[12:10] <Ben64> NSA-Bot: just stop, nobody cares and its offtopic here
[12:10] <shirtlifter>  /join ##hardware
[12:11] <shirtlifter> opps
[12:11] <contrapunctus> ^Beauty.
[12:11] <shirtlifter> lifted me shirt up to high on that one
[12:11] <shirtlifter> pmsl
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> bambanda: not used cygwin. powershell just gives an easy way to access systems, its like bash and ssh in some ways
[12:16] <ofhs> is there any way to get a USB microphone to work if there's no linux drivers for it?
[12:16] <Guest56915> !list
[12:19] <liquidmetal> is there a way to compile a header and just 'resolve' all macros?
[12:19] <acerimmer> !nick
[12:19] <cfhowlett> !register
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> liquidmetal: try in #linux too
[12:28] <serenoa> having problems with unity dash, taking ~30-45seconds to open, suspect due to specific lens, any way i can disable individual lenses without uninstalling app itself? [can't find active 'lens toggle' repo anywhere]
[12:29] <cfhowlett> ofhs, professional recording?  Get an interface.  The presonus one box reads linux/ubuntu with no problem.  Also, a usb mic is likely pretty low end on the sound spectrum.  The Presonus 1 Box is a recording kit with interface, OK headphones and decent entry-level mic.
[12:31] <gordonjcp> cfhowlett: I think ofhs probably pinged out before seeing that, oh well
[12:32] <gordonjcp> cfhowlett: one of the big problems is that stuff just says "Mac and Windows Compatible" on the box, but doesn't mention Linux
[12:32] <gordonjcp> if it's class-compliant, it'll work
[12:32] <gordonjcp> also, MOTU are evil
[12:32] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp, indeed.  I did a youtube tutorial and mentioned that point.  We can only hope that one day OEM's get a linux clue.
[12:33] <FlowRiser> Hey guys, i have a small question: Where is the best place to ask for screenlets dev advice ?
[12:33] <rizz__> Hello. I noticed that 'dhclient' is listening for connections on my machine. Can I remove it or is it vital to the system? My router handles DHCP for me, but maybe I need the software anyway?
[12:35] <ofhs> Can someone help with some mic driver problems?
[12:35] <serenoa> pretty sure this dodgy lens was installed by everpad, despite disabling 'search on the home lens' results are still appearing, can i disable/toggle the lens without removing the whole program? thanks
[12:35] <bekks> rizz__: without dhclient, you wont get a DHCP IP.
[12:37] <rizz__> bekks: ok thanks i'll keep it enabled then. does it need to listen for connections or can I firewall it on my machine? i dont like open ports
[12:37] <bekks> rizz__: You need it to be open - otherwise you wont get a DHCP IP.
[12:37] <milaki> How can I get a xorg.conf file that corresponds to the configuration of X when its run without one?
[12:37] <milaki> X -configure does not produce this xorg.conf
[12:38] <bonhoeffer> does ubuntu read hfs+ easily?
[12:38] <auronandace> !hfs | bonhoeffer
[12:38] <gordonjcp> bonhoeffer: yes
[12:38] <FlowRiser> !screenlets
[12:38] <bonhoeffer> thanks
[12:39] <serenoa> seems the only way to fix this is with python-lenstoggler but the repo is down
[12:39] <bekks> serenoa: Just uninstall the lenses you dont like.
[12:40] <serenoa> bekks: how do i do that without removing everpad itself?
[12:40] <bekks> serenoa: everpad?
[12:40] <bekks> serenoa: I thought you were talking about unity.
[12:40] <serenoa> the app that installed the lens
[12:41] <gordonjcp> rizz__: leave dhclient alone, unless you like all manner of weird network problems
[12:41] <bipul> Hello My Audio input of mic is not working, I can't able to record my own voice via mic.
[12:42] <gordonjcp> rizz__: also, forget about "open ports", if you're behind a NAT router
[12:42] <gordonjcp> rizz__: they don't matter
[12:42] <serenoa> bekks: i thought you couldn't uninstall or disable individual unity lenses without lens toggler
[12:43] <serenoa> bekks: is that true?
[12:43] <rizz__> gordonjcp: thats true with the NAT firewall, but when I'm at school? but i guess the dhclient aren't very likely to be exploitable?
[12:43] <gordonjcp> rizz__: none of it is
[12:43] <rizz__> okey great, thank you both
[12:43] <gordonjcp> rizz__: when you're at school, how do you plan to get a network connection?
[12:44] <bekks> serenoa: Uninstall the lenses you dont want. And everpad doesnt even have a lens as dependency, I just checked that.
[12:44] <rizz__> gordonjcp: ye thats true
[12:44] <serenoa> bekks: how do you uninstall lenses?
[12:45] <bekks> serenoa: sudo dpkg -l unity-lens*   and then just uninstall the package you dont want.
[12:45] <bipul> Hello I am using Ubuntu12.04, and i have a problem with Mic, as my Audio input is not working at all, i can not able to record my voice through mic, when ever i am trying to run Desktop recoder, i am not getting any settings to fixe my Audio input. Please help.
[12:45] <cfhowlett> !patience|bipul,
[12:45] <serenoa> bekks: oh okay thanks
[12:47] <nnrr> i set very brightness using setpci. it works fine while on ac power. but on battery, brightness keeps resetting. any idea how to prevent it?
[12:48] <bekks> serenoa: everpad is painfully slow. Just use the website login, which is more fast and more convinient.
[12:48] <bekks> serenoa: And in everpad, go into the settings and disable "search on the home lens".
[12:49] <serenoa> bekks: i disabled that already, however it's still being included in search results, and i can't see the lens package listed like you said
[12:49] <nnrr> i set very low brightness using setpci. it works fine while on ac power. but on battery, brightness keeps resetting. any idea how to prevent it?
[12:50] <bekks> serenoa: Because the "home lens" basically is just "search in your home folder".
[12:52] <serenoa> bekks: so since the package isn't listed, how do i uninstall it?
[12:52] <bekks> serenoa: You cant uninstall the functionality to search in your home folder.
[12:52] <djono> is there a learning curve coming from fedora to ubuntu ??
[12:52] <bekks> djono: Sure.
[12:53] <cfhowlett> djono, of course.  just like any change ...
[12:53] <djono> is it really big??
[12:53] <serenoa> bekks: all i want to disable is everpad results in unity search
[12:53] <cfhowlett> djono, no it's exacly 3.14 inches
[12:53] <serenoa> bekks: are you saying that can't be done without removing everpad?
[12:53] <cfhowlett> djono, "big" "small" are subjective terms.
[12:54] <djono> well seems like ubuntu and its variants are becoming increasingly popular even new distros would be based on them. Fedora to me is waning in popularity and support
[12:55] <bekks> serenoa: I say: It cant be done without removing unity.
[12:56] <djono> are they pretty much the same?
[12:57] <bekks> djono: Fedora is RHEL based, Ubuntu is debian-based. Pretty much everything in terms of configuration is different.
[12:57] <auronandace> djono: if you use the same desktop environment as on fedora then you'll not notice much of a difference at all
[12:58] <serenoa> bekks: right that's what i thought, the only other solution seemed to be python-lenstoggler if the repo was active
[12:58] <serenoa> bekks: thanks anyway
[12:58] <bekks> serenoa: the "home lens" isnt a separate lens. Its a basic functionality of Unity. You cant toggle it.
[12:58] <djono> Everytime i go to a website for some programs. IF they have a linux section its always debian ubumtu or seldom fedora. also are all DE available for every distro?
[12:59] <serenoa> bekks: i don't know what home lens is, all i know is it takes almost a minute to open the unity search panel, probably because it's looking through my whole everpad index
[12:59] <serenoa> bekks: i just want to toggle everpad search results in the hope it will fix that lag
[12:59] <auronandace> djono: in any distro you use you really ought to stick to the default  repos rather than install things from websites
[12:59] <cfhowlett> djono, let's say most.  I don't even know what "all" the DE's are.
[13:00] <cfhowlett> djono, auronandace is spot on.  Installing stuff from random sites is the linux equivalent of unprotected sex.
[13:01] <acovrig> I want to use python with apache but need to be able to run a specific file as root, the closest thing I came up with is visudo ->NOPASSWD:<path to python file> and having PHP do a shell_exec(sudo <path to file>) is there a better way of doing this?
[13:01] <djono> so lets say the say site doesn't have a certain distro listed. there could possibly be a version in the non listed distros repo?
[13:02] <auronandace> djono: you should check the repos first before you look at any site
[13:02] <cfhowlett> djono, possibly.  or compile from source.
[13:02] <DJones> djono: If you can't find an application you need in the repo's, you can look at ppa's or as a last resort compile from source
[13:02] <auronandace> djono: anything you install from outside the repos will get no support here
[13:03] <djono> buddy of mine uses ubuntu and he has lxde. his wife uses for the gui cause she is not as technical as him and he prefers lxde. I rhought that was cool cause it seems like its fresh always
[13:06] <djono> is unity available on fedora? sorry for asking in ubuntu
[13:07] <auronandace> djono: ask in fedora
[13:07] <cfhowlett> djono, ask fedora
[13:08] <djono> see thats what i mean. the ubuntu community is bigger hehe. didnt know there is a fedora channel
[13:08] <cfhowlett> djono, #fedora if I'm not mistaken
[13:10] <djono> i have to register a nick for that channel. u know because of that im hittin the install ubuntu button now
[13:11] <nuk3> hi.
[13:11] <nuk3> Guys. How's the Closed Amd driver lately under linux? Can I use hybrid crossfire?
[13:11] <nuk3> dual graphics
[13:14] <dotcom> Hello there. I recently downloaded a scanned pdf about 10 MB long and opened it with Document Viewer in Ubuntu. It's taking long to load that file. The loading icon rotates for about 10 seconds when i jump to next page.
[13:15] <dotcom> Is there any other reader that can load scanned pdf files much faster?
[13:15] <cfhowlett> dotcom, is this the only time you experience lag issues?
[13:15] <cfhowlett> dotcom, you can get adobe reader from adobe
[13:15] <Guest77455> test
[13:16] <cfhowlett> Guest77455, we see you
[13:16] <Guest77455> where are ?
[13:16] <Guest77455> quit
[13:17] <dotcom> cfhowlett: No. On all other normal text pdfs "Document Viewer" works well. But on scanned pdfs it lags. I downloaded Adobe reader too, but problem still persists.
[13:18] <Guest3373> hello im trying to launch minecraft sp and when it loads it shows the black screen
[13:18] <linuxNooob> what is wrong with m fresh ubuntu 12.04 LTS install if on boot up (under ubuntu logo) is coming text waiting /tmp or its not found...something like that. i can skip it but it comes often
[13:18] <cfhowlett> dotcom, so it's not specific to reader.  and it's only SCANNED pdf's?  over my head to solve, but I suspect soeone knows.
[13:19] <cfhowlett> linuxNooob, no specific message, no specific help.  take notes next time you boot and ask again with actual details.
[13:20] <linuxNooob> ok i come back when i have exact message
[13:20] <linuxNooob> thank you
[13:20] <adamk_> Generally scanned PDFs contain no text, each page is just one large embedded image.  It's not surprising that would take longer to open than a page with text...
[13:20] <Guest3373> hello
[13:20] <cfhowlett> Guest3373, greetings
[13:21] <cfhowlett> adamk_, yeah, but he stated the image size only 10 mb.  seems a bit small to be causing lag ...
[13:21] <Guest3373> im trying to launch minecraft and when it starts up it shows a black screen
[13:21] <cfhowlett> !patience|Guest3373,
[13:22] <Guest3373> i ment when i launch it it starts loading and it shows a blank black screen
[13:23] <adamk_> cfhowlett: The file size doesn't really matter much.  The resolution of the images is going to be the issue.
[13:23] <alexlexer> ..hellow
[13:25] <cfhowlett> adamk_, I assumed ram and gpu would be the limiting factors...
[13:25] <cfhowlett> alexlexer, greetings
[13:26] <dotcom> cfhowlett: Very likely. I was thinking that is there any tweak or something that "Document Viewer" uses more computer resources for some time for time.
[13:26] <dotcom> adamk_: Yes. The resolutions of images is high in that pdf file.
[13:27] <dotcom> And my computer specs are also quite low
[13:27]  * cfhowlett quotes South Park: I learned something today!
[13:27] <adamk_> I'd guess the RAM has more bearing than the GPU. It's probably just trying to load those images into memory...
[13:33] <dotcom> I have 2 Ghz processor and 2 GB ram. Is it enough?
[13:34] <dotcom> I have noticed that my computer is also running somwhat slow in summer.
[13:34] <adamk_> Can you send the PDF to someone with a faster computer and see if they have the same problem?
[13:35] <cfhowlett> dotcom, it's enough to run ubuntu.  more demanding tasks (graphics) put additional load on the system.  But only 2 gigs of ram?  and ram is the EASIEST component to upgrade.  Do your research
[13:36] <cfhowlett> dotcom, alternatively, consider a lighter weight option: xubuntu and lubunt are optimized for lower/older spec machines.  I've got ubuntustudio, i.e xubuntu + goodies on my 2009 laptop.  I've experienced no noticeable issues
[13:36] <islandmonkey> Hello, I was doing some (failed) MIDI recording earlier through JACK. Unfortunately, it now seems that Ubuntu only wants to run audio through JACK, as playing an audio file through Audacity with ALSA being used results in silence. How can I get Ubuntu back to using ALSA for audio?
[13:38] <cfhowlett> islandmonkey, nice one!  if no response here, ask in #ubuntustudio ... we get jack headaches ALL the time.
[13:38] <raven_> hi
[13:38] <raven_> my rme digi9652 is locked by anything on every startup - how to unlock it to use it with jack
[13:39] <islandmonkey> OK sure - I'll go to #ubuntustudio
[13:41] <dotcom> ty
[13:41] <jeevanus> hai, im using MTS USB modem, I have made all essential configurations in Mobile Broadband, it connected few hours ago, but not connecting now. It is working in a windows systesm, frm which im chatting, can some one help me?
[13:44] <jeevanus> hai, im using MTS USB modem, I have made all essential configurations in Mobile Broadband, it connected few hours ago, but not connecting now. It is working in a windows system, frm which im chatting, can some one help me?
[13:44] <cfhowlett> !patience|jeevanus,
[13:45] <PeterGriffin> Does anybody know a decent IRC server/room for hardware (laptop) problems?
[13:45] <auronandace> PeterGriffin: try ##hardware
[13:46] <raven_> how to get wget to search only recursively on LOWER dirs?
[13:48] <raven_> my rme digi9652 is locked by anything on every startup - how to unlock it to use it with jack
[13:49] <colbabomb> hello, i have lubuntu, with GNOME, LXDE, Unity, Cinnamon DE's how do i get the zorin-os look on my machine without installing zorin-os over lubuntu, just want as a seperate DE
[13:50] <auronandace> colbabomb: it isn't supported here
[13:51] <colbabomb> auronandace: so there is a seperate lubuntu channel
[13:51] <nakanut> Which is the best tablet on the market Samsung/Nexus/Asus??
[13:52] <auronandace> colbabomb: yes but zorin isn't supported there either
[13:52] <k1l_> nakanut: that is a topic for the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[13:52] <colbabomb> i just want the look not the os, like a installable deb package
[13:53] <auronandace> colbabomb: if it isn't in the repo then it isn't supported here, it really is that simple
[13:53] <bipul> Hello I am using Ubuntu12.04, and i have a problem with Mic, as my Audio input is not working at all, i can not able to record my voice through mic, when ever i am trying to run Desktop recoder, i am not getting any settings to fixe my Audio input. Please help.
[13:54] <foobArrr> I'm lost in ccsm. where do I find the setting for what a double click on the title bar does?
[13:54] <colbabomb> alright i'll try to find in the repos, if not i'm going to zorin-os next version or remove windows and dual-boot with Lubuntu
[13:56] <foobArrr> never mind
[13:57] <Kai_p_IE> i seem to keep geting the on screen keyboard as i wake the pc to unlock from screensaver i am running ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[13:59] <adamk_> foobArrr: It's not in ccsm.
[14:00] <mc__> Salut
[14:00] <adamk_> foobArrr: Unfortunately, I don't remember exactly where it is.. In the days of emerald, it was in emerald-theme-manager.
[14:01] <cfhowlett> !it|mc__,
[14:02] <joanna> hallo?
[14:02] <Kai_p_IE> i seem to keep geting the on screen keyboard as i wake the pc to unlock from screensaver (have no need for it!) i am running ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[14:02] <Kai_p_IE> joanna sup?
[14:03] <cfhowlett> joanna, greetings
[14:03] <joanna> hi why my ubunt can`t upgrade to new version? got10.10 alredy
[14:04] <cfhowlett> joanna, 10.10 is dead.  end of life.  not supported.  download the new ubuntu with torrent, make a usb/cdrom, boot and install
[14:04] <islandmonkey> joanna: Because 10.10 is WAY out of date.
[14:04] <cfhowlett> !eol|joanna,
[14:05] <joanna> is new version i worth install?
[14:05] <cfhowlett> joanna, are you comfortable running and unsupported version?
[14:05] <jrib> joanna: well 10.10 should not be used.  It's not supported anymore
[14:06] <joanna> ok thanks but can anyone tell  me is new ubuntu good?
[14:06] <jrib> joanna: you should try it for yourself, your opinion is the one that matters.  There are lots of people using supported ubuntu versions...
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> joanna  if you like it, then it is good
[14:07] <joanna> thanks...how to install new version? sorry im new here...
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> joanna: a clean install will get you to the newer, supported releases sooner and easier. You can restore userdata from backup
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> joanna: same as the install of Maverick you did
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> joanna  download the iso, use unetbootin to create the live usb, restart from usb and off you go!
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> joanna: i recommend 12.04 as it is LTS so supported til April 2017
[14:10] <joanna> thanks a lot for advise
[14:10] <Kai_p_IE> i seem to keep geting the on screen keyboard as i wake the pc to unlock from screensaver (have no need for it!) i am running ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[14:10] <foobArrr> adamk_: k, thank you
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> kai_p_ie: do you have onboard or gok installed etc?
[14:12] <jxd> hello
[14:12] <Kai_p_IE> ActionParsnip, onboard
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> kai_p_ie: remove it if you dont need it, and it doesnt remove other crucial packages
[14:13] <Kai_p_IE> ActionParsnip, thank you sir
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> kai_pie: if you dont need it, get rid
[14:15] <novikH> a
[14:15] <novikH> a
[14:15] <novikH> a
[14:15] <FloodBot1> novikH: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:16] <Kai_p_IE> wow whats up with FloodBot1 that was quick
[14:17] <novikH> Kai_p_IE: I was showing some kids how does it work..:)
[14:17] <linuxthefish> help, i just did a fresh install of ubuntu 13.04 and hibernate does not work!
[14:17] <linuxthefish> pm-hibernate commanf
[14:17] <linuxthefish> command*
[14:17] <Kai_p_IE> novikH, read my PM
[14:18] <sam113101> do you have swap?
[14:18] <linuxthefish> i think so
[14:19] <vasil4> Is there a way to boot from a CD to an Ubuntu on the HD?
[14:19] <k1l_> linuxthefish: hibernation and standby depend on the hardware and the drivers /modules used. so get the logs (dmesg and syslog) and look out what is going wrong there
[14:20] <raven_> vasil4, "chroot" - yes
[14:20] <kikkelikalle> HALUAN PILLUA
[14:20] <kikkelikalle> PILLUA NYT!
[14:21] <linuxthefish> but hibernate worked before clean install :S
[14:21] <zykotick9> vasil4: boot the cd then chroot to the HD install is probably closes you'd get... not quite the same as a "boot" though...  good luck.
[14:21] <kikkelikalle> TAI TULEN HYVIN HYVIN VIHAISEKSI
[14:21] <vasil4> raven_, ty
[14:21] <kikkelikalle> PILLUA HETI!!!!
[14:23] <zykotick9> vasil4: if you use encrypted HD, i have no idea...
[14:29] <vasil4> Is there a way to load the entire OS to ram and run it from there?
[14:30] <gordonjcp> vasil4: that's effectively what booting the USB stick does
[14:30] <gordonjcp> a whole bunch of important stuff is loaded to RAM
[14:30] <vasil4> gordonjcp, but can I unplug it and still use the pc?
[14:31] <overdub> no, running off a USB stick runs off the USB stick, there is a way to run completely from RAM
[14:31] <gordonjcp> vasil4: no
[14:31] <gordonjcp> because the apps are still loaded from the USB stick
[14:32]  * novikH Thanks Kai_p_IE :)
[14:32] <vasil4> overdub, how about copying the Live CD files to a virtual drive, then chroot to them?
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> vasil4  what you describe is a live session
[14:32] <vasil4> MonkeyDust, so it's possible?
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> vasil4  boot a live usb stick, but when you shutdown, everything you changed is lost
[14:34] <Kai_p_IE> novikH, Your Welcome
[14:34] <vasil4> MonkeyDust, there's no way to set the home folder to HD?
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> vasil4  i think you're seeing it wrong
[14:39] <nakanut> Hi.  My login is no longer password protected [Ubuntu 13.04]
[14:39] <bekks> nakanut: So what did you do?
[14:39] <lifeforms> I'm considering using Ubuntu for a new box, but I want latest versions of some packages like PHP and ModSecurity. there seem no recent ppa's for ModSec. how do you guys deal with such a requirement? compile from source?
[14:39] <rich-> lifeforms: yes, compile
[14:40] <nakanut> I think it maybe to do with a recent install of screensaver
[14:40] <iceroot> lifeforms: never ever host a server and host php and mod-security from source
[14:40] <iceroot> lifeforms: 1. check if you really need the newest version of a software
[14:40] <iceroot> lifeforms: specially on servers
[14:41] <linuxthefish> how can i start the built in VNC server via SSH?
[14:42] <nakanut> On system settings it shows as protected, but I'm never asked for it either from user switching or from sleep mode
[14:42] <nakanut> weird
[14:42] <lifeforms> iceroot: true, well, ironically ModSec < latest right now has some vulnerabilities :(
[14:42] <linuxthefish> i think i need to login locally before i can VNC in, but i have no display attached to the cpomputer
[14:43] <lifeforms> I agree with php it's better to lag a little :)
[14:43] <rich-> linuxthefish: tried vncserver-x11?
[14:44] <linuxthefish> rich- idk which one it used, it's just the built in VNC server
[14:44] <linuxthefish> remote dettings thing
[14:44] <linuxthefish> settings*
[14:44] <dotcom> Hello there.  Now i want to convert and save them serial wise in a single pdf file. Is that possible in ubuntu?
[14:45] <curatrix> dotcom: Yes, use libre office
[14:46] <reisio> dotcom: why not stick with html
[14:46] <linuxthefish> how i get "** (vino-server:2185): WARNING **: Could not open X display"
[14:46] <linuxthefish> :S
[14:48] <phillustine> 157 sleeping tasks out a total of 159 tasks seems a little much, or is it normal?
[14:49] <pero_p> hi
[14:49] <dotcom> reisio: Because the number of html files are enormous.
[14:50] <reisio> dotcom: not sure how that is a factor
[14:50] <reisio> dotcom: there are a number of packages for what you want, though
[14:50] <reisio> dotcom: xhtml2pdf, wkhtmltopdf
[14:50] <reisio> you can merge PDFs simply with pdftk
[14:50] <reisio> what an awful format it is
[14:50] <dotcom> i see
[14:53] <dotcom> This is the website, http://www.aryasamajjamnagar.org/rugveda/rugveda.htm    If you look at bottom, you can navigate to other pages. All these pages are sequenced. I want to save all these pages on to my computer and convert it into a pdf file.
[14:53] <reisio> dotcom: why PDF?
[14:53] <reisio> dotcom: try using httrack
[14:53] <reisio> you could end up with a 1:1 copy
[14:54] <reisio> ew, it's just images
[14:54] <Brittany> Is there any way to execute a program through terminal without it halting the terminal tab for use of the program?
[14:54] <reisio> dotcom: what's the English name of this work?
[14:54] <Brittany> (just returning to command line after program has begun)
[14:54] <reisio> Brittany: nohup foo > /dev/null &
[14:55] <dotcom> reisio: It's RigVeda ( Hinduism religious text)
[14:55] <k1l_> Brittany: screen, nohup, disown,....
[14:55] <dotcom> Thanks. I will try httrack
[14:55] <dotcom> and see how it goes
[14:55] <zykotick9> Brittany: just "foo &" will work for most things (but you need to leave the terminal open) you might want to check out tmux/(gnu)screen for other things...
[14:55] <reisio> dotcom: sounds like the kind of thing you could get a free copy of, already in PDF (or at least in digital text, and not raster images)
[14:56] <Brittany> Thanks for the response guys.
[14:56] <FourFire> Hello, how do I change the order of installing of applications in Software center?
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> FourFire  by selecgting them in a different order
[14:57] <curatrix> dotcom: http://kickass.to/rigveda-hindu-holy-scriptures-t89794.html
[14:57] <FourFire> I have already selected them and one of them has (slowly) downloaded a lot of data
[14:58] <FourFire> is there any way to [pause] that download in favour of a smaller one which I want to use ASAP?
[14:58] <curatrix> FourFire: Only if you cancel the one that is running (not recommended)
[14:58] <FourFire> oh ok
[14:59] <FourFire> well I hope some really smart altruistic person is working on making that possible for a later version then...
[15:00] <curatrix> FourFire: Nope. it isn't wise to try and simultaneously install different packages
[15:01] <FourFire> ok that's interesting could you tell me vaguely why?
[15:01] <dotcom> reisio: Yes, i can. But all these are either English translated or not upto a particular format. But i want this in a particular format like Mantras written in Sanskrit followed by commentary in Hindi language distinguished by numbers and only that website has this.
[15:01] <bastidrazor> curatrix: it isn't possible to run multiple package managers at the same time
[15:02] <reisio> dotcom: I doubt that, but I can appreciate having only found it in the form of this website so far
[15:07] <Slart> dotcom: this one-liner should work.. I hope it doesn't download too much.. keep an eye on it   for n in {1..100}; do wget -p "http://www.aryasamajjamnagar.org/rugveda/p$n.htm"; done
[15:08] <Slart> dotcom: then when you have those you can always use one of the "images to pdf" tools that are available.. it should be as easy as pictures_to_pdf *.gif mypdf.pdf  or whatever the tool is called
[15:11] <dotcom> I am already doing this in httrack and noticed that these pages contain all images (GIF) and they are sequenced too like p1.gif, p2.gif,.............
[15:12] <Slart> dotcom: ah.. nevermind then
[15:13] <dotcom> So now all i need to do is let httrack to run until it downloads all of these gifs and then i can convert them into pdf easily.
[15:17] <zhangyuqing> hi
[15:20] <reisio> zhangyuqing: hi
[15:21] <k-stz> hi, my ubuntu loads a dangerous wlan driver (causes system crash), I have a better one, but how can I avoid that? Where is a list of drivers ubuntu tries or something like that
[15:22] <zhangyuqing> don't understand
[15:22] <reisio> blacklist
[15:23] <k-stz> reisio: ok i heard of that, but lspci shows a the a name rt2790 that doesn't exist in /proc/modules
[15:23] <zykotick9> k-stz: do you see the driver listed in "lsmod"?  if so as reisio suggested, use placklist
[15:23] <bmxscott1993> i'v finish my desktop how i what it with all the stuff on it and the layout how do i turn it into like then you use the dvd and put it in to install how do i turn my in to like that as an iso so i do not need to keep install every think to it there when i put the dvd in it install it all for me next time on a nother computer
[15:24] <k-stz> zykotick9: oh _lsmod_ is helpful, ok it shows a module I know exist
[15:27] <andresroldan> Hi everyone, I have an ATI HD 3100 video card, will this work with 13.04?
[15:35] <ThePendulum> Could someone assist me setting up Ubuntu as a VPN server?
[15:36] <reisio> #ubuntu-server
[15:36] <bekks> ThePendulum: Install and configure openvpn.
[15:36] <ThePendulum> I installed it, but I have no idea how to configure it or where to even find a configuration
[15:36] <bekks> !openvpn | ThePendulum
[15:37] <manoj_> i have new installed ubuntu 13.04.However unable to view battery status on top panel. Can anyone help?
[15:38] <krz> how does one start terminal on full width and height?
[15:38] <bekks> krz: Why?
[15:38] <krz> bekks: because
[15:38] <bekks> krz: Erm, misread you :)
[15:39] <krz> i use vim, tmux and other bg process' in the terminal
[15:39] <bekks> krz: I guess there are parameters for the terminal application to start in fullscreen.
[15:39] <krz> so id like to start the terminal in full width and height without having to click on any buttons
[15:39] <krz> bekks: not full screen. just full width and height
[15:40] <bekks> krz: the full width of - the screen?
[15:40] <bekks> krz: Still the answer stays the same.
[15:40] <zykotick9> krz: what terminal emulator are you using?  gnome-terminal, xterm, urxvt, etc?  look for options in whichever you use (or see if your window manager, has some "start fullscreen" option perhaps?)  good luck.
[15:40] <krz> bekks: yep
[15:40] <krz> zykotick9: gnome-terminal
[15:40] <holstein> krz: i usually just jab f11, for fullscreen.. but you can start them with arguments for size and position AFAIK
[15:40] <krz> holstein: i dotn want full screen
[15:41] <krz> i want full width and height
[15:41] <krz> you know the square icon on the menu bar
[15:41] <krz> i want the same effect
[15:41] <krz> without having to click on it
[15:41] <holstein> krz: correct.. that is my first statmement above, the option i do, that i was offering.. alternatively, you can start it with arguments
[15:41] <krz> square icon = maximize
[15:42] <holstein> krz: check the man page, and you should see what the size arguments are
[15:42] <zykotick9> krz: if you use tmux, that's gonna vary (making that difficult or impossible)... sorry, i mistook fullscreen origionally like veryone else ;
[15:43] <holstein> krz: this seems relevant, and should still be working http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119271&page=3
[15:43] <krz> let me try a few things out
[15:43] <krz> brb
[15:43] <optikascidia> hi
[15:43] <optikascidia> ubuntu rules
[15:43] <wheatthin> krz, what window manager are you using?
[15:43] <optikascidia> grep -d
[15:44] <wheatthin> optikascidia, did you need help or something?
[15:44] <optikascidia> not at the moment
[15:44] <wheatthin> alrighty, if you don't need any, and just wanna make chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:45] <optikascidia> k will do
[15:46] <syntroPi> where can i set the default browser in stupid gnome 3?
[15:47] <wheatthin> syntroPi, which browser you trying to set?
[15:47] <syntroPi> chromium-browser
[15:47] <wheatthin> in the chromium settings
[15:47] <wheatthin> at the bottom of the page
[15:48] <syntroPi> is that the one called when i open a link in xchat2 ?
[15:48] <syntroPi> there has to be a gnome 3 setting for that
[15:48] <holstein> syntroPi: you can try this command as well "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser"
[15:48] <Laievskaia> Hi! I've installed ubuntu 13.04 but it doesn't work or IDK what is happen with that, cuz when y turn on my pc, the grub don't show me ubuntu to initializate >C sorry for my english
[15:49] <holstein> !nomodeset | Laievskaia
[15:49] <syntroPi> holstein, well hmm that does not change where xchat is opening its links
[15:49] <krz> whats the default terminal that comes with ubuntu?
[15:50] <krz> gnome-terminal?
[15:50] <wheatthin> yup
[15:50] <holstein> syntroPi: is the problem with the system default? or with xchat not using the system default?
[15:50] <krz> ok i managed to figure out how to start terminal maximized. gnome-terminal --window --maximize. but where can i put this, so it actually executes when i open up terminal?
[15:51] <syntroPi> holstein, good question
[15:51] <holstein> krz: you can make a new shortcut.. or you can edit the one that doesnt have that argument
[15:51] <jrib> krz: you can modify the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/ or copy that file to ~/.local/share/applications and modify it there or you can avoid this and just use something like devilspie
[15:52] <wheatthin> hrz, no need to do that, you can set the default width and height in the profiles section under edit
[15:52] <syntroPi> holstein, the problem seems to be that gnome3 wouldnt honour  "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser"
[15:52] <zykotick9> syntroPi: i've run into similar issues in the past - you might want to try checking the values of "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" AND the gnome-related one!  (i don't have gnome installed right now so i can't check it's name, but try "sudo update-alternatives --config <TAB><TAB>" and i hope you see a list!  look for something like gnome-www-browser or somthing.  make sure both are set to what you want your default browser to b
[15:52] <holstein> syntroPi: so, *all* of the applications in gnome 3 are not using what you chose?
[15:53] <syntroPi> yes
[15:53] <Laievskaia> well, i'll try that
[15:53] <krz> wheatthin: default size is 1024 x 1024 only?
[15:53] <holstein> syntroPi: i think there are gnome support channels.. have you tried there?
[15:53] <syntroPi> holstein, i remember in gnome 2 there was a default applications setting but i cant find it in stupid gnome 3
[15:54] <wheatthin> krz, just set it by rows and columns
[15:54] <holstein> syntroPi: i read that its in "system information"
[15:54] <wheatthin> until it fits your screen
[15:56] <syntroPi> holstein, aah there we go, thanks a lot. gnome 3 sometimes makes me want to bang my head to the wall LoL
[15:56] <wheatthin> syntroPi, it's just different :)
[15:58] <wheatthin> syntroPi, there's also a way to set some things up with gnome-tweak-tool, if you haven't discovered it yet
[15:59] <Laievskaia> how to update grub on my installation from live cd_
[15:59] <Laievskaia> ?
[15:59] <wheatthin> !grub | Laievskaia
[15:59] <syntroPi> wheatthin, yeah first thing i installed. just cant wrap my head around gnome 3 ui design "logic" sometimes.
[16:00] <Laievskaia> i'will use sudo update-grub but it will update live cd grub it is not_
[16:00] <Laievskaia> ?
[16:01] <k1l_> Laievskaia: you need to chroot into the installes ubuntu first
[16:01] <Laievskaia> how to ? kill
[16:01] <syntroPi> zykotick9, thanks indeed there is a "sudo update-alternatives --config gnome-www-browser"
[16:01] <wooy> Hi, I got 12.04 live cd running. How can i open terminal?
[16:01] <Laievskaia> ctrl + t
[16:02] <Laievskaia> ctrl + alt + t sorry
[16:02] <KriShANsiN> hey is there a way to share a live capture file with someone using paste bin? i installed wireshark and caught some unusual suspicious activity on my eth0 but i dont know how to save it in a viewable format. i did save a capture but when i went to view it it was unviewable.?
[16:02] <wheatthin> Laievskaia, http://ubuntunigeria.wordpress.com/2010/09/02/how-to-restore-grub2-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd-or-thumb-drive/      see if that helps
[16:02] <k1l_> Laievskaia: http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/  like this one
[16:02] <wooy> Laievskaia: nice one, thx.
[16:02] <holstein> Laievskaia: there is boot repair here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:03] <Laievskaia> Thanks!!
[16:09] <KriShANsiN> can we post screen shots in paste bin?
[16:10] <Nach0z> KriShANsiN: don't think that's possible. try snag.gy instead.
[16:10] <bastidrazor> !screenshots
[16:11] <Nach0z> ehhhh. imagebin meh. snag.gy +1.
[16:11] <wheatthin> lol it's all about personal preferences
[16:12] <Nach0z> well, imagebin requires you to save your screenshot to a file and upload it
[16:12] <zykotick9> syntroPi: glad to help
[16:12] <Nach0z> snag.gy just lets you printscreen and ctrl+v the image. especially useful in windows
[16:13] <wheatthin> Nach0z, but this is ubuntu :)
[16:13] <Laievskaia> :/
[16:13] <Laievskaia> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/media/ubuntu/9eab0924-ea48-4868-a8a9-53cb296254be mount: mount point /mnt/media/ubuntu/9eab0924-ea48-4868-a8a9-53cb296254be does not exist
[16:14] <Nach0z> I don't use printscreen often, I don't remember if it saves to a file or just puts it on the clipboard >___>
[16:14] <wheatthin> Laievskaia, so create a directory
[16:14] <wheatthin> to mount it to
[16:14] <KriShANsiN> oh wow image bin is not working? what am i doing wrong?
[16:15] <Laievskaia> but the directory is not my ubuntu installation?
[16:16] <wheatthin> Laievskaia, it'll create a director in ram
[16:16] <wheatthin> directory*
[16:16] <tjr9898> I'm on 12.04 and was trying to do add an external monitor with xorg
[16:16] <tjr9898> I want to stop that
[16:16] <tjr9898> and just used how Ubuntu was working by default
[16:17] <tjr9898> Any guidance
[16:18] <tjr9898> The fly-out next to the Dash button has like a different mesh type background
[16:18] <wheatthin> KriShANsiN, printscreen actually puts the image to your ~/Pictures   folder
[16:18] <tjr9898> There is a grey screen that display during boo
[16:18] <tjr9898> boot
[16:19] <wheatthin> tjr9898, on the second monitor?
[16:19] <tjr9898> No I unplugged the second montor
[16:19] <tjr9898> This is just for my default laptop setup
[16:20] <wheatthin> tjr9898, you can try  X -reconfigure
[16:20] <Lightz> hi. the command "locate" does not give exact results of what i am searching. for example: "locate 1 " will bring all files, that got a 1 in the name. how can i fix this? thanks.
[16:20] <wheatthin> Lightz, did you try sudo updatedb first?
[16:21] <tjr9898> wheatthin, says -reconfigure is unrecongized
[16:22] <wheatthin> tjr9898, might need to add a second -
[16:22] <Laievskaia> mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/sda2/point’: No such file or directory :C i'll cry
[16:22] <mohtaw> hello
[16:23] <wheatthin> Laievskaia, /dev/sda2
[16:23] <wheatthin> point
[16:23] <KriShANsiN> oh man how do i delete a folder that i created from my file system?
[16:23] <wheatthin> /dev/sda2/ponit
[16:23] <ben__> hey, is this where i could ask a question about modules, or would that be a different channel?
[16:24] <wheatthin> KriShANsiN, rm -f
[16:24] <Laievskaia> mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/dev/sda2/point’: Not a directory
[16:24] <wheatthin> err
[16:24] <Lightz> wheatthin: no. i try it
[16:24] <wheatthin> rm -r
[16:24] <wheatthin> I think
[16:24] <syntroPi> Laievskaia, /dev are devices like block devices
[16:25] <Laievskaia> syntroPi, what i have to do :C
[16:25] <wheatthin> syntax, sorry ;/ just woke up//
[16:25] <wheatthin> Laievskaia, mkdir /media/<username>/mountpoint
[16:26] <tjr9898> wheatthin, thanks but still not there
[16:26] <syntroPi> Laievskaia, "ls -l /dev/sda2" will list it with "brw-rw----" right?
[16:26] <ben__> Laievskaia - yes /dev stands for devices - those are things you mount to other locations -  you are trying to make a directory that would actually be a hard drive disk - and since that would not be just a directory, it will not be able to 'make' a hard drive
[16:26] <tjr9898> I was more  worried that there was some unity related thing I needed to check out
[16:26] <mohtaw> high all i have dell e6430 . and this is the lspci (  http://ur1.ca/eeop1 )  and this is the glxgears (300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.903 FPS)
[16:26] <mohtaw> how i can activate the card
[16:26] <wheatthin> tjr9898,   sudo X -configure
[16:26] <mithran> hai my hp 1020 printer is not working in 13.04
[16:26] <j1h4d> hi all... i'm trying to install fusion-icon on ubuntu studio 13.04, when i run it, it's returning segmentation fault... i saw people saying that has a bug.. does someone knows something about it????
[16:26] <tjr9898> wheatthin, I did there was an error
[16:27] <Lightz> wheatthin: updatedb didnt fix it.
[16:27] <wheatthin> <-- is gonna stop now I'm too awake
[16:27] <wheatthin> Lightz, it should have updated fully and locate would find it
[16:27] <wheatthin> tjr9898,  which error?
[16:28] <Lightz> wheatthin: yes, im finding it. but also every other file with a 1 in the name, which are more than 1000
[16:28] <Laievskaia> im loosing my mind, i can't do it well
[16:28] <Laievskaia> losing
[16:28] <tjr9898> http://pastebin.com/aAVPQHmK
[16:28] <syntroPi> Laievskaia, what do you want to accomplish?
[16:28] <Lightz> wheatthin: thats why i only need files with the exact name "1"
[16:28] <tjr9898> wheatthin, http://pastebin.com/aAVPQHmK
[16:28] <gmax88> salve
[16:29] <ben__> well   I have installed RocketRaid 262 drivers as a module on my 12.04 server  (If you ever get a raid/fakeraid/sata/esata card...  I highly recommend you stay away from highpoint....   as they like to think their products are compatible with linux, despite never updating drivers past a 2.something kernel
[16:29] <Laievskaia> SyntroPi, my grub and installation doesn't work... well i can see my ubuntu instalallation but it doesn't run at startup and grub doesn't show ubuntu
[16:29] <wheatthin> tjr9898, sudo service gdm stop, and then retry
[16:29] <mithran> how to solve printer issue regarding hp1020
[16:30] <wheatthin> Lightz, then I'd use the find command to get more specific
[16:30] <mohtaw> high all i have dell e6430 . and this is the lspci (  http://ur1.ca/eeop1 )  and this is the glxgears (300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.903 FPS)   i need the instruction to activate the cards
[16:30] <mohtaw> high all i have dell e6430 . and this is the lspci (  http://ur1.ca/eeop1 )  and this is the glxgears (300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.903 FPS)   i need the instruction to activate the cards
[16:30] <mohtaw> high all i have dell e6430 . and this is the lspci (  http://ur1.ca/eeop1 )  and this is the glxgears (300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.903 FPS)   i need the instruction to activate the cards
[16:30] <FloodBot1> mohtaw: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:30] <tjr9898> saying gdm was an unrecongized service
[16:30] <ben__> anyways, when version 12.04-27 updated to something like 12.04-33  -  the module had disappeared...  can anyone help me try to figure out why a module would go missing because of an update???  I thought that was the reasoning behind it being a module... is that it will be included as the kernel updates
[16:30] <wheatthin> tjr9898, sudo killall X
[16:30] <gmax88> bhfhnrnrn4
[16:31] <mithran> it shows the print job has completed but nothing happened
[16:31] <__RC__> hi all
[16:31] <zykotick9> tjr9898: lightdm perhaps, or gdm3 if you're really using gdm
[16:31] <syntroPi> Laievskaia, idk what your problem with grub is exactly but "sudo update-grub" always fixed things for me. prior to that you can modify "/etc/default/grub" for settings maybe
[16:31] <tjr9898> If I'm on this same laptop would killall X, kill my GUI
[16:32] <wheatthin> tjr9898, what graphics card?
[16:32] <Laievskaia> yes, syntroPi, but if i do sudo update-grub it will update my LIVE CD GRUB?
[16:32] <Laievskaia> and i need update my installation grub D>
[16:33] <tjr9898> wheatthin, idk
[16:33] <syntroPi> aah you are on livecd... well maybe you need to do a chroot to your ubuntu installation then
[16:33] <Laievskaia> yes, i was trying to do that.. but i can't
[16:33] <syntroPi> why?
[16:33] <wheatthin> Laievskaia, why?
[16:34] <mithran> can you please help me in connection with configuring hp printer 1020 to ubuntu 13.04
[16:36] <Laievskaia> IDK, error about mkdir, let me tray again... just a sec :3
[16:36] <wheatthin> Laievskaia, where is your installation located?
[16:36] <ben__> tjr9898, i find when setting up new things (drivers... etc)... this is easier done through a shell rather than gui anyways - because of personal experience with some gui tools attempting to add something like a proprietary driver, and if the GUI tool is using commands that are out of date and not working, it can be hard to tell what the problem is...  and helps you learn small amounts about how the system works
[16:37] <Laievskaia> sd
[16:37] <Laievskaia> where /media/ubuntu/9eab0924-ea48-4868-a8a9-53cb296254be
[16:37] <Laievskaia> x'de HDD
[16:37] <tjr9898> ben__, I'm with you on learning the system works
[16:37] <wheatthin> cd /media/ubuntu/9eab0924-ea48-4868-a8a9-53cb296254be
[16:37] <tjr9898> I'm just learning about how GUI actually works
[16:38] <tjr9898> I've been focusing more on web servers
[16:38] <ben__> mithran, that sounds like it would be easy to find someone who has done what you are trying to do on askubuntu.com or the official wiki and forums through help.ubuntu.com -  that is if no one else is able to help you
[16:38] <KriShANsiN> um i think i am looking at netBios requests.
[16:38] <wheatthin> Laievskaia, then mkdir point (if that's what you want to call it)
[16:38] <wheatthin> but if chrooting
[16:39] <ben__> tjr9898- a GUI simply turns graphical buttons into what you would be typing in the shell
[16:39] <tjr9898> ben__, The good/bad thing is Ubuntu has became pretty plug and play for most things
[16:39] <wheatthin> follow the rest of the guide, by mounting proc and whatnot
[16:39] <Laievskaia> i think finally can xd
[16:39] <Laievskaia> root@ubuntu:/#  thats right?
[16:39] <ben__> tjr9898,  I understand what you mean by good/bad - especially since you are referring to installing a video card driver, correct??
[16:39] <KriShANsiN> http://imagebin.org/262184
[16:40] <KriShANsiN> what is this
[16:40] <tjr9898> external usb2vga adapter
[16:40] <wheatthin> yup sounds right.. were you able to mount the proc n stuff?
[16:40] <mithran> ben__: Thanks Ben i already tried and printer worked  after restarted it rollback to the same stage
[16:40] <tjr9898> ben__,  external usb2vga adapter
[16:41] <tjr9898> ben__,  now I've messed up how my regular vga external monitor works
[16:41] <ben__> tjr9898, ubtuntu and linux in general trys to keep things opensource, so it always tries to find a opensource driver to use - of course not all devices have an opensource driver.....  but it doesn't mean they aren't supported by linux
[16:41] <tjr9898> ben__, This is DisplayLink certified so I was getting the green screen that I need after a modprobe
[16:41] <KriShANsiN> http://imagebin.org/262186 help?
[16:42] <mithran> ben__: Thanks again  C U  Later
[16:42] <ben__> trj9898, my issue is regarding a module that i had to install
[16:42] <ben__> mirthran, glad it worked for ya
[16:43] <ben__> trj9898, i'm afraid i don't know what you mean by getting a green screen that you need after doing a modprobe.
[16:44] <syntroPi> Laievskaia, boot from usb stick into rescue shell, mount your ubuntu as root and chroot into that, start bash: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt  ;  sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev ; sudo mount -o bind /sys /mnt/sys ; sudo mount -t proc /proc /mnt/proc ; sudo chroot /mnt /bin/bash ;  grub-install --force /dev/sda  ; exit ; reboot
[16:45] <syntroPi> Laievskaia, use whatever /dev/sd?? your ubuntu is installed onto
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> KriShANsiN  did you have a ubuntu support question?
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> laievskaia: omgubuntu has a guide: sticking it to grub
[16:46] <ben__> trj9898, if you are using modprobe to turn on the adapter... you need to make the module permanent by adding the module name to the /etc/modules files
[16:46] <KriShANsiN> MonkeyDust: well, i am trying to figure out what this traffic is realted to on my UBUNTU operating system so yes.
[16:47] <wheatthin> KriShANsiN, is something broken?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> krishnasin: do you run an irc or ntp server?
[16:48] <KriShANsiN> MonkeyDust: my question is, what is this traffic going on because i am not doing anything but there is tons of network traffic, i posted the traffic screenshot there and was wondering what it was.
[16:48] <KriShANsiN> ActionParsnip: no i do not run any server
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> krishansin: is that what you see?
[16:49] <ben__> krishansin:   I don't see tons of network traffic.    I see communications with this IRC server, and basic requests from your ISP
[16:50] <flash> wza
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> KriShANsiN  i didnt see your question, probably missed it
[16:51] <KriShANsiN> ben__: are they netBios ? can i disable that traffic
[16:51] <ben__> krishansin,   even an idle computer often still has network activity going on, just very little,   you're looking at individual packets, one indicates an outgoing transmission or inbound query, the next usually is your computers response or the IRC server
[16:52] <KriShANsiN> ben__: oh really ? see i never knew that? but i did some research before asking in here and found netBios only as posssible explanation. it is good for me to know this and have learned how to not only get the live capture but to also upload it to here so you guys could see it, in fact that is a accomlishment in itself for me.
[16:52] <ben__> Krishansin:  which traffic exactly are you talking about?  the NET, TCP, IRC or IGMP ?
[16:53] <KriShANsiN> ben__: its all alien to me really sorry
[16:53] <DTomas> How to start screen saver from terminal in 12.04 (unity)?
[16:54] <DTomas> How to start screen saver from terminal in 12.04 (unity) or lock the screen in other way?
[16:54] <KriShANsiN> ben__: as long as its not hackers then i just dont care unless its to learn more interanl processes. so far it sounds innocent so its good.
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> dtomas: which screevaver are using?
[16:55] <ben__> Krishansin: I see 111 bytes transfered... this is nothing more than basic communication between your computer and the router, your internet provider and your network, and your computer and this IRC server
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> DTomas  http://askubuntu.com/questions/7776/how-do-i-lock-the-desktop-screen-via-command-line
[16:55] <KriShANsiN> ben__: well that is great news and i learned something new thank you
[16:56] <DTomas> MonkeyDust, but that one starts gnome screen saver I think unity uses other
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> DTomas  unity is a gnome3 shell
[16:56] <ben__> krishansin, the only thing I don't know is what the blue NTP packets are - they appear to have to do with your router tough, as they go to ip <IP_ADDRESS>, and the IGMP packet regarding joining V2 - which is also from the same ip address, which is typically a home router
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> DTomas  command works here, just tried
[16:57] <wheatthin> MonkeyDust, unity isn't a gnome 3 shell.. gnome-shell is gnome 3 shell :)
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> dthomas: http://askubuntu.com/questions/7776/how-do-i-lock-the-desktop-screen-via-command-line
[16:58] <DTomas> MonkeyDust, but appearance is different (top bar) than that one used by unity
[16:58] <KriShANsiN> ben__: well the .100 concerns me that it may be one of my devices but i dont have open ssh installed on any of my devices so i dont know how they could be hacked.?
[16:58] <ben__> kirshansin,  despite not knowing exactly what they are, you're correct it is not anything to worry about - no hackers, and not enough data transfer for you to worry about it slowing down anything.  it just appears to be your internet service and router 'jibber jabbing' - at least thats the best analogy i can think of :)
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> DTomas  i'm using unity, the command works here
[16:58] <DTomas> I'm very picky :/
[16:59] <KriShANsiN> ben__: very well thank you for taking the time to help out
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> dtomas: if you use ccsm to set a shortcut to run the command
[17:00] <ben__> krishansin: the .100 is likely your modem/router - and it is keeping the connection open with your internet service and forwarding the correct data to your computer...    there is nothing suspicious that would indicate a hacker is trying to get in, the commands are coming from the .100 ip address, and simple queries are the only thing going to it
[17:00] <ben__> no problem
[17:01] <KriShANsiN> ben__: sweet. man i learned alot today . gotta let the brain cool off. thanks again to all the helpful souls out there in Ubuntu land.
[17:01] <meLon> I'm having one hell of a time with pulseaudio.  Restarted a couple of nights ago and now the only thing that works is ALSA and I can only have one program using sound because of it.  pavucontrol never connects to pulse, although pulse is running.  I've tried killing and running as my user, but nothing seems to work.  Any suggestions?
[17:02] <DTomas> I just writing logon script to lock screen when I logon, so I can set my account to login automatically to start all programs/services
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> DTomas  a bash script? if yes, better ask advice in #bash
[17:04] <ben__> wheatthin, you seem to know a bit more than i do, could you help me with module issue....   I finally modified a rr62x driver and installed it using dkms so that I wouldn't have to reinstall it....  but it disappeared during an update...   I reverted back to an older header....  it was like 12.04*-27 and the newest (at the time) was 12.04* -33, and that seemed to fix it.   so the rr62x driver shows up now when i do command "lsmod"
[17:04] <DTomas> MonkeyDust, well I only needed command to lock the screen, thanks
[17:05] <ben__> how can i make sure it will stay there through updates?
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> DTomas  did you try the command i suggested?
[17:06] <wheatthin> ben_ when doing kernel updates, it'll always overwrite things
[17:06] <DTomas> yes it works, but it just does not look like screensaver started automatically by unity
[17:07] <bekks> ben__: you cant.
[17:08] <ben__> whatthin, I thought that was the purpose of using DKMS to install a module instead of just manually installing the driver.... and these aren't updating from 12.04 to another version, it is just security and standard updates for 12.04 LTS - I guess thats what confuses me
[17:09] <OerHeks> ben__, if that update was a kernel you would need to compile again
[17:09] <wheatthin> benif it's outside a mainline module*, meaning if the kernel didn't come with the same module, then it'll allow you to update
[17:09] <wheatthin> otherwise it's overwritten
[17:10] <wheatthin> so best thing I can say, is backup your kernel module and replace it after the kernel updates
[17:12] <ben__> what does it mean when it says part of the DKMS file tells the program: "To automatically install the module into a new kernel on boot if the capability exists (this isn't necessary if you use Ubuntu's prebuilt packages to update your kernels, but it doesn't hurt)."
[17:13] <wheatthin> ben_ it just means it'll automatically load the module that isn't included with the new kernel
[17:17] <ben__> ok, I guess my problem is that it didn't load the module following one of the standard updates/security updates - it is set not to install any new kernels though.   Since I don't know why it disappeared (likely it threw an error regarding the module during the update but I don't monitor it often), it sounds like making a back up so it can be easily re-added would be best...
[17:18] <armin> are the ubuntu unity compiz plugins somewhere accessible via git?
[17:18] <wheatthin> armin, git isn't from the repo..
[17:19] <wheatthin> armin use apt-get
[17:19] <wheatthin> armin, to look for them use  sudo apt-cache search compiz
[17:19] <ben__>  it was a couple month ago I used the command line coding to install the module and configure the dkms file and add the module, but i don't recall all the commands...  can you point me in the right direction on how i'd make a back up of the module and  how i'd reinstall that back up if it 'disappears' again?
[17:19] <wheatthin> it'll tell you what's installable as far as compiz plugins
[17:21] <crond> This is bizzare, why on earth would I be unable to adjust my laptop backlight until after I've gone into and come out of sleep mode? I have an nvidia 660m w/ the nvidia driver.
[17:21] <wheatthin> ben_ check this out see if it pertains to you  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DKMS
[17:22] <tjr9898> ls
[17:22] <ben__> the driver code had to be modified in a few areas just to run with kernel versions above 3.0 --- it worked fine, but high point was too lazy to add the newer kernel versions as valid ones in their code....  then it had to be added to modules, and create a new init so it'd load on boot, etc...   it'd be a lot easier to know how to back up an already installed module and use that, than it would be to attempt and reinstall the driver
[17:22] <SonikkuAmerica> tjr9898: That would be effective in a terminal, yes :)
[17:23] <ben__> wheatthin, that is how i installed the module...
[17:23] <tjr9898> wheatthin, ben__, Looks like I still had a conf file in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d that was messing me up
[17:24] <tjr9898> SonikkuAmerica, I don't know how many times I typed ls in my web browser
[17:24] <wheatthin> tjr9898, that's why I was trying to have you generate a new xorg config file
[17:25] <tjr9898> right and it wouldn't let me because the old conf was still there that I thought I had deleted
[17:25] <wheatthin> tjr9898, ahh
[17:25] <tjr9898> Classic example of breathe and actually read the error messages and try to think logically
[17:26] <tjr9898> not OMG every change I do is making everything worse
[17:26] <tjr9898> Anyway, I'm at least where I was yesterday
[17:26] <tjr9898> Thanks all for your help
[17:26] <wheatthin> yup yw
[17:27] <ben__> wheatthin, rather than following 'typical makefile,    make install commands -   I used dkms - setting up the config file for it and everything, and got the module installed using dkms - which is why i didn't think it would go anywhere if I stuck with 12.04 LTS .....   at the bottom of the link you listed, the example given IS the instructions for installing the exact driver I'm mentioning (rr26x)
[17:28] <ben__> sorry that'd be rr62x
[17:29] <BlAdE2> How are supposed to be created the .efi files?
[17:29] <BlAdE2> by using efibootmgr or grug can make it ?
[17:29] <BlAdE2> grub*
[17:32] <ben__> and the kernel wasn't updated either, only regular updates are being installed - it is set to stay on 12.04 LTS....    but something else that was updated must have thrown an error when dkms or initrd attempted to start or add the module - I could no longer find it listed and revert back to a previous image (the only differences were -27, -28, -29, etc at the end of the version name.  I believe thats because they were just standard upda
[17:33] <divderdude> is there any way to install and run a simple msi file on ubuntu? its written for dotnet framework
[17:34] <wheatthin> ben_ update overwrite dkms config you edited/
[17:34] <ben__> so a standard update, perhaps to a code it uses (python or something else)  caused it to fail to load back into the kernel , and I couldn't find the module and didn't know how else to install it other than to try and revert to an image where it was still showing up with lsmod - or to install from scratch (which between the driver code modifications, and the DKMS configuration on top of that  - I really didn't want to do)...
[17:35] <adasz> Hello, my Operating System takes very long to boot. on the screen is the last point that i can see ' Starting Samba Winbind', in the /var/log/boot.log there is after 'Starting Samba Winbind' this point 'Stopping cold plug devices'. i think 'Stopping cold plug devices' is the reason why i takes so long to boot.
[17:35] <ben__> if I knew how to make a back up for a module... and could have used that to reinstall the module itself... that would be great
[17:35] <wheatthin> ben_ so instead of using dkms to try and upload it, why not install it without dkms and it'll stick.. at least until the next kernel update
[17:36] <wheatthin> by using sudo make install
[17:37] <compdoc> adasz, not sure what a cold plug device is, but you could go over your smb.conf and see how its configured
[17:38] <wheatthin> ben_ by adding it to /etc/modules to load automatically
[17:38] <ben__> well it is installed just as if I had don't makefile and make install -  the only difference is that dkms is supposed to store the location of the module and directions in case the kernel is updated so it will reload the module...   no kernel updates, so something else that was updated the module didn't like
[17:39] <ben__> if the module lists right now under lsmod, what location/file do i need to copy in order to be able to re-install it in the future?
[17:39] <ben__> I don't want to start from the beginning
[17:40] <adasz> compdoc, i can't se anything that is suspect http://pastie.org/8069936
[17:40] <ben__> the .ko .h -  several files had to be modified to tell the driver that it was ok to install if the linux version wasn't below 3.0
[17:41] <wheatthin> ben_ they'll be located somewhere in /usr/src
[17:41] <wheatthin> and whatever kernel is loaded,
[17:45] <Venks> test
[17:46] <wheatthin> ben__, you can use  locate <modulename> and it'll show you where it's installed
[17:46] <ben__> is it the ".ko" file i'd want to back up, and likely a copy of the /etc/modules file?   so I cld then just copy the .ko file to the kernel tree and update the initrd to re-add the module... at least then if it doesn't load I might be able to see an error indicating why?
[17:47] <wheatthin> yeah
[17:49] <ben__> wheatthin, ok thats a start i can copy the files from there into a module backup folder under my home directory
[17:54] <diverdude> hello. i have tried installing this program with wine: http://sssp.dtuaqua.dk/download.aspx But when i run the program it says missing parameter and it dont start. How can i run this program?
[17:56] <wheatthin> diverdude, you need the .net framework to run this... with wine, it's not default
[17:56] <reisio> you might actually see if mono can run it
[17:56] <diverdude> wheatthin, oh, how do i install that?
[17:56] <reisio> http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks
[17:56] <diverdude> reisio, yeah i thought about that, but mono dont install msi i think?
[17:57] <reisio> that's a separate problem :)
[17:58] <reisio> course cabextract just outputs nonsense :p
[17:59] <wheatthin> diverdude, install the .net framework
[17:59] <wheatthin> you find the download link, and execute it with wine
[18:00] <reisio> it's dotnet2 or something, via winetricks
[18:01] <grmcrkrs> anyone have any experience with #bridge-utils ?
[18:01] <reisio> grmcrkrs: probably someone has
[18:01] <microm> Is it reasonable to use Blender for 3D CAD (not 3D animation but 3D CAD)?
[18:02] <reisio> microm: it's not unreasonable, but there are probably more appropriate applications
[18:02] <grmcrkrs> I'm getting errors when trying to add the interface wlan0. I can add at0 to the bridge and also eth0 but not wlan0
[18:03] <reisio> BRL-CAD comes to mind; others: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Linux_computer-aided_design_software
[18:03] <microm> I am listening if you'd like to share practical experience this field... :-) I can google the rest
[18:03] <diverdude> reisio, hmmm when i do winetricks dotnet40 i get: "Same or higher version of .NET Framework 4 has already been installed on this computer."
[18:04] <reisio> diverdude: I'm not sure 4 does what 2 does
[18:04] <kostkon_> diverdude: yeah, latest versions of wine come with mono
[18:05] <diverdude> reisio, ah right....so its bcz that program requires dotnet2 and dotnet 4 is not  backward compatible?
[18:05] <reisio> that would be my first guess
[18:06] <diverdude> reisio, why does people write stuff in dotnet...its insane
[18:06] <wheatthin> that's microsoft for you.
[18:06] <reisio> "people" are young adults taking classes funded by Microsoft
[18:07] <diverdude> arrrg: dotnet2.0: "This product is not supported on a 64-bit operating system"!
[18:08] <reisio> diverdude: WINEARCH=win32 ./winetricks dotnet2
[18:08] <reisio> WINEARCH=win32 wine SPPPwtvr.msi
[18:08] <reisio> etc.
[18:08] <freshbone123> Why is it dangerous running GUI-Applications with sudo and not with gksudo?
[18:09] <flux242> diverdude: in what should people write stuff?
[18:09] <reisio> you mean gksu?
[18:09] <freshbone123> reisio, yes
[18:09] <diverdude> flux242, just write a homepage instead....desktop stuff is obsolete
[18:09] <reisio> su and sudo are actually different, can't speak for gksu
[18:10] <reisio> gksudo should be the samey, though
[18:10] <reisio> freshbone123: it's probably just that once you close the GUI app, you still potentially have a terminal with root privs available
[18:10] <reisio> but if you were that concerned with it, you wouldn't use Ubuntu style sudo anyways
[18:11] <IsmAvatar> Hey guys, I'm on U13.04 and java web apps seem to redirect me to java.com's download page. I have java installed already, though.
[18:11] <reisio> maybe they're quite poorly made Java™ apps
[18:11] <reisio> (as if there's any other kind!)
[18:11] <ben__> If I made a copy of the rr62x.ko file, and I know its location is lib/modules/*version*/kernel/drivers/scsi/rr62x/  ...  what would I need to do in order to reinstall that module?  would running the usual "make install" command from within the copied rr62x.ko file still work?
[18:11] <flux242> diverdude: cli is obsolete for 20 years but is still widely used especially on linux
[18:11] <reisio> or maybe you're just missing the browser plugin
[18:12] <IsmAvatar> reisio: that's what I figured, so I installed it from the Software Center, but it's still doing the same stuff.
[18:12] <diverdude> reisio,  wine: WINEARCH set to win32 but '/home/bdi/.wine' is a 64-bit installation.
[18:13] <reisio> diverdude: if there's nothing in ~/.wine you care about, just rm it
[18:13] <reisio> diverdude: otherwise mv it or
[18:13] <reisio> diverdude: use WINEPREFIX to make another one elsewhere
[18:14] <mojtaba> Hi,  I have a spreadsheet and in each cell there is a text with hyperlink, I want to just keep the hyperlink, not the text. Does anybody know what should I do?
[18:14] <armin> any unity hackers in here? trying to find the corresponding .cpp files for the alt-tab switcher. any help?
[18:15] <IsmAvatar> java.com is unable to verify if java is currently installed, so it's not just the app, it's all apps.
[18:16] <diverdude> reisio, then i get wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\SPPPwtvr.msi"
[18:16] <reisio> mojtaba: export to CSV first
[18:17] <diverdude> reisio, i just did mv ~/.wine ~/.wine2
[18:17] <wheatthin> diverdude, you're using too many back slashes
[18:17] <reisio> diverdude: dunno, then, try #winehq
[18:17] <diverdude> wheaties, i am not using any backslash...its writing that by itself
[18:17] <diverdude> reisio, thats a dead channel
[18:17] <reisio> nah
[18:18] <mojtaba> reisio: What should I do after that?
[18:18] <diverdude> reisio, and if i do  WINEARCH=win32 wine ./SSSPv3_1.msi i get: wine: Bad EXE format for Z:\home\bdi\Downloads\SSSPv3_1.msi.
[18:19] <elisa87> do pastes in paste.ubuntu.com fade after a while?
[18:19] <wheatthin> elisa87, I believe so.
[18:20] <elisa87> Is there any other site like that which might have permanent paste? wheatthin
[18:20] <diverdude> reisio, what am I missing?
[18:21] <nintet> i just created a disk with Gparted, and when i mount it it is read only and i cant store files on it
[18:21] <mojtaba> reisio: It did not work, because it just send the text to the .csv file.
[18:22] <compdoc> nintet, how are you mounting it?
[18:22] <mojtaba> I just want to keep the hyperlink, not the text.
[18:22] <nintet> Xfce, from the desktop
[18:22] <nintet> with Xubuntu 12.04 LTS
[18:22] <wheatthin> elisa87,  http://pastebin.com/
[18:22] <compdoc> sounds like the folder youre mounting it in has no permissions
[18:22] <reisio> mojtaba: csv files are easier to process
[18:23] <wheatthin> if you go there, it has a setting for expirations
[18:23] <reisio> mojtaba: pastebin an example line from the csv
[18:23] <nintet> it has no permissions because it was created as root
[18:23] <reisio> nintet: that's what read only means
[18:23] <nintet> i am saying, i want to copy my stuff to it
[18:23] <compdoc> mount it yourself, in a folder youve created
[18:23] <nintet> can you give me an example please?
[18:24] <nintet> mounting is something i was never  very good at
[18:24] <mojtaba> reisio: I can handle the csv file, but the problem is that, those in the spreadsheet have hyperlink, which is different than the text, and when exporting to .csv file. It just export the text, not the hyperlink behind it.
[18:24] <mojtaba> for example, there is "email" text, which have the hyperlink<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:24] <reisio> mojtaba: pastebin an example line from the csv
[18:24] <reisio> mojtaba: 'email'?
[18:25] <prime_> hello friends
[18:25] <prime_> algum brasileiro on?
[18:25] <mojtaba> reisio: Yes, the hyperlink of the email is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and when click on that, it just opens a new document to send email to it.
[18:25] <Brazuka> Galera, entrem na rede irc.anonnet.org no canal #Brasil, e encontrem outros brasileiros... Estou divulgando essa rede AnonNET, pois o canal Brasil nessa rede eh privado...
[18:25] <reisio> prime_: #ubuntu-br
[18:25] <AndroUser> Guys,  my usb keyboard is not being redetected after disconnecting it.  How do I force it without reboot?
[18:26] <reisio> mojtaba: pastebin an example line from the csv
[18:26] <Brazuka> Galera, entrem na rede irc.anonnet.org no canal #Brasil, e encontrem outros brasileiros... Estou divulgando essa rede AnonNET, pois o canal Brasil nessa rede eh privado...
[18:26] <Brazuka> nesse rede FREEnode o canal brasil eh privado
[18:26] <reisio> Brazuka: what, #ubuntu-br?
[18:27] <mojtaba> reisio: "Amirloo Abolfathi, Jeyran",,jamirloo,,E5-4119.2,,x31433,,1
[18:27] <mojtaba> "Azizi, Mostafa",,mazizi,,EIT-4118.2,,x37457,,1
[18:27] <mojtaba> "Munoz Guerrero, Juan Carlos",,jcmunozg,,EIT-4151.5,,x38036,,1
[18:27] <Brazuka> reisio i dont know
[18:27] <reisio> k...
[18:30] <Cristhian_Adan> tnks
[18:31] <mojtaba> reisio: Any idea?
[18:32] <reisio> mojtaba: about?
[18:32] <reisio> oh right
[18:32] <reisio> mojtaba: and what was the "link" for that example?
[18:33] <mojtaba> reisio: for example, when in spreadsheet, by keeping the mouse over "Jamirloo", it shows the hyperlink, "mailto<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:33] <reisio> mojtaba: literally<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or did you just make that up?
[18:33] <chamunks> Is there a dban style package for ubuntu I have about 200 drives that need to be securely wiped.
[18:33] <mojtaba> I just want to keep the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and remove the Jamirloo in this case.
[18:34] <mojtaba> reisio: literally
[18:34] <reisio> chamunks: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/foo bs=1M (be careful)
[18:34] <chamunks> and anything other than a batch operation would be rediculous obviously.
[18:34] <reisio> chamunks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_%28Unix%29#Disk_wipe
[18:34] <chamunks> reisio, thing is it has to be wiped with a certain standard a simple DD might be a bit less then specific.
[18:35] <Brazuka> Galera, entrem na rede irc.anonnet.org no canal #Brasil, e encontrem outros brasileiros... Estou divulgando essa rede AnonNET, pois o canal Brasil nessa FREEnode eh privado...
[18:35] <nintet> sudo mount -o rw /dev/sda3 /home/me/Public      and still no permissions to copy files
[18:35] <nintet> i dont understand
[18:35] <reisio> chamunks: those standards are nonsense wastes of time
[18:35] <chamunks> theres a certain requirement which I cant recall at this specific moment.  its actually for my local computer recycling facility
[18:35] <paul_> hello canoniCAL))
[18:35] <reisio> chamunks: they won't check
[18:35] <chamunks> reisio, yeah its just that the company that donated the hardware asked
[18:35] <reisio> chamunks: they don't have the time to, and neither do you or anyone else sane
[18:35] <reisio> chamunks: eh... and you can afford to spend the time?
[18:36] <chamunks> not necesserily
[18:36] <chamunks> but if its like I just turn it on and leave it for a week
[18:36] <reisio> chamunks: how big are the drives
[18:36] <reisio> yeah it could be a week for 200 drives :p
[18:36] <chamunks> just a couple of rackmounted SAN's with about 100 gigs on scsi drives.
[18:36] <AndroUser> Guys,  in 13.04 my usb keyboard is not being redetected after disconnecting it.  How do I force it without reboot?
[18:37] <chamunks> or like 160
[18:37] <paul_> 13.04 is full shit
[18:37] <chamunks> this place just recycles computers and sells them to less fortunate or older people
[18:37] <reisio> chamunks: figure out which standard it is they asked for
[18:37] <nintet> can anyone help me with a simple mount ? i forget the syntax
[18:37] <chamunks> basically families that dont care for raw compute power and just need online.
[18:37] <IdleOne> !language | paul_
[18:37] <chamunks> reisio, I think its like about 3 consecutive wipes at least.
[18:37] <paul_> but its true)
[18:38] <reisio> chamunks: what you should really do is double check with the company that they care if you do more than a single pass of zeros, based on the fact that there is no evidence anything more is useful at all
[18:38] <AndroUser> That remark isn't helping me,  Paul_
[18:38] <reisio> nintet: mount /dev/foo /mnt/point
[18:38] <chamunks> reisio, theres dev/null then theres dev/random or whatever yes?
[18:38] <nintet> i did that, still no permissions
[18:38] <reisio> chamunks: and urandom
[18:39] <mojtaba> reisio: any idea?
[18:39] <reisio> chamunks: the random ones take _much_ longer
[18:39] <AndroUser> So how do I force keyboard redetection? As a temp solution
[18:39] <paul_> 12.04 help you)
[18:39] <reisio> mojtaba: it's quite hard to believe<EMAIL_ADDRESS>was generated by any other values from the lines you pasted
[18:39] <chamunks> reisio, technically if we just did a DD script via bash that would do a tripple pass a zero a random and a zero
[18:39] <reisio> mojtaba: so you're probably leaving something out
[18:39] <chamunks> that would technically destroy pretty much any hope in hell.
[18:40] <reisio> chamunks: just once with zeros will :p
[18:40] <reisio> unless they're SSDs
[18:40] <chamunks> reisio, thats what I said but according to the guy there thats not the case
[18:40] <spainvallecas> alguien de españa
[18:40] <reisio> then there's a potential for not 100% of everything to be lost
[18:40] <nintet> i dont understand this, i still do not have permissions to write files to my own disk!
[18:40] <reisio> chamunks: here at 'the company'?
[18:40] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I keep the hyperlink and remove the text from the spreadsheet?
[18:40] <reisio> chamunks: honestly, you'd save a lot of time by sitting him down and saying "dude... are you sure it's been proven this is worth spending the time on?"
[18:41] <chamunks> reisio, its a place called "The Working Center"
[18:41] <rafael_> Hello guys, I wonder if there is a terminal command to display information about a video file, eg width x height.
[18:41] <reisio> chamunks: the donater, or donateee?
[18:41] <reisio> rafael_: ffmpeg -i file
[18:41] <chamunks> the donater likely donated it knowing that they wont sell the drives without a wipe rather then sending it to a facility
[18:42] <reisio> rafael_: also midentify
[18:42] <reisio> rafael_: also ffprobe
[18:42] <reisio> chamunks: likely?
[18:42] <Infix> nintet: seeing as you use sudo to mount, I assume you haven't added the mount to your fstab file
[18:42] <paul_> i kill Mark Austronaut,now i sad
[18:42] <ubuntology> Hi everyone, I've installed ubuntu server on an old PC, and making it a local web server using nginx, and making some pages to control some stuff. My question is: is it possible to run a bash script on the server from a php script?
[18:42] <reisio> it's a huge waste of time for what sounds like some really vague requirements you're talking about
[18:42] <reisio> paul_: awe
[18:42] <chamunks> reisio, its not really my project i'm not heavily involved I just figured there had to be a better way and my curiosity forced me into this irc channel :P
[18:42] <reisio> ubuntology: course
[18:42] <nintet> Infix, i dont know that much about linux
[18:42] <reisio> chamunks: okay, so theoretically
[18:42] <rafael_> reisio: thank you
[18:42] <chamunks> I had a 2 minute conversation about the topic is all.
[18:43] <chamunks> im just fitting within the proposed constraints.
[18:43] <Infix> nintet: You must specify a UID and GID (user) when mounting manually
[18:43] <ubuntology> reisio: how exactly is that?
[18:43] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I keep the hyperlink and remove the text from the spreadsheet?
[18:43] <chamunks> it may/maynot be sane and I proposed the same questions you are but he protested so I wont argue.
[18:43] <ubuntology> reisio: and is it theoretically possible to invoke a shutdown -P now on the server command using a simple web page that is designed for that?
[18:43] <nintet> is there a way i can get it to just mount automatic on startup or something, i just want to backup files from other disks to it
[18:43] <reisio> ubuntology: ask #nginx
[18:44] <Kitt3n> How can I install the 13.6 graphics beta drivers from AMD without corrupting my desktop?
[18:44] <reisio> ubuntology: yes of course
[18:44] <reisio> ubuntology: combined with sudo
[18:44] <chamunks> disk wipes were proposed back when there was much lower data density on platters where a single wipe really wasnt that effective afaik idk.
[18:44] <reisio> ubuntology: or suexec, etc.
[18:44] <reisio> for example: http://cyrilmazur.com/2010/09/suexec-behaviour-with-nginx.html
[18:44] <Infix> nintet: Check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab for info on that
[18:45] <ubuntology> thanks a lot reisio, now I'm relaxed that it IS possible, its time for me to learn how. Thanks guys :)
[18:45] <mojtaba> reisio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5790434/
[18:45] <reisio> ubuntology: yeah, just details
[18:45] <reisio> ubuntology: I've only done that sort of thing with Apache so far, need to update my magicks
[18:45] <ripplebit> guys when i try to open a .sh file, (just by typing filename.sh), i get "comannd not found"
[18:46] <reisio> chamunks: yeah, a long time ago
[18:46] <Fuchs> ripplebit: for executing it:  chmod +x  it, then  ./filename.sh
[18:46] <reisio> chamunks: the dod standards seem not simple to find, though
[18:46] <Fuchs> ripplebit: to open, as in read it: just open it with a text editor
[18:46] <ripplebit> Fuchs: as in to run
[18:46] <chamunks> reisio, I just figure dban may take a century or be incompatible.
[18:46] <Fuchs> ripplebit: in order to be able to run commands by just typing the name, they have to be in a folder defined in the $PATH variable  (echo $PATH)
[18:46] <reisio> chamunks: I'm assuming three wipes with random data will satisfy any 3-pass requirement fully, however
[18:46] <mojtaba> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5790434/
[18:46] <Fuchs> ripplebit: chmod +x filename.sh;  ./filename.sh     (when you are in the directory containing that file)
[18:46] <reisio> chamunks: it'll probably work, but it's going to be a huge waste of time
[18:47] <Fuchs> ripplebit: only run things you trust
[18:47] <chamunks> reisio, i agree.
[18:47] <reisio> mojtaba: you haven't given enough information
[18:47] <ripplebit> Fuchs: it's the racket download. do i need to move it to a dir in $PATH?
[18:47] <mojtaba> reisio: what about http://paste.ubuntu.com/5790434/
[18:47] <Fuchs> ripplebit: I don't know what that is, but probably you can run it from anywhere with  ./filename.sh
[18:47] <chamunks> reisio, although apparently CSIS pulled a bunch of drives from a dumpster that were drillpressed and reconstructed all data.
[18:48] <reisio> chamunks: sometimes I myself say "okay they asked for FOO, and that's stupid but they asked for it so I'm going to do it"
[18:48] <ubuntology> تحياتي مجتبى
[18:48] <reisio> but realistically, it's better to educate them and not waste your own time
[18:48] <Fuchs> ripplebit: I assume it has a README, INSTALL or other sort of documentation somewhere, you might want to read that probably
[18:48] <paul_> at 13.04 even conky not work,& i cry)
[18:48] <reisio> chamunks: yeah right :p
[18:48] <haylo> hey, can i enable persistence on the standard install iso ? maybe with a    "persistence" boot paramter like in a normal debian live type image
[18:48] <reisio> mojtaba: you haven't given enough information
[18:48] <ripplebit> Fuchs: it's a scheme family language, but when i try ./racket.sh, i still get the error: command not found
[18:48] <mojtaba> ubuntology: ?
[18:48] <reisio> haylo: yes, with various tools, or manually
[18:49] <Fuchs> ripplebit: are you in the correct directory, and it is executable?
[18:49] <Fuchs> ripplebit: if you aren't in the right directory: change dir to it  (cd /my/directory/containing/that/file/)
[18:49] <mojtaba> reisio: What do you want to know?
[18:49] <Fuchs> if you are, but it's not executable:  chmod +x thatfile.sh
[18:49] <chamunks> reisio, lol fair enough.  Well we will see a DD might be a good idea if we ran that with a bash script that might work much more effectively then dban or not idk who knows.
[18:49] <reisio> mojtaba: I can help you, but you can't omit information
[18:49] <ubuntology> nothing, mojtaba. just being friendly :) I've got no answer for your question, unfortunately
[18:49] <paul_> im banned?)
[18:50] <reisio> chamunks: single pass of zeros, with a decent bs will not take very long
[18:50] <chamunks> reisio, tbh i really aint got time for that.  I just go there on occassion and like to throw in a bit of help here and there.
[18:50] <mojtaba> reisio: ?? Do you want the real email?
[18:50] <turborob> exit
[18:50] <chamunks> reisio, decent bs?
[18:50] <reisio> chamunks: yeah, I wipe drives I recycle to places like that, with a single pass of zeros
[18:50] <ripplebit> Fuchs: brilliant, all it needed was to change permissions. thanks
[18:50] <reisio> as a courtesy
[18:50] <Fuchs> ripplebit: you're welcome :)
[18:50] <reisio> chamunks: man dd, bs=
[18:50] <reisio> chamunks: it's basically how many bytes it will try to write at once
[18:50] <haylo> reisio: is there something i could dl that is preferable? i usually am all bare bones console, but i need network managers ability to make a laptop share wireless with my ethernet based machines easily
[18:51] <chamunks> reisio, yeah I managed to pull alot of crap off of a drive I Never thought I'd see again when I did a recovery a while back.
[18:51] <chamunks> reisio, ah ok I still dont know much about DD its a really old very ... not noob friendly thing.
[18:51] <reisio> haylo: hrmm?
[18:51] <nintet> how do i manually add my partition to fstab?
[18:51] <AndroUser> Guys,  my usb keyboard is not being redetected after disconnecting it.  How do I force it without reboot?  Lsusb - v gets stuck listing some Standard Microsystems Corp.  Device....
[18:51] <reisio> chamunks: just remember to be sure the of= value is correct :p
[18:51] <chamunks> reisio, its one of those old tools that are wildly useful but were made for the days when most people were super huge into linux and knew how everything worked.  I'm not quite there yet.
[18:51] <alexa> Is it safe to use TOR Browser from Ubuntu installed in Virtual Box?
[18:51] <reisio> nintet: with a text editor
[18:52] <reisio> alexa: safe, sure
[18:52] <reisio> alexa: also probably a waste of time
[18:52] <chamunks> reisio, this wouldn't be run on a machine that had any valueable data anyways so any destruction would be good destruction :P
[18:52] <alexa> why?
[18:52] <reisio> chamunks: yeah you aren't kidding, the author of GNU dd was in ##linux one day and he'd forgotten its params
[18:52] <mojtaba> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5790434/
[18:52] <alexa> I use TOR to bypass time of possible downloads for free users on some sites.
[18:52] <alexa> and it works
[18:52] <alexa> but I've heard it could be malicious
[18:53] <reisio> alexa: what, tor?
[18:53] <alexa> so I decided to use VM as a sandbox
[18:53] <reisio> it's open source, if it's malicious you can see for yourself
[18:53] <alexa> YES, Top
[18:53] <reisio> waste of time
[18:53] <yarmouk> guys I am trying to install my video card driver, I've downloaded the package from this link http://packages.altlinux.org/en/Platform5/srpms/xorg-drv-sis671 and searched about how to install  it, but the files in the instruction are different
[18:53] <alexa> why is it the waste of time?
[18:53] <haylo> chamunks: just experiment with it as non sudo user. making image files. "dd if=/dev/zero of=my_new_disk_image bs=10M count=10"
[18:54] <chamunks> reisio, lol yeah seems like one of those tools that are just great when you need it.
[18:54] <mojtaba> hello?
[18:54] <chamunks> haylo, its cool I'm just mainly inquiring right now Im not in the headspace to play with it just yet.
[18:54] <mojtaba> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5790434/
[18:54] <haylo> understood
[18:54] <chamunks> haylo, tyvm though :)
[18:55] <ibere_SP> hi there. I've installed Lubuntu 12.10 in my Athlon XP 1800+. I was running sudo apt-get udpate and after that sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. In the middle of some update, I lost the internet connection. System hang up. I rebooted, sudo apt-get clean and sudo dpkg-reconfigure -all. But system seems frozen, but HDD light is working for more than 1 hour... any clues?
[18:56] <jrib> ibere_SP: you don't want to reconfigure all of your packages
[18:56] <yarmouk> guy I need help in compiling video card driver sources
[18:56] <yarmouk> guys*
[18:56] <mojtaba> reisio: ?
[18:56] <reisio> mojtaba: hi
[18:56] <yarmouk> can't find the ./configure file
[18:56] <mojtaba> reisio: Hi, What information is omited?
[18:56] <jrib> ibere_SP: you probably meant to do "dpkg --configure -a" which configures packages that are pending
[18:56] <reisio> yarmouk: what package?
[18:56] <rickb> hello, just lookin for some relatedish info.. anyone ever manually generated their webalizer logs? any idea how long this generally takes?
[18:56] <jrib> !nvidia | yarmouk
[18:56] <reisio> mojtaba: I don't know, but it's omitted just the same
[18:57] <ska> How can i surpress messages to dmesg: :[drm:atom_get_src_int] *ERROR* ATOM: fb read beyond scratch region:
[18:57] <ska> ???
[18:57] <ibere_SP> jrib, i tried that before, but got the same error messages with dependencies.
[18:57] <mojtaba> reisio: You don't know???!!!!
[18:57] <jrib> ibere_SP: you should pastebin the error messages
[18:57] <yarmouk> reisio, http://packages.altlinux.org/en/Platform5/srpms/xorg-drv-sis671 this one
[18:57] <reisio> mojtaba: no I don't know, you've omitted it
[18:57] <jrib> ibere_SP: include input commands too
[18:57] <mojtaba> reisio: What do you want to know?
[18:57] <yarmouk> reisio, jrib sis671
[18:58] <ibere_SP> jrib, the other system looks frozen... but HDD light is working for more than 1 hour. should i reboot?
[18:58] <jrib> ibere_SP: I'm confused.  There are two systems?
[18:59] <ibere_SP> jrib, i'm talking to you on my laptop. it's working fine. the problem is with lubuntu 12.10 at my desktop.
[18:59] <haylo> normall install CD has option for booting to gnome desktop right ?
[18:59] <reisio> yarmouk: doesn't necessarily need to be a configure file
[18:59] <haylo> i dont want to dl the wrong thing :P
[18:59] <jrib> ibere_SP: but you said you tried dpkg --configure -a and then tried something else?  What exactly did you do?
[18:59] <reisio> mojtaba: it's not what I want to know, it's what you have to provide for anyone to help you
[18:59] <reisio> haylo: out of what choices?
[19:00] <mojtaba> reisio: That is all the information, there is nothing more than this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5790434/
[19:00] <yarmouk> reisio, so where should i start the package does not contain installation instructions in readme file
[19:00] <reisio> mojtaba: there's no such thing as hidden text
[19:00] <yarmouk> here is the ls output
[19:00] <yarmouk> ls
[19:00] <yarmouk> autogen.sh  config.log        copying  Makefile     readme       stamp-h1
[19:00] <yarmouk> ChangeLog   configure.ac      debian   Makefile.am  README.sgml
[19:00] <yarmouk> config.h    configure.lineno  libtool  man
[19:00] <FloodBot1> yarmouk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:00] <nintet> i edited fstab manually and i still do not have permissions to copy files to it
[19:01] <ibere_SP> jrib, installed fresh lubuntu 12.10 and no problems. sudo apt-get update. sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. lost internet connection in the middle of something. system hang up. i rebooted. sudo apt-get clean. sudo dpkg --configure -a. lot's of error messages
[19:01] <reisio> yarmouk: configure, make, make install
[19:02] <ibere_SP> jrib, then i decided to try sudo dpkg-reconfigure --all. it's working for more than 1 hour now.
[19:02] <yarmouk> reisio, I will try and come back
[19:03] <haylo> normal install image, can boot into a live desktop correct ?
[19:03] <ibere_SP> jrib, should it last more than 1 hour?
[19:03] <yarmouk> reisio, it doesn't work i get the following  bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[19:03] <ripplebit> guys chrome is having trouble pal]
[19:03] <ripplebit> guys chrome is having trouble playing some videos on youtube
[19:03] <nintet> what should my fstab entry for that disk look like?
[19:04] <yarmouk> reisio,  and here is the ls output http://paste.ubuntu.com/5790475/
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> nintet, There are ubuntu wiki's on fstab
[19:04] <nintet> i was just on it
[19:04] <nintet> and i did everything they talked about and it does not work
[19:05] <reisio> yarmouk: ask ##linux what to do with configure.ac
[19:05] <nintet> the disk mounts in the folder and i cant copy files to it
[19:05] <yarmouk> reisio, thanx mate
[19:05] <gordonjcp> yarmouk: there's not a script called "autogen.sh" or anything is there?
[19:05] <yva> holstein, I tried a livecd for my problem with global menu and it works with the live cd. I checked the version nubers for the appmenu install and there are the same on the live cd and install
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> nintet, pastebin your fstab and post it you will probably get help then.
[19:06] <ripplebit> anyone know why chromium can't play some youtube videos?
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin > nintet
[19:06] <nintet> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5790495/
[19:07] <dsan> I have a shitty graphical card, which one is better in GUI performance lubuntu or xubuntu?
[19:07] <reisio> ripplebit: which one?
[19:07] <ibere_SP> jrib, thank you for your help so far. need to to log off. be back later.:)
[19:07] <ripplebit> reisio: Version 25.0.1364.160 Ubuntu 13.04 (25.0.1364.160-0ubuntu3)
[19:08] <dsan> I mean xubuntu-desktop or lubuntu-desktop?
[19:08] <Guest14223> Hello anyone know whether its safe to insatll ubuntu on the Samsung Series 7 17.3 model no. NP700Z7C?
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> dsan, The chanell does not allow swearing
[19:09] <ripplebit> reisio: when i uninstall/re-install, it seems to work for a bit, then breaks again
[19:09] <reisio> ripplebit: sorry, which youtube video
[19:10] <Guest14223> anyone :(
[19:10] <reisio> Guest14223: safe?
[19:10] <Guest14223> yeah there have been issues with the uefi
[19:11] <Guest14223> causing the laptop to get bricked
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> !uefi > Guest14223
[19:11] <ripplebit> reisio: it depends. Some work, some dont. I imagine it may have something to do with incompatible formats, although im not sure how to test that theory
[19:11] <reisio> Guest14223: why ask a question you know the answer to
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> Guest14223, Not sure if you have seen that link.
[19:11] <Guest14223> yeah i saw it
[19:12] <nintet> what is the normal way to make a new linux partition and then add it to the system?
[19:12] <nintet> i used Gparted
[19:12] <Guest14223> i read that you can reinstall windows 8 with the bios option
[19:12] <Guest14223> instead of uefi but is it still safe?
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> Guest14223, So a ubuntu install bricked the computer that you did or just info on the web?
[19:14] <DylanCl> So, I bought the laptop I'm on a year ago now, a month ago I smashed my screen by dropping it on the floor. I could still see a bit of the screen but since I used a second monitor, it didn't really matter. I had Ubuntu and Windows. I sent my laptop to a very good friend of me to fix the screen, he did, but he deleted Windows because it had the blue screen error. Now I'm stuck with Ubuntu and I really want to go back to Windows. When I do
[19:15] <ofhs> Is it possible to make my USB mic work if there's no linux drivers for it?
[19:15] <Guest14223> wilee-nilee, i have read about it on the internet and its a big issue with this model
[19:15] <yarmouk> reisio, can't post in ##linux
[19:15] <A1Recon> Is there a way to check traffic over my router?
[19:15] <A1Recon> Wireshark??
[19:15] <ofhs> The sound options recognizes it as an "input" and it apparently percieves volume in it (when i breathe into it the volume bar goes up http://i.imgur.com/W7s1uMM.png )
[19:16] <ofhs> But I can't get it to work with Skype or any other voice recorder.
[19:16] <ofhs> Anyone able to help?
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> Guest14223, Check the date of this info, there was manufacturers tweaked UEFI that caused problems, I believe it has been remedied.
[19:16] <yarmouk> A1Recon, not sure but I read once that DDWRT can help in that
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> A manufacture*
[19:17] <kostkon> ofhs, have you set it as the default input device in your sound prefs?
[19:17] <ofhs> Yeah
[19:17] <ofhs> It's the only input device
[19:18] <Guest14223> wilee-nilee, yeah I called samsung and they said that they haven't fixed it.  The issue page for ubunu said that it has been fixed but im just worried that installing it will brick my laptop.
[19:18] <kostkon> ofhs, then what's the problem exactly
[19:18] <ofhs> kostkon: It doesn't work with Skype or anything else
[19:19] <ofhs> kostkon: Also, when I close the sound manager and reopen it, it doesn't seem to recognize when I talk into it anymore
[19:19] <kostkon> ofhs, have you test it in skype?
[19:19] <ofhs> Yeah, it doesn't work/
[19:20] <dsan> I have AMD E2-3200 APU graphic card and having trouble with ubuntu's unity. could anyone tell me if I need xubuntu-desktop or lubuntu-desktop to get a better GUI performance?
[19:20] <kostkon> ofhs, hmm
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> Guest14223, Understandable caution, I doubt this channel will get you a definitive answer though.
[19:22] <kostkon> ofhs, the strange thing why is the only input device. where's the mic of your sound card
[19:22] <kostkon> damn
[19:22] <compdoc> dsan, have you tried installing the latest amd drivers?
[19:22] <kostkon> ofhs, pressed enter too soo. the strange thing is that it's the only input device
[19:22] <Guest14223> wilee-nilee, yeah thanks for your time though. Do you know of any channel that could help?
[19:23] <ofhs> kostkon: I dunno, nothing else shows up, so it could just be hidden on the list?
[19:24] <kostkon> ofhs, hmm. you could check the output of  aplay -l
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> Guest14223, I can't think of any the problem in general has a small signature in the sense of how many people have run into this. I would start a thread at the ubuntu forums for feedback.
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> as well anyway
[19:25] <Guest14223> wilee-nilee, alright thanks!
[19:25] <kostkon> ofhs, you could also reset your pulseaudio and see if that will sort it out, by that i mean make your onboard mic to appear
[19:25] <ofhs> kostkon: This is the result of that http://pastebin.com/N1J1K5m6
[19:25] <dsan> compdoc, it had radeon driver (3.5 kernel), then I installed fglrx, but the desktop is still slow. do you have any suggestion to increase graphic card's performance?
[19:25] <ofhs> How do I reset my pulseaudio?
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> Guest14223, Good luck, you could go virtual in the mean time just to have the OS.
[19:25] <kostkon> ofhs, if you want to consider that option, then you'll need to delete your ~/.pulse folder, logout and log back in
[19:26] <kostkon> ofhs, are you on a laptop
[19:27] <ofhs> kostkon: Nope
[19:28] <nintet> here i am asking you guys about simple commands won't work on my system and i dont even have python installed
[19:28] <kostkon> ofhs, desktop with an onboard sound card, which i assume you havent disabled
[19:28] <nintet> Xubuntu is really stripped down
[19:28] <Slendermang> Hi, could anyone help me out? I'm have a 2nd HDD that im trying to get it to automount. I cant set permissions on it for my other pcs to access files as I assume it is because of the fuseblk filesystem it has currently.
[19:28] <nintet> Slendermang, same exact problem here
[19:29] <dsan> is it correct command to remove unity on 12.10 "sudo apt-get remove unity unity-2d unity-2d-panel unity-2d-spread unity-asset-pool unity-services unity-lens-files unity-lens-music unity-lens-applications gir1.2-unity-5.0 unity-common indicator-sound indicator-power indicator-appmenu libindicator7 indicator-application indicator-datetime indicator-messages libnux-2.0-0 nux-tools libunity-misc4 unity-2d-common"
[19:29] <reisio> Slendermang: chown -R user:user /mnt/pnt
[19:30] <dunhamds> I downloaded a plugin for google audio and video calls but the bin file, whin I click on it, does nothing. Can anyone help make sense of this for a total n00b?
[19:30] <reisio> dunhamds: running from a terminal might yield more information
[19:31] <crond> dunhamds, chmod +x the plugin, then ./blah_plugin.bin from terminal
[19:31] <dunhamds> reisio.. I'm not even sure what that means :/
[19:31] <Slendermang> Reisio, I already have permissions to acess files/folders but I can't seem to give other usergroups permissions
[19:32] <Slendermang> The drive doesnt automatically mount on launch and such I dont think I can give other computers/usergroups permissions without having it do so
[19:32] <Slendermang> I was wondering on how the fstab should be propperly written for a 2nd drive as its kind of overwhelming for me, never used Linux prior
[19:33] <ofhs> kostkon: So is my best bet to try resetting my pulseaudio thing then?
[19:33] <reisio> Slendermang: same as first, only ending in 0 0
[19:34] <Slendermang> reisio, Ok I'll give that a try thanks :)
[19:35] <reisio> man fstab has the details
[19:36] <eowyn113> hi
[19:37] <eowyn113> I'm running on xubuntu, my mouse doesn't work and I don't find my xorg.conf
[19:37] <reisio> hi baby
[19:37] <reisio> eowyn113: xorg.conf isn't usually present by default anymore
[19:37] <reisio> eowyn113: is it a mouse or a touchpad?
[19:38] <eowyn113> a mouse. pc desktop
[19:38] <reisio> eowyn113: usb?
[19:38] <eowyn113> yes
[19:38] <reisio> try another port?
[19:39] <eowyn113> yes. when bios is running the light is on nd it goes off when xubuntu is booting
[19:40] <reisio> this is xubuntu 12?
[19:40] <eowyn113> yes xubuntu 12 lts
[19:40] <reisio> what kind of keyboard layout?
[19:42] <eowyn113> layout = how it's connected to computer ?
[19:42] <reisio> eowyn113: no, like where the keys are
[19:43] <eowyn113> azerty french
[19:43] <nintet> i cant mount any disks with read write permissions and i need help!!
[19:43] <nintet> Xubuntu 12.04
[19:44] <nintet> i have looked over this thread for the last hour http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[19:44] <reisio> eowyn113: I'd probably guess some keyboard layout mismatch first
[19:44] <reisio> eowyn113: perhaps #ubuntu-fr might have some clues
[19:44] <yva> Nobody to help with the globalmenu selectively not working?
[19:45] <eowyn113>  #ubuntu-fr is kinda dead. maybe on forum
[19:46] <reisio> maybe
[19:46] <reisio> it's Saturday :)
[19:46] <Slendermang> I just tried to mount the drive and got this, "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try        dmesg | tail  or so" The filesystem for the drive is HPFS/NTFS/exFAT, what should the type option be in fstab?
[19:47] <Slendermang> I believe ntfs-3g ?
[19:48] <Slendermang> Yep that worked, awnsered my own question. Thanks for the help earlier reisio
[19:50] <morning> Running Precise, I have my sys.log and kern.log filling up to gigabyte sizes. (Seems to be this issue or one like it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/883646.) But -- the present problem -- I've deleted both those files, but the space doesn't seem reclaimed. I assume they're hiding somewhere, but I can't find them. So my system has 0 space left. What can I do?
[19:52] <wheatthin> morning, you can use logrotate to manage them
[19:52] <morning> Whetthin: How do I do that?
[19:53] <vasil4> I'm looking for hire for btc someone who'll make a customized set up
[19:54] <wheatthin> morning, sudo apt-get install logrotate
[19:54] <morning> whetthin: Thank you. Will try.
[19:54] <rudy-993> Hello everybody
[19:56] <morning> wheatthin: Meanwhile, though, I'm out of space. I'm thinking those files I deleted must still be hidden somewhere. Wil logrotate help me with that too?
[19:56] <wheatthin> rudy-993, did you have a question?
[19:56] <wheatthin> morning, well you can cd /var/log and ls -lh to see which ones are largest
[19:57] <morning> wheatthin: Thank you. Will try.
[19:57] <morning> gopis108
[19:58] <rudy-993> weatthin i just wanted to introduce myself
[19:58] <mojtaba> reisio: I found the answer
[19:58] <anonnumberanon> if some of you can remember I tried to install on a no-usb-boot machine yesterday. I bought RW DVDs today and will try that now.
[19:58] <mojtaba> reisio: If you want to know also
[19:58] <mojtaba>  grep -E -o<EMAIL_ADDRESS>filename.txt
[19:58] <wheatthin> rudy-993, no need.. this is for support.. if you wanna chat, go here #ubuntu-offtopic  they'll more than welcome the chat as long as it's g rated ;)
[19:59] <rudy-993> ok, sorry for disturbing
[19:59] <anonnumberanon> And I have a quick question about burning speeds for install DVD. Should I be concerned about them? Will be burning this 4X DVD from a Thinkpad T420..
[19:59] <wheatthin> rudy-993, not disturbing at all.. it's just people are picky about offtopic conversations
[20:00] <morning> weatthin: Apt-get says I already have the latest version of logrotate installed. ls -lh shows a new syslog of reasonable size and no kernel.log.
[20:01] <wheatthin> morning, did you go into /var/log and see which ones are the large ones?
[20:02] <morning> weaththin: Yes, there are no large ones. Sys.log and kernel.logo used to be 4 GB each, but I deleted them.
[20:02] <wheatthin> morning, alrighty, well in /etc/logrotate, I believe you can set a size limit or how often to rotate them
[20:03] <brian_petersen> How do I remove the application grouping in the alt+tab switcher?
[20:03] <wheatthin> brian_petersen, is this gnome 3?
[20:04] <brian_petersen> wheatthin: unity
[20:05] <wheatthin> hmm
[20:05] <morning> weaththin: Unclear how to do that. (I'm not very techy.) The help mentions an option "-f, --force" but doesn't say more on how to use them (and indicates a <configfile>).
[20:06] <wheatthin> brian_petersen, http://askubuntu.com/questions/218589/disable-alt-tab-switcher-grouping-by-script-or-command   check that out
[20:06] <aamer> hello room im having a problem with deluge, and the deluge room is almost dead. can anyone help me?
[20:07] <wheatthin> morning, using sudo gedit /etc/logrotate  will open an editor with root privs to edit the config file
[20:07] <wheatthin> !ask | aamer
[20:09] <wheatthin> brian_petersen, compiz manager options will also help disable it i believe
[20:09] <aamer> ubottu wheatthin sorry for this one but I really suffered from talking to myself for more than 24 hours, so sorry again but I had to, anyway now I'm trying to run deluged (daemon) and I followed this tutorial http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/UserGuide/InitScript/Ubuntu%2011.04%2B%20%28Upstart%20Job%29
[20:10] <aamer> well ubottu bots are becoming a lot more intelligent than many people.
[20:10] <wheatthin> aamer, cause people program them ;0
[20:10] <brian_petersen> wheatthin: Yeah, I am looking through the ccsm right now, I am trying to figure out where to enable the static switcher, but I have yet to find it. I think it's hidden or disabled by default.
[20:10] <aamer> ubottu you guessed, I'm angry
[20:11] <syntroPi> lol
[20:11] <aamer> wheatthin cuz people program them when they're not mad (like I am now)
[20:11] <aamer> ubottu shutdown
[20:11] <wheatthin> aamer, can you see if deluge is in /etc/init.d
[20:13] <aamer> wheatthin it's not there
[20:15] <syntroPi> he is using upstart so its  /etc/init/deluged.conf
[20:15] <wheatthin> aamer, that tutorial describes how to start it and put it in the startup
[20:15] <wheatthin> ahh my bad
[20:15] <aamer> wheatthin it shouldn't be there
[20:15] <aamer> yes wheatthin
[20:15] <aamer> wheatthin I followed the tutorial
[20:15] <aamer> now I can't get to the web ui
[20:16] <aamer> although i could in the beginning
[20:16] <syntroPi> aamer,  would be helpfull if you could describe a problem at least once
[20:16] <aamer> I don't understand what I'm doing
[20:16] <Magicarp> The window manager still loads but Unity has stopped. Here is my XSession error log http://pastebin.com/MpMP0gDj
[20:17] <aamer> syntroPi I can't reach the web ui, and i don't know whether the process is running or not, totally lost
[20:17] <wheatthin> aamer, ps aux | grep deluge
[20:19] <aamer> wheatthin just please let me understand this step, deluged with d is the daemon name so why should I type deluge?
[20:19] <morning> weatthin: Okay, I see a sample config file at http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man8/logrotate.8.html. I assume what I should do is add two entries, one for kern.log and the other for sys.log. And for options I've put  "rotate 2," "daily" and "size 100k," followed by "postrotate" and (next line) " /usr/bin/killall -HUP syslogd". Does this seem right?
[20:19] <syntroPi> because its a substring then
[20:19] <syntroPi> aamer does it show anything running
[20:19] <wheatthin> aamer, because you're asking to see what running processes
[20:20] <wheatthin> in this incident, deluge or deluged
[20:20] <stef1a> Somehow Unity broke under 13.04 for me. I've almost got it working again -- my remaining problem is that Dash and the tool-bar don't show, and I can
[20:20] <wheatthin> morning, rgr :)
[20:20] <aamer> root@ubesktop:/etc/init.d# ps aux | grep deluge
[20:20] <stef1a> 't cycle between windows with alt + tab. Also, in ccsm, when I enable Ubuntu Unity Plugin, the next time I run ccsm, it's automatically disabled.
[20:20] <aamer> deluge    1606  2.1  0.4  50232 15796 ?        Ssl  22:26   1:10 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/deluged -d -l /var/log/deluge/daemon.log -L warning
[20:20] <aamer> root      4020  0.0  0.0   4388   808 pts/3    S+   23:20   0:00 grep --color=auto deluge
[20:21] <wheatthin> aamer, see, it's running
[20:21] <wheatthin> aamer, to see what it's doing check /var/log/delug/daemon.log
[20:21] <wheatthin> /var/log/deluge/daemon.log
[20:21] <morning> wheatthin: Okay. Will try this. Thank you very much for your help!
[20:21] <Magicarp> stef1a I'm having issues with unity on raring too. Everything was fine until two days ago when some packages got updated
[20:22] <stef1a> Magicarp: same exact thing happened to me. Everything was working fine until ~two days ago.
[20:22] <aamer> OMG I did this many times it has nothing to do with the problem
[20:22] <syntroPi> aamer, what does "sudo  netstat -lptu | grep 1606" show you?
[20:22] <aamer> [WARNING ] 22:26:49 torrentmanager:630 Unable to update state file to a compatible version: list index out of range
[20:22] <wheatthin> aamer, in the config file does it state whether or not the webui is running/
[20:22] <aamer> [WARNING ] 22:26:49 torrentmanager:733 Unable to load fastresume file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/lib/deluge/.config/del$
[20:23] <stef1a> anyone know why Unity stopped working in 13.04, and why ccsm doesn't allow Ubuntu Unity Plugin to be enabled?
[20:23] <morning> Weatthin: Oh, but one more thing: I still have no space. I assume the problem is that my previously deleted sys.log and kern.log are still lurking somewhere unseen. How to find and get rid of them?
[20:23] <aamer> Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]...
[20:23] <aamer> Try `grep --help' for more information.
[20:25] <syntroPi> aamer sure you typed that correctly?
[20:25] <Guest73575> hi any chance any one could point me in the right direction ? ..... im looking to extend my desktop but i can only mirror it on ubuntu studio, any help would be grand
[20:25] <wheatthin> morning, here's the syntax http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/find-large-files-linux/
[20:25] <aamer> wheatthin what config file
[20:25] <syntroPi> aamer                                sudo netstat -lptu | grep 1606
[20:25] <morning> weatthin: Thank you.
[20:26] <michael87> I'm tryying to find some colored windows themes for ubuntu other then light grey, dark grey, black, and various blue for gtk3. I've tried metacity themes and emerald but they leg ubuntu 13.04 or at least in live mode. Please help
[20:26] <brian_petersen> I installed the tint2 package and I am trying to run tint2conf, but it says to install the tint2 package to get that binary. Anybody know how to get that particular binary?
[20:26] <michael87> I am the colored a day type person. red, blue, and green
[20:26] <syntroPi> aamer, that should show you the open ports of PID 1606 which seems to be your deluged (seen in ps -aux | grep deluge)
[20:27] <Magicarp> Unity has suddenly stopped working although the window manger still does. Here is my XSession error log http://pastebin.com/MpMP0gDj
[20:28] <aamer> syntroPi ok should i paste that here?
[20:28] <MadsRC> I have disabled recursive DNS for my bind DNS server, but then my clients can't resolve domains anymore. Shouldn't the Ubuntu BIND9 package enable iterative dns when recursion is disabled?
[20:28] <wheatthin> aamer, use pastebin
[20:29] <syntroPi> aamer your deluged gets a different pid everytime you stop and start it : so if you havent stopped it meanwhile copy and paste that in a terminal and see which port is open
[20:29] <anonnumberanon> http://www.wikihow.com/Burn-ISO-Files-to-DVD
[20:29] <aamer> syntroPi I got a few ports open but this has nothing to do with the web ui
[20:29] <wheatthin> anonnumberanon, may we help you?
[20:30] <syntroPi> aamer which ports are open?
[20:30] <anonnumberanon> wheaties, too late
[20:36] <wheatthin> brb
[20:38] <benedikt> my ATI 5750 card is slower with both fglrx og fglrx-updates than with the radeon driver. is this common?
[20:38] <airtonix> aamer: read your messages here and peoples attempt to help you. 1. have you run deluge-web too ? 2. pastebin the contents of your /etc/init/deluge-web.conf 3. pastebin the output of sudo ls -al /var/lib/deluge
[20:39] <savio> Hi all
[20:39] <ethereal> hows it going
[20:39] <airtonix> aamer: have you tried stooping both the deluge daemn and the deluge web service? sudo service deluge-web stop && sudo service deluge-web start
[20:40] <airtonix> aamer: and finally my opinionated point of view is that if you
[20:41] <airtonix> aamer: 1. if you're not sure what you're doing you should follow the instructions very carefully 2. I wouldn't use torrents anyway.
[20:42] <Forty> Greetings.
[20:42] <anonnumberanon> YES! the laptop booted from DVD
[20:43] <Forty> How to convert a .bin file in a .run file? HPLIP
[20:43] <Forty> chmod -x?
[20:43] <Forty> no, its not.
[20:44] <Forty> How to convert a .bin file in a .run file?
[20:44] <anonnumberanon> proceedinh to play Zelda's theme song because best victory song.
[20:44] <benedikt> Forty: what are you trying to accomplish?
[20:44] <benedikt> do you have a .bin file that you want to execute (run)?
[20:45] <Forty> benedikt: Yes. I already did: bash ./file.bin. Happened that I got an error.
[20:45] <savio> ethereal: fine I guess :)
[20:46] <Forty> Was executed wrong. I would like to convert it to install HPLIP
[20:46] <Saiki> !jp
[20:46] <BluesKaj> fory there's no need to convert , just /nameof.bin in the terminal
[20:46] <Saiki> ok.. no one in there.. go figure.. lol
[20:47] <Saiki> anyone able to type in japanese, I'm missing a letter I can't find
[20:47] <DJones> Forty: Is there a reason you're not using the hplip in the repo's?
[20:48] <Forty> DJones: Don't work fomr me. I've a new HP printer. i need from the official website.
[20:48] <DJones> Forty: ok, was making sure, sometimes people don't realise its in the repo's, I had to do the same for my HP printer
[20:48] <_dual>  exit
[20:49] <BlueEagle> Forty: To make a file executable you need to `chmod a+x filename`
[20:49] <Forty> BlueEagle: Thank you.
[20:49] <BlueEagle> Forty: The parameter a indicates all and +x is add execution rights
[20:49] <Forty> Tryin'
[20:49] <BlueEagle> Forty: Fore more info: man chmod
[20:49] <Forty> BlueEagle: Ok.
[20:50] <BluesKaj> Forty, http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-execute-a-run-or-bin-file-in-ubuntu#.UcYNvKClc3g
[20:50] <Forty> BluesKaj: Thank you.
[20:51] <BluesKaj> Forty, np , hope it works for you
[20:57] <Kelsey_Belsey> I was wondering, what's a good editing program like photoshop? Nick119119 Sent me. Please and thank you.
[20:57] <clue_h> Gimp?
[20:57] <primeras> hi all. Sorry my English isn't very well. I want to use this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5
[20:58] <primeras> Is it safe?
[20:58] <Kelsey_Belsey> I've dealt with gimp, it's not as good as photoshop in my opinion.
[20:59] <clue_h> Photoshop is good, i think linux distros are catching up with photoediting etc though. Have you tried inkscape
[20:59] <clue_h> depends on what level of work you do
[20:59] <holstein> !ppa | primeras
[20:59] <Kelsey_Belsey> I'll give it a try. Thanks.
[20:59] <holstein> "good" is a matter of opinion.. the GIMP does what it does quite well
[21:00] <clue_h> True, I use gimp personally
[21:00] <Kelsey_Belsey> I mostly like, do anime pictures and change everything. Like hair, eyes, background. Everything. Even draw in things.
[21:00] <holstein> if you want or expect photoshop you should use it.. otherwise, you will surely be dissapointed, since only photoshop is photoshop
[21:01] <Kelsey_Belsey> Well, I mean, I guess I could try to make gimp better with my photoshop experience.
[21:01] <Kelsey_Belsey> I'm just use to all the photoshop stuff.
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> Kelsey_Belsey  I havent followed, are you a developer?
[21:01] <mchlbhm> I just installed Ubuntu 12.04.2 amd64, did dist-upgrade and tried to play a DVD. I selected movie player, but it didn't work. How could I fix this?
[21:02] <Kelsey_Belsey> I wanted to know a program on here that works like photoshop.
[21:02] <clue_h> You could it has tools that are similar, i've used both and filtering and with  layering is easy to transfer what you know
[21:02] <holstein> !dvd | mchlbhm
[21:02] <BlueEagle> mchlbhm: In what manner did it "not work"?
[21:02] <gordonjcp> Kelsey_Belsey: "works like" Photoshop would be Photoshop
[21:02] <Kelsey_Belsey> Well, I heard that it doesn't work on ubuntu.
[21:02] <gordonjcp> Kelsey_Belsey: nope
[21:03] <holstein> Kelsey_Belsey: photoshop is photoshop.. gimp is what folks use to do what you are mentioning.. try it.. its in the repos, and free of charge to try and use
[21:03] <gordonjcp> Kelsey_Belsey: there is a graphic editor calld gimp which has similar principles
[21:03] <mchlbhm> Movie player hung
[21:03] <gordonjcp> Kelsey_Belsey: there was a set of patches called "gimpshop" that tried to make the menus look like photoshop
[21:03] <Kelsey_Belsey> Well, I have used gimp in the past, then I upgraded to photoshop and never looked back.
[21:03] <Kelsey_Belsey> That would help a lot.
[21:03] <gordonjcp> that was a pretty stupid idea, and I think the project died
[21:04] <Forty> I'm running a bin file in the terminal and HPLIP setup ask me for the root's password. I put it and crash. Stop.
[21:05] <Kelsey_Belsey> Well, I heard from people that photoshop was better, and I think it is. But my knowledge of editing was very little when I had gimp and got better with photoshop.
[21:05] <gordonjcp> Kelsey_Belsey: for suitable values of "better"
[21:05] <gordonjcp> I prefer using gimp to photoshop because I don't know photoshop very well
[21:06] <gordonjcp> Kelsey_Belsey: frankly, if you want photoshop use photoshop, and buy a mac
[21:06] <gordonjcp> Kelsey_Belsey: there's no point going with anything else, if that's what you actually *need*
[21:06] <clue_h> I started with photoshop a while back from version 4, then i moved to linux and tried gimp and found i could do alot still, but it took some time to learn
[21:06] <Kelsey_Belsey> Well, I can get use to gimp again, it's not a problem.
[21:07] <Kelsey_Belsey> If I can't get it on here, I can manage.
[21:07] <Wobbo> Any tips? 'AMD Catalyst Control Center (Administrative)' won't work. I am using 'amdxdg-su -c amdcccle' true terminal, then i get a new terminal minal asking for my password. Then it doesn't matter if I put a richt password or not, that terminal wont show any AMD Catalyst... I have used the logical way, 'sudo amdcccle' but that won't save any installations or anything.
[21:08] <HeadcaseFargone> Hi all.  Any RAID experts happen to be around?
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> !ask | HeadcaseFargone
[21:09] <wheatthin> Wobbo, how'd you install the ati drivers?
[21:10] <BlueEagle> HeadcaseFargone: Software/hardware or hybrid raid?
[21:10] <HeadcaseFargone> I'm looking to upgrade from 11.04 to 12.04 but am currently running a software RAID5 array and have read many users having issues with arrays not building properly after an upgrade.  I was wondering if I simply ran 12.04 from a USB stick to test this, is there any danger to the integrity of the data on that array?
[21:11] <gordonjcp> HeadcaseFargone: not if you mount it read-only
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> HeadcaseFargone  you would have to go via 12.10
[21:12] <HeadcaseFargone> Why 12.10?
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> 11.10, even
[21:12] <BlueEagle> HeadcaseFargone: The raid should not need to be rebuilt. It does however depend on how you have set up the raid. You do want to generate a raid configuration file so that you do not rely on the auto configuration.
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> HeadcaseFargone  you cannot go directly from 11.04 to 12.04, or it must be a fresh install
[21:13] <HeadcaseFargone> I believe it's simply using the built-in Disk Utility.  It's been a while, but I remember running gparted at the command line and then doing something in the Disk Utility GUI.
[21:14] <BlueEagle> HeadcaseFargone: The safest thing in all cases is to refresh your backup set before altering the OS.
[21:14] <BlueEagle> HeadcaseFargone: If the data is irreplacable then RAID is no substitute for a good backup scheme.
[21:14] <HeadcaseFargone> I understand.  It wouldn't be the end of the world if I lost it, but it would suck a bit.
[21:14] <vivi> hi
[21:15] <HeadcaseFargone> Your raid configuration file sounds like what I'm looking for.  Looking into that now.
[21:16] <HeadcaseFargone> Is the configuration file generated through mdadm?
[21:16] <BlueEagle> HeadcaseFargone: https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID_setup#Saving_your_RAID_configuration
[21:17] <savio> Is it  possible to get kernel 3.5 for ubuntu 13.04
[21:17] <HeadcaseFargone> Excellent, thank you
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> savio  13.04 has 3.8, start from the beginning, why do you want 3.5, maybe there's a different solution for your issue
[21:22] <zham> Hello! How are you?
[21:23] <zham> I have a doubt, does have any good software/script that could help me to configure a new kernel for Ubuntu 13.04?
[21:24] <cgtdk> zham: Pleasantries are unnecessary
[21:24] <zham> cgtdk: Ok.
[21:25] <contrapunctus> ubottu - Ping
[21:25] <savio> MonkeyDust: changing brightness on my ubuntu laptop system freezes
[21:25] <zham> cgtdk: So... do u know any sw/script that help to config a kernel?
[21:26] <Wobbo> I installed it using the ubuntu 'Software & Updates' thing. \
[21:26] <cgtdk> zham: I don't know much about anything, sorry
[21:26] <zham> cgtdk: Ok, no problem.
[21:27] <MonkeyDust> Wobbo  define 'it'
[21:27] <savio> Its solved acpi_backlight=vendor solved my problem on quental kernel but its not working with raring kernel
[21:28] <deanclkclk> hello folks..having an issue with ubuntu running sudo su
[21:28] <HeadcaseFargone> BlueEagle   From what I'm reading mdadm.conf is automatically generated when you create an array, and that file does indeed exist in /etc/mdadm/ but editing it it doesn't appear to really contain any information about my array.
[21:28] <deanclkclk> -> /etc/sudoers: /etc/sudoers.d too many open files near line 29
[21:28] <deanclkclk> no valid sudoers sources found, quitting. unable to initialize policy plugin
[21:28] <HeadcaseFargone> No device information or anything.  Do I need to manually run the command to generate it?
[21:29] <zykotick9> deanclkclk: don't do "sudo su"!  use "sudo -i" if you _must_ (and you probably don't)
[21:29] <Flannel> deanclkclk: Have you manually edited your sudoers file (recently)?
[21:30] <deanclkclk> zykotick9: I am trying to do a nano .desktop and save it
[21:30] <deanclkclk> it seems I need to be root user to do it
[21:30] <deanclkclk> Flannel: no
[21:30] <wheatthin> dean, use sudo nano .desktop
[21:30] <ethereal> installing ubuntu on parallels 7, wish me luck
[21:30] <Flannel> deanclkclk: `sudo nano` works fine, by the way, but that's not related to your problem.
[21:31] <deanclkclk> I know but, when I try to do cntrl+x -> access denied
[21:31] <Flannel> deanclkclk: not if you use sudo.  and ctrl-o is write, ctrl-x is quit.
[21:31] <deanclkclk> ahh I see
[21:31] <wheatthin> Flannel, it'll also work with cntrl+x, it'll ask to rewrite the file
[21:32] <Wobbo> is the easy way, just enter one of the two options.
[21:32] <Flannel> wheatthin: yes, but that's quitting, not saving.
[21:32] <savio> Is it  possible to get kernel 3.5 for ubuntu 13.04
[21:32] <deanclkclk> Flannel: when I run sudo nano I get the same error
[21:32] <wheatthin> Flannel, it's closing, not quiting, and upon quitting it asks to re-write the file, and asks for the file name if there had been changes made
[21:32] <Prock81> where do i begin to get my 3D drivers, what command to tell what i need
[21:32] <deanclkclk> about too many oepn file line 29
[21:33] <wheatthin> deanclkclk, can you paste line 29?
[21:33] <Flannel> deanclkclk: right, that's what you should do instead of sudo su (once resolved), but your issue is a separate problem.
[21:34] <deanclkclk> I will pastie the /ec/sudoers.d
[21:35] <wheatthin> deanclkclk, comment #includedir /etc/sudoers.d
[21:35] <wheatthin> in /etc/sudoers
[21:35] <Wobbo> http://imagebin.org/262210
[21:36] <savio> Anyone
[21:37] <wheatthin> Wobbo, .. and do you mean not saving settings in catalyst? what type of settings?
[21:37] <deanclkclk> what can I use to edit it?
[21:37] <wheatthin> deanclkclk, nano
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> savio, Non stock kernels are not really supported, however someone may help you, just a heads up really, any details as to why might help.
[21:38] <deanclkclk> yeah but, I will get the same error about line 29
[21:38] <wheatthin> deanclkclk, you can always pop in the livedvd and edit it from there
[21:38] <savio> MonkeyDust: changing brightness on my ubuntu laptop system freezes
[21:39] <deanclkclk> :S
[21:39] <savio> acpi_backlight=vendor solved my problem on quental kernel but its not working with raring kernel
[21:39] <deanclkclk> live dvd
[21:39] <deanclkclk> oh god
[21:39] <wheatthin> deanclkclk, ehh or
[21:39] <deanclkclk> but, why is it saying too many open files near line 29
[21:39] <wheatthin> deanclkclk, su root
[21:39] <Prock81> hey guys dont mean to sound pushy but i got to take off on a sail boat today, my laptop has built in gps, i got software, but i need 3D support for my app, to laggy
[21:40] <deanclkclk> what's the default password for root?
[21:40] <savio> wilee-nilee: I know they are not supported but I think this is only my option
[21:40] <deanclkclk> @ wheatthin
[21:40] <wheatthin> deanclkclk, there is no default password for root.. it's randomly generated
[21:41] <savio> wilee-nilee:  changing kernel will break any application installed ,I don't think so
[21:41] <deanclkclk> yeah because, it's asking me for a password
[21:41] <wheatthin> deanclkclk, in the case, you'll have to boot the livedvd
[21:41] <Prock81> my laptop has intel and ninvidia hardware
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> savio, Cool, just wanted to make sure knew why there may had been little response. ;)
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> possibly why anyway
[21:41] <deanclkclk> I don't even have a live cd
[21:42] <Prock81> deanclkclk "sudo su" put ur current pass , then "passwd root" to change it
[21:42] <deanclkclk> i am running ubuntu through virtualbox
[21:42] <wheatthin> deanclkclk, how did you install it in the first place?
[21:42] <wheatthin> Prock81, sudo isn't working
[21:42] <deanclkclk> .iso image..it's running from virtual box wheat
[21:42] <wheatthin> ehh well then use the iso image duh
[21:43] <wheatthin> same concept
[21:43] <deanclkclk> but, then I'll have to reinstall the app
[21:43] <Prock81> deanclkclk "sudoedit"
[21:43] <wheatthin> no..
[21:43] <mwmisner> hello! I am having an issue with installing anything (via apt-get)  on an ubuntu 12.10 server (terminal only). does anyone have any resources that could lead t a solution to the following error? "Errors were encountered while processing:  linux-image-extra-3.5.0-34-generic  linux-image-generic  linux-generic"
[21:43] <wheatthin> when you boot, select "try"
[21:43] <deanclkclk> Prock81: how does that work ?
[21:44] <savio> wilee-nilee:  I like ubuntu 13.04 its GUI is smooth that's why I want quental kernal
[21:44] <Prock81> if someone help me, i help u
[21:44] <wheatthin> Prock81, was it working to begin with/
[21:45] <Prock81> no
[21:45] <Prock81> i need 3d support
[21:45] <wheatthin> no kidding.
[21:46] <Flannel> Prock81: Please don't recommend that people set a root password.  Thanks.
[21:46] <wheatthin> Prock81, did you install the drivers?
[21:47] <prahlad> need some help with python. anyone willing to help ?
[21:47] <Prock81> i need to know where to begin to get the drivers i need
[21:47] <savio> Anyone?
[21:47] <wheatthin> Prock81, use software update
[21:47] <prahlad> import pickle
[21:47] <prahlad> from pickle import *
[21:47] <prahlad> if __name__ == "__main__":
[21:47] <prahlad>     t=[1,2,3,4]
[21:47] <prahlad>     print "type",t
[21:47] <FloodBot1> prahlad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:47] <prahlad>     s = pickle.dumps(t)
[21:47] <wheatthin> Prock81, http://askubuntu.com/questions/305719/nvidia-x-server-sudo-nvidia-config-does-not-generate-a-working-xorg-config
[21:47] <Prock81> updates dont have it
[21:48] <wheatthin> yes it does.
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> prahlad  ask in #python
[21:49] <IdleOne> Prock81: look for Additional Drivers in Software Center
[21:49] <Prock81> how
[21:50] <wheatthin> check out the link I sent you Prock81
[21:50] <mwmisner> @prock81 not sure if this is helpful but if you are using the optimus, a good place to start for the drivers would be  the bumble bee drivers, http://bumblebee-project.org/
[21:50] <IdleOne> Prock81: by running the Software Center and looking for Additional drivers
[21:50] <Baribal_> Hi. Shell noob question, how do I ls only non-directories?
[21:50] <Prock81> someone helped me before , they took me to a direct link to a particulre file on the ninvida site
[21:51] <Prock81> and that fixed it
[21:51] <Prock81> but i dont remember what
[21:51] <wheatthin> Prock81, if it was previously installed from the site you'll have to uninstall it first
[21:51] <Prock81> Baribal_ man ls
[21:52] <Prock81> $man ls
[21:52] <Baribal_> Prock81, I'm noob, but not so noob as not to read man pages before asking questions that basic. :)
[21:52] <Baribal_> If it's in there, I'm blind to it.
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> Baribal_  beginner, not noob or n00b
[21:54] <Baribal_> Okay, newbie. :)
[21:54] <wheatthin> same difference MonkeyDust
[21:54] <wheatthin> ;0
[21:55] <Baribal_> wheatthin, to split the hair into four equal parts: http://v.cdn.cad-comic.com/comics/cad-20060823-d025d.jpg
[21:57] <wheatthin> same thing. just gamers try to act cool and spell it differently
[21:57] <wheatthin> anywho..
[21:57] <wheatthin> Prock81,
[21:57] <Prock81> do what