[00:00] <sudoer> DasEi: i ididnt know diff can handle this
[00:00] <sudoer> shcherbak: blocks?
[00:00] <jahbulon> Stereocaulon, ok ...
[00:00] <shcherbak> sudoer: em, columns?
[00:00] <sudoer> oh, columns
[00:00] <major_redhat> and all i want to do is be able to play minecraft on my linux machine and that would be super awesome
[00:01] <shcherbak> sudoer: so grep and diff and loop would be faster, but need awk
[00:01] <jahbulon> Stereocaulon thanks for infos
[00:01] <Stereocaulon> jahbulon, np
[00:01] <major_redhat> i don't know if it helps, but i'm running 10.04 64-bit
[00:01] <katzee> how is this possible?
[00:01] <DasEi> YiamiYo: pm you ?
[00:02] <YiamiYo> DasEi, sure
[00:02] <YiamiYo> DasEi, it says something about otr :s
[00:03] <major_redhat> any ideas? following the standalone instructions on the java website isnt going to help if i cant log in as root
[00:03] <zerodowntime> seriously, can anyone help me with this port forwarding issue I am having with openssh server, ubuntu 10.10, and a linksyse wrt54g router? i have already spent half a day trying to get this to work
[00:04] <major_redhat> zerodowntime: do you know the ip address of the router
[00:04] <Stereocaulon> major_redhat, You'll probably have to ditch the default Java and install Sun/ Oracle Java instead.
[00:04] <zerodowntime> yes i do and i have it all set up on the router
[00:04] <shcherbak> zerodowntime: DZM is option in WRT
[00:04] <major_redhat> Stereocaulon: i assume thats through the ubuntu software center?
[00:04] <SaMuRai> Welcom to >>>> http://salon-rhone-alpes.skyrock.com/ <<<< ;)
[00:05] <zerodowntime> problem is whenever i nmap my ip it does not show up as ssh open
[00:05] <lcojtpb> everytime i try to play a movie with movie player i get could not read from source how do i fix this?
[00:05] <zerodowntime> tried the dmz - same thing
[00:05] <shcherbak> zerodowntime: own firewall?
[00:05] <Stereocaulon> major_redhat, the ditching part..yes, you can do that through Software center, but I recommend Synaptic for this
[00:06] <shcherbak> zerodowntime: does nmap works in Lan?
[00:06] <zerodowntime> no firewall on the computer - i can ssh locally between a netbook via wireless to my desktop which is wired through my router
[00:06] <Stereocaulon> major_redhat, through Synaptic you can also install Sun/ Oracle Java, provided you have Universe enabled
[00:06] <zerodowntime> but i can not ssh outside the network
[00:07] <MichaelKohler> I've now tried to start SGD from a usb-stick, but I only get two options "default" and "list devices/partitions".. when I select one of them (doesn't matter which one) ", a message is displayed "automatic boot in 10 seconds.." counting down, after that the countdown begins again
[00:07] <major_redhat> Stereocaulon: synaptic is open, what entries am i looking for to filter
[00:08] <Stereocaulon> sun-java
[00:08] <Stereocaulon> major_redhat, sun-java
[00:08] <snake_> does anyone know how to remote desktop another ubuntu computer?
[00:08] <major_redhat> Stereocaulon: thanks
[00:08] <Stereocaulon> major_redhat, np
[00:08] <shcherbak> zerodowntime: check Iptables, try to ssh/telnet router (set remote administration)
[00:09] <shcherbak> zerodowntime: (via pulic IP)
[00:09] <shcherbak> public
[00:09] <zerodowntime> so ssh works from 192.168.100 (desktop) and 192.168.104 (netbook) but if i try to ssh directly to my ip it says the connection is refused. i set up the router to portforward 22-22 to <IP_ADDRESS> but it says the connection is refused. if i nmap the local ip ssh is open but the external ip shows nothing
[00:10] <Stereocaulon> snake__, just enable Preferences => Remote Access => Enable Other users to view your desktop/ Use your desktop
[00:10] <MichaelKohler> bad internet connection, sorry
[00:10] <snake_> Stereocaulon, thanks
[00:11] <Stereocaulon> snake_, remember to disable visual desktop effects on the target computer, or your VNC session won't work
[00:11] <echoecho> Hello! I am trying to upgrade subversion to 1.6, but when I run "apt-get update" and similar it seems the latest in the Ubuntu repository is 1.4. How can I add 1.6 to my sources? Do I need to look for unstable?
[00:11] <shcherbak> zerodowntime: try to check if router is accesable from public (not lan) side, best to set remote admin. That
[00:12] <Stereocaulon> echoecho, use a PPA for subversion if you want a higher version, or compile it yourself
[00:12] <echoecho> What's a PPA?
[00:12] <major_redhat> Stereocaulon: anything specific i should mark for installation? im using 64bit linux
[00:12] <Stereocaulon> !ppa | echoecho
[00:13] <echoecho> Ah, gotcha. Why is 1.4 the latest in the repositories? Hasn't 1.6 been out for like a year?
[00:13] <jihedamine> anyone knows an applet to easily access documents ? (bookmark...)
[00:13] <zerodowntime> so i set iptables to iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport ssh -j ACCEPT
[00:13] <Stereocaulon> major_redhat, I'm also using 64-bit Linux just use sun-java and you'll probably need Java3D as well, don't know if that's is in the repo's though
[00:13] <jihedamine> (a gnome applet)
[00:13] <major_redhat> ah ok
[00:15] <Stereocaulon> echoecho, the Ubuntu release team requires a lot of testing, before any version can be included in the main package source. That's why it takes a while, sometimes it might not come out until the next release of Ubuntu
[00:15] <zerodowntime> output is ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:ssh  but still not able to ssh outside of external ip
[00:15] <echoecho> Stereocaulon: Gotcha. No problem as long as I have an option. How can I migrate from an typical "apt-get" install to a "PPA" install? Do I have to disable one?
[00:16] <BonSequitur> Okay, quick question. I installed Xubuntu, but I want to have a Gnome environment installed as well. However, apt-get install gnome depends on both swfdec-mozilla and epiphany-extensions, which of course are mutually exclusive.
[00:16] <Stereocaulon> echoecho, you don't have to "migrate", just include the PPA in your sources, if it exists on Launchpad
[00:16] <shcherbak> zerodowntime: yes, but have you tried to hook up to dls with on router?
[00:16] <shcherbak> *DSL*
[00:16] <echoecho> Stereocaulon: so if I just include a PPA of subversion and say "apt-get update && ... upgrade" it will grab either the PPA or the official, whichever is newer?
[00:17] <Stereocaulon> echoecho, https://launchpad.net/~anders-kaseorg/+archive/subversion-1.6
[00:17] <Stereocaulon> echoecho, try at *your own* risk
[00:17] <echoecho> Stereocaulon: fair enough :)
[00:17] <Stereocaulon> echoecho, yes, that is correct, the PPA will override the normal version
[00:19] <Stereocaulon> echoecho, no guarantees that this new version will play nice with available frontends. Another thing is that this package might require different libraries that may conflict with other packages.
[00:19] <echoecho> Stereocaulon: gotcha. I will try this on a dev machine before live.
[00:19] <Stereocaulon> echoecho, smart move ;-)
[00:19] <MichaelKohler> Jordan_U, DasEi: I've now tried to start SGD from a usb-stick, but I only get two options "default" and "list devices/partitions".. when I select one of them (doesn't matter which one) ", a message is displayed "automatic boot in 10 seconds.." counting down, after that the countdown begins again
[00:20] <DasEi> MichaelKohler: busy right now, back in ~20min
[00:21] <MichaelKohler> okay :)
[00:22] <yggdrasil> hlloe, can somone tell me what a linux-image-2.6.32-305-ec2  image is ,, whats the ec2 ?
[00:23] <Jordan_U> MichaelKohler: How did you create the USB stick?
[00:24] <MichaelKohler> Jordan_U: using UNetBootin
[00:24] <Jordan_U> MichaelKohler: Unetbootin doesn't work with Super GRUB2 Disk.
[00:25] <MichaelKohler> oh
[00:25] <MichaelKohler> does the Startup Disk Creator work?
[00:26] <Jordan_U> MichaelKohler: Unfortunately no, you need to use the terminal based utility "dd" to make a bootable USB with Super GRUB2 Disk.
[00:27] <MichaelKohler> Jordan_U: could you tell me how to do so or do I need to google it myself? :)
[00:27] <DasEi> MichaelKohler: unebootin works fine too
[00:27] <Jordan_U> MichaelKohler: I will tell you :)
[00:27] <Jordan_U> DasEi: Not with Super GRUB2 Disk.
[00:28] <jahbulon> i have a memory stick ... format in ntfs ...can ubuntu format it ?
[00:28] <Keith-BlindUser> I'm wondering how to get USB microphones working under Ubuntu? I'm not sure if the USb microphone name can easily be discovered so that you can just set the volume of that device with amixer or osmething, but that would be cool if I could figure out how to get that working.
[00:28] <Jordan_U> MichaelKohler: Do you have any data on the USB drive that you want to keep?
[00:28] <DasEi> Jordan_U: sure dd does the trick ? I succesfully did (unetbootin/sdg2)
[00:28] <MichaelKohler> Jordan_U: no
[00:29] <katzee> i cant restore the network monitor icon on the notification area
[00:29] <Jordan_U> DasEi: I'm sure dd works. Last time I tried unetbootin it didn't work (and I didn't expect it to). Did you test all of the menu entries?
[00:29] <katzee> it disappeared installing Wicd
[00:30] <DasEi> Jordan_U: yes, but it was a version smaller then the newest 1.2 or such
[00:30] <Jordan_U> DasEi: I'm the developer of Super GRUB2 Disk so if unetbootin now works I'd like to advertise that in the documentation :)
[00:30] <DasEi> Jordan_U: I will verify and call you back :)
[00:30] <hiexpo> katzee, you have to reinstall networlk manager than because wicd reokaced it
[00:30] <Jordan_U> DasEi: Thanks.
[00:30] <jahbulon> i tried to erase an usb ..and that's the error "org.freedesktop.UDisks.Error.Inhibited: Daemon is inhibited"
[00:31] <katzee> hiexpo: yep
[00:31] <Jordan_U> MichaelKohler: First you need to find the device name for your USB drive and unmount any partitions on it.
[00:33] <Jordan_U> MichaelKohler: If you run "sudo blkid" and pastebin the output I can tell you what device (/dev/sd?) is your USB drive.
[00:34] <MichaelKohler_> I guess I'll need to buy a router with 2 antennas
[00:34] <jahbulon> sudo blkid
[00:34] <YiamiYo> DasEi, it works now
[00:34] <YiamiYo> DasEi, i just rebooted with live cd then reboot here and it's ok..xd
[00:34] <Jordan_U> MichaelKohler: If you run "sudo blkid" and pastebin the output I can tell you what device (/dev/sd?) is your USB drive.
[00:35] <MichaelKohler> sdb1 ;)
[00:35] <katzee> everyone on the forums say to add a "notification area" to the panel, but it doesnt work for me
[00:35] <Vadtec> howdy all, i asked earlier about a problem im having with DHCP/my motorola cable modem
[00:35] <Vadtec> i am running 10.04 LTS and having issues with DHCP not getting an IP from my cable modem
[00:35] <Vadtec> i shouldnt need a cross over cable to hook to the modem should i?
[00:35] <DasEi> YiamiYo: working now ?
[00:36] <DasEi> YiamiYo: or just the live works, but not the cd in hd-boot ?
[00:36] <marsfligth> what program to play karaoke?
[00:37] <Vadtec> i can connect my windows laptop to the modem just fine and DHCP works, but when I try to get ubuntu connected via DHCP, it get nothing
[00:37] <DasEi> Vadtec: depends if you modem has a switch, just one jack ?
[00:37] <marsfligth> I mean *.kar files
[00:37] <Jordan_U> MichaelKohler: Ok. Be *absolutely sure* that is your USB drive, as we are going to whipe whatever drive you select when we write SG2D to it.
[00:37] <Vadtec> DasEi: just one jack
[00:37] <YiamiYo> DasEi, it works with my installed system to
[00:37] <YiamiYo> too*
[00:37] <YiamiYo> DasEi, tyvm!
[00:37] <YiamiYo> cya
[00:37] <DasEi> YiamiYo: so we magically fixed it ?
[00:37] <MichaelKohler> Jordan_U: I am
[00:37] <DasEi> !yay
[00:38] <soki> anybody knows working undernet server?
[00:38] <Vadtec> DasEi: its rather weird...when i ran CentOS, i never had a problem with dhcp
[00:38] <DasEi> Vadtec: try sudo pppoeconf
[00:38] <Vadtec> DasEi: does ubuntu require dhcpserver to be installed along side dhcpclient to fully use dhcp?
[00:39] <DasEi> Vadtec: no
[00:39] <DasEi> Vadtec: but a modem itself provides no dhcp, it get's the adress from provider
[00:39] <Jordan_U> MichaelKohler: Run "sudo umount /dev/sb1" to be sure there isn't a mounted partition on that drive then run "sudo dd if=/path/to/super_grub_disk_hybrid-1.98s1.iso of=/dev/sdb". Note that it's "sdb" that you want to write to and *not* "sdb1".
[00:39] <DasEi> Vadtec: try sudo pppoeconf
[00:40] <Vadtec> DasEi: yeah, about to, ill have to disconnect this lappy, ive me a few minutes to give this a whirl (my bnc will remain connected, cause BNC > *)
[00:40] <MichaelKohler> Jordan_U: it's copied
[00:41] <MichaelKohler> Jordan_U: now I can start from usb again, right?
[00:41] <DasEi> Vadtec: sure
[00:41] <Jordan_U> MichaelKohler: Yes.
[00:41] <buzain> i there an open source alternative to microsoft active directory that can be used for authentication and single sign on?
[00:42] <buzain> i=is
[00:42] <DasEi> Jordan_U: loop boot confirmed, no avail on latest sdg via unetbootin
[00:43] <MichaelKohler> Jordan_U: didn't help, I have still the same problem as before
[00:43] <ivanoats> hey folks.. i am doing a MBR recovery after installing win 7. Booted up a live usb of ubuntu. In /dev I have sda, sda1, sdb and sdb1thru 4  - how do I tell grub which one is my win partition and which is my old ubuntu 10.10 ?
[00:44] <Vadtec> DasEi: no luck, ppoeconf just timed out on both interfaces
[00:45] <al_nz1> i like the new version but how do I turn off locking the desktop every ten or so minutes of inactivity?
[00:46] <DasEi> Vadtec: strange, if it works with same cable on other oss'es,..just do the same setup and then :
[00:46] <toonacid> ivanoats: Find which one is ntfs.
[00:46] <Jordan_U> MichaelKohler: Did you reboot with the USB in or did you remove the USB drive while you were still booted? If you removed the USB drive it may not have actually written anything to the drive by the time you removed it.
[00:46] <Vadtec> DasEi: i have eth0 setup to use DHCP, just like this windows laptop
[00:46] <DasEi> Vadtec: ahh, other machine , 1 connection, no switch .. what a hassle :
[00:46] <MichaelKohler_> al_nz1: System->Preferences->Screensaver
[00:46] <Keith-BlindUser> Did anyone get my USB microphone question?
[00:46] <Vadtec> DasEi: i have a 24 port switch, but my ISP only provides one IP
[00:47] <al_nz1> ta
[00:47] <DasEi> Vadtec: on the not working one, what is in /etc/resolve.conf ?
[00:47] <ivanoats> toonacid:  good idea, how do I do that :-)
[00:47] <Vadtec> DasEi: my goal is to use my ubunut box as my firewall+router
[00:47] <Vadtec> DasEi: sec
[00:47] <DasEi> Vadtec: on the not working one, what is in /etc/resolv.conf ? ^typo
[00:47] <Dulak> Vadtec: DSL or cable?
[00:47] <Vadtec> DasEi: it only has # Generated by NetworkManager
[00:48] <Vadtec> DasEi: cable
[00:48] <MichaelKohler> Jordan_U: I removed it and stuck it into another pc
[00:48] <DasEi> Jordan_U: jupp, and dd just fine, nice, even easier then
[00:49] <Jordan_U> MichaelKohler: Try doing it again but run "sync" afterward and "eject" the device via nautilus before unplugging it.
[00:49] <Dulak> Vadtec: did you power cycle the cable modem since you switched things around?  cable modem's cache the mac address from the connected nic for efficiency, whenever you change you have to reboot the modem to make it forget this info
[00:49] <DasEi> Vadtec: so dhcp is the way t o go
[00:49] <Vadtec> Dulak: at least once, but ill give it a try again
[00:49] <Jordan_U> DasEi: I don't understand what you meant by "loop boot confirmed, no avail on latest sdg via unetbootin".
[00:50] <DasEi> Vadtec: you got two interfaces on that borking machine ?
[00:50] <Vadtec> DasEi: yeah
[00:50] <Vadtec> DasEi: yes
[00:50] <Vadtec> DasEi: eth0 is the wan side, eth1 is the lan side
[00:50] <Dulak> Vadtec: do you have link green on the modem and the nic it's plugged to?
[00:50] <Vadtec> Dulak: id have to flog my self if i didnt :P
[00:50] <DasEi> Jordan_U:you where right, unetbootin doesn't work no more with latest sdg2, it jumps back to start after 10 secsãutoboot
[00:51] <Dulak> Vadtec: just covering all bases here, it should just work with cable, you dhcp and it should get a public ip assigned
[00:51] <DasEi> Vadtec: de-configure eth2 in /etc/network/interfaces
[00:51] <DasEi> Vadtec: comment that block out (#)
[00:52] <Vadtec> DasEi: to what effect?
[00:52] <Vadtec> DasEi: you mean eth1?
[00:52] <Vadtec> DasEi: its statically configured
[00:52] <Vadtec> DasEi: and its not even hooked up to the switch atm
[00:52] <DasEi> Vadtec: so one can take down and up the nic manually, eth1 o'course
[00:53] <DasEi> Vadtec: switch would be handy, as of no jump around
[00:53] <Vadtec> DasEi: im going to try power cycling this silly modem again, maybe ill get lucky
[00:53] <Vadtec> DasEi: back in about 5...hopefully from ubuntu this time!
[00:54] <MichaelKohler> Jordan_U: now I can't boot from USB and when I try to mount it on my working system it says "error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1
[00:55] <Nayr> I LOVE MY LIFE
[00:55] <cyphase> is there any way to get a listing of a directory on a removable hard drive that isn't connected? the drive's gone bad and i want to see what was in the root directory
[00:55] <cyphase> i thought mayb there was some way to dig into nautilus metafiles or something
[00:55] <Jordan_U> MichaelKohler: Since it's a hybrid CD/USB image to mount it you would actually run "sudo mount /dev/sdb /mnt/" rather than sdb1.
[00:55] <cyphase> maybe*
[00:56] <ablyss> hi all
[00:56] <DasEi> cyphase: what does gone bad mean ? no more upspin ?
[00:57] <katzee> ok, i can say it's impossible to restore that icon
[00:57] <katzee> i tried everything but the OS reinstall
[00:57] <BonSequitur> Okay, so this one is really weird. I have a Synaptics touchpad configured for true multitouch. Under XFCE, it works perfectly - double-tap middleclicks, that is. However, when I log into a regular Ubuntu desktop session, Gnome seems to gratuitously mess with my settings.
[00:57] <cyphase> DasEi, it spins up, but it won't even show up in /dev. apparently it has to many reallocated sectors, thought i dont know why im not able to at least read it
[00:57] <Jordan_U> MichaelKohler: What happened when you tried to boot from it? Can you mount it now (using sdb instead of sdb1)?
[00:57] <tester> ut oh the Xubuntu 10.10 put me in here by default. Should I ask my question in #xubuntu ???
[00:58] <MichaelKohler> Jordan_U: it just didn't do anything (and kept restarting) and yes, I can mount it now
[00:58] <DasEi> cyphase: tried to fsck the UNmounted drive ? does fdisk -l see it ?
[00:58] <BonSequitur> As a result, the touchpad now slavishly obeys the 'mouse' settings, but also double-tap now right clicks. This is undesirable, but an option for that is annoyingly not actually implemented on the mouse settings applet or in gpointing-devices.
[00:58] <fiber> Hello, I'm having a strange problem that results in 100% cpu usage.  Basically, every once in a while my system cpu usage jumps to 100% although no user programs are straining the cpu at all.  I have an i7 920 and plenty of free ram.  This normally lasts a few minutes and the computer is completely unusable during this time.  Also, it seems that there is increased network usage during this period.  I have a sneaking su
[00:58] <fiber> spicion that it is pulseaudio that is causing the problem simply because it is also messing up with other things (vlc can't play sound most of the time for example)
[00:58] <BonSequitur> Is there some hidden Gnome pointing device config file that I'm missing?
[00:58] <tester> I'll goto there. Please remind them to fix it ;)
[00:58] <cyphase> DasEi, reallocated sectors are at the drive level, and like i said, it wont even show up in /dev. when the computer is booting up it keeps spitting out ata errors
[00:59] <DasEi> cyphase:  does fdisk -l see it ?
[01:00] <cyphase> DasEi, i haven't tried, and it's not connected right now. it did show up in lshw
[01:00] <katzee> i have to stick with wicd -.-
[01:01] <DasEi> cyphase: so yes, your best bet is to dd an image of it, then fsck,testdisk, or- in really bad cases debugfs it
[01:01] <cyphase> DasEi, do an image how?
[01:01] <Four2zero> im trying to output a file to pastebin.com with wgetpaste, but i keep failing to succeed at it.
[01:02] <Jordan_U> MichaelKohler: Odd. Does it boot successfully on another machine? (at this point it's probably going to take longer to figure out how to get SG2D working than it would to restore grub via an Ubuntu LiveUSB).
[01:02] <Four2zero> can anyone tell me the command to output a .log file from my home directory
[01:02] <rallias> when i execute "sudo apt-get update", what file does it store that information in?
[01:03] <bastidrazor> Four2zero: you could less /var/log/file.log
[01:03] <Dulak> rallias: it should all be stored under /var/cache/apt iirc
[01:03] <DasEi> cyphase: need another drive least that big, then do dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdb1/sdc.iso with sdc being the bad drive, sdb1 a partiton/drive with enough free space
[01:03] <MichaelKohler> Jordan_U: can't test that right now, just have my failing netbook and my working laptop here, and I'd rather not reboot my laptop right now. but thanks anyway, I'll try in a few hours
[01:04] <cyphase> DasEi, lol. like i said, it's not showing up in /dev
[01:05] <Four2zero> thanks it worked.
[01:06] <DasEi> cyphase: as we can't do any checks now, it's like talking a crystal bowl, there are few tools out
[01:09] <deepin> hi
[01:09] <DasEi> !hi
[01:11] <Jordan_U> MichaelKohler: If you can't get SG2D working you can always follow this guide to restore grub from any LiveCD/USB: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[01:12] <DasEi> Jordan_U: MichaelKohler, where are you stuck ? dd did just fine here, ready to re-try ?
[01:13] <augdawg> what is the ppa for unity?
[01:13] <andreyka> hey guys, how can I get ubuntu gnome theme on other distributives?
[01:14] <DasEi> andreyka: you mean themes on other distros ?
[01:14] <andreyka> yeap
[01:14] <DasEi> !themes
[01:15] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i add more task lists to google calendar tasks?
[01:15] <linux_is_my_hero> (in the list)
[01:15] <DasEi> andreyka: depends on the used window-manager
[01:15] <andreyka> I haven't found anything similar to default ubuntu theme on gnome-looks, art.gnome & artwork
[01:15] <andreyka> gnome
[01:15] <DasEi> andreyka: in the sequence gnome,kde,xubuntu  you'll find ready ones there
[01:16] <yxz97> Hello
[01:16] <yxz97> does anyone here is official support?
[01:16] <yxz97> well i have a simple request
[01:16] <Ycarene> Is there a reason that they took away the ability to change the gdm login theme?
[01:16] <DasEi> !ask | yxz97
[01:17] <andreyka> DasEi: I'm searching for default ubuntu theme, not other themes. And there is nothing similar on that sites.
[01:17] <yxz97> why the hell is not the torrent for version 10.10 here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#dvd
[01:17] <yxz97> DasEi, wasn¿t necesary
[01:18] <DasEi> yxz97: which torrent exactly 10.10 dvd 32 or 64 ?
[01:18] <angelnetbook_> hello
[01:18] <snow_ru> hmm I always has the problem of : missing something.sty and want to use ubuntu apt-get install to install the package. But Is there anyway to search for the dev package name given the sty file missing ?
[01:18] <yxz97> both
[01:18] <yxz97> DasEi, both
[01:18] <WALoeIII> can I get aptitude to download a .deb for a different architecture
[01:19] <snow_ru> both what ?
[01:19] <DasEi> yxz97: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/10.10/release/
[01:19] <Ycarene> I really want to change how my login screen looks, how do I do that?
[01:19] <rww> yxz97: Erm, it is. That page links to mirrors like (once you select version) http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/10.10/release/ , which have .torrent links
[01:19] <Jordan_U> yxz97: Please watch your language. There are torrent links on all of the mirrors linked to on that page.
[01:19] <angelnetbook_> 10.4 ubuntu remix  super
[01:19] <OerHeks> ubuntu-10.10-dvd-i386.iso and ubuntu-10.10-dvd-amd64.iso are available @ http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[01:20] <DasEi> yxz97: so welcome to ubu-sky
[01:20] <yxz97> where the ubuntu roadmap?
[01:20] <Vadtec> DasEi: power cycle didnt even help
[01:20] <yxz97> ubu-sky? DasEi what the hell is that ?
[01:21] <Vadtec> DasEi: i can see the bootp requests in tcpdump, but i do not see a response from the modem at all
[01:21] <DasEi> yxz97: was a reaction to hell; google milestone natty
[01:21] <Vadtec> DasEi: i see <IP_ADDRESS>.bootpc > <IP_ADDRESS>.bootps, but there is no return...
[01:21] <DasEi> (roadmap)
[01:22] <Vadtec> DasEi: yet I see proper dhcp flows on this windows laptop when i connect it up
[01:22] <enthdegree> Does anyone have experience with Xfbdev?
[01:22] <yxz97> My distro has no moe support hell
[01:22] <rww> yxz97: I don't know if there's a language barrier here, but adding "hell" to random sentences isn't necessary or nice.
[01:22] <yxz97> I hate this but I will have to update my OS again all..
[01:22] <mkanyicy> enthdegree, no
[01:22] <Ycarene> I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you can no longer change your gdm theme.
[01:22] <yxz97> rww, I don't know if there is a language missunderstaning with you, but I said hell just because...
[01:22] <DasEi> Vadtec: I wasn't fast enough, I wanted you to comment interfaces to then try sudo ifdown eth1 && sudo ifup eth1 inet dhcp
[01:23] <enthdegree> seriously. :P X stuff really badly documented
[01:23] <enthdegree> thanks anywhoo
[01:23] <enthdegree> *how
[01:23] <yxz97> rww, just because .....
[01:23]  * yxz97 hummm
[01:23] <yxz97> rww, without intention at alll...
[01:23] <yxz97> I mean,  is this kind of church?
[01:23] <rww> yxz97: Then don't. It's making your attitude seem problematic :(
[01:24] <yxz97> rww, why?
[01:24] <DancingAnna> Attempting to boot ubuntu into a single user mode... init 2 doesn't seem to do it.  Anyone know what I should use?
[01:24] <yxz97> I seem problematic? rww nahh
[01:24] <yxz97> you need chillout rww
[01:24] <yxz97> hahahaaha
[01:24] <DasEi> yxz97: just keep on a friendly, technically oriented level
[01:25] <Jordan_U> DancingAnna: Hold shift during boot and select "recovery mode" or run "init 1".
[01:25] <yxz97> rww, your semantic is not my aim ;-)
[01:25] <yxz97> DasEi, ok, just like here is very, very military.. seems to me
[01:25] <jmichaelx> is there a way to get vdpau working with apps that use gstreamer as their backend? for example, i would like to be able to play HD videos in Miro, but without vdpau, this doesn't go too well.
[01:26] <Dulak> There are rules, they are enforced.  If that's a problem, don't participate.
[01:26] <yxz97> Dulak, ok
[01:26] <mkanyicy> yxz97, how can we help you?
[01:26] <yxz97> Y go then
[01:26] <rww> yxz97: being polite isn't unreasonable.
[01:26] <yxz97> I go
[01:26] <yxz97> were there is free to speak!
[01:26] <DasEi> yxz97: not really, but as supporting can be nervy as having computer-issues, a more lighten up approach is nicer
[01:26] <rww> meh
[01:27] <yxz97> rww, L
[01:27] <Vadtec> DasEi: configuring eth1 for dhcp is pointless, its not hooked up to the modem, nor is it supposed to be
[01:27]  * yxz97 lol
[01:27] <Vadtec> DasEi: besides, ive tried using eth1 to connect to the modem, i get the same results as with eth0
[01:27] <n0a1ias> ?join #backtrack-linux
[01:28] <yxz97> DasEi, yeah, I know what a nerve rww right?
[01:28] <DasEi> Vadtec: eth0 is wan, you said so wan0
[01:28] <DasEi> yxz97: just keep on a friendly, technically oriented level
[01:28] <jmichaelx> n0a1ias: s/?/\//
[01:28] <yxz97> DasEi, ok
[01:28] <DancingAnna> Jordan_U Thanks...  most linux seems to use init 2 for single user... know why ubuntu does it differently?  Would it cause any problems if I altered the init scripts to make init 5 the normal runlevel?
[01:29] <Vadtec> DasEi: my setup is this, modem <-> eth0 <-> ubuntu <-> eth1 <-> lan (at least that is what i am aiming for)
[01:29] <yxz97> DasEi, no trolling?
[01:29]  * yxz97 hahaha
[01:29] <Dulak> DancingAnna: what distro uses runlevel 2 for single user?  Never, ever, ever seen that, in 15 years of using linux.
[01:30] <yxz97> my first question was a bit weird, but I found the page that look more official to me
[01:30] <yxz97> http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/
[01:30] <yxz97> at first
[01:30] <Jordan_U> DancingAnna: In traditional SYSV init, runlevel 2 is single user mode with networking (init 1 is single user mode without networking, and is what most people mean if they just say "single user mode).
[01:30] <yxz97> hehe
[01:30] <Dulak> DancingAnna: runlevel 1 is single-user, on every unix, ever.
[01:30] <yxz97> ok thanks anyway, your your time
[01:30] <Vadtec> DasEi: ill call my ISP in a bit, maybe this modem is being lame or they dont like the mac of my eth0 NIC
[01:30] <DasEi> Vadtec: ah, so what was that wan info about ? so that procedure (no mention in interfaces, manaually take eth0 up down n up) was the advice then
[01:30] <yxz97> what is the most valuable here is the time... remember
[01:31] <Vadtec> DasEi: thanks for the help though, if worse comes to worse, i have a crappy linksys i can hook up so i can get my linux back online
[01:31] <DasEi> Vadtec: if it works on other machines, you should be able to work it out
[01:31] <yxz97> why https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx is supported until 2013
[01:31] <yxz97> and 10.10 until 2012
[01:31] <firewaterburnz> I feel that I am very close to having my Tl-wn321g wirless usb connection functioning, I have done make install to create the rt73 driver, blacklisted conflicting drivers, when I (lsmod) the rt73 module is running, but when I (sudo ifconfig ralan0 up) I get ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device. Can anyone provide any guidance please
[01:31] <Vadtec> DasEi: yeah, this isnt my first go at dchp on linux, just my first go with ubuntu
[01:31] <rww> yxz97: because 10.04 is a Long Term Support release
[01:31] <rww> !lts
[01:31] <yxz97> if 10.10 is newest than the other?
[01:32] <Dulak> Vadtec: you can put openwrt on a linksys router, with QOS and everything. I have a pair I use and it's solid.
[01:32] <Jordan_U> DancingAnna: Ubuntu uses upstart which doesn't really have a concept of runlevels, so anything above 1 (except 6) boots the full system.
[01:32] <yxz97> what makes a version to be choose as LTS version?
[01:32] <yxz97> what makes a version to be choose as LTS version? rww
[01:32] <Vadtec> Dulak: sadly, not my linksys...its a rev 3, which cant be flashed
[01:32]  * Vadtec sighs
[01:32] <yxz97> a kernel stuff? rww
[01:32] <DasEi> Vadtec: maybe boot a  live cd and then check ifconfig, to see how it connects
[01:32] <yxz97> rww, are you engineer or just programmer?
[01:32] <firewaterburnz> lsusb does recongnize device    Bus 001 Device 002: ID 148f:2070 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2070 Wireless Adapter
[01:32] <rww> yxz97: 6.06, 8.04, and 10.04 are LTSes. They're generally spaced every two years.
[01:33] <Vadtec> DasEi: yeah, gotta find my live cd :P
[01:33] <Vadtec> afk peeps, supper time
[01:33] <Dulak> Vadtec: ??  v 3.1 is what I use and they are flashable,  it's v 5+ that is a problem and you can still run ddwrt-micro on those even still
[01:33] <Vadtec> thanks again for the help
[01:33] <DasEi> Dulak : nick-miss ?!
[01:33] <yxz97> ahah interesting how the tech go
[01:33] <yxz97> right
[01:34] <DasEi> Dulak: no, fine
[01:34] <yxz97> I remember when redhat was the leader
[01:34] <yxz97> and now is ubuntu
[01:34] <yxz97> hahahahahaha
[01:34] <DasEi> !ot
[01:34] <yxz97> DasEi, want me to go?
[01:34] <YiamiYo> hello again
[01:35] <DasEi> yxz97: just keep on a friendly, technically oriented level
[01:35] <YiamiYo> got anotehr problem
[01:35] <DasEi> YiamiYo: so ?
[01:35] <yxz97> DasEi, thanks for the help, I won't be a disturb more
[01:35] <yxz97> DasEi, honestly thanks
[01:35] <yxz97> bye
[01:35] <YiamiYo> this time different
[01:35] <Chr|s> anyone here run TeamSpeak 3 on amd64 and able to get a headset working properly?
[01:36] <YiamiYo> i have 3 hds...2 in raid0 and 1 alone
[01:36] <YiamiYo> i have ubuntu 10.10 installed in both setups
[01:36] <firewaterburnz> ralan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[01:36] <YiamiYo> and i just installed windows 7 in raid0 with the other ubuntu 10.10
[01:36] <firewaterburnz> anyone got any ideas?
[01:37] <YiamiYo> grub.cfg now is: http://pastebin.com/7iKUs996
[01:37] <YiamiYo> it loads both ubuntu installations fine...but it cannot load windows 7
[01:38] <DasEi> YiamiYo: so you first installed win7, then ubuntu
[01:38] <yxz97> sorry again here
[01:38] <yxz97> hummm
[01:38] <yxz97> can I applied a upgrade kind of, to my current distro
[01:38] <yxz97> guys
[01:38] <yxz97> DasEi,
[01:39] <DasEi> YiamiYo: so you first installed win7, then ubuntu ?
[01:39] <YiamiYo> no...i first installed both ubuntu and then windows 7...but my grub is at raid0 mbr and windows loader is in the other hdd...and i have my bios start from raid0 mbr
[01:39] <mkanyicy> yxz97, yes you can
[01:39] <yxz97> or I need format my hard drive?
[01:39] <yxz97> hello?
[01:39] <mkanyicy> yxz97, but version to version or LTS to LTS
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[01:39] <Pici> con-man: stop
[01:39] <FloodBot2> con-man: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:39] <Flannel> con-man: Please stop that
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[01:39] <FloodBot2> cedric_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:40] <yxz97> con-man, is a troll!
[01:40] <maco> oh dang...
[01:40] <DasEi> YiamiYo: ah, so no win7 on the raid ones
[01:40] <jmichaelx> we are in need of some serious troll filtering atm
[01:40] <yxz97> con-man, is a troll!
[01:40] <YiamiYo> win7 is on the raid0...it's loader isn't
[01:40] <con-man> actually I'm a long time linux user who frequents this channel and both gives and receives support
[01:40] <Pici> jmichaelx: Its already been taken care of.
[01:40] <maco> jmichaelx: the spammy flooder was removed from the server
[01:40] <Flannel> yxz97: Stop that.
[01:40] <Chr|s> ehh gets everyones attention
[01:40] <maco> con-man: then you should know better than to flood the channel with one letter per line
[01:41] <yxz97> mkanyicy, how does that work internally
[01:41] <con-man> maco, no ones perfect :(
[01:41] <histo> What's with all the trolls tonight?
[01:41] <Chr|s> I guess its going to be a long night trying to figure this out... anyone here run TeamSpeak 3 on amd64 computer?
[01:41] <yxz97> tell me the story :-)
[01:41] <mkanyicy> yxz97, what?
[01:41] <jmichaelx> histo: exactly what i was wondering.
[01:41] <cheby> histo: someone blew up their bridge
[01:41] <rooks> !dualboot
[01:41] <histo> !botabuse > rooks
[01:41] <histo> Chr|s: I do
[01:41] <yxz97> mkanyicy, yeah, I mean is better do a format of my hard drive because old files can be remove saving hard drive space maybe?? is that a possibility?
[01:42] <DasEi> YiamiYo: win7 is on the raid, you boot from the single drive ? how is the raid set up, fake(hard) raid or software raid ?
[01:42] <histo> Chr|s: what sort of problems are you having with teamviewer?
[01:42] <DancingAnna> Jordan_U Thanks again :)  I'm still just learning stuff here.  My class notes said that 2 was supposed to be commandline without starting the full system, and I was wondering why ubuntu didn't do that.
[01:42] <aarcane> what is the point of that kind of spam?  they're not even advertising a product..
[01:42] <yxz97> mkanyicy, or an upgrade does this?
[01:42] <rww> aarcane: They enjoy being disruptive. Comment about it furthers that goal :(
[01:43] <cheby> aarcane: to make you ask questions
[01:43] <yxz97> mkanyicy, the upgrade also upgrades my kernel and drivers?
[01:43] <Chr|s> histo:  everything works fine except the mic, I talk into it, it goes through, but its not understandable. Very laggy choppy sounding
[01:43] <YiamiYo> my raid is fake (i think) and i have installed ubuntu + win7 on it...the other hdd has ubuntu + windows loader...my pc starts from the raid0 mbr where is grub2
[01:43] <mkanyicy> yxz97, yes it does
[01:43] <yxz97> mkanyicy, and my question about saving hard drive space?
[01:43] <Chr|s> histo: oh wait, its TeamSpeak not Team Veiwer :)
[01:43] <Jordan_U> DancingAnna: You're welcome.
[01:43] <yxz97> my HDD is small in capacity
[01:43] <yxz97> :(
[01:43] <histo> Chr|s: I use teamspeak as well
[01:44] <mkanyicy> yxz97, then do a clean install then
[01:44] <yxz97> mkanyicy, how?
[01:44] <aarcane> yxz97, I had that problem before too, but then I got a magic e-mail that changed my life.
[01:44] <mkanyicy> yxz97, insert a live cd and install from it
[01:44] <yxz97> aarcane, is a troll!
[01:44] <Chr|s> histo:  alright, are you using TeamSpeak 3 on amd64 computer?
[01:44] <yxz97> aarcane, email? wtf, Jesus
[01:44] <histo> Chr|s: yes
[01:44] <yxz97> !!trol
[01:44] <Pici> yxz97: I believe  you were asked to stop doing that.
[01:44] <jmichaelx> aarcane: that was classic
[01:45] <aarcane> thank you, jmichaelx.
[01:45] <jmichaelx> yw
[01:45] <Dulak> if you want a really small version of ubuntu in terms of hdd space, have a look at lubuntu
[01:45] <DasEi> YiamiYo: so you created a softraid at setup in both, win7 and ubuntu at install ? or did you use the mobo's tool to set up raid before so the installers would just find md0 ?
[01:45] <Chr|s> histo:  how did you you get your headset to work with it? my mic doesn't work clearly
[01:45] <yxz97> Pici, don't believe its a fact!
[01:45] <DasEi> !minimal > Dulak
[01:45] <yxz97> !trolling
[01:45] <histo> Chr|s: configure it in sound preferences first. Left click on volume control then click sound preferences. Make sure it works in there first
[01:46] <yxz97> !trolling | aarcane
[01:46] <Flannel> yxz97: I will remove you if you continue to claim people are trolls.  The operators in this channel are fully capable of making that determination and solving the issues themselves. Thank you.
[01:46] <DasEi> .
[01:46] <YiamiYo> DasEi, i used mobo's tool...but my grub still sees it as 2 drives with no partitions...it only looked ok at ubuntu installation
[01:46] <Chr|s> histo:  I tried every option in the sound preferences
[01:46] <yxz97> Flannel, ok sorry
[01:46] <mkanyicy> yxz97, lol
[01:46] <histo> Chr|s: I noticed on my pc I had to mics listed for input and had to select the seconnd one. You should see the little leds light up as you talk.  Also check alsamixer and make sure nothing is muted.
[01:47] <DasEi> YiamiYo: so, and now you want to have the single drive as option in grub, too ?
[01:47] <n0a1ias> jmichaelx, what? i meant a / but i hit shift by mistake
[01:47] <yxz97> mkanyicy, hey you
[01:47] <yxz97> mkanyicy, did answer my question
[01:47] <Dulak> DasEi: umm not sure what that has to do with my point, but thanks for making the bot private message me, yer a real pal.
[01:47] <YiamiYo> i can boot from the singles drive ubuntu...but it does not boot windows 7
[01:47] <Chr|s> histo:  ok, I checked alsamixer, nothing was muted earlier
[01:47] <jmichaelx> n0a1ias: yes, that is all i was trying to tell you
[01:47] <yxz97> aarcane, wtf, magic email?
[01:47] <YiamiYo> you can check my grub.cfg and see if everything is how it should be: http://pastebin.com/7iKUs996
[01:47] <DasEi> Dulak: in terms of small hd-space
[01:47] <yxz97> aarcane, speak quick or dieee!
[01:47] <n0a1ias> ok, sorry jmichaelx
[01:48] <Pici> yxz97: He was making a joke, just ignore it.
[01:48] <Chr|s> histo:  when I talk, the input lvl moves like it is suppose too
[01:48] <aarcane> yxz97, it was a joke, but I really do get e-mails from newegg with cheap prices on large hard-drives.  try one of those.
[01:48] <mkanyicy> yxz97, keep your language clean please, this is a family-friendly channel
[01:48] <Dulak> DasEi: the minimal iso still installs like 2g of stuff though, it's only small to download the iso, not what actually gets installed
[01:48] <aarcane> ubuntu server is only a few hundred mb by default.
[01:49] <maco> yxz97: microcenter sends out those emails too.  $60 for a 1TB drive lately
[01:49] <Pici> Dulak: No it doesn't, it installs only a base system. cli only.
[01:49] <Jordan_U> Dulak: You can choose to install only a base system.
[01:49] <Dulak> Ahhh ok I get it now.
[01:49] <DasEi> Dulak: nah, expert install really drags it down
[01:49] <yxz97> aarcane, I just bough a computer, and ihave no more oney
[01:49] <yxz97> money to buy, but is a possibility I first need make sure if I can get one for this computer.....
[01:49] <yxz97> the model...
[01:49] <Flannel> Dulak, DasEi: the minimal (and Alternate CD) install a standard install by default, but you can install a GUI-less system as well, from either of them (they're the same installer, one just includes packags on the CD, the other requires their download during install)
[01:49] <aarcane> yxz97, if that's true than you have more drive space than you're admitting.  I haven't seen anything for sale with less than 250GB.
[01:50] <DasEi> YiamiYo: teamview again ?
[01:50] <yxz97> I have 120G aarcane
[01:50] <yxz97> :P aarcane
[01:50] <maco> aarcane: not necessarily. my 5 months old laptop has only 16GB, but it's an SSD
[01:50] <Pici> Flannel: I didn't think that the alternate CD gave you any package selection options..
[01:50] <aarcane> yxz97, then you've got enough for ubuntu.  quit wining and go install.
[01:50] <maco> Pici: there's an option to use aptitude's gui
[01:50] <maco> Pici: i think
[01:50] <maco> er...tui
[01:50] <Pici> maco: yeah, maybe
[01:50] <Flannel> Pici: If you go into expert mode it does, yeah.  But even without that, you can do the gui-less install ("install a command line system"
[01:51] <yxz97> may I make an observation?
[01:51] <Flannel> yxz97: If it's offtopic, please make it in #ubuntu-offtopic.  This is a support channel.
[01:51] <jmichaelx> is there a way to get vdpau working with apps that use gstreamer as their backend? for example, i would like to be able to play HD videos in Miro, but without vdpau, this doesn't go too well.
[01:51] <yxz97> Flannel, yes sorry again
[01:51] <Dulak> I have a 120g machine running lucid and windows xp, not sure what your issue is my ubuntu takes like 3g with a ton of packages installed, and windows runs fine in 30g of space with several big games installed.
[01:51] <yxz97> how make I clean install
[01:52] <yxz97> formatting my hard drive?
[01:52] <aarcane> I have a ubuntu on an 8 gig ssd, it works fine.
[01:52] <jmichaelx> aarcane: dell mini-9?
[01:52] <Pici> yxz97: Yes, but its really not necessary for upgrading Ubuntu.
[01:53] <Chr|s> grr
[01:53] <aarcane> jmichaelx, asus T91-SA
[01:54] <histo> !who | Dulak
[01:54] <jmichaelx> aarcane: i also have ubuntu on an 8GB ssd, but on a mini 9... i do always wish however, that I had ordered the 16GB drive
[01:55] <histo> jmichaelx: I believe you have to use the nvidia drivers from their site or the current ones for vdpau
[01:55] <histo> jmichaelx: I used to use it for folding but haven't played with it for a while
[01:55] <aarcane> jmichaelx, you can buy an upgraded one from runcore, I believe.
[01:56] <histo> aarcane: why would you uby a driver?
[01:56] <jmichaelx> histo: i do have nvidia-current installed from the maverick repos. do you really think vdpau would work better with gstreamer apps if i installed the most recent drivers from the nvidia site?
[01:56] <Dulak> histo: if I mean something to be addressed to someone in particular, I use their name
[01:56] <dstar> I'm trying to install linux-backport-modules-wireless-maverick-generic, but I can't -- it depends on linux-backports-modules-wireless-2.6.35-23-generic which doesn't seem to exist!
[01:56] <dstar> Anyone seen this before?
[01:56] <hceasy> uhhh
[01:56] <histo> jmichaelx: if it's not working with current. I would try the ones from nvidia.com. I'm sure there is information on the forums about vdpau
[01:57] <litropy> Hi, peeps. How do I check what user group my usb device is?
[01:57] <jmichaelx> aarcane: i have thought about upgrading it... but right now i'm thinking i'd rather save up for a newer dual-core atom netbook, possibly with an ION gpu
[01:57] <histo> !info linux-backports-modules-wireless-2.6.35-23-generic
[01:57] <Chr|s> histo:  im not sure whats going on, hear everyone fine, but they say im cutting o ut, I went through sound preferences and checked everything out
[01:57] <jmichaelx> histo: i have consulted the forums for info on this, and have not yet come up with anything.
[01:57] <zulgaban> hi
[01:58] <histo> Chr|s: they can hear you but your cut out?  Then I would adjust your levels
[01:58] <histo> jmichaelx: google maybe?
[01:58] <aarcane> jmichaelx, my friend shirin just got an awsome asus system with nvidia ion.  I nearly creamed my pants when I saw it.  the beast is awsome.
[01:58] <Chr|s> histo:  they can hear me cut out, its not understandable its choppy. I ajusted the lvls
[01:59] <jmichaelx> histo: <sigh> yes, i have googled. may i ask where you got yor info on installing the driver from the nvidia site? or did you just pull that out of nowhere?
[01:59] <histo> Chr|s: I don't know I have no issues like that. Running 10.10 amd64 and teamspeak 3. I would test the mic in a different app and see if there is an issue.
[01:59] <dstar> histo: Exactly. The package doesn't exist, but the maverick-generic package depends on it. I guess I could let aptitude install the 2.6.35-22 version instead....
[01:59] <Chr|s> I tested in mumble, worked fine
[01:59] <histo> jmichaelx: You just download it and use the installer that they provide. Let me see if I can find you the info on vdpau and folding
[01:59] <jmichaelx> aarcane: those new asus netbooks rock.... sorry for the OT here
[02:00] <jmichaelx> histo: i know how to install it, i was just wondering what makes you think this would fix the vdpau+gstreamer problem? if you have a link or reference on that, it would be MUCH appreciated
[02:01] <banker247_> i'm sure some people actually get the woodchuck question wrong..
[02:01] <histo> jmichaelx: you also need gstreamer that is compiled for vdpau
[02:01] <jmichaelx> histo: that may well be
[02:01] <jmichaelx> histo: i take it that is not the case with the gstreamer in the maveric repos?
[02:02] <jmichaelx> maverick*
[02:02] <aarcane> ubuntu + xbmc-live + vdpau works perfectly ootb on 10.04.  gstreamer is the weak link.
[02:02] <histo> jmichaelx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1037625 here is vdpau mplayer and smplayer
[02:02] <histo> jmichaelx: may provide some insite
[02:02] <jmichaelx> aarcane: yes... i have XBMC working great, as well as SMplayer.... and to a degree with VLC
[02:02] <aarcane> jmichaelx, gstreamer is a beast and an epic failure.  you should avoid it at all costs.
[02:03] <histo> jmichaelx: on the forums I see people having problems with gstreamer-bad and vdpau
[02:03] <jmichaelx> histo: mplayer and smplayer are working fine... plus most anything relying on xine.... it is gstreamer that i am having issues with
[02:03] <histo> jmichaelx: correct.
[02:03] <aarcane> jmichaelx, gstreamer == bad.  avoid gstreamer.
[02:04] <aarcane> gstreamer is someone's attempt to poorly reinvent a perfectly working wheel.
[02:04] <KimLaRoux> what's better than gstreamer?
[02:04] <greezmunkey> aarcane: what? They give that wheel corners??
[02:05] <jmichaelx> aarcane: bad thing is that i think some kde apps (amarok, for one?) are considering switching away from xine, and toward gstreamer.... at least i read something to that effect not too long back
[02:05] <aarcane> KimLaRoux, mplayer, xine, vlc, xbmc, mythtv, etc..  pretty much anything.
[02:05] <Chr|s> histo:  im going to try to plug in my headset in the back to see if it works that way
[02:05] <jmichaelx> KimLaRoux: xine seems to be a much better backend to me
[02:05] <etherealite> Anyone know how to get phpmyadmin to stop logging me out after 1400 seconds? I don't understand how ubuntu has packaged the configs.
[02:05] <Chr|s> right now im at a loss, this should be working fine
[02:06] <tiox> Far as small Linux goes, Damn Small Linux would fit the bill: 50MB in size! But then that means for support you'd have to go through their channels.
[02:06] <tiox> But it's still Debian, and they still use the .deb format, I think.
[02:06] <histo> Chr|s: like I said check mic with another app. Confirm that teamspeak is the problem.
[02:06] <KimLaRoux> I think both xine and gstreamer are piece of trash
[02:06] <greezmunkey> Is there an "Asterisk" channel here?
[02:06]  * tiox never had a problem with neither
[02:06] <tiox> What's going on?
[02:06] <syn-ack> Asterisk? Sure.
[02:07] <histo> greezmunkey: /msg alis list asterisk
[02:07] <aarcane> KimLaRoux, xine is pretty crappy, held together liek bubblegum and duck tape..  but it's still better than gstreamer.
[02:07] <Chr|s> histo:  yeah, I have, I installed and set up mumble fine
[02:07] <jmichaelx> tiox: one caution, though.... DSL appears to have been abandonned, with no updates to it for a few years now
[02:07] <tiox> Sounds sad.
[02:07] <tiox> I thought DSL was still active.
[02:07] <KimLaRoux> so far the only music player I found that was worth the mention is Aqualung
[02:07] <jmichaelx> tiox: ever messed around with tiny core?
[02:07] <histo> Chr|s: Dunno then perhaps the teamspeak forums?  Not really a ubuntu problem. Unless you've messed with pulse settings etc...
[02:08] <histo> KimLaRoux: moc  (music on console)
[02:08] <KimLaRoux> sadly I cant use it as a back-end for kde apps
[02:08] <jmichaelx> histo: moc FTW
[02:08] <nubuntu> anyone know where I can find a fix to get the clock applet for gnome panel to re-attach to the panel: mine's floating 1/2 way up my screen, and when I add 3 different location timezones, I can't see the top 1/2 of the global map
[02:08]  * jmichaelx loves his moc
[02:08] <Chr|s> well actually it is, I am using ubuntu, packages were made for ubuntu. Thanks for trying to help none the less
[02:08] <aarcane> KimLaRoux, try mpd.
[02:08] <histo> !resetpanels | nubuntu
[02:08] <nubuntu> it floats higher for each tz added
[02:09] <nubuntu> I'll try that, cheers
[02:09] <tiox> Ah yes, dormant is the status on distrowatch
[02:09] <KimLaRoux> can mpd be setup as a phonon backend?
[02:09] <greezmunkey> histo: no such channel :/
[02:09] <nubuntu> will that mean I have to add them all back to the panel?
[02:09] <greezmunkey> histo: I tried # and ## as well...
[02:09] <histo> greezmunkey: right, you can msg alis to search for channels
[02:09] <toonacid> Someone who has Apache2 installed, can they do me a favor? I need a ls -l list of /var/log/apache2 and /var/log (to see what permissions the apache2 folder has also)
[02:09] <aarcane> KimLaRoux, mpd is a different kind of music player.  try to think differently :)
[02:09] <greezmunkey> histo: thanks, I'll try googling it.
[02:09] <nubuntu> hmm
[02:09] <jmichaelx> tiox: you should give tiny core a shot... it's main dev was also in reality the main dev for DSL
[02:10] <nubuntu> I think I'm going to have to reboot
[02:10] <histo> toonacid: I believe they should be owned by root:root
[02:10] <NilBud> Someone looking for a small distro?
[02:10] <nubuntu> ok, I now have no panels: to I restart gconf?
[02:10] <histo> toonacid: but no longer have apache2 installed to check
[02:11] <toonacid> histo: Thanks. I also need a quick list of the /var/log/apache2 folder however..
[02:11] <histo> toonacid: let me check my webserver remotely
[02:11] <Wolfhm> ?
[02:11] <tiox> THanks for the info jmichaelx.
[02:12] <tiox> I ought to challenge myself and see how useful a small OS is on a 512MB USB drive.
[02:12] <KimLaRoux> aarcane, Aqualung is easy enough and has a perfect playback, I don't feel like messing with the server/client setup of MPD
[02:12] <histo> toonacid: okay everything is root:adm except for other_vhosts_access_log which is root:root
[02:12] <toonacid> histo: Thanks!
[02:12] <histo> toonacid: apache2 is root:adm
[02:12] <aarcane> KimLaRoux, I use the terminal alot, so the switch to mpd made absolute sense for me.
[02:13] <tiox> I mean shit, they're a drop in the bucket compared to a sizeable USB drive or SD card.
[02:13] <toonacid> histo: What are the log file names inside the folder? Last thing I need. Thanks for your help.
[02:13] <Skapare> something changed the background image while I was installing a batch of packages ... I changed it back OK for my userid ... but it also changed it for the login screen ... How can I configure it back for the login screen?
[02:14] <KimLaRoux> aarcane, that's understandable... but I like simple things that just works =P
[02:14] <magicjoe> hi. i need a little help. my ubuntu starts to boot and then says, cannot display this video mode. i screwed up and turned it up too high and rebooted. problem is if i cant get back in, how do change it back?
[02:14] <aarcane> KimLaRoux, that's why I switched to MPD :)
[02:15] <histo> toonacid: there are access.log error.log the one I mentioned and then backups of old logs ex: access.log.1.gz etc...
[02:15] <Skapare> magicjoe: is there a recovery mode option in boot menu?
[02:15] <magicjoe> i booted into recovery mode, and have a root shell prompt
[02:15] <toonacid> histo: Alright, thank you.
[02:16] <etherealite> Anyone know how to get phpmyadmin to stop logging me out after 1400 seconds? I don't understand how ubuntu has packaged the configs.
[02:16] <histo> magicjoe: you set it higher in gnome or in grub?
[02:16] <magicjoe> in gnome
[02:16] <aarcane> magicjoe, try mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak and shutdown -r now
[02:16] <histo> etherealite: configs are in /etc/
[02:16] <Skapare> aarcane: shouldn't that be the other way around?
[02:16] <magicjoe> ok lemme give that a go
[02:16] <toenail> is there a virtual memory setting in ubuntu cause i dont have enough ram and the systems is lagging like hell
[02:16] <histo> magicjoe: if there are no settings in xorg.conf you can delete or move your .gconf folder.
[02:17] <Donkeyy> Hi
[02:17] <histo> toenail: how much ram do you have?  Also do you have swap?
[02:17] <Donkeyy> How do I create a ntfs partition in ubuntu??
[02:17] <Donkeyy> if I use the program GPARTED
[02:17] <toenail> 512 ram and the swap is 2 gigs
[02:17] <aarcane> Skapare, maybe.  but if it's missing, it should be autodetected or recreated :)
[02:17] <Donkeyy> it says create a msdos file system
[02:17] <Donkeyy> will that work on ntfs?
[02:17] <histo> Donkeyy: You can use system admin disk utility
[02:18] <Donkeyy> In ubuntu?
[02:18] <Skapare> aarcane: but it would be faster to move his .bak into place?
[02:18] <histo> Donkeyy: msdos could be fat or something else. You can also use mkfs from the command prompt
[02:18] <entropy4> hi
[02:18] <entropy4> hi
[02:18] <magicjoe> no such file or directory
[02:18] <Donkeyy> histo: Are you saying in ubuntu?
[02:18] <histo> toenail: you shouldn't be having issues with memory management
[02:18] <histo> Donkeyy: yes
[02:18] <toenail> its runs fines until i get wine running or firefox
[02:18] <aarcane> Skapare, if he set it using the GUI, it wouldn't have let him set it too high, so that probably won't help.
[02:18] <Skapare> magicjoe: try the other way around ... mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:19] <Donkeyy> histo: where is mkfs?
[02:19] <Skapare> aarcane: oh, I have set it bad myself before ... doesn't always catch it for some cards
[02:19] <toenail> wel its not a memory problem it just it runs like crap when i get those going
[02:19] <Skapare> aarcane: err, for  some monitors
[02:19] <histo> Donkeyy: in terminal you can use it.
[02:19] <aarcane> well, either way he should be better off :)
[02:20] <histo> Donkeyy: sudo mkfs.ntfs (options) (device)
[02:20] <magicjoe> no such file or directory
[02:20] <Skapare> aarcane: if the mv doesn't work, then yeah, rm ot mv to a crazy name would be next step
[02:20] <toenail> its using up alot of resorces and from what i remeber in windows you can use virtual memory and the system runs alot smoother
[02:20] <Donkeyy> histo: there is no desktop program?
[02:20] <Skapare> ot=or
[02:20] <histo> toenail: that's why we have swap
[02:20] <Donkeyy> histo: I have to be very careful because I have one HD with important data
[02:20] <histo> Donkeyy: Click On System > Administration > Disk Utility
[02:21] <Donkeyy> histo: a desktop version would be safer
[02:21] <Skapare> aarcane: you know how to change the background image at login time (gdm)?
[02:21] <etherealite> histo I know, but the phpmysql configs have no effect on my logout duration checkout line 37 and 36 in the config: http://pastie.org/1312224
[02:21] <Donkeyy> histo: ok
[02:21] <etherealite> histo no effect
[02:21] <Donkeyy> histo: I am there
[02:21] <histo> etherealite: you may have to restart the service after editing the config
[02:21] <etherealite> histo how?
[02:21] <magicjoe> wait a minute....
[02:21] <KERO_netbook> droppin sum deuce
[02:21] <magicjoe> i think i must have changed the settings for grub not gnome
[02:21] <toenail> ok well how come i run a simple audio program through wine and it sucks all the resorces
[02:21] <histo> etherealite: see if sudo /etc/init.d/phpmyadmin restart or something similiar
[02:21] <sexy> What can I use to stream music?
[02:22] <magicjoe> because i was changing the screen where you login
[02:22] <magicjoe> thats grub splash screen yeah?
[02:22] <magicjoe> and thats where it is crashing
[02:22] <histo> magicjoe: no your probably chaned your settings in gnome.  Like ssytem > Preferences > resolution or something
[02:22] <Skapare> magicjoe: login is gdm unless you replace it with something else
[02:22] <fiber> Hello, I'm having a strange problem that results in 100% cpu usage.  Basically, every once in a while my system cpu usage jumps to 100% although no user programs are straining the cpu at all.  I have an i7 920 and plenty of free ram.  This normally lasts a few minutes and the computer is completely unusable during this time.  Also, it seems that there is increased network usage during this period.  Anyone have an idea?
[02:23] <histo> magicjoe: that is X's resolution. changing the grub resolution settings would just change the framebuffer resolution
[02:23] <aarcane> Skapare, I used to, before they took all the configuration items out of gdm-config.  try finding gdm.conf and poking at it.
[02:23] <magicjoe> yeah i was trying to get some cool splash screen for that screen though, and now its not booting
[02:23] <bazhang> fiber, try top in the terminal to see what its doing
[02:23] <sexy> fiber, does that only happen on Ubuntu?
[02:23] <Donkeyy> histo: what do I so in disk utility
[02:23] <Skapare> fiber: can you get a console shell open and run the "top" command with nice ... like "nice --19 top" ?
[02:23] <arthuza> fiber: have you run "top" to see what's using it?
[02:23] <fiber> bazhang: it's a system process... it doesn't show up as a user program in top
[02:23] <histo> Donkeyy: right lcikc on the partiion you want to format it to ntfs
[02:23] <histo> Donkeyy: if there isn't a partitoin you need to create one on the disk.
[02:24] <fiber> sexy: Yes... infact only in 10.10... i had 9.04 on before and it worked like a charm
[02:24] <histo> magicjoe: what exactly were you editing or changing?
[02:24] <Four2zero> damn in-game irc doesnt work
[02:24] <Skapare> aarcane: well I might try that ... or just look for a file being changed ... I have drive snapshots from before so I can see what changed
[02:24] <Donkeyy> histo: it does not appear to be there
[02:24] <Donkeyy> how do I create one histo
[02:24] <histo> Four2zero: what ingame irc?
[02:24] <magicjoe> it wasnt in synaptic
[02:24] <Donkeyy> histo: right clicking does nothing
[02:24] <fiber> But yea, no programs actually show up as using a lot of resources... however at the top I can see that "Sys" is using 100%
[02:24] <histo> Donkeyy: right click ont ehd isk and create a parition
[02:24] <Skapare> aarcane: was hoping they would try to make it GUI user friendly
[02:24] <Four2zero> oops wrong channel
[02:24] <histo> !partition | Donkeyy
[02:24] <magicjoe> it was a cool screen from ubuntusatanicedition
[02:25] <magicjoe> no im not satanic, it just looked cool
[02:25] <sexy> Can anyone help me with setting up SlimServer? or any other program I can use to stream my music?
[02:25] <histo> Donkeyy: you need to do some reading this is way beyond the scope of this channel
[02:25] <histo> Donkeyy: you have to havec a parition on a disk to format it.
[02:25] <histo> sexy: mpd or vlc can stream music
[02:25] <Skapare> magicjoe: yeah, I understand ... the images help scare little nieces away from the computer :)
[02:26] <sexy> histo: thanks, looking into it
[02:26] <magicjoe> lol
[02:26] <histo> sexy: np. I prefer moc but I don't think it will do streaming
[02:26] <magicjoe> pretty much
[02:26] <histo> sexy: atleast to other clients
[02:27] <Donkeyy> histo: it keeps saying failed to delete partiion or create one
[02:27] <YiamiYo> can grub chainload to windows 7 loader which is in different drive??
[02:27] <magicjoe> but yeah, i was trying to take tarballs and run dpkg on them myself, and probably got one that wasnt for my architecture and now i cant get it
[02:27] <histo> Donkeyy: what exactly are you trying to do? Is this a new disk? Is there free space etc...
[02:27] <Skapare> magicjoe: 2 rows of 72 log sharp teeth dripping of a mix of acidic saliva and victim blood
[02:27] <magicjoe> get in*
[02:27] <greezmunkey> histo: wierd, that search yielded nothing yet #asterisk exists - got my question answered too!
[02:27] <Donkeyy> histo: I am trying to backup important data on a second hd
[02:28] <Donkeyy> and then format the primary
[02:28] <Firefishe> I'm using ubuntu 10.04 LTS.  I use kde, gnome, and xfce, but mostly kde 4.5.1.  I am experiencing the issue of the balance of my sound system always being started with a bias toward the left speaker.  I can correct this manually through gnome-volume-control-applet, but it never stays put between boots.
[02:28] <histo> greezmunkey: huh that's odd
[02:28] <histo> Donkeyy: is the second hd already formated?
[02:28] <Skapare> magicjoe: did the mv of the files work?
[02:28] <Donkeyy> yes it had ntfs on it like it should
[02:28] <magicjoe> oh hey i know the program to back stuff up donkey.....remastersys
[02:28] <Donkeyy> thats what ubuntu is saying
[02:29] <histo> Donkeyy: okay then mount the second drive and copy the files. Why are you trying to format it?
[02:29] <magicjoe> its perfect, look it up, its easy and even i have backed up an ubuntu onto a bootable live cd/installation cd
[02:29] <fiber> Skapare: arthuza: bazhang: sexy: any ideas? It gets so bad that even vim takes ages to respond to any sort of input... and it happens quite frequently!  The main problem is I have no clue how to even get information regarding what is happening... how can I check what in the system is hogging the CPU?
[02:29] <Donkeyy> histo its not letting me mount it
[02:29] <magicjoe> sorry skapare. no that mv command didnt work
[02:29] <histo> sexy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPD
[02:29] <magicjoe> they werent there
[02:29] <gluxon> Does anyone have Ubuntu RGBA enabled?
[02:29] <Donkeyy> its saying "Unable to mount 40gb file system"
[02:29] <magicjoe> the files
[02:29] <histo> Donkeyy: what does it say when you try to mount it?
[02:29] <Donkeyy> histo: its saying "Unable to mount 40gb file system
[02:30] <sexy> histo: got it, thanks
[02:30] <Guest69375> Hello?
[02:30] <john38> Can somebody help me with network problem
[02:30] <histo>  Donkeyy go to a terminal and sudo fdisk -l  then pastebin the output
[02:30] <histo> !paste | Donkeyy
[02:31] <Donkeyy> ok histo, im goin to come back here on ubuntu
[02:31] <barbatruc> hi all. the lucid installer did a gpt partition table on my dedicated hard drive, but no bios_grub partition. It was not able to boot my other Ubuntu on another drive too.
[02:31] <Donkeyy> im signing off here
[02:31] <Donkeyy> brb ok histo
[02:31] <Guest69375> Could somebody with RGBA Transparency installed run a quick command?
[02:31] <john38> the wirelesss adapter on other computer wont pick up my wireless internet signal???
[02:32] <Guest69375> john38: Does your computer have a network adapter?
[02:32] <barbatruc> fiber: top or iotop may give you an hint
[02:32] <john38> Guest69375, im using wireless router on this computer
[02:32] <YiamiYo> can grub chainload to windows 7 loader which is in different drive??anyone??
[02:32] <histo>  Donkeyy k
[02:32] <histo> YiamiYo: I believe so
[02:33] <magicjoe> so how do i change the gdm resolution settings from the command line?
[02:33] <YiamiYo> histo, this is my grub.cfg : http://pastebin.com/7iKUs996
[02:33] <fiber> barbatruc: thanks, I'll try iotop... top doesn't give any information regarding this problem since the offending process isn't within userland.
[02:33] <cappicard> hey folks. anyone using msn via pidgin? I'm getting alot of inability to verify certificate chains from oscar.msn.com or something like that
[02:33] <YiamiYo> but when i choose windows 7 from grub i only see black screen with a blinking pointer
[02:33] <barbatruc> fiber: iotop will show you the processes using the hard drive
[02:34] <histo> YiamiYo: well you have it pointing at hd0 but you said it's on a different drive?
[02:34] <Donkeyy> histo: when I try to access the other HD the basic desktop way, I get this message    http://pastebin.com/Zq4KpUcB
[02:35] <histo> Donkeyy: can you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[02:35] <Donkeyy> histo: ok but this wont delete anything right?
[02:35] <magicjoe> HEY!!! I got in! I su to my username, and then did startx. that got me past the login screen. PLEASE tell me how to fix those settings!
[02:36] <mrproper> I am in 10.10 and gnome-shell doesn't alt-tab.  Can someone help me debug?
[02:36] <histo> Donkeyy: right it will just list parittions
[02:36] <Donkeyy> ok histo
[02:36] <Donkeyy> one sec
[02:36] <magicjoe> my login screen settings errors and says cannot use this display
[02:36] <YiamiYo> histo, i have a single drive (hd0) and 2 more in raid0...i'm trying to load the windows loader from grub which is in raid0 mbr
[02:36] <histo> YiamiYo: yeah grub config is messed up then it's pointing at hd0 not hte raid.
[02:36] <francela> como configuro los usuarios en samba
[02:36] <sexy> histo: I installed it, but how do I use it now?
[02:36] <francela> ??
[02:37] <YiamiYo> histo, so...what i have to do?
[02:37] <histo> sexy: I would take a look at the wiki. YOu need an app to attach to the server and play whatever it is streaming.
[02:37] <Donkeyy> histo: http://pastebin.com/ws4WWeP0
[02:37] <greezmunkey> Stupid question of the hour: What do you do to verify which version (32 or 64 bit) is installed?
[02:37] <evilgeenius> My ubuntu can never recover from going into hibernate/sleep mode.  Does anyone know why?  I have the latest version of ubuntu and it has never worked. Is there a solution?  I can make it happen by closing my laptop lid for a couple of seconds.
[02:37] <histo> greezmunkey: uname -a
[02:38] <sexy> histo: But I haven't even specified my music directory. How can it be streaming anything? I feel like I haven't fully configured it
[02:38] <histo> Donkeyy: is there data on sdb1 ?
[02:38] <greezmunkey> histo: I did that, I get: Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-25-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP Sat Oct 16 19:48:22 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux - so is the i686 indicative of a 64 bit system? (I honestly forgot which on I installed here)
[02:38] <histo> Donkeyy: the drive you can't mount?
[02:38] <Donkeyy> yes
[02:38] <Donkeyy> histo: there is windows I believe
[02:38] <histo> sexy: I don't use it but that wiki should explain. And the clients can control the server
[02:38] <Donkeyy> histo: But I dont need it
[02:39] <histo> greezmunkey: x86
[02:39] <Donkeyy> histo: as long as it has ntfs
[02:39] <Pici> greezmunkey: No, i616 is 32bit. if it said x86_64 then it would have been 64 bits.
[02:39] <Donkeyy> and I can transfer data via linux
[02:39] <Kevindeuxieme> evilgeenius> same here, no version of ubuntu as ever been able to recover from sleep or hibernation on my laptops... my solution is to just turn the damn thing off, wors well^^
[02:39] <greezmunkey> Thanks Pici and histo
[02:39] <DrManhattan> Ubuntu sure does look nice though
[02:39] <DrManhattan> lots of nice eye candy
[02:39] <histo> Donkeyy: okay then you can format that parittion. sudo mkfs.ntfs -f /dev/sdb1
[02:39] <DrManhattan> I wish there were more games
[02:39] <histo> Donkeyy: that will format the /dev/sdb1 parition
[02:40] <Donkeyy> ok
[02:40] <histo> DrManhattan: there are plenty of games
[02:40] <DrManhattan> Nah nothing good
[02:40] <Donkeyy> lol, have a nice day it says
[02:40] <histo> Donkeyy: also you may want to laungh cfdisk /dev/sdb1 and remove the boot flag on the drive if you aren't booting it.
[02:40] <Donkeyy> ok histo I think it did it
[02:41] <histo> Donkeyy: the drive is set with a boot flag on the ntfs parition.
[02:41] <DasEi> YiamiYo: did you reboot ?
[02:41] <YiamiYo> DasEi, not yet
[02:41] <histo> DrManhattan: what kind of games do you like?
[02:41] <Vadtec> Dulak: hmmmm, interesting, seems ddwrt has support for the wrtg54g v5 (not the v3 i thought it was)...im gonna try dropping ddwrt on it
[02:41] <Donkeyy> histo: FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive                           Press any key to exit cfdisk
[02:41] <DasEi> YiamiYo: ping me when done
[02:41] <DrManhattan> 3d fps
[02:41] <YiamiYo> histo, so i cannot boot from windows loader using grub?
[02:41] <DrManhattan> it's all about the fps
[02:42] <histo> Donkeyy: hrm...
[02:42] <histo> Donkeyy: gparted should be able to remove that boot flag as well.
[02:42] <histo> Donkeyy: I would also delete the partition and create a new one just to be sure the table isn't all jacked.
[02:42] <Dulak> Vadtec: openwrt for the v3 imo it's better than ddwrt
[02:43] <Vadtec> Dulak: its actually a v5
[02:43] <histo> DrManhattan: urban terror nexuiz sauerbraten open arena
[02:43] <histo> DrManhattan: quakelive.com
[02:43] <Donkeyy> histo: didn't we do that?
[02:43] <Dulak> Vadtec: ahh, then you are stuck with ddwrt-mini
[02:43] <histo> Donkeyy: we only formated the parition. Think of the parition as a container.  You need to format the container to use it.
[02:43] <sexy> Nope. I'm not understanding how to use this. The wiki just says how to install it..
[02:43] <Donkeyy> histo: well said
[02:43] <nuffaaha> new to ubuntu: my wireless configures but will not activate..help?
[02:43] <Vadtec> Dulak: as long as its better than the crap image from linksys :D
[02:44] <Dulak> Vadtec: it's the amount of ram, they skimped on the ram at v5+
[02:44] <Vadtec> Dulak: yeah
[02:44] <Donkeyy> histo: How can we do it gparted?
[02:44] <YiamiYo> anyone else here who knows how i can chainload to windows loader which is in different drive than grub?
[02:44] <Vadtec> :(
[02:44] <histo> Donkeyy: I believe something may be wrong witht he partition table on the drive. The thing that tells the drive where the containers are.  So open up gparted so you can use a gui to manage the disk.
[02:44] <histo> Donkeyy: hit alt+f2 and type in gparted.  It should come up if it's installed.  If not you can install it.... sudo apt-get install gparted
[02:44] <akm22562> Hi all!  I am not new to Linux but new to Ubuntu.  I have a GSM modem in a netbook. Was using gnome-phone-manager for SMS support. It works but holds a device lock on /dev/ttyUSB0 (the modem).
[02:45] <histo> YiamiYo: you have to point grub to the raid.  The people in #grub2 maybe able to help more. I'm busy right now. Unless someone else can chime in.
[02:45] <rue_more> suggestions on verifying a disk from another linux computer?
[02:45] <Donkeyy> histo ok I think im in
[02:45] <neroman> anyone know how I can get the chat/broadcast/mail back up on the top right panel (i'm new obviously)
[02:45] <Vadtec> back in a bit, gonna try flashing this silly thing... :P
[02:46] <histo> Donkeyy: you should have /dev/sda and /dev/sdb  sdb is the one you were saying was the drive you want to use.  So delete the parition on it and remove the boot flag. Create a new parition and format to ntfs
[02:46] <sexy> histo: It just says, Connect to your MPD server using your favorite MPD client and you should be good to go! ...but I dont know even know what port its running on
[02:46] <YiamiYo> histo, no one is in #grub2 :s
[02:47] <Donkeyy> histo yes, its /dev/sdb
[02:47] <waldy> Afternoon all - Q: Has anyone here had experience setting up Apache2.2 on Ubuntu Server 10.04.1 and if so, what can cause Apache to not get host images (.gif / .jpg) and binary files properly. It treats everything like text, which is causing obvious problems here......
[02:47] <MrAnthrope> What is the location of the image files for Appearance Preferences (r-click desktop --> change desktop background) ?
[02:48] <magicjoe> what files do i need to delete or change to cause my login screen to go back to default settings?
[02:48] <cats4gold> Unhandlable error occured when downloading from the Ubuntu Software Center?
[02:48] <MrAnthrope> install plymouth.
[02:48] <MrAnthrope> magicjoe
[02:48] <ubuntu_> mmmmmmmmmm
[02:49] <MrAnthrope> magicjoe, try sudo apt-get plymouth?
[02:49] <coz_> magicjoe,  how did you change it
[02:49] <MrAnthrope> or sudo apt-get install plymouth?
[02:49] <magicjoe> MrAnthrope: ME install plymouth?
[02:49] <magicjoe> and it will fix this?
[02:49] <MrAnthrope> Whatever you do, don't UNINSTALL plymouth or you will have to reinstall Linux :)
[02:49] <Donkeyy> histo: do I right click and select new?
[02:50] <coz_> magicjoe,  you are talking about  where  you put user name  and password  ...yes?
[02:50] <veovis1> I'm using Ubuntu server after mainly using Arch, and I can't find any information on how to do this:  I want to start a screen session at boot as my user, even if no one has logged in.  Can anyone point me to the file I need to add the command to?
[02:50] <MrAnthrope> That's not splash, that's the login background.
[02:50] <MrAnthrope> Oh I thought he said splash. Ignore me.
[02:51] <magicjoe> couldnt find that package
[02:51] <histo> Donkeyy: you need to delete the old parition first
[02:51] <akm22562> Anybody know where the gnokii conf is I dont have a ~/.gnokiirc file?
[02:51] <coz_> magicjoe,   you could reset gnome to its defaults...I believe that should reset the log in screen
[02:51] <histo> Donkeyy: then you can create a new on in the free space on the drive
[02:51] <magicjoe> MrAnthorpe:ok login background, how can i reset it?
[02:51] <coz_> magicjoe,  however I havent tried it so I am not sure
[02:51] <histo> YiamiYo: #grub
[02:51] <magicjoe> MrAnthorpe: Could not find that package.
[02:51] <ubuntu_> kokmmmmmmmmm
[02:51] <Donkeyy> histo: when I scroll up to partition and select delete the delete is greyed
[02:52] <DrManhattan> quake live simply crashes my firefox
[02:52] <coz_> magicjoe,  if you want to reset gnome to default  run this command and reboot    sudo rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity   then restart X
[02:52] <ubuntu_> fuck me
[02:52] <histo> DrManhattan: works for me.
[02:52] <rww> ubuntu_: Please have a read of our channel guidelines.
[02:52] <histo> !language | ubuntu_
[02:52] <rww> ubottu: tell ubuntu_ about guidelines
[02:52] <magicjoe> coz: is there anyway to not delete so much?
[02:52] <coz_> ubuntu_,  you meant to say .. " cheese and crackers"
[02:52] <kish_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1617044
[02:52] <histo> Donkeyy: hrm... is the parition mounted?
[02:53] <kish_> i  have the exact same nic and the same problem
[02:53] <Freeaqingme> Hi. I have an encrypted usb drive. Now I want my screen locked the moment I retract my usb drive, and after I plug it in again, have it ask for my password, and unlock the screen again. How can I do that?
[02:53] <magicjoe> coz: i don't want to lose my desktop/sound/screensavers/and stuff
[02:53] <coz_> magicjoe,  well that is essentially going to reset gnome to the way it was after you first installed it
[02:53] <kish_> can someone bump that thread for me
[02:53] <Skapare> aarcane: where do I get to this config tool you mentioned?
[02:53] <coz_> magicjoe,  mmm
[02:53] <coz_> magicjoe,  how did the login screen change in the first place?
[02:53] <magicjoe> coz:just the login background
[02:53] <Donkeyy> histo: I thihnk
[02:53] <Donkeyy> histo: because when I right click it says "unmount"
[02:53] <histo> Donkeyy: well you have to umount it first before you can modified it.
[02:53] <coz_> magicjoe,  oh behind where you inter password?
[02:54] <magicjoe> coz: i messed with it. trying to dpkg a tarball, with little experience. got one thats not compatible with my architecture
[02:54]  * Skapare is still trying to figure out how to change the background image during the login prompt
[02:54] <histo> Donkeyy: if its mounted you maybe able to use it then to do what you want
[02:54] <Donkeyy> ok histo I unmounted it
[02:54] <barbatruc> veovis1: a combination of su -c  "screen -d -m" username should do it
[02:54] <magicjoe> coz:yes that screen
[02:54] <john38> Can somebody help me with network problem
[02:54] <magicjoe> coz": and only that screen if I can
[02:54] <coz_> magicjoe,  which package was this?
[02:54] <histo> Donkeyy: now you can delete it and create a new parition and format to ntfs
[02:54] <veovis1> barbatruc: Yeah, that's what I was planning, but where can I put that?
[02:54] <histo> !ask | john38
[02:55] <barbatruc> veovis1: /etc/rc.local?
[02:55] <veovis1> ah, thanks
[02:55] <veovis1> that's all I needed
[02:55] <barbatruc> veovis1: pretty standard accross distros
[02:55] <magicjoe> coz: i don't remember its been long. but it was from ubuntu satanic......no im not satanic, i just liked the picture
[02:55] <jrib> veovis1: you should use your user's crontab with @reboot.  Anyway, how did you do it in arch?
[02:55] <barbatruc> jrib: right, even better
[02:55] <Skapare> I guess <aarcane> is afk
[02:56] <john38> histo, i got 2 computers using wireless connection which i swapped HDD's my other computer with USB adapter wont pick up internet signal
[02:56] <etherealite> histo I restarted apache still not effect
[02:56] <Skapare> magicjoe: so you were untarring tarballs?
[02:56] <coz_> magicjoe,  ok  this is will allow you to change the background image  let me upload  the text  file hold on
[02:56] <histo> etherealite: you need to reload phpmyadmin I think that is running as a service also.
[02:56] <waldy> Guys, if anyone has any answer to my question please message me Q: Has anyone here had experience setting up Apache2.2 on Ubuntu Server 10.04.1 and if so, what can cause Apache to not get host images (.gif / .jpg) and binary files properly. It treats everything like text, which is causing obvious problems here......
[02:56] <histo> etherealite: /j #phpmyadmin
[02:56] <etherealite> histo phpmyadmin is a php app, its running as a apache vhost
[02:56] <coz_> magicjoe,    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/GDM-NEW-MAVERICK
[02:57] <aarcane> Skapare, used to be an app called gdm-config or gdm-admin or some such.  it still exists, but now it has like 1 page with 2 options total.  once upon a time it let you do everything under the sun.
[02:57] <coz_> magicjoe,  now one thing about that... it will open the apprearance propterties window as root
[02:57] <john38> histo, the computer with usb adapter wont pick up any internet signal anywhere strange???
[02:57] <magicjoe> coz: so what is that file? i just go get that file and open it?
[02:57] <Flannel> waldy: What did you do to set up apache2?
[02:57] <coz_> magicjoe,   you go to the background tab and choose an image
[02:57] <histo> john38: has that adapter ever worked in linux?
[02:57] <coz_> magicjoe,  yeah right click that link and "open in browser"
[02:57] <coz_> magicjoe,   save to desktop
[02:57] <coz_> magicjoe,  read it
[02:58] <Skapare> aarcane: so is that why Ubuntu is getting away from Gnome?
[02:58] <neroman> anyone from Abany,NY?
[02:58] <john38> histo, yeah worked fine before
[02:58] <Donkeyy> histo: when I am done everything do I remount it or leave it unmounted?
[02:58] <coz_> magicjoe,  then  remember to follow the directions again so that when you log off it doesn bring up that dialog
[02:58] <histo> john38: check system > admin > hardware drivers
[02:58] <Pici> neroman: You may want to try asking in #ubuntu-us-ny
[02:58] <aarcane> Skapare, I think it's the other way around, but I don't know.
[02:58] <Donkeyy> histo: if I want windows to read it for example
[02:58] <histo> Donkeyy: when you are done you need to mount it to use it.
[02:58] <histo> Donkeyy: windows is completely seperate.
[02:59] <john38> histo, i just installed win 7 and ubuntu to dual boot on this computer using router
[02:59] <Donkeyy> histo: I know but I mean I just have some media like pics and movies I want to transfer
[02:59] <Donkeyy> will those be accessable
[02:59] <john38> histo, and swapped HDD's from both
[02:59] <poutyface> I've installed 10.10.1 64bit, and my machine has 4GB of RAM. However I only see 3.6GB. Do I need to install a -pae kernel?
[02:59] <histo> Donkeyy: the pictures and movies are in windows or ubuntu?
[02:59] <Skapare> aarcane: is it "more user friendly" to reduce choice, or to increase choice (that maybe one of the choices will be what the user wants to do)?
[02:59] <Donkeyy> they were in windows
[03:00] <john38> histo, theres nothing wrong with adapter
[03:00] <psusi> poutyface, pae only applies to 32 bit kernels
[03:00] <aarcane> Skapare, it's more end-user friendly, and less power-user friendly.
[03:00] <Donkeyy> but ubuntu could access them
[03:00] <Donkeyy> histo
[03:00] <jrib> poutyface: how are you determining how much you see?
[03:00] <Skapare> PAE is being depricated ... no one needs it anymore
[03:00] <poutyface> jrib: free -m
[03:00] <john38> histo, could it be when installed win 7 and configured networks for internet that it got messed up
[03:00] <histo> Donkeyy: well you can use windows or ubuntu to copy the files over
[03:01] <histo> john38: no windows has nothing to do with networking in ubuntu
[03:01] <magicjoe> coz: hey what do i do with this file? i opened it and did the first step, nothing happened....now it wants me to logout?
[03:01] <Donkeyy> ok, so I must keep it mounted right?
[03:01] <ephram_mcbeal> Hi. Anyone use 10.10 installed in an iBook G4?
[03:01] <DrManhattan> this isnt working at all and im very disappointed
[03:01] <MACK1E> ran the update manager, found a flash something another, it locked up hosed my entire update manager
[03:01] <cats4gold> is anyone available to help me use the make command?
[03:01] <cats4gold> it should be simple, but something isn't working
[03:01] <psusi> poutyface, most likely your motherboard does not support memory hoisting so things like the video frame buffer are being allocated under the 4gb mark for compatability with 32 bit operating systems, and that makes the ram at those addresses if it can not be hoisted
[03:02] <evilgeenius> Kevindeuxieme: I'd have thought that ubuntu would have figured out how to reliably return from sleep mode by now,,,
[03:02] <Skapare> aarcane: and I'm not a "power user" in the GUI sense ... I'm a hardware/systems guy ... I hack BIOSes, boot loaders, kernels, and init scripts ... I'm clueless about GUI environments
[03:02] <jrib> poutyface: is it possible you have a computer that uses ram for video memory?
[03:02] <veovis1> barbatruc: That worked, thanks.
[03:02] <poutyface> cats4gold: use it for what, exactly
[03:02] <john38> histo, what the heck could it be i just reinstalled ubuntu 10.04 64 bit on other computer
[03:02] <veovis1> unfortunately, I have to go
[03:02] <barbatruc> veovis1: sweet
[03:02] <veovis1> shutting down
[03:02] <poutyface> jrib: ah, yes, I do. I should have thought of that :)
[03:02] <Skapare> aarcane: if it's "abstract" it makes no sense to me
[03:02] <psusi> s/makes/masks
[03:02] <cats4gold> poutyface: compiling the source for a minecraft mapper
[03:02] <histo> john38: no idea.  is the card being detected lspci or lsusb and are the drivers being loaded?
[03:02] <aarcane> Skapare, sounds like someone else I know.  anyway, I'm poofing.
[03:02] <john38> histo, the gnome network applet "wave sign had red exclamation
[03:03] <Skapare> aarcane: bye ... and thanks
[03:03] <magicjoe> coz: are you there?
[03:03] <subone> My SMPlayer now shows no video and I'm forced to go back to using gnome-mplayer for the time being. IDK why because it was working before and it is using the same mplayer as gmplayer is. What would be my first step to troubleshoot this issue or determine why this suddenly happened?
[03:03] <john38> histo, this is the weird part when i reinstalled network connections shows up as wired auto etho0
[03:03] <histo> john38: most likely cuz networking is disabled you get that. just enable it.
[03:04] <Evanah649> hi guys
[03:04] <xman> hey evan
[03:04] <john38> histo, as if it was still plugged into my system
[03:04] <john38> histo, network is enalbed
[03:04] <john38> histo, by defualt
[03:04] <coz_> magicjoe,  yes you have to log out after running the first command
[03:04] <john38> histo, what is lspci or lsusb??
[03:04] <magicjoe> coz: HEY I THINK ITS SOLVED!!!! SWEET THANK YOU
[03:04] <cats4gold> Can I post an error, or will that stretch the page a bit much?
[03:04] <histo> john38: they show devices detected by the system
[03:05] <Evanah649> i need help lol. trying to run a game under wine and after installing it gives an error saying "Failed to initialize direct3D. Aborting." Does anyone know how to fix this?
[03:05] <coz_> magicjoe,  then when you have chosen the background image  ,, log back in and then run the second commad  to prevent the dialog from opening each time
[03:05] <Skapare> hmmm ... I posted my question on ubuntuforums.org ... but then realized I didn't yet do a net wide google ... so I do that and get ONE hit ... my post
[03:05] <john38> histo, when i right click on gnome network applet its has check to networking enabled
[03:06] <john38> histo, if networking is disabled how do i enable it
[03:06] <cats4gold> Can anyone look at this error I get when running make?
[03:06] <Skapare> coz_: is there a simple way to just change the GDM login background image?
[03:07] <coz_> Skapare,  that is about the simplest way I know of
[03:07]  * Skapare doesn't want one for grub
[03:07] <sexy> Can someone help me get MPD to work?
[03:07] <john38> histo, ?
[03:08] <DasEi> !yay | YiamiYo:
[03:08] <histo> john38: you have to enable wireless
[03:08] <Skapare> coz_: looks confusing
[03:08] <john38> histo, where
[03:08] <YiamiYo> ty
[03:08] <j_> ??
[03:08] <histo> john38: under that same menu
[03:08] <histo> !wireless | john38
[03:09] <john38> histo, but Enable Networking is checked
[03:09] <histo> john38: you'll ahve to follow the troubleshooting or howto's or ask someone else
[03:10] <Evanah649> so did anyone get this error when trying to run a game under wine - "Failed to initialize direct3D"?
[03:11] <Evanah649> come on, passionate gamers, where are u... :)
[03:11] <illdecree> can someone help with a bluetooth issue?
[03:11] <Pici> Evanah649: Wine's support channel is #winehq, they might have a better answer for you.
[03:12] <Pici> !appdb | Evanah649 also see
[03:12] <rooks> how to restart compiz? since i cant alt-tab right now?
[03:12] <Evanah649> oh thanks, Pici
[03:12] <Evanah649> I tried all the forums but no help there so i came here
[03:12] <sexy> MPD isnt working for me =/
[03:12] <Evanah649> i'll try #winehq, tnx again!
[03:13] <Donkeyy> I have a very interesting question
[03:14] <Donkeyy> I have a 80gb HD if I want half linux half windows which one should I instal first?
[03:14] <psusi> Donkeyy, best to install windows first, then ubuntu
[03:14] <histo> Donkeyy: windows
[03:14] <histo> !dualboot > Donkeyy
[03:14] <Donkeyy> psusi: OK, but can I specify how much hd I want reserved for windows
[03:15] <Donkeyy> I dont remember it askin
[03:15] <Skapare> coz_: I wish someone would just write a straight-forward no-non-sense no-hidden-agenda document that just tells people what all those fields in all the gnome config files really mean
[03:15] <psusi> Donkeyy, just install windows normally using the whole hd, then when you install ubuntu, it will ask you how much to shrink windows by
[03:15] <DrManhattan> I demand someone help me fix my quakelive
[03:16]  * DrManhattan shakes his fist
[03:16] <histo> DrManhattan: the quakelive forums maybe a good start.
[03:16] <Donkeyy> psusi: what if the hardrive with windows was full?
[03:16] <histo> DrManhattan: try launching firefox from terminal so you get some output when it crashes also.
[03:16] <psusi> Donkeyy, full as in full of files, or full as in only one partition using the whole disk?
[03:16] <histo> Donkeyy: If there is no empty space it can't resize it.
[03:16] <DrManhattan> fine.
[03:17] <histo> DrManhattan: Does it just close or what?
[03:17] <Donkeyy> histo: exactly
[03:17] <Donkeyy> so histo if I am to install windows first, wouldn't it use the whole hard disk like always
[03:17] <histo> Donkeyy: but if your windows drive is completely full you have other issues to contend with. pagefile.sys etc...
[03:18] <histo> Donkeyy: it will use the whole disk or you can tell it to create a smaller partition, only use lets say half the drive.
[03:18] <Kevindeuxieme> you can always shrink the partition fromm windows after install
[03:18] <illdecree> histo: could you help me with bluetooth on meerkat? i've got my headphones paired, but don't know how to pipe the music to them instead of the speakers...
[03:18] <Donkeyy> yes histo thats exactly what I want to do
[03:18] <histo> Donkeyy: you can resize paritions to make room for ubuntu. The installer will do this.
[03:18] <histo> Donkeyy: either way it will work.
[03:18] <Donkeyy> the ubuntu installer histo?
[03:19] <cats4gold> Can somebody take a look at this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1626112
[03:19] <Kevindeuxieme> the windows one to be on the more or less safe side
[03:19] <psusi> Donkeyy, yes, the Ubuntu installer will shrink the windows partition to make room, as long as it isn't full
[03:19] <DrManhattan><EMAIL_ADDRESS>wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32]
[03:19] <histo> Donkeyy: correct after windows is installed just run the ubuuntu installer. If there is no room outside of the parition it will want to resize the /dev/sda1 and create room.
[03:19] <histo> !dualboot | Donkeyy
[03:19] <histo> DrManhattan: are you running 64bit?
[03:20] <DrManhattan> yep
[03:20] <histo> DrManhattan: you need the ia32libs
[03:20] <DrManhattan> ok
[03:20] <histo> DrManhattan: unless they have a 64bit version
[03:21] <DrManhattan> ia32-libs is already the newest version.
[03:21] <message144> Hi, are there any advantages to using UFW over iptables other than simplicity?
[03:22] <humanMeat> hrm
[03:22] <humanMeat> openvpn people insist openvpn is still good software
[03:22] <humanMeat> even though their installer for the windows client comes with a client that hasn't been updated since 2005
[03:23] <illdecree> what's wrong with openvpn? i've got little experience with it, but i was never unhappy with it...?
[03:23] <humanMeat> illdecree
[03:23] <illdecree> humanmeat: yes?
[03:23] <humanMeat> would you use some software that has not been updated for the latest versions of an OS
[03:23] <humanMeat> for 5 years?
[03:23] <humanMeat> and it breaks when you run the installer
[03:23] <illdecree> i wasn't aware of that LOL. been years since i used it or even looked at it
[03:23] <jacky> No, humanMeat.
[03:23] <greezmunkey> cats4gold: yeah, your make script can't find a file: fatal error: zlib.h
[03:23] <jacky> humanMeat: what are you referring to.
[03:23] <humanMeat> jacky, openvpn 2.14
[03:24] <illdecree> so, i wouldn't. good to know, b/c i was actually considering it for a project awhile back...
[03:24] <humanMeat> it comes packaged with a openvpn gui client 1.03 copyright 2002-2005
[03:24] <illdecree> hey, humanMeat, are you good with bluetooth in meerkat?
[03:24] <humanMeat> no
[03:24] <humanMeat> i haven't used bluetooth yet
[03:24] <humanMeat> lolol
[03:25] <jacky> humanMeat: wow, I never knew that. DEFINITELY a security issue.
[03:25] <illdecree> i haven't either, and i'm stuck...
[03:25] <illdecree> anyone else in here good with bluetooth in 10.10?
[03:25] <Exploiter> i remember it took me year to finally able to run bluetooth on linux. but that was 5-6 yrs ago when things were hard..
[03:25] <message144> illdecree, i didnt  even know bluetooth works with linux
[03:25] <message144> heh
[03:26] <message144> illdecree, could have fooled me
[03:26] <humanMeat> linux has trouble supporting gadgety hardware
[03:26] <humanMeat> video cards.. web cams
[03:26] <tpocra> I tried to make a live USB with 10.10 Desktop i386 with unetBootin but when I boot off it, I get "no init found, Try passing init= bootarg etc. etc."
[03:26] <illdecree> message144: i've managed to get my s305's paired, but i can't pipe audio into the headphones
[03:26] <illdecree> :-/
[03:26] <humanMeat> linux is for server. not for desktop
[03:26] <sexy> Hey guys, I cant get MPD to work
[03:26] <message144> illdecree, oh yeah, ive been down linux audio hell a few times... i dont envy you
[03:26] <Exploiter> humanMeat, i m using linux as desktop from last decade, and i have no problem with it.
[03:26] <humanMeat> until you want 64 bit support for your web cam
[03:26] <humanMeat> or blue tooth or quad SLI
[03:27] <illdecree> message144:   :-)    i'm not quite there yet, maybe purgatory
[03:27] <illdecree> but, it's a quick jump to the 7th circle of hell
[03:28] <humanMeat> i'm just going to use it for its intended purpose.. server alternative to unix
[03:28] <vic20gmr> is there a total noob channel for ubuntu ?
[03:28] <message144> illdecree, i did notice ubuntu audio got way better with 10.04 over the previous releases though.. im hoping its not something i need to worry about anymore
[03:28] <maco> vic20gmr: thisd be the place for all levels of tech support (though mostly new user stuff gets answered the most as more people know it)
[03:29] <message144> humanMeat, strangely enough, is it even best suited for that (server alternative to unix)? If that was your objective, why not go bsd?
[03:29] <illdecree> message144: i sure hope so. i'd love to figure out how to get some headphones working. would make going to work a lot more enjoyable
[03:29] <Exploiter> question: anyone know knows how can i wrap long file names in nautilus (maverick) ??
[03:29] <humanMeat> message144, iptables is too hard
[03:29] <message144> illdecree, if it helps, ive had much better luck with logitech usb headphones, than with analog 1/8" headphones with ubuntu
[03:30] <histo> DrManhattan: hrm..
[03:30] <humanMeat> i use AIX at work
[03:30] <vic20gmr> i c, well ive been researching video stuff, cuz my primary thing i use a computer for is gaming, and i have an old radeon 9600 card, i want to be windows free, but the last time i tried running games it didnt go so well
[03:30] <humanMeat> vic20gmr, linux is not for hardcore gaming
[03:30] <vic20gmr> i ran across something called a puppy? i dont have the foggiest wut that is
[03:30] <humanMeat> sorry to break it to you.
[03:30] <illdecree> message144: that might be something to look into... i've been using analog for awhile now, and i'd like to cut the cord, and go wireless
[03:30] <histo> DrManhattan: let me do some googling
[03:30] <humanMeat> wine only works "almost" and crashes a lot the other non-almost times
[03:31] <message144> illdecree, yeah, ive never had luck with the analog headphones on my ubuntu machines.. the logitech usb support is really good though
[03:31] <DrManhattan> yeah this is lame
[03:31] <DrManhattan> very sad.
[03:31] <message144> illdecree, of course it depends on the sound card
[03:31] <humanMeat> linux is basically for nerds heheh.. programming. server.
[03:31] <vic20gmr> i see many good games for linux, nexuiz and assault cube appeal to me, and the only windows games i would run either havelinux native bnaries, or are old enuff for performance to not be so much an issue
[03:32] <illdecree> i'll have to remember that. do you know of any good USB to headphones (wireless) setups that are good? even if they are RF, i'd consider them. i just wanna be able to walk around at work and not have to take off my headphones 1000x a day
[03:32] <vic20gmr> i als ran quake 4 on a friends computer, under ubuntu 10.04 lts fine
[03:32] <maco> humanMeat: ubuntu's tagline is "linux for human beings" -- that is, not just the nerdy human beings
[03:32] <slgma> im not a programmer ora nerd
[03:32] <slgma> nor do i run a server
[03:32] <slgma> but me and my whole family use ubuntu
[03:32] <illdecree> slgma: seconded
[03:32] <histo> DrManhattan: they have a fix posted somehwere some guy was linking to it in his sig
[03:32] <maco> vic20gmr: puppy is a different linux distro (ie, not ubuntu), but it's very lightweight.
[03:32] <Error404NotFound> how do i find the common lines between 3 files? for difference i can use a 3 way diff but what about common?
[03:32] <vic20gmr> im happy for all of you, so wuts a "puppy"?
[03:32] <DrManhattan> histo - I looked, there's nothing in his sig
[03:32] <DrManhattan> it just links to some bs thread
[03:32] <Sir_Konrad> How do I restart my audio system?
[03:33] <maco> Sir_Konrad: sudo alsa force-reload
[03:33] <Sir_Konrad> thank's maco.
[03:33] <greezmunkey> I'm a geek for 4x4's, huntung, fishing, anything electronic, welding, and chopping wood...oh, and for linux too :)
[03:33] <MintBerryCrunch> rdw: If you're here, thanks so much for all the help. The reinstall worked, so I must have made a mistake somewher xD
[03:33] <Exploiter> question: anyone know knows how can i wrap long file names in nautilus (maverick) ??
[03:33] <illdecree> while i'm in here: does anyone know if VMware player works on 10.10? if so, how the hell do i install a .bundle?
[03:33] <Sir_Konrad> sweet. It worked. Thanks maco.
[03:34] <vic20gmr> maco wud thre be advantge to my using it instead of ubuntu [keeping in mind my main task is gaming]?
[03:34] <maco> vic20gmr: i dont know. i havent used it. it may have fewer services running in the background which would divert less cpu usage away from your game. itd only matter if you're on old hardware though
[03:35] <vic20gmr> illdecree o recomend virtualbox
[03:35] <histo> DrManhattan: looks like a currrent but with quakelive i'd search there forums
[03:35] <illdecree> vic20gmr: i can't use virtualbox for this application. i need to run backtrack4, and i need support for an alfa (USB)
[03:35] <DrManhattan> meh
[03:35] <vic20gmr> im on old hardware p4-2.533mhx, 512 mb main ram, radeon 9600/256mb
[03:36] <vic20gmr> aand host based audio
[03:36] <DrManhattan> how can I tell if I'm running 32 or 64 bit firefox
[03:36] <vic20gmr> ahh
[03:36] <vic20gmr> about?
[03:36] <illdecree> DrManhattan: shouldn't Help>About show you?
[03:36] <histo> DrManhattan: or try chrome or a 64bit version of firefox
[03:37] <buddhi> how can i install gyache yahoo messenger
[03:37] <buddhi> ????
[03:37] <vic20gmr> any one of a channel targeting linux gamers?
[03:38] <illdecree> speaking of channels, does anyone know of a good IRC channel for gun enthusiasts?
[03:38] <Skapare> finally ... the simple answer to the first question I asked ... edit this file:  /var/lib/gdm/.gconf/desktop/gnome/background/%gconf.xml
[03:38] <rww> illdecree: #guns or ##guns, by the look of /msg alis list *gun*
[03:39] <vic20gmr> gun enthusiast/fps gamers, the only diff is a three day wait hehe
[03:39] <Skapare> vic20gmr: not where I live :)
[03:39] <illdecree> LOL, thanks for that... is it on freenode?
[03:39] <vic20gmr> hehe
[03:39] <rww> illdecree: yes, they're both freenode channels
[03:39] <rww> probably other networks would have larger channels about them, though
[03:39] <illdecree> rww: thanks!
[03:40] <illdecree> rww: i hope to find a good one. i'm not too familiar with IRC, so i'll have to stumble until i find it :-)
[03:40] <Exploiter> question: anyone know knows how can i wrap long file names in nautilus (maverick) ??
[03:41] <archana8763> How do i create a new user from recovery mode  root terminal?
[03:41] <frooh> hey guys, I just made my / partition an lv (lvm);  I made a vanilla, ext2 boot partition and put everything from /boot in there, but I can't seem to figure out how to get grub to boot with the lv as root
[03:41] <maco> Exploiter: if its not in the nautilus preferences and running gconf-editor and navigating to /apps/nautilus (i think...) doesnt list it somewhere as a key, then its not an option
[03:41] <greezmunkey> Exploiter: why not just use a list view?
[03:41] <archana8763> How do i create a new user from recovery mode  root terminal?
[03:42] <Exploiter> well.. i dont like it..
[03:42] <greezmunkey> Exploiter: well, there you go...
[03:42] <Exploiter> i want to see my video colelction in thumbnail view with proper text names
[03:42] <droundloopy> abhijit I understand abut manuals but that does not help.
[03:42] <Exploiter> comeon.. what ya'll do if you want to see thumbnails too??
[03:42] <vic20gmr> if i were to use an older ubuntu distro, would i get older fglrx drivers?
[03:42] <maco> Exploiter: i use dolphin instead of nautilus
[03:43] <maco> Exploiter: it's kde's file manager
[03:43] <droundloopy> abhijit  I need help
[03:43]  * droundloopy east updated sitehowto
[03:43]  * droundloopy *easy
[03:44] <Exploiter> maco, do it have wrap file name function?? i m using nautilus extented(something) is dolphin is good?
[03:44] <maomaochong> 大家中午好
[03:44] <Exploiter> mao ki maa ki chut
[03:45] <maco> Exploiter: yes, dolphin wraps filenames by default
[03:45] <maomaochong> ？？
[03:45] <bkanuka_> hey i'm trying to use my registered name with gnome xchat
[03:45] <maco> !cn | maomaochong
[03:45] <droundloopy> Mines been fine
[03:45] <droundloopy> :( night
[03:45] <bkanuka_> it's automatically adding a _ to my username
[03:45] <Exploiter> maco, ok gonna try it now..
[03:46] <maco> Exploiter: you can set in its preferences how many lines it should use. mine is set to use 2. i think thats default
[03:46] <rww> bkanuka_: Because freenode thinks there's a bkanuka user already. If that's you and your connection went funky or something, /msg nickserv ghost bkanuka passwordhere
[03:46] <Exploiter> i wonder if gconf-editor have such function.. if not gonna see if be able to implement it or not.
[03:47] <droundloopy> anyone know a easy or want help give instructions
[03:47] <vic20gmr> maco would i get older fglrx drivers if i used an old version of ubuntu?
[03:47] <greezmunkey> Exploiter: hmm, I created a file and gave it a very long name. It seems to have wrapped just fine.
[03:47] <christopher> just built a new machine and installed maverick. i'm getting tons of segfaults in random apps. it's probably a hardware issue... :/
[03:47] <DrManhattan> yep
[03:47] <greezmunkey> Exploiter: 8 lines, until I gave up.
[03:47] <bkanuka_> rww, did that make my password show up in chat?
[03:47] <rww> bkanuka_: no
[03:48] <Exploiter> default in nutilus its 3 lines, i just notices.. want to make it 1 line only..
[03:48] <maco> vic20gmr: yes
[03:48] <droundloopy> ill do on own more homework
[03:48] <bkanuka_> rww, im still chatting is bkanuka_ should i restart xchat?
[03:49] <rww> bkanuka_: type /nick bkanuka
[03:49] <vic20gmr> maco thx for info
[03:49] <bkanuka> rww, thank you
[03:49] <droundloopy> do you need a static or public ip for anonymously surfing
[03:49] <bkanuka> where can I find out more about IRC? I really dont undertand much about it
[03:50] <DrManhattan> I think I want some ice cream.
[03:50] <archana8763> how to add a new user account from recovery mode netroot?
[03:50] <DrManhattan> I have the munchies.
[03:50] <DrManhattan> and gas
[03:50] <sacarlson> archana8763:  try look at man adduser
[03:50] <droundloopy> DrManhattan #ubuntu-offtpick
[03:51] <droundloopy> DrManhattan #ubuntu-offtpic
[03:51] <droundloopy> DrManhattan #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:51] <archana8763> sacarlson, Thanks, I will.
[03:51] <rww> bkanuka: There are some primers linked at the top of http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml . I don't know of a good one, though; it's been so long since I learned ;)
[03:51] <mappum> My ubuntu install did not come with libpng or zlib which were needed for a project I am working on. Am I missing something to easily add them to my gcc includes? Gcc does not find zlib.h or png.h (I am using apt-get to install)
[03:51] <al_nz1> how do I tell if my graphics card supports CUDA/
[03:51]  * droundloopy spelt coffee  on laptop
[03:52] <Exploiter> gconf-editor > nautilus > icon_view > text_ellipis = now its wrap1 line only, done.. wonder why theres no manual of it on inegoogle
[03:53] <john38> anybody know what lsusb is and how to load network drivers
[03:53] <john38> ??
[03:53]  * droundloopy|away looks for keyboard
[03:53] <rww> ubottu: away | droundloopy|away
[03:53] <bazhang> droundloopy|away, please stop with the /me commands
[03:54] <Luqman> Hello
[03:54] <john38> how do i tell ubuntu to use lsusb and load network drivers
[03:54] <Luqman> I would like to know where ubuntu mounts the filesystem while it is installing
[03:54] <mappum> how do i include zlib and libpng?
[03:54] <Skapare> Luqman: somewhere near /mnt
[03:55] <al_nz1> how do I tell if I am running 64bit or 32bit Ubunutu?
[03:55] <john38> anybody know what lsusb is and how to load network drivers
[03:55] <Skapare> Luqman: why not break in while it is installing and see
[03:55] <Luqman> Skapare, as in use kill -STOP ?
[03:55] <Skapare> Luqman: as in, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and do "df"
[03:56] <Luqman> ctrl+alt+f1 breaks it?
[03:56] <Skapare> Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back
[03:56] <Luqman> I didn't know that
[03:56] <Skapare> not "break" ... but "break in"
[03:56] <Luqman> I thought it let it run in the background
[03:56] <Luqman> would it sort of pause?
[03:56] <vic20gmr> maco if i put visual effects on lowest setting, do you think that will have a positive impact on 3d game performance?
[03:56] <Skapare> it will still run ... but that "break in" is a switch to a text console
[03:56] <Skapare> no, it will keep going
[03:56] <maco> vic20gmr: no, i think itll be negative. visual effects should be off
[03:57] <shcherbak> john38: man lsusb, and what wifi dongle are you using?
[03:57] <taroven> Anyone aware of a way to lock a devices volume in Pulseaudio/ALSA? Having some annoying overdrive issues, and my volume gets reset on user switches.
[03:57] <Luqman> ok, well what I'm trying to do  is remount the btrfs with the option compress
[03:57] <Skapare> it's not even in background ... it's "in" another console
[03:57] <vic20gmr> maco, ok thanks
[03:57] <Skapare> Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to the install (usually F7 ... something F8 or even F9)
[03:57] <Luqman> yes
[03:57] <john38> shcherbak, TP-lInk usb adapter
[03:58] <Luqman> Skapare, would pausing the ubiquity process also pause the install process?
[03:58] <Skapare> Luqman: I can't say for that
[03:59] <shcherbak> john38: one moment, oh, lsusb lists usb ports and devices
[03:59] <gasull> Has anybody tried to run apt-get with a proxy?  http://dpaste.com/277576/  It fails to fetch every single repo.
[03:59] <Skapare> gasull: have not yet but was planning to try that at work
[03:59] <john38> shcherbak, the other ubuntu computer wont pick usb adapter for internet
[04:00] <d3v0> anybody here good with evolution mail
[04:00] <d3v0> all of a suddent i cant send mail but i can receive it
[04:01] <mappum> how can i set my libraries I have recently installed (apt-get) to be included in g++?
[04:01] <Skapare> gasull: not sure if needed here, but I have seen SOME programs that fail if a URL ends in the host:port part w/o a trailing '/'
[04:01] <ollie_> bello
[04:01] <d3v0> it says (cannot connect to smtp server)
[04:01] <Skapare> gasull: you might append / to that proxy URL and try again just to be sure
[04:01] <ollie_> vista or ubuntu u decide should i unistall vist
[04:01] <Skapare> gasull: I assume you verified the proxy with a browser
[04:01] <bkanuka> hey is there a way to hide messages about people joining or leaving and just see the talk?
[04:02] <Skapare> mappum: "my libraries" are your own personal ones?  installed by what means?
[04:02] <rww> bkanuka: /set irc_conf_mode 1
[04:02] <taroven> bkanuka: Assuming xchat, rightclick #ubuntu in your channel list, head to Settings, and toggle "Hide Join/Part Messages"
[04:02] <gasull> Skapare: thanks but it doesn't work :-(
[04:03] <rww> bkanuka: (what I said is for all channels, what taroven is for one channel)
[04:03] <capleton> hey, in a terminal, how can you tell the free space left on a particular device?
[04:03] <sacarlson> gasull: is proxy from your self posible?  does your proxy from yourself work with a browser?
[04:03] <rww> capleton: df -h
[04:03] <mappum> Skapare: ones I am assuming are standard such as zlib and pnglib, i used apt-get
[04:03] <bkanuka> rww: where should I learn about these things?
[04:03] <shcherbak> john38: refer to this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsTP-Link, eventually try to find installation method by googling usb ID with linux or ubuntu
[04:03] <Skapare> gasull: then I guess you'll need to do some network sniffing to see what is happening wrong
[04:03] <taroven> Anyone aware of a way to lock a devices volume in Pulseaudio/ALSA? Having some annoying overdrive issues, and my volume gets reset on user switches.
[04:03] <Skapare> gasull: or wait until I get around to doing a proxy at work + time to debug it
[04:04] <rww> bkanuka: I got that off Google, but #xchat might be helpful ;)
[04:04] <shcherbak> john38: what version of Ubuntu we talk?
[04:04] <bkanuka> also what program SHOULD i be using? xchat or gnome xchat
[04:04] <taroven> bkanuka: Same diff.
[04:04] <john38> shcherbak, 10.04.1 LTs
[04:04] <Vadtec> Dulak: well, at least i got my wrt54g v5 flashed to dd-wrt :D
[04:05] <Skapare> taroven: you mean you have to lower the volume on current music, and switch user means have to lower it all over again?
[04:05] <capleton> thnx rww
[04:05] <bkanuka> rww: thanks.  I know i should just google but i've yet to find a solid guide.  I haven't found xchat very new user friendly
[04:05] <rww> bkanuka: It's a matter of opinion, but I'd personally recommend xchat instead of xchat-gnome.
[04:05] <bkanuka> sorry, not xchat, IRC
[04:05] <gasull> sacarlson: I'm using ssh tunneling as a proxy
[04:06] <taroven> Skapare: For example, I use two sound devices (one USB, one internal) - The USB device is set to 100% volume, internal needs to be set to 63% to prevent overdrive. Switching users puts the USB device to 11% and the internal to 89% every time.
[04:06] <Skapare> gasull: what ssh option?
[04:06] <sacarlson> gasull: ok and does firefox work with it?
[04:06] <Skapare> taroven: even though you have set the volume also in the other user?
[04:06] <sexy> AHH this is getting frustrating. Niether MPD nor Subsonic are working. Any help?
[04:07] <taroven> Skapare: Correct. Bit odd if you ask me.
[04:07] <gasull> Skapare, sacarlson: yes, Firefox is working with it: ssh -ND 7777 -p 587 example.com
[04:07] <john38> shcherbak, i think when i configured network with windows 7 it messed up everything
[04:07] <shcherbak> can you give me line from lsusb?
[04:07] <taroven> Skapare: Gimme 20 seconds and I'll doublecheck.
[04:07] <d3v0> im having a problem with evolution mail i cant send mail but i cant receive it, none of my settings have changed and the error i get says i cant connect to smtp server
[04:07] <Skapare> taroven: agreed, odd ... each user has its volume state which has issues ... but it shouldn't require repeating that on every switch
[04:07] <shcherbak> john38: are you using wubi?
[04:07] <john38> shcherbak, several
[04:08] <john38> shcherbak, im running windows 7 and ubuntu dual boot on this one
[04:08] <Skapare> gasull: you have specified HTTP proxying, not SOCKS proxying, in that config
[04:08] <john38> shcherbak, i have only ubuntu on other computer with usb adapter
[04:09] <Skapare> gasull: I'm not sure it can do socks proxying
[04:09] <shcherbak> john38: only line for that device (need to plugged in), if this is dual-boot configs are independent.
[04:09] <Skapare> gasull: but you might try "http://" -> "socks://" or "socks5://" to see if
[04:09] <d3v0> im having a problem with evolution mail i cant send mail but i cant receive it, none of my settings have changed and the error i get says i cant connect to smtp server
[04:10] <taroven> Skapare: Correction, volume on the other user was completely screwed. Still very confused as to why the second user would be able to force my volume levels while mine have no effect on it.
[04:10] <john38> shcherbak, it said Atheros Communications Inc
[04:10] <shcherbak> d3v0: make sure thet configuration is ok (password and ssl)
[04:10] <Skapare> gasull: otherwise you might need to run a socks library wedge (forget the name of it) to force all connect() sys calls to call a socks support function
[04:10] <shcherbak> john38: yes, whole line
[04:10] <john38> shcherbak, hold on
[04:11] <Skapare> taroven: each user has its own volume level ... logout one and login other, it will change to the other's volume ... direct user switch I believe would do exactly the same
[04:12] <gasull> Skapare: tried with "socks".  Also, I captured the network traffic with Wireshark while using "http" in /etc/apt/apt.conf
[04:12] <Skapare> taroven: it makes sense in cases where each user is a different real person playing different stuff ... but it's annoying when one user is crossing up multiple stuff at different levels AND multiple userids that have to keep changing
[04:13] <Luqman> Okay after some trickery, I've got btrfs mounted with compress :D
[04:13] <Skapare> gasull: it will try to do HTTP style proxying ... any chance you can set up an HTTP proxy server at the far end of your SSH connection ... and use -L on SSH to pass the connection to the proxy server?
[04:14] <Luqman> Thanks for the help Skapare
[04:14] <Skapare> gasull: apache, squid, etc for proxy HTTP style
[04:14] <gasull> Skapare: mmm... I never tried that
[04:14] <taroven> Skapare: *shrug* It's not a big deal either way. I've got the second user's login details if I need to reset it again. I'm a lot more curious about the second part of the original question, preventing overdrive by either locking ALSA PCM volume or setting a custom max level to the pulseaudio volume controls.
[04:14] <xTheGoat121x> Hibernate is currently not working on my laptop -- it had previously worked.  I can list symptoms when needed
[04:14] <john38> shcherbak, BUS 001 Device 005: ID 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc.
[04:15] <Skapare> taroven: what you need is basically single-state volume levels so a user switch OR logout/login doesn't change it
[04:16] <Skapare> taroven: but ... that seems to not be considered the "friendly way" by certain people
[04:16] <bkanuka> I had some people help me out a few minutes ago - thanks.  I've just been messing around in xchat settings
[04:16] <Skapare> taroven: similar to the "I want my wireless connection to stay up across user switch"
[04:17] <shcherbak> john38: have you tried Hardware Drivers from menu?
[04:17] <sexy_> Can someone please help me set up Subsonic or MPD? Having a tough time
[04:17] <taroven> Skapare: Not a big enough deal to bother with, honestly. I can always just readjust if needed. I still do want volume sliders that make sense though - ie, 100% volume not sounding like I just blew out my speakers.
[04:18] <john38> shcherbak, well i cant connect to internet so i dont know
[04:20] <john38> shcherbak, ??
[04:20] <Skapare> taroven: there is separate volume and master volume settings at the driver/device level ... and maybe 100%+100% is in fact overdriving ... and maybe setting master to 50% might at least limit the peaking issues
[04:21] <Skapare> taroven: a full mixer app might be able to make all the settings ... dunno if they will "stick" though
[04:21] <gasull> Skapare: it works with tsocks :-)
[04:21] <john38> shcherbak, im using TL-WN722N usb adapter
[04:21] <Skapare> taroven: over on my slackware box I use alsamixer for that ... settings stay across users ... but go back to defaults on reboot
[04:22] <Skapare> gasull: \o/
[04:22] <gasull> Skapare: when you mentioned using "socks://" I realized what the problem was.  Thanks.
[04:22] <taroven> Skapare: Yeah, aware of using alsamixer for that. I've had a bit of success setting master down a bit (since pulse seems to go by PCM for the most part), but like you said it doesn't seem to stick across boots.
[04:22] <ermi> e ae pessoal do Ubuntu
[04:23] <shcherbak> john38: that helps, one method http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc
[04:23] <Skapare> gasull: well you have 2 solutions in case the other ever finds a problem it can solve :)
[04:23] <taroven> Skapare: Would absolutely love a sticky solution.
[04:23] <arrrghhh> is that spanish ermi ?
[04:23] <arrrghhh> !es | ermi
[04:23] <bazhang> !br | ermi
[04:23] <arrrghhh> brazilian portugese eh?
[04:23] <arrrghhh> lol
[04:23] <ermi> valeu vo la sim
[04:23] <gasull> Skapare: what's the other solution?
[04:24] <Skapare> taroven: my solution on slackware was yet another app that lets me hard set the audio levels from an init script ... haven't needed to do that in Ubuntu, though
[04:24] <mappum> how should i be installing zlib so when g++ is told to include zlib.h it will find it?
[04:25] <git__> what laptop is best compatible with Ubuntu 10.10 ?
[04:25] <git__> i want to have USB to work perfectly
[04:25] <taroven> Skapare: Hm. Good idea. I'll hit up Google for the commands. Thanks for the help.
[04:25] <arrrghhh> git__, usb is usually the smallest of problems.  wifi and video cards are probably #1 culprit of pain.
[04:26] <Skapare> mappum: normally that's done in the including source's #include directive
[04:27] <Skapare> mappum: where did zlib.h get installed at?
[04:27] <mappum> Skapare: i dont know, i used apt-get
[04:27] <git__> i'm in the market for a laptop
[04:27] <john38> shcherbak, could it be networking is disabled theres a check next to Enable networking
[04:27] <git__> and want one that works great with Ubuntu 10.10
[04:28] <Skapare> mappum: do command:  ls -l /usr/include/zlib.h
[04:28] <Skapare> if it's there, then in C/C++ program this should work:  #include <zlib.h>
[04:28] <mappum> it does not exist, I am assuming i installed the wrong package
[04:29] <Skapare> what was the package name?
[04:29] <mappum> well i installed zlibc but there are other names
[04:29] <mappum> xlib-bin?
[04:29] <mappum> *zlib
[04:30] <Skapare> mappum: install zlib-dev
[04:30] <mappum> it doesnt exist
[04:30] <shcherbak> john38: but we talk about wireless, you do need driver for this adapter - ath9k_htc....
[04:31] <Skapare> mappum: hold on, let me check packages
[04:31] <john38> shcherbak, i dont know what the heck im doing not sure what link to choose
[04:31] <bastidrazor> !find zlib.h
[04:31] <AngryKoala> greetings, when I try to mount an ntfs drive I get: fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy    What should I do?
[04:32] <Shoggoth> hi!
[04:32] <arrrghhh> AngryKoala, are you mounting it manually?  you can try to force it with -f.
[04:32] <arrrghhh> !hi | Shoggoth
[04:32] <arrrghhh> crap
[04:32] <arrrghhh> !hello | Shoggoth
[04:32] <arrrghhh> is it welcome?
[04:32] <arrrghhh> i'm just strikin out.
[04:32] <Skapare> mappum: try zlib1g-dev
[04:32] <Shoggoth> I seem to remember that it is somehow possible to compile and install software from source and then tell the dpkg system about it so it doesn't get overwritten
[04:33] <Shoggoth> how do you do this? can someone please remind me
[04:33] <Skapare> Shoggoth: build it into a .deb would seem reasonable to me
[04:33] <shcherbak> john38: but I have not find to many confimed test. Use this one -- http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc
[04:33] <bastidrazor> Shoggoth: use checkinstall instead of make install
[04:33] <mappum> Skapare: thank you, it worked. I am just wondering, where did you go to find that?
[04:33] <Shoggoth> Skapare: yes that's one way... but I remember doing it another way at somepoint
[04:33] <Skapare> Shoggoth: otherwise I keep stuff away from where dpkg would install it
[04:34] <Shoggoth> bastidrazor: that might be what I'm looking for...
[04:34] <bastidrazor> !checkinstall
[04:34] <Skapare> mappum: I have a collection of files I generated by having aptitude get a package list then generate info on every package ... a four hour long run
[04:34] <Shoggoth> ok
[04:35] <Shoggoth> so has anyone used it to build and install wine?
[04:35] <john38> shcherbak, can't find the link to download?
[04:35] <AngryKoala> arrrghhh, this is weird.  When I mount /dev/sda1 , which is my windows hdd, it mounts my root in /dev/sdb1 instead
[04:35] <Skapare> mappum: unfortunately, the script uses some C programs I wrote, too ... so it's not ready for public use
[04:35] <john38> shcherbak, ath9k_htc keeps redirecting me to another page
[04:36] <Skapare> mappum: eventually it will be
[04:36] <arrrghhh> AngryKoala, make sure you're using the right disk.  ls -lah /dev/disk/by-uuid
[04:36] <arrrghhh> the uuid of NTFS partitions is very obvious...
[04:36] <mappum> Skapare: maybe it should be turned into a public service rather than a public script
[04:36] <shcherbak> john38: you, most likely want to get ar9271.fw
[04:36] <arrrghhh> no dashes, usually all caps i believe.
[04:36] <Skapare> mappum: that's an idea, too
[04:36] <shcherbak> john38: what page?
[04:37] <AngryKoala> arrrghhh, yup, the only one Not in my /etc/fstab is /dev/sda1 which is different than all the rest
[04:37] <john38> shcherbak, http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc
[04:37] <shcherbak> to get right firmware -- http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/dwmw2/linux-firmware.git;a=tree
[04:37] <Shoggoth> bastidrazor: do I have to do a apt-get hold afterwards?
[04:37] <Skapare> mappum: not sure what the best WUI would be for it ... but I could just provide a tarball of all the data each week and let someone else do the web part
[04:37] <arrrghhh> AngryKoala, your fstab should mount by uuid... does it not?
[04:37] <shcherbak> for instructions -- http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc
[04:38] <arrrghhh> the /dev location can change...
[04:38] <Skapare> mappum: would be nice if ubuntu.com just did this ... that, afterall, have the master data
[04:38] <bastidrazor> Shoggoth: you can yes if the repositories hold a newerr version
[04:38] <AngryKoala> arrrghhh, correct, my fstab mounts by uuid, I'm just saying that the only uuid left is linked to /dev/sda1
[04:38] <shcherbak> john38: make sure to have coffe ready before you start
[04:38] <john38> shcherbak, ok
[04:38] <Skapare> mappum: and that data downloads via apt-get update
[04:38] <Shoggoth> bastidrazor: thanks... yes unfortunately my program will only work with wine 1.1.33 which is much older than what's in the repo
[04:39] <arrrghhh> AngryKoala, ic.  well that makes no sense then :P
[04:39] <Shoggoth> bastidrazor: I shall embark on this quest :) thanks again!
[04:39] <AngryKoala> arrrghhh, yes i know...which is why i need help lol
[04:39] <bastidrazor> Shoggoth: best of luck
[04:39] <mappum> Skapare: have you contacted them? that would be pretty helpful to the community
[04:39] <arrrghhh> AngryKoala, please pastebin the output of that ls command, and the mount command you are attempting.  also, your mount point exists?  where are you trying to mount it?
[04:40] <Skapare> mappum: as soon as I get lxc working right, I'll set up doing this for a few versions of ubuntu
[04:40] <bastidrazor> AngryKoala: as suggested earlier, you should be using UUID's in fstab instead of /dev/ .. it solves the issue
[04:40] <AngryKoala> bastidrazor, im using uuids
[04:40] <shcherbak> john38: on firmware page find ar9271.fw and download it (get also whole family of ar7010, just in case)
[04:40] <rww> Skapare, mappum: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ can search for which packages contain a given file.
[04:41] <rww> when it's up, anyway
[04:41] <mappum> rww: oh. nevermind then.
[04:41] <Skapare> rww: that's part of the solution, at least
[04:41] <Skapare> rww: it goes down a lot?  maybe they should run ... oh wait ... what distro was that?
[04:42] <rww> Skapare: Yes. I suspect it runs on the same 486 as wiki.ubuntu.com.
[04:42] <john38> shcherbak, its only 0 bytes blank
[04:42] <rww> and keyserver.ubuntu.com
[04:42] <rww> yay Canonical hosting :\
[04:43] <Skapare> rww: one problem is the package list has a lot of package names that were transitional aliases where another change took place, and the name is still there now dangling
[04:43] <AngryKoala> arrrghhh, http://pastebin.com/UQBZVKj9
[04:43] <john38> shcherbak, do i click on title, blob, history or raw
[04:43] <Skapare> rww: they show up as "State: not a real package" and the like
[04:43] <shcherbak> john38: rathe on file itself
[04:44] <rww> Skapare: Yes, virtual packages. packages.ubuntu.com ignores them
[04:44] <Skapare> rww: maybe they are running it on a netbook reached via wireless at 100m
[04:44] <rww> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=zlib.h&mode=exactfilename&suite=maverick&arch=any
[04:45] <john38> shcherbak, its a blank file 0 bytes
[04:45] <rww> so still requires familiarity with things, but it's a useful tool
[04:47] <john38> shcherbak, am i clicking ar9271.fw then adding stuff to text
[04:47] <john38> shcherbak, is that how this works