[01:13] <smoser> harlowja, argparse is really wierd on centos i know that ot be true.
[01:13] <harlowja> def
[01:13] <smoser> i'm not sure if we really depend on cheetah any where else or not.
[01:13] <smoser> i really ahve to run... sorry.
[01:13] <harlowja> np
[01:13] <smoser> i'm wliling to listen tomorrow
[07:26] <cpaelzer> smoser: hi, today I have had a few uvt based kvms that stalled infinitely not getting /var/lib/cloud/instance/boot-finished created
[07:27] <cpaelzer> smoser: known issue / not an issue / worth to report / worth to debug ?
[10:49] <ffledgling> Hello, quick question about creating users and groups with cloud-init, is it possible to specify the GID and UID numbers as well?
[10:49] <ffledgling> I don't see it in the syntax/examples
[11:25] <ffledgling> https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1396362
[11:26] <ffledgling> Looks like there was a patch but it wasn't merged
[12:34] <smoser> cpaelzer, hm.. no. not to my knowledge.
[12:35] <cpaelzer> smoser: ok, then I'll at least check how reproducible that is ... just a sec should be fast
[12:35] <smoser> cpaelzer, it seems likely it is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1623868
[12:38] <cpaelzer> reproducible
[12:40] <cpaelzer> smoser: no mine has that service properly starting http://paste.ubuntu.com/23181982/
[12:41] <cpaelzer> I seem to match the second comment with the inactive cloud-init.target
[12:44] <smoser> cpaelzer, can you get journalctl ?
[12:45] <cpaelzer> smoser: yes
[12:45] <cpaelzer> I can log in and check all I need
[12:45] <cpaelzer> currently writing bug update
[12:45] <cpaelzer> but the more you help me to debug the more I can help
[12:45] <smoser> cpaelzer, see in ubuntu-devel
[17:48] <harlowja> nrezinorn smoser ok its tommorow!
[17:48] <harlowja> lol
[17:48]  * harlowja thinks nrezinorn wants to destroy brpm and replace it with the raw spec files
[17:50] <smoser> suck
[17:50] <harlowja> lol
[17:50]  * smoser shakes fist at time
[17:51] <harlowja> nrezinorn is making a list of naughty things
[17:52] <smoser> harlowja, what do you need ?
[17:52] <harlowja> lol
[17:52] <harlowja> let's see
[17:52] <harlowja> i'd like a milk shake
[17:55] <harlowja> let's see when nrezinorn gets around
[21:32] <mgagne> smoser: cloud-init 0.7.8-1-g3705bb5-0ubuntu1~16.04.1 works fine for me
[21:56] <harlowja> smoser  if u get some time https://code.launchpad.net/~harlowja/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/305882
[21:57] <harlowja> nrezinorn saw init-cloud-local blowup with a invalid argument on reading from /sys
[21:57] <harlowja> i'm thinking we need to catch those, due to weird reading issues at that early of boot
[21:57] <harlowja> [    4.405675] cloud-init[271]: File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/cloudinit/util.py", line 1242, in pipe_in_out
[21:57] <harlowja> [    4.406060] cloud-init[271]: data = in_fh.read(chunk_size)
[21:57] <harlowja> [    4.407056] cloud-init[271]: IOError: [Errno 22] Invalid argument
[21:57] <harlowja> [    4.407377] cloud-init[271]: --------------------------------------
[21:57] <harlowja> thats weird ...
[21:57] <harlowja> because its always 1024, lol
[21:57] <harlowja> so pretty sure its masking some other issue
[21:58] <harlowja> catching IOErrors should be fine though
[21:58] <harlowja> the rest of traceback is around https://git.launchpad.net/cloud-init/tree/cloudinit/net/__init__.py?id=0.7.7#n145
[22:00] <harlowja> does that remind u of anything?


[05:03] <lazyPower> so, this is disappointing. I think i broke maas on a fresh trusty install :(
[05:05] <lazyPower> ah, found it
[05:05] <lazyPower> https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1298559
[05:06] <Jeffrey_> Is a MaaS node supposed to install and then restart after allocating to a user?
[05:11] <lazyPower> It should only install and restart after enlisting
[05:11] <lazyPower> then subsequent boots during allocation - they pxe boot, flash the cloudimage, and should stay running
[05:11] <lazyPower> at least thats how my VMAAS setup worked
[19:22] <lazyPower> I've got a question about MAAS node enlistment with iscsi, it appears I may have broken something? What is the dependent service for iscsi to load the images?
[19:22] <lazyPower> i thought they were delivered via TFTP
[20:37] <lazyPower> well, some debugging effort yielded that the hosts port 3260 closes the connection as soon as its initiated
[22:49] <AskUbuntu> A newbie question on MaaS | http://askubuntu.com/q/443834


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[06:34] <smoser> dojordan: https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/view/cloud-init/job/cloud-init-ci-nightly/
[06:34] <smoser> that is nightly runs. the #260 was a platform failure unrelated to cloud-init it looks like.
[06:42] <smoser> powersj: 2018-03-07 06:41:50,707 - tests.cloud_tests - ERROR - stage: collect for platform: lxd encountered error: 'Operation' object has no attribute 'description'
[06:42] <smoser> that make any sense to you ?
[06:42] <powersj> uhhh no
[06:44] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/64jsHzV4bh/
[06:45] <powersj> lxd           3.0.0.beta3
[06:45]  * smoser recreates tox
[06:45] <smoser> yeah.
[06:45] <powersj> how long have you been running 3.0?
[06:45] <powersj> I'm wondering if pylxd and lxd are out of sync again
[06:45] <smoser> i have no idea, but that was my first question too
[08:44] <smoser> do3meli: you there ?
[08:47] <do3meli> smose: sure i am ;-)
[08:49] <smoser> we have a integration test harness
[08:49] <smoser> and it has a salt minion test.
[08:49] <smoser> it does not run by default, but is currently failing
[08:49] <smoser> before i merged your changes i wanted to make sure that it was running (which is how i found it fails)
[08:49] <smoser> we dont run it by default because (I think) we did not want to depend on 3rd party
[08:50] <smoser> so...
[08:50] <smoser> what i'm asking is that we need to kind of get that sorted, and verify that your change will work (or should work) with theintegration tets
[08:50] <smoser> would you be interested in taking a look at that ? i can point you at how to run and suc.
[08:51] <smoser> a vm with ubuntu and lxd is the easiest way to set up that environment
[08:52]  * smoser wonders if he scared do3meli away
[08:57] <do3meli> haha. no still here. no worries.
[09:01] <do3meli> i am happy to help with that integration test but would require you to point me into the right direction: a) in which file are those tests define? b) ho to run the integration test? and c) are there any docs describing how to setup an integration test env?
[09:02] <smoser> do3meli: http://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/tests.html
[09:02] <smoser> that is the doc we have on interation test.
[09:03] <smoser> i just ran
[09:03] <smoser>  tox-venv citest python3 -m tests.cloud_tests run --platform=lxd --os-name=xenial --preserve-data --data-dir=results.lxd.d --verbose --test=tests/cloud_tests/testcases/modules/salt_minion.py
[09:03] <smoser> and saw the failure
[09:03] <smoser> 'tox-venv' is in ./tools/ but it is basically just a "run this command in the tox venv". you could also do...
[09:03] <smoser> tox -e citest run --platform=lxd --os-name=xenial --preserve-data --data-dir=results.lxd.d --verbose --test=tests/cloud_tests/testcases/modules/salt_minion.py
[09:04] <smoser> oh. in order to *run* that test you have to http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FVF8VvPkcY/
[09:05] <do3meli> smoser: you run this command in a freshly new installed ubuntu vm after cloning the git. is that correct?
[09:11] <do3meli> which ubuntu vm image did you use? cloud? server? desktop?
[09:12] <smoser> do3meli: well you could
[09:12] <smoser> i would use an ubuntu cloud image. but youc an do the install for sure.
[09:12] <smoser> h...
[09:18] <do3meli> ok. let me try to get a test env up and running and see if i can reproduce the failing integration test. will get back to you once there...
[09:21] <smoser> do3meli: where will you start ...
[09:21] <smoser> as in is your working system freebsd ?
[09:23] <smoser> just let me know if you ahve any questions.
[09:23] <smoser> if i have to.. i can launch you a vm somewhere too
[09:24] <do3meli> i thought about spinning up an ubuntu cloud vm - i have an env ready to do this. my working system is ubuntu btw.
[09:35] <smoser> oh. well then i suggest just installing and using lxd on the working system.
[09:35] <smoser> that make sense ?
[09:35] <smoser> lxd is really nice
[09:35] <smoser> just apt-get install lxd and then 'lxd init'
[09:36] <smoser> i think that is probably all you should need.
[10:31] <do3meli> smoser: good point - let me try lxd then
[10:42] <do3meli> smoser: do i have to setup the citest tox-env somehow? i get "no module named "six".
[10:48] <smoser> hm.
[10:49] <smoser> tox --notest -e citest
[10:49] <smoser> but tox-venv i thought would do that.
[10:53] <smoser> do3meli: ^ sorry for slow reply. that make sense ?
[10:54] <smoser> yeah, my ~/bin/tox-venv *does* do the create. but the one in cloud-init does not. sorry.
[10:54] <do3meli> after installing bzr it was able to setup citest requirements. now tox-venv cmd fails with:
[10:54] <do3meli>   File "/home/doemeli/git/cloud-init/.tox/citest/lib/python3.5/site-packages/pylxd/client.py", line 267, in __init__
[10:54] <do3meli>     raise exceptions.ClientConnectionFailed()
[10:56] <do3meli> do i have to start an lxd container first?
[10:56] <do3meli> or will the tox-venv do that for me ?
[11:01] <smoser> the harness should do that for you.
[11:01] <do3meli> ahh think i got it. as i first installed lxd my user was not yet in that group
[11:01] <smoser> i suspect you just arent able to run a lxd container first
[11:01] <smoser> try
[11:01] <do3meli> after getting a new shell now seems to work ;-)
[11:02] <smoser> lxc launch ubuntu-daily:xenial testme
[11:02] <smoser> then lxc delete --force testme
[11:02] <do3meli> i think it works now. need to enable the ci test now and rerun it
[11:02] <smoser> ok. yeah, you problably didn't have access to the lxd socket (group / sggroup stuff)
[11:06] <do3meli> so just to confirm smoser: the test you mentioned in the beginning of this discussion was producing this failure: AssertionError: 'role: web' not found in '' ?
[11:08] <smoser> yep
[11:08] <smoser> and i probably regressed it (if you git blame)
[11:09] <do3meli> allright, then let me dig into that now ;-)
[11:09] <do3meli> just a general question: do you still want to have this test to be disabled per default? or is it may better to have it enabled?
[11:11] <smoser> have to think
[11:11] <smoser> what I do not want... is for c-i failures based on external things changing
[11:11] <smoser> (ubuntu archive is ok)
[11:12] <smoser> but if this generally works, and doens't have a dependency on , say salt-minion.com/something
[11:12] <smoser> then i'm good with enabling it
[11:15] <do3meli> the only dependency i see is the pkg install of the salt-minion.
[11:18] <do3meli> depending on the apt sources settings this is external or the default ubuntu repo ( i think it is in there too in a very old version - i personally use the official salt repos from repo.saltstack.com) - but as we dont manage the repository this is kind of 50/50 chance if it works or not. for the cloud-init ci system it will always work as long as the ubuntu repo contains the minion pkg.
[11:18] <do3meli> but for setups in the wild it basically comes down to the repo setting.
[13:25] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/P8dMDPhfNK/
[13:26] <smoser> do3meli: i'm looking at that . we'll get it fixed
[14:18] <do3meli> smoser: thanks - please ping me once resolved
[14:52] <smoser> do3meli: so i think ifyou just drop the --results-dir it will work
[14:52] <smoser> i think
[14:52] <do3meli> let me see
[16:07] <smoser> https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/341045
[16:07] <smoser> do3meli, powersj ^ thanks for your patience do3meli
[16:31] <blackboxsw> https://code.launchpad.net/~chad.smith/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/338366 powersj <---
[17:11] <dojordan> @blockboxsw you there?
[17:16] <dojordan> @blackboxsw* you there?


[00:22] <davidhurwich__> i have a question about my wireless driver
[00:23] <davidhurwich__> i cant seem to pick up wireless networks on my 11.04 install
[00:23] <davidhurwich__> ive checked my driver, uninstalled and reinstalled it, but still can not pick up wireless networks
[00:23] <davidhurwich__> any suggestions?
[02:53] <edmin> beginner here in need of help
[02:55] <edmin> i am creating a linux webserver
[02:56] <edmin> in an earlier attempt I used chown or chmod to modify the rights of the ~/var/www folder
[02:56] <edmin> so I could put in an index.html file to host my page
[02:56] <edmin> is there anyone here?
[02:57] <escott> more people in #ubuntu
[02:57] <edmin> can I go there when I know so little?
[02:57] <escott> do you really mean ~/var
[02:57] <escott> "/join #ubuntu"
[02:57] <edmin> I don't want to offend anyone
[02:57] <edmin> okay I will
[02:58] <edmin> thanks
[02:59] <edmin> it's not in the network list
[02:59] <edmin> ???
[05:41] <sarcor> can someone help me? I tried to run ubuntu 11.04 through a Live CD, and selected the option of trying it and not installing it. It then proceeded to show a log screen with multiple entries referring to my graphics card. It didn't even boot to the desktop and the CD stopped working entirely. Then the computer just hangs on this screen. What am I doing wrong?
[05:43] <bodhizazen> sarcor, did you check the integrity of the iso and the burn ?
[05:43] <bodhizazen> what graphic card do you have ?
[05:44] <sarcor> yea, all the files are there, its not just one single iso image
[05:45] <sarcor> I even ran the CD on my Win7 desktop and a wizard popped up with the three options of installing it, installing it in windows and learning more
[05:46] <sarcor> oh, well this is a ati mobility radeon HD 5650
[05:47] <bodhizazen> sarcor, well, you can try running it in so called low graphics mode
[05:47] <sarcor> but my graphics card is quite recent, i don't understand
[05:48] <bodhizazen> and even try installing it, but it sounds as if you will need to configure your ATI card
[05:48] <bodhizazen> I am not overly familiar with ati cards, but the driver is not open source
[05:50] <bodhizazen> sarcor, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422762
[05:50] <sarcor> Ubuntu is only default configured with open sourced graphics drivers?
[05:51] <sarcor> I can't even get into the actual OS, how am I supposed to configure my ATI card?
[05:51] <bodhizazen> The CD can only hold so much sarcor , apparently it does not have a driver for your card, but according to that thread you can configure it post-install
[05:51] <bodhizazen> It is often similar with nvidia cards
[05:51] <bodhizazen> And I have this GMA500 card I will sell you =)
[05:51] <sarcor> Lo, sorry, laptop
[05:52] <sarcor> Cant take it out without voiding warranty
[05:52] <bodhizazen> boot the low graphics option
[05:52] <sarcor> is that in f6?
[05:52] <bodhizazen> I think yes
[05:53] <sarcor> Ok, thanks
[05:54] <sarcor> I can't get a screenshot or even logs, so it's kinda hard to explain what's really written on this screen
[05:55] <bodhizazen> I understand, I have had that problem with my nvidia card from time to time
[05:56] <sarcor> Well let me just try to explain it anyway, lol. It reads the cd for a while, then a whole string of entries having to do with removing pci drivers and whatnot appear and a automatic crash report starts going. I can't find the damn crash report though.
[05:58] <sarcor> well whatever, I'll go try to find that low graphics option. Thanks
[07:07] <aayush> Hello
[07:10] <zkriesse> aayush: hi
[07:13] <aayush> hi.. how's going
[07:14] <zkriesse> quite well
[07:14] <zkriesse> And for yourself?
[07:14] <zkriesse> Pardon the response time, switching between this and a remote pc
[07:22] <Duck_> Can anyone tell me how to install sun-java for metasploit?
[07:22] <bioterror> meta what?
[07:23] <bioterror> if you dont have partner repository enabled, heres command: sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[07:23] <bioterror> and after that: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-{jre,bin,plugin,fonts}
[07:23] <bioterror> and then you need to remove that foss stuff that doesnt really work: sudo apt-get purge openjdk-6-{jre,jre-lib,jre-headless} icedtea{-6-jre-cacao,6-plugin}
[07:24] <bioterror> there you go, now you can enjoy internet like it was 1998
[07:25] <Duck_> Why will the internet be like '98?
[07:25] <bioterror> it was wonderful and worked like a charm!
[08:51] <Radicalsouthern> has anyone ever had this error before guys?
[08:51] <Radicalsouthern> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[08:51] <Radicalsouthern> Upstart job, you may also use the stop(8) utility
[09:59] <Jesse80> Ok, so my computer no longer wants to boot up
[10:00] <bioterror> usually I want that my computer boots up ;)
[10:00] <Jesse80> I get an error message...mount> mounting dev/disk/bz/uid..... on /root failed
[10:00] <Jesse80> Invalid argument
[10:00] <Jesse80> followed by
[10:00] <Jesse80> mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: No such file or directory
[10:00] <Jesse80> mount: mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: No such file or directory
[10:00] <Jesse80> mount: mounting /proc on /root/proc failed: No such file or directory
[10:00] <Jesse80> Target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init.
[10:00] <Jesse80> No init found. Try passing init=bootarg
[10:01] <bioterror> sounds like grub tries wrong harddrive or something like that
[10:01] <Jesse80> ok
[10:02] <Jesse80> wrong partition_
[10:02] <Jesse80> I have onlz one hard drive
[10:02] <bioterror> boot livecd and and command: sudo blkid
[10:02] <bioterror> should show the uid
[10:03] <Jesse80> ok
[10:04] <Jesse80> livecd is the cd I made to install ubuntu?
[10:04] <Jesse80> /dev/loop0: TYPE="squashfs"
[10:04] <Jesse80> /dev/sda1: UUID="91e863bc-14e1-487e-a54d-9ec8ed40c443" TYPE="ext4"
[10:04] <Jesse80> /dev/sda5: UUID="35f6aeb1-b79a-4a64-9e44-dee623989e73" TYPE="swap"
[10:06] <Jesse80> Please forgive my ignorance...heh heh
[10:06] <bioterror> Jesse80, now you can mount your ubuntu partition from the harddrive and look for /boot/grub/grub.cfg if it has that correct line
[10:07] <bioterror> like my wife has:
[10:07] <bioterror> /dev/sda1: UUID="96d6ca29-86b7-4a1d-b261-5ae48882d969" TYPE="ext4"
[10:07] <bioterror>         linux   /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-30-generic root=UUID=96d6ca29-86b7-4a1d-b261-5ae48882d969 ro single
[10:07] <Jesse80> I should just enter these commands into the terminal_
[10:08] <Jesse80> and I cant switch keyboard layouts &*()
[10:08] <bioterror> i just said that you need to look into your grub.cfg
[10:08] <Jesse80> (am running trial Ubuntu from livecd)
[10:09] <bioterror> and confirm you have that correct UUID in there on root=UUID=
[10:09] <bioterror> you can use nano as editor for example
[10:09] <bioterror> or even gedit
[10:09] <bioterror> what ever you want
[10:11] <Jesse80> trying to find grub.cfg
[10:12] <bioterror> it's on that your hard drive /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:12] <bioterror> so /media/something/boot/grub/
[10:13] <Jesse80> ok
[10:13] <Jesse80> so permission denied
[10:13] <Jesse80> grr
[10:17] <bioterror> with graphical program remember to use gksudo
[10:17] <bioterror> or gksu
[10:17] <bioterror> it's the same
[10:19] <Jesse80> why would I not have permission_
[10:19] <Jesse80> kezboard!
[10:19] <Jesse80> arggh!
[10:23] <Jesse80> keyboard fixed
[10:23] <Jesse80> thank god
[10:24] <Jesse80> so, anyway the hard drive is not mounted, but I guess that is obvious
[10:24] <Jesse80> and in media/apt/ i dont have the permission
[10:24] <Jesse80> in terminal my su password wont work
[10:36] <Jesse80> wait
[10:36] <Jesse80> ok the filesystem is not mounted
[10:36] <Jesse80> why would I not have permission?
[10:37] <krusi> are you running liveCD?
[10:37] <Jesse80> yes
[10:37] <krusi> if you run sudo su, you should get to root shell(in terminal)
[10:38] <Jesse80> ok
[10:38] <krusi> then you would have access, easier and safer way would be just to run sudo mount /disk/location, so you don't messup something on disk by accident :)
[10:38] <krusi> sudo mount /disk/location/ /dir/location ...is the syntax
[10:42] <Jesse80> ok
[10:43] <Jesse80> I am trying to access my grub.cfg
[10:43] <Jesse80> in the media/ is only on directory, apt/
[10:43] <Jesse80> for which I have no permission
[10:45] <krusi> did you successfully mount your disk now?
[10:45] <Jesse80> no
[10:45] <Jesse80> sudo su worked though
[10:46] <Jesse80> I obviously don not have enough linux experience
[10:46] <Jesse80> Ubuntu was too easy
[10:46] <krusi> you need to mount your primary partition first, if you are in root shell you should issue mkdir /mnt/sda1, this will create directory in /mnt/
[10:46] <bioterror> no point in making sda1 under /mnt
[10:47] <krusi> nex tyou mount disk in this directory with command mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
[10:47] <bioterror> just sudo mount /dev/sda1  /mnt
[10:47] <bioterror> sudo nano /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:47] <bioterror> after editing file: sudo umount /mnt
[10:48] <Jesse80>  sudo mount /dev/sda1  /mnt brings
[10:49] <Jesse80> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[10:49] <Jesse80>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[10:49] <Jesse80>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[10:49] <Jesse80>        dmesg | tail  or so
[10:49] <bioterror> Jesse80, sudo fsck /dev/sda1
[10:49] <Jesse80> aha
[10:53] <Jesse80> error in reading block 59284150
[10:53] <Jesse80> ignore error?
[10:54] <Jesse80> I accidentally cancelled
[10:54] <Jesse80> redod fsck
[10:54] <Jesse80> redid
[10:55] <Jesse80> /dev/sda1: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while reading block 59284150
[10:55] <Jesse80> JBD: Failed to read block at offset 6838
[10:55] <Jesse80> fsck.ext4: Input/output error while recovering ext3 journal of /dev/sda1
[10:55] <Jesse80> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# sudo fsck /dev/sda1
[10:55] <Jesse80> fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
[10:55] <Jesse80> e2fsck 1.41.12 (17-May-2010)
[10:55] <Jesse80> /dev/sda1: recovering journal
[10:55] <Jesse80> /dev/sda1 contains a file system with errors, check forced.
[10:55] <Jesse80> Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
[10:55] <Jesse80> Pass 2: Checking directory structure
[10:55] <Jesse80> Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
[10:55] <Jesse80> Pass 4: Checking reference counts
[10:55] <Jesse80> Pass 5: Checking group summary information
[10:55] <Jesse80> /dev/sda1: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****
[10:55] <Jesse80> /dev/sda1: 254064/29761536 files (0.7% non-contiguous), 36602037/119024384 blocks
[10:55] <bioterror> maybe reboot will fix it
[10:55] <Jesse80> ok
[10:56] <bioterror> but check that uuid
[10:56] <bioterror> before you reboot
[10:56] <Jesse80> how?
[10:56] <bioterror> to be sure that it's correct
[10:56] <bioterror> like I mentioned above
[10:56] <Jesse80> with the grub.cfg?
[10:56] <bioterror> uuid of sda1 with blkid command
[10:56] <Jesse80> I never got that to work
[10:56] <bioterror> and then match it with the one in grub.cfg
[10:56] <Jesse80> I couldnt find grub.cfg...or didnt have permission
[10:57] <bioterror> maybe you can now mount that hard drive when it's clean from errors, what do you think?
[10:57] <bioterror> or why did you run that fsck?-)
[10:57] <Jesse80> uh
[10:57] <Jesse80> I thought you told me to
[10:58] <Jesse80> and otherwise some forums were giving similar advice
[10:58] <krusi> try the mount now
[10:59] <krusi> bad bioterror  :)
[10:59] <Jesse80> e2fsck told me to run fsck manually
[10:59] <Jesse80> try what mount now?
 just sudo mount /dev/sda1  /mnt
[11:00] <krusi> should work now,i guess :)
[11:00] <Jesse80> and now?
[11:01] <bioterror> Wed12:47 <+bioterror> sudo nano /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[11:01] <bioterror> Wed12:47 <+bioterror> after editing file: sudo umount /mnt
[11:01] <Jesse80> how do I edit file?
[11:02] <Jesse80> with gedit?
[11:02] <bioterror> for example
[11:02] <bioterror> or with that nano
[11:02] <bioterror> but if gedit is easier for you, then use it
[11:03] <Jesse80> ok
[11:03] <Jesse80> I opened grub cfg from mnt/boot/grub
[11:03] <Jesse80> is this right?
[11:04] <bioterror> you tell us
[11:04] <bioterror> what do you see
[11:04] <bioterror> do you see your blkid
[11:04] <bioterror> Wed12:05*<Jesse80> /dev/sda1: UUID="91e863bc-14e1-487e-a54d-9ec8ed40c443" TYPE="ext4"
[11:04] <bioterror> thats what you were looking for
[11:06] <Jesse80> where will that be?
[11:06] <Jesse80> file is long...
[11:06] <bioterror> some where with word menuentry
[11:06] <bioterror> linux /boot/blaablaablaa
[11:08] <Jesse80> well
[11:10] <Jesse80>  can I just paste a big chunk of the file in here?
[11:10] <bioterror> what do you think
[11:10] <bioterror> !paste | Jesse80
[11:10] <ubot2> Jesse80: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[11:10] <bioterror> but now I'm not going to read your grub.cfg
[11:10] <Jesse80> yea yeah
[11:10] <bioterror> I bet you can see yourself those lines with uuid's
[11:10] <bioterror> if it matches with that you pasted us
[11:10] <Jesse80> no I found where it is saying uuid and such
[11:10] <Jesse80> it is just repeated...a lot
[11:11] <bioterror> sure it is
[11:11] <bioterror> but is it same?
[11:11] <bioterror> does it end c443?
[11:11] <Jesse80> ah ok
[11:11] <bioterror> begin with 91e?
[11:11] <bioterror> does it match?!
[11:11] <Jesse80> yes
[11:11] <bioterror> good
[11:11] <Jesse80> yes
[11:11] <bioterror> close the editor
[11:11] <bioterror> say in terminal
[11:11] <bioterror> cd
[11:11] <bioterror> sudo umount /mnt
[11:11] <bioterror> sudo reboot
[11:12] <Jesse80> double check
[11:12] <bioterror> and enjoy your working system
[11:13] <Jesse80> thanks!
[14:29] <s-fox> Hello.
[14:29] <holstein> s-fox: o/
[14:30] <s-fox> Hello holstein :)
[18:29] <nlsthzn> random question about planet ubuntu (planet.ubuntu.com) ... yesterday I read an entry from it... now it is gone?! Isn't blogs uploaded persistant?
[18:31] <pleia2> nlsthzn: if someone removes a post from their feed the planet will remove it from it's feed
[18:32] <pleia2> so it won't show up
[18:32] <nlsthzn> pleia2: ah ok... what a pity, was one of the most witty reads about somebody switching from Gnome to KDE that I have ever read... and I only got half way yesterday... drats... thanks for the info :)
[18:33] <pleia2> nlsthzn: the twitter feed for the planet should have it: http://twitter.com/#!/planetubuntu
[18:33] <pleia2> assuming the post wasn't deleted completely
[18:34] <nlsthzn> pleia2: cool... will look into it when I get home (the works firewall doesn't much care for any "social" sites :p
[18:34] <pleia2> nlsthzn: http://www.siltala.net/2011/06/09/the-grand-review-pt1/
[18:35] <pleia2> (looks like that one is just too old to still be on planet0
[18:37] <nlsthzn> pleia2: yup, that is is... strange that I was reading it on planet not 14 hours ago... thanks for finding it, that was way above and beyond needed (but appreciated)
[18:39] <pleia2> yeah, looks like a few new posts from earlier today bumped it it off the bottom of the page and to the ether :)
[18:42] <nlsthzn> pleia2: curse you mr bacon :p (but thanks for the song)
[18:43] <pleia2> haha
[18:48] <charlie-tca> 24
[18:49] <nlsthzn> charlie-tca: I believe the answer is actually 42...
[18:50] <charlie-tca> heh, my mistake ;)
[21:40] <philipballew__> I installed 11.04 on m lsptop and when i restart al i get is a blinking cursor and i cant boot into my new system. any ideas?
[21:41] <philipballew__> *laptop
[21:56] <coalwater> sorry philipballew__ , wish i could help
[21:57] <bioterror> philipballew__, try pressing alt+f1
[21:57] <bioterror> do you get into console's tty1?
[21:59] <philipballew__> all the comp is when i turn it on s blinking line up top or cursor apperas, bioterror what will alt-f1 do?
[22:00] <bioterror> !tty
[22:00] <ubot2> To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution.
[22:01] <philipballew__> i think the peoblem is its not booting
[22:01] <philipballew__> when do i press this
[22:02] <bioterror> can you choose from grub the safe mode?
[22:02] <philipballew__> the grup menu does not appear
[22:02] <bioterror> press left shift or something right after BIOS
[22:03] <philipballew__> i tried pressing shift and nothing happened
[22:03] <philipballew__> i was pressing the right shirt
[22:03] <bioterror> hold it down :D
[22:03] <philipballew__> ill try now :)
[22:04] <philipballew__> nothing! hum...
[22:05] <holstein> philipballew__: i would want to look with a live CD, and see that the installation worked
[22:05] <holstein> then, i would try recovering grub while i was in there
[22:06] <philipballew__> i did. the filesystem is thereat least. i reinstalled snd same thing
[22:06] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Methods of Reinstalling
[22:06] <holstein> philipballew__: reinstalled grub?
[22:06] <philipballew__> no
[22:06] <philipballew__> saw file syatem was there
[22:07] <bioterror> I read it could be esc key to access grub menu
[22:08] <philipballew__> esc didnt work. but it made my laptop beeb. haha
[22:09] <philipballew__> *beep sorry for typos. using my old machine
[22:10] <philipballew__> bioterror: boooting into live usb now
[22:13] <philipballew__> i could try installing 10.10 and upgrading maybe bioterror ?
[22:14] <holstein> philipballew__: if you are booting the USB, sounds to me like its the hard drive.. maybe the MBR
[22:14] <holstein> i mean, try it, but if the install is there and not booting, you might just keep ending up with that
[22:16] <philipballew__> 10.04 instaled way back when. holstein
[22:17] <holstein> philipballew__: maybe you should see if you still have that 10.04 install media and try again
[22:18] <holstein> that would be a good trouble shooting step
[22:18] <philipballew__> holstein: i installed from a usb twice and ten i pulled out an oficiol 11.04 cd and that prodused the ame error
[22:19] <holstein> philipballew__: you installed 10.04 from USB twice? and those failed?
[22:21] <philipballew__> no. 11.04
[22:21] <philipballew__> and they are what is prousing this error
[22:21] <holstein> right.. SO, if 10.04 used to install, and you still have that media, try that
[22:21] <philipballew__> *prouduceing
[22:21] <philipballew__> alright. ill do that now
[22:21] <philipballew__> what could go wrong
[22:21] <holstein> then, the first logical constant that is failing is the hard disk
[22:22] <philipballew__> how can you tell that?
[22:23] <holstein> because you've tested the hardware with the live media... assuming its booted up to the desktop live
[22:23] <holstein> AND, the OS version and install media will be changing, so the only thing left is the hard drive
[22:23] <holstein> *in theore
[22:24] <holstein> theory*
[22:28] <philipballew__> maes sence. ill go install 10.04 and see what happens


[10:10] <bazhang> idle 926:14:01,
[10:10] <bazhang> I wonder how high that can go
[10:11] <bazhang> tsimpson hasn't been seen for more than two years now


[20:06] <DarkriftX> are there lots of steps to install something from svn?
[20:07] <tekteen> darkriftX yes
[20:09] <tekteen> DarkriftX: yes, it takes alot of steps
[20:09] <DarkriftX> damn, wine-doors seems completely unusable... they broke everything make it ready for 0.1.3 but never released 0.1.3
[20:09] <DarkriftX> so old version dont work at all
[20:10] <_2> whendarz ?     oh   wine doors.    sorry.
[20:15] <dope> yoooooooooooooo
[20:15] <_2> no
[20:15] <tekteen> yo
[20:15] <_2> no
[20:15] <_2> ;/
[20:15] <dope> so i have 1 minor problem
[20:15] <dope> when i click a window it'll only come to the top if i click the title bar
[20:15] <_2> wait a few years and it will come of age
[20:16] <dope> how do i make it to when i just click the window it comes to the top
[20:16] <_2> "sloppy focus"
[20:16] <_2> un-tic it.
[20:17] <_2> iirc you can right click the desktop and configure to get there.
[20:19] <sushiX> how to access windows folder from a ubuntu machine
[20:19] <_2> !ntfs
[20:20] <marios> hi
[20:23] <sushiX> stored on a remote machine
[20:23] <_2> !samba
[20:23] <andriijas> how do i restart kde without rebooting the computer VIA ssh?
[20:24] <DarkriftX> you could kill it
[20:24] <DarkriftX> or change runlevel i think
[20:24] <_2> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[20:24] <DarkriftX> or that
[20:24] <_2> changing the runlevel will not help
[20:25] <_2> unless you have altered the defaults   in which case it's your system and you should know
[20:27] <andriijas> _2: ?dm or kdm?
[20:27] <_2> andriijas kdm is specific ?dm is generic.
[20:28] <andriijas> thx
[20:28] <LeeJunFan> Is there a way to search packages w/ versions? something like apt-cache search or apt-cache madison, but I want to search a pattern which madison doesn't seem to do.
[20:28] <fabio> hi all
[20:28] <_2> andriijas i try to not assume that you use kdm   you may have installed gnome/gdm first   or xfce4/xdm    so  ?dm   works for all of them.
[20:28] <fabio> what should i use to get my usb kbd working?
[20:29] <_2> LeeJunFan not the best but something like apt-cache madison .* | grep patern
[20:30] <LeeJunFan> _2: I must be missing something. I tried that and madison returned blank.
[20:31] <LeeJunFan> _2: yeah, that's the problem, madison doesn't regex, at least not with escaping \ or quoting or strong quoting :)
[20:33] <_2> LeeJunFan i see that.   well do you want a dirty hack you can put in a script ?
[20:34] <_2> for q in `apt-cache search '.*' | cut -d' ' -f1` ;do apt-cache madison $q ;done | grep $*   ## drop that in a script and call it with the patern you want to grep for.   "./script.sh blah1.0"    example.
[20:36] <LeeJunFan> I was going to do that, but I think I found a cleaner approach with apt-show-versions
[20:36] <DreadKnight> !flash
[20:36] <_2> hmm dapper doesn't seem to have that
[20:36] <DreadKnight> i have issues with flash... sometimes not displayinh anything...
[20:38] <LeeJunFan> _2: okay, well - going to have to use pipes, apt-cache-showversions shows the versions just fine - it just won't search based on them.
[20:40] <_2> LeeJunFan i guess that was writen after 6.6
[20:40] <radovich> i messed up: installed pcbsd and now i cannot enter my ubuntu. is there a way to make a grub or change bsd's loader so it will load my ubuntu???
[20:41] <_2> radovich both
[20:41] <_2> !grub | radovich
[20:41] <_2> that's well documented ^ as well as the other approach.
[20:42] <radovich> the problem is i have a laptop with no usb boot support and i do not have a floppy
[20:42] <_2> that's not a problem.  cd/dvd boot
[20:42] <_2> !supergrub
[20:42] <_2> silly bot
[20:43] <radovich> thanx alot
[20:43] <_2> super grub cd   ^
[20:43] <_2> or any linux install cd  for that matter
[20:44] <radovich> can i use my kubuntu cd to recover grub?
[20:44] <_2> yep
[20:45] <radovich> please tell me how, i need it very much, and very fast
[20:45] <radovich> i need some work to get done for tomorrow morning
[20:45] <jussi01> !grub
[20:45] <jussi01> it tells you there...
[20:45] <radovich> thanx
[20:47] <radovich> thank you very much for this one!
[20:47] <_2> radovich you used it to install grub the first time...   ergo it can recover it.    short answer is you boot the cd, mount the root fs of the install and issue   sudo grub-install -m /mountpoint/of/the/root/fs /dev/device_node         mountpoint might be /mnt  and device_node might be /dev/sda
[20:48] <radovich> i will reboot now and recover my lovely kubuntu box! see you in a jiffey
[20:48] <radovich> by the way: kubuntu is the greatest linux i have ever ever used.
[20:48] <_2> it's not too bad.   ;/
[20:48] <radovich> jussi01, _2 than you guys very much. you are good people!
[20:49] <_2> good and people in one breath ?      isn't that a contradiction
[20:50] <radovich> yes, but i make an exception 4 u
[20:50] <radovich> :)
[20:50] <radovich> xD
[20:50] <radovich> brb
[20:50] <_2> lol
[20:52] <RichardBH> hi, im trying to use the dd command but I keep getting the error dd: unrecognized operand 'size'='512'
[20:53] <_2> RichardBH bs=512
[20:53] <_2> RichardBH by the way.  512 is the default and specifying it is redundant
[20:54] <RichardBH> _2: thanks - id just tried that and got it to work
[20:54] <RichardBH> thats useful to know though
[20:54] <_2> welcome.
[20:56] <_2> also of note.  if writing to hdd a block size of 4096 is normally 4x faster.
[20:56] <_2> i.e. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=4096   #example only.
[20:57] <kottlett> anybody got intrepid with an atheros and WPA running?
[20:58] <_2> on a final note to that   cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda  # is equal in affect and speed.
[20:58] <Bauldrick> kottlett: yes
[20:59] <kottlett> Bauldrick: nice... did it "just" work, or did you need to configure / install something extra?
[20:59] <Bauldrick> last i heard network-manager-kde was broke, use gnome or as I do wicd
[21:01]  * _2 wonders if  "stove down"   is the opposite of  "stove up"   ???
[21:02] <kottlett> Bauldrick: hm... there is no wicd package...
[21:03] <_2> not in hardly either
[21:03] <Bauldrick> kottlett: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[21:04] <Bauldrick> kottlett: try network-manager-gnome instead if *-kde is still broke
[21:04] <_2> hey! anyone have a good google script ?    or know of one ?
[21:05] <alx54> thanks guys =) cya
[21:05] <kottlett> Bauldrick: well network-manager-kde at least got eth0 up :) I'll give wicd a try... thx
[21:07] <_2> you know,  like a google bot for irc,  only i'm just looking to inhance the console with a google command...     ?
[21:07] <_2> enhance ?
[21:08] <_2> N-hance    ;/
[21:08] <calvin> hola compañeros
[21:08] <_2> hense my question.
[21:09] <_2> !es | calvin
[21:09] <ubuntu_> !grub
[21:10] <_2> although latin americian es is probably not the same as spainish es ...
[21:11] <kottlett_> Bauldrick: thx... wicd did the job :)
[21:11] <Bauldrick> kottlett_: np
[21:15] <dope> i cannot seem to get the vncserver working on here
[21:16] <dope> can't connect from tight vnc on a windows machine
[21:17] <erickrauda> mmmm
[21:17] <erickrauda> hi
[21:17] <erickrauda> kubunteros
[21:17] <erickrauda> i need rdestop in my linux
[21:18] <cuznt>  * Unmarried women are not allowed to buy edible panties in South Carolina.
[21:19] <dr_willis> dope try connecting locally with  vncclient localhost:0 or whatever port perhaps
[21:21] <dope> dr_willis: i got it thanks
[21:21] <dope> sorta
[21:22] <dope> all i'm getting is a grey screen with 3 checkboxes on it
[21:23] <dope> and there's a console window
[21:23] <dope> doesn't look like the desktop on my linux machine
[21:26] <dr_willis> thats becuase its proberly not
[21:26] <dr_willis> vncserver does not share the 'currently seen desktop'
[21:26] <dr_willis> it spawns its own desktop.
[21:27] <dr_willis> if you want to share the 'current desktop' you need to use the kde or gnome desktop shareing feature/tool (which i never use)
[21:27] <dr_willis> but hes gone... so phhht. :)
[21:28] <_2> dr_willis "proberly"   what locale is that ?     i'm familear with "prolly"  and  "probobably"   but not  "proberly"   ?
[21:30]  * dr_willis hits _2  with a dictionairtary
[21:30] <_2> :)
[21:30] <dr_willis> so lookit here boy!
[21:31] <dr_willis> :)
[21:31] <dr_willis> and stay off my lawn!
[21:31] <dr_willis> darn kids and their fancy walk-pods!
[21:32] <_2> heh.  and don't make me get up and come over there!       you forgot that one.  :)
[21:32] <dr_willis> 'dont make me stop this car!'
[21:32] <_2> that'll work   :)
[21:33] <dr_willis> 'just because i walk with a cane, dosent mean i cant kick your backside' :)
[21:33] <cuzbuntu> are we there yet?
[21:33] <dr_willis> now back to fighting with this other pc
[21:33] <cuzbuntu> i got to go to the bathrooooooooooom.
[21:34] <_2> cuzbuntu must be an american,   how'd he get in here...
[21:34] <dr_willis> 'you can just hold it young man!' 'that will teach you to get thirsty!'
[21:35]  * cuzbuntu crosses his legs and dances............  HURRY!
[21:36] <cuzbuntu> * In Vermont, it's illegal to pick your nose and stick the pickings under a table.
[21:37] <_2> why do the yanks always talk about bodily excreesions  ?
[21:38]  * cuzbuntu a yank?
[21:38] <dr_willis> _2,  same reason the brits are always talking abouyt the 'loo' ?
[21:39] <_2> probably so.   i never understood that one either.
[21:39] <dr_willis> Potty Humor is universiale
[21:40] <_2> ah so it comes from a universitable
[21:41]  * _2 hands the "dictionairtary" back to dr_willis
[21:42] <dr_willis> You can bankanate on it
[21:42] <seba> !es
[21:42] <dr_willis> wow  - we havent had a grub question all day have we?
[21:49] <filerem> hi
[21:50] <radovich> i did it!
[21:50] <radovich> i recovered my kubuntu!
[21:52] <Glady> congrats
[21:52] <radovich> thank you!
[21:53] <jussi01> !yay | radovich
[21:54] <dr_willis> !joy
[21:54] <radovich> jussi01: thank you very much.
[21:55] <radovich> last time this happened, i reinstalled. now i am lesser noob than i was before. the Force is strong in you jussi01
[21:56] <radovich> btw... in kde4 i was fidgetting with the panel, and now it is gone. how do i get it back?
[21:59] <Glady> fidgetting
[21:59] <radovich> i was moving it left and right...
[21:59] <Glady> up and down
[21:59] <radovich> and now it is GONE
[21:59] <radovich> sorry for yelling :)
[22:00] <radovich> front to back...
[22:00] <Glady> it is the pain of the loss
[22:00]  * dr_willis weeps
[22:01]  * coreymon77 remembers kde 3, when all you had to do was rerun kicker whenever the pannel disappeared
[22:01] <Glady> my endless test.......
[22:01] <radovich> kde4 is bloated. pretty, but bloated
[22:01] <dr_willis> kde4 is still very much a 'work in progress'
[22:01] <radovich> yep
[22:02] <unix> hey what is ht best chat roon for Red hat linux ?
[22:02] <Glady> lol
[22:02] <Glady> bloated
[22:02] <radovich> wip that pcbsd guys decided to put on. and they have no support, whatsoever how to put kde3 on it. i mean in fibonacci
[22:02] <Glady> you know that cortisol has that effect ?
[22:02] <radovich> unix: try googling. there should bee #redhat
[22:02] <radovich> here
[22:03] <radovich> noooo, i do not do drugs :)
[22:04] <radovich> well... i am off tu pursuit a kde3 install howto for bsd
[22:08] <giuvita> ciao a tutti
[22:09] <giuvita> ubuntu non mi fa usare il microfono incorporato al computer portatile
[22:09] <giuvita> qualcuno puo aiutarmi?
[22:12] <ign0ramus|afknfl> !it | giuvita
[22:21] <sourcemaker> crypto luks does not accept my password? do I really lost my password or are ther know problems after kernel upgrade?
[22:21] <joseph> whenever i load an url from xchat, it always brings firefox into focus.  is there a way to get around that?
[22:23] <Glady> u dont like firefox?
[22:23] <joseph> no, i love firefox
[22:23] <joseph> i just want it to stay on its own virtual desktop
[22:23] <Glady> then dont complain
[22:23] <dr_willis> he wants to load a url, but not look it.. :)
[22:24] <joseph> dr_willis: i just want it to load in the virtual desktop it's already in, not jump to this desktop
[22:24] <Glady> lol
[22:24] <Glady> u cant escape it
[22:24] <szakulec> I have adept updater open, and gtk-qt-engine says it could be upgraded, but it wants to bring in 10 new gnome libraries which it previously didn't need- is there anyway I can get the upgrade without the extra libraries installing?
[22:24] <Glady> it is ur destiny
[22:24] <dr_willis> ive neer noticed that problem.. but i rarely have firefox on a different desktop
[22:24] <joseph> Glady: if you don't have a solution, then you're not helping. and i'm not laughing.
[22:25] <Glady> oh sorry I try to help from the  bottom of my heart
[22:26] <joseph> it didn't seem to behave that before i started using hardy
[22:28] <Glady> why u dont simply turn off ur pc and take a long walk?
[22:29] <joseph> Glady: the bottom line is this - if you have nothing to say to help, just be silent.
[22:29] <Glady> ok
[22:29] <Glady> sorry
[22:29] <Glady> byebye
[22:29] <Glady> good luck anyway
[22:30] <dr_willis> i wonder if xchat is calling firefox to handle the URL in a different way, with a differnt option
[22:30] <Glady> more professional?
[22:30] <Glady> or more freindlyuser?
[22:31] <Glady> u have so many oprtions
[22:31] <Glady> just check teh right boxes
[22:32] <joseph> dr_willis: well, i think url handling is done by settings in kcontrol
[22:32] <redDEAD> how do i access kcontrol in kde4, in ubuntu?
[22:32] <joseph> re doc
[22:33] <joseph> redDEAD: well, from the kmenu
[22:34] <dr_willis> Using kde4 on the other machine.. its loading the web sites in Konqueror...
[22:34] <dr_willis> silly things
[22:34] <redDEAD> joseph, i dont see kmenu in apt
[22:35] <joseph> dude
[22:35] <joseph> it's the start menu
[22:35] <joseph> it's a blue box with a k in it
[22:35] <Glady> k
[22:35] <Glady> this is the good one
[22:35] <doc_willis> I cant even figure out how to make xchat load urls in firefox under kde4. doh
[22:37] <doc_willis> google.com
[22:37] <redDEAD> joseph, im not retarded, im running ubuntu. I want to find the equivalent to kcontrol in kde4. I want to change the look of my kde application in gnome to look more gtkish.
[22:38] <joseph> oh
[22:38] <joseph> you're in the wrong channel, then man
[22:38] <joseph> this is for kubuntu
[22:38] <joseph> redDEAD: i suggest #ubuntu
[22:39] <redDEAD> how do i access kcontrol without kmenu then? that should be in the relam of answerable for a kubuntu user.
[22:40] <joseph> redDEAD: alt+f2 should bring up a run dialog where you can type it.
[22:40] <joseph> redDEAD: you may consider running it from a terminal program, like konsole or gnome-terminal
[22:41] <redDEAD> joseph, please stop trying to help me. allow someone how knows a little more
[22:41] <ign0ramus|afknfl> redDEAD: if you're running ubuntu+kde, then you are running 'kubuntu'.. also, if you're having problems with kde4, you should see #kubuntu-kde4
[22:41] <joseph> redDEAD: you can use /ignore then.  you claim not to be retarded, but that remains to be seen.
[22:42] <ign0ramus|afknfl> wow. what a douche.
[22:42] <dr_willis> redDEAD,  i normally add that kde-settings applet/menu to the kicker.   this is  kde3 only however
[22:42] <joseph> in all fairness, i was sort of douchey too
[22:42] <dr_willis> Oh well
[22:42] <ign0ramus> dr_willis: he left
[22:42]  * dr_willis was kind and polite
[22:42] <dr_willis> :P
[22:42] <ign0ramus> as per usual :)
[22:43]  * dr_willis goes chaseing after them!
[22:43] <joseph> i'm going to wait until kde4 is more stable
[22:43] <dr_willis> I still cant see where under kde4 to make xchat load urls in firefox.
[22:43] <ign0ramus> dr_willis: are you really a doctor, or do you just play one on irc?
[22:43]  * dr_willis is a Dr of Love
[22:43] <dr_willis> :P
[22:43] <joseph> dr_willis: maybe through the url catcher config in xchat?
[22:43] <ign0ramus> i will take your word on that one :)
[22:43] <dr_willis> joseph,  theres the 'default' that is not even defined in there.
[22:44] <joseph> the default is opera, iirc
[22:44] <dr_willis> joseph,  i cant figure out the rught syntax to add an enetyr for firefox either.
[22:44]  * joseph nods
[22:44] <dr_willis> Opera one looked like it was commented out
[22:44] <ign0ramus> does anyone use irssi?
[22:44] <dr_willis> !opera -remote 'openURL(%s)'
[22:44] <dr_willis> Wait a sec.. is that ! needed.. hmmm
[22:44] <dr_willis> perhaps i need !firefox %s
[22:45] <joseph> that's what i'd try
[22:45] <dr_willis> I allready shut down the other box..  :) i will mess withit some day...
[22:45] <xbxb> When I log out, which user will then own the processes that I started? Or will they be killed?
[22:46] <dr_willis> They would die.. unless you used nohup , or some other way toi keep them alive
[22:46] <joseph> you know, it's for these little annoying things i'm glad i abandoned kde4 and stuck with the stable hardy
[22:47] <Glady> the url link
[22:48] <aziz> is there a im client with support for MSN Multimedia?
[22:48] <Glady> u want it to stay as a jesus place
[22:48] <aziz> *an*
[22:49] <Glady> lost in translation
[22:49] <Glady> not able to read url
[22:49] <Glady> damn web
[22:50] <Glady> rebooting
[22:50] <mp> Question: How can I upgrade to Intrepid Alpha in Kubuntu?