[04:26] <Skaperen> rs0832: there is a user name AND a user id NUMBER ... the number controls the actual file permissions in the kernel
[04:27] <dotblank> then you can set the group to be owned by the right users
[04:27] <rinku_kokiri> michigan
[04:27] <rinku_kokiri> not eastern seaboard
[04:27] <rinku_kokiri> but waterboard :D
[04:27] <Skaperen> UnholyTerror: no reason to make it harder ... unless it makes the user experience smoother
[04:27] <dotblank> Skaperen, well its a hack and I would advise against that
[04:27] <rs0832> Skaperen, yes i know that
[04:27] <cablop> Skaperen: and login on many of them at the same time?
[04:27] <Skaperen> dotblank: so how would you do it w/o the hack?
[04:28] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, ok,  I don't get why you need to split the /home(s), yet allow access to both?
[04:28] <Skaperen> cablop: on different instances of X, sure
[04:28] <dotblank> Skaperen, well I still think im missing the point
[04:28] <UnholyTerror> dotblank, yes...
[04:28] <cablop> me too
[04:29] <dotblank> Is this just a hack thing for geekyness sake or something practical?
[04:29] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, all the desktops will access the same /home(s)... how much smoother can it get?
[04:29] <cablop> it was possible in the past, even running the same desktop twice otr more with same user... but that's in older ubuntus
[04:29] <Skaperen> UnholyTerror: I don't need to split homes ... it was just how I choose to do it long ago ... OTOH, split homes MAY keep certain apps less confused (e.g. a KDE app, running under a Gnome choice, might see the KDE config files present and get confused)
[04:29] <cablop> nowadays this is not recommended because desktops use their own daemons and they can override what the other desktop is doing...
[04:29] <dotblank> not to mention inter user dbus....
[04:30] <dotblank> and all sorts of security stuff
[04:30] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, you're assuming...
[04:30] <rs0832> Skaperen, hmm.. i didnt know that.. can you give me an example of the uuid you are talking about?
[04:30] <cablop> and the daemosn that manage things like wireless, battery, bluetooth, disks...
[04:30] <Skaperen> UnholyTerror: I'm exploring all possible pitfalls ... that's part of what planning is
[04:31] <cablop> Skaperen, are they going to run those desktops in the same machine?
[04:31] <dotblank> I guess you could start a single x device and have different screens run different window managers.. but that would all work as the same user
[04:31] <cablop> or in remote clients?
[04:31] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, a KDE app will use it's own configs, if there is a GNOME equivalent then why couldn't it read the same config?
[04:31] <Skaperen> rs0832: uuid is not a part of that ... the uid number from /etc/passwd (also gid) are loaded into the process info by the login program (which runs as root briefly to set up the user, then switches things to be that user)
[04:31] <royale1223> What do u think of ubuntu dvd? Whats more in it?
[04:32] <daxt> guys do you know web developer tool bar which has an option to choose higher resolutions than the one you have in your monitor within the firefox browser frame ?
[04:32] <rs0832> royale1223, language packs
[04:32] <Skaperen> rs0832: the kernel uses the NUMBER ... the NAME is in the environment
[04:32] <cablop> royale1223: the alternate installer a few more packages and ore languages
[04:32] <royale1223> Language packs only?
[04:32] <UnholyTerror> daxt, I see what you're after now... dunno though.
[04:32] <royale1223> Kk
[04:32] <cablop> royale1223: not only, a few more software and an alternate installer
[04:33] <royale1223> Do u guys knw how i cud get a dvd with extra packages?
[04:33] <daxt> UnholyTorror , now you got me ,  that is the kind of functionality i am looking for Gnome
[04:33] <Skaperen> rs0832: basically, I had 2 user names in which a syscall to getuid() or geteuid() would return the same number for either
[04:33] <cablop> Skaperen: remote sessions or just local sessions?
[04:33] <daxt> UnholyTerror - won't it be a useful functionality for many apps ?
[04:33] <dotblank> Skaperen, ok. then you log into with the gdm and depending on the user provides a different wm?
[04:33] <rs0832> Skaperen, yes i know all that... well, i guess i misunderstood your first statement .. thanks anyway for the explanation :)
[04:34] <balt11t> Okay, I can NOT get my mic working
[04:34] <Skaperen> cablop: either ... but definitely different instances of X if there is concurrent login ... but note that concurrent login is NOT a need
[04:34] <balt11t> I honestly had the same problem in Arch too
[04:34] <dotblank> Skaperen, you could modify the login script before it creates the screen to set up everything on login
[04:35] <Skaperen> rs0832: basically that hack of years ago under Slackware was making to usernames, separate homes, shared UID number so files could be accessed under either user
[04:35] <cablop> Skaperen: i think you can chroot them then, or use VMs for that
[04:35] <Skaperen> Skaperen: I'm not committed to separate home directories ... if it can easily be done w/o doing that, that's better
[04:36] <dotblank> it really doesn't have to be separate users
[04:36] <Skaperen> cablop: for the container based scheme?  sure, that would be about how to do it
[04:36] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, talking to yourself now?;)
[04:36] <Doinkle> must be the eggnog
[04:36] <Skaperen> UnholyTerror: yeah, apparently :) ... stupid autocompletes
[04:37] <UnholyTerror> ;)
[04:37] <dotblank> So I got the humble indie bundle.. Anyone notice framerate issues with cortex-command?
[04:37] <cablop> Skaperen, not thinking as engineer or technician... but as designer, is the case that your users will use different desktops at the same time a very frequent scenario?
[04:37] <Skaperen> UnholyTerror: I doubt I ever get around to writing a better IRC client ... damn, there are so many of those, anyway ... sans the "better" part
[04:37] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, at least it won't cost you anything but time to figure it out.
[04:37] <ozzloy_> woops
[04:38] <Skaperen> cablop: I don't expect a need to concurrently be logged in under 2 or 3 desktop types on the same machine at the same time ... the needs is only for switching
[04:38] <cablop> Skaperen: if that's not a very common scenario, then just install the three desktops enable remote access and tell your users they must be careful while using the desktops in multiple computers|sessions at the same time
[04:39] <Skaperen> cablop: but if concurrency can work, great
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> Skaperen:  clarify your ussage needs. :)
[04:40]  * Dr_Willis is baking a cake so is missing half the conversations... good thing for history buffers.
[04:40] <Skaperen> cablop: but the thing I expect might be trouble is some Gnome app, having been run under Gnome before, now runs under KDE, and has problems because it's expecting Gnome ... and visa-versa
[04:40] <cablop> to switch in ubuntu is really easy nowadays and each user can have her own default desktop, it is not really common that somebody would use two different desktops, current;y they're so different that users are not comfortable using many of them
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> Skaperen:  running kde apps under gnome, or visa versa are rarely a issue.
[04:40] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, I haven't seen that happen.
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> Skaperen:  now a few years back.. it had somw issues.. but now a days. rarely a problem
[04:41] <Skaperen> Dr_Willis: I want users to be able to login under any desktop type: Gnome, KDE, Xfce, or any other, and have it all work as well as if it were a single desktop type machine
[04:41] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, I have GNOME, XFCE, and KDE and have not seen any interoperability issues.
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> Skaperen:  yes.. thats how it works now.. select the desktop under the Login Screen.
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> Skaperen:  so you are worring about nothing.
[04:41] <Skaperen> Dr_Willis: yes, I know the apps works OK crossed over ... BUT ... can they also work just as well when crossing back and forth within the same user?
[04:41] <cablop> Skaperen: yep, not an issue nowadays, just care to install some extra packages, like ibus-qt4 for example, because ubuntu believes ibus-gtk is enough... but this is a very specific problem
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> Skaperen:  the gnome and kde menus however WILL show the gnome and kde apps..
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> Skaperen:  mixx and match kde and gnome apps.. no issues here.
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> Skaperen:  best answer.. go DO it and see if it works
[04:43] <Skaperen> Dr_Willis: it's different if I log in under Gnome, and a Gnome app initializes itself as under Gnome ... then I logout and log back in under KDE ... THAT is much different than running that app on Kununtu where it initialized under KDE
[04:43] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, Yeah, you are doing a good job of talking yourself out of it :)
[04:43] <cablop> Skaperen, and one suggestion, you seems to face a very complex setup, maybe because your number of users, in that case i suggest you oone thing, go install a server and use thinclients for them, that reduces you the software configuration to just one computer
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> Skaperen:  its not really an issue.
[04:43] <Skaperen> Dr_Willis: yes, that is the answer (go do it) ... if no one else has done it yet to share the expierence ... I'm checking first
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> Skaperen:  if a gnome app needs some gnome service going.. it will start them.. same for kde apps.
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> Skaperen:  im runnign kde and gnome here.. i log into eitehr one.. never had issues.
[04:43] <Skaperen> UnholyTerror: oh ... I didn't realize that :)
[04:44] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, A program doesn't initialize itself as GNOME or KDE, it's the libraries they use.
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> I always run k3b on gnome all the time..  and on KDE i normally run 'terminator' all the time. or gimp
[04:44] <cablop> Skaperen, rarely an issue, few people move from one desktop to another, for them create a second account able to read write what the other account can, just that
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> Skaperen:  now say 5 yrs ago.. there WOULD have been some issues to watch out for. but now a days.. not any problems that vie seen
[04:45] <Skaperen> cablop: basically, I'm giving users a choice of desktop ... but they always ask "which is better" ... I want to answer "try them all and judge for yourself" ... without the having tried causing issues
[04:45] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, You are thinking gedit is going to complain about being run while in KDE...
[04:45] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, You are trying to reinvent the wheel...
[04:46] <cablop> skaperen, don't worry, people that is exploring desktops barely start to configure things sooooo deeply enough to have issues moving from one to another that cannot be solved
[04:46] <Skaperen> user tries Gnome ... then tries KDE ... prefers KDE ... but some KDE app doesn't quite work right because it was "born" (first run for that user) under Gnome ... that's what I want to be sure cannot happen for any app of any desktop type
[04:46] <Doinkle> you underestimate newbies :)
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> Only issue ive seen with using kde and gnome both (or with xfce) is that some times like xfce and gnome are actually 'closely related' so they use the same settings - so changeing a setting in gnome. can also change it in xfce.
[04:47] <Barridus> strange thing seems to have happened.  my password does not seem to work in terminal, but does in gnome apps (like synaptic)
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> Skaperen:  its not a problem.
[04:47] <Skaperen> UnholyTerror: yes, I prefer rounder wheels :)
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> Skaperen:  woorse case.. you remove the users gnome settings totally...
[04:47] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, People who use OpenOffice under GNOME will still use OpenOffice under KDE... it won't do anything different.
[04:47] <rs0832> Barridus, for sudo?
[04:48] <Barridus> rs0832, yes
[04:48] <cablop> Doinkle: not underestimating... just pointing newbies will cause more problems in other related areas
[04:48] <Barridus> sudo commands keep kicking my password out, but it works fine in gksu stuff like synaptic
[04:48] <rs0832> Barridus, does not authenticate?
[04:48] <Skaperen> UnholyTerror,Dr_Willis: so basically ... the wheel is about as round as it gets (?)
[04:48] <Barridus> [sudo] password for ryan:
[04:48] <Barridus> Sorry, try again.
[04:49] <cablop> how can i test the surface of a disk in ubuntu?
[04:49] <Barridus> can't do things like mount or whatever else i normally do in terminal
[04:49] <xxiao> a dumb question, 64-bit ubuntu 10.04.1 is not the recommended release, does tthat mean it's less reliable comparing to 32-bit?
[04:49] <Skaperen> cablop: write on it?
[04:49] <cablop> i think i have problems with a disk or maybe the IDE cable, but dunno how to test what is
[04:49] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, It's as close to round as you can get.
[04:50] <Skaperen> cablop: you have done the usual "remove and re-install cable connections" ?
[04:50] <UnholyTerror> cablop, what is the problem?
[04:50] <Barridus> xxiao, 10.04.1 is the long term support ubuntu, so technically it should be the *most* reliable.  perhaps the issue is that 64-bit typically doesn't have as many things for it as 32
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> xxiao:  its idiot proofing in the 'web sites' - 32bit will run on anything.. if you know enought to ask about 32 or 64bit.. then you can handle 64bit
[04:50] <[thor]> cablop: System > Administration > Disk Utility
[04:50] <cablop> i tried many times to format partitions but the installer says some block errors or device errors or i/o errors came from nowhere
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> xxiao:  if you have 64bit hardware. i reccomend using 64bit os.
[04:51] <cablop> now i see the disk has "no" smart support, but afaik it has!
[04:51] <xxiao> Dr_Willis: i used to have 32-bit, but now android needs 64-bit host OS
[04:51] <UnholyTerror> cablop, System->Administration->Disk Utility has alot of info for you.
[04:51] <Skaperen> the more you idiot-proof anything, the more the idiots adapt
[04:51] <xxiao> Dr_Willis: that means I need upgrade, but...ubuntu 64bit has amd64 on the name, hope it has no issues with intel 64bit chips(core2duo)
[04:51] <cablop> UnholyTerror: yep, i went there, but for my surprise it says no smart info available... o.O
[04:51] <collin_> 64 bit is actually the real recommended version. Ubuntu eventually wants to get everyone running it. Its just alot of older computers dont have processors capible of running it
[04:52] <cablop> ah! sigh, i thing the disk is connected through a cable that has one wire broken, haha
[04:52] <UnholyTerror> cablop, is it set in BIOS?
[04:52] <Skaperen> collin_: like netbooks
[04:52] <Barridus> Skaperen, very astute :)
[04:52] <cablop> UnholyTerror: yes it is set there
[04:52]  * Skaperen would love to run 64-bit on his ASUS EeePCs
[04:53] <cablop> Skaperen: if tyou want a system for newbies then please, don't give them Kubuntu as an option
[04:53] <Barridus> does it normally take a few minutes to change your password in the user settings?
[04:53] <cablop> it has TOOOOOOOOOOO many options for them to deal with
[04:53] <collin_> Skaperen ,lol you can actually do alot with that little computer though. My bro uses it and  gets some pretty good fps on his hard to run games
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> !manual
[04:54] <Skaperen> cablop: they are not actually newbies ... but they may be new to the latest version of Gnome, KDE, etc ... and most will already have a preference, anyway (why I need to put them all in)
[04:54] <rats_> cablop: if there new to linux how will they know there is too many options in KDE
[04:54] <Barridus> i tried to change my password to correct some weirdness i was having with it in sudo, the user settings change password window is grey and gives the "wait" mouse cursor.  has something gone wrong?
[04:55] <Skaperen> cablop: and even I have switched around before ... KDE, then Gnome, then KDE, now back to Gnome
[04:55] <Hilikus> how do i specify in ufw to allow connections to port 6543 to only two specific ips in one rule?
[04:55] <Skaperen> cablop: with some others before that, even
[04:55] <nadja> BIOS is good, i386 is faster, and x64 is better, and ASUS is also good from experience. LXDE and JVM are simple GUI options. (I can not keep up with everyone....)
[04:55] <cablop> rats_: i tested at home, they prefered gnome and ask me for help... KDE settings are very complex for them, they say it has more to configure than windows and they come lost so fast
[04:55] <Barridus> should i force quit this change password dialog?
[04:56] <Barridus> sweating bullets here...
[04:56] <rs0832> Barridus, yes force quit it.. i don;t think you have a choice
[04:56] <Skaperen> cablop: we're going to be hiring programmers faster and faster at work over the next couple years, and the boss is wanting to have computers pre-installed for them (current method is give new people an empty machine and some ISOs)
[04:56] <collin_> Well, when dealing with faulty drivers, I hate Ubuntu.
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> Skaperen:  change password via terminal -> sudo passwd username
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> oh wait wrong nick. :)
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> Barridus: :  change password via terminal -> sudo passwd username
[04:57] <Skaperen> Dr_Willis: heh ... just as long as username != root
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> uswe r00t :)
[04:57] <Barridus> i'll try, for some reason sudo kicks back my password
[04:57] <Barridus> but it works in gnome apps when it asks
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> Skaperen:  ages ago there was a bug in the installer tha tlet people name the first user 'root'
[04:58] <rs0832> Barridus, try creating a new user with priv's and then sudo in that users a/c
[04:58] <Barridus> nope, kicked it back
[04:58] <Skaperen> Dr_Willis: I remember that ... I didn't call it a bug back then :)
[04:58] <Skaperen> it was a feature
[04:58] <Barridus> rs0832, yeah i was considering that option
[04:58] <Barridus> i'll try this one last time and see
[04:59] <cablop> Skaperen: mmmmm curious thing... well, the server with thin clients was nice when we used that at university, we could use either one desktop or the other, and we were able to sit at any computer each day keeping same settings, but the hard part is to secure the server
[04:59] <n0a1ias> I'm getting a Droid phone, and on Ubuntu, chould there be any problems when trying to import and export data?
[04:59] <Skaperen> cablop: I may also do some "deskless" (really has a disk, but not run the OS on it) network booting, too
[05:00] <Skaperen> s/deskless/diskless/ :)
[05:00] <cablop> n0a1ias: dunno, but some people got dissapointed because you can't barely find a pure droid phone, licese allowed them tyo close the code and you got in a jailed phone.... try a nokia n900 instead :P :)
[05:01] <rigved> if i wanted to install Debian Sqeeze and Ubuntu Lucid on the same machine, then which partitions can be shared by them? /boot, /home, /tmp, /usr, /srv, /opt, /usr/local
[05:01] <Barridus> ok that failed, trying that option rs0832
[05:01] <cablop> Skaperen: i love that config... you can perform some daily or weekly backups of it for just one machien, but you really do need a powerful server for that if you were planning to use that for development
[05:01]  * Skaperen would prefer to get a phone with no OS already on it, and install the OS he builds first (as opposed to replacing an OS or even hacking the bootloaders)
[05:01] <collin_> rigved Im sure home can be shared
[05:02] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, I'm installing xubuntu on one of my vm's right now... gonna check something out.
[05:02] <cablop> Skaperen: a n900 has linux on it, no reason to build it from scratch, justr use and tweak it
[05:02] <rigved> collin_: ok. thanx. what about the other partitions?
[05:02] <Skaperen> cablop: my idea was to just run the diskless machines with everything in RAM ... so no NFS mount to the server to run the OS (users might have that for their home directories for some reason)
[05:03] <Skaperen> cablop: all our new desktop machines will be at least 12GB RAM ... and 24GB will not be an issue to get
[05:04] <Skaperen> cablop: should be able to run from RAM
[05:04] <collin_> rigved , you can share your swap , but I wouldn't advise sharing anything else
[05:04] <cablop> Skaperen: it just has a very big aspect to care for... network connectivity, you need to ensure network never fails
[05:04] <cablop> and electricity
[05:04] <rigved> collin_: ok. thanx again. :)
[05:04] <Skaperen> cablop: one problem is a few users prefer to run network connectivity via wireless ... so they can't do netboot
[05:05] <cablop> it is taking more than 15 minutes for my old machine to format a 160GB disk as ext3... i think is there something working really bad with the disk or the cable tied to it...
[05:05] <collin_> rigved , actually, you should be fine with sharing /usr/local
[05:06] <rooks> i want some firewall/routing gui, maybe ncurses or web one, any ideas?
[05:06] <rooks> something that is on commercial home routers
[05:06] <cablop> Skaperen afaik thinclients (minimal install on local disk) would work over wireless... we were trying that config for somebody before... but he was concerned about data security rather than users comfort, lol
[05:06] <Skaperen> cablop: I think filesystem design could be improved ... it should be enough to write only the superblocks ... and include in them the boundaries of initialized inode tables, or fully dynamic inodes
[05:06] <rooks> with port forwarding and browser gui
[05:07] <rigved> collin_: ok. so swap, /home and /usr/local. got it.
[05:07] <raymondjtoth2> hi any one willing to help me with somthing
[05:07] <raymondjtoth2> ?
[05:07] <Doinkle> rooks,  smoothwall
[05:07]  * cablop would love to find a tag based filesystem....
[05:07] <rigved> !ask | raymondjtoth2
[05:07] <raymondjtoth2> any one good with setting up a dns server/
[05:08] <rooks> Doinkle, thanks
[05:08] <raymondjtoth2> any one good with setting there own dns server up?
[05:08] <Skaperen> raymondjtoth2: what help do you need with dns?
[05:08]  * Skaperen has been setting up DNS since around 1990
[05:09] <raymondjtoth2> i need to do this skaperen Most Unix systems put the BIND configuration file at either /etc/named.conf (as most Linux distributions do) or ar /var/named/named.conf (as the bind8 port installer for OpenBSD does).
[05:09] <raymondjtoth2> In the named.conf (or one of its includes), find a block that looks like this: m
[05:09] <raymondjtoth2> were do i finde it and how i do it right i got what need
[05:09] <triune> anyone kno if there are any fun/chat/party channels on freenode?
[05:09] <Doinkle> do channel list and see
[05:10] <raymondjtoth2> skaperen understand
[05:10] <rooks> !firewall
[05:10] <triune> using qwebirc
[05:10] <Skaperen> raymondjtoth2: assuming you are doing this on Ubuntu, it's best to leave it where the Ubuntu package places it ... but if you must change something, symlinks are your friend
[05:10] <cablop> Skaperen: from that time!!! o.O oh my...
[05:10] <raymondjtoth2> i need to change it to point to dig . NS @ns0.opennic.glue > root.cache
[05:10] <triune> client doesnt have a channel list feature
[05:10] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, downloading xub and kde desktops for some quick testing.
[05:10] <raymondjtoth2> skapen its asking me to change it to dig . NS @ns0.opennic.glue > root.cache were i put it?
[05:11] <Skaperen> cablop: I've been programming since 1972 !!!
[05:11] <cablop> triune there's a command for that, but don't do it on a channel, use it on the server view or something
[05:11] <raymondjtoth2> i wantg to added it ti right spot it needs it
[05:11] <raymondjtoth2> i dont want to move it just edit it
[05:11] <cablop> Skaperen: OH MY...!!!!
[05:11] <royale1223> Since 1972!
[05:11] <royale1223> Gawd
[05:11] <cablop> you were making holes on cards then!!
[05:11] <Skaperen> raymondjtoth2: I don't understand what you are trying to do
[05:12] <chris_osx> pdp-8 or what?
[05:12] <triune> cablop: any idea what the actual command is? :)
[05:12] <royale1223> What kinda computer were u using in 72?
[05:12] <AkhlD> Hii
[05:12] <cablop> i forgot it... triune... :S
[05:12] <Skaperen> cablop: indeed ... and hacking them to do lower case letters on batch job names to disable the operator ability to cancel the jobs :)
[05:12] <Doinkle> Good window-pane back in '72 eh Skaperen?
[05:12] <AkhlD> is there any jpeg to txt converter in ubuntu ?
[05:12] <triune> doh..
[05:12] <cablop> Skaperen: LOOOOLLL
[05:12] <triune> google here i come
[05:12] <raymondjtoth2> !text
[05:12] <raymondjtoth2> were i post my text
[05:12] <raymondjtoth2> at
[05:13] <breadcrumb> !pastebin
[05:13] <intrader> Following up with 'fan always on problem'. I was hoping that adding acpi_osi=Linux to GRUB CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT. But no luck. Anyone help please. Googleing show many people having the problem with 10.10
[05:13] <Skaperen> cablop: mainframe operator consoles were uni-case ... keyboard encoded only upper case ... display showed upper for either case
[05:14] <cablop> i bet skaperen will like the hitler reviews windows 1945 meme on youtube, xD
[05:14] <Skaperen> cablop: that being in EBCDIC in the machine, Hollerith on the cards
[05:14]  * Doinkle started programming in 1979
[05:14] <triune> cablop: its just /list
[05:14] <triune> :)
[05:14] <raymondjtoth2> skaperen read this http://paste.ubuntu.com/547640/
[05:14] <bazhang> !ot | Skaperen cablop
[05:14] <cablop> bazhang, you are taking more lines than my comment with that
[05:15] <bazhang> cablop, take it elsewhere thanks
[05:15] <cablop> :P
[05:15] <Skaperen> raymondjtoth2: are you trying to set up a TLD or root server?
[05:15] <White-Horse> Merry X-mas all Have a small prom. here for some reason everything I minimized (Firefox BeachBit vlc Audaicous etc...) closes and I can not get them back some help please with this ?
[05:15] <raymondjtoth2> skaperen i pointimg to it on my dns server i making here
[05:15] <raymondjtoth2> tell me to do this
[05:15] <raymondjtoth2> not sure what want
[05:16] <cablop> White-Horse: try changing your window-manager or window-decorator, just to discard an issue on them
[05:16] <Skaperen> raymondjtoth2: I'm not sure you are getting the right instructions, because I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish
[05:16] <raymondjtoth2> skaperen what recamend reading this
[05:16] <White-Horse> cablop I will try that now brb
[05:16] <raymondjtoth2> i making my own dns suing opennic server on my own dns server
[05:17] <Skaperen> raymondjtoth2: how different do you want your DNS server to be compared to an ordinary DNS server?  What is your need for OpenNIC?
[05:17] <raymondjtoth2> it tell me its for tdl skapern
[05:17] <raymondjtoth2> its my tdl
[05:17] <raymondjtoth2> were i put it
[05:17] <White-Horse> cablop nope same thing happens ...
[05:17] <raymondjtoth2> tlds
[05:18] <Skaperen> raymondjtoth2: I have no experience with OpenNIC ... I suspect you need OpenNIC specific help
[05:18] <cablop> brb, going to take that cable off that computer.... i barely believe the ubuntu cerom is failing that bad... any known issue on the 10.10 installer?
[05:18] <raymondjtoth2> it tell me to configer for tlds
[05:18] <raymondjtoth2> were i add what there telling me
[05:18] <raymondjtoth2> skaperen
[05:18] <Barridus> rs0832, heh i created a 2nd admin account, but it wouldn't let me log in.  so i re-logged in as myself and now my password magically works again.  *shrug*  heh, thanks for the advice
[05:19] <raymondjtoth2> skaperen its the tld's
[05:19]  * Barridus hums the twilight zone music
[05:19] <Skaperen> raymondjtoth2: a TLDs is just like any other domain ... just usually larger
[05:20] <rs0832> Barridus, :) sure no prob
[05:20] <raymondjtoth2> skaperen were i add the zone to if got one
[05:20] <rs0832> Barridus, creating the user may have overwritten and fixed any damaged configs
[05:20] <Skaperen> raymondjtoth2: I have dabbled in doing TLDs ... I added the TLD just like another domain ... and it worked fine
[05:21] <raymondjtoth2> skaperen i need to add this This specifies a hint zone named '.', the root zone. Hints specified in the root.cache file are used to locate root servers and perform recursive queries. The root.cache file may also be called named.cache.
[05:21] <Skaperen> raymondjtoth2: you might try the #dns channel ... hang out there a while as it is frequently idle
[05:22] <cablop> White-Horse: using compiz? install compiz fusuion icon and use it to fast change between window-managers and test that
[05:22] <White-Horse> cablop ok I will try that brb
[05:22] <cablop> White-Horse: i had that issue once, but it just dissapeared by itself
[05:22] <raymondjtoth2> skaperen no one there
[05:22] <White-Horse> cablop ok
[05:23] <cablop> White-Horse: if you installed a new driver, changed video driver, updated the system upgraded the system, maybe you just need to restart the whole system
[05:23] <Skaperen> raymondjtoth2: then you own the channel :)
[05:23] <White-Horse> cablop no I didn't do anything it just started about 2 days ago
[05:24] <raymondjtoth2> any one good with setting up there own dns on ubuntu
[05:24] <raymondjtoth2> dns server i mean
[05:25] <karthick87> !panels
[05:25] <Skaperen> raymondjtoth2: you should be making your initial question NOT for WHO can help, but ask the specific question ... then people who see a question they know an answer to can help
[05:25] <cablop> White-Horse: mmm if the window-manager|decorator thing doesn't work, then try booting with an older kernel and checking
[05:26]  * Skaperen is going afk now ... zzzzzzz
[05:26] <White-Horse> cablop Compiz is installed and working but does not fix the prom. and the only kernel i have is the newest one
[05:26] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, ok, so just double-checked for you. login screen remembers which desktops users last used ans switches between them automatically.
[05:26] <White-Horse> os[Linux 2.6.32-26-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "lucid" 10.04] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T6600  @ 2.20GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.20GHz] mem[Physical: 2.9GB, 90.8% free] disk[Total: 569.7GB, 82.6% free] video[Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[05:27] <Skaperen> UnholyTerror: that's good ... the right way to do it
[05:27] <sayed> Hello!
[05:27] <Skaperen> UnholyTerror: thanks for the help and ideas!
[05:28] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, tested with GNOME and KDE
[05:29] <White-Horse> cablop I should also tell you that vlc shows a broken icon every time I started
[05:30] <cablop> White-Horse: mmm try changing the theme, and also try testing another user on the machine, if thereś no user then use the default guest or create another one, if the issue happens to them then the problem is system-side if not then check current settings for your user
[05:32] <Haptic> so I have these bluetooth headphones and a dongle. dongle works with ubuntu, finds the headphones fine and they are connected and when I search for them via terminal it sees them. audio doesn't seem to play through them. any solutions?
[05:32] <White-Horse> cablop I will try with the default guess acct.
[05:32] <White-Horse> thank you
[05:33] <royale1223> !compiz
[05:33] <cablop> White-Horse: a way to check what the issue is is launch the app from a terminal and check the error messages... i detected in the past some apps won't load for me just cause i installed a third party theme
[05:33] <Haptic> he left
[05:34] <Nick_> whos there
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> Nick_:  Knock Knock?
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:34] <ridin> orange
[05:34] <Guest34793> come in
[05:35] <XVampireX> anyone here knows anything about hdmi with ubuntu??
[05:35] <UnholyTerror> Skaperen, yep works across G,K,X
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> XVampireX:  depends on the issue.. it should just 'work' for video.
[05:35] <Haptic> anyone know a solution to my bluetooth headphone issue?
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> XVampireX:  audio ocer hdmi - can be an issue.
[05:36] <XVampireX> Dr_Willis,  it doesn't work for video at all
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> Haptic:  for my BT headset. i had to select the device as the output in the pulse audio cnfig tools.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> XVampireX:  and your chipset is? and your monitor is a monitor or tv? whats it doing exactly.
[05:37] <family> Q: How do you undo "live video=ofonly" it seems that since i have installed my ubuntu on my mac and entered that into the yaboot screen everything becomes blue tinted whenever i sign on. when i sign out it returns to normal.
[05:37] <Haptic> and thats under system>pref.>sound. correct? (ubuntu 10.10)
[05:37] <XVampireX> I am connecting it to a plasma monitor, i've got intel gma915 I think
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> family:  you mean to say the GDM screen has  the correct colors.. but the user does not?
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> XVampireX:  is this a laptop or desktop?
[05:37] <family> By gdm i believe you mean the sign in screen?
[05:38] <XVampireX> laptop
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> family:  GDM is the 'login manager' the screen where you LOGIN at.
[05:38] <family> yes
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> XVampireX:  you have tried the special FN keys on the laptop to enable the external monitor> also the Monitors dialog box may have a option to enable it.
[05:38] <kl1k> any raid5 specialists out there? I've moved a software raid5 volume from opensuse to ubuntu and am having problems.
[05:38] <family> it has normal colors. but when i sign in it all changes and everything from menues  bg everything is blue tinted
[05:39] <XVampireX> On windows 7 it works if I'm connecting it to hdmi, through a specific resolution, but only if both monitor and plasma are the same resolution, and as far as I know also something like 59hz I think
[05:39] <XVampireX> I didn't try the FN keys
[05:39] <Xintruder> I really want to make an awsome GUI to show off with against apple/windows users. advise?
[05:39] <XVampireX> the plasma says when I try any resolution that it's checking for signal and then nothing.... blue screen
[05:39] <Haptic> duh. fix'd. thank you for the help
[05:40] <sync3times> hello
[05:41] <family> although it was normal when i ran the test cd. but when i tried to install it wouldnt work. so i tried inputting live video=ofonly at the yaboot screen and then i could install but its all blue tinted. is there a way to undo the "live video=ofonly" command thingy?
[05:41] <XVampireX> Dr_Willis, monitors dialog doesn't provide anything with hdmi
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Xintruder:  make? as in a desktop? KDE has all the fancy features.. gnome and compiz can do some neat tricks.. depends on your needs,
[05:42] <Xintruder> has compizfusion changed since 2005?
[05:42] <XVampireX> I don't think the FN+F5 would do anything though :P
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> XVampireX:  for my laptop+ intel. it wouldent even turn on the monitor untill i hit the fn keys. then i could tweak it with the Monitors settings tool,.
[05:42] <XVampireX> hmm
[05:42] <XVampireX> Well I'm going to try then
[05:43] <family> any thoughts
[05:43] <family> ?
[05:43] <XVampireX> it's weird in windows it works ok
[05:45] <cablop> Xintruder: a lot, i guess
[05:45] <family> Q: How do you undo "live video=ofonly" it seems that since i have installed my ubuntu on my mac and entered that into the yaboot screen everything becomes blue tinted whenever i sign on. when i sign out it returns to normal. (ubuntu 10.10 mac ppc)
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> XVampireX:  the fn+ stuff - went through several modes. Internal only, external only, both,   (i recall)
[05:46] <XVampireX> fn+F5 doesn't work
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> XVampireX:  with out hitting the fn+ key the monitors tool wouldent see the extarnal display. because the bios had it off..
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> Hit it a few more times.
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> Its possible its not supported with that makd/model laptop. you may need to check forums for the exact laptop you have.
[05:47] <XVampireX> I've got a toshiba satellite
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> family:  check the boot files/configs to see if its using the video= option by default.
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> family:  i dont use yaboot. or ppc any more. so thats about all i can suggest.
[05:48] <family> Okay, where can i find that?
[05:48] <family> (sorry im new)
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> check the yaboot docs.. I dont use it.
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> !yaboot
[05:48] <kl1k> can anyone help me with a raid5 disk issue?
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> ppc and linux - has always had to many issues for me.
[05:48] <family> in the terminal?
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> family:  You could try man yaboot.. You could also see if the system -> monitors tool or some other tools in there has some tools to tweak the colors..
[05:49] <rigved> !info yaboot
[05:49] <family> no ihave searched up and down for settings to tweak.
[05:50] <spicemaster> hello i need torrent file newest live cd of ubuntu but i can't get it on net :(
[05:50] <rigved> !find yaboot
[05:50] <spicemaster> rigved, where are the torrent file ?
[05:50] <cveazey> Does anyone know how to get an iPad to mount to ubuntu 10.10??
[05:50] <red3kic> !torrents | spicemaster
[05:51] <spicemaster> red3kic, thanks man is a live cd na ?
[05:51] <needlez> can anyone help me setup my computer to use usplash or xsplash instead of plymouth. I've already got plymouth to not run and for it to run Grub2 as my load up screen but I'd like to see a usplash / xsplash picture instead of words when booting to gdm login screen. Thanks for any help
[05:51] <cveazey> My iPhone will mount to my system,  but my iPad will not!!
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> needlez:  if they are in the repos.. just install them.. but they may not work.
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> !info usplash
[05:52] <red3kic> spicemaster:  /desktop/ -- That's LiveCD.
[05:52] <White-Horse> cablop I remember now what I did I saw alittle black line thing near the bottom left conner right after show desktop icon I removed it didn't know what it was for lol do you know what was there ?
[05:53] <spicemaster> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/maverick/desktop/ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent <--- this is live cd torrent i am right ? red3kic
[05:53] <needlez> That doesnt work, I have usplash and xsplash packages installed an it no xsplash or usplash displays... Im running Ubuntu 10.10
[05:53] <red3kic> spicemaster:  Correct. If you want amd64, then you should get amd64.iso.torrent
[05:53] <White-Horse> cablop Because the Guest acct. had that line and everything I min. went to the bottom just like it should
[05:54] <spicemaster> red3kic, ok thanks a lot :)
[05:54] <cablop> White-Horse: LOL i expect for you to didn removed the qwindow manager! then we were running in circles, LOL
[05:54] <cablop> White-Horse: give me a sec
[05:54] <infid> in ubuntu 10.04, i removed the 'shutdown' icon from the panel on accident but now i want it back, however the 'add to panel' stuff only seems to show a thing called 'shutdown' but it looks different and is always red, rather than only turning red when a restart is required. how do i get it back?
[05:54] <White-Horse> cablop thank you
[05:55] <cablop> right clic on the panel and then  select add to panel and select something called window list
[05:55] <needlez> infid: you need to add to panel Indicator Applet Session
[05:55] <needlez> thats the one you need
[05:55] <cablop> White-Horse: right clic on the panel and then  select add to panel and select something called window list
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel
[05:55] <fourcolors> Hi, Merry Christmas everyone!
[05:56] <cablop> merry xmas fourcolors
[05:56] <needlez> Anyone??
[05:56] <ish_> hey can anyone explain to me the Decimal64 floating point format?
[05:56] <fourcolors> I was wondering if anyone here could help me understand creating a custom ubuntu live cd?
[05:56] <cablop> White-Horse: and tell me if that solve your issue
[05:57] <stefano> hi anyone experienced with setting up LAMP on ubuntu?
[05:57] <infid> thanks needlez
[05:57] <White-Horse> cablop Perfect! Thank-You cablop so much teach me to remove something i don't know what it does lol
[05:57] <fourcolors> is there a gui tool to do this?
[05:57] <rigved> !uck | fourcolors
[05:57] <needlez> infid: your welcome
[05:57] <stefano> my relative links are not working in php
[05:57] <fourcolors> rigved: thanks
[05:57] <stefano> php work s fine though
[05:57] <rigved> fourcolors: it's GUI
[05:57] <White-Horse> cablop works fine now everything back to normal
[05:57] <fourcolors> rigved: yay!
[05:57]  * iKitsune hates xorg.conf.d
[05:57] <rigved> fourcolors: you are welcome
[05:57] <iKitsune> Is there a way to make 10.10 use a normal xorg.conf?
[05:58] <cablop> White-Horse: LOL LOL LOL well, then, ghet the lesson... in computers sometimes a big issue is just a little very very little detail on the whole scenario
[05:58] <needlez> can anyone help me setup my computer to use usplash or xsplash instead of plymouth. I've already got plymouth to not run and for it to run Grub2 as my load up screen but I'd like to see a usplash / xsplash picture instead of words when booting to gdm login screen. Thanks for any help
[05:58] <rigved> iKitsune: normal as in the one used by failsafex mode?
[05:58] <White-Horse> cablop Yes Thank-You Happy Holidays Everyone !
[05:58] <iKitsune> rigved: normal as in the kind xorg/X11 used since the dawn of time
[05:59] <stefano> php relative links not working. anyone have an idea why?
[05:59] <cablop> White-Horse: i suggest you to add the window selector too, you can pick windows in other desktops with it and it is just one icon on the panel, add it
[05:59] <cablop> White-Horse: and happy holidays, man
[05:59] <chris_osx> how can i find out, which cpu and os i use when i am at the terminal? i remember there was a two letter command
[05:59] <White-Horse>  ok thanks i will try that
[05:59] <rigved> iKitsune: fail safe X mode is just about that. copy the xorg.conf.failsafe to xorg.conf
[05:59] <quiescens> xorg.conf is still used if it exists
[05:59]  * iKitsune is trying to get an Elo serial touchscreen working with 10.10 and can't grok the xorg.conf.d way of doing things.
[06:00] <iKitsune> And none of the howtos I've seen cover serial, just USB
[06:00] <White-Horse> have a great night/day everyone and thank yous all for the time you all put in this channel
[06:00] <needlez> anyone??
[06:00] <quiescens> it just doesn't exist by default to my knowledge
[06:01] <royale1223> !bash
[06:01] <royale1223> !fuck
[06:02] <cablop> needlez: afaik you can't plymouth isn't just a splash, tha6t's what i've been told, it just manages many other hardware aspects, dunno if you can get another spalsh on top of it... i suggest for you to switch the splash thing, google for it, about changing splash screens for plymouth
[06:02] <KB1JWQ> royale1223: Watch your language.
[06:02] <rigved> !language | royale1223
[06:02] <royale1223> Thot it wud go as a comment for ubota.. Sorry guys
[06:03] <cablop> just don't do that again, lol
[06:03] <iKitsune> So am I the only one that's ever tried to pair a serial Elo touchscreen and 10.10 or what?  x3
[06:03] <royale1223> I wont.. Pinkie promise
[06:03] <needlez> cablop: as for plymouth i couldnt change the screens so I nuked it... plymouth no longer exists on my system, and I just have Grub2
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> i just remove the options in /etc/default/grub and turn off plymouth. i dont bother removeing it.
[06:04] <cablop> needlez: you just need to remove splash from /etc/default/grub...
[06:06] <needlez> what I did was remove the things from synaptic except plymouth and libplymouth and no plymouth wont start at all and i tried to reinstall it but no luck so no plymouth what so ever on my machine, so kno Im just using grub2... my thing is I would like a display or background to show instead of text before the gdm login screen loads, like when the computer has to do drive checks or anything like that
[06:07] <needlez> any ideas??
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> Given how fast my system boots.. i wouldent see any such screen then for more then perhaps 2-5 sec.. so really not an issue. I like the normal text messages scrolling by.
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> needlez:  theres usplash in the repos still - could try it i guess..
[06:09] <cablop> needlez: or nstall ubuntu-desktop and it will install plymouth again
[06:09] <needlez> I have installed it  thru synaptic and nothing happens, ok i might try that
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> Im suprised you were able to remove plymouth without removeing/breaking other stuff really.
[06:10] <cablop> me too
[06:10] <needlez> yea, well its not removed removed, what happend was I was messing around with plymouth manager and it disappeared and now all i have is grub2
[06:11] <bopotogogee> hi everyone
[06:11] <skpl> what is plymouth?
[06:11] <cablop> needlez: grub2 and plymouth are different things and they coexist in a default install
[06:11] <cablop> skpl: one of the things that drives you crazy after moving from ubuntu 9.x or rearlier
[06:11] <cablop> xD
[06:11] <chid> how would I get the address of the current browser page? for a script
[06:12] <needlez> yes i kno that, but I have no plymouth purple screen just text before the gdm login... and grub2 loads up
[06:12] <cablop> something like a hardware loader and other low level Os stuff
[06:12] <needlez> brb gonna do a restart to see if plymouth came back
[06:12] <cablop> chid, better to ask that in #javascript
[06:13] <cablop> chid sorry it is ##javascript
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> skpl:  its the program that does the fancy (useless?) 'Ubuntu ...' animation right befor you see the GDM screen
[06:14] <needlez> back and nothing
[06:14] <needlez> still no plymouth even after reinstalling ubuntu-desktop
[06:14] <chid> cablop, I'm looking for a scripting way, say from bash, to retrieve that
[06:15] <cablop> Dr_Willis: afaik it does more than that... but... well... as how is Ubuntu nowadays this could be just a fancy "reason"
[06:15] <chid> So I'm looking for the program or the method to retrieve :)
[06:15] <needlez> I dont mind to much the texting but just wondering if you can get plymouth back after its been killed
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  it dosent really 'add' any more functions. but it does have to dosplay the 'disk checking, and some other messages' but really just normal text screen booting does that as well.
[06:15] <cablop> chid, maybe a plughin for your browser
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> needlez:  sounds like your plymouth tweaking tool may of disavled somthing/setsome configs. Or set the default theme to be the text one..
[06:16] <cablop> Dr_Willis: i have been taught a lie T_T
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  ive never seen anyont state that it really 'does' more then what the normal text message type screen does.
[06:16] <cablop> i see
[06:17] <UBuxuBU> if i use wubi, and i install avast in ubuntu and clamtk, can i cean up an infection in windows while i am in ubuntu?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> it has to 'do' more to do its fancy animations. :) but thats not 'doing' anything  that the system really needs. (from what ive seen)
[06:17] <UBuxuBU> clean*
[06:17] <nit-wit> UBuxuBU, better ways to do it
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> UBuxuBU:  you should be able to. there are live cds out with  Linux live systems + AV software also.
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> that would be a 'better way'
[06:17] <Jester> hey so.. i'm in the process of building a raid5 - (3) 2tb WD greens ... its been going since before 1pm EST
[06:17] <UBuxuBU> wubi is already in windows now
[06:17] <needlez> Dr_Willis: ok that could be i mean it doesnt bother me to much I guess just was wondering if anyone else had done something like this, also what does everyone think of plymouth compaired to xsplash/ usplash?? personally I like the old one better, plymouth is just so ugly and I couldn't mod it
[06:18] <cablop> estimated time to format as ext3 a 160GB disk
[06:18] <cablop> ?
[06:18] <Jester> doesn't that seem pretty long?
[06:18] <Jester> its at ~86%
[06:18] <UBuxuBU> so i was hopin i dont even need live cd
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> needlez:  i disabled usplash/xsplash also.. I dont need somthing adding more complexity - that i onlys ee for like 4 sec during a boot up.
[06:18] <UBuxuBU> the live cd method work well if u know the file path
[06:19] <cablop> Dr_Willis, needlez i reenabled the splash in my /etc/grub just to ease things in my netbook... but i'm regreting that, xD
[06:19] <needlez> Dr_Willis: so you just have grub2 then it goes to the gdm?? or to desktop?? thats what I have mine set to now
[06:19] <adiman> help help help, i really need help, i am new with ubuntu, i am trying to use my phone as a modem, i have tried google it, seems like i am LOST, pls help, anybody
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> UBuxuBU:  the 'best' way would be a live setup on a flash drive. that way you can easially update the virus definitions.
[06:19] <adiman> via usb cable
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> needlez:  grub2 -> normal old fashioned text messages -> gdm.
[06:19] <Jester> Has anyone built a raid5 before?  I'm want to know if mine is taking unusually long
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> needlez:  you can set GDM to auto login if you want.
[06:20] <needlez> cablop:, Dr_willis thanx for the advice and I do like the way I have it set to now, which is the same way you do Dr_Willis
[06:20] <Fraxtil> I did something in "Monitor Preferences" that disabled Compiz. There was a gksudo popup and it said something about a monitor not supporting a resolution. Does anyone know what I'm referring to?
[06:21] <Diverdude> I Which tool can i use to make a http-request by supplying raw http header text and look at the response? for debugging http basically.
[06:22] <Fraxtil> I think it also said something about needing to use virtual screens. Running compiz yields "compiz (core) - Fatal: Root visual is not a GL visual"
[06:22] <cablop> needlez: well, you accomplished it in a very different way, hehe xD
[06:22] <adiman> hello?
[06:22] <adiman> help me please
[06:23] <UBuxuBU> ok
[06:24] <chris_osx> where can i find out what changes have been made to the latest ubuntu kernel?
[06:24] <Diverdude> Which tool can i use to make a http-request by supplying raw http header text and look at the response? for debugging http basically.
[06:24] <chris_osx> i mean what is new in the updated kernel?
[06:24] <UBuxuBU> we aim to please adiman
[06:25] <Doinkle> chris_osx, kerneltrap.org
[06:25] <chris_osx> Doinkle: is this specific for ubuntu?
[06:25]  * skraito say hi all
[06:25] <Doinkle> you asked about kernels....
[06:26] <chris_osx> Doinkle: i saw there was a kernel update for my ubuntu 10.04 installation. where can i find out what has changed?
[06:27] <adiman> i have create a mobile broadband connection, when i plugin my phone, it just appear as a storage
[06:27] <needlez> also has anyone upgrade the kernel to 2.6.35-24 with no issues to their wireless drivers?? just wanting to kno if its safe yet cuz I tried before and it killed my wireless card
[06:27] <gops> hi
[06:27] <Doinkle> chris_osx, see what the rev # of the updated kernel is, google it with the word changelog
[06:27]  * Doinkle is guessing....
[06:28] <chris_osx> Doinkle: ok thx
[06:28] <gops> problem with rename
[06:28] <rigved> adiman: when you connect your phone, in the phone you need to select modem option and not media storage option
[06:28] <UBuxuBU> adiman, did u speah to your isp
[06:28] <UBuxuBU> speak*
[06:30] <adiman> rigved, im on it, UBuxuBU-whats 'speah'?
[06:30] <Derek_Roberts> Hi all I am having trouble with an atheros wireless and need some help.
[06:30] <po3> hi room.
[06:30] <chronos> hey, I really need help with removing grub from my sda! I deleted partitions with grub, booted in windows recovery disk, and did bootrec and  bootsect commands to restor boot, but any works ...
[06:31] <cyphase> what's the best solution for a NAS? I already have a good idea what im going to use, just want to see if i missed something
[06:31] <chronos> exist another way of remove grub from my sda?
[06:31] <GeorgeA> I just installed qt4 from synaptic including the qt4-dev stuff, i'm trying to compile my project and it can't find the header files, the files are in /usr/include/qt4/* do I need to add any environment variables or something for it to find them? (I'm using qmake-qt4)
[06:31] <rigved> adiman: when i connect my nokia phone, it asks for which mode to connect it in. i select it as PC Suite Mode (and not Mass Media mode).
[06:32] <Derek_Roberts> my problem i can get madwifi installed and using the right drive but the card will not turn on. I have pressed the wifi button but nothing.
[06:32] <adiman> rigved, done it, same as i mention before, as a storage
[06:32] <jjmwood> Hey Im trying to install Ubuntu Netbook on my friends netbook but idk how to get into the bios. Can somone please help?
[06:32] <ozzloy_> i'm having intermittent wireless issues.  the googling i've done so far has been unhelpful.  can i get some help troubleshooting?
[06:33] <rigved> adiman: there must some option where you can decide which mode to connect it in. check the phone's options. specifically in the connection section of the phone's options
[06:34] <ozzloy_> where are the error logs to check if it's a hardware problem?
[06:34] <po3> i know that this question is a little out dated. but a little info would be very helpful. i am installing U5 on an old p2 128,mb ram. 160GB hd. is it Okay that...during the install process. i partitioned as follwos. 8
[06:34] <rigved> JimmyJ: just when you start the machine, a splash screen will appear. it will say something like "Press <button_name> to enter setup. press that button immediatey to enter BIOS setup
[06:35] <po3> 8GB root. ext 3. 386mb swap. and 150 Good Bye as one logic partition?
[06:35] <JimmyJ> Hey, that's cool, but I don't know why you're telling me.
[06:35] <jjmwood> But all it says is loading os Image then boots. iv tried almost every key
[06:36] <rigved> jjmwood: just when you start the machine, a splash screen will appear. it will say something like "Press <button_name> to enter setup. press that button immediatey to enter BIOS setup
[06:36] <chris_osx> jjmwood: have you tried F2?
[06:36] <adiman> rigved: my using huawei broadbang phone
[06:36] <jjmwood> yeah, if tri
[06:36] <rigved> JimmyJ: sorry
[06:36] <jjmwood> Yeah iv tried
[06:37] <view666> hello
[06:37] <rigved> jjmwood: yes, something like F2 or F10 or Tab or Delete. just a few that i have seen
[06:37] <adiman> rigved: are you using Nokia Pc suite? did you installed it with wine?
[06:37] <jjmwood> ill try tab
[06:37] <chris_osx> or ESC
[06:37] <rigved> adiman: no need to install Nokia PC Suite. ubuntu handles everything. :)
[06:38] <jjmwood> doent work
[06:38] <mdpatrick> Whats the easiest way to burn a CD on linux?
[06:38] <rigved> jjmwood: and the other keys? F10, Delete or Esc?
[06:38] <adiman> rigved: i thought your using it, so, what should i do?
[06:38] <jjmwood> its a Sylvania synet07526
[06:39] <jjmwood> rigved: Iv tried those keys too. no luck
[06:39] <rigved> adiman: check the phone's settings. there must an option to select the mode in which the phone is connect to a computer's usb port
[06:40] <adiman> rigved: done that earlier, nothing, its just shows to connect it via usb, fyi, it's a china broadband phone
[06:40] <Us3r_Unfriendly> alot of hardware christmas related problems tonight?
[06:40] <Doinkle> mdpatrick, an .iso or files?
[06:41] <Us3r_Unfriendly> how's it going rs0832 ?
[06:41] <jjmwood> it has windows ce 6.0 and i tried to load the Wubi installer but it says " not a WIndows Ce application"
[06:41] <rigved> adiman: sorry. i do not know then. you should contact the phone's service center to find out how to connect it in the modem mode
[06:42] <adiman> anyone knows?
[06:42] <rs0832> Us3r_Unfriendly, hi :) good.. you?
[06:42] <view666> hello,boys and girls,where are you from?
[06:43] <view666> hello,boys and girls,where are you from?
[06:43] <bazhang> !ot | view666
[06:43] <view666> o
[06:44] <view666> i know
[06:44] <rigved> jjmwood: weird. i couldn't find anything on the internet on BIOS of the netbook.contact the manufacturer or a service center to find out how to enter te BIOS
[06:44] <rigved> jjmwood: *the
[06:44] <yagoo> anyone ever used unetbootin? (like to know if it does the entire usb drive OR just 1 partition.. i don't want to lose other partitions on the usb)
[06:45] <Us3r_Unfriendly> yagoo: i've used it plenty of times
[06:45] <chris_osx> jjmwood: that's an ARM device not a x86 machine
[06:45] <chris_osx> so it's not a normal laptop
[06:45] <Us3r_Unfriendly> yagoo: i've only used the full drive
[06:45] <Us3r_Unfriendly> yagoo: are you thinking of dual booting a flashdrive?
[06:45] <chris_osx> you can't just install Ubuntu for x86 computers. do you know that?
[06:46] <mdpatrick> Doinkle: Either
[06:46] <rigved> jjmwood: you could try the net installer
[06:46] <bsmith0931> chris_osx: why not
[06:46] <forzan> 'does that you fart?' - my wife, asking if I was the one that farted, after a long day of work
[06:46] <Doinkle> mdpatrick, in panel, Applications, Sound & Video, Brasero
[06:46] <bazhang> forzan, wrong channel
[06:46] <chris_osx> bsmith0931: i already said why
[06:47] <forzan> oh, wow, ubuntu, whatam I doing in here :|
[06:47] <rigved> !netboot | jjmwood
[06:48] <Fraxtil> I did something in "Monitor Preferences" that disabled Compiz. There was a gksudo popup and it said something about a monitor not supporting a resolution. Does anyone know what I'm referring to?
[06:48] <Fraxtil> I think it also said something about needing to use virtual screens. Running compiz yields "compiz (core) - Fatal: Root visual is not a GL visual"
[06:48] <mdpatrick> Doinkle: Sound & Video... rough fit on the category!! thanks :)
[06:48] <cablop> what is the recommended comamnd to chack a filesystem?
[06:48] <cablop> *check
[06:48] <Fraxtil> cablop: fsck?
[06:48] <Doinkle> mdpatrick, i agree.  for reference, ALT-F2 and type brasero :)
[06:49] <cablop> does it check yhe surface for errors? i mean surface errors?
[06:49] <Fraxtil> You mean the physical surface of the hard disk?
[06:49] <mdpatrick> Doinkle: Do you use 64bit ubuntu?
[06:49]  * mdpatrick has a new PC with 6 gigs of ram...
[06:49] <mdpatrick> Getting ready to install ubuntoo :)_
[06:50] <mdpatrick> ubuntu!
[06:50] <cablop> yep, the physical surface
[06:50] <Doinkle> mdpatrick, I did for three months, until yesterday.  I had enough of the flakiness.  8 have 8Gb RAM and 32bit with PAE rocks for me. :)
[06:50] <Fraxtil> cablop: It would interpret such errors as errors in the filesystem itself. Hard drives have no mechanism for checking for physical problems.
[06:50] <mdpatrick> Doinkle: What's PAE?
[06:50] <cablop> Fraxtil: neither bad blocks/
[06:50] <Fraxtil> cablop: could you reword that?
[06:51] <Doinkle> mdpatrick, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[06:51] <cablop> is there no way to check for bad blocks then?
[06:51] <Fraxtil> cablop: that would be fsck.
[06:51] <mdpatrick> Doinkle: On there now :)
[06:52] <bazhang> cablop, badblocks
[06:52] <bsmith0931> !badlocks
[06:53] <bsmith0931> !badblocks
[06:53] <bazhang> bsmith0931, you can man badblocks in the terminal
[06:53] <cablop> thanks :)
[06:53] <jayzie> hi all
[06:54] <jayzie> Male here
[06:54] <bazhang> jayzie, so?
[06:54] <rigved> !find badblocks | bsmith0931
[06:54] <bsmith0931> thanks
[06:54] <cablop> hehe, LOL, you avoiding a bunch of male geeks to start flirting to you? xD
[06:55] <gancient> hi all, i am in a bit of a problem right now , was formatting my new 2TB hdd using the ubuntu 10.10 builtin tool and it got interrupted (powercut) now i cannot boot into ubuntu
[06:55] <mdpatrick> Doinkle: Is it difficult to enable PAE after installing 32 bit ubuntu? I'm kind of a n00b, but if this is the ideal situation to go with it might make sense to set it up that way now :)
[06:55] <Doinkle> ganadist, boot from the cd and try the recovery function
[06:55] <cablop> i think the old board is the problem or the cables... i was able to create a filesystem with ease via usb converter... :(
[06:55] <root_> hi
[06:55] <gancient> Doinkle: ok
[06:55] <Doinkle> mdpatrick, in 10.10 it worked "out of the box"
[06:56] <bazhang> mdpatrick, install linux-generic-pae and it will bring in what you need
[06:56] <root_> root_cooldeniz
[06:56] <root_> hi
[06:56] <cablop> mdpatrick: just install a PAE kernel and adjust a few drivers to it
[06:57] <Doinkle> bazhang, thanks for answering
[06:57]  * Doinkle forgot about that. :/
[06:57] <mdpatrick> Doinkle: So you just ran the installer, and it detected over 4gig and was able to handle it?
[06:57] <mdpatrick> ahh ok hehe taking notes
[06:57] <Doinkle> mdpatrick, yes
[06:57] <Doinkle> but....
[06:58] <Doinkle> make sure your BIOS understands you have more than 4gb.  My mobo(asus) has a soft switch in bios for that
[06:58] <cablop> but sometimes the linux kernel is able to averride the BIOS settings
[06:58] <mdpatrick> bazhang, doinkle: ok so after install... "sudo aptitude install linux-generic-pae" and I should be GTG? How do I check if it worked?
[06:59] <cablop> but... you need for both your motherboard and your processor to be able to handle PAE
[06:59] <bazhang> mdpatrick, check uname -a after you install it
[06:59] <stefano> can i load my current windows partition as a virtual machine from linux?
[06:59] <Doinkle> along with baz's advice, fire up system monitor and see if it sees the ram too
[06:59] <cablop> mdpatrick: check also the linux headers for that pae kernel
[06:59] <bazhang> stefano, you may wish to ask in #vbox
[06:59] <stefano> ok thanks
[07:00] <cablop> mdpatrick: maybe if the live cd is able to see them... you'll have no issues to do that
[07:01] <mdpatrick> cablop: not sure what you mean by linux headers... the stuff that shows up on the screen during boot?
[07:01] <cablop> sigh... i'll start screwing another old board to another old box
[07:01] <bazhang> mdpatrick, linux-generic-pae will bring in what you need
[07:01] <Doinkle> cablop, the installer did all this for me.  installed this yesterday
[07:01] <cablop> nope, mdpatrick it is another package you will need along the linux-pae kernel, some sort of libraries for drivers and related things
[07:02] <cablop> bazhang: i tried that in the past and the linux-generic-pae package forgot to install the headers :S
[07:02] <bazhang> cablop, thats odd, it has always worked fine here
[07:03] <mdpatrick> bazhang: What should I see with uname -a?
[07:03] <bazhang> mdpatrick, the pae kernel
[07:03] <mdpatrick> ah k
[07:03] <cablop> well, in my system i installed a generic kernel before and i thought the system believed the standard headers suffice as a dependencie, this is why i recommend for him to double check that
[07:03] <Doinkle> mdpatrick, here is mine:  Linux Ubuntu-Se7en 2.6.35-24-generic-pae #42-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 2 03:21:31 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:03] <mdpatrick> ahh! that helps, thank you
[07:03] <mdpatrick> You guys rock
[07:04] <mdpatrick> Took notes... going to do this install in the morning
[07:04] <Doinkle> drink a double and do it right now :P
[07:06] <mdpatrick> hehehe
[07:06] <no--name> hi, I installed Lubuntu, updated the graphics card driver, and then Windows XP vanished from the grub menu :(
[07:06] <no--name> It was there between the install of Lubuntu and updating of the graphics card drivers
[07:07] <no--name> Can anybody help me get it back? :(
[07:13] <Mary-Jane> Hey guys I need your help yet again
[07:13] <Mary-Jane> So I have this really outdated mic... and external soundcard. and I need skype to located my soundcard info
[07:13] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Mary-Jane: hi, how can we help you?
[07:13] <Mary-Jane> Is there an apt get install I can do for soundcards?
[07:14] <soreau> ! audio | Mary-Jane
[07:17] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Mary-Jane: you using pulse volume control?
[07:17] <Mary-Jane> no
[07:17] <Mary-Jane> I just want skype to recognize my microphone
[07:18] <Mary-Jane> I have all integrated stuff and under audio preferences it detects my mic and output
[07:18] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Mary-Jane: i know I got to use pulseaudio when I make videos...otherwise it doesn't use my mic
[07:18] <Mary-Jane> how do I get pulseaudio
[07:20] <GeForce88> do i have to use icedte6-plugin to execute java applets on a web page?
[07:20] <rs0832> Mary-Jane, the packages are in the repos..
[07:20] <rigved> i get the follwing error when i try to sync tomboy with ubuntuone. can anyone tell me how to fix that? - http://paste.ubuntu.com/547653/
[07:20] <rs0832> GeForce88, yes.. but i suggest that you install the actual java instead
[07:21] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Mary-Jane: sorry ...            sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[07:21] <GeForce88> rs0832 i thought i had, but FF is still telling me i need icedtea
[07:21] <rs0832> GeForce88, which package did you install? for java?
[07:21] <rs0832> GeForce88, you need the sun-java6-* packages
[07:22] <rs0832> GeForce88, including the sun-java6-plugin package.. and then remove the iced tea plugin if it is installed, so java can replace it in ff
[07:22] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Mary-Jane: your going to have to play with the input devices part and tweak it to your liking
[07:22] <GeForce88> rs0832 does 10.10 have those in it's repos?
[07:22] <rs0832> GeForce88, yes it does
[07:23] <GeForce88> i'm not finding them
[07:23] <rs0832> GeForce88, are you using synaptic?
[07:23] <GeForce88> no
[07:23] <GeForce88> apt-get
[07:23] <rs0832> GeForce88, use synaptic
[07:23] <rs0832> GeForce88, if you can
[07:23] <Us3r_Unfriendly> GeForce88: sudo apt-cache search    ??
[07:23] <GeForce88> i can. brb let me look
[07:23] <Maahes> what should I use to explore .DB files?
[07:24] <rigved> i get the follwing error when i try to sync tomboy with ubuntuone. can anyone tell me how to fix that? - http://paste.ubuntu.com/547653/
[07:24] <Maahes> !DB
[07:24] <rs0832> rigved, hmm.. 404
[07:24] <Us3r_Unfriendly> db?
[07:24] <rigved> Maahes: that's a batabase file like thumbs.db
[07:24] <rigved> Maahes: *database
[07:24] <Maahes> rigved: I would like to explore it.
[07:25] <Maahes> and edit values
[07:25] <rs0832> Maahes, you can try an sqlite db browser
[07:25] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Mary-Jane: how are you doing?
[07:25] <rigved> rs0832: i have been getting this error for like the past few weeks whenever i try to sync tomboy
[07:26] <Mary-Jane> I am getting pavucontrol right now
[07:26] <Us3r_Unfriendly> k
[07:26] <Mary-Jane> to see if that'll work for skype
[07:26] <rs0832> Maahes, use sqlitebrowser .. install from repos
[07:26] <rs0832> rigved, it connects to a remote server for sync right?
[07:27] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Mary-Jane: it works when my mic doesn't work.  I just fiddled around with pulse audio, now I can record and use skype or teamspeak or what ever
[07:27] <rigved> rs0832: i think so. my other files sync properly with ubuntuone. only tomboy doesn't
[07:27] <Mary-Jane> how do I use it?
[07:27] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Mary-Jane: your going to have to play with the input devices part and tweak it to your liking
[07:28] <rs0832> rigved, hmm maybe tomboy uses a master server, which is down or something?... ill see if i can find anything
[07:28] <rs0832> rigved, there is a bug registered.. checking it out now - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+bug/575937
[07:28] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Mary-Jane: applications>sound and videos>pulseaudio volume control
[07:29] <rigved> rs0832: ok. thanx.
[07:29] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Mary-Jane: go to the input device and play around with it till the mic works
[07:30] <nirazio> I use Ubuntu 10.10 and I've been shifting back and forth between the desktop and the netbook remix versions. Now I can't find the unity interface on UNR. It still shows as "installed" on the software center. Logging back and logging in on any other mode, gives me the same interface. Any ideas?
[07:30] <rs0832> rigved, ah yes.. there seems to be a solution.. you can try and see if it works
[07:30] <rs0832> rigved, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+bug/575937/comments/8
[07:31] <ceh421> can i get crunchbang help here? i assume i can since its ubuntu/debian based,
[07:31] <Mary-Jane> so i got it working is there anything I should know to make it work in skype or does it just do it itself?
[07:31] <Myrtti> no
[07:31] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ceh421: what's your problem?
[07:31] <agungnk> Hi
[07:31] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Mary-Jane: start skype and go to the test part of the application...see if your mic works
[07:31] <Myrtti> !crunchbang | ceh421
[07:32] <rs0832> rigved, see that post and the last one on the pag
[07:32] <ceh421> the problem is my display is off centered, the display works fine in suse, i have the correct nvidia driver installed and the settings on the monitor itself dont quiet fix it
[07:32] <bazhang> ceh421, its not supported here
[07:32] <rigved> rs0832: there is a comment just below that which says that the script did not work. but i'll give it a try. thanx
[07:32] <ceh421> ty
[07:32] <rs0832> rigved, try the last on the page
[07:32] <Squarism> what does LTS imply and should i rather get 10.04 than 10.10 to benefit from 10.04 being a LTS releaste?
[07:32] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sorry ceh421.
[07:32] <GeForce88> rs0832 i needed to open the commented out repos in sources.list and update. then apt-get found them. any ideas if this java package will work with 64 bit?
[07:33] <rs0832> GeForce88, hmm.. sorry i am not sure but you can try
[07:33] <Us3r_Unfriendly>  ceh421 but you might want to look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you have it
[07:33] <rigved> rs0832: i am afraid to try that because i do not know whether i will lose all my data with it like my notes. i'll try that after the first one. :)
[07:34] <GeForce88> yea, i'm getting ready to log into it now. thanks for the package name
[07:34] <rs0832> rigved, ah ok
[07:34] <rs0832> GeForce88, :) ok
[07:36] <Mary-Jane> yeah idk man its still not working for my input
[07:36] <Mary-Jane> Skype just has default and when I hit test call it says can't locate antying
[07:36] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ceh421: and take a look at your "nvidia-settings"...      sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings       if you have it in their repos
[07:37] <rs0832> rigved, the server seems to be fine though - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status#Notes
[07:37] <a931bw> Guys when i play video though ANY player in system. The video is Blue'ish
[07:37] <ceh421> nvidia-settings is already the newest version.
[07:37] <ceh421> nvidia-settings set to manually installed.
[07:37] <rigved> rs0832: the script did not work. will try the second method later tomorrow as i am in the middle of some work. thanx again. :)
[07:37] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Mary-Jane: that's how I got mine working.  What card are you using?
[07:37] <rs0832> rigved, ok then.. sorry i couldnt help.. i havent used tomboy :)
[07:38] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ceh421: look in those settings to fix your monitor sizing
[07:38] <a931bw> xeh thanks
[07:38] <a931bw> ceh
[07:38] <Mary-Jane> I'm not using any card
[07:38] <Mary-Jane> it's an integrated sound card setup
[07:38] <a931bw> your message was helpfull to me too :D
[07:38] <rigved> rs0832: np. infact you helped to find the bug, that's a lot of progress for me :)
[07:38] <a931bw> somehow my HUE was -1000
[07:38] <ceh421> us3r: wehre do i find those settings?
[07:38] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Mary-Jane: i thought you said you were using a different card
[07:38] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Mary-Jane: sorry
[07:39] <rs0832> rigved, :) and make sure you check the last link... i think something there might help you fix it (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status#Notes)
[07:39] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Mary-Jane: could you pastebin your "sudo lshw"
[07:39] <rigved> rs0832: ok. :)
[07:39] <rs0832> rigved, good luck with it
[07:39] <rigved> rs0832: thanx
[07:41] <Mary-Jane> woah
[07:41] <Mary-Jane> how do I pastebin something
[07:41] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Mary-Jane: http://pastebin.com/
[07:44] <hackerss4038> hi
[07:44] <skraito> hi hackers
[07:44] <Us3r_Unfriendly> hi skraito
[07:44] <skraito> err are u unfriendly
[07:44] <psycho_oreos> !pm| skraito
[07:44] <bazhang> skraito, ?
[07:44] <skraito> u not gonna shoot me with all crap right
[07:44] <skraito> :p
[07:44] <bazhang> skraito, wrong channel
[07:45]  * skraito just kidding
[07:45] <Us3r_Unfriendly> i can be unfriendly at times
[07:45] <Us3r_Unfriendly> skraito: what's your question?
[07:45] <skraito> nah i am just saying hi
[07:45] <skraito> i dont have a question at the moment
[07:45] <skraito> can i private message u for invitation unfriendly ?
[07:46] <bazhang> !ot | skraito
[07:46] <Us3r_Unfriendly> skraito: for what invitation
[07:46] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ?
[07:46] <rs0832> skraito, if you want to just chat with ubuntu guys you can use #ubuntu-offtopic... some of the guys from here are there too
[07:46] <skraito> ok
[07:46] <skraito> no one there
[07:46] <bazhang> skraito, sure there is
[07:46] <rs0832> skraito, o.0 there is
[07:47] <skraito> oh yeah alot of them
[07:47] <skraito> it just join with ...
[07:47] <rs0832> skraito, :)
[07:47] <skraito> been bored lately anyway thx for the info
[07:47] <skraito> brb
[07:49] <Mary-Jane> hey unfreindly
[07:49] <Vijaykumar> hi mary
[07:49] <Mary-Jane> hw on pastebin
[07:49] <Vijaykumar> i love u
[07:49] <Mary-Jane> its sean lshw
[07:49] <bazhang> Vijaykumar, wrong network
[07:49] <Vijaykumar> why bazhang?
[07:49] <rs0832> haha :)
[07:49] <Vijaykumar> whats wrong?
[07:49] <bazhang> Vijaykumar, please stop
[07:49] <rs0832> Vijaykumar, this is not a dating channel
[07:49] <Vijaykumar> ok
[07:49] <Vijaykumar> then what channel is this?
[07:50] <Vijaykumar> I am here for the first time...
[07:50] <rs0832> Vijaykumar, tech support for an operating system
[07:50] <Vijaykumar> ok
[07:50] <Vijaykumar> ubuntu?
[07:50] <rs0832> Vijaykumar, yes:)
[07:50] <Vijaykumar> can u tell me about Lubuntu...
[07:50] <Vijaykumar> what is lubuntu for...and difference between Lubuntu and ubuntu
[07:51] <Mary-Jane> omg
[07:51] <Mary-Jane> the person that was helping me
[07:51] <Mary-Jane> ditched me
[07:51] <rs0832_> Mary-Jane, who?
[07:51] <ceh421> well, that didnt work
[07:51] <Mary-Jane> user unfreindly
[07:51] <akshatj> Vijaykumar, no Lubuntu =/= Love Ubuntu
[07:51] <ceh421> hmm, im sure its not the gfx card drivers, what else could it be
[07:51] <rs0832_> Mary-Jane, dont worry .. he ll be back
[07:52] <psycho_oreos> !lubuntu| Vijaykumar
[07:52] <Vijaykumar> thanks...is lubuntu good for Netbook?
[07:53] <lighta> design for at least
[07:53] <psycho_oreos> Mary-Jane, you haven't really pasted the link to the pasted stuff, pastebin.com is just the main website for people to view and create pastes not a direct link to individual paste
[07:54] <psycho_oreos> Vijaykumar, its up to the end user to decide, if you want to ask more questions about lubuntu, I suggest you to ask in #lubuntu rather than in here
[07:54] <manlymat183> Does anyone have any thoughts on this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10280076  -- I've spend a day now trying to get it working.  Is there just no way to make the GUI work with verizon?
[07:58] <psycho_oreos> manlymat183, not that I'm with verizon, but my guess is that for bluetooth side of things, it isn't very well adapted, you could probably however hack up a script to make things easier for you I suppose until of such time that there will be an app to handle it
[08:02] <nirazio> Is it possible to display shadows behind text on the gnome desktop??
[08:02] <wyclif> Merry Christmas
[08:03] <rs0832> wyclif, to you too
[08:03] <wyclif> rs0832: =)
[08:04] <R3D> Got 1 ? does  ubuntu have trim support ?
[08:04] <rs0832> wyclif, :)
[08:05] <wyclif> If you guys haven't read it yet, today's 'The Setup' features Ubuntu prominently: aaron.boodman.usesthis.com
[08:07] <akshatj> R3D, I think so
[08:07] <R3D> k thank u
[08:08] <akshatj> R3D, http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=18f0f97850059303ed73b1f02084f55ca330a80c
[08:08] <manlymat183> psycho_oreos: OK, thanks.  So the recommendation is to still go the script route then?  I just wish there was a way to use the internal manager with bluetooth.    I assume the network connector in 10.10 only supports bluetooth tethering with GSM devices?
[08:17] <llutz_> manlymat183: i just configured the apn here, it automatically detects if 3g is available or not. no need to change anything in networkmanager
[08:18] <TheSarge> Okay so here is my situation. Right now Ubuntu is taking up my entire HDD. I am going to resize and install  windows 7. I have no optical drive and am using a usb drive to install. So after I install is there an  easier way to fix my grub then having to format my usb drive and install a linux live cd?
[08:19] <manlymat183> llutz_: hmmm, maybe I should get a dedicated mobile broadband card instead of using tethering through my blackberry.  It'd honestly be nice to be able to use both individually anyway.  Sounds like a GSM provider would work best with Ubuntu.
[08:20] <llutz_> manlymat183: don't know how blackberrys work, but when using my nokia via bluetooth, its the same thing. Nokia is configured to use 3G and then i only bind it with rfcomm to a device and use that as dialup
[08:21] <manlymat183> llutz_: so you're saying there is some manual configuration involved?
[08:22] <llutz_> manlymat183: _i_ only know the manual way when using a cellphone via bluetooth.
[08:23] <llutz_> manlymat183:but usually i use the built-in 3G-card of this AAO with networkmanager, which works flawlessly
[08:24] <manlymat183> Here's my issue: I went to the bluetooth icon at the top.  Paired my blackberry with my laptop.  Tried to establish a DUN setup but Verizon wasn't one of the options listed.  It asked me to enter an ASM manually (not sure what that is).
[08:24] <manlymat183> I *think* my t510 has a built in mobile broadband card, but I don't know for usre.
[08:24] <manlymat183> sure*
[08:24] <manlymat183> and I'm not quite sure how to check
[08:26] <llutz_> manlymat183: "lsusb" should show something 3g-related if there is a card built-in
[08:27] <manlymat183> nah, looks like there isn't, but I thought I added it as a feature.  They had an "antenna" feature or something.
[08:29] <Nightmaren> Hello, once someone has the time, I wanted to know if someone can help me identify why my fresh ubuntu 10.04 install is ignoring the kubuntu backport repository?
[08:30] <ceh421> i believe i have figured out the problem, any way to set the horizontal and vert sync for my monitor?  is that in any config file?
[08:30] <Jordan_U> TheSarge: Yes, you can install grub to the USB drive without needing to format it, then boot Ubuntu from USB and re-install grub from within Ubuntu.
[08:31] <sabri> bonjour
[08:31] <sabri> est-ce possible d'utiliser deux bib différente sur ubuntu
[08:31] <sabri> du genre
[08:31] <sabri> session 1 sur GNOM
[08:32] <qiandong> 大家好
[08:32] <manlymat183> I may just go to the store and grab a T-Mobile card
[08:32] <sabri> et sesssion 2 sur unity
[08:32] <qiandong> hello everybody
[08:32] <akshatj> !english | sabri
[08:32] <qiandong> I'm new here
[08:32] <sabri> am thinking if its possible to use two different library with ubuntu
[08:32] <sabri> like
[08:32] <qiandong> can you hear me
[08:32] <akshatj> qiandong, hi, what help do you need?
[08:32] <sabri> session 1 with unity and session 2 with GNOME
[08:33] <sabri> ubottu, akshatj>sorry
[08:33] <qiandong> I want install oracle on ubuntu,what can I do
[08:33] <TheSarge> Jordan_U: Huh?
[08:33] <sabri> so, is it possible?
[08:33] <TheSarge> You misunderstood my problem lol.
[08:34] <sabri> using GNOME and unity in two different session
[08:34] <Jordan_U> TheSarge: Do you have more than one USB drive?
[08:34] <TheSarge> I figured it out anyways I can use w32grub to install grub from windows then add my ubuntu entery
[08:34] <akshatj> sabri, yes, at the bottom of the login screen there is a small box that allows you to choose sessions
[08:34] <TheSarge> entry
[08:34] <sabri> yes, i know about session
[08:35] <akshatj> Ubuntu Desktop Edition for GNOME and Ubuntu Netbook Edition for Unity
[08:35] <sabri> but am talking about graphic library
[08:35] <TheSarge> But now I need to know if there is some linux program like Unetbootin but that will make my usb drive a bootable windows installer.
[08:35] <qiandong> Is there any Chinese here?
[08:35] <sabri> akshatj,
[08:35] <bazhang> qiandong, in #ubuntu-cn
[08:35] <sabri> am using unity now
[08:35] <bazhang> TheSarge, try ##windows
[08:35] <TheSarge> Or is it as simple as making it ntfs dumping the contents of the iso and marking it bootable?
[08:35] <sabri> but it seem hard for first time, that's why am trying to find a solution to use two different library..
[08:36] <TheSarge> bazhang: I am using linux to do it.. so Windows is of no help. Thx for the sugestion though.
[08:36] <akshatj> sabri, what graphic library?
[08:36] <sabri> GNOME and unity
[08:36] <TheSarge> Just cause the problem involves the word windows people think it has to be answered in ##windows lmao.
[08:36] <TheSarge> Its a linux Issue not windows.
[08:36] <sabri> its like, i want to configurate two session and each one work with different library
[08:36] <bazhang> TheSarge, its for a windows boot disk. ##windows
[08:36] <Jordan_U> TheSarge: While you're using linux to create the USB, the problem is really much more related to windows than it is linux, and almost all the people in ##windows also use linux.
[08:37] <TheSarge> No all of the work is done in a linux machine what I am installing is not important, you are wrong.
[08:37] <TheSarge> I am doing all of the work on a linux machine..
[08:37] <akshatj> sabri, oh you mean you want different profiles for both
[08:38] <sabri> so, yeah that's it
[08:38] <ManDay> Guys can someone tell me how to get a PIDGIN notification something in cairo-dock? I've tried enabling the "Messages" Plugin but it shows as an empty space without icon!
[08:38] <Nightmaren> hmm how come all my repos with "Translation-en_US" at the end are getting ignored? I just added an amarok ppa...
[08:38] <TheSarge> 3~creating the USB is the whole issue!
[08:39] <sabri> if i have a good memory i thinnk it was possible in the past to configure two different profile one with GNOME and others with KDE
[08:39] <TheSarge> And I am creating the USB in LINUX!
[08:39] <sabri> but now, i can't find how :(
[08:39] <TheSarge> Plus no one is active in windows I have already asked there.
[08:40] <sabri> also, with unity i can't start more than one shell window ..
[08:42] <sabri> brothers
[08:42] <lighta> does fdisk -l on a wubi installation differ from a live cd one ?
[08:43] <ManDay> Does anyone know wheere the channel for CAIRODOCK is ?
[08:43] <okin_inside> go go go
[08:43] <TheSarge> Are you guys serious right now?
[08:43] <bazhang> ManDay, try /msg alis list *cairo*
[08:44] <sabri> so, does someone know how to configurate two different graphic profile for two # session into ubuntu
[08:44] <ManDay> hm yeah, #cairo-dock has about 10 people
[08:45] <ManDay> i thought it was famous
[08:46] <Jordan_U> lighta: Yes, but how it differes depends on what exactly you're looking at.
[08:47] <stbtrax> how can I get a continuous output of dmesg?
[08:47] <llutz_> stbtrax: tailf /var/log/dmesg
[08:49] <lighta> Jordan_U, trying to mount the ntfs partition used by wubi on the ubuntu, don't know wubi well, what it'll lead ?
[08:49] <Jordan_U> lighta: It's already mounted, to /host.
[08:50] <lighta> ah nice ok
[08:50] <lighta> with writting right ?, no need to put ntfs3g etc ?
[08:50] <lighta> well I think I can check on fstab
[08:50] <stbtrax> llutz: didn't seem to work but 'tailf /var/log/messages' worked, thanks.
[08:51] <Jordan_U> lighta: Correct. Since Ubuntu's root is contained on a file in the windows partition, to have a readable and writeable root Wubi also needs to always have a readable and writeable windows partition.
[08:52] <hegesias> Hi there, support channel :) I attempted to install the acerhk utility (command: sudo module-assistant auto-install acerhk), however it ended with this make error: "make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-27-generic';  CC [M]  /usr/src/modules/acerhk/acerhk.o; gcc: -pg and -fomit-frame-pointer are incompatible; make[4]: *** [/usr/src/modules/acerhk/acerhk.o] Error 1" ... Any suggestions, pretty please? ^^
[08:52] <AnthonyCat> How do I set gnome terminal to start in ~ (like ctrl alt f1 does) instead of the full home directory path.
[08:52] <lighta> ok I see Jordan_U thx a lot =)
[08:52] <AnthonyCat> I added cd ~ to my .profile, but that didn't do anything
[08:53] <Jordan_U> lighta: You're welcome :)
[08:53] <quietone> how to I xfer video to an ipod? gtkpod fails with "must install mp4v2 library" which is not in synaptic.
[08:54] <bazhang>  libmp4v2-0 quietone ?
[08:54] <Jordan_U> AnthonyCat: What is the output of "echo $PS1; echo $SHELL" in both gnome-terminal and at a tty (ctrl+alt+F1)?
[08:55] <gancient> thanks to all, my ubuntu 10.10 booted now , there was some bad sectors. rectified using fsck .
[08:55] <quietone> bazhang, yes, i think i had a typo (many times)
[08:55] <bazhang> quietone, its there
[08:55] <gancient> btw where is this IRC logged ?
[08:55] <bazhang> !1984 | gancient
[08:55] <AnthonyCat> nm, I found how to do it. (It was just bash -l)
[08:56] <sabri> did someone know how to make two different graphic profile for two different session into ubuntu
[08:56] <sabri> :(
[08:58] <gancient> ubottu: under 2010 / 12 /26 there are so many logs which one is this channel logged to  ?
[08:58] <bazhang> gancient, #ubuntu.txt and #ubuntu.html
[08:58] <psycho_oreos> sabri, you can, with some slight difficulty, making xorg dump a conf file, duplicate that and edit the second one for the second session and whenever needed either hack up a script to start the second session of xorg in that fashion or switch by closing xorg with script and making it start on an alternate profile
[08:58] <[thor]> gancient: there is a bit of a lag before the log is committed.
[08:59] <gancient> [thor]: ok
[08:59] <nirazio> I use Ubuntu 10.10 and I've been shifting back and forth between the desktop and the netbook remix versions. Now I can't find the unity interface on UNR. It still shows as "installed" on the software center. Logging back and logging in on any other mode, gives me the same interface. Any ideas?
[08:59] <sabri> psycho_oreos, thanks
[09:01] <quietone> bazhang, thx.  curious that synaptic finds "libmp4v2" but returns nothing for "mp4v2".
[09:01] <bazhang> quietone, you might try apt-cache search mp4v2 to get something like that in future
[09:02] <quietone> bazhang, will do.
[09:04] <Nightmaren> what does this mean? "Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/beta/ubuntu/ lucid/main Translation-en_US"
[09:05] <rs0832> Nightmaren, you have not enabled updating from that source
[09:05] <rs0832> Nightmaren, so it was ignored (Ign)
[09:06] <Nightmaren> how may I do that? I checked it in the sources
[09:06] <camper308> hallo
[09:06] <rs0832> Nightmaren, hmm the same one?
[09:06] <camper308> any chinese here?
[09:06] <psycho_oreos> !cn| camper308
[09:06] <rs0832> camper308, #ubuntu-cn
[09:06] <Nightmaren> yes in the other software tab
[09:06] <Nightmaren> I am having the same Ign issue with gnome-shell repos
[09:07] <rs0832> Nightmaren, which ubuntu are you using?
[09:07] <Nightmaren> 10.04 clean install
[09:07] <rs0832> Nightmaren, version?
[09:07] <Jordan_U> nirazio: You might have driver problems. What is the output of "glxinfo | grep direct"? (if it's more than one line use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com )
[09:07] <Nightmaren> ubuntu
[09:07] <rs0832> Nightmaren, i think it is because that is a ppa for kubuntu ... but i am not sure
[09:08] <Guest5436> quit
[09:08] <nirazio> Jordan_U: DO you want me to instal glxinfo for that??
[09:08] <Jordan_U> nirazio: Yes.
[09:08] <Nightmaren> hmm well I also had the same deal when trying to install the gnome-shell beta repo
[09:08] <Nightmaren> "Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net/ricotz/testing/ubuntu/ lucid/main Translation-en_US"
[09:09] <rs0832> Nightmaren, can you pastebin your sources.list file?
[09:09] <Nightmaren> sure, one moment please
[09:10] <Nightmaren> Here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/547657/ I skipped the comments of course
[09:10] <alfred__> noobies question, I want to install openoffice I downloaded it in my computer what are the command to install it ?
[09:11] <rs0832> Nightmaren, can you post it with the comments?
[09:11] <Nightmaren> My apologies, I will do that then
[09:11] <rs0832> Nightmaren, some parts of the config are in there :)
[09:11] <ofpeled> hey
[09:11] <Nightmaren> Haha I see http://paste.ubuntu.com/547658/
[09:12] <ofpeled> and mary christmas
[09:12] <Nightmaren> there is nothing about the PPAs though-- should there be?
[09:12] <alfred__> how to install openoffice, from a folder in my computer?
[09:12] <rs0832> Nightmaren, not really... i think some of the normal repos direct the u
[09:13] <rs0832> Nightmaren, not really... i think some of the normal repos direct the update to the ppas
[09:13] <Nightmaren> I see
[09:14]  * skraito brb
[09:14] <rs0832> Nightmaren, ok.. i will tell you to uncomment some things in the sources.list
[09:14] <Nightmaren> sure
[09:14] <rs0832> Nightmaren, i will pastebin it ok?
[09:14] <Nightmaren> alrighty
[09:14] <ManDay> Is there a way to hook into update-aptd-xapi? I have it running in the background taking up loads of resourc es and I'd like to know what its doing
[09:14] <ManDay> cos I ve just run a complete update yesterday
[09:16] <rs0832> Nightmaren, ok.. now make a backup copy of your sources.list file, and then make the changes in the original as given here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/547662/
[09:17] <Nightmaren> ok, I will run apt-get update now
[09:17] <rs0832> Nightmaren, ok
[09:17] <Nightmaren> hmm no go unfortunately-- same thing
[09:18] <rs0832> Nightmaren, have you modified the sources.list file before?
[09:18] <Nightmaren> no I have not
[09:18] <Nightmaren> It really is odd, since I installed it fresh today and have never ran into such a thing
[09:18] <rs0832> Nightmaren, can you pastebin the out put of the apt-get update
[09:19] <Nightmaren> sure
[09:19] <rs0832> Nightmaren, it isnt exactly a problem
[09:19] <rs0832> Nightmaren, i get lots of Ign's
[09:19] <Nightmaren> oh yes I thoroughly explored the forums seeing that was normal
[09:20] <Nightmaren> the problem here is... its not reading the PPAs
[09:20] <rs0832> Nightmaren, yes but the ppas are also repos :)
[09:20] <nyRednek> seems i've had issues getting 10.x iso's-made-usb chips to boot/recognize themselves as install media
[09:21] <rs0832> Nightmaren, you can try changing the update server from us to main
[09:21] <Nightmaren> hehe now I am confused-- I just know that the updated versions in the ppa repos arent showing up in synaptic
[09:21] <Nightmaren> Here we are: http://paste.ubuntu.com/547663/
[09:22] <rs0832> Nightmaren, you neednt think about it much :) hold on im checking the output
[09:22] <ManDay> Why is everything so freaking HUGE? I got an 1024x768 here and just the evolution settings window is bigger than my screen is high!
[09:22] <nyRednek> had to put 9.10 on this netbook, now updating to 10.4.1LTS
[09:23] <Nightmaren> I really appreciate your help
[09:23] <ManDay> Is there some GNOME setting to make everything a little smaller?
[09:24] <rs0832> Nightmaren, did you change the update server to main ?
[09:25] <Nightmaren> Yes, I tried between Main, US, and a couple others in the list
[09:26] <nyRednek> ManDay, not that i know of...seen the same in kde and fvwm
[09:26] <rs0832> Nightmaren, ok.. one more thing,, do you know for sure that the ppa's have updated software versions from those displayed in synaptic?
[09:27] <ManDay> thanks nyRednek a pity
[09:27] <intel-dell> hey people
[09:27] <Nightmaren> yes, my other computer has more updated versions and should be using the same ppas. I also checked manually
[09:27] <nyRednek> ManDay, i think it has more to do with the way the developer(s) laid out the dialog
[09:28] <intel-dell> what is the differnce between core duo and core solo
[09:28] <rs0832> Nightmaren, and have you compared the two sources.list files?
[09:28] <nyRednek> ManDay, maybe adjusting the font size(down) may help
[09:28] <intel-dell> like when core duo 3.1ghz and core solo 3.1ghz which one is better ?
[09:28] <nyRednek> intel-dell, number of cores
[09:28] <ManDay> nyRednek: already did that
[09:28] <Nightmaren> you know, I was startting to think in that direction as I was typing out my last message... I think I will do that right now.
[09:28] <ManDay> but i can only size it down to a certain size
[09:28] <nyRednek> ManDay, just a suggestion
[09:28] <ManDay> nyRednek: the problem is really more huge icons n all that
[09:29] <Nightmaren> The two computers are side by side
[09:29] <rs0832> Nightmaren, :)
[09:29] <intel-dell> is core duo 3.1ghz and core solo 3.1ghz are the same ? :S
[09:29] <intel-dell> i mean have the same power ?
[09:29] <nyRednek> ManDay, hmmm...tried a window manager that allows dialogs to cover multiple virtual screens?
[09:29] <RealOpty> easy way to restore apt.sources from package default?
[09:30] <Stava> Is UFW blocking connections to all ports by default?
[09:30] <rs0832> intel-dell, no..duo is 2 processor cores and solo is one
[09:30] <Nightmaren> to be honest, I was basically trying to clone my previous computer by putting everything it had onto this computer
[09:30] <Jordan_U> Stava: No, all ports are open by default.
[09:30] <nyRednek> intel-dell, again, two cores means two processors, so to speak
[09:30] <Nightmaren> so if there is a way I can copy source files or something, that is great
[09:30] <intel-dell> rs0832 yes but still both are 3.1ghz ...
[09:30] <rs0832> Nightmaren, ah ok
[09:30] <Stava> Jordan_U, How do I block all ports with ufw? :o
[09:30] <rs0832> intel-dell, yes
[09:31] <RealOpty> or sources.list?
[09:31] <rs0832> intel-dell, you can have a 3.1 ghz celeron too for that matter
[09:31] <nyRednek> intel-dell, and most linux distros take advantage of multiple processors
[09:31] <rs0832> Nightmaren, i think for cloning an install there are tools
[09:32] <Nightmaren> silly me thought I could do it without :P but if I'll get past this snag, Ill be in great shape
[09:32] <Jordan_U> !ufw | Stava
[09:32] <rs0832> Nightmaren, you can do it without:) i m just saying ;)
[09:33] <rs0832> Nightmaren, if this cannot be resolved, you can try that.. but we will still attempt: )
[09:33] <Nightmaren> thank you!
[09:33] <Nightmaren> ok there are some differences between the files
[09:33] <nyRednek> intel-dell, also bear in mind, clock rate is not an accurate measure of performance
[09:33] <Nightmaren> Ill try copying it over first, and keep a backup of the original
[09:33] <nyRednek> intel-dell, MIPS is
[09:33] <rs0832> Nightmaren, ok i got the new installations file.. can you paste the other?
[09:34] <intel-dell> on what ? cache level  ?
[09:34] <rs0832> Nightmaren, or you can copy yourself if you want :)
[09:34] <Ormie> I was just about to open a virtual Machine but it has an error
[09:35] <rs0832> Ormie, long time :) what error?
[09:35] <Nightmaren> here is the pastebin of the other computer http://pastebin.com/Sn89fMFE it has a few things that arent on this one yet however
[09:35] <nyRednek> intel-dell, the speed of a processor is not necessarily an indicator of the speed with which it handles instructions
[09:35] <rs0832> Nightmaren, ok
[09:36] <Ormie> It's an error on virtualbox
[09:37] <rs0832> Nightmaren, yes.. you should try to replace the old entries with this one
[09:37] <Nightmaren> copying it hasnt seemed to fixed the amarok and gnome shell issue however :(
[09:37] <rs0832> Ormie, yes tell me the error
[09:37] <Ormie> rs0832: Here is the paste bin and it contains the error that it shows. http://paste.ubuntu.com/547665/
[09:37] <rs0832> Nightmaren, sorry i missed the part about amarok and gnome shell o.0
[09:38] <Nightmaren> oh no, those were the two IGN issues I pasted before
[09:38] <rs0832> Nightmaren, ah ok
[09:38] <rs0832> Ormie, in synaptic, install DKMS
[09:39] <Nightmaren> what if I were to copy the apt folder between the computers?
[09:39] <rs0832> Ormie, then run sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup in a terminal
[09:39] <intel-dell> ok i have another question like ! what to do with your laptop do you leave it charging and use it like 24H/day or you charge it and use battery !
[09:39] <rs0832> Nightmaren, hmm can you open up system>preferences>software sources?
[09:40] <Nightmaren> sure
[09:40] <intel-dell> i used to use it  24H/day but lately battery doesn't last for long time
[09:40] <nyRednek> intel-dell, the former
[09:40] <nyRednek> intel-dell, condition the battery
[09:40] <rs0832> Nightmaren, sorry its in system>administration>software sources
[09:41] <Nightmaren> yes I located it :)
[09:41] <Ormie> rs0832, This contains what it says http://paste.ubuntu.com/547666/
[09:41] <nyRednek> intel-dell, do that by repeatedly fully charging pc then letting it deplete battery
[09:42] <rs0832> Ormie, i think you missed the 'setup' at the end
[09:42] <rs0832> Nightmaren, ok.. on the first tab, except for the cd, are all entries checked?
[09:42] <intel-dell> ermmm i think i should buy a new battery !
[09:42] <Ormie> rs0832, My mistake.
[09:42] <Nightmaren> yes they are
[09:42] <rs0832> Ormie, :)
[09:43] <intel-dell> but charging battery when it is 100% will heat the battery & the pc too
[09:43] <rs0832> Nightmaren, ok.. second tab?
[09:43] <pmjp> hello people
[09:43] <rs0832> Nightmaren, how many entries? and are all checked?
[09:43] <Nightmaren> only the ppas are checked
[09:43] <nyRednek> intel-dell, again, i said let the battery run down to nothing, then fully charge again
[09:44] <rs0832> Nightmaren, there are others? try checking them
[09:44] <nyRednek> intel-dell, do that a few times
[09:44] <nyRednek> intel-dell, that will help
[09:44] <Nightmaren> I checked all of them but the problem persists
[09:44] <rs0832> Nightmaren, third tab now
[09:45] <Nightmaren> important and recommended are checked
[09:45] <Ormie> That what it's in the terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/547668/
[09:45] <rs0832> Nightmaren, check pre released and unsupported
[09:45] <rs0832> Nightmaren, remember to uncheck these when we are done!
[09:46] <Nightmaren> same problem unfortunately
[09:46] <rs0832> Ormie, try running vbox now
[09:46] <rs0832> Nightmaren, check one of the programs for the version in synaptic
[09:47] <rs0832> Nightmaren, in the mean time ill go through the out put again
[09:47] <Nightmaren> no go:(
[09:48] <Nightmaren> the apt-get update output is a little different now with the new sources.list, would you like that?
[09:48] <Ormie> rs0832, I run it on terminal or menu
[09:48] <rs0832> Nightmaren, yes if you can
[09:49] <rs0832> Ormie, anywhere is fine.. but preferably terminal
[09:49] <Nightmaren> here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/547669/
[09:49] <Nightmaren> for some reason, all the ones with Translation-en_US are IGN
[09:49] <Ormie> It says "vbox is not installed"
[09:51] <Ormie> I am installing it
[09:51] <sur> anybody know here how to make .deb file
[09:52] <rs0832> sur, you have to use dist-tools i think
[09:52] <rs0832> Ormie, ok
[09:52] <PerSeL> Hello! when I type sudo apt-get update in terminal it gives me the following, I think it happened after I installed cairo dock and tried to uninstall it
[09:52] <PerSeL> http://paste.ubuntu.com/547670/
[09:52] <sur> rs8832: how to use those tools???
[09:53] <rs0832> Nightmaren, it does not have a pgp key for one ppa.. see if you can see it on the old installation (75CFD31C9E5DB0C8)
[09:53] <Ormie> rs0832, It does not look like the program that you mean but it ask me for the username
[09:53] <Nightmaren> yes it is on th eold installation, i can obtain it
[09:53] <kelvinella> hello
[09:53] <sur> i want to make .deb file from insatalled program
[09:53] <Doinkle> hi
[09:53] <cybertek> can anyone help me? http://paste.debian.net/103198/
[09:53] <rs0832> sur, i am sorry i have never used them.. something should be available on help.ubuntu.com (search for deb tools'
[09:53] <kelvinella> where is the off topic?
[09:54] <rs0832> Nightmaren, ok
[09:54] <Ormie> rs0832, The package name is "isdnvboxclient"
[09:54] <rigved> !ot | kelvinella
[09:54] <sur> rs0832, thank q
[09:54] <rs0832> Ormie, no start vbox - 'virtualbox' in terminal
[09:54] <rs0832> sur, :)
[09:55] <PerSeL> how can I fix this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/547670/ it comes up in terminal when I type sudo apt-get update
[09:55] <Doinkle> cybertek, you have the port forwarded properly if you are behind router?
[09:55] <rs0832> PerSeL, can you paste your sources.list file?
[09:55] <Ormie> rs0832, It works Thanks
[09:56] <rs0832> Ormie, :) no problem
[09:56] <PerSeL> rs0832: where can I find it?
[09:56] <rs0832> PerSeL, in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:56] <rs0832> PerSeL, paste the contents in a pastebin like paste.ubuntu.com
[09:57] <PerSeL> y ok
[09:57] <rs0832> Nightmaren, whats the stats now?
[09:57] <intel-dell> got to go guys thnks alot for your help ! you are the best
[09:57] <intel-dell> see  you
[09:57] <cybertek> how can I tell if my ISP is blocking my SMTP port 25?
[09:58] <PerSeL> rs0832: http://paste.ubuntu.com/547673/
[09:58] <Nightmaren> i am trying to figure out which ppa is doing that
[09:58] <Ormie> rs0832, Where can i get more ubuntu screen savers?
[09:59] <llutz_> cybertek: ask them
[09:59] <rs0832> Ormie, i am not sure but you can either put any picture for it or try gnome-looks.com i think
[09:59] <rs0832> Nightmaren, i have an idea
[10:00] <Nightmaren> great
[10:00] <Doinkle> cybertek, you didn't answer my quesiton
[10:00] <rs0832> Nightmaren, first, replace the new installation's sources.list with the backup,
[10:00] <rs0832> Nightmaren, now we will see if we can add the ppa's manually to your sources
[10:00] <rs0832> Nightmaren, and i got a backup plan too ;)
[10:01] <rs0832> PerSeL, find the line 'sudo apt-get update' in the file you just pasted, delete that line, save, and then sudo apt-get update
[10:02] <Nightmaren> hehe well you know what? Its starting to get a little late here so I think I'll pick up where I left off in the morning.
[10:02] <rs0832> Nightmaren, ok sure:)
[10:02] <Nightmaren> You have been really helpful and kind through all of this-- I really really appreciate your help
[10:02] <rs0832> Nightmaren, i ll be here about the same time tomorrow :)
[10:02] <Nightmaren> great! I will keep an eye out for you. Thanks again!
[10:03] <rs0832> Nightmaren, sure:)
[10:03] <PerSeL> rs0832: I cannot delete it looks like it's read only
[10:04] <cybertek> yeah isp is not letting me use port 25
[10:04] <rs0832> PerSeL, run gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in a terminal
[10:04] <cybertek> oh wait
[10:04] <rs0832> cybertek, email port?
[10:05] <cybertek> rs0832, yes but I saw yahoo connect
[10:05] <PerSeL> rs0832: thanks now everything is working
[10:05] <rs0832> PerSeL, :) sure thing
[10:05] <brverg> HI I need help in locating a folder
[10:05] <rs0832> cybertek, yahoo messenger?
[10:05] <lighta> Hi, I wan't to only use wlan connexion and disable ethernet, is uncommend /etc/network/interface the correct way to do it or should I do something else ?
[10:06] <brverg> I need help in locating a folder...
[10:06] <reber> hi there. I need very small fonts for a small screen (10'') how to use them system wide ?
[10:06] <AJ_Z0> pidgin 2.7.7 on Ubuntu 10.10. Switched from Network Manager to /etc/network/interfaces for configuring network and now pidgin starts with status "Available... waiting for network connection" and show no buddies until I open Manage Accounts and sign off then on each account. To test I removed .purple and reconfigured all my accounts, settings and buddies - to no effect. Debug output logs "account: Network not connected; skipping reconnect".
[10:06] <AJ_Z0> What am I missing here?
[10:06] <rs0832> brverg, which folder do you need help locating?
     * home > username > .gnome2 > rhythmbox > plugins
[10:07] <rs0832> brverg, what is your username on ubuntu, currently?
[10:07] <brverg> brian
[10:07] <Stava> What will happen if I use TwinView with two monitors (nvidia driver) and remove the primary screen? (I dont have two screens yet, so I cant try)
 brian
[10:07] <Stava> disconnect the primary screen
[10:07] <manlymat183> Does anyone here use mobile broadband with a US provider and Ubuntu 10.10?
[10:07] <rs0832> brverg, using nautilus, browse to /home/brian/
 do you mean places>home?
[10:08] <rs0832> brverg, then click the 'view' menu in nautilus, and click on the 'show hidden files' option
[10:08] <rs0832> brverg, yes you can use that too
 sorry but what is nautilus?
[10:09] <rs0832> brverg, in the normal ubuntu, it is the file manager with which you are currently viewing files and folders :)
 ok. but when I click on places>home folder, rythbox opens automatically
[10:11] <rs0832> brverg, sorry i didnt get you..
[10:11] <rs0832> brverg, rythbox?
[10:11] <diego12121> !list
 rhythmbox starts when I click on my home folder
[10:12] <rs0832> brverg, the player?
 yes
[10:12] <rs0832> brverg, hmm then something is wrong with your system... do this - create a folder on the desktop
 done, then?
[10:14] <rs0832> brverg, right click and select 'open with'
 open with other application? because there is one option "open with movie player"
[10:15] <rs0832> brverg, yes with other application
[10:15] <olivier81> merry christmas to everybody
 ok done
[10:15] <rs0832> olivier81, Merry Christmas to you too
[10:16] <brverg>  olivier81, Merry Christmas to you too
[10:16] <rs0832> brverg, ok now click on the 'use custom command' dropdown
[10:16] <linze> olivier81: thank you
 done
[10:16] <olivier81> i've installed ubuntu 10-10 and i can't control my CPU speed, my Core2DUO E7200 is always running at 1.63GHz instead of 2.53 GHz even at full charge :(
[10:17] <rs0832> brverg, in the box, type 'nautilus' without the quotes, and select the 'remember this ...' option below it
 ok, done
 shall i click on "open?"
[10:18] <rs0832> brverg, make sure the 'remember this...' is _checked_
 yes checked
[10:18] <rs0832> brverg, click open
 ok I can view my contents on the home folder...
[10:19] <rs0832> brverg, ok.. now open the folder 'brian'
[10:19] <alfred__> can someone help me with simple question ?
[10:19] <manlymat183> What's the difference between a mobile broadband connection inside the NetworkManager Applet vs. Adding a DUN connection to a bluetooth device?  Doesn't the Bluetooth device technically become a mobile broadband connection?
[10:19] <rs0832> alfred__, ask
[10:20] <alfred__> I downloaded openoffice, and I do not know how to install it :(
[10:20] <alfred__> rs0832, it is noobie question
[10:20] <rs0832> brverg, then in the view menu, click 'show hidden files'
[10:20] <rs0832> alfred__, where did you download it from?
[10:20] <alfred__> from openoffice the new version, which is not stable
 I need to extract rhythmbox-coverflow-plugin-read-only TO  home > username > .gnome2 > rhythmbox > plugins
[10:21] <rs0832> alfred__, from the website?
[10:21] <alfred__> yes openoffice.org
[10:21] <rs0832> alfred__, what kind of a file is it? is it .tar.gz?
 how to locate home > username > .gnome2 > rhythmbox > plugins?
[10:21] <Nelson_little> #ubuntuusers,#ubuntu-de,#xchat
[10:21] <alfred__> yes tar.gz, succeeded to extract it
[10:21] <alfred__> and now I got a folder
[10:21] <rs0832> brverg, did you click the option in the view menu?
[10:22] <Nelson_little> join #ubuntuusers
 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/coverflow-plug-in-for-rhythmbox/
[10:22] <rs0832> alfred__, then you have to compile it .. it is source code...
[10:22] <alfred__> OOO330_m18_native_packed-1_en-US.9556
[10:22] <alfred__> yes how to compile it and run it
[10:22] <alabala> hello - i have a problem with my wl-608 wireless adapter .. keeps disconnecting frequently
[10:22] <olivier81> how to get help on this channel ? should i ask my question directly on the channel ?
 please look at step 2
[10:23] <llutz_> olivier81: just ask
[10:23] <rs0832> alfred__, the general way is , cd to the directory you mentioned above, in a terminal type ./configure
[10:23] <rs0832> brverg, ok hold on
[10:23] <alfred__> rs0832,  okay I try that
 please look at step 2 in the link I sent u
[10:23] <alabala> rs0832:  pm please
[10:23] <olivier81> i asked but had no answer ? my question is maybe not precise enough or too complicated ?
[10:24] <olivier81> i've installed ubuntu 10-10 and i can't control my CPU speed, my Core2DUO E7200 is always running at 1.63GHz instead of 2.53 GHz even at full charge :(
[10:24] <rs0832> brverg, yes i know what you are trying to do :) i am telling you how to do it... did you open /home/brian?
 yes it's open
[10:25] <rs0832> brverg, now in the 'view' menu, click on 'show hidden files'
[10:25] <alfred__> rs0832, is there a graphical way to do it ?
[10:25] <rs0832> alfred__, sorry but there isnt
 done and I can see gnome2, shall I extract it now?
[10:26] <alfred__> rs0832,  I am getting error no such file or directory
[10:26] <rs0832> brverg, yes :)
 hold on
[10:26] <rs0832> alfred__, what did you type?
[10:27] <alfred__> ./configure
[10:27] <rs0832> alfred__, where?
[10:27] <bgm80> hi , i have folder with 4000 files inside ..need to find for string in some  files  ..how i can serch ?
[10:27] <llutz_> bgm80: fgrep
[10:28] <bgm80> thanks
[10:28] <rs0832> alfred__, did you cd to the folder first?
[10:28] <alfred__> in theyes
[10:28] <alfred__> yes
[10:28] <alfred__> yes
 thanks a lot, the pug in is working. Mwerry Christmas
[10:28] <rs0832> brverg, you too :)
[10:29] <rs0832> alfred__, hmm in the folder, is there any file called readme or install?
[10:29] <alfred__> yes folder read me
[10:30] <rs0832> alfred__, can you tell me what is in it?
[10:30] <alfred__> README_en-US.html
[10:31] <alabala> hello - i have a problem with my wl-608 wireless adapter .. keeps disconnecting frequently
[10:31] <alabala> from 3 to 3 mins
[10:31] <rs0832> alfred__, open it
[10:32] <alfred__> done
[10:32] <alfred__> but there is no instruction
[10:32] <alfred__> only some legal stuff etc..
[10:32] <rs0832> alfred__, the whole thing?
[10:33] <alfred__> rs0832, well, there is no commands anyway to install it
[10:33] <rs0832> alfred__, ok hold on a minute
[10:33] <zhangyuting> hello
[10:34] <alfred__> rs0832,  found something
[10:34] <alfred__> rs0832,  in the folder package there are a list of .deb file many
[10:34] <alfred__> do I install them one by one ?
[10:34] <alfred__> or ?
[10:34] <rs0832> alfred__, ah thats good
[10:35] <alfred__> rs0832, is there a command where I can install all by one command ?
[10:35] <rs0832> alfred__, do you have a list of the names?
[10:36] <alfred__> how can I copy the list :D
[10:36] <alfred__> it is the openoffice all packages
[10:37] <rs0832> alfred__, never mind .. i got it
[10:37] <rs0832> alfred__, :)
[10:37] <alfred__> rs0832,  :)
[10:37] <alfred__> rs0832, will it work ./configure from there ?
[10:37] <gccster> guys when i enable ufw i cant even ping google
[10:37] <rs0832> alfred__, if you have .deb files, you dont have to do that or compile it
[10:37] <gccster> what rule do i miss?
[10:38] <rs0832> alfred__, try this.. cd to the directory in a terminal
[10:38] <alfred__> rs0832, done
[10:38] <alfred__> after I can list all the files
[10:39] <rs0832> alfred__, type gdebi
[10:39] <alfred__> rs0832,  okay
[10:39] <rs0832> alfred__, do you get an output?
[10:40] <alfred__> rs0832, I installed now gdebi :)
[10:40] <mneumonic> Has anyone tried Xonotic yet?
[10:40] <alfred__> gdebi-gtk ?
[10:40] <rs0832> alfred__, its not installed?
[10:40] <rs0832> alfred__,  then dont install it
[10:41] <alfred__> rs0832,  I am installing it
[10:41] <rs0832> alfred__, type this - sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[10:42] <alfred__> rs0832,  YES seems that what I needed :)
[10:42] <rs0832> alfred__, did it install ?
[10:43] <alfred__> rs0832, doing a lot of things :)
[10:43] <rs0832> alfred__, ah good
[10:43] <rs0832> alfred__, let me know when its done
[10:43] <alfred__> rs0832, thank you very much, I will update you
[10:43] <rs0832> alfred__, :)sure
[10:43] <alfred__> rs0832, by the way, I tried to copy from my other laptop files,
[10:44] <rs0832> alfred__, what files?
[10:44] <alfred__> rs0832,  but using the ssh , still I do not get the idea or cp -R /which laptop path/  /which laptop path ?
[10:44] <rs0832> alfred__, what files do you want to copy?
[10:45] <alfred__> rs0832, the dpkg now ended , but I can t see openoffice in my applications ?
[10:46] <rumpe1> alfred__, did it work properly or are any errors reported? (possibly missing dependencies)
[10:46] <alfred__> where can I post the log ?
[10:46] <rs0832> alfred__, paste.ubuntu.com
[10:46] <rumpe1> alfred__, and for copying over ssh you can use scp
[10:46] <alfred__> rs0832, http://paste.ubuntu.com/547676/
[10:47] <ManDay> So I plug in that Thumbdrive and all I get is a [..... ] usb 1-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd at adrdress 10    but no new /dev/sd*
[10:47] <ManDay> How can that possibly be?
[10:47] <rs0832> alfred__, you need to install java
[10:48] <ManDay> Brand new 10.10 install
[10:48] <alfred__> omg
[10:48] <alfred__> another trouble
[10:48] <alfred__> :D
[10:48] <alfred__> rs0832,  :)
[10:48] <rs0832> alfred__, :)
[10:48] <FloodBot4> alfred__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:48] <alfred__> rs0832, which JAva ?
[10:48] <alfred__> apt-get install java ?
[10:48] <rumpe1> ManDay, check "sudo fdisk -l"
[10:49] <rs0832> alfred__, hmm i think the jre
[10:49] <ManDay> rumpe1: works fine after a reboot
[10:50] <ManDay> dammit
[10:50] <rumpe1> alfred__, sun-java6-jre
[10:50] <rs0832> alfred__, sudo apt-get install default-jre
[10:50] <alfred__> rs0832,  rumen[away]  saved a lot of my time :)
[10:50] <rs0832> alfred__, or you can use the one rumpel mentioned.. it is architecture independant, i think
[10:51] <alfred__> rs0832, already installing it
[10:51] <alfred__> used sudo apt-get install default-jre
[10:51] <alfred__> now back to sudo dpkg -i *.deb ?
[10:51] <rs0832> alfred__, yes.. it should create shortcuts now i think
[10:52] <alfred__> rs0832,  let hope :) at least something to do in this cold weather - 26 C
[10:52] <rs0832> alfred__, :)
[10:52] <rs0832> alfred__, whoa
[10:52] <alfred__> it was about -30 last night
[10:52] <alfred__> now it is warmer :)
[10:52] <rs0832> alfred__, :D
[10:52] <ManDay> hell the f**** is that...
[10:52] <rumpe1> alfred__, are you trying to install openoffice on a pc without internet-access?
[10:53] <ManDay> now that the damn thumbdrive works after a reboot the USB keyboard and mouse wont work when plugged in!!!!
[10:53] <ManDay> is there some extremely important ubuntu hack that is required for making hotplug work?!
[10:53] <rs0832> rumpe1, he downloaded the snapshot version of oo
[10:53] <alfred__> rumpe1,  I downloaded to my computer
[10:53] <rumpe1> ManDay, usually it works ootb
[10:53] <ManDay> id say so too
[10:53] <rumpe1> alfred__, ah... ok :)
[10:53] <alfred__> rumpe1, rs0832  still is not working :(
[10:53] <alfred__> there are no links :(
[10:54] <rs0832> alfred__, output paste please
[10:54] <alfred__> sure
[10:54] <rumpe1> alfred__, try starting "oowriter" from terminal/alt-f2
[10:55] <alfred__> rumpe1,  couldn t find it
[10:55] <alfred__> can t run it
[10:55] <ManDay> ever heard that an ndiswrapper for a usb wifi can mess the rest of USB up?
[10:55] <rs0832> alfred__, what about oofice -writer
[10:55] <alfred__> rs0832, rumpe1  http://paste.ubuntu.com/547677/
[10:56] <alfred__> rs0832,  same , not workign
[10:56] <rs0832> alfred__, ok hold on
[10:56] <tjrenok> 有人吗？
[10:57] <akshatj> !cn | tjrenok
[10:57] <rs0832> alfred__, is there a folder called desktop-integration?
[10:57] <alfred__> yes rs0832
[10:57] <ManDay> dammit! guys, how can that be that i plug all sorts of USB devices in and all that the kernel has for me is a message "new USB device"?!? and nothing happens
[10:57] <rs0832> alfred__, please open it and tell me what s in it
[10:57] <alfred__> rs0832,  I install that too ?
[10:57] <ManDay> (it works when NOT hotplugged but plugged before coldstart tho)
[10:57] <alfred__> openoffice.org3.3-debian-menus_3.3-9556_all.deb
[10:57] <alfred__> openoffice.org3.3-debian-menus_3.3-9556_all.deb
[10:58] <rs0832> alfred__, thats it?
[10:58] <rs0832> alfred__, then cd to that folder in the terminal and run sudo dpkg -i *.deb again
[10:59] <alfred__> there is some conflict :)
[10:59] <rs0832> alfred__, ??
[10:59] <alfred__> erros encountered while processing
[10:59] <studio2222222> aiuto
[10:59] <studio2222222> lubuntu
[10:59] <rs0832> alfred__, did it give anymore info?
[11:00] <rs0832> alfred__, try just double clicking on that file
[11:00] <alfred__> rs0832, http://paste.ubuntu.com/547679/
[11:00] <monokrome> Hey.
[11:00] <monokrome> Does anyone here know why Ubuntu doesn't have a package for GCC 4.2?
[11:00] <ManDay> dammit! guys, how can that be that i plug all sorts of USB devices in and all that the kernel has for me is a message "new USB device"?!? and nothing happens! the devices wont show up in /dev and the surely wont work!!!
[11:01] <alfred__> rs0832,  I am installing it now with software manager :)
[11:01] <alfred__> rs0832,  but still Conflicts with the installed package 'openoffice.org-core'
[11:01] <manlymat183> Does anyone here use mobile broadband with a US provider and Ubuntu 10.10?
[11:01] <rs0832> alfred__, you have to remove openoffice-core from synaptic, i think
[11:02] <alfred__> rs0832,  how to :( ?
[11:02] <rs0832> alfred__, hold on
[11:02] <penjonk> hi there
[11:02] <penjonk> anyone help me
[11:03] <rumpe1> penjonk, just ask
[11:03] <ElLoco> hi everyone
[11:03] <akshatj> !ask | penjonk
[11:03] <Jordan_U> !anyone | manlymat183
[11:04] <penjonk> change DNS setting
[11:04] <manlymat183> OK.  Does T-Mobile's Rocket 2.0 card work well with Ubuntu 10.10?
[11:04] <manlymat183> I can't get my Blackberry 9650 to work with tethering/bluetooth
[11:04] <rs0832> Jordan_U, any experience/knowledge of wireless adapters?
[11:04] <penjonk> I use  USB modem in 10.4
[11:05] <ElLoco> I have a question. I reinstalled my ubuntu from a CD and when finish I have a linux generic-pae. Normally I have a generic only
[11:05] <manlymat183> penjonk: t-mobile?
[11:05] <rs0832> alfred__, in synaptic,
[11:05] <Tito0096> Does anyone have an idea on how to get minecraft working?
[11:05] <alfred__> rs0832,  Yes
[11:05] <ElLoco> what is the diference? and why it's not generic?
[11:05] <penjonk> CDMA
[11:05] <Tito0096> Ive been trying disparately with no dice
[11:05] <ElLoco> it's better or not?
[11:05] <rs0832> alfred__, find the package called 'openoffice-bundled'
[11:05] <manlymat183> penjonk: Verizon?
[11:05] <alfred__> rs0832,  how to go there where to find this synaptic
[11:05] <ManDay> dammit! guys, how can that be that i plug all sorts of USB devices in and all that the kernel has for me is a message "new USB device"?!? and nothing happens! the devices wont show up in /dev and the surely wont work!!!
[11:05] <rs0832> alfred__, sorry .. openoffice.org-bundled
[11:06] <alfred__> I type openoffice.org-bundled in command ?
[11:06] <ktosiek> Hi! Anybody here using nmh on maverick? I installed nmh package, but there is no nmh binary
[11:06] <rs0832> alfred__, no in the synaptic package manager search
[11:06] <Jordan_U> rs0832: Yes, but I also am currently using CDMA in the U.S. with Ubuntu 10.10 but can't answer manlymat183, so no guarentee that I'll be able to answer your real question either :)
[11:06] <ktosiek> (only binaries in /usr/bin/mh/, but they seem to be nmh subcommands)
[11:07] <rs0832> Jordan_U, not mine actually, but about the network manager disconnecting a wireless adapter conn. frequently
[11:07] <rs0832> alfred__, find it?
[11:07] <alfred__> rs0832,  foung it
[11:07] <alfred__> I delete it ?
[11:08] <rs0832> alfred__, uninstall
[11:08] <rs0832> alfred__, but before clicking apply,
[11:08] <rs0832> alfred__, tell me what else will be uninstalled (it should tell you)
[11:08] <Jordan_U> rs0832: Other than that it's likely a driver issue and that dmesg might give some insights I can't really help there.
[11:08] <akshatj> ElLoco, pae allows you to use more than 4 GB RAM in 32 bit Ubuntu
[11:08] <alfred__> this bundled, has nothing
[11:08] <test> Hi all, what is the command-line way to disable automatic login in ubuntu?
[11:08] <alfred__> but openoffice got some files I can uninstal
[11:08] <rs0832> Jordan_U, ok thanks:)
[11:09] <Jordan_U> rs0832: You're welcome :)
[11:09] <rs0832> alfred__, no.. uninstall only that one (openoffice.org-bundled
[11:09] <rs0832> )
[11:09] <akshatj> ElLoco, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[11:09] <ElLoco> akshatj, and if I have only 4 GB, the installation decided what kernel install?
[11:10] <ElLoco> I mean if it's better have this kernel or a generic ?
[11:11] <ElLoco> I gonna have updates of the kernel?
[11:11] <alfred__> the openoffice.org-bundled, got nothing to uninstall
[11:11] <alfred__> rs0832,
[11:11]  * skraito say hi all
[11:12] <rs0832> alfred__, ok.. uninstall openoffice.org-core then
[11:12] <alfred__> better :)
[11:12] <rs0832> alfred__, :)
[11:12] <potat0> anyway to limit the amount of mails claws mail fetches?
[11:12] <potat0> the retard thing is currently trying to build a tree for 68k something mails
[11:12] <alfred__> removed
[11:13] <alfred__> rs0832,  it is always easy to destroy , no easy to build :)
[11:13] <alfred__> always easy to fall and hard to go up :)
[11:13] <rs0832> alfred__, :) yes
[11:13] <alfred__> now back to the .deb ?
[11:13] <rs0832> alfred__, yep
[11:13] <rs0832> alfred__, try to install now
[11:14] <ElLoco> akshatj, that's mena that if try to reinstall ubuntu always gonna have a pae kernel?
[11:14] <akshatj> ElLoco, it seems that it is decided by the installer
[11:14] <wootz> hey guys
[11:14] <ElLoco> but if ther it's an update of the kernel, I gonna have it to?
[11:14] <alfred__> rs0832,  now is installing :)
[11:15] <rs0832> alfred__, ah great :)
[11:15] <alfred__> rs0832,  wow now I see the menu :)
[11:15] <wootz> im new here. installed gnome and KDE on mah lucid and now its a strange hybrid type thing. rather fun!
[11:15] <akshatj> ElLoco, you mean if you update you will get updates for the pae kernel?
[11:15] <ElLoco> yes
[11:16] <akshatj> yes
[11:16] <rs0832> alfred__, can you open the programs?
[11:16] <alfred__> rs0832,  Yessss very nice ... rs0832  thank you really so much :)
[11:16] <rs0832> alfred__, sure, no problem :)
[11:17] <alfred__> I start to like this ubuntu more then windows :)
[11:17] <alfred__> no more windows :)
[11:17] <Lungan> Having som trouble with my partition disk wich not has the OS, it seems to have problems with mounting, because it seems to mount on diffrent placec all the time, and then my files I have in my torrent never can seed because the progrma doesn't find the files every time I reboot?
[11:17] <ElLoco> ok, I understand better know what that means, at least a little more
[11:17] <rs0832> alfred__, :)
[11:17] <ElLoco> thanks akshatj
[11:17] <akshatj> ElLoco, :)
[11:17] <wootz> hey guys i got a question
[11:17] <alfred__> rs0832, wow this new version got the prediction and synonym :)
[11:17] <akshatj> !ask | wootz
[11:18] <rs0832> alfred__, ah ok.. thats good :)
[11:18] <wootz> some app icons (firestarter specifically) has a white background instead of the color of the rest of the bar
[11:19] <akshatj> wootz, oh that is problem with icons of some apps
[11:19] <wootz> (i apologize for the bad grammer)
[11:19] <alfred__> rs0832,  I asked you earlier about cp function
[11:19] <alfred__> I did connect to my other laptop via ssh,
[11:19] <rs0832> alfred__, oh for ssh?
[11:20] <alfred__> rs0832,  but the thing is I do not understand how to put the path
[11:20] <alfred__> rs0832, cp -R path ? /path ?
[11:20] <rs0832> alfred__, what files do you want to copy and to where?
[11:21] <alfred__> rs0832, for exp I want to copy let s say pictures in my second laptop to my picture in my actual laptop
[11:21] <ElLoco> thanks to all and happy christmas days
[11:21] <ElLoco> bye
[11:22] <wootz> akshatj you where saying?
[11:22] <stbtrax> Is there any utility to monitor all SCSI commands on a filesystem?
[11:23] <akshatj> wootz, see bug #403135
[11:23] <rs0832> alfred__, yes.. where are the pictures on your first laptop?
[11:23] <wootz> will do, thanks
[11:23] <akshatj> wootz, err, this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/banshee/+bug/403135
[11:23] <rumpe1> alfred__, scp -r user1@secondlaptopip:~/Pictures user2@actuallaptopip:~/Pictures   (for example)
[11:24] <alfred__> rumpe1,  thank you :) I will save this command and try it later, now to to go and rub the shop :)
[11:25] <alfred__> rs0832,  thank you very much again and happy X-mas for everyone
[11:25] <alfred__> rs0832,  I hope I can also help with something :)
[11:25] <rs0832> alfred__, y/w and Merry Christmas to you too :)
[11:25] <rumpe1> alfred__, or just use "places -> connect to server"
[11:25] <wootz> akshatj, yea i got it thanks :)
[11:25] <rs0832> alfred__, :)
[11:25] <miniBill> I cannot play an audio CD
[11:26] <mkanyicy> miniBill, have you tried using rhythmbox?
[11:26] <miniBill> mkanyicy: I only tried with amarok
[11:26] <akshatj> wootz, :)
[11:26]  * miniBill installs rythmbox
[11:27] <wyclif> just installed ubuntu on a xeon quad core, couldn't be happier
[11:27] <wootz> akshatj, hmmm.. its a know bug with no fix for firestarter :\
[11:28] <wyclif> Aqualung
[11:31] <miniBill> wyclif: that song rules :)
[11:32] <miniBill> mkanyicy: now, that I have installed rhythmbox?
[11:33] <Toiletbowl> :)
[11:33] <Tito0096> can someone help me with minecraft in ubuntu?
[11:33] <miniBill> Tito0096: whats your problem?
[11:33] <Tito0096> miniBill: it quits after it loads
[11:34] <miniBill> try opening it from console, and checking error messages
[11:34] <Tito0096> I have
[11:35] <Tito0096> java -jar /home/tito/Desktop/Minecraft.jar
[11:35] <Tito0096> java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "javaw": java.io.IOException: error=2, No such file or directory
[11:35] <Tito0096> 	at java.lang.ProcessBuilder.start(ProcessBuilder.java:460)
[11:35] <Tito0096> 	at net.minecraft.MinecraftLauncher.main(MinecraftLauncher.java:31)
[11:35] <Tito0096> Caused by: java.io.IOException: java.io.IOException: error=2, No such file or directory
[11:35] <FloodBot4> Tito0096: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:35] <Tito0096> 	at java.lang.UNIXProcess.<init>(UNIXProcess.java:148)
[11:35] <miniBill> Tito0096: use pastebin!
[11:36] <miniBill> :D
[11:37] <cybertrash> Er, is the Empathy IM application a bit wonky when it comes to IRC functionality?
[11:37] <stbtrax> Is there an easy way to tell if my kernel has CONFIG_SCSI_LOGGING enabled?
[11:37]  * miniBill solved with rythmbox
[11:38] <akshatj> cybertrash, use XChat
[11:38] <miniBill> or irssi
[11:38] <miniBill> or bitchx
[11:38] <Tito0096> so no input on the error?
[11:38] <Tito0096> lol
[11:38] <miniBill> Tito0096: paste it fully, on pastebin
[11:38] <cybertrash> I might just... But does xChat support this nifty little GUI integration with Ubuntu that Empathy does?
[11:38] <Tito0096> k
[11:39] <akshatj> brb
[11:39] <Tito0096> miniBill: http://paste.ubuntu.com/547691/
[11:40] <miniBill> Tito0096: java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "javaw": java.io.IOException: error=2, No such file or directory
[11:40] <miniBill> cosa dice "which javaw"
[11:40] <Tito0096> Hmmm
[11:40] <Tito0096> what should i do? lol
[11:40] <kad_> heys!! i ineed help!! i have HP Pavilion Dv6 i7, there's 8G RAM , under windows they appear: 8G but under ubuntu they only appear 3.8G why? Ubuntu is 64-bit !!plz help
[11:40] <miniBill> whops
[11:40] <miniBill> Tito0096: what does "which javaw" say?
[11:41] <miniBill> kad_: what does "uname -a" say?
[11:41] <Tito0096> nothing
[11:41] <Tito0096> i type it in the terminal
[11:41] <Tito0096> and nothing
[11:41] <zhoujianlin> 33