[00:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/libindicator, zesty/unity8, zesty/unity8-desktop-session). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-bluetooth cache., /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-session cache., /: Failed to update local
[00:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2140 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:ubuntu-system-settings cache., xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/to, xenial/update, zesty/Failed, zesty/cache., zesty/local, zesty/lp:ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/to, zesty/update)
[00:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-bluetooth). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-datetime cache., /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-power cache., /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-session cache., /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-sound cache., /: Fai
[00:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2140 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/ubuntu-system-settings). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/ubuntu-system-settings). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/to, xenial/update, zesty/Failed, zesty/cache., zesty/local, zesty/lp:ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/to, zesty/update)
[00:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-bluetooth, zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-session, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/libindicator, zesty/unity8, zesty/unity8-desktop-session). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:indicato
[01:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2581 Dependency wait (zesty/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts). Ready to build (/: Failed to update local lp:ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts cache.). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[01:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-bluetooth, zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-session, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/unity8, zesty/unity8-desktop-session). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:libindicator cache., xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xe
[02:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2581 Dependency wait (zesty/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/to, xenial/update, zesty/Failed, zesty/cache., zesty/local, zesty/lp:ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, zesty/to, zesty/update). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[02:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-bluetooth, zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-session). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-sound cache., /: Failed to update local lp:libindicator cache., /: Failed to update local lp:unity8 cache., /:
[02:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-bluetooth, zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-session, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/libindicator, zesty/unity8, zesty/unity8-desktop-session). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:indicato
[02:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- josharenson, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2031 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/unity8, zesty/unity8). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:unity8 cache., xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:unity8, xenial/to, xenial/update, zesty/Failed, zesty/cache., zesty/local, zesty/lp:unity8, zesty/to, zesty/update)
[02:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2351 Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:ubuntu-keyboard/vivid cache., vivid/Failed, vivid/cache., vivid/local, vivid/lp:ubuntu-keyboard/vivid, vivid/to, vivid/update). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-keyboard)
[03:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- josharenson, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2031 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:unity8, xenial/to, xenial/update, zesty/Failed, zesty/cache., zesty/local, zesty/lp:unity8, zesty/to, zesty/update)
[03:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-session, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/libindicator, zesty/unity8). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-bluetooth cache., /: Failed to update local lp:unity8-desktop-session cache., xe
[03:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2351 Ready to build (/:, vivid/Failed, vivid/cache., vivid/local, vivid/lp:ubuntu-keyboard/vivid, vivid/to, vivid/update). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-keyboard)
[03:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-bluetooth, zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-session, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/libindicator, zesty/unity8, zesty/unity8-desktop-session). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:indicato
[04:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2581 Dependency wait (zesty/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts cache., xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/to, xenial/update, zesty/Failed, zesty/cache., zesty/local, zesty/lp:ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, zesty/to, zesty/update)
[04:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2581 Dependency wait (zesty/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/to, xenial/update, zesty/Failed, zesty/cache., zesty/local, zesty/lp:ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, zesty/to, zesty/update). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[04:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2371 DONE queue (xenial/signon-ui). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:~online-accounts/signon-ui/16.04 cache., xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:~online-accounts/signon-ui/16.04, xenial/to, xenial/update)
[04:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- josharenson, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2031 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/unity8, zesty/unity8). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:unity8 cache., xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:unity8, xenial/to, xenial/update, zesty/Failed, zesty/cache., zesty/local, zesty/lp:unity8, zesty/to, zesty/update)
[05:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2679 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/ubuntu-system-settings). Ready to build (/: Failed to update local lp:ubuntu-ui-extras/staging cache.). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-ui-extras, zesty/ubuntu-ui-extras)
[05:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-session, zesty/libindicator, zesty/unity8-desktop-session). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-bluetooth cache., /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-power cache., /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-
[05:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2371 DONE queue (xenial/signon-ui). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:~online-accounts/signon-ui/16.04, xenial/to, xenial/update)
[05:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- josharenson, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2031 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:unity8, xenial/to, xenial/update, zesty/Failed, zesty/cache., zesty/local, zesty/lp:unity8, zesty/to, zesty/update)
[05:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2679 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/ubuntu-system-settings). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:ubuntu-ui-extras/staging, xenial/to, xenial/update, zesty/Failed, zesty/cache., zesty/local, zesty/lp:ubuntu-ui-extras/staging, zesty/to, zesty/update). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-ui-extras, zesty/ubuntu-ui-extras)
[05:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-bluetooth, zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-session, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/libindicator, zesty/unity8, zesty/unity8-desktop-session). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:indicato
[06:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-bluetooth, zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-session, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/unity8). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:libindicator cache., /: Failed to update local lp:unity8-desktop-session cache., xe
[06:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-bluetooth, zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-session, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/libindicator, zesty/unity8, zesty/unity8-desktop-session). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:indicato
[09:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2371 DONE queue (xenial/signon-ui). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:~online-accounts/signon-ui/16.04 cache., xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:~online-accounts/signon-ui/16.04, xenial/to, xenial/update)
[09:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2351 Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:ubuntu-keyboard/vivid cache., vivid/Failed, vivid/cache., vivid/local, vivid/lp:ubuntu-keyboard/vivid, vivid/to, vivid/update). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-keyboard)
[09:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- josharenson, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2031 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/unity8, zesty/unity8). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:unity8 cache., xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:unity8, xenial/to, xenial/update, zesty/Failed, zesty/cache., zesty/local, zesty/lp:unity8, zesty/to, zesty/update)
[09:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2351 Ready to build (/:, vivid/Failed, vivid/cache., vivid/local, vivid/lp:ubuntu-keyboard/vivid, vivid/to, vivid/update). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-keyboard)
[09:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2371 DONE queue (xenial/signon-ui). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:~online-accounts/signon-ui/16.04, xenial/to, xenial/update)
[09:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- josharenson, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2031 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:unity8, xenial/to, xenial/update, zesty/Failed, zesty/cache., zesty/local, zesty/lp:unity8, zesty/to, zesty/update)
[10:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-session, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/libindicator, zesty/unity8-desktop-session). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-bluetooth cache., /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-datetime cache., /: Failed to upd
[10:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-session, zesty/unity8). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-bluetooth cache., /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-datetime cache., /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-power cache., /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-sound
[10:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-bluetooth, zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-session, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/libindicator, zesty/unity8, zesty/unity8-desktop-session). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:indicato
[13:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-bluetooth, zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/unity8, zesty/unity8-desktop-session). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-power cache., /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-session cache., /: Failed to update lo
[14:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-bluetooth, zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-session, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/libindicator, zesty/unity8, zesty/unity8-desktop-session). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:indicato
[15:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-power, zesty/unity8). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-bluetooth cache., /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-datetime cache., /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-session cache., /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-sound
[15:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-bluetooth, zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-session, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/libindicator, zesty/unity8, zesty/unity8-desktop-session). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:indicato
[16:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2140 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:ubuntu-system-settings cache., xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/to, xenial/update, zesty/Failed, zesty/cache., zesty/local, zesty/lp:ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/to, zesty/update)
[16:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/unity8). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-bluetooth cache., /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-session cache., /: Failed to update local lp:libindicator cache., /:
[16:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2140 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/ubuntu-system-settings). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/ubuntu-system-settings). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/to, xenial/update, zesty/Failed, zesty/cache., zesty/local, zesty/lp:ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/to, zesty/update)
[16:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-bluetooth, zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-session, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/libindicator, zesty/unity8, zesty/unity8-desktop-session). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:indicato
[17:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-session, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/libindicator). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-bluetooth cache., /: Failed to update local lp:unity8 cache., /: Failed to update local lp:uni
[18:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-bluetooth, zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-session, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/libindicator, zesty/unity8, zesty/unity8-desktop-session). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:indicato
[19:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-bluetooth, zesty/indicator-datetime). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-power cache., /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-session cache., /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-sound cache., /: Failed to update local lp:libindi
[19:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-bluetooth, zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-session, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/libindicator, zesty/unity8, zesty/unity8-desktop-session). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:indicato
[20:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/unity8, zesty/unity8-desktop-session). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-bluetooth cache., /: Failed to update local lp:indicator-session cache., /: Failed to update lo
[20:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-bluetooth, zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-session, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/libindicator, zesty/unity8, zesty/unity8-desktop-session). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:indicato
[21:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2351 Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:ubuntu-keyboard/vivid cache., vivid/Failed, vivid/cache., vivid/local, vivid/lp:ubuntu-keyboard/vivid, vivid/to, vivid/update). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-keyboard)
[21:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2371 DONE queue (xenial/signon-ui). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:~online-accounts/signon-ui/16.04 cache., xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:~online-accounts/signon-ui/16.04, xenial/to, xenial/update)
[21:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2371 DONE queue (xenial/signon-ui). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:~online-accounts/signon-ui/16.04, xenial/to, xenial/update)
[21:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2351 Ready to build (/:, vivid/Failed, vivid/cache., vivid/local, vivid/lp:ubuntu-keyboard/vivid, vivid/to, vivid/update). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-keyboard)
[23:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-bluetooth, zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-session, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/libindicator, zesty/unity8-desktop-session). Ready to build (/:, /: Failed to update local lp:unity8 cache., xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xe
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/indicator-bluetooth, zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-session, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/libindicator, zesty/unity8, zesty/unity8-desktop-session). Ready to build (/:, xenial/Failed, xenial/cache., xenial/local, xenial/lp:indicato


[06:30] <Kilos> morning za peeps
[06:37]  * Kilos learning
[07:02] <Kilos> ssd in a usb3 is faster than my lappys standard drive
[08:53] <pavlushka> ahoy ZA!
[18:57] <magespawn> good evening
[18:59] <gremble> Hey magespawn
[18:59] <magespawn> so whats up? been away from here awhile
[19:03] <gremble> As have I. :P I am well thanks and yourself?
[19:04] <magespawn> always good thanks, not worling this week end so have some free time
[19:06] <gremble> That is nice :D
[19:07] <magespawn> working
[19:12] <magespawn> yes visiting with the family
[19:30] <magespawn> what are you doing with your sunday gremble?
[19:40] <gremble> Trying to get some studying done, but the self-motivation is gone. I can force myself to sit and work, but nothing is going in -_-
[19:47] <magespawn> not really worth it then
[19:47] <gremble> Nope. :P
[19:48] <magespawn> better to take a break an try again later
[19:48] <gremble> These days I am struggling to wind down D: that is not really helping either
[19:58] <magespawn> maybe taking up something like yoga or tai-chi
[19:58] <magespawn> i have recently started going to gym, that helps some
[19:59] <gremble> I do regular exercise. But I should maybe try the yoga or tai-chi
[19:59] <magespawn> that is my plan for next week
[20:03] <kulelu88> magespawn: but do you lift bro?
[20:09] <gremble> Sometimes I wonder if you are a meme-generator
[20:11] <magespawn> kulelu88: lift? as in weights?
[20:12] <magespawn> gremble: me?
[20:12] <gremble> No kulelu88 :P
[20:12] <magespawn> hah
[20:14] <kulelu88> :D
[20:14] <kulelu88> "fuark, we are all zyzz bro"
[20:15] <magespawn> hah, not even sure what that means
[20:26] <kulelu88> magespawn: search youtube for: zyzz
[20:33] <magespawn> cool beans kulelu88
[20:40] <kulelu88> did you and MaNI make peace? gremble
[20:41] <gremble> Nothing to make peace over.  We all know its ed
[20:53] <magespawn> i like vim, but that is like saying i like double vodka for breakfast
[20:54] <magespawn> gremble: ed? never heard of it
[20:55] <magespawn> most people will prefer that which has the shortest learning curve
[20:55] <kulelu88> mousepad?
[20:58] <gremble> I use spacemacs. Best of both
[20:58] <gremble> :P
[20:59] <gremble> magespawn, https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.html
[21:00] <magespawn> hah nice one
[21:01] <magespawn> something for everyone out there
[21:02] <gremble> I think I am going to turn in for the night. Cheers everyone
[21:05] <magespawn> cheers gremble
[21:10] <magespawn> right i am also off
[21:10] <magespawn> good night all


[00:00] <mwhudson> (fix here https://pastebin.canonical.com/p/VBwVhxZvXr/)
[00:08] <mwhudson> sent it upstream here fwiw https://github.com/Blosc/c-blosc2/pull/588
[00:08] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Pull 588 in Blosc/c-blosc2 "Change blosc2.c:set_values to always call memcpy if BLOSC_STRICT_ALIGN" [Open]
[07:39] <utkarsh2102> hey!
[07:40] <utkarsh2102> I am doing +1, if you need anything, let me know o/
[07:47] <ginggs> utkarsh2102: o/ r-cran-rcppparallel, r-cran-tmb and r-cran-openmx look like similar failures in the maintainers sed magic, that might an easy win to forward to debian
[08:00] <utkarsh2102> nice, will take a look o/
[09:01] <pushkarnk> utkarsh2102: Can you please sync python-django-bootstrap-form? They have some new fixes, might fix the autopkgtest failures
[09:03] <utkarsh2102> pushkarnk: sure thing! can it be a sync? I see there's an ubuntu delta
[09:04] <pushkarnk> ah, ok :(
[09:04] <utkarsh2102> but if you tell me it's something that's already there in Debian, then I can just  sync it
[09:04] <utkarsh2102>    * Move away from distutils, use packaging (Closes: #1062980)
[09:04] <utkarsh2102> debian does have your changes
[09:04] <utkarsh2102> :)
[09:05] <pushkarnk> The debian maintainer said they fixed the problem that I and ahasenack saw
[09:05] <pushkarnk> oh, yeah
[09:05] <utkarsh2102> perfect
[09:06] <utkarsh2102> then I can sync, no?
[09:07] <utkarsh2102> looks like it, at least
[09:09] <pushkarnk> how does it work? Will ahasenack's delta be overwritten? In that case, I am not sure :/
[09:11] <utkarsh2102> it will be, yes
[09:11] <utkarsh2102> I've sync'd it
[09:11] <utkarsh2102> let's see, otherwise I'll re-introduce it later this week
[10:07] <pushkarnk> utkarsh2102: thanks, will test it asap
[10:30] <ginggs> pandas has circular dependencies, so I am bootstrapping it with the 2.1.4+dfsg-4ubuntu1 upload, and I'll follow up with a 2.1.4+dfsg-4ubuntu2 upload once it has published
[11:15] <ginggs> mwhudson _doko : i've uploaded c-blosc2 with mwhudson's fix for armhf
[11:15] <ginggs> it seems many of it's rdaps through pytables are already not available on s390x
[11:16] <ginggs> so i think we can just remove s390x binaries, i'll file a bug
[11:17] <ginggs> the dependency in pandas was only for tests and documentation, so i'm taking care of that
[12:11] <waveform> @pilot in
[15:57] <bastif> Is is normal that currently the update from Debian unstable don't enter Ubuntu?
[15:58] <rbasak> bastif: autosync is currently disabled to help complete some transitions
[15:59] <bastif> ok, thanks. Will it be enabled before the feature freeze (the one that freeze updates from debian)
[16:06] <rbasak> I'm not sure. Hopefl
[16:07] <rbasak> Hopefully someone else can answer that. But note that it's possible for an Ubuntu developer to sync a given package manually if required, which should be fine if it doesn't interact with those transitions.
[16:09] <waveform> @pilot out
[16:15] <bastif> rbasak: thanks
[16:15] <rbasak> bastif: I'm implying that you should ask about a specific package here and maybe someone will sync it for you :-)
[16:23] <bastif> The packages are not extremely urgent. Maybe I can wait a few more days if autosync comes back.
[16:24] <rbasak> OK. Thank you for caring for these packages in Ubuntu! I think if you ask here in a few days if needed you should get a timely response.
[17:48] <sdeziel> Hello, I noticed the package geoipupdate is licensed as Apache-2.0 or MIT yet it is in multiverse. Shouldn't it be in universe?
[17:52] <rbasak>  guess it ended up there because it's in Debian contrib.
[17:52] <rbasak> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768979
[17:52] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Debian bug 768979 in wnpp "ITP: geoipupdate -- MaxMind GeoIP/GeoIP2 database updates" [Wishlist, Fixed]
[17:52] <rbasak> > since the only purpose of this package is to fetch
[17:52] <rbasak> paid, binary databases from MaxMind, it will uploaded to the contrib
[17:52] <rbasak> section of the archive
[18:01] <sdeziel> rbasak: I can understand the choice of contrib for Debian but for Ubuntu, it feels like it belongs to universe like some other maxmind bits like this https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/mmdb-bin
[18:01] <sdeziel> rbasak: also, it allows pulling the free of charge DB so you don't need to pay MaxMind
[18:04] <sdeziel> rbasak: this is also mentioned on https://packages.debian.org/sid/geoipupdate: "These may be MaxMind's paid products, or their GeoLite variants that are less accurate but provided without charge."
[19:15] <arraybolt3> OK, tricky question - what is the "ultimate" tool in Ubuntu that builds ISO images? I'm trying to find the component that generates the grub.cfg file on ISOs.
[19:15] <arraybolt3> so far I know it's not casper, livecd-rootfs, or live-build.
[19:15] <arraybolt3> or if it is, the info I'm looking for isn't where I expect
[19:20] <bdmurray> I just happen to be looking at an old debian-cd MP modifying kernel parameters in grub.cfg
[19:20] <bdmurray> https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/debian-cd/+git/debian-cd/+merge/453255
[19:35] <arraybolt3> bdmurray: nice, thanks!
[19:46] <arraybolt3> woohoo found it!
[19:57] <arraybolt3> bdmurray: I just did the same thing as that MP: https://code.launchpad.net/~arraybolt3/debian-cd/+git/debian-cd/+merge/460402
[19:57] <arraybolt3> sorta anyway
[19:57] <arraybolt3> alright, now off to patch casper
[20:06] <arraybolt3> and boom: https://code.launchpad.net/~arraybolt3/casper/+git/casper/+merge/460403
[20:07] <arraybolt3> so now we just wait for NEW review and we should be good.
[20:48] <arraybolt3> vorlon: apologies if I'm accidentally spamming you because of the debian-cd merge request, I cannot figure out how LP works with replying to diff review comments :P
[21:04]  * sudip wonders whats happening with LP: #2045034
[21:04] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2045034 in libvpoll-eventfd (Ubuntu Jammy) "vpoll-dkms FTBS with linux 6.5 in jammy" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2045034
[23:10] <mwhudson> arraybolt3 is after the forbidden knowledge i see
[23:10] <arraybolt3> indeed I am
[23:10] <mwhudson> well maybe not forbidden. cursed
[23:11] <arraybolt3> hey, someone's gotta hack the scrolls in order to get things to work, and I signed up for it, so... :P
[23:11] <mwhudson> yeah i know, i am somewhat torn between wanting to write better docs for all of this code or going all in on being able to throw it all into the sea
[23:12] <dbungert> is the sea big enough for what needs to be thrown in?
[23:12] <arraybolt3> I couldn't make heads or tales of most of the runs, but the bits I was after made pretty good sense
[23:13] <arraybolt3> I'm decent at reverse-engineering things if I just know where the start point is, so if you feel like documenting, just say "abandon all hope ye who enter, if you enter anyway at least enter here for your sanity's sake"
[23:52] <Eickmeyer> I sea we want to pollute the Pacific Ocean with that code.


[20:32] <louisdk> I'm trying to play 720p video over nfs on local network via lan but it lacks. Any tips on debugging?
[22:32] <john__> I have installed mythtv in linux lite, used to work on mythbuntu but changed software due to crash. get message locked when scanning for channels
[22:32] <tgm4883> linux lite?
[22:32] <john__> ubuntu derivative
[22:34] <tgm4883> where are you seeing that message?
[22:36] <john__> when I scan for channels alongside the scan process,
[22:36] <tgm4883> john__, ok, so what is the problem then?
[22:39] <john__> dont find any channel because I get no results from a scan so can use the mythtv frontend.  There is only one channel coming from a video source, previously the software registered a connection and the software was able to record from the source, now nothing.


[11:28] <tgm4883> Daviey, we should also break apart the goal conversions for amd64 and i386
[11:41] <tgm4883> just FYI, i was looking at the wrong graph earlier, we need 100 more ISO downloads *whoops*
[11:43] <therethinker> Is this graph public?
[11:43] <MitoTranin> 100 more downloads for what?
[11:43] <therethinker> Break the record
[11:44] <tgm4883> the iso
[11:44] <tgm4883> I don't think it's public, lets find out
[11:44] <MitoTranin> tgm4883: I figured that part :)
[11:44] <tgm4883> https://www.google.com/analytics/reporting/dashboard?id=4891129&pdr=20070903-20071004&cmp=average&trows=10
[11:44] <therethinker> I can see your credit card number!
[11:44] <therethinker> Naw, its hidden
[11:44] <tgm4883> sweet, and my SSN too?
[11:45] <MitoTranin> I get a sign-up page... lol
[11:45] <therethinker> Yep
[11:45] <therethinker> And your REAL real name
[11:45] <therethinker> You've been caught... Joshua Gradien!
[11:46] <tgm4883> you got me
[11:47] <therethinker> is registering public on mythbuntu.org?
[11:52] <Daviey> any samba pro's here?
[11:53] <MitoTranin> depends on what you classify as a pro
[11:53] <MitoTranin> I've used it a bunch... but never did any dev for it
[12:05] <Daviey> MitoTranin: any idea how to make //Server/* work?
[12:05] <Daviey> i can get //Server/folder/* working
[12:05] <Daviey> but not the root
[12:10] <MitoTranin> what are you trying to do?
[12:10] <MitoTranin> are you trying to mount //server/folder to a folder on your drive, or?
[12:11] <MitoTranin> if you're trying to browse the share, it might be disabled...
[12:11] <MitoTranin> samba can disable root folder sharing
[12:11] <MitoTranin> so you can access the shared folders directly, but you can't access the computer itself to see what shares it has available
[12:14] <Daviey> hmm
[12:15] <Daviey> I want "guest" to be able to write to root
[12:15] <Daviey> ie //server
[12:15] <Daviey> currently get error: tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
[12:16] <MitoTranin> that's impossible to "write" to //server
[12:16] <MitoTranin> because //server is the server name
[12:16] <MitoTranin> that's not a share
[12:16] <MitoTranin> you have to share a folder
[12:16] <MitoTranin> namely, //server/folder/
[12:16] <Daviey> oh.. thats working
[12:16] <Daviey> i thought you could write to root
[12:16] <Daviey> ah well
[12:16] <Daviey> thanks
[12:17] <MitoTranin> nope, there's nothing there to write too
[12:17] <MitoTranin> it's virtual
[12:17] <Daviey> and you can't map it to a share?
[12:17] <MitoTranin> are you familiar with windows networking much?
[12:17] <Daviey> nope
[12:17] <Daviey> i suck at windows admin
[12:18] <Daviey> hence, not much need for samba :)
[12:20] <MitoTranin> think of it this way
[12:20] <MitoTranin> litterally, the //server can be substituted with //<IP_ADDRESS>
[12:20] <MitoTranin> it's just another dns name
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #140821 in gdm (main) "[gutsy]  Can not change default GNOME splash background color (dup-of: 132833)" [Low,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/140821
[12:21] <MitoTranin> now imagine that to be the main page of a forum
[12:21] <MitoTranin> you wouldn't want people posting messages right there...
[12:21] <MitoTranin> you create sub-forums, and people make posts into there
[12:22] <MitoTranin> you go to the main page to see the directory structure, and then you go to the apropriate forum
[12:22] <MitoTranin> same with file sharing
[12:22] <MitoTranin> you go to the parent share, or the computer share
[12:22] <MitoTranin> this lists which printers are shared and which folders are shared
[12:22] <MitoTranin> then you have to go into the shared folder to do anything
[12:25] <tgm4883> Daviey, who set up the goal conversions?
[12:29] <tgm4883> who mirror is us-il
[12:29] <MitoTranin> I think that was fox's
[12:30] <tgm4883> it's down/has issues and needs to be fixed
[12:30] <MitoTranin> he knows
[12:30] <MitoTranin> it's supposed to be out of rotation
[12:30] <tgm4883> it's not
[12:30] <tgm4883> bendailey, ping
[12:33] <Daviey> tgm4883: goals? LP goals?
[12:33] <Daviey> that was laga i think
[12:33] <tgm4883> google analytic goals
[12:34] <tgm4883> we have surpassed the mark for visitors
[12:34] <Daviey> MitoTranin: ta
[12:34] <Daviey> o/
[12:34] <Daviey> that was superm1
[12:34] <tgm4883> ok
[12:34] <tgm4883> 20 iso's to go :)
[12:34] <MitoTranin> ta?
[12:35] <MitoTranin> brb, family is hollering for dinner :)
[12:37] <tgm4883> our torrent has hit a couple different torrent sites now
[12:38] <therethinker> Whoo
[12:41] <therethinker> when was the last time we broke the record?
[12:41] <therethinker> s/we/you
[12:43] <tgm4883> honestly, yesterday
[12:43] <therethinker> :P
[12:43] <therethinker> what is the record?
[12:44] <tgm4883> actually i lied
[12:44] <therethinker> :p
[12:44] <tgm4883> yesterday was the record for iso's
[12:44] <therethinker> Are you a compulsive liar? I'm not
[12:44] <therethinker> okay, I am
[12:44] <therethinker> ah
[12:45] <tgm4883> wtf, now I got no data, sec
[12:45] <tgm4883> thats what I get for looking at our 2 visits from cuba
[12:45] <therethinker> :P
[12:46] <tgm4883> 1,366 visits on Sept 17th
[12:46] <therethinker> wow
[12:46] <tgm4883> today 1546 so far
[12:46] <Daviey> 450 are probably us :)
[12:46] <tgm4883> could be
[12:46] <therethinker> Can you get a curve over 24 hours?
[12:47] <tgm4883> although we did get alot of new comers from china in the last 2 days
[12:47] <tgm4883> therethinker, i think so
[12:47] <tgm4883> let me check
[12:47] <therethinker> cool
[12:47] <therethinker> china doesn't block him
[12:47] <tgm4883> iso record is 456
[12:48] <tgm4883> we are at 437
[12:48] <tgm4883> I thought it was interesting that fidel allowed someone else to get mythbuntu :)
[12:48] <Daviey> right.. /me bed
[12:48] <Daviey> nn
[12:49] <therethinker> :P
[12:49] <therethinker> fidel?
[12:49] <therethinker> so can you get a graph of visitors over time?
[12:50] <tgm4883> i get a graph my day, but im pretty sure I can get it by hour
[12:51] <tgm4883> night Daviey
[12:52] <therethinker> night
[12:55] <tgm4883> yep, i can get hourly of some things
[12:56] <therethinker> Cool
[12:56] <therethinker> Can you take a screencap or something of the hourly ISO?
[12:56] <therethinker> Along with your real name, SSN, and Credit card info?
[12:57] <therethinker> s/your/your (insert_someone_you_know)
[12:59] <tgm4883> hmm
[01:00] <tgm4883> heh, i'm not exactly sure how I should be reading this report
[01:00] <tgm4883> our timezone is set for GMT-6
[01:00] <tgm4883> but it shows 24 hours of data
[01:00] <therethinker> That's sort of correct, right?
[01:01] <tgm4883> so is it the last 24 hours, or is 17:00 still 5:00 PM?
[01:01] <therethinker> Yeah
[01:01] <therethinker> so last 24 hours...
[01:01] <tgm4883> well the way it's formatted is confusing
[01:02] <tgm4883> it starts at 00:00 (obviously)
[01:02] <tgm4883> and that should be midnight central time
[01:02] <therethinker> ah
[01:02] <tgm4883> sec
[01:02] <tgm4883> ah much better
[01:03] <tgm4883> It was showing me hourly data for evey day of the last 30 days
[01:03] <therethinker> that's nicer
[01:03] <tgm4883> so there were 30 1:00's
[01:03] <tgm4883> now I just have it set for today
[01:05] <tgm4883> looks like we push roughly 25 iso's an hour
[01:07] <therethinker> cool
[01:07] <therethinker> Is that @ 450 a day?
[01:07] <therethinker> or like 400?
[01:09] <tgm4883> well thats just today
[01:09] <tgm4883> we push over 300 a day usually
[01:09] <tgm4883> but today and yesterday will be over 450/day
[01:10] <therethinker> wow
[01:10] <therethinker> that's odd
[01:10] <tgm4883> nah, beta release will do that
[01:10] <tgm4883> wait till final
[01:10] <therethinker> :p


[11:53] <rindolf> Hi all. How can I remove old and no-longer-needed data from .bzr? Something like "git clean -dxf" or "svn cleanup".
[11:54] <zyga> rindolf: what do you mean?
[11:54] <zyga> rindolf: ignored files that you don't add to the repository?
[11:54] <zyga> rindolf: bzr clean-tree --help; maybe?
[11:54] <rindolf> zyga: no, the junk/cruft inside the ".bzr"/dot-bzr.
[11:54] <zyga> ah
[11:54] <zyga> bzr pack --clean-obsolete-packs ; should do it
[11:56] <rindolf> Thanks!
[11:56] <rindolf> zyga: thanks, let me try.
[12:02] <rindolf> zyga: OK, I did it and it was time consuming and .bzr is still 296M whereas the working copy directories are 150M.
[12:03] <zyga> rindolf: well, bzr keeps all history so it's well expected that the history folder (.bzr) is larger than the working copy
[12:03] <rindolf> zyga: but that's not the case for it in .git.
[12:03] <zyga> rindolf: there is no other cruft to remove I'm afraid, bzr keeps the history and a few indices to find the data
[12:03] <zyga> rindolf: it is
[12:03] <zyga> rindolf: git keeps the history just as bzr
[12:03] <rindolf> zyga: at least not usually.
[12:04] <zyga> rindolf: I don't believe you are correct, unless you do "shallow" clones that ignore all the history apart from the few most recent changes
[12:04] <zyga> rindolf: bzr can do that too
[12:04] <zyga> rindolf: you can create a lightweight checkout of an existing branch that will *not* keep the history locally
[12:04] <zyga> rindolf: depending on how you work that might be useful to you
[12:05] <rindolf> zyga: OK.
[12:06] <LeoNerd> Since the current state is inferred from the history that got us here, information theory states that the history is necessarily at least as large as the state itself
[12:06] <zyga> rindolf: you can do a lightweight checkout with bzr checkout --lightweight URL
[12:07]  * zyga thinks that sliding history window would be a nice backup feature if bzr scaled well for large binary files
[12:07] <rindolf> LeoNerd: I think git compresses the history though.
[12:07] <zyga> anyway, back to work
[12:07] <zyga> rindolf: bzr does as well
[12:08] <zyga> rindolf: you might be using an older format that has less efficient compression, you can run bzr upgrade --2a; to get the latest format; then re-do the pack command as above
[12:08] <zyga> rindolf: if you had started with an older repository format this will usually save some space
[12:09] <rindolf> zyga: thanks.
[12:09] <rindolf> zyga: «The branch format Meta directory format 1 is already at the most recent format.»
[12:10] <zyga> rindolf: then that's the best bzr can do for you now
[12:12] <rindolf> zyga: OK, thanks.
[15:25] <fullermd> git gc does gc unref'd revs, which bzr pack doesn't.  Usually not a huge difference, but special cases can make it bigger.
[15:26] <fullermd> ('course, git clean _is_ straight analogous to bzr clean-tree; it's a WT operation, not a history one)
[15:31] <zyga> fullermd: is there are way to 'git gc' in bzr from the command line?
[15:33] <fullermd> The part that does repacking/recompressing/whatnot, sure, that's what bzr pack does.  The part that gc's stuff, no.
[21:53] <achiang> hello, i have 2 separate trees: call them 'code' and 'tests'. i'd like to merge tests => code and have both code and tests in a single branch
[21:53] <achiang> is there a way to do this while preserving the history of 'tests'
[21:53] <achiang> is it as simple as a bzr merge?
[21:55] <achiang> hm, no.
[21:55] <achiang> maybe it's bzr join ?
[21:57] <achiang> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9849466/how-to-combine-repositories-into-a-single-one-in-bazaar
[21:57] <jelmer> achiang: yep, bzr join sounds like what you are looking for
[21:57] <achiang> i can't figure out the join syntax though, even after looking at the help
[22:00] <achiang> https://answers.launchpad.net/bzr/+question/71563
[22:01] <achiang> if i have modern bzr (post 12.04), do i need to do anything specific to get rich-root?
[22:03] <achiang> uh, i have branch format 7, whatever that means
[22:04] <achiang> oh, ok. and repository format 2a
[22:04] <achiang> hopefully that's good enough to try join
[22:06] <achiang> jelmer: any clues?
[22:07] <fullermd> Plenty.  Rich root worries are mostly a pre-2.0 thing.  To use join you'd just stick one branch under another and then run the command on it.
[22:07] <fullermd> And then commit it, of course.  Join is really just a bit of sugar around merge.
[22:08] <jelmer> what fullermd says :)
[22:08] <achiang> hm. ok
[22:09] <fullermd> Well, in that case, fullermd also gets a 20 foot high pile of gold coins delivered to his front door today   ;p
[22:11] <achiang> confused... :-/ http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6764485/
[22:14] <achiang> fullermd: any ideas what i did wrong above?
[22:15] <SamB> zyga: often, git *does* manage to scrunch histories up enough to take less space than the working tree.  (This is obviously easier on projects with shorter histories.)
[22:16] <fullermd> Do those branches have any shared history?
[22:16] <achiang> fullermd: they really shouldn't
[22:16] <achiang> fullermd: no, they do not have any shared history
[22:17] <fullermd> Well, that says they have the same root id.  Which I guess without shared history means they're old enough to have come from pre-rich-root branches, which all have the same root.
[22:17] <fullermd> So I guess your best bet is to just use merge, then mv all the files into a subdir.
[22:18] <achiang> i tried that and got a different error
[22:18] <fullermd> At one time there was a plugin called merge-into or something that would automate it, but I think it was abandoned when join came around, so I doubt it still works.
[22:19] <fullermd> IWBNI merge had an arg that could do that...   I think a unicorn is scheduled to deliver it next week.
[22:19] <achiang> oh wait
[22:19] <achiang> i screwed up my cp -a before
[22:19] <achiang> let me try again with fresh branches
[22:19] <achiang> i bet it will work
[22:19] <fullermd> You can just use 'branch' instead of cp to do it.
[22:19] <fullermd> e.g., (cd trunk ; bzr branch ../tests)
[22:23] <achiang> ok, will try that
[22:30] <achiang> fullermd: ok, it works much better when you do not overwrite .bzr/ in the containing tree ;)
[22:30] <fullermd> Oh, yes, that might have bad side effects.
[22:32] <achiang> thanks
[22:39] <zyga> SamB: this is true of bzr as well, both use compression
[22:50] <achiang> i have a local branch that takes a long time to pull. i'd like to update this branch with the contents of another test branch that's been pushed up to LP (but not merged into trunk yet).
[22:50] <achiang> is there a way to do so without introducing an actual merge in my local branch?
[22:52] <achiang> maybe it's bzr merge --pull
[22:53] <achiang> yay, that did it


[14:04] <mup> Issue operator#735 opened: Service type change unsuccessful <Created by jardon> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/735>


[03:40] <YokoZar> Hmm, when I download steaminstall.msi, nautilus doesn't identify it as an application/x-msi type, but instead as "OLE2 compound document storage" -- how is this being determined?  /etc/mime.types says to give .msi files application/x-msi
[03:49] <virtuald> YokoZar: libmagic1 i think
[07:31] <nxvl> does anyone know how do i difference a package between main or universe (for ppa)
[07:34] <jldugger> debdiff?
[07:37] <wgrant> nxvl: All PPA packages go into main.
[07:45] <nxvl> wgrant: and there is no way to change that?
[07:45] <wgrant> nxvl: That's correct.
[07:45] <wgrant> nxvl: Why do you wish to do anything else?
[07:45] <nxvl> dunno
[07:45] <nxvl> just asking
[07:45] <nxvl> :D
[07:46] <wgrant> LP devs decided it was a bad idea. Not sure why.
[08:58] <bliZZardz> hi .. n00b here who wants to contribute :) .. looking for packages that might need 'care takers' .. am comfortable with Py
[08:59] <DktrKranz> bliZZardz, let's move to #ubuntu-motu :)
[12:56] <emgent> morning
[18:56] <Mirv> evand: thanks, ubiquity hardy translations are now great!
[22:16] <nxvl> asac: around?
[22:31] <YokoZar> Is there an intrepid image that installs yet?
[23:04] <asac> nxvl: ?
[23:15] <calc> for some reason ssh doesn't seem to like my rsa key, i just realized it kept asking me for a password when it shouldn't need it
[23:17] <calc> it looks like it doesn't know what type key it is?
[23:17] <calc> debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-----BEGIN'
[23:17] <calc> debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-----END'
[23:17] <calc> debug1: identity file /home/ccheney/.ssh/id_rsa type 1
[23:37] <kostmo> what channel is for discussion of making packages for ubuntu?
[23:37] <ScottK> kostmo: #ubuntu-motu
[23:37] <kostmo> thanks


[01:15] <bluesabre> Unit193: you want to be the sponsoree for the things on xfce.html?
[01:16] <Unit193> Unless they break! :P
[01:29] <bluesabre> you get your name on all of them then ;)
[01:29] <Unit193> Hah, thanks.
[01:32] <Noskcaj> Unit193, Yelp is ubuntu-desktop stuff, which is pretty hard to get changes. I'll have a look though
[01:33] <Unit193> You did the last merge, talked a bit to Mica too.
[01:33] <Noskcaj> reading the backlog, maybe not that easy
[01:42] <Unit193> pleia2: Heh, your Wily Warewolf looks a little too cuddily there! ;)
[01:44] <Unit193> bluesabre: I presume you saw https://packages.qa.debian.org/t/thunar/news/20150506T220421Z.html land.
[01:46]  * bluesabre has now subscribed to that ML
[01:47] <Unit193> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-xfce-devel/2015-May/thread.html ?
[01:51] <bluesabre> supposedly I'm already on that list
[01:52] <bluesabre> wonder if I have a broken filter somewhere
[01:53] <bluesabre> I'll finish up the syncs in my packageset in the morning
[01:53] <bluesabre> haven't a hard time staying on task :)
[01:53] <bluesabre> and typing
[01:53] <bluesabre> *having
[01:53] <bluesabre> :D
[01:54] <bluesabre> night all
[01:54] <Unit193> G'nighty!
[02:21] <pleia2> fluffy werewolf <3
[02:27] <Unit193> :)
[02:27] <drc> https://www.google.com/search?q=fluffy+werewolf&client=ubuntu&hs=t7G&channel=fs&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=PnBNVYXOHIbutQXH54HIDw&ved=0CB4QsAQ&biw=1123&bih=741#imgrc=soWL3OD4GmzCzM%253A%3BMITWhuZB4i3jbM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Ffc00.deviantart.net%252Ffs70%252Fi%252F2012%252F207%252F0%252F3%252Fwerewolf_octavia___by_ridgetail95-d58pg75.png%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fridgetail95.deviantart.com%252Fart%252FWerewolf-Octavia-316955201%3B900%3B643
[02:27] <drc> woah...sorry :(
[02:29] <drc> And with that faux pas I'm out :(
[02:37] <Logan> noooooo
[02:38] <Logan> Unit193: thoughts on what I mentioned in #ubuntu-devel?
[02:43] <Unit193> Hmm?
[02:44] <Logan> Unit193: thoughts on what I mentioned in #ubuntu-devel? :P
[02:47] <Unit193> Sure! :P
[02:47] <Logan> :|
[02:51] <Unit193> Don't like the new dep it'd bring, but udd is the logical choice. :/
[02:53] <Unit193> Well...  Not too bad for python3-psycopg2 actually...
[02:55] <Unit193> Logan: Could join 'em in #debian-qa.
[02:56] <Logan> I just don't know if I like the idea of querying a database every time you need to find the source package
[02:56] <Unit193> How fast is it?
[02:59] <Unit193> What's the PTS use?
[03:15] <Logan> Unit193: 0m0.906s
[03:36] <Logan> Unit193: I'm sleeping soon, but feel free to comment on Bug 1453330 :)
[03:37] <Unit193> Whaaat?
[04:06] <Logan> Unit193: what? :P
[08:14] <elfy> assuming I've done it properly - dailies are now up
[08:15] <Hudsonkem> anybody there?
[08:16] <elfy> yes
[08:16] <Hudsonkem> :) about "tearing", any expect?
[08:17] <elfy> you want #xubuntu - that's the support channel
[08:17] <Hudsonkem> no, ^^, just asking if is there a plain about that
[08:18] <Hudsonkem> beta code of "xfwm4"
[08:20] <brainwash> Hudsonkem: maybe, but not until 15.10 (or even 16.04)
[08:24] <Hudsonkem> got it thx
[08:25] <Hudsonkem> do you know if 15.10 come with kernel 4.0.2 stable?
[08:26] <brainwash> you mean 4.2, probably
[08:26] <Hudsonkem> 4.0.2-040002-generic :D
[08:27] <elfy> Hudsonkem: watch the kernel team meetings - they are usually weekly https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[08:28] <elfy> currently wily is still more or less vivid
[08:28] <Hudsonkem> haha
[08:32] <Hudsonkem> going here, cya good morning :P
[10:46] <bluesabre> good morning folks
[10:46] <elfy> hi bluesabre
[10:50] <bluesabre> hey elfy
[10:52] <elfy> bluesabre: not sure on your thoughts re package testing this cycle - mine are - it was a waste of time setting it up last cycle
[10:53] <bluesabre> yeah, did a lot of prep for so few people doing anything with it
[10:53] <elfy> we'd be better off concentrating on images
[10:53] <elfy> and just mail list fairly often - making sure people wily tag bug reports when they report something
[10:54] <bluesabre> yeah, good idea
[10:55] <elfy> personally I think we get more traction from pinging the social media
[10:57] <bluesabre> yeah, we've got a pretty strong following on twitter and g+
[10:57] <elfy> right - didn't know that - don't really follow either much
[10:58] <elfy> if that's where the following is - makes sense to go there :D
[10:58] <bluesabre> mhm
[11:00] <bluesabre> going to upload a thunar package to -staging in a little bit
[11:00] <bluesabre> want to make sure this bug isn't present https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/1014632
[11:00] <elfy> I've not got any ppa's set up yet
[11:00] <bluesabre> I'll check myself, but if you want to review it too... :)
[11:01] <elfy> will do :)
[11:01] <elfy> well - currently I see all the partitions - both unmounted and mounted ones
[11:02] <elfy> has someone said it's back?
[11:03] <bluesabre> no, but we're investigating if we can use the debian version and drop our patch
[11:03] <elfy> aah - right
[11:04] <elfy> well - as soon as the ppa's have wily I'll grab them
[11:04] <bluesabre> yup
[11:05] <bluesabre> uploaded to -staging to vivid and wily, should be built before too long
[11:05] <elfy> okey doke
[11:05] <bluesabre> thanks :)
[11:10] <bluesabre> when you do test, be sure to remove udisks2
[11:11] <bluesabre> and restart
[11:11] <bluesabre> for good measure :)
[11:11] <elfy> ok :)
[11:38] <bluesabre> !info automake wily
[11:38] <bluesabre> :'(
[11:38] <bluesabre> Unit193333333333333
[11:50] <bluesabre> elfy: maybe don't remove udisks2
[11:50] <bluesabre> since gvfs seems to depend on it nowadays
[11:51] <bluesabre> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[11:51] <bluesabre>   gvfs gvfs-backends gvfs-daemons gvfs-fuse software-center udisks2
[11:51] <bluesabre> :\
[11:51] <bluesabre> I wonder if something else pulls in gvfs in the seed
[11:56] <bluesabre> it is pulled with the seed at least
[11:56] <bluesabre>  * (gvfs-fuse)			# let non-GNOME apps see GVFS via fuse
[11:56] <bluesabre>  * (gvfs-backends)      # otherwise no network tab
[11:57] <bluesabre> I think... still not sure what the parentheses do
[11:57] <bluesabre> Unit193: halp
[12:03] <bluesabre> anyway, current sync status
[12:03] <bluesabre> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11042420/
[14:57] <Unit193> bluesabre: Nono, the point is *thunar* doesn't need udisks directly because it uses gvfs, and it is gvfs that uses udisks.
[14:58] <Unit193> bluesabre: And those mean recommeneds.
[15:12] <Unit193> bluesabre: http://paste.openstack.org/show/UA3hc2buFKnBaeH5BXnF
[17:09] <Unit193> slickymaster: https://unit193.net/xubuntu/docs/C/appendix-packages.html needs updating for wily, as do the ents.
[18:21] <Unit193> Logan: Pokepoke?
[18:49] <Logan> Unit193: yo
[18:49] <Unit193> Awesome!
[18:50] <Unit193> Perhaps this?  https://sigma.unit193.net/source/dvdstyler_2.9.2-0ubuntu1.dsc  The one in there now is pretty foobered so I heard.
[18:50] <Logan> wat
[18:51] <Unit193> Fixes lots of bugs, not sure how usable the one in Ubuntu is right now even.  This package is native to Ubuntu, so I get to change more. :D
[19:06] <Unit193> Logan: It's only in the ubuntustudio-video task and in universe so low impact, and also poked studio about it.
[19:09] <Logan> Unit193: I'll take a look
[19:12] <Logan> Unit193: dpkg-source: error: file ./dvdstyler_2.9.2-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.xz has size 8312 instead of expected 8316
[19:12] <Logan> download problem, maybe?
[19:12] <Logan> I'll try it again
[19:12] <Logan> no, same thing
[19:13] <Unit193> Noticed I removed a build-dep used in a d/rules "hack" but not the hack itself.  Redownload the .dsc?
[19:13] <Unit193> (In the packaging I did earlier I removed the hack as well, but..)
[19:13] <Logan> worked, thanks
[19:14] <Unit193> Sorry.
[19:15] <Logan> I forgive you
[19:17] <Logan> ugh
[19:18] <Logan> my Ubuntu VM keeps using WAY more memory than it's supposed to
[19:18] <Unit193> Limiting isn't working?  Can't chroot what you need?
[19:21] <Logan> I allocate 2 GB of memory to the VM
[19:21] <Logan> right now the vmware-vmx process on my Mac is using 11.87 GB of RAM
[19:22] <Unit193> Geeez..
[19:22] <Logan> I never had this problem with VirtualBox
[19:22] <Logan> might just switch back to it
[19:24] <Logan> but it didn't work properly with my Retina display
[19:24] <Logan> :|
[19:24] <Unit193> Try the beta?
[19:25] <Logan> https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/10860?cversion=0&cnum_hist=4
[19:25] <Logan> unresolved
[19:25] <Logan> anyway, your dvdstyler runs
[19:26] <Logan> I can't test it fully because I don't have an optical drive or a blank DVD
[19:26] <Logan> but I'm sure it's better than what's there
[19:26] <Unit193> Yep, so kn ome says.
[19:26] <Unit193> (Built it for him)
[19:28] <Logan> looks good for me, I'll upload
[19:28] <Logan> *to me
[19:29] <Unit193> Great!  Thanks.
[19:32] <Logan> Unit193: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dvdstyler/2.9.2-0ubuntu1
[19:33] <Unit193> \o/
[21:51] <Logan> Unit193: https://communities.vmware.com/message/2505485#2505485 (in case it interests you) :P
[21:52] <Logan> it's crazy how much it uses
[21:53] <Unit193> Nice!
[21:53] <Unit193> Geeeez.
[21:53] <Logan> I got my license for VMware Fusion through my school, and thus it doesn't have a support license
[21:54] <Unit193> Eh, but that's not a small bug.
[21:54] <Unit193> That's the cookie monster going to town on your ram.
[21:54] <Logan> heh, yep :P
[21:54] <Logan> I just wish I could file a support ticket
[21:54] <Logan> community forums usually don't lead to...results
[21:55] <Unit193> Can't file bugs then?
[21:56] <Logan> right
[21:56] <Logan> silly non-open source model :P
[22:22] <elaurens> Hey everyone. I'm a new linux user and wanted to say hi :)
[22:23] <Unit193> Howdy.
[22:23] <Unit193> Logan: I've seen bugtrackers for closed source applications! :P
[22:23] <elaurens> Everything good so far. Got everything set up
[22:24] <elaurens> First steps into leaving my Windows administration background behind and trying to move towards linux administration
[22:26] <elaurens> Still trying to figure out how I can make my contribution to this community
[22:27] <elaurens> Not a coder, but could do help with translation (Dutch/French) and bug testing
[22:27] <drc> elaurens: start here   http://xubuntu.org/contribute/
[22:27] <elaurens> Is there a particular way to sign up for those?
[22:27] <elaurens> Great. Ty :)
[22:29] <elaurens> I've already been there but didn't read up to the part where I need to contact the team's leaders
[22:29] <elaurens> Will do that
[22:30] <Unit193> slickymaster does docs, and that's one of the things needing some translators.
[22:35] <elaurens> Thx for the tip. Will contact him/her.
[23:24] <Unit193> Logan: So how afraid are you of delta and "breaking" GPL are you? :D
[23:24] <Logan> wat
[23:33] <Unit193> Kind of would like to add TLS support to Icecast2, but GPL2.
[23:34] <Unit193> Seems wget doesn't have the exception, but appears to link against OpenSSL.


[05:52] <nictuku> if anyone has time to test nwu, it seems stable enough for testing: https://dev.ubuntubrasil.org/trac/nwu/wiki/DownloadNwu
[11:26] <Toadstool> hey o/
[11:26] <Toadstool> I knew I was missing an important ubuntu channel ;)
[03:05] <Kolan> Hi, Im about to setup a Dual Xenon EM64t server serving Apache/PHP/PostgreSQL on 4GB Ram. should I choose the AMD64 version of ubuntu?
[03:06] <Kolan> or would it be the same to use the regular?
[03:12] <infinity> Kolan: Yes, you want the amd64 version.
[03:15] <Kolan> infinity: thanks for the response, I was looking on the server wiki which is linking and talking about that Drapper is the build to use. Should I be safe to install that even though its not a stable release?
[03:16] <infinity> Safe?  I suppose.  But it's not released and not supported.
[03:16] <infinity> Where does it say to use dapper in production?
[03:16] <Kolan> its not saying anything about to use it in production
[03:18] <Kolan> but it describes it as it was a production release.. would you recommend me to install Breezy?
[03:18] <infinity> Well, if you want stability in production, you want breezy.
[03:18] <Kolan> as this server is to be in production
[03:18] <Kolan> ok
[03:19] <infinity> If you don't mind upgrading occasionally for the next couple of months and helping us find and fix bugs, dapper's cool.
[03:19] <infinity> I certainly don't mind people testing dapper and filing bugs for me to fix, just as long as you're aware that it's an unstable release, and you don't scream to loudly if we occasionally goof it up.
[03:19] <infinity> If it's a production box, please install breezy. :)
[03:20] <infinity> And after you install it, you'll want to install "linux-amd64-xeon" to get the Xeon-tuned kernel for your CPUs.
[03:23] <Kolan> ok.. is that even though I install the AMD64 version?
[03:24] <infinity> Yes, the amd64 installer will install "linux-amd64-generic" which is a very generic amd64 kernel that runs okay on Athlon64, Opteron, and Xeon systems.
[03:24] <infinity> The tuned kernels (-k8, -xeon, etc) run better on their target platforms.
[03:25] <infinity> This is no different from the i386 install, which installs a -386 kernel by default, but you may want -686, -k7, etc.
[03:25] <Kolan> okay.. is there any special kernel for smp aswell?
[03:26] <infinity> The xeon kernel is SMP-enabled.
[03:26] <Kolan> ok
[03:26] <infinity> (based on the argument that none of us have ever seen a useful Xeon system that wasn't SMP)
[03:27] <Kolan> I've been struggeling to get Debian up an running on this server for a week, but as their kernels are to old it dosn't work with the configuration I've
[03:27] <infinity> breezy should be okay...
[03:28] <Kolan> ok :) we'll see
[03:28] <infinity> If the system really does have a lot of incredibly shiny new hardware, you may be stuck having to try a dapper install CD.
[03:28] <Kolan> mm.. it shouldn't, it runs well on xBSD
[03:29] <infinity> Hey, the BSDs beat us to new hardware support sometimes. :)
[03:29] <infinity> (Though, not often)
[03:30] <Kolan> well according to the company that deliverd the server it has runned on FreeBSD for almost 1.5 years
[03:30] <Kolan> with this hardware
[03:32] <infinity> Oh, then yeah, it's crusty, old, and will happily run Ubuntu. :)
[03:32] <infinity> Probably even Warty or Hoary, if you feel like going back in time.
[03:32] <infinity> (warty not recommended, we just dropped support for it)
[03:36] <Kolan> I'm burning out the Breezy AMD64 CD right now
[03:37] <Kolan> so no worries about older version are needed
[03:38] <Kolan> what about when the Drapper's going stable, is it possible to upgrade than? how is that working..?
[03:38] <infinity> Dapper, not Drapper. :)
[03:38] <Kolan> sorry
[03:38] <infinity> And yes, dist-upgrading between releases is generally painless.
[03:39] <Kolan> ahhh... Ubuntu seems to be a dream :)
[03:55] <Kolan> how big should the SWAP partition be if I've 4GB of Ram
[03:55] <infinity> As big as you like.
[03:56] <Kolan> so theres no general rule about 2xRam-size
[03:56] <infinity> If it's not going to be a massively loaded machine, it may never swap anyway, but if you have plenty of disk, it doesn't hurt to have swap.
[03:56] <Kolan> ok
[03:56] <infinity> I usually do RAM*1.5, but that's just force of habit, no hard rule.
[03:56] <Kolan> ok
[03:58] <Kolan> I've also been recommended to use JFS as filesystem on /var since databases works better on those. is this something known? I've never heard about it before
[04:00] <infinity> I wouldn't recommend it, personally.
[04:02] <Kolan> any special arguments for that?
[04:03] <infinity> Stability, peace of mind.
[04:03] <infinity> The two most stable filesystems on Linux currently are ext3 and xfs.
[04:03] <infinity> I generally use the former, unless I have a wonderfully good reason to use the latter.
[04:03] <infinity> (because the latter still has a few really weird corner-case bugs that confuse people sometimes)
[04:04] <Kolan> okay
[04:04] <Kolan> than I'll go for EXT3 on all my partitions
[04:05] <jurjenst> I had some real problems deleting 200k files from a ReiserFS once... I don't recommand that FS to anyone
[04:05] <jurjenst> it could be better with the newest version of it but it was a pain.. took several hours to delete the files
[04:08] <jurjenst> What is the experience here with checks of EXT3 when the server is reset 20 times? Do you disable the check or just let all the users wait till it is finished?
[04:09] <Kolan> where can I find documentation on the server version? I'm thnikn of installation..
[04:10] <Kolan> or when I get to boot:
[04:11] <Kolan> shall I run: server
[04:11] <jurjenst> Kolan: server installs only the minimal software...
[04:11] <jurjenst> no X, Gnome or KDE
[04:12] <jurjenst> so you login on the prompt and install whatever you like to run
[04:13] <jurjenst> something like: apt-get install mysql-server phpmyadmin
[04:13] <Kolan> hmm.. I was thnikin of when booting a server iso CD and get to the installation "boot:" prompt
[04:13] <Kolan> I was just hitting enter
[04:16] <infinity> jurjenst: I tend to tune2fs and remove the "maximum mount count", but leave the "maximum mount age", so 30 reboots won't cause a fsck, but rebooting after a long time up will.
[04:24] <jurjenst> infinity: thanks... I'm not totally sure what to install on servers... downtime is allways annoing ubuntu drake boots up fast... that is really nice...


[04:19] <sakrecoer> aleb: \(^^,)/ thank you very much!
[04:21] <sakrecoer> have a good one everyone, read you soon!


[00:09] <clivejo> oh great now Im being blamed for kamoso being broken
[00:12]  * genii points an accusing finger at clivejo and then runs away
[00:12] <genii> clivejo: Just kidding :)
[00:12]  * clivejo looks for something to throw at genii
[00:13] <clivejo> its a good job Im using a wired mouse today!
[00:14]  * genii slides clivejo a fresh coffee
[00:15] <clivejo> dont drink coffee and especially not at this time!
[00:15] <genii> It's only 19:15 here, still pretty early
[00:16] <clivejo> 00:16 here
[02:58] <RobertVII> Hello, I am having problems with this operating system. I have read many documents on it but, still need help.
[03:33] <sgclark> RobertVII: please use #kubuntu for support. thank you.
[03:34] <RobertVII> I did. Multiple times
[03:34] <RobertVII> For days...
[03:35] <RobertVII> This OS is not stable and doesn't support what I want. Oh well.
[03:36] <sgclark> try https://www.kubuntuforums.net/content.php. This is not a support channel sorry.
[03:37] <RobertVII> Yeah I know I went there too. I must have got a bad download. Sorry, Good bye
[09:19] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:01] <yofel> clivejo: I'm fine, just lots to do at $dayjob, and the little stuff I did for here over the last few days didn't involve this channel.
[12:01] <clivejo> ok, just checking :)
[12:02] <yofel> :)
[14:22] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:32] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[14:33] <batteronizer> Hi guys
[14:34] <batteronizer> Need a bit of help with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kate/+bug/1521517
[14:35] <batteronizer> can anyone suggest a temporary workaround?
[14:35] <BluesKaj> hi clivejo
[14:47] <yofel> batteronizer: pate isn't ported to Qt5 kate yet, and it doesn't look like it will for 15.12 either. I don't think there's a temporary workaround other than using qt4 kate (which means using the version from trusty)
[14:50] <yofel> well, you could also build qt4 kate yourself I guess
[14:59] <batteronizer> yofel: sure, i'll give it a shot
[15:01] <batteronizer> final aim is to write a few plugins to support meteor projects, lets see how it goes
[15:01] <batteronizer> :-)
[15:09] <clivejo> batteronizer: are you a meteor devel?
[15:10] <batteronizer> clivejo: yeah
[15:10] <clivejo> any experience with angular?
[15:12]  * clivejo was trying to create an app to collect and store Kubuntu users around the world and display on an OSM based map
[15:12] <clivejo> it seems Java has moved on a lot since I last looked at it in Uni!
[15:30] <yofel> clivejo: java or javascript? (the statement is true for both though)
[16:11] <ehbello> hi
[16:12] <clivejo> hello
[16:13] <ehbello> i asked a question about xenial in #kubuntu channel but as it is a development version, is better ask here
[16:13] <ehbello>  i'm trying kubuntu xenial and in last upgrade i get a blank screen at sddm login, also running startx, no plasma was loaded
[16:13] <ehbello> i can't see any error at logs, any idea what happens?
[16:14] <clivejo> sounds like graphics driver to me
[16:14] <clivejo> is it a new install or upgrade?
[16:15] <clivejo> yofel: both Java and JS
[16:16] <clivejo> I think Andriod has had a huge influence
[16:16] <ehbello> clivejo: i dont think so. there is an xorg proccess running
[16:16] <ehbello> clivejo: if i run startx in user session, some applications as yakuake starts, but there is no plasmashell
[16:17] <clivejo> what graphics card are you on?
[16:18] <ehbello> clivejo: it is a vm in virtualbox
[16:19] <clivejo> have you gotten to the desktop yet on this install?
[16:19] <ehbello> clivejo: yes, before dist-upgrade
[16:21] <ehbello> clivejo: it worked with kde 5.4.2-0ubuntuN but with 5.4.3-0ubuntu1 no
[16:25] <ehbello> here is the history.log of upgrade: https://paste.kde.org/phvis3qyv
[16:26] <clivejo> sorry, I cant help you.  You could try in #plasma
[16:27] <ehbello> ok, thanks! ;)
[16:29] <clivejo> d_ed: you any idea what might be wrong?
[18:02] <sgclark> yofel: are we still having a meeting today?
[18:03] <yofel> maybe, I didn't have time to check that. Rick will know once he returns
[18:03] <sgclark> ok
[18:32] <mck182> hey guys, I just noticed plasma-workspace in wily unstable is failing because of missing KF5::CalendarEvents, so just wanted to let you know that kdeclarative requires a packaging adjustment as that's where that lib is
[18:33] <sgclark> mck182: okies, thanks
[18:34] <sgclark> yofel: looks life meeting moved to tomorrow. Not sure if that collides with my other obligations tomorrow.
[18:34] <sgclark> like*
[20:13] <soee_> can someone confirm that mult accounts in Owncloud client are gone ?
[20:15] <yofel> if you mean the client, there is an "Add an Account" button in General
[20:19] <clivejo> yofel: how are the merges going?
[20:19] <yofel> dunno, is the counter still at 0?
[20:19] <yofel> I probably won't get to them before christmas vacation
[20:21] <clivejo> :(
[20:38] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin, ping
[20:42] <ahoneybun> yofel, someone from the Ubuntu Docs team has summitted a commit to the Manual on github
[20:42] <ahoneybun> Ted Cox is his name
[20:56] <yofel> sounds somewhat familiar
[21:09] <shadeslayer> I'm the master of merges
[21:09] <shadeslayer> bow before me
[21:09] <shadeslayer> :P
[21:10] <sgclark> oh  you are working on them?
[21:10] <sgclark> I was about to start, glad I didnt
[21:10]  * yofel drowns shadeslayer in flowers
[21:10] <shadeslayer> sgclark: yeah
[21:11] <shadeslayer> I'm up to kd
[21:11] <shadeslayer> sgclark: perphaps you can start from the bottom?
[21:11] <shadeslayer> and we meet half way xD
[21:11] <sgclark> sure, where is bottom of what?
[21:11] <shadeslayer> the bottom of frameworks
[21:12] <shadeslayer> alphabetically bottom I mean :)
[21:12] <shadeslayer> so you can start working on threadweaver, sonnet, so on and so forth
[21:12] <sgclark> aha ok
[21:12] <sgclark> gotcha
[21:12] <shadeslayer> and second
[21:12] <sgclark> got a pad going or using trello?
[21:12] <shadeslayer> sgclark: https://paste.kde.org/pdvwkqhuk
[21:13] <shadeslayer> run that script in a checkout of all frameworks
[21:13] <shadeslayer> and you need this in your .gitconfig https://paste.kde.org/phrlbdu13
[21:13] <shadeslayer> makes merging changelogs easier
[21:14] <shadeslayer> sgclark: I didn't put it up anywhere
[21:14] <sgclark> shadeslayer: great thsnk you
[21:14] <shadeslayer> I just started working on it :P
[21:14] <shadeslayer> and if it's just the two of us, we still don't need no pad, can just work from 2 ends
[21:15] <sgclark> sure
[21:15] <shadeslayer> kd all done \o/ , onto ke
[21:16] <sgclark> meh still setting up my xenial chroot, will be a few yet. but go you :)
[21:16] <shadeslayer> huh, ke done too :P
[21:16] <shadeslayer> seeing how ke only has kemoticons
[21:16] <shadeslayer> sgclark: eh, I'm just doing it to the best of my abilities, CI will take care of the rest of it
[21:17] <sgclark> true
[21:18] <shadeslayer> I just make sure I don't leave any merge markers
[21:18] <shadeslayer> and done
[21:28] <shadeslayer> merge markers inside a diff file qq
[21:31] <shadeslayer> ok, ki all done too, I'll take a break
[22:08] <shadeslayer> sgclark: have you done kxmlgui?
[22:08] <sgclark> yes
[22:08] <shadeslayer> aha, so we're done with the k's :)
[22:08] <sgclark> shadeslayer: ^
[22:09] <shadeslayer> I think the only stuff left is a-k then :)
[22:09] <shadeslayer> I'll let you get to those
[22:09] <sgclark> mm I am confused.
[22:10] <sgclark> done with ks but need a-k?
[22:10] <shadeslayer> bluez-qt
[22:10] <sgclark> anyway, np, your nifty script made this much easier than I expected.
[22:10] <shadeslayer> and stuff like that
[22:10] <shadeslayer> ;)
[22:11] <shadeslayer> sgclark: bluez-qt needs doing
[22:11] <shadeslayer> and breeze-icons
[22:11] <shadeslayer> and ecm and frameworkintegration
[22:11] <sgclark> then why am I working on kwindows system and it is not merged?
[22:11] <shadeslayer> kwindowsystem should be merged
[22:12] <sgclark> hmm
[22:12] <shadeslayer> are you sure you did a git pull
[22:12] <shadeslayer> perhaps your checkout is outdated
[22:12] <sgclark> I used your script..
[22:12] <shadeslayer> my script doesn't do a git pull on kubuntu_unstable
[22:12] <sgclark> probably
[22:12] <sgclark> oh
[22:12] <shadeslayer> so try this : git merge --abort
[22:13] <shadeslayer> git pull
[22:13] <shadeslayer> on kubuntu_unstable
[22:13] <shadeslayer> you should get my changes
[22:13] <shadeslayer> git also did some magic on kxmlgui for me
[22:13] <sgclark> oh gosh
[22:13] <shadeslayer> I merged kxmlgui, commited it, then pulled + rebased, it merged my merge and your merge into one
[22:13] <shadeslayer> I was so confused
[22:14] <sgclark> ok so in short my stuff is wrong hahahahff
[22:14] <sgclark> meh I seriously need to reduce my hats. I am doing nothing well at this point
[22:15] <shadeslayer> sgclark: https://paste.kde.org/ppifc7trj
[22:15] <shadeslayer> sgclark: how so ?
[22:15] <shadeslayer> i don't follow how your stuff is wrong
[22:16] <shadeslayer> seems perfectly fine
[22:16] <sgclark> thanks
[22:16] <shadeslayer> atleast kxmlgui is
[22:16] <sgclark> oh, I though I messed up your stuff. perhaps I am confused. Mildy stressed.
[22:16] <shadeslayer> nah
[22:17] <shadeslayer> if I push stuff, and then you try to mess it up, git will reject your commits
[22:17] <shadeslayer> git is clever that way
[22:17] <shadeslayer> doesn't allow you to mess up commited/pushed work
[22:17] <shadeslayer> unless you really really force it
[22:17] <shadeslayer> that's what it did for me :)
[22:17] <shadeslayer> when I tried to mess up your work ;)
[22:17] <sgclark> hehe
[22:18] <sgclark> cool, so running your new script will update my repos? correct?
[22:18] <shadeslayer> sgclark: yes, it should fix the repos and set them to the right state
[22:18] <shadeslayer> it aborts the merge from the previous script
[22:18] <shadeslayer> and updates kubuntu_unstable
[22:18] <sgclark> great, thanks
[22:18] <shadeslayer> cheers
[22:19] <shadeslayer> and like I said, some of the repos are still unmerged, might want to do those by hand
[22:19] <sgclark> ok
[22:19] <sgclark> anything with a k?
[22:19] <sgclark> without
[22:19] <shadeslayer> nah, k should be all done
[22:19] <sgclark> *
[22:19] <sgclark> meant without
[22:19] <shadeslayer> I haven't touched anything without a k
[22:19] <shadeslayer> except attica and baloo
[22:19] <sgclark> ok
[22:20] <shadeslayer> though it'd be nice if someone could double check my work to make sure I didn't miss something
[22:20] <sgclark> hmm still a ton of conflicts
[22:20] <shadeslayer> sgclark: where?
[22:20] <sgclark> everything lol
[22:20] <sgclark> wonder if my repos are borked
[22:20] <shadeslayer> sgclark: can you show me the output of the last script I gave you?
[22:21] <shadeslayer> perhaps one repo that still has the conflicts
[22:22] <shadeslayer> and yay, my CI is now down to 159 failing builds \o/
[22:23] <shadeslayer> from over 200
[22:25] <sgclark> shadeslayer: https://paste.kde.org/pcl74nrvx
[22:25] <shadeslayer> there's something wrong
[22:25] <shadeslayer> what's debianmerge.sh
[22:25] <shadeslayer> Stopping at filesystem boundary (GIT_DISCOVERY_ACROSS_FILESYSTEM not set).
[22:26] <shadeslayer> something is very very wrong :P
[22:26] <shadeslayer> would also recommend using bash
[22:26] <shadeslayer> a good idea would also be to nuke the repos and start fresh I guess
[22:27] <shadeslayer> CONFLICT (rename/delete): debian/libkf5bluezqt6.symbols deleted in HEAD and renamed in master. Version master of debian/libkf5bluezqt6.symbols left in tree. < yeah, I haven't merged bluez
[22:27] <shadeslayer> what's odd is the git file discovery stuff
[22:27] <shadeslayer> clearly it's gone into some odd dire
[22:27] <shadeslayer> *dir
[22:29] <sgclark> I just made the commands you pasted into a file. nothing more.
[22:29] <sgclark> no crazy voodoo.
[22:30] <sgclark> just did bluez
[22:30] <shadeslayer> dunno then, not sure why it'd go into some random dir
[22:30] <shadeslayer> perhaps sh is weird
[22:30] <shadeslayer> anyway, I'm heading to bed
[22:30] <shadeslayer> night ^_^
[22:32] <sgclark> good night.


[00:02] <dtchen_> are the irc channels for UDS logged?
[00:02] <dtchen_> err, the room-specific irc channels
[00:04] <ScottK> dtchen_: I have a complete backscroll for all of them if there's something you want.
[00:07] <tsimpson> dtchen_: http://ubottu.com/uds-logs
[00:07] <dtchen_> tsimpson: / ScottK: thanks
[00:09] <dtchen_> bah, 20091116 seems missing for alamo2
[00:09] <tsimpson> times are UTC+2, and UDS is UTC-6 I think
[00:11] <tsimpson> hmm, actually some of it does seem to be missing
[00:12] <tsimpson> oh well, someone has logs I'm sure
[00:15] <dtchen_> ok, gobby it is, then
[00:15] <tsimpson> I remember now, we just didn't start logging until half-way through the first day
[00:16] <tsimpson> no one had thought to get some logging before then
[00:16] <tsimpson> so it was a bit of a scramble to get it up
[00:26] <dtchen_> l
[00:31] <ScottK> Let me look if I have it.
[00:32] <ScottK> dtchen_: I have that day.  What time do you want?
[00:36] <dtchen_> ScottK: 1200-1300
[00:47] <maxb> james_w: Is there any reason why the udd task on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/udd/+bug/248447 should remain open?
[00:48] <maxb> or https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/udd/+bug/91579 for that matter
[01:26] <dtchen_> pitti: hi, do you know of any changes in karmic-proposed's udev that might cause bug #424655?
[01:28] <dtchen_> s/proposed/updates/
[01:35] <pitti> dtchen_: well, obviously I cannot rule out weird toolchain changes, but the actual code changes just fix an fd leak and an eternal loop in inotify handling (which doesn't actually affect the .deb by sheer luck, just when you build with -O0)
[01:36] <pitti> dtchen_: IOW, it added a missing closedir() and fixed a variable type; no memory allocation changes at all
[01:36] <pitti> ah, in comment 43?
[01:37] <pitti> dtchen_: so, one potential explanation would be that said fd leak made udev completely stop recognizing new hardware on a lot of systems
[01:37] <pitti> so the fix might uncover another leak by adding/probing sound hw which previously didn't appear in udev (since it simply stopped working because of exceeding the 1024 fd limit)
[01:38] <dtchen_> pitti: hmm, right.
[01:38]  * pitti asks on bug report
[01:39] <micahg> pitti: can I talk to you about a blueprint?
[01:41] <dtchen_> pitti: thanks!
[01:41] <pitti> dtchen_: done
[01:41] <pitti> micahg: just ask :)
[01:42] <pitti> micahg: are you here @ UDS?
[01:42] <micahg> no
[01:42] <pitti> ok
[01:42]  * pitti in need of food and beer :)
[01:43] <micahg1> but I subscribed to some blueprints to keep up to date
[01:43] <micahg> I was wondering about https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-bug-management
[01:43] <micahg> it mentioned subscribing uploaders to bugs for a few days
[01:43] <micahg> I wanted to suggest only subscribing them if apport caught their version as the one being reported on
[01:43] <pitti> right; it's something that we already discussed last cycle, but didn't get to implementing
[01:44] <pitti> micahg: right, it'd certainly check the package version if the bug report has it
[01:45] <micahg> ok, great, didn't see that in there, so I thought I'd mention it
[01:46] <ScottK> dtchen_: OK.  I should have that for you in a moment.
[01:48] <ScottK> dtchen_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/322064/
[01:48] <ScottK> There isn't a lot
[03:10] <krisives> Hey how can I add screenshots?
[03:11] <Hobbsee> to?
[03:11] <krisives> Like in the Software Center when it says "No Screenshot"
[03:13] <krisives> http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6360/screenshot003fw.png
[03:14] <Hobbsee> good question
[03:14]  * Hobbsee only just discovered that
[03:14] <krisives> It's in Synaptic too
[03:15] <krisives> http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3626/screenshot004kl.png
[03:16] <krisives> http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/8924/screenshot005z.png
[03:16] <Hobbsee> i have no idea
[03:16] <krisives> I just don't know where the repository for that would be
[03:16] <Hobbsee> mvo should know, it appears, but it's very late where they all are
[03:17] <Hobbsee> mpt: should also know, it seems
[03:17] <mpt> Hobbsee, http://screenshots.ubuntu.com/
[03:18] <Hobbsee> ah!
[03:18] <Hobbsee> i was looking for something like that
[03:18] <Hobbsee> that's very cool :)
[03:19] <krisives> mpt: THANK YOU! :D::D:D:D:D:D:
[03:19] <mpt> O_o
[03:19] <mpt> You're welcome
[03:53] <dtchen_> ScottK: thanks!
[03:53] <dtchen_> maco: not all quirk lookups are via PCI SSIDs; some broken hardware requires the codec SSID
[03:54] <dtchen_> (I have a blog post half-written explaining all this mess)
[03:56] <ScottK> Hobbsee: The screenshots are from screenshots.debian.org (or net, I'm not sure)
[03:56] <ScottK> Ah, read the whole backlog first.
[03:58] <Hobbsee> ScottK: cheers :)
[04:08]  * ScottK waves back to Hobbsee.
[09:43] <Lindows> so, okay, I need a sanity check...
[09:43] <Lindows> I first installed kubuntu 9.10 x64 with ext4
[09:44] <Lindows> I ran md5sum of a windowsXP virtual image, one stored on a samba share in ext3
[09:44] <Lindows> against the local copy in ext4, the checksums didn't match
[09:44] <Lindows> repeated the experiment after reinstalling kubuntu using ext3 instead.....the checksums also don't match
[09:44] <Lindows> maybe I don't understand md5sum?
[09:45] <Lindows> I thought it was deterministic
[10:57] <engla> DktrKranz: ciao; don't package kupfer c18 yet, there will be a small release for bugfixes
[10:58] <engla> DktrKranz: otherwise, upstream gap closing going well, c18 will install into $DATADIR
[10:59] <DktrKranz> engla: sure thing
[11:00] <DktrKranz> and thanks for addressing my boring attitudes :)
[11:00] <engla> everything makes so much sense now. $DATADIR is fantastic :-)
[11:00] <engla> the idea to use it, that is
[12:56] <Hiram> Hi all. I'm trying to roll a .deb package for Snort <IP_ADDRESS>. It all goes well, but it's not including the snort config files. could anyone help me out with this?
[12:56] <LucidFox> Short config files?
[12:57] <Hiram> they can be.
[12:57] <Hiram> they're pretty well commented, but i could cut them down.
[13:41] <Chipzz> Hiram: #ubuntu-motu pls
[13:42] <Chipzz> Hiram: also, debian has a package for snort - why are you creating your own?
[13:54] <Hiram> Chipzz: because i need a package for <IP_ADDRESS>, the one that's out now is only <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:55] <philsf> In Jaunty I used to set my keyboard settings in /etc/default/console-setup, but it's being ignored now in Karmic, both for console and X. I need to use setxkbmap everytime I login and also everytime I switch to the console. How can I set my keyboard variant permanently now?
[13:56] <philsf> sorry for asking here, but I already tried in #ubuntu, and #ubuntu-x
[15:13] <maco> dtchen_: i only know how much youve explained so far. pleeeeeeeeeease finish that blog post so i can learn more ;-)
[15:20] <soren> maco: Definitely.
[15:21] <maco> soren: re vmbuilder?
[15:22] <soren> maco: Oui, oui.
[15:35] <_follower_> hi, if a tty has a pending newline and then fills the input buffer it no longer responds to ^C etc or bells.   this seems to be a pervasive "issue" across multiple OS, but I'm not sure if it's considered "correct behaviour" or not. possibly relevant code is 'n_tty_receive_room' in 'n_tty.c' and http://lwn.net/Articles/123724/ suggests that at least some of the code is considered suspect. is there a better place than here to mention this? :) if i
[15:35] <_follower_> considered a bug then I can file something, but i wasn't sure if it was just considered expected behaviour--even though it ends up leaving a terminal which you can't do anything with unless you kill the program. to test you can do e.g. perl -e "sleep 1000".
[15:47] <_follower_> hmmm, apparently the relevant code might now be around " n_tty_set_room"
[15:58] <vadi2> Will there ever be a  public response from Ubuntu Developers to the PulseAudio failfest and people dumping Ubuntu because of it failing so much?
[15:58] <vadi2> http://tycheent.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/pulseaudio-revisited#comments is just sad to read.
[17:18] <soreau> Hello folks
[17:19] <soreau> I am having trouble assisting a user in #compiz because he is trying to get the fire effect working but /usr/lib/compiz/libanimationaddon.so does not exist. So I had him do 'sudo aptitude remove --purge compiz-fusion-plugins-extra && sudo aptitude install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra' but the file still does not exist. It is a 64bit jaunty install. Why is this file not being installed?
[17:21] <couannette> hi
[17:21] <soreau> I can not come up with any conceivable scenario where this could happen and I am out of ideas. Might anyone know how this could be possible?
[17:21] <couannette> is it possible to use 'germinate' to merge two archives or two configurations ?
[17:22] <micahg> soreau: according to packages.ubuntu.com, it's in there
[17:22] <soreau> micahg: I know that, that's is why I am completely baffled
[17:23] <soreau> Here is the output of his 'dpkg -l | grep compiz' http://pastebin.ca/1677983
[17:24] <soreau> and the output of the re-installation command I gave him: http://pastebin.ca/1677973
[17:24] <soreau> Other than having him install the file manually, I don't know what else to do
[17:26] <soreau> more than anything, I want to know how this can possibly happen. Because when I tell a user to reinstall a package, I expect it to restore/replace/populate all files contained in the package
[17:28] <cragdor> Hi all, who is the best person to talk to about the development of UbuntuOneMusic store
[17:28] <StevenK> soreau: He is using another source in his sources.list that has a greater version than in Jaunty, and it doesn't provide that library?
[17:29] <soreau> StevenK: Even on Karmic, the package and file name situation is the same but I will investigate this possibility
[17:29] <StevenK> soreau: apt-cache policy will help determine that
[17:29] <soreau> StevenK: I had him output this
[17:31] <soreau> StevenK: http://pastebin.ca/1677938
[17:31] <soreau> I have to run, but I will bbi~45
[17:31] <soreau> I will remain logged in here
[17:31] <soreau> any other suggestions appreciated
[17:31] <StevenK> That's -main, not -extra
[17:32] <micahg> soreau: according to your first pastebin, the version is not from the archive
[17:32] <micahg> http://pastebin.ca/1677973
[17:54] <jdong> dammit...
[17:54] <jdong> I lost my build system
[17:54]  * jdong waits for 60 minute dyndns timeout
[17:55] <jdong> it is generally bad (intra)netiquette to try your SSH pubkey against a /16 subnet, right? ;-)
[18:04] <ebroder> jdong: Did you upload bug #463429, or should I subscribe sponsors?
[18:35] <pecisk> GIMP will be gone in Lucid default, true?
[18:36] <StevenK> What gives you that idea?
[18:37] <pecisk> StevenK, Slashdot as always http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/11/19/1342230
[18:37] <StevenK> But that requires reading Slashdot
[18:38] <tgpraveen1> it is true
[18:38] <soreau> micahg: Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't notice it said ppa
[18:38] <tgpraveen1> pittivi is going to be included
[18:38] <pecisk> rocks
[18:38] <tgpraveen1> probably
[18:39] <pecisk> it is not said that dropping GIMP from default isn't smart - true, most of people won't use it
[18:39] <pecisk> I just hope it stays in main :)
[18:45] <ebroder> jdong: Oh, also, could you accept the jaunty/karmic milestones for bug #463429?
[18:47] <soreau> Thanks for the help too StevenK
[18:50] <soreau> So if it says http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty/main Packages and not http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty/main Packages this means it's a ppa repo and not official packages
[18:50] <soreau> err...
[18:50] <soreau> paste fail
[18:50] <soreau> So if it says http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty/main Packages and not http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages Packages this means it's a ppa repo and not official packages
[19:22] <StevenK> soreau: That's correct -- it's from a PPA, not the archive
[19:25] <pkern> Riddell: Seriously?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gobby/+bug/485408 breaking all translations?
[19:28] <pkern> Riddell: IMHO you cannot assume that C is en_US albeit it might be common.  And I even NACKed this change with a reason to the bug log.  I don't see the point in opening a bug if one uploads anyway.
[20:42] <tjaalton> is the devel subscription of lwn still available?
[20:43] <ajmitch> I believe so, there's an ubuntu members group for it
[20:44] <ajmitch> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/LWN has the details
[20:44] <tjaalton> ah, so the contact person has changed.. thanks
[21:51] <Keybuk> what is the .ssh/known_hosts file hashed by?
[21:59] <wamty> Ubuntu will drop GIMP?
[21:59] <wamty> why?
[22:00] <ebroder> Don't trust what you read on /. It's being removed from the /CDs/, not Ubuntu altogether
[22:02] <ion> If it’s on Slashdot – especially Slashdot comments – it must be true.
[22:03] <ebroder> Of course. What was I thinking
[22:07] <wamty> ebroder: any idea why?
[22:07] <wamty> the /. headings have gotten increasingly more misleading in the last few years
[22:07] <ebroder> I wasn't involved in the decision, but I can only guess it's because GIMP is a crappy excuse for a UI
[22:09] <wamty> ebroder: compared to what?
[22:09] <wamty> btw f-spot is what the article mentioned
[22:10] <ebroder> Yes, I believe that's what's being used as thh replacement
[22:13] <wamty> ah
[22:15] <wamty> fspot is a gimp replacement now??
[22:15] <ion> For most basic users, sure. Advanced users are free to install the advanced software of their choice.
[22:18] <wamty> f-spot looks like an iPhoto app, not photoshop
[22:18] <ebroder> WHich is what basic users need for photo editing
[22:19] <wamty> I imagine gimp must be massive otherwise it shouldn't be an issue
[22:20] <wamty> especially when you include the dependancies.
[22:20] <ebroder> The Live CD is tight enough on space that it doesn't have to be massive to be an issue
[22:20] <wamty> whats the issue then?


[16:30] <mdeslaur> \o
[16:30] <ratliff> \o/
[16:30] <jdstrand> hi!
[16:31] <ratliff> #startmeeting
[16:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Aug  6 16:31:08 2018 UTC.  The chair is ratliff. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:31] <leosilva> o/
[16:31] <ratliff> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[16:31] <ratliff> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[16:31] <ratliff> [TOPIC] Announcements
[16:31] <ratliff> We have no new announcements this week.
[16:31] <ratliff> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[16:32] <ratliff> jdstrand: you're up
[16:32] <jdstrand> This week I plan to work on:
[16:32] <jdstrand> - finishing the socketcall() deprecation in snapd
[16:32] <jdstrand> - brand store snap declarations
[16:32] <jdstrand> - various snapd PR reviews
[16:32] <jdstrand> - kubernetes-support interfaces
[16:32] <jdstrand> - embargoed issue
[16:32] <jdstrand> mdeslaur: you're up
[16:34] <mdeslaur> I'm in the happy place this week
[16:34] <mdeslaur> I'm travelling all week, I'll be back next tuesday
[16:34] <mdeslaur> I'm doing some travel preparations today and re-spinning some embargoed packages
[16:35] <mdeslaur> that's about it
[16:35] <mdeslaur> sbeattie: you're up
[16:35] <sbeattie> I'm on bug triage this week
[16:35] <sbeattie> I have some kernel triage and signoffs to do.
[16:35] <sbeattie> I also have intel-microcode updates sitting in the security-proposed ppa to be tested and published.
[16:35] <sbeattie> I have an embargoed issue pending.
[16:36] <sbeattie> And I have a mountain of email to go through now that I'm back from vacation.
[16:36] <sbeattie> That's the highlights for me; jjohansen, you're up.
[16:39] <ratliff> I'll go ahead and we can circle back around to jjohansen in a bit.
[16:39] <jjohansen> need to look into 1783922 and report regression around bind mounts on 4.18
[16:39] <ratliff> I'm on CVE triage this week.
[16:39] <ratliff> I'm working on an embargoed issue, internal work.
[16:40] <ratliff> I also plan to publish information about our CVE assignments to MITRE this week (via github).
[16:40] <ratliff> oops, jjohansen go ahead, sorry to interrupt
[16:40] <jjohansen> not at all
[16:41] <jjohansen> I need to look into 1783922 and report regression around bind mounts on 4.18
[16:41] <jjohansen> then I need to look into the latest revisions in dhowell's mount rework around apparmor
[16:41] <jjohansen> and I really need to try and get to mjgs secmark patch for apparmor, I expect that will take the rest of the week and then some
[16:41] <jjohansen> if I have time after those I will go back to the work needed to finish getting apparmor 3.0 out the door
[16:41] <jjohansen> the largest item remaining is dealing with the differences between 2 feature abi sets (kernel and policy)
[16:42] <jjohansen> thats it for me, sarnold you are up
[16:42] <ratliff> I think that sarnold is travelling today
[16:42] <jjohansen> oh right, debconf
[16:42] <ratliff> leosilva: you are up
[16:42] <leosilva> I'm in the happy place
[16:43] <leosilva> I finished some min ago the libxcursor usn and will follow to the next lftp
[16:43] <leosilva> other than that I'm hunting
[16:43] <leosilva> msalvatore: you're up
[16:43] <msalvatore> I'm in the happy place this week.
[16:43] <msalvatore> I spent last week working through improvements/additions to some internal tooling.
[16:43] <msalvatore> This week I'm focusing on performing security updates to some packages in universe.
[16:44] <msalvatore> that's it for me. ebarretto, you're up.
[16:44] <ebarretto> I'm in the happy place this week:
[16:44] <ebarretto> - I'm working on libtomcrypt update ... planning on releasing it today.
[16:44] <ebarretto> - next packages to be updated still to be decided.
[16:44] <ebarretto> - if you find any issues on the updated packages, please let us know asap, thanks!
[16:44] <ebarretto> - and thank you all that reported issues on jansson last week!
[16:44] <ebarretto> ratliff, back to you
[16:45] <ratliff> thank you!
[16:45] <ratliff> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[16:45] <ratliff> The Ubuntu Security team suggests that contributors look into merging Debian security updates in community-supported packages. If you would like to help Ubuntu but are not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.
[16:45] <ratliff> See http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/d2u/ for available merges and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details on preparing Ubuntu security updates. If you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-hardened. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.
[16:45] <ratliff> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[16:45] <ratliff> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[16:48] <ratliff> jdstrand, mdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, leosilva, msalvatore, ebarretto: Thanks!
[16:48] <ratliff> #endmeeting
[16:48] <jjohansen> thanks ratliff
[16:48] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Aug  6 16:48:29 2018 UTC.
[16:48] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2018/ubuntu-meeting.2018-08-06-16.31.moin.txt
[16:48] <mdeslaur> thanks ratliff!
[16:48] <leosilva> thanks ratliff!
[16:48] <sbeattie> ratliff: thanks!
[16:48] <ebarretto> thanks ratliff
[16:58] <jdstrand> thanks ratliff :)


[23:00] <h00pz> anyone here an expert on juju openstack ?
[23:47] <magicaltrout> https://www.facebook.com/viralthread/videos/639208362918517/
[23:47] <magicaltrout> need to get this on in gent