[01:45] <stanford_ai> I'm trying to run tensorflow on GPU, so I followed the instructions on the tensorflow official website, to install it with conda. But I get this error: ImportError: libcuda.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:55] <leftyfb> stanford_ai: you'll have to seek support from TensorFlow. We cannot support 3rd party applications that are not available in the official Ubuntu respositories
[02:02] <stanford_ai> leftyfb: the official repos are usually quite broken
[02:02] <leftyfb> stanford_ai: incorrect
[02:02] <stanford_ai> :O
[02:03] <lotuspsychje> stanford_ai: the only thing breaking, is when users try to scramble their own system, doing things they dont need to do
[02:04] <stanford_ai> lotuspsychje: not true. usually installing a package with apt get will fail, and I'll have to use a different mechanism from the official website of the package
[02:04] <stanford_ai> aka: avoid using sudo apt install
[02:04] <leftyfb> stanford_ai: Please stop
[02:05] <leftyfb> stanford_ai: if you have issues installing applications from the official repositories using apt, then let us know here and we'll try to help you. Otherwise, you're just spreading FUD.
[02:07] <stanford_ai> leftyfb: ok, how do I install GPU tensorflow with apt from the official repos?
[02:08] <leftyfb> stanford_ai: you don't. It is not available in the official repositories. As you've already been told. That is not make the repos "broken".
[02:08] <leftyfb> is/does
[02:11] <stephenpump101> I am trying to get openvpn to automatically connect on startup, i am on 18.04 and there is no option and i have tried various forum answers to this problem and none have worked. can anyone help me?
[02:11] <leftyfb> stanford_ai: Tensorflow has instructions on their site on how to install it on Ubuntu. You mentioned "conda" which is a redhat/fedora thing. If you shoehorned anaconda into a debian-based distro, well, that's part of your problem right there. I don't know why you didn't just use pip like the instructions tell you.
[02:12] <stanford_ai> leftyfb: conda is for any linux distro, including ubuntu
[02:12] <leftyfb> stanford_ai: it's not part of the official ubuntu repos
[02:12] <stephenpump101> tried this alternative plus another. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1033278/automatically-turn-on-vpn-on-computer-unlock-ubuntu-18-04
[02:12] <stanford_ai> leftyfb: it's for virtual environments. pip isn't useful without conda because the system breaks if i mess with it's python
[02:12] <stanford_ai> *its
[02:13] <leftyfb> stanford_ai: so you used a packaging system from a 3rd party to install another 3rd party application and wonder why things don't work
[02:13] <stanford_ai> leftyfb: you have a better alternative?
[02:14] <leftyfb> stanford_ai: pip install -U tensorflow
[02:14] <stanford_ai> leftyfb: that doesn't support GPU
[02:16] <leftyfb> stanford_ai: yeah, the stretch to the application name you're looking for is impossible. And certainly not on the first google result for "ubuntu tensorflow" which points to the official tensorflow documentation
[02:16] <stanford_ai> leftyfb: I am following the official tensorflow documentation. And it fails on ubuntu
[02:17] <hggdh> stanford_ai: so you need to talk with the tensorflow folks
[02:17] <stanford_ai> hggdh: I am. they blame ubuntu
[02:17] <hggdh> ok.
[02:18] <leftyfb> stanford_ai: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/yBXtzrB2TV/
[02:18] <leftyfb> looks like the instructions from their page work fine to me
[02:21] <stephenpump101> anyone?
[02:21] <stanford_ai> leftyfb: try this in python: import tensorflow
[02:22] <stanford_ai> it all goes well until I import tensorflow
[02:22] <leftyfb> stanford_ai: that is an issue with using the library. Not installing. Again, seek support from Tensorflow.
[02:23] <lotuspsychje> vpn | stephenpump101 start here mate
[02:24] <lotuspsychje> !vpn | stephenpump101
[02:24] <stephenpump101> i know what vpn is.
[02:25] <stanford_ai> leftyfb: it cannot find its own installation
[02:25] <stanford_ai> leftyfb: python -c "import tensorflow"
[02:25] <stephenpump101> i know about openvpn and the vpn baked into ubutnu also, but the issue is autoconnection on 18.04 on boot
[02:25] <stephenpump101> @lotuspsychje
[02:26] <leftyfb> stephenpump101: systemctl enable openvpn
[02:26] <stephenpump101> my vpn is set i just want it to automatically connect on boot.
[02:26] <hggdh> stanford_ai: off-topic. Please stop, now
[02:26] <stephenpump101> i did that also lefty
[02:26] <stephenpump101> sudo  systemctl enable openvpn
[02:27] <leftyfb> stephenpump101: rebooting should start the service on boot
[02:28] <leftyfb> stephenpump101: if not, look at "journalctl -xeu openvpn
[02:28] <stephenpump101> ya rebooted and double checked password, no go.
[02:28] <leftyfb> stephenpump101: if not, look at "journalctl -xeu openvpn
[02:29] <stephenpump101> i just did shows no errors, says its running
[02:30] <leftyfb> stephenpump101: if it's running, then it should be connected
[02:30] <stephenpump101> i dont see it under ifconfig -a :-/
[02:31] <stephenpump101> also my ip shows as my regular in browser
[02:32] <leftyfb> stephenpump101: you don't see a tunX interface?
[02:32] <leftyfb> stephenpump101: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openvpn.html.en#openvpn-simple-client-configuration followed that?
[02:36] <stephenpump101> ya no tun0 interface
[02:37] <leftyfb> stephenpump101: look in your syslog
[02:37] <leftyfb> see what configs it's using
[02:42] <stephenpump101> ya theres a problem, i guess i gotta see why its not reading my user/pass file
[02:43] <stephenpump101> Options error: Unrecognized option or missing or extra parameter(s) in /etc/openvpn/openvpn.conf:23: auth-user-pass.txt (2.4.4)
[02:45] <stephenpump101> ahh i didnt name it .txt when i saved it XD
[02:52] <stephenpump101> thanks everyone, if it works on reboot, i wont be back lol
[03:29] <while> hello, is there any way to mount mork files, as used by mail clients such as Thunderbird?
[03:29] <nixNeinNada> #gnome-hackers
[03:35] <Bashing-om> while: One does not mount 'files'. What is mounted is file systems ( partitions) and then the files can be accessed .
[03:36] <while> Bashing-om: absolutely, however, a mork file seems to contain files, much like if you were to losetup a file, and use mkfs.ext4 on it, and then mount that
[03:36] <while> it would contain a file "Lost+Found"
[03:36] <while> er directory
[03:40] <guiverc_d> while, I think it's a [database] file (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Tech/Mork/What_is_it) and not a squashfs or other mountable 'file containing fs' - but I've never used the file, so have seen & examined examples
[03:41] <leftyfb> while: https://stackoverflow.com/a/18524543
[03:41] <leftyfb> "MORK is a textual database containing the files Address Book Data (.mab files) and Mail Folder Summaries (.msf files). The format, written by David McCusker, is a mix of various numerical namespaces and is undocumented and seem to no longer be developed/maintained/supported."
[03:42] <leftyfb> while: follow the 2nd post on that page. Those would be your only options. Certainly nothing supported here.
[03:43] <while> thank you
[03:43] <Bashing-om> while: and a maybe - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/17841815/read-thunderbird-address-mab-files-content ; https://github.com/KevinGoodsell/mork-converter . Can not vouch !
[03:47] <nixNeinNada> is gnome-hackers the correct channel to ask gtkmm questions, or is there a better one?  just now learning irc...
[03:50] <madLyfe> im on kubuntu and i have 3 monitors. when i lock the desktop session i get 3 replicated lock screens. is there a way to make it only one lock screen on the primary monitor?
[03:54] <energizer> When my screens turn off from idleness, and i wake them up, one of them doesn't wake up so i have to unplug and replug the hdmi. Is there a way to simulate unplugging and replugging the cable?
[03:57] <nixNeinNada> energizer: i don't know the answer, but the first place I would start is 1) are they the same make/model monitors, and 2) if 1 is true, if you swap the monitors in the video card, does the problem follow the monitor, or the video card port.
[03:59] <lapion> Hello..
[03:59] <lapion> so I have a #ubuntu log file that got scanned as being infect by some virus..
[04:00] <hggdh> lapion: wait. You mean a *text* file got tagged as virus?
[04:00] <lapion> yes hggdh
[04:01] <hggdh> lapion: out of sheer and uncontained curiosity, which log file was it?
[04:01] <leftyfb> lapion: which log file? Scanned by what? what "virus" did it say the log file contained?
[04:01] <metalbat97> Guys i have folder to mount in docker but its not appear where i check in docker, what is ubuntu command for chcon, i have the command but for centos "chcon -Rt svirt_sandbox_file_t /targetfolder" what the command in ubuntu ?
[04:03] <lapion> sorry was afk for short.. let me check..
[04:03] <leftyfb> metalbat97: chcon is for SELinux. That doesn't exist in Ubuntu
[04:03] <lapion> the antivirus is antivirus for linux avast ( last update virusdb 2017 sometime
[04:04] <leftyfb> lapion: I would recommend removing Avast and not worrying about it.
[04:04] <metalbat97> leftyfb, so what command in ubuntu for that selinux?
[04:04] <lapion> looking for the log file..
[04:04] <leftyfb> metalbat97: selinux does not exist in Ubuntu
[04:04] <lapion> leftyfb, was an scan using external usb-bootable stick..
[04:05] <leftyfb> lapion: I wouldn't worry about it. Avast will only find Windows malware/viruses. None of which will have any affect on linux
[04:05] <metalbat97> leftyfb: so how the way to mount and accessed sub directory folder for docker purpose?
[04:06] <leftyfb> metalbat97: mounting filesystems in docker in ubuntu has nothing to do with linux. You might try #docker for more help with docker though
[04:06] <lapion> I am tracing where the infection came from because i have a sshscan in my tmp and var/tmp folder and still cannot find the source..
[04:06] <metalbat97> okay, thanks leftyfb you're right
[04:07] <lapion> I had..
[04:07] <leftyfb> lapion: I can just about guarantee you there's no infection
[04:08] <lapion> leftyfb, the infection possible wormed itself into my system through irc-client..
[04:09] <leftyfb> lapion: what makes you believe that? What makes you believe you have any sort of infection?
[04:09] <hggdh> lapion: two points: (1) you *really* have to update the avast DB (if you elect to keep on using it); (2) if you do not have a firewall deployed, time to
[04:10] <hggdh> lapion: actually, more: (3) if you use to receive files via IRC, perhaps you should not; (4) never IRC as root
[04:11] <hggdh> lapion: and, as leftyfb already pointed out: rather rare to see an attack on Linux
[04:13] <hggdh> lapion: finally: I see SSH probes into my (exposed-to-the-internet) servers continuously. But (a) I only accept public keys, and (b) I deploy fail2ban
[04:14] <hggdh> lapion: so, if you do not do (a) *and* (b) above, better block access and indeed consider the chance of having already been pwned.
[04:15] <hggdh> lapion: but this would not be cause virus, it would be because you left your system exposed
[04:15] <lapion> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/byvqy3KdsX/
[04:16] <lapion> hggdh, I am just backtracing..
[04:16] <lapion> looking into most avenues..
[04:16] <lapion> I never IRC as root..
[04:17] <lapion> however the installed ew3 binary did find a way to run it's assigned binaries as root.
[04:18] <hggdh> lapion: what is the contents of tmp/.ICE-unix/master/version.txt
[04:18] <lapion> hggdh, I tarred the infection files before the self deleted..
[04:18] <lapion> the list of files
[04:19] <hggdh> lapion: and, I hope, you are not using this system to IRC to us here.  Time to wipe your machine and restore from backup and lock things down properly next time
[04:20] <lapion> I am just checking because no ssh traces found..
[04:20] <hggdh> lapion: ^^ what leftyfb said. Completely wipe this system, and re-install. Then make sure to introduce more controls to ANY application you had that allows incoming from the Wild Internet
[04:21] <leftyfb> lapion: there's no sense in trying to track it down. Those scripts will wipe their tracks usually
[04:21] <lapion> leftyfb, hggdh I prempted the wipe..
[04:22] <leftyfb> preempted?
[04:22] <hggdh> lapion: no, we are talking now about YOU wiping THIS system
[04:22] <lapion> before the script could erase I had the files tarred and safely stored elsewhere
[04:22] <hggdh> and then having a real hard look at ANY other servers in the local network
[04:24] <hggdh> lapion: you could keep what you showed us for forensics, but consider this server pwned and lost
[04:26] <lapion> hggdh, leftyfb aready done so..
[04:27] <hggdh> lapion: now you should look at ALL servers in your network
[04:28] <hggdh> (and I would bet you do not use public only, or pub key *and* password for SSH access
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> lapion: yes please check all your servers, cause when 1 is taken over, things will spread across your own network fast
[04:29] <lapion> the only other detected virus was the logfile which I will split up into bits to detect the exact moment of infection and see if maybe there might be some irc vulnerability that might have slipped the virus into the system, seeing as this infection came around the time freenode was being attacked
[04:30] <lapion> lotuspsychje, hggdh I only have one system running at any point in time..
[04:30] <hggdh> lapion: good. Seriously, you have to format & re-install. I do hope you have data backups
[04:31] <hggdh> lapion: right now there is a good chance you have been co-opted into a bot net
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> lapion: investigate your traffic in and out too
[04:32] <hggdh> (that is all assuming yo yourself did not download and run the thing, but they succeeded in getting access via SSH)
[04:41] <lapion> btw there was no root elevation..
[04:43] <hggdh> lapion: you do not need to be root to be in a bot net
[05:09] <ZaZaQR> hi
[05:16] <TxLiunx> hi
[05:25] <ZaZaQR> hi TxLinux, do you need any help?
[05:34] <ZaZaQR> holy what happened?
[05:35] <ZaZaQR> wb dave_elec
[05:36] <Dave_Elec> ZaZaQR: sorry having bad networrk
[05:37] <ZaZaQR> cool
[05:37] <ZaZaQR> i think a bunch of bots left
[05:54] <drager> Hey, if I launch a terminal via another terminal i can't search history... If I run `bindkey -L | grep R` in this terminal I get: `bindkey "^R" redisplay` which is weird? I'm using zsh. Any ideas?
[05:56] <geirha> different terminal emulator programs? could it be your .zshrc is overriding the special TERM environment variable?
[06:01] <drager> Hmm, if I start gnome-terminal via the default gnome interface it launches one terminal fine and if I launch `gnome-terminal` from that one I cannot search history.
[06:01] <drager> Before I had TERM=xterm in my .zshrc
[06:02] <geirha> ok, gnome-terminal should be fine with TERM=xterm, though you shouldn't modify TERM from zshrc
[06:03] <drager> Alright, I have removed it. Where should it be set?
[06:04] <geirha> It should be set by the terminal emulator itself. It's how the terminal emulator communicates what capabilities it has to the programs running within
[06:04] <drager> (I don't use gnome-terminal usually)
[06:04] <drager> Ah ok
[06:06] <geirha> I'd try to see if #zsh is able to help debug the issue. I assume it starts up in non-interactive mode in the second gnome-terminal for some reason, but I don't know in what circumstances zsh starts in interactive vs non-interactive mode.
[06:09] <drager> Yeah, that sounds like a good plan. Thanks!
[06:09] <drager> I get a [I] in that terminal
[06:10] <mojtaba> Hello, I know that find -iname "*.JPG" -print0 will find all the files with JPG extension. Do you know how can I find files with different extensions in one shot? like JPG or jpg or jpeg?
[06:11] <geirha> find . \( -iname "*.jpg" -o -iname "*.jpeg" \) -print0
[06:12] <mojtaba> geirha: Thanks, but man page says expr1 -o expr2               Or; expr2 is not evaluated if expr1 is true.
[06:14] <mojtaba> Also how can I make sure find will search recursively in all subdirectories?
[06:14] <geirha> mojtaba: if expr1 is true, it won't need to check expr2
[06:14] <mojtaba> geirha: I see. thanks.
[06:14] <geirha> find searches recursively by default. You have to make an effort to have it NOT recurse
[06:15] <mojtaba> geirha: :) thanks a lot.
[06:23] <mojtaba> geirha: Do you know how can I print the full path of the file from find command?>
[06:23] <geirha> mojtaba: find "$PWD"   instead of   find .
[06:25] <mojtaba> geirha: It did not print the full path.
[06:25] <geirha> oh? what did it print instead?
[06:25] <mojtaba> geirha: just the file name.
[06:26] <geirha> find "$PWD" \( -iname "*.jpg" -o -iname "*.jpeg" \) -print     this?
[06:26] <geirha> it should output absolute paths to all the jpegs
[06:27] <mojtaba> geirha: my bad, it printed absolute paths, but after piping to other programs, I am just getting the file name.
[06:27] <mojtaba> find "$PWD" \( -iname "*.jpg" -o -iname "*.jpeg" \) -print0 | xargs -0 -I {} exiftool -T -d "#Year#%Y# #Month#%m# #Day#%d#" -filename -CreateDate {} | grep "#Month#12#" | grep "#Year#2017#"
[06:27] <mojtaba> I am trying to find all the images created on 12/17
[06:34] <geirha> find "$PWD" \( -iname "*.jpg" -o -iname "*.jpeg" \) -exec bash -c '[[ $(exiftool -T -d %Y%m -CreateDate "$1") = 201712 ]]' bash {} \; -print
[06:36] <mojtaba> geirha: thanks a lot
[06:43] <drager> geirha: It got solved from help in #zsh. I had to set bindkey -e in my .zshrc. Thanks for your help
[06:46] <energizer> whats the difference between kde vs kubuntu vs plasma
[06:47] <energizer> geirha: why "$PWD" is better than . ?
[06:48] <hateball> energizer: KDE is a community, Plasma is a piece of software produced by said community, Kubuntu is a distribution with Ubuntu base but KDE Plasma as default DE
[06:49] <energizer> hateball: what does kde stand for?
[06:49] <energizer> er googled
[06:49] <energizer> K Desktop Environment
[06:49] <energizer> but that's different from plasma i guess?
[06:50] <energizer> which is also a DE
[06:50] <energizer> or K Desktop Enviroment isnt really a desktop environement
[06:51] <energizer> hateball: still a bit confused, but thanks :)
[06:53] <hateball> energizer: well the name changed from meaning the DE to meaning the community
[06:54] <energizer> hateball: ah ok, i get it
[06:54] <hateball> energizer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE#Brand_repositioning
[07:10] <geirha> energizer: they wanted absolute paths to the images
[07:18] <energizer> geirha: ah
[07:52] <tomboy64> when running `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gns3/ppa` i get   Err:3 http://ppa.launchpad.net/gns3/ppa/ubuntu bionic InRelease   500  Internal Server Error [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[07:52] <tomboy64> what am i doing wrong here?
[07:54] <mst89> tomboy64: 500 error is a server error. dont think it is your fault
[07:54] <mst89> do you run a proxy or sthß
[07:55] <tomboy64> not sure about that. maybe a transparent one as i
[07:55] <tomboy64> i'm in an educational institution here
[07:56] <tomboy64> but normally i have no problems using http.
[07:56] <mst89> can you just try to download a single file with wget from this mirror. just to see if you could
[07:58] <tomboy64> `wget http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ls-lR.gz` works just fine
[08:00] <tomboy64> `wget http://ppa.launchpad.net/gns3/ppa/ubuntu/dists/bionic/InRelease` gives me 500
[08:00] <tomboy64> but it lists fine in my browser, which i'm socks-proxying over ssh
[08:01] <tomboy64> can i force apt to use a socks proxy?
[08:01] <tomboy64> nvm, doing rtfm
[08:01] <mst89> tomboy64: https://askubuntu.com/questions/279699/500-internal-server-error-whenever-i-use-apt-get/279955
[08:06] <tomboy64> thanks for the help; it is indeed a local proxy messing with launchpad.net
[08:06] <tomboy64> forcing apt over tsocks works just fine (tm)
[08:07] <mst89> welcome
[09:14] <BraveHand> Does anyone know of a Free/Libre PDF to Word conversion  tool for Ubuntu?
[09:17] <b3h3m0th> Can't Scratch2 be installed on latest Ubuntu anymore?
[09:23] <ikonia> what makes you think it can't ?
[09:25] <b3h3m0th> ikonia: it requires adobe air 2.6
[09:25] <b3h3m0th> Adobe 2.6 is available in 32 bit only
[09:26] <ikonia> so I guess the first question is why you'd target technology that has a depdency on a propritary technology that's "dead"
[09:26] <ikonia> but the real answer is you can install 32bit software on 64bit OS's
[09:27] <b3h3m0th> ikonia: are you suggesting an alternative to scratch?
[09:27] <blackflow> scratch looks cute. visual programming. someone should snap that up.
[09:27] <b3h3m0th> I don't think there is any
[09:27] <ikonia> I personally don't know one
[09:28] <b3h3m0th> Anyway, my ******* requires me to install scratch
[09:28] <b3h3m0th> wth!
[09:28] <b3h3m0th> *******
[09:28] <ikonia> your what?
[09:28] <blackflow> hunter2
[09:28] <b3h3m0th>  /remove-ubuntu-taboo
[09:28] <b3h3m0th>  /remove-irc-taboo
[09:28] <b3h3m0th> my homework assignment requires me install scratch
[09:28] <b3h3m0th> better ^
[09:29] <ikonia> so I'd personally question that course if it depends on dead tech
[09:29] <_st4t1k> im pretty sure you could add another architecture with dpkg --add-architecture i386
[09:29] <ikonia> but as I've said you can install 32bit software
[09:29] <b3h3m0th> blackflow:  no worries. chill.
[09:29] <_st4t1k> and then you would be able to install 32bit libs
[09:30] <b3h3m0th> > im pretty sure you could add another architecture with dpkg --add-architecture i386
[09:30] <b3h3m0th> I tried that
[09:30] <b3h3m0th> even after that, ia32-libs was not detected in apt
[09:31] <ikonia> lets take a step back
[09:31] <ikonia> how are you trying to install ?
[09:31] <voidDotClass> Is it relatively safe to upgrade 16.04 to 18?
[09:32] <ikonia> voidDotClass: it is a supported stable process if you follow the instructions properly
[09:32] <blackflow> b3h3m0th: maybe you can containerize that? debootstrap a 32-bit ubuntu installation. I think that's still supported (while installation isos aren't any more)
[09:32] <voidDotClass> ikonia, what happens to all the apps you installed, launcher shortcuts etc?
[09:33] <ikonia> voidDotClass: depends on how they where installed/where they came from and their support status in 18.04
[09:33] <voidDotClass> ikonia,  most from apt, a few from .deb files
[09:33] <ikonia> voidDotClass: from official ubuntu repos ?
[09:33] <ikonia> or from 3rd parties
[09:34] <b3h3m0th> I had to install libgtk2.0-0:i386
[09:34] <b3h3m0th> blackflow: container can't give GUI rught?
[09:34] <ikonia> b3h3m0th: how are you actually trying to install ?
[09:34] <voidDotClass> ikonia, apt from official, may be a couple PPAs i added, and a few from downloaded .deb files
[09:35] <blackflow> b3h3m0th: they can yes
[09:35] <blackflow> b3h3m0th: snaps are containers
[09:35] <ikonia> voidDotClass: so you'd need to research the ones that are not built by ubuntu
[09:35] <voidDotClass> what about unity launcher icons?
[09:36] <blackflow> b3h3m0th: if you're doing it manually, the only thing you need is expose host's X11 socket into the container rootfs, bind-mount the whole /tmp/.X11-unix/ dir
[09:36] <ikonia> what about them ?
[09:44] <b3h3m0th> ikonia: I described above how I'm trying to install
[09:44] <b3h3m0th> One of the steps involve installing adobe air 2.6
[09:45] <b3h3m0th> that is where I am stuck
[09:45] <b3h3m0th> air 2.6 comes as a 32 installer ELF
[09:55] <ikonia> b3h3m0th: where did you describe how you where installing
[09:55] <ikonia> I didn't see you share any install process
[09:56] <b3h3m0th> ikonia: I swear I did but can only find the last step in logs :o
[09:56] <b3h3m0th> ikonia: I swear I did but can only find the last step in logs :o
[09:56] <b3h3m0th> Maybe my internet swallowed it
[09:56] <blackflow> I'd still recommend doing a 32-bit chroot, or even LXD, or in fact even build your own snap of it.
[09:56] <b3h3m0th> I'm getting 100+ms latency and worse jitter
[09:57] <b3h3m0th> blackflow: I am trying to setup docker with GUI
[10:31] <b3h3m0th> blackflow: where can I get a 32 bit ubuntu image for docker?
[10:33] <squealingcode> b3h3m0th: https://hub.docker.com/r/32bit/ubuntu
[10:33] <b3h3m0th> I tried that
[10:34] <b3h3m0th> It ended up building 64
[10:34] <b3h3m0th> The github script mentioned in there I mean
[10:34] <b3h3m0th> docker pull 32bit/ubuntu does not give anything
[10:34] <squealingcode> I see. So you tried the build-image script at docker-32bit repository?
[10:35] <b3h3m0th> yup
[10:36] <b3h3m0th> uname -m gave x86_64
[10:39] <geirha> well the kernel won't be affected. Check the resulting binaries. E.g.  file /bin/bash
[10:40] <b3h3m0th> damn!
[10:40] <b3h3m0th> How could I miss that
[10:40] <squealingcode> Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
[10:41] <b3h3m0th> yeah, those are 32
[10:43] <b3h3m0th> For getting display in container, do I have to mount the $XAUTHORITY over volumes or /tmp/.x11-unix is enough?
[10:43] <b3h3m0th> and setting $DISPLAY to the one in docker host
[10:48] <sentiment> leftyfb: hi
[10:49] <sentiment> Just wanted to thank you for your help about two weeks ago
[10:50] <sentiment> I persisted the ethtool settings so that it happens at every boot. So the connection issue is fixed now. :-)
[10:50] <Galactor1> Hi! How can I get simplified chinese language input on Lubuntu if I am using i3? how could I switch between using the two languages in i3?
[10:51] <blackflow> b3h3m0th: I don't know docker so I don't know what it does, but when I was doing gui containers manually, the X11 socket was the only thing that needed mounting. xauthority required installation in the container, and on the host side you have to allow them with xhost +
[10:51] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:51] <the-noob> hello and welcome to a new day of pain!
[10:51] <the-noob> today's topic... encrypted drives
[10:51] <_st4t1k> Galactor1: use setxkbmap
[10:52] <the-noob> sounds good, doesn't work
[10:52] <the-noob> at least when you do things that you shouldn't
[10:52] <blackflow> b3h3m0th: oh yeah, and nvidia needed installation as well, for opengl shared libs (if you use nvidia and the gui app requires accel).   btw, google found this for LXD containerization of gui apps, so perhaps try that:  https://blog.simos.info/how-to-run-graphics-accelerated-gui-apps-in-lxd-containers-on-your-ubuntu-desktop/
[10:52] <blackflow> the-noob: WorksForMe(tm)
[10:52] <the-noob> well, to be honest it was fine
[10:52] <the-noob> until I decided to upgrade to 18.04
[10:53] <the-noob> oh boi. never again
[10:53] <the-noob> long story short, I ended up with a broken installation so now I'm trying to backup that entire drive
[10:53] <_st4t1k> actually the upgrade might be a bad choise . Prefer fresh install
[10:53] <the-noob> and start fresh
[10:53] <Galactor1> _st4t1k: is there a way to install it via terminal? How does it typically work?
[10:53] <_st4t1k> Galactor1: it must be already installed
[10:54] <blackflow> the-noob: so what's the problem you need to solve?
[10:54] <the-noob> I've managed to mount the drive on a LiveDisk , was asked for the passoword, I provided (full encryption)
[10:54] <the-noob> now I have my stuff in /media/old/
[10:54] <Galactor1> _st4t1k: let me see if I can access it via the D menu in i3wm
[10:55] <_st4t1k> Galactor1:
[10:55] <_st4t1k> no
[10:55] <blackflow> the-noob: for starters, is that LUKS or something else? full disk encryption you said?
[10:55] <_st4t1k> Galactor1: its a cli programm
[10:55] <the-noob> LUKS, full
[10:55] <_st4t1k> Galactor1: you use it to set a default shortcut to change between layout
[10:55] <_st4t1k> Galactor1: you use it to set a default shortcut to change between layouts
[10:55] <the-noob> in my old home I can see 2 symlinks
[10:56] <the-noob> both 'red' aka not working
[10:56] <b3h3m0th> Okay I gotGUI
[10:56] <blackflow> the-noob: are they relative? the root changed for them, to /media/old/
[10:56] <the-noob> I can still see data in old/~/.ecryptfs/the-noob/.Private but lloks lilke /ECRYPTGFS_FNEK_.asdsadsadasdfdss
[10:57] <blackflow> the-noob: wait, ecrpytfs != LUKS
[10:57] <b3h3m0th> damn, I'm getting libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 missing in 32bit container as well
[10:59] <the-noob> doing `lsblk` says `sdc5-luks-(some uuid)`
[10:59] <the-noob> maybe it was like luks whole drive and then home folder again encrypted?
[11:00] <the-noob> can't remember what I did 3 years ago..
[11:00] <b3h3m0th> blackflow: 32 bit ubuntu was supposed to have the 32 bit libs right?
[11:07] <b3h3m0th> blackflow: in 32 bit container, Adobe AIR identifies itself to be in a 64 bit system
[11:08] <neildugan> I have been trying to use upnpc to open up an external access (for ssh) to a lxc VM ... but every time I try to connect (with ssh) I get a "connection refused" error ... but I can find no indication in the VM that a connection was even attempted ... can anyone help here?
[11:15] <comet23> is redhat stable ubuntu?
[11:17] <comet23> i use arch, the superior operating system, for professional computer end users, and i have never used ubuntu before today, so i downloaded a copy of redhat and went on my way
[11:17] <comet23> it seems nice
[11:17] <tomreyn> the-noob: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/ecryptfs-recover-private.1.html
[11:17] <JimBuntu> comet23, unsure if you are joking.
[11:17] <comet23> but i don't like to have to pay for it after the trial, but the features are great
[11:18] <neildugan> comet23, why are you here, this is for ubuntu , not redhat or fedora
[11:19] <comet23> ubuntu is debian based on suse right?
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> comet23: please stop that
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> comet23: only ubuntu support questions here
[11:19] <michal_f> I just tried installing Ubuntu Server 18.04.1, and on first reboot, machine hangs on "reached target cloud-init target [OK]"
[11:19] <comet23> i'm asking about the different versions of ubuntu
[11:19] <michal_f> any tips, please ?
[11:20] <comet23> i'm new here
[11:20] <comet23> like debian is the real os and ubuntu is a version of debian
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> comet23: this channel focus on ubuntu support issues, not chatting for chat please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:20] <comet23> like windows 10 pro and windows 10 home
[11:20] <comet23> right?
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> michal_f: see the #ubuntu-server channel mate
[11:22] <comet23> michal_f: do yum install ubuntu-server
[11:22] <tomreyn> comet23: do you have an ubuntu support question? we don't compare different linux distros here.
[11:23] <michal_f> I don't think I can ssh to that machine
[11:24] <michal_f> maybe I just try to reboot it again. will report later :)
[11:25] <tomreyn> michal_f: haven't seen this before, rebooting again seems like a good thing to try. you can also ask server related questions in #ubuntu-server
[11:26] <comet23> I heard Alex Jones mention that Ubuntu is the reason the frogs are gay because they water treatment facility is running ubuntu
[11:26] <JimBuntu> adios comet23
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> !ops | comet23 disturbing the channel
[11:26] <comet23> why did it make the frogs gay?
[11:26] <Fuchs> not needed.
[11:29] <michal_f> actually I could ssh there. sorry for fuzz :)
[11:29] <the-noob> tomreyn: thanks, found https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60570/why-should-the-pimpl-idiom-be-used/60601#60601 to be very good
[11:29] <the-noob> I got my stuff back !
[11:29] <the-noob> backing up now :D
[11:40] <the-noob> while I got that sorted... I'm a bit confused
[11:41] <the-noob> did I had my system double encrypted?
[11:41] <the-noob> like luks for entire drive and then my home directory again ?
[11:43] <tomreyn> the-noob: using the live cd, were you able to mount the file system you saw the ecryptsfs data on without needing to type a passphrase first / during the mount?
[11:44] <the-noob> nope
[11:45] <the-noob> same when booting up, after a brief load I was asked the password for sdc_crypt (or something close)
[11:57] <tomreyn> the-noob: the name 'sdc_crypt' suggests it is a dmsetup based encryption scheme, like cryptsetup-luks is.
[12:01] <tomreyn> the-noob: once you have it decrypted, this command will provide information on the encryption used: sudo dmsetup table /dev/mapper/sd*_crypt
[12:10] <the-noob> there is only one `luks-{uuid}` in /dev/mapper, no sd*
[12:10] <the-noob> for that it says crypt aes-xts-plain64
[12:13] <Galactor1> _st4t1k: Right on. Thanks! Sorry for the late reply. I'll try it out
[12:21] <tomreyn> the-noob: so you do have *some* dmcrypt-luks device there, and it is open (in the LUKS sense).
[12:22] <tomreyn> the-noob: if you would like my attention, please type 'tomreyn: ' in front of what you say, so i'll get notified.
[12:22] <the-noob> thanks
[12:22] <the-noob> no worries, I got it sorted, backing up the data now
[12:23] <the-noob> and then a fresh install
[12:23] <the-noob> lesson learned .. if using the computer for anythin else except watching cat videos (aka installing packages) ... then fresh install
[12:23] <the-noob> otherwise upgrade might just work
[12:24] <the-noob> ll /dev/sdb:
[12:34] <tomreyn> the-noob: that's not really true, no. upgrades usually work fine even with some complexity involved. i've upgraded a system with multiple software raids, multiple luks containers and multiple lvm PVs/VGs/LVs from 16.04.5 to 18.04.1 fine the other day.
[12:35] <tomreyn> it even had multiple ppa's enabled (which can pose problems when upgrading) and it involved switching from xubuntu to gnome3
[12:40] <the-noob> well.. I manually disabled all ppas before upgrading
[12:40] <the-noob> and uninstalled nvidia drivers
[12:40] <the-noob> and all that
[12:41] <the-noob> didn't go well. at all
[12:42] <the-noob> but it is veeery likely this was due to some fkery I did in the past
[12:42] <blackflow> the-noob: what exactly didn't? I didn't read all the backlog, but it sounded like you had ecryptfs there? Bionic is dropping default support for that (from the installer) so that could be one reason
[12:43] <the-noob> well.. after upgrade I ended up in a console, no desktop environmnet
[12:43] <the-noob> every 'apt-get install' was failing due to dependencies
[12:43] <the-noob> tried all the clear cache, install -f, etc
[12:44] <the-noob> nothing
[12:45] <the-noob> I've drilled down into one package
[12:45] <blackflow> you had any PPAs there and packages installed from them?
[12:45] <the-noob> I had  some
[12:45] <the-noob> like php7
[12:46] <the-noob> rabbitmq
[12:46] <the-noob> anyways... ended up in console
[12:46] <the-noob> when I got to the last dependency in the chain
[12:47] <the-noob> it was saying stuff like Depends: libgbm1 (= 18.0.5-0ubuntu0~18.04.1) but .(some other version) will be installed
[12:48] <pragmaticenigma> the-noob: you disabled *ALL* ppas? including the ones that are provided by Ubuntu by default?
[12:48] <the-noob> so I thought 'gee.. I'll uninstall everything and piece it back together
[12:49] <cfhowlett> !ping
[12:49] <blackflow> pragmaticenigma: default PPAs?
[12:49] <the-noob> no , all in /etc/apt/sources.d/
[12:49] <the-noob> I've replaced the /etc/sources.list
[12:49] <blackflow> the-noob: checked /etc/apt/sources.list? sometimes stuff is appended there instead of having its own file under sources.d
[12:50] <the-noob> with a default one
[12:50] <blackflow> sources.list.d
[12:50] <the-noob> blackflow: yes, typo
[12:50] <the-noob> blackflow: I've replaced the sources.list with a default one, 5 lines, all bionic
[12:50] <blackflow> the-noob: _before_ upgrade?
[12:51] <the-noob> no, after
[12:51] <the-noob> the upgrade kicked off after disabling /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[12:51] <blackflow> yeah see, not sure that's good. sources.list shouldn't be touched, the upgrade process should do what's needed, and it should've been empty of any PPAs
[12:52] <the-noob> after upgrade /etc/sources.list was looking ok, only bionic things but just to make sure(as apt-get upgrade/install wasn't doint anything) I replaced it
[12:52] <the-noob> libegl-mesa0 : Depends: libgbm1 (= 18.0.5-0ubuntu0~18.04.1) but 1:18.0.1-0~x~padoka0 is to be installed
[12:52] <the-noob> (found in clipboard )
[12:53] <blackflow> yeah, the PPA mess....
[12:53] <the-noob> so, at about the time you have bad ideas (1am) I installed tasksel
[12:53] <the-noob> and tried installing 'kubuntu-desktop' from there... didn't work
[12:53] <blackflow> at this point, I'd back up data, nuke it from orbit, reinstall bionic from scratch
[12:54] <the-noob> then I've seen a 'great' suggestion to use tasklist to uninstall stuff
[12:54] <the-noob> so I did (from memory ) tasklist -r ubuntu-desktop
[12:54] <blackflow> that hole is just getting deeper.
[12:54] <the-noob> that uninstalled everything like ...
[12:54] <blackflow> you don't say :)
[12:55] <the-noob> but the good news is that `apt-get install -f` worked after
[12:55] <the-noob> and installed a bunch of updates
[12:55] <the-noob> the bad news is that I've stopped right there and rebooted thinking it will be 'clean'
[12:55] <blackflow> the default upgrade is complex as it is (unit -> gnome switch, for starters), and any PPAs thrown in there would've just cemented the failure.
[12:55] <blackflow> *unity
[12:56] <cfhowlett> so ... time to clean install then?
[12:56] <the-noob> afer reboot I had no network... follwed the ifconfig tutorial to setup temporary IP.. got that working and installed kubuntu-desktop
[12:57] <blackflow> the-noob: btw shouldn't be using ifconfig, get used to `ip`
[12:57] <the-noob> rebooted... and the initial decrypt doesn't work anymore
[12:57] <the-noob> just gets stuck at asking the password
[12:57] <blackflow> but you got the data eventually?
[12:58] <the-noob> in the process ... I've booted from a kali live cd
[12:58] <the-noob> mounted the decrypted hdd
[12:58] <the-noob> and now copying ~/ to an external drive
[12:58] <the-noob> and then nuking  :D
[12:59] <blackflow> right. back it all up and just reinstall. don't forget stuff outside ~/ like any databases and such...
[12:59] <the-noob> yeah, I've started with that
[12:59] <the-noob> the internal ssd is 512 , external 3tb
[13:00] <the-noob> uh oh, here's a question
[13:00] <the-noob> is there a way to copy an exact image of the drive in a folder of the external drive?
[13:00] <blackflow> you could `dd` it to a file
[13:01] <the-noob> I want the 'raw' data but also I'm manually copying ~/ now that I've decrypted
[13:01] <arakash> Hi all. I need some help. I just installed 18.04 LTS over my old 16.04 (I think?) and I'm experiencing freezes and generally a lot of lag. I tried installing nvidia drivers but it doesn't seem to help. Thanks in advance.
[13:01] <blackflow> arakash: which nvidia gpu?
[13:01] <arakash> backflow: GTX 1060
[13:02] <arakash> It just froze again. I can move my moues though.
[13:02] <the-noob> "David Attenborough: it is that time of the year when users migrate to a new version of the OS ....and here we see that thing don't always go well"
[13:02] <blackflow> arakash: I had had massive issues, but with GTX960 and the default nvidia proprietary driver. Now using the graphics-driver PPA with latest nvidia's and it's smooth, no issues.
[13:03] <arakash> Yeah I did add the graphics-driver PPA and installed nvidia-390 as opposed to nvidia-396 as I heard 390 was more stable.
[13:04] <blackflow> the-noob: instead of `dd`, which would require you to "unpack" that to a drive if you wanted to access something in it, I'd just tarball the / into a file, archive that away. compressed, and you can access individual files from it.
[13:04] <arakash> Interesingly, when I open the additional drivers thing it stil says "no proprietary drivers are in use".
[13:04] <blackflow> arakash: I'm talking about exactly the opposite. I had issues with the default, 390 (in Bionic). Upgradaed to 396 from the PPA.
[13:04] <the-noob> blackflow: thanks, will do that as soon as copying the decrypted bits finishes
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> arakash: it all depends wich last version you using
[13:05] <arakash> backflow: Ok I guess I'll try 396
[13:08] <blackflow> arakash: also note that the new driver package name in Bionic is now nvidia-driver-<version>, and it used to be nvidia-<version> before that, which is now a "transitional" package. Not sure what that means exactly, but a few issues here were fixed by removing that and installing the nvidia-driver-<version>
[13:09] <arakash> backflow: oooh ok. I'm not seeing nvidia-396 at all.
[13:09] <blackflow> good, there shouldn't be any for 396, but there is for 390 (transitional)
[13:09] <arakash> Ah there it is, it's nvidia-driver-396
[13:09] <blackflow> (btw the issue were about no driver getting installed at all in the upgrade process, rather than it being isntalled but working flaky)
[13:17] <olis> Hi
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> olis: welcome, how can we help you?
[13:18] <olis> This problem has me stumped right now... it might have been the 18.04 update, but that's been a while ago and I'm not sure.
[13:18] <olis> My user is member of several groups
[13:18] <olis> when I log in on the console and run id I see them all
[13:18] <olis> but when I'm logged on in X (i3 session) and run id in a terminal, I only see my own group in the list - none of the others
[13:18] <olis> how is that possible?
[13:19] <olis> I've been using Unix systems for 25 years and I didn't know this could happen... or if I did, I totally forgot about it. Any ideas?
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> olis: just for testing, have you tryed login to gnome/xorg or wayland?
[13:20] <blackflow> olis: any process can change g/u ids. the terminal is a process descending from DE and gdm
[13:21] <arakash> Ok it froze again. 396 driver not helping.
[13:21] <olis> blackflow: good point, that is true of course
[13:21] <blackflow> olis: what you say shouldn't happen, and someone else mentioned it few weeks ago, though.
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> arakash: wich version of that 396 did you install?
[13:21] <olis> I'll brb, let me try gnome or similar and other terminals
[13:22] <arakash> lotuspsychje: the nvidia-driver-396
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> arakash: after the . there's another number
[13:22] <arakash> lotuspsychje: huh?
[13:23] <blackflow> arakash: minor version of it. can you pastebin   apt-cache policy nvidia-driver-396  ?
[13:23] <arakash> ok
[13:23] <blackflow> apparently there are some issues between minor versions in the 396 branch
[13:24] <olis> so... good suggestions, one quick result: it's only urxvt that drops the groups - gnome-terminal works fine
[13:25] <blackflow> olis: the modern DEs are an entangled mess of cgroups and dbus powered instrumentation. only great old ones fully know what's going on there... :)
[13:25] <blackflow> which would explain why gnome stuff is..... well adjusted and urxvt isn't.
[13:26] <arakash> https://www.pastiebin.com/5b83fbdc117d2
[13:26] <olis> blackflow: my group memberships are in /etc/group though, no magic there
[13:27] <mobile_c> i need help
[13:27] <olis> and wouldn't urxvt have to drop the group memberships explicitly? I mean the process would run with my full permissions by default, right...
[13:27] <cfhowlett> mobile_c, provide the details
[13:28] <arakash> backflow: https://www.pastiebin.com/5b83fbdc117d2
[13:28] <blackflow> olis: I'm no sure I know what's going on there exactly. Was just stating _why_ something like that could happen -- due to cgroup/dbus/polkit based instrumentation of the DE. at any rate, it's not normal, the user's group memberships shouldn't be changed like that.
[13:29] <mobile_c> how do i cross compile for ios, as i have installed clang, clang-6.0, gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi but when i do "clang -target armv7-apple-dawin-macho -ccc-gcc-name arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc ./arm.c" i get
[13:29] <mobile_c> /usr/bin/ld: unrecognised option '-dynamic'
[13:29] <mobile_c> /usr/bin/ld: use the --help option for usage information
[13:29] <blackflow> arakash: yeah that's the latest. not sure what else you could to if all those are still causing issues. you tried nouveau too, right?
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> mobile_c: start from the beginning, what are you trying to do
[13:30] <arakash> backflow: this problem has been there all the time since I installed 18.04 (from 16.04)
[13:30] <arakash> or 17.04 or whatever I had. was EOL so
[13:30] <mobile_c> cross compile for ios/macosx
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> mobile_c: this is the ubuntu support channel
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> arakash: and you tested 390.77 aswell from ubuntu ppa?
[13:32] <arakash> lotuspsychje: no
[13:32] <blackflow> mobile_c: probably something-something qemu based.
[13:32] <arakash> lotuspsychje: I believe the novue driver was installed by default and the problem was there too.
[13:32] <blackflow> lotuspsychje: .77 is in the repos?
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> arakash: feel free to also test
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: not yet for bionic no
[13:33] <blackflow> oh wait, your'e talking about 390.77, not 396
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: there's a bug in queue waiting to get pushed
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> indeed
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> it might also work on that gtx
[13:33] <olis> blackflow: fun fact - when I run gnome-terminal from urxvt, I still get all my groups in gnome-terminal even though urxvt doesn't see them
[13:33] <blackflow> arakash: no, iirc the upgrade switched from 384 to 390 via nvidia-384 transitional (which actually installs 390)
[13:34] <blackflow> arakash: so if you want to test nouveau you'd have to purge nvidia-driver completely and reboot
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> arakash: just curious, wich driver does: ubuntu-drivers list reccomend for your card?
[13:35] <arakash> ehm.. sec. froze again.
[13:35] <arakash> I believe I already tried novue driver (isnt that the default?)
[13:36] <arakash> lotuspsychje: ubuntu-drivers?
[13:36] <blackflow> olis: btw how are you checking group membership?
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> arakash: yes, from a terminal: ubuntu-drivers list
[13:37] <blackflow> arakash: it's default if the proprietary driver is not installed. if it was before the upgrade, it'll continue to be installed
[13:37] <arakash> 396 and 390
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> arakash: thats showing the reccomended drivers for your card/system
[13:37] <arakash> yeah I've tried both at this point
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> arakash: ok, so i would also give a test on 390.77
[13:37] <arakash> ok
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> arakash: not the 390.48 from the repos
[13:38] <olis> blackflow: using the "id" command - but I noticed originally because I can't run "docker" commands anymore and I see a permission error due to the missing/unrecognized group membership
[13:39] <arakash> I can't find 390.77
[13:39] <blackflow> olis: any difference between output of `groups` and `groups <your-username>` ?
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> arakash: its on the graphics ppa mate
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> arakash: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[13:40] <olis> blackflow: nice one... yes, `groups` only shows my own group, while `groups <username>` shows all the groups correctly
[13:41] <olis> blackflow: in gnome-terminal, both commands have the same output
[13:41] <blackflow> yah something is dropping gid from urxvt process
[13:42] <blackflow> *GIDs
[13:43] <olis> blackflow: I've asked in #rxvt-unicode, but I suspect this may be Ubuntu specific
[13:46] <blackflow> olis: can you pastebin the output of `systemd-cgls`  --  it's a list of cgroups and slices with process membership. feel free to censor any..... sensitive information
[13:46] <blackflow> olis: do it from urxvt
[13:50] <zaggynl> Any way to stop default Ubuntu desktop from falling asleep when watching a video in firefox? Apart from using a workaround like Caffeine?
[13:51] <olis> blackflow: https://pastebin.com/0NZNs02W
[13:51] <leftyfb> zaggynl: turn off the screensaver/change power settings
[13:52] <zaggynl> I guess, was hoping for a fix, hope screen burn isn't a thing anymore with my screens
[13:52] <gogeta> zaggynl, check your power mangment settings and set sleep to never
[13:52] <blackflow> zaggynl: should happen automatically. see if something is blocking dbus calls from FF, like apparmor perhaps
[13:52] <zaggynl> oh right, I'm using ff in firejail
[13:56] <blackflow> olis: sorry, nothing screams out from that list as being off.
[13:58] <olis> blackflow: okay.... I've just found that it must have something to do with the way urxvt is started
[13:59] <Xenophon1> I want to disable the whole swipe-to-unlock/login thing for all users.
[13:59] <b3h3m0th> I cleared all my registered MOKs (including the ones I enrolled as a part of virtualbox installation) and now when I install virutalbox (which I uninstalled some time ago), it does not ask for the MOK enrollment. How do I initiate the enrollment as a part of virtualbox installation now so that I don't have to manually sign all the drivers?
[13:59] <Xenophon1> I know where in the GUI to find that setting, but how to I push that out to all users via SaltStack or Ansible or something?
[13:59] <b3h3m0th> I'm using Ubuntu 18.04 with secure boot enabled.
[13:59] <olis> In i3, I have some kind of startup script (must check in a moment). But in the standard "Ubuntu" session, I started urxvt from the start menu thingy. Then I don't have my groups. I start gnome-terminal from there - and suddenly my groups are there. Start another urxvt from gnome-terminal, and then that one has all the groups as well.
[14:00] <blackflow> zaggynl: yah, that'll be it. I don't know if there's a setting, but dbus from FF should be allowed if you want playing media to suspend screensaver" temporarily
[14:01] <blackflow> b3h3m0th: the what?
[14:02] <b3h3m0th> In simple words: Virtualbox drivers don't load on my kernel because I deleted the public key from my UEFI which was used to sign them
[14:02] <blackflow> olis: are you using gdm with i3?
[14:03] <b3h3m0th> Virtualbox installation on Ubuntu involves a step where it asks for MOK enrollment. I tried to reinstall virtualbox but that step is not being triggered. Somewhere Ubuntu maintains the info that it was installed in the past and assumes the drivers are already signed and the keys are enrolled.
[14:03] <mobile_c> is this normal?
[14:03] <mobile_c> W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/jessie/updates/InRelease  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-arm64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[14:04] <olis> blackflow: no, lightdm
[14:04] <olis> blackflow: I notice that my urxvt instances are parented by "init" - the gnome-terminal has "systemd" as its parent
[14:04] <leftyfb> mobile_c: only on Debian. Not ubuntu.
[14:05] <mobile_c> how can i fix it? https://bpaste.net/show/e3e8905b10b2
[14:05] <black_mamba> For some reason, one of my programs is not getting picked up when i'm trying to instantiate it. It's in the path, but it doesn't work?
[14:06] <mobile_c> https://github.com/multiarch/crossbuild
[14:06] <blackflow> olis: doesn't sound right, urxvt shouldn't be directly under init. zombie processes are usually reparented like that
[14:07] <blackflow> olis: and btw, gnome terminal has systemd --user session, started as the display manager's user (eg. gdm)
[14:07] <mobile_c> https://github.com/multiarch/crossbuild/blob/master/Dockerfile
[14:07] <olis> blackflow: right, I guess that's possible - these processes get spawned from i3's config script
[14:08] <blackflow> olis: they should be children of i3 or at least of the display manager. I'm not sure how ubuntu is configured for i3. when I used i3 it was with no login managers, straight out of .xinitrc
[14:09] <olis> blackflow: in any case the problem is not specific to i3, since urxvt behaves the same when started in the standard "Ubuntu" session
[14:10] <blackflow> olis:  do you ahve an .Xdefaults or .Xresource file in ~/  ?
[14:10] <olis> blackflow: yes, but I've already tried to move these files away - on change
[14:10] <olis> blackflow: *no* change
[14:10] <leftyfb> mobile_c: This is an Ubuntu support channel. Not Debian.
[14:11] <leftyfb> mobile_c: try #debian
[14:11] <blackflow> olis: is urxvt binary a suid one?
[14:13] <olis> blackflow: it's sgid, not suid
[14:14] <blackflow> olis: I think that explains what's going on here. From the manpage: "When rxvt-unicode detects that it runs setuid or setgid, it will fork into a helper process for privileged operations (pty handling on some systems, utmp/wtmp/lastlog handling on others) and drop privileges immediately."
[14:14] <blackflow> olis: that "drop privs" part... I guess it's dropping more than it should.
[14:14] <olis> I just tested the same thing on a different machine on 18.04. Log into X with the standard Ubuntu session, run urxvt from the start menu, and run `id` or `groups` - it will show only the user's own groups, no others.
[14:15] <Borw3> Hello, I just installed Lubuntu, was trying to go into lxqt, but keep getting error of /usr/bin/lxqsession not found
[14:16] <zzarr> hello!
[14:16] <olis> blackflow: good thought, but that's not it. I tried taking away the sgid flag and the result is unchanged.
[14:16] <blackflow> olis: to verify this theory you could chmod g-s /path/to/urxvt-binary          and then try starting it. It might not run at all, as it might want to handle pty/utmp and fail as it's not root.   you can revert with `chmod g+s /path/to/urxvt-bin`  . You mentioned 25 years of unix, so perhaps I don't have to tell you how to do this ;)
[14:17] <zzarr> is there a way to check if the hardware is working as it should from a Ubuntu 16.04 installation?
[14:17] <blackflow> olis: ah. k. then I'm out of ideas, sorry.
[14:17] <zzarr> I can't have any physical access to the machine, it's a rented vm
[14:18] <olis> blackflow: thanks for all your ideas, I wasn't that creative myself :)
[14:18] <blackflow> zzarr: what exactly do you want to know? in a VM the hardware is mostly virtualized.
[14:19] <olis> blackflow: at this point I'm wondering if it isn't some other process that's dropping the gid - since I'm seeing the same behavior in the Ubuntu session and the i3 one. Perhaps it's lightdm?
[14:19] <zzarr> blackflow, I wish to know if there is any filesystem problems
[14:20] <blackflow> olis: any of the parents, yes, possible
[14:20] <zzarr> the vm did remount to read-only late last year and I want to know if the disk is corrupt
[14:21] <blackflow> zzarr: there should be hints in the logs, any errors preceding ro remount.
[14:21] <zzarr> I'm building a project in Qt which some times get strange errors when connecting to postgresql
[14:22] <zzarr> my project halts with the message "GLib-ERROR **: Creating pipes for GWakeup: Too many open files" all of a sudden
[14:22] <blackflow> zzarr: which filesystem is it? which virtualization is it?   you can run `badblocks` to see if the FS sees any corrupt blocks
[14:23] <zzarr> it's a ext4 file system
[14:24] <zzarr> it seams to a xen environment
[14:24] <zzarr> running badblocks now
[14:26] <zzarr> how long does badblocks take?
[14:30] <blackflow> zzarr: depends on how large it is, how contest the host is, etc... no idea
[14:30] <blackflow> zzarr: there's -s flag for progress bar
[14:33] <zzarr> okey, thanks :)
[14:33] <zzarr> it returned nothing
[14:37] <grek69> hi im ussing ovh serwer , must install classinc kernel for docker ,
[14:38] <grek69> i isntall it remove old update-grup - can i restart serwer or i shoud configure somethink manualy - kernel ?
[14:38] <grek69> here is my confgi https://pastebin.com/MCdkb3D8
[14:39] <blackflow> grek69: what do you mean by "classic" kernel? which kernel is installed with the default image?        used to be grsec on dedicated servers, but OVH got a lawsuit for doing that and calling it Ubuntu. They yielded.
[14:40] <grek69> yes https://pastebin.com/MCdkb3D8
[14:40] <grek69> csory
[14:40] <grek69>  apt-get install linux-generic
[14:40] <grek69> no i have /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-134-generic
[14:41] <blackflow> grek69: yeah, and that should trigger initramfs and grub re-configs automatically. no need to update-grub manually
[14:41] <grek69> bot dont know taht this is all , when i restart serwer and grub not work - i have big problem
[14:41] <grek69> ok thanks so im restarting
[14:41] <blackflow> grek69: OVH has rescue mode and virtual console you can use to fix things if this or anything like this breaks
[14:42] <leftyfb> OVH also has support
[14:42] <grek69> yes but for one question i wait few days
[14:43] <grek69> i have soyoustart do support is not good
[14:43] <leftyfb> I didn't know OVH ran grsec. That thing is a beast
[14:43] <blackflow> OVH won't help with this. they're budget provider and deal only with hardware issues. anything beyond that is user's responsibility, and reinstalling software is it.
[14:44] <grek69> yes
[14:44] <blackflow> leftyfb: that got them into legal hot water with Canonical over the trademark, few years ago
[14:44] <grek69> and have own kernel without possible to run docker
[14:44] <grek69> so i must reinstall it, im not admin
[14:44] <blackflow> grek69: you know... if you want to run a public server you better become an admin or hire one. otherwise you can cause harm to others.
[14:45] <grek69> i haved admin but is gone im looking for new its not easy
[14:46] <blackflow> grek69: there's also Ubuntu Advantage service package from Canonical, if you need paid support.
[14:46] <Saeid> can setfacl or acl commands use on block device also ? or they are just for files and directories ?
[14:47] <blackflow> they use xattrs of files and dirs, so...
[14:47] <Helenah> I'm not being funny but APT is configured to bloat out systems.
[14:48] <Helenah> And it's now getting on my nerves.
[14:48] <Saeid> BlackDex, so they can't be used for block devices like dvd/cd ?
[14:49] <Helenah> And you guys say in your motto that Ubuntu is for "human beings".
[14:49] <Saeid> blackflow, I want to give an application access for write to dvd and restrict other applications for just reading from that dvd/cd device, can I use acl for this ?
[14:50] <Helenah> I find that hard to believe, a human being would find it inefficient to have to remove bloat from abundance of systems in the work environment just cause APT installed not just the bananas, but the monkeys, jungle fruits such as papaya and mango.
[14:50] <Helenah> s/systems/packages
[14:51] <blackflow> Saeid: I think so, as /dev is a (pseudo) filesystem. might need an udev rule to persist that on reboot.  can you fix that with regular users/groups tho?
[14:51] <blackflow> Saeid: I think those devices are mounted with "cdrom" group or something, put the user in that group?
[14:52] <hggdh> Helenah: this is a support channel. Go somewhere else to rant
[14:52] <Saeid> blackflow, you are true but when you put users to that group they have all access read/write to that device, I want to do it more customizable
[14:52] <blackflow> Saeid: like how?
[14:53] <Helenah> What I'm wanting to do is installed mate-session-manager, however comes with though via the Ubuntu APT repos is mate-desktop, ubuntu-mate-desktop gnome-desktop, caja, and a bunch of other junk I don't want.
[14:53] <blackflow> dvd/cdrom access is device based so you can't reall get more granular than read and/or write to /dev/...  by user/group  X
[14:53] <blackflow> Saeid: ^^^^
[14:53] <Saeid> blackflow, application x can burn to a dvd because has write access to dvd block device but application y can't burn to dvd but can read content of the dvd
[14:54] <Helenah> And it's annoying to remove these packages after they have been installed by APT just to have mate-session-manager on my system.
[14:54] <blackflow> Saeid: and both apps are run by the same user?
[14:54] <Saeid> blackflow, so you mean I can't restrict x and y applications to use a block device ?
[14:54] <hggdh> Helenah: then you can grab the source, and create a new package the way you want
[14:54] <Saeid> yes blackflow
[14:54] <blackflow> Saeid: in that case you need a MAC, like AppArmor to confine individual processes, and not users.
[14:55] <blackflow> Saeid: (f)acls won't help with programs/processes, as they're about uids/gids. a MAC (Mandatory Access Control) rule, like AppArmor's or SELinux, does that.
[14:55] <Helenah> What? Why would I reinvent the wheel?
[14:55] <hggdh> ...
[14:55] <Helenah> So I've to create packages which already exist?
[14:55] <blackflow> Helenah: gentoo has USE flags tailored EXACTLY to solve that problem.
[14:55] <Saeid> blackflow thank you so much Sir ! you helped me a lot
[14:55] <Helenah> blackflow: Brilliant!
[14:55] <hggdh> Helenah: if you do not likd what the package is doing, yes
[14:56] <Helenah> So where is that options in Ubuntu?
[14:56] <blackflow> Helenah: you need gentoo then, and the only drawback is... wel.... if you want modularity and configurability at that level, you need to wait it be compiled.
[14:56] <Helenah> I don't care about the niggles of compiling
[14:57] <blackflow> Saeid: you're welcome
[14:57] <Helenah> I used to use Arch AUR.
[14:57] <hggdh> ...
[14:57] <Helenah> and I often compile stuff.
[14:57] <Helenah> I'll consider Gentoo, thanks guys
[14:58] <Helenah> hggdh: It's okay having an attitude like that, however when people just need to "get the job done", it can be a pain for the Linux admin.
[14:58] <blackflow> Helenah: thing is, your complaint is not about APT, but about nature of pre-build binary packages. there's no way around it other thann using a source based distro designed to solve that problem easily, OR build from source with debsrc and custom rules.
[14:58] <hggdh> Helenah: thank you. Now please either get in topic, or leave.
[14:58] <Helenah> blackflow: I think I'd rather switch back to Arch/Gentoo
[14:58] <Helenah> They made my life 100x easier
[14:58] <blackflow> Helenah: good luck, those are awesome distros.
[14:58] <Helenah> Thank you very much
[14:59] <Helenah> hggdh: I am being ontopic. Don't tell me I'm being offtopic when a member of the Ubuntu community recommended to me source-based distros such as Gentoo.
[15:14] <olis> So, that problem from earlier - turns out xterm behaves the same way. My user is a member of ~10 groups. I run xterm or urxvt from standard Ubuntu login session, and then `id` or `groups` - this gives me only one group. Do the same in gnome-terminal and all groups come up.
[15:15] <olis> It seems clear that lightdm or some other process drops the gid. Does that happen on purpose? And also, how does gnome-terminal get the groups back? Weird. Bug?
[15:16] <olis> This happens on two different machines running 18.04. Can anybody reproduce?
[15:18] <tomreyn> olis: this bug has already been filed. let me see if i can find it for you
[15:18] <olis> tomreyn: cool! :) Pity you weren't here earlier!
[15:19] <tomreyn> olis: please check whether this is bug 1784964
[15:20] <klandri> Sup, I got a new Lenovo Legion Y530 and have been running into some wifi problems using Ubuntu 18.04. On my university's eduroam (WPA2 enterprise, PEAP) the wifi seems to work just fine until it drops seemingly randomly, especially when using a lot of bandwidth (downloading larger files, HD YouTube videos, etc.). The wifi works fine when using the Windows partition and the Linux wifi also works fine on my home wifi. It does not
[15:20] <klandri> seem to be related to signal strength at all. I can reenable the connection just by reconnecting through the gui or by '$ rfkill block all && rfkill unblock all'.
[15:20] <klandri> I found someone with seemingly the exact same problem on the Arch Forums:
[15:20] <klandri> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=230992
[15:20] <klandri> His solution was to disable a competing service to NetworkManager. I ran the commands to list active services and the results can be found here:
[15:20] <klandri> https://pastebin.com/1HZh97RZ
[15:20] <klandri> Are there any conflicts there? I couldn't find any. It's also worth noting I had the exact same problem on my old laptop, also a Lenovo laptop but it ran Arch. I was hoping Ubuntu on a new laptop would solve the problem but apparently not. In the following paste is info from '$ lspci -v' and '$ iwconfig'. I doubt the network card is relevant because the other laptop with the same problem had a different one.
[15:21] <klandri> https://pastebin.com/24rLx3dq
[15:21] <klandri> Anyone got any clue?
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> klandri: system up to date to latest?
[15:21] <klandri> yes
[15:21] <olis> ubottu, tomreyn - thank you, that description includes a number of other scenarios, but it certainly sounds very much like what I'm seeing
[15:22] <tomreyn> olis: and if so, and if you have a launchpad account, too, or don't mind creating one, please add yourself to the list of affected users, too, and try whether the workaround works for you (no need to comment if it does)
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> klandri: .33 kernel right?
[15:22] <olis> tomreyn: will do, thanks
[15:22] <klandri> $ uname -a   Linux klandrilapbig-PC 4.15.0-33-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 15 16:00:05 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> klandri: allright, tnx for check
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> klandri: have you tryed another atheros firmware yet?
[15:23] <tomreyn> olis: if the workaround works for you, this increases the chances it's the same root cause. but if you are just a little unsure, please file a separate bug report.
[15:23] <klandri> no I did not think of that and honestly don't know how I would
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> !atheros | klandri
[15:25] <klandri> I already tried installing from git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> klandri: see also this bug mate: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1768912
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> klandri: yes, that was also a good idea
[15:26] <klandri> that does not seem to be it
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> klandri: but the main goal, is to fix the current linux-firmware & kernel on official repos
[15:27] <klandri> the wifi does not automatically reconnect in my case and still works on all networks but this specific enterprise eduroam one
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> klandri: so perhaps try to affect yourself to the bug also, tell your story to it
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> klandri: this is the howto for atheros: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros?highlight=%28ManufacturerModel%29
[15:30] <olis> tomreyn: I've read the whole thing carefully but I'm not sure what part of it is the "workaround" you're referring to
[15:33] <olis> tomreyn: I can definitely see the same behavior regarding /proc/<pid>/loginuid, i.e. 0xffffffff instead of actual user id - as mentioned in the bug report
[15:34] <ausjke> just upgraded to 18.04.1, laptop gui stuck at reboot, had to unplug external monitor to reboot, then plug the extended monitor back in, for each reboot I will have to do unplug/plug, no kernel error message etc
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: your graphics card chipset please?
[15:37] <ausjke> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108M [GeForce GT 630M] (rev a1)
[15:38] <ausjke> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[15:38] <ausjke> actually i dont know which video "card" ubuntu 18.04 is using
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: can you access your ubuntu desktop at the moment?
[15:38] <ausjke> yes
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: can you see wich drivers reccomends from terminal: ubuntu-drivers list please
[15:38] <ausjke> 16.04 worked fine for the last two years
[15:39] <ausjke> nvidia-340
[15:39] <ausjke> nvidia-driver-390
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: the nvidia packages have changed a bit for 18.04, we will help you through
[15:39] <ausjke> lotuspsychje: thanks
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: is 390 currently in use?
[15:40] <ausjke> not sure, how can I tell
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: sudo lshw -C video, at the bottom after driver=
[15:41] <ausjke> video                  45056  2 nouveau,i915  (lsmod)
[15:42] <ausjke> lshw should both nvidia and intel graphic card, nvidis is : GF108M [GeForce GT 630M]
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: ok we will first try the 390 from the ubuntu repos, if that doesnt work properly try the 390.77 from the ubuntu graphics ppa
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: so first: sudo apt install nvidia-driver-390
[15:43] <ausjke> installing,...
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: great, after installing and reboot, if you cant enter you can !nomodeset to get in and sudo apt purge nvidia* to fallback to nouveau
[15:44] <ausjke> after that should I just reboot? it's working fine otherwise, it's the reboot/plug/unplug that has issues
[15:44] <ausjke> ok
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: but try reboot first and come back here ok
[15:46] <ausjke> sure. thanks
[15:46] <BluesKaj> sounds like optimus, mvidia cards ending in M are usually part of that hypbrid gpu system
[15:46] <BluesKaj> nvidia
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> yeah its an optimus BluesKaj
[15:48]  * BluesKaj backs off :-)
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: always nice to have back up :p
[15:49] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, to me optimus working on linux is mostly hit or miss, a gamble
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: from the xenial days, optimus cards worked like a charm by auto install nvidia-prime its not like bumblebee days anymore
[15:51] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, yeah, as long as the intel gpu is blacklisted :-)
[15:52] <ausjke> lotuspsychje: no luck, still stuck before the login promt on the screen, mouse stuck too, as it used to be
[15:52] <ausjke> ssh always works
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: can you tell me at wich point exactly your stuck?
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: you can press F1 to see text boot
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: perhaps there's another problem going on
[15:54] <ausjke> right before the login UI shows up I feel, dmesg all clean, ssh works, let me walk over try F1(is it alt-f1, ctl-alt-f1?)
[15:54] <ausjke> if unplug the extended monitors it will boot up fine i believe
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: at ubuntu boot logo dots, F1
[15:54] <tomreyn> olis: i guess 'workaround' is maybe not the right term to use here. comment #25 discusses how switching to a tty before logging in on the graphical desktop can temporarily work around the issue.
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: ctrl alt f1 is for tty
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: maybe if we lucky, we can see last text/error when your stuck
[15:56] <ausjke> keyboard/mouse are dead
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[15:56] <ausjke> since i can ssh-in, any X related log I can check
[15:56] <tomreyn> olis: that's comment #5, not #25, sorry
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: you sure its not a cable issue or so, it all started after upgrade to 18.04.1 right?
[15:57] <ausjke> yes, absolutely, long time ubuntu users, 16.04 worked fine, unplug-plug is the workaround after a few  tests
[15:57] <tomreyn> olis: since you also see what appears to be an off-by-one issue in /proc/<pid>/loginuid i'm inclined to think you're affected by the same bug
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: can you also check what you login into? unity xorg or wayland?
[15:58] <ausjke> will it be a good idea to use intel graphic instead? never really trusted nvidia/ati drivers, always have some issues
[15:58] <ausjke> lotuspsychje: how to check that
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: you can surely try falling back to nouveau as a test sure
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: when you type your username at login, press the little gear icon
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: default should be xorg
[15:59] <ausjke> can't do that right now as i'm sshing
[15:59] <ausjke> dmesg said "nvidia-uvm: Loaded the UVM driver in 8 mode, major device number 241"
[15:59] <ausjke> ACPI Warning:
[15:59] <ausjke> ACPI: If an ACPI driver is available for this device, you should use it instead of the native driver
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: ok try sudo apt purge nvidia*
[16:00] <ausjke> ghome-shell runs at 100% when this happens, it once cause 'overheat' in dmesg when it gets stuck
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: lets fall back to nouveau to see if you get GUI
[16:00] <ausjke> ok, should be
[16:02] <olis> tomreyn: ah yes, I see what you mean with the login sequence. I'll double-check that, but I don't really doubt at this point that I'm seeing the same issue.
[16:02] <olis> tomreyn: Thanks for your help!
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: im going on souper first, ill be back in a bit
[16:07] <ausjke> reverted, stuck as usual, unplug extend monitor, rebooting. top showed 'gdm gnome-shell' takes 100% cpu
[16:08] <ausjke> lotuspsychje: thanks, good night
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: hmm it might be something else then graphics card then perhaps
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: ask again in the channel ok
[16:09] <ausjke> ok, just did 'systemctl restart gdm.service' and the load immediately comes down
[16:17] <bipul_> I'm using this wireless adapter "rtl8821ae". And i found this is incompatible with Ubuntu 16.04. I tried this solution like git clone https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new.git
[16:17] <bipul_> but still no luck.
[16:18] <ausjke> don't really like the way applications are collapsed/cascaded/grouped under one button on the dock, anyway to unfold them?
[16:19] <ausjke> say i have 3 terminals, alt-tab used to switch to one of them, now it switches to a group of 3, so I need alt-tab, then use mouse to pick one of them, which is an extra step
[16:19] <ausjke> there is no way to unfold them into their individual buttons on the dock, sadly
[16:20] <klandri> there's a gnome extension for the alt-tab
[16:20] <klandri> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/15/alternatetab/
[16:25] <grek69> i have problem with install mysql server (reinstall) https://pastebin.com/HSDfKR16
[16:26] <grek69>  mysql-server : Depends: mysql-community-server (= 5.7.23-1ubuntu14.04) but 5.7.23-1ubuntu16.04 is to be installed
[16:30] <ausjke> klandri: very useful, thanks
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> ausjke: did you get in now?
[16:40] <eelstrebor> not sure if i should ask this here but how can gparted be used to create an MSR partition? i don't see any flag options for MSR in gparted
[16:41] <eelstrebor> so far i haven't found anything thru a web search that addresses this issue
[16:41] <WiseMonk> Hello, I need some help installing my WiFi Stick. I used the following driver: https://github.com/chenhaiq/mt7610u_wifi_sta_v3002_dpo_20130916   . and it works with no problem in Debian, but on Ubuntu I get an error
[16:42] <WiseMonk> so, was the error because I used make without sudo? or what could be the reason
[17:12] <ausjke> lotuspsychje: still unplug the extended monitor, reboot(or restart gdm), login, then plug the monitor back, only reliable way, i will live with it for now
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | ausjke try this
[17:15]  * ausjke still dislikes the ubuntu UI, gnome tweaking/extension does not work well under its UI either, 1. all windows are grouped, why so as I have so many screens, i want them spread out for quick access. 2. click on a button again will not minimize the window, i have to find the mimimize button to do that, so ubuntu UI adds more steps for the same frequently used actions, not good, back to gnome classic
[17:15] <ausjke> which was what i did with 16.04
[17:18] <ioria> ausjke, if you don't like the deault launcher you can pick another
[17:18] <ioria> *default
[17:19] <ausjke> ioria: yes installing gnome-session-flashback, light-weight, legacy but best for productivity, for me at least :)
[17:20] <ioria> ausjke, weel, i said 'launcher' not DE :þ
[17:21] <ausjke> ioria: how? gnome-tweak and extensions do not work well per my test
[17:21] <ausjke> the grouping-all-tasks really hurts
[17:21] <ioria> ausjke, i agree about extensions ...
[17:21] <ioria> ausjke, yo can ungroup them, but you need a custom .desktop
[17:23] <ioria> ausjke,  plank is a good (ungrouping) launcher : it's the budgie default
[17:32] <ausjke> ioria: will try later, back to gnome flashback, quick and easy to use :)
[17:32] <ioria> ausjke,  yes
[17:33] <ausjke> thanks for whoever kept flashback updated
[17:46] <ibispi> can i install ubuntu just by loading the .iso file? or do i have to write it onto a cd/usb?
[17:47] <idlemind> I installed a package from the command-line (downloaded deb). after removing it i cannot install it directly from "universe" now that I've enabled it. help.
[17:47] <hggdh> idlemind: details, please
[17:48] <idlemind> hggdh sudo apt install ./php7.2-mbstring_7.2.7-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_amd64.deb
[17:48] <teward> idlemind: what error messages do you get?
[17:48] <idlemind> then i realized it was available in universe
[17:48] <idlemind> so i enabled universe
[17:48] <hggdh> ibispi: you need to be able to *boot* under the ISO, so you will need the ISO imaged into a CD/USB. Unless you are installing UBuntu in a vistual machine within your computer
[17:48] <beterraba> guys, i think i broke my ubuntu
[17:49] <beterraba> after trying 'sudo apt upgrade'
[17:49] <beterraba> i get this:
[17:49] <beterraba> https://pastebin.com/mTzezCVQ
[17:49] <beterraba> plz help!
[17:49] <ibispi> right, thanks hhhdh
[17:49] <idlemind> teward hggdh https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JG7YYZDWHh/
[17:49] <beterraba> i think it might have something to do with 'hplip'
[17:50] <hggdh> idlemind: when you use apt install you need the name of the package, not the deb
[17:50] <idlemind> Yup; is it correctable if I installed 1 package that way?
[17:50] <teward> hggdh: php-mbstring is a metapackage
[17:50] <idlemind> or do i need to wipe and reinstall
[17:50] <teward> idlemind: show the output of: apt-cache policy php7.2-mbstring
[17:51] <idlemind> teward hggdh https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K9tq62qPZj/
[17:52] <idlemind> Ahh might be something else entirely
[17:52] <idlemind> teward hggdh https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TpxdqH6wRb/
[17:53] <teward> looks like you've been mixing and matching PHP package versions
[17:53] <hggdh> beterraba: try apt -f install
[17:54] <hggdh> beterraba: if it does not work, give us the full output in a pastebin
[17:54] <beterraba> hggdh: it didn't work, let me past it to you
[17:54] <beterraba> one sec
[17:54] <teward> idlemind: do you have the bionic-security repo enabled?
[17:55] <idlemind> teward https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fQZhY4WVd5/
[17:55] <beterraba> hggdh: here it is https://pastebin.com/f4ehxqmp
[17:55] <idlemind> php was installed with sudo apt-get install php
[17:57] <teward> idlemind: can you `sudo apt-get update` then show the output of `apt-cache policy php7.2-common php7.2-mbstring php7.2`?  I think something's odd with your repository data
[17:57] <hggdh> beterraba: what is the output of dpkg -l hplip-data?
[17:58] <beterraba> hggdh: this one: https://pastebin.com/2fd1BffX
[17:58] <idlemind> teward https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gDNkkT2NZ2/
[17:58] <beterraba> i dont mind removing hplip
[17:58] <beterraba> but i just can't
[17:59] <hggdh> beterraba: did you manually remove anything? Like, say, /usr/share/hplip?
[17:59] <beterraba> no no
[17:59] <idlemind> doesn't seem to see the 7.2.7 version of the php7.2-mbstring pacage (seems to exist per the website)
[18:00] <hggdh> beterraba: sudo apt install --reinstall hplip-data
[18:00] <beterraba> hggdh: i tried 'sudo apt remove hplip' but the same pattern of error occours
[18:01] <beterraba> hggdh: maybe it worked
[18:01] <beterraba> i found that when installing virtualenv
[18:01] <beterraba> let me try that again
[18:02] <beterraba> i think its ok now
[18:02] <beterraba> what was that?
[18:03] <hggdh> beterraba: someone (hint: you?) removed part of hplip-data manually
[18:03] <hggdh> beterraba: *outside* of apt, or other package management program
[18:03] <coz> ah oh
[18:03] <beterraba> im the only one with access to this machine. im neither that hacker nor that noob to do that myself hahah
[18:04] <beterraba> thanks for your attention bro!
[18:04] <hggdh> beterraba: yw
[18:04] <beterraba> peace and love for u <3
[18:04] <idlemind> teward hggdh there we go i think ... needed universe in the sources.list for updates / security
[18:05] <grek69> hi after upgrade ubuntu from 14 to 16.04 i cannot install mysql here is informations https://serverfault.com/questions/928187/mysql-server-install-error-mariadb-client-depends-mariadb-client-10
[18:07] <teward> idlemind: ah, yep that should fix it
[18:07] <teward> idlemind: sorry my coworker was bugging me about something work related :|
[18:07] <idlemind> teward ypu thx did the trick
[18:07] <idlemind> no worries
[18:07] <idlemind> now to figure out php-mcrypt
[18:07] <ikonia> that's obsolete isn't it
[18:07] <teward> it should be yes
[18:08] <ikonia> 7.1 it was officially ended
[18:08] <ikonia> although it looks like it's not been maintained since 5.6
[18:08] <LittleHairyRat> Hi! I would have a quick quesion about PPAs.
[18:09] <ikonia> LittleHairyRat: just ask
[18:12] <LittleHairyRat> Security issues asside. Is there any problem with hooking up a bunch of PPAs in order to keep applications up to date? For example, is there a problem if I use the official PPAs of LibreOffice, GIMP, Inkscape, Blender, etc.? Can it introduce instability or cause depemdency hell?
[18:12] <teward> !ppa | LittleHairyRat
[18:13] <teward> LittleHairyRat: Yes, they can, that's why we don't support them here for the most part.
[18:13] <ducasse> LittleHairyRat: we also recommend purging them before upgrading to a new release
[18:14] <ducasse> !ppa-purge
[18:16] <LittleHairyRat> Is there a more reliable way of maintaining say LibreOffice up to date on 16.04 then?
[18:17] <hggdh> LittleHairyRat: snaps
[18:17] <LittleHairyRat> Snaps. Okay.
[18:18] <LittleHairyRat> How PPAs exactly work? Are the dependencies included in them for a given package?
[18:19] <hggdh> LittleHairyRat: they are packages just like any other. If the PPA dev did their job right, all necessary dependencies are declared.
[18:19] <teward> and are either in the repositories already or were added to the PPA
[18:19] <tomreyn> and snaps are not PPAs
[18:20] <teward> what tomreyn said :)
[18:20] <LittleHairyRat> Yes, Yes, I know. :)
[18:21] <tomreyn> ok :)
[18:21] <LittleHairyRat> I also saw that I could go into a PPA and download a .deb package manually. How are dependencies resolved in this case? Are they fetched from the PPA or do they need to be installed manually?
[18:22] <ducasse> LittleHairyRat: if they're not in the repos they need to be manually installed
[18:23] <LittleHairyRat> Doesn't a newer version of Blender for example need newer libraries?
[18:24] <hggdh> LittleHairyRat: it *may*
[18:25] <hggdh> LittleHairyRat: this is why a --say -- Blender PPA may contain *more* packages than just Blender
[18:26] <LittleHairyRat> So, what does the .deb package do then, if the newer dependencies are not in the repos? I would need to get the newer libraries from the Blender PPA, right?
[18:26] <hggdh> LittleHairyRat: yes, Again, assuming the PPA dev did the job correctly.
[18:27] <LittleHairyRat> Okay, that's the info I couldn't find on the internet. Thank you very much. :)
[18:27] <hggdh> LittleHairyRat: yw
[18:35] <cosimopiovascodi> hello
[18:35] <cosimopiovascodi> question: I have a notebook with a windos and ubuntu. I want to pass about 20 GB of data from both partitions into a usb drive. I also have an additional usb drive with live ubuntu. What would be faster: 1) boot into the ubuntu partition and do the transfer from that Os into the usb or (2) boot from liveubuntu and from there do the tranfer?
[18:36] <Euthanatos> WHy does synaptic not work?
[18:36] <Euthanatos> I'm in Gnome if that's relative
[18:37] <Euthanatos> Ubuntu used to be great.  now it's trash that breaks all the time
[18:39] <hggdh> Euthanatos: synaptics works for me without issues.
[18:39] <WiseMonk> Guys pls  i need help installing Wi Fi stick
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> WiseMonk: by default ubuntu loads the driver module for hardware
[18:40] <hggdh> cosimopiovascodi: shouldn't be noticeably different
[18:40] <Euthanatos> That makes me even more frustrated.
[18:40] <WiseMonk> i use Ubuntu 18.04 and Stick is TP-Link T2UH, and I tried all the Drivers and everytime I get compiler Error
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> WiseMonk: try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugin your stick please
[18:40] <Euthanatos> i start it, it asks for my password, it's right and nothign happens
[18:41] <cosimopiovascodi> thanks hggdh
[18:41] <hggdh> Euthanatos: what is the Ubuntu version and DE?
[18:42] <hggdh> Euthanatos: oh, DE is Gnome. Just the Ubuntu version, please
[18:43] <WiseMonk> is says :upowerd[961]: unhandled action 'bind' on /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-1
[18:43] <Euthanatos> 18.04
[18:44] <Euthanatos> 18.04.1
[18:44] <Euthanatos> user@comp:~$ sudo synaptic
[18:44] <Euthanatos> [sudo] password for user:
[18:44] <Euthanatos> No protocol specified
[18:44] <Euthanatos> Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused
[18:44] <Euthanatos> (synaptic:4864): Gtk-WARNING **: (IP Address): cannot open display: :0
[18:44] <tomreyn> !paste | Euthanatos
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> WiseMonk: try another port please?
[18:45] <tomreyn> Euthanatos: you are currently muted but will be able to speak freely shortly.
[18:45] <Euthanatos> ok apologies for that.  THanks for the instruction.  It's been a long time since I have been here
[18:45] <hggdh> wayland?
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> WiseMonk: try also sudo lshw -C network to see if your driver module has loaded
[18:46] <Euthanatos> I don't know
[18:46] <hggdh> Euthanatos: try: xhost +si:localuser:root
[18:46] <hggdh> Euthanatos: then, try sudo synaptic again
[18:47] <Euthanatos> argh it works, YOU ARE AMAZING THANK YOU
[18:47] <hggdh> Euthanatos: I think you are running under Wayland, not X. But I do not remember how to check & change
[18:48] <WiseMonk> lotuspsychje, I dont think the driver is installed cause according to many webpages, this WiFi doesnt work out of the box
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> WiseMonk: lets check why
[18:48] <tomreyn> WiseMonk, lotuspsychje: "TP-Link T2UH" is (apparently) https://wikidevi.com/wiki/TP-LINK_Archer_T2UH , so ID [148f:761a], driven by mt7610u_sta
[18:49] <WiseMonk> from last command i see, driver is not up
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: ah mediatek, that falls under ralink?
[18:49] <WiseMonk> yeah, i get compiler error when compiling the mt7610u
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> WiseMonk: is your system up to date to latest?
[18:50] <WiseMonk> that was my problem
[18:50] <WiseMonk> it compiled easily on Debian, so I dont understand why theres an error here
[18:50] <WiseMonk> yes its ralink
[18:51] <WiseMonk> yes, newest Ubuntu system
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> WiseMonk: we try to strive to making things work by default on ubuntu, instead of getting external fixes. consider a !bug perhaps
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> WiseMonk: let me see if i can find one for it
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> WiseMonk: .33 kernel right?
[18:51] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: mediatek and ralink apparently merged in 2011
[18:52] <WiseMonk> whats .33 ?
[18:52] <WiseMonk> my Ubuntu is 4.15 kernel
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> WiseMonk: your kernel yes, uname -a to check
[18:52] <WiseMonk> and the drivers I found on the internet are mostly below
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> WiseMonk: did you try the git this way? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1029704/mediatek-driver-installation-issue
[18:53] <WiseMonk> 4.15.0-33-generic
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> WiseMonk: thank you for checking
[18:54] <Euthanatos> figured it out googling the disable on wayland hggdh thanks again for that too
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> WiseMonk: i did not find relevant bugs on it, could you create one?
[18:56] <tomreyn> WiseMonk: if this computer provides an usb 2.x port, try connecting it there instead.
[18:56] <WiseMonk> im not sure if its a bug, or maybe the drivers are all deprecated. Because my Debian has kernel 4.9 where it was working
[18:56] <WiseMonk> maybe I should somehow downgrade my kernel?
[18:56] <tomreyn> you shouldnt
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> WiseMonk: did you check sudo lshw -C network yet?
[18:58] <WiseMonk> yes
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> WiseMonk: and?
[18:58] <WiseMonk> i had it on my USB 2
[18:59] <WiseMonk> it didnt show up that one
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> WiseMonk: does it list driver=
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> bipul: move the hwe kernel for your realtek
[19:00] <bipul> lotuspsychje:  How?
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> !hwe | bipul
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> bipul: 4.15 should fix the realtek on xenial
[19:01] <bipul>  i came here to disccus about it.lotu Thank you.
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> bipul: yeah i saw you earlier
[19:01] <bipul> sorry
[19:02] <WiseMonk> it shows the driver for the ethernet and the builtin wifi chip (which doest have enough range for my use)
[19:02] <bipul> Yes, many things got stuck.
[19:02] <bipul> I'm using it as base machine.
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> WiseMonk: i would go for the bug, helping yourself & the community for your chipset
[19:05] <tomreyn> https://github.com/adventureloop/mt7610u_wifi_sta_v3002_dpo_20130916 has newer patches on top of Myria-de/mt7610u_wifi_sta_v3002_dpo_20130916
[19:06] <WiseMonk> ok, let me check that out, before send bug
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> WiseMonk: i would send the bug anyway, even if you fix it, you can add the way you solved it
[19:08] <tomreyn> also this https://github.com/Amineahd/mt7610u_wifi_sta_v3002_dpo_20130916/ and this https://github.com/luchsh/mt7610u_wifi_sta_v3002_dpo_20130916/ and this https://github.com/Anty0/mt7610u_wifi_sta_v3002_dpo_20130916/
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> the age of git :p
[19:10] <WiseMonk> send bug about the compiling error? or about not working out of the box? BTW the one i used on Debian was https://github.com/chenhaiq/mt7610u_wifi_sta_v3002_dpo_20130916  and the Error I get on Ubuntu is: ./include/linux/string.h:340:4: error: call to ‘__read_overflow2’ declared with attribute error: detected read beyond size of object passed as 2nd parameter
[19:10] <WiseMonk>     __read_overflow2();    maybe someone can understand what that mean^^
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> WiseMonk: not working out of the box: ubuntu-bug network-manager
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> WiseMonk: the compiling part is actually for the maintainer of the git
[19:31] <WiseMonk> this one : https://github.com/Amineahd/mt7610u_wifi_sta_v3002_dpo_20130916/   seems to have compiled correctly
[19:31] <WiseMonk> if I launch "sudo make install"  how will I be able to undo in case that its not working?
[19:32] <teward> !checkinstall
[19:32] <teward> WiseMonk: ^
[19:32] <teward> use checkinstall
[19:42] <WiseMonk> alright, thanks everyone, im gonna check out everything now :)  , cya
[19:42] <sergedx> Hi. Is there a report for this bug on launchpad? Desktop icons are overlapping: https://prnt.sc/knjf4b
[19:45] <sergedx> or, better say, what package is responsible for rendering desktop icons? nautilus, right?
[20:22] <marcogmonteiro> hi guys
[20:23] <marcogmonteiro> does any of you know if this is still correct for version 18.04? https://www.howtogeek.com/203952/how-to-automatically-remember-running-applications-from-your-last-session-in-ubuntu-14.04/
[20:24] <marcogmonteiro> or even better, you know if I can have the system ask me if I want to save the current state or not before shutting down?
[20:30] <marcogmonteiro> sorry just dc for a bit
[20:33] <Bashing-om> marcogmonteiro: xubuntu is what I use for the GUI .. and it has that ability .
[20:37] <marcogmonteiro> Bashing-om you mean choosing to save the session on shut down?
[20:37] <Bashing-om> marcogmonteiro: Yes, and on restart what you had is what you get .
[20:47] <githus> hi guys
[20:47] <githus> i have a question. How can i chance ubuntu 18.04 9 dot button to a classic ubuntu buttor. i hate this one
[20:50] <ikonia> 9 dot button ?
[20:54] <arooni> anyway to switch audio output [easier than loading of pauvcontrol] ?  thanks!
[20:58] <githus> this icon for aps
[20:59] <ikonia> what are you talking about ?
[21:00] <leftleg_> the Show Applications button
[21:00] <leftleg_> is what he is talking about
[21:00] <ikonia> what's wrong with it though ? I hadn't noticed a change in it
[21:01] <AeternusIgnis> Hi, can someone help me about internet login issue?
[21:01] <githus> i just want to set classic button of ubuntu logo
[21:01] <ikonia> what classic button ?
[21:01] <ikonia> AeternusIgnis: try to exaplin your problem please.
[21:02] <AeternusIgnis> I live most of year in a college, for access internet i need to login in a webpage, like hotels
[21:02] <AeternusIgnis> A simple redirect that doesn't work
[21:02] <githus> like a classic look, not this 9 dots thing. i just want to change show applications button
[21:03] <ikonia> githus: so you just want to change the look of the icon ?
[21:03] <ikonia> AeternusIgnis: that doesn't sound like an ubuntu problem from your first description
[21:03] <githus> yes! that's what i mean
[21:03] <AeternusIgnis> Yes, in 16.04 works, in 17.10 and 18.04 not
[21:04] <ikonia> githus: can you not just change it in properties
[21:04] <ikonia> AeternusIgnis: what doesn't work about it ?
[21:04] <ikonia> AeternusIgnis: is the URL wrong, what error does it give, what is the actual problem
[21:04] <AeternusIgnis> I cannot reach the login page
[21:04] <ikonia> AeternusIgnis: what do you put into the browser, and what error do you get ?
[21:04] <githus> i cant find this
[21:05] <AeternusIgnis> Do you understand what type of login I talk about?
[21:05] <ikonia> AeternusIgnis: I think I do, basically the standard internet portal page for public interenet type services
[21:06] <AeternusIgnis> Exactly, without redirecting I cannot do anything
[21:07] <ikonia> what happens when you try to connect
[21:07] <AeternusIgnis> Nothing, eternal login
[21:07] <ikonia> what do you mean external login
[21:07] <ikonia> if you get an external login, that's a good thing, that's your login page isn't it ?
[21:07] <AeternusIgnis> Sorry, eternal loading
[21:08] <ikonia> what do you mean by external loading ?
[21:08] <me-1> hi....what version of ubuntu I can install on my core 2 duo , 3 gb ddr2 ram and nvidia 310 graphic card..?
[21:08] <AeternusIgnis> Endless
[21:08] <AeternusIgnis> Not external
[21:08] <ikonia> AeternusIgnis: so the page just never loads
[21:08] <AeternusIgnis> Exactly
[21:09] <ikonia> AeternusIgnis: is this a public internet service eg: a public ISP, or is this a private internet service that offers it's service via a captive portla
[21:09] <AeternusIgnis> Private captive portal
[21:09] <ikonia> me-1: current version should work
[21:09] <AeternusIgnis> Cubalibre, I think Italian service
[21:09] <ikonia> AeternusIgnis: so if you put in the default gateway ip address into your browser, I'd put money you get the login page
[21:10] <AeternusIgnis> Nope, I tried
[21:10] <AeternusIgnis> I'm not so ignorant in matter
[21:10] <ikonia> whawt happens if you put the default gateway in
[21:10] <AeternusIgnis> Even the endless loading
[21:11] <me-1> ikonia, dafault ubuntu 64 bit will work or I should look for 32 bit with lighter DE,,?
[21:11] <ikonia> AeternusIgnis: that suggests to me you're not actually connected to the network then
[21:11] <ikonia> as it would time out in a browser
[21:11] <ikonia> me-1: it will work - the performance will vary depending on what you do
[21:11] <ikonia> lubuntu and xubuntu have a lighter desktop,
[21:12] <AeternusIgnis> Ok, thank you, I don't understand if the problem is my English or your understanding of my problem, so secure is my English
[21:12] <ikonia> you're english is fine, I think I understand
[21:12] <ikonia> I'm pretty sure I understand your problem
[21:14] <AeternusIgnis> No, you doesn't understand, I'm connected to the network! I need to be redirected to this bloody login page and in Windows and 16.04 works
[21:14] <ikonia> I do understand just fine
[21:14] <AeternusIgnis> But I want to update
[21:14] <ikonia> but you're saying "endless loading"
[21:15] <ikonia> if the service is available but not redirecting, you'd get a time out / error
[21:15] <ikonia> you're not getting that, so it suggests to me that you're not actually getting an intial connection to start the redirect
[21:15] <ikonia> which is normally because you're not connected to the network at some level
[21:15] <AeternusIgnis> How I can try?
[21:16] <ikonia> you can prove this by using the developer tools in your browser to see if you get any for of http response or response code
[21:16] <ikonia> clear that I understand now ?
[21:20] <marcogmonteiro> Bashing-om just tested it on my ubuntu install.. doesnt do anything :) rebooted and it started a new session no app that I had previously open was already open for me
[21:23] <Bashing-om> marcogmonteiro: Sorry . never had an issue with it myself .. do not know what to do in your case . If ya have the "save session" box checked at the logout screen, should workie .
[21:24] <marcogmonteiro> yeah it should
[21:25] <Bashing-om> marcogmonteiro: Has been a while since I set up to save my session, seems I recall there is another settting . But off the top of my head I do not recall where .
[21:27] <ses1984> i upgraded to 18.04 and i don't have a usable desktop environment. i just see a background with no cursor or anything
[21:28] <ses1984> i tried to log in to a text terminal and restart lightdm -- then i see an "unlock" widget but after i enter my password and unlock, i'm back to just the background
[21:28] <pheni>  time to switch to cli only
[21:29] <pheni> ses1984, have you seen this https://askubuntu.com/questions/1031948/cant-start-ubuntu-desktop-after-upgrade-to-18-04
[21:31] <ses1984> rebooting let's see what happens
[21:32] <Bashing-om> marcogmonteiro: check here : Settings > Session and Startup > General > Automatically save session on logout ...
[21:50] <Wafficus> hey question for Lubuntu, what's a good multiplexer terminal with color themes, transparency, and good shortcuts?
[21:58] <ducasse> Wafficus: find a decent terminal and use tmux or screen?
[21:59] <bieb_> I have a lenovo 710s desktop with sual display ports. I am trying to setup dual monitors in ubuntu18.04. Lenovo doesn't offer support for linux, but the tech I spoke to said it needs to be setup in the driver for the video card and that it would be 3rd party product support that is needed in Ubuntu. How do I find the driver to update to new one, or to see if the driver supports dual monitors already?
[22:06] <tomreyn> bieb_: you can configure your displays by clicking on 'Activities' on the top left corner, then typing 'displays'
[22:06] <wad> Hey guys. I'm not sure why I'm having so much trouble with this, I must be missing something! I get to the screen with an "add a printer" button. I click it. A "searching for printers" dialog shows up, with one entrry: "CUPS-BRF-Printer". That's not the one I want. There is a box at the bottom to enter a network address.
[22:06] <wad> I put in "<IP_ADDRESS>".
[22:06] <wad> But at this point I'm stuck. There is no "make it so" button anywhere.
[22:06] <wad> It just sits there.
[22:06] <bieb_> tomreyn, it doesn't show me the second monitor. Just one of them
[22:07] <tomreyn> bieb_: does 'xrandr', run on a terminal, list both monitors? can you post its output?
[22:07] <bieb_> one sec
[22:07] <tomreyn> !paste | bieb_
[22:07] <tomreyn> !pastebinit | bieb_
[22:08] <coz> wad, Make it so button?
[22:08] <wad> Something like, "Save", "Okay", "Continue", etc.
[22:08] <coz> wad,  when you right click, yes?
[22:08] <tomreyn> wad: is there are green button on the top right of this window ?
[22:09] <coz> oh a window
[22:09] <bieb_> tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YnXBMsCx37/
[22:09] <wad> Only for this "CUPS-BRF-Printer" one.
[22:10] <wad> I don't know what that is for, but it sure doesn't look anything like the HP Laserjet 4350tn that I'm trying to connect to.
[22:10] <tomreyn> bieb_: so this lists just one connected monitor, on a hdmi port. how is the other monitor connected?
[22:10] <wad> When I select the BRF one, I get a green ADD button.
[22:10] <wad> But it just ignores the IP address of the printer I want. ???
[22:12] <bieb_> tomreyn, what's strange is they are both plugged into the DP ports with a converter cable from dp->dvi
[22:12] <wad> I press ENTER a bunch of times, this dialog just sits there.
[22:12] <wad> I'll take a screen shot.
[22:13] <bieb_> tomreyn, this cable https://www.startech.com/AV/Displayport-Converters/DisplayPort-to-DVI-Adapter-Cable~DP2DVI
[22:13] <tomreyn> wad: return to main printer settings, click on additional printer settings, click add, select 'network printer' or 'enter uri'
[22:14] <wad> http://wadhome.org/~wad/files/brf.png
[22:14] <wad> Okay, I'll try that.
[22:14] <tomreyn> bieb_: whats your graphics card(s) / chipsets?
[22:15] <wad> It won't take the IP address bare. It insists I enter a schema too.
[22:15] <wad> Is it ipp:// ?
[22:15] <tomreyn> wad: usually, yes
[22:17] <bieb_> tomreyn, https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/desktops-and-all-in-ones/thinkcentre-m-series-desktops/thinkcentre-m710s/10m7/10m7000sus/mj05z6tt?linkTrack=Homepage%3ABody_Search+Products&searchType=6&keyWordSearch=mj05z6tt
[22:17] <wad> Okay, I'm here again. (This is the 5th time I've done this step.) It says, "Printer State: Processing - The printer is not responding"
[22:17] <wad> I submitted a test job (job #5).
[22:17] <tomreyn> wad: cups-brf is a virtual braille printer, converting standard text to braille fonts (for people who are visually impaired)
[22:17] <bieb_> I am trying ot find the actual video chipset used in this one..
[22:18] <wad> tomreyn, yeah, that's not the one I want. For some reason, it's the only one that Ubuntu finds on the network.
[22:18] <wad> So, it can't find a printer on "ipp://<IP_ADDRESS>". I was thinking it's not an "ipp://".
[22:19] <wad> This office has a bunch of crappy windows domain stuff, maybe that's interfering.
[22:19] <tomreyn> wad: if the printer is not responding you'll need a different way of addressing it, so either a different protocol than ipp or a different driver (or both). i'll need to help bieb_ first, though, for now.
[22:19] <wad> What other options are there other than ipp://?
[22:19] <wad> I've tried http://
[22:20] <bieb_> tomreyn, here are the 2 listed in the config on the website.. I dont think it is the nvidia though
[22:20] <tomreyn> bieb_: do you have the latest bios update, yet? version M16KT51A, released 23 Jul 2018? "sudo dmidecode --type bios"
[22:20] <bieb_> Up to Integrated Intel® Graphics
[22:20] <bieb_> Up to NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 730 2GB DDR5
[22:22] <tomreyn> bieb_: to find out which graphics hardware you have, run lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA
[22:22] <bieb_> M16KT39A
[22:22] <bieb_> tomreyn, Intel Corporation HD Graphics 630
[22:22] <tomreyn> ^ outdated bios, you should upgrade, if possible.
[22:24] <bieb_> tomreyn, anything else I should look at/update while doing the bios?
[22:25] <tomreyn> if you'll do it from windows, there is apparently also a tpm firmware upgrade available there
[22:26] <bieb_> tomreyn, no windows on this PC at all
[22:26] <tomreyn> bieb_: to get better support from your intel integrated graphics chipset, in addition to the bios upgrade, you should set "i915.alpha_support=1" on the grub menu.
[22:27] <bieb_> should I setup a virtual box windows machine?
[22:27] <tomreyn> bieb_: wont help, you'd need to run it bare metal for a firmware upgrade.
[22:27] <tomreyn> but the kernel option will also work without the bios upgrade.
[22:28] <bieb_> ok
[22:28] <wad> Hey, thanks for the help tomreyn! I super appreciate it. You guys rock. :)
[22:28] <bieb_> how do I add that to the grub menu?
[22:29] <bieb_> etc/default/grub?
[22:30] <tomreyn> bieb_: yes, but actually this option may be no longer needed. still worth a try, though
[22:30] <bieb_> tomreyn, what is the tpm firmware?
[22:34] <tomreyn> bieb_: tpm is trusted platform module, a mainboard chip (or firmware) for some security related applications.
[22:34] <bieb_> tomreyn, where does the i915 line get entered? is there a beginning line to it? GRUB_xxxx=i915.alpha_support=1 or just on a line by itself?
[22:34] <bieb_> ok.. I will look at how to update the bios and tpm
[22:35] <bieb_> lenovo doesnt like to give any linux info on their site.. everything is based around windows for updating.. :|
[22:35] <tomreyn> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="i915.alpha_support=1"
[22:36] <tomreyn> bieb_: there are ways to boot windows off removable storage, but that's OT here, ask in ##windows.
[22:37] <bieb_> tomreyn, I will look up how to do the updates..
[22:37] <tomreyn> (they also have free (as in beer) trial licenses and so-called pre-boot execution environments, 'PE', which can help there)
[22:39] <tomreyn> there si also ##hardware here, where you may also receive help with bios updates.
[22:39] <bieb_> tomreyn, once grub is edited, and update-grub has run, do I need to restart to see if the dual monitor support has shown up? or should it show with the update to grub?
[22:40] <tomreyn> bieb_: the "USB Drive UEFI BIOS Flash Package" should allow you to flash the bios without having to resort to windows
[22:40] <bieb_> ubuntu-hardware?
[22:40] <tomreyn> bieb_: just ##hardware
[22:40] <bieb_> awesome.. I will get that
[22:40] <tomreyn> bieb_: you will need to reboot to apply the kernel option
[22:42] <bieb_> tomreyn, Thanks for all your help... I will check back after the reboot and updates
[22:42] <tomreyn> bieb_: there is also an iso image variant of the uefi bios update, this may be the easiest option. i suggest using ethcer.io to write it to removable storage, then boot off that.
[22:42] <bieb_> ok
[22:42] <bieb_> thanks!
[22:42] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[22:43] <tomreyn> wad: whats the printer model you're trying to isntall there?
[22:44] <tomreyn> oh, HP Laserjet 4350tn, you said so before, sorry
[22:48] <tomreyn> http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_4350 lists available printer drivers
[22:49] <tomreyn> wad: ^
[22:50] <tomreyn> HP support for your printer, incl. firmware updates: https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-laserjet-4350-printer-series/412160/model/412162
[22:50] <tomreyn> HP 'hplip' driver (also available in ubuntu, but an older version): http://www.hp.com/go/LinuxPrinting
[23:11] <DouglasK> Using ubuntu 18.04.  Pressing Alt+Right (same key as for "Back" in your browser) locks the session.  I don't see that keystroke listed in the keyboard shortcuts setting.  Where can I turn that off?
[23:19] <energizer> DouglasK: that doesnt happen for me
[23:19] <energizer> weird
[23:21] <DouglasK> Indeed.  Any config file I could reset / restore to get it back to defaults?
[23:46] <EL3CTR0N> Does anyone know how to solve the dmesg error md0: Warning: Device sda is misaligned