[11:09] <jussi01> jari: one moment while i install audacity and have a look.
[11:10] <jari> thanks
[11:10] <homercycles> Does anybody know of any trickery to get the regular expression match working when setting a window-specific setting in KDE for a particular window and matching on the window's title?  I'm trying to remember the window position of the Thunderbird read message window but it keeps loading at the extreme top/right of the screen and it's bugging me to tears :-(
[11:10] <jussi01> !nickspam > Jezzee|
[11:11] <homercycles> Regexes I've tried are:    m/\s-\sThunderbird$/    and    " - Thunderbird$"  (I have no idea of the syntax KDE expects, and the "edit" button to edit the regex doesn't work, either)
[11:11] <pag> jari, Audacity has some problems with arts, so disabling it (kcontrol -> sound -> sound system) might help
[11:12] <jussi01> homercycles: I beleive you can change it with a gui in system settings -> window behavior
[11:12] <hungrymouse> jussi01, i think the syntax is !nickspam | Jezzee|
[11:13] <jussi01> !nickspam > hungrymouse
[11:13] <hungrymouse> (pipe insted of right triangle)
[11:13] <jussi01> :)
[11:13] <ardchoille> :)
[11:13] <hungrymouse> oh, it sends a pm :P
[11:13] <hungrymouse> didnt kno that one lol
[11:13] <homercycles> GUI doesn't load when using the System Settings version of that either, jussi01 :-(
[11:15] <jari> pag, im unable to find arts from there
[11:15] <jari> I have krec as well and krecord
[11:15] <pag> jari, just uncheck "Enable the Sound System"
[11:16] <pag> jari, oh.. try with them then, instead of Audacity.
[11:16] <Hamra> what can i do if the title bar of a windows appeared above the screen? i can maximise \ from the taskbar, but i want it "restore", and move it around :S
[11:16] <jussi01> jari: ok, have you tried Audacity - edit -> preferences - select logitec from there for the recoding device
[11:17] <jussi01> Hamra: just right click on the item in the task bar and click move
[11:17] <homercycles> I might go for a centered window placement by default instead of Smart
[11:17] <jussi01> homercycles: I much prefer that
[11:17] <homercycles> I would prefer it if Linux could just remember the position of the window and not mess with it, much the same as Windows XP does
[11:18] <homercycles> I have managed to configure settings for most of my common windows so that they appear in places where I want them, but this Thunderbird message window regex just won't play ball
[11:19] <jari> jussi01: I was able to select the mic but now audacity says what it cannot open the device
[11:19] <jussi01> jari: make sure nothing else is using it - like amarok etc
[11:22] <jari> jussi01: ok there shouldnt be anything using it, the recording was possible while there was no mic before but that should mean the devices are free
[11:24] <homercycles> I got the regex working if I just type "Thunderbird$" (without the quotes)... getting it to match " - " before the Thunderbird isn't so easy, it seems
[11:25] <homercycles> \s matches a space, and I didn't think a dash was a special character, but I tried escaping it anyway. Still no match
[11:25] <jari> should I go with sound system enabled or disabled?
[11:27] <jari> brb, going to boot
[11:28] <jussi01> doh
[11:31] <jussi01> jari: I figured it out
[11:31] <jari> great
[11:32] <jussi01> jari: just go to prefs again, and just below the place you select the mic, choose 1 channel -mono
[11:32] <jari> funny I just did that and now it records but no sound
[11:33] <jussi01> jari: go to kmix, and make sure mic boost is on, and the mic volume is turned up
[11:33] <jari> jussi01: I just did that , too, the mic had its own settins there and its now turned up
[11:35] <jussi01> jari: so is it working now?
[11:35] <jari> sorry no it isnt
[11:35] <jussi01> jari: ok, so when you went to kmix, did you select the logitec from the dropå down?
[11:35] <jari> yep
[11:35] <jussi01> gah, stupid swedish å
[11:36] <jussi01> jari: ok, and the little red light for the mic is on?
[11:36] <jari> its called AK5370 ...
[11:36] <jari> yes
[11:36] <jussi01> hmmm
[11:37] <jussi01> jari: it should just work - try playing with different settings. mine works fine here
[11:40] <jari> ok thanks so far however
[11:40] <jussi01> jari: sorri I cpouldnt be more helpful
[11:41] <jussi01> jari: one more thing to try, type: alsamixer in konsole and play there
[11:41] <jari> ok thanks
[11:42] <jari> I wonder if the usb port matters
[11:42] <jussi01> jari: I doubt it
[11:43] <jussi01> the fact its recording from the device just tells me it is muted somewhere
[11:43] <jussi01> jari: check your volumes everywhere
[11:43] <jari> it shows always usb hw 1,0 in audacity no matter in what port it is so I wonder if linux rechecks the usb
[11:44] <jussi01> jari: yes, thats corect behaviour
[11:44] <jari> ok
[11:45] <jussi01> jari: Im certain its a volume thing - something is muted or not selected somewhere.
[11:47] <wubuntu> hi, I've a problem during installation of kde4: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4_4%3a3.97.0-1ubuntu5~gutsy1~ppa3_all.deb
[11:47] <wubuntu> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)   Can anybody help me?
[11:47] <jussi01> !brokenkde4 | wubuntu
[11:47] <ubotu> wubuntu: If you're having trouble installing KDE4, in a !Terminal run: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | grep "4:3.97.0" |awk '{print $2}') » then run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » - After that install KDE4 as normal
[11:48] <wubuntu> ok, I'll try that
[11:49] <jussi01> :)
[11:50] <jari> ok thanks for everything
[11:59] <wubuntu> IT WORKS! THANX and Merry Christmas! :-D
[11:59] <jussi01> wubuntu: np's :)
[12:01] <effie_jayx> Hello all I just switched to kubuntu :D
[12:02] <jussi01> effie_jayx: Cool!
[12:02] <ardchoille> effie_jayx: Good job!
[12:02] <jussi01> effie_jayx: do you have some q's for us?
[12:03] <effie_jayx> jussi01: not yet... I had playd with it for a while... on a live cd
[12:03] <jussi01> effie_jayx: :)
[12:03] <effie_jayx> I have used ubuntu for two years
[12:03] <effie_jayx> so I can get around... I guess :D
[12:03] <jussi01> effie_jayx: yeps, I remembere you ;)
[12:03] <effie_jayx> jussi01: really ?
[12:04] <jussi01> effie_jayx: youve been around in other places I hang out ;)
[12:04] <effie_jayx> jussi01:  is hter a menu editor i ked
[12:05] <effie_jayx> I need to leave out the gnome apps from the KDE menu
[12:06] <jussi01> effie_jayx: right click on the panel -> configure panel -> menus
[12:07] <ubunturos> I downloaded rfc's from repos. It does not appear in the help menu. where did it go?
[12:08] <jussi01> ubunturos: what is rfc?
[12:08] <ubunturos> jussi01: Request For Comments - a standard doc that specifies rules / notes
[12:09] <florent> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49473/
[12:09] <florent> How install my gaphic card ?
[12:10] <jussi01> florent: kmenu -> system settings -> advanced -> restricted drivers
[12:11] <_cj> why does the man page formatting in kubuntu suck so bad?  i get lots of strange charactors
[12:11] <_cj> like a with an accent in perldoc LWP
[12:18] <wubuntu> ok, next problem::P /var/cache/apt/archives/kde4base-data_3.94.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[12:18] <wubuntu>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kde4base_3.94.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[12:18] <wubuntu>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdeartwork-misc-kde4_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb
[12:18] <wubuntu>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdeartwork-emoticons-kde4_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb
[12:18] <wubuntu>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdeartwork-style-kde4_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb
[12:18] <wubuntu>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdeartwork-theme-icon-kde4_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb
[12:18] <wubuntu>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdewallpapers-kde4_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb
[12:18] <wubuntu>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kscreensaver-kde4_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb
[12:18] <wubuntu> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:19] <SSJ_GZ> wubuntu: Use pastebin in future, please.
[12:19] <wubuntu> sorry
[12:19] <jpatrick> !paste > wubuntu
[12:20] <wubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49475/
[12:20] <wubuntu> better? :-D
[12:21] <jussi01> wubuntu: much :)
[12:21] <wubuntu> allright. any solutions?
[12:23] <ardchoille> wubuntu: Is that German? It's a beautiful language but many here don't speak it. Can you translate some of that?
[12:24] <wubuntu> ok, which words should I translate?
[12:24] <ardchoille> wubuntu: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ? That might help.
[12:25] <wubuntu> sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49476/
[12:27] <ardchoille> wubuntu: Ok, looks like you're having trouble with the kde4 stuff
[12:27] <wubuntu> hmm
[12:27] <ardchoille> !kde4
[12:27] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[12:28] <ardchoille> That's not it
[12:28] <ardchoille> !brokenkde4
[12:28] <ubotu> If you're having trouble installing KDE4, in a !Terminal run: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | grep "4:3.97.0" |awk '{print $2}') » then run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » - After that install KDE4 as normal
[12:28] <ardchoille> There it is
[12:28] <slow-motion> re
[12:28] <effie_jayx> I just installed kubuntu-desktop, I have removed all kde apps from the gnome menu. now is there a list of apps for kde, I need to sort the KDE system entries  and the GNOME ones
[12:29] <ardchoille> effie_jayx: Did you know that kde apps run fine in gnome and vice versa?
[12:29] <wubuntu> yeah, I did that, the installation worked normal - but then I wanted to install kde4artwork and something like this - then I got the same problems
[12:29] <effie_jayx> ardchoille: I don know that
[12:30] <effie_jayx> ardchoille:  but I need to sort out the system apps
[12:30] <wubuntu> but now this command: sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | grep "4:3.97.0" |awk '{print $2}') doesn't work anymore!
[12:30] <effie_jayx> stuff to configure...
[12:30] <ardchoille> effie_jayx: Understood, maybe someone can help with that, I don't use gnome
[12:30] <effie_jayx> I just need to know the kde ones
[12:32] <wubuntu> hmm, seems that it is a bigger prob...
[12:34] <wubuntu> no solutions?
[12:39] <jussi01> wubuntu: have you tried sudo apt-get install -f
[12:40] <fernando_> olaaaa
[12:40] <wubuntu> yep - same errors!
[12:40] <jussi01> wubuntu: no idea then
[12:40] <jussi01> !es | fernando_
[12:40] <fernando_> ay alguien?
[12:40] <ubotu> fernando_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[12:40] <wubuntu> i cant remove the packages
[12:41] <wubuntu> so - cant use the package management any more in a proper way...sh**
[12:41] <jussi01> wubuntu: try: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:41] <wubuntu> did that: same erros
[12:42] <jussi01> wubuntu: bleh... not nice
[12:42] <wubuntu> why I must use a rc2? why i just cannot wait for the final? :-D
[12:43] <jussi01> wubuntu: try sudo dpkg -r kde4base kde4base-data kdeartwork-emoticons-kde4 kdeartwork-misc-kde4 kdeartwork-style-kde4 kdeartwork-theme-icon-kde4 kdewallpapers-kde4 kscreensaver-kde4
[12:44] <wubuntu> hmmm? it says that these packages are not installed???? *confused*
[12:45] <jussi01> wubuntu: huh?
[12:45] <wubuntu> what?
[12:45] <jussi01> wubuntu: ok, I really dont know anymore... go find stdin ... :P
[12:46] <wubuntu> stdin?
[12:46] <wubuntu> I installed these pakcages: kdebase-workspace kdebase-kde4 kdebase-runtime
[12:47] <jussi01> wubuntu: stdin did the packages up...
[12:47] <wubuntu> where can i find?
[12:48] <jussi01> wubuntu: he is in here if he is online... so you will have to wait...
[12:48] <wubuntu> allright - thanx for your help
[12:49] <anakin_> can someone please help me with this problem? ever since I've upgraded to gutsy, i am unable to browse the shares on my xp box.
[12:49] <anakin_> it gives me "session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_TYPE_NOT_GRANTED" error no matter what I do.
[12:50] <anakin_> here's the smb.conf in case you want to check it out-->> http://rafb.net/p/OXzWho25.html
[12:51] <jussi01> anakin_: its quite dead atm, so support may be slow in coming.
[12:51] <jussi01> however, have you googled the error?
[12:52] <anakin_> yeah, there seems to be a lot of cases. I've tried some of the suggestions i've found on the forums.
[12:52] <anakin_> the last one i tried included installing printers for unix on my xp box- didnt work that.
[12:54] <hungrymouse> i just got a load of really odd error messages being thrown from basically all my running applications when i logged on to my comp... something about being unable to find mime-types, and a lot of mention of octet streams. what on earth is it going on about?
[12:55] <jussi01> hungrymouse: its a present :P
[12:55] <DreadKnight> xD
[12:55] <hungrymouse> jussi01, really helpful ><
[12:55] <jussi01> hungrymouse: you need to be more specific, I was replying "in kind"
[12:56] <hungrymouse> also its not doing the little preview thing on the icons on the desktop, and when i mouseover a shell script file i got there, it gives me an error message insted of the info box thing.
[12:56] <schiste> hey. A weird thing happenned to me. When I use alt-tab to switch to another window nothing shows up and I automatically go to the next. Pretty annoying as I can't choose the window I want. Would anyone have an idea why is this happenning? I'm on gutsy without compi or anything alike.
[12:57] <anakin_> gah! why did i ever upgrade
[12:57] <marioXXX> hi
[12:57] <marioXXX> any chance to get flash up and running in Konq on amd64?
[12:57] <jussi01> !hi | marioXXX
[12:57] <ubotu> marioXXX: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:57] <jussi01> !flashissues
[12:57] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[12:58] <hungrymouse> jussi01, im being as specific as i can. the full text of the mouseover error thing is: could not find mime type [newline] application/octet-stream
[12:58] <hungrymouse> i have no idea what a mime type is.
[12:58] <tekteen> marioXXX: yes
[12:58] <jussi01> hungrymouse: screenshot ->  imagebin.ca
[12:58] <tekteen> marioXXX: u can download the tarball and install it
[12:58] <tekteen> !flash64
[12:58] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[12:59] <schiste> ok solved
[12:59]  * schiste sighs so stupid
[12:59] <jussi01> schiste: ??
[13:00] <hungrymouse> what the... i saved the image and then all the previews came back.... odd.
[13:00] <marioXXX> tekteen: hmm,  The new version of Flash is incompatible with Konqueror because it requires XEmbed (Launchpad Bug# 174343). <IP_ADDRESS> is the last version of flash to support Konqueror in its current state.
[13:00] <hungrymouse> i'll see if it happens again on reboot
[13:00] <jussi01> hungrymouse: ehhehehehehe
[13:00] <hungrymouse> jussi01: what you think the problem was?
[13:00] <tekteen> marioXXX: did not know that
[13:00] <schiste> jussi01 I solved my own problem and it was just a default parameter not activated
[13:00] <marioXXX> tekteen: oki
[13:00] <jussi01> hungrymouse: no idea, its just funny
[13:00] <drarem> wow, I'm banned from ubuntu
[13:00] <schiste> I just though about it 1 minute ago :::)
[13:01] <drarem> don't know what I did besides asking questions all the time
[13:01] <jussi01> drarem: have you been to #ubuntu-ops to discuss it?
[13:01] <drarem> no,  ty
[13:03] <hungrymouse> jussi01: it happened again :(
[13:03] <wubuntu> could older versions of e.g. amarok, dolphin etc. causes that problems? normally i'm using gnome
[13:03] <wubuntu> just added some qt-apps
[13:04] <hungrymouse> jussi01: i screenshotted the first round of errors, when i logged in. what's the url i should upload to?
[13:04] <jussi01> hungrymouse: imagebin.ca
[13:05] <hungrymouse> can linux get virusses?
[13:05] <jussi01> !virus | hungrymouse
[13:05] <ubotu> hungrymouse: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[13:07] <tekteen> hungrymouse: if u want a virus checker (to check windows in a dual boot) I suggest klamav
[13:07] <hungrymouse> jussi01: it seems to like stacking the error messages, but here's 2 of them. http://imagebin.ca/view/3Obtfi.html
[13:07] <hungrymouse> tekteen: my windows partition is clean, and i have mcafee running fine on that when i use it.
[13:08] <tekteen> hungrymouse: linux will find stuff windows cant
[13:08] <hungrymouse> tekteen: rly? i'll give that a try when i sort this then. but this isnt a windows virus problem for sure.
[13:09] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[13:09] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[13:09] <tekteen> hungrymouse: it has to do with the virus activly defending its self
[13:09] <jussi01> hungrymouse: have you googled the error? there are about<PHONE_NUMBER>00 entries for it... seems its a very common problem..
[13:09] <eagles0513875> someone on linux have a virus
[13:09] <tekteen> eagles0513875: no
[13:09] <hungrymouse> tekteen: whenever i've had a virus on windows i pulverise its registry stuff first and ask questions later.
[13:09] <tekteen> nice :-D
[13:10] <eagles0513875> i have had issues messing with registry
[13:10] <eagles0513875> reminds me of something i did back on win 98 lol
[13:10] <hungrymouse> registry hax is fun.
[13:10] <tekteen> I pulverize windows then ask lator
[13:10] <eagles0513875> lol
[13:10] <jussi01> !ot
[13:10] <eagles0513875> what kinda haxs u do hungry
[13:10] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[13:10] <tekteen> later *
[13:10] <eagles0513875> can someone tell me if the netbeanse ide is in the gutsy repo
[13:11] <jussi01> !info netbeans
[13:11] <ubotu> Package netbeans does not exist in gutsy
[13:11] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: apt-cache search netbeans
[13:11] <hungrymouse> incidentally, jussi01, i've found that if i rename a file, it will sort the error till next restart.
[13:11] <jussi01> !find netbeans
[13:11] <ubotu> Found: netbeans5.5, netbeans5.5-doc, netbeans5.5-ja, netbeans5.5-platform, netbeans5.5-platform-ja (and 4 others)
[13:11] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: i did that but im running feisty atm and its repos have 5.5
[13:11] <jussi01> eagles0513875: yes it is
[13:11] <eagles0513875> im slowly working to do a complete dist upgrade
[13:11] <eagles0513875> jussi01: ty
[13:11] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: Ah, ok
[13:11] <jussi01> !info netbeabs5.5
[13:11] <ubotu> Package netbeabs5.5 does not exist in gutsy
[13:12] <jussi01> !info netbeans5.5
[13:12] <ubotu> netbeans5.5: NetBeans IDE for development of applications in Java. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 5.5.1-2 (gutsy), package size 67449 kB, installed size 143624 kB
[13:12] <hungrymouse> ah, i think i know what might have caused the error. i added a file association to link JNLP files to java web start, and that might have upset things./
[13:12] <jussi01> hungrymouse: thatll do it
[13:12] <eagles0513875> O_o does that mean they have 5.5 and not 6.0
[13:13] <jussi01> eagles0513875: correcy
[13:13] <jussi01> eagles0513875: correct
[13:13] <eagles0513875> doh
[13:13] <eagles0513875> how do i go about getting it added to repo
[13:13] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: /join #ubuntu-motu
[13:14] <eagles0513875> j/w how does 1 go about creating their own repo
[13:14] <hungrymouse> jussi01: i've tried the first fix i found. restarting.
[13:15] <ardchoille> !aptrepo
[13:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aptrepo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:15] <eagles0513875> !apt repo
[13:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt repo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:15] <tekteen> !repo
[13:15] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[13:15] <jussi01> !ppa | eagles0513875
[13:15] <ubotu> eagles0513875: With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart.
[13:15] <sigra_> Need help anyone.  I cannot get xine to install on kde using package manager.  it shows xine.  but its GREYED out so i cannot check it to install
[13:16] <ardchoille> sigra_: xine-ui
[13:16] <sigra_> apt-get install xine-ui?
[13:16] <ardchoille> sudo, yes
[13:16] <sigra_> k trying that..thank you
[13:16] <ardchoille> yw
[13:17] <hungrymouse> jussi01: that fix worked. i should have searched to start with, i know, but im not used to finding coherent answers online. i've been using windows till about a week ago.
[13:17] <jussi01> hungrymouse: google is one of your best friends ;)
[13:18] <eagles0513875> compared to an ati radeon xpress 200m how much better is an nvidia 6600gt on an nforce4 motherboard would WoW work on it
[13:19] <sigra_> ardchollie awesome thanks..worked like a charm!
[13:19] <awen_> sigra_: else i can recommend kmplayer, and it runs with xine as a backend
[13:20] <sigra_> working now...advice Ardchollie gave me fix my problem..but thank you awen
[13:20] <effie_jayx> what window decorator does kubuntu use
[13:20]  * effie_jayx is downloading themes...
[13:21] <ardchoille> sigra_: :)
[13:21] <sigra_> have good one guys.  going watch movies now heh
[13:21] <ardchoille> effie_jayx: If you mean window manager, kde uses kwin
[13:21] <ardchoille> I have a feeling he'll be back asking about dvdcss2
[13:22] <eagles0513875> lol
[13:22] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: what command do i need to run a .sh file
[13:23] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: sh file.sh
[13:23] <eagles0513875> do i just go to the cli and go to the place where its saved and type the name of it
[13:23] <eagles0513875> im downloading netbeans 6.0 and its got a .sh extension
[13:23] <effie_jayx> ardchoille:  so can I search for themes for kwin?
[13:23] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: or you can just open a terminal and so: sh /path/file.sh
[13:24] <eagles0513875> ok
[13:24] <ardchoille> effie_jayx: Lots of themes here: http://www.kde-look.org/
[13:24] <eagles0513875> comcast rocks. internet where i am t school in europe stinks
[13:24] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: If that netbeans .sh file is an installer, you may need to use sudo
[13:24] <eagles0513875> ok
[13:24] <effie_jayx> ardchoille:  that's where I'm at...
[13:24] <eagles0513875> im guessing it is
[13:24] <eagles0513875> ive never installed netbeans from a download before
[13:25] <effie_jayx> it reads ... native KDE 3.x... I guess :D
[13:25] <effie_jayx> guys... 45 minutes into Kubuntu... and loving it...
[13:25] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: its saying command not found
[13:26] <eagles0513875> glad to see a new convert
[13:26] <tekteen> eagles0513875: try bash instead of sh
[13:26] <Brick> first 45 minutes r easy
[13:26] <Brick> :-)
[13:26] <Nakkel> How do I enable propietary Flash on a fresh Gutsy install? The package flashplugin-nonfree doesnt seemt to install any .so files anywhere?
[13:26] <eagles0513875> welcome to the world of kubuntu and linux effie_jayx
[13:26] <DreadKnight> effie_jayx: i was annoyed by kde, loved gnome, but my hdd got broken one day.. and was running ubuntu from live cd... one day i scrathed the cd by accident.. was my last one... and i only had old version of kubuntu ... i started loving it xD
[13:27] <tekteen> !flashissue | Nakkel
[13:27] <ubotu> Nakkel: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[13:27] <eagles0513875> i love the 64bit version i cant go back to 32 bit after going 64
[13:27] <effie_jayx> eagles0513875: I have used ubuntu for quite a while. and I decided to give kubuntu a whack... and it is kicking ass...
[13:27] <DreadKnight> Nakkel: it's broken . i heard it got fixed in alpha 2 (hardy), but it should work with swiftfox or firefox
[13:28] <eagles0513875> effie_jayx: i hate to say it but kde is much better then gnome im sry to say
[13:29] <eagles0513875> i love how lil ram kubuntu uses and how fast the 64bit data throughouhput is
[13:29] <Nakkel> tekteen, DreadKnight: Ok thanks, will check those out.
[13:30] <eagles0513875> j/w anyone play WoW on here
[13:31] <eagles0513875> i need to start getting on the debugging band wagon lol
[13:31] <eagles0513875> only problem is i only know java lol
[13:31] <eagles0513875> im currently learning it
[13:32] <eagles0513875> has anyone tried kubuntu on a solid state drive
[13:32] <tekteen> eagles0513875: only on a flashdrive
[13:33] <zorglu_> q. im about to buy a computer and would like to check the compatibility of the graphic card driver, where should i look ?
[13:33] <ardchoille> zorglu_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[13:33] <eagles0513875> tekteen: how does that work
[13:33] <zorglu_> ardchoille: ok looking
[13:33] <tekteen> eagles0513875: what do u mean?
[13:33] <ardchoille> zorglu_: Which card is it?
[13:34] <eagles0513875> tekteen: how did u manage to install it on there
[13:34] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[13:34] <tekteen> I followed a guide. forgot which one
[13:34] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[13:34] <eagles0513875> lol
[13:35] <zorglu_> ardchoille: various alternative are possible. may be 'nvideo8600gt' or 'nvideo8600gs' or 'ati hd2400pro' or 'ati x1250'
[13:35] <awen_> zorglu_: what gfx card?
[13:35] <effie_jayx> eagles0513875:  what's the minimum ram aceptable for kubuntu?
[13:35] <eagles0513875> 320mb if u want a decent working desktop
[13:35] <eagles0513875> if not i think 64mb i could be wrong let me double check
[13:35] <_cj> where do core files go on ubuntu?
[13:36] <zorglu_> awen_: ardchoille: none of which is in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[13:36] <tekteen> _cj:which core files?
[13:36] <ardchoille> zorglu_: Have a look here for vid card driver how to's https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[13:36] <zorglu_> ardchoille: ok looking
[13:36] <eagles0513875> effie_jayx: http://bw.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/gutsy/
[13:36] <eagles0513875> take a look at that
[13:36] <_cj> tekteen: a program i'm writing just cored but theres no core file in pwd
[13:37] <eagles0513875> effie_jayx: u need a min of 320mb for a fully functional desktop
[13:37] <eagles0513875> more never hurts in all honesty the more u have the better the performance
[13:37]  * tekteen does not understand _cj
[13:38] <_cj> tekteen: which part isn't clear?
[13:38] <effie_jayx> eagles0513875: ahhh cool
[13:38]  * awen_ remember running kubuntu feisty on his old laptop with 192 mb ram
[13:38] <eagles0513875> effie_jayx: y u ask u got an older system u wanna put it on
[13:38]  * tekteen thinks this is beyond him
[13:38] <_cj> tekteen: on most operating systems when a program cores it leaves a core dump in the current working directory
[13:38] <_cj> tekteen: on ubuntu it doesn't
[13:38] <eagles0513875> and urs didnt cj
[13:38] <zorglu_> ardchoille: do you haveanother link where i could know which card is supported. in ati and/or nvidia.
[13:39] <tekteen> _cj: it leaves it somewhere
[13:39] <eagles0513875> zorglu_: avoid ati
[13:39] <_cj> tekteen: so i gathered. the question is where?
[13:39] <tekteen> _cj: maybe in a sub dir of /var
[13:39] <zorglu_> eagles0513875: yep i heard this one before. i will :)
[13:39] <eagles0513875> zorglu_: i have to say though in gutsy its improved
[13:39] <tekteen> I will look
[13:39] <awen_> zorglu_ and eagles0513875, at least until we get a decent open source driver
[13:40] <eagles0513875> zorglu_: all i had to do when i first logged in check the drivers i want installed my video card and broadcom wifi card worked out of th ebox after restart
[13:40] <ardchoille> zorglu_: For nvidia: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[13:40] <tekteen> _cj: maybe /var/crash
[13:40] <eagles0513875> awen_: lol true i have to say for me gutsy has been a blessing
[13:40] <zorglu_> eagles0513875: what is the model of your graphic card ?
[13:40]  * tekteen does not program much
[13:40] <zorglu_> ardchoille: thanks looking
[13:41] <eagles0513875> zorglu_: in my laptop ati radeon xpress 200m integrated. in the desktop im on its a pci-e 6600gt
[13:41] <zorglu_> eagles0513875: ok
[13:41] <awen_> eagles0513875: i actually wish me back to my old laptop with an ati radeon 9600... they worked well with the open source driver
[13:41] <eagles0513875> im working on upgradeing myself from feisty to gutsy to see if it works that way for me
[13:41] <ardchoille> zorglu_: Don't use ati, I've always had better luck with nvidia cards
[13:41] <eagles0513875> awen_: what open source driver
[13:41] <ardchoille> s/Don't/I don't/
[13:41] <eagles0513875> zorglu_: i agree with ard on that
[13:41] <awen_> eagles0513875: just the ati/radeon driver
[13:42] <eagles0513875> prior to gutsy it got really messy for me black listing this moding the xorg.conf file
[13:42] <eagles0513875> prior to gutsy it got really messy for me black listing this moding the xorg.conf file
[13:42] <tekteen> ardchoille: I have been fine with ati cards
[13:42] <awen_> right now i have an x300 still using the ati/radeon driver... but performance is just poor
[13:42] <eagles0513875> tekteen: lol ur probably one in a million
[13:42] <eagles0513875> awen_: i have noticed that once i patch world of warcraft
[13:42] <zorglu_> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.03.html <- ok nvideo 8600gt is supported
[13:43] <eagles0513875> prior to patching it works fine then after fps really drops
[13:43] <eagles0513875> its kinda funny though in the past ive noticed that card maxed out at 30fps in WoW
[13:43] <eagles0513875> no i get sometimes with the latest ati drive bout 50fps
[13:43] <tekteen> eagles0513875: I was fine with ati cards before the restrict. driver manager
[13:43]  * awen_ agrees with tekteen... been using kubuntu it with 4 different ati cards now, without any large problems
[13:44] <hungrymouse> a friend of mine uses ati with (as far as i know) no problems.
[13:44] <hungrymouse> (on kubuntu)
[13:44] <tekteen> eagles0513875: I got a new card before the manager came out
[13:44] <eagles0513875> lucky my laptop i have had huge problems
[13:44] <awen_> but avoid fglrx if you can :)
[13:44] <tekteen> eagles0513875: now I have gotten lazy :-D
[13:44] <eagles0513875> ya had to use this wiki mod the xorg.conf black list fglrx and only god knows what else i had to do to enable direct rendering
[13:44] <eagles0513875> tekteen: we all have
[13:45] <eagles0513875> tekteen: im hoping to get better performance out of my 6600gt
[13:45] <eagles0513875> brb guys going to restart after updating my machine
[13:45] <tekteen> eagles0513875: I am thinking of becoming a traitor and try gentoo.
[13:45] <tekteen> trying*
[13:46] <eagles0513875> tekteen: lol dont make me hunt u down lol
[13:46] <DreadKnight> eagles0513875: i once tried fedora (werewolf) and got dissapointed
[13:47] <eagles0513875> DreadKnight: ive tried so many form suse 9 and 10 10 the 64 bit they r just resource  hogs
[13:47] <tekteen> DreadKnight: i used fedora before ubuntu
[13:47] <eagles0513875> ive even tried fedora and solaris
[13:47] <eagles0513875> !xid
[13:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:48] <eagles0513875> brb guys
[13:48] <DreadKnight> xD
[13:48] <tekteen> eagles0513875: I have tried all distros known to the world :-)
[13:48] <eagles0513875> lol
[13:48] <eagles0513875> i cant use anythign else
[13:48] <DreadKnight> tekteen: kubuntu ownz ye all!
[13:48] <tekteen> eagles0513875: I once tried gentoo
[13:48] <eagles0513875> kool
[13:48] <tekteen> eagles0513875: could not get it installed :-D
[13:48] <DreadKnight> kool xD
[13:48] <eagles0513875> hahaha
[13:49] <eagles0513875> i need to start working on developing a spin off clustering system based on kubuntu
[13:49] <tekteen> eagles0513875: I think I am smarter know
[13:49] <tekteen> now*
[13:49] <eagles0513875> lol ya not vry many good clustering distros out ther e
[13:49] <eagles0513875> i have tried so many different ones
[13:49] <eagles0513875> they all sux
[13:49] <eagles0513875> brb
[13:50] <tekteen> by guys
[13:50] <tekteen> bye*
[13:50] <DreadKnight> bye :)
[13:51] <kadargo> hy kubuntus.... i got the known issue with updating libqt3-mt in gusty..... anybody knows a solution ?
[13:51] <hrbsky> ??????
[13:51] <kadargo> are the ???s for me ?
[13:51] <kadargo> ;)
[13:52] <fudus> is there a way of changing the mouse wheel setting to "whole pagE" like windows?
[13:52] <eagles0513875> im back
[13:53] <awen_> fudus: you can change the number of lines in the system settings
[13:53] <eagles0513875> damn java based ide's
[13:53] <kadargo> okkk....... it seems that nobody cares...
[13:53] <DreadKnight> kadargo: give more details
[13:53] <eagles0513875> what i miss
[13:54] <ardchoille> kadargo: Or maybe the folks who are looking at their screen right now don't have a solution
[13:54] <awen_> eagles0513875: no, you miss a lot of ram if you have them :)
[13:54] <fudus> awen_: I can only set it to 12
[13:54] <eagles0513875> awen_: i know lol. i have no choice i have to do this java course as part of my degree
[13:54] <fudus> How can I set it huigher?
[13:55] <awen_> eagles0513875: but have you tried installing the netbeans 6 tarball manually in your home directory?
[13:55] <dondon10101984> its a known prob.... its also in the kubuntu.com forum
[13:55] <dondon10101984> but nobody seems to care about
[13:56] <eagles0513875> awen_: lol ya i have it installed but it would be nice to have in repos as well
[13:56] <_cj> eagles0513875: why do you need an IDE?
[13:56] <jtt> any ideas why the speaker has disappeared from the tray?
[13:56] <awen_> eagles0513875: i did that with netbeans 5.5 when it wasn't in the archives
[13:56] <eagles0513875> _cj: i use it for java and which is part of the degree im studing for
[13:56] <eagles0513875> awen_: i have it installed lol
[13:56] <nosrednaekim> jtt: run "kmix"
[13:56] <DreadKnight> jtt: alt + space and type kmix
[13:57] <_cj> eagles0513875: i did all the c and java on my degree just in vim
[13:57] <jtt> thanks guys will try it
[13:57] <eagles0513875> i like net beans
[13:57] <_cj> eagles0513875: bloat
[13:58] <awen_> time to wrap up some gifts
[13:58] <fudus> now way of setting it higher than 12? :/
[13:58]  * awen_ wishes everyone a merry christmas
[13:58] <eagles0513875> i have to say having it on a 64bit os and with plenty of ram
[13:59] <eagles0513875> merry xmas guys
[13:59] <awen_> fudus: i don't think so... if you are lucky there is a xorg.conf setting for it
[13:59] <eagles0513875> _cj: on windows maybe on a 64bit os not really
[13:59] <effie_jayx> I just tried installing kubuntu and I get this error ata1.00: execption Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
[13:59] <dondon10101984> ok.... see ya later folks thanks for the help... merry X-mas
[13:59] <nosrednaekim> effie_jayx: ouch, this is on boot?
[13:59] <effie_jayx> nosrednaekim:  yep
[13:59] <jtt> thanks speaker back in tray, now how do i test the mic input
[14:00] <etfb> effie_jayx: Disk problem, perhaps?  Are you sure your hard disk is stable and bug-free?
[14:00] <_cj> eagles0513875: bloat is bloat no matter what arch you run it on
[14:00] <nosrednaekim> effie_jayx: try booting with the "ide=nodma" option
[14:00] <eagles0513875> effie_jayx: i was getting those too on an older machine which i wanna put kubuntu on
[14:00] <effie_jayx> nosrednaekim:  I install ... but doesn't boot
[14:01] <effie_jayx> eagles0513875:  how dod you go about it
[14:01] <nosrednaekim> effie_jayx: oh... you mean its alreaDY INSTALLED?
[14:01] <effie_jayx> nosrednaekim: yes
[14:01] <nosrednaekim> sorry, caps lock
[14:01] <eagles0513875> effie_jayx: lol i got my newer machine instead nosrednaekimhad a good idea bout no dma ill have to try it
[14:02] <nosrednaekim> effie_jayx: well, you can still add that boot option
[14:02] <effie_jayx> nosrednaekim:  where ... grub?
[14:02] <master_> kubuntu is the best OS
[14:02] <nosrednaekim> effie_jayx: yes, press "e" to edit the boot entry...
[14:02] <nosrednaekim> then "b" toboot it
[14:03] <etfb> join #ada
[14:03] <etfb> (Oops, sorry.  Wanted to go see a channel I was told was REALLY nasty...)
[14:04] <eagles0513875> in order to be an motu what programming languages should one know
[14:04] <eagles0513875> etfb: TMI
[14:04] <effie_jayx> nosrednaekim:  which do I edit
[14:04] <effie_jayx> kernel ... initrd ... quiet?
[14:04] <nosrednaekim> effie_jayx: kernel
[14:04] <nosrednaekim> effie_jayx: well, really, you just add that to the end.
[14:05] <effie_jayx> ok
[14:05] <etfb> eagles0513875: Not THAT kind of nasty!  Ada is a programming language.  Someone mentioned on a blog that it was rather unpleasant to newbies, and I thought (since it's quiet here) I'd see if they were right.  But I digress.
[14:05] <eagles0513875> etfb: sry dude i didnt know it was a programming language
[14:06] <etfb> eagles0513875: Nobody does any more.  Be grateful you never tried it.  It makes Java look brief.
[14:07] <eagles0513875> etfb: lol speaking of java im learning it as part of my degree
[14:07] <effie_jayx> eagles0513875:  same problem
[14:07] <eagles0513875> effie_jayx: do u have a floppy drive hooked up or not
[14:08] <eagles0513875> effie_jayx: an internal one
[14:08] <effie_jayx> eagles0513875:  I do have a floppy drive
[14:08] <etfb> eagles0513875: Good luck.  I recommend learning Python at the same time as an antidote.  Any time you find yourself writing a forty-seven page function just to scratch yourself, you can implement it in Python in three lines to remind yourself that you're still a Real Programmer.
[14:08] <eagles0513875> effie_jayx: do u use it
[14:08] <eagles0513875> etfb: lol next on my list to learn is c++
[14:09] <eagles0513875> or python not sure which. found a free online book which ill probably start going through ovr the summer
[14:09] <eagles0513875> the upgrading to gutsy x64 begins as we speak3
[14:10] <eagles0513875> shouldnt take me that long to download ovr 800 pkgs lol
[14:11] <etfb> eagles0513875: It's a good idea to branch out. C++ and Java are pretty much the same language, with superficial differences.    (Alternatively, if you hate your brain and want it to suffer, learn COBOL.)
[14:11] <eagles0513875> lol
[14:11] <eagles0513875> i think ill stretch my brain out wiht developing a java based os which already exists but im curious to try it
[14:11] <eagles0513875> its jnode.org is the site if anyone is interested
[14:16] <eagles0513875> i love how i can multitask on a 64bit os
[14:16] <nosrednaekim> 64 bit or 32 shouldn't make a difference for that.
[14:16] <intelikey> how does the os alter your ability to multi-task ?
[14:17] <nosrednaekim> well, windows certainly isn't good for multitasking.
[14:17] <nosrednaekim> but the architecture certainly shouldn't
[14:18] <intelikey> are you saying that windows requires too much attention ?
[14:18] <intelikey> multi-task = walk and chew gum at the same time.
[14:18] <nosrednaekim> i'm saying that it doesn't have multiple desktops... and other such productivity features.
[14:18] <nosrednaekim> like cubes ;) ...... just kidding..
[14:18] <eagles0513875> no
[14:19] <eagles0513875> 32 bit is ok 64bit suxs balls and the only 64bit version that kicks hiney is kubuntu which im running atm
[14:19] <_cj> eagles0513875: do you mean multithread?
[14:19] <eagles0513875> no not multithread
[14:19] <eagles0513875> this is a single core machine an athlon 64 3200+ 2ghz machine with 1gb ram and 160gb sata drive and a killer asus a8nsli premium motherboard
[14:20] <sivaji> knetwork manager is not working, my syslog file is here http://pastebin.com/f707fdd1 please  help me
[14:21] <eagles0513875> what would be nice right about now in this machine would be 8gb of pc3200 lol
[14:21] <eagles0513875> max out the amount of ram my motherboard can handle
[14:21] <eagles0513875> does anyone have a mac book or book pro
[14:21] <nosrednaekim> sivaji: no network...
[14:21] <sivaji> nosrednaekim what
[14:22] <_cj> i have 16G and 4 x Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) :o
[14:22] <nosrednaekim> sivaji: its not seeing any networks.
[14:22]  * nosrednaekim is half-way between with a Turion X2
[14:22] <sivaji> nosrednaekim i am connected to Airtel ISP network
[14:23] <nosrednaekim> sivaji: so you are connected but knetwork manager isn't seeing it?
[14:23] <sivaji> nosrednaekim why
[14:24] <nosrednaekim> sivaji: why what?
[14:24] <sivaji> actually it was working fine a few month back ,why its not working now
[14:25] <sivaji> why its not seeing my network
[14:25] <sivaji> how to make it to detect my network...
[14:25] <sivaji> nosrednaekim
[14:26] <nosrednaekim> sivaji: this is wireless right?
[14:26] <sivaji> nosrednaekim no i am using wired network
[14:27] <nosrednaekim> sivaji: and you cannot connect? are you on this computer right now?
[14:28] <sivaji> are that syslog is belong to computer which i am using now
[14:28] <sivaji> no are*
[14:28] <sivaji> that syslog is belong to computer which i am using now
[14:29] <nosrednaekim> sivaji: i'm confused.... can you get on the internet right now  on this computer that you are complaining about?
[14:29] <sivaji> yes
[14:30] <sivaji> otherwise i would not be here
[14:31] <nosrednaekim> sivaji: then what exactly is the problem?
[14:31] <sivaji> nosrednaekim knetwork manager is not working
[14:31] <sivaji> it says no active device found
[14:31] <nosrednaekim> sivaji: as long as your internet is working, why does it matter?
[14:32] <sivaji> nosrednaekim i want to know much data has been transfers because my download is limited
[14:33] <nosrednaekim> sivaji: check that with "ifconfig"
[14:34] <nosrednaekim> or ksysgaurd can even do it I think.
[14:35] <florent> My resolution is wrong and I can't change it. Xorg.conf looks like ok. Driver too.
[14:35] <eagles0513875> _cj: u know much bout the linux version of net beans
[14:35] <tekteen> !fixresolution
[14:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixresolution - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:36] <nosrednaekim> !resolution
[14:36] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[14:36] <tekteen> !resolution
[14:36] <sivaji> nosrednaekim thanks for your suggestion
[14:36] <nosrednaekim> beatcha tekteen ;)
[14:36] <tekteen> nosrednaekim: no I beat u
[14:36] <nosrednaekim> but you had the wrong tip ;)
[14:37] <nosrednaekim> or maybe i'm just laggy XD
[14:37] <tekteen> nosrednaekim: my client says I beat u
[14:37] <eagles0513875> i didnt know net beans did uml as well as c++ and all that jazz
[14:37] <tekteen> lag
[14:38] <florent> ...
[14:39] <intelikey> tekteen it must be your lag.   i show nosrednaekim listed first  ;/
[14:39] <eagles0513875> !offtopic |tekteen nosrednaekim
[14:39] <ubotu> tekteen nosrednaekim: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[14:39] <eagles0513875> same with me
[14:39] <keith> does anybody know of a way to boot an iso (or an extracted ISO) with grub?
[14:40] <nosrednaekim> florent: sorry, does that help you or do you need something mroe?
[14:40] <intelikey> keith probably could with lilo
[14:40] <eagles0513875> keith: that would be interesting to see if it could be done
[14:40]  * tekteen is leaving to go skiing (really)
[14:40] <florent> something more =p
[14:40] <eagles0513875> tekteen: lucky u ur enjoying a white xmas lol
[14:40] <nosrednaekim> keith: its possible... I think.
[14:40] <nosrednaekim> florent: what video card do you have?was the resolution ever working correctly?
[14:41] <intelikey> nosrednaekim bios would have to be able to "boot it/read it"
[14:41] <florent> Always wrong
[14:41] <chemicalvamp> nosrednaekim turns out the command was right.. but the live cd i was running was corrupted
[14:41] <florent> nosrednaekim: It's a Nvidia
[14:41] <nosrednaekim> chemicalvamp: lol, I get so many people coming through here that I don't remeber what you problem was..
[14:41] <nosrednaekim> florent: did you install the nvidia drivers?
[14:42] <florent> yes
[14:42] <monkee> need help i have a fujitsu tablet stylistic lt c-500  tryng to get touchscreen to work, xorg.cfg wacom stuff turned on, not sure serial port is read as is active... running kubunto 7.10
[14:42] <chemicalvamp> nosrednaekim hehe grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hda1/boot /dev/hda1 ring any bells?
[14:42] <nosrednaekim> chemicalvamp: oh... you :D lol good job
[14:43] <chemicalvamp> yeah i have it the way i want it.. now to fix my old laptop without a cdrom drive.
[14:43] <nosrednaekim> florent: did you go into systemsettings->screens and graphics and try to increase your resolution? (if possible)
[14:43] <chemicalvamp> or even usb boot option
[14:43] <monkee> need help i have a fujitsu tablet stylistic lt c-500  tryng to get touchscreen to work, xorg.conf wacom stuff turned on, not sure serial port is read as is active... running kubunto 7.10
[14:43] <nosrednaekim> chemicalvamp: netboot?
[14:44] <nosrednaekim> !wacom
[14:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:44] <chemicalvamp> i have no idea how to do that
[14:44] <nosrednaekim> !touchscreen
[14:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touchscreen - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:44] <tekteen> florent: u may need to edit xorg.conf
[14:44] <monkee> try working on a tablet with no interfaces and changing up hard drive with laptop and tablet to do anything
[14:44] <nosrednaekim> chemicalvamp: well, see as how its a laptop(and old), it probably can't netboot.
[14:45] <sigra> Anyone know how to install flash 9 for firefox and kubuntu 7.10 64 bit.  I downloaded the flash but when trying install it says not a 64bit app
[14:45] <chemicalvamp> it can.. its a p3 i mean not old old.. it has the option i just dont know how that will install linux.. or w/e
[14:45] <intelikey> floppy drive nosrednaekim ?
[14:45] <eagles0513875> sigra: look in repos
[14:45] <sigra> what do I look for in reps?
[14:45] <nosrednaekim> intelikey if it has one..
[14:45] <eagles0513875> sigra: apt-cache search flash in command line
[14:45] <chemicalvamp> nope
[14:45] <eagles0513875> sigra: type flash
[14:45] <effie_jayx> I am trying out kubuntu feisty
[14:45] <chemicalvamp> only cdrom.. but it took a shit
[14:45] <nosrednaekim> flash plugin installation is broken...
[14:46] <nosrednaekim> chemicalvamp: you could swap out the HD into another laptop.
[14:46] <chemicalvamp> yeah i have this hard drive like this 100mb boot,50gb /,2gb swap, 4.7gb (open for recovery partition
[14:47] <sigra> eagles that apt-cache sarch flash gave me a list of alot things
[14:47] <intelikey> nosrednaekim one would need something like blu-flops or basic-linux   that can boot off of floppies and run in ram  to "transfer" an installation to the machine.    well that's what i would be looking at.
[14:48] <nosrednaekim> yeah...
[14:48] <chemicalvamp> intelikey if your talking about mine, the laptop has no way of transfering the files while the harddrive is in it
[14:48] <nosrednaekim> network...
[14:48] <chemicalvamp> have to put the files there with the harddrive on another compputer
[14:48] <intelikey> chemicalvamp no network ?
[14:49] <chemicalvamp> well yeah i have one
[14:50] <sigra> hmm under add/remove programs on kubuntu 7.10 64bit there is no listing for flash
[14:51] <intelikey> chemicalvamp what i'm talking about is booting a ramdisk distro that supports networking and has the tools to partition/format your hdd   then you can simply copy the installation across the network connection.   (clone system)   and install a boot loader when copied.    but if that sounds like doing it the hard way, or out of your league; i'll just disapear back into the "lurking zone"
[14:53] <chemicalvamp> so if i created an iso of a live cd. and extracted that iso to a partition of my harddrive. why is it when i had grub boot that iso like a windows partition it just reloads the grub menu
[14:53] <florent> ok
[14:53] <florent> my resolution is ugly
[14:53] <intelikey> cause the extraction is not "bootable" as a partition.
[14:53] <florent> :' )
[14:54] <chemicalvamp> intelikey should i change the partitions filesystem?
[14:54] <sigra> not finding ndiswrapper either..guess kubuntu 64bit didnt add way to install flash?
[14:55] <intelikey> chemicalvamp you should setup menu.lst to point at the actual kernel and initramfs  rather than at the partition
[14:56] <intelikey> chemicalvamp but be warned.  the initramfs is built to look for it's self on a cd drive.  you may still have trubble.
[14:56] <florent> !fr
[14:56] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:56] <monkee> how can i activate a serial port that normaly isnt detected during boot?
[14:57] <chemicalvamp> intelikey but as for the filesystem.. does it matter? i have it as vfat now
[14:57] <intelikey> chemicalvamp alternatively  you can install a boot loader on that partition and kick to it.
[14:57] <intelikey> chemicalvamp well vfat has no permissions bits
[14:58] <chemicalvamp> whats best
[14:58] <monkee> how can i activate a serial port that normaly isnt detected during boot??
[14:58] <intelikey> if linux is going to live in vfat/ntfs space it needs scba gear.  so i'd sujest a linux native fs   ext2 or ext3
[14:59] <intelikey> monkee change the bios,  alter the address for the port.
[15:00] <monkee> bios loads it, its port 5 kubuntu i think doesnt  see it, that  is why my touchscreen isnt working
[15:01] <monkee> r u saying it will see  the change and reload / detect it?
[15:01] <florent> Nobody can help me for my resolution ? :(
[15:01] <intelikey> monkee   dmesg | grep tty     should show you what the kernel says about it.
[15:02] <intelikey> monkee i'm saying that often bios will allow conflicting address ranges and if you alter the address then linux might see the port.
[15:02] <monkee> k rebooting going to try that
[15:04] <eagles0513875> anyone know much about the latest release of net beans
[15:06] <dsmith_> how stable is 64bit?
[15:06] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: im running as we speak really stable compared to winblowws x64
[15:06] <dsmith_> lol
[15:06] <dsmith_> any troubles at all?
[15:06] <dsmith_> backwards compatible with 32 bit apps?
[15:06] <eagles0513875> nope
[15:06] <eagles0513875> yep
[15:07] <dsmith_> hmmm
[15:07] <eagles0513875> whats on ur mind ds
[15:07] <dsmith_> oh I am looking at some barebones machines
[15:07] <eagles0513875> btw
[15:07] <eagles0513875> avoid ati graphics
[15:07] <virnik> Marrz christmass, everyone!
[15:07] <dsmith_> I know :)
[15:07] <dsmith_> AMD Athlon 64 / Athlon 64 X2 / Sempron NVIDIA GeForce 7025
[15:08] <dsmith_> merry xmas, its morning here in the USA
[15:08] <eagles0513875> my sept right now is an athlon3200 2ghz machine asus a8n sli premium mobo 1g pc3200 160gb sata drive and 6600gt
[15:08] <dsmith_> actually xmas eve
[15:08] <intelikey> shalom aleichem virnik
[15:08] <Dragnslcr> Hehe
[15:08] <virnik> intelikey: <*)))><
[15:08] <dsmith_> eagles0513875: sweet
[15:09] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: socket 939 so if i can get an fx or x2 i can put in there
[15:09] <Dragnslcr> A skeleton fish?
[15:09] <virnik> Dragnslcr: hehe, skeleton fish...it is what's left after christmass dinner
[15:09] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: would love to max out ram at 8gb lol
[15:09] <dsmith_> its froma winblows box
[15:10] <dsmith_> hmm this machines shows a AMD socket AM2
[15:11] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: 939 has been phased out already
[15:11] <intelikey> eagles0513875 would be ince to have 8g of ram and setup a system to boot from a dvd and load all in ram.
[15:11] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: do u do alot of gaming
[15:11] <tehm0nk> !compiz
[15:11] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[15:11] <eagles0513875> intelikey: lol
[15:11] <dsmith_> eagles
[15:12] <schiste> Hi, I tried to change my Desktop directory in the About Me" section. It failed, but worse it also changed my autostart directory to ~/Desktop/autostart and I can't find anymore the ~/.kde/Autostart
[15:12] <dsmith_> eagles0513875: not entirely
[15:12] <virnik> compis is not working right under kubuntu
[15:12] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: then i would go with intel
[15:12] <virnik> kdocker works weird sometime
[15:12] <virnik> and so on
[15:12] <dsmith_> how come?
[15:12] <effie_jayx> juncato's crash course on kde land is cool...
[15:12] <effie_jayx> http://jucato.org/kde/kubuntuthemes.html
[15:12] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: was reading something other night in regards to intel with better benchmarks performanc once
[15:13] <intelikey> eagles0513875 only have one disk drive (the dvd-rom) set it up as a webserver.  nothing crackers could really do but reset the box...   well a hijack maybe. but root kits are precluded.
[15:13] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: amds r nice in desktops but in laptops *thumbs down*
[15:14] <dsmith_> i agree with you on that assessment
[15:14] <dsmith_> we have a amd box here and it does seem laggy sorta
[15:14] <dsmith_> a decent vid card will work that out...
[15:15] <dsmith_> so no issues with 64-bit ubuntu...sweet
[15:15] <schiste> Hi, I tried to change my Desktop directory in the About Me" section. It failed, but worse it also changed my autostart directory to ~/Desktop/autostart and I can't find anymore the ~/.kde/Autostart
[15:15] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: speaking of intel they predicting that by the yr 2012 that they would have phased out transistors all together and replaced them with carbon nano tubes
[15:15] <dsmith_> I am going to try it out when I complete my new build
[15:15] <eagles0513875> kool
[15:15] <dsmith_> serious no way
[15:16] <dsmith_> I did not know they could use carbon nanotubes as a gate
[15:16]  * dsmith_ scratches head
[15:17] <schiste> Hi, I tried to change my Desktop directory in the About Me" section. It failed, but worse it also changed my autostart directory to ~/Desktop/autostart and I can't find anymore the ~/.kde/Autostart could anyone help me please :)
[15:17] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: me neither till i read an article the other night its goign to be quite interesting
[15:17]  * dsmith_ reading now
[15:17] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: ill brb time to boot into gutsy
[15:17] <eagles0513875> for first time
[15:17] <jhutchins> schiste: There's no point in repeating your question while it's still on the screen.
[15:18] <jhutchins> !patience | schiste
[15:18] <ubotu> schiste: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[15:18] <intelikey> schiste  grep -HiRace autostart ~ | grep -v 0
[15:18] <monkee> k back no change... how can i see if the port is active?
[15:19] <intelikey> od /dev/ttyS4   you did say it was com5 ?
[15:19] <monkee> yes 5
[15:19] <intelikey> od /dev/ttyS4 and move around the TS
[15:20] <intelikey> if no output then something is not functioning properly
[15:20] <monkee> input / output error
[15:21] <intelikey> there you go.   the kernel is not seeing the port.    maybe a module needs inserted
[15:21] <slow-motion> re
[15:21] <monkee> module is alwys inserted, hardwired
[15:21] <eagles0513875> i love this gutsy found my video card automatically brb
[15:21] <intelikey> oh you rolled your own kernel monkee ?
[15:22] <schiste> ok solved, thanks anyway guys sorry for spamming, but I'm in a hurry (christmas stuff)
[15:22] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: dude reboot took bout 30 sec
[15:22] <schiste> Merry christmas all of you :)
[15:22] <dsmith_> kinda slow
[15:23] <dsmith_> im reading ppl having issue with 64bit
[15:23] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: actually even less
[15:23] <eagles0513875> im not with kubuntu gutsy
[15:23] <monkee> possble prob, i have to load kubuuntu on laptop, then move drive into tablet.. cant load directly on the tablet
[15:23] <ScottG> I have Kubuntu Gutsy 64 bit..
[15:23] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: brb again
[15:23] <dsmith_> scott
[15:23] <eagles0513875> same here ScottG
[15:24] <dsmith_> ScottG: have nay issues?
[15:24] <dsmith_> *any
[15:24] <intelikey> monkee did you build your own kernel ?
[15:24] <monkee> so it takes some tweeking
[15:24] <ScottG> no.. other than some plugins when I first got started.. installed a 32 bit version of Firefox for Java..
[15:24] <ubunturos> is there a #linux-audio?
[15:25] <ScottG> I'm a browser ho.. I have Firefox32, Firefox64, Firefox3, Switweasel, Iceape, Opera, etc..
[15:26] <dsmith_> heh,
[15:26]  * intelikey is being ignored.    and goes away.   "Physician, heal thyself"
[15:26] <dsmith_> wow there is a 64 bit firefox?
[15:27] <eagles0513875> dsmith_:lol
[15:27] <ScottG> yes.. the standard one to install on the 64 bit OS..
[15:27] <monkee> intell r u getting my pms?
[15:27] <eagles0513875> can someone tell me which nvidia driver i have to download for my 6600gt
[15:27] <eagles0513875> monkee: r u registered and is he
[15:27] <monkee> oh there is pos prob there, didnt now bout registered thing
[15:28] <eagles0513875> !register |monkee
[15:28] <monkee> ran hd install on drive in laptop, then moved drive over, and did updates and such
[15:28] <ubotu> monkee: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[15:28] <dsmith_> maybe intellikey doesn't waht your P.M.S
[15:28] <dsmith_> (want
[15:28] <eagles0513875> lol
[15:28] <monkee> ya i lack registration
[15:28] <eagles0513875> that was below the belt ds
[15:28] <dsmith_> my gf said it
[15:29] <dsmith_> she was looking over me and said PMS?
[15:29] <KLuneNoire> hey there
[15:29] <eagles0513875> ScottG: u got any ideas bout which nvidia pkg i install on my machine
[15:29] <dsmith_> proprietary one?
[15:29] <monkee> i installed 7.1 from live cd to hd, then moved hd to tablet... then updated and such
[15:29] <dsmith_> 64bit?
[15:30] <monkee> how can i get it to see serial port 5?
[15:30] <intelikey> monkee insert the propper module.
[15:30] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: the restricted drivers dialogue box came up for me to enable it but i accidentally closed it
[15:31] <monkee> no modual, serial port 5 is the touch screen, always there
[15:31] <dsmith_> you still should be able to enable them
[15:31] <intelikey> kernel module
[15:31] <monkee> where how?
[15:32] <dsmith_> eagles0513875: you should still be able to enable them
[15:32] <intelikey>   . /etc/bash_completion
[15:32] <monkee> brb
[15:32] <intelikey> and modprobe  blah[tab]
[15:32] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: the dialogue never popped back up
[15:32] <intelikey> google for info    use tab completion for module names.
[15:33] <dingus> hi all - *this is driving me crazy* Whenever i insert a blank disc, the daemon pops up, correctly recognizing blank media, and asks what i'd like to do.  However, in any burning program (k3b, nerolinux), i'm always prompted to insert a rewritable disc ("no media present").  WTF?
[15:33] <dingus> i've tried editing both hdparm and fstab, to no avail :(
[15:34] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: im getting drive from source
[15:35] <chemicalvamp> intelikey ive found vmlinuz and initrd.. but initrd is a .gz will this work?
[15:35] <intelikey> monkee something like      sudo modprobe serio_raw      i've actually lost interest in trying to find the exact module.  you can search for that as well as i.
[15:35] <monkee> k tinkering with it now
[15:35] <intelikey> chemicalvamp yes the kernel can decompress it
[15:36] <chemicalvamp> intelikey should i have any arguements at all?
[15:37] <dsmith_> ya know, I can deal with all the lil' nuances of *buntu or any other linux distro, so long as I have a stable OS that wont break/crash/BSOD on me
[15:37] <intelikey> i'm out for a while.    Shalom Aleichem all little pinguins this ChristMass.
[15:37] <intelikey> chemicalvamp the root=/dev  yes
[15:37] <dsmith_> cya intelikey
[15:37] <dsmith_> ooops too lae
[15:37] <dsmith_> *late
[15:38] <dingus> does anyone know if there are linux drivers for my Matshita cd/dvd burning drive?
[15:38] <eagles0513875> :( im getting no where
[15:38] <chemicalvamp> intelikey ?
[15:38] <dsmith_> dingus: I dont think you need any
[15:38] <dsmith_> eagles0513875: wahst wrong?
[15:38] <poison_> llo
[15:38] <dsmith_> kubuntu right?/
[15:38] <eagles0513875> need help getting open gl for my nvidia 6600gt to work. had the dialogue box come up but closed out of it and hasnt come up again
[15:39] <dsmith_> !nvidia
[15:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:39] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: ya and 2ndly does direct rendering need to be no or yes in my case
[15:39] <dsmith_> ummmm
[15:39]  * dsmith_ draws aa blank
[15:39] <Artimus> eagles0513875: try running restricted-manager-kde
[15:39] <eagles0513875> Artimus: in cli
[15:39] <dingus> dsmith_: any idea why burning programs always say "no media present" when Kubuntu correctly identifies the inserted disc as a blank?
[15:40] <dsmith_> dingus: I dont know, but I know what your talking about as it does it to me as well.
[15:40] <eagles0513875> Artimus: ty :)
[15:40] <Artimus> eagles0513875: yeah
[15:40] <eagles0513875> Artimus: i just learned something new lol
[15:40] <dingus> dsmith_: did you ever find a fix
[15:40] <dsmith_> no
[15:40] <Artimus> Best of luck.  3D acceleration is nice
[15:40] <dsmith_> but I can burn in kb3
[15:41] <eagles0513875> Artimus: ya then after i get this up and running gotta download wine and install world of warcraft
[15:41] <dsmith_> wow...lol
[15:41] <eagles0513875> on my laptop it worked but rather crappily
[15:41] <eagles0513875> what dsmith_
[15:41] <dsmith_> I have never understood that game..
[15:41] <dsmith_> :))
[15:41] <dingus> dsmith_: k3b just tells me "no media present" on Matshita UJ810 ... i'm gonna have to make another Windows partition! :/
[15:41] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: its fun lol
[15:41] <eagles0513875> and addicting
[15:41] <dsmith_> I know, thats why I never bothered with it
[15:42] <eagles0513875> dingus: is it like that with all media
[15:42] <eagles0513875> im in the money lol
[15:42] <eagles0513875> brb yet again this time with direct rendering lol
[15:42] <dingus> eagles0513875: so how are you supposed to burn any discs?  I can't because k3b or nero just tells me i need to insert a blank disc!
[15:44] <hungrymouse> is there any way to mount iso images (without burning them) in linux?
[15:45] <dingus> !gmount
[15:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gmount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:45] <dingus> hungrymouse: http://tuxenclave.wordpress.com/2007/12/01/gmount-iso-virtual-drive-for-linux/
[15:46] <eagles0513875> :)
[15:46] <Pici> !mountiso | hungrymouse
[15:46] <ubotu> hungrymouse: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » or use the "gmountiso" package - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[15:46] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: :) its working
[15:46] <dsmith_> hungrymouse: acetoneiso
[15:46] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: time to go edit my source list and add wine repos
[15:46] <dsmith_> yay
[15:46] <eagles0513875> lol
[15:46] <hungrymouse> thanks pici.
[15:47] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: this restricted manager is a god send
[15:47] <dsmith_> :)
[15:47] <eagles0513875> on my laptop used to eb a nightmare to config open gl and my wifi card
[15:47] <eagles0513875> cursed broadcom
[15:47] <dsmith_> I say that everytime I do an install
[15:47] <dsmith_> broadcom stinko, inel!
[15:47] <dsmith_> intel
[15:47] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: lol
[15:47] <eagles0513875> just like ati stinko
[15:48] <dsmith_> lol yep
[15:48] <dsmith_> ati stinks for windows even, IMHO
[15:48] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: im honestly hoping i get a new laptop a mac book
[15:49] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: if WoW works on here then i know its the laptop
[15:50] <ScottG> I know with Crossover WoW works well.. my wife is addicted..
[15:50] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. THere was a kid here yeasterday - couldent get WoW working right with crossover office..
[15:50] <eagles0513875> ScottG: has she tried darwine a wine linux to mac port
[15:50] <ScottG> no..
[15:51] <lufthanza> hello, does anyone know how to create new environmental variables?
[15:51] <Dr_willis> But that may been due to his sound I think.. Or WoW+Ventrillo issues
[15:51] <eagles0513875> if i do get a new mac book im goign to duel boot but first im goign to try wiht darwine
[15:51] <eagles0513875> is crossover free
[15:51] <Dr_willis> lufthanza,  export NEWTHING=10000 or similer.
[15:51] <ScottG> yes.. can't get Ventrilo working..
[15:51] <ScottG> we have the paid version of crossover..
[15:51] <Dr_willis> ScottG,  where were you yesterday then. :) heh heh...
[15:51] <lufthanza> Dr_willis: Does that make them persistant?
[15:51] <Dr_willis> lufthanza,  depends on how you define persistant.
[15:52] <eagles0513875> ScottG: lol im a cheap bastard ill go for the free stuff lol
[15:52] <ScottG> my wife played WoW for 22 hours straight.. needless to say I was not on the computer :)
[15:52] <Dr_willis> lufthanza,  a exported variable gets exported to all the child processes of that shell.
[15:52] <eagles0513875> lol
[15:52] <lufthanza> Dr_willis: I want it to exist independant of the shell
[15:52] <Dr_willis> lufthanza,  if you want a Env variable set for EVERYTHING  after you login. set it in your .bashrc or .bash_profile
[15:52] <eagles0513875> my problem on my current laptop is that once its patched it drops from normal 30fps in winblows down to 7
[15:52] <lufthanza> I also want it to remain after reboot
[15:53] <Dr_willis> Bash Basics. :)  I think you want to set them in .bash_profile
[15:53] <ScottG> patches suck.. I don't play but since I had to have Linux it's my responsibility to get it going..
[15:54] <eagles0513875> ScottG: lol im all in 1 lol
[15:54] <eagles0513875> after this last laptop never going wiht an amd again
[15:54] <seezer> eagles0513875: i play wow with (free) wine perfectly at full details with around 50-70 fps
[15:55] <ScottG> I have XP on my laptop.. for work.. Kubuntu took no less than 10 mins to get to a login so I dual booted Mandriva with XP..
[15:55] <eagles0513875> seezer: do u have an ati video card
[15:55] <seezer> and around 30 on my laptop
[15:55] <seezer> (laptop is x1400 mobile)
[15:55] <seezer> (ati)
[15:55] <ScottG> I have an ATI on my laptop..
[15:55] <Dr_willis> I just got a Lowly x200m on my laptop. :)
[15:55] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis: same on mine
[15:55] <ScottG> X300 mobile I think
[15:55] <seezer> desktop has a nvidia (and will always have since amd/ati devs are too stupid..)
[15:56] <monkee> when update / installing stuff, every now and then get asked for cd containing info, to inter into /cdrom/ how can i make it look to flash drive /usb/?
[15:56] <ScottG> Nvidia here on the desktop too.. I knew I was using it for Linux..
[15:56] <eagles0513875> in mine i think im having a really bad heating issue
[15:56] <seezer> the new catalyst 7.12 works "perfect" - if you can stand having only 1280x1024
[15:56] <eagles0513875> wow and i can actually see the txt on the install which is a first
[15:56] <eagles0513875> on my laptop wiht my ati couldnt see any txt on the install buttons
[15:57] <eagles0513875> and installation is so much faster on here and i have the exact same processor on here as i do in my laptop
[15:57] <Dr_willis> monkee,  you really should remove the cd repositories. any updates are not on the cd.  You could copy  all the pacakges from the cd to a directory and set up a source line pointing to it.. but most of the files there will never be used.
[15:57] <eagles0513875> and i have slightly more ram in laptop than on here
[15:57] <eagles0513875> brb guys need somethign to munch on
[15:57] <monkee> yes, this install, this time i forgot to do that, reloaded this think like 3 times now hahaha
[15:59] <Chemicalvamp> ok so ive got an issue with booting a live cd (on a harddrive partition) ive got grub loading the vmlinuz and initrd.. but it goes through and scns the computer. but does not load anything.. any ideas?
[16:07] <jhutchins> Dr_willis: On the other hand, some packages never update, and if you have a less-than-brilliant connection, it might be better to pull a file that hasn't updated off the CD if you decided to install something new.
[16:08] <jhutchins> If you have both enabled, it should default to the CD when the online version is no newer.
[16:08] <florent> When I take Nvidia Driver --> 800*600 and when I don't take it --> good resolution !
[16:08] <florent> Can you help me ?
[16:08] <florent> plizzz
[16:09] <jhutchins> florent: Um, isn't that like "doctor, when I hitmyself in the head with this hammer, I get headaches."   Use whatever works best for you.
[16:09] <Chemicalvamp> Is there a way to view all the drives on your computer the same way as grub sees them? cuz hd0,0 is my flash drive.. and hd0,3 is hda4.... >.<
[16:10] <jhutchins> Chemicalvamp: Well, fdisk -l will give you the device names, I'm not sure what gives you bus id's.
[16:10] <florent> Yes, but without Nvidia Driver , i can't play !
[16:10] <florent> tremulous, warsow doesn't work !
[16:11] <Chemicalvamp> jhutchins does it make sence that my sda2 is 0,0??
[16:11] <florent> don't*
[16:11] <monkee> whoever mentioned changing repository earlier ty, just fixed 2 things in process
[16:11] <jhutchins> Chemicalvamp: Not really, but i guess if you've got a flash it might.
[16:11] <monkee> got pissy at it, and wasnt thinking bout few things till u said that
[16:12] <jhutchins> florent: If you want to play windows games, why aren't you running windows?
[16:12] <jhutchins> florent: Linux is not a free tool for running Windows games.
[16:12] <florent> jhutchins: IT'S NOT WINDOWS GAME
[16:12] <jhutchins> florent: ok, no need to shout.
[16:12] <florent> and if I want to play sometimes on linux, it's my right !
[16:13] <jhutchins> florent: I have an ancient Radeon that does everything I want just fine, but everything I want is 2d.
[16:13] <jhutchins> !nvidia | florent: Here's all I know
[16:13] <ubotu> florent: Here's all I know: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:13] <jhutchins> ubotu?
[16:13] <eagles0513875> !ubotu
[16:13] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:13] <eagles0513875> !nvidia
[16:14] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: already done.
[16:14] <eagles0513875> ok
[16:14] <eagles0513875> seezer: what 2 files can i copy of the cd's to where i can install without em
[16:17] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: Bot must be flooded and/or lagged today, usually if someone repeats a question it just says "see above".
[16:18] <eagles0513875> ahh
[16:18] <eagles0513875> jhutchins: who has bot to resset the bot
[16:18] <jpatrick> !lag | Juukamen
[16:18] <ubotu> Juukamen: You have lag, I don't have lag
[16:19] <jpatrick> er, that was for jhutchins :)
[16:19] <jhutchins> florent: Where in Finlans?
[16:19] <jhutchins> florent: Where in Finland?
[16:19] <jhutchins> Sheesh, can't type this morning.
[16:19] <Chemicalvamp> !botsnack
[16:19] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[16:19] <Juukamen> huh ?
[16:20] <Chemicalvamp> i dk lol
[16:20] <jpatrick> Juukamen: sorry, wrong guy :)
[16:21]  * jhutchins hopes that florent's silence means he's off reading the howto.
[16:21] <Juukamen> l0l =)
[16:22] <Chemicalvamp> so if i install gutsy on a harddrive and move it into another laptop what are the odds it will work?
[16:24] <ScottG> I think it'll work but what do I know? :)
[16:24] <ScottG> it'll recognize the new hardware..
[16:25] <mak> how can i instal a ".deb"-package?
[16:25] <jari> hi, I was here earlier asking help for getting logitech USB working and now I wanted to ask that could it be that the input from the "regular" mic port should be disabled in order to make the OS receive input from the USB?
[16:25] <ScottG> right click it.. it will give you the option to install..
[16:26] <mak> ScottG: ok, thanks, but how can i install this package in the terminal
[16:26] <ScottG> or.. type.. sudo dpkg -i xx.deb
[16:27] <kurt> guys, i cannot delete files who are on my pro duo stick, i entered as gksudo konqueror but it won't work
[16:27] <mak> ScottG: ok thanks ;)
[16:27] <ScottG> welcome :)
[16:37] <sigma_123> hey hey hey its almost xmas:)
[16:37] <Dr_willis> Chemicalvamp,  ive done similer things befor. Issue can be the specific configs/settings for sound/video and other hardware.. it MIGHT take a little work.
[16:37] <Dr_willis> Chemicalvamp,  but the hardware detection in kubuntu si very good. :)
[16:37] <dsmith_> my mounted devices disappear in kubuntu from the desktop, why?
[16:38] <Dr_willis> Theres a setting to show/hide mounted devices. I belive.
[16:38] <dsmith_> I think its a bug
[16:38] <Dr_willis> are they shown in system:/media   still
[16:39] <dsmith_> yes
[16:39] <Dr_willis> Actually i think the setting allows show Only Unmounted media, or both..
[16:39] <Dr_willis> I tend to disable all icons on the desktop. :) so i dont even reber where taht setting is at
[16:40] <Dr_willis> brb.....
[16:40] <dsmith_> i know wher eit is, they just disappear
[16:47] <dsmith_> see if I do a umount on one the drives, they reappear
[16:47] <dsmith_> weird
[16:47] <eagles0513875> have u downloaded updated pkgs
[16:47] <dsmith_> ? no
[16:47] <dsmith_> kubuntu has always acted like this
[16:47] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: try that might fix the issue
[16:48] <bazhang> is the Flash..just kidding..Merry Holidays!
[16:48] <dsmith_> updates?
[16:48] <dsmith_> I do that all the time
[16:48] <eagles0513875> ok
[16:48] <dsmith_> its a bug I think
[16:48] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: did u post a bug on launchpad
[16:48] <eagles0513875> !launchpad |dsmith
[16:48] <ubotu> dsmith: Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[16:49] <eagles0513875> tthats the only way its going to get fixed
[16:49] <dsmith_> register?
[16:49] <dsmith_> why
[16:49] <dsmith_> hmmmm
[16:52] <eagles0513875> its free
[16:53] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: that way u report bugs and help make the ubuntu line even better
[16:54] <dsmith_> ok I see nothing like the bug I am having brbr
[16:54] <eagles0513875> have fun reporting
[16:54] <eagles0513875> ill brb
[16:56] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: do u know any programming languages
[16:57] <dsmith_> Bug #178479
[16:57] <don-juan> ciao
[16:57] <dsmith_> no
[16:58] <eagles0513875> nm was goign to say if u did take a stab at debugging urself lol
[16:58] <don-juan> #fusion
[16:58] <dingus> crap! i accidentally deleted my hdparm.conf - is there a way i can generate a new one???
[16:59] <nosrednaekim> dingus: you could probably use someone else's
[16:59] <dingus> nosrednaekim: is there a generic example somewhere?
[16:59] <nosrednaekim> dingus: probably...
[16:59] <eagles0513875> dingus: did u make a back up of it
[17:04] <dingus1> nosrednaekim: u still there?
[17:04] <nosrednaekim> yes
[17:04] <dingus1> sorry- my computer locks up when i insert a disc now :(
[17:04] <dingus1> so... where can i get a new hdparm.conf?
[17:05] <nosrednaekim> dingus1: you can use mine..
[17:06] <dingus1> ok.....plz post somewhere
[17:07] <dingus1> nosrednaekim: also, maybe you can help (this is why i was messing with it in the first place): when i insert a blank disc, it is correctly identified by the daemon, but in k3b or nero linux, it says there is no media present.  what gives?
[17:08] <nosrednaekim> its probably not burnable
[17:08] <dingus1> nosrednaekim: they're all blank discs that burn in windows
[17:09] <dingus1> and the Kubuntu daemon recognizes that i've inserted a blank disc
[17:09] <nosrednaekim> dingus1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49487/   you may need to modify that from /dev/hda to sda..
[17:10] <dingus1> nosrednaekim: thanks!
[17:12] <dettoaltrimenti> can I run fdisk on any unmounted partition, even an NTFS partition?
[17:12] <dettoaltrimenti> sorry, I mean fsck
[17:12] <dingus1> nosrednaekim: but since all but one lines are commented, they won't do anythign anyway, right?
[17:12] <nosrednaekim> dettoaltrimenti: fdisk is run on a disk, not a pratition
[17:12] <nosrednaekim> dettoaltrimenti: don't think it works on NTFS
[17:13] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[17:16] <dingus1> nosrednaekim: any other ideas why k3b and other burning programs see no media present when there is a blank disc inserted?
[17:19] <nosrednaekim> no... I thnk they probably don't detect it as blank.I believe you can force them to burn though..
[17:20] <dingus1> nosrednaekim: that's what i've been reading, but i don't see an option where to (maybe that was only in older versions?)
[17:20] <nosrednaekim> yeah...
[17:21] <eshat> are there any testservers that i can connect to with VNC or RDP ???
[17:23] <jussi01> eshat: not that i know of
[17:25] <effie_jayx> eagles0513875:  I still get the same ata1.00: exception Emask error
[17:26] <effie_jayx> thanks for the help
[17:27] <kurt> i just installed prboom, i want to know where
[17:27] <kurt> can someone help me with this
[17:27] <kurt> it's not in games folder
[17:27] <_cj> which prboom?
[17:28] <kurt> you know, doom game
[17:28] <kurt> since i can't figure out how to get full screen lxdoom
[17:29] <kurt> so how can i know where i installed the game
[17:29] <jussi01> kurt: try prboom from the command line
[17:32] <_cj> kurt - which is a command line utility
[17:34] <Tim_B> Can anyone point me to any additional information for solving a problem with KDE systemsettings app crashing  and all it's icons (along with KControl) being in Lost & Found menu?
[17:35] <kurt> if i start prboom after 10 seconds it freezes and i have to log out, any idea how it comes
[17:35] <kurt> i would try lxdoom but don't know how to play that on full screen
[17:35] <kurt> why is everything so complicated
[17:36] <Tim_B> This issue occurred following an upgrade from Feisty Fawn to Gutsy Gibbon in October. These link appear relavent, but do not solve my problems:
[17:36] <Tim_B> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-systemsettings/+bug/114286
[17:36] <Tim_B> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/115014
[17:38] <jussi01> kurt: are you just after a good fps?
[17:38] <kurt> really want to play doom but i hear you got some alternative
[17:39] <jussi01> kurt: ;) Tremulous!
[17:39] <jussi01> kurt: have you played it before?
[17:39] <jussi01> !info tremulous
[17:39] <ubotu> tremulous: Aliens vs Humans, team based FPS game with elements of an RTS. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0-4 (gutsy), package size 645 kB, installed size 1512 kB
[17:39] <kurt> never heard of it
[17:39] <DreadKnight> i prefer open arena or warsow ;) very nice shooters
[17:39] <jussi01> kurt: install it, its in the repos - absolutely amazing
[17:40] <kurt> is it multi or single
[17:40] <jussi01> kurt: multiplayer
[17:40] <kurt> i like single against computer
[17:40] <DreadKnight> sudo apt-get install openarena
[17:40] <kurt> anyone here that played lxdoom or prboom ?
[17:41] <jussi01> kurt: neither here
[17:42] <kurt> ok thanks, bye
[17:45] <RogueJediX> Any easy way to determine which app is using my audio device right now?
[17:46] <hydrogen> likely artsd
[17:46] <hydrogen> because kubuntu insists on using it
[17:46] <hydrogen> even though its absolutely horrible
[17:47] <RogueJediX> I heard somewhere KDE4 will do away with it
[17:47] <nosrednaekim> yay! Phonon!
[17:47] <RogueJediX> Yeah, killing it worked. Thanks, hydrogen
[17:48] <hydrogen> yea, kde4 will do away with it
[17:48] <hydrogen> kde3 distros should have done away with it
[17:48] <RogueJediX> So, you'll finally be able to use multiple audio apps at once?
[17:49] <hydrogen> you've been able to do that for a while
[17:49] <hydrogen> without arts
[17:49] <RogueJediX> Yeah, that's what I meant. I'm just too lazy to switch :P
[17:50] <RogueJediX> Probably a hassle too
[17:55] <HS^^> wow i have to say here that kde4rc2 is terrible.  on the right click menu,  there is no 'new folder/file'? many icons are missing, the start menu is useless and ugly. so far for destructive criticism but i cant say any good about it.
[17:56] <ScottG> I agree completely..
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> HS^^: yeah, plasma is a bit behind... but things are improving rapidly! a release ago, thre wasn't even a right click menu :D
[17:57] <eagles0513875> plasma is on the way out nos
[17:57] <nosrednaekim> with whom.
[17:57] <eagles0513875> laser tvs r in
[17:57] <eagles0513875> lol
[17:57] <nosrednaekim> eagles0513875: hope that was sarcasm..
[17:57] <nosrednaekim> good :D
[17:57] <eagles0513875> no it wasnt
[17:57] <eagles0513875> im serious
[17:57] <eagles0513875> plasmas r obsolete
[17:58] <HS^^> is plasma that clock on the desktop?? wow fantastic
[17:58] <nosrednaekim> oh... well, plasma is the name of the KDE4 destop
[17:58] <ScottG> he meant the interface in KDE4.. plasma
[17:58] <HS^^> i think the kde3 was better without that
[17:58] <eagles0513875> oh my bad
[17:58] <eagles0513875> i thought u were talking about tvs
[17:58] <HS^^> but how can people still talk positive about this..  i downloaded the live cd from topic
[17:58] <ScottG> nope.. we can't be off topic :)
[17:58] <eagles0513875> lol
[17:59] <deuryt1> jjj123
[17:59] <HS^^> and well... its the worst desktop since 10 years
[17:59] <HS^^> i think windows 95 is superior to that
[17:59] <nosrednaekim> HS^^: calm down... its a RC of a .0 release....
[17:59] <beppe> hi, I'm trzing to install a language-learning dvd for windows with wine. it complains that the ie version is too old. do I have any chance that it will work if I install ie, or is there any way to bypass this?
[17:59] <RogueJediX> HS^^: Well, considering it isn't even complete yet...
[17:59] <ScottG> but it's getting close to release.. what? mid January?
[17:59] <HS^^> nosrednaekim what you mean
[17:59] <nosrednaekim> beppe: #winehq
[18:00] <beppe> nosrednaekim: tnx
[18:00] <HS^^> its close to kde4
[18:00] <HS^^> and basicly rc2 is shit.  how can they fix this.
[18:00] <HS^^> the menu is SO big and so ugly
[18:00] <HS^^> damn
[18:00] <nosrednaekim> HS^^: I mean that they put alot of time into the underlying infrastructure, now that that is in place, everything else is relatively easy
[18:00] <HS^^> yes thats all nice talk
[18:00] <ScottG> you can't right click on the bottom bar to resize it..
[18:01] <HS^^> but why believe it
[18:01] <RogueJediX> HS^^: You really don't have to. There are other options out there, if that suits you better
[18:01] <ScottG> well.. take a "wait and see" approach.. it's fine to be skeptical, but save the negativity for the final product :)
[18:01] <nosrednaekim> HS^^: because, if you have been following the development progress(like I have), you would
[18:01] <bazhang> kde4 and hardy will be amazing, but that is off-topic on several levels sorry
[18:01] <RogueJediX> Myself, I'm optimistic about KDE4, still
[18:02] <ScottG> reading the dev list I'm curious to see how the devs can manage KDE3 and KDE4 simultaneously..
[18:03] <HS^^> RogueJediX have you tried rc2?
[18:03] <SSJ_GZ> ScottG: KDE3 is largely on life-support.
[18:03] <ScottG> I gathered that.. and no LTS for Kubuntu..
[18:04] <RogueJediX> HS^^: Nope, I'm waiting for a final release. I'll pass judgement on it then
[18:04] <ScottG> but this is all publicly available information..
[18:04] <ScottG> for a regular desktop user what difference does it make if it's an LTS?
[18:05] <ScottG> I understand the business contract end of things..
[18:05] <bazhang> less flash more stability
[18:06] <RogueJediX> Shouldn't we move this to #kubuntu-offtopic? I feel like we're about to tick some op off
[18:06] <HS^^> no one is there
[18:06] <ScottG> we're talking about kubuntu..
[18:06] <jussi01> Guys, can we keep it to support in here?
[18:06] <ScottG> ok
[18:06] <jussi01> ScottG: he is right
[18:06] <jussi01> :)
[18:06] <RogueJediX> Isn't this mainly for support and such?
[18:07] <eagles0513875> yes it is
[18:07] <jussi01> !ot
[18:07] <HS^^> who needs support?
[18:07] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[18:07] <ScottG> it is.. sorry.. no one asking support questions so please no one talk at all..
[18:07] <eagles0513875> lol
[18:07] <eagles0513875> sir yes sir
[18:10] <dsmith_> lol
[18:11] <Cyborg> hi everyone
[18:11] <jussi01> !hi | Cyborg
[18:11] <ubotu> Cyborg: Hi!  :D
[18:11] <ScottG> j/k
[18:11] <bazhang> haha
[18:12] <eagles0513875> Lol
[18:12] <Cyborg> me ? :)
[18:12] <eagles0513875> ohhhhhhhhhhh scott broke his own rule of silence if its not a support topic ohhhhhhhhh im telling
[18:12] <RogueJediX> Cyborg: Congrats, you are now a convict!
[18:13] <Jeroi> happy xmas
[18:13] <Cyborg> the same 4 u
[18:13] <eagles0513875> ohhhh offf topic lol
[18:13] <eagles0513875> j/k
[18:13] <RogueJediX> Cyborg: Touche ;)
[18:14] <eagles0513875> im pumped lol
[18:16] <elisabeth> hello whenever i changed menu.lst of grub and do "update-grub", menu.lst will be changed
[18:16] <elisabeth> do i need any othe command?
[18:17] <malakhi> elisabeth: what changes are you trying to make?
[18:18] <Cyborg> guys i am new to Kubuntu and to linux in general. i've got a Q, how can i switch between keyboard layout with clicking on the language flag ?
[18:18] <Cyborg> without*
[18:19] <elisabeth> malakhi: i added a new hdd with windows, so i want to add a boot option for windows
[18:19] <jussi01> !keyboard
[18:19] <ubotu> To switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[18:19] <jussi01> !grub | elisabeth
[18:19] <ubotu> elisabeth: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:21] <elisabeth> ubotu: i already installed windows, i had some problems with harddiscs so i disabled hdd included windows and isntalled new kubuntu version in the other hdd and after a enabled the win hdd ...
[18:21] <jussi01> !bot | elisabeth
[18:21] <ubotu> elisabeth: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[18:21] <nonewmsgs> help i changed my resolution and now it all kinds of MUKED UP
[18:21] <jussi01> elisabeth: just follow the grub after windows should fix it for you
[18:22] <malakhi> elisabeth: it's best to add the windows boot entry after the Debian automagic kernels list.
[18:22] <nonewmsgs> it wont let me change res back above 640x480 despite that i manually did my xorg.conf myself before
[18:22] <malakhi> elisabeth: update-grub will change everything between the ###BEGIN/END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[18:22] <elisabeth> ok thanks
[18:23] <Cyborg> guys is there a shortcut key to switch between the keyboard layers? i have two layers installed but i don't want everytime to click on the flag to change it
[18:24] <emilsedgh> Cyborg: layer?
[18:24] <emilsedgh> Cyborg: you mean Layout? yes there is
[18:24] <Cyborg> sorry layout
[18:24] <emilsedgh> Cyborg: go to system settings->keyboard & mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[18:24] <emilsedgh> Cyborg: the last item in list is Switch To Next Keyboard Layout
[18:25] <Cyborg> cool thanks emilsedgh
[18:25] <nonewmsgs> ok what is command for dpkg reconfigure xorg
[18:25] <nonewmsgs> i know it says xserver and has dashes
[18:25] <jpatrick> nonewmsgs: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:26] <nonewmsgs> cheers
[18:27] <nonewmsgs> do i want kernal framebuffer?
[18:27] <jpatrick> no idea
[18:28] <jussi01> nonewmsgs: it shouldnt make a difference, but go yes
[18:28] <nonewmsgs> thanks
[18:29] <Cyborg> c u later guys bye
[18:31] <fredo> salut, ya des pro ? je cherche a connaitre le titre d'un cd introduit !? en commande bien sur !
[18:31] <jussi01> !fr | fredo
[18:31] <ubotu> fredo: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[18:31] <jussi01> fredo: english in here ;)
[18:31] <fredo> yes , thank
[18:32] <greg_> Could someone help me with a problem i'm having with Adept Manager ? Essentially everytime I start it, it says the apt-get is already running and hence it can only open in read-only mode, any ideas ?
[18:33] <jussi01> !adeptfix | greg_
[18:33] <ubotu> greg_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:33] <ScottG> no point in trying to help here.. the bot is faster..
[18:34] <tilgovi> Has anyone got kde4 installed?
[18:34] <tilgovi> I'm getting errors about libgif and libungif when I try
[18:34] <jussi01> tilgovi: I do
[18:34] <jussi01> !brokenkde4
[18:34] <ubotu> If you're having trouble installing KDE4, in a !Terminal run: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | grep "4:3.97.0" |awk '{print $2}') » then run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » - After that install KDE4 as normal
[18:35] <jussi01> tilgovi: that may help
[18:35] <jussi01> greg_: did that fix it for you?
[18:35] <greg_> jussi01: Worked like a charm, thanks alot!
[18:35] <jussi01> grade_: great :)
[18:35] <vzduch> hi guys
[18:36] <jussi01> hiya vzduch
[18:36] <vzduch> is there a netsplit going on atm?  I can't seem to be able to auto-identify
[18:36] <tilgovi> ubotu: do I need the repository listed here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[18:36] <tilgovi> oh, whoops
[18:36] <tilgovi> bot
[18:36] <tilgovi> jussi01: can you answer that?
[18:36] <jussi01> tilgovi: yes
[18:37] <tilgovi> jussi01 do I change the last part to hardy if I'm running it?
[18:38] <eagles0513875> dsmith_: :)
[18:38] <eagles0513875> im in a really good moood atm
[18:38] <eagles0513875> KUBUNTU 64 bit rocks my socks
[18:39] <vzduch> odd.. trying something..
[18:39] <eagles0513875> ScottG: :) guess what
[18:40] <ScottG> is that a support question?
[18:40] <ScottG> :)
[18:40] <deuryt1> jjj123
[18:40] <jussi01> tilgovi: ummm, you need to as in #ubuntu+1 fo hardy stuff
[18:40] <TimS> Hello hello
[18:40] <nonewmsgs> ok my resolution was back to normal after a reboot
[18:40] <tilgovi> jussi01: thanks
[18:40] <jussi01> tilgovi: I dont know about hardy stufdf
[18:41] <ScottG> I was going to stay away because everytime I stsrt typing a bot command gets issued and I have to erase it all.. now I'll just watch and learn :)
[18:41] <nonewmsgs> for my login screen but then i logged into kde and it's back to 640x480
[18:42] <nonewmsgs> gnome works fine
[18:42] <jussi01> ScottG: just learn the bot factoids...
[18:45] <nonewmsgs> hilfe rette much bitte!
[18:45] <vzduch> !de | nonewmsgs
[18:45] <ubotu> nonewmsgs: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:46] <nonewmsgs> pardon my french, what i meant to say was please help me.  my gnome has good resolution but not my kde.  i have dpkg-ed and reset up my xorg.conf file
[18:47] <peter_> so i have wireless installed.  but in what program do i connect.. give the password etc.
[18:48] <jussi01> peter_: you should be able to do that with network manager - in the taskbar
[18:48] <ScottG> I was looking up the bot command :D
[18:49] <peter_> jussio01, is there nothing like windows.  so it can save more as 1 web key?
[18:50] <peter_> cant i scan for the wireless networks?
[18:51] <jussi01> peter_: network mananger should have them listed when you right click on it
[18:52] <peter_> no
[18:52] <peter_> do i need to restart first maybe
[18:53] <tilgovi> Any way to revert back to the packages that were installed from the cd only?
[18:53] <tilgovi> Or do I just need to boot it up again and reinstall from it
[19:02] <peter_> Well i dont see how to get wireless to work.  i installed the driver. in knetwork manager i set it on enabled.
[19:02] <peter_> now what..
[19:06] <Politics101> Great Youtube Video, this guy should run for president himself!!:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZAqZUafCdM
[19:08] <vzduch> !offtopic | Politics101
[19:08] <ubotu> Politics101: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[19:08] <ScottG> pure spam :)
[19:09] <vzduch> no idea, didn't look
[19:09] <vzduch> probably won't see anything anyway.. I'm on a live CD atm
[19:11] <jtholmes> looked all over need to know how to test my mic in kubuntu?
[19:12] <nosrednaekim> jtholmes: get a simple music recorder like krecord
[19:13] <jtholmes> nosrednaekim, thanks will do
[19:19] <nonewmsgs> what are the advantages of using kde programs like kopote vs gnome ones like pidgin
[19:19] <emilsedgh> nonewmsgs: Most of the KApplications has more features
[19:20] <nonewmsgs> indeed emilsedgh but i do like pidgin
[19:20] <ScottG> I prefer Pidgin in this case..
[19:20] <emilsedgh> nonewmsgs: you have the feedom to choose the application you like :(
[19:20] <emilsedgh> :)
[19:20] <nonewmsgs> i know it but i was wondering if it required more libraries (and thus more ram)
[19:21] <nonewmsgs> not an important question but just pondering really
[19:22] <Politics101> Great Youtube Video, this guy should run for president himself!!:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZAqZUafCdM
[19:22] <nonewmsgs> s;
[19:22] <nonewmsgs> once is offtopic two and three times is spam
[19:24] <nosrednaekim> nonewmsgs: yes, that does use more RAM
[19:25] <nosrednaekim> but if you are already using firefox, then its negligible
[19:25] <ubuntu> hi?
[19:25] <nosrednaekim> hi!
[19:25] <nonewmsgs> uboto | hi
[19:26] <nonewmsgs> ubuntu | hi
[19:26] <ubuntu> I have a Question
[19:26] <nosrednaekim> ask :D
[19:27] <ubuntu> I am running the Kubuntu Live CD... and I am wanting to press the button, install this permanently.... BUT:
[19:27] <ubuntu> I am affraid I do not have the chance to choose to which drive it lets me install it and wheteher I can format that drive beforehand
[19:28] <_cj> lol
[19:28] <vzduch> ubuntu: you do
[19:28] <nonewmsgs> yes in step 3
[19:28] <nonewmsgs> step 3 being the third step following step 2 will allow this
[19:28] <_cj> even windows does that
[19:28] <vzduch> nonewmsgs: rofl
[19:28] <ubuntu> Well, I am a complete newbie and I don't want to f things up... lol, sorry
[19:28] <nosrednaekim> guys.... be nice
[19:28] <effie_jayx> ata1.00: exception Emask error when booting ... any clue ?
[19:29] <nonewmsgs> im just kidding cj.  i meant no harm
[19:30] <ubuntu> Another Question... when in Konquerer, when I press 'control all these bloody little letters (looks like scrabble tiles) appears on the screen
[19:30] <ubuntu> what does that mean?
[19:31] <Lynoure> ubuntu: it allows you to navigate web with keyboard
[19:31] <Lynoure> ubuntu: one letter per link
[19:32] <ubuntu> that's maddness, lol
[19:32] <SudoKing> is it a software or hardware problem if I changed the driver configuration and now the screen flickers off evry once in a while and I have to press the keyboard to get it back on?
[19:32] <Lynoure> not madness, quite handy sometimes
[19:32] <Lynoure> ubuntu: just press control again if you want it gone.
[19:32] <ubuntu> I think I like Linux... I was always so afraid to try it
[19:32] <SudoKing> :)
[19:32] <SudoKing> glad you do
[19:32] <ubuntu> One Final Question, this could be serious!!!
[19:32] <nixternal> ubuntu: those tiles are for accessibility, you can turn them off in Konqueror's settings
[19:32] <SSJ_GZ> ubuntu: You can turn the feature off, but I forget how.
[19:33] <vzduch> SudoKing: sounds just like power management or screensaver function
[19:33] <SudoKing> hmm
[19:33] <SudoKing> I don't have a screensaver set
[19:34] <vzduch> there's a trick to that.. but I too wonder why it does that even after disabling screensaver and even uninstalling KPowersave
[19:34] <ubuntu> Ok, When I inserted and istalled the Kubuntu CD, It could not run under normal graphics mode (it made a bunch of silly lines on the screen), I had to select 'safe graphics mode', could this foreshaddow serious graphics incompatibilities?
[19:35] <nixternal> ubuntu: ATI video card and a wide screen LCD by chance?
[19:35] <ubuntu> no, Geforce 6800 and normal LCD
[19:36] <ubuntu> so? Any idea?
[19:36] <nightfire> I have lots of ideas but I don't think any of them meet your need
[19:37] <nixternal> haha
[19:37] <ubuntu> ok, but seriously now?
[19:37] <nightfire> for what question ?
[19:37] <nixternal> ubuntu: it is the driver and screen res on the live cd being a pain...it goes away when you install typically...another thing you can try is downloading the alpha-2 hardy live cd and see if the lines are still there
[19:38] <nixternal> I believe the update to fix that line problem was back ported, or updated in gutsy after the live cd was released
[19:38] <ubuntu> ok, thanks...
[19:38] <ubuntu> oh, and can I run firefox in Kubuntu?
[19:38] <ScottG> yes
[19:38] <ubuntu> Cool... thanks
[19:38] <nixternal> ubuntu: yes, but you have to donate $25 to mozilla first ;)
[19:39] <ScottG> :)
[19:39] <ubuntu> I'm going to install it now, PERMA-nently
[19:39] <nixternal> sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox
[19:39] <ScottG> let us know how it goes :)
[19:39] <nixternal> get that evil beast off of my machine! :p
[19:44] <ubuntu> I'm back
[19:44] <ubuntu> Need one last thing, hehe
[19:44] <ScottG> that was quick :)
[19:45] <ScottG> yeah?
[19:45] <ubuntu> Should I choose, Guided, or manuel setup? I need to format the drive it's going to install to
[19:45] <ScottG> is it going to use a whole drive?
[19:45] <ubuntu> YES!
[19:46] <ScottG> then yes, guided will be suitable.. otherwise manual to select specific partitions..
[19:46] <mijo> I just installed kubuntu with manual setup for the first time. Worked well
[19:46] <ubuntu> Ok... then I'm off
[19:46] <ubuntu> thanks
[19:46] <ScottG> either way works
[19:46] <ScottG> manual gives more control..
[19:46] <nightfire> is Kbuntu alot different than ubuntu ?
[19:47] <mijo> I chose separate /, /var and /home partitions
[19:47] <crimsun> nightfire: not truly.
[19:47] <ScottG> it lags a little behind but otherwise very similar
[19:47] <ubuntu> you guys rule, Linux people are so much friendlier and so much more competent than Windows users
[19:47] <mijo> nightfire: To me it seems just to be the graphical shell that looks different. Otherwise it's the same thing
[19:47] <ScottG> well.. in Ubuntu KDE can be added..
[19:47] <ScottG> Gnome is the default
[19:47] <ScottG> thanks ubuntu
[19:48] <ScottG> I try..
[19:48] <ScottG> :)
[19:48] <ubuntu> Is Kubuntu or Ubuntu better?
[19:48] <nightfire> thanks
[19:48] <mijo> ScottG: I tried that, but then I got ubuntu and kubuntu apps mixed in the menus. Looked very cluttered to me
[19:48] <ScottG> ubuntu: it
[19:48] <ScottG> it's a matter of preference
[19:48] <ScottG> I prefer KDE over Gnome..
[19:48] <ubuntu> Because I think I just used my last bit of ADSL cap to freaking download this thing, and I thought I was doing the right thing by choosing Kubuntu above Ubuntu
[19:49] <ScottG> I feel KDE is more flexible, configurable and I guess I just like it more :)
[19:49] <ScottG> you can add "ubuntu-desktop" to Kubuntu to try that too..
[19:49] <ubuntu> Which is better for a n00b
[19:49] <ScottG> not as big as another ISO
[19:49] <ScottG> either..
[19:50] <ubuntu> ok, then i'm fully reassured and I'm off
[19:50] <ubuntu> g'bye, again
[19:50] <ScottG> good luck.. see you soon..
[19:50] <mijo> My installation of kubuntu went without any problems. That's always nice
[19:51] <sigma> how do you create a shortcut to a folder on the k-menu?
[19:52] <Lynoure> an entry into k-menu that is a shortcut to a folder, you mean?
[19:52] <ScottG> drag it there
[19:52] <sigma> Lynoure: yup thats what i mean, i tried dragging - it didnt work - the items don't show up on the k-menu after saving
[19:53] <Lynoure> sigma: right click on kmenu, file -> new item
[19:53] <sigma> say i want it to open "/home/sigma" what is the command?
[19:54] <Lynoure> sigma: then name it. Then modify the command to say  dolphin /home/sigma
[19:54] <Lynoure> or similarly with konq, if that rocks your world
[19:54] <sigma> Lynoure: and if im using konqueror?
[19:54] <Lynoure> Click on save in the end, and your good to go.
[19:54] <sigma> Lynoure: what is the command for konq?
[19:54] <arrrghhh> hey guys... so i've been driving myself crazy trying to find a very simple setting - the setting that disables mouse scroll wheel navigates windows and emulate a three button mouse... i looked in system settings for the better part of an hour to no avail.  i thought that's where i found them before, but i cannot!
[19:55] <ScottG> pretty easy solution..
[19:55] <sigma> Lynoure: ok its working, thanks:)
[19:55] <Lynoure> sigma: you are welcome :)
[19:57] <arrrghhh> anyone?  i want to shade/unshade with the mousewheel, not switch active windows...
[19:57] <sigma> i dont understand edubuntu, it uses so many kde educational apps but is still using gnome as the default desktop, would it not make more sense to use kde?
[19:58] <sigma> arrghhh: hmmm i've never heard that one before, did u try google it?
[19:58] <girolamo> !italiano
[19:58] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:58] <arrrghhh> i think edubuntu is developed moreso by people who develop for ubuntu...
[19:59] <arrrghhh> i've found the setting before, and now i cannot...
[19:59] <sigma> arrghhh: yeah good point! forgot about that one
[19:59] <ScottG> argh.. right click the KDE start button..
[19:59] <ScottG> Panel Menu > Configure pal
[20:00] <ScottG> panel
[20:00] <ScottG> under taskbar
[20:00] <ScottG> on the bottom
[20:00] <ScottG> is that what you're referring to?
[20:01] <Lynoure> Did not sound like that.
[20:01] <arrrghhh> no i looked there... so the default mousewheel option is to navigate active windows, right?
[20:02] <Lynoure> arrrghhh: I tend to like doubleclick for shade-unshade, but I can try to find it for you.
[20:02] <arrrghhh> well i found the setting to shade/unshade with the mousewheel, but that switching active windows takes precedent until i disable it.  i found it before, i thought it was in system settings but i'm striking out...
[20:02] <Lynoure> arrrghhh: mousewheel on taskbar navigates windows, cannot remember what the default on titlebars is.
[20:02] <sigma> my mousewheel just makes webpages move up and down, im sure you can disable what your one is doing
[20:03] <Lynoure> arrrghhh: System settings -> Window behavior -> Titlebar actions -> Titlebar wheel event
[20:04] <arrrghhh> if i put my mouse on a titlebar and scroll the wheel, it switches windows.
[20:04] <ScottG> right click on desktop..
[20:04] <wubba> !usb
[20:04] <ubotu> For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[20:04] <ScottG> Behavior
[20:04] <wubba> !wireless
[20:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:05] <sigma> oh yes i wanted to ask - that mscorefonts package in the repo - is it legal for everyone to use? i thought those fonts were copyrights of microsoft
[20:05] <ScottG> er.. Configure desktop
[20:05] <ScottG> then bahvior
[20:05] <pauljw> arrrghhh: rt clk on the title bar and select configure window behavior, the option is there to make the wheel shade /unshade
[20:05] <arrrghhh> Lynoure: yes, that is the setting i found.  now there's another setting somewhere, i don't know where, (i thought it would be under mouse settings)
[20:05] <arrrghhh> there it is!
[20:05] <ScottG> a bunch more :)
[20:06] <arrrghhh> you guys are close, but i found it in window decoration under configure window behavior - "cycle tasks with mouse wheel"
[20:06] <arrrghhh> if you don't disable that, the mousewheel shade/unshade is worthless.
[20:07] <ScottG> that's where I saw it.. pauljw pointed there
[20:07] <pauljw> :)
[20:07] <arrrghhh> ah that's better thanks.  now what about emulating a three button mouse?  i like being able to right/left click at the same time to close ff tabs or open links in a bg tab...
[20:07] <wubba> Can Ubuntu see a flash drive that is fat16?
[20:08] <sigma> should be able to
[20:09] <wubba> I need to install some drivers for a wireless ethernet card and I was hoping to put the files on the flash drive
[20:09] <arrrghhh> http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/06/17/ubuntu-feisty-on-your-usb-drive-finally/ - i would say yes, that guy puts it in a fat16 partition.
[20:09] <wubba> ok - thanks
[20:10] <arrrghhh> so does anyone know where the settings are to emulate a three button mouse?  it's not in the obvious mouse options under system settings...
[20:12] <artur_> Does anyone  here had problem with skype(i can hear the person, but the person can't hear me) that is now solved?
[20:13] <Bynw> i'm using kubuntu and wanted to add some user accounts for other family members. went to user management, hit the administration mode and entered my password but the "new" button is still greyed out and cant be clicked.
[20:13] <sigma> wubba: but u should use fat32 to be safe
[20:14] <sigma> artur_: where did u download skype from?
[20:14] <Lynoure> artur_: used to have that, but it was simply matter of having my mixer settings wrong.
[20:16] <Lynoure> artur_: for starters check you have record on for your microphone
[20:16] <artur_> sigma:first i've downloaded in the site, and later i found out a way by inserting a line in my source.list and after...apt-get.
[20:16] <artur_> Lynoure: i can hear my own voice. =/
[20:16] <Lynoure> artur_: from echo service?
[20:17] <arrrghhh> artur_: have you tried calling yourself?  or that test service?
[20:17] <arrrghhh> i think echo service is what i'm referring to.
[20:17] <Lynoure> artur_: that just means you have input on, not necessarily that you have record on.
[20:17] <Lynoure> artur_: http://www.skype.com/help/guides/soundsetup_linux.html has whole bunch of things you could try, but really, mixer settings are most often a culprit
[20:18] <artur_> Lynoure: no, i mean when a say something in the microphone my i can hear my own voice at the same time.
[20:18] <Lynoure> Ideally you don't want to hear your voice from your speakers
[20:18] <Lynoure> as that makes nasty echo easily, if both that and record are on.
[20:18] <arrrghhh> artur_: try to call the echo service.  and if you do ever get it working, having your voice play through the speakers might drive the other person nuts.
[20:18] <arrrghhh> lol yea.
[20:19] <vzduch> that's why I prefer using headphones when speaking on the mic
[20:19] <artur_> i know, it was just to test if my microphone was working
[20:20] <artur_> vzduch: i tried in this way...
[20:20] <arrrghhh> artur_: skype has a test service where you make a free call, and say something into the mic and the recording plays it back for you.  if you can't hear it, there's something wrong.
[20:20] <Bynw> in fact administrator mode doesnt seem to work in the network configuration area either. i am unable to edit information there such as the dns servers i waant to use.
[20:21] <artur_> arrrghhh: yes, it's what happens. I can't hear the message that i've recorded.
[20:21] <arrrghhh> Bynw: i've noticed that as well... i can't remember how i fixed it because i added a user before for my roommate.
[20:21] <arrrghhh> artur_: i'm betting Lynoure is right, kmix is probably configured incorrectly.
[20:23] <artur_> arrrghhh: so, any idea about what should be changed there?
[20:23] <Lynoure> hmm
[20:23] <Lynoure> artur_: I told you, and gave you the url... should I repeat? :)
[20:23] <arrrghhh> well, under the input tab is the mic muted?
[20:23] <artur_> Lynoure: hmmm, i'm sorry.
[20:23] <arrrghhh> i would check all of those volume controls.
[20:24] <Lynoure> artur_: mute mic, turn record on. you can experiment with capture record on or off
[20:25] <Lynoure> artur_: for graphical version of that, Skype's own howto has pics: http://www.skype.com/help/guides/soundsetup_linux.html (and other stuff that you should not worry about before ruling out mixer things)
[20:27] <wubba> What is the root password for kubuntu?
[20:27] <Thingus> !root > wubba
[20:27] <hydrogen> !r0ot
[20:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about r0ot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:28] <arrrghhh> lol
[20:29] <ubuntu> dangit, all my linux fears are starting to come true!
[20:29] <ubuntu> Evreything was goinf well
[20:30] <jussi01> ubuntu: and?
[20:30] <Lynoure> ubuntu: relax, tell us your problems.
[20:30] <markit> Hi, I've tried to install kde in kubuntu 8.04alpha, but there are a lot of dependencies problems, is it normal? a known bug?
[20:30] <ubuntu> I'm back on the live CD... I installed Kubuntu, and opted for the full drive option and when I rebooted (AND I AM SURE I PICKED THE CORRECT HD and Boot drive), it simply said: Error loading operating system!
[20:30] <artur_> Lynoure:i've already seen this site before, but the screenshots of the Kmix are different than my kmix. In the Input tab i have "Front Mic Boost" "Mic Boost" "Capture" "Capture" "Digital". And there's no green LED, there's only the red LED in the botton.
[20:30] <arrrghhh> markit: 8.04alpha is extremely unstable.
[20:31] <arrrghhh> ubuntu: make sure GRUB is looking at the right drive.  i've had to change it sometimes.
[20:31] <ubuntu> What the freak is "RUB"
[20:31] <ubuntu> *GRUB
[20:32] <Lynoure> artur_: what version of Kubuntu are you on?
[20:32] <arrrghhh> ubuntu, when your system boots, you see a boot menu right?
[20:32] <evjunior09> Is VirtualBox free?
[20:32] <arrrghhh> evjunior09: yes
[20:32] <evjunior09> okay thanks
[20:32] <ubuntu> 7.1, latest one from the official site
[20:32] <artur_> Lynoure: the last 7.10
[20:32] <Lynoure> arrrghhh: no, VirtualBox is not free as in open source
[20:32] <arrrghhh> ubuntu: that's not what i asked... after your mobo goes thru all the POST stuff, you should see "grub loading please wait"
[20:33] <arrrghhh> Lynoure: i thought he was asking free as in free beer.
[20:33] <Lynoure> arrrghhh: They don't even let you use it free as in beer for business
[20:33] <ubuntu> Can anyone pls help me?
[20:33] <arrrghhh> but for personal use it's completely free i thought.
[20:33] <Lynoure> oh, sorry, yes they do if you compile it :)
[20:33] <arrrghhh> ubuntu: i am... evidently  you don't want me to help you.
[20:34] <arrrghhh> ubuntu: i'm betting it's a simple change in the GRUB bootloader.
[20:34] <ubuntu> I want you to?
[20:34] <arrrghhh> lol that's a question?
[20:34] <ubuntu> How do I change it?
[20:34] <arrrghhh> ok, you get an error 17 right?  cannot mount parition?
[20:34] <artur_> Lynoure: in the 3rd tab there are 3 select buttons. Channel Mod (2ch that is the only possible option) and 2 input source(both with Front Mic)
[20:34] <artur_> but i could choose MIC..
[20:34] <Lynoure> artur_: that's peculiar. And it is kmix you opened?
[20:35] <wubba> !wireless
[20:35] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:36] <artur_> Lynoure: Yes. My sound is ALSA, and i'm in a Laptop.(if it helps...)
[20:36] <ubuntu> arghh... I can't Private chat with you, I am unregistered??
[20:36] <Lynoure> artur_: same as I... and same version of Kubuntu. You do have Line, CD, Mic etc in the Input tab?
[20:36] <arrrghhh> i dunno
[20:36] <ubuntu> Please help me in yhis channel
[20:36] <artur_> the most strange is that in a previous instalation, i wasn't with this problem
[20:37] <jussi01> !register
[20:37] <arrrghhh> ubuntu well answer my question... it's an error 17 unable to mount partition
[20:37] <ubuntu> no, it simply says: Error: unable to load OS
[20:37] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[20:37] <arrrghhh> ubuntu: it doesn't give you an error number?  do you have another machine to chat in this while you fix the problem?
[20:37] <artur_> Lynoure: and also Front Mic
[20:38] <ubuntu> No, not at all
[20:38] <artur_> Lynoure: 4 options.
[20:38] <arrrghhh> so did you just boot with the livecd?
[20:38] <ubuntu> yes
[20:38] <ubuntu> Now I am using LiveCD
[20:39] <arrrghhh> ubuntu: this will be exceedingly difficult to do, but you'll have to reboot.  then when you get the error hit any key.  it'll bring you to the GRUB menu.  press 'e'.  this will allow you to edit the lines.
[20:39] <Lynoure> artur_: Sorry, I have hard time figuring out our setting without seeing them. And I'm kind of wondering how come you would not have input and record options for those all.
[20:40] <ubuntu> i pressed many buttons, it didn't bring up any menu
[20:40] <artur_> when i'm with my headphone and i say something i can hear this in the ear phone, but it seens that SKYPE can't get a 'connection' with my sound system, specially the MIC, cause as i said, i can hear the woman's voice.
[20:40] <arrrghhh> ubuntu: should say "root (hd2,0)" - although those numbers might be different.  the first number is your hdd, and the second is the partition on that hdd.  usually what i found was it assigned it to hd2,0, and it should be (hd0,0)
[20:41] <wubba> Is 7.04 Fesity or Gutsy?
[20:41] <ubuntu> I'm sure at some stage I read (0,0,0)
[20:41] <wubba> !Fesity
[20:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fesity - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:41] <vzduch> wubba: Gutsy is 7.10.. now go figure ;)
[20:41] <wubba> ty
[20:42] <arrrghhh> should only be two numbers.  ubuntu there's a way to edit GRUB from your livecd.  you'll have to mount your hdd with ubuntu on it.  do you have multiple hdds?
[20:42] <ubuntu> yes, 3
[20:42] <ubuntu> (well then it said 0,0)
[20:42] <Lynoure> artur_: like I said before, getting sound recorded from input is separate from getting it to play. Perhaps you could show me a screenshot of your mixer input screen?
[20:43] <Lynoure> artur_: you can also try with audacity if you think skype itself is to blame
[20:43] <arrrghhh> you might want to disconnect any hdds that you're not using for the install.  i found that was easiest when i was starting out... now i know what GRUB is all about so i can fix it if i need to.
[20:43] <ubuntu> When I pressed install permanently, I saw an option for GRUB in 'advance options', but I was afraid to select it
[20:43] <ubuntu> what is GRUB?
[20:44] <arrrghhh> !grub
[20:44] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:44] <Bynw> i've rebooted to make sure that wasnt the problem. and i've check it out in other system settings. clicking on the administator mode, i do get prompted for my password but the adminstration buttons that should become useable dont. not in any section of the system settings
[20:45] <ubuntu> Ok, I am going to disconnect my other to HD's... then install again!
[20:45] <ubuntu> In the installation menu should I fiddle with the Grub settings?
[20:45] <arrrghhh> ubuntu: i found that was the easiest way for me, when i was starting out.
[20:45] <artur_> Lynoure: i'm gonna do this. just a minute
[20:46] <arrrghhh> ubuntu: no, for the most part grub does a good job.  for some reason it can get messed up with multiple hdds (especially if they mix intefaces, P-ATA, S-ATA, etc.)
[20:46] <arrrghhh> ubuntu: and with only one hdd installed, grub really has nothing to mess up.
[20:46] <ubuntu> Ok great, then I'm off
[20:46] <ubuntu> Any last minute advice?
[20:47] <ubuntu> I really don't want to go through all this nonsense again?
[20:47] <arrrghhh> may the open source force be with you.
[20:47] <ubuntu> damn, that wasn't a question, lol
[20:48] <jtt> is anyone here doing Voip with any plantronics headsets
[20:48] <arrrghhh> ubuntu: just take your time, make sure you read everything (especially if you don't understand...)
[20:48] <arrrghhh> ah well.
[20:50] <SatManUK> !grub
[20:50] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:51] <yadoy666> hallo
[20:52] <yadoy666> indonesia here
[20:52] <Lynoure> yadoy666: is there anything you need help with?
[20:52] <arrrghhh> lmao
[20:53] <SatManUK> guys im trying to install grub after having to reinstall linux and i always struggle im trying to follow the howto but im struggling..
[20:53] <arrrghhh> guess not.
[20:53] <arrrghhh> SatManUK: there's always supergrub.
[20:54] <SatManUK> whats supergrub?
[20:54] <arrrghhh> i don't mean to be a d!ck but google is your friend.
[20:55] <arrrghhh> well, maybe i do mean to be a d!ck, but you can't learn if i hand-feed ya.
[20:55] <SatManUK> im wating for the page to load
[20:55] <SatManUK> its 1am and christmas day .. break please..
[20:56] <arrrghhh> lol it's 1pm and christmas eve here.
[20:56] <arrrghhh> thanks kids, i'm out.
[20:57] <vzduch> West Coast.. yo mother****** :D
[20:57] <vzduch> scnr
[20:58] <SatManUK> why do i need to burn a grub cd..
[20:58] <SatManUK> can't i just install it from the live cd?
[20:59] <Lynoure> SatManUK: what were you trying to achieve, again?
[20:59] <SatManUK> repair of grub
[20:59] <vzduch> you don't need to burn a CD.. you can also write a floppy (if you still know what that is ;))
[20:59] <SatManUK> i dont have a drive..
[21:00] <SatManUK> ah the computer does but i dont have even 1 disk..
[21:00] <vzduch> Super Grub Disk is probably the easiest way to restore a Grub.. but definitely not the only way
[21:00] <SatManUK> where to get a blank floppy disk at 1am..
[21:00] <SatManUK> i will burn the iso..
[21:00] <vzduch> 1 a.m.?  where you at? o0
[21:00] <SatManUK> why can't they just write a simple install grub script into the live cd..
[21:00] <SatManUK> Tbilisi, Georgia..
[21:00] <SatManUK> Merry Christmas BTW..
[21:00] <jpatrick> vzduch: UK by the looks of it
[21:00] <SatManUK> im from uk
[21:01] <SatManUK> but living in Tbilisi, Georgia
[21:01] <jpatrick> ah
[21:01] <SatManUK> in uk its 9pm
[21:01] <jpatrick> I'm from the UK but living in Spain
[21:01] <SatManUK> well its cheaper here than spain..
[21:01] <whuffor> Sweden here
[21:01] <vzduch> Germany here
[21:01] <SatManUK> i been to malmo..
[21:01] <SatManUK> offtopic lol
[21:01] <whuffor> Me too. I prefer my own city of Stockholm :)
[21:01] <vzduch> trying to move to the Netherlands some time next year
[21:02] <SatManUK> lets focus on grub here and take the why here their etc to kubuntu-offtopic
[21:02] <SatManUK> does anybody the know the step by steps for grub itself?
[21:02] <SatManUK> i tried chroot /sda1
[21:02] <SatManUK> i mounted /dev/sda2 into /sda1
[21:03] <SatManUK> i tried sudo grub-install /dev/sda but it says its not a valid block device
[21:04] <vzduch> tried /dev/sda1 instead?
[21:05] <vzduch> should work as well if it's not on an extended partition
[21:05] <vzduch> (well, disregard that, logical mistake on my part)
[21:05] <vzduch> sda1 cannot be on an extended partition
[21:05] <NeoFax> G'Day everyone!
[21:11] <jhutchins> vzduch: Why not?
[21:11] <vzduch> jhutchins: it can be an extended partition itself, but everything that's on this extended partition starts w/ sdX5
[21:12] <jhutchins> k, that's what I thought.
[21:12] <jhutchins> vzduch: Of course, linux allows more than four primary partitions.
[21:12] <vzduch> never heard of that
[21:13] <jhutchins> Strictly a DOS limitation.
[21:19] <lordofthepigs> is there anyway to get the current screen orientation, to use with xrandr?
[21:19] <lordofthepigs> like whether it currently is normal, left, inverted or right?
[21:20] <NeoFax> lordofthepigs: I think xdpyinfo does state the resolotion.  If not, kcontrol does
[21:24] <purpleposeidon> lordofthepigs: Just calling xrandr without any arguments should display the current orientation.
[21:24] <jhutchins> lordofthepigs: Under configure display, there's "Orientation".  All greyed out on mine.
[21:28] <lordofthepigs> purpleposeidon: hmm... it doesn't display the current orientation
[21:29] <purpleposeidon> Well, mine says "Current rotation - normal"
[21:29] <lordofthepigs> really?
[21:30] <lordofthepigs> mine says "Screen 0: minimum 320x200, current 1024x600, maximum 1024x1024" and all sorts of additional infos
[21:33] <lordofthepigs> purpleposeidon: Actually, what I would want is a script that would rotate the screen 90° every time it is called
[21:35] <jhutchins> lordofthepigs: You're not running 4 are you?
[21:35] <purpleposeidon> lordofthepigs: if xrandr doesn't say in the output, I don't know. :P
[21:35] <lordofthepigs> jhutchins: sorry?
[21:36] <TheFuzzball> Does anyone know what embeded plugin can play .divx files in Konqueror?
[21:37] <lordofthepigs> jhutchins: What do you mean exactly?
[21:40] <Cannoli> how do i get permanent root access in terminal for this session?
[21:41] <vzduch> huh?
[21:41] <NeoFax> Cannoli: Sudo su -
[21:41] <vzduch> ah
[21:42] <jhutchins> lordofthepigs: I mean are you asking about kde4 or kde 3.5?
[21:42] <jhutchins> !info krandrtray
[21:42] <ubotu> Package krandrtray does not exist in gutsy
[21:43] <lordofthepigs> hmm, I just found out that I can get the information with xrandr --verbose
[21:43] <lordofthepigs> then grep to the line of my display
[21:43] <Cannoli> ty
[21:43] <jhutchins> !info krandr
[21:43] <ubotu> Package krandr does not exist in gutsy
[21:43] <TheFuzzball> !divx
[21:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:43] <jhutchins> maybe it's part of kdetools or something.
[21:52] <bynw> ok i was having difficulty with the administration mode not working in the system settings. i've reinstalled kubuntu and it works. however i think i know what caused the problem. there are updates available in adept, so if i install these updates it may not work properly again. what am i doing incorrectly?
[21:53] <nick-3334> how do I install libdvdread?
[21:53] <vzduch> sudo apt-get install libdvdread
[21:54] <vzduch> :P
[21:54] <ardchoille> nick-3334: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[21:55] <ardchoille> nick-3334: apt-cache search libdvdread  :)
[21:55] <bynw> i'm gonna go apply the updates again and see if i loose the ability too get into administration mode
[21:59] <nick-3334> how do I install dvd-css
[22:00] <vzduch> sudo apt-get install libdvdcss
[22:00] <vzduch> :P
[22:00] <ardchoille> vzduch: It's not in the repos. Neither is libdvdread
[22:00] <ardchoille> !medibuntu | nick-3334
[22:00] <ubotu> nick-3334: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[22:00] <nick-3334> !medibuntu
[22:00] <vzduch> ardchoille: isn't that a repo? :D
[22:03] <ardchoille> vzduch: Yes, but he has to add that repo to be able to use it, it's not an official repo.
[22:05] <ubuntu_> hello
[22:08] <wubba> How can I stop Xwindows so I can install some Nvidia drivers?
[22:09] <vzduch> wubba: install a kernel module
[22:09] <wubba> vzducH: I just want to exit out of xwindows
[22:09] <vzduch> no need to stop X for that, only requires a reboot when you're finished
[22:10] <ardchoille> wubba: cltr+alt+f2, type in "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" (without quotes)
[22:10] <wubba> The nvidia file comes up and says that I can't install when X is running
[22:10] <ardchoille> vzduch: Installing the nvidia drivers does not require a reboot
[22:10] <wubba> How do you get back to xwindows then?
[22:11] <vzduch> ardchoille: strictly spoken it doesn't, right.. but afaik it's recommended to reboot after installing a kmod
[22:11] <ardchoille> wubba: After the nvidia driver is installed, type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start" and you should be sent back to tty7
[22:11] <ardchoille> vzduch: Wrong again
[22:11] <ardchoille> !nvidia | wubba
[22:11] <ubotu> wubba: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:13] <haskear> hello, can anyone help me stop my screen fading to black? its not the screensaver or powersaving. Im at my wits end with it
[22:13] <wubba> When I go out to F2 it ask for a username/password - I am using Linuxmce
[22:14] <ardchoille> wubba: Did you read the nvidia wiki page first?
[22:15] <wubba> What I read was to do an sh then the file name - which I did - and it comes up and says you can't run it in X
[22:15] <ardchoille> wubba: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:17] <wubba> I don't have Administration under System
[22:17] <wiehan> what do I type to register my nick?
[22:17] <ardchoille> !register | wiehan
[22:17] <ubotu> wiehan: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[22:17] <ardchoille> wubba: Why not?
[22:17] <wiehan> !register | Wiehan
[22:18] <Linux_Galore> wubba: just edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file look for the Driver "nvidia" line and change it to "nv" save then sudo halt
[22:18] <ardchoille> Linux_Galore: From what he has posted, he doesn't have nvidia installed yet
[22:18] <wiehan> that quite obviously didn't work
[22:18] <wubba> ard: Not sure why not
[22:19] <wubba> I'm running Linuxmce - maybe?
[22:19] <Linux_Galore> ardchoille: thought he has the normal kernel update nvidia driver breaking problem
[22:19] <ardchoille> wiehan: Did you read the webpage ubotu posted to you?
[22:19] <wiehan> nah
[22:19] <wiehan> Easier to get the quick how-to from the pro's in this channel ;-)