[00:04] <audio222> Anyone know of a browser extension that captures audio from a livestream?
[00:06] <YankDownUnder> audio222: Doesn't some of the FF extensions cover that?
[00:06] <audio222> Maybe
[00:06] <audio222> I'm looking
[00:07] <audio222> Can't find anything though
[00:08] <audio222> Trying to save audio from a livestream using either a browser extension or desktop application
[00:08] <Ben64> what is 'a livestream'
[00:09] <audio222> @Ben64 live audio streamed online
[00:09] <Ben64> duh, get more specific
[00:10] <YankDownUnder> audio222: Seems to be "Livestream Downloader" for Chrome...and "Videograbber" for FF appears to do the same...
[00:10] <audio222> @ben64 not sure what else you want to know
[00:10] <YankDownUnder> audio222: ...and "Livestream Downloader" is also for FF
[00:10] <Ben64> then i can't help you
[00:12] <audio222> @ben64 I'm looking to capture a live audio stream from my browser and save it for playback at a later date
[00:12] <foxpup> audio222: video downloadhelper, an addon to ff
[00:12] <Ben64> yes, you're repeating the tiny bit of information you already said
[00:12] <MuffinMedic> Hey guys. I'm using Ubuntu <IP_ADDRESS> and every minuet my SSH session (to the Linux machine) freezes up for a few seconds. I was able to track it down a bit and it seems systemd is showing CPU spikes of 60-70% for ~2-3 seconds at the 30 second mark of every minute. How do I further narrow down the issue?
[00:13] <Ben64> MuffinMedic: atop, htop, top, iotop, etc
[00:13] <MuffinMedic> Ben64: i did. it freezes up when those run though so I miss what's actually happenign
[00:13] <Ben64> run it locally on the machine and watch it
[00:13] <MuffinMedic> Will try, thanks.
[00:14] <audio222> @ben64 what more information do you need?
[00:15] <Enigma27> hola
[00:16] <Enigma27> hola desti
[00:17] <MuffinMedic> found it Ben64 , i think
[00:18] <Ben64> MuffinMedic: what is it
[00:18] <alin> bye
[00:18] <alin> just installed ubuntu and xchat
[00:18] <MuffinMedic> well i'm seeing a 50% CPU spike with ZNC right before the systemd spike happens
[00:18] <alin> best irc client
[00:18] <littebird> good morning
[00:18] <MuffinMedic> i gotta ask the ZNC def what would be doing that
[00:18] <nacc> alin: xchat is deprecated and not supported; i believe hexchat is the replacement
[00:18] <MuffinMedic> thanks for the help
[00:19] <Ben64> 50% cpu shouldn't mess with ssh
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[00:19] <nacc> kaiser: stop that.
[00:19] <kaiser> nacc: pft.
[00:19] <bazhang> kaiser, take the games elsewhere
[00:20] <kaiser> bazhang: shut it
[00:20] <kaiser> it was a accident
[00:20] <bazhang> kaiser, this is ubuntu support only, please stay on topic and be civil
[00:20] <nacc> kaiser: ok, just say that right away -- it's hard to distinguish and we get lots of spammers
[00:21] <kaiser> bazhang: did you not understand "it was a accident"?
[00:22] <azizLIGHT> how to make raid 1 as a noob
[00:22] <azizLIGHT> i have two identical hdd
[00:22] <azizLIGHT> already
[00:23] <azizLIGHT> and two slots for hdd
[00:23] <azizLIGHT> it is not for my /
[00:23] <azizLIGHT> it is for data and backup
[00:23] <nacc> azizLIGHT: use mdadm
[00:24] <azizLIGHT> is it software raid?
[00:24] <nacc> azizLIGHT: yes
[00:24] <nacc> azizLIGHT: i'm presuming you don't have a raid controller, as you didn't mention it
[00:24] <azizLIGHT> i dont think i have it
[00:25] <azizLIGHT> im curious of the data transfer from my old hdds tho
[00:25] <azizLIGHT> how does it work?
[00:25] <nacc> azizLIGHT: i don't understand what you're asking?
[00:25] <nacc> azizLIGHT: putting a RAID1 on existing disks will erase them
[00:25] <azizLIGHT> ive got 3 slots for hdds, 1 is my ssd containing /.... 2 and 3 slots are occupied by 1tb hdds with existing data.... and now i ve got 2x 4tb hdds that i intended to use for raid 1
[00:26] <azizLIGHT> so how will i move hte data from 1tbb hdds to the 4tbb hdds in raid
[00:26] <OerHeks> without proper raid controller, softraid will undo performance as it takes cpu + mem
[00:26] <azizLIGHT> is that bad, im only storing documents and movies
[00:26] <azizLIGHT> all my good stuff is on my ssd
[00:26] <Ben64> you probably don't want raid
[00:27] <azizLIGHT> i want to save my stuff safely tho?
[00:27] <nacc> azizLIGHT: you would copy them, just like anything else, i guess -- but i'm going afk, hopefully these folks can help
[00:27] <Ben64> raid isn't backup
[00:28] <azizLIGHT> here it says "There are two purposes of RAID:  Prevent data loss in case of drive failure: For example RAID 1, RAID 5, RAID 6, and RAID 10." on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[00:28] <azizLIGHT> hmm?
[00:28] <Ben64> right, that doesn't say backup
[00:29] <azizLIGHT> prevent data loss? if one hdd dies, you have the 2nd copy from raid 1
[00:30] <azizLIGHT> if both die you screwd but lets ignore
[00:30] <tgm4883> raid is for high availability, not backup
[00:30] <azizLIGHT> so i dont need raid?
[00:30] <Ben64> drive failure is the only thing it helps with
[00:30] <Ben64> doesn't help with corrupt files, deleting things on accident, other stuff
[00:31] <Ben64> if you need a backup, use the 2nd drive to back stuff up to
[00:32] <azizLIGHT> hmm
[00:37] <Spaceboy> Hello
[00:37] <anamik> Hi, could someone help me here I am having some issues trying to install anything essentially I tried to installed Kali linux tools to my ubuntu-mate using Katoolin and after that everything went bad... also before this I had kali install which changed the bootloader now when i am trying to install ubuntu via USB nothing happens
[00:37] <Spaceboy> what do your bios look like?
[00:37] <anamik> im new to linux and all would really appreciate any help that I can get I searched around google already cant seem to find any fix
[00:38] <anamik> bios is the normal one from HP
[00:38] <anamik> i set it up so that USB loads first etc as well
[00:38] <anamik> turned on legacy mode etc as instructed
[00:38] <Spaceboy> do you only have a usb of your OS?
[00:38] <anamik> initially when i was trying to install ubuntu-mate it worked just fine
[00:39] <anamik> well I am trying to just install ubuntu-desktop normal one
[00:39] <anamik> but i tried and just cant figure out the issue
[00:39] <Spaceboy> do you have any access to the terminal?
[00:39] <anamik> https://hastebin.com/futedoxutu.sql
[00:40] <anamik> on startup?
[00:40] <Spaceboy> You say everything has gone bad, do you no longer have an OS?
[00:40] <anamik> umm no it loads up kali screen and says ubuntu-mate for selection of OS and advanced mode which loads up grub 2 or something
[00:40] <anamik> i have an os but i cant seem to be able to install anything
[00:41] <Spaceboy> I'm not sure I know enough to help you past here, anamik, I'm sorry
[00:41] <bazhang> anamik, which OS is that
[00:41] <anamik> im on Ubuntu-Mate right now
[00:42] <anamik> trying to convert over to Ubuntu-Desktop
[00:42] <bazhang> anamik, which version
[00:42] <anamik> umm 16.04 i believe
[00:42] <bazhang> anamik, what about apt install ubuntu-desktop
[00:42] <bazhang> use sudo anamik
[00:43] <anamik> i did it does the following: https://hastebin.com/futedoxutu.sql
[00:43] <bazhang> anamik, are you using caps in that
[00:43] <anamik> no
[00:43] <bazhang> anamik, open a terminal
[00:44] <anamik> its up
[00:44] <bazhang> sudo apt update
[00:44] <bazhang> run that first anamik
[00:44] <anamik> ok its running
[00:45] <bazhang> let it complete
[00:45] <anamik> https://hastebin.com/xalebeduvu.sql
[00:45] <bazhang> anamik, do you have more than one instance of apt running
[00:45] <anamik> no
[00:45] <anamik> i dont think i do atleast
[00:46] <anamik> just have 1 terminal open
[00:46] <anamik> i did however install Kali Linux's tools to ubuntu-mate using katoolin
[00:46] <Ben64> "I tried to installed Kali linux tools to my ubuntu-mate using Katoolin and after that everything went bad"
[00:46] <anamik> which causes a lot of problem
[00:46] <Ben64> well theres your problem.
[00:47] <bazhang> anamik, why the .sql on that paste
[00:47] <Spaceboy> woah, de jas vou
[00:47] <bazhang> anamik, just use the ubuntu pastebin
[00:47] <anamik> no idea hastebin is doing that
[00:47] <bazhang> anamik, so use the one we just suggested here
[00:48] <Ben64> bunch of ppas and a debian repo too
[00:48] <anamik> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24317073/
[00:48] <anamik> thats the right one im assuming?
[00:48] <bazhang> in addition to some strange kali installer?
[00:49] <anamik> https://github.com/LionSec/katoolin
[00:49] <anamik> that
[00:49] <anamik> so basically instead of installing kali itself i tried using katoolin to install its tool set
[00:49] <bazhang> anamik, why would you add debian repos
[00:50] <anamik> bazhang, no idea new to linux just playing around trying to learn as much as I can really
[00:50] <bazhang> anamik, I hope you have full backups
[00:51] <anamik> no but i dont care about the data
[00:51] <anamik> its all in dropbox
[00:51] <transhuman_> hi is there any modern 2016-2017 method so creating a bootable freedos usb stick from ubuntu
[00:51] <anamik> if i can honestly just wipe this out and start over that would be awesome
[00:51] <bazhang> anamik, then do a full reinstall, using only the ubuntu supported repos
[00:52] <SpaceDeliveryBoy> he has usb boot issues
[00:52] <anamik> but when i load up a bootable USB of ubuntu it just does not do load up to install
[00:52] <anamik> it jumps to OS selection screen and jumps into ubuntu-mate itself
[00:52] <bazhang> anamik, first things first, let's get a proper usb installer
[00:53] <anamik> ok so the way i created the usb installer is by using the dd command
[00:53] <anamik> as i read online atleast
[00:53] <bazhang> anamik, that means following this ONE issue to its completion, then on to the next
[00:53] <anamik> ok
[00:54] <transhuman_> never mind I will use dd and FreeDosUSB image
[00:54] <anamik> should i use dd command to create a bootable usb again or some other method?
[00:54] <bazhang> anamik, if you are going to go the route of adding odd unsupported things like debian repos, etc, that will not be supported here
[00:55] <anamik> oh it was not my intension at all
[00:55] <bazhang> anamik, ditto with some odd blogs recommending this that or the other
[00:55] <anamik> just new to linux so i guess i "played" to much
[00:56] <bazhang> anamik, better to play in a vm, and have a stable system to fall back on
[00:56] <anamik> hmm so basically follow ubuntu wiki only
[00:56] <anamik> lesson learned lol
[00:56] <Ben64> basically don't add 3rd party software
[00:56] <anamik> ok
[00:56] <Ben64> the ubuntu repositories have pretty much everything you could need
[00:56] <bazhang> katoolin sounds terrible
[00:57] <anamik> it is
[00:57] <anamik> one thing btw
[00:57] <bazhang> and you are asking why you have issues here
[00:57] <SpaceDeliveryBoy> What does Katoolin allow you to achieve?
[00:57] <anamik> so while trying to fix the issue yesterday ofcourse i tried to remove katoolin
[00:57] <bazhang> installs some kali tools, apparently
[00:58] <anamik> and landed on this page which i TRIED to follow but could not find the information required for ubuntu-mate http://askubuntu.com/questions/708836/removing-katoolin-from-ubuntu-14-04
[00:58] <bazhang> anamik, thats over, did you want to start fresh, with a stable install
[00:58] <anamik> SpaceDeliveryBoy, well it was suppose to help install the tools that are packaged in Kali into a ubuntu desktop
[00:58] <anamik> bazhang, absolutely
[00:59] <Ben64> what tools do you need from kali
[00:59] <bazhang> anamik, do you have a reliable ubuntu iso
[00:59] <anamik> Ben64, dont need any as i said im learning linux new to this world so was following some videos trying new things
[00:59] <bazhang> ubuntu via yt
[01:00] <anamik> bazhang, i have ubunty 17.04
[01:00] <bazhang> anamik, thats not released, nor supported on this channel yet
[01:00] <anamik> thats the bleeding edge i believe so should i rather download stable one?
[01:01] <bazhang> anamik, did you want something stable with five years support, or the latest with a 9month support
[01:02] <anamik> bazhang, whichever platform would be stable enough for me to focus on learning and once i have gained enough knowledge ofcourse i can play at that point
[01:02] <bazhang> then get 16.04 anamik
[01:02] <anamik> ok
[01:02] <anamik> let me download that
[01:03] <anamik> it should go fast i have high speed thank god
[01:03] <anamik> thanks so much btw
[01:06] <Redrield> To whomever was helping me earlier
[01:07] <Redrield> The f keys you mentioned to get into the one time boot menu didn't work
[01:18] <anamik> bazhang, btw quick question just because i tried to install cinnamon with ubuntu-mate before, unity8, is that something I should consider installing once ubuntu 16.04 is installed properly on my laptop?
[01:20] <bazhang> anamik, up to you, if thats what you like
[01:21] <anamik> bazhang, ah ok but thats part of ubuntu package itself im assuming thus its safe
[01:21] <anamik> dont want to do something stupid again lol
[01:21] <anamik> ok so the software is downloaded should I run the dd command?
[01:23] <Bashing-om> !md5sum | anamik Cheap insurance :
[01:29] <caine> any one here
[01:29] <bazhang> ubuntu support issue caine ?
[01:30] <caine> yeah
[01:43] <spyjake12> Hi everyone!
[01:43] <spyjake12> :-D
[01:45] <Didact69> so, I installed the desktop ubuntu 16.04 and since it's primary purpose is to NAT my internet, is there some things I need to/can do to change settings to improve network/server performance?
[01:48] <farchanjo> Didact69: what do u want to improve?
[01:49] <farchanjo> maybe a caching like squid?
[01:50] <farchanjo> :P
[01:51] <Didact69> latency between my PC and the internet
[01:52] <Ben64> Didact69: i wouldn't use ubuntu for that. why not get a router?
[01:52] <Didact69> will likely do that soon
[01:53] <farchanjo> Didact69: if your internet company is not good, you cannot do anything.. you should replace it. NAT is tecnics, just it.
[01:53] <spyjake12> Hi everyone! I'm back
[01:53] <Didact69> tecnics?
[01:54] <spyjake12> What's the discussion right now?
[01:54] <farchanjo> or network tecnology.. does a matter..
[01:54] <Ben64> spyjake12: same as always, ubuntu support
[01:54] <spyjake12> Hehe!
[01:54] <farchanjo> Didact69: nat is going mascarade all your private network to your public ip
[01:54] <farchanjo> just it
[01:54] <farchanjo> nothing else
[01:55] <spyjake12> I've never used a IRC Chat until today, this is cool though
[01:55] <Didact69> farchanjo: yes, and I'm wondering if there are kernel settings that I should change to improve "service" peformance over desktop, etc...
[01:55] <Didact69> so far the answer seems no
[01:56] <farchanjo> you dont have anything to do bro..
[01:56] <Didact69> Is lightdm the prefered lighter DE?
[01:56] <farchanjo> maybe if you have 1gigs of internet and using all these traffic, you could use close some core for better interrrupts
[01:56] <farchanjo> but if you have a larger traffic
[01:56] <farchanjo> i used it few times
[01:57] <farchanjo> on firewalls
[01:57] <Ben64> Didact69: it seems like you want to do router stuff on a computer, why install a desktop version?
[01:57] <Ben64> and really, why not just use a router
[01:57] <spyjake12> Try running speedtest (http://www.speedtest.net/) and tell me what you get
[01:57] <Didact69> Ben64: I used the desktop install, because I use it as a desktop and a server/router
[01:57] <farchanjo> I agree with ben.. if you wanna learning iptables ok.. but for latency, you don’t have anything for to do
[01:57] <Ben64> Didact69: the first thing you said was "primary purpose is to NAT my internet"
[01:58] <Didact69> I was wondering if there was a reason to tweak some things to improve service performance over desktop
[01:58] <Didact69> it seems the answer is no
[01:58] <Ben64> you said that already
[01:58] <Ben64> you're still not answering the questions
[01:58] <spyjake12> What are you all trying to do maybe I can help
[01:59] <Didact69> yes, what's your point ?
[01:59] <chatter29> hey guys
[01:59] <chatter29> allah is doing
[01:59] <chatter29> sun is not doing allah is doing
[01:59] <spyjake12> Hi chatter29!
[01:59] <chatter29> to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger
[01:59] <spyjake12> No politics/religion chatter29, please. This is a Support Discussion.
[02:01] <Didact69> is lightdm and lubuntu the same thing?
[02:01] <Ben64> no
[02:01] <spyjake12> Nope
[02:01] <spyjake12> LightDM has something to do with Gnome I think
[02:01] <spyjake12> Not completely sure though
[02:02] <farchanjo> lightdm is interface manager..
[02:02] <farchanjo> maybe light display manager
[02:02] <farchanjo> :P
[02:02] <Didact69> k, lxde = lubuntu ?
[02:02] <farchanjo> yep
[02:02] <Didact69> k, I'll check that out, thanks
[02:03] <spyjake12> How do I reinstall unity
[02:03] <spyjake12> I'm using the XFCE interface right now
[02:03] <spyjake12> cos I was stupid and deleted it
[02:04] <spyjake12> :P
[02:04] <farchanjo> interface question I cannot awsnwer.. sorry
[02:04] <spyjake12> I need to go for a while, I'll be back!
[02:04] <spyjake12> :-)
[02:05] <katakaio> spyjake12: have you tried to install ubuntu-desktop from a terminal?
[02:12] <eperez> Hello all
[02:12] <JeanSprouts> lm-sensors only shows one fan and it seems to only have a range of 900-1100RPM. Is this typical of CPU fans?
[02:13] <eperez> Does anybody know how to ensure a hdd is seen by the ubuntu installer. Can't seem to be able to select the drive for installation. Used Gparted and tried many formats (ext3, ext4), but to no avail
[02:15] <coffeeguy> hey OerHeks thanks again for that link to l2go it's amazing
[02:16] <coffeeguy> x2go*
[02:17] <spyjake12> okay. I'm back (again).
[02:24] <kadoban> JeanSprouts: Sounds like a ballpark reasonable RPM
[02:24] <kadoban> Not sure though, might be a tad high. *shrug*
[02:52] <DookieMan> Hi! Is anybody available to help me fix a mouse issue on 16.10?
[02:52] <PipeItToDevNull> What is the issue
[02:53] <DookieMan> My mouse gets stuck on some "invisible" obstacle when I move it to the left side of the screen
[02:53] <DookieMan> the edge
[02:53] <DookieMan> it's really weird. It gets stuck on something for 2 seconds and then continues to move in the general direction I was trying to move it in
[02:58] <obs3331> Is it possible to install OBS in ubuntu 12, I do not want to upgrade 14 now
[02:59] <zealsham_> why am i stuck on "awaiting headers" on my 4.0.4 when running apt-get updates
[02:59] <zealsham_> 14.0.4 i meant
[03:01] <zealsham_> i keep getting "awaiting headers" and they failed to fetch errors when i run apt-get updates
[03:04] <manfer> whot
[03:05] <YankDownUnder> zealsham_: Have you tried either restarting your network or rebooting - and then trying this all over again? Just wondering.
[03:05] <zealsham_> manfer: i cant use apt-get updates
[03:06] <zealsham_> YankDownUnder: i tried that doesnt work
[03:06] <YankDownUnder> zealsham_: Right oh...so, you've done the: "sudo apt-get update" -> and let it sit for a while? Like for a few minutes?
[03:08] <zealsham_> YankDownUnder: i run the command and it start updating packages and then it gets to a point where it is stuck on 'awaiting headers"
[03:09] <above> how important are internal firewalls when were behind a nat? im in a rural area away from anyone, and don't care much, so is it okay to disable it since my router has one?
[03:10] <YankDownUnder> zealsham_: It would appear to be hanging on a particular PPA source...have you added any PPA's recently?
[03:10] <above> im not much into security, but i trust this lan.
[03:10] <zealsham_> yes i added
[03:11] <zealsham_> YankDownUnder: its been two months and am still stuck on this same issue
[03:11] <YankDownUnder> zealsham_: Something to consider is to "comment out" the PPA's you've added, do the update, and one by one, uncomment the PPA's to find out which one is freaking out your update...
[03:12] <zealsham_> YankDownUnder: i should uncheck the ppa?
[03:12] <YankDownUnder> zealsham_: Is it only one?
[03:13] <zealsham_> i got lots of ppa
[03:14] <YankDownUnder> zealsham_: Uncheck all the ones you've added yourself. Do an update. Then one by one, re-add the PPA sources until you find the one that hangs. THEN you'll have solved the mystery, my friend.
[03:14] <zealsham_> thanks ill try that
[03:15] <YankDownUnder> zealsham_: Coolbeans.
[03:18] <obs3331> does ppa="personal digital assistance"
[03:19] <Harris> I want to make a custom install of elementary os which is based on ubuntu... is there a ubuntu base file that has 0 programs installed just the os
[03:20] <YankDownUnder> PPA...a "PDA" is a "personal digital assistant"...so PPA means "personal package archive"
[03:21] <YankDownUnder> Harris: That would be a lovely question to ask in the dev channel - as they're able to point you to how to create a "base" and customise it from that point...
[03:23] <ivan_> Harris: debootstrap --variant=minbase, or alternatively mark almost everything auto-installed and run autoremove --purge
[03:23] <ivan_> there is no clear "just the os" boundary so that will take a few days of learning what all the packages do
[03:24] <_28Kb> isn't ubuntu core OS what Harris asks for?
[03:25] <ivan_> does anyone actually run ubuntu core OS on a desktop? is there a snap for everything?
[03:26] <_28Kb> not yet... snaps are mostly in development at this point
[03:26] <Bashing-om> ivan_: Sure !
[03:26] <toshiba_lethal> me,too
[03:26] <Bashing-om> !minimal | ivan_
[03:27] <zealsham_> YankDownUnder: got same errors
[03:28] <ivan_> minimal != core os
[03:28] <zealsham_> YankDownUnder:   Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/main/source/Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[03:28] <zealsham_> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[03:28] <ivan_> zealsham_: your wifi is probably being MITMed by your ISP
[03:28] <ivan_> s/wifi/internet/
[03:28] <ivan_> check an http:// page in your browser and see if you see anything strange
[03:29] <SpaceDeliveryBoy> Salutations
[03:29] <YankDownUnder> zealsham_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[03:29] <Bashing-om> ivan_: The minimal install gives you only a booting kernel and minimal networking . all else you must add .
[03:29] <zealsham_> ivan_:  browsing works fine
[03:30] <ivan_> zealsham_: try loading http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/main/source/Sources and viewing the page source
[03:30] <SpaceDeliveryBoy> Xubuntu 14.02, HP 2000 laptop, chrome wont install through the software center or sudo dpkg.  Is this common? I just spent 5 hours getting the wifi to work
[03:30] <ivan_> hmm is security.ubuntu.com responsive right now, it's loading here
[03:31] <ivan_> ah there it is
[03:32] <zealsham_> ivan_: said not found
[03:32] <ivan_> zealsham_: yeah I think your apt sources.list is bad
[03:33] <zealsham_> ivan_:  how do i correct this
[03:33] <YankDownUnder> zealsham_: If you're not able to "see" those sources, but WE can, then yeah, something ain't right, hmm? Have you tried to add the Google DNS servers to your networking - just in case it's something to do with DNS lookups?
[03:33] <ivan_> zealsham_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/124017/how-do-i-restore-the-default-repositories
[03:34] <ivan_> YankDownUnder: the /Packages at the end is bad
[03:34] <ivan_> not totally sure what's going on, would be curious to see the /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:35] <YankDownUnder> ...a wee bit of corruption, perchance...
[03:35] <zealsham_> YankDownUnder: i have google dns
[03:36] <ivan_> or maybe his ISP is replacing 404s with 200s HTTP response statuses?
[03:36] <zealsham_> ivan_: should i follow the solutions in that answer
[03:36] <ivan_> zealsham_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/553765/failed-to-fetch-update-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts-trusty-tahr
[03:36] <ivan_> try that one first
[03:39] <zealsham_> ivan_: currently updating lets c how it goes
[03:40] <ivan_> SpaceDeliveryBoy: apt-get install ./google-chrome-whatever.deb
[03:40] <YankDownUnder> Cross yer fingers, have a coffee...relax.
[03:40] <ivan_> SpaceDeliveryBoy: if that doesn't work please pastebin the output
[03:41] <SpaceDeliveryBoy> for right now I'm an idiot and keep spelling chrome 'chorm', stand by
[03:41] <SpaceDeliveryBoy> ivan_ ^
[03:43] <SpaceDeliveryBoy> is pastebin a feature in IRC?
[03:43] <ivan_> SpaceDeliveryBoy: no just use http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[03:44] <SpaceDeliveryBoy> I see
[03:46] <SpaceDeliveryBoy> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24318051/
[03:47] <SpaceDeliveryBoy> my mistake, I pasted far too much
[03:47] <zealsham_> ivan_:
[03:47] <zealsham_> yaknk
[03:47] <zealsham_> same error occured
[03:48] <zealsham_> ivan_: : Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/main/source/Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[03:48] <zealsham_> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[03:49] <ivan_> SpaceDeliveryBoy: try apt-get install -f again or use the command I gave which will install dependencies instead of leaving things broken :-)
[03:49] <SpaceDeliveryBoy> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24318062/ more accurate
[03:49] <YankDownUnder> zealsham_: Remove the "security" PPA and try again.
[03:50] <ivan_> SpaceDeliveryBoy: which version of ubuntu do you have? it looks like chrome wants newer dependencies
[03:50] <SpaceDeliveryBoy> 14.02
[03:50] <SpaceDeliveryBoy> xubuntu
[03:51] <SpaceDeliveryBoy> my apt-get install -f outcome https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24318070/
[03:51] <ivan_> SpaceDeliveryBoy: what does cat /etc/lsb-release say
[03:51] <zealsham_> YankDownUnder: no such ppa in my software updater
[03:52] <SpaceDeliveryBoy> Yikes, Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[03:52] <ivan_> yeah, time to upgrade to 16.04 :-)
[03:52] <SpaceDeliveryBoy> I loaded this machine up
[03:53] <SpaceDeliveryBoy> I did the same thing with a Think Pad and it took chrome with no dependency issues, very strange
[03:53] <ivan_> well, it's running 14.04 or newer probably
[03:53] <dunpeal> Hi. What's the most recent kernel I can sanely run with 16.04 LTS, and how?
[03:54] <ivan_> dunpeal: linux-hwe-edge is 4.10
[03:54] <ivan_> if you don't really need the latest kernel just use 4.4 though
[03:55] <SpaceDeliveryBoy> well, I have the disc so I guess I'm off to update to 16.04
[03:55] <SpaceDeliveryBoy> are higher versions of ubuntu more taxing on the hardware?
[03:55] <zealsham_> do you think i should change the server am downloading from
[03:55] <ivan_> SpaceDeliveryBoy: not really. also you can use do-release-upgrade to go from 12.04 -> 14.04 -> 16.04 but you might have a better time with a clean install
[03:55] <ivan_> zealsham_: worth a try
[03:56] <ivan_> well actually security.ubuntu.com has no real replacement, right
[03:56] <dunpeal> ivan_: I'm getting a new laptop with i7-7700HQ (Kaby Lake), and I'm concerned that only the most recent kernel will fully support it, with proper power management etc.
[03:56] <dunpeal> What's my risk running 4.10 via linux-hwe-edge?
[03:56] <zealsham_> the server is pointing at cote d' ivoire , gon change it to us
[03:57] <SpaceDeliveryBoy> ivan_ thank you for the info, I'm off for now, I may  return but if I don't that means all is well.  Best regards!
[03:57] <ivan_> dunpeal: you get to play slightly more quality assurance for linux, but everyone has to do that on any version
[03:58] <dunpeal> ivan_: is there additional risk running 4.10 via linux-hwe-edge on 16.04, compared to getting it out-of-the-box with 17.04?
[03:58] <ivan_> dunpeal: I can't really think of any reason why, the userspace stuff should work with newer kernels
[03:58] <toshiba_leather_> ASUS has a great version of linux for 7 inch pc
[03:59] <toshiba_leather_> before
[03:59] <dunpeal> ivan_: yeah, maybe I'm paranoid, but it seems like upgrading a kernel (especially by this much: 4.4 -> 4.10) is a big change.
[04:00] <dunpeal> I can't help but feel 17.04 will be tested for this kernel, while 16.04 won't be.
[04:00] <ivan_> dunpeal: newer linuxes break the kernel APIs and /sys variables etc but there is a no-breakage policy for userspace
[04:03] <zealsham_> man 5:02am and i couldnt solve this . gotta sleep
[04:03] <zealsham_> linux hurts
[04:03] <zealsham_> bye evryone
[04:04] <ivan_> yes, yes it does
[04:12] <toshiba_leather_> I got go, I need to find my ASUS 7 inch pc, and fixed it in electronics streets in Taipei, the gears of monitor needs some motor oils or WD40 maybe a soultion
[04:24] <timido> hey can someone help me out with my e100 wireless drivers, the Interface now is called p30 or something similar.
[04:26] <timido> atheros drivers. Sure are confusing. Dealing with. Linux. support.
[04:33] <yakiza> Hello everyone i have just installed ubuntu and i have installed the proprietary drivers from 'Aditional drivers'  for my nvidia 960 ( drivers 375.39) and i have restarted the system i get an error string description - read error -110
[04:36] <dumle29> So i've made a package for a small script I wrote, and I want to share it by making a ppa. i've made a ppa, and now have to use dput to upload it. but dput is complaining with: No host ppa:mikkeljep/rpioff found in config
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:50] <MrSNES> Hello. I'm rebuilding my game server. I've got sshd set to only allow logins to my main account with ssh key.The problem is I usually run each game server in it's own limit user account just for some added security. Are there any security problems with giving my main account full read/write access of those limited accounts so I can still copy game files via sftp?
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> MrSNES: perhaps the #openssh channel might know more on it?
[04:54] <MrSNES> lotuspsychje: Not really a ssh question, i've got sshd configured already. I'm just wondering if there are any security concerns giving an account read/write access to another account's home directory.
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> !chmod | MrSNES can this help then?
[05:12] <yakiza>  Hello guys i have just installed the nvidia drivers and i cant even boot my computer i get a black screen with a underline flashing any help please
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> yakiza: ubuntu version? driver version you installed?
[05:15] <yakiza> lotuspsychje:  i think i found the source of the problem i had 2 kernels installed and i had to select the 2nd one ( just did that) but do you know how can i make that kernel boot by default
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> yakiza: wich kernel and wich ubuntu version?
[05:16] <yakiza> ubuntu 16.10  kernel  4.8.0-22-generic
[05:16] <yakiza> lotuspsychje:
[05:16] <yakiza> this one worked
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> yakiza: its recommended to stay on latest for security reasons
[05:17] <yakiza> lotuspsychje:  understood
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> yakiza: wich graphics card chipset and driver please?
[05:18] <yakiza> lotuspsychje:  nvidia 960 gtx
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> yakiza: and driver version that made your screen black?
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> yakiza: you can check by sudo lshw -C video
[05:27] <darthho0> hey is there a way to make my headphone audio jack work as an input out/in device together?
[05:28] <darthho0> sorry output and input together though the audio jack?
[05:32] <username_> hi
[05:33] <spaceboy> salutations
[05:35] <spaceboy> I have just updated to ubuntu 16.04 and I am having trouble installing chrome, does anyone have any idea how to make it work?
[05:36] <spaceboy> I was on 12.04 and have just updated, except for a dependency issue, it just won't install and does the same thing on both OS versions
[05:36] <spaceboy> the install process is behaving the same except for the dependency issue on 12.04*
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> spaceboy: install chromium-browser its the chrome alternative officially supported in the ubuntu repos
[05:37] <spaceboy> does it handle chrome extensions?
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> spaceboy: yes
[05:37] <ivan_> spaceboy: did you apt-get install ./file.deb
[05:38] <ivan_> dpkg -i does not install deps but apt can fix it
[05:38] <username_> spaceboy: Go to the official Google site and download the version for Ubuntu
[05:38] <spaceboy> I have downloaded the official deb, it halts installation a third of the way through in the software center
[05:39] <spaceboy> "apt-get install ./file.deb" do I include the . before the forward slash?
[05:40] <spaceboy> I would assume not
[05:40] <ivan_> yeah the manual conveniently leaves out that it takes relative paths that start with ./
[05:41] <Squarism> anyone know a good choice of minimal ubuntu server DOCKER image? Its okey if it has the most essential system/networking tools
[05:41] <spaceboy> so is that a shortcut?
[05:41] <ivan_> you can also dpkg -i FILE and then apt-get install -f
[05:41] <ivan_> spaceboy: . is the current directory so cd to the directory with the deb
[05:42] <spaceboy> I dpkg'd and then next prompt I install -f'd and nothing happened
[05:42] <ivan_> hmm
[05:43] <spaceboy> seems to be getting further now with the apt-get install ./file.deb
[05:44] <spaceboy> I am with chrome!
[05:44] <spaceboy> Thank you!
[05:44] <ivan> np
[05:46] <spaceboy> Ah, I seem to have experienced an error and should reboot.
[05:58] <digikiosk> hi
[06:01] <digikiosk> any girl
[06:22] <Guest82667> can we restore ubuntu to fresh installed state?
[06:22] <Ben64> no
[06:23] <EriC^^> Guest82667: backup your programs and files, reinstall copy and install them back
[06:24] <mgor> Guest82667, well.. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/reset-ubuntu-desktop-default-settings, but I haven't tried it myself. I would recommend what EriC^^ said
[06:26] <zueore> ubuntu is consuming almost 1.5g ram for one conky script and chromium - 2 tabs :/
[06:27] <Ben64> zueore: pastebin the output of "free -m"
[06:30] <zueore> @Ben64 http://paste.ubuntu.com/24318653/
[06:31] <linux_> kljl
[06:32] <linux_>
[06:32] <Ben64> zueore: it's probably chromium but it doesn't seem like a problem, you still got a bunch free
[06:32] <linux_> luzhengxiao
[06:34] <zueore> @Ben64 some time I've faced freezed state of ubuntu
[06:35] <zueore> @Ben64 switching to xfce from unity does make any difference?
[06:36] <zueore> @Ben64 if not i'll go back to arch linux
[06:37] <alkisg> zueore: distributions don't matter much; software does matter. What desktop environment were you using on arch? Use the same on Ubuntu too. `ps aux|grep chromium` will tell you how much RAM chromium uses; this is unrelated to ubuntu.
[06:40] <zueore> @alkisg when I turn on ubuntu, the ram usage will be at 700-800mb range. is this common?
[06:41] <alkisg> zueore: if you boot ubuntu to unity, and open a terminal, ram usage should be lower than 500 mb afaik
[06:41] <alkisg> Although I'm using mate, which uses 200 mb, so I'm not sure about unity, let me test...
[06:43] <zueore> @alkisg how about removing compiz? is that essential for unity?
[06:43] <alkisg> zueore: I get 665 used when I boot unity+gnome-terminal
[06:43] <alkisg> zueore: yes, compiz is essential for unity
[06:43] <alkisg> And it wouldn't make too much difference
[06:43] <alkisg> If you want to save 300 MB RAM or so, use a lighter DE
[06:43] <alkisg> This won't affect chromium mem usage
[06:44] <zueore> @alkisg xfce will do fine?
[06:44] <alkisg> If you disable zeitgeist, deja-dup and other software that doesn't do much useful stuff, unity will be fine as well
[06:45] <alkisg> Last time I measured ram in xfce was 3 years ago, it was similar to mate
[06:45] <alkisg> So yes it should be lighter
[06:45] <alkisg> Ah the 665 RAM now was not a valid measurement because apt-daily was install things
[06:46] <alkisg> It'll be less with unity too, let me reboot the VM and see...
[06:47] <zueore> @alkisg and this software updater pop up. I configured not tocheck upadtes but still its poping up. ://
[06:47] <alkisg> Where did you configure it?
[06:48] <zueore> in gui of sofware updater
[06:49] <alkisg> Eesh compiz uses 280 mb ram, you were right there...
[06:49]  * alkisg is glad to have avoided compiz all those years
[06:49] <alkisg> Also the gnome-software service wastes a lot of ram
[06:50] <alkisg> It's a pitty that they run it on login to save time later on, in case someone wants to use gnome-software
[06:50] <alkisg> It's becoming windows! Nightmare! :D
[06:50] <alkisg> They could just accept that they wrote slow software; we users did already accept it...
[06:53] <zueore> @alkisg haha! yea.
[06:53] <zueore> seriously i need to get rid of this.
[06:53] <alkisg> zueore: note that most of those are related to gnome, not to ubuntu
[06:54] <alkisg> zueore: booting an ubuntu-mate 16.04 VM => 262 RAM with mate-terminal open
[06:54] <alkisg> It's 400 MB less
[06:55] <fub> Hi. I'm using xubuntu 16.04 on a laptop. When attached to an external screen, I can close the lid and the external monitor stays on. However, the external monitor does not become the "primary" monitor. The "Primary display" settings seems to do nothing in the options.
[06:56] <zueore> @alkisg i dont want a reinstall. if i do that for arch. i read some where that unity is tightly bound to ubuntu. removing unity will make unstable ubuntu?
[06:56] <fub> I only can set the external to "primary" (so that the menu appears there) when I disable the laptop screen
[06:56] <fub> But when I display the laptop screen and close the lid, ubuntu goes to suspend..
[06:56] <fub> Any ideas what I can do here?
[06:56] <alkisg> zueore: installing multiple desktop environments is _supposed_ to work properly, but some times you'll get services from unity running under xfce because of bugs. So, for minimal ram, reinstallation would be better
[06:57] <coder-bts> Hi
[07:02] <nrdb> with Virtual Machine Manager I need a 32bit guest ... is setting the CPU/Model to qemu32 the best way to do this?
[07:08] <YankDownUnder> nrdb: Should do - have you given it a shot yet?
[07:19] <cpaelzer> nrdb: since you use virt-manager I assume you want the graphical way
[07:20] <cpaelzer> nrdb: double click the machin, click on the "i" which is "show virtual hardware details" there on CPUs and select the "Model" of your choice
[07:20] <cpaelzer> nrdb: after you started the guest you can check /var/log/libvirt/qemu/<guestname>.log if the -cpu option you wanted it set correctly
[07:27] <spaceboy> greetings
[07:31] <squig> yay, logged in this morning to find network manager running at 100% on one cpu and using 8Gb of ram
[07:35] <db`> guys, is it possible to remotely connect to a ubuntu host from my ubuntu client using rdp?
[07:35] <db`> I've xrdp installed on host
[07:35] <db`> and I got reminna rdp client
[07:35] <squig> yes
[07:36] <db`> I am able to connect to host ubuntu using windows machine, but not ubuntu macihne
[07:36] <db`> squig how do I do it?
[07:36] <db`> I am not installing vnc
[07:37] <squig> im not so sure with reminna I use rdesktop
[07:37] <db`> so rdesktop allows ytou to connect two ubuntus with one another just over xrdp?
[07:37] <db`> or do you need to setup vnc?
[07:39] <squig> where can you connect, ubuntu->windows, but not ubuntu->ubuntu
[07:39] <squig> you dont need vnc
[07:40] <Xatenev> Hi
[07:40] <Xatenev> Im running ubuntu but can't seem to get any sound.
[07:41] <db`> squig: I can connect ubuntu>win. I want to connect ubuntu>ubuntu. The remote host has xrdp & xfce4 installed.
[07:43] <squig> did you start xrdp service?
[07:43] <alkisg> db`: another way to connect to ubuntu (from ubuntu or windows) is x2go, check if you prefer it
[07:43] <db`> yes
[07:43] <squig> I dont know you will have to post logs
[07:44] <db`> well, everywhere on internet forums, people ask to setup vnc. But I want to connect ubuntu>ubuntu over rdp, since xrdp is already setup on host & it also has a gui.
[07:44] <db`> alkisg: I'm currently using reminna
[07:45] <alkisg> OK; x2go is another program that you could use if you like it :)
[07:45] <db`> I'll try.
[07:46] <db`> alkisg: x2go seems to be an alternative to remmina
[07:46] <alkisg> db`: remmina is a wrapper around other protocols
[07:46] <alkisg> x2go uses nx, another protocol
[07:46] <db`> ah, so it doesn't use rdp
[07:46] <alkisg> remmina uses vnc, ssh, rdp, etc
[07:47] <alkisg> Yes, it's designed for xorg, not for windows
[07:47] <db`> okay.
[07:47] <squig> I user rdesktop and it works fine, I have no vnc
[07:47] <db`> but is it not possible to connect via rdp two ubuntu pcs from remmina?
[07:47] <squig> I dont know, it very likely is
[07:48] <squig> you probably need to chagne some configuration some where
[07:48] <db`> Unable to connect to RDP server XXXX
[07:48] <db`> Its able to connect via SSH, but not RDP mode
[07:48] <db`> And its able to connect to a Windows server on RDP mode.
[07:49] <db`> using almost same settings, it fails to connect to ubuntu server via RDP
[07:49] <db`> where can I check the  logs etc?
[07:49] <squig> on the server? man xrdp
[07:50] <db`> let me try
[08:00] <mohamed_> hi
[08:10] <Duality> hi
[08:10] <Duality> how do i make wicd-curses autoconnect to wifi ?
[08:10] <Duality> i have to reconnect through wicd-curses after every reboot
[08:12] <alkisg> If I have a /var/crash/_usr_lib_xorg_Xorg.0.crash, what's the right way to upload/report it? The user doesn't have access there, and sudo apport-bug then doesn't open firefox to submit the bug...
[08:14] <oy> a
[08:14] <oy> sd
[08:14] <oy> df
[08:14] <oy> asdf
[08:15] <Duality> nvm
[08:15] <Duality> i didn't see the connect automaticaly option
[08:15] <oy> q
[08:15] <oy> wq
[08:15] <oy> q
[08:15] <oy> qwe
[08:15] <oy> wsdr
[08:15] <oy> qwe
[08:15] <oy> wqe
[08:34] <ghost_buster> st
[08:57] <blz> Hello, how can I check the physical size of a disk?  i.e.:  I don't care about how much of the disk I've used, but rather how big the whole disk is.
[08:58] <ducasse> lsblk
[08:58] <Henster[m]> i use pydf
[08:58] <blz> ducasse: that's the one!  Thanks!
[08:59] <Duality> anyone using x2x ? my mouse is invisible when i use x2x to control my other computer
[09:00] <Duality> it's there because i can right click on the desktop and get a menu :)
[09:01] <Duality> can i force the mouse visible ?
[09:01] <hemangpatel> Is anyonw know How I can change log format of vsftpd ?
[09:01] <ikevin> Duality, topic is old so take a look at https://github.com/dottedmag/x2x/issues/2
[09:02] <Duality> ikevin: i had found that to, none of those solutions worked for me
[09:03] <ikevin> hemangpatel, not sure you can change that
[09:06] <mrvar> anyone got tips on proper high resolution support in ubuntu (xubuntu), the window title bars (like tabs and such in firefox and chrome) are still too small after theme changes and font changes, default font is too small in browsers, though I have changed the settings
[09:06] <mrvar> yes i have the hidpi theme selected
[09:07] <hemangpatel> ikevin, i didn't find any configuration to change log format
[09:07] <ducasse> mrvar: did you change the scaling?
[09:07] <mrvar> Hmm, let me check
[09:07] <ikevin> hemangpatel, i think the only way is to change that in source code then recompile
[09:07] <ducasse> mrvar: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI
[09:08] <mrvar> I don't see an scailing option in the window manager settonmgs
[09:08] <mrvar> -typos (laptop)
[09:08] <db_> Hi. Using "preload" for ubuntu is a good thing?
[09:08] <zurow> hii
[09:09] <ikevin> db_, iirc, preload is outdated
[09:11] <Guest80472> Hi.
[09:12] <hemangpatel> ikevin, Ok thanks
[09:12] <Guest80472> Is there any way to disable alt as a trigger of menu bar? I disable it in shortcut settings yet it behaves the same.
[09:12] <db_> what is iirc means?
[09:12] <db_> ikevin,
[09:12] <ikevin> hemangpatel, i'm curious, why do you wan't to change that?
[09:13] <ikevin> db_, if i correctly remember
[09:13] <ikevin> erf, if i remember correctly*
[09:15] <hemangpatel> ikevin, we want to add some more parameter to calculate usage
[09:16] <ikevin> hemangpatel, a per user stats?
[09:16] <ducasse> hemangpatel: you'd probably need to change the source code
[09:16] <hemangpatel> yes
[09:17] <k1l> db_: read the answers and decide yourself http://askubuntu.com/questions/110335/drawbacks-of-using-preload-why-isnt-it-included-by-default
[09:19] <ikevin> hemangpatel, this can't be done using iptables?
[09:21] <mrvar> thanks for the link, that archlinux page si working well- thanks
[09:23] <ducasse> mrvar: np
[09:23] <mrvar> :0
[09:25] <lostbit> How do you upgrade the mesa drivers?
[09:25] <db_> k1l, This link amazing... Now I know that preload is not for me at all!
[09:26] <Guest80472> Ok, I want to try out unity for some time but as far as I remember I can't set alt+space as a application switching shortcut, which works on every other de/wm I've tried. Anyone know can this be achieved?
[09:27] <db_> not releated directly but one more question. Why my laptops fan is alwasy running and blowing hot air... Shall I refress that jell/cream they use on CPU or change the fan?
[09:27] <ikonia> not really an ubuntu question db_
[09:28] <db_> what channel should be right to ask
[09:29] <k1l> db_: dust in the heatsink and old thermal paste can be an issue. but is would first look into you having the proper drivers and the last bios updates installed.
[09:30] <jpe_> Hi. Is Trusty still being maintained? I get 404 Not found when trying to install libapparmor1 from apt-get (yes I did apt-get update)
[09:31] <k1l> jpe_: yes it is. can you show the output on paste.ubuntu.com ?
[09:31] <jpe_> hmm my copy/paste is broken from my terminal
[09:32] <k1l> "sudo apt-get update |nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:34] <jpe_> k1l, how can i also put stderr?
[09:36] <MrSassyPants> all of a sudden, my right shift key doesn't shift anymore. xev sees it being pressed, but it has no influence on whether stuff gets capitalized or not
[09:36] <ikonia> jpe_: the command kill has just given you will pastebin the info we need
[09:36] <MrSassyPants> is this a bug that snuck into a recent upgrade?
[09:36] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: upgrade to what ?
[09:36] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: upgrade of what
[09:36] <nrdb> cpaelzer, I have checked the log file the cpu is set the -cpu to qemu32 ... my main question is this the best way to setup a 32bit guest?
[09:37] <alkisg> MrSassyPants: try alt+ctrl+f1 to switch to console, then try your shift there. Finally, go back to graphics with alt+ctrl+f7. So, does it work properly in console?
[09:37] <MrSassyPants> ikanobori, idk tbh, i just did some package updates yesterday, and now i have that
[09:37] <MrSassyPants> good idea
[09:37] <MrSassyPants> hm ok ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't do anything D:
[09:37] <MrSassyPants> now i am scared
[09:38] <alkisg> MrSassyPants: sudo chvt 1, but then login and use sudo chvt 7 to get back to graphics
[09:38] <MrSassyPants> unsurprisingly, console works as it should, can even alt-ctrl-f7 back
[09:39] <MrSassyPants> so it's an x keyboard driver issue?
[09:39] <alkisg> MrSassyPants: try pressing and depressing all of your alt, ctrl, shift, win keys. to see if it's something stack.
[09:40] <MrSassyPants> nope. also, i can shift with left shift, but not with right
[09:40] <k1l> jpe_: i dont know if that works with piping. but my command should pastebin the needed output
[09:40] <alkisg> MrSassyPants: output of `setxkbmap -query` ?
[09:40] <MrSassyPants> also i think yesterday i noticed something similiar going on with alt gr but now alt gr works
[09:40] <MrSassyPants> evdev / pc105
[09:40] <jpe_> k1l, i just get the output "Use netcat."
[09:41] <MrSassyPants> looks normal to me
[09:41] <alkisg> MrSassyPants: that's the whole output? put it to pastebin...
[09:41] <k1l> jpe_: so apt update doesnt work at all?
[09:41] <jpe_> no the termbin doesn't work
[09:41] <jpe_> I'm outputting to a file
[09:42] <alkisg> jpe_: the command was this: sudo apt-get update | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:42] <alkisg> This will get it to termbin without a file
[09:42] <MrSassyPants> alkisg, https://nopaste.me/view/fa1da959#c9vEegYHK8aicuUYfenE7GGerXHQXIr1
[09:42] <k1l> the termbin works, but it doesnt send data, so nc gives that error. so again: did you run my command as i said? or does apt-get update give errors when run without pasting?
[09:43] <alkisg> MrSassyPants: if you run `setxkbmap us`, does it still happen? Then run `setxkbmap ch` to put it back.
[09:43] <MrSassyPants> alkisg, interdasting, that fixed it, i.e. going us and back to ch
[09:44] <alkisg> MrSassyPants: sounds software-related then, maybe gnome keyboard settings or something
[09:44] <alkisg> MrSassyPants: see if it happens again after a vt switch, or a logout
[09:44] <jpe_> using nc to termbin.com isn't working
[09:45] <alkisg> jpe_: does this work? date | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:45] <k1l> jpe_: i just tested it, it works.
[09:46] <k1l> jpe_: is port 9999 blocked by your firewall/router/company network/proxy?
[09:47] <cpaelzer> nrdb: It would be my way to do it, I can't rate if it is the best way :-)
[09:47] <InvisibleRasta> hello guys. i have a intel 5100agn card. i searched online and the drivers are not included. how can i find them
[09:48] <k1l> jpe_: i am not sure so far, if that is apt related issue or if it is a wrong command related issue. so please be sure to use the exact command given or answer the questions asked or provide the terminal output on a different way that suits you better.
[09:48] <ikonia> InvisibleRasta: xorg should support that card
[09:48] <ikonia> InvisibleRasta: there shouldn't be a need for additional drivers
[09:48] <ikonia> InvisibleRasta: what makes you think you need additional drivers ?
[09:49] <k1l> ikonia: its about a wifi card :)
[09:49] <InvisibleRasta> a quick search in google.. alot of people asking on how to set it up
[09:49] <ikonia> ahhh it's not the new intel advanced graphics card ?
[09:49] <InvisibleRasta> it didnt work out of the box
[09:49] <InvisibleRasta> when i try to enable wifi the button moves from on to off
[09:49] <InvisibleRasta> no its the old one
[09:49] <InvisibleRasta> 5100agn
[09:49] <k1l> InvisibleRasta: on some old cards (like your) you need to disable the n-speed
[09:50] <InvisibleRasta> how so?
[09:50] <k1l> echo "options iwlwifi 11n_disable=8" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf
[09:51] <InvisibleRasta> this should get the wifi going?
[09:51] <k1l> you got one of those cards, where intel lost interest in very quick and besides shipping open drivers they never fixed the issues with that cards
[09:52] <db_> k1l,  My laptops bios not updated since years more than 6 I guess
[09:53] <blz> q
[09:53] <k1l> InvisibleRasta: that is a common issue with that card. but to get to know what is wrong on your system one needs to look into "dmesg" output
[09:54] <InvisibleRasta> k1l, ill get back to you in a bit.. i ahve to reboot
[09:55] <Duality> i managed to make the cursor visible with: gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.cursor active false
[09:56] <Hanumaan> all the printers are gone from the settings some how I'm able to get the cups service running but still unable to add printers in gnome-ubuntu 16.04
[09:58] <BluesKaj> HI folks
[10:05] <Hanumaan> how to resolve this problem : http://paste.ubuntu.com/24319381/ have gnome-ubuntu
[10:06] <alkisg> Hanumaan: are you using some broken PPA?
[10:07] <Hanumaan> alkisg, how do I check it?
[10:07] <teldix> Hey, can you help me? I have an ubuntu Server that break my whole local network after a while. It also freezes my desktop of the server. After a restart the network and also the desktop are fine again. How to debug it?
[10:07] <alkisg> Hanumaan: if you added a ppa, you'd know it, because you would have done so manually. Anyway, what's the output of this command? apt policy '*cups*' | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:08] <Hanumaan> alkisg, http://termbin.com/7q1t
[10:10] <sleeps> you guys i need help installing wine
[10:11] <sleeps>  https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu this is what I followed
[10:11] <alkisg> Hanumaan: did you enable proposed repositories at some point, and then disabled it again?
[10:11] <k1l> sleeps: ask in #winehq if you  use their repo
[10:11] <sleeps> thats my issue
[10:11] <sleeps> its not saving the repo i think
[10:11] <sleeps> in my settings
[10:12] <Hanumaan> alkisg, could be possible long ago don't remember .. I also see this when I update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24319541/
[10:13] <k1l> sleeps: grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:13] <alkisg> Hanumaan: run `sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade`. Do they finish successfully?
[10:13] <BluesKaj> sleeps, check your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:14] <sleeps> i paset taht here?
[10:14] <sleeps> http://termbin.com/f53v
[10:14] <k1l> sleeps: this will show you a url, show that url here, please
[10:14] <sleeps> oh okay i see
[10:14] <mrvar> hmm, 'full-upgrade', whats the difference between that and 'dist-upgrade'?
[10:14] <k1l> sleeps: it added the repo. run sudo apt udpate.
[10:15] <k1l> mrvar: its the same just with "better phrasing" for apt instead of apt-get
[10:15] <mrvar> ah okay, thanks
[10:15] <Hanumaan> alkisg, I assume they finish but check this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/24319547/ line number 14
[10:15] <k1l> mrvar: most users thought it will do an upgrade to the new ubuntu release because of the "dist"
[10:15] <alkisg> Hanumaan: not important; just an old repository there
[10:15] <sleeps> k1l alright its done
[10:15] <mrvar> yeah, the nominclature is a bit weird
[10:16] <k1l> sleeps: now it should work
[10:16] <sleeps> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends winehq-stable
[10:16] <k1l> mrvar: "apt" is the new command that tries to group apt-get, apt-cache etc into one command and give it some better phrasing at some points
[10:16] <sleeps> i tpye this right
[10:16] <mrvar> ah
[10:16] <Hanumaan> alkisg, I tried to purge libcups2 but it was trying to remove many other packages so stopped doing that ..
[10:16] <mrvar> didn't even know it existed
[10:16] <sleeps> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends winehq-stable
[10:16] <sleeps> Reading package lists... Done
[10:16] <sleeps> Building dependency tree
[10:16] <sleeps> Reading state information... Done
[10:16] <sleeps> E: Unable to locate package winehq-stable
[10:17] <mrvar> still hitting up the apt-8 AND DPKG MYSELF :)
[10:17] <sleeps> same error again
[10:17] <mrvar> -caps
[10:17] <alkisg> Hanumaan: what's the output of this? apt install libcupsppdc1=2.1.3-4
[10:17] <alkisg> Say yes if it asks to downgrade
[10:17] <mrvar> sleeps: sounds like it's not in your listings, ensure you have the right sources added to your apt cache
[10:17] <k1l> sleeps: then ask #winehq if theri repo is broken
[10:17] <teldix> @all: Hey, can you help me? I have an ubuntu Server that break my whole local network after a while. It also freezes my desktop of the server. After a restart the network and also the desktop are fine again. How to debug it?
[10:18] <k1l> sleeps: its not the ubuntu end that is the issue
[10:18] <sleeps> oh okay
[10:18] <sleeps> i see
[10:18] <Hanumaan> alkisg, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24319554/
[10:19] <alkisg> Hanumaan: try this: apt install libcupsppdc1=2.1.3-4 libcups2=2.1.3-4
[10:21] <gardon> s
[10:21] <gardon> Hi guys
[10:21] <gardon> I'm having problems with vlc
[10:21] <gardon> It says permission denied
[10:24] <gardon> Anyone?
[10:24] <Hanumaan> alkisg, it removed and installed somethings http://paste.ubuntu.com/24319570/
[10:24] <blacknight> yes
[10:24] <blacknight> tell me
[10:25] <alkisg> Hanumaan: does the initial command that you were trying work now?
[10:26] <Hanumaan> alkisg, yes it is working ..
[10:26] <alkisg> Hanumaan: Nice. To check if you have more issues due to enabling and disabling proposed, what's the output of this? apt-cache policy $(dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/ { print $2 }') | grep -A2 '^[^ ]*:' | while read package; do read junk installed; read junk candidate; read junk; if [ "$candidate" != "$installed" ]; then echo "$package=$candidate"; fi; done
[10:27] <Hanumaan> alkisg, nothing is output .. for the above command
[10:28] <alkisg> Hanumaan: that's a good thing. When you finish with your apt command, next run:  sudo apt install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[10:28] <alkisg> Because you seem to have removed it with the previous command...
[10:28] <Hanumaan> alkisg, awesome .. what was the problem?
[10:28] <Hanumaan> alkisg, now the printer is also back
[10:30] <alkisg> Hanumaan: the problem is that at some point you enabled proposed updates, and then you disabled them
[10:30] <alkisg> Don't enable proposed updates...
[10:34] <qswz> sorry to put this link again, but please for Linux sake, if you use github and sublimetext (or not) upvote this https://github.com/SublimeTextIssues/Core/issues/1361, dragging text is important
[10:35] <k1l> qswz: sorry, this channel is not for advertising
[10:35] <qswz> it's no advertising :(
[10:35] <qswz> I'm not advertising sublime at all
[10:36] <k1l> imagine al 1800 users would link their favorite bugreports or github issues in here. this would make this channel useless for support.
[10:36] <nanodrone> whats sublime?
[10:36] <qswz> an editor, that is bugged on inux
[10:36] <qswz> k1l: yea, right, sorry
[10:37] <nanodrone> shouldn't this go in sublime's own dev channel?
[10:37] <qswz> ah ood point
[10:37] <spug> I just did an aptitude update;aptitude safe-upgrade, and now my Xorg fails to load my nvidia module for nvidia-375... any ideas how to resolve on 16.04.2?
[10:37] <k1l> spug: where there any issues on installing?
[10:38] <spug> No, I even did a aptitude reinstall nvidia-375 and a dkms status and all looked fine.
[10:39] <spug> the nvidia kernel module shows up in /proc/drivers/nvidia/ and populates it.
[10:39] <spug> I think it's just Xorg that's having problems.
[10:39] <k1l> spug: so the Xorg.0.log will tell you whats happening
[10:40] <spug> k1l: It's a bit terse, is there a way to increase the verbosity using startx -- or something similar?
[10:40] <spug> k1l: [    40.666] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[10:40] <k1l> spug: dont use startx. start the lightdm on ubuntu.
[10:40] <minimec> spug: What are your symptoms? Do you get a black screen during boot? Can you boot to recovery and then 'coninue normal boot?
[10:40] <k1l> spug: that is why i asked if there were issues on installing. like failing modules
[10:41] <spug> k1l: the text console is fine, it's purely when X is trying to launch.
[10:41] <k1l> spug: which makes sense, since the text console doesnt need the 3d module to work
[10:41] <spug> I can ssh into the box, it's multiuser and i can run startx.
[10:42] <minimec> spug: I have to put 'nomodeset' in my grub config to get my gtx1060 going. Otherwise I it fails to load the graphical environment.
[10:42] <spug> which generates a new Xorg.0.log each time...
[10:42] <spug> k1l: [    40.666] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nvidia
[10:42] <k1l> spug: looks to me there was an issue isntalling the latest kernel and compiling the modules
[10:43] <spug> So, this has been working until today's update... why would I need to use nomodeset today?
[10:43] <spug> If I do a an aptitude reinstall nvidia-375 I see no issues and it seems to run successfully.
[10:44] <spug> maybe I'll try an strace -f -eopen startx and see what module it's trying to load.
[10:45] <k1l> reboot to an older kernel and see if that works.
[10:45] <k1l> i dont know if aptitude gives proper errormessages. i am not used to it. i only use apt
[10:45] <minimec> spug: Well... I don't know why, but I have to use 'nomodeset'. Also I have a full disk encryption, and whit 'quiet splash', I cannot enter my password. So my 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT' in '/etc/default/grub' looks like this... GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nomodeset"
[10:46] <minimec> spug: This is the only way I can boot my system correctly.
[10:46] <k1l> spug: but that "cant find nvidia module" is prette clear what the issue is
[10:47] <NeoFrontier> Greetings, if I plug in a USB bluetooth adapter into an Ubuntu laptop and do an lsusb and it does not show up, does that mean the adaptor is broken or that ubuntu cant see this device on its USB bus ?
[10:47] <spug> k1l: pretty clear? what path, what filename would be a tad clearer... is there no way to bump up the verbosity.
[10:47] <NeoFrontier> ( ie not supported or something )
[10:47] <minimec> NeoFrontier: Try 'dmesg' after plugging the stick. It will give you some usefull info...
[10:48] <k1l> spug: its pretty clear that there went something wrong on making the modules.
[10:49] <spug> k1l: so what's the best way to determine what went wrong making the modules, dkms status says everything is peachy, and an aptitude reinstall completed without incident?
[10:49] <NeoFrontier> minimec I don't see anything relevant in dmesg after plugging it in.
[10:49] <NeoFrontier> Is this adaptor broken ?
[10:50] <k1l> spug: look at the logs of aptitude if there was an error or not.
[10:50] <NeoFrontier> seems to do absolutely nothing.
[10:50] <NeoFrontier> almost like plugging in a stick.
[10:50] <NeoFrontier> ( made of wood )
[10:50] <k1l> spug: try the older kernel in grub to see if that works
[10:50] <BluesKaj> minimec, which driver are you using?
[10:50] <spug> the kernel module is populating /proc/drivers/nvidia so the kernel odule seems good it's the xorg module that seems to be the sticking problem... I'll check out the older kernel and aptitude.log, cheers.
[10:51] <minimec> BluesKaj: default 16.04 propriety driver nvidia-375 (375.39)
[10:52] <spug> k1l: nothing of note in aptitude.log, just: [UPGRADE] nvidia-367:amd64 367.57-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> -> 375.39-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:52] <minimec> NeoFrontier: It should show something like this... http://paste.ubuntu.com/24319655/
[10:52] <spug> k1l: I'll try rebooting into the older kernel.
[10:52] <zealsham_> can i upgrade from 14.0.4 lts to 16.0.4LTS with no issues and lost of files?
[10:53] <BluesKaj> minimec, have you tried regressing to the 367
[10:53] <NeoFrontier> yeah and lsusb should show something on its bus.
[10:53] <NeoFrontier> I think this adapter is dead.
[10:53] <NeoFrontier> @ minimec
[10:54] <k1l> zealsham_: yes. but according to murphys law that only works, if you have backups :)
[10:54] <minimec> BluesKaj: Nope. Do you think that would give me 'graphical boot'. As I have the card up and running, I don't really care. But it's good to know.
[10:55] <minimec> NeoFrontier: Yeah... Looks like. Maybe try to plug it on a different device, just for a test...
[10:55] <NeoFrontier> I could boot windows ?
[10:55] <NeoFrontier> ( thats scary )
[10:55] <zealsham_> damm okay, ill just install 16.04 freshly , time to get rid of windows on this dualboot
[10:56] <minimec> NeoFrontier: ;) I see. But sometimes... it helps...
[10:56] <poorUser> Hi people! I have an issue with an usb3 controller. It randomly dies when something is plugged on. With 16.04 i did a simple script to workaround this problem, echo "0000:04:00.0" | tee /sys/bus/pci/drivers/xhci_hcd/unbind and then rebind it. Now with 16.10 the system freezes and i need to use the power button to shutdown. Does anyone have any suggestion?
[10:56] <spug> k1l: no joy with previous kernel, will see if there is an even older one
[10:56] <k1l> zealsham_: the upgrade works. it gets automated testings from ubuntu. there are just some parts like PPA packages or old amd fglrx installs that might need manual work
[10:58] <minimec> poorUser: Did you ever try to 'tune' some settings in the BIOS in 'USB COnfiguration'?
[10:58] <BluesKaj> minimec, have you checked launchapad for nvidia-375 bugs
[10:58] <BluesKaj> minimec, launchpad even
[10:59] <spug> k1l, there are heaps of older kernels, I'll keep trying a few but I suspect the update of the nvidia-current package has broken things, trying 4.4.0-67 now.
[11:00] <minimec> BluesKaj: I never checked for bugs. As I said, I changed my 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT' and got my card going. So I had no reason to check for bugs. But if you tell me that my card would run better and smoother, I might consider a downgrade... ;)
[11:00] <poorUser> minimec: not yet, i don't think to have a lot of options in the bios, i'll try later!
[11:01] <spug> k1l: no joy, the kernel boots, mentions plymouth, then the screen goes black, as xorg tries to find the missing nvidia module and then returns to the text console.
[11:02] <spug> k1l: I just googled: "startx -logverbose 6" so I'll give that a whirl.
[11:03] <minimec> poorUser: There could be a settings option like this... https://superuser.com/questions/480045/what-does-the-bios-setting-xhci-pre-boot-mode-do
[11:03] <poorUser> minimec: tnk you very much
[11:04] <josue_> hola hola
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> !es | josue_
[11:04] <BluesKaj> minimec, no, I'm mistaken, there is a bug, and you used the workaround most ppl a re using, it's a kernel module problem according to this  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1638860
[11:04] <poorUser> minimec: i'll try the bios, but i have problems only once the OS is loaded, at bios stage everything works correctly
[11:05] <Guest36617> How to make a USB boot disk in ubuntu?
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> !usb | Guest36617
[11:06] <minimec> BluesKaj: THX for the info. I knew that my 'ubuntu foo' is worth something... ;)
[11:06] <Guest36617> ubottu thanx for the fast response
[11:14] <spug> k1l: okay, I've got a bit further, with an strace -f startx, I've discovered that the xorg looks in /usr/lib/xorg/drivers, this has a list of various of the usual suspects, like nouveau_drv.so, vesa_drv.so but no nvidia_drv.so.
[11:14] <spug> k1: so I decided to run locate to search for nvidia_drv.so.
[11:15] <spug> and I got two hits... /usr/lib/nvidia-375/xorg/nvidia_drv.so and /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so, however the interesting thing is that the latter doesn't exist.
[11:16] <spug> k1l: I reckon I'm going to try a symlink from the missing file to the existing one and see if that buys me anything.
[11:17] <spug> k1l: works like a bought one.
[11:17] <spug> k1l: rebooting to see whether the latest kernel is happy with the symlink
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> !enter | spug
[11:23] <spug> ubottu: sorry, I'm newbie when it comes to IRC... the good news is that I've fixed the issue, apparently caused by the safe-upgrade of nvidia via aptitude by creating an appropriate symlink.
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> spug: if nobody answers, try to re-state your question all in one line to the channel with your ubuntu version, steps taken..to have a better luck in solving your issue
[11:28] <spug> lotuspsychje: I've resolved my issue but not the root cause. I ran "aptitude update;aptitude safe-upgrade" and it appears to have cause xorg not to be able find the nvidia_drv.so, as it's not in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so.
[11:30] <mozammel> hi, I'm looking for help, my kubuntu installed on /sda2 and then I have installed Deepin Linux on /sda7, now I can only boot into Deepin Linux, how to rescue my kubuntu linux.
[11:31] <Sinned> Hi there!
[11:31] <Sinned> I was hoping if there is anyone with Experience on Landscape On Premise on Ubuntu
[11:31] <Sinned> :)
[11:39] <guzzlefry> What's the proper way to remove old kernels?
[11:39] <Sinned> guzzlefry: sudo apt autoremove
[11:39] <guzzlefry> Sinned: Assuming that fails. :)
[11:39] <ivan> how many old kernels do you have? autoremove will keep some in case the new one fails to boot
[11:39] <Sinned> that sux.. I can paste a script in your pm which will purge all kernels, except the running one, and the one before
[11:40] <guzzlefry> ivan: Looks like 8?
[11:40] <ivan> :(
[11:40] <Sinned> what error u get on autoremove?
[11:41] <guzzlefry> unmet dependencies, which happens to be:  linux-signed-image-4.4.0-72-generic : Depends: linux-image-4.4.0-72-generic (= 4.4.0-72.93) but it is not installed
[11:42] <ivan> guzzlefry: try apt-get update
[11:42] <guzzlefry> I just did that. I can't install that dependency because there's no space in /boot/
[11:42] <guzzlefry> And I can't remove the kernels via apt because the dependency is missing. :P
[11:42] <Sinned>     CURRENTKERNEL=$(uname -r|cut -d - -f1-2)  	OLDKERNEL=$(for i in $(ls -l /vmlinuz*|awk '{print $(NF-0)}');do echo $i |xargs basename|cut -d - -f2-3;done)        sudo dpkg -l|egrep 'linux-headers-[0-9]\.[0-9]\.[0-9]-[0-9]|linux-image-[0-9]\.[0-9]\.[0-9]-[0-9]'|egrep -v ''"${CURRENTKERNEL}"'|'"${OLDKERNEL}"''|awk '{print $2}'|xargs sudo apt-get purge -y
[11:42] <Sinned> make a bash out of this and run it
[11:43] <EriC^^> guzzlefry: sudo rm /boot/initrd...some old versions
[11:43] <EriC^^> then fix apt and stuff
[11:45] <guzzlefry> Ah, didn't think it would be that simple. Afraid of breaking the package manager. >_>
[11:45] <guzzlefry> Thanks
[11:45] <InvisibleRasta> k1l, i issued the command to disable n speed but still ic ant get the wifi
[11:45] <EriC^^> guzzlefry: no problem
[11:45] <Sinned> anyone knows something bout landscape on premise /
[11:46] <InvisibleRasta> k1l, it says wlp3 link is not ready
[11:46] <InvisibleRasta> idk
[11:47] <guzzlefry> uh oh
[11:48] <guzzlefry> oh, it's hitting space issues again 0.o
[11:48] <hateball> Sinned: I am thinking it is more likely that someone does over in #ubuntu-server (I don't personally know)
[11:49] <EriC^^> guzzlefry: remove a couple more initrd
[11:49] <developer_> Hello guys. Is there anyone help me install php7.0.2 package in ubuntu 14.04 ?
[11:50] <ikonia> developer_: sounds like a very bad idea
[11:50] <Sinned> hateball: Thanks for the tip mate, I will try there :)
[11:50] <developer_> ikonia, i need php 7.0.2 for magento installation. please help me.
[11:51] <ikonia> developer_: upgrade to 16.04 that ships with php 7
[11:51] <gardon>  Is anyone on?
[11:51] <EriC^^> gardon: yeah
[11:52] <gardon> Heyy, just wanna ask for some help.
[11:52] <EriC^^> ask your question
[11:52] <gardon> https://www.snapdeal.com/product/acer-aspire-e1570g-3rd-gen/513744270
[11:52] <gardon> I'm using that unit
[11:52] <gardon> But with the 620M Nvidia.
[11:52] <gardon> And whenever I watch videos, it crashes.
[11:52] <developer_> ikonia, Is there any way to install 7.0.2 in 14.04 ?
[11:52] <gardon> I updated already
[11:52] <gardon> sudo apt-get update
[11:53] <gardon> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:53] <ikonia> developer_: not something I'd recommend
[11:53] <gardon> sudo apt-get autoremove
[11:53] <gardon> I also did primusrun before.
[11:53] <gardon> I disabled the intel graphics.
[11:53] <Sinned> developer_: if you really wish to follow that route, you can try https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-upgrade-to-php-7-on-ubuntu-14-04
[11:54] <gardon> Eric^^: U there?
[11:54] <EriC^^> gardon: yeah, i have no idea, wait a little and if nobody answers repeat it in one line after a while
[11:54] <ikonia> developer_: don't follow that guide
[11:55] <gardon> I have Nvidia for graphics, I disabled Intel HD. It crashes when I watch a video. Anyone?
[11:56] <developer_> ikonia, okay. then ?
[11:56] <ikonia> then what ?
[11:56] <developer_> ikonia, any idea for 14.04 i386
[11:57] <ikonia> developer_: upgrade to 16.04
[11:57] <gardon> EriC^^ Have you tried Linux Mint?
[11:57] <mitko> can someone pls help me my hdmi is not working
[11:58] <mitko> and im a noob ubuntu user
[11:58] <developer_> ikonia, are you sure no any other way
[11:58] <Sinned> ikonia: why not follow that guide? It will work for what he's looking for
[11:59] <EriC^^> gardon: yeah, why?
[11:59] <gardon> Maybe if I use that instead/
[11:59] <ikonia> developer_: there are many other ways, none that I'd advise
[11:59] <gardon> Will it solve my problem?
[11:59] <ikonia> developer_: why do yuou not want to move to 16.04
[11:59] <ikonia> Sinned: have you seen how many times that repo has crashed ?
[11:59] <mitko> when i plug my hdmi cable nothing happens :(
[11:59] <ikonia> and by crashed I mean shipped bad packages / created conflict ?
[11:59] <EriC^^> gardon: maybe another kernel or graphics driver might help, or enable ssh and when it crashes see if you can ssh and see what "dmesg" has for errors
[12:00] <Sinned> ikonia: never had that issue tbh, but I believe you
[12:00] <gardon> I don't know how to do those.
[12:00] <ikonia> why not disable nvidia
[12:00] <ikonia> and test on intel
[12:00] <ikonia> see if you can narrow the problem down
[12:00] <gardon> Intel says Unknown: unknown
[12:01] <developer_> ikonia, Actually i have already installed 16.04 earlier, but that shows me number of errors.
[12:01] <gardon> And it says that it's using an alternate driver.
[12:01] <EriC^^> gardon: which ubuntu is this?
[12:01] <ikonia> developer_: what shows you errors
[12:01] <gardon> 16.10
[12:02] <gardon> ikonia: don't you think that'll make it laggier?
[12:02] <ikonia> gardon: no
[12:02] <gardon> Why
[12:02] <developer_> ikonia, I mean about some software issues
[12:02] <gardon> I mean the 620m is there for a reason
[12:02] <ikonia> developer_: what software
[12:02] <gardon> The nvidia is there*
[12:03] <gardon> By the way
[12:03] <developer_> ikonia, robomongo, chrome etc...
[12:03] <ikonia> developer_: that seems unlikley, and also not the reason to chose a PHP build
[12:03] <gardon> ikonia: When I enable Intel, and I start up, there's an error saying: "Cannot detect graphics, etc. etc. It's running on Low graphics mode"
[12:04] <craptalk> is there any channel which talks about TOR network?
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> !alis | craptalk
[12:05] <developer_> ikonia, can you please send me a command to upgrade a linux version 16.04
[12:05] <ikonia> !upgrade | developer_
[12:24] <Simooon> What is the channel for talking about snaps?
[12:25] <Simooon> Anyway the available snaps are the same for all systems with snap installed, correct?
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> !snappy | Simooon
[12:25] <InvisibleRasta> hello guys im tryign to get a intel5100agn wifi card to work. its missing the driver. i dont know where to fidn it
[12:25] <Simooon> lotuspsychje, Thanks :-)
[12:27] <Sinned> InvisibleRasta: http://www.intel.nl/content/www/nl/nl/support/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking/000005511.html
[12:27] <InvisibleRasta> iwlwifi-5000-ucode-<IP_ADDRESS>-1.tgz this version Sinned
[12:28] <InvisibleRasta> or =iwlwifi-5000-ucode-5.4.A.11.tar.gz
[12:28] <Sinned> iwlwifi-5000-ucode-5.4.A.11.tar.gz
[12:29] <Beret> hmmm
[12:32] <InvisibleRasta> Sinned, do i have to modprobe or something
[12:33] <wandering_vagran> Hello guys, I am looking to find information about doing a security patching of few ubuntu servers. Particularly I am looking to know what packages are installed (obtainable from dpkg --get-selections "*") and after upgrading which versions they will be?
[12:34] <wandering_vagran> And how can I roll back a single updated package and/or the entire set? Assuming full backup is there.
[12:34] <InvisibleRasta> Sinned, how do i install it
[12:35] <Sinned> sudo modprobe iwlwifi
[12:35] <Sinned> what does it say
[12:35] <Sinned> dmesg | grep iwl
[12:36] <Sinned> does it say firmware is not loaded or something in that way?
[12:36] <Ben64> wandering_vagran: apt-cache policy package
[12:38] <wandering_vagran> Thanks Ben64,
[12:39] <wandering_vagran> any clue as to whether a rollback can be done?
[12:39] <wandering_vagran> a-la yum undo <id> (don't yell at me please :))
[12:40] <Ben64> wandering_vagran: you could install the old package but that's not a good idea
[12:41] <Sinned> wandering_vagran: Cant u run yum history undo <id> ? or do I misinterpret the question?
[12:41] <wandering_vagran> Ben64, okay. I will have a snapshot anyway.
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> wandering_vagran: what kind of ubuntu server version are you on?
[12:41] <wandering_vagran> lotuspsychje, 16.04 LTS
[12:42] <wandering_vagran> Sinned, that is for RHEL and derivatives, no
[12:44] <Ben64> i've been running ubuntu servers for quite a long time and haven't ever wanted to undo an upgrade
[12:45] <iacicc> Sinned, this is the dmesg output https://pastebin.com/n8dERwsu
[12:45] <iacicc> Sinned, its invisiblerasta
[12:46] <wandering_vagran> Ben64, good to hear. Do you do full update or security updates?
[12:46] <Ben64> full
[12:46] <wandering_vagran> I am taking that upgrade means moving to another release and update is staying in the release
[12:47] <wandering_vagran> alright
[12:47] <Ben64> no
[12:47] <Ben64> do-release-upgrade is what brings you to a new version of ubuntu
[12:47] <Ben64> those you should be more careful with
[12:47] <Ben64> apt-get dist-upgrade just upgrades your packages and should be run often
[12:48] <iacicc> Sinned, are u there
[12:49] <alkisg> wandering_vagran: to install an older version, you'd use apt install package=version, if that version is still available in the repositories, or dpkg -i package.deb, if you have it in some cache. The .deb file cache is at /var/lib/dpkg/archives.
[12:50] <wandering_vagran> Ben64, alkisg thank you!
[12:50] <alkisg> np
[12:50] <wandering_vagran> Any chance you are aware of the option of installing only security updates?
[12:50] <wandering_vagran> Assuming I get this question from well...management?
[12:51] <alkisg> wandering_vagran: you can enable only the security repository if you want. It's also possible to install security updates unattended.
[12:51] <wandering_vagran> like yum --security update? May not be necessary, but helps to go with all the information.
[12:51] <wandering_vagran> yeah I was reading https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades
[12:51] <wandering_vagran> for now, we may not go for unattended upgrades.
[12:51] <wandering_vagran> once I run a manual one, I will push for unattended upgrades
[12:52] <wandering_vagran> alkisg, thanks. will look into apt list
[12:52] <InvisibleRasta> Sinned,how do i install it and enable it
[12:52] <InvisibleRasta> Sinned, i moved it in lib firmware but i guess it doesnt start at boot
[12:53] <alkisg> wandering_vagran: the package that does that is called "unattended-upgrades"
[12:53] <wandering_vagran> yeah.
[12:55] <vow> hey
[12:56] <vow> who is here
[12:56] <alkisg> Write /users to see
[12:57] <Sinned> InvisibleRasta: So, you also rebooted right?
[12:57] <Sinned> You still get the msg: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-5000-3.ucode failed with error -2 ?
[12:57] <Sinned> What kernel are you running
[12:58] <iacicc> Sinned, Linux iacicc-EASYNOTE-TN65 4.4.0-72-generic #93-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 31 14:07:41 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:58] <iacicc> iacicc@ia
[13:01] <Sinned> iacicc: DL https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/_media/en/users/drivers/iwlwifi-5000-ucode-<IP_ADDRESS>-1.tgz then cp iwlwifi-*.ucode /lib/firmware and reboot
[13:03] <xebra> hi, at installation there's an option for LVM already checked. If it's given as an option (enabled, but that you can disable) then it means there must be good reasons NOT to use it. In fact, I was thinking of NOT using it, since I don't need resizing or snapshots for my basic home installation. So the question: why is it not default, and what are good reasons to disable it like I think I'd want to do?
[13:08] <iacicc> Sinned, i rebooted but still i cant connect
[13:08] <Sinned> can u give me another dmesg
[13:08] <iacicc> sec
[13:09] <iacicc> https://pastebin.com/F2KbebTr Sinned
[13:10] <iacicc> ive heard that i have to disable N
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | xebra
[13:10] <ducasse> xebra: lvm is another layer of abstraction, one more thing that can go wrong
[13:10] <Sinned> iacicc: Well, not it atleast loads the FW
[13:10] <Sinned> now*
[13:11] <BluesKaj> xebra, if you don't need LVM then don't use it , don't fret over why it's checked, just uncheck it and proceed with your installation
[13:14] <iacicc> Sinned, need any logs?
[13:18] <Sinned> iacicc: no, uhm
[13:18] <Sinned> iacicc: can you run: rfkill list
[13:18] <Sinned> is the wifi turned on with some kind of HW button?
[13:18] <iacicc> yes
[13:18] <iacicc> its on
[13:19] <Sinned> ok, lets check that..
[13:19] <Sinned> rfkill list
[13:19] <fantamanta> yo
[13:19] <Sinned> maybe u have to install the package first
[13:19] <iacicc> https://pastebin.com/5wJiQQ6H Sinned
[13:20] <Sinned> so, you see the line softblocked: yes?
[13:21] <Sinned> In case you see yes on Soft blocked: hotkeys on your notebook may help activating it
[13:21] <Sinned> But.. lets force it instead if you cannot activate it somehow with those buttons
[13:21] <Sinned> run sudo rfkill unblock all
[13:22] <Sinned> and try your wifi again
[13:22] <iacicc> still doesnt start
[13:23] <Sinned> rfkill list says the softblock is on no now?
[13:24] <iacicc> Sinned, same output as before
[13:24] <Ice_Strike> I did apt-get upgrade
[13:25] <Ice_Strike> and now it is hanging at:
[13:25] <Ice_Strike> Setting up mysql-server-5.7 (5.7.17-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>) ...
[13:25] <Ice_Strike> Nothing happening after that for while
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> Ice_Strike: added ppa's of any kind?
[13:25] <Ice_Strike> I don't think so.
[13:25] <Sinned> iacicc: even when running sudo rfkill unblock all ?
[13:25] <Ice_Strike> what should I do?
[13:26] <Sinned> Ice_Strike: how long is it been there?
[13:26] <Ice_Strike> about 20 mins
[13:26] <iacicc> Sinned, yes even after that
[13:26] <Sinned> iacicc: if you use your HW button to disable the WLAN, and check that command again, does the soft or hardblock switch?
[13:27] <iacicc> Sinned, the led light doesnt go on tho
[13:27] <Ice_Strike> :(
[13:27] <Sinned> Ice_Strike: what did you upgrade? :o
[13:28] <Sinned> iacicc: I think thats abit strange.. uhm is there some option in bios to turn HW activation off?
[13:28] <iacicc> Sinned, yes it goes on ons second and then off when i try to enable it
[13:28] <Sinned> ah ok
[13:28] <iacicc> now the wifi starts but goes off
[13:28] <Sinned> so it crashes "somewhere" I guess
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> Ice_Strike: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[13:29] <iacicc> https://pastebin.com/87fr6gQq Sinned
[13:29] <alkisg> Ice_Strike: put your /var/log/apt/history.log to pastebin
[13:33] <gbpacheco>  /nickserv identify gbpacheco idw16744
[13:34] <Sinned> iacicc:  I sent you a pm, so we can pick it up from there if you wish
[13:36] <scuba_steve> Hi everyone! I'm having a strange problem with an Ubuntu 16.04 Server install, I install and set up a static IP, when I remove the monitor and restart the machine, networking doesn't start, anyone ever heard of this?
[13:36] <alkisg> scuba_steve: and if you have the monitor and restart, it works?
[13:36] <scuba_steve> exactly
[13:37] <compdoc> the monitor? you are trying to run headless?
[13:37] <scuba_steve> networking starts fine with a monitor
[13:37] <alkisg> Nope that doesn't make sense :)
[13:37] <scottjl> scuba_steve: are you removing the keyboard too?
[13:37] <scuba_steve> yes, I'm trying to run it completly headless
[13:37] <scuba_steve> without keyboard and monitor
[13:37] <alkisg> scuba_steve: and if you put back the monitor at that time, do you see any error messages?
[13:37] <scottjl> scuba_steve: is your bios set to boot w/o a keyboard? or is it erroring at the bios?
[13:38] <saeron> hi there
[13:38] <compdoc> scuba_steve, I run many machines headless all the time, and it never affects networking. you have network-manager installed?
[13:38] <scuba_steve> it's an old Dell Vostro, I've set the BIOS to ignore keyboard errors
[13:38] <scottjl> scuba_steve: try just the monitor, no keyboard, and make sure it's actually booting.
[13:38] <scuba_steve> no network manager, configuring static IP via /etc/network/interfaces
[13:38] <alkisg> (04:37:36 μμ) alkisg: scuba_steve: and if you put back the monitor at that time, do you see any error messages?
[13:38] <alkisg> Just put the monitor back and see what went wrong
[13:38] <alkisg> No need to try stuff
[13:39] <compdoc> scuba_steve, maybe you already have a machine with the same ip address on the lan
[13:39] <saeron> i have i little question, can i automatic use a comman when a resume after susènd my pc?
[13:39] <odt> hi guys, how can i bisect two mainline kernels, i have a regression and narrowed it down between 2 releases but dont know how the revisions are named (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds)
[13:39] <scuba_steve> when I put the monitor back, I see "Networking failed" on systemctl
[13:39] <scuba_steve> but the machine is working, waiting for login
[13:40] <alkisg> scuba_steve: so you see that the system has booted without any error messages? Paste the output of dmesg and syslog, after such a failed boot
[13:40] <alkisg> scuba_steve: btw, of course you only remove the monitor, not the graphics card, right?
[13:40] <scuba_steve> alright, I'm not near the machine right now, but I'll collect the logs and report back
[13:41] <scuba_steve> yup, just the monitor, the graphics card is still there
[13:41] <alkisg> Also collect the output of journalctl -xe
[13:41] <scuba_steve> I'm thinking about a VGA dummy plug
[13:43] <alkisg> scuba_steve: so, boot without the vga, then put it back, and then before enabling networking etc, run (dmesg; cat /var/log/syslog; journalctl -xe) > output. And then enable networking, and come here with that output file.
[13:43] <quadruple> Hi, I did dd to write an image to a sd card but I forgot to sync. How can I check whether the image was written successfully to the card. Do I have to use dd to create an sd card image and compare the hashes of the images or is there a simpler way?
[13:43] <wandering_vagran> alkisg, apropos to the patching thing that I asked earlier, is there an option of checking which packages will be updated during a security patching? That is, like a yum --security check-update
[13:44] <alkisg> wandering_vagran: I don't know yum. There's apt list --upgradable
[13:44] <scuba_steve> I'll do that! Thanks for the help!
[13:44] <saeron> i have i little question, can i automatic use a comman when a
[13:44] <saeron> i have i little question, can i automatic use a comman when a
[13:44] <saeron> i have i little question, can i automatic use a comman when a resume after susènd my pc?
[13:45] <alkisg> !repeat
[13:45] <nW44b_> hi, is this cron will erase files and folders older than 30 days ? 03 30 * * * find /media/data/.Trash/ -type f -mtime +30 -exec /bin/rm -f {} \;
[13:45] <wandering_vagran> alkisg, yum check-update shows which packages will be updated if yum update is run. Kind of a puppet noop or demo kind of thing
[13:45] <wandering_vagran> let me run apt list --upgradeable
[13:45] <alkisg> wandering_vagran: right, what I wrote above
[13:45] <alkisg> wandering_vagran: there's also --dry-run
[13:46] <wandering_vagran> dry-run
[13:46] <wandering_vagran> duh
[13:47] <Ice_Strike> I have just done sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:47] <Ice_Strike> and now its hanging
[13:47] <nW44b_> oups ... 30 03 * * * find /media/data/.Trash/ -type f -mtime +30 -exec /bin/rm -f {} \;
[13:47] <alkisg> (04:29:13 μμ) alkisg: Ice_Strike: put your /var/log/apt/history.log to pastebin
[13:48] <Ice_Strike> alkisg you mean login again
[13:49] <aluno> ola
[13:49] <alkisg> Ice_Strike: no, just open another terminal somehow, there are many ways for that
[13:49] <aluno> dadsadasda
[13:49] <alkisg> If you have to login to get a terminal, sure, do it that way
[13:49] <aluno> Porn?
[13:49] <Pici> no
[13:49] <aluno> sex video?
[13:49] <alkisg> Only documentaries here
[13:50] <DarkPsydeLord> also this channel must be SFW
[13:50] <Ice_Strike> alkisg https://pastebin.com/cKj4n3JJ
[13:51] <BIG> ola
[13:51] <BIG> ola
[13:51] <tsglove> o/
[13:51] <BIG> alguem??????
[13:52] <BIG> vou me matar
[13:52] <alkisg> Ice_Strike: apt-get upgrade doesn't install new packages as appropriate, it's best to use apt-get dist-upgrade. What is running now? Check with `ps faux`, but if you'll paste things, only paste the processes you see that are appropriate
[13:52] <BIG> suicidio
[13:52] <k1l> BIG: this is the english technical support channel
[13:52] <BIG> help
[13:52] <BIG> help
[13:52] <BIG> SOS
[13:52] <DarkPsydeLord> BIG, por que?
[13:52] <tsglove> k1l, what happened between yesterday and today?    What is the best way to format drives to and from all formats??   Your time starts now!
[14:12] <k1l> Gitup: start ubuntu usb, use gparted
[14:13] <Gitup> mmmm
[14:14] <Gitup> I htought as much
[14:14] <Gitup> thought even
[14:14] <Gitup> Does it support all formats?
[14:14] <Gitup> like... all...?
[14:14] <k1l> did you encounter any errors?
[14:14] <pavlos> bring up gparted and you see the menu, format to >
[14:15] <Gitup> No I have not boted up by Ubuntu box yet but wanted to know for now and in the future as Im always given a hdd that my stupid windows box cant identify...
[14:15] <Gitup> botted*
[14:15] <Gitup> sd cards
[14:15] <Gitup> etc
[14:15] <Gitup> from various raspi's camera's etc
[14:16] <Gitup> I will boot it uo now. It is Server tho so it may take me a moment
[14:16] <Gitup> lol
[14:16] <k1l> Gitup: windows is not the OS with best support outside the windows land. that is different on ubuntu
[14:16] <Guest59578> why chromium always unrespond?
[14:17] <Gitup> Thank you bery much k1l
[14:19] <vincent1897> chromium always unrespond
[14:20] <k1l> vincent1897: try with a  "temporary profile" and see if that is still the same
[14:21] <vincent1897> how to ?
[14:21] <k1l> right mouseclick on the chromium launcher, then chose "open new window with temporary profile"
[14:21] <blip-> guys, why has libapache2-mod-proxy-html package gone on Ubuntu 16.04 ??
[14:22] <vincent1897> thanks  a lot
[14:22] <k1l> !info libapache2-mod-proxy-html trusty | blip-
[14:22] <k1l> blip-: it was a blank package linking to the new one anyway
[14:22] <blip-> !info libapache2-mod-proxy-html xenial
[14:22] <k1l> blip-: see the description
[14:23] <blip-> oh sorry misread
[14:23] <blip-> k1l, im new to apache - is this saying the apache2-bin package includes this lib now?
[14:23] <madking> just reinstalled ubuntu. but not booting into gui instead goes into gnu grub minimal bash thing.
[14:24] <k1l> blip-: looks like that, yes
[14:24] <blip-> k1l, hmm then it should work by default, must be some other issue then.  ty!
[14:32] <Leoneof> hi, if i use Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, does this mean my programs will be updated to latest version? or old version with patchs?
[14:33] <TijG> Leoneof: does that matter? both means are that the software is running the latest version
[14:33] <teward> Leoneof: sort of a mix of both.  YOu'll get whatever versions were in 16.04, and for packages updated by the security team security fixes are patched.  some software in Universe might not be patched unless the community provides patches that are included in the packaging, but ultimately it doesn't exactly matter if they all end up with the 'updates'
[14:37] <Leoneof> thanks folks
[14:39] <opppUser> a
[14:40] <Chen_Vincent> good morning
[14:40] <uddane> Has anyone gotten HBOGo to work with 16.04?
[14:41] <Gitup> k1l
[14:49] <mozammel> Hi, I'm looking for help, I had kubuntu installed on /sda2 and then I have install Deepin Linux on /sda7, and I lost access kubuntu, there is no entity on grub menu, how to fix it ?
[14:49] <leaftype> uddane, have you tried the pipelight-plugin route with firefox? I used to do that with hbonow
[14:51] <uddane> leaftype: tried that this morning along with installing HAL
[14:52] <leaftype> darn. It's the one thing that I use my wife's macbook for. I've thought about canceling the subscription, or maybe testing out the amazon prime version of hbo
[14:52] <wolliton> hi
[14:53] <saymoo> haii
[14:53] <wolliton> vou sair
[14:53] <wolliton> '-'
[14:54] <saymoo> ?
[14:55] <uddane> Has anyone heard of a 'wine' browser?
[15:00] <nicomachus> uddane: what do you mean? like running IE in Wine?
[15:00] <ducasse> uddane: maybe try #winehq for that?
[15:00] <uddane> nicomachus: yes something like that
[15:00] <nicomachus> !wine | uddane
[15:00] <uddane> ducasse: thanks!
[15:01] <saymoo> uddane, are you referring to this? https://wiki.winehq.org/Winebrowser
[15:09] <funkster> damn, had some AWS questions and #aws seems invite only. any chan with AWS people?
[15:10] <saymoo> ##aws is open
[15:13] <uddane> saymoo: yes thats what I was looking for
[15:14] <saymoo> ok
[15:30] <Harry12> Hi
[15:31] <Harry12> I would like to know how to solve an issue that I can't fix
[15:33] <compdoc> we would like to know what is the issue
[15:33] <Harry12> has anyone add a repository and run and update then try to install and the package cannot be found, despite I can see a GET and a HIT against the repository
[15:34] <Harry12> I have installed 16.04
[15:34] <compdoc> the package isnt there, or youre spelling it wrong
[15:34] <Harry12> nop the correct spelling is OK and the package is there
[15:35] <Harry12> never seen this before
[15:35] <nacc> Harry12: what package and what repository
[15:35] <Harry12> https://launchpad.net/~levi-armstrong/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=xenial
[15:37] <Harry12> Get:25 http://ppa.launchpad.net/levi-armstrong/qt-libraries-xenial/ubuntu xenial/main arm64 Packages [912 B] Get:26 http://ppa.launchpad.net/levi-armstrong/qt-libraries-xenial/ubuntu xenial/main Translation-en [3,340 B] Fetched 22.3 kB in 2s (8,978 B/s) Reading package lists... Done  ubuntu@robotsp1:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ sudo apt-get install qt57creator-plugin-ros Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading sta
[15:37] <Harry12> Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package qt57creator-plugin-ros
[15:39] <nacc> Harry12: please use a pastebin
[15:39] <ries> Hey Guys, I am rather old school in this, with so many start/top deamons around… and Ubuntu using different versions, how can I ask the OS if I use upstart /init.d/rc… or whatever else is nowdays invented?
[15:40] <nacc> ries: 14.04 uses upstart, 16.04+ uses systemd
[15:40] <tgm4883> ries: use 'service <servicename> start/stop/restart'
[15:40] <ries> nacc: tgm4883 okie dokie, thanks...
[15:42] <Harry12> https://pastebin.com/Q486p9ML
[15:42] <nacc> Harry12: i get a different message, it's uninstallable in 16.04
[15:42] <ries> nacc: or tgm4883 I have two (apparently not) the same systems.. when I run : service postgresql status for one system I get a one liner (9.4/main (port 5432): online) for my other system I get https://pastebin.com/0DwSXEFN why is this?? /me confused
[15:43] <tgm4883> ries: systemd vs upstart
[15:43] <Harry12> nacc: there are some requirements as having install ROS first
[15:43] <nacc> Harry12: can you pastebin `apt policy qt57creator-plugin-ros` ?
[15:43] <nacc> Harry12: this is what I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24320935/
[15:43] <tgm4883> ries: what are you actually trying to do?
[15:44] <ries> tgm4883: but lsb_release -a reports I am at Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS for both systems…  Or are you using 9.5 on the other box?
[15:47] <Harry12> done it and same issue
[15:47] <nacc> Harry12: don't be selective in your pastebinning. Pastebin entire output
[15:47] <ioria> Harry12,  apt cache policy  qt57creator-plugin-ros
[15:48] <nacc> ries: you would need to reboot the upgraded system for it to swtich, iirc -- has it been rebooted since upgrading?
[15:48] <ries> Sinned_: the idea was to be using PostgreSQL 9.4, I did a dist-upgrade and that apparently upgarded PostgreSQL from 9.4 to 9.5.. and it didn;t start PG after the update… I am confused as it should never update postgresql to a newer version.
[15:48] <ries> nacc: it was not re-booted
[15:49] <Sinned_> ries: it looks to me you got 1 instance of 9.5 running idd, which is the one with multiple lines
[15:49] <ries> Sinned_: correvt
[15:49] <Sinned_> so, that would explain the difference in the output of status
[15:49] <nacc> ries: where did you run dist-upgrade? which version?
[15:50] <ries> nacc: on both of them, to get rid of the message that there are security updates.. unless I mis-understand, that’s the only way to get them in
[15:50] <nacc> ries: postgresql-9.4 is only i 15.04 which is eol
[15:50] <nacc> ries: i don't have the context, please answer with versions
[15:50] <nacc> postgresql-9.5 is in 16.04 and 16.10
[15:51] <Harry12> nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24320960/
[15:51] <ries> nacc: I think we got 9.4 from backports… asking my DB guy right now
[15:51] <nacc> Harry12: using ports.ubuntu.com -- not x86?
[15:51] <nacc> ries: uh ... so again, which ubuntu version?
[15:51] <nacc> ries: it's not in backports eitehr
[15:52] <ries> nacc: I am at Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS for both servers
[15:52] <Harry12> nacc: m it is not an x86 is a arm Nvidia TX1
[15:52] <nacc> uh, then it definitely wouldn't be in backports
[15:52] <Sinned_> ries and nacc correct me if im wrong, but doing an upgrade to 16.04.2 wil upgrade postgres aswell, not?
[15:53] <nacc> ries: can you start over and tell me what you did and what is going on? still feel like i'm missing context
[15:53] <nacc> ries: if you're on 16.04, it's totally expected to be on pg 9.5
[15:53] <tgm4883> Sinned_: yes
[15:53] <Sinned_> Yes idd, and he seems to be stuck on 9.4 ?
[15:53] <nacc> Sinned_: and yes
[15:53] <tgm4883> nacc: half upgrade maybe?
[15:53] <Sinned_> strange lol
[15:53] <nacc> tgm4883: yeah if one of the two didn't fully upgrade, the it's possible the old pg is still around
[15:53] <Harry12> mmm, sure , I iwll need to get the source and compile it from scratch
[15:54] <nacc> Harry12: right, that ppa only builds for amd64 and i386
[15:54] <nacc> Harry12: problem solved :)
[15:55] <Harry12> nacc: cool, I'm feel silly, Thanks mate
[15:55] <nacc> Harry12: general hint (as we get lots of reports) -- more, concise information is better. If you had said "I am trying to use this PPA <insert PPA> on arm", would have been able to tell you the problem immediately :)
[15:58] <IceNine|> hello all, ubuntu newbie here, i have an issue with docker containers starting before a remote share is mounted, which makes me have to restart the containers manually.  How can i add a dependency on the docker service so it starts after the remote share(s) have been mounted?  any help is appreciated, thanks
[15:58] <IceNine|> running Ubuntu 16.10
[15:59] <kantlivelong> well this is lame. latest NetworkManager breaks adding DNS for OpenVPN connection
[16:00] <nacc> IceNine|: RequireMountsFor= in your docker unit?
[16:00] <ries> nacc: FOund the issue, 50unattended-upgrades hada line in there that allowd all packages top be updated, not only security….wtf...
[16:00] <Sinned_> ries: isnt that default?
[16:00] <Sinned_> if you want security updates only, you have to edit it I think
[16:01] <nacc> it's a choice when you set it up, iirc
[16:01] <ries> Sinned_: I have no idea, that default looks rather odd, since it allows upgrading of important packages. Nobody want’s top upgrade from PG 9.4 to 9.5 all out of the blue
[16:02] <nacc> ries: that would never happen
[16:02] <nacc> ries: as i said, 9.4 -> 9.5 is a release upgrade
[16:02] <nacc> ries: no single release has that
[16:02] <ries> nacc: apparently it did… I would look further,,,,
[16:02] <tgm4883> ries: no, it didn't
[16:02] <nacc> ries: and neither is published in any backports
[16:03] <tgm4883> ries: it's literally impossible for it to have happened the way you are saying it did
[16:03] <tgm4883> ries: now if you had added some PPA.....
[16:03] <nacc> ries: unless you are using a PPA
[16:03] <nacc> tgm4883: ^5 :)
[16:03] <tgm4883> nacc: ^5
[16:03] <WXZ> how come my guest OS crashes when I try to access a shared drive?
[16:03] <Sinned_> I'm gonna stick here in these channels, learn so much ^^
[16:04] <WXZ> it's actually a vmdk to a real OS but still
[16:06] <nacc> WXZ: what virtualization server and what guest OS?
[16:06] <Harry12> nacc: thank you for the tip, I will keep it in mind
[16:06] <nacc> Harry12: np
[16:07] <Harry12> bye
[16:07] <WXZ> nacc: ubuntu host, windows 7 guest
[16:07] <tgm4883> ries: As nacc previously said, Postgres 9.4 isn't available on 16.04. So if you are on 16.04, you can't have 9.4 unless A) Your upgrade to 16.04 bombed out at some point  and you are in some sort of half-state or B) You've got some PPA and apt pinning taking place (which you should really know since you would have had to do that)
[16:08] <Guest43057> How can I insert an em dash(—) on Ubuntu?
[16:09] <wxl> Guest43057: set up your compose key and then <compose>--
[16:09] <nacc> WXZ: and what is the virt solution kvm?
[16:09] <nacc> WXZ: sorry meant to be: solution? kvm?
[16:09] <Guest43057> wxl: Compose key?
[16:10] <Guest43057> where can I find that option?
[16:10] <WXZ> nacc: I don't know what a virtual solution is
[16:10] <nacc> WXZ: vmware, qemu directly, virt-manager, xen
[16:10] <nacc> WXZ: what are you using to virtualize?
[16:11] <WXZ> nacc: just virtualbox
[16:11] <wxl> Guest43057: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ComposeKey
[16:11] <nacc> WXZ: ok and does virtualbox crash? or windows?
[16:11] <WXZ> virtualbox crashes
[16:11] <nacc> WXZ: if windows is crashing, it's presumably a windows bug
[16:11] <WXZ> it aborts the machine
[16:11] <nacc> WXZ: ok, see if there are bugs for it already?
[16:12] <WXZ> nacc: I did search, yes, I'm trying to use a shared folder for another host/guest right now see if I get crashes as well
[16:12] <WXZ> ubuntu-host ubuntu-guest
[16:12] <Guest43057> wxl: thanks
[16:12] <nacc> WXZ: ok
[16:13] <nacc> WXZ: how are you sharing?
[16:13] <ioria> Guest43057, you can also use the unicode   ctrl+shift+u then press 2014
[16:14] <WXZ> nacc: there's an option in the settings GUI of the virtual machine
[16:14] <WXZ> there's a tab which asks which folders you want to share
[16:15] <IceNine|> nacc: so something like this?
[16:15] <IceNine|> [unit]
[16:15] <IceNine|> RequiresMountsFor= /path_to_mount1 /path_to_mount2
[16:15] <Guest43057> ioria: that's a lot better haha
[16:15] <ioria> lol
[16:16] <wxl> Guest43057: for a one time application, a lot better. i use mine all the time.
[16:16] <pavlos> WXZ, there should be a \\vboxsvr\sharename
[16:17] <ioria> Guest43057, the problem with compose key is that deactivate a key...  and you'll never remember why
[16:17] <nacc> WXZ: ok, i don't know much about vbox -- maybe it's a known not to work with windows thing?
[16:17] <nacc> IceNine|: probably? i'm not sure, you can read `man systemd.unit` for syntax
[16:18] <WXZ> nacc: almost done with checking on the ubuntu guest
[16:18] <WXZ> pavlos: and yes, I can access the shared drive, just I can't make any changes to it or I get a crash
[16:19] <pavlos> WXZ, ok, I assume you have VB extensions installed
[16:20] <WXZ> pavlos: yes
[16:20] <WXZ> nacc: it does seem to be a windows only problem
[16:20] <WXZ> because on the ubuntu guest, it's totally fine
[16:21] <WXZ> I have another theory, I"m going to see if it's a problem with auto-mounting the drive rather than mapping it in the network
[16:27] <pavlos> WXZ, just tried it on ubuntu-host, win10-guest, shared a drive (/mnt/public) and \\vboxsvr\public on win10 was visible
[16:28] <WXZ> pavlos: this might be a bit different since the guest is actually a real machine
[16:28] <WXZ> it's a vmdk which points to my /dev/sdb2 partitiotn
[16:28] <trdat> hi
[16:34] <carol__> any one there?
[16:35] <nacc> carol__: yes, see the names list
[16:35] <Azulflame> only ~1.9k of us
[16:36] <carol__> help me to make that ubuntu studio never ask me again to update it
[16:36] <effectnet> hello
[16:37] <wxl> doesn't ubuntu studio have a channel?
[16:37] <wxl> there's sometimes wee differences between flavors
[16:37] <carol__> channels
[16:37] <OerHeks> carol__, go into sources, and see tab[ updates] and isable them all, or set them to 'never' ( i wonder why you want that)
[16:37] <wxl> that said https://askubuntu.com/questions/218755/how-to-disable-the-update-manager-popup#218780
[16:37] <carol__> channels?
[16:38] <carol__> how?
[16:38] <nacc> wxl: they do
[16:38] <Azulflame> carol__, to be clear, he means IRC channels
[16:38] <OerHeks> c/isable/disable
[16:38] <nacc> carol__: do you mean you don't want to be asked about updates or you don't want to any updates?
[16:38] <amazon4BTC> hey im trading $250 amazon giftcards for $60 in bitcoin pm me!
[16:38] <carol__> sorry, premium time
[16:38] <effectnet> how do i see what my windows drive is called /dev? for mount?
[16:39] <Azulflame> effectnet, parted -l
[16:39] <effectnet> thx
[16:39] <Azulflame> and if you can't decipher it, do # parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:39] <Azulflame> and paste it here
[16:39] <OerHeks> effectnet, sudo fdisk -l # will show the ntfs/exfat partitions labeled /dev/sda1 or something
[16:40] <effectnet> thx
[16:40] <Azulflame> yes, I meant to use fdisk, not parted
[16:40] <Azulflame> pareted is interactive, while fdisk can do -l
[16:40] <effectnet> all good :D
[16:40] <carol__> let me explain you tommoro please
[16:40] <nacc> !spam | amazon4BTC
[16:40] <wxl> nacc: #ubuntustudio?
[16:40] <nacc> wxl: i think that's right
[16:41] <wxl> carol__: yeah, you can /join #ubuntustudio and talk directly to the ubuntu studio folks
[16:43] <musta> hello
[16:43] <musta> is anybody here ?
[16:43] <Azulflame> only 1.8k of us
[16:43] <wxl> hahahahahah
[16:43] <Sinned_> :D
[16:43] <musta> hahaha
[16:43] <musta> that was funny
[16:43] <musta> i am newbie
[16:43] <Sinned_> for we are many!
[16:43] <wxl>  !here is <reply> only 1.8k of us
[16:43] <musta> no
[16:43] <Azulflame> musta: we can tell
[16:43] <wxl> hahah darn
[16:44] <musta> for me being new :P
[16:44] <OerHeks> !ot
[16:44] <musta> so can i ask a question
[16:44] <musta> ?
[16:44] <Sinned_> shoot
[16:44] <Azulflame> !welcome
[16:44] <mrgreenfur> anyone know if Ubunt 16.04 uses Systemd or upstart?
[16:44] <nacc> mrgreenfur: systemd
[16:44] <Sinned_> mrgreenfur: systemd
[16:44] <mrgreenfur> thanks!
[16:44] <nacc> !ask | musta
[16:44] <musta> i wanna run irssi privatley between me and my friend
[16:44] <Azulflame> right, no phrik here
[16:45] <musta> can i do such a thing ?
[16:45] <wxl> musta: you'd want to set up your own irc server, ideally.
[16:45] <nacc> musta: irssi is an IRC client
[16:45] <musta> aha
[16:45] <mrgreenfur> systemd doesn’t use the /etc/init.d/* files right?
[16:45] <wxl> and probably ssl support :/
[16:45] <mrgreenfur> kinda lost in the init scripts :)
[16:45] <genii> mrgreenfur: Upstart uses /etc/init/ Systemd uses /etc/init.d/
[16:45] <Azulflame> Couldn't they use Freenode and just whisper each other? one to start the process, then use the same window
[16:45] <musta> then i have to create my own server and connect to it using irssi right ?
[16:46] <mrgreenfur> aha thanks genii
[16:46] <Sinned_> musta: Correct
[16:46] <wxl> musta: yep, if you want total control over it. otherwise, you can do an invite only channel or private messages or something.
[16:46] <musta> great thanks for your answer guys now i know what to do :)
[16:46] <Azulflame> musta, you could also use Freenode (what you're on) and just private message your friend
[16:46] <Azulflame> I don't know if that would keep logs, but that would be dependant on your client
[16:46] <musta> Freenode is a tool ?
[16:47] <wxl> freenode is the server you're on
[16:47] <Azulflame> Freenode is the IRC server you are connected to
[16:47] <Sinned_> Hehe, its an IRC server, where we chat on right now :D
[16:47] <effectnet> hmm when i try mount it says that it's already exclusively open.  it might be mounted, or in use by a software.
[16:47] <Azulflame> #ubuntu is on Freenode
[16:47] <musta> aha hahaha
[16:47] <musta> forgive my noobness :P
[16:47] <Azulflame> we forgive
[16:47] <Azulflame> but we do not forget
[16:47] <nacc> fwiw, none of this is ontopic :)
[16:47] <Sinned_> But I think there are also IRC servers, where you can register your own private channel, and put a bot into it, Quakenet servers had such thing
[16:47] <nacc> not really an Uubntu support issue
[16:47] <nacc> *Ubuntu
[16:47] <musta> :D
[16:47] <wxl> effectnet: `mount | grep /dev/whatever`
[16:47] <WXZ> nacc, pavlos: my vbox was out of date
[16:47] <nacc> WXZ: ah
[16:47] <WXZ> updating solved the issue, thanks for the help
[16:48] <effectnet> k
[16:48] <wxl> effectnet: if you see something, it's mounted (and will tell you where). if you don't, it's not.
[16:48] <xok> hello all..
[16:48] <Sinned_> Hi xok
[16:48] <xok> I have a dnsmasq installed on the server, it works fine...
[16:48] <wxl> musta: it all depends on your definition of privacy. if you're really hardcore, you might want to think tor.
[16:48] <Azulflame> musta, if you want to have your own IRC server, look at Raspberry Pis and head on over to #raspian or #raspberrypi
[16:48] <xok> I am able to download the file from the same machine...
[16:48] <xok> the machine from the same network was able to grab the file too...
[16:49] <musta> how to exit this session xD ? iam stuck
[16:49] <xok> but it doesn't download the file from the public IP address...
[16:49] <effectnet> wxl sweet i had the wrong drive, nice :D
[16:49] <Azulflame> musta, that's client dependant
[16:49] <xok> can anyone help me have the tftp working please?..
[16:49] <Azulflame> but if you're in Hexchat (ubuntu default) then click on the X in the upper right corner
[16:50] <nacc> xok: what does dnsmasq have to do with anything?
[16:50] <wxl> effectnet: so you're all good then?
[16:50] <Sinned_> xok: im confused, what file?
[16:50] <nacc> why do so many people insist on setting up tftp here?
[16:50] <effectnet> yes thank you
[16:50] <wxl> musta: assuming you're on irssi /quit
[16:50] <Sinned_> and hee's gone hehe
[16:50] <genii> nacc: Probably because they can't figure out scp syntax
[16:50] <xok> Sinned_: I am trying to setup the PXE boot, the file named pxelinux.0 is supposed to be downloaded...
[16:50] <dougstew5> musta: did you  see my message
[16:50] <nacc> xok: ah ok
[16:50] <xok> but we get something like this: sent RRQ <file=pxelinux.0, mode=octet> Transfer timed out.
[16:51] <wxl> nacc: well, there are documents suggesting as such on the wiki
[16:51] <wxl> (for particular use cases)
[16:51] <nacc> xok: more than likely your tftp server is not listening on the public interface
[16:51] <Sinned_> if it does listen on public interface, maybe some port forwarding?
[16:51] <xok> nacc: well, first of all it does... but secondly, the client machines are not able to grab that file neither...
[16:52] <Sinned_> can you telnet the IP/port where tftp runs on (public ip)? does it connect?
[16:52] <nacc> xok: ok, you need to write more clearly the configuration and what happens (with logs) from clients and servers (all in a pastebin)
[16:53] <xok> nacc: https://clbin.com/fcsd4
[16:53] <xok> this is the dnsmasq.conf file..
[16:54] <xok> nacc: and this is the error: https://clbin.com/9cZ2l
[16:55] <nacc> xok: and that file does exist?
[16:55] <xok> what file?..
[16:55] <genii> pxelinux.0
[16:55] <nacc> xok: /home/pxe/pxelinux.0
[16:55] <starrynite7> i swear i saw the exact same questions yesterday when i joined this chat, like literally exactly the same, is this a bot or something?
[16:55] <xok> yes, I was able to download it from other machine...
[16:56] <nacc> xok: using tftp?
[16:56] <xok> and it worked just fine...
[16:56] <nacc> xok: *ftp
[16:56] <xok> nacc: yes...
[16:56] <nacc> xok: ok, be specific "download" means lots of things potentially :)
[16:56] <xok> using tftp, not regular ftp...
[16:56] <nacc> xok: ok, and the other machine you used before, what's the difference between it and the one where it fails?
[16:56] <xok> nacc: I was able to connect to the TFTP server and download the file pxelinux.0 with tftp client...
[16:57] <xok> the machine I used is a regular system with tftp client installed...
[16:57] <xok> the machine not working is a clean machine which boots from the network..
[16:57] <nacc> xok: and if you do it with the one where it fails, are you able to list directories and see pxelinux.0?
[16:57] <xok> it gets an IP address but nothing else as it can't download the file...
[16:58] <xok> nacc: the system that fails doesn't get in the OS session...
[16:58] <xok> there's no chance to test such things...
[16:58] <xok> it's on the same network as the machine which was able to grab the same file...
[16:59] <Sinned_> xok: http://linux.xvx.cz/2010/04/pxe-server-using-dnsmasq-and.html did you checked this? can it have something todo with routing/nat? Just trying to help :)
[16:59] <nacc> xok: i think it implies a timeout from the client
[17:00] <xok> Sinned_: actually there is NAT...
[17:00] <Sinned_> xok: I would try what he describes all below then I think
[17:00] <xok> Sinned_: but if that was a problem with NAT then other servers should not be able to download files...
[17:00] <xok> Sinned_: yes, thank you very much, we'll try that too...
[17:00] <nacc> xok: what is different about the failing server?
[17:01] <xok> nacc: well, actually nothing...
[17:01] <nacc> xok: then why did you mention 'public interface' earlier?
[17:01] <xok> nacc: well, that probably was wrong...
[17:01] <xok> I was trying to connect to the server from my personal laptop through the public IP address and got the same result...
[17:02] <nacc> xok: you can run dnsmasq in the foreground and log queries and such
[17:03] <xok> when I tried to download the file from the local network the server worked just fine...
[17:03] <xok> when I tried from the public address it didn't work...
[17:03] <xok> and it's good I think, that way we should be able to track the problem...
[17:04] <nacc> xok: i'm confused, your dnsmasq.conf has a specific interface specified. Have you assigned two IPs to it?
[17:04] <Sinned_> xok: but you downloaded it with a regular, TFTP client right? Not the PXE boot
[17:04] <xok> Sinned_: yes..
[17:05] <xok> nacc: yes, you are right, it wouldn't work, thank you ..
[17:05] <Sinned_> which is different, so let us focus on the pxe boot fail thing. How many IP's you got setup?
[17:05] <xok> nacc: it was bound to the different interface and will never work for the public...
[17:05] <nacc> xok: right, as i said before ... :)
[17:05] <xok> I just thought I caught the problem, but it seems I didn't...
[17:06] <xok> I am out of ideas..
[17:06] <xok> I don't know what to think anymore...
[17:06] <xok> the machine from the same network is able to grab the file and everything seems to be working just fine...
[17:06] <xok> but when it gets to the PXE the client systems are not able to download the pxelinux.0 file..
[17:08] <Sinned_> xok: on what interface does dnsmasq listen?
[17:09] <Sinned_> p4p1? that the only interface u got?
[17:09] <sveinse> How do I check what DNS servers is configured on 16.04?
[17:09] <xok> Sinned_: p4p1
[17:09] <xok> Sinned_: no, there are several, but this one is dedicated to the PXE thing...
[17:09] <nacc> sveinse: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[17:09] <sveinse> nacc: nope, this only contains reference to <IP_ADDRESS>. I need my local dns server's config
[17:11] <ioria> sveinse, grep -i nameserver  /var/log/syslog
[17:12] <sveinse> ioria: thanks
[17:12] <ioria> sveinse, ok
[17:14] <xok> nacc: any ideas?...
[17:15] <mehdi_> cv
[17:16] <mehdi_> cv
[17:16] <ries> tgm4883: nac, thank’s for your advices. Apparently our DB persion had PG 9.4 and 9.4 installed. During the updates Ubuntu stopped 9.4 and started 9.5. Who knew :)
[17:16] <mehdi_> hello
[17:17] <nacc> xok: and is p4p1 the public interface?
[17:17] <xok> nacc: no, it's a local one...
[17:17] <xok> nacc: with an address <IP_ADDRESS> and netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:18] <nacc> xok: i don't understand how you think tftp over the public ip would work if tftp isn't listening on it?
[17:19] <xok> nacc: yes, I was wrong about it...
[17:19] <xok> nacc: that was my mistake, I told you thank you for that... :-)
[17:19] <nacc> xok: right, so my suggestion is .. fix that
[17:20] <mark__> hello im new
[17:21] <compdoc> hurray!  \o/
[17:21] <mark__> i love ubuntu
[17:23] <kantlivelong> anyone here use OpenVPN with NetworkManager? It doesn't seem to add DNS entries any more since an update
[17:23] <mstenta> I have a question about crontab. I have a file in /etc/cron.d with my crontab, but I am trying to run the command as the "www-data" user. I have "www-data" in the 6th column, per the documentation (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto), but cron is giving an error: "/bin/sh: 1: www-data: not found"
[17:24] <nacc> mstenta: can you pastebin the crontab entry?
[17:25] <mstenta> 10 * * * * www-data [command]
[17:25] <mstenta> nacc: ah just saw your message
[17:25] <mstenta> i'll pastebin the full command... one sec
[17:25] <nacc> mstenta: that page specifies that is only allowed in /etc/crontab
[17:25] <nacc> mstenta: and that it's not recommended :)
[17:26] <mark__> hello
[17:26] <mstenta> nacc: oh really? re-reading...
[17:27] <nacc> mstenta: maybe :) i'm re-reading too
[17:27] <nacc> mstenta: yeah, `man 5 crontab`
[17:27] <GreeningGalaxy> did I read this right? Is Ubuntu really dropping Unity?
[17:27] <nacc> mstenta: only /etc/crontab supports it
[17:27] <mstenta> nacc: oh ok... thanks
[17:28] <tgm4883> GreeningGalaxy: no?
[17:28] <nacc> GreeningGalaxy: link?
[17:28] <dougquaid> I'm having problems with mongo and rocketchat installed via snap. Where can I find their logs? They're not in the usual /var/log
[17:28] <nacc> dougquaid: you may want to ask in #snappy
[17:28] <GreeningGalaxy> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/
[17:28] <Pici> nacc, tgm4883: looks like it: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/
[17:28] <dougquaid> nacc: thanks
[17:28] <nacc> GreeningGalaxy: and yes, for unity8
[17:29] <nacc> Pici: yeah, i've seen it now thanks!
[17:29] <GreeningGalaxy> nacc: this says they're dropping unity8
[17:29] <Pici> GreeningGalaxy: anyway, keep in mind that we're just volunteers here, and news posted 7 minutes ago is news to us too.
[17:29] <GreeningGalaxy> gotcha
[17:29] <GreeningGalaxy> I didn't realize that was 7 minutes ago, lol. I saw it on twitter and assumed it was at least a few hours old.
[17:30] <EriC^^> so unity 7 will stay, and unity 8 won't get developed?
[17:30] <tgm4883> EriC^^: no, going back to Gnome it seems
[17:30] <GreeningGalaxy> damn. As much as I was originally resistant to the switch from GNOME 2 to Unity, I was looking forward to Unity 8
[17:30] <EriC^^> tgm4883: wow
[17:30] <nacc> EriC^^: in 18.04, i think it will be gnome
[17:30] <nicomachus> aw
[17:31] <tgm4883> Let's keep in mind this is all off topic for this channel
[17:31] <tgm4883> !discuss
[17:31] <nacc> :)
[17:32] <mehdi_><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:32] <dbugger> Hi everyone
[17:32] <dbugger> i connected to see the fuzz that would be going about the news ^^
[17:33] <immu_> people people
[17:33] <immu_> have u heard the news
[17:34] <immu_> I’m writing to let you know that we will end our investment in Unity8, the phone and convergence shell. We will shift our default Ubuntu desktop back to GNOME for Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
[17:34] <dbugger> I just did ^^
[17:34] <Pici> !discuss
[17:34] <tgm4883> immu_: dbugger #ubuntu-discuss
[17:34] <ice9> what a surprise, no more Unity :D
[17:34] <immu_> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/
[17:35] <dbugger> Im still unsure if it is good or bad :D
[17:35] <nicomachus> !ot | dbugger
[17:35] <dbugger> sorry i wont say more about it ^^
[17:35] <OerHeks> please take the news-talk to #ubuntu-discuss, thanks.
[17:36] <tgm4883> I'd suggest a change to /topic, but I doubt most people even read that
[17:38] <cnnx> i have a cronjob not running in crontab, its my only one, im on lunbuntu
[17:38] <KamiRath> so ubuntu ends support for unity eh?
[17:38] <cnnx> what can i check?
[17:38] <cnnx> if i run it directly it works
[17:38] <cnnx> but not at a time
[17:38] <immu_> sorry guy i am so shocked , please excuse me
[17:38] <tgm4883> !discuss | KamiRath
[17:39] <tgm4883> This channel is going to be crap today
[17:39] <nicomachus> lol
[17:39] <dbugger> xD
[17:39] <EriC^^> cnnx: pastebin the crontab lin
[17:39] <nicomachus> pack it up, everyone go home
[17:39] <dbugger> embrace it ;)
[17:39] <EriC^^> line
[17:39] <dbugger> In a weird way, it can be categorized as support xD
[17:40] <cnnx> EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/3bG3F7q9
[17:40] <EriC^^> cnnx: where do you have that put?
[17:40] <cnnx> EriC^^: crontab -e
[17:41] <EriC^^> cnnx: try "grep CRON /var/log/syslog"
[17:41] <EriC^^> anything about it running?
[17:41] <cnnx> well now i started it manually
[17:41] <cnnx> cause it needs to run
[17:41] <cnnx> so that would invalidate your test
[17:41] <wellick> hi. how can I see the name of the physical interface that connects to the internet on my computer?
[17:41] <EriC^^> cnnx: how did you start it manually? O.o
[17:41] <nicomachus> wellick: 'sudo lshw -C network'
[17:41] <cnnx> i pasted the exact same command in the shell
[17:42] <EriC^^> cnnx: ok that won't invalidate it
[17:42] <cnnx> ok hang on
[17:43] <cnnx> EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/S7MWb7E1
[17:44] <EriC^^> cnnx: it shows in "crontab -l" ?
[17:44] <cnnx> yes
[17:44] <cnnx> could it be maybe its using vixie-cron or another cron?
[17:44] <ericsean> amel
[17:45] <EriC^^> cnnx: no idea, try "systemctl status cron"
[17:45] <cnnx> EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/ZNe4LRiP
[17:49] <EriC^^> cnnx: no idea
[17:49] <cnnx> EriC^^: ok thanks for trying :)
[17:50] <EriC^^> np :)
[17:52] <EriC^^> cnnx: does it work if you put * * * * * for the time?
[17:55] <cnnx> EriC^^: isnt that for every minute?
[17:55] <EriC^^> cnnx: yeah, just as a test to see
[17:56] <cnnx> EriC^^: i wont try it with this script, let me make a simple script
[17:56] <EriC^^> cnnx: ok
[17:58] <cnnx> EriC^^: yes my test script worked, it created a /tmp/testme.txt file
[17:59] <EriC^^> cnnx: ok, it's something to do with the time then, try "date" in the terminal i think that's what cron uses
[17:59] <cnnx> Wed Apr  5 13:59:21 EDT 2017
[17:59] <EriC^^> cnnx: try it with 01 14 * * *
[18:00] <cnnx> EriC^^: ok
[18:01] <cnnx> EriC^^: it didnt work
[18:01] <cnnx> its psased 14:01
[18:02] <EriC^^> that's odd
[18:03] <cnnx> EriC^^: i set it for 3-4 mins ahead
[18:03] <EriC^^> did you use also the simple script?
[18:03] <cnnx> maybe 1 minute was too close
[18:03] <cnnx> yes
[18:03] <EriC^^> ok
[18:03] <rodney77> hello, isn't Startup Disk Creator supposed to make any kind of startup USB? I am on 16.04, and the only .iso it will even recognize is an ubuntu ISO.
[18:04] <EriC^^> rodney77: yes, install unetbootin for other iso's
[18:04] <nacc> rodney77: startup disk creator is for creating ubuntu startup disks
[18:05] <cnnx> EriC^^: didnt work
[18:05] <rodney77> i see. thanks EriC^^, nacc. I also tried making a kaspersky rescue disk and hiren's boot cd, with unetbootin. Neither worked. However, I have an ubuntu usb stick that I can boot from
[18:05] <Azulflame> just dd the .iso
[18:06] <Azulflame> or unetbootin or rufus if you want a GUI
[18:07] <Sinned_> .
[18:07] <stevenh> How does everyone here feel about ubuntu dropping Unity?
[18:07] <kostkon> !ot
[18:08] <rodney77> whoa stevenh, that's good news. untity sucks
[18:08] <stevenh> Do you guys expect Unity to live on like a community project
[18:08] <rodney77> i only use gnome flashback
[18:08] <stevenh> I personally already preferred Gnome
[18:08] <BluesKaj> heh , not exactly offtopic IMO
[18:08] <ReimuHakurei> RIP Unity
[18:08] <EriC^^> cnnx: it must be that cron is using a different time, googling a little about it
[18:08] <wedgie> lolwut? When did this happen?
[18:08] <rodney77> maybe it's because ubuntu touch is a flop?
[18:09] <stevenh> I wonder if my ubuntu gnome will roll into vanilla ubuntu
[18:09] <ReimuHakurei> I feel like i'm the only person who actually liked it, though it'd be nice if it was more customizable
[18:09] <EriC^^> cnnx: it seems like a common issue
[18:09] <stevenh> @wedgie: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/
[18:09] <OerHeks> please take the unity-news-talk to #ubuntu-discuss, thanks.
[18:09] <ReimuHakurei> and it's been ages since i've used Linux as my main desktop OS, since I use Windows on my PCs (though Ubuntu Server is awesome)
[18:09] <cnnx> EriC^^: i have a clue now thats you said that
[18:09] <cnnx> i logged out, logged back in
[18:09] <cnnx> and look
[18:09] <cnnx> Last login: Wed Apr  5 12:56:20 2017 from <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:10] <cnnx> oh wait
[18:10] <cnnx> thats right
[18:10] <immu> whats the channel for ubuntu discusss
[18:10] <Azulflame> there's #ubuntu
[18:11] <Azulflame> and the off-topic channel
[18:11] <Azulflame> !ot
[18:11] <tgm4883> !discuss
[18:11] <ReimuHakurei> immu: #ubuntu-discuss
[18:14] <EriC^^> cnnx: try "sudo systemctl restart cron"
[18:14] <cnnx> EriC^^: hang on i'm trying one more thing
[18:14] <EriC^^> cnnx: i'm thinking the cron clock isn't off because in the first paste the cron daily ran at 6;25 and on my pc it says 6;25 too, ok
[18:16] <cnnx> EriC^^: i fixed it!
[18:16] <EriC^^> cnnx: cool, how?
[18:16] <cnnx> EriC^^: i had run tzselect for the root user initially to set the right time zone in .bashrc, but i didn't do that for my home user and im logging in ssh as my home user andd the su to root
[18:16] <cnnx> for some reason now it works
[18:16] <samfreenode> wtf Ubuntu is abandoning Unity?
[18:17] <cnnx> EriC^^: trying with my main script again now
[18:17] <cnnx> as a final test
[18:17] <EriC^^> cnnx: aha, ok
[18:17] <cnnx> EriC^^: cause at 3am i dont wanna be sitting here
[18:18] <ReimuHakurei> samfreenode: #ubuntu-discuss
[18:18] <Malusu> Hi guys! When I compile software from source, what is the main bottleneck when it comes to speed? CPU, RAM or filesystem I/O?
[18:19] <gimpy0455> Malusu: any of the above plus other bottlenecks, it varies by system
[18:20] <KristijanZic> Guys, wtf is going on? What is happening with Ubuntu desktop? Is Mark serious? Will someone pick up Unity8 development?
[18:20] <choki> where is simonnl?
[18:20] <gimpy0455> when compiling a tarball with spmbuild, how can I see the output of configure?  is config.log saved somewhere?
[18:20] <cnnx> EriC^^: funny it didnt work
[18:20] <nicomachus> KristijanZic: /join #ubuntu-discuss for that please
[18:20] <gimpy0455> whoops, wrong channel
[18:21] <choki> KristijanZic: what do you mean?
[18:21] <musta> hi
[18:21] <musta> :P
[18:21] <KristijanZic> choki: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/
[18:21] <EriC^^> cnnx: with the simple one it did?
[18:21] <choki> wtf
[18:21] <cnnx> EriC^^: yes
[18:21] <wedgie> Malusu: i'll bet that #gentoo will have some strong opinions (and experience) on that :P
[18:21] <nicomachus> choki: language. seriously. I'm tired of warning people.
[18:22] <choki> ok sorry ^^
[18:22] <EriC^^> cnnx: did it say it ran it in "grep CRON /var/log/syslog" ?
[18:22] <choki> nicomachus: you're very kind!
[18:24] <cnnx> EriC^^: no
[18:24] <cnnx> EriC^^: trying test one again
[18:24] <EriC^^> cnnx: does it mention the simple scripts in grep CRON ?
[18:26] <asdf__> hi
[18:26] <musta> hi back
[18:26] <alkisg> KristijanZic: yey!!! Thanks for the great news!
[18:26] <alkisg> Finally no more Unity!!!
[18:26] <cnnx> EriC^^: wow the test one isnt running anymore
[18:26] <alkisg> (I hope this isn't a late April's fools joke...)
[18:27] <EriC^^> cnnx: try to restart cron maybe it has to catch up with the tzselect stuff
[18:27] <cnnx> ok
[18:27] <nicomachus> alkisg: /join #ubuntu-discuss for that please.
[18:27] <alkisg> nicomachus: nah, that was all of it
[18:27] <alkisg> nicomachus: such newsworthy links are appropriate to share
[18:28] <cnnx> EriC^^: nope
[18:28] <Malusu> wedgie: thanks! you'r absolutely right, I should ask this on a gentoo channel. Who else would have more expertise when it comes to compiling :D
[18:29] <wedgie> they'll have all the protips for squeezing out every last bit of performance
[18:30] <matteo__> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&amp%3Bpx=Ubuntu-Dropping-Unity