[00:00] <Hobbsee> mwhudson: can your vague recollection remember when that was cherrypicked?
[00:00] <mwhudson> no
[00:01] <Hobbsee> recent or ages ago, or no idea?  ;)
[00:01] <Hobbsee> (wasn't asking for a particular month)
[00:01] <gmb> Hobbsee: Just reproduced it meself. Whether it's with launchpad-integration or malone I can't tell.
[00:01] <gmb> Hobbsee: I'll add a malone task for it and look into it properly in the morning.
[00:02] <gmb> Thanks for letting us know :)
[00:02] <Hobbsee> gmb: OK, cool.  I guess it is nighttime for you
[00:02] <Hobbsee> you're welcome :)
[00:02] <mwhudson> ah, i was thinking of https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-launchpad-bugs/+bug/309307
[00:02] <mwhudson> which is a bit similar, a bit different
[00:02] <gmb> Hobbsee: Just gone midnight... nice way to start the new working year :)
[00:02] <Hobbsee> haha
[00:02]  * mwhudson needs to get lunch before his stomach eats itself from the inside, biab
[00:04] <Hobbsee> gmb: ah.  if you wait, and refresh the page, it works.
[00:04] <gmb> Hobbsee: Ah, patience was never my virtue...
[00:05] <Hobbsee> gmb: neither, but I read the comments on the bug mwhudson pointed out, and the last comment said "wait, refresh, and it'll work".  Sure enough, it did ;)
[00:05] <gmb> Heh.
[00:06]  * Hobbsee assumes that means LP isn't generating the reports so quickly anymore, or similar
[00:07] <gmb> Hobbsee: IIRC (and I may not) lp-integration uploads something to the librarian. The last part of the URL is some kind of librarian file ID hash for the debug data.
[00:07] <Hobbsee> that sounds reasonable.
[00:07] <Hobbsee> (based on what it says about it gathering data to send to LP)
[00:09] <gmb> The way it behaves looks as though etiher a) the upload didn't complete before the lp-integration sent the browser to the +filebug page or b) the librarian is being shonky about new file ids.
[00:09] <james_w> gmb: launchpad is now for some reason requiring the title to be specified
[00:10] <james_w> add "?field.title=foo" to the url apport sends you to and it works
[00:11] <james_w> the only time apport doesn't set that is with the things like "Report a problem", not with the crash reports and the like
[00:11] <james_w> ah, sorry, caught up
[00:11] <james_w> it was probably just refreshing then
[00:11]  * gmb stops trying to type a coherent "wait and refresh" answer
[00:12] <gmb> james_w: Doest lp-integration wait for the upload to complete before sending you to +filebug?
[00:12] <gmb> Oh, English no work anymore.
[00:12] <Hobbsee> hehe
[00:12]  * Hobbsee hands gmb a beer.
[00:12] <Hobbsee> try that
[00:12]  * gmb drinks
[00:12] <gmb> Hobbsee: Much better, thank you.
[00:13] <james_w> gmb: I believe so, the "blob id" at the end of url is apparently returned by lp in a response header from uploading the blob
[00:13] <Hobbsee> gmb: :)
[00:13] <gmb> *headdesk*
[00:13]  * Hobbsee removes the desk, too
[00:13] <gmb> So the upload completes and then Launchpad sort of sticks its fingers in its ears and says "lalala, I can't hear you" for a bit.
[00:13] <gmb> Molto bene.
[00:13] <Hobbsee> hahaha
[00:13] <Hobbsee> it's virus scanning?  :P
[00:14] <james_w> 'X-Launchpad-Blob-Token'
[00:15] <gmb> Hobbsee, james_w: Right, thanks. I'll update the bug report. Damn proprietary software.
[00:15] <james_w> heh
[00:15] <Hobbsee> haha
[00:15] <Hobbsee> cool :)
[00:15] <jamesh> why would Launchpad do any virus scanning?  It isn't as if it tries to run attachments
[00:15] <gmb> Still, only seven-and-a-bit-moths to go.
[00:15] <gmb> Moths?
[00:15] <Hobbsee> jamesh: I was joking ;)
[00:16] <Hobbsee> mmmm....moths
[00:16] <Hobbsee> are they crunchy?
[00:16] <gmb> Hobbsee: Soft, with a chewy centre.
[00:16] <gmb> Taste of liquorice.
[00:16] <Hobbsee> hrm...
[00:16] <Hobbsee> ew.  can't stand liqourice.
[00:16] <gmb> Oh, I can't spell "month" but I can spell "liquorice"
[00:16] <Hobbsee> pity, as they started to sound appearing
[00:16] <Hobbsee> haha
[00:17] <gmb> It's catching.
[00:17] <Hobbsee> oh noes, oh noes!
[00:21] <gmb> Right, bug report updated. I'm off to bed before more of my brain fails.
[00:21] <gmb> I'll look into this first thing tomorrow.
[00:21] <Hobbsee> enjoy :)
[03:44] <MTecknology> Hobbsee: ping pong
[04:11] <jml> so, if a trac instance is running the Launchpad plugin, how do I get a Launchpad bug for an arbitrary trac bug?
[04:15] <jamesh> jml: are you talking about the case where there is a Launchpad bug linked up?
[04:15] <jml> jamesh: well, I don't know if there's a Launchpad bug linked up.
[04:16] <jamesh> jml: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/<tracker-name>/<remote-bug-id> might help
[04:17] <jamesh> if there is a matching LP bug, you'll get redirected
[04:17] <jamesh> (this is independent of any plugins on the remote system
[04:19] <jamesh> I added that URL for the Ubuntu Bugzilla migration 3 years back
[04:22] <jml> and if there isn't, I guess I'll get a 404
[04:22] <jml> (cos that's what I got)
[04:24] <jamesh> yeah.  And if there are multiple bugs, it gives you a list
[04:24] <jamesh> you can probably get a better answer if you ask at a different time
[04:27]  * jml nods
[04:27] <jml> gmb sleeps too much :P
[10:47] <faled> hi
[10:47] <faled> I have heard that multi-PPA is coming, is that true?
[10:48] <bigjools> faled: it's being implemented in stages and will start making an appearance soon
[10:48] <bigjools> it won't be fully operational for 2-3 releases of LP
[10:49] <faled> bigjools: the policy will be that each ppa have 1gb or the total will be 1gb or the policy is still not defined?
[10:49] <faled> I see
[10:50] <bigjools> faled: currently we'll do the same quota over all the user's PPAs
[10:50] <bigjools> but it can be increased on a case-by-case basis
[10:51] <faled> bigjools: the Team-PPA have the same 1gb limit?
[10:51] <bigjools> yes
[13:07] <faled> bigjools: thankyou for your answers
[15:32] <jcastro> barry: when you get a chance can you "reset" the mailing list request for ~ubuntu-pk? I declined them when I shouldn't have.
[15:33] <barry> jcastro: done.  we really should make you a mailing list expert so you can do this too
[15:33] <barry> jcastro: wait, you /are/ a mailing list expert, so i think you can do it
[15:33] <jcastro> oh, I just don't know how
[15:34] <jcastro> is there an admin page or something?
[15:43] <CarlFK> is there a way to change my lp username?  (other than creating a new account)
[15:44] <andrea-bs> CarlFK: sure: go to https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+edit
[15:44] <CarlFK> cool
[15:44] <CarlFK> will my PPA url change too?
[15:44] <andrea-bs> yes, it will, but I don't know if it will happen immediately
[15:45] <bigjools> if you have a ppa, changing your name would be bad
[15:45] <al-maisan> andrea-bs: in other words, yes.
[15:46] <CarlFK> bigjools: I havn't told anyone about my ppa yet
[15:46] <bigjools> CarlFK: does it have anything in it?
[15:46] <CarlFK> 1 thing
[15:46] <CarlFK> I can delete/recreate it easy enough
[15:46] <bigjools> delete it first before you rename
[15:46] <bigjools> but you'll need to upload a newer version
[15:47] <bigjools> then you're good to go
[15:48] <CarlFK> where do I report bugs? like the dups in " You may have used your identifier on the following       sites:  http://www.ustream.tv/, http://www.ustream.tv/, https://sourceforge.net, https://sourceforge.net.
[15:51] <bigjools> CarlFK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug
[15:58] <CarlFK> bigjools: I deleted from ppa, but dput errors: Already uploaded to ppa.launchpad.net
[15:58] <bigjools> CarlFK: increment the version
[15:59] <bigjools> you can force it paste dput with -f, but Launchpad will reject it
[15:59] <bigjools> s/paste/past/
[15:59] <mpt> leonardr, has there been any discussion of how to handle performance-related bug reports?
[16:00] <mpt> leonardr, I'm looking particularly at bug 106452 and bug 305630, both of which are general "please make Launchpad faster kthx"
[16:01] <mpt> flacoste, ^^^^
[16:02] <mpt> Normally I'm all in favor of reporting bugs about problems rather than solutions, but "Launchpad is too slow" is a problem that needs lots of unrelated fixes
[16:02] <mpt> Should there be a "performance" tag instead?
[16:05] <CarlFK> bigjools: debuild says gpg: skipped "Carl Karsten<EMAIL_ADDRESS>secret key not available
[16:06] <leonardr> mpt: a performance tag is a good first step, just gather together all the parts people complain the most about
[16:07] <bigjools> CarlFK: in the build log, or locally?
[16:12] <CarlFK> local
[16:13] <CarlFK> http://dpaste.com/105619/
[16:25] <bigjools> CarlFK: so your signing key is not available
[16:25] <CarlFK> it was a few days ago :)
[16:27] <mpt> leonardr, ok
[16:46] <al-maisan> CarlFK: this seems to be unrelated to building/uploading .. your secret gnupg is not there .. do you have a backup
[16:46] <al-maisan> ?
[16:47] <al-maisan> if so, please restore $HOME/.gnupg from backup and try again.
[16:48] <CarlFK> al-maisan: looks there to me: http://dpaste.com/105637/
[16:48] <maxb> CarlFK: Do gpg --list-secret-keys
[16:49] <al-maisan> CarlFK: what maxb said ^^
[16:49] <CarlFK> http://dpaste.com/105639/  (key listed)
[16:49] <al-maisan> Carl Karsten<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:49] <al-maisan> vs,
[16:50] <al-maisan> Carl Karsten (pythonista<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:50] <al-maisan> CarlFK: ^^
[16:55] <CarlFK> al-maisan: where did I specify my keyid?  80E61AF4  (i remember doing it, but can't see where now
[16:56] <al-maisan> which email address is used in the debian/changelog file?
[16:56] <al-maisan> in the top-most stanza?
[16:56] <cprov> CarlFK: `debuild -S -sa -k0x80E61AF4`, maybe ?
[16:57] <maxb> CarlFK: Is @dell29... a real email address? Looks like an autogenerated hostname
[16:57] <maxb> You should probably fix that email address in debian/changelog and/or debian/control
[16:58] <CarlFK> dell29 is my local box, so no
[16:58] <CarlFK> this fixed it: debuild -S -sa -k0x80E61AF4
[16:59] <al-maisan> that's good news :)
[16:59] <al-maisan> thanks cprov !
[17:00] <cprov> CarlFK: set your ~/.devscripts with DEBSIGN_KEYID="80E61AF4", it will be the default.
[17:10] <nemo> sooo, you know, an easy way to support CSS but not JS is to simply add the hide class (or hardcoded display: none style, whatever) to those expand/collapse in JS :-/
[17:10] <nemo> this comment tossed out there after hitting https://launchpad.net/~pktoss/+archive and discovering I had to disable CSS to see the packages.
[17:14] <nemo> oh, and it'd be really really really nice if launchpad exposed an ID for comments so that I can link to a comment in the context of the bug using the hash.
[17:14] <nemo> even nicer if it included a link for that, but there isn't even an ID if I view source
[17:38] <mpt> leonardr, done
[17:59] <homy> Hi! Is more than one day in the "Needs Review" status for uploaded Translation files normal?
[18:03] <mrevell> homy: It can be, yes. New files require manual review and at this time of year there may be a small backlog. danilos can you confirm?
[18:03] <beuno> mrevell, AFAIK danilos is on leave until next week
[18:04] <mrevell> thanks beuno
[18:05] <homy> ok, so I guess I'll just wait some more. Thanks.
[18:06] <beuno> homy, we'll try and get the proper people aware of it, but it may take a little bit while everyone catches up   :)
[18:06] <jcastro> barry: when you get a chance if you could point me on how to do the list admin stuff
[18:41] <soc> hi
[18:41] <soc> i want to upload my source package to my ppa, to try it, how can i do that?
[18:52] <milos_> i have register a project by mistake on launchpad. How can I delete it? I don't need it.
[18:52] <beuno> milos_, which project?
[18:52] <milos_> beuno, https://launchpad.net/mmilos
[18:53] <beuno> herb, mthaddon, can one of you nuke it  ^
[18:53] <Goundy> Guys I initialised a branch on launchpad ... etc. Now when I do commits and then: bzr push sometimes it just work
[18:53] <mthaddon> beuno: sure
[18:54] <Goundy> but sometimes It returns error: no specified location
[18:54] <beuno> mthaddon, thanks
[18:54] <milos_> beuno, mthaddon thanks!
[18:54] <Goundy> and I've to do: bzr push lp:~project/branch
[18:54] <Goundy> how come ?
[18:54] <beuno> Goundy, sometimes?  the first time you have to specify the location, from then on, for that branch, it will remember
[18:54] <mthaddon> milos_: can you ask a question on LP asking for it to be deleted and let me know the URL of the question so I can verify you're the owner of the project?
[18:55] <milos_> mthaddon, ok
[18:55] <Goundy> beuno well sometimes it works and sometimes it ask me for location that's weird :/
[18:55] <beuno> Goundy, it is. It shouldn't. This is the same branch all the time?
[18:56] <Goundy> beuno yup :/
[18:56] <beuno> Goundy, I can't think of anything that would do that
[18:56] <beuno> are you using different users?
[18:56] <Goundy> hmm
[18:57] <Goundy> beuno no one unique user
[18:57] <beuno> Goundy, what version of bzr are you using?
[18:57] <beuno> also, take a peak in ~/.bazaar/locations.conf
[18:57] <beuno> and see if the location for the branch is set
[18:58] <Goundy> beuno 1.10
[18:58] <Goundy> wow beuno I've no locations.conf :/
[18:59] <Goundy> beuno well look there's no problem I'll reinit a new local branch and retry with a fresh checkout
[18:59] <Goundy> thanks ;)
[19:00] <milos_> mthaddon, https://answers.launchpad.net/mmilos/+question/56446 would this be enough or I need to specify more info?
[19:01] <mthaddon> milos_: that's fine, thx
[19:01] <milos_> mthaddon, great :)
[19:01] <mthaddon> ok, that's done
[19:05] <beuno> Goundy, maybe there's a permissions problem?
[19:05] <beuno> do you have a ~/.bazaar dir?
[19:05] <beuno> does your user own it?
[19:06] <Goundy> beuno yep: drwxr-xr-x   2 goundy goundy     4096 Jan  4 05:13 .bazaar
[19:07] <beuno> Goundy, and if you try to push now, does it know it's location?
[19:07] <Goundy> beuno hold a second pushing
[19:08] <Goundy> beuno yes it works but it'll break later :/
[19:08] <beuno> Goundy, when it does, take a peak at ~/.bzr.log
[19:08] <beuno> you can also try and find an error now
[19:08] <Goundy> beuno okay ;) thank you man
[19:08] <beuno> if you remember roughly when it happened last time
[19:08] <soc> i have uploaded a source package to launchpad, how long will it take until it shows up in the webfrontend?
[19:09] <beuno> soc, once you get the SUCCESS email, maybe 10 minutes
[19:09] <beuno> Goundy, if you run into it again, feel free to hop into #bzr and we'll try to figure it out  :)
[19:10] <soc> ah ok
[19:10] <soc> thx
[19:10] <Goundy> beuno Okay Next time it happens I'll past up my logs and come to ask on bzr channel ;)
[19:10] <Goundy> thanks again
[19:10] <beuno> np
[19:10] <Goundy> Time to sleep ;)
[19:10] <Goundy> Good night
[19:11] <maxb> Ooh, signed PPAs are on the way? Is there progress information on how may PPAs have had keys produced yet anywhere?
[19:12] <beuno> maxb, it's being tested on a few, not sure when it's planned to be deployed on all projects
[19:13] <beuno> just *today* all the developers got back from a 2 week break
[19:14] <maxb> Oh :-/.  news.launchpad.net hinted that it was just an automated process that needed to complete churning through all the PPAs
[19:14] <ScottK> That was how it sounded to me too.
[19:15] <beuno> maybe that's the case, I know I've had to add the key for a few of them
[19:15] <beuno> but I'm not sure on the status
[19:15] <beuno> maybe the process was paused during the holidays in case any problems arised
[19:17] <maxb> https://bugs.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/125103 -- "We are depending on some hardware rearrangement for being able to generate all (1k8) keys needed. That will be done soon.".  Ah.
[19:17] <beuno> there you go
[19:38] <TABASCO> Hi
[19:38] <TABASCO> Could somebody please explain what "sprints" are?
[19:39] <TABASCO> Like it's mentioned here: http://news.launchpad.net/12-days-of-launchpad/day-two-sprints-and-meetings
[19:40] <MTecknology> So - there's no way to import a lists.ubuntu.com mailing list to LP - is there?
[19:40] <gsuveg> re
[19:41] <gsuveg> ive updatet my gpg key, how long i need to wait if it works ?
[19:41] <leonardr> TABASCO: a sprint is a real-world event where people get together in the same room and do intense work on some project
[19:41] <MTecknology> gsuveg: usually it's immediate
[19:41] <leonardr> launchpad helps you put sprints together
[19:42] <TABASCO> leonardr: Mhm, okay. That is a little weird...
[19:42] <gsuveg> MTecknology, thanks, sound like pebkac :)
[19:42] <TABASCO> leonardr: We are currently trying to translate this for the German Issue of the UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter :)
[19:43] <MTecknology> gsuveg: as much as it sucks, it's usually the case - wait 15min just to be sure. There's a way you can search for your key too
[19:43] <leonardr> TABASCO: it's a term of art in the agile world, so there is probably a standard german translation for it
[19:43] <gsuveg> Permission denied (publickey).
[19:44] <MTecknology> gsuveg: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/ <- you can search keys here
[19:44] <gsuveg> MTecknology, thanks
[19:44] <MTecknology> Coudl I get simebody to hide one of the contact emails for my team?
[19:45] <MTecknology> Else I can add a question and request it if that's preferred. We're switching from lists.ubuntu.com to LP
[19:46] <gsuveg> MTecknology, moment. for bzr push i need gpg not pgp
[19:46] <gsuveg> MTecknology, or?
[19:46] <MTecknology> yup - gpg
[19:46] <MTecknology> pgp is proprietary iirc
[19:46] <gsuveg> but keyserver not for gpg ? :)
[19:49] <MTecknology> I wonder if I'm wrong... My keys are in ~/.gnupg/
[19:50] <gsuveg> moment
[19:50] <gsuveg> for bzr push i need ssh or gnupg ?
[19:51] <beuno> gsuveg, ssh
[19:51] <gsuveg> then .ssh/
[19:51] <gsuveg> beuno, how can i test is ?
[19:51] <gsuveg> whats wrong ?
[19:51] <beuno> gsuveg, try: ssh bazaar.launchpad.net -vv
[19:51] <beuno> and see where the error is
[19:52] <beuno> have you added your public key to your launchpad profile?
[19:52] <gsuveg> beuno, yepp. thanks
[19:52] <gsuveg> of course
[19:52] <gsuveg> debug1: Authentication succeeded (publickey).
[19:52] <gsuveg> hmm
[19:52] <beuno> gsuveg, and have you told bzr your Launchpad login with:  bzr launchpad-login username ?
[19:52] <gsuveg> yes
[19:52] <gsuveg> but i've chane my ssh key
[19:53] <gsuveg> its cashed maybe?
[19:53] <beuno> not by bzr
[19:53] <gsuveg> No shells on this server.
[19:53] <gsuveg> Connection to bazaar.launchpad.net closed.
[19:53] <beuno> right, that's normail
[19:53] <gsuveg> its sound goog ?
[19:53] <beuno> *normal
[19:53] <gsuveg> good
[19:53] <gsuveg> thats right
[19:53] <beuno> well
[19:53] <beuno> what does bzr say then?
[19:53] <beuno> try adding: -Dhpss
[19:54] <beuno> to the bzr command
[19:54] <gsuveg> Permission denied (publickey).
[19:54] <beuno> and take a peak in ~/.bzr.log
[19:56] <gsuveg> beuno, i put it pastebin
[19:57] <gsuveg> beuno, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/100541/
[19:58] <beuno> ah, bzr is blowing up
[19:58] <beuno> what version of bzr do you have?
[19:58] <gsuveg> Bazaar (bzr) 1.6.1
[19:58] <beuno> and you installed from a package or from source?
[19:59] <gsuveg> i think package ;)
[19:59] <gsuveg> yes package
[19:59] <gsuveg> im renstall
[19:59] <beuno> gsuveg, sounds like a bug in bzr, care to file it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr
[20:00] <gsuveg> beuno, cool :)
[20:02] <gsuveg> beuno, im reinstall and we see
[20:02] <gsuveg> if same error bugreport
[20:03] <beuno> gsuveg, cool, thanks
[20:03] <gsuveg> yw
[20:06] <gsuveg> beuno, same :((
[20:06] <gsuveg> i cry
[20:07] <beuno> gsuveg, are you on Ubuntu?
[20:07] <gsuveg> yes
[20:07] <gsuveg> 8.10
[20:07] <beuno> hardy?
[20:07] <beuno> right
[20:07] <beuno> hrm
[20:07] <gsuveg> no hack
[20:07] <beuno> well, file the bug, and we'll see if any of the bzr developers can help find the problem
[20:07] <gsuveg> if i good remember ;)
[20:07] <beuno> I'
[20:07] <beuno> I
[20:07] <beuno> argh!
[20:07] <beuno> I've never seen that traceback
[20:08] <gsuveg> beuno, loog python on /usr/lib
[20:08] <gsuveg> not opt or usr/local
[20:08] <gsuveg> maybe pebkac ;)
[20:08] <gsuveg> s/k/c
[20:10] <gsuveg> beuno, thans anyway
[20:10] <beuno> gsuveg, np. File the bug with the traceback, and we'll figure it out
[20:10] <gsuveg> sent
[20:11] <gsuveg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/314149
[20:15] <gsuveg> i need test it on my acer one :)
[20:22] <NCommander> Question, for build-deps, do I have to wait for something to be published before dependencies can load it?
[20:26] <jkakar> rockstar: Heya.  Is there a way for me to remove a rejected branch from a project's merge proposal queue?
[20:29] <gsuveg> thanks for comment
[20:30] <gsuveg> in few min im test on acerone
[20:30] <rockstar> jkakar, set the merge rejected, or supersede it.
[20:30] <gsuveg> this is fresh intrepid
[20:35] <jkakar> rockstar: How do I do that?  I've just discovered that I can delete the merge proposal, but that will lose the history, right?
[20:36] <jkakar> rockstar: I'm trying to reject this proposal: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jkakar/lazr-js/editor-typo-fail/+merge/2513
[20:36] <rockstar> jkakar, when you're looking at the merge proposal, you see the status as Needs Review.
[20:36] <jkakar> rockstar: Yes.
[20:36] <rockstar> jkakar, you should see an edit link there.
[20:36] <jkakar> rockstar: I tried changing the status, but there was no 'Reject'.
[20:37] <rockstar> jkakar, it's Rejected apparently
[20:37] <jkakar> rockstar: I see 'Work in progress', 'Needs review', 'Merged' and 'Resubmit'.
[20:37] <rockstar> *sigh* Apparently I get to see extra stuff.
[20:37] <rockstar> jkakar, so call it Resubmit.
[20:38] <rockstar> Or, supersede that proposal with a new one.
[20:39] <jkakar> rockstar: Looks like 'Resubmit' superceded the merge proposal and created a new one. :)
[20:39] <MTecknology> So - how can I view archives of the mailing list?
[20:39]  * rockstar facepalms
[20:39] <jkakar> rockstar: I guess I can delete this merge proposal now, without affecting the previous one.
[20:40] <rockstar> jkakar, yeah.  I should look into why you can't set it as Rejected.
[20:40] <jkakar> rockstar: Yep, that worked.
[20:40] <jkakar> rockstar: Thanks! :)
[20:41] <spm> MTecknology: go to the groups page; click on the "Mailing list archive" link. eg: https://edge.launchpad.net/~launchpad-users ==> https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-users/
[20:43] <MTecknology> oh - ty
[20:43] <rockstar> jkakar, glad to have helped in some twisted and rather broken way.  :)
[20:53] <NCommander> Can PPAs handle u-debs?
[20:53] <NCommander> (i.e., if I was to toss d-i into a PPA, would I get back udeb's properly?)
[20:56] <MTecknology> If any LP admins could find some time to answer launchpad/+question/56455 I would really appreciate it.
[20:59] <cody-somerville> NCommander, best way to find out is to try ;] (I hypothesis that it can and will)
[21:00] <NCommander> cody-somerville, fun, since it seems I'll have some d-i hacking in my future
[21:04] <gsuveg> beuno, same error on my acer one
[21:06] <beuno> gsuveg, that's *very* odd
[21:06] <beuno> do you have access to any other branche sin launchpad?
[21:06] <gsuveg> beuno, but this is very pure install
[21:06] <gsuveg> beuno, not realy
[21:07] <beuno> gsuveg, *maybe* it's a problem with that branch, but I'm just guessing
[21:07] <gsuveg> beuno, i can give u access
[21:07] <gsuveg> to test
[21:08] <beuno> gsuveg, alright, go for it
[21:08] <gsuveg> msg me plz usename and password :D
[21:08] <gsuveg> sry :)
[21:08] <gsuveg> only username
[21:08] <beuno> heh
[21:08] <beuno> beuno
[21:08] <beuno> oddly enough  :)
[21:09] <gsuveg> ok
[21:09] <jkakar> rockstar: Interesting side effect of 'Resubmit' was a 'no gpg signature' failure from PQM because I'd originally bzr push'd the branch up.
[21:09] <rockstar> jkakar, are you sure that's what did it?  I get those notifications all the time.
[21:09] <rockstar> I'd like to be able to track them down.
[21:10] <jkakar> rockstar: I'm not sure, but I just got this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/100575/
[21:10] <jkakar> rockstar: I do know that I never signed the branch with bzr send or anything like that.
[21:10] <rockstar> jkakar, yea, I get those emails randomly all the time.  Landscape just barely started using PQM, right?
[21:13] <gsuveg> beuno, finisht
[21:13] <jkakar> rockstar: We're not using it yet, though I think it's almost ready for us to switch over.
[21:14] <rockstar> jkakar, that might be what's causing it to.  Maybe those all powerful LOSAs are configuring it or something.
[21:15] <jkakar> rockstar: Could be, but this was for the lazr-js project, not Landscape.
[21:16] <rockstar> jkakar, I don't see anything specific in that error that points to lazr-js
[21:16] <spm> jkakar: rockstar: we've generally seen those when your gpg key's primary email is different from the one you send from. If memory servers. pqm doesn't seem to deal well with multiple emails per key
[21:16] <spm> ... errr did that actually come across as coherent?
[21:16] <rockstar> jkakar, it's just a generic error.
[21:17] <rockstar> spm, that makes sense, is coherent, and points to the fact that pqm is a a steaming pile o' shite.
[21:18] <spm> rockstar: be fair! I've known some very nice steaming piles o' shite! ;-)
[21:18] <rockstar> spm, you've met my in-laws!?
[21:18] <rockstar> :)
[21:18] <spm> I have my own :-)
[21:23] <gsuveg> beuno, tahnks
[22:14] <maco> i'm a member of the launchpad-users group.  i receive the messages sent to the launchpad-user mailing list hosted by launchpad.  confusingly, messages i send to the list are being moderated as if i wasn't a subscriber to the list (even though i am).  any ideas what's up?
[22:14] <jml> barry: ^^
[22:16] <maco> oh...makes sense...barry's irc nick is barry
[22:16] <barry> maco: yeah, i'm sooo creative :)
[22:16] <barry> maco: what's your lp id?
[22:18] <maco> barry: maco.m
[22:18] <barry> maco: is it possible that you're sending your messages from an email address that's not tied to your ~launchpad-users membership?
[22:18] <maco> barry: no, sent it with the one i use for launchpad
[22:19] <barry> maco: oh, i recognize you now :)  hi!
[22:19] <maco> haha hi
[22:20] <maco> by the way, can i count you in for a local bug jam during the global bug jam?
[22:20] <barry> maco: i'm a bit stuck because i can't view the members of launchpad-users team (we have a bug for timeouts on teams with large memberships)
[22:21] <maco> oh...could it have anything to do with the migration that happened with the team?
[22:21] <barry> maco: it's possible, yes.  have you gotten explicitly approved since the migration?
[22:21] <barry> maco: once you've been approved for a specific list, you should never get moderated again
[22:22] <barry> (i.e. once approved, always approved)
[22:22] <maco> no, i didnt get a 2nd approval email after migration
[22:22] <maco> but you can see on https://launchpad.net/~maco.m/+participation that i'm in the team...
[22:24] <barry> maco: were you a member of that team before the migration?
[22:25] <barry> maco: i.e. team, not necessarily list
[22:25] <maco> yes
[22:25] <maco> yes, i was on both the team and the list
[22:25] <maco> and when i look at https://edge.launchpad.net/~launchpad-users it says i'm a member and subscribed
[22:26] <barry> maco: that's definitely odd
[22:26] <barry> maco: if you were a member of the team, your posts to its list should never be modified
[22:26] <maco> or....oh wait a second
[22:26] <barry> maco: unless it had a huge attachment?
[22:26] <maco> ok im confused
[22:26] <maco> i got the mailing list message to which i replied from the @lists.canonical one
[22:27] <maco> and THATs the one that sent me a bounce email
[22:27] <maco> but i *am* subscribed to that one too...and have been for months
[22:28] <barry> maco<EMAIL_ADDRESS>/should/ be forwarding to<EMAIL_ADDRESS> it's possible there's a glitch in that setup though
[22:28] <maco> barry: you know the message from shirish that you just replied to?
[22:28] <barry> maco: yep
[22:28] <maco> k, i was trying to reply to that
[22:28] <barry> interesting
[22:28] <maco> right, cuz it worked for you
[22:29] <barry> maco: dang. i didn't save shirish's original
[22:29] <barry> but yeah, that one went through
[22:29] <barry> very strange
[22:30] <barry> maco: can you forward me the bounce you got, with full headers?
[22:30] <maco> does normal forwarding include full headers?
[22:30] <barry> maco: depends on you mail client ;)
[22:31] <maco> evolution?
[22:31] <barry> maco: yikes.  i knew you were going to say that :)  i'm not sure, give it a shot
[22:31] <maco> ok
[22:32] <maco> er, the forward preview doesn't look like it. maybe i can put the email in a tar or something
[22:33] <barry> maco: maybe save the message and send me that file?
[22:33]  * barry should really fire up evolution once in a while
[22:34] <maco> that's what i did
[22:36] <maco> (that means "sent" by the way)
[22:36] <barry> maco: got it.  looking...
[22:37] <barry> maco: okay, that's downright bizarre
[22:38] <barry> maco: i have no idea why that happened to you
[22:38] <barry> maco: do you still have your original response to shirish's message?  if so could you also forward that to me the same way?
[22:39] <maco> sent
[22:52] <MTecknology> Is it possible to pull only one portion of a bazaar branch?
[22:53] <maco> MTecknology: i think you can just add on to the path
[22:53] <maco> like if the branch includes trunk/foo/bar you could pull branch/trunk/foo/bar
[22:54] <MTecknology> aight - ty
[22:58] <MTecknology> maco: you're an LP admin, right?
[22:58] <maco> no
[22:58] <maco> not at all!
[22:59] <MTecknology> :P
[22:59] <maco> if you wanna bug me about ubuntuforums, i can sometimes help there
[22:59] <MTecknology> I was going to pester you about hiding a contact email
[23:00] <maco> nope you have to find one of the people that comes to this channel for reasons other than complaining that something broke
[23:02] <MTecknology> maco: that's what you do?
[23:02] <maco> MTecknology: in this channel? yes. i came here to complain that something mailing list related broke for me.
[23:03] <rockstar> MTecknology, maco is always complaining!  :)
[23:03] <maco> rockstar: yes, it's what i do bests :P
[23:03] <maco> i'm very good at misspelling too!
[23:04] <rockstar> I often make words plural that shouldn't be, to illustrate the silliness.  I saw nothing wrong with your initial statement.
[23:05] <MTecknology> I'm just learning about the mailing list - I like it
[23:13] <mkanat> gmb: ping
[23:35] <MTecknology> How do I add a series to a branch?
[23:54] <rockstar> MTecknology, it actually works the other way around.
[23:54] <rockstar> You add a branch to a series.
[23:54] <rockstar> Or, rather, link a branch to a series.
[23:55] <MTecknology> oh
[23:55] <MTecknology> I think I stumbled my way into getting it... even though the names don't line up right - oh well
[23:56] <nhandler> Is there a way to see what email address an @ubuntu.com or @kubuntu.org address is forwarding to?
[23:57] <MTecknology> nhandler: not unless they reply to it or you get an admin to tell you
[23:57] <MTecknology> not likely an admin will tell you
[23:57] <maco> if youre logged in and they allow their email addresses to be visible on their user page, then you can guess its probably one of the listed ones
[23:58] <nhandler> It is my address I want to check
[23:58] <maco> oh
[23:58] <maco> couldnt you just email yourself?
[23:58] <maco> and see which it goes to?
[23:59] <nhandler> After becoming an Ubuntu member, I set my primary address to my @ubuntu.com address. I just became a kubuntu member, and sending mail to that address neither bounces or makes it to my inbox


[07:08] <DonLorenzo> anybody wanna talk about sound on a Toshiba P200-ST2071? ... The alleged chip is Intel 82801G. No sound at all.
[07:08] <DonLorenzo> Anybody at home?
[07:09] <crimsun> this is not a support channel.  And you need model=laptop-eapd
[07:10] <crimsun> it's already addressed in alsa-driver hg.
[07:10] <DonLorenzo> hmmm. I know about alsa-driver. what's the hg part?
[07:11] <crimsun> read the bottom of the download page linked from the ALSA home page.
[07:11] <DonLorenzo> thanks
[01:13] <kensho> hello
[04:24] <roel_> Question, I will be buying a laptop somewhere the coming few weeks. It should be a strong laptop, because I will be doing a lot of heavy stuff like c++ development, VHDL synthesis, etc.
[04:24] <roel_> However, it should also be ubuntu-friendly and support wifi etc.
[04:24] <roel_> What brands and models should I look out for?
[04:40] <roel_> No ideas?
[05:53] <crimsun> I would avoid toshibas, but that's about it.
[06:23] <Nailor> Intel has generally good support on their chips
[06:24] <Nailor> So if you don't want any hi performance graphics, I'd stick in the intel graahics adapter (+wifi and other from Intel too)
[07:06] <roel_> dell is well supported then?
[07:06] <Nailor> Should be =)
[07:09] <roel_> k thx
[07:10] <roel_> any idea what dell models are supposed to get ubuntu preinstalled?


[06:34] <cwillu_at_work> does upstart do its own permissions checking?
[06:35] <cwillu_at_work> I think I've got /etc/dbus-1/system.d/Upstart.conf set to permit one more message through as a particular user to a particular service, but I'm getting a com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Error.PermissionDenied
[06:36] <cwillu_at_work> (without the Upstart.conf change, I get a generic dbus error instead)
[06:45] <cwillu_at_work> hmm, this appears to be something related to the (new?) session support
[06:45] <cwillu_at_work> --no-session on the kernel command line makes it work right
[10:30] <xnox> cwillu_at_work: interesting, what upstart version is that?
[11:57] <slava_dp> hey everyone. in rhel6, what's the best way to switch uid and gid for a daemon?
[11:57] <slava_dp> I'm writing an upstart job and setuid and setgid are not supported in rhel6
[13:05] <maveas> Hi guys. Does upstart emit events when a sysvinit script successfully starts? I am asking because I am about to write an upstart script for openerp and I need it to start on running postgres but I am quite new with init, both sysvinit and upstart..
[13:06] <maveas> And I don't think it does but I'm not sure
[13:07] <maveas> I am thinking upstart is watching for a exit 0 but that doesn't really tell if the job is running ?
[13:24] <maveas> Been reading a lot of documentation and from what I can understand this is how it works. Am I right? So as I need to control for a running postgres instance I could either do some pre-start code in my upstart script for OpenERP or I could create an upstart script for postgres so my OpenERP upstart script start when upstart emit that postgres is running.
[13:42] <maveas> Never mind guys. Just realised that I can do a initctl emit postgres-running from the postgres sysvinit script. :)
[13:49] <jodh> maveas: yes, that is the best method. However, you'll need to ensure you only emit that event when postgresl is actually *ready* (not necessarily the same time as when it *starts*)
[13:55] <maveas> Yeah, I'm still looking into that. :)
[13:55] <maveas> Thanks
[16:17] <SpamapS> jodh: Hey, just wanted to give you a "nicely done" on the way upstart handles logging.
[16:17] <SpamapS> jodh: I contrived a "worst case" scenario yesterday and I couldn't break upstart.
[16:18] <jodh> SpamapS: cool - good to hear ;-)
[16:18] <SpamapS> jodh: I do believe it will break down on a *REALLY* big box with *lots* of processes (like, 64 CPU w/ 10000 processes writing)
[16:19] <SpamapS> jodh: but with 1CPU, 50 processes writing as hard as they can, init was using about 20% of the CPU, with the other 80% going to the kernel handling buffer shuffling
[16:19] <SpamapS> jodh: I was wondering if we could somehow turn that into a test actually
[18:30] <pseudonymous> anyone feel like translating "service disable -my service-" and "service stop -my service-" to upstart-speak ? In ubuntu I have two services, whoopsie and cron that NEED to be dead for the purposes of a benchmark, but quick as I kill them, they reappear
[18:33] <SpamapS> pseudonymous: disable is rough, but 'service stop -my-service-' works fine
[18:33] <SpamapS> pseudonymous: don't kill them, 'service cron stop' them
[18:34] <SpamapS> pseudonymous: disable would be for reboots. For that you can 'echo manual >> /etc/init/whoopsie.override'
[18:36] <pseudonymous> SpamapS: thanks so very much, I was really losing my temper with this stuff :D
[18:47] <xnox> pseudonymous: see http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/  it actually tells one how to do that ;-)
[18:56] <maveas> You guys behind Upstart. I just want to say thank you and to hug you.. As you may have noticed I started exploring Upstart today and I love it! :)
[18:57] <maveas> It really makes a lot of sence and I hope it will become de facto on most systems. <3 :b
[18:58] <maveas> Kudos
[19:16] <pseudonymous> maveas: I couldn't disagree more </3 systemD forever and ever and ever and ever and ever.. :)  And with that, good night ! But thanks still for the effort
[19:20] <SpamapS> pseudonymous: I invite you to read the code of systemd and of upstart, and then re-assert what you are saying.
[19:21] <SpamapS> pseudonymous: I know systemd has a ton of user-sugar .. but.. buyer beware. Its got a lot of easy, not much simple.
[19:21] <maveas> There's a lot of fuss around Upstart but I think it's because people just don't understand it yet (and won't try to)..
[19:22] <maveas> He'll come around some day ^
[19:31] <SpamapS> maveas: unfortunately, the rest of the Linux world got tired of waiting for Upstart to fix their problems, and so they invented systemd.
[19:31] <SpamapS> maveas: it may take years for that to fail.. or systemd may become "the one true thing"
[19:52] <xnox> SpamapS: i wonder if you failed the double negative there. </3 is "do not love" where as <3 "do love", thus pseudonymous is on the upstart side.
[20:34] <cwillu> xnox, whatever's in precise
[20:35] <cwillu> 1.5-0ubuntu5
[20:49] <SpamapS> xnox: I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.
[20:50] <cwillu> SpamapS, </3 is a broken heart
[20:52] <SpamapS> I think pseudonymous meant <3 .. since pseudonymous was disagreeing with maveas hoping that it will become de facto on most systems
[21:42] <magicrobotmonkey> I've got a stop/killed <pid> job I can't get rid of. What should I do?
[22:55] <SpamapS> magicrobotmonkey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/406397


[01:19] <NotSatoshi> What's the easiest way to create an encrypted bootable ubuntu usb drive? Is there anyway to do this without tricking the OS?
[01:20] <NotSatoshi> and removing the hard drive?
[01:20] <oerheks> full encryption/lvm is an install option, but an USB will be horribly slow.
[01:21] <oerheks> like a boot of 5 min..
[01:21] <NotSatoshi> tails runs pretty good, was hoping for an ubuntu version of that
[01:24] <NotSatoshi> oerheks: you are talking about installing from one usb to another right? I am worried I might mess up my bootrecords on the device in the process
[01:26] <oerheks> yes, usb to usb, and you would get the question where to put the bootloader, for sure
[01:26] <oerheks> :-)
[01:27] <NotSatoshi> hmm....ok, I'll try that
[01:41] <NotSatoshi> At what point do I select encrypt home folder? I already created a user and selected require password to login...does that mean the home folder is encrypted (i am guessing no)?
[01:44] <sarnold> depending upon release, that feature may not exist any more
[01:44] <oerheks> https://computingforgeeks.com/ubuntu-focal-fossa-installation-with-screenshots/
[01:44] <oerheks> yes, advanced features https://computingforgeeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/install-ubuntu-20.04-step-by-step-04.png
[01:49] <NotSatoshi> I have to select Advanced Features to do that?
[02:10] <kantlivelong> is there no way to remove a value in nmcli interactive? I know theres mod -option val but that doesnt seem to work with set.
[04:04] <jwash> Good evening everyone. I use a VPN which requires sudo to engage via command line. Is there a way to allow a non-sudo user to start and stop the VPN?
[04:23] <isapgswell> hi
[04:23] <isapgswell> how to stop X from listening tcp  | local and unix ???
[04:23] <isapgswell> like: -nolisten tcp -nolisten local -nolisten unix
[04:25] <isapgswell> i ran: sudo ps lf -C Xorg   , and this return do show nothing about listening or not
[06:13] <ouyes> what does it mean if someone say "signatures deployed on a firewall"
[07:07] <RisingCoder> Hey party people, I have a problem I have been trying to figure out for a while and was hoping maybe someone here has experience with it.
[07:07] <RisingCoder> I am attempting to create a signed apt repository for my apt/debian packages.
[07:08] <RisingCoder> I was able to copy my old Bintray repo and get it to work but when I tried updating the gpg key and packages/release files I'm now getting this error.
[07:08] <RisingCoder> The repsitory <repository> is not signed.
[07:13] <RisingCoder> Think I might have just figured it out answer at bottom of this doc: https://blog.packagecloud.io/eng/2014/10/28/howto-gpg-sign-verify-deb-packages-apt-repositories/
[08:16] <meandrain> I have 700% - 900% load on swapd process sometimes. Any idea how make swapd use less cpu? I am on a ryzen with 12 cores / 24 threads
[08:17] <leumashm> Hi guys, im on ubuntu desktop LTS 14, im trying to connect to my synology nas. but i cant i realise its my smb version on my ubuntu desktop. how to upgrade smb version on my ubuntu desktop?
[08:17] <meandrain> https://i.imgur.com/njDR3qd.png      my swapd process
[08:18] <cbreak> leumashm: how about you get 20.04?
[08:19] <leumashm> cbreak but i have a ton of them deployed outside 100+ runing 14. and hardware can only support up to 14
[08:19] <cbreak> that sounds idiotic
[08:20] <cbreak> do you even get security updates for that?
[08:20] <leumashm> cbreak yeah it is. but will be changing all of them to vms after we virtualize all of them. thne wont have this issue.
[08:21] <leumashm> cbreak any idea how to upgrade smb on ubuntu desktop to protocol 3? so that my ubuntu desktop can connect to my synology nas?
[08:21] <cbreak> you want to change 100 desktops to VMs?
[08:21] <cbreak> as I said: I'd just update ubuntu. Newer versions come with newer samba clients
[08:35] <p0a> Hello when I run pip3 I get this error: https://termbin.com/gws1 I have python-pip3-whl installed from apt
[08:36] <p0a> nevermind I needed to delete the local version that somehow I obtained
[08:48] <JackMayol> hey guys. Rather beginner Linux user here. I have a couple of game servers around the globe running Ubuntu. Since recently a bash command doesn't give the output expected anymore and I have no clue why. This is an example which worked and now just isn't giving me any results anymore (the string is existing, I have done this with different values dozens of times):
[08:49] <JackMayol> find . -type f -name "*.profile" | parallel -k -j150% -n 1000 -m grep -H -F 'sid="1111"' {}
[08:49] <JackMayol> maybe someone could tell me what changed or what could be the reason that it's not working anymore?
[08:49] <JackMayol> thanks for the help
[08:53] <p0a> JackMayol: my advice is, make a small testcase
[08:58] <JackMayol> p0a, just made a testcase with "just" 5000 files in a dir (instead of 290k) but same issue. Tried just with find . -type f -name "*.profile" | grep -H -F 'username="DFGHJRTYU"' but still nothing
[09:00] <p0a> does find work?
[09:00] <pasiz> JackMayol: does it output anything
[09:01] <p0a> I don't see why the grep pipe is there if `find' doesn't work; bisect your command until you get to the point of interest
[09:01] <JackMayol> this here works: find . -type f -name "*.profile" | parallel -k -j150% -n 1000 -m grep -H -F "DFGHJRTYU" {}
[09:02] <JackMayol> so "DFGHJRTYU" instead of 'username="DFGHJRTYU"'
[09:02] <pasiz> JackMayol: does your find output contain word username nor uid
[09:04] <JackMayol> part of my output containing this string: <profile game_version="121" username="DFGHJRTYU" digest=""
[09:06] <p0a> How about a grep for '"DFGHJRTYU"'?
[09:06] <JackMayol> works too
[09:06] <p0a> Continue adding 1 character after another until it fails
[09:07] <JackMayol> it fails with the equal sign
[09:07] <p0a> If it's XML, why are you using grep? :P Use an xml parser
[09:08] <JackMayol> yea I know, but we don't have an admin tool for it, so I just make stuff through bash command >_<
[09:09] <p0a> So it fails at the equal sign, open up the find output with an editor and search for ="..."
[09:09] <p0a> if the search fails, see why. Inspect it yourself
[09:10] <p0a> My understanding is, you want to make sure the shell is not getting in the way, and that the file actually contains the data you are searching for
[09:10] <p0a> try to rule out 1) and 2)
[09:14] <JackMayol> I searched for username="DFGHJRTYU" in the output result file and it finds it. As I said, I have used this search command this way since a long while and never had issues until today (first time I used it again since about 2 weeks)
[09:15] <JackMayol> find*
[09:16] <p0a> JackMayol: what's the output of echo '="foo"' ?
[09:16] <p0a> is it what you'd expect?
[09:16] <JackMayol> ="foo"
[09:17] <JackMayol> yea
[09:17] <p0a> Write a bash script and store the search string 'username="foo"' in a variable $x that you pass like "$x$" to grep
[09:19] <JackMayol> ouch, I know that it's not hard but still too hard for me though. Never wrote a bash script myself *hides*
[09:20] <p0a> JackMayol: try the command without parallel
[09:20] <p0a> JackMayol: on the 5k testcase, does it work?
[09:21] <JackMayol> tried it already, no output:  find . -type f -name "*.profile" | grep -H -F 'username="DFGHJRTYU"'
[09:22] <p0a> try without -H and -F
[09:25] <JackMayol> no output either
[09:25] <limbo_> Is there an easy way of getting systemd-resolved to stop listening on port 53, and still have DNS work on the machine? Like, can I have it use a socket or something? On ubuntu server 20.04. I'm asking because I'm installing powerDNS, and that wants to use the same port, but I don't want to use it for the server's own lookups.
[09:27] <p0a> JackMayol: reduce the problem to 1 file, make sure find outputs to stdout instead of stderr
[09:27] <p0a> JackMayol: at some point, you're telling us that grep is not working. I am not believing that ;P
[09:29] <pasiz> limbo_: port doesn't make sense here, depends on /etc/resolv.conf where system asks for dns
[09:33] <pasiz> limbo_: to overwrite systemd dns settings, you could configure /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
[09:33] <pasiz> after that you restart systemd-resolved
[09:34] <pasiz> to check queryed dns servers, type "systemd-resolve --status"
[09:37] <limbo_> pasiz: what I've tried so far was using DNSStubListener=no in resolved.conf and restarting systemd-resolve. This led to it not listening on <IP_ADDRESS>:53 anymore, and DNS lookups failing. (I tried curl example.com) changing the config back and restarting made it work again.
[09:38] <pasiz> of course it would, if you don't specify where it should query
[09:39] <pasiz> there is option DNS and FallbackDNS
[09:39] <pasiz> you need to configure those
[09:40] <limbo_> pasiz: you are right, I'm an idiot. Thank you.
[09:41] <pasiz> limbo_: no, you are too fast to make changes without reading documentation ;)
[09:53] <Peyam> How do I check if a package is installed ? what is the command terminal?
[09:54] <meandrain> any idea how I look in logs using journalctl but ignoring sshd service? (I want to see logs for all other services
[09:55] <summonner> Peyam, you can use apt to list the packages installed already
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> Peyam: apt policy package
[09:55] <summonner> meandrain, if you cat the log | grep -v ssh | less
[09:56] <meandrain> summonner: there is journalctl -u service to list a service. I need a similar command but to ignore that service instead
[09:56] <meandrain> with grep I don't get coloring
[09:56] <summonner> grep --color -v
[09:56] <meandrain> also I want to use journalctl like tail
[09:57] <meandrain> summonner: Interesting, I did not knew that
[09:57] <summonner> man is your friend
[09:57] <summonner> man grep
[09:58] <summonner> for anyone that just got triggered, it's short for manual - in the "old" days, when analog modems were used, every keypress in unix was precious
[09:59] <summonner> although i'm always getting traceroute and tracert mixed up on windows/unix
[10:01] <meandrain> interesting, journalctl -f works with grep (the tail-like command)
[10:02] <Ublx> Morning, I have 2 questions today:
[10:02] <Ublx> 1. when i configure a sftp access for one folder(structure) is the rest of my system safe or are there possibilites to access to the data outside the sftp area?
[10:04] <summonner> Ublx, sftp stands for... what is your understanding?
[10:04] <Ublx> 2. gnormalize does not work for me ... all track files are broken or contain just the first seconds. is there a one liner for command line to get cd tracks to mp3 ... without any special naming?
[10:04] <Ublx> summonner: safe and secure? :) but what about the rest outside the sftp folder structure?
[10:05] <summonner> Ublx, i'd recommend a short googling
[10:05] <summonner> because, if you're going to open your system up, you should understand the tools and their capabilities
[10:06] <Ublx> i did. for both. many times. but i didn't find a good answer.
[10:09] <summonner> in that case, probably a book? you're touching on a complex topic that is difficult to convey on an ubuntu problem-fix channel
[10:11] <Ublx> ok, thought about a helpful start by knowing little bit about security. asking isn't a mistake - i thought.
[10:16] <summonner> Ublx, stick around in the channel then, perhaps someone will pick up the question
[10:21] <Ublx> yup. of course.
[10:21] <summonner> JackMayol, did you get a solution?
[10:21] <JackMayol> unfortunately not :-/
[10:22] <JackMayol> if at least the exact same command wouldn't have worked for years before, I would think bah it's maybe just me...
[10:22] <summonner> just reading the scrollback
[10:23] <summonner> forgive my questions if you've already answered, so you're in the folder with the profile files, yes?
[10:25] <summonner> and you run   grep username=\"DFGHJRTYU\" *.profile    does that give you anything
[10:27] <summonner> also for your other commands, just as a suggestion, escape the * or other characters with \  try not to use quotes, it makes it harder to figure out where the string closure can be (unless you're using an editor like nano which will colorize the strings automatically)
[10:28] <chriss_toni> does anyone know if there will be a update from Ubuntu Touch to 20.04 this year?
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> chriss_toni: ask in #ubports please
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> chriss_toni: ubuntu-touch is not community driven and renamed to ubports
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> now
[10:30] <chriss_toni> yes i doe. but i ask many questians at this channel. no problem. thx.
[10:31] <chriss_toni> :)
[10:35] <JackMayol> summonner, grep username=\"DFGHJRTYU\" *.profile works
[10:36] <JackMayol> grep 'username="DFGHJRTYU"' *.profile as well, though
[10:38] <summonner> does:    find . -type f -name \*.profile" | parallel -k -j150% -n 1000 -m grep -H -F \"DFGHJRTYU\" {}     work?
[10:38] <summonner> correction:    find . -type f -name \*.profile | parallel -k -j150% -n 1000 -m grep -H -F \"DFGHJRTYU\" {}
[10:40] <JackMayol> summonner, yes
[10:44] <summonner> and JackMayol your original find/grep was looking for the sid string, yes?
[10:44] <JackMayol> summonner, yes
[10:46] <summonner> JackMayol, and if you run    grep  sid=\"1111\" *.profile     in that folder? it works?
[10:51] <JackMayol> summonner, in the orginal folder (284k files, half of them *.profile files) I get this:  -bash: /bin/grep: Argument list too long
[10:51] <JackMayol> while in the 5k files test folder, it works
[10:54] <summonner> JackMayol, what about if you bash -x before the parallel, do you get   /usr/bin/parallel: line 22: use: command not found
[10:58] <JackMayol> summonner, yes
[10:59] <summonner> JackMayol, also, try this: save the output from the find into a text file. typically find *.profile > test.txt     then use parallel but instead of pipe and {}  replace that with    .... <test.txt   and see if that works
[10:59] <summonner> like parallel -k -j150% -n 1000 -m grep -H -F sid=\"1111\" <list.txt
[10:59] <summonner> (whatever you name the file)
[11:05] <summonner> JackMayol, AH
[11:05] <JackMayol> doesn't output anything in the file
[11:06] <summonner> JackMayol, found the cause. so, looking at your original command:  find . -type f -name "*.profile" | parallel -k -j150% -n 1000 -m grep -H -F sid=\"1111\" {}
[11:06] <summonner> introduce an echo into the parallel
[11:07] <summonner> so you see what is happening with the perl script. ie.    instead of   grep -H -F   do    echo grep -H -F    etc
[11:09] <summonner> and the output, what you see, is what parallel is running - which is clearly not correct - none of the quotes are being escaped correctly, they're being lost. so you need to keep escaping until you see the correct command - then you can remove the echo
[11:10] <summonner> does that make sense? It now works on my machine
[11:11] <summonner> and if this command used to run until today, then you now have a file name, or contents inside the file, which are causing the escaping to fail. probably there's a quote in there somewhere, that isn't being closed.
[11:13] <summonner> if you want to find the culprit, you're going to have to find all recent files, and check them, such as writing some sort of debug script to check each file and compare count, and when you find difference, a missing result, then you can narrow the problem file down and escalate that to whomever writes the files - there's obviously a bug in the code which produces these files
[11:13] <summonner> that was fun
[11:52] <famubu> Hi. I typed a non existant command in my terminal with bash as shell and quickly did Ctrl-C after pressing enter. Then I'm getting some python errors saying frozen_importlib KeyboardInterrupt. Does this mean than python is used somewhere in bash?
[11:53] <famubu> Or is this python error coming from somewhere else?
[11:57] <JackMayol> summonner, thanks for your help, much appreciated! Some files might indeed be truncated. At least now using /" instead of " helps
[12:02]  * nicoz augura buon pranzo a tutti..
[12:13] <ogra> famubu, the command-not-found tool (that makes suggestions about installing a package that contains said command) is packaged in python ... the specific shell error is routed to it
[12:14] <ogra> if you managed to create a traceback your timing must have been really lucky to hit it at the right moment or your computer is really slow 🙂
[12:17] <jelly> is there a way to set status "away" and "active" on all the chat clients at once?  Right now I use: hexchat, skype, teams, I'll probably install slack, maybe discord
[12:18] <jelly> on bionic
[12:19] <summonner> JackMayol, yw
[12:29] <eedgit> Hey, I'm trying to run Robot OS using VirtualBox/Vagrant. Issue is I'm on a ARM M1 mac. I see on the ROS site that it's compatible with 18.04 Bionic ARM, but I'm only finding images for Ubuntu Server or raspberry Pi. Would one of these work or am I SOL?
[12:53] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:56] <jess> meowning
[13:11] <famubu> ogra: Oh.. Didn't know that. Thanks!
[13:12] <famubu> ogra: No my computer is a bit slow.. :-D
[13:12] <famubu> I can easily get that traceback.
[13:14] <famubu> How is bash configured to use command-not-found? Is it some configuration in the .bashrc or .profile files? Couldn't find it there on quick grep.
[13:46] <pavlos> famubu: there is a package installed, command-not-found, see "dpkg -l | grep command-not-found"
[13:49] <pavlos> famubu: sudo updatedb ; locate command-not-found
[13:54] <lupulo> famubu, you should have echo $PATH, where the command is.
[13:55] <lupulo> you could have two command-not-found, but only was executed the first in PATH
[13:56] <ogra> famubu, /etc/bash.bashrc
[14:02] <loco41211> Hello, I've got a networking scenario with multiple IPs on one interface and I want to make all OUTGOING traffic from either a specific process or a system user's processes (whichever is easier) to use a specific source IP. Summarised here, would appreciate if any one with ideas could take a look: https://serverfault.com/questions/1056688/forcing-outgoing-traffic-via-specific-ip-by-process-or-user
[14:02] <loco41211> found one potential per-user solution via iptables already, though there's a dns problem I'm investigating
[14:18] <leftyfb> loco41211: maybe stick the user/services in an lxd container. Binding a bridge for that container should be pretty easy
[14:19] <loco41211> leftyfb, thanks for taking a look - seems similar to a docker style container, if I understood correctly?
[14:20] <leftyfb> loco41211: yep. docker would also work
[14:20] <loco41211> would mean dockerising the process(es) though... would prefer not to add that complexity layer
[14:21] <loco41211> the iptables trick seems similar, just need to find why it breaks dns resolution
[15:05] <hydrian> Ello all
[15:05] <hydrian> Does anybody know how to add addition mount points to snaps?
[16:05] <famubu> ogra: Found it in /etc/bash.bashrc
[16:06] <famubu> Had lost connection but found messages thanks to the log. :-)
[16:06] <ogra> 🙂
[17:10] <Rockwood> hi
[17:10] <Rockwood> i am facing
[17:10] <Rockwood> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NYYbKRZknm/
[17:11] <juli> hi, i have a problem with a ubuntu-windows dualboot. I have upgraded the ubuntu with apt get upgrade. While that process i had to set an (UEFI?) password for secure boot. Now after reboot i had to validate that password, but when starting windows now, it can't unlock the bitlocker volume anymore
[17:11] <juli> how can that be?
[17:13] <juli> Rockwood: from where did you get this error log?
[17:13] <Rockwood> at time build react
[17:14] <Rockwood>  sudo npm run-script build  on this command
[17:16] <Mibix> is there a way to set my VM to autostart through the Oracle VM Virtualbox Manager GUI?
[17:18] <leftyfb> juli: that is a #windows question
[17:18] <juli> leftyfb: why? It happened because i upgraded ubuntu...
[17:18] <leftyfb> Mibix: maybe read the Oracle VM Virtualbox Manager GUI documentation?
[17:19] <juli> Rockwood: what happens if you try to set the symlink manually?
[17:19] <leftyfb> juli: that might be true, but there's nothing to do in ubuntu to fix it on the Windows side
[17:20] <Rockwood> juli, its auto setup
[17:20] <juli> leftyfb: True, i just want to understand because of what that could happen, so that i know whether i can solve this somehow
[17:20] <juli> Rockwood: sure, but it fails, because you don't have permissions to set that symlink '../node-sass/bin/node-sass\' -> \'/var/www/criminalimpulse/theme/node_modules/.bin/node-sass\''
[17:20] <Mibix> i dont see it in there
[17:21] <leftyfb> juli: to be honest, I don't know because I disable EFI and secure boot whenever possible. But at the moment, your issue is getting Windows to work. This is not the correct place to get help with that
[17:22] <Rockwood> juli, how to set permissions then ?
[17:22] <leftyfb> Mibix: https://kifarunix.com/autostart-virtualbox-vms-on-system-boot-on-linux/
[17:22] <Mibix> of course you cant do it in gui
[17:23] <Mibix> facking linux
[17:23] <leftyfb> Mibix: that is an Oracle issue, not linux. "linux" did not create the application
[17:25] <juli> Rockwood: you have first to figure out, why you don't have the permissions there, especially when using sudo (with sudo you should normally have all permissions)
[17:26] <Rockwood> juli, i am confuse
[17:27] <Rockwood> bcz VM not permanent permissions if once i give it
[17:27] <juli> Rockwood: ?
[17:27] <Rockwood> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/j2jhCZsjYr/
[17:28] <Rockwood> always user change on restart
[17:28] <Rockwood> back to root
[17:28] <Rockwood> instead of rockwood
[17:28] <Rockwood> my current user is rockwood
[17:29] <juli> Rockwood: can you show the output of ls -la ../node-sass/bin/node-sass?
[17:29] <juli> and are you sure u used sudo?
[17:30] <leftyfb> Rockwood: what version of ubuntu is this?
[17:30] <Rockwood> rockwood@cyberia:/var/www/criminalimpulse/theme$ sudo ls -la ../node-sass/bin/node-sass
[17:30] <Rockwood> ls: cannot access '../node-sass/bin/node-sass': No such file or directory
[17:30] <Rockwood> ubuntu 20
[17:31] <leftyfb> Rockwood: 20.04 or 20.10?
[17:31] <leftyfb> Rockwood: "20" is not a valid version of ubuntu
[17:31] <Rockwood> how to chk
[17:31] <Rockwood> ?
[17:32] <leftyfb> Rockwood: lsb_release -d
[17:33] <Rockwood> No LSB modules are available.
[17:33] <leftyfb> try with sudo
[17:34] <Rockwood> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5YXPpjfbXq/
[17:34] <juli> its 20.04.2 LTS
[17:34] <leftyfb> Rockwood: you are pretty outdated
[17:34] <Rockwood> yeah
[17:34] <Rockwood> why?
[17:34] <Rockwood> i just download this
[17:34] <Rockwood> very recently
[17:35] <Rockwood> just installed
[17:35] <leftyfb> oh wait, nevermind. My bad, sorry
[17:35] <juli> leftyfb: its LTS so it should be still supported?
[17:36] <leftyfb> sorry, got confused with my machine running 18.04 which is on 18.04.5
[17:36] <juli> :)
[17:37] <Rockwood> sudo do-release-upgrade -d -f DistUpgradeViewGtk3 should i do that?
[17:38] <juli> i'am not very familiar with node/npm and so on, but from what i can read there is just a permission error, and you don't need to upgrade your whole system
[17:38] <leftyfb> Rockwood: no, you do not need to do that
[17:38] <Rockwood> ok
[17:38] <Rockwood> then
[17:38] <leftyfb> Rockwood: I would look for support from whoever wrote the application you are trying to install
[17:39] <Rockwood> i am creating project
[17:39] <Rockwood> in react
[17:39] <Rockwood> my old OS was dead
[17:39] <Rockwood> so i just installed new version
[17:39] <Rockwood> 19
[17:39] <Rockwood> was my old version of ubuntu
[17:39] <juli> Rockwood: can you show the log with the command you issued and the path in which you are in?
[17:39] <leftyfb> !yy.mm | Rockwood
[17:40] <leftyfb> Rockwood: maybe ask in #react for support writing your own projects? Maybe there's good practices for locations/permissions you are missuing
[17:41] <Rockwood> ok
[17:42] <Rockwood> suppose if i wanna do rockwood user and all kind of permission on parent folder my user rockwood
[17:42] <Mibix> lol that guide doesnt work leftyfb
[17:42] <Mibix> https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=90767
[17:42] <Mibix> same think happened to me grrr
[17:42] <Rockwood> what kind of command helps?
[17:52] <AndroUser10> Hello anytime know how to set up 3proxy?
[17:54] <oerheks> AndroUser10, please don't crosspost
[17:58] <leftyfb> AndroUser10: also, we can only support official Ubuntu packages here. 3proxy is not one of them
[17:58] <AndroUser10> oerheks: trying to setup 3proxy on ubuntu
[17:58] <AndroUser10> already setup 3proxy but not working satisfactorily
[18:00] <leftyfb> AndroUser10: you are receiving help in ##linux. Good luck
[18:00] <AndroUser10> what?! 3proxy not official package?! please confirm. Its listed on "apt list"
[18:06] <AndroUser10> ok got it 3proxy not in "apt list", so no support here for the same? where else can the query be posted? pls guide
[18:09] <leftyfb> !info 3proxy
[18:10] <leftyfb> AndroUser10: you are being helped in ##linux. Please pay attention there
[18:11] <AndroUser10> Thank you
[18:13] <aleksei-hash> Hello everybody! I'm in trouble. While starting my PC I'm stuck in the grub menu, I mean I can't naviguate and choose an option. There's also no any timer. Please help!!!
[18:16] <aleksei-hash> PS: i'm running ubuntu 20.04 on a partition and Win10 on an other
[18:25] <GrouchyHedgehog> I feel stupid for asking this question, but in Unity desktop, is there a way to see the full application name when the app launcher comes up?
[18:27] <GrouchyHedgehog> I have a 4K screen and the app finder is trying to save screen space by truncating the application names
[18:30] <raffaele> the fann too rumorous
[18:30] <raffaele> how can i silence it?
[18:30] <GrouchyHedgehog> clip the wires
[19:02] <aleksei-hash> Hello everybody! Do you know how I could reinstall GRUB
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> !recovergrub | aleksei-hash
[19:08] <isapgswell> vesafb.invalid=1 enables nomodeset with 1915 driver
[19:08] <isapgswell> grub
[19:08] <isapgswell> i915
[19:14] <quaklo> Hey. I suffered weird behaviour, like FireFox altering the url to redirect for the ubuntu firefox website. I figured out that this setting was within FireFox and set it off. Anyway: I remembered than openSUSE had some option in the setting what kind of header/userAgent to identify. Now I stuck in the consideration where in the OSI model this is
[19:14] <quaklo> something a OS can alter, and if such altering could be done systemwide or for some specific network. Any inspiration what to look up for?
[19:19] <Ravage> The user agent is layer 7
[19:21] <quaklo> I know that the Application can determ such, but like mentioned, in openSUSE you could set some value in the settings that I think was the user agent. So I was wondering what it could be I remember and figured I ask here before installing some openSuse in a VM and look it up again.
[19:23] <quaklo> Maybe I should ask in opensuse instead ^^ I was just one step further already and thinking of checking what set in ubuntu at this place
[19:23] <quaklo> #opensuse
[19:29] <leftyfb> quaklo: I assume the application (firefox) would be using tools like lsb_release or uname or /etc/issue to determine OS. I doubt you want to change those just so your browser gives off a different OS.
[19:31] <quaklo> leftyfb you are exactly seeing what I try to do. Just that I do not care about FireFox, because I can alter that program within itself. But I consider stuff like wget. I just saw that wget has some httpconfig, but what about other system connections that use the http protocol. I think I want to mess with it ...
[19:32] <leftyfb> quaklo: it might not be worth the headache
[19:32] <leftyfb> quaklo: I would do it per application (wget, curl, php, firefox). They should all have methods to set the useragent
[19:35] <oerheks> tons of firefox addons, User-Agent Switcher
[19:35] <quaklo> its about http on the system level.
[19:36] <leftyfb> quaklo: there is no http on a system level. http is a service provided by an application
[19:36] <oerheks> show us the opensuse solution? never heard of http on system level too
[19:37] <quaklo> its about altering it on a "system" level. There are programs you can not alter, like Zoom, Skype, Teamviewer or whatever.
[19:37] <oerheks> all configs that are not in a .conf file, are reachable with dconf-editor
[19:38] <oerheks> !info dconf-editor
[19:38] <oerheks> but for mozilla i expect some about:config
[19:39] <quaklo> I was more into hacking the network adapter and tell him to overwrite clear http headers. seems like I found my workaround: proxy, collect it in squid, filter request_header_replace header_name
[19:40] <oerheks> that is not the goal of this channel
[19:40] <leftyfb> quaklo: I don't think you can accomplish what you're looking for. Other than changing what your OS actually is. Or guessing at which mechanisms an application might use to determine it's OS. As for changing what that application sets as a client, I don't think that's happening at all. Certainly not a "system level" thing
[19:42] <leftyfb> quaklo: ah right, a proxy would work. You'll have to configure each application to utilize the proxy though.
[19:42] <quaklo> yeah, and most applications offer to set some proxy, but not to alter the http header :P
[19:45] <quaklo> oerheks what do you think about the idea of determing what http header is send by os process http requests? There is no need for any true http header to enable features, but there may be a interest of a user changing it for security concern. Wouldnt it be great if thats a variable that could be altered at a centralized place, so users have to
[19:45] <quaklo> freedom to chose about it?
[19:47] <leftyfb> quaklo: that's what the proxy is for
[19:47] <quaklo> leftyfb wouldnt work for https.
[19:48] <quaklo> its a hacking solution rather than a clean setting solution!
[19:48] <leftyfb> quaklo: other than that, all http traffic on Ubuntu would need to be routed through an installed proxy by default to take advantage of said feature. I can tell you there are an order of magnitude of people who do not want that over those who want what you are looking for
[19:49] <leftyfb> quaklo: good luck in your goal
[19:50] <quaklo> ? im talking about changing the source code and implementing of some variable instead of a hard coded value. This should be more than likely to be in the interest of a modern and modular os :P
[19:50] <leftyfb> quaklo: feel free to discuss further in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:51] <quaklo> im talking to you...
[19:52] <Mr_Queue> Anyone know how to display a notification to a remote users GUI? 20.10
[19:52] <oerheks> Mr_Queue, message of the day, comes in mind
[19:53] <leftyfb> Mr_Queue: use notify-send via ssh
[19:54] <oerheks> also good, leftyfb , e.g. ssh user@host 'DISPLAY=:0 notify-send "TEST MESSAGE."
[20:15] <Mr_Queue> notify-send isn't working..
[20:15] <Mr_Queue> no errors.
[20:36] <arch-nemesis> ok, for real though, how do you upgrade packages non-interactively? I've got environment variables, apt flags, DPKG:: options. My god, the incantation is incomprehensible, and it would seem still doesn't cover all cases. Good grief. What is the right way to do this?
[20:37] <sarnold> arch-nemesis: investigate how unattended-upgrades does it
[20:38] <gravitos> alright, i have two xubuntu installations on separate devices, one on i686 laptop and other on arm64 mobile device.
[20:38] <gravitos> now i am trying to launch app from mobile device using the laptop's x server
[20:39] <gravitos> and i get this
[20:39] <gravitos> Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused
[20:39] <gravitos> (xfce4-terminal:17910): Gtk-WARNING **: 23:19:29.281: cannot open display: <IP_ADDRESS>:0
[20:39] <gravitos> i did `xhost +mobile_device_hostname` on laptop, i even did `xhost +`
[20:39] <sarnold> gravitos: did you enable tcp listening?
[20:39] <gravitos> same results
[20:40] <gravitos> sarnold: how do i?
[20:40] <sarnold> that was disabled by default a decade back..
[20:40] <sarnold> gravitos: grep for tcp in /etc/X11 -- I use xdm on my system, and it looks like it's configured in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers on my machine
[20:42] <sarnold> gravitos: whatever display manager you're using may or may not have it configured there, but conventions are powerful :)
[20:43] <gravitos> `cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager` gives me `/usr/sbin/lightdm`
[20:43] <gravitos> so i use lightdm, i guess
[20:44] <arch-nemesis> sarnold: Thanks, that'll help.
[20:46] <gravitos> okay, i found a file, `/etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc`, it has only two lines in it, one is stating that this script runs in /bin/sh, and other is `exec /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp "$@"`
[20:46] <gravitos> this could be... something
[20:48] <sarnold> gravitos: that's used when you start your xserver by running 'xinit' by hand
[20:49] <sarnold> that used to be popular 25 years ago but most people use graphical display managers these days
[20:52] <gravitos> nothing interesting in /etc/lightdm, hm
[20:52] <sarnold> check the manpage?
[20:57] <gravitos> found some info about passing a line into lightdm.conf, BUT for some reason there are no lightdm.conf in /etc/lightdm, only an empty folder named lightdm.conf.d
[20:57] <sarnold> aha, then you can probably create a new file in that directory with the one line you want
[20:58] <gravitos> and reboot?
[20:59]  * gravitos rebooting, brb
[21:04] <gravitos> `ps ax | grep X` now shows that X are -listening to tcp
[21:04] <gravitos> and now running any app on mobile device while using lap X server gives me this `No protocol specified` in addition to that two lines before
[21:05] <gravitos> and no app actually appears
[21:10] <sarnold> gravitos: yay, that's progress anyway :) 'no protocol specified' on its own doesn't ring any bells though :(
[21:11] <gravitos> this is literally all i get https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/fYkMz6HV/std
[21:13] <gravitos> oh
[21:13] <gravitos> xhost wipes settings on reboot
[21:13] <gravitos> that's what the problem was
[21:13] <gravitos> after another `xhost +mobile_device_hostname` everything works
[21:13] <gravitos> thanks
[21:16] <sarnold> gravitos: woot
[21:16] <sarnold> gravitos: do be careful with such wide-open settings, the XAUTH framework is designed to be safer than letting anyone and everyone connect to your X server
[21:18] <gravitos> if i dont `xhost +` in autorun, everything will be safe enough
[21:57] <admin0> i did a apt-get upgrade to ubuntu, rebooted and now i cannot start my vm .. error is: error: Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.machine1': timed out (service_start_timeout=25000ms)
[21:57] <admin0> has anyone seen this before and knows a fix
[21:57] <admin0> os is ubuntu-focal
[22:27] <robertparkerx> I followed this guide https://www.tecmint.com/enable-http2-in-apache-on-ubuntu/ but it still return http 1.1
[22:28] <pavlos> admin0: systemctl status libvirtd ... maybe another reboot, this error has to do with dbus
[22:29] <admin0> pavlos, https://pastebin.com/raw/r8mBqScT
[22:29] <admin0> i will do another reboot and check
[22:31] <oerheks> robertparkerx, same steps as https://dev.to/ayekpleclemence/enabling-http-2-in-apache-on-ubuntu-4pe8
[22:31] <oerheks> why does it not work?
[22:31] <sarnold> robertparkerx: pastebin the whole terminal log?
[22:32] <oerheks> and how do you test?
[22:33] <robertparkerx> curl -I --http2 -s https://www.exactprecisions.com/ | grep HTTP
[22:34] <robertparkerx> apachectl -M says module is enabled
[22:34] <robertparkerx> i have added line to virtualhost and restart apache2
[22:34] <robertparkerx> it doesn't change
[22:36] <admin0> pavlos, https://pastebin.com/raw/zKcPSGgt
[22:37] <admin0> libvirtd is up .. but the error does not go away
[22:38] <pavlos> admin0: I think there is a conflict btween qemu 64 bit and libraries. I guess the upgrade hosed something
[22:39] <Celphi> hi - i seem to install the wrong guest services on my virtual machie and now i get a black screen after typing in password
[22:39] <Celphi> anything i can do?
[22:40] <Celphi> i really dont want to reinstall everything
[22:40] <lord4163> Celphi: can you get to a tty?
[22:40] <Celphi> not unless theres some trick to not loading gui in virtualbox
[22:42] <oerheks> like normal recovery mode? hold shift on boot
[22:42] <oerheks> !recovery
[22:43] <Celphi> ok shift worked
[22:43] <Celphi> how do i remove my last package?
[22:44] <oerheks> look into dpkg log?
[22:44] <Celphi> im new to ubuntu
[22:44] <Celphi> wheres that
[22:44] <Celphi> im from centos
[22:44] <leftyfb> Celphi: how did you install it?
[22:44] <leftyfb> the package
[22:44] <oerheks> what did you install? how would we know?
[22:44] <Celphi> iso & virtual machine
[22:44] <leftyfb> ugh
[22:45] <Celphi> i installed virtualbox-guest-x11 and then it stopped working
[22:45] <oerheks> did you setup virtual box right? sufficient video mem and such
[22:45] <leftyfb> oh, so remove that package
[22:45] <Celphi> ya whats command though
[22:45] <leftyfb> Celphi: future reference, the package is called virtualbox-guest-dkms
[22:45] <Celphi> ty
[22:45] <leftyfb> Celphi: sudo apt remove virtualbox-guest-x11
[22:46] <leftyfb> Celphi: you are probably better off reinstalling at this point though. And take advantage of snapshots
[22:46] <Celphi> ya that was issue
[22:46] <Celphi> it's good to go!
[22:46] <Celphi> ty
[22:46] <oerheks> have fun!
[22:51] <Celphi> one last thing-- what's the replacement command for VBoxClient --clipboard
[22:52] <leftyfb> Celphi: you'll have to lookup VB documentation and/or google. It's not an official Ubuntu package
[22:53] <oerheks> 'ubuntu KVM --clipboard' would be interesting
[23:02] <Celphi> so many instructions online and theyre all wrong :(


[01:23] <earthling__> How do I disable evolution processes? and have them disabled everytime I bootup?  I only see one in Startup Applications
[01:28] <truepurple> Is there a way to stop a installation in progress through the software manager?
[04:53] <iggy19> is there a way to increase the space allocated to /home?
[04:57] <seidos> iggy19: i believe yes, but it may not be possible with existing tools.  have you investigated gparted?
[04:57] <iggy19> yeah, I'm familiar with gparted.
[04:58] <seidos> iggy19: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1024692.html
[04:58] <iggy19> thing is, I'm not sure how I have this setup.  / is 20GB and has ~15G free, and /home is in the same partition, but is limited to 2G
[04:58] <iggy19> what would be limiting the size of /home but the partition size?
[04:59] <seidos> iggy19: the mount point of /home
[04:59] <iggy19> seidos: explain?
[05:00] <seidos> iggy19: one partition, and / and /home are mounted in it
[05:01] <iggy19> yes, that appears to be what I have.  But why is less than the full partition size availible to /home?
[05:01] <iggy19> and more to the point, how do I adjust that allocation
[05:02] <iggy19> since they are on the same parition it's not going to be gparted thing (even if I trusted gparted to adjust parition sizes)
[05:02] <seidos> ah, that is strange...
[05:02] <seidos> i don't know, never had that problem
[05:03] <iggy19> hmmmm.....
[05:03] <seidos> so the partition does have 15G free, partitioned, and formatted?
[05:03] <iggy19> Yes, LVM-->dm-crypt
[05:03] <iggy19> crypted home on top of that
[05:04] <iggy19> df reports: /dev/mapper/Evolution-sysroot 19295524   4937384  13377968  27% /
[05:05] <iggy19> and: /dev/mapper/Evolution-home 1967440   1867536         0 100% /home
[05:05] <seidos> if you're encrypting folders, i probably can't help you.  maybe you can help me :)
[05:06] <iggy19> some things I'm pretty solid in, others not so much.  I've been using *nix on-and-off since the mid 90's, but there's a bunch I don't know.
[05:07] <iggy19> If you have an encryption question, I can maybe acutally help
[05:07] <iggy19> afk brb
[05:11] <iggy19> back
[05:15] <iggy19> seidos: gotta reboot back in a flash
[05:15] <seidos> i just started using it in 2009
[05:16] <iggy19> seidos: it=encryption?
[05:16] <seidos> iggy19: no, linux.  well, in any seriousness anyway
[05:16] <iggy19> i'll hold off on the reboot
[05:16] <seidos> oh, don't let me stop you, i'm going to be around
[05:17] <iggy19> yeah, I'm not that serious.    Don't know how to fix that to allow me to restart FF w/o a reboot
[05:19] <iggy19> cheap old laptop won't take too much juice
[05:20] <seidos> i have a "cheap old desktop"
[05:20] <seidos> so i would only leave it running when inspired to work/play on it
[05:21] <seidos> iggy19: kill -9 <pid> has always killed a process, as long as i use sudo
[05:21] <iggy19> doh!
[05:21] <seidos> >_>
[05:26] <iggy19> Actually, didn't work even w/ the proper sudo
[05:27] <seidos> hmmm
[05:27] <seidos> this may be a conversation best left for #ubuntu-beginners-team
[05:28] <iggy19> asking in /freenode/#ubuntu w/o any luck so far
[05:28] <seidos> the gparted stuff or kill -9 ?
[05:28] <iggy19> kill -9
[05:29] <iggy19> was going to browse some more on the /home stuff before I can even coherently parse a non-noob question about my home directory issues
[05:30] <seidos> i wouldn't even know how to define "beginner" let alone "noob"
[05:31] <iggy19> If I can't formulate the question clearly, I figure it belongs in -beginners
[05:31] <iggy19> lol
[05:31] <mysteriousdarren> seidos: I can do that...haha
[05:31] <mysteriousdarren> iggy19: what is your question?
[05:31] <iggy19> mysteriousdarren - many of them today - finally sat down to try to solve some things I've been ignoring.
[05:32] <mysteriousdarren> iggy19: well if I can help I will or point you in the right direction.
[05:32] <iggy19> At the very present moment two: 1) sudo kill -9 <pid> does not appear to kill the firefox-bin process
[05:33] <iggy19> and 2) how do I resize my /home on a LVM-->dmcrypt partition?
[05:33] <iggy19> mysteriousdarren: thank you!
[05:34] <mysteriousdarren> iggy19: well lets start with the first one......LVM virtualized you mean?
[05:34] <mysteriousdarren> iggy19: I would ask the other question in #ubuntu-mozillateam
[05:35] <mysteriousdarren> iggy19: Do you have to kill it via commandline?
[05:37] <iggy19> about the browser: it stalled/crashed, I chose right-click close, then chose force-quit from the dialog box.  Restsarting FF tells me it is still running and I need to quit the previous instance before restarting.  ps confirms it is running.  Kill fails.
[05:38] <mysteriousdarren> iggy19: you don't have a system monitor or task manager? I get tired of remembering every process and just install one of those to kill things
[05:39] <iggy19> Hmmm... yes
[05:40] <iggy19> system monitor lists the ff process as "Uninterruptible"
[05:40] <seidos> mysteriousdarren: ps will do it, it lists processes in cli
[05:40] <seidos> iggy19: what version of ff?
[05:41] <mysteriousdarren> iggy19: did you try it anyway?
[05:41] <mysteriousdarren> seidos: ps?
[05:42] <seidos> mysteriousdarren: well, ps aux does
[05:43] <mysteriousdarren> iggy: oh you mean ps -C PROCESS?
[05:44] <mysteriousdarren> sorry that was meant for seidos
[05:46] <iggy19> seido: not sure, one or two before the current one
[05:47] <mysteriousdarren> iggy19: did that work? there are many more users in #ubuntu too, alot of them have at least a couple years on me
[05:47] <iggy19> mysteriousdarren: I'm geting advice on #ubuntu currently
[05:47] <iggy19> trying to learn something before I solve this
[05:47] <mysteriousdarren> iggy19: ok good.
[06:23] <iggy19> mysteriousdarren: figured it's probably due to failed disk write, but no idea how to actually kill the process w/o a reboot.  System going down now.  BRB.
[10:13] <hydrogrow> hola amigo
[10:13] <hydrogrow> s
[10:14] <Awesomaes> vozdra komsijo
[10:14] <hydrogrow> en english
[10:15] <hydrogrow> enough of that hows everyone doing this morning
[14:14] <bobweaver> hello there I am having some massive troubles getting wine installed I have tried from ubuntu software center ,synaptic,apt-get install , could some one please help me. after install there is no .wine folder under ~
[14:18] <bobweaver> nm guys and girls I got some one helped on the ubuntu channel
[14:18] <bobweaver> I needed to configure it :>) lol
[15:25] <stlsaint> bgs100: yo man. really really long time no speak between us
[15:30] <tdn_> I have just installed Ubuntu 11.10 on a completely new Lenovo workstation with preinstalled Windows 7. I chose to install Ubuntu side-by-side with Windows. However, when restarting after install, it just boots Windows. Not Ubuntu. I figure this has something to do with EFI or something. How do I fix this?
[15:31] <stlsaint> tdn_: you sure that ubuntu is installed to the system?
[15:33] <stlsaint> tdn_: regarldess see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2
[15:35] <hobgoblin> tdn_: once you have the livecd/usb booted - open a terminal and run    sudo fdisk -l
[15:35] <hobgoblin> should be linux partitions showing as well as win ones
[15:35] <tdn_> stlsaint, well, it went all the way thrrough the installer and copied lots of files to hdd. It said that it was installed ...
[15:35] <stlsaint> see link
[15:35] <tdn_> hobgoblin, fdisk and gparted shows linux partitikons
[15:35] <tdn_> stlsaint, I am there.
[15:35] <hobgoblin> that's good then
[15:36] <stlsaint> tdn_: than you just need to reinstall grub2 than
[15:37] <hobgoblin> unless it is this uefi stuff
[15:37] <tdn_> I am pretty sure this is efi/uefi.
[15:38] <tdn_> I tried dmesg | grep EFI and it gives me lots of lines.
[15:38] <hobgoblin> dmesg from the livecd is that
[15:38] <tdn_> hobgoblin, yes, dmesg is from livecd. Cannot boot the installed Ubuntu.
[15:39] <hobgoblin> you looked on the forum at all
[15:39] <tdn_> hobgoblin, yes, lots. I see no clear solution.
[15:39] <tdn_> stlsaint, the URL you posted tells me to run boot-repair program. I did, but it says that efi or uefi detected.
[15:40] <stlsaint> i thought that was on windows 8 only? that what you running?
[15:40] <tdn_> stlsaint, win 7
[15:41] <stlsaint> go into bios and turn it off
[15:41] <tdn_> stlsaint, I went to bios setup. Could not find anything on EFI.
[15:42] <stlsaint> it has to be able to be turned off. Google your make/model and "turn off EFI"
[15:42] <hobgoblin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11549005&postcount=7
[15:42] <hobgoblin> tdn_: did you see this one ^^
[15:43] <hobgoblin> but as stlsaint says you should be able to turn it off
[15:43] <tdn_> I just tried googling lenovo thinkcentre "turn off efi", it gives nothing.
[15:46] <stlsaint> is efi the proper term for it?
[15:46] <hobgoblin> tdn_: do you not have the manual for it ?
[15:50] <stlsaint> very little on research of it but all have the option to turn off. Maybe dig abit more around in bios or check your POST key options
[15:51] <tdn_> hobgoblin, yes
[15:51] <hobgoblin> I assume you read it then :)
[15:52] <hobgoblin> it's not something I have an experience with I'm afraid - likely to be years till I do - I run old machines
[15:52] <hobgoblin> might be worth posting on the forum
[16:05] <tdn_> hobgoblin, cannot see anything about this in manual. What to look for?
[16:07] <hobgoblin> well I'd be looking for uefi or efi - or security or somesuch - probably I'd go into the bios or whatever and look for things
[16:08] <hobgoblin> the other thing you might have is an option when you boot to choose
[16:08] <hobgoblin> no idea really without seeing the manual or having a number to search for
[16:14] <tdn_> hobgoblin, security?
[16:16] <tdn_> There is almost no usable info in the manual.
[16:16] <tdn_> It is about 25 pages but in 20 languages or so.
[16:16] <tdn_> It is just safety and warranty information.
[16:21] <hobgoblin> mmm ok - try this then - are you still in the livecd
[16:25] <hobgoblin> tdn_: ^^ if you are open a terminal - run this command and then paste the whole lot to paste.ubuntu.com and give us the url once you have put a name and entered
[16:25] <hobgoblin> sudo dmidecode
[16:27] <Snicksie> hm, maybe pastebinit will be easier then hobgoblin ? :)
[16:27] <Snicksie> sudo dmidecode | pastebinit (if the pastebinit command is installed)
[16:27] <hobgoblin> if it's installed Snicksie ;)
[16:27] <Snicksie> yeah, that was on the end of my sentence :D
[16:27] <hobgoblin> :)
[16:27] <hobgoblin> I Was typing and sending
[16:28] <stlsaint> Snicksie: this is not installed by default
[16:28] <stlsaint> Snicksie: on live cd that is
[16:28] <stlsaint> Snicksie: sorry not wanting to cause confusion so i will rephrase: pastebinit is not default on live cd
[16:29] <hobgoblin> yay for xubuntu then :D
[16:29] <stlsaint> wait what?? lol!? what did xubuntu do??
[16:29] <hobgoblin> have pastebinit installed :)
[16:29] <stlsaint> hobgoblin: oh haha
[16:30] <Snicksie> I know stlsaint :)
[16:30] <stlsaint> yea it really is great to have and has very few depends
[16:34] <tdn_> hobgoblin, which command?
[16:34] <tdn_> hobgoblin, oh, dmidecode. One moment.
[16:36] <hobgoblin> :)
[16:42] <tdn_> http://p.adora.dk/P2274.html
[16:42] <tdn_> dmidecode  ^
[16:42] <tdn_> hobgoblin, does that help?
[16:43] <hobgoblin> no idea yet - give me a chance :)
[16:43] <tdn_> hobgoblin, sure :)
[16:45] <hobgoblin> gonna be a while tdn_ - trying to track down the motherboard manual
[16:45] <tdn_> hobgoblin, cool.
[16:47] <hobgoblin> tdn_: what is it - laptop pc ...
[16:47] <tdn_> hobgoblin, nope. Lenovo ThinkCentre Edge
[17:01] <hobgoblin> tdn_: can't find much at all about it - but I think if you reboot it and press F1 you should eventually get into the system setup - have a look in there - write things down if necessary then ask
[17:01] <hobgoblin> sorry I can't be of much more help
[17:05] <hobgoblin> might even be worth phoning lenovo
[17:07] <tdn_> hobgoblin, I have already looked in bios set up.
[17:07] <tdn_> hobgoblin, could not find anything about EFI
[17:07] <hobgoblin> k
[17:07] <hobgoblin> try a thread in the forum perhaps - you could try #ubuntu - you coudl try a call to them in your country
[17:08] <hobgoblin> another thought - pastebin that dmesg first - lets have a look at that
[17:08] <hobgoblin> grasping at straws a bit though
[17:09] <tdn_> hobgoblin, I have tried in #ubuntu, it seems unresponsive :(
[17:09] <hobgoblin> k
[17:09] <tdn_> On this subject at least.
[17:09] <tdn_> Will find dmesg now.
[17:10] <tdn_> http://paste.adora.dk/P2275.txt
[17:10] <tdn_> hobgoblin, dmesg
[17:10] <tdn_> ^
[17:15] <hobgoblin> k - nothing jumping at me there - sorry
[17:15] <tdn_> hobgoblin, :(
[17:16] <hobgoblin> I'd be inclined to trying the forum - plenty of people there with knowledge - if you do then go to here and get that information for the thread - http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[17:16] <hobgoblin> people have got it running ok - might need a bit of fiddling about
[17:17] <hobgoblin> tdn_: good luck - but I have to go afk for a while now
[17:19] <tdn_> http://paste.adora.dk/P2276.html  <- fdisk -l
[17:20] <tdn_> hobgoblin, thanks.
[17:25] <tdn_> http://paste.adora.dk/P2277.html output from bootinfo script
[17:30] <iggy19> hey all
[17:31] <iggy19> i'm not clearly remembering how I set up this system.
[17:32] <iggy19> I have a dm-crypt partition, that hosts / and /home
[17:32] <iggy19> mount lists /dev/mapper/Evolution-sysroot on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro,commit=600) and /dev/mapper/Evolution-home on /home type ext3 (rw,commit=600)
[17:33] <iggy19> can someone explain what I did during setup?
[17:33] <stlsaint> lol huh?
[17:34] <stlsaint> you did not want this setup?
[17:34] <iggy19> No I do, I just need to understand better how I set it up so I can ask my next question, which is about resizing encrypted home
[17:35] <stlsaint> if you used trucrypt i would suggest taking a gander at their site. i personally do not use it
[17:36] <iggy19> I do use TC, but this is not it.  This is dm-crypt
[17:36] <stlsaint> even worse mate, i truly have no idea on that one
[17:36] <iggy19> The whole partition is dm-crypt on LVM
[17:36] <stlsaint> your trying to resize a encryped LVM??
[17:37] <iggy19> No, I'm trying to resize the encrypted user (Evo) home on top of the dm-crypt partition
[17:37] <hobgoblin> tdn_: hi - thanks for that - but I'm not able to help anymore with this issue - just be wasting your time - use that information for any thread you might start on the forum
[17:37] <hobgoblin> you might also try askubuntu.com
[17:37] <stlsaint> iggy19: which is lvm?
[17:38] <iggy19> My question right now is how device mapper works.  That is, what is going on that allows me to have both / and /home on the same physical partition (sda5)
[17:39] <iggy19> stlsaint: sda5 is LVM w/ dm-crypt on top of it, / and /home are mounted on sda5 and /home/Evo is crypted on top of all that
[17:40] <stlsaint> and you want to make evo larger? I would suggest removing the encryption then resize then encrpt
[17:40] <iggy19> Gotta run now.  Excited to look at scrollback when I return.  If nothing, I'll take this to #ubuntu
[17:41] <hobgoblin> tdn_: one more - from what I can see from the bootinfo and askubuntu it would have set it up for uefi if it was there - when you boot do you have an F key option for boot devices?
[17:42] <iggy19> stlsaint: I need to understand how device mapper allows two mount points on one paritition and how it controls the size of each before I can be sure if what you suggest is actually what I want to do?
[17:42] <iggy19> TTFN!
[17:43] <stlsaint> ok
[18:34] <tdn_> hobgoblin, no, I do not beleive I do have an F option. Where would it be? It just boots Windows 7 immidieately.
[18:34] <hobgoblin> it'd be when you boot - if not then I really don't have anything else :(
[18:36] <hobgoblin> should be F12 apparently
[18:39] <hobgoblin> you could try hitting shift when it boots - can always hope
[18:46] <hobgoblin> see if grub is theree - but I'm doubtful
[22:23] <tdn_> iggy19, do you run phys partitions > lvm > lvs > dm-crypt?