[02:00] <mnajem> \j #latex
[02:13] <sweemeng> yo mnajem
[02:13] <mnajem> yup
[02:13] <mnajem> sup
[02:16] <sweemeng> jus say hi
[02:16] <sweemeng> me need to back to work liao
[03:26] <ApOgEE> salam ejat
[03:26] <ApOgEE> salam all
[03:26] <ejat> wsalam
[03:26] <ejat> aik ..
[03:26] <ejat> bleh online plak arinie
[03:27] <ejat> ke mau request cloaking :)
[03:27] <ApOgEE> ejat: hehehe
[03:27] <ejat> dpt x email ?
[03:27] <ApOgEE> tgh request
[03:27] <ApOgEE> x dpt email pun?
[03:27] <ejat> tu first time aku send email
[03:27] <ejat> yang aku cc kat ko tu
[03:28] <ejat> jerungkun
[03:29] <ApOgEE> ejat: ooo dapat
[03:29] <ejat> papit aku suh dia apply gak
[03:29] <ejat> dia cakap x ckp goals
[03:29] <ejat> huhu
[03:30] <ApOgEE> lol
[03:30] <ejat> antara org lamo yg x nak menonjol ..
[03:30] <ApOgEE> ya betul
[03:31] <ApOgEE> SuMarDi pun
[03:31] <ejat> yups ..
[03:31]  * ejat pang SuMarDi
[03:31] <ApOgEE> dia bizi layan iOS coding je tu kot
[03:32] <ejat> :)
[03:37] <sweemeng> live long and prosper everyone
[03:37] <ApOgEE>  /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-my add ApOgEE OP
[03:37] <ApOgEE> lolz
[03:38]  * sweemeng wishes to show the vulcan sign
[03:38] <sweemeng> but irc can't do that
[03:38] <ApOgEE> heheh sweemeng
[03:44] <ApOgEE> sweemeng: couldn't find the vulcan sign... ;p
[03:44] <sweemeng> lol
[03:47] <sweemeng> wish to be more involved
[03:47]  * sweemeng try to reduce the number of community commitment now
[03:47] <sweemeng> limit only to hackerspace and python
[03:47] <sweemeng> try to join ubuntu malaysia if have time
[03:48] <ApOgEE> sweemeng: hackerspace is a great place
[03:48] <sweemeng> ApOgEE, need to decide what else it can do
[03:48] <ApOgEE> i wish i could join you. since i like electronics alot
[03:48] <sweemeng> malaysia as you know don't have that many maker
[03:48] <sweemeng> electronic enthusiast or what nott
[03:48] <sweemeng> and we can do advocacy all the time
[03:48] <ApOgEE> but the place is quite far from my house
[03:48] <sweemeng> can't
[03:48] <sweemeng> and that
[03:49] <ApOgEE> sweemeng how much did u pay or get paid for being hackerspace members?
[03:50] <sweemeng> currently RM50 a month
[03:50] <sweemeng> but might raise to RM100 soon
[03:50] <sweemeng> because low price people don't come in anyway
[03:50] <sweemeng> lol
[03:50] <ApOgEE> you get Rm50 of you pay RM50?
[03:50] <ApOgEE> *or
[03:51] <sweemeng> ApOgEE, pay
[03:51] <ApOgEE> ;p
[03:51] <sweemeng> we didn't get anything
[03:51] <sweemeng> the money is to pay bills
[03:51] <sweemeng> and rent
[03:51] <ApOgEE> i see...
[03:53] <ApOgEE> i wish i can join you... but paying RM50 and unable to use the facility (location problem), make me think thrice
[03:54] <sweemeng> ApOgEE, don't man
[03:54] <ApOgEE> therefore, i just setup my own hackerspace room in my house... ;p
[03:54]  * sweemeng feel guilty if you pay but don't come
[04:02] <ejat> ApOgEE: screenshot your own hackerspace dowh ..
[04:04] <ApOgEE> ejat: will do later... only got soldering station and a pile of components there... got other underground project now (you already know.. shhhhh!)
[04:15] <ejat> :)
[04:37] <ApOgEE> hi hyperair
[04:38] <ApOgEE> ejat: yay... dah recloaked
[06:37] <ApOgEE> !ping ejat
[06:38] <ejat> pong
[06:38] <ejat> huhu dah cloaking .. mantap
[06:41] <ApOgEE> hehe
[07:18] <ejat> hyperair: r u here ?
[07:18] <hyperair> yeah what's up?
[07:19] <ejat> can u help ApOgEE to setup his @ubuntu.com mail ..
[07:19] <hyperair> eh?
[07:19] <hyperair> what do you mean setup?
[07:19] <ejat> i cant remember how i do it previously .. its years back
[07:19] <ejat> forwarding ..
[07:19] <hyperair> it doesn't need setting up, right?
[07:19] <hyperair> it's done at launchpad automatically
[07:20] <ejat> hyperair: thats what i think of ..
[07:20] <hyperair> yeah.
[07:20] <hyperair> i didn't do any setup
[07:20] <ejat> ApOgEE: see ....
[07:20] <ejat> then .. how do u do?
[07:20] <hyperair> the emails will go to your launchpad.net email.
[07:20] <hyperair> so for me everything lands in<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:21] <hyperair> i think the setup is done by a cronjob on that side
[07:21] <hyperair> so it can take a bit of time before it starts working.
[07:21] <ejat> owh .. maybe the cronjob not run yet :)
[07:21] <ejat> ApOgEE: ... ello ...
[07:22] <ApOgEE> oh ok
[07:22] <ApOgEE> no problem then
[07:23] <ejat> but mine is not land in my launchpad email :) ..
[07:23] <ApOgEE> ok, thanks hyperair, ejat
[07:23] <ejat> let me try my kubuntu.org email which i never tried
[07:24] <hyperair> ApOgEE: if it still doesn't work tomorrow, then try asking on #launchpad. maybe someone will know
[07:25] <ejat> its goes to the same mailbox for ubuntu.com
[07:26] <ejat><EMAIL_ADDRESS>/<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:26] <ApOgEE> hyperair: ok, thanks
[07:26] <ejat> ApOgEE: x bz ker arinie
[07:26] <ApOgEE> tgh tunggu testing board
[07:26] <ejat> guys .. when can we have meeting to get ready for our loco re-approval ?
[07:27] <ApOgEE> ini run test... so, kene run dan check log
[07:27] <ApOgEE> ejat: aku takde akses nak update loco page ke?
[07:27] <ApOgEE> official loco page tu sapa yg boleh update?
[07:27] <ApOgEE> gambar semua
[07:28] <ejat> loco directory u mean ? re-approval kasi settle kat wiki page jerk
[07:28] <ejat> loco directory ? gambar guna flickr or picasa
[07:31] <ejat> ?????
[07:34] <ApOgEE> loco directory page tu takyah update?
[07:34] <ejat> update gak
[07:34] <ejat> event / meeting :)
[07:34] <ejat> cuba try
[07:34] <ejat> aku nye ctrl key mereng skit
[07:34] <ejat> terus skit jerk aku highlight
[07:35] <ejat> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-my
[07:36] <ejat> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TeamReports/September2011 <--- nie jerk ubuntu-my xde
[07:37] <ejat> kena fikir satu hari .. kite hackhaton update kat situ for a few month
[07:37] <ejat> need to transfer meeting yang dah ade kite letak kat our wiki tu there ..
[07:38] <ejat> and after this .. we need to have meeting at least once a month ..
[07:38] <ejat> then update it to team reports
[08:18] <ApOgEE> ejat: kene sit down, discuss camne nak resolve isu ini... no borak kosong, serious discussion
[08:18] <ejat> yeah .. +10 agree
[08:19] <ApOgEE> kene aware bahawa setiap ahli pun ada komitmen lain, so straight to the point, hanya untuk proceed dan be productive
[08:19] <ejat> x kisah la. .. bak kate kata ko ... x leh tunggu org lain .. mana ade then proceed .. sbb benda bukan main2
[08:19] <ejat> yeah ..
[08:19] <ApOgEE> ok je, aku free malam je. siang keje
[08:20] <ApOgEE> atau weekend...
[08:20] <ApOgEE> weekend pun kekadang aku ada kelas kat UTM
[08:20] <ApOgEE> tapi still boleh buat, kalau kita susun kerja elok2 dan sama2 buat keje memasing
[08:22] <ejat> :)
[08:22] <ejat> tgh plan nak ajak staff canonical for mygosscon
[08:23] <ejat> hopefully ade la ..
[08:24] <ApOgEE> um
[08:24] <ApOgEE> mygosscon bila?
[08:24] <ejat> ujung november
[08:25] <ApOgEE> ooo
[08:25] <ejat> sbb x class ngn UDS .. so harap2 boleh la
[08:25] <ejat> clash
[08:25] <ApOgEE> terdekat ni takde program ke ubuntu-my?
[08:25]  * ejat nie pun tgh seram sejuk dalam standby list UDS nie ..
[08:25] <ApOgEE> ko pegi UDS?
[08:25]  * ejat x de idea .. since "patah tangan/kaki"
[08:25] <ApOgEE> ejat: apa bikin kat UDS?
[08:26] <ejat> ntah aku pun tatau ape lagi aku nak buat kat sane ..
[08:26] <ejat> join community track la kut
[08:26] <ejat> kalau sempat dev track
[08:26] <ejat> harap2 ade rezeki ..
[08:26] <ejat> dah bertahun2 apply ..
[08:26] <ApOgEE> ejat: camne bleh join UDS tu? develop apa?
[08:27] <ApOgEE> aku itu hari diorg jemput gak ... dari team UBT
[08:27] <ApOgEE> tapi aku la yg takde masa.. dan takde idea nak bikin apa
[08:27] <ejat> jemput mcm mana kah?
[08:27] <ejat> beginner team ?
[08:27] <ApOgEE> dirg panggil sbb aku wakil Malaysia dlm Ubuntu Beginners Team
[08:28] <ejat> ApOgEE: sponsorship ..
[08:28] <ejat> woo ... mantop ..
[08:28] <ApOgEE> lama dah ... masa aku tgh bizi giler
[08:28] <ApOgEE> so, layan tak layan je la
[08:28] <ejat> UD week ke summit ?
[08:28] <ejat> sape yang invite ?
[08:28] <ApOgEE> aku pun tak paham sangat mendape UDS tu...


[16:08] <Brainstorm> Updates for Bangladesh: +3539 cases, +20 deaths, +34547 tests (10.2% positive) since a day ago


[00:57] <ScottL> is there an official notice or post that ubuntu is moving away from gnome-panels?
[00:57] <jcastro> not really
[00:57] <jcastro> it's just kind of unmaintained upstream from now on
[00:58] <jcastro> but I'm sure there'll be some critical fixes as plenty of people are shipping -panel
[00:59] <ScottL> jcastro, who is shipping -panel?  ubuntu studio is now evaulating gnome3, unity, xfce, etc to find a sustainable DE
[00:59] <jcastro> all the old distros
[00:59] <jcastro> so like, if you find a huge crasher today someone still has to maintain it in like LTS
[01:01] <jcastro> ScottL: but it's old and stable
[01:01] <jcastro> so like, it's not a bad choice necessarily
[01:01] <ScottL> true, but after a cycle or two it probably will start suffering from bit rot, no?
[01:01] <ScottL> as libs get updated, etc
[01:02] <ScottL> jcastro, speaking of gnome3, is there a good way to test a relatively current gnome3 with natty?
[01:02] <jcastro> not currently
[01:03] <jcastro> not without a PPA
[01:03] <ScottL> i've been using maverick with gnome3 but i think the gnome3 installed might be missing some of the latest features and don't want to base my judgement on that
[01:03] <jcastro> and even then it upgrades like major chunks of your stack
[01:03] <ScottL> ppa is okay
[01:03] <ScottL> we just need to accurately evaluate how gnome3 will evaluate studio work flow
[01:04] <jcastro> https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3
[01:04] <jcastro> yeah just make sure you backup and stuff
[01:04] <jcastro> it's still a work in progress
[01:04] <jcastro> (the PPA)
[01:05] <ScottL> everyone who is testing gnome3, unity, xfce, et al has been doing it on test machine so we're not too worried about data at this point, but thanks for the warning :)
[01:05]  * jcastro nods
[01:05] <jcastro> lmk how it works out
[01:06] <ScottL> will do, thanks for the info
[01:10] <ScottL> jcastro, i meant to tell you that if i ever make it to a UDS i'll play some metallica with you and jono :)
[01:10] <jcastro> that would be awesome
[01:10] <jono> ScottL, nice!
[01:11]  * ScottL is still trying to get jono to throw down wicked metal drumming on his song his still finishing ;)
[01:13] <jcastro> ScottL: click track. :)
[01:13] <jono> ScottL, :-)
[01:19] <ScottL> i've already got a rudimentary pattern from hydrogen but wanted something with some fills, akin to what jono did on his albums
[01:20] <ScottL> but i understand if you are not interesting jono, you got a lot of things going on, i won't bug you again about it :)
[01:29] <popey> jcastro: you know that screencast you did where it was flickering madly, you mentioned it might be the nvidia driver.. who suggested that? any likely fix?
[01:42] <ScottL> oh...jono, i am enjoying you LXF article on project management, i am hoping it will help me with ubuntu studio
[01:46] <jono> thanks ScottL :-)
[08:24] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:26] <popey> lo
[08:28] <nigelb> hrm, I wonder why the travel agent isn't mailing me back :(
[08:28] <nigelb> hey popey
[08:28] <nigelb> popey: will you be at UDS?
[08:37] <popey> nigelb: nope
[08:37] <nigelb> :(
[08:37] <popey> sadly not sponsored this time
[08:38] <popey> lots of cool people going though :D
[08:38] <popey> and if etherpad is used I'll actually be able to contribute a bit better remotely
[08:38] <popey> I found gobby remotely was _insanely_ annoying
[08:39] <popey> (I had to do all kinds of port forwarding to even make it work because I am behind a nasty proxy server)
[08:39] <popey> and even then it disconnected me, and lagged badly
[08:39] <nigelb> I didn't mind gobby the time I did remote
[08:39] <nigelb> ahh, proxy
[08:39] <popey> yeah, if I wasnt proxied it would probably be okay
[08:39] <nigelb> I'm still in a visa mess, sigh
[08:39] <popey> what also frustrated me was that people wouldn't speak up
[08:39] <popey> and if we pinged the room irc channel to speak up they would ignore it
[08:39] <popey> they would actually read it, and then go "meh" and not speak up
[08:40] <popey> which is somewhat disrespectful
[08:40] <nigelb> I had people speaking up
[08:40] <popey> yeah, some did, sometimes
[08:41] <popey> but the combination of a) not being able to hear people, and b) not being able to see the document they were typing made remote participation pretty impossible
[08:42] <nigelb> oh, I was using ear buds
[08:42] <jussi> Good morning all
[08:42] <popey> so was I
[08:42] <popey> noise cancelling ones
[08:42] <nigelb> plus the incease volume beynod max helped me
[08:42] <nigelb> popey: which UDS?
[08:42] <popey> N
[08:42] <nigelb> I suspect you were in person at the UDS I participated remotely
[08:42] <nigelb> ah
[08:43] <nigelb> I remember asking sladen to speak up and he did (community roundtable)
[08:43] <dholbach> good morning
[08:43] <nigelb> hi dholbach
[08:43] <popey> these were not community rooms
[08:43] <dholbach> hey nigelb
[08:43] <popey> the community track seem good at speaking up
[08:43] <popey> others less so
[08:43] <nigelb> popey: aha, blame them then :P
[08:43] <popey> thats just my experience
[08:43] <nigelb> I only did community last time :P
[08:44] <popey> i think the last UDS I went to was Texas
[08:44]  * nigelb <3 community track
[08:44] <nigelb> popey: No, Belgium
[08:44] <popey> oh, yes
[08:44] <nigelb> popey: You were drunk and doing podcasts :p
[08:44] <popey> haha
[08:44] <jussi> oh dear
[08:44] <popey> they went well :)
[08:44] <nigelb> I think you did an interview where you pronounced someone's name thrice wrongly
[08:44] <jussi> Why didnt I know about those...
[08:44] <popey> Seif Lotfy
[08:44] <nigelb> exactly!
[08:44] <popey> no, _he_ pronounced his own name wrong
[08:44] <nigelb> aha
[08:45] <nigelb> I remember the name thing
[08:45] <popey> it was very funny :)
[08:45] <popey> we have some funny outtakes from that UDS
[08:45] <popey> some of which are very non-code of conduct compliant
[08:45] <popey> so will never see the light of day
[08:45] <nigelb> someday I'll visit you and bribe you to listen to them
[08:45] <popey> haha
[08:45] <nigelb> just once
[08:45] <nigelb> you can call MIB and flash my memory of the last 24 hours after that :P
[08:45] <popey> :)
[08:46] <jussi> hrm, what is that pulse audio tool again? my skype doesnt hear me :/
[08:47] <popey> pavucontrol
[08:47] <nigelb> jussi: I had fun call with dholbach once.  He kept hearing the out from my speakers but not my mic :P
[08:47] <jussi> hah!
[08:48] <nigelb> so basically, he kept hearing himself :P
[08:52] <kim0> Good Morning
[08:53] <nigelb> hey dpm, kim0
[08:53] <nigelb> dpm: Day 1 sessions were rocking. I read it again today morning :)
[08:53] <dpm> hey nigelb, cool ;-) - I'm just linking the logs
[08:55] <kim0> awesome :)
[08:55] <nigelb> \o/
[08:59] <dpm> there you go, logs should now be available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/Timetable
[08:59]  * nigelb hugs dpm
[08:59] <nigelb> dpm: any news on the nicknames?
[08:59] <dpm> nigelb, not yet, but I'm going to write to them now
[09:00] <nigelb> awesome
[09:02] <nigelb> AlanBell: that is like 2.5 domain names :O
[09:17] <nigelb> spanish mail ftw :D
[09:41] <dpm> ;)
[11:33] <akgraner> hi folks - on the classic desktop there is that gui that makes it easy for non-command line folks like me to connect to servers...where is that handy dandy little thing in Unity or what the heck is it called?
[11:34]  * akgraner really needs to learn more command line stuff...then she wouldn't freak when she doesn't  have or can't remember the name of those cute little gui features
[11:37] <JanC> akgraner: do you mean the "connect to server" thing in the Places menu? (or Locations or whatever it's called in English again)
[11:38] <JanC> akgraner: that's also available in the File menu of Nautilus
[11:39] <akgraner> JanC yep that's it....
[11:40] <akgraner> JanC in Unity I type "connect to server" in the dash (I think that is what it is called) and I get nothing :-(
[11:41] <JanC> I don't think it's a separate program, but a part of nautilus
[11:41] <akgraner> popey - you know people would pay for access to the outtakes....:-P
[11:41] <JanC> but I might be wrong about that  ☺
[11:41] <popey> :) akgraner
[11:41] <akgraner> JanC no worries...:-)
[11:43] <JanC> akgraner: personally I just type URIs in nautilus to make it connect to servers
[11:44] <akgraner> Guess I was looking for my easy fix....
[11:45] <JanC> Ctrl+L, then type something like smb://nas.local/share or sftp://host.example.com/path/to/what/I/need
[11:47] <JanC> hm, I wonder how the panel got that dialog to pop up, there must be some way to do it with a commandline parameter or such...
[11:48] <akgraner> hehe I just typed Ctrl+L while in this channel and it cleared the screen of all previous conversation
[11:49] <akgraner> wow
[12:04] <JanC> akgraner: the tool that pops up that dialog is 'nautilus-connect-server'
[12:04] <JanC> in case you want to make launcher item for it  ☺
[12:05] <JanC> and yay for open source
[12:05] <akgraner> JanC thanks!
[12:06] <JanC> maybe it should be added to the right-click menu of the default nautilus launcher item...
[12:07] <akgraner> clearly I don't know my nautilus from a hole in the ground...I still can't find that in unity
[12:07] <akgraner> one sec
[12:09] <akgraner> I type nautilus I get nothing
[12:09] <JanC> where do you type that?
[12:09] <JanC> Alt+F2, then start to type 'nautilus-connect-server'
[12:10] <akgraner> in the dash
[12:10]  * akgraner thinks finding some stuff in Unity will not be so easy for me...:-(
[12:12] <JanC> well, this tool is supposed to be accessible from other places, not to be used on itself, which is probably why it's not in the normal search set
[12:12] <JanC> (technically: it has no *.desktop file)
[12:12] <akgraner> ok I have it now
[12:13] <akgraner> Alt+F2 brings up the "run a command" in the dash then when I started typing nautilus I see the connect server option
[12:13] <JanC> yes, Alt+F2 searches the $PATH for executable files I suppose
[12:14] <akgraner> then I selected it and bam there was my gui I was searching for...but that wasn't so easy to find
[12:14] <JanC> while the other dashes search in some sort of metadata database
[12:16] <akgraner> but I wonder it I am just a strange hydrid of geek and non-technical person...not sure how many non-developer end users would be looking to connect to various servers to transfer stuff
[12:17] <akgraner> my husband told me last night, "learn to use the command line already" we I asked him to fix an issue with the bip server
[12:22] <JanC> a normal user shouldn't have to learn the commandline, but for many more low-level things it *is* easier/quicker (even on Windows)
[12:23] <akgraner> JanC, once again proving I am so abnormal ;-p
[12:23] <JanC> I should have used "normal"
[12:23] <akgraner> (just teasing you)
[12:23] <JanC> I know  ☺
[12:24] <akgraner> :-)
[12:24] <akgraner> but now I have something interesting to blog about
[12:25] <akgraner> my search for "connect-to-server" :-D yay!
[12:26] <JanC> akgraner: I think it should be easy for the desktop team to make it easier to find (just adding or changing a *.desktop file should be enough)
[12:27] <JanC> there is almost no risk with that, except maybe it won't get translated in time for the release
[12:27] <nigelb> hrm, randa has been on IRC lesser lately?
[12:31] <duanedesign> morning all
[13:18] <akgraner> duanedesign, morning!
[13:28] <mhall119> morning
[13:32] <akgraner> mhall119, morning...
[13:43] <akgraner> hey JFo work this into a remix :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcotlkxMsE8
[13:49] <nigelb> hello mhall119
[13:49] <nigelb> mhall119: do we have any uds-critical summit things that needed done?
[13:50] <nigelb> arg, wrong channel :|
[14:33] <mhall119> nigelb: I'd still like to get that combined webchat, audio feed link and upcoming sessions page done, cjohnston started on that during our summit jam but didn't get to finish it
[15:21] <jcastro> akgraner: yo yo
[15:25] <duanedesign> jcastro: interesting whale blog post. Looked like that was pretty cool.
[15:25] <jcastro> it was!
[15:27] <duanedesign> jcastro: ohh, also i lliked the screencasts you did about unity and dash. I have noticed that people who are on the fence about unity once you show them some of the 'tricks and tips' they get won over
[15:27] <jcastro> yeah
[15:28] <jcastro> I just learned this one
[15:28] <jcastro> hit alt-f2
[15:28] <jcastro> and then type ~Videos
[15:28] <jcastro> or some other foldername in ~
[15:49] <jcastro> duanedesign: wanna do an openweek session?
[15:51] <duanedesign> jcastro: yes I might just do that
[15:53] <duanedesign> jcastro: I can do my screencasting how-to. I have only done that one once and it has been awhile
[15:53] <jcastro> oh yeah
[15:53] <jcastro> that would be stellar
[15:54] <duanedesign> plus we really need to try and promote the screencasting team. So If i can do that session and that the end do a small plug for the team that would be awesome
[15:55] <jcastro> by all means
[15:55] <jcastro> I've done screencasts a bunch this cycle
[15:58] <duanedesign> i was wanting to add one of the unity screencasts you did to screencasts.ubuntu.com
[16:00] <jcastro> they're all CC, steal  away
[16:00] <jono> dpm, about set?
[16:00] <jcastro> they probably belong there instead of my personal blip space anyway
[16:01] <dpm> jono, yep
[16:02] <duanedesign> jcastro: cool. I was waiting a little while because it pops up on Planet when i post thenn on screencasts.ubuntu.com.
[16:02] <duanedesign> which reminds me i need to get the theme updated on that site
[16:05] <jono> dpm, brb, some technical issues
[16:05] <dpm> jono, no worries
[16:08] <dpm> hey everyone, do you know anyone who'd want to fill the gap at 19:00 UTC for today's UADW session? Jonathan Thomas has just told me he won't be able to make it -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/Timetable
[16:25] <jcastro> Daviey: can you deploy the autoslot bits soonish?
[16:25] <jcastro> Daviey: we would set a UDS record if we had the schedule filling up this week
[16:27] <Daviey> jcastro, Hopefully today.
[16:28] <jcastro> Daviey: ping me when you do, I'd like to test stuff
[16:28] <jcastro> or when it's deployed or whatever
[16:29] <Daviey> jcastro, I'd quite like to get mhall119 access btw.
[16:30] <dholbach> duanedesign, do you think we still get a development screencast done for natty?
[16:31] <dholbach> I finally got the audio and video mixed (the script didn't do it properly)
[16:31] <dholbach> I'll upload it later on
[16:31] <dholbach> the "intro to ubuntu development" one
[16:32] <duanedesign> dholbach: i think so. I have one other person willing to help with it.
[16:33] <dholbach> did they say which one they'd like to do?
[16:35] <duanedesign> dholbach: i will try and catch them on irc or email them and try and get some more specifics.
[16:35]  * dholbach hugs duanedesign
[16:35] <dholbach> thanks
[16:38] <duanedesign> dholbach: i am hoping my schedule will become more 'certain' soon. I am spending most my time now submitting resumes and writing cover letters. Hope it pays off soon and then I can spend more time on Ubuntu once I have income coming in :)
[16:38] <dholbach> I'll cross my fingers for you
[16:38] <duanedesign> thank you :)
[16:39] <duanedesign> dholbach: i really hated to miss UDS this time around. Hope it is the last one I have to miss.
[16:41] <akgraner> jcastro, yo
[16:41] <jcastro> akgraner: yo
[16:41] <akgraner> jcastro, yes :-)
[16:42] <jcastro> oh did I ping you earlier and forget what about?
[16:43] <akgraner> yes
[16:43] <akgraner> :-p
[16:43] <akgraner> no worries  just holler when you remember
[16:49] <nigelb> mhall119: I'll get to it
[16:49] <nigelb> mhall119: I'm jobless while watching app dev week :)
[16:52] <akgraner> JanC, so I just learned if you click on the home folder icon then on file in the global menu the connect to server option is there
[16:53] <akgraner> However I totally forget the hover my mouse on the panel to get that menu
[16:53] <akgraner> sorta out of sight out of mind kinda thing
[16:59] <JanC> I said it's in every nautilus window, but you probably misunderstood that
[17:00] <JanC> also, just clicking the desktop should give you that menu too
[17:01] <JanC> (but I didn't think about the desktop case, as I disable the nautilus-on-the-desktop-background feature)
[17:03] <jcastro> akgraner: oh I remember now
[17:03] <jcastro> akgraner: do I have an account on ubuntu-news?
[17:03] <jcastro> I am doing my final unity report today
[17:04] <jcastro> also, ubuntu-news is on planet right?
[17:05] <akgraner> jcastro, I thought you did but if you don't we can fix that
[17:06] <akgraner> yep it posts to the planet
[17:06] <akgraner> ubuntu the rss feedburner thing is broken but it will make it to the planet :-)
[17:07] <akgraner> grrrr enter key failure there - silly new keyboard
[17:07] <akgraner> popey, when you use record my desktop does it ever "lock-up" and not let you stop the recording
[17:07] <popey> I have not seen that
[17:08] <popey> btw I would use the keyboard shortcut to stop recording rather than the applet
[17:08] <akgraner> ahhh ok
[17:09] <popey> just looks nicer that's all :)
[17:09] <akgraner> nods
[17:10] <akgraner> I didn't even think of that
[17:10] <akgraner> thanks!
[17:10] <akgraner> jcastro, yep you have an account
[17:10] <akgraner> do you know your password?
[17:10] <akgraner> I can reset it if you want
[17:36] <akgraner> doctormo, you make me smile - :-D  http://doctormo.org/2011/04/11/quote-of-the-day/
[17:36] <doctormo> akgraner: It was up 20mins after you said it :-D
[17:39] <akgraner> hehe - I'm on some alternate time zone that puts me days not hours behind everyone else ...:-P
[17:47] <doctormo> akgraner: :-P indeed! I'm excited to be working on building a community center here. Are you still doing that magazine gig?
[17:48] <jcastro> jono: the fwd mail to me from Cezz doesn't have the logos attached, can you resend please?
[17:49]  * kim0 dances the RT dance for https://twitter.com/#!/ubuntucloud/status/57846045803159552 Please :)
[17:49] <jono> jcastro, will forward
[17:49] <jono> sent
[17:59] <jcastro> got it
[17:59] <jcastro> on it now
[17:59] <jcastro> also
[17:59] <jcastro> CHECK IT OUT: http://codereview.chromium.org/6812037
[17:59] <jcastro> BOO. YA.
[18:05] <akgraner> doctormo, yep...
[18:05] <akgraner> we now have four magazines :-)
[18:09] <doctormo> akgraner: If you guys need a piece on community centers with Ubuntu in them. Let me know.
[18:19] <dholbach> ok my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow!
[18:20] <nigelb> g'nite dholbach
[18:20] <dholbach> bye nigelb
[18:21] <maco> Technoviking: can you please rejoin -ops?
[18:55] <akgraner> doctormo, thanks!
[19:05] <Ronnie> kim0: some small addition to the wiki (the django model overview)
[19:10] <kim0> Ronnie: thanks .. will take a look
[19:44] <jcastro> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H--aVrxxkJQ
[19:44] <jcastro> Unity in 30 seconds!
[20:22] <popey> niice
[20:23] <paultag> nigelb: prod :)
[21:13] <hggdh> jcastro: yo -- on the quicklinks you published: it seems a shortcut group cannot start with an uppercase
[21:13] <hggdh> jcastro: is this a bug, or The Way Things Are?
[21:41] <jcastro> hggdh: hrmph
[21:41] <jcastro> hggdh: mine do
[21:41] <jcastro> hggdh: afaict the only limitation is it needs Shortcut Group in there
[21:50] <hggdh> heh
[21:50] <hggdh> jcastro: it is my karma, I think. I get a lot of weird errors :-)
[21:52] <hggdh> will test it a bit more later
[23:50] <mhall119> jcastro: any word on summit deployment?


[00:25] <lex79> this http://pastebin.com/gVbEq6i6 is the entry in dput.cf to upload a package into archive?
[01:10] <ScottK> lex79: http://pastebin.com/r4vj9iAZ should be all that's needed.
[01:13] <lex79> ScottK: ok,thanks
[06:10] <CIA-99> [nds] mwiese * 1144871 * (83 files in 33 dirs) Translation and maintenance
[07:14] <DarthFrog> Well, whatever was released today for KDE 4.5 RC really screwed up my system.  All I get now is a black screen. :-(
[08:49] <ghostcube> o/
[10:19] <apachelogger> 2 exams to go and then I shall be able to partially focus on important things again \o/
[10:21] <valorie> \0/
[10:21] <valorie> how close are you to your degree?
[10:27] <apachelogger> valorie: (at least) 2 more years to BSc :/
[10:27] <valorie> hey, you are another year closer!
[10:27] <apachelogger> true :)
[10:27] <valorie> AND doing important work in tandem with that effort
[10:28] <valorie> besides being fluffy
[10:28] <valorie> :-)
[10:29] <NCommander> ScottK: I'll take a loot today on it
[10:29] <apachelogger> there is nothing besides fluffy, see, everything is fluffy, be it on the outside or on the inside, fluff surrounds us, it forms us, it is the very essence of live
[10:29] <valorie> very true
[10:29]  * valorie was wearing a boa just the other day
[10:29] <valorie> lol
[10:30] <apachelogger> ^^
[10:31] <apachelogger> valorie: did I mention that qtgain should have arrived in lucid-backports by now?
[10:31] <valorie> I'll look
[10:31] <apachelogger> !info qtgain lucid-backports
[10:31] <apachelogger> voila
[10:32] <valorie> I looked a couple of days ago
[10:32] <valorie> but haven't been home much
[10:32] <valorie> or sitting in front of a computer
[10:34] <valorie> wooo hoooo
[10:34] <valorie> downloading
[10:37] <valorie> not very intuitive, is it
[10:37] <valorie> oh well
[10:39] <valorie> doesn't take long to do an album, though
[10:40] <apachelogger> valorie: I told you that the UI is about as bad as it gets with regards to intuitivity :P
[10:40] <valorie> yup
[10:40] <valorie> I hadn't seen it, just read about it
[10:40] <valorie> so at least i knew what to do
[10:40] <valorie> but geez
[10:48] <agateau> packaging noob question: is there a magic command line which would take the debian source package version $n and the tarball of $n+1 and create a new debian source package?
[10:52] <tsimpson> agateau: have a look at uupdate
[10:53] <agateau> tsimpson: looks good, thanks
[11:12] <valorie> thanks again for your work, apachelogger
[11:12] <valorie> niters
[11:24] <jussi> hrm weird. I have both ubntu and kubuntu installed, on different partitions. ubuntu installed the -pae kernel, and kubuntu the generic. what is the difference and why do ubuntu and kubuntu have differring kernels?
[11:24] <Mamarok> for some strange reason neither my ssh-agent nor my gpg-agent are loaded on start, what do I do wrong?
[11:25] <Mamarok> and the ssh-agent forgets about my RSA key on every new start
[11:56] <Mamarok> what's with kde-config-phonon-xine? it's held back since 4.5 beta 1
[11:56] <Tm_T> what is says if you try to install it?
[11:56] <Tm_T> it should say what's up with its dependencies or other conflicts
[13:21] <stikonas> shadeslayer: hi, I was trying to update to KDE 4.5 RC1 on lucid but I get lots of conflicts because of missing libqt4-assistant package, is there anything I can do to solve it?
[13:22] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1144964 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp Context on a string that could be quite mysterious otherwise
[13:22] <stikonas> It seems that libqt4-assistant just dissapeared and there are no transitional packages, so packages that depends on it causes conflics
[13:25] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1144969 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp A bit less string construction on error
[13:39]  * jussi waits for riddell to arrive
[13:53] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1144995 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (10 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[13:53] <CIA-99> Turn MuonStrings into a class that has the group and state string hashes as
[13:53] <CIA-99> member variables. This way we don't have to re-create the hash on each lookup,
[13:57] <JontheEchidna> ^was 2% of the total CPU cost over the course of clicking 22 packages, now is 0%. Not much, but something :)
[13:59] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1145002 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MuonStrings.cpp Follow the new-world branding order
[14:11] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1145010 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (MuonStrings.cpp MuonStrings.h) Const correctness fixes
[14:18] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1145015 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (ManagerWidget.cpp ReviewWidget.cpp) Hide the details widget when nothing is selected
[14:55] <oxymoron> Hi, may I ask if someone have package rekonq 0.5 release yet? :)
[15:01] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1145023 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp Use a KMessageBox::detailedError message box for commit errors, since that error has technical details
[15:02] <JontheEchidna> 0.5 hasn't been released yet
[15:03] <JontheEchidna> there is a daily ppa though: https://launchpad.net/~yoann-laissus/+archive/rekonq-ppa
[15:37] <CIA-99> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1145034 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/workerinstallprogress.cpp Fix a bug where the error string would be cut off at ':'. (For example the overwrite error of a package that has an epoch in the version)
[15:52] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1145041 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp Ensure that we can quit if we error out of a commit
[15:53] <DarthFrog> How can I back out of KDE 4.5 RC?  I did a dist-upgrade yesterday (new kernel and a bunch of new KDE packages installed).  Now my machine boots to a black screen.  Even runlevel 1 & startx only black screens.
[15:53] <oxymoron> JontheEchidna: On http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Extragear it says 30 june v0.5 to be released? :P
[15:53] <JontheEchidna> :P
[15:54] <JontheEchidna> note the (roughly) in the column name :P
[15:56] <oxymoron> JontheEchidna: So, could be in a week or so?   But there is no KDE menu entry to select. :-(
[15:58] <DarthFrog> Just default and failsafe.
[16:00] <JontheEchidna> aaaaah
[16:00] <JontheEchidna> launchpad is down
[16:00] <JontheEchidna> ~order brain
[16:00]  * kubotu shouts: OMG!!!!! RED ALERT! We lost a brain. Get me a medic, NOW!
[16:01] <oxymoron> DarthFrog: lol :D
[16:02] <oxymoron> JontheEchidna: Its Webkits fault that I cannot view a posted formular source code ... it show original source code in first post ...
[16:03] <oxymoron> JontheEchidna: But its a common problem in many browsers, the only one that solve that GOOD is firefox but it has other issues xD
[16:17] <JontheEchidna> who was having those file overwrite errors with krita yesterday?
[16:18] <JontheEchidna> (just uploaded a fix, anyway)
[16:24] <Riddell> evening, coming live from finland
[16:24] <Riddell> what's the crack with alpha 2?
[16:24]  * Trouble gives Riddell the microphone
[16:37] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: there is bug 600632
[16:40] <Riddell> that's a feature :)
[16:40] <JontheEchidna> will there be a way to choose in the future?
[16:41] <JontheEchidna> like what mario was talking about at UDS?
[16:44] <Riddell> it chooses based on screen size, you can swap after install through the kcontrol module
[16:44] <Riddell> which is what https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuMaverickPlasmaNetbookConfig says
[16:48] <Riddell> I commented on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/600632 but it showed up as jussi
[16:50] <JontheEchidna> that is a bit strange
[16:53] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: what's strange about it?
[16:53] <ScottK> That LP confuses you with jussi.
[16:54] <Riddell> oh right, my computer is broken so I'm using his and entirely forgot to log out
[16:55] <Riddell> shadeslayer: able to test any alpha 2 candidates?
[16:56] <ScottK> Still need an amd64 alternate test.
[17:04] <Riddell> I am downloading amd64 alternate but it's really slow here up in the arctic circle
[17:14] <Mamarok> Riddell: Arctic Circle is some 1000 km more North, no?
[17:15] <Mamarok> and Finland is a country with large bandwith, how come it's slow for you?
[17:18]  * ScottK suspects a bad luck interference pattern resonating from jussi.
[17:23] <Riddell> Mamarok: I'm in Oulu so I'm only about 150km from the arctic circle
[17:23] <Riddell> (I just made that figure up it might be a bit more=
[17:24] <Riddell> hmm, Finish keyboards have keys in the wrong place
[17:24] <Riddell> ScottK: being middle of nowhere city it's not the 100Mb you get in Helsinki but we tracked it down to a rouge ktorrent eating up bandwidth
[17:27] <Mamarok> Riddell: OH, you are at jussi's place?
[17:27] <Riddell> yes, his little shack in the forest
[17:28] <Riddell> well not really little, his sauna is bigger than my bathroom
[17:28] <nixternal> hot tub?
[17:29] <Riddell> hot tub's are so passe, saunas are all the rage these days
[17:30] <DarthFrog> Saunas are communal, bathrooms not so much. :-)
[17:30] <nixternal> haha
[17:31]  * Mamarok has even more reason to cry now she is not in Finland :(
[17:42] <ulysses> oh, it's alpha 2 day
[17:57] <shadeslayer> Riddell: aww.. sorry there,had a hackers-india meeting today :(
[18:01] <lex79> JontheEchidna: you should upload this fix after the freeze, bug 600722
[18:01] <lex79> I cant, it's not in the set...
[18:03] <shadeslayer> Riddell: do you know kstar?
[18:03] <shadeslayer> ( thats a nick,not a app :P )
[18:04]  * shadeslayer cant believe the number of laptop stickers he saw today....
[18:04] <Riddell> I think I've come across kstar not much more
[18:04] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yeah.. i mentioned you,and he said that he had met you once :P
[18:05] <shadeslayer> Riddell: we met today.. hes coming to akademy
[18:10] <Riddell> ah, maybe I do know him then :)
[18:11] <shadeslayer> Riddell: how much does a KDE t shirt cost at akademy ?
[18:12] <Riddell> I don't know, just depends on the local supplyer
[18:12] <Riddell> 15euro maybe
[18:12]  * shadeslayer is thinking of getting one through kstar
[18:33] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1145076 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/PackageModel/PackageDelegate.cpp "Broken" is a status, so put it in the status column
[18:40] <stikonas> lex79: hi, I was trying to update to KDE 4.5 RC1 on lucid but I get conflicts because of missing libqt4-assistant package, is there anything I can do to solve it?
[18:45] <shadeslayer> stikonas: whats the exact error?
[18:45] <lex79> stikonas: we removed that package from qt4-x11 in maverick for now (this mean also for beta backport), we are waiting for the new package
[18:45]  * shadeslayer thinks we didnt update qtcreator
[18:45] <lex79> stikonas: do you have libqt4-assistant installed?
[18:46] <stikonas> lex79: I have it installed (version 4.6.3 I think)
[18:46] <shadeslayer> lex79: then we should have a replaces
[18:46] <lex79> shadeslayer: I have qtcreator ready
[18:46] <lex79> stikonas: try to remove it
[18:46] <stikonas> and some universe packages e.g. scidavis or qtiplot depends on it :(
[18:47] <lex79> for now, if you want use RC1 you can't have  libqt4-assistant installed
[18:47] <shadeslayer> now where have i heard scidavis before
[18:48] <stikonas> it is scientific plotting application
[18:48] <stikonas> ok, so its either RC1 or libqt4-assistant. That was my error: http://pastebin.com/jZmDMKZM
[18:51] <lex79> shadeslayer: we don't need "replaces" since we don't ship libqt4-assistant files in archive :) not yet...
[18:51] <shadeslayer> lex79: why tho?
[18:52] <lex79> waiting Debian for this http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2010/06/22/qt-assistant-compat-version-available-as-extra-source-package/
[19:06] <brmassa> guys, im suffering from a bug vastly reported in ubuntu forums, but i couldnt find a solution: XOrg and Plasma constantly grow... is there a fix?
[19:10] <shadeslayer> brmassa: heh..
[19:10] <shadeslayer> brmassa: use a ligher WM
[19:11] <brmassa> shadeslayer: the problem is the kdm?
[19:11] <shadeslayer> brmassa: nooo
[19:11] <shadeslayer> brmassa: KDM == login manager
[19:11] <shadeslayer> brmassa: wm == window manager,like kwin
[19:12] <brmassa> shadeslayer: what im reporting is a bug. both Xorg and plasma-desktop processes continually grow... even if the computer is idle.. they are now consuming 300m together..
[19:12] <brmassa> shadeslayer: also they are consuming 20% CPU EACH
[19:13]  * shadeslayer checks
[19:13] <shadeslayer> brmassa: only 200 MB here.. but then its on for only a few hours
[19:14] <brmassa> shadeslayer: even that. in older versions (that used kde3.5), u could left it running for days.
[19:15] <shadeslayer> brmassa: well.. i dont know what could be causing the exact leak :(
[19:16] <brmassa> shadeslayer: yep... there are several topics in forums... but i could not find a definitive solution
[19:17] <brmassa> shadeslayer: btw: plama-desktop, in these few minutes, is now 30mb bigger
[19:17] <amichair> brmassa: I had the same problem for a long time, but as of 4.4.4 (iirc) plasma no longer leaks
[19:17] <shadeslayer> 0_o
[19:17] <amichair> brmassa: the ktorrent plasmoid leaks bad though, are you using it?
[19:18] <brmassa> amichair: im in 4.4.2, kubuntu 10.04
[19:18] <amichair> brmassa: so upgrading might fix at least some of the problem
[19:19] <brmassa> amichair: nope. the only plasmoid are those installed by default: panel, clock, sys tray and folder view...
[19:19] <amichair> I still see xorg grow a bit, but nothing as bad as before
[19:20] <brmassa> amichair: 4.4.4 is on default repositories? i mean, officially supported?
[19:20] <brmassa> amichair: i can (and probably will) update, IF its the real cause of the leak...
[19:20] <amichair> it's in the kubuntu updates ppa
[19:21] <amichair> brmassa: all I can help you with is my personal anecdote :-)
[19:21] <brmassa> amichair: thanks anyway
[19:21] <amichair> my plasma would grow to 1G after a couple weeks of uptime. For months. It doesn't anymore, and an upgrade did that.
[19:22] <brmassa> 1G! jezz!
[19:23] <amichair> yep...
[19:25] <amichair> brmassa: btw as of a couple days ago kde 4.4.5 is in the ppa - even better :-)
[19:26] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1145085 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/DetailsTabs/MainTab.cpp Confirm the removal of essential packages
[19:33] <lex79> ScottK, JontheEchidna: I can't upload kdebase-workspace :(
[19:43] <shadeslayer> grumble
[19:43] <shadeslayer> i dont haz ubuntu.com mail address
[19:44] <shadeslayer> anysysadmin^^
[19:46] <tsimpson> shadeslayer: it usually takes a couple of days to activate the address, but you can poke someone in #canonical-sysadmin if it hasen't happened
[19:46] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: im following instructions from wiki,waited 2 days :P
[20:17] <shadeslayer> Riddell: poke : http://www.flickr.com/photos/pratulkalia/4752774284/ : "D
[20:18] <shadeslayer> thats from our hackers india meet today :P
[20:18] <shadeslayer> well.. if anyone wants to see :P http://www.flickr.com/photos/pratulkalia/4752774284/
[20:19] <shadeslayer> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pratulkalia/4752801894/ : is a better one tho..
[20:19] <CIA-99> [muon] jmthomas * 1145102 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/DetailsTabs/MainTab.cpp ...also handle the case where a non-essential package is being removed. ;)
[20:29] <shadeslayer> maco: http://members.bas.org.in/kstar/himeetup/IMG_4579.JPG
[20:29] <shadeslayer> and http://members.bas.org.in/kstar/himeetup/IMG_4581.JPG
[20:30] <shadeslayer> stickers to cover the entire earth!
[21:27] <neversfelde> ofirk_: you wrote an article about Quassel in the Ubuntu wiki, right? I cannot find it, can you give me the URL? We probably want to translate it to German.
[21:27] <ofirk_> neversfelde: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Quassel
[21:28] <neversfelde> ofirk_: thanks
[21:30] <shadeslayer> ofirk_: is your email alias working ?
[21:30] <ofirk_> shadeslayer: I'm not sure
[21:30] <ofirk_> didn't have time to test it?
[21:31] <ofirk_> shadeslayer: yours?
[21:31] <shadeslayer> nope
[21:31] <shadeslayer> :P
[21:38] <ofirk_> shadeslayer: the guide said that if you have gmail, you can't use it to send yourself an email
[21:40] <maco> Rekonq crashes a lot :(
[21:43] <ofirk_> maco: indeed
[21:44] <maco> im trying not to install firefox in my maverick vm
[21:44] <ofirk_> shadeslayer: I just checked and the alias isn't working yet
[21:44] <maco> this means im doing a lot more web browsing from the windows host than i'd prefer to contribute to browser stats
[21:44]  * maco goes to install user agent switcher
[21:44] <ofirk_> shadeslayer: the guide says to wait at least 48 hours and to give it a couple of days to be sure
[21:45] <ofirk_> shadeslayer: so I guess we will wait :)
[21:45] <neversfelde> as far as I remeber it took more than two weeks, till my Ubuntu adress worked
[21:47] <Riddell> evening
[21:47] <Riddell> and what a sunny evening it is, 20 minutes to midnight and still broud daylight
[21:51] <neversfelde> evening Riddell
[21:54] <Riddell> meh, I can't put a story on kubuntu.org, browser keeps crashing
[21:55] <Riddell> claydoh: any chance of an alpha 2 page?
[21:57] <Sput> maco: there's also arora and chrome
[21:58] <maco> Sput: ive used arora before. its sloooooowwww just like rekonq. loads a page halfway then sits there twiddling its thumbs for a while before going "huh? oh, were you waiting on ME?"
[21:58]  * Sput still likes konqueror best tbh
[21:59] <Sput> looks like they fixed facebook even
[22:06] <claydoh> Riddell: sure, if you don't mind a shorter one than usual
[22:11] <Riddell> claydoh: switch to rekonq and merging desktop and netbook CD image are the headline ones
[22:12] <claydoh> Riddell: the merging, what does that entail?
[22:12] <Riddell> claydoh: one image which loads either desktop or netbook workspace based on screen size
[22:13] <Riddell> you can switch with system settings if you don't like it
[22:13]  * claydoh is behind the times, major inspection @ werk this week, which we nearly aced :)
[22:13] <claydoh> Riddell: sweet feature
[22:14] <claydoh> i am on it
[22:15] <claydoh> as long as rekonq behaves :)
[22:54] <nixternal> oi oi
[23:50] <lex79> ScottK: kdeutils is in binary new https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/4:4.4.90-0ubuntu2


[02:53] <Unit193> bluesabre: Oh, do we/does anyone care about hamster?
[20:15] <knome> maybe somebody from the docs team could answer that persian guy about translations
[20:33] <flocculant> talking of translations - never seen this before, Quicklauncher properties on my system http://i.imgur.com/sSg65O6.png
[20:37] <knome> heh
[20:37] <knome> maybe french is in the source...
[20:37] <flocculant> knome: what's the difference between msgid and msgstr in a .po ?
[20:38] <flocculant> en.po is half english and half french :)
[20:38] <knome> id is the source, str is the translated
[20:39] <knome> eg. "Translate msgid to msgstr"
[20:39] <flocculant> ok - so half of the source is English, the other half is French :p
[20:39] <knome> yep, then it's no "surprise" that this happens for you
[20:39] <flocculant> :)
[20:40] <flocculant> no surprise if I'd seen the .po first :D
[20:40] <knome> yep
[20:41] <flocculant> and the fr.po is half english too :D
[20:41] <knome> should be
[20:41] <knome> as the software needs to know which source string to translate to the msgstr string
[20:43] <flocculant> knome: then I'm confused by 'id is source, str is translated' looking at the the 2 .po's side by side :)
[20:44] <knome> msgid should be all english in all files
[20:44] <flocculant> ok - so then it's wrong
[20:44] <knome> indeed
[20:44]  * flocculant then wonders if he can find the interest in dealing with this :p
[20:44] <flocculant> s/then/now
[20:44] <knome> who's the maintainer?
[20:45] <flocculant> where would I find that?
[20:46] <flocculant> blimey - last changelog date is about when I first installed Feisty :D
[20:47] <knome> https://github.com/xfce-mirror/xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin/blob/master/AUTHORS
[20:47] <flocculant> oh right - yea got that from source I grabbed
[20:47] <knome> if it's really that old, and the author is not around any more, i'm pretty sure simon and others could help get that fixed
[20:48] <flocculant> looks to me like most of the .po's have non-english msgid
[20:49] <flocculant> if it is the case that msgid should be english in all cases, perhaps I'll see how to fix it
[20:49] <knome> indeed it should
[20:50] <knome> well
[20:50] <knome> if the source strings in the source CODE are french, then the msgid's should be in french in order for the translations to work
[20:50] <knome> but that would still be wrong - as the source language should be english everywhere
[20:53] <knome> https://github.com/xfce-mirror/xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin/blob/master/panel-plugin/callbacks.c#L124
[20:53] <knome> here it looks like it's fixed
[20:56] <flocculant> not sure what that's showing me :)
[20:59] <knome> that line means the source translation should have  msgid "Space between launchers:"
[20:59] <knome> not  msgid "Escape entre les lanceurs :"  as your .po likely says
[21:00] <flocculant> oic sorry
[21:00] <knome> no worries
[21:01] <flocculant> never spent so long talking about something french since 1979 ...
[21:01] <knome> ;)=
[21:02] <flocculant> I guess first thing I should do is report it at bugzilla
[21:02] <knome> probably
[21:02] <flocculant> assuming that msgid should be en, then I can list all the non en lines there
[21:03] <knome> again considering the newest source code doesn't seem to have anything in french :/
[21:03] <knome> i mean anything that shouldn'y..
[21:03] <knome> t too
[21:04] <flocculant> yea
[21:05] <flocculant> so actually no bug as such - just what I have is 'old'
[21:05] <knome> likely
[21:05] <knome> or something else is wrong
[21:05] <flocculant> knome: well thanks for all of that - learnt 2 things this evening :)
[21:05] <knome> np
[21:07] <flocculant> night :)
[21:07] <knome> nighty


[12:18] <kiko> seb128, if you want products created for you, just /msg me on IRC
[12:18] <seb128> kiko: well, I mention it because I faced the problem some days ago and just dropped on the trunk entry
[12:18] <kiko> I can have it done and will ping you back in record time
[12:18] <seb128> kiko: ok, thank you
[12:18] <Fujitsu> You actually expect most to get registered? I find it somewhat unlikely.
[12:19] <kiko> over time? sure I do
[12:19] <seb128> kiko: just by curiosity is there any page explaining what the upstream trunk question is about?
[12:19] <seb128> because the launchpad page doesn't make clear what it's asking for and where to find that information
[12:20] <Fujitsu> Launchpad is mutually exclusive with documentation, from what I've seen :(
[12:20] <kiko> there is no trunk question, seb128 -- is there?
[12:20] <seb128> "Product Serie"
[12:20] <kiko> https://launchpad.net/products/+new
[12:20] <seb128> "Product Series" to be exact
[12:20] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/+source/gtkhtml3.8/+packaging
[12:20] <kiko> seb128, we do that all for you
[12:20] <seb128> by example
[12:20] <seb128> "Launchpad does not know the upstream product series for this package. If you know the correct details, please enter them carefully."
[12:20] <kiko> seb128, link the other way around -- product to package
[12:20] <kiko> and it's easier
[12:20] <seb128> well, I come from a bug on the package
[12:20] <kiko> there are bugs filed on that actually
[12:20] <seb128> and clicked on upstream task
[12:21] <seb128> which brought me there
[12:21] <Fujitsu> kiko, ahhhhh. I didn't think of doing it the other way when I tried it.
[12:21] <kiko> seb128, that page is a disgrace on humanity
[12:21] <seb128> kiko: if somebody could create a product for gtkhtml3.8 that would be nice
[12:22] <seb128> I don't fancy having to figure a description for it and a summary
[12:22] <kiko> is that libgtkhtml, seb128?
[12:22] <seb128> kiko: no, that's gtkhtml from evolution
[12:22] <kiko> seb128, http://directory.fsf.org/webauth/htmlpreproc/gtkhtml.html ?
[12:23] <seb128> kiko: that's it
[12:23] <seb128> hum
[12:23] <seb128> no, wait
[12:24] <kiko> seb128, I have it at the tip of my finger...
[12:25] <seb128> kiko: http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gtkhtml/
[12:25] <kiko> it's the same thing
[12:26] <seb128> from the page you pointed: "Version 3.0.10 (stable) released on 2003-09-18 00:00:00.000"
[12:26] <kiko> that page is old
[12:26] <seb128> maybe the page is only outdated
[12:26] <seb128> ok
[12:26] <kiko> it's andersca's gtkhtml
[12:26] <kiko> seb128, created and linked to gtkhtml3.8
[12:26] <kiko> https://launchpad.net/products/gtkhtml/
[12:27] <seb128> kiko: thank you
[12:27] <kiko> see the Distro Packages box? I did that!
[12:27] <kiko> technology my man
[12:27] <seb128> sorry for complaining ;)
[12:27] <kiko> seb128, complaints are key to improvement
[12:27] <kiko> seb128, if you have more products to register just send them my way
[12:27] <seb128> but having to figure upstream website, description, serie, etc was just too much to do
[12:27] <kiko> and tell dholbach he can if he ever complains
[12:28] <kiko> I just copy n paste
[12:28] <seb128> I just wanted to open an upstream task :p
[12:28] <kiko> and live with the wreckage
[12:28] <kiko> heh
[12:28] <kiko> what is it now LarstiQ
[12:28] <seb128> kiko: ok :)
[12:28] <LarstiQ> kiko: autotools-dev in https://launchpad.net/products/bzr/+packages
[12:28] <kiko> LarstiQ, jesus that's such an old request
[12:28] <kiko> stub's a slacker
[12:29] <LarstiQ> I know I've complained about it before :)
[12:29] <kiko> SteveA, what should we do about admin tasks that need to be handled by the DBA but never get done?
[12:29] <kiko> beyond hanging dead chickens around his house in thailand
[12:29] <kiko> I didn't mean it
[12:30] <SteveA> dead chickens?
[12:30] <kiko> bad omens
[12:30] <SteveA> they'll end up on the bbq sticks at the nearest rat-on-a-stick stall
[12:31] <kiko> is this your way of not answering my question
[12:31] <kiko> Contributors: James Henstridge<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:31] <kiko> as usual
[12:38] <SteveA> that was such a rhetorical question
[12:38] <SteveA> followed by another rhetorical question
[12:39] <kiko> SteveA, it's 9:40pm
[12:39] <kiko> what do you expect from me
[12:39] <LarstiQ> yet more rhetorical questions.
[12:39] <kiko> what is the meaning of life?
[12:40] <SteveA> hmm... 12.40 am
[12:40] <SteveA> bedtime
[12:40] <kiko> no gym for overtime SteveA tonight
[12:41] <LarstiQ> SteveA: http://bazaar-vcs.org/NlSprint in case you hadn't seen it yet.
[12:46] <SteveA> LarstiQ: thanks.  did you mail the python-nl list about it?
[12:47] <SteveA> maybe it would be an interesting intro to bzr
[12:47] <LarstiQ> SteveA: not yet, I'd like to get some more meat to it first.
[12:47] <SteveA> ok
[12:47] <SteveA> so, it can be at my place so long as I'm at home
[12:48] <SteveA> my only trip so far is pycon at the end of feb
[12:48] <LarstiQ> right, coordinating the timing is the biggest thing I wanted to tackle :)
[12:48] <LarstiQ> SteveA: sleep well
[12:48] <SteveA> thanks
[01:26] <LarstiQ> kiko: the blender vcs-import lags behind cvs, is there an intent written down somewhere for what vcs-imports tries to achieve?
[01:27] <kiko> what it tries to do when importing you mean, the nitty gritty, LarstiQ?
[01:28] <LarstiQ> kiko: rather, the 'guarantees' for how close it tracks upstream
[01:28] <LarstiQ> it's a day behind, which is enough for me not to be of much use
[01:29] <kiko> I asked ddaa about this recently
[01:29] <kiko> I think we can be up to 24h behind
[01:29] <kiko> and I /think/ there are ways to customize this interval per-project if you talk tohim
[01:30] <LarstiQ> kiko: will do that then.
[01:30] <kiko> let me know the outcome
[01:30] <kiko> I'm curious
[01:32] <LarstiQ> to bed for now
[01:32] <kiko> I liked christel's lart there
[01:32] <kiko> it sounded dead honest
[01:33] <LarstiQ> kiko: wrong channel?
[01:33] <kiko> the global notice
[01:33] <kiko> did you miss it?
[01:33] <thumper> kiko: I missed it
[01:33] <kiko> thumper, do you know the answer to LarstiQ's indagation?
[01:34] <thumper> kiko: you mean minimising the time lag for LarstiQ's imports?
[01:35] <kiko> well yes, and also just explaining what the lag is about.
[01:35] <thumper> lag is due to cron
[01:35] <kiko> cron's easy to fix :)
[01:35] <thumper> and the frequence that things are checked
[01:35] <thumper> I don't understand the internals yet
[01:36] <thumper> but I have a plan
[01:36] <LarstiQ> presumably there is a reason things are checked at the current frequency?
[01:36] <thumper> I just have to fight the gods of cron
[01:36] <LarstiQ> thumper: a cunning plan I hope.
[01:36] <thumper> LarstiQ: a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel
[01:36] <thumper> LarstiQ: histerical reasons probably, not too sure
[01:37] <LarstiQ> ah yes, the hysterical raisins.
[01:37] <LarstiQ> ddaa has told me about those before.
[01:54] <kiko-zzz> high fives all around, zzzz
[03:01] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!
[03:08] <somerville32> :D
[03:10] <Fujitsu> Hi mpt.
[04:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #76832 in malone "Simplify requesting a fix for older versions of software / product" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/76832
[05:57] <Hobbsee> awww, no people.  to anyone who sees this later, i'm looking to change where my<EMAIL_ADDRESS>&&<EMAIL_ADDRESS>point to - i've got my new address listed as the primary address in LP - will this automatically sync, and repoint my mail, or does someone need to do this manually?
[06:35] <mpt> Hobbsee, I think it happens automatically
[06:35] <mpt> Try e-mailing yourself @ubuntu.com and see :-)
[06:46] <Hobbsee> mpt: excellent, it has :)
[06:46] <Hobbsee> i think
[06:47] <Hobbsee> i seem to be getting rejected mails and bugmails
[09:03] <carlos> morning
[09:03] <Hobbsee> hey carlos
[09:06] <Hobbsee> mpt: you said it would be automatic for @ubuntu.com emails - why hasnt it for @kubuntu.org?  did you happen to know?
[09:21] <mpt> Hobbsee, I don't know anything about kubuntu.org, sorry
[09:21] <Hobbsee> okay
[09:42] <mdke> Hobbsee: you need elmo
[09:43] <Hobbsee> mdke: right, okay
[09:43] <Hobbsee> elmo: ping?
[09:43] <Hobbsee> it didnt matter till i changed where my email pointed to - argh!  ;P
[09:45] <kiko-zzz> yawn
[09:45] <kiko-zzz> what's going on
[09:46] <Hobbsee> hey kiko-zzz
[09:46] <kiko-zzz> I have been sandbagged by my cycling companions
[09:46] <kiko-zzz> but I will prevail
[09:47] <Fujitsu> Evening, kiko-zzz.
[10:09] <matthewrevell> mpt: ooh, thanks
[10:12] <matthewrevell> mpt: Is this a Matthew-only love-in, or can anyone join in? :)
[10:12] <SteveA> there are enough matts at Canonical for a full on orgy, matthewrevell
[10:18] <mpt> that is NOT the mission of the Matthew Cabal
[11:55] <cprov> good morning
[12:02] <carlos> danilos: ok, so TranslationReview implementation is done. Now is time to fix all bugs and the spec will be finished
[12:03] <carlos> it's a pity that javascript cannot be tested...
[12:03] <danilos> carlos: wow, great :)
[12:03] <danilos> carlos: yeah, but there was some discussion (on the list?) about considering it
[12:03] <carlos> I know
[12:03] <carlos> I filed a bug yesterday
[12:04] <carlos> to track its status
[12:10] <SteveA> matthewrevell: hi
[12:12] <matthewrevell> SteveA: hey
[12:12] <SteveA> matthewrevell: how about a voice call?
[12:12] <matthewrevell> Yeah, sounds good
[12:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #76854 in launchpad "Launchpad does not understand bzr+ssh: urls" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/76854
[01:34] <kiko> hi pie
[01:59] <heiko> i've been googling for that a lot, but couldn't find anything about it: i've repeatedly verified on different devices that upgrading from dapper->edgy as well as edgy->feisty breaks wlan for me. is there already a bug report for that? would it make sense to create one?
[02:01] <salgado> heiko, the right channel to ask that is #ubuntu. but you may also search in https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs to see if it's already reported
[02:02] <heiko> i've asked on #ubuntu a number of times, so i figured that maybe people who are slightly more technical could be found here.
[02:05] <matsubara> heiko: #ubuntu-bugs
[02:06] <matsubara> heiko: a lot of the BugSquad team members hang there, so it's the best place to find out about already reported bugs on ubuntu
[02:06] <heiko> cool, thanks
[02:07] <kiko> carlos, sent a review your way
[02:07] <kiko> Hobbsee, am I going to be able to send out DVDs before the new year?
[02:07] <carlos> kiko: cool, thanks!
[02:07] <Hobbsee> kiko: dunno.  i've been at work and such.  and today been doing some very crucial testing.  supertux :P
[02:08] <kiko> Hobbsee, come on.. those studios need to make a living through copyrights you know!
[02:17] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:18] <kiko> Hobbsee, can you find out how we stand and let me know?
[02:21] <Hobbsee> kiko: as in, how many bugs left?
[02:21] <Hobbsee> kiko: my email is in limbo.  but perhaps
[02:21] <kiko> and as in, how the activity has been lately
[02:21] <Hobbsee> oh right
[02:21] <Hobbsee> there have been some groups that have done a whole heap of work - ubuntu-chicago is one
[02:22] <kiko> oh really
[02:23] <Hobbsee> yep
[02:29] <cprov> kiko: check the fix for bug 59443 in https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/pending-reviews/cprov/launchpad/trivialities/full-diff, if you have time
[02:29] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 59443 in soyuz "Soyuz should send announce messages for backports to different list" [High,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/59443 - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov)
[02:35] <ddaa> SteveA: handed over a fixed and customised svn2bzr as well as a conversion of the svn dump to ignas on #schooltool
[02:35] <ddaa> as well as some explanations of where I expect there would be problems with the converted data
[02:35] <SteveA> ddaa: handed over to whom?
[02:36] <ddaa> to ignas
[02:36] <SteveA> that's great.  thanks for doing it, and thanks for telling me.
[02:36] <SteveA> what does ignas think about it?
[02:36] <SteveA> is he happy?
[02:36] <ddaa> he sounds happy that I got it working :)
[02:36] <ddaa> I gave my email and asked him to tell me about specific problem he needs fixed.
[02:37] <ddaa> I know that svn2bzr is not reusing file-ids as much as it could.
[02:38] <ddaa> so I explained that I expected some problem with merging active branches
[03:35] <LapTop006> I have an entry for "fix-it Friday" (even if it's gone saturday here ;-), bugs 74748 and 74749, with a beer or equivilent as bonus
[03:35] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 74748 in launchpad ""Select a Person or Team" should use default term" [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/74748
[03:35] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 74749 in launchpad ""Select a Person or Team" needs to be themed" [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/74749
[03:38] <LarstiQ> ddaa: blender vcs-imports lags by at least a day right now. To what could the frequency of updating be increased if I asked nicely?
[03:48] <ddaa> LarstiQ: the frequency of importing can be increased, but the published vcs-imports branches are still updated once a day.
[03:48] <ddaa> LarstiQ: I happen to have just committed a patch that would allow fixing this :)
[03:49] <ddaa> So I'll make it FiF patch to actually fix the branch puller.
[03:50] <salgado> LapTop006, I'm afraid most of the launchpad developers are already on vacation, so it's not going to be easy to find somebody to do that. :/
[03:50] <salgado> I'd do that myself, but I have a couple things I need to finish before leaving on vacation
[03:51] <LapTop006> hmm
[03:57] <ddaa> LarstiQ: as a matter of fact, the blender import botched on the last sync
[04:01] <LarstiQ> ddaa: what made it botch?
[04:02] <ddaa> not obvious, a file appeared modified in the final cross-check
[04:02] <ddaa> might be a commit-in-progress race, or a CVS repo surgery
[04:03] <ddaa> running the sync again to see if it works
[04:03] <ddaa> or maybe it was "created", I never quite remember what the notation means...
[04:06] <ddaa> or might be a new bug :)
[04:08] <ddaa> LarstiQ: okay, it passed now
[04:08] <ddaa> probably it was a cvs commit race.
[04:08] <LarstiQ> ddaa: thanks
[04:08] <ddaa> it still going to be a while before the published branch gets updated
[04:08] <ddaa> sorry about this
[04:09] <ddaa> I'll be hacking on it once I'm done with the daily herding of new imports.
[04:10] <LarstiQ> ddaa: is that mainly a cron issue?
[04:11] <ddaa> cron? :)
[04:11] <ddaa> it's a scheduling issue
[04:11] <ddaa> we have a cronscript that runs every 10 mins, but it does not update all branches all the time
[04:11] <ddaa> for reasons that I think are obvious :)
[04:12] <ddaa> and up to now, we had no way to know that vcs-imports branch needed updating
[04:12] <ddaa> well.. no reliable way
[04:16] <LarstiQ> right
[04:18] <ddaa> one day, we'll have a daemon, and message-based system to have near-zero latency
[04:20] <LarstiQ> ddaa: that would be sweet. Is there anyone going to work on that in the near future?
[04:20] <ddaa> nope
[04:20] <ddaa> there are many things we can do to improve the latency and the robustness of the system before this
[04:21] <ddaa> BTW, it would be cool to have a system to get notifications from postgres. Something like "if a new row appears on this table, call this method".
[04:21] <ddaa> kiko: do you know if such a thing is possible today?
[04:21] <LarstiQ> just a trigger?
[04:21] <ddaa> no, an application method
[04:22] <ddaa> not a database method
[04:22] <ddaa> otherwise we'd need another channel (xmlrpc presumably) for notifications, or we would have to poll the database.
[04:22] <ddaa> none of which are extremely desirable
[04:35] <LarstiQ> ddaa: barring the message-based system, what improvements to the latency can I expect?
[04:36] <ddaa> For a CVS repo, we will have a sync every 12h, published within 10 mins after sync.
[04:36] <ddaa> At some point during January.
[04:36] <ddaa> we cannot increase the frequency too much because cscvs does not deal well with commits in progress
[04:37] <LarstiQ> yet you can still get that race condition every sync?
[04:37] <ddaa> yes
[04:38] <ddaa> but it's rare
[04:38] <ddaa> the problem is rather when the race condition occurs but is not detected
[04:38] <ddaa> then the cvs commit can get imported as two bzr commits
[04:39] <ddaa> though... good thing... the way importd is set up now, if the race is detected, the split commit is not recorded...
[04:39] <ddaa> previously, in the case we just had, the split commit was recorded on the first attempt, and stored in the cscvs catalog permanently.
[04:40] <ddaa> Which sucks because then the catalog cannot be rebuilt from scratch.
[04:40] <LarstiQ> how does the 12h help? give the human more time for review?
[04:40] <ddaa> reduces the amount of split commits we get
[04:40] <ddaa> for some cvs repo, commit time can be quite long
[04:40] <ddaa> like... hours...
[04:41] <ddaa> the number of split commits we get in a time period is linear of the sync frequency, but grows explosively if the sync delay is not >> cvs commit duration.
[04:42] <ddaa> something about cvs sucking really badly, you know...
[04:42] <ddaa> svn is better behaved, so the default will be 6h. It's mostly bounded by some things that can be optimised in our system.
[04:46] <ddaa> LarstiQ: also, for most of our use cases, we do not really need imports that up-to-date to the minute.
[05:11] <LarstiQ> ddaa: I understand, 6 hours would already be bearable for me
[05:11] <ddaa> but blender is cvs :)
[05:11] <ddaa> if I were master of the world...
[05:12] <ddaa> I'd give an ultimatum to all the CVS users out there...
[05:12] <LarstiQ> ddaa: well, I can't well advocate the usage of bzr without a good conversion to play with :)
[05:13] <ddaa> "Please guys, get your act toghether and move into the third millenium. Anobody who's still running a CVS server next year will be put in jail."
[05:13] <ddaa> mh
[05:13] <ddaa> "next month"
[05:13] <ddaa> If I were master of the world I would not be this patient :)
[05:14] <ddaa> LarstiQ: I understand. And I'm working right now to fix the "one day latency" problem.
[05:15] <LarstiQ> ddaa: it won't go down under 12h though, if I understood you
[05:15] <ddaa> Well
[05:15] <ddaa> On special request I will be able to set it to arbitrary values.
[05:15] <ddaa> Like 'one week' ;-)
[05:16] <ddaa> or "one hour"
[05:16] <ddaa> then there will also be a UI to allow user to set it.
[05:17] <ddaa> but this UI would depend on not running buildbot to schedule the imports.
[05:17] <ddaa> (for complicated annoying reason that have to do with the limitation of buildbot)
[05:17] <ddaa> (throw in some "s" in the previous sentence)
[05:18] <carlos> If I don't see you next week. Merry Christmas and a happy new year!
[05:18] <ddaa> LarstiQ: so, next month I'll be able to set blender to any reasonable sync interval, since there seem to be a good reason.
[05:19] <ddaa> using database access superpowers
[05:19] <LarstiQ> wee :)
[05:23] <kiko> ddaa, I don't think so
[05:24] <ddaa> can you ask jamesh to implement it next week? kthxbye!
[05:25] <kiko> lol
[05:25] <ddaa> looks like kiko's IRC client has a bug triggered by the string "lol"...
[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #76903 in launchpad "+claim page for a team crashes" [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/76903
[12:00] <mpt> Goooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!