[08:27] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[08:27] <Ademan> anyone know if DBus connections can be "secured"?  (somehow ensure that only "trusted" applications access the dbus connection)
[08:27] <scguy318> dumbass1337: [02:26:04] <[chr0n0s]> dumbass1337, gogo windoze
[08:27] <[chr0n0s]> dumbass1337, racism :O
[08:27] <scguy318> !flaming | dumbass1337
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flaming - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <scguy318> dumbass1337: please don't start
[08:27] <dumbass1337> lol i didn't
[08:27] <anvilsmith> Any idea what might be causing my problem?
[08:27] <kimmey2k3> !ati
[08:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:27] <miked595> dumbass1337, you made sure wine is installed?
[08:27] <computer12345> i see
[08:27] <fnord23`> sup?
[08:27] <dumbass1337> miked595: no
[08:27] <dumbass1337> miked595: i want to be able to run it instantly.
[08:27] <computer12345> when i type ps -el it also shows PRI :)
[08:28] <fnord23`> tell me
[08:28] <Ademan> anvilsmith: huh, that sounds a lot like what i've got going on, i have no idea how to fix it though
[08:28] <scguy318> dumbass1337: you are aware that Linux doesn't run Windows apps natively?
[08:28] <inversekinetix> heres a cool link   http://widefox.pbwiki.com/
[08:28] <computer12345> why killall?
[08:28] <computer12345> lol
[08:28] <Ademan> anvilsmith: did you use feisty before?
[08:28] <scguy318> computer12345: so u dont have to type ID
[08:28] <dumbass1337> scguy318: so what you're saying is, just because i use linux i'm prevented from using windows apps?
[08:28] <miked595> dumbass1337, umm..ok? well for it to run install wine, beside it doesn't run instantly on windows
[08:28] <scguy318> dumbass1337: no
[08:28] <Ademan> !wine dumbass1337
[08:28] <anvilsmith> Ademan, I think I'm running under feisty right now, unless Ubuntu auto-updates.
[08:28] <scguy318> !wine | dumbass1337
[08:28] <ubotu> dumbass1337: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[08:28] <erUSUL> dumbass1337: yes, it is the same the other way around
[08:28] <Ademan> anvilsmith: strange, i've got no idea
[08:28] <dumbass1337> scguy318: that's worse than the apartheid in south africa
[08:28] <computer12345> u mean PID?
[08:28] <scguy318> computer12345: yep
[08:28] <computer12345> k :)
[08:29] <anvilsmith> Ademan, I'll post about it on the official forums.
[08:29] <erUSUL> dumbass1337: also macosX apps do not work on linux or windows and viceversa
[08:29] <scguy318> everyone ignore dumbass1337, don't feed the trolls
[08:29] <demon012> morning all
[08:29] <computer12345> why bin? hehe
[08:29] <dumbass1337> scguy318: finally.
[08:29] <dumbass1337> lol, do you not recognize boredom when you see it? :P
[08:29] <computer12345> why not just firefox
[08:29] <cosuka_ngedj> ffffffffffffffffff
[08:29] <Ademan> !offtopic | dumbass1337
[08:29] <ubotu> dumbass1337: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:29] <inversekinetix> whats wrong dumbass l337?
[08:29] <sandaru1> computer12345: firefox-bin is the process name
[08:29] <redtux> new2Ubuntu: wammu, yes
[08:30] <Ademan> probably a good plan anvilsmith, out of curiosity are you on a laptop?
[08:30] <DiViN3> redtux: how do i check if my network card is configured correctly
[08:30] <anvilsmith> Ademan, yeah. HP550 Omnibook.
[08:30] <miked595> so anyways... anyone know how to set the user avatar in ubuntu?
[08:30] <deren> hello.. can anybody help me please?..
[08:30] <deren> i have a problem with my notebook screen brightness. it changes automatically. increase and decrease automatically while i working.   in debian on same laptop, i havent any problem like this.
[08:30] <new2Ubuntu> redtux do youuse a cable or bluetooth?
[08:30] <computer12345> so the bin is the one the process and firefox?
[08:30] <anvilsmith> Ademan, I haven't tried testing the bug on any other OS.
[08:30] <Ademan> anvilsmith: me too, mind sending me that forum link once you post?
[08:30] <sandaru1> miked595: System -> Preferences -> About Me
[08:31] <Ademan> dunno if it's related, but it sounds very similar
[08:31] <Ademan> for me, it started with gutsy, feisty worked perfectly
[08:31] <new2Ubuntu> redtux What phone do you use. I cant get wammu to work with it at all :(
[08:31] <inversekinetix> how does ALSA compare to ASIO?
[08:31] <redtux> DiViN3: cat /etc/network/interfaces ; cat /etc/resolv.conf (and try to ping the IP of your windoze-box...)
[08:31] <computer12345> also why does my wireless keeps asking for a password everytime? im on xubuntu 7.10
[08:31] <sandaru1> computer12345: it's just for firefox.. firefox-bin is the process name of the firefox.. try killing some other apps.. you'll see
[08:31] <In_Silico> I have dual-vga displays, and I finally got my card recognized and working with accelleration etc, but for some reason my main monitor doesn't show the resolutions it should
[08:31] <erUSUL> inversekinetix: apple to oranges ??
[08:31] <miked595> sandaru1, thanx... never noticed that guess i need to install evolution-data back in
[08:31] <redtux> new2Ubuntu: both (usb and bt)
[08:31] <scguy318> computer12345: the keychain thing?
[08:32] <suupaabaka> Does anyone know how to turn off one CPU core on a Core 2 Duo?
[08:32] <saltydav> hello my monitor is dvi-d(dual link) and my x1600 is dvi-i (dual link). would this work out? what kind of dvi cable do i need? do companies cerate such cables?
[08:32] <inversekinetix> erUSUL what do you mean?
[08:32] <In_Silico> but my 2nd monitor DOES show resolutions that are beyond its ability
[08:32] <computer12345> keychain?
[08:32] <Ademan> inversekinetix: that means they're totally different things, although i've got no clue what ASIO is
[08:32] <DiViN3> redtux: it dsnt shows my window-box ip at all
[08:32] <scguy318> computer12345: where you get asked to unlock the keychain
[08:32] <In_Silico> any ideas how to get my first(better) monitor to at least have the same resolution than my 2nd(older) monitor?
[08:32] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: you can try a SMP disabled kernel
[08:32] <computer12345> a windows pops up
[08:33] <computer12345> then it lets me connect to wireless after password enetered
[08:33] <suupaabaka> sandaru]: Would that let me turn it on and off at will?
[08:33] <new2Ubuntu> redtux When it tries to connect through bluetooth it says it doesnt have blctl and pybluez hence cant use it and thorough cable it can connect but nothing works after that like getting contacts etc
[08:33] <redtux> new2Ubuntu: atm motorola L6 - did you check your logs?
[08:33] <erUSUL> inversekinetix: they are not comparable... asio is a standar and alsa is a sound driver stack alsa can be asio conformant (dunno if that's the case) but windows sound drivers can be asio conformant too afaik
[08:33] <computer12345> never mind
[08:33] <computer12345> ill deal with that later
[08:33] <ac> what are "edgy", "dapper", "feisty", etc? Are these "releases"? Where do I find a list of them, and how do I find which is the current one?
[08:33] <computer12345> :)
[08:33] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: no.. there'll be a correct solution for ur problem
[08:34] <In_Silico> yes, AC those are the releases
[08:34] <scguy318> computer12345: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager automatic keyring section
[08:34] <scguy318> anyway im gonna go cya all
[08:34] <Ademan> inversekinetix: i could be insanely wrong, but from what i just read, ASIO sounds more similar to JACK than ALSA
[08:34] <DiViN3> redtux: ok just tell me how u setup networking from scratch plz like how u do in a newly installed box
[08:34] <computer12345> thnx
[08:34] <new2Ubuntu> redtux Pretty new ot this so didnt notice any logs being created . Where can I read it?
[08:34] <redtux> DiViN3: your server's IP does not have to show up. can you ping it?
[08:34] <suupaabaka> sandaru]: A game I'm trying to run doesn't work well with two CPUs, so I was thinking I could turn one of them off for the duration of the game.
[08:34] <ac> In_Silico: how do I find out what the current release is?
[08:35] <scguy318> ac: lsb_release -a
[08:35] <In_Silico> Most recent is Gutsy I believe
[08:35] <Ademan> suupaabaka: what game?
[08:35] <computer12345> thnx all, see ya
[08:35] <redtux> new2Ubuntu: i've had the best experiences w/ KMobileTools...
[08:35] <scguy318> In_Silico: yep, and I think you asked about my FiOs, great speeds :D
[08:35] <Ademan> suupaabaka: is it running "too fast" ?
[08:35] <new2Ubuntu> redtux can I use it on a default installation of Ubuntu ?
[08:35] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: you can use the SMP disabled workaround.. but you'll have to reboot everytime
[08:36] <redtux> new2Ubuntu: i did so
[08:36] <suupaabaka> Ademan: It's UrbanTerror, and it's too slow... I get between 10-19fps on it. I can play Quake 3 engine games perfectly through Wine, but not UrbanTerror, which is native.
[08:36] <new2Ubuntu> Thanks will check it out redtux :)
[08:37] <Sharpie> is there any way to simulate IE (for sites that don't work in firefox)?
[08:37] <suupaabaka> sandaru]: Ah, I see... and you wouldn't happen to know how to enable direct rendering, would you?
[08:37] <saltydav> hello my monitor is dvi-d(dual link) and my x1600 is dvi-i (dual link). would this work out? what kind of dvi cable do i need? do companies cerate such cables?
[08:37] <Ademan> suupaabaka: wierd, can't believe dual processors is HURTING performance lol, if it was too fast I had a fix, unfortunately i'm unfamiliar with this problem :-/
[08:37] <ac> scguy318: I assume that gives me what I'm currently running, not what ubuntu has released most recently, right?
[08:37] <scguy318> ac: yes
[08:37] <scguy318> ac: latest is Gutsy
[08:37] <scguy318> Ademan: a lot of games aren't designed for SMP systems
[08:37] <Ademan> suupaabaka: oh, if you're not using direct rendering yeah that's equivalent to being in software mode on windows, so that would account for slowness lol
[08:37] <Cypher> question: i see lots of beryl skydomes on the web but no compiz fusion skydomes
[08:37] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: not in the gaming world.. but there is one in Xorg conf files
[08:37] <ac> scguy318: how do you know that? I can't find any mention of releases on the ubuntu website
[08:37] <Snakudes> exit
[08:37] <suupaabaka> Ademan: Yeah, that's what I thought. I thought it was a driver problem for my Intel graphics chipset... oh, I see.
[08:37] <Cypher> does beryl work with compiz ?
[08:37] <inversekinetix> erUSUL cool theres asio drivers for wine
[08:38] <scguy318> ac: I think it says somewhere on the site, hold on
[08:38] <Ademan> scguy318: from any standpoint I can think of, that shouldn't make a difference...
[08:38] <[chr0n0s]> can anyone help me with this ? --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43518/
[08:38] <suupaabaka> sandaru]: Oh, really? Could you please elaborate?
[08:38] <ac> scguy318: this has puzzled me about both debian and ubuntu for a long time: who comes up with these names?
[08:38] <In_Silico> I have 2 vga's running atm, and the first is a nice professional-grade 17", the 2nd a cheapo gateway 15". Right now, the shitty gateway is allowing resolutions above 1200x1600(which it can't display) but the nice pro monitor won't go above 1024 x 768 - any ideas on how to get them both at least to 1280x1024?
[08:38] <In_Silico> hippies
[08:38] <Cypher> how does the emerald theme manager work with Compiz Fusion is on ?
[08:38] <Cypher> .
[08:39] <scguy318> ac: hmm, dunno actually :P
[08:39] <Cypher> when*
[08:39] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: what's ur video card?
[08:39] <scguy318> ac: 7.10 == Gutsy really, the average Joe wouldn't care
[08:39] <suupaabaka> sandaru]: It's an Intel GMA950 Media Accelerator. I think it's the equivalent of a 945.
[08:39] <ac> scguy318: I care because I have to change my sources.list whenever I want to do a dist-upgrade
[08:39] <scguy318> ac: why not use the Update Manager?
[08:39] <inversekinetix> Cypher emerald just gives you annoying window frames
[08:40] <ac> scguy318: never heard of it
[08:40] <In_Silico> AC: the names start with the RC letter a, b, c, d, etc - d was Dapper Drake, E was Edgy Eft, F was Feisty Fawn, etc...
[08:40] <scguy318> ac: are you using Kubuntu?
[08:40] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: glxinfo | grep -i 'direct rendering'
[08:40] <tony_> ls
[08:40] <ac> scguy318: not sure what flavor of ubuntu I'm using, think it's xbuntu
[08:40] <redtux> DiViN3: System -> Administration -> Networking (see https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/internet/C/connect-to-internet.html)
[08:40] <scguy318> Ademan: you probably know more than I do in such matters
[08:40] <inversekinetix> In Silico  switch the monitors around
[08:40] <scguy318> ac: System -> Administration -> Update Manager
[08:40] <In_Silico> inverse: make my 2nd one the main monitor?
[08:40] <scguy318> ac: if theres a possible upgrade you would be allowed to upgrade there
[08:40] <ac> scguy318: I'm not running gnome or xfce or anything like that. What's the name of the executable?
[08:41] <scguy318> ac: gnome-update-manager I think
[08:41] <suupaabaka> sandaru]: The output is: "direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set)"
[08:41] <inversekinetix> In_Silico  physically unplug them monitors and change the cables
[08:41] <bullgard4> What is the function of the loaded module 'serio_raw' (Raw serio driver'?
[08:41] <erUSUL> inversekinetix: :)
[08:41] <scguy318> ac: my mistake
[08:41] <scguy318> ac: update-manager
[08:41] <Sharpie> what does the ubufox extension do?
[08:41] <Cypher> how does one use and install Emerald themes????
[08:41] <iStiKs> sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:41] <scguy318> Sharpie: seamless integration of Ubuntu repo with Firefox plugins, something like that ish
[08:41] <inversekinetix> Cypher do it through synaptic
[08:41] <Ademan> scguy318: ah, sorry, i just got the impression you knew something i didn't lol
[08:41] <In_Silico> uh...will that change where they are in relation to eachother, or will they be redetected and reassigned?
[08:41] <ac> scguy318: does that modify sources.list automatically?
[08:41] <scguy318> ac: yes
[08:41] <scguy318> ac: automatic and all that
[08:42] <scguy318> anyway im gonna really go for real
[08:42] <Sharpie> scguy318: and it disables the update button, so i can't get <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:42] <scguy318> cya all
[08:42] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: i'm not sure direct rendering is supported by i915 drivers.. as far as i remember intel drivers support that
[08:42] <inversekinetix> In_Silico it probably will
[08:42] <scguy318> Sharpie: can't upgrade Firefox unless you want to do it yourself :P
[08:42] <ac> scguy318: thanks :P
[08:42] <scguy318> Sharpie: since Ubuntu is all about version stability
[08:42] <scguy318> k im going for real cya
[08:42] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, there is a section called "Device".. what's the driver used there?
[08:42] <Sharpie> cya
[08:43] <Cypher> inversekinetix does Emerald go along with Compiz Fusion or do you have to use one or the other?
[08:43] <Cypher> im trying to figure it out.
[08:43] <inversekinetix> Cypher Im using it now, theres only one theme I have that I like,
[08:43] <suupaabaka> sandaru]: It's the "i810" driver. I switched to that from "intel" in the hopes of getting Direct Rendering to work, but to no avial.
[08:44] <redtux> new2Ubuntu: when you connect through USB, the device should be reachable through /dev/ttyACM0 (or ACM1, 2 etc.) - this can be checked by running "tail -f /var/log/syslog" before you plug in your mobile...
[08:44] <linknet> kkk
[08:44] <Cypher> so can you also use compiz fusion with it
[08:44] <Cypher> ?
[08:44] <linknet> maybe
[08:44] <sandaru1> suupaabaka add : Option          "DRI"     "true"
[08:44] <inversekinetix> Cypher Yes. compiz is a window manager and emerald is a window decorator ( i think theyre the right terms)
[08:44] <cdrrx> hello i've freshly installed xubuntu and i've a problem with firefox - it takes 20 seconds to display a tab - it seems to be a solution here http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1249126#p1249126 but ican't save my file ... remember i'm new on xubuntu ... could anyone take my problem in charge. thanks in advance ^
[08:45] <suupaabaka> sandaru
[08:45] <suupaabaka> sandaru]: Done.
[08:45] <Cypher> i keep trying to install emerald themes
[08:45] <Cypher> but it's not working :\
[08:45] <inversekinetix> Cypher after you install Emerald youll get a control panel in SYSTEM　＞＞＞PREFERENCES
[08:45] <inversekinetix> Cypher what isnt working?
[08:45] <Cypher> i can't get an emerald theme to load
[08:45] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: this is kinda trial and error, you'll have to restart X and see :)
[08:46] <inversekinetix> cypher do you have the program installed?
[08:46] <suupaabaka> sandaru]: Will do... I'll be back :D
[08:46] <Cypher> i can see emerald theme manager in pref
[08:46] <inversekinetix> cypher  start the emerald manager
[08:46] <Cypher> i'd assume so..
[08:46] <demosthenes> anyone had any luck with the AverMedia Hybrid TV/FM PCI card?
[08:46] <Cypher> i did thayt
[08:46] <Cypher> and then i try to click on a theme
[08:46] <In_Silico> Ok, awesome - now I switched the monitors and they're backwards...any way to get my desktop back on the other one?
[08:46] <Cypher> and it doesn't load the theme..
[08:47] <Cypher> i have a theme highlighted right now
[08:47] <inversekinetix> Cypher did you restart after installing it?
[08:47] <Cypher> now what?
[08:47] <cdrrx> anyone ?
[08:47] <In_Silico> heh, nevermind...guess it's just drag the bars and drop them :P
[08:47] <inversekinetix> Cypher double click on the theme and it should apply it, i had to restart to get it to work
[08:48] <Cypher> does it show that it was applyed
[08:48] <Cypher> or just double click and restart?
[08:48] <inversekinetix> Cypher it should just apply it
[08:49] <DiViN3> redtux: r u there
[08:49] <redtux> new2Ubuntu: already tried?
[08:49] <redtux> DiViN3: yes!
[08:49] <jack> can i take the MBR off of a drive that is same size and brand and use on another and retrive data from a bad partion?
[08:49] <suupaabaka> sandaru]: Still no luck :(
[08:50] <Cypher> one more question..
[08:50] <DiViN3> redtux: ok its reads my ip/netmask/gateway
[08:50] <new2Ubuntu> redtux im not on my Linux system but I was checking out the site for kmobiletools
[08:50] <DiViN3> so whts next
[08:50] <inversekinetix> sure
[08:50] <Cypher> why cant i find any skydomes for compiz fusion?
[08:50] <Cypher> all of them say for beryl
[08:50] <Cypher> :(
[08:50] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: can you paste your xorg.conf file in pastebin?
[08:50] <inversekinetix> Cypher I dont know, will they still work?
[08:50] <redtux> DiViN3: so you can ping your windoze-box? can you reach the ubuntu box from your windoze-box?
[08:50] <new2Ubuntu> Redtux Tipically best working phones are Motorola, good ones are also SonyEricsson. The worst are Nokia (unless someone will help us with gammu engine).
[08:50] <suupaabaka> sandaru1: What's a pastebin? Sorry about my noobiness :D
[08:51] <sandaru1> !pastebin | suupaabaka
[08:51] <ubotu> suupaabaka: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:51] <Casey> Cypher: They should still work for Compiz Fusion
[08:51] <Cypher> doesn't seem like it
[08:51] <DiViN3> redtux:ok how do i ping my windows box huh from ubuntu-box
[08:52] <inversekinetix> Cypher, I just use high resolution pictures for my skydome
[08:52] <redtux> new2Ubuntu: well, i'm always unhappy with my mobiles - no matter what brand they are... :) and i am also often having problems with connecting/syncing stuff...
[08:52] <Cypher> i want to find some animated ones
[08:52] <redtux> DiViN3: ping <IP>
[08:52] <suupaabaka> sandaru1: Here's the url http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43519/
[08:53] <redtux> !ping | DiViN3
[08:53] <ubotu> DiViN3: pong
[08:53] <inversekinetix> Cypher just click the "animate" button
[08:53] <jack> can i take the MBR off of a drive that is same size and brand and use on another and retrive data from a bad NTFS partition?
[08:53] <new2Ubuntu> redtux tell me about it lol. Ive tried wammu and gnokii so far :S
[08:54] <user_> I wouln't think so
[08:54] <inversekinetix> Cypher try to find some 360 degree panaramas
[08:54] <redtux> DiViN3: cat /etc/network/interfaces ; cat /etc/resolv.conf - is the namerserver correctly set?
[08:54] <user_> MBR is like a drive's fingerprint
[08:55] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43520/
[08:55] <redtux> new2Ubuntu: you might also try Kandy...
[08:55] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: look at the modules section at the top
[08:55] <Cypher> i've been looking for 360 degree ones
[08:55] <Cypher> cant find any :(
[08:55] <new2Ubuntu> Will check that out redtux thanks for the help :)
[08:55] <suupaabaka> sandaru1: Should I put that in my xorg.conf?
[08:55] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: yes, try that
[08:56] <DiViN3> redtux:cat /etc/resolv.conf <--------dsnt show anything
[08:56] <SoulChild> hey all, i have a Core2Duo T7100 with 64bit support, which ubuntu version do i need to install? amd64 or x86 ?
[08:56] <suupaabaka> sandaru1: Thanks, I'll be right back :)
[08:56] <inversekinetix> Cypher do a google search for "panorama"  there are loads of massive ones
[08:56] <smmagic> soulchild: is it just 64 bit or support?
[08:56] <SoulChild> smmagic: yes it supports 64 but
[08:57] <SoulChild> *bit
[08:57] <redtux> new2Ubuntu: np :) - tell me if it worked - i've been fighting w/ bluetooth pairing & obex here... will try gnokii now. :)
[08:57] <smmagic> SoulChild: Then you could probably install 32 if it is enabled
[08:57] <SoulChild> smmagic: 32 ???
[08:58] <blue42> question about finch: can't get it to see the config file .gntrc
[08:58] <Cypher> ty inversekinetix
[08:58] <smmagic> Which bit do you have enabled?
[08:58] <suupaabaka> sandaru1: Still no luck; I tried both i810 and intel drivers.
[08:58] <zombie_monkey> http://pastebin.com/df5dc54a -> my sources.list and the error I get
[08:59] <redtux> DiViN3: but you can ping your windoze-box? then just type "sudoedit /etc/resolv.conf" -> nameserver <NS-IP> -> CTRL-X -> Y ;)
[08:59] <co^ganteng> hey by the way can i little talk with you
[08:59] <co^ganteng> how are you
[08:59] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: try running this  and paste LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
[08:59] <suupaabaka> sandaru1: Still no luck; I tried both i810 and intel drivers.
[08:59] <co^ganteng> really
[08:59] <redtux> !networking | DiViN3
[08:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <redtux> !network | DiViN3
[08:59] <ubotu> DiViN3: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:59] <zombie_monkey> http://pastebin.com/df5dc54a -> my sources.list and the error I get; I can't really formulate it as a question
[09:00] <co^ganteng> by the way,whats your real name
[09:00] <suupaabaka> sandaru1: Should I pastebin it as well?
[09:00] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: yes
[09:00] <co^ganteng> cause i am very amazed about it
[09:00] <inversekinetix> Cypher np, if you get ones that are a bit taller than the height of your desktop and animate it, it will look cool
[09:00] <ac> wouldn't it be cool if apt had a front end for all the other package management systems, like CPAN, cabal, python's eggs, etc?
[09:00] <Gary> co^ganteng, this is a support channel, please take chat to -offtopic please
[09:01] <co^ganteng> where are you from
[09:01] <sybariten> i am running emacs 21.4, got it via apt
[09:01] <ac> so you could say "apt-get perl install Foo::Bar"
[09:01] <suupaabaka> sandaru1: Here's the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43521/
[09:01] <sybariten> i suspect i have quite an old ubuntu version
[09:01] <redtux> zombie_monkey: where does the "web" come from? delete it and try again...
[09:01] <sybariten> i am not too keen on upgrading at the moment
[09:01] <sybariten> how do i find out if i can install emacs v22?
[09:01] <co^ganteng> can you tell me a little about your hobby
[09:01] <sybariten> i can not see it via "apt cache search emacs", at least
[09:02] <anvilsmith> Ademan , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3715488#post3715488
[09:02] <sybariten> i guess my first step would be to find out which ubuntu version i am running, but i dont know that either
[09:02] <anvilsmith> Ademan, hope you're still here to read this. I'll log off.
[09:02] <co^ganteng> hey
[09:02] <Ademan> thanks anvilsmith
[09:02] <ac> and that would go and do cpan commands, and free you from learning how to use all those other package managers
[09:03] <zombie_monkey> redtux: no idea, but i have had similar problems with all versions sice 6.10, as have two otehr people that I know use ubuntu. So I have to delete all the instances of "web" in sources.list?
[09:03] <zeroflag> I need a few hdparm commands to run at startup. where would I put them? (it seems the spindown settings have to be set every time)
[09:03] <dgjones> !version | sybariten, The easy way to check which version you are running is this
[09:03] <ubotu> sybariten, The easy way to check which version you are running is this: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[09:03] <inversekinetix> bbl
[09:04] <thomasWSU> anyone hear anything new about the mono-xsp broken package
[09:04] <zombie_monkey> how could they ahve got there, if they're not supposed to be there... actually I saw the actual release file adn there were no "web"s there so i htought that's probably the problem but I didn't want to delete anything that ubuntu has put
[09:04] <Arsanerit> Hello. I am trying to send e-mail with exim4, the smarthost communicates over SSL on port 465. I have downloaded the certificate, where do I put it?
[09:04] <ithilin> hey could someone help me with compiling a tar.gz file?
[09:04] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: did you set a parameter called "LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT"?
[09:04] <ithilin> I have no idea what to do
[09:04] <redtux> zombie_monkey: well, afaik there is no repository called web...
[09:04] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: try "set | grep LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT"
[09:04] <Arsanerit> All documentation that I can find seems to relate to the server.
[09:04] <zombie_monkey> well why is it there then...
[09:05] <co^ganteng> fuck you
[09:05] <suupaabaka> sandaru1: Done, but glxinfo still reports no.
[09:05] <zombie_monkey> this is a very fresh install
[09:05] <carl-> someone here who knows how to fix the ati-driver .. they removed the xinerama support in gutsy .. and i need it .. no idea how to fix it though ??
[09:05] <sybariten> dgjones: thanks
[09:05] <co^ganteng> shut up please
[09:05] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: did "set...." output anything?
[09:05] <redtux> zombie_monkey: na - file a bug
[09:05] <co^ganteng> are you kiding
[09:05] <suupaabaka> sandaru1: Oh, the output of that command was LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1
[09:05] <sybariten> OK, i am running Dapper. I have emacs 21.x. I dont have the time to upgrade ubuntu at the moment. Does anyone know if i can get emacs v22 installed via dpkg/apt, somehow??
[09:06] <co^ganteng> agnul
[09:06] <insomnia_> just have a dumb question, ubuntu 7.10, is it normal for 80% of 2 gigs of ram to be used as cache?
[09:06] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: export LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=0
[09:06] <co^ganteng> really
[09:06] <zombie_monkey> redtux: it works ok now, but I suspect it will appear again
[09:06] <suupaabaka> sandaru1: Done. But glxinfo doesn't change.
[09:06] <zombie_monkey> filing.
[09:06] <co^ganteng> reasonable its my wanted
[09:07] <h3ndra> test
[09:07] <keegan> hi guys , how do i figure out what graphics card i have and how do i use it with ubuntu .. its working now but its just VGA ..
[09:07] <co^ganteng> i will give you some suggestion
[09:07] <redtux> zombie_monkey: great - and well, now you know how to fix it... *smile*
[09:07] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: now paste "LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo" again
[09:07] <insomnia_> keegan what is the make and model computer?
[09:07] <co^ganteng> i think lcd is more good than vga
[09:08] <insomnia_> ganteng, lcd is a type of display, vga is the input method
[09:08] <co^ganteng> how do you do caci
[09:08] <keegan> insomnia_:  sony vaio fz 140 e laptop
[09:08] <Evanlec> insomnia_, yes, linux is designed that way, it takes advantage of your extra ram by caching stuff
[09:08] <Arsanerit> How do I add a CA Certificate to my system?
[09:08] <Arsanerit> !certificate
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about certificate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <suupaabaka> sandaru1: Here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43522/
[09:08] <Arsanerit> !SSL
[09:08] <co^ganteng> maybe
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ssl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <insomnia_> tthank you evan =)
[09:08] <Evanlec> insomnia_, if u type 'free' in console it will give u a breakdown of what is actually in use and what is cache'd
[09:08] <Arsanerit> !certs
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about certs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT is still there :(
[09:08] <co^ganteng> malbak,by the way ho do you do now
[09:09] <insomnia_> ah, great, thanks =) any way to clear the cache?
[09:09] <suupaabaka> sandaru1: Yeah, I have no idea why :(
[09:09] <co^ganteng> bad maybe
[09:09] <redtux> !apache-ssl | Arsanerit
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apache-ssl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <Paddy_EIRE> Arsanerit, use '/msg ubotu whatever'
[09:09] <Evanlec> insomnia_, i wouldnt bother if i were you, it will make room for whatever aplications need the memory
[09:09] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: echo $LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT and tell me the output
[09:09] <co^ganteng> sandarul i think u must break a few hours
[09:09] <insomnia_> gotcha evan.
[09:09] <Evanlec> insomnia_, there probably is tho
[09:09] <Evanlec> insomnia_, but i dont know ;p
[09:09] <Arsanerit> redtux: How is it related to Apacche?
[09:10] <co^ganteng> suuaapaabaka where are you now
[09:10] <suupaabaka> sandaru1: The output just came back with "0"
[09:10] <Arsanerit> Paddy_EIRE: This way, my question reaches human users too.
[09:10] <co^ganteng> about sex
[09:10] <keegan> insomnia_:  sony vaio fz 140 e laptop
[09:10] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah but it also floods the channel
[09:10] <davidwinter> hi all. I'm looking for a UML app. I use ArgoUML on my Mac. Does anyone have any recommendations?
[09:10] <Paddy_EIRE> Arsanerit, ^
[09:10] <Paddy_EIRE> Arsanerit, although I get ya
[09:11] <co^ganteng> laptop is more ood
[09:11] <redtux> Arsanerit: what do you neet it for? in apache they are at /etc/apache-ssl/*.pem - or do you just want to place it in your browser?
[09:11] <co^ganteng> but more simple
[09:11] <Arsanerit> redtux: I need it for sending e-mail with eim4.
[09:11] <co^ganteng> apache is a merk
[09:11] <Gary> !ops co^ganteng - language and random chat after warning
[09:11] <insomnia_> keegan: check  your pm
[09:11] <co^ganteng> really
[09:12] <Arsanerit> I'm trying to relay mail to a smarthost using SSL and SMTP AUTH with exim4, and I downloaded a certificate. I need to install the certificate somewhere and tell exim4 to use it.
[09:12] <Evanlec> bah where's the bot?
[09:12] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: did you change .bashrc?
[09:12] <keegan> insomnia_:  i didnt get any pm. i guess its cause i am not registered
[09:12] <redtux> Arsanerit: /etc/exim4/exim.crt & /etc/exim4/exim.key ;)
[09:12] <insomnia_> ok
[09:12] <co^ganteng> by the way are you stillbachelor or married
[09:12] <suupaabaka> sandaru1: I don't think so... how do I check?
[09:12] <co^ganteng> u must check again
[09:12] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: vi ~/.bashrc
[09:13] <insomnia_> keegan: are you running windows or ubuntu on it at the moment?
[09:13] <Arsanerit> redtux: According to various websites, that is server-side, not client-side.
[09:13] <co^ganteng> can you give me some suggetion to be succesful
[09:13] <keegan> insomnia_:  i am running ubuntu 7.10
[09:13] <redtux> Arsanerit: anyway, that' not really related to ubuntu... :)
[09:13] <suupaabaka> sandaru1: What am aI looking for?
[09:13] <co^ganteng> please
[09:13] <redtux> Arsanerit: yes, that's true
[09:13] <co^ganteng> you look so sad
[09:13] <redtux> !exim | Arsanerit
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <Evanlec> !where are you!
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about where are you! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: export LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1
[09:13] <insomnia_> keegan: ok, one moment
[09:14] <co^ganteng> my name is noryz
[09:14] <Evanlec> !ops | co^ganteng  disruptive chatter
[09:14] <ubotu> co^ganteng  disruptive chatter: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[09:14] <Arsanerit> redtux: All documentation that I have found so far is server-side. I don't need to run an SMTP server, I merely need to relay mail to a smarthost using SMTH AUTH over SSL.
[09:14] <co^ganteng> i am from indonesia
[09:14] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: you'll have to track down where you are setting that evn variable and remove that.. i'm not sure where else to look
[09:14] <Evanlec> byes
[09:14] <bullgard4> /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>/Documentation/i386/IO-APIC.txt staes: "Most (all) Intel-MP compliant SMP boards have the so-called 'IO-APIC'." /proc/interrupts lists 12 times 'IO-APIC'. Why does lspci -vv | grep -i IO-APIC return no output?
[09:14] <Evanlec> thnk u madpilot
[09:14] <Madpilot> if he comes back, hit ops again
[09:14] <suupaabaka> sandaru1: It's not in .bashrc, then... I have no idea where it could be.
[09:14] <Evanlec> k
[09:14] <cdrrx> i'm trying to do that tip (http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1249126#p1249126) but i've some difficulty - anyone ready to help me ?
[09:15] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: also check .xinitrc
[09:15] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
[09:16] <suupaabaka> sandaru1: It's not there either.
[09:16] <crolle17> i got this funny js-message in firefox: [Exception... "Component is not available" nsresult: "0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE)" location: "JS frame :: file:///usr/lib/firefox/components/nsSessionStore.js :: sss_saveState
[09:16] <knifepoint> can someone check this out for me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=601090 its filling up my log files and annoying me no end
[09:16] <crolle17> all is working, but it's ugly...
[09:16] <insomnia_> keegan: go into the system tab, administration, then software sources
[09:17] <Johan-_> I've got a strange error when starting X (xfce4) on my 7.10 server installation, All keys except the letterkeys works. What could be wrong?
[09:17] <insomnia_> keegan: then enable all of the check marks in the first tab
[09:17] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: try running this : "LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=0 glxinfo"
[09:18] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: i'm out of options now... you'll have to catch a xorg expert..
[09:18] <suupaabaka> sandaru1: I really appreciate the effort, mate.
[09:18] <saltydav> hello my monitor is dvi-d(dual link) and my x1600 is dvi-i (dual link). would this work out? what kind of dvi cable do i need? do companies cerate such cables?
[09:18] <keegan> insomnia_:  i have marked all the tabs .  my display works but it dosnt let me use the ubuntu visual effects of the desktop :(
[09:18] <suupaabaka> sandaru1: Thanks so much for helping me out.
[09:18] <GonTosh> xD
[09:18] <sandaru1> suupaabaka: np :)
[09:18] <GonTosh> i finally got mine working
[09:18] <GonTosh> x1600xt
[09:19] <GonTosh> dual dvi
[09:19] <keegan> insomnia_:  Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Cont --- this is what my device manager says
[09:19] <patbam> hi folks, i just installed a brand new hard drive and i wnat to install ubuntu on it. the live cd apparently does not see the disk; could this be because it's unformatted? if so, is there something i should do to format it? (if not, i guess i may have installed it incorrectly, the plugs or osmething...)
[09:19] <insomnia_> keegan: ohhh, i thought that model was the x1300 series from intel, which had native support
[09:19] <keegan> insomnia_:  do you know what options i should select in graphics for this one.
[09:20] <zombie_monkey> patbam: i don't think you need it to be formatted, you've probably plugged it in wrong
[09:20] <keegan> insomnia_:  so am i in luck now :)
[09:20] <hangver>  what's the finest thing you could do for another person?
[09:20] <insomnia_> keegan: maybe, give me another moment =)
[09:21] <keegan> sure
[09:21] <jodi2> hi guyS
[09:21] <co^ganteng_> hay
[09:21] <suupaabaka> sandaru1: I found it! It's in /usr/bin/compiz!
[09:21] <co^ganteng_> sapa yupz
[09:21] <co^ganteng_> sandarul fuck you
[09:21] <co^ganteng_> devil you
[09:22] <co^ganteng_> laptop apaan tuh
[09:22]  * N3bunel saluta
[09:22] <co^ganteng_> really
[09:22] <jodi2> is there a way to load kde on my ubuntu server but not let the server boot into kde but only into the shell as it does till now
[09:22] <co^ganteng_> sport
[09:22] <insomnia_> keegan: apparently that graphics adapter also has support built in out of the box
[09:22] <co^ganteng_> jodi where RE YOU FROM
[09:23] <jodi2> johannesburg
[09:23] <insomnia_> keegan: if you select the advanced graphics option, it should prompt you to enable the driver, then restart
[09:23] <insomnia_> keegan: does it not enable after the restart?
[09:23] <co^ganteng_> FUCK YOU
[09:23] <GonTosh> is there a site where i could find ubuntu themes?
[09:24] <cafuego> TROLL TROLL!
[09:24] <keegan> insomnia_:  in screen and graphics , i dont know what to select
[09:24] <cafuego> GonTosh: Yes, gnome-look.org
[09:24] <jodi2> anyone?
[09:24] <keegan> insomnia_:  there is an option for model , resolution
[09:24] <cafuego> GonTosh: There are probably others too,. google for gnome themes should pull up a bunch.
[09:24] <GonTosh> thanks cafuego
[09:25] <CochiseIRL> jodi2, yes but youĺl need to change the default run level
[09:25] <insomnia_> keegan: go to system, administration, then screen and graphics
[09:25] <insomnia_> keegan: then click the graphics card tab
[09:25] <AnAnt> Hello, I am trying to run a python based software called 'vsdviewer', but it gives me this error: ImportError: No module named gsf
[09:26] <adrisno_fr> ey
[09:26] <insomnia_> keegan: then select, "choose driver manually"
[09:26] <insomnia_> keegan: then select intel, then select the 965 driver under the intel option
[09:26] <kakeman> hello! I have a little problem with the wireless network in gutsy. I can't connect to unsecured network at my school, because there's not a choise to make with no encryption. Only wep and wpa.. can anyone help me?
[09:27] <keegan> insomnia_:  there are two there. should i select the same for both
[09:27] <redtux> how can i find out what's wrong if the system falls back to (initramfs) after an dist-upgrade? there are many open bugs, but i see no solutions (and all my old working initrd.img-*.bak's have already been overwritten)...
[09:28] <keegan> insomnia_:  what do i select under the screen tab
[09:28] <insomnia_> keegan: it shows 965 twice in the right side menu?
[09:28] <redtux> !initramfs
[09:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about initramfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:28] <keegan> no i have an option for selecting driver twice
[09:28] <import> need a help document on remastering ubuntu i want to make ubuntu use fluxbox instead of gnome. And i would like fluxbox to be installed instead of gnome when you click the install.Also how does the installation work, does it just copy everything from the squashfs file to the hard drive?
[09:29] <insomnia_> keegan: you can leave that tab alone, as long as it's set at the right resolution
[09:29] <keegan> should i select sony
[09:29] <keegan> cause i tampered with it before
[09:29] <insomnia_> ah
[09:29] <keegan> :}
[09:29] <insomnia_> lol
[09:29] <jack> can i take the MBR off of a drive that is same size and brand and use on another and retrive data from a bad NTFS partition?
[09:29] <keegan> there is some cpd-es
[09:30] <insomnia_> hold on a sec
[09:30] <olskolirc> hello.  I'm using ubuntu fiest fawn.  How do I upgrade to Gibson
[09:30] <keegan> okay . insomnia_ if i select detect it goes to generic
[09:30] <gordonjcp> olskolirc: you want to hack teh gibson ;-) ?
[09:30] <import> anyone have a answer for above?
[09:30] <insomnia_> keegan: yeah that's fine, thats what mine is set as
[09:30] <olskolirc> yeah I guess lol
[09:30] <gordonjcp> olskolirc: the updater should have an option to upgrade it for you
[09:30] <olskolirc> ok thanks
[09:31] <keegan> insomnia_:  generic or sony ?
[09:31] <void^> import: there's fluxbuntu
[09:31] <gordonjcp> jack: might work
[09:31] <xukun> is there somebody in here using hellanzb with ssl support?
[09:31] <insomnia_> keegan: let it auto detect and leave it on generic.
[09:31] <olskolirc> what is the command line for the updater
[09:31] <import> void would like to do a remaster so i know how things work :) only the best way to learn about your system and how it works
[09:31] <jack> gordonjcp: not sure though???
[09:31] <import> im a hands on kinda guy
[09:31] <keegan> insomnia_:  okat
[09:32] <Paddy_EIRE> olskolirc, sudo apt-get update
[09:32] <crolle17> where to start the firefox -profilemanager?
[09:32] <insomnia_> keegan: you can cause more problems than it is worth trying to get that selection right. =P
[09:32] <import> and i like to tinker alot
[09:32] <crolle17> i need the path
[09:32] <olskolirc> thats all?  I did that and my system went wacky
[09:32] <keegan> ah okay
[09:32] <keegan> well let me log off and check
[09:32] <keegan> thenks
[09:32] <keegan> thanks*
[09:32] <insomnia_> no problem =)
[09:32] <void^> import: read the documentation/some guides then
[09:33] <waffle> Is there a ps2 emulator?
[09:33] <Paddy_EIRE> waffle, no
[09:33] <waffle> ok
[09:33] <saltydav> hello my monitor is dvi-d(dual link) and my x1600 is dvi-i (dual link). would this work out? what kind of dvi cable do i need? do companies cerate such cables?
[09:34] <insomnia_> could anyone assist me in setting up a wireless g usb adapter through NDISwrapper?
[09:34] <redtux> !reconstructor | import
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reconstructor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <import> void does your documentation contain the information on the installation process. Does ubuntu copy everything off the squash file system to the hard drive. so if i remaster the squash file and apt-get remove gnome then apt-get install fluxbox, inside the chroot. Will ubuntu then use fluxbox for the install.
[09:35] <redtux> import: Reconstructor - Ubuntu Live CD Creator - http://reconstructor.aperantis.com
[09:35] <import> ill do some reading redtux im pretty curious though :P
[09:36] <olskolirc> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169 what does this mean?
[09:36] <olskolirc> I get that alot when I apt-get install or update or whatever
[09:37] <redtux> import: alright - have you already tried http://www.gnewsense.org/Builder/HowToCreateYourOwnGNULinuxDistribution ?
[09:37] <import> redtux i am playing to mount the squash file system and doing this manually not using some program to help me along.
[09:38] <import> redtux yes i have remastered a few cds but nothing like this
[09:38] <Gin> ubuntu does not mount my 4GB pro duo memory card automatically :(
[09:38] <import> redtux im just not sure if thats how things will work out. Im pretty sure not 100 percent that the squash file system is copied strieght off to the hard drive
[09:38] <ganjistus> yeah you need to  eat it
[09:38] <Gin> how to mount it manually so I can write to it without using sudo?
[09:39] <import> mount /dev/usb
[09:39] <Johan-_> I've got a strange error when starting X (xfce4) on my 7.10 server installation, All keys except the letterkeys works. What could be wrong?
[09:40] <erUSUL> Gin: pmount /dev/xxxx (where xxxx is the partition device)
[09:40] <Gin> import, it doesn't work
[09:40] <import> umm
[09:40] <Gin> the device is /dev/sdf1
[09:40] <import> mount /ev/sdf1
[09:40] <import> oops mount /dev/sdf1
[09:40] <erUSUL> Gin: pmount /dev/sdf1
[09:40] <ilreds> r
[09:40] <bloon1> how can I unrar some files?
[09:41] <import> to unmount its umount /dev/sdaf1
[09:41] <import> oh snaps hold on
[09:41] <olskolirc> I want to change my repository.  do i change the word fiesty with gibson then upgrade?
[09:41] <import> Gin you have to mount it to a file
[09:41] <olskolirc> I'm having a hard time upgrading
[09:41] <jack> speaking of mounting i think bill gates mounted me when he killed my friggin drives
[09:41] <import> so do this mount /dev/sdaf1 /mnt
[09:41] <redtux> import: k, sry - what about https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch ? i also guess it's being copied 1:1 - but i cannot securely confirm it. ;)
[09:41] <Gin> pmount /dev/sdf1 returns nothing
[09:41] <import> aw thank you red
[09:42] <erUSUL> Gin: that's the way it is supposed to work
[09:42] <import> Gin sry you need to mount /dev/sdaf1 /mnt
[09:42] <import> so like this
[09:42] <erUSUL> Gin: unix commands do not say anything when they succeed
[09:42] <import> mount /dev/sdaf1 to some file
[09:42] <erUSUL> Gin: check your media folder
[09:42] <SteamMachine>  Hi, I'm looking for an app that will allow me to plan the layout of a house/room. Anyone know of such an app?
[09:43] <import> redtux nice documentation thank you
[09:43] <Gin> ah, it worked
[09:43] <erUSUL> Gin: ;)
[09:43] <import> lol
[09:43] <Akatemik> How can I remove N bytes from the end of a file? Without just catting the first part
[09:43] <Gin> but how to set ubuntu to mount it automalically?
[09:43] <import> probably already does
[09:43] <erUSUL> Akatemik: man dd
[09:43] <jhaig> Can someone point me to a web page that details what is included in software updates in Ubuntu?
[09:43] <import> just unount it
[09:43] <import> then look in the media folder when u put it back in
[09:43] <Akatemik> erUSUL: Checked it, but the man page is far from the best (the whole problem was caused by that man page)
[09:43] <erUSUL> Gin: well that i dunno... it should have done so
[09:43] <computer12345> what is a good dvd player?
[09:43] <import> if not then make some kind of script for it bash is pretty easy
[09:44] <toot> hi
[09:44] <Gin> but I don't want to open the terminal each time I want to use the memory card
[09:44] <import> then you would put that in the boot file so it would boot
[09:44] <Akatemik> erUSUL: I don't want to copy the file, just do a inplace modification. A bit like "echo foo >>" but in reverse
[09:44] <import> or just click the file to open
[09:44] <toot> i really want to use the linux but to format my hole desk i canot do that
[09:44] <Akatemik> (Note to all, oflags=append doesn't actually append to a file...)
[09:45] <import> hmm GIN i will send you a script put it into a file and name it USB.sh then it will mount it when you click it okay hold on
[09:45] <tiglionabbit> hi.  I am trying to resize my windows partiton, but the partitioner has been at 0% for half an hour
[09:45] <tiglionabbit> what gives
[09:45] <Gin> import, ok :)
[09:45] <erUSUL> Akatemik: well i do not know of a way of doing it without copying
[09:46] <import> one sec
[09:46] <olskolirc> I found the upgrade button
[09:46] <xukun> can anybody please tell where to start if I want use hellanzb with ssl support?
[09:46] <olskolirc> I keep getting this error when I upgrade: Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[09:46] <olskolirc> whats going on?
[09:46] <erUSUL> import: a script wouldn't work you can not know the device file name in advance
[09:47]  * saltydav picks up the chair and proceed to hit jerry in the head
[09:47] <redtux> olskolirc: sudo aptitude update
[09:47] <olskolirc> ok thanks
[09:47] <erUSUL> import: if another usb/firewire/etc device is plugged the device names would change and the script will mount the wrong thing
[09:47] <primski> there has to be a bug in ssh or smwh... if i ssh on server with CLI, no problems there.... but if i ssh with nautilus, for file browsing, and i open a file in gedit...i cannot save it... tho i am the owner, and permissions are 777... anyone familiar with this type of problem?
[09:48] <import> well i guess he have to make sure its in that port and he doesnt have anything else in usb
[09:48] <import> Gin here open a new text file
[09:48] <redtux> import: can't find the information you're looking for. :( but if you want to learn, you could join #fluxbuntu and help them... :)
[09:48] <import> :)
[09:48] <redtux> olskolirc: did it work?
[09:48] <erUSUL> import: also if you use mount as you previausly (and wrongly) advised you will need root access and the files will be have to be accessed as root
[09:48] <olskolirc> no same error
[09:49] <olskolirc> it must be my sources.list
[09:49] <jack> can anybody tell me if i can do this ......can i take the MBR off of a drive that is same size and brand and use on another and retrive data from a bad NTFS partition?
[09:49] <import> sudo mount /dev/sdfs1
[09:49] <import> so that would be wrong?
[09:49] <import> Gin ya still there
[09:49] <humblerodent> hey guys....I'm in 7.10 64-bit, and trying to install Rhapsody, which has always worked great for me in previous Ubuntus....but now, everything seems like it's going fine, progress bar fills up, but then the installation item disappears, and it continues to behave as if Rhapsody was never installed, with no warning or error message.  any ideas?  TIA
[09:49] <erUSUL> jack: i do not think that wqould work
[09:49] <erUSUL> !info gpart | jack
[09:49] <Gin> import, I think it can be easier
[09:49] <ubotu> jack: gpart: Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1h-4.1 (gutsy), package size 35 kB, installed size 112 kB
[09:49] <newguy> hey there, lately ive been having some issues with banshee, its just not playing music anymore
[09:50] <art> Hey
[09:50] <newguy> ive tried reinstalling
[09:50] <redtux> import: yes, you said "mount /dev/..." - thus, your system won't know where to mount your device... and you will need sudo to mount stuff that's not in /etc/fstab...
[09:50] <import> gin trust me open a file type this in there #!/bin/bash
[09:50] <newguy> but its still not playing music :S
[09:50] <Gin> just make a launcher and run pmount /dev/sdf1 & nautilus /media/sdf1
[09:50] <sybariten> OK, i am running Dapper. I have emacs 21.x. I dont have the time to upgrade ubuntu at the moment. Does anyone know if i can get emacs v22 installed via dpkg/apt, somehow??
[09:50] <art> what i need use to burn daa image disc?
[09:50] <import> then type sudo mount /dev/sdaf1
[09:50] <Evanlec> !rhapsody
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rhapsody - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <import> save the file as usb.sh to desktop and leave it be
[09:50] <jack> erUSUL: thanks
[09:50] <jack> ubotu: thanks
[09:50] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[09:51] <newguy> ubotu: help me with banshee
[09:51] <import> when you click it it will ask for your password in a terminal type it and then it will be mounted
[09:51] <erUSUL> Gin: as i said to import that will fail if the devices names change (if you plug another card or usb/firewoire sata disk etc to your computer)
[09:51] <redtux> olskolirc: copy it here -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:51] <newguy> ubotu: you suck dude -.-
[09:51] <smmagic> !banshee
[09:51] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[09:51] <humblerodent> hey guys....I'm in 7.10 64-bit, and trying to install Rhapsody, which has always worked great for me in previous Ubuntus....but now, everything seems like it's going fine, progress bar fills up, but then the installation item disappears, and it continues to behave as if Rhapsody was never installed, with no warning or error message.  any ideas?  TIA
[09:51] <smmagic> Kudos to me :D
[09:51] <olskolirc> it says my repository is outdated
[09:51] <kruvalig_> i have Edia V mothernoard and ubuntu unstalled on this comp, This motherboard has onboard LAN, but it is not detected, What can i do to detect it&
[09:51] <kruvalig_> ?
[09:51] <primski> gd, gutsy has more bugs than feisty :s
[09:51] <olskolirc> hold on a sec :-)
[09:51] <art> What program can burn .daa files?
[09:52] <erUSUL> Gin: but it would work as a workaraund most of the time
[09:52] <import> yes it would lol
[09:52] <kruvalig_> i have Epia V motherboard and ubuntu installed on this comp, This motherboard has on board LAN, but it is not detected, What can i do to detect it?
[09:52] <import> erUSUL well i guess we are both technically right
[09:52] <redtux> newguy: only banshee? is your sound working?
[09:52] <import> lol
[09:52] <erUSUL> kruvalig_: try to manually load the driver
[09:52] <import> well im off to do some reading  redtux thank you again for the link its nice
[09:53] <newguy> ya sound works
[09:53] <newguy> its just banshee that doesnt want to play
[09:53] <erUSUL> kruvalig_: do lspaci to find the network card
[09:53] <bloon1> If I close down firefox and try to start it up again right away I get a msg that its already running.. anyone know how to fix it? remindes me abit of a windows bug..
[09:53] <newguy> its played before, just yesterday it crashed, and since then doesnt play music anymore
[09:53] <newguy> but i still have sound
[09:53] <newguy> i can watch youtube with sound etc etc
[09:53] <newguy> systems sounds too
[09:53] <humblerodent> hey guys....I'm in 7.10 64-bit, and trying to install Rhapsody, which has always worked great for me in previous Ubuntus....but now, everything seems like it's going fine, progress bar fills up, but then the installation item disappears, and it continues to behave as if Rhapsody was never installed, with no warning or error message.  any ideas?  TIA
[09:54] <Evanlec> !repeat | humblerodent
[09:54] <newguy> it had a gnarly crash yesterday though, took ages to force quit
[09:54] <ubotu> humblerodent: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:54] <Gin> if I use "pmount /dev/sdf1 & nautilus /media/sdf1" for the launcher command, it does nothing when I click on it.
[09:54] <art> What program can burn .daa files?
[09:54] <newguy> ive tried reinstalling, but that didnt help
[09:54] <smmagic> Does anyone know how to get firestarter to start on startup without a password?
[09:54] <niux> when i shutdown my pc yesterday, i was running 1440x990 with compiz. this morning im running low-gaphics mode? why? where can i see what went wrong?
[09:54] <xukun> is there a way to see if the ssl logs
[09:54] <import> i think it will work if i do it that way. Im about 88 percent sure that the squash file is copied to the harddrive so if i do everything like i said before, remove gnome ,apt fluxbox, inside squash file. Im hoping it works out. oh where did you say i should help? #fluxbuntu?
[09:55] <kruvalig_> -erUSUL- there is no such command  lspaci
[09:55] <smmagic> niux: Did you change any drivers
[09:55] <mwazn1> I'm kinda new to using linux and installed ubuntu 7.10 today. I have a Radeon HD2600XT graphics card and have managed to install the drivers(i think) and the catalyst control panel now sees the card and everything but when I try to enable any kind of desktop effects, it says "desktop effects cannot be enabled." Does anyone know how to get them working with this card?
[09:55] <soundray> humblerodent: how are you installing it?
[09:55] <smmagic> mwazn1:
[09:55] <niux> smmagic: only thing i did was adding burn annimation to compiz. didnt mess with anything
[09:55] <newguy> ive got no crash logs in /var/crash regarding banshee either
[09:55] <kosnick> i need some help with c . Any channel to suggest?
[09:55] <import> mwazn1 linux is so much easier then it use to be.
[09:55] <erUSUL> mwazn1: with ati cards you have to install xserver-xgl
[09:55] <niux> smmagic: thats why im wondering wtf happend
[09:56] <smmagic> Can you type this into a termnial for me and tell me what it says
[09:56] <kruvalig_> -erUSUL- lcpci?
[09:56] <art> What program can burn .daa files?
[09:56] <smmagic> glxinfo | grep rendering
[09:56] <import> k3b
[09:56] <erUSUL> kruvalig_: yes it will list your pci devices including the nic card
[09:56] <import> kruvalig k3b
[09:56] <soundray> smmagic: firestarter is just a frontend that creates iptables rules. Those should become active automatically at system boot, without firestarter having to be launched again.
[09:56] <olskolirc> i fixed it :-)
[09:56] <import> if you dont have it sudo apt-get install k3b
[09:56] <olskolirc> i took out that repository
[09:56] <mwazn1> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[09:57] <smmagic> No..aye?
[09:57] <redtux> olskolirc: great! :)
[09:57] <smmagic> try LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose
[09:57] <kosnick> i need some help with c. Any channel to suggest?
[09:57] <niux> smmagic: me?
[09:57] <smmagic> niux: I'm not sure with that
[09:57] <trym> what is the difference between normal and recovery mode?  Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[09:58] <epifanio> hi, i'm at my first "work-day" i need to know how set-up  a remote internet connction (no dhcp)
[09:58] <niux> smmagic: its ati card
[09:58] <epifanio>   my superior give me this data :  IP , MASK , GATEWAY  but the remote connection do not work
[09:58] <olskolirc> 11602 files
[09:58] <mwazn1> umm where do I type that?
[09:58] <epifanio> plese can you help me ?
[09:58] <smmagic> niux: There is ati version
[09:59] <smmagic> mwazn1: terminal
[09:59] <niux> smmagic: okay. thanks. think im gonna mess with the drivers first.
[09:59] <import> wow you guys have alot of traffic here in this channel amazing you keep up with everything
[09:59] <smmagic> niux: Good idea
[09:59] <soundray> trym: if recovery mode boots into anything other than a text-based root shell, then something is wrong with your /boot/grub/menu.lst -- perhaps you want to put that file on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for us to see.
[10:00] <mwazn1> ok im not sure if I did that right but here's what I put and what I got:
[10:00] <mwazn1> mark@mark-desktop:~$ glxinfo LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose -i | grep rendering
[10:00] <mwazn1>         -i: Force an indirect rendering context.
[10:00] <erUSUL> import: it helps when you address other people with her nick ;P
[10:00] <import> aw her
[10:00] <Gin> how to run a command and then wait 3 seconds and run another one
[10:00] <redtux> import: k3b can read .daa files?
[10:00] <smmagic> mwazn1: You went to restricted drivers manager to install right?
[10:00] <import> im pretty sure
[10:00] <Gin> and put that in a single command?
[10:00] <tvisto> hi all, anyone worked with mambo?
[10:00] <soundray> import: we don't. Questions get missed frequently -- if you don't get a reply, it's worth repeating after a polite interval (10-15 minutes)
[10:01] <import> redtux about 90 percent
[10:01] <niux> smmagic: could it be my screen isnt detected right for some reason.
[10:01] <import> lol
[10:01] <redtux> art: guess, there's no solution - at least if that thread is right... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204568
[10:01] <mwazn1> ya I did that but it didn't work so then I installed the drivers using the installer from the ati homepage
[10:01] <soundray> !los | import
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about los - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <import> other 10 percent is my bad luck
[10:01] <mwazn1> the newest one
[10:01] <soundray> !lol | import
[10:01] <ubotu> import: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[10:01] <erUSUL> Gin: use sleep 3 as intermediate command
[10:01] <import> wow
[10:01] <smmagic> niux: You could try using generic driver and see if it gets out of low graphics mode
[10:01] <tvisto> guys anyone worked with Mambo before?
[10:02] <soundray> humblerodent: how are you installing rhapsody?
[10:02] <import> sorry if my abbrevations got on anyones nerves
[10:02] <mwazn1> like I started off with that but it was constantly booting in low graphics mode and set the card driver to generic vesa
[10:02] <Gin> erUSUL, like this? pmount /dev/sdf1 & sleep 3 & nautilus /media/sdf1
[10:02] <smmagic> mwazn1: Also risky, but you could try envy
[10:02] <import> aright im off have a good evening or day morning what ever it may be
[10:03] <niux> smmagic: i can see that the driver for my graphics card is the same as yesterday (vesa).. but the screen is plug and play 800x600 - is that right?
[10:03] <erUSUL> Gin: e.g.  pmount /dev/sdf1 && sleep 3 && nautilus /media/sdf1
[10:03] <mwazn1> envy?
[10:03] <soundray> import: open a terminal and run 'date' :)
[10:03] <erUSUL> Gin: you need double &
[10:03] <smmagic> mwazn1: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[10:03] <import> Gin:)
[10:03] <smmagic> niux: What is your prefered res?
[10:03] <import> sound tray :)
[10:03] <redtux> import: bye ;)
[10:03] <import> bye
[10:03] <redtux> !smile | import
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smile - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <niux> 1440x900, as i was running yesterday. but i cant choose that now
[10:04] <mwazn1> ok I'll try that right now
[10:04] <smmagic> Wow..1440x900 tiny
[10:04] <niux> well..
[10:04] <smmagic> mwazn1: At your own risk
[10:04] <redtux> ubuntu, if you don't like to lol, you at least should learn how to smile... :-D
[10:04] <smmagic> LOL @ redtux
[10:04] <soundray> !botsnack
[10:04] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[10:04] <redtux> ubotu: if you don't like to lol, you at least should learn how to smile... :-D
[10:05] <smmagic> !fixres | niux
[10:05] <ubotu> niux: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:05] <smmagic> niux: Try re-configuring x server with those steps
[10:05] <niux> smmagic: thanks ill try
[10:06] <mwazn1> hey worst that could happen is I have to reinstall right?
[10:06] <smmagic> Go for the fix resolution part, does everything
[10:06] <smmagic> mwazn1: happened to me
[10:06] <mwazn1> I've been down that path so I can do it again lol
[10:07] <smmagic> mwazn1: Then you have nothing to lose :D
[10:07] <mwazn1> ya... just tried that and it said there was an error
[10:07] <smmagic> mwazn1: =.=
[10:07] <jval> sorry if this is a faq, but i can't find a proper answer: ubuntu lts server vs. debian stable - what are the differences? why should i choose ubuntu lts server and not debian stable?
[10:08] <Cyber_Stalker> ~tutorial
[10:08] <Cyber_Stalker> wrong winfdow
[10:08] <soundray> jval: both have their strengths and weaknesses. You will have to test both to find out which suits you best.
[10:08] <smmagic> jval: Why choose debian?
[10:09] <mwazn1> eesh this doesn't sound good: ENVY ERROR: Envy does not recognise your card as compatible with any version of the driver.this might happen because either your card is not supported by the driver or Envy's hardwaredetection failed. You can try the manual installation at your risk.
[10:09] <redtux> jval: who says you should? :-D i guess, the long time support... smmagic: why should you use ubuntu and not debian? :)
[10:09] <soundray> jval: for most people, either will be fine.
[10:09] <computer12345> which is better acidrip or k9copy ?
[10:09] <olskolirc> thanks everyone :-)
[10:09] <olskolirc> im out
[10:10] <smmagic> redtux: Why choose debian instead of ubuntu? why ubuntu instead of debian? Why linux instead of windows? WHY
[10:10] <redtux> art: did it work with k3b? i guess it only works with poweriso...
[10:10] <computer12345> k9copy worked great, just havent tried acidrip yet
[10:10] <jval> basically why = what are the differences
[10:10] <soundray> !best | computer12345
[10:10] <ubotu> computer12345: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[10:11] <computer12345> !
[10:11] <computer12345> ok
[10:11] <redtux> smmagic: well, i know why - but i'm here to help... :) anyway, what kind of differences do you mean, jval ?
[10:11] <ganjist> !calc 1+23
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about calc 1+23 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <mwazn1> o another tidbit that might help: when I go to check the driver it's using it says it's using fglrx and when I click on that it says open source on the bottom. It's grayed out but I dunno if that matters
[10:11] <ganjist> !c meow
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c meow - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <soundray> !msgthebot | ganjist
[10:11] <ubotu> ganjist: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[10:11] <computer12345> !best
[10:11] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[10:12] <computer12345> sorry
[10:12] <Karotte> hi, I need a good graphic card for dual monitor setup which will work with ubuntu. any suggestions?
[10:12] <jval> redtux: i'm asking what kind of differences there are between debian stable and ubuntu lts server?
[10:12] <computer12345> :)
[10:12] <art> redtux, nope;/ k3b dont work with .daa
[10:12] <redtux> art: wget http://poweriso.com/poweriso.tar.gz ; tar -zxvf poweriso.tar.gz ; ./poweriso convert image.daa -o newimage.iso
[10:12] <kruvalig_> http://rafb.net/p/Lr4mt757.html here just one  Ethernet controller  3 Com, what's the matter with onboard?
[10:12] <soundray> Karotte: do you need massive 3D performance?
[10:12] <redtux> art: but be carefull, that software does not seem to be free... ;)
[10:13] <kruvalig_> -erUSUL- http://rafb.net/p/Lr4mt757.html here just one  Ethernet controller  3 Com, what's the matter with onboard?
[10:13] <art> dont worry
[10:13] <Karotte> soundray: no, 3d would be nice but main use is as a work desktop
[10:13] <redtux> jval: ethical? technical? support?
[10:13] <sorto> has anyone seen a good guide to installing ubuntu 7.10 on a windows machine by first resizing the partition? Its the resizing of the partition that Im not clear on..
[10:13] <mwazn1> hmm so has any1 here gotten a radeon HD series graphics card working completely?
[10:14] <jval> redtux: all of those - i'm asking in general
[10:14] <mwazn1> @ sorto, when I did it I just booted from the cd and the first option is to resize the partition
[10:14] <jval> i'm asking what kind of general differences there are
[10:14] <soundray> Karotte: one of the most flexible (and cheap) ways is to get a pair of old ATI Radeon PCI cards (e.g. Mach64). You'll be able to run separate X servers on them, or use xinerama. The open source drivers will work, even in accelerated 3D.
[10:14] <mwazn1> you put in how big you want it to be and it pretty much does it for you
[10:15] <sorto> mwazn1: that was with 7.10? Cause my first option was 'Guided' and I thought it was saying it would just use the whole harddrive.
[10:15] <mwazn1> o might have been the second option
[10:15] <redtux> art: you might try http://www.acetoneteam.org/central.html :)
[10:15] <mwazn1> but it says resize the partition
[10:15] <Karotte> soundray: well it should be a newer card, I don't want to buy something too old
[10:15] <soundray> Karotte: if you haven't got the slots, and/or want to buy new, get NVidia, but avoid the high end.
[10:16] <mwazn1> if it doesn't... then I'm out cause that's the only way I know of
[10:16] <sorto> mwazn1: ok, I'll do it again.. the laptop is just degragmenting (cause I forgot to do that the first time so it was good I aborted anyway).. will take like another hour to finish though.
[10:16] <soundray> Karotte: the medium range cards have two video outputs.
[10:16] <art> redtux, k - let me see...
[10:16] <redtux> jval: i could also tell you my personal opinion... but the Support Channel is the wrong place for this, i guess...
[10:17] <redtux> !server | jval
[10:17] <ubotu> jval: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[10:17] <mwazn1> hey does any1 know if my motherboard has 2 pci-e slots can I have a radeon HD 2600 and an nvidia 7800GT on the two slots or will they do some weird conflicting thing?
[10:17] <mwazn1> cause I know the nvidia card works
[10:17] <mwazn1> I just want the radeon for windows
[10:18] <mwazn1> it's an nforce 4 sli motherboard but I have sli disabled
[10:18] <Pwipwi> mwazn1, I don't see why it wouldn't work
[10:18] <mwazn1> hmm I'll try that then
[10:19] <soundray> mwazn1: there are a few other variables that come into that, like your motherboard. It's worth trying if you have the cards there.
[10:19] <soundray> 2 l8
[10:20] <niux> smmagic: selecting fglrx driver did the job. for an radeon x850xt
[10:20] <bloony> whats the package name of the advanced desktop managager thingy for compiz?
[10:20] <soundray> !dualhead > Karotte, see also ubotu's pm
[10:20] <smmagic> niux: THat good?
[10:20] <sybariten> whats the best way to get a list of installed package nanmes?
[10:20] <sybariten> if i could use a regexp or something to filter, even better
[10:21] <niux> smmagic: the driver? ive allways run using that that, when i used fedora and suse.
[10:21] <jxxt> Is there a way to improve the performance of an ati radeon mobility 9000 card it does 3d render but is very slox glxgears 140fps in fullscreen
[10:21] <soundray> !info gnome-compiz-manager | bloony
[10:21] <ubotu> bloony: gnome-compiz-manager: Compiz Gnome Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.3-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 127 kB, installed size 696 kB
[10:21] <sybariten> i've used apt-show-versions but i'm not sure thats the best list
[10:21] <smmagic> niux: So is it fixed?
[10:21] <jxxt> slow
[10:21] <smmagic> niux: Wish I had a good card, better than this 16mb one
[10:21] <bloony> soundray: thx
[10:21] <soundray> sybariten: perhaps dpkg --get-selections
[10:21] <Karotte> 8!dualhead
[10:21] <Karotte> !dualhead
[10:21] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[10:21] <paolo> I have troubles setting up a RAID1 on Ubuntu 7.10
[10:21] <niux> smmagic: but since ubuntu used the vesa driver and it worked, i though well i dont care.
[10:21] <niux> smmagic: yes fixed
[10:21] <redtux> !utnubu | jval
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about utnubu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <paolo> how can i get help here?
[10:21] <smmagic> niux: Great
[10:22] <lacuce> Hello, can anyone help me with installing XP on virtualbox?
[10:22] <jxxt> ask a question paolo
[10:22] <soundray> !raid > paolo, have a look at ubotu's private message, then ask more specifically.
[10:23] <art> redtux, that aceton was great idea - it work good for now:) hope it will not cause any errors - ty redtux
[10:23] <redtux> jval: have a look at http://wiki.debian.org/Utnubu and http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/debian - further more at http://wiki.debian.org/LetUbuntuReleaseForUs and http://wiki.debian.org/Utnubu/AboutUbuntu (hope these are not too many external links).
[10:24] <redtux> art: well, i just consulted the search engine of my choice... :)
[10:24] <art> ;)
[10:24] <soundray> lacuce: there should be plenty of tutorials on the web. Check those out and ask a more specific question if you get stuck.
[10:25] <los> i would like to install gnome on kubuntu but not the whole desktop how?
[10:25] <lacuce> soundray: I actually managed to create a virtual machine and boot XP image, but it crashes when formatting the partition
[10:26] <soundray> lacuce: have you got enough RAM?
[10:26] <squirrelpimp> hi everybody
[10:26] <squirrelpimp> why is there openoffice.org-* and openoffice.org2-* packages?
[10:26] <squirrelpimp> what are those for, what's the difference between them?
[10:26] <lacuce> soundray: I got 512MB, and allocate 256 for Virtualbox
[10:27] <paolo> !raid > thanks soundray
[10:27] <paolo> I had already followed the instructions on that fakeraid howto guide
[10:28] <paolo> with no success
[10:28] <bloony> soundray: I installed gnome-comiz-manager.. but cant seem to find it anywhere on the panel menus?
[10:28] <soundray> lacuce: that's a bit tight for running two OSs. If you can't upgrade, it may be worth trying from a failsafe session.
[10:28] <paolo> I have a edubuntu 7.10 running now on 3 md synced
[10:28] <redtux> squirrelpimp: OOo ver1 (<< 2.0.1) vs. ver2
[10:29] <paolo> one for /boot (md0) one for swap (md1) and one for / (md2)
[10:29] <soundray> bloony: Alt-F2 gnome-compiz-preferences
[10:29] <lacuce> soundray: I'll give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion.
[10:29] <jxxt> Is there a way to improve the performance of an ati radeon mobility 9000 card it does 3d render but is very slow glxgears 140fps in fullscreen
[10:29] <soundray> lacuce: yw
[10:30] <soundray> jxxt: have you enabled the restricted driver?
[10:30] <squirrelpimp> redtux: just found out you're wrong... it's both ooo2, but the 2-* packages are virtuals for the -* ones
[10:30] <squirrelpimp> sorry for asking
[10:30] <bloony> soundray: hum.. but Ive used another desktop manager earlyer that I liked better.. advanced desktop manager or something.. do you know about it?
[10:31] <soundray> bloony: no. Perhaps ask in #ubuntu-effects
[10:31] <bloony> kk
[10:31] <redtux> squirrelpimp: just checked and you're right - sry for my misinformation. ;)
[10:32] <paolo> but when I unplug one disk to simulate a disk failure
[10:32] <paolo> I can't boot any more
[10:32] <soundray> !enter | paolo
[10:32] <ubotu> paolo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:32] <tony__> !XGL
[10:32] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[10:33] <marc__> join #ubuntu.fr
[10:33] <DownhillGames> is there any network-based KVM (keyboard/VGA/Mouse) stuff that anybody uses to share KVM between two PCs on the lan?
[10:33] <paolo> rather, grub starts, but hangs on read-error on swap-device
[10:33] <jxxt> soundray, I started with the xorg drivers then used the open source driver which crashed my xserver then went to fglrx driver which slowed glxgears to a crawl the fix was supposed to be edit /etc/X11 from ati to fglrx but it crashed my xserver so I am back with the xorg drivers from synaptic
[10:33] <soundray> jxxt: which version of Ubuntu?
[10:34] <jxxt> soundray, Feisty but I will upgrade if it helps
[10:34] <paolo> i get the initramfs prompt and I'm stuck there
[10:35] <soundray> jxxt: not sure if it will. Here's a general hint: fglrx depends on a kernel module. Perhaps that module didn't load, or isn't installed properly. Make sure you have linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) installed.
[10:36] <jxxt> soundray, Most of the howto I find only go back to 9500
[10:36] <DownhillGames> anyone? network KVM software?
[10:36] <redtux> paolo: what linux kernel-version do you have? i do _always_ get the initramfs prompt after a dist-upgrade... (without having unplugged anything!)
[10:36] <jxxt> soundray, howto to check that please
[10:36] <soundray> jxxt: the procedure is the same for different chipsets
[10:37] <soundray> jxxt: apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[10:37] <paolo> redtux: I have a fresh installation of edubuntu 7.10
[10:37] <paolo> redtux: I don't know the Kernel version by heart
[10:37] <redtux> paolo: uname -r
[10:38] <paolo> 2.6.22-14-generic
[10:38] <jxxt> soundray, Yes is installed
[10:39] <soundray> jxxt: now 'lsmod | grep fglrx' to see if the module is loaded
[10:39] <amazen720> I need help
[10:39] <soundray> amazen720: ask a question then
[10:40] <redtux> paolo: same here... :( maybe it's worth to try: sudo mv /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic.bak /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[10:40] <paolo> redtux: and then?
[10:40]  * saltydav slaps jerry507 and knocks his glasses of his face and i don't even notice the glass falling
[10:40] <zeroflag> is there any tool that simplifies mounting cd/dvd-image files? with gnome ui if possible.
[10:41] <amazen720> Some how I loSt my lower caSe "S", fooling around in compiz manager
[10:41] <soundray> !mountiso | zeroflag
[10:41] <ubotu> zeroflag: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[10:41] <jxxt> soundray, nil outcome
[10:42] <redtux> paolo: reboot... :) if you have luck, something you installed changed your initrd.img - if not, i don't know. :(
[10:42] <soundray> jxxt: sorry, no GUI as far as I know
[10:42] <soundray> jxxt: sorry, wrong nick
[10:42] <soundray> zeroflag: sorry, no GUI as far as I know
[10:42] <amazen720> every time put the S key it doeSnt work unleSS I pre the Shift key
[10:42] <redtux> paolo: at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/47768 someone reported that changing the SATA controller worked.
[10:42] <soundray> jxxt: okay, multistep procedure from here:
[10:43] <`LePGeL[BoY]> zeroflag: use your nautilus in mounting your drives
[10:43] <morryer> Hello, where is the TMP php upload DIR located?
[10:43] <soundray> jxxt: backup your current config so you can go back easily: 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup-20071106'
[10:44] <jxxt> soundray, did you mean to post a link???
[10:44] <soundray> jxxt: now make sure fglrx gets loaded on the next boot: 'echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules'
[10:44] <soundray> jxxt: what?
[10:44] <jxxt> soundray, mental block sorry
[10:44] <amazen720> I know thiS Sound Stupid
[10:45] <paolo> redtux: Wait a sec, I'm not sure I've unterdstood right: I have to bak the kernel while I'm in initramfs or while I'm up and running with both disks?
[10:45] <soundray> amazen720: have you restarted X since this happened?
[10:45] <paolo> redtux: I have a fakeraid on the mobo, but I've disabled it on the BIOS
[10:45] <jxxt> soundray, OK
[10:46] <`LePGeL[BoY]> amazen720: i think theres a problem at your keyboard. LOL
[10:46] <soundray> jxxt: finally, 'gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf', find the line Driver "ati" or Driver "vesa" and change it to Driver "fglrx". Save and reboot to test.
[10:46] <paolo> redtux: I've found this thread full of hope: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-438996.html
[10:46] <jval> redtux: thank you for the links - they did help to clear things... or unclear because now i think ubuntu lts and debian stable are just different distros for the same task :) ubuntu and debian are initially developed differently, but when just comparing ubuntu lts and debian stable in end user's point of view, i only see different flavors - not real major differences
[10:46] <redtux> paolo: you cannot boot to your system anymore? is chainloading possible? otherwise you might neet to boot from floppy/cd/usb...
[10:46] <soundray> jxxt: before you go ahead...
[10:46] <buttercups> jxxt, was discussed over at #ati, LoneTech said you need X.org Radeon+DRI r200 driver, or fglrx 8.28, something about dropped support
[10:47] <soundray> jxxt: will you know how to recover if this fails?
[10:47] <apllo> hello everyone
[10:47] <`LePGeL[BoY]> soundray: i guess not!! LOL
[10:47] <TTilus> nautilus cant ssh-connect to box behind nat/portforward, ssh client works fine but nautilus says it cannot open location ssh://terotil@mynatbox:2222/home/terotil
[10:47] <paolo> redtux: I can boot nromally with both disks
[10:47] <paolo> I can't when I unplug one
[10:47] <flavian> ?
[10:47] <redtux> jval: well, i only use debian for servers, so i cannot really say... :) and the server edition is relatively new.
[10:47] <lacuce> soundray: i put another 512MB module and now it's installing. Thanks a lot. You are the man :)
[10:48] <soundray> lacuce: well done
[10:48] <paolo> redtux: either one or the other
[10:48] <flavian> hmm szukam pomocy od osoby piszącej po polsku
[10:48] <soundray> !pl | flavian
[10:48] <ubotu> flavian: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:48] <flavian> oki dzięki
[10:49] <jxxt> soundray, I think I can reconfigure my /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:49] <paolo> redtux: I don't know whether to try to install grub on each disk on block 1 as explained in the link I just posted
[10:49] <soundray> jxxt: either that, or just copy the backup back in recovery mode.
[10:50] <paolo> redtux: but the mdrun is not among the initramfs commands in my case
[10:51] <sorto> Im trying to install ubuntu on my windows laptop, so the first step is to resize the partition so I can dual boot.. but Im on step 4 of 7 of the installation wizard, and its the "Prepare Disk Space" step. My options however dont include 'resize'.. they are Guided - use entire disk, Guided - use the largest continuous free space, or Manual. How come resize isnt there?
[10:51] <jxxt> soundray, Thanks I might check out that comment from butter cup also
[10:51] <TTilus> moved ~/.ssh/known_hosts away and now it works, how can i configure nautilus to do something like ssh client does with HostKeyAlias config option?
[10:51] <soundray> jxxt: definitely
[10:52] <jval> redtux: i got the impression that if the most important thing is stability (no broken package relations), debian stable is perhaps a little bit better because they don't release until all blocker bugs have been fixed - ubuntu is released every 6 months and the server edition matures in time sure, but debian perhaps guarantees better that the tree is stable when the release initially happens - something like that
[10:52] <apllo> i 'm a new beginner of ubuntu and i want to know how can i install a mediaplayer ?
[10:53] <jxxt> Buttercups, Should I look through the #ati logs or alt what time frame is LoneTech in??
[10:53] <redtux> paolo: sorry, don't know then...
[10:53] <soundray> apllo: Ubuntu comes with totem as a mediaplayer.
[10:53] <redtux> jval: yes, i agree.
[10:54] <m3st3ss0> hi there all!
[10:54] <buttercups> jxxt, shows hes on now, always dead over there though, for you info though, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-436212.html
[10:54] <m3st3ss0> i need to ask you a question...
[10:54] <soundray> apllo: Applications-Sound&Video-Movie Player
[10:54] <paolo> Redtux: just answer one more thing: the kernel bak I must do it while the system is running with both disk plugged in?
[10:54] <jxxt> Buttercups, Cheers I will go look
[10:55] <redtux> paolo: yes - restore, not backup...
[10:55] <m3st3ss0> i've got both ubuntu and windows installed on one only hd... and grub automatically boots ubuntu... what do I have to modify to let grub automatically boot windows?
[10:56] <aglet> I'm trying to record a DVD; device is "HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GWA4164B E113 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5", command is "sudo growisofs -dry-run -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cdrw1=sol-10-u4-ga-x86-dvd.iso" & it says ":-( /dev/cdrw1: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0" despite having a blank DVD+R in the drive, any ideas..?
[10:56] <gogeta> :)
[10:56] <redtux> !karma
[10:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about karma - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:56] <paolo> redtux: thank, I'll give it a try. I have to leave now, thanks for your help! have a nice one
[10:56] <m3st3ss0> do i have to set the default grub root device to the partition with windows?
[10:56] <aglet> "eject /dev/cdrw1" pops the right tray open
[10:56] <gogeta> redtux current karma -1
[10:56] <redtux> paolo: ciao :)
[10:57] <soundray> m3st3ss0: you have to edit the "default 0" line in /boot/grub/menu.lst, replacing 0 with the number of your Windows entry in that file.
[10:57] <m3st3ss0> some kind of this? # groot=(hd0,2)
[10:57] <gogeta> >:o
[10:57] <`LePGeL[BoY]> m3st3ss0: u mean ur dual booting? and your boot loader is GRUB? want to change it to windowz boot loader?
[10:57] <soundray> m3st3ss0: don't mess with that please. Are you listening?
[10:58] <m3st3ss0> yes
[10:58] <smoenux> anyone by anychance know why my "printscreen" button wont load the screenshot program? it's set up in the keyboard shortcuts, and if I manually run the program, it works fine, but not when I hit the button ?.?
[10:58] <soundray> `LePGeL[BoY]: no, m3st3ss0 wants to boot Windows using grub
[10:58] <m3st3ss0> i can't found any default 0, soundray...
[10:58] <gogeta> soundray why woukd he wanna do that
[10:58] <soundray> m3st3ss0: did you open the file?
[10:59] <m3st3ss0> sure
[10:59] <m3st3ss0> damn, now i found it
 hmm... does your grub recognized any installer OS?
[10:59] <soundray> gogeta: I don't know, some people still need Windows for some reason
[10:59] <Yancho> is there something more powerful than locate?
[10:59] <m3st3ss0> i know what to edit, now... but don't know how...
 LOL
[10:59] <gogeta> lol
[10:59] <gogeta> man you never used notpad befor
[10:59] <m3st3ss0> how may i know wich number is windows, according to grub?
[11:00] <gogeta> LOL
[11:00] <soundray> m3st3ss0: in a terminal, type 'grep ^title /boot/grub/menu.lst | nl -v 0'. Can you see the Windows entry?
[11:00] <m3st3ss0> [i'm sorry for my english, i'm italian, so, you know...]
[11:00] <gogeta> it goes from 0
[11:00] <gogeta> normaly 3
[11:00] <gogeta> so count entrys 0123
[11:00] <soundray> gogeta: I've got it under control
[11:00] <m3st3ss0> wtf, thanks so much!!!
[11:01] <etherael> Two questions, is there a way to embed web content into the desktop, and also is there a way to modify colour temperature in X?
[11:01] <soundray> m3st3ss0: you're welcome, but don't wtf me next time please.
[11:01] <gogeta> windowz baa
[11:01] <soundray> gogeta: yeah, I know, Mac OS X is so much better
[11:01] <gogeta> :)
[11:01] <m3st3ss0> sorry, it wasn't to you, it was to me...
[11:02]  * soundray ducks, runs and covers
[11:02] <soundray> m3st3ss0: all  right, have fun
[11:02] <gogeta> i got a old g3 with osx :)
[11:02] <soundray> gogeta: must be crawling...
[11:02] <gogeta> auclly no
[11:03] <shan>   /home  =  Windows   D,E ,F  ?
[11:03] <bloony> how can I unpack rar files?'
[11:03] <`LePGeL[BoY]> soundray: you've got good unix background eh!!
[11:03] <gogeta>  /home = /home
[11:03] <soundray> shan: no, there is no equivalent
[11:03] <soundray> `LePGeL[BoY]: I like to think so
[11:04] <`LePGeL[BoY]> soundray: ur good at console commands!!
[11:04] <gogeta> shan drive are normaly /media/cdrom and so on
[11:05] <soundray> `LePGeL[BoY]: I have to be, I launch cluster jobs for a living :)
[11:05] <sjefen6> How do I take a screendump?
[11:05] <`LePGeL[BoY]> soundray: damn!! thats why!!! im still googling for commands though!!!!
[11:05] <shan> Had understood, thanks
[11:06] <gogeta> shan linux uses numbering vs lettering so 2 cdroms would be cdrom0 and cdrom1
 u mean screenshot?
[11:06] <sjefen6> yeah
[11:06] <soundray> sjefen6: Applications-Accessories-Take Screenshot
[11:06] <soundray> `LePGeL[BoY]: see, I can do gnome, too :)
 press the "print screen sysrq" button!!!
[11:07] <sjefen6> tryed print screen, but it did not work in terminal failsafe
 hahaha.. whats your job really dude?
[11:07] <Radio1> Please remember to recycle all of your Micro$oft products to your nearest recycling green receptacles.This is a public service announcement.
 ur in terminal? ur not in desktop? LOL.. u didnt say so!!
[11:08] <gogeta> !windows
[11:08] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[11:08] <soundray> `LePGeL[BoY]: I develop automatic methods for recognizing brain structures in magnetic resonance images
[11:08] <gogeta> LePGeL[BoY errr
[11:08] <gogeta> LePGeL[BoY i work in a factury
[11:08] <gogeta> LOL
[11:08] <sjefen6> no, in failsafe terminal. The one you can choose in the session drop dawn
[11:09] <soundray> sjefen6: you can use xwd. Do a "man xwd" to find out about options
[11:09] <sjefen6> oki
 oh!! u mean MRIs? and CTscans?
[11:09] <gogeta> stop making fell retarted
 im at a band!!
[11:09] <soundray> `LePGeL[BoY]: only MRIs
[11:09] <gogeta> LOL
 who you mean?
[11:10] <gogeta> lol
[11:10] <soundray> sjefen6: 'xwd -root >screendump.xwd'. Use imagemagick or gimp to convert into something useful.
[11:11] <soundray> `LePGeL[BoY]: what do you play?
[11:11] <`LePGeL[BoY]> soundray: the drumkit!
[11:11] <gogeta> heh having issues finding a good job hear plenty of em ut most low pay
[11:11] <Sonderblade> how do you install ubuntu on compaq 6720s? the graphics card doesn't seem to be supported
[11:11] <gogeta> any mid ones whant a hs
[11:12] <soundray> `LePGeL[BoY]: cool. Punk or jazz? :)
 LOL im still a student and im just having some part time joB!! thanx for the mock!!
[11:12] <sjefen6> soundray: but I am unable to use the terminal when i have lounched another application from it
[11:12] <redtux> how can i find out what's wrong when the system falls back to the initramfs prompt after a dist-upgrade? there are many related open bugs, but i see no solutions (and all my old working initrd.img-*.bak's have already been overwritten)...
[11:12] <gogeta> well im smart enough to run heavy indrestel equment but apperntly not smart enough to move boxes around
[11:13] <soundray> sjefen6: in the terminal window, hit Ctrl-Z and 'bg' to send it to the background.
[11:13] <gogeta> isnt that some irnoy
[11:13] <`LePGeL[BoY]> soundray: i actually play most genres but i love alternative!!
[11:13] <Se1> hi everyone. I have a small problem. I don't have the same resolution for the log screen and for my desktop. Does someone know how to have the same resolution ?
[11:14] <SARA> ho mi
[11:14] <SARA> ho ho ho hoh hoh
[11:14] <JimmyDee> ho mi dont play day
[11:14] <JimmyDee> dat
[11:14] <SARA> sex is
[11:15] <`LePGeL[BoY]> gogeta: thanks for this!! Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[11:15] <soundray> `LePGeL[BoY]: can you join me in #ubuntu-offtopic to continue
[11:15] <Russian> hello people
[11:15] <`LePGeL[BoY]> sure soundray
[11:16] <tony__> !vblank
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vblank - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <Russian> How do you check what Video driver version you have installed?
[11:16] <filosofix> Has anybody here has any luck getting xdmcp working with gdm?
[11:16] <zeroflag> great... bin2iso is broken... any idea how to mount a .bin file directly? (it isn't corrupt. it works in daemon-tools/windows)
[11:16] <gogeta> LePGeL[BoY] well register
[11:16] <gogeta> lol
[11:16] <tony__> wtf is vblank?
[11:16] <Weirdweekend_> hello anyone want to explain some basic to a newbie?
[11:16] <Russian> Guys How do you check what Video driver version you have installed? (Through terminal?)
[11:17] <zeroflag> Weirdweekend_: no.
 LOL!!!
[11:17] <comsa> lspci ? fglrxinfo ? maybe russian
[11:17] <Weirdweekend_> i'm trying to understand the difference between gnome & kde
[11:17] <Ackdar> Weirdweekend_, what'cha need?
[11:18] <Ackdar> oh
[11:18] <filosofix> Weirdweekend : taste
[11:18] <Ackdar> have you used both?
[11:18] <Weirdweekend_> some basic understanding of what it is
[11:18] <soundray> !gnome | Weirdweekend_
[11:18] <ubotu> Weirdweekend_: gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[11:18] <Russian> comsa: tnx I check it out
[11:18] <Ackdar> To fully understand the difference, you'll need to experience both
[11:18] <soundray> !kde | Weirdweekend_
[11:18] <ubotu> Weirdweekend_: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gusty and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[11:19] <Russian> ! Video Driver
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video driver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <Weirdweekend_> I can have both on the same system?
[11:19] <Ackdar> !drivers
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <Ackdar> hrm
[11:19] <Pyrobyte> Weirdweekend_: yes
[11:19] <redtux> Russian: you mean something like dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-intel ?
[11:19] <soundray> Weirdweekend_: yes, you choose at login time which you want to use for the session
[11:20] <Russian> redtux: I just want to check what Video driver I currently have installed, because I want to follow a guide for compiz, I am using Ati Radeon 9600 XT
[11:20] <Ackdar> I've folloed all the instructions in the WiFi troubleshooting, and it seems nobody is having my problem
[11:20] <Weirdweekend_> cool I'll give it a go. So to make sure I get this - they both do the graphical stuff?
[11:20] <bloony> how do I rename a folder?
[11:20] <Arsanerit> mv a b
[11:21] <bloony> k
[11:21] <redtux> Russian: ubuntu usually installs _all_ (freely) available video drivers - you want to know, which one you are currently using?
[11:21] <Russian> yeo
[11:21] <Russian> redtux: yes please
[11:21] <soundray> Weirdweekend_: they are both "desktop environments"
[11:22] <Russian> redtux: I am following this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=588428
[11:22] <Russian> redtux: and I am here:  First install 8.42 and make sure it is working.
[11:22] <redtux> Russian: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf -> ignore kdb, mouse, wacom...
[11:22] <Russian> so I want to check if its already installed ornot
[11:22] <buttercups> Russian, then fglrxinfo, what cosma suggested to you
[11:22] <sysop> anyone know of a good DVD authoring tool, that will do custom menu's?
[11:22] <Weirdweekend_> ok thank you soundray. so is beyrl something that fits on top of gnome or KDE
[11:23] <redtux> Russian: dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-ati ;)
[11:23] <Russian> redtux: I want to install the newest driver
[11:24] <Russian> redtux: Check pm please, I have pasted results
[11:24] <comsa> ther is a good page for that hang on a mo
[11:24] <redtux> Russian: oh, you're using fglrx? that's the non-free driver from ati...
[11:24] <soundray> !beryl | Weirdweekend_:
[11:24] <ubotu> Weirdweekend_:: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[11:24] <soundray> !compiz | Weirdweekend_:
[11:25] <redtux> Russian: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ is for pasting... ;)
[11:25] <ubotu> Weirdweekend_:: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[11:25] <Russian> redtux: tnx can you guide me trough this please?
[11:25] <redtux> Russian: i'm trying... ;)
[11:26] <Russian> redtux: I am trying to follow this guide :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=588428
[11:26] <Russian> redtux: If you are using the gutsy repo version of compiz, it will not work by default with any fglrx driver, including the newly released 8.42., Which is true
[11:26] <redtux> Russian: type "dpkg -l xorg-driver-fglrx"
[11:26] <Weirdweekend_> understood but what is it & how does it relate to gnome or kde?
[11:27] <Russian> redtux: result: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43526/
[11:27] <sysop> Is there a good DVD authoring tool, that will do custom menu's?
[11:27] <SpinBoson> redtux: Is the new fglrx driver out yet? I had serious issues with the last one trying to set up a dual-head
[11:28] <redtux> SpinBoson: i'm not using non-free software, sorry - dunno... ;) just told Russian how to check the version of his driver.
[11:28] <soundray> Weirdweekend_: it's just for gnome I think. I don't know anything about effects in KDE though.
[11:28] <SpinBoson> redtux: thanks.
[11:28] <redtux> Russian: "apt-cache search fglrx" is your friend... maybe you need to build from source.
[11:29] <Turgon> Hello. After quite some searching and trying, I am beginning to suspect that I can't synchronize my nokia N70 with Evolution because Ubuntu (7.10) uses a quite old version of the "opensync" package. Would it be proper to request an upgrade at Lauchpad, with "Wishlist" importance? I ask first here so I don't add any needless clutter there). Thanks for your time and patience.
[11:29] <Russian> redtux: can I follow this guide? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=575843
[11:29] <flavian> ?
[11:30] <redtux> Russian: you must follow http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=588383 first. sorry, gonna have lunch now...
[11:31] <sysop> anyone know of a good DVD authoring tool, that will do custom menu's?
[11:31] <Russian> redtux: ty, one more question what GF would you recommend me instead of my ATI Radeon 9600xT?
[11:31] <TTilus> nautilus cant ssh-connect to box behind nat/portforward, ssh client works fine but nautilus says it cannot open location ssh://terotil@mynatbox:2222/home/terotil, looks like this is because host key check fails, because if i move ~/.ssh/known_hosts away it asks to save host key and works, ergo: how can i configure nautilus to do something like ssh client does with HostKeyAlias config option?
[11:32] <Draculim> Weirdweekend_: it is neccesary to search information in google ,there is all
[11:33] <the-killer> Hello all howcan i upgrade ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
[11:33] <jorgenpt> When I'm in the Keyboard Shortcuts window of Gnome, and I try to bind something to Super+Whatever - as soon as I press Super it fills the Shortcut field with "Super L". What's wrong?
[11:33] <soundray> !upgrade > the-killer, read ubotu's private message please
[11:34] <the-killer> i used update manager But it still break connection Probleme
 request for the installer CD and do clean install!!
[11:36] <soundray> the-killer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades  -- perhaps the servers method or the alternate CD method will work.
[11:37] <the-killer> soundray: i use them both
[11:37] <the-killer> they say connexion probleme after praparing upgrade
[11:37] <comsa> how paste in bin
[11:38] <comsa> russian try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:38] <soundray> the-killer: perhaps you best do a fresh install then, as `LePGeL[BoY] suggests
[11:39] <soundray> comsa: have you opened the pastebin in your browser?
[11:39] <Radio1> soundray: is there such a thing as a terminal command (list).
[11:39] <`LePGeL[BoY]> ive tried the online upgrade but poor for me ive got low connection.. so i requested for the CD.. hehehhe
[11:39] <comsa> its ok
[11:39] <soundray> Radio1: open a terminal and hit the Tab key twice.
[11:39] <gilster> need help with ATI X300 and dual monitor support.
[11:40] <Radio1> k/t/y.
[11:40] <soundray> Radio1: also, look at ubotu's pm:
[11:40] <soundray> !cli > Radio1
[11:40] <Radio1> k
[11:40] <Russian> Guys when executing this code: sudo debconf libstdc++5 linux-headers-generic    I get following error: Can't exec "libstdc++5": No such file or directory at /usr/share/perl/5.8/IPC/Open3.pm line 168.
[11:40] <Russian> Can anyone help?
[11:40] <sysop> anyone know how to make custom DVD menu's on a DVD???
[11:40] <comsa> russian must have left had to work
[11:40] <Russian> comsa: sorry?
[11:41] <soundray> Russian: that's not a syntax I recognize. What are you trying to do?
[11:41]  * Foxdie shuffles closer to Offroader
[11:41] <Russian> soundray: I am trying to follow this guide : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=575843
[11:41] <samad909> ) I am having problems with gutsy installation, I am on windows and trying to install linux on some unallocated space and the install goes well but when it reaches configuring apt and after it asks for the http proxy and once the input is given, it stops responding...I tried cd integrity check and tried installing a couple of times but with no luck..any ideas?
[11:41] <Foxdie> hi :) take it you like your mud?
[11:42] <samad909> oh and btw I am using ubuntu-alternate as the livecd does not work with my system
[11:42] <ikonia> samad909: how are you trying to install from windows
[11:42] <sjovan> samad909: what happens when you try to use the normal cd?
[11:43] <samad909> ikonia: I meant right now on windows but boot off the cd and install
[11:43] <sysop> samad909: if the cd does not work, you are going to have problems, my suggestion... upgrrade your hardware so the CD install works :-)
[11:43] <soundray> Russian: I see
[11:43] <samad909> sjovan: livecd wont run, dont know why, specs -2.4ghz / 1.5gb ram /256mb vga nvidia
[11:43] <Russian> soundray: Any help?
[11:43] <samad909> sysop: already good hardware
[11:43] <ikonia> sysop thats a nonsense statment - please don't say that
[11:44] <soundray> Russian: the \ on the line before means that the line continues.
[11:44] <sjovan> samad909: try to download the 7.04 iso and install that and then just upgrade to 7.10. i know of many people that have different issues with the 7.10 cd
[11:44] <ikonia> samad909 ignore that - your hardware could be fine
[11:44] <Russian> soundray: What do you mean?
[11:44] <sysop> samad909: all of you hardware is good, including the CD/DVD drive, cool, then just do the live CD install!
[11:44] <samad909> sjovan: any other option?
[11:44] <samad909> ikonia: will do, any option?
[11:44] <Russian> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43528/
[11:44] <ikonia> samad909: could you explain the problems with the live cd install
[11:45] <samad909> sysop: wont help, livecds dont work with my system, tried a lot of them
[11:45] <ikonia> sysop he's just said he can't use the live cd, stop trolling him
[11:45] <sjovan> samad909: could be, but why not just do it the easy way insted of strugeling with the 7.10 cd?
[11:45] <samad909> ikonia: the live session wont load
[11:45] <samad909> ikonia: the cd loads quarter way and then stops responding
[11:45] <ikonia> samad909 samad909 at what point does it work / not work
[11:46] <ikonia> samad909 so you get teh ubuntu boot splash with the moving bar and then it stops, or does it proress beyond that
[11:46] <Pyrobyte> i had the same problam as samad909, alternate cd did the job
[11:46] <soundray> Russian: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43529/
[11:46] <samad909> ikona: yes
[11:46] <sysop> samad909: if your hardware is good the CD should be no problem, if not you NEED to fix the hardware... it may be possible to install with broken hardware, but not recommended!
[11:46] <samad909> Pyrobyte: i tried the alternative too but it gets stuck at apt conf
[11:46] <ikonia> sysop thats nosense
[11:46] <Foxdie> Offroader: do you like 4x4s?
[11:46] <samad909> sysop: nothing is broken..
[11:46] <ikonia> samad909 lets work through this one step at at a time.
[11:46] <samad909> ikonia: ok..
[11:47] <ikonia> samad909: does it stop on the ubuntu logo while loading ?
[11:47] <Russian> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43530/
[11:47] <soundray> Russian: that step has been successful now.
[11:47] <samad909> ikonia: yes at the part where the ubuntu logo and the progress bar is
[11:47] <sysop> ikonia/samad909: well then WHY doesn't the CD work?
[11:47] <sjovan> samad909: i everything els fail, try the 7.04 iso. that's my tip
[11:47] <samad909> sysop: I have no idea!
[11:47] <Russian> soundray: what is wrong with this then? debconf libstdc++5 linux-headers-generic
[11:47] <samad909> sjovan: thanks
[11:47] <sysop> samad909: did you try the CD?
[11:48] <samad909> sysop: yes
[11:48] <sjovan> you can upgrade in X to the 7.10 system
[11:48] <ikonia> sysop it may fail to detect something, his video card may not be detected etc etc, but I'm going to work that through with him rather than tell him his hardwre is roke
[11:48] <Russian> soundray: or it does not matter?
[11:48] <soundray> Russian: it's not supposed to be entered. It's just a continuation of the previous line
[11:48] <Russian> aah oke
[11:48] <dgjones> sysop, just because a livecd doesn't work, doesn't mean that there's problems, I have a laptop that works prefectly as long as the alternative cd is used to install, it just won't work with the livecd because of the video drivers needed
[11:48] <soundray> Russian: in other words: you've done it.
[11:48] <sysop> samad909: so, if you tried the CD, it must of given you an error, what was it?
[11:48] <Russian> soundray: would you recommend me to paste all lines at once, as stated, or 1 by 1 (what I was doing)
[11:48] <ikonia> sysop he said it hangs on the kernel boot pogress bar
[11:48] <Russian> soundray: when following this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=575843
[11:49] <samad909> sysop: desktop cd: gets stuck at ubuntu progress bar load point...alternate cd: gets stuck at apt conf 40%
[11:49] <soundray> Russian: you've now completed Step 3. Continue with Step 4.
[11:49] <Foxdie> car dance party moscow?
[11:49] <jindal> hi, I am having troubles with wifi (Broadcom chipset) after installing Gutsy(upgrade from Feisty and a new install) ... everything seems fine .. bcm43xx-fwcutter is there .. iwlist eth1 scan works and am able to connect via wifi-radar (as shown by syslogs and access point logs) BUT am unable to connect to anyone not even a ping .. any ideas?
[11:49] <samad909> ikonia: what should I do?
[11:49] <Russian> soundray: thank you for your help
[11:49] <sysop> samad909: well, did you try a VGA install, it might be a video issue
[11:49] <soundray> Russian: yw
[11:50] <samad909> sysop: you mean safe graphics mode?
[11:51] <sysop> sammad909: no, with the VGA mod on lo res, Safe Graphics did NOT work 4 me either
[11:51] <samad909> sysop: how can i set that?
[11:51] <samad909> sysop: what is the boot option?
[11:51] <Russian> soundray: one more question do I need to paste the lines mentioned in "code" all togheter, or 1 by 1?
[11:52] <ikonia> sysop: what are you talking about, vga mode on low res ?
[11:52] <sysop> sammad909: OK when you boot, there as an option on the bottom called VGA I think its F4, select it and select the smallest resolution
[11:53] <ikonia> sysop: he's getting beyond that, he's getting the boto splash
[11:53] <ikonia> boot
[11:53] <sysop> ikonia: its what I had to do to install
[11:53] <ikonia> oh - so now your telling me it may not be his hardware
[11:53] <soundray> Russian: one by one is okay. Just when a line and in a backslash (\), it means that the next line is actually part of this line, so you have to combine the two in one command.
[11:53] <ikonia> sysop: your just offering random comments rather than working it through
[11:53] <soundray> Russian: does that make sense?
[11:53] <Russian> soundrayL thank you
[11:53] <Russian> soundray: yes it does
[11:53] <samad909> what should I do?
[11:54] <soundray> samad909: stick with ikonia and ignore sysop :)
[11:54] <symtab> hello
[11:54] <sysop> ikonia: no, I am working him thorugh a CLEAN install rather then giving him patches to the symtoms of his problem
[11:54] <symtab> any ideas why i dont have imagerotate in php?
[11:54] <symtab> PHP Fatal error:  Call to undefined function imagerotate()
[11:54] <samad909> ikonia: help me through this
[11:54] <samad909> soundray: will do ;)
[11:54] <symtab> and i have gd installed for sure
[11:54] <i055756> ddddd
[11:55] <soundray> sysop: please hold back with your advice until ikonia gives up.
[11:55] <sysop> samad909: ok, but I'll bet you are in for a long long process
[11:55] <jindal> hey any wifi geeks around? please see my query above :-)
[11:55] <sysop> soundray: OKie Dokie
[11:55] <ikonia> samad909: I'll let sysop continue with random debugging, as he's right, I would take you through a long process of debugging
[11:55] <samad909> sysop: I would like to learn the long process, just incase i would have to install for a friend ;) no offense
[11:55] <ikonia> sysop: please continue - I'll dorp out
[11:55]  * neozen yawns
[11:55] <neozen> its early
[11:55] <samad909> hm
[11:56] <sysop> samad909: hey its your time
[11:56] <messi[ah]> i have a question: installed 7.10 - downloaded the kernel sources and patched my kernel with a patch, now i want to install it. but the problem is that i have already the same kernel version installed - how can i install my new patched kernel without complaining?
[11:56] <sysop> anyone know of a good DVD authoring tool, that will do custom menu's?
[11:56] <samad909> could any one just help me lol
[11:56] <Radio1> phisher price.
[11:57] <Scypher> hello?
[11:57] <presidentti> hi
[11:57] <Scypher> what's there to do on linux?
[11:57] <neozen> .................
[11:57] <neozen> you name it
[11:57] <ttolss> -0-
[11:57] <samad909> Scypher: what's that you are looking for?
[11:57] <zetheroo> do Palm PDA's work well and easily in Ubuntu?
[11:57] <sysop> Scyphr: everything you can do on windows, pluss it actualy works lol
[11:57] <Scypher> codecs
[11:57] <soundray> !info qdvdauthor | sysop
[11:57] <ubotu> sysop: qdvdauthor: GUI frontend for dvdauthor and other related tools. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.0~rc1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 3694 kB, installed size 7620 kB
[11:57] <samad909> Scypher: piece of cake
[11:58] <ttolss> !info soundray
[11:58] <ubotu> Package soundray does not exist in gutsy
[11:58] <samad909> Scypher: just play a movie and if you dont have the codecs then it automatically finds and installs them with your permission
[11:58] <ttolss> :)
[11:58] <Scypher> sy
[11:58] <Scypher> damn
[11:58] <elkbuntu> sysop, most problems do not require a reinstall. please make sure you know what the issue is before recommending a reinstall. a boot option will still need passing no matter what. a clean install will just waste the time.
[11:58] <Scypher> gaim nearly crashed
[11:59] <Scypher> samad909 are you sure?
[11:59] <samad909> Scypher: yes
[11:59] <samad909> Scypher: I am sure of ubuntu
[11:59] <Scypher> I can't play movies direct off the network share
[11:59] <Scypher> i need to mount it?
[11:59] <Scypher> plus, i can't play 3d games on linux
[11:59] <Scypher> doesnt have direct 10 :D
[11:59] <neozen> Scypher: not gaim anymore.... is pidgin
[12:00] <samad909> well games
[12:00] <neozen> Scypher: and of course there is no directx ..... that's a microsoft beastie
[12:00] <samad909> are compatible via wine...check the wine app database for a specific app's rating
[12:00] <neozen> Scypher: people don't generally come to linux looking for games
[12:00] <samad909> Scypher: there is always openGL
[12:01] <Scypher> why do they look for?
[12:01] <neozen> Scypher: though there are quite a few ways to get them running anyway
[12:01] <neozen> Scypher: stability
[12:01] <neozen> Scypher: sanity
[12:01] <ikonia> samad909: do you want to try to walk through your install issue
[12:01] <samad909> ikonia: sure
[12:01] <sysop> elkbutntu: well, I was in the same postion, did the VGA install to get past the instalation process, and all was well.... Hummm, you are right I know nothing... lol!
[12:01] <Scypher> well, i can get stability and sanity without a computer :D
[12:01] <chriswaterguy> Hi - I just installed wifi-radar on my laptop, and it's not working - it says it's connected to "None", and gives an IP address. I click disconnect but nothing happens. Would love some help on this, thanks!
[12:01] <samad909> Scypher: stability with windows was what we were competing to :p
[12:02] <neozen> chriswaterguy: what kind of nic in the beast?
[12:02] <sysop> soundray: thanks man I will check it out!
[12:02] <ikonia> samad909: lets cover the basics, we know it hangs on the boot splash for you, can you tell me what video card you've got, as thats the most common cause of hang
[12:02] <chriswaterguy> neozen: sorry, I'm a semi-newbie. nic = card?
[12:02] <Crozar> is HP tc4400 laptop touchscreen compatible with UbuntU ? fully ? i mean touch screen calibration and detecting things soundcard ect..
[12:02] <samad909> ikonia: geforce fx 5500
[12:02] <neozen> chriswaterguy: nic = network interface card (yes)
[12:03] <ikonia> samad909 ok - so a reasonable old nvidia - that shouldn't be a problem. How much ram do you have ?
[12:03] <neozen> chriswaterguy: specifically the network card...
[12:03] <samad909> ikonia: 1.5gb
[12:03] <ikonia> samad909: again - more than enough, so thats a good start.
[12:03] <samad909> ikonia: ok...what is next?
[12:03] <neozen> Crozar: if wacom built the beast.... there is hope
[12:03] <chriswaterguy> neozen: looking... (it's a thinkpad R60)
[12:04] <ikonia> samad909: ok the first thing we need to check - which I apologies as it is tedious is 1.) The CD - can you run the cd self check to make sure the actual cd is working fine please. Its long and drawn out, I appriciate
[12:04] <Scypher> i always like linux, but i can't find anything to do on it since i play game, so i tend to switch back to windows... plus linux doesnt seem to have whole lot of codecs
[12:04] <neozen> chriswaterguy: nice
[12:04] <neozen> chriswaterguy: that's what I've got
[12:04] <Scypher> codecs for mkv, mp1-4 , mov
[12:04] <Jefis> Hello, i'm trying to build "omnibook" kernel module, i compiled it, installed it, but i fail to load it
[12:04] <Crozar> because my friend want to trade it with my toshiba laptop
[12:04] <chriswaterguy> neozen: cool!
[12:04] <Jefis> kernel reports that it can't find suck a module
[12:04] <samad909> ikonia: I already did the cd - integrity check..
[12:04] <Jefis> any ideas how to fix?
[12:04] <neozen> chriswaterguy: if it is indeed an r60, should have an intel pro wireless 3945abg
[12:04] <ikonia> samad909 ok - thats one good step
[12:04] <samad909> ikonia: both the cds have been checked
[12:04] <chriswaterguy> k
[12:04] <neozen> chriswaterguy: which os are you running?
[12:04] <Crozar> my laptop is 17 inch with geforce FX and 1gig ram and 40GB harddisk sata 7200 rpm 2.4ghz
[12:05] <neozen> chriswaterguy: *version
[12:05] <ikonia> samad909 1 momen,t sorry, my phone is ringning
[12:05] <chriswaterguy> neozen: just installed Ubuntu 7.10. Wifi radar was running fine on Xubuntu.
[12:05] <samad909> ikonia: np
[12:05] <neozen> chriswaterguy: ;p
[12:05] <Crozar> the hp is 2.4 with 2 GIG ram and 256mb card intel mobile and touch screen with fingerprint also neozen
[12:05] <Crozar> is it a nice trade?
[12:05] <chriswaterguy> neozen: thought to be honest, "fine" wasn't that impressive, but at least it worked. If there were another wifi program, I'd try it.
[12:05] <neozen> chriswaterguy: can network manager find an access point?
[12:05] <Crozar> he wants gaming i want entertainment :D
[12:06] <chriswaterguy> neozen: not sure what you mean, but wifi-radar shows the two wifi networks I can (normally) log into here
[12:06] <Scypher> samad909: which program do you use to play mkv files?
[12:06] <samad909> Scypher: vlc
[12:06] <Crozar> if touch screen works with ubuntu and compiz it will be something very very good and thats good if they compiz focus on touch screen bindings
[12:06] <akujin> Scypher, linux is just another way of doing the same things that you do in windows. they both have their ups and downs, People all have their own reasons for choosing one over the other, but a common reason for linux users is it's openness. You can find out for yourself every tiny little detail in the system. In windows it's hidden to the user.
[12:06] <ikonia> samad909: sorry about that. Ok so you've checked the cd which is great and your livecd hangs but the alternativ cd boots but hangs at install points
[12:07] <samad909> Scypher: that is what I use, you can use the default too
[12:07] <ikonia> samad909: ughh, really sorry, phone again, 2 minutes
[12:07] <samad909> ikonia: yes, np
[12:07] <neozen> ok.... the hell happened to ibm-acpi in gutsy?
[12:07] <chriswaterguy> neozen: should have said: Wifi radar was running fine on Xubuntu 7.04.
[12:07] <neozen> that went away?
[12:07] <neozen> chriswaterguy: look in your system tray in ubuntu
[12:08] <samad909> ikonia: desktop: hangs at boot load screen alt: hangs after everything is installed and when it goes to apt configure, after asking for the HTTP proxy it hangs
[12:08] <Scypher> samad909: have you got all the codecs working with vlc?
[12:08] <chriswaterguy> neozen: bottom, top...?
[12:08]  * neozen ponders
[12:08] <samad909> Scypher: well mkv was the only file i play with vlc, rest with the default players
[12:08] <neozen> chriswaterguy: by default, top right I believe
[12:08] <neozen> chriswaterguy: could be wrong though...
[12:09] <chriswaterguy> neozen: all default at the moment. i've more experience with Windows...
[12:09] <samad909> played*
[12:09] <chriswaterguy> neozen: what am i looking for?
[12:09] <hana> je tu čech
[12:09] <neozen> chriswaterguy: I see...
[12:09] <chriswaterguy> neozen: ah
[12:09] <neozen> chriswaterguy: got it?
[12:09] <liddan> How do I stop ubuntu from creating new .trash folders whenever I delete something? And how do I set it up so that when i hit delete the file is removed and not moved to trash?
[12:10] <chriswaterguy> neozen: damn that's snazzy!
[12:10] <chriswaterguy> neozen: is that separate from wifi-radar?
[12:10] <neozen> chriswaterguy: yes
[12:10] <chriswaterguy> neozen: yeah... thanks!
[12:10] <neozen> chriswaterguy: that's a front end to network manager
[12:10] <neozen> chriswaterguy: and completely installable in xubuntu
[12:10] <chriswaterguy> neozen: wow, excellent. i didn't like wifi-manager that much.
[12:10] <neozen> chriswaterguy: (what I'm currently using to do wireless atm)
[12:11] <bullgard4> Welche Funktion hat das geladene Modul 'serio_raw' (Raw serio driver')?
[12:11] <samad909> btw general question: adsl or wimax?
[12:11] <chriswaterguy> neozen: i had quite a few reasons for moving from xubuntu... if i were much much more experienced, I might have stuck with it
[12:12] <chriswaterguy> neozen: i'm going to unplug. if i get disconnected... then I'll probably be back for more help :D
[12:12] <bullgard4> What is the function of the loaded module 'serio_raw' (Raw serio driver'?
[12:12] <chazco> hi... anyone here able to help me fix a problem with the internet following installing 7.10? One page doesnt work (it starts to load, then goes very slowly and stalls, but no errors)... the page works on 7.04, on another PC with the same Firefox + Settings. All other webpages appear to work. Its not ipv6 (disabled it, no change)... :)
[12:12] <samad909> could not find any decent article on google about that....anyone know which is better adsl or wimax?
[12:12] <RedB14> hi, how can i make a file sys check?
[12:12] <RedB14> to repaire the file errors
[12:12] <samad909> RedB14: man fsck
[12:13] <samad909> g2g
[12:13] <samad909> lightning
[12:13] <bloon1> where do I setup so I have more desktops when Im not using compiz?
[12:13] <Wilfly> Hello, someone has managed to work with the pinacle 700 pci?
[12:13] <billybob> wimax is wireless dsl is not
[12:13] <chriswaterguy> neozen: woo-hoo! thanks heaps!
[12:13] <billybob> typicaly wireless internet sucks by comparrison
[12:13] <chriswaterguy> neozen: I'm naked! Oops, I mean wireless!
[12:13] <ttolss> chazco: what a u taking about @.,#
[12:14] <bullgard4> RedB14: fsck is used to check and optionally repair one or more Linux file systems.
[12:14] <neozen> chriswaterguy: you go have fun now...
[12:14] <chriswaterguy> neozen: i will... but will prob have more q's soon...
[12:16] <Wilfly> Hello, someone has managed to work with the pinacle 700 pci?
[12:17] <RedB14> bullgard4 what's the option that make a total scan of ubuntu file sys and repaire the errors
[12:17] <RedB14> coz i have some problems with the usplash_write on the boot process
[12:18] <user_> co_kuLiah
[12:19] <bullgard4> RedB14: It is advisable that you read through man fsck. Then proceed asking.
[12:19] <buttercups> RedB14, sudo touch /forcefsck, will force a file check on next reboot
[12:20] <ameeen> can I use microsoft word on ubuntu ?
[12:20] <RedB14> bullgard4 ok i'll the next time :)
[12:21] <RedB14> buttercups can i execut the forcefsk now ?
[12:21] <seravitae> hi there, anyone know where the options are for the login screen?
[12:21] <Hitman> Hi all
[12:21] <neozen> so all did something get messed up when ibm_acpi changed its name?
[12:21] <buttercups> RedB14, , never on a mounted drive, no
[12:21] <neozen> anyone else get thinkpad_acpi loaded successfully?
[12:22] <buttercups> RedB14, well ya that command execute now
[12:23] <jaym> anyone resolve the fact that gutsy with a bcm43xx wireless card only blazes along at 24mbps
[12:23] <neozen> lol....
[12:24] <neozen> at least it now blazes
[12:24] <jaym> :)
[12:24] <neozen> it used to just sit there occasionally taking the piss
[12:24] <jaym> this is true
[12:24]  * neozen grins
[12:25] <SEppl> g
[12:25] <liddan> How do I disable the trash completly?
[12:25] <jaym> sooooo slow but i otta deal with it
[12:25] <stefg> ameeen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrossOver
[12:26] <SARA> Marian4e
[12:26] <SARA> ej koja si ti
[12:26] <bullgard4> liddan: This is not advisable.
[12:26] <SARA> ?
[12:27] <liddan> bullgard4, why?
[12:27]  * jaym hums jeopardy theme while waiting for gutsy to blaze along
[12:28] <bullgard4> liddan: You will regret that one moment in your Linux life very much because you'll need some erased files.
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