[00:00] <racecar56> noIdeasOriginal, 64bit has less packages than 32bit, but 64bit has some things 32bit dosen't have
[00:00] <racecar56> noIdeasOriginal, other than that i dont know
[00:00] <thahauss> clandestine_j, thanks, excuse my nubness but it would read like this then "rdesktop -u Administrator -p xxxxxx -r sound:remote -g 1900x1100+0+0 <IP_ADDRESS> > dev/null"
[00:00] <MarkJones> noIdeasOriginal: 64bit can handle larger CPU instreuctions if apps are programmed to take advantage.And memory gets used better.
[00:00] <racecar56> noIdeasOriginal, wow 8gb? i got a comp from '07 and it has 2gb :(
[00:00] <thahauss> clandestine_j, I tried this, and now it wont launch at all
[00:00] <noIdeasOriginal> i'm fairly new to all this so i don't know what you mean by packages
[00:00] <vigo1> !packages
[00:00] <racecar56> noIdeasOriginal, biggest one in the house is 3gb and it's also from '07, smallest is 1gb
[00:01] <taz> thanks i fix it
[00:01] <Dreamglider> noIdeasOriginal: you want 64bit if you want to use 8Gb ram.
[00:01] <mac9416_2> racecar56, Do you know how to do it without X?
[00:01] <clandestine_j> thahauss: let me look; i'm running your command and it doesn't load for me with or without the redirection
[00:01] <vigo1> noIdeasOriginal: Packages are files or programs.
[00:01] <leejongwook> where can i get c source files ?
[00:01] <racecar56> mac9416_2, i think i have a hunch, idk though
[00:01] <noIdeasOriginal> markjones: right, i understand that. i have winxp x64 but alot of programs aren't for it. so i have like 7.75 gb ram in winxp x64. i tried ubuntu 64bit but it won't work for some reason.
[00:01] <MarkJones> leejongwook: Source code for what?
[00:01] <leejongwook> utilities
[00:02] <thahauss> clandestine_j, w/o the redirection it works fine on my end
[00:02] <leejongwook> tree rm etc..
[00:02] <racecar56> mac9416_2, make a shell script in your homedir or somewhere, and type commands you want it to run, make that shellscript be run on startup with the sessions thing
[00:02] <MarkJones> noIdeasOriginal: Oh
[00:02] <gkey> anyone any pointers to get cisco vpnc to work (it times out my connections)
[00:02] <leejongwook> MarkJones: all the linux source files :)
[00:02] <mac9416_2> racecar56: A'ight, thanks, man.
[00:03] <MarkJones> lets see here
[00:03] <MarkJones> 1 sec
[00:03] <racecar56> mac9416_2, kk
[00:03] <centHOGG> OT: anybody here good with geexbox
[00:03] <noIdeasOriginal> cool i'm going to definately look into those packages once i get ubuntu working.... to i'd really love to get 64bit working on the PC but i can't overcome that IOMMU issue
[00:03] <racecar56> mac9416_2, just notice that if you want to do it with a computer that dosen't even have X, then ask someone else, cause i have no earthly clue
[00:03] <Lam__> i'm writing a shell right now and i need to test my input redirection, but i don't know of a suitable command to do it.  will grep work?
[00:03] <racecar56> mac9416_2, like a server
[00:03] <noIdeasOriginal> i tried to add a few lines to the boot line when trying to demo or install it, but no luck. i've also tried to look into the BIOS to get IOMMU enabled but i can't find that option whatsoever.
[00:04] <MarkJones> leejongwook: packages.ubuntu.com you can download sources for most apps there.
[00:04] <leejongwook> MarkJones: thanks a lot :) thank you ~
[00:04] <MarkJones> welcome
[00:05] <Lam__> yes it does.  i solved my question using bash. thanks anyways
[00:05] <PROject-Emerald> MarkJones: Thanks :D
[00:05] <MarkJones> Your Weclome
[00:05] <mac9416_2> racecar56: Right, thanks man. I think this answered my question: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[00:06] <solexious> Hi, my main drive on my server is dieing quite rapidly, what should I copy so I can clone it?
[00:07] <MarkJones> noIdeasOriginal: Ive never heard of a BIOS option called IOMMU.
[00:07] <racecar56> mac9416_2, cool, i have been trying to figure out myself :P
[00:07] <solexious> I dont think it would survive a full disk clone
[00:07] <MarkJones> solexious: You need to clone a drive or back it up?
[00:07] <RedMonkey> sol, you might want to back up /boot
[00:07] <jmanuel_cool> please, can someone help me, i have a trouble with mi keyboard
[00:07] <RedMonkey> your kernel configs
[00:07] <RedMonkey> any custom init scripts
[00:07] <MarkJones> ask your question about your keyboard
[00:07] <Dreamglider> solexious: either you copy your most important files or you clone the entire disk/partition
[00:08] <thahauss> +0 <IP_ADDRESS>" so the terminal doesn't display and show up in the panel and ideas on how 2 do this?
[00:08] <jmanuel_cool> directional keys don't work
[00:08] <solexious> Its just system stuff that is on the disk, my personal files are on another disk
[00:08] <jmanuel_cool> all my keyboard work right 'till i install nvidia driver last night
[00:08] <MarkJones> solexious: I personally use a live image of Parted magic.They have a curerent new release of 4.0. find it on distrowatch.com theres a tool called partition image on it thats very good.
[00:09] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[00:09] <mattwj2002> I need some help
[00:10] <Dreamglider> !ask
[00:10] <MarkJones> ask your question go ahead.
[00:10] <solexious> MarkJones, pretty sure it wont be alive with that much use...
[00:10] <mattwj2002> I need to find a driver for my printer.....it is a Lexmark x2600  the driver name should be called "lexmark-inkjet-08-driver"  but I can
[00:10] <MarkJones> solexious: If you cant back it up then what do you want from us?
[00:10] <mattwj2002> 't find it on the lexmark site :(
[00:10] <racecar56> jmanuel_cool, try unpluggin and repluggin keyboard, is it PS/2, USB, or what?
[00:11] <Labmonkey123> hey
[00:11] <racecar56> Labmonkey123, hi
[00:11] <solexious> MarkJones, Just not sure what would be the best things to grab other than /home
[00:11] <jmanuel_cool> racecar56, PS/2
[00:11] <racecar56> jmanuel_cool, same here :)
[00:11] <Labmonkey123> anyone think they can help me with installing a new graphics card lol
[00:11] <dani-boy> heeeey!
[00:11] <racecar56> jmanuel_cool, brand? mines a belkin
[00:11] <MarkJones> solexious: Get parted magic live cd boot it, back it up and use that backup to clone to a new drive.Job done.
[00:12] <jmanuel_cool> racecar56, for example up arrow work like impr pant
[00:12] <racecar56> Labmonkey123, tell me more
[00:12] <MarkJones> solexious: Can even compress with gzip compression
[00:12] <Labmonkey123> I think i need a nwe power supply, but I am not sure
[00:12] <racecar56> Labmonkey123, i have a computer that needs new power supply too :\
[00:12] <solexious> MarkJones, Ok, will give it a go, thanks :)
[00:12] <racecar56> Labmonkey123, i have a computer that needs new power supply too :
[00:12] <jmanuel_cool> racecar56, is a Benq wireless, but yesterday works right
[00:12] <racecar56> Labmonkey123, oops
[00:12] <centHOGG> OT: anybody here good with geexbox
[00:12] <bhiggins> how can i get manpages for stuff like memcpy, printf, etc
[00:12] <Labmonkey123> http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_9800gt_us.html < that is the graphics card
[00:13] <MarkJones> Labmonkey123: if you want to see how its done try youtube theres probably a demo of how to do it.
[00:13] <racecar56> jmanuel_cool, ok, got another keyboard? chances are it might work
[00:13] <MarkJones> solexious: Welcome
[00:13] <racecar56> jmanuel_cool, i have tons of them, old and somewhat new
[00:13] <dani-boy> hey guys how do you change the notification style on ubuntu 9.04? i noticed that the one that came with the installation is different from the one in the video about 9.04 features. Any ways to change the style?
[00:13] <Labmonkey123> my computer is a dell e510, I am trying to find what powersupply i have
[00:13] <jmanuel_cool> was after i install nvidia driver whet start the trouble
[00:13] <jmanuel_cool> when
[00:13] <Labmonkey123> ill try youtube thanks
[00:14] <racecar56> Labmonkey123, open the comp's side and look @ the model, look @ ebay (or similar) and search for the model, problem solved
[00:14] <MarkJones> dani-boy:  check your System menu under admin or preferences and/or gnome settings.
[00:14] <jmanuel_cool> racecar56, the keyboard works in console (tty1 F.E.) but in gnome or fluxbox or lxde don't work
[00:14] <dani-boy> oki doki, thanks mark
[00:14] <MarkJones> dani-boy: if its changeablew its in there somehwere.
[00:14] <racecar56> jmanuel_cool, odd, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg?
[00:15] <noIdeasOriginal> can someone help me please
[00:15] <racecar56> jmanuel_cool, odd, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? (sorry)
[00:15] <jmanuel_cool> racecar56, don't work
[00:15] <noIdeasOriginal> i just tried the 32bit version
[00:15] <mattwj2002> anyone have any ideas?
[00:15] <racecar56> jmanuel_cool, odd, sorry i get mixed up -_-
[00:15] <jmanuel_cool> i tried reconfigure console-setup
[00:15] <MarkJones> Ideas about what?
[00:15] <racecar56> jmanuel_cool, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:15] <blackest> Anyone tried connecting an ubuntu pc to the wan port of a router and sharing a 3g connection ?
[00:15] <mattwj2002> where to find the "lexmark-inkjet-08-driver" driver for my x2600 lexmark printer
[00:15] <thewrath> hey is the issue with the udpates worked out
[00:15] <jmanuel_cool> racecar56, i tried all that before ask in chat
[00:15] <noIdeasOriginal> it says loading, please wait. and then i get a busybox v1.10.2 then (initramfs) with a whole bunch of stuff after that
[00:16] <racecar56> jmanuel_cool, kk
[00:16] <thewrath> i think it was something with perl or something
[00:16] <clandestine_j> bhiggins: if you have all the manpages, then you can do "man 2 call" where call is the syscall; or "man 3 lib" where lib is the library call
[00:16] <clandestine_j> bhiggins: you need to apt-get install manpages-dev for those
[00:16] <MarkJones> dani-boy: Check the included drivers in the driver list of ubuntu or website of manufacturer.Otherwise its probably not supported.
[00:16] <blackest> mattwj2002: is there a driver for lexmark ?
[00:16] <jmanuel_cool> the chat is my last utilty (i tried learn before) when all fail then i try chat
[00:16] <noIdeasOriginal> should i just give up? sheesh
[00:16] <MarkJones> dani-boy:  or other option is to look for  PPD (postscript printer driver file)
[00:17] <racecar56> noIdeasOriginal, i h8 busybox... i call that getting 'busyrolled'. i remember a while back trying kubuntu on my 2006 laptop and it busyrolled me ALL THE TIME, but it's fixed these days
[00:17] <mattwj2002> according to this website there is suppose to be
[00:17] <mattwj2002> http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-X2600_Series
[00:17] <mattwj2002> but I can't find the file to download :(
[00:17] <MarkJones> dani-boy: Ill take a look
[00:17] <jmanuel_cool> ok, tx
[00:17] <noIdeasOriginal> how do i fix being 'busyrolled' then, lol
[00:17] <MarkJones> dani-boy:  What model printer?
[00:17] <noIdeasOriginal> at least now i know that it wasn't just an issue trying 64bit
[00:18] <mac9416_2> How can I stream audio from a microphone via a web page on a home network server?
[00:18] <johnfinch> Howdy, I need to figure out how to get my computer to record audio, preferably through audacity. Anyone know anything of the sort?
[00:18] <dani-boy> no no dude, its not the printer
[00:18] <dani-boy> let me show you
[00:18] <MarkJones> k
[00:18] <dani-boy> have a look at this from ubuntu 9.04 http://www.markshuttleworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/jaunty904_notifications_example1_web_092.swf
[00:18] <racecar56> johnfinch, hack with the settings dialog, took me a while but i fixed it
[00:18] <racecar56> does ubuntu 9.04rc have trouble with a ati radeon 2400? and does it have fglrx for it?
[00:19] <MarkJones> oh sorry
[00:19] <dani-boy> i was just wondering if there's a way to change those notification so my ubuntu could have the same ones as in the video
[00:19] <MarkJones> Getting peopel mixed up.
[00:19] <johnfinch> What do you have to do racecar? I'm about ready to just switch back to XP which I really don't want to do. I've tried switching audio inputs and all that rot to no avail.
[00:19] <dani-boy> hehe
[00:19] <MarkJones> dani-boy:  Did you check gnome settings?
[00:20] <MarkJones> dani-boy: open home folder. edit, preferences?
[00:20] <dani-boy> let me do that, just a sec
[00:20] <MarkJones> k
[00:20] <racecar56> johnfinch, i don't really know... does it work in other apps? and anyway, what's your audacity version? mine is 1.3.7
[00:20] <centHOGG> johnfinch: i made a low-end linux ws that uses audacity for recording vinyl
[00:20] <Jordan_U> dani-boy, Are you simply not seeing the transparency?
[00:20] <Raylz> xfce has grown fat right?
[00:21] <Ademan> Raylz: no
[00:21] <racecar56> Raylz, somewhat
[00:21] <dani-boy> yeh and my volume bar is different
[00:21] <Jordan_U> Raylz, I wouldn't say so, not sure about Xubuntu though :)
[00:21] <johnfinch> racecar56: I have the latest version of Audacity. I can't record any audio on my computer though, not even through sound recorder.
[00:21] <MarkJones> dani-boy:  if you want tranparency you probably need compiz turned on with a working graphics driver
[00:22] <blackest> mattwj2002:  its difficult give me a chance and i'll search but its a swine they hide all linux drivers
[00:22] <dani-boy> oooooh
[00:22] <johnfinch> centHOGG: I want to record through a Blue Snowball. I need to track instruments and stuff like that.
[00:22] <Raylz> Ademan: so how much ram does it consum when doing nothing?
[00:22] <dani-boy> so they made that video with compiz
[00:22] <racecar56> i tried xubuntu on some old computer and it LAGLAGLAGLAGLAGLAGLAGGED, while kubuntu, YES, KUBUNTU KDE4, worked better. really weird
[00:22] <Ademan> how do you use screen to allow you to launch X11 applications on a remote computer? I remember the command was non-trivial if only because the man pages never directly reference X11.  something like screen -Rm or screen -Rd or something
[00:22] <mattwj2002> thanks blackest
[00:22] <MarkJones> dani-boy: hard to say but if you r talking tranparancy then yeah
[00:22] <centHOGG> johnfinch: i dunno Blue whatever
[00:22] <dani-boy> is there a new compiz version that came out with 9.04?
[00:23] <noIdeasOriginal> i guess this nvidia geforce 8200 isn't supported
[00:23] <Jordan_U> dani-boy, That video was a mockup from before notify-osd was actually implemented IIRC
[00:23] <MarkJones> dani-boy: well its included in Hardy and Intrepid so shoudl be for Jaunty also.\
[00:23] <racecar56> johnfinch, odd, you are either unlucky like my pc (my laptop records fine), your mic is bad, or ubuntu's settings are screwed
[00:23] <johnfinch> centHOGG: Do you know how to enable or fix ubuntu to record audio in any way? I can't even get sound recorder to work.
[00:23] <dani-boy> oh i see
[00:23] <centHOGG> johnfinch: sure PM me
[00:24] <MarkJones> dani-boy: install "compiz config settinsg manager " to tweak compiz effects
[00:24] <MarkJones> CCSM
[00:24] <racecar56> johnfinch, try matching audacity's settings with ubuntu's.
[00:24] <Jordan_U> dani-boy, Your hardware probably does not support compiz out of the box, otherwise you would see transparency
[00:24] <MarkJones> dani-boy: make sure you have a 3d video driver installed also.
[00:24] <dani-boy> no no compiz works great on my laptop
[00:24] <Ademan> Raylz: that's a silly question, idle ram usage isn't a good metric of... well... anything other than idle ram usage. anyways, I use gnome on this computer, so I couldn't quote you any numbers
[00:24] <dani-boy> i guess i'll play around with compiz to find the right match
[00:24] <racecar56> does ubuntu 9.04rc have trouble with a ati radeon 2400? and does it have fglrx for it?
[00:25] <Jordan_U> dani-boy, What happens when you mouse over a notification right now?
[00:25] <MarkJones> dani-boy: tranparency shoudl work right out of the box.
[00:25] <noIdeasOriginal> if anyone has any input or solution for me please message me
[00:25] <Raylz> Ademan: ye i mean idle
[00:25] <dani-boy> it goes transparent
[00:25] <Jordan_U> dani-boy, OK, so it'
[00:25] <dani-boy> but i wanted to change the way the notification is presented
[00:25] <Jordan_U> dani-boy, What about it?
[00:26] <racecar56> noIdeasOriginal, please explain more, sorry if you did before but my comp is laggin' like nuts because my stupid fglrx wont install
[00:26] <dani-boy> so you're saying that there should be a package with different notification styles, right?
[00:26] <MarkJones> dani-boy: look in your System menu under preferences.Might be in one of those.
[00:26] <Jordan_U> dani-boy, No
[00:26] <blackest> mattwj2002: wget http://www.downloaddelivery.com/downloads/cpd/lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb.sh.zip
[00:26] <Jordan_U> dani-boy, What about it do you want to change?
[00:27] <dani-boy> i wanted to make it just like in the video
[00:27] <mattwj2002> blackest how did you find it?
[00:27] <blackest> i googled it
[00:27] <mattwj2002> hmmm
[00:28] <mattwj2002> I tried that no luck
[00:28] <Jordan_U> dani-boy, Since the video was a mockup I don't think it will ever be exactly like the video
[00:28] <starfruit> how to set network manager to use a default SSID?
[00:28] <mattwj2002> well thank you! :D
[00:28] <racecar56> starfruit, easy
[00:28]  * mattwj2002 buys blackest a beer
[00:28] <blackest> lexmark-inkjet-08-driver thats what i searched for
[00:28] <racecar56> starfruit, system > preferences > network configuration
[00:28] <dani-boy> ahh oki doki, would have been awesome but i'll live with what i got now
[00:28] <duffc> 2 more days :D
[00:29] <racecar56> starfruit, click the wireless tab and then click a connection, click properties, sorry but i dont have wireless so i cant help
[00:29] <racecar56> got to brb
[00:29] <blackest> mattwj2002:  i'd ditch the lexmark asap horrible company
[00:29] <dani-boy> hey thanks Jordan and Mark. Appreeshiyated you answering me questions.
[00:29] <MarkJones> I would personaly ditch inkjet asap
[00:30] <MarkJones> Ink costs more per ml than oil.
[00:30] <MarkJones> hehe
[00:30] <mattwj2002> lol
[00:30] <MarkJones> laserjet babay!
[00:30] <Jordan_U> starfruit, To continue where racecar56 left off, just click on the wireless network associated with the SSID ( or create one if there isn't one already ) and check the box to automatically connect
[00:30] <racecar56> starfruit, by the way mostly there is 1 connection called auto eth0
[00:30] <racecar56> Jordan_U, thank you
[00:30] <mattwj2002> yeah I have a nice HP for printing....I bought this for scanning :) it was only $50 usd
[00:30] <fizk> In jaunty, why does shutdown just logout the user?
[00:30] <blackest> true my samsung lazer costs me about £25 a cart and i'm on the 2nd one in two years or so
[00:31] <Skapare> what is the difference between the "desktop" CD iso and the DVD iso?  just more packages?  or does the DVD contain both desktop and server stuff?
[00:31] <starfruit> racecar56, i am checking, thx
[00:31] <blackest> hp scanner printers are kind of cheap and work easy
[00:31] <MarkJones> fizk:  Well this isnt the Jaunty room and there are 2 days left till release and it may be fixed in teh final.
[00:31] <starfruit> Jordan_U, all SSID are on automatic mode, so i have to disable each one by one
[00:32] <Skapare> fizk: you could ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:32] <MarkJones> Skapare: DVD fills the extra space with commonly downloaded packages\
[00:32] <grodius> what term command unpacks a rar?
[00:32] <jrib> !rar > grodius
[00:32] <blackest> jaunty shuts down fine in mine with a sixty second delay which i can click to bypass
[00:32] <Skapare> MarkJones: so more packages ... but they aren't installed ... just handy to install?
[00:32] <MarkJones> grodius: youll need the unrar package installed and you can use file-roller
[00:32] <TopBunny98> grodius: tar -zxvf file .tar
[00:33] <jrib> TopBunny98: "rar"
[00:33] <Jordan_U> starfruit, You shouldn't need to disable anything, just create a new connection with the ssid setting you want and set it to automatically connect, it should use that over the others that were automatically discovered
[00:33] <MarkJones> Skapare:yep, if you install an app and its packages are on teh DVD it just grabs them from there, unless you instal a newer version.
[00:33] <bonez46> what alternatives exist to replace NetworkManager?
[00:33] <alienkid10> I currently use Xubuntu and am going to switch to ubuntu in 2 days and was wondering how to make the transition easier(I backed up my emerald theme and compiz settings)
[00:33] <fizk> MarkJones: Skapare: ty
[00:33] <MarkJones> or a never version is available
[00:33] <Jordan_U> bonez46, Any reason why you want a replacement?
[00:33] <jrib> alienkid10: umm, just install ubuntu-desktop, there's nothing to back up
[00:33] <starfruit> Jordan_U, ok, will try taht
[00:33] <MarkJones> welcome
[00:33] <Skapare> MarkJones: OK, thanks
[00:34] <jrib> alienkid10: you can even just switch between gnome and xfce at the login screen then
[00:34] <blackest> bonez46:  wifi-radar  tends to make things easier
[00:34] <MarkJones> alienkid10: Make the switch? Backup your home folder thats about it.
[00:34] <starfruit> Jordan_U, but there are two SSID in my area, with the same name. will it take mac address of the ssid router?
[00:34] <Skapare> MarkJones: I'm just gonna skip making hybrids out of the DVD isos
[00:34] <alienkid10> jrib: I am reinstalling to completely remove xfce/xubuntu and was wondering about the switch to GNOME really
[00:34] <kungpowzer> grodius well that made my head hurt
[00:34] <starfruit> Jordan_U, ok i see
[00:34] <bonez46> blackest: even if I don't have any wireless on my lan?
[00:34] <alienkid10> and nautilus
[00:34] <jrib> alienkid10: why?
[00:35] <blackest> no not really lol
[00:35] <MarkJones> Skapare: Oh you mean like using UCk to make a custom ISO live CD?
[00:35] <bonez46> Jordan_U: my networkmanager icon shows no connection, despite being connected..
[00:35] <Skapare> MarkJones: thanks
[00:35] <jrib> alienkid10: I mean why even bother to reinstall.  Seems like a hassle when you can just install ubuntu side-by-side
[00:35] <starfruit> Jordan_U, the reason i have to do it is that, it automatically connects to an SSID with the greatest signal, but that ssid sucks
[00:35] <MarkJones> welcome
[00:35] <obx> guys
[00:35] <Jordan_U> bonez46, Did you connect via network-manager?
[00:35] <obx> I really need to know if it's possible to go from fluxbuntu to a stable version of ubuntu
[00:36] <blackest> starfruit:  are both ssid on the same channel ?
[00:36] <bonez46> Jordan_U: I didn't actively connect that way.. it's just connected..
[00:36] <obx> this is ridiculous
[00:36] <alienkid10> because GNOME is REALLY different and I do want to use it but I want to know if there's anything that can help the switch
[00:36] <jrib> alienkid10: if anything, I think having both installed would make the transition easier since you can always run the programs you are used to in xfce in gnome
[00:36] <Skapare> MarkJones: I don't know "UCk" ... I'm making hybrid ISOs from the stock ISOs ... hybrids can be used as ISO to burn to CD/DVD ... or can be dd'd directly to USB keys and SD cards
[00:36] <Jordan_U> starfruit, BSSID is the wireless equivalent of a MAC address
[00:36] <bonez46> Jordan_U: but yes, I guess I am connected via nm
[00:36] <MarkJones> Oh I see.
[00:36] <noIdeasOriginal> still same thing happening
[00:36] <jrib> obx: ask #fluxbuntu
[00:36] <MarkJones> obx: You can go from fluxbuntu to whatever your little hearts conent with. :)
[00:36] <obx> there's nobody in there
[00:37] <kous> is there a package to make cDVD images from scratch?
[00:37] <starfruit> blackest, i don't think so
[00:37] <obx> i don't have the capability to burn anything right now
[00:37] <jrib> obx: that's the channel for fluxbuntu support, they would know about the distribution
[00:37] <The_Tick> is there a guide or anything for switching from os x to ubuntu?
[00:37] <kous> or, to delete items inside an image
[00:37] <jrib> !install > obx
[00:37] <blackest> obx: most times just install ubuntu desktop and your good to go
[00:37] <jrib> obx: that may or may not help you
[00:37] <kous> without completely ruining the image that is
[00:37] <TopBunny98> starfruit: Mac addresses are hard coded int the Network interface Adapter so to answer your question no you can not change the mac address of a NIC  unless you change out the nic.
[00:37] <Jordan_U> bonez46, What version of Ubuntu?
[00:37] <bonez46> 8.10 desktop
[00:37] <MarkJones> The_Tick: Theres all of us and there lots of free online docs too.
[00:37] <jrib> The_Tick: help.ubuntu.com is really all anyone needs to get started
[00:38] <noIdeasOriginal> MarkJones: it didn't work
[00:38] <MarkJones> The_Tick: Any question you have just feel free to aks.
[00:38] <thahauss> starfruit, you can however spoof your MAC address
[00:38] <starfruit> TopBunny98, dude, i didn't want to change mac
[00:38] <The_Tick> MarkJones: alright :)
[00:38] <The_Tick> MarkJones: so I started Growl on os x
[00:38] <blackest> starfruit: use wifi-radar if nothing else works and specify the channel
[00:38] <The_Tick> is there anything like that?
[00:38] <MarkJones> noIdeasOriginal: What didnt work?
[00:38] <The_Tick> besides guifications
[00:38] <jrib> The_Tick: notifications in 9.04 are like growl
[00:38] <The_Tick> there's a central location to manage them?
[00:38] <lakin> A long time ago I read an ubuntu (maybe debian) tutorial about a command line utility that listed directory structure in a visual ascii-art sorta way that was suitable for inclusion (as a visualization) into a document that references said structure.
[00:38] <starfruit> blackest, ok
[00:38] <noIdeasOriginal> see the message i sent you
[00:38] <lakin> any one know which command I'm talking about?
[00:38] <noIdeasOriginal> you said to reset bios settings
[00:38] <Jordan_U> bonez46, What happens if you connect via the pannel applet ( it will probably disconnect you before it reconnects so hopefully we don't lose you :)
[00:39] <starfruit> thahauss, spoof my wifi mac? my wlan0 interface?
[00:39] <kous> is there a package to make cDVD images from scratch? (edit images without destroying them)
[00:39] <kungpowzer> ?
[00:39] <bonez46> via which panel (1 elll??) applet?
[00:39] <The_Tick> how about a system wide spell checker?
[00:39] <The_Tick> anything like that?
[00:39] <thahauss> starfruit, yes, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-your-network-card-mac-address-on-ubuntu.html
[00:39] <jrib> The_Tick: yeah, anything that uses a gtk input box will get spell checking automatically...
[00:40] <The_Tick> jrib: cool
[00:40] <The_Tick> I haven't used a linux gui in.. 8 years :)
[00:40] <The_Tick> so sorry about the more gui style questions
[00:40] <Jordan_U> bonez46, You should have a networking icon at the top right of the screen
[00:40] <The_Tick> I'll google for how to convert my mailboxes and stuff, and read that help
[00:40] <bonez46> yeah, it's there...
[00:41] <starfruit> thahauss, cool
[00:41] <bonez46> that's network manager..
[00:41] <thahauss> starfruit, :)
[00:41] <kous> is there a package to make cDVD images from scratch? (edit images without destroying them)
[00:41] <lakin> Ha - I think it's called tree
[00:41] <The_Tick> is there still this whole odd thing with every kde app starting with a k?
[00:41] <PROject-Emerald> what's the console command to run .sh files?
[00:41] <The_Tick> PROject-Emerald: ./foo.sh
[00:41] <The_Tick> chmod +x it first
[00:41] <PROject-Emerald> +x or a+x?
[00:41] <lstarnes> PROject-Emerald: or sh filename.sh
[00:41] <jrib> The_Tick: heh, there are some exceptions
[00:42] <TopBunny98> PROject-Emerald: /.filename.sh
[00:42] <lstarnes> PROject-Emerald: I think +x is the same as a+x
[00:42] <The_Tick> PROject-Emerald: or sh -x foo.sh
[00:42] <The_Tick> will give you nice output of what it's doing :)
[00:42] <dan76> I am having sporadic problems with my on board network card starting. It works about 50% of the time. Maybe more often. I would like to find out how to get started from a term window incase it doesnt start without having to reboot each time
[00:42] <The_Tick> jrib: such as?
[00:42] <meemo> I've had a problem with login. Login fails with segfault either in gdm or console. Solution have been in bug #303458 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/303458/comments/31
[00:42] <mac9416_2> How do I stream a microphone port across my home network?
[00:42] <The_Tick> jrib: oh, nm
[00:42] <The_Tick> heh
[00:42] <jrib> The_Tick: amarok, dolphin, I don't use kde
[00:42] <The_Tick> hrmm
[00:42] <The_Tick> oh, I guess I'll need my iphone to sync
[00:42] <The_Tick> is there anything for that?
[00:42] <jrib> The_Tick: not going to happen
[00:43] <The_Tick> gotcha
[00:43] <The_Tick> windows vm it is
[00:43] <FloodBot1> The_Tick: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:43] <The_Tick> will he boot me eventually?
[00:43] <jrib> The_Tick: hash was broken for version 1 of the firmware, but apple changed it for version 2 and I don't think that's been broken yet
[00:43] <jrib> The_Tick: no, but try not to break up what you say with enter
[00:43] <The_Tick> ya, I'm not interested in breaking apple stuff, I'll just my old imac or dual boot my mbp or something
[00:43] <PROject-Emerald> grr it's not working
[00:44] <jrib> The_Tick: personally, I jailbroke mine and just ssh into it
[00:44] <The_Tick> jrib: unfortunately I've tried that, I can't not type this, hasn't changed since 94, *sigh*
[00:44] <kous> is there a package to make cDVD images from scratch? (edit images without destroying them)
[00:44] <The_Tick> ok, so iphone has to be figured out or replaced
[00:44] <dan76> the tick, what are you trying to do?
[00:44] <Jordan_U> mac9416_2, It's not trivial unfortunately, and I can't walk you through step by step but you are going to want to use pulseaudio
[00:44] <The_Tick> dan76: switch from os x
[00:44] <ienorand> Is there a channle for openoffice?
[00:45] <The_Tick> ienorand: ya, #openoffice.org I think
[00:45] <dan76> The_tick: and.? You want your Iphone to work?
[00:45] <mac9416_2> Jordan_U: OK, not much experience with Pulse, but please continue.
[00:45] <The_Tick> dan76: I'm just asking random questions about things I use before I invest a huge amount of time into it
[00:45] <The_Tick> and some money
[00:45] <darobman> I'm not sure I can ask this question here.  Every time I try to install the flash plugin on Firefox on Ubuntu, It installs but the plugin doesnt work.  I've tried all three available.   Are there any knwon issues.  I've tried Ubuntu 8.04/8.10 and now i'm on the RC9.04
[00:46] <starfruit> blackest, why network set up ask me to put a MAC when there's already a field for SSID? is this MAC address a fake one, one to tell the wirless router, that I have fake MAC 00:22:22:22:22
[00:46] <MarkJones> darobman: Where did you get the flash plugin? repositories?
[00:46] <dan76> The_Tick: I have my Iphone syncing with SunVirtual Box. Apparently it will work with OSX
[00:46] <jrib> PROject-Emerald: what are you trying to do exactly?
[00:47] <kungpowzer> darobman d/l the installer then close all firefox session then run the installer
[00:47] <blackest> starfruit: its getting a bit beyond but i'm guessing it wants the mac address of the router you want to connect too
[00:47] <starfruit> running "macchanger" will permanently change my mac or just once, during reboot?
[00:48] <darobman> kungpowzer, should i download the instlaler form the adobe site?
[00:48] <dan76> darobman: also make sure you don't have any of the other flash player plugins installed just use the adobe one
[00:48] <MarkJones> darobman: Just go to adobe.com and dlownload the Ubuntu package for Flash. Its up to version 10.
[00:48] <Jordan_U> starfruit, Since the BSSID is basically the mac address of the Access point you are probably right that the MAC option changes the MAC of your wireless card
[00:48] <darobman> I'll give those suggestions a try.
[00:48] <GillaGal> My new system has 4GB of RAM, but an Intel Q2300 Quad core processor.  Should I be installing Ubunutu 32bit still?
[00:48] <MarkJones> dan76:jinx :)
[00:48] <blackest> starfruit:  i don't know why you want to do that unless your jumping on a lan you shouldnt be on
[00:48] <starfruit> Jordan_U, or what blackest said
[00:49] <shadowh511> GillaGal: is it a 64-bit brocessor?
[00:49] <starfruit> let me reboot and test my config
[00:49] <GillaGal> shadowh511 Aren't most newer processors?
[00:49] <dan76> MarkJones: I spent an hour pulling my hair out after I upgraded to jaunty trying to figure out why my flash wasn't working anymore..then I realize I had two flash player plugins competing with each other
[00:49] <MarkJones> aha.hehe
[00:50] <blackest> GillaGal:  i think there is a problem addressing over 3gb ram (however that might be a windows limitation)
[00:50] <shadowh511> @GillaGal try and see if 64-bit works, and if it doesn't,  use 32-bit
[00:50] <NativeAngels> has anyone tried the desktop versions of 9.04
[00:50] <NativeAngels> or the trial
[00:50] <Jordan_U> GillaGal, Depends, Do you use many proprietary apps that are 32 bit only? If so are you willing to setup a 32 bit environment for them?
[00:50] <PROject-Emerald> ah, I forgot to CD :P
[00:51] <shadowh511> NativeAngels: i am running it, no major preformance slowages, only fastages
[00:51] <celthunder> gillagal no install 64 bit
[00:51] <JohnnyBGoode> hello, can anyone help me with streaming "sop"
[00:51] <dan76> I am having sporadic problems with my on board network card starting. It works about 50% of the time, maybe more often. I would like to find out how to get it started from a term window in case it doesnt start without having to reboot each time
[00:51] <JohnnyBGoode> ?
[00:51] <NativeAngels> have u installed it or just using live version
[00:51] <JohnnyBGoode> i want to watch hockey online for free
[00:51] <Jordan_U> GillaGal, There are very few open source apps that are not 64 bit compatible
[00:51] <blackest> NativeAngels: yes it seems quite stable a few new features Computer Janitor is a pain in the ...
[00:52] <shadowh511> NativeAngels: installed and running, but the computer janitor FAILS EPICALLY
[00:52] <NativeAngels> whats that
[00:52] <GillaGal> Jordan_U Most apps have 64bit support?
[00:52] <blackest> NativeAngels: installed it over a box thats been updated through dapper to jaunty
[00:52] <obx> well i can install up to hardy i guess on fluxbuntu >>
[00:52] <starfruit> blackest, hey, it now works. connect to free hotspot with signal level 50%, instead of non-free spot with signal level 70%
[00:52] <Jordan_U> GillaGal, Yes
[00:52] <GillaGal> 64 bit it is.
[00:53] <blackest> starfruit:  glad to help
[00:53] <starfruit> thanks guys
[00:53] <obx> i know this is the wrong room, but is there a specific dvd type that you are supposed to burn with vista discs?
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[00:54] <FloodBot1> manoleteee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:54] <safruhani> :)
[00:54] <manoleteee> http://barbaritoso.elbruto.es <- MOST ADDICTIVE GAME EVER SINCE YETISPORTS.
[00:54] <TopBunny98> obx Please ask your question in #windows
[00:54] <dan76> Network help...anyone?
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[00:54] <obx> is there a windows on here?
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[00:55] <blackest> obx: assuming you  want to burn a backup of the vista install  i'd use dvd - but i dont think it matters
[00:55] <TopBunny98> obk /j #windows
[00:55] <iceroot> manoleteee: bye
[00:55] <manoleteee> http://barbaritoso.elbruto.es <- MOST ADDICTIVE GAME EVER SINCE YETISPORTS.
[00:55] <safruhani> :)
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[00:55] <manoleteee> http://barbaritoso.elbruto.es <- MOST ADDICTIVE GAME EVER SINCE YETISPORTS.
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[00:55] <FloodBot1> manoleteee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:55] <dan76> agreed
[00:55] <ErrantEgo> stew: you're late
[00:55] <ErrantEgo> lol
[00:56] <Skapare> late, slow, whatever, but at least the thing is gone
[00:57] <misho> hi boys and girls
[00:57] <Tetracomm> I setup a Mibbit page so that the visitors of my website could join the Ubuntu channel right away, and it doesn\'t let them in automatically, why?
[00:57] <Tetracomm> It says something about a proxy.
[00:57] <The_Tick> Tetracomm: that is a proxy
[00:57] <PROject-Emerald> Why won't the CD command work?
[00:57] <lstarnes> Tetracomm: mibbit users need to follow some extra instructions to be able to enter here
[00:57] <lstarnes> PROject-Emerald: are you using it as cd or as CD?
[00:57] <LjL> Tetracomm: Mibbit is only allowed in this channel as a special exeption, please don't set up a site that way, ask in #ubuntu-ops for clarifications
[00:57] <PROject-Emerald> cd
[00:57] <The_Tick> PROject-Emerald: what message do you get back?
[00:57] <PROject-Emerald> ex: cd /home/craig/Desktop/rsbot
[00:58] <spiel_mit_feuer> hmm.. question, do i need xgl to properly run compiz with a GMA950 chipset?
[00:58] <The_Tick> oh ya, is x11r6 the desktop environment of choice these days?
[00:58] <PROject-Emerald> umm,
[00:58] <PROject-Emerald> mike@mike-desktop:~$ sudo cd /home/craig/Desktop/rsbot_543v4
[00:58] <PROject-Emerald> sudo: cd: command not found
[00:58] <The_Tick> PROject-Emerald: sudo isn't in path
[00:59] <The_Tick> PROject-Emerald: echo $PATH
[00:59] <PROject-Emerald> so don't do sudo when I do it?
[00:59] <The_Tick> PROject-Emerald: correct
[00:59] <The_Tick> see if just cd works
[00:59] <dan76> Need help: I am having sporadic problems with my on board network card starting. It works about 50% of the time, maybe more often. I would like to find out how to get it started from a term window in case it doesnt start without having to reboot each time
[00:59] <TheFunkbomb> Hey, how can I get the sound device back into the tray?
[00:59] <tsimpson> PROject-Emerald: cd isn't a program
[00:59] <The_Tick> dan76: could be a network service dying
[00:59] <PROject-Emerald> OH
[00:59] <PROject-Emerald> Thanks :D
[00:59] <PROject-Emerald> See, now I'm one step closer to learning fluent linux! :D
[01:00] <MarkJones> dan76:PM
[01:00] <MarkJones> dan76:P.M.
[01:00] <MarkJones> crap
[01:00] <MarkJones> private message
[01:00] <dan76> The_Tick: possibly but its always been iffy under Ubuntu and never under Windows
[01:00] <The_Tick> dan76: windows drivers could be compensating
[01:00] <The_Tick> dan76: is this a desktop machine?
[01:01] <The_Tick> i.e. does it have another slot available?
[01:01] <dan76> The_Tick: true. It is a desktop machine and a motherboard based ethernet
[01:01] <Jordan_U> dan76, Ethernet card?
[01:01] <The_Tick> dan76: if nothing else, go find a 10 dollar nic
[01:02] <dan76> Jordan_U: no its on the mobo
[01:02] <The_Tick> might be worth your frustration level
[01:02] <Jordan_U> dan76, You can try "sudo ifconfig eth0 up && sudo dhclient eth0"
[01:02] <dan76> The_tick: once it starts working it works flawlessly. I just need to find out how to boot it again so I don't have to reboot the whole machine
[01:03] <MarkJones> dan76: you on 8.10?
[01:03] <The_Tick> dan76: what run level are you in?
[01:03] <dan76> Jordan: let me try
[01:03] <dan76> The_Tick: I run Jaunty
[01:03] <The_Tick> heh, I don't know what that means
[01:03] <The_Tick> guessing that's some release?
[01:03] <Jordan_U> dan76, Have you tried selecting the interface from the network-manager applet?
[01:03] <dan76> but it also happened under intrepid too
[01:03] <The_Tick> ya, what Jordan_U is saying is a good idea
[01:04] <The_Tick> does ubuntu use runlevels, like runlevel 5 for running the desktop and runlevel 3 for just the console?
[01:04] <The_Tick> and 6 for shutdown?
[01:04] <dan76> Jordan_U: clarify ...do you mean is there an entry?
[01:04] <misho> j installed xp and intrepid(dual boot),but GRUB wont work when my mice is pluged in usb,in fact j cant navigate with arrows,when mice is unpluged it is ok.What shoul J do?
[01:04] <lstarnes> The_Tick: runlevels 2-5 do the same thing by default.  1 is single-user, 0 is shutdown, and 6 is reboot
[01:04] <dan76> The_Tick: oh...sorry yeah, I am in the graphical so 5 I guess
[01:05] <BePhantom> hello guys, is 9.04 final available for download?
[01:05] <Jordan_U> dan76, That and if there is one have you tried selecting it? ( that will cause it to do a DHCP renew )
[01:05] <iceroot> BePhantom: 2 days
[01:05] <The_Tick> lstarnes: ah ok, so that's easy
[01:05] <BePhantom> iceroot ok :)
[01:05] <The_Tick> dan76: so worst case you could see what it does at the runlevel you're at
[01:05] <The_Tick> and rerun that process
[01:06] <iceroot> BePhantom: depending on your timezone, maybe one day :) 23.04 will the release
[01:06] <The_Tick> if you say a reboot always fixes it and you think it's software
[01:06] <The_Tick> if that works, just cronjob it
[01:06] <AMDfanboy> hi, whats the best way to make a screencast that i can put on youtube of firefox?
[01:06] <Doppp> Excited for Jaunty... Will it work with my Asus 1000HE netbook?
[01:06] <AMDfanboy> MarkJones, i tried gtk screencast, it was blurry and choppy, know how to fix it?
[01:07] <BePhantom> iceroot ok, can't wait for it...i screwed up my ubuntu 8.10 install so i wan't 9.04 asap :D
[01:07] <BePhantom> want*
[01:08] <dan76> Jordan_U: I tried the line you suggested...it trys to discover dhcp but finds no leases
[01:08] <iceroot> BePhantom: maybe use the rc1 and then upgrade in 1-2 days
[01:08] <MarkJones> AMDfanboy: if your doing a screencast did you try GTK-record-my-desktop?
[01:08] <iceroot> BePhantom: or use 8.04.2 LTS which i prefer
[01:08] <AMDfanboy> markjones, yeah i tried it, its blurry and choppy?
[01:08] <AMDfanboy> i wonder if it can be fixed?
[01:08] <BePhantom> iceroot i can wait a bit  more
[01:09] <MarkJones> AMDfanboy: Ive only messed with it once cdoes it have options for resolution and/or bitrate?
[01:09] <iceroot> BePhantom: ok :)
[01:09] <Jordan_U> Doppp, Not sure but you might want to look into Ubuntu netbook remix
[01:10] <dan76> Didn't there used to be a filter button in the system log viewer?
[01:10] <Doppp> Aight thanks. =)
[01:10] <BePhantom> iceroot i installed kubuntu-desktop from the repos and it screwed my gnome :D
[01:10] <spiel_mit_feuer> does anyone know how to get compiz to run properly on an intel GMA950 graphics?
[01:10] <MarkJones> AMDfanboy:Also if your having trouble with reading text cause its blurry a lot of screencasters use some sort of zooming utility to zoom in on text so its readable.
[01:10] <BePhantom> and i really hate kde iceroot :D
[01:10] <iceroot> BePhantom: hate is no good word
[01:10] <BePhantom> spiel_mit_feuer i have intel 950
[01:10] <TheFunkbomb> does anyone know how to get the volume control speaker back into the system tray in the upper right hand corner?
[01:10] <etzerd> is it safe to install the RC now?
[01:10] <MarkJones> Text is hard to read on a 320x240 screencast.
[01:10] <BePhantom> spiel_mit_feuer intel 945 actually
[01:10] <spiel_mit_feuer> are you using compiz?
[01:11] <iceroot> BePhantom: the problem is that ubuntu is a verby bad distri for kde, if you want to enjoy kde use opensuse
[01:11] <AMDfanboy> markjones, yeah i cant see how to change the resolution, but it does let me tweak fps.
[01:11] <behappy> top command give me Bus Error what is this mean ??
[01:11] <BePhantom> iceroot kde is so difficult, in gnome i could find everything with a few clicks
[01:11] <MarkJones> TheFunkbomb: Right click panel  add to panel
[01:11] <linkd_> AMDfanboy, what is your favourite processor manufacturer?
[01:12] <BePhantom> spiel_mit_feuer yes, compiz works like a charm
[01:12] <spiel_mit_feuer> BePhantom, did you have to install xgl or aiglx to get compiz to function?
[01:12] <iceroot> BePhantom: its not difficult, its just different like linux and windows
[01:12] <TheFunkbomb> MarkJones, that only adds it to the Applications/Places/System tray.  Not the tray that has the date
[01:12] <sachael> do you guys know any more "zen" commands like "yes", "true" and "false"?
[01:12] <AMDfanboy> linkd, you guessed it, i guess ;-)
[01:12] <jardel> hello
[01:12] <BePhantom> spiel_mit_feuer no, i didnt have to tweak anything, it works by default
[01:12] <MarkJones> TheFunkbomb: no it doesnt
[01:12] <MarkJones> its movable
[01:12] <spiel_mit_feuer> did you just sudo apt-get install compiz
[01:12] <spiel_mit_feuer> ?
[01:13] <spiel_mit_feuer> i had compiz installed.. but when i clicked on blurry windows, all my windows went black
[01:13] <TheFunkbomb> MarkJones, and it doesn't move past the separator
[01:13] <BePhantom> iceroot yeah i guess, but i miss gnome :D
[01:13] <linkd_> AMDfanboy, I bet it's ARM.
[01:13] <spiel_mit_feuer> i had KDE4 once, hated it
[01:13] <TheFunkbomb> uh oh spaghettios
[01:13] <BePhantom> spiel_mit_feuer i didnt have to install anything actually, please write my nickname when talking to me :D
[01:13] <MarkJones> TheFunkbomb:You have to toggle "lock to panel" on your applets to move past them.
[01:13] <anthony_> Hi, how do I put a question (y or n?) into a shell script
[01:13] <MarkJones> inlcuding seperators :)
[01:13] <poet> clear
[01:13] <spiel_mit_feuer> bephantom, was it pre-installed on your computer?
[01:13] <TheFunkbomb> I just did something bad
[01:13] <TheFunkbomb> lol
[01:13] <iceroot> BePhantom: and why not using it?
[01:14] <BePhantom> spiel_mit_feuer yes, just installed 8.10, it worked out of the box
[01:14] <BePhantom> iceroot because i installed kunbuntu-desktop and it removed wicd from gnome, i cant use internet in gnome
[01:14] <Jordan_U> spiel_mit_feuer, Can you pastebin the output of "compiz --replace & sleep 20; metacity --replace"
[01:14] <spiel_mit_feuer> bephantom, how do you tweak the settings for compiz?
[01:14] <Genolo> I need some serious help fixing world of warcraft in wine; the main issue being the ground is red
[01:15] <spiel_mit_feuer> uuh.. what?
[01:15] <BePhantom> spiel_mit_feuer there's a compiz manager
[01:15] <Jordan_U> spiel_mit_feuer, The metacity --replace is just so that if compiz fails you won't be left without a window manager
[01:15] <spiel_mit_feuer> whats the name of it?
[01:15] <anthony_> genolo: is ur graphics card strong enough to do WoW
[01:15] <iceroot> BePhantom: hm, sounds strange
[01:15] <Genolo> anthony_: i think so since when this was a vista and not running ubuntu it ran fine
[01:16] <iceroot> BePhantom: look at xfce4 it looks like gnoome but its smaller
[01:16] <anthony_> Check the Wine AppDB
[01:16] <BePhantom> spiel_mit_feuer compiz advanced manager i think, i dont remember search for compiz in add remove
[01:16] <noIdeasOriginal> is MarkJones still here?
[01:16] <EoL{s}> I have a question about dual booting ubuntu and windows Vista. Does resizing the Windows Partition erase its contents?
[01:16] <BePhantom> iceroot yes it does look like gnome but i like nautilus better
[01:16] <TheFunkbomb> I fixed it.  MarkJones, I had to remove notification manager, put the speaker back up and put notification manager back up
[01:17] <BePhantom> iceroot as file manager i mean
[01:17] <spiel_mit_feuer> compizconfig-settings-manager?
[01:17] <anthony_> genolo: Check the Wine AppDB for WoW
[01:17] <dan76> how do I go to runlevel 2?
[01:17] <iceroot> BePhantom: yes thats right
[01:17] <Genolo> anthony_: where?
[01:17] <BePhantom> spiel_mit_feuer yes, and there's a simple manager for really easy tweaking
[01:17] <MarkJones> TheFunkbomb: cool glad i could help
[01:17] <noIdeasOriginal> so is anyone aware of the issue with ubuntu and nvidia geforce?
[01:18] <anthony_> genolo: go to appdb.winehq.com
[01:18] <macman> guys .. i just intsall ubuntu-restricted-extras and i still have no flash .. any ideas ?
[01:18] <spiel_mit_feuer> hmm
[01:18] <spiel_mit_feuer> i have wobbly windows now
[01:18] <reconman> irc://irc.rizon.net/libble.com
[01:19] <spiel_mit_feuer> wtf is this? ctrl+super?
[01:19] <spiel_mit_feuer> what is super?
[01:19] <MarkJones> super=windows key
[01:19] <daftykins> windows key
[01:19] <zKai> window key
[01:19] <iceroot> spiel_mit_feuer: windows-key
[01:19] <noIdeasOriginal> -sigh
[01:19] <BePhantom> spiel_mit_feuer there's a "simple compizconfig settings manager" it's very good!
[01:19] <MarkJones> lol everyone knew that but you. :)
[01:19] <spiel_mit_feuer> yay.. i have the rain effects again
[01:20] <dan76> macman: make sure you don't have swfdec installed also
[01:20] <spiel_mit_feuer> uh oh.. too much rain.. i cant see
[01:20] <theTroll> windows for the win, agreed?
[01:20] <daftykins> no.
[01:20] <spiel_mit_feuer> oops
[01:20] <macman> i don't dan76
[01:20] <noIdeasOriginal> hey MarkJones... i don't know what else to do
[01:20] <noIdeasOriginal> the cd checked out fine
[01:20] <spiel_mit_feuer> umm.. how do i tone down the rain effect so it isnt so blurry?
[01:20] <MarkJones> I dont either
[01:21] <dan76> macman: go into synaptic and type "flash" and tell me what is installed
[01:21] <daftykins> !compiz | spiel_mit_feuer
[01:21] <BePhantom> iceroot does wicd work in kde? if i install it in kde will i be able to use it in gnome again?
[01:21] <noIdeasOriginal> well thanks though for the help
[01:21] <anthony_> Genolo: What version of WoW is it?
[01:21] <Dreamglider> i have tried three video editing programs (kino, piviti  and cinelerra) all stop responding and i have to force them to shut down, i have 8.10 running on 2GHz coreduo 2Gb ram
[01:21] <noIdeasOriginal> and thanks for your time
[01:21] <behappy> top command give me Bus Error what is this mean ??
[01:21] <iceroot> BePhantom: sorry dont know what wicd is
[01:21] <BePhantom> iceroot no problem :)
[01:21] <Rob235> yo, i know this is a total noob question but how do you turn off aliases in pidgin
[01:21] <daftykins> maybe your system isn't stable then Dreamglider
[01:22] <Genolo> anthony_: 24
[01:22] <Genolo> anthony_ 2.4*
[01:22] <spiel_mit_feuer> i figured it out
[01:22] <spiel_mit_feuer> i can see fine now
[01:22] <macman> wierd .. its working
[01:22] <daftykins> restarted firefox eh macman?
[01:22] <anthony_> genolo: ok. hold on
[01:23] <newmember> \join openbsd
[01:23] <dan76> macman: maybe you just needed to clear out the cache and restart
[01:23] <MarkJones> Do they call Pidgin problems Pidgin poop? That would be funny.
[01:23] <Dreamglider> daftykins: system is pretty stable. runs great, just those video editing prog's that cause some conflict/errors
[01:23] <MarkJones> Ok im outa here.Bye everyone.
[01:23] <theTroll> vim is the best word processor
[01:24] <ErgyJB> How do I remove the irc updates?
[01:24] <lstarnes> ErgyJB: irc updates?
[01:24] <ErgyJB> like when people join the chat room and such
[01:24] <lstarnes> ErgyJB: which client are you using?
[01:24] <lunaphyte> hi.
[01:25] <ErgyJB> Colloquy on a mac :-o
[01:25] <lstarnes> ErgyJB: I'm not sure how to do it in colloquy or if it can be done in that client
[01:25] <lunaphyte> is there a recommended gui for adding additional disks to fstab, or is this still generally done from a shell?
[01:25] <spiel_mit_feuer> i dont get this.. shift+super+button 1...
[01:25] <anthony_> genolo: Wine and WoW are more graphics intensive than WoW and Vista. But I dont know why the ground is red.  I just don't think wine&WoW are compatible with intel mobile cards. U can only use WoW and Vista. Srry
[01:28] <Genolo> anthony_: that's weird since like everything else is the right color besides grass
[01:29] <anthony_> genolo: well if u can live with that than go ahead!
[01:29] <Genolo> going to have to i guess
[01:29] <Genolo> :x
[01:30] <dreamy> i get no sound when playng an avi movie and the same when playng a mp4 one
[01:30] <dan76> the stuff contained in /etc/rc2.d....are those scripts?
[01:30] <Guest28464> hey I was wondering if someone could help me, I just installed Ubuntu and I noticed I'm missing pretty much an entire hard drive. I'm pretty sure Ubuntu is running off a partition right now so how would I be able to find the rest of the hard drive and the other whole hard drive?
[01:30] <Guest28464> my second HD isn't showing up on the places tab
[01:30] <lstarnes> dan76: they're links to scripts in /etc/init.d/
[01:31] <dan76> istarnes: how would I go about seeing what is being run...I am trying to figure out how to restart my networking
[01:31] <lstarnes> dan76: sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart
[01:31] <aetherfish> hey can someone help me with some printer issues? I can't print from openoffice but everything else seems to work
[01:32] <lstarnes> dan76: its script is /etc/init.d/networking
[01:32] <dan76> Istarnes: will try
[01:32] <bassliner> hmhm
[01:32] <bassliner> [armin@dss:~] apt-cache search bitchx
[01:32] <bassliner> pork - Console-based AOL Instant Messenger & IRC client
[01:32] <bassliner> [armin@dss:~]
[01:32] <FloodBot1> bassliner: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:32] <dan76> Istarnes: hmm so typing /etc/init.d/networking restart would do the same thing?
[01:32] <bassliner> did they really remove bitchx from the repositories?
[01:32] <jrib> !bitchx | bassliner
[01:33] <lstarnes> dan76: you would need sudo before it, but yes
[01:33] <bassliner> jrib: i'm using irssi since almost a decade, i'm just wondering what's going on there hehe :)
[01:33] <jrib> bassliner: the link explains
[01:33] <mhilinski> hi everyone
[01:33] <smerz> hello mhilinski
[01:34] <bassliner> jrib: thanks :)
[01:34] <mhilinski> i got the headphone problem fixed now i have an application problem
[01:34] <andreaz> hey there
[01:35] <mhilinski> hi
[01:35] <dan76> Istarnes: hmm, thats not working..Its doing something at start up that its not doing in that script
[01:35] <mhilinski> in picasa can i scan an image?/
[01:35] <dreamy> (Got not sound watching videos )
[01:35] <andreaz> is it possible to ask for help here?
[01:36] <lstarnes> andreaz: help with what?
[01:36] <mhilinski> any one have any ideas?
[01:36] <andreaz> i need help with my ati xpress 200m on intrepid ibex:/
[01:36] <LjL> !ati
[01:37] <dan76> Istarnes: shouldn't there be some output to messages log when you invoke that script?
[01:37] <bassliner> jrib: there have been fixes released for all 3 reported vulnerabilities in debian tho...
[01:37] <dreamy> !Mp4
[01:37] <lstarnes> dan76: check dmesg (also, use an L, not an i)
[01:37] <andreaz> well in fact i have just a question
[01:38] <jert> has anyone upgraded to 8.10 and lost the network manager?
[01:38] <ugliefrog> does anyone know of a free digital photo analysis software for ubuntu....I couldnt find any plugins for the gimp
[01:38] <slhawkins> Hello
[01:38] <andreaz> my driver should be ok
[01:38] <dan76> lstarnes: L got it...hehe
[01:38] <jrib> bassliner: take it up with debian :)
[01:38] <andreaz> but I cant get gnome effects without getting the system really slow
[01:38] <mhilinski> any one have an ideas on my issue i need a reply please reply to me
[01:38] <smerz> mhilinski: what do you mean with scan an image and picasa?
[01:38] <jpnub> anyone know a good scanning utility for ubuntu??
[01:38] <smerz> you want to scan an image and then upload it?
[01:39] <TopBunny98>
[01:39] <jpnub> haha same question
[01:39] <dan76> lstarnes: it says eth0 is not ready
[01:39] <bassliner> jrib: i even run ubuntu on 3 of my servers and if there's one program that would definitely NOT be a reason to switch back to debian from ubuntu server it's bitch-x :)
[01:39] <EagleScreen> jpnub you have xsane or kooka
[01:39] <usser> jpnub, kooka
[01:40] <bassliner> jrib: but nevermind, was just interested in what's going on there, my old irc days started with bx so i'm kindof in a retro mood when i see it hehe
[01:40] <jpnub> xsane i think
[01:40] <jrib> bassliner: the reason it's not in ubuntu, is purely because it's not in debian
[01:40] <mhilinski> what i mean by that is i would like to know if i can scan an image and resize it all in the same application
[01:40] <lstarnes> dan76: I'm not sure what to do for that
[01:40] <dan76> lstarnes: poop
[01:41] <lstarnes> dan76: check the output of sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:41] <andreaz> is anyone going to help me :)?
[01:41] <smerz> mhilinski: I dont know if you can do it within the scanning program itself (i must be honest, i haven't operated a scanner under linux (yet))
[01:41] <dan76> in dmesg?
[01:41] <bassliner> jrib: well all 3 bugs had a "fix released" on their CVE tracker pages, does that still mean bx will never re-appear in debian's repo?
[01:41] <lstarnes> andreaz: how much ram do you have?
[01:41] <ubuntunoobneedin> mhlinski xsane will do what you need
[01:41] <lstarnes> dan76: no, in the terminal
[01:41] <andreaz> 1G :/
[01:41] <smerz> mhilinski: but there are dozens of programs you could use to resize images, most likely the scanning program itself should have such functionality
[01:41] <lstarnes> andreaz: what about cpu?
[01:41] <bassliner> jrib: maybe my understanding of things is wrong there or something
[01:41] <noIdeasOriginal> ok last try... would updating BIOS or nvidia geforce stuff make the 64bit or 32bit ubuntu finally install?
[01:42] <jrib> bassliner: it probably just depends on someone being willing to maintain it
[01:42] <andreaz> hm intel dual core, i think around 1.8Ghz
[01:42] <dan76> lstarnes: it just says reconfiguring network interfaces...thats it
[01:42] <bassliner> jrib: noone really should be willing to maintain bitch-x *lol*
[01:42] <lstarnes> dan76: are you using dhcp?
[01:42] <keepsake> Hey, anyone know how to turn on selective ACKs?
[01:43] <noIdeasOriginal> ?
[01:43] <bassliner> jrib: nevermind, thanks in advance.
[01:43] <dan76> lstarnes: dhcp, yep..but I think its more basic then that..I don't think its sensing the card on start up everytime
[01:43] <noIdeasOriginal> i guess this newly built pc is not compatible
[01:43] <mhilinski> can you recommand an application so that i can download it and install it a resizeing application
[01:43] <smerz> keepsake: selective ACKs? do you mean this in a networking enviroment? (TCP ACKs?)
[01:44] <usser> mhilinski, gimp
[01:44] <jert> is there a certain way to get the network manager to come up?  ive upgraded to 8.10 from 8.04 and its gone even after reboots
[01:44] <keepsake> smerz: Yes.
[01:44] <smerz> mhilinski: just for resizing images?
[01:44] <mhilinski> yes
[01:44] <smerz> hmm let me find a "simple one"
[01:44] <mhilinski> what can ifor?/
[01:44] <smerz> i have some complex ones in mind
[01:44] <andreaz> Istarnes;can we have a private chat?would be better
[01:45] <Shivam> whats a good program on Ubuntu to use a VPN
[01:45] <smerz> keepsake: normal linux firewalling functionality does not work for you?
[01:45] <lstarnes> andreaz: what about your graphics card?
[01:45] <mhilinski> what can i use picasa 3 for?
[01:45] <andreaz> Ati Xpress 200m, 128 dedicated, 256 shared
[01:45] <usser> Shivam, do you need a compatible one? ie do you already have vpn network to connect to?
[01:45] <Shivam> i have one to connect to already
[01:46] <smerz> mhilinski: Picasa (from Google) is only a platform to share pictures with. please correct me if i missunderstood you
[01:46] <lstarnes> andreaz: I'm not sure how good that is for visual effects
[01:46] <andreaz> hm
[01:46] <keepsake> smerz: What do you mean? I wanted to turn on SACKs to make my router a bit easier faster, since I'm getting a lot of retransmitted packets.
[01:46] <Shivam> nevermind I'm an idiot, got it off add/remove applications
[01:47] <andreaz> Istarnes:so proberly the problem is on hardware power?
[01:47] <usser> Shivam, what does it use? ipsec?
[01:47] <mhilinski> you were right
[01:47] <usser> Shivam, technically network manager can do most vpn stuff
[01:47] <smerz> keepsake: apparrently my networking knowledge is not as good as yours :D. But for firewalling/routing purposes I really like shorewall, I don't know if that helps you at all though
[01:47] <lstarnes> andreaz: I don't know
[01:47] <usser> Shivam, u just have to install a vpn plugin for it
[01:47] <Shivam> oh
[01:47] <keepsake> smerz: Haha, thanks anyway =)
[01:47] <jpnub> Picasa is an image organization and editing tool as well as a web photo system
[01:47] <andreaz> Istarnes:ok..can I ask another question to you?
[01:47] <lstarnes> andreaz: for performance reasons I usually don't use visual effects
[01:48] <usser> Shivam, network-manager-vpnc or network-manager-openvpn
[01:48] <lstarnes> andreaz: just ask the question.  You do not need permission to ask questions here
[01:48] <mhilinski> what kind of linux resizing applications are there behides gimp
[01:48] <smerz> mhilinski: i'm just downloading/testing some. it's trial and error for me too ;-D. one moment please
[01:49] <andreaz> Istarnes:thank you..Im IT student in Padova and I would like to get involved in developement
[01:49] <mhilinski> ok
[01:49] <lstarnes> andreaz: the first letter of my nick is an L, not an i
[01:49] <andreaz> Istarnes : ROFL
[01:50] <stealth-> how can i read the mail cron send me?
[01:50] <stealth-> *sends
[01:50] <usser> stealth-, with a mail command
[01:50] <Shivam> usser: I'm downloading the vpnc daemon
[01:50] <smerz> mhilinski: just resize or resize and cut/crop?
[01:50] <stealth-> usser: oh. thanks, i thought it would be in a directory or something.
[01:50] <s0|> hello, I am wanting to back up my laptop to a windows share on my local net. to test I am trying just one dir, before I do the whole thing, my attempt at a command is "tar -cjvf<EMAIL_ADDRESS>/home/myusername/desktop"    this is not working since it can't write to the SMB... however I am able to see the smb share just find via the gui?  what can I do
[01:50] <andreaz> lstarnes:anyway, is there any website explaining clearly what i do need and who i should get in touch with?
[01:51] <usser> stealth-, or just plaintext files in /var/mail/yourusername
[01:51] <lstarnes> andreaz: I'm not sure
[01:51] <mhilinski> are you still looking smerzjustt resize and crop
[01:51] <smerz> mhilinski: i just installed "mtpaint"
[01:51] <smerz> it looks like a simple version of a picture editor
[01:51] <stealth-> usser: whats the mail command, btw?
[01:52] <usser> s0|, thats not how you do it
[01:52] <andreaz> lstarnes:are you here as helper, developer, or user as me?
[01:52] <usser> stealth-, its an text-mode email client
[01:52] <smerz> mhilinski: yep try "mtpaint" looks good for the job :)
[01:52] <s0|> usser, I gather since it isn't working ;P
[01:52] <usser> s0|, you need smbfs package, sudo apt-get install smbfs
[01:52] <smerz> mhilinski: sudo apt-get install mtpaint
[01:52] <lstarnes> andreaz: I am just a regular user
[01:52] <stealth-> usser: also, my /var/mail directory is empty :|
[01:52] <usser> s0|, then you need to mount the share, sudo mount -t cifs //server/share /mountpoint -o user=yourusername
[01:52] <andreaz> lstarnes:ah..ok
[01:52] <s0|> usser, even though the gui can see it fine without? odd I will attempt
[01:53] <stealth-> usser: but the program obviously ran because I can see the results
[01:53] <usser> s0|, gui does a lot of magic
[01:53] <s0|> usser, have noticed
[01:53] <andreaz> lstarnes: im sorry then..i red somewhere people can join as helper in IRC chats :/
[01:53] <s0|> usser, automagic is nice and curse sometimes
[01:53] <usser> s0|, once you mounted the share you can use it as if it was a local directory ie tar -cvf /mountpoint/archive.tar.gz /pathtoarchive
[01:54] <stealth-> andreaz: people who help here have no special status, as far as the freenode system cares, were considered regular users
[01:54] <smerz> andreaz: nothing wrong with that. You can try and help right here right now. :)
[01:54] <usser> stealth-, hm, on the second thought is it mail command?
[01:54] <dan76> hey what is 'pan' as in pan0
[01:54] <[[Male]]-----> ........ :S :S :S
[01:54] <stealth-> andreaz: well I shouldnt say "were" cause I usually get more help than I give :P
[01:54] <s0|> usser, thank you I will see if I can get that working
[01:54] <usser> stealth-, im not sure actually
[01:55] <[[Male]]----->  HUH? im lost :U :D :D
[01:55] <stealth-> usser: sudo: mail: command not found
[01:55] <renatoNerlock> lol ... ue .. tem alguem awe .. brasileiro .. lol ...
[01:55] <[[Male]]-----> is there someone who speaks spanish ? xD
[01:55] <renatoNerlock> vish .. yes
[01:56] <stealth-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Male-----: there is a spanish support channel
[01:56] <mhilinski> thank you for all your help
[01:56] <[[Male]]-----> thanks ;) :D
[01:56] <stealth-> !spanish | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Male-----
[01:56] <KoKoRiKo> Good evening here
[01:56] <racecar56> im back
[01:56] <iceroot> KoKoRiKo: hi
[01:56] <usser> hm wtf?
[01:56] <KoKoRiKo> I cannot boot in Init 3, I keep getting the login screen , any hints appreciated
[01:56] <stealth-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Male-----: dont use that adress from my first post, i dont know why its in there :S
[01:56] <[[Male]]-----> By the way im a girl :)
[01:56] <s0|> usser, I am afraid it will not mount, I am assuming I need to additionaly specifiy the password? how might I do that?
[01:57] <dan76> hey what device is 'pan' as in pan0 ?
[01:57] <renatoNerlock> y love JOJO  aehaiuehauieha
[01:57] <renatoNerlock> kkkk
[01:57] <KoKoRiKo> couldnt get any help on googling
[01:57] <usser> s0|, it will prompt you for the password, if the username is valid and server and share exist
[01:57] <xerxes> How do i install the tor-router on jaunty?
[01:57] <lstarnes> xerxes: sudo apt-get install tor
[01:57] <usser> s0|, use ip instead of the name
[01:57] <[[Male]]----->  :|
[01:57] <s0|> usser, I have
[01:57] <lstarnes> !es | [[Male]]-----
[01:58] <renatoNerlock> staff is to put video at the bottom of the workspace in ubutun?
[01:58] <xerxes> aptitude doesnt find a candidate version
[01:58] <KoKoRiKo> Any help guys ?
[01:58] <lstarnes> stealth-: you might want to fix whatever script that is
[01:58] <lstarnes> xerxes: do you have the universe repository enabled?
[01:58] <usser> s0|, sure the sharename is correct?
[01:58] <smerz> KoKoRiKo: whats your problem? you cant login after booting runlevel 3?
[01:58] <syntax\> is there anyway to use two different dns servers? 1 is an intranet dns(192.168.x.x) and the other is a dsl dns server(55.x.x.x)?
[01:58] <aprilhare> i run vidalia and tor but tor starts at startup, fails, then vidalia detects tor already running and dies when i run it during login - is there a way to make tor not start on startup?
[01:58] <xerxes> how do i do so, lstarnes?
[01:59] <s0|> looking at in the gui ( which says<EMAIL_ADDRESS>)
[01:59] <stealth-> lstarnes: it doesn't appear to be broken. Its a fairly simple backup script with no piping or any rerouting of stout and such
[01:59] <racecar56> im using ubuntu 8.10 and it won't let me install the ati radeon fglrx driver, the hardware drivers thingy says for a millisecond that it's downloading & installing driver, but when it disappears it still says the driver isn't enabled.
[01:59] <KoKoRiKo> smerz not really , I can boot in init1 but when i type telinit 3 it takes me to the login screen i need a non graghical mode
[01:59] <syntax\> because as checked on over and over, i can only use one in the resolv.conf
[01:59] <usser> s0|, so the command would be sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/share /mnt -o user=user
[01:59] <usser> s0|, did u install smbfs?
[01:59] <s0|> which fails to mount
[02:00] <smerz> KoKoRiKo: you could just switch to a text console by using CTRL+ALT+F2. But that doesnt help you right? You need to disable the graphical interface in runlevel3 if you dont want it
[02:00] <xerxes> Yes, I think I have the universe repository enabled, lstarnes
[02:00] <stealth-> lstarnes: I think i'll try piping the output to a file so I can see if that helps any. Thanks for your help
[02:00] <syntax\> i mean one, if i was to use the intranet dns its only fixated to the intranet. if i was to use the world ip dns its fixated to the world ip
[02:00] <lstarnes> xerxes: I'm not sure if that package is in jaunty.  try asking about it in #ubuntu+1
[02:00] <KoKoRiKo> smerz indeed, i need to disable the gui on level3 , any idea how to ?
[02:01] <smerz> not from the top of my head
[02:01] <smerz> but i'll find it out real quick
[02:01] <xerxes> thanx, lstanes
[02:01] <xerxes> lstarnes
[02:01] <foooo> Question: What I write two lines like "ffmpeg -i input.mpg <options> output.mp4" for example only the first line gets executed, it's like I didn't paste another line below the first. I'm thinking this is a ubuntu specific question because ffmpeg documentation shows examples like this working.
[02:01] <ianm_> is it possible to have a wacom NOT move the mouse cursor but still be available to apps via xinput ?
[02:01] <KoKoRiKo> smerz if I attempt to kill x server i will get a blank screen and the system hangs
[02:01] <s0|> usser, I was able to isntall smbfs successfully.
[02:02] <KoKoRiKo> im running ubuntu 7.10 gusty
[02:02] <usser> s0|, try to mount it
[02:02] <smerz> but you could switch to a text console right?
[02:02] <s0|> usser, (before I attempted the mount)
[02:02] <KoKoRiKo> smerz No I cannot
[02:02] <KoKoRiKo> I seems that only it is possible in level1
[02:02] <KoKoRiKo> level 3 takes me to the login screen
[02:02] <usser> foooo, you cant paste multiple lines in the terminal and expect it to work, try executing them one by one or separate them with &&
[02:02] <smerz> well im in the GUI now. and i could switch to a text console by pressing CTRL+ALT+F2
[02:02] <KoKoRiKo> Ive been googling for an answer since a week and no luck
[02:02] <usser> s0|, does it say anything, any error messages? can you ping that ip?
[02:03] <KoKoRiKo> smerz yes I know that it is possible but I believe nvidia driver screwed up everything
[02:03] <smerz> hmm
[02:03] <foooo> If I write something like "for input in *.mpg; do ffmpeg -i "$input" <options> "$output"; done"; This doesn't work either. And it SHOULD work in a script but it doesn't.
[02:03] <s0|> usser, pinging the ip works, just says it can't change dir to mount target
[02:04] <smerz> so basically you are unable right now you cannot to switch to a text console (by CTRL+ALT+F1    not F2) ?
[02:04] <KoKoRiKo> smerz,  exactly
[02:04] <smerz> thats why you cant it gone in runlevel 3
[02:04] <smerz> makes sense
[02:04] <KoKoRiKo> yes
[02:04] <smerz> yeah let me google that. can't remember how to ammend that
[02:04] <usser> s0|, what do you mean? does the mount command ever finish? are you attempting to cd to the mount point and it fails?
[02:04] <KoKoRiKo> smerz thank you
[02:05] <smerz> KoKoRiKo: apt-get install rcconf
[02:05] <foooo> One file finishes it looks perfect with no noticeable problems except the script doesn't continue onto the next file.
[02:05] <smerz> i would recommend disabling GUI in runlevel 2
[02:05] <cjae> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_T-DOishkk     -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX7Z4tTx67s  -> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/21/proposed-heavy-restrictions-internet-freedoms/
[02:05] <smerz> and set default to 3
[02:05] <usser> foooo, pastebin the script, any error messages?
[02:05] <starfruit> how to create a 802.1q on my nic interface? eth0
[02:05] <_chun> I'm having trouble getting open-office to open .doc files in firefox (not opening a new office window) -- I have the mozilla-openoffice.org plugin installed, and it works just fine for .odt files. I've tried setting the plugin for doc files in preferences>applications, pointing it towards the .so plugin file, but it refuses to open the files in the browser. any help?
[02:06] <smerz> if you want to do it manually you can ammend scripts in /etc/init.d/rc2 (remove GUI startup here)
[02:06] <KoKoRiKo> smerz,  i disable the gui with rcconf ?
[02:06] <smerz> and add/move it to /etc/init.d/rc3
[02:06] <KoKoRiKo> ahh
[02:06] <s0|> usser, after I hit enter for "mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/share /mnt -o user=user" the line after immdetetly comes up and says "mount error: can not change directory into mount target /mnt "
[02:06] <foooo> No error messages I tried #!/bin/bash -x; I'll pastebin it for more information.
[02:06] <smerz> rcconf should be a GUI tool to do the job for you easier
[02:06] <usser> s0|, try with sudo?
[02:06] <starfruit> _chun, do you mean launch open office from firefox or open it with in firefox?
[02:06] <usser> s0|, does /mnt exist?
[02:07] <s0|> usser, that was w/ sudo
[02:07] <s0|> or rather after "sudo su"
[02:07] <usser> s0|, does ls / | grep mnt say anything?
[02:07] <smerz> KoKoRiKo: ok apparrently that tool is very limited :(
[02:08] <s0|> usser, yes it says mnt
[02:08] <KoKoRiKo> smerz,  yes I noticed so
[02:08] <smerz> i know there is a better one out there
[02:08] <usser> s0|, do this mkdir ~/backup
[02:08] <FFEMTcJ> I'm trying to setup tightvncserver using xfce4 as the desktop... all that i get when i open the remote desktop is an orange background and a x term window... what am i doing wrong that isnt allowing me to see anything else?
[02:08] <KoKoRiKo> /etc/init.d/rc2 does not exist on my system smerz
[02:08] <usser> s0|, and change the mount command to point to that
[02:08] <foooo> usser: http://pastebin.com/m1a49f82c
[02:08] <lstarnes> KoKoRiKo: /etc/rc2.d
[02:09] <KoKoRiKo> ok thanks lstarnes
[02:09] <smerz> yeah my mistake
[02:09] <Rob235> man i really cant figure this out, how do you disable alias/nicknames in pidgin
[02:10] <nA1828KcFz9q> hello, if i use startx, i do not have sound ?
[02:10] <KoKoRiKo> smerz,  S50screen in rc2.d ?
[02:10] <_chun> starfruit: within firefox. I know it's possible, since it works fine for odt files, just can't seem to enable it for doc files
[02:10] <hax0r1337> Hi guys, I have 2PCs with 2 NICs, I used 2nd NIC for crossover connection, on each of them I ran 'ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>' & 'ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>', and then routed using: 'route add -host <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth1' and brought them up with 'ifconfig eth1 up', however the LEDs on NICs aren't even lit, those commands worked for me before.
[02:11] <smerz> KoKoRiKo: good question. I think it's Xserver
[02:11] <IfTrueElseFalse> how do i find a repository that hosts java?
[02:11] <KoKoRiKo> cd ..
[02:11] <KoKoRiKo> oups
[02:12] <s0|> usser, ok, now saw I want to back up "/" do I need to exclude this to aviod backing up the remote dir as well?
[02:12] <Shivam> Okay I have VPN server address user and pass, I need help accessing it with my Ubuntu
[02:12] <KoKoRiKo> smerz,  there is no Xserver thing in rc2.d
[02:12] <usser> s0|, yes i believe tar has an --exclude option
[02:12] <Rofl-> Does ndiswrapper work with 8.10?
[02:12] <nassrat> hi, under gnome ssh-askpass pops up whenever needed even from inside gnome-terminal. But under kde ssh-askpass only pops up when there is no terminal (as the ssh-add docs say). How do I make KDE more like gnome
[02:12] <usser> s0|, but you can't backup live filesystems you need to do all that from livecd
[02:12] <smerz> KoKoRiKo: yeah it has to be one of them though :LD
[02:13] <IfTrueElseFalse> Shivam: ssh?
[02:13] <s0|> ........
[02:13] <KoKoRiKo> smerz, hehe
[02:13] <Shivam> i can do that?
[02:13] <foooo> usser: After the "read input" it exits even tho there's a file it should be reading which is 20 lines long aprox.
[02:13] <s0|> usser, thank you for pointing that out.
[02:13] <smerz> KoKoRiKo: probalby S90single
[02:13] <KoKoRiKo> smerz,  maybe S10xserver-xorg-input-wacom ?
[02:14] <s0|> I suppose the fact I only want to preserv the vpn settings I labored away getting to ****'ing work on the command line is worth backing up the whole drive with dd anyways
[02:14] <smerz> hmm im just looking. I'm in runlevel 2 right now
[02:14] <usser> foooo, well i see that in all cases that it skips the ffmpeg command if [ -f $output ] actually returns true
[02:14] <smerz> and the gui starts at the end so
[02:14] <KoKoRiKo> thanks
[02:14] <IfTrueElseFalse> Shivam: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:14] <keepsake> Anyone know how to set MTU? I tried to change some of my settings, and it reset MTU to 1480 >__<
[02:14] <usser> foooo, which means files its trying to output to already exist so it skips them
[02:14] <Shivam> yeah got it thanks
[02:15] <usser> foooo, line 17 in your pastebin for example
[02:15] <usser> foooo, check that this files isnt already there
[02:15] <KoKoRiKo> smerz, would file-rc help ?
[02:15] <foooo> usser: That was just one file tho it's part of script, but there's like 20 lines! It should be continuing.
[02:15] <keepsake> Also, anyone know how to reset sysctl.conf values to default?
[02:15] <smerz> KoKoRiKo: dunno
[02:16] <smerz> KoKoRiKo: apparrently it's "gdm" https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-July/087620.html
[02:16] <IfTrueElseFalse> where can i find a repository to check out java with aptitude?
[02:16] <usser> foooo, does the same thing on line 22
[02:16] <LjL> !java > IfTrueElseFalse    (IfTrueElseFalse, see the private message from ubottu)
[02:16] <usser> foooo, it just skips the rest of the loop cause files are already there
[02:16] <usser> foooo, same files or files with the same name
[02:16] <smerz> KoKoRiKo: so changing default runlevel to 3 and removing S30gdm from startup in runlevel2 could be a solution
[02:17] <IfTrueElseFalse> thanks LjL
[02:17] <KoKoRiKo> smerz im looing into that please hold on
[02:17] <Luna_chan> does anyone know how to install files onto an ubuntu using computer??
[02:18] <racecar56> Luna_chan, whaa?
[02:18] <bassliner> Luna_chan: we're all just using nintendo gameboy's.
[02:18] <squidly> how can I tell the status of a deamon started by from an init script?
[02:19] <Luna_chan> um say what?
[02:19] <phoenixz> I need a crontab program to be executed every minute, 1 * * * * seems to do it only once every hour.. How do I specify every minute?
[02:19]  * usser gets by with a stone tablet
[02:19] <racecar56> does 8.10 work with a radeon 9500?
[02:19] <stew> phoenixz: * * * * *
[02:19]  * nassrat hating ssh-askpass
[02:19] <bassliner> phoenixz: replace the 1 with a *
[02:19] <smerz> KoKoRiKo: this link seems to pretty much describe what you want http://stackoverflow.com/questions/78408/how-do-i-change-default-runlevel-in-ubuntu
[02:20] <tritium> !runlevels | KoKoRiKo
[02:20] <wgrant> racecar56: Yes, with full 3D acceleration by default.
[02:20] <racecar56> wgrant, woot
[02:20] <Luna_chan> i am officialy confused...
[02:20] <foooo> usser: Yea, that's because I've run the script multiple times to finish some of the files but it always exits once ffmpeg gets executed it can't read another line. It's very strange, been using bash forever like years and I'm stumped.
[02:20] <phoenixz> stew: bassliner: thanks!
[02:21] <KoKoRiKo> tritium, so what do u suggest ?
[02:21] <wgrant> squidly: Many initscripts (at least in Intrepid and later, and more in Jaunty) have a 'status' action. Some of those will indicate the status in their exit code, others (like PostgreSQL's) will also print more detailed information.
[02:21] <tritium> KoKoRiKo: I only caught smerz' comment to you, and thought I'd share that info.  What are you trying to accomplish?
[02:21] <blap> can someone please help me setup my samba username and password?
[02:21] <squidly> wgrant: yea I konw. I would like to see it all in once like gentoo's rc-staus
[02:21] <starfruit> where is network config file for eth0 and wlan0?
[02:21] <KoKoRiKo> tritium, i cannot run level 3 without gui
[02:22] <KoKoRiKo> tritium,  i keep getting the login screen
[02:22] <brandon_> hey guys i have a flash disk type thing, and it only mounts as read only, anyway to fix this?
[02:22] <phoenixz> Luna_chan: you may start with rephrasing your question, it officially confuses us..
[02:22] <tritium> KoKoRiKo: what do you want level 3 for?
[02:22] <lstarnes> starfruit: /etc/network/interfaces
[02:22] <squidly> starfruit: /etc/network/interfaces
[02:22] <nassrat> yeah debian doesnt have the notion of runlevels
[02:22] <lstarnes> nassrat: it does
[02:22] <eseven73> Would it hurt my LAMP setup if I install today's LAMP updates? I'm using Ubuntu Server Edition and I really don't want to screw things up
[02:22] <wgrant> lstarnes: It does, but they're not used like they are in Red Hat derivative.s
[02:22] <starfruit> lstarnes, squidly i don't see wlan0 and eth0
[02:22] <nassrat> lstarnes: i mean like runlevel 3
[02:22] <starfruit> only loop back
[02:22] <KoKoRiKo> tritium, I need to install my Nvidia driver and I need to kill x server and when I do so I get a blank screen and the system freezes
[02:22] <squidly> starfruit: you make to make them
[02:23] <squidly> !interfaces | starfruit
[02:23] <starfruit> ok
[02:23] <kindofabuzz> eseven73, it's not like they don't test everything. but that's your choice. i'd definatly do any security updates
[02:23] <lstarnes> nassrat: by default, runlevels 2-5 are configured to use the same settings
[02:23] <squidly> starfruit: man interfaces
[02:23] <wgrant> starfruit: In a default desktop installation, network configuration is performed through NetworkManager. See SYstem->Preferences->Network Connections.
[02:23] <toddnorcross> I'm incredibly new to ubuntu.  I've only used Suse, and that was about two years ago
[02:23] <foooo> usser; it continues the first two times then when it makes it past the condition it runs ffmpeg and doesn't read another line. Any ideas? Is this Ubuntu specific since the ffmpeg documentation shows multiple executions of ffmpeg similarly?
[02:23] <toddnorcross> I've got some installation questions that I'm hoping someone can answer for me
[02:23] <wgrant> eseven73: We are *very* conservative in what we put in updates to stable releases. You should test on a non-production box first, but Ubuntu updates are generally very safe.
[02:23] <eseven73> kindofabuzz, yeah im just paranoid about updates, 90% of the time they screw things up
[02:23] <nassrat> lstarnes: what i mean is there is no way of easily switching back and forth from gui to non gui using runlevels. Which IMHO is a valid runlevel
[02:23] <tritium> KoKoRiKo: all you need to do to install nvidia drivers is "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx", or use System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers.  No need for runlevel modifications.
[02:24] <usser> foooo, let me actually test with actual video files hang on
[02:24] <eseven73> ok
[02:24] <eseven73> ty
[02:24] <blap> can someone please help me setup my samba username and password so I can view my files on a other windows machine on my network?
[02:24] <psychic> how do i force quit pidgin
[02:24] <psychic> ?
[02:24] <zaza> hi there, i got problem with ubuntu 64bit
[02:24] <kindofabuzz> eseven73, that's why you should do backups regularly =)
[02:24] <starfruit> wgrant, u mean gui for /etc/network/interfaces ...
[02:24] <lstarnes> nassrat: you can have gdm/kdm/whatever load up only on certain runlevels
[02:24] <nassrat> lstarnes: what do you mean by default. so i can change that
[02:24] <eseven73> yeah I do but still
[02:24] <zaza> the problem is when i'm booting there are noisy sound
[02:24] <KoKoRiKo> tritium,  I am installing nvidia drivers from the website they are up todate now
[02:24] <toddnorcross> can someone help me get ubuntu installed on a 32bit pc?
[02:24] <wgrant> starfruit: That doesn't use /etc/network/interfaces. It uses a different mechanism which might eventually replace it.
[02:24] <kindofabuzz> zaza, like static?
[02:25] <wgrant> !ask | toddnorcross
[02:25] <KoKoRiKo> tritium, I get this  ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[02:25] <KoKoRiKo>          installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING
[02:25] <nassrat> lstarnes: you mean by rm-ing the links or using the update-rc.d
[02:25] <nassrat> ?
[02:25] <toddnorcross> i burned the ISO to a cd and now it will only boot if I have the CD in the tay
[02:25] <lstarnes> nassrat: either
[02:25] <tritium> KoKoRiKo: we don't support nvidia.com downloads when there are drivers in the repositories.
[02:25] <wgrant> KoKoRiKo: Use System->Administration->Hardware Drivers. That will do everything for you easily.
[02:25] <starfruit> wgrant, i see
[02:25] <Luna_chan> phoenixz: sorry, how bout this, i need a way to put music onto my zune using ubuntu...im not sure how to do that
[02:26] <phase_shift314> i would like terminal to stay open after i run a command/script when ubuntu 8.04 boots, how can i do this?
[02:26] <zaza> anyone knows why ubuntu make noise when booting??
[02:26] <usser> foooo, hm it doesnt even execute at all here
[02:26] <nassrat> K, anybody here know how i can make ssh-askpass pop up inside a terminal
[02:26] <dassouki> how can i disable bluetooth when ubuntu starts
[02:26] <brandon_> hey guys i have a flash disk type thing, and it only mounts as read only, anyway to fix this?
[02:26] <stealth-> zaza: makes noise? like audio through the speakers?
[02:26] <kyller> hi
[02:26] <usser> foooo, is the script in the same directory with videos?
[02:26] <Lint01> where I can find anacron log?
[02:26] <stealth-> !hi | kyller
[02:26] <foooo> Umm I have the full pathnames in the input file.
[02:26] <akenO> Anyone know how to access the output of Wine
[02:26] <akenO> A program isnt working right
[02:27] <akenO> and I wanted to see why its not loading
[02:27] <kindofabuzz> akenO, run it from command line
[02:27] <kindofabuzz> akenO, wine <program name>
[02:27] <brandon_> omfg
[02:27] <stealth-> akenO: wine output is very confusing, and its likely to be above your head, but you can run it from the command line
[02:27] <zaza> stealth- yup .. very noisy sound when loading / booting ubuntu intrepid
[02:27] <zaza> okey guys.. got to goy..; chat some other time..
[02:27] <zaza> tq
[02:27] <stealth-> zaza: so your noise through the speakers? what kind of noise?
[02:27] <foooo> usser: It's like ffmpeg doesn't wanna get scripted lol. Which makes things hard for me  since the encoding might take about half hour then I have to type the next line.
[02:28] <nassrat> anybody here know anythin about SSH_ASKPASS?
[02:28] <RickX> is there a group of apps/utilities that will allow me to compile from source?
[02:28] <kindofabuzz> zaza, fresh install? because i remember i had the same problem with a fresh install, did the updates and everything was fine after that
[02:28] <phase_shift314> i would like terminal to stay open after i run a command/script when ubuntu 8.04 boots, how can i do this? i tried putting read at the end of the script but that only worked once
[02:28] <zaza> the sound from my laptop.. it's a buzzer kind of sound....
[02:28] <brandon_> hey guys i have a flash disk type thing, and it only mounts as read only, anyway to fix this?
[02:29] <toddnorcross> ubuntu will only boot to my pc if I have the ubunto system disk in my cd tray.  Can someone tell me why it won't load to my HDD and load from there?
[02:29] <kindofabuzz> RickX, install build-essentials and you will have evrything to compile from source, except the deps needed for whatever you're trying to build of course
[02:29] <usser> foooo, indeed only one file is converted, it does read input afterwards but apparently nothing is read
[02:29] <nassrat> anbody here uses SSH?
[02:29] <Lint01> where I can find anacron log?
[02:29] <foooo> usser: Maybe directing input into the command might help I'm thinking I saw something similar once.
[02:29] <Jugsins> Hey guys, anybody mind helping me with a quick question?
[02:29] <RickX> kindofabuzz: thanks. Thats the package I was looking for.
[02:29] <Pulgarcito> Lint01:/var/log probably
[02:30] <syntax\> lo can anyone help me out with my problem? :D
[02:30] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, probably %98 of linux uses use SSH
[02:30] <stealth-> zaza: mine does that too sometimes, but i just ignore it. I'm not actually sure what causes it, but its done no obvious harm in the few years i've been using it. I'm assuming your sound is like mine, but I cant tell since I cant actually hear it for myself.
[02:30] <karim_> sorry its KoKoRiKo  , disconnected
[02:30] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: ok you using ssh-askpass under kde?
[02:30] <usser> foooo, why dont you try reading the entire input file first then go line by line instead of reading the input in the loop condition
[02:30] <stealth-> !repeat | syntax\
[02:30] <picaboo> QUIT :RumjatarIRC v0.1 -http://www.rirc.org
[02:30] <syntax\> i need to use two dns servers @ stealth-
[02:30] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, no sorry, i use gnome, what is ssh-askpass? a gui for a password?
[02:31] <picaboo> QUIT :RumjatarIRC v0.1 -http://www.rirc.org
[02:31] <syntax\> stealth-: one is an intranet one and the other is a dsl dns server.
[02:31] <Pulgarcito> x11-ssh-askpass is a lightweight passphrase dialog for OpenSSH or other open
[02:31] <Pulgarcito>      variants of SSH.
[02:31] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: yeah, and I think you get it by default in gnome
[02:31] <Pulgarcito> I assume it's a gui for ssh
[02:31] <syntax\> i was able to configure two NIC having an intranet ip and a world(dsl) ip.
[02:31] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: i guess you dont use ssh-keys
[02:31] <picaboo> QUIT :RumjatarIRC v0.1 -http://www.rirc.org
[02:32] <cjae> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947
[02:32] <usser> foooo, hang on lemme pull my sync script
[02:32] <stealth-> syntax\: ummmmm... Im not familiar with dns, sorry. I was just saying that if noone knows your answer you won't get an answer. It's fine to repeat your question every once and a while, just dont ask "can noone help me?" because then people arn't even seeing your question
[02:32] <akenO> Thanks for telling me about it!
[02:32] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, i just get a password line in terminal, plus i have it set to where i don't have to enter a pass to enter my ssh server
[02:32] <tritium> cjae: please don't post URLs like that
[02:32] <syntax\> okies stealth xD thanks.
[02:32] <toddnorcross> some of you guys are incredibly rude.  Some of us are new to linux in particular, to ubuntu.  We're not all computer nerds with nothing better to do with our time than get geeked out by our machines in mommies basement.   Not the plural.
[02:32]  * cjae follows ostrict suite
[02:33] <kindofabuzz> toddnorcross, i do all those, and i'm a nerd too =)
[02:33]  * cjae follows ostrich suite
[02:33] <tritium> cjae: stop
[02:33] <brandon_> omfg, ubuntu is mounting EVERY partition as read only O.O
[02:33] <toddnorcross> no one will help.  there are really rude responses flying all around
[02:33] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: you have it set where you dont ener a password? that sounds somewhat insecure. so if i raid your machine I can log into all your remote machines by looking at your known-hosts file
[02:33] <mase_work> toddnorcross: rude in what way ?
[02:33] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, not insecure at all
[02:33] <mhilinski> how do i uninstall Picasa3
[02:33] <RickX> thanks.. its coming down now.
[02:33] <mase_work> toddnorcross: i had a quick scroll up and couldn't see anything really offensive
[02:33] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: you need to use a passphrase on your key, trust me
[02:34] <brandon_> ...
[02:34] <unitedpotsmokers> hey guys, i have a problem when i uninstall open office & reinstall it back (version 3.0.1). after i enter to /OOO300_m15_native_packed-1_en-US.9379/DEBS/desktop-integration/ and type sudo dpkg -i openoffice.org3.0-debian-menus_3.0-9376_all.deb, it said Errors were encountered while processing: openoffice.org3.0-debian-menus_3.0-9376_all.deb. how to solve this problem?
[02:34] <brandon_> !mtab
[02:34] <Pulgarcito> Lint01: Really? try "locate crond"
[02:34] <brandon_> omfg, ubuntu is mounting EVERY partition as read only O.O a little help would be nice
[02:34] <wgrant> unitedpotsmokers: We can't support third-party packages like that.
[02:34] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, ssh-keygen -t rsa
[02:34] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: and then put a passphrase when it asks you to
[02:34] <wgrant> unitedpotsmokers: You might want to ask the producers of that package.
[02:34] <Pulgarcito> I have a few logs for Dillions cron with that name
[02:35] <stealth-> toddnorcross: if your talking about people getting lectured for repeating the question, what do you expect? If we don't know the answer, we don't know the answer. Trying to keep the channel organized and not full of people repeating their question is not being rude.
[02:35] <wgrant> kindofabuzz: It is a really, really bad idea to have an un-passworded SSH key.
[02:35] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, no, i don't even do that, if a computer doesn't have that key, it's going to ask for a password
[02:35] <brandon_> wtf
[02:35] <tritium> unitedpotsmokers: in addition, there is a PPA for openoffice 3.0
[02:35] <Lint01> Pulgarcito, there's no crond installed, but there's anacron
[02:35] <pulgoki> when you install ubuntu does it install beryl by default?
[02:35] <stealth-> !who toddnorcross
[02:35] <juls4> Does anyone here have substantial experience with the NVIDIA proprietary drivers?
[02:35] <stealth-> opps
[02:35] <stealth-> lol
[02:36] <brandon_>  i guess noone will help me
[02:36] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: the key you generated is plain text, if you copy you .ssh/id_rsa into this window anybody can use it. Whereas if i copy mine here nobody can use it
[02:36] <tritium> brandon_: you didn't ask a question.
[02:36] <wgrant> pulgoki: Beryl has been obsolete for almost two years now - but Ubuntu does by default install Compiz Fusion, which replaces it.
[02:36] <Jugsins> Guys, whenever I mount my iPod on my linux machine Rhythmbox closes and if I open it, it flashes up for a second and then closes. Anybody know why/can help me out?
[02:36] <wgrant> nassrat: Although copying it here is still probably unwise.
[02:36] <mhilinski> what does ppa stand for
[02:36] <pulgoki> wgrant: is there a way to "not" install that stuff by default?
[02:36] <wgrant> mhilinski: Personal Package Archive.
[02:36] <ezekial> what type of ipod?
[02:36] <brandon_> ok then: how do i stop my ubuntu from mounting everything as read only by default?
[02:36] <wgrant> pulgoki: You can certainly uninstall or disable it easily.
[02:36] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, id_rsa.pub is not plain text
[02:36] <picaboo> ok :)
[02:36] <pulgoki> wgrant: it doesnt work well on my laptop
[02:36] <Miesco> How do I downgrade a package?
[02:37] <picaboo> ok :)
[02:37] <foooo> usser: here's an example ffmpeg I made which makes a short movie outa a pixmap "ffmpeg -loop_input -i /usr/share/pixmaps/firefox-3.0.png -r 1 -vframes 10 -y /tmp/test.mp4"; It's good for testing.
[02:37] <mhilinski> how do i uninstall picasa3
[02:37] <pulgoki> wgrant: i cant even see the display enough to uninstall anything
[02:37] <pulgoki> its very cluttered and washed out
[02:37] <usser> foooo, nah i got a bucn of small videofiles its ok
[02:37] <wgrant> pulgoki: Which version of Ubuntu are you using? What type of graphics card?
[02:37] <Pulgarcito> Lint0q: Just googled it, apparently anacron logs itself to /var/log/system.log for MacOS
[02:37] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: google it or something. PS, I think you misundrestood what i meant by plaintext, it means it is not encrypted
[02:38] <god__> I got a few questions about my graphics card. Anyone up for it?
[02:38] <wgrant> !ask | god__
[02:38] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABIwAAAQEArLRw4pgojIkWUgt42q/e6SXdEe/qGKazQh3xi6dRt2m$ looks pretty crypted to me =)
[02:38] <wgrant> kindofabuzz: Destroy that key on all of your remote machines *now*.
[02:38] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: can i see .ssh/id_rsa
[02:39] <wgrant> kindofabuzz: It is simply encoding.
[02:39] <MarkJones> Can anyone say if its possible to make a desktop launcher for "sudo tilp"?
[02:39] <nassrat> you copy yours and i will mine
[02:39] <juls4> O
[02:39] <wgrant> s/encoding/encoded/
[02:39] <Jugsins> Guys, whenever I mount my iPod on my linux machine Rhythmbox closes and if I open it, it flashes up for a second and then closes. Anybody know why/can help me out?
[02:39] <brandon_> ok then: how do i stop my ubuntu from mounting everything as read only by default?
[02:39] <pulgoki> wgrant: newest ubuntu i believe and its a dell inspiron with radeon x300
[02:39] <wgrant> MarkJones: You could make a launcher for 'gksudo tilp'; that will prompt for your password in a window rather than a terminal.
[02:39] <MarkJones> Ive tried making a desktop launcher using sudo but never get asked for passowrd and app doesnt aunch.
[02:39] <wgrant> pulgoki: OK. Can you get a terminal by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[02:39] <pulgoki> sure
[02:39] <MarkJones> Perfect! thank you very much
[02:39] <foooo> usser: Success!!! Direct input into it like I guessed and it'll work. like this "ffmpeg options input output stuff < /dev/null".
[02:39] <wgrant> pulgoki: If so, log in and 'apt-get remove compiz'
[02:40] <brandon_> I love linux but if this cnat be resolved i will have to switch back to windows
[02:40] <god__> fair enough, whenever I try to enable my Nvidia graphics card's properietary drivers I get sent for a reboot. That makes sense its supposed to happen. Im pretty sure however that Im not suppose to freeze up on a black screen upon reboot. Does any know of a way to figure out whats going on, or perhpas know where i can get an open source driver?
[02:40] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, so ssh-keygen -t rsa is useless?
[02:40] <Jordan_U> wgrant, Isn't that the public key though, I am just guessing by the file name but as long as he doesn't post the private key he should be fine, right?
[02:40] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: you need ot put a passphrase
[02:40] <wgrant> Jordan_U: Ah, yes, didn't notice that...
[02:40] <usser> foooo, aaah so ffmpeg attempts to read from stdin as well?? wth for???
[02:40] <kindofabuzz> brandon_, /etc/fstab
[02:40] <pulgoki> wgrant: okie. too bad there is not an option to leave that out during install so it doesnt leave the display useless :(
[02:40] <wgrant> kindofabuzz: If that's just the public key, you're fine.
[02:40] <stealth-> MarkJones: dont use sudo for graphical resons. Use gksudo for graphical stuff.
[02:40] <juls4> Does anyone here have substantial experience with NVIDA proprietary drivers & xrandr? I'm trying to add an undetected resolution and am getting a "xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed" error. Can anyone help me out??
[02:40] <add_> zheshi
[02:40] <stealth-> !repeat | brandon_
[02:41] <add_> 大家好
[02:41] <wgrant> pulgoki: We try to disable it by default on machines on which we know it doesn't work. You should try Ubuntu 9.04 when it is released in a couple of days, and if it still doesn't work properly file a bug.
[02:41] <nassrat> wgrant: yeah but his key is still not encrypted. any user accessing his machine can raid his life
[02:41] <god__> seems there are a few of us having trouble with nvidia
[02:41] <foooo> usser: probably for the output file since it's the only one not specified by a switch thing.
[02:41] <fearful> I'm having problems enabling desktop effects after connecting a projector on Ubuntu, tried restoring a recent backup of xorg.conf nothing happened, how do I re install the graphics card Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME Integrated Graphics is my card
[02:41] <pulgoki> wgrant: nice.. thank you
[02:41] <wgrant> juls4: The NVIDIA proprietary driver doesn't really support much of XRandR.
[02:41] <toddnorcross> i have followed the installation instructions and have rebooted my machine as directed, but ubuntu will only boot up if the system disk is in my cdtray, any suggestions?
[02:41] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, that's the thing, no one is on it but me
[02:41] <pulgoki> wgrant: it works well without compiz
[02:41] <pulgoki> :P
[02:41] <wgrant> toddnorcross: What does it do otherwise?
[02:41] <syntax\> I need to use two name servers, the 1st one is an intranet nameserver (<IP_ADDRESS>) and the other is a name server from my dsl. I have two NIC's one is for the intranet and the other is for the dsl. eth0 has the ip configuration for my dsl and eth1 has the ip for the intranet. both of which are on static configurations. if i was to set the intranet nameserver on the 1st line of /etc/resolv.conf, then id try to disable the dsl NIC resolving would be ok, the
[02:41] <syntax\> n if i was to try to reup the NIC that has the dsl config and disable the NIC that has the intranet resolving won't work. /etc/resolv.conf has the dsl nameserver on the 2nd line.
[02:41] <add_> 有没有intel 815的驱动？
[02:42] <crdlb> fearful: the problem is almost assuredly the 'Virtual' line in your xorg.conf
[02:42] <toddnorcross> nothing, it tells me to insert my system disk
[02:42] <syntax\> sorry for flooding.
[02:42] <wgrant> pulgoki: Good - but please try Ubuntu 9.04 with Compiz, and if it doesn't work by default you should tell us with a bug.
[02:42] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: its not secure, thats the issue. see wgrant thought you copied your private key. if I copy mine you cannot do anything to it
[02:42] <animesh> hey
[02:42] <juls4> wgrant: really? So I can't use xrandr to configure a forced resolution? Could that be the reason for the error?
[02:42] <fearful> crdlb, thanks I'll check that out, if I have problems I'll tell you
[02:43] <usser> foooo, good catch there.
[02:43] <wgrant> juls4: It might support that, but IIRC NVIDIA do Bad Things™ with overriding RandR modes because of TwinView.
[02:43] <TheFunkbomb> could someone help me with Evolution?  Specifically, is it okay to use pop instead of imap?
[02:43] <god__> im looking for a driver for my nvidia gfx card. The proprietary one kills my start up
[02:43] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, so you're saying someone could still hack my server? they'd still have to guess my password or have my key
[02:43] <usser> foooo, why would ffmpeg read from stdin is beyond me
[02:43] <wgrant> juls4: You should use the NVIDIA control panel thingy, because they like avoiding standards.
[02:43] <crdlb> fearful: gnome-display-properties added it, and all you need to do is remove it
[02:43] <picaboo> hi
[02:43] <wgrant> kindofabuzz: I just have to sneak up to your laptop when you're not looking. Then I have your servers.
[02:44] <kindofabuzz> wgrant, by copying the key from id_rsa.pub?
[02:44] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: have your key is the main concern
[02:44] <juls4> wgrant: the NVIDIA x server settings (if that's the NVIDIA control panel) doesn't give me any other options as far as resolutions. only the detected range which is far bellow what my monitor is capable of.
[02:44] <wgrant> kindofabuzz: id_rsa, not .pub.
[02:45] <jtbandes> How would one go about reading input from a single button connected via USB?
[02:45] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: if you have a passphrase, even if they have your key they cant use it, and if you use random passwords then its pretty secure
[02:45] <kindofabuzz> nassrat, wgrant well my desktop is not a laptop and the server is in my house too. =) no worries
[02:45] <stealth-> would setting up a cron job for my server to automatically update and upgrade be a bad idea?
[02:45] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: but the passphrase should be quite long and hard to guess
[02:45] <racecar56> does 8.10 work with a radeon RV280SE? i'm not sure what a RV280SE is in the other kind of models (e.g. 2400) someone says it's a 9200, but i'm not sure
[02:45] <wgrant> stealth-: See the unattended-upgrades package.
[02:45] <nassrat> kindofabuzz: i meant in general
[02:45] <god__> can someone plz point in a direction that can help me with my nvidia driver issues?
[02:45] <stealth-> wgrant: thanks
[02:46] <wgrant> racecar56: Ot
[02:46] <wgrant> Gah.
[02:46] <wgrant> racecar56: That's a 9200. It will work just as well as the 9500, or maybe better.
[02:46] <juls4> god_: not that they've been much help but http://www.nvnews.net/ is a forum for NVIDIA drivers/hardware. They have a linux forum too.
[02:47] <wgrant> god__: Unfortunately it's a bit hard, as they are proprietary junk. juls4's suggestion is probably the best idea.
[02:47] <racecar56> wgrant, kk, cool
[02:47] <tharmor> is there a known issue today (or recently) with the gnome keychain agent dying?
[02:48] <wizared> How do you remove a .deb from the terminal
[02:49] <wgrant> wizared: dpkg -r somepackage
[02:49] <kindofabuzz> man dpkg
[02:49] <wgrant> With a 'sudo' on the front.
[02:50] <god__> thanks for the link, but it really doesnt mention where or how to find a driver for this nvidia that wont kill my comp
[02:50] <Leonardo_neo> QUIT
[02:50] <god__> does anyone know how to find why this driver is killing me?
[02:50] <wgrant> god__: Only NVIDIA is likely to know that.
[02:50] <wgrant> god__: You should ask on that forum.
[02:50] <kindofabuzz> god__, can you not use the restricted drivers?
[02:50] <god__> no
[02:50] <foooo> Nvidia and God.
[02:51]  * jtbandes read that as "god no"
[02:51] <kindofabuzz> lawl
[02:51] <wgrant> god__: Hmm, which driver are you using?
[02:51] <wizared> wgrant: That worked. Thank you
[02:51] <ubuntunoobneedin> how do you uncapture a mouse in virtual machine?
[02:51] <god__> when i attempt to, after reboot, i only get black screen
[02:51] <god__> none right now
[02:51] <kindofabuzz> is your monitor on? =)
[02:51] <wgrant> ubuntunoobneedin: It depends on which virtualisation software you are using.
[02:51] <wgrant> god__: OK, so it is the proprietary driver.
[02:51] <god__> well then whatever came with ubuntu se
[02:51] <ubuntunoobneedin> sun virtualbox
[02:51] <god__> it would have to be, but it isnt enabled
[02:52] <racecar56> ubuntunoobneedin, right ctrl
[02:52] <ubuntunoobneedin> thanks
[02:52] <wgrant> god__: Did you use the Hardware Drivers application to install the proprietary driver, then reboot, then find it to be broken?
[02:52] <racecar56> ubuntunoobneedin, i use altgr (i have old keyboard with eurosign on 5 xD)
[02:52] <god__> yes
[02:52] <god__> that is exactky what happens
[02:52] <wgrant> god__: OK, so you are using the proprietary driver.
[02:52] <god__> exactly*
[02:52] <wgrant> god__: So we can't really help you, sorry :(
[02:52] <racecar56> god__, odd as usually it works better than the official ones O_o
[02:52] <god__> im asking where i can find an open source driver
[02:53] <god__> so that i can get help
[02:53] <racecar56> god__, its builtin
[02:53] <wgrant> god__: The one installed by default is.
[02:53] <god__> well then why cant i use my 3d accelerator?
[02:53] <wgrant> So I guess you want to switch back to that one?
[02:53] <god__> I have nothing to switch back to
[02:53] <god__> i havent changed anything, and when i do change itr goes black, then i wipe my hdd and reinstall
[02:54] <wgrant> god__: Because NVIDIA do not release the necessary information to let us write one. There is an ongoing project (Nouveau) to reverse engineer the 3D capabilities.
[02:54] <god__> so, in other words. just fix the resolution and wait?
[02:54] <honeybear> hello all
[02:54] <god__> I heard that X11 works in Xubuntu. Whats that all about?
[02:54] <abama> how to install python?
[02:55] <wgrant> god__: Both Ubuntu and Xubuntu run their graphical applications within X11. What do you mean?
[02:55] <wgrant> abama: It's installed by default.
[02:55] <centHOGG> <xfce
[02:55] <abama> how to check if python is installed in ubuntu?
[02:55] <LjL> abama: apt-cache policy python
[02:55] <god__> hmm, im not sure what I mean. despite the fact that im god, im new to ubuntu
[02:55] <wgrant> abama: It is installed by default, but you can run 'python' in a terminal to see.
[02:55]  * genii slips LjL
[02:55] <bonez46> clearly we have here NOT an omniscient god.. , but a god under construction.
[02:55]  * genii slips LjL a coffee and cookie
[02:55] <honeybear> i was wondering if someone could help me with a screen resolution problem
[02:56] <god__> Hey at least im honeswt
[02:56] <god__> oh i cant spell either
[02:56] <wgrant> !ask | honeybear
[02:56] <bonez46> bug God would know all about   it. that's ok.. we can teach you
[02:56] <god__> lol
[02:56] <centHOGG> honeybear: ok
[02:56] <god__> thanks
[02:56] <god__> ummm, so then its a matter of time before i have 3d acceleration with this nvidia? is there no way I can lie to the pc and tell it has something else?
[02:57] <honeybear> i'm running ubuntu 8.1 with a GeForce FX5200 graphics card, and i'm stuck in 640x480 resolution
[02:57] <abama> File "/home/ubuntu/platform/.repo/repo/git_command.py", line 140, in __init__
[02:57] <abama>     raise GitError('%s: %s' % (command[1], e))
[02:57] <abama> error.GitError: config: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
[02:57] <god__> OH DUDE! isnt there a way to reroute my graphics processing through to my cpu?
[02:57] <honeybear> is there any way to get unstuck?
[02:57] <abama> what is lost?
[02:57] <nfrs> hi
[02:57] <centHOGG> honeybear: k... pm me
[02:57] <wgrant> god__: You should ask on that forum - they can probably help you to get it working.
[02:57] <god__> oh but that would kill processes for sure
[02:57] <brutus> nfrs, hello
[02:57] <nfrs> I want to a remove some files from a .deb package and then build it again. how can I do it?
[02:57] <xerxes_> Hi...what is generally the advantage of ubuntu over debian?
[02:58] <philh> hi guys
[02:58] <god__> what forum? where? Im entirely new at this
[02:58] <wgrant> honeybear: Try using System->Administration->Hardware Drivers to install the NVIDIA proprietary driver.
[02:58] <brutus> xerxes_, ubuntu is more newbie user friendly
[02:58] <kindofabuzz> xerxes_, mainly just more bleeding edge packages, and cosmetic things
[02:58] <wgrant> god__: http://www.nvnews.net/
[02:58] <philh> any of you know how to enabled SBA and fastwrite for nvidia drivers?
[02:58] <god__> LIES ubuntu hates me!
[02:58] <god__> thanks for the link btw
[02:58] <xerxes_> oki
[02:58] <fearful> crdlb, there is no section 'Virtual'
[02:58] <wgrant> xerxes_: A better out-of-the-box experience, more frequent releases, more up-to-date packages.
[02:59] <philh> i've tried a guide on the forum but to no avail
[02:59] <pape> salut
[02:59] <juls4> wgrant: Would you know why in nvidia control panel my monitor is CRT-0 on GPU-0 ... does that mean NVIDIA is seeing it as a CRT and not a LCD?
[02:59] <crdlb> fearful: it would be a line in Section "Screen"
[03:00] <fearful> crdlb, http://paste.ubuntu.com/155669/
[03:00] <pape> i
[03:00] <bootio> how would i test 3d acceleration is working right?
[03:00] <fearful> crdlb, thats my xorg.conf
[03:00] <wgrant> juls4: I don't know - it might just be what it calls a VGA port.
[03:00] <abama> http://paste.ubuntu.com/155670/
[03:00] <god__> how can i be the only in the world whos computer gets crashed by a proprietary driver?
[03:00] <wgrant> bootio: You could run 'glxgears' and see if it doesn't eat too much of your CPU.
[03:00] <pape> vous parlez français
[03:00] <wgrant> god__: You aren't - proprietary drivers cause no end of problems, which is part of why they're such a bad idea.
[03:00] <racecar56> glxgears makes my laptop beep
[03:00] <bootio> wgrant: i ran glxgears and it gave 850fps
[03:01] <wgrant> bootio: You have 3D acceleration.
[03:01] <racecar56> O_O
[03:01] <juls4> NVIDA is so dodgy on ubuntu. I think i have to go back to windows O_0
[03:01] <god__> well there have to be other people in the world who have 3d accelration in ubuntu thats processed by nvidia drivers.
[03:01] <wgrant> juls4: Please, complain to NVIDIA. Let them know you want better.
[03:01] <bootio> wgrant: ooohhh ok so the 8,000+ scores are just for good graphics cards i take it?
[03:01] <philh> juls4, what's the trouble?
[03:01] <wgrant> god__: There are.
[03:01] <philh> bootio, what's your graphics card?
[03:01] <god__> I was going to go back to windows, but xp had more driver problems with my model than linux
[03:01] <wgrant> bootio: If you have an Intel graphics card, 850fps is reasonable.
[03:02] <god__> how can i find out how they got thier machines to work?
[03:02] <god__> google isnt very helpful
[03:02] <crdlb> fearful: did you restart X after restoring that xorg.conf from backup?
[03:02] <abama> who can tell me what file is lost?
[03:02] <kindofabuzz> that's blaspemy!
[03:02] <wgrant> god__: Try that forum. They'll know better than probably anyone here.
[03:02] <abama> http://paste.ubuntu.com/155670/
[03:02] <bootio> philh: Intel® GM45 + ICH9-M
[03:02] <wgrant> bootio: That's about right, then.
[03:03] <fearful> restarted X and restarted computer multiple times now since it happened.
[03:03] <god__> the forum is just telling me i need aditional plugins
[03:03] <wgrant> abama: Python's working fine - it's the software that you are trying to run that has a problem. You should ask its author.
[03:03] <bootio> wgrant: sweet-
[03:03] <philh> so, no one knows how to enable fastwrites?
[03:03] <racecar56> fastwrites?
[03:04] <philh> for agp nvidia cards
[03:04] <racecar56> i dont even know what that is :/
[03:05] <juls4> philh: NVIDIA doesn't detect the full resolution of my monitor, so everything is stretched horizontally. I've tried to use xradr to create a new modeline/resolution but it fails. Although that's not the worst of it - whenever I boot into ubuntu, it's like my desktop has 'zoomed' in, and I have to move my mouse to the corners of the screen for it to pann to the menu. Then I end up having to chose the same resolution, which fixes the issue and rescales it back into
[03:05] <racecar56> *xrandr
[03:05] <fearful> crdlb, restarted X and restarted computer multiple times now since it happened.
[03:06] <fumanchu182> I have the x86_64 alpha flash plugin installed, video plays well, but i can't get any audio, i know which device to use but am unfamiliar with the audio backend in linux, how would i force the flash plugin to use hw=1,3 (specific device which is hdmi audio over an ati card)
[03:06] <riley3> hello
[03:06] <_chun> Anyone know how I can turn my laptop's function (Fn) key into a toggle?
[03:06] <riley3> I am new to this
[03:06] <juls4> racecar56: thanks for the typo correcting service... O_0
[03:06] <philh> juls4, and you've tried changing the resolution using nvidia-settings?
[03:06] <racecar56> kk
[03:07] <juls4> philh: you're talking about the NVIDIA X server settings in system/admin?
[03:07] <riley3> I would like to use pan but have no clue how . Can some one help me?
[03:07] <juls4> philh: then yes.
[03:07] <bootio> i'm wondering if my dial-up modem works in ubuntu- how would i test that? if i recall correctly ubuntu 8.10 supports modems through a gui, no?
[03:07] <PlaHPoy> anyone know if its possible to change the ip address of a VM (kvm) remotely
[03:07] <philh> when i got this new panel i had all manner of trouble until i just let nvidia-settings create a fresh xorg.conf for me
[03:07] <bootio> or is that 9.0.4 that is coming out that is supposed to support modems?
[03:08] <PlaHPoy> i put it in my colo, but forgot to change the vm ip address away from 192.168....
[03:08] <god__> how do you get to nvidia settings?
[03:09] <philh> bootio, when i last looked they seemed to have left out the parts of the gui for modem dialup from 8.10, they did have wireless broadband dongle support though
[03:09] <juls4> philh: NVIDIA seems to be the problem in this situation, not a saviour. I've tried writing the settings to the xorg.conf file.
[03:09] <philh> juls4, have you tried backing up your old xorg.conf and writing a fresh one instead of merging?
[03:09] <riley3> anyone use pan?
[03:10] <^Phantom^> okay
[03:10] <iceroot> riley3: i guess someone here is using it
[03:10] <juls4> philh: How do I do that?
[03:10] <Mike_lifeguard> If I want to connect to a VPN, can I use something like openvpn, or do I really need to download the software my university is telling me to?
[03:10] <juls4> philh: write a new one, that is.
[03:10] <^Phantom^> here's the deal
[03:10] <riley3> hi Iceroot
[03:11] <philh> i think you get presented with the option in nvidia-settings when you try to save
[03:11] <^Phantom^> i want to get a copy of ubuntu that will FULLY work
[03:11] <iceroot> Mike_lifeguard: use the cisco version of the client, most unis are using cisco and others dont work
[03:11] <n2diy>  bootio, modems have been supported for years. Your modem settings should be in one of the network menus.
[03:11] <god__> good luck
[03:11] <^Phantom^> what version should get?
[03:11] <fearful> crdlb, any suggestions
[03:12] <iceroot> phantomcircuit: depending on what you want, new software or long term support
[03:12] <juls4> philh: okay, I just tried to create a new one with NVIDIA: "Unable to create new X config backup file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'"
[03:12] <jascase901> #python
[03:12] <crdlb> fearful: what does 'glxinfo | grep renderer' say?
[03:12] <iceroot> ^Phantom^: : depending on what you want, new software or long term support
[03:12] <Mike_lifeguard> iceroot: thanks, that was the other package I was looking at
[03:12] <iceroot> phantomcircuit: sorry, wrong nick
[03:12] <jascase901> Whats the source code behind the eval function?
[03:13] <^Phantom^> and also: I DON'T WANT A VERSION THAT'S GONNA SPIT "NON COMPATIBLE COMPUTER" ERRORS EVERY TIME I TRY TO INSTALL SOMETHING
[03:13] <^Phantom^> sorry, caps
[03:13] <^Phantom^> i'm frustrated ._.
[03:13] <philh> juls4, you need to use sudo before it'll be able to write to /etc directly, or you can have it write to a file in your home directory and copy it across with sudo afterwards
[03:13] <fearful> crdlb, OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945GM 20061102 x86/MMX/SSE2
[03:13] <crdlb> jascase901: you're not actually in #python :)
[03:13] <wgrant> ^Phantom^: What do you mean about those errors? What gave you them?
[03:13] <iceroot> ^Phantom^: post your errors here so that someone can help you
[03:13] <jascase901> o LOl
[03:13] <jascase901> im sorry
[03:13] <crdlb> fearful: run 'compiz --replace &' in a terminal and pastebin the output
[03:14] <^Phantom^> oh, i currently have a horribly outdated version
[03:14] <riley3> see that is why I have no clue what to do everYTIME I LOAD SOMETHING UP I GET PROBLEMS AND ERROR MESSAGES
[03:14] <crdlb> jascase901: and you'll need to register/identify before you can
[03:14] <^Phantom^> version 7.10 hardy
[03:14] <iceroot> ^Phantom^: hardy is 8.04
[03:14] <jascase901> crdlb: Ya i did all that, i just forgot to click on the right chat lol
[03:14] <mawar> com
[03:14] <^Phantom^> well, 7.10 is what i have
[03:14] <^Phantom^> and frankly it sucks D:
[03:15] <juls4> philh: I can't save it anywhere but in the location it specifies.
[03:15] <iceroot> ^Phantom^: then use a newer version 8.04 lts, 8.10 current release or in ne day 9.04
[03:15] <tritium> ^Phantom^: likely due for the most part to your hardware
[03:15] <^Phantom^> i'd prefer one with long term support
[03:15] <iceroot> ^Phantom^: ubuntu hardy 8.04.2
[03:15] <fumanchu182> is there a freenode channel for flash player support?
[03:16] <racecar56> doubt it
[03:16] <philh> juls4, are you sure? are you looking at X server display configuration?
[03:16] <wgrant> fumanchu182: Unlikely - only Adobe can support it.
[03:16] <iceroot> fumanchu182: not for the software of course
[03:16] <fumanchu182> i think i know why it won't play over hdmi audio just have to get my idea to a dev
[03:16] <iceroot> fumanchu182: just for flash-programming
[03:16] <fumanchu182> it seems to use only the default hw=0,1 device
[03:16] <fumanchu182> no way to tell it to use your hdmi device at hw=1,3 (if it is enabled for you and you have a hdmi video card)
[03:17] <fearful> crdlb, http://paste.ubuntu.com/155675/
[03:17] <philh> juls4, there's a save to X configuration file button at the bottom of that section, clicking that will give you the option to save to another location and merge with the existing xorg or not
[03:17] <god__> if i do glxinfo i get this, "client glx vendor string: SGI" if thats not my nvidia driver, what is it?
[03:17]  * Xcell hi
[03:17] <wgrant> god__: That'll be Mesa, the software renderer.
[03:18]  * Xcell oi
[03:18] <JohnGalt> Anyone use Xdmx?
[03:18] <^Phantom^> also, how can i remove the ubuntu entries from the grub menu on my primary hdd?
[03:18] <crdlb> fearful: ah, you enabled metacity's stpuid broken compositing manager :/
[03:18] <god__> hmm
[03:18] <fearful> crdlb, and how did I manage to do that?
[03:18] <wgrant> ^Phantom^: Remove the from /boot/grub/menu.lst on whichever distro GRUB is installed from.
[03:18] <iceroot> ^Phantom^:edit the grub-file    sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:18] <n2diy> god_ is stumped!?
[03:19] <^Phantom^> so that i can boot directly to one of the partitions on my primary, WITHOUT having to have the external hard drive plugged in to do so
[03:19] <pace_t_zulu> has anyone notice that when you change screen resolutions, panel objects and applets can get disorganized and out of order
[03:19] <crdlb> fearful: run    gconf-editor /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager    and disable that
[03:19] <pace_t_zulu> ?
[03:19] <fumanchu182> but then again adobe says it only supports alsa so if the hdmi port is not running on alsa you get screwed
[03:19] <Xcell> ye-ha
[03:19] <juls4> philh: No, that's just asking you to point it to the location of your xorg.conf file.. I tried to create a new empty file on the desktop named xorg.conf but it won't write to it.
[03:20] <^Phantom^> can you help me with doing that please?
[03:20] <fearful> crdlb, done, restart x or something?
[03:20] <crdlb> fearful: just enable compiz
[03:20] <philh> juls4, ok, try the show preview button and just copy and paste the new xorg config
[03:21] <fearful> crdlb, can I have the command?
[03:21] <arthursena> good night galera
[03:21] <pace_t_zulu>  has anyone noticed that when you change screen resolutions, panel objects and applets can get disorganized and out of order?
[03:21] <crdlb> fearful: sys > prefs > appearance > visual effects
[03:21] <fearful> crdlb, oh alright, sweet works like a charm thanks so much!
[03:22] <manpoole> i have a problem with a script in conky can some one take a look
[03:23] <^Phantom^> [20:18] <wgrant> ^Phantom^: Remove the from /boot/grub/menu.lst on whichever distro GRUB is installed from.  <-If only i knew how to work grub...
[03:23] <god__> is there a way to tell the software gfx renderer to do 3d?
[03:24] <jelly-bean> does anyone have NetworkManager working in 8.10?
[03:24] <wgrant> jelly-bean: It's installed by default, so yes.
[03:24] <juls4> philh: I've got 2 xorg.conf in my x11 directory. One named xorg.conf and the other xorg.conf.20090420200128
[03:24] <wgrant> god__: Remove the proprietary driver, and it will use the software renderer.
[03:24] <JackWat> NetworkManager wasn't working?
[03:25] <wgrant> juls4: The latter is a backup from that timestamp.
[03:25] <god__> but its already using it, that sci or whatever
[03:25] <^Phantom^> can someone please  help me do that???
[03:25] <jelly-bean> wgrant: ya but does it work? i've installed on two dif. machines and while networkmanager comes installed by default, it doesn't work by default. the eth0 does not appear in the left-click menu to enable.
[03:25] <juls4> ah i see...
[03:25] <philh> juls4, copy the current version to xorg.conf.bak and replace with the freshly generated output from nvidia-settings
[03:25] <rocky_> I recently moved my windows xp and ubuntu 8.10 partitions over to a new harddrive, and set up grub.  the problem is that while I can boot Ubuntu, it seems as though grub can't find the windows boot file :(
[03:25] <rocky_> can anybody help?
[03:25] <dragonbyte> why is mysql defaulting to latin1_swedish and how do I change that?
[03:25] <ubuntu> Hello
[03:25] <kindofabuzz> jelly-bean, just a recommendation, you'll have better luck with wicd instead of NM with 8.10
[03:25] <ubuntu> I need serious HELP!!
[03:25] <philh> juls4, you are capable of copying your xorg.conf.bak back in the event that x fails to start, right?
[03:26] <arthursena> ihuu
[03:26] <^Phantom^> how the flip do i manage grub????
[03:26] <rocky_> ubuntu: ask the question, don't ask for help :)
[03:26] <^Phantom^> i don't even know where to start!!!!!!
[03:26] <crdlb> jelly-bean: did you right click -> enable networking?
[03:26] <^Phantom^> i want to do a grub on the external hdd as well
[03:26] <ubuntu> When I try to install it wants to install on whole disk can anybody teach me how to make my own partion in advanced mode?????????/
[03:26] <JohnGalt> Anyone know anything about Xdmx?
[03:26] <centHOGG> ^Phantom^: gimme 10 minutes... helping someone
[03:26] <ubuntu> Please
[03:26] <jelly-bean> crdlb: yes but then on left click it says "Wired Network device is unmanaged"
[03:26] <racecar56> ubuntu manual
[03:26] <kindofabuzz> ^Phantom^, what do you need to do?
[03:27] <JackWat> jelly-bean
[03:27] <^Phantom^> so i'll have a grub on both drives
[03:27] <ubuntu> It does this to me all the time and i never get to install ubuntu
[03:27] <ubuntu> why does it never work?@@?
[03:27] <rocky_> lol
[03:27] <^Phantom^> one i can boot the primary drive's partitions with, on the primary drive
[03:27] <rocky_> Try "manual"
[03:27] <jelly-bean> JackWat: ?
[03:27] <ubuntu> I dont know how to use manual
[03:27] <JackWat> ubuntu: there is an option to use free space on drive
[03:27] <rocky_> you should be able to make an ext3 partition and install to that!
[03:27] <^Phantom^> and one separate grub on the external, for booting the partitions on that one, when i choose to boot from it
[03:27] <ticos> Can I install ubuntu on an external hd and run it using my intel mac?
[03:27] <^Phantom^> is that possible?
[03:27] <ubuntu> JackWat yes
[03:27] <kindofabuzz> ^Phantom^, you want grub to point to another grub?
[03:28] <^Phantom^> NO
[03:28] <rocky_> but now, does anybody know how to make grub see the windows boot file?
[03:28] <JackWat> jelly-bean: there is a command. let me find it
[03:28] <JackWat> windows boot file?
[03:28] <rocky_> idk
[03:28] <juls4> what's the command to get a root permission window in terminal? or am I imagining such a thing?
[03:28] <rocky_> Windows is in the list at grub
[03:28] <JackWat> you want grub to boot into windows?
[03:28] <ubuntu> I only have two option to install it across the whole disk or Manual
[03:28] <rocky_> but it can't boot :(
[03:28] <JackWat> juls4: sudo
[03:28] <JackWat> or su
[03:28] <ubuntu> I been wanting to installl ubuntu for a month but I can get it to work
[03:28] <^Phantom^> I want to remove ubuntu from the current grub, which resides on my internal drive
[03:29] <ubuntu> What is the easiest way to install ubuntu manual, what do i have to create to make it work???
[03:29] <kindofabuzz> !grub > ^Phantom^
[03:29] <^Phantom^> then, when i install the 8.04 ubuntu to the external, give the external hard drive IT'S own grub, so it can be used when i choose to boot from that drive
[03:29] <ubuntu> Do I have to make a swap
[03:29] <rocky_> JackWat: do you know what to do?
[03:29] <ubuntu> Do i have to make a swap
[03:29] <rocky_> ubutnu: not neccesary
[03:29] <rocky_> and don't ask the same question in rapid succession
[03:30] <ubuntu> So I can just make on partion any size and install it across and it wont damage windows rocky_
[03:30] <rocky_> ;)
[03:30] <kindofabuzz> ^Phantom^, so yeah, you can just have the main grub point to another grub, simple
[03:30] <pc> rocky_: what happens?
[03:30] <jelly-bean> JackWat: thank you! i am hoping it is as simple as that.
[03:30] <JackWat|Laptop> rocky_: you can restore the winodws MBR but it will wipe your boot record for ubuntu