[07:26] <grajul> im installing it on to ubuntu
[07:26] <heather> alright alright
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> heather, Check the wiki link from ubotu, and I'll send you two more for commands.  Beyond that, watch and learn I guess.
[07:26] <saadat> guys first question?? is Breezy = 5.10
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> Or not.
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, Did you see the second try?
[07:27] <saadat> 2 quustion apt-get update gives my GPG errors.....
[07:27] <pashaw> !breezy
[07:27] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:27] <jessica_> thought linux was supposed to be easy lol
[07:27] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: no
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, Hrm.
[07:28] <intelikey> jessica_ it is to those that have spent one third the time on it that you have on windows.  :)
[07:28] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: can you not just post the link here
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> Can anyone walk war-totem through receiving pms with irssi?
[07:28] <jessica_> actually i dont use windows
[07:28] <jessica_> used mac half my life
[07:28] <HeartBT> tonyyarusso, is this a script your sending?
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, There is no link.  It's in a book.
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> HeartBT, No, I was going to copy two pages out of a book.
[07:29] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: oh
[07:29] <HeartBT> war-totem, is this for gnome?
[07:29] <saadat> therea a time & place for windows, theres a time 7 place for linux and theres a time & place for the best production OS I have ever used (PalmOS)... too bad it is being shelved
[07:29] <war-totem> HeartBT: yes
[07:29] <grajul> does any one no how do change my permitions so i can install stuff on to my hard drive
[07:29] <HeartBT> war-totem, look here and see if this fits the bill. http://swik.net/GNOME/GNOME+Hacks/Wallpaper+Randomizer/je2
[07:29] <war-totem> HeartBT: will do
[07:30] <saadat> I hate GPG errors can't get rid of them when I run apt-get update????
[07:30] <sklav> migrated all my systems to Ubuntu
[07:30] <Nikusan> y
[07:30] <sklav> ;)
[07:30] <intelikey> on the default ub install of irssi-text  a /msg will cause an alert to appear in the blue strip with a number in it indicating that you have new info in window <that number>   hold down the  alt key and press the number  to view it.   and  alt 1 or 2  is usually the window you just left....
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> jessica_, I just picked up Ubuntu four months ago, and it's reasonably easy.  I could do everything I did in Windows great; it's when I try to play with other cool stuff that it gets a little confusing.
[07:30] <intelikey> war-totem ^
[07:31] <grajul> can any one help me
[07:31] <saadat> no expert here on solving GPG erors
[07:31] <pashaw> !anyone
[07:31] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[07:31] <war-totem> intelikey: yours definitely did that ,but tonyyarusso 's didnt
[07:31] <pashaw> grajul,    what are you installing
[07:32] <intelikey> grajul yes prepend    sudo   to the install command   and when prompted  give your password.
[07:32] <grajul> doom 3 but it says i have no permitions to install it
[07:32] <war-totem> HeartBT: i think that script is perfect, thanks a lot m8
[07:32] <saadat> Okay - I run apt-get update and get GPG errors????? Why should I get GPG errors in the first place???
[07:32] <grajul> im new to this so what is prepending sudo
[07:32] <pashaw> grajul,     type  sudo  infront of
[07:32] <sklav> wiki nees to be updated
[07:33] <intelikey> tonyyarusso you regestered ?     you cant pm without reg.
[07:33] <sklav> gstreamer-plugins-multiverse doesnt exists anymore
[07:33] <HeartBT> war-totem, np.
[07:33] <grajul> in a new konsole window or the one im installing it in
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> war-totem & intelikey: Yep, I'm a moron.  Registered, but not identified.
[07:33] <intelikey> tonyyarusso what client ?
[07:33] <pashaw> grajul,   infront of the install command/script     type   sudo <whatever>
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> There's a way to make it auto-identify, isn't there?
[07:34] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: hehe no problem, im a moron tood :P
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, XChat.  Fixed it now.
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, How's that?
[07:35] <intelikey> you can add the idintify line to that    edit the server at startup and add  /msg nickserv identify <passwd>    to the command to exec on connect line.
[07:35] <intelikey> tonyyarusso ^
[07:35] <grajul> do you want me to do this in a new shell because i cant type any thing in the one that im installing doom 3 with because it is asking me to enter the installation path
[07:35] <grajul> pashaw:do you want me to do this in a new shell because i cant type any thing in the one that im installing doom 3 with because it is asking me to enter the installation path
[07:35] <pashaw> grajul,   i would cancel that and start over
[07:36] <grajul> okay
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Not sure how to edit the server.
[07:36] <intelikey> the edit button
[07:36] <blanky> !java
[07:36] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:36] <blanky> that's right B****
[07:36] <grajul> so i type in sudo infront of what
[07:36] <borisattva> of the command
[07:36] <pashaw> grajul,   yes
[07:37] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, It's nice when it's that obvious.  I just can't see it now, since that window's not up.
[07:37] <borisattva> are non ubunutu specific questions allowed as well? rhythmbox for example
[07:38] <grajul> pashaw: what is the command line as i said im new to this
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> borisattva, Generally.  You might get referred to another channel for some.
[07:38] <intelikey> tonyyarusso  unless you have selected 'no server list on startup'  then the first window that opens when you start xchat,  select the freenode server and hit the edit button  :)
[07:38] <pashaw> grajul,   how did you start the install when it failed?
[07:38] <blanky> !why is automatix crap
[07:38] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, blanky
[07:38] <blanky> !automatix
[07:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is "messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement" -a !MOTU on automatix
[07:39] <joelbryan> hi, is there a programming talk in Ubuntu IRC?
[07:39] <grajul> with chmod 500 then sudo
[07:39] <blanky> !MOTU
[07:39] <ubotu> motu is, like, totally, the Masters of the Universe ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU )
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, Did my message ever go through to you?
[07:39] <mondi> need help .... do any of you guys know a site where I could get some info on how to customize openbox for ubuntu?
[07:39] <intelikey> tonyyarusso  you can open that window not in the [file]  / server list      i think
[07:39] <intelikey> s/not/now/
[07:39] <grajul> pashaw: with chmod 500 then sudo
[07:39] <HeartBT> can I ask about additional repositories for the codec stuff without being OT or in violation?
[07:39] <blanky> is there an alternative to automatix?
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Yep, there it is.
[07:39] <blanky> that isnt 'crap' ?
[07:39] <blanky> is automatix really bad?
[07:40] <saadat> where can I find manual install processes for automatix
[07:40] <eek-0> HELP HELP HELP]
[07:40] <mrkoje> saadat,  don't use automatix... use easyubuntu
[07:40] <tonyyarusso> How long should it take to clamscan a 15G drive?
[07:40] <intelikey> aint GUI the greatest thing.......  console user tells gui user things on his gui......
[07:40] <eek-0> im on ubuntu..i go the the file browser..its showing that folders are locked..but im root!! wtf!!
[07:40] <borisattva> has anyone been able to establish which config file does rhythmbox store its library location? i made a typo on the first run prompt. and after taht it only allows to point and lick to those on local file system
[07:41] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: yea i got it, do you get my reply?
[07:41] <pashaw> grajul,    what script command did you start the install with?
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, No.
[07:41] <mihai_> I need help resetting the MySQL passwords
[07:41] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: damn
[07:41] <saadat> easyubuntu.... let me search ubuntuforums for it then
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, Are you registered?  (Ain't this fun?)
[07:41] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: yea im registered
[07:41] <intelikey> lol
[07:42] <blanky> saadat, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[07:42] <intelikey> are you identified to the server ?
[07:42] <grajul> pashaw: first i did a chmod 500 directed at the file then i did a sudo directed at the file
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> war-totem, I see it now.
[07:42] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: ok
[07:42] <saadat> thanks blanky
[07:42] <mihai____> anybody knows where the mysql passwords are stored? or how to reset them?
[07:42] <joelbryan> My first installation hangs when I try to install dapper flight-cd2
[07:42] <intelikey> i use an   .ircrc  file for auto ident
[07:43] <blanky> saadat, thanks isn't enough, how bout 5 bucks
[07:43] <blanky> hey ubotu, I'm using automatix, HAH
[07:43] <blanky> *sees computer get screwed up*
[07:43] <blanky> noooooooooooo!
[07:44] <saadat> blanky - send me the invoice - 90 day dredit right
[07:44] <grajul> pashaw: i got it so it askes for the password but my password is all numbers and i cant type it in
[07:44] <blanky> yeah sure np
[07:44] <dailyrorschach> anyone able to get ndiswrapper working on a dell truemobile, the wiki page doesn't seem to be doing it
[07:44] <HeartBT> pashaw, Ok, I'm off to frag a drive.  Now, just resize and install, right?
[07:44] <silverton> when I go to install nvidia-glx-legacy, it wants to install the 386 kernel...
[07:44] <silverton> anyway around that?
[07:44] <intelikey> :)
[07:44] <joelbryan> I got a question?, will 2.15 be the final Ubuntu dapper release?
[07:45] <pashaw> HeartBT,   i thought you had room for a side my side install/
[07:45] <blanky> intelikey, big blanky go boom?
[07:45] <blanky> helicopter go boom!
[07:45] <joelbryan> I got a question?, will Kernel 2.15 will be made on the final dapper release?
[07:45] <pashaw> HeartBT,   but yes that should work also  always do backups   before resizing
[07:45] <HeartBT> pashaw, plenty.  I'm pessimistic.  I've been dealing with suse for the last 4 years, and things just never go perfect in suse.
[07:46] <intelikey> 2.15  :)
[07:46] <intelikey> 2.6.15 you mean ?
[07:46] <HeartBT> pashaw, recomendations for a partition resizing util?  or let ubuntu do it?
[07:46] <HeartBT> think painless
[07:46] <grajul> pashaw: i got it accept my password but the install did not start up
[07:47] <pashaw> grajul,    what game  doom3?
[07:47] <HeartBT> oops, I don't think that worked grajul
[07:47] <HeartBT> :)
[07:48] <intelikey> !info linux dapper
[07:48] <ubotu> linux: (Generic complete Linux kernel.), section restricted/base, is optional. Version: <IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 52 kB
[07:49] <intelikey> !info linux warty
[07:49] <pashaw> HeartBT,   any of the parted's should work   qt  or g
[07:49] <intelikey> hmmm no info on warty
[07:50] <sklav> ok its bedtime
[07:50] <HeartBT> pashaw, alrighty, I'm out of here.  BB in about an hour.  I hope.
[07:50] <sklav> ive been on to long today
[07:50] <pashaw> HeartBT,    GL
[07:50] <ArabianMystic> Hey...
[07:50] <jrattner1> What is a good CD to mp3 converter?
[07:51] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   hey old timer
[07:51] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, lol
[07:51] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, it certainly feels that way...
[07:51] <intelikey> to mp3 ???? yuch
[07:51] <jrattner1> yeh
[07:51] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   X still working
[07:51] <jrattner1> Any ideas?
[07:51] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, yes. I have a slight but annoying though...
[07:52] <intelikey> audacity will do that wont it.
[07:52] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, the link to my windows partition, on my ubuntu desktop, cannot be accessed. Apparently I don't have permission.
[07:52] <intelikey> ArabianMystic ^
[07:52] <intelikey> but i'd use ogg
[07:52] <intelikey> not mp3
[07:52] <jrattner1> intelikey, ill give it a try
[07:52] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, can anything be done?
[07:53] <jrattner1> why ogg?
[07:53] <intelikey> open source   and as good or better quality
[07:53] <bluefrog-10> jrattner1, smaller and free
[07:53] <ArabianMystic> Guess not :( :(
[07:53] <intelikey> mp3 is not open source.
[07:53] <intelikey> !mp3
[07:53] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:53] <jrattner1> yeh, but i fear that if i try to later burn it to another cd that the track wont have information: (ID3) tags?
[07:54] <m0r0n> Hi, I want to install a theme from gnome-look.org, but the theme preference tool displays the message "the file format is invalid" for every tar.gz file I ve  downloaded. I ve read that I only need to choose the downloaded file for the installation. But it doesnt work, Any ideas ?
[07:54] <dailyrorschach> anyone able to properly install a wifi card with ndiswrapper in 5.10?
[07:54] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,    yes  just looking for the Ubuntu way   im too old school
[07:54] <intelikey> dailyrorschach i hear about it all the time, but i have no withless.
[07:54] <intelikey> !wifi
[07:54] <ubotu> wifi is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[07:54] <dailyrorschach> yeah, no, that doesn't work
[07:55] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:55] <dailyrorschach> I did it before with 5.04 but forgot where I found the right instructions, it took me a whole night to find it
[07:55] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, danke
[07:55] <intelikey> ArabianMystic see !ntfs
[07:56] <bluefrog-10> ArabianMystic, edit /etc/fstab , replace defaults by umask=0222 on the ntfs line. alternatively reading the help guide (red question mark on the task bar) provided by ubuntu solves a lot of problem.
[07:56] <intelikey> yeah what pashaw gave you ....   sorry i'm slow.
[07:57] <Mohan> guys i am changing my hard disk I want to have both windows xp and ubuntu on it, so what should I do first install and then install ubuntu on it or vice versa
[07:57] <theCore> Mohan, windows first
[07:57] <Mohan> first xp or ubutnu
[07:57] <pashaw> Mohan,    windows first
[07:58] <ArabianMystic> !ntfs
[07:58] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:58] <Xer0_h4x> windows takes a dump on your linux partion :(
[07:58] <intelikey> Mohan install windows and leave free disk space (not partitioned) for ubuntu.
[07:58] <Mohan> should i partion the disk using windows while intallation or while intallling ubuntu
[07:58] <Xer0_h4x> ubuntu
[07:58] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, okay, that's fine, it works... however, I get this error: error: libhal_device_get_property_type: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice: No device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_3_1
[07:58] <ArabianMystic> Ignoring /dev/hda1 - already in /etc/fstab
[07:58] <Xer0_h4x> dont do it in xp
[07:59] <intelikey> Mohan you want to setup windows but leave free space on the hdd
[07:59] <niffe> what is good ftp software with ssl support?
[07:59] <niffe> GUI
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> So after I run clamscan, where are the results??
[08:00] <intelikey> then install ubuntu and when asked select the free space and make ext3  for ubuntu
[08:00] <intelikey> Mohan ^
[08:00] <pashaw> ArabianMystic,   you can scroll down that page  to the file system table section   if the drives are already listed in fstab
[08:00] <Mohan> then i will make a singlle partion and install win
[08:00] <fangorious> anyone know how to add/remove search engines in konqueror's search bar?
[08:01] <intelikey> Mohan yes but don't let it have all the disk
[08:01] <intelikey> leave about 3 or more gig  free
[08:01] <Mohan> i must first say i am an non techy so forgive me if i dont understand fully first time
[08:01] <rob1> whats the url for the fridge rss feed?
[08:01] <intelikey> depending on the avalable space of course.
[08:02] <Mohan> like my new hard disk is 80 gb
[08:02] <Mohan> so how should i allocate
[08:02] <Raskall> Merry xmas, folks.
[08:03] <grayman> its tomorrow no?
[08:03] <rob1> yes
[08:03] <Raskall> Here in Norway it's 24. at least
[08:03] <intelikey> so let windows have some of it (i would say maybe 20g) and after install of win let ub have some of it (another 20g leaving 40g free, that you can always add to either system as needed.)
[08:03] <intelikey> Mohan ^
[08:03] <grayman> its in january here
[08:03] <grayman> :P
[08:04] <war-totem> is dapper drake out allready?
[08:04] <war-totem> and if so it must be in alpha stage right?
[08:04] <intelikey> war-totem not until x-04-2006
[08:04] <ArabianMystic> pashaw, Okay! I can see it now. Thanks once again.
[08:04] <pashaw> ArabianMystic, :P
[08:04] <jenda> war-totem: It's in development, but you can use it already, war-totem
[08:05] <Mohan> iinteli will this be ok 30 for Win 20 for ubuntu and 30 for fat32 coomman
[08:05] <intelikey> war-totem yeah kinda like alpha stage
[08:05] <war-totem> jenda: whats the point? just to help bug test it?
[08:05] <war-totem> intelikey: hardcore only then id imagine
[08:05] <grayman> hva g det?
[08:05] <intelikey> Mohan yes of course
[08:05] <intelikey> war-totem yes
[08:05] <jenda> war-totem: Yup. That... and the fact that you have the newest OS in the world on your PC at the moment...
[08:05] <Mohan> inteli another thing
[08:06] <war-totem> jenda: hahah
[08:06] <jenda> Some people like that.
[08:06] <war-totem> jenda: i had a hell of a time with breezy when it first came out
[08:06] <war-totem> jenda: i think dapper would make me cry
[08:06] <jenda> yeah... I didn't - I waited for the release.
[08:06] <Mohan> many sites say that you must not load grub on the MBR for dual boot what is your suggestion and why
[08:06] <intelikey> i have one of the oldest.   comadore 64   :)
[08:06] <war-totem> intelikey: now your dating yourself ;)
[08:06] <pashaw> Moder,   many who?
[08:07] <jenda> Hey... I need to enable more languages in openoffice.org - French and Czech. Where's the place to look?
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> Mohan, I have grub on the MBR dual-booting Ubuntu and WinXP on two different computers just fine.
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, We have a working C64 too.
[08:07] <intelikey> Mohan there is a good wiki about grub and duel boot on the ub site.  i sujest you read it.
[08:07] <intelikey> !grub
[08:07] <ubotu> somebody said grub was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[08:08] <war-totem> what do you ppl think of the state of windows gaming in linux?
[08:08] <war-totem> do you think its improving or will linux never get there?
[08:08] <Mohan> but will WIn load properly after grub installation
[08:08] <Mohan> without me changing anything
[08:08] <jrattner1> a
[08:08] <Mohan> i must say i am absolute non techy
[08:09] <pashaw> war-totem,   gaming in general needs a revamp   they are getting too lazy     fancy graphics  but games are boring
[08:09] <intelikey> that is what the page is all about Mohan   how to set it up so it will
[08:09] <war-totem> pashaw: maybe but thats not what im asking.  i would like to be linux only, but gaming forces me to have a windows partition
[08:09] <war-totem> pashaw: and i have had no luck with games on linux and ive tried a lot of things
[08:09] <manuel_> Hi, I need some help, I can't play any song (mp3) and video, and I install all the codecs
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> Mohan, Probably.  Both of mine worked out of the box, which is what we all hope for.  If not, reread the documentation and try to figure it out, and failing that, you can come back here and we'll hook you up.
[08:10] <war-totem> manuel_: theres an excellent wiki about codecs and mp3
[08:10] <war-totem> manuel_: ubuntu too
[08:10] <intelikey> tonyyarusso i have a brand nitb C64
[08:10] <manuel_> yes
[08:10] <pashaw> war-totem,   theres nothing wrong with keeping the dual boot        some people smoke cigarettes  some drink alot  you game
[08:10] <manuel_> I check that before
[08:10] <intelikey> nitb=new in the box
[08:11] <Mohan> guys i am experimenting with the office pc so it is absolutely necessary
[08:11] <war-totem> pashaw: interesting that you said that as i do all three
[08:11] <manuel_> but I can't ear and see anything
[08:11] <war-totem> pashaw: am i going to hell?
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, How in the world did that happen?
[08:11] <pashaw> war-totem,   why you want to plan  meet and greet there with the rest of the channel
[08:11] <war-totem> manuel_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:12] <war-totem> pashaw: hehe
[08:12] <intelikey> local school never brought it out of storage closet  last year they found it.  lol pitched it in the trash so i grabed it.
[08:12] <Mohan> another thing mine is Winxp without sp2 should i update first or should i update after my installation of ubuntu
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Wait a few years, then, --- Ebay!  Or keep it around to confuse grandchildren sometime.
[08:13] <war-totem> tonyyarusso: haha
[08:14] <war-totem> use it in your "when i was your age" speeches
[08:14] <intelikey> i think i could still get it to sell lemonade   lol
[08:14] <pashaw> Mohan,   does it really matter     SP2 has a better chance of destrying your windows partition than Ubuntu does
[08:14] <war-totem> Mohan: in my experience, do everything you need to for winxp then install ubuntu
[08:15] <intelikey> my generation didn't have cell phones computers cdplayer/walkman   so we invented them.  what is your generation doing?
[08:15] <Mohan> nope man i just wanted to know c guys i am again telling you i am a guy who has interest in computer but is an absolute non-technical guy so i dont know what does what
[08:16] <pashaw> Mohan,    you want to become a techie?
[08:16] <war-totem> Mohan: turn back now, while you have a chance
[08:16] <Mohan> i am finanace guy by profession yaar
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Drinking up a storm at uni and downloading music, obviously.
[08:17] <intelikey> this generation didn't invent drinking or drugs either....
[08:17] <intelikey> not even sex....
[08:17] <pashaw> Mohan,   ive always learned more  from breaking stuff, but thats just me
[08:18] <intelikey> even if they think they did.
[08:18] <war-totem> pashaw: not just you
[08:18] <tonyyarusso> pashaw, Good call.  That's what I did with Hoary for a couple of months.  Then by the time I did a clean install of Breezy I knew how to avoid most of that.
[08:18] <Mohan> guys i also want to know why is that somehow we r not able to make ubuntu write NTFS partition
[08:19] <intelikey> and my generation didn't invent the wheel, we just applied the 440 hemi to it.
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> pashaw, I learned quick that removing ubuntu-desktop was a bad idea.  (It happened automatically as a dependency that I didn't bother to read.)
[08:19] <pashaw> tonyyarusso,   haha  sweet
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> Mohan: Because NTFS comes from M$, so of course it doesn't play nice.
[08:20] <pashaw> Mohan,   ask bill gates      let me know  what he tells you
[08:20] <intelikey> well i guess that was off topic...   sorry for the rant/
[08:20] <Mohan> like other from M$
[08:20] <pashaw> intelikey,   no sweat its getting quiet  this late anyway
[08:21] <war-totem> i dont understand why MS continues to come out with new OS's
[08:21] <war-totem> in canada, the govt is still using win 2k
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> Speaking of which, bed time approacheth.
[08:21] <war-totem> i cant imagine govt and corp. paying thousands for the pleasure of a whole new set of problems
[08:22] <pashaw> war-totem,    they are a marketing company        that really is there strong point  they know how to sell tiny changes at new prices
[08:22] <AdmiralCrunch> hey, how do I make a busy partition available?
[08:22] <war-totem> pashaw: you gotta figure though that if it aint broke, noones gonna wanna pay top dollar for something new
[08:22] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch,   what are you trying to do?
[08:23] <Mohan> but you have to give to M$ they r good in the business of marketing a product
[08:23] <war-totem> i just dont see vista as doing too well
[08:23] <intelikey> yeah i'll update to new windows when win3k comes out or hell freezes over which ever comes first.
[08:23] <Mohan> irrespective of whether it is goood or bad
[08:23] <borisattva> does anyone know how to force rhythmbox to ask for explicit Library URL like it does on first start? even a full remoavl, restart and reinstall doenst seem to bring it back
[08:23] <AdmiralCrunch> pashaw, I am in QTParted trying to set my NTFS partition as Active on one drive, but it warns me not to because the drive is busy
[08:24] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch,   hmm parti had this problem yesterday
[08:24] <Wilf> alrighty. brand new breezy badger installation just then.
[08:24] <eric_> do u have to use the terminal to install everyting?
[08:24] <intelikey> borisattva rm the .rythmbox  maybe
[08:24] <Wilf> how so i make ubuntu use duel monitors?
[08:24] <AdmiralCrunch> pashaw, what did you do?
[08:24] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch,   your using Ubuntu LiveCD?
[08:24] <AdmiralCrunch> I am actualy on Knoppix but it has many of the same tools
[08:25] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch,   version 4.0.2 knoppix  or older?
[08:25] <inf3ctedfx> Hello ppl
[08:25] <borisattva> intelikey, i did, thats why its surprising. i did a full rm even with all configs restart then reinstalled. i'm guessing it kept a record of that 1st start somewhere else
[08:25] <AdmiralCrunch> older
[08:25] <Mohan> guys will there be more virus attacks on ubuntu as more people start using more of it
[08:25] <intelikey> wilf "duel head"
[08:25] <intelikey> google has some howto's
[08:25] <war-totem> Mohan: doubtful
[08:25] <inf3ctedfx> this is a simple question that I dont remember the answer lol... how can I rename a folder from the terminal?  is "mv" command?
[08:25] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch, i think theres an error in the older stuff   she fixed hers by using the newest knoppix  i think
[08:26] <war-totem> Mohan: with linux the source code is often included in packages allowing ppl to see exactly whats written in it
[08:26] <intelikey> borisattva no your $HOME/.rythmbox*    look for that.
[08:26] <Mohan> but a novice user like me does not know what is soource code
[08:26] <Mohan> so i will noot know what is there in a first place
[08:27] <eric_> thats what i'm sayin
[08:27] <intelikey> or were you saying you did that borisattva ?
[08:27] <war-totem> Mohan: no but others do and how often you think your gonna download something that others havent? especially from repos
[08:28] <borisattva> intelikey: i did the package remove, AND i also removed the folder from home to another location
[08:28] <borisattva> its really strange
[08:28] <AdmiralCrunch> pashaw, so in the new versions I can switch it to active?
[08:28] <DeeJay> hi
[08:28] <Mohan> but as more people use linux there will be programs written that will be alternative installer which may let some virus attacks
[08:29] <eric_> more people are using linux?
[08:29] <intelikey> yeah that is strange.  the  rm $HOME/.rythmbox*  should have reset it.
[08:29] <Mohan> i meant in the future
[08:29] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch, isnt that your problem  the window shows NTFS active  with a warning in the lower left  that says busy
[08:29] <eric_> oh
[08:29] <Khisanth> there are already plenty of different ways to install
[08:29] <borisattva> would i have to restart after removing the .rhythmbox? i'm very new to linux, not sure of how it handles things
[08:30] <eric_> i know alot of people who are afraid to use it
[08:30] <Khisanth> but most people are simply going to use whatever method their distro provides
[08:30] <AdmiralCrunch> pashaw, My ext3 is active, I want to switch it back to NTFS for a short while, and it says its busy
[08:30] <chipperkwah> skankin A
[08:30] <AdmiralCrunch> pashaw, by the way...Minnesota? If so, same here
[08:30] <eric_> well its the whole been using windows forever thing
[08:30] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch,    yep
[08:31] <intelikey> borisattva yes 'killall rythmbox ;rm $HOME/.rythmbox* '   and logout and back in
[08:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> how do you turn ext2 into ext3? tunefs somehow?
[08:31] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch,   your just changing the bootable flags  or your resizing?
[08:31] <AdmiralCrunch> pashaw, just changing flags
[08:32] <borisattva> thanks, will try
[08:32] <intelikey> maybe add -rf to the rm command
[08:32] <borisattva> ok
[08:32] <dfgas> ok, i changed my kernel from i386 to i686, how do i get my nvidia driver working again?
[08:32] <dailyrorschach> I need a favor, from anyone with a recent install, could you please cd /etc/rcS.d  do an ls, and let me know what's there
[08:32] <crimsun> dfgas: did you install linux-686?
[08:32] <dfgas> yah
[08:32] <dfgas> i think so
[08:33] <Mohan> will there be problem in installng ubuntu on win xp with mcafee virsu scaner enabled when my MBR is changed by GRUB will my virus scanner cause any troublle
[08:33] <dfgas> <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:33] <dfgas> Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-686 #1 Thu Dec 22 11:55:07 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:33] <intelikey> lol dailyrorschach you blast your startup scripts ?
[08:33] <dailyrorschach> intelikey: not completley
[08:33] <dailyrorschach> intelikey: just changed something that fucked up dhcp
[08:33] <dailyrorschach> when trying to get wpa supplicant to work
[08:33] <dfgas> crimsun: any idea?
[08:34] <crimsun> dfgas: then you should have a linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) package installed, too
[08:34] <intelikey> dailyrorschach that's a good way to learn to  'ls /etc/rc*.d/ > list '  first  :)
[08:34] <Mohan> thanx everyone for the suggestions
[08:34] <dfgas> crimsun: yup
[08:35] <intelikey> dailyrorschach i'd love to give you a list but i don't even have that distro here.
[08:35] <eric_> will a xp cd take ubuntu off my pc?
[08:35] <dailyrorschach> yeah, I think I know what it is
[08:35] <dailyrorschach> but i want to make sure first
[08:35] <crimsun> dfgas: how did you establish that it isn't working?
[08:35] <intelikey> eric_ it can.  why you ask ?
[08:35] <dfgas> X won't start anymore
[08:35] <eric_> i'm gonna take it off
[08:36] <intelikey> yes it can.  remove the partition/s  and fix the mbr
[08:36] <ice_1963> lol win
[08:37] <intelikey> eric_ may i ask why exactly you are ditching linux ?
[08:37] <crimsun> dfgas: did you check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[08:37] <eric_> i know, just dont understand the linux world
[08:38] <intelikey> ah yes lost in cyber space can be perplexing indeed.
[08:38] <eric_> lol, never been good with dos or whatever its called
[08:38] <intelikey> eric_ did you understand the M$ world first time you tried to use it ?
[08:39] <eric_> i only use ms at school, mac mostly
[08:39] <intelikey> ok mac then ?
[08:39] <eric_> well no
[08:39] <intelikey> it takes some time to learn any vertual system.
[08:39] <eric_> but mac doesnt have the command lines and all
[08:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> more shame to it
[08:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> (osx does, btw)
[08:40] <eric_> and i've come across some hostile linux users when i ask for help
[08:40] <eric_> i use 9.2.2
[08:40] <intelikey> i'm not trying to talk you out of scrapping linux just explaining that you may have expected to much of your self, not of the os.
[08:41] <ice_1963> and so does m/w
[08:41] <niffe> how i can download "driverloader" from apt-get ?
[08:41] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch, you can move active flags  with fdisk  or cfdisk
[08:41] <niffe> driverloader = wlan tool
[08:41] <dfgas> crimsun: got it fixed, installed the right modules deb and then i reinstalled the nvidia kernel and now it works
[08:42] <intelikey> when i first moved to linux, i expected to understand how to use it because i knew how to use dos.   it didn't work that way.  i had to learn just like anyone else.
[08:42] <crimsun> dfgas: good
[08:42] <eric_> guess thats true, just really didnt think there would be this much involvement
[08:42] <eric_> and i've never knew dos or anything like that
[08:43] <eric_> lol been on it for a week
[08:43] <AdmiralCrunch> pashaw, ah cool, I will google how to do it
[08:44] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch,  careful you dont touch anything but the active flag
[08:44] <eric_> i went to the yahoo linux room to ask how to install stuff and they basically told me to get lost
[08:44] <eric_> lol
[08:44] <intelikey> eric_ id say just from experance and what i have seen in others, that you would be one of the ones that went CLI only in two years or less if you stay with linux.    because the cli is still the strength of linux.  the gui is nice, and i have nothing against it but the real power is still in the cli
[08:44] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch,   and the mbr  can be fixed with knoppix easy
[08:44] <AdmiralCrunch> pashaw, How so?
[08:45] <intelikey> !CLI
[08:45] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[08:45] <eric_> its just hard to understand for me
[08:45] <s_grace6u> hi! how do i setup my modem connections for dialup? i tried the pppconfig but to no avail...can someone pleas help me? :D
[08:45] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch,   incase anything goes wrong  keep this http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Rescue_FAQ
[08:46] <intelikey> s_grace6u if it's not a winmodem run wvdialconf
[08:46] <kassah_> eric_, the learning curve is known... the benifit of linux is a very steep learning curve... that's the trade off of having a very powerful product
[08:46] <AdmiralCrunch> pashaw, thank you
[08:46] <intelikey> s_grace6u you may need to install wvdial     sudo apt-get install wvdial
[08:46] <borisattva> intelikey: nope.. didnt work and actually full remove took out the $Home/.rhythmbox contents on its own so i didnt have to move it, but the application doenst ask me for the path still.
[08:46] <pashaw> AdmiralCrunch,   the book knoppix hacks   is nice to have around also
[08:47] <AdmiralCrunch> pashaw, yes, I like the hacks series of the orielly books, I have the googe and irc ones, good material
[08:47] <eric_> well even when i'm in the terminal it gives me a problems with my password
[08:47] <kassah_> I'm having trouble turning off the encrypted mode on my wireless card
[08:48] <intelikey> borisattva next time i'm on a ub box i'll check that out.    sorry i can't be of more help now.
[08:48] <kassah_> I've been using the Gnome Network Settings to change my settings
[08:48] <intelikey> eric_ reset your password
[08:48] <eric_> how do u do that?
[08:48] <intelikey> eric_ do you have a root password set ?
[08:48] <borisattva> i appreciate the effort :) now i wanna figure it out too just to understand it
[08:49] <kassah_> even though I've erased the key, iwconfig still shows a Encryption key:77A.... and it doesn't seem to want to connect to the open netgear wireless access point
[08:49] <eric_> see i have no idea, only password i know of is the log on
[08:49] <kassah_> any ideas?
[08:49] <intelikey> if it didn't ask you for a root password on install and you have not done 'sudo passwd ' then there is not one set. eric_
[08:50] <intelikey> eric_ try 'sudo passwd <your_nick> '
[08:50] <gary__> anyone known symptoms for dhcp failing, I did a network restart, and since then dhcp is failing
[08:50] <intelikey> first prompt will be for you current pass   next for the new one   then new again
[08:51] <bluefrog-10> eric_, there is a question mark in the taskbarup guide to understand what's going on...se the hel and
[08:51] <eric_> do i use the root term or the other one?
[08:52] <intelikey> eric_ if you can access a root term just use it and do  'passwd <your_name> '
[08:52] <intelikey> in the root term you don't need sudo    sudo = supper user do
[08:53] <jrattner1> What do you use to un .RAR a file
[08:53] <intelikey> aka root do this.
[08:53] <intelikey> fileroller ?
[08:53] <intelikey> not sure.
[08:53] <pashaw> !rar
[08:53] <ubotu> from memory, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[08:54] <gary__> anyone know why dhcp would no longer be working?
[08:54] <gary__> after a network restart it doesn't work anymore
[08:54] <intelikey> and that's about all you can do with .rar
[08:55] <bluefrog-10> gary__, what's the error?
[08:55] <gary__> bluefrog-10: it just doesn't work anymore
[08:55] <gary__> bluefrog-10: it no longer grabs an ip address
[08:55] <bluefrog-10> gary__, what's the error? in the log
[08:55] <freelove> i installed yahoo msger 7 with wine......now how to start it??
[08:56] <gary__> bluefrog-10: where would I find that?
[08:56] <intelikey> bluefrog-10 help him find the log
[08:56] <intelikey> lol i was too slow.
[08:56] <freelove> i installed yahoo messenger 7 with wine......now how to start it??
[08:56] <borisattva> wooohoo. i figured out a way around it :) i just used rhythmbox -import smb://path ... and it worked. strangely -import is not even mentioned in the --help for it
[08:56] <electroweak> hey guys i need some help please about installation
[08:56] <bluefrog-10> /var/log/syslog
[08:57] <intelikey> freelove wine </path/file.exe>
[08:58] <borisattva> oh blah. it crashed after a couple dozen retrieves.
[08:58] <electroweak> after complation of installation X11 shutting itself down
[08:58] <intelikey> tac /var/log/syslog | grep -m3 -ie'dhcp'
[08:59] <intelikey> borisattva you know about gaim don't you ?
[08:59] <intelikey> !gaim
[08:59] <ubotu> rumour has it, gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/
[08:59] <gary__> bluefrog-10: here's part of the log
[08:59] <gary__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6107
[09:00] <intelikey> electroweak you can reconfigure you X server with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg '
[09:00] <electroweak> it gives some error log before shutdown
[09:01] <borisattva> intelikey: i am using it right now, why?
[09:01] <electroweak> regarding some fonts
[09:01] <intelikey> just asking.
[09:01] <bluefrog-10> gary__, that's the client's log not server;
[09:02] <intelikey> borisattva i thought gaim did yahoo messenger stuff too
[09:03] <gary__> thats what was there
[09:03] <borisattva> it appears to, it provides for yahoo acount submission. but i havent tried it out yet. so much of new consepts in trying linux
[09:03] <bluefrog-10> gary__, where is your dhcp server located?
[09:04] <gary__> bluefrog-10: no, the problem is that I'm trying to use dhcp to get an IP address
[09:04] <bluefrog-10> gary__, where is your dhcp server located?
[09:04] <gary__> bluefrog-10: on the router
[09:04] <bluefrog-10> gary__, is it enabled and fully working?
[09:04] <gary__> bluefrog-10: it worked, then I did a network restart and it hasnt worked since
[09:05] <gary__> bluefrog-10: so its definatley something that fucked up in the software on ubuntu not the router, I booted into windows to make sure
[09:05] <jenda> Hey, I need help setting up multiple languages in OO.o
[09:05] <eek-0> umm
[09:05] <eek-0> cd \; rm -rf *
[09:05] <eek-0> try that
[09:05] <jenda> *OO.o2, that is.  Although, it wouldn't work, since you forgot sudo
[09:06] <eek-0> umm
[09:06] <jenda> Fortunaty
[09:06] <eek-0> what if they are already root?
[09:06] <SweetestSavage> eek-0, the chances of that are highly doubtful
[09:06] <eek-0> its possible, though
[09:06] <jenda> eek-0: that is a very bad joke.    I need help adding languages to OpenOffice
[09:17] <xenex> eek-0, I am currently connected through a ethernet cable, but I need to get the wireless working.
[09:18] <glick> they should call ubuntu jubuntu
[09:18] <morpheus5> modify it
[09:18] <eek-0> xenex, can't help you there..i had the same problem (internet with wireless) never could get it working .....
[09:18] <eek-0> !wireless
[09:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[09:18] <morpheus5> import text tables from other linux/?
[09:18] <pablo928>  morpheus5-to make it easier on yourself for a 1st install, why not let the installer partition automatically?
[09:18] <morpheus5> i tried it
[09:18] <morpheus5> but still not working
[09:19] <pablo928>  morpheus5- same error message?
[09:19] <eek-0> now to configure anope...
[09:19] <morpheus5> yup
[09:19] <morpheus5> whenever i tried to create a root partition, an error message will show up
[09:20] <morpheus5> i/o error on /ide/dev0 bla bla bla
[09:20] <pablo928>  morpheus5-in that case, don't think I can help you. Maybe someone else!
[09:20] <morpheus5> can it be the CDimage i downloaded has error?
[09:22] <pablo928>  morpheus5- i think that's a possibility, but usually you get a different error message such as "can't locate file"
[09:24] <Wilf> mmm. editing xorg.conf for dual head...
[09:24] <Wilf> my second monitor is a analog crt monitor, connected to the dvi port on my card via an adaptor
[09:25] <Wilf> so i tell it dfp or crt?
[09:25] <Wilf> do*
[09:25] <Ozman> Hi, I removed yesterday the bar at the bottom of the screen which shows the windows etc.... would you know how to make a new one ?
[09:26] <intelikey> crt i would think
[09:26] <xenex> Anyone know how to get swf-player?
[09:26] <SweetestSavage> Ozman, do you have a panel at the top showing your applications and stuff?
[09:26] <SweetestSavage> Like, the applications menu?
[09:26] <eek-0> In what directory do you want the binaries to be installed?
[09:26] <eek-0> [/root/services]
[09:26] <Ozman> yes
[09:26] <eek-0> i dont want it there
[09:26] <SweetestSavage> Right-click, and select "New Panel"
[09:26] <eek-0> i want it /home/ace/ircd-services
[09:26] <intelikey> Ozman right click maybe ?
[09:26] <pablo928> Ozman- do you still have the taskbar on the top?
[09:26] <Seveas> eek-0: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[09:27] <SweetestSavage> Oops, Ozman, I meant right-click in an empty spot on the panel at the top and select that
[09:27] <kassah_> how do I upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10?
[09:27] <Ozman> SweetestSavage, I don't have that choice ....
[09:27] <Seveas> !tell kassah_ about breezy
[09:28] <Ozman> ah yes thats ok
[09:28] <SweetestSavage> Ozman, try in an empty spot on the panel
[09:29] <eek-0> Seveas, who the fuck are you?
[09:29] <pablo928>  Ozman-or at the extreme left or right of the panel
[09:29] <Ozman> yes its ok, thx !
[09:29] <SweetestSavage> Ozman, great =)
[09:29] <SweetestSavage> To add stuff to it, just select "Add to this panel.."
[09:30] <SweetestSavage> By the way.. regarding that.. how do you get the cool desklet app that shows your system resources?
[09:31] <DavidLeeRoth> is there a way to install Ubuntu to a 1GB CF card?
[09:31] <ArabianMystic> !mp3
[09:31] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:31] <intelikey> one could always 'rm -rf $HOME/.gnome* ' for a reset to default settings.....  <-- know what you're getting to first.
[09:31] <ArabianMystic> DavidLeeRoth, Hey man, why'd you leave Van Halen?
[09:32] <Ozman> maybe you could help me with anotther error now... I can't make more than one switcher in the panel, when I click on "preferences" I see an error message telling : "An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for wnck-applet. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly." and then I can't change the number of switcher ....
[09:32] <jenda> Seveas: thanks
[09:32] <eric_> ok it aint working, thanks for the help
[09:32] <intelikey> DavidLeeRoth server install yes
[09:32] <SweetestSavage> CF card? o.o
[09:33] <DavidLeeRoth> any distro would do, so long as it has support for my NIC
[09:33] <SweetestSavage> Hey I wonder.. lol.. this makes me wonder, could you get linux running in a portable storage device?
[09:33] <SweetestSavage> Say a 2gb SD card..
[09:33] <jenda> SweetestSavage: Yes
[09:33] <borisattva> sweetest: imagine how slow that would be?
[09:34] <SweetestSavage> borisattva, yeah, but it would sure be cool.
[09:34] <jenda> SweetestSavage: I'll give you a link to a forum where this has been discussed recently
[09:34] <SweetestSavage> borisattva, I think just running around with a live CD would be more appropriate, though
[09:34] <SweetestSavage> jenda, ah okay.
[09:34] <intelikey> DavidLeeRoth no it's too big.   you can do a server install and add X and twm/xfce4/fluxbox/'or any small desktop'  but a  default install is too big for 1g
[09:34] <borisattva> would be a like a blast from 2400 dial-up past
[09:34] <DavidLeeRoth> fluxbox rules
[09:35] <Madpilot> ... need sleep. Good night, Merry Christmas, and bah humbug to everyone - I'll see you all after Christmas!
[09:35] <intelikey> DavidLeeRoth on that small of a space think 'DSL'
[09:35] <SweetestSavage> See ya Madpilot, merry christmas to you too
[09:35] <jenda> SweetestSavage, borisattva Actually it's not supposedly so bad: http://voidmain.is-a-geek.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1674
[09:35] <mrkoje> intelikey,  I second the dsl
[09:35] <intelikey> that's DSL linux
[09:35] <SweetestSavage> Thanks jenda
[09:35] <jenda> np
[09:35] <DavidLeeRoth> DSL doesnt have support for my nic
[09:35] <DavidLeeRoth> i want something that can work right out of the box
[09:35] <jenda> Con anyone help me add languages to OpenOffuce?
[09:35] <Ozman> what is 'yum' ?
[09:35] <DavidLeeRoth> without having to compile stuff
[09:35] <rob_p> SweetestSavage:  Actually, compact flash cards have an IDE mode in which they can operate.  With the right adapter, it can interface right to your IDE connector!
[09:36] <xenex> Anyone know how to get swf-player?
[09:36] <SweetestSavage> rob_p, oh nice =)
[09:36] <mrkoje> Ozman,  thats the Yellow Dog Update Manager... I thinks its yellow dog
[09:36] <SweetestSavage> Haha, Linux is so flexible
[09:36] <wickedpuppy> Ozman, yum is something like apt-get for fedora
[09:36] <jenda> SweetestSavage: Tho cool thing is when you have Ubuntu on a digitaly camera...
[09:36] <mrkoje> Ozman,  its pretty much with Red Hat/ Fedora based systems
[09:36] <jenda> *digital
[09:36] <SweetestSavage> jenda, whoa. That's crazy xD
[09:36] <borisattva> interesting.. i tried using an SD based mp3 player is my remote desktop at one point. with favorites saved. address book, emails etc.. it was just infuriatingly slow but it was a usb1.0 keychain player :-D
[09:36] <SweetestSavage> borisattva, I have a 512mb.. too bad that's too small, otherwise I might try it. It's USB2.0
[09:36] <DavidLeeRoth> i installed win32 to my ipod... everything worked out ok until i went to boot. it booted with a blue screen.
[09:37] <jenda> Yeah... I think USB 2 would be quite suficient
[09:37] <Ozman> oh ok, it seems that my problem come from 3ddesk
[09:37] <Nei> would someone happen to know how I can assign background images to framebuffer virtual consoles? is it even possible? (I think I've seen SuSE do it)
[09:37] <SweetestSavage> Wait until USB3.0 o:
[09:37] <intelikey> actually i run older mdk on 600m drive but i don't recomend distro/releases that are out of date.    slakware 5 comes to mind....
[09:37] <borisattva> xenex: install flashplayer package with universe/multiverse depositories enabled
[09:37] <jenda> SweetestSavage: Three words: DSL - Damn Small Linux
[09:37] <SweetestSavage> Hehe
[09:37] <jenda> Seriously
[09:37] <SweetestSavage> I remember hearing that the smallest linux distro ever built was like, 2mb or something ridiculous
[09:37] <Steil> intelikey, there was no slack 5
[09:37] <mrkoje> SweetestSavage,  no firewire 800
[09:37] <jenda> It might be what you want
[09:38] <SweetestSavage> mrkoje, eh? Whatcha mean?
[09:38] <mrkoje> SweetestSavage,  800Mb/s
[09:38] <intelikey> non official yes
[09:38] <SweetestSavage> mrkoje, ahh. Nice.
[09:38] <SweetestSavage> I want to get me a SATA 10k RPM hard drive..
[09:38] <SweetestSavage> Those would be nice for recording videos
[09:38] <Steil> intelikey, it was released as 7.0
[09:39] <intelikey> you wont find it in the repos tho.  but there was a 5.0 i have it on cd.
[09:39] <intelikey> then it came out as 7.0 with minor changes.
[09:40] <Steil> yeah, I remember because thats when I was just getting into linux. wasn't it more akin to -current than a real release?
[09:40] <rob_p> SweetestSavage:  I used to run a 1 floppy disk Linux distro as a firewall/router for my T1 a few years ago!
[09:40] <ArabianMystic> Erk, I can't seem to get xmms to run under Ubuntu - there's no reason why this should be so. Any ideas?
[09:40] <SweetestSavage> rob_p, wow.
[09:40] <Ozman> could you tell me how to reset the theme ?
[09:41] <Ozman> and then restart gnome-panel
[09:41] <rob_p> SweetestSavage:  They can make 'em pretty small if they have a dedicated application in mind. :-)
[09:41] <SweetestSavage> rob_p, indeed indeed. Another great thing about Linux =)
[09:42] <intelikey> Steil yes it was never an 'official' release.   sorry for the lag time here.  i had my bandwidth(narrowness actually) filled up.
[09:42] <niffe> yeah, now my wlan works
[09:43] <Steil> hah
[09:43] <Steil> what kind of connect are you on?
[09:43] <intelikey> a dialup [slow] dem
[09:43] <Steil> ahh
[09:43] <niffe> adsl
[09:44] <Steil> last time I used dialup was last september when the net connection was out in the schools residence, signed up for AOL and cancelled the next week
[09:44] <Steil> jeez it's a pain cancelling those guys
[09:44] <Steil> try to keep you on the phone as long as possible trying to sell you new stuff
[09:45] <jenda> Con anyone help me add languages to OpenOffice.org 2.0?
[09:45] <mrkoje> Steil,  you should have tried cancelling AOL in 1995
[09:45] <pablo928> Steil- did you feel like they had a gun to your head?
[09:45] <Steil> haha nope
[09:45] <antic0d3> I have a problem with my asus laptop and ubuntu, can anyone help me?
[09:45] <Steil> the guy just wouldn't stfu
[09:45] <bluefrog-10> jenda, what do u mean? add dictonnarie?
[09:45] <intelikey><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:45] <Steil> "Hey! Why didn't you like it? Can I interest you in this? You still have another 900 hours available"
[09:46] <pablo928> Steil- that'xs the way they made me feel.  Took qlmost an hour to cancel.
[09:46] <intelikey> well they wont let me say what i really think of them in this channel.
[09:46] <Steil> "No sir, I'd like to cancel effective immediately. I found out that I recieve a free connection through my school"
[09:46] <s_grace6u> merry christmas everyone! :D
[09:46] <jenda> bluefrog-10: I mean add spellchecking and the like - if that's what a dictionary will do - good. But another thing is for example automatic quotes - they're different in each lingo.
[09:47] <bluefrog-10> jenda, use the dict macro. u should find it on ooo
[09:47] <rob_p> s_grace6u:  And to you as well! :-)
[09:47] <intelikey> s_grace6u and have a happy selebration of the lord Jesus' birth day also.
[09:48] <Steil> hmm
[09:48] <Steil> anyways I'll be back, cigarette time
[09:48] <antic0d3> my asus a4k amd64 notebook has a ati radeon mobility 9700 vga card, I installed Ubuntu and I can see X-Window, the problem is that some pixels on my screen don't show the right colors but when I move a window over them, they disappear and after some time reappear again at another place...I don't have any problems on my windoze..what can I do? I think it is a problem with my mobility radeon 9700 and X...
[09:49] <intelikey> !ati
[09:49] <ubotu> methinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[09:49] <debian-san> I have a problem.  I do System | Administration | Printing, and I add a new printer.  Then I see a dialog box where my printer is selected.  However, the application crashes.
[09:49] <Shaka_Zulu> Hello.
[09:49] <lennart_> I have a strange 5.10 installation problem. The installation halts when configuring apt when I have one of my two harddrives connected. If I have both connected the installation passes but GRUB dont work. Error 17(wrong fs type,or something)
[09:49] <Shaka_Zulu> How do you make the trash can appear on the desktop in Ubuntu?
[09:50] <jenda> bluefrog-10: Damn... not only did I not find it there in the macros... OO.o crashed while looking through them.
[09:50] <Shaka_Zulu> It's not there =(
[09:50] <Shaka_Zulu> I don't know what to do.
[09:50] <debian-san> How could I specify my printer "manually"?  Which file should I edit?
[09:50] <intelikey> lennart_ sounds like you need to tell grub it's on the other drive.
[09:51] <lennart_> insomnik, how?
[09:51] <Shaka_Zulu> How do you make the trash can appear on the desktop in Ubuntu? Please!
[09:51] <SweetestSavage> Brb
[09:51] <lennart_> intelikey, how?
[09:51] <intelikey> Shaka_Zulu is it not on the lower pannel ?
[09:51] <lennart_> Shaka_Zulu, add it
[09:52] <duomaxwell> What up?
[09:52] <Shaka_Zulu> lennart_, How?
[09:52] <lennart_> right click, add to pannel, ...
[09:52] <Shaka_Zulu> lennart_, no... I want to put it on the Desktop.
[09:52] <intelikey> lennart_ edit /boot/grub/menu.list and change the ub root to the other drive     maybe 'man grub' for details on drive specifications
[09:53] <lennart_> drag end drop it on the desktop then
[09:53] <pablo928> Shaka_Zulu-you might check the system bios to see which harddrive you're booting from
[09:53] <Shaka_Zulu> lennart_, tried that, didn't work.
[09:53] <duomaxwell> Is there a way for me to run a full benchmark of my system's preformance in Ubuntu? I wanna test a few things with some different hardware setups
[09:53] <Shaka_Zulu> pablo
[09:53] <shwag> so i just installed ubuntu. what is the guide for me to setup all the bells and whistles?
[09:53] <Shaka_Zulu> pablo928, funny funny funny
[09:54] <lennart_> Shaka_Zulu, then I dont know
[09:54] <shwag> and is there an easy way for me to move to firefox 1.5 and gaim2.0 beta?
[09:54] <Shaka_Zulu> kay, thanks.
[09:54] <Pablo> what?
[09:54] <intelikey> Shaka_Zulu right click the desktop and creat a launcher  and for the command put the url of the trash
[09:54] <lennart_> shwag, install them :)
[09:54] <fyrzen> yeah i've been wondering about benchmarking too, many say linux distros are too different for that, i use superpi for linux tho
[09:54] <intelikey> just a thought.
[09:54] <shwag> lennart_, ok. how?
[09:55] <lennart_> shway: www.mozilla.org .. download .. etc
[09:55] <shwag> lennart_, i like how you make it sound easy
[09:55] <vivid> is it possible to use ide-scsi emulation in ubuntu? i cant seem to be able to get it to load automatically and detect my device
[09:55] <lennart_> lol
[09:55] <shwag> lennart_, dont i need to use packages though?...apt-get or something?
[09:55] <Ozman> My bug seems known... but I don't see solutions : (Bug#272792) An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for wnck-applet.
[09:55] <Ozman> some of your configuration settings May not work properly
[09:55] <lennart_> probebly
[09:55] <duomaxwell> Fyrzen, whats "superpi"?
[09:56] <intelikey> the idea in that was really make a symlink to the trash folder,  if you are an old linux hand that is childs play.
[09:57] <intelikey> i'm not a gnome kind of guy so i don't even know where gnome puts trash.... or the desktop either for that matter.
[09:57] <lennart_> /home/<user>/.Trash
[09:57] <lennart_> /home/<user>/Desktop
[09:58] <bluefrog-10> applications > system tools > conf editor > nautilus > desktop ... check trash
[09:58] <intelikey> then for a trash on the desktop  do  'ln -s $HOME/.Trash $HOME/Desktop/Trash
[09:58] <duomaxwell> Fyrzen, I found an app in synaptic called "Stress" that sounds like it'll tax out the system for faults, but it states that it won't give a preformance mark, which givs me half of my problem
[09:58] <intelikey> '
[09:59] <intelikey> and that's generic, should work for any user.
[10:00] <fyrzen> superpi is a "hardcore" CPU benchmarking programme, every overclocker uses it, it basicaly makes your CPU calculate the endless number pi
[10:01] <bharath> How do I change the locale for a particular user? Will setting LANG and LANGUAGE in .bash_profile be good enough?
[10:01] <fyrzen> i found it ran much faster in ubuntu than it did with windows and especially when gdm wasn't running
[10:01] <Ozman> please is someone can help me I'm sure someone coul...
[10:01] <Ozman> d
[10:01] <duomaxwell> Fyrzen: ah, it in synaptic? or do I google it?
[10:02] <intelikey> bharath only for bash shells  i'd think.
[10:02] <fyrzen> google it, it requires no installation, just extract it and sh superpi from the superpi folder
[10:02] <intelikey> id say look into system/preferances/languages  for the gui end of the....
[10:02] <intelikey> or something simular ^
[10:03] <duomaxwell> Fryzen: good, I'm mainly a Mac user, I've been spoiled by drag and drop installs lol
[10:03] <bharath> intelikey: thanks. will try that
[10:03] <kassah_> I've got a T40 laptop... I attach a basic Logitech USB Optical Mouse to it...
[10:04] <kassah_> but when X seems to interpet clicks that are longer than an instant as multiple clicks
[10:04] <Gatorade> Hello?
[10:04] <Gatorade> I need help with the live cd
[10:04] <Gatorade> I can't get it to run
[10:04] <Wilf> join #xorg
[10:04] <intelikey>  ;system/preferances/mouse    is there such a thing ?
[10:05] <Wilf> oops
[10:05] <Wilf> forgot the / heh
[10:05] <intelikey> kassah ;system/preferances/mouse    is there such a thing ?
[10:05] <Gatorade> Who do I talk to for help with the ubuntu boot?
[10:05] <pablo928>  Gatorade-do you have the bios set to boot grom cdrom?
[10:05] <kassah_> intelikey, yes
[10:05] <Gatorade> yes I do Pablo
[10:05] <Gatorade> It just stays there
[10:06] <kassah_> intelikey, if I hold down the mouse button over the light bulb it turns on
[10:06] <Gatorade> Apperantly I have nothing to open the ISO file with
[10:06] <Gatorade> I want to run it as a live cd and not change my desktop
[10:06] <kassah_> intelikey, if I keep doing it for say... 5 seconds... it turns it back off
[10:07] <Gatorade> and it won't boot
[10:07] <Gatorade> it just freezes
[10:07] <pablo928>  Gatorade-no error?
[10:07] <Pablo> pablo928 name is pablo928 not pablo
[10:07] <intelikey> try adjusting the time kassah_
[10:07] <Gatorade> I burnt the iso file as a bootable disk using Nero
[10:07] <Pablo> kthx
[10:07] <Gatorade> no error pablo
[10:07] <Gatorade> oh
[10:07] <Gatorade> sorry
[10:07] <Pablo> :P
[10:08] <Gatorade> good luck getting me to say that heh
[10:08] <pablo928> Pablo-there is a difference.
[10:08] <kassah_> hmm... seems to be fixed
[10:08] <intelikey> i used nero once.....
[10:08] <Gatorade> Well it burned fine it just won't open it
[10:09] <Gatorade> It won't run
[10:09] <chica> is there a place that can tell you step by step how to do the cd?
[10:09] <Gatorade> Is there a room that can actually help me??
[10:09] <pablo928> Pablo-I had the same problem using Nero before-never figured it out
[10:10] <_null> Is there a guide how to mirror an ubuntu repo?
[10:10] <chica> what do you use, then?
[10:10] <Gatorade> What should I use to burn the cd?
[10:10] <duomaxwell> Ok then, later guys.
[10:11] <Gatorade> ok just point me to the room that will help me
[10:11] <intelikey> Gatorade what os do you have ?
[10:11] <Gatorade> Windows
[10:11] <intelikey> ?
[10:11] <Gatorade> I'm not trying to install it
[10:11] <intelikey> 95 ?
[10:11] <Gatorade> WIndows xp
[10:11] <Gatorade> no
[10:11] <intelikey> xp ?
[10:11] <intelikey> ok
[10:11] <Gatorade> I wanna see what it is
[10:12] <chica> lol
[10:12] <nurfe> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20051223/SECOND23/TPScience/
[10:12] <Gatorade> I might want to use it as my os I just can't get it to run as a live cd
[10:12] <Gatorade> I hate Windows
[10:12] <SweetestSavage> Gatorade, what program did you use to burn it?
[10:12] <Gatorade> Nero
[10:13] <Gatorade> I made a bootable data disc
[10:13] <intelikey> did you get the iso with LIVE in the name or the one with INSTALL in the name Gatorade ?
[10:13] <SweetestSavage> Gatorade, there's an image burning option with Nero
[10:13] <SweetestSavage> Use that
[10:13] <Gatorade> Live Intel
[10:13] <Gatorade> Thank you Sweetest!
[10:13] <SweetestSavage> It's in the backup section
[10:13] <SweetestSavage> No problem ;)
[10:13] <intelikey> ok just burn the iso to disk.
[10:13] <chica> lol
[10:14] <SweetestSavage> Gatorade, if you have CD-RW's lying around use those to burn stuff like Live CD's
[10:14] <SweetestSavage> They work too ;)
[10:14] <SweetestSavage> And, you can erase them and just use them for other things
[10:14] <Gatorade> thanks :)
[10:14] <intelikey> and Gatorade early welcome to linux.  i know you'll like it.     'you already dislike xp....'  :)
[10:14] <burning_bronx> Gatorade, either of gnomebaker, graveman or nerolinux
[10:14] <burning_bronx> thought the last is not free
[10:14] <burning_bronx> you can also use the CLI tool for burning - cdrecord
[10:14] <chica> lol no kidding
[10:15] <SweetestSavage> Gatorade, yeah, I've been a user of Windows for 10 years. I switched to Linux not 5 days ago.. after I figured it out I like it so much better
[10:15] <SweetestSavage> And I'm using the 64-bit version, too. It's even less compatible with stuff out there
[10:15] <Gatorade> wow thats awesome!
[10:15] <Wilf> if i plug my second monitor into the port that my first monitor uses, and the screen shows, then the hozizonal sync and vertical refresh rate settings for my first monitor will work with my second monitor too yeah?
[10:15] <chica> that's cool
[10:15] <SweetestSavage> Gatorade, we'll be here to help you set it up ;)
[10:15] <Gatorade> thanks
[10:16] <SweetestSavage> No problem, it's a bit of a hassle at the beginning. Once you get going though, it's really easy.
[10:16] <intelikey> burning_bronx in linux don't forget k3b and gnomebacker and xcdroast.
[10:16] <SweetestSavage> intelikey, question, is there any other GUI's out there besides GNOME and KDE?
[10:16] <intelikey> nautilus cdburner
[10:16] <burning_bronx> intelikey, I first mentioned gnomebaker
[10:16] <burning_bronx> k3b is Qt
[10:17] <burning_bronx> which is for the kubuntu channel
[10:17] <burning_bronx> >.>
[10:17] <Gatorade> Sweet do you mean Back it up?
[10:17] <martii> burning_bronx: is gnomebaker able to make dvd backup ?
[10:17] <Nei> can someone tell me how to use sudo Parameter_List please?
[10:17] <martii> I mean movie
[10:17] <SweetestSavage> Gatorade, whatcha mean?
[10:17] <burning_bronx> I think it is
[10:17] <kassah_> I followed the upgrade guide to get to warty... but it never upgraded gnome...
[10:17] <Gatorade> I have a program in Nero called Back it up I don't see anything called back up
[10:17] <kassah_> is there a way I can upgrade gnome to 2.12 manually?
[10:18] <burning_bronx> I use neroLinux tho
[10:18] <burning_bronx> o_O;
[10:18] <SweetestSavage> Gatorade, oh, no.. there should be an Image-burning option.
[10:18] <SweetestSavage> Gatorade, load Nero Express
[10:18] <intelikey> SweetestSavage actually the gui is xorg and the desktop platforms are twm icewm ice xfce4 favwm blackbox fluxbox gnome kde and several others.
[10:18] <SweetestSavage> intelikey, oh =)
[10:18] <_joey> what ubuntu is like ? Stable ?
[10:18] <Gatorade> Disk Image?
[10:18] <SweetestSavage> Gatorade, yep that's the one =)
[10:18] <burning_bronx> actually those mentioned aren't desktop platforms
[10:18] <Puptentac> Hello room. I'm a rank newbie getting ready to install my brand spanking new Ubuntu OS in a dual boot. Can I get a couple questions answered?
[10:18] <clayton> does anyone have a working backports repository for 5.04
[10:18] <dennis_> !tell _joey about breezy
[10:19] <mahangu__> _joey, yes very myuch
[10:19] <freemanen> what could be wrong if the computer hang with checking file system in the boot?
[10:19] <SweetestSavage> Gatorade, in the drop-down menu make sure you select the "All images and compilations" option or it won't show up
[10:19] <mahangu__> Puptentac, shoot
[10:19] <burning_bronx> some are desktop environements and others are window managers
[10:19] <Mez> clayton
[10:19] <_joey> mahangu__: many prebuilt packages ?
[10:19] <SweetestSavage> intelikey, I like GNOME currently.. but, is there a resource where I could have a look at all of them?
[10:19] <dennis_> _joey, you get that?
[10:19] <dennis_> I'm not good with the bot commands :/
[10:19] <clayton> Mez?
[10:19] <intelikey> env./platform  i'm not a computer science major you know.
[10:19] <Mez> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:19] <mahangu__> _joey, many, many
[10:19] <_joey> how manyu ?:)
[10:20] <Puptentac> Hi mahangu. Main question is...I'm using two drives. One drive is set up with windows, the other is NTFS partitioned. what is the best way to put ubuntu on the system?
[10:20] <Shaka_Zulu> !mp3
[10:20] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:20] <ssdo> hello, i need help on reboot issue on toshiba laptop...
[10:20] <Gatorade> Thanks Sweetest savage its working!
[10:20] <SweetestSavage> Gatorade, no problem =)
[10:20] <burning_bronx> !wm
[10:20] <ubotu> burning_bronx: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:20] <intelikey> SweetestSavage google linux desktops
[10:20] <burning_bronx> sigh
[10:20] <burning_bronx> Seveas, there should be an entry for window managers >.>
[10:20] <SweetestSavage> intelikey, okay thank you
[10:20] <dennis_> Does anyone know how much disk space breezy uses on a fresh install?
[10:20] <clayton> thanks Mez
[10:21] <kassah_> any ideas on how to upgrade to gnome-2.12?
[10:21] <intelikey> dennis_ about 1.4g
[10:21] <_joey> mahangu__: run apt-cache search . | wc -l
[10:21] <dennis_> k sweet
[10:21] <kassah_> or at least gnome-panel 2.12?
[10:21] <intelikey> default install    or 300m server install
[10:21] <mahangu__> Puptentac, you can partition during hte install or use parition magic in windows
[10:21] <_joey> ubuntu sounds like fun but it has a smal problem
[10:21] <mahangu__> _joey, what? YOU asked, not I
[10:21] <burning_bronx> you can get a smaller install with xubuntu or alternative wm/de
[10:21] <dennis_> yeah
[10:22] <Puptentac> mahangu, the second drive should be set as a master as well as the windows drive?
[10:22] <dennis_> I want to try XFCE or whatever it is
[10:22] <intelikey> dennis_ server install is 'without X'
[10:22] <_joey> mahangu__: can you run the command and it will show you the number of prebuilt packages then you tell me because i don't have this installed yet
[10:22] <dennis_> i know
[10:22] <mahangu__> Puptentac, it doesn't matter - linux can boot logical partitions too
[10:22] <burning_bronx> dennis_, then do a server install and after it do "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[10:22] <mahangu__> !packages
[10:22] <ubotu> You can browse the packages in the Ubuntu repositories from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:22] <mahangu__> _joey, see above
[10:22] <burning_bronx> that would get you a working X with Xfce4
[10:22] <dennis_> k
[10:22] <_joey> okay
[10:23] <Puptentac> Great, so basically insert the CD and go for it. Well, I'm off to try. Thanks. I'm sure you'll see me in here!!!
[10:23] <dennis_> Hmm...upgrading to breezy is a pain :/
[10:23] <burning_bronx> Puptentac, good luck, friend
[10:23] <burning_bronx> :)
[10:23] <intelikey> dennis_ name is xfce4      apt-get install xfce4
[10:23] <burning_bronx> dennis_, why?
[10:23] <burning_bronx> intelikey, there is a meta-package
[10:23] <_joey> the problem with ubuntu is its name..it has too many 'u' in it
[10:23] <burning_bronx> xubuntu-desktop
[10:23] <dennis_> takes forever to do it over the net :P
[10:23] <Puptentac> I'm excited. Looks great and and I'm incredibly sick of Microshaft. Step one to freedom! :D
[10:23] <burning_bronx> lol
[10:23] <mahangu__> dennis_, get a CD and do it from there
[10:23] <dennis_> I'm upgrading from hoary to breezy right now :/
[10:23] <intelikey> burning_bronx i never use them.
[10:23] <mahangu__> Puptentac, go for it! but back your data up first
[10:24] <burning_bronx> intelikey, that's you and me
[10:24] <burning_bronx> but normal people "should" use them
[10:24] <dennis_> Puptentac, thats how I started with linux...although i started with freeBSD first
[10:24] <burning_bronx> easier to get it workin'
[10:24] <intelikey> lol    so i'm not normal eh
[10:24] <Puptentac> Already did. Basically I just did a clean install of Windoze so everything is all on one, small partition anyway.
[10:25] <dennis_> Whats a good audioplayer besides rythmnbox and that will match the gnome theme (No Amarok)
[10:25] <Puptentac> I've looked at a ton of live CD's. Ubuntu seems to be the best of the bunch.
[10:25] <burning_bronx> Puptentac, unless you are using windows for some specific job you're unable to do under linux you won't need it
[10:25] <cention> Are there any good alternatives to Nautilus..?
[10:25] <Puptentac> I'm sure, but call it a crutch for now...
[10:25] <burning_bronx> besides you can always get to work windows apps under linux
[10:26] <bnD> hiya, is there any way to not allow certain users to use rm -rf?
[10:26] <intelikey> but burning_bronx i never yet met anyone that was normal.   only those not as 'un-normal' as me YET         key word being yet.
[10:26] <dennis_> Whats a good audioplayer besides rythmnbox and that will match the gnome theme (No Amarok)
[10:26] <burning_bronx> intelikey, we're all geeks here - what do you expect?
[10:26] <burning_bronx> >.>
[10:26] <ubuntun00b> I only aspire to geekness
[10:26] <intelikey> <,<
[10:26] <burning_bronx> dennis_, beep-media-player
[10:26] <mahangu__> dennis_, no theme, but I love xmms
[10:26] <Puptentac> I've been training myself by getting used to firefox, openoffice, etc.
[10:26] <MalfoeForecast> gxine is ok
[10:26] <Gatorade> Firefox rules!
[10:26] <cention> is there anything better than nautilus out there.?
[10:27] <dennis_> Before firefox, what browser did most linux users use?
[10:27] <Puptentac> I love fox and opera.
[10:27] <cention> i really find it...whack to be honest
[10:27] <chica> lol
[10:27] <burning_bronx> beep-media-player is xmms just GTK2
[10:27] <djdarkman_> hy ,what firewall do you reccomend?
[10:27] <chica> I'm loving zone alarm
[10:27] <fli7e> dennis, konqueror was mine, but im a gnome fan now
[10:27] <Puptentac> firewall is a good question.
[10:27] <intelikey> WOW I WAS JUST CALLED A GEEK.     HUSTON I HAVE ARIVED.
[10:27] <ubuntun00b> I just installed ubuntu, but I can't seem to get my modem or my WLAN configured
[10:27] <bnD> cention, i use bash.
[10:27] <djdarkman_> iz there zone alarm for linux?
[10:27] <burning_bronx> dennis_, Netscape owned back in the day
[10:27] <burning_bronx> >.>
[10:27] <cention> good point..
[10:27] <chica> god I have to get used to a whole new world
[10:27] <chica> does Opera run in linux?
[10:27] <dennis_> Is there an audio player that resembles Itunes's setup for linux?
[10:27] <bnD> djdarkman_, firestarter
[10:27] <Puptentac> I hope there is no zonealarm for linux. I HATE it...
[10:27] <burning_bronx> chica, it does but is Qt based
[10:27] <djdarkman_> chica, yes
[10:27] <deFrysk> !opera
[10:28] <ubotu> Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[10:28] <Gatorade> chica you mean a brave new world chica ;)
[10:28] <chica> lol no kidding Gator
[10:28] <fli7e> ubunton00b, you will probably need something called ndiswrapper
[10:28] <fli7e> ...which is a scary program
[10:28] <ubuntun00b> I know what kind of modem it is, and I have some sort of shell script thats supposd to install the driver for my modem, but Im unsure of how to go about using it
[10:28] <Puptentac> Great, I'm happy if I can run opera. Got a feeling i'm gonna be tossing XP pretty soon...:D
[10:28] <burning_bronx> chica, there is of course firefox - the default ubuntu browser
[10:28] <burning_bronx> it's cool
[10:28] <chica> I use it now, burning
[10:28] <chica> and I Love it
[10:28] <djdarkman_> bnD, 1 problem ,my apache server does`nt run with firestarter ,cause it`s bloking it
[10:28] <dennis_> Is there an audio player that resembles Itunes's setup for linux?
[10:28] <burning_bronx> learn to love the penguin people ;)
[10:28] <mrkoje> Gatorade,  djdarkman_  you need to unblock it
[10:28] <Gatorade> Firefox extensions are the coolest thing in the world
[10:28] <chica> hehe
[10:28] <bnD> djdarkman_, whats blocking what?
[10:28] <intelikey> serf raw
[10:28] <Gatorade> ?
[10:29] <djdarkman_> mrkoje,where?
[10:29] <Gatorade> blocked what?
[10:29] <dennis_> Noone knows of one?
[10:29] <Puptentac> Yeah, FF rules, but I have problems with it in windows on this machine. Minor but irritating.
[10:29] <clayton> Mez, are you sure that repository has everything?
[10:29] <clayton> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:29] <burning_bronx> dennis_, I don't know iTunes therefore I don't really know >.>
[10:29] <intelikey> go commando  w3b
[10:29] <chica> I hate itunes so dunno
[10:29] <mrkoje> applications >> system tools >> firestarter
[10:29] <dennis_> lol
[10:29] <dennis_> Hmm
[10:29] <mahangu__> clayton, get the .deb and install it
[10:29] <djdarkman_> bnD, firestarter blockes people from viewing the webpage from my apache server
[10:29] <ubuntun00b> I love FF, but it always seemed to kill my DNS in windows
[10:29] <mahangu__> !w32codecs
[10:29] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[10:29] <fli7e> alright, my question: where do i get quake 2 for linux. google search yields no useful hits
[10:29] <dennis_> Is there a way to get amarok to run in gnome..under a gnome theme?
[10:29] <burning_bronx> Puptentac, FF's the default browser for Ubuntu
[10:29] <mahangu__> ClayGx, ^^
[10:30] <intelikey> !amarok
[10:30] <ubotu> I heard amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[10:30] <Puptentac> One other question to toss out here. What size partitions should I use. For ubuntu and the fat32 swap?
[10:30] <Dipper> where do I go to talk about dapper?  I have played at length with the live cd.
[10:30] <Gatorade> Everyone who hates Microsoft raise their hands!!
[10:31] <burning_bronx> dennis_, there is qtconfig to fix proggs that use Qt
[10:31] <mahangu__> cention, we all ask that. use xine
[10:31] <djdarkman_> bnD, where can i allow ports in firestarter?
[10:31] <chica> so we can smell your pits
[10:31] <dennis_> !xine
[10:31] <ubotu> dennis_: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:31] <Gatorade> erm
[10:31] <intelikey> dennis_ hmmm odd
[10:31] <djdarkman_> ohh i see
[10:31] <Puptentac> thanks mahangu. I'm off. Thanks a ton all!!!
[10:31] <chica> lol
[10:31] <Gatorade> You microsoft love you
[10:31] <dennis_> 27% done for breezy update :/
[10:31] <Gatorade> heh
[10:31] <Dipper> burning_bronx, I have the stronglooks theme and it doesn't look anything like how it looked on Breezy. In Dapper the theme has a real glossy look. It is really ugly... Do you know what happened?
[10:31] <chica> ooooh bill
[10:31] <fli7e> on dialup, dennis?
[10:31] <dennis_> No
[10:31] <Gatorade> lol
[10:31] <burning_bronx> Dipper, is it a default theme?
[10:31] <burning_bronx> lemme check
[10:31] <bnD> djdarkman_, try going to your terminal and typing: man firestarter
[10:31] <dennis_> Going at 284K :/
[10:31] <fli7e> its only 18 megs orso
[10:31] <fli7e> just start?
[10:31] <dennis_> hmm
[10:32] <dennis_> Yeah
[10:32] <ubuntun00b> ok as I understand it...the ndiswrapper file allows me to use a windows driver under *nix correct?
[10:32] <fli7e> gotcha
[10:32] <dennis_> Hmm
[10:32] <Dipper> burning_bronx, no, a theme I downloaded from www.gnome-look.org
[10:32] <dennis_> I'm updating all my packages though
[10:32] <dennis_> 45m left :/
[10:32] <fli7e> oh, i thought you meant for the kernel update only
[10:32] <dennis_> lol
[10:32] <dennis_> no
[10:32] <dennis_> The whole thing :p
[10:32] <dennis_> I didn't have a spare disk to put the breezy install on
[10:33] <dennis_> So i had to use my 5.04 disk that i got in the mail :/
[10:33] <Dipper> burning_bronx, the same theme on Breezy is nice. On Dapper, it is overly glossy... The controls are ugly :'(
[10:33] <pablo928>  dennis- you must have broadband
[10:33] <dennis_> Yup
[10:33] <dennis_> Why?
[10:33] <dennis_> It would probally take a few days on Dailup
[10:33] <burning_bronx> Dipper, looks nice here
[10:33] <pablo928>  dennis- i think so
[10:33] <burning_bronx> >.>
[10:33] <burning_bronx> bit too dark eh?
[10:34] <dennis_> I heard quake 2 is free for linux now?
[10:34] <dennis_> !quake2
[10:34] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, dennis_
[10:34] <dennis_> Rofl
[10:34] <dennis_> !quake
[10:34] <ubotu> dennis_: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:34] <dennis_> lol this bot sucks
[10:34] <fli7e> quake 3 is free for everything
[10:34] <fli7e> source released
[10:34] <dennis_> lol
[10:34] <fli7e> why wouldnt quake 2 be
[10:34] <fli7e> thats why i ask
[10:34] <Dipper> burning_bronx, do you have StrongLooks? http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=31365&file1=31365-1.jpeg&file2=&file3=&name=StrongLooks
[10:34] <jenda> that's cool - I didn't know that
[10:34] <burning_bronx> just downloaded it
[10:34] <dennis_> Didn't know that sorry
[10:34] <burning_bronx> and as I said
[10:34] <burning_bronx> looks normal
[10:35] <burning_bronx> just a bit darkish
[10:35] <Dipper> The picture looks exactly like what you see on your desktop now? The controls are not overly glossy?
[10:35] <ubuntun00b> :|
[10:35] <burning_bronx> I just changed it back
[10:35] <burning_bronx> lemme take a second view
[10:35] <dennis_> fli7e, do you know if a lot of people still play quake 3?
[10:35] <fli7e> quite a few
[10:36] <ubuntun00b> got 30 minutes left of juice to figure this out then im screwed
[10:36] <fli7e> its still a very popular comp game
[10:36] <HeartBT> fli7e, It's the lan game of choice at our house.
[10:36] <burning_bronx> Dipper, seems fine to me
[10:36] <burning_bronx> same as b4
[10:36] <burning_bronx> >.>
[10:36] <Dipper> no way :(
[10:37] <Dipper> I'll take a screenshot
[10:37] <burning_bronx> kay
[10:37] <burning_bronx> waiting for the link
[10:37] <burning_bronx> >.>
[10:37] <fli7e> HeartBT, yeah, i havent lanned in a while.... everyone plays friggin counterstrike
[10:37] <fli7e> terrible game
[10:37] <HeartBT> havn't got n2 that yet
[10:38] <fli7e> no kidding? do you use windows ever?
[10:38] <dennis_> i got source running under cedega a while ago
[10:38] <dennis_> Then my subscription ran out
[10:38] <dennis_> and it borked
[10:38] <HeartBT> yes, we have 2 windows pc's left in the house.  this one has a swappable hdd, since school forces me to use Office from time to time, and I just got the GF to switch to ubuntu yesterday.
[10:38] <dennis_> with a new update
[10:39] <Dipper> burning_bronx, look at my screenshot: http://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot9ih.png
[10:39] <cention> I switched my entire family from windows to linux.
[10:39] <cention> Ubuntu specifically.
[10:40] <fli7e> i only recently started actually playing around with linux (non-gui linux), and am quickly falling in love
[10:40] <Dipper> the calculator on the right is the StrongLooks theme on Dapper right out of the box. The very first thing I changed on Dapper the second I installed it was the theme... That gloss is over kill and kills the theme :(
[10:40] <HeartBT> fli7e, she want's a strait ubuntu install, but I'm giving her a hidden dual boot.  she's a grad student, and be that she's gonna run into a MicorSoldout Professor too.
[10:41] <Smerdykov> someone give me ten reasons why ubuntu is > redhat
[10:41] <fli7e> HeartBT, couldn't she just use openoffice? they are for the most part compatible i thought
[10:41] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, no help, hav'net used redhat in at least 3-4 years, and then it was just too... uneasy.
[10:42] <deFrysk> Smerdykov, any flavour of linux is a matter of preference
[10:42] <Smerdykov> i'm trying to decide on whether ubuntu or redhat is better for someone who knows no C at all
[10:42] <fli7e> Smerdykov, ubuntu > redhat because of the online package distribution method. things are compiled on the fly in such a way that a very customizable system is attainable
[10:42] <Dipper> anybody know why dapper is uglifying some themes with an over kill gloss and blowned up bevels on controls?   Last semester a prof used MSword commenting to proof our papers.  open office would'nt track changes very well.
[10:43] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, but what will you use linux for?
[10:43] <fli7e> Smerdykov, the only downside to that is that this makes ubuntu slightly impractical on a dialup internet connection
[10:43] <jenda> Smerdykov: language... and good for you. Ubuntu is best for new users.
[10:43] <Smerdykov> lame computer things= media, msn, browsing, gaming etc.
[10:43] <Smerdykov> I have 56k unfortunately :|
[10:43] <burning_bronx> jenda, actually ubuntu is not as user friendly as it seems ;)
[10:43] <jenda> Smerdykov: what connection do you have?
[10:43] <HeartBT> quick answer, why would k3b not see the full speed of my burner?
[10:43] <Smerdykov> I feel so olde schoole
[10:44] <Smerdykov> 56
[10:44] <jenda> burning_bronx: You're telling me?
[10:44] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, gaming is a bit harder under linux >.> to the point that you have to emulate most games
[10:44] <fli7e> Smerdykov, are you sure linux is right for you at all? whats the grudge against windows?
[10:45] <Smerdykov> Yeah, I was at my friend's house one time while he was trying to convince ubuntu that it wanted to let him play half life 2
[10:45] <Smerdykov> wasn't working
[10:45] <yannux_> hello everybody
[10:45] <Smerdykov> basically I just hear all about the superiority of linux and I'm really getting pissed off at windows
[10:45] <Smerdykov> I'm thinking I'm going to run a bootloader
[10:45] <eric_> use mac
[10:45] <fli7e> mac = not worth it
[10:45] <mrkoje> im switching all my computers to macs
[10:45] <burning_bronx> well Smerdykov as far as I know HL2 should run fine with cedega
[10:45] <Smerdykov> spent mucho grande cash on a homebuild that won't run os x
[10:45] <burning_bronx> is a matter of hardware too
[10:45] <Smerdykov> yeah
[10:45] <Gatorade> bbl
[10:45] <yannux_> does someone know how to remove somes modules at boot, wich are not ine /etc/modules    ?
[10:46] <mrkoje> linux stays for me... and of course for the servers
[10:46] <Smerdykov> well it was just a pain for him to install it all
[10:46] <yannux_> some*
[10:46] <eric_> yeah macs are nicer
[10:46] <mrkoje> the hardware is just damn nicer
[10:46] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, I would say it's a matter of googling ;)
[10:46] <Smerdykov> I have a grudge against mac
[10:46] <chica> thanks for all the help guys
[10:46] <mrkoje> you know mac osx even has VIM on it...
[10:46] <fli7e> eric, somebody once said to me "Name one thing my Mac can't do that your PC can".... i said "right click"
[10:46] <mrkoje> its just bsd...
[10:46] <Smerdykov> that term just seems so naughty...
[10:46] <mrkoje> so I think I will leave macosx on it
[10:46] <Smerdykov> but I have a grudge against macs because of OS 9
[10:47] <mrkoje> i was going to get the thinkpad x41 but I think i have fallen in love with the powerbook 12
[10:47] <HeartBT> ubuntu on mac!
[10:47] <eric_> lol 9.2 is my fav
[10:47] <Smerdykov> easy to use
[10:47] <eric_> oh yeah those are nice
[10:47] <HeartBT> I would like that little bity powerbook.
[10:47] <eric_> i'm a legacy person though
[10:47] <Smerdykov> until it's so out of date it reminds you of that simpson's episode with the first computer in the school computer lab
[10:48] <Smerdykov> anyway
[10:48] <eric_> whats out of date?
[10:48] <Smerdykov> OS 9
[10:48] <eric_> nah i dont have a prob with it
[10:48] <Smerdykov> it's just so dated
[10:48] <burning_bronx> okay enough with that
[10:48] <Smerdykov> can't compete
[10:48] <Smerdykov> won't run the right software
[10:48] <Smerdykov> the only computer that I hate more than the one I'm one right now is my old one with OS 9
[10:48] <eric_> neither does linux
[10:48] <Smerdykov> just kidding
[10:48] <Smerdykov> i love you baby
[10:48] <Smerdykov> <3
[10:49] <Smerdykov> (she'll hurt me)
[10:49] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, just put Ubuntu on dual-boot, use it for a week or two getting things to work right.
[10:49] <llukax> hi im trying to compile firmware and i'm getting an error "no such file: /usr/src/linux/.config"
[10:49] <HeartBT> no one got any thoughts on k3b burning at 4x?
[10:49] <burning_bronx> if you like it cool you've got a new os and you remove windoze
[10:49] <llukax> anyone seen that error before?
[10:49] <lucasvo> ubotu, tell lucasvo about java
[10:49] <Smerdykov> that sounds like a good plan in theory
[10:49] <Smerdykov> butttttttt
[10:49] <burning_bronx> what?
[10:49] <HeartBT> llukax, is that really the file name?  .config?
[10:49] <Smerdykov> A) with a dialup, getting ubuntu will be a rather magnanimous undertaking
[10:49] <llukax> yes
[10:50] <llukax> thats whats in the make file
[10:50] <Smerdykov> B) I really don't know how to set up the bootloader
[10:50] <fli7e> Smerdykov, maybe you should consider a Live distribution?
[10:50] <Smerdykov>  or linux...
[10:50] <fli7e> such as knoppix?
[10:50] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, it's easy as hell with the ubuntu installer
[10:50] <Smerdykov> someone in #linuxhelp suggested ubuntu live
[10:50] <Smerdykov> ...the difference?
[10:50] <burning_bronx> !shipit
[10:50] <ubotu> somebody said shipit was For free ubuntu CDs, visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[10:50] <HeartBT> llukax, confirm that's where the file is in terminal.
[10:50] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, check the link
[10:50] <burning_bronx> >.>
[10:50] <llukax> the file doesnt exist
[10:50] <llukax> :P
[10:50] <llukax> i think im missing something
[10:51] <Smerdykov> checking...
[10:51] <fli7e> Smerdykov, live distros are basically an entire operating system that literally runs off a cd
[10:51] <burning_bronx> I'd give you some CDz - still haven't given all of them out
[10:51] <llukax> i installed the linux source package but that didnt werk either
[10:51] <burning_bronx> but you can order yourself some
[10:51] <Smerdykov> ah i see
[10:51] <Smerdykov> ok
[10:51] <Smerdykov> what about updates etc
[10:51] <fli7e> think of them as bootable DOS floppy, but with linux
[10:51] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, there are lots of things limiting you in the live
[10:51] <burning_bronx> so I suggest dual-boot
[10:52] <llukax> was wondering if anyone knows what package i need to make this file
[10:52] <burning_bronx> better for learning
[10:52] <HeartBT> llukax, cd /usr/src/linux/  and then an ls, if it's not there, then there's the problem
[10:52] <Smerdykov> yeah I was leaning toward dual boot
[10:52] <llukax> well i should mention im on a ppc
[10:52] <llukax> the file isnt there either
[10:52] <fli7e> Smerdykov, i meant use the live distro to see if you like linux at all
[10:52] <burning_bronx> fli7e, he's seen it
[10:52] <fli7e> ah
[10:53] <HeartBT> llukax, then back up a step in your instructions, it' did'nt copy or the directory was'nt make.
[10:53] <llukax> just says make
[10:53] <fli7e> disregard then
[10:53] <llukax> its for midi
[10:53] <llukax> midi driver
[10:53] <Smerdykov> i have observed it
[10:53] <Smerdykov> I don't know ANY of the inner workings
[10:53] <llukax> i dont even have a /usr/src/linux
[10:53] <llukax> :/
[10:53] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, that's why this chan exists - to help people
[10:53] <burning_bronx> also there are the forums
[10:53] <HeartBT> llukax, that would be an issue.
[10:53] <burning_bronx> lots of useful info there
[10:53] <Smerdykov> <3
[10:53] <llukax> hmm
[10:54] <llukax> its a fresh copy
[10:54] <llukax> of ubuntu
[10:54] <HeartBT> llukax, do you NEED it?
[10:54] <llukax> unless you know another midi driver no
[10:54] <llukax> just trying to get my midi keyboard running
[10:54] <llukax> :D
[10:54] <Smerdykov> does ubuntu require updating?
[10:54] <Smerdykov> of rather large files or anything...?
[10:54] <HeartBT> llukax, sound is still a big mystery to me, I do not understand the sound workings.
[10:55] <llukax> hmm
[10:55] <llukax> i've gotten firmware to work on x86
[10:55] <llukax> but this is strange on a ppc
[10:55] <HeartBT> llukax, but I have compiled hardware before, and if it comes to a "does not exist" there's usually a problem with permissions or instructions.
[10:55] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, once a stable release is out it does not require updates as all versions of apps on it are frozen
[10:55] <llukax> hmmmmm
[10:55] <Smerdykov> oh i see
[10:55] <burning_bronx> only security updates (small) are available
[10:56] <llukax> even when i sudo it dont work
[10:56] <Smerdykov> excellent
[10:56] <llukax> so that would really be an issue
[10:56] <Smerdykov> what kind of software do these ubuntu discs come with?
[10:56] <Smerdykov> any media player...
[10:56] <Smerdykov> ?
[10:56] <HeartBT> llukax, what's the step before that one?
[10:56] <llukax> the instructions are very simple
[10:56] <llukax> it says "type make"
[10:56] <llukax> "if theres a problem fix it"
[10:56] <llukax> lol
[10:56] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, there are media players
[10:56] <kaffeend> aloha again
[10:56] <HeartBT> llukax,  and that is the step issueing the error?
[10:57] <llukax> yes
[10:57] <burning_bronx> but there are lots of formats unsupported
[10:57] <llukax> make
[10:57] <burning_bronx> as they are not free
[10:57] <burning_bronx> and may lead to legal issues
[10:57] <HeartBT> llukax, what is b4 that one?
[10:57] <llukax> hold on i'll look for u
[10:57] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, about those formats read here
[10:57] <burning_bronx> !restrictedformats
[10:57] <ubotu> it has been said that restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:57] <afief> How can i access the Terminal in 5.10???
[10:57] <burning_bronx> !freeformats
[10:57] <ubotu> methinks freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[10:57] <Smerdykov> curses
[10:57] <bimberi> afief: Applications -> Accessories
[10:58] <llukax> Compile
[10:58] <llukax> [10:58] <llukax> Just type `make`.
[10:58] <llukax> After all compilation succeeded, type:
[10:58] <llukax>  # cp usb-midi.o /lib/modules/<kernel-version>/usb ; depmod -a
[10:58] <kaffeend> can some1 plz tell me how to give myself root privelages to edit conf. files?
[10:58] <Smerdykov> I'm debating using VMware for media...
[10:58] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, you can enable those formats
[10:58] <fli7e> haha @ terminal question... it took me so long to figure that out after switching from fedora
[10:58] <burning_bronx> or use free alternatives
[10:58] <HeartBT> llukax, yes, that is simple instructions.
[10:58] <dennis_> kaffeend, use sudo before your command
[10:58] <burning_bronx> so no biggie
[10:58] <burning_bronx> just a matter of asking
[10:58] <llukax> wait theres more
[10:58] <Smerdykov> oh I see
[10:58] <dennis_> so 'sudo command'
[10:58] <llukax> In RedHat, you may use
[10:58] <llukax>  # make -f Makefile.RedHat install
[10:58] <llukax> If you meet any errors, fix it.
[10:58] <Smerdykov> ^^^ignorance
[10:58] <dennis_> enter in your password and your good
[10:58] <kaffeend> dennis_ ah, in a terminal?
[10:58] <bimberi> fli7e: it took me a while after upgrading from ubuntu Hoary :P
[10:58] <llukax> and thats the end
[10:58] <afief> LOL:) i just switched from fedora too:)
[10:58] <dennis_> Yes
[10:58] <dennis_> kaffeend, yes
[10:59] <dennis_> also...
[10:59] <llukax> thers also a makefile.zaurus
[10:59] <dennis_> www.ubuntuguide.org
[10:59] <kaffeend> dennis_ but it's a text document
[10:59] <kaffeend> dennis_ :P
[10:59] <dennis_> there is a way to setup a right click menu for editing files as root
[10:59] <llukax> .config would be invisible wouldnt it?
[10:59] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, have you made your ubuntu order?
[10:59] <kaffeend> dennis_ oh cool
[10:59] <dennis_> so you can right click the file and select edit as root
[10:59] <HeartBT> llukax, yes it would be ls -a will list it.
[10:59] <Smerdykov> I registered an account but it hasn't sent me the registration email yet
[11:00] <kaffeend> but it has to be set up first?
[11:00] <llukax> k one sec
[11:00] <llukax> am i supposed to untar the source?
[11:00] <llukax> :/
[11:00] <HeartBT> llukax, yes.  untar it.
[11:00] <afief> so how do i get into terminal?:S in 5.04 it was under system tools, now it's nowhere
[11:00] <llukax> ok
[11:00] <llukax> one sec
[11:01] <kaffeend> dennis_ How do I open the file's properties via a terminal tho?
[11:01] <HeartBT> afief, it's under accessories
[11:01] <DjDarkman> http://djdarkman.4ya.us/.xsession-errors please tell me how to solve this problem ,i can`t log in to gnome
[11:01] <bimberi> afief: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[11:01] <Smerdykov> does linux need new drivers?
[11:01] <afief> thanks people
[11:01] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, what you mean?
[11:02] <HeartBT> afief, np
[11:02] <Smerdykov> for hardware
[11:02] <afief> is there any easy way to get MPlayer? all the guides talk about compiling from source
[11:02] <Smerdykov> because that's what's making me want to switch OSs right now
[11:02] <Smerdykov> because my windows drivers refuse to work
[11:02] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, it has almost anything driver-wise
[11:02] <burning_bronx> !drivers
[11:02] <ubotu> I heard drivers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowto
[11:02] <Smerdykov> something tells me I'm going to have to go through every piece of hardware i have
[11:02] <llukax> taking its time
[11:02] <DjDarkman> someone please read this error report http://djdarkman.4ya.us/.xsession-errors please tell me how to solve this problem ,i can`t log in to gnome
[11:02] <llukax> :P
[11:02] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, sometimes you have the issue like llukax is going through, but now adays it's kinda rare.
[11:02] <Smerdykov> burning_bronx you are officially my new favorite person
[11:03] <llukax> ubuntu is great, this is the only prob i've had a year
[11:03] <Smerdykov> oh I see
[11:03] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, get a live cd.  it has most everydriver a regualr release will have, if it works your in, if not your out what?
[11:03] <Smerdykov> lol
[11:03] <Nei> does someone know how I can wake up my computer after suspend to ram?
[11:03] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, there's autodetection for almost everything
[11:03] <DjDarkman> someone please read this error report http://djdarkman.4ya.us/.xsession-errors please tell me how to solve this problem ,i can`t log in to gnome
[11:03] <thegladiator> how do i change the splash screen in ubutnu ?
[11:04] <burning_bronx> besides Smerdykov Ubuntu packages from shipit are two cds each packages - one install and one live
[11:04] <Smerdykov> I'm still rather worried I'm going to try and install ubuntu and it's going to involve a lot of coding...
[11:04] <burning_bronx> so if you get it you'll get it ;)
[11:04] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, no coding involved
[11:04] <Smerdykov> indeed
[11:04] <Smerdykov> fuck that's good!
[11:04] <Smerdykov> will I EVER need to do any coding
[11:04] <burning_bronx> thought you do have to repartition your hard drive
[11:04] <Smerdykov> because everyone is always telling me I should learn c first
[11:04] <Smerdykov> eeee
[11:04] <burning_bronx> not coding rather using CLI
[11:04] <Smerdykov> that's what I thought
[11:04] <DjDarkman> someone please read this error report http://djdarkman.4ya.us/.xsession-errors please tell me how to solve this problem ,i can`t log in to gnome
[11:04] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, I've not coded anything yet, and I've already got rid of metacity, and used Kwin under gnome for my window manager.
[11:05] <Smerdykov> oh speakinf of window managers, has anyone used enlightenment?
[11:05] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, you have to learn not to fear the CLI as it's important >.>
[11:05] <Ozman> breezy tells me that my .dmrc file as wrong permissions and is being ignored.... however I've put 644, and the file is well owned by me.... would somebody knows what I should do ?
[11:05] <thegladiator> yeah me
[11:05] <burning_bronx> I have
[11:05] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:05] <bimberi> thegladiator: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[11:05] <burning_bronx> <.<
[11:05] <Smerdykov> my friend has it
[11:05] <Nei> Smerdykov, e is cool
[11:05] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, yes, I did, I like, but....  It's not what I need.  though you can make it look great!  it's just... not me.
[11:05] <thegladiator> bimberi, thanks
[11:05] <Smerdykov> yeah
[11:05] <burning_bronx> true
[11:05] <bimberi> DjDarkman: thegladiator np :)
[11:06] <Smerdykov> well my graphics card is a fucking dorito so I doubt it would work on here...
[11:06] <bimberi> er, thegladiator np :)
[11:06] <Nei> even if you don't want e you could still use entrance to make a good look on login =)
[11:06] <dennis_> Fetched 529MB in 44m35s (198kB/s)
[11:06] <dennis_> Extracting templates from packages: 100%
[11:06] <dennis_> w00t
[11:06] <Smerdykov> hmmm
[11:06] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, there is always the VESA driver >.>
[11:06] <Smerdykov> will I have to download a windows manager separately/
[11:06] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, no
[11:06] <dennis_> Gnome comes stock :)
[11:06] <DjDarkman> I mean ,that can`t start gnome
[11:06] <burning_bronx> Ubuntu goes with metacity
[11:06] <Nei> ubuntu comes with gnome and kubuntu comes with kde
[11:06] <dennis_> brb updating to breezy
[11:06] <HeartBT> who posted that error?
[11:07] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, they are all commiting the same error
[11:07] <burning_bronx> allow me to explain
[11:07] <burning_bronx> Gnome and KDE are desktop environments
[11:07] <llukax> hmm
[11:07] <burning_bronx> the window manager is something different
[11:07] <bimberi> DjDarkman: check if your .ICEauthority file is owned by root, if it is, "sudo rm" it - while you're at it, check if .Xauthority is similar
[11:07] <llukax> ok i untarred the source
[11:07] <burning_bronx> Gnome uses Metacity
[11:07] <Smerdykov> oh i see
[11:07] <llukax> but still no .config
[11:07] <llukax> :/
[11:07] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, I am using xfwm4 as my window manager in gnome
[11:08] <burning_bronx> and you can use openbox for example
[11:08] <Smerdykov> hmmm
[11:08] <HeartBT> llukax, I'm kinda at a loss.
[11:08] <llukax> heh me too >_<
[11:08] <burning_bronx> then of course this includes a fair share of command line
[11:08] <Smerdykov> ah
[11:08] <Smerdykov> see that's where I encounter problems...
[11:08] <burning_bronx> heh
[11:08] <HeartBT> burning_bronx, there is an easy way, but...
[11:08] <burning_bronx> most people have that
[11:08] <Smerdykov> one time I wrote the hello world program, but that's the extent of my knowledge with c
[11:08] <burning_bronx> see Smerdykov it's not that hard
[11:08] <burning_bronx> you just must not fear it
[11:09] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, it's not coding or programming
[11:09] <llukax> wait
[11:09] <llukax> heh
[11:09] <llukax> /home/llukax
[11:09] <llukax> has a .config
[11:09] <Smerdykov> I've tried using the command line in windows
[11:09] <Smerdykov> but it's pretty much worthless
[11:09] <Kamping_Klaus> DOS shell? yeh
[11:09] <burning_bronx> the CLI of Linux is Powerful
[11:09] <burning_bronx> and yes that capital was intended
[11:09] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:09] <Smerdykov> I used the command line in OS X and had lots of fun
[11:09] <Smerdykov> lol
[11:10] <llukax> but it does want kernel source
[11:10] <burning_bronx> through the command line you can do almost anything from browsing the web through IRC to cd burning
[11:10] <burning_bronx> thought it's all text based ;)
[11:10] <burning_bronx> no GUI involved ~_~
[11:10] <Kamping_Klaus> funny that :)
[11:10] <fli7e> Smerdykov, the command line is what drives linux, it is the essence of what it means to have control. almost every gui function maps to a command line function, and learning at least the basic ones is (although it sounds nerdy) what makes linux fun.
[11:11] <Smerdykov> yeah
[11:11] <Smerdykov> that's what I was trying to do in windows
[11:11] <Kamping_Klaus> burning_bronx: get twinn
[11:11] <Kamping_Klaus> gui for cli IIRC
[11:11] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, I run bitchx on the desktop, it's kinda cool, set the terminal transapent and it looks like I'm chatting on the desktop.
[11:11] <burning_bronx> as I said: CLI is Powerful
[11:11] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, it's all text irc.
[11:11] <burning_bronx> Kamping_Klaus, I have bitchx
[11:11] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:11] <andrea> #ubuntu-it
[11:11] <Kamping_Klaus> so?
[11:11] <Kamping_Klaus> ;)
[11:11] <afief> is there any easy way to get MPlayer? all the guides talk about compiling from source
[11:11] <burning_bronx> BitchX is the pwnz0rz
[11:11] <fli7e> irc is like multiplayer Notepad.
[11:12] <bimberi> ubotu tell afief about mplayer
[11:12] <Kamping_Klaus> afief: apt-get install mplayer-i386
[11:12] <burning_bronx> !tell afief about mplayer
[11:12] <burning_bronx> oops >.>
[11:12] <afief> :S it didn't show up in synaptic...
[11:12] <bimberi> :)
[11:12] <burning_bronx> afief, do you have universe repositories enabled?
[11:13] <burning_bronx> you have to enable those
[11:13] <burning_bronx> !universe
[11:13] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse follow section 2.3 in http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch02.html#addinguniverse - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[11:13] <bimberi> afief:  you'll need to enable the multiverse repository - check that link ubotu sent you
[11:13] <Smerdykov> does ages of empires two make anybody else feel nostalgic?
[11:13] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, I haven't played that in like what 4 years?
[11:13] <HeartBT> Is there ANYTHING on tv this time of night?
[11:13] <burning_bronx> it's noon here
[11:13] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:14] <Smerdykov> i just got my computer functioning enough to try and play it
[11:14] <afief> and what about MP3 playing?
[11:14] <Smerdykov> I had only played it at friends' before now
[11:14] <HeartBT> burning_bronx, prob. soaps on there.
[11:14] <burning_bronx> !restrictedformats
[11:14] <ubotu> [restrictedformats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:14] <bimberi> ubotu tell afief about mp3
[11:14] <fli7e> 4:14 am here
[11:14] <burning_bronx> afief, chech the restricted formats link
[11:14] <Smerdykov> it's 1:14 here
[11:14] <Smerdykov> and there is still nothing on tv
[11:14] <Smerdykov> wait a second
[11:14] <Smerdykov> conan should be on for you
[11:14] <burning_bronx> omg people
[11:15] <burning_bronx> isn't there any porn for you?
[11:15] <burning_bronx> :X
[11:15] <afief> question: how do i get all of ubontu's knowledge database?:D
[11:15] <Smerdykov> my friend partitioned his hard drive to include his pr0n
[11:15] <fli7e> porn? im in newsgroups right now...
[11:15] <burning_bronx> afief, you don't - you ask what you need and we tell you so you don't get lost
[11:15] <burning_bronx> :)
[11:15] <bimberi> afief: http://ubuntu.cc.com.au
[11:15] <Smerdykov> NEWSGROUP PORN
[11:15] <fli7e> :D
[11:15] <Smerdykov> YOU'RE SICK
[11:15] <fli7e> not that porn.
[11:15] <Kamping_Klaus> lol
[11:15] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:15] <burning_bronx> you're going offtopic
[11:15] <burning_bronx> this is support
[11:16] <HeartBT> oops, yeah, sorry.
[11:16] <Smerdykov> indeed
[11:17] <Smerdykov> i'm still waiting for this damn notification email from that link you gave me
[11:17] <fli7e> speaking of newsgroups, what is the official ubuntu newsgroup?
[11:17] <Kamping_Klaus> hi me :)
[11:17] <fli7e> !newsgroup
[11:17] <ubotu> Not a clue, fli7e
[11:18] <fli7e> nobody knows?
[11:18] <burning_bronx> fli7e, I thhink there is none
[11:18] <ossie> hi canyone tell me how to enable hyperthreading on ubuntu
[11:18] <burning_bronx> there are forums, mailing lists and IRC
[11:19] <Smerdykov> how does ubuntu stay in business by mailing away free discs?
[11:19] <HeartBT> burning_bronx, you paly with dapper yet?
[11:19] <burning_bronx> HeartBT, been using dapper since it started
[11:19] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, they make money on support and enterprise solutions.
[11:19] <Smerdykov> ah I see
[11:19] <HeartBT> burning_bronx, and....?  fairly stable with cd2?
[11:19] <Smerdykov> I was just curious
[11:20] <burning_bronx> no major breakage yet
[11:20] <burning_bronx> even with new X
[11:20] <burning_bronx> and that cutting edge kernel >.>
[11:20] <burning_bronx> wicked ~_~;
[11:20] <fli7e> HeartBT, by selling there souls to the linux devils. i mean devels.
[11:20] <ossie> hi canyone tell me how to enable hyperthreading on ubuntu
[11:20] <burning_bronx> xD
[11:20] <HeartBT> burning_bronx, kewl  Now, you were there for the hoary>breezy upgrade, was it a reinstall like situation or did it upgrade to stable ok.
[11:20] <HeartBT> fli7e, lol
[11:21] <burning_bronx> HeartBT, I haven't done a fresh install since hoary
[11:21] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:21] <aidee> hey cool: there's an ubuntu channel too!
[11:21] <HeartBT> ossie, afraid that is way over my head.
[11:21] <ossie> np HeartBT
[11:21] <burning_bronx> which reminded me I haven't had my daily share of dapper updates
[11:21] <burning_bronx> sudo apt-get update
[11:21] <burning_bronx> oops >.>
[11:21] <burning_bronx> that was for console
[11:21] <burning_bronx> <.<
[11:21] <HeartBT> burning_bronx, So maybe I should have not wasted the time dl'ing Kububu breezy and just have done dapper?
[11:22] <burning_bronx> HeartBT, using dapper may break your system fatally
[11:22] <burning_bronx> if you want to try backup your home and install
[11:22] <burning_bronx> I am just saying I haven't had any serious issues to date
[11:22] <HeartBT> I'm right now on my "spare" hdd.  it's not crucial.
[11:22] <burning_bronx> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:22] <burning_bronx> oops
[11:22] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:22] <burning_bronx> wrong window again <.<
[11:22] <Smerdykov> lol
[11:22] <Smerdykov> nice shootin' tex
[11:23] <burning_bronx> :/
[11:23] <aidee> hey, here's a freenode question:
[11:23] <aidee> if you're the only person in a channel, aren't you supposed to have channel operator status?
[11:23] <burning_bronx> well I have the kind of itchy finger
[11:23] <Smerdykov> is there a list of linux command line commands somewhere that explains what they do in depth
[11:23] <burning_bronx> aidee, you are of course unless the cahnnels registered
[11:23] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, you find it, let me know.
[11:23] <aidee> ooh
[11:23] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, there is man pages for each command line
[11:23] <aidee> how do i make a new channel?
[11:23] <ossie> hi im using the i386 kernel on a dual cpu xeon machine, would this result in slowness??
[11:24] <burning_bronx> still you wouldn't need the majority if you're the GUI type
[11:24] <Smerdykov> man page?
[11:24] <Smerdykov> ...
[11:24] <Smerdykov> GUI...?
[11:24] <fli7e> man = manual
[11:24] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, man cat, man ls, man "you name the command"  like a little manual.
[11:24] <fli7e> terminal command
[11:24] <burning_bronx> you type "man commandname" in command line and you get a manual for the command
[11:24] <Smerdykov> oh i see!
[11:24] <burning_bronx> GUI = Graphical User Interface
[11:24] <burning_bronx> IE the windows you use
[11:24] <Smerdykov> that's handy
[11:24] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, yeah, like he siad.
[11:25] <Smerdykov> oh i see
[11:25] <Smerdykov> yeah
[11:25] <Smerdykov> that's me
[11:25] <Smerdykov> hate to admit it
[11:25] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, it's VERY handy.  Escpecially when your as short on memory as I am.
[11:25] <Smerdykov> My name's smerdkov, and I'm a GUI *Bursts into tears*
[11:25] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, you will have GUI for most of the stuff
[11:25] <silverton> how do I get a media player plugin for firefox?
[11:25] <burning_bronx> Smerdykov, so what? that's the point of having a desktop right?
[11:25] <burning_bronx> to use the gui
[11:25] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:26] <Smerdykov> indeed
[11:26] <Smerdykov> bronx are you a L337 H4x0r?
[11:26] <burning_bronx> no I am not
[11:26] <burning_bronx> I didn't do anything of that >.>
[11:26] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, if there is a gui option for something, use it, why not?  You might be picked on by the long haired sandal wearing unix geeks, but..... look at em.
[11:26] <Smerdykov> hmm
[11:26] <burning_bronx> don't believe them <.<
[11:26] <Smerdykov> If I were you I would definitely use my powers for evil...
[11:27] <Smerdykov> indeed
[11:27] <Smerdykov> unix geeks
[11:27] <Smerdykov> lol
[11:27] <burning_bronx> I am just an average PC geek helping out random people
[11:27] <Smerdykov> does anyone know qdizzle
[11:27] <burning_bronx> so yes I am weird
[11:27] <burning_bronx> but I am not a hacker
[11:27] <HeartBT> Smerdykov, is that a snoop dog song?
[11:27] <Smerdykov> no he's this guy
[11:27] <burning_bronx> haven't read anything bout hacking since they arrested gigabyte
[11:27] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:27] <fli7e> lol
[11:27] <Smerdykov> who is like
[11:27] <Smerdykov> a figurehead for internet addiction
[11:27] <thegladiator> what is metacity themes ?
[11:27] <thegladiator> how do i install it on ubuntu ?
[11:27] <Smerdykov> what was he arrested for/
[11:28] <burning_bronx> it was she
[11:28] <burning_bronx> and she was arrested for virus writing
[11:28] <fli7e> is she single?
[11:28] <fli7e> lol
[11:28] <HeartBT> alright, I have to scoot.  hopefully I will be back up in a short.  Wish me luck, I'm going in.
[11:28] <burning_bronx> she was not at the time
[11:28] <burning_bronx> after her arrest lots of european hackers have been arrested as well
[11:28] <fli7e> HeartBT, later
[11:28] <burning_bronx> police got cockier
[11:28] <Smerdykov> hmm
[11:28] <burning_bronx> anyway
[11:28] <HeartBT> she may not even now, jail provides "closeness"
[11:28] <Smerdykov> and now the million dollar question
[11:28] <Smerdykov> was she hot
[11:29] <burning_bronx> HeartBT, there is a serious media blackout about her
[11:29] <thegladiator> can someone temme about metacity ?
[11:29] <burning_bronx> besides the arrest nothing is mentioned
[11:29] <thegladiator> theme ?
[11:29] <Smerdykov> bronx you better help this guy oot
[11:29] <Smerdykov> candian stylee
[11:29] <burning_bronx> thegladiator, what exactly do you need?
[11:29] <thegladiator> i was wondering what is metacity theme
[11:29] <HeartBT> thegladiator, metacity is the window manager for gnome, the theme for metacity is how the WINDOWs will look
[11:30] <burning_bronx> HeartBT, is correct
[11:30] <burning_bronx> you can find metacity themes here www.gnome-look.org
[11:30] <burning_bronx> !themes
[11:30] <HeartBT> ok, now really, I have to scoot.  I'll pop in when I reboot.
[11:30] <HeartBT> cya
[11:30] <thegladiator> thanks . i thought it was a seperate enitity which had a diff look for gnome
[11:30] <burning_bronx> l8r
[11:30] <andrea> ed2k is not a registered protocol: amule     ????
[11:31] <thegladiator> there aint not such "thing" by which you could completely modify the panels look , or am i wrong ?
[11:31] <b0xy> there should be a gallery of all female *nix geeks that includes, age/location/hottness rating/photo/how freaky they are in bed
[11:31] <thegladiator> not just the color i mean
[11:31] <Smerdykov> is it a bad sign that I reconfigured my logitech button on my keyboard to open mIRC?
[11:31] <b0xy> along with contact info
[11:31] <burning_bronx> thegladiator, there is
[11:31] <Smerdykov> AGREED
[11:31] <burning_bronx> gtk themes
[11:31] <burning_bronx> you can find those at gnome-look.org as well
[11:31] <yatesy> burning_bronx: freebsdgirl :P
[11:31] <burning_bronx> aim for gtk2
[11:31] <xenex> Anyone here know how to make a NETGEAR WG511v2 (Made in China version) wireless card work?
[11:32] <yatesy> damn b0xy i meant
[11:32] <thegladiator> burning_bronx, does that change the color mostly  ? and the icons in the panel ?
[11:32] <thegladiator> burning_bronx, i have used many gtk 2.x themes
[11:32] <b0xy> yatesy: ?
[11:32] <yatesy> b0xy: google freebsdgirl :P
[11:32] <shwag> anyway to turn off the system beep in gnome-terminal ?
[11:32] <burning_bronx> a theme consists of a two parts - the gtk theme and the icon theme
[11:32] <b0xy> ah
[11:32] <burning_bronx> you can download icon packages at gnome-look.org
[11:32] <andrea> why when i refresh the server list i have: ed2k is not a registered protocol in amule?
[11:32] <burning_bronx> actually you can download anything gnome-look related there
[11:33] <burning_bronx> :/
[11:33] <thegladiator> burning_bronx, yeah i have been there , but i was wondering if there is something that modifies the panel looks completely
[11:33] <llukax> well
[11:33] <llukax> it just wanted the headers
[11:33] <llukax> >_<
[11:33] <burning_bronx> thegladiator, a different WM?
[11:33] <llukax> now its got a gcc error which shouldnt be hard to fix
[11:33] <burning_bronx> :O
[11:33] <thegladiator> :o not exactly . but a diff panel look , i have tried out kdexfce but non looks good as gnome
[11:34] <Ozman> I have this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91455 problem, but the solution proposed does not work, is someone can help me ?
[11:34] <thegladiator> kde is not bad for a change but gnome is better simpler
[11:34] <burning_bronx> well either scout the web for a suitable theme or learn how to theme
[11:34] <thegladiator> the latter ! ;o
[11:34] <dennis_> Hey guys
[11:35] <Smerdykov> hola dennis
[11:35] <dennis_> Can anyone help me with a problem that im having with my dvd drive in breezy?
[11:35] <dennis_> :/
[11:35] <burning_bronx> dennis_, what exactly is the problem?
[11:35] <Smerdykov> I think bronx is your guy...
[11:35] <dennis_> For some reason...when i insert a dvd that I burned into my drive
[11:35] <b0xy> yatesy: I sort of meant good looking nix females
[11:35] <dennis_> it comes up as a blank disk
[11:35] <b0xy> but whatever
[11:35] <dennis_> but when I reboot gnome
[11:35] <dennis_> it shows up as a data disk and shows me my files
[11:35] <dennis_> :/
[11:36] <burning_bronx> that happened just once?
[11:36] <dennis_> Every time
[11:36] <Ozman> anyone ? your $home/.dmrc has incorrect permissions and is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from beeing saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permission
[11:36] <thegladiator> hey where can i have  music discussion besides #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[11:36] <LFA> hi all
[11:36] <burning_bronx> btw sometimes disks need to cool down - I've seen it happen
[11:36] <New2Linux> Looking for help running scripts. Using bash, file is in current directory, but I keep getting not found?
[11:36] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:36] <dennis_> What do you mean burning_bronx ?
[11:36] <dennis_> it needs to cool down?
[11:36] <yatesy> b0xy: ;P
[11:37] <yatesy> if you find any let me know ;)
[11:37] <burning_bronx> as in take em out of the drive and wait a sec b4 puttin' em back in
[11:37] <Nikusan> I've got some mp3 problems... The sound is really bad, muddy, slightly distorted, etc and the bass bottoms out. If it rules anything out, the files play fine in windows. Any advice?
[11:37] <burning_bronx> that is hardly the problem tho
[11:37] <DRAGON_Ultra> what dvd burner you have
[11:37] <b0xy> my cousin uses Ubuntu to play with
[11:37] <dennis_> Um
[11:37] <dennis_> Don't really know :/
[11:37] <llukax> getting awfully close here
[11:37] <llukax> :D
[11:37] <silverton> Nikusan, I have the same problem, but I just live with it, since I have a windows box to do all my mp3 playing with a creative audigy 2 ^_^
[11:37] <dennis_> I don't remember, i knew at the time i bought it
[11:38] <DRAGON_Ultra> k
[11:38] <burning_bronx> or maybe it's your drive playing tricks
[11:38] <dennis_> lol
[11:38] <burning_bronx> mine has trouble reading some DVDs from time to time
[11:38] <kaffeend|away> !mp3
[11:38] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:38] <dennis_> This has always happened with ubuntu though
[11:38] <Raux> hello
[11:38] <Smerdykov> hey bronx, what is it going to take to set up a bootloading system?
[11:38] <fli7e> what is a really badass screen saver
[11:38] <burning_bronx> but then after time I insert the same dvd and it works
[11:38] <fli7e> that wont kill my videocard
[11:38] <silverton> kaffeend|away, he can play them
[11:38] <silverton> they just sound like crap
[11:38] <silverton> I have the same problem
[11:38] <dennis_> it never happens in windows burning_bronx
[11:38] <dennis_> just in ubuntu
[11:38] <burning_bronx> i see
[11:38] <Raux> I have a little problem with ubuntu 5.10 Gnome ...
[11:38] <dennis_> Didnt happen in FreeBSD either
[11:38] <dennis_> Maybe it is gnome
[11:38] <dennis_> That I have a problem with
[11:39] <kaffeend|away> silverton: really? :P
[11:39] <b0xy> yatesy: business tech major. she has to know linux a little bit so she asked me what she would try
[11:39] <Raux> the problem is in keyboard
[11:39] <burning_bronx> have you tried after burning the cd to unmount it the mount it again?
[11:39] <Raux> I cant use some letters
[11:39] <burning_bronx> *then mount
[11:39] <silverton> NiklasH_work, in a terminal, type alsamixer, and put PCM down to about 75-80%
[11:39] <Nikusan> kaffeend|away, yeah they sound really dodgy
[11:39] <silverton> you may have to up the volume on the speakers themselves, but it _might_ help
[11:39] <xenex> Anyone here know how to make a NETGEAR WG511v2 (Made in China version) wireless card work?
[11:39] <burning_bronx> dennis_, have you?
[11:39] <dennis_> No
[11:39] <dennis_> How would I do that :/
[11:39] <burning_bronx> ...
[11:39] <silverton> Nikusan, he was being sarcastic :)
[11:40] <burning_bronx> you familiar with the mount command
[11:40] <burning_bronx> ?
[11:40] <yatesy> b0xy: cool
[11:40] <dennis_> Nope :/
[11:40] <burning_bronx> okay insert the DVD
[11:40] <dennis_> k
[11:40] <b0xy> yatesy: all my female cousins on my mom's side are pretty and smart. all 7 of them didn't catch the male genetics though :(
[11:40] <kaffeend|away> Nikusan I bet lol
[11:41] <yatesy> b0xy: :/
[11:41] <b0xy> er... the males didn't catch it*
[11:41] <b0xy> there's 7 girls on my mom's side
[11:41] <kaffeend|away> Nikusan does he sing them to me?
[11:41] <yatesy> lol
[11:41] <b0xy> holy slow boot time batman
[11:41] <silverton> kaffeend|away, wtf are you talking about?
[11:41] <Nikusan> nah they're still just listenable, nothing that bad :P
[11:41] <Nikusan> I've tried switching between ALSA, ESD etc didn't help
[11:41] <burning_bronx> dennis_, you did it already?
[11:41] <b0xy> WinXP on a 333mhz, 64mb RAM box with all the shit turned off
[11:41] <b0xy> this is slow as _hell_
[11:41] <dennis_> burning_bronx, you mean put the disk in?
[11:41] <b0xy> clean install
[11:41] <silverton> Nikusan, did you try putting PCM down to about 75-80%?
[11:41] <burning_bronx> yes
[11:41] <kaffeend|away> silverton ubotu singing mp3s to me ;)
[11:41] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:42] <dennis_> oh Sweet
[11:42] <dennis_> I did it
[11:42] <dennis_> and it worked
[11:42] <Nikusan> silverton, PCM?
[11:42] <burning_bronx> now
[11:42] <dennis_> I had to do it via the command prompt
[11:42] <silverton> type alsamixer in a terminal
[11:42] <burning_bronx> do what?
[11:42] <dennis_> umount cdrom
[11:42] <dennis_> mount cdrom
[11:42] <burning_bronx> ....
[11:42] <burning_bronx> that's what I told you
[11:42] <dennis_> lol
[11:42] <afief> in configuring mplayer: gedit ~/.mplayer/config cannot be accessed
[11:42] <dennis_> Sorry it is 2:45 here
[11:42] <burning_bronx> :O
[11:42] <burning_bronx> no
[11:42] <burning_bronx> *np
[11:42] <dennis_> And I'm having problems keeping my eyes open
[11:42] <burning_bronx> it hits us all
[11:42] <dennis_> More or less trying to think :P
[11:43] <dennis_> !restricted formats
[11:43] <ubotu> restricted formats is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[11:43] <dennis_> Ah crap
[11:44] <dennis_> What was that firefox fix i used last time i used breezy
[11:44] <afief> in configuring mplayer: gedit ~/.mplayer/config cannot be accessed
[11:44] <dennis_> :/
[11:44] <dennis_> Something in the about:config i had to change
[11:44] <dennis_> because firefox won't load a page
[11:44] <New2Linux> Is there a channel specifically for people who are completely new to Linux?
[11:45] <silverton> New2Linux, this one can be if you want :)
[11:45] <New2Linux> I'd prefer it :)
[11:45] <silverton> just ask, you'll most likely receive an answer
[11:45] <burning_bronx> New2Linux, we got it all here - from crack to open source
[11:45] <Nikusan> silverton, that seems to have helped greatly, kudos :)
[11:45] <burning_bronx> xD
[11:46] <New2Linux> I have tons of experience with windows and Im semi proficient at DOS, but I cant seem for the life of me to get anything to work in Ubuntu
[11:46] <silverton> New2Linux, too broad for any advice :P
[11:46] <silverton> Nikusan, no problem dude
[11:46] <burning_bronx> New2Linux, that's mainly cause the ways of windows are different to the ways of linux
[11:46] <New2Linux> I have a modem detection script sitting on the desktop and im trying to get the script to run in bash
[11:47] <New2Linux> apparently Im in the proper directory in BASH as the script shows up when I perform a DIR
[11:47] <burning_bronx> where did you get that script from?
[11:48] <New2Linux> hang on, need to look in history
[11:48] <New2Linux> it was about 50 pages of surfing for information ago :|
[11:48] <pvanhoof> New2Linux, it's ls, not dir
[11:49] <burning_bronx> pvanhoof, dir works too
[11:49] <burning_bronx> ls is sooooo unix >.>
[11:49] <New2Linux> linuxant.com, well a link on the site to a tool that supposed to tell me what version of their driver is required for my particular modem
[11:49] <pvanhoof> but how is he going to learn "Unix" if he's still using 1980's dir commands?
[11:49] <dom_cyrus> dir is shity
[11:49] <New2Linux> because its what I know works :)
[11:49] <yatesy> dir is just an alias ;P
[11:49] <New2Linux> but thanks for the info, I'll use ls from now on
[11:49] <dom_cyrus> yeah
[11:50] <silverton> I've gotten so use to "ls" that I type it on windows box's...
[11:50] <burning_bronx> ls is better yeah
[11:50] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:50] <dom_cyrus> dir is just an useless alias
[11:50] <pvanhoof> New2Linux, install cygwin on your Windows hosts, and use ls from now on :)
[11:50] <pvanhoof> New2Linux, but add c:\cygwin\bin to your PATH in windows
[11:50] <burning_bronx> dom_cyrus, don't hate it. Whatever works is good - after all linux wouldn't be linux if this was untrue
[11:50] <New2Linux> Thats the whole point of me rying ubuntu on my lappie
[11:51] <New2Linux> I want to deepsix my windows for good
[11:51] <dom_cyrus> burning_bronx, ok thats true
[11:51] <pvanhoof> New2Linux, right, then use ls ;-), not dir
[11:51] <pvanhoof> :D
[11:51] <New2Linux> heh...
[11:51] <pvanhoof> and cp, not xcopy
[11:51] <pvanhoof> etcetera
[11:51] <burning_bronx> give him constructive advise
[11:51] <New2Linux> ok, so Im getting the same output...
[11:51] <burning_bronx> he needs his modem detected
[11:52] <pvanhoof> what modem type?
[11:52] <New2Linux> ahhhhh, someone who sees the root problem, thank you :)
[11:52] <New2Linux> conexant
[11:52] <New2Linux> I have the exact detection script sitting on my desktop
[11:52] <New2Linux> I just cant seem to run the darned thing
[11:52] <pvanhoof> System->Adminsitration->Networking
[11:52] <Drgb> hi everyone...ahem...I've got a problem. I can't boot my computer...it stops when loading syslog daemon, what can I do?
[11:52] <New2Linux> I actually did take a *nix class about 3 or 4 years ago, but its been forever
[11:52] <pvanhoof> use that, and tell me .. is your modem in that window?
[11:53] <New2Linux> It shows up, but it no properties
[11:53] <pvanhoof> you see your modem?
[11:53] <pvanhoof> "Modem connection"
[11:53] <pvanhoof> if so, click it and press the Properties button
[11:53] <New2Linux> well actually it says Modem Connection, but says its not configured
[11:54] <pvanhoof> and check the "Enable this connection" checkbox in the next dialog
[11:54] <burning_bronx> New2Linux, click on the modem and then hit it
[11:54] <silverton> um, pvanhoof, I have a "modem connection" as well, but ya know, a modem has never set it's pins in my PCI slots, evar
[11:54] <New2Linux> I did that and input my ISP information in
[11:54] <pvanhoof> New2Linux, in the next tab, "Modem"
[11:54] <pvanhoof> have you pressed the auto detect button?
[11:54] <New2Linux> The 2nd tab for modem settings is blank, and when I tried to auto detect...
[11:55] <New2Linux> it just sat there whirring...
[11:55] <pvanhoof> ok
[11:55] <New2Linux> sorta reminded me of windows 95 :D
[11:55] <silverton> nah, that's slackware :)
[11:55] <pvanhoof> You got a "Could not autodetect modem device" dialog?
[11:55] <burning_bronx> get IceWM and you will get the win95 look >.>
[11:55] <New2Linux> no, it never came back
[11:55] <New2Linux> I figured after 5 minutes of not detecting anything it wasnt going to
[11:55] <silverton> kde and redmond
[11:55] <silverton> New2Linux, I just tried, and it didn't take 5 minutes
[11:55] <pvanhoof> aha ok
[11:55] <silverton> took like, 20s
[11:56] <pvanhoof> New2Linux, so that basically means that ubuntu isn't supporting your modem (by default)
[11:56] <pvanhoof> :P
[11:56] <New2Linux> Thats weird ok now it came back with couldnt autodetect
[11:56] <silverton> sudo modprobe uber_leet_win_modem_module
[11:56] <New2Linux> pretty much
[11:56] <burning_bronx> New2Linux, do what silverton's proposing
[11:56] <New2Linux> hey its an HP laptop
[11:56] <burning_bronx> modprobe the modem >.>
[11:56] <silverton> rofl
[11:57] <burning_bronx> HP...
[11:57] <burning_bronx> <.<
[11:57] <burning_bronx> >.>
[11:57] <silverton> dancing?
[11:57] <pvanhoof> New2Linux, try on google: conexant ubuntu
[11:57] <pvanhoof> and take the first resule
[11:57] <burning_bronx> more like scratching my arse
[11:57] <pvanhoof> result
[11:57] <New2Linux> yeah....I know terrific machine.. but, I was reading a link from a fellow who got fedora core three installed on the same machine I have
[11:57] <pvanhoof> http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/full/downloads-ubuntu-x86.php
[11:58] <pvanhoof> New2Linux, can you give me the output of uname -a ?
[11:58] <pawel> has anyone here tried a wacom tablet on ubuntu?
[11:58] <silverton> WTFD?!
[11:58] <silverton> a free version, limited to 14.4kbps
[11:58] <silverton> and then a full version, with 56k and fax, for a modest price
[11:59] <New2Linux> yeah ok I have that driver file sitting on my desktop
[11:59] <silverton> ROFL!!!!
[11:59] <nmsa> Greetings and Merry Christmas!
[11:59] <burning_bronx> that's kinda gay a'la MS
[11:59] <burning_bronx> anyway
[11:59] <New2Linux> thats ok,...Im not worried about it, the only place I use the modem is at work through a switchboard and I could only max out at 24.0 anyhow
[11:59] <New2Linux> at home I have 9 meg cable :P
[11:59] <nmsa> where can I find a xface install guide for a Ubuntu server install ?
[11:59] <silverton> luianys fhl
[11:59] <silverton> ROFKLASD;FKLAJS
[11:59] <silverton> OMFG!~
[11:59] <silverton> 19.99 for a fuckin driver!
[12:00] <silverton> that's more then the modem cost itself!