[07:21] <holycow> Crescendo, depends on the desktop
[07:22] <dragonfyre13> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7040
[07:22] <auk> MistaED: the terms say you have to terminate service immediately if you don;t agree
[07:22] <yanqing> holycow, thanks
[07:22] <MistaED> holycow: yep xorg 7.3 is getting all these updates for a modular xorg config, which is plugged into dbus :D i hope feisty's 7.2 has that config stuff backported from 7.3
[07:22] <auk> so you can buy it, but must not use it ( / keep it installed)
[07:22] <holycow> Crescendo, typically gnome and kde have their own native apps, and no one reqally bothers writing third party stuff for this as its poitnless (maybe not for everyone i guess).  other desktops have their own native apps as well
[07:22] <holycow> MistaED, that would be cool
[07:22] <holycow> yanqing, indeed, no problem
[07:23] <file13> Does anyone know of a program that allow you to have multiple workspaces like in linux?
[07:23] <Crescendo_> holycow, I'm looking for something specific to hotkeying a line of characters - Ubuntu, Gnome. :/
[07:23] <file13> on a windows box
[07:23] <holycow> Crescendo, in gnome its /system/preferences/keyboard shortcuts
[07:23] <holycow> thats prettyh much it for gnome
[07:23] <holycow> don't know about kde
[07:24] <auk> file13: there is such i program, i know of it (can't remember the name)
[07:24] <holycow> file13, on microsoft.com they have some crappy app that does that yes
[07:24] <holycow> search their site
[07:24] <auk> but it doesn't work so well, i hear
[07:24] <bob__> I wish Apple would natively port Quicktime and iTunes to GNU/Linux.
[07:24] <Crescendo_> holycow, it won't let me add new ones.  :/
[07:24] <file13> cheers
[07:24] <auk> bob__: i don't
[07:24] <holycow> Crescendo, *nod* it is limited i hear ... thats pretty much it as far as i know ... i'm sorry.
[07:24] <bob__> Still can't watch Macworld streams
[07:24] <bob__> Why?.
[07:24] <auk> i wish more people would start supporting ogg
[07:25] <Crescendo_> No problem. :)
[07:25] <holycow> bob__, because apple are worse than ms at supporting open source
[07:25] <Crescendo_> gDesklets Shell doesn't seem to be starting up all the way... :/
[07:25] <Ronfar> I'm experiencing a problem if anyone cares to help, I'd greatly apperciate it. It seems to only happen using IRC or posting on the Ubuntu fourms I experience a freeze which turns my screen White with horizontal lines. It happens randomly could be 5mins to 5 hours I never know, I also haven't noticed it happening with certain programs I run and I run minimal progs at that
[07:25] <holycow> so much for the famous egalatarian higher mindset of the mac users
[07:25] <holycow> it turns out they are as much of a cult as we are :)
[07:26] <PMantis> How can i get vi to equal vim in Edgy?
[07:26] <dawkirst> How does HP laptops compare to brands like Toshiba and Lenovo?
[07:26] <holycow> Ronfar, that would indicate a video card driver issue by your description
[07:26] <bob__> I thought Apple helped out with konquerer, since safari is related.
[07:26] <MistaED> holycow: they have no problems using open source in their OS though ;)
[07:26] <holycow> there is nothing on ubuntu forums to trigger say extensions or plugins that might crash a video drivers
[07:26] <Vande8594> how can i directly connect a ubuntu system to a windows xp system to get an internet conn. of the windows comp.
[07:26] <auk> bob__: sort... of
[07:26] <holycow> well you might want to try removing all firefox extensions first and try again
[07:27] <holycow> Ronfar, but what video card do you have? and what drivers are you using?
[07:27] <arepie> is there a command which i can check my 3D acceleration is working?
[07:27] <auk> they sort... of donated the code they produced back
[07:27] <holycow> MistaED, thats what i mean, its mostly a one way street with that company
[07:27] <dragonfyre13> holycow: anyway, I'm going to go. Check this out, and google for windows refund for more info. http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7040
[07:27] <Ronfar> Acctually I am just using a built in video card, I'm not sure what is.. The drivers I assume were automatically detected and installed when I installed Ubuntu
[07:27] <holycow> MistaED, if it wasn't for bsd they would of been dead, their os experiment was basically dead before someone pulled th eplug and said go with bsd
[07:28] <holycow> if it wasn't for the bsd licence, apple would not be here today, at least thats my not so humble opinion
[07:28] <dragonfyre13> Bye all. Be back later.
[07:28] <holycow> dragonfyre13, later
[07:28] <Ronfar> This computer is fairly old it's a PIII so perhaps my video card could be giving out?
[07:29] <holycow> ronaldo, that is possible too, there could be other anomalies.... have you eliminated your monitor and video connectors out of the equation?
[07:29] <bob__> I agree a one way street with Apple.
[07:29] <mc_> arepie,   glxinfo | grep direct
[07:29] <MistaED> holycow: maybe in another form, using NT or go with linux
[07:29] <Ronfar> My monitor/connectors I assume would be out of the equation as I just purchased them 6 months ago
[07:30] <arepie> mc_, i suppose that to check Direct randering for OpenGL
[07:30] <holycow> MistaED, i doubth they would of  ever capitulated to the gpl
[07:30] <holycow> mr. turtleneck would rather sign a deal with the devil than capitulate to sharing
[07:30] <dawkirst> And what is the "best" processing technology to look for when buying a laptop?
[07:30] <mc_> arepie, if it says direct rendering: yes then 3d is working
[07:30] <jules_> Does anybody know a cure for my problem? I am using Kubuntu 6.10 and it wont switch off after boot down. I have to press the power button for 5 seconds to make it switch off
[07:30] <Ronfar> Funny thing is though it never happens when I use Ajunta to program or vist any other sites only when I come on IRC it seems to trigger it the most and once in awhile on Ubuntu fourms
[07:30] <holycow> but that is my opinion, and my opinion alone
[07:30] <holycow> :)
[07:31] <bob__> I wonder if Apple using the BSD license has anything to do with Steve Jobs and Woz going to Berkley.
[07:31] <holycow> dawkirst, for laptops, imho, right now intel
[07:31] <holycow> they have open sourced all their chipset drivers, tho they remain faithfully evil in a bunch of areas
[07:31] <MistaED> holycow: really their key program they really need is their desktop technology, they could just plunk that on top of linux, but yeah i'd doubt they would due to all the TPM locks they need to keep OSX running on intel
[07:31] <holycow> intel based laptops will be easiest to setup
[07:31] <arepie> mc_, not for me.. i check my system using cedega.. and it says that my OpenGL is working and 3D acceleration is not.. and my direct randering is a "yes"
[07:31] <holycow> MistaED, *nod*
[07:31] <dawkirst> holycow: Why so, besides the fact that AMD is unlikely to be found in a laptop around here?
[07:32] <holycow> dawkirst, because compared to other chip manufacturers all of their chipset drivers are open source
[07:32] <holycow> however
[07:32] <holycow> someone correct me about the 3d accelerated stuff
[07:32] <holycow> i'm not certain if all the 3d accelerated stuff is FULLY open sourced ... it may be a halway hack
[07:32] <holycow> nvidia and all the others have spotty support in comparison it seems to me
[07:33] <Ronfar> holycow: thanks for the advice, I'll try a card from another one of my computers and see if thats the problem, let you know if it works or not thanks again
[07:33] <mc_> arepie, Ok I don't know about cedega I'm afraid but that is the test I always understood to be accurate for accelerated 3d. I have had opengl working without accelereation and it says no.
[07:33] <holycow> Ronfar, no prob
[07:33] <dawkirst> holycow: and what brand of laptop would you suggest?
[07:34] <dawkirst> holycow: and what brand Intel CPU? Intel Core Duo?
[07:34] <holycow> dawkirst, laptop brands are irrelevant really
[07:34] <holycow> all the components are made by the same chinese manufacturers
[07:35] <holycow> what matters is the components in the laptop
[07:35] <slowz3r> can someone recommend me a good program to veiw and connect to wifi networks
[07:35] <holycow> so if you by intel chipset laptops you are pretty well guaranteed everything working out of the box except winmodems
[07:35] <bob__> I feel Mark Shuttleworth is going to be the next big player, but without the greed that Jobs and Gates has. Thankfully!!.
[07:35] <dawkirst> holycow: OK.
[07:36] <holycow> bob__, i want him to make money, i thin kthere is quite a bit of money to be made in support but then i don't have the capital to place that bet
[07:37] <slowz3r> can someone recomend a program that i can use to view and connect to wifi networks
[07:37] <bob__> I want him to make money too. But he is more for the user, and wants people of all economic backgrounds to enjoy using a computer and learning from it.
[07:38] <holycow> very smart fellow indeed
[07:38] <holycow> kind and generous too
[07:38] <holycow> although that makes him sound more like buddha than human
[07:38] <holycow> heh
[07:38] <bob__> Unlike Apple and Microsoft. You need allot of money just to afford a computer with loads of software, like you get with Ubuntu.
[07:39] <holycow> i can't use windows any more
[07:39] <holycow> not just because there are no free programs
[07:39] <holycow> the workflow of the desktop is terrible for me
[07:39] <holycow> so yeah, ubuntu all the way :)
[07:39] <bob__> What does MS do?. Offer Windows XP Starter Edition.  Why not XP Pro at a reduced cost.
[07:40] <oppinito> what is the default password for root?
[07:40] <holycow> then they have the problem of justifying pricing in rich countriies
[07:40] <holycow> if you chared $2 for an os in thailand you gotta be able to turn around and justify why it costs 200 in north america
[07:41] <holycow> oppinito, there is no root on ubuntu
[07:41] <holycow> !root
[07:41] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:41] <holycow> read that pls
[07:41] <holycow> ask questions if you don't know how to use sudo
[07:41] <bob__> Why not just charge for Office and give away the operating system!. Not every program in GNU/Linux is free. Look at Maya.
[07:42] <Zazrael> holycow: There is in fact root on ubuntu, it's just marked as no login and has no password hash.
[07:42] <holycow> bob__, well because taxation is the worlds most successfull business
[07:42] <bob__> Office is their bread and butter
[07:42] <holycow> you don't make the kinds of margins they make without figuring out a way to impose an ms tax on all hardware
[07:42] <holycow> why do you think they are going into the business of supplying software for tv sets?
[07:42] <holycow> bob__, actually no
[07:42] <bob__> I would pay for Office
[07:42] <holycow> windows is
[07:42] <slowz3r> Whats a good program i can use to view and connect to Wirless networks besides Wifi Radar
[07:43] <holycow> office is very much #2 on their profit / loss statements
[07:43] <holycow> few people pay for office
[07:43] <holycow> EVERYONE pays for windows ... its built into the price of every dell
[07:43] <holycow> it used to be built into the price of every system even ones without windows before they got taken to court over their monopoly
[07:43] <wenko> I have never payed
[07:44] <holycow> slowz3r, system/admin/networking ... the applet will automatically show yhou what network is available
[07:44] <holycow> besides that i'm not sure, that always has worked well for us
[07:44] <bob__> Yeh but when you get a Dell, ask for all the software on disk when you get it.  Better learn a second language.
[07:46] <holycow> wenko, but overall they have made almost no money from me, and never will
[07:46] <thevenin> i hate dells tech support
[07:46] <slowz3r> holycow, its only the network settings thing i dont see any available networks
[07:46] <bob__> Has anyone tried Xara Linux Edition. Have it on my Dapper and love it!!.
[07:48] <holycow> slowz3r, sometimes you haveto close the popup and double click on the wireless card again to see it
[07:48] <holycow> it has to have enough time to go into scan mode or whatever to sense the networks
[07:48] <slowz3r> holycow, well im not using a care im using an external usb antena
[07:49] <holycow> slowz3r, oh in that case the problem is the drivers
[07:49] <holycow> slowz3r, i don't know of a single usb wireless adapter that works
[07:49] <DanaG> WTF?  Lately my Gnome 'Run Application" dialog has begun to FORCE autocomplete
[07:49] <holycow> :/ but i've not really tried them, perhaps there are some listed on the wiki known to work?
[07:49] <dseazrca> 13:52 [freenode]  DCC SEND from CrackBaby [<IP_ADDRESS> port 0] : GayNiggerAssociationOfAmerica [0B bytes]  requested in  channel #ubuntu
[07:49] <DanaG> so I end up trying to run things like:
[07:49] <DanaG> amarokok
[07:49] <DanaG> updatete-manager
[07:49] <DanaG> synaptictic
[07:49] <slowz3r> holycow, well i can see networks with wifi radar..i just want a better more developed way of looking at networks
[07:50] <DanaG> nvidia-ia-settings
[07:50] <holycow> slowz3r, try kizmet for looking for networks
[07:50] <DanaG> How do I fix this?
[07:50] <bob__> How many Windows managers do you all have loaded on your machine. Curious
[07:50] <slowz3r> alright
[07:50] <DanaG> mozillalla-thunderbird
[07:50] <slowz3r> holycow, alright ill try
[07:50] <slowz3r> holycow, isnt that for a KDE enviroment
[07:51] <DanaG> It's damn annoying -- how do I fix it?
[07:51] <DanaG> gconf-editoritor
[07:51] <dseazrca> ...
[07:51] <Math^> guys... what about nvu with php...??
[07:51] <nalioth> dseazrca: did you get your invitation?
[07:51] <Math^> is there some plugin for it?
[07:51] <holycow> slowz3r, it makes no diff, gnome/kde apps work on either environment
[07:52] <dseazrca> nalioth: no
[07:52] <holycow> slowz3r, and the answer is actually no
[07:52] <nalioth> dseazrca: join me in #ubuntu-ops for a minute, please
[07:52] <slowz3r> holycow, oo well im a linux nub...so ya bare with me
[07:52] <holycow> DanaG, i'm going to take a wild stab at this and suggest your keyboard is busted
[07:52] <DanaG> Nope, it's Gnome that's doing it.
[07:52] <holycow> DanaG, your explanation in understand but i cannot see how it could result in such errors
[07:52] <DanaG> try going to the run dialog
[07:52] <holycow> slowz3r, no biggie just ask away
[07:53] <holycow> DanaG, you have definitavely ruled out your keyboard?
[07:53] <DanaG> then start typing, and when a suggestion pops up, move to the end and finish typing
[07:53] <DanaG> It's essentially FORCING autocomplete.
[07:53] <slowz3r> holycow, well how can i get kizmet..its not in synaptec
[07:53] <holycow> DanaG, well yes it does autocomplete, you just hit enter and done
[07:53] <holycow> are you trying to keep on typing after autocomplete?
[07:53] <Math^> is there some PHP-plugin for NVU ???
[07:53] <DanaG> In my case, it's finishing the line with no prompting.
[07:53] <Math^> maybe, somewere?\
[07:53] <holycow> slowz3r, it is, you need to enable universe or whatever
[07:54] <Kingsqueak> slowz3r: spell it right?
[07:54] <DanaG> It used to work like this: keep typing, it doesn't autocomplete.
[07:54] <holycow> DanaG, its not highlighting the prompt/suggestion?
[07:54] <holycow> !kizmet
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kizmet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <oppinito> jre isn't included with the default ubuntu installation right?
[07:54] <DanaG> The odd thing is that it's accepting it as soon as I type the very next letter
[07:54] <slowz3r> Kingsqueak, kizmet...right>?
[07:55] <Math^> @_o
[07:55] <Kingsqueak> slowz3r: kismet baby, kismet
[07:55] <monokrome> o_@
[07:55] <holycow> ah!
[07:55] <holycow> lol sorry dude :) well there ya go
[07:55] <DanaG> so I'l' end up typing nvid<ia->ia-settings
[07:55] <DanaG> where the brackets mark the enclosed part.
[07:55] <DanaG> er, autocompleted.
[07:55] <holycow> oppinito, no but you can install it from repos just fine
[07:55] <holycow> DanaG, but its supposed to do that?
[07:55] <slowz3r> Kingsqueak, well that would help
[07:55] <slowz3r> lol
[07:56] <DanaG> No,
[07:56] <holycow> it autocompletes on all default installs
[07:56] <badmacktuck> has anyone had any problems getting 6.10 to run on an x700
[07:56] <DanaG> it's supposed to let you keep typing the rest of the word.
[07:56] <jules_> Is Xara a program that you have to buy? Or can you get it free for Kubuntu?
[07:56] <holycow> DanaG, have you looked for gnome settings via gconf editor to turn this off?
[07:56] <badmacktuck> the live cd doesnt display anything and the text install doesnt do much better
[07:56] <slowz3r> Kingsqueak, after i install it using synaptec do i need to log out an log back in?
[07:57] <holycow> jules_, xara is being open sourced ... sort of.  i think its in the repos
[07:57] <Kingsqueak> slowz3r: shouldn't , if your network driver is loaded and working, it should just work
[07:57] <DanaG> Nothing in gconf.
[07:57] <jules_> I have tried  apt-get xara and it cant find it yet
[07:57] <bob__> You can get it (XaraXtreme) for free but only for Linux. http://www.xaraxtreme.org/
[07:57] <holycow> jules_, search for it first with apt-cache search xara
[07:57] <slowz3r> Kingsqueak, i cant find it in any of the menues
[07:58] <bob__> Just download it and run the bin.
[07:58] <holycow> lol
[07:58] <holycow> no
[07:58] <holycow> install it from repos
[07:58] <holycow> :)
[07:58] <holycow> *cough* :)
[07:58] <holycow> bob__, binary is statically linked i guess?
[07:58] <Kingsqueak> slowz3r: while you're installing, also do  'sudo apt-get install menu'  takes a while for it to get setup after install, but then you can add the 'debian' menu....will show many more apps installed
[07:58] <bob__> Yep
[07:59] <holycow> neat.  then you can do what bob__ said too :)
[07:59] <DanaG> I'll ask in #gnome tomorrow.
[07:59] <jules_> Thanks
[07:59] <holycow> DanaG, that might be better indeed
[07:59] <DanaG> Too late at night now -- back from thanksgiving break.
[07:59] <Kingsqueak> slowz3r: many apps don't show up in the default menus, just run them from the commandline or the Run dialog
[07:59] <holycow> DanaG, sorry we couldn't help you
[07:59] <DanaG> Okay.
[07:59] <bob__> It is similar to Inkscape
[07:59] <bob__> But easier to use
[07:59] <jules_> It is unedr xaralx
[08:00] <slowz3r> Kingsqueak, thats the problem im a noob and have very little knowledge on how to do anything
[08:00] <bob__> Yep
[08:00] <Kingsqueak> slowz3r: that's why I gave you the exact command ;-)
[08:00] <Kingsqueak> slowz3r: you can find 'menu' in synaptic too if you like
[08:00] <bob__> Having Gimp and Xara is like having Photoshop and Illustrator
[08:01] <slowz3r> Kingsqueak, and i get this in return   """E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:01] <slowz3r> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:01] <slowz3r> """"
[08:01] <jules_> Great
[08:01] <jules_> I am still learning Gimp
[08:01] <Kingsqueak> slowz3r: either you aren't using 'sudo' or you are doing two installations at once
[08:01] <jules_> I am only a beginner
[08:01] <holycow> jules_, gimp is amazing
[08:01] <holycow> jules_, if you DON'T know photoshop that is GREAT
[08:01] <Kingsqueak> slowz3r: you can only run one apt-get at a time
[08:02] <Kingsqueak> slowz3r: one instance that is
[08:02] <holycow> it will make it super easy to learn gimp
[08:02] <holycow> if you knew photoshop it would be very hard to unlearn ... as dumb as that sounds
[08:02] <holycow> jules_, let me know if you have any gimp questions in know it very well
[08:02] <jules_> Thanks a lot
[08:02] <jules_> I will
[08:02] <slowz3r> Kingsqueak, ok i got it workin..so after it did all that crap it did what shall i do
[08:02] <holycow> no prob
[08:02] <bob__> If you use Gnome or KDE you can create an icon link as well. It comes with a png for that.
[08:03] <Kingsqueak> slowz3r: maybe start up kismet?  though you might want to read how it works a bit too
[08:03] <dogfood2006> What would you do if your Gnome panel disappears?
[08:03] <dogfood2006> delete the .gnomeprofile file?
[08:03] <macd> restart my gnome session
[08:03] <oppinito> alright so i installed sun java 5.0 runtime
[08:03] <Kingsqueak> slowz3r: your issue is that your driver for your wireless isn't loaded or maybe not supported, you really need to figure that out first
[08:03] <slowz3r> Kingsqueak, ok how the hell do i start up kismet then..
[08:03] <dogfood2006> macd: how do you do that? you mean bounce the xserver?
[08:03] <oppinito> but when i try to run java stuff firefox still tells me i need a plugin
[08:03] <holycow> dogfood2006, open up gconf editor and check off visible for the panel in question
[08:03] <macd> dogfood2006, essentialy yes
[08:03] <holycow> alt/f2 gconf-editor i think it is
[08:04] <Kingsqueak> slowz3r: type 'kismet' in a terminal
[08:04] <macd> or use the keyboard shortcut for ruinning a command
[08:04] <holycow> oppinito, the java .so is in the wrong directory i bet
[08:04] <slowz3r> Kingsqueak, it works i can view networks and i connect to my own wirless network
[08:04] <oppinito> holycow:  so what should i do
[08:04] <holycow> oppinito, well pretty much exactly what i told you :)
[08:04] <dogfood2006> Where is the binary for gconf editor?
[08:04] <jules_> Does anyone know where I can get any borders to use with Scribus? I have some , but not many
[08:05] <oppinito> holycow: what directory should it be in
[08:05] <holycow> oppinito, i don't knkow exactly where the tick boxes are, you will need to find them
[08:05] <Kingsqueak> slowz3r: o.k. I guess I didn't understand your previous question then
[08:05] <dogfood2006> I'd like to do this via the command line if possible
[08:05] <holycow> oppinito, just type in gconf-editor
[08:05] <dogfood2006> over ssh
[08:05] <oppinito> holycow: tick boxes? what?
[08:05] <Kingsqueak> slowz3r: thought you needed something to see what wireless networks were available?
[08:05] <holycow> oppinito, *sigh* okay listen
[08:05] <holycow> hit alt/f2
[08:05] <holycow> that will bring up a command prompt
[08:05] <holycow> in there type in gconf-editor
[08:06] <oppinito> alright
[08:06] <holycow> once you have the editor running you need to find the right keys to check off to turn on the panels
[08:06] <holycow> i don't know what they are tho so don't ask me, ther eis a search function in the tool
[08:06] <oppinito> panels? keys? what
[08:06] <holycow> oppinito, are you comprehending what i'm saying?
[08:06] <holycow> did you even try it?
[08:07] <oppinito> holycow: i have gconf-editor open but i have no idea what you're talking about
[08:07] <holycow> you know, i gave you the answer, questioning my answer makes me angry and not want to help you
[08:07] <holycow> right?
[08:07] <oppinito> holycow: uh are you sure you're talking to the right person? my problem is with JRE
[08:07] <holycow> oppinito, really? oh :) my bad!
[08:07] <Kingsqueak> oppinito: there's a seperate package for the browser plugin if you used the ubuntu java install
[08:08] <dogfood2006> .so files are essentially .dll files in windows correct? If oyu had to make an analogy
[08:08] <dogfood2006> Dynamic link libraries?
[08:08] <holycow> oppinito, sorry bro :) didn't mean that, for java you just need to find the java .so file and put it in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[08:08] <dogfood2006> Or are they static libraries?
[08:08] <holycow> and your done
[08:08] <Zer0> Hello
[08:08] <oppinito> ah alright thanks
[08:09] <klasher> LOL
[08:09] <klasher> :)
[08:09] <Zer0> I seem to be having trouble browsing the internet and connecting to online services Using Ubuntu and My Zyxel Wireless Card.
[08:09] <klasher> ubuntu, where are you?
[08:09] <klasher> ubotu, where are you?
[08:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about where are you? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:09] <Kingsqueak> oppinito: try this   apt-cache search java | sort | grep plugin
[08:09] <klasher> ubotu, raw sex!
[08:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about raw sex! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:10] <klasher> ;)
[08:10] <klasher>  I'm new, sorry.
[08:10] <thevenin> klasher: knock it off please
[08:10] <dogfood2006> I have a question, is there a manpage for apt-get packages?
[08:10] <Zer0> Ubuntu has already loaded my wifi driver for my card and I have configured it for my WPA network. As far as I can tell dhcp is grabbing an IP. Can somone help me track down the issue
[08:10] <klasher> thevenin, that is the last time. sorry.
[08:10] <dogfood2006> I can do a apt-cache search, but can I have a description as well
[08:11] <thevenin> its ok
[08:11] <oppinito> Kingsqueak: alright what should i be looking for (and what should i be doing)
[08:11] <dogfood2006> In a package management like adept, I can see this, and it' really nice, but I would like to have the capability of doing this via command line
[08:11] <Kingsqueak> dogfood2006: 'apt-get packages' I'm not clear on that?
[08:11] <klasher> himself*
[08:11] <oppinito> i see this on the list j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin - Java plugin for mozilla/firefox
[08:11] <Kingsqueak> oppinito: if you run that command I pasted, it will show you packages that match, pick one and do  'sudo apt-get install <whatever>'
[08:11] <dogfood2006> Kingsqueak: A short description of what's available on the apt-get repository.
[08:12] <dogfood2006> Using Adept, you can get description of each downloadable apt-get (package) not sure if that's the right word
[08:12] <Kingsqueak> dogfood2006: the short descriptions come up via apt-cache search <foo> , but I find browsing randomly using synaptic or aptitude a bit nicer
[08:13] <Kingsqueak> dogfood2006: it's doable but you need to pick a package and then pass another option to apt-cache to see more detail, it gets tedious
[08:13] <Zer0> Does Ubuntu have a network manager in the GUI or do you always have to install one?
[08:13] <RichiH> is edubuntu also a live or only an install cd?
[08:13] <Kingsqueak> dogfood2006: if you do 'man apt-cache' you'll see the options
[08:13] <thevenin> RichiH: i do beleive it is only install
[08:14] <RichiH> thevenin: ah, thanks
[08:14] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: for wireless, edgy installs a newer one that works better, with Dapper you needed to install network-manager and network-manager-gnome manually
[08:14] <dogfood2006> Is information actually cached? is that why the command uses  'apt-cache' as nomenclature?
[08:14] <RichiH> it offers install and install on a workstation.. difference?
[08:14] <thevenin> RichiH: not really
[08:14] <Zer0> I belive I have edgy installed
[08:15] <Kingsqueak> RichiH: I *think* edubuntu has an option to do xterminals, thin clients, so the server option may be to host that and workstation may include a full desktop GUI
[08:15] <Kingsqueak> RichiH: just guessing from what I've seen here though
[08:15] <Zer0> Kingsqueak: using iwconfig wlan0 the output indicates the following Access Point: Invalid
[08:15] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: does wlan0 show up in ifconfig -a ?
[08:16] <RichiH> Kingsqueak: makes sense though. thanks
[08:16] <Zer0> no
[08:16] <Kingsqueak> RichiH: people talk about doing http://www.ltsp.org/ with edubuntu as an example
[08:16] <Zer0> Bare with me
[08:16] <Zer0> I am new... Should my typed bash command be (iwconfig -a)?
[08:17] <hazarath> Er... hi... trying to install restricted formats, all fail, says no such package.
[08:17] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: not iwconfig, but  'ifconfig -a'
[08:17] <Zer0> Ah yea
[08:17] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: if you don't see an interface there, your wireless driver may not be loaded
[08:17] <Zer0> I see eth0, sit0, lo, wlan0
[08:17] <malt> hey Kingsqueak :D
[08:18] <Zer0> So it appears the driver is loaded
[08:18] <hazarath> Need help installing restricted formats.
[08:18] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: ah good so it would appear your wireless is loaded, so in one of the gnome menus there is a networking setup section, that should do the trick
[08:18] <Kingsqueak> hey malt
[08:18] <Zer0> This is where I get confused Kind
[08:18] <Zer0> King
[08:19] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: you running Gnome or KDE?
[08:19] <Zer0> Gnome
[08:19] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: on the top launcher bar, there is what, Administration I think right?
[08:19] <malt> anyone know how i can give me lan ip to resolve to a hostname? i know it is not something i really need just thought i would do it since nothing else to do
[08:19] <Zer0> Yes. I have already gone to Administration > Network Settigns
[08:20] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: o.k.
[08:20] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: and what happened
[08:20] <Zer0> I see 3 devices listed
[08:20] <Zer0> Wireless , Wired, modem
[08:20] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: k, click on wireless
[08:20] <Zer0> I have unchecked wired and modem
[08:20] <Zer0> Yes
[08:20] <Zer0> I have already enabled the device
[08:21] <Zer0> Choosen my ESSID
[08:21] <DanaG> well, whaddaya know... it WAS my keyboard.
[08:21] <Zer0> Set my WPA password
[08:21] <Kingsqueak> malt: if it's just for one machine to see, add it to /etc/hosts, otherwise you need BIND/named installed and that's a bit of work to figure out
[08:21] <Zer0> And Set it to DHCP for configuration
[08:21] <DanaG> It started acting like SHIFT and/or CTRL were held down.
[08:21] <DanaG> I had to kill X -- now it's normal again.
[08:22] <Kingsqueak> malt: syntax is    <IP address>   name.you.want.to.call.it
[08:22] <hazarath> Need help with restricted formats, dice, please.
[08:22] <malt> Kingsqueak: will this save?
[08:22] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: o.k., what happened?
[08:22] <malt> or have to do this on every resart with server?
[08:22] <Kingsqueak> malt: yes it stays
[08:22] <Zer0> Kingsqueak so I have already gotten this far
[08:22] <malt> solike <IP_ADDRESS> m4lt.com?
[08:23] <Kingsqueak> malt: you make the /etc/hosts entry on the machine you are connecting with, not the one you are connecting to, you are basically fooling your local machine to believe the name for the IP you setup there
[08:23] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: o.k., well, did it connect?
[08:23] <Zer0> I set the properties to my wireless connection to my ESSID and entered the WPA key set to ANSII and choose DHCP however No dice
[08:23] <Zer0> Still can't pull web pages
[08:23] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: you sure the key is ascii and not hex?
[08:23] <Zer0> WPA?
[08:23] <PMantis> Anyone see a reason to have a separate partition for /var/log on a laptop?
[08:24] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: ah k
[08:24] <diskus> PMantis: no
[08:24] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: ESSID and passphrase are case sensitive, any mistake there?
[08:24] <Zer0> Kingsqueak: Checking
[08:24] <diskus> PMantis: I see reason to have seperate partition for /home only
[08:24] <hazarath> Kingsqueak: After ya done with him, may I borrow ya attention?
[08:25] <Kingsqueak> hazarath: just ask in channel please
[08:25] <PMantis> diskus, I have separate /home and /tmp right now.
[08:25] <hazarath> I did, heh...
[08:25] <hazarath> I need to install restricted formats.
[08:25] <Kingsqueak> hazarath: I'm pretty beat so I'm wearing out ;-)
[08:25] <diskus> PMantis: it depends on how large disk you have
[08:25] <hazarath> Ah, heh.
[08:25] <defrysk> !resticted formats > hazarath
[08:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resticted formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:25] <Firefishe> When I'm generating a gpg key pair, I get this error:  gpg: can't open `/home/rtip/.gnupg/random_seed': Permission denied  ..  any ideas?
[08:26] <defrysk> !resticted > hazarath
[08:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resticted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:26] <defrysk> hmmm
[08:26] <Firefishe> I'm running ubuntu dapper on powerpc
[08:26] <Kingsqueak> !wmv
[08:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:26] <hazarath> I tried the forms.
[08:26] <diskus> PMantis: I have 20GB / (root) so it's basicaly useless to use /tmp and /var partitions
[08:26] <DARKGuy> Firefishe: run as root?
[08:26] <hazarath> All the packages, minus one, isn't found.
[08:26] <thevenin> hazarath: this may help http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Installing_Restricted_Formats
[08:27] <Kingsqueak> hazarath: be more specific, what are you missing, what is the issue etc
[08:27] <Zer0> Kingsqueak: Yes I verified the information
[08:27] <Zer0> Kingsqueak: everyting is in the proper CASE
[08:27] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: if you do 'ifconfig -a' now, do you see that you have an IP on wlan0 ?
[08:27] <Firefishe> DARKGuy:  Well, perhaps, but why would the program--which resides in /usr/local/bin--need to be run as root when I'm runnning it as my  own regular user?  I should be able to write to my own directory, shouldn't I>?
[08:27] <hazarath> Kingsqueak: I wanna play all the 'non-free' formats by system defalt.
[08:27] <Zer0> Checking
[08:28] <CarCase928> hello, how do i update my nvidia driver? and how do i know the type of graphic card i have?
[08:28] <PMantis> diskus, Heh, mine is about 19GB.. ok, thanks.
[08:28] <Kingsqueak> hazarath: o.k., that link tells you how to do it...so where did you get stuck
[08:28] <Zer0> Kingsqueak: No I don't
[08:28] <Firefishe> CarCase928:  lshw can list a lot of hardware information; may need to be run as root
[08:28] <DARKGuy> Firefishe: Well, my guess would be that- or the command needs to access .gnupg as root, or the key is chmodded as root or the folder where the file is, or it tries to access something that it's for root user
[08:28] <CarCase928> firefishe: thanks
[08:28] <DARKGuy> Firefishe: have you tried with another key around?
[08:29] <hazarath> Kingsqueak: Tried the first command for Little Dapper 6.06, Package not found, etc.
[08:29] <Firefishe> CarCase928:  yw
[08:29] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: o.k. so it didn't connect, is it an option to try the router as WEP with no security, something simple just to test a basic connect?
[08:29] <hazarath> Dapper, howeve.
[08:29] <Zer0> Yes
[08:29] <Kingsqueak> hazarath: did you enable the repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list?  Did you do 'sudo apt-get update' after doing that to get the new indexes?
[08:29] <Zer0> Kingsqueak: I am going to disable my ethernet device aswell
[08:29] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: do that, that will rule out any driver issues etc
[08:30] <hazarath> Kingsqueak: Er... ok, what should I do first?
[08:30] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: ahh wait, were you still plugged into wired network?
[08:30] <Zer0> Kingsquak: I don't have wired connection on my linux box
[08:30] <Kingsqueak> hazarath: please read that link info, it explains it all there
[08:30] <Zer0> No can I get one
[08:30] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: ah o.k. good, it won't like being wired and trying to bring up wireless
[08:30] <Firefishe> DARKGuy:  Well, the file permissions issue isn't just with gpg.  I was having troubles with kde when I installed it two days ago (it is now uninstalled).  kde couldn't start because it--and the xserver attached to it--couldn't access any of the .kde files it needed to start up.  All I was getting was permission denied errors.
[08:31] <hazarath> Kingsqueak: Tried the first step, failed.
[08:31] <DARKGuy> Firefishe: Damn, then it's something messed up with permissions in your computer out of nowhere oO...
[08:31] <DARKGuy> Firefishe: and not by gpg or the key itself
[08:32] <Kingsqueak> hazarath: you did this and it failed -> ?   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#what
[08:32] <Kingsqueak> hazarath: you have to read and follow the restricted link exactly, you can't skip steps
[08:33] <PMantis> diskus, Do you know what happened to vi / vim with Edgy? I'm so use to typing 'vi' and actually getting vim...
[08:33] <Firefishe> DARKGuy:  well, I think it's been with me since I installed it.  This is a G4 PowerBook laptop, but permissions are still permissions and linux is still linux.  Still, everything in gnome works just fine with no problems.
[08:33] <Zer0> Ok in the GUI for GNOME it's showing just Wireless as enabled
[08:33] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: have you tried forcing your home directory permissions to your user?  Sometimes if you run sudo with apps it will foul that up
[08:33] <Firefishe> DARKGuy:  Well, I could not generate the key.  It can't access the random_seed file in the .gnupg subdirectory in my home directory,.
[08:34] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: as in 'sudo -i'  then  'chown -R youruser:youruser /home/youruser'
[08:34] <DARKGuy> Firefishe: Weird o.o; try what Kingsqueak says
[08:34] <Firefishe> Kingsqueak:  That sounds about right.  Let me try that.
[08:34] <mitrick> i got a good question here
[08:34] <mitrick> i got an intel core 2 duo and its 64 bit
[08:34] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: it's a side effect of running via sudo, has fouled me up a few times
[08:34] <Firefishe> Kingsqueak: do I run sudo -i and the other command on the same line?
[08:35] <mitrick> if i dl a 64 bit linux will it let me install and run other apps
[08:35] <mitrick> 32 bit
[08:35] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: no, sudo -i first, makes you root, then the other command once you're root
[08:35] <Firefishe> k...let me do that
[08:35] <Firefishe> thanks again
[08:35] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: you'll want to log totally out of KDE after that and log back in
[08:35] <hazarath> Kingsqueak: Sorry, got it now... it's installing.
[08:35] <Hirvinen> mitrick: Yes, you will have to set up a 32 bit chroot environment for those. Search the Ubuntu wiki for step by step instructions.
[08:36] <Zer0> Kingsqueak: Still nothign
[08:36] <Kingsqueak> hazarath: it's all there ;-) you just have to be patient and thorough
[08:36] <fek> moin
[08:36] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: hmm what wireless card do you have?     It isn't playing well with my system.  I still have all the .deb files in the cache, but I have some nasty dependency problems centering around some packages I need to iron out.  I have most of kde ready, it's just the permissions and the xserver and the... ;)
[08:37] <Zer0> I might get disconnected for a minute here
[08:37] <Zer0> I am connected via Wireles
[08:37] <Firefishe> Kingsqueak:  Besides, gnome is growing on me ;)
[08:37] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: yeah it sounds like something went a bit off during the install
[08:38] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: when you do  'sudo apt-get update'  then  'sudo apt-get upgrade'  do you get all sorts of warnings or packages held back?
[08:38] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: when you installed kde did you just install  kubuntu-desktop ?
[08:39] <Firefishe> Kingsqueak:  Initially, yes, then I used aptitude to install the *rest* of kde ;) hee.
[08:40] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: hmm shouldn't have had dependency issues there
[08:40] <Firefishe> Kingsqueak:  I just chown'd my home directory the way you said.  Now let me try running gpg as a normal user.  Thanks for the sudo -i, I'm going to use it regularly now. :)
[08:40] <noodles12> Is there a linux program that can easily help make slide shows with pictures/video clips?
[08:40] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: the -i is handy as it puts you in /root as root, helps to keep root from tainting permissions in your home dir sometimes
[08:41] <Kingsqueak> I'm used to -s and that causes some trouble
[08:41] <bony> i just now saw the bug #66702 its about mysql since i upgrade my system from dapper to edgy mysql server is down. some one in the comments said that downgrading worked for him. how to downgrade mysql-5.0?
[08:41] <Kingsqueak> noodles12: slideshows to play how?
[08:41] <Firefishe> Kingsqueak:  I will rmbr this.  I'm used to just using sux (when I'm in a gui session).
[08:42] <bony> i have been following this bug since it was raised
[08:42] <noodles12> i was thinking of putting them on a cd/dvd or on an sd card to play in a digial picture frame
[08:42] <noodles12> the picture frame can play mp3's, mpg/avi/ or just load a bunch of jpg's into it's own slideshow thing
[08:42] <Kingsqueak> noodles12: there are DVD authoring packages, I forget the names offhand though
[08:43] <Kingsqueak> noodles12: kmediafactory may be one to look at
[08:43] <Zer0> brb
[08:43] <Kingsqueak> noodles12: I tried this but it was almost a year ago and most were very unstable packages, there may be some better ones by now
[08:44] <malt> Kingsqueak: you got cpanel on your site?
[08:44] <Firefishe> DARKGuy:  I usually just use apt-get to install things.  I'm getting that weird dependency issue with kde I mentioned.  Would you be so kind as to look at a pastebin of the bottom few lines of the output and critique it for me?
[08:44] <Zer0> ok I have it set with no security now however same issue
[08:44] <Kingsqueak> malt: heh I've told you a few times in /msg, no...my hosting provider has it but I never installed it
[08:44] <noodles12> Kingsqueak: thanks. dvd authoring, is that slideshows/movies to dvd?
[08:44] <Kingsqueak> noodles12: basically, yeah
[08:45] <malt> Kingsqueak: sorry i havent got no messages from you
[08:45] <Kingsqueak> noodles12: means laying out a DVD for playback
[08:45] <Kingsqueak> malt: the channel may be doing some weird blocking or something
[08:45] <Kingsqueak> this IRC server is all weird that way
[08:45] <noodles12> Kingsqueak: that is awesome. but also is there a slideshow program similar to that in ilife? because i'm not sure if i'm playing it in dvd or in that picture frame.
[08:45] <malt> your nick identifyed?
[08:45] <malt> to pm
[08:45] <malt> or talk in pm
[08:46] <Kingsqueak> should be, lemme check
[08:46] <Kingsqueak> weird, maybe they restarted services
[08:46] <Kingsqueak> it wasn't id'd
[08:47] <Zer0> Kingsqueak: Removed Security and reconfigured teh wireless device to just connect and still no dice
[08:48] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: hmm I'm out of guesses, it's likely a driver issue I would suspect
[08:48] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: no chance you installed another wireless manager like wifi-radar and that's running?  You can't have two going or they interfere
[08:49] <spar> hi all
[08:49] <hakan> hey guys!
[08:49] <Zer0> Kingsqueak: When I preform a ifconfig -a the device wlan0 device indicates UP BROADCAST MULTICAST
[08:49] <spar> hakan
[08:49] <hakan> i have a makefile to compile my project
[08:49] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: yeah but I'm not sure why it isn't otherwise working
[08:49] <Zer0> I attempted to install Network Manager however I never was able to make the MAKE file
[08:49] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: it's a package, apt-get would install that
[08:49] <hakan> but what it really does is to call a batch file with some commands in it
[08:50] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: 'sudo apt-get install network-manager network-manager-gnome'   though in Edgy it's already installed by default
[08:50] <hakan> when i call the batch file (called runme) as "source runme"
[08:50] <hakan> everything is allright
[08:50] <Zer0> Kingsqueak: Link encap:Ethernet ... on wlan0
[08:50] <hakan> but when i try "./runme" (it has ex. privs.)
[08:50] <hakan> it cannot
[08:50] <Zer0> What i the sit0 device?
[08:51] <hakan> have any idea?
[08:51] <Kingsqueak> Zer0: that's the IPV6 over IPV4 tunnel, it's normal
[08:54] <Zer0> Only thing i can see that looks wierd is that iwconfig indicates that wlan0 is Managed on 2.467GHZ  and teh Access PointL Invalid
[08:54] <Zer0> iwlist scan shows that it can see my network
[08:57] <abo> hakan, when you do "ls -l ./runme" what do you get?
[08:59] <xzk> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my new laptop - the LiveCD works fine, but it won't let me resize my WindowsXP Partition :( can any of you help me out?
[08:59] <moztav> lol frogfoot.net
[08:59] <moztav> xzk: you need an alternative livecd to resize your windows partition
[08:59] <moztav> gparted doesn't seem to have that functionality
[08:59] <xzk> yes it does
[09:00] <hakan> what is a GNU makeinfo
[09:00] <xzk> it just doesn't work
[09:00] <moztav> xzk: www.google.com ;)
[09:00] <hakan> i get the error
[09:00] <hakan> Unable to locate a version of GNU makeinfo in your PATH
[09:00] <hakan> GNU makeinfo is required to build the documentation.
[09:00] <xzk> moztav: where can i get an alternate livecd, the only ones i have are the ones i ordered from Ubuntu Conical
[09:01] <nashaw> if i have ide=nodma as a startup option in grub does it effect performance?
[09:02] <klasher>  goodnight, ;)
[09:02] <xzk> moztav: you still there?
[09:03] <xzk> can anyone else help me out.. looks like my helper went afk
[09:03] <link_36p> My nfs network shares dont work at all, where can i find help on this topic?
[09:03] <marlun> I've just installed Ubuntu and had to re-configure xserver-xorg to get the resolution I wanted, however now my keyboard doesn't work as it should. The keys I'm supposed to reach using "Alt Gr + key" doesn't work.
[09:04] <moztav> xzk: www.google.com
[09:04] <moztav> i have never needed to resize my windows partition
[09:04] <A[D] minS> IS That driver bcm4400-source - module source for Broadcom's bcm4400 ethernet driver. can work with 02:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)
[09:04] <moztav> however, look at knoppix or something
[09:04] <moztav> brb
[09:04] <xzk> instead of ubuntu - install knoppix?
[09:04] <A[D] minS> !bcm4401
[09:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bcm4401 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <xzk> !static pagefile
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about static pagefile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <xzk> !pagefile
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pagefile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <noodles12> i installed kmediafactory but was wondering why it doesnt' show up on the Applications menu
[09:05] <hakan> !makeinfo
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about makeinfo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <A[D] minS> !bcm4400-source
[09:06] <noodles12> running it from terminal works fine and i know i can add it to the applications menu, but i was just wondering why it wasn't automatically added?
[09:06] <ubotu> bcm4400-source: module source for Broadcom's bcm4400 ethernet driver. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.0.7-5 (edgy), package size 59 kB, installed size 100 kB
[09:09] <pibarnas> Could anyone make wmv9 files work on Ubuntu Edgy amd64?!?
[09:10] <A[D] minS> after i installed bcm4400-source , is there something else i have to do ?
[09:10] <nashaw> i have to use ide=nodma as a start up otion in grub for ubuntu to load, does any body know what this means or does?
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> nashaw: disables dma (direct memory access), which makes disk read/write operations slow.
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> I think its direct memory addressing, not access. Not sure.
[09:12] <nashaw> so doing ide=nodma could be what is making ubuntu slow for me?
[09:12] <fyrestrtr> nashaw: most likely, yes.
[09:12] <fyrestrtr> nashaw: but its strange that dma for your hardware is not compatible. Is it a very old machine?
[09:14] <nashaw> no it is not an old machine
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> what chipset is your motherboard?
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> what are the specs? how much ram? how much swap?
[09:15] <JAMMAN2110> hmm
[09:15] <nashaw> i got amd x2 4200, 2 gigs of ram
[09:15] <nashaw> the othere stuff not sure
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> nashaw: did the desktop cd work okay for you?
[09:19] <JAMMAN2110> I was just curious, does anyone here have any points i should mention other than sticking it to MS?
[09:19] <nashaw> no, unless i used ide=nodma
[09:19] <nashaw> i have the same problem with kubuntu as well
[09:19] <JAMMAN2110> well guess not
[09:19] <JAMMAN2110> Night all!
[09:19] <JAMMAN2110> :)
[09:22] <nashaw> also, i need not need it to boot ubuntu 6.06 with the 386 kernel
[09:23] <link_36p> anyone know why my samba shares arent working?
[09:23] <nashaw> but i wanted to take advantage of the dual core so I went with a smp kernel and it did not work(except with ide=nodma)
[09:24] <Sasch> can help me with ubuntu mdadm ??
[09:25] <DARKGuy> Hm, anybody knows if I can set a different DPI for another display set in xorg.conf ?
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> nashaw: what kind of disks do you have? Are they SATA?
[09:26] <Casanova> I had a power cut and now I am not able to boot into X
[09:26] <Casanova> the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is intact
[09:26] <Casanova> does any one have any clues?
[09:26] <Firefishe> I'm trying to install all of kde using 'apt-get install kde*' as root.  I receive the following error: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/K2pUJx75.html
[09:26] <nashaw> the one with ubuntu on it is not..
[09:27] <nashaw> maybe this is the problem.. maybe i should install ubuntu onto the sata disk
[09:27] <DARKGuy> Casanova: What does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[09:27] <Casanova> DARKGuy: 1 minute.. let me check
[09:27] <DARKGuy> Casanova: use www.pastebin.ca for pasting the log
[09:28] <Comatose> is kino a very beginner friendly video editting tool for ubuntu?
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> Firefishe: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop might work better.
[09:29] <Casanova> DARKGuy: http://prashblog.com/files/Xorg.0.log
[09:29] <Casanova> DARKGuy: sorry I am on console now.. so i cant cut and pastebin :(
[09:29] <DARKGuy> Casanova: Whoops, forgot about that xD it's okay, let me check ;)
[09:29] <Casanova> thanks :)
[09:30] <Casanova> DARKGuy: I have a 865 Intel motherboard by the way
[09:31] <Storkme> how come if i use a command to mount a samba fs it works fine but if i put it in /etc/fstab it gives me an error when i log in to X... the error is 'unable to initialize HAL!' (using ubuntu) and i need to comment out the line in /etc/fstab and reboot in order to log in... the line in /etc/fstab is as follows: //<IP_ADDRESS>/Group /media/debsrv      smbfs   username=alex,password=XXXXXX,user,auto 0 0
[09:31] <DARKGuy> Casanova: I see... no errors either - not one of those that say that can't start the X server oO...
[09:32] <Firefishe> fyrestrtr:  well, here's the rub:  I could do that, but since I already have all the .deb files cached, all it does is install kubuntu-desktop, kdm, and kubuntu-default-desktop or something like that.  The dependency problems remain.
[09:32] <Casanova> DARKGuy: its really odd.. i mean i couldnt shutdown properly once (due to the power cut) and X stops working :|
[09:32] <corevette> how do i find my second hard drive?
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> corevette: disk manager / gparted will help you.
[09:33] <DARKGuy> Casanova: Weird... what's the Driver parameter in the Device section of your xorg.conf ?
[09:34] <DARKGuy> Casanova: I think that maybe using a generic one might give you some X where you can debug the problem?
[09:34] <Casanova> DARKGuy: wtf!!! xserver-xorg was gone mysteriously :o
[09:34] <DARKGuy> Casanova: wtf oO
[09:34] <Sasch> can help me with ubuntu mdadm ??
[09:34] <Casanova> DARKGuy: whew works now :-) I removed xserver-xorg-vmware ... could that be a  reason?
[09:35] <corevette> fyrestrtr where is the disk manager
[09:35] <Casanova> brb on Xchat :-)
[09:35] <DARKGuy> Casanova: Maybe, that was weird because the log was correct and no errors there oO
[09:36] <barata> hallo, what quickcam WORKS with linux?
[09:36] <barata> is logitech okey?
[09:37] <Kingsqueak> barata: I just bough a cheap Logitech Quickcam Messenger, it works if you install the gspca driver
[09:37] <barata> Kingsqueak, what's the model? Logitech has a sale
[09:37] <DARKGuy> Casanova: welcome back :P
[09:37] <user__> the question is, does it work correctly?
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> !webcam
[09:37] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:37] <user__> i.e in features etc..
[09:37] <Firefishe> Kingsqueak:  Could you take a look at this for me: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/K2pUJx75.html
[09:37] <Casanova> DARKGuy: thank you :-) GNOME has never felt so good
[09:37] <gimmulf_> How do i wget all .bmp images from a certain adress?
[09:37] <barata> thanks fhrestrtr
[09:37] <DARKGuy> Casanova: Hehe, it -is- good too ;)
[09:38] <Firefishe> Kingsqueak:  It's when I do an 'apt-get install kde*'
[09:38] <DARKGuy> Casanova: Glad you got back into X =)
[09:38] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: ah, if you remove the kerberos stuff that will go away
[09:38] <Kingsqueak> heimdal-kdc
[09:39] <Kingsqueak> unless you have some reason to need that, don't install a kdc
[09:39] <Kingsqueak> barata: one sec I'll look it up
[09:39] <corevette> is it normally for flash to have no sound like on google video/you tube
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> gimmulf_: there is an example that shows exactly how to do that in the wget manual page.
[09:39] <Firefishe> Kingsqueak:  Ahhh...so just do something akin to 'apt-get remove kerberos?
[09:40] <Firefishe> !kerberos
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kerberos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <Kingsqueak> barata: ah, it's not listed, likely it's the quickcam 'chat' but I don't want to tell you that and have it not work, the drivers are very specific
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> Firefishe: believe me, if you need kerberos, you will know what it is for ;) If you don't know what it is, you don't need it.
[09:40] <Kingsqueak> barata: I got this one for $29 from a Target store
[09:40] <avalon> I've got an XFS drive and a EXT3 drive. My XFS is my storage device and my EXT drive is my primary drives. Problem is my storage drive and my regular drive are both nearly full, so I need to do some housecleaning. I started on my EXT drive and tried to go on to the XFS drive. Neither of them actually remove files though. They'll show the files getting deleted, be really slow with the progress screen, and then they'll appaer in the trashcan. I'll empty it
[09:40] <avalon> and still have the same folder on the hard drive full. I went through console and tried, and even KDE su ed in Konqueror but all have the same effect. The files are read write access to everyone. What's wrong?
[09:41] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: apt-get remove heimdal-kdc
[09:41] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: then try the update/upgrade again
[09:41] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: also apt-get remove kerberos4kth-kdc
[09:42] <Firefishe> Kingsqueak: Update before installing kde? (It's currently uninstalled)
[09:42] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: get those two packages removed, then try installing kde again
[09:42] <Firefishe> Kingsqueak:  but after removing of those other files?
[09:42] <Firefishe> k
[09:42] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: update pulls down the index files, if you've done it recently you're probably current with that
[09:42] <barata> okey Kingsqueak .... I'm in SF, there is no Target around here
[09:42] <Firefishe> then update after installing kde?
[09:42] <barata> but CompUSA has a sale right now
[09:43] <Firefishe> Kingsqueak:  Any problem with having multiverse/backports enabled?
[09:43] <dawkirst> Hi. Can I open CHM documents in Ubuntu?
[09:43] <Kingsqueak> barata: I would read up on the usb cams shown as supported and buy one that is an exact match, I thought they were more universally supported and found they aren't and just got lucky with mine
[09:43] <barata> Kingsqueak: what app do you use with that?
[09:43] <barata> gnome-conference?
[09:44] <Kingsqueak> barata: works with Ekiga and most anything else I've tried it with
[09:44] <Kingsqueak> barata: basically they either work or not and the apps will find them if they work
[09:44] <barata> I know Kingsqueak, I just do NOT want to buy an incompatible hardware and get all the headache down the road
[09:44] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: no problem, it's handy
[09:44] <barata> I'm installing ekiga now
[09:45] <barata> who knows it has a list of compatible hardware
[09:47] <Firefishe> Kingsqueak:  I just did apt-get remove on heimdal-kdc and kerberos4kth-kdc and it says they're not installed.
[09:48] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: o.k. somewhere, maybe in aptitude or synaptic they are selected to install, unselect them
[09:48] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: however you are doing the install command
[09:48] <Firefishe> Kingsqueak:  and that means?
[09:49] <Firefishe> Kingsqueak:  I'll check synaptic et al
[09:49] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: whatever you are doing to do the kde install, just don't ask to install those two kerberos packages for the kdcs and it should work
[09:49] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: a kdc is a kerberos authentication server...likely you don't want/need that
[09:50] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: you may be asking for some whacky user database something or other that is bringing in those kdc packages, something to look for
[09:51] <Firefishe> I'm doing an 'apt-get install kde*' to get each and every kde file there is (and I have them all, pretty much).  Is there any way to eliminate just those two files on the command line in the apt-get syntax?
[09:52] <barata> all right folk, this thing works!
[09:52] <barata> see review: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Quickcam-Notebooks-Deluxe-camera/dp/B0009J5B9M
[09:52] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: lol, I would say slow down a bit, and use synaptic or aptitude and just pick what you want instead
[09:52] <barata> CompUSA has this tiny little toy for only $59
[09:52] <barata> not bad ....:)
[09:53] <A[D] minS> sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware bcmwl5.sys
[09:53] <A[D] minS> Sorry, the input file is either wrong or not supported by bcm43xx-fwcutter.
[09:53] <A[D] minS> I can't find the MD5sum 114234fafec7060392195170e1c4d45e :(
[09:53] <A[D] minS> any idea?
[09:56] <phpnuborn> how do i stop the gui from automatically loading at bootup?
[09:56] <Firefishe> Kingsqueak:  Hee, I understand.  I've been around linux for a bit now.  I run Debian 3.1 on another machine.  I already have all of the packages I need for a full kde install with the works.  I just need to work around these specific dependencies.
[09:56] <dogfood2006_> phpnuborn: you have to disable the splash screen
[09:57] <Kingsqueak> Firefishe: yeah you found some dusty corner there with one of the apps
[09:57] <dogfood2006_> phpnuborn: go to /boot/grub/menu.lst vi into it and remove any instance of 'splash' in that flat file, save the file and restart
[09:57] <dogfood2006_> you should be home free
[09:57] <Firefishe> Kingsqueak:   yes, well, I usually just use aptitude.  It's just nice to see what apt-get gives you on that nice CLI ;)
[09:57] <phpnuborn> no.. the xfce gui
[09:57] <Firefishe> I mean synaptic
[09:58] <dogfood2006_> I've never used xfce, are you running xubuntu
[09:58] <phpnuborn> yes..
[09:58] <dogfood2006_> How is it by the way? Is it faster?
[09:58] <dogfood2006_> Why did you choose to run xubuntu?
[09:58] <phpnuborn> under vmware's vmserver
[09:58] <dogfood2006_> Do you pay for that?
[09:59] <Kingsqueak> xubuntu uses a bit less memory than Gnome of the regular Ubuntu
[09:59] <phpnuborn> it was part of the vm application i downloaded
[09:59] <Kingsqueak> it doesn't have all the glitz, but it's a very nice setup all the same
[09:59] <phpnuborn> no.. vmplayer and vmserver are free
[09:59] <dogfood2006_> Cool I have to check those out.
[09:59] <avalon> does mono allow me to run .net applications in Ubuntu?
[09:59] <dogfood2006_> So you have to make a vmware image of xubuntu somehow to load it into memory correct?
[10:00] <phpnuborn> so the way this virtual machine application comes.. it like a pre-installed distro
[10:01] <codeshepherd> I am able to mount my CD.. but when i try to copy files from it.. (only large files) I get the Input/Output error .. dmesg reports the following .. http://pastebin.ca/259273
[10:01] <phpnuborn> once you create a 'virtual machine' with vmserver.. you install your distro
[10:02] <dogfood2006_> That is sweet, do I need the server version for that?
[10:02] <phpnuborn> or you download a distro already created..
[10:02] <phpnuborn> vmserver isn't very complex to install
[10:03] <barata> Kingsqueak: I'm not very much into webcaming ... anyway ... what app other than ekiga will work with it?
[10:03] <Firefishe> When doing 'apt-get install filename' is there a way to indicate that certain files are not to be installed?
[10:03] <Kingsqueak> barata: camorama just for taking pics
[10:03] <barata> does skype work with that too?
[10:03] <Kingsqueak> barata: there are some other messengers too, gizmo maybe and hmm another one
[10:03] <Firefishe> Like in 'apt-get install kde* <nix this file>
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> codeshepherd: looks like a bad disc.
[10:03] <Kingsqueak> skype doesn't do video, not the linux client at least
[10:04] <barata> do you pay for ekiga Kingsqueak?
[10:04] <avalon> is it even possible to run an MS.net exe file in linux through wine?
[10:04] <Kingsqueak> barata: nah it's free
[10:04] <barata> okey
[10:04] <Kingsqueak> barata: I don't use it heavily, it was mostly to play around
[10:04] <phpnuborn> so ignoring the vm stuff which doesn't apply here..   how do i stop a whatever GUI from auto-loading in xubuntu/unbuntu ?
[10:04] <barata> me too
[10:04] <Kingsqueak> I was playing with skype, Ekiga, wengophone, gizmo, xten softphone, linphone etc
[10:05] <fyrestrtr> phpnuborn: you could be more specific than 'whatever GUI'
[10:06] <oppinito> how do i "restart x3"?
[10:06] <oppinito> er, restart x
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> oppinito: ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:06] <Bubuzissimo> hi I'm installing ubunto for the first time
[10:06] <dogfood2006_> It's called 'bouncing' the X, paraphrase it that way, you will sound much cooler :-D
[10:06] <Bubuzissimo> which should be the swap and root file systems?
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> oppinito: or from a terminal (ctrl+alt+f1) sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> Bubuzissimo: just let it automatically partition for you, it will take care of it.
[10:07] <Bubuzissimo> just run the install?
[10:07] <dogfood2006_> fyrestrtr: that is a long way of doing it, but now I know what dm is i guess
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> dogfood2006_: what is the short way?
[10:08] <dogfood2006_> starting X? ctrl alt backspace
[10:08] <n1gke> dogfood2006_, Yeh
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> 12:06 < oppinito> er, restart x
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> 12:06 < fyrestrtr> oppinito: ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:09] <dogfood2006_> fyrestrtr: that's what you asked me right?
[10:09] <MikeyMike> how do you view disk usage
[10:09] <MikeyMike> in console
[10:10] <MikeyMike> i always forget this one
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> MikeyMike: df -h
[10:10] <MikeyMike> YESSSSSSS
[10:10] <MikeyMike> df -h
[10:10] <MikeyMike> thank you :D
[10:10] <kandinski> I have updated to edgy and my computer (toshiba m200) does not recover well from suspend now: X doesn't draw when I come out of suspend. Any fix?
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> df = disk free
[10:10] <MikeyMike> gotcah
[10:10] <MikeyMike> i wont forget now.......
[10:10] <dogfood2006_> MikeyMike relax bro
[10:10] <MikeyMike> dogfood2006_, i am relaxed
[10:10] <MikeyMike> :)
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> kandinski: do you have an ati video card?
[10:10] <kandinski> fyrestrtr: nvidia card
[10:10] <dogfood2006_> Ok, you were starting to cover up my screen there
[10:11] <phpnuborn> don't all gui's get started with startx ?   so what does it matter which gui i'm using.. aren't they all treated the same.. in some standard way?
[10:11] <MikeyMike> dogfood2006_, it will clear up soon :)
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> kandinski: you might want to install the drivers for it, it helps with this kind of stuff.
[10:11] <dogfood2006_> Good to know, thanks for the consolence
[10:11] <kandinski> fyrestrtr: thanks
[10:11] <MikeyMike> dogfood2006_, of course :) :)
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> phpnuborn: no, a login manager starts different sessions. startx is just a script to start a minimal WM.
[10:12] <phpnuborn> so if a gui starts up generic.. shouldn't stoping them from auto-loading at boot time be generic?
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> phpnuborn: sure, just change the run level, or remove the login manager from your startup scripts.
[10:13] <phpnuborn> ok.. i see *nix world is still rough around the edges..
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> ok.. I see you are new to the *nix world.
[10:15] <dogfood2006_> If I run vmwareserver, I can have more than one distribution virtualized correct?
[10:15] <osfameron> fyrestrtr: a name like "phpnuborn" and you think he's trying to hide that? ;-)
[10:16] <fredl> dogfood2006_, yes.
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> dogfood2006_: yes, as long as you have the diskspace for it.
[10:16] <fredl> and the memory :)
[10:16] <BlackHawk> moin
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> you can have as many as you like -- just how many you run at once makes the difference ;)
[10:16] <phpnuborn> in my dos/win 3.1 days..  it was a lot more simple..  win  started it.. file>exit    exited it.. 1 simple edit to a standard file called autoexec.bat.. you were done..  login scripts.. i have to track more than 1 start up file?   oh yea.. *nix is so much better..
[10:16] <dogfood2006_>  I dont have to run all of them simultaneously
[10:17] <dogfood2006_> I'd like to try out xubuntu, edubuntu, fedora, and rhel
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> phpnuborn: do you have a question, or are you just ranting? :)
[10:17] <fredl> dogfood2006_, in that case vmware is probably perfect for what you're trying to do.
[10:17] <dogfood2006_> Cool beans!
[10:17] <fredl> dogfood2006_, an interesting thing to remember btw is that for a lot of 'appliances' VMware has images readily available.
[10:18] <phpnuborn> and what was that file name i need to edit?
[10:18] <Firefishe> How does one change the startup splash screen?  ie, from ubuntu to kubuntu and back again? ;)P
[10:18] <Firefishe> ;) rather
[10:18] <dogfood2006_> Where do I get these images?
[10:18] <fredl> such an appliance image you just download, enable in vmware, and *click* you have it up and running.
[10:18] <phpnuborn> to stop xfec loading?
[10:18] <Bubuzissimo> one question please
[10:18] <fredl> dogfood2006_, vam.vmware.com
[10:18] <neobyte420> hey room
[10:18] <phpnuborn> dogfood2006_, go to www.vmware.com
[10:19] <Bubuzissimo> should swap be primary partition or extended?
[10:19] <neobyte420> i need some networking help
[10:19] <fredl> (vam = virtual appliance marketplace)
[10:19] <dogfood2006_> I'm assuming I'll have to get my networking bridged as well correct? I'll have to create a network bridge perhaps?
[10:19] <neobyte420> is there anyone here that knows about the firestarter firewall?
[10:19] <phpnuborn> they have menu for free vm products
[10:19] <neobyte420> im trying to share my internet connection to my lan...but it keeps failing to start
[10:20] <fredl> dogfood2006_, that's all in vmware. You can either set up a virtual network within the vmware env. or make it bridge to a real network IP
[10:20] <neobyte420> can someone plz help
[10:20] <Spee_Der> !ask
[10:20] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:20] <neobyte420> I set my eth1 ip to a static
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> Bubuzissimo: you can only have 4 primary partitions. Make it a primary.
[10:20] <neobyte420> im not sure if im using the right ip for the gateway though
[10:21] <Spee_Der> !pastbin | neobyte420
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <Spee_Der> !pastebin | neobyte420
[10:21] <ubotu> neobyte420: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:22] <Spee_Der> neobyte420: Put it there so people can look at it for you and possibly advise.
[10:22] <Spee_Der> neobyte420: Then come here and post the url so we can find it.
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> neobyte420: firestarter can help you with that.
[10:22] <neobyte420> Spee_Der, im using firestater...
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> !info firestarter
[10:22] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 383 kB, installed size 1884 kB
[10:22] <holy_cow> !ati
[10:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:23] <neobyte420> fyrestrtr, do you know about how i can solve my issue
[10:23] <neobyte420> maybe i just need to upgrade
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> neobyte420: what is the problem exactly?
[10:23] <barata> anybody uses "LaCie LightScribe Labeler for Linux"???
[10:23] <eepberries> alright. i've messed up my xserv configuration and now it isn't starting up
[10:24] <eepberries> how can i fix it?
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> eepberries: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:24] <eepberries> what will this do?
[10:24] <Spee_Der> eepberries: You mean you fouled your xorg.conf ?
[10:24] <user__> Why can't I add a user with a CAPITAL Letter. Joe
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> eepberries: reconfigure it :)
[10:24] <eepberries> spee yeah i think. i was adding wacom support
[10:24] <Lynoure> !anybody | barata
[10:24] <ubotu> barata: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:24] <Spee_Der> eepberries: In terminal mode do this.
[10:24] <eepberries> and then when i restarted xserv, it wouldn't load right
[10:24] <dogfood2006_> Anyone use fedora 6 in here?
[10:25] <Spee_Der> eepberries: cd /etc/X11
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> dogfood2006_: probably lots of folk in #fedora do.
[10:25] <eepberries> how do i get it in terminal mode?
[10:25] <neobyte420> fyrestrtr, when i go to preferences to nettwork settings there is a create new DHVP configuration option...i select it and accept but it gives me a error
[10:25] <Spee_Der> eepberries: sudo cp xorg.conf.backup xorg.conf
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> neobyte420: what error?
[10:25] <Spee_Der> eepberries: The use the ctrl+alt+backspace to resart x, if you do have a xorg.conf.backup that is.
[10:25] <eepberries> when i restarted my computer, a blue screen asks me if i want to see the error log or something, then after that i can't do anything
[10:26] <dogfood2006_> Yeah, I might take a gander there, I'd be interested in getting an ubuntu users' opinion on fedora, advantages, disadvantages, etc..
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> eepberries: what was the last thing you did before you computer restarted?
[10:26] <eepberries> it's a black screen that ends with "running local boot scripts"
[10:26] <Spee_Der> Right, it dumps you to terminal mode so you can log in
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> dogfood2006_: #ubuntu-offtopic for that.
[10:26] <eepberries> spee it doesn't let me enter anything in
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> eepberries: you have to login
[10:26] <dogfood2006_> fyrestrtr, good call
[10:26] <neobyte420> it tells me that it fail to start the firewall...a unkown error occurred...and that i should check my network device settings amd make sure my internet connection is active
[10:26] <eepberries> how do i do that
[10:26] <Spee_Der> you hvae to login with user name then root password
[10:26] <eepberries> but i never get a chance to log in
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> Spee_Der: what?
[10:26] <Spee_Der> once there you can cd /etc/X11
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> eepberries: hit ctrl+alt+f2 -- you should get a login prompt. Type your username, hit enter, type your password, hit enter.
[10:27] <eepberries> alright
[10:27] <neobyte420> fyrestrtr, any ideas on how to get this up and running?
[10:27] <Spee_Der> fyrestrtr: I've been going through that all weekend with trying to add 2nd monitor to dual head video card, finally got it working.
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> neobyte420: not sure to be honest, I always did it "manually"
[10:27] <josh_> hi, does anyone know what tuner i can use to listen to a radio station (listen.pls)
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> josh_: sudo aptitude -r install streamtuner
[10:28] <Spee_Der> josh_: Try xmms ?
[10:28] <neobyte420> i had it working manually...but i want to use firestarter this time
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> neobyte420: ... why? if it works, leave it be.
[10:28] <neobyte420> could it just be a bug in the software?
[10:28] <Spee_Der> josh_: I use streamtuner then select my ststion and use xmms to play.
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> neobyte420: maybe. You'd have to check the website or LP
[10:29] <josh_> thanks ;)
[10:29] <neobyte420> becasue i want to beable to use my bittorrent
[10:29] <neobyte420> i was getting a NAT error
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> josh_: when you type sudo aptitude -r install streamtuner, it will install streamtuner (a browser for online radios) and xmms and another software for recording online radio.
[10:29] <eepberries> alright so i've done cd /etc/X11 now what?
[10:30] <josh_> ok i already had streamtuner
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> neobyte420: that just means your ports aren't forwarded properly.
[10:30] <neobyte420> so i was going to use the firestarter firewall in steed of the manual settings to allow a port through
[10:30] <Bubuzissimo> one last question
[10:30] <josh_> thanks fyrestrtr ! :)
[10:30] <neobyte420> i dont know port forwarding to well yet
[10:30] <Spee_Der> eepberries: do a ls and see if you have a file named xorg.conf.backup
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> neobyte420: if you want my suggestion, use shorewall :)
[10:30] <Bubuzissimo> how do I name the partitions in gparted?
[10:30] <Bubuzissimo> do I need to name them or I just create the partitions and make APLLY?
[10:30] <neobyte420> does shorewall have a dhcp setting to share out the internet over my lan?
[10:31] <eepberries> no there's only an xorg.conf, no xorg.conf.backup
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> Bubuzissimo: you don't name partitions (unless they are LVM volumes). Create then, hit apply, then mount them somewhere.
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> neobyte420: yes, it can do that, but you need to setup a dhcp server first.
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> neobyte420: also, just a warning -- there is no gui for shorewall, its all command line and text files.
[10:31] <neobyte420> :(
[10:31] <Spee_Der> eepberries: Ok. What did you do to mess the xorg.conf up ? You need to edit that file in order for X to start properly.
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> neobyte420: but its dead easy to setup :)
[10:32] <neobyte420> will u help me plz fyrestrtr
[10:32] <eepberries> well, i was followin the tutorial for how to add wacom tools
[10:32] <neobyte420> ill get it
[10:32] <eepberries> let me look up what it said to do specifically
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> neobyte420: there are sample configurations on the shorewall.net website. Probably one that fits your situation perfectly.
[10:32] <Spee_Der> eepberries:While you are in /etc/X11 do a dir and see how many xorg.XXX.XXXXXXX files you might have
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> eepberries: ls xorg.*
[10:33] <eepberries> there's only the xorg.conf file
[10:33] <Spee_Der> ok
[10:33] <Spee_Der> fyrestrtr: tell eep how to do the reconfigure thingy please.
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> eepberries: just run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -- it will backup the file you have, create a new one, and then you can login to gnome.
[10:33] <Spee_Der> I can't remember not awake enough yet
[10:34] <eepberries> alright
[10:34] <Spee_Der> fyrestrtr: thanks
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> :)
[10:34] <eepberries> actually i want to write down the errors it was giving first
[10:34] <Spee_Der> eepberries: Smart move.
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> eepberries: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> eepberries: that will give you errors
[10:34] <eepberries> alright
[10:35] <josh_> ok thanks, now i can listen to shoutcast servers that are predefined, how do i import a custom one? whenever i try, it keeps on trying to open a file or something
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> josh_: in streamtuner?
[10:36] <hazarath> Ok, tried to enable my Nvidia driver, says my X config has been altered... help?
[10:36] <josh_> fyrestrtr: yes, but it plays in xmss
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> josh_: yes, since streamtuner is not a player, just a browser/search engine.
[10:36] <uksprout> hi all
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> hazarath: read the wiki :)
[10:37] <josh_> ah, so how do i play a custom stream?
[10:37] <josh_> xmms?
[10:37] <neobyte420> ty fyrestrtr for the link..im reading up on it more
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> johns^: just add the url there, or open it directly in xmms.
[10:37] <hazarath> fyrestrtr: Er... sorry, long day... got the link? :/
[10:37] <dogfood2006_> Why does ubuntu use partition #5 as it's default swap parition?
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> !nvidia | hazarath
[10:37] <ubotu> hazarath: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:37] <dogfood2006_> It uses hda1 for it's primary, why not use hda2 for swap?
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> dogfood2006_: something you should ask in LP :)
[10:38] <dogfood2006_> Linux programmer?
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> launchpad -- the ubuntu bug tracker.
[10:38] <eepberries> oh man this reconfigure utility is complicated
[10:39] <dogfood2006_> I see, thanks.
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> eepberries: just answer the questions as best as you can, its quite liberal. Most of the time, you can just accept the default.
[10:40] <dogfood2006_> !wireless
[10:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:40] <phpnuborn> ctrl-alt-f1, then   sudo gdm stop   to stop the gui once started?
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:41] <uksprout> I am having some install probs:  I am getting "checking for SDL_Init in -lSDL... no
[10:41] <uksprout> " next line is "configure: error: SDL is required
[10:41] <uksprout> " I have searched on Ubuntu.org but cannot find a reference
[10:41] <eepberries> alright so now it's back to the command prompt. do i have to restart the computer?
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> phpnuborn: if you want to stop it permanently, you have two options. Either change the default run level (by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst) or take the display manager out of your startup scripts, by reading the man page for update-rc.d
[10:41] <phpnuborn> oh yea.. *nix can't figure out paths on its own..  thx for the reminder
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> uksprout: what are you installing?
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> eepberries: no, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:42] <Spee_Der> eepberries: no
[10:43] <hazarath> fyrestrtr: Did it step by step, says my X configuration has been altered.
[10:43] <uppal_> hello everyone
[10:43] <uppal_> can someone please help me
[10:43] <uppal_> i cannot get direct rendering to work
[10:43] <Bubuzissimo> thnks fyrestrtr
[10:43] <tom47> does anyone know why there is an edgy-proposed repository
[10:43] <uksprout> fyrestrtr: it is a game called orbital_eunuchs_sniper-1.30 this time, I have also tried a number of other programs and one or two are complaining of a missing cpp or that cpp fails sanity check
[10:43] <uppal_> sudo cp /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc/fglrx.ko <-- this fails
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> hazarath: easy way to solve this is to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, change 'nv' to 'nvidia' and save it.
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> !compile | uksprout
[10:44] <ubotu> uksprout: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:44] <hazarath> fyrestrtr: Er... sorry, how? x.x
[10:44] <tom47> !edgy-proposed
[10:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edgy-proposed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:44] <hazarath> fyrestrtr: Tried it once, apperntly it didn't save right.
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> hazarath: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:44] <Vich> my ubuntu splash screen colours are weird
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> hazarath: you have to open it with sudo because your normal user doesn't have rights to write to that file.
[10:45] <Vich> the ubuntu text is orange instead of white
[10:45] <uksprout> fyrestrtr: ok thanks will go read
[10:45] <Vich> and it's rather fuzzy
[10:45] <Vich> also, the major problem
[10:45] <Vich> the text is black instead of blue
[10:45] <Vich> or at least I'm assuming so since I can't read any of it
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> Vich: are you on edgy or dapper?
[10:45] <Vich> edgy
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> Vich: what text are you talking about?
[10:45] <Link9618> Is safe for me to use the "sudo" command while online?
[10:45] <hazarath> fyrestrtr: In said file: it says Driver: "nvidia'
[10:46] <Vich> well, on my other ubuntu system
[10:46] <hazarath> Not 'nv'
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> hazarath: it should say Driver "nvidia"
[10:46] <Link9618> And is it safe for me to open a program with the sudo command at leave it open while online?
[10:46] <Vich> I recall blue text, like press enter to restart, etc
[10:46] <hazarath> fyrestrtr: Ok, so, why is it not working? :s
[10:46] <Vich> I suppose it doesn't show often
[10:46] <Vich> but when it does, I'd like to read it
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> hazarath: for that you'll have to check the X log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[10:46] <hazarath> fyr "nvidia" rather
[10:47] <Link9618> is it?
[10:47] <eepberries> alright so i did sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start and it's still at the terminal view
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> Link9618: depends on the program
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> eepberries: hit ctrl+alt+f7
[10:48] <Link9618> How do I know?
[10:48] <eepberries> alright. it says the x server is now disabled and to disable it when configured
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> eepberries: you should see a blinking cursor, and then it should bring the logon screen (sometimes, it takes a bit). If it doesn't do that, then hit ctrl+alt+f2 and hit /etc/init.d/gdm stop -- and then check the log file for any error messages (grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[10:49] <psicho> I cant find opera on synaptic even after i'd enabled the additional repos- used to be there in 6.01. Do i need additional repos to install opera?
[10:49] <hazarath> fyrestrtr: What am I looking for? I see no error status... [I.E. (EE)]
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> eepberries: hit cltr+alt+f2, then type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> hazarath: pastebin it, or join #flood and paste the lines there.
[10:49] <tom47> does anyone know why -edgy-proposed exists as a repository?
[10:49] <hazarath> #flood
[10:49] <hazarath> ...
[10:50] <eepberries> fyre it looks like the reconfigure utility isn't actually saving anything
[10:50] <Spee_Der> fyrestrtr: Please send again the ee grep thing to see the error log, I forgot to write it down
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> psicho: the deb from the site works well.
[10:50] <eepberries> it's still giving the errors the same errors related to wacom stuff
[10:50] <psicho> OK, thanks.
[10:51] <Spee_Der> eepberries: When you edit the xorg.conf file, just put a # in front of the call for the wacom, to ignore it.
[10:51] <Spee_Der> eepberries: That's what I did.
[10:51] <dv5237> i got a 'Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950' in my notebook can i install a driver for it to get a better preformens in games ect?
[10:51] <eepberries> shouldn't the reconfigure thing overwrite it though? also, how can i edit the file?
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> Spee_Der: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> dv5237: sure
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> !915resolution | dv5237
[10:52] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[10:53] <Spee_Der> fyrestrtr: Many thanks
[10:53] <dv5237> fyrestrtr: but issnt that only for the resolution? and not a driver?
[10:54] <infest> fyrestrtr, me too have a same problem with my Intel 865G chipset
[10:55] <phpnuborn> some mentioned a package called  BUM ...  some kind boot manager.. anyone know about it?  i am thinking about installing it..
[10:55] <JNeverMind> id like to configure apt-get to install packs from the net because i dont have a cdrom drive anymore
[10:55] <Spee_Der> !bum
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> !info bum
[10:55] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[10:55] <ubotu> bum: graphical runlevel editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.7-1 (edgy), package size 80 kB, installed size 524 kB
[10:55] <eepberries> if i delete my xorg.conf file, will i be able to use the reconfigure utility to rewrite it?
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> for those wanting information on the intel driver, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Video
[10:56] <fyrestrtr> eepberries: yes, it will regenerate it.
[10:56] <Smotang> anyone know a linux solution to Ventrilo?
[10:56] <fyrestrtr> JNeverMind: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and put a # before the very first deb line.
[10:58] <JNeverMind> yay!
[10:59] <fyrestrtr> JNeverMind: now type sudo apt-get update
[10:59] <fyrestrtr> and it should start pulling from the web.
[11:01] <grounded> bye
[11:02] <Daviey> Hi guys, on boot-up, what is the first time i can call/run a program.  I have hoping i can do it during usplash, splash screen.  Any ideas?
[11:04] <kuja> Daviey: /etc/profile is a good place, I believe
[11:04] <Daviey> kuja, is that only run when the user logs in?
[11:05] <kuja> That's the global profile. It gets run once before anyone logs in
[11:05] <Daviey> kuja, i'm hoping to call the script earlier than that.  Thanks anyway
[11:06] <kuja> Daviey: You could, I just don't know how.
[11:06] <Daviey> kuja, cheers
[11:06] <kuja> Daviey: Just like the scripts in /etc/init.d, right?
[11:06] <fyrestrtr> Daviey: you can create the script, and just add it to a run level.
[11:07] <tanath> i have a wee problem. when i log in, it says "i have detected a gnome-panel already running and will now exit" or something to that effect.. only there's no gnome panel, and if i run it from the terminal, i get the same thing
[11:07] <kuja> Daviey: man update-rc.d
[11:07] <fyrestrtr> tanath: playing with XGL?
[11:07] <tanath> running edgy
[11:07] <tanath> fyrestrtr, no, beryl. was fine before though
[11:07] <eepberries> alright
[11:07] <Daviey> fyrestrtr, how can i add it to the run level?
[11:07] <dogfood2006_> Is there a shortcut to get a new terminal window up on ubuntu?
[11:07] <eepberries> i cannot figure out how to replace the broken xserver config file
[11:07] <dogfood2006_> shortcut key?
[11:07] <tanath> fyrestrtr, aiglx
[11:07] <kuja> Daviey: Read what I said :)
[11:08] <Daviey> kuja, cheers
[11:08] <brownie> hi
[11:08] <eepberries> i've tried deleting xorg.conf and usin gthe reconfigure utility, but it seems like the same problem keeps hapenning
[11:08] <eepberries> i keep getting the same errors
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> tanath: that sounds about right :) try your luck in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:08] <Daviey> kuja, i think that is what i want ;)
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> eepberries: what errors?
[11:08] <kuja> Daviey: =)
[11:08] <brownie> free internet anyone?
[11:09] <tanath> fyrestrtr, er, aiglx & xgl are two different things...
[11:09] <mr-russ> where can I find info on cross compiling packages for ubuntu?
[11:09] <eepberries> fyrestrtr: Failed to load module "wacom" (module requirement mismatch, 0)
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> tanath: its the same channel for both.
[11:09] <eepberries> followed by three instances of "No input driver matching 'wacom'"
[11:09] <tanath> i see
[11:09] <kuja> eepberries: I think it's okay to fail to load wacom :P
[11:09] <kuja> eepberries: Mine fails too, yet X always starts
[11:09] <eepberries> well it isn't starting anymore
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> eepberries: unless you have a wacom tablet, you can ignore those.
[11:09] <eepberries> yeah i do
[11:10] <fyrestrtr> eepberries: OH
[11:10] <eepberries> it worked before
[11:10] <eepberries> but then i tried installing the "wacom tools"
[11:11] <we2by> !video
[11:11] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[11:11] <we2by> !mp3
[11:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:11] <we2by> !flash
[11:11] <we2by> !flash
[11:11] <we2by> ?
[11:11] <kuja> we2by: You know you can message the bot too
[11:11] <fyrestrtr> !msgthebot | we2by
[11:11] <ubotu> we2by: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[11:11] <eepberries> so fyrestrtr do you know anything about it?
[11:11] <mdasilva> hello
[11:12] <dogfood2006_> Is there a keyboard shortcut to get a terminal window to open?
[11:12] <amileft> install Apache2.2.3 from source but httpd can not start up automatic
[11:12] <kuja> !automatix | we2by
[11:12] <ubotu> we2by: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:12] <we2by> kuja, nah, don't like automatix
[11:12] <kuja> Wow, not the exact message I was expecting from that factoid lol
[11:12] <kuja> I used automatix, and it worked great for me. It even worked better for azureus than the azureus in the Ubuntu repos :P
[11:13] <fyrestrtr> it breaks more things than it fixes, and its also not supported.
[11:13] <amileft> install Apache2.2.3 from source but httpd can not start up automatic. And aft google I can not find help so I come here trouble you.
[11:13] <kuja> Well, that's all good. I took the risk I guess.
[11:14] <kuja> fyrestrtr: I'd rather have something I don't care about break than something I do care about not work.
[11:15] <fyrestrtr> kuja: you'll care when you can't login to your box :) but hey, see !WorksForMe
[11:15] <Link9618> Which programs or type of programs will pose a security risk if I use the sudo command to open it?
[11:15] <kuja> fyrestrtr: Haven't had the issue, the only thing similar to that is that sudo broke. Fixed it with a single command :)
[11:16] <phpnuborn> anyone here use ubuntu/xubuntu with  vmware's vmserver?
[11:16] <tahorg_> Link9618: every program that you're not sure about.
[11:16] <tanath> no joy. i don't think it's a driver or X problem...
[11:16] <Link9618> well tha't all of them
[11:17] <Link9618> that's
[11:17] <tahorg_> Link9618: so you have your answer. "All of them"
[11:18] <eepberries> so can anyone figure out why xserver won't start anymore? this is exactly what i did before it stopped working https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WacomTabletIssue
[11:19] <fek> eeboy: startx in a console and watch auf for errors
[11:20] <fyrestrtr> eepberries: easiest way to get your server to start is to disable the wacom tablet device.
[11:20] <eepberries> how do i do that
[11:20] <drakeoutlaw> hi all can any bluetooth users help?
[11:22] <eepberries> fyrestrtr: how can i disable the wacom tablet?
[11:22] <fyrestrtr> eepberries: open up your xorg.conf , scroll down to the section "ServerLayout" put a # in front of the InputDevice for your wacom tablet, save the file, and restart X.
[11:22] <Dmole> Hi, anyone have an insight to "monitor Out of Range" problems?
[11:22] <eepberries> but how do i save it if i don't have permission to
[11:22] <fyrestrtr> Dmole: change you refresh rates.
[11:23] <kuja> eepberries: Remove wacom-tools and xserver-xorg-input-wacom and see what happens
[11:23] <fyrestrtr> eepberries: you open it with sudo
[11:23] <eepberries> kuja what would i enter into the terminal to do that
[11:23] <kuja> sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-input-wacom wacom-tools
[11:24] <phpnuborn> i am in text mode.. i have an error message want to cut and paste to a text file...  can i do that some how?
[11:25] <kuja> eepberries: Then from your command line reconfigure your X, by typing: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:25] <roh> phpnuborn, you should be able to just use the mouse...
[11:25] <phpnuborn> so basically i want to copy from the text screen and paste to a text file..
[11:25] <phpnuborn> ok.. i'll try
[11:25] <roh> phpnuborn: When you move the mouse, do you see a moving cursor?
[11:26] <roh> phpnuborn: Left-drag to select, right-click to paste.
[11:26] <fyrestrtr> middle click to paste also work.
[11:26] <Eons> i need some help with nvidia driver 1.0-9629, everytime i use any app that requires fullscreen, X crashes
[11:26] <bookmac> how do you install the java plugin? i already tried downloading it and ln -s
[11:26] <fyrestrtr> !java
[11:26] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:27] <kuja> bookmac: Install the sun-java5-jre then type: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:27] <drakeoutlaw> Please help me to set up  bluetooth to send and receive files from my mobile phone
[11:27] <kuja> Then select the number to the sun-java5-jre
[11:27] <fyrestrtr> drakeoutlaw: install gnome-bluetooth (sudo apt-get install gnome-bluetooth)
[11:28] <drakeoutlaw> fyrestrtr yes did that and can receive from phone to PC but how do I send to phone from PC?
[11:29] <roh> phpnuborn: If you're running a program and want to put its output into a file instead of on the screen, you don't even need a mouse
[11:29] <phpnuborn> all i get is the blinking underline cursor.. mouse has no functions..
[11:29] <eepberries> fyrestrtr: alright i don't see anything related to the wacom under ServerLayout in the xorg.conf. it mentions it elsewhere in the file though
[11:30] <kuja> eepberries: Did you do what I say? heh
[11:30] <bookmac> kuja> after typing what you said I got: There is only 1 program which provides java
[11:30] <bookmac> (/usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1). Nothing to configure.
[11:30] <eepberries> kuja yes
[11:30] <eepberries> it still isn't working
[11:30] <roh> phpnuborn: The mouse needs something called "gpm" to work in text mode -- I guess you don't hae it installed.
[11:30] <phpnuborn> oh.. yea..  redirect screen output to a file
[11:30] <Eons> drakeoutlaw: IIRC, you may use gnome-obex-server
[11:30] <infest> phpnuborn, are you trying to boot ubuntu, under vmware?
[11:31] <infest> phpnuborn, like ubuntu as a GuestOS
[11:31] <phpnuborn> xubuntu is booting just fine under vmware
[11:31] <Eons> drakeoutlaw: indeed, gnome-obex-server will let you receive files sent from other bluetooth devices
[11:32] <phpnuborn> i mean.. vmserver
[11:32] <infest> phpnuborn, On *phyisical hard drive" ?
[11:32] <phpnuborn> i think i got what i need
[11:32] <Eons> it will stay on your notify area as a blue antenna icon, and it will popup a window when a phone is sending something to ya
[11:32] <infest> can you post the link please, I'm trying to figure that out
[11:33] <eepberries> alright the error log file is still saying the error "could not open default font 'fixed'"
[11:33] <eepberries> uh, is this really a problem?
[11:33] <infest> phpnuborn, you need a bootable floppy or *.img to do so
[11:34] <tanath> i need some help. i can't get gnome-panel running. it's in my startup apps, but not in my current session. if i try to run it, it says it's detected one already running and exits
[11:34] <kuja> tanath: Did you try restarting X?
[11:34] <tanath> kuja, yep
[11:34] <eepberries> it's also saying "error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy"
[11:34] <tanath> kuja, it started when i logged out
[11:35] <misreckoning> I have ubuntu 6.06 and it works great, but on 6.10 it can't recognize my ethernet card :/
[11:36] <misreckoning> and can I upgrade my system to ubuntu 6.10 without reinstalling it ?
[11:36] <kuja> misreckoning: Just point your dapper repositories to edgy, yes
[11:36] <infest> misreckoning, don't try it
[11:36] <phpnuborn> ok.. i just tried     apt-get install bum  > errmsg.txt      but the error messages are going to  stderr i think.. so how would i redirect stderr to a file?
[11:37] <tanath> misreckoning, i upgraded with dist-upgraded months ago, with minimal probs, but others have had probs
[11:37] <infest> as if now, they 're fixing it
[11:37] <drakeoutlaw> Eons: Isn't obex-server installed when gnome bluetooth is installsed?
[11:38] <Eons> drakeoutlaw: uhm, i don't know
[11:38] <tanath> misreckoning, i think you just need to make sure you have at least, ubuntu-minimal installed
[11:38] <Eons> wait a minute, i'll do a check right now
[11:38] <drakeoutlaw> Eons: is there a GUI that will show the mobile's filesystem?
[11:39] <tanath> although it's not minimal enough for me :p
[11:39] <Eons> drakeoutlaw: this depends on your phone
[11:39] <Eons> mine doesn't support this feature, and I have no idea how to do it
[11:39] <drakeoutlaw> Eons: Nokia 6230
[11:39] <J_P> hi all
[11:39] <Eons> I'm pretty sure that there are a lot of howtos on the forum
[11:39] <misreckoning> tanath: what is ubuntu minimal?
[11:40] <misreckoning> infest: why not?
[11:40] <Eons> drakeoutlaw: yes, gnome-obex-server is in gnome-bluetooth
[11:40] <tanath> misreckoning, a meta-package that makes sure you have the basic necessities of ubuntu. i think the default is ubuntu-desktop which has more
[11:40] <drakeoutlaw> Eons: so obex-server will require command line to send file?
[11:40] <tanath> misreckoning, you'd have it unless you removed it
[11:41] <Werdnum> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:UbuntuLogo2.png
[11:41] <Werdnum> lol
[11:41] <Eons> drakeoutlaw: do you need to send o receive?
[11:41] <becky> Hello, for some reason my Ubuntu Edgy setup I just installed is showing an additional floppy drive that never mounts. I only have 1 physical floppy drive, and that mounts OK. how to I get rid of the other one showing in "Computer"?
[11:41] <Eons> if you need to send, you'll use gnome-obex-send
[11:41] <drakeoutlaw> Eons: both
[11:41] <misreckoning> tanath: ok I have that
[11:41] <Eons> you'd like to create a shortcut
[11:41] <misreckoning> tanath: what are the edgy repos?
[11:41] <Eons> for gnome-obex-send
[11:41] <tanath> becky, i have that too, only i don't have a floppy drive.. o.O
[11:42] <Werdnum> ubuntu: linux for communists
[11:42] <misreckoning> tanath: I guess I should first remove old (6.06) repos?
[11:42] <Eons> so you can drag files on it and it will be easier to send files
[11:42] <kuja> Werdnum: Makes me wonder why I'm still using Ubuntu, lol
[11:42] <Werdnum> :DD
[11:42] <tanath> misreckoning, if you're editing sources.list just change instances of dapper to edgy
[11:42] <kuja> I've been meaning to switch, I've been sort of lazy :P
[11:42] <Eons> drakeoutlaw: create an app shortcut on your panel to gnome-obex-send
[11:42] <drakeoutlaw> Eons: Ok I get the idea now. Great!  Thank you very much
[11:42] <becky> tanath/anyone else - Any idea how to remove an item from the computer:/// directory then?
[11:42] <Eons> drakeoutlaw: another thing
[11:43] <Eons> open system -> preferences -> session  properties
[11:43] <drakeoutlaw> Eons: still listening
[11:43] <tanath> i need some help. i can't get gnome-panel running. it's in my startup apps, but not in my current session. if i try to run it, it says it's detected one already running and exits
[11:43] <Eons> go to the last tab
[11:43] <Eons> and add this program
[11:43] <Eons> "gnome-obex-server"
[11:43] <Eons> so everytime you open gnome
[11:44] <Eons> your pc will be ready to receive
[11:44] <Eons> it's better than doing it manually
[11:44] <Eons> =)
[11:44] <rob> Werdnum: don't troll!
[11:44] <tanath> this happens when i log in too
[11:44] <drakeoutlaw> Eons: Dude! you're the man (unless you're a girl) Thanks a mil
[11:44] <Eons> drakeoutlaw: np =P
[11:45] <misreckoning> tanath: ok I will do it manualy, thank you
[11:45] <Werdnum> rob: that is so not trolling
[11:45] <misreckoning> tanath:  I hope it won't break anything :P
[11:45] <Eons> bye!
[11:45] <Werdnum> rob: the pic is funny! http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:UbuntuLogo2.png
[11:45] <rob> Werdnum: yeah it is
[11:45] <Werdnum> rob: fine. I shall leave.
[11:46] <rob> saves me doing it I guess :)
[11:46] <tanath> misreckoning, maybe make a backup of sources.list
[11:46] <misreckoning> tanath: sure I will
[11:46] <tanath> misreckoning, you know how to edit files from the commandline/terminal?
[11:46] <web_knows> hi :)
[11:46] <misreckoning> tanath: yeah I know at least that much ;)
[11:46] <tanath> misreckoning, good to know if x breaks.
[11:46] <becky> Please, I know someone knows the answer to this one.
[11:46] <tanath> good
[11:47] <misreckoning> tanath: nano, vim, emacs :)
[11:48] <archis> Hi ppl - a question re. update-manager
[11:48] <tanath> misreckoning, btw, you done this before?
[11:48] <tanath> misreckoning, you use listbugs?
[11:48] <misreckoning> tanath: nope :/
[11:48] <archis> I updgraded to edgy without any problems but
[11:48] <tanath> misreckoning, i can't recall if it shows bugs by default
[11:49] <archis> I said no when it asked me to delete obsolete libs and stuff and the very end
[11:49] <misreckoning> tanath: bugs are possible? whyyyy :(
[11:49] <archis> because I was concerned it might remove a few things
[11:49] <tanath> misreckoning, but if it does, ignore them. you'll need to upgrade everything. and some bugs only show when some apps aren't updated
[11:49] <archis> that I had installed via dpkg -i and alien previously
[11:49] <misreckoning> tanath: ok who cares, I will try
[11:49] <tanath> misreckoning, heh. 99.999% of all apps have bugs
[11:49] <archis> perhaps that was a misplaced worry
[11:49] <misreckoning> tanath: when debian comes out I will wipe out ubuntu from my hdd ;)
[11:50] <archis> but in any case I want to get rid of the cruft
[11:50] <tanath> heh
[11:50] <archis> is there a command to go with update-manager to repeat that specific step
[11:50] <archis> or should I use Snyaptic (in on GNOME)
[11:51] <tanath> synaptic is good. you can add a custom filter to show orphaned packages
[11:52] <tanath> do that, archis
[11:52] <tanath> archis, there's also 'sudo apt-get autoremove'
[11:52] <archis> ok cool and the orphaned filter in synaptic works via deborpham is that right?
[11:52] <archis> deborphan
[11:52] <tanath> archis, but you can find more 'cruft' with a synaptic filter
[11:53] <tanath> yes
[11:53] <archis> ok and would that be libs only or all srots of things?
[11:53] <tanath> finds more than libs for me
[11:53] <tanath> mostly libs though
[11:53] <archis> (that I can safely remv)
[11:54] <tanath> but you don't have to remove everything
[11:54] <archis> and is synaptic smart enough to warn me if I try to throow soth out that I installed manually (locally)
[11:54] <archis> dependencies of local pkgs etc
[11:54] <tanath> archis, i'm pretty sure if you installed it manually it won't show in that filter
[11:55] <tanath> archis, deps don't show
[11:55] <archis> ok because there's also the 'local and obsolete' filter in synaptic
[11:55] <archis> I dont quite understand the meaning of obsolete vs local
[11:55] <tanath> archis, i don't know the details of how it works, but i've never had probs using it. though it's shown things i'm not sure i want to remove (decoder libs), but i just leave 'em
[11:56] <saimu0> My OPENOFFICE is all in LAO  and i want to change it to Chinese, can anyone help ?
[11:56] <tanath> archis, not to sure either
[11:56] <archis> hehe yeah I thought that these distinctions are quite esoteric for most
[11:56] <tanath> archis, i would guess local is locally installed (w/ dpkg) and obsolete is just not needed anymore
[11:57] <archis> hm yeah but I guess it would not be a good idea to touch any of that
[11:57] <tanath> archis, btw, if you install stuff with aptitude, it marks it so it knows you want that, and any deps installed for it get marked as autoremovable
[11:58] <tanath> archis, you can use it just like apt-get
[11:58] <tanath> archis, except it has 'aptitude reinstall' :)
[11:58] <archis> ok and can you remind what autoremove does
[11:59] <archis> I will use aptotude autoclean at the end
[11:59] <tanath> archis, removes automatically installed dependancies
[11:59] <archis> to get rid of unused deb archives
[11:59] <archis> ah ok
[11:59] <tanath> that aren't needed anymore
[11:59] <archis> ah cool and thats apt-get autoremove or aptitude autoremove
[12:00] <tanath> apt-get
[12:00] <tanath> possibly both
[12:00] <tanath> don't think so though
[12:01] <tanath> i need some help. i can't get gnome-panel running. it's in my startup apps, but not in my current session. if i try to run it, it says it's detected one already running and exits
[12:02] <soundray> Is there a way to calculate the mtime difference between a pair of files in minutes?
[12:02] <archis> thanks for helping tanath :)
[12:02] <tanath> np
[12:02] <tonyyarusso> tanath: Maybe it is actually running and you just don't have any panels enabled?  Try a right-click, "Add panel".  Had you deleted them before, or is this on a fresh install?
[12:03] <tanath> tonyyarusso, nope. not running
[12:03] <tanath> tonyyarusso, there's no panel to right-click on :p
[12:04] <tim__b> anyone into package building using pbuilder? i tried building an liferea package which needs mozilla-dev to be installed. i added the package to my dsc and also via pbuilder --extrapackage but via make install in pbuilder the script claims not to find mozilla-dev. any suggestions?
[12:04] <tanath> tonyyarusso, this is an upgrade from dapper. i wouldn't delete something  ieneded :p
[12:04] <tanath> *i needed. bloody cold fingers
[12:04] <tonyyarusso> tanath: Does anything show up in 'ps aux | grep gnome-panel'?
[12:04] <tanath> tonyyarusso, nope
[12:05] <tanath> wait a sec
[12:05] <tanath> there isn ow
[12:05] <soundray> tanath: I know I'm late in this, but have you tried Alt-F2 gnome-panel ?
[12:05] <tanath> alt-f2 doesn't work
[12:05] <tanath> gnome-panel --sm-config-prefix /gnome-panel-PfbWgc/ --sm-client-id 117f000001000116001917900000216780006 --screen 0
[12:06] <tonyyarusso> okay, but none show.
[12:06] <tanath> soundray, i run it from the terminal, but it just says it's already running and exits
[12:06] <tanath> so i guess i'l ltry killing it
[12:07] <tanath> VIM!
[12:07] <tanath> muahaha
[12:07] <tanath> :D i'm a dumbass
[12:07] <tonyyarusso> what?
[12:07] <tanath> didn't show in current session, so i assumed it wasn't running
[12:08] <tanath> tonyyarusso, 'vim' = victory is mine
[12:08] <tonyyarusso> ah
[12:08] <tonyyarusso> So not the text editor then.
[12:08] <tanath> tonyyarusso, i ran 'killall gnome-panel' and ran it
[12:08] <tanath> tonyyarusso, lol, no. geek reference, but not that one
[12:09] <AnAnt> how can I find out the KERNEL compile options ? I am using the -generic kernel
[12:09] <tanath> tonyyarusso, (stewie from family guy)
[12:09] <tanath> some gamers use it a lot
[12:10] <KnowledgEngi> !OCR
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about OCR - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <KnowledgEngi> Optical Character Recognition
[12:10] <KnowledgEngi> uff
[12:10] <tanath> ok, thx. :D i'm out
[12:11] <soundray> AnAnt: /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[12:12] <tonyyarusso> KnowledgEngi: there are a few in 'apt-cache search ocr'
[12:12] <soundray> KnowledgEngi: also, you might find this article interesting: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/09/18/191251
[12:13] <tonyyarusso> soundray: It's in the repos too (at least on Feisty).  command line only though
[12:14] <klm-> which command do I use to shutdown machine in 10min?
[12:14] <soundray> tonyyarusso: good... first time I know a reason to upgrade to feisty ;)
[12:14] <we2by> !codecs
[12:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:14] <soundray> klm-: man shutdown
[12:14] <tonyyarusso> !info tesseract-ocr edgy
[12:14] <ubotu> Package tesseract-ocr does not exist in edgy
[12:15] <tonyyarusso> Yup
[12:16] <soundray> klm-: 'sudo shutdown -h 10'
[12:16] <AnAnt> soundray: can I change the kernel PREEMPT setting in run or boot time ?
[12:16] <klm-> thanks ppl
[12:17] <AnAnt> soundray: I found something about changing it in run time, but I didn't find the files in /proc tree
[12:17] <soundray> AnAnt: I don't think so, but I'm not an expert
[12:17] <AnAnt> ok, thanks
[12:17] <jisatsu> anyone know of any USB wireless networking connectors which are sure to work with Linux?
[12:17] <tonyyarusso> soundray: Do you happen to know if there's an option for shutdown that will turn off the system bell warning beeps?
[12:18] <soundray> tonyyarusso: no, sorry
[12:18] <tonyyarusso> jisatsu: Not offhand - I think that's pretty sketchy.  Take a look at the HardwareSupport pages of the wiki though.
[12:18] <jisatsu> ok, thanks :)
[12:18] <mykal44> hi everyone
[12:19] <mykal44> msg flox :)
[12:19] <mykal44> :)
[12:20] <soundray> jisatsu: hardly any vendor says what the chipset is on the package. The way to do it is to buy from a reseller who will give you your money back if you find out that it doesn't work.
[12:20] <jisatsu> yeah, I could do. I wanted to check out ones that are known to work first though
[12:20] <we2by> does gnome have sharing feature like kde?
[12:22] <willvdl> hi all, can anyone assist with lmsensors on edgy?
[12:22] <soundray> we2by: gnome has sharing features. I don't know whether they are like those that KDE has.
[12:22] <we2by> soundray: is it sharing using samba?
[12:23] <soundray> we2by: yes
[12:23] <willvdl> after sensors-detect, the sensors command can't find i2c bus info
[12:23] <soundray> I am looking for a way to calculate the mtime difference between a pair of files in minutes. Suggestions?
[12:24] <fdv> does anybody have any idea where (if) I can find a maven2 build for ubuntu?
[12:27] <vldmr> I like to know how I get root user login in graphic mode ?
[12:28] <dmnd> vldmr: you dont want that
[12:28] <vldmr> dmnd: I need to install a program, but its only run with root permission
[12:29] <vldmr> dmnd: its use qt
[12:29] <dmnd> vldmr: use sudo apt-get install blabla
[12:29] <soundray> vldmr: open a terminal and run 'sudo -i' for a root CLI. Use 'gksudo qtprogram' to run a graphical program with root privileges.
[12:29] <Vimmel> Where do i check who and what restarted my server?
[12:30] <willvdl> does libsensors come out the box with compiled sysfs support?
[12:31] <tonyyarusso> Vimmel: /var/log/syslog I think
[12:31] <vldmr> dmnd: soundray tank you... i'll do about here !!
[12:32] <Vimmel> tonyyarusso, Ok cool, thx
[12:32] <koko> i have a problem with openoffice2, i use linux, and the problem is that the language is russia, so i don't understand anything, have you got an idea how to change the interface language?
[12:32] <tonyyarusso> Vimmel: Hm, maybe not.  /var/log/auth.log looks more promising
[12:32] <tonyyarusso> Depends how it's done maybe
[12:32] <Vimmel> tonyyarusso, Thanks, ill check them both
[12:32] <floating> Hello. Without samba, how can I connect to another computer in my LAN and send a file ?
[12:32] <fdv> soundray: something like get_mtime_diff() { echo $((($(date -d $(stat -c %y $1) +%s) - $(date -d $(stat -c %y $2) +%s))/60)) } ?
[12:32] <fdv> (in bash, that is)
[12:34] <willvdl> anyone got lmsensors working out-the-box on edgy?
[12:34] <bimberi> floating: ftp or sftp are two ways (both require one of the PCs to be running a server process)
[12:34] <floating> I heard there was a program in ubuntu, you just enter ip and something
[12:35] <bimberi> floating: what operating system on the PCs
[12:35] <bimberi> ?
[12:35] <floating> but have no idea which, and can't locate it in xubuntu, so I am not sure if it is installed here
[12:35] <floating> windows on the other, and connecting with xubuntu
[12:35] <minimec> Hi folks. I just ripped an CD with Bamshee and made some Tags too. Now I realise, that the beep-media-player cannot read the tags correctly. I do wonder why that is... ?
[12:35] <Luke> anyone know a repo with nvidia beta drivers for Ubuntu edgy?
[12:35] <floating> at least from ubuntu I should be able to connect to windows machines shared folder with this program
[12:36] <tonyyarusso> !amaranth | Luke
[12:36] <ubotu> Luke: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9629 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://seerofsouls.com/ edgy contrib" (for x86) (key at http://seerofsouls.com/ubuntu.html) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[12:36] <Luke> i think thats down
[12:36] <Luke> oh i see
[12:36] <Luke> thanks tonyyarusso !
[12:36] <vldmr> dmnd: I have the root password but it dont work !! why ?
[12:36] <tonyyarusso> Luke: Most likely it is, but it's all I'm aware of.  They maxed out their alloted bandwidth.
[12:36] <bimberi> floating: yes, in Ubuntu you use nautilus, the file manager to connect to a shared folder on the WIndows PC (Places -> Connect to Server)
[12:36] <Kenas> hi guys i have just tried to install "Guild Wars" on ubuntu with wine and the result is fine...
[12:36] <Kenas> but whn i get to the game the computer freezes and ubuntu restarts.. any1 knows wht can i do
[12:36] <Kenas> to fix this problem ??
[12:37] <tonyyarusso> Luke: Ohp, nvm.  The orig. one was down b/c of that, I see there are mirrors now.
[12:37] <floating> hmm ok, I dont have "places" in xubuntu, but ill just try installing nautilus then, thanks
[12:37] <Luke> tonyyarusso: yea thats why I said thanks... i wasnt aware of this mirror
[12:38] <Luke> tonyyarusso: someone is on top of things =)
[12:38] <tonyyarusso> Yep
[12:38] <Luke> whoever updated that with a mirror
[12:38] <willvdl> do the edgy kernel packages have i2c kernel support by default?
[12:40] <floating> bimberi: so nautilus is a whole new file manager... hmm maybe I have to skip
[12:40] <bimberi> floating: yes, hang on a sec...
[12:40] <Luke> do the deb-src lines give you all the "-src" packages?
[12:40] <vldmr> soundray I have the root password but it dont work. why ?
[12:41] <gnomefreak> Luke: yes
[12:41] <Luke> gnomefreak: thanks
[12:41] <bimberi> floating: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/configuring-samba.html#windows-networking-clients  (check that smbclient is installed first)
[12:41] <gnomefreak> Luke: those repos allow you to grab the source for a package
[12:41] <vldmr> gksudo ask for password, but its a root password ?
[12:41] <floating> I have thunar file manager on xxubuntu
[12:41] <Luke> gnomefreak: ok thanks. i need that for development
[12:41] <BlueEagle> vldmr: gksudo asks for the current users password.
[12:42] <pradeep> willvdl you could ask at #ubuntu-kernel if you don't find your answer here
[12:42] <BlueEagle> vldmr: The current user needs to be in either adm or admin group (don't remember which)
[12:42] <willvdl> pradeep, ta
[12:42] <[Gino] > Can I set the Windows Key and L to lock the screen.... I got to the keyboard shortcut window, but it won't let me do a combination of The Windows Key (Super_L) and another key.
[12:42] <bimberi> floating: you could try mounting the share (as shown) and it should be visible in Thunar
[12:43] <vldmr> BlueEagle: and the root ?
[12:43] <bimberi> !winkey | [Gino]
[12:43] <ubotu> [Gino] : To use the windows key in keyboard shortcuts as a modifier (like ALT): Run 'xmodmap' and see what Super_L corresponds to.  Then follow method B at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560 and use <mod4> (or whatever Super_L corresponded to with 'xmodmap') as the modifier. For example, a shortcut to use windows key + d would look like '<mod4>d'
[12:44] <[Gino] > Thanks bimberi
[12:44] <bimberi> [Gino] : np :)
[12:44] <BlueEagle> vldmr: and what root?
[12:44] <BlueEagle> !sudo
[12:44] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:46] <gurkZor> bimberi: Do you know how I install these drivers? http://saillard.org/linux/pwc/
[12:48] <vldmr> the root password is acept with 'su' command
[12:48] <bimberi> gurkZor: sorry no,  have you tried 'sudo modprobe pwc' (to load the shipped kernel module)?
[12:48] <floating> bimberi: ooh works, nice, thx
[12:48] <Sierra> :o
[12:48] <ubs> hey
[12:48] <bimberi> floating: cool :)
[12:49] <Sierra> someone registered my nickname
[12:49] <Sierra> ffs
[12:49] <hastesaver> Sierra, you should register yet
[12:49] <ubs> anyone willing to help me? I have a problem with grub. it wont boot up
[12:49] <bimberi> Sierra: 2 years 9 weeks 2 days (17h 53m 27s) ago  (according to nickserv)
[12:50] <Sierra> lolol
[12:50] <Sierra> mabe I just noticed ;)
[12:50] <bimberi> Sierra: /msg nickserv info sierra   :)
[12:50] <Sierra> I dont care that much
[12:50] <MiniJames> ;p
[12:50] <MiniJames> I own this name, but i cant remember the password
[12:51] <MiniJames> woot :)
[12:51] <bimberi> MiniJames: you might be able to get assistance from a Freenode staffer with that
[12:51] <MiniJames> -NickServ- Password accepted - you are now recognized
[12:51] <mdasilva> hey
[12:51] <MiniJames> i remembered :)
[12:51] <gurkZor> bimberi: Yes, i've tried "sudo modprobe pwc" but I get the message: "FATAL: Module pwc not found."
[12:51] <MiniJames> I have a fantastic memory bimberi
[12:51] <MiniJames> thanks for your help ;p
[12:51] <ubs> so, anyone knows how to access the boot/grub/menu.list from a live cd?
[12:52] <bimberi> MiniJames: lol,  anyway: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#helpfromstaff
[12:52] <tonyyarusso> ubs: You'll have to mount your hard drive.
[12:53] <gurkZor> ubs: I guess you first have to mount your harddrive
[12:53] <gurkZor> hehe, tonyyarusso was faster
[12:53] <bimberi> gurkZor: hmmk, I have one here (6.10 Edgy i386).  Are you on a different Ubuntu version/architecture?
[12:53] <gurkZor> Nope, I'm on Edgy bimberi
[12:53] <ubs> hmm
[12:53] <bimberi> hmm
[12:54] <natrix> Hello ppl
[12:54] <linopil> geia  sou NatR
[12:55] <poolkey172> hi natrix
[12:55] <natrix> Blepw ellhnes
[12:55] <bimberi> gurkZor: which kernel  (uname -r)
[12:55] <gurkZor> I've got pwc-source bimberi, perhaps I'm supposed to compile it, but how?
[12:55] <bimberi> ?
[12:55] <natrix> I have a problem with my usb stick
[12:55] <gurkZor> 2.6.17-10-386
[12:55] <gurkZor> bimberi
[12:56] <bimberi> gurkZor: ah, I'm on -generic
[12:56] <minimec> natrix: This is normally not a good sign, if your stick isn't working.
[12:56] <gurkZor> Is it possible for me to change to -generic? bimberi
[12:56] <bimberi> gurkZor: yep 'sudo apt-get install linux-generic' and reboot
[12:57] <poolkey172> whats the best kernel for dual core ?
[12:57] <natrix> the problem is on exe apps not on usb stick actually
[12:57] <minimec> natrix: What is the problem?
[12:57] <gurkZor> THX bimberi will try it
[12:57] <natrix> I have a cruzer profile with fingerprint recon
[12:57] <natrix> sandisk
[12:57] <Vig> Hiya
[12:57] <bimberi> poolkey172: linux-generic (edgy), linux-686-smp (dapper or earlier)
[12:58] <floating> bimberi: the mounting is not so succesful. dmesg says smbfs: mount_data version<PHONE_NUMBER> is not supported
[12:58] <poolkey172> thanks bimeri
[12:58] <poolkey172> thanks bimberi
[12:58] <bimberi> gurkZor, poolkey172: np :)
[12:58] <natrix> the software is onlny with windows (the sandisk doesn't give option with linux ay all)
[12:58] <floating> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //arrak/temp, missing codepage or other error
[12:58] <Vig> How do I restore those Multiple Desktop switchers on the little taskbar on the bottom?
[12:59] <minimec> natrix: So the problem is not the stick, but the software for fingerprint recognition. Is that true?
[12:59] <gurkZor> ubs: are you a bot or a real person?
[12:59] <natrix> yes minimec that's correct
[12:59] <bimberi> floating: ewww, not sure sorry.  To google (unless someone else knows)
[12:59] <floating> but, I dont need to moutn it, if I can copy files somehow! smb: \> cp this that  -> cp: command not found
[12:59] <natrix> I've tried the wine and crossover office but no luck
[01:00] <bimberi> Vig: right-click on the panel, add to panel, workspace switcher
[01:00] <Vig> Thank you
[01:00] <minimec> natrix: Hmmm... I guess you have to live without that fingerprint recognition... I don't think, that the sandisk software is running with wine. I guess not.
[01:00] <natrix> any ideas?
[01:00] <ubs> i cant mount the drive . damn
[01:01] <poolkey172> Has anyone got a pocket pc syncing with ubuntu ?
[01:01] <MiniJames> i want to
[01:01] <MiniJames> lol
[01:01] <MiniJames> I have a 1945 but i couldnt make it do anything
[01:01] <MiniJames> HP iPAQ
[01:01] <minimec> natrix: what is the name of the sandisk software?
[01:01] <natrix> minimec: isn't there any other app that can simulate exe apps
[01:01] <Morrissey> Hi! my lspci is: "Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device" for vga. I want to use 3D applications, but I dont know where to start. Can anyone help me with this? Have been trying forever!
[01:01] <bimberi> floating: did you include "-t smbfs" in the mount command?
[01:01] <MiniJames> having said that, poolkey172, there are several projects going
[01:01] <poolkey172> I tried synce : ksync the lost
[01:01] <poolkey172> I tried synce : ksync the lot
[01:01] <floating> yea
[01:02] <MiniJames> poolkey172, did you see there is a new option in edgy
[01:02] <MiniJames> poolkey172, to auto synce with software on plug in
[01:02] <natrix> minimec: the name is CruzerProfle.exe
[01:02] <minimec> natrix: Well you have 'crossover' I think, wich is an enhanced wine.
[01:02] <jonkopa> dmesg | grep DVD
[01:02] <poolkey172> minijames ? where ?
[01:02] <jonkopa> hdc: _NEC DVD+/-RW ND-3450A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[01:02] <jonkopa> hdc: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33)
[01:02] <jonkopa> root@hlyarurk:~# dvd+rw-format  /dev/hdc
[01:02] <jonkopa> * DVDRW/-RAM format utility by<EMAIL_ADDRESS>version 6.1.
[01:02] <jonkopa> :-( mounted media doesn't appear to be DVDRW or DVD-RAM
[01:02] <MiniJames> poolkey172, synce and multisync is what i was reffering to
[01:03] <gurkZor> bimberi: Same error, and Ive installed generic
[01:03] <poolkey172> minijames oic : Well they didnt work too well for me
[01:03] <Vollstrecker> Anyone here that can help me with this: http://forum.amule.org/thread.php?threadid=11561&sid= ?
[01:03] <bimberi> gurkZor: did you reboot?
[01:03] <MiniJames> oh, poolkey172, system > preferences > removable drives and media
[01:03] <poolkey172> minijames I can connect the ppc and browse it but not sync PIM items
[01:03] <MiniJames> poolkey172, thats more than I managed ;)
[01:03] <gurkZor> bimberi: haha, nope.. guess that's important xD
[01:03] <poolkey172> minijames hmmmmm
[01:04] <tore> Does anyone know how to install Dapper on SunFire X4100-es?  According to www.ubuntu.com these should be supported, but the mptsas driver shipped doesn't appear to recognise the RAID controller that these boxes use.
[01:04] <minimec> natrix: Do you speak german?
[01:04] <bimberi> Morrissey: should work out of the box. what does 'glxinfo | grep direct' say (for direct rendering)?
[01:04] <bimberi> gurkZor: :)
[01:04] <tore> Is there some custom install image somewhere, mayhap?
[01:04] <natrix> minimec: No
[01:04] <poolkey172> lots of questions :rollseyes:
[01:04] <gurkZor> tore:  You mean alternative?
[01:05] <tore> gurkZor: Not really.  What do you mean by that?
[01:05] <CrIcK> Guys does XGL work on Intel 845Gl chipset with onboard graphics?
[01:05] <minimec> natrix: Well I found something on that stick and the software... but in german
[01:05] <poolkey172> crick yes
[01:06] <CrIcK> could u point me to some guides poolkey172
[01:06] <poolkey172> crick download a decent distro first
[01:06] <natrix> minimec: can you tell me the basics or give me the address in net if I can find any info?
[01:06] <CrIcK> i'm on Dapper Drake
[01:06] <minimec> natrix: What about french?
[01:06] <poolkey172> like say koraa livecd : download it and it'll run XGL outa the box
[01:07] <gurkZor> tore: Thought you meant alternative when you said custom.
[01:07] <poolkey172> :)
[01:07] <natrix> minimec: No I am afraid only english and greek !!
[01:07] <CrIcK> Yeah i have it
[01:07] <CrIcK> but the livecd is way 2 slow
[01:07] <incorrect> does anyone here run the amd64 ubuntu distro?
[01:07] <poolkey172> crick : sweet
[01:07] <natrix> minimec: Can qemu do something ?
[01:07] <minimec> natrix: Well I give you the two links ... http://skreo.murties.com/index.php/2006/08/22/17-securite-pgp-biometrie
[01:08] <poolkey172> crick : try g00gling "ubuntu xgl howto" :)
[01:08] <minimec> natrix: http://www.heise.de/mobil/artikel/79122
[01:08] <CrIcK> whats the diff. between Aiglx and xgl?
[01:08] <tore> gurkZor: Well, I'm just looking for an installer that'll be able to find the RAID controller in these boxes.  I've earlier been hacking my way around it, but now I see that Sun servers are officially supported, so I would think there is an alternative/custom/whatever installer available somewhere that actually work with them.
[01:09] <sparr> im looking for an animated gif of a linux/foss (kde, tux, ubuntu, kubuntu, etc) logo pissing on a windows (xp, vista, whatever) logo.  anyone got one handy?
[01:09] <minimec> natrix: Well it seems, that you can run them with linux and mac, but you need a windows computer for the configuration.
[01:09] <natrix> minimec: thanks a lot
[01:09] <poolkey172> crick : I'm a newbie also : but from what I see aiglx / glx (ati vs nvidia) compiz / beryl (windows managers)
[01:10] <poolkey172> crick : appears that ati drivers suck
[01:10] <natrix> minimec: I have access to windows PC
[01:10] <minimec> natrix: So there is hope ;)
[01:10] <CrIcK> K thanjs poolkey172
[01:10] <CrIcK> will do some reseacrh & come back
[01:10] <gurkZor> tore: Ok, I'm sorry but then I think I can't help you out
[01:10] <CrIcK> *research
[01:10] <poolkey172> tore : ubuntu is rubbish cant install on RAID I have been doing it manually
[01:10] <CrIcK> thanks a ton :)
[01:11] <jonkopa> poolkey172, and?
[01:11] <natrix> minimec: Did you understand how from your quick search in these links?
[01:11] <cuteAndFluffy> Good day! A quick question, do ubuntu have support for PPC? (ie, Mac)
[01:11] <gurkZor> Yes cuteAndFluffy
[01:11] <natrix> minimec: there is always hope :)
[01:11] <sparr> yes
[01:12] <sparr> cuteAndFluffy: not just support, whole native install discs
[01:12] <MikeyMike> is there an 'empty trash'
[01:12] <cuteAndFluffy> Oh how nice :) I can't seem to find any info on that on the webpage though..
[01:12] <chaelot|work> Hello, i am rather new to Linux and Ubuntu in general. I just switched from Windows and got my Ubuntu installation to run almost as i want it to. The only question i have at this point is: how come it sounds like any mp3/sound playback comes out of a tin can, whereas i have good quality sound playback in Windows ?
[01:12] <poolkey172> jonkopa : and what ?
[01:12] <chaelot|work> i guess it's some setting somewhere i need to tweak, but as i said, i'm a newbie and dont know where :)
[01:12] <MikeyMike> where's the trash emptier!
[01:12] <MikeyMike> :D
[01:13] <tore> poolkey172: So what I'm reading about "certified to run" and so on at <http://www.ubuntu.com/sun> is basically hyperbole?
[01:13] <gurkZor> MikeyMike: in the right corner?
[01:13] <MikeyMike> i guess im going to have to add the stupid little trash can back to my gnome panel
[01:13] <MikeyMike> gurkZor, i got rid of that
[01:13] <poolkey172> chaelot|work : lol thats cos windows is the better operating system :)
[01:13] <gurkZor> hehe
[01:13] <gurkZor> oke