #1 would be to check the SANE home page and see how well supported that scanner is.
[06:46] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: Don't mount /dev/hda4/ /something/
[06:46] <Disorganized> anyone know of an mp3 tagger like Tag and Rename for linux?
[06:46] <Devil^Chat> /dev/hdb does not have any corresponding BIOS drive
[06:46] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: Instead: mount /dev/hda4 /something/
[06:46] <Daskies> terrellowens, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28131
[06:46] <crimsun> Disorganized: easytag, ex falso
[06:46] <fatehaze> lemme find out exactly what I typed, brb
[06:46] <paulproteus|lapt> Disorganized: ex falso! (-:
[06:46] <[help> okis
[06:46] <Disorganized> thanks guys
[06:46] <gnu_style> Devil^Chat>: what do you mean do coresponding bios drivw?
[06:46] <fatehaze> I did this: sudo mount /dev/hda4/ /media/test -t ext2 -o rw
[06:46] <fyrestrtr> Devil^Chat: type this in your menu.lst in /boot/grub/ -- title=Windows XP rootnoverify(hd1,0) makeactive chainloader +1
[06:47] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: replace "4/" with "4"
[06:47] <fyrestrtr> but each part on a separate line.
[06:47] <graft> [help: isn't listed on the SANE page
[06:47] <thechitowncubs> -rwxrwxrwx (what does that mean?)
[06:47] <graft> though the SQ2030 is...
[06:47] <graft> so  maybe you'll getlucky
[06:47] <fyrestrtr> fatehaze: your /boot partition is ext2 ?
[06:47] <fyrestrtr> thechitowncubs: 777 permissions
[06:47] <graft> what bus interface are you using? USB?
[06:47] <intelikey> hmmm wonder what this will do? "tty1 [root#~]  chmod 0000001 /usr/bin/* "
[06:47] <thechitowncubs> fyrestrtr, thanks
[06:47] <[help> dang
[06:47] <fatehaze> yeah, it's either ext2 or ext3 - I tried both, but both gave the same message
[06:48] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: Do what I suggested!
[06:48] <Devil^Chat> fyrestrtr; ok
[06:48] <paulproteus|lapt> Please! (-:
[06:48] <fyrestrtr> intelikey: probably error out
[06:48] <fatehaze> paulproeus|lapt: i'll boot with a cd and try it
[06:48] <fyrestrtr> fatehaze: try -t auto
[06:48] <intelikey> fyrestrtr nope
[06:48] <paulproteus|lapt> I don't see why you can't just try it now...
[06:48] <fatehaze> I'm staring at the ubuntu install screen right now, just a sec
[06:48] <fatehaze> Gotta dig out a live cd
[06:48] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: Okay, good reason. (-:
[06:48] <fyrestrtr> intelikey: it will, unless you have a file called *  :)
[06:49] <intelikey> fyrestrtr ha they are all *
[06:49] <graft> that would pretty much screw you over, eh
[06:49] <andrewk> hello hello
[06:50] <thechitowncubs> fyrestrtr, drwxr-xr-x (how about that)
[06:51] <intelikey> graft for the default install yes.
[06:51] <graft> i suppose that speaks well for the security of the operating system
[06:52] <intelikey> graft but only because it removes suid from sudo.  other than that you'd never notice it.
[06:53] <andrewk> anyhow have a suggestion for a calendar that will export in ical format (.ics for my ipod). I've been looking on the web and the only thing I've seen is evolution.
[06:53] <intelikey> well a few p<commands>  maybe also.
[06:54] <bimberi> andrewk: i'm fairly sure mozilla-calendar _works with_ ical format, not sure about export though
[06:54] <fyrestrtr> thechitowncubs: a directory with 766 permissions
[06:54] <fyrestrtr> andrewk: so what's wrong with evolution?
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> So my partition table right now is Windows, unallocated (4,424MB), shared Fat32, unallocated (3,742MB), /, /multimedia, /boot, /home, swap, ibm recovery, unallocated (431MB), in that order.  How can I best make use of those free spaces?
[06:55] <graft> intelikey: um... can you exec files you can't read? i don't think so...
[06:55] <intelikey> tty1 [root#~]  chmod 0000001 /usr/*bin/*
[06:55] <intelikey> tty1 [root#~]  chmod 0000001 /*bin/*
[06:55] <intelikey> tty1 [root#~]
[06:55] <[help> peace
[06:55] <intelikey> i guess so graft
[06:55] <kapputu> Hi folks
[06:55] <kapputu> where do I download automatix from?
[06:55] <andrewk> fyrestrtr: I just wasn't sure I wanted to use evo for my mail client. I know it's the default gnome deal but is it worth using?
[06:55] <gnu_style> I cant find my TRASH in KDE.. where do I look?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> kapputu,  its best that you DONT use that.
[06:56] <Mischevious> kapputu, don't use easyubuntu
[06:56] <graft> gnu_style: it's on the desktop usually
[06:56] <graft> unless you removed it
[06:56] <bimberi> kapputu: don
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> the bestest is to learn how install the stuff yourself. :P
[06:56] <fyrestrtr> andrewk: well its very well rounded out, and consolidates a lot of stuff into one app.
[06:56] <bimberi> kapputu: don't, use easyubuntu
[06:56] <kapputu> Dr_Willis:  I have done that before
[06:56] <kapputu> I have been using Ubuntu for 2 years now
[06:56] <kapputu> I just came back to it again after a long time
[06:56] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: I did that and got: mount: mount point /media/test does not exist
[06:56] <kapputu> Hey ogra
[06:57] <lunari> I just want to say thank you all for all your help, I got GRUB configured great :)
[06:57] <kapputu> is there any documentation on what services are actually needed to keep the computer running?
[06:57] <andrewk> fyrestrtr: if I add items to the calendar in evo, is there a gDesklet that will highlight dates or something of the such that will notify me?
[06:57] <intelikey> fatehaze if that's a problem, then make it.   sudo mkdir /media/test
[06:58] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: mkdir /media/test
[06:58] <gnu_style> I just apt-get kde.. swith to it and there is no trash
[06:58] <kapputu> I'm planning to use Ubuntu to learn more about the Unix system, Unix programming and setting up a web/ftp server
[06:58] <andrewk> fyrestrtr: I used to use outlook and I had a widget that would show my calendar on my desktop and highlight dates in which I had events set.
[06:59] <graft> gnu_style: you can just goto ~/.local/share/Trash in konqueror
[07:00] <htrp> how do you compile perl? do you even compile perl?
[07:00] <AngryElf> fyrestrtr, so i've gone and read a nfs faq and i keep getting permission denied errors trying to mount the shares.....
[07:00] <fyrestrtr> andrewk: you can do that with Evolution -- for widgets you might have to look elsewhere though. Evolution comes with weather and all that other stuff.
[07:00] <graft> htrp: um... no you don't compile perl
[07:00] <graft> well,y ou can compile perl
[07:00] <gnu_style> ~/ -- what does that mean?
[07:00] <gnu_style> root>
[07:00] <gnu_style> root>
[07:00] <espresso> I don't know how to fix this....
[07:00] <kapputu> doesn't perl come with Ubuntu?
[07:00] <graft> but usually you don't
[07:01] <fyrestrtr> gnu_style: home directory
[07:01] <espresso> W: Couldn't stat source package list file: breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_etc_ubuntu-install_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:01] <espresso> W: Couldn't stat source package list file: breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_etc_ubuntu-install_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:01] <htrp> how do you 'compile' the code then
[07:01] <gnu_style> ic ok
[07:01] <kapputu> http: what happened?
[07:01] <tritium> espresso: please don't paste like that
[07:01] <graft> htrp: why do you want to compile the code?
[07:01] <espresso> tritium: sorry
[07:01] <fyrestrtr> htrp: you don't compile perl, its an interpreted language.
[07:01] <chris> hello
[07:01] <espresso> this is just pissing me off now
[07:01] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: oh, hehe - sorry
[07:01] <intelikey> graft but the chmod is not at all a good idea for the default ubuntu,  it makes sudo unusable for everyone but root; thus totally crippling a normal ubuntu.  i mount / nosuid so sudo is worthless here anyway.  that command has only affected this system in that it prevents users from reading scripts that are amoung the */*bin/ files.
[07:01] <espresso> and I shouldn't be putting that on the room
[07:01] <htrp> i got this recovery perl code
[07:01] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: that worked though :D
[07:01] <htrp> or do i just do ./blah.pl ?
[07:02] <chris> how do i change my moniter
[07:02] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: what should I do now?
[07:02] <htrp> execute it?
[07:02] <fyrestrtr> htrp: yes
[07:02] <andrewk> fyrestrtr: thanks, I guess I'll give evolution a shot. may as well. if not I'll try a mozilla based deal. Feel out which one I like. Once again, thanks for the help.
[07:02] <fyrestrtr> chris: unplug it and plugin the other one?
[07:02] <kapputu> what are the repositories I add after I install Ubuntu?
[07:02] <graft> htrp: perl blah.pl
[07:02] <Mischevious> how do i control if rhythembox uses ALSA or OSS ?
[07:02] <fyrestrtr> andrewk: I'm sure you'll like it -- its the Outlook replacement for Linux.
[07:02] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: I don't know what you're trying to do! (-:
[07:02] <chris> it still says the old on is hook up
[07:03] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: hehe, fix my MBR
[07:03] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: so assumedly install grub
[07:03] <intelikey> chris sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   answer all questions correctly.
[07:03] <graft> in the LQ poll evolution was behind both Kmail and Thunderbird...
[07:03] <fatehaze> can I do that now?
[07:03] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: Have you mounted your root partition yet?
[07:03] <paulproteus|lapt> If so cd /place/you/mounted/it/
[07:03] <paulproteus|lapt> chroot .
[07:03] <espresso> can anyone think of why I can't seem to get the Package.gz list from the ubuntu archive?
[07:03] <espresso> I can't apt-get anything now... that's the error that continues to come up
[07:04] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: isn't that what I just did?  excuse my noobishness :P
[07:04] <fatehaze> my original ubuntu install is on hda4
[07:04] <kapputu> everyone is busy?
[07:04] <graft> espresso: try a different mirror
[07:04] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: Did you chroot in?
[07:04] <kapputu> can anyone read my messages?
[07:04] <intelikey> espresso sudo apt-get update
[07:04] <paulproteus|lapt> kapputu: I can read it.
[07:04] <espresso> graft: what mirrors are there? and why can I get other packages?
[07:04] <intelikey> kapputu no
[07:04] <kapputu> good, your eyesight is good
[07:04] <espresso> intelikey: I get that from apt-get update
[07:04] <andrewk> kapputu: hello.
[07:04] <yggdrasil_> !real player
[07:04] <ubotu> yggdrasil_: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:05] <kapputu> intelikey:  how do I stop the services I don't need?
[07:05] <espresso> I get messages
[07:05] <shrewduser> kappatu: if you mean enabling universe and multiverse its easy to do that from synaptic
[07:05] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: I just did chroot /media/test, which I assume is my hda4?
[07:05] <espresso> error messages
[07:05] <tritium> kapputu: with update-rc.d
[07:05] <kapputu> and where do I find the extra repositories?
[07:05] <intelikey> espresso pastebin your sources.list
[07:05] <graft> espresso: what's in your sources.list?
[07:05] <graft> !mirrors
[07:05] <yggdrasil_> tell me about real player
[07:05] <ubotu> methinks mirrors is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[07:05] <kapputu> tritium: is there some documentation on the services?
[07:05] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: I was getting help from someone earlier, that's as far as we got before he gave up
[07:05] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: Great.
[07:05] <Klick_> hey all, i have a thinkpad x41 using the i810 driver, and i have glx loaded with no errors, dept 16, whenever i run any GL based screensavers it seems like every 5 seconds it lags for 1/2 a sec then goes back, but its annoying because its not smooth like GL should be, any ideas what could be casuing this.
[07:05] <htrp>  xorg-server 1.0.0, as shipped with X11R7.0, and all release candidates
[07:05] <htrp> # of X11R7.0, is vulnerable.
[07:05] <htrp> yall heard about this?
[07:05] <tritium> kapputu: for startets, man update-rc.d
[07:05] <shrewduser> kappatu: if you mean the universe and multiverse one's you just enable them...
[07:05] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: sudo mount -a
[07:05] <gnu_style> how to I become involved in ubuntu?
[07:05] <intelikey> kapputu sudo /etc/init.d/<service> stop
[07:06] <athlon> KDE has this nifty little applet called KTeaTime that basically acts like an alarm.  Does gnome have something similar to that ?
[07:06] <tritium> htrp: it's already being addressed
[07:06] <graft> htrp: err... howzat?
[07:06] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: "sudo: unable to lookup nubuntu via gethostbyname()"
[07:06] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: Heh.
[07:06] <espresso> http://pastebin.com/613856
[07:06] <htrp> its 'patched' already
[07:06] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: Does your prompt begin wtih "#"?
[07:06] <htrp> ?
[07:06] <paulproteus|lapt> Or does it have "$" in it instead?
[07:06] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: it's a #
[07:06] <graft> htrp: what's the vulnerability?
[07:06] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: Great, then it's a root prompt.
[07:06] <paulproteus|lapt> No need for "sudo" anyway.
[07:06] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: mount -a
[07:07] <kapputu> do you guys know of a Cisco VPN Client for Linux that I can download?
[07:07] <xakkkk> whats a good RSS applet for gnome?? not from gdesklets but a standalone one
[07:07] <paulproteus|lapt> That mounts "all" based on what that system expects.
[07:07] <fyrestrtr> athlon: if you are a KDE fan, why not try kubuntu?
[07:07] <tritium> kapputu: vpnc
[07:07] <yggdrasil_> tell me about real player
[07:07] <paulproteus|lapt> xakkkk: I used to use straw
[07:07] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: ah, I see - that worked
[07:07] <fyrestrtr> xakkkk: Firefox
[07:07] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: Great.
[07:07] <athlon> fyrestrtr: because I am not a "fan" of any DE, and I currently like to use GNOME
[07:07] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: Now, why did your last GRUB thing fail?
[07:07] <paulproteus|lapt> Any idea?
[07:07] <fyrestrtr> athlon: ah nice.
[07:07] <babo> How do I import a display into my chroot environment ?????
[07:07] <intelikey> paulproteus|lapt   # or $   lol  still use a default prompt i see.... :)
[07:07] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: ah, I see - that worked :D
[07:07] <xakkkk> paulproteus|lapt  i cant add any rss feeds to firefox or maybe i dont know how ..
[07:07] <paulproteus|lapt> intelikey: I'm helping someone with a Live CD...
[07:08] <babo> I want to startx ....  in my 32bit chroot
[07:08] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: my last grub didn't fail, lilo was written over it
[07:08] <paulproteus|lapt> xakkkk: I use Thunderbird for RSS reading these days.
[07:08] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: Oh, okay.
[07:08] <kapputu> ok. networking experts here, does my sys admin need to enable VPN connections from Linux?
[07:08] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: Off-topic, perhaps, but how'd that happen?
[07:08] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: and lilo does little else besides destroy MBR's, in my experience
[07:08] <kapputu> is there such a setting in a VPN concetrator that determines peer types?
[07:08] <fyrestrtr> athlon: I know I have seen one before, just forgot the name. Been a long time since I did any GUI work in Linux.
[07:08] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: well, I installed Backtrack to my drive, which overwrote grub with lilo
[07:08] <babo> apt-get install gnome   ... maybe ???
[07:08] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: That's a little harsher than I'd be. (-:
[07:08] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: update-grub
[07:08] <paulproteus|lapt> That should do the trick, I think.
[07:08] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: I tried to uninstall lilo with "lilo -u" but that just ruined my life
[07:09] <kapputu> what's the command to get the list of running services?
[07:09] <yggdrasil_> how can i install real player
[07:09] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: Yeah, seriously.
[07:09] <paulproteus|lapt> kapputu: ps ax ?
[07:09] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: I have no net on this machine, I can't use the net
[07:09] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: I know; that's okay.
[07:09] <kapputu> paulproteus - services that are started at runtime
[07:09] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: should I grub-install /dev/hda?
[07:09] <RemyLaptop> I guys, I have a question: when trying to run some games, I get an error like the following: http://pastebin.com/613861
[07:09] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: That'd be fine, and probably equivalent to what I suggested.
[07:09] <RemyLaptop> any ideas?
[07:09] <chris> whast the best desktop to use
[07:09] <babo> How harsh is a     apt-get -f install    exactly ... ?
[07:09] <gnu_style> where can I get a list of internal modems supported by ubuntu?
[07:09] <paulproteus|lapt> Chris: GNOME is pretty nice.
[07:10] <paulproteus|lapt> babo: "-f" is "--fix-missing".
[07:10] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: just to /hda, or should I do it to a specific numbered hda?
[07:10] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: Oh, just do "update-grub" and see what that does. (-:
[07:10] <paulproteus|lapt> babo: It's a repair option, so it's not harsh at all.
[07:10] <fyrestrtr> fatehaze: to your boot partition
[07:10] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: k :)
[07:10] <raven> Can anyone help me with a problem with make please?
[07:10] <babo> paulproteus|lapt: oh right ... I'd assumed it was --force .... thanks
[07:10] <fatehaze> That gave me a warning, but seemed to work... gonna restart now
[07:10] <seniorquico> hi all...my install is freezing right at end...when I reboot computer, it freezes before it shows login screen...anyone know what I can try?
[07:10] <muleherd> wpa_supplicant tells me the 'hermes' driver is unsupported. Does that mean the ubuntu build wasn't compiled with hermes support?
[07:11] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: What warning?
[07:11] <fyrestrtr> seniorquico: check the output of dmesg
[07:11] <tritium> raven: do you have build-essential installed?
[07:11] <paulproteus|lapt> babo: A common misconception from those who come from RPMland.
[07:11] <paulproteus|lapt> (and others.)
[07:11] <raven> im not sure tritium
[07:11] <kapputu> I need to know the services that are started by Ubuntu, by default. Where do I look?
[07:11] <seniorquico> fyrestrtr: ok...sry...I'm linux noob...where is that?
[07:11] <raven> im new to linux, ive only been using it for about 5 days now
[07:11] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: something about a bug, if it appears, fix it and re-run grub-install
[07:11] <yggdrasil_> how can install real player
[07:11] <tritium> raven: please "sudo aptitude install build-essential" and try again
[07:11] <raven> ok
[07:11] <fyrestrtr> paulproteus|lapt: how do I get rid of the PGP signature warnings on apt-get update ?
[07:11] <fatehaze> paulproteus|lapt: it's gone now so I don't know exactly :P
[07:11] <andrewk> was someone looking for a timer?
[07:12] <fyrestrtr> seniorquico: just type dmesg
[07:12] <RemyLaptop> !tell yggdrasil about easyubuntu
[07:12] <fatehaze> Hey, PGP - I work for Phil Zimmermann, if you can believe it.
[07:12] <intelikey> andrewk time ?
[07:12] <fyrestrtr> fatehaze: well tell him he does good work.
[07:12] <raven> still the same tritium
[07:12] <RemyLaptop> I guys, I have a question: when trying to run some games, I get an error like the following: http://pastebin.com/613861
[07:12] <raven> when i type make i get the error make[1] : msgfmt: Command not found
[07:12] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: Well, does it boot? (-:
[07:13] <fatehaze> fyrestrtr: he really has little to do with PGP these days, but zfone just entered beta
[07:13] <andrewk> intelikey: a timer application for gnome as compared to kde's KTeaTime
[07:13] <fatehaze> fyrestrtr: or should I say TeleSecret, he changed the name yesterday
[07:13] <InnerFIRE> anyone  here know quite a bit about wine?
[07:13] <tritium> raven: what are you building?
[07:13] <andrewk> athlon: you still need a replacement to KTeaTime
[07:13] <raven> trying to get Gkrellm working tritium
[07:13] <fyrestrtr> lol nice -- hope it doesn't tell secrets instead of telesecret :P
[07:13] <fatehaze> Yay, it boots!  :D
[07:13] <shrewduser> InnerFIRE: join #winehq
[07:13] <jbritz22> its me and im back
[07:13] <intelikey> andrewk oh a frontend for time   i see.
[07:13] <jbritz22> finally downstairs with the net working
[07:13] <jbritz22> XD
[07:14] <jbritz22> got some questions though, can I install Konsole onto Gnome?
[07:14] <fatehaze> Thanks paul and fyre, you did what like 20 other gurus couldn't :D
[07:14] <tritium> raven: you let build-essential and its dependencies fully install?
[07:14] <fatehaze> fyrestrtr: I suggested Ciphone to him today, I hope he picks it :)
[07:14] <Mischevious> anyone know why even though i have gnome set to use alsa, it seems to be using esd ?
[07:14] <tritium> !tell jbritz22 about enter
[07:14] <wd3> hey juztin what's up
[07:14] <JoeMorris> hi
[07:15] <raven> tritium,  yes i did, i have a older version of gkrellm on my system but i would like this newer version installed
[07:15] <jbritz22> oops
[07:15] <intelikey> jbritz22 konsole is part of kdebase isn't it ?   you can install it and then execute it from within gnome.   if that helps.
[07:15] <jbritz22> is it still doing it?
[07:15] <raven> tritium, ive never had make working
[07:15] <JoeMorris> its amazing how much linux has evolved
[07:15] <RemyLaptop> I have a question: when trying to run some games, I get an error like the following: http://pastebin.com/613861
[07:15] <jbritz22> the enter thing
[07:15] <jbritz22> im on gaim
[07:15] <fatehaze> if you ever see the zfone/telesecret/ciphone documentation, I wrote it B-)
[07:15] <tritium> raven: is gettext installed (please run "apt-cache policy gettext")
[07:15] <wd3> hey intelikey thatnks for the help also yesterday
[07:15] <raven> tritium, ok
[07:15] <jbritz22> isnt kdebase a huge file though?
[07:15] <JoeMorris> i still remember the days of slackware and when redhat started to gain ground
[07:15] <andrewk> this is honestly the first time I've used linux since like mandrake 5/6
[07:15] <JoeMorris> now ubuntu is getting top draw :)
[07:16] <JoeMorris> i didnt like the new screenshots for fedora core 5
[07:16] <Fujitsu> Good, JoeMorris and andrewk.
[07:16] <brennan> hello?
[07:16] <Fujitsu> That's the point of Ubuntu, to be liked by everybody :)
[07:16] <intelikey> !info kdebase
[07:16] <ubotu> kdebase: (base components from the official KDE release), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu6 (breezy), Packaged size: 32 kB, Installed size: 72 kB
[07:16] <JoeMorris> waiting anxiously for the next ubuntu :)
[07:16] <fyrestrtr> RemyLaptop: how are you running the games?
[07:16] <jbritz22> is there anyway to optimize gnome, like take away animations etc...
[07:16] <jbritz22> nice
[07:16] <fyrestrtr> !info irssi
[07:16] <raven> tritium, it is now
[07:17] <JoeMorris> google eats ubuntu for dogfood
[07:17] <intelikey> jbritz22 Installed size: 72 kB
[07:17] <jbritz22> sweet
[07:17] <JoeMorris> lol
[07:17] <jbritz22> *goes off to install it*
[07:17] <tritium> raven: try make again
[07:17] <RemyLaptop> fyrestrtr either from the terminal or from the link in the "applications" menu
[07:17] <intelikey> jbritz22 but it may have deps out the wazoo
[07:17] <andrewk> i'm incredibly happy with the applications at my disposal now that I'm on linux again
[07:17] <jbritz22> is there any way I can install the rpm on gnome?
[07:17] <JoeMorris> which is the package which installs microsoft true type fonts and stuff?
[07:17] <fyrestrtr> RemyLaptop: just try running it using sudo
[07:17] <RemyLaptop> fyrestrtr If I click on the link, it just doesn't load, but in the terminal it gives me that error
[07:17] <raven> tritium, its going crazy with lots of error msgs
[07:18] <tritium> JoeMorris: msttcorefonts
[07:18] <Fujitsu> !alien
[07:18] <ubotu> alien is, like, a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[07:18] <intelikey> if i installed kdebase here jbritz22 it says   Need to get 51.0MB/57.1MB of archives.
[07:18] <intelikey> After unpacking 158MB of additional disk space will be used.
[07:18] <JoeMorris> trutium nono the software which installs a bunch of stuff
[07:18] <JoeMorris> it was on slashdot
[07:18] <JoeMorris> but i fergot the name
[07:18] <raven> tritium,  everything is either error or warning
[07:18] <tritium> raven: you likely don't have all the build-dependencies installed.  Why not install the ubuntu package instead?
[07:18] <JoeMorris> it installs truetype fonts, java, etc...
[07:18] <raven> tritium, how do i do that?
[07:18] <Fujitsu> JoeMorris, you don't want to use Automatic. Use EasyUbuntu instead!
[07:18] <intelikey> jbritz22 i have no idea what part of that is already on your system
[07:18] <frank23> jbritz22: using rpms is not a good idea. use a deb or compile is better
[07:18] <Fujitsu> !automatix
[07:18] <ubotu> automatix is, like, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[07:18] <Fujitsu> !easyubuntu
[07:18] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[07:18] <RemyLaptop> fyrestrtr sudo gets a bit further, but the game itself says it can't run...
[07:19] <fyrestrtr> hrmm -- what game is it?
[07:19] <jbritz22> ok
[07:19] <dli__> why totem doesn't open mp3? do I need a plugin for toem?
[07:19] <tritium> raven: it's in the universe repository.  Enable it, and install gkrellm.
[07:19] <JoeMorris> fujitsu:  Will it be fixed in a future version?
[07:19] <raven> tritium, ok thank you
[07:19] <Fujitsu> JoeMorris, Automatix?
[07:19] <JoeMorris> yes
[07:19] <tritium> raven: there are a ton of gkrellm packages too (apt-cache search gkrellm)
[07:19] <AngryElf> honestly, this shouldn't be this hard........now i'm not getting any errors, now it's just hanging when i try to mount a NFS share.....what's going on now?
[07:19] <tritium> !tell raven about universe
[07:19] <JoeMorris> fujitsu all those issues u talked about
[07:19] <Fujitsu> Automatix is a really bad piece of software.
[07:19] <Fujitsu> It is dangerous.
[07:19] <tritium> indeed
[07:20] <RemyLaptop> !tell dli__ about easyubuntu
[07:20] <fyrestrtr> AngryElf: first, did you allow access to the NFS server for your client? You need to put in the IP address or hostname.
[07:20] <Fujitsu> Automatix should not be used under /any/ circumstances. The author is evil and nasty and types badly.
[07:20] <andrewk> Q - anyone have an ipod accessing&manipulating music player that will not only let me change songs on my ipod but play them as well?
[07:20] <andrewk> Q - I've tried amarok but sometimes my PC freezes using that.
 is there any way I can install the rpm on gnome? <--- you wont be installing anything on gnome.  but at any rate, setup your repos and use synaptic to install *
[07:21] <intelikey> !tell jbritz22 about repos
[07:21] <jbritz22> i cant find kdebase on any of the repos
[07:21] <jbritz22> im pretty sure i enabled them all
[07:21] <jbritz22> all i got is kde, and kdebase-doc
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> gah, brb -- going to ssh into my other desktop because apt-get refuses to install irssi
[07:21] <wd3> hey guys i upgraded to xubuntu and today when i logged on my default "mouse icon xfce" background is gone and gnome brown is on how can get that back or install new background?
[07:21] <AngryElf> fyrestrtr, yes, my exports file is "/root/to/folder client.ip.address(rw)"
[07:21] <tritium> jbritz22: you should install kubuntu-desktop
[07:21] <intelikey> jbritz22 already installed ?
[07:21] <jbritz22> nope
[07:21] <Fujitsu> jbritz22, kubuntu-desktop
[07:22] <fyrestrtr> AngryElf: okay, brb -- let me login from ubuntu
[07:22] <intelikey> Fujitsu no
[07:22] <Fujitsu> Me yes.
[07:22] <intelikey> not all that just for konsole
[07:22] <intelikey> i mean come on.
[07:22] <tritium> jbritz22: all you want is konsole?  odd...
[07:22] <yggdrasil_> how can install real player
[07:23] <brennan> go to real.cpm
[07:23] <tritium> !tell yggdrasil_ about restricted
[07:23] <brennan> *real.com
[07:23] <Fujitsu> Why do you want konsole?
[07:23] <jbritz22> well, ill just install kde and use kde
[07:23] <wd3> hey guys i upgraded to xubuntu and today when i logged on my default "mouse icon xfce" background is gone and gnome brown is on how can i get that back or install new background?
[07:23] <tritium> jbritz22: if you do that, might as well get kubuntu-desktop, then
[07:23] <jbritz22> yeah
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> ah okay this is much better -- am not juggling between two computers now.
[07:24] <intelikey> so much fro small then   :)
[07:24] <||David||> ok... here's an odd problem.  i can connect to a certain ftp site with any client but can't connect with nautilus... i can also connect to any other ftp site with nautilus.  what the heck could be going on?
[07:24] <jbritz22> can I use apt-get?
[07:24] <AngryElf> fyrestrtr so where to begin
[07:24] <intelikey> yep
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> okay -- what is your server running?
[07:24] <intelikey> jbritz22 sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:24] <chris> ok now how do i instal java
[07:24] <CMonK> the new kernel upgrade <IP_ADDRESS> does not install properly...
[07:24] <tritium> !java
[07:24] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:24] <wd3> intelikey thanks for the help yesterday, hey guys i upgraded to xubuntu and today when i logged on my default "mouse icon xfce" background is gone and gnome brown is on how can i get that back or install new background?
[07:25] <sfar-ubu> how to type to show uptime in xchat? :)
[07:25] <tritium> CMonK: what do you mean?
[07:25] <AngryElf> fyrestrtr, pm
[07:25] <RemyLaptop> !sdl
[07:25] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RemyLaptop
[07:25] <jbritz22> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[07:25] <RemyLaptop> anyone know what SDL is ?
[07:25] <RemyLaptop> I'm getting errors about it...
[07:25] <tritium> jbritz22: sudo apt-get update first
[07:25] <RemyLaptop> thinking I might not have the latest version
[07:25] <jbritz22> just did
[07:25] <jbritz22> and then I did that
[07:26] <tritium> RemyLaptop: did you install it from the repositories?
[07:26] <Fujitsu> SDL is Simple DirectMedia Layer...
[07:26] <intelikey> wd3 maybe ask again without starting with my nick so others who know might notice you.
[07:26] <wd3> sure
[07:26] <brennan> how do i install VLC?
[07:26] <chris> is there anything else i need to know about installing java
[07:26] <tritium> jbritz22: it's in main, so you should find it, unless your /etc/apt/sources.list is only setup for your cdrom
[07:26] <CMonK> the linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-386 package points to /lib/evms but this does not exist... lib/evms2.XXX does.
[07:26] <wd3> hey guys i upgraded to xubuntu and today when i logged on my default "mouse icon xfce" background is gone and gnome brown is on how can i get that back or install new background?
[07:26] <intelikey> brennan sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:26] <||David||> ok... here's an odd problem.  i can connect to a certain ftp site with any client but can't connect with nautilus... i can also connect to any other ftp site with nautilus.  what the heck could be going on? the ftp site i am referring to uses Microsoft FTP Server (Version 4) and it's a remote machine that I don't have access to.
[07:26] <jbritz22> how can I check that tritium
[07:27] <RemyLaptop> tritium, no idea... Just that I have a stack of games that won't work due to errors with SDL, and not having I/O port permissions...
[07:27] <tritium> jbritz22: look at your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:27] <JoeMorris> i found a comparison of easyubuntu vs automatix
[07:27] <tritium> RemyLaptop: but how did you install SDL?
[07:27] <JoeMorris> seems like easyubuntu is team driven
[07:27] <JoeMorris> Team driven. Ubuntu developer interaction
[07:27] <Fujitsu> JoeMorris, do not use Automatix!
[07:27] <JoeMorris> im not
[07:27] <RemyLaptop> no idea tritium, I don't even know what it is...
[07:27] <RemyLaptop> :-)
[07:27] <brennan> it says that it depnds on other packages, but it wont let me install them
[07:27] <JoeMorris> i googled about it
[07:27] <JoeMorris> seems like easyubuntu is nice tho
[07:28] <intelikey> jbritz22 sudo nano  /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:28] <Fujitsu> Yes.
[07:28] <Fujitsu> It is.
[07:28] <Fujitsu> Automatix is BAAAAAD.
[07:28] <jbritz22> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main $
[07:28] <Mischevious> can somone help me with this please, http://pastebin.com/613876
[07:28] <JoeMorris> fujitsu i will get it when the new ubuntu comes out
[07:28] <Fujitsu> I hope you mean EasyUbuntu, not Automatix, JoeMorris.
[07:28] <JoeMorris> yes
[07:29] <tritium> RemyLaptop: that is likely your problem, then.
[07:29] <JoeMorris> fujitsu:  fedora core 5 looks interesting tho
[07:29] <JoeMorris> as a stop gap
[07:29] <jbritz22> tritium is my sources good?
[07:29] <JoeMorris> but its RPM and bad bad bad, i like ubuntu
[07:29] <tritium> jbritz22: that's it?  no...
[07:29] <Fujitsu> JoeMorris, try using Dapper now, it's very stable...
[07:29] <jbritz22> what should it be
[07:29] <JoeMorris> fujitsu thats an idea :)
[07:30] <tritium> !tell jbritz22 about sources
[07:30] <CMonK> i will try to reboot the new kernel... this won't work... I'll be back.
[07:30] <RemyLaptop> tritium, yeah... but it's a bit hard to fix something I don't know about :-P
[07:30] <Mischevious> can somone help me with this please, http://pastebin.com/613876
[07:30] <intelikey> Mischevious libtool installed ?
[07:30] <Mischevious> intelikey, let me check
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> hey synaptic is just a front-end to apt-get right? If I enable a repository, it will be enabled in the cli apt-get as well?
[07:31] <Mischevious> intelikey, is now, should i try to compile that program again?
[07:31] <joseph> hey I'm trying to compile something and it gives an error:
[07:31] <joseph> checking for sdl-config... no
[07:31] <joseph> checking for SDL - version >= 1.2.0... no
[07:31] <intelikey> yep]
[07:31] <joseph> how do I fix that?
[07:31] <Mischevious> joseph, use pastebin.com
[07:31] <tritium> joseph: by installing the lib that you need
[07:31] <intelikey> fyrestrtr  errr to dpkg  maybe
[07:31] <joseph> how do I know what lib I need?
[07:31] <jbritz22> so I just copy and paste the resource list from there,
[07:31] <jbritz22> ?
[07:32] <joseph> how do I know what lib I need?
[07:32] <brennan> the vlc thing still isn't working
[07:32] <Mischevious> joseph, it told you which one
[07:32] <Mischevious> brennan, you looking for a video player or music?
[07:32] <brennan> video
[07:32] <joseph> sdl-config?
[07:32] <Mischevious> brennan, try totem. it's good
[07:32] <||David||> odd problem...  i can connect to a certain ftp site with any client but can't connect with nautilus... i can also connect to any other ftp site with nautilus.  what the heck could be going on? the ftp site i am referring to uses Microsoft FTP Server (Version 4) and it's a remote machine that I don't have access to.
[07:32] <wd3> hey guys i upgraded to xubuntu and today when i logged on my default "mouse icon xfce" background is gone and gnome brown is on how can i get that back or install new background?
[07:33] <intelikey> jbritz22 if it is correct code name    i.e.  breezy     or   dapper   ....    they yes.
[07:33] <tritium> wd3: please don't repeat so often
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> ||David||: first guess, passive/active mode
[07:33] <Mischevious> wd3, hit alt+f2 and type xfce4-desktop
[07:33] <brennan> where can i get plugins for it?
[07:33] <chris> ok now how do i unpack it
[07:33] <intelikey> else change the code name
[07:33] <intelikey> fi
[07:33] <JoeMorris> fujitsu:  too many linux choices that are good nowadays
[07:33] <joseph> Mischevious: I don't think it told me which one
[07:33] <||David||> fyrestrtr: and how would I change that in nautilus?
[07:33] <Mischevious> wd3, join #xfce for xfce questions.
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> ||David||: this is a good question for someone that uses nautilus :)
[07:34] <JoeMorris> suse looks nice, fedora looks nice and ubuntu, the rest imho arent that good
[07:34] <JoeMorris> years ago mandrake was good
[07:34] <joseph> hey I need help I get an error when trying to compile something:
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> gah -- how to fix invalid signature errors in apt-get ?
[07:34] <joseph> checking for sdl-config... no
[07:34] <joseph> checking for SDL - version >= 1.2.0... no
[07:34] <JoeMorris> when it was redhat with kde :P
[07:34] <tritium> joseph: please stop pasting that
[07:35] <JoeMorris> but now mandrake is really bad
[07:35] <wd3> tritium, thanks. i thought i waited long enough next time i'll wait longer.
[07:35] <tritium> thanks, wd3
[07:35] <wd3> mischevious, thank you for the help, it says no such file or directory
[07:35] <joseph> tritium: why?
[07:35] <crimsun> joseph: just install libsdl1.2-dev
[07:35] <intelikey> JoeMorris is it.  i havent tried it sense it changed to *iva
[07:36] <wd3> mischevious, i joined xubuntu and no response , i'll join xfce, thanks again
[07:36] <JoeMorris> intelikey i havent either, but the screenshots are lousy
[07:36] <JoeMorris> its not keeping pace with development
[07:37] <Xen> good evening. can someone tell me if there is a way to rip to vbr mp3 with goobox?
[07:37] <RemyLaptop> how do i force a package to re-install via apt-get ?
[07:37] <intelikey> JoeMorris screen shots.....  that makes a system great or terrable  lol
[07:37] <RemyLaptop> libsdl seems to be buggered
[07:37] <jbritz22> kubuntu desktop is 444 mb
[07:37] <jbritz22> wow
[07:37] <jbritz22> lol
[07:37] <prada> RemyLaptop: aptitude resinstall
[07:37] <intelikey> you very funny man JoeMorris
[07:37] <JoeMorris> the only 3 good ones imho are fedora, suse and ubuntu
[07:37] <damian_> hey im just wondering if i can set system monitor to a keyboard shortcut and if so how?
[07:38] <RemyLaptop> prada  will that reinstall everything ? or do I specify which ?
[07:38] <JoeMorris> the rest are all small scale projects, could be good if u want a specialized linux tho
[07:38] <prada> RemyLaptop: you'll have to specify
[07:39] <JoeMorris> i wish there was a fedora suse and ubuntu comparison of all the devel releases :P
[07:39] <Fenderet> Is there an excellent linux desktop search like "ask" or Google?
[07:39] <alteroo> beagle
[07:39] <alteroo> ?
[07:39] <jbritz22> is there a way to delete gnome after I have isntalled kdesktop, kde
[07:39] <intelikey> JoeMorris have you forgotten the largest distro ?
[07:40] <prada> Fenderet: beagle - http://beaglewiki.org/Main_Page
[07:40] <JoeMorris> intelikey:  i said fedora, suse and ubuntu
[07:40] <JoeMorris> intelikey:  Those are the largest 3
[07:40] <intelikey> and left out debian
[07:40] <Fenderet> thank you I am installing it now :)
[07:40] <intelikey> tisk tisk
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> debian
[07:41] <JoeMorris> intelikey ubuntu is based off of debian
[07:41] <JoeMorris> and has a more substantial user base nowadays
[07:41] <JoeMorris> :)
[07:41] <Xen> whats the best cd-ripping app? by best i mean able to directly rip from cd to vbr mp3
[07:41] <Mischevious> intelikey, can you help me again?
[07:41] <prada> Xen: soundjuicer should be worth a try
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> Xen: k3b or something like that.
[07:41] <intelikey> maybe. Mischevious
[07:41] <Xen> k3b rips audio?
[07:42] <CmonK> The new kernel rebooted despite the dodgy upgrade script.
[07:42] <Xen> soundjuicer... how do i add ,p3 encoding to it?
[07:42] <Mischevious> intelikey, http://pastebin.com/613882
[07:42] <andrewk> quick question, when upgrading to dapper, can I take the default actions when it tries to change my .confs and such?
[07:43] <arrinmurr> Xen: kaudiocreator is great for that, but it's a kde-program ;)
[07:43] <intelikey> Mischevious need more info.
[07:43] <Mischevious> intelikey, such as?
[07:43] <intelikey> start that copy higher up
[07:43] <Mischevious> k
[07:44] <Mischevious> http://pastebin.com/613884
[07:45] <JoeMorris> gnome 2.14 is out ehh
[07:45] <JoeMorris> nice
[07:45] <Mischevious> yea
[07:45] <RemyLaptop> hm... I seem to have buggered something up... aptitude is removing everything !
[07:45] <RemyLaptop> oops
[07:46] <JoeMorris> of the 3, suse, fedora and ubuntu which one seems to have the most financial resources?
[07:46] <ufo> JoeMorris, its alot faster than the older
[07:46] <JoeMorris> doesnt google sink money into ubuntu
[07:46] <JoeMorris> could be a tie :P
[07:46] <Mischevious> JoeMorris, no, but they have a ubuntu version they use i read that somewhere.
[07:47] <JoeMorris> mischevious google pays
[07:47] <JoeMorris> for development needs
[07:47] <CmonK> Anyone running Dapper upgrade the kernel and get the same permission errors during the install - see via the terminal.
[07:47] <JoeMorris> like $1000 if this gets fixed blah blah
[07:47] <esc_ape> I have a folder with about 800 .wma files in it. I also have a bunch of mp3 and ogg files in it. I'd like to delete all of the .wma files. what should I type into the terminal? the directory is /home/bill/Desktop/music - the .wma files are scattered within other directories within that directory. any ideas?
[07:47] <Mischevious> dunno
[07:47] <damian_> hey im just wondering if i can set system monitor to a keyboard shortcut and if so how?
[07:47] <damian_> hey im just wondering if i can set system monitor to a keyboard shortcut and if so how?
[07:47] <alteroo> can anyone preview sound files in nautilus??
[07:47] <esc_ape> I tried rm /home/bill/Desktop/music/*.wma but that didnt work
[07:47] <RemyLaptop> is there any way to force aptitude to check everything and make sure it's all up to date ?
[07:48] <JoeMorris> at least they used to
[07:48] <Mischevious> esc_ape, cd into the dir and type, sudo rm -r *.wma
[07:48] <JoeMorris> i assume they prolly still do :)
[07:48] <intelikey> Mischevious i'm not familear with that problem  but the warning it specifies may, repete may have something to do with the error in the following steps... warning: libdbus-1.so.1, needed by /usr/lib/libhal.so, may conflict./.libs/librbshell.a(rb-shell.o): In function `rb_shell_get_type'     <---  no sujestions on how to solve.  sorry.
[07:48] <RemyLaptop> hell, is there any way to basically re-install breezy on top again ?
[07:48] <Mischevious> intelikey, okay thank you sir.
[07:48] <intelikey> np
[07:49] <esc_ape> Mischevious: rm: cannot remove `*.wma': No such file or directory
[07:49] <Mischevious> esc_ape, you in the right dir?
[07:49] <intelikey> might remove hal and try.  if that is an option.  idk
[07:49] <RemyLaptop> is there any way to basically re-install breezy on top again ?
[07:49] <Mischevious> intelikey, remove in the configure or totally.
[07:49] <prada> RemyLaptop: apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[07:49] <Mischevious> libhal-dev libnautilus-burn-dev
[07:49] <Mischevious>  are together.
[07:49] <esc_ape> yes...the .wma are within the folders that are in that directory...
[07:49] <Mischevious> and rhyhymbox needs libnautilis.
[07:49] <esc_ape> does that matter?
[07:50] <Mischevious> esc_ape, yes
[07:50] <chris> i am trying to instal java i have it download and now i can lost\
[07:50] <RemyLaptop> prada, that doesn't put it all back to default..
[07:50] <Mischevious> esc_ape, cd into the dir with the files
[07:50] <Fracture> anyone here good with linux printing ?
[07:50] <CmonK> I don't know if you can go backwards.... i suppose you could reverse your respositories and try to sudo apt-get clean and then upgrade.  If it works you would be the first.  Post your results if you are game.
[07:50] <prada> RemyLaptop: then the best way is to do a clean install from a cd , I don't think there's a super stratightforward way of doing that
[07:50] <esc_ape> ok...guess I thought there would be a command that would rm all the files without having to cd into every folder (there are about 100)
[07:51] <Mischevious> can somone help esc_ape i cant' think of the command..
[07:51] <jbritz22> ok so installed kdesktop
[07:51] <Mischevious> isn't it sudo rm -r *.wma
[07:52] <Mischevious> try sudo rm -r *.wma*
[07:52] <jbritz22> now how do I use it
[07:52] <JoeMorris> fedora 5 core from the screenshots doesnt actually impress much, it looks like fedora just freshened up, i dont like it :P
[07:52] <JoeMorris> no suse screenshots
[07:52] <AngryElf> how do i change my UID?
[07:53] <esc_ape> bill@ubuntu:~/Desktop/music$ sudo rm -r *.wma*
[07:53] <esc_ape> rm: cannot remove `*.wma*': No such file or directory
[07:53] <JoeMorris> what is the suse beta now, 10.1?
[07:53] <ufo> *.wma
[07:53] <intelikey> AngryElf are you sure you want to ?
[07:53] <Mischevious> ufo, he says it doesn't work
[07:53] <Xnos> hi ... how i can close a shell connection?
[07:54] <ufo> exity
[07:54] <ufo> exit
[07:54] <AngryElf> intelikey, is it going to blow things up?
[07:54] <jbritz22> I got kdesktop intalled, do i jsut log out and then log in again to use it?
[07:54] <ufo> or ctrl+c
[07:54] <Mischevious> it works perfectly, i just did sudo rm -r *.mp3
[07:54] <Mischevious>  in a dir with mp3's and they all were deleted.
[07:54] <JoeMorris> hmmm looks like suse is kde?
[07:54] <intelikey> AngryElf yes.
[07:54] <JoeMorris> ick
[07:54] <Xnos> but if another pc is connected to my pc
[07:54] <intelikey> AngryElf well maybe not.    man usermod
[07:55] <Mischevious> does ekiga work with skype users?
[07:55] <intelikey> it's -u    but when sudo doesn't work don't blame me.     and if you set it to  0  and someone hijacks your irc and owns your system,  don't blame me.
[07:56] <esc_ape> Mischevious - yeah, that works...but not when the files are with other folders within that directory
[07:56] <esc_ape> if that makes sense :)
[07:56] <Mischevious> esc_ape, it should, since it's recursive.
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> does someone know how to upgrade the PGP keys for apt-get ?
[07:56] <Mischevious> esc_ape, dunno man, sorry.
[07:56] <paulproteus|lapt> fatehaze: BTW, did your problem get solved?
[07:56] <paulproteus|lapt> Sorry I ran out for a bit.
[07:57] <htrp> is there any way to filter ddos?
[07:57] <intelikey> -R
[07:57] <Mischevious> htrp, drop pings.
[07:57] <htrp> Mischevious, what you mean?
[07:57] <Mischevious> htrp, use firestarter and set it to drop icmp traffic
[07:57] <htrp> coz some kids on the other net are playing with me
[07:57] <jbritz22> mischevious: so I just installed kdesktop do I just reboot to get it running?
[07:57] <Mischevious> jbritz22, kde ?
[07:57] <jbritz22> yeah
[07:58] <Mischevious> jbritz22, yea, in the login screen go to session and select KDE
[07:58] <jbritz22> ok
[07:58] <jbritz22> brb
[07:58] <Mischevious> jbritz22, dont' reboot
[07:58] <Mischevious> jbritz22, wait
[07:58] <Mischevious> jbritz22, just hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:58] <Mischevious> damn it
[07:58] <intelikey> jbritz22 no reboot.
[07:58] <Mischevious> man, sorry i wasn't thinkin
[07:58] <Mischevious> ..
[07:58] <intelikey> just logout
[07:58] <Mischevious> too late
[07:58] <Mischevious> :\
[07:58] <Mischevious> i guess we are even since i did help him fix a host problem earlier :-P
[07:58] <paulproteus|lapt> fyrestrtr: In Synaptic's gui for authentication there's a button to add the default ones back.
[07:58] <intelikey> no... not reboot
[07:59] <intelikey> this is not  Micro_Reboot windows.   wish people would remember that.
[07:59] <esc_ape> what is the location of the trash directory?
[08:00] <intelikey> Desktop/trash
[08:00] <CmonK> ~/.trash - I think.
[08:00] <intelikey> on some desktops that is.
[08:00] <CmonK> Ctl-h on nautilus will show hidden dirs.
[08:00] <intelikey> it is desktop dependant
[08:01] <esc_ape> yeah ~/.trash is it
[08:01] <intelikey> seems like /tmp/.$UID.trash  on something i saw.
[08:02] <gnu_style> how do I tell ubuntu to install on a logical drive?
[08:02] <RemyLaptop> !easyubuntu
[08:02] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[08:02] <intelikey> as opposed to illogical ones ?
[08:03] <intelikey> gnu_style ntfs ?
[08:04] <fyrestrtr> paulproteus|lapt: what's the cmd line way to do it?
[08:04] <woodwizzle> any gamers in here?\
[08:04] <gnu_style> fat32@sda1 sda5 sda5 ext3@sda6 swap@sda7
[08:05] <gnu_style> ohh i mean: fat32@sda1 sda5 sda6 ext3@sda7 swap@sda8
[08:05] <Disorganized> anyone know of a command line mp3 tagger?
[08:05] <intelikey> gnu_style so / is sda7   right ?
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> paulproteus|lapt: can you repeat that please? my screen blanked.
[08:06] <IamEthos> hey, I was just running Ubuntu live. I was able to successfully write files to my ext3 partition
[08:06] <Disorganized> n/m, found one
[08:07] <IamEthos> however sometimes it wouldn't let me write
[08:07] <paulproteus|lapt> fyrestrtr: I never answered. (-:
[08:07] <gnu_style> root in sda6
[08:07] <IamEthos> and I'm not sure why it would at one point and not at another
[08:07] <gnu_style> ohh sory again
[08:07] <gnu_style> root is sda7
[08:08] <paulproteus|lapt> fyre... rat.
[08:08] <paulproteus|lapt> was going to answer, too.
[08:08] <gnu_style> hello?
[08:08] <cerebrix> anyone running dapper and amarok in gnome having any wierd problems like being unable to close the eq or visual or script manager once you get them open?
[08:09] <intelikey> yeah gnu_style when it comes to the partitioning stage of the install you tell it manual  and select that partition and set it to use as  /
[08:09] <intelikey> finish partitioning and continue the installation
[08:10] <gnu_style> it will not touch my winxp partition? were do I install the bootloader? in sda7?
[08:10] <Mischevious> does anyone here use ekiga, or gnome meeting
[08:10] <Mischevious> any sip program?
[08:10] <gnu_style> i dont want to overwrite my MBR
[08:10] <intelikey> mbr
[08:11] <jbritz22> ok
[08:11] <jbritz22> that fucked
[08:11] <jbritz22> up
[08:11] <intelikey> gnu_style why not ?
[08:11] <jbritz22> my entire
[08:11] <jbritz22> thing
[08:11] <jbritz22> lol
[08:11] <jbritz22> mischevious: i logged out, and couldnt log back in, so I just did a failsafe and typed in gaim
[08:11] <Mischevious> jbritz22, okay
[08:12] <jbritz22> mischevious: so now what do I do, I cant log into either KDE nor gnome, kde gives me a bunch of errors, like, cant write to some file, and gnome says your sessions has lasted less than 10 seconds
[08:12] <Mischevious> jbritz22, do a failsafe terminal and type
[08:13] <intelikey> jbritz22 nice.  you found a bug.   now do a chown ?:? /home/? -R     where ? us your user name.  and try again.
[08:13] <Mischevious> sudo rm -r /home/user/.ICEauthority
[08:13] <Mischevious> what did he do?
[08:13] <tritium> Mischevious: language (above)
[08:13] <intelikey> Mischevious didn't he change uid ?
[08:13] <Mischevious> that wasn't him
[08:13] <Mischevious> he doesn't know how to change a diaper.
[08:14] <Mischevious> let alone a uid
[08:14] <intelikey> but if it is just root owner of *auth* owning it will still fix it Mischevious
[08:14] <Mischevious> i'm not sure..
[08:14] <jbritz22> yeahthe ice authority thing was messed up mischevious
[08:14] <Mischevious> i figured it was
[08:14] <Mischevious> happend to me a few times
[08:14] <Mischevious> anyone here use ekiga?
[08:15] <intelikey> yeah i've been there.  locked out of my own home.
[08:15] <cuen> is ekiga like skype?
[08:15] <jbritz22> mischevious: what did you do to fix it?