[18:55] <bekks> netchip: You have to configure the service to bind to that specific servoice.
[18:56] <Galaxor> escott: nomodeset did not help.  Y'know what else is weird is that when I boot using uefi, I don't get the purple screen or the graphical bootup.  I get standard black-and-white grub.  Is that supposed to happen?
[18:56] <escott> Galaxor, sounds reasonable
[18:56] <the_incognito> t
[18:57] <aaamourao> escott: sorry, I am no understanding. What should I do?
[18:59] <arun> hey guys
[18:59] <arun> my bluetooth is not working
[18:59] <bluesnow> Hi, I'm getting this error http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2107004 on Ubuntu 12.04 and I'm not sure how to fix it.
[19:00] <xirtoth> do i need specific drivers for radeon or is it there by default?
[19:00] <Galaxor> escott: Mkay.  Anything else I should try?  I've tried removing quiet nosplash, I tried acpi_osi=...
[19:00] <arun> yes
[19:01] <arun> its defaulti
[19:01] <dr_willis> xirtoth:  radeon is a bit vague. you mean your specific chipset is a radeon? or the radeon drivers are needed for your chipset?
[19:01] <dr_willis> the term gets a little overused.
[19:02] <arun> hey dr_will help me yaar
[19:02] <aaamourao> escott: here is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1577596/
[19:02] <arun> my bluetooth is not working
[19:02] <dr_willis> i have 4 bluetooth dongles.. only 1 wworks in linux
[19:02] <dr_willis> ;)
[19:03] <arun> hey i have multiboot in 7 and linux
[19:03] <escott> aaamourao, so you have a gpt disk with an efi partition and a grub_bios partition
[19:03] <escott> it would be strange to have windows 7 booting efi but its not unheard of
[19:03] <arun> so will my bluetooth work properly
[19:03] <dr_willis> arun:  may depend on the exact chipset its useing.
[19:04] <arun> hey how to remove pair from bluetooth
[19:04] <arun> in my ubuntu ?
[19:06] <arun> hey guys r u there'
[19:06] <arun> hey guys r u there?
[19:07] <dr_willis> if it waswent working.. how did you pair it?
[19:07] <aaamourao> escott: yeah, I think so hahaha Did you recognize some mistake that I committed?
[19:08] <arun> it was working before but not now
[19:10] <escott> aaamourao, so grub_bios is an indication that ubuntu installed grub for a bios boot
[19:10] <escott> aaamourao, i would figure out how the system is currently booting windows. presumably it is efi mode in which case you need to install grub-efi
[19:11] <aaamourao> ok
[19:11] <aaamourao> escott: ok, should I "sudo apt-get install grub-efi"?
[19:12] <escott> aaamourao, within a chroot sure
[19:12] <aaamourao> okey, scott.. I install it and run "grub-efi"?
[19:12] <arun> hey
[19:12] <arun> will
[19:12] <aaamourao> escott:  okey, scott.. I install it and run "grub-efi"? after change root, of course
[19:13] <mojtaba> Hi
[19:14] <arun> help me
[19:14] <arun> hey Mr. Will
[19:14] <mojtaba> Could you please let me know what is the equivalent download manager in ubuntu?
[19:14] <bekks> mojtaba: equivalent to what?
[19:15] <tanveer> is this ubuntu ?
[19:15] <tanveer> I need help
[19:15] <mojtaba> I am pretty new to linux and in windows era I used to use IDM.
[19:15] <tanveer> as soon as possible
[19:15] <craigbass1976> I've got 12.04 on /dev/sda2, and 12.10 /dev/sdd5  but grub won't recognize the 12.10 install. I haven't had to mess with grub since I could directly edit menu.lst or grub.conf.  What's the best way to make grub see the install.
[19:15] <DJones> tanveer: Yes it is the ubuntu support channel
[19:15] <mojtaba> bekks: download manager
[19:15] <tanveer> DJones:  HI I want to Install Teamviewer but its not working
[19:15] <bekks> mojtaba: You have to install one, if you need one.
[19:15] <tanveer> DJones:  i just installed fresh Ubuntu 12.10
[19:15] <tanveer> DJones:  and i also have no sound
[19:15] <mojtaba> bekks: Do you know which one is better?
[19:16] <bekks> !best | mojtaba
[19:16] <tanveer> I also couldnt get chrome to work so i installed chromium
[19:16] <minoo> hi
[19:16] <mojtaba> !best | mojtaba
[19:16] <DJones> tanveer: Just ask the channel in general, for the sound issue, you'll need to give details of your sound hardware, what you've done to try getting it working, and what actually happens
[19:17] <PhatTony> Whats the cli to find a program
[19:17] <PhatTony> ?
[19:17] <dr_willis> find in what way?
[19:17] <tanveer> ok DJones  can u help me install Teamviewer??
[19:17] <tanveer> il do sound after
[19:17] <minoo> is there a way to determine which i386 packages are needed for run a specific binary on my amd64 precise workstation?
[19:17] <arun> hey Dr. WIll help me
[19:17] <escott> minoo, ldd
[19:17] <arun> man
[19:17] <DJones> tanveer: Sorry, its not something I've used
[19:17] <dr_willis> arun:  with?
[19:17] <minoo> i dont want to install the complete ia32-libs
[19:17] <tanveer> DJones:  its in the software center but i have no luck installing it
[19:18] <PhatTony> I want to configure iftop but I can't seem to locate it
[19:18] <dr_willis> PhatTony:  start with man iftop
[19:18] <lauratika> after reboot ubuntu wont remember display settings always... anyone knows what can be the issue?
[19:18] <arun> oh at last it worked
[19:18] <mojtaba> I am looking for something equal to IDM in ubuntu
[19:19] <bekks> mojtaba: I guess no one in here ever saw IDM.
[19:19] <mojtaba> could you please let me know what can I choose? I have no idea.
[19:19] <mojtaba> internet download manager
[19:19] <mojtaba> I am pretty new to linux
[19:19] <mojtaba> please help
[19:19] <dr_willis> mojtaba:  i find i rarely need a download manager.. why do you want one?
[19:19] <bluesnow> Anyone know how to solve this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2107004
[19:20] <bluesnow> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04
[19:20] <bluesnow> with an intel graphics driver
[19:20] <mojtaba> I want to download some files from a website
[19:20] <mojtaba> then how can I do that?
[19:20] <dr_willis> mojtaba:  click on the links?
[19:20] <bekks> mojtaba: Click them in your browser.
[19:20] <tanveer> how do i get
[19:20] <tanveer> Steam on ubuntu?!?
[19:20] <dr_willis> mojtaba:  or you want to give some more detailss...
[19:20] <minoo> escott: if i run ldd <binary> i get: not a dynamic executable
[19:20] <dr_willis> !steam | tanveer
[19:21] <xirtoth> how do i install flash player to firefox on kubuntu? noob on linux :)
[19:21] <mojtaba> dr_willis: There are many files to be downloaded and I want to make schedule for downloading
[19:21] <dr_willis> !flash
[19:21] <dr_willis> mojtaba:  for web site cloneing - httrack.  or check out wget, or curl
[19:21] <xkernel> how to install Ubuntu 12.10 with separate /home partition and also encrypt the whole disk?
[19:22] <mojtaba> dr_willis: suppose you visit a website and would like to download 20 files from there, not the whole website.
[19:22] <zygoptera> xkernel >> if you encrypt your system disk, you will have problems if you ever need to repair files to boot (which happens much too often)
[19:23] <ikonia> xkernel: do you REALLY need to encypt the whole disk, more so as you don't know how to do it
[19:23] <j32a32> I am trying to run ubuntu 12.04 on my Acer Aspire One 725-0899 and I am unable to use the built in mouse pad and I do not have access to an external mouse.
[19:24] <tanveer> my steam on ubuntu is not installing
[19:24] <tanveer> its been saying waiting fo a while
[19:24] <dr_willis> tanveer:  see the ubuntu-steam channel
[19:24] <tanveer> whats it called?
[19:25] <zygoptera> "#ubuntu-steam"
[19:25] <dr_willis> !steam | tanveer  2nd time now...
[19:25] <tanveer> dr_willis:  i still have the same sound problem i am neweruser123  from long time ago
[19:25] <xkernel> ikonia, yes I have to encrypt the whole disk and I'm already on encrypted disk but I need to have separate home partition so I don't restore my whole data every time I install system
[19:25] <tanveer> the sound problem which no one could fix
[19:25] <dr_willis> tanveer:  i doubt if i wold rember it if  it was from 10 min ago... ;0
[19:25] <tanveer> it was from 1 month ago
[19:26] <dr_willis> i rarey mess with sound issues.  since ive rarely had sound issues
[19:26] <psyke83> hey guys. I'm on the 12.10 Ubuntu release, and something is driving me nuts. In gnome-terminal, key navigation is broken. If I press ctrl + left/right/up/down, control codes are printed instead of moving. How can I fix this?
[19:27] <zygoptera> xkernel >> (1) partition the second hdd (2) format that partition (3) add an entry to your fstab pointinh "/home" to that partition
[19:29] <AminosAmigos> I am running unity 2D and i have no idea why any help ?
[19:29] <j32a32> I am trying to run ubuntu 12.04 on my Acer Aspire One 725-0899 and I am unable to use the built in mouse pad and I do not have access to an external mouse
[19:30] <blargg> I have a 101-key keyboard and want to remap caps lock to be a modifier for accessing media keys. e.g. caps lock+F1=volume down, caps lock+F2=volume up, etc.
[19:31] <blargg> I'm thinking that I need to map it to be a fourth modifier, then make F1-F12 have secondary codes when it's pressed, but I'm not sure how.
[19:31] <Cypher27> ubuntu is life
[19:31] <snql> sex*
[19:32] <DJones> snql: Nope, wrong channel & network
[19:32] <xkernel> zygoptera, is ok to resize2fs the root on the working system or do I have to boot with livecd?
[19:32]  * yakirice cheers at DJones
[19:32] <dr_willis> xkernel:  you dont resize a in use fulesystem
[19:33] <j32a32> I am trying to run ubuntu 12.04 on my Acer Aspire One 725-0899 and I am unable to use the built in mouse pad and I do not have access to an external mouse any ideas?
[19:34] <l057c0d3r> hello peeps...
[19:35] <yakirice> j32a32: http://askubuntu.com/questions/190489/touchpad-not-working-in-ubuntu-12-04
[19:35] <l057c0d3r> was hoping i could get some help really fast... i didn't set up auto login when i installed ubuntu...  so i went into /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and added autologin-user="My user name" and autologin-user-timeout=5 so it would log me in after 5 seconds if another user was not selected
[19:35] <lucis> j332a32 what i can find is that when you type FN+F7 at the login screen, the touchpad works. the rest is up to you if this is the case.
[19:36] <l057c0d3r> however after 5 seconds instead of login me in..  the password box vanishes and it sais.. failed to authenticate..   where did i go wrong
[19:36] <j32a32> ubuntu recognizes the touch pad as Enabled but it does not work.
[19:36] <yakirice> oh :/
[19:37] <SolarisBoy> is there a specific package to install to avoid these messages "locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory" on actions like apt-get installs etc. - it's a debootstrapped ubuntu 12.04.1 precise system
[19:38] <lucis> j32a32 they have mentioned that is indeed so, but it states that in the login screen the fn+f7 should do the trick.  perhaps synclient TouchPadOff=0
[19:38] <yakirice> yeah i just saw that also lucis
[19:38] <j32a32> ok thanks lucis
[19:38] <PeterGriffin> Is it possible to split the console in two and see 2 tty on the same screen in order to tail 2 files simultaneously?
[19:39] <cire> I cannot find package smbfs. Did it get replaced, and if yes, by what?
[19:39] <schallusion> hi, after upgrading to the new kernel (3.2.0.-36) yesterday, my wlan stoped working. It is a Broadcom BCM 4313 device. it does not get an ip address anymore. any idea what could have gone wrong?
[19:39] <bekks> !samba | cire
[19:40] <cire> ubottu: I have a samba server. I need smbfs on the client side.
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> PeterGriffin: terminator can be split easily. Or just open 2 terminals side by side
[19:40] <lucis> schallusion, does the led of the wifi still light up?
[19:40] <cire> bekks: i need sth for doing "mount //server/share /target"
[19:40] <bekks> cire: Install samba.
[19:40] <cire> bekks: samba-common?
[19:41] <cire> I do not want the server
[19:41] <jarray52> Is there a way I can get my edid id number? I want the hexidecimal string version. xrandr --prop fails.
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> Schallusion: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i firm     do you see messages about missing firmware
[19:41] <os__konversation> hi
[19:41] <lucis> schallusion, try rfkill unblock all          followed by : ifconfig wlan0 up
[19:41] <PeterGriffin> ActionParsnip: I have only console, no graphics. It's a server
[19:42] <os__konversation> canon pixma mp250 printer doesn't scan anything ..
[19:42] <cire> okay, I think samba4-clients is the way
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> PeterGriffin: ahh, you could use screen. Not sure about side by side
[19:42] <os__konversation> any ideas ?
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> Os_konversation: did you check the canon Europe site for driver?
[19:43] <herpherp> Hello, someone pretty please take alook at my xorg.conf i cant get nvidia-settings to play nice: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1577719/
[19:43] <cire> cifs-utils was the right packagfe
[19:43] <os__konversation> ActionParsnip: i check the offical site
[19:44] <os__konversation> it has a driver for ubuntu 10.04
[19:44] <l057c0d3r> any idea why i get failed to authenticate on login using autoloign?  added autologin-user=USERNAME to /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[19:44] <herpherp> os__konversation: was that for me?
[19:44] <os__konversation> herpherp: no :) sorry
[19:44] <herpherp> oh hehe np np :)
[19:45] <IdleOne> l057c0d3r: I am thinking there is something you need to edit in /etc/pam.d/lightdm but I am not sure what
[19:45] <schallusion> ActionParsnip, lucis: i will try
[19:45] <l057c0d3r> IdleOne, i'll check it out...
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> Os_konversation: yes, does the driver work?
[19:45] <os__konversation> ActionParsnip: i didn't try it actually .. :)
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Os_konversation: it doesn't say its for Lucid,  just says Ubuntu and Debian
[19:46] <netchip> bekks, do you have any tutorial how I can do that? :)
[19:47] <bekks> netchip: Doing what?
[19:47] <netchip> bekks, binding a specific service to a specific IP ;-)
[19:47] <netchip> bekks, binding a specific service to a specific IP ;-)
[19:48] <bekks> netchip: Depends on the service.
[19:48] <l057c0d3r> hmm.. maybe i should add myself to the group nopasswordlogin..
[19:48] <os__konversation> ActionParsnip:
[19:48] <os__konversation> Operating system(s):
[19:48] <os__konversation> Fedora 12 (32 & 64 bit), Ubuntu 10.04 (32 & 64 bit), open SUSE 11.2 (32 & 64 bit
[19:48] <l057c0d3r> it sais auto sufficeient pam_succeed_if.so user ingroup nopasswordlogin
[19:48] <os__konversation> ActionParsnip: here please : http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0010752.asp
[19:48] <schallusion> lucis: the network is up (with eth1). it seems that the wlan is connected to the network but does not get an ip
[19:48] <l057c0d3r> or there is an optional pam_gnome_keyring.so
[19:48] <netchip> bekks, ah, so I can't do that right via Ubuntu?
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> Os_konversation: www.canon.co.uk/Support/Consumer_Products/products/Fax__Multifunctionals/InkJet/PIXMA_MP_series/PIXMA_MP250.aspx?DLtcmuri=tcm:14-822898&page=1&type=download
[19:49] <bekks> netchip: You can do it entirely in Ubuntu - every service you runn is a part of Ubuntu.
[19:49] <schallusion> ActionParsnip: this seems a hit
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> Os_konversation: says ubuntu and Debian .....
[19:50] <schallusion> ActionParsnip: ACPI(PEGP) defines _DOD but not _DOS
[19:50] <lucis> schallusion, what does ifconfig tell you?
[19:50] <l057c0d3r> k well i think i got it now.. going to see if it worked
[19:50] <netchip> bekks, I mean, configure Ubuntu to let that service run on that IP ;)
[19:50] <l057c0d3r> thanks for pointing me in a good direction IdleOne
[19:51] <schallusion> lucis: ifconfig tells me the interface is up, iwconfig tells me it is connected, the log tries DHCPDISCOVER, but fails
[19:51] <IdleOne> l057c0d3r: hope you sort it out.
[19:51] <bekks> netchip: Yes, you have to configure the service to do so. By default, a service runs on all available interfaces.
[19:51] <bekks> netchip: There is no magic button that does your job. :)
[19:53] <user57809> anyone from toronto here knows a place where one could get his hands on an old computer hardware for cheap? or are craiglist/kijiji the best options in this case?
[19:54] <netchip> bekks, Ah, okay, thank you! :)
[19:54] <lucis> schallusion, try restarting the network service
[19:55] <dyoung2> Hi Just used swapon -s and it shows a partition size of 6236156. What does that mean? Is it in bytes/kb/Mb??
[19:56] <schallusion> lucis: i tried restarting the device and the computer several times ... the wlan itself is also working. another laptop gets the connection
[19:58] <lucis> schallusion, still try /etc/init.d/network restart. have had trouble myself in the past with down/up'ing interfaces and rebooting all not working. yet that restart did the trick
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> User57809: ebay maybe
[20:02] <schallusion> lucis: still no dhcp working
[20:02] <happyface> I changed my cursor theme and the cursor is now switching between a generic black cursor and the new theme
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> Happyface: tried logging off and on?
[20:03] <happyface> ActionParsnip, yeah
[20:04] <happyface> ActionParsnip, might just be a defective theme
[20:04] <Dmnchild> Greetings all, curious if anyone is seasoned with freenx? Im getting a 404 error on the apt-get install freenx (seems I got repository in there. using server 12.10) Following the FreeNX guide I get stuck here.
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> Happyface: tried a reboot too?
[20:05] <happyface> ActionParsnip, yeah
[20:05] <DarkSim> On Ubuntu 12.04 how do I look how much space there is left on a drive?
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> Dmnchild: does the repo support Quantal?
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> Darksim: df -h
[20:06] <Dmnchild> ActionParsnip: I think its accessing the repo, per instructions it let me add, update etc. then I get 3 similar errors for different versions when it tries to install
[20:06] <Dmnchild> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/freenx-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> Darksim: partitions have space, not the drive.  Even if the partition is 100% of the drive, it's still the partition
[20:07] <Dmnchild> and so forth for different cpu
[20:07] <DarkSim> ActionParsnip, I have a extra 100gb ext4 partition which I was supposed to store things on but everything happens to stay on the OS partition
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Dmnchild: http://ppa.launchpad.net/freenx-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> Darksim: you can mount the other partition as a folder and use it that way.
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> Dmnchild: can you see why its not found :-)
[20:09] <DarkSim> Yeah I guess, it just that everything I install manually gets installed on the OS Drive anyway
[20:09] <DarkSim> So I guess it's less important to have seperate drives in Linux than it is on Windows
[20:10] <DarkSim> partitions*
[20:10] <lucis> schallusion can you ping the modem? if you cannot it is normal you get no ip.
[20:10] <Dmnchild> Bah so time to downgrade then eh
[20:10] <Frank604> Darksim: or you can simlink the drive
[20:11] <Dmnchild> I only have remote access to this computer so needs to support remote login (less i decide to only command prompt, but i am not on that level yet ;p)
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Darksim: it can be advantageous,  separate /home is good, some people like to have other parts of the filesystem on its own partitions
[20:11] <codepython777> I've a remote ubuntu box with 10GB hard drive space (only ssh access with root). How can I backup the hard drive so that I can build a machine locally with 10GB hard drive that is a mirror of the remote box.
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Dmnchild: what are you intending to use freenx to achieve?
[20:11] <DarkSim> Oh ok, still learning Linux (for almost 1 year now)
[20:12] <Dmnchild> GUI remote login using the Nomachine Player
[20:12] <DarkSim> but I guess I'll just wipe it all if it doesn't feel good
[20:12] <DarkSim> it's only 130gb
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> Darksim: yes but to do what on the remote system?
[20:12] <codepython777> touch: cannot touch `tempfile': Read-only file system -- any ideas on how to debug/fix this?
[20:12] <DarkSim> Sorry, you lost me
[20:12] <bekks> codepython777: sudo mount -o rw,remount ...
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> Darksim: obviously its remote access, that is what freenx is for
[20:13] <bekks> codepython777: Most likely, there is a reason why it was mounted readonly.
[20:13] <codepython777> bekks: why did this happen?
[20:13] <DarkSim> ActionParsnip, you are talking to the wrong guy
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> Darksim: what activities will you be doing on the remote system
[20:13] <bekks> codepython777: You have to find it out, e.g. using dmesg
[20:13] <codepython777> bekks: how can we find out whats the problem?
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> Darksim: doh
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> Dmnchild: what are you going to do on the remote system
[20:14] <Bruse_> Hello folks
[20:14] <DarkSim> ActionParsnip, I have free 104gb drive space, how can I use that to expand the OS partition?
[20:14] <codepython777> bekks: my dmesg does not even have a word "read" that is realted to read only it seems
[20:14] <Dmnchild> consolidation of services I pay for through other companies… web hosting, seed box being the primary uses.
[20:15] <Bruse_> I am having trouble installing ubuntu on a Macbook Pro 9.2.
[20:15] <Dmnchild> stuff I could do via command prompt only, but still would like the remote login.
[20:15] <bekks> codepython777: Then it might have run out of the ring buffer of dmesg already.
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> Darksim: you could mount it  as a folder and use it as data storage
[20:15] <Bruse_> When I try to boot from the DVD I keep getting stuck with a black screen and a blinking underscore
[20:15] <DarkSim> I understood that, but for the sake of change, let's merge the partitions instead
[20:15] <codepython777> bekks: http://pastebin.com/TdUDAFMD
[20:15] <Bruse_> I have tried multiple DVD's now
[20:16] <Bruse_> Anyone here recognize the problem?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Dmnchild: if yoy can do it securely via cli, I'd do that. Fewer services listening
[20:16] <bekks> codepython777: Which Ubuntu is it? And is it a virtualized server?
[20:16] <codepython777> bekks: /dev/xvda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) -- ?
[20:16] <codepython777> bekks: it is a virtualized server that i got from another company
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Bruse_: what video chip do yoy use?
[20:17] <codepython777> bekks: /dev/xvda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) -- I guess /dev/xvda1 is acting up?
[20:17] <bekks> codepython777: I guess it is ro, since mount states it cant write to /etc/mtab
[20:17] <Bruse_> ActionParsnip it is the Nvidia HD4000
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Bruse_: oh a switchable gpu thing?
[20:19] <Bruse_> ActionParsnip , hmm, not sure. I think it is integrated with the CPU?
[20:19] <Eddispagetti> hallo,  könnte mir jemand helfen?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Bruse_: add the boot option:   nouveau.blacklist=1
[20:19] <bekks> !de | Eddispagetti
[20:19] <ntalasha> so how do i start firstime on ubuntu
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Bruse_: you will get issues with that mess. You will need bumblebee to get any sort of support
[20:20] <Bruse_> ActionParsnip I am a bit of a noob. What does that command do and how do I do it?  Bootoption | Bruse_
[20:21] <raven> hi i have an external hard drive that has broken in the last couple of days
[20:22] <raven> i dont know really what happend but my parents took the usb cable out from the computer when it was off and i was not home.. anyways trying to mount it via ubuntu but fdisk -l and lsusb -vv does not show the disk at all (its an external drive with separate power supply)
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Ntalasha: not seeing anything in my chat log
[20:22] <raven> anyone knows what the reason could be ?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Raven: try in ##hardware
[20:23] <Bruse_> ActionParsnip ubottu Ok, thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
[20:23] <bekks> raven: Broken harddisk, broken USB case, broken power supply.
[20:23] <raven> bekks i tried to change usb cable still the same
[20:23] <codepython777> bekks: if its read only, is there a way to create a backup of that drive so that i can try to boot from that drive?
[20:23] <codepython777> or is that too crazy to try
[20:24] <malkauns> how do i get ccsm in 12.10 to remember my settings like keybindings and command shortkeys?
[20:24] <bekks> codepython777: Sure, just copy the data to another filesystem.
[20:24] <ntalasha> hey am using a generic ubuntu linux combination can someone help me understand,i need am failing to load the google chrome browser
[20:24] <raven> the power supply nah dont think so, the LED on the drive flashes white
[20:28] <codepython777> bekks: how do i copy? rsync? I'd like to create a replica of the original hard drive.
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Maljauns: ask in #compiz too. I'm pretty sure ccsm isn't to be used now. It causes problems
[20:29] <bekks> codepython777: then use a livecd and clone the disk using dd or clonezilla
[20:29] <malkauns> hmm
[20:30] <keelG> Hi guys - I have this small cosmetic issue with ubuntu, any suggestions will be much appreciated: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1577838/
[20:31] <gnom3> hi
[20:32] <dr_willis> moo!
[20:32] <keelG> moomoo
[20:32] <Fuzolan> The Message "Your BIOS is broken; DMA routed to ISOCH DMAR unit but no TLB space." should only lead to a performace drop or I'm wrong?
[20:33] <Dmnchild> ActionParsnip: Hm, installing. so far better then the 12.10 lol. thanks. Now perhaps Ill get lucky and make it through setup without snags
[20:34] <Nahita> Hey guys, do any one know any dedicated ubuntu server channel?
[20:34] <ravur> how to use overlayfs as root? Do I need Ubuntu 12.10, or 12.04 is enough?
[20:34] <Guest33032> no
[20:34] <phunyguy> Nahita, #ubuntu-server
[20:35] <Nahita> phunyguy: thnx
[20:35] <poiut> 1111
[20:36] <codepython777> bekks: Is it safe to try ? sudo touch /forcefsck ?
[20:36] <codepython777> bekks:  as far as copying is concerned. I only have ssh access, so livecd is out
[20:37] <codepython777> bekks: wont even let me do that : touch: cannot touch `/forcefsck': Read-only file system
[20:37] <schallusion> lucis: thx for help ..
[20:37] <schallusion> by
[20:38] <aaamourao> Hey, someone knows how to install GRUB in a PC with a UEFIbooting?
[20:39] <lucis> schallusion you figured it out?
[20:39] <bekks> codepython777: "/touch forcefsck" is not part of booting a livecd and running fsck -f
[20:40] <codepython777> bekks: that was for trying to get the filesystem to recover from read only
[20:40] <wbf> does anyone know how to get a netgear N150 working in ubuntu?
[20:40] <OerHeks> !uefi | aaamourao
[20:42] <wbf> again, does anyone know how to get a netgear N150 working in ubuntu?
[20:47] <Vivekanada> hello everyone. I google hangout my connection keeps dropping
[20:47] <Vivekanada> like every few seconds
[20:47] <Vivekanada> how do I trouble shoot?
[20:50] <boriseto> One noobish question. Can somebody point me to a repository like getdeb/playdeb, since those are discontinued?
[20:50] <MartynKeigher> github?
[20:51] <lauratika> is there a way to move file between folders without copying them?
[20:51] <boriseto> lauratika, with cut or holding shift while drag n drop.
[20:52] <xangua> !ppa | boriseto
[20:52] <boriseto> xangua, ubottu , yeap, thank you
[20:53] <zykes-> how can I debug these ? "Jan 27 13:19:56 svc02 kernel: [175799.587970] init: ceilometer-api main process (31797) terminated with status 2" ?
[20:54] <lauratika> no drag n' drop option...
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> Vivekanada: does the whole web connection drop too?
[20:54] <wbf> Action! good to see you!
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> Wbf: thanks :)
[20:54] <wbf> ActionParsnip: do you know how to get a belkin n150 working on linux?
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> Wbf: which wifi chip does it use?
[20:55] <Devaki> is anyone using MonoDevelop here ?
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> Wbf: isn't a 'belkin n150' a router?
[20:56] <wbf> ActionParsnip: RTL8188CUS
[20:56] <wbf> ActionParsnip: oops meant netgear XD
[20:56] <dr_willis> Laurenceb: hold ctrl as you drag and drop'.
[20:57] <wbf> ActionParsnip: sorry for the confusion
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> Wbf: http://thatguruguy.wordpress.com/2012/09/04/working-rtl8188cus-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[20:58] <_helios_> Hey for some reason libmp3lame is missing on Xubuntu how can I get it back?
[20:59] <msev> hi guys, is it normal that firefox takes 5-7seconds to start up in ubuntu 12.10?
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> Msev: cold start, yes
[20:59] <daze> depends on your hardware :)
[20:59] <ravur> how to make root filesystem on overlayfs?
[20:59] <wbf> ActionParsnip: how would I get all the packages and manually install them to compile it? b/c I have no internet access on that ubuntu desktop
[20:59] <dr_willis> ! Find libmp3lame
[21:00] <dr_willis> !Find libmp3lame
[21:00] <msev> laptop: 2.2ghz dualcore , 2gb ram, nvidia 8600m gt 256mb,..lol ancient hardware
[21:01] <xangua> msev: if you don't want it send it to me :)
[21:02] <arun> hey guys i am unable to install tar.bz2 of filezilla
[21:02] <arun> help me
[21:02] <msev> xangua haha
[21:02] <msev> :)
[21:02] <_helios_> dr_willis, I found it, I forgot to sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras on this machine lol
[21:02] <msev> I need it still :)
[21:03] <xangua> arun: sudo apt-get install filezilla ; it's already on repository
[21:03] <arun> hey can't i install from .tar.bz2?
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> Arun: nautilus can connect to anything Filezilla can
[21:04] <kiraslaugh> what is the best way to set up vnc, like the most secure way?
[21:04] <msev> is there some command to list all installed software in the terminal?
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | kiraslaugh
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> Kiraslaugh::what are you wanting to do on the remote system via the VNC?
[21:05] <Phosphate> Anyone have experience with 13.04 on a Nexus 7?
[21:05] <Dmnchild> FreeNX is kicking my arse atm :( service is running now, seems to want to connect and comes up black screen. boo. Im determined to figure it out though ;p
[21:06] <wbf> ActionParsnip: I said How would i manually actually download all the packages required in order to finish the tutorial?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Phosphate: #ubuntu+1 for raring support til release day
[21:06] <kiraslaugh> well i was actually just needing it to start VMs that i control remotely for school
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Wbf: wired connection
[21:06] <Phosphate> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[21:06] <wbf> ActionParsnip: well how would I do that with a windows laptop a flash drive and the device?
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Kiraslaugh: what do you virtulize with?
[21:07] <kiraslaugh> virtualbox
[21:07] <chechodan> hello everyone
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Wbf: grab what it needs online I guess. Using a wired link will be far far easier
[21:07] <chechodan> i have a question for you
[21:07] <arun> hey guys my smartcam is not working please help
[21:08] <chechodan> how redimension my swap from 2gb to 4gb encrypted
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> Kiraslaugh: could try http://code.google.com/p/phpvirtualbox/
[21:09] <chechodan> how this work?
[21:09] <msev> guys have fun!
[21:09] <msev> gotta go
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> Chchodan: ask support questions
[21:09] <chechodan> where
[21:09] <chechodan> thank you
[21:09] <malkauns> ActionParsnip, looks like i had to change the backend in ccsm to flat-file config
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Chechodan: where you are typing now, type you question
[21:10] <chechodan> ok :) my question is: how redimension my swap from 2gb to 4gb encryoted
[21:11] <chechodan> encrypted
[21:11] <wbf> ActionParsnip: How do I find out the name of the package to compile the driver?
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> Wbf: you could study the text in the script
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> Wbf: is the USB wifi being used in a laptop?
[21:13] <wbf> ActionParsnip: there's no package mentioned in the script
[21:13] <arun> hey hey my smartcam is not working guys help me
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> Arun: do you see yourself in cheese?
[21:13] <arun> ????????????????
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> Wbf: is it a laptop?
[21:14] <arun> hey guys help me yaaaaaaar
[21:14] <arun> hey hey my smartcam is not working guys help me
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Arun: you seem to have ueed characters my client cannot show
[21:14] <arun> hey hey my smartcam is not working guys help me
[21:14] <arun> hey hey my smartcam is not working guys help me
[21:14] <FloodBot1> arun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:14] <arun> hey hey my smartcam is not working guys help me
[21:14] <arun> hey
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Arun: great way to get banned and ignored. Don't vdo that,
[21:15] <arun> ok
[21:15] <arun> hey but guys help me
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Arun: do you see yourself in cheese?
[21:15] <arun> ?
[21:15] <arun> u mean
[21:15] <arun> hey which is fastest ubuntu download site?
[21:16] <dr_willis> torrents i find fsstest
[21:16] <wbf> ActionParsnip: the build link is broken :O
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> Arun: install and run it, it is a program. Try saying "I don't know what you mean" rather than "?????" Which is completely meaningless
[21:16] <BluesKaj> arun, doenload for ubuntu or applications ?
[21:17] <arun> apps
[21:17] <BluesKaj> arun , the packager manager
[21:17] <arun> ok thanks for ur kind info
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> Arun: the fastest download will change with load and location,  there is no single fastest or nobody would use any other.  But then it would be the slowest due to traffic
[21:18] <wbf> ActionParsnip: as in /lib/modules/3.0.8+/build is broken
[21:18] <arun> oh thanks
[21:19] <arun> guys but pops some error while loading smartcam
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Arun: you haven't answered my question
[21:20] <arun> yes whats your question?
[21:20] <bennypr0fane> hello, I installed a GUI application (Canon scanner software "Scangear MP") ) in 12.04 (Unity) but it does not show in the menu. When I type its name in dashboard there are no results. I can start it from terminal though, so it's installed. How can I make it availalble in the menu?
[21:20] <wbf> ActionParsnip: now build is missing.
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> Arun: 3rd time now: do you see yourself in cheese?
[21:20] <arun> no
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> Arun: ok, run:  lsusb     use the 8 character hex I'd to find guides
[21:22] <arun> lsusb
[21:22] <chechodan> http://apuntes-para-no-olvidar.blogspot.com.ar/2011/09/ampliar-memoria-swap-en-ubuntu.html
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> Arun: ib a terminal
[21:22] <Muelli> bennypr0fane: you have to put a .desktop file in the correct directory. That should bootstrap you to get you going.
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> In*
[21:22] <arun> hey it doesn't work in terminal aslso
[21:22] <arun> asks for packages
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> Arun: LSUSB   in lower case
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> Arun:   what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue     too please
[21:23] <Dmnchild> Curious: No monitor attached to server, would this make it so no /.Xauthority is created? Seems I am stuck on this with FreeNX
[21:24] <Dmnchild> FreeNX is trying to connect now, and from what I am reading my problem is coming from this file that does not exist
[21:26] <arun> lsusb: Bus 003 Device 004: ID 03f0:171d Hewlett-Packard Bluetooth 2.0 Interface [Broadcom BCM2045]
[21:26] <arun> Bus 004 Device 002: ID 15d9:0a4c Trust International B.V. USB+PS/2 Optical Mouse
[21:26] <arun> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[21:26] <arun> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[21:26] <arun> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[21:26] <arun> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[21:26] <FloodBot1> arun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> Arun: we don't need that, you do
[21:27] <arun> and for cat/etc/issue:
[21:27] <arun> Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> Arun: imagine if evenn5 people pasted like that? Think about it..... how useless the channel would be?
[21:28] <ClientAlive> I have a desktop with 12.04 server and gnome 3 on it and just got a new lappy. I want to put 12.04 desktop (not server) on the lappy but I also want to install all the same programs on it that are on the desktop (with the exception of only a couple things). Is there an easy automated way to do this once I've installed 12.04 destktop on the lappy?
[21:28] <jasunto> anyone familiar with the rsyslogd on 12.10?
[21:28] <jasunto> or should i say rsyslog
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> ! Clone | clientalive
[21:29] <jasunto> anyone know how to enable syslog server in 12.10, more specifically server version
[21:29] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: awesome. And I assume that all I would need to do is edit that file to delete the entries for the apps I don't want?
[21:30] <markprime> anyone familiar with binwalk?
[21:30] <iceroot> !anyone | markprime
[21:30] <arun> hey i didn't paste that
[21:30] <arun> all
[21:30] <arun>  i just copied the whole output man
[21:31] <jasunto> how do you enable syslog server in 12.10 server?
[21:31] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: Hey thx man.  I know better. Peace  :)
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> Clientalive: absolutely
[21:32] <keelG> Hi guys - I have this issue with Ubuntus Ambiance and Radiance theme - any suggestions will be much appreciated: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1577838/
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> Jasunto: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-remote-syslog-logging-on-debian-and-ubuntu/
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> Jasunto: took me about 15 seconds to find......
[21:33] <cristian_c> Hi
[21:33] <jasunto> me too, except 12.10 is using rsyslog
[21:33] <cristian_c> What command must I use from terminal to make the Find box appeared in chromium?
[21:33] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[21:33] <arun> hey action help me man where are u
[21:33] <jasunto> and i dont see the lines that are mentioned in those old articles
[21:33] <yeats> cristian_c: Ctrl-F?
[21:33] <cristian_c> yeats, Ctrl+F opens xterm
[21:34] <markprime> having trouble making binwalk on 11.10 just wondered if anyone was familiar with it, any suggestions
[21:34] <TheLordOfTime> cristian_c, then you're doing it wrong - ctrl+f is the keyboard shortcut for find in chromium
[21:34] <yeats> cristian_c: wait - I'm not sure I understand - you want to invoke the Find box in Chromium from the command lin?
[21:34] <TheLordOfTime> if something's intercepting that and running xterm instead...
[21:34] <jasunto> and as i thought, opening said file from pasted guide results in blank page meaning that file doesnt exist
[21:35] <jasunto> rephrase: How do you configure syslog server using 12.10 rsyslog?
[21:35] <cristian_c> yeats, yes
[21:36] <cristian_c> TheLordOfTime, but f I press Ctrl+F an xterm window appears :(
[21:36] <yeats> cristian_c: okay - then I have no idea, sorry
[21:36] <cristian_c> yeats, ok
[21:37] <ThinkT510> cristian_c: why do you want to do that?
[21:37] <TheLordOfTime> cristian_c, whcih means something somewhere has ctrl+f as a keyboard shortcut to open xterm, and is overruling chromium's shortcut
[21:37] <TheLordOfTime> cristian_c, you need to figure out what and disable that
[21:37]  * TheLordOfTime uses ttys for terminal, so he can't help much.
[21:37] <cristian_c> TheLordOfTime, maybe :)
[21:37] <_helios_> TheLordOfTime, uses the 133t ctrl-alt-f1 f2 f3 etc... lol
[21:38] <jasunto> guessed around and found uncommenting # provides UDP syslog reception $ModLoad imudp $UDPServerRun 514 works for udp
[21:38] <TheLordOfTime> cristian_c, no "maybe" there, that's a definite cause of such a problem.
[21:38] <TheLordOfTime> cristian_c, in all the ubuntu releases, ctrl +f is NOT a shortcut to open xterm.
[21:38] <TheLordOfTime> by default at least
[21:38] <cristian_c> ok
[21:38] <cristian_c> TheLordOfTime, I've not set any shortcut for xterm
[21:39] <VlanX> how do i clear arp cache on ubuntu?
[21:39] <ThinkT510> cristian_c: lsb_release -sd
[21:39] <arun> hey how to allow my software to use bluetooth software
[21:39] <ClientAlive> Now I have one other question tied to my first question: 12.04 desktop will surely come (by default) with some packages I don't want on there. Is there a convenient way to gather a list of stuff to remove and then do so in an automated fashion (like the command I was given for repicating the packages from my desktop machine to the lappy)
[21:39] <ClientAlive> ??
[21:40] <cristian_c> ThinkT510, Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[21:40] <jrib> ClientAlive: apt-get remove package1 package2 ...
[21:40] <ThinkT510> cristian_c: are you using unity?
[21:40] <_helios_> ClientAlive, I think apt-get autoremove package1 package2 etc
[21:41] <cristian_c> ThinkT510, no
[21:41] <ThinkT510> cristian_c: what desktop environment are you using?
[21:41] <cristian_c> ThinkT510, lxde
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> Cristian_c: CTRL + ALT + T   opens a gnome-terminal
[21:42] <ThinkT510> cristian_c: look for your keyboard shortcuts settings
[21:42] <skp1> can someone help me? everytime i set my computer to suspend after one hour, the power options reset to zero, i think when i logoff or reboot
[21:42] <skp1> reset to do nothing i mean
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> Cristian_c: also works in other DEs and opens their terminals too
[21:42] <cristian_c> ThinkT510, I don't find them
[21:42] <ClientAlive> jrib: helio: what about something more, errr... automated than searching for every package I don't want on there? Is it conceivable I could run << aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages  >> on the newly installed o/s on the lappy, diff the two files (the lappy one and the desktop machine one). Then review and edit that diffed file. When satisfied, is there a way to feed that fill in for the purpose
[21:42] <ClientAlive> of removing (not installing)?
[21:42] <_helios_> skp1, Are you plugged into a wall?
[21:43] <Phonequer2> Why does bzr dh-make shout about no "whoami" being set, and then, in the created package, sets everything to root@localhost -- while I've had set the whoami to meaningful values?
[21:43] <ClientAlive> problem: don't know the commands for diff or feeding the file in to remove the stuff.
[21:43] <ThinkT510> cristian_c: then you likely are not looking hard enough
[21:43] <skp1> _helios_: yes, it's a desktop
[21:43] <jrib> ClientAlive: how can your preferences be automated?  It's your preference as to whether or not you want a package
[21:43] <ClientAlive> jrib: hang on I will show you something
[21:44] <_helios_> skp1, that's weird, I don't use suspend though because it's known to cause issues.
[21:44] <blargg> I'm not getting any of the media keys to work. They're enabled, in particular in dconf-editor org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys. xev reports that they are showing up as media keys (e.g. KeyPress event [...] keycode 67 (keysym 0x1008ff11, XF86AudioLowerVolume)
[21:44] <cristian_c> ThinkT510, ok
[21:44] <arun> hey guys hhhhhhhhhhellllllllppppppppp
[21:44] <Laxis> What do you need help with arun?
[21:44] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip gave me this a moment ago. It is for installing not removing. Can I do what I was asking in connection with it; but, in the end. for removal rather than installation?
[21:45] <ClientAlive> ! Clone | clientalive
[21:45] <arun> i cannot configure smartcam man
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> Arun: did one of the lines from lsusb not identify the device?
[21:46] <andy321> help please with USB serial port adapter, can no see ttyUSBS0 connected, triend minicom with pins 2 and 3 shorted but nothing appears on screen, have chmod to 666 and made user added to dialout group, is there anything else to do?
[21:46] <ClientAlive> jrib: this -> "<ubottu> (In the future, please use a private message to investigate) To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this may cause
[21:46] <ClientAlive> problems with multiarch before 12.10)"
[21:46] <jrib> ClientAlive: yes?
[21:46] <arun> yes it did
[21:46] <blargg> Anyone got any ideas about my media key problem?
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> Arun: did you search for the 8 character hex I'd?
[21:46] <ClientAlive> jrib: so to reverse the process with a diff and a review/edit thrown in the middle
[21:46] <ClientAlive> commands to do so?
[21:47] <arun> Bus 003 Device 004: ID 03f0:171d Hewlett-Packard Bluetooth 2.0 Interface [Broadcom BCM2045]
[21:47] <arun> this is all i got
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> Arun: thats a Bluetooth device,  not a webcam.
[21:48] <blargg> I'm not getting any of the media keys to work. They're enabled, in particular in dconf-editor org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys. xev reports that they are showing up as media keys (e.g. KeyPress event [...] keycode 67 (keysym 0x1008ff11, XF86AudioLowerVolume)
[21:48] <spacecase> for some reason cinnamon is using a ridiculous amount of CPU.  Upwards of 50-60%
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> Spadecase: cinnamon isn't supported here
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> Spacecase: ^
[21:49] <arun> hey man don't u know smartcam ?
[21:49] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: Surely you know the commands for the second part?   You want to remove packages.  Yes?
[21:51] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: I can scroll up, copy and past again if you like
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> Arun: sorry, i'm not knowledgeable of every software ever
[21:51] <orionar> hello, im a noob, how do you cd to a file location in terminal
[21:51] <arun> ok
[21:51] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: just let me know the best way
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> Arun: think before you type
[21:51] <arun> than teach me how to allow a software to use bluetooth
[21:52] <orionar> can someone help me? i need to learn how to cd to a file location in terminal
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> Arun: what phone do you have?
[21:52] <_helios_> orionar, you type cd path/path
[21:52] <arun> n72
[21:52] <orionar> what do i put in path/path, how do i find the filepath?
[21:52] <_helios_> orionar, type ls
[21:52] <orionar> 1s
[21:52] <_helios_> orionar, ls
[21:53] <ClientAlive> jrib: yes. I want an (almost) exact duplicate of the desktop machine on the lappy with these importand differences - (not appache2), not gnome 3 but rather unity (ubuntu's desktop release).. AND eclipse will be installed sparately.
[21:53] <_helios_> orionar, LS lower case
[21:53] <orionar> ok thank you, ill try
[21:53] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: I don't know what seconds means
[21:53] <_helios_> orionar, remember that the filesystem is CASE SENSATIVE
[21:53] <ClientAlive> not in the context I see you use it anyway
[21:53] <jrib> ClientAlive: why are there two machines now?  You're cloning the package installation from one machine to another and want to modify it?
[21:54] <_helios_> orionar, so if a folder says MyStuff make sure you type it cd MyStuff
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> Clientalive: was a typo
[21:54] <orionar> ok thank you, i just type the location, and then the file name?
[21:54] <andy321> help please with USB serial port adapter, I can see ttyUSBS0 connected, tried minicom with pins 2 and 3 shorted but nothing appears on screen, have chmod ttyUSBS0 to 666 and checked ttyUSBS0 is owned by dialout group, is there anything else to do?
[21:55] <ClientAlive> jrib: it's 2 things going on: (1) clone the packages from the desktop machine onto the laptop machine. (2) Remove 12.04 default packages (on the lapptop install) that are not currently found on the desktop machine.
[21:55] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: ok
[21:55] <ClientAlive> :O
[21:56] <Chuckqt> I'm looking for some help with ubuntu 12.12 missing unity and launcher bar
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> Arun: discussions.nokia.com/t5/Nseries-and-Symbian-Smartphones/n82-as-webcam-on-linux/td-p/370062
[21:57] <arun> thanks
[21:57] <ClientAlive> jrib: So the idea I thought may work is to (1) isolate the packages that get installed on the lappy wich are not found on the desktop machine. (2) feed that list into aptitude for removal as apposed to installation.
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> Chuckqt: what video chip do you use?
[21:57] <Chuckqt> nvida gts
[21:57] <Chuckqt> 450
[21:57] <jrib> ClientAlive: then you can either create another aptitude command that searches for uninstalled packages or just use dpkg --get-selections (with dpkg --get-selections though you lose the fact that with the aptitude command you didn't end up with dependencies as manually installed packages)
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> Chuckqt: did you install nvidia-current package?
[21:58] <ClientAlive> jrib: I wondered if diffing the list of installed packages that cones from the desktop machine with the list that comes from the lappy would genarate that.
[21:58] <jrib> ClientAlive: sure, you can do what you suggest too.  Just run the aptitude command on your laptop and then find the difference in the file (man comm)
[21:59] <Chuckqt> yea, I did on my last reinstall and I did updates thru software updater and on the reboot all I see is a blank screen
[21:59] <ClientAlive> jrib: ok, but the problem is I have never used diff (at least not successfully) and I don't know commands to do these actions.
[21:59] <ClientAlive> :)
[21:59] <jrib> ClientAlive: I suggest you use comm for this, not diff
[21:59] <ClientAlive> ok
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> Chuckqt: install xfce4 too, it doesn't need compositing to run. It'll give a usable desktop
[22:00] <heywood> what's the name of the control panel executable where you can set the power settings (screensaver lock timeout, etc.)?
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> Chuckqt: is the system a laptop?
[22:00] <ClientAlive> jrib: thx for your help sir. Do I now need to study how to use this package (comm) so that I'll have the command I need to run?
[22:00] <Chuckqt> no it's a desktop I built several years ago
[22:01] <Chuckqt> I was running an RC of windows 8 when it expired and I thought I would give ubuntu a try
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> Chuckqt: try running: nvidia-xconfig     in root recovery console
[22:01] <Chuckqt> of course this is my first attempt
[22:02] <minoo> how can i build a 32bit binary package on a amd64 workstation which is then installable via <package-name>:i386 ?
[22:02] <Rikstation> seem to have forgot my password, is there any way to recover
[22:02] <Rikstation> or renew
[22:02] <OerHeks> !lostpassword
[22:02] <jrib> ClientAlive: it's very straightforward, read its man page
[22:02] <Chuckqt> is this a problem with nvidia cards only?
[22:02] <zygoptera> minoo >> you would at least need to install the 32 bit sources
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Rikstation: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[22:03] <Rikstation> thank you ActionParsnip & OerHeks
[22:04] <BluesKaj> Chuckqt, which nvidia card ?
[22:04] <minoo> zygoptera: i have 32 bit binary here, its a upstream closed source thingy. I already builded a amd64 package with it, but dh_shlibdeps is not setting the correct dependencies
[22:04] <Chuckqt> gts450
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Chuckqt: if your monitor isn't playing right,  you can use an xorg.conf file to make it work. You will have problems if you use an Intel CPU with Ivy/Sandybridge
[22:05] <Chuckqt> I've installed the os as a 32bit and 64bit I was able to get a running system when I installed 12.4  32 bit but had to mess around and upgrade to the 64 bit
[22:05] <minoo> zygoptera: i already figured out all the 32bit packages which are needed for it, i just cant find a tutorial for building packages which are :i386
[22:06] <Chuckqt> some times I wish I could just leave thing alone
[22:06] <zygoptera> minoo >> isn't it a gcc option for which platform you are compiling for?
[22:08] <jeeves_moss> how can I recover the pictures from an SD card?  I've tried to use testdisk, and it can't see the partition
[22:08] <Chuckqt> well, thanks for the suggestions, I'm all set to complete a reinstall, so wish me luck
[22:08] <minoo> zygoptera: i'm not compiling at all, its already compiled bin
[22:09] <BluesKaj> Chuckqt, you may need the swatx ppa for the correct driver for the gts450,  http://howtofindsolution.blogspot.ca/2012/10/install-and-configure-latest-nvidia.html
[22:10] <BluesKaj> oops, too late
[22:10] <dr_willis> jeeves_moss:  you could try ddrescue to image the card to a file. then try to recover from the file with various tools also.
[22:12] <Justice> so is there a reason unity runs like crap when i disable desktop icons in dconf-editor ?
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> Jeeves_moss: try foremost. Your backups will be a far better method
[22:12] <erupter> I've got reading a bit on launchpad, but I'm still fuzzy over what are the needed steps to create a ppa. what else can I read to get a clear picture on what goes where?
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> Erupter: try in #launchpad
[22:13] <erupter> uh...
[22:13] <erupter> everything has a channel nowadays...
[22:13] <erupter> sometimes I'll find myself in #blowingmynose :p
[22:13] <erupter> ok thanks, going over there
[22:15] <ploot> howdy
[22:16] <Justice> how do i stop the annoying popups of "program failure report" ?
[22:16] <ploot> i'm havng trouble upgradiing ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 on a system that two OS
[22:16] <ClientAlive> can gnome shell be just flat out installed on top of a fresh 12.04 desktop install (with unity)? Will it break something or will I just end up with the choice to use gnome3 or unity?
[22:16] <ploot> it goes to grub_rescue
[22:16] <ploot> i've dealt with it before but problem is i can set the linux kernal
[22:16] <ploot> i can browse and see it
[22:16] <winnie^> hi, i stumble upon a "bug" src: http://trick77.com/2012/12/27/haproxy-and-real-ip-addresses-in-apache2-using-the-rpaf-module/ i tried it out and now everything is working fine
[22:16] <dr_willis> I thought you can do that ClientAlive
[22:16] <ploot> but if i try to set it I get "not an assignment"
[22:17] <crazybrain> My Ubuntu 12.10 stopped working
[22:17] <winnie^> this problem with <IfModule mod_rpaf.c> in rpaf.conf took me hours of nerve wrecking try and error sessions
[22:17] <crazybrain> It freezes in the loading process
[22:17] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: ok, I'll give er' a try. Worse come to worse I can reinstall  :)
[22:17] <ClientAlive> thx
[22:17] <crazybrain> Is there any repair disc or tool that i can apply??
[22:17] <dr_willis> Justice:  i belive thats called 'apport' or appreport'  theres several ways to disable it. but i dont recall how.  i looked up how on askubuntu.com ;)
[22:18] <crazybrain> I am not even able to use root as it freezes
[22:18] <dr_willis> crazybrain:  can you ssh in? perhaps check logs to see whats going on
[22:21] <crazybrain> dr_willis: how can i do that?
[22:21] <dr_willis> ssh ip.of.server   from a 2nd machine on the lan.. :) if you got ssh server installed
[22:21] <dr_willis> never mind.. ;P
[22:22] <TomodachiRadio> Hey everyone!
[22:22] <snql> hi
[22:22] <crazybrain> dr_willis: i am not able to login
[22:23] <crazybrain> dr_willis: how can i ssh in?
[22:23] <TomodachiRadio> Does any1 from Brazil?
[22:23] <dr_willis> ssh ip.of.server   from a 2nd machine on the lan.. :) if you got ssh server installed
[22:23] <BluesKaj> !br
[22:23] <danlamanna> hey guys, for some reason my default terminal directory is / - same with my emacs - it used to be ~ though, any ideas?
[22:24] <BluesKaj> TomodachiRadio,^
[22:24] <TomodachiRadio> Thanx!
[22:25] <iceroot> danlamanna: what is the output of "whoami" and "echo $HOME"
[22:25] <danlamanna> iceroot: whoami is dan, and $HOME is /home/dan
[22:26] <dr_willis> i wonder if theres a gnome-terminal profile setting that defines the initial directory
[22:26] <danlamanna> i'm actually wondering now, if anything in my https://github.com/danlamanna/Bash-Emacs-Configs/blob/master/.bashrc
[22:26] <dr_willis> or if theres somthing in your .bashrc or .profile cd-ing to someplace
[22:26] <ClientAlive> Is there a release of ubuntu 12.04 which is similar in functinoality to android or win 8 (like what you would find on a net book)? In which the user interface functions similarly?
[22:27] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  lubuntu and kubuntu have  a netbook-interface option..  but ive not used them
[22:27] <dr_willis> i like the normal lubuntu desktop ;)
[22:28] <crazybrain> dr_willis: is there any repair tool for Ubuntu 12.10?
[22:28] <dr_willis> crazybrain:  the grub recovery menu item has a few features. but no idea what all it can fix.
[22:28] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: I see. thx
[22:29] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  there is a way to get chromeos on top of ubuntu :)
[22:30] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: I'll have to check that out. Not familiar with chrome  :)
[22:30] <danlamanna> weird, i've commented out all of .bashrc and .profile and still occurring
[22:30] <dr_willis> danlamanna:  those only get used by the login shell  i belive.
[22:31] <dr_willis> or was i thinking of another file. ;() i get confused ;)
[22:31] <dr_willis> if your initial login did some cd /  - then it may be the root cause.
[22:32] <dr_willis> ive seen cases where you for example use 'startx' from /media/ and everything wanted to start with /media/ as its initial directory
[22:32] <danlamanna> hmm
[22:32] <snql> danlamanna test
[22:32] <snql> sorry
[22:32] <ploot> anyone have experience with upgrade / install issue where I have win7 & ubun12.04 dual booting
[22:33] <ploot> then i upgraded to ubuntu12.10
[22:33] <ploot> and now i get stuck when i try to boot
[22:33] <ploot> and it puts me at grub rescue prompt
[22:33] <ploot> not a big deal
[22:33] <ploot> just that i use the tutorial using the SET command
[22:33] <ploot> set root, set prefix works fine
[22:34] <ploot> set kernel does not
[22:34] <ploot> but i can see the files / directories are there
[22:34] <dr_willis> id just use a live cd and the boot-repair tool and  see if it corrects things
[22:34] <ploot> ok thanks dr_willis
[22:34] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[22:35] <ploot> you're saying I should download ubuntu 12.10 and burn it to a disk and then boot to the disk?
[22:35] <dr_willis> there is a custom made boot-repair cd mentioned on the wiki pages also.
[22:35] <dr_willis> you could try to fix with a 12.04 live cd also if you had one
[22:35] <ploot> gotcha
[22:35] <ploot> thanks much
[22:36] <ploot> ubottu, thanks. that's where I went first and followed the instructions to no avail
[22:36] <drag0nius> anyone knows which of geforce 600 series are broken for multi-monitor in ubuntu?
[22:36] <ploot> lol
[22:37] <dr_willis> nap time for me.. bbl
[22:40] <mathi> hi
[22:40] <mathi> hi, I edited crontab with crontab -e, now are the crontabs automatically launch ?
[22:41] <mathi> *ed
[22:41] <blsh0p> i have a question
[22:41] <blsh0p> will dual booting ubuntu on a mac make it slow in the long run?
[22:41] <genoobie> hey all
[22:41] <IdleOne> no
[22:41] <genoobie> I just installed xubuntu and I am trying to use additional drivers to install the wireless card
[22:42] <genoobie> but it says "downloading and installing driver" for like 10 minutes now
[22:42] <genoobie> how can I tell if it is doing anything
[22:44] <genoobie> any tips?
[22:45] <genoobie> there used to be a lot of traffic on this channel...
[22:46] <drag0nius> what is some GPU confirmed working with multiple monitors under ~170 euros?
[22:46] <daftykins> genoobie: if by traffic you mean peeps demanding help, it comes and goes :>
[22:46] <daftykins> drag0nius: where multplie = 2 ?
[22:46] <sleekm> hi. i installed ubuntu net install and I do not have gdm or lightdm etc. when the computer boots i have to type startx everytime. how can i get it to automatically log me in this way without having to download a login manager. it is only a single user laptop
[22:46] <sleekm> ?
[22:47] <drag0nius> 2 is good, 3 would be best (in future)
[22:47] <drag0nius> i've geforce 560 ti right now, but it's barely starting on 2 monitors
[22:47] <genoobie> daftykins, just making an observation that's all
[22:48] <daftykins> drag0nius: barely starting?
[22:48] <drag0nius> main screen is working pretty good
[22:48] <drag0nius> but its even hard to describe what happens to second ;d
[22:48] <genoobie> anyhow, I'm not sure how to tell if a tool is running or it's "hung"
[22:48] <drag0nius> sometimes its all grey, sometimes all white, sometimes both go off
[22:49] <daftykins> genoobie: use the system monitor to see if the processor load is high
[22:49] <drag0nius> mouse cursor was some weird shape (dont remember which)
[22:49] <genoobie> ok
[22:49] <drag0nius> its common problem with my gpu model
[22:50] <genoobie> daftykins, does not appear to be high.  Task manager is the highest usage
[22:50] <genoobie> however, jockey-gtk is using 1-3%
[22:50] <genoobie> that's the window opened and referring to the "additional driver"
[22:51] <sleekm> hi. i installed ubuntu net install and I do not have gdm or lightdm etc. when the computer boots i have to type startx everytime. how can i get it to automatically log me in this way without having to download a login manager. it is only a single user laptop?
[22:51] <daftykins> genoobie: ah, it silently downloads when you enable drivers so it might be taking time
[22:51] <genoobie> daftykins, >10 mins?
[22:52] <genoobie> any way to check if it is "downloading"?
[22:52] <genoobie> there are a lot of processes
[22:52] <genoobie> that's strange
[22:52] <usr13_> sleekm: That's the way I use my laptop, (I start the GUI manually).
[22:52] <genoobie> there's not really much running
[22:52] <daftykins> genoobie: just kill it and start again then
[22:53] <daftykins> drag0nius: are you using the nvidia driver?
[22:53] <genoobie> from the "task manager" window?
[22:54] <drag0nius> with nvidia driver it didnt even launch gui
[22:54] <genoobie> hmm, I think as soon as lubuntu downloads I am going to try it
[22:54] <drag0nius> and its exactly the same problem for couple ubuntu releases
[22:54] <kokomura> j
[22:54] <genoobie> lubuntu and xubuntu are going to have the same hardware support, correct?
[22:55] <saltmiser> yes
[22:55] <saltmiser> it's the same underlying system
[22:56] <sleekm> usr13_: i understand i am just giving this laptop to my 10 year old niece so wanted it to login auto without a gui. it only has 512mb ram so loading it down with games and just wanted it as slim as possible
[22:56] <sleekm> usr13_: my bad for answering so late
[22:57] <usr13> sleekm: I think  ~/.config/autostart - which is profile (or user), is still honored.
[22:58] <sleekm> usr13_: lol meant to say i want it to login auto into gui. lol
[22:58] <sleekm> ok i will open the file and check out
[23:00] <sleekm> usr13:
[23:00] <sleekm> usr13: this is how the autostart is
[23:00] <sleekm> @lxpanel --profile LXDE @pcmanfm --desktop --profile LXDE @/usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
[23:01] <genoobie> ugh
[23:01] <sleekm> what should i add to auto login to x then without having to login to the black screen prompt first
[23:01] <genoobie> I am pretty sure this thing is "hung" or "hanged"
[23:02] <genoobie> hey all
[23:02] <sleekm> another issue i have is that i need to know what is needed from synaptic for the gnome keyring. i can start synaptic from terminal with password but the gui will not take the password
[23:02] <sleekm> sup genoobie
[23:02] <genoobie> new to this thing, and coming from a winxp world
[23:02] <genoobie> 120 processes seems like a lot
[23:03] <sleekm> genoobie: xp ran more u couldnt see
[23:03] <genoobie> I am running xubuntu which is purported to be fast
[23:03] <genoobie> but it is dragging and hanging
[23:03] <genoobie> not sure why though...
[23:03] <sleekm> genoobie: lubuntu is quicker if u want minimal approach
[23:03] <genoobie> yeah, I use lubuntu on another laptop and it seems ok
[23:03] <genoobie> I mean I like it because it is pretty fast
[23:03] <usr13> sleekm: A file with something like Exec=/usr/bin/startx in it.
[23:04] <genoobie> should I just install lubuntu or try and slim down xubuntu
[23:04] <usr13> sleekm: or Exec=/usr/bin/startxfce4
[23:04] <usr13> sleekm: or Exec=/usr/bin/startlxde
[23:05] <usr13> sleekm: In other words, cut to the chase and start the DE
[23:08] <w0rm-_x> I have Java installed by default, it is an old version, how do I remove it?
[23:14] <fadax> hi
[23:15] <saltmiser> yo
[23:16] <fadax> how do i figure out what packages to install with apt-get, for example if I know I need the c++ library xmlrpc_client how can I find out what package that's in?
[23:16] <saltmiser> packages.ubuntu.org I believe you can browse
[23:16] <saltmiser> unless you want to know the exact apt-get/dpkg command to tell you, that I don't know
[23:18] <sect0r> Hello, I am new to linux/ubuntu.  I installed 12.10, updated it, installed some apps from the sofware center, and rebooted.  Now after I login nothing happens, all I see is the desktop wallpaper and my resolution changed.  Can someone help me?
[23:19] <fadax> ok thanks saltmiser i'll try that
[23:19] <saltmiser> fadax, it used to be packages.debian.org
[23:19] <saltmiser> back in the dizz-ay
[23:19] <saltmiser> sect0r, can you login with any other window manager
[23:20] <saltmiser> sup SolarisBoy
[23:20] <SolarisBoy> hi
[23:20] <saltmiser> do you use Solaris
[23:20] <SolarisBoy> sure
[23:20] <saltmiser> more than Ubuntu
[23:20] <saltmiser> ?
[23:20] <escott> fadax, apt-file can help you find individual files in packages
[23:21] <SolarisBoy> i guess i use ubuntu more often as i use it for a desktop
[23:22] <sect0r> saltmiser; how do i try that
[23:22] <saltmiser> do you ever see the login screen
[23:22] <saltmiser> where you have to login
[23:22] <sect0r> saltmiser; i can bring up a terminal with ctrl+alt+t
[23:23] <sect0r> yes
[23:23] <saltmiser> you have a terminal?
[23:23] <saltmiser> oh that's good
[23:23] <Joe> Hello, I have never used an operating system on a PC other than Windows. I am interested in using Ubunutu on an older computer however I have some questions before I procede
[23:23] <saltmiser> Joe, don't use Ubuntu use Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[23:24] <Joe> I read that Xubuntu and Lubuntu are more fit for computers with outdated hardware?
[23:24] <saltmiser> you read correct!
[23:24] <saltmiser> Lubuntu would be anything pre like 1998
[23:24] <saltmiser> 2000, or so
[23:25] <Joe> When would Xubuntu be? Because mine was probably around 2003
[23:25] <saltmiser> What are the specs?
[23:25] <saltmiser> Ubuntu runs nice if the 3D is supported out of the box
[23:25] <saltmiser> I use Xubuntu on my laptop I bought 2 years ago from walmart
[23:25] <saltmiser> dual-core 1 GHz CPU with 8GB DDR3 1066 RAM
[23:26] <saltmiser> Joe, depending on the specs, you should use Xubuntu
[23:26] <skp1> xfce4 is highlt customizable.
[23:27] <skp1> highly.
[23:27] <sect0r> saltmiser: could it be because I changed the video driver?
[23:27] <zygoptera> saltmiser >> a large percentage of the problem asked about here on the average day revolve are unity. Maybe xubuntu is a better solution for even newer computers?
[23:27] <escott> Joe, you could also try ubuntu in a virtual machine on modern hardware. ie download and install virtualbox on your windows system
[23:28] <saltmiser> zygoptera, considering I used unity once for about 5 minutes before I gave up, yes, I agree
[23:28] <saltmiser> escott, I agree
[23:28] <saltmiser> sect0r, that probably has a lot to do with it
[23:28] <Amphibulus> I have tested unity in the past and I did not like it, but since 12.04 I run unity
[23:28] <Joe> I believe it is a Dell Dimension 4600 which would leave it with Intel Pentium 4 2.8 GHz processor, 512 mb RAM and I'm not sure what other information is necessarry
[23:28] <Amphibulus> and I like it :S
[23:28] <saltmiser> sect0r, what is your video situation?
[23:29] <escott> Joe, and doing so would be both easier to use and a fairer comparison because you will be able to give substantially more resources to the virtual machine than your 2003 laptop
[23:29] <saltmiser> Amphibulus, if I had a touch screen I think unity would be nice.  If unity is what ubuntu is trying to sennd to the smartphones, that would be cool
[23:29] <sect0r> is there a way I can bring up ubuntu system settings from terminal?
[23:29] <saltmiser> sect0r, the terminal is the system settings ;P
[23:29] <saltmiser> I'm not sure what to tell you
[23:29] <saltmiser> do you know how to edit text files
[23:29] <saltmiser> ?
[23:29] <saltmiser> with nano
[23:29] <Amphibulus> saltmiser, I don't have a touch screen, but I don't know what people don't like about it
[23:30] <daftykins> sect0r: what do you want to change?
[23:30] <zygoptera> Joe >> if all your components are linux compatible, that should be sufficient
[23:30] <chuckly> I having trouble installing ubuntu on my motherboard z77 gigabyte
[23:30] <saltmiser> daftykins, he messed up his video, I was going to have him boot X with the vesa driver to get him going
[23:30] <Joe> I am limited with Linux information, how can I learn if my components are compatible?
[23:30] <daftykins> saltmiser: ah ok, sorry didn't realise you were already on that one
[23:30] <sect0r> daftykins: the graphics driver it uses
[23:31] <Amphibulus> Joe buy parts, and if it doesn't work put them in the trash, then repeat
[23:31] <escott> Joe, thats what the install cd/livecd is for
[23:31] <chuckly> I have create a usb stick and only get so far with the initial boot and then stops
[23:31] <saltmiser> Joe, most are. Boot up the live cd and see what happens
[23:31] <Amphibulus> that's what I have done, but now I'm happy with my setup
[23:31] <saltmiser> chuckly, what you mean it stops
[23:31] <daftykins> Joe: there are hardware compatibility lists online
[23:32] <the_mix> chuckly, use universal usb installer
[23:32] <zygoptera> Joe >> a xubuntu live cd is the final way to know.
[23:32] <the_mix> to make it bootable
[23:32] <Joe> Live CD from Ubunutu? I have not purchased anything yet, I have just been looking around when I found an old tower in my basement with a very limited hard drive
[23:32] <Amphibulus> chuckly, I have a z77a msi and it works
[23:32] <saltmiser> Joe you don't purchase anything
[23:33] <chuckly> saltmiser: 12.04.1 64bit uefi I get stripes on the screen after the first boot
[23:33] <escott> !nomodeset | chuckly
[23:33] <Joe> So for a live cd I jsut download the Xubutnu iso image and burn it to a cd?
[23:33] <saltmiser> joe, yes
[23:33] <saltmiser> just like if you were illegally burning a windows cd
[23:34] <saltmiser> same exact procedure
[23:34] <Amphibulus> there is some system that I was unable to install with 12.04.1 but I have able with 12.04... maybe you can give it a try
[23:34] <chuckly> saltmiser: should I boot into uefi or not with 12.04.1
[23:34] <SnapSnap> When I try to perform a backup, I get the following error: "BackendException: Could not initialize backend: No module named couch.auth"
[23:34] <Joe> okay and I am able to do this using a bootable flash drive as well?
[23:34] <saltmiser> chuckly, I don't know what UEFI is unfortunately. I'm just a programmer
[23:34] <zygoptera> Joe >>  yes
[23:34] <saltmiser> Joe indeed you can
[23:35] <Joe> Okay thank you. So Ubuntu is not suggested for my Dimension 4600? Which is more preferred, Xubuntu or Lubuntu?
[23:35] <saltmiser> joe I believe there are decent instructions on the ubuntu website for how to burn an ISO image to a flash drive, the xubuntu procedure would bet he same
[23:35] <chuckly> I will try to boot with nomodeset
[23:35] <OerHeks> !uefi
[23:35] <zygoptera> Xubuntu should be fine
[23:35] <saltmiser> Joe Xubuntu would be preferred.  Lubuntu is for extremely limited computers, i'm talking like Pentium 3's and earlier
[23:35] <chuckly> how do I do this with the live usb
[23:35] <saltmiser> I use XFCE on a 500mhz pentium3 anyway
[23:35] <Amphibulus> saltmiser, do you run 12.04 or 12.10?
[23:36] <saltmiser> so really like pentium 2's and other obscure hardware
[23:36] <saltmiser> cat: /etc/ubuntu-version: No such file or directory
[23:36] <Joe> Okay thank you. What is really the difference between Xubuntu and Ubuntu?
[23:36] <danman1453> just upgraded to 12.04 from 11.10, the gui shows the desktop background, then backs out to a terminal looking screen with no prompt. Just something about mount then unmounting the network filesystems.
[23:36] <escott> Joe, the gui is different
[23:36] <Amphibulus> Joe, X interface
[23:36] <zygoptera> Joe >> it should probably run xubuntu faster than it ran windows
[23:36] <saltmiser> Joe Xubuntu uses a 2D desktop environment like Windows XP and 2000
[23:36] <OerHeks> xubuntu 512 mb, ubuntu 1 gb
[23:37] <saltmiser> Joe Ubuntu uses a 3D environment like windows aero, etc.
[23:37] <lazer> Joe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment (See Unity and Xfce)
[23:37] <danman1453> i can ctl-alt-f1 into tty1 and start startx no problem. but my usb hd isnt mounted. my other local shares are fine.
[23:37] <Amphibulus> So I guess I'm the only one who like Unity
[23:37] <OerHeks> Lubuntu 256 mb
[23:37] <Joe> Okay, will it require the same or possibly less hard drive space than windows? Because I had to use a small hard drive I had laying aroudn to reinstall Windows as my old one stopped functioning
[23:37] <saltmiser> Joe WAy less space
[23:37] <C4zz1dy> Isn't Unity a game engine? ;P
[23:37] <saltmiser> Joe if you have like 4GB that's fine
[23:38] <Joe> Okay thank you very much, I will try to install Xubuntu when I've some spare time. For now I will attempt to learn teh basics of this operating system. Thanks!
[23:38] <saltmiser> Amphibulus, I've been using KDE and XFCE for so long that I just can't adjust to Unity.  I miss GNOME
[23:38] <Amphibulus> Well, it runs nicely here, really fast
[23:38] <escott> C4zz1dy, there is a game named unity as well
[23:38] <danman1453> every time i have upgraded to the latest release, the boot broke. i am going to stop upgrading.
[23:38] <C4zz1dy> seriously?
[23:38] <C4zz1dy> to the googles. brb
[23:38] <zygoptera> Joe >> if you want to get general use from it, I would recommend at least 18gb
[23:38] <escott> C4zz1dy, there is also a game named chromium and it came first so installing chromium is usually not what people want when they want the browser
[23:38] <chuckly> ubottu: the page indicates I need 12.10, so I will do boot without uefi, if I can only work out how to do it
[23:39] <sect0r> saltmiser: yes, I know how to use pico, what file contains the gpu driver information I'm looking for?
[23:39] <saltmiser> Joe, I can tell you the basics in a sentence.  Linux does everything from the command line, aka a terminal.  Learn to use the terminal, and you'll know how to control everything.
[23:39] <escott> chuckly, you can boot efi in 12.04
[23:39] <lazer> (And there are unity linux! I googled!)
[23:39] <saltmiser> sect0r, I was thinking /etc/X11/xorg.conf, that is where X stores it's configuration.  If it is an empty file that means X is autoconfiguring it's self when you start it
[23:39] <SnapSnap> When I try to perform a backup, I get the following error: "BackendException: Could not initialize backend: No module named couch.auth"
[23:39] <sect0r> i checked that, it's empty
[23:39] <Joe> Do you have any advice on where I can learn to sue a terminal?
[23:40] <C4zz1dy> well I know of Chromium..
[23:40] <saltmiser> sect0r, if you can manage to get the X server shut down, some commands you could play with as root include `X -configure` and `X -config /root/my_test_xorg.conf`
[23:40] <Joe> **use
[23:40] <Amphibulus> saltmiser, I just pin the software that I use on the bar, then I search for those that I need, not sure sure what is missing
[23:40] <C4zz1dy> Some galactica looking thing
[23:40] <chuckly> do some more reading then, thanks for your help and patienc
[23:40] <lazer> Joe: Just keep using it and you'll learn that way.
[23:40] <saltmiser> `X -configure` will make an xorg.conf.new file based on the configuration it finds
[23:40] <C4zz1dy> Joe, start by registering on the Ubuntu forums :)
[23:40] <skp1> unity is awesome.
[23:40] <OerHeks> Joe, good start > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[23:40] <saltmiser> when the system boots, X will use /etc/X11/xorg.conf as it's graphics configuration
[23:41] <saltmiser> here you can set up custom resolutions, etc.
[23:41] <Joe> Okay I will give it a shot. Terminal is for Xubuntu as DOS is for Windows?
[23:41] <Amphibulus> skp1, :)
[23:41] <C4zz1dy> The community and help articles are pretty good
[23:41] <saltmiser> but sect0r, if you change the video driver to "vesa" the X server should start.
[23:41] <C4zz1dy> It's a sexier version of CMD
[23:41] <C4zz1dy> lol
[23:41] <saltmiser> sect0r, if you could give me more details on what sort of GPU you're working with I could help more
[23:41] <Joe> Alright haha thanks!
[23:41] <saltmiser> I've delt with both nvidia and ati
[23:42] <saltmiser> Joe, don't forget that Ubuntu isn't the only distro in the world
[23:42] <saltmiser> Joe, OpenSUSE is another nice one
[23:42] <saltmiser> you might like Kubuntu if you're not underestimating your laptop's capabilities
[23:42] <C4zz1dy> Kubuntu too
[23:42] <sect0r> saltmiser, thanks for your help, i fixed it. ran software-properties-gtk from the terminal window I got to open and switched it back to the old driver.
[23:42] <C4zz1dy> and Mint..though Ubuntu still my fave.
[23:42] <saltmiser> sect0r sweet. I don't actually use ubuntu, I use gentoo :P
[23:43] <zygoptera> saltmiser >> dell dimension 4600 specs here ... http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim4600/en/4600/sm/specs.htm
[23:43] <Joe> Do you prefer one over the other for lightness? I am looking for a quick Operating System that will run smoothly
[23:43] <saltmiser> my "work laptop" runs ubuntu and I use ubuntu server a lot so, figured I'd hang out here
[23:43] <saltmiser> runs xubuntu, that is ;D
[23:43] <saltmiser> Joe xubuntu will run pretty quick
[23:43] <aeon-ltd> Joe: got time? arch or ubuntu server. start from scratch just install the stuff you need
[23:44] <saltmiser> you can have gentoo compile every source file specifically for your computer's processor
[23:44] <aeon-ltd> Joe: you can't get leaner than that without recompiling every package
[23:44] <saltmiser> pretty much
[23:44] <saltmiser> arch always seemed really snappy for 32 bit machiens
[23:44] <saltmiser> since xubuntu compiles for 386 still
[23:44] <Joe> I am not sure how I would install the stuff I need. I have never used an operating system on my desktop computer other than Windows so I am looking for a Linux operating system to learn on
[23:44] <saltmiser> arch linux compiles for the 686
[23:45] <SnapSnap> When I try to perform a backup, I get the following error: "BackendException: Could not initialize backend: No module named couch.auth"
[23:45] <saltmiser> Joe, you can get your feet wet with xubuntu
[23:45] <escott> !apt | Joe
[23:45] <aeon-ltd> latest kernel dropped i386 a while ago
[23:45] <zygoptera> Joe >> According to your system specs, you could possibly do a memory upgrade to 1gb. If it is cheap enough, it might be advisable
[23:45] <saltmiser> aeon-ltd, sorry, does it build for 686 yet or just 486
[23:45] <chuckly> managed to get it booting with live usb however freezes ast freeing unused kernel memory
[23:45] <aeon-ltd> saltmiser: arch?
[23:45] <C4zz1dy> If you're looking for one to learn on, i'd suggest an out of box install first..
[23:45] <saltmiser> aeon-ltd, ubuntu
[23:45] <Joe> Could I get Xubuntu running on it withotu the memory upgrade? If I can tes tit out and I like it, I will possibly upgrade to enhance performance
[23:46] <saltmiser> C4zz1dy, yes an out-of-box install of xubuntu for Joe's older dell laptop
[23:46] <zygoptera> Joe >> yes. Just advisable for the long run
[23:46] <C4zz1dy> oh lol
[23:46] <aeon-ltd> saltmiser: it builds for 686 i think, but you can still use 486. let me google.
[23:46] <C4zz1dy> didn't read that
[23:46] <jarray52> Is the AOC E1649FWU supported on Ubuntu 12.10 in conjunction with a VGA monitor? It's a USB monitor that uses the displaylink driver?
[23:46] <saltmiser> Joe I used xubuntu on a 500 MHz Pentium 3 with 512MB of ram
[23:46] <C4zz1dy> yea try it out with something affordable first
[23:46] <Joe> I will consider it once I get up and running. I will most likely install Xubuntu to learn Linux basics as I've not the slightest clue on a Linux based operating ssytem at this time
[23:47] <C4zz1dy> It's okay, a lot of us are still finding our way around
[23:47] <aeon-ltd> saltmiser: just 386 is dropped, not 486
[23:47] <jarray52> Joe: have you used a Mac before?
[23:47] <saltmiser> Joe, once you get the ropes of driving ubuntu from the command line, you'll be ready for arch linux and gentoo. this may take years however :P
[23:48] <C4zz1dy> lol
[23:48] <Joe> I have used a Mac maybe 3 times to check an E-Mail or look up something on Google :p
[23:48] <C4zz1dy> you mean it WILL take years ;D
[23:48] <C4zz1dy> HAH
[23:48] <Joe> When I said I was clueless on Linuxs based operating systems, I meant it!
[23:48] <escott> aeon-ltd, ubuntu is compiled for 586 or 686 these days
[23:49] <Joe> I believe my Android smartphone uses a Linux based operating system, however I'm not much into the operating system yet :p
[23:49] <aeon-ltd> C4zz1dy: no, learn fast. you'll learn faster by diving into arch. if you can run a vm you can get a little testing playground to work with.
[23:50] <saltmiser> Joe, your fastest, best computer that is personal. does it run windows 7 and was it made after 2010?
[23:50] <Amphibulus> saltmiser, I run ubuntu on a E3-1230v2, 32gb ram with an SSD and a GTX660 with 4 monitors, no lag so far
[23:50] <SnapSnap> When I try to perform a backup, I get the following error: "BackendException: Could not initialize backend: No module named couch.auth"
[23:50] <saltmiser> Joe because if it is new enough, you should install Virtualbox or VMWareplayer on it and you can install computers in there
[23:50] <saltmiser> including windows
[23:50] <Joe> My fastest, best personal computer is my Windows 8 laptop bought right after release
[23:51] <C4zz1dy> Holy crap Amphibulus talk about beastly overkill
[23:51] <saltmiser> Amphibulus, lol but the compiled code is it taking advantage of all the assembly instructiosn your wicked CPU supports?
[23:51] <saltmiser> it _could_ run faster :P :P
[23:51] <Joe> Well my only real reason for switching operating systems is so I can begin using my old tower again
[23:51] <zygoptera> Joe >> looking at your system specs {radeon 9800 video, intel eepro ethernet} should be fine. I am still looking for what sound card you have
[23:51] <chuckly> removed graphics card and it works
[23:51] <saltmiser> Joe I can dig that
[23:51] <C4zz1dy> there's only one reason for 4 screens...
[23:51] <aeon-ltd> C4zz1dy: needs more overclocking...
[23:52] <saltmiser> Joe that Pentium 3 I keep talking about from 1997 I still use. it runs FreeBSD though
[23:52] <Amphibulus> I have 4 X Asus PA238Q
[23:52] <saltmiser> AMD Phenom II X6 3.0 GHz
[23:52] <C4zz1dy> go home Bill Gates, you're drunk
[23:52] <saltmiser> but that has windows booted right now
[23:52] <saltmiser> with ubuntu-server running in a VM
[23:53] <saltmiser> BUT EVERYBODY this is just a transition from arch linux to gentoo for it. the system has 3 hard drives, windows takes up 2 of 'em :P
[23:53] <Joe> Hmm, what do you suggest for a simple operating system to learn the basics of Linux on?
[23:53] <saltmiser> Joe, FreeBSD, but that ain't even Linux
[23:53] <lolcat> Hello
[23:53] <C4zz1dy> hey saltmiser, i've never used ubuntu-server or arch..what're their purposes?
[23:53] <lolcat> How may I mount a wubi .disk image?
[23:53] <aeon-ltd> Joe: basics?=command line?
[23:53] <escott> Joe, but why? if your interest is making an informed judgement about how much you like linux as a desktop OS you should use a VM on your existing system
[23:53] <C4zz1dy> wubi is an .exe installer
[23:53] <saltmiser> escott, no he just wants to use his old tower for soemthing
[23:54] <saltmiser> because windows 98 is useless
[23:54] <C4zz1dy> it's great for powerdorking in IT consultant interviews
[23:54] <escott> Joe, if you just want to toy around with old hardware or have some task that needs limited computational capabilities then using the old machine makes sense
[23:54] <Joe> Basics as in browsing the Internet basics, I've used nothing other than a Windows really haha
[23:54] <lolcat> Please, I need to check this image
[23:54] <saltmiser> Joe when you get it all installed, use google chrome or chromium as the browser, it runs the best
[23:54] <aeon-ltd> Joe: browsers are the same across all oses
[23:54] <escott> Joe, i wouldn't even use a machine from 2003 for browsing the web
[23:55] <saltmiser> C4zz1dy, ubuntu-server, arch linux and freebsd all come with "nothing" installed, no GUI, etc.
[23:55] <escott> Joe, there is too much flash and too much video and too much javascript and too much memory usage
[23:55] <escott> Joe, websites use opengl these days...
[23:55] <saltmiser> C4zz1dy, sometimes I just need a unix shell to do some programming from, doesn't really matter what the OS is and I don't need a gUI
[23:55] <C4zz1dy> oh..
[23:55] <saltmiser> many people like me don't need a GUI
[23:55] <C4zz1dy> so how does one even get "started" with that? :P
[23:55] <saltmiser> just on the computer in front of them
[23:55] <zygoptera> escoot >> I do. I have plenty of computing power, more than enough for linux web browsinh
[23:55] <Joe> A memory upgrade would not be worth it then?
[23:56] <aeon-ltd> saltmiser: wuuuuuuut, file management sucks with guis
[23:56] <aeon-ltd> *without
[23:56] <saltmiser> like I have one computer in front of me running Xubuntu.  But I have about 3 more I'm working with that have no GUI
[23:56] <k1l_> C4zz1dy: ubuntu-server comes without a desktop preinstalled.
[23:56] <saltmiser> aeon-ltd, please, file management is a snap without a gui
[23:56] <escott> Joe, im just questioning the wisdom of this from the perspective of "i want to learn about linux" if you want to learn about linux i would go the VM route
[23:56] <C4zz1dy> aeon-ltd, he's from the matrix :P
[23:56] <saltmiser> easier than with a GUI
[23:56] <Amphibulus> I have 32gb ram it's usefull when you spin up lot of dev box
[23:56] <aeon-ltd> saltmiser: drag/drop > mv
[23:56] <saltmiser> escott, let the man use his ancient tower damnit
[23:56] <namesJay> Hello ppl
[23:56] <saltmiser> aeon-ltd, are you kidding
[23:56] <C4zz1dy> i can't even navigate my download folder on Windows..
[23:56] <saltmiser> aeon-ltd, I write programs to do my file management
[23:56] <saltmiser> python and common lisp
[23:56] <zygoptera> escott >> Joe's machine came standard witha 128mg radeon 9800, It can web browse
[23:57] <saltmiser> hell I used to use common lisp as my login shell
 escott, let the man use his ancient tower damnit
[23:57] <Amphibulus> anybody have experience with chef or puppet?
[23:57] <Joe> I am interested in using an old machine for light use. When I said I wanted to learn Linux, I meant the basics and later on maybe get more detailed. I am just looking to put this old tower to some use for the time being
[23:57] <crumychrome> or chroubuntu?
[23:57] <saltmiser> Joe, I understand!
[23:57] <saltmiser> Joe, escott doesn't :P
[23:58] <k1l_> Amphibulus: ask a direct question if its ubuntu support related
[23:58] <C4zz1dy> Yea Joe, go try the distros saltmiser advised :)
[23:58] <saltmiser> Joe, you have a feeling, an itch to fire that old computer up, probably just because it's old, and of all the old things you have that you don't use anymore; this computer is the best example. I totally feel you.
[23:58] <saltmiser> C4zz1dy, he's not ready for those
[23:58] <k1l_> Joe: go with Lubuntu or Xubuntu
[23:58] <saltmiser> you only need those if you live breath and sleep unix
[23:58] <k1l_> Joe: Lubuntu is for slower hardware.
[23:58] <C4zz1dy> I meant the ones u advised for him
[23:58] <C4zz1dy> like eaaaarlier
[23:58] <saltmiser> C4zz1dy, like xubuntu? yeah
[23:59] <C4zz1dy> yep ^^
[23:59] <k1l_> !lubuntu | Joe
[23:59] <aeon-ltd> ok, lets solve this with a vote, i vote lubuntu.
[23:59] <saltmiser> I vote xubuntu
[23:59] <TheLordOfTime> aeon-ltd, lets not.
[23:59] <crumychrome> i'm a previous windows user - i just installed ubuntu 12.4 onto my chromebook c710....
[23:59] <C4zz1dy> Xubuntu
[23:59] <TheLordOfTime> !poll | aeon-ltd
[23:59] <saltmiser> lubuntu will give the man a bad impression of what Linux GUI's can provide to the user who wants a simple experience
[23:59] <saltmiser> Lubuntu is too simple
[23:59] <saltmiser> and doesn't look that great either
[23:59] <Joe> that is exactly my feeling :p I just wanna test it out because I started up Windows XP on it and it's terribly slow, I will be installing Xubunutu on it soon and learning the very basic of a Linux operatin system on it
[23:59] <namesJay> 30 m here ...any lady wanna chat?