[13:47] <hoellp> sillyCEO, open system-systemconfig-synaptic package manager
[13:47] <hoellp> and search for firefox there
[13:47] <sillyCEO> hoellp: yes, found that.
[13:47] <Hodapp> well, with Firefox both ways work, really.
[13:47] <hoellp> that's how you "should" install all of your programs
[13:48] <nukedclx> finally
[13:48] <nukedclx> its vnc
[13:48] <nukedclx> thanks
[13:48] <JNSamuel> you should compile, really
[13:48] <sillyCEO> hoellp: But once I uninstall, where do I get it again?
[13:48] <hoellp> sillyCEO, exactly there
[13:48] <sillyCEO> heollp: Oh! I thought it would disappear!
[13:48] <hoellp> sillyCEO, but the question remains why you need to reinstall
[13:48] <hoellp> sillyCEO, in most cases that won't change anything
[13:49] <sillyCEO> hoellp: I have a bad add-in causing problems.
[13:49] <sillyCEO> add-on
[13:49] <hoellp> sillyCEO, can you start ff?
[13:49] <sillyCEO> yes
[13:49] <hoellp> but can't uninstall the addon i guess?
[13:49] <sillyCEO> heollp: yes, but I think it 'leaves' someting.
[13:50] <DASPRiD> MaT-dg, found a ppa of mozilla which daily ships the newest ff :)
[13:50] <hoellp> usually not
[13:50] <hoellp> sillyCEO, but we can make sure of that
[13:50] <MaT-dg> DASPRiD: nice, gimme gimme ^^
[13:50] <sillyCEO> hoellp: how?
[13:50] <hoellp> sillyCEO, you're on ubuntu (gnome-ui)?
[13:50] <DASPRiD> MaT-dg, http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/05/daily-firefox-35-36-repository-for.html
[13:50] <sillyCEO> heollp: Eeebuntu. On an EeePC
[13:50] <DASPRiD> currently rc2 is in there, should soon update to final
[13:51] <hoellp> sillyCEO,  then please open the filemanager in your home-directory
[13:51] <hoellp> sillyCEO, that's gnome, yeah, a little modified
[13:51] <sillyCEO> heollp: OK in file manager
[13:51] <hoellp> sillyCEO, once in homefolder, press ctrl+h to see the hidden folders
[13:51] <drew_> anyone have the splinter cell linux install for xbox?
[13:51] <hoellp> sillyCEO, the ones with "." before
[13:51] <hoellp> sillyCEO, find .mozilla
[13:51] <sillyCEO> heollp: done
[13:52] <sillyCEO> heollp: OK
[13:52] <hoellp> if you don't care about ff settings, you can just rename/delete it
[13:52] <hoellp> sillyCEO, then you're back to factorysettings
[13:52] <johnrdavisjr> What would be the best ubuntu spin to use for audio recording?
[13:52] <sillyCEO> heollp: wow, cool.
[13:52] <sillyCEO> heollp: It will make a new one when I start FF?
[13:52] <hoellp> sillyCEO, yes
[13:53] <sillyCEO> heollp: Will give it a shot, thx
[13:53] <hoellp> you can export your bookmarks before if you want
[13:53] <sillyCEO> heollp: So delete the whole hidden .mozilla folder?
[13:53] <JNSamuel> why not remove the extension in ~/.mozilla/firefox/<profile>.default/extensions ?
[13:53] <JNSamuel> that way you dont loose your settings
[13:53] <hoellp> sillyCEO, like i said, just do it if you won't miss anything
[13:54] <sillyCEO> heollp: dont care about settings.
[13:54] <sillyCEO> JNSamual: Good idea, but settings aren't important.
[13:54] <DASPRiD> MaT-dg, is it just me or is the GUI font in ff-3.5 larger than in the 3.0 install?
[13:54] <hoellp> sillyCEO, then go ahaed, that should make sure it works, regardless of the addon
[13:54] <hoellp> sillyCEO, if you're sure what the problem is, you can also delete just the addon
[13:55] <hoellp> but i think .mozilla is really a mess
[13:55] <MaT-dg> DASPRiD: just a sec, still busy adding the repo
[13:55] <sillyCEO> heollp: And the add on is in the location that JSamuel said?
[13:56] <hoellp> yes, but some store their settings in folders in .mozilla/firefox
[13:56] <hoellp> what are we talking about anyways?
[13:56] <johnrdavisjr> does anyone have any idea how to record skype conversations?
[13:57] <blankthemuffin> Hi, just wondering what the package name for the flgrx ati drivers is. I need to be able to disable it and drop back to the open source drivers via apt, is this simple?
[13:57] <boss_mc> blankthemuffin: to revert to ati drivers, jut change your Xorg.conf to read Driver "ati"
[13:57] <hoellp> blankthemuffin, you have to manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf there you can state which driver is in use
[13:57] <lesshaste> my root partition /dev/sda2 is full and I have another partition /dev/sda4 which I don't use at all.. can I add it to the root partition in some clever way?
[13:58] <hoellp> lesshaste, not easily if you can't resize them
[13:58] <lesshaste> hoellp: how can I tell if I can resize them?
[13:58] <hoellp> lesshaste, and i guess there is another partition in between
[13:59] <indus> lesshaste: well,i dont think you can add, but resize probably with live cd
[13:59] <lesshaste> hoellp: http://pastebin.com/f3d915f8
[13:59] <hoellp> lesshaste, which makes it kinda hard, except you can backup sda3, remove both 3+4, resize 2 and make a new 3
[13:59] <hoellp> lesshaste, that's even worse
[14:00] <lesshaste> oh really?
[14:00] <lesshaste> tell me more
[14:00] <hoellp> lesshaste, your sda3 is the extended, which hosts 3 other partitions
[14:00] <sillyCEO_> hoellp: That worked amazing. Like a fresh Firefox. Thanks you a million times, that's a great trick!
[14:00] <hoellp> lesshaste, so you'd have to backup everything and start over partitioning, that's not really an option
[14:00] <hoellp> sillyCEO_, you're very welcome
[14:01] <lesshaste> hoellp: :((
[14:01] <lesshaste> hoellp: any lvm is too painful?
[14:01] <hoellp> lesshaste, how big is your root?
[14:01] <hoellp> lesshaste, on a running system?
[14:01] <hoellp> lesshaste, not something i'd recommend
[14:01] <Titan8990_> lesshaste, lvm on / is painful... anywhere else is good
[14:01] <lesshaste> hoellp: it's sda2
[14:01] <lesshaste> err
[14:01] <lesshaste> no
[14:02] <Machtin> I'm looking for a tool to directly rip the audio-stream from a youtube-video
[14:02] <Titan8990_> lesshaste, if you have a regular partition on / and lvm for say /usr /home and /tmp that is ideal for a lvm configuration
[14:02] <lesshaste> hoellp: sda4 ... http://pastebin.com/f1f6a6c5f
[14:02] <Machtin> does anyone know a tool, which does that?
[14:02] <`PuTaNg> Hi everyone, I am trying to install a BNC on my server running 8.04 Hardy Heron. The "configure" script which compiles the BNC executable binary uses GNU C compiler which I have installed, but I get an error message stating:    "configure: error: C compiler               cannot create executables"   Is there anyone that can help me with this please?
[14:02] <hoellp> lesshaste, / "should" be about 10 gig
[14:02] <lesshaste> Machtin: you can download the video and then use mencoder I think
[14:03] <Titan8990_> `PuTaNg, try sudo or root
[14:03] <MaT-dg> DASPRiD: I can't get the key for the repo
[14:03] <Machtin> lesshaste: i know, but i want one tool to do both :)
[14:03] <lesshaste> hoellp: right.. mine is 6763333 but if I added sda2 it would be perfect :)
[14:03] <hoellp> lesshaste, do you have backups?
[14:03] <`PuTaNg> ah ok will try ty
[14:03] <lesshaste> hoellp: not really... I could go down that route
[14:03] <Machtin> if there is.. if not i will need to use your method
[14:03] <lo127> anyone know the name of the app that send WOL packages?
[14:03] <DASPRiD> MaT-dg, sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com EF4186FE247510BE
[14:03] <hoellp> lesshaste, where do you want to add sda2?
[14:03] <hoellp> i though that's your /
[14:04] <lesshaste> hoellp: I want to add it to /
[14:04] <lesshaste> sda2 is spare
[14:04] <lesshaste> sda4 is root
[14:04] <lesshaste> sorry about this
[14:04] <lesshaste> sda5 is /
[14:04] <FloodBot2> lesshaste: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:04] <lesshaste> I can't type today
[14:04] <fenn_> hello, I have "printer not connected" after upgrade to jaunty on /dev/lp0 - but the printer is connected and worked fine with intrepid
[14:04] <hoellp> ah
[14:04] <lesshaste> hoellp: look at http://pastebin.com/f1f6a6c5f
[14:04] <lesshaste>   It doesn't have typos :)
[14:04] <hoellp> that makes it a lot easier
[14:04] <Shishire_Maiga> Ok, I've got a bit of an unusual problem.  I had some trouble with my partitions recently, and just now recovered them.  However, one of them, my home partition had a slightly larger filesystem (ext3) than it has a partition.  I can mount it fine, and as far as I can tell, all the data is fine, but when I run e2fsck, it tells me that the superblock says the FS is too large, and then proceeds to work fine. http
[14:04] <lo127> found it, its "etherwake"
[14:05] <noMaster> I'm going to create new partition table on HDD by Gparted. What kind of it I should choose? Are there any advanteges for each kind? I will have 3 primary partiotion with linux, windows and filetemp.
[14:05] <hoellp> lesshaste, still, you'd have to cut a piece of sda4 and add to sda5
[14:05] <sipior> `PuTaNg: have you installed the "build-essential" package? you'll need more than just the compiler itself.
[14:05] <lesshaste> hoellp: do you mean something else? sda4 is not part of this story
[14:05] <hoellp> less then you can remove sda2, add it to the extended (sda3) and finally add it to sda4
[14:05] <Titan8990_> Shishire_Maiga, use resize2fs to restore the partition to the original size
[14:05] <`PuTaNg> ty i will check
[14:06] <Shishire_Maiga> oh, good :D I forgot about that
[14:06] <hoellp> lesshaste, the problem is, you can only resize partitions when they're physically beside each other
[14:06] <lesshaste> hoellp: hmm
[14:06] <hoellp> lesshaste, so you can't just add sda2 to 5
[14:06] <hoellp> you can add from 4 to 5
[14:06] <Titan8990_> hoellp, with lvm you can mix and match however you choose
[14:07] <`PuTaNg> ty sipior, no it wasnt installed :$
[14:07] <fenn_> please help! "printer not connected"
[14:07] <hoellp> Titan8990_, then you should guide him through setting one up for root on a running system
[14:07] <MaT-dg> DASPRiD: okay, worked :) now, wich one? firefox-3.1 package?
[14:07] <DASPRiD> 3.5
[14:07] <Titan8990_> hoellp, hehe, I already advised against having root on a lvm
[14:07] <lesshaste> hoellp: I could just copy a directory over I suppose from 5 to 2
[14:07] <Shishire_Maiga> Titan8990_: thank you very much, its all fixed now :D
[14:07] <hoellp> lesshaste, hmm
[14:07] <Titan8990_> Shishire_Maiga, excellent
[14:08] <lesshaste> hoellp: not a good idea?
[14:08] <hoellp> lesshaste, not so easily
[14:08] <lesshaste> hoellp: why not? Can't I mount /var wherever I want? for example
[14:08] <noMaster> I'm going to create new partition table on HDD by Gparted. What kind of it I should choose? Are there any advanteges for each kind? I will have 3 primary partiotion with linux, windows and filetemp.
[14:08] <Titan8990_> lesshaste, uhh, at /var...
[14:08] <fenn_> please help, printer not connected lp0
[14:08] <hoellp> lesshaste, you can
[14:08] <lesshaste> Titan8990_: ?
[14:08] <Titan8990_> lesshaste, /var is an absolute path
[14:08] <hoellp> lesshaste, at least some of the dirs
[14:08] <djiezes> Anyone can tell me if we should expect the Firefox update (3.5) - which comes today - to appear in Jaunty's default repositories? If so, today? Later? Or will we have to wait for Ubuntu 9.10?
[14:08] <lesshaste> Titan8990_: I mean on whatever partition I want
[14:09] <aegiz> .
[14:09] <Titan8990_> lesshaste, yes
[14:09] <sipior> djiezes: i believe it's slated for 9.10.
[14:09] <hoellp> lesshaste, it's just not easy to accomplish without bricking the system
[14:09] <fenn_> please help, printer not connected lp0 - was my parallel card dropped from jaunty?
[14:09] <lesshaste> hoellp: :)
[14:09] <unop> hoellp, mounting /var somewhere else - will brick the system?
[14:09] <hoellp> lesshaste, the easiest way'd be a backup, repartitioning and reinstalling
[14:09] <Titan8990_> fenn_, try: cupsenable lpt0
[14:10] <lesshaste> hoellp: :(
[14:10] <hoellp> unop, if you don't know how to resize partitions on an installed system
[14:10] <hoellp> unop, chances are not so bad
[14:10] <suwro> hello
[14:10] <sipior> fenn_: are we supposed to guess all of the details, then?
[14:10] <lesshaste> in theory, could I move the partitions round using parted or similar and then add 2 to 5?
[14:10] <djiezes> sipior: so the current FF 3.0.11 won't update itself to 3.5 in this Ubuntu release? Will they convert the current 3.5 beta package to final then?
[14:10] <jamiewan> can someone please advise me of a good program to burn .avi files to dvd, ive tried tovid and todisc with no success :-(
[14:10] <`PuTaNg> Titan8990_ & sipior thanks, its all fine now :)
[14:10] <hoellp> lesshaste, with some legwork, yes
[14:10] <sipior> djiezes: i've no idea.
[14:11] <joaopinto> djiezes, you should not expect major release upgrades on a released version
[14:11] <suwro> Pidgin is not connecting to yhoo any more - can someone confirm this? is a bug?
[14:11] <hoellp> lesshaste, like i said, you can cut off a piece of 4 to make 5 bigger
[14:11] <Titan8990_> lesshate, really, you could make a tar image of the entire filesystem, repartition and then copy all the files back over
[14:11] <lesshaste> hoellp: ok.. this seems ok
[14:11] <Titan8990_> lesshaste, using whatever new partition scheme you want
[14:11] <Huda^_^> woy
[14:11] <joaopinto> suwro, there is a known problem, either you need to setup a specific server, or upgrade pidgin
[14:11] <Huda^_^> iam huda
[14:11] <Titan8990_> lesshaste, just remember to have tar preserve perms when tarring and untarring
[14:11] <hoellp> lesshaste, than you can also delete 2, add it to the extended partition, and then add it to sda4, so you can use the whole space
[14:11] <lesshaste> Titan8990_: I wasn't going to tar but thanks
[14:11] <MaT-dg> DASPRiD: it's that shiretoko thing again..
[14:11] <DASPRiD> yes
[14:11] <suwro> joaopinto: i'm using the latest from repo.
[14:12] <DASPRiD> MaT-dg, cause rc2
[14:12] <lesshaste> hoellp: looks like fun with partition magic :)
[14:12] <hoellp> lesshaste, will you do it from windows?
[14:12] <joaopinto> suwro, I am not sure the repository version will be fixed
[14:12] <DASPRiD> MaT-dg, final weill be renamed.. the question is, is the gui font size for you larger as well as in ff 3.0 or other applications?
[14:12] <djiezes> joaopinto , sipior: okay, thanks for the input, i'll see how the packages evolve tomorrow & probably look for a repo that offers 3.5 then.
[14:12] <hoellp> i'd recommend a livecd
[14:12] <suwro> joaopinto: where can I find more info about this problem?
[14:12] <Titan8990_> lesshaste, you MUST use tar unless you are backing up to linux partition
[14:12] <MaT-dg> DASPRiD: oh, anyway, it still has the same problems...
[14:12] <lesshaste> hoellp: I was going to make a partition magic boot disk
[14:12] <Titan8990_> lesshaste, it you made a file backup to say, FAT32, you will lose all UNIX perms
[14:12] <DASPRiD> MaT-dg, which?
[14:12] <Titan8990_> lesshaste, unless its archived
[14:12] <hoellp> lesshaste, good idea, there is also a gparted iso which is pretty small
[14:13] <lesshaste> Titan8990_: I am not doing that but don't worry
[14:13] <MaT-dg> DASPRiD: but the font is no different from 3.0 here
[14:13] <lesshaste> hoellp: thanks for your help
[14:13] <joaopinto> suwro, search on launchpad, it should be reported there
[14:13] <joaopinto> !launchpad | suwro
[14:13] <DASPRiD> MaT-dg, then thats just me :)
[14:13] <suwro> thank you
[14:13] <hoellp> lesshaste, sure, just ask if you have some more questions
[14:13] <hoellp> lesshaste, and tripplecheck everything
[14:14] <hoellp> lesshaste, and if everything goes wrong, get yourself a copy of testdisk
[14:14] <hoellp> very small, very powerfull
[14:14] <lesshaste> thanks
[14:14] <jetblast> hey guys, i keep getting unclean shut downs over and over
[14:14] <T|-|e_SLiDeR__> can anyone tell how to find the desktop switcher in KDE 4.2
[14:15] <hoellp> lesshaste, another thing, make / big enough for the next 10 years
[14:15] <jetblast> i have ubuntu 9.04
[14:15] <hoellp> lesshaste, i like to go with 15-20 gb
[14:15] <MaT-dg> DASPRiD: problems at first sight > back forward does not work, clicking on no-scipt plugin icon in statusbar doen not react, weave addon doesn't sign in
[14:15] <noMaster> I'm going to create new partition table on HDD by Gparted. What kind of it I should choose? Are there any advanteges for each kind? I will have 3 primary partiotion with linux, windows and filetemp.
[14:15] <crankharder> some script I'm hacking is using "kfmclient openURL some_url" to open the url in the default browser, and it's not working on my box -- is there another command that's installed on *most* linux distros that can handle this?
[14:16] <lesshaste> hoellp: thanks....
[14:16] <Pici> crankharder: ##linux would be a better place to ask for cross-distro compatibility
[14:16] <jetblast> i keep getting unclean shut downs on reboot or just plain shut down.  it never did that before. i uninstalled seamonkey and opera and i dont know what is causing my unclean shut downs now.
[14:16] <sipior> crankharder: you can try "gnome-open"
[14:16] <jetblast> those 2 programs were the last 2 installed
[14:16] <jamiewan> can someone tell me a good prog to burn .avi files to dvd, tried tovid and todisc no good
[14:16] <hoellp> crankharder,  you can check if it's gnome or kde
[14:17] <hoellp> crankharder, for kde it's kfmclient, for gnome gnome-open
[14:17] <hoellp> crankharder, but you can try xdg-browser(?) as well i think
[14:17] <DASPRiD> MaT-dg, hm, the buttons work here
[14:17] <joaopinto> crankharder, xdg-open url
[14:17] <hoellp> joaopinto, ah, y, right
[14:17] <Pici> MaT-dg, DASPRiD: fyi, the versions of 3.5 in Jaunty are betas, even the version in Karmic is RC2.
[14:18] <bobzillion> T|-|e_SLiDeR, you can add "pager" as a widget to the KDE toolbar.
[14:18] <hoellp> crankharder,  that covers lsb-conform distros
[14:18] <DASPRiD> picca, i'm using the rc2 from the mozilla daily ppa
[14:18] <DASPRiD> * Pici
[14:18] <T|-|e_SLiDeR__> jamiewan: ,do you just want it so it will play in any DVD player
[14:18] <gangil> jetblast: even I suffered the same problem , but after updating it all went off... is your system up to date?
[14:18] <MaT-dg> DASPRiD: grayed out all the time, togheter woth the reload end stop button. Also mouse side buttons don't work
[14:18] <DASPRiD> MaT-dg, well not here
[14:18] <DASPRiD> must have something to do with a plugin of you or so
[14:18] <jetblast> gangil: yes, i installed some security updates and then all of a sudden, my computer started doing it
[14:19] <jamiewan> T|-|_slider: yes mate
[14:19] <T|-|e_SLiDeR__> there is one called DeVeDe
[14:19]  * gangil doesnt know the cause of the problem :(, but his problem solved after recent updates :D
[14:20] <crankharder> thanx everyone
[14:20] <vise> crankharder: you are welcome :)
[14:20] <os78L05> #connect
[14:21] <jamiewan> tried that also, ive got quiet a few installed but none seem to work, i have good success disc to disc burn with k9copy but thats a\ll i can manage
[14:21] <testi_> How can I change the master password of my keyring?
[14:21] <T|-|e_SLiDeR__> so whats it doing wrong
[14:21] <jamiewan> just6 says it cant open disc
[14:22] <sonium> hi, how can I put together files produced by split command?
[14:22] <testi_> I changed the user password and now it keeps asking for the (previous) password
[14:22] <testi_> when an applications wants to access the key ring
[14:22] <ninix> hi, does anyone is familiar with raid arrays rebuild here ?
[14:23] <Pistos> Hi all. Wondering if tehre is anyone here who more or less officially deals with Ruby under Ubuntu?  I may have found a bug in Ubuntu's build of Ruby (because it odesn't appear in Debian or Gentoo).
[14:23] <maxownz> anyone know where I could sign<EMAIL_ADDRESS>up for copious amounts of spam?
[14:23] <testi_> got to go :( see you later
[14:23] <Pici> maxownz: not here.
[14:23] <T|-|e_SLiDeR__> jamiewan:  did you add the extra  repositories
[14:24] <Z-bob> maxownz, this not the place for that.
[14:24] <jamiewan> Yes all installed as far as i can see
[14:24] <hoellp> Pistos, www.launchpad.net is the way to go
[14:24] <os78L05> connect
[14:24] <agey> hello
[14:24] <hossam> hello, i deleted a folder from an additional mounted drive and even removed from the trash, is there a chance i can recover this folder?
[14:24] <MaT-dg> DASPRiD: then it's quite useless for me, I need my plugins :) Also the most important reason for me to have 3.5 (except for the new engines) is compatibility for the weave addon... wich still doesn't work
[14:24] <fenn_> hello, printer problem solved by adding "parport_pc" to /etc/modules and rebooting
[14:24] <Pistos> hoellp: I tried there, but never got the registration e-mail [to my spam-protecting email proxy service].
[14:24] <agey> anyone know how to set datetime from terminal without authentication?
[14:24] <Pistos> hoellp: But I'll try again.
[14:25] <Pici> agey: You cannot, why do you need to be able to do that?
[14:25] <jamiewan> T|-|e_slider: hell your nick is hard to type, yep all installed i'm sure
[14:25] <Pici> !tab | jamiewan
[14:25] <Pistos> hoellp: Thank you for your response.
[14:25] <T|-|e_SLiDeR__> smiles
[14:25] <topramen> can anyone tell me what telnet is and why they are floating through my pc?<<<<<
[14:25] <hoellp> Pistos, this is just usersupport here
[14:25] <Pistos> hoellp: Okay, thanks.
[14:25] <termos> is there a fix for the eduroam bug in gnome network manager in ubuntu?
[14:25] <hoellp> Pistos, but you can try #ubuntu-dev, but it's not so easy to get a hold on someone
[14:26] <hossam> hello, i deleted a folder from an additional mounted drive and even removed from the trash, is there a chance i can recover this folder?
[14:26] <Pistos> hoellp: Okay, I will do that, thanks!
[14:26] <hoellp> hossam, you can try testdisk for example
[14:27] <MaT-dg> DASPRiD: besides, now 3.5 is fully released today it won't take ages for the repo's to update I guess?
[14:27] <hossam> hoellp, i read that somewhere else, i ran it and it asked me whether i should have tried all the disk, or unallocated space
[14:27] <T|-|e_SLiDeR__> is there any way to have different pictures on each desktop
[14:27] <hossam> hoellp, when choosing the whole disk that would have taken 33 hours or something, would the folder be found in unallocated space now?
[14:28] <agey> sorry, I was lost connection
[14:28] <ubuntu> hi all
[14:28] <hoellp> hossam, probably not
[14:28] <hoellp> hossam, you should check the partition where the file was
[14:28] <hossam> hoellp, so should i just let it run the recovery for 33 hours and hope it will find the directory? and will the directory structure be maintained?
[14:28] <ubuntu> i1ve problem.when ubuntu boots up 'panic kernel' message appears
[14:28] <DASPRiD> MaT-dg, afaik no 3.5 before 9.10 in the official repos
[14:29] <hossam> hoellp, i let it begin and it just created a compressed file
[14:29] <MaT-dg> T|-|e_SLiDeR__: yes, if u have KDE u can do it nativly I heard. In gnome u have to disable nautilus drawning the desktop and use the compiz wallpaper plugin. However, disabling nautilus drawning the desktop means that u have no more icons on the desktop
[14:29] <hoellp> hossam, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[14:29] <hossam> hoellp, will do thanks
[14:29] <MaT-dg> DASPRiD: I can't believe they are going to wait until october
[14:30] <DASPRiD> MaT-dg, i think they will
[14:30] <hoellp> DASPRiD, but you can still install ff3.5 manually when it's released
[14:30] <T|-|e_SLiDeR__> not sure what you mean MaT-dg
[14:30] <hoellp> and there probably will be a PPA for it
[14:30] <DASPRiD> hoellp, right
[14:30] <DASPRiD> hoellp, there already is
[14:30] <DASPRiD> the mozilla daily ppa
[14:30] <MaT-dg> T|-|e_SLiDeR__: are u using gnome?
[14:31] <progre55> hi people! how do you set a specific encoding in a terminal?
[14:32] <MaT-dg> hoellp: just hope that they have 64bit source to then.. couln't find it for the beta's/rc's
[14:32] <progre55> set SMTH=utf8
[14:32] <hoellp> MaT-dg, there is already a 64bit in karmic
[14:32] <progre55> but dont remember what that SMTH was =)
[14:32] <Guest24779> Hi there. does someone know how to build a custom ubuntu install CD ?
[14:32] <hoellp> MaT-dg, so there probably will be one for jaunty too
[14:33] <Guest24779> Built from an actual config
[14:33] <ubuntu> is some tool that in easy way for noobs can restore grub in gnome?
[14:33] <hoellp> Guest24779, search for remastersys please
[14:33] <ubuntu> sorry some=any
[14:34] <Z-bob> Guest24779, look at this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[14:34] <hoellp> Guest24779, there is also uck which is specific to ubuntu
[14:36] <hoellp> ubuntu, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows please
[14:37] <hoellp> which is kinda long ;)
[14:37] <ThJ> The fonts in the Ubuntu netbook launcher are rather unreadable. Is there a way to adjust the font gamma?
[14:42] <bharath> hi
[14:42] <bharath> anybody there ?
[14:42] <Z-bob> bharath, hi.
[14:42] <bharath> hello
[14:42] <bharath> nive to meet u bob
[14:42] <bharath> *nice
[14:43] <Z-bob> bharath, what's going on?
[14:43] <bharath> nothing
[14:43] <bharath> jus checked in
[14:43] <bharath> wat ya doing ?
[14:43] <bharath> wer r u from bob ?
[14:43] <allquixotic> Hello! On a minimal Ubuntu 9.04 x86_64, I am seeing a high CPU Load of 1.00 (pegging one of my four cores) on an otherwise-idle system, and the only processes that occasionally appear on top are md2_raid5 and md2_resync. Is it a bug that these processes are so busy on a completely idle system that is only running core services and SSH?
[14:43] <Z-bob> bharath, waiting for a tech question.  nhf. but this is not a social channel.
[14:44] <Paddy_EIRE> Is there a tool that could monitor my mobile broadband connection so that I can keep track of my usage?
[14:44] <bharath> is der any editor i can use to write my c++ codes
[14:44] <bharath> ?
[14:44] <bharath> n i wanna learn embedded c++ ?
[14:44] <Paddy_EIRE> bharath: use gedit
[14:45] <mhall119> allquixotic: you're running raid5?
[14:45] <bharath> can i use gcc to compile my embedded c++codes ?
[14:45] <allquixotic> mhall119, correct
[14:45] <cyberghoser1> hello to all :)
[14:46] <mhall119> bharath: you can use any edit, gedit is light and non-fancy, or you can get Eclipse and the CDT
[14:46] <allquixotic> mhall119, I'm a bit puzzled as to why the software RAID should be doing _any_ kind of disk I/O when there aren't any files being written to or read from. `lsof` shows only a few idle daemon sockets.
[14:46] <dAnon> how do I modify text files via terminal?
[14:46] <ubuntu> when i try to use chroot command appears message 'unable to run command `bin/bash':no such file or directory'
[14:46] <mhall119> dAnon: vi
[14:46] <mhall119> or gedit if you've got a desktop running
[14:46] <cyberghoser1> dAnon, or gedit or nano
[14:46] <bharath> thanks !
[14:47] <dAnon> how do I form the command to use gedit to edit certain file?
[14:47] <Z-bob> Paddy_EIRE, http://www.pcurtis.com/ubuntu-mobile.htm#connection_monitoring
[14:47] <dAnon> cat file |gedit doesn't work
[14:47] <dAnon> it opens a emty file
[14:47] <dAnon> empty
[14:47] <dAnon> an
[14:47] <bharath> is der any libraries to be updated for compiling embedded codes ?
[14:47] <sipior> dAnon: gedit "file" will do
[14:47] <bnmrrs_> Hey guys, I have a D-Link dwa-130c wireless usb adaptor and I'm trying to install it with this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper It says to download the appropriate files but I'm not quite sure how to do that.. Could somebody point me in the right direction?
[14:47] <Z-bob> dAnon, use "gedit [file]"
[14:47] <moncky> dAnon: gedit file
[14:48] <bharath> cuz the ebooks says cross compilers
[14:48] <bharath> all
[14:48] <mhall119> bharath: you'd need to ask the maintainers of the embedded code you'll be working on
[14:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Z-bob: cheers I will have a look at it later I gotta run at the minute, cheers mate :)
[14:48] <dAnon> thx a lot
[14:48] <mhall119> dAnon: when in doubt, run "man <command>" for more info
[14:48] <dAnon> tried it earlier but for some reason didn't work
[14:49] <Z-bob> Paddy_EIRE, that's not the perfect tutorial, but it's a start.  cheers
[14:49] <dAnon> thx I'll remember
[14:49] <bharath> thanks
[14:50] <tw3ak> hello everyone
[14:50] <dAnon> how to escape that man help
[14:50] <dAnon> typed man cat
[14:50] <tw3ak> hit "q"
[14:50] <Z-bob> dAnon, "q"
[14:51] <dAnon> ok
[14:52] <sillyCEO> Anyone know where can I sell my tiny Koolu Linux boxes?
[14:52] <ubuntuyo_> Anyone use skype on ubuntu?
[14:52] <pgiroux> need help configurng a tablet PC (lenovo x200)...  anyone has experienced?
[14:52] <mhall119> sillyCEO: ebay?
[14:52] <cyberghoser1> ubuntuyo_, yes me
[14:52] <ubuntuyo_> cyberghoser1 how is the quility
[14:53] <pgiroux> anyone used Jaunty with a tablet PC?
[14:53] <cyberghoser1> ubuntuyo_, so far good
[14:53] <ubuntuyo_> cyberghoser1 I mean on the voice chatting
[14:53] <sillyCEO> mhall119: Yeah, I was hoping there was an Ubuntu/linux classified for old hardware. eBay would be OK...
[14:53] <mhall119> sillyCEO: I've seen people selling rebranded classmate PCs on target.com and sears.com
[14:53] <ubuntuyo_> cyberghoser1 is there any noisy?
[14:53] <tw3ak> I have a question?, I 've had some issues with flash movies in hulu, I updated to the current flash from adobe by going to their site. still had some issues. then I rebuilt my kernel with pentium4 optimizations.  I wish to continue to tweak the kernel, but I installed as a deb. how can I rebuild the kernel each time without errors? using deb or not?
[14:53] <mhall119> sillyCEO: are these manufactured or refurbished boxes?
[14:53] <Z-bob> sillyCEO, Ebay.  this is not ebay.
[14:53] <cyberghoser1> ubuntuyo_, good, a little bit
[14:53] <ubuntuyo_> cyberghoser1 ok. thanks for your answer.
[14:53] <cyberghoser1> tw3ak, try flash 9 maybe?
[14:54] <tw3ak> I'm currently using kernel 2.6.30
[14:54] <tw3ak> cyber that was not my question
[14:54] <sillyCEO> Z-bob: yes I know :) I was hoping there's a good Linux hardware swap site somewhere.
[14:54] <mhall119> sillyCEO: not that I know of
[14:54] <tw3ak> I'm using the latest flash from adobe the flash problem is fixed
[14:54] <cyberghoser1> tw3ak, sorry dude just waked up :) :P
[14:54] <ubuntuyo_> cyberghoser1 can i Know what do you use a soundcard.?
[14:54] <sillyCEO> mhall119: Manufactured. 500Mhz little black boxes.
[14:54] <tw3ak> I want to further customize my kernel as the   first change made such a great fix
[14:55] <mhall119> sillyCEO: then you should try target.com and sears.com
[14:55] <joabe> oi
[14:55] <sillyCEO> mhall119: OK, thanks!
[14:55] <mhall119> or team up with someone like system76
[14:55] <joabe> hi
[14:55] <ubuntuyo_> tw3ak any problem in flash?
[14:55] <cyberghoser1> ubuntuyo_, intel one
[14:55] <tw3ak> nope
[14:55] <cyberghoser1> ubuntuyo_, intergrated
[14:55] <bananamuffin> ok, i am running jaunty on a acer aspire one AOA 150, the only problem i am having is that my sound isnt working. its currently set to HDA intel ( alsa mixer )
[14:55] <ubuntuyo_> cyberghoser1 on board?
[14:55] <cyberghoser1> ubuntuyo_, yeap
[14:55] <joabe> ou esta com poblema com o java
[14:55] <dva5912> At setup i told ubuntu that i want to automaticaly log in. But now i dont, is there anyway to change it?
[14:55] <tw3ak> fixed it with pentium4 opts in kernel recompile and getting tgz from macromedia
[14:56] <mhall119> bananamuffin: have you tried OSS?
[14:56] <joabe> ubuntu
[14:56] <bananamuffin> nope, where do i find that
[14:56] <mhall119> dva5912: System0>Administration->Login Window->Security
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[14:57] <ubuntuyo_> dva5912 it's easy on ubuntu.
[14:57] <joabe> alguem de brazilian
[14:57] <joabe> ?
[14:57] <mhall119> bananamuffin: System->Preferences->Sound->Playback Device
[14:57] <bananamuffin> lol nvm mhall lol
[14:57] <tw3ak> my movies run better with the opts , I want to continue to optimize my kernel... I compiled and installed as a deb if I want to recompile the same kernel again do I just do the same or will the deb package have a problem reiiinstalling the same kernel with slight changes?
[14:57] <sadfa> anyone knows how i can get this http://dirac.org/linux/gdb/ into a file so i can read it offline?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> in Gnome in Jaunty is there: System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[14:57] <dva5912> i think my resoloution is to small for ubuntu. The close button isnt visible.
[14:57] <dva5912> and i cant get higher resolutions i dont think
[14:57] <bananamuffin> ubuntu can run 800x600
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> dva5912: use alt + drag to allow you to click anywhere
[14:58] <mhall119> ActionParsnip: it's called "Display" now, not "Screen Resolution"
[14:58] <dva5912> ActionParsnip: i can drag it but not just up
[14:58] <mhall119> dva5912: alt+F7 will let you move the window around
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> mhall119: thanks, i dont use gnome and have someone asking :)
[14:58] <tw3ak> can I reinstall an already installed .deb file?
[14:59] <dva5912> alt f7 did it. Thanks!
[14:59] <mhall119> tw3ak: I think so, but you might want to do your own versioning on the debs you're making
[14:59] <dva5912> now so with that. Next question how can i force this thing into higher resolutions?
[14:59] <mhall119> dva5912: it will try to auto-detect the capabilities of your video card and monitor
[14:59] <dva5912> im not too enirely fond of the 1024X800
[15:00] <mhall119> dva5912: are you the one with the Aspire One?
[15:00] <dva5912> yes but ive read that this thing can get up to 1480
[15:00] <dva5912> no dell latitude  d610
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> tw3ak: you could use the --force-all   option in dpkg. there may be a better way
[15:00] <dva5912> mhall119: ^
[15:00] <mhall119> in that case you may need to edit xorg.conf with the specific modeline if it's not being autodetected
[15:00] <riot> hey there.
[15:00] <bananamuffin> i am the one with the aspire one
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> tw3ak: you could always, sudo dpkg -rP <name>; sudo dpkg -i ./<deb file>; sudo apt-get -f install
[15:00] <[blackb]> salve
[15:01] <mhall119> it may be that it is capable of 1480, but the hardware doesn't advertise that fact
[15:01] <riot> is there a good howto "install ubuntu on multiple machines at once - conveniently"?
[15:01] <ubuntuyo_> I love a UBUNTU..
[15:01] <mhall119> riot: use multiple CDs?
[15:01] <dva5912> mhall119: i thought their was a graphical way of changing it? i remember doing it to my desktop and about broke it
[15:01] <mhall119> dva5912: there might be, but not in the default install
[15:01] <ubuntuyo_> How many people use the Ubuntu of the world?
[15:02] <mhall119> some cards come with their own configuration programs, like nvidia
[15:02] <bananamuffin> i switch to OSS mixer for my sound and it somewhat works i  just get a buzzing noisse tho
[15:02] <dva5912> looks like im editing xorg then
[15:02] <riot> mhall119: not convenient ;) i want those several boxes to be all the same. So its stupid to repeat all the same stuff dozens of times.
[15:02] <mhall119> ubuntuyo_: 10,587,892.3
[15:02] <ubuntuyo_> wow
[15:02] <mhall119> riot: t
[15:02] <ubuntuyo_> I'm using a ubuntu in Korea. korea web is suck..
[15:03] <mhall119> ubuntuyo_: I just made that number up
[15:03] <tw3ak> Action I want to build and test new kernels I started with old config  changed the cpu to pentium4 and made sure my ethernet card was good and saved and exited. that way I knew it would work I installed as deb  now I want to get nasty and really trim down if I install the new deb would this cause a problem?
[15:03] <mhall119> ubuntuyo_: nobody knows how many there are
[15:03] <ubuntuyo_> too many active - x in here.
[15:03] <bananamuffin> ?
[15:03] <mhall119> riot:  are the boxes all identical hardware?
[15:03] <dva5912> um wow. im into the xorg config file but their is NOTHING about screen resolutions
[15:03] <dva5912> that might be the problem
[15:03] <jamiewan> Ubuntuyo: Many
[15:03] <riot> mhall119: yep.
[15:03] <riot> mhall119: all ibm thinkpads with network.
[15:03] <mhall119> dva5912: not anymore, it's all auto-detected on startup these days
[15:03] <ubuntuyo_> thanks
[15:04] <mhall119> but you can still add them in
[15:04] <jerroome> hello, does anyone know the difference between the gnome-terminal and the normal terminal ?
[15:04] <mhall119> riot:  you can install on one then dd the disk image to all the others
[15:04] <dva5912> mhall119: i must still be in the 6.06 mind state then
[15:04] <riot> mhall119: hmm, not a bad idea :)
[15:04] <mhall119> there's other tools, like ghost, that work better than dd, but I don't recall the names
[15:04] <dva5912> lol i still got the 6.06 cd too
[15:04] <bananamuffin> so what do i do if my sound isnt worker after switching to the (oss mixer )
[15:04] <ubuntuyo_> I love a Blender 3d too..
[15:04] <mhall119> bananamuffin: try ESD and Pulse
[15:04] <riot> mhall119: there's no easy way to use pxe or something alike?
[15:05] <ubuntuyo_> kill the pulsaudio.
[15:05] <ubuntuyo_> why don't you kill the pulsaudio on system.
[15:05] <n0gearII> which log tells me what username and pwd someone tried when trying to log into SSH?
[15:05] <mhall119> bananamuffin: also, check the volume level, I spent  an hour once troubleshooting a sound card before I realized the volume on th speakers was turned down
[15:05] <mhall119> riot: pxe is never the easy way
[15:05] <mhall119> riot: you could use pxe to load the installer, but I don't know of anything pre-built to do that for you
[15:06] <sipior> n0gearII: /var/log/auth.log. won't show the password, though.
[15:06] <Roland123> How to twinview with 2 or more computers? setup would look something like this: main pc with a large monitor + 1-2 laptops. I'd like to be able to drag a window to the right of the screen and it shall pop up on one of the laptops. Is this possible?
[15:06] <ubuntuyo_> aleady 11pm. goodbye all.
[15:06] <mhall119> Roland123: it should be plug-and-play these days
[15:06] <n0gearII> sipior: yep i checked that all ready
[15:06] <bananamuffin> i get a buzzing sound with all the different types and ESD isnt in there
[15:06] <Innxis> Hello! I have a 5g (2005) classic iPod and I used my netbook (with Windows) to sync music on it till now but for particular reason I switched to linux on it as well. The problem is that when I plug the iPod into my machine nothing happens. No iPod icon on desktop. Can someone help me with this please?
[15:06] <mhall119> oh wait, across different boxes?
[15:07] <Roland123> mhall119: yes different boxes
[15:07] <Innxis> This happens with my station as well...
[15:07] <mhall119> Roland123: no way to do that right now
[15:07] <mhall119> Roland123: the best you can get is xmove, which lets you send a window to a different box
[15:07] <mhall119> but I've never played with that
[15:07] <sipior> n0gearII: if you're looking for an earlier login, check the gzipped versions of the file in the same directory.
[15:07] <mhall119> I created a Brainstorm idea to do what you want though
[15:07] <dva5912> this thing has an ATI in it. but no drivers are being used. should i install some drivers and see if it gets higher res?
[15:08] <mhall119> dva5912: if you get a desktop, there are drivers being used
[15:08] <hoellp> Roland123, try (quick)synergy, that allows you to use one kb/mouse on every pc connected
[15:08] <hoellp> Roland123, you can't drag windows over though
[15:08] <mhall119> Roland123: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/19514/ vote it up if you like it
[15:09] <nameless`> hi
[15:09] <dva5912> so how do i specify new resolutions mhall119
[15:09] <nameless`> i've got an NTFS partition on my external HD, i can mount it but gparted doesn't see that partition
[15:09] <Asad-away> I installed firefox 3.5 from an PPA repo and the fonts don't seem to render correctly as in FF 3.0.11 ... I think ubunut-specific font rendering settings aren't applied?
[15:10] <mhall119> dva5912: google Xorg modlines
[15:10] <mhall119> you'll need to scan your hardware to see what settings you can use
[15:10] <hoellp> dva5912, the resolution is (mostly) a problem of monitor settings
[15:11] <hoellp> dva5912, you can still specify the specs in xorg.conf if you have a CRT
[15:11] <Roland123> mhall119: but is it possible to connect to one of the available virtual desktops?
[15:11] <mhall119> dva5912: where did you read that it can go up to 1480?  Perhaps it meant with an external monitor, the video card can produce that, but the built-in screen may not
[15:11] <dva5912> hoellp,mhall119 the way that i was supposed to get hier res was through xsga i think thats what it was.
[15:11] <mhall119> Roland123: xmove is an X11 server that lets you move windows from one host to another
[15:12] <mhall119> that's about the best that is available right now
[15:12] <hoellp> dva5912, what kind of machine do you have?
[15:12] <mhall119> typically a window spends it's whole live on the X display it started on
[15:12] <dva5912> hoellp: notebook
[15:12] <hoellp> dva5912, and you don't get the native resolution on the builtin screen?
[15:13] <dva5912> acording to dell the native is teh 1024 but i want a bigger res. Im used to that.
[15:13] <dva5912> hoellp: ^
[15:13] <hoellp> dva5912, that won't do you much good on an lcd
[15:14] <Axz> Hi there guys whats best way to mount a encrypted harddrive
[15:14] <mhall119> dva5912: the LCD probably only does 1024x800
[15:14] <sadfa> hey guys
[15:14] <sadfa> can i get someones help?
[15:14] <mhall119> Axz: what encryption?
[15:14] <dva5912> mhall119: but what about the reports of the 4*** resolutions through that thing
[15:14] <mhall119> sadfa: ask and ye might recieve
[15:15] <hoellp> dva5912, check xrandr in the terminal to see which resolutions are supported
[15:15] <Axz> mhall119, dunnp i encrypted it on installation of OpenSuse 11.1
[15:15] <Z-bob> sadfa, just throw out your question.
[15:15] <mhall119> dva5912: like I said, the video card might be capable of that if connected to an external monitor
[15:15] <hoellp> dva5912, that's the capabilities of the graphics card and is for an external monitor...
[15:15] <mhall119> Axz: you might try the OpenSuse people then, I don't know what they do for encrypted disks
[15:16] <Myrtti> sadfa: use |tee
[15:17] <Z-bob> |tee
[15:18] <ftw> !uptrack
[15:18] <Fenix|work> Greetings and salutations!
[15:18] <dva5912> I guess il have to just deal with this :( better than nothing i suppose
[15:19] <dva5912> http://cgi.ebay.ca/DELL-Latitude-D610-Laptop-PM-1-73Gh-1G-DVDRW-160G-WiFi_W0QQitemZ120431646114QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLaptops_Nov05?hash=item1c0a4915a2&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A7|66%3A2|39%3A1|240%3A1307|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50 thats the one i got and i paind 237 with free shipping
[15:19] <dva5912> and two gig ram
[15:19] <ftw> Is there any downside to using this new ksplice uptrack software that allows for rebootless kernel upgrades?
[15:19] <bananamuffin> all i get under each setting of sound is a buzzing noise following that sound.
[15:19] <Myrtti> sadfa: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace
[15:20] <dva5912> ok so lets have some fun.,\ Using the IR port on this thing is it possible to like turn of and on my rv?
[15:20] <dva5912> tv*
[15:20] <sadfa> Myrtti: i want to do some other things in gdb
[15:24] <saiasaka> hello
[15:24] <saiasaka> do you know how install flash for xubuntu 9.04 ?
[15:25] <dva5912> through ad.remove programs?
[15:25] <gggg> saiasaka, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[15:25] <cyberghoser1> !flash saiasaka
[15:25] <dva5912> !flash
[15:25] <dva5912> !flash | saiasaka
[15:25] <cyberghoser1> wow wrong comment kicks me out :p
[15:26] <Kartagis> !karmic
[15:27] <wizz> How can i remote desktop control my friend's desktop without asking my friend to port forward and check her external IP?
[15:27] <dva5912> Do i have to install the full fleged apache server? I need php but im doing a local programing
[15:28] <wizz> by using terminal server client
[15:28] <mhall119> wizz: there is a way to put VNC into "listen" mode on your end, then have a server on his end contact you
[15:28] <wizz> dva5912: why dont u use lampp?
[15:29] <mhall119> dva5912: php5-cli?
[15:29] <wizz> mhall119:she is using msn.
[15:30] <wizz> can terminal server client get the ip from msn server or i have to check it?
[15:30] <mhall119> wizz: is she on Ubuntu?
[15:30] <{g}> Hey People! I installed Ubuntu 9 and there seems to be no OpenOffice base anymore. What happened to it?
[15:30] <wizz> mhall119: she is using vista with msn now
[15:30] <mhall119> dva5912: apt-get install php5-cli will give you PHP without Apache
[15:31] <mhall119> wizz: oh, then I know of no easy way
[15:31] <rudolf> helo
[15:31] <rudolf> I need help.....
[15:31] <wizz> G: really? i also install , did you checked applications office there ...
[15:31] <stroyan> ftw: ksplice looks interesting. But I am pessimistic about it handling _all_ kernel updates.  If a patch fixes hardware state then it is a huge task to make a ksplice update that transitions to a good state.
[15:31] <mhall119> rudolf: we're here to help
[15:31] <{g}> wizz: where?
[15:31] <mhall119> convenient, huh?
[15:32] <rudolf> Im using Ubuntu 9.04. but I cant get the sound out of my altec lansing speaker...
[15:32] <wizz> mhall119: how? haha , please tell me!
[15:32] <ftw> stroyan: It seemed a little too good to be true. I think I'll hold off of ksplice.
[15:32] <mhall119> wizz: I don't know much about vista, sorry
[15:32] <Roland123> rudolf: check this out.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7509104
[15:33] <stroyan> ftw: And, you won't really know that a new kernel and other updated files will actually boot until you boot from it. Sometimes bad news is better served fresh. ;-)
[15:33] <mhall119> wizz: you can turn on remote desktop, but she'll have to enable port forwarding if she's behind a firewall
[15:33] <rudolf> ok,my laptop is compaq,using AMD turion 64,ATI,and Altec Lansing speaker...but,I'm totally sad it cant load any sound...huhuhuh...
[15:34] <rudolf> ok
[15:34] <rudolf> I've seen the website already
[15:34] <mhall119> I don't think Remote Desktop can do that with uPnP
[15:34] <mhall119> rudolf: System->Preferences->Sound, try changing the playback device
[15:34] <rudolf>  i post my problem there ok
[15:34] <mhall119> sometimes one works when another doesn't
[15:34] <rudolf> ok.wait a.
[15:36] <wizz> mhall119: i teach her one hour to port forward and find her external ip , still she didnt get it ...... i think i have to open a xp virtual box to use window live messenger's remote desktop , anyway , thanks for u guys1
[15:36] <rudolf> ok,when im using the headphone,it produce the sound....only the main speaker doesnt.
[15:36] <mhall119> wizz: have you tried amsn?
[15:36] <dva5912> mhall119: ok so with that installed what bout mysql? that doesnt need apache does it?
[15:37] <mhall119> dva5912: nope
[15:37] <wizz> mhall119: tried b4 but too many things bugging me , so i uninstall already , ok  , i will try. thanks
[15:38] <mhall119> apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client php5-mysql
[15:38] <rkitect> I am having problems mounting an LV from my VG, says the file system must be specified, but specifying the filesystem I thought it was is not helping.  Any way to check what the filesystem is on an LV?
[15:38] <rkitect> dealing with an LVM structure, btw
[15:39] <rudolf> any suggestion?
[15:40] <mhall119> rudolf: check the volume controls
[15:40] <rudolf> i've put it all to max
[15:40] <mhall119> headphones and speakers have different volume controls
[15:41] <dva5912> mhall119: so with that installed i can make my programing anywere right?
[15:41] <mhall119> check the volume on each, and try changing mixers
[15:41] <mhall119> yup
[15:41] <rudolf> ok
[15:41] <rudolf> I try
[15:41] <Axz> mhall119, is there software that can mount encrypted partitions or harddrives
[15:42] <mhall119> Axz: yes, but you'll need to find out how it's encrypted to know what to use
[15:42] <stroyan> rkitect: You could use vol_id:     "sudo /sbin/vol_id /dev/vg1/lv1"
[15:42] <Axz> mhall119, i guess default encryption
[15:43] <mhall119> default?
[15:44] <rkitect> stroyan: "unknown or non-unique volume type"
[15:44] <stroyan> rkitect: I expected it would stick the the same story as mount told you ;-)
[15:45] <rkitect> I had this mounted earlier today, any ideas why I would suddenly not be able to mount it or even get any information from the LV?
[15:45] <stroyan> rkitect: It seems that you have the wrong lv or the one you have was damaged somehow.
[15:45] <rkitect> power went out
[15:45] <dva5912> mhall119: so that php5-cli was all i needed?
[15:45] <rkitect> would that damage an LV?
[15:45] <Axz> mhall119, encryption mode is twofish256
[15:46] <mhall119> should be
[15:46] <vick> is xetex available to ubuntu ?
[15:46] <dva5912> mhall119: well just tryed a test document and it wants me to download it
[15:46] <javierAndres> \join #ubuntu-es
[15:46] <stroyan> rkitect: A non-journaled filesystem might be damaged by a power failure.  But I wouldn't expect that to make it unrecognizable.
[15:46] <javierAndres> ubuntu-es???
[15:46] <mhall119> dva5912: what?
[15:47] <stroyan> rkitect: The best way to hurt it like that is to write to the raw volume when you thought you were writing to a file/tape. :-(
[15:47] <dva5912> mhall119: i just tryed to exicute index.php from Firefox and it wants me to download the index.php file
[15:47] <rkitect> stroyan: well, it's suposed to be ext3
[15:47] <rudolf> still...no sound...
[15:47] <rkitect> stroyan: lol, yeah, I would have no reason to be doing that on this system
[15:47] <bieb> !ubuntu-es
[15:47] <rudolf> tried all the options
[15:47] <Torgoton> javierAndres: You want "/join" not "\join"
[15:47] <stroyan> You could let fsck have a try at it.
[15:47] <dva5912> ubuntu-es = ubuntu espanol
[15:48] <mhall119> dva5912: if you want to execute PHP web pages for firefox, you'll need apache and mod_php5
[15:48] <dva5912> mhall119: thats what i was asking berore
[15:48] <mhall119> dva5912: sorry, I thought you wanted to execute php scripts from the command line, not for firefox
[15:48] <dva5912> mhall119: so i will need a full blown apache server
[15:48] <mhall119> dva5912: yup
[15:49] <Torgoton> Hey all, I've just installed xubuntu 8.10 on an old laptop, and the GUI is... unuseful. Consoles work fine though.
[15:49] <dva5912> mhall119: dont worry about it. I just hope that this little laptop wont get boged down too much
[15:49] <Torgoton> Any tips or pointers?
[15:49] <TriMe> Whats Other Channels Are Avaliave in Free Node to do with ubuntu?
[15:49] <stroyan> rkitect: If you don't have current backups, then you should consider saving off an image of the volume before trying to rescue it with fsck.
[15:49] <mhall119> dva5912: apache isn't very heavy
[15:49] <mhall119> TriMe: /msg alis list *ubuntu*
[15:50] <Orion55> hi
[15:50] <rkitect> stroyan: fsck returned ext2 but I'm getting bad superblock and magic number errors :(
[15:50] <dva5912> mhall119: mysql can be
[15:50] <mhall119> Torgoton: try Xubuntu instead
[15:50] <rkitect> man fsck
[15:50] <rkitect> lol
[15:51] <mhall119> dva5912: what about mysql?
[15:51] <rkitect> wrong window :/
[15:51] <johnnys> hello
[15:51] <dva5912> mhall119: mysql can become pretty heavy
[15:51] <Torgoton> mhall119: Are you picking on my lack of capitalization, or did you miss that I did install Xubuntu, or are you suggesting another IRC channel?
[15:52] <mhall119> dva5912: depends on how much data you have
[15:52] <mhall119> Torgoton: sorry, thought you said Ubuntu
[15:52] <mhall119> try fluxbuntu?
[15:52] <dva5912> mhall119: Well anyway, Thanks for the help.
[15:52] <zek152> how do you check what number your serial (RS232) port is?
[15:53] <Torgoton> mhall119: Thanks. I think it's a driver/xorg issue because I can't even see the login prompt, so XFCE hasn't even started.
[15:53] <moncky> Torgoton: what do you mean by unuseful? do you mean it is broken or you dont like it
[15:53] <dva5912> now the next thing i have. I got apache and it all installed but how do i gain access to the apache document root?
[15:53] <w-heat> does anyone know when a firefox 3.5 package will be available?
[15:53] <ftw> w
[15:53] <Torgoton> moncky: It looks to be set to 640x480, and just has some big blue blocky swirls.
[15:54] <mhall119> Torgoton: oh, then yeah, probably bad drivers
[15:54] <mhall119> check the xorg log
[15:54] <Torgoton> To the logs!
[15:54] <mhall119> dva5912: it defaults to /var/www
[15:54] <dva5912> mhall119: i know that but il have no access to that
[15:54] <rudolf> anyway,thx mhall119
[15:54] <dva5912> as in write anyway
[15:55] <moncky> that sounds like  an xorg thing on the face of it
[15:55] <Torgoton> mhall119: Oh! This is after I force the vesa driver. The standard driver just gives me a full-on white screen... like stress-the-LCD kind of white.
[15:55] <stroyan> rkitect: You may get better behavior from fsck by using the option to specify and alternate superblock.  But figuring out where the alternate superblocks are is not as straightforward as I would like.
[15:55] <mhall119> Torgoton: what video card does it have?
[15:56] <rkitect> stroyan: agreed, I think I'm just going to suck it up for now and use another partition to accomplish what I need.
[15:56] <slipttees> h all
[15:56] <rkitect> thanks for the help
[15:56] <dva5912> mhall119: that direcroty is owned by root. How can i become a member of root? or is there a better way to do this?
[15:56] <Torgoton> mhall119: It's a ThinkPad 560E with a... Trident Cyber9660.
[15:56] <mhall119> dva5912: sudo
[15:56] <dva5912> mhall119: i have to keep doing that for every file i do?
[15:57] <Torgoton> dva5912: sudo su
[15:57] <mhall119> dva5912: you can create a new directory and chmod it to your user id
[15:57] <Bash_23> does anyone know how to fix Grub Error 17?
[15:57] <dva5912> Torgoton: im not about to unlock that root
[15:57] <Bash_23> I tried reinstalling ubuntu and tried reinstall grub...
[15:57] <mhall119> mkdir /var/www/test; chown dva5912 /var/www/test
[15:57] <Bash_23> but when i tried to reinstall grub
[15:57] <Bash_23> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[15:57] <Bash_23> Error 15: File not found
[15:57] <dva5912> mhall119: ok il do that thanks for the help
[15:58] <mhall119> replace dva5912 with your actual username
[15:58] <dva5912> I know ;)
[15:58] <mhall119> Torgoton: that's an S3 card?
[15:58] <slipttees> i have problem with squid 2.6.18 ubuntu 8.04.3 server
[15:58] <Rudd-O> hey guys.  if i logoff from my machine, how do i get it to suspend after say, 15 minutes of inactivity WITHOUT anyone logged on
[15:58] <mhall119> dva5912: just make sure your php files are readable by the apache process
[15:58] <slipttees> wont make swap directory /var/cache/squid
[15:59] <Bash_23> Does anyone here know how to fix Grub????!?
[15:59] <Bash_23> error 17
[15:59] <slipttees> !grup | Bash_23
[15:59] <Torgoton> mhall119: No, it's a Trident. There seem to be a lot of issues with many of those chips in Linux.
[15:59] <mhall119> Bash_23: have you asked in #grub?
[15:59] <Rudd-O> Bash_23: boot with a rescue cd, and then run grub-install /dev/sda
[15:59] <slipttees> !grub | Bash_23
[15:59] <Bash_23> kk ill try there
[15:59] <Rudd-O> if i logoff from my machine, how do i get it to suspend after say, 15 minutes of inactivity WITHOUT anyone logged on?
[16:00] <mhall119> Torgoton: yeah, you may be in for a fight on that one
[16:00] <mhall119> Torgoton: have you tried using kernel framebuffer?
[16:00] <Rudd-O> hello?
[16:00] <Neremor> hello! I saw the driver "xserver-xorg-video-intel" beeing updated a few minutes ago and wondered for what it is used. I'm using an ATI-Card; shouldn't the "xserver-xorg-video-ati/radeon/radoenhd" driver been installed?
[16:00] <Torgoton> mhall119: So, I had read that vesa works, but no such luck for me. Haven't tried fb. Got a URL for that handy?
[16:00] <mhall119> Rudd-O: if nobody answers, that usually means nobody here knows
[16:01] <mhall119> Torgoton: nope, but if you dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it should ask if you want to use it or not
[16:02] <tain> hei
[16:02] <tain> :D
[16:02] <tain> ko sepi banget
[16:02] <ShadowEO> 5190
[16:02] <MK13> how do you force an application running in wine to close?
[16:02] <Axz> mhall119, so what application or waydo you recommand to mount the partition?
[16:02] <mhall119> Torgoton: I think the  xorg.conf option is "UseFBDev"
[16:02] <Torgoton> mhall119: Thanks. Trying. (And the Xorg log file is verbose. oeyh)
[16:02] <mhall119> Axz: sorry, I don't know much about disk encryption
[16:02] <cyberghoser1> Axz, i usually force close wine
[16:02] <slipttees> i have MacPro, have 2 hdd, first hdd i have Mac OS X guid partition, secound hdd, i have windows vista+ubuntu, grub don't add line Mac OS X in bootloader
[16:02] <mhall119> Axz: have you tried the OpenSuse channels or forums?
[16:03] <Axz> cyberghoser1, what do you mean?
[16:03] <cyberghoser1> wrong
[16:03] <MK13> cyberghoser1, i guess you were talking to me
[16:03] <cyberghoser1> Axz, wrong name sorry :P
[16:03] <cyberghoser1> MK13, yes
[16:03] <cyberghoser1> too lazy
[16:03] <nukedclx> where i can find vnc configuration in ubuntu?
[16:03] <slipttees> ubuntu grub don't load darwin
[16:03] <Kristof_D> MK13: for any application, just press alt+f2 and typ xkill, then click the window, although you'll probably close wine when you try that on a wine app
[16:04] <Bash_23> No is is active one the grub channel :(
[16:04] <mhall119> nukedclx: server or client?
[16:04] <nukedclx> server
[16:04] <slipttees> !grub > Bash_23
[16:04] <nukedclx> is there a problem
[16:04] <slipttees> !grub
[16:05] <nukedclx> that vnc reads my inputs but dont show any visual effect ;o
[16:05] <nukedclx> just screen when i connected
[16:05] <mhall119> nukedclx: vino or some other server?
[16:05] <nukedclx> vnc
[16:05] <nukedclx> my friend said "i run builtin remote desktop sharing"
[16:06] <bastidrazor> nukedclx, system>preferences>remote desktop has some settings
[16:06] <mdg> hi
[16:06] <nukedclx> i figured out its vnc
[16:06] <nukedclx> i have only ssh access
[16:06] <metalsilo> aw i just missed him
[16:06] <nukedclx> looking in /etc but so confused
[16:06] <fastputty> hello i am trying to run cron in a specify path.. is it posisble?
[16:06] <slipttees> hi, can help me with squid
[16:07] <fastputty> for example i want the execute php myscript.php in /var/www/ every 5 minute
[16:07] <mhall119> nukedclx: are you using compiz on the host?
[16:07] <mhall119> nukedclx: are you starting the vnc server from the command line?
[16:07] <nukedclx> hes started vnc
[16:07] <mhall119> fastputty: you can have it execute any file
[16:07] <mbeierl> Maybe someone can answer this: There's xnest and XDCMP to start a completely new session remotely, or vino/vinagre/vnc for taking over an existing local session, but is there anything like windows Terminal Services which allows you to start a new session and "disconnect" so that it stays running in the background?  Like XDCMP with nohup somehow?
[16:07] <nukedclx> i think he done that by gui or something
[16:07] <nukedclx> hes a bit newb
[16:08] <nukedclx> ;/
[16:08] <mhall119> nukedclx: ah, have him try disabling compiz if it's running
[16:08] <nukedclx> ok
[16:08] <fastputty> mhall119: how to make that command : "php myscrip.php" to be execute in /var/www/ ?
[16:08] <metalsilo> dva5912: Do you have that project done for me?
[16:08] <nukedclx> mivus     3526  0.0  0.0   1872   496 ?        Ss   14:42   0:00 /bin/sh -c /usr/bin/compiz-decorator
[16:08] <nukedclx> mivus     3527  0.0  0.0   1872   532 ?        S    14:42   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/compiz-decorator
[16:08] <mhall119> mbeierl: vncserver can do that
[16:08] <nukedclx> ofcourse
[16:08] <nukedclx> i dont like compiz
[16:08] <nukedclx> just kill em?
[16:08] <mhall119> no
[16:08] <mdg> hi
[16:08] <dva5912> metalsilo: I am currently in the process of getting set up. the ETA is still active.
[16:09] <mbeierl> mhall119: for multiple users or for a specific X session?
[16:09] <mhall119> nukedclx: metacity --replace
[16:09] <mhall119> mbeierl: you can start a new X display for the VNC session, and keep it going after you disconnect
[16:09] <nukedclx> mhall119,
[16:09] <nukedclx> No protocol specified
[16:09] <nukedclx> Błąd menedżera okien: Unable to open X display :0.0
[16:10] <mhall119> nukedclx: he'll need to do that
[16:10] <metalsilo> dva5912: You know the rules. And i dont think you will have it done by the end of the week. You dont get paid until its finished on a disk in my hands
[16:10] <mhall119> or you can try: DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace
[16:10] <nukedclx> i set DISPPLAY to :0.0
[16:10] <nukedclx> oh
[16:10] <fastputty> someone could tell me how to execute in the cron "php /var/www/myscript.php" in the folder /test/ ?
[16:10] <mbeierl> mhall119: googling vncserver now... don't recall this quite being as straightforward as that... thanks!
[16:10] <nukedclx> same err
[16:10] <slinq> fastputty: add /usr/bin/php /var/www/myscript.php
[16:11] <dva5912> metalsilo: Dont remind me. Im working on it ok?!
[16:11] <mhall119> mbeierl: if you want the session accessible from teh console, it's not as straight forward
[16:11] <nukedclx> eh, and now hes gone
[16:11] <mhall119> nukedclx: I think you'll have to get him to disable compiz
[16:11] <nukedclx> but thanks, i have now a point
[16:11] <fastputty> slinq: it wont be execute in /test/ folder
[16:11] <nukedclx> whats wrong
[16:11] <acidstorm> can anyone help me pls i cant type a pipe sigen sorry for my bad english
[16:12] <slinq> fastputty: you mean you want to change the working directory?
[16:12] <mbeierl> mhall119: no I'm thinking like what tsm for windows does where you have a client that does the initial connect and you get a "login" screen or resume your current session
[16:12] <marcelo> HI. I cant get .mov to play images... i installed libquicktime* but it didnt work. Any one experienced this problem?
[16:12] <fastputty> sling: changing where it will be executed
[16:12] <ryanprior> I installed Ubuntu 8.10 on a new partition, but now Grub doesn't show my Ubuntu 9.04 install. How can I add 9.04 as an option to my Grub menu?
[16:12] <mhall119> nukedclx: VNC uses the XDamage extension to only send changed portions of the screen across, but compiz doesn't work that way, it doesn't damage screen regions, so the default vnc setup wouldn't know to redraw anything
[16:12] <slinq> fastputty: that's called the working directory
[16:12] <slinq> fastputty: http://uk2.php.net/manual/en/function.chdir.php
[16:12] <fastputty> slinq : OK ;P
[16:13] <mhall119> mbeierl: Xvnc is an X extension that shares the default display over VNC
[16:13] <fastputty> slinq: we cannot specify it in crontab??
[16:13] <mbeierl> mhall119: I see - that's what I thought for the vnc server: it's started as the specific user and waits for that user to connect, not as arbitrary user
[16:14] <mhall119> fastputty: you'll need to have cron execute: cd /test; php /var/www/myscript.php
[16:14] <Machtin> i accidentaly removed the folder view in which you can enter subfolders.. i tried to add another one.. but if i click a folder there it opens dolphin, instead of opening the folder in the folder view.
[16:14] <fastputty> mhall119: thanks you!
[16:14] <Machtin> how can i get that back?
[16:15] <bastidrazor> Machtin, #kubuntu may have better answers
[16:15] <mbeierl> mhall119: but, there again, it's the default console, not a remote session that can be used at the same time as others.  Say I want user1 and user2 to both be able to log in remotely and disconnect/resume sessions independently.  To make it more complicated, user1 and user2 can be any arbitrary user on the system
[16:15] <|newbie|> ciao
[16:16] <mhall119> mbeierl: I'm not entirely sure how to do that with VNC
[16:16] <Machtin> bastidrazor: word, thanks.
[16:17] <mbeierl> mhall119: that's just it - I cannot actually find a suitable replacement for Microsoft's terminal service manager under linux and I am really baffled that Microsoft can make their OS more multi-user usable than the Linux community can.  I'm actually stumped here
[16:17] <mhall119> mbeierl: XDMCP can probably do what you want
[16:18] <mbeierl> mhall119: close, but if the connection drops, XDMCP completely closes the session - hard
[16:18] <mhall119> also, VNC is not a terminal server
[16:18] <mbeierl> mhall119: that's why I started the question the way I did.
[16:19] <baba_b00ie> mhall119, multi-user, and microsoft don't belong in the same sentence or paragraph
[16:19] <slinq> terminal sever is actually an excellent piece of software
[16:19] <MoltenBobcat> baba_b00ie: that's a rediculous statement terminal services is amazing
[16:19] <MoltenBobcat> provided you can afford it
[16:19] <mhall119> mbeierl: have you seen http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/xvnc/ ?
[16:20] <acidstorm> can anyone tell me why i can type pipe ?
[16:20] <baba_b00ie> MoltenBobcat, ms-ts is good.. i'm more refrerring to the O/S design level.
[16:20] <mbeierl> baba_b00ie: it was me, not mhall119 who said MS and multi user was better under Windows Terminal Services than anything I have yet to find under Linux.  If you can refute that I would be so very happy.  It's a sad admission for me right now
[16:21] <mezquitale> anybody knows how to setup custom SSH keys on freenx server and client???
[16:21] <mbeierl> mhall119: looking at it now...
[16:21] <baba_b00ie> although vista, and the 2k3/2k8 servers have greatly improved since NT 3x-4x
[16:21] <nukedclx> where ubuntu normally looking for firmwares when loading a module?
[16:21] <MoltenBobcat> baba_b00ie: yeah they are getting better my major beefs revolve around CALS and pricing
[16:22] <MoltenBobcat> Unfortuantely we are a a microsoft shop
[16:22] <acidstorm> can anyone tell me why i cant type pipe character ?
[16:22] <baba_b00ie> MoltenBobcat, you said that right brother ;)
[16:22] <Pici> acidstorm: How are you trying to type it?
[16:22] <baba_b00ie> acidstorm, type a pipe where? on irc, cli ?
[16:22] <MoltenBobcat> I try to use linux wherever possible though to save some $$ mostly and add stability
[16:22] <unix3> Hey guys, Iam trying to run sftp... with "connect to server" under Places... however its displaying a message it needs to unlock the default keyring... and asks for a password..?
[16:22] <Kristof_D> acidstorm: maybe the keyboard layout changed? Try to type an "m" or something
[16:22] <unix3> what password would it be asking me?
[16:23] <mhall119> mbeierl: I'm not sure if you can make that setup keep a session alive after a disconnect and have the user re-connect to it again later
[16:23] <unix3> i tried my user password no success
[16:23] <MoltenBobcat> unix3: you should of set it when you first setup yoru machine
[16:23] <Pici> !who
[16:23] <acidstorm> i cant type a pipe character everywhere
[16:23] <mbeierl> mhall119: Wow.  That might do it, but it's not going to be easy to streamline the client connection process :(
[16:23] <unix3> MoltenBobcat, hmm.. ill ask the admin for a keyring password.. ? is that the name?
[16:24] <unix3> os that what the installer originally prompted for?
[16:24] <mhall119> unix3: you were probably asked for a keyring password the first time it needed to access it
[16:24] <acidstorm> and i cant type another special characters
[16:24] <baba_b00ie> acidstorm, check your keyboard layout, check to see if you have shift, caps or ctrl, alt keys are stuck on kb.
[16:24] <ryanprior> I installed Ubuntu 8.10 on a new partition, but now Grub doesn't show my Ubuntu 9.04 install. How can I add 9.04 as an option to my Grub menu?
[16:25] <acidstorm> sorry iḿ a newbie in ubuntu and english ^^ what u mean with kb what is that ?
[16:25] <MoltenBobcat> unix3: yeah. that woudl be th right person to ask
[16:26] <mezquitale> ryanprior,  go into the partition where you have 9.04 and copy  the settings for 9.04 that you find in the file /boot/grub/menu.lst and copy those settings to the "menu.lst" on the 8.04 partition
[16:26] <Pici> acidstorm: What is your native language? We have many international channels here.
[16:26] <eirik__> Hi, I am having problems with my sound. Pulseaudio volume control displays that there is something happening I just can't hear anything. The device is a built in ATI IXP AC97. Any hints or tips?
[16:26] <acidstorm> german
[16:26] <ryanprior> !de | acidstorm
[16:27] <acidstorm> thx !!!
[16:27] <ryanprior> I don't really like our international channel messages, they're kinda condescending. >.>
[16:28] <mbeierl> ryanprior: agreed - they do sound a little "get out of here"
[16:28] <Pici> ryanprior: suggest new ones to the bot then. /msg ubottu usage  for the syntax
[16:28] <Rudd-O> hey guys, how do i get an ubuntu to suspend after a while of inactivity, if no one is logged on
[16:29] <OsamaK_> when will firefox 3.5 be available through update?
[16:29] <nukedclx> mhall119, finally hes back and switch it off and now its working, thanks!
[16:30] <sipior> OsamaK_: october.
[16:30] <mhall119> OsamaK_: maybe in backports
[16:30] <mbeierl> Rudd-O: in gnome, there's the gnome power preferences which allows suspend after inactivity --- oh wait.  You said "if no one is logged on".  Tougher.  Don't know
[16:30] <mhall119> nukedclx: cool
[16:30] <eirik__> Hi, I am having problems with my sound. Pulseaudio volume control displays that there is something happening I just can't hear anything. The device is a built in ATI IXP AC97. Any hints or tips?
[16:31] <baba_b00ie> any one know how to update pidgin ? i'm running ubuntu 810
[16:31] <OsamaK_> mhall119: sipior: why is this?
[16:31] <ryanprior> Can I mount an ext4 partition as an ext3 partition to get read access?
[16:31] <Cookiechef> hi everyone , i got a question
[16:31] <mbeierl> mhall119: Wait!  I think freenx is what I might be wanting :)
[16:31] <Cookiechef> How can i update my current firefox realeaase "3.0.11" to 3.5
[16:31] <sipior> OsamaK_: they are unlikely to move to a new version of firefox during a stable release cycle. you can always grab it separately, of course.
[16:32] <Cookiechef> I want to keep my Bookmarks and stuff...
[16:32] <mbeierl> mhall119: fyi: http://freenx.berlios.de/
[16:32] <woodong50> wow this is a good oprater system
[16:33] <Thingymebob> Anyone like me jumps in half way through to find out someone's already been told something. A short script here to quickly filter the days log based on a nick so you can quickly scan and see what advice has already been given. http://paste.ubuntu.com/207028/
[16:34] <ice109> can someone help me with a weird question: if i have multiple logins via ssh to a terminal account on a server, can i send messages between each account?
[16:34] <mhall119> mbeierl: thanks, I've heard of it before, but not really familiar
[16:34] <mbeierl> mhall119: or better yet the NoMachine (commercial but with free version) http://www.nomachine.com/select-package.php?os=linux&id=1
[16:34] <MoltenBobcat> ice109: you could use talk
[16:34] <MoltenBobcat> I think that' swhat it was called
[16:34] <jasonlife> I build a my own kernel module, "a.ko" and copied it to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/extra directory..  When I modprobe a, I got "Module a not found".  any idea?
[16:35] <rickest> ice109: 'write'
[16:35] <Dulak> ice109: you can use the write command to send lines from one tty to another
[16:35] <mhall119> insmod maybe?
[16:35] <ice109> the other account isn't using a terminal
[16:35] <ice109> it's using a gui
[16:35] <sipior> jasonlife: have you run depmod?
[16:35] <MoltenBobcat> yeah talk is more of an ongoing chat
[16:35] <jasonlife> mhall119: insmod works.. but I want to make it loaded automatically
[16:35] <jasonlife> sipior: nope
[16:35] <jasonlife> do I need to that?
[16:35] <ice109> is there a way to pop up a msg on the other account?
[16:35] <sipior> jasonlife: do that :-)
[16:36] <jasonlife> just run  depmod?
[16:36] <ice109> and what would i do? write to myself?
[16:36] <sipior> jasonlife: "man depmod"
[16:36] <jasonlife> thax
[16:37] <Dulak> ice109: yes you can write to the same user if you specify the ttyname, but if one user doesn't have a tty it won't work
[16:37] <brandonban6> hey all, I was looking for an app that would allow you to to use hotkeys to insert current date and time, anyone know of such an app?
[16:37] <cube> hey how can i install firefox 3.5 on 8.10?
[16:38] <mezquitale> anyone knows know to use freeNX??? I am trying to configure custom ssh keys and dont know where to put the custom keys created on the client
[16:38] <sipior> cube: grab the binary from mozilla.com
[16:38] <jasonlife> sipior: you rock... thanks..
[16:38] <cube> sipior: yeah got that, and then?
[16:38] <sipior> jasonlife: no trouble
[16:38] <cube> sipior: no package way to do that? like apt?
[16:38] <forces> hi!
[16:38] <ice109> dulak how do i get it to pop in a remote session
[16:38] <cube> i mean i ran ./firefox
[16:38] <forces> how can I install plymouth in ubuntu?
[16:38] <cube> but i want it instaleld
[16:38] <Donnie> Okay
[16:38] <Pici> forces: You cannot.
[16:39] <saliak> hey, i'm getting a bit confused settting up mail on my system.  i see these errors (http://pastebin.com/d5529f3e7) in my mail.err log and am not sure why
[16:39] <sipior> cube: you might look around to see if someone's made a repository for it.
[16:39] <forces> =.=
[16:39] <forces> why??
[16:39] <Donnie> Does anyong know the deal with Wine and mIRC ?
[16:39] <cube> sipior: alright
[16:39] <Pici> forces: Because there is no package for it and it has not been tested as a replacement for usplash. Nor will we be using it in the future.
[16:39] <OsamaK_> Donnie: why the hell do you use mIRC?
[16:39] <Donnie> Cuz I prefer it over xchat?
[16:39] <Dulak> ice109: it's tty to tty, if both sessions are terminals you can send messages back and forth with it.  man write
[16:39] <Donnie> I've been using it since i was 16 :x I like it.
[16:40] <MoltenBobcat> Donnie: have you looked at winehq tos ee if there are any notes on specific things to run
[16:40] <ice109> dulak other account isn't in terminal
[16:40] <Donnie> MoltenBobcat: dude
[16:40] <Donnie> I've looked
[16:40] <Donnie> Like
[16:40] <sipior> saliak: do you not have postfix (or some other MDA) installed?
[16:40] <ice109> i mispoke
[16:40] <Donnie> Everywhere
[16:40] <Dulak> ice109: so it won't work
[16:40] <FloodBot2> Donnie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:40] <Donnie> But the tutorials are confusing
[16:40] <OsamaK_> Donnie: It's a backstep in the way of a free operating system.
[16:40] <Donnie> I don't get them.
[16:40] <ice109> dulak yes i know
[16:40] <eirik__> Hi, I am having problems with my sound. Pulseaudio volume control displays that there is something happening I just can't hear anything. The device is a built in ATI IXP AC97. Any hints or tips?
[16:40] <Zopiac> how do i re-enable the ctrl+alt+backspace in 9.04? its really ticking me off, i use it almost constantly
[16:40] <Donnie> lol wth >_>
[16:40] <sipior> saliak: beg pardon, i meant procmail.
[16:40] <forces> opensuse use plymouth?
[16:41] <Donnie> OsamaK_:  er what is?
[16:41] <Donnie> :/
[16:41] <cube> sipior: is there no simple way to install 3.5?
[16:41] <OsamaK_> Donnie: ?
[16:41] <cube> sipior: just like on windows - you open 3.0, go to update, and it updates
[16:41] <sipior> cube: downloading it from mozilla.com is pretty simple.
[16:41] <cube> sipior: just like on windows - you open 3.0, go to update, and it updates
 Donnie: It's a backstep in the way of a free operating system.
[16:41] <Donnie> Oh mIRC. Er.. BUT I LIKE IT!!!!!! :|
[16:41] <saliak> sipior : yeah, i think so.  there's a fundamental issue here, as i'm not really sure what all these different thigns do (procmail, sendmail, fetchmai, sensible-mda, whatever else might be installed)
[16:41] <sipior> cube: yes, you can get automatic updates, just as in windows.
[16:41] <Donnie> Okay. So no one has any clue? :=/
[16:41] <saliak> sipior : i installed it to see if it'd get rid of this error
[16:41] <jerbear> What's the likelyhood that jaunty will get Firefox 3.5 packages?
[16:42] <cube> sipior: well i cant click "Check for updates" though - its greyed out
[16:42] <OsamaK_> Donnie: the whole point of GNU/Linux is to have a free operating system, by using a non-free software (no matter what) it's a bad thing and it doesn't help us all reach the goal.
[16:42] <sipior> cube: ah well.
[16:42] <cube> sipior: hmm?
[16:42] <doktoreas> which is the mozilla client for mail Im and calendar?
[16:42] <Donnie> zomg nnnnnnnouuuuu
[16:42] <Donnie> but but
[16:42] <Donnie> MIRCCCCCC
[16:42] <Donnie> >=|
[16:42] <FloodBot2> Donnie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:42] <Pici> Donnie: stop.
[16:42] <sipior> saliak: how exactly have you set up your mail system?
[16:42] <MoltenBobcat> who cares if it's not free
[16:42] <doktoreas> I heard about it, but can't recall the name :(
[16:42] <Donnie> Exactly MoltenBobcat
[16:42] <MoltenBobcat> he likes it
[16:42] <Donnie> >_>
[16:42] <saliak> sipior : i'm trying to install RT on this system and would like it to send/recieve email from the gmail servers for my domail.  i got the incoming email to work using fetchmail
[16:42] <Donnie> I'm a she >.>
[16:42] <Pici> forces: This isn't OpenSuse, this is Ubuntu.
[16:42] <MoltenBobcat> shelikes it
[16:43] <brandonban6> anyone know how to write a shell script that when called inserts the date and time in whatever application you are working in?
[16:43] <Dulak> No way, it's the internet, where guys are guys, girls are guys, and underage girls are fbi.
[16:43] <sipior> saliak: RT?
[16:43] <moncky> Donnie: you may be askin in the wrong place, try #wine or if mIRC has a user forum try their
[16:43] <OsamaK_> Donnie: I gave up programming language I have been working on for years in sake of freedom. It's not a stupid "mIRC" :)
[16:43] <Donnie> rofl @ Dulak
[16:43] <forces> I know, but I want a splash like opensuse
[16:43] <cube> Dulak: hahaha
[16:43] <saliak> sipior : so, honestly, i'm not sure.  i know i have fetchmail configured so when it runs, it successfully pulls down new emails from my gmail pop box and passes them to rt-mailgate to add them to the database
[16:43] <forces> so, if opensuse use plymouth I need to install plymouth
[16:43] <forces> :D
[16:43] <saliak> sipior : RT = RequestTracker
[16:43] <MoltenBobcat> OsamaK_: that's great but you shouldn't expect everyone to adopt the same ideals as you just because they like linux too
[16:44] <ice109> dulak basically my friend is loggedo onto my account on another computer and im logged in through ssh
[16:44] <Donnie> I've been kicked from channel wine as it's an "invite channel"
[16:44] <Donnie> :|
[16:44] <Pici> Donnie: The channel name is #winehq
[16:44] <ice109> dulak and i want to send him a msg or something or pop open a file
[16:44] <OsamaK_> MoltenBobcat: I just remain them.
[16:44] <Donnie> OsamaK_: don't call mIRC stewpid :x
[16:44] <jiffe> is there a way to execute something as a remote command via ssh where the command has a $ in it?  I'm trying to pipe something through awk '{print $1}' and this doesn't appear to work through an ssh remote command
[16:44] <cube> Donnie: are you ok?
[16:44] <Donnie> oh Pici ty.
[16:44] <OsamaK_> MoltenBobcat: *remind
[16:44] <Pici> forces: You're welcome to try to install it yourself, but there is no package for it.  Theres also a high probability that this will break your install.
[16:44] <saliak> sipior : but whenever i comment or RT tires to send email out, it seems like it collects in /var/spool/mqueue
[16:45] <Zopiac> how do i re-enable the ctrl+alt+backspace in 9.04?
[16:45] <jiffe> I've tried escaping with \ with no luck
[16:45] <erUSUL> !dontzap | Zopiac
[16:45] <forces> :O
[16:45] <Dulak> ice109: you can't afaik, X uses a token so users can't cross sessions
[16:45] <sipior> saliak: i see. you'll need a Mail Transfer Agent (like postfix) to send outgoing mail.
[16:45] <forces> karmic will come with plymouth?
[16:45] <OsamaK_> Donnie: It's too restricted, too useless, you gave your rights in seek of a program? no thanks.
[16:45] <Donnie> lol is it....
[16:45] <Donnie> =/ i find it so much more easier to use than xchat.
[16:46] <cratylus> a question i'm sure lots have asked. tried googling for it without much answer. is firefox 3.5 coming to current ubuntus? (like jaunty )
[16:46] <brandonban6> anyone know how to write a shell script that when called inserts the date and time in whatever application you are working in?
[16:46] <OsamaK_> Donnie: then learn, it won't take you more than 15 minutes to figure about the basis.
[16:46] <Zopiac> erUSUL: it didn't work...
[16:46] <spowers> brandonban6: perhaps xmacrokeys-play from the xmacro plugin
[16:46] <sipior> saliak: normally, fetchmail grabs the remote mail, and sends it to the MTA on the local system (postfix or sendmail or qmail &cet.) postfix then can deliver that mail directly to a mailbox, or use an intermediary like procmail to do the delivery.
[16:47] <spowers> brandonban6: perhaps xmacrokeys-play from the xmacro package
[16:47] <ice109> dulak any ideas then
[16:47] <confounds> Anyone know why a "command not found" would show up when calling logrotate?
[16:47] <ice109> ?
[16:47] <confounds> i tried from a regular user & from sudo
[16:47] <mbeierl> all: from my question earlier.  I get to take back what I said about MS Terminal Services being better than competing Linux technologies.  NoMachine's NX Server and Client provide the same functionality - free of charge!  Now to convince the powers that be to include them in the partner or restricted repositories somehow so that Ubuntu in general can be seen as a viable replacement for MSTS.
[16:47] <Donnie> OsamaK_:  er i HAVE learned. but i don't like the look of it :x
[16:47] <OsamaK_> Donnie: try other IRC programs.
[16:47] <spowers> mbeierl: nomachine.com has debs that work
[16:48] <sinan> how can i close an established connection from the terminal?
[16:48] <spowers> mbeierl: they're quite good
[16:48] <spowers> mbeierl: also look into freenx
[16:48] <Donnie> :| none of them'll let me use colorrr >=|
[16:48] <MoltenBobcat> mbeierl: nice! thanks for sharing
[16:48] <saliak> sipior : interesting.  so in my fetchmailrc file (that i use when i run fetchmail) it says "mda "/usr/bin/rt-mailgate --queue General .... (some more rt related stuff)".  so does that mean that it's using that script as the MDA when it gets mail?
[16:48] <spowers> i love the nx system for working from home
[16:48] <spowers> best ever
[16:48] <OsamaK_> Donnie: then file a bug. (a 'withlist')
[16:48] <sipior> saliak: yep
[16:49] <mbeierl> spowers: yes, I'm using them right now, but the point was to see if Canonical could enter into agreement to make one-stop shopping for the NX clients.  And freeNX is a little too far behind - you cannot do disconnect/resume yet
[16:49] <sipior> saliak: have a look here for a boatload of information: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Mail-Administrator-HOWTO.html
[16:49] <Donnie> and that'll take till i'm 20 to process 8-)
[16:49] <Linuwb> Can someone do a quick favour for me?
[16:49] <saliak> sipior : so are these errors from when it's trying to send mail (and that's all the stuff that's sitting in the outgoign queue?)
[16:49] <planegenius1> hey guys im trying to install firefox 3.5 i found and used all the right commands and it says its installed but when i launch ff its stil 3.0.1
[16:49] <spowers> mbeierl: oh, i really like disconnect/resume.  and i think the onus is on nomachine.com to start the partner process
[16:50] <OsamaK_> planegenius1: go to mozilla.org
[16:50] <mbeierl> Linuwb: I've learned not to say yes until I hear the question ;)
[16:50] <mezquitale> anyone knows how to setup an ssh server so that it is accessible remotely through a cable modem and router?
[16:50] <Linuwb> Cans someone tell me the correct code to chmod the file in usr/home/myusername/.drmc
[16:50] <OsamaK_> planegenius1: it won't be available through update.
[16:50] <jrib> Linuwb: just delete it
[16:50] <sipior> saliak: no, looks like something is trying to invoke the "sensible-mda" script to deliver mail locally, but it can't find procmail and the others cited.
[16:50] <mezquitale> chmod user:user  .drmc
[16:50] <Dulak> ice109: is he in kde or gnome?
[16:51] <cratylus> confounds: did you try /usr/sbin/logrotate ? is it in your PATH ?
[16:51] <saliak> sipior - how do i figure out what's trying to invoke sensible-mda?
[16:51] <OsamaK_> planegenius1: software are only updated when there is a security bug.
[16:51] <confounds> cratylus: i'll check on that.... thanks
[16:51] <mbeierl> Linuwb: mine is set to 600.  Is that what you want to know?
[16:52] <sipior> saliak: i would start with the script you have list as the mda in your fetchmailrc.
[16:52] <planegenius1> ok, i just dont get why after i installed it 3.5 it wont run it
[16:52] <rage> Hello, "su" is to "su -", as sudo is to "?????"
[16:52] <Linuwb> Can someone, help me? i need to chmod some files?
[16:52] <Dulak> rage: sudo -i
[16:52] <rage> Dulak: excellent, ta
[16:52] <OsamaK_> planegenius1: Did you close any opened firefox?
[16:52] <fosco__> sorry, many times answered but where can i find info about old releases?
[16:52] <planegenius1> yes
[16:53] <regeya> well, son of a gun, it's right there in the sudo manpage
[16:53] <mbeierl> Linuwb: I'm trying to help you.  I just don't understand your question and I'm trying to get clarification.  What are you trying to do?  just issue chmod 600 .dmrc ?
[16:53] <OsamaK_> planegenius1: including download and add-on windows
[16:53] <confounds> cratylus: i don't have the logrotate command in that directory... but i do have an /etc/logrotate.d/ directory....
[16:53] <planegenius1> OsamaK_: i think so
[16:53] <simmerz> hi. The firefox-3.5 in ubuntu package is beta 4. is that going to get updated to release soon?
[16:53] <Uncle_Meat> Anyone know of a good CPU meter for the GNOME tray
[16:53] <OsamaK_> planegenius1: try "$ killall firefox"
[16:53] <mezquitale> just ignore Linuwb, i already gave him the answer and he keeps asking the same question
[16:54] <Linuwb> sorry didn't see your shout mbeierl, i ned to chmod .dmrc to 644. but i am using an in correct code and don't no the correct one
[16:54] <cratylus> confounds, do you get output when you type: dpkg -s logrotate ?
[16:54] <cratylus> wondering if you have the package
[16:54] <mezquitale> anyone knows how to setup an ssh server so that it is accessible remotely through a cable modem and router?
[16:54] <baba_b00ie> if anyone uses pidgin and has a yahoo account, here's how you update pidign to support the new authentication code... http://www.pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/
[16:54] <mbeierl> Linuwb: ok, so what happens when you do the following: "cd ; chmod 644 .dmrc" ?
[16:54] <mezquitale> baba_b00ie, thanks when I log in to yahoo in the next full moon ill make sure to update pidgin
[16:55] <Linuwb> nothing no report or anything
[16:55] <OsamaK_> planegenius1: ?
[16:55] <confounds> cratylus: good call - "Package `logrotate' is not installed and no info is available." - so i guess it's just calling the files from cron
[16:55] <baba_b00ie> mezquitale, no need to be a el douche,  i was having issues with it.. and thought i'd pass the knowledge on
[16:56] <mbeierl> Linuwb: that means it was successful.  do "ls -al .dmrc" and what does it show?
[16:56] <jerbear> What's the likelyhood that jaunty will get Firefox 3.5 packages?
[16:56] <sillyCEO> Looking for a script that will delete the "localstore.rdf" file from Firefox, everytime it is run.
[16:56] <sipior> jerbear: nil, i suspect.
[16:56] <confounds> cratylus: thanks a lot
[16:56] <lenswipe> hey guys
[16:56] <Linuwb> it shows this -rw-r--r-- 1 tm0 tm0 28 2009-06-24 10:36 .dmrc
[16:56] <sipior> jerbear: officially, of course. i'm sure it will be available in other repositories soon.
[16:56] <raspa> Hi, how can I activate a case sensitive globbing with bash on ubuntu ?
[16:57] <cratylus> confounds, yeah that's what it looked like. i figured it'd be in your path if it were installed. so all you need is to aptitude install it. no prob
[16:57] <lenswipe> anyone know where the games folder for ubuntu can be found?
[16:57] <mbeierl> baba_b00ie: there have been many people asking about problems with Yahoo here, so thanks very much - will be sure to pass it on :)
[16:57] <rickest> sillyCEO: just write a bash script that deletes that file before it launches firefox
[16:57] <sillyCEO> don't know how to do that. Whats a bash script? A text file?
[16:57] <mbeierl> Linuwb: rw-r--r-- is the same as 644.  it worked.  What else might it be that you are trying to do?
[16:58] <sillyCEO> Oops, I mean rickest:, I don't know how to do that. Whats a bash script? A text file?
[16:58] <Linuwb> Thats all, i was messing with wine adn i hit that by accident. many thanks. :)
[16:58] <jerbear> crap
[16:58] <Linuwb> acutally one more thing
[16:58] <rickest> sillyCEO: yeah. you'll also need to associate links (URLS) with that script instead of firefox directly. might help if you have someone around you can ask
[16:58] <Linuwb> were is the firewall settings?
[16:59] <baba_b00ie> mbeierl,  yup.. yahoo upgraded their servers to drop yahoo im 6,7 support to push the newer clients including any 3rd party IM software that uses the older authenication codes..
[16:59] <cb_> I think im a noob..im runnin glinux as the host and windows xp as the guest..i installed guest additions..full screen windows (guest) looks great...but if i run seamless mode...switching between a windows program then back to linux...or moving windows programs/lmenus over my fluxbox linux desktpo, the screen flickers horribly.  Am  I missing something? is this a video issue on the guest side or my host side?  never had any 3d/video issues before on my nix setup .
[16:59] <lenswipe> Linuwb: /etc/sysconfig/iptables
[16:59] <ice109> dulak he's in gnome
[16:59] <mbeierl> Linuwb: in Ubuntu?  you can use "ufw" the Ubuntu FireWall...
[16:59] <sipior> raspa: it's probably on already. confirm that shopt | grep nocaseglob returns "off".
[16:59] <confounds> cratylus: cool - thanks again
[16:59] <lwells> I have an Ubuntu 9.04 disk, how can I tell if it is the 64 bit version??
[16:59] <lenswipe> anyone know where the games folder is on ubuntu?
[17:00] <mbeierl> cb_: are you using VirtualBox or VMware... or?
[17:00] <cb_> i searched google for the problem with eithe rlike +flicker or +flashing.
[17:00] <Pici> sipior: fyi: I just spent a little bit of time asking around about firefox 3.5.  Once we get it built in Ubuntu, it'll need to be tested, but we shouldn't need to wait until Jaunty to see it.
[17:00] <rickest> sillyCEO: something like http://pastebin.com/m11399d0
[17:00] <moncky> lenswipe: in what respect? there is a games menu in the applications menu
[17:00] <sillyCEO> rickest: associate URLS with the script instead of Firefox directly? What do you mean?
[17:00] <Linuwb> Not in command line just in GUI :P my webcam doesn't work with iton i think
[17:00] <Pici> sipior: But of course it won't be available today
[17:00] <identity> MSG does anyone know how to add special characters from non english languages for use in the terminal?
[17:00] <cratylus> lwells lwells, you can boot off of it and execute uname -a in the command line
[17:00] <rickest> sillyCEO: so when you click a link in e-mail, for example, it runs your script instead of firefox
[17:00] <lenswipe> moncky: im looking for the actual folder containing the games in file browser, i need to make some config changes
[17:00] <Buletin> alternative for pidgin more like yahoo messenger with webcam support and voice call ?
[17:00] <lwells> thanks
[17:00] <cb_> virtualbox
[17:00] <sipior> Pici: oh, that's nice. and very different from what i had heard. then again, i suppose they couldn't very well make folks wait so long :-)
[17:00] <cratylus> sure
[17:00] <cb_> mbeierl, virtalbox*
[17:00] <moncky> lenswipe: apt-get install mlocate
[17:00] <cb_> latest ubuntu/vbox
[17:01] <cb_> via fluxbox though
[17:01] <planegenius1> ok i made sure firefox was killed, and removed it and reinstalled it, still no luck
[17:01] <cb_> i havent tried it in the default gnome
[17:01] <moncky> lenswipe: then run  updatedb
[17:01] <moncky> lenswipe: then use the locate command
[17:01] <mbeierl> cb_: sorry - vmware user here.  don't know about those issues with vb :(
[17:01] <cb_> Buletin, there is a great one but i cant remember the name
[17:01] <lenswipe> moncky: locate?
[17:01] <sipior> Pici: perhaps consider adding it to the channel topic? (although whether anyone reads it...)
[17:01] <cb_> i would use vmware but its expensive lol
[17:02] <cb_> Buletin, check out Gyach
[17:02] <moncky> lenswipe: yeah it searches your file system though configs may be in a . file in your home dir
[17:02] <Buletin> thanks
[17:02] <cb_> they have video/voicechat support for yahoo
[17:02] <identity> does anyone know how to add non english characters to the standard character set?rn
[17:02] <sipior> Pici: or a factoid, maybe.
[17:02] <cb_> it may be a little complex to setup..not sure if its in ubuntu repos or not
[17:02] <Pici> sipior: I'm making a note of it to the other ops, I gotta run for a bit.
[17:02] <lenswipe> moncky: thanks, got them they are in /var/games aparently :)
[17:02] <Linuwb> Thank anyways guys i got to go.
[17:02] <Linuwb> Bye bye
[17:02] <ice109> dulak you still there?
[17:02] <Dulak> ice109: sad that, kde will pick up a wall message but apparently gnome will not
[17:03] <ice109> dulak hmm
[17:03] <Dulak> ice109: yeah I'm coding in another window
[17:03] <Dulak> ice109: I'm gonna test it, sec
[17:03] <sillyCEO> rickest: Do I copy and paste that text into a text file and put it somewhere? Never did a script before (nooooob)
[17:03] <lenswipe> moncky: hmm the config file im looking for isnt there, how do i search for it?
[17:04] <rickest> sillyCEO: yes, then to make it executable do: chmod +x name_of_script
[17:04] <lenswipe> moncky: im running open arena server from the ubuntu repos and i cant find the confg file to make changes to it :(
[17:04] <rickest> sillyCEO: you see the part in there that you need to replace with an actual folder name, right?
[17:04] <tulcod> with what kinda CFLAGS is the majority of ubuntu built?
[17:04] <homo> hello i have a question: if i have multiple linux operating systems on one pc, do i need to have multiple linux-swap partitions or can i use just one swap partition?
[17:04] <Dulak> ice109: yeah gnome doesn't pick it up at all, but kde would it has a program that listens for wall messages and gives a popup, but gnome gets nothing
[17:05] <sillyCEO> rickest: still staring at "chmod"...
[17:05] <jrib> homo: one is fine
[17:05] <ice109> dulak what are wall messages?
[17:05] <limmer> hi, i just installed jaunty on my macbook pro and all of a sudden the default 'human' theme is missing. i have tried reinstalling it through the package manager, but it still doesn't appear in the appearance dialog. any ideas on how to get it reinstalled?
[17:05] <jrib> homo: well maybe if you want to suspend multiple at the same time you want more than one...
[17:05] <planegenius1> i do not get why i cant launch firefox 3.5?
[17:05] <Thingymebob> lenswipe: have you looked in you home folder (its probably a hidden file/folder in there somewhere)
[17:05] <ibuclaw> tulcod, that would depend on the application ... but the most generic is -O2 (although some low-level libraries will refuse to compile with that flag as they are written in a certain way).
[17:06] <w0jrl> !karmic
[17:06] <zek152> how do i see which usb port my usb-serial cable is connected to?
[17:06] <FloridaGuy> does gnome have a snapshot package...the printscreen ( prtscn ) on the keyboard dont work when the panel menu is selected
[17:06] <Dulak> ice109: like write, but to all users
[17:06] <Dulak> ice109: oldschool mass message to all logins
[17:06] <ice109> dulak anyway i can remote open a file?
[17:06] <NetLarIrvine> When I type is uname -a what does it need to say for me to know it is 64 bit?
[17:07] <jrib> NetLarIrvine: uname -m  should return x86_64
[17:07] <Dulak> ice109: no the X session token wouldn't let you do anything
[17:07] <Dulak> ice109: it's to prevent just that from happening, one user starting apps as another and such
[17:07] <NetLarIrvine> it says just "i686"
[17:07] <lenswipe> Thingymebob: no its not, i mean there is an instance of openarena server in there, but its one i downloaded and when i run it its loading a config file called default.cfg from somewhere, which contains the wrong values
[17:07] <jrib> NetLarIrvine: then it's not 64-bit
[17:07] <NetLarIrvine> ok thanks
[17:08] <giulio> irc.oltreirc.net
[17:08] <Thingymebob> lenswipe: locate default.cfg
[17:08] <angelblack> salut all
[17:08] <lenswipe> Thingymebob: it returns nothing
[17:09] <Thingymebob> lenswip did you sudo updatedb
[17:09] <lenswipe> Thingymebob: no, what does it do?
[17:09] <Thingymebob> lenswipe, updates the database of files, do that first then locate default.cfg
[17:10] <Merkuriy> hello all!
[17:10] <lenswipe> Thingymebob: mmkay, its weird tho, cos when i start a game server thats located in my home dir, it loads a file with incorrect values in it called default.cfg but i cant find that file anywhere, weird or what!?
[17:11] <lenswipe> Thingymebob: i just ran sudo updatedb and locate default.cfg still returns nothing
[17:11] <Thingymebob> lenswipe: Indeed, it must be somewhere!
[17:11] <rgbcs> is there an ubuntu deb for firefox 3.5 yet?
[17:11] <rgbcs> (the final release from today)
[17:12] <danbhfive> rgbcs: probably not till karmic
[17:12] <zek152> how do i tell what /dev/ttyUSB port my usb serial converter is on?
[17:12] <sillyCEO> rickrest: Yes, I see that part where I enter my "ff userid" (whatever that is!)
[17:12] <sipior> rgbcs: no, but it is apparently being worked on.
[17:12] <lenswipe> Thingymebob: the thing is, its setting the bind address to dpmaster.deathmask.net
[17:12] <rickest> sillyCEO: ok
[17:12] <rgbcs> sipior, danbhfive: k thanks
[17:13] <Thingymebob> lenswipe: have a look in /usr/lib/games/openarena
[17:13] <lenswipe> Thingymebob: which, seeing as my game server is not hosted from that domain will cause connections to the game server to be lost
[17:13] <lenswipe> Thingymebob: ive been in there, theres no mention of default.cfg
[17:13] <tw3ak> I have a question? I'm experiementing with kernels, after I build a kernel do I have to delete the source dir or can I make clean and build another? with different opt?
[17:13] <lenswipe> Thingymebob: offs, now it cant even find /usr/lib/games
[17:14] <Dulak> zek152: dmesg should show what device it got attached as
[17:14] <lenswipe> Thingymebob: im cracking up here
[17:14] <sergey_> русский
[17:14] <bkevan> Does anyone have a default /etc/group ? mine seemed to lose all group memberships for hal etc when I upgraded my 9.10 Alpha 2 box.. thanks
[17:14] <Thingymebob> lenswipe: now that can't have gone, give me a minute, installing.
[17:15] <Dulak> tw3ak: make clean clears out everything
[17:15] <sillyCEO> rickest: I substituted [your_ff_userid] with what I think is my profile folder name, and saved the whole thing as a text file called "script.sh". Now what?  What's chmod?
[17:15] <lenswipe> Thingymebob: im just re-installing openarena-server
[17:15] <unr3a1> hey all
[17:15] <jeancalvin> how do i install Firefox 3.5 on my ubuntu?
[17:15] <lenswipe> Thingymebob: should gimme something to do to stop me breaking the keyboard over my head
[17:15] <sergey_> может ктонить помочь с разрешением дисплея ?
[17:15] <tw3ak> ok so I don't have to .. great save time once I know I've got the one I want then I'll delete and reinstall a new source dir
[17:15] <leftyfb> Anyone have a PPA for Firefox 3.5 besides mozilla-daily or fta? Both of those still have RC and it segfaults on my hardy installation.
[17:16] <unr3a1> I am sure you are getting this question a lot, but how can I update to firefox 3.5 in 9.04?
[17:16] <sipior> !ru > sergey_
[17:16] <jeancalvin> i don't mind having it go over my regular firefox install
[17:16] <zek152> Dulak, i think i found my problem.  my virtual box didnt have the usb enabled
[17:16] <eirik__> I'm having problems with sound. It has never worked on this machine. All the channels are unmuted and the voulme display clearly shows there is something happening. This is a motherboard soundcard and it is "sorround" capable. Is there a way to check that all is well with the system/soundcard?
[17:16] <Roland123> zek152: try dmesg | grep ttyUSB
[17:16] <rickest> sillyCEO: chmod marks the script as executable so you can run it as a program
[17:17] <bkevan> Does anyone have a vanilla (or close to) /etc/group they can paste to me so I can see the required default groups for haldaemon etc etc? thanks
[17:17] <tw3ak> I've got a 2-5% improvement over 686 with just cpu selection on bytemark... I'm planning on trying the Intel compiler once they have 2.6.30 patched for it. But for now I'm going to try different opts in make menuconfig
[17:18] <unr3a1> so does anyone know where I can get the firefox 3.5 .deb package?
[17:18] <sillyCEO> rickest: OK, sorry for being an idiot, but when you say "do: chmod +x name_of_script" - what do you mean by "Do"?
[17:19] <zek152> Roland123, thanks
[17:19] <leftyfb> Anyone have a PPA for Firefox 3.5 besides mozilla-daily or fta? Both of those still have RC and it segfaults on my hardy installation.
[17:21] <perturbed> hey
[17:21] <twig11> I'm booting 9.04 from the liveCD on an older machine. I get as far as the Ubuntu splash screen then there is a delay and a command prompt. Is there a way to get it to finish loading from here?
[17:21] <ascheel> In my ever progressive move to Ubuntu from Windows, does anybody know of a decent MUD client for the Linux CLI?  Will telnet work just fine with it?  It's the colors that I'm mostly concerned about.  Common MUD clients will colorize specific actions and I'm not sure if that's the emulation (xterm) or if it's the client parsing the information
[17:21] <alkisg> Between 2 ubuntu PCs running openssh-server that are connected with a crossover cable, how would I copy files without the overhead of encryption? I think rsync can use ssh to get a remote shell and then run temporarily as a server, is this correct?
[17:21] <perturbed> can anybody help me with google chromium ?
[17:21] <bkevan> Does anyone have a default /etc/group ? mine seemed to lose all group memberships for hal etc when I upgraded my 9.10 Alpha 2 box.. thanks
[17:21] <ascheel> alkisg, you don't use ssh if you don't want the encryption overhead.  Use FTP
[17:21] <bkevan> peturbed: what do you need
[17:22] <ascheel> alkisg, rsync would also work just fine
[17:22] <Hilikus> hey guys
[17:22] <perturbed> i added the key and the source ..dude but the updates arent showing in the update manager bkevan
[17:22] <limmer> does anyone have any idea why my 'human' theme would simply disappear?
[17:22] <Hilikus> where should i put scripts i write that will be executed by the system??
[17:22] <ascheel> alkisg, you do not need ssh as you are using a crossover cable between 2 PCs and the security is pointless in that scenario
[17:22] <alkisg> ascheel: what's the syntax for not using encyption with rsync? I'm unable to find it :(
[17:22] <perturbed> the daily updates from google i mean bkevan
[17:22] <ascheel> alkisg, rsync doesn't use encryption as far as I know
[17:22] <alkisg> ascheel: the ssh server is already there, and I didn't want to install ftp just for that
[17:22] <bkevan> Hilikus .. depends where you want to put them.. /usr/local/ is a good place..
[17:23] <ascheel> Hilikus, just add a ~/scripts directory and add it to your paths
[17:23] <ascheel> path*
[17:23] <alkisg> ascheel: I think rsync over ssh uses the underlying ssh encryption
[17:23] <ascheel> alkisg, then don't use rsync over ssh
[17:23] <ascheel> just use rsync
[17:23] <alkisg> ascheel: ok, how would I do that?
[17:23] <seyacat> hi
[17:23] <seyacat> all
[17:23] <Hilikus> ascheel: but i won't be running them, it's the system. its a script to detect wireless changes
[17:23] <alkisg> ascheel: do I have to run it in daemon mode?
[17:23] <twig11> What does it mean if I'm trying to run 9.04 from the liveCD but it opens a command prompt after the ubuntu splash screen?
[17:23] <ascheel> Hilikus, then the advice that bkevan said would work well
[17:24] <ascheel> alkisg, rsync always has to have a daemon and a client
[17:24] <seyacat> i have a problem, i have usb-serial device, but it disconnecs and reconects and its imposible get device
[17:24] <ascheel> alkisg: stand by, getting you an example of my rsync script
[17:24] <leftyfb> alkisg: ssh = encryption. rsync over ssh = encryption. No way around it. Mount the remote driver using NFS if you want to copy files with no encryption. But to be honest, I just don't think you're going to see a difference in speed.
[17:24] <Hilikus> ascheel: but where inside usr/local?
[17:24] <ascheel> Hilikus, just put the script in /usr/local
[17:24] <leftyfb> %s/driver/drive
[17:25] <krammer_> how can i send a file while in ssh
[17:25] <Hilikus> ascheel: oh i see
[17:25] <ascheel> Hilikus, correction, /usr/local/bin perhaps
[17:25] <leftyfb> krammer_: man scp
[17:25] <ascheel> Hilikus, just type this and use that:  echo $PATH
[17:25] <alkisg> leftyfb: ftp is about 5 times faster than ssh in gigabit connections with my current PCs
[17:25] <Hilikus> ascheel: thats what i thought, but strictly speaking it's not a binary
[17:25] <leftyfb> alkisg: then use ftp
[17:25] <lenswipe> Thingymebob: fixed it, my custom config file was called server.fg when it should have been server.cfg
[17:25] <ascheel> alkisg: here's the script I use for rsync.  You can figure it out, but ftp is far and away the easiest solution.
[17:25] <ascheel> rsync -av --delete rsync://<IP_ADDRESS>:/media/Music /home/music
[17:26] <Dulak> alkisg: 5x faster???  encryption overhead isn't that much on the wire man, you got something going on there if it's really that big of a difference
[17:26] <lenswipe> Thingymebob: im guessing that when the game couldnt find server.cfg it defaulted to one somewhere else
[17:26] <ascheel> alkisg: you can also look into creating an NFS share to accomplish that
[17:26] <leftyfb> ascheel: that's assuming he has the other machine mounted on /media/Music
[17:26] <Thingymebob> lenswipe:8-) I'll stop the install now then!
[17:26] <alkisg> Dulak: are you sure? I've done extensive testing on that
[17:26] <unr3a1> does no one know where you can get firefox 3.5 in deb format?
[17:26] <ascheel> leftyfb, that's why it's just an example
[17:26] <lenswipe> Thingymebob: :) thanks anyways :)
[17:26] <kbrosnan> unr3a1: not possible atm
[17:26] <leftyfb> alkisg: i'll agree with Dulak
[17:26] <Dulak> alkisg: encryption overhead on the wire shouldn't be more than 30% of normal traffic from what I've seen
[17:26] <ascheel> Dulak: the encryption is a huge overhead on some systems.  On my home fileserver (1.6 GHz atom CPU), I get 3 MB/sec over SFTP.  I get 50 MB/sec over FTP
[17:26] <lenswipe> Thingymebob: actually no, leave the install going - its a good game if you like quake :)
[17:26] <Dulak> alkisg: granted that was at 100m not 1g but still....
[17:26] <rickest> sillyCEO: I mean run that command from a terminal/cmdline
[17:27] <alkisg> Dulak: the problem is in CPU...
[17:27] <lenswipe> Thingymebob: mebbe u could play against me on my server :P
[17:27] <infinity217> i m a beginner, i want to compile desmume and i have an error gtk2.6 is required to build... how do i get it
[17:27] <Dulak> ascheel: that's cpu, not the wire
[17:27] <JamalFanaian> unr3a1, i would recommend installing this ppa and using the package manager. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[17:27] <ascheel> Dulak, it's the CPU that's the bottleneck
[17:27] <JamalFanaian> unr3a1, but you can download the individual deb packages from there as well
[17:27] <Thingymebob> lenswipe: may as well now, i've got the space and the time now with my broken foot!
[17:27] <Dulak> Guess I'm just spoiled with my bleeding edge cpus
[17:27] <leftyfb> mount the drive over nfs and just rsync
[17:27] <ascheel> Dulak, it's not the wire that encrypts the data
[17:28] <lenswipe> Thingymebob: heh, gimme a second to make sure everything is working and the ports are open, sorry bout ur broken foot btw :)
[17:28] <twig11> Can somebody give a beginner some pointers on getting 9.04 to boot from the liveCD on an older machine? I'm getting the splash screen and then a command prompt.
[17:28] <alkisg> ascheel, leftyfb: I though it would be possible to use rsync regularily, which would login to the remote server with the usual ssh, and then it would open temporarily a port remotely, and use that to avoid encryption. So that scenario isn't possible, then?
[17:28] <Dulak> ascheel: well my stuff is all super fast so I don't notice the cpu being the bottleneck usually
[17:28] <leftyfb> alkisg: ssh = encrypted
[17:28] <kraut> how do i restart the panel, if i deleted it?
[17:28] <ascheel> alkisg: ssh is always encrypted.  Don't use SSH if you're going over a crossover cable.
[17:28] <alkisg> leftyfb: yes, that's why it would open another port
[17:29] <leftyfb> SSH = Secure SHell (encrypted)
[17:29] <leftyfb> alkisg: ssh = encrypted
[17:29] <alkisg> Ah I'm not getting through, my English sucks
[17:29] <Dulak> alkisg: just set up rsyncd on one box and direct rsync it over
[17:29] <alkisg> Let me try that again
[17:29] <crashR> hi there ! does someone knows if FF3.5 will be included in the main repository soon ? Or is it a better idea to get it from launchpad ?
[17:29] <leftyfb> alkisg: you CANNOT use ssh unencrypted, period
[17:29]  * ellar is interested in crashR s question
[17:29] <Dulak> alkisg: rsync doesn't have to transport over ssh, it has it's own bare protocol it can use if you set it up to do so
[17:30] <alkisg> leftyfb: I'm not talking about ssh. rsync can execute commands remotely. So it can temporarily execute an rsync daemon
[17:30] <Dulak> crashR: I think the repo version is still the beta, it hasn't updated to the full version, I expect it'll show up pretty quick though
[17:30] <leftyfb> alkisg: rsync over what?
[17:30] <ascheel> alkisg, the rsync daemon has to be running already, or the rsync client won't be able to connect to it
[17:30] <regeya> crashR: shiretoko(sp) is 3.5; I haven't checked in a couple of days, but isn't 3.5 still in beta?
[17:30] <leftyfb> oh wait, rsync daemon
[17:30] <brandonban6> anyone know how to write a shell script that when called inserts the date and time in whatever application you are working in?
[17:31] <crashR> 3.5 final is out now :)
[17:31] <kraut> how do i restart the panel, if i deleted it?
[17:31] <ascheel> brandonban6: try going to #bash for that, but use backticks(`) around the 'date' command
[17:31] <ellar> regeya, final released today
[17:31] <Kragnerac> Hi, does anyone know when 3.5 Final will be in the repos?
[17:31] <Kragnerac> *Firefox 3.5 Final
[17:31] <ascheel> kraut, right-click the panel, choose Add, then find the applet again
[17:31] <brandonban6> thanks ascheel
[17:31] <krammer_> kraut, do u have a panel now
[17:31] <ascheel> brandonban6: you're welcome sir
[17:31] <kraut> krammer_: no
[17:32] <kraut> krammer_: i did a mistake and deleted the above panel completly
[17:32] <crashR> but I wondered if packagers will include it in jaunty main repositories
[17:32] <kraut> only the bottom one is still there
[17:32] <haytham-med> firefox 3.5 released
[17:32] <kraut> asanchez: the entire panel is away
[17:32] <ascheel> kraut, now i see what you mean.  You deleted the panel entirely.
[17:32] <kraut> yes :/
[17:32] <Dulak> crashR: again, only the beta is in the repos, it should get updated soon
[17:32] <ascheel> right-click the existing panel and choose "New Panel" and re-set it up.
[17:32] <alkisg> ascheel, leftyfb, Dulak: OK let me try to explain the scenario again. (1) rsynch can execute commands remotely. (2) To do that, it connects with ssh. (3) After it connects, it can start an rsync daemon. THE DAEMON WON'T BE USING SSH. But note that when it's started like this, it's called an rsync server, not a daemon. (4) Then, it can use this server to transfer the files without ssh encryption.
[17:32] <alkisg> ==> This way I can transfer files without the need of installing ftpd in all my PCs (they already have sshd installed).
[17:32] <alkisg> Is this scenario possible?
[17:33] <krammer_> ascheel, he doesnt have a panel correct?
[17:33] <kraut> ascheel: oh noes, do i need to reasign every stuff?
[17:33] <ascheel> krammer_: missing one of his 2 default panels
[17:33] <kraut> krammer_: the bottom one is still there
[17:33] <Dulak> alkisg: you're not getting it, rsyncd is how to do what you are talking about, not ssh, even if it could do it how you think, it would probably just use a ssh tunnel and still you'd have encryption.
[17:33] <krammer_> just add then move up or where ever side u like
[17:34] <alkisg> Dulak: why would it need an ssh tunnel if it could open a port on it's own and make a direct connection to it without ssh?
[17:34] <ellar> no one knows how to get firefox 3.5 from (main) repo?
[17:34] <kbrosnan> ellar: it has not been updated yet
[17:34] <sillyCEO> rickest: Oh, Duh. OK. So my script is called "killthefile.sh" so in terminal, I just write "chmod killthefile.sh" ?
[17:34] <Starbucks> Hey I have an issue with my vista...grub error 18 (done a google search but its not helpful). I have two drives one with win 7 the other previously with ubuntu but formatted now with vista...working fine untill I turned it on one day and bam it stopped me booting into vista with the grub 18 error. Thanks.
[17:35] <erUSUL> !info firefox-3.5 | ellar
[17:35] <jpolonia> hey need help
[17:35] <alkisg> ascheel, leftyfb, Dulak: thanks for your help :)
[17:35] <krammer_> Starbucks, have you tried fix MBR?
[17:35] <Dulak> alkisg: from a programmer's point of view, why wouldn't I use a ssh port instead of an open port when obviously I was used through ssh, as opposed to being in daemon mode which covers your usage scenario?
[17:35] <ascheel> alkisg: ignore ssh.  Forget SSH.  First off, Daemon = Server application.
[17:35] <aytekin> hello
[17:35] <RJARRRPCGP> Hello.
[17:35] <aytekin> is there any geek about local area network connection
[17:36] <alkisg> ascheel: look at the rsync man page about the daemon <> server meanings
[17:36] <ascheel> alkisg: start rsyncd, use rsync on the other PC to connect to it.  No SSH.  DO not use SSH
[17:36] <djolefol1> How can I connect to mobile broadband with Option Globethrotter iCON 401 USB modem in Jaunty?
[17:36] <kraut> krammer_: ascheel: ok, got it back mostly
[17:36] <kraut> thanks
[17:36] <aytekin> how to connect to another comp in local area
[17:36] <ellar> Kragnerac, crashR you got that?
[17:36] <Dulak> alkisg: to program rsync to use a bare port while being used through ssh when running in daemon mode does the same thing would be redundant
[17:36] <kraut> damn it, never click to fast again
[17:36] <krammer_> Great!
[17:36] <ellar> thanks erUSUL
[17:37] <twig11> anybody willing to take a few minutes to help a beginner with an install on on older computer?
[17:37] <hemanth> Previous i was asking about the advantage of using Ubuntu DVD and methods to install packages from DVD , i don rembr the nick of those who were helping me , can anyone help me on this issue
[17:37] <jpolonia> i need to know how autentificated in windows proxy
[17:37] <ascheel> alkisg: if you use ssh to remote-start the rsync listener, the connection will be going over ssh, hence encryption
[17:37] <crashR> if its in universe I'll get it now (even in beta) ellar :)
[17:37] <RJARRRPCGP> Is this possible: to have / and /boot on a USB flash drive and /home, /tmp and /var on a normal HDD?
[17:37] <Starbucks> krammer_: I don't know how to make it work...the vista disk gives me the option to go into C AFTER it asks for some 'drivers'?
[17:37] <jpolonia> some body nkwo
[17:37] <ascheel> alkisg: If you do NOT want encryption ( and the associated overhead), do not remote start it over SSH.  You will have to start rsyncd daemon as the server.
[17:38] <krammer_> Starbucks, go into recovery mode
[17:38] <ascheel> jpolonia: I'm sorry but I dont' understand your question
[17:38] <alkisg> ascheel: I'm looking to start rsync in daemon mode from within the ssh connection.
[17:38] <RJARRRPCGP> Because I likely have REAL slow writes.
[17:38] <jpolonia> the proxy of ubuntu it's not working
[17:38] <ricardoromao> someone has the problem than I, my pidgin transmission rate is to slow to transfer files
[17:39] <ascheel> alkisg, you can do that over SSH, but you will need to connect rsync over a SECOND connection over the UNENCRYPTED port
[17:39] <alkisg> ascheel: yes
[17:39] <Typh> How do I disable system beep?The "alert" box is unchecked in sound, but it still happens.
[17:39] <krammer_> Starbucks, http://askbobrankin.com/fix_mbr.html
[17:39] <jpolonia> who can help me ?
[17:39] <ellar> crashR you should also see meta package firefox-3.1
[17:39] <alkisg> ascheel: that's the rsync command line I'm looking for.
[17:39] <ascheel> alkisg: so just use ssh to start rsync as a listener.  Stand by...
[17:39] <jpolonia> hi i'm new
[17:39] <Dulak> alkisg: it's not automatic, you login via ssh, start rsync in daemon mode, then from the other computer you do a normal rsync over
[17:40] <XbmcUser> Hi all
[17:40] <alkisg> ascheel, Dulak: rsync can tell ssh to execute a command, so no need for a different ssh connection
[17:40] <Dulak> alkisg: I just don't think it's gonna be an automatic "one-liner"
[17:40] <Typh> Ah. Terminal profile. Who'd have thunk.
[17:40] <jpolonia> i want to work with the proxy of my company
[17:40] <jpolonia> who can help
[17:40] <jpolonia> ?
[17:40] <ascheel> Dulak, he understands that.  He wants to start rsync to listen, but he wants to do it manually over an SSH connection so he can then start rsync over a second connection that's not over SSH.
[17:40] <RJARRRPCGP> I would like to have files that are usually only read on a USB flash drive and the files being changed often on a normal HDD.
[17:40] <fophillips> I don'
[17:40] <ascheel> Dulak: what's he's done, he will manually shut down the rsync listener over ssh
[17:40] <hemanth> Dulak: sorry i said brb and came back now , u were helping about ubuntu dvd
[17:41] <fophillips> I don't suppose anyone can explain why my window borders have turned pink?
[17:41] <Dulak> ascheel: I understood him to want to run a single command to have all that happen automagically
[17:41] <fophillips> Wait, never mind. Back to normal now :\
[17:41] <nasrullah> yahoo messenger is not working in pidgin your help please.
[17:41] <ascheel> Dulak, he could if he sets up .bashrc for a specific login
[17:41] <XbmcUser> I've messed with grub.my ubuntu is 8.10 and installed it using wubi
[17:41] <aytekin> hello
[17:41] <alkisg> Dulak, ascheel: I think it's possible with a one-liner. I thought it was hard myself; that's why I got here to ask. I understand now that what I'm asking is not trivial, so I'll do it in the next few hours :) If you want, I can come back and tell you the results...
[17:41] <aytekin> is there any specialist knowing about local area connection
[17:41] <RJARRRPCGP> I was able to do a full install of 9.04 on to a SanDisk Cruzer, but the boot is slow.
[17:41] <ascheel> nasrullah: go to #pidgin and read the topic
[17:41] <krammer_> nasrullah, go to irc
[17:41] <jpolonia> proxy ubuntu not work
[17:41] <twig11> What causes the 9.04 desktop cd to boot to a command prompt instead of to the desktop on on older pc?
[17:41] <twig11> Anybody?
[17:42] <RJARRRPCGP> I dunno.
[17:42] <jpolonia> yes
[17:42] <crashR> saw this too ellar.. but this is the same beta version .. so lets run with 3.5 ^^
[17:42] <hemanth> twig11: older pc means ? How old ? What is the config ?
[17:42] <alkisg> Dulak, ascheel: thanks again for your advice and your patience :)
[17:42] <Dulak> alkisg: g'luck with it
[17:42] <dva5912> How would i go about upgrading my laptop processor? It currenly has a Intel Centrino 1.73. Id love to get at least 2 ghz on my laptop. What can i do? Its a Dell D610
[17:42] <ascheel> alkisg: my advice is to run rsyncd permanently on the server
[17:42] <MacinMan> what command does ubuntu run on install to configure hardware? i need to reconfigure x to recognize 3d support i enabled in my vm
[17:43] <aytekin> i need some options about connecting to another comp in a local area
[17:43] <sillyCEO> rickest: So I wrote "chmod killthefile.sh" in terminal, and it said "missing operand after 'killthefish.sh' Any ideas?
[17:43] <perturbed> lol
[17:43] <rickest> sillyCEO: that's not the command I said to run
[17:43] <aytekin> hello
[17:43] <Dulak> sillyCEO: you didn't give it any permissions
[17:43] <perturbed> what the hell
[17:43] <RJARRRPCGP> And BTW, the Asus A7N8X-X is capable of USB flash drive booting!
[17:43] <aytekin> i need some options about connecting to another comp in a local area
[17:43] <freecom4ever> what is the channel ubuntu es?
[17:43] <jpolonia> i want to configure mi laptop with the proxy of ubuntu in my company
[17:43] <jpolonia> but fail
[17:43] <ascheel> sillyCEO: the command syntax for chmod is as such:  chmod 666 filename.sh  (666 is the mask you want to use for permissions, there are other methods of modifying the permissions besides the numbers)
[17:43] <krammer_> dva5912, from 1.7 to 2 there wont be much difference upgrade the memory
[17:43] <Dulak> !es | freecom4ever
[17:44] <freecom4ever> thanks
[17:44] <dva5912> krammer_: i already got it maxed
[17:44] <twig11> hemanth: I'm having a hard time finding out. It's not a name-brand box, and it's got a broken XP installation on it, probably pirated. It looks like it's got an AMD Athlon processor. That's all I've been able to figure out so far. I'm a beginner.
[17:44] <dva5912> 2gb
[17:44] <dva5912> krammer_: it dont have tgo be 2ghz maby 2.5 or even three
[17:44] <dva5912> just so this thing isnt boggy
[17:44] <aytekin> hello
[17:44] <RJARRRPCGP> I just tested, but the boot is REAL slow!
[17:44] <aytekin> i need some options about connecting to another comp in a local area
[17:44] <nightdrever> I installed a program called scid......to run it i have to type in scid at the terminal.......when its running i have to keep terminal........can i make a shortcut?.....and anyway it running without terminal open??
[17:44] <twig11> hemanth: I'm working on this box for somebody else.
[17:44] <krammer_> dva5912, ok then go with 3 you will experience the difference
[17:44] <ascheel> nightdrever:  command &
[17:44] <hemanth> twig11: in the terminal can u type cat /proc/cpuinfo
[17:44] <jpolonia> not it's no
[17:44] <zak> if i want to use filezilla,(ftp) should i open ports in my routeur and Firewall ?
[17:44] <ascheel> nightdrever add the & after the command
[17:45] <dva5912> krammer_: but what do i get? Another Intel centreno?
[17:45] <Hylian> say guys, i know how to get around dos and windows file systems, but i dont quite yet understand just where everything is placed in the linux system yet, is there a good walkthrough or something for this, having a hard time finding it on google
[17:45] <Dulak> nightdrever: you can make a launcher on the desktop or in the menu that will run it directly without having to go to terminal
[17:45] <hemanth> twig11: did u try xubuntu ?
[17:45] <RJARRRPCGP> I highly suspect the flash drive having REAL slow writes!
[17:45] <nasrullah> thank you
[17:45] <sillyCEO> rickest: Oh, I see. So how do I know what my permissions mask would be? My "666" ??
[17:45] <twig11> hemanth: Is that more likely to work even from the Desktop CD?
[17:45] <krammer_> dva5912, If you dont have the experience with hardware save ur money and but a new laptop for few hundred more hundred $$
[17:46] <cyberghoser1> zak, if you want to turn your pc in a ftp server to allow peoeple to downloads files then yes
[17:46] <unitedpotsmokers> hey guys, what is the best editor for programmer? i used notepad++ in windows, and now im searching for ubuntu
[17:46] <beast_> Hylian:  http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/
[17:46] <rickest> sillyCEO: run the command I told you to run, peroid.
[17:46] <Dulak> nightdrever: right-click on a panel and click add to panel, then choose Custom Application Launcher from the list that comes up
[17:46] <zak> cyberghoser1: i just want to transfer files from my pc to my lappy
[17:46] <hemanth> twig11: yes very much , what kind of work are u planning to do
[17:46] <krammer_> unitedpotsmokers, there are many to choose from but most like vi
[17:46] <RJARRRPCGP> Thus, I want to have the boot files on the SanDisk Cruzer and the /tmp and /var on a normal mechanical drive!
[17:46] <Hylian> beast: thanx
[17:46] <hemanth> Dulak: sorry i said brb and came back now , u were helping me about ubuntu dvd
[17:46] <sillyCEO> Dulak: thx. Just learning syntax and scripting. Don't know what 'mask' is......
[17:46] <cyberghoser1> zak, share folders then :)
[17:46] <Dulak> nightdrever: talk in channel please, it'll help other peole
[17:47] <zak> cyberghoser1: how<
[17:47] <RJARRRPCGP> Gee wiz, tons of users!
[17:47] <twig11> hemanth: The person I'm fixing it for just wants to store pictures. nothing intensive there.
[17:47] <Dulak> hemanth: yeah did you check your /etc/apt/sources.list to see if the dvd is listed as your package source?
[17:47] <zak> cyberghoser1: i installed filezilla
[17:47] <RJARRRPCGP> lol
[17:47] <cyberghoser1> zak, right click on a folder ans go to the share tab
[17:47] <cyberghoser1> zak, filezill is a ftp server/client
[17:47] <ascheel> nightdrever, when you execute the command in the terminal, just type the command and add a & after the command THEN hit Enter
[17:47] <zak> cyberghoser1: i have 100gb of files
[17:47] <zak> is that possible
[17:47] <nightdrever> ok ive clicked add to panel
[17:47] <cyberghoser1> zak, of course it is
[17:48] <nightdrever> but how do i get scid showing?
[17:48] <Dulak> nightdrever: then custom application launcher
[17:48] <cyberghoser1> zak, right click on a folder choose properties then share and share it through your network
[17:48] <hemanth> Dulak: checked its not there
[17:48] <dva5912> I can do the processor change. I just need to know what to get. My current one only supports 32 bit. DO i need to get another one like it? Or can i just get any other intel mobile processor?
[17:48] <hemanth> twig11: does he want to access ntfs ?
[17:48] <zak> cyberghoser1: gonna try it;)
[17:49] <sillyCEO> rikest: Oops, your original command is not showing anymore. I think it had an "x" and a "+" between the filename and the chmod...
[17:49] <cyberghoser1> zak, good luck :)
[17:49] <threatrix> I was trying to install a printer on my computer when I went to find the printing tab under the administration menu it was not there. What can i do?
[17:49] <krammer_> dva5912, see you mb manufacture
[17:49] <twig11> hemanth: sorry, I'm not sure what you mean. Are you asking if he needs access to the existing file system?
[17:49] <nightdrever> ok done that thankz
[17:49] <hemanth> twig11: yes
[17:49] <Dulak> hemanth: you can go to Settings->Repositories->Third Party, have the dvd in the drive and select cdrom and it should add the dvd as a source
[17:50] <nightdrever> is there a way to change what the launcher looks like?
[17:50] <shesek> Hey, I'm trying to install an external USB wifi (wn620g) on Ubuntu 9.04 64bit (server edition). I tried installing netathrxusb driver (the original driver that was supllied, for Vista 64bit) using ndiswrapper, but I'm getting a bunch of errors ("ndiswrapper version 1.53 loaded...", than lots of "unknown symbol" errors and than it fails)