[11:37] <sebsebseb> ubuntu51: in a way it's a bit silly to put  the old GDM  on in Karmic, in my opinion anyway,  may as well just use KDM instead, oh and sure that can get themed, I just have never bothered myself
[11:37] <rww> MauritianGuy: typing "/join #ubuntu-offtopic" doesn't work?
[11:37] <MauritianGuy> man ubottu  is a realy good bot
[11:37] <Dr_Willis_> set auto login,.  :) gdm just blinks and logs in
[11:37] <syockit> MauritianGuy: please register your nick
[11:37] <ubuntu51> kdmgdm is really working in my new ubuntu? what do u think
[11:37] <MauritianGuy> i did not put the - inbetween lol
[11:37] <syockit> oh
[11:37] <MauritianGuy> i am der
[11:38] <PFA> hey, what's the name of the gnome power monitor thing?
[11:38] <sebsebseb> ubuntu51: I don't understand
[11:38] <ubuntu51> kdm
[11:38] <hiexpo> daughter20
[11:38] <luisgmarine> Hello
[11:38] <skiller> hi
[11:39] <ubuntu51> is really work in karmic
[11:39] <MauritianGuy> oh syockit  i think i did register my nick
[11:39] <coz_> ubuntu51,   are you on KDE?
[11:39] <ubuntu51> no
[11:39] <ubuntu51> gnomw
[11:39] <ubuntu51> gnome
[11:39] <sebsebseb> ubuntu51: you  can try KDM, if you don't like it you can switch back to  the new GDM, or try using the old one.   plus KDM can be themed.   Only thing is KDM is a KDE app meaning it will want to put on quite a few things.
[11:39] <luisgmarine> I'm running Kubuntu and after my computer restarted, I can't change my resolution back to 1920 x 1080, and I'm stuck using this 420 x 300
[11:39] <falcongaze> hi
[11:39] <sebsebseb> ubuntu51: if you haven't installed KDE stuff into Ubuntu/Gnome before
[11:39] <MauritianGuy> sup coz_
[11:39] <PFA> okay, never mind that, but how do i get to the equivalent of "run" in windows?
[11:39] <hiexpo> got a prob here i can not figure out with tucan manager was booting now i goofed it
[11:39] <coz_> ubuntu51, oh  ok... well  I like kde's login screen but  gdm is fine
[11:39] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  hey guy :)
[11:39] <syockit> PFA: alt-f2
[11:40] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  so did that work for you?
[11:40] <PFA> syockit: thanks
[11:40] <sebsebseb> coz_: well GDM 2 isn't  when people want to theme it like the old one, such as this person
[11:40] <coz_> sebsebseb,  but is not hard to do
[11:40] <sebsebseb> coz_: I wanted to do that, but KDM is fine for me
[11:40] <coz_> sebsebseb,  although you only get colour changes
[11:40] <coz_> with gdm
[11:40] <sebsebseb> coz_: exactly only colour changes, not a proper theme, which is what people want
[11:41] <coz_> sebsebseb,  believe me I understand
[11:41] <luisgmarine> can anyon ehelp me change my resolution, It reset to a lower one and wont allow me to make changes
[11:41] <ubuntu51> what do u think
[11:41] <MauritianGuy> i didn't work coz_ there is an error with th3e letc/init.d/gdm stop part
[11:41] <ubuntu51> kdm is compatible to gnome
[11:41] <sebsebseb> ubuntu51: yes
[11:41] <ubuntu51> ok
[11:41] <sebsebseb> ubuntu51: you can log into Ubuntu/Gnome using KDM
[11:41] <ubuntu51> i try
[11:41] <coz_> MauritianGuy, mm   then you might have  to replace that with   service  gdm stop
[11:41] <MauritianGuy> coz_,  i got an error no such file or directory
[11:42] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  for which the nvidia driver package?
[11:42] <sebsebseb> ubuntu51: when you install it, and it asks which to use, remember to put KDM
[11:42] <MauritianGuy> 190.53
[11:42] <hiexpo> hmm
[11:42] <Dr_Willis_> 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm' :) will make it ask if you want to change back
[11:43] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis_: yeah that I guess, or  ubuntu51 could uninstall it
[11:43] <eliof> eliof
[11:43] <Parsi> hwo can I reconfigute NetworkManager?
[11:43] <Parsi> *how
[11:43] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  I was afraid of that...for some reason some karmic systems are still using   "service  gdm  stop  or start or restart"   here it has reverted back to  /etc/init.d/gdm
[11:43] <Parsi> .networkmanager
[11:44] <Parsi> !networkmanager
[11:44] <skiller> some one uses bactrack??
[11:44] <Dr_Willis_> skiller:  they giot their own support channel
[11:44] <MauritianGuy> i am not sure what u mean coz_
[11:44] <nastas> hi all
[11:44] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  ok the part I mentione that uses  /etc/init.d/gdm  stop   can be replace by      service gdm stop
[11:44] <syockit> Parsi: umm don't know if it will work: sudo service network-manager restart
[11:45] <coz_> MauritianGuy, so instead of   /etc/init.d/gdm stop  use        service gdm stop
[11:45] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  the rest of the  instructions should be the same
[11:46] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  also after you do the     sudo -i       you dont need to use sudo any longer   just type in the commands
[11:46] <MauritianGuy> so i just use service gdm stop as a command
[11:46] <MauritianGuy> kool
[11:46] <MauritianGuy> i'll just try that now coz the driver is still uninstall is that kool
[11:46] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  yes where I said to use   /etc/init.d/gdm stop  you will now use     service  gdm stop   instead
[11:46] <Dr_Willis_> its a GOOD idea to get in the habbit of using the 'service' command
[11:47] <Dr_Willis_> forget about /etc/init.d/XXXXXX
[11:47] <coz_> Dr_Willis_,  no longer works on this clean install
[11:47] <ectospasm> I'm SOOOO glad Debian/Ubuntu decided to add the service command!
[11:47] <brijith> Hello friends ,Evolution can not connect to Gmail behind a  proxy server
[11:48] <Dr_Willis_> ectospasm:  But im not sure hiow it compares to the simallery named command in other disrtos. :)
[11:48] <MauritianGuy> how do i know if it worked coz_
[11:48] <ectospasm> brijith: is that a question or a statement
[11:48] <coz_> MauritianGuy,  you wont get an error :)
[11:48] <ectospasm> Dr_Willis_: from my limited usage of it in Ubuntu, it seems the same... not sure about chkconfig though.
[11:48] <MauritianGuy> kool than i got like a list of weird stuff i guess it worked then
[11:49] <coz_> I know that on this system ...after several updates....service gdm   no longer works   only /etc/init.d/gdm
[11:49] <brijith> ectospasm: I can not connect to Gmail using Evolution mail client, Please help ... I am using proxy server in access Internet
[11:49] <ectospasm> brijith: I don't know Evolution, sorry.  Can you access Gmail with a web browser?
[11:50] <Parsi> syockit: network-manager start/running, process 6674
[11:51] <brijith> ectospasm: YEs I can access gmail through browser
[11:52] <ectospasm> brijith: using the proxy?
[11:52] <brijith> ectospasm: yes
[11:52] <hiexpo> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'AnonymousDownload'
[11:52] <brijith> ectospasm: I can see prosy settings in evolution
[11:52] <brijith> ectospasm: but it is not working even if I set those settings
[11:53] <ectospasm> brijith: I dunno, I don't use Evolution
[11:53] <brijith> ectospasm: ok no problem
[11:54] <brijith> I can not connect to Gmail using Evolution mail client, Please help ... I am using proxy server for access Internet
[11:55] <syockit> Parsi: so do you have the network interface managed yet?
[11:55] <Parsi> syockit: no, and I don't know how to
[11:55] <luisgmarine> hello guys.  After I restarted my computer, I'm stuck in a 640x480 resolution.  But going through the menues I can't seem to change it back, any suggestions?
[11:57] <syockit> Parsi: was it like that all along, or did it just suddenly become like that?
[11:57] <helboy> ubuntu hungary?
[11:58] <LjL> !hu
[11:58] <helboy> hungary chat?
[11:58] <brontosaurusrex> easy way to browse win network in xubuntu?
[11:58] <Parsi> syockit: yes, all the time since 9.10
[11:58] <bazhang> helboy, #ubuntu-hu
[11:58] <mondoshawan> hey all ... is there a texteditor who can read cryptet files ... ex: i have a textfile and with pgp i have now a textfil.pgp    now it would be cool that one editor asksme for password and schows me the textfile
[11:59] <luisgmarine> can anyone help me reset nvidia settings?
[12:00] <Dr_Willis_> luisgmarine:  you could move/rename your /etc/X11/xorg.conf I think if the settingsd are in there.
[12:00] <upgrayedd> how do get another channel??
[12:00] <Dr_Willis_> upgrayedd:   /join #funstuff
[12:00] <upgrayedd> kay thanks
[12:00] <ectospasm> what's in #funstuff
[12:00] <ectospasm> ?
[12:00] <luisgmarine> Dr_Willis_, yeah still can't explain why my settings changed after a darn reboot
[12:01] <upgrayedd> how do search for channels?
[12:01] <ectospasm> upgrayedd: /list, and then duck.
[12:01] <Dr_Willis_> !channels
[12:01] <upgrayedd> thanx
[12:01] <luisgmarine> screw this I'm just going to re-install
[12:02] <Dr_Willis_> luisgmarine:  sounds like windows training kicking in! :)
[12:02] <Dr_Willis_> luisgmarine:  what got changed exactly?
[12:02] <luisgmarine> Dr_Willis_, my resolution.  It's stuck at 640x480 and I can't change it
[12:03] <Dr_Willis_> luisgmarine:  that sounds like the nvidia drivers got broken or somthing
[12:03] <yofel> Ubuntu User Day starting now: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays
[12:03] <luisgmarine> Dr_Willis_, yeah going to try to re-install them
[12:03] <Flannel> yofel: Please don't advertise here.  #ubuntu-offtopic is appropriate, #ubuntu isn't.  Thanks
[12:03] <luisgmarine> Dr_Willis_, I find KDE harder to use than GNOme for some reason.  They don't have an easy option to re-install like they do in synaptic
[12:03] <yofel> Flannel: ok, sorry
[12:05] <e3p3rry> #join ubuntu-classroom
[12:06] <hiexpo> having a problem with tucan manager http://pastebin.com/m626df794
[12:06] <domenico__> ciao ragà, sono nuovo
[12:06] <ubuntu51> any easy way to change login screen in karmic
[12:06] <Batduck1969> #ubuntu-classroom
[12:07] <domenico__> ma qui siete italiani?
[12:07] <ubuntu51> i can't change my login screen
[12:07] <ubuntu51> i can't install old gdm
[12:07] <ubuntu51> what i can do to change login screen
[12:07] <domenico__> Who is italian here?
[12:07] <rww> ubottu: it | domenico__
[12:07] <coz_> ubuntu51,    gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties    choose the theme  then reboot
[12:08] <domenico__> ok grazie
[12:08] <jiohdi> anyone know why UNR cannot connect to ubuntu one... says that a newer version of the server is needed?
[12:08] <neil_d> My raid1 setup doesn't appear to be correct... when I remove a HDD initramfs doesn't start the raid as degraded :(  it leaves the only HDD as a spare :(  what can I do about this?
[12:08] <swiftarrow> Hi!  I installed 9.10 on my Inspiron 1100, and now it's hanging a lot.  How can I fix it?
[12:09] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: is there anything in /var/log/messages which may indicate the problem?
[12:09] <hiexpo> swiftarrow, - did you update
[12:09] <Ven]n> hi
[12:10] <Ven]n> how do I skip the network manager asking for password for keyring to connect to wifi?
[12:10] <swiftarrow> hiexpo, I did a fresh install
[12:10] <saftsack> hey, how can i reinitialize alsa? i have a new soundcard but all configuration files are for the old one :(
[12:10] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, I'll take a look
[12:10] <hiexpo> i tried that and rm -r it
[12:10] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, what should I look for?
[12:11] <coz_> saftsack,  I think    /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[12:11] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: I'd look for any kernel panics, or any other message just prior to a restart.
[12:11] <hiexpo> oh sorry was talking about somrthing else
[12:11] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: the exact form is variable.
[12:11] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: this also assumes that /var/log/messges captures the problem )-;
[12:12] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, I'm booting it right now
[12:12] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: I'd recommend using vim (VIMproved) to look at the logs, for syntax highlighting (vim -R /var/log/messages)
[12:12] <ubuntu51> can't enabled to locate
[12:13] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, will it still be there after a boot?
[12:13] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: it should be... it's dmesg that gets wiped on boot
[12:14] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: many times problems like this don't show up in /var/log/messages, so this really is a shot in the dark.
[12:14] <saftsack> coz_, i did a reboot but i cant run alsamixer as root
[12:14] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, I have messages and messages.1, which one?
[12:14] <coz_> mm
[12:14] <saftsack> modules are loaded correctly (emu10k1)
[12:14] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: messages will be the most recent
[12:16] <do0ob> hi
[12:16] <do0ob> is there anything like this for gnome?  http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=118823&file1=118823-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=Leo-like-bespin+pack
[12:17] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, I can't find where it must have frozen...
[12:18] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, I see a lot of "Unable to read EDID bloc." errors
[12:18] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: I'd find where syslog restarts (go to the end of the file and work up), and see if you find any clues just above that.  This is not an exact science, so there
[12:18] <hiexpo> having a problem with tucan manager http://pastebin.com/m626df794
[12:18] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: I'm not sure what those are, are those in some kernel module?
[12:19] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, i guess, it says "Username kernel: numbers: i2c-adapter itc-0: unable to read EDID block"
[12:20] <hat> hi all! does anybody know if there is an ext3 build of ubuntu 9.10? i'm having problems with ext4.. :(
[12:20] <neil_d> if I have a raid1 setup mounted as "/"... and I unplug a drive (when off).. shouldn't the computer still boot?
[12:20] <Vincent_k> why isnt acpi-cpufreq present in karmic
[12:21] <ectospasm> hmmm, you've got a problem with i2c... that's not good.
[12:21] <Vincent_k> the module
[12:21] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: ^^^
[12:21] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, pardon my ignorance... what's i2c?
[12:21] <Vincent_k> i have a centrino notebook
[12:21] <Dr_Willis_> hat:  you could tell the installer/partiomner to use ext3 if you wanted to
[12:22] <hat> Dr_Willis_: how would i do that? i'm not really familiar with messing with the partitions manually..
[12:22] <ectospasm> i2c (I squared C) is a signaling protocol on your motherboard, used for things like temperature sensors
[12:22] <Vincent_k> the funny thing is that the scaling applet in ubuntu seem to scale without any acpi module loaded
[12:22] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: ^^^
[12:22] <Dr_Willis_> hat:  just make some ext3 partitons and tell the installer to mount them as / and /home if you wanted both.
[12:23] <ekpyrotic> Hey guys need a hand, I'm instlling Ubuntu to a USB, how big should the USB be?
[12:23] <hat> Dr_Willis_: how would i do that?!
[12:23] <Dr_Willis_> hat:  dont forget to make a swap partition also.
[12:23] <Dr_Willis_> hat:  the installer has a partioner tool. time to check it out.. or use gparted befor starting the installer.
[12:24] <arand_> ekpyrotic: As in a liveUSB, persisten or a normal diskinstall.. on a stick?
[12:24] <Dr_Willis_> hat:   the custom partioning   option in the installer lets you select where to mouint things
[12:24] <hat> Dr_Willis_: ok thanks very much..
[12:24] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: you may want to scour Launchpad to see if anyone has filed a bug on it
[12:25] <Vincent_k> anyone? what modules do you use?
[12:25] <iflema> hat problem with ubuntu and ext4 or with another distro accessing ubuntus ext4?
[12:25] <ekpyrotic> I assum I can install liveUSB from the disk, right? So, liveUSB. I can install software?
[12:25] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, ok.  I'm looking through messages to see if anything else looks suspect
[12:26] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: using vim will really help, because downright errors will show up in red
[12:26] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: "aptitude -y install vim" if you haven't already
[12:26] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, ok, thanks! I'll get vim then
[12:30] <johntramp> hi.
[12:30] <ekpyrotic> Questions about LiveUSB: will I be able to install software from the software centre (I can't do that just booting from disc).
[12:30] <johntramp> is there a way to have make a notification even triggered by anther machine on the network
[12:30] <ectospasm> ekpyrotic: I think you can, you need to make sure you've got enough room on the USB thumb drive though
[12:31] <johntramp> is it libnotify which shows up when i change from power to battery for eg
[12:31] <Craig_Dem> libnotify provides the notifications on the desktop, yes,
[12:32] <johntramp> ok
[12:32] <ekpyrotic> ectoplasm, if I buy a 6gb usb will that be adaquate?
[12:32] <johntramp> so is there a way to broadcast an event on the network to show up on libnotify
[12:32] <ajhavery> could you suggest a mp3 player for kde
[12:32] <ajhavery> ?
[12:32] <johntramp> amarok
[12:33] <ajhavery> amarok can't import from    other filesysytems on the hard drive
[12:33] <ajhavery> i have windows 7 installed on one partition and my music collection is in windows
[12:33] <SwianX> rythmbox
[12:33] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, does it only sho errors on /var/messages?
[12:34] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, I'm browsing /media/KING/messages
[12:34] <swiftarrow> and it's all one color
[12:34] <ajhavery> so i want a mp3 player which could import media libraray from windows
[12:34] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: what, vim?   Anyone know how i can get rid of this: E: grub-pc: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[12:34] <viliny> E: grub2: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured - it comes up every time i install something :/
[12:34] <ectospasm> swiftarrow: and ":syntax on"
[12:35] <swiftarrow> unknown option: messages
[12:35] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, ^^^
[12:35] <ajhavery> thanx
[12:35] <Igramul> Hi, on http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/asterisk-chan-capi I can see that CAPI support for the asterisk PBX needs asterisk 1.4. However, that is not available. Is there somewhere CAPI support for the current asterisk version (i.e. 1.6)?
[12:36] <ajhavery> bur rythmbox works well on gnome
[12:36] <ajhavery> does it perorm well on kde also?
[12:36] <Dynetrekk> hi, any filezilla users here? I have problems connecting to a server, and I suspect filezilla tries to use FTP rather than SFTP... how can I make sure it uses sftp?
[12:36] <SwianX> I don't use kde so I don't know
[12:36] <SwianX> but give it a try
[12:36] <supernapalm> hey I'm pretty much at a dead end, is anyone here familiar with Usenet? Specificaly Newshosting
[12:37] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, got it.  setfiletype messages
[12:37] <ajhavery> ok
[12:37] <rt2570> hi anybody got any luck with an wifi usb stick with rt2570 chipset ... I tried all kinds of howto's and ndiswrapper stuff etc ...
[12:37] <Igramul> supernapalm, do You want to host a nntp server?
[12:37] <Tayl> Dynetrekk: Go to the site manager and configure it to SFTP ther.
[12:37] <rt2570> .
[12:37] <Tayl> there.*
[12:37] <Dynetrekk> Tayl: what do you mean by "site manager"? is it a setting in filezilla?
[12:37] <supernapalm> I have really bad downloading speeds, my average is supposed to be 600kbps but it's 30kbps MAX right now...
[12:38] <Tayl> Dynetrekk: File >> Site Manager
[12:38] <rt2570> I got ubuntu 9.10 it works sometimes and sometimes it justs disconnects ? it's a sweex lc100060 usb stick
[12:38] <swiftarrow> ectospasm, it's just coloured stuff... all the numbers are read, but no whole lines. Even the ones that I told you about.
[12:38] <Tayl> Dynetrekk: Create a new site connection profile to the FTP/SFTP you're trying to connect to.
[12:39] <Tayl> Dynetrekk: Just be sure to change the servertype to SFTP.
[12:39] <Dynetrekk> Tayl: I'll look into it, thanks.
[12:39] <Tayl> Dynetrekk: You're welcome.
[12:40] <supernapalm> downloading things through my browser is fine, but the Usenet thing is god awfuly slow, using Alt Binz as the program
[12:40] <supernapalm> I've tried the alt ports that Newshosting suggests but no difference
[12:41] <supernapalm> am I better off going to another channel that deals with newsgroups? I have no clue where to get my problem answered, and Newshosting is taking ages to reply to my email
[12:42] <JHPryke> Hey, im trying to install the beta version for my graphics driver, its a .run file so i type in sudo sh ~/Desktop/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-195.30-pkg1.run.... it loads up fine but says i need to kill X Server to install, any thoughts on this?
[12:43] <llutz> !info lxde-common
[12:43] <sebsebseb> supernapalm: ##networking  ##linux  maybe I don't know
[12:43] <Xfact> can anyone tell me what is gnome display manager?
[12:43] <sebsebseb> supernapalm: maybe even #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:43] <llutz> Xfact: gdm, the graphical "login-manager"
[12:44] <Xfact>  llutz: updating gdm to the latest is important?
[12:44] <supernapalm> well I'll give it a try, I'm trying to download a 16gb file(s) and 30kbps speed isn't gonna cut it for me lol
[12:44] <girirken> Having problem with flash player in youtube. Ubuntu Karmic, FF 3.5.7, flash 10,0,42,34 installed. Clicking on any button doesnt work, flash becomes unresponsive. Only reloading all the pages (and sometimes restarting FF) fix this.
[12:44] <sebsebseb> Xfact: the default log in screen for Ubuntu, which version of Ubuntu are you on?
[12:44] <Xfact> sebsebseb: 9.10
[12:44] <girirken> It happens after using youtube a few times, the problem doesnt happen right away.
[12:45] <sebsebseb> girirken: ah yes Firefox Flash issues's you can try another browser that uses the same Flash such as galeon and Epiphany (sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser
[12:45] <sebsebseb> )
[12:45] <Xfact> after updating gdm my computer is getting inaccessible :(
[12:45] <Dynetrekk> Tayl: worked great, thanks!
[12:45] <girirken> sebsebseb: so its a known issue?
[12:45] <Tr1n_> girken:  I'm on Karmic, my flash shound disappears in all browsers after a random amount of time
[12:45] <Tayl> Dynetrekk: Glad to be of help =)
[12:45] <sebsebseb> girirken: yes Firefox Flash issues are quite known in Ubuntu,  since Flash is closed source and so on
[12:46] <sebsebseb> girirken: there's also Gnash and Swfdec as alternatives, but might not be good enough for your Flash useage
[12:46] <Xfact> anyone can help on gdm?
[12:46] <girirken> oh I see... well maybe i'll have a look then, thanks
[12:46] <sebsebseb> Xfact: not sure, but you could use KDM instead for example :)
[12:46] <sebsebseb> Xfact: ,but you now can't log in using GDM?
[12:47] <girirken> oh also on another topic, can anyone tell me about, if in the login screen, I choose console login... how in the world can I go back to kdm/gdm/etc ?
[12:47] <JHPryke> How would i disable X-Server, so i can run my graphics driver install?
[12:48] <sebsebseb> girirken: probably some other way as well, but turn the computer off and on again?
[12:48] <girirken> yes i know it but its gotta be another way
[12:48] <Xfact> After updating gdm, at the position of login screen, everything is flickering (monitor or my keyboard, mouse, and cup lights...!) horribly!
[12:48] <TeLLuS> girirken: exit  ?
[12:48] <girirken> running startx or anyth like that doesnt solve it because it enters with my user already
[12:49] <sebsebseb> Xfact: ok
[12:49] <sebsebseb> Xfact: can you log into Ubuntu from GDM though?
[12:49] <Xfact> so I am currently using the older version of gdm and it's working fairly..yet
[12:49] <girirken> TeLLuS: exit just goes to the console login
[12:49] <iflema> girirken im assuming your on 64bit? http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html extract and put it in /home/[whatever]/.mozilla/plugins mae the folder plugins yoursel if does not exist..mozilla in a
[12:49] <girirken> iflema: nope, 32bit
[12:49] <TeLLuS> girirken: Did you wait a few seconds?
[12:49] <sebsebseb> Xfact: using the older version of GDM is a bit silly in my opinion, since KDM is good and can be installed and used from the repo :)
[12:50] <llutz> JHPryke: sudo service gdm stop
[12:50] <girirken> TeLLuS: well actually i use ctrl+d to exit but its the same right
[12:50] <iflema> girirken ooo. sorry
[12:50] <TeLLuS> girirken: Yes. Is gdm or kdm still running?
[12:50] <JHPryke> Thank you sir
[12:50] <Xfact> sebsebseb: ubuntu is gdm based, kdm will not harm it?
[12:50] <girirken> TeLLuS: no its not running
[12:50] <Xfact> I mean gnome based
[12:50] <sebsebseb> Xfact: it's a KDE app, meaning if you haven't installed those before, it will want to put a bit of KDE stuff on
[12:50] <llutz> Xfact: you also can use slim or xdm
[12:50] <girirken> i think i have to try it
[12:50] <girirken> ok let me try it
[12:51] <sebsebseb> Xfact: llutz  there's slim ,but that's not in the repo, and apparnatly  xdm isn't that good
[12:51] <ectospasm> xdm is fugly
[12:51] <llutz> sebsebseb: what do you miss with xdm?
[12:51] <TeLLuS> girirken: Then start it with.. sudo service gdm/kdm start
[12:51] <sebsebseb> llutz: I haven't used it properly,  I think I had it enabled once  in Ubuntu or a vm or whatever can't quite remember
[12:52] <Xfact> well, finally I question is xdm, kdm, gdm theses apps are not that important to update?
[12:52] <sebsebseb> llutz: pretty sure someone told me on IRC that it wasn't that good though,  or something like that
[12:52] <Xfact> *my
[12:52] <llutz> sebsebseb: so FUD, thx
[12:52] <sebsebseb> llutz: it's more limiting in what it can do than GDM and KDM or something like that
[12:52] <ectospasm> llutz: last I used xdm, it still used Motif
[12:52]  * ectospasm shudders
[12:52] <SirNothus> Hmm, I think I broke update-grub
[12:52] <llutz> sebsebseb: it does what it was developed for: manage user-logins
[12:53] <kraut> moin
[12:53] <fwaokda> anyone here know how I can install the sdk to ubuntu 9.10 through terminal? I don't want eclipse btw
[12:53] <sebsebseb> Xfact: just get the security updates from the Ubuntu repo, and useually you will be fine
[12:53] <sebsebseb> Xfact: well the updates you get are only security updates,  or useually only security updates
[12:53] <setuid> How do I play ASF video (in a .wmv file)? xine, mplayer, vlc don't do it after installing all of the available codecs
[12:54] <sebsebseb> !medibuntu | setuid
[12:54] <Xfact> well, it would be awesome if ubuntu has any 'system restore' or that kind of apps, that helps to put everything in previous state before the error occurs.. (these is a nice feature of windows)
[12:54] <llutz> ectospasm: who cares
[12:54] <sebsebseb> setuid: think something in medibuntu for that
[12:54] <SirNothus> I don't think it should run for over 1 minute at 90% CPU, and I don't think my menu.lst file should be 3MB in size..
[12:54] <ectospasm> llutz: like I said, it's fugly.  Matter of taste, really
[12:54] <ectospasm> It's got the same basic functionality of gdm and kdm
[12:54] <ectospasm> ...may be more or less configurable, I'm not sure.
[12:56] <llutz> ectospasm: as i said: it manages user-logins, not more not less. so it might be an alternative to those, who do not need all that pointless fancy graphics-foo
[12:56] <sebsebseb> llutz: KDM is also much  more used  than xdm by Ubuntu users, so probably  another reason why it's better to recommend KDM
[12:57] <sebsebseb> llutz: altough if someone said that about  xchat  and Konversation,  saying xchat would be better to recommend, beause it's more used than Konversation,   I woudn't agree
[12:57] <llutz> sebsebseb: i won't recommend kdm to people not using KDE
[12:57] <hyperstream> Gnome is fine :)
[12:57]  * SirNothus recommends Slackware
[12:58] <sebsebseb> llutz: I think recommending KDM is fine, as long as it's made clear to them, that it will put on other KDE stuff and quite a bit of it, if they haven't installed KDE apps into Ubuntu/Gnome before
[12:59] <sebsebseb> hyperstream: well that new GDM 2 isn't for quite a lot of us
[13:00] <ranjan> hello every body .. does any body know how to apply patch ... on xserver
[13:00] <ranjan> as
[13:00] <setuid> sebsebseb, Thanks for the link... however, nothing in medibuntu plays asf ither
[13:00] <setuid> s/ither/either/
[13:00] <ranjan> the path that is avilable on http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/08/17/gnome-power-manager-and-blanking-removal-of-bodges/
[13:00] <sebsebseb> setuid: well propritary codecs
[13:00] <sebsebseb> !codecs
[13:01] <llutz> setuid: isn't asf just a file, containing a link to the "real" media-file?
[13:01] <sebsebseb> setuid: probalby something for Desktop Linux that can do it, but if not well,  you could  Wine some Windows program for it I expect
[13:02] <setuid> sebsebseb, Same thing, those codecs (in ubuntu-restricted-extras) does not include an asf codec
[13:02] <girirken> so in the login screen I opted for console login... KDM is still a process, but alt+f7 is blank. typing EXIT just goes back to the console login. How do I go back to X?
[13:02] <setuid> sebsebseb, it's a Microsoft-provided .wmv file, in an executable file, which is ASF encoded
[13:02] <acicula> asf is a container, not a codec
[13:02] <sebsebseb> setuid: by the way it's possible to do WMP under Wine
[13:02] <sebsebseb> setuid: 10 and 11 yeah
[13:02] <acicula> mplayer -playlist should be able to deal with it?
[13:02] <sebsebseb> and older
[13:04] <dayo> is this usr day?
[13:04] <sebsebseb> setuid: plus foobar2000 can play pretty much anything I think,  or is that just for music hrm, anyway you can Wine that
[13:04] <ikonia> ?
[13:04] <BlessJah> hi, i need /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop file from kubuntu/ubuntu with installed kde (has to be 9.04), could someone pastebin it?
[13:04]  * iflema hybrid theory
[13:05] <girirken> no one?
[13:05] <SirNothus> Can anyone spot the error in my grub conf file? http://www.madmonks.org/~mattw/menu.lst
[13:05] <ikonia> no one what ?
[13:05] <BlessJah> no one?
[13:05] <girirken> my problem is above
[13:05] <acicula> girirken: try logout instead of exit?
[13:05] <girirken> hmmm let me see
[13:06] <ikonia> SirNothus: what problem are you having ?
[13:06] <girirken> no logout and exit are the same
[13:06] <setuid> girirken, No they are not
[13:06] <acicula> girirken: weird
[13:06] <girirken> i just tried
[13:06] <girirken> ok let me see i'll have to leave irc wait
[13:06] <girirken> i tried on the 2nd console
[13:06] <SirNothus> ikonia: update-grub runs forever
[13:06] <acicula> is X still running?
[13:06] <lolnic_> hi, I just upgraded to 10.04 and NetworkManager isn't working properly. I suspect that it hasn't found my wireless card, what can i do?
[13:06] <sebsebseb> lolnic_: #ubuntu+1 for 10.04
[13:06] <acicula> lolnic_: ask in #ubuntu+1, lucid is not supported here
[13:07] <ikonia> SirNothus: how do you know that's a error in the menu.lst ?
[13:07] <bazhang> dayo, in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat
[13:07] <lolnic_> okay, thanks, sorry
[13:07] <SirNothus> ikonia: Umm, take a look at the file I just linked and take a wild guess ;-)
[13:07] <girirken> no, logout went back to console login
[13:07] <acicula> girirken: is X still running as a process?
[13:08] <acicula> girirken: you could try stopping and starting gdm
[13:08] <acicula> or kdm, whichever you are using
[13:08] <girirken> kdm is
[13:08] <girirken> kdm is running
[13:08] <dayo> bazhang: ok thanks
[13:08] <acicula> yeah, and is X?
[13:08] <girirken> well if the X process is called X anything, no it isnt
[13:09] <acicula> girirken: stop kdm, sudo service stop kdm
[13:09] <acicula> err service kdm stop
[13:09] <acicula> and then start it again with start
[13:10] <girirken> ok it worked but thats not very user friendly
[13:10] <girirken> was it supposed to be like this?
[13:10] <girirken> or maybe its because this is Kubuntu?
[13:10] <brontosaurusrex> easy way to browse win network in xubuntu?
[13:11] <brontosaurusrex> thunar?
[13:11] <TimeFX> I am using Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic, and I have a problem with sound in Gnome, my snd card is detected by alsa and but I only get dummy output for the sound settings in Gnome, any ideas? I ve tried various guides on the web with no avail.
[13:11] <acicula> girirken: dunno, normally people dont go from kdm to an old school console
[13:11] <sebsebseb> brontosaurusrex: If you don't get a proper answer here soon you can try #xubuntu
[13:11] <girirken> bback
[13:11] <brontosaurusrex> sebsebseb: thanks
[13:12] <sebsebseb> brontosaurusrex: np or of course just go there now and try :D
[13:12] <acicula> you'd expect that you logged out kdm is restarted though, yeh
[13:12] <wers> i just installed firefox-3.6 from the mozilla-daily ppa. can't find a way to run it though. any idea? :)
[13:13] <johntramp> what package does notify-send come from?
[13:13] <llutz> wers: alt-f2: firefox-3.6
[13:13] <acicula> johntramp: dpkg-query -S notify-send
[13:13] <wers> llutz, that's what i thought too. doesnt work though
[13:14]  * SirNothus wonders where ikonia went..
[13:14] <johntramp> acicula: i dont have it yet
[13:14] <SirNothus> Should I have mentioned that was a 3M file?
[13:14] <llutz> wers: dpkg -L firefox-3.6.... | grep bin
[13:14] <johntramp> i want to know where it is to install it
[13:15] <wers> llutz, not installed according to it. synaptic says otherwise.. hmmm
[13:15] <acicula> johntramp: then you have to use google to dig it up, googling for the term and ubuntu should land you on the right package, alternatively you can just run the command and see if a package is suggested by ubuntu
[13:15] <llutz> wers: use the real packagename
[13:15] <llutz> wers: dpkg -l firefox*|grep ^ii
[13:16] <setuid> sebsebseb, I give up... fscking Microsoft.
[13:16] <wers> llutz, looks like it's really firefox-3.6. tried sudo apt-get install too. said it's installed
[13:16] <setuid> sebsebseb, Just blogged about it: http://blog.gnu-designs.com/microsoft-is-stillpropagating-the-malware-problem
[13:17] <sebsebseb> setuid: well I gave two suggestions for maybe getting  it working, here's another,  got a feeling you won't like it much, but Windows virtual machine
[13:17] <setuid> er: http://blog.gnu-designs.com/microsoft-is-still-propagating-the-malware-problem
[13:17] <Night_Elf> hi all. I'm installing 'squeeze' on a USB via debootstrap. When it comes to grub, I get the message "can not find list of partitions".  On /boot/grub/  ( /boot is a different partition, other than / )  there's no menu.lst file. What can I do ?
[13:17] <sebsebseb> Night_Elf: #debian
[13:18] <setuid> sebsebseb, I run VMware already... just ridiculous that I have to unpack and executable to get to a .wmv file, which is ASF-encoded, which I can't play anyway
[13:18] <Night_Elf> sebsebseb: well, grub issues are the same in both, not to say identical.
[13:18] <sebsebseb> Night_Elf: maybe so, but your still on Debian so yeah #debian
[13:19] <sebsebseb> Night_Elf: however  i'll do this for you, even though you should be getting Debian support in there really
[13:19] <sebsebseb> !grub | Night_Elf
[13:19] <Night_Elf> sebsebseb: I am there. Just noone seems to either know it, either the ones who do are away :/
[13:20] <Night_Elf> !grub2
[13:22] <Mist_> Hi, I am installing ubuntu netbook remix on a Samsung NC10. Isntalling from an USB drive pen. Problem is it is taking tons of time. Editing the partition tables etc. takes 10-15 minutes seraching the partitions beteen editing them. Have I missed specify some boot install option, or is it the USB drive?
[13:22] <Night_Elf> sebsebseb: oh well. grub2 doesn't have a menu.lst
[13:23] <sebsebseb> Night_Elf: yes that's right
[13:23] <Mist_> Each install step is taking 5-10 minutes between them also. (it is 9.10 btw)
[13:23] <sebsebseb> Night_Elf: I thought you meant Grub to begin with, but no you wanted Grub 2 factoid anyway uhmm.  it's some other file  you  need to edit, also you can use #grub for support with Grub 2
[13:23] <Night_Elf> sebsebseb: thanks for the hints. I'm following them to see how these things have changed
[13:24] <Mist_> I used the USB startup disk creator in Kubuntu 9.10 (this box) to make the usb install disk btw.
[13:24] <Night_Elf> sebsebseb: actually I didn't know about grub and grub2. Only now I became aware
[13:24] <sebsebseb> Night_Elf: np even though you shouldn't of really been getting help in here since on Debian :D
[13:25] <Night_Elf> sebsebseb: lol. ok I'm shutting up. Yet thanks :)
[13:25] <adam> anyone good with power management?
[13:25] <sebsebseb> Night_Elf: well some people might have a little problem with it, anyway have fun with Grub 2
[13:26] <jiraaya> Im using ubuntu 9.10 on an intel motherboard. Seems like i have the "black screen of death". I tried the i915.modeset=0 but it did not work. When i boot from my live Cd, there is no such balck screen. is there anything that i can do to make solve it?
[13:27] <adam_> need some help with power management
[13:27] <Guest2085> First time useing irc!
[13:27] <Jackzor> WIn
[13:27] <sebsebseb> !hi | Jackzor
[13:30] <perlsyntax_> Does anyone know how to copy wii game on ubuntu 9.10?
[13:30] <leg> anyone here that wants to help me with oidentd? getting ERROR : NO-USER with about everything I do
[13:30] <miki> i cant get sound thorugh my headphones nor can i speak through my microphone.. is there some sort of sound driver im missing?
[13:31] <jasonmchristos1> hi people i just ripped a cd using cdparanoia and now i have a wav file for each sone how do i use the flac command to encode them all instead of typing each filename input
[13:31] <adam_> miki, do you hear sound at all?
[13:32] <Jackzor> What is my password exactly?
[13:32] <miki> yes i do. adam_
[13:32] <Jackzor> To register or whatever
[13:32] <miki> i cant get it externally
[13:32] <miki> or use a microphone
[13:32] <sebsebseb> Jackzor: #freenode for help with that kind of stuff
[13:32] <sebsebseb> !register
[13:32] <adam_> miki, then its a setting in your sound properties
[13:32] <sutek> hello, I search for a program to connect to a dedicated server from OVH. Remotedesktop Client program is not 100% compatible
[13:32] <miki> really?
[13:32] <miki> I'm tryed, not sure what to change though..
[13:33] <adam_> miki, are you using gnome or kubuntu?
[13:33] <miki> gnome
[13:33] <k3rn> hi
[13:33] <jasonmchristos1> im trying to use flac command from command line to batch encode wavs
[13:34] <jasonmchristos1> i understand how to do it one at a time but how do i batch it
[13:34] <adam_> miki, right click your speaker, and go into the hardware...
[13:34] <llutz> jasonmchristos1: for i in *.wav; do flac foo bar; done
[13:34] <rivero> esto k es cjoneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[13:34] <miki> which speaker?
[13:34] <adam_> miki, make sure that your input is your microphone
[13:34] <adam_> miki, the speaker up in the right hand corner of your xsession
[13:35] <miki> yeah theres no hardware tho
[13:35] <adam_> miki, sound preferences, input tab
[13:35] <miki> ohh prefences?
[13:35] <miki> lol sorry.
[13:35] <k3rn> i installed karmic on usb hard drive. it works on all systems i tested it on. so my goal is to get it to boot on an intel macbook. anyone got his working? i am wresteling with that for days now :/. any help appreciated!
[13:35] <jasonmchristos1> llutz: i dont understand
[13:36] <miki> ill try them all..
[13:36] <root> hi guys
[13:36] <root> how are u
[13:36] <jasonmchristos1> llutz: what is foo bar
[13:36] <Guest90020> who is using bt 4
[13:36] <llutz> jasonmchristos1: your options
[13:37] <Jackzor> Gah
[13:37] <Jackzor> Is my nickname already taken or something?
[13:37] <miki> nothing
[13:37] <Benwa> Hi, i want to re-install ubuntu on my computer but a torrent is still running. How can i keep it for my fresh install. I don't want to download it again, it's a huge file. 87% for the moment.
[13:37] <llutz> jasonmchristos1: your wav-filenames will be stored in $i, so "do something" with it
[13:37] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know how to copy wii game on ubuntu?
[13:38] <jrib> Benwa: why do you want to reinstall ubuntu?
[13:38] <perlsyntax> Or what software i need.
[13:38] <adam_> miki, does the input say microphone1?
[13:38] <Benwa> jrib>  because it is unstable right nox, i made too many bad things...
[13:38] <johntramp> have any of you used socat before?
[13:38] <Benwa> *now
[13:38] <jrib> Benwa: do you have a separate /home partition?
[13:39] <miki> HDA ATI.. HDA ATI... REALTEK.. etc
[13:39] <Benwa> the question is not do i have to re-install ubuntu, but how do i keep this unfinished torrent.
[13:39] <miki> thats it?
[13:39] <Benwa> jrib>  yes
[13:39] <k3rn> boot ubuntu from usb on mac -> anyone??
[13:39] <johntramp> i have a port set up using socat -u tcp4-listen:6666,fork,bind=<IP_ADDRESS> exec:/home/john/notify-remote.sh
[13:39] <neil_d> perlsyntax: I don't know exactly.. but have you tried 'dd' to create a .iso and write that to a CD-R?
[13:39] <iflema>  Benwa youll need the stub or try to remember the keywords you used to search or what site it came from.... easy enough and move the files
[13:39] <johntramp> how do i now send something to that port?
[13:39] <thijs> any of you guys know if it's possible to only use a static ip when you're in environment X, and not in environment Y?
[13:39] <llutz> johntramp: cat file| nc host port
[13:39] <jrib> Benwa: then just reinstall ubuntu and use the same /home partition...
[13:40] <Benwa> iflema>  i still have the torrent i downloaded on internet.
[13:40] <johntramp> llutz: ok ill try that, thanks
[13:40] <Benwa> jrib>  no, i want to rebuild my /home
[13:40] <jrib> Benwa: make sure you don't reformat the /home partition.  Why?
[13:40] <Benwa> i want a fresh install
[13:40] <adam_> miki, i have mine on microphone1
[13:40] <jrib> Benwa: create a new user and copy over the data you want then
[13:40] <miki> ok
[13:40] <Benwa> jrib>  'cause my config files suck
[13:41] <jrib> Benwa: see my last
[13:41] <perlsyntax> i don't have the wii yet.
[13:41] <iflema>  Benwa ok too easy.... when your up in new system.... put the 87% done files where the torrent app would downlad and itll pick up where it left off
[13:41] <miki> i have an inbulit mic on my notebook
[13:41] <miki> how can i get that to work
[13:41] <Benwa> iflema>  i try this, thanks
[13:41] <Nilu> Hi, I upgraded my ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10. After this, the linux system has become very slow that I cannot happen to work in ubuntu. Can you please tell me what could be the reason?
[13:42] <sebsebseb> perlsyntax: As far as I know WII games are never meant to be copied
[13:42] <Jackzor> perlsyntax: You have to have a certain dvd drive to rip the games anyways. Do you have the right drive?  You need one of the following LG-8164b LG-8163b LG-8162b LG-8161b
[13:42] <jrib> Benwa: if all you want to do is reset your user configuration's then you don't need to reinstall at all, just create the new user
[13:43] <Jackzor> If I were you I would just toreent the games that you wish to back up.
[13:43] <Jackzor> Its easier
[13:43] <llutz> jasonmchristos1: for i in *.wav; do flac <YOUR OPTIONS HERE> "$i" ; done                 got it?
[13:43] <perlsyntax> i do
[13:43] <sebsebseb> !piracy |  Jackzor  perlsyntax
[13:43] <Benwa> jrib>  yes i do know, but i have thousands of programs i do not need anymore, i just want a fresh install, my ubuntu is SO slow...
[13:43] <jrib> Benwa: ok
[13:44] <Benwa> jrib>  i use this ubuntu for years
[13:45] <adam_> miki, sorrry stepped away
[13:45] <sebsebseb> Nilu: maybe it's since you need to install a propritary graphics card driver
[13:46] <sebsebseb> Nilu: however quite a lot of people got issues after upgrading from 9.04
[13:46] <iflema> Benwa when the files are in place you start the torrent again... and itll pickup........
[13:46] <perlsyntax> you guys don't know much lol.
[13:46] <miki> ok...
[13:46] <AndreMorro[BR]> 1
[13:46] <Benwa> iflema>  thanks a lot
[13:46] <adam_> miki, the built in should work automatically. you may have to adjust the gain.
[13:46] <_nmap> Hi, i plug my celular phone on usb and the ubuntu dont mount the device for me... How can i do that manually?
[13:47] <miki> ive tryed
[13:47] <miki> ill try again..
[13:48] <fourshore> every now and then my computer would automatically scan my cd drive (although it is empty) and cause a lag on my computer. how do i fix this?
[13:49] <Dreamglider> _nmap,  can you see the phone with > lsusb ?
[13:50] <_nmap> Dreamglider, yes.   Bus 003 Device 014: ID 0421:0008 Nokia Mobile Phones
[13:50] <Dreamglider> _nmap,  try sudo fdisk -l
[13:51] <thijs> any of you guys know if it's possible to only use a static ip when you're in environment X, and not in environment Y?
[13:51] <Nilu> sebsebseb: Ok. But, it used to work great with 9.04. Is it possible that some service might be causing this because the CPU runs to 100% usage quite often. That's odd and it's a dual core. In 'top', it shows only process that consumes most of the CPU and the root happens to be the owner of that.
[13:51] <chrisdone> how do you disable the horrible "minimize" animation on metacity?
[13:53] <_nmap> Dreamglider, have here /dev/sda1 , /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda5 but i think no one is my phone...
[13:54] <_nmap> dmesg shows: [10410.128024] usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 15
[13:54] <_nmap> [10410.352972] usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[13:55] <syockit> oo didn't know there was usb for wine
[13:55] <sebsebseb> Nilu: stuff like that after 9.04 to 9.10 upgrades for quite a lot of people, things that worked fine in 9.04 not doing so in the upgrade
[13:55] <llutz> _nmap: most nokias have a mode switch when connecting to usb (pc-suite, usb-massstorage). checked that?
[13:55] <sebsebseb> Nilu: probably a good idea to clean install and try 9.10 like that
[13:56] <_nmap> llutz, yeap... i choose data transfer mode... Should i try another one?
[13:56] <sebsebseb> Nilu: plus that way well, Ext4 by default and Grub 2, not really that needed, but anyway
[13:56] <Dreamglider> _nmap, it should be on wither Datastorage or ask on conn.
[13:56] <llutz> _nmap: if you want to mount it, "usb-storage"
[13:57] <Nilu> sebsebseb: Ok. Thnaks sebsebseb. :) .
[13:57] <Nilu> *Thanks
[13:57] <Dreamglider> _nmap, have a look at > http://news.softpedia.com/news/Transfer-Files-To-And-From-Your-Nokia-Phone-63116.shtml
[13:57] <sebsebseb> Nilu: seperate /homes can make clean installing and even distro hoping easier, and it's easier to one of those up your self when doing an install of Ubuntu
[13:58] <sebsebseb> Nilu: set one of those up.... above  and  np
[13:58] <_nmap> llutz, My phone is in portuguese. When i plug the usb cable i have 4 options. ( Pc Suite, Data Transfer, Image Printing, Media Player)
[13:58] <Nilu> sebsebseb: Cool. Will try that.
[13:59] <sebsebseb> Nilu: know how to make one?  and about good partition sizes?
[13:59] <Dreamglider> _nmap, try setting it to English language and see what is says
[13:59] <sebsebseb> Nilu: well if you got say an external hard disk you don't really need one,  since data can just be put on that
[13:59] <hyperstream> anyone here installed backtrack linux 4 along side ubuntu ?
[14:00] <Nilu> sebsebseb: Not really. But, I thought I would try to find out myself. But, if you can chip in that would be great. :) .
[14:00] <myk_robinson> been having a problem with YouTube and Firefox. Sometimes, when I click a link, I get an error about WATCH or RESULTS bin file or something to that nature, and i have to refresh several times, then it will work. This behaviour is not exhibited in Chrome, every link an every video works fine. This happens on my desktop and laptops. Any ideas?
[14:00] <sebsebseb> hyperstream: That's a distro that should not be used as a proper OS!
[14:00] <llutz> _nmap: so Data Transfer should be fine
[14:00] <Thoven78> Question: I created two shared folders, one on my desktop and the other one in my Laptop. However i can access the shared folder on the desktop from my laptop, but I can't access the shared folder on laptop from the desktop.
[14:00] <sebsebseb> Nilu: ok  you can first set up in gparted and finnish off in manual install telling to use as /home and Ext4 file system, or you can do in manual install.   10GB or so for / is good,  big seperate home, and a bit of SWAP
[14:01] <sebsebseb> Nilu: SWAP depends on RAM and if you want to hibernate and such
[14:01] <hyperstream> sebsebseb, thats your opinion. Alot of other would disagree, Is it true it should not be by your opinion or due to fact?, its fine to use as a OS for pentesting.
[14:01] <_nmap> If i remember well ubuntu mount automatically on data transfer mode other time
[14:01] <sebsebseb> hyperstream: yeah  security type purpouses,  and really it should only run as a Live CD for it's proper useage
[14:01] <sebsebseb> hyperstream: not be used as say an alternative to Windows, that's my point
[14:02] <hyperstream> sebsebseb, right now that we have cleared that up, i wish to join many many others in using it as a pentesting OS. dual boot pref with ubuntu
[14:02] <Nilu> sebsebseb: Cool. Ya I had something like this for 9.04.
[14:03] <sebsebseb> Nilu: well  I assume you used the guided install for 9.04, meaning  your SWAP space should be a good size already
[14:03] <calrik> hi all not getting much luck in the vmware channel but hope somewhere here can help me, I just want to know the best practice to run vmware and load up virtual machines without have to use sudo every time?
[14:04] <hyperstream> calrik, sudo -i
[14:04] <Nilu> sebsebseb: Ya.
[14:04] <hiexpo> has anyone else here had prob's with tucan manager
[14:04] <calrik> what does that do?
[14:04] <sebsebseb> nikolam: how big is your swap and how much RAM by the way?
[14:04] <hyperstream> gives you root terminal/shell
[14:04] <sebsebseb> nikolam: wrong one
[14:04] <sebsebseb> Nilu:  see above
[14:05] <kcg> hello there, just installed ubuntu on my laptop, thought would say hi here
[14:05] <jrib> calrik: you shouldn't need to sudo vmware
[14:05] <jrib> !vmware | calrik
[14:05] <Psyonara> Hi everyone. My Ubuntu installation started doing a weird thing today. When I load some web pages, external files (e.g. CSS, JS, etc) will not load. From what I can see, it's only when those files are from a subdomain. Any ideas? It does this in all browsers, but when I try on Windows, it works fine.
[14:05] <hyperstream> Psyonara, that is very strange.
[14:05] <calrik> jrib: I can load up vmware no problem but when I go to load the actually machines say permission denied, running vmware with sudo solves this problem
[14:06] <Psyonara> Yeah, dunno what to do...
[14:06] <Milp_main> When i do make to compile busybox, where does make create the output?
[14:06] <jrib> calrik: check ubottu's link.  Presumably you need to add your user to some group but I don't use vmware
[14:06] <calrik> jrib: I have chmod 755 the director the vm are stored in also
[14:06] <Psyonara> Examples are Adobe, Amazon, and IMDB. They all don't load with CSS.
[14:06] <calrik> ok ta I will have a look
[14:06] <fourshore> how do i eject a cd drive in ubuntu if the cd drive button does not work?
[14:06] <lunix> Hei people! I have a really strange problem and I hope someone here got a good answer to it.  I use firefox 3.5.7.  Ive got a newly installed Ubuntu 9.10 64bit installation.  quad processor and 4 gigs of ram.   When i go to a semi-heavy website (db.no) and open a few tabs.. 4 or more  firefox stops responding for a while and on system monitor onw or two of the cpu's are 100% while the two others are almost idle.. Flash is installed the ubuntu way an
[14:06] <ikonia> munz: in the source tree
[14:07] <hyperstream> Psyonara, something is blocking them, some software id assume
[14:07] <Theviking> anyone got a eee pc 1005ha? running ubuntu?
[14:07] <forceflow> Theviking: me
[14:07] <hyperstream> lunix, try the new google chrome browser (yes for linux) its great!
[14:07] <Nilu> sebsebseb: RAM : 2 GB, SWAP : 4 GB.
[14:07] <ikonia> lunix: flash is probably the problem there - flash is closed source and reacts different to different websites
[14:07] <iflema> Nilu if ya plan on staying... try 20+ gig for / (root) swap at least more than total physical ram and big /home partition. all these mount points can be moved/increased but best to cover it straight up.
[14:07] <ikonia> Milp_main: in the source tree is where the output is
[14:07] <sebsebseb> Nilu: good, yep that's  what it should be
[14:07] <Theviking> 9,10?-- forceflow
[14:07] <Milp_main> source tree?
[14:07] <Psyonara> hyperstream, not sure what it could be, I didn't install anything recently.
[14:08] <hyperstream> lunix, also try other browsers see if the problem is still around
[14:08] <looter> Hello,  I am having a slight problem with my xorg config.  In an attempt to fix the blank menus in Wine and Open Office in my Ubuntu 8.10 build I followed this tutorial.  http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=122695    However this morning I woke up and restarted the machine and ubuntu told me it was going to run in low graphics mode.  So i deleted teh lines in my xorg.conf that I had added from that forum post, the
[14:08] <looter> n restarted x again but still no luck.  I'm stuck in low graphics mode any suggestions?
[14:08] <FloodBot1> looter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:08] <ikonia> Milp_main: yes, where you are typing "make" why are you building busybox - it's in the ubuntu repos
[14:08] <kcg> i have a question, i installed gDesklets, but somehow the weather widgets doesn't appear to work, it is showing "Retrieval Failed", I looked on web and some pages said it might be a bug, just wondering if anyone had any solutions to it?
[14:08] <Milp_main> ikonia because i am building it for arm
[14:08] <ikonia> Milp_main: you're cross-compiling it ?
[14:08] <Milp_main> ikonia yes
[14:08] <ikonia> Milp_main: what cross-compiler are you using ?
[14:09] <sebsebseb> Nilu: you can keep the SWAP it made for you, when you re install,  just being clear in case you aren't sure.   it's probably also in an extended partition which is fine
[14:09] <DexterLB> I installed ubuntu karmic and got the kde packages as I always do
[14:09] <DexterLB> starting any kde app that uses sound (e.g. qt designer, system settings, kttsmgr) outputs this error and crashes: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/phonon_backend/phonon_xine.so: undefined symbol: _ZN9QHashData13detach_helperEPFvPNS_4NodeEPvEPFvS1_Ei
[14:09] <DexterLB> smells like broken packages, what can I do?
[14:09] <FloodBot1> DexterLB: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:09] <Milp_main> ikonia: arm-none-linux-gnueabi
[14:09] <DexterLB> also, removing the xine backend causes the same error but for the gstreamer backend
[14:09] <ikonia> Milp_main: so what is your current host system, and whats you're target tripplet ?
[14:10] <Nilu> sebsebseb: Yes.
[14:10] <lunix> hyperstream, ikonia: Thanks for good advice! Ill try that. On the 32 bit installation I had before, this was not a problem.  But ill troulbeshoot it a bit by trying chrome and another flashplayer :)  Thanks a lot!
[14:10] <Milp_main> ikonia my host system is a VM runnin debian 5.0.0, and my target system is android
[14:10] <Psyonara> hyperstream, thanks anyway, will keep on trying.
[14:10] <ikonia> Milp_main: then why are you asking in #ubuntu ?
[14:10] <Milp_main> ikonia i dont know any better support channels :(
[14:10] <ikonia> Milp_main: #debian
[14:10] <calrik> jrib: thanks I solved it turned out to be a permissions problem after all, I done chmod 775 but should have done it recursively :)
[14:10] <hyperstream> Psyonara, i couldnt imagen such an issue thats all, sorry mate
[14:10] <jrib> calrik: ak, ok
[14:10] <Milp_main> ikonia gonna go there, but i thought this was a pretty general linux question so i could aswell ask here
[14:11] <jrib> calrik: I guess you created the virtual machines as root then?
[14:11] <Psyonara> hyperstream, no worries, thanks. :)
[14:11] <ikonia> Milp_main: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[14:11] <nwillems> Hi, I'm looking for some help on configuring X/or which component it is that manages multi screen
[14:11] <hyperstream> Psyonara, to be honest id be doing a fresh install and get on these sites straight away and install stuff one by one till my setup is complete
[14:11] <Milp_main> ahh ok, thanks
[14:11] <ikonia> no problem
[14:11] <Milp_main> great, cant go on their channel for some reason
[14:11] <Milp_main> its probably full i guess
[14:11] <hyperstream> register your nickname?
[14:11] <Psyonara> hyperstream, thanks, might just try that...
[14:11] <hyperstream> i just joined its not full
[14:11] <DexterLB> hmm I'm using the unofficial kde repo
[14:11] <sebsebseb> Nilu: so just make the two partitions in manual,  i'll repeate.  10GB or so for  /   big seperate home and the Ext4 file system. and that's a good re install
[14:12] <Nilu> iflema: Ya understood. Will try reinstalling. Thanks anyways. :) .
[14:12] <hyperstream> Milp_main, register your nickname
[14:12] <ikonia> !register > Milp_main
[14:12] <hyperstream> !register | Milp_main
[14:12] <DexterLB> how can I downgrade ALL kde packages to the karmic native ones/
[14:12] <DexterLB> -/+?
[14:12] <Milp_main> thanks
[14:12] <AlBundy> what are the best drivers for ATI Radeon 9600xt?
[14:13] <hyperstream> Psyonara, I had extreme laptop issues with 9.10 only thing that solved it was #ubuntu+1 (Developement next release 10.4 lucid) if you should find yourself banging you head agaisnt the wall
[14:13] <aftertaf> DexterLB: which source for your KDE?
[14:13] <Nilu> sebsebseb: Cool. Will do that. Thanks again. Anything else, I should take care of?
[14:13] <myk_robinson> if anyone's able to help with my Firefox/Youtube issue, here's a screen shot of what happens:   http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6797/youtubeerror.jpg
[14:13] <hyperstream> Psyonara, havnt had any issues with it so far
[14:13] <ikonia> hyperstream: advising 10.04 is not really acceptable, especially if it's for no specific reason
[14:13] <aftertaf> DexterLB : try the new 4.4 RC2 packages too
[14:13] <serpico> hi
[14:13] <elitedev> can anyone do me a quick favor? just need an ip address for a functioning dns server since my isp's is down. like opendns or something.
[14:14] <Psyonara> hyperstream, ok thanks. I'm still on 9.04, cuz I had problems with 9.10. Might have to try 10.04 then. Is yours relatively stable?
[14:14] <ikonia> elitedev: this is not an approprriate channel to ask
[14:14] <hyperstream> ikonia, its incase he spends tonight/tommorow with no luck.
[14:14] <ikonia> Psyonara: no it is not stable
[14:14] <ikonia> hyperstream: that's no reason to suggest 10.04
[14:14] <DexterLB> aftertaf: will they fix my problem?
[14:14] <llutz> elitedev: <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:14] <hyperstream> Psyonara, havnt had an issue yet mate, and ive slammed it from pentesting to everyday home/office usuage.
[14:14] <sebsebseb> Nilu: which graphics card you got?   well  just make sure there isn't anything to install in  system > administration > hardware drivers  once on, and if there is well install graphics card driver for example. and get all the security updates of course.  and start installing whatever your going to install etc
[14:15] <aftertaf> DexterLB: one way to try : i'm on it and have no such issue man
[14:15] <AlBundy> what are the best drivers for ATI Radeon 9600xt?
[14:15] <myk_robinson> elitedev: you can use OpenDNS  <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:15] <Psyonara> hyperstream, Ok, will consider it. I just find it strange that this problem comes up from one day to the next, without any major changes to the system.
[14:15] <hyperstream> ikonia, the amount of times its solved issues for people and/or been mentioned as a solution :)
[14:15] <ikonia> Psyonara: I strongly advise you not to upgrade to 10.04 without reason, it may be viewed as stable for someone, but it may not be for you, it is in development and a moving target and can break at any point in the development cycly
[14:15] <erUSUL> AlBundy: System>Admin...>Hardware Drivers
[14:15] <ikonia> hyperstream: no - blindly recommending development releases is not acceptable
[14:15] <AlBundy> erUSUL, there is nothing there.
[14:15] <DexterLB> aftertaf: give that apt line! :P
[14:15] <Psyonara> Ikonia, ok thanks.
[14:15] <elitedev> myk_robinson, llutz: thank you! ikonia: not so much.
[14:16] <sebsebseb> Nilu: oh and I would put  letters and numbers at least in the account  password,  and at least  8 characters
[14:16] <erUSUL> AlBundy: then you will have to use the free radeon drivers (probably what you are using already)
[14:16] <aftertaf> DexterLB: msged :)
[14:16] <hyperstream> Psyonara, what ikonia said is true, but many people ive solved laptop issues with have agreed, i would suggest not upgrading like ikonia is suggesting but a clean install if you did need to attempt that. install 9.10 and debug first tho :)
[14:16] <ikonia> Psyonara: I would not suggest a clean install
[14:16] <Ven]n> ubuntu keeps trying to connect to a wlan ive been on before.. but I dont want it to try that one.. how to fix?
[14:16] <iflema> hyperstream its an alpha...
[14:16] <Ven]n> I get a popup to type in WEP password
[14:17] <ikonia> hyperstream: I've just told you blindly recommending 10.04 is not aceptable - please stop
[14:17] <ikonia> Psyonara: I would suggest not using it
[14:17] <Psyonara> hyperstream: yeah, I was thinking of trying 9.10, but haven't decided yet.
[14:17] <Psyonara> ikonia, not even 9.10?
[14:17] <ikonia> Psyonara: 9.10 would be a more sensible update if you're keen on an update
[14:17] <ikonia> Psyonara: 9.10 is stable
[14:17] <AlBundy> erUSUL, and why is that exactly?
[14:18] <Psyonara> ikonia, ok, that's what hyperstream then suggested.
[14:18] <erUSUL> AlBundy: those drivers come preinstalled with the system
[14:18] <myk_robinson> these messages are going by a bit fast, so at the risk of being called impatient and a spammer, anyone able to help with this:  http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6797/youtubeerror.jpg
[14:18] <ikonia> Psyonara: that's more than a sensible approach
[14:18] <erUSUL> AlBundy: do « man radeon » in a terminal
[14:18] <ikonia> hyperstream: my apologies
[14:18] <hyperstream> ;/
[14:18] <jason_> I need help
[14:19] <hyperstream> jason_, please state the question you have :)
[14:19] <sebsebseb> !ask | jason_
[14:19] <Psyonara> ikonia, hyperstream: is an upgrade to 9.10 likely to solve problems, or is a clean install better?
[14:19] <jason_> When I run the command sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tualatrix/ubuntu-tweak (or any other reposotory I get the following error
[14:19] <jason_> Exception in thread Thread-1:
[14:19] <jason_> Traceback (most recent call last):
[14:19] <jason_>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/threading.py", line 525, in __bootstrap_inner
[14:19] <jason_>     self.run()
[14:19] <jason_>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/softwareproperties/ppa.py", line 60, in run
[14:19] <FloodBot1> jason_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:19] <jason_>     self.add_ppa_signing_key(self.ppa_path)
[14:19] <nwillems> I'm looking for someone who can help me on monitor "detction". My laptop recognises my 19" PC Monitor via VGA and also my Flatscreen TV same port, but the later only on reboot.
[14:19] <hyperstream> Psyonara, i always prefer clean installs, but i cannot say a upgrade wouldnt help
[14:20] <ikonia> Psyonara: an upgrade is acceptable, it may or may not solve the problems you're seeing, look on launchpad.net to see if anyone has been having a simliar problem/bug on 9.10
[14:20] <Psyonara> hyperstream, thanks.
[14:20] <kcg> hi, i installed gDesklets, but somehow the weather widgets doest appear to work, it is showing "Retrieval Failed", I looked on web and some pages said it might be a bug, just wondering if anyone had any solutions to it? Many thanks.
[14:20] <Psyonara> ikonia, thanks, I'll check it out.
[14:20] <ikonia> Psyonara: also check launchpad.net for the problem you're having see if anyone's actually logged it for your distro and posted a fix
[14:20] <sebsebseb> Psyonara: 9.04 to 9.10 upgrades have gone wrong on quite a few people,  plus not that important, but  those Ext3 9.04 installs won't get converted to Ext4 on upgrade, and no Grub 2 either
[14:20] <myk_robinson> kcg: not a direct fix, but have you tried using Screenlets instead?
[14:20] <ikonia> sebsebseb: why does he need grub 2 ?
[14:20] <hyperstream> Psyonara, not a problem
[14:21] <ikonia> sebsebseb: why is not having grub 2 a bad thing ?
[14:21] <sebsebseb> ikonia: exactly, hence my plus not that important
[14:21] <Psyonara> sebsebseb, I'm already on Ext4
[14:21] <ikonia> sebsebseb: so why mention it ?
[14:21] <sebsebseb> ikonia: ,because it won't happen on upgrade?
[14:21] <ikonia> sebsebseb: but you've just said that it's not importat
[14:21] <supernapalm> is there ANYONE on here that has knowledge of Usenet? I'm using Alt Binz and Newshosting and at best download speed is only 30kbps when it should be 600kbps. It was fine last night managed to download 12gb but just slowed to almost a halt today...
[14:22] <ikonia> supernapalm: could it be your isp shaping/throttling you ? could it be your usenet servers are currently under load?
[14:22] <ikonia> supernapalm: what usenet client are you using, what ubuntu version ?
[14:22] <jason_> I get an error when I run the command  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tualatrix/ubuntu-tweak [http://paste.ubuntu.com/361269/]
[14:23] <hyperstream> supernapalm, portforwarding? perhaps assigned a new DHCP ipaddress via your router could have messed with firewall/service configuration with you router? (stab in the dark)
[14:23] <myk_robinson> supernapalm: I use Sabnzbd without issue. Like ikonia said, cound be your ISP throttling you, particularly if you downloaded 12GB in one night. That would be a red flag for some ISPs
[14:23] <witold> hi
[14:23] <viktorfulop> Hey! This is my first time here... This is some kind of help channel, right? So can I ask a question?
[14:23] <hyperstream> jason_, whats the error, can you paste it @ pastebin.com please (the error)
[14:23] <sebsebseb> viktorfulop: of course, just ask
[14:23] <kcg> myk_robinson: another widget engine?
[14:23] <supernapalm> thing is I've downloaded well over 12gb in one night before via torrents and never had a problem
[14:24] <ikonia> supernapalm: worth checking with your isp - and your usenet servers
[14:24] <ikonia> supernapalm: doesn't sound like an ubuntu issue though
[14:24] <jason_> I did the "Exeption in line..." is the error
[14:24] <supernapalm> yeh well I sent an email to Newshosting support but they havern't got back to me
[14:24] <myk_robinson> kcg: yes, but with much better widgets. You have to consider that each widget may have its own bugs. Do you get the same results with every weather plugin you try, or just one in particular?
[14:25] <syockit> what's the safest way to restart compiz?
[14:25] <kcg> yup, every plugin
[14:25] <ikonia> supernapalm: give them time, either way doesn't sound like an ubuntu issue
[14:25] <hyperstream> jason_, so sorry, im blind :(
[14:26] <myk_robinson> supernapalm: for me, I have to throttle down my newsgroup downloads, otherwise it takes everything available on my network. Have you accidentally made a change in your app, are you perhaps throttling yourself? Do you get the same slow results when direct downloaing something from a website? I guess what I'm trying to ask is if the slow speeds are isloated to newgroup downloads
[14:26] <viktorfulop> Cool. So here's the thing: I have a mobile broadband pcmcia card that worked just well on jaunty, but as I installed karmic it doesn't work, coz it mounts the card's storage but doesn't recognize the hardware. The help says I need the package 'udev-extras', but there's no such package for karmic and the one for jaunty doesn't work with karmic. So can you help me somehow?
[14:27] <supernapalm> yeh, downloading from browser is NO problem at all youtube is fine
[14:27] <supernapalm> it's only with Usenet
[14:28] <kcg> myk_robinson: I am going to try out screenlets first and see how it goes. Many thanks.
[14:28] <ikonia> supernapalm: therefore it's either your isp or your usenet server, not an ubuntu issue
[14:28] <myk_robinson> kcg: no prob, glad to be able to help. Hope it works for you
[14:28] <bobbyd> hi
[14:29] <supernapalm> by process of elimination it's a server problem for sure because my ISP throttles traffic but only between 5pm and 11pm when I'm not usually on anyway
[14:29] <serpico> hi
[14:29] <myk_robinson> supernapalm: only other thing I can think is trying a different app for downloading and see if you can duplicate the problem
[14:29] <myk_robinson> supernapalm: http://sabnzbd.org/
[14:30] <himawijaya> tes
[14:30] <myk_robinson> I know i'm flooding again, but have any of you seen this error before in Firefox/Youtube    http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6797/youtubeerror.jpg
[14:30] <ikonia> supernapalm: ok - so nothing we can do to help you with that problem
[14:31] <bobbyd> On Ubuntu 9.04 The hardware volume buttons on my laptop no longer control the master volume, but are somehow mapping to the "capture" pulseaudio master volume. How can I fix this?
[14:31] <supernapalm> well thanks for the suggestions anyway
[14:31] <shane2peru> Is there a simple way to import a m3u or pls playlist into rhythmbox?
[14:31] <myk_robinson> supernapalm: what service are you using? Astraweb has been great for me
[14:32] <supernapalm> as in premium server? I'm signed up to Newshosting
[14:32] <shane2peru> ahh, got it, it is load file. :)
[14:33] <myk_robinson> supernapalm: just checking their site to see if they have a "Server Status" or something, perhaps it is a server problem. At any rate, I'm curious
[14:34] <supernapalm> not on their homepage
[14:34] <AlBundy> my karmic doesnt recognize my external monitor, what can I do?
[14:34] <supernapalm> they're supposed to be one of the top dogs so to speak and prices were good
[14:34] <johntramp> is there a file similar to .xinitrc where i can run commands when i start gnome
[14:34] <myk_robinson> supernapalm: they have a few different servers listed, have you tried using a different one?
[14:35] <Ven]n> where do I manage the wireless networks in ubuntu?=
[14:35] <sporedi> how do i register with my nick name sorry forget did login long time back since create
[14:35] <Ven]n> found it
[14:35] <llutz> !register | sporedi
[14:35] <sporedi> ok
[14:35] <sporedi> thank you !
[14:35] <supernapalm> I can only use the server my account is on i think
[14:35] <supernapalm> i'm not sure
[14:36] <myk_robinson> as long as you have a valid account, you should be able to use any server you choose. At least thats how it is with Astraweb. I alsways use the SSL encrypted server. Would only take you a few seconds to try a different one, either it will work or it wont
[14:37] <bobbyd> aha! I fixed it: system->sound, choose the correct track to control at the bottom of the dialog :).
[14:37] <ScoobyDoo> I Just added a new drive but now I get a grub error 15, If I remove the new drive I can boot back into Xubuntu.
[14:37] <viktorfulop> sooo... can you help me on that previous problem i mentioned? just to know whether i should wait or not...
[14:37] <myk_robinson> supernapalm: you may be right, though. Looks like their server configuration is specific to account type
[14:38] <gotsanity> is there any way to share my banshee database with other machines on my local network? (im looking to share ratings mainly)
[14:38] <nwillems> Hey. I'm having some problem with multi monitor in ubuntu 9.10. I have a flatscreen and a monitor, my flatscreen won't show up after I have had the monitor plugged in. Is this anything common?
[14:38] <ikonia> supernapalm: can you please stop discussing this in this channel. it's not an ubuntu issue
[14:38] <coz_> nwillems,  which video card are you using
[14:38] <g-me> Hey All.. Can Anyone recommend a local personal fincance program at all? Open to suggestions but naturally would like a pssword / lock on the program also. Cheers
[14:39] <ScoobyDoo> I Just added a new drive but now I get a grub error 15, If I remove the new drive I can boot back into Xubuntu.
[14:39] <hyperstream> g-me, gnucash
[14:39] <myk_robinson> g-me: kMyMoney is excellent, even in Gnome
[14:39] <nwillems> just a sec will look it up, I have a Lenovo S10e netbook.
[14:39] <g-me> hyperstream: does that support a password at startup?
[14:39] <coz_> nwillems,    lspci | grep -i vga
[14:39] <hyperstream> g-me, not sure mate
[14:39] <g-me> myk_robinson: will give that a look cheers.
[14:39] <g-me> hyperstream: I will dig around and have a look. Thanks
[14:40] <nwillems> coz_, It's an intel
[14:40] <llutz> g-me: hibiscus
[14:40] <myk_robinson> g-me: its in the repositories, but here's some information for you  http://kmymoney2.sourceforge.net/index-home.html
[14:40] <coz_> nwillems,  ok now in terminal    _sudo glxinfo -l |grep MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE
[14:40] <nwillems> _sudo ??
[14:40] <ScoobyDoo> I Just added a new drive but now I get a grub error 15, If I remove the new drive I can boot back into Xubuntu. Can I boot into Xubuntu and have the second drive plugged in?
[14:41] <coz_> nwillems,  you can try it without sudo if you like
[14:41] <sporedi> i am in process of home network using a firewall  i have 3 machine and 1 will goto firewall 1 is laptop and other is my desktop (desktop plan to host ssh,ftp,blog) is it a good idea i am planning to create a dnat for dmz
[14:41] <mediaprodigy> Hello everyone
[14:41] <nwillems> My question was more about the underscore?
[14:41] <coz_> nwillems,  are you running the system as root?
[14:41] <g-me> myk_robinson: yeah that looks what I am after. Will check that out thanks.
[14:41] <coz_> nwillems,  oh maybe i have the wrong person let me check
[14:41] <nwillems> 2048
[14:42] <nwillems> coz_, its 2048
[14:42] <coz_> nwillems,  ok that means that dual monitors CANNOT exceed that resolution in any one direction
[14:42] <coz_> nwillems,  that is hardware based by the way and not changeagle at least as far as I know
[14:42] <myk_robinson> g-me: yeah, its about as close to Quicken as one can get in Linux. I actually like it better
[14:43] <coz_> nwillems,  so the combined monitors cannot exceed that 2048
[14:43] <ScoobyDoo> I Just added a new drive but now I get a grub error 15, If I remove the new drive I can boot back into Xubuntu. Can I Do that as well as have the new drive plugged in?
[14:43] <nwillems> coz_, is it on a per monitor basis or "total" display?
[14:43] <hyperstream> ScoobyDoo, try #xubuntu
[14:43] <g-me> since I got a good response to the last question... Is there any FOSS ssl VPN software about anyone can recommend
[14:43] <coz_> nwillems,  total
[14:43] <ScoobyDoo> Ah ok thanks
[14:43] <llutz> g-me: openvpn?
[14:43] <g-me> myk_robinson: its all you fault then if I go bankrupt ! :)
[14:43] <nwillems> coz_, Okay, that solves one problem about My HD TV not being able to go 1080p. But to the main point.
[14:43] <myk_robinson> g-me: glad to be of service :)
[14:44] <nwillems> coz_, My flatscreen TV dosen
[14:44] <RobotCow> how can i check how many man pages there are for a command?
[14:44] <g-me> llutz: is openvpn still supported? I thought support had ceased.. However if it works and is secure I will give it a go
[14:44] <coz_> nwillems,  again it is most likely related to the MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE  however  I cant be sure because I have never tested it with flatscreen TV
[14:44] <llutz> RobotCow: man -k
[14:44] <coz_> nwillems,  in order to get around that you would need a different video card
[14:45] <RobotCow> llutz, thanks
[14:45] <nwillems> coz_, My flatscreen TV dosen't "identify" after I have had my monitor attached to my laptop?
[14:45] <noise_> hi i want to start learning c++,but i dont know what kind of tools should i use
[14:45] <noise_> maby emacs,or vi
[14:45] <coz_> nwillems,   mm   I am not sure what that issue would be then   but it recogizes it if the monitor had not been attached?
[14:46] <jeffmr> noise_, or pico or a graphical text editor
[14:46] <coz_> noise gedit should work
[14:46] <nwillems> it just sees it as the old one, dosen't detect the new monitors sizes. The one is 4:3 -monitor and the flatscreen is 16:9
[14:46] <noise_> what is pico?
[14:47] <g-me> noise: this may be blasphemous: Notepad++ with Wine
[14:47] <jeffmr> noise_, its a simple terminal text editor
[14:47] <noise_> cute
[14:47] <jeffmr> noise_, simpler than emacs and vi
[14:47] <coz_> nwillems,  mmm ok  then I am at a loss here and any info I could give you right now would be a guess... i am betting there is someone with a bit more experience with these matters   if not...you could try  ##linux channel
[14:47] <sporedi> i am in process of home network using a firewall  i have 3 machine and 1 will goto firewall 1 is laptop and other is my desktop (desktop plan to host ssh,ftp,blog) is it a good idea i am planning to create a dnat for dmz
[14:48] <Ricky_> dsgsg
[14:48] <nwillems> coz_, well thanks for the help, can you maybee give a guess on which component it is located?
[14:48] <noise_> how can i clik in pico expl. ^R ??
[14:49] <coz_> nwillems,  which component?  I am not sure what you mean
[14:49] <jeffmr> noise_, I don't think you can.  I think you would have to use a graphical editor or something else
[14:49] <jeffmr> it has a go to line command and the commands are listed at the bottom of the screen
[14:50] <nwillems> coz_, like in what piece of software? Like X or driver or something in between, maybee Gnome.
[14:50] <myk_robinson> noise_: I would recommend using gedit. It has a GUI, which may be helpful, plus it has language markup to help with highlighting and format for C++
[14:51] <coz_> nwillems,  oh well... it is going to be mostly the video card/driver
[14:51] <noise_> ok thanks
[14:51] <myk_robinson> noise_: perhaps this will help:   http://penguininside.blogspot.com/2009/06/using-gedit-as-ide-python-cc-or-any.html
[14:51] <nwillems> coz_, Thanks a lot, you really helped me there. have a great day
[14:51] <Guest19797> hi i restored a partimage-backup to a partition but cannot open the encrypted home folder (running system with already the home folder mounted) what to do?
[14:52] <coz_> nwillems,  but again ...you want to check with someone with more experience in this
[14:52] <coz_> nwillems,  that's why i suggested  the ##linux channel :)
[14:52] <nwillems> coz_, I will see if there's someone in there or maybee if there's an intel-graphics channel
[14:52] <coz_> nwillems,  I hope this pans out for you.... video issues are a pain in the butt :)
[14:53] <nwillems> coz_, Yeah, sadly the manufactures like haven't opened their eyes to this community
[14:54] <coz_> nwillems,  well  intel...nvidia to a point...and now ati have been there....ati is now open source
[14:54] <coz_> nwillems,  laptops arent always equipped with high end video  so  that could be the issue
[14:55] <Guest19797> i have troubles mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please
[14:56] <tentaclemoose> anyone have any trouble with 9.10 and netbook remix?
[14:56] <nwillems> coz_, but then again laptops are being sold more often than "normal" PC's
[14:56] <tentaclemoose> specifically, with the main menu being too large for the screen?
[14:56] <myk_robinson> figured out my Firefox/Youtube problem. Looks like the Download Helper plugin was causing occasional trouble. Disabled it and have had no issues
[14:57] <coz_> nwillems,   perhaps... you might have to special order a higher end video chip in the laptop...but   I dont use laptops at all so I am certainly not the last work on the topic  :)
[14:57] <viktorfulop> I have a mobile broadband pcmcia card that worked just well on jaunty, but as I installed karmic it doesn't work, coz it mounts the card's storage but doesn't recognize the hardware. The help says I need the package 'udev-extras', but there's no such package for karmic and the one for jaunty doesn't work with karmic. So can you help me somehow?
[14:57] <mazda01> can anyone please tell me how to do a search from command line to find a trash icon in ubuntu. i would think it would have "trash" and either "svg" or "png" in it. I tried sudo find /usr/ -name "trash*png" but that didn't work. any thoughts?
[14:58] <YezYez> I have installed ubuntu 9.10. I cannot boot my previously installed Windows7. I get 'BOOTMGR is missing' when trying to boot windows7. What should I do?
[14:58] <Guest19797> i have problems mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please
[14:58] <nwillems> coz_, he he. Statistics says so
[14:59] <YezYez> mazda01, try "trash*ico" ?
[14:59] <erUSUL> !ecryptfs
[15:00] <YezYez> Anyone in here ran windows7 before installing ubuntu?
[15:00] <coz_> YezYez,  yes I just did a clients system that had windows 7 on it
[15:00] <sanguisdex> I need to get my hands on the live image for intrepid ibex any one know where I can get that?
[15:01] <jiohdi> anyway to run tomtom software in ubuntu?
[15:01] <YezYez> coz_, Can you tell me what you did in order for GRUB to make windows7 boot? I get 'bootmgr is missing' when booting W7
[15:01] <coz_> sanguisdex,    http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/
[15:01] <brendan`> jiohdi, with wine?
[15:02] <jiohdi> brendan, wine lets a zip file down load... which vanishes ... and then nothing happens
[15:02] <coz_> YezYez,   mm   I removed windows 7 for this client  ... I have not done a dual boot with windows7  and ubuntu yet  but let me check
[15:02] <YezYez> coz_, its weird...normally w7 has 2 partitions I think
[15:02] <YezYez> but it seems like I only have 1
[15:02] <jeffmr> YezYez, I think you have to boot with the Windows 7 cd and repair the installation
[15:03] <YezYez> :s
[15:03] <sanguisdex> unless of course the opensource ati driver is now supporting opengl for mobility-radion cards
[15:03] <jeffmr> I had to do that but it was on a mac
[15:03] <YezYez> jeffmr, the cd said it cannot be repaired
[15:03] <coz_> YezYez,  see if any of this is familiar   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1035999
[15:03] <nikhil> unable to print on my hp laserjet p1007. downloaded hplip toolbox. printer is being detected and when test page is sent for print, the same is displayed as successfully printed. but there is no printing taking place.  please help
[15:04] <nikhil> unable to print on my hp laserjet p1007. downloaded hplip toolbox. printer is being detected and when test page is sent for print, the same is displayed as successfully printed. but there is no printing taking place.  please help. i am using ubuntu 8.10.
[15:04] <YezYez> let me check, coz_
[15:04] <coz_> YezYez,  also check here   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[15:06] <nikhil> unable to print on my hp laserjet p1007. downloaded hplip toolbox. printer is being detected and when test page is sent for print, the same is displayed as successfully printed. but there is no printing taking place.  please help. i am using ubuntu 8.10.
[15:06] <mazda01> YezYez, that didn't find anything. I am using cairo-dock from ppa weekly. i am missing alamixer icon, trash icon, and clock icon for some reaason.
[15:06] <Guest19797> i have problems mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please
[15:06] <coz_> YezYez,  here is a graphical tutorial on this    http://netcashingin.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu.html
[15:06] <myk_robinson> nikhil: not sure, HPLIP is showing to have supported that printer since Ubuntu 5.04 you connected by USB?
[15:07] <Mist_> On a typical ubuntu installation, how should I divide the partitions for like  /boot /  /home /swap and so on?
[15:07] <Mist_> What is recomended I mean..
[15:07] <nikhil> myk_robinson: yes, connected thru usb
[15:07] <sanguisdex> is there a way to install a an image to a live CD and test ati drivers?
[15:08] <Mist_> On typical user desktop system Iso far had like 100 MB or so for /boot
[15:08] <Mist_> 5 GB for /
[15:08] <coz_> Misery,   take a look here   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[15:08] <myk_robinson> Mist_: I typically do a 30-40GB / partition, a 2GB swap, and the largest portion for a /home partition. I like a separate /home partition because I prefer a clean install to an upgrade, and this ensures I keep my stuff
[15:08] <nikhil> myk_robinson: saw the help site. it says it requires downloadable driver plug in. ???
[15:08] <ubuntu_chile_tco> Existe alguien que hable español ??
[15:08] <myk_robinson> nikhil: you should have everything you need in the repositories, I believe. Lemme double check
[15:08] <YezYez> ty coz_
[15:09] <YezYez> but it seems like i have far greater problems
[15:09] <YezYez> :s
[15:09] <coz_> oo
[15:09] <YezYez> i destroyed the win7 boot partition i guess
[15:09] <nikhil> myk_robinson: like what from repos? pls help
[15:09] <YezYez> so now there is no possible way to boot
[15:09] <Mist_> myk_robinson: Yeah that is why I also split /home from the rest :)  5GB will be enough for the rest other than /boot  and /home u think?
[15:09] <YezYez> >:[
[15:10] <Pindaman> Hola
[15:10] <coz_> YezYez,  mm   I wish I could help more here ..unfortunately I have to break...I have several clients this morning :(  be back later though...but I know there are very qualified people on this channel that can help
[15:10] <YezYez> np, ty for your help coz_...take care mate :)
[15:10] <Mist_> Another reason is how reading is handled in GNU/Linux of disk.. old trick to speed up old drives for servers is to have the most used partitions as close to the parking of the spindles..
[15:11] <myk_robinson> Mist_: I wouldnt bother with a /boot partition  I just allow GRUB to be installed to MBR anyway.  I would recommend at least 10GB for / just because it contains the whole OS, including apps you install to standard location.  Can someone help me with setting up wireless for WPA2-TKIP?
[15:11] <Mist_> Thus.. swap should have the average shortest time over the platters along with most information intense area ;P
[15:11] <myk_robinson> Mist_: what size hard drive?
[15:11] <mediaprodigy> what's up everyone
[15:11] <YezYez> mazda01, this should give you some clues to where icons are located: http://tuxenclave.wordpress.com/2007/11/23/ubuntu-customization-guide-v2/
[15:12] <mike5> that is, my access-point is just fine, I just cant connect from ubuntu.
[15:12] <myk_robinson> nikhil: did you download the driver or install it from Synaptic?
[15:12] <beeman_nl> hmm
[15:13] <beeman_nl> my mouse suddely stops responding in my Karmic box
[15:13] <nikhil> myk_robinson: installed thru synaptic
[15:13] <Mist_> myk_robinson: 320 GB - around 30 GB of the initial WinXP installation on a Samsung NC10 ^^ I have been doing gnu/linux since 1993 but havent kept up with the recent 5 years exploding development so unsure of disk spaces for mostly /boot and kernel dynamics :)
[15:13] <beeman_nl> i have two mice, the both stop after some time (not at the same time though)
[15:13] <beeman_nl> is there any way to reset the mice or something?
[15:14] <iBUntuS> salam sumer
[15:14] <myk_robinson> nikhil: can you tell what version of hplip is installed?
[15:14] <Mist_> myk_robinson: that and a bit of.. ahum.. sort of perfectionst personality distorder :D lol lol
[15:14] <Mist_> errr disorder :)
[15:14] <nikhil> myk_robinson: HPLIP 2.8.7
[15:14] <myk_robinson> Mist_: I would stick with just a swap, /, and /home    Should be fine
[15:15] <nikhil> myk_robinson: Device manager software version: 14
[15:16] <myk_robinson> nikhil: not sure, everything says it should just work. Take a look at this:  http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install_wizard/index.html
[15:16] <Mist_> myk_robinson: probably :) I should install another gig ram into this one and virtualbox my insane scientist laboratory experiments with distros anyway on the side ^^
[15:16] <mike5> Can someone help me with setting up wireless for WPA2-TKIP?
[15:16] <myk_robinson> Mist_: yeah, VirtualBox is a lot more enjoyable with RAM
[15:16] <myk_robinson> mike5: whats problem are you ahving?
[15:16] <Mist_> myk_robinson: yeah.. so the wize men say (and girls)
[15:17] <mike5> well... can't connect :)
[15:17] <mike5> nothing happens
[15:17] <myk_robinson> mike5: if you disable the encryption can you connect?
[15:18] <Guest19797> i have problems mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please
[15:18] <mike5> I thought I will not have to fiddle with my router to do this...
[15:18] <mazda01> i've set the empty and full icons for cairo-dock trash applet but it still wont show up. whats going on?
[15:18] <mike5> is there anything I can try on ubuntu before I do that?
[15:18] <beeman_nl> dammit this sucks :(
[15:18] <beeman_nl> need to reboot to get the mouse back
[15:19] <myk_robinson> mike5: its best to start with the simplest thing. We need to determine if your wifi card is working at all, and this is the easiest way to test that
[15:19] <nikhil> myk_robinson: is it better to download from site instead of synaptic?
[15:19] <myk_robinson> nikhil: from the site will give you the latest version and help ensure that it is not just an issue of the older driver having a bug of some sort
[15:19] <mike5> hmmm. What happens if I disable encryption while I'm connected?
[15:20] <mike5> that is, I'm talking through this connection right now from my windows machine
[15:20] <myk_robinson> mike5: if it is wireless ,you will lose your connection
[15:20] <nikhil> myk_robinson: i hope so. btw thx so much
[15:20] <myk_robinson> mike5: you dont get an error or any complaint about incorrect password?
[15:20] <mike5> where do I look for that?
[15:20] <myk_robinson> mike5: what version of Ubuntu and what model wireless card, or laptop, or whatever
[15:21] <mike5> ok, its 9.10 from yesterday
[15:21] <mike5> 64bit
[15:21] <mike5> and the card is .... intel 5100 something...
[15:21] <myk_robinson> mike5: are you able to connect it by ethernet cable and run all updates?
[15:21] <nastas> mike5: ubuntu machine is it finding your wireless network?
[15:21] <mike5> let me check...
[15:22] <mike5> hmmm, let me find some network cable...
[15:22] <nikhil> myk_robinson: in the Hplip toolbox, there is an option which says "Install required plugin". when i click on it, nothing happens.  maybe if that is done, problem will be solved?
[15:23] <myk_robinson> nikhil: that's the part i dont understand, I dont think the plugin is required. But the newer driver is leaps ahead of the one you are using
[15:23] <jaypur> does any1 know some soft. like m$ sam?? for linux? i'd like to make some robot speaking...
[15:23] <mike5> I'll be back...
[15:24] <emperrorr> anyone can tell me..? what is ubufox exactly?
[15:24] <nikhil> myk_robinson: maybe i will just uninstall and reinstall hplip from the site.
[15:25] <myk_robinson> jaypur: try Festival, should be in the repository
[15:25] <jaypur> myk_robinson, k brb
[15:25] <oCean_> !info ubufox | emperrorr
[15:27] <emperrorr> thx
[15:28] <Jovaras> My hard drive has got many bad sectors, and when I try to install ubuntu it performs check on bad sectors and it keeps going forever. I think it's "badblocks -v /dev/hdx ". Is there any way to skip this check before installing?
[15:28] <jeerum> hi
[15:28] <joph> hi
[15:28] <jeerum> why is soo hard to get streaming to server?
[15:29] <jeerum> in ubuntu?
[15:29] <jeerum> now i have tryd over 2 days
[15:29] <Dubai> hello
[15:30] <joph> many things are hard to achieve in linux
[15:30] <jeerum> :D
[15:31] <jeerum> but is there any solution?
[15:31] <joph> i don't know sorry :) i'm very new to it and have questions, too :]
[15:32] <viktorfulop> gee, thanks for not helping me but helping everyone else...
[15:32] <joph> everyone else lol
[15:32] <joph> did you try vlc player, jeerum?
[15:33] <joph> i used vlc player in windows and streaming wasn't that hard
[15:34] <jeerum> toyou can stream to shoutcast serverfr
[15:35] <jeerum> ?
[15:35] <joph> is there anyone, who got cs (steam) working on an ati radeon hd 4850 with -nearly good- performance?
[15:35] <myk_robinson> jaypur: figure it out?
[15:35] <jaypur> myk_robinson, installing X)
[15:35] <joph> i don't know jeerum, but i don't think so
[15:35] <stanman246_> hi anyone knows a way to split avi files into clips?
[15:36] <myk_robinson> jaypur: the syntax once you run Festival is       (SayText "place text to be spoken inside double quotes")    This all must be enclosed in parethesis
[15:36] <joph> do you try streaming to shoutcast with winamp, jeerum?
[15:36] <myk_robinson> jaypur: it can also read a file
[15:36] <_raven> i have problems mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please
[15:36] <myk_robinson> jaypur: once you run festival from the console, type help for more syntax/commands
[15:36] <jaypur> myk_robinson, it runs at terminal?
[15:36] <myk_robinson> jaypur: yes
[15:36] <jaypur> how can i record ???
[15:37] <myk_robinson> jaypur: that, i'm not sure. Perhaps i didnt understand your application
[15:37] <beeman_nl> hmm i just filed this bug against my mouse problems https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/511590
[15:37] <myk_robinson> jaypur: sorry, I have to go out on a service call. Hopefully someone else can pickup where we left off and help you out
[15:38] <beeman_nl> if anyone has some idea's i'd be happy to test them :)
[15:38] <jaypur> myk_robinson, hmmm i think i'll look about this, i'd like to make a robot talking for a readio... i'll check this later thanks a lot friend
[15:38] <Lizak> p
[15:39] <joph> jeerum: i think there should be a list of supported applications on the shoutcast homepage, most apps need a plugin to stream
[15:39] <g0th> Hi I just installed thunderbird 3.1. When I fetch my mails from the pop3 account (secure connection) I get the following alert: "Error getting mail password."
[15:39] <jeerum> joph i have looked
[15:40] <g0th> any idea how to fix this?
[15:40] <jeerum> but nothing understand
[15:40] <jeerum> there is some apps that runs on terminal
[15:40] <jeerum> i need some with gui
[15:42] <joph> do you want the listeners to connect to YOUR ip address or to another ip address?
[15:42] <jeerum> to another ip
[15:42] <jeerum> i have vps
[15:42] <joph> ah okay
[15:42] <joph> vps?
[15:42] <jeerum> virtual private server
[15:42] <g0th> Hi I just installed thunderbird 3.1. When I fetch my mails from the pop3 account (secure connection) I get the following alert: "Error getting mail password." Any idea how to fix this?
[15:43] <joph> and that server has got a shoutcast app running? or is it the server you want to configure?
[15:44] <g0th> anyone?
[15:44] <joph> g0th, did you type in your password? :)
[15:45] <mike5> ok. 199 updates installed
[15:45] <g0th> joph: I did for thunderbird 3.0
[15:45] <joph> the information you are giving is a little poor
[15:45] <mike5> let me  see if wireless works now
[15:45] <g0th> joph: then I simply removed tb 3.0 and installed tb 3.1
[15:45] <llutz> g0th: it's beta, so ask devs, write bugreport
[15:45] <g0th> what other information do you need?
[15:46] <joph> maybe llutz is more into this
[15:46] <g0th> llutz: I think it is a very common problem (from my google search)
[15:46] <jeerum> jph Server is running http://puurmani.com:8000
[15:46] <llutz> joph: nope
[15:46] <joph> and you tried to reconfigure tb?
[15:46] <g0th> I didn't find anything that solves the issue though
[15:46] <g0th> how?
[15:47] <g0th> I mean reconfigure what/how?
[15:47] <joph> normal gui settings
[15:47] <g0th> in the preferences it doesnt list any saved passwords
[15:47] <g0th> hmm
[15:48] <mtaftm> hello everyone, got my cam sorted, its a bit dark how would i go about sorting the quality out?
[15:48] <joph> that's what i'm talking bout :)
[15:48] <guja> Hello all. Anyone managed to install and run Visual Studio 2008 in Ubuntu without using Virtual Machine or making Win-Ubuntu dual boot?
[15:48] <joph> jeerum: i'll try to connect as listener to test
[15:48] <g0th> joph: what do you mean?
[15:49] <stanman246> what software should i use for 'clipping' up one big avi?
[15:49] <mtaftm> guja: you tried wine mate?
[15:49] <g0th> joph: what do I need to do?
[15:49] <g0th> stanman246: clipping up how?
[15:49] <xxthink> Are there some thread profile tool under linux?
[15:49] <joph> if there ain't no saved passwords listed maybe they're lost and you need to re-save em?
[15:49] <g0th> how?
[15:49] <guja> mtaftm, wine can't handle VS2008.
[15:49] <jeerum> joph its working on server
[15:49] <mtaftm> oh right sorry
[15:50] <joph> by typing 'em in whereever you did that before
[15:50] <jeerum> now its another streamer, but i want do it my self
[15:50] <stanman246> g0th: i'd like to make seperate clips out of one avi, would be nice if the clips are the scene changes
[15:50] <joph> ah i c jee
[15:51] <mike5> so, where do I check for my wireless errors?
[15:51] <shadow120> anyone know of a GUI for john the ripper?
[15:52] <mike5> also, where can I change my GRUB settings? The menu order, default OS, things like that?
[15:52] <g0th> stanman246: hmm, so something like clipping in the time direction? sorry at first though I don't know
[15:52] <joph> jeerum: did you search synaptic for "shoutcast"?
[15:52] <perlsyntax> How can i do this in linux see how fast my cpu are?
[15:52] <g0th> joph: where can I type the passwords?
[15:52] <perlsyntax> is there away
[15:52] <jeerum> joph no
[15:53] <jeerum> what it is?
[15:53] <joph> g0th: you said you were using the previous version of tb, didn't you type in any passwords before?
[15:54] <g0th> joph: yes in the previous version
[15:54] <xxthink> Are there some thread profile tool under linux?
[15:54] <perlsyntax> How can i check my cpu speed in ubuntu?
[15:54] <g0th> joph: and after having typed them in I can't type them in anymore
[15:54] <mike5> where can I change my GRUB settings? The menu order, default OS, things like that?
[15:54] <joph> jeerum: you want to stream to a shoutcast server, don't you? so you can search synaptic for "shoutcast" to find plugins or stand-alone-apps to do this
[15:54] <g0th> joph: since the "master password service"/whatever  is dealing with it
[15:54] <LjL> perlsyntax: cat /proc/cpuinfo will give you the mhz and the bogomips
[15:55] <perlsyntax> thanks
[15:55] <joph> g0th: ok i think you have to remove it completely
[15:55] <oCean_> mike5: read up on grub2 config here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[15:55] <g0th> joph: remove what?
[15:55] <arand> mike5:  using grub or grub2? (if fresh-install of 9.10, -> grub2)
[15:55] <mike5> tnx
[15:55] <jeerum> ok now i understand, i have searched in synaptic manager
[15:55] <jeerum> and in google
[15:56] <jeerum> there is some, but not working on me
[15:56] <g0th> joph?
[15:56] <KayLii> bjr
[15:56] <g0th> ...
[15:57] <g0th> hmpf
[15:57] <g0th> I will downgrade to tb 3.0 then
[15:58] <ayaz> hi
[15:58] <g0th> it can't be that the basic mail functionality doesnt work :-(
[15:58] <_raven> i have problems mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please
[15:58] <llutz> g0th: tb lacks basic functions since ever
[15:58] <joph> g0th: remove tb
[15:58] <the_real_dave> !hi | ayaz
[15:58] <Jef91> Ok - I'm feeling beyond stupid right now
[15:58] <Jef91> How on earth do I install a custom font in Ubunut?
[15:58] <Jef91> Ubuntu*
[15:59] <oCean_> Jef91: basics are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[15:59] <the_real_dave> Jef91: Try copying it to /usr/share/fonts/truetype ?
[15:59] <joph> jeerum: try using xmms2 + xmm2-plugin-icymetaint <- maybe that helps
[15:59] <mike5> tnx. I'll be back to troubleshoot wireless later.
[15:59] <jeerum> sthanks i will
[15:59] <joph> xmm2 = xmms2 :D
[16:00] <mikebeecham> kostkon: thanks mate...I added the ppa, removed wine and re-installed.  All is good now mate.
[16:01] <Jef91> oCean_ / the_real_dave - will I need to restart my application for it to see the fonts after I move my fonts there?
[16:01] <Jef91> nvm - I do not
[16:01] <joph> g0th: hope that works, if it doesn't you need to completely remove tb (incl. folder[s]) and reinstall it so that you're beginning from zero
[16:02] <the_real_dave> Jef91: probably, though I'm not sure. I know if I change font in Conky I have to start it again so maybe
[16:03] <z3rongod_> First of all pardon my ignorance and even maybe for the offtopic, but I don't know where else to ask and I'm sure there might be someone to answer this issue. I am currently running a game server, and 50 fake game servers.  I am trying to figure out how to use less resources for the fake servers. They are currently being run on wi
[16:05] <llutz> !ot | z3rongod_ you are right, it's off-topic here
[16:05] <g0th> joph: that's not an option
[16:05] <g0th> joph: I have like 100 folders with over 50'000 sorted mails/etc and several hundred rules
[16:05] <joph> g0th: ah because you need the received mails huh?
[16:06] <joph> uh ye
[16:06] <g0th> so I won't retype everything, sorry
[16:06] <g0th> not an option
[16:06] <llutz> g0th: get it back from backup later
[16:06] <g0th> I want to keep the account settings, folder settings, filter settings, etc
[16:07] <g0th> and of course where the messages are stored
[16:07] <g0th> those are all things that take a _very_ long time to "redo"
[16:07] <joph> is it already stable?
[16:07] <llutz> g0th: why dou you use alpha/beta-software then?
[16:07] <joph> that'd have been my next question :D
[16:07] <g0th> llutz: my current solution is indeed to downgrade to tb 3.0
[16:08] <llutz> g0th: hopefully your profile still works
[16:08] <g0th> yes I hope
[16:08] <g0th> I am a bit angry at the tb devs
[16:08] <Ranakah> hi everybody.. what packet i need to install for "ip" command?
[16:08] <joph> else you know next time not to use them :)
[16:08] <g0th> the main thing should be that basic functionality keeps working
[16:08] <llutz> g0th you are the only one to be angry at
[16:08] <g0th> no matter if it is beta or alpha or stable
[16:09] <om26er> g0th, do you pay them?
[16:09] <joph> how did you upgrade?
[16:09] <llutz> epic fail
[16:09] <g0th> om26er: of course not, lol
[16:09] <g0th> pay for failure?
[16:09] <g0th> ^^
[16:09] <militant> can i install 9.10 remotely?  like if i have a box i wanna stick under my desk headless, can i start an ubuntu install from a usb stick and telnet/ssh in to actually run it?
[16:10] <oCean_> Ranakah: package iproute
[16:10] <Ranakah> oCean_ tnx :)
[16:10] <militant> to do the install that is.  kuz i don't wanna have to hook up the other monitor just for a 30 minute install
[16:10] <llutz> g0th: you sound like: whaaa, mama, they broke my toy....    so go to #thunderbird and whine there.
[16:10] <gui7> anyone know if there are any advantadges on using unetbootin to "burn" an ubuntu iso to disk as opposed to just using dd?
[16:10] <joph> i prefer to wine :D
[16:10] <g0th> llutz: no, I simply sound angry
[16:11] <oCean_> Ranakah: tip: at packages.ubuntu.com you can search on package name and package content.
[16:11] <om26er> gui7, its easy
[16:11] <g0th> llutz: this is already the third time a tb upgrade caused problems
[16:11] <om26er> gui7, it installs the boot loader
[16:11] <llutz> g0th: tb is crap, was crap, will ever be crap, so use something working next
[16:11] <g0th> anyway I already talked to the guys in thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org
[16:11] <g0th> thanks for your help
[16:11] <g0th> bye
[16:11] <llutz> g0th: but we're off-topic here, so
[16:11] <gui7> om26er, i meant to burn the .iso to a flash/USB drive - wouldn't it be exactly the same thing as if i just used dd?
[16:12] <om26er> gui7, no, it won't boot
[16:12] <robb> would removing xserver-xorg-* packages and then reinstalling them reload the ubuntu-provided drivers for video cards?
[16:12] <om26er> gui7, either use unetbootin or ubuntu's own usb-creator-gtk
[16:12] <gui7> om26er, ah ok. do you know why?
[16:13] <joph> does anyone know what i gotta do to play counter-strike the way it should be with an ati radeon hd 4850? (but on linux)
[16:13] <om26er> gui7, dd just copies the contents and does not install the bootloader on the usb to boot
[16:13] <robb> !binarydrivers | joph
[16:13] <Xbert> joph, you need to run it thru wine
[16:14] <joph> Xbert: i have wine installed, 3d accel is working, prop driver installed (catalyst 9.12)
[16:14] <joph> Xbert: wine ver. 1.1.36
[16:15] <militant> does anyone know if telnetd or sshd is running during an install
[16:15] <joph> steam is installed, sound driver is set to alsa, sound simulated at 44k ( tried 22k too)
[16:15] <joph> tried pixel shader on/off
[16:16] <llutz> militant: very unlikely
[16:16] <militant> llutz, i wouldn't think so either.  just looking for ways to do an install without dragging a monitor in here
[16:17] <jeffmr> anyone want to help me test sharing my itunes library remotely?
[16:17] <llutz> militant: debootstrap
[16:17] <militant> oh?  ok.  checking into that.
[16:17] <mynameisdeleted> I'm using 9.10 and had an upgrade where it wrote /boot/grub/menu.lst to a bad part of drive outside the bioses reach
[16:18] <mynameisdeleted> its easy enough to fix by deleting and recreating the file after you enter grub commands manually
[16:18] <jeffmr> it can be done using a program called simplifymedia
[16:18] <emperor> haha
[16:18] <mynameisdeleted> but I'm curious why that generally happens
[16:18] <mynameisdeleted> on kernel upgrades sometimes
[16:18] <emperor> ik ben thom
[16:18] <mynameisdeleted> most noobs will give linux up if they see broken grub config file
[16:18] <emperor> kut
[16:18] <MidasManchu> Hey mates, anyone know why Firefox is sluggish on 64-bit nix ubuntu during the connecting, handshaking, and retrieval phases?  This is a non-problem in opera, which makes me wonder about Firefox's networking code
[16:18] <Xbert> joph, try this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304528
[16:19] <emperor> kan het ook in nederlands
[16:19] <om26er> MidasManchu, try chromium
[16:19] <ChogyDan> mynameisdeleted: have you tried grub2?
[16:19] <militant> llutz, not seeing how debootstrap does this?  still looking thru it though
[16:20] <chistesx> anyone know software to ping automatic ubuntu
[16:20] <om26er> !nl | emperor
[16:20] <MidasManchu> om26er, no can do; I have too many tools on firefox that don't port over
[16:20] <llutz> militant: needs a running system on the machine you want install to. ssh to it, mount target-partition and debootstrap then
[16:21] <emperor> he
[16:21] <sandro_> ciao
[16:21] <emperor> ik
[16:21] <emperor> heet
[16:21] <emperor> geen
[16:21] <emperor> dude
[16:21] <FloodBot4> emperor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:21] <militant> hmmmm well there is an option, yes.  there's an existing ubuntu install on the box, i could do that
[16:21] <joph> robb: i'm so happy to have my system up and running with 3d accel. do you know that i won't shoot it down with that binary drivers?
[16:21] <robb> hehe
[16:21] <robb> you wouldn't believe what i've been thru with video drivers...
[16:21] <_raven> i have problems mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please
[16:21] <arand> mynameisdeleted: if it is a "well defined" and clear issue reporting a bug about it might be a good idea, if there aren't already one.
[16:22] <joph> so you're using an ati too, huh? ;)
[16:22] <mynameisdeleted> I think grub2 can possibly break... the issue is it shoudl test a config file before upgrading a config file
[16:22] <mynameisdeleted> and if it doesnt work revert
[16:22] <mynameisdeleted> grub config can be tested without a reboot
[16:22] <mynameisdeleted> and woudl have caught this
[16:22] <emperor> email is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>mail mme
[16:22] <mynameisdeleted> by running grub as a process during runtime
[16:22] <om26er> !enter | mynameisdeleted
[16:22] <joph> robb: you're using an ati gc too?
[16:23] <LjL> emperor: wrong channel for spamming email addresses.
[16:23] <emperor> ljl wat is dat voor naam
[16:23] <LjL> !nl | emperor
[16:23] <llutz> LjL: just a troll
[16:24] <bazhang> emperor, did you have a support question? #ubuntu-nl for dutch
[16:24] <needhelp1> What would it take for ubuntu to switch from nm applet to wicd ?
[16:24] <emperor> spectrobes is cool  he
[16:24] <needhelp1> for default install
[16:24] <jrib> needhelp1: you mean you want to change the way ubuntu is distributed?
[16:24] <LjL> needhelp1: a good question for #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[16:24] <bazhang> emperor, please take chat elsewhere
[16:24] <om26er> needhelp1, 10/100
[16:24] <kad_> hey need help! my wireless don't work except in user root why ? when i go to terminal issue: iwlist nothing appear when i switch to user: root and issue: itwlist scan the wireless AP appear! how i can fix this ?
[16:24] <maverick> after upgrading alsa to 1.0.22, i can hear sounds from youtube and games, but i receive no sound from media players..everything in alsamixer is set to full..i dont have pulseaudio...information about my sound is here http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=515a37a264764bf727dd1617fc86a5895bc23240...help please?
[16:25] <robb> joph: trying to get a geforce2 ti + ati rage 3d to work simultaneously
[16:25]  * om26er thinks '10' is even more
[16:25] <joph> o_O
[16:25] <needhelp1> jrib: yeah
[16:25] <robb> yep :)
[16:26] <Edgar> hello
[16:26] <joph> robb: lol never heard of such an approach
[16:26] <needhelp1> wicd works as far as i can tell better than nm applet, nmapplet gives me so much issues its not funny.
[16:26] <om26er> !hello | Edgar
[16:26] <needhelp1> and this issue seems pretty wide with ubuntu users
[16:26] <Edgar> hey
[16:26] <Edgar> im mexican
[16:26] <om26er> needhelp1, remove nm and install wicd
[16:26] <robb> joph: apparently issues with the ati card drivers being insecure
[16:26] <robb> and no support on 9.10 for geforce2 ti drivers
[16:27] <Edgar> are you from us
[16:27] <robb> (binaries of both)
[16:27] <Edgar> ??
[16:27] <damjanzg> Anybody know how to install a J programing language in ubuntu?
[16:27] <om26er> Edgar, this channel is english only
[16:27] <bazhang> Edgar, this is for support; #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[16:27] <joph> but u got this to work? sounds amazing :D
[16:27] <mauri> vlc is taking a lot of memory with the time passing
[16:27] <robb> no, it's not working
[16:27] <needhelp1> om26er: i have, like 20 times and for a ton of my friends
[16:27] <_raven> i have problems mounting an ENCRYPTED HOME folder - need help please
[16:28] <needhelp1> om26er: this to me seems like a big issue gone unresolved for a while
[16:28] <joph> ah okay
[16:28] <surf> hi. I had problems with the wifi connection so I installed wicd. Now it's ok but my eth connection keeps disconnetting.
[16:28] <protojay> makes
[16:28] <the_real_dave> Hi Ubuntuers :) Not an Ubuntu question really, but I'm thinking of upgrading my current 2.
[16:28] <Diverdude> I have 2 very simple scripts ( see: http://pastebin.com/m59daddec) who each opens up a terminal window. Is it possible to fuse these 2 scripts into a single script which first opens a terminal, executes the ssh in this terminal, then open a new tab in that terminal window and executes the second script in that terminal window tab?
[16:28] <joph> robb: do you know more about gaming on ati?
[16:29] <kad_> hey need help! my wireless don't work except in user root why ? when i go to terminal issue: iwlist nothing appear when i switch to user: root and issue: itwlist scan the wireless AP appear! how i can fix this ?
[16:29] <chistesx> I need find software make ping automatic ubuntu can anyone help me?
[16:30] <om26er_> needhelp1, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+filebug
[16:30] <the_real_dave> Hi Ubuntuers :) Not an Ubuntu question really, but I'm thinking of upgrading my current 2.4Ghz (128/400 and OCd to 3Ghz) Celeron to a 2.8Ghz Pentium 4 (512/533). Offtopic I know, but will there be much of a difference in power?
[16:30] <bazhang> the_real_dave, try in ##hardware as it is offtopic here
[16:30] <petsounds> my brain is about to melt, my iPod is no longer detected with gtkpod or other ipod software. any clue? :(
[16:31] <bazhang> petsounds, which version of ubuntu and which ipod
[16:31] <maverick> after upgrading alsa to 1.0.22, i can hear sounds from youtube and games, but i receive no sound from media players..everything in alsamixer is set to full..i dont have pulseaudio...information about my sound is here http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=515a37a264764bf727dd1617fc86a5895bc23240 ...help please?
[16:31] <petsounds> bazhang, karmic & iPod shuffle
[16:31] <bazhang> petsounds, rhythmbox does it fine for those two here
[16:32] <the_real_dave> chistesx: I've something that might interest you. Its a script for Conky but it might do the job. http://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2009/12/20/conky-ip-monitor/
[16:32] <robb> joph: no, sorry
[16:32] <the_real_dave> bazhang: Thanks :)
[16:33] <joph> robb: nobody may know everything ;)
[16:33] <robb> i know nothing :)
[16:34] <joph> just like me
[16:34] <chistesx> thanks for answer
[16:34] <robb> with linux, get used to it
[16:34] <robb> nice that so many do know lots
[16:35] <joph> Xbert: the problem is, that most articles are about counter-strike source, like this one. i want to play cs1.6 and i didn't find helpful stuff at google. i don't know if i need to downgrade my kernel (2.6.31-14), my distro (9.10), if i need another gc-driver (prop cat 9.12) or what ever i need to do :S
[16:35] <robb> joph: depending on family of video card, may need to go back to 8.04
[16:35] <Diverdude> I have 2 very simple scripts ( see: http://pastebin.com/m59daddec) who each opens up a terminal window. Is it possible to fuse these 2 scripts into a single script which first opens a terminal, executes the ssh in this terminal, then open a new tab in that terminal window and executes the second script in that terminal window tab?
[16:35] <robb> this is what it seems to me, at least
[16:35] <petsounds> bazhang, please take a look at this scrrenshot http://is.gd/6SDXj
[16:36] <robb> 9.10 seems to have limited support
[16:36] <joph> robb: yeah linux is an os that stimulates the brain and makes it easier to learn because you know it from the beginning that you need to investigate :D
[16:36] <robb> well said
[16:37] <bazhang> petsounds, never tried gtkpod as rhythmbox always worked with many versions and models of iPod
[16:37] <apanda> hey guys. i'm trying to boot an ubuntu 8.04 at an amd k6 something 400mhz pc with 256mb ram, i've already tried acpi off and all other "extended options" and also to boot in video safe mode, but it wont get past the booting screen. i thought maybe a 6.06 live cd could still boot on that old hardware, but i cant find a download for that
[16:37] <joph> robb: it is not really old (ati radeon hd 4850)
[16:38] <robb> joph: if you have binary drivers loaded, that's probably as good as it gets
[16:38] <om26er_> apanda, http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[16:38] <dbdii407> Question. You guys know the placeholder page on lighttpd?
[16:39] <om26er_> apanda, ahh sorry for the link
[16:39] <joph> hum
[16:39] <sebsebseb> !6.06 |  apanda  om26er_
[16:40]  * om26er_ sorried for that
[16:40] <mike5> hi all. I'm back and still trying to setup wireless networking on my computer.
[16:40] <petsounds> bazhang, when you plug in the usb do you see new device in desktop? because i don't.
[16:40] <joph> well, i'm using the most recent ones (downloaded from ati hp is binary, isn't it? i'm not originally english, i'm german, sorry :)
[16:40] <sebsebseb> om26er_: yeah a bit silly to be recommending it to someone now, in this case apanda
[16:41] <administrator> hi
[16:41] <sebsebseb> om26er_: what's up with 8.04 on there, did you have a working install?  also there are other distros that are specifically designed for older hardware
[16:41] <bazhang> petsounds, yes, though some models appear as usb storage device on desktop; rhythmbox c orrectly identifies as iPods though
[16:41] <Guest45931> ok
[16:41] <sebsebseb> om26er_: whoops messaged wrong one just then, apanda see above please
[16:41] <Guest45931> Anyone Marathi here?
[16:42] <om26er_> !in | Guest45931
[16:42] <shane2peru> Ok, I can't seem to get the Realplayer plugin to work with FF3?  It doesn't show up?  I installed via medibuntu repos and followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealPlayerInstallationMethods  Any help would be appreciated.
[16:43] <aLiiCiia> ola
[16:43] <mike5> what logs do I check to see any error messages from my wireless adapter?
[16:43] <dbdii407> Anyone?
[16:43] <om26er_> !hi | dbdii407
[16:43] <dbdii407> I already asked. :P
[16:44] <emperor> hahaham im am the emperor
[16:44] <pa7hfinder> any IBMers here/
[16:44] <emperor> no
[16:44] <dbdii407> You guys know the placeholder page on lighttpd?
[16:44] <IceDane> Anyone here ever used bootchart to measure boot time? I'm looking at my aful boot chart, and it's logging stuff that's way past logging in.. Me starting a terminal, all the window manager stuff, irssi, etc. I know that's not right.
[16:44] <emperor> huh
[16:44] <the_real_dave> !ot | emperor
[16:44] <sebsebseb> dbdii407: try #php
[16:44] <mike5> I see wpa_supplicant is reporting CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULT
[16:45] <bazhang> emperor, this is for support only. chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:45] <sebsebseb> dbdii407: or is it ##php hrm
[16:45] <apanda> ok i know 6.06 desktop support has ended, i just need a live cd of it, i think the amd k6-2 or something processors are no longer supported by the new kernels in 8.04 etc
[16:45] <joph> robb: you won't believe what i'm gone through the last week. i installed ubuntu with wubi and went through so many traps with my ati again and again... got blackscreens at boot... kernel upgrade -> unable to mount fs ... etc etc etc :D everything in the past week and i'm glad to be (nearly through with that) but i'm happy to know what i know now :) and it ain't enough yet and i didn't reach my minimal and easy goal of playing counterstrike
[16:45] <joph>  in linux. that can't be that hard ... darn
[16:45] <the_real_dave> IceDane: yup, its really useful :) Nice to have a proper graph
[16:45] <dbdii407> sebsebseb: I don't think they would have the info I'm looking for
[16:45] <IceDane> the_real_dave: ever had the problems i'm having?
[16:45] <sebsebseb> dbdii407: http not php  just seen that properly, there is a channel for your kind of issue though,  well there's ##networking sure, but I think there's something else as well
[16:45] <dbdii407> sebsebseb: I do believe the page was written by the Ubuntu peeps?
[16:45] <robb> joph: welcome to doing it yourself :D
[16:46] <emperor> youtube vampire knigt
[16:46] <the_real_dave> IceDane: no :( what version of bootchart and ubuntu release are you using?
[16:46] <emperor> looking
[16:46] <ayaz> I have a problem with Conduit
[16:46] <emperor> fat
[16:46] <sebsebseb> dbdii407: what page?
[16:46] <IceDane> the_real_dave: 9.10, the one in the repos.
[16:46] <dbdii407> sebsebseb: The placeholder page
[16:46] <om26er_> emperor, please type /part and press enter
[16:46] <joph> robb: so you think a downgrade (of anything) may be necessary?
[16:47] <toni_> hola
[16:47] <the_real_dave> can you upload one of the graphs using Omploader.org?
[16:47] <robb> like i said, depends on hardware version, seems 9.10 should support most newer ati/nvidia cards with binary drivers quite well
[16:47] <robb> and it's own drivers (less 3d support tho)
[16:47] <IceDane> the_real_dave: sec
[16:48] <sebsebseb> dbdii407: lighthttpd is not written by Ubuntu as far as I know.  I mean most packages in the Ubuntu repo aren't written by Ubuntu developers.
[16:48] <om26er_> !sp | toni_
[16:48] <acalbaza> if i have an empty partition, would i be able to install another verion of ubuntu and have grub pick it up?  or do i need to do perform dual booting magic outside of the install process?
[16:49] <joph> robb: but i'm not using the most recent version of ubu, cuz then i get "unable to mount root fs" and "vfs" anything ^
[16:49] <apanda> ok looks like ubuntu isnt meant for amd k6-2 cpus
[16:49] <robb> hehe
[16:49] <robb> sounds messed
[16:49] <sebsebseb> acalbaza: I found out earlier that apparantly Grub 2 has issues with multi booting.   So I guess if it's the old Grub sure.  Also with enough RAM and  such you could virtual machine the other Ubuntu.
[16:50] <dbdii407> sebsebseb: I know that. But I don't think, If i remember correctly, that the placeholder page was written by lighttpd
[16:50] <robb> apanda: those should be x86 chipsets, should work
[16:50] <sebsebseb> apanda: yeah probably not,  anyway is that some really old CPU?
[16:50] <joph> yap. deinstalled it via synapt. after that lovely boot messages -g-
[16:50] <IceDane> the_real_dave: if you scroll down far enough, you can see urxvt, irssi, all the wmii related stuff. It shouldn't be logging it.
[16:50] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know if this card support by ubuntu ATI Radeon HD 4350 512MB ?
[16:50] <perlsyntax> is good 3d for linux
[16:50] <dbdii407> sebsebseb: In fact, I only get it when i install it with sudo apt-get
[16:50] <apanda> amd k6-2 400 mhz. i think all newer linux kernels dont support that any longer
[16:50] <InvaderZim> Why when theres a kernel upgrade, the pkgmanager doesnt remove the old kernel and the old initrd?
[16:51] <sebsebseb> dbdii407: ok well I don't know
[16:51] <IdleOne> InvaderZim: just in case the new kernel doesn't place nice with your hardware
[16:51] <IceDane> InvaderZim: Because the kernel can fuck up.
[16:51] <acalbaza> sebsebseb: i want to use my radeon 850xt card in jaunty... my card craps out in koala since they reved xorg and the latest catalyst drivers dont support my radeon.... kinda bummed about it.
[16:51] <IdleOne> IceDane: please watch your language
[16:51] <apanda> altho k6-2 is x86 compatible afaik ;)
[16:51] <swiftarrow> Hi!  I need to revert my ubuntu Xorg driver to intel 2.4 in karmic  Can someone please guide me?  Thanks!
[16:51] <sebsebseb> apanda: Puppy Linux  and  Damn Small Linux are designed for rather old hardware
[16:51] <arand> InvaderZim: To have a fallback option.
[16:51] <joph> do i need to change from 64 to 32 bit ubu to play games on wine with mentionable performance?
[16:51] <IceDane> In which case you don't want to be stuck with only your new kernel.
[16:51] <InvaderZim> oh so after about 10 upgrades I will have a little party with grub menu and the /boot dir
[16:51] <IceDane> Oh god. Does this channel forbid profanity?
[16:52] <IdleOne> IceDane: yes
[16:52] <IceDane> that's only one step below censoring topics.
[16:52] <papul> where are the .so files located?
[16:52] <apanda> yeah i know, thanks :) i was trying to get ubuntu because i'm used to it a bit and its nice. i have a working puppy here too, will give that a go, ty
[16:52] <Stereocaulon> Problems: 1) Sound 5.1 does not work correctly both on Pulse and ALSA, though it does show up on Alsamixer. 2 Every SDL-game crashes. 3 Youtube and many other Flash-sites crash FF when Flash Player alpha from Adobe is installed. System: Ubu 9.10 64 Bits, snd HDA-Intel, vid: nVidia 9800 using nVidia drivers
[16:52] <thom_> emperor 15
[16:52] <the_real_dave> IceDane: ya, it should stop before kdm starts. I've never seen that before. Try asking in the bootchart thread in the Ubuntu Forums Cafe?
[16:52] <papul> where are the .so files located?
[16:53] <IdleOne> InvaderZim: you can remove the old kernels using Synaptic if you like
[16:53] <sebsebseb> apanda: ok well  have fun with that old computer I guess and np
[16:53] <IceDane> the_real_dave: Just ubuntuforums.org or something?
[16:53] <ChogyDan> anyone know about applying patches?  It is complaining that it can't find the file, but it is comparing to /dev/null which looks like it is supposed to create the file
[16:53] <Stereocaulon> papul: locate .so
[16:53] <om26er_> !lubuntu
[16:53] <InvaderZim> IdleOne: i remeber one time when I tried removing it, and it seemed a lot of programs depended on it
[16:53] <thom_> download kut
[16:53] <thom_> sex?
[16:53] <bazhang> thom_, did you have a support question?
[16:54] <JesusSuperstar> male
[16:54] <JesusSuperstar> :P
[16:54] <toni_> hay alguien español o española?
[16:54] <bazhang> thom_, stop or you will be removed
[16:54] <thom_> kutto
[16:54] <Stereocaulon> !ot | thom_
[16:54] <IdleOne> !es | toni_
[16:54] <bazhang> toni_, #ubuntu-es
[16:54] <toni_> thanks
[16:54] <thom_> sukkel
[16:54] <acalbaza> how can i tell what version of grub?
[16:55] <the_real_dave> IceDane: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=531453&page=69
[16:56] <joph> may it be necessery to use 32bit ubuntu to play counter-strike 1.6 on wine with better performance?
[16:56] <the_real_dave> IceDane: bear in mind though that it's not a support thread, so your question might be better placed in the general help section
[16:57] <IceDane> the_real_dave: Yeah, I'm writing a thread there. Thanks
[16:57] <armenb> Hi I've got a really dumb question: Can someone give me a URL of an ubuntu 9.10 desktop ISO?
[16:57] <armenb> the ubuntu.com webpage sucks and uses some awful redirection mechanism, which makes it hard for me to get the URL to paste to curl or wget.
[16:57] <BlouBlou> armenb: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[16:58] <armenb> BlouBlou: that's exactly what I'm talking about. that webpage sucks.
[16:58] <erUSUL> armenb: wwww.ubuntu.com/download ?
[16:58] <needhelp1> who here uses wicd ?
[16:58] <armenb> I want the URL of the ISO, not the download webpage.
[16:58] <the_real_dave> needhelp1: I do :)
[16:58] <BlouBlou> armenb: maybe torrent?
[16:58] <bazhang> armenb, hang on a second
[16:58] <armenb> I don't want a torrent though.
[16:58] <needhelp1> the_real_dave: and anyone else that uses wicd .. have you tried using 1.7 or are you still using 1.6.1 ?
[16:58] <steffan> armenb: #ubuntu-website is their channel - i'm sure they welcome suggestions there
[16:58] <bishal> bishok
[16:59] <armenb> oh, interesting, i didn't know that..thanks steffan
[16:59] <steffan> armenb: no problem
[16:59] <the_real_dave> needhelp1: I'm back on 1.5.9 :(
[16:59] <bazhang> http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ armenb
[16:59] <needhelp1> the_real_dave: why 1.5.9?
[17:01] <the_real_dave> armenb: try a mirror like http://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/ubuntu-cdimage/ ?
[17:02] <armenb> the_real_dave: thanks. know of any on the east cost of the US? :-)
[17:02] <the_real_dave> needhelp1: I just grabbed the version from the repos, not realising there was a newer one. Is there much improvement?
[17:02] <needhelp1> yeah, but i want to try 1.7 but its not in the ubuntu repos
[17:02] <joph> armenb?
[17:03] <Stereocaulon> My 5.1 sound stopped working using either Pulse or ALSA. I'm on Ubu 9.10 64 Bits on HDA-Intel audio. I'm having a DVD evening next week and I'd like it to work by then. Tried lots of solutions offered by Ubuntu forums, but none worked properly...
[17:03] <the_real_dave> armenb: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors There's the full list :) Take your pick
[17:03] <armenb> damnit, that URL redirects to cdimage.ubuntu.com.
[17:03] <Link__> Hey, I think that I have found a very important bug in Ubuntu ;)
[17:03] <Link__> But I have never done bug reports before
[17:04] <oCean_> !bug | Link__
[17:04] <steffan> !bugs > Link__
[17:04] <Link__> Can someone help me ?
[17:04] <armenb> er, sorry nevermind.
[17:04] <bo7amny_> hlo ??
[17:04] <joph> armenb
[17:04] <joph> need 32 or 64 bit iso?
[17:04] <the_real_dave> armenb: Give an example of what's on the east coast and I'll send you the link :)
[17:04] <the_real_dave> armenb: My knowledge of american geography ain't great
[17:05] <oCean_> armenb: torrents is an option too for ubuntu iso's
[17:05] <_raven> cannot open ENCRYPTED HOME directory - help please
[17:06] <AresGodOfWar> raven did u setup your pw on install?
[17:06] <mynameisdeleted> so yeah... I'm forcing an fsck for my problem since I had kernels written outside the partition appearantly which seems like somethign is badly wrong
[17:06] <Stereocaulon> oCean_, armenb has already said that Torrents were not an option
[17:06] <mynameisdeleted> if I see it come up with stuff I'll prob move home irectory contents to another machine and re-install
[17:06] <bishal> g
[17:06] <mynameisdeleted> there were previous fsck troubles and its been through a lot of rough reboots
[17:06] <Xqtftqx_> hey, im having trouble starting pureftpd. i get: Fatal: unable to load module 'mod_lang.c': Operation not permitte
[17:06] <bishal> what
[17:07] <bishal> hey
[17:07] <IdleOne> !hi | bishal
[17:07] <bishal> very good
[17:07] <bishal> than u
[17:07] <bishal> ok
[17:07] <the_real_dave> armenb: Did you get it?
[17:07] <bishal> good