[03:17] <reka> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[03:17] <reka> make: *** [threshold]  Error 1
[03:17] <we2by> you can't install mysql through apt-get?
[03:17] <danko123456> you can, yes.
[03:17] <adam_> ??
[03:17] <adam_> and for me, just Gimp?
[03:18] <PhotonX> ubuntus burnin :D
[03:18] <Echelon-H> hi
[03:18] <PhotonX> wishmeluck guys
[03:18] <ompaul> any program worth its salt will be available with apt-get
[03:18] <Hajuu> http://pastebin.com/291656 -- Theres my httpd.conf ... Anyone tell me why connections from me to myself are "forbidden" to "/" ?
[03:18] <ompaul> some really new bleeding edge stuff might not have made it there but such is life
[03:18] <tiglionabbit> good luck, photonx
[03:18] <reka> anyone else experience this problem?
[03:18] <Echelon-H> Breezy is the new very of ubuntu I guess?
[03:19] <cablefish> can i get xmms player working in ubuntu gnome?
[03:19] <tiglionabbit> ompaul: anything worth its salt that has been available for 3 years you mean
[03:19] <reka> cablefish: yep.  i'd check out beep-media-player though.  it's cleaner
[03:19] <reka> Echelon-H: correct
[03:19] <liwen> some difficulty for me
[03:19] <cert> hei people curios anyone know how to convert mpeg files to avi or rm ??
[03:19] <cert> in linux platform
[03:19] <cablefish> beep media player... i'll check it out
[03:19] <cert> what software am i looking for?
[03:20] <danko123> good luck.
[03:20] <PhotonX> mencoder probably?
[03:20] <PhotonX> comes with mplayer i think
[03:20] <ompaul> tiglionabbit, still newer than XP but then let me see ubuntu is how old ;-)
[03:20] <liwen> linux is some difficulty for me.
[03:20] <Echelon-H> is there anyway I can communicate with my ntfs partition through linux?
[03:20] <danko123> Hajuu: please rephrase yoru question
[03:20] <PhotonX> research captive-ntf, Echelon-H
[03:20] <PhotonX> ntfs*
[03:20] <Psyco> hi
[03:20] <danko123> hey
[03:20] <PhotonX> hi
[03:20] <raDeon> j0
[03:20] <liwen> realplay -r /mydoc/12/13.rm
[03:21] <Echelon-H> PhotonX, k thx
[03:21] <liwen> no respond
[03:21] <Psyco> I have a problem with qtparted
[03:21] <raDeon> mount -t ntfs
[03:21] <liwen> so i ctrl+c
[03:21] <Echelon-H> raDeon, was that for me?
[03:21] <raDeon> yes
[03:21] <ompaul> liwen, realplayer perhaps
[03:21] <Psyco> It doesn't allow to resize the main partition (ext2)
[03:22] <raDeon> mount -t ntfs /device /mount/point
[03:22] <Psyco> anyone can help me?
[03:23] <liwen> someone speak chinese?
[03:23] <reka> Echelon-H: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs  & http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[03:23] <tiglionabbit> is there a chinese ubuntu channel?
[03:23] <liwen> oh?
[03:23] <liwen> i search
[03:23] <Darth> What is the best site for getting apollon working
[03:24] <johnnybe1ak> Darth: whats the problem
[03:24] <Darth> can't install apollon
[03:24] <dabaSlon> alo...
[03:24] <Darth> can you help
[03:24] <cert> anyone tried installing postgresql 8.0 in ubuntu?
[03:24] <johnnybe1ak> Darth: i can give it a red hot go
[03:25] <danko123> there is an apollon in my synaptic.
[03:25] <Darth> cool
[03:25] <Darth> is there
[03:25] <danko123> these are my sources.list http://pastebin.com/291661 .
[03:25] <cablefish> reka you recomended beep media player.. I'm a total newbie for the record... Should i choose any of the packages or what download of BMP is suitable for ubuntu gnome
[03:25] <danko123> make yours that, and update, and install apollon
[03:25] <audit_> the CDROM drive on my laptop is borked, is there a way I can do a FTP install on it?
[03:26] <danko123> audit_: yeah, a network install, somehow, dunno.
[03:26] <r0d> trying to get kernel source i386 from apt-get cache, but I'll i see in the tree is images of the kernel
[03:26] <Darth> I have no idea how to add them
[03:26] <reka> cablefish: open a terminal, then type 'sudo apt-get install beep-media-player'
[03:26] <danko123> darth, are you in kde?
[03:26] <audit_> well how do I do a network install?
[03:26] <danko123> audit_: I dont know. I know its possible, and works.
[03:26] <Darth> gnome
[03:27] <cablefish> thanks reka
[03:27] <danko123> darth, then, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and make the file look like that pastebin, save, close, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install apollon
[03:27] <thoreauputic> r0d: apt-cache search linux-source
[03:27] <Hajuu> http://pastebin.com/291656 -- Theres my httpd.conf ... Anyone tell me why connections from me to myself are "forbidden" to "/" ?
[03:28] <danko123> dude, rephrase that, I dont get your part after the ...
[03:28] <Darth> thanks
[03:28] <danko123> welcome
[03:28] <dabaSlon> welcome
[03:28] <johnnybe1ak> Hajuu: do you have read permission to /
[03:28] <cablefish> ehhr beep-media-player... Unable to find package?
[03:28] <Hajuu> well the / is in my home folder
[03:28] <Hajuu> so yes
[03:28] <Hajuu> heh
[03:28] <cablefish> What package should i download?
[03:28] <danko123> cablefish: you can also use synaptic, and search.
[03:28] <reka> how can i upgrade an ndividual package using apt-get?
[03:28] <raDeon> cablefish, yes
[03:29] <raDeon> reka, yes
[03:29] <tiglionabbit> hajuu: / should be the root folder, not home.
[03:29] <r0d> thoreauputic, yea i finally got it with linux-source-2.6.11. thx
[03:29] <Darth> do I delete the rest
[03:29] <danko123> raDeon: lol...yes...
[03:29] <raDeon> ;)
[03:29] <Hajuu> tiglionabbit:  It is.. The root folder I want to use is in my home directory
[03:29] <tiglionabbit> home should be at /home/username/
[03:29] <Hajuu> yeah..
[03:29] <reka> raDeon: ?
[03:29] <danko123> darth, yeah, remove what is tehre, put in what is in the pastebin
[03:29] <danko123> reka, he is jj.
[03:29] <Hajuu> it is /home/hajuu/documents/public_html
[03:29] <danko123> no, Hajuu, it is not, but, maybe it is....
[03:30] <reka> danko123: obviously i don't get it.
[03:30] <Hajuu> thats where I have configured it for if you read my httpd.conf
[03:30] <Hajuu> :)
[03:30] <danko123> reka, he was like, you had a question, and he said yes, cause he thought it was funny.
[03:30] <raDeon> she*
[03:30] <johnnybe1ak> ubuntu success story: i bought a laptop today (a compaq armada m300) everything worked perfect out of the box even power management
[03:30] <danko123> Hajuu: please tell me what you are talking about..I really wanna kno...how about, what does Anyone tell me why connections from me to myself are "forbidden" to "/" ? mean
[03:30] <raDeon> i am hot debian girl
[03:31] <johnnybe1ak> lol
[03:31] <tiglionabbit> k here goes, burning my live/install dvd
[03:31] <thoreauputic> reka: just do sudo apt-get install <package>  - if there is a newer one it will be upgraded
[03:31] <Hajuu> well when I try to connect to "http://<IP_ADDRESS>/" it gives me a forbidden error
[03:31] <danko123> Hajuu: does that mean, that you cant connect to localhost in your browsetr?
[03:31] <Hajuu> and I meant that im connecting to myself, as the server is on my computer
[03:31] <Hajuu> yes
[03:31] <danko123> ah, I thought that might be it.
[03:31] <Hajuu> lol
[03:31] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: try localhost instead
[03:31] <Hajuu> mmkay
[03:32] <danko123> well, Hajuu, I think that the apache user is www-data, and that he doesnt have read permissions to taht folder, am I right?
[03:32] <Hajuu> localhost returns forbidden too.. it isnt that.. I've misconfigured something somewhere that wont give me access or something
[03:32] <Hajuu> ohhhh
[03:32] <Hajuu> your right
[03:32] <Hajuu> I havent set that up
[03:32] <Hajuu> haha
[03:32] <reka> OK.  i can't seem to upgrade binutils.  i get this error in synaptic:  "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/binutils_2.15-5ubuntu2.2_i386.deb:  unable to open files list file for package `memtest86+': Input/output error"
[03:32] <deepspring> what happened to the azureus package?
[03:33] <dabaSlon> nice^
[03:33] <thoreauputic> reka: sudoapt-get update
[03:33] <reka> thoreauputic: thanks.
[03:33] <Hajuu> so how can I set it up so that both hajuu and www-data can access /home/hajuu/documents/public_html/ ?
[03:33] <tiglionabbit> thoreaputic with a space in it
[03:33] <danko123> I would not do that.
[03:33] <thoreauputic> oops
[03:33] <thoreauputic> typo sorry
[03:33] <deepspring> ls -al
[03:33] <Hajuu> no?
[03:33] <deepspring> errr
[03:33] <deepspring> wrong window
[03:34] <thoreauputic> reka sudo apt-get update (correction)
[03:34] <danko123> Hajuu: public_html is a fodler that, if apache is configured in a right way, every user on the comp that has a public_html folder can be accessed through http://localhost/~username
[03:34] <danko123> does that make sense, teh sentence?
[03:34] <tiglionabbit> hmm, k3b is writing my dvd at 1x speed.  Is that normal?  I've never written a dvd before
[03:34] <raDeon> biggest typo of the day "how do i install a program", "rm -rf /"
[03:34] <danko123> but, you can do that too.
[03:34] <tiglionabbit> like that's a typo, radeon
[03:34] <johnnybe1ak> if run flux as my wm but still use gnome apps like nautilus, will there be any performance benifits
[03:34] <reka> thoreauputic: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/291664
[03:34] <thoreauputic> raDeon: don't even type that asd a joke, please
[03:35] <Fator_Dee> tiglionabbit: it could be normal, or could be not, it depends on a lot of things
[03:35] <eruin> johnnybe1ak, not really
[03:35] <tiglionabbit> add sudo to the front of it, for comedic effect
[03:35] <danko123> The two things you can do is, allow everyone read access to that folder, or chown -R  www-data /home/hajuu/documents/public_html/
[03:35] <johnnybe1ak> eruin: yeah didn't think so
[03:35] <reka> still the same error.  i think i tried to upgrade it earlier and it broke my system. i can't compile programs now.
[03:35] <Hajuu> ill chown -R it
[03:35] <cyber23> what is my gift install
[03:35] <danko123> ok, sounds good.
[03:35] <danko123> tell me if it works.
[03:35] <cyber23> its for apollon
[03:36] <danko123> Hajuu: want a LAMP book? it has a chapter that will tell you about Apache...
[03:36] <johnnybe1ak> cyber23: try something like giftd -v from the command line
[03:36] <reka> thoreauputic: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/291665
[03:36] <thoreauputic> reka: your dpkg is borked
[03:36] <reka> thoreauputic: which is why i think i need to upgrade binutils
[03:36] <Hajuu> root@ubuntu:/home/hajuu/documents # chown www-user public-html
[03:36] <Hajuu> chown: `www-user': invalid user
[03:36] <danko123> www-data?
[03:36] <cyber23> nothing
[03:36] <raDeon> dont worry i do it all the time and i've calculated that this channel is too small to have someone actually type it
[03:36] <danko123> just a sec
[03:37] <reka> thoreauputic: great. :(  how would i go about fixing it?
[03:37] <thoreauputic> hmm
[03:37] <johnnybe1ak> raDeon: its still stupid
[03:37] <danko123> whats teh formula for the calculation, raDeon?
[03:37] <raDeon> that's easy
[03:37] <danko123> Hajuu: yeah, its www-data
[03:37] <thoreauputic> something like dpkg-reconfigure --all (but that may be wrong - read the man)
[03:37] <danko123> Hajuu: want that book?
[03:37] <tiglionabbit> reka: for that you need the build-essential package..
[03:37] <danko123> It has a chapter on Apache, explaining the 80 % ...
[03:38] <darkaudit> d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! last freakin' lap!
[03:38] <danko123> of the 80-20 metaphore.
[03:38] <reka> tiglionabbit: i already have it installed.
[03:38] <raDeon> (channel size / channel size - 1)
[03:38] <tiglionabbit> o
[03:38] <danko123> raDeon: that gives 0...hm...
[03:38] <reka> tiglionabbit: i could compile programs earlier.  now i seem to have stuffed up either gcc or the linker
[03:38] <raDeon> no you did it wrong!
[03:38] <danko123> reka, do you always compile programs, or only sometimes?
[03:39] <thoreauputic> reka: have you tried `sudo apt-get -f install` without any packages ? Sometimes that heals the system for you
[03:39] <raDeon> i get 1.0
[03:39] <raDeon> and that 1 guy is me
[03:39] <reka> danko123: i'm doing a programming course :
[03:39] <raDeon> so nothing to worry about
[03:39] <danko123> also, apt-get install -f it is different, believe it or not.
[03:39] <danko123> reka: so, you cant compile anything?
[03:39] <tiglionabbit> radeon: anything divided by itself is one.  1 - 1 = 0.
[03:39] <danko123> weird.
[03:39] <danko123> c++? what lang?
[03:39] <reka> danko123: i think i wrecked something after an upgrading things in synaptic
[03:39] <danko123> reka, did you post your sources.list above?
[03:40] <dabaSlon> no, I didnt:)
[03:40] <raDeon> you are dividing 480 by 479 you dont get 0
[03:40] <tiglionabbit> synaptic shouldn't wreck things...
[03:40] <danko123> that was me...
[03:40] <reka> danko123: c.  a program that compiles cleanly on another computer gives the error posted above now.
[03:40] <tiglionabbit> radeon: division takes precedence over subrtaction.  Use parenthesis
[03:40] <danko123> reka, k, well, did you post your sources.list to pastebin yet?
[03:40] <raDeon> tiglionabbit, i did...
[03:40] <raDeon> it works with my calculator like that
[03:41] <raDeon> so it's good enough for me
[03:41] <Hajuu> the chown didnt work
[03:41] <raDeon> (channel size / (channel size - 1))
[03:41] <reka> sources.list: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/291666
[03:41] <spiral> hmmm, could anyone here give me the url of a backport repository for hoary ?
[03:41] <Muiske> How can I show the icons (filesystem, documents etc) on the desktop?
[03:41] <reka> thoreauputic: i'll try that
[03:41] <tiglionabbit> muiske: drag them there.
[03:42] <tiglionabbit> muiske: or right-click it and add thingamabobs...
[03:42] <danko123> Muiske: also, ubuntuguide.org has that shown.
[03:42] <Muiske> Thanks
[03:42] <danko123> Hajuu: whats up? not working?
[03:42] <danko123> sudo chown -R www-data /home/hajuu/documents/public_html/ ??
[03:42] <reka> thoreauputic: apt-get -f install didn't work :-(
[03:43] <thoreauputic> reka: OK - well it was worth a try :(
[03:43] <danko123> reka: you only need testing for marillat. I hear, anyhow...
[03:43] <danko123> http://pastebin.com/291661 reka, maybe make it this.
[03:43] <danko123> then update
[03:43] <reka> danko123: yeah, i've commented it out.
[03:43] <reka> danko123: OK, hang on.
[03:43] <yonil> how can i check all the modules that are currently working ?
[03:43] <danko123> reka, yeah, I kno, I saw it...just saying...geezz..:)
[03:43] <tiglionabbit> lsmod?
[03:43] <danko123> jj
[03:44] <dabaSlon> lala
[03:44] <danko123> that guy dabaSlon is a moron...
[03:44] <dabaSlon> so are you, Danko...
[03:44] <danko123> well, screw you...
[03:44] <dabaSlon> dude, get off my case...
[03:44] <tiglionabbit> drama
[03:44] <danko123> :)
[03:44] <danko123> its me:)
[03:44] <dabaSlon> no its not...
[03:45] <danko123> yeah, I am weird...
[03:45] <Daylighthater> Question I've just unpacked my sources package what do I do next??
[03:45] <johnnybe1ak> will a hoary upgrade get me a new kernel?
[03:45] <thoreauputic> danko123: umm.. it was funny for about 5 seconds, dude
[03:45] <danko123> Daylighthater: what are you doing, tho??
[03:45] <deepspring> ok this is a dumb question has azureus and its dependancies been removed from backports???
[03:45] <r0d> Daylighthater,  you trying to compile a kernel?
[03:45] <Daylighthater> I want to compile my sources later on, because I'm going to install a bootsplash :d
[03:46] <Daylighthater> I like the bootsplash from www.bootsplash.org
[03:46] <tiglionabbit> daylighthater: after you unpack a source package, the first thing you want to do is look in it for a README
[03:46] <lonewolff> deepsring: you could just download java and get azureus from their site and then it works
[03:46] <tiglionabbit> if there is no readme, read the install.sh script or makefile for hints
[03:47] <deepspring> ya, but I'm a lazy bumb who's just done a fresh install
[03:47] <deepspring> :p
[03:47] <r0d> Daylighthater, thx for linux. i think im gonna do that now :0
[03:47] <r0d> *link
[03:48] <johnnybe1ak> lol im like he gave you linux what
[03:48] <r0d> :)
[03:48] <danko123> Daylighthater: did you read their docs?
[03:48] <Daylighthater> It's cool isn't it :d
[03:48] <m4lc0m> Hi all, Can anyone help me about setting up a VPN connection with PPTP? I've tried with some internet searchs but now i'm in a static point! If you are so kind the problem is on ubuntuforum (is too long to explain here) -->  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37901   Thanks in advance
[03:48] <novaflare> any one have any tips for general performance increases for ubuntu ?
[03:48] <novaflare> some tweaks in other words heh
[03:48] <r0d> I just looked at the pics, and it looks koooool
[03:48] <Daylighthater> I tried to, but i'm to much of a noob to find my way :s
[03:49] <r0d> let me take a crack at it.
[03:49] <danko123> Daylighthater: well, stick with r0d, he is gonna try it now.
[03:49] <r0d> i'll pm you when im done, if your still on
[03:49] <Daylighthater> k
[03:49] <Daylighthater> ok
[03:49] <Daylighthater> I surely will be :d
[03:49] <nihao> Rhythembox and Beep stuck. Is it a problem caused by Gstreamer?
[03:49] <we2by> how do I give some one shell access with chroot?
[03:50] <tiglionabbit> we2by: give someone shell access how?  Don't you mean ssh?
[03:50] <we2by> ppl calls that shell access
[03:50] <danko123> nihao: are the programs using esd?
[03:50] <danko123> nihao: stuck on what, as well,.
[03:51] <we2by> danko123, in gnome? yes
[03:51] <tiglionabbit> we2by: what are you trying to do?
[03:51] <linuxboy> Does anybody know if there are ubuntu .debs for the nightly builds for thunderbird?
[03:51] <we2by> give some one ssh access?
[03:52] <tiglionabbit> ah
[03:52] <tiglionabbit> lemme fool around with that for a sec and I'll have an answer for you
[03:52] <LinuxJones> m4lc0m, have you checked your settings in network-admin and selected the default gateway device ?
[03:52] <nihao> danko123, I open rhythembox, it shows up, but then stop responding..
[03:52] <danko123> linuxboy: I would not think so, but I dont know.
[03:53] <johnnybe1ak> nihao: what does it say if you run it from the cli
[03:53] <danko123> ok, do you know what output plugin it is using?
[03:53] <danko123> nihao^
[03:53] <linuxboy> danko123: im just taking a shot in the dark ;)
[03:53] <danko123> its possible.
[03:53] <linuxboy> it is, i just doubt it :)
[03:54] <linuxboy> i might attempt to make a package myself...
[03:54] <nihao> johnnybe1ak: the same. I start it in terminal, then it becomes dummy. I had to kill it.
[03:54] <johnnybe1ak> nihao: what output is there in the terminal if any
[03:55] <nihao> danko123: how do i know it used ESD or something else?
[03:55] <danko123> it would maybe be in options, or properties, I dont use those 2 programs..
[03:55] <tiglionabbit> we2by: there appears to be a faq about ssh here http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[03:55] <danko123> g2g lay down.
[03:56] <nihao> johnnybe1ak: I input "rhythembox", press RET, it shows up, it stucks, then I killed it :-) no other output.
[03:56] <linuxboy> whats the ubuntu backport site? http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ doesn't want to work
[03:56] <Hajuu> danko123:  Uhm... yeah I redid that chown
[03:56] <Hajuu> still no good
[03:56] <Hajuu> I think
[03:56] <Hajuu> that its a problem with my httpd.conf not with my permissions
[03:57] <johnnybe1ak> nihao: hmm does sound work in other apps no worries?
[03:57] <m4lc0m> LinuxJones: I tried even if it won't work, I'm in a univesity net so i'm behind DHCP I cannot change the settings
[03:57] <danko123> Hajuu: jsut a sec, I have to go lay down.
[03:57] <johnnybe1ak> Hajuu: ahve you tried putting it in a different folder
[03:57] <johnnybe1ak> mines in /var/www
[03:57] <johnnybe1ak> works np
[03:57] <nihao> johnnybe1ak: sound is OK.
[03:57] <Hajuu> aw ok
[03:57] <johnnybe1ak> have you got the latest rhythmbox
[03:57] <johnnybe1ak> hajuu::)
[03:58] <Hajuu> rhythmbox ? I have the one that came with the latest dist of ubuntu heh
[03:58] <Hajuu> whys that?
[03:58] <johnnybe1ak> hajuu: no that was for nihao
[03:58] <johnnybe1ak> *major confusion*
[03:59] <Hajuu> oh
[03:59] <Hajuu> heh
[03:59] <dabaSlon> ok, I am laying down now:)
[03:59] <LinuxJones> m4lc0m, so your device is active in network-admin ?
[03:59] <dabaSlon> Hajuu would you like that book?
[03:59] <r0d> Daylighthater, while your waiting do "apt-get install linux-source-2.6.11
[04:00] <Hajuu> what books that?
[04:00] <dabaSlon> LAMP, A stands for apache
[04:00] <dabaSlon> it has a chapter on it, 30 pages roughly, will tell you lots about it.
[04:00] <capi> is it possible to have Ubuntu read and write files like they are on the computers harddrive with samba?
[04:00] <reka> linuxboy:
[04:00] <reka> deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[04:00] <reka> deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:00] <reka> [ubuntuguide.org]
[04:00] <Hajuu> hmmm I've setup several apache servers before heh
[04:00] <Hajuu> just on windows
[04:00] <nihao> johnnybe1ak: rhythembox version 0.8.8. i re-installed it twice today.
[04:00] <Hajuu> not linux
[04:00] <lonewolff> capi: just mount the samba share and then yes
[04:01] <dabaSlon> Hajuu well, if you would like, that book explains the config files, and that.
[04:01] <m4lc0m> yes, but if yo read the topic on ubuntuforum i posted output of ifconfig and route....  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37901
[04:02] <m4lc0m> LinuxJones: yes, but if yo read the topic on ubuntuforum i posted output of ifconfig and route....  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37901
[04:02] <m4lc0m> sorry
[04:02] <dabaSlon> toxicfume are you here>?
[04:02] <reka> danko123: no good :( using your sources list i still get the same error: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/291671
[04:02] <toxicfume> dabaSlon: yup
[04:02] <dabaSlon> reka, updated>?
[04:02] <dabaSlon> toxicfume sources done?
[04:02] <reka> dabaSlon: see the pastebin link
[04:02] <dabaSlon> reka, that was not the fix, that was just a start/.
[04:02] <toxicfume> dabaSlon: yup..checking for typos,...
[04:03] <johnnybe1ak> how do i check ram usage
[04:03] <toxicfume> dabaSlon:okay its done
[04:04] <lonewolff> johnnybelak: top from terminal would show you
[04:04] <reka> dabaSlon: ah, whoops.  here: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/291674
[04:04] <dabaSlon> reka k, read the pastebin, yeah, I mean binutils is not something I have ever heard of...
[04:04] <LinuxJones> m4lc0m, your trying to use vpn to control another computer ?
[04:04] <johnnybe1ak> i need more ram :)
[04:05] <tiglionabbit> isn't binutils the basic things like ls?
[04:05] <dabaSlon> reka I would install build-essential, for compioling, havethat installed?
[04:05] <reka> dabaSlon: have you been following my thread?  i'm having linking problems and correct me if i'm wrong but ld is in binutils
[04:05] <reka> dabaSlon: yes, i have be installed.
[04:05] <m4lc0m> LinuxJones: No I'm in a university net and I need VPN to go on internet (is the only way they provide the service)
[04:05] <dabaSlon> wow, I am lost, werent you trying to compile something?
[04:05] <dabaSlon> make dont work...
[04:05] <dabaSlon> something like that?
[04:05] <toxicfume> dabaSlon: should i try apt-get update?
[04:05] <dabaSlon> yeah, pleae.
[04:06] <LinuxJones> m4lc0m, ohh I see
[04:06] <dabaSlon> sudo
[04:06] <reka> dabaSlon: correct: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/291665
[04:06] <lonewolff> dabaSlon: i think he was getting errors about ld when running make
[04:06] <reka> that's my problem
[04:06] <m4lc0m> LinuxJones: Yes, you see and unforunatley to be here I'm using windows, i cannot use ubuntu here :(
[04:06] <tiglionabbit> =\  what tha.  I installed openssh-server, and am attempting to connect to myself, but it's timing out
[04:07] <tiglionabbit> well not timing out, but taking forever and not connecting
[04:07] <toxicfume> dabaSlon: I'M STILL GETTING THE gpg ERROR LIKE I WAS GETTING YESTERDAY :(
[04:07] <toxicfume> opps
[04:07] <toxicfume> sorry for the caps
[04:07] <dabaSlon> yup, you sure you dont have marillat uncommented, the last entgry in sources.list should be commented out.
[04:08] <toxicfume> dabaSlon: it is commented out
[04:08] <tiglionabbit> hm, ah, was a problem with dyndns.org.  nm
[04:08] <LinuxJones> m4lc0m, I wish I could help dude I am sure someone will reply to your posting on the forum....GL
[04:08] <tiglionabbit> mm, hot fresh burned ubuntu dvd!
[04:08] <dabaSlon> toxicfume a gpg error, hey?
[04:08] <tiglionabbit> who wants a byte?
[04:09] <cyber23> anyone know of a good site to get an ati x800pro working
[04:09] <cyber23> please help
[04:09] <m4lc0m> LinuxJones: I hope.. :)
[04:10] <capi> I have samba running on Ubuntu, what do i need to do to read files off of a win machine, ubuntuguide doesn't go over it
[04:10] <toxicfume> dabaSlon: it says the following "W: GPG error: http://security .ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG (alphanumer characters here) Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster.buntu.com>"
[04:10] <dabaSlon> cyber23 yeah, www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowTo but, a lot of ppl fail, dunno why...
[04:10] <cyber23> thanks
[04:10] <tiglionabbit> capi: it should be able to do that already.  I can
[04:10] <lonewolff> capi: goto places and network servers and your workgroup/windows server should show up in there under windows network
[04:10] <Hajuu> hmm... my apache works if I reconfig it for /var/www...
[04:10] <Hajuu> so it must be a permissions issue
[04:11] <Hajuu> but oh well.. ima just use /var/www
[04:11] <dabaSlon> well, somewhat, also x needs to be ennabled for a folder for it to be able to open
[04:11] <LinuxJones> capi, there is a whole section on how to do that in the samba/windows section
[04:12] <dabaSlon> that is a weird error, I think.
[04:12] <toxicfume> dabaSlon: yeah i was having this problem yesterday too
[04:12] <dabaSlon> toxicfume I would double check the spelling errors.
[04:12] <tiglionabbit> toxicfume: that means the packages aren't authenticated.  You can still install them.    Things from multiverse may not be authenticated though, and will always give you that message
[04:13] <toxicfume> tiglionabbit: how?
[04:13] <novaflare> hmm reading this and wondering if theres any noticable gain from installing a cpu specific kernel http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3713&highlight=tweak
[04:13] <tiglionabbit> in synaptic, click on reload.  Or say sudo apt-get update
[04:14] <dabaSlon> tiglionabbit I should tell you that his X is not working yet.
[04:14] <lonewolff> synd: #damnsmalllinux
[04:14] <toxicfume> tiglionabbit: well x isnt working for me..and i get that error from apt-get update itself
[04:14] <tiglionabbit> novaflare: I installed the i656 kernel.  It goes faster.  It was easy to install, and took no effort
[04:14] <tiglionabbit> toxicfume: oh shit.
[04:15] <marjorie> Hi there, ive just had to switch to a really bad old monitor, when X starts i see the picture perfectly for afew seconds then it disappears
[04:15] <novaflare> so its litterly as easy as sudo apt-get and reboot?
[04:15] <tiglionabbit> yes
[04:15] <tiglionabbit> it is
[04:15] <marjorie> I have tried setting very 'generous' values in x config for refresh and res..
[04:15] <tiglionabbit> it will add a new entry to grub.
[04:16] <novaflare> in other words i should grab the linux-k7 sence my cpu is a amd tbird
[04:16] <tiglionabbit> yup
[04:16] <dabaSlon> tiglionabbit I should also tell you, that that is the error he gets when doing sudo apt-get update...:-p
[04:16] <novaflare> k ty may as well do it now
[04:16] <novaflare> and i can boot to both kernels cool
[04:16] <novaflare> heh
[04:16] <tiglionabbit> dabaslon: he said that.  And yeah, I'm stumped..  that shouldn't happen
[04:16] <capi> Lonewolf: I'm running in CLI-only, what would be the equivilent to places and network servers?
[04:16] <toxicfume> argh, why is this happening to me lol
[04:17] <marjorie> Can someone help with my basic X problem?
[04:17] <tiglionabbit> dunno man.  Given it's ubuntu, I'd say grab a hoary cd and reinstall.  =[
[04:17] <dabaSlon> tiglionabbit yeah, it should not with ubuntu repos, for marillat it is a common thing.
[04:17] <toxicfume> tiglionabbit, done that, twice
[04:17] <dabaSlon> toxicfume please double check spelling, while I look into this.
[04:17] <toxicfume> dabaSlon: yup, doing that as  type
[04:17] <dabaSlon> tiglionabbit thats not really expert advice:-p
[04:17] <tiglionabbit> marjorie: what's the prob?
[04:17] <tiglionabbit> dabaslon: I know.  I'm not an expert
[04:18] <marjorie> I switched to a rubbish m,onitor..
[04:18] <dabaSlon> marjorie done dpkg --reconfigure xorgconf something like that?
[04:18] <mileniun> buenas, alguien que hable cristiano????? jeje
[04:18] <marjorie> i have changed the res and refresh rates to 'generous' values in xconfg4
[04:18] <tiglionabbit> mileniun: #ubuntu-es ?
[04:18] <marjorie> when x starts i seem my nvidia pci perfectly in 800x600 for a few secs then it disappears
[04:18] <LinuxJones> marjorie, your refresh rates are too low ?
[04:19] <mileniun> gracias
[04:19] <dabaSlon> de nada
[04:19] <toxicfume> dabaSlon: yesterday..someone in this channel tried asking me to put the IP of the security url in sources.list, even that didnt work
[04:19] <synd-> anyone familiar with DSL? (damn small linux)
[04:19] <johnnybe1ak> heard of it
[04:19] <synd-> i have a few questions but the DSL chan isnt helping
[04:19] <marjorie> im useing horizsync 30-60 vert refresh 4--70
[04:19] <johnnybe1ak> thats about it
[04:19] <lonewolff> synd-: goto their irc channel #damnsmalllinux
[04:20] <synd-> lonewolff: i did
[04:20] <LinuxJones> marjorie, your running Hoary ?
[04:20] <marjorie> no warty =/
[04:20] <johnnybe1ak> is clear looks default in hoary
[04:20] <lonewolff> synd-: it it very unlikely you will get much help in here, as this is the ubuntu channel, try ##linux
[04:21] <marjorie> when x fails it just sais failed to intitlise core devices...
[04:21] <synd-> lonewolff: i know, im an #ubuntu regular and have seen people get help with other debian-like distros in here
[04:21] <LinuxJones> marjorie, here's a link for some info fixing Hoary, just change the reference from the xorg.conf file to xf86config-4 and it should be ok >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:21] <dabaSlon> toxicfume it can also be that one of the repos is down, at the time.
[04:21] <toxicfume> dabaSlon: but it always happens with me :/
[04:21] <marjorie> Linuxjones : im useing warty dont have xorg
[04:21] <toxicfume> while at the same time , it doesnt happen to others
[04:22] <lonewolff> synd: the thing is, DSL is about as un debian like as a debian based distro can be
[04:22] <dabaSlon> toxicfume its ok...:) tell me which repo this happens with...
[04:22] <LinuxJones> marjorie, yeah but the process is almost exactly the same
[04:22] <dabaSlon> I mean, you do sudo apt-get update, and then it starts listing the repos, and which one fails?
[04:22] <synd> lonewolff: hmm
[04:22] <johnnybe1ak> can anyone recommend a pci wifi card
[04:23] <toxicfume> dabaSlon: i dont know which one fauils..but the last linwe shows thwe error i typed out to you
[04:23] <capi> I can access the Linux Box from My Windows Box, but how do I reverse the process using only the command line?
[04:23] <marjorie> ok, thank you, will try.
[04:23] <synd> johnnybe1ak, get one that has a ubuntus supported chipset
[04:23] <LinuxJones> johnnybe1ak, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[04:23] <dabaSlon> ok, then, please hold, I am reading this site: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary
[04:24] <toxicfume> (sorry for the typoes..not in a comfortable position with both desktop and the laptop on a small table :P)
[04:24] <toxicfume> dabaSlon: okay, thanks :)
[04:25] <novaflare> that was damn simple
[04:25] <raDeon> DAMN SIMPLE
[04:25] <novaflare> dont know that it did much to speed things up yet
[04:25] <marjorie> Linuxjones : im useing warty dont have xorg
[04:25] <novaflare> but it booted properly heh
[04:26] <Guest22367> www.ubuntu.com
[04:26] <raDeon> when will my cd shipment get here
[04:27] <LinuxJones> marjorie, yes I know that's why I mentioned changing the references in the article from xorg.conf to XF86Config-4
[04:27] <caine> does anybody here use yahoo msg
[04:27] <ogi_> yuck
[04:27] <Hajuu> uhm
[04:28] <caine> or if anybody here knows how to install gtkhtml-0.8
[04:28] <synd> caine, is it not in the apt-get?
[04:28] <caine> its not yahoo that im really having the problem with
[04:28] <caine> im following the directions to install gtkhtml-0.8
[04:28] <caine> but they dont make sense to me
[04:29] <caine> what does 'cd' mean
[04:29] <danko123> cd means change directory
[04:29] <Daylighthater> change directory
[04:29] <ogi_> change directory
[04:29] <johnnybe1ak> change directory hehe
[04:29] <caine> 1. `cd' to the directory containing the package's source code and type
[04:29] <redboar> or compact disc
[04:29] <redboar> LOL
[04:29] <danko123> caine, try sudo apt-get install gtkhtml-0.8
[04:30] <reka> well that was unpleasant.  i asked my question again in #debian (dpkg related) and was basically told to bugger off b/c it was ubuntu-related and therefore off-topic
[04:30] <r0d> Daylighthater, uname -a
[04:30] <caine> ok lemme try that
[04:30] <Daylighthater> redboar thats CD
[04:30] <redboar> oh Jesus
[04:30] <johnnybe1ak> reka: #debian is notoriously bad
[04:30] <Daylighthater> r0d uname -r works fine to
[04:30] <danko123> toxicfume: ok, remove one by one repository, and sudo apt-get update to see if taht fixes it.
[04:30] <r0d> Daylighthater,  just install the 2.6 kernel source
[04:30] <Daylighthater> it's just the nuber then
[04:30] <reka> johnnybe1ak: yes, i had heard the rumours ... i managed to call him an oaf before i left though :)
[04:30] <redboar> Linux will never overtake Windoze
[04:30] <caine> E: Couldn't find package gtkhtml-0.8
[04:31] <caine> i figured that was gonna happen
[04:31] <Daylighthater> r0d, can i apt-get??
[04:31] <r0d> yea
[04:31] <redboar> no Micro$oft user will put up with being treated like crap for not knowing anything about computers!  LOL
[04:31] <toxicfume> danko123: hey, i just restarted ubuntu and try apt-get update..and now i get no erroes at all ..it went fine it seems :S
[04:31] <caine> how do you change the directory
[04:31] <danko123> great, good work.
[04:31] <r0d> Daylighthater, apt-get install linux-source-2.6.11
[04:31] <Echelon-H> Hey there, I've asked before if I can use my ntfs partition
[04:31] <Daylighthater> r0d, whats it called this source :s
[04:31] <danko123> ok, then sudo apt-get install bitchx again
[04:31] <Daylighthater> :d
[04:31] <redboar> or what lettes are lower or upper case
[04:31] <tiglionabbit> caine: type cd and the name of the directory
[04:31] <toxicfume> danko123: i didn't know anything at all lol
[04:32] <toxicfume> danko123: okay
[04:32] <redboar> *letters
[04:32] <caine> ok
[04:32] <Echelon-H> but Now i see there is no deb for captive-ntfs.
[04:32] <Echelon-H> anyone knows another solution?
[04:32] <Daylighthater> r0d, is that unstable??
[04:32] <toxicfume> danko123: its done i think
[04:32] <tiglionabbit> echelon: you can only read ntfs, and have very limited writing ability
[04:32] <tiglionabbit> the project is pretty dead
[04:32] <Daylighthater> just need to adjust my sources of apt then
[04:32] <danko123> Echelon-H: you mean just mount the ntfs partition? ok, well, you can, yes, but you cant write to it.
[04:32] <r0d> Daylighthater, no
[04:33] <danko123> toxicfume: run bitchx in the terminal
[04:33] <Echelon-H> danko123, that's fine, how can I do that?
[04:33] <r0d> Daylighthater,  they splashimage where installing maybe
[04:33] <ogi_> Who want's to tell me about The French Revolution? :P
[04:33] <r0d> Daylighthater,  no guts no glory:)
[04:33] <egg|overhaul> ^-^ hi
[04:33] <johnnybe1ak> lol
[04:33] <danko123> Echelon-H: ubuntuguide.org has that shown. or if someone else feels like walking you through it, Im sick...
[04:33] <caine> ok is it like this
[04:33] <caine> cd/home/caine/Desktop/My Documents/gaim-1.3.0
[04:33] <caine> cd-/home/caine/Desktop/My Documents/gaim-1.3.0
[04:33] <egg|overhaul> history lession?
[04:33] <caine> cd /home/caine/Desktop/My Documents/gaim-1.3.0
[04:33] <Echelon-H> danko123, k, i'll look over there, thanks
[04:33] <caine> because none of these are working
[04:34] <danko123> caine: ...
[04:34] <ogi_> egg|overhaul, yeppers
[04:34] <raDeon> cocaine
[04:34] <danko123> caine, what are you trying to do, compile gaim??
[04:34] <caine> no iv got gaim
[04:34] <caine> but it doesnt support webcam
[04:34] <egg|overhaul> ogi_<  yoper
[04:35] <caine> so im installing yahoo msg for linux
[04:35] <danko123> caine: your webcam works?
[04:35] <cocaine> caine, im like your co-pilot
[04:35] <marjorie> Linuxjones: I have consolted that site, nothing new...
[04:36] <marjorie> It almost as if something else is messing up display, beacuse i see the picture perfrect for a few seconds
[04:36] <Echelon-H> can I find anywhere the Arial font for linux (and if possible, also in hebrew)?
[04:36] <rixth> Is there anyway to apply an equalizer to ALL audio out of your computer?
[04:36] <marjorie> alsa-mixer should do it
[04:36] <caine> lol
[04:36] <caine> yeah well copolite start piloting lol
[04:36] <egg|overhaul> caine-_- lol
[04:36] <caine> cause im lost as hell
[04:36] <danko123> cocaine: what was up with you changing your nick every minute last night??
[04:36] <danko123> :)
[04:37] <cocaine> trying to dodge bans
[04:37] <egg|overhaul> danko123-_- :)
[04:37] <cocaine> ;)
[04:37] <rixth> marjorie, I'll take a look. I really likr RhythmBox, but no equlizer. Is therer suhc things as plugins for RB?
[04:37] <caine> this is the directory i have to go to
[04:37] <caine> /home/caine/Desktop/My Documents/yahoo/gtkhtml-0.8
[04:37] <delire_> caine: try 'cd /home/caine/Desktop/My\ Documents/gaim-1.3.0'
[04:37] <marjorie> rixth: Im not sure, alsa plus gstre
[04:37] <lonewolff> cd "/home/cain/Desktop/My Documents/yahoo/gtkhtml-0.8"
[04:37] <caine> w/o the quotes right
[04:37] <Echelon-H> cool i got the ntfs working :D
[04:38] <marjorie> sry... i use alsa amarok and gstreamer
[04:38] <ogi_> Echelon-H, in what direction
[04:38] <Echelon-H> ogi_, read
[04:38] <delire_> caine: you need to 'escape' that space in the folder. on UNIX systems such clearspace in names is ill advised.
[04:38] <caine> ok that works now
[04:38] <caine> finally
[04:38] <delire_>  s/folder/"folder name"
[04:39] <marjorie> Is it possible that DRI could be causeing this moniutor some problems?
[04:39] <delire_> caine: just rename that folder name ok? My-Documents would be fine
[04:39] <caine> 1. `cd' to the directory containing the package's source code and type
[04:39] <caine>      `./configure' to configure the package for your system.  If you're
[04:39] <caine>      using `csh' on an old version of System V, you might need to type
[04:39] <caine>      `sh ./configure' instead to prevent `csh' from trying to execute
[04:39] <caine>      `configure' itself.
[04:39] <Fator_Dee> marjorie: what is your problem?
[04:39] <Echelon-H> If I want only to share files on the LAN when one comp is windows and the other is ubuntu, do I need samba or I need something else?
[04:39] <caine> anybody understand that shit lol
[04:39] <capi> How do I determine, know what the username/password combo is on my windows box for samba? Is it the same as the user accounts?
[04:39] <rixth> Echelon-H, only samba.
[04:39] <delire_> caine: to compile it do this: './configure && make && make install'
[04:40] <danko123> hey, you guys with atis... or whatever graphics cards... sudosed-i-e's/"ati"/"fglrx"/'/etc/X11/XF86Config-4 what is teh hoary alternative,
[04:40] <lonewolff> cain: once your in the directory type ./configure and press enter
[04:40] <marjorie> Ive changed to a very old monitor, when gdm starts i see the nvidia banner perfect for a few secs but then disapepas and x dies
[04:40] <rixth> capi, Did you run smbpasswd -a *user*?
[04:40] <delire_> caine: you're compiling software, don't expect it to be comprehendable, or easy at first!
[04:40] <caine> it says this right now in terminal
[04:40] <lonewolff> capi: yes, if you are connecting to the windows box from linux then it will be the user accounts on the windows box
[04:40] <caine> caine@Caine:~/Desktop/My Documents/gaim-1.3.0$
[04:40] <marjorie> and i DONT get the no screen message!
[04:40] <capi> rixth, ok
[04:40] <marjorie> :)
[04:41] <lonewolff> capi: if its the other way round then you add users with smbpasswd
[04:41] <danko123> sudodpkg-reconfigurexserver-x or this, what is the rest of the command??
[04:41] <reka> *sigh*  i think i've narrowed it down: i think my dpkg is stuffed: justin@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -S gcc
[04:41] <reka> Password:
[04:41] <reka> dpkg-query: unable to open files list file for package `memtest86+': Input/output error
[04:41] <lonewolff> dank123: xserver-xorg i would assume
[04:41] <uc50_ic4more> folks, i have spent about 2 days now with my first install of Ubuntu and love it - so much so that I would like to convert some friends, family and clients... However, I know a few people who are very, very fond of Microsoft's Picture Manager utility that comes w/ Office 2003... Does anyone know of a GUI program for *NIX that kinda sorta does what Picture Manager does?
[04:42] <Fator_Dee> uc50_ic4more: what it does :-o
[04:42] <Echelon-H> if I installed something from a .run file, how can I delete it?
[04:42] <ogi_> danko123,  xorg.conf
[04:42] <danko123> lonewolff: command not found...
[04:42] <delire_> reka: when did this problem begin?
[04:42] <delire_> Echelon-H: rm -f <file.run>
[04:42] <lonewolff> uc50_ic4more: what does it do?
[04:42] <caine> ok so im stuck at caine@Caine:~/Desktop/My Documents/gaim-1.3.0$
[04:42] <Fator_Dee> uc50_ic4more: I'm not sure what it does exactly, but you could try gqview, gthumb, they are image viewing programs
[04:42] <caine> do i put configure right after that?
[04:42] <delire_> Echelon-H: or do you mean the installed program
[04:43] <Echelon-H> the installed prog
[04:43] <danko123> thanks, Ill tryu that.
[04:43] <delire_> uc50_ic4more: gthumb is very ood
[04:43] <reka> delire_: i can't pinpoint it.  i think it was after i upgraded a few packages in synaptic.  now i can't compile programs, because i get an ld error.
[04:43] <Fator_Dee> uc50_ic4more: or just search for image viewers on synaptic/apt-get
[04:43] <lonewolff> cain: when you are in that directory just type ./configure and hit enter
[04:43] <delire_> s/ood/good
[04:43] <uc50_ic4more> Sorry - I was assuming that a lot of folks here have some type of dual-boot arrangement - Picture Manager is like a GUI batch image processor - *really* simple re-sizing, auto color correction, etc.
[04:43] <reka> uc50_ic4more: the gimp.  pre-installed with ubuntu
[04:43] <delire_> reka: try 'sudo ldconfig'
[04:43] <caine> ok thnx now its configuring
[04:43] <danko123> ./configure, maybe
[04:43] <caine> and its done
[04:43] <uc50_ic4more> Fator-Dee - there are several image viewers listed - can you recommend one that perform some cursory adjustments to color/ size, etc.?
[04:43] <reka> delire: that doesn't explain why dpkg doesn't work
[04:44] <reka> but i'll try it
[04:44] <Fator_Dee> uc50_ic4more: I'll check on them
[04:44] <delire> reka: no but if you can't compile programs you ld may have no idea where the *.so's it needs to link against are.
[04:44] <caine> 2. Type `make' to compile the package.
[04:44] <capi> what port does samba use with windows?
[04:44] <caine> but i typed in and got this
[04:44] <delire> reka: very odd regardless
[04:44] <danko123> noo...
[04:44] <danko123> :)
[04:44] <mz2> uc50_ic4more, if you want to do color adjustments and such, f-spot is nice and easy, and looks flashy, and does that easily for a batch of images
[04:44] <caine> caine@Caine:~/Desktop/My Documents/gaim-1.3.0$ make make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[04:45] <jdizzle> anyone know about xorg ati drivers or have any tips..... i just installed the drivers on ubuntu and dlxcfg still gives me mesa drivers
[04:45] <danko123> caine, do a ls there.
[04:45] <caine> ls?
[04:45] <cocaine> cocaine get it nyeahaha
[04:45] <delire> caine: did you ./configure
[04:45] <danko123> then, go into the right folder.
[04:45] <caine> yeah i did
[04:45] <caine> and it finished
[04:45] <delire> caine: then look for a src/ directory
[04:45] <nalioth> howdy y'all, seems my nick arrived b4 i did
[04:45] <synd> gdesklets or gkrellm.. which should i get?
[04:45] <delire> caine: cd in there and type make. why are you compiling gaim btw???
[04:46] <reka> delire: done.  still no go.  for reference: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/291665 (the original problem), http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/291674 (attempting to upgrade binutils)
[04:46] <nalioth> synd: they are two differnt things
[04:46] <Fator_Dee> uc50_ic4more: gthumb has some editing abilities, you should try that f-spot out
[04:46] <caine> im not compiling gaim
[04:46] <caine> this isnt gaim
[04:46] <jiyuu0> backports down?
[04:46] <caine> i already have gaim installed
[04:46] <synd> nalioth: i thought they were similar in what they do?
[04:46] <danko123> jiyuu0: some mirrors work.
[04:46] <nalioth> synd: in my experience, gkrellm (or superkaramba<for KDE>)
[04:46] <uc50_ic4more> gthumb it is - i'll give it a shot - thank you!
[04:46] <jiyuu0> danko123, thanks
[04:46] <reka> jdizzle: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:46] <caine> but it doesnt support webcam so im installing yahoo msg but in order to install that i have to have gtkhtml-0.8
[04:46] <alejandro_> hi .... there is debian package for installing windows media codecs for totem media player ???
[04:47] <nalioth> synd the possibilitys for both are limited by your scripting ability
[04:47] <reka> alejandro_: w32codecs
[04:47] <caine> because its the client that runs it
[04:47] <synd> nalioth: im not planning on scripting at all
[04:47] <nihao> Upgrade failed: K7 kernel is not compliant with Nvidia-glx?
[04:47] <rixth> alejandro_, no, you have to goto mplayer.hu and install the essential codecs pack.
[04:47] <nalioth> synd: i unfortunately cannot get gdesklets to work on my machine, but gkrellm and superkaramba both work fine
[04:47] <rixth> reka, w32codes is not longer a proper packed.
[04:47] <delire> caine: alright then
[04:47] <synd> nalioth: alright, sounds good
[04:47] <reka> rixth: really?! when did this happen?
[04:48] <danko123> Does anyone know how to go through a sudodpkg-reconfigurexserver-xorg ?
[04:48] <caine> and im installing that right now
[04:48] <jdizzle> can someone pm me to help with the ati driver setup, i went to force overwrite some files and it gives an error
[04:48] <jdizzle> sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite fglrx-6-8-0_8.12.10-2_i386.deb
[04:48] <danko123> a walkthrough, otr which options to use?
[04:48] <synd> nalioth: are there any alternatives to gkrellm?
[04:48] <alejandro_> all roght thx ...
[04:48] <nalioth> synd: there is a mighty lot of users working on things to add to superkaramba
[04:48] <reka> danko123: i wouldn't do that if i were you.  it's known to stuff up your xorg.conf file.  make sure to back it up before attempting.
[04:48] <delire> jdizzle: have you created a *.deb file? if so dpkg -i --force-overwrite fglrx....deb
[04:48] <synd> nalioth: i see. but i dont use KDE
[04:48] <rixth> alejandro_, it's also advisable to get totem-xine (The default is the gstreamer version)
[04:48] <nalioth> synd: superkaramba is closer kinned to gdesktlets than it is gkrellm
[04:48] <rixth> reka, not sure, E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[04:48] <Shorty`> hey guys
[04:49] <nalioth> synd: you don't have to use kde
[04:49] <dimeo> does the floppy work for everyone after ubuntu is installed?
[04:49] <Shorty`> are there any applications that work like RDP in the sence that I can go to a windows machine, and pull up my Desktop?
[04:49] <dimeo> I have to type " sudo mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
[04:49] <dimeo> "
[04:49] <synd> nalioth: is it KDE-ish?
[04:49] <delire> jdizzle: and what happens?
[04:49] <caine> delire: i just sent you the instructions im following
[04:49] <dimeo> to get it to mount.. .anyone know how to fix this?
[04:49] <nalioth> dimeo: don't know, the manufacturer left a floppy drive off my Mac
[04:49] <reka> rixth: hmm, it's still on ubuntuguide.  i admit i haven't installed it since about a month ago though.
[04:49] <danko123> reka, thanks, anyone else?
[04:49] <delire> caine: yes they are generic compilation instructions.
[04:49] <nalioth> synd yes, superkaramba uses kdelibs and such
[04:49] <reka> lol
[04:50] <nalioth> synd: superkaramba is apt-gettable (with only the kde junk it needs)
[04:50] <caine> yeah well i dont understand them lol
[04:50] <caine> i understand some of it
[04:50] <ompaul> dimeo, if you 'cat /etc/fstab' do you see a reference to floppy in there?
[04:50] <caine> but i do what it says w/o knowledge of specifics that i need to know
[04:50] <alejandro_> what is totem-xine , another media player ??
[04:50] <caine> like the whole cd thing and how to do it
[04:50] <nalioth> dimeo: no more PM, please
[04:50] <Shorty`> I'll take that as a no ;P
[04:51] <reka> alejandro_: no.  it uses the xine backend rather than the default gstreamer that comes with ubuntu.
[04:51] <danko123> nalioth: do you have to run sudodpkg-reconfigurexserver-xorg??
[04:51] <synd> nalioth: this old laptop im messing with only has a p3 600mhz, 128mb RAM. gnome and KDE barely get by on it.. so i use xfce. will the kde libs bog it down?
[04:51] <danko123> nalioth: heh, funny way of asking...
[04:52] <alejandro_> all right ...im downloading the debian package of it .... after that i have to do something more ??
[04:52] <jdizzle> this is what i get delire -->  Warning: could not find /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/.libfglrx_ip.a.GCC3.c md for /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/libfglrx_ip.a.GCC3
[04:52] <danko123> nalioth: can you guide me through it is what I mean.
[04:52] <delire> caine: normally './configure && make && make install' is sufficient. sometimes with a './bootstrap' at the outset, sometimes editing a Makefile to reflect the paths on your system.
[04:52] <jdizzle> when i do make.sh to that file
[04:52] <Echelon-H> if I am doing a read only to my NTFS can I damage anything?
[04:52] <nalioth> synd: that is a good question. you'd only be running ONE app
[04:52] <hannes_> PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DON'T USE BREEZY YET -- REALLY <- why, I've had it working just great for a few weeks
[04:52] <nalioth> danko123: i don't have any experience with that command sequence
[04:53] <Shuddertrix> Echelon-H: You cannot damage it with it mounted as read-only.
[04:53] <jdizzle> thats the only error message and everything else is fine, but i think thats why its not installing
[04:53] <synd> Echelon-H: nope
[04:53] <danko123> hannes_: cause..
[04:53] <Fator_Dee> hannes_: and it could be totally whacked when you update it nect time
[04:53] <hannes_> exept that sope packages are unable to install
[04:53] <delire> jdizzle: odd '.libfglrx_..'? what's with the '.'
[04:53] <Fator_Dee> *next
[04:53] <hannes_> *some
[04:53] <Echelon-H> and if I do read/write?
[04:53] <synd> Echelon-H: unless you dropped the NTFS HDD off a cliff. that may damage it a bit
[04:53] <nalioth> danko123: if its anything similar to Xfree86 configurator, then it should be purty simple
[04:53] <Shuddertrix> hannes_: it's something to do with the transition to gcc 4
[04:53] <jacquesmerde> fuck, my favourite cd skips in a couple of places, and its no longer in print. is there anything i can do?
[04:53] <alejandro_> talking about breezy ..... how will be breezy anyway ???
[04:53] <Fator_Dee> hannes_: you shouldn't use it because it is not stable enough
[04:53] <delire> jdizzle: i have a /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/libfglrx_ip.a.GCC3
[04:54] <Echelon-H> synd, hehe, Im using the same HDD so it would also damage the Ext3 one
[04:54] <jdizzle> hmm still dont know why i dont
[04:54] <hannes_> yes, gcc4 and new dbus break it a bit
[04:54] <nalioth> hannes_: and with the next upgrade, you may be broken
[04:54] <Echelon-H> anyways, if I'm using read/write, can it damage anything?
[04:54] <danko123> Echelon-H: yeah, its not safe to write to ntfs from linux, at this time.
[04:54] <ompaul> hannes_, people usually go for the latest thing, however in an continuing evolving system (ubuntu linux) the use of bleeding edge tools without good reason can leave emotional scars when the system seems to be beyond recovery
[04:54] <reka> jacquesmerde: off-topic, is it scratched?
[04:54] <Bizzeh> hey, i wanna install ubuntu to its own partition on my hdd, without messing up my main partition and mbr
[04:54] <marjorie-t> What might my display problem be if i see the display at perfect res etc and then x disapears after 2 secs or so...
[04:55] <delire> jdizzle: you shouldn't need that source file.
[04:55] <Shuddertrix> Echelon-H: If you write something, there's a high chance of it corrupting the ntfs partition.
[04:55] <hannes_> ompaul: just reinstall it than
[04:55] <ompaul> hannes_, so therefore for the average user using the bleeding edge before it becomes a release candiate is not a good idea
[04:55] <caine> how do i run 'make install'
[04:55] <nalioth> Echelon-H: writing to NTFS could destroy the NTFS "bubble", causing total data loss to that partition
[04:55] <danko123> just as you said, caine.
[04:55] <jdizzle> funny thing is i also have it in the dir
[04:55] <reka> Bizzeh: what's on the other partition? windows?
[04:55] <nalioth> Echelon-H: reading from NTFS is a given today, but not writing
[04:55] <delire> jdizzle: have you 'cd build_mod/ && sh make.sh && cd .. && sh make_install' ?
[04:55] <ompaul> hannes_, one may not have that luxary
[04:55] <Bizzeh> and i wanna use a floppy to have grub on to boot ubuntu
[04:55] <Bizzeh> reka: xp
[04:56] <caine> if configure is like this './configure'
[04:56] <hannes_> ompaul: an why, may I ask?
[04:56] <caine> well i did this
[04:56] <marjorie-t> is there a program to guess modeline for your monitor?
[04:56] <ompaul> hannes_, it may be a production machine
[04:56] <caine> caine@Caine:~/Desktop/My Documents/yahoo/gtkhtml-0.8$ ./make\install
[04:56] <dimeo> ompaul here's what's listed in fstab   "/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[04:56] <dimeo> "
[04:56] <delire> jdizzle: you have to run the make script in build_mod first.
[04:56] <caine> and got this
[04:56] <jacquesmerde> reka, not to my eye
[04:56] <danko123>  make install
[04:56] <caine> bash: ./makeinstall: No such file or directory
[04:56] <danko123> jsut like that.
[04:56] <caine> caine@Caine:~/Desktop/My Documents/yahoo/gtkhtml-0.8$
[04:56] <hannes_> ompaul: well, my machine iisn't
[04:56] <delire> caine: make install
[04:56] <jdizzle> i have that file
[04:56] <Bizzeh> reka: it posible?
[04:56] <caine> caine@Caine:~/Desktop/My Documents/yahoo/gtkhtml-0.8$ ./make install
[04:56] <caine> bash: ./make: No such file or directory
[04:56] <Fator_Dee> hannes_: or there could be some data that's somehow crucial, possibilities are endless
[04:56] <jdizzle> somehow
[04:56] <jacquesmerde> reka, actually, its an ep. would that music be on the inner or outer part?
[04:56] <caine> caine@Caine:~/Desktop/My Documents/yahoo/gtkhtml-0.8$ make install
[04:56] <caine> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[04:57] <delire> jdizzle: and you can 'sh make.sh'?
[04:57] <ompaul> hannes_, so you may do what you choose to do, however less experianced users and those who seek realiabity may stay well back from the edge
[04:57] <reka> jacquesmerde: not sure, but does your drive make uneven sounds (like it's starting and stopping)?
[04:57] <hannes_> Fator_Dee: well, I think that it wouldn't break my /home partition
[04:57] <delire> jdizzle: in fglrx/build_mod/
[04:57] <hannes_> or the backup on my fileserver
[04:57] <karim> what is the recommanded dhcp server ?
[04:57] <marjorie-t> caine: run configure first
[04:57] <synd> Amaranth: you alive?
[04:57] <danko123> dhcpd:-p
[04:57] <jdizzle> when i run sh make.sh I get that error
[04:57] <Amaranth> synd: yeah
[04:57] <karim> danko123, dhcp3-server ?
[04:57] <Fator_Dee> hannes_: but if you really, really wan't to use breezy, then use it
[04:57] <karim> what is the difference ?
[04:57] <Daylighthater> Question how do I install 2.6.11 kernel, currently running 2.6.10
[04:57] <caine> i did
[04:57] <reka> Bizzeh: i'm not sure.  when i've dualbooted i always installed grub onto the mbr
[04:57] <caine> thats finished
[04:57] <jacquesmerde> reka, kinda. a bit clicky too
[04:57] <hannes_> Fator_Dee: But I'm already running it
[04:57] <Amaranth> karim: you don't want it, the 2.6.11 in hoary isn't really 2.6.11
[04:57] <danko123> karim: not sure:)
[04:58] <synd> Amaranth: just got a dual 2.0ghz powermac : )
[04:58] <jdizzle> ill show u my output for the make on private chat
[04:58] <Fator_Dee> hannes_: ok then
[04:58] <hannes_> and works /nearly) fine
[04:58] <Amaranth> synd: you suck
[04:58] <nalioth> synd: who'd ya knock over for that?
[04:58] <delire> jdizzle: which version of fglrx? perhaps delete the entire fglrx directory and install it again with dpkg.
[04:58] <reka> jacquesmerde: try burning a copy.  your cd is probably scratched somewhere. (have you tried cleaning it)?
[04:58] <caine> i already ran configure
[04:58] <marjorie-t> well then either something failed dureing configure or make then
[04:58] <hannes_> Xsessionmanager popups an empty message after I login
[04:58] <caine> and it finished
[04:58] <karim> Amaranth, 2.6.11 hangs my computer
[04:58] <Amaranth> synd: also, where do you live so i can come steal it?
[04:58] <marjorie-t> and make?
[04:58] <hannes_> and some packages don't install
[04:58] <caine> i dont think it worked right though
[04:58] <hannes_> but otherwise it's just fine
[04:58] <caine> caine@Caine:~/Desktop/My Documents/yahoo/gtkhtml-0.8$ ./configure
[04:58] <caine> creating cache ./config.cache
[04:58] <caine> checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[04:58] <caine> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
[04:58] <caine> checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
[04:58] <caine> checking for working aclocal... missing
[04:58] <synd> Amaranth, nalioth: i took it from the storage room at work.. : )
[04:58] <caine> checking for working autoconf... missing
[04:58] <caine> checking for working automake... missing
[04:59] <caine> checking for working autoheader... missing
[04:59] <danko123> yay
[04:59] <caine> checking for working makeinfo... missing
[04:59] <ompaul> dimeo, 'sudo mount /media/floppy0'  however it may not have a format that works automagically have a look at command like mdir (from the mtools series) if it has a dos format on it
[04:59] <Amaranth> karim: yeah, it isn't really 2.6.11, it's from an unstable snapshot of the kernel sometime after 2.6.10
[04:59] <marjorie-t>  !!
[04:59] <caine> checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
[04:59] <nalioth> Amaranth: i'll help ya, if ya make me an account on it
[04:59] <ubotu> I am not your damn csh prompt!
[04:59] <danko123> wooho
[04:59] <caine> checking for gcc... no
[04:59] <jdizzle> im pretty new to linux so i have no idea what directory to delete
[04:59] <caine> checking for cc... no
[04:59] <caine> configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
[04:59] <Amaranth> karim: so it's buggy as hell
[04:59] <Fator_Dee> fl00d
[04:59] <marjorie-t> dude dont spam
[04:59] <Amaranth> caine: Don't do that again please.
[04:59] <synd> caine: use #flood
[04:59] <ompaul> caine Stop please
[04:59] <Shuddertrix> caine: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:59] <Amaranth> caine: sudo apt-get install built-essential
[04:59] <danko123> caine: you can use http://pastebin.com for readability as well.
[04:59] <Amaranth> err, what he said
[04:59] <jacquesmerde> reka, yeah, tried cleaning it, what's the proper way to do that?
[04:59] <Shuddertrix> caine: And please stop flooding, that is what pastebin and #flood are for
[04:59] <Amaranth> danko123: pastebin isn't what i'd call readable
[04:59] <nalioth> synd: so how often is the storage room door open?
[04:59] <Amaranth> danko123: http://rafb.net/paste/
[04:59] <danko123> Amaranth: so ??
[05:00] <jacquesmerde> why does an ubuntu install default to an ext3 filesystem? just curious...
[05:00] <danko123> thanks, tho, I like pastebin, it is fine.
[05:00] <caine> didnt know about pastebin and #flood
[05:00] <marjorie-t> Is there anything else that would stop monitor working apart from res depth and refresh?
[05:00] <jdizzle> caine: im usin fglrx-6-8-0
[05:00] <danko123> now you do:)
[05:00] <Bizzeh> reka: i cant do that tho can i
[05:00] <danko123> neither did I:)
[05:00] <synd> nalioth: well, since i work in the IS and Network Services dept, i have a key to the storage room
[05:00] <Bizzeh> cos i already have windows installed
[05:00] <reka> Daylighthater: install linux-386 or linux-686 (depends on your pref.) reboot and you should have a new entry for it in your bootloader
[05:00] <Bizzeh> and windows boot loader is in mbr
[05:00] <caine> jdizzle and what is that supposed to mean to me
[05:00] <jdizzle> caine: it came with new ubunu
[05:00] <HacheTesR> hello
[05:00] <caine> what is it
[05:00] <capi> What is the syntax to mount a samba partion with ubuntu, I was trying smbmount username=UN password=SAMBA ip=<IP_ADDRESS> and it tells me it can't resolve the mount point?
[05:00] <Amaranth> synd: did you just tell me that to gloat or did you need help running smeg on ppc hoary? :)
[05:01] <jdizzle> caine: whoops hehe
[05:01] <synd> nalioth: just to gloat : )
[05:01] <synd> Amaranth: *
[05:01] <jdizzle> delire: im usin fglrx-6-8-0
[05:01] <reka> jacquesmerde: :) i always just wiped it with a soft cloth or the back of my hand.
[05:01] <Daylighthater> I've already installed linux-686
[05:01] <marjorie-t> capi, have u tried a smb:// in nautilyus?
[05:01] <dimeo> Reading on the forums, it seems other people are also finding that your standard formatted floppy can't be mounted, when Ubuntu is first installed.  I hope this is changed in upcoming versions.
[05:01] <nalioth> synd: too much gloat will turn your face pruny
[05:01] <caine> so what is ' sudo apt-get install build-essential' supposed to do
[05:01] <synd> not at 18 years old!
[05:02] <nalioth> caine, it gives you all your development goodness
[05:02] <Shuddertrix> caine: install the required compilers and tools to allow you to build.
[05:02] <synd> Amaranth: im thinking about putting as many PPC OS'es i can on it
[05:02] <caine> ok its done
[05:02] <Fator_Dee> caine: it's going to install packages that are essential to build your own applications from source
[05:02] <pirroH> hi, is there a way to use standard cups web interface in ubuntu??
[05:02] <Shuddertrix> caine: you can use synaptic to read package's descriptions. start doing that.
[05:02] <nalioth> synd: stick with OSX
[05:02] <delire> jdizzle: so that's for xorg..
[05:02] <HacheTesR> is ther some french people here please ?
[05:02] <capi> marjorie-t, is nautilyus a web browser, I'm running only the command line interface here.
[05:02] <delire> nalioth: ewww
[05:02] <jdizzle> delire: yah
[05:02] <caine> shudder yahoo msg isnt in there i already checked
[05:02] <Bizzeh> reka: so is it hard to do with windows already in the boot sector
[05:02] <synd> nalioth: i agree, but i have 3 mac minis, 2 imac g5's and an iBook g4 that all run OSX ;p
[05:02] <nalioth> HacheTesR: is anyone is #ubuntu-fr?
[05:02] <Amaranth> HacheTesR: #ubuntu-fr might be better
[05:02] <caine> and neither is this gtkhtml-0.8 prog
[05:02] <jdizzle> delire: but i have no idea why id get that error...... the file is there
[05:02] <marjorie-t> ah, sry i was assumeing u had x runing
[05:02] <HacheTesR> thx Amaranth
[05:03] <WeirdAl> Hey guys... what's the Linux equivalent of alt-codes?
[05:03] <Amaranth> caine: ubuntu has gtkhtml....
[05:03] <nalioth> synd: holy *$&_@)$ talk about gloat
[05:03] <synd> delire: OS X owns you
[05:03] <Shuddertrix> caine: why not just the 1.0.2 version of gtkhtml?
[05:03] <reka> Bizzeh: no.  it's actually quite easy.
[05:03] <delire> jdizzle: and you are sh make.sh from inside the build_mod directory
[05:03] <delire> synd: hah! not on my g4 tower it doesn't ;)
[05:03] <Amaranth> i hate the doc
[05:03] <BoD_SWAT> GFTP doesn't use SSL (my server VSFTPD uses that). I try to compile using "--enable-ssl" but it doesn't work. Help?
[05:03] <caine> this is why
[05:03] <caine> "This client uses an un-GNOMEified version of GtkHTML 0.8, which is under the LGPL. Download the source."
[05:03] <Amaranth> err, dock
[05:03] <jdizzle> delire: yah wanna see my whole output for that
[05:03] <marjorie-t> Guys is there anything else i shouyld look at to get my screenworking apart from res depth and refresh
[05:04] <delire> jdizzle: put it in the pastebin
[05:04] <Bizzeh> reka: can you tell me the important bits?
[05:04] <delire> lonewolff: that's the spirit ;)
[05:04] <caine> people im new and havnt the slightest damn clue what i am doing
[05:04] <synd> delire: running PPC ubuntu on it?
[05:04] <caine> im just following instructions as i go
[05:04] <synd> lonewolff: oooo
[05:04] <delire> synd: debian. i tried OSX and couldn't stand it
[05:04] <caine> and most of them dont make any damn sense
[05:04] <jdizzle> delire: pastebin?
[05:04] <synd> lonewolff: g4 cubes are pretty : )
[05:04] <nalioth> BoD_SWAT: the gftp that came from the repos uses SSL by default. did you compile yours from scratch?
[05:04] <synd> delire: boo
[05:04] <marjorie-t> Caine perhaps ready up on gcc compileing etc
[05:04] <lonewolff> synd: yeah, pity apple stopped making them, pita to upgrade tho
[05:04] <BoD_SWAT> first I used the one from the repos. That didn't work, so I tried to compile it from scratch
[05:05] <BoD_SWAT> nalioth, first I used the one from the repos. That didn't work, so I tried to compile it from scratch
[05:05] <Amaranth> that would rock
[05:05] <dimeo> what type of mountpoint should my usb keychain be set to?  It mounts and then disappears.
[05:05] <delire> Amaranth: would be nice.
[05:05] <Amaranth> with MOL for access to iApps
[05:05] <jdizzle> delire: whats pastebin
[05:05] <synd> i ran ubuntu on one of my imacs for a while
[05:05] <reka> Bizzeh: how many partitions do you currently have? just the one with windows on it?
[05:05] <Bizzeh> yes
[05:05] <nalioth> BoD_SWAT: hmm, i run PPC, you'd think the x86 (you are on x86, right) tree would be the same or more advanced
[05:05] <Amaranth> jdizzle: http://rafb.net/paste/
[05:05] <Bizzeh> i know to make one about 30gb big at the end
[05:05] <synd> but it doesnt support the damn airport card so i nixed it :/
[05:06] <danko123> whats a cube?
[05:06] <Amaranth> synd: blame broadcom
[05:06] <caine>  iv already read through that stuff and it didnt make sense to me either
[05:06] <delire> jdizzle: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/
[05:06] <nalioth> synd: thats why ubuntu isnt on my new 12" iBook (no APX support)
[05:06] <synd> Amaranth: i know :/
[05:06] <mon> hi, via nautilus i can access a smb drive, is there a -easy- way to "cd" into it via console?
[05:06] <marjorie-t> Perhaps the nvidia modeule doesnt like this crappy screen??
[05:06] <synd> nalioth: me too
[05:06] <Amaranth> delire: they don't make g4 cubes anymore
[05:06] <lonewolff> mon: mount the samba share
[05:06] <nalioth> danko123: r u serious?
[05:06] <delire> Amaranth: oh..
[05:06] <Amaranth> delire: those things were awesome, but they were really meant for OS X
[05:07] <BoD_SWAT> nalioth, I think I have the 'error'... please hold :P
[05:07] <mon> lonewolff: mount -t smbfs you mean?
[05:07] <lonewolff> yes
[05:07] <marjorie-t> Caine, if it didnt make sence then our replies to you wont be much help!
[05:07] <Amaranth> delire: running them with OS 9 is frustrating
[05:07] <danko123> nalioth: yeah, what a mac mini?
[05:07] <nalioth> danko123: apple's famous G4 cube?
[05:07] <nalioth> danko123: the mac mini is the bastard offspring of the cube
[05:07] <mon> lonewolff: i hoped there was a gui-way of doing it.. but thanks anyway
[05:07] <caine> when you guys tell me exactly how to type this stuff then it does help because im learning from that
[05:07] <synd> im putting a Mac Mini in my car
[05:07] <danko123> never heard of it I never really knew what Mac had b4 i bought this iBook.
[05:07] <nalioth> synd: KEWLness
[05:07] <caine> i cant learn from reading as easily as i can from doing
[05:07] <delire> Amaranth: i think the powerbooks are pretty horribly made however. sort of 'tinny' and the keyboards feel a bit cheap. the towers and cubes are quite appealing however.
[05:07] <lonewolff> mon: i wouldnt know sorry, no samab/windows here
[05:07] <reka> Bizzeh: rough guide: (1) backup important stuff (2) boot off ubuntu installation CD (3) when you reach the partition stage, select the windows partition and then the 'size' value  (4) - resize to make space for ubuntu (5) select newly freed space, choose automatic partition (6) when it asks if you want to install grub on mbr, choose yes.
[05:08] <spiral> hello
[05:08] <synd> nalioth: ive found a ton of free hotspots around town here
[05:08] <spiral> hmmm, could anyone point me to a backports repo for hoary ?
[05:08] <marjorie-t> Has anyone here run the nvidia kernel moduel on an Old 15" screen?
[05:08] <Echelon-H> How can I remove a game that was installed by a .run file?
[05:08] <Bizzeh> reka: windows partition is ntfs, that make a diff?
[05:08] <Amaranth> backports break things
[05:08] <spiral> backports.ubuntuforums.org/ doens't seem to work
[05:08] <synd> nalioth: i sat in fazolis parking lot and surfed the net :D
[05:08] <reka> Bizzeh: i recommend you google around or check the ubuntu sites for a more detailed guide.
[05:08] <caine> configure: error: Cannot find GTK: is gtk-config in path?
[05:08] <BoD_SWAT> nalioth, the problem is that gftp uses SSH, and the FTP server uses SSL
[05:08] <lonewolff> the origonal g4 powerbooks were nice, and titanium, now their magnesium and aluminium which is no fun
[05:08] <agnes> hey all!
[05:08] <spiral> Amaranth: under debian, they don't really often
[05:08] <jdizzle> delire: pasted it
[05:08] <agnes> what's the best way to get the newest OOo betas?
[05:08] <Bizzeh> reka: no, yours is fine, i dont use guides that are more than 10 steps long
[05:08] <delire> jdizzle: ok..
[05:08] <reka> Bizzeh: no, you can resize it.  but when you have ubuntu installed, you will only have read-access.
[05:09] <Bizzeh> thats ok
[05:09] <synd> lonewolff: the black ones?
[05:09] <Bizzeh> ok
[05:09] <synd> lonewolff: or was that the pbook g3
[05:09] <Bizzeh> bbl hopefully
[05:09] <marjorie-t> caine : check with this command : ECHO $PATH
[05:09] <reka> Bizzeh: good luck!
[05:09] <Amaranth> spiral: under ubuntu, they do
[05:09] <dimeo> Ok, when I try to unmount the floppy it says it can't because "umount: only root can unmount /dev/fd0 from /media/floppy0"
[05:09] <lonewolff> synd: that was a g3 the origonal g4 pbook looked like they do now, but was titanium and not aluminium
[05:09] <spiral> Amaranth: damn it... I miss my ol' debian sid
[05:09] <dimeo> any suggestions here?
[05:09] <Bizzeh> good job i got a new 160gb hdd yesterday to move all my music and tv shows to
[05:09] <delire> jdizzle: type 'uname -r'
[05:09] <Shuddertrix> dimeo: read what it says.
[05:09] <synd> lonewolff: ah yeah, the TiBOok
[05:09] <Bizzeh> and its also a good job i did it over last night
[05:10] <synd> TiBook
[05:10] <reka> dimeo: sudo
[05:10] <Bizzeh> 4 hrs to move 87gb
[05:10] <Amaranth> spiral: you could always ride the breezy trainwreck if you want things to break daily like sid :)
[05:10] <spiral> Amaranth: sid doesn't break daily...
[05:10] <kev0r> How do i play .ogm files, Mplayer wiht all codex, VLC nor totem-xine will play them
[05:10] <lonewolff> Bizzeh: thats not bad, it took me about 24 to move 120gb over nfs (10mbit wireless netowkr)
[05:10] <Amaranth> spiral: i last used it after warty released
[05:10] <spiral> I would consider breezy much more like experimental than like sid
[05:10] <Amaranth> spiral: after releases sid breaks a lot
[05:10] <lonewolff> kev0r: vlc will play ogm files
[05:10] <dimeo> Ok but for the user logged in they need to unmount the floppy without going root or sudo...
[05:10] <jdizzle> delire: 2.6.10-5-386
[05:10] <caine> caine@Caine:~/Desktop/My Documents/yahoo/gtkhtml-0.8$ ECHO $PATH bash: ECHO: command not found
[05:10] <delire> jdizzle: i don't think that is bad news. it's just a warning.
[05:10] <Bizzeh> lonewolff: this was just from 1 volume to another
[05:11] <kev0r> lonewolff: no it wont play these
[05:11] <synd> when should we update to breezy?
[05:11] <Fator_Dee> kev0r: that's odd, VLC atleast should play them
[05:11] <synd> im afraid to
[05:11] <lonewolff> kev0r: then theyre not ogm files :P
[05:11] <Echelon-H> is there anyway I can run xmms with repeat on?
[05:11] <Amaranth> synd: 2-3 months from now
[05:11] <Bizzeh> tryed to copy 30gb over a 100mbit network before
[05:11] <Fator_Dee> kev0r: are you sure the files are ok?
[05:11] <kev0r> :)
[05:11] <Bizzeh> slow as fuck
[05:11] <Bizzeh> woops
[05:11] <delire> jdizzle: 'cd .. && sh make_install.sh'
[05:11] <Bizzeh> excuse me
[05:11] <dimeo> The system can mount without going root or sudo.. shouldn't it unmount without going root or sudo?
[05:11] <kev0r> Fator_Dee: like 10 files all failing?
[05:11] <kev0r> Fator_Dee: i'll up one :)
[05:11] <Fator_Dee> kev0r: like, it should play them, but it's not?
[05:11] <Fator_Dee> kev0r: do yo uhave read permissions for the files?
[05:12] <littleworm> i tried to make the mouse extra buttons to work, so i had to cinfig something but now when start ubuntu it says: "i cant start the x server" some more shit and "configure GDM again and restart", what should i do?
[05:12] <reka> Echelon-H: enable repeat :-)
[05:12] <Bizzeh> reka: how do i set up grub to detect my windows partition os i can still boot that
[05:12] <caine> ok i have to go
[05:12] <kev0r> yes, btw Fator_Dee they are AVI's
[05:12] <kev0r> .avi
[05:12] <reka> Bizzeh: it will do it automatically.  when you'
[05:12] <jdizzle> delire: that worked out fine
[05:12] <kev0r> and i have .ogm files
[05:12] <delire> jdizzle: then edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to read 'fglrx' in place of your existing driver and restart X. then run 'glxinfo | grep direct'
[05:12] <kev0r> both are not playing, but normal DVDrips are playing
[05:12] <reka> *you're setting stuff up, refer to ubuntuguide.org
[05:12] <kev0r> xvid 'n shit
[05:12] <marjorie-t> bugger sry caine : echo $PATH
[05:12] <delire> jdizzle: i think you're done. that was just an obtuse warning.
[05:12] <Bizzeh> ogm is a container file, that can hold container files
[05:12] <BoD_SWAT> The problem is that gftp uses SSH2, and the FTP server uses SSL. And I NEED SSL ... :'-(   HELP
[05:12] <synd> im tired man, i spent the last 24 hrs in jail :x
[05:13] <Bizzeh> which alot of stuff doesnt like
[05:13] <jdizzle> delire: but it did b4 and the driver still didnt show
[05:13] <Bizzeh> esp mplayer
[05:13] <reka> Bizzeh: it has instructions for mounting NTFS
[05:13] <littleworm> i tried to make the mouse extra buttons to work, so i had to cinfig something but now when start ubuntu it says: "i cant start the x server" some more shit and "configure GDM again and restart", what should i do?
[05:13] <BoD_SWAT> kev0r, xvid works fine here. Just use mplayer with codecs
[05:13] <delire> jdizzle: 'modprobe -l | grep fglrx'
[05:13] <kev0r> BoD_SWAT: but the files are still not playing :)
[05:13] <delire> jdizzle: that looks for all available drivers, loaded or not.
[05:13] <capi> What is the samba mount point for a default windows XP setup?
[05:13] <synd> for those of you who have never spent a night in jail, i dont recommend it
[05:13] <kev0r> is there a small linux program that checks what codec the file is?
[05:13] <Fator_Dee> kev0r: what vlc says about the files when you are trying to view them?
[05:14] <kev0r> lemme run
[05:14] <Bizzeh> kev0r: ogm is a container, you can hold any movie data, and any sound data in there. the problem is when people put data in there in the form of a container... ie, putting ogg in as the sound, instead of raw vorbis
[05:14] <jdizzle> delire: what do i do with that
[05:14] <littleworm> i tried to make the mouse extra buttons to work, so i had to cinfig something but now when start ubuntu it says: "i cant start the x server" some more shit and "configure GDM again and restart", what should i do?
[05:14] <delire> jdizzle: 'modprobe -l' is useful. the '| grep fglrx' part just filters for fglrx
[05:14] <Fator_Dee> kev0r: and *don't* paste the output here
[05:14] <delire> jdizzle: did you get any return on that?
[05:14] <kev0r> nah :P
[05:14] <BoD_SWAT> kev0r, did you use the 'guide' and did you install the codecs etc?
[05:14] <jdizzle> delire: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko
[05:14] <reka> kev0r: type file <filename>
[05:14] <delire> jdizzle: great! now load it with 'modprobe fglrx'
[05:15] <delire> jdizzle: and you're nearly done..
[05:15] <capi> right now I'm using //SHARE/LOCAL_MNTPNT and that doesn't work... :\
[05:15] <delire> jdizzle: to see if it did load type 'lsmod | grep fglrx'. lsmod == list modules
[05:15] <nalioth> kev0r: file <filename>
[05:16] <nalioth> synd: paying for your dually?
[05:16] <kev0r> yes BoD_SWAT running XviDs 'n DivX almost evry day, even WMV
[05:16] <Bizzeh> right
[05:16] <Bizzeh> bbl
[05:16] <Bizzeh> i hope
[05:16] <jdizzle> delire: fglrx                 232444  0
[05:16] <kev0r> file Hajime_no_Ippo_-_01_\[Keep-Infusion\] \[50ef1a1e\] .avi
[05:16] <kev0r> Hajime_no_Ippo_-_01_[Keep-Infusion] [50ef1a1e] .avi: data
[05:16] <apollo2011>  I am trying to edit the Samba configuration in KControl and whenever I use Administrator Mode and enter my user password, it just goes back to the blue start page. I was able to edit the configuration before.
[05:16] <BoD_SWAT> kev0r, maybe the files are corrupt?
[05:16] <kev0r> :) that's not helping
[05:16] <BoD_SWAT> nalioth, The problem is that gftp uses SSH2, and the FTP server uses SSL. And I NEED SSL ... :'-(   HELP
[05:16] <delire> jdizzle: more good news. now have you ever edited your xorg.conf before?
[05:16] <kev0r> then bout 20 files are corrupt?
[05:16] <kev0r> i'll check the md5hash code :)
[05:17] <Fator_Dee> kev0r: and check the sfv
[05:17] <jdizzle> i had to once
[05:17] <jdizzle> delire: ya
[05:17] <jdizzle> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:17] <delire> jdizzle: ok you should look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if you can find the section 'Driver'
[05:17] <kev0r> btw: vlc has no output, just stops playing
[05:17] <nalioth> BoD_SWAT: and whomever you are leeching from isnt using a sshd also?
[05:18] <ccc_> how update apt-get
[05:18] <ccc_> ??
[05:18] <reka> kev0r: what the output should have looked like: /home/justin/videos/abi1.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 704 x 384, 25.00 fps, video: DivX 5, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)
[05:18] <delire> jdizzle: you may have "ati" or "vesa" in there now. whatever is in there currently, change to fglrx.
[05:18] <danko123> sudo apt-get update?
[05:18] <nalioth> ccc_: you have it backwards "sudo apt-get update"
[05:18] <kev0r> hmm
[05:18] <delire> jdizzle: then restart X by logging out and back in (even reboot to be sure).
[05:18] <ccc_> ok
[05:18] <ccc_> thx
[05:18] <jdizzle> delire: k brb
[05:18] <danko123> k
[05:18] <reka> kev0r: try renaming
[05:18] <reka> the file
[05:19] <kev0r> $ file DBGT_01_-_A_Grand_Problem_-_\[aX\] .ogm
[05:19] <kev0r> DBGT_01_-_A_Grand_Problem_-_[aX] .ogm: data
[05:19] <littleworm> i tried to make the mouse extra buttons to work, so i had to config something but now when start ubuntu it says: "i cant start the x server" some more shit and "configure GDM again and restart", what should i do?
[05:19] <BoD_SWAT> nalioth, for the record. It's my own FTP (so I can access my files from everywhere).  So the encryption could be more secure, but the way you use it, is less secure
[05:20] <danko123> rebooted, no X still.
[05:20] <nalioth> dimeo: whatever works for YOU
[05:20] <Gus_> i have this weird thing happening: when i want to launch Firefox through the shortcut on the panel, it seems to load, then stops, and nothing happens. when i run the command line in term, it launches perfectly... same for thunderbird btw... any idea ?
[05:20] <BoD_SWAT> nalioth, but you don't know of a way to get it working with ssl?
[05:20] <danko123> delire, yes, xorg, I think.
[05:20] <nalioth> BoD_SWAT: you do use good password habits, eh?
[05:20] <dimeo> did no one else here have this problem?
[05:20] <nalioth> BoD_SWAT: not gftp
[05:21] <reka> danko123: like i said, you should avoid using reconfigure if possible.  the howto only told you to change "ati" to "fglrx" iirc
[05:21] <BoD_SWAT> nalioth, OK. Thnx. Any substitutes you know of?
[05:21] <_kevin> can some one tell me how ic an obtain ices2 version 2.0.1 since that version has alsa support
[05:21] <_kevin> i tried apt-get install ices2 but it installs version 2.0.0
[05:21] <dimeo> It's not like my floppy is an unusual piece of hardware that needs Windows specific drivers  !
[05:21] <danko123> reka: Ive had ppl recommend that b4, well, I screwed up:9
[05:21] <danko123> :9
[05:21] <danko123> funk.
[05:21] <danko123> delire, so can you help us?
[05:22] <Gus_> anyone ? =/
[05:22] <nalioth> BoD_SWAT: sorry not for linux, although there are several out there, i only use gftp with my home ssh'd network (i'm behind a router/firewall)
[05:22] <delire> danko123: did you back up your last config?
[05:22] <danko123> not even:(
[05:22] <danko123> what can he do
[05:22] <danko123> ?
[05:22] <reka> Gus_: what is the command in the shortcut properties?
[05:22] <danko123> I screwed that up a bit...
[05:23] <AlwaysModest> is there any way for me to see how much ram is installed in my system, that is, w/o opening it up
[05:23] <BoD_SWAT> nalioth, http://www.iglooftp.com/linux/features.html
[05:23] <delire> danko123: i don't run xorg. though look in /var/log/X.org.log (ISTR).
[05:23] <Gus_> reka, for firefox it's the standard one, but i added sudo to it (so: "sudo firefox %u" without quotes)
[05:23] <BoD_SWAT> nalioth, only it's commercial :'(
[05:23] <delire> danko123: what is the error when you try to 'startx' from the console?
[05:23] <reka> Gus_: remove sudo. :-)
[05:23] <nalioth> BoD_SWAT: there are several for linux that are not
[05:23] <nalioth> BoD_SWAT: try freshmeat.net or sourceforge.net
[05:24] <danko123> delire, his lsmod | grep fglrx returns the fglrx       229568  0 thing
[05:24] <Gus_> reka, it used to work with sudo =/
[05:24] <BoD_SWAT> nalioth, thnx 4 all. I'll go on a hunt now ;-)
[05:24] <Fator_Dee> Gus_: not adviced to run browsers as root
[05:24] <Gus_> reka, i do that because i need to access a FAT32 partition and for some reason, i can't give my "user" the right to write on it
[05:24] <Gus_> Fator_Dee,  i guess so, malicious code and stuff, but see my explanation above =)
[05:25] <reka> Gus_: i fail to see how firefox would have anything to do with FAT acces. :-)
[05:25] <Fator_Dee> Gus_: but you should correct it by other means :-p
[05:25] <lonewolff> GUS_: should work if you chown the directory to be owned by the user
[05:25] <lonewolff> s/directory/mount point
[05:25] <danko123> delire: just a sec.
[05:25] <Gus_> reka, i set a profile on a FAT32 partition to use it on both XP and ubuntu, and wen i try to create a profile on it, Firefox tells me it can't
[05:25] <Gus_> using sudo, it could
[05:25] <reka> ah
[05:25] <Fator_Dee> Gus_: permission problems then?
[05:26] <Gus_> lonewolff, care to explain how please ? thanks =D
[05:26] <lonewolff> Gus_: open up a terminal
[05:26] <Gus_> Fator_Dee,  i tried to change the permission but it wouldn't work, so i guess i didn't do it properly =)
[05:26] <danko123> delire:  first..it skips 3 directories
[05:26] <dimeo> whats the /dev/sdb1? anyone?
[05:26] <Fator_Dee> Gus_: I'd guess so too :-p
[05:26] <Gus_> done sir =)
[05:26] <danko123> delire: then it says (EE) No devices detected.
[05:26] <danko123> dimeo: maybe a USB device.
[05:26] <lonewolff> Gus_: then run chown youruser /media/whereveritmountsto
[05:27] <lonewolff> sorry sudo chown
[05:27] <Gus_> i had corrected =)
[05:27] <reka> danko123: post your xorg.conf file in a pastebin
[05:27] <danko123> not possible...
[05:27] <lonewolff> Gus_: that worked the last time i tried it
[05:27] <danko123> reka, cause the guy doesnt have X.
[05:27] <raDeon> I WANT PICTURE OF HOT DEBIAN WOMAN
[05:27] <Gus_> lonewolff, chown: changing ownership of `/datashare/': Operation not permitted
[05:27] <danko123> why not just hot woman?
[05:27] <raDeon> i don't care
[05:27] <Fator_Dee> raDeon: WWW.GOOGLE.COM
[05:28] <raDeon> i just figure
[05:28] <Gus_> was the same with /datashare without te ending /
[05:28] <capi> anyone know how to mount samba?
[05:28] <danko123> Fator_Dee: :)
[05:28] <dimeo> radeon she may be hot but she can't have a social life and use debian
[05:28] <lonewolff> Gus_: using sudo?
[05:28] <raDeon> it's linux so i will try to be on topic
[05:28] <reka> raDeon: join #debian and ask for dpkg
[05:28] <Gus_> lonewolff, aye
[05:28] <raDeon> dimeo, i dont care if she has no social life.
[05:28] <lonewolff> and try to do it when the fat32 partion is not mounted and then remount it
[05:28] <Gus_> ok
[05:28] <raDeon> as long as she uses irc and is hot
[05:28] <Gus_> will try
[05:28] <danko123> reka: any other ideas?
[05:28] <AlwaysModest> is there anyway to see how much ram is installed on my system?
[05:28] <delire> danko123: ok. and you are trying to use fglrx also?
[05:28] <danko123> delire: this is the next thing it says: XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server "0:0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. .
[05:28] <dimeo> radeon why you gonna give her one? =)
[05:29] <danko123> yeah, well, his card is x700
[05:29] <reka> danko123: does he know how to use an editor that doesn't need X?
[05:29] <Shuddertrix> dimeo: I beg to differ.
[05:29] <danko123> that is the proper one.
[05:29] <delire> danko123: sorry, i have no idea where you are upto or what you're trying to do.
[05:29] <danko123> reka: yeah, hes pretty handy..
[05:29] <Gus_> lonewolff, cannot, "device is busy" ^
[05:29] <danko123> delire: we are not able to start X, the graphics card is ATI x700, and he is using Hoary.
[05:29] <Gus_> oh cool, worked
[05:29] <ubuntu> how do i get the right codecs to play this .avi file?
[05:30] <danko123> delire: we have followed http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto and still X is not working.
[05:30] <reka> danko123: i'd like to know what he has as Driver:
[05:30] <danko123> is that all?
[05:30] <reka> under his VG Device section
[05:30] <nalioth> brb
[05:30] <toxicfume> hey
[05:30] <danko123> hey
[05:30] <raDeon> dimeo, i'm going to make babies
[05:30] <danko123> so, reka, can you try helping toxicfume?
[05:30] <danko123> I have to go lay down again, Im sick.
[05:31] <Fanskapet> danko123, black screen at xorg startup?
[05:31] <toxicfume> danko123: thanks for helping:)
[05:31] <danko123> yup.
[05:31] <toxicfume> reka: how do i find that out?
[05:31] <Fanskapet> ahh same for me then
[05:31] <toxicfume> Fanskapet: yup
[05:31] <dimeo> shuddertrix  I bet it took a few hours to get your debian set up.  I've spent all weekend just to get the basics set up, like a stinkin wifi and floppy
[05:31] <Fanskapet> i gave it up :)
[05:31] <reka> toxicfume: : change the Driver under your VG Device section to "ati" so you can at least boot back into gnome or whatever.
[05:31] <toxicfume> reka: how do i do that?
[05:31] <Fanskapet> my first thought was that it was some frequenzy problem, but it wasn't :)
[05:32] <Gus_> lonewolff, still the same problem: when i run firefox (without sudo this time), and chose my profile, located in /datashare/somedir/someotherdir/ it tells me the profile's in use
[05:32] <Fanskapet> actually i haven't got a clue what's wrong
[05:32] <reka> toxicfume: where are you now? in console?
[05:32] <danko123> he is talking about the /etc/x11/xorg.conf file
[05:32] <toxicfume> reka: yes
[05:32] <Gus_> which is why i used sudo in the first place, for with sudo it didn't tell me such thing
[05:32] <Windowsrules> If i install Ubuntu, do I risk damaginf my boot order. (I use a Gentoo-installed Grub now)
[05:32] <reka> toxicfume: do you know how to use an editor that doesn't use X?
[05:32] <danko123> windows rules........
[05:32] <toxicfume> reka: i can use nano
[05:32] <dimeo> how do I make it so the floppy can be unmounted without using sudo.
[05:32] <Fanskapet> ee is a nice little tool
[05:33] <Shuddertrix> dimeo: no, i was talking about "debian girls have no social life" comment you made.
[05:33] <Windowsrules> danko123: Yes, it does doesn't it. :)
[05:33] <danko123> no
[05:33] <reka> toxicfume: OK, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and change the Driver attribute under you're video card Device section back to "ati"
[05:33] <toxicfume> reka: okay one sec
[05:33] <robert_> how do i find out my root password?
[05:33] <ccc> ccc_: is that your regular nick? what a coinsidence. =)
[05:33] <dimeo> shuddertrix yea I know.  Any those .deb girls, still have to spend hours typing root commands to get their distro working.  unless their IT manager does it for them ;)
[05:34] <danko123> robert_: by default there is none set.
[05:34] <reka> robert_: thre isn't one, use *your* password.
[05:34] <delire> danko123: can you 'modprobe -l | grep fglrx'
[05:34] <Martin> Like this then?
[05:34] <danko123> he did
[05:34] <robert_> im trying to install a java plugin, nd i need to type in "su" at the terminal, but its asking me for a password
[05:34] <danko123> delire: he did.
[05:34] <Shuddertrix> dimeo: my wife tripleboots windows/sid/hoary, and she's teh hawt
[05:34] <dimeo> My wife is gonna be a hot debian girl when I finally get this stinkin think working
[05:34] <delire> danko123: who's 'he'?
[05:34] <danko123> delire: its toxicfume.
[05:34] <Shuddertrix> and she manages a social life
[05:34] <delire> danko123: ahah
[05:34] <Martin> If i install Ubuntu, do I risk damaging my boot order. (I use a Gentoo-installed Grub now)
[05:34] <Shuddertrix> she knows as much about linux as I do, which is plenty I suppose..
[05:35] <reka> robert_: type in your user passwrod
[05:35] <danko123> sudo modprobe fglrx 10:16:52) danko123: lsmod | grep fglrx actually
[05:35] <robert_> doesnt work
[05:35] <dimeo> shuddertrix no shit?  kudos man
[05:35] <toxicfume> reka: okay, edited
[05:35] <delire> danko123: right. and your /etc/X11/xorg.conf has the driver listed in the Driver section?
[05:35] <reka> toxicfume: try startx
[05:35] <danko123> so you guys gonna post those pictures:-p
[05:35] <danko123> delire: toxicfume...
[05:35] <Shuddertrix> plus, she games and works out with me. i'm probably the luckiest guy in the world ;)
[05:36] <reka> delire: i told him to change back to "ati" so he can at least post his xorg.conf file into a pastebin
[05:36] <danko123> dimeo, Shuddertrix, posting those pictures?
[05:36] <robert_> user password doesnt work
[05:36] <danko123> haha, for me and raDeon.
[05:36] <Shuddertrix> danko123: I told you yesterday, no pictures!
[05:36] <danko123> Shuddertrix: you had?
[05:36] <toxicfume> reka: black screen
[05:36] <Shuddertrix> unless you have the knowledege of getting into my /photos or /shared/photos!
[05:36] <toxicfume> reka: doesn't seem to work
[05:36] <dimeo> shure... just google hot wife pix
[05:36] <delire> toxicfume: and your /etc/X11/xorg.conf has the driver listed next to 'Driver' in the Devices section?
[05:37] <reka> toxicfume: can you get back to console?
[05:37] <dimeo> you'll find one
[05:37] <Shuddertrix> Maybe not you, danko123 , but i did to raDeon
[05:37] <danko123> delire: which driver, anyhow?
[05:37] <Bizzeh> reka: install locks up at "testing network repository"
[05:37] <danko123> ah, kk...
[05:37] <delire> reka: so he's tried to startx with the fglrx entry in his config?
[05:37] <toxicfume> delire: yes, i just chagned it to "ati" like reka told me to
[05:37] <danko123> Im fine, for your wives, tho:)
[05:37] <delire> danko123: fglrx no?
[05:37] <nalioth> back (as can obviously be seen)
[05:37] <toxicfume> reka: okay i'll get back to console now
[05:37] <danko123> delire, reka told him to change it to ati.
[05:37] <delire> toxicfume: you can't start X with fglrx in your Devices section?
[05:37] <danko123> ok, synch you 3 somehow, get on the same page.
[05:38] <danko123> communicate:)
[05:38] <reka> Bizzeh: ouch.  how many times did you try?
[05:38] <reka> danko123: lol
[05:38] <Rebroad> Hi. Anyone here know how to write a CD if one has zero free disk space please?
[05:38] <toxicfume> delire: yes i can..but i did that before and i get an error(in the blue screen)
[05:38] <agnes> hey all! Quick Q: I just discovered a "hack" to make it so the openoffice.org2 packages from hoary can be VERY easily replaced with any new beta.. How can I disseminate this? (mv /usr/lib/openoffice2 /usr/lib/openoffice2-old ; ln -s /opt/openoffice.org1.9.105 /usr/lib/openoffice2)
[05:38] <toxicfume> delire: and it shows a log
[05:38] <Bizzeh> ohh, it just changed to "testing security update repository"
[05:38] <delire> toxicfume: paste the error to a pastebin if you can.
[05:38] <Bizzeh> took about 15 mins
[05:38] <robert_> y cant i create any folders?
[05:39] <reka> delire: which is why i told him to change back to "ati" so he could at least boot back into gnome
[05:39] <danko123> agnes: post it on the forums, wiki, or something liek that.
[05:39] <delire> reka: ok
[05:39] <reka> delire: he doesn't have X! :-)
[05:39] <delire> toxicfume: have you used vim or nano before?
[05:39] <_kevin> can some one tell me how ic an obtain ices2 version 2.0.1 since that version has alsa support
[05:39] <_kevin> i tried apt-get install ices2 but it installs version 2.0.0
[05:39] <delire> reka: right..
[05:39] <danko123> he uses nano
[05:39] <toxicfume> delire: i'm pretty familiar with nano by now :)
[05:39] <reka> danko123: we're going down the same path again :-)
[05:39] <agnes> danko123: Where?
[05:39] <robert_> why can't I create a folder?
[05:40] <danko123> ubuntuforums.org ubuntulinux.org/wiki
[05:40] <raDeon> robert_, because you're a moron.
[05:40] <delire> toxicfume: what are the lines next to EE in you /var/log/X.org.log (guessing the logname, i don't use xorg)
[05:40] <raDeon> sorry
[05:40] <robert_> lol
[05:40] <danko123> robert_: where?
[05:40] <dimeo> ok someone must know how to set it up so everyone can unmount a floppy without using sudo
[05:40] <robert_> anywhere
[05:40] <toxicfume> delire: one sec
[05:40] <danko123> raDeon: lol...you are funny, amn.
[05:40] <robert_> well
[05:40] <robert_> in my urs folder
[05:40] <danko123> mkdir
[05:40] <robert_> usr*
[05:40] <delire> robert_: because you're trying to do it in a directory you don't have write permissions to?
[05:40] <Bizzeh> is crap downloading when "configuring apt" is doing on??
[05:40] <danko123> sudo mkdir will create one anywhere.
[05:40] <robert_> is that the padlock?
[05:40] <delire> robert_: yes
[05:40] <reka> Bizzeh: no.
[05:40] <Rebroad> robert_: it's called security
[05:41] <robert_> so how do i give myself write permissions in that folder?
[05:41] <Bizzeh> why it take 20 mins to just do that then?
[05:41] <Rebroad> robert_: why would you want them?
[05:41] <robert_> coz i want to install a java plugin
[05:41] <robert_> and it says i need to make a directory
[05:41] <reka> Bizzeh: what is your system?
[05:41] <danko123> aha, yeah, sudo mkdir.
[05:41] <delire> robert_: chown -R YOUR-USERNAME directory/
[05:41] <Rebroad> robert_: Do you need the java plugin for all users, or just for one user?
[05:41] <Bizzeh> ?
[05:41] <danko123> no...dont even do that...
[05:41] <robert_> just one i guess
[05:42] <Bizzeh> what you mean reka?
[05:42] <Rebroad> robert_: then install the plugin in the user directory area instead.
[05:42] <reka> robert_: your home folder is ~   /usr is not your "user folder"
[05:42] <robert_> oh
[05:42] <reka> Bizzeh: system specs?  do you have an old comp.?
[05:42] <GNAM> bochs 2.2 OUT!
[05:42] <delire> robert_: chown == change ownership. 'ls -l some-directory' reveals who the owner of that directory is.
[05:42] <reka> robert_: places->home
[05:43] <reka> *home folder
[05:43] <nalioth> GNAM: and bochs 2.2 does what in a new way?
[05:43] <Bizzeh> asrock board, amd 2200+ t'bred
[05:43] <Rebroad> robert_: you generally don't want to chown system directories. /usr is a system directory
[05:43] <robert_> oh ok
[05:43] <Bizzeh> 768ddr400 ram
[05:43] <robert_> shud i put it in my home directory?
[05:43] <toxicfume> delire: There's "(EE) Unable to find a framebuffer device", "(EE) RADEON(0): Failed to open framebuffer device, consult warnings and/or error...etc" <-- it's a text message
[05:43] <GNAM> look at official site.
[05:43] <Rebroad> robert_: i would if it's just for one user
[05:43] <Shuddertrix> nalioth: check the CHANGES file at the bochs' site
[05:43] <delire> robert_: don't touch anything outside of /home/your-username unless you absolutely know what you are doing.
[05:43] <raDeon> yes, who called me
[05:44] <robert_> ouch
[05:44] <robert_> ok
[05:44] <robert_> but i still cant install it
[05:44] <reka> robert_: you can do whatever you want :-)  maybe make a "My Downloads" folder or something
[05:44] <nalioth> Shuddertrix: yes i know, i was enquiring as to GNAM's obvious excitement!
[05:44] <delire> toxicfume: 'lsmod -l | grep fb'
[05:44] <robert_> i need to type in su
[05:44] <robert_> then it asks for a password
[05:44] <robert_> i tried all my passwords
[05:44] <Rebroad> robert_: what is this plugin called?
[05:44] <Bizzeh> it seems to be working now, rebooted and unpacking modules now
[05:44] <Bizzeh> so
[05:44] <robert_> jre-1_5_0_02-linux-i586
[05:44] <Bizzeh> should be good
[05:44] <Rebroad> robert_: is you use "sudo" instead of "su" it asks for your user password
[05:44] <delire> robert_: one of the reasons linux is so secure, you can't manipulate system directories without the appropriate permissions.
[05:44] <Bizzeh> on gf's laptop till its installed
[05:44] <danko123> su wont work, robert.
[05:44] <danko123> you have to enable it, first.
[05:45] <Bizzeh> gotta love wireless
[05:45] <danko123> And I wont tell you how, cause its wrong.
[05:45] <robert_> ooh
[05:45] <Shuddertrix> nalioth: a new vga option, cirrus. probably the biggest change.
[05:45] <toxicfume> delire: okay.. that returns "Usage: lsmod"
[05:45] <reka> Bizzeh: did you work out the resizing stuff OK?
[05:45] <danko123> Just use sudo
[05:45] <danko123> sudo command
[05:45] <nalioth> Shuddertrix: GNAM trying to make a little conversation so some of these peeps who may be ignorant of bochs could become interested if they knew what it was
[05:45] <robert_> kk
[05:45] <Rebroad> Hi. Anyone here know how to write a CD if one has zero free disk space please?
[05:45] <robert_> sudo wat?
[05:45] <delire> toxicfume: that was an L 'l' not a one 1
[05:45] <danko123> Rebroad: likely no way to do it...
[05:45] <sijmen> i have installed a ubuntu server, and a ubuntu client, the first with 'server' install, the other default. i've also set up a network in which they both reside. now i'd like to add ldap authentication, so that the client authenticates logins against the server. i've already found serveral howto's that describe how to achieve this with pam_ldap, but tho things i cannot find out: first, i needed to import some ldif file, with the entries. this prob
[05:45] <Bizzeh> reka: yes. the one on the ubuntu cd is billions of times faster than partition magic
[05:46] <toxicfume> delire: yes i did type -l
[05:46] <reka> robert_: the syntax is "sudo <command>" where sudo stands for "super user do"
[05:46] <robert_> oo
[05:46] <delire> toxicfume: sorry my mistake! i was thinking 'modprobe' ;)
[05:46] <toxicfume> lol okay
[05:46] <delire> toxicfume: lsmod | grep fb
[05:46] <Bizzeh> is there any way of enabling su in ubuntu?
[05:46] <toxicfume> delire: alright
[05:46] <delire> toxicfume: too many things at the same time
[05:46] <robert_> got it
[05:46] <Rebroad> Bizzeh: su is enabled
[05:46] <toxicfume> delire: nevermind :)
[05:47] <Rebroad> Bizzeh: It's just that root has not password until you give it one
[05:47] <toxicfume> delire: okay that retunrs a list
[05:47] <danko123> robert_: what are you installing, Java?
[05:47] <Bizzeh> ahh
[05:47] <robert_> yeah
[05:47] <robert_> manually
[05:47] <danko123> Which walkthru are you following?
[05:47] <beginner> where can i put  eth0 static?
[05:47] <danko123> is it a jre, or a jdk?
[05:47] <robert_> um
[05:47] <robert_> jre i believe
[05:47] <Bizzeh> sort of "we made this so you cant mess it up by default... if you mess it up.. its totaly your own fault"
[05:47] <danko123> oik, which walkthru are you following?
[05:47] <robert_> the online one
[05:47] <robert_> the java one at their site
[05:47] <danko123> online wheer?
[05:47] <danko123> aha, wrong...
[05:47] <delire> toxicfume: do you see anything like 'radeonfb.ko'?
[05:47] <robert_> http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting
[05:47] <g14> jre = java runtime environment, jdk = java development kit. Unless you compile java, you want the jre
[05:47] <danko123> let me tell you...
[05:47] <danko123> :)
[05:48] <Alinux> how can I condivide internet connection with WMware 5.0 in Ubuntu... there is bridge connecion.
[05:48] <beginner>  what is command for eth0 static?
[05:48] <robert_> yeah i got the jre
[05:48] <Alinux> ?
[05:48] <delire> toxicfume: or anything like fb_dev.ko?
[05:48] <toxicfume> delire: nope
[05:48] <toxicfume> delire: not that too, the closest i see it fbcon
[05:48] <delire> toxicfume: did you dpkg-rconfigure your xserver at any point?
[05:48] <delire> toxicfume: dpkg-reconfigure*, i meant to say
[05:48] <toxicfume> delire: a few times already
[05:49] <toxicfume> yup
[05:49] <danko123> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java or http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[05:49] <delire> toxicfume: you need to disable framebuffer devices. you have none loaded so X isn't starting.
[05:49] <danko123> robert^
[05:49] <Rebroad> robert_: use www.ubuntuguide.org instead
[05:49] <delire> toxicfume: this, i believe is your problem
[05:49] <raDeon> haha robert
[05:49] <beginner> hao i change my ip?
[05:49] <delire> toxicfume: this, i believe is your problem
[05:49] <toxicfume> delire: how do i do that? in dpkg-reconfigure again?
[05:49] <nalioth> beginner: iwconfig
[05:49] <robert_> ok
[05:49] <danko123> nalioth: ???
[05:50] <danko123> for eth0 static?
[05:50] <medkit> hi all
[05:50] <toxicfume> delire: i dont think s actually, cause i have tried reconfigure with framebuffer off..and still it didnt work
[05:50] <robert_> thx
[05:50] <reka> someone recommended this guide over ubguide's: http://serios.net/content/debian/java/with-java-package.php
[05:50] <delire> toxicfume: yes, or edit the file manually.
[05:50] <toxicfume> *so
[05:50] <nalioth> danko123: i'm jumpin in and out of the chair here
[05:50] <nalioth> danko123: sorry i answered an old question
[05:50] <nich> Could someone tell me what to do to get a gnome session running if a new user with nothing on its home dir won't even load gnome past the splash screen?
[05:50] <danko123> why are you always apologizing?
[05:50] <beginner> nalioth i have that eth0      no wireless extensions.
[05:50] <nich> (after an upgrade from warty to hoary)
[05:50] <delire> toxicfume: ahah, well the error above points to x.org expecting a framebuffer device. try
[05:50] <beginner> i can not means?
[05:50] <nalioth> danko123: how do YOU change your IP?
[05:51] <danko123> :)
[05:51] <danko123> what?
[05:51] <toxicfume> delire: okay, do you knwo whcih file to edit? the reconfigure process is long and i dunn wanna go through all that just to chagne framebuffer to "no" :P
[05:51] <beginner> i cant browse on port 80
[05:51] <danko123> beginner: ping www.google.com
[05:51] <delire> toxicfume: how about 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Frame'
[05:51] <beginner> is pinging
[05:51] <raDeon> Question.
[05:51] <danko123> and, firewalls? routers?
[05:51] <raDeon> is ubuntu a "newb" distro
[05:51] <we2by> how do I flush my firewall rules?
[05:51] <delire> toxicfume: this is the file to edit. your X config: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:51] <dimeo> is a floppy format vfat or msdos?
[05:51] <danko123> youre a newbie distro...
[05:51] <danko123> vfat I think
[05:51] <Shuddertrix> raDeon: not exactly, in my opinion
[05:51] <raDeon> im not a distro at all
[05:51] <nalioth> beginner: changing IPs is a long way from "cant browse on port 80"
[05:52] <danko123> sure you are...
[05:52] <dimeo> radeon I wouldn't say so
[05:52] <Rebroad> we2by: pull the chain?
[05:52] <danko123> c'mon now...
[05:52] <we2by> yep
[05:52] <nalioth> raDeon: as easy as you want it to be. its debian underneath
[05:52] <we2by> c;ear all rules
[05:52] <raDeon> would you say it's good for newbies but the advanced linux user will like it
[05:52] <danko123> beginner: router? firewall?
[05:52] <reka> danko123: hehe
[05:52] <toxicfume> delire: that cat command didn't return anything
[05:52] <delire> raDeon: kind of. Mepis is possibly moreso.
[05:52] <we2by> Rebroad, any idea?
[05:52] <Shuddertrix> raDeon: hey, i am an advanced linux user, and I like it. ;)
[05:52] <Rebroad> we2by: depends on which firewall you are using
[05:52] <delire> toxicfume: ok.. well X is looking for one.
[05:52] <raDeon> i'm an advanced linux user too
[05:52] <danko123> raDeon: so so, its not good for newbies with fancy comptuers.
[05:52] <dimeo> radeon it's still a long way off from being suitable for noobs  I've spent all weekend to get it working with the basics and I'm a hacker compared to most computer users I know
[05:52] <novaflare> well radeon i a linux noob and found ubuntu to be damn easy to install
[05:52] <Bizzeh> wooo
[05:53] <Bizzeh> kubuntu boots
[05:53] <Bizzeh> now
[05:53] <Tolja> Hi
[05:53] <Bizzeh> i just hope windows works
[05:53] <raDeon> i think i will like ubuntu
[05:53] <Tolja> I'm having problems with the installer
[05:53] <dimeo> novaflare but did your wireless work, floppy work, usbmemory work, mp3's and videos play right after you installed the distro?
[05:53] <toxicfume> delire: okay..so i change "UseFBDev" "true" to "UseFBDev" "false" ?
[05:53] <Tolja> What to put in the domain name field?
[05:54] <danko123> raDeon: Its good for like standard hardware, for weird graphics cards, and sound cards, and wireless, so so...not sure how it compares to otehr linuxex, cause I only use thios one.
[05:54] <novaflare> well im not on wireless
[05:54] <Tolja> I'd like to download files from internet
[05:54] <delire> dimeo: if you want all that to work try Mepis or Xandros, though both ship alot of non-free software to acheive it.
[05:54] <novaflare> and not had a floopy for ever heh
[05:54] <delire> toxicfume: yes ;)
[05:54] <danko123> Tolja: what exactly would you like?
[05:54] <delire> toxicfume: then i think you'll be in business.
[05:54] <danko123> a link to the dowbnload of Ubuntu?
[05:54] <reka> Bizzeh: good job.  now consult ubuntuguide.org for stuff like auto-mounting your ntfs partition
[05:54] <dimeo> Xandros was a smooth install. I've heard mepis is goot too. but Xandros didn't have as many files in the apt-get
[05:54] <robert_> i installed java in my home folder, but when i go to a site that needs java, it doesnt recognize that i downloaded it
[05:54] <toxicfume> delire: okay :) and how about the Driver name? should i leave it as "ati" ? ot back to "fglrx" ?
[05:54] <dimeo> delire I agree
[05:55] <danko123> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/
[05:55] <delire> toxicfume: back to fglrx ;)
[05:55] <toxicfume> delire: okay
[05:55] <dimeo> is a floppy a vfat format?
[05:55] <Rebroad> robert_: did you create links in your plugins folder for your browser?
[05:55] <medkit> i have a question about bootloader grub
[05:55] <toxicfume> delire: startx now?
[05:55] <robert_> how i do that?
[05:55] <Rebroad> robert_: what browser are you using?
[05:55] <robert_> mozilla
[05:55] <danko123> robert_: did you follow ubuntuguide.org?
[05:55] <delire> dimeo: my girlfriend and i installed Mepis on 30 dell workstations in 4.5 hours. all worked out-of-the-box. java, video, mounting usb-storage devices et al. network shares also.. impressive.
[05:56] <robert_> it doesnt say much
[05:56] <delire> toxicfume: yes
[05:56] <reka> toxicfume: so what was the problem? :-)
[05:56] <Tolja> danko123, i'm configuring network in the installer but i don't get it to work :/
[05:56] <robert_> sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[05:56] <robert_> java -version
[05:56] <reka> robert_: close mozilla. open mozilla. :-)
[05:56] <nalioth> danko123: i'm gettin tired of ubuntuguide
[05:56] <danko123> Tolja: pppoe?
[05:56] <nalioth> danko123: i've found several screwed up things there
[05:56] <danko123> nalioth: well, for this guy, for that issue, it is the right thing.
[05:56] <delire> reka: framebuffer devices, he has none defined yet his config was told to look for one.
[05:56] <toxicfume> delire: nope, doesn't work :S
[05:56] <robert_> still doesnt work
[05:56] <Tolja> danko123, what? :)
[05:56] <delire> toxicfume: what is the error. read the logs.
[05:56] <Rebroad> robert_: what browser?
[05:57] <delire> toxicfume: you may have several errors.
[05:57] <robert_> mozilla
[05:57] <robert_> the default one
[05:57] <danko123> Tolja: your install does not get to configure the network, right, are you usign DSL, by any chance?
[05:57] <Rebroad> robert_: firefox?
[05:57] <medkit> grub resides in hd1,0
[05:57] <delire> toxicfume: also, did you 'modprobe fglrx' first?
[05:57] <robert_> oh rite
[05:57] <delire> toxicfume: you must have the driver _loaded_
[05:57] <Tolja> danko123, i'm using dsl right
[05:57] <nalioth> danko123: wish some of it worked for me
[05:57] <robert_> mozilla - firefox :-\
[05:57] <danko123> nalioth: yeah, me too.
[05:57] <danko123> :)
[05:57] <danko123> Tolja: well, taht is why dhcp wont work on install.
[05:58] <toxicfume> delire: (EE) No devices detected.
[05:58] <OLdNavY> Hi
[05:58] <danko123> once you are installed, run sudo pppoeconf and set up your DSL.
[05:58] <OLdNavY> anybody can help me incase he is the boSs?
[05:58] <toxicfume> delire: no i didn't do that first
[05:58] <medkit> grub is booting Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-k7, Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-2-k7 and windoze
[05:58] <Chambers`> anyone tried wine with winetools?  I keep getting errors saying wine.bin regedit, doesn't know the command
[05:58] <delire> toxicfume: and fglrx is loaded? check with 'lsmod | grep fglrx'
[05:58] <Rebroad> robert_: http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/faq#q2.2
[05:58] <danko123> Im off to bed, 4 real now.
[05:58] <toxicfume> delire: yes, it returns fglrx 229568 0
[05:59] <OLdNavY> Iam downloading Intel x86 live CD Waiting for it to be done 100% I wanna know how to remaster this distro ( build my own distro) based on ubuntu any body can help me ?
[05:59] <medkit> it worked perfectly since (hd2,0) - there is the windows partition - died
[05:59] <reka> toxicfume: have you rebooted?
[05:59] <danko123> hd2,0 is the third hard disk in your computer.
[05:59] <toxicfume> reka: rebooted since when?
[05:59] <medkit> right, danko123, the hdd is gone
[05:59] <reka> toxicfume: ah, nm.  if fglrx is loaded already, don't worry.
[05:59] <danko123> first partition, whereas hd0,2 would be third partition on first hd
[06:00] <medkit> now grub only boots ubuntu the 2nd time
[06:00] <toxicfume> reka: hehe okay
[06:00] <OLdNavY> Iam downloading Intel x86 live CD Waiting for it to be done 100% I wanna know how to remaster this distro ( build my own distro) based on ubuntu any body can help me ?  ?????????????????????????
[06:00] <Rebroad> robert_: trying to find you a better faq
[06:00] <delire> toxicfume: is 'radeon' and 'ati' also loaded? if so modprobe -r both of those. modprobe -r == module remove, unload
[06:00] <robert_> ok
[06:00] <robert_> i dont know where plugins directory is
[06:00] <medkit> the 1st time it just hangs at the word "boot"
[06:00] <raDeon> who calls for me
[06:00] <medkit> i use strg alt del
[06:00] <toxicfume> delire: nope, ati and radeon are not loaded
[06:00] <medkit> the system boots again, comes to grub and then it is bootin ubuntu
[06:00] <Rebroad> robert_: probably ~/.mozilla-firefox/plugins or something like that
[06:01] <Tolja> danko123, what to put in this field? http://koti.mbnet.fi/tolja/domain.jpg
[06:01] <danko123> no, its not that.
[06:01] <delire> toxicfume: is that the only EE 'error' line?
[06:01] <danko123> tolja, nothing or anything.
[06:01] <reka> danko123: night :-)
[06:01] <toxicfume> delire: yes, that is the only one
[06:01] <Tolja> My cd drive broke and i can't install anything without the internets
[06:01] <toxicfume> delire: no more EEs
[06:01] <andrewski> does anyone understand font hinting?  i can't get mine to look right unless i run with gksudo: http://img123.echo.cx/img123/7816/fontstrangeness8fa.png
[06:01] <danko123> reka, the no its not that was for the plugins.
[06:02] <delire> toxicfume: that's disappointing. should be more than that.
[06:02] <reka> danko123: i know.  you said you were going to bed twice
[06:02] <Tolja> danko123, it says "no valid mirror was configured"
[06:02] <aciDHead> has someone running a webcam with ubuntu ?
[06:02] <danko123> robert_: well, this should help you get it working: http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#jre .
[06:02] <danko123> oh, you said night, not right.
[06:02] <delire> toxicfume: when you 'modprobe fglrx' do you get any odd output?
[06:02] <reka> toxicfume: did you generate the xorg.conf file with reconfigure?
[06:02] <delire> toxicfume: complaints, warnings etc?
[06:02] <toxicfume> delire: let me try
[06:02] <robert_> thanks a lot, ill try it
[06:03] <Chambers`> whats a good cd burning software for ubuntu?  Also, what about mp3's player software?  I have a mpio mp3 player
[06:03] <danko123> tolja, did you try tolja?
[06:03] <reka> danko123: right
[06:03] <reka> :-)
[06:03] <danko123> for domain name?
[06:03] <blpharis> hey, i just installed ubuntu and the resolution is fubar'd, can anybody help me figure this out
[06:03] <blpharis> or point me to some help on the web
[06:03] <reka> blpharis: fubar'd how?
[06:03] <Rebroad> robert_: the system plugins directory for firefox is /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[06:03] <Tolja> danko123, i have no idea what to put in there
[06:03] <toxicfume> delire: nope, doesn't return anything :s
[06:03] <danko123> put in tolja
[06:03] <danko123> "tolja"
[06:03] <Rebroad> robert_: but to run the "ln -s..." command you'll need to prepend "sudo"
[06:03] <toxicfume> reka: yes i did (just chose the default selection, which is Yes i think)
[06:03] <danko123> "tolja.org"
[06:03] <blpharis> it defaults to 640x480 and going to screen resolution won't let me select anything different
[06:03] <danko123> something along those lines
[06:03] <delire> toxicfume: is this hoary? dd you upgrade from warty?
[06:04] <blpharis> when i try xorgcfg it won't start
[06:04] <robert_> ok
[06:04] <reka> toxicfume: did you backup your original xorg.conf file?
[06:04] <Tolja> "no valid mirror was configured"
[06:04] <danko123> Rebroad: did you check out the other http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#jre ?
[06:04] <thechitowncubs> What is the easiest method to create a samba share without a password?
[06:04] <LinuxJones> blpharis,  >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:04] <toxicfume> delire: yes it's hoary (how do i recheck?) and no, it's not an upgrade
[06:04] <blpharis> i get an error about fbmmx.o no symbols defined
[06:04] <danko123> Tolja: did you try both tolja and tolja.org
[06:04] <danko123> ?
[06:04] <Tolja> Yes
[06:05] <Shuddertrix> thechitowncubs: #samba
[06:05] <Tolja> Didn't work
[06:05] <toxicfume> reka: not that i remember, but i thought it autmatically backed up the original xorg.conf file (But why does that matter cause X never worked for me )
[06:05] <delire> toxicfume: i would generate a new xorg.conf. i think your current one is broken in other areas. we've fixed the framebuffer dev problem, you need to find what else is broken. your ati card will work well when you actually get into X ;)
[06:05] <danko123> why would that be giving you trouble...
[06:05] <Rebroad> danko123, robert_: ah.. http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#jre is a better one.. didn't realise there was more than one.
[06:05] <toxicfume> delire: how do i do that?
[06:05] <reka> toxicfume: what delire said, your xorg.conf file is borked.  so you never could start X even from a fresh install?
[06:05] <danko123> Rebroad: YEAH, somewhat better, sorry caps...
[06:06] <delire> toxicfume: the other option, is that you use the ati.com config generator.. want to try that?
[06:06] <toxicfume> reka: nope i couldn't
[06:06] <Rebroad> danko123: why have they made the newer version so much worse?
[06:06] <robert_> kk got it
[06:06] <blpharis> thanks for that linuxjones, i think its the vert sync not detected problem
[06:06] <robert_> thanks, ill look those over
[06:06] <danko123> ask jiyuu0.
[06:06] <Tolja> I don't have access to the install cd anymore and i can't configure the network properly :/
[06:06] <Echelon-H> can I run xmms with repeat option on?
[06:06] <danko123> he is the one that does those.
[06:06] <Echelon-H> I mean, is there any parameter to set that?
[06:06] <toxicfume> reka: nope i couldn't, i just installed it 2 days ago, and it has never ever worked so far
[06:06] <danko123> Echelon-H: what is repeat?
[06:06] <reka> toxicfume: and what is your card?
[06:06] <danko123> like, loop?
[06:06] <danko123> x700
[06:06] <jiyuu0> danko123, ask me what?
[06:06] <toxicfume> reka and delire: btw, be aware that this is a laptop i'm running ubuntu on
[06:06] <Echelon-H> danko123, yeah
[06:07] <toxicfume> reka: ati mobility radeon x700(64mb)
[06:07] <delire> toxicfume: 'fglrxconfig' and go through all the options choosing defaults.
[06:07] <Fator_Dee> toxicfume: what laptop it is?
[06:07] <tiglionabbit> rebroad: Actually I was able to get java 1.5 just fine from the restricted formats faq
[06:07] <delire> toxicfume: that card works great. i use it on my workstation.
[06:07] <Rebroad> danko123: how do I ask jiyuu0?
[06:07] <toxicfume> delire: okay
[06:07] <jiyuu0> Rebroad, i'm here
[06:07] <danko123> jiyuu0: Rebroad is wondering why your new version of java insatll on your ubuntuguide site is worse than the old 4.10 version, what is th difference.
[06:07] <toxicfume> Fator_Dee: Acer Aspire 1692WLMi
[06:07] <jiyuu0> Rebroad, what's the prob?
[06:07] <toxicfume> delire: you use the same mobility version on your workstation?
[06:08] <LinuxJones> blpharis,  it works for me :)
[06:08] <urbanfox> what package contains libz?
[06:08] <Rebroad> jiyuu0: the ubuntuguide.org seems to be much less verbose, and less useful to newbies for installing java with firefixd
[06:08] <danko123> jiyuu0: he finds the old version much better, and I se how, cause it is more down to the cli level, instead of using apt...
[06:08] <Rebroad> jiyuu0: *firefox
[06:08] <Echelon-H> danko123, got any clue?
[06:08] <jiyuu0> Rebroad, meaning u prefer to use CLI more than apt-get?
[06:08] <Rebroad> danko123: oh... does the new ubuntuguide.org work for java on firefox just as well?
[06:08] <danko123> Echelon-H: if you are talking about just putting a song to repeat, instaead of ending at the end, there is a gui button for that, in the bottom right
[06:09] <jiyuu0> Rebroad, yes it does
[06:09] <danko123> Rebroad: yeah, it does work, I think, does it?
[06:09] <danko123> yeah.
[06:09] <jiyuu0> i just updated the sources.list
[06:09] <Echelon-H> danko123, i know that, but im wondering if there is a parameter that i can perform that.
[06:09] <Rebroad> jiyuu0: as far as I could tell, robert tried the commands mentioned in the new guide, but I only have his word for that! I got it working using the 4.10 version.
[06:09] <delire> toxicfume: not the mobility..
[06:09] <Echelon-H> anyways, any of you guys know how to un-install a game that was installed from a .run file?
[06:09] <danko123> why? I dont get why you would need that, but...... man xmms may know...
[06:09] <jiyuu0> previously the java way of installing is the manual way
[06:10] <jiyuu0> now it's apt-get
[06:10] <jiyuu0> easier
[06:10] <Rebroad> robert_: you still here?
[06:10] <danko123> why do you even start xmms from terminal?
[06:10] <toxicfume> delire: but this is the mobility though..
[06:10] <Fator_Dee> Echelon-H: look into the games directory if there's a "uninstall" file
[06:10] <thechitowncubs> Can anyone confirm that on the right column where the upcoming game time and pitcher matchup on www.cubs.com is covered up for some reason (even when the video doesn't pop up), why does flash act differently in *nix than it does in win?
[06:10] <Echelon-H> Fator_Dee, k, one moment.
[06:10] <Rebroad> jiyuu0: I agree apt-get is easier. K.I.S.S, as they say
[06:10] <danko123> cause...
[06:10] <tiglionabbit> echelon-h: or read the .run script and see if it accepts parameters like -r
[06:10] <jiyuu0> K.I.S.S????
[06:10] <toxicfume> delire: okay i did fglrxconfig, but it genereated a different file, "XF86Config-4" not xorg.conf
[06:11] <delire> toxicfume: no i'm talking just about the radeon card..
[06:11] <Rebroad> jiyuu0: Keep It Simple, Stupid (KISS)
[06:11] <jiyuu0> hehe
[06:11] <reka> thechitowncubs: a guess: the site was designed for IE. rather than using correct HTML.
[06:11] <delire> toxicfume: eek..
[06:11] <sijmen> i've tried many things, but how to find out which file supplies libnss-ldap.conf? it is not yet installed for sure
[06:11] <raDeon> how can i help you delire
[06:11] <delire> raDeon: you can't you have chosen a concidental nickname
[06:11] <Echelon-H> Fator_Dee, i dont see any file like uninstall
[06:11] <toxicfume> delire: but i guess ubuntu may work well for normal x700 but maybe not the mobility x700?
[06:11] <thechitowncubs> reka: it doesn't do that on the windows firefox either
[06:11] <danko123> thechitowncubs: what exactly?
[06:12] <toxicfume> delire: what do i do now? :S I'm pretty sure XF86Config-4 is a different format from xorg.conf
[06:12] <Fator_Dee> Echelon-H: what game are you exactly trying to uninstall?
[06:12] <delire> toxicfume: it should be fine. just a moment i'll check.
[06:12] <reka> toxicfume: i think they are interchangeable, try and rename it to xorg.conf.
[06:12] <danko123> thechitowncubs: I dont see that column on the left...
[06:12] <danko123> Ill give you a screenshot, tho.
[06:12] <Rebroad> I think to make ubuntu really idiot proof, something like the wayback filesystem would be a nice addition
[06:12] <delire> toxicfume: yeah, try to rename it.. ati is still catching up with the xorg format.
[06:12] <Echelon-H> Fator_Dee, enemy territory
[06:12] <Bizzeh> hmmn
[06:12] <reka> Rebroad: wayback?
[06:13] <thechitowncubs> The video player that pops up covers up the only thing I want to see on that page, the upcoming game info... and it gets covered up by flash im assuming
[06:13] <Fator_Dee> Echelon-H: it has a uninstall file and I'm sure of it because I have uninstalled it
[06:13] <Rebroad> reka: It's supposedly supposed to make it easy to revert your drive to an older version if you screw up, but I've not tried it myself.
[06:13] <reka> delire: the fglrxconfig program should ahve outputted an xorg.conf file
[06:13] <reka> werid
[06:13] <Fator_Dee> Echelon-H: in what directory you are trying to look for it?
[06:13] <Echelon-H> Fator_Dee, I can't find it in the game dir.
[06:13] <reka> *weird
[06:13] <toxicfume> delire: okay, so i'll rename it and put it in the /etc/X11/?
[06:13] <Echelon-H> enemy territory...
[06:13] <Echelon-H> is it supposed to be in some other dir?
[06:13] <Fator_Dee> Echelon-H: the *exact* path
[06:13] <raDeon> HAHA ENEMEY TERRIOTYR
[06:14] <Echelon-H> one sec
[06:14] <Rebroad> reka: I suspect it's no where near as polished a product as GoBack for MS Windows.
[06:14] <toxicfume> delire: err, i think it's already in the same folder, i won't have to move it, but how do i rename?
[06:14] <danko123> thechitowncubs: http://www.mts.net/~danb/Screenshot-4.png .
[06:14] <reka> toxicfume: back up the old one first! then sudo mv XFree86 (or whatever) xorg.conf
[06:14] <Echelon-H> Fator_Dee, /home/echelon/enemy territory
[06:14] <Echelon-H> Fator_Dee, /home/echelon/enemy-territory
[06:14] <delire> toxicfume: use 'mv origfile targetfile'
[06:15] <toxicfume> reka: okay i'll back up..but it doesn't work anywats :(
[06:15] <Fator_Dee> Echelon-H: you asked it to install it to that directory?
[06:15] <delire> toxicfume: yes but cp (backup) the old one first as reka says ;)
[06:15] <Echelon-H> yeah, it was default.
[06:15] <reka> :-)  weird, it should have at least worked from a fresh install.
[06:15] <danko123> raDeon: enema territory...:)
[06:15] <thechitowncubs> yep, thats the problem danko :/
[06:15] <danko123> so it looks like yours?
[06:15] <thechitowncubs> where that blue box is should be upcoming game stuff
[06:15] <thechitowncubs> yep
[06:15] <danko123> oh, the blue box, yeah yeah
[06:15] <Rebroad> reka: I'm looking into writing a GoBack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goback) equivalent for Linux, but it's going to probably involve a fair bit of kernel hacking...
[06:16] <thechitowncubs> refresh and you will see what supposed to be there if you look real fast
[06:16] <delire> toxicfume: where did you get the fglrx package from by the way?
[06:16] <reka> toxicfume: normally, people run into X problems when they fiddle around or try to enable 3D.
[06:16] <toxicfume> delire and reka: okay done
[06:16] <danko123> did you hit the little arrow?
[06:16] <delire> toxicfume: startx
[06:16] <danko123> I can see video///
[06:16] <toxicfume> delire: danko123 sent it to me
[06:16] <thechitowncubs> Ya, me too
[06:16] <thechitowncubs> but thats not what i want to see
[06:16] <thechitowncubs> should I contact the webmaster?
[06:16] <toxicfume> delire: nope, won't work
[06:16] <delire> toxicfume: what did he send to you?
[06:16] <danko123> it is the newest one, tho...
[06:16] <thechitowncubs> or is it a flash/linux issue?
[06:17] <danko123> we tried sudo apt-get installing it, and it said newwest version already installed.
[06:17] <delire> toxicfume: you'll need to compile it for your system of it certainly won't work
[06:17] <reka> Rebroad: newbies don't like kernel hacking.  or did you mean kernel hacking for you?
[06:17] <delire> toxicfume: this is what i do. want to know?
[06:17] <toxicfume> delire: xorg-drver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_i386.deb
[06:17] <delire> toxicfume: ok
[06:17] <Rebroad> reka: well, hopefully the kernel changes might one day be included in the ubuntu distribution
[06:17] <danko123> thechitowncubs: yeah, it is likely that, but, still contact him:)
[06:17] <delire> toxicfume: what architecture is your computer?
[06:18] <danko123> tell him to use flash taht works everywhere....
[06:18] <novaflare> i just wish ati had better linux drivers
[06:18] <delire> novaflare: they are great now.
[06:18] <toxicfume> delire: x86 i guess? 32bit pentium m centrino 1.7ghz
[06:18] <novaflare> in windows ati linux support is only so so
[06:18] <danko123> uname -r right?
[06:18] <reka> Rebroad: it'd definitely be useful
[06:18] <delire> toxicfume: ok.. the *only* error you get is that single line now? what error?
[06:19] <toxicfume> delire: let me check the log again...one sec
[06:19] <reka> poor bugger
[06:19] <raDeon> who keeps calling me
[06:19] <delire> novaflare: they are very good now. i am a 3d graphics programmer and have gone over their new drivers closely. in some cases they out perform their windows counterparts. still buggy in a couple of areas but a massive improvement on drivers from them a year ago.