[23:39] <ilembitov> Hi, all. Where can I see the plans for the next Kubuntu release?
[23:41] <mefisto__> www.kubuntu.org
[23:46] <othellix> help
[23:47] <othellix> i dont have aq compiler
[23:48] <mefisto__> othellix: what happened? we just installed g++
[23:55] <othellix> yes
[23:55] <othellix> i have
[23:55] <othellix> sorry
[23:55] <othellix> firt i will read and then i will do
[23:55] <othellix> bye all tomorrow to work
[23:55] <othellix> :((
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[23:59] <mefisto__> can anyone recommend a replacement for ms publisher? scribus or openoffice draw? which is an easier transition for a publisher user? (I'm trying to wean someone off publisher)


[08:36] <BrianHechinger[m> FYI for you guys, virt-manager is the GUI front end to KVM. It's not the actual virt platform.
[08:36] <BrianHechinger[m> Also, wine can be made to do a lot of very useful things. As long as you don't need drivers installed.


[09:00] <JamesTait> Happy International Day of the Roma! :-D
[15:08] <tony_lech> So I bought a CD from the ubuntu one store, it's trying to "transfer the mp3s to [my] ubuntu one storage" and not actually succeeding. There's also a giant bar at the top of rhythmbox about how "your purchased music folder is not subscribed", but the subscribe button on it doesn't actually do anything.
[15:08] <tony_lech> TL;DR where's the music I bought? :(
[15:10] <davmor2> tony_lech: if you go to https://one.ubuntu.com/music/player/#view=artists do you see it there?
[15:11] <tony_lech> davmor2: Yeah. It looks like restarting rhythmbox got it working.
[15:13] <tony_lech> ...or makes it crash repeatedly. haha
[15:15] <tony_lech> So when I boot up rhythmbox and go to the UO downloads page, it will start downloading the songs, then crash after a few seconds.
[15:17] <davmor2> chaselivingston: is this something you have come across before ^
[15:20] <dobey> i haven't seen that before
[15:21] <dobey> ronwhat version of ubuntu are you on?
[15:21] <dobey> err
[15:21] <dobey> tony_lech: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[15:22] <tony_lech> dobey: 12.10
[15:22] <dobey> tony_lech: if you open the ubuntu one control panel app and go to the folders tab is "Purchased Music" selected to be synchronized?
[15:22] <tony_lech> dobey: I'm at the point where the UO app on my machine is trying to download the files, but nothing is coming in - just the folder structure. wondering if the corp firewall is in the way
[15:23] <tony_lech> Will try with another connection
[15:23] <dobey> not sure. i suspect that's not the issue though if you can get to the web site
[15:23] <tony_lech> assuming it doesn't download on port 80, it's probably getting toyed with
[15:24] <dobey> it's 443 (same as HTTPS)
[15:27] <dobey> the sync service is on a different sub-domain of the web site. so if you can get to the web site, then the client should connect and download stuff fine
[15:27] <dobey> u1sdtool --current-transfers might show some more info
[15:31] <tony_lech> Yeah that was it. It's going now.
[15:31] <tony_lech> Yay music


[14:24] <jcastro> heya pleia2
[14:24] <jcastro> pretend I have an issue I want to bring up to the CC
[14:24] <jcastro> but there's no CC
[14:24] <jcastro> what do I do?
[14:24] <elfy> you have to use the pretend CC jcastro
[14:26] <popey> jcastro<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:27] <jcastro> hah no seriously
[14:27] <jcastro> what happens if I mail the CC list
[14:28] <jcastro> does that go to /dev/null now?
[14:28] <jcastro> or some crazy popey cabal?
[14:28] <popey> the list still exists
[14:29] <jcastro> so are they still counciling or is it like the US where they just go party? :p
[14:30] <popey> It's a tea party of course.
[14:32] <jcastro> your definition or ours? heh
[16:59] <pleia2> jcastro: the list is a lists.ubuntu.com list, completely separate from the launchpad team, so the "old" council is still on it and we're still playing CC until the new one comes in
[17:02] <jcastro> pleia2, ack, I sent my mail earlier
[17:02] <pleia2> YokoZar should be setting up the poll today for new CC, sabdfl +1ed the list yesterday
[17:02] <pleia2> and I saw :)


how to reload to use the latest package without logout/reboot? (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <arraybolt3[m]> (The full upgrade command is "sudo apt update && sudo apt -y full-upgrade". This gets all your packages up-to-date. It does not upgrade to a new release of Lubuntu, it just updates all your packages, which will pull in LXQt 1.1.0 when Lubuntu Backports is enabled.))


[03:12] <ken3322423> Has anyone had luck making Hyper terminal the default terminal? I installed it but it doesn't show in Terminal preferred applications in ubuntu mate
[03:22] <Menzador> Have you tried setting it using the command-line MIME editor?
[03:22] <ken3322423> Menzador: I have tried some terminal commands to no avail. Could you show me an example?
[03:23] <Menzador> ken3322423: What's HyperTerminal defined as in the apps folder? [ ls /usr/share/applications/ | grep -i hyper ]
[03:24] <ken3322423> Ah just "Hyper.desktop"
[03:25] <Menzador> [ xdg-mime default Hyper.desktop application/x-terminal-emulator ]
[03:25] <Menzador> It's case-sensitive btw
[03:25] <Menzador> I use Terminix
[03:29] <ken3322423> Hmm I don't understand, I ran that command but ctrl alt T still opens Mate Terminal :/
[03:30] <Menzador> See if [^][M]T is still linked directly to mate-terminal; if it is, just create a new shortcut to x-terminal-emulator
[03:31] <ken3322423> Sorry what do you mean by [^][M]T?
[03:31] <Menzador> Ctrl+Alt+T
[03:32] <Menzador> ^ is Primary, M is Meta
[03:35] <Astro7467> Have you tried ; update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator
[03:37] <Menzador> Gosh, I've done it again - I forgot that Ubuntu uses update-alternatives :P
[03:37] <Astro7467> alternative is you just want the shortcut key to be assigned to Hyper is to clear the defualt and create a custome shortcut for Ctrl-Alt-T in Control Centre -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:38] <Menzador> Yeah, but it'd be hard-bound to HyperTerminal if that were the case. Binding to x-terminal-emulator would be smarter because the default terminal can be changed without having to unset and re-set the shortcur.
[03:38] <Menzador> *shortcut.
[03:38] <Astro7467> I hv different default (x-terminal-emulator) vs user/interactive terminals (Cltrl-0Alt-T) as I want light for default, features for interactive
[03:42] <ken3322423> this is what I'm seeing in update-alternatives. not sure what I'm supposed to select :/ https://dpaste.de/GU7y
[03:47] <Astro7467> If HyperTerminal hasn't registered itself asa x-terminal-emulator alternative AFAIK you can use update-alternative --set x-terminal-emulator <hyperterminal-cmd-path>
[03:48] <Astro7467> so if hyperterm starts hyperterminal you can get the path with 'which hyperterm'
[03:50] <ken3322423> Astro7467: I'm getting an error saying that `alternative for path/to/hyper for x-term-emu not registered`
[03:52] <Astro7467> sorry, needt to use sudo update-alternatives ....
[03:53] <Astro7467> for example I can set to xterm successfully with;
[03:53] <Astro7467> sudo update-alternatives --set x-terminal-emulator /usr/bin/xterm
[03:54] <ken3322423> Astro7467: here is my full error `update-alternatives: error: alternative /usr/bin/hyper for x-terminal-emulator not registered; not setting`
[03:54] <ken3322423> should I have typed x-terminal-emulator or something like hyperterm?
[03:54] <ken3322423> sorry I mean to say that the error shows up even after running with sudo
[03:55] <Astro7467> what do you get for;
[03:55] <Astro7467> which hyper
[03:55] <ken3322423>  /usr/bin/hyper
[03:59] <Astro7467> ok, so we are both learning here - --set only works for registered alternatives, so we need to register, then it will be on the list
[03:59] <Astro7467> to register;
[03:59] <Menzador> ken3322423: Where's HyperTerminal even installed?
[04:00] <ken3322423> xD I am not even sure..
[04:01] <ken3322423>  /opt/Hyper/hyper
[04:03] <Astro7467> sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator x-terminal-emulator /usr/bin/hyper 200
[04:04] <Astro7467> update-alternatives --install <link> <name> <path> <priority>
[04:06] <ken3322423> Astro7467 I did this and it seemed to work but how can I test to see if it is working? right clicking in a folder and clicking `open in terminal` still opens Mate terminal
[04:10] <ken3322423> It's getting late I have to head to bed. Good night fellas and appreciate your help
[04:12] <Astro7467> last one ;
[04:12] <Astro7467> control centre -> preferred applications -> system
[04:12] <Astro7467> terminal set there also
[05:20] <karim_> hi
[09:41] <ubuntu-mate> sup?
[09:46] <saeeddeeas> hello all howe to serch for software ??
[09:47] <Astro7467> @saeeddeeas: in the Software Boutique there are other software centres you can install and browser
[12:04] <loloytim> hi... just testing out my newly installed ubuntu mate-16.10... feels great. Many thanks to ubuntu team.
[12:54] <ken3322423> Astro7467: Just checked preferred applications for terminal and there is no Hyper terminal there. It's currently set as Mate Terminal
[14:48] <Guest74038> Dag beste mensen, ik heb een probleem met ubuntu mate
[14:49] <Guest74038> als ik op schijven klikt dan werk het progje niet ook als ik er een usb stick in stop laat hij ook niets zien
[17:56] <jared> When i listen to music, via youtube, my system freezes, and I got t hold power button. How do I fix this problem?
[18:01] <sixwheeledbeast> jared: I had a similar issue turned out to be faulty RAM
[18:07] <Akuli> he quit already, but i'd guess probably his graphics drivers
[18:07] <Akuli> i had an issue like that on the first computer i ever ran a non-windows on
[18:29] <sixwheeledbeast> It could well be, I spend ages trying to diagnose an issue like that thinking drivers, until I did a memtest.
[18:39] <sixwheeledbeast> it's a shame people don't hang around longer. Unfortunately many have no patience.
[21:41] <Slown> Hello everyone
[22:40] <swift110> hey all
[22:41] <tiox> Fun times.
[22:42] <tiox> **Fun times.**
[22:42] <tiox> So I have Nemo yeah? I can't seem to have it automount media on CD or DVD.
[22:53] <swift110> how are you Tintomatic
[22:53] <swift110> how are you tiox
[22:53] <tiox> Slightly peeved.
[23:11] <swift110> why tiox
[23:16] <tiox> swift110: Because Nemo isn't mounting anything I put into /dev/sr0 or /dev/sr1
[23:17] <tiox> And then, when I made it so the media automounts, /etc/fstab stopped the system from launching and put it into E-mode.
[23:17] <tiox> Bundles and bundles of stupid.
[23:39] <swift110> oh i see


[00:25] <Badegakk> Hello
[00:26] <Badegakk> Is there a easy way to change bit depth and Kilohertz as default sound setting
[03:14] <mmikowski> dchiodi0087: Why are you running 5.24? 5.27 is superior in almost every way.
 Hello all there use to be a start menu icon on my Ubuntu 22.04, it's no longer there don't know why, can anyone help
 I'm doing it just for stability, I don't want to backport (i tried it and i noticed some bugs here and there) when 24.04 LTS is out I'll update it immediately (re @IrcsomeBot: <mmikowski> dchiodi0087: Why are you running 5.24? 5.27 is superior in almost every way.)
 Did you happen to change the global theme? (re @PJtunes: Hello all there use to be a start menu icon on my Ubuntu 22.04, it's no longer there don't know why, can anyone help)
 Just changed the wallpaper (re @dchiodi0087: Did you happen to change the global theme?)
 oh how strange, have you tried restoring the previous one? (re @PJtunes: Just changed the wallpaper)
 oh strange, have you tried restoring the previous one? (re @PJtunes: Just changed the wallpaper)
 Not yet, I should try that out
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:52] <VanUnamed> hello
[12:52] <VanUnamed> so i can install any plasma version i like on the latest distro?
[18:19] <sidh> Greetings
[18:19] <sidh> are you experiencing problem with https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports-extra/ubuntu too ?
[18:20] <sidh> 503  Service Unavailable [IP: 2620:2d:4000:1::81 443]
[18:25] <sidh> Remap-ubuntuppa: ppa.launchpad.net ; https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/
[18:25] <sidh> ok launchpad is down
[18:25] <sidh> oops
[18:25] <sidh> https://status.canonical.com/#/incident/KNms6QK9ewuzz-7xUsPsNylV20jEt5kyKsd8A-3ptQG-R6bil1_KnGrNhlmDfGeBqxPulG7NPS3y2X0ZcEptVQ==


[00:25] <Nothing4You> i'm trying to figure out how to properly auto grow a multi disk btrfs array, i can get cloud-init to resize the related partitions by passing them to growpart but the btrfs volume is only grown once for the first grown device
[00:50] <Nothing4You> seems like a limitation in current cc_resizefs
[00:58] <minimal> Nothing4You: probably. There's WIP currently for dealing with LVM using cc_growpart/cc_resizefs
[00:58] <Nothing4You> i'm writing a bug report right now
[00:58] <Nothing4You> the problem is it's using `btrfs filesystem resize max /` which only resizes the first volume
[00:58] <Nothing4You> *disk
[00:58] <Nothing4You> if you don't pass a disk id it uses disk id 1 by default
[00:59] <minimal> Nothing4You: you could always use "runcmd:" to do the correct commands yourself
[00:59] <Nothing4You> you'd need to get a list of all disk ids from btrfs and then run resize for each one
[00:59] <Nothing4You> yeah, i'll have to do that as workaround, until a patch hits debian years go by :)
[01:01] <minimal> Nothing4You: like most opensource projects its often a case of workout how to add the support yourself and submit a MR - that's what I do when I hit an issue :-)
[01:01] <Nothing4You> yeah, for now i'm just documenting, it's 2am already, i need to get some sleep
[01:02] <Nothing4You> since i'm generating the images myself i could also just patch the relevant python file in my image generation script once i have a patch though
[01:02] <Nothing4You> so i might just do that
[01:02] <Nothing4You> if it's not too complicated
[01:02] <minimal> I do something similar - I manage the Alpine Linux packaging so I often come up with a fix, patch it into the Alpine package, and also raise an MR to get it fixed upstream later
[01:03] <minimal> c-i is released quarterly, next release (22.1) is due late Feb from memory. Though of course Debian may take sometime after that to package it
[01:10] <Nothing4You> https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1955858 now i can go to bed :)
[01:12] <minimal> Nothing4You: haven't used ProxMox yet, was there anything special you had to do to whatever Linux distro you're using to get cloud-init working with ProxMox?
[01:13] <Nothing4You> minimal: i'm building a customized version of the official debian-11-generic-amd64 cloud image, but that's mostly unrelated to cloud-init
[01:14] <Nothing4You> nothing needed to be done in the image directly
[01:14] <Nothing4You> unfortunately in proxmox the way to pass user data is quite limited
[01:14] <Nothing4You> basically via gui/api you can only set very few variables
[01:15] <Nothing4You> for more configuration you need to manage snippets (files on the host filesystem) which there is no api for at this time
[01:15] <Nothing4You> and then attach those files via `qm set` to the vm
[01:15] <minimal> cool that's there's nothing need for VM - I have a script for creating cloud-init enabled Alpine disk images and have been intending to test it with ProxMox sometime
[01:16] <Nothing4You> main reason i generate customized images is using btrfs for the root fs and using netplan
[01:18] <minimal> netplan on Debian? hmm......
[01:18] <Nothing4You> netplan is specifically because i have network configuration that cannot be represented by the default renderer
[01:18] <Nothing4You> yeah
[01:18] <Nothing4You> netplan with networkd
[01:19] <minimal> oh, not tried networkd - Alpine uses e/n/i like Debian and I've used both v1 and v2 network-config YAML
[01:20] <Nothing4You> an example of what my netplan config looks like https://gist.githubusercontent.com/Nothing4You/f19352da2fa8fe1be4d9a083971bb097/raw/0b5e32689726a2aaa08a74396946dc011aeb623c/gistfile1.txt
[01:21] <minimal> nothing out of the ordinary in there - I've used that sort of config fine with e/n/i on Alpine, I'd assume it would also be fine for e/n/i in Debian
[01:22] <Nothing4You> not sure if it was a c-i or e/n/i limitation but i think it was the source aspect that wasn't supported somewhere
[01:22] <minimal> networkd is from systemd right? has Debian switched over to use it rather than e/n/i?
[01:23] <Nothing4You> as in from: in routes
[01:23] <Nothing4You> yes, systemd
[01:23] <Nothing4You> no, iirc debian still defaults to e/n/i
[01:23] <Nothing4You> playing with from: in routes is rarely used, even more rarely changing the from: value at runtime
[01:24] <Nothing4You> https://bugs.launchpad.net/netplan/+bug/1846954
[01:25] <Nothing4You> https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/network-config-format-v2.html does not explicitly list "from:" as valid value for routes
[01:25] <Nothing4You> i had this issue before which resulted in the netplan passthrough paragraph being added at the top of the page
[01:26] <Nothing4You> https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1909138
[01:27] <minimal> did we talk about this on here maybe 6 or so months ago? it sounds familiar
[01:27] <minimal> just had a quick look at network_state.py and yes it doesn't seem to handle the source aspect of routes
[01:28] <Nothing4You> actually it was in january :D
[01:29] <minimal> yes it was me, the 2nd bug is familiar - it was me who told you that it working for netplan might be an unintended side-effect rather than by design (which oddbloke then clarified)
[01:30] <minimal> thought there was some activity to add this for non-netplan - guess I was wrong
[01:36] <Nothing4You> anyways 2:35am, actually gonna get some sleep now
[01:36] <Nothing4You> thanks for the talk, we'll probably continue in another year or so :)
[01:36] <minimal> that's less than a week away ;-)
[01:36] <minimal> see ya
[01:37] <Nothing4You> next year != in another year :P
[01:37] <Nothing4You> actually you could interpret another as different rather than one more as well
[01:38] <Nothing4You> i guess both work


[22:45]  * NinjaPlimsolls tried the Kubuntu 9.10 livecd
[22:45]  * NinjaPlimsolls now doesn't like KDE much!
[22:45] <GhostDog> fcct: 'can't resume image'
[22:45] <GhostDog> or something similar
[22:45] <IdleOne> !details | billy__
[22:45] <GhostDog> never liked KDE =P
[22:45] <fccf> GhostDog what kernel do you have ... uname -a
[22:45]  * NinjaPlimsolls shudders
[22:45] <fabien__> is 9.04 not the last ?
[22:45] <billy__> Before, I'm having a problem with the netbook launcher. when i hovered over the icons/menus in the netbook launcher they showed the normal hovering effect. Now they don't.
[22:46] <lstarnes> fabien__: it's the latest
[22:46] <fccf> fabien__: till 3 weeks from now yes
[22:46] <IdleOne> fabien__: yes, 9.10 will be released at the end of this month
[22:46] <GhostDog> fccf: actually i also booted into an old kernel with grub come to think of it. let me try a normal boot
[22:46] <lstarnes> fabien__: ubnuntu 9.10 isn't coming out until october 29
[22:46] <billy__> Before, I'm having a problem with the netbook launcher. when i hovered over the icons/menus in the netbook launcher they showed the normal hovering effect. Now they don't.
[22:46] <GhostDog> i think i have *.15 and *.30
[22:46] <billy__> Before, I'm having a problem with the netbook launcher. when i hovered over the icons/menus in the netbook launcher they showed the normal hovering effect. Now they don't.
[22:46] <FloodBot2> billy__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:46] <billy__> argh
[22:46] <billy__> Can someone please help me? Please?
[22:46] <GhostDog> -15 or -30 or whatever im trying to say
[22:46] <fabien__> ok thx
[22:46] <NinjaPlimsolls> whats up billy__ ?
[22:46] <fccf> !patience | billy
[22:47] <billy__> NinjaPlimsolls: Before, I'm having a problem with the netbook launcher. when i hovered over the icons/menus in the netbook launcher they showed the normal hovering effect. Now they don't.
[22:47] <IdleOne> billy__: ok. what have you changed since this started? you need to give more info, you are being to vague.
[22:47] <billy__> kk
[22:47] <billy__> I havent changed much
[22:48] <IdleOne> billy__: yeah that was less vague
[22:48] <billy__> sry
[22:48] <billy__> i DID modify my xorg.conf and ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg before it happened
[22:48] <chelsea> hello
[22:48] <Wolfcastle> hello
[22:48] <billy__> IdleOne: i DID modify my xorg.conf and ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg before it happened
[22:48] <Wolfcastle> I'm having problems installing the broadcom sta driver
[22:48] <Wolfcastle> with ubuntu 9.10
[22:49] <chelsea> please how i can istall debian 5 on virtualbox
[22:49] <Slart> !karmic | Wolfcastle
[22:49] <robuntu> !sa
[22:49] <IdleOne> billy__: ok well now you have a default xorg.conf
[22:49] <billy__> yeah
[22:49] <pyrustheking> hi can some one please help me with a grub issue
[22:49] <Wolfcastle> ok thanx
[22:49] <billy__> IdleOne: And now the netbook-launcher isnt working
[22:49] <billy__> IdleOne: I cant see the two being related myself
[22:49] <Slart> chelsea: in virtualbox you create a new virtual machine.. then select the debian install iso for the virtual cd drive.. start the vm and the installation procedure should start
[22:50] <billy__> I'm in 8.04 btw
[22:50] <Slart> billy__: just describe your issue, if someone knows how to fix it they most probably will answer
[22:50] <servo888> Hey all. What's the best visualization software for my needs. I would like something for Ubuntu as the host os, and run Windows as a Guest. Most important be able to switch over to a Window host if possible. I know vmware can do this, but are there any other ones which can fill my needs?
[22:50] <Slart> sorry billy__, wrong nick
[22:50] <billy__> k
[22:50] <Slart> pyrustheking: : just describe your issue, if someone knows how to fix it they most probably will answer
[22:51] <billy__> I have the netbook launcher in Ubuntu 8.04. I used to be able to hover over the icons/menus, and the hover effect would appear. Now, it doesn't.
[22:51] <ZykoticK9> servo888, check out VirtualBox as well
[22:51] <IdleOne> billy__: I have no clue, try to give as much pertinent info on your issue and be clear and patient :)
[22:51] <billy__> k
[22:51] <billy__> That's about all tbh
[22:51] <Samus_Aran> does anyone know how to stop the constant seg-faulting of any app using nslookup (or whatever the name of the system call is) ?  e.g. dig, host, ssh
[22:52] <pyrustheking> ok thanks, I have a laptop installed WinXP, and ubuntu 9.04 installed on a external drive, when I want to use ubuntu I just edit the boot device sequence and works fine for me
[22:52] <servo888> ZykoticK9: that's the route I'm thinking of going. Is Virtualbox mature?
[22:52] <Myion> Oh god, this channel is like the devil with 1481 heads
[22:52] <Slart> Samus_Aran: hmm.. there's nothing in the syslog or kernel log that describes what library it is that is crashing?
[22:52] <ZykoticK9> servo888, I certainly like it
[22:52] <pyrustheking> I installed grub2 today and my pc won't boot up windows without having the external drive
[22:52] <Samus_Aran> it's fine when I first reboot for a while, then starts again.  I have no idea what puts it into "broken mode".  very frustrating being unable to use ssh, forced to use PuTTY.  :/
[22:52] <JanHolbo> Keiya, I keep getting input/output errors :-/
[22:52] <IdleOne> Myion: in two weeks it will be busy
[22:52] <pyrustheking> I need to remove it from the internal drive
[22:52] <billy__> I have the netbook launcher in Ubuntu 8.04. I used to be able to hover over the icons/menus, and the hover effect would appear. Now, it doesn't. I was reading somewhere that it might be because I was using software rendering, but I haven't enabled that. Any ideas?
[22:53] <Samus_Aran> Slart: I'll check, but I don't remember seeing anything out of place last time
[22:53] <fccf> Myron: and you will find that most of those heads are mute
[22:53] <billye> I have the netbook launcher in Ubuntu 8.04. I used to be able to hover over the icons/menus, and the hover effect would appear. Now, it doesn't. I was reading somewhere that it might be because I was using software rendering, but I haven't enabled that. Any ideas?
[22:53] <ZykoticK9> JanHolbo, are you getting I/O error from a Hard Disk?  To you see the errors in dmesg?  Typically that would mean a dying HD.
[22:53] <Samus_Aran> Slart: they all say: general protection ip:7f056ef8519f sp:7fff77171c30 error:0 in libGL.so.185.18.36
[22:53] <Myion> xD
[22:53] <Samus_Aran> Slart: which is nVIDIA of all things
[22:53] <billye> I have the netbook launcher in Ubuntu 8.04. I used to be able to hover over the icons/menus, and the hover effect would appear. Now, it doesn't. I was reading somewhere that it might be because I was using software rendering, but I haven't enabled that. Any ideas?
[22:54] <Samus_Aran> argh.
[22:54] <Slart> Samus_Aran: you've tried reinstalling the nvidia driver?
[22:54] <IdleOne> billye: changing your nick and stating the same info wont get you an answer any quicker. please be patient and someone will answer if the know the answer
[22:54] <billye> I know
[22:54] <Samus_Aran> Slart: yeah, and upgrading the kernel
[22:54] <billye> this nick is just easier to type
[22:54] <Samus_Aran> Slart: maybe I'll try downgrading the nVIDIA driver
[22:54] <GhostDog> fccf: oops. ill bother you again after i try to reinstall the driver
[22:54] <billye> I have the netbook launcher in Ubuntu 8.04. I used to be able to hover over the icons/menus, and the hover effect would appear. Now, it doesn't. I was reading somewhere that it might be because I was using software rendering, but I haven't enabled that. Any ideas?
[22:54] <Myion> IdleOne: It's like hydra. You solve a guys problem and two more show up asking the same :o
[22:55] <Slart> Samus_Aran: it's worth a try.. it might be a bug in the nvidia driver.. if that is the case I assume they will fix it... sooner or later
[22:55] <Samus_Aran> Slart: or using a beta if there is one.  I'll go ask in #nVIDIA, didn't realise this was a problem related to ... broken video card drivers.  eesh.  :p
[22:55] <Slart> Samus_Aran: that might work too.. hope that fixes it
[22:55] <Samus_Aran> I don't get why "host" could even be affected by libGL
[22:55] <Slart> Samus_Aran: nope.. it doesn't make sense to me neither
[22:55] <billye> I have the netbook launcher in Ubuntu 8.04. I used to be able to hover over the icons/menus, and the hover effect would appear. Now, it doesn't. I was reading somewhere that it might be because I was using software rendering, but I haven't enabled that. Any ideas?
[22:56] <Samus_Aran> poof.
[22:56] <IdleOne> 5 times in 4 minutes.
[22:56] <Berzerker> is there a way to stick applications to a certain workspace?
[22:56] <IdleOne> billye: stop and wait a 5 minutes before asking again
[22:56] <ZykoticK9> billye, please stop repeating your problem, we've all seen it 10 times now...  If someone knows they'll answer you.
[22:56] <Slart> billye: we didn't know one minute ago... you need to wait at least 15 minutes before repeating your question
[22:56] <billye> k
[22:56] <billye> im sorry
[22:57] <Slart> Berzerker: not sure if devilspie can do it.. but it's worth taking a look at
[22:57] <IdleOne> billye: while your waiting you can try looking on the ubuntu forums to see if there is any info
[22:57] <billye> k
[22:57] <Slart> Berzerker: there might be some compiz way of doing it too.. at least I think compiz is responsible for handling the different desktops
[22:58] <Berzerker> Slart, compiz --replace
[22:58] <baptistul> I can't uninstall google chrome for ubuntu;help me,please!
[22:58] <Berzerker> Slart, ?
[22:58] <GhostDog> fccf: all right, i'm at a loss. I believe the problem is it is not recognizing the driver or no driver is installed or something similar. on boot up i get error can't find intel EE 00 or something similar and then it goes into what seems to be some sort of lesser back up GUI where I can 'reconfigure graphics settings' 'troubleshoot' 'drop to commandline' etc
[22:58] <Slart> Berzerker: nah.. that just starts compiz and makes it take control of the screen
[22:59] <Berzerker> Slart, yeah i don't think I'm using compiz right now
[22:59] <Slart> Berzerker: but I wouldn't be surprised if there was something like "compiz-launch --desktop=2 MyAwesomeProgram"
[22:59] <kobi> hi guys i have a computer with ubuntu 9.04 and an nvidia video card and for some reason it shows the top resolution as 1024x768 even though in windows xp it shows higher resolution is there a workaround to this problem?
[22:59] <majster> filmy mi klatkują :(
[22:59] <Slart> Berzerker: oh.. nevermind about the compiz thing then.. try devilspie
[22:59] <Slart> !pl | majster
[23:00] <GhostDog> fccf: I should rprobably also mention that for months I have been getting error 26fs where I can continue by hitting space or pick a graphics mode. i hit space and it works fine. this was after some particular bleeder upgrade.
[23:00] <Enissay> Hi guys, how can i install the latest version of Azureus 4.2 wich is a .tar.bz2 file on my gnome jaunty? (only version 3.1.1 is in repositories)
[23:00] <majster> zajebiście
[23:00] <kobi> hi guys i have a computer with ubuntu 9.04 and an nvidia video card and for some reason it shows the top resolution as 1024x768 even though in windows xp it shows higher resolution is there a workaround to this problem?
[23:01] <GhostDog> kobi: did you enable the proprietary driver i think there is one
[23:01] <kobi> yes i did
[23:01] <kobi> yes i did and i looked in the nvidia x config applicaiton and it dosent show a higher option
[23:02] <_Techie_> how can i have my laptop run a command when resuming from suspend?
[23:02] <baptistul> how can I uninstall Google Chrome for ubuntu?
[23:02] <xteejx> Hi guys, any triagers in here?
[23:02] <ZykoticK9> Enissay, do you actually mean Vuze?  or really Azureus?
[23:02] <lstarnes> baptistul: how was it installed?
[23:02] <JanHolbo> ZykoticK9, it's an ecryptfs mount
[23:02] <Slart> baptistul: how did you install it?
[23:02] <baptistul> downloaded,double click on it
[23:03] <IdleOne> baptistul: you used a deb to install it?
[23:03] <xteejx> there IS no linux version of chrome yet
[23:03] <baptistul> yes
[23:03] <IdleOne> baptistul: sudo dpkg -r chromium
[23:03] <lstarnes> xteejx: there is
[23:03] <ZykoticK9> JanHolbo, I think you must have directed that to the wrong person (I stay clear of any encrypted FS issues)
[23:03] <xteejx> is there??  I remember the last time I tried to go back to Linux the drivers decided to put my 1920x1080 screen into a black border on my monitor. Caused some grief for me.
[23:07] <GhostDog> i/quit nananana wipeout
[23:07] <Dunas> Was wondering if that'd been fixed.
[23:07] <fccf> xteejx: works here, just /msg ubottu search factoid
[23:07] <xteejx> guys, chromium = chrome web browser....isn't that going to cause a problem in the repos with the game chromium?
[23:08] <xteejx> strange it worked then, must've typed wrong
[23:08] <xteejx> is there any triagers here, everyone in #ubuntu-bugs is asleep?
[23:08] <jenia> hello
[23:08] <arand> xteejx: it's called chromium-browser because of that ;)
[23:08] <ZykoticK9> xteejx, the daily builds are called chromium-browser
[23:09] <xteejx> ahhhh ;)
[23:09] <jenia> i have a problem with flash in firefox, can anyone help me
[23:09] <billye> Hey everyone! I'm running Ubuntu 8.04. Is it possible to do Internet Connection Sharing so I can use my PS2 online though my laptop? I can do it in Vista. Thanks!
[23:09] <xteejx> jenia, explain your problem :)
[23:09] <Enissay> ZykoticK9, wow, thanks mate :)
[23:09] <Slart> !ics | billye
[23:09] <vraa> is it smarter to copy fles over and then archive them, or to just run the 7z process on the files directly on the alternate computer which has the files?
[23:09] <billye> ubottu: Thanks!
[23:10] <xteejx> lmao
[23:10] <Dunas> Is there any hope for ATi drivers, or should I just buy an Nvidia card?
[23:10] <fccf> xteejx: I do triage, what can I help with
[23:10] <xteejx> !fglrx | Dunas
[23:10] <Slart> vraa: what kind of connection do you have between the computers? is one computer much faster than the other?
[23:10] <vraa> Slart, i have a ubuntu machine, it has raid 0, and the files are on a windows vista with raid 0+1
[23:10] <Slart> Dunas: well.. there's always hope.. but I would still go with a nvidia card if I was buying a graphics card today
[23:10] <xteejx> fccf, its bug 315438, it's one of mine, been dead for 9 months and still occurs in karmic
[23:11] <xteejx> i'd stick with ATI to be honest
[23:11] <ZykoticK9> Dunas, if you want a better graphics experience under linux - I'd highly recommend nvidia over ati (if you can afford it)
[23:11] <vraa> or raid 1+0, i forget, both are core2duo 3ghz, but ubuntu one i am learning to write a cron'ed shell script
[23:11] <vraa> they have gigabit
[23:11] <majster> czesc cwelasy
[23:11] <conb123> so what is the current version of 'kde' in the repositories?
[23:12] <vraa> it's on samba shared, it can run all night
[23:12] <modus> heya guys
[23:12] <fccf> xteejx: I'll look  , no promises
[23:12] <Dunas> Well, my big problem was that last time I tried to use Linux with this card (Radeon HD4830) the screen was boxed in with a black border, shrinking it on my monitor, and there was no oversampling/undersampling option in the drivers on Linux yet.
[23:12] <Metacker> Hey guys, does anyone know, if the Logitech G11 Keys at the left work with Ubuntu ?
[23:12] <Slart> vraa: then I guess it doesn't make much of a difference.. do whichever is easiest for you
[23:12] <modus> I cannot connect wirelessly no matter what i have tried. can anyone help me please?
[23:12] <Slart> majster: typy   /join #ubunut-pl
[23:12] <xteejx> fccf, thanks mate, I'm a triager too but kinda rusty and can't change statuses of my own bugs
[23:12] <vraa> slart, okoay cool thx
[23:12] <ZykoticK9> conb123, you can find out from a terminal with the command "apt-cache policy kde"
[23:13] <xteejx> modus, i can help
[23:13] <modus> great thanks xteejx
[23:13] <rigodeni> im looking for a GUI based CPU stress test, like Prime95 in windows
[23:13] <xteejx> modus, what card do you have, is it internal/usb, and what have you tried?
[23:13] <modus> i have a bcm4312 internal wlan card
[23:13] <Slart> rigodeni: gui based stress test.. hmm.. gnome-terminal doesn't count? =)
[23:14] <xteejx> rigodeni, tried cpuburn?
[23:14] <modus> all sorts of stuff im still newish to ubuntu
[23:14] <xteejx> Slart, LMAO
[23:14] <modus> i have ran some commnds given to me using fwcutter but they did not work
[23:14] <rigodeni> xteejx: umm yes i did a while back, its command line based though
[23:14] <chrisdn> Hi -- linux noob here. I'm trying to dd a usb image of memtest86 onto a usb pen drive, but i can't work out how to work out my device dev, for example /dev/sda/ -- searched google to no avail. how do i do this? thanks. :)
[23:15] <xteejx> modus, broadcom.....ouch - endless problems with broadcom wireless dirvers in linux becuase of proprietary drivers....which ubuntu version are you using?
[23:15] <fccf> xteejx: this is something that upstream is aware of, and the only actual fix for this is to run the card in ndiswrapper , with the windows driver, getting it to run natively is going to take more than a little development effort
[23:15] <xteejx> rigodeni, ahh ok i only know of that and fuzz
[23:16] <modus> thats the thing. im actually using BT4 but there forum has not been much help for a begginer
[23:16] <xteejx> fccf, you're kidding? i mean its usable....barely, and it Is getting better with each release but its so damn painful lol
[23:16] <modus> I have been advised by them to ask in the ubuntu forums for help
[23:16] <billye> Hey! I'm trying to run netbook-launcher in 8.04. But when I try to run, it complains "libGL error: open DRM failed (Operation not permitted)/libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering"
[23:16] <vraa> what would be the smartest way to copy a file? cp? or is there something more advisable for cifs shares? like robocopy or xcopy on windows
[23:16] <master_> sorry all how do i see my hosts file
[23:17] <Slart> vraa: cp would work.. you can use rsync if you want a nice progress bar and some other nifty features
[23:17] <lstarnes> master_: it's /etc/hosts.  any text editor can see it
[23:17] <billye> Hey! I'm trying to run netbook-launcher in 8.04. But when I try to run, it complains "libGL error: open DRM failed (Operation not permitted)/libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering"
[23:17] <sako> Hey guys, is there some bug in the gtk where wizard buttons are having problems? Has this been a common issue in here?
[23:17] <vraa> i thought rsync needed to run on both server and client?
[23:17] <billye> Hey! I'm trying to run netbook-launcher in 8.04. But when I try to run, it complains "libGL error: open DRM failed (Operation not permitted)/libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering"
[23:17] <vraa> ie: i'd have to install it on the windows machine as well? rather than using samba/cifs?
[23:17] <xteejx> modus, i'll be honest backtrack4 while its good, the support for proprietary drivers is bad, i would guess that in ubuntu it would simply be a case of going to "Hardware Drivers" and installing the proprietary drivers, on backtrack I would guess it would be a custom kernel build as afaik it doesnt support dkms, or using ndiswrapper with windows drivers
[23:18] <BellinXFelon> how can i remove a program that is .exe after I have installed it with WINE
[23:18] <Slart> vraa: nope.. you of course need to mount the remote drive so you have access to it.. then you can use rsync just as a "copy but with more bling bling"
[23:18] <xteejx> modus, i mean you can TRY ndiswrapper
[23:18] <vraa> okay that makes a lot of sense
[23:18] <billye> BellinXFelon: Go to the Wine menu. Click Uninstall Wine Software. Follow the options
[23:18] <vraa> thanks let me google and read up on it Slart
[23:18] <ZykoticK9> BellinXFelon, check if it's in Applications / Wine / Uninstall Wine Software
[23:18] <modus> yes you are right. i have read about this. but can you hel me with that plz
[23:18] <billye> BellinXFelon: What he said
[23:18] <billye> Hey! I'm trying to run netbook-launcher in 8.04. But when I try to run, it complains "libGL error: open DRM failed (Operation not permitted)/libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering"
[23:18] <Slart> vraa: you're welcome
[23:19] <xteejx> modus, that's a bit beyond my grasp ill be honest
[23:19] <xteejx> GUYS, is anyone able to help modus with ndiswrapper and broadcom drivers in backtrack 4??
[23:19] <BellinXFelon> one more thing, how can I get .mkv playback in totem?
[23:21] <billye> BellinXFelon: Add/Remove software. Try installing "ubuntu restricted extras" and tell me if it works
[23:22] <ZykoticK9> BellinXFelon, looks like you might have problems with Totem crashing while playing mkv files.  You might want to check out mplayer/vlc instead.  Good luck.
[23:22] <BellinXFelon> billye : I have that already, i can pastebin the error message
[23:22] <billye> BellinXFelon: k
[23:23] <billye> BellinXFelon: I'd also recommend getting VLC. It's far better than Totem IMHO. I don't personally like Mplayer at all.
[23:23] <BellinXFelon> billye: I have vlc
[23:23] <billye> BellinXFelon: Have you tried using it for the .mkv?
[23:24] <BellinXFelon> billye : yes i think
[23:24] <FoolishOwl> How good is vlc for playing audio? Any advantage over Rhythmbox?
[23:24] <fccf> xteejx: modus: backtrack4 is not supported here, technically ...... it is not officially ubuntu and therefore cannot be supproted here ... NDIS is easy ... see the how-to's
[23:24] <fccf> !ndis
[23:24] <billye> BellinXFalcon: Try again.
[23:24] <BellinXFelon> billye : totem is saying could not demultiplex stream
[23:25] <xteejx> !ndis | Modus
[23:25] <kraito> i need a GTK+ theme engine name xfce anyone know where to get it?
[23:25] <xteejx> fccf, was for someone else :)
[23:25] <IdleOne> !xfce | kraito
[23:25] <billye> BellinXFalcon: Add/Remove software. Do you have the GStreamer plugins?
[23:26] <rob0917> anyone know how to get the fluendo pluggins working in ubuntu 9.10 beta?
[23:26] <ZykoticK9> FoolishOwl, vlc isn't ideal for audio - it plays fine, just not ideal.  If you're looking for a replacement of Rhythmbox I'd suggest Songbird (very iTunes looking - it's available from getdeb)
[23:26] <billye> Rhythmbox is the best IMHO
[23:26] <billye> BellinXFalcon: Add/Remove software. Do you have the GStreamer plugins?
[23:27] <[manas]> i installed samba and cofigure thit this toturiAL http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 but i cant map drive in windows and i cant connet in tru browser
[23:27] <fccf> BellinXFelon: seems like you are missing the matroska demultiplexer ... it might be in gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[23:27] <FoolishOwl> ZykoticK9, I've tried installing Songbird, but it didn't work. There's some library they suggest removing, but a lot of other applications depend upon it.
[23:28] <ZykoticK9> FoolishOwl, ummmm, sorry I don't have any other suggestions for ya...
[23:28] <peter__> anybody here i need suport :)))
[23:28] <billye> Anyone know an app to manage my audio books? I could import them into Rhythmbox, but then they clutter it up, and I'd rather have music in there. Any ideas?
[23:28] <FoolishOwl> I keep going back to Rhythmbox. I wish it handled tags a bit better, but it works well enough.
[23:28] <billye> Anyone know an app to manage my audio books? I could import them into Rhythmbox, but then they clutter it up, and I'd rather have music in there. Any ideas?
[23:28] <fccf> billye: why not have rhythmbox running in another username ... books
[23:28] <billye> fccf: It's kinda a pain
[23:29] <Mike_lifeguard> Hello, Do the deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list mean that installing packages will also fetch the source code?
[23:29] <IdleOne> Mike_lifeguard: no
[23:29] <linxeh> billye: you can have a menu item that launches it as a differnet user for you
[23:29] <fccf> billye: not if you sudo su to the other user and run rhythmbox from there
[23:29] <peter__> ok i ask only one question can i turn of all methods of autentification on ubuntu?
[23:29] <peter__> easy?
[23:29] <Mike_lifeguard> IdleOne: so what do they mean? :)
[23:29] <linxeh> fccf: no need to sudo su - you can do it from sudo
[23:30] <IdleOne> Mike_lifeguard: means if you want to fetch the source you need them there
[23:30] <fccf> linxeh: to run as another user? not root?
[23:30] <billye> <linxeh: Thanks!
[23:30] <peter__> but then i have problems with programs keyrings
[23:30] <billye> <linxe: fccf
[23:30] <FoolishOwl> In a class I'm taking on system administration, we were discussing runlevels. Apparently Ubuntu doesn't really use them, and uses "Upstart" instead.
[23:30] <Mike_lifeguard> IdleOne: ok, so it allows you to get source code if you want to later
[23:30] <IdleOne> Mike_lifeguard: yes
[23:30] <linxeh> fccf: yes
[23:30] <linxeh> fccf: sudo -u
[23:30] <Mike_lifeguard> IdleOne: k, thanks
[23:30] <billye> linxe: what would be the command line command? And could I hide the account in my login's screen's face browser?
[23:30] <billye> linxeh: what would be the command line command? And could I hide the account in my login's screen's face browser?
[23:31] <linxeh> billye: sudo -u otherusername /usr/bin/rhythmbox     or something
[23:31] <fccf> billye: sudo -u books rhythmbox
[23:31] <FoolishOwl> One useful thing with runlevels on other systems is that you could change runlevel from 5 to 3, to disable the GUI. Is there a convenient way to do that in Ubuntu?
[23:31] <kraito> anyone know how to get all the windows transparent ?
[23:31] <billye> linxeh: And could I hide the account in my login's screen's face browser?
[23:31] <billye> fccf: And could I hide the account in my login's screen's face browser?
[23:31] <linxeh> I think you can yes
[23:32] <Bluey> where can I find the adapative multi-rate (AMR) decoder for 64 bit ubuntu?
[23:32] <linxeh> billye: you can probably get rhythmbox to use two different libraries
[23:32] <billye> Linxeh: Unfortunately, I dont think I can
[23:33] <Evelina> Will uniq remove all duplicate lines or just printe the duplicate lines only once when using: uniq -u texfile1 textfile2 textfile3 ect?
[23:33] <Evelina> *print
[23:33] <JanHolbo> I think I am screwed ... I lost my root directory on a Jaunty installation and now I can not get to my files - can anybody give me any pointers?
[23:33] <billye> Linxeh: I have to go. I'll be back l8r.
[23:33] <[manas]> i installed samba and configure whit this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 but i cant map drive in windows and i cant connect in true browser
[23:34] <ronny1> hello there
[23:34] <ronny1> how u doing?
[23:34] <ringo999> hi there, i'm running ubuntu on the latest 13" macbook pro model. everything works pretty much except for the sound. Could anybody please help me getting it to work?
[23:34] <linxeh> billye: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/8311/. oh too bad.
[23:34] <JanHolbo> I think I am screwed ... I lost my root directory on a Jaunty installation and now I can not get to my files in an ecryptfs home dir - can anybody give me any pointers?
[23:34] <StaRetji> how to force kill application when killall doesn't do that???
[23:35] <ZykoticK9> StaRetji, try "killall -9 programname"
[23:35] <StaRetji> same
[23:35] <StaRetji> thx for trying
[23:35] <Bluey> !amr
[23:35] <Bluey> nor i
[23:35] <StaRetji> so far couldn't kill it, hard reset was my only choice
[23:35] <fccf> linxeh: fyi http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14430 how do make gdm and kdm hide users
[23:36] <linxeh> StaRetji: kill -9 pid
[23:36] <[manas]> anyone please
[23:36] <StaRetji> also nothing
[23:36] <StaRetji> app runs, but can't be killed. Wierd
[23:36] <fccf> StaRetji: what app:
[23:36] <fccf> ?
[23:36] <StaRetji> xbmc
[23:36] <FoolishOwl> Does anyone know something in Ubuntu that would emulate the effects of changing runlevel from 5 to 3 on other *nix systems?
[23:37] <StaRetji> xbmc dot org
[23:37] <ebcl> fresh spanking new install ubuntu 9.04 on dell inspiron e1505 with intel 3945 wireless card, allegedly supported inline kernel since 2.6.24 [this install 2.6.28]; but no wireless interface visible anywhere.
[23:37] <linxeh> FoolishOwl: eh?
[23:37] <ZykoticK9> StaRetji, try running "ps axf" and finding out if the program in question relies on something else
[23:37] <linxeh> FoolishOwl: other than installing other *nix systems in a VM, how would you expect to do that ?
[23:37] <fccf> StaRetji: less likely that it is working as it isn't in the repositories
[23:37] <unop> StaRetji, also, what is the state of this process in the output of   ps aux
[23:37] <unop> ?
[23:37] <cybersplice> M
[23:38] <unop> some processes can't be killed - depending on the state
[23:38] <StaRetji> fccf they have their own repo with daliy svn
[23:38] <sako> hey guys is there a way to get a list of my packages installed on the system?
[23:38] <IdleOne> !clone
[23:38] <StaRetji> damn thing hangs on youtube videos and can't be killed
[23:38] <StaRetji> I'm lost
[23:38] <FoolishOwl> linxeh, what I had in mind was that, in other *nix systems, changing runlevel from 5 to 3 would shut down the GUI -- which could be useful, if you want the machine to run more efficiently for a while and don't need the GUI.
[23:38] <unop> sako,  dpkg -l  #should do
[23:39] <fccf> StaRetji: reccommend taking that 'bug' to launchpad > XBMC PPA
[23:39] <FoolishOwl> And of course, changing runlevel from 3 to 5 would start up the GUI.
[23:39] <Mike_lifeguard> Hi, I'm trying to change the motd, but I guess it keeps getting overwritten by update-motd. I like most of what that package does, but I want to remove the uname line in particular -- however I can't find where that is added (it isn't any of the scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/). Does anyone know where that is added so I can remove it?
[23:39] <dame> anybody knows wicd ad-hoc workaround? trying to connect with ipod touch if anybody have exp.
[23:39] <linxeh> FoolishOwl: uhuh
[23:39] <lstarnes> Mike_lifeguard: edit /etc/motd.tail
[23:39] <Mike_lifeguard> lstarnes: That is not where the uname line is added.
[23:40] <linxeh> FoolishOwl: whats the problem ?
[23:40] <Mike_lifeguard> lstarnes: which is specifically what I want to be rid of :)
[23:40] <StaRetji> fccf thx dude, i tried on their channel they blow me like a soccer ball :) told me it is not xbmc that hangs, but rather youtube plugin
[23:40] <unop> FoolishOwl, you can mess around customizing a runlevel -- but it's simpler just disabling the gdm or kdm service
[23:40] <ZykoticK9> FoolishOwl, there are ways of stopping the GUI ( $ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop ) runlevels just aren't used the same way in Ubuntu -- no way to "fake" them...
[23:40] <cichy_> dobre
[23:40] <FoolishOwl> unop, that sounds more like what I was after.
[23:40] <fccf> StaRetji: and the you tube plugin is flash and closed source , so , I cannot help
[23:41] <unop> !startup
[23:41] <unop> !boot | FoolishOwl
[23:41] <lstarnes> Mike_lifeguard: try /etc/issue.net
[23:41] <lstarnes> Mike_lifeguard: oops.  /etc/issue
[23:41] <chrisdn> anyone got any idea why "sudo dd if=memtest86-3.5.usb of=/dev/sdb/" does nothing? it just says "is a directory"
[23:41] <sako> thanks
[23:41] <lstarnes> chrisdn: /dev/sdb, not /dev/sdb/
[23:41] <unop> chrisdn, strip the trailing /
[23:41] <chrisdn> lstarnes: thanks
[23:42] <StaRetji> fccf and dude that made plugin disappeared, damn, so I thought to make script that do killall -9 xbmc, but what's the point when i can't kill it. Youtube plugin is made from Youtube API and is python script actually. Anyways, respect your effort...and others too, of course.
[23:42] <Mike_lifeguard> lstarnes: that file just says "Ubuntu 9.04 \n \l" :\
[23:43] <Administrateur> hi
[23:44] <pilibeen> anyone experience slow network speeds with Jaunty?
[23:44] <Mike_lifeguard> pilibeen: You mean slow network speeds *because of Jaunty*? :D
[23:44] <fccf> StaRetji: perhaps you can beg the youtube people to provide a fix ... Question: does xbmc crash even when not actually interacting with the Youtube API?
[23:44] <Administrateur> i have the problem i have vista in my compyouter i ned install ubuntu
[23:45] <kamil_> y
[23:45] <StaRetji> fccf almost never
[23:45] <pilibeen> Mike_lifeguard, Possibly, it's been awhile since I've run any version of ubuntu
[23:45] <FoolishOwl> Administrateur, have you tried booting from a LiveCD?
[23:45] <fccf> Everybody stop... Administrateur has a more serious problem LOL
[23:45] <Mike_lifeguard> Administrateur: Good news! You've come to the right place. Do you know if you want a dual-boot system? Or do you want to get rid of Windows entirely?
[23:45] <pilibeen> this is my first time back on the wagon, but I'm seeing slower speeds than on my windows boxes
[23:45] <StaRetji> fccf you're right, it has to be plugin problem
[23:45] <angelus> Administrateur try Wubi ...
[23:45] <Mike_lifeguard> fccf: HEY! That *is* a serious problem! >:D
[23:45] <pilibeen> specifically a slower download...upload seems to be an improvement over windows
[23:46] <FoolishOwl> It IS Bug #1.
[23:46] <fccf> Mike_lifeguard: good to see you again ... I was being serious and funny at the same time , wow!
[23:46] <lstarnes> Mike_lifeguard: I think it's something in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[23:46] <lstarnes> Mike_lifeguard: why do you need to remove the uname?
[23:47] <Mike_lifeguard> lstarnes: well, I don't *need* to :D
[23:47]  * Mike_lifeguard looks there...
[23:47] <lstarnes> Mike_lifeguard: generally, modifying system init scripts isn't a good idea
[23:47] <Administrateur> i have ubuntu in my clé usb
[23:47] <ebcl> Since the special laptop-function button associated with turning on and off the wireless interface doesn't work, is there a command-line alternative to turning it on?
[23:47] <Mike_lifeguard> lstarnes: Yes, well it shouldn't be in an init script! :D
[23:48] <lstarnes> Mike_lifeguard: file a bug report or feature request for the initscripts package
[23:48] <fccf> Administrateur: cl? ... usb? please make full sentences, explain your sitiuation
[23:49] <Mike_lifeguard> fccf: "cle" is french for key. it's a USB key with ubuntu on it
[23:49] <Administrateur> i can't format my lap top that my situation i have vista you indrestand
[23:49] <static_frys> is there any way of getting a full list of packages found on the ubuntu cd repositories (non-networked) from their site (meaning not downloading the cd)?
[23:49] <Mike_lifeguard> lstarnes: good call... I'll do that... except I don't see it there. I'll look through the rest of the scripts though...
[23:49] <fccf> !fr | Administrateur
[23:50] <Moon_Doggy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8074370#post8074370
[23:50] <Administrateur> #ubuntu-fr
[23:51] <fccf> Administrateur: /join #ubuntu-fr
[23:51] <distrohopper> if I have ubuntu server and let people log in, is there a way for me to see what the user logging in is doing?
[23:51] <Lenin_Cat> how do I enable ctl alt backspace?
[23:52] <bastidrazor> !dontzap | Lenin_Cat
[23:52] <lstarnes> distrohopper: you could use ps aux to see what processes are being run
[23:52] <lstarnes> distrohopper: but you most likely can't see what they see on their shells
[23:52] <distrohopper> lstarnes: is there nothing like top or iftop?
[23:52] <[manas]> one stupid questiu
[23:52] <lstarnes> distrohopper: htop is also a process viewer
[23:53] <distrohopper> basically to see what they are running?
[23:53] <[manas]> one stupid question can i connect to samba server via browser??
[23:53] <lstarnes> distrohopper: some shells log their history
[23:53] <peter__> manas to si ty mano?
[23:53] <distrohopper> ty lstarnes, I will check htop out
[23:53] <[manas]> peter__, nerazumiam
[23:53] <Mike_lifeguard> lstarnes: dunno if you care: in /etc/init.d/bootlogs.sh:         # uname -snrvm > /var/run/motd # don't prepend uname junk to motd, nobody cares :D
[23:53] <lstarnes> Mike_lifeguard: just remember that updates to the initscripts packages will undo that
[23:54] <peter__> manas i have one with same nick :)) dont u are from slovak?
[23:54] <Mike_lifeguard> lstarnes: yep, I'm filing a bug now too :)
[23:54] <jhattara> has anyone used ext4 with jaunty ?
[23:54] <[manas]> peter__, not but i got lots slovak friends
[23:54] <bastidrazor> Mike_lifeguard: disabling update-motd is how you would prevent it being overwritten
[23:54] <lstarnes> Mike_lifeguard: if possible, label it as a feature request instead of a bug
[23:54] <peter__> manas u polish? :)))
[23:54] <[manas]> peter__, not
[23:55] <Mike_lifeguard> bastidrazor: I don't think that's true - update-motd's scripts are elsewhere
[23:55] <peter__> manas so?
[23:55] <[manas]> peter__, but cant speak too
[23:55] <fccf> !pl | peter__
[23:55] <bastidrazor> Mike_lifeguard: if the motd isn't updated then it isn't overwritten.
[23:55] <[manas]> peter__, russian
[23:55] <Mike_lifeguard> bastidrazor: and even if it was, that's still silly since having other stuff updated is nice.
[23:56] <peter__> manas ahah ok :))) but u not rite now in russia?
[23:56] <FoolishOwl> Does someone know where there's a clear description of the "1TBS" style of C and C++ code indentation?
[23:56] <Mike_lifeguard> Attention launchpad developers: put a goddamned "submit bug report" button on the main page. kthxbai
[23:56] <[manas]> peter__, not really
[23:58] <histo> Wasn't there a forum for eye candy stuff before?
[23:58] <[manas]> is anyone can help me how to connect to samba via browser do i need to write ip/myfiles or ip/home/samba or something else???


[03:00] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[03:05] <Ussat> So, this might or might not be the right place to post this, but I am gonna do it anyway. One of the fairly high profile devs of ansible , a RH employee and a friend, had a terrible loss a few days ago. His baby daughter died. Afew of us in #RHEL have started a Go Fund Me to help the family out. Just sayin.  https://www.gofundme.com/f/rhel-family-loss-ava-miller?d=:signedDonationId&utm_medium=email&utm_source=product&utm_campaign=p_email
[03:05] <Ussat> _m_pd-5332-donation-receipt-adyen&utm_content=internal
[03:06] <Ussat> Not spamming, and I appologize for the post, I know its really off topic
[03:07] <Ussat> and Good Morning
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> Ussat: do you know from what cause their baby died?
[03:10] <Ussat> I do not, they have said very little and are pretty much just keeping to themselvs at this point
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> allright, terrible news anyhow
[03:11] <Ussat> Aye, it is
[03:12] <Ussat> This is the Father of the baby:  https://developers.redhat.com/authors/adam-miller
[03:13] <sarnold> good guy
[03:13] <Ussat> Yes, very
[03:14] <Ussat> A lot of people took it hard
[06:47] <marcoagpinto> Morning!
[07:05] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:19] <ducasse> good morning
[19:29] <coconut> yes! ubuntu-20.04.2 is on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com :)
[19:53] <marcoagpinto> good news
[19:53] <marcoagpinto> :)


[02:54] <StevenK> wgrant: Shall we deploy, or do you think 4 revisions is not worth it?
[02:54] <lifeless> you know you want to
[02:56] <wgrant> StevenK: There's that translations fix that people are waiting for, despite it being pretty minor
[02:56] <wgrant> It excludes like 50 strings out of more than 50000 :/
[02:56] <wgrant> So we should probably deploy
[02:57]  * StevenK kicks the wiki
[02:57] <wgrant> (and those strings are all ""!)
[03:10] <wgrant> StevenK: Ohhh, nice catch
[03:10] <StevenK> wgrant: I *think*
[03:10] <StevenK> I'm not sure about it at all, but it's plausible
[03:11] <wgrant> Yeah
[03:11] <wgrant> I'm out of other ideas
[03:11] <wgrant> We fairly often encounter redirects, mostly http->https
[03:11] <StevenK> Right
[03:12] <StevenK> It's plausible enough
[03:12] <wgrant> r=me
[05:08] <StevenK> wgrant: Have you seen the current buildbot failure before?
[05:09] <wgrant> StevenK: Not in years. Force, or maybe check if there's stuff running on the slave
[06:55] <wgrant> StevenK: https://code.launchpad.net/~wgrant/launchpad/bug-503421/+merge/157033
[07:04] <lifeless> yay dino.
[07:04] <wgrant> Hm?
[07:04] <lifeless> the cleanup crap bug you invalidated
[07:05] <lifeless> the dude is back
[07:05] <wgrant> Oh good
[07:05] <wgrant> One wonders why he cares if I state that the Launchpad team does not.
[07:10] <lifeless> also wtf headdesk bug 45419
[07:10] <_mup_> Bug #45419: No way for unprivileged users to report (probable) spam or abusive content within Launchpad <canonical-losa-lp> <comments> <feature> <gatekeeper> <lp-foundations> <spam> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/45419 >
[07:10] <lifeless> reporting spam comments there.... is spam
[07:10] <wgrant> You might think so
[07:10] <wgrant> But our users apparently disagree...
[07:11] <lifeless> they are wrong
[07:11] <wgrant> Certainly.
[07:12] <wgrant> danilos: Do you have an opinion on bug #1162192? You appear to have been involved 18 months ago in the design of the daily garbo job which removes obsolete potmsgsets (sequence == 0), which seems to basically make obsolete potmsgsets pointless.
[07:12] <_mup_> Bug #1162192: Partial pot-files destroy translations <lp-translations> <Launchpad itself:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1162192 >
[07:13] <wgrant> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/814576
[07:13] <_mup_> Bug #814576: Remove unused POTMsgSets <qa-ok> <translations-handoff> <Launchpad itself:Fix Released by gmb> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/814576 >
[07:51] <StevenK> wgrant: Sorry, I was out. r=me
[08:06] <danilos> wgrant, hi, that does sound like a huge problem; I don't know why would I have implemented it like that, because you are right that it would make obsolete POTMsgSets obsolete
[08:06] <danilos> wgrant, I thought I helped implement a potmsgset pruner for potmsgsets which do not appear in any translationtemplateitems though, not obsolete ones (obsoleteness has nothing to do with it)
[08:08] <danilos> wgrant, this was probably a bad design on my part :/
[08:15] <danilos> wgrant, basically, we should not have done that for non-shared templates -- my thinking was probably modelled by the multi-series template sharing mechanism :/
[09:59] <wgrant> danilos: Yeah, I thought it seemed a bit strange to do it for obsolete messages, at least without a reasonably lengthy timeout. So it should just remove them when they're not referenced by any TTIs at all?
[10:00] <danilos> wgrant, yeah, but that holds all too easily if there's only a single potemplate in the "sharing set" (i.e. template with the same name among different series or in ubuntu)
[10:00] <danilos> wgrant, oh, I see, you are suggesting dropping the sequence=0 search
[10:01] <wgrant> danilos: What's the rule for sharing? Same (distribution, spn) or product, and same template name? Or same domain?
[10:01] <lifeless> wgrant: btw https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1073569 - ttx is having timeouts trying to edit task status
[10:02] <danilos> wgrant, a bit more complex: same (distribution, spn, templatename) or (product, templatename), but also if there is a link between a (distribution, spn) to product, then they get joined into a bigger set
[10:02] <wgrant> Oh right, I remembered the packaging case, but didn't manage to actually type it
[10:02] <wgrant> lifeless: That's quite a bug
[10:03] <wgrant> lifeless: Also, quite the most useless timeout report ever :)
[10:03] <wgrant> (ie. it's a criminal offense to report a timeout without an OOPS ID)
[10:04] <lifeless> wgrant: hey, I know, but I'm not a driver there and he didn't give me one
[10:04] <lifeless> he promised to file a bug when he has time...
[10:04] <lifeless> openstack is releasing today IIRC
[10:04] <wgrant> danilos: So, if you have time to consider what the right thing to do here is I'd really appreciate it. I'm still not completely confident in translations policy etc. If you don't have time, I'll work something out :)
[10:04] <lifeless> wgrant: I thought you might want to capture an oops from there even if he is swamped and forgets
[10:04] <wgrant> lifeless: k
[10:05] <lifeless> gnight :)
[10:05] <wgrant> Night lifeless
[10:08] <wgrant> lifeless: Found an OOPS, no surprises.
[10:08] <wgrant> Bug notifications are retarded, and OpenStack has hundreds of structsubs
[18:39] <lifeless> wgrant: ttx did get time - https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1164402
[18:39] <_mup_> Bug #1164402: Reproducible timeout updating a bug with a lot of tasks <Launchpad itself:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1164402 >
[22:45] <Adelein> Hi
[22:45] <Adelein> I have a question about pybars
[22:46] <Adelein> I am trying to find a good template engine that would allow me  to share templates between client and server django
[22:46] <Adelein> so I tried handlebars but I see that it has no template inheritance support
[22:47] <Adelein> does anyone know if there is support for template inheritance in pybars? or any way around it?
[22:48] <Adelein> or what other template engines do you use to share templates between JS and Django/python?
[22:53] <Adelein> any one out there?
[22:55] <wgrant> Adelein: I think someone managed to do inheritance using handlebars partials
[22:55] <wgrant> But I'm not sure. Google would know.
[22:56] <Adelein> hey, I did see how they do it by creating a helper in the handlebars.js, but then how to integrate it in pybars


[12:12] <troy_s> BHSPitLappy: Because they are just that damn on the ball.
[12:12] <BHSPitLappy> Canonical FTW  \o/
[11:30] <lapo> hi
[12:03] <neron> Hi folks
[12:03] <neron> I`m looking for software to install on my ubuntu to print CD labels for my audio CDs. The only requirement that I have is for it to be able to read CDTEXT off my CDs so I don`t have to type in the songs. If its integrated with k3b (or other burning soft) it would be helpful but not necessary.
[12:04] <neron> Does any of you guys know such software?


[01:35] <Plio> I know 14.04 is pretty much on a daily release, but is it stable enough for a production machine yet?
[01:36] <pietro10> Hi. In Kubuntu 14.04 with kde-config-gtk and gtk[23]-engines-oxygen, font rendering does not look like it does in KDE programs. Firefox, however, has perfect font rendering. How do I fix this? Thanks.
[01:36] <k1l> Plio: if you need to ask that the answer is just: no
[01:36] <k1l> Plio: it is quite stable, but there is no intention to keep it stable while in dev release. so no, no production systems suggested
[01:37] <Plio> kil: Cool, thanks. I'd love to install 12.04 LTS, but I really like the ability to close windows when using windows spread. Not sure if there's any way to do that.
[04:59] <jKlaus> Hey, is anyone here running 14.04?
[04:59] <jKlaus> if so, thoughts?
[05:00] <jKlaus> brb
[05:03] <genii> jKlaus: I'm on Kubuntu 14.04 and enjoying it thus far
[05:03] <jKlaus> genii, perhaps I'll download ubuntu 14.04 then
[05:03] <jKlaus> I doubt we'll see any bug fixes that can't be updated later..
[12:20] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:06] <jack> salut
[13:07] <jack> now if i want to upgrade a saucy install to trusty
[13:07] <jack> how would i start?
[13:08] <jack> is there a meta-pkg that dep-forces all the rest to newest?
[13:10] <jack> or do i only need to edit sources.list and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[13:10] <bekks> Neither nor.
[13:10] <jack> huh?
[13:10] <bekks> Use: do-release-upgrade -d
[13:10] <jack> after fixing sources.list?
[13:11] <bekks> No.
[13:11] <bekks> Dont touch the sources manually.
[13:11] <jack> does it as well? cool
[13:11] <k1l> jack: no "fixing" needed on ubuntu. we got routines for that.
[13:11] <jack> :)
[13:12] <jack> i still had to append a few entries
[13:12] <jack> like for google-chrome
[13:12] <k1l> hmm.
[13:12] <bekks> Remove all PPA before.
[13:13] <k1l> dont put them into the sources.list. on ubuntu they get entries in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[13:13] <jack> or adobe...because of the flash plugin
[13:13] <bekks> Uninstall all software instakled from PPA as well prior update.
[13:13] <jack> ok, thx
[13:15] <christoffer> Anyone else have any issues with printing in Xubuntu 14.04? ...when trying to print test page to network cups server it starts to print infinite empty pages
[13:16] <penguin42> christoffer: I'd check /var/log/cups to see if there are any errors

[13:18] <christoffer> penguin42, already done that, that's why I'm asking if someone here has had any similiar problems
[13:18] <christoffer> as I haven't found any problem/error messages
[13:22] <TJ-> christoffer: It's worth looking inside the spooled files to see what, exactly, is being sent to the printer
[14:41] <shadeslayer> pietro10: kde-config-touchpad should now be unbroken ( package still needs building and migration )
[14:41] <shadeslayer> pietro10: let me know if dist-upgrade still wants to remove it
[14:55] <BluesKaj> kde-touchpad is working here after a reboot
[15:12] <TJ-> Grrr! "grub-install: error: attempt to install to encrypted disk without cryptodisk enabled. Set `GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=1' in file `/etc/default/grub'." ... and yet it is specified!
[18:34] <mnemoc> hi, I upgraded to xubuntu 14.04 and the mouse pointer in my secondary display (VGA) is deform and followed by a black box... any hint of who can be responsible?
[18:34] <penguin42> graphics driver
[18:35] <penguin42> mnemoc: You can probably make it work again by setting the SWCursor option in an Xorg.conf fragment
[18:35] <mnemoc> I tried using xorg-edgers and still same problem... radeon
[18:36] <mnemoc> thanks, I'll try that
[18:36] <penguin42> mnemoc: OK, so reporting it to the upstream Radeon lists
[18:37] <mnemoc> is it ok to use radeon for an amd apu a5?
[18:38]  * penguin42 doesn't know
[18:38] <penguin42> I'd expect it to work, but there again I came across someones laptop with a very knew APU that refused to boot 13.10
[18:39] <penguin42> mnemoc: If you're only problem is the mouse pointer the SWCursor thing should work as a fix
[18:39] <mnemoc> i didn't get a display in 13.10 until I installed the xorg-edgers ppa, but iirc the driver name was different.
[18:39] <mnemoc> I'll try that SWCursor thing now. thanks
[18:39] <penguin42> mnemoc: OK, well that suggests 14.04 is getting there
[18:40] <mnemoc> :)
[18:43] <mnemoc> another issue I have is that 2 of my 3 USB ports (coming from my only usb3 hub) are in deep sleep :( even setting power/control to on and autosuspend to -1   :(
[18:47] <penguin42> one of the ports is oK?
[18:47] <penguin42> is this an onboard USB port ?
[19:01] <mnemoc> penguin42: SWCursor did the trick, thanks!
[19:01] <mnemoc> penguin42: yes, onboard USBs of my laptop
[19:02] <mnemoc> penguin42: the powered USB2.0 works fine, the USB3.0/5000M hub is in deep sleep :\
[19:02] <penguin42> mnemoc: OK, so I wonder about the 3rd port that isn't in deep sleep; some laptops have a USB port that's *always* powered even if the laptop in sleep, and I wonder if it's that one?
[19:02] <mnemoc> it is a yellow port... so yes, it's the case
[19:03] <mnemoc> (in 13.10 they all worked fine)
[19:03] <penguin42> ok, I'd file that against Linux and mark it as a regression
[19:04] <mnemoc> btw, i remembered the name of the video driver I used in 13.10, glamoregl... tried that one instead of radeon and got a nice serie of segfaults :p
[19:05] <mnemoc> penguin42: ubuntu-bug linux ?
[19:05] <penguin42> I thought modern X already used glamout
[19:05] <penguin42> mnemoc: Yeh I'd said so
[19:07] <astropirate> Hello friends
[19:07] <astropirate> How can I install the 14.04 Alpha without a DVD?
[19:07] <penguin42> use a USB thumb drive
[19:07] <teward> write the ISO to a USB drive
[19:07] <teward> blah, penguin42 beat me to it
[19:07] <astropirate> alright
[19:07] <astropirate> i have to go buy those :(
[19:07] <astropirate> i th ought i'd never have to buy another
[19:08] <penguin42> always good to have a few 4-8GB ones lying around for stuff like this
[19:08] <astropirate> yah perhaps
[19:08] <astropirate> i forgot my blank DVDs at work
[19:08] <astropirate> is the Alpha version usable?
[19:08] <k1l_> its a dev release
[19:08] <astropirate> I screwed up my current 12.04 install
[19:09] <astropirate> and instead of installing 13.10 and in a couple of months upgrading again
[19:09] <penguin42> it's a dev release but isn't doing too bad
[19:09] <k1l_> if you need to worry about stableness and usabilty then dont use it :/
[19:09] <astropirate> it would be very convenient to just upgrade to 14.04
[19:09] <bekks> astropirate: In April, you can.
[19:09] <astropirate> bekks, aye, I know it is being released as final in April, but wondering if it is usable now
[19:09] <astropirate> as in won't randomly crash
[19:10] <astropirate> "stable" relative word
[19:10] <bekks> astropirate: Until the final release, it is not stable.
[19:10] <astropirate> bekks, thanks buddy
[19:10] <mnemoc> penguin42: after ppa-purging xorg-edgers, glxinfo | grep render tells OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.4, 128 bits)
[19:11] <mnemoc> penguin42: and glamour is gone from dpkg -l
[19:14] <k1l_> astropirate: its usable. but as you know it will break if you need important stuff to do
[19:15] <BluesKaj> stability is the word, but not necessarily so on devs , but so far so good with Kubuntu 14.04 here
[19:15] <k1l_> yes, stability is in the focus after the release :)
[19:19] <BluesKaj> i dont need a stable release up to a point, since I'm not running work environment pc
[19:30] <mnemoc> penguin42: installing the ati driver solved the the hwcursor issue, and how glxinfo tells: OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD KABINI
[19:31] <mnemoc> no clue what's the diff between radeon and ati :(
[19:31] <penguin42> mnemoc: Check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:32] <penguin42> mnemoc: I thought the -ati was just a wrapper that loaded the appropriate driver
[19:32] <mnemoc> it pulled xserver-xorg-video-glamoregl in
[19:33] <mnemoc> but /var/log/Xorg.0.log still tells RADEON(0)...
[19:34] <mnemoc> now I only need to get my USB3 ports back to be completely happy :)
[19:40] <astropirate> I'm glad stability is the new focus
[19:40] <astropirate> specially after the 12.04 LTS debacle :(
[20:41] <astropirate> Upgrading to 14.04 wish me luck
[22:51] <mansoor> Friends, how do I get to the "restricted-drivers" application to install nvidia propiatory drivers?
[22:51] <mansoor> I can't seemt o be able to find it
[22:56] <mansoor> Anybody here?
[22:57] <k1l_> system settings, updates, last tab
[22:57] <k1l_> or you just use apt-get
[22:57] <k1l_> and 14.04 is still in dev-mode so installing a nvidia driver might not be the biggest challenge
[23:01] <mansoor> HAHAHAH wtf?
[23:01] <mansoor> i installed 14.04
[23:01] <mansoor> but it says 13.10 everywhere
[23:01] <mansoor> except the boot screen
[23:02] <k1l_> mansoor: you know its not final released yet?
[23:02] <mansoor> k1l_, yes. It just threw me off :p
[23:55] <pietro10> Hi. On KDE, all GTK+ apps except firefox-trunk for some reason are not rendering fonts properly, even though gtk[23]-engines-oxygen is set. How do I fix this? Thanks.