[07:24] <profanephobia> davy_jones: DSL all the way if you dont have the space
[07:24] <romgmz> im in gparted
[07:24] <Davy_Jones> Jack_Sparrow: there is no /var/cache :S
[07:24] <screencast> I am capturing a screencast right now :D
[07:24] <AntonSmari> anyone specialized in grub error 21
[07:24] <bulmer> I didnt realize this..a user3 logs out but it still shows the x-sessions are active via ps -aux.  How to ensure when a user is log-ging out the x-session is really killed?
[07:24] <stefg> zaxor0: try another port
[07:24] <profanephobia> antonsamri: one sec
[07:24] <Davy_Jones> Jack_Sparrow: oh, found it
[07:24] <romgmz> i can see a hdd /dev/sda
[07:24] <vikzx86> What's the difference between the Ubuntu CD and DVD??
[07:24] <romgmz> and /dev/hde
[07:24] <jport> where are the tango icons located ?
[07:25] <Davy_Jones> Jack_Sparrow: 2 items, totalling 4.0 KB
[07:25] <jrib> vikzx86: the dvd contains all of the main and restricted repositories
[07:25] <profanephobia> antonsmari: ok its seems to be a BIOS/device problem
[07:25] <romgmz> wich one is not the main one , i dont want to formant the wrong one
[07:25] <stefg> romgmz: sudo fdisk -l
[07:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Davy_Jones: You already cleaned it.. I always burn it to a cd so I dont need to download it again..
[07:25] <AntonSmari> hmm, it cant be the device
[07:26] <profanephobia> antonsamri: do you have any external devices hooked up
[07:26] <AntonSmari> you think it might be the BIOS}
[07:26] <Davy_Jones> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, i did that too.. it helps later if you don't have a good internet connection
[07:26] <profanephobia> im reading bios problem for that error
[07:26] <vikzx86> jrib, Will it have nVidia Drivers too??
[07:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Davy_Jones: Makes multiple installs much faster
[07:26] <jrib> vikzx86: I believe so
[07:26] <johnny5> k, just installed feisty on my dell 9200. shouldn't i need to install restricted nvidia drivers or something?
[07:26] <AntonSmari> well I got my ipod dock but no ipod in it, should I remove all usb and try booting up again?
[07:27] <profanephobia> yeah try that
[07:27] <Davy_Jones> johnny5: depending on your graphics card, you probably need
[07:27] <umop-apisdn> Davy_Jones: apt-get autoclean
[07:27] <AntonSmari> ok il boot now and then contact you again, thanks alot guys, youve been real help :)
[07:27] <profanephobia> np
[07:27] <facecoos> I have a Ubuntu server running and it is showing a "server load" of 0,25... now is this much or not? what is max? 1 or 100?
[07:27] <Hibame> profanephobia and coopster: avtive@killdisk didnt even see the hard drive
[07:27] <Davy_Jones> umop-apisdn: what's it do?
[07:27] <johnny5> i tried running the restricted driver manager, but it says my hardware doesn't require restricted drivers
[07:27] <umop-apisdn> Davy_Jones: automagically cleans up old archives in your apt stuff
[07:27] <zaxor0> I have a usb hard drive tat did mount before on ubuntu but now it doesnt, but it does on another computer, how can I fix this? trying a different port does not work.
[07:28] <profanephobia> Hibame: ok im almost out of ideas ... do you have another computer you can hook those up to
[07:28] <romgmz> needs to be primary partition or extended
[07:28] <umop-apisdn>  clean - Erase downloaded archive files
[07:28] <umop-apisdn>    autoclean - Erase old downloaded archive files
[07:28] <profanephobia> primary
[07:28] <Hibame> profanephobia: I tried that and when I hooked it up windows never regonsied the drives
[07:29] <profanephobia> Hibame: this will sound stupid but try checking the jumpers
[07:29] <aruiz_> does anyone have had problems with dns resolution with gutsy_
[07:29] <aruiz_> ?
[07:29] <raf256> hello, is it possible to use sound card in linux? I can spend up to 80$ on needed hard/soft ware
[07:29] <Hibame> profanephobia: I did, they are set right
[07:29] <facecoos> ??? is a load of 0.25 much or not?
[07:29] <umop-apisdn> raf256: simple answer: yes. complex answer: maybe.
[07:29] <raf256> umop-apisdn: how to
[07:29] <eubey> whats the best light weight window manager?
[07:30] <johnny5> Davy_Jones: when i run restricted driver manager, it says i don't have any hardware that requires restricted drivers, but i'm running an nvidia card?
[07:30] <jetscreamer> raf256: unless that's not your nick, i know you know better
[07:30] <umop-apisdn> raf256: it seems to work fine for me right out of the box, except i only have 2 sound channels (left/right) instead of my 5.1 surround
[07:30] <zaxor0> does chmod -v 666 /media/harddrive lock me out of my usb hard drive? it wont mount anymore
[07:30] <raf256> jetscreamer: I found out that this is hardly possible
[07:30] <raf256> jetscreamer: and I wonder why
[07:30] <Davy_Jones> johnny5: i don't know of an other solution but to download the drivers file from nvidia and recompile the kernel
[07:30] <profanephobia> Hibame: long shot... ok  im not sure what else to try ,ill browse google
[07:31] <umop-apisdn> johnny5: try enabling desktop effects, it'll go get the nvidia driver
[07:31] <raf256> I require simple 2 channel sound, output and input (mic)
[07:31] <johnny5> i get a white screen when i enable desktop effects
[07:31] <profanephobia> zaxor0: no its something else
[07:31] <umop-apisdn> johnny5: for how long?
[07:31] <profanephobia> zaxor0: is the device connected during boot
[07:31] <johnny5> until i hit esc
[07:31] <jetscreamer> yes zaxor0
[07:31] <jetscreamer> the directory need to be executable
[07:32] <Davy_Jones> yeah.. the white screen is an effect :P jk
[07:32] <profanephobia> but it would still mount
[07:32] <profanephobia> should anyways
[07:32] <umop-apisdn> johnny5: hmm... i dunno, guy... it worked fine for me right outta the box
[07:32] <jetscreamer> zaxor0: if directories are not executable, 7, you can't cd to them
[07:32] <romgmz> i allready format the disk , where i can see it
[07:32] <raf256> so.. how to get sound (2 channel output and input/mic working on linux)?
[07:32] <jetscreamer> make that not executable, not 7
[07:32] <umop-apisdn> johnny5: to give you an idea of a direction to go in, you should make sure that your card is being detected properly
[07:32] <profanephobia> romgmz: ok so now you should be able to use it for storage
[07:33] <romgmz> but i cant see it
[07:33] <malocite> how do you backup your present kernel
[07:33] <zaxor0> I have a usb hard drive tat did mount before on ubuntu but now it doesnt, but it does on another computer, how can I fix this? trying a different port does not work.
[07:33] <umop-apisdn> raf256: open a browser, go to google.com, type in "ubuntu sound howto" and pick a link :)
[07:33] <Davy_Jones> i think i'm gonna uninstall totem.. it sucks anyways.. mplayer for the win
[07:33] <raf256> umop-apisdn: sound didnt worked. I supposed I need other hardware card. Which one?
[07:33] <profanephobia> davy_jones: VLC all the way : )
[07:33] <umop-apisdn> raf256: what kind of card do you have now?
[07:34] <zaxor0> oh i didnt see those responses
[07:34] <umop-apisdn> raf256: did you plug your speakers in?
[07:34] <romgmz> in home?
[07:34] <Davy_Jones> profanephobia: i prefer mplayer for video, xmms for sound
[07:34] <Davy_Jones> profanephobia: VLC is too GUI
[07:34] <profanephobia> lol
[07:34] <raf256> umop-apisdn: yes it was working on windows
[07:34] <Davy_Jones> lol
[07:34] <zaxor0> profanephobia, is it possible the device is locked out
[07:34] <WAKAMAN> Helloz
[07:34] <romgmz>  i just can see file system
[07:34] <raf256> umop-apisdn: dont remember what card
[07:34] <umop-apisdn> raf256: have you tried clicking on the little speaker icon towards the right side of the top panel?
[07:34] <raf256> which cheap card is bast for linux?
[07:34] <romgmz> and floppy drive
[07:34] <umop-apisdn> raf256: is your sound card onboard, or a separate card?
[07:35] <d4rkmonkey> Hey, I'm trying to copy my whole music directory onto an iPod (I'm just dumping it on how its organized because I run rockbox) and whenever it comes across a song with a "?" in it, it gives me an error. How can I get around this without stripping out all the question marks?
[07:35] <profanephobia> zaxor0: i have messed up securities on devices before but never had that cause it not to mount...unusable but it mounted
[07:35] <johnny5> ok, the white screen goes away on it's own if i leave it long enough, but nothing looks that great
[07:35] <umop-apisdn> d4rkmonkey: you can't. remove the quesiotn marks.
[07:35] <vvafmmartinds> ola
[07:35] <jetscreamer> zaxor0: you did see me tell you 666 won't let you cd to the dir right
[07:35] <d4rkmonkey> umop-apisdn, would rsync get around this? Why can't it copy files with question marks in it?
[07:35] <linux_user400354> is it possible to see who the recipient is of a file encrypted with gpg but not have the secret key?
[07:35] <zaxor0> jetscreamer what should I do, it wont even mount
[07:36] <umop-apisdn> d4rkmonkey: because ? and * are wildcard indicators... they're illegal in file names.
[07:36] <d4rkmonkey> umop-apisdn,  o_O stupid sound-juicer just put ? in it.
[07:36] <facecoos> heyeverybody, what is the max load on a machine? 1?
[07:36] <jetscreamer> zaxor0: sudo mount -t auto /what /where ?
[07:36] <d4rkmonkey> !rsync
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rsync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <d4rkmonkey> o_O
[07:37] <d4rkmonkey> guess I'll just look in man pages I'm wonderin what difference that would make
[07:37] <facecoos> nevermind
[07:37] <profanephobia> zaxor0: just to be sure will it mount on another comp
[07:37] <linux_user400354> is it possible to see who the recipient is of a file encrypted with gpg but not have the secret key?
[07:38] <Twofclubs> hi how do i obtain and install gparted?
[07:38] <zaxor0> profanephobia it does mount on another computer
[07:38] <royel> linux_user400354: your question barely makes sense
[07:38] <coopster> linux_user400354, no.
[07:38] <Davy_Jones> did you know this.. there is a 'dive into python' book and it's packaged in synaptic.. i wouldn't know it even existed
[07:38] <profanephobia> zaxor0: ok maybe try checking your fstab file and look for it
[07:38] <jetscreamer> zaxor0: what is the mount command you are using
[07:38] <romgmz> hd1 or sda?
[07:39] <AntonSmari> hey all...
[07:39] <s|k> is there a way to get information about when a file was created, maybe via ls or something?
[07:39] <d4rkmonkey> Hi!
[07:39] <jetscreamer> Twofclubs: apt-cache search parted
[07:39] <cqg> ola
[07:39] <zaxor0> profanephobia, how do i do that?
[07:39] <Twofclubs> is sudo get-apt install gparted the right command?
[07:39] <jetscreamer> Twofclubs: then install it
[07:39] <jetscreamer> sure
[07:39] <profanephobia> twoofclubs: sudo apt-get install gparted
[07:39] <romgmz> sorry i dont want to bother
[07:39] <zaxor0> jetscreamer, i am clicking the icona nd clicking mount
[07:39] <romgmz> but im lost
[07:39] <Twofclubs> thank you :)
[07:39] <Twofclubs> appreciate the help guys
[07:39] <profanephobia> welcome
[07:40] <jrib> s|k: no, ext3 doesn't store that information
[07:40] <AntonSmari> I did as you told (unplugged the ipod dock usb) and it still gave me grub error 21
[07:40] <raf256> umop-apisdn: on board afair.. ok will check more
[07:40] <s|k> jrib: ah :(
[07:40] <s|k> thanks
[07:40] <AntonSmari> might be the BIOS}
[07:40] <AntonSmari> ?
[07:40] <jrib> s|k: you can get access time, modification time, and change time though
[07:40] <profanephobia> romgmz: reboot just to be sure
[07:40] <bense> i feel silly, i selected my packages to intall in synaptic, but i don't know how to initiate the install?
[07:40] <bense> apply is greyed out
[07:40] <profanephobia> antonsmari: ok one sec well get this figured out
[07:40] <romgmz> ok
[07:41] <s|k> jrib: yeah I want the created time, I'm just trying to figure out when I created my irc log, so I can figure out how fast it grows (22mb since when I created it)
[07:41] <jetscreamer> zaxor0: i don't know how that automount stuff works. you could try it n an xterm perhaps. mount -t auto /dev/whatever /mnt perhaps
[07:41] <mzaza> http://pastebin.be/4137 I get these errors while trying to upgrade my application list
[07:41] <AntonSmari> think I should change boot managers or what else is possible to fix this ?
[07:41] <jetscreamer> zaxor0: you might check and see if the mount point is actually there
[07:41] <jetscreamer> under /media
[07:41] <royel> s|k: the log itself does not contain any date stamps?
[07:41] <s|k> oh.
[07:41] <profanephobia> antonsmari: i think we can fix this
[07:41] <GrooveStix> hey folks! where can I find libboost-date-time1.34.0 ???
[07:41] <jetscreamer> AntonSmari: examine /boot/grub/device.map perhaps
[07:41] <s|k> that's true, but it's sad that creation date is not stored
[07:42] <s|k> thanks royel
[07:42] <profanephobia> antonsmari: do you have a live cd
[07:42] <GrooveStix> it's a dependency for Deluge
[07:42] <mzaza> http://pastebin.be/4137 I get these errors while trying to upgrade my application list any ideas?
[07:42] <AntonSmari> im booting on the live cd at the moment
[07:42] <AntonSmari> using gaim there...
[07:42] <profanephobia> oh ok
[07:42] <jetscreamer> you'll probably have to wait a bit, GrooveStix ... that one was funny coming into repos
[07:42] <jetscreamer> but i forget
[07:42] <AntonSmari> device.map only lists (hd0)	/dev/sda
[07:43] <AntonSmari> which should be ok
[07:43] <jetscreamer> ah
[07:43] <GrooveStix> what's going on?
[07:43] <AntonSmari> only 1 sata disk plugged in at the moment :/
[07:43] <jetscreamer> AntonSmari: are you trying to do grub-install from a livecd to fix your hd?
[07:43] <profanephobia> antonsmari: lets just redo the mbr
[07:44] <profanephobia> antonsmari: do this  grub-install /dev/hda
[07:44] <Davy_Jones> why would one need the perl packages?
[07:44] <johnny5> i don't even know how to check if my video card is being detected?
[07:44] <jetscreamer> some perl is required
[07:44] <Davy_Jones> are they needed to compile stuff?
[07:44] <jetscreamer> not sure why i just know some is
[07:44] <profanephobia> davy_jones: if the app uses perl then it needs the libraries
[07:45] <Davy_Jones> ok, perl stays
[07:45] <CheshireViking> s|k, my #ubuntu file is about 4Mb since i started l logging about 4 weeks ago, it logs about 8 hrs a day, not sure if that helps
[07:45] <romgmz> nothing  i still cant see hdd
[07:45] <bommelom> how can I connect to a wpa2-psk wireless ap with ubuntu?
[07:45] <AntonSmari> root@ubuntu:~# grub-install /dev/hda
[07:45] <AntonSmari> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[07:45] <AntonSmari> /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.
[07:45] <GrooveStix> wasn't there a way to manually download libraries from the Ubuntu website ?
[07:45] <romgmz> sorry about my english
[07:45] <profanephobia> iss your hdd hda or hd0
[07:45] <romgmz> ups?
[07:46] <mzaza> http://pastebin.be/4137 I get these errors while trying to upgrade my application list any ideas?
[07:46] <romgmz> i dont know
[07:46] <AntonSmari> oops its sda sorry will try again
[07:46] <profanephobia> ok
[07:46] <superjedi_> I cant put anything in the file-system because it belongs to root.  How can i put in files
[07:46] <profanephobia> groovestix: most libraries you would need are in the repos
[07:46] <royel> superjedi_: use sudo
[07:46] <Davy_Jones> superjedi_: change owner
[07:46] <profanephobia> just sudo apt-get them
[07:47] <jrib> superjedi_: where do you want to put files?
[07:47] <johnny5> How can i check if my graphics card is being properly detected by ubuntu
[07:47] <superjedi_> It wont let me becuase it belongs to root.  But im the only user
[07:47] <umop-apisdn> raf256: onboard sound is usually ac97, these days... and should be auto-detected by ubuntu upon install.
[07:47] <GrooveStix> profanephobia: libboost-date-time1.34.0 is missing
[07:47] <umop-apisdn> raf256: i would suspect you have some sort of hardware issue.
[07:47] <profanephobia> superjedi: move them in terminal using su
[07:47] <superjedi_> I want to put the files in /usr/share
[07:47] <Enselic> !root | superjedi
[07:47] <ubotu> superjedi: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:47] <stuart-> hm, wine won't let me run enverwinter nights, and also says i don't have open gl
[07:47] <stuart-> how'd i install opengl in ubuntu?
[07:48] <m1r> what card stuart- ?
[07:48] <ninix> hi, anyone know how solved this error (no 3d accel) --> ibGL error: XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable failed ........ (after the command LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose fglrxinfo)
[07:48] <stuart-> mlr, geforce2 mx400
[07:48] <jrib> superjedi_: why would you want to do that?  That's for the package manager to take care of
[07:48] <royel> stuart-: seems to me that NWN had a linux client, did you first check that option?
[07:48] <Anlar> ninix: DRI not enabled?
[07:48] <m1r> stuart- ; try google for envy
[07:48] <stuart-> royel, already own the windows version -_-
[07:49] <Injen> superjedi: do you have something in your /home folder? If you can't place anything in your home folder, you misconfigured something.
[07:49] <superjedi> I need to install a plugin
[07:49] <stuart-> mlr, kay thanks
[07:49] <visik7> hi, is there an application that change the mouse behaviour depending on which application window has the focus ?
[07:49] <jrib> superjedi: what plugin?
[07:49] <ninix> Anlar, im reading since 1 hour and all that i try don't enable it.
[07:49] <superjedi> for amsn
[07:49] <profanephobia> groovestix: try sudo apt-get install libboost-date-time1.33.1
[07:49] <m1r> ninix , try google envy
[07:49] <stuart-> mlr, do i still need envy if i already have nvidia drivers running
[07:49] <jrib> superjedi: use ~/.amsn/plugins  where ~ means /home/USERNAME
[07:50] <royel> stuart-: me too, but I was able to download the small linux client from the website.
[07:50] <ninix> m1r: all is installed
[07:50] <johnny5> come on guys. i'm new to ubunbtu and linux in general. i need to know if my graphics card is not being picked up properly.
[07:50] <osxdude|lap> I have nvidia-settings, but no settings are appearing. How do I fix this?
[07:50] <AntonSmari> root@ubuntu:~# grub-install /dev/hda
[07:50] <AntonSmari> /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.
[07:50] <AntonSmari> root@ubuntu:~# grub-install /dev/sda
[07:50] <AntonSmari> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[07:50] <jrib> visik7: maybe imwheel depending on what you want exactly
[07:51] <AntonSmari> not working :(
[07:51] <Sembiance> I have took a drive that has no partitions and did:  "dd if=/dev/sde of=my.dmg"   how can I expose this as a device to other programs?  Is there some sort of way in linux to treat a file as a disk and have it mapped in /dev/???
[07:51] <m1r> stuart- posibly not good install if not runing, same for ninix
[07:51] <Some_Person> !grub
[07:51] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:51] <m1r> !pastebin > antonsmari
[07:51] <Injen> johnny: symptoms?
[07:51] <ninix> m1r: it was working before..... i tryed beryl etc... and not no more 3d accel (im not currently under beryl)
[07:51] <ninix> (xgl)
[07:52] <stefg> Sembiance: mount -o loop filesystem.img /mountpoint
[07:52] <AntonSmari> any suggestions?
[07:52] <johnny5> Injen: Can't enable desktop effects and can't change my resolution to my screens proper one.
[07:52] <superjedi_> can I get it to open in the file explorer.  or if it can't how do i put the files in
[07:52] <johnny5> Injen: Also can't use restricted drivers to install the nvidia stuff
[07:52] <ianweller> i'm using ubuntu feisty and i'm not able to rip cds to mp3. i can play mp3s just fine, but soundjuicer won't rip them.
[07:52] <visik7> jrib: for example I've some extra buttons on my mouse that change my desktop workspace  but if  firefox has the focus should be usefull to use them as back / forward buttons
[07:53] <jrib> superjedi_: sure, press ctrl-l in nautilus (the file explorer for GNOME) and then enter:  ~/.amsn/plugins   .  Also, try to prefix your messages with the name of the person you are addressing
[07:53] <Sembiance> stefg: I tried that :)  hrm...
[07:53] <stuart-> mlr, means it's a good download if nvidia is already working?
[07:53] <jrib> visik7: yeah, imwheel does exactly that
[07:53] <profanephobia> antonsmari: wow today has sucked for hdd related problems
[07:53] <mzaza> http://pastebin.be/4137 I get these errors while trying to upgrade my application list any ideas?
[07:53] <superjedi_> jrib: ok
[07:53] <romgmz> no geting mad
[07:53] <romgmz> jajaja
[07:54] <TFrog> has anyone loaded up the 8.39.4 ATI drivers yet?
[07:54] <ianweller> i've already installed gstreamer-plugins-ugly but i can't use sound-juicer to rip to mp3. help?
[07:54] <stefg> Sembiance: you get a /dev/loop<n> entry, but usually you don't have to deal with that
[07:54] <romgmz> no hdd on my desktop
[07:54] <profanephobia> mzaza: delete those repos from your source list
[07:54] <Sembiance> stefg: well there isn't anything mountable, but I want to use truecrypt to access it's data
[07:54] <mzaza> profanephobia: k
[07:55] <AntonSmari> is pm banned on this server?
[07:55] <stefg> Sembiance: man losetup
[07:55] <Pici> AntonSmari: You need to !register first
[07:55] <profanephobia> antonsmari: for non regestered users
[07:55] <profanephobia> !register
[07:55] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:55] <profanephobia> whammy
[07:56] <profanephobia> silence
[07:57] <romgmz> healpppppppppp me
[07:57] <Namrac> join #conky
[07:57] <profanephobia> romgmz: go in to your /media folder all list whats in there
[07:57] <AntonSmari> ok im registered
[07:57] <romgmz> nothing
[07:58] <profanephobia> nothing at all?
[07:58] <osxdude|lap> Hello, I am trying to get a TV Out to work as a clone. Right now I need nvidia-settings, but no settings appear to configure the screens.
[07:58] <romgmz> aha
[07:58] <osxdude|lap> Can enyone help me? PLS>
[07:58] <romgmz> media folder in home
[07:58] <profanephobia> no
[07:58] <profanephobia> in/
[07:58] <Templar> Hi there can anyone tell me if there is a program for linux that is the same as acrobat pro, like the gimp is to photoshop
[07:58] <johnny5> Injen: any ideas?
[07:59] <superjedi_> jrib:I got them in the folder but the plugin not reconized
[07:59] <profanephobia> templar: try PDFEdit
[07:59] <Templar> cheers
[07:59] <profanephobia> np
[07:59] <Echoside> Hello. I need a decent data burning program for Kubuntu. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
[07:59] <Templar> under synaptic
[07:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Echoside: k3b
[07:59] <profanephobia> might be in there i cant remember
[08:00] <romgmz> sorry this is very dificult to me, i dont get it
[08:00] <dxdt> Echoside: k3b for the win
[08:00] <Dan> hi
[08:00] <TFrog> i guess no one has loaded up the latest ATI drivers :(
[08:00] <profanephobia> romgmz: go to computer
[08:00] <profanephobia> romgmz: then go to filesystem
[08:00] <Twofclubs> Hi i was wondering how to update my video card driver, i have never done this before with ubuntu, any help would be appreciate
[08:00] <romgmz> ok i can see media folder inside system
[08:00] <romgmz> !!
[08:00] <profanephobia> ok whats in there
[08:01] <Echoside> Thanks everyone
[08:01] <romgmz> cdrom, cdrom0, floppy, floppy0
[08:01] <orbisvicis> !find xvnc4server
[08:01] <down__> I get server exhausted errors in bitchx, on my feisty VM, same issue with konversation.  Was working yesterday, on the windows side, mirc runs great.  any ideas?
[08:01] <ubotu> Package/file xvnc4server does not exist in feisty
[08:02] <orbisvicis> was xvnc4server removed ?
[08:02] <foey> anyone know where I can bind my spare mouse button in firefox to act as 'back'
[08:02] <profanephobia> romgmz: and do you in fact have two cdroms and two floppies
[08:02] <umop-apisdn> orbisvicis: i haven't a clue. if you get any info on vnc under ubuntu, please let me know :)
[08:02] <romgmz> nope
[08:02] <ninix> !paste
[08:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:02] <orbisvicis> umop-apisdn, ; )
[08:02] <orbisvicis> !vnc
[08:02] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[08:02] <orbisvicis> !freenx
[08:03] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[08:03] <romgmz> a have : floppy, cdrom, hdd 1, hdd 2
[08:03] <AntonSmari> !grub
[08:03] <profanephobia> romgmz: then something definetly isnt right
[08:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:03] <ninix> anyone can check my xorg.conf to see if i disable DRI ? :| http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31438/
[08:03] <umop-apisdn> orbisvicis: yeah, but it won't connect to realvnc4
[08:03] <romgmz> :'(
[08:04] <AntonSmari> could anyone help me with my error 21 in grub, I have tried almost anything I found on google concerning this
[08:04] <orbisvicis> umop-apisdn, oh. and i think its limited to 4 connections too ; (
[08:04] <romgmz> one of each (cdrom and floppy) are like a shortcuts
[08:04] <rocky> can someone recommend a good supported 802.11n adapter for ubuntu ?
[08:04] <profanephobia> romgmz: do this then paste it to me in a pm sudo fdisk -l
[08:04] <orbisvicis> ninix, to disable dri remove section dri from modules and get rid of mode 0666
[08:04] <skyfalcon866> how many gigabytes should i make my /
[08:04] <foey> anyone know where I can bind my spare mouse button in firefox to act as 'back'
[08:04] <mzanfardino> while attempting to resolve an issue with an Adaptec 2420 RAID controller I've recently modified my kernel image to an unstable state.  I can boot to the pervious image.  How can I recreate the latest image as was done for me when I ran apt-get upgrade? (NOTE: installed ubuntu 6.10 from alternate CD kernel 2.6.17-10 and apt-get upgraded to 2.6.17-12)
[08:04] <jrib> !mouse > foey (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:04] <umop-apisdn> orbisvicis: on the other hand, using the realvnc enterprise server for windows at the office allows me to use firefox (once i give it some java) to connect
[08:05] <profanephobia> antonsmari: in gparted how big is your boot partition
[08:05] <Tonren> Hey all.  Sup?
[08:05] <foey> jrib : ok, ty
[08:05] <jrib> foey: make it emit alt-<left arrow>
[08:05] <loufoque> hello, I just moved to gutsy and am experiencing a few issues
[08:05] <Some_Person> how do i login as root (i want to empty the root trash)
[08:05] <jrib> !root > Some_Person (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:05] <Davy_Jones> i'll give you a little secret.. DON'T use gparted or qtparted.. they don't work.. use fdisk
[08:05] <romgmz> Disk /dev/sda: 60.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>0 bytes
[08:05] <loufoque> one of my hard disks is constantly making noise
[08:05] <romgmz> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7296 cylinders
[08:05] <romgmz> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[08:05] <romgmz>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[08:05] <romgmz> /dev/sda1   *           1        6992    56163208+  83  Linux
[08:05] <romgmz> /dev/sda2            6993        7296     2441880    5  Extended
[08:05] <romgmz> /dev/sda5            6993        7296     2441848+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[08:05] <romgmz> Disk /dev/hde: 60.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>0 bytes
[08:05] <skyfalcon866> loufoque: gutsy is in alpha so there will be major bugs
[08:05] <romgmz> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7296 cylinders
[08:05] <web> hi. in feisty, the title of my terminal window does not change, when i change the user. any ideas?
[08:05] <romgmz> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[08:05] <jrib> loufoque: #ubuntu+1 for help with gutsy
[08:05] <jrib> !paste | romgmz
[08:05] <Tonren> Davy_Jones: I usually have a good time with gparted.  Is it dangerous?
[08:05] <foey> jrib : Got it, great help. ty
[08:05] <bz0b> is it possible not to have a password at all like the live cd
[08:05] <ubotu> romgmz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:06] <Some_Person> i want to empty the root's trash
[08:06] <Some_Person> so i need to login as root
[08:06] <Davy_Jones> Tonren: i don't whether it's dangerous or not cuz it never worked for me
[08:06] <Some_Person> i did it once on 5.10
[08:06] <jrib> Some_Person: so delete /root/.Trash
[08:06] <Some_Person> oh
[08:06] <Some_Person> thats simple
[08:06] <Davy_Jones> Tonren: and so many people face a lot of unsolvable problems here
[08:06] <romgmz> ok sorry
[08:06] <AntonSmari> profanephobia: 66.38gb
[08:06] <mzanfardino> anyone know how to rebuilt a kernel image?
[08:06] <wick2o> hello, anyone run hylafax? i have FaxDispatch set to FILETYPE=pdf and<EMAIL_ADDRESS>emails work and i get a file with a pdf attached, but the pdf is busted
[08:07] <wick2o> it empty or zero or compressed wrong
[08:07] <wick2o> i cant seem to find any docs saying im missingany osftware
[08:07] <wick2o> receiving the faxs works perfect
[08:07] <orbisvicis> !wvnc
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wvnc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <umop-apisdn> !xvnc
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xvnc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <mzanfardino> !mkinitrd
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mkinitrd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <profanephobia> antonsmari: your boot paritition is that big?
[08:07] <umop-apisdn> hmmph
[08:07] <orbisvicis> !xwnc
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xwnc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <orbisvicis> !info xwnc
[08:08] <bz0b> is it possible to disable a password like in the livecd
[08:08] <ubotu> xwnc: Mix of Xvnc and XDarwin with improved protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.3-9 (feisty), package size 433 kB, installed size 892 kB
[08:08] <AntonSmari> I think so, that is my root partition, right}
[08:08] <jrib> !fishing | orbisvicis
[08:08] <ubotu> orbisvicis: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:08] <profanephobia> antonsmari: nv got lost
[08:08] <AntonSmari> /
[08:08] <orbisvicis> mzanfardino, mkinitcpio
[08:08] <bee2643> bzob: you can boot a live cd, chroot to your installation on the drive, and then passwd user
[08:08] <Some_Person> How do I make an exact copy of a user?
[08:08] <orbisvicis> jrib, ; )
[08:08] <lkukacc> re
[08:08] <bz0b> bee2643 what do you mean
[08:08] <AntonSmari> Flags: boot at that partition
[08:09] <bee2643> boot the live cd
[08:09] <bee2643> fdisk -l to find out where your installation is
[08:09] <bee2643> or the drive
[08:09] <romgmz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31439/
[08:09] <bee2643> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubuntu
[08:09] <bee2643> chroot /mnt/ubuntu
[08:09] <bee2643> passwd user
[08:09] <bee2643> hit enter twice
[08:09] <bee2643> no password
[08:10] <bee2643> is that what you wanted?
[08:10] <jrib> !enter | bee2643
[08:10] <bz0b> oh nice thanks bee
[08:10] <ubotu> bee2643: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:10] <profanephobia> antonsmari: this is exactly what error 21 is : Selected disk does not exist
[08:10] <profanephobia>     This error is returned if the device part of a device- or full file name
[08:10] <profanephobia> refers to a disk or BIOS device that is not present or not recognized by the
[08:10] <profanephobia> BIOS in the system.
[08:10] <blackhat> Okay well I have a CDROM problem.. my CDROM drive doesn't work in ubuntu but works in Windows/Bios... heres a link to the thread & dmesg, etc...   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3082104#post3082104, anyone have any thoughts?
[08:10] <Some_Person> to get no password use "sudo passwd user -d"
[08:10] <Some_Person> How do I make an exact copy of a user?
[08:10] <bee2643> jrib, im not using enter as punctuation, im using enter to denote different commands.
[08:10] <web> hi. when i change the user in a terminal, the title of the terminal does not change. any ideas?
[08:10] <AntonSmari> yes that is what I have been told but I do not understand how it can not be detected
[08:11] <web> for example, when i change from user@box to root@box, the title of the terminal still shows user@box
[08:11] <jrib> !away > NiceDay (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:11] <Some_Person> How do I make an exact copy of a user?
[08:11] <osxdude|lap> !away | NiceDay
[08:11] <NiceDay> sorry. my IRC-client changes my nick automaticaly
[08:11] <ubotu> NiceDay: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[08:11] <egyptdude> Some_Person: copy the home folder
[08:11] <orbisvicis> anyone have opinion on xwnc ?
[08:11] <jrib> Some_Person: copy his HOME and make sure the stuff in /etc/passwd and /etc/group match up I suppose
[08:12] <profanephobia> antonsmari: i know it doesnt make much sense ...
[08:12] <AntonSmari> profanephobia: should I edit my BIOS or something, I have no idea what I should do, this also crashed my Vista install when I first tried to dual boot
[08:12] <malocite> does ubuntu use xfree86 or x.org?
[08:12] <profanephobia> antonsmari: what type of hdd is it
[08:12] <egyptdude> http://pastebin.be/4138 Any help?
[08:12] <bz0b> bee2643: can i just go into terminal sudo su -; passwd user; enter twice?
[08:13] <NiceDay> Mea Culpa - I wasn't aware of all this. I won't bother you any more. I didn't hear any noise and didn't see any annoying scrolling. now using / quit instead of / away
[08:13] <Anlar> AntonSmari: enable legacy ide support in bios ?
[08:13] <orbisvicis> didnt xorg incorporate xfree86 ?
[08:13] <orbisvicis> not sure though
[08:13] <AntonSmari> proganephobia: Western Digital Serial ATA Raptor
[08:13] <Anlar> orbisvicis: no, it is a fork
[08:13] <egyptdude> why do i get this error http://pastebin.be/4138???
[08:13] <jrib> bz0b: you don't need to be root to change your own password
[08:13] <AntonSmari> profanephobia: *
[08:13] <bee2643> bz0b, yes
[08:13] <bz0b> jrib: if you want to leave it blank
[08:13] <profanephobia> antonsmari: ok go in to terminal and start grub
[08:13] <bz0b> bee2643 ok
[08:13] <web> would you people agree, that ubuntu 7 is more buggy then earlier versions?
[08:14] <Twofclubs> im trying to install updated ati drivers for my video card...i get the following error, could anyone please assist me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31441/
[08:14] <Jack_Sparrow> blackhat: Question, have you ever used scripts to install things?  Automatix or Envy....?
[08:14] <mzanfardino> orbisvicis: mkinitcpio does not appeared to be installed and when I apt-cache search mkinit I see three packages: bootcd-mkinitramfs multipath-tools-initramfs yaird, however once installed I still do not have mkinitcpio.  I've also search google for ubuntu and mkinitcpio but haven't found much useful information.  Can you share a link with me to some resource?
[08:14] <AntonSmari> Anlar: dont think IDE will affect my sata disk or will it?
[08:14] <Anlar> web: no?
[08:14] <blackhat> Jack_Sparrow, nope.
[08:14] <AntonSmari> profanephobia: ok im in the grub shell
[08:14] <bz0b> jrib: its because i share this computer with all my roomates at university
[08:14] <coastermaster> My Dell Inspiron 6000 keeps hanging when I try to suspend.  The system hangs with a blank screen and my only choice is to hold down the power button and do a hard-boot.  I've tried everything on Google to no avail.  I found this thread in the forums and tried it, but it didn't work (instead it hung at a login screen)
[08:14] <Anlar> AntonSmari: it should force all your controllers to be seen as traditional pata ide... which might help grub. it doesn't have any performance or other real impact on your system
[08:14] <coastermaster> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=471855&highlight=dell+suspend
[08:14] <Jack_Sparrow> blackhat: What all have you added since the install?  or if a long list, what were the last few?
[08:15] <AntonSmari> Anlar: ok I will try that, thanks :)
[08:15] <web> anlar: for example, when in the terminal i change from user@box to root@box, the title of the terminal-title still shows user@box
[08:15] <profanephobia> ok now try this replacing the hdd name with yours: install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)16+19 p /boot/grub/stage2
[08:15] <profanephobia> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:15] <Jack_Sparrow> blackhat: How about posting your fstab
[08:15] <blackhat> Jack_Sparrow, you mean like programs?
[08:15] <blackhat> Okay I'll post my fstab.. sec.
[08:15] <orbisvicis> mzanfardino, http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mkinitcpio. I just use it on arch. you can use the alternate packages listed if ubuntu doesnt have it
[08:15] <crdlb> Twofclubs, uname -r is not your username
[08:15] <Jack_Sparrow> blackhat: Yes, programs or drivers that were not in the repos
[08:15] <nznz> hi, how do i run a ssh server so other people can connect to my pc?
[08:15] <profanephobia> openshh
[08:16] <dyrne> !ssh | nznz
[08:16] <ubotu> nznz: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[08:16] <Anlar> web: changes for me I think.. never noticed anything wrong. wouldn't matter even if didn't though
[08:16] <egyptdude> http://pastebin.be/4138 why do i get this error?
[08:16] <Twofclubs> oh ok, my mistake
[08:16] <umop-apisdn> ok, stupid question. i understand you can connect to an x server from an external machine, yes?
[08:16] <egyptdude> I don't believe that in this room no one can help
[08:16] <nznz> thanks
[08:16] <dyrne> nznz: basically sudo apt-get install openssh-server  then if you are behind a router forward port 22 to your ubuntu comp
[08:16] <blackhat> Jack_Sparrow, I've installed wine, and xchat, etc, just the basics... and gtkpod..
[08:16] <crdlb> Twofclubs, just put $(uname -r)  and the shell will evaluate it for you
[08:16] <Twofclubs> wonderful, thank you sir
[08:17] <blackhat> Jack_Sparrow, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31442/  is my fstab.
[08:17] <web> anlar: well, when you work on different servers, its really dangerous if the terminal makes you think you are on a different server then you really are..
[08:17] <profanephobia> egyptdude: delete this rpos from the sources list http://eg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[08:17] <egyptdude> profanephobia: i did
[08:17] <Anlar> web: most of the people don't.
[08:17] <egyptdude> profanephobia: i didn't see it?
[08:17] <Anlar> web: and their servers are non-important.
[08:18] <profanephobia> egyptdude: turn off universe
[08:18] <arso> can someone help me install jre?
[08:18] <AntonSmari> profanephobia: (06:15:15 PM) profanephobia: ok now try this replacing the hdd name with yours: install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)16+19 p /boot/grub/stage2 (06:15:15 PM) profanephobia: /boot/grub/menu.lst,,  did not quite understand what you are trying to say there, I get a error in grub if I paste that command
[08:18] <One2abusE> if i want to set up a dual boot system w/ winxp and ubuntu. should i install windows first or ubuntu?
[08:18] <egyptdude> profanephobia: hold on, i'll try.
[08:18] <coastermaster> My Dell Inspiron 6000 keeps hanging when I try to suspend.  The system hangs with a blank screen and my only choice is to hold down the power button and do a hard-boot.  I've tried everything on Google to no avail.  I found this thread in the forums and tried it, but it didn't work (instead it hung at a login screen) [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=471855&highlight=dell+suspend]
[08:18] <arso> One2abusE:  windows first
[08:18] <profanephobia> antonsmari: without the ()
[08:18] <Twofclubs> crdlb: i installed the driver the method 1 way i think...http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide...what else do i need to do?
[08:18] <coastermaster> The weird thing is, suspend/hibernate used to work, but I don't know what I changed to break it
[08:19] <arso> One2abusE:  if u install ubuntu first, when u install windows, it'll remove grub or something, and you'l have problems.
[08:19] <blackhat> Jack_Sparrow, any ideas? =/
[08:19] <profanephobia> coastermaster: have you upgraded the headers lately
[08:19] <One2abusE> thanks arso.
[08:19] <arso> One2abusE:  i am dual booting xp/ubuntu since last week, did it that way, all is good now. anytime
[08:19] <egyptdude> profanephobia: there is no universe
[08:19] <coastermaster> profanephobia: I don't know what that means :-/
[08:19] <umop-apisdn> One2abusE: either load windows, then linux, or get uncomfortably familiar with "Super Grub Disk"
[08:19] <keito> is there any control panel for an ATI video card whilst still not installing the proprietary drivers?
[08:19] <arso> Java Runtime Environment anyone?
[08:19] <One2abusE> are you using 2 different hard drives?
[08:19] <coastermaster> just one day I noticed that my computer won't suspend anymore, instead it hangs
[08:20] <arso> One2abusE:  no.
[08:20] <AntonSmari> profanephobia: Error 12: Invalid device requested
[08:20] <dxdt> coastermaster: hrmmmm.  I have the dell inspiron 6000 with no problems suspending to ram.  Suspend to disk ocassionally has issues, but mostly not either.  What video driver are you using by chance?  Also have you tried disabling your networking right before shutdown?  Like disable wireless by the network manager applet?  That might help.  I use the open source drivers and have no problem...
[08:20] <dxdt> ...with it suspending really
[08:20] <arso> One2abusE:  i am using a 40gb harddisk, 30 gb windows Xp ,and 9.5 or something ubuntu and 0.5 the swap partition
[08:20] <egyptdude> profanephobia: You mean remove it from /etc/apt/soruce.list right?
[08:20] <profanephobia> egyptdude: go to system ->admin -> software sources
[08:20] <Jack_Sparrow> blackhat: It should be getting mounted...  fstab is fine
[08:20] <keito> 9.5 ubuntu? immpressive
[08:20] <bommelom> how do I connect my ubuntu laptop to a wireless ap using wpa2-psk encryption?
[08:20] <lmosher> Can anyone think of a way to make a 'beep' from within a shell? For whatever reason the "beep" program doesn't work - have I disabled my PC speaker somewhere?
[08:21] <mzanfardino> orbisvicis: thank you for the link.  I've read though it (well, most of it) and have again search to find mkinitcpio.  I installed pacman from apt thinking I could use the pacman package manager but not surprising it installed pacman the video game :)
[08:21] <Jack_Sparrow> blackhat: Is your hdb working ok?
[08:21] <One2abusE> arso: hmm i was thinking of using 2 different drives
[08:21] <blackhat> Yes
[08:21] <blackhat> my 3 hds, hdb hdd hdc are working.
[08:21] <coastermaster> dxdt: I haven't installed any drivers (that I know of) I do have beryl installed (and working).....i'll try to disable networking before, i'll be back in a second
[08:21] <arso> One2abusE:  that would work too, wouldnt make a difference really, but i prefer to have all the operating systems on a single harddisk, and the other harddisks for data only
[08:21] <keito> lmosher: try starting the box without a keyboard and mouse.. you should get several long beeps
[08:22] <lmosher> keito, Unfortunately it's a laptop :(
[08:22] <darthmarth37_> Can one include logic (i.e., if, else, ...) in gdm themes?
[08:22] <lmosher> keito: Is there any easy way to play a .wav file from command line?
[08:22] <mzanfardino> orbisvicis: now, since apt-get upgrade build the image to begin with, I wonder if I can for it to rebuild ti image.  I've tried booting to the previous image (which works) and running apt-get upgrade/update but of course all the files are already up to date.
[08:22] <Jack_Sparrow> blackhat: Sorry I dont know... HAving cdrom as hda isnt normal but it should not be an issue...  if easy to sway a and b try that.
[08:22] <mzanfardino> orbisvicis: s/build/built
[08:22] <Jack_Sparrow> swap
[08:22] <One2abusE> arso: so your ubuntu load and windows load both share data on the same drive?
[08:22] <profanephobia> egyptdude: find anything yet
[08:23] <arso> One2abusE:  um, you mean load at the same time?
[08:23] <AntonSmari> profanephobia: this command wont process :(  -   install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)16+19 p /boot/grub/stage2
[08:23] <egyptdude> profanephobia: Ya, trying to download the package now, thanks alot.
[08:23] <arso> One2abusE:  no , when i start my pc, i have to select ubuntu or windows xp
[08:23] <AntonSmari> I tried without ()
[08:23] <profanephobia> welcome
[08:23] <One2abusE> arso: you have your OSs on 1 drive and store your data on a diff drive?
[08:23] <lmosher> Anyone now how to play a .wav, mp3 or something from bash? Alternatively, any ideas why my "beep" isn't working? (laptop)
[08:23] <arso> One2abusE:  yes
[08:24] <arso> One2abusE:  some of my data partitions are ntfs, others are ext3
[08:24] <One2abusE> arso: sounds good i'll try that
[08:24] <jrib> lmosher: you could use 'aplay' for the .wav, mpg321 for the .mp3, or mplayer for both
[08:24] <One2abusE> arso: thanks
[08:24] <arso> One2abusE:  i use fs-driver on windows to read/write on ext3
[08:24] <blackhat> Jack_Sparrow, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31444/, does anything in my /dev ring a bell as a cdrom drive because my 3 hds (hdb, hdd, hdc)?
[08:24] <Jack_Sparrow> One2abusE: I have windows partition, Ubuntu partition and a fat32 where all my music, pictures and other data are stored for access by both os
[08:25] <One2abusE> arso: i was wondering about that.
[08:25] <arso> Jack_Sparrow:  why fat32, doesnt it limit file size?
[08:25] <orbisvicis> mzanfardino, not sure. the image just loads the required modules to read the filesystem. it should be as sparse as possible. unless you change kernels, then itll need to be rebuilt, i think. and mkinitcpio does not exist for ubuntu. use one of the other packages you mentioned
[08:25] <lmosher> jrib, ok, that might work. Now if only google had a "goggle sounds" Can you suggest a good soft beep?
[08:25] <One2abusE> arso: i'll have to do my homework on fs-driver
[08:25] <arso> One2abusE:  its really simple
[08:25] <Jack_Sparrow> arso: I dont have files over 4 gig
[08:25] <profanephobia> fat32 limits to like arouf 30GB
[08:25] <jrib> lmosher: sorry, I don't know any
[08:25] <profanephobia> and it limits max file size
[08:25] <lmosher> jrib, sound.google.com.... if only :'(
[08:26] <nznz> where do i download binaries for openssh?
[08:26] <dxdt> can we not get lists from freenode right now or is chatzilla just being buggy?? :-/
[08:26] <dxdt> nznz: sudo aptitude install openssh
[08:26] <Camilla> is there a channel with more specific tech questions....R3000z trouble here
[08:26] <arso> Jack_Sparrow:  can u help me install java runtime environment?
[08:26] <One2abusE> arso: the drive that contains your OSs is it ext3 also?
[08:26] <coastermaster> dxdt: no dice, still hangs even with network disabled
[08:26] <arso> One2abusE:  the hard drive has 3 partitions
[08:26] <arso> One2abusE:  first one is the windows partition , ntfs with windows xp on it
[08:26] <One2abusE> arso: i see
[08:26] <arso> One2abusE:  second is ext3 , with ubuntu in it
[08:27] <arso> One2abusE:  third is the SWAP thing, 512mb only
[08:27] <Jack_Sparrow> arso: not my thing  sorry
[08:27] <arso> Jack_Sparrow:  np
[08:27] <jrib> nznz: did you read the page ubotu linked you to earlier?  You don't download binaries on ubuntu, you use the package manager
[08:27] <mzanfardino> orbisvicis: I know the source of the problem: I installed dkms (dynamic kernel module support) and used it to build and installa custom driver for my adaptec controller.  I still relatively new to linux and might not have the right picture of what's going on, but I think that when I build the driver I recreated the image to load the driver which is failing.  I want to back out of the image that has the driver built into it but
[08:27] <mzanfardino> have no clue how to do this...
[08:27] <Jack_Sparrow> blackhat: I dont see anything in there on your cdrom
[08:27] <One2abusE> arso: cool thanks..
[08:27] <blackhat> =(
[08:27] <arso> One2abusE:  anytime.
[08:27] <mzanfardino> orbisvicis: I may have found a way to remove it using dkms
[08:28] <nznz> i did apt-get install openssh-server, but i get an error
[08:28] <jrib> nznz: tell us the error (use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if it is long)
[08:28] <Camilla> is there a beginner Ubuntu channel??
[08:28] <Some_Person> How do I make an exact copy of a user WITHOUT ERRORS like i get when i just copy the home folder
[08:28] <coastermaster> how do I find out what video card I am using?
[08:28] <jrib> Camilla: you're in it :)  This channel is for ubuntu users of all levels
[08:28] <jrib> coastermaster: lspci
[08:28] <nznz> jrib: package is not available
[08:29] <jrib> nznz: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[08:29] <Camilla> jrib: thanks...so, can anyone help with SD/MMC TI reader not working on R3000z
[08:29] <coastermaster> jrib: thanks
[08:29] <nznz> im on another computer :/
[08:29] <Some_Person> please tell me
[08:29] <jrib> Some_Person: what errors?
[08:29] <orbisvicis> mzanfardino, im no expert on this. but i think you dont have, to rebuild the image, just blacklist the module for that specific driver
[08:29] <orbisvicis> !blacklist
[08:29] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u
[08:29] <RainMaker> I'm having some problems with my Ubuntu Live CD...
[08:29] <molkko> whats the metapackage to pull to turn feisty server into feisty with gnome desktop?
[08:29] <Some_Person> jrib: X only lasted less than 10seconds, something about $HOME
[08:30] <RainMaker> Can some one help me?
[08:30] <jrib> molkko: ubuntu-desktop
[08:30] <nznz> jrib: it has a lot of be.archvie.ubutunt.com in it
[08:30] <jrib> Some_Person: did you give ownersip of all the files to the new user?
[08:30] <RainMaker> I get a login screen...and I have no clue how to get around/through it.
[08:30] <Some_Person> jrib: I just want to copy menu and desktop settings
[08:30] <Some_Person> jrib: yes
[08:30] <jrib> nznz: does the ubuntu computer have internet access?
[08:30] <RainMaker> Is there a universal username/password?
[08:30] <jshriver> how do you find out the TZ value?
[08:30] <aarcane> Hi, when I turn the volume up or down using the hotkeys, and that little popup shows me what the volume level is...  what program is that ?
[08:30] <jshriver> or set it via cli
[08:30] <nznz> jrib: yeah
[08:30] <jrib> Some_Person: then it should work
[08:30] <mzanfardino> orbisvicis: I think you may be right.  I've found a remove option for dkms so I'm going to attempt this.
[08:31] <JosefK> !grub
[08:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:31] <jshriver> !TZ
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <dxdt> coastermaster: it might just be the beryl then.  I don't run beryl at the moment and I've had no problems.  You could try that, otherwise I'm not sure how more help I can be
[08:31] <jrib> RainMaker: username: ubuntu   password: blank/empty
[08:31] <jshriver> !timezone
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about timezone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <Some_Person> jrib: well it doesnt, dont ask me why, but tell me how to copy over the menu and desktop settings
[08:31] <RainMaker> K got it
[08:31] <RainMaker> Thanks jrib
[08:31] <jrib> Some_Person: pastebin the exact errors you are getting
[08:31] <Camilla> Ideas on getting a TI SD/MMC card(s) to work on an R3000z.
[08:31] <coastermaster> dxdt: ok, i'll try to disable beryl before I suspend next time and I'll see how it goes....if not, I'll be back :)
[08:31] <Some_Person> jrib: cant copy them, i'd have to write them down
[08:31] <RainMaker> BTW when I run a file check on my ISO, it says 1 file is bad
[08:31] <jrib> Some_Person: do that then
[08:31] <coastermaster> dxdt: thanks for your help
[08:31] <RainMaker> Is that a big deal maybe?
[08:32] <aarcane> Hi, when I turn the volume up or down using the hotkeys, and that little popup shows me what the volume level is...  what program is that ?  what other programs can do the same or similar ? (I'm most interrested in showing changes in volume, but making changes when a hotkey is pressed is also important.   not sure if it's two apps or one)
[08:32] <Some_Person> jrib: just tell me where the desktop and menu settings are
[08:32] <jrib> RainMaker: yeah, check the md5sum of the file you downloaded.  If that is ok, reburn your cd.  If it's not ok, download it again
[08:32] <orbisvicis> mzanfardino, luck ; )
[08:32] <dxdt> coastermaster: yeah, sorry I can't be more help, just keep in mind that I do have an inspiron 6k so it is possible.  Must be some software glitch
[08:32] <RainMaker> Ok
[08:32] <mwe> are all sd card readers supposed to be able to write as well?
[08:32] <jrib> Some_Person: ~/.gnome* ~/.gconf* ~/.config ~/.local  for the most part
[08:32] <RainMaker> Thanks alot
[08:32] <coastermaster> dxdt: i know it's possible, because it was working for me too, but then I did something to break it (but I don't know what)
[08:32] <Some_Person> jrib: thank you, i'll copy those folders
[08:33] <jrib> RainMaker: make sure you burn no higher than 4x
[08:33] <RainMaker> Ok...that may have been the problem
[08:33] <jrib> nznz: then why not pastebin the /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[08:33] <RainMaker> I didnt burn it however
[08:33] <jshriver> How do you set or view the system timezone? From reading has something to do with a TZ variable
[08:33] <bobgill> What is "ubuntu-desktop" package? I'm installing Compiz Fusion and need to remove current compiz to install
[08:34] <jrib> !ubuntu-desktop | bobgill
[08:34] <ubotu> bobgill: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[08:34] <RainMaker> I had to get someone else to due to current restrictions on my internet use.
[08:34] <dxdt> bobgill: meta package, don't worry it won't kill your system.  It just sounds really scary and stuffs
[08:34] <bobgill> ok
[08:34] <bobgill> thanks
[08:34] <zaxor0> is it possible i locked out my USB Hard drive by using the command "chmod 666 -v /media/Harddrive"
[08:35] <jrib> jshriver: tzconfig
[08:35] <jrib> jshriver: /etc/timezone stores the current one
[08:35] <Jack_Sparrow> which cd rippers will pull the names and title from an online db?
[08:36] <jrib> zaxor0: yeah, probably.  You want it to be executable
[08:36] <schwach> grip
[08:36] <umop-apisdn> Jack_Sparrow: lots of them
[08:36] <Jack_Sparrow> schwach: thanks
[08:36] <jrib> !permissions > zaxor0 (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:37] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: sound juicer and grip both look up freedb afaik
[08:37] <zechs> Where can I find what iptables is blocking?
[08:37] <zechs> and then fixit.
[08:37] <Some_Person> jrib: that copied the menu settings, what about desktop settings?
[08:37] <umop-apisdn> !permissions
[08:37] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[08:37] <howlingmadhowie> zechs: iptables -L
[08:37] <AntonSmari> jetscreamer: yes thats what im trying to do
[08:37] <umop-apisdn> ah
[08:37] <jrib> Some_Person: what desktop settings exactly?
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> erUSUL: Soundjuicer didnt pull up the names and didnt see an option to have it do so..  maybe just couldnt find that title?
[08:37] <zechs> Error
[08:38] <Kilroo> Quick question. If I want to run my existing (dual-boot) Windoze XP installation as a VM on occasion, am I correct in surmising that I am probably better off with VMWare than with QEMU?
[08:38] <jrib> zechs: sudo iptables -L    and it usually helps to tell us *what* the error was
[08:38] <profanephobia> yes
[08:38] <RainMaker> The login for Live CD still wont work Jrib
[08:38] <RainMaker> I typed "Ubuntu" and no password.
[08:38] <royel> RainMaker: all lower case
[08:39] <RainMaker> Tried that too
[08:39] <Thib_> hello. I just installed Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS on a server machine, and I want to install most of the sun-java5-* packages on it. I uncommented lines in /etc/apt/sources.list to include most of the possible repositories but I can only find sun-java6-* packages in Aptitude. Where can I find the sun-java5-* packages?
[08:39] <jrib> RainMaker: the live cd should just put you straight on the desktop, it's likely that the bad burn is causing your issues
[08:39] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: probably i do not rip cd's often but iirc sound juicer does look up the tracks
[08:39] <RainMaker> I was afriad of that
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> erUSUL: thanks..
[08:39] <jrib> !multiverse > Thib_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:39] <nemo_work> I have an old machine (384MiB of memory, 5.5GiB of HD space) that I was planning to install ubuntu on
[08:39] <profanephobia> ive never had a live cd with a login
[08:39] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: no problem
[08:39] <RainMaker> So, I need to re-burn it
[08:39] <RainMaker> 4x speed?
[08:39] <jrib> Thib_: oh you said 6.06, let me check...
[08:39] <nemo_work> however, while knoppix will run nicely on it (even in that tiny amount of memory - so long as I don't try anything fancy) ubuntu boot CD keeps kicking me to busybox
[08:39] <nemo_work> any ideas?
[08:40] <dxdt> nemo_work: xubuntu should be ok with those specs
[08:40] <zechs> Yeah. That doesn't make any sense to me. I just want to be able to use port 180 to run a chat server, but I keep getting unable to bind to port..
[08:40] <gigabytes> hello
[08:40] <nemo_work> dxdt: issue is more the booting. think xubuntu would have more luck?
[08:40] <royel> !alternate | nemo_work
[08:40] <gigabytes> is there an easy way to change the background image of the ubuntu splash screen?
[08:40] <ubotu> nemo_work: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[08:40] <jrib> Thib_: yeah, you need ubuntu multiverse.  You likely only have ubuntu-backports multiverse
[08:40] <dxdt> nemo_work: hmmm  maybe.  But, I don't have that much experience with it to say yes or no
[08:40] <bommelom> how do I connect my ubuntu laptop to a wireless ap using wpa2-psk encryption?
[08:40] <bommelom> how do I connect my ubuntu laptop to a wireless ap using wpa2-psk encryption?
[08:40] <AntonSmari> the live cd requires a login if you ctrl-alt + backspace it to reset the display drivers
[08:41] <jrib> !usplash > gigabytes (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:41] <erUSUL> !wifi | bommelom
[08:41] <ubotu> bommelom: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:41] <Keith> Hi, Anyone familiar with installing JRE (Java Runtime Environment) Im stuck :)
[08:41] <Keith> !jre
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <jrib> !java > Keith (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:41] <erUSUL> !java > Keith
[08:41] <nemo_work> dxdt: was hoping to avoid too much confusion. XFCE4 has improved a lot, but can still be a bit odd
[08:41] <bommelom> !wifi
[08:41] <Keith> ty sirs :)
[08:41] <mzanfardino> orbisvicis: it seems that though I removed the module, the newly built image still fails.  I might have been overlooking a crutial matter, that being that the image does attempt to boot but locks up when it finds /devfs is read only.  I read something in the link you sent about an issue LVM and RAID, which this happens to be, so I think I'm going to see if I need to do something special when building the image to enable LVM
[08:41] <mzanfardino> support.  Does that sound reasonable to you?
[08:41] <nemo_work> ubotu: ok. so there's a feisty variant of this alternate CD?
[08:41] <gigabytes> jrib: I followed that howto but I can't get the theme to work
[08:41] <jrib> nemo_work: ubotu is a bot
[08:41] <nemo_work> lol
[08:41] <zechs> Is there a GUI thing for iptables..
[08:41] <royel> lol
[08:41] <nemo_work> jrib: dang it. sorry, lot of noise in channel. I do know better :-p
[08:42] <howlingmadhowie> zechs is port 180 already in use in /etc/services?
[08:42] <royel> nemo_work: yes there is a feisty version
[08:42] <jrib> !firestarter > zechs (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:42] <erUSUL> zechs: firestarter
[08:42] <AntonSmari> anyone familiar with grub commands that can help me?
[08:42] <jrib> gigabytes: never made a custom one myself, so I can't really help
[08:42] <orbisvicis> zechs, guarddog
[08:42] <gigabytes> jrib: instead of my picture I get a strange default picture full of coloured rectangles and other things, that seems more like a debug picture
[08:42] <orbisvicis> zechs, more control than firestarter but sucks for nf
[08:42] <orbisvicis> *nfs
[08:42] <Twofclubs> hi i was wondering how i could check to see if my wireless card is working...is there a certain command i can use to check if i need any drivers...thank you
[08:42] <jrib> nemo_work: the answer to your question is "yes" though.  It's easier to find on releases.ubuntu.com
[08:43] <nemo_work> jrib: downloading now...
[08:43] <zechs> I just want to completly open up a port
[08:43] <erUSUL> Twofclubs: run iwconfig and see if you have some wireless device listed
[08:43] <nemo_work> jrib: ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[08:43] <howlingmadhowie> zechs: i imagine the port is open. you just to attach a listener to it
[08:43] <jrib> zechs: all ports are open by default unless you closed them or installed something that closed them
[08:43] <Twofclubs> says no wireless extensions
[08:43] <zechs> :/
[08:43] <arso> does anyone here have a SONY MP3 player, or knows how i can transfer songs to one here ?
[08:44] <arso> i have an NW-A1000
[08:44] <erUSUL> !wifi | Twofclubs
[08:44] <ubotu> Twofclubs: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:44] <Twofclubs> erUSUL: here is what i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31447/
[08:45] <howlingmadhowie> zechs: as well as this, only servers running as root are allowed to use a port numer below 1024
[08:45] <tom_> Question?? Does anyone know the current Linux / OpenSource inside status of 1394 firewire and Pro audio gear interfaces such as M-audio or Edirol might be up and working?
[08:45] <zechs> I dunno. I try to run WCS ( a chat server for winmx) I had it working on port 80 a while ago, usualy giving me unable to bind to port errors (which I never seemed to get on windows.. but I couldn't get windows to stay on for more than 8 days...)
[08:45] <Jack_Sparrow> erUSUL: It figures the three discs the wife wanted me to rip anre not in the db... everything working fine
[08:46] <zechs> Oh.. Well, That's annoying.. that I have to use a large number
[08:46] <arso> no one :( ?
[08:46] <howlingmadhowie> zechs: yep :)
[08:46] <zechs> I've been using port 180 for ages
[08:46] <erUSUL> Twofclubs: eth1 is your wireless device
[08:47] <Twofclubs> erUSUL: so it is in working order?
[08:47] <zechs> and I have port 180 forwarded in my router, and port 80. Now I have to go add 1024 @.x
[08:47] <erUSUL> Twofclubs: the driver is loaded and you ot a interface to configure it is a good start ;) Try to configure it via System>Admin>Networking
[08:48] <Twofclubs> erUSUL: new to all this...thank you for your help sir
[08:48] <erUSUL> Twofclubs: no problem
[08:48] <nemo_work> hm. looks like the xubuntu folks made some significant customisations. you know, I think I'll try that one first
[08:49] <Twofclubs> erUSUL: this is a very noob question but how do i install tar.gz files...im trying to get Compiz on m computer
[08:49] <crackintosh> If I wanted to add a network drive to google desktop, what would the path to my SMB shares be in the file system?
[08:49] <nemo_work> anyone here happen to know what XFCE4 desktop they are using?
[08:49] <nemo_work> can't seem to find it on the site
[08:49] <Thib_> jrib: yes, you are right.
[08:49] <Keith> how do I add the multiverse repository?
[08:49] <erUSUL> Twofclubs: compiz comes with ubuntu feisty preinstaled
[08:50] <jrib> Keith: did you read the link ubotu sent you?
[08:50] <erUSUL> !compiz | Twofclubs
[08:50] <ubotu> Twofclubs: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:50] <colkhis> is there ubuntu 7.04 live CD?
[08:50] <_wattazoum_> Hello
[08:50] <Keith> jrib: yes
[08:50] <nemo_work> kind of hoping XFCE 4.4.1
[08:50] <jrib> !multiverse > Keith (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:50] <Keith> jrib: but it says i need the multiverse
[08:50] <Thib_> jrib: I found the right instructions to add multiverse (by analogy with universe) and now Aptitude sees and installs sun-java5-* packages.
[08:50] <jrib> Thib_: great
[08:50] <Thib_> jrib: thank you very much for your help.
[08:51] <nemo_work> hum. looks like 4.4.0 - ah well. that can be updated
[08:51] <jrib> Keith: the Java page says at the top "For more information about the Multiverse repository, please visit the following guide: " and then links to the guide ubotu just sent you
[08:51] <AnRkey> how do i set the time of my server via command line
[08:51] <AnRkey> ?
[08:51] <nznz> !ssh
[08:51] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[08:52] <jrib> AnRkey: date
[08:52] <nemo_work> -s to be specific
[08:52] <AnRkey> jrib, thanks
[08:52] <scoobydoo28139> how do i restore xorg?
[08:52] <nznz> install ssh
[08:53] <kootaphor> Does anyone know of an easy guide like this - http://aplawrence.com/Linux/linux_bootstrap.html for feisty? I want to mess around with startup scripts, but exactly how Ubuntu handles runlevels and such is a bit unclear, and I'd rather just learn the whole thing than ask a specific question.
[08:53] <nznz> hi, i can find openssh in the add/remove applications menu. is this normal?
[08:53] <scoobydoo28139> i am running on live cd cause it won't boot in grafic mode now that i installed drivers
[08:53] <nznz> cant*
[08:53] <jrib> nznz: yes if you don't have the main repository enabled
[08:53] <nznz> jrib: how do i enable it?
[08:53] <stenudd> Hi I shoud need some Help / advice :S It's like this: I Cant go on ANY Wikipedia site doesnt matter which browser i have, Iam from sweden if it matter
[08:53] <jrib> !repositories > nznz (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:54] <nznz> thanks
[08:54] <Keith> jrib: I cant see anything on JRE installation on that java link, I want to enable java in firefox, any ideas?
[08:54] <jrib> Keith: install the sun-java6-plugin package
[08:54] <scoobydoo28139> help!!!
[08:55] <kahrytan> !java
[08:55] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:55] <Keith> jrib: ok ty will try that
[08:55] <jrib> Keith: the last link was for multiverse remember which you need
[08:55] <kahrytan> !java > keith
[08:55] <hendrik> hello. i dont know a solution.... im trying to run dualview... but i only got the same frame as the first monitor. my xorg.conf: http://nopaste.info/98899d7fc2.html
[08:56] <kahrytan> jrib: amazing how useful ubotu is
[08:56] <Keith> how do i actually edit my source.list?
[08:56] <ninix> is fglrx support direct rendering with Xinerama
[08:56] <jrib> Keith: system -> administration -> software sources
[08:57] <Keith> jrib: which tab do I add it on?
[08:57] <scoobydoo28139> this sux
[08:57] <hendrik> does anybody see a mistake from my side?
[08:57] <jrib> Keith: the first one?
[08:57] <Keith> jrib: ok im blind, ty :)
[08:58] <harshil102> i need
[08:58] <sagar> where can i find the patches which are applied to the ubuntu kernel?
[08:58] <kahrytan> Ubuntu needs more blind people
[08:58] <Keith> you guys are amazing, the people that help, just like to say :)
[08:58] <_aib> can you have init.d scripts in your home directory?
[08:58] <jrib> !kernel > sagar (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:59] <jrib> sagar: that links to the git tree where ubuntu keeps its kernel, I think that's what you want?
[08:59] <SirSherlock> kahrytan: what do u mean by more blind people
[08:59] <scoobydoo28139> jrib: do you know how to restore xorg?
[08:59] <harshil102> i need help with my display setup
[08:59] <jrib> scoobydoo28139: I don't know what that means
[08:59] <kahrytan> SirSherlock: I mean, It needs better support for screen readers
[09:00] <SirSherlock> i agree my sister is blind, and ive been wanting to show her linux
[09:00] <scoobydoo28139> jrib: i can't start now cause i downloaded new drivers for my video card. So i am on live cd
[09:00] <SirSherlock> kahrytan: do u have any experience with screen readers, any suggestions?
[09:00] <kahrytan> SirSherlock: and the live cd could have screen reader on it so blind people can install ubuntu
[09:00] <sagar> jrib: oh cool i think that's it...thanks!
[09:00] <Ind[y] > How do I check through apt-get which version of a package I have installed?
[09:00] <SirSherlock> kahrytan: 7.04 has orca installed
[09:00] <kahrytan> SirSherlock: There is a few screen readers.
[09:01] <Pici> Ind[y] : apt-cache policy package
[09:01] <SirSherlock> u used them at all?
[09:01] <Ind[y] > Pici: thx
[09:01] <jrib> scoobydoo28139: after X fails to start, hit ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a terminal and enter 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', then restart X with 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart', then go back to X with ctrl-alt-f7
[09:01] <kahrytan> orca
[09:02] <Keith> whats a good pure irc client for linux?
[09:02] <SirSherlock> how is it, as far as praticallity?
[09:02] <kahrytan> orca doesnt work
[09:02] <kuitang> Keith: I use irssi, it works very well
[09:03] <kahrytan> Keith: I use xchat myself
[09:03] <Keith> ok ty will check them out
[09:04] <lmosher> Can someone remind me: What's the command to enter on the grub startup line to make it take a really long time but save bootup information so subsequent boots are faster?
[09:04] <osxdude|lap> okay I have done every thing I can to make this work, but for some reason I cannot get a (valid) output to my TV. I trying to use the 2 X screens method...what am I doing wrong?
[09:05] <Flodo> Time for me to disconnect my pda and go home from work.
[09:05] <emile> everytime i reboot my fstab mounted usbdisk fails on fsck2 (superblock can not be read) if i manually e2fsck -b 32768 /dev/sda1 i have no problems, any clues what can be wrong?
[09:05] <nznz> ok, i think i update something, there are a bit more entries in the add/remove
[09:05] <nznz> but still no openssh
[09:05] <kahrytan> Is it just me but does http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=61891&forumpage=1 look beautiful?
[09:05] <emile> everytime i reboot my fstab mounted usbdisk fails on fsck2 (superblock can not be read) if i manually e2fsck -b 32768 /dev/sda1 i have no problems, any clues what can be wrong? <- this is on dapper server lts btw
[09:05] <hendrik> nobody using dualview here?
[09:06] <nemo_work> lmosher: you mean fcache?
[09:06] <mzanfardino> grub question: what is the command to auto-generate menu.lst?
[09:06] <nemo_work> lmosher: if so, is that thing really stable?
[09:07] <nznz> why is it so hard to install openssh :(
[09:07] <syntux> nznz,  what are you trying to do ?
[09:07] <kuitang> it's not... what difficulties do you have?
[09:07] <mzanfardino> nznz: I just apt-get openssh-server and it works brilliantly
[09:07] <nemo_work> lmosher: from description, sure sounds like it :)
[09:07] <lmosher> nemo_work, No, the directions to initiate involve hitting 'e' in grub and adding something to the kernel line. I'm just trying to remember what it was.
[09:07] <nemo_work> lmosher: ... which would be a kernel parameter
[09:07] <nznz> it get an error doing apt-get and it doesnt show up in add/remove programs
[09:07] <chrisellis> anyone ever heard of an ATI RADEON X100
[09:07] <nemo_work> lmosher: ... which could easily be the fcache param
[09:07] <ninix> is fglrx support direct rendering with Xinerama?
[09:08] <syntux> nznz, just 'sudo aptitude install openssh-server' and you will get it up and running :d
[09:08] <hendrik> ninix: no.
[09:08] <lmosher> nemo_work, I'm doubtful... it was a few months since I did it, but that doesn't sound familiar.
[09:08] <nemo_work> lmosher: well, fcache parameters.
[09:08] <nemo_work> aight
[09:08] <kuitang> If all else fails you can manually d/l package and dpkg -i
[09:08] <nznz> omg thanks syntux
[09:09] <nemo_work> lmosher: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_FCache (using gentoo personally, but pretty much same thing) - so not that
[09:09] <ninix> hendrik:  :( ....... i hate ati.
[09:09] <syntux> nznz,  you welcome :-)
[09:09] <lmosher> nemo_work, you just added 1 word. Basically boot records everything it's doing so in the future it will load it faster... I last ran this 3 or so kernel updates ago, so my system boots slower..
[09:09] <hendrik> ninix: me too :*(
[09:09] <mhterres_> hi guys
[09:09] <bwisdom_> Hello folks, maybe I can get some help. On X-Chat, I cannot dl anything
[09:09] <mhterres_> anybody knows where can I find a repository that have a clamav 0.91 version for Dapper ?
[09:09] <hendrik> ninix: i tried with mergedfb.. no solution :/
[09:09] <syntux> bwisdom_, you might have better chance with #xChat
[09:09] <lmosher> nemo_work, no it wasn't fcache then, I didn't add a partitino or patch my kernel.
[09:10] <nemo_work> hm. haven't heard of any other similar project
[09:10] <ninix> hendrik:  the only way to have 2 screen and good OPENGL performe is to use DualDesktop and not DualView ?
[09:10] <bwisdom_> syntux: I just came from there and they are all either idle or dont want to answer
[09:10] <lmosher> nemo_work, profile. That's what I'm missing.
[09:10] <nemo_work> lmosher: oh? huh.
[09:10] <hendrik> ninix: maybe but i would like to use dualview...
[09:11] <syntux> bwisdom_, ok, maybe we can start with tell me what do you have in Preferences -> File transfer.
[09:11] <nemo_work> lmosher: that speeds up boot... how?
[09:11] <lmosher> nemo_work, Yeah, you add "profile" to your kernel line, your system will take like 5 minutes to boot, but uses this profile for subsequent boots to load things faster.
[09:11] <nemo_work> lmosher: didn't know that was used for anything but kernel debugging
[09:12] <bwisdom_> Only thing I have set are where I dl to, where completed files go, and my ip. I set my ip because i am on campus
[09:12] <nemo_work> lmosher: how 'sactly do you see it speeding boot?
[09:12] <bwisdom_> syntux: Only thing I have set are where I dl to, where completed files go, and my ip. I set my ip because i am on campus
[09:12] <BLZiN> Hi people im after some (n00bish) help with my ubuntu 6.06 server plz
[09:12] <bwisdom_> syntux: everything else is unchecked
[09:12] <nemo_work> lmosher: sorry, don't see profile working the way you describe at all,
[09:13] <kahrytan> BLZiN: First, why you using Dapper?
[09:13] <Gizmo_the_Great> hi. Anyone know why, when I run gparted in Feisty Fawn it just says 'scanning disks' for ages and never displays disk drives? I have run using sudo gparted.
[09:13] <nemo_work> lmosher: googling, only mentions it being used to toggle /proc/profile for performance analysis
[09:13] <syntux> bwisdom_, it might be campus firewall or something but my only try would be to check download directory permission
[09:13] <PriceChild> kahrytan, dapper is stable and supported longer than feisty... its fine.
[09:13] <BLZiN> because thats all my server company gives me option to install with
[09:13] <mhterres_> kahrytan, maybe cause it is a LTS version
[09:13] <lmosher> nemo_work, Hrm ok, perhaps the site I was using was rong :)
[09:13] <syntux> dapper is just lovely.
[09:13] <lmosher> wrong
[09:13] <PriceChild> BLZiN, what's the questino? :)
[09:13] <nemo_work> lmosher: fcache is thoe only one I'm aware of, and it isn't automagic 'nor necessarily safe
[09:13] <kahrytan> PriceChild: I know that
[09:13] <hendrik> ninix: i dont know a solution.. if you found one.. tell me :)
[09:13] <kahrytan> PriceChild: but using Dapper just for LTS isnt a very good one
[09:14] <kahrytan> isnta  good reason
[09:14] <BLZiN> Pricechild - ok im connected with putty i had to redo the source list and change the language which i did fine, i want to no what i need to do to enable a remote desktop connection plz
[09:14] <PriceChild> kahrytan, for servers it definitely is.
[09:14] <Twofclubs> Hi everyone, i'd really like to get m Compiz to work, i just set up feisty on my laptop, but i am not sure how to do this
[09:14] <PriceChild> BLZiN, but it is a server....?
[09:14] <BLZiN> yes
[09:14] <Gizmo_the_Great> can anyone suggest a GUI disk partitioner for Feisty Fawn, other than GParted?
[09:14] <BLZiN> no sorry
[09:14] <BLZiN> desktop
[09:14] <bwisdom_> syntux: Oh, I never realized that. The dir I had my completed files go to isnt writable. Hmm, also, how do you connect to more than one server/channel?
[09:14] <PriceChild> BLZiN, right ok... its a desktop install on a remote server?
[09:14] <kahrytan> PriceChild: Wouldn't more updated version using more updated software be a better idea?
[09:15] <BLZiN> Pricechild - Yes
[09:15] <PriceChild> kahrytan, no
[09:15] <PriceChild> kahrytan, higher versino number != best
[09:15] <kahrytan> PriceChild: I disagree
[09:15] <PriceChild> kahrytan, lets go to -offtopic please
[09:15] <syntux> bwisdom_, click on xchat -> new -> server tab or simply just CTRL-T then type /server servername
[09:15] <syntux> bwisdom_, as for channels just /join #Channel_name.
[09:16] <bwisdom_> syntux: ok thanks. lets see how this works
[09:17] <PriceChild> BLZiN, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RemoteAccess this might be of use to you :)
[09:17] <syntux> bwisdom_, sure.
[09:17] <BLZiN> TY :D
[09:17] <PriceChild> BLZiN, ah wait no....
[09:17] <BLZiN> oo
[09:17] <PriceChild> BLZiN, doesn't explain how to enable without gui
[09:17] <BLZiN> meaning doesnt explain how to with putty
[09:17] <Twofclubs> when i go to system>preferences>desktop effects i get the message The Composite extension is not available? what is that?
[09:18] <PriceChild> BLZiN, gimme a few mins and i'll find a guide :)
[09:18] <BLZiN> np
[09:18] <PriceChild> BLZiN, why do you want gui access on a server anyway btw?
[09:18] <kuitang> BLZiN: it's a good idea just to learn the command line if you're running a server
[09:18] <BLZiN> because im useless at using putty
[09:18] <BLZiN> i feel comfortable with remote access
[09:19] <nemo_work> NXCleint!
[09:19] <nemo_work> nxclient
[09:19] <PriceChild> BLZiN, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[09:19] <BLZiN> ypu i have nx
[09:19] <PriceChild> BLZiN, Hmmmm ok :)
[09:19] <BLZiN> :)
[09:19] <nemo_work> PriceChild: we have gui access on all our servers. there really are times it is handy
[09:19] <PriceChild> BLZiN, but the gui will increase overhead
[09:19] <nemo_work> PriceChild: and if you have the disc space, no reason not to use nxclient
[09:19] <PriceChild> nemo_work, no doubt :)
[09:19] <PriceChild> nemo_work, maybe you could tell BLZiN the best way to go about it then? As I've never done this myself.
[09:20] <kuitang> nemo_work: you're not referring to Windows server, are you?
[09:20] <nemo_work> PriceChild: mm. only done it on Fedora Core and Gentoo.
[09:20] <nemo_work> but you pretty much just install nxserver
[09:20] <nemo_work> nxclient tunnels over ssh and tries to run nxserver
[09:20] <PriceChild> nemo_work, gentoo servers..... rather you than me :)
[09:20] <nemo_work> requires no fancy config until you're server paranoid
[09:20] <nemo_work> s/until/unless/
[09:20] <h4ck3r> Hey guys, I have a problem with my laptops X
[09:20] <Spee_Der> Using Feisty Fawn 7.04 and CT4780 sound blaster, no sound. Any tips or suggestions please ?
[09:20] <BLZiN> ok didnt think of that lemme google it
[09:20] <PriceChild> ok i'll try and find an nxserver guide then
[09:20] <BLZiN> yeah me 2
[09:20] <BLZiN> :)
[09:20] <PriceChild> BLZiN, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[09:20] <h4ck3r> I am typing out my problem just a sec lol
[09:21] <Gambit123456789> anyone here willing to gimmie a hand with dual booting please ?
[09:21] <stefg> !sound
[09:21] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:21] <Keith> so i installed the sun-java6-plugin package, and all seemed to go ok, but firefox still saying i need JRE, any ideas?
[09:21] <BLZiN> dam ur fast
[09:21] <nemo_work> PriceChild: gentoo is just as safe on the server as any other distro. if you feel the upgrade cycle is too breakneck, there are simple things you can do
[09:21] <PriceChild> nemo_work, "safe" yes.... but maintaining it sounds scary :)
[09:21] <genii> Bah, lmosher left. I found his grub tweak here: http://designedfor.wordpress.com/2007/05/28/1-tip-to-boot-faster/
[09:21] <Spee_Der> stefg, thanks.
[09:21] <nemo_work> PriceChild: http://m8y.org/gentoosync.txt <- and I did this on one server to really restrict what happens in an update :)
[09:22] <nemo_work> PriceChild: well, actually 1 server and 1 desktop (my laptop with only 96MiB of memory and a 4GiB HD)
[09:22] <nemo_work> PriceChild: the fancy config, btw, for the paranoid, is to issue a new cert for nxserver
[09:22] <raf256> why ubuntu package manager sucks big time?
[09:22] <nemo_work> PriceChild: that way, not any nxclient can connect to it
[09:23] <sayers> Does quad-core work fine on Ubuntu?
[09:23] <PriceChild> sounds good...
[09:23] <nemo_work> PriceChild: of course, the server already has password restrictions anyway.
[09:23] <m1r> why raf256 ?
[09:23] <PriceChild> sayers, yes
[09:23] <BLZiN> ok that first command Pricechild
[09:23] <BLZiN> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:23] <BLZiN> i get this error
[09:23] <stefg> raf256: because you don't understand it
[09:23] <BLZiN> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[09:23] <h4ck3r> I have been trying to get my X rendering working and I was messing around trying to follow a walkthrough I did some installing of apps and messed up some symbolic links. and know after doing an apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg and installing it again the error I get is something about being unable to move old log file. I have read that upgrading ubuntu will fix it but in feisty faun my wireless card doesn't work, is there a way to upgrade e
[09:23] <h4ck3r> verything but my networking?
[09:23] <raf256> stefg: it should just work
[09:23] <nemo_work> ok, does #ubuntu *really* need two URL logging bots? :)
[09:24] <genii> sayers: You may want to put as kernel option if it doesn't load right the first time "notsc"
[09:24] <PriceChild> BLZiN, use "sudo nano" instead of "gksudo gedit"
[09:24] <BLZiN> kk
[09:24] <stefg> raf256: that's what it does, although it's not pebkac safe
[09:24] <PriceChild> nemo_work, one logs everything, the other only logs during bans.
[09:24] <nemo_work> huh
[09:24] <h4ck3r> Anyone any ideas?
[09:24] <nemo_work> PriceChild: 'cause there were two hits to my server after I linked to that text file I made
[09:24] <Gambit123456789> can someone help a linux noob out here? :)
[09:24] <kazim59> i want to install rtsp server on my fiesty.. .how do I do that?
[09:24] <nemo_work> PriceChild: "IrssiUrlLog/0.2" and "Python-urllib/2.4"
[09:24] <zials> thats what the channel is for
[09:25] <BLZiN> Pricechild - Am i correct that it wants me to rewrite the source list?
[09:25] <PriceChild> BLZiN, not rewrite... just add new repositories
[09:25] <profanephobia> gambit what do you need
[09:25] <BLZiN> Pricechild - sorry for dumb questions so i just add them two at the top
[09:25] <h4ck3r> Is it possible to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 but not upgrade the networking packages because 7.04 breaks the support for my wireless card while it works in 6.10
[09:25] <PriceChild> BLZiN, sounds good
[09:25] <BLZiN> kk
[09:25] <PriceChild> h4ck3r, what card?
[09:26] <Gambit123456789> I'm after installing Ubuntu on a second hard drive, and am dual booting between that and windows, but when i try to launch windows on start up it gets caught in the "starting up" cycle and nothing happens....any ideas? :(
[09:26] <h4ck3r> pricechild netgear ma521 I believe my laptop is up stairs though so I will need to go check it
[09:26] <nemo_work> Gambit123456789: ... if it makes it to the windows kernel, it is a windows error
[09:26] <profanephobia> gambit what windows ver
[09:26] <nemo_work> Gambit123456789: and you won't get much help here
[09:26] <spy80us> if im running i386 version ubuntu on amd 64 turion which types of packages do i get?  i386 or amd 64?
[09:26] <iShock> Hello. How do people get things like this on their desktop? http://gnomelook.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=60466&file1=60466-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=Mac+OS+X+Leopard
[09:26] <nemo_work> Gambit123456789: unless you mean it hangs at the grub chain relay
[09:27] <Keith> Java install went ok but firefox is still saying I need JRE, any ideas?
[09:27] <h4ck3r> pricechild yeah ma521
[09:27] <h4ck3r> pci card
[09:27] <Gambit123456789> yeah, it hangs at the grub chain relay
[09:27] <PriceChild> h4ck3r, ma521? Never heard of it :S
[09:27] <profanephobia> Gambit123456789: reinstall grub
[09:27] <genii> spy80us: i386
[09:27] <PriceChild> profanephobia, that won't help
[09:27] <nemo_work> Keith: huh. that's odd. ubuntu doesn't symlink the mozilla plugin from the java install to your mozilla plugins dir? how odd
[09:27] <spy80us> thanks
[09:27] <Gambit123456789> i can do that from the ubuntu cd, correct?
[09:27] <iShock> Hello. How do people get things like this on their desktop? http://gnomelook.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=60466&file1=60466-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=Mac+OS+X+Leopard
[09:27] <PriceChild> Gambit123456789, that won't help
[09:28] <Konsole> can someone help me with this please
[09:28] <Konsole> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:28] <Gambit123456789> oh?
[09:28] <Keith> nemo_work: do i need to do that manually?
[09:28] <profanephobia> exactly where does it stop and what does it say
[09:28] <nemo_work> Keith: seems unlikely, but I'm not that ubuntu savvy - maybe they use a separate package
[09:28] <h4ck3r> PriceChild it is a great card, although I got it a few years ago. It gets good reception and was possible to get working with ndiswrapper in the early ubuntu's
[09:28] <stefg> !themes | iShock
[09:28] <ubotu> iShock: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[09:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Konsole: what are you trying to install
[09:28] <Keith> nemo_work: ok ty :)
[09:28] <h4ck3r> PriceChild I have been unable to do that in feisty
[09:29] <Konsole> xserver-xgl
[09:29] <h4ck3r> PriceChild but it works out of the box in 6.10
[09:29] <Gambit123456789> do you know what will help, PriceChild?
[09:29] <nemo_work> Keith: you know where to find it right?
[09:29] <Keith> nemo_work: no idea :)
[09:29] <Konsole> its been doing it on almost everything i install
[09:29] <iShock> stefg: That don't halp
[09:29] <Konsole> itll give me that error
[09:29] <stefg> iShock: it's nothing but a gnome them
[09:29] <nemo_work> Keith: you know where your firefox plugins dir is?
[09:29] <PriceChild> Gambit123456789, I would ask for help in ##windows
[09:30] <Gambit123456789> kk
[09:30] <profanephobia> gambit123456789: where does it stop and what does it say
[09:30] <Keith> nemo_work: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins?
[09:30] <genii> Konsole: Are you using ca.archive.ubuntu.com ? It was/may still be overloaded today
[09:30] <h4ck3r> PriceChild in feisty it basically can't see the card at all even with lshw it just shows as some pci card
[09:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Konsole: HAve you modified your sources or run any scripts like automatix or envy?
[09:30] <Going4Linux> help! how can i installe Internet Explorer 7 in ubuntu?
[09:30] <Keith> nemo_work: im a linux noob :)
[09:30] <Konsole> both
[09:30] <Konsole> automatix and envy both
[09:30] <PriceChild> h4ck3r, I don't know sorry, I've never had any experience with it.
[09:30] <nemo_work> Keith: that's probably right. there'd be the flash plugin or whatever. sometimes symlinks happen too, for organisational purposes due to the many gecko browsers
[09:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix
[09:30] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !envy
[09:30] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[09:30] <nemo_work> Keith: for example, some distros use /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins as a generic place - anyway, wherever your other plugins are
[09:31] <nemo_work> Keith:cd /to/your/plugin/dir;ln -s /opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so .
[09:31] <Keith> nemo_work: im not sure where they are tbh
[09:31] <Gambit123456789> You know when Grub starts up and you chose Ubuntu or another OS? The screen goes black and says "Starting Up..." for  a few seconds before Ubuntu loads? Well it does that for Windows but doesn't get beyond that point
[09:31] <h4ck3r> pricechild that is ok thanks for looking at my problem though
[09:31] <nemo_work> Keith: that's the generic one - but there might be an ubuntu package as mentioned
[09:31] <stenudd> Do Someone run SDL in here? cuz the function TTF_RenderText_Solid cant take Spaces in the second argument, but i shoud do it
[09:31] <stenudd> Do Someone run SDL in here? cuz the function TTF_RenderText_Solid cant take Spaces in the second argument, but i shoud do it
[09:31] <nemo_work> Keith: and of course the path to your JRE might be different than mine ;)
[09:31] <stenudd> If i put a space in there it wont show anything at all
[09:31] <profanephobia> gambit123465789: what version of windows
[09:31] <Keith> nemo_work: lol im getting a headache :)
[09:31] <h4ck3r> quit
[09:31] <h4ck3r> exit
[09:31] <BLZiN> Pricechild - i added a user on the NXserver but when i try setting a password it states....
[09:31] <nemo_work> Keith: alrighty. lemme dig up an ubuntu machine. one sec.
[09:31] <kuitang> Gambit: Congratulations
[09:32] <Keith> nemo_work: so i need my mozilla plugin dir?
[09:32] <BLZiN> Pricechild - NX> 500 Error: Function --<passwordhere> not implemented yet.
[09:32] <Keith> nemo_work: how can you dig up an ubuntu machine ;)
[09:32] <nemo_work> Keith: I'd search synaptic first, personally, to see  if there was a mozilla java plugin if I was you ;)
[09:32] <Konsole> jack read you private thing
[09:32] <nemo_work> Keith: found one.
[09:32] <Gambit123456789> Windows Vista
[09:32] <b4l74z4r> hw much ram can ubuntu feisty handle?
[09:32] <PriceChild> BLZiN, could you copy/paste me the command the wiki tells you to use... and then the command yuo are using
[09:33] <PriceChild> b4l74z4r, 4Gb at 32bit... a lot more at 64bit
[09:33] <BLZiN> sudo nxserver --adduser <username>
[09:33] <b4l74z4r> ok
[09:33] <pder> has anyone here used ubuntu for an arcade machine?  i want to build a mame cabinet and install ubuntu on the machine
[09:33] <nemo_work> Keith: yes, cd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[09:33] <BLZiN> sudo nxserver --passwd <username>
[09:33] <profanephobia> Gambit123465789: ok thought so windows vista uses its own bootloader thats very fragile (very fragile)
[09:33] <Konsole> Jack_sparrow: read you private messages
[09:33] <BLZiN> thats where it fails
[09:33] <Keith> nemo_work: ok im there
[09:33] <kahrytan> b4l74z4r: and Ubuntu runs nice on 512mb
[09:33] <nemo_work> Keith: ok. on this one, it looks like the java plugin was DEFINITELY installed by a package - but you can do it yourself if you want, I suppose
[09:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Konsole: I dont see any  and I am regg'd
[09:33] <Going4Linux> help! how can i installe Internet Explorer 7 in ubuntu?
[09:34] <b4l74z4r> what are the advantages of 64 bit vs 32?
[09:34] <nemo_work> Keith: otherwise, gimme a sec and I'll query the package system for what package it used
[09:34] <kuitang> Going4Linux: You don't
[09:34] <kahrytan> Going4Linux: appdb.winehq.com
[09:34] <BLZiN> Pricechild - did u get that bit ?
[09:34] <Konsole> Jack_Sparrow: on the side of xchat by #ubuntu
[09:34] <Konsole> lol
[09:34] <Keith> nemo_work: *over my head* lol
[09:34] <Gambit123456789> can i convo you profanephobia?
[09:34] <PriceChild> b4l74z4r, better performance with applications written for 64bit (not many.... ssh server, databases, not much else)
[09:34] <PriceChild> BLZiN, one second
[09:34] <kuitang> Going4Linux: Well, Wine *might* work; it'll work for ie 6 but you'll probably be in for a painful and disappoiting experience
[09:34] <BLZiN> k
[09:34] <profanephobia> yeah thats fine
[09:35] <b4l74z4r> would there be a performance penalty running 32bit apps on 64bit ubuntu?
[09:35] <profanephobia> going4linux: try this http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/news/41
[09:35] <nemo_work> Keith: using an ubuntu machine I maintain (kinda) for my mom :)  is 5000km away :)
[09:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Konsole: First, dont pm without asking second, I am not in xchat
[09:35] <Konsole> Jack_Sparrow: oh.. sorry about that then
[09:35] <PriceChild> BLZiN, You are changing those commands right? Not just pasting them in as it says
[09:35] <Keith> nemo_work: lol
[09:35] <profanephobia> Gambit123456789: sure thats fine but im afraid the only way i have been able to fix the vista bootloader was to reinstall vista
[09:36] <PriceChild> BLZiN, change <username> to something like bob
[09:36] <BLZiN> Pricechild - i think i see my error
[09:36] <PriceChild> BLZiN, and make sure it doesn't ask for something else before the next command
[09:36] <Keith> nemo_work: I take it your mum didnt install JRE :)
[09:36] <Konsole> Jack_Sparrow: ive never had any problems with envy or automatix it just started doing this like a week ago
[09:36] <Going4Linux> kuitang: man ;( ie7 is so much better then buggy firefox that always crashes on random sites
[09:36] <profanephobia> Gambit123456789:damn them for getting rid of DOS
[09:36] <profanephobia> DOS shell anyways
[09:36] <BLZiN> Pricechild - where it sais sudo nxserver --passwd <username> im actually putting a password instead of passwd
[09:36] <Gambit123456789> so basically you can't dual boot vista and linux??
[09:36] <profanephobia> you can
[09:36] <kuitang> Going4Linux: try Opera; I find it a lot better than ffox
[09:36] <profanephobia> i do
[09:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Konsole: YEp, sounds about right, you dont usually see the damage those do right away..
[09:36] <Keith> yes you can
[09:36] <PriceChild> BLZiN, ah yes don't change that ;)
[09:36] <BLZiN> Pricechild - gotcha
[09:37] <Keith> why anyone would want to boot vista is another question :)
[09:37] <Gambit123456789> how>
[09:37] <profanephobia> lol
[09:37] <nemo_work> Keith: she probably did actually
[09:37] <nemo_work> Keith: I don't remember installing it.  She probably found it in package manager
[09:37] <Keith> nemo_work: *bows down* to your mum lol
[09:37] <profanephobia> Gambit123465789: do you have two separate hdds
[09:37] <Gambit123456789> i do
[09:37] <Konsole> Jack_Sparrow: so..how exactly do i fix the problem it says... that dpkg is returning the error
[09:37] <profanephobia> Gambit123456789: is vista on your primary hdd
[09:38] <Gambit123456789> yup
[09:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Konsole: If you read what the bot said... reinstall and dnot use those scripts
[09:38] <Going4Linux> kuitang: i dont like opera its kinda ugly and dont got any proper adblocking stuff except their hals assed ini that makes you restart opera to make sucky changes..
[09:38] <Keith> nemo_work: Can I not find it in package manager? whatever that is, it sounds a lot more easy :)
[09:38] <Konsole> Jack_Sparrow: what scripts it was the same commands to install them as i always use which is also provided in their websites
[09:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource > Konsole
[09:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Konsole: nOT TRUE
[09:39] <profanephobia> Gambit123456789: do you have the vista disk?
[09:39] <kuitang> Going4Linux: really?  The newer versions have Content Blocker; granted not quite as good as adblock but it's speed makes up for it
[09:39] <nemo_work> Keith: I did suggest that. poke around. should be there
[09:39] <Gambit123456789> yup i do
[09:39] <Gambit123456789> you not getting my private msgs?
[09:39] <BLZiN> Pricechild - ok so now i have NXSERVER installed on ubuntu box with user and password, from my home pc (win os) i tryed connecting with NXCLIENT and it wont connect (very annoying) been tryin this for over 2hrs any ideas plz  ?
[09:40] <kahrytan> Going4Linux: Use Firefox then
[09:40] <nemo_work> hey folks. reason I can't answer keith immediately is I can't figure out the debian/ubuntu command to learn what package a file belongs to
[09:40] <Gambit123456789> cuz i'm getting yours...
[09:40] <Konsole> Jack_Sparrow: so what exactly do i do just uninstall auto and envy?
[09:40] <Going4Linux> kahrytan: i dont want to, it always crashes
[09:40] <nemo_work> in this case, /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[09:40] <kahrytan> Going4Linux: no it doesnt
[09:40] <nickrud> nemo_work, dpkg -S /path/to/file
[09:40] <nemo_work> thanks
[09:40] <PriceChild> BLZiN, what error?
[09:40] <profanephobia> gabmit123456789: you have to be registered to send pm.. boot to the vista disk and select repair then tell it to repair the boot section... there should be a button
[09:40] <BLZiN> Pricechild - session timed out
[09:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Konsole: Good luck.. I can't / won't  help once you run those.  The uninstall.. dosent do everything you would hope
[09:40] <nemo_work> ah. that's just j2re. hm
[09:41] <kahrytan> Going4Linux: You need help fixing firefox
[09:41] <Gambit123456789> ok, i'll try that now and see if that works...tnx man :)
[09:41] <nickrud> nemo_work, if the file isn't installed, either packages.ubuntu.com or apt-file
[09:41] <Going4Linux> kahrytan: it crashes on sites that plays videos that is not flash-ed
[09:41] <BLZiN> Pricechild - $AGENT_STARTUP_TIMEOUT; exit 1 )
[09:41] <BLZiN> NX> 504 Session startup failed.
[09:41] <BLZiN> NX> 1004 Error: nxagent failed to start with: Unrecognized option: 1
[09:41] <BLZiN> NX> 1001 Bye.
[09:41] <BLZiN> Killed by signal 15.
[09:41] <profanephobia> Gambit123456789: welcome
[09:41] <nemo_work> nickrud: well, this is puzzling, she clearly used some package to create the symlink
[09:41] <kahrytan> !spam | BLZiN:
[09:41] <ubotu> BLZiN:: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[09:41] <PriceChild> BLZiN, oh so the server doesnt start up?
[09:41] <BLZiN> No not spam thats my error
[09:41] <PriceChild> BLZiN, not that the client can't connect?
[09:41] <nemo_work> nickrud: I sure wouldn't link /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so to /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[09:41] <nickrud> nemo_work, if it's java from the repos, sudo update-alternatives --config java sets the links
[09:41] <Keith> nemo_work: I just checked my system preferences, and I have sun java 6 control panel and sun java 6 policy tool, so it looks like it definately installed ok? I guess i just need an Sym link to it for firefox?
[09:42] <profanephobia> Going4Linux: what are you trying to view that you need IE 7 for.. there may be a workaround
[09:42] <nemo_work> nickrud: sweeet
[09:42] <nickrud> nemo_work, I would :)
[09:42] <PriceChild> BLZiN, i think kahrytan was referring to using a pastebin.
[09:42] <BLZiN> Pricechild - through putty the server is running fine its the client wont connect
[09:42] <BLZiN> my bad :(
[09:42] <nemo_work> Keith: heya. listen to nickcrud here, he knows his stuff
[09:42] <nemo_work> nickrud: but why'd Keith's links not get preinstalled?
[09:42] <nemo_work> nickrud: why make a user do that?
[09:42] <nemo_work> nickrud: oh. wait. does that set the /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins symlink?
[09:42] <nickrud> nemo_work, because you can have more than one java installed, who's to say which one he wants active at any one time?
[09:42] <Going4Linux> profanephobia: not crash when i enter sites at random stuff? zoom function to zoom up pages, working adblock like ie7pro
[09:43] <PriceChild> BLZiN, so you're trying to connect on port 22?
[09:43] <nemo_work> nickrud: no no - that part makes sense ;)  although gentoo approaches the issue a bit differently
[09:43] <nickrud> nemo_work, I believe so, yes. I've never set those specifically
[09:43] <Keith> nickrud: im on a fresh install of ubuntu, and only installed sun-java6-plugin
[09:43] <Konsole> how do i switch my sources.list with a backup says i dont have the permission
[09:43] <BLZiN> Pricechild - Yes
[09:43] <Anlar> Going4Linux: you ever noticed how suspicious ie7pro is? there's something really bad going on with that add-on, must be
[09:43] <nemo_work> Keith: welp, what he said then. update-alternatives and all that
[09:43] <nemo_work> Keith: otherwise, symlink!
[09:43] <ge2x> !compiz-fusion
[09:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz-fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:43] <PriceChild> BLZiN, and I guess normal ssh is working as you're using putty... :P
[09:43] <BLZiN> lol yup
[09:43] <profanephobia> going4linux: ok... firefox works great for me but are you 64bit by anychance
[09:43] <ge2x> !compizfusion
[09:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compizfusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:44] <kahrytan> Konsole: You need to use gksudo in alt-f2 or sudo in console
[09:44] <nemo_work> Keith: looks like nickrud thinks it should have happened automagically - I wonder why it didn't.
[09:44] <Keith> nemo_work: nickrud: what is the command i need?
[09:44] <Konsole> how do i edit my sources?
[09:44] <nickrud> Keith, then there's a --config for that, libjavaplugin_oji.so
[09:44] <Going4Linux> profanephobia: no i dont like 64-bit not much works there in either windows nor linux
[09:44] <BLZiN> Pricechild - sorry for all these questions, im ok once i done things once but its imposs when ya dont no how ya na i mean
[09:44] <Keith> nickrud: yes i saw that earlier somewhere :)
[09:45] <compengi> Konsole, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:45] <PriceChild> BLZiN, hehe yeah... especially when the guy who's "helping" hasn't either...  Some are done in sets (like the man pages), I'm not up on just which are grouped otherwise
[09:45] <LinuxKid> hy
[09:45] <Keith> jrib: yes
[09:45] <BLZiN> Pricechild - PMSL
[09:45] <LinuxKid> how i get a antiscanner
[09:45] <PriceChild> BLZiN, pmsl?
[09:45] <LinuxKid> somebody scan me
[09:45] <profanephobia> going4linux: you couldnt be more right about that... do you know what type of content is trying to load before the brwser crashes
[09:45] <Keith> hmm the plot thickens
[09:45] <BLZiN> Pricechild - pissing myself laughing
[09:46] <BLZiN> Pricechild - another version of LOL i spose
[09:46] <Going4Linux> profanephobia: sites with embeded videos that isnt "in flash" or "in shockware"
[09:46] <Anlar> Going4Linux: what plugin handles those?
[09:46] <BLZiN> can anybody help my NXCLIENT connect to my NXSERVER plz?
[09:46] <Going4Linux> Anlar: dunno.. its firefox..
[09:46] <profanephobia> going4linux: so like wmv or shit
[09:47] <PriceChild> BLZiN, you're absolutely sure that the server is running?
[09:47] <Hibame> Does ubuntu support wireless adapters?
[09:47] <Going4Linux> those sites works just fine in internet explorer 7
[09:47] <profanephobia> Hibame: yes
[09:47] <Going4Linux> thats why i want ie7 in linux
[09:47] <compengi> Hibame, sure
[09:47] <BLZiN> Pricechild - i had to restart it in that guide it successfully said service stopped and service started
[09:47] <Hibame> Know where I can get some drivers to make it work?
[09:47] <Anlar> Going4Linux: I have no idea why, but the totem plugin is 20x more stable (never crashes browser no matter what) with Epiphany.. with firefox it just sucks, and you'd better off with mplayer-plugin perhaps
[09:47] <LinuxKid> nickrud: ?
[09:47] <kahrytan> Going4Linux: You try using VideoLAN (VLC)?
[09:47] <PriceChild> BLZiN, hmm ok
[09:47] <nickrud> LinuxKid, I scanned you, carefully ;)
[09:48] <Going4Linux> i dont know what firefox uses to show non-flash videos
[09:48] <LinuxKid> :)
[09:48] <jrib> Going4Linux: totem by default
[09:48] <nemo_work> jrib: oooh, yes, and that is soooo annoying
[09:48] <Anlar> Going4Linux: about:plugins tells btw that information
[09:48] <socketbind> did anyone had luck with installing feisty on a hp nx9420?
[09:48] <nemo_work> jrib: mplayerplug-in does a much better job, and after you install it, the two have fun slugging it out for about:plugins slots
[09:48] <eifzon> I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 from the alternate CD. I installed my disk as LVM and reiserfs, is that a good format? I got a Seagate 500GB SATA2 16MB Cache.
[09:48] <kahrytan> Going4Linux: VLC has all the codecs you need w/o trying to install them all.
[09:48] <nemo_work> jrib: wish I could figure out how to disable the totem plugins for firefox, besides doing it manually
[09:48] <ceccaaan> I have a problem with videos, no picture, only sound. I've tried both VLC and the integrated movie player
[09:48] <kuitang> reiserfs is fine, but not the most reliable
[09:48] <Pb2006> hello ! i just installed ubuntu on my laptop (dell xps m1210) but i don`t get any menus in the graphical interface, i am totaly new to linux, does anyone know how i can adjust the resolution ?
[09:48] <LinuxKid> nickrud: what can i do
[09:48] <profanephobia> going4linux: just give me one of thee sites that makes you crash
[09:49] <jrib> nemo_work: just remove the package for the totem plugin
[09:49] <Going4Linux> kahrytan: vlc doesnt work well in vista, neither does firefox.. buggy programs
[09:49] <nemo_work> jrib: oh. there's a totem plugin package? thought it was in main totem
[09:49] <Going4Linux> profanephobia: i usually never re-visit them since they crash me
[09:49] <profanephobia> vlc worked in vista for me
[09:49] <jrib> nemo_work: totem-mozilla
[09:49] <nemo_work> jrib: sweet. thanks.
[09:49] <nickrud> LinuxKid, what do you mean my an anti-scanner?
[09:49] <Going4Linux> profanephobia: picture are too dark in vlc for me
[09:49] <Anlar> socketbind: you should update the bios first, that laptop has problems with older versions
[09:49] <BLZiN> Pricechild - in the guide it has sommit about changing ssh port to 8888 instead of 22 this i didnt do because i thought 22 would be fine maybe ill try that
[09:49] <Going4Linux> profanephobia: or to horrible performance like 1fps
[09:49] <PriceChild> BLZiN, well it should be fine as you already connected by it
[09:50] <jrib> Keith: is someone helping you?
[09:50] <LinuxKid> nickrud: pff
[09:50] <LinuxKid> nickrud: when you have a virus you need a antivirus
[09:50] <LinuxKid> nickrud: something like this
[09:51] <Anlar> socketbind: after updating the bios to newest version it should work
[09:51] <nickrud> LinuxKid, I don't worry about viruses
[09:51] <socketbind> Anlar: thank you
[09:51] <LinuxKid> nickrut : this was a example
[09:51] <profanephobia> going4linux: try this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/running-internet-explorer-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[09:51] <Pb2006> please help, first time linux user
[09:51] <tom_> ???  Does anyone know the current firewire driver status as to how soon Pro audio firewire interfaces such as M-Audio or Edirol connects might be up and working?
[09:51] <profanephobia> pb2006; whats the prob
[09:52] <Enselic> Pb2006: I recomend the introductional documentation at ubuntu.com
[09:52] <Going4Linux> profanephobia: i dont want ie 4 its old
[09:52] <BLZiN> Pricechild - yeah i did it anyway defo not that changing port bk to 22
[09:52] <Savage-{> anybody know where the fix is for the flash images overlapping some web menus that open up under the flash images?
[09:52] <nemo_work> Savage-{: there is an alteration that must be made in the flash files
[09:52] <kahrytan> Savage-{: Bug
[09:53] <Savage-{> ah ok
[09:53] <Pb2006> profanephobia: well i installed ubuntu, and everything was fine, but then after reboot the picture does not fit the screen and the gnome "start" menu is not showing .. all i can do i change the background picture ..
[09:53] <kahrytan> Savage-{: It happens to me too
[09:53] <Keith> jrib: no, im pretty stuck right now
[09:53] <eifzon> I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 from the alternate CD. I installed my disk as LVM and reiserfs, is that a good format? I got a Seagate 500GB SATA2 16MB Cache.
[09:53] <nickrud> LinuxKid, there are things that watch for attacks, like tripwire,portsentry, snort, but since I don't admin something open to the net, I don't worry much
[09:53] <jrib> Keith: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[09:53] <nemo_work> kahrytan: there was a web page I ran into once that described how to fix flash files to not do that, but I never use flash, so never really cared
[09:53] <nemo_work> Savage-{: flashblock ! :)
[09:53] <kohak> hmm maybe it the screen. use your monitor buttons to change the settings
[09:54] <kahrytan> nemo_work: do tell us all
[09:54] <nemo_work> Savage-{: most of the time the flash is junk anyway, just use flash click-to-play
[09:54] <Twofclubs> why do i get "The Composite extension is not available" when i try to launch the desktop effects under feisty
[09:54] <kahrytan> nemo_work: youtube ....
[09:54] <Pb2006> profanephobia: ita a laptop btw ..
[09:54] <LinuxKid> nickrud: pff
[09:54] <Keith> nemo_work: thanks for all your help, very much appreciated :)
[09:54] <nemo_work> kahrytan: and in that case, one extra click is not a huge cost
[09:54] <kohak> has anyone try to install doom?
[09:54] <Enselic> Twofclubs: probably because there are no drivers for you graphics card
[09:54] <nemo_work> Keith: well, trying to help. nickcrude was clearly more helpful
[09:54] <Savage-{> what is flashblock?
[09:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Going4Linux:      ies4linux will break your WIne INstallation.. Ask in WineHQ before trying it
[09:54] <LinuxKid> nickrud: i dont understand very good english
[09:55] <okanturkey> hil all channel
[09:55] <nemo_work> Savage-{: firefox extension, replaces all flash with a play button
[09:55] <profanephobia> IE will break anything
[09:55] <BLZiN> can nobdy help me out here tryin get nxclient to connect to nxserver
[09:55] <Twofclubs> Enselic: i though i installed those today
[09:55] <Going4Linux> Jack_Sparrow: wine buggy?
[09:55] <Savage-{> ok cool
[09:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Going4Linux: NOpe.. that script
[09:55] <nemo_work> Savage-{: flash doesn't load until you click it - if a site has hidden flash, you can whitelist that site specially
[09:55] <Twofclubs> Enselic: is there a command to check and see
[09:55] <okanturkey> aran0131zda H0130 BULGAR TRK  YOKMU
[09:55] <nemo_work> Savage-{: gmail, for example, uses hidden flash for the little ping sound google chat inside gmail uses - that one I had to whitelist
[09:55] <Going4Linux> why linux so complex? linux should be more userfriendly like windows imo
[09:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Going4Linux:  WInehq has better info on IE
[09:55] <PriceChild> !tr | okanturkey
[09:55] <ubotu> okanturkey: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[09:55] <tarzeau> Going4Linux: it's not complex
[09:56] <tarzeau> Going4Linux: it's just way more transparent
[09:56] <nemo_work> Going4Linux: what can be friendlier than a package manager?
[09:56] <tarzeau> Going4Linux: and some are not used to that
[09:56] <Enselic> Going4Linux: what do you tink makes it complex?
[09:56] <profanephobia> wow
[09:56] <Enselic> Twofclubs: nope, sorry
[09:56] <profanephobia> he got drilled
[09:56] <nemo_work> I hate maintaing windows installs - although, someone recently created a package manager-ish thingy for windows :)
[09:56] <PriceChild> Going4Linux, This is not support related. I would ask you and anyone else in this conversation go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:56] <Gambit123456781> I tried that profanphobia, but when it went to check for errors it didn't return any...
[09:56] <nemo_work> Savage-{: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/433
[09:56] <ceccaaan> I have a problem with videos, no picture, only sound. I've tried both VLC and the integrated movie player. I have all the plugins..
[09:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Going4Linux: It is friendly, you are trying to run programs from another os.. See how friendly Windows is at running linux programs
[09:56] <ttt-> hi, in ssh, how do i copy a local directory to the remote directory?
[09:56] <Savage-{> I got it thx
[09:56] <Going4Linux> Enselic: trying to find all those hundered config files that isnt placed in the same folder like the next dist
[09:56] <profanephobia> pricechild: he was asking a question jesus
[09:56] <Going4Linux> Jack_Sparrow: vista got support for unix stuff
[09:56] <PriceChild> !offtopic | profanephobia
[09:56] <kahrytan> nemo_work: I try to keep my extension to a minimal. Slows down firefox
[09:56] <ubotu> profanephobia: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:57] <eifzon> Anyone here running LVM/reiserfs?
[09:57] <nemo_work> kahrytan: this one will speed it up :-p
[09:57] <nemo_work> kahrytan: since the flash isn't loading
[09:57] <Enselic> Going4Linux: sorry, we have to keep these discussions out of this supprt channel
[09:57] <profanephobia> bastards like you that make me hate the internet
[09:57] <nemo_work> kahrytan: also improves stability since plugins are major source of instability
[09:57] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[09:57] <compengi> Twigathy, what is your output for "glxinfo | grep direct"
[09:57] <nemo_work> kahrytan: the added code to firefox is extremely minimal
[09:57] <Twigathy> huh?
[09:57] <PriceChild> profanephobia, please watch the language and don't attack users of this channel.
[09:57] <kahrytan> nemo_work: startup time
[09:57] <Anlar> Going4Linux: actually most of the config files are in same places due LSB, and you usually don't have to edit them anyways nowadays
[09:57] <nemo_work> compengi: heh. you meant dude with no picture right? :)
[09:57] <mroc> quick question - i installed the openclipart package.....where did all that clipart end up?
[09:58] <EADG_> ttt-: Look into sshfs, lets you mount remote systems locally, easy to set up.
[09:58] <nemo_work> kahrytan: meh. assure you, flash block is very very minimal as extensions go
[09:58] <Gambit123456781> is there some programme i can install to act as a boot manager between linux and windows?
[09:58] <Going4Linux> Anlar: LSB? and how to get READ graphics drivers to work without edit thet xorg file and reboot linux?
[09:58] <Enselic> mroc: did you install it through a .deb?
[09:58] <tarzeau> Gambit123456781: grub?
[09:58] <ge2x> !ubuntu-standard
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-standard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <gravemind> every 20 minutes or so, the screen starts to dim and tries to turn off! How do I disable this 'feature?'
[09:58] <Kejan> how do I get my SD/MMC card reader to work??
[09:58] <mroc> Enselic: yeah, apt-get
[09:58] <Twofclubs> Enselic: My driver's are fine, i updated them today http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31454/
[09:58] <Enselic> Gambit123456781: VMware?
[09:58] <compengi> nemo_work, lol, not really maybe his video card doesn't support effects such as "beryl"
[09:58] <genii> !ubuntu-desktop | ge2x
[09:58] <Enselic> mroc: dkpg -L package-name     will give you files
[09:58] <ubotu> ge2x: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[09:59] <Gambit123456781> grub aint loading windows for me tho
[09:59] <Anlar> Going4Linux: there's no xorg.config on newest versions at all, it's automatic. and you don't have to reboot, just ctrl-alt-backspace is enough :)
[09:59] <Enselic> mroc: you can also graphically find out by using Synaptic if you prefer
[09:59] <mroc> Enselic: ok, great.  thanks.
[09:59] <kahrytan> nemo_work: You still gonna use flashblock when adobes fixes the bug?
[09:59] <ttt-> EADG_: cant it be done with ssh?
[09:59] <Gambit123456781> whats this, VMware you speak of, Enselic?
[09:59] <compengi> Twigathy, enter the command i wrote you in the terminal then enter
[09:59] <Going4Linux> Anlar: thats reboot the gui, i thought linux never had reboots
[09:59] <nemo_work> kahrytan: absolutely
[09:59] <Enselic> Gambit123456781: it allows you to run Windows within Linux, or vice versa
[09:59] <profanephobia> gambit123456789: if the vista bootloader is messed up and the cd couldnt fix it your best bet is  to reinstall vista
[09:59] <Twigathy> compengi: uh, why?
[09:59] <ttt-> EADG_: i just need to copy this one directory
[09:59] <Twigathy> I haven't spoken in this channel for...ages >_<
[09:59] <Enselic> Gambit123456781: so you don't have to reboot to switch OS
[09:59] <EADG_> ttt-: scp I believe, not sure of the syntax though.
[09:59] <ttt-> ok thanks
[09:59] <nemo_work> kahrytan: again, as mentioned, flash loading when I don't want it is a waste of bandwidth, page rendering, speed, and a major cause of instability
[09:59] <compengi> Twigathy, to check if your card supports it
[09:59] <kahrytan> nemo_work: Flash makes websites more usable though
[10:00] <Twigathy> Also, I'm not at the machine. So from here I get "unable to open display" ;)
[10:00] <Anlar> Going4Linux: mu.
[10:00] <kahrytan> nemo_work: bandwidth cap?
[10:00] <Gambit123456781> cool, where can i get my hands on that, Enselic?
[10:00] <nemo_work> kahrytan: that latter would be fixed by better isolation of plugin from main program
[10:00] <Twigathy> compengi: I think you've got the wrong person on tab complete
[10:00] <Twigathy> compengi: but I know my machine does support it. I run Beryl.
[10:00] <nemo_work> kahrytan: but while they had talked about that for ff3, it didn't make it in
[10:00] <Enselic> Gambit123456781: hang on, I'll give you a link
[10:00] <gravemind> every 20 minutes or so, the screen starts to dim and tries to turn off! How do I disable this 'feature' ?
[10:00] <Keith> nemo_work: thanks once again, I got it working :)
[10:00] <nemo_work> kahrytan: so, even in ff3 I'll keep using it
[10:00] <Twofclubs> When i try to open Desktop Effects, i get the following error "The Composite extension is not available"...i updated my ati drivers today, anyone know why i cannot launch desktop effects?
[10:00] <Keith> nemo_work: I had to sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin
[10:00] <kahrytan> nemo_work: You sure it's nore ff and not plugin itself?
[10:01] <Going4Linux> Anlar: mu? are you a cow now?
[10:01] <nemo_work> Keith: ah! it is a separate package!
[10:01] <kahrytan> *note
[10:01] <kahrytan> *not
[10:01] <nemo_work> kahrytan: the issue with the crashing? well, hard to say. that's one of this immaterial questions
[10:01] <Enselic> Gambit123456781: this will get you started: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Player
[10:01] <nemo_work> kahrytan: plugins cause instability. who's at fault is irrelevant to the fact that they do.
[10:01] <Gambit123456781> tnx :)
[10:01] <nemo_work> kahrytan: until they don't, I will use stuff like flash click to play
[10:01] <live> AA
[10:01] <kahrytan> nemo_work: I mean the flash overlay issue.
[10:01] <kuitang> Those dellbuntus--are they a good deal?  The specs seem good.
[10:01] <nemo_work> kahrytan: flash itself should not be critical to a website anyway, my opinion of any site that depends on it goes down :)
[10:01] <ge2x> !ubuntu-desktop
[10:01] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[10:02] <Optimus55> can i format some free space into a fat32 drive from within ubuntu? without booting back into live cd
[10:02] <nemo_work> kahrytan: oh that? yeah, possibly, I just noted it is fixable in flash movies.
[10:02] <nemo_work> kahrytan: and since I block the flash, I don't much care
[10:02] <nemo_work> oh well. back to work stuff. later y'all
[10:02] <kahrytan> nemo_work: can plugin fix or mozilla?
[10:02] <gravemind> How do I disable the thing that turns the screen off if I'm inactive?
[10:03] <Enselic> !vmware > Gambit123456781 probably even a better start
[10:03] <Anlar> Going4Linux: read on http://dict.die.net/mu/ :)
[10:03] <Enselic> gravemind: System -> Preferences -> Powermanagemtn or similar
[10:03] <Kejan> Anyone know how to get a TI1620 5-1 card reader going??
[10:04] <gravemind> Enselic: I found that and set both to 'never' however it still does iut
[10:04] <Enselic> Kejan: yes, chances are you only need to load some modules
[10:04] <Going4Linux> can i get outlook to work in linux too? its great program
[10:04] <Kejan> I tried 2 websites and still now work.
[10:04] <Kejan> sorry...still doesn't work
[10:04] <gravemind> Enselic: ah, perhaps it's trying to start the screensaver
[10:04] <Enselic> gravemind: that's strange... what version are you on?
[10:04] <kuitang> Going4Linux: Once again, older versions might work in Wine; don't bet on it.
[10:05] <gravemind> Enselic: feisty, with updates
[10:05] <Optimus55> does ubuntu have a built in drive format option, similar to disk management?
[10:05] <brunner> is it normal for the mysql client to install without adding items to the gnome menu?
[10:05] <demonstealer> how do i connect to a wifi connection?
[10:05] <gravemind> Enselic: I disabled the screen saver, now I'm going to test it
[10:05] <kahrytan> Going4Linux: Why do you insist in using Windows programs?
[10:05] <Going4Linux> kuitang: meh, always old version. IE4.. how old outlook?
[10:05] <gravemind> demonstealer: use network manager
[10:05] <Going4Linux> kahrytan: they are better.. more stable
[10:05] <kuitang> Going4Linux: I don't know; 2000 or XP probably
[10:05] <kahrytan> Going4Linux: and more insecure
[10:05] <Optimus55> Going4Linux: Try Thunderbird.. its decent
[10:06] <Enselic> brunner: rightclick and Edit Menus, it might be hidden
[10:06] <Kejan> can anyone answer why vers. 2.6.20-15 works for TI card read and 2.6.20-16 doesn't??
[10:06] <hypn0> Going4Linux: then why are you using linux at all :-)
[10:06] <kuitang> brunner: use, you admin with mysql on the console
[10:06] <Going4Linux> Optimus55: its firefox stuff, no good..
[10:06] <Optimus55> Going4Linux: whys that?
[10:06] <Enselic> Going4Linux: windows programs on *Linux* is not more stable then Linux programs on Linux...
[10:06] <Going4Linux> hypn0: well, i read this site http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/ and thought i should testit
[10:06] <parag> Hi, Can anybody suggest me "all in one free linux apliance" with Proxy + firewall + fax + email everything....?
[10:06] <brunner> Going4Linux: have you tried Evolution?
[10:07] <Going4Linux> brunner: no but i saw the movie, good one
[10:07] <hypn0> Going4Linux: you can test it with linux programs can't you :-/
[10:07] <Optimus55> Going4Linux: x_X
[10:07] <kahrytan> Going4Linux: There is other Gecko based browsers
[10:07] <parag> Hi, Can anybody suggest me "all in one free linux apliance" with Proxy + firewall + fax + email everything....?
[10:07] <kuitang> parag: use apache/squid for proxy, iptables firewall, idk fax, sendmail/postfix/exim email
[10:07] <kahrytan> Going4Linux: Epiphany is one of them
[10:07] <BLZiN> HELLO houston are u recieving over
[10:07] <BLZiN> :P
[10:08] <parag> I need complete appliance like kirux
[10:08] <BLZiN> HELP!
[10:08] <Anlar> Going4Linux: you know, linux isn't really better. it is just a tool, and your needs dictate what is better and what you should use.
[10:08] <Pici> !ask
[10:08] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:08] <erUSUL> !help | BLZiN
[10:08] <kuitang> Going4Linux: though Outlook may be a 'great program,' there's many much better ones (I just use pine)
[10:08] <ubotu> BLZiN: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:08] <tarzeau> BLZiN: http://halp.istheshit.net/ :)
[10:08] <BLZiN> i did bout three times
[10:08] <Anlar> Going4Linux: if you feel that Windows is better, then stick with it :)
[10:08] <Going4Linux> kuitang: i want some fancy gui ;>
[10:08] <Enselic> !patience
[10:08] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:08] <supaneko> Could someone tell me what command to use in Terminal to restart mythbackend?
[10:08] <Optimus55> hey does anyone know if i cant format a new drive from within ubuntu without booting to live cd?
[10:08] <kuitang> Going4Linux: Compared to mailx, pine *is* a fancy gui
[10:08] <kahrytan> Going4Linux: and Thunder has spam blocking