[08:18] <richardcavell> Okay, I accept that something like ext4 is a profound change that can break the machine.
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: if you run lsusb; lspci   yuo will get an identifier that you can websearch for
[08:18] <losher> daycreature: my point is that running torrents will expose weaknesses in networking software/hardware that regular downloads won't....
[08:18] <cdrew> vms?
[08:18] <sebsebseb> richardcavell: Ext4 is an optional file system in 9.04
[08:18] <Guest56488> what is your modem doing
[08:18] <cdrew> k
[08:18] <Flannel> richardcavell: No, no.  Like, tomorrow's updates might have a version of X that's totally broken, so you upgrade, and no longer have a GUI.  etc.
[08:18] <cdrew> nothing
[08:18] <tweaker25> if this chat isn't to talk but to help why peoples don't help ?
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: virtual machines, they reboot stupid and don't always come up
[08:18] <cdrew> its just sitting there
[08:18] <daycreature> If I am patient and go through about six restarts of interrupted connection, I can finish a download on a torrent of approximately 100 minutes. So you could estimate I get anywhere from 18 to 20 mb of successful torrent download before the connection breaks
[08:19] <Flannel> richardcavell: But, we're getting offtopic.  If you're still confused, I'll gladly discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:19] <cdrew> it sees the modem and trys to connect
[08:19] <cdrew> but cant
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: well yeah, the command doesnt make it jump into life. it makes you aware of what chip / or identifier it uses and you can websearch it
[08:19] <cbuser> Can anyone help me get ssl set up
[08:19] <tweaker25> http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=fr&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.ubuntu-fr.org%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fpid%3D2808462%23p2808462&sl=auto&tl=en&history_state0= hey I need help here !!!
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> !dialup | cdrew
[08:19] <daycreature> losher: I, understand you now, and  agree with you. Perhaps that's why it took so long for the bug to surface
[08:19] <lstarnes> tweaker25: please be patient
[08:19] <richardcavell> Flannel: Some other day. I'm trying to get my hibernate working at the moment.
[08:20] <cdrew> dialup?
[08:20] <tweaker25> patience isn't my virtue ...
[08:20] <cdrew> who uses that anymore?
[08:20] <daycreature> i didn't attempt to download a torrent at all the first few days, so i didn't know there was a problem until I did
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: i have a few, great for email
[08:20] <tweaker25> I don't wanna be stuck like this for days !!!
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: so its a usb adsl modem i'm guessing?
[08:20] <cdrew> i use highspeed
[08:20] <lstarnes> tweaker25: then make it so.  If nobody has an answer, just wait a while then ask again
[08:20] <daycreature> All I'm looking for is a solution to this problem, as it very negatively effects my experience with the ubuntu operating system, which i otherwise love so much
[08:21] <cdrew> ikt has a USB port in it if thats what you mean
[08:21] <cdrew> it*
[08:21] <lstarnes> daycreature: did it happen with any other operating systems?
[08:21] <cdrew> the rest are normal internet lines
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: can you plese type my name (use tab for ease) at the start of the line
[08:21] <libtech> cdrew: what pieces of network hardware are you using
[08:21] <losher> daycreature: well I understand it's little consolation. Some routers are notorious for running out of connection space in tables when torrenting. Otherwise, I'd worry that your wifi card or your AP hardware might be faulty.
[08:21] <daycreature> no, on this same box i have windows on a different hard drive, i could restart boot into that right now, and download a torrent no problem on the windows OS.
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: see how the text ighlights when i talk to you, thats not an accident
[08:21] <cdrew> ok
[08:21] <CaptainMorgan> aren't they releasing rather fast ?  -- if 10.04 is to be the next LTS, and 8.04 was released under two years ago (I run Server edition), with a 10.04 scheduled in early-mid 2010.. dunno, seems to be coming fast
[08:22] <daycreature> additionally my wireless SIGNAL is at a constant 90%
[08:22] <EnragedOstrich> BAH!! Will someone make a youtube video of installing ePSXe 1.6.0 on Jaunty 9.04?
[08:22] <tweaker25> http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=fr&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.ubuntu-fr.org%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fpid%3D2808462%23p2808462&sl=auto&tl=en&history_state0= help you know ???
[08:22] <EnragedOstrich> This is killing me
[08:22] <daycreature> since i'm in the same room as the router
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: ok can you please provide the output of   lsusb   in a pastebin.
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> !paste > cdrew
[08:22] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: 6.06 was the previous LTS.  LTS is about every two years, which makes sense, considering the desktop version is only supported for three years.
[08:22] <Guest68645> dose any one how to add contacts on skype ?
[08:22] <daycreature> the connection is broken and can't be reconnected to but the signal itself registers as golden, i don't know if that matters in your evaluationn
[08:22] <daycreature> evaluation*
[08:22] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, huh? 8.04 ?
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: don't paste the output here, paste the pastebin link
[08:23] <cdrew> actionParsnip the what?
[08:23] <libtech> daycreature: port forwarding?
[08:23] <tweaker25> EnragedOstrich just do it with wine or virtualbox you don't need a video for that man ...
[08:23] <losher> daycreature: ok, then that strongly suggests a ubuntu driver issue. In your place I would google the wifi card and see if there's a known issue/solution...
[08:23] <Flannel> tweaker25: Please stop repeating your question so often.  30-45 minutes is a good rate.  Also, an actual question is more likely to get answered than a link to a post somewhere.
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: in terminal, type lsusb and hit enter
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: copy the text then go to www.pastebin.com
[08:23] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: yes, before 8.04 was 6.06, which was two years.  10.04 is two years after 8.04, etc.
[08:23] <R0b0t1> I am trying to eject my disk with the Apple Keyboard disk-eject key, the picture displays in the upper-right yet the disk does not eject. I recently copied to contents of the disk onto my computer, could it be not-ejecting because it is still copying?
[08:23] <R0b0t1> It looks like it has finished.
[08:23] <daycreature> my wifi card is an onboard piece to an ASUS motherboard
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: put the text there and hit paste, the page will change and you copy the address of the new page and paste it here
[08:23] <daycreature> I doubt there will be any such documentation
[08:23] <daycreature> I had looked and found none before I came here
[08:24] <tweaker25> Flannel it's make a day that I search that's way enough, I won't sleep until I got an awnser ...
[08:24] <cdrew> actionParsnip what pic?
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: not a pic, the output of the command
[08:24] <cdrew> oh in linux
[08:24] <daycreature> I understood that this was where, if there was not available a current solution, one my developed for you
[08:24] <R0b0t1> Nevermind, eject command fixed this.
[08:24] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, I'm jealous though... am I missing anything by keeping 8.04 for the *full five years* even though the next LTS will be released when I still have three years of support on 8.04?
[08:25] <Freke88> Nice? sitting on work have nothing to do before 10 am and chatting on ubuntu relay chat while drinking Ubuntu Cola :p
[08:25] <tweaker25> is there a way to use the live session to use the graphics settings on my setup ?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: well, yeah
[08:25] <daycreature> my => may be*
[08:25] <cdrew> actionParsnip, like i said
[08:25] <moya> how can I set the default locale in hardy ?
[08:25]  * Kartagis jumps up and down
[08:25] <cdrew> actionParsnip, i cant do that sort of thing right now
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> !locale | moya
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: got a usb memory stick?
[08:25] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, likely app support, upgrades, features.. etc.... confusing to me why anyone would hold on for those three extra years on their Server production
[08:25] <cdrew> actionParsnip, yep
[08:25] <Kartagis> in System > Preferences > Sound, Sounds tab, I changed the system startup sound, but it still defaults. any ideas?
[08:25] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: The fact that the server is supported for five just means you have more time to plan your migration.  8.04 can only upgrade to 10.04 (you won't be able to upgrade directly to 12.04) so you'll have to upgrade eventually.
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: lsusb > ~/output.txt
[08:26] <owen1> to have my truetype fonts in a new machine, is it enough to 'cp /usr/share/fonts/truetype/' or do i need to use aptitude?
[08:26] <cdrew> actionParsnip, ???
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: put the file on the usb stick and transfer it to the windows boot via that
[08:26] <owen1> (cp from old machine)
[08:26] <losher> daycreature: I don't know where you formed that conclusion. My experience has been that if there isn't a current solution, you're generally out of luck. I would still google the motherboard model & see if someone else has encountered/solved the problem before
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: its a terminal command
[08:26] <daycreature> but my request was declared invalid after i submitted it so then after taking all those steps i came here
[08:26] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, thanks!
[08:26] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: because they need time to make sure the migration will go smoothly, etc.  Or aren't in a position to upgrade until 2011 or 2012
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: type:    lsusb > ~/output.txt
[08:26] <daycreature> But why would my bug be considered "invalid" is my question
[08:26]  * tweaker25 will need 1 week of hard fps gaming to pull the pressure out after he get is graphics settings working ...
[08:26] <cdrew> 1 min
[08:26] <Kartagis> owen1, yes, or ~/.fonts
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: you will now have a text file you can move
[08:26] <daycreature> is that not a legitimate bug?
[08:27] <Flannel> daycreature: For an answer to that question, you might try #ubuntu-bugs
[08:27] <daycreature> Damn I'd have to explain all that again. It's worth it though, I think.
[08:27] <Flannel> daycreature: Just ask why your bug was marked invalid (give them the number, etc)
[08:27] <Flannel> daycreature: No need to explain
[08:28] <cdrew> actionParsnip, sorry but i cant do this right now. i can do it tomorrow tho
[08:28]  * tweaker25 pull a grenade open the bot mouth, drop it and watch the boom !!!
[08:28] <cdrew> my mouse broke
[08:28] <owen1> Kartagis: but i had to install inconsolata with aptitude, isn't it mean that i'll have to do it as well?
[08:28] <Flannel> tweaker25: please stop the offtopic comments.
[08:28] <tweaker25> http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=fr&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.ubuntu-fr.org%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fpid%3D2808462%23p2808462&sl=auto&tl=en&history_state0= does someone has an idea
[08:28] <owen1> Kartagis: ttf-inconsolata
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: whenever you want dude
[08:28] <cdrew> ok well ya
[08:28] <Kartagis> owen1, oh, that yes
[08:29] <owen1> Kartagis: got it
[08:29] <cdrew> actionParsnip, thanks for the help man
[08:29] <tweaker25> Flannel I'm passing the time until I got a response just don't mind about that man
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: np bro
[08:29] <daycreature> Is there anyone who can help me just troubleshoot it, are there any advanced settings for networks i can access through ubuntu that i might be able to solve it, like for instance to check if maybe it's becoming unmarked for automatically obtaining an ip when i attempt to download a torrent, like what could possibly be the cause would help me
[08:29] <owen1> Kartagis: what if i'll copy Inconsolota.otf from /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-liberation/
[08:29] <EEEBull> Hello all! Just stumbled onto Xchat...
[08:30] <moya> ActionParsnip: I don't have localeconf in hardy, what can I do ?
[08:30] <Flannel> tweaker25: Pass the time elsewhere.  This channel is noisy enoughw without your comments.  Also, again, please wait 25-45 minutes between repeating your question.  Peruse other support venues in the meantime.
[08:30] <Kartagis> owen1, you can use it
[08:30] <daycreature> where do i go to change whether or not my ip address is got automatically or not
[08:30] <grawity> owen1: er, you don't need the ttf-liberation/ part.
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> !info localeconf hardy
[08:30] <Kartagis> moya, install it?
[08:30] <libtech> daycreature: network settings
[08:30] <owen1> grawity: i guess it's added if u use aptitude?
[08:30] <grawity> owen1: what is added?
[08:30] <moya> Kartagis: it doesn't exist in hardy, and dpkg-reconfigure -plow locales don't let me choose the default
[08:30] <grawity> daycreature: there's a "network manager" applet next to the clock, right-click it.
[08:30] <tweaker25> how do I make a timer on mirc ?
[08:31] <owen1> grawity: the folder ttf-inconsolata
[08:31] <_yoyo> how to read a txt file in driver
[08:31] <daycreature> then go where grawity
[08:31] <tweaker25> I will put it and leave a message to put responses in my pv
[08:31] <Kartagis> tweaker25, this is #ubuntu dude, not #helpdesk
[08:31] <grawity> daycreature: "Edit Connections"
[08:31] <tweaker25> as a pm ...
[08:31] <_yoyo> mainly read the file to get some data
[08:31] <tweaker25> http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=fr&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.ubuntu-fr.org%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fpid%3D2808462%23p2808462&sl=auto&tl=en&history_state0=
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> !info locales hardy
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> moya: sudo apt-get install locales
[08:32] <CaptainMorgan> tweaker25, -- find an IRC client that uses notifications upon channel tells? I like xchat, for one
[08:32] <Slart> tweaker25: why not just write a post on the ubuntu forums if you're going to do that
[08:32] <daycreature> ok so that's not the problem then
[08:32] <Flannel> tweaker25: Please be a good citizen
[08:32] <grawity> CaptainMorgan: mIRC has that feature too (just not enabled by default).
[08:32] <daycreature> Damn I wish I could download torrents on my linux box
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> CaptainMorgan: pidgin has notify stuff
[08:33] <moya> ActionParsnip: I already have locales installed, the problem is with choosing a default locale
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> !torrent | daycreature
[08:33] <grawity> ActionParsnip: But Pidgin for IRC... not very sane.
[08:33] <CaptainMorgan> grawity, cheers, then s/he can come back when notified -- tweaker25
[08:33] <tweaker25> I'm french is way hard even to be here so been in the forum is way too much, I don't want to be on every linux website of the world ...
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> grawity: its served me all the years i've used linux
[08:34] <grawity> ActionParsnip: Well, if you block freenode-connect and NickServ, then yeah.
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> grawity: yep ;)
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> moya: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=679597
[08:34] <tweaker25> http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=fr&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.ubuntu-fr.org%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fpid%3D2808462%23p2808462&sl=auto&tl=en&history_state0=
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> grawity: and disable those notification things so they dont fill my screen
[08:35] <grawity> ActionParsnip: what notofication things?
[08:35] <daycreature> ubuntu bugs
[08:35] <daycreature> just tells me what i already know
[08:35] <optimus_> #join #maths
[08:35] <daycreature> that it was reclassified, it doesn't say why
[08:35] <optimus_> join #maths
[08:35] <grawity> optimus_: it's /join
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> grawity: its this thing everyone got dead excited about and it drove me insane
[08:35] <daycreature> and i think it's just bots in there
[08:35] <Slart> tweaker25: wait at least 15 minutes, if not more, before repeating your question (that is really annoying since it's a link to an autotranslated post)
[08:36] <optimus_> join #maths
[08:36] <grawity> ActionParsnip: GNOME notification integration?
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> grawity: when someone messages you a little box pops up with the text
[08:36] <lstarnes> optimus_: /join #maths
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> grawity: yeah, so annoying
[08:36] <lstarnes> optimus_: btw, I think you want #math not #maths
 ActionParsnip: But Pidgin for IRC... not very sane.
[08:36] <daycreature> I use x-chat.
[08:36] <grawity> ActionParsnip: funny how everybody liked that when a feature exactly like that appeared in mIRC :)
[08:36] <tweaker25> [03:35] <tweaker25> http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=fr&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.ubuntu-fr.org%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fpid%3D2808462%23p2808462&sl=auto&tl=en&history_state0=
[08:36] <tweaker25> [03:35] <tweaker25> http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2808462#p2808462
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> daycreature: then use it
[08:37] <grawity> tweaker25: ...can you _please_ stop that.
 !torrent | daycreature
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> grawity: mirc has a nag, there are open solutions so i use those
[08:37] <optimus_> lstarnes: thanks
[08:37] <daycreature> I've used three different client they all have simultaneous and consistent incomes
[08:37] <grawity> ActionParsnip: I was speaking about the notifications - shareware nags are irrelevant
[08:37] <daycreature> outcomes*
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> daycreature: "daycreature: Damn I wish I could download torrents on my linux box"
[08:38] <daycreature> please don't tell me to go to another operating system, i like this one.
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> grawity: i never liked them. i dont like any notifications that invade my desktop like that
[08:38] <otter_> hello
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> daycreature: why would we do that?
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> daycreature: weirdest thing i ever heard
[08:39] <grawity> daycreature: Btw, what is the problem, anyway?
[08:39] <otter_> this is my first time using the irc chat !!!!
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> otter_: we'll you're doing great
[08:39] <oldude67> !hi | otter
[08:40] <otter_> thanks ubottu
[08:40] <daycreature> I can't download torrents because it stops my wifi connection (but signal reads fine, 90% constant regardless of if I am connected to it or not), and I cannot reconnect despite the excellent signal, the only remedy being a physical restart of the operating system, after which the connection works fine UNLESS of course i try to resume or start a new torrent download
[08:40] <daycreature> In short I can't download torrents
[08:40] <otter_> i have had ubuntu the os since last year
[08:40] <indus> ubuntu 'the os'
[08:40] <daycreature> (I can, but only if I'm willing to let it download a little, disconnect, reset, download a little, disconnect, reset, tens of times.
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> daycreature: tried restarting networking instead?
[08:40] <daycreature> _
[08:40] <otter_> and i have made my own distro based on it
[08:41] <otter_> who is alesd
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> daycreature: tried restricting your torrent download speed in the app
[08:41] <daycreature> Yes, ActionParsnip, I do nearly every time
[08:41] <daycreature> Yes, and upload.
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> daycreature: so even if yo restrict it to say 20k/s you get no web browsing?
[08:42] <daycreature> Also while the torrents are working I never get speeds higher than say 50kb/s to 300kb/s, but on the windows operating system on torrent downloads I get upwards of 1.8mb/s
[08:42] <otter_> well does any body know how to use dail-up on ubuntu or know how to use the gnome ppp ?
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> !dialup | otter_
[08:42] <daycreature> Yes. If I stop the torrent download completely as well, my connection cannot be re established short of an operating system reset
[08:42] <losher> indus: no teasing the non-native speakers, please...
[08:42] <otter_> i'll try at thanks
[08:43] <otter_> ooops
[08:43] <daycreature> it's as though just the fact that it's downloading a torrent triggers the operating system to refuse to connect
[08:43] <otter_> miss spell
[08:43] <indus> losher: teasing? iam non native too btw
[08:43] <lstarnes> daycreature: have you tried using different programs for torrents?
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> daycreature: does it stop all network connectivity? Can you ping web addresses? Can you run apt-get upgrade etc and the files come down?
[08:43] <indus> losher: i was saying in a way like. he is 'the man'
[08:43] <indus> get it?
[08:43] <otter_> have you ever tried going to my youtube channel pyro012792
[08:43] <geirha> daycreature: Sounds like a problem with the wifi driver to me.
[08:43] <losher> indus: oh, right...
[08:44] <daycreature> lstarnes: Deluge (10+ times), Transmission (15+ times), azureus (20
[08:44] <indus> losher: since iam happy with ubuntu i  said, ubuntu 'the os' ")
[08:44] <daycreature> + times) each attempt on all of them failed conclusively and had the same symptoms
[08:44] <peelmick> sorry about that i got disconnect, still learning
[08:44] <daycreature> How do I fix the wifi driver
[08:44] <lstarnes> daycreature: next time it happens, save the output of dmesg somewhere
[08:44] <daycreature> There is no driver software offered on the site for this for a linux system
[08:44] <daycreature> how do i save that output
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> daycreature: can you do other web stuff, except web browse while torrents run
[08:45] <daycreature> I'm not very apt with operating system functionality
[08:45] <lstarnes> daycreature: in a terminal,  dmesg > file.txt
[08:45] <moymoy> daycreature: `dmesg > dmesg.output
[08:45] <angel_> how I am able to find the IP address for all access points via my router?
[08:45] <daycreature> No I can't do ANYTHING with the web once torrents breaks the connection until I reset
[08:45] <lstarnes> daycreature: you can also look at the output of dmesg directly by running dmesg
[08:45] <otter_> the wifi driver is build in the kernel of the linux
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> angel_: access its web interface and look at the dhcp client list
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> otter_: might be a module ;)
[08:46] <otter_> see you guy later
[08:46] <daycreature> before i download a torrent though, i CAN do anything with the web, I can stream full length movies, download music (html not torrent), watch flash, play java games, anything at all other than torrent
[08:46] <angel_> ActionParsnip: there are some other clients available there, but there is no IP and Mac for the access points?
[08:46] <durt> daycreature, the only thing that I can think of is that your ISP is doing it, with the windows software you might be 'using only encrypted connections', try setting that in your linux torrent apps.
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> daycreature: thos are all in a web browser
 daycreature: you can also look at the output of dmesg directly by running dmesg
[08:46] <daycreature> how do i directly run it
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> daycreature: you are missing the point
[08:46] <lstarnes> daycreature: in a terminal, dmesg
[08:46] <daycreature> yes action, but i can't ping or anything else
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> daycreature: can you ping while torrents run? Can you chat using a chat client while torrents run?
[08:47] <daycreature> or even network locally with the wireless router
[08:47] <lstarnes> daycreature: in retrospect, what I said was unclear
[08:47] <daycreature> it's not "internet connection" ability that's being stopped it's the ability to connect to the wifi network at all
[08:47] <moymoy> durt: daycreature deluge's default configuration is to encrypt everything
[08:47] <daycreature> therefore my computer becomes an island and absolutely cannot communicate with anything outside it at all, if that's what your asking
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> daycreature: thats what i meant, the big list of stuff you can't do is all use in the same browser and you told us that doesnt work, so we needed to know if other apps work which we now know doesnt also.
[08:47] <geirha> daycreature: Have you tried connecting to your router with a cable? Does torrenting kill the network then too?
 daycreature: can you ping while torrents run? Can you chat using a chat client while torrents run?
[08:48] <durt> oh right, buggy router os then?
[08:48] <daycreature> Yes absolutely with no issue
[08:48] <moymoy> daycreature: does it work when you toggle networking on and off?
[08:48] <daycreature> until suddenly
[08:48] <daycreature> it all just cuts off
[08:48] <daycreature> No, toggling does not correct this
[08:48] <daycreature> it is attempted every time, along with router reset
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> daycreature: when it dies, run a terminal and type:   dmesg | tail
[08:48] <daycreature> all failing
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> daycreature: then give us the output
[08:48] <daycreature> i MUST reset if I want to re establish connection
[08:49] <daycreature> ok action
[08:49] <moymoy> you don't need network to do a dmesg
[08:49] <moymoy> daycreature: just give the output after your restart
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> daycreature: in a pastebin of course ;)
 daycreature: Have you tried connecting to your router with a cable? Does torrenting kill the network then too?
[08:49] <daycreature> No, it doesn't, and yes, I've tried it.
[08:49] <Ileden> Hullo! I'm wondering if there's a way to get radeon 9200 working with compiz on Ubuntu 9.04. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver seems to indicate that it is possible, but when following the instructions, one of the commands doesn't give a desired output and I don't know how to proceed. In specific, running "glxinfo |grep vendor" gives multiple lines lines reading "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." How can I proceed?
[08:49] <daycreature> It's only in regards to wifi
[08:50] <durt> daycreature, what wi-fi router?
[08:50] <daycreature> I am going to run the torrent and get disconnected and then reset and give you the output
[08:50] <vlt> Hello. Where can I find out more about yesterday's kernel update (2.6.24-24.55 to 2.6.24.-24.56)?
[08:50] <moymoy> daycreature: don't reset before you do dmesg
[08:51] <daycreature> Link me to the paste bin
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[08:51] <daycreature> I'm going to have two, one is the output while the internet is working
[08:51] <daycreature> the other will be after it crashes
[08:51] <daycreature> so they can be compared
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> daycreature: we only need the lines after the crash
[08:54] <TR0VADOR> what is channel helpers br
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> !br
[08:55] <MrStein> Hi! Is there an install log ? I want to check what options did I chose during installation.
[08:55] <grawity> MrStein: maybe /var/log/installer/ ?
[08:56] <grawity> (I'm not sure because I deleted that on my system.)
[08:56] <Slart> MrStein: check in /var/log/installer/
[08:56] <MrStein> 10x
[08:57] <Ileden> How do I determine which display driver Ubuntu is currently using? lspci only tells what the device itself is, right?
[08:58] <angel_> is there a command to display all available IPs in a network?
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> Ileden: sudo lshw -C display    may say
[08:58] <grawity> angel_: available as in "unused"?
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> angel_: you could write a script to ping IPs and echo to a file what doesnt reply
[08:58] <Slart> angel_: I doubt it..
[08:59] <grawity> nmap -sP, and you'd get the ones that are active.
[08:59] <jumbers> Can somebody recommend an Ubuntu package for webstats OTHER THAN awstats?
[09:00] <ikonia> jumbers: webilizer, there are tons if you search the repo, people like different ones though
[09:00] <daycreature> Right now it's achieving 1.2MB/s download in the torrent, it is likely to soon cut out.
[09:00] <MrStein> Slart, grawity: I can't see anything realted to user choices there. :-(
[09:00] <daycreature> upload speed is 0.0
[09:00] <MrStein> I want to check what timezone I selected during install.
[09:00] <daycreature> it's up to 4.8kiB/s
[09:00] <Slart> MrStein: hmm.. well.. that's the only place I know of for installer logs.. don't know where else to look
[09:01] <daycreature> it's oscillating from 0 to that.
[09:01] <Ileden> ActionParsnip: Thanks. It seems "UNCLAIMED" means there's no display driver active (I assume some generic is being used then), which is as I expected.
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> jumbers: polymon tests sites for connectivity if thats what webstats does
[09:01] <daycreature> down is 1.1MiB/s
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> Ileden: yep, you need to driver up
[09:01] <Guest6708> I installed the ubuntu-restricted-extras package. which included the w32codecs. but i'm still not able to hear the audio of certain wmv files.
[09:02] <TR0VADOR> I am in livecd I lowered ubuntu 9.0.4 I executed sudo apt-get install k3b && eject I placed the empty compact disc but when I go to open k3b it does not open…
[09:02] <moymoy> daycreature: what are you using to download?
[09:02] <Slart> Guest6708: mm.. not all wmv-files can be played on linux..there are still some variants that don't work
[09:02] <moymoy> daycreature: my download speed only seem to oscillate with transmission
[09:02] <daycreature> deluge, this time, but i've tested with the same results transmission and azerurus
[09:02] <angel_> grawity: when I typed nmap-sp it complains for No targets were specified, so 0 hosts scanned.
[09:03] <Dreki> si need a graphical partition manager that can modify partition sizes, reformat partitions, and supports ext4.  anyone know of anything loke that that works well?
[09:03] <grawity> Dreki: gparted?
[09:03] <grawity> angel_: first, it's -sP, and second, you need to specify the subnet to scan.
[09:03] <Slart> Dreki: gparted doesn't do ext4?
[09:04] <Dreki> slart: grawity: i didnt think it did
[09:04] <TR0VADOR> !help
[09:04] <RandomTime> Slart: yes, it does http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
[09:04] <TR0VADOR> I am in livecd I lowered ubuntu 9.0.4 I executed sudo apt-get install k3b && eject I placed the empty compact disc but when I go to open k3b it does not open…
[09:04] <nztal> Dreki, the official gparted iso might do that not sure though
[09:04] <jumbers> ActionParsnip: No, what I mean is a log file analyzer for Apache that makes pretty graphs and such
[09:04] <Slart> Dreki: you can check yourself.. in the view menu, "File system support"
[09:05] <moymoy> Slart: Dreki: the release notes for 9.04 tells of ext4 not being ready for being resized.. it's possible but be prepared for dataloss they say
[09:05] <Kartagis> how many time do I have to ask to get a reply?
[09:05] <Slart> moymoy: ouch...
[09:05] <Kartagis> times*
[09:06] <Kartagis> in System > Preferences > Sound, Sounds tab, I changed the system startup sound, but it still defaults. any ideas?
[09:06] <Slart> Kartagis: sometimes people just don't know the answer to your question..it happens
[09:06] <angel_> grawity: It works now , but there only a few ips listed on the terminal, actually I have lost one of my access point ip , and I couldn't find the ip via the router web application
[09:06] <sonism> TR0VADOR: you can't do that. not while running liveCD...
[09:07] <Guest73979> Wanted instructions and ip address lists for setting up Internet sharing and lan between ubuntu and windows xp
[09:07] <hugo> I've looked around a bit but can't seem to find how I can restart my networking and wireless. When I return from Suspend I, wireless is gone and I can't start it again. I know this is a bug but does someone have a workaround?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> jumbers: i see, no idea then man. sorry
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> hugo: sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart; sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:07] <monk> anyone got 5 mins to help me with a sound issue?
[09:07] <peelmick> window
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> !ask | monk
[09:08] <hugo> thanks I'll try it:)
[09:08] <monk> i dont have any sound, i think its an intel chipset
[09:08] <monk> i have alsa and oss installed
[09:08] <monk> everything is set to max aswell
[09:09] <Guest73979> wanted to know how to set up lan and internet sharing over ethernet ports between ubuntu and winxp comps
[09:09] <Slart> !ics | Guest73979
[09:10] <koshari> Guest73979 internet sharing should be dont in the router
[09:10] <TR0VADOR> As I make to record a ISO of ubuntu that I lowered using Livecd…
[09:10] <grawity> koshari: Linux systems are often used as routers.
[09:10] <Guest73979> koshari, my router is malfunctioning.. i have two ethernet cards... so thought i'd share internet this way
[09:11] <Guest73979> ubottu, thanks. i'll check it...
[09:11] <koshari> grawity granted but not normally by people enquiring how to share a connection
[09:11] <grawity> Xubuntu question. In Xfce, where do I choose the keyboard layouts?
[09:11] <Guest73979> Slart, sorry i didnt quite catch that.
[09:11] <error404notfound> can som one help me with : http://pastebin.com/m4ad4f491 ?
[09:11] <Slart> Guest73979: ah.. it was just a command to make the bot (ubottu) tell you about Internet Connection Sharing.. or ics for short
[09:12] <Slart> Guest73979: saves me from typing the whole thing.. there are many such commands.. !ics is one.. you can type !bot to get some usage info for example
[09:12] <Guest73979> Slart, gotcha.. i'm seeing that link.
[09:12] <joshua__> another Xubuntu question, is there a package repository management applet like the one in GNOME?
[09:12] <gabkdlly> grawity: there is a GUI for this in the settings manager
[09:12] <TR0VADOR> As I make to record a ISO of ubuntu that I lowered using Livecd…
[09:12] <c_nick> i want to find out the covariance matrix of a 5x1 column vector
[09:13] <L33Thaxor666> WHATS up fellow ubuntu..ers
[09:13] <Slart> joshua__: synaptic is available for xfce as well as ubuntu
[09:13] <write2copy> hello, does anyone have any experience with clonezilla?
[09:13] <Slart> c_nick: scilab ?
[09:13] <Slart> c_nick: a matlab clone.. you can try octave too
[09:13] <L33Thaxor666> anyone here use a wacom?
[09:13] <L33Thaxor666> i need me gimp to work
[09:13] <anirban> I am able to view files using FTP for my home directory. But unable to add/moify files. How to do it ?
[09:14] <tmba> Hi guys, I'm looking for some help for changing a dependency of a deb package. Basically I have this proprietary package which has a dependency on an old version of a library. I know it works with newer versions of the library (because I installed it manually using dpkg). However, I'd like to not have apt-get continually complaining about the dependency, so am thinking of changin the dependency using ... equivs? I tried looking for tutorial online, but not muc
[09:14] <c_nick> i want to understand the logic behind that.. understand the maths
[09:14] <grawity> joshua__: Xfce usually just uses the GNOME apps - "Software Sources" is software-properties-gtk, Synaptic is 'synaptic'
[09:14] <gabkdlly> grawity: there is also a panel item that you can add that does keyboard layout
[09:14] <Slart> c_nick: then you're in the wrong channel.. this is ubuntu support.. perhaps there is a ##math channel or something
[09:15] <L33Thaxor666> what math..let me try
[09:15] <Flannel> tmba: Try #ubuntu-motu instead
[09:15] <L33Thaxor666> OK
[09:15] <c_nick> Slart: ##math only 2 ppl.. one not talking :P
[09:16] <grawity> gabkdlly: thanks, I found it
[09:16] <L33Thaxor666> Im trying to install me wacom drivers but the first thing they want is CD wacomdriver?
[09:16] <Slart> c_nick: mm.. perhaps on another server then.
[09:16] <TR0VADOR> As I make to record a ISO of ubuntu that I lowered using Livecd…
[09:16] <L33Thaxor666> should i make that folder?
[09:16] <zipito> good day
[09:16] <L33Thaxor666> where should it be made, if it indeed needs to be made?
[09:16] <zipito> I've upgraded too kde4.3rc
[09:17] <zipito> and
[09:17] <zipito> now I can't here any sound :(
[09:17] <dragon_> !enter | zipito
[09:17] <L33Thaxor666> http://twodayslate.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/wacom-tablet-in-ubuntu/
[09:17] <L33Thaxor666> c
[09:18] <L33Thaxor666> cd?
[09:18] <zipito> dragon_, ok..   I'm using kde4.3 RC2 on ubuntu 9.04 and I can't here any sound :(
[09:18] <dragon_> zipito: that's better.
[09:18] <anirban> I am able to view files using FTP for my home directory. But unable to add/moify files. How to do it ?
[09:18] <L33Thaxor666> need top sign in
[09:18] <L33Thaxor666> to*
[09:18] <dragon_> anirban: is your home directory on an ftp server?
[09:18] <zipito> How can I make the sound appear? or how can I rollback to kde 4.2 ?
[09:18] <philipp_> i am trying to install ipodlinux on my ipod
[09:19] <dragon_> zipito: how did you upgrade?
[09:19] <philipp_> but i get an error message from the installer
[09:19] <philipp_> FATAL: Your iPod could not be found. Please make sure that it's connected
[09:19] <philipp_>        to your PC and that your OS can access it. If you have a macpod,
[09:19] <philipp_>        you cannot use this installer.
[09:19] <FloodBot3> philipp_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:19] <anirban> dragon_ : Obviously ... On ProFTPD
[09:19] <error404notfound> any help regarding c http://pastebin.com/m4ad4f491 i am in a deadlock situation.
[09:19] <L33Thaxor666> YOU GUYS ARE SO SMART...and handsome
[09:19] <dragon_> !ot > L33Thaxor666
[09:20] <zipito> I've added deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/experimental/ubuntu jaunty main    deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main  and made apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:20] <philipp_> hello? anyone help me?
[09:20] <dragon_> anirban: It's not so obvious. In fact, I haven't heard a single case ever in which home directory lies on a remote ftp server. I think the terms are mixed up.
[09:20] <L33Thaxor666> !ot> dragon
[09:20] <zipito> dragon_, I've added deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/experimental/ubuntu jaunty main    deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main  and made apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:20] <dragon_> L33Thaxor666: what do you want?
[09:20] <philipp_> FATAL: Your iPod could not be found. Please make sure that it's connected
[09:20] <philipp_>        to your PC and that your OS can access it. If you have a macpod,
[09:20] <philipp_>        you cannot use this installer.
[09:20] <L33Thaxor666> i cant get this wacom thing figured out
[09:21] <dragon_> !repeat > philipp_
[09:21] <L33Thaxor666> http://twodayslate.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/wacom-tablet-in-ubuntu/
[09:21] <anirban> dragon_ : Ya my home directory is on the FTP server
[09:21] <L33Thaxor666> http://twodayslate.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/wacom-tablet-in-ubuntu/
[09:22] <L33Thaxor666> why is line one cd?
[09:22] <L33Thaxor666> what directory?
[09:22] <dragon_> zipito: I'm finding a way. But I'm sure it'd start with removing that PPA...
[09:22] <L33Thaxor666> OHH
[09:22] <L33Thaxor666> cd in windows is not that same as ubuntu is it
[09:22] <joshua__> Is there a GTK style update manager for XFCE or do I have to install the gnome one to get a GUI?
[09:22] <zipito> dragon_,  commented them  and trying update & dist-upgrade doesn't work
[09:23] <zipito> and what happened with ubuntuforums.org ? It simply doesn't work - DATABASE ERROR
[09:23] <grawity> joshua__: Xfce usually uses GNOME's tools, most of which you can install separately. Try update-manager
[09:23] <L33Thaxor666> ya
[09:23] <Xubuntnoob> yea, what zipito said
[09:23] <joshua__> thanks
[09:23] <L33Thaxor666> i gots thats 2
[09:23] <dsdeiz> how do you disable the screen turning off in a time of inactivity through the terminal? :D
[09:24] <grawity> joshua__: Oh, and update-notifier.
[09:24] <dragon_> zipito: check this out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto
[09:24] <anirban>  How to give a linux group write and modify permission ?
[09:24] <dragon_> dsdeiz: screensaver inhibitor applet in gnome
[09:24] <dragon_> anirban: chmod g+w filename
[09:25] <dsdeiz> dragon_: can i do it through the terminal :D
[09:25] <L33Thaxor666> 60 (Operation timed out))
[09:25] <L33Thaxor666> * Sonderbla (n=fsd@194-236-14
[09:25] <dsdeiz> like is there a config file to edit?
[09:25] <L33Thaxor666> bash: cd: linuxwacom: No such file or directory
[09:25] <Ileden> I'm trying to get a driver active for my Radeon 9200 using the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver, but I'm having no luck. I've completed all the steps in the guide, including editing xorg.conf, but I'm still getting no driver. How should I proceed troubleshooting the issue?
[09:25] <L33Thaxor666> GRR
[09:25] <dragon_> dsdeiz: gnome-screensaver-command -i
[09:25] <L33Thaxor666> whaTS BASH MEAN?
[09:26] <L33Thaxor666> ILL BASH UR FACE
[09:26] <genii> L33Thaxor666: Bourne Again SHell
[09:26] <dragon_> dsdeiz: for more options - `gnome-screensaver-command --help`
[09:26] <dragon_> !troll | L33Thaxor666
[09:26] <dsdeiz> dragon_: got it
[09:26] <L33Thaxor666> DRAGON IS HIGH ON POWER
[09:26] <Paddy_NI> !caps
[09:27] <Flannel> L33Thaxor666: Er, please stop that.
[09:27] <dsdeiz> dragon_: i get this ** Message: Screensaver is not running!
[09:27] <jussi01> L33Thaxor666: please respect others in here.
[09:27] <philipp_> Your iPod could not be found. Please make sure that it's connected to your PC and that your OS can access it. If you have a macpod,  you cannot use this installer.
[09:27] <yaboo> hi having flash issues in 9.04, trying to load the website http://wechoosethemoon.org and keeps stating I need to install flash 10, done so, but keeps stating flash 10 not installed, even thou it is, whats the issue please
[09:28] <RandomTime> yaboo: firefox?
[09:28] <philipp_> i have some problems with installing ipodlinux on my ipod
[09:28] <Paddy_NI> yaboo: have you closed all instances of firefox?
[09:28] <dragon_> dsdeiz: then you need to set the power settings accordingly. Go to System > Preferences > Power Management
[09:28] <Slart> yaboo: are you using noscript?
[09:28] <write2copy> My situation is that I want to backup an image to my external USB HDD. So I started clonezilla like normal, but it would not mount my USB HDD when choosing the destination drives, hence I went into command line and mounted it manually. But now... I'm stuck in the CLI and can't seem to get back to clonezilla normal interface... help? :p
[09:28] <dragon_> !flash | yaboo
[09:28] <dsdeiz> dragon_: errr, not currently using gnome btw
[09:29] <c0mp13371331337> Are the forums down for everyone else, or is it just me (as usual)?
[09:29] <dragon_> dsdeiz: makes sense.   Thanks. ;-)
[09:30] <L33Thaxor666> isnt ubuntu suppose to have installs?
[09:30] <daycreature> it auto installed the codecs but still doesn't play
[09:31] <L33Thaxor666> restart the program?
[09:31] <Paddy_NI> !details | L33Thaxor666
[09:31] <koshari> daycreature its not a permission issue is it?
[09:31] <yaboo> !Restricted
[09:32] <tomoyuki28jp> What's the command to install openoffice? I manually deleted it. (I wanna do that with "apt-get install")
[09:32] <dragon_> error404notfound: looks like your system cannot find `awk`
[09:32] <djiezes> daycreature: what mediaplayer? Totem? Try VLC and/or Mplayer.
[09:32] <yaboo> !Gnash
[09:32] <error404notfound> dragon_, awk snt there, tried "which awk" and i can't install it due to an interrupted install
[09:33] <dragon_> error404notfound: try `sudo apt-get install mawk`
[09:33] <L33Thaxor666> I have a problem with wacom drivers. I'm running Ubuntu version newest. When I try to do what they tell me. I get the following output: bash: cd: linuxwacom: No such file or directory.but I expected it to do wonderful things
[09:34] <error404notfound> dragon_, E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[09:34] <yaboo> ok all went to the ubuntu restricted website, installed all the flash plugins, still no joy
[09:34] <Ileden> My previous display card (GeForce 6600) died on me, and I'm now trying to get an alternative card working. However, I cannot activate the open source "ati" driver for my Radeon 9600, even by using the online Ubuntu/ATI guide. How can I proceed to get the free driver active?
 daycreature: what mediaplayer? Totem? Try VLC and/or Mplayer.
[09:34] <daycreature> are these in the add/remove or do i need to go their respective sites to get the software
[09:34] <L33Thaxor666> i need more asian friends i think
[09:34] <dragon_> yaboo: did you restart firefox after installing flash? which flash package did you install?
[09:34] <Dreki> i would like to find some good speech recognition software for linux
[09:35] <djiezes> daycreature: in add/remove, install both vlc player & smplayer.
[09:35] <yaboo> dragon_ yes I did
[09:35] <djiezes> daycreature: whenever I have problems with totem not correctly playing a video, one of these does the job perfectly.
[09:36] <dragon_> yaboo: what do you see when you visit a website with flash?
[09:36]  * error404notfound is stuck on http://pastebin.com/m4ad4f491
[09:36] <yaboo> dragon_ http://www.wechoosethemoon.org keeps telling me to install flash 10
[09:37] <dragon_> yaboo: have you turned javascript off by any chance?
[09:37] <yaboo> javascript off as in firefox preferences
[09:38] <yaboo> dragon_ turned javascript off no joy still
[09:39] <dragon_> yaboo: javascript has to be ON. A plugin like noscript could turn javascript off and cause trouble.
[09:39] <yaboo> ok dragon_ will turn javascript back on
[09:39] <dragon_> yaboo: what do you see when you go to http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/
[09:40] <yaboo> dragon_ switched javascript back on, no joy still
[09:41] <dragon_> error404notfound: seems like initramfs-tools is required for ubuntu desktop. Are you running a different flavor/version? Ubuntu server?
[09:42] <richardcavell> Hey, guys, the ubuntuforums.org website is not working for me. Do you have the same problem?
[09:43] <dragon_> richardcavell: yes, it's down.
[09:43] <daycreature> vlc is such a legit movie player
[09:43] <daycreature> it will even attempt to fix broken .avi's for you
[09:43] <richardcavell> dragon_: Okay. Any idea when it's coming back?  I need to lock a thread I maintain on the forums.
[09:44] <joshua__> I love vlc :D
[09:44] <Slart> richardcavell: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ubuntuforums.org
[09:44] <djiezes> daycreature: so it worked? btw, smplayer is pretty neat too
[09:44] <Flannel> richardcavell: They may know in #ubuntuforums
[09:44] <Slart> richardcavell: good link when you're in doubt =)
[09:44] <richardcavell> Slart: I didn't know that one!
[09:48] <Ileden> What's the policy on how long I should keep repeating a question here? :)
[09:48] <maxagaz> how to check if my computer is intel or amd ?
[09:49] <dragon_> Ileden: try rephrasing your question each time until someone who knows the answer finds you ;)
[09:49] <Flannel> Ileden: 20-30 minutes is a good rate.  Gotta have new people wake up, etc.  You can peruse the forums and the wiki in the meantime (except the forums are apparently down at the moment)
 daycreature: so it worked? btw, smplayer is pretty neat too
[09:49] <owh> maxagaz: Why do you need to know?
[09:49] <daycreature> Nah it determined that the avi streaming was broken and offered to fix it
[09:49] <dragon_> maxagaz: grep lm /proc/cpuinfo
[09:49] <daycreature> currently it's fixing the indexing and it's at 3%
[09:49] <dragon_> maxagaz: if you see any output, it's amd
[09:50] <genii> maxagaz: lshw -C cpu
[09:50] <PSiL0> Is there a patch for ATI's Catalyst drivers for kernel 2.6.29?  I know slackware and arch has it
[09:51] <pisse> Hi! Anyone here who can help me to install Savage 2? Or maybe knows some other channel for this? Everything goes according to this: http://phorolinux.com/how-to-install-savage-2-a-tortured-soul-on-linux.html THEN read comment #6 cause I've got the same problem
[09:51] <Ileden> draogn_, Flannel: Thanks, I'll try! My browser is running hot on the background browsing for answers from other sources. :)
[09:51] <timClicks> hi all - boot problem - experimented with splashy. When I went back to usplash by reinstalling the package through apt-get, the boot menu still calls /sbin/splashy
[09:52] <timClicks> how do I manually change the boot script to load usplash?
[09:52] <leaf-sheep> !usplash | timClicks
[09:53] <timClicks> leaf-sheep: thanks - will investigate
[09:56] <timClicks> leaf-sheep: thanks, /boot/initrd... updated
[09:56] <leaf-sheep> timClicks: Awesome.  You rock.
[09:57] <ViRii> much love
[09:58] <owen1> ubuntuforums are down?
[09:58] <porter> hi, is ubuntu the most "on_the_edge" debian at the moment?
[09:59] <richardcavell> porter: what do you mean by on the edge?
[09:59] <porter> richardcavell: in the sense of SID
[09:59] <Garp> Hi.
[09:59] <quibbler> owen1-> yes
[10:00] <richardcavell> porter: Sid as in the debian distro?
[10:00] <owen1> quibbler: please bring them back
[10:00] <Garp> Question: How can I get back to KDE-3.5 under Jaunty ? Thanks
[10:00] <moymoy> owen1: are you joking?
[10:00] <porter> i need a very modern debiansed distro and i'm not sure if that would be ubuntu sidux or some other distro
[10:00] <quibbler> owen1-> :0....:)
[10:00] <owen1> how to tell ubuntu to load slim as login manager?
[10:01] <dragon_> porter: Ubuntu is pretty stable.
[10:01] <bullgard4> Do other Linux distributions use a similar program as 'System_Testing' {Enter: i.) System > Administration > System_Testing; ii.) /usr/bin/checkbox-gtk.} also?
[10:01] <owen1> moymoy: quibbler is the web master of ubuntu forums.
[10:01] <porter> richardcavell: dragon_ i need a very modern debiansed distro and i'm not sure if that would be ubuntu sidux or some other distro
[10:01] <leaf-sheep> !kde3 | Garp
[10:01] <koshari> porter debian unstable is a rolling release and prolly the latest practical release
[10:01] <porter> stability is not an issue for my purpose
[10:01] <Flannel> porter: I suggest debian.
[10:01] <Dayofswords> question, for the install "ubuntu inside windows" option when you insert the disk  when running windows, when you uninstll it does it also remove the option to load ubuntu at startup, i'm guessing so but bro freaks out when things are changed
[10:01] <moymoy> owen1: do `sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm` and you should be able to choose whatever to log in with from there
[10:02] <Garp> ubottu: thanks.
[10:02] <lvlefisto> i am using gcrontab to schedule a zenity alert like this: /usr/bin/zenity --question --text "¿some text here?". The problem is it doesn't show up.
[10:02] <vlt> Hello. Where can I find out more about yesterday's kernel update (2.6.24-24.55 to 2.6.24.-24.56)?
[10:02] <richardcavell> porter: I don't understand your question
[10:02] <owen1> moymoy: thanks
[10:02] <porter> Flannel: thanks for letting me know, there are many debian out there
[10:02] <porter> richardcavell: sorry, i rephrase :
[10:02] <Garp> ubottu: ... The ISO are fine for a new install, but I would prefer some apt repository. I'll have a look...
[10:02] <Flannel> porter: debian testing or debian unstable, depending on how "edgy" you want to be.
[10:02] <koshari> porter there are really only 3,
[10:02] <jpds> owen1: quibbler isn't the master of the forums.
[10:02] <owen1> moymoy: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: gdm is broken or not fully installed
[10:03] <jpds> owen1: And I've poked someone who can fix it.
[10:03] <moymoy> owen1: if you don't have gdm, then kdm or whichever one you're using right now
[10:03] <owen1> jpds: is it php? if it's ruby i can help
[10:03] <jpds> owen1: Yes.
[10:03] <porter> richardcavell: i am looking for a very uptodate modern, "the most  edgy" debianised distro to fool around, stability is absolutely no issue
[10:03] <Garp> ubottu: OK? I found it, thanks.
[10:03] <sloW`> http://www.squiby.net/level/461319
[10:03] <Flannel> porter: debian unstable is what you're looking for then.
[10:03] <porter> Sid
[10:04] <porter> thought so
[10:04] <owen1> moymoy: thanks, i don't know what i have. it's alternate CD, but i installed xfce as well.
[10:04] <billing_> sawe
[10:04] <porter> now, there are many knoppix sidux ubuntu etc .... which is "the most edgy" one?
[10:04] <richardcavell> porter: Debian unstable is the latest usable distro, or debian testing is the most unstable and bleeding edge
[10:04] <Flannel> porter: debian.
[10:04] <moymoy> owen1: hold on.. lemme find out what it is for xfce
[10:04] <owen1> moymoy: i think gdm
[10:04] <Flannel> richardcavell, porter: testing is more stable than unstable.
[10:04] <richardcavell> porter: Ubuntu is derived from Debian. If you want bleeding edge, go to debian.
[10:04] <moymoy> owen1: but dpkg just said you didn't have gdm?
[10:05] <richardcavell> Flannel: Yep sorry
[10:05] <owen1> moymoy: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: gdm is broken or not fully installed
[10:05] <Dayofswords>  for the install "ubuntu inside windows" option when you insert the disk  when running windows, when you uninstll it does it also remove the option to load ubuntu at startup, i'm guessing so but bro freaks out when things are changed
[10:05] <Flannel> Dayofswords: Yes
[10:05] <Dayofswords> ok thank you
[10:05] <porter> ok, then let me ask this : whats the diff between Sid and Ubuntu?
[10:05] <owen1> moymoy: it say it's broken
[10:05] <porter> in terms of "edgy"
[10:05] <richardcavell> porter: They're not directly comparable
[10:06] <richardcavell> porter: But sid would be the most edgy
[10:06] <porter> i guess ubuntu is more edgy than Sid
[10:06] <samsol> hi...is there any way to put/create shortcut of my winxp vdi image on desktop?
[10:06] <koshari> porter sids a rolling release, ubuntu releases are snapshots
[10:06] <jpds> porter: No.
[10:06] <Flannel> porter: Ubuntu is much more stable.  It's packages are much older.
[10:06] <porter> Ah!
[10:06] <jpds> porter: sid is what we take and make Ubuntu out of.
[10:06] <porter> ok, guys, now i got it
[10:06] <owen1> moymoy: should i install it? is it the default for xfce?
[10:06] <porter> thanks a bunch
[10:06] <moymoy> owen1: you're right, it does use gdm .. well either do a dpkg-reconfigure on the package you want to use as your login or reinstall gdm to dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[10:06] <porter> Sid it is then
[10:06] <jpds> "Ubuntu - stable Debian unstable".
[10:07] <moymoy> owen1: yup, it's default for xfce .. reinstall it then do what i first said to do
[10:07] <porter> last Q: whats the diff between sidux and Ubuntu?
[10:07] <Flannel> jpds: Isn't it debian testing?
[10:07] <leaf-sheep> samsol: Right-click on VDI Image --> Make link ?
[10:07] <owen1> moymoy: ok
[10:07] <richardcavell> Flannel: Yeah, debian testing
[10:07] <Dayofswords> on the instal inside windows, when you choose "c:\" as the install location, is it going to be like "c:\ubuntu" or something similar?
[10:07] <jpds> Flannel: No.
[10:07] <samsol> leaf-sheep: ok i'll try that now
[10:07] <leaf-sheep> Dayofswords: WUBI?
[10:07] <jpds> Flannel: We sync packages straight from Debian unstable.
[10:07] <moymoy> Dayofswords: yup.. something like that... your brother doesn't that either?
[10:08] <richardcavell> jpds but Ubuntu doesn't use the unstable versions of the packages, surely, in most cases?
[10:08] <Dayofswords> if i uninstall it in the like 10 days he doesnt use, i'd be fine
[10:08] <moymoy> Dayofswords: and don't worry about clutter.. because the install should just all be in one file because it's a virtual environment
[10:08] <porter> ok, thanks again guys, /me waves
[10:08] <moymoy> Dayofswords: but why do you want a wubi install? it's much slower
[10:09] <grawity> moymoy: I don't think it's any slower.
[10:09] <Fox_1_1> hi all
[10:09] <Dayofswords> i just want to fiddle with it, but not worry about partioning  and what not
[10:09] <moymoy> grawity: it'll be sitting right in a fragmented NTFS partition
[10:09] <Dayofswords> and unstall later
[10:10] <moymoy> Dayofswords: i see..
[10:10] <leaf-sheep> Dayofswords: Ubuntu is an OS, not an application.
[10:10] <Dayofswords> the installer says it slower, so i'm guessing its slower
[10:10] <moymoy> leaf-sheep: he's talking about the wubi install
[10:10] <leaf-sheep> moymoy: I know.
[10:11] <leaf-sheep> I don't think WUBI should exist today, but unfortunately. :)
[10:11] <moymoy> Dayofswords: the reason it's slower is because the virtual ubuntu environment will be sitting right in a windows NTFS partition.. and that partition is most likely heavily fragmented
[10:11] <grawity> moymoy: but it's a single contiguous file
[10:11] <Flannel> leaf-sheep: There's absolutely nothing wrong with wubi.
[10:11] <Dayofswords> moymoy: slower is fine, i'm just bored and want to try some stuff here
[10:12] <bullgard4> Do other Linux distributions than Ubuntu use a similar program as 'System_Testing' {Enter: i.) System > Administration > System_Testing; ii.) /usr/bin/checkbox-gtk.} also?
[10:12] <moymoy> Dayofswords: it's good that you're experimenting though
[10:12] <Fox_1_1> people when I'm watching video by VLC sometimes my screen is stopping, I mean everything stops only mouse moving, but I couldn't do anything. Also the video sound is working too. Any idea?
[10:13] <Dayofswords> i also want to see if it even works here, the live version always failed to startup
[10:13] <nsadmin>  some do some don't
[10:13] <moymoy> Fox_1_1: your system hangs when using vlc? can you shutdown or anything?
[10:13] <quibbler> owen1-> forums are up!
[10:13] <Cybertinus> moymoy: hi. remember me?
[10:13] <dragon_> Dayofswords: Does the liveCD fail with an error message?
[10:13] <owen1> quibbler: good job! thank you so much
[10:13] <moymoy> Dayofswords: if the liveCD doesn't work, it usually indicates some hardware incompatibility, that's what the livecd is for anyway.
[10:14] <Fox_1_1> yes, hangs, no I can't do anything
[10:14] <quibbler> owen1-> you are welcome
[10:14] <moymoy> Cybertinus: hey Cybertinus, how's the Eee PC?
[10:14] <Cybertinus> moymoy: I was the gui with the not-starting X yesterday. And then a lot of other bad things started to happen
[10:14] <Cybertinus> moymoy: I found the problem. My RAM is dead :'(
[10:14] <moymoy> Cybertinus: how can i forget you? you're the last person i spoke to before sleeping
[10:14] <moymoy> Cybertinus: well at least RAM is cheap =p
[10:15] <joakimk_> Is 128MB ram, 930MHz (pentium III) sufficient to run Ubuntu 8 or 9?
[10:15] <dragon_> Cybertinus: If you see anything on screen, your RAM is most probably NOT dead.
[10:15] <dragon_> !requirements | joakim
[10:15] <joakimk_> I'm having trouble with install (live) cd's. The install process freezes after a short while
[10:15] <dragon_> !requirements | joakimk_
[10:15] <genii> joakimk_: 256 is minimum
[10:15] <moymoy> Cybertinus: it's possible to replace RAM in an eee PC right?
[10:16] <joakimk_> ok
[10:16] <Cybertinus> dragon_: then the RAM is really dead if you don't see anything. But I ran memtest86. It filled my screen with errors within 5 seconds, so the RAM isn't working that well :p
[10:16] <genii> joakimk_: You can get away with 128 (JUST) in Xubuntu but not in regular Ubuntu or in KDE
[10:16] <joakimk_> genii: I see. Thanks!
[10:16] <genii> joakimk_: You're welcome
[10:16] <BABER> how can compile a c program? i use this command gcc -o 1.c   is this right?
[10:16] <Cybertinus> moymoy: yeah, it is easily replacable. It runs on ordanary DDR2-667 SO-DIMM
[10:16] <grawity> BABER: gcc -o name name.c
[10:17] <dragon_> Cybertinus: that makes more sense.
[10:17] <Fox_1_1> moymoy: I couldn't move any window or click somewhere. But6 when I opening editor and typing and if in that moment it hangs and I'm continuing typing after backing there is my text in editor
[10:18] <om26er> here i want some help. i replaced xfwm4 with metacity and now the theme is changed to ubuntu clear looks but i  cannot open the window manager to change theme
[10:18] <BABER> grawity: i use this command gcc -o test.c but this error appear  gcc:no input file
[10:19] <moymoy> Fox_1_1: what are you using as your video output in VLC? i usually have it set to xv or opengl ... but now i use Mplayer and i'm much more pleased
[10:19] <grawity> BABER: ...read my message again.
[10:19] <buyanet> salutare
[10:19] <Fox_1_1> Video output it Default
[10:20] <moymoy> Fox_1_1: i really don't know what your problem is.. does it only happen when using vlc?
[10:20] <error404notfound> any help for http://pastebin.com/m4ad4f491 ?
[10:20] <Fox_1_1> yes
[10:20] <error404notfound> sorry i as away, i might have missed messages, and i cant scrollup as the page gets clear.
[10:21] <moymoy> Fox_1_1: might be a problem with X .. have you looked in the log files?
[10:22] <Fox_1_1> which output is better?
[10:22] <BABER> grawity: is this right? http://www.binpaste.com/v.php?id=jc7x8
[10:22] <Fox_1_1> XVideo extension video output?
[10:23] <moymoy> Fox_1_1: i liked to use openGL because i imaged better quality when actually it wasn't.. but you can give that a shot instead of the default
[10:23] <Blizzerand> Is it possible for me to update from Jaunty to Karmic
[10:23] <grawity> BABER: no, it's not. You didn't specify the file name you want to #include
[10:23] <Flannel> Blizzerand: Yes.  See #ubuntu+1 for details (Karmic isn't stable)
[10:23] <bullgard4> Blizzerand: Not  to be recommended.
[10:23] <grawity> error404notfound: install gawk.
[10:24] <Blizzerand> But is it possible
[10:24] <grawity> error404notfound: wait, I see...
[10:24] <grawity> error404notfound: have you tried installing awk from http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/gawk ?
[10:24] <moymoy> Blizzerand: yes it's possible, but a lot of things will be broken probably
[10:25] <Blizzerand> Nah this is an old PC.
[10:25] <moymoy> Blizzerand: okay then.. xD so it's okay for you to experiment with it
[10:26] <moymoy> Blizzerand: bring up the prompt with ALT+F2 .. and i think it was `update-manager -d`
[10:26] <Flannel> Blizzerand: /join #ubuntu+1 and read the topic.  There may be special instructions.
[10:26] <om26er> which is a good font for very small size
[10:26] <Blizzerand> moymoy : Yep .  This even runs Fedora 12 rawhide
[10:26] <om26er> an1 tell me plz
[10:27] <AdvoWork> hi there. for some reason my syslog, mail.log and mail.info logs keep going up a fair bit. about an hour ago they were 66mb, now there 97mb, this keeps going until they get to about 4gig and then the server gets clogged up. it seems like theyre being filled up with stuff from postfix(as we run a mail server). Anything I can do?
[10:29] <Slart> AdvoWork: you could disable logging but that's not really recommended.. you could also start logging to a remote computer with more diskspace.. or rotate the logs more often (they should compress nicely)
[10:29] <moymoy> Blizzerand: did you get the command i sent you?
[10:29] <Blizzerand> Yes
[10:29] <Blizzerand> And thanks
[10:29] <moymoy> Blizzerand: and i wish i had an old machine to play with.. i hate when i mess my only computer up
[10:29] <moymoy> Blizzerand: no problem
[10:30] <Blizzerand> moymoy : lol
[10:30] <tmba> moymoy: try using virtualbox
[10:30] <alexidoia> I am looking for to import a pdf into open office, with Picture from file I get the code of the PDF not the visual
[10:30] <moymoy> tmba: i do use it now xD
[10:31] <tmba> moymoy: so mess up the virtual boxes, instead of your main machine  :)
[10:32] <moymoy> just realized... IRC exposes your real IP to everyone in the channel.. good?
[10:32] <Slart> alexidoia: pdf's aren't really designed to be imported into openoffice.. except in some very special cases
[10:33] <jrib> !cloak | moymoy
[10:33] <biouser__> where would the latex-beamer documentation be for the latex-beamer that was installed by the package manager?
[10:33] <leaf-sheep> moymoy: Not me. :O
[10:34] <jrib> biouser__: try: dpkg -L latex-beamer
[10:34] <Amo__> hi, i'm trying to set up a samba share on my local network. samba logs are : http://pastebin.com/d68dbe1e6
[10:34] <moymoy> leaf-sheep: was just curious and did a /whois on myself
[10:34] <Amo__> if someone could help me it'll be great
[10:34] <jrib> !samba > Amo__
[10:34] <jrib> Amo__: not sure if that's helpful, but it should contain complete instructions
[10:34] <biouser__> sweet jrib, way to teach a man to fish!
[10:35] <leaf-sheep> moymoy: You can register an account that way you can reserve your nickname 'moymoy' and obtain a cloak to protect yourself.
[10:35] <leaf-sheep> !register | moymoy
[10:35] <Amo__> thanks jrib , but i alreday followed this kind of tutorials on ubuntu-fr.org
[10:35] <leaf-sheep> moymoy: Wow.  Chicago! :X
[10:35] <majnoon> moo
[10:35] <FxFx> hi all
[10:36] <jrib> Amo__: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:36] <FxFx> is it possible to have paltalk running under ubuntu?
[10:36] <Amo__> jrib: 9,04
[10:36] <Ongavezerke> hi all. which file contains the IP-s of the nameservers?
[10:36] <moymoy> leaf-sheep: rofl!
[10:36] <jrib> Amo__: does the "nobody" user exist?
[10:36] <Slart> Ongavezerke: /etc/resolv.conf
[10:36] <Ongavezerke> thanks a lot
[10:36] <Amo__> jrib:  in my /etc/passwd i get : nobody:x:65534:65534:nobody:/nonexistent:/bin/sh
[10:36] <moymoy> leaf-sheep: dangit, you're cloaked
[10:37] <clank> question: why is my system broadcasting on the local subnet to udp/8765?
[10:37] <leaf-sheep> moymoy: First order of business, get yourself cloaked.  Put the pause on Ubuntu.  Learn little more about commands in #freenode and FAQ.
[10:38] <jrib> Amo__: can you pastebin more context about your setup and what you are doing?
[10:38] <moymoy> do i /nickserv to register?
[10:38] <Amo__> jrib: like my smb.conf ?
[10:38] <jrib> moymoy: see ubottu's link :)
[10:38] <jrib> Amo__: yes
[10:38] <sowjendra> how setup video chat software for yahoo in ubuntu
[10:38] <dragon_> moymoy: /query nickserv help
[10:38] <dragon_> sowjendra: what protocol? MSN? Yahoo?
[10:38] <sowjendra> yahoo
[10:39] <dragon_> sowjendra: kopete is a good option.
[10:39] <phoenixrizen> hello
[10:39] <sowjendra> can i have all my yahoo ids in kopete ?
[10:39] <dragon_> sowjendra: yes
[10:40] <inshion> hello everyone
[10:40] <dragon_> !hi
[10:40] <sowjendra> dragon:can i have any autocad software in ubuntu
[10:40] <Amo__> ther (http://pastebin.com/d503be041) you'll find my smb.conf, i'm trying to set up home dir shares on my local network; mainly to exchange file between windows computers
[10:40] <Amo__> jrib
[10:41] <dragon_> sowjendra: not sure. You can try running the windows version on Ubuntu using 'wine' though.
[10:42] <sowjendra> dragon : ofcourse .. we can but we don't want to make any paid software .. so i hv asked for any alternate .. and more over i hv some dwg files
[10:42] <bullgard4> Do other Linux distributions than Ubuntu use a similar program as 'System_Testing' {Enter: i.) System > Administration > System_Testing; ii.) /usr/bin/checkbox-gtk.} also?
[10:43] <dragon_> !qcad | sowjendra
[10:43] <dragon_> grr
[10:43] <dragon_> !info qcad | sowjendra
[10:43] <leaf-sheep> sowjendra: Using Windows apps in Windows?  You could wine, Dualboot or VirtualBox.
[10:43] <leaf-sheep> sowjendra: Check this --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuScience#Engineering%20Sciences
[10:43] <dragon_> bullgard4: i don't think they do. How would Ubuntu folks know about this anyways? ;)
[10:44] <jrib> Amo__: with the caveat they know next to nothing about samba, the comments in smb.conf suggest that "valid users =%S" would cause that behavior of not allowing the user "nobody" to connect, right?  Have you tried connecting using your username?
[10:44] <sowjendra> can i open autocad files in qcad ?
[10:44] <Amo__> jrib: yes, i tried to connect from my mac with<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:44] <jrib> Amo__: then pastebin the error log for that
[10:45] <bullgard4> dragon_: Some ubunteros have a wider overview than others.
[10:45] <Amo__> jrib: http://pastebin.com/d68dbe1e6
[10:45] <leaf-sheep> sowjendra: You have Ubuntu installed
[10:45] <jrib> Amo__: but that doesn't make sense right?  It's rejecting a login attempt by "nobody"
[10:45] <dragon_> bullgard4: Quite possible
[10:45] <Amo__> jrib:  i know :'(
[10:46] <sowjendra> yes i have .. right now i am in ubuntu itself
[10:46] <Amo__> jrib: looks like he systematically connect with "nobody"
[10:46] <jrib> Amo__: have you tried temporarily commenting that option to see what happens?
[10:46] <leaf-sheep> sowjendra: Install the package and see if you can open it.
[10:46] <sowjendra> ok thank u i will do that ..
[10:46] <Amo__> jrib: i'm gonna do so
[10:46] <ciphergoth> I'm trying to VNC from one Jaunty machine to another with vino/vinagre. I can connect and see the screen; the display doesn't update when I type, but if I disconnect and reconnect then I can see that my keystrokes were received.  Anyone got any ideas?
[10:47] <sowjendra> i have windows mobile .. i was making use of my mobile camera as webcam through xp .. is there any similar type of provision in ubuntu
[10:48] <bernardlychan> hi
[10:48] <sowjendra> or any software to install and make use of mobile camera as webcam
[10:48] <nsadmin> if the hardware of the camera is supported, you can probabnly get it going
[10:48] <leaf-sheep> sowjendra: http://t.webofgoo.com/2008/11/01/convert-autocad-dwg-files-to-dxf-in-ubuntu-use-qcad-to-edit-them/
[10:48] <bernardlychan> somehow, i accidentally disabled pidgin running in the background. anyone know how to enable it again?
[10:48] <leaf-sheep> sowjendra: Seems like you need to convert the DWG.  I recommend you make the backup of your original DWG file.
[10:48] <sowjendra> thank u leaf-sheep
[10:48] <bernardlychan> me?
[10:49] <bernardlychan> o rite
[10:49] <bernardlychan> somehow, i accidentally disabled pidgin running in the background. anyone know how to enable it again?
[10:49] <dabukalam> hi all, my grub won't boot into ubuntu. it gives me "Error 11: Unrecognized device string". I can boot into windows fine, and I can see the ubuntu partition fine through a live disc.
[10:49] <leaf-sheep> bernardlychan: Look in Preferences?
[10:49] <bernardlychan> ?
[10:49] <bernardlychan> ok... i'm a noob though lol
[10:49] <bernardlychan> thx
[10:49] <nsadmin> dabukalam: can you get to the grub shell?
[10:49] <leaf-sheep> bernardlychan: Pidgin Preferences.  Should have... option for Icon /Task Manager.
[10:50] <bernardlychan> thanks leaf-sheep
[10:50] <thecat> hi
[10:50] <dabukalam> nsadmin, you mean does it boot into grub?
[10:50] <Amo__> jrib: i do not have logs any more ...
[10:50] <jrib> Amo__: and you still cannot connect?
[10:50] <Amo__> jrib: still not
[10:50] <leaf-sheep> bernardlychan: System Tray Icon.  (If you already found it).
[10:50] <nsadmin> dabukalam: yes, and can you get to the shell too :)
[10:51] <moymoy> leaf-sheep: i'm to ask a staffer to cloak me?
[10:51] <leaf-sheep> moymoy: Yes. In #freenode
[10:51] <leaf-sheep> moymoy: Assuming you did register a nickname, confirmed your email, etc.
[10:51] <richardcavell> Can I ask: Could there ever be a downside to running /etc/init.d/bluetooth stop && /etc/init.d/bluetooth start?
[10:51] <nsadmin> if you know what partition is your / and your /boot and which kernel you want to boot, you can do it... do you have a separate machine you can irc on?
[10:51] <ciphergoth> so in other words I can click on a menu or type somethign, but I have to disconnect and reconnect to see the result!
[10:52] <sowjendra> leaf-sheep : i have windows mobile .. i was making use of my mobile camera as webcam through xp .. is there any similar type of provision in ubuntu
[10:52] <nsadmin> if the hardware of the camera is supported, you can probabnly get it going
[10:52] <jrib> Amo__: should you uncomment ";[homes]"?
[10:52] <leaf-sheep> richardcavell: You could use /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart instead.  You're attempting to restart/stop/start a service. No downhill.
[10:52] <dabukalam> nsadmin: i'm on a sepeate machine :)
[10:53] <richardcavell> leaf-sheep: The stop & start was in a script I saw. I don't know why it doesn't use restart
[10:53] <moymoy> leaf-sheep: yup, registered
[10:53] <nsadmin> ok, when you boot the machine do you see a grub menu?
[10:53] <dabukalam> nsadmin, could it have something to do with which partition is labelled boot?
[10:53] <dabukalam> yup
[10:53] <sowjendra> thank u all for the answers..
[10:53] <dabukalam> nsadmin: and i can get into windows fine
[10:54] <richardcavell> leaf-sheep: Sometimes when you suspend and resume a MacBook the bluetooth service hangs, so you stop it and start it and it seems to work again - it's a script that runs when you thaw
[10:54] <nsadmin> ok, boot the machine, and as soon as you get the menu, move the menu item so it doesn't time out
[10:54] <dabukalam> done
[10:54] <nsadmin> now read the text... it should tell you how to get to the shell... once you do, you should see GRUB>
[10:55] <Amo__> jrib: nothing more
[10:55] <dabukalam> i'm in the old grub
[10:55] <dabukalam> oh ok, in the CLI now
[10:55] <nsadmin> ok, cool.
[10:56] <nsadmin> let's see... type root (
[10:56] <jrib> Amo__: try #samba, they'll know better how to troubleshoot
[10:56] <nsadmin> don't hit enter
[10:56] <nsadmin> hit tab
[10:56] <Amo__> jrib: ok, thx for all
[10:56] <aimtrainer> hi! Does anyone have any experience wih muliple monitors? I have a dual screen setup and I want my lcd tv to be no 3. I'm going to buy 2 nvidia dual dvi pcie cards which support sli. Is it a problem to set this up or does work out of the box.. or not at all?
[10:56] <nsadmin> does it show you what choices you have? maybe hit tab again
[10:57] <dabukalam> it fills it with root (hd0,
[10:57] <moymoy> !xinerama > aimtrainer
[10:57] <dabukalam> when i hit tab again it gives me a list of partitions
[10:57] <nsadmin> ok, so hd0 is your only drive
[10:57] <dabukalam> yup
[10:57] <aimtrainer> thanks moymoy
[10:57] <nsadmin> and one of those partitions is your / partition
[10:57] <dabukalam> i could have told you that ;)
[10:58] <moymoy> aimtrainer: no problem =p
[10:58] <nsadmin> yes, but you wouldn't be learning the grub shell right now :)
[10:58] <dabukalam> yeah, i think that's my ubuntu one
[10:58] <dabukalam> nsadmin, true, true
[10:58] <nsadmin> so you have one partition for ubuntu?
[10:59] <nsadmin> which one is it in grubspeak? (hd0,what?)
[10:59] <richardcavell> Another question: If I do sudo modprobe -r appletouch && sudo modprobe appletouch, could that ever cause any harm? Whether or not the person has the appletouch kernel modules installed?
[10:59] <dabukalam> i have a windows recover partition for vista, an ubuntu partition, a storage partition, a windows 7 partition, and a swap partition
[10:59] <dabukalam> dunno, i can boot into gparted live or ubuntu live to check though
[11:00] <dabukalam> the listed partition give me 5
[11:00] <dabukalam> 0
[11:00] <dabukalam> 0 1 2 3 4 5
[11:00] <nsadmin> well you don't have to do that... let's trial-and-error...
[11:00] <nsadmin> let's guess 3
[11:00] <dabukalam> 0 1 and 5 is unknown, 0 and 1 are 0x7, 2 and 4 are 0x83 and 5 is 0x82
[11:00] <nsadmin> so make it read: root (hd0,3) and hit enter and see what it says
[11:00] <dabukalam> there is no 3
[11:01] <dabukalam> my bad
[11:01] <nsadmin> ok
[11:01] <dabukalam> 0 1 2 4 5
[11:01] <dabukalam> 2 and 4 are also ext2fs
[11:01] <nsadmin> so 2 and 4 are the choices,,, they are the 83s, the 82 is the swap
[11:01] <nsadmin> try 2
[11:01] <dabukalam> (apparantly). although i'm sure jaunty is ext3
[11:02] <dabukalam> okay
[11:02] <samay> hey all
[11:02] <samay> anybody aware of proftpd ?
[11:02] <niadh> I have had to replace the motherboard in this system, luckyly it boots the system fine but is there a command I should run to ensure the system has more accurate drivers?
[11:02] <progre55> hi people! my cpu (acpitemp) is 65C. what can I do in order to cool it down? well, except turning the comp off or blowing into the cpu :-D
[11:02] <nsadmin> now try: kernel /boot/vm (hit tab)
[11:02] <nsadmin> dont hit enter yet
[11:02] <dabukalam> i made it root (hd0,2) and pushed enter, and nothing happened. probably because that's my storage partition and doesn't have any bot info
[11:03] <dabukalam> okay
[11:03] <nsadmin> it won't boot, we're just setting a placeholder grub has called root
[11:03] <nsadmin> chickyhip!
[11:03] <dabukalam> pushed tab, it gave me error 15: file not found
[11:03] <samay> hey.. can anyone tell me how to add user in proftpd
[11:04] <bayer> hi there, i'm running ubuntu jaunty, and i want to install an older lib (libftdi.so.0) - whats the easiest way to achieve this, and can i run it in parallel to libftdi.so.1?
[11:04] <dabukalam> shall i try root (hd0,4)?
[11:04] <moymoy> samay: the users that proftp adds are basically the users on the OS .. you can even "import" a user .. to do that, click the import button
[11:04] <niadh> bayer: Usually newer libraries take precedence over olders ones and I don't think you can run parrallel libs
[11:04] <nsadmin> no, stay with 2 for now... did you hit enter on the root command?
[11:05] <dabukalam> yeah
[11:05] <samay> moymoy, Thanks... I did try that.. but it didnt help :(
[11:05] <nsadmin> ok, did it say ext2 etc?
[11:05] <dabukalam> nope
[11:05] <samay> moymoy, Me still not able to figure out why this is happening
[11:05] <miha> who actually develops linux flash player? that piece of ***** animates things even when tabs are hidden... and news sites just love to put many animated commercials... i didnt see such problem on windows ... so which noob is repsonsible for this?
[11:05] <dabukalam> didn't say anything, just took me to a new line
[11:05] <nsadmin> hmm.
[11:05] <moymoy> samay: what's happening?
[11:05] <nsadmin> ok, we'll go with it for now...
[11:05] <miha> if i open more than 3 articles, i usually have to kill firefox
[11:05] <samay> i added a new user using useradd command
[11:05] <nsadmin> try this:
[11:05] <samay> also changed the password
[11:05] <grawity> miha: Get AdblockPlus.
[11:06] <nsadmin> kernel /boo (then hit tab)
[11:06] <samay> but when i try to login, it does work
[11:06] <nsadmin> does it complete to boot?
[11:06] <dabukalam> nope, error 15
[11:06] <moymoy> samay: it does work.. and the problem is?
[11:06] <nsadmin> ok, we'll try the other partn
[11:06] <nsadmin> root (hd0,4)
[11:06] <dabukalam> enter?
[11:07] <nsadmin> yep
[11:07] <samay> moymoy, The problem is with login
[11:07] <dabukalam> no info, no errors, just a new line
[11:07] <samay> when i try connecting via FTP
[11:07] <samay> i get connected
[11:07] <nsadmin> ok, try:
[11:07] <samay> but authentication fails
[11:07] <dragon_> !enter | samay
[11:07] <nsadmin> kernel /boo (tab)
[11:07] <dabukalam> yup, it completes
[11:07] <moymoy> samay: oh .. in the user tab, you have to type in the password for the user and click apply, then activate the server
[11:08] <nsadmin> make it look like: kernel /boot/vm   then hit tab
[11:08] <dabukalam> progre55: run less processes on your CPU, or buy some better cooling. make sure both your case and CPU are being cooled...
[11:08] <samay> moymoy, Didnt get u
[11:09] <miha> thx for the one saying about adblock plus... it's slightly better
[11:09] <dabukalam> nsadmin: gives me 4 possible files vmcoreinfo..., vmlinuz..., vmlinuz..., and another vmcore...
[11:09] <miha> but still linux flash player is crap
[11:09] <dabukalam> different kernels
[11:09] <nsadmin> you want one of the vmlinuzes
[11:10] <anirban>  I am getting error 550 while I am trying to modify/delete/add files using FTP.
[11:10] <dabukalam> 2.6.28-11-generic and 2.6.28-12-generic
[11:10] <dabukalam> which one?
[11:10] <sergey_> Hi guys. Are there any chances to see FF3.5 and OOo3.1 in the karmic?
[11:10] <nsadmin> hmm, the later one, the 12
[11:10] <dabukalam> enter/
[11:10] <dabukalam> ?
[11:10] <nsadmin> they're both the same kernel version so maybe either is fine
[11:10] <nsadmin> no
[11:10] <moymoy> samay: there's an "Apply" button to click before your settings take effect .. you can set the password right in proftpd
[11:10] <sima> help, i did ZOOM  in GNOME , how do I do Unzooom? !!
[11:11] <dragon_> !ff3.5 | sergey_
[11:11] <samay> moymoy, Me not using a GUI
[11:11] <dabukalam> okay, it's ready and T-counting
[11:11] <moymoy> sergey_: FF3.5 is already in the 9.04 repos
[11:11] <sima> Super key+5 don`t react. 8.04 here
[11:11] <nsadmin> actually get rid of this line for now, I want to see the device.map
[11:11] <moymoy> samay: i see.. but i can't see why you can't log in.. ... have you tried logging in to that user using `su` or through gdm?
[11:11] <nsadmin> try this: cat /boot/grub/device.map
[11:12] <niadh> How'd you reinstall the kernel after replacing a broken motherboard?
[11:12] <nsadmin> what does it say hd0 is?
[11:12] <samay> moymoy, Yes
[11:12] <dabukalam>  /dev/sda
[11:13] <sima> my screen is ZOOMED in Gnome, how do I do Unzoom without restart?
[11:13] <dabukalam> hd1 is /dev/sdb
[11:13] <nsadmin> ok, and this 4 must be /dev/sda5
[11:13] <nsadmin> so there is a second drive
[11:13] <dabukalam> nope
[11:13] <moymoy> samay: can you confirm that your server is running? and what browser/client are you trying to log in from?
[11:13] <error404notfound> grawity, thanks, that worked, and sorry for this long delay, i was away fixing a picnic.
[11:13] <sergey_> moymoy, dragon_ thanks, I know it's available for 9.04. I meant the 9.10 defaults. I'm playging with yesterday 'daily-live' image and here is FF<IP_ADDRESS> and OOo3.0. Though I know that DebianImportFreeze phase is finished at 25th June.
[11:13] <dabukalam> that's what's wierd
[11:13] <nsadmin> there used to be?
[11:13] <samay> moymoy, I did try using root login and password
[11:13] <samay> well
[11:13] <sergey_> maybe it is a question for ubuntu-devel...
[11:14] <nsadmin> it doesnt' matter that much I guess... but yes it's weird
[11:14] <dabukalam> no second drive. uhh, no, i mean, i've booted off an external drive many times, USBs, external HDDs, etc.
[11:14] <dragon_> sergey_: It is there by default in karmic. For karmic questions, #ubuntu+1 is the best place.
[11:14] <samay> moymoy, I am working on ubuntu jaunty on my computer and the server is Ubuntu 8.10
[11:14] <dabukalam> it's a laptop
[11:14] <sima> So, I should probably hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, since Gnome Unziim funcion with Super+5  on 8.04 Don`t work//?
[11:14] <moymoy> samay: just type in the user used by proftpd
[11:14] <taba> hello all
[11:14] <moymoy> samay: no need to log in with root
[11:14] <nsadmin> so the root partition is /dev/sda5
[11:15] <nsadmin> so here's your kernel line:
[11:15] <dabukalam> how do you know that the root is sda5?
[11:15] <sergey_> thanks for the support, guys,  I haven't seen a question w/o an answer here. you rock
[11:15] <samay> moymoy, I tried that
[11:15] <taba> newbie question po
[11:15] <samay> moymoy, thanks anyways..
[11:15] <nsadmin> kernel /boot/vmlin(tab)12 ro root=/dev/sda5
[11:16] <samay> moymoy, Do u want me to send the passwd file ?
[11:16] <moymoy> samay: =\ .. weird because i set up my server just earlier today, albeit i cheated and used a gui
[11:16] <moymoy> samay: but i did the same as you `adduser` .. and it worked
[11:16] <taba> trying to connect using citrix need help
[11:16] <dabukalam> nsadmin: how do you know that the root is sda5? (just for learning purposes)
[11:16] <richardcavell> sergey_: what is 00o3.1?
[11:16] <moymoy> samay: but i also had `--disabled-password` and `disabled-login` for my ftp user
[11:16] <samay> moymoy, what is the difference between adduser and useradd ?
[11:17] <sergey_> richardcavell, OpenOffice.org
[11:17] <samay> moymoy, I did useradd
[11:17] <nsadmin> well we know the drive in grubspeak is hd0
[11:17] <richardcavell> sergey_: ok
[11:17] <richardcavell> Ubuntu forums are down
[11:17] <nsadmin> we searched around for the root partition, found it at hd0,4
[11:17] <moymoy> samay: they do the same thing, but different distros might use different commands.. in ubuntu it happens to be adduser
[11:17] <anirban> I am getting error 550 while I am trying to modify/delete/add files using FTP.
[11:17] <richardcavell> But I found a great hi-res picture of a Ferrari F430 on the Internet that is now my desktop background
[11:17] <nsadmin> grub is zero-based, so you have to add one to the partition
[11:18] <dabukalam> oh yeah, and everything is one behind, because there's no 0,0
[11:18] <nsadmin> so that's really something5
[11:18] <dabukalam> okay cool
[11:18] <dragon_> moymoy, samay: adduser is a wrapper around useradd, and adduser performs some extra operations.
[11:18] <nsadmin> the something is in device.map
[11:18] <samay> oh.. thanks dragon.. didnt knew
[11:18] <rottcodd> when I connect my ipod I'd like gtkpod to start, where can I set that option?
[11:18] <nsadmin> so try that kernel line
[11:19] <dabukalam> okay
[11:19] <dabukalam> i put it in and pushed enter
[11:19] <nsadmin> and?
[11:19] <dabukalam> didn't get an error
[11:19] <dabukalam> so i assume that's a good thing
[11:19] <nsadmin> it's supposed to read it in...
[11:19] <dabukalam> now i'm leaving shell and trying to boot ubuntu
[11:19] <nsadmin> ok, let's try to get the initrd now
[11:19] <nsadmin> wait
[11:19] <dabukalam> ok
[11:19] <nsadmin> first do this:
[11:20] <nsadmin> initrd /boot/initrd (tab)
[11:20] <dragon_> !enter | nsadmin
[11:20] <taba> anyone knows how to use citrix in ubuntu
[11:20] <dabukalam> what's initrd? i'm guessing vmlinuz is an image which the machine boots into, but what is initrd?
[11:20] <nsadmin> dragon_: I can't really do that and be interactive at the same time; you're going to have to bear with me
[11:20] <owen1> how to use console login instead of xdm/gdm/slim?
[11:21] <dragon_> nsadmin: no problem, it wasn't specifically for you anyways.
[11:21] <moymoy> dragon_: i see that now.. xD just read up on useradd =p
[11:21] <nsadmin> vmlinuz is the kernel, the initrd is an INITial Ram Disk image which is stored kernel modules necessary to mount /
[11:22] <bernardlychan> i want to extract these files somewhere, and it says i dont have the permissions to extract the files there. Does anyone know how to edit the user permissions? sorry im a n00b
[11:22] <dabukalam> nsadmin: oh cool that makes sense. then it just boots the files
[11:22] <clank> bernardlychan: chmod
[11:22] <bernardlychan> ?
[11:22] <bernardlychan> what's that?
[11:22] <nsadmin> yeah, so did the tab work on the initrd?
[11:23] <dabukalam> nsadmin, initrd gives me 2 possible files, 11 and 12
[11:23] <nsadmin> pick the initrd that matches the kernel version
[11:23] <nsadmin> 12
[11:23] <nsadmin> is the match
[11:23] <dabukalam> yup, then what?
[11:23] <clank> bernardlychan: it's a command. you could also just right-click on the file i think
[11:23] <nsadmin> then hit enter
[11:23] <clank> properties, permissions
[11:23] <moymoy> rottcodd: go edit nautilus' preferences and go to the `media` tab .. it'll let you run a certain program whenever you insert media
[11:23] <bernardlychan> hey guys what's chmod?
[11:23] <nsadmin> why it's not loading these thing, I dunno... something's different
[11:24] <Dulak> bernardlychan: change mode, to change file permissions
[11:24] <bernardlychan> ok
[11:24] <bernardlychan> thanks
[11:24] <dabukalam> okay, same, no info, no error, just moves on to another blank line (maybe some sort of verbose mode isn't enabled??)
[11:24] <nsadmin> maybe
[11:24] <nsadmin> try boot
[11:24] <nsadmin> type: boot, and hit enter
[11:24] <dabukalam> just "boot" then enter?
[11:24] <dabukalam> ok
[11:25] <dabukalam> LOVELY. It's booting
[11:25] <nsadmin> so now you have a small introduction to the grub shell
[11:25] <anirban> I am getting error 550 while I am trying to modify/delete/add files using FTP.
[11:25] <nsadmin> and
[11:25] <dabukalam> grub 101
[11:26] <nsadmin> you know how to boot your os
[11:26] <dabukalam> okay
[11:26] <nsadmin> I mean, I think the grub shell is the coolest thing in the world :)
[11:26] <NickDeNeger> anirban, the FTP user don't have rights to write
[11:26] <nsadmin> next to Jessica Alba that is
[11:26] <dabukalam> haha grub fetish?
[11:26] <dabukalam> now how do i reflect those changes in menu.lst?
[11:27] <nsadmin> is it booting all the way?
[11:27] <dabukalam> yup
[11:27] <dabukalam> i'm at my desktop
[11:27] <nsadmin> well ok.
[11:27] <dabukalam> (home sweet home) i was getting bored of windows 7
[11:27] <dabukalam> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[11:27] <moymoy> dabukalam: did you quickly find that nothing was new? =p
[11:28] <nsadmin> try update-grub as root
[11:28] <areels> ubuntu is ready to be real alternative to windows, just need a good synch between applications
[11:28] <nsadmin> I need a good synch so I can wash muh hands!
[11:29] <Gorlist> is their a program that will shutdown PC at a set time, however allow for 15 minute exstensions (office pc to stop someone from working)
[11:29] <dabukalam> moymoy: i disagree, nothing is new on the outside, but there is a huge performance improvement, and it feels a lot more snappy. not ubuntu-snappy, but at least it doesn't look like an undeveloped fetus in comparison to ubuntu
[11:29] <Gorlist> I know I can enter a cronjob, but not the same
[11:29] <anirban> NickDeNeger : How to give them rights ?
[11:29] <gambi> i'm trying to route my vmware vnc through my ubuntu server to the real network but can't figure out whats wrong with my iptables. here is the iptables i'm right now using: http://paste.ubuntu.com/219663/
[11:30] <dabukalam> nsadmin, okay, but i already tried that from the live disc and from super grub to no avail
[11:30] <nsadmin> but now you're booted into your own system; it should work
[11:31] <gambi> those iptables are always a big f***ing riddle ... could some one have a look please, I'm kinda lost on. :)
[11:31] <dabukalam> nsadmin, it gives me "install the package maintainer's version" "keep local version" and some other options. which one?
[11:31] <Boohbah> gambi: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[11:31] <gambi> Boohbah: 1
[11:31] <nsadmin> hmm?
[11:31] <Boohbah> gambi: good
[11:31] <gambi> :D
[11:31] <nsadmin> it's asking this about what?
[11:31] <dabukalam> grub-update
[11:32] <nsadmin> confused right now
[11:32] <AdvoWork> How do i go about rotating/compressing or something'ing my log files? specifically syslog, mail.log, mail.info
[11:32] <dabukalam> i went with the package maintainers
[11:32] <gambi> Boohbah: vnc server is running on 6900 cuz i can telnet into it: telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 6900
[11:32] <nsadmin> wait, waht did you do tho?
[11:32] <iceroot> AdvoWork: man logrotate
[11:32] <anirban>  NickDeNeger : How to give them rights ?
[11:33] <dragon_> anirban: give rights to whom?
[11:33] <dabukalam> nsadmin: i just realised it was telling me that i have previously modified grub manually, and it wants to know if it should restore the default or keep my changes. i selected default
[11:33] <anirban> dragon_ : The FTP users to modify/add files.
[11:33] <nsadmin> ohh
[11:34] <dabukalam> nsadmin: after looking at menu.lst i'd like to know what an entry called "Chainload into GRUB 2" means?
[11:34] <dragon_> anirban: do they have enough rights to make the change locally?
[11:34] <joejc> do the forums run on ubuntu server?
[11:34] <nsadmin> there must be a new grub somewhere on your system?
[11:34] <Dulak> I just converted my sister's laptop to ubuntu, all my family is running linux now, no more windows support!
[11:35] <dabukalam> nsadmin: yeah i previously tried to install grub 3
[11:35] <anirban> dragon_ : I don't think so... The files are showing they are owned by root !!
[11:35] <dabukalam> nsadmin, i think i succeeded but it failed to fix my problme
[11:35] <dabukalam> !chainload
[11:35] <dabukalam> darn
[11:35] <moymoy> dabukalam: rofl.. that was exactly what i thought when i first used ubuntu .. but it's exactly that undeveloped fetus look that makes ubuntu so recognizeable ... i went to a Japanese marken out in the suburbs, and i noticed that their cash registers used Ubuntu .. the window took the whole screen, but i recognized the human theme
[11:35] <dragon_> anirban: they need to be modifiable locally.
[11:35] <dragon_> anirban: man chown
[11:36] <fjurc> :j #debian
[11:36] <dabukalam> moymoy: if it wasn't for active directory, windows would have died out ages ago
[11:36] <nsadmin> try update-grub
[11:37] <dabukalam> nsadmin, i already did that, remember?
[11:37] <AdvoWork> hmm, logrotate must already be working because ive got say syslog.0 etc etc, so if logrotate is doing its job, what else can i do? my log files are getting massive. for mail.log ive got mail.log.0 which was done 6 days ago by the looks of it :S
[11:37] <suzanne> hi there. I use Ubuntu 9.04 and I have no sound anymore.
[11:37] <joejc> do the forums run on ubuntu server?
[11:37] <dragon_> !sound | suzanne
[11:37] <dabukalam> moymoy: but windows 7 is a definite improvement, and if microsoft keeps working, i see some potential by windows 15/16
[11:38] <suzanne> I had a 'null output (pulseaudio)' sound device but not now
[11:38] <nsadmin> dabukalam: ok, now cross your fingers and reboot the machine
[11:38] <dabukalam> nsadmin: fingers crossed. toes crossed.
[11:38] <moymoy> dabukalam: i haven't tested windows 7 myself, but i've heard too many mixed reviews to really believe anything
[11:38] <dragon_> AdvoWork: did you check /etc/logrotate.conf and /etc/logrotate.d/ ?
[11:39] <nsadmin> suzanne: I guess you could try alsaconf (why pulseaudio?)
[11:39] <dragon_> dabukalam: lol nice one
[11:39] <loeiz> hi
[11:39] <dragon_> moymoy: you should try windows 7
[11:39] <dabukalam> moymoy: try it. you have nothing to lose
[11:39] <dabukalam> moymoy: you shouldn't give your own reviews on something from simply what you've read
[11:39] <dragon_> moymoy: it's a good idea to know  your enemy ;)
[11:39] <loeiz> is there some clone program of the windows program that index everything, even the contents and metadata of file ?
[11:39] <dabukalam> nsadmin: marry me
[11:40] <loeiz> locate doesn' index the content
[11:40] <dragon_> loeiz: google desktop?
[11:40] <jrib> loeiz: tracker, beagle, ...
[11:40] <joejc> do the forums run on ubuntu server?
[11:40] <loeiz> dragon_, yes but another one :à)
[11:40] <loeiz> jrib, ok thanks
[11:40] <dabukalam> nsadmin: IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:40] <jrib> loeiz: tracker should be installed by default
[11:40] <nsadmin> why? don't you think our friends-with-benefits relationship fills your needs? :)
[11:40] <AdvoWork> dragon_, its set to weekly, change that to daily?
[11:40] <loeiz> jrib, ok :)
[11:40] <nsadmin> dabukalam: ok, reboot again and try booting win
[11:41] <dabukalam> nsadmin: :P:D maybe you're right.
[11:41] <dabukalam> nsadmin: in the process
[11:41] <dragon_> AdvoWork: It depends. You can even change it to desired max size.
[11:41] <dabukalam> nsadmin: it works.
[11:42] <nsadmin> good :) we're done :)
[11:42]  * dabukalam feels like a child who has just been given a hug and some candy
[11:42] <moymoy> dabukalam: dragon_: already downloading =p .. now all i have to do is compile my virtualbox module D; .. i'll do that when i'm not messing with "galaxy"
[11:42] <AdvoWork> dragon_, i might change to daily and see how that goes. do i need to reload anything once i change weekly -> daily?
[11:43] <nsadmin> I have that effect on people...
[11:43] <dabukalam> nsadmin: haha :D thanks a lot
[11:43] <moymoy> dangit.. i keep forgetting the ubuntuforums are down
[11:43] <dabukalam> nsadmin: now i have another question
[11:43] <dragon_> AdvoWork: i think there's nothing to reload..
[11:44] <dabukalam> windows this time
[11:44] <nsadmin> a windows question?
[11:44] <dabukalam> yep
[11:44] <nsadmin> well I don't guarantee candy and flowers here...
[11:44] <dragon_> !windows | dabukalam
[11:44] <dragon_> :D
[11:44] <moymoy> give it a shot anyway
[11:44] <olinuxx> bye
[11:44] <dabukalam> i'm using ext2fsd to try and read the partitions, but i can't. it worked fine when i had vista on it.
[11:45] <nsadmin> oh, so this is a windows driver for ext2?
[11:45] <nsadmin> which probably doesn't work on win 7
[11:45] <dragon_> dabukalam: did you have ntfs-3g?
[11:46] <dabukalam> dragon_:it's jaunty. doesn't that come with 3g as default?
[11:46] <dragon_> dabukalam: it does
[11:46] <NickDeNeger> jaunty has 3g by default yes
[11:47]  * dragon_ is falling asleep on the keybd
[11:47] <dabukalam> it sees the disks, and mounts them, but it doesn't read them or let me access them. and when i try to open them, it asks me if i'd like to format. and i reply " format yourself"
[11:48]  * dabukalam slaps dragon_
[11:48]  * dragon_ growls!
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> dabukalam: you mount partitions not disks
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> dabukalam: can you provide a pastebin of the output of:   mount
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[11:49] <lf4> If I wanted to leave a message for another user on the same system what do people recommend? I was thinking maybe the write or wall commands. Would that work if they are not logged in?
[11:49] <dabukalam> actionparsnip: sure i'll just reboot into ubuntu
[11:50] <nsadmin> lf4: maybe email works at least locally
[11:50] <avelldiroll> Hello, do any of you use torque/pbs or gridengine? I realized today that they both appeared on the repository. I use to install them from source/binaries. Do you know if the packages come with a default config? I guess I should install them an see for myself though
[11:51] <lf4> nsadmin: true
[11:51] <nsadmin> avelldiroll: all debian packages are installed in two phases... an unpack phase and a configure phase...
[11:52] <vlt> Hello. Where can I find out more about yesterday's kernel update (2.6.24-24.55 to 2.6.24.-24.56)?
[11:52] <koshari> fretsonfire randomly resizing window during game, any suggestions?
[11:52] <moymoy> might be compiz releated
[11:52] <nsadmin> what's a fretsonfire?
[11:53] <koshari> guitar hero clone
[11:53] <avelldiroll> nsadmin, I know thanks ... but those are job managers that may handle clusters or workstation ... my question was if anybody knew to what point the config process of those packages goes ...
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> nsadmin: its awesome
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> koshari: i'd side with moymoy. are you running compiz?
[11:53] <nsadmin> what controller does it use?
[11:53] <nsadmin> can I use my fretless bass?
[11:54] <koshari> ActionParsnip *tick*
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> nsadmin: keyboard by default but proper guitar hero controllers can be used with a little love
[11:54] <avelldiroll> nsadmin, fretsonfire is a clone game of guitar hero
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> koshari: then turn off compiz and try it again
[11:54] <koshari> nsadmin it uses f1-f5  but you can map to whatever you want, people are making guitars out of kids toy ones for it
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> nsadmin: default keys are F1 to F5 for frets and enter to 'strum'
[11:55] <nsadmin> what songs do they have for it
[11:55] <dabukalam> actionparsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/219673
[11:55] <Nhawdge> Hey all, I'm looking for a solution to make the command "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" shorter
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> koshari: have you tried the mfh mod. it helped me lots
[11:55] <Drknezz> Hi, Anyoe knows how can i resize a squashfs file?
[11:55] <pratik_narain> nsadmin: how to play fof on a laptop where i cant invert the keyboard
[11:55] <avelldiroll> Nhawdge, make an alias of it
[11:55] <dabukalam> nhawdge, make a bash file and create a shortcut?
[11:55] <koshari> ActionParsnip whats it do?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> dabukalam: ok cool, not seeing a great lot there. Can you provide the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[11:56] <nsadmin> pratik_narain: I never played it before
[11:56] <swilkinson> i have a compro videomate c200 and i can see it when i lsusb but how do i know what /dev is it?
[11:56] <Nhawdge> avelldiroll: dabukalam I am specifically looking for something I saw a while ago, looked like sudo apt-get {update|upgrade} but I don't know where to look for that
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> koshari: try using different display settings, and/or a higher/lower framerate
[11:56] <dabukalam> actionparsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/219675
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> koshari: i use the mfh version which doesnt actually need frets on fire installed
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> dabukalam: nice one :). Ok so which partition do you want access to?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> koshari: i also recommend you switch off compiz and try the game again
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> koshari: compiz is a massive PITA and breaks tonnes of stuff
[11:58] <dabukalam> actionparsnip: from windows 7 i need access to both the ubuntu and storage partitions, which happen to both be ext3. i meant to make the storage one FAT32, but i must have forgotten, it's too late now, i already have too much valuable stuff on there to change
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> dabukalam: you can get read and write access to ntfs using ntfs-3g
[11:59] <sash_> Nhawdge:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/219676/ call it upgrade.sh, put it in yout /home/$USER, chmod +x it and use it on the terminal by tiping ./upgrade.sh
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> dabukalam: fat32 isnt robust enough, nor does it support > 4Gb file size so no DVD iso
[11:59] <koshari> ActionParsnip prolly true but 99% of the time i have cube rotate mapped to the thumbstick on my logitech rev and scale mapped to the top button
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> koshari: that'll do it
[11:59] <dabukalam> actionparsnip, i'm aware of that. i want access to ext3 FROM windows not the other way around
[11:59] <koshari> ActionParsnip so the fofix is a rewrite?
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> dabukalam: you can use http://www.fs-driver.org
[11:59] <Nhawdge> sash_: Thanks for that, but it's not actually what I am looking for, that is more of the easiest example I have for it
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> koshari: its a mod that folks do, theres loads
[12:00] <Drknezz> Hi, Anyoe knows how can i resize a squashfs file?
[12:00] <dabukalam> actionparsnip, does it work in windows 7? i already have ext2fsd installed and it doesn't work
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> dabukalam: then you can read the ext3. I suggest you format the common storage area to ntfs (this will destroy the data) then mount it with ntfs-3g
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> dabukalam: not sure, i dont use windows
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> dabukalam: but if you panda to windows's short sightedness and use ntfs, you can mount it with ntfs-3g and linux can read / write to it happily
[12:02] <sash_> dabukalam:  i know that there is an ext-driver for windows, i tried to use it under xp, but it does not work correctly, so i have been afraid to kill my linux-data
[12:02] <dabukalam> actionparsnip, too much typing, not enough reading... if you'd read what i originally wrote you would have saved me some time and a reboot. thanks for your help anyway.
[12:02] <daycreature> ActionParsnip (or anyone), after I have installed LAMP how do I test that SQL is working, and how do I access and use the server
[12:04] <avelldiroll> daycreature, install phpmyadmin and create a dummy base?
[12:04] <daycreature> When I try to run initial config like setting up my root password for mysql
[12:04] <Bart_> Hello, can anyone help me with some SAMBA and printing issues?
[12:05] <daycreature> avelldiroll: I think something is wrong because when I try to do the initial setup in terminal like setting the password I get this error: mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[12:05] <daycreature> error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
[12:05] <daycreature> Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
[12:05] <daycreature> why would it fail to connect to localhost
[12:05] <iceroot> daycreature: server is running?
[12:06] <tresadf> 大家好
[12:06] <daycreature> how do i stop the server so i can set it up
[12:06] <iceroot> daycreature: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop
[12:06] <avelldiroll> daycreature, iceroot is right check with ps that your server is running
[12:06] <iceroot> daycreature: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql status  for checking the status
[12:06] <daycreature> ok that stopped it perfect
[12:07] <iceroot> daycreature: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start  for starting the server
[12:07] <daycreature> iceroot: even with the server stopped i still get the same error
[12:08] <inshion> ls
[12:08] <tresadf> sl
[12:08] <iceroot> daycreature: what you want to do exactly? also try #mysql
[12:08] <daycreature> I just want to be able to get into my server so I can install joomla on it
[12:08] <AdvoWork> how does logrotate run? can i run it now as if it'd run on its own?
[12:08] <tresadf> use help
[12:09] <daycreature> thanks for the channel suggestion i will go there but if you know how to do this please help
[12:09] <iceroot> daycreature: going into the server with what?
[12:09] <daycreature> With a browser
[12:09] <daycreature> I guess I need to install phpmyadmin
[12:10] <bazhang> !cn | tresadf
[12:10] <daycreature> but i need to be able to setup my password in stuff that's the primary issue i'm trying to solve right now
[12:10] <daycreature> this error i'm getting
[12:10] <daycreature> and stuff*
[12:11] <tresadf> can login or not?
[12:11] <tusslingturtle> hi, kann mir jemand helfen starcraft unter ubuntu zum laufen zu bringen damit ich wieder im battlenet spielen kann?
[12:11] <bazhang> !de | tusslingturtle
[12:12] <AdvoWork> im trying logrotate -f to force but nothings happening
[12:12] <tresadf> -help
[12:12] <bazhang> tresadf, ask a question
[12:12] <inshion> nick
[12:13] <weige> hello
[12:13] <bazhang> weige, hello, what is your Ubuntu support question
[12:13] <ernetas> Hello guys.
[12:14] <aheckler> what was the name of that forum that one of the mods started a few years back? i remember he sent PMs to virtually everyone on UF about it and some people got mad....
[12:14] <ernetas> I have a server with CD drive connected over IDE.
[12:14] <ernetas> And a desktop, which has DVD drive connected only over SATA.
[12:14] <bazhang> !ot > aheckler
[12:14] <dvelaz1> l
[12:14] <ernetas> For now, I don't have any empty CDs left.
[12:15] <ernetas> The point is - I could burn DVD and install Ubuntu Server into the server's HDD connected to desktop's motherboard and CD-ROM.
[12:15] <ernetas> Sorry, I mean DVD drive :) .
[12:15] <ernetas> Only if this would work. Would it? :)
[12:15] <dabukalam> anyone know what differences there are between kernels 2.6.28-12 and 2.6.28-13?
[12:15] <ernetas> My server and desktop have different chipsets, motherboards and etc.
[12:16] <ernetas> Would it work, do you think? :)
[12:16] <nsadmin> dabukalam: 1
[12:16] <ernetas> And maybe there's a possibility to install Ubuntu over network? :) It could make things a lot easier.
[12:16] <ernetas> I mean something like PXE. :)
[12:16] <nsadmin> that number is the number of times the maintainer uploaded the same version of a package
[12:16] <dabukalam> nsadmin: ;) apart from that
[12:17] <dabukalam> nsadmin: so there's no difference?
[12:17] <nsadmin> also the changelog would probably tell you in more detail
[12:17] <AdvoWork> how does logrotate know when to run each day, what calls it?
[12:17] <dabukalam> nsadmin: why is it on the recommended updates then?
[12:17] <nsadmin> no, there is likely a difference
[12:17] <nsadmin> maybe someone fixed a bug or 2
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> or added some functionality
[12:18] <nsadmin> or added more drivers
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> if you go to www.kernel.org you can read the changelog
[12:18] <nsadmin> well no, you'd have to look at the debian changelog because that number is only relevent to that or ubuntu
[12:19] <vegombrei> is there a way to back up my system and restore it on a new pc?
[12:20] <vegombrei> or do i have to reinstall ubuntu and all the tweaks i made
[12:20] <tsimpson> !backup
[12:20] <koshari> ActionParsnip given compix was the culprit i borrowed a script to switch to metacity while FoF is running,
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> koshari: see what i mean about compiz
[12:20] <nsadmin> you could try that\
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> vegombrei: you can use partimage to transfer the partition from system to system
[12:21] <koshari> ActionParsnip yeah i know but its a bit like a crack addiction, when your flying its the great,
[12:21] <koshari> ActionParsnip how did you install the FoF mod btw?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> koshari: i used it back when it was beryl, got bored of it, switched to lxde
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> koshari: it sits on my file server and has its own executable
[12:22] <fabio> ciao
[12:22] <koshari> ActionParsnip where the bin from???
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> koshari: there are mods that you can put in a folder in the FoF folder system and you can select it
[12:23] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip: but im assembling a pc with all new hardware .. how will the restore behave once it finds new hardware?
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> koshari: theres 32bit and 64bit http://www.fretsonfire.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25027#p285059
[12:24] <koshari> ActionParsnip cheers/
[12:24] <inshion> anyone use PortableUbuntu?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> if ou have left all the x drivers on the system it will be fine. You may have to reset xorg.conf to defaults as the gfx card may be different
[12:24] <anirban> how to write chown for a group ... i.e. all the members of the group gets the same priviledge ?
[12:24] <weige> what's portable ubuntu
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> anirban: sudo chown :groupname thing
[12:25] <CorpX> how could i save the output of terminal to a log file
[12:25] <weige> >
[12:25] <CorpX> im about to run a perl script, but i'd rather have the output saved to af ile
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> anirban: by default the users in the group have the same group access as they are in the same group
[12:25] <CorpX> so
[12:25] <weige> use  > xxx.flie
[12:25] <CorpX> perl script.pl > xxx.file ?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> CorpX: command > file.txt
[12:26] <weige> yeah
[12:26] <AdvoWork> how come logrotate doesnt include syslog in its rotation as default?
[12:26] <CorpX> thanks
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> CorpX: sure, make sure you have write access to the pwd
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> CorpX: or you can run perl script.pl > ~/xxx.txt and it will be in the root of ~
[12:27] <totaleclipse> hi
[12:27] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip: yep, im going from a p4 3.4 1gb ram 64mb graphics to a quad core 8gb ram radeon 512 .. its quite a leap but if i have to reinstall ubuntu the personalizing and tweaking will take me forever to restore
[12:27] <iceroot> AdvoWork: it has syslog by default /etc/logrotate.d/syslog  (debian lenny)
[12:27] <YBLLZIJ> ZJPPIBRGFYTUIEQZBWDKQUJGPDFGIJXPLWBTQFDACMOM
[12:27] <YBLLZIJ> FFLTPNFLYXKHOAKESQDSJKIT
[12:27] <YBLLZIJ> MYQNCODQDPKLXOHMXEKEBOGSHC
[12:27] <FloodBot3> YBLLZIJ: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> vegombrei: most of the settings are in /etc and your home dir
[12:28] <iceroot> AdvoWork: there is a config /etc/logrotate.conf and there are several scripts in /etc/logrotate.d/
[12:28] <totaleclipse> can anyone help me change the graphics card driver to a better one in ubuntu 9?
[12:28] <AdvoWork> iceroot, i just looked in logrotate.d and it doesnt mention syslog
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> totaleclipse: what video card?
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> totaleclipse: lspci | grep -i vga will tell you
[12:28] <totaleclipse> versions 6,7, and 8 used to work fine but in version 9 the 3dcube wont start
[12:28] <iceroot> AdvoWork: hm, dont know how it will be done in ubuntu, but in debian its default
[12:29] <totaleclipse> 945 intel
[12:29] <iceroot> totaleclipse: oh :(
[12:29] <iceroot> totaleclipse: intel with jaunty is very hard, let me look up, i found a tut how to install a better intel driver (eeepc intel 945)
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> totaleclipse: i've seen some success stories with this: http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/05/reverting-xorg-video-intel-driver-of.html
[12:30] <totaleclipse> super! let me have a look...
[12:30] <AdvoWork> iceroot, any ideas how I can manually rotate that file then?
[12:31] <nsadmin> AdvoWork turn your laptop 90 degrees!
[12:31] <iceroot> AdvoWork: sure, look at the other rotates and write some for your log
[12:31] <iceroot> totaleclipse: use this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582  i am using this with bei intel 945 on jaunty
[12:31] <totaleclipse> thanks guys
[12:31] <totaleclipse> ;)
[12:32] <totaleclipse> hey open source rules...
[12:32] <iceroot> !paste
[12:32] <totaleclipse> i have recently noticed that major companies apple is included are stealing stuff from the open source. they should stop. we are talking that they steal the way of thinking
[12:33] <iceroot> AdvoWork: http://paste.ubuntu.com/219692/  this is my logrotate for rsyslog (debian lenny)
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> totaleclipse: there is a license on the code
[12:33] <AdvoWork> iceroot, i added: /var/log/syslog { missingok daily  create 0664 root utmp rotate 7 } to my logrotate.conf and ran: logrotate  -v /etc/logrotate.conf  but it didnt rotate :S
[12:34] <iceroot> AdvoWork: logorate -v -f /etc/logrotate.conf
[12:34] <nsadmin> a way of thinking is not property. follow to the logical conclusion... what would it be like if it were?
[12:34] <totaleclipse> license hope that stops the thefts. anyway i don't believe so. However open source is grwoing up faster ! it has become powerfull
[12:34] <AdvoWork> and the output was: rotating pattern: /var/log/syslog  after 1 days (7 rotations)    empty log files are rotated, old logs are removed   considering log /var/log/syslog     log does not need rotating
[12:34] <iceroot> AdvoWork: you have to reload the syslog-daemon, have a look at my link i gave you
[12:35] <totaleclipse> free the open source stop copying guys!
[12:35] <totaleclipse> thanks for the help here!
[12:35] <totaleclipse> i love you all!
[12:35] <iceroot> AdvoWork: because the daemon is opening a logfile which you want to rotate, after that the log-daemon cant write to the new file
[12:35] <weige> ...
[12:35] <nsadmin> start copying girls?
[12:35] <AdvoWork> ahh, ok, it reloaded doing force.. but the syslog was 141mb, and now its just syslog.1 and is 141mb, so ive still got the problem of massive log files :S
[12:35] <Cobra_Girl> I installed recommended security updates yesterday for Hardy and now Pidgin doesn't work at all... will not open
[12:36] <Cobra_Girl> Has anyone heard anything on this?
[12:36] <iceroot> AdvoWork: man logrotate
[12:36] <nsadmin> Cobra_Girl: now THAT'S what I call security!
[12:36] <iceroot> AdvoWork: look at compress, also look at rotate
[12:36] <totaleclipse> oh by the way... windows 7 is the same old windows. registry... dll same sh^t
[12:36] <Cobra_Girl> not the security I'm looking for  :(
[12:36] <iceroot> AdvoWork: its deleting the old logs after rotate x days
[12:36] <Anrban1987> ActionParsnip : "sudo chown :groupname thing " What to do if "thing" is a folder and I want to apply the permissions to all the child directories ?
[12:37] <iceroot> AdvoWork: sudo chown -R user:group directory
[12:37] <kalis_2009> hi, does somebody knows strategoxt and how can I install on ubuntu esaily?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Anrban1987: sudo chown -R :groupname thing
[12:37] <nsadmin> Cobra_Girl: try reinstalling it... or try watching a log like maybe /ver/log/messages while you try to run it
[12:37] <iceroot> AdvoWork: sorry wrong nick
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Anrban1987: you can set the user owner too if you wish:   sudo chown owner:groupname thing
[12:38] <Cobra_Girl> okay, thank you
[12:38] <AdvoWork> iceroot, so after 7 days it will delete the old log?
[12:38] <iceroot> AdvoWork: if i am correct rotate x = x weeks
[12:38] <nsadmin> Cobra_Girl: welcome... but I'd be curious as to the result
[12:39] <iceroot> AdvoWork: have a look at man logrotate
[12:39] <iceroot> AdvoWork: there a 3 examples
[12:39] <AdvoWork> iceroot, im now confused, ran that script, its create syslog.1 and syslog  syslog is 0mb, syslog.1 is still increasing? :S
[12:40] <nsadmin> ahh, a cheech n chong reference
[12:40] <bazhang> nsadmin, olease stay on topic
[12:40] <iceroot> AdvoWork: yes, its still writing syslog.1 because its so big and syslog is your actuel new one
[12:40] <AnthonyCat> does anyone know how to get wifi on the Macbook (early 08), with ubuntu?
[12:41] <bazhang> AnthonyCat, what chipset
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> AnthonyCat: if you can provide a pastebin of    lspci; lsusb   we might
[12:41] <AdvoWork> iceroot, any suggestions what to do then? the logs get so big it kills the server
[12:41] <darkmillian> hello
[12:41] <weige> hello
[12:41] <darkmillian> ummmm i having a problem
[12:42] <darkmillian> i'm*
[12:42] <iceroot> AdvoWork: i was using a 500mb log without problems
[12:42] <iceroot> AdvoWork: use also compress to reduce the size
[12:43] <totaleclipse> see you...
[12:43] <AnthonyCat> ActionParsnip: Well I'm not in linux at the moment, because I wanted to use the wifi, but it is Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (<IP_ADDRESS>) AirPort Extreme  (0x14E4, 0x88)
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[12:44] <AdvoWork> iceroot, "compress" is already set in there :S
[12:44] <AnthonyCat> ubottu: thanks
[12:45] <dumb> hello i have tv card AverTv Hybrid Volar HX, I installed driver, video is working fine, but i don't hear audio
[12:45] <dumb> can you help me?
[12:45] <Dulak> dumb: check your cdrom volume is up in your volume controls
[12:46] <nsahoo> getting an error Segmentation faulty tree... with apt-get upgrade this morning
[12:47] <dumb> in alsamixer volume is on 100
[12:47] <Dulak> dumb: for both line-in and cdrom?
[12:47] <stowaway> gday
[12:47] <dumb> yes of course
[12:47] <Dulak> dumb: some tv tuners user the cdrom, some use line-in
[12:47] <stowaway> im following a guide and it tells me to do a command "options usbhid ect"
[12:47] <stowaway> but options command not found
[12:47] <Dulak> dumb: this tv tuner worked before or you just get it and install it?
[12:47] <stowaway> is it in a package i dont have?
[12:48] <Wazzzaaa> Hi, I've installed munin and it seems to run correct (every 5 mins). But the graph images are not generated.  If the process is running as you and trying to be saved when you don't have write acces then it will fail
[12:50] <dumb> sonism it is Avertv hybrid volar hx - usb stick
[12:50] <sonism> Dulak:he3 sorry 4 misunderstanding....
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> areels: 9.04 has been out 3 months, they will be fine
[12:51] <Dulak> dumb: oh if it's usb you should have another device listed in your volume controls for the usb sound
[12:51] <Dulak> dumb: it's probably muted for that device
[12:51] <Anrban1987> ActionParsnip : Nah .. I am facing a strange problem... Actually I want user X to be able to modify a file owned by user Y. Both X and Y are to be in a same group "A" and the permission will be restricted to a particular folder and its children. But "chown" is not working here.
[12:51] <tim|ranger> hey, would you help me? i've got my server running and i need to test it for up-to 1000 connections - thus i want to run my ./client on separate 1000 processes
[12:51] <tim|ranger> how can it be done?
[12:51] <weige> inshion: where r u from
[12:51] <Wazzzaaa> how do i find out ActionParsnip ? the htmldir in munin.conf is has owner munin
[12:52] <inshion> weige:i'm from mars
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Wazzzaaa: you need to read the conf to see the folder where they are generated. I dot use the software myself
[12:52] <dumb> i tried cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:52] <dumb> 0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[12:52] <dumb>                       HDA Intel at 0xd0300000 irq 21
[12:52] <dumb>  1 [A827:0         ]: AVerTV Volar HX - A827
[12:52] <dumb>                       AVerMedia AVerTV Volar HX/AX/MAX A827
[12:52] <FloodBot3> dumb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:52] <Dulak> dumb: you under gnome or kde or what?
[12:52] <tim|ranger> heeey
[12:52] <dumb> kde
[12:52] <Dday> how do i get java in ubuntu?
[12:52] <Wazzzaaa> already verified that... the index.html is updated, but no png or other images :S
[12:52] <Dulak> dumb: you need to look at kmixer, it should let you look at all the devices
[12:52] <disappearedng_> Hey how come when I start screen, I cannot use backspace (I can only use Ctrl-h), and my TERM=xterm, Any suggestions for recomendation?
[12:53] <daycreature> how do i start mysql
[12:53] <Dulak> dumb: one of them is going to be the usb sound device that tv tuner provides
[12:53] <daycreature> what's the command
[12:53] <Dulak> daycreature: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[12:53] <Amirh> my laptop only has voice output only with headset sockets! no output from its speakers! anybody who can help me?
[12:53] <weige> mysql start not work?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Anrban1987: sudo chown -R X:A /path/to/folder; sudo chmod -R 660 /path/to/folder
[12:53] <tim|ranger> Dulak: you seem to know much - would you help me on running 1000 processes of the same application?
[12:53] <sonism> dumb: i think A827:0 is for the tvcard
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Anrban1987: assuming X is the owner, and A is the group that x and Y are both in
[12:54] <Amirh> my laptop only has voice output only with headset sockets! no output from its speakers! anybody who can help me?
[12:54] <Dulak> tim|ranger: gotta give me a better description than that, what isn't working that you expect should?
[12:55] <dumb> i know it, but i don't know how i do it :-)
[12:56] <sonism> Amirh:try to put the surround line up
[12:56] <Dulak> dumb: I don't use kde, but kmixer should give you a list of devices to choose from somewhere, you need to look at all the devices in the list and figure out which one is the usb sound provided by the tv tuner, and unmute it
[12:57] <tim|ranger> Dulak: none of that isn't working - i'm just writing a bash script - don't even know how it should be done
[12:57] <tim|ranger> PROGRAM=./client
[12:57] <tim|ranger> $PROGRAM &
[12:57] <tim|ranger> that's the start - but how dow i wait untill process ends and how do i start $PROGRAM & 1000 times?
[12:57] <FloodBot3> tim|ranger: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:57] <anirban>  [SORRY LINE GOT DISCONNECTED. PLZ REPOST] I am facing a strange problem... Actually I want user X to be able to modify a file owned by user Y. Both X and Y are to be in a same group "A" and the permission will be restricted to a particular folder and its children. But "chown" is not working here. How to do that ?
[12:57] <ryann> apart from kvpnc, are there any suggested vpn gui's for use in KDE4
[12:57] <sonism> anirban:use chmod
[12:58] <Dulak> tim|ranger: you can use a for loop to loop that 1000 times, when you put the & at the end of the command it puts it to the background immediately so you shouldn't need to wait for it to start the next one
[12:58] <Amirh> sonism: how?
[12:58] <ryann> anirban:  you need to also give the group the proper permissions to that file.  wiki chmod
[12:58] <tim|ranger> Dulak: very good, what syntax is for "for" loop?
[12:59] <tim|ranger> i've seen only for m in ....
[12:59] <erisol> is it possible to copy text from the mrxvt terminal?
[12:59] <grawity> for x in $(seq 1000); do blah; done
[12:59] <grawity> tim|ranger: try "help for" in shell.
[12:59] <tim|ranger> grawity: thank you!!!
[12:59] <tim|ranger> grawity: ouch! nice to know, thanks!
[13:00] <sonism> Amirh:open the volume control, click on preferences, check surround
[13:00] <Phylu> j/ #ubuntu-mozillateam
[13:01] <Amirh> sonism: there's not surround option to check but lots of other option
[13:01] <Dulak> tim|ranger: for i in {1..1000} do $PROGRAM &; done
[13:01] <Dulak> tim|ranger: {1..1000} will do 1000 loops
[13:01] <Ileden> My previous display card (GeForce 6600) died on me, and I'm now trying to get an alternative card working. However, I cannot activate the open source "ati" driver for my Radeon 9200, even by using the online Ubuntu/ATI guide. How can I proceed in troubleshooting the issue?
[13:01] <grawity> Ooh. *notes*
[13:01] <indus> hi all
[13:01] <ka> Will my system run faster if I run / from a usb 2.0 thumbdrive? I am thinking loadtimes for applications and general responsiveness...
[13:02] <indus> Ileden: hello
[13:02] <Wooditon> slt
[13:02] <Ileden> indus: hi
[13:02] <Dulak> grawity: yeah seq is cool, but less overhead to just use the bash built-in
[13:02] <Dulak> grawity: not much difference though
[13:02] <sonism> Amirh:give the surround a check mark,close, give surround 100% volume
[13:02] <erisol> does anyone know how to copy text to the clipboard from mrxvt?
[13:02] <indus> Ileden: How old would you say this radeon 9200 be?
[13:03] <Dulak> erisol: it's not copying it automatically when you highlight it?
[13:03] <Ileden> indus: uh, somewhere around 5 years i guess?
[13:03] <indus> Ileden: can you post the output of glxinfo | grep render
[13:03] <indus> !paste | Ileden
[13:03] <erisol> Dulak, I don't think so
[13:03] <Amirh> sonism: sorry what do you mean by surround? there's no option named surround :(
[13:03] <grawity> erisol: if you just select the text, it's copied to a different clipboard - use the middle mouse button to paste.
[13:03] <Dulak> erisol: it's supposed to copy on release of highlight afaik
[13:04] <indus> Amirh: from sound preferences, enable channel mode
[13:04] <erisol> grawity, that worked, thanks
[13:04] <sonism> Amirh:what 's the type of your soundcard
[13:04] <indus> Ileden: i also want output of dmesg
[13:04] <Amirh> I use Hp
[13:04]  * Until_It_Sleeps is back from: Sleeping (been away for 5h 57m)
[13:05] <Amirh> I have hp laptop
[13:05] <indus> !who | Amirh
[13:05] <sonism> Amirh:and the sound card is?
[13:06] <Amirh> HDA intel (alsa mixer)
[13:06] <Dulak> erisol: shift-insert does the same thing as middle mouse button too, fyi
[13:06] <Ileden> indus: whole output of dmesg?
[13:07] <Ileden> indus: glxinfo pasted
[13:07] <indus> Ileden: yeah paste in that link
[13:07] <erisol> Dulak, shift-insert doesn't work
[13:07] <indus> Ileden: i need the link now
[13:07] <Amirh> sonism: HDA intel (alsa mixer)
[13:07] <nsadmin> you can dmesg | pastebinit
[13:07] <Ileden> indus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/219712/
[13:07] <Dulak> erisol: but middle mouse is pasting ok?
[13:08] <indus> Ileden: so right now do u have a gui? or some black screen
[13:08] <erisol> Dulak, yes
[13:08] <sonism> Amirh: try to give check on mark everything & put all their volume to 100%
[13:08] <indus> Ileden: go to mainmenu >system>hardware>device drivers
[13:08] <grawity> erisol: X has two separate clipboards.
[13:08] <Dulak> erisol: weird, they should be the same
[13:08] <indus> Ileden: go to mainmenu >system>administration>device drivers
[13:08] <Dulak> grawity: but shift-insert should copy from the same clip as middle mouse, at least it does for me
[13:08] <indus> Ileden:dmesg | grep -i vga
[13:08] <Ileden> indus: I do have gui, but it's not using the driver as described in this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[13:09] <indus> Ileden: paste whole dmesg
[13:09] <Ileden> device drivers is empty (did gave something with the previous card, but is now empty
[13:09] <grawity> Dulak: Yes, it does here t oo
[13:09] <user-05> kaka
[13:09] <indus> Ileden: are you using ubuntu 9.04?
[13:09] <Amirh> sonism: I did, nothing solved
[13:10] <sharperguy> Amarok crashed and I had to force quit but the music is still playing...
[13:10] <Ileden> indus: Yes, ubuntu 9.04
[13:10] <Ileden> indus: dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/219718/
[13:10] <sharperguy> ^ oh, the amarokapp process was still running
[13:11] <sid1monu> hey do u guys know any software which would give information about molecular compounds
[13:12] <sid1monu> ?
[13:12]  * UIS|AFK is now away: Away from keyboard
[13:12] <indus> Ileden: under system>admin>hardware drivers do u see anything?
[13:12] <user-05> kaka
[13:12] <Ileden> indus: nope, it's empty
[13:12] <sonism> Amirh:your laptop have the same problem with mine, but when i set the volume of surround to 100%, it works, other guys might help....
[13:13] <grawity> user-05: Please stop that.
[13:13] <user-05> jlk;lk
[13:13] <indus> Ileden: ok output of lspci
[13:13] <Ileden> indus: there was a driver with the previous video card, but it's disappeared.
[13:13] <Amirh> sonism: there's no surround! I have output with headset but no output from laptop's onboards speaker
[13:13] <bazhang> user-05, English please
[13:13] <Ileden> indus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/219721/