[00:00] <Daisuke-Ido> DaSkreech: he said work, not annoy
[00:00] <Minataku> NeXT... barf
[00:00] <fignew> OMG YUO USE TEH WINDOZE
[00:00] <Dragnslcr> jmichaelx- I would think that a generic USB adapter would work with the included drivers
[00:00] <DaSkreech> fignew: I think that he's past that OS
[00:00] <oriongaby> hello
[00:00] <Minataku> He's not
[00:00] <Minataku> He turned it into Mac OSX
[00:00] <oriongaby> anybody klnnows were to get Aquamarine?
[00:00] <DaSkreech> Yeah but you don't see him trying to sell neXT do you?
[00:00] <Minataku> I do
[00:00] <Minataku> It's called "Mac OSX" now
[00:00] <Daisuke-Ido> when i say past ubuntu, i mean past the handholding, past the everything precompiled to defaults, etc
[00:00] <Daisuke-Ido> gentoo :D
[00:01] <fignew> Daisuke-Ido: and what does that allow you to do?
[00:01] <Minataku> DaSkreech: Even the calls in OSX are still prefixed "ns_"
[00:01] <Daisuke-Ido> NeXT with a mach kernel and BSD userspace tools?
[00:01] <Minataku> NeXT always had a Mach kernel
[00:01] <Daisuke-Ido> fignew: optimize, optimize, optimize.
[00:01] <Daisuke-Ido> ah
[00:01] <oriongaby> anybody klnnows were to get Aquamarine?
[00:01] <jmichaelx> Dragnslcr: actually i have no idea what would qualify as a generic usb adapter.... i have an rt2500 based usb adaptor (which is hard to get working in gutsy) and am rt73? usn adaptor that would probably only work with ndiswrapper
[00:02] <Daisuke-Ido> !aquamarine
[00:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aquamarine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:02] <jmichaelx> usb*
[00:02] <Minataku> It had it's own userspace tools, either that or they were stolen from 4.3BSD
[00:02] <Daisuke-Ido> !info aquamarine
[00:02] <ubotu> Package aquamarine does not exist in gutsy
[00:02] <Minataku> Now they're stolen from FreeBSD instead
[00:02] <DaSkreech> oriongaby: What do you mean?
[00:02] <fignew> Daisuke-Ido: what's to gain?
[00:02] <Daisuke-Ido> oriongaby: no.
[00:02] <Minataku> And the UI is iglier and even more useless
[00:02] <Daisuke-Ido> fignew: speed, for onw
[00:02] <Daisuke-Ido> one*
[00:02] <Minataku> I've used NeXTSTEP. It's horrible.
[00:02] <oriongaby> aquamarine theme manager
[00:02] <fignew> lol!
[00:02] <Daisuke-Ido> !info compiz-kde-decorator
[00:02] <ubotu> Package compiz-kde-decorator does not exist in gutsy
[00:03] <stdin> oriongaby: it was used for beryl, but the compiz-kde package places it
[00:03] <Minataku> I've used it on a SPARC, no less
[00:03] <Daisuke-Ido> there we go
[00:03] <hcbox_> Hi all, got a little problem that just happend, was transfering datas on a ntfs disk ... got a freeze on my computer ... and lost the whole target directory .. i can see it with konsole  but i can access it
[00:03] <oriongaby> kk
[00:03] <Minataku> Not some lame PC version
[00:03] <oriongaby> thx
[00:03] <Minataku> hcbox_: Perhaps see if Windows can fix it?
[00:03] <Minataku> Probably not, though
[00:04] <Minataku> I'm sure Windows probably would have wrecked it in the first place anyway
[00:04] <Daisuke-Ido> i am so tempted to make a comment about using ntfs in linux to begin with...
[00:04] <Daisuke-Ido> oh, i just did
[00:04] <hcbox_> i pluged my harddrive on windows
[00:04] <Minataku> "I'm Windows, I'm better than Linux, I'll ruin YOUR WHOLE DISK INSTEAD OF JUST ONE DIRECTORY LIKE LINUX DOES! SEE? BETTER!"
[00:04] <Dragnslcr> jmichaelx- I've never actually tried using a USB adapter, but I would think a store-brand one would work. Something from Netgear or Linksys probably would too
[00:04] <Minataku> :P
[00:04] <Minataku> Sorry. I've become bored.
[00:04] <Minataku> lol
[00:04] <fignew> Minataku: please.
[00:04] <jmichaelx> drag
[00:04] <jmichaelx> oops
[00:05] <stdin> Minataku: please behave in here
[00:05] <hcbox_> Minataku: i'm on linux but its and extern hard drive and i dont choose what system my friends uses and windows have crappy compatibility with hdd
[00:05] <DaSkreech> !tab | jmichaelx
[00:05] <ubotu> jmichaelx: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[00:05] <jmichaelx> Dragnslcr: getting wireless, particularly usb wireless, is way more problematic in linux than you may be aware
[00:05] <DaSkreech> hcbox_: install ntfs tools and run a scan on it?
[00:05] <Minataku> Oh, suddenly the crap I say every night is "misbehaving" because I got mad at a rule
[00:05] <Daisuke-Ido> jmichaelx: xbox 360 wireless adapter
[00:05] <DaSkreech> Yeah hardware working perfectly is still a linux hurdle
[00:06] <hcbox_> DaSkreech: gonna try it
[00:06] <jmichaelx> DaSkreech: i know about tab, but i hit reurn instaed of tab accidentally :-P
[00:06] <Daisuke-Ido> YOUR wired connection to its access point, which then goes to wireless :)
[00:06] <Dragnslcr> jmichaelx- I'm not talking about a USB wireless adapter. I meant a USB wired adapter
[00:06] <sailor> does anyone know how i can get adept-manager to stop crashing when i "fetch updates" ?
[00:06] <DaSkreech> one of the last three realms of Linux suckiness
[00:06] <Daisuke-Ido> DaSkreech: what are the others?
[00:06] <DaSkreech> jmichaelx: I knwo I was messing with ya :)
[00:06] <Daisuke-Ido> i imagine cohesiveness
[00:06] <DaSkreech> Games and subcultures
[00:06] <jmichaelx> Dragnslcr: ahh, i misunderstood you! i had not thought of that
[00:06] <DaSkreech> Or corner markets
[00:06] <hcbox_> DaSkreech: somtething like package nftsprogs
[00:06] <DaSkreech> which ever you want to see it as
[00:07] <DaSkreech> hcbox_: Right I think tthat's it
[00:07] <DaSkreech> sailor: fix your repos list ?
[00:07] <Daisuke-Ido> i should go try and get the remote working in geexbox
[00:07] <sailor> DaSkreech: I have removed my repos list and created a new one, still the same problem :/
[00:07] <Daisuke-Ido> working in the livecd
[00:07] <DaSkreech> hmm
[00:08] <Daisuke-Ido> so i just have to copy the lircd.conf over
[00:08] <DaSkreech> does apt-get update work on teh command line?
[00:08] <jmichaelx> it's funny, i bought a pcmcia ethernet adapter today at best buy for $5.99 on clearance hoping it would work under linux, but it doesn't
[00:08] <Daisuke-Ido> DaSkreech: yeah
[00:08] <DaSkreech> !hardware | jmichaelx
[00:08] <ubotu> jmichaelx: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[00:08] <sailor> DaSkreech: yeah no problems
[00:09] <fignew> jmichaelx: what does lspcmcia say?
[00:09] <jmichaelx> i also bought a pcmcia wireless adapter today at be$tbuy.... for $6.99, and it turned out to be atheros, which is awesome
[00:09] <jmichaelx> fignew: actually, i just used lspci.... no wnder it did not show up
[00:09] <fignew> :)
[00:10] <sailor> DaSkreech: My sources.list file: http://pastebin.com/d6d64860d
[00:10] <jmichaelx> fignew: ok, lemme reboot and see what lspcmcia tells me.... i do know that the lights did not come on...  i tried to use it with mepis antix, and with the debian netinstall cd
[00:10] <Minataku> Sorry all for getting a bit out of hand
[00:11] <Daisuke-Ido> jmichaelx: getting a good deal on working hardware is hardly a reason to use the dollar sign in the store's name.  it's petty and childish, and almost as annoying as when people do the same for microsoft
[00:11] <fignew> ok
[00:11] <jmichaelx> Daisuke-Ido: i have had issues with bestbuy, sorry for the offense
[00:11] <DaSkreech> sailor: run adept from the command line and see if it thrws a message when it crashes
[00:12] <fignew> Daisuke-Ido: He can write however he pleases
[00:12] <Daisuke-Ido> i'm not personally offended, but if you've had issues, why did you go back anyway?
[00:12] <fignew> perhaps it's the only tech store in his area?
[00:12] <jmichaelx> Daisuke-Ido: lack of choices, partly, and to see what clearance stuff they had
[00:12] <Daisuke-Ido> partly
[00:12] <hcbox_> DaSkreech: ntfsfix doesnt solve anything, my directory is still missing another idea ?
[00:12] <stdin> Daisuke-Ido, fignew: please keep on topic
[00:13] <jmichaelx> anyways , it's be$tbuy to me....
[00:13] <jmichaelx> brb
[00:13] <fignew> stdin: I was keeping on the topic that Daisuke-Ido started ;)
[00:13] <DaSkreech> hcbox_: were you moving it or copying?
[00:14] <stdin> we have a whole channel for general chat, but no one ever uses it :p
[00:14] <DaSkreech> really? what is this mythical channel stdin ?
[00:14] <hcbox_> copying some files in the directory, and the whole directory disapear not only the files being copied
[00:15] <sailor> DaSkreech: from command line: http://pastebin.com/m443452ba
[00:15] <jmichaelx> stdin: you know what, i have been scolded for discussing OT topics twice in #ubuntu-offtopic , or whatever it is called lol
[00:15] <stdin> DaSkreech: it's #ubuntu+kde-gnome-offtopic :)
[00:15] <ben_> im gutted my pc is dieing
[00:15] <ben_> can anyone help?
[00:15] <ben_> please
[00:15] <DaSkreech> !anyone | ben_
[00:15] <ubotu> ben_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[00:16] <ben_> well its a swear word in here but i dual boot use linux mostly but windows for games my windows says its missing hall.dll
[00:16] <ben_> is this terminal?
[00:17] <DaSkreech> ben_: So Windows is dying?
[00:17] <stdin> that's a windows issue, so it's best to ask that in ##windows as more people know about windows in there than do in here
[00:17] <ben_> ok thanks
[00:18] <carelesslies> dying would be a an exageration, but declining . . .
[00:18] <ben_> well it wont boot
[00:18] <ben_> so at the min id say that was pretty terminal
[00:18] <DaSkreech> That;s normal for me
[00:21] <DaSkreech> stdin: does the pastebin for adept make any sense to you?
[00:21] <stdin> DaSkreech: it just says it's crashing, but doesn't give an indication why
[00:22] <DaSkreech> stdin: what's the warning beside kdecore ?
[00:22] <stdin> DaSkreech: that just says it's connecting to a pty device (normal behaviour for adept)
[00:23] <jmichaelx> ok, i ran lspcmcia on this machine, and the only output i got was [yenta_cardbus]etc,etc... it does not appear to see the ethernet adaptor
[00:23] <DaSkreech> sailor: try purge adept and reinstall?
[00:26] <munk_> i have an aspire 5610 and im trying to make my  $ and euro sign buttons work and i have it all working except the startup script which instead of running the script opens the file with Kate...HELP?
[00:27] <DaSkreech> munk_: is it executable?
[00:27] <munk_> DaSkreech how do i find that ?!
[00:28] <DaSkreech> munk_: right click and look at permissions. If executable is un checked then check it
[00:28] <Dragnslcr> munk_- and does it have an interpreter line at the top of the file (e.g. #!/bin/bash)
[00:29] <munk_> Dragnslcr yes it does
[00:29] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, make sure it's executable then
[00:29] <munk_> DaSkreech no its not how do i activate that i cant edit that
[00:31] <DaSkreech> munk_: who owns it?
[00:31] <munk_> DaSkreech, root
[00:32] <hcbox_> DaSkreech: FUSE mount point creation failed > its worse :)
[00:32] <DaSkreech> hcbox_: have a Windows box?
[00:32] <hcbox_> DaSkreech: yeah just plug it on windows
[00:33] <munk_> DaSkreech, how do i make it executable?!
[00:33] <moofoo> are there beta4 or even more recent snapshot builds of kde4 for gutsy?
[00:33] <DaSkreech> munk_: kdesu dolphin and do the premissions check again
[00:33] <hcbox_> DaSkreech: i plugged it, reboot, disconnect safely and i got FUSE mount point creation failed back on ubuntu
[00:34] <DaSkreech> hcbox_: ntfstools can set the drive to force a check next time Windows sees it  make it do that
[00:34] <stdin> moofoo: I'm checking if they build in gutsy now, (kdelibs 91%)
[00:34] <Dragnslcr> moofoo- topic
[00:34] <hcbox_> its with netfix, i tried but nothing happend on windows box when rebooting
[00:35] <moofoo> Dragnslcr: slap me :P
[00:35] <stdin> hopefully we'll have 3.96.0 in a few days...
[00:35] <munk_> DaSkreech, it doesnt work:-<
[00:36] <Dragnslcr> moofoo- heh, I wouldn't have noticed if your asking hadn't reminded me that I wanted to see if beta4 was packaged yet
[00:37] <DaSkreech> munk_: afraid of the command line?
[00:38] <munk_> DaSkreech, no..
[00:38] <DaSkreech> munk_: sudo chmod + x /path/to/file
[00:39] <moofoo> will this be the beta4 or a more recent snapshot? (like some krash-weekends-later ;-)
[00:39] <munk_> DaSkreech, done...
[00:39] <DaSkreech> moofoo: probably the release after Beta4
[00:40] <DaSkreech> munk_: executable now ?
[00:40] <moofoo> nice
[00:40] <munk_> DaSkreech, yes, so everytime i want to add something to Autostart i have to do chmod +x?
[00:40] <DaSkreech> munk_: that would be correct
[00:41] <DaSkreech> if it is not executable then it cannot execute!
[00:41] <munk_> DaSkreech, thank you very much ill probably be back because im trying to get my system in close to perfect condition
[00:41] <munk_> thanks thats good to know...i owe u again..:p
[00:42] <DaSkreech> munk_: anytime. come on back you hear?
[00:47] <hcbox_> DaSkreech: made a chkdsk on windows and have the same problem Fuse mount point failed //
[00:47] <DaSkreech> wat
[00:47] <DaSkreech>  Windows says Fuse failed?
[00:47] <hcbox_> nop, when i connect it on ubuntu
[00:48] <DaSkreech> ah
[00:48] <hcbox_> on windows my directory is always here ... but in ubuntu the mount point disapear and i cant mount my disk
[00:48] <DaSkreech> windows sees the disk fine?
[00:48] <hcbox_> sure
[00:48] <INIT_6> This is just wired, using kubuntu 7.1 Have geforce 2 ultra 128mb I enabled the Restricted drivers. It worked perfect. I even rebooted a couple times for other things. now it's broken. I looked through the LOG file no errors. I switch the driver in the xorg.conf file back to nv. and loads. I don't know what changed only thing was a few updates. any help?
[00:48] <DaSkreech> Just not the dir?
[00:49] <hcbox_> in fact my mount point was HD and the rep was HD_DVD ...
[00:49] <hcbox_> now the problem is not the HD_DVD directory but the HD mount point
[00:49] <hcbox_> annot remove `HD': Is a directory
[00:49] <hcbox_> hcbox@hcbox-desktop:/media$ sudo rmdir HD
[00:49] <hcbox_> rmdir: HD: Device or resource busy
[00:50] <Admiral_Chicago> hcbox_: its mounted and being read
[00:50] <DaSkreech> lsof it
[00:52] <hcbox_> Admiral_Chicago: u were right, and its the solution i umount the HD point and it appear in dolphin ...i can now mount my HDD with the fully directory DVD_HD
[00:52] <hcbox_> works fine thanks to DaSkreech & Admiral_Chicago... my breathe is now normal =) very happy
[00:53] <Admiral_Chicago> you're welcome
[00:53] <Admiral_Chicago> hiya DaSkreech :D
[00:53] <DaSkreech> hcbox_: I was confuzzled as to the problem sorry for taking so long :)
[00:53] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: !! :)
[00:54] <stdin> ...
[00:54] <stdin> !away > blendtux-away
[00:54] <hcbox_> No problem guys i learned a new trick today, ntfsfix & umount a point ;) everyday learning with linux ;)
[00:54] <DaSkreech> hcbox_: Oh yeah always unmount points when you are done before removing the mount point
[00:55] <blendtux-away> i just changed my nick stdin
[00:55] <DaSkreech> The system will be confused if you want to remove the mount point or everything on the file system that was mounted
[00:55] <blendtux-away> if i changed it to blool nobody would say anything stdin
[00:56] <stdin> blendtux-away: changing nick on away or  to show you're away is against the ubuntu-irc policy, that's why I got ubotu to pm you
[01:02] <ctk> what program do I use to make a DVD of pictures? for playback on a standalone DVD player
[01:03] <DaSkreech> k3b?
[01:03] <DaSkreech> I would guess
[01:03] <ctk> just a data cd, I guess? will it play?
[01:04] <DaSkreech> dunno never tried
[01:05] <ctk> Well like to set transition time and stuff. I guess I could just make a screencast of a powerpoint and burn it as a video cd or somethi8ng...
[01:06] <ctk> k, thanks
[01:07] <Beowulf> !kcc
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kcc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <Beowulf> !info kcc
[01:07] <ubotu> kcc: Kanji code filter. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.3-12 (gutsy), package size 15 kB, installed size 88 kB
[01:08] <Beowulf> hmm
[01:08] <Beowulf> What do you need to compile stuff in kde?
[01:09] <Beowulf> ???
[01:10] <stdin> to compile kde apps or general stuff?
[01:10] <Beowulf> yea
[01:10] <stdin> install build-essential and kde-devel
[01:11] <DaSkreech> !b-e | Beowulf
[01:11] <ubotu> Beowulf: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:11] <sailor> :( ive even tried uninstalling / re-installing adept-manager and its deps, but it still crash's when i "fetch updates" any other suggestions guys?
[01:12] <Beowulf> are the sources for the updates right?
[01:12] <DaSkreech> sailor: you purged?
[01:12] <sailor> sudo apt-get autoclean ?
[01:12] <sailor> yep
[01:12] <DaSkreech> sailor: huh? no
[01:12] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get remove adept -- purge
[01:12] <sailor> oh right
[01:12] <sailor> hang on
[01:12] <sailor> ill do it now
[01:14] <sailor> DaSkreech: yeah i purged, then installed again and still the same :(
[01:15] <sailor> DaSkreech: i just removed sources.list file so adept-manager would use absolute minimum and it still does it.
[01:15] <DaSkreech> sailor: You removed the sources list?
[01:15] <Beowulf> this install is gonna take a while isnt it?
[01:15] <sailor> damn driving me nuts! all i want to do is click "fetch updates" so then i can do the dist upgrade.
[01:16] <sailor> DaSkreech: yeah i can put it back again, or create a new one, which i have already tried.
[01:16] <DaSkreech> !easysource
[01:16] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:16] <DaSkreech> try that ^^
[01:16] <DaSkreech>  but I think the issue is adept
[01:16] <sailor> DaSkreech:  ok
[01:16] <sailor> DaSkreech: yeah :/
[01:21] <medion> hello
[01:21] <tekteen> hi
[01:21] <sailor> DaSkreech: ok ive done that and still no dice :( what else can i try?
[01:21] <tekteen> sFEARs: do u have a question?
[01:22] <sFEARs> when i try to get a web page in konqueror i get
[01:22] <sFEARs> An error occurred while loading http://www.google.com:
[01:22] <sFEARs> Could not connect to host http://www.google.com/.
[01:22] <sn00zer> when installing window$ in virtualbox do you still need to activate? i still dual boot with this copy and don't want to screw up the actual install
[01:22] <tekteen> u do not have internet?
[01:22] <sFEARs> worked for a little while... then i lost my wireless connection for a minute.. tried to load google.. got that error, connection came back on but i still have that error in konqueror
[01:23] <tekteen> sFEARs: try to restart
[01:23] <sFEARs> i'm connected right now but get that error in konqueror.. firefox works fine
[01:23] <sFEARs> tried that
[01:23] <tekteen> ok
[01:23] <tekteen> have u checked proxy settings
[01:23] <sFEARs> and that's any web page.. not just google
[01:23] <sFEARs> yeah.. no proxies set
[01:24] <Beowulf> hmmm
[01:24] <Beowulf> !start
[01:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:24] <Beowulf> !info start
[01:24] <ubotu> Package start does not exist in gutsy
[01:24] <sFEARs> i even apt-get remove konquror and reinstalled.. didn't help
[01:24] <tekteen> ok
[01:24] <sFEARs> i havn't tried logging in as another user
[01:24] <Beowulf> Anyone know of a fun package whose source i can get?
[01:24] <sFEARs> that's would exactally help my current situation though
[01:25] <tekteen> I do not know the problem.
[01:25] <tekteen> sorry
[01:25] <sFEARs> i can't connect by IP either
[01:25] <sFEARs> lame
[01:26] <tekteen> sFEARs: does it matter?
[01:26] <sFEARs> i'd like to have it working
[01:26] <tekteen> sFEARs: u can use firefox
[01:26] <tekteen> ok
[01:26] <tekteen> sorry
[01:26] <sFEARs> firefox doesn't browse the filesystem right
[01:26] <sFEARs> i like to jump back and forth
[01:26] <tekteen> ok
[01:26] <Beowulf> tekteen: know of a random good package whose source I could download?
[01:27] <tekteen> beowulf: java6
[01:27] <Beowulf> nah
[01:27] <tekteen> why
[01:27] <Beowulf> something more fun
[01:27] <tekteen> why
[01:27] <Beowulf> Wanna test my compiling thing
[01:27] <Beowulf> I just fixed it
[01:27] <Beowulf> I think
[01:27] <tekteen> firefox?
[01:28] <Beowulf> got it already
[01:28] <tekteen> wine?
[01:28] <Beowulf> got it
[01:28] <tekteen> compiz?
[01:28] <Beowulf> hmm
[01:28] <Beowulf> ok
[01:29] <Beowulf> Where do i get it?
[01:29] <tekteen> hold on
[01:29] <tekteen> sudo apt-get source compiz
[01:30] <tekteen> this will get the ubuntu source package
[01:33] <Beowulf> !paste
[01:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:34] <Beowulf> tekteen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45180/
[01:34] <Beowulf> !paste Beowulf
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste beowulf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <Beowulf> ...
[01:34] <tekteen> !paste| Beowulf
[01:34] <ubotu> Beowulf: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:35] <Beowulf> I see
[01:35] <Beowulf> tekteen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45180/
[01:35] <Beowulf> !paste| Beowulf
[01:35] <Beowulf> help?
[01:36] <tekteen> u r missing dependencies.
[01:36] <Beowulf> which are?
[01:36] <tekteen> one sec
[01:37] <tekteen> currently u r only missing the package "libstartup-notification0"
[01:37] <tekteen> but it will ask for u to install more
[01:37] <Beowulf> oh joy
[01:37] <tekteen> try something else like clam
[01:38] <Beowulf> libstartup-notification0 is already the newest version.
[01:38] <tekteen> u can get it from there site
[01:38] <tekteen> their*
[01:38] <NickPresta> Beowulf, what seems to be your problem?
[01:38] <sanzanric> help! recently i made a new user account and i moved over my documents and music from my old account but now i can only read the folders,  i can't write to them. How can i fix this?
[01:38] <Beowulf> trying out my source compiling
[01:38] <Beowulf> just fixed it a minute ago
[01:38] <Beowulf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45180/
[01:38] <NickPresta> sanzanric, chmod/chgrp the files to your username
[01:38] <Beowulf> then it gave me that while trying to install compiz
[01:39] <NickPresta> Beowulf, have you installed libstatup-notification-1.0?
[01:39] <Beowulf> HMMM
[01:39] <sanzanric> NickPresta, how would i do that exactly?
[01:39] <NickPresta> Beowulf, you need the -dev package. libstartup-notification0-dev
[01:39] <tekteen> sanzanric: open up a konsole
[01:39] <Beowulf> E: Couldn't find package libstartup-notification-1.0
[01:40] <ardchoille> !info libstartup-notification-1.0
[01:40] <ubotu> Package libstartup-notification-1.0 does not exist in gutsy
[01:40] <sanzanric> tekteen, right
[01:40] <NickPresta> sanzanric, I believe something like: `sudo chgrp USERNAME /home/USERNAME` where USERNAME is your username. Replace chgrp with chmod and you're done. That should do it.
[01:40] <tekteen> sanzanric: then type "chown -R USER.GROUP FILE"
[01:40] <Beowulf> !info libstartup-notification0
[01:40] <ubotu> libstartup-notification0: library for program launch feedback (shared library). In component main, is optional. Version 0.9-1 (gutsy), package size 20 kB, installed size 92 kB
[01:40] <NickPresta> !find libstartup-notification-1.0
[01:41] <Beowulf> nvm
[01:41] <Beowulf> I got it
[01:41] <tekteen> or folder
[01:41] <sFEARs> anyone know how to install multiple distrobutions
[01:41] <ubotu> Package/file libstartup-notification-1.0 does not exist in gutsy
[01:41] <sFEARs> i have all the files copied over to a separate partition, but i'm not sure how to do the whole kernel thing
[01:41] <Beowulf> it's compiling again
[01:41] <sFEARs> so that it boots correctally
[01:41] <tekteen> sFEARs: it is in grub
[01:42] <NickPresta> sFEARs, which files have been copied? /home?
[01:42] <sFEARs> i've edited the boot/grub/menu.lst file
[01:42] <tekteen> sFEARs: does you comp. still boot?
[01:42] <Beowulf> oh boy
[01:42] <NickPresta> Beowulf, ?
[01:42] <Beowulf> more missing dependencies...
[01:42] <Beowulf> installing gconf now
[01:42] <sanzanric> Nick, the program stated: chgrp: invalid group 'myusername'
[01:43] <NickPresta> Beowulf, which are they?  You must install the dependencies yourself :)
[01:43] <sFEARs> i can get into windows & kubuntu fine, and i have the /bin /usr/ sbin /lib.. all the folders copied
[01:43] <Beowulf> nick: I know that, I just hate doing it
[01:43] <sFEARs> but i'm not sure how to get grub to poing to that distrobution
[01:43] <NickPresta> sanzanric, what is your new username?
[01:43] <sFEARs> i think i might have to compile a kernel... any ideas?
[01:43] <NickPresta> Beowulf, what's wrong with the version of Compiz in the repos?
[01:44] <Beowulf> I wanted to compile
[01:44] <tekteen> Beowulf: do a easier project like clamav <http://clamav.net>
[01:44] <Beowulf> I just wanted to make sure my source compiling works
[01:44] <Beowulf> last time it said i lacked the neccessary kde components
[01:44] <tekteen> sFEARs: Paste your menu.lst file
[01:44] <sanzanric> Nick, its my name
[01:44] <sFEARs> in grub my kubuntu boot option has the 2.6.15 kernel or whatever listed in there.. so i copied that kernel over to the /lib/modules folder where i thought it needed to be, but it still didn't work
[01:44] <NickPresta> sanzanric, then you replace USERNAME with sanzanric
[01:45] <Beowulf> !info clamav
[01:45] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.91.2-3ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 856 kB, installed size 1284 kB
[01:45] <sanzanric> yes that is what i did.
[01:45] <tekteen> !paste | sFEARs
[01:45] <ubotu> sFEARs: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:45] <tekteen> sFEARs: paste the file
[01:45] <Beowulf> nick: said it couldnt find gconf-2.0
[01:46] <Beowulf> needs gconf2?
[01:46] <Beowulf> !info gconf2
[01:46] <ubotu> gconf2: GNOME configuration database system (support tools). In component main, is optional. Version 2.20.0-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 134 kB, installed size 284 kB
[01:46] <NickPresta> Beowulf, you need the -dev packages
[01:46] <sFEARs> are there some distros that can only use lilo to boot?
[01:46] <Beowulf> damnit
[01:46] <tekteen> sFEARs: paste your menu.list file
[01:47] <tekteen> sFEARs: u can not be helped till we see it
[01:47] <sFEARs> hold on
[01:47] <sFEARs> i'm working on it
[01:48] <shaffy> can anyone tell me of an audio-cd ripping program?  i want to make mp3s from a cd.
[01:48] <tekteen> shaffy: in a konsole type "sudo apt-get install lame"
[01:48] <Beowulf> Nick: it says there is no gconf-dev
[01:49] <NickPresta> shaffy, I like `abcde`
[01:49] <Beowulf> And it still says I'm missing gconf-2.0
[01:49] <Beowulf> Nick: ^
[01:49] <NickPresta> Beowulf, libgconf2-dev
[01:50] <Beowulf> oh
[01:50] <tekteen> shaffy: Then open up konqueror and go to the url <audiocd:/>
[01:50] <tekteen> then copy the "MP3" folder to another folder
[01:50] <init6> does anyone know why my kubuntu in adept manager says I can upgrade to 7.1 when I am already on 7.1 I installed it off a CD.
[01:50] <tekteen> it will auto rip and convert to mp3
[01:51] <NickPresta> !upgradebug
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upgradebug - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <NickPresta> init6, I believe it's a known bug. I would just ignore it
[01:51] <init6> I would but I think it's making it so I can't update my other packages or get the correct list of packages to upgrade
[01:51] <tekteen> shaffy: u still there?
[01:51] <shaffy> thanks tekteen and NickPresta.  appreciate the input.
[01:51] <init6> I will try http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:52] <tekteen> np
[01:52] <sFEARs> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45181/
[01:53] <tekteen> sFEARs: looking at it (give me a sec)
[01:53] <sFEARs> thanks
[01:53] <Beowulf> yay!
[01:54] <Beowulf> It's making stuff
[01:54] <tekteen> sFears: what distro is it?
[01:54] <Beowulf> Is it possible at all to win at Thirteen?'
[01:55] <shaffy> tekteen: yo,i am still here.  but quick question.  your option that you said, does it read from CDDB as well before ripping to keep filenames and such?
[01:55] <sFEARs> any
[01:55] <sFEARs> redhat
[01:55] <kjnfkjnkjfgkjfgk> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[01:55] <tekteen> shaffy: yes
[01:55] <sFEARs> do the distro files need to be loaded in the root filesystem?
[01:55] <shaffy> tekteen: sweet.  thanks dude.
[01:56] <sFEARs> does it matter that they're on a logical partition?
[01:56] <tekteen> sFEARs: yes
[01:56] <Beowulf> Nick: /usr/lib/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `gzopen64'
[01:56] <Beowulf> Nick: then it got 2 errors and terminated
[01:56] <tekteen> sFEARs: it should be in a primary partition
[01:56] <sFEARs> i tried to set up the root filesystem onto the logical partition and wanted grub to point to it
[01:57] <tekteen> sFEARs: don't know how
[01:58] <sFEARs> just like windows points to hd0,0 and kubuntu points to hd0,1 i want it to point to hd0,6.. just so happens that's a logical partition, has all the files i need on it, just not sure which kernel to use.. i think
[01:58] <Beowulf> tekteen: /usr/lib/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `gzopen64'
[01:58] <tekteen> sFEARs: use /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic
[01:59] <sFEARs> will try
[01:59] <tekteen> hold on
[01:59] <sFEARs> that's not specifically for kubuntu?
[01:59] <tekteen> nm
[01:59] <tekteen> one sec
[02:00] <wastedfluid> hello.. i have a problem i've never experienced before.  When I am using Amarok to play mp3s, xorg's cpu usage goes to 55-75%.. and just owns my laptop.  If I close Amarok, it dies down and goes to normal.. however, if I just stop the mp3 - it still stays high..
[02:00] <tekteen> sFEARs: use "/vmlinuz"
[02:00] <tekteen> that is a symlink to the newest kernel
[02:01] <ubuntu> Valaki magyarul tude ?
[02:01] <Beowulf> tekteen: a little assistance?
[02:01]  * tekteen is helping too much
[02:01] <tekteen> what do u need Beowulf
[02:02] <Beowulf> tekteen: /usr/lib/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `gzopen64'
[02:02] <Beowulf> tekteen: It tells me that then it terminates
[02:02] <tekteen> Beowulf: No clue. Sorry
[02:02] <Beowulf> damn
[02:02] <Beowulf> oh well
[02:02] <tekteen> try clamav
[02:02] <tekteen> it is EASY
[02:03] <tekteen> good for first time
[02:04] <tekteen> Beowulf: http://freshmeat.net/redir/clamav/29355/url_tgz/clamav-0.91.2.tar.gz
[02:04] <stdin> !clamav
[02:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clamav - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <stdin> !info clamav
[02:04] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.91.2-3ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 856 kB, installed size 1284 kB
[02:05] <tekteen> stdin: he is trying to compile from source. :-)
[02:05] <stdin> exactly
[02:05] <stdin> why do it when it's packaged?
[02:05] <NickPresta> Compiling something from source for the sake of compiling something from sources seems rather, odd, to say the least.
[02:06] <NickPresta> There are smaller, unpackages applications, which can be compiled from source if you really, really want to compile something
[02:06] <tekteen> stdin: he is learning to compiling from source
[02:06] <NickPresta> s/unpackages/unpackaged
[02:06] <daftman> does anyone have problem with eclipse on kubuntu?
[02:06] <stdin> tekteen: there's a guide for that
[02:06] <stdin> !compile
[02:06] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:06] <tekteen> cool
[02:06] <tekteen> ty
[02:07] <daftman> eclipse keep crashing on me
[02:07] <stdin> also help in #ubuntu-motu
[02:07] <daftman> only on ubuntu
[02:09] <NickPresta> daftman, it is only a ubuntu problem?
[02:10] <shaffy> does anyone know how to get an updated irc server list in konversation?  like somehow using the mIRC server.ini file?
[02:11] <daftman> NickPresta: yes i don't have the problem if I download europa from eclipse website
[02:11] <daftman> NickPresta: only when I get eclipse through the repo, things start to go wrong
[02:11] <daftman> NickPresta: like the splash screen doesn't stay
[02:11] <daftman> *dissappear
[02:11] <daftman> *crash often
[02:14] <init6> I thought I would share what I just learned. in kubuntu 7.1. if apt-manager thinks it can update to 7.1 you have to go into a terminal and run: apt-get update then apt-get upgrade fixes the issue.
[02:14] <tekteen> init6: nice to know
[02:19] <hagabaka> is there a program that configures the side buttons with presets in common programs?
[02:19] <hagabaka> side buttons on mice
[02:22] <hellhound> does anyone know a scan program in kde that can scan to pdf?
[02:26] <BluesKaj> hellhound, I've used the kooka scan app, but for my setup it doesn't do nearly as wellas windows on photos as the windows apps do, dunno about pdf files , maybe they might be ok , not sure.
[02:27] <BluesKaj> oops repeating myself again
[02:27] <stdin> just scan to an image then print to pdf
[02:32] <jarmes> is there a utility for modifying power management?
[02:34] <jarmes> when I leave my desktop idle for about 2 hours, it shuts down, and I'm wondering if this could be a power management issue
[02:37] <jake_> I've had an issue for a while. I have an older machine (eMachines W4885) that will not boot *Ubuntu - alt disk or regular disk. It simply reads the CD during bootup but then goes on to boot from the hard disk. I believe I have everything set up correctly in the bios, as some distros (Mandriva, SUSE, Puppy) boot fine.
[02:38] <hellhound> BluesKaj: do you happen to know how to scan to full size.  For some reason it keeps reducing the image
[02:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> uh?
[02:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> it scans at a certain dpi value
[02:41] <dsmith_> Daisuke_Laptop: who did you say makes he best laptops?
[02:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> makes the best?  i dunno
[02:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> i like my dell though :)
[02:42] <dsmith_> heh
[02:42] <dsmith_> someone told me fujistu or toshiba
[02:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> hellhound: a 4x6 image scanned at 100 dpi is "actual size" at 400x600 pixels
[02:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> a 4x6 image scanned at 1200 dpi is "actual size" at 4800 x 7200 pixels
[02:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> actual size is relative.
[02:44] <hellhound> Daisuke_Laptop: I am trying to scan a letter and print it to pdf.  When i do this the document is small
[02:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> logical followthrough of the last couple things i said: if you want it LARGER, increase the DPI
[02:46] <hellhound> Daisuke_Laptop: i guess what I am asking is what dpi i should have it at if the scanned image i 8.5x11 and I want it to print to pdf at 8.5x11
[02:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> scan at, say, 300-600 dpi
[02:47] <hellhound> Daisuke_Laptop: Thank you.
[02:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's not all, give me a moment :)
[02:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> trying to give you the right options here :)
[02:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> i wouldn't print from kooka
[02:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> gwenview an option?
[02:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> should be
[02:49] <hellhound> Daisuke_Laptop: yes I have that program... what is wrong with kooka though
[02:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> because i don't have it right here in front of me - this should apply though, i think it's a default print dialog for both
[02:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> there should be a scaling option somewhere when you choose to print to pdf
[02:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> fit to page.
[02:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> okay, in kooka, you'll have to hit the options button, then it's under image printing
[02:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> scale image to fit page
[02:52] <rafa> hi!!
[02:53] <hellhound> Daisuke_Laptop: i do not see an options button in kooka
[02:54] <wastedfluid> hello.. i have a problem i've never experienced before.  When I am using Amarok to play mp3s, xorg's cpu usage goes to 55-75%.. and just owns my laptop.  If I close Amarok, it dies down and goes to normal.. however, if I just stop the mp3 - it still stays high..
[02:54] <level1> hi, amarok crashed and now it just won't run again
[02:54] <level1> I ran it from the command line, and I get nothing, it just hangs and never produces any output
[02:54] <level1> wastedfluid: have you tried other media formats?
[02:55] <wastedfluid> Not necessarily.
[02:55] <wastedfluid> i played a dvd and it didn't get this hot.. it didn't even jack up the cpu like that
[02:55] <level1> wastedfluid: have you or haven't you?
[02:55] <level1> wastedfluid: in amarok I mean
[02:56] <wastedfluid> no, I haven't.. lettme try.
[02:56] <hellhound> Daisuke_Laptop: nevermind i found it
[02:57] <hellhound> Daisuke_Laptop: awesome it works perfectly.. Thank you
[02:57] <wastedfluid> level1: sigh, I went to open it.. and it did again; xorg at 85%.. I can't even really open it and to try.
[03:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> back
[03:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> was fiddling with GB
[03:08] <medion_> having trouble getting konqueor to connect to web pages.. need some help
[03:08] <cpk1> wastedfluid: what if you use a different app to play mp3's?
[03:18] <fignew> medion_ what's up?
[03:20] <Aresilek> hey does anyone know of a flv player for kubuntu?
[03:22] <AmyRose> Aresilek: Yes, Kaffeine plays them
[03:22] <BluesKaj> VLC
[03:22] <AmyRose> Aresilek: You need to install libxine1-ffmpeg
[03:23] <Aresilek> BluesKaj: VLC? not working for me :-(
[03:23] <Aresilek> AmyRose: how do i do that?
[03:23] <AmyRose> Aresilek: If you install libxine1-ffmpeg in Adept/Synaptic/Aptitude/whatever (with the Universe and Multiverse enabled) you can play FLV's in Kaffeine
[03:25] <Aresilek> AmyRose: found it :-D thanks :-)
[03:26] <AmyRose> Aresilek: You're welcome
[03:26] <AmyRose> BluesKaj: I can't get VLC working for most of what I try playing with it
[03:27] <AmyRose> People keep saying it's the greatest player ever, but I cannot get the stupid player to work
[03:27] <Aresilek> AmyRose: i think it is the best player ever, and was shocked that it wouldn't play flv, i'm sure i've played flv in vlc in windows
[03:28] <BluesKaj> it'll run most formats that i know of including media iso files
[03:28] <dthacker> !ipod
[03:28] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[03:28] <Aresilek> it works! :-D
[03:29] <AmyRose> !rockbox
[03:29] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[03:29] <MilitantPotato> I love VLC, but here recently the sound either skips, doesn't play or the video fails to load completely
[03:29] <BluesKaj> !songbird
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about songbird - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <MilitantPotato> I've started using kaffeen
[03:30] <sn00zer> i prefer amarok for audio and mplayer for video
[03:30] <BluesKaj> dthacker, I've heard good things about songbird for ipods on linux
[03:30] <AmyRose> I hate iPods with a passion
[03:31] <biovore> yay..
[03:31] <BluesKaj> hehe, yeah ppl either luv 'em or hate 'em
[03:31] <biovore> propritary crap...
[03:31] <biovore> then again.. you can put rockbox on them :-)
[03:31] <dthacker> I installed Kubuntu on one of my son's friends computers.  Now he wants to use a brand new ipod on it and I now there were issues with them.
[03:32] <dthacker> s/now/know
[03:32] <dthacker> so I'm looking for the package or patch if one is available
[03:32] <BluesKaj> could care less about "disposable music" ...mp3 in other words, casual listening maybe
[03:32] <medion> where in system settings can you configure what happens when you close the laptop screen??
[03:32] <AmyRose> medion: The battery monitor
[03:33] <medion> thank you
[03:33] <AmyRose> medion: in the system tray. That's what controls it
[03:34] <BluesKaj> well sacktime for me ...nite all
[03:34] <hydrogen> dthacker: you need to compile Amarok against libgpod 0.6.0.. but it can handle them now
[03:35] <Beowulf> I get this weird error while compiling compiz
[03:35] <Beowulf> can anyone help with that?
[03:36] <dthacker> hydrogen: do you use a Kubuntu source package to compile?  Will that keep package management clean?
[03:36] <Beowulf> /usr/lib/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `gzopen64'
[03:36] <Beowulf> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[03:36] <hydrogen> dthacker: you need to do a bit of working around to get it right :/
[03:36] <dthacker> hydrogen: ok, got a link,  I'll try a test box first.
[03:37] <dthacker> I mean got a link?
[03:37] <hydrogen> dthacker: hmm.. trying to think of the easiest way for you to do it and keep package management clean
[03:37] <hydrogen> perhaps just build your own .deb...
[03:37] <hydrogen> or use checkinstall
[03:37]  * dthacker takes notes
[03:38] <Beowulf> hydrogen: you seem knowledgeable, could you help me?
[03:38] <hydrogen> !checkinstall
[03:38] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[03:38] <hydrogen> yea, thats what you should use dthacker :)
[03:39] <dthacker> hydrogen: thanks!  this looks like something cool to play with. :)
[03:39] <Beowulf> hydrogen: I get this weird error while compiling compiz
[03:39] <Beowulf> /usr/lib/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `gzopen64'
[03:39] <Beowulf> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[03:40] <hydrogen> why are you compiling compiz?
[03:40] <Beowulf> I wanted to test my compiling
[03:40] <Beowulf> it wasnt working and i thought i fixed it
[03:41] <Beowulf> I'm just missing something else
[03:41] <Beowulf> I'm on the "make" stage
[03:43] <Beowulf> ...
[03:44] <blmm> Most, but not all, of my toolbars icons in Kontact were one day replaced by ugly-looking (default?) ones. What could have happened?
[03:44] <Beowulf> blmm: go to a konsole and type in kcontrol
[03:44] <smax> what is the apache directory to store an index.html ?
[03:44] <blmm> Yes...
[03:45] <Beowulf> did you do that?
[03:45] <blmm> yep
[03:45] <Beowulf> go to ummm'
[03:45] <Beowulf> hang on
[03:45] <blmm> Icons?
[03:45] <blmm> I have Crystal SVG selected.
[03:46] <Beowulf> switch yuor icon set
[03:46] <Beowulf> then switch it back
[03:46] <Beowulf> A program you got might have modified it
[03:46] <blmm> Switching to Crystal Clear...
[03:47] <blmm> The icons did not change in Kontact. They did change elsewhere.
[03:48] <Beowulf> hmmm
[03:48] <blmm> I still have a mix of Crystal SVG (I assume) and the ugly ones in Kontact.
[03:48] <Beowulf> the icons might be corrupted
[03:48] <blmm> None of them are Crystal Clear, so Kontact didn't register the change at all.
[03:48] <Beowulf> oh
[03:48] <Beowulf> hmm
[03:49] <blmm> I did restart Kontact.
[03:49] <Beowulf> lemme open it
[03:49] <blmm> Tried switching to Monocrome; no effect in Kontact.
[03:50] <Beowulf> hmmm
[03:50] <smax> <IP_ADDRESS>/funny.jpg
[03:51] <Beowulf> smax: wtf...
[03:52] <Beowulf> blmm: sorry, I don't know
[03:52] <Beowulf> one thing you might try though
[03:52] <blmm> ok
[03:53] <Beowulf> If you really care about icons and its that important to you
[03:53] <Beowulf> remove kontact
[03:53] <Beowulf> then reinstall
[03:53] <blmm> Makes sense. Purge it?
[03:53] <Beowulf> pretty much
[03:55] <ardchoille> I don't think that icons in kontact change with the icon theme.
[03:56] <ardchoille> At least they never have here and I have used it over the past couple years
[03:56] <blmm> Is there a Kontact-specific setting then?
[03:56] <ardchoille> I've never found one
[03:56] <Beowulf> I looked, i didnt find it
[03:56] <ardchoille> I think the are hard-coded
[03:57] <Beowulf> remove kontact
[03:57] <Beowulf> sudo apt-get purge kontact
[03:57] <Beowulf> ardchoille: could you help me?
[03:57] <blmm> I was in the process, but that wants to remove "kde" and therefore all packages that were auto-installed with it.
[03:58] <Beowulf> um
[03:58] <ardchoille> Beowulf: With what?
[03:58] <Beowulf> it shouldnt do that
[03:58] <Beowulf> nevermind then
[03:58] <Beowulf> hmmm
[03:58] <blmm> I tried starting Kontact as another user though, and there it looks OK. So something in my user settings.
[03:58] <Beowulf> actually
[03:58] <Beowulf> oh
[03:58] <Beowulf> ok
[03:58] <Beowulf> hang on
[03:58] <Beowulf> ardchoille: my compiz wont compile
[03:59] <ardchoille> Beowulf: I don't use compiz or beryl and never will.
[03:59] <Beowulf> oh
[03:59] <Beowulf> ardchoille: it's unrelated to using it
[04:00] <Beowulf> /usr/lib/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `gzopen64'
[04:00] <Beowulf> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[04:00] <ardchoille> Beowulf: I don't kow anything about compiling. I only use apps that are in the official repos
[04:00] <Beowulf> oh
[04:00] <blmm> Look at that: [Icons] Theme=Locolor in kontactrc...
[04:00] <purpleposeidon> Beowulf: Who are you?
[04:01] <blmm> I wonder how that got there...
[04:01] <ardchoille> blmm: haha
[04:01] <Beowulf> purpleposeidon: who are you?
[04:01] <Beowulf> ardchoille: know how to install apache?
[04:01] <purpleposeidon> I AM PURPLEPOSEDION! And you?
[04:02] <modjo> hi every body!
[04:02] <ardchoille> blmm: blmm That isn't in my kontactrc at all
[04:02] <blmm> OK. That worked. It even respected my current setting of "Monochrome" icons.
[04:02] <ardchoille> Beowulf: No, sorry
[04:02] <Beowulf> I!
[04:02] <modjo> is it posible con access KEXI tables using JAVA?
[04:02] <Beowulf> AM!
[04:02] <Beowulf> BEOWULF!
[04:02] <blmm> Missing icons are pulled from Crystal SVG.
[04:02] <purpleposeidon> !shout
[04:03] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:03] <ardchoille> blmm: Where did you add that ?
[04:03] <blmm> ardchollie: So then the icons in Kontact should really change for you if you change the icon settings.
[04:03] <ardchoille> blmm: There are no icon settings in my kontactrc
[04:03] <Beowulf> !shout| purpleposeidon
[04:03] <ubotu> purpleposeidon: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:03] <Beowulf> :D
[04:03] <blmm> I added nothing intentionally. Something added that setting. I now removed it.
[04:03] <Beowulf> !happy
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about happy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <purpleposeidon> Now now now, don't abuse ubotu too much. :P
[04:04] <Beowulf> !ubotu
[04:04] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:04] <Beowulf> ?
[04:04] <modjo> is it posible con access KEXI tables using JAVA?...anyone?
[04:04] <Beowulf> !lol
[04:04] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[04:04] <modjo> !kexi
[04:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kexi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <Beowulf> !info kexi
[04:04] <ubotu> kexi: integrated database environment for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.3-0ubuntu5.1 (gutsy), package size 3548 kB, installed size 11032 kB
[04:05] <ardchoille> blmm: When I add that line, it gets removed as soon as kontact closes.. ie, it's not supposed to be there.
[04:05] <Beowulf> !info kexi
[04:05] <Beowulf> !info kexi| modjo
[04:05] <ubotu> modjo: please see above
[04:05] <modjo> yes im seeing
[04:05] <modjo> i got a question
[04:05] <Beowulf> k?
[04:05] <modjo> i KNOW what kexi is
[04:05] <modjo> but i wanna know how to access it using java
[04:05] <modjo> how do i ask that on this channel? or even in google?
[04:06] <blmm> ardchiolle: If you want to edit the file you should probably do it while Kontact is not running, or I would expect that your changes do indeed get overwritten.
[04:06] <Beowulf> !howdy
[04:06] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:06] <Beowulf> !hello
[04:06] <Beowulf> ...
[04:06] <Beowulf> !hello
[04:06] <Beowulf> !hello
[04:06] <Beowulf> !hello
[04:06] <Beowulf> !hello
[04:06] <Beowulf> !hello
[04:06] <Beowulf> !hello
[04:06] <Beowulf> !hello
[04:06] <hydrogen> !bot abuse
[04:06] <ubotu> Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot
[04:06] <Beowulf> !hello
[04:06] <ardchoille> blmm: I did it while kontact wasn't running. Then I opened kontact and closed it and that line got removed.
[04:06] <Beowulf> yay
[04:06] <Beowulf> he's back!
[04:06] <hydrogen> stop spamming.
[04:06] <Beowulf> hydrogen: help me now?
[04:06] <hydrogen> no.
[04:07] <modjo> is it posible con access KEXI tables using JAVA?...anyone?
[04:07] <Beowulf> please
[04:07] <biovore> lol
[04:07] <blmm> Oh. It is supposed to be two lines... See the syntax in the rest of the file.
[04:07] <ardchoille> Beowulf: You'll get kicked out of the channel for that if you make the ops mad
[04:07] <Beowulf> I asked you before and you didn't answer
[04:07] <ardchoille> Who me?
[04:07] <blmm> I just wrote it like that here not to flood the channel.
[04:07] <Beowulf> no
[04:07] <Beowulf> hydrogen
[04:08] <blmm> A wasted effort, apparently ;-)
[04:08] <modjo> is it posible con access KEXI tables using JAVA?...anyone?
[04:08] <ardchoille> blmm: But, kudos to you for digging thru the *r file when you couldn't find an answer, that shows initiative :)
[04:08] <ardchoille> *rc file
[04:09] <blmm> archoille: Well, it was my question to begin with.
[04:10] <Beowulf> !google| modjo
[04:10] <ubotu> modjo: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[04:10] <modjo> how do i ask that on this channel? or even in google?
[04:10] <Beowulf> KEXI tables in JAVA
[04:10] <modjo> :\
[04:10] <Beowulf> ...
[04:12] <ardchoille> Speaking of java.. coffee time
[04:21] <rfmonk> anyone know why alt-tab doesn't change window focus like it did before I installed k
[04:22] <biovore> It dose here..
[04:22] <rfmonk> hmm
[04:22] <moparisthebest> kde you mean rfmonk ?
[04:22] <biovore> compiz?
[04:22] <rfmonk> kubuntu yes kde
[04:22] <moparisthebest> its a setting someplace, not very helpful to you though :/
[04:24] <rfmonk> you'd think it would be in this 'kcontrol' but I haven't found it yet
[04:25] <rfmonk> there is a lot of people in this room.
[04:26] <biovore> Kinda low atm
[04:27] <rfmonk> biovore, were you refering to my conversation when you said compiz?
[04:30] <biovore> nope
[04:39] <ubunturos> !update
[04:39] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:43] <Solifugus> Is there a program for video/voice recording from my webcam?
[04:43] <Solifugus> It works with Skype, but I don't know of any other application to record myself with.
[04:44] <MyNameIsURL> hey all
[04:44] <MyNameIsURL> just installed Feisty
[04:44] <ardchoille> Ok, a friend of mine just plugge her computer into my router. Is it possible to mount her C: drive on kubuntu? I think it's NTFS. Don't want to write anything, just want to mount.
[04:44] <MyNameIsURL> works like a charm
[04:46] <MyNameIsURL> are you using Konqueror as a file manager?
[04:46] <usamahashimi> Hello Everyone!
[04:46] <usamahashimi> How can I install Gtk+ in kubuntu Gusty?
[04:46] <ardchoille> MyNameIsURL: You talking to me?
[04:47] <ardchoille> You gotta be kidding me
[04:47] <ardchoille> I typed smb:/<IP_ADDRESS> into konq and it let me browse. That was easy
[04:48] <MyNameIsURL> how many machines are on your network?
[04:48] <ardchoille> 4
[04:48] <MyNameIsURL> so you can see all her storage devices now?
[04:49] <Solifugus> ardchoille: in konqueror, it's smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/....... whatever your share is called..
[04:50] <ardchoille> MyNameIsURL: yes
[04:50] <ardchoille> Solifugus: Yeah, thank you :)
[04:50] <ardchoille> Does that mean I have samba installed and running?
[04:51] <ardchoille> I don't remember installing samba
[04:51] <Solifugus> or.. cifs, not necessarilly samba...
[04:51] <Solifugus> but kde came with what it needed.
[04:51] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[04:51] <ardchoille> Indeed it did
[04:53] <ubunturos> Solifugus: windows (ntfs / vfat) partition are usually accessed samba, isn't it?
[04:53] <ardchoille> Well, it'll browse C:, but it won't let me go into any folders.. keeps asking me for a username/password
[04:54] <Solifugus> ubunturos: samba is for sharing with windows over a tcp/ip network...
[04:54] <ubunturos> Solifugus: ok
[04:54] <Solifugus> ubunturos: ntfs/vfat are filesystems, you can define in your /etc/fstab file..
[04:54] <Solifugus> to mount a partition
[04:55] <ardchoille> It won't let me read any files or open any folders
[04:55] <ubunturos> Solifugus: ok
[04:55] <ardchoille> Could it be because it's NTFS ?
[04:56] <Solifugus> it shouldn't matter, if it's a share over the network...
[04:56] <ubunturos> ardchoille: may be. You probably need to enable write permissions
[04:56] <Solifugus> for writing, yes.. that would matter
[04:56] <ardchoille> ubunturos: It won't let me copy any files over to my kubuntu either
[04:57] <ardchoille> I don't want to write to the Windows share, I just wanted to know if I could read or copy files
[04:57] <ubunturos> ardchoille: you should be able to copy
[04:58] <ardchoille> konq says it can't read any of the files
[04:58] <Solifugus> ardchoille: but it lists them
[04:58] <Solifugus> ?
[04:58] <ardchoille> yes
[04:59] <ardchoille> I can see the files/folders, just can't copy or read anything or cd into folders
[05:00] <ubunturos> ardchoille: hmm, I had the same problem. I allowed write permissions, and then I could copy to and from the folder to my Kubuntu desktop
[05:00] <ubunturos> ardchoille: though, that sounds odd, because, we aren't writing anything, it worked. May be samba is trying to write some temporary file in the background
[05:01] <ardchoille> I remember being able to mount a Windows C: disk on ubuntu Dapper. How is that done?
[05:02] <neville> Don't you need
[05:02] <neville> NTFS-3g
[05:02] <neville> ?
[05:02] <ardchoille> Something like: sudo mount -t ntfs <IP_ADDRESS>:C /mnt/windows
[05:02] <biovore> to read the disk no..
[05:02] <ardchoille> neville: If you're going to write to the windows disk, yes
[05:02] <ubunturos> neville: I didn't have to install ntfs-3g to write files over samba
[05:02] <biovore> mount -t ntfs /dev/<device> /media/<somedir>
[05:02] <neville> Ahh, okay, nevermind then >.>;
[05:03] <ardchoille> biovore: But what is the /dev/<device> ?
[05:03] <ardchoille> biovore: It's thru the router
[05:03] <hydrogen> well
[05:03] <hydrogen> samba is a different beast all together
[05:03] <biovore> you mean samba then.. window share..
[05:04] <ubunturos> hydrogen: hmm, possibly, it hides the file system behind its own "way" of sharing
[05:04] <biovore> apt-get install smbfs
[05:04] <ardchoille> Well, ntfs-3g is installed and I didn't install it. Does Gutsy ship with it?
[05:04] <hydrogen> ubunturos: no, it provides a network filesystem, it has nothing to do with ntfs
[05:05] <ubunturos> hydrogen: hmm, ok
[05:05] <hydrogen> with the small exception that it can write to ntfs
[05:05] <biovore> smbmount //computername/sharename /mount/point/dir -o username=someuser,password=mypassword
[05:05] <ubunturos> hydrogen: ah, ok
[05:13] <ardchoille> I guess this is what I get for not using Windows in 7 years, I don't know how to work it, lol
[05:13] <ubunturos> ardchoille: did enabling write permissions, not work?
[05:14] <ardchoille> I don't even know how to do that
[05:14] <ardchoille> It's not important, I was just curious to see if I could mount/browse
[05:14] <ubunturos> ardchoille: how did you enable sharnig for a folder? (right click, Sharing and Security?)
[05:14] <ardchoille> No idea
[05:14] <ubunturos> (in that windows machine)
[05:15] <ardchoille> It was already done I guess
[05:15] <ardchoille> Oh, she did that.
[05:15] <ubunturos> hmm, ardchoille, it may not have.
[05:15] <ubunturos> ardchoille: windows, might have enabled sharing, by default
[05:15] <ardchoille> That's not smart, IMHO
[05:15]  * ardchoille thinks he's getting ot
[05:16] <ubunturos> ardchoille: hmm, anyway, you can right click on a folder foo and then click on Sharing. There's an option to (a link) to enable file sharing which will give you an option to "just enable file sharing"
[05:19] <ardchoille> ubunturos: That was it, sorted. Thank you very much :)
[05:19] <ubunturos> ardchoille: welcome. /me gets thinking about that mysterious write permission ;)
[05:20] <A2t3can0v3r10rd> can someone tell ubuntu channel reps to see this link as i cant and am banned for life lol___http://madderhatters.blogspot.com/?
[05:22] <ardchoille> ubunturos: Apparently, Gutsy installs ntfs-3g during the initial install because I have it installed but I didn't install it.. this is just the first time I've used it.
[05:22] <kelvie> anyone know how to fix that kopete crashing problem?
[05:22] <kelvie> basically everyone I know that has gutsy has it :/
[05:22] <ardchoille> kelvie: When connecting to msn?
[05:22] <kelvie> ardchoille: yep
[05:22] <kelvie> I sent one of them the deb link
[05:22] <kelvie> for kdelibs
[05:22] <kelvie> and it says a newer version is installed :/
[05:22] <ardchoille> kelvie: sudo apt-get upgrade  (that bug was fixed)
[05:23] <ubunturos> ardchoille: hmm, ok
[05:23] <kelvie> mmm I'll look into it :P
[05:26] <NightBird> hm... whenever I try to get my laptop to go to sleep or hibernate, it fails to fully go into the target state, and just locks up the system
[05:26] <biovore> probably buggy bios with ACPI
[05:27] <NightBird> the linux boot does report a BIOS Bug #81 being found
[05:27] <biovore> probably the problem..
[05:27] <NightBird> I've managed to get it to work before, even when it was reporting it, but since I've done a wipe, I lost whatever modifications they were that worked around the problem
[05:29] <surgy> hello
[05:29] <NightBird> hi
[05:29] <ardchoille> hi surgy
[05:29] <NightBird> biovore: do you know where the scripts are that handle the switching to sleep/hybernate mode?
[05:29] <NightBird> or where to look for it?
[05:30] <NightBird> n/m, found them
[05:31] <surgy> im using a gamemon gamepad converter to convert my playstation controller to usb, so that i can play pSX with the proper gamepad, my problem is that kubuntu recognizes my gamepad as having too few buttons and sets the digital direction pad as an axis, therefore i cant map the digital d-pad as macroes in the emulator, can someone help me please?
[05:33] <ardchoille> surgy: I can't begin to describe how "over my head" that is, lol
[05:33] <surgy> lol
[05:33] <evil-rhino> anyone have an idea how wrap a textfile to 80 characters per line nicely using one wizardish shell command?
[05:34] <surgy> Jucato: i think you might be the one to ask for on my problem, if your available
[05:34] <surgy> evil-rhino: why do you need to do this?
[05:34] <ardchoille> me thinks he's asleep
[05:34] <NightBird> ugh... booting also takes a long time
[05:35] <surgy> ?
[05:35] <surgy> can anyone help me?
[05:36] <biovore> !ask
[05:36] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:36] <surgy> biovore: i allready did " im using a gamemon gamepad converter to convert my playstation controller to usb, so that i can play pSX with the proper gamepad, my problem is that kubuntu recognizes my gamepad as having too few buttons and sets the digital direction pad as an axis, therefore i cant map the digital d-pad as macroes in the emulator, can someone help me please?
[05:36] <biovore> no clue here.. I don't do that kind of stuff..
[05:37] <ardchoille> surgy must be a die-hard gamer
[05:37] <surgy> lol
[05:37] <ardchoille> If he understands that stuff
[05:37] <surgy> only the old ones that im still adicted to, that no one plays anymore
[05:37] <ardchoille> The older games were great
[05:38] <surgy> well its not hard, there has to be another driver or a config file im missing somewhere
[05:38] <surgy> it should be similar if not the same as configuring a force feedback joystick
[05:39] <ardchoille> surgy: If no one answers here, try thr forums. Lots of folks there too
[05:39] <MilitantPotato> What does Flushed IO / Cached IO do when mounting a partiton?
[05:40] <surgy> ardchoille: how new are you? no ofense but ive been around, thnx for the help though
[05:41] <ardchoille> surgy: I've been using Linux since 2001, ubuntu since 2004. But I don't install anything unless it's in the repos. I've never had any big problems in Linux and that may be why I don't knowhow to fix very much.
[05:41] <Taheton> Hi
[05:41] <daffytheduck> hi there Ive got a problem with tor and privoxy Im using Vidalia to start tor and Im getting the following message despite having everything properly configured "Could not bind to <IP_ADDRESS>:9050: Cannot assign requested address"
[05:41] <ardchoille> hi Taheton
[05:41] <daffytheduck> can anyone help thnx
[05:44] <dthacker> daffytheduck: is there another service running on 9050?
[05:45] <daffytheduck> thats what i was thinking
[05:45] <daffytheduck> i dont know
[05:45] <daffytheduck> ive just updated my wireless network drivers
[05:46] <daffytheduck> and im thinking there could be something goiong on there
[05:46] <dthacker> daffytheduck: did it work *before* you updated the wireless drivers?
[05:46] <daffytheduck> yes
[05:46] <daffytheduck> but i was having the same problem at times b4 I updated
[05:46] <daffytheduck> i but most of the time it was ok
[05:47] <daffytheduck> now i rebooted twice and its the same thing
[05:47] <daffytheduck> im thinking of changing the default port in torrc
[05:47] <dthacker> daffytheduck: is *any* traffic going through the wireless device(s)?
[05:47] <ardchoille> daffytheduck: Could it be the fault of the new wireless drivers? Bad drivers?
[05:47] <daffytheduck> yes
[05:48] <daffytheduck> im tlaking to u now through it
[05:48] <ardchoille> ok
[05:48] <daffytheduck> so its working fine with greater strength than b4
[05:48] <surgy>  im using a gamemon gamepad converter to convert my playstation controller to usb, so that i can play pSX with the proper gamepad, my problem is that kubuntu recognizes my gamepad as having too few buttons and sets the digital direction pad as an axis, therefore i cant map the digital d-pad as macroes in the emulator, can someone help me please?
[05:49] <dthacker> daffytheduck: so the network device works, but the specific port doesn't.  Are you behind a firewall?
[05:49] <daffytheduck> ill try to change the port in torrc   I didnt want to do it b4 because id have to change privoxy config as well
[05:49] <daffytheduck> no im not
[05:49] <daffytheduck> i dont have firestarter installed
[05:50] <NightBird> how would I find out what is causing my laptop to take so long to start up?
[05:50] <dthacker> daffytheduck: there is no router or firewall between you and the internet?
[05:50] <dthacker> NightBird: please define "long"?
[05:50] <NightBird> last message I see on screen one is "kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot..." and then it waits
[05:51] <NightBird> dthacker: about a minute to two minutes
[05:51] <daffytheduck> there is a router but ive got it set up DMZ
[05:51] <NightBird> I can time it next time I restart(which will probably be pretty soon) if you want
[05:52] <daffytheduck> i tried using port 9051 same thing
[05:52] <daffytheduck> I might tru to purge reinstall tor and see how it goes
[05:52] <daffytheduck> try
[05:52] <ardchoille> NightBird: I get that same message (kinit..) but the wait is about 10 seconds
[05:52] <arun_> Hello people. I'd like to know if I can rescue files from a Windows system using the Kubuntu Live CD. I plan on backing up the files from the Windows drive to an external hard disk
[05:53] <dthacker> daffytheduck: verify that you really are DMZ, or put it behind the router and port forward.
[05:53] <arun_> is it possible? and if so, then is it really slow to back up files using a live cd?
[05:53] <NightBird> ardchoille: yeah, I'm guessing it's looking for a suspend image, and when it doesn't find it, it just does a normal boot
[05:53] <dthacker> NightBird: How much RAM?
[05:53] <ardchoille> NightBird: That's what I thought too
[05:53] <daffytheduck> its definately DMZ ive got it set up for this internal IP
[05:53] <posingaspopular> arun_: im pretty sure it is possible, but i haven't tried windows in a while
[05:53] <posingaspopular> Im almost 100 percent sure though.
[05:53] <posingaspopular> duno about speed
[05:54] <NightBird> dthacker: I think it has 256 megs of ram, but 32 megs are shared with the graphics
[05:54] <arun_> posingaspopular: alright, thanks. i havent used windows in a long time too, one of my friends has this problem, so i said i'd try to rescue his files
[05:55] <dthacker> NightBird: that will cost you time on boot.  I have a 384 mb laptop that takes a minute, but my 512mb one is less than a minute.
[05:55] <daffytheduck> yeah i just checked im totally open to the internett
[05:55] <ardchoille> NightBird: Sounds like the amount of ram might make a diff. I have 2Gib ram
[05:55] <NightBird> dthacker: yes, but it normally booted much faster before gutsy, and even in gutsy beta it was booting faster
[05:56] <MilitantPotato> What's the advantages/disadvantages to using Flushed IO over Cached IO
[05:56] <dthacker> daffytheduck: hmmm,   you're going to have to figure out what is stopping you.  Or reverse that driver update.  I think those are your choices.
[05:56] <Creationist> I don't suppose there's a way to totally remove the ubuntu-desktop dependencies, is there?  I regret my decision to install Gnome.
[05:57] <daffytheduck> k
[05:57] <daffytheduck> thnx
[05:57] <ardchoille> !purekde | Creationist
[05:57] <ubotu> Creationist: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[05:57] <daffytheduck> Im trying to reinstall tor now
[05:57] <posingaspopular> arun_: okay good luck
[05:57] <dthacker> ooo, cool.  It's like a utility for buyer's remorse!
[05:57] <Creationist> ardchoille: Although, wouldn't that remove any software I've installed?
[05:58] <ardchoille> Creationist: Have you installed kde (kubuntu-desktop)?
[05:58] <Creationist> ardchoille: I installed Kubuntu 7.10.
[05:58] <Creationist> ardchoille: From the ISO
[05:58] <ardchoille> Creationist: According to that factoid, it only removes gnome stuff
[05:59] <Creationist> ardchoille: I don't care about pure KDE or pure Gnome (they both have applications I like and use).
[05:59] <ardchoille> Creationist: Are you on Gutsy? And installed ubuntu-desktop?
[05:59] <Creationist> Eh well... I guess it's not a HUGE deal except that now my menus are cluttered with applications that do the exact same thing but for different desktops.
[05:59] <Creationist> ardchoille: Correct.
[06:00] <ardchoille> Creationist: as of Edgy, apt-get has a new option, it's "--auto-remove" and it removes dependencies that are no longer needed. So, I assume "sudo apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove ubuntu-desktop" would take out ubuntu-desktop and all its deps.
[06:00] <Zombocom> hello
[06:01] <Zombocom> I need to add video modes because I know my card can support them
[06:01] <Zombocom> and the drivers can as well
[06:01] <Zombocom> I know I'm supposed to add it to the xorg.conf
[06:01] <Creationist> ardchoille: --autoremove removes dependencies that aren't being used... but now that all the applications are installed, they're all being used ;)
[06:01] <Zombocom> but
[06:01] <Zombocom> is it
[06:01] <neville> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:01] <neville> ?
[06:02] <arun_> does the k/ubuntu feisty live cd automatically mount the windows drives?
[06:02] <ardchoille> Creationist: But if you remove ubuntu-desktop, then its deps are no longer being used
[06:02] <Creationist> true
[06:03] <ardchoille> Creationist: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package, it's empty. All it does is serve to "pull in" the gnome desktop and all its deps.
[06:04] <ardchoille> Creationist: You can try it, it'l remove a lot of stuff but will ask for confirmatio before it removes anything
[06:05] <MyNameIsURL> hey, is Beryl included in Feisty Fawn?
[06:05] <ardchoille> MyNameIsURL: In Ubuntu, yes. In Kubuntu, no
[06:05] <ardchoille> !beryl
[06:05] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[06:05] <NightBird> I was wrong, my laptop is operating off of.... 478mb of ram....
[06:06] <MyNameIsURL> aaaah. OK thx
[06:06] <MyNameIsURL> I want to install Compiz then
[06:06] <ardchoille> MyNameIsURL: Wait, you said Feisty? I'm wrong, my info was about Gutsy
[06:06] <arun_> anyone?
[06:06] <Creationist> Hmm.. in Compiz, what is the middle mouse button (in terms of setting mouse events)?
[06:06] <NightBird> (that's with the ram for video is taken out)
[06:06] <ardchoille> !compiz | MyNameIsURL
[06:06] <ubotu> MyNameIsURL: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[06:06] <MyNameIsURL> ok thankys
[06:08] <ardchoille> 'It can get confusing having 4 releases being supported at the same time
[06:08] <surgy>  im using a gamemon gamepad converter to convert my playstation controller to usb, so that i can play pSX with the proper gamepad, my problem is that kubuntu recognizes my gamepad as having too few buttons and sets the digital direction pad as an axis, therefore i cant map the digital d-pad as macroes in the emulator, can someone help me please?
[06:10] <Rukus> anyone know how to stop my monitor from shutting off on my laptop after 10 minutes? i cant change it in the normal monitor settings. i think its an xorg / fglrx problem
[06:10] <Rukus> its kind of annoying when watching movies
[06:11] <ardchoille> Rukus: You already check "Monitor & Display" in kde control centre?
[06:11] <Rukus> yah, it doesnt work
[06:11] <ardchoille> ok
[06:11] <kelvie> xset -dpms; xset s off
[06:11] <kelvie> will make sure it's off
[06:11] <Rukus> yah its off
[06:11] <NightBird> boot time is: 3 minutes, 49 seconds...
[06:12] <Rukus> so now what do i do
[06:12] <ardchoille> NightBird: not to offend or anything, but why reboot? Linux doesn't need to be rebooted unless you're doing kernel work.
[06:14] <Rukus> any ideas?
[06:14] <ardchoille> I suppose one could install kubuntu and run the computer without rebooting until the nest kubuntu release provided there's no kernel upgrade
[06:14] <NightBird> ardchoille: or when acpi stuff doesn't work
[06:14] <ardchoille> ok
[06:14] <NightBird> and I'm trying to get that to either work, or have to shutdown my computer when not in use
[06:15] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[06:20] <NightBird> well... I just disabled the splash screen and the boot speed is fixed..
[06:20] <MyNameIsURL> thanks for the help
[06:20] <MyNameIsURL> I'm outs. Need some sleep
[06:22] <blmm> Where can I change the "open with..." file bindings for "unknown" files? There is an entry in there that I would like to remove. If I click the little wrench icon for such a file, the dialog that pops up has the title "application/x-kdeuser1". This dialog lists no actions. I suspect there might be an "application/x-kdeuser" (without the '1') but that is not in the file types settings.
[06:23] <Rukus> :(
[06:25] <NightBird> how do I tell ubuntu to not scan my windows drive on startup?
[06:26] <emilsedgh> blmm: Konqueror Settings
[06:26] <emilsedgh> blmm: Konqueror->Settings->configure Konqueror->File Associations
[06:26] <blmm> Yes, but I can't find the appropriate file type.
[06:27] <blmm> I just did though.
[06:27] <blmm> It is application/octet-stream.
[06:27] <blmm> Though there is no hint when right-clicking on the file that it is classified as such.
[06:28] <blmm> The setting is in /.kde/share/applnk/.hidden
[06:29]  * NightBird found it... and now I go to bed
[06:31] <blmm> Thanks anyway! I must have right-clicked on some file and said I wanted it opened by kwrite, that got associated to octet-stream and there was no hint what happened. And you can only search by file extension in the GUI.
[06:42] <Zombocom> yo
[06:42] <Zombocom> how do I reconfigure xorg?
[06:43] <Zombocom> you all = gay if you don't answer my question
[06:43] <Zombocom> because it's so damn simple
[06:43] <Zombocom> come on
[06:43] <Zombocom> I serously need help
[06:43] <neville> I thought I told you before
[06:43] <neville> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:43] <ardchoille> Zombocom: Please be respectful of people here, your attitude will dictate whether or not anyone answers :)
[06:43] <neville> Manners please
[06:44] <Jucato> !patience | Zombocom
[06:44] <ubotu> Zombocom: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:44] <ardchoille> I was going to answer but changed my mind after that "gay" comment
[06:44] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:44] <bazhang> Zombocom: see above
[06:45] <neville> -_-v
[06:45] <Jucato> neville: don' you mean -_-;
[06:45] <neville> No
[06:45] <ardchoille> Jucato: Thought you'd be asleep about now
[06:45] <neville> I personally reckon v looks better than ;
[06:45] <Jucato> 2:45pm :)
[06:45] <ardchoille> d'oh!
[06:46] <ardchoille> I hate time zones
[06:47] <Zombocom> oh thanks neville
[06:47] <Zombocom> I had to restart my computer
[06:47] <Zombocom> it went psycho on me because I stopped the process
[06:47] <Zombocom> how do I resume a stopped process?
[06:47] <Zombocom> (the other thing was a dare
[06:48] <Dragonath> something's messed up with my thunderbird - after update to gutsy (was feisty before) some mails show up in the list but give an error when you try to open them - is this common?
[07:04] <sailor> still having problems with "fetch updates" in feisty. Does anyone else have any ideas on why it keeps crashing? I have replaced sources.list file, uninstalled and purged adept-manager and re-installed it again. Nothing seems to work :/
[07:10] <ardchoille> sailor: Does it work if you use apt-get?
[07:11] <snowdonkey> Hi.  I'm trying to access a windows partition on a remote machine using SSH but I can't write to the directories.  What do I need to do?
[07:11] <sailor> ardchoille: yeah apt-get is fine update and upgrade are ok - system is fully up to date. I want to be able to do a dist upgrade using the button in Adept-Manager.
[07:11] <apparle> how to install helix player with the .bin file
[07:11] <sailor> ardchoille: whenever i click "fetch updates" which is supposed to give me that option, adept-manager dies.
[07:11] <ardchoille> sailor: Oh, ok. I don't know, I never use adept_* I just wanted to make sure your APT was working
[07:17] <apparle> any body knows how t play rmvb files
[07:17] <bazhang> real player
[07:19] <apparle> bazhang : and how t install it
[07:19] <bazhang> !real
[07:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:20] <apparle> bazhang: I got te bin file and used ./filename.bin
[07:20] <bazhang> go to real com and then follow their instructions--will have to use command line
[07:21] <apparle> bazhang : I get "No such file or directory"
[07:21] <bazhang> apparle: where are you running the command from? you need to be in the same folder
[07:22] <apparle> bazhang: I am  in te folder and can execte other commands like renaming the file
[07:23] <bazhang> apparle: the commands are case sensitive--REALPLAYER10 etc
[07:23] <apparle> bazhang: I have taken care of te case
[07:24] <bazhang> apparle: and you followed the instructions on the real home page?
[07:25] <apparle> bazhang: Isn't there a .deb file for gutsy or a plugin for kaffiene
[07:26] <bazhang> apparle: not sure there--ubuntuforums.org might have the answer to that--bin file compiled fine here.
[07:30] <sailor> everyone; i found a solution. I had to copy MIT cookie and merge it to user root. Then i could (as root "su -i") run adept_manager --version-upgrade
[07:30] <sailor> seems the problem is that the script couldnt connect to DISPALY=0:0
[07:30] <jussi01> apparle: this page has instructions for realplayer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods?action=show&redirect=RealPlayerInstallationMethods
[07:30] <surgy> fixed my gamepad :)
[07:31] <ardchoille> surgy: Yay!
[07:31] <surgy> guess how?
[07:31] <surgy> i unplugged it went to mcdonald's and came back and plugged it into a different usb :) now its perfect
[07:31] <ardchoille> hahaha
[07:31] <surgy> lol
[07:31] <surgy> was racking my brain there for a min
[07:32] <ardchoille> surgy: Sounds like you may have a defective usb port
[07:32] <surgy> now its time for some tomb raider 1 :)
[07:32] <surgy> nah
[07:32] <bazhang> Mcgamepad!
[07:32] <ardchoille> surgy: That's my favourite game!
[07:32] <surgy> i think the driver just needed to be reset, or the adress changed or something
[07:34] <sn00zer> my ~ char looks the same as my - to me, is this a font issue?
[07:35] <surgy> yerp
[07:35] <surgy> a font issue
[07:35] <apparle> how to install ati drivers on gutsy
[07:36] <surgy> what kind of monitor do you have?
[07:36] <surgy> !ati apparle
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati apparle - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <surgy> !ati
[07:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:36] <sn00zer> surgy: how do i find out what font is missing?
[07:37] <apparle> what is te diffrence between real player adn helix player
[07:40] <newguyss> hi, is there any program I can use to change image format?
[07:41] <apparle> surgy: i don't have net at my computer so tell me which packages to download  for ATI drivers
[07:44] <jussi01> newguyss: just install gimp
[07:45] <apparle> i don't have net at my computer so tell me which packages to download for ATI drivers
[07:45] <jussi01> !repeat > apparle
[07:46] <fontane> does anyone know a keystroke recording program?
[07:51] <se7en_> newguyss: have a look at this www.acetoneteam.org/ works fine for me
[07:53] <jussi01> fontane: why would you need one?
[07:53] <newguyss> thanks guys
[07:53] <newguyss> :)
[07:53] <fontane> jussi01: for nefarious reasons i may not bespeak
[07:54] <bazhang> o4o
[07:54] <ardchoille> fontane: This is not the place to ask about things like that.
[07:54] <fontane> ardchoille: security reasons actually
[07:54] <jussi01> !o4o | fontane
[07:54] <ubotu> fontane: Some things are inappropriate for #kubuntu. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[07:56] <smax> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/funny.jpg
[07:57] <ibert> Is there a HowTo for installing Skype in gutsy (32bit)?
[07:57] <apparle> is there an offline dictionary
[08:00] <apparle> is there any dictionary like wordweb fo linux
[08:00] <jussi01> apparle: wht is word web?
[08:02] <[FG]TNT> hi
[08:02] <apparle> jussi01: It is a dictionary for windows and is superb
[08:02] <[FG]TNT> PL?
[08:02] <jussi01> !pl
[08:02] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:02] <[FG]TNT> jest ktoś z polski?
[08:02] <[FG]TNT> mam pytanie
[08:02] <jussi01> [FG]TNT: only english here
[08:02] <jussi01> [FG]TNT: go to #ubuntu-pl
[08:03] <jussi01> apparle: have a look in add/remove - there are lots of dictionries...
[08:05] <apparle> jussi01: i don't have net at my pc so can't get them
[08:05] <jussi01> apparle: is there no way you can ge net to it? at least for setting stuff up its quite important...
[08:06] <apparle> jussi01: No
[08:06] <ardchoille> apparle: Without a internet connection, even if you downloaded an app, you'll likely run into dependency problems. Rarely do you need just one package for something of moderate feature set.
[08:08] <apparle> ardchoille: Don't you remember you solved that problem for me by helping me make a list of all installed dependencies
[08:08] <apparle> anyway: Tell me the name of sme poplar dictionaries
[08:08] <ardchoille> I don't know of any off-line dictionaries
[08:09] <bazhang> websters
[08:09] <ardchoille> Ok, now I know one, lol
[08:09] <bazhang> really offline :}
[08:09] <apparle> bazhang: is it available for linux
[08:10] <ardchoille> apparle: It's a paperback book
[08:10] <bazhang> apparle: I would guess so, though there are online dictionaries that are not os-specific
[08:10] <apparle> where to get it
[08:10] <bazhang> apparle: the digital one?
[08:11] <apparle> yes
[08:12] <bazhang> apparle: to install, or view on the web?
[08:13] <apparle> bazhang: obviously to install as I donot have net at home
[08:14] <bazhang> apparle: I'm not sure how you can install it without net access--what did you have in mind for this dictionary?
[08:14] <bazhang> ie translation, etc.
[08:16] <apparle> bazhang: I will download the .deb file and dependencies. I want it to lookup difficult words in end while reading ebooks. I want eng to eng dict.
[08:16] <bazhang> apparle: for translation stardict is nice--though again without net access not sure how you plan on installing it--doing it a usb key and transferring it over would mean severe risk of dependency probs
[08:17] <ibert> I'm having a problem with Nvidia Geforce FX 5200. With gutsy, there are no VT's (worked fine with dapper). Neither with the binary driver nor with the nv driver. Another Problem is at Startup that the login Screen doesn't appear alone. I have to press "Ctrl-Alt-Delete" and then XServer restarts and the graphic-logon appears. Does anybody have an idea?
[08:17] <bazhang> apparle: you can look at packages.ubuntu.com
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> ibert: you could use login convenience in System Settings ;)
[08:18] <ardchoille> apparle: The problem is how do you know what the deps are? And, once you get the app to a diff computer, will you be lissing things on that box that you already had on the downloading box?
[08:19] <apparle> bazhang: i donot want to translate. i want English meanings of difficult english word and I will take care of dependencies. Don't worry about it
[08:19] <bazhang> apparle: ok--again, I would heed ardchoille's words on dependencies--a pandora's box waiting to happen there.
[08:21] <ardchoille> Right. Suppose appA needs depA1 and depA2. But the box you're downloading it on has depA1 and depA2, but the box at home (without internet) doesn't have those deps. You'll get home and realise you have to go back. How many apps are you going to have to do that for?
[08:23] <ardchoille> I suppose you could download all possible deps for every app you want and then take it all home on a dvd, but you could end up talking about hundreds of packages. That will consume a lot of time.
[08:24] <apparle> ardchoille: At home i make a list of dependencies on my home in  a text file. next i go to site and check which dep i have and which I donot have. By the way you only solved my problem by telling the command to make a list of installed packages on a PC
[08:25] <ardchoille> Ah, ok. That'll work if you're willing to go that route.
[08:26] <ardchoille> apparle: Also, is the download box yours?
[08:26] <stdin> apparle: at home do "apt-get --print-uris install <package>" to get a list of all the packages you need to download and what to save them as, then take that somewhere with net access and save, then move to /var/cache/apt/archives/ and "apt-get install <package>" at home
[08:27] <apparle> No it is a public box with Windows XP
[08:28] <ardchoille> apparle: If so, it'd be a whole lot easier and faster to just install all the apps you want on the download box, use PartImage to make an image of the root partition (takes about 10 minutes), burn that image to a dvd, take it home and install the image on the home box (takes about 10 minutes) so both boxes are identical.
[08:28] <ardchoille> ok
[08:28] <ardchoille> I use that method to make all 11 of my machines identical.
[08:28] <tv_> I'm trying to run BZFlag in kubuntu and get the error listed here.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45202/  Anyone with any help would be appriciated.
[08:28] <bazhang> nice
[08:29] <ardchoille> That way I only have to install and setup Kubuntu on the first box.
[08:29] <bazhang> nicer
[08:30] <ardchoille> Trust me, if there's a way to make things easier (and me lazier) I'll find it, lol
[08:30] <ayako> hi
[08:30] <bazhang> hehe
[08:30] <ayako> need serious help
[08:30] <apparle> both of you please tell me about the dictionary name and I will see the rest. By the way the download box is a college box with windows XP
[08:31] <ayako> in the add/remove programs
[08:31] <ayako> i get this message
[08:32] <ayako> aptitude or apt-get in use by another program, close that first,
[08:32] <apparle> ayako : Are you running adept
[08:32] <ayako> then when i try to i need a higher superlevel username
[08:32] <JackWinter> hiya, anyone know how to give jackd rt privs, starting it from qjackctl?
[08:32] <ayako> yes
[08:33] <ayako> i was using it to download programs for software development
[08:33] <bazhang> apparle: the only dictionary name I can see in apt-cache search is ydpdict--which is an interface for collins dictionaries
[08:33] <ardchoille> ayako: You can only run one package manager at a time. Close all others and try again.
[08:33] <bazhang> ie not translation
[08:33] <stdin> ayako: you can only have one package management application open at once
[08:33] <ayako> but did not complete and closed it
[08:33] <apparle> ayako: As stdin said
[08:34] <ayako> since then i get that message
[08:34] <ardchoille> !fixadept
[08:34] <stdin> !aptfix | ayako, use this command in konsole
[08:34] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[08:34] <ubotu> ayako, use this command in konsole: please see above
[08:34] <apparle> bazhang: ydpdict is surely offline???
[08:34] <ayako> how can i do a dpkg --configure -a
[08:35] <ardchoille> ayako: in a terminal
[08:35] <stdin> ayako: just copy and paste everything between '«' and '»'
[08:35] <ayako> thank you
[08:36] <ayako> you people are the best
[08:36] <ayako> i tried to ask my uni IT technician he said not uni computer cannot do anything
[08:37] <ayako> i need to go for now just woke up
[08:37] <ayako> plus theres something i got do
[08:37] <ayako> i will let you guys know what happens
[08:37] <ayako> see you later
[08:37] <JackWinter> anyone know where i can get some help for qjackctl & jackd running under kubuntu?
[08:39] <apparle> any one can help me about ati drivers
[08:39] <bazhang> apparle: wordnet seems to be what you are looking for; check this thread--http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=598282
[08:40] <ardchoille> !ati | apparle
[08:40] <ubotu> apparle: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:41] <JackWinter> i have linux-rt installed, but when i try to start jackd from qjackctl with rt support i get the following msg: cannot use real-time scheduling (FIFO at priority 10) [for thread -1210336576, from thread -1210336576] (1: Operation not permitted)
[08:42] <arash> JackWinter, Im not experienced , but at the sounds of 'Operation not permitted' it sounds like if you have to be root or something
[08:42] <JackWinter> i suppose it means that i need root privileges to gain access to the kernel?
[08:42] <apparle> ardchoille: You know my problem (no internet) tell me what to do for ati drivers
[08:42] <JackWinter> arash: i get the same feeling.
[08:43] <arash> JackWinter: so gksu doesn't work :p?
[08:43] <ardchoille> apparle: I don't know what to tell you about that, dude, you really need internet access.
[08:44] <ibert> I'm having a problem with Nvidia Geforce FX 5200. With gutsy, there are no VT's (worked fine with dapper). Neither with the binary driver nor with the nv driver. Another Problem is at Startup that the login Screen doesn't appear alone. I have to press "Ctrl-Alt-Delete" and then XServer restarts and the graphic-logon appears. Does anybody have an idea?
[08:44] <JackWinter> don't know what it is.  used to run freebsd some years ago, but a lot has changed since then.  i'll go experiment with gksu ;-)
[08:45] <arash> JackWinter: you type 'gksu <application-name>'  and then the application will run with root privileges, gksu can be replaced with gksudo, But I'm a noob really :), dont expect it to work hehe, well I gotta go to school now
[08:45] <apparle> ardchoille: I managed to get it done on feisty. How to do it on gutsy
[08:45] <se7en__> ibert: that
[08:45] <se7en__> strange i have the same card
[08:46] <JackWinter> gksu seems not to be in my path, nor do i find a man entry for it?  please excuse i installed kubuntu for the first time last night. alot to learn...
[08:46] <JackWinter> thanks arash
[08:46] <apparle> how to get kaffiene play diffrent video formats on gutsy
[08:46] <arash> JackWinter: did it work :D ?
[08:47] <bazhang> apparle: with or without net access?
[08:48] <apparle> bazhang: Isn't it obvious without net tell mewhich.deb
[08:49] <bazhang> apparle: care to join me in #kubuntu-offtopic?
[08:49] <arash> JackWinter: Either way I really hope it did :p since I have to be at school in ten minutes XD
[08:49] <JackWinter> arash: installing as we chat ;-)
[08:50] <JackWinter> thanks alot arash
[08:50] <arash> JackWinter: ok, REALLY leaving now :)
[08:51] <ibert> se7en__: and you don't have these problems?
[08:51] <apparle> bazhang: how to ? I don't know how to use IRC network
[08:51] <bazhang> apparle type /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:52] <ibert> se7en__: could you paste your kernel arguments?
[08:52] <se7en__> ibert: how do i do that?
[08:54] <ibert> cat /boot/grub/menu.lst|grep kernel
[08:54] <ibert> then you see the kernel lines of your boot proces. mark and copy the first line
[08:55] <ibert> and paste it in http://pastebin.com/
[08:57] <se7en__> ibert: http://pastebin.com/m6953479
[08:57] <ibert> se7en__: thanx
[08:58] <ibert> se7en__: you don't have these problems I have?
[09:00] <se7en__> ibert: no problems here works out of the box with nv and nvidia install is no problem
[09:00] <ibert> se7en__: DVI or VGA?
[09:01] <apparle> how to install latest ATI drivers from ati.amd.com on gutsy.  there is nothing here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:01] <JackWinter> how do i  run this command with gksu: gksu /usr/bin/jackd -R -P50 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o18gksu /usr/bin/jackd -R -P50 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o18
[09:01] <JackWinter> something is wrong with my syntax?
[09:03] <bazhang> in kubuntu is gksu?
[09:03] <bazhang> I thought it was kdesu
[09:05] <JackWinter> i was told to get gksu?  should i try kdesu?  i thin there is something wrong with my syntax, maybe a parameter or quotes  missing
[09:06] <bazhang> gksu is for ubuntu I believe (gnome)
[09:06] <stdin> and you pasted the command twice
[09:06] <bazhang> as far as the rest, I'd wait for an expert opinion
[09:07] <JackWinter> thanks, will try kdesu
[09:07] <JackWinter> yes twice, but it's the second line i'm trying to exec
[09:07] <JackWinter> gksu /usr/bin etc.
[09:08] <stdin> JackWinter: it'd be "gksu /usr/bin/jackd -R -P50 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o1" not "gksu /usr/bin/jackd -R -P50 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o1gksu /usr/bin/jackd -R -P50 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o1"
[09:08] <spiroo> Sorry I ask again on this channel, but I think the problem is grub/kubuntu. When I restart my computer monitor sometimes blinks directly and sometimes it starts to blink when grub shall start. It always happens when rebooting and if I then shut power off and wait awhile it works. I am not sure if it is power supply, monitor, graphics or software.
[09:08] <stdin> add an 8 on the end actually :p
[09:09] <aasi> where is the keymap for ubuntu found?
[09:09] <aasi> in /etc somewhere?
[09:10] <JackWinter> stdin: that's what i tried wo the quotes.  my keyboard is very sensitive.  still have to set that up it seems.
[09:10] <spiroo> I want to know if I shall remove Kubuntu or buy some piece of hardware
[09:11] <aasi> would anyone be able to tell me right quick?
[09:11] <aasi> !keymap
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keymap - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:11] <aasi> !keyboard
[09:11] <ubotu> To switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[09:11] <spiroo> When I come to operative system there is no problem, except that sometimes picture freeze on monitor when I watch video in Kaffeine
[09:13] <spiroo> This problem when monitor blinks happen most repeatedly after I installed Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy.
[09:14] <JackWinter> ok got it. "kdesu -c "/usr/bin/jackd -R -P0 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o18" "  thanks alot for the help
[09:15] <spiroo> Would appreciate if someone know anything :)
[09:19] <spiroo> There is around 300 persons here, does not anyone know?
[09:19] <JackWinter> is there a way to run kdesu -c wo using quotes around the command? the problem is that i use an app called qjackctl, to start jackd, and i don't seem to be able to get the last quote parsed in.  means that kdesu will pick up arguments of jackd as its own..
[09:21] <apparle> !codec
[09:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:21] <stdin> JackWinter: just take off the -c
[09:22] <bazhang> spiroo: have you checked at ubuntuforums.org? while someone may not know at the moment, that is a good place to start
[09:23] <JackWinter> if i  try "kdesu /usr/bin/jackd -R -P0 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o18 " then kdesu  will complain about an invalid argument -R
[09:23] <stdin> JackWinter: you can also try: kdesu -- command --with -args
[09:24] <spiroo> bazhang, Do you have to be a member there?
[09:26] <bazhang> spiroo: to post yes; to browse no--very easy and free to join though
[09:27] <bazhang> spiroo: 90% of problems I have I get them fixed there--the remaining ones I come here for--very informative site
[09:31] <JackWinter> if i  try "kdesu /usr/bin/jackd -R -P0 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o18 " then kdesu  will complain about an invalid argument -R
[09:31] <JackWinter> disregard above please.
[09:32] <JackWinter> I guess i have to go and study ;-)  is there a root account in ubuntu?
[09:32] <waylandbill> !root
[09:32] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:32] <Navi00> Woooo! Go Kubuntu! Yeah!
[09:33] <waylandbill> the answer is yes. There is a root account. There pretty much has to be. That doesn't mean it's use is necessarily needed.
[09:34] <WaltzingAlong> JackWinter: otherwise kdesu "/usr/bin/jackd -R -P0 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o18"
[09:34] <WaltzingAlong> its*
[09:37] <skurakai> hi. i'am beginner with kubuntu. can you help me?
[09:38] <bazhang> skurakai: what's your question?
[09:38] <skurakai> i try change default OS in grub but it send me some error code
[09:38] <JackWinter> ok, guess i'm still confused from my freebsd days, where i was root occasionally.  i can live with sudo ;-)
[09:38] <skurakai> help.ubuntu.com/community/grubhowto/changedefaultos
[09:39] <skurakai> this manual doesn't work :(
[09:39] <ardchoille> JackWinter: There is a root account, but it's disabled. Because of the sudo model, logging into the root account is really not necessary
[09:41] <skurakai> can you help me?
[09:41] <skurakai> terminal wrote me: cp: cannot stat `/boot/grub/menu.1st': No such file or directory
[09:41] <skurakai> i try backup menu.1st
[09:41] <Jucato> skurakai: it's menu.lst not menu.1st
[09:41] <JackWinter> tried the following: "sudo /usr/bin/jackd -R -P0 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o18", the result was: "cannot use real-time scheduling (FIFO at priority 0) [for thread -1237984368, from thread -1237984368] (22: Invalid argument)" i'm pretty sure the cmaand is correct for jackd.  since sudo did not complain i'm pretty sure it was executed as superuser.  any ideas?
[09:42] <Jucato> skurakai: that's a small letter L
[09:42] <skurakai> oh my god :D
[09:42] <skurakai> i'am lamer
[09:42] <ardchoille> lol
[09:46] <WaltzingAlong> menu list not menu first
[09:46] <sjck> anyone got ut3? :P
[09:47] <bazhang> sjck: the game?
[09:47] <sjck> yea
[09:47] <bazhang> problems with wine?
[09:48] <sjck> nah, I dont even got it.. but a friend said you cant change controls in menu wonder if thats true
[09:48] <sjck> google helps shit :/
[09:48] <skurakai> thanks all - i try update my grub :)
[09:49] <JackWinter> any idea where to go for help with qjackctl, jackd & linux-rt in kubuntu?
[09:49] <bazhang> please watch the language sjck
[09:49] <sjck> that was too foul? :<
[09:49] <bazhang> JackWinter: perhaps in #linuxhelp?
[09:50] <bazhang> yep
[09:50] <JackWinter> what server?
[09:50] <bazhang> !irc
[09:50] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[09:51] <bazhang> not sure there JackWinter but likely this one
[09:51] <smorg> Hi, I'm running gentoo with kde and am trying to get sudo set up so that it works with similar behavior as it does with ubuntu. Is there a place to find those sudoers config files? or how ubuntu generates them?
[09:51] <newguyss> hi, is there any tool I can use to georeference images?
[09:52] <bazhang> smorg: have you asked in #gentoo?
[09:52] <JackWinter> thanks bazhang!
[09:52] <bazhang> no problem :}
[09:52] <se7en_> JackWinter: i think in mediaubuntu or studio 64 jackd is enabled by default
[09:52] <smorg> no, I checked all the gentoo wikis and sudo documentation. I guess I could just learn the sudo config syntax. (sounds like fun!)
[09:52] <bazhang> newguyss: what do you mean by geo reference images?
[09:53] <Jucato> smorg: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Disable_root_password_and_gain_su_sudo_with_no_password
[09:53] <Jucato> the bottom instructins
[09:53] <bazhang> smorg: it's not too hard--believe me :}
[09:53] <smorg> sweet :D
[09:53] <JackWinter> se7en: i just installed kubuntu, am not gonna give up that easy ;-)
[09:54] <Jucato> smorg: you also have to setup kdesu to use sudo instead of su
[09:54] <bazhang> JackWinter: ubuntu studio might have it all by default as well
[09:55] <newguyss> bazhang: to use the image as map it needs to be geo referenced.
[09:55] <bazhang> newguyss: ok--so like google earth?
[09:56] <newguyss> not exactly, but similar, I have image and when I gdlainfo the image i done get geo referencing
[09:56] <newguyss> the geo referenced images returns something like that
[09:56] <newguyss> Corner Coordinates:
[09:56] <newguyss> Upper Left  ( -79.0000000,  25.0000000) ( 79d 0'0.00"W, 25d 0'0.00"N)
[09:56] <newguyss> Lower Left  ( -79.0000000,  23.0000000) ( 79d 0'0.00"W, 23d 0'0.00"N)
[09:58] <ayako> hi
[10:00] <apparle> anybody has foxconn motherboard here
[10:01] <Lamartin> hi all. Can anybody help me with a replication issue with (k) ubuntu ?
[10:03] <WaltzingAlong> Lamartin: which is
[10:03] <ayako> anyone know where i can download clisp and freemind and emacs for kubuntu
[10:03] <WaltzingAlong> ayako: freemind from freemind.sf.net
[10:03] <Jucato> !info freemind
[10:03] <WaltzingAlong> !find emacs
[10:04] <ubotu> Package freemind does not exist in gutsy
[10:04] <ubotu> Found: emacs-goodies-el, emacsen-common, acl2-emacs, aleph-emacs, cxref-emacs (and 53 others)
[10:04] <Jucato> oh I see
[10:04] <Lamartin> WaltzingAlong: i have an Ubuntu model machine. I am used to rsync that model machines on many identical target machines (using rsync)
[10:04] <Lamartin> WaltzingAlong: it worked fine with debian
[10:04] <ayako> where do type !find freemind and !find emacs
[10:04] <Lamartin> WaltzingAlong: now, with (k)ubuntu, the boot process stops at "Starting kernel log daemon"
[10:05] <WaltzingAlong> ayako: right here. just put them at the front of the lines. HOWEVER use /msg ubotu !find freemind
[10:05] <ardchoille> ayako: In your irc client
[10:05] <WaltzingAlong> !msgthebot | ayako
[10:05] <ubotu> ayako: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[10:05] <Lamartin> WaltzingAlong: (i changed the UUID settings in /etc/fstab)
[10:05] <apparle> anybody good at handling sound problems
[10:06] <Lamartin> WaltzingAlong: can u help me ?
[10:06] <WaltzingAlong> Lamartin: if you think the issue is the uuid, you could run blkid to get the uuid numbers or just revert back to /dev/sda1 and the like
[10:07] <Lamartin> WaltzingAlong: no, i am 100% sure it's not an UUID issue
[10:08] <ayako> i have problem listening to music with headphones
[10:08] <Lamartin> WaltzingAlong: if i skip that step (exit 0 in the init.d/klogd file), next process would result in the same "freeze" (boot process, not machine)
[10:09] <WaltzingAlong> Lamartin: i do not know
[10:09] <Lamartin> WaltzingAlong: ok, thanks anyway
[10:10] <ayako> the laptop speaker is being used can not hear anything with headphones
[10:13] <ayako> guys
[10:14] <ayako> anybody there
[10:14] <bazhang> hi
[10:14] <ayako> i know anyone is busy
[10:15] <ayako> but im new to kubuntu
[10:15] <apparle> how to install modem
[10:15] <bazhang> ayako: try launching alsamixer from Konsole
[10:15] <ayako> how
[10:15] <ayako> what is the code
[10:15] <apparle> ayako: alsamixer
[10:15] <bazhang> ayako: open the Konsole and type alsamixer
[10:16] <ayako> got it
[10:16] <ayako> now what\
[10:16] <bazhang> ayako: what is your sound card?
[10:16] <apparle> how to install an internal modem
[10:16] <ayako> VIA 8237
[10:17] <bazhang> apparle: hardware?
[10:17] <apparle> HSP70
[10:17] <bazhang> ayako: is that onboard or pci
[10:17] <ayako> chip is Realtek ALC655 rev 0
[10:17] <bazhang> pci then
[10:17] <bazhang> apparle: hardware or software?
[10:17] <ayako> on board
[10:18] <bazhang> oops
[10:18] <bazhang> ayako: what does aplay -l say?
[10:19] <ayako> nothing
[10:19] <apparle> bazhang: my friend installed gutsy yesterday. We opened KPPP and in 'modem panel' when we 'query modem' msg "unable to open modem"
[10:19] <ayako> just '' > ''
[10:21] <JackWinter> any idea which channel is for supporting jack under ubuntu>
[10:22] <apparle> bazhang: my friend installed gutsy yesterday. We opened KPPP and in 'modem panel'. When we 'query modem' msg "unable to open modem"
[10:22] <bazhang> ayako: so card is not recognized--just a moment, finding the proper link
[10:22] <ayako> is there anything i can do
[10:22] <ayako> thank you very very much
[10:22] <bazhang> apparle: without net access again?
[10:24] <apparle> bazhang: first> this is my friend's problem not mine, second> trying to get net access by installing modem
[10:25] <stdin> apparle: seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto ?
[10:26] <se7en_> JackWinter: #ubuntustudio, #ubuntustudio-es and #ubuntustudio-fr on irc.freenode.net
[10:27] <stdin> you are on irc.freenode.net
[10:27] <neville> Hey, I have a winmodem
[10:28] <neville> Not the same type as yours
[10:28] <neville> But
[10:28] <neville> I used this tool
[10:28] <ayako> bazhang: you know alot about ubuntu/kubuntu
[10:28] <omnag> Bonjour à tous !
[10:28] <stdin> !fr
[10:28] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:29] <bazhang> ayako: not really--just know how to search ubuntuforums.org and google :} 90% of problems solved there
[10:29] <omnag> thanks ;)
[10:30] <ayako> still you need to be able to use the right search terms/phrases
[10:30] <ayako> to get any kind of result
[10:30] <neville> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/linmodems/index.html#scanModem
[10:30] <omnag> can someone help me please ?
[10:30] <stdin> omnag: you have to ask a question first
[10:31] <bazhang> ayako: they seem to be eluding me for the moment--will check for a bit longer--so excuse my absence :}
[10:31] <omnag> ok
[10:31] <Chimplato> hi
[10:31] <ayako> no thank you for helping and the hardwork and effort your putting in
[10:31] <ayako> this is something i should resolve myself but
[10:31] <omnag> I have installed linux on laptop and it s great but iiii want to put my drivers
[10:32] <ayako> i dont know how thats why i asked for help
[10:32] <omnag> but they will be installed only with xp
[10:32] <stdin> omnag: drivers for what?
[10:32] <omnag> i have a cd driver for the hardware
[10:32] <omnag> wifi etc
[10:32] <stdin> does the wifi work ?
[10:32] <omnag> but it only work with xp
[10:33] <omnag> i dont test
[10:33] <stdin> linux normally has drivers with it, no need for a cd
[10:33] <stdin> test it and see
[10:33] <omnag> ahhh ok
[10:33] <stdin> also...
[10:33] <stdin> !wifi
[10:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:33] <omnag> so i dont need to install drivers ?
[10:34] <omnag> for anything ? because when i reboot xp i must install drivers with the cd
[10:34] <stdin> omnag: windows drivers don't work with linux, but most things have drivers included. for things that don't there are guides like the link above
[10:34] <omnag> ok
[10:34] <stdin> linux works with most thing from starting, no need to setup after install
[10:36] <omnag> thak you much =very
[10:36] <omnag> very much
[10:36] <stdin> :)
[10:40] <apparle> I have ATI IXP SB450 . no sound mixer
[10:44] <dm> Hello. I use Konqueror for file browsing. When opening a new Konqueror window in an NFS nounted directory I can not see all files there immediately. I must do a manual reload. How can I avoid this behaviour?
[10:46] <apparle> stdin: I can hear sound only when I install OSS drivers but ALSA drivers donot work for me
[10:46] <apparle> why
[10:47] <stdin> I don't know, my sound has always just worked
[10:47] <stdin> (probably because the official intel drivers are open-source)
[10:47] <apparle>  I can hear sound only when I install OSS drivers but ALSA drivers donot work for me. Anybody knows why
[10:48] <apparle> stdin: I have ATI IXP SB450 card
[10:50] <bazhang> ayako: this is the link--http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[10:50] <ayako> what do i do with that
[10:51] <bazhang> ayako: read it?
[10:51] <apparle> bye everybody
[10:51] <bazhang> bye
[10:51] <apparle> thanks bazhang and stdin
[10:51] <stdin> bye
[10:52] <bazhang> apparle: see you later :}
[10:56] <frojnd> where can I see log file from ubuntu reboot ? because I get some note that network sensors fail ?? so what's the name of that kinda log, when ubuntu is starting before it gets to login screen ??
[10:58] <stdin> frojnd: /var/log/dmesg /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kernlog are the best ones to look at
[10:59] <frojnd> stdin, than
[10:59] <frojnd> x
[11:02] <frojnd> stdin, that's weired
[11:02] <frojnd> I haven't found anything abiut sensors or fail in bouth 3
[11:02] <frojnd> all 3*
[11:03] <stdin> you can always try the all-powerful grep, something like: grep -R "a string I'm looking for" /var/log 2>/dev/null
[11:03] <stdin> that'll search all files in /var/log for "a string I'm looking for"
[11:04] <stdin> (and the 2>/dev/null redirects all error messages to /dev/null, so they don't show)
[11:09] <frojnd> what does 2>/dev/null means
[11:09] <luigi> aiuto nn mi apre hotmail
[11:09] <frojnd> oh..
[11:09] <frojnd> u allready said it :)
[11:09] <luigi> aiuto nn mi apre hotmail
[11:10] <frojnd> luigi #ubuntu.it #ubuntu-it
[11:10] <luigi> aiuto nn mi apre hotmail
[11:10] <frojnd> or is it spam
[11:15] <frojnd> stdin, /dev/null is some temporarly directory?
[11:15] <stdin> frojnd: no, it's "null",
[11:15] <frojnd> nothing
[11:15] <frojnd> zero
[11:15] <stdin> think of it like a black-hole
[11:15] <frojnd> ?
[11:15] <frojnd> oh..
[11:15] <frojnd> ok
[11:15] <stdin> anything can go in, nothing can come out
[11:16] <frojnd> that's more good fo an explanation :)
[11:16] <frojnd> kewl :D
[11:16] <frojnd> so maybe we could put in all the bad code :D
[11:16] <stdin> send all complaints to /dev/null :)
[11:16] <dm> Hello. I use Konqueror for file browsing. When opening a new Konqueror window in an NFS nounted directory I can not see all files there immediately. I must do a manual reload. How can I avoid this behaviour?
[11:17] <frojnd> yes but does this solves the problem stdin, will the next time be my boot time faster and without those fail messages?
[11:18] <stdin> frojnd: depends on the messages, you use grep to find the log with info about it to fix it
[11:18] <frojnd> stdin, I get message like *sensors                               [fail]
[11:18] <frojnd> ndiswrappere load                                                                 [ok]
[11:18] <frojnd> ...
[11:18] <frojnd> and like this
[11:18] <stdin> ahh, that's a service
[11:18] <frojnd> yeah
[11:19] <stdin> that won't really effect boot time, maybe by a few milliseconds
[11:19] <frojnd> but why it doesn't load sensors
[11:20] <frojnd> cause I have one biger problem than this, and this is maye connected with it
[11:20] <frojnd> after I type in my user name and password in gnome login menu
[11:20] <frojnd> it needs like 3-5mins to load all the icons...
[11:20] <stdin> probably because your hardware needs some special driver to read the sensor data
[11:20] <stdin> that wouldn't be related to sensors
[11:20] <frojnd> stdin, where can I check for this
[11:20] <frojnd> oh :(
[11:21] <stdin> sensors read mostly just the temperature and fan speed
[11:22] <frojnd> stdin, well that's ok, since I have laptop and at high work of my bad code T can ARISE :D
[11:22] <ayako> hi
[11:22] <stdin> with good acpi support you don't need the sensors service to reed CPU temp
[11:22] <ayako> i am getting the following error message
[11:23] <frojnd> stdin, what is acpi ?
[11:23] <ayako> sub-process /usr/bin/dpke error code 1
[11:23] <ayako> cannot find build essential
[11:23] <frojnd> ayako: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:23] <ayako> usr/bin/dpke reconfigure: alsa-source not installed
[11:23] <ayako> yes
[11:24] <stdin> frojnd: acpi is a standard way for the operating system to interface with the power and configuration hardware (for example suspend/resume)
[11:24] <ayako> for the problem with using headphones
[11:25] <ayako> the ubuntu forum help advice failed
[11:26] <ayako> could not complete because of the above error messages
[11:26] <bazhang> ayako: tried installing alsa source?
[11:26] <ayako> yes that fails
[11:26] <bazhang> what is the error message with that?
[11:27] <ayako> get message asla-source not installed error code 1
[11:27] <stdin> and use pastebin
[11:27] <ayako> can you confirm the code for installing the alsa-source
[11:27] <ayako> just in case i did it wrong
[11:28] <oupa> !kde4
[11:28] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[11:29] <stdin> !alsa-source | ayako
[11:29] <ayako> bazhang i used this code: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) module-assistant alsa-source
[11:29] <ayako> !alsa-source
[11:29] <ayako> where
[11:29] <ubotu> ayako: Want to use alsa 0.11? Grab and install http://archive.progeny.com/debian/pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.11-2_all.deb, install linux-headers-$(uname -r) module-assistant and build-essential and run sudo module-assistant a-i alsa-source
[11:31] <ayako> build fails
[11:31] <ayako> tried that
[11:31] <ayako> installation fails too
[11:33] <waylandbill> ayako: what error does it give when it fails?
[11:34] <ayako> sound base not installed
[11:37] <ayako> sub-process usr/bin/dpkg error code 1
[11:37] <waylandbill> ayako: did the packages ubotu shows to install actually install or did they fail too?
[11:37] <ayako> also failed
[11:38] <waylandbill> ayako: did you try installing just one at a time, like just the linux headers?
[11:38] <ayako> how
[11:39] <ayako> what code
[11:40] <ayako> aplay -l picks up sound card
[11:40] <ayako> and sub-devices
[11:42] <waylandbill> ayako: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:42] <fryguy101> Okay, here's a fun one... Adept prompted me that Gutsy was out, and that I could upgrade... so I did, and now KDE doesn't work (It boots to command line, and startkde fails).
[11:42] <fryguy101> Any ideas?
[11:43] <waylandbill> fryguy101: there should be an error in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. It may give you a better idea of what has happened.
[11:44] <fryguy101> Thanks. I'll see what I can figure out... (Using live CD, only way I can get internet...)
[11:45] <waylandbill> fryguy101: you could always reconfigure the xserver to use vesa fallback driver until you have more info
[11:47] <ayako> returns error code 1
[11:48] <waylandbill> ayako: can you paste bin the output so there's some context and not just the return value?
[11:49] <ayako> how
[11:50] <waylandbill> ayako: copy it out of the terminal window and use a pastebin service
[11:50] <waylandbill> !paste
[11:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:50] <ayako> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:51] <WaltzingAlong> sudo aptitude -f install         or          sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:51] <stdin> ayako: post the whole of the output to pastebin, otherwise we can't really see what's happening
[11:53] <ayako> i am talking from another computer
[11:53] <ayako> kubuntu is on different computer
[11:53] <WaltzingAlong> ssh into it then you can copy/paste
[11:56] <WaltzingAlong> !info linux-backports-modules
[11:56] <ubotu> linux-backports-modules: Generic Linux backported drivers.. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.21 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB
[11:57] <fryguy0101> Okay... so the problem is definately not X. Nothing in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to suggest it. typing 'X' started a sucessful X session, but without KDE it was rather... pointless.
[11:57] <ayako> here is it
[11:57] <ayako> tsukimori@tsukimori-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:57] <ayako> Password:
[11:57] <ayako> Reading package lists... Done
[11:57] <ayako> Building dependency tree
[11:57] <ayako> Reading state information... Done
[11:57] <ayako> linux-headers-2.6.17-12-generic is already the newest version.
[11:57] <ayako> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:57] <ayako> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[11:57] <ayako> Need to get 0B of archives.
[11:58] <ayako> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[11:58] <ayako> Setting up graphviz-cairo (2.8-2) ...
[11:58] <ayako> /var/lib/dpkg/info/graphviz-cairo.postinst: 11: dot: not found
[11:58] <ayako> dpkg: error processing graphviz-cairo (--configure):
[11:58] <ayako>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
[11:58] <ayako> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:58] <ayako>  graphviz-cairo
[11:58] <ayako> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:58] <ayako> tsukimori@tsukimori-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:58] <ayako> Reading package lists... Done
[11:58] <ayako> Building dependency tree
[11:58] <ayako> Reading state information... Done
[11:58] <ayako> linux-headers-2.6.17-12-generic is already the newest version.
[11:58] <ayako> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:58] <ayako> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[11:58] <ayako> Need to get 0B of archives.
[11:58] <ayako> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[11:58] <ayako> Setting up graphviz-cairo (2.8-2) ...
[11:58] <ayako> /var/lib/dpkg/info/graphviz-cairo.postinst: 11: dot: not found
[11:58] <WaltzingAlong> ayako: for that you should use pastebin
[11:58] <ayako> dpkg: error processing graphviz-cairo (--configure):
[11:58] <bazhang> pastebin
[11:58] <ayako>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
[11:58] <ayako> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:58] <ayako>  graphviz-cairo
[11:58] <ayako> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:58] <ayako> tsukimori@tsukimori-laptop:~$
[11:58] <ayako> url - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45218/plain/
[11:59] <WaltzingAlong> ayako: sudo dpkg -r graphviz-cairo
[12:00] <ayako> message:  errors encountered while processing graphviz-cairo
[12:01] <fryguy0101> Hrm... should I just download the alternate install CD iso, and run it in rescue?
[12:02] <WaltzingAlong> fryguy0101: what was the issue?
[12:02] <fryguy0101> KDE won't start. No login screen, nothing.
[12:02] <WaltzingAlong> fryguy0101: always? recently? can you get into a terminal?
[12:02] <fryguy0101> X will happily start, but with no desktop environment it's not too helpful
[12:02] <fryguy0101> After the recent dist-upgrade
[12:03] <fryguy0101> it boots to terminal
[12:03] <WaltzingAlong> then does launching startkde give you the k desktop environment?
[12:03] <waylandbill> fryguy0101: did /var/log/Xorg.0.log show anything helpful?
[12:03] <fryguy0101> Nope, it fails
[12:03] <fryguy0101> Nope. Showed everything going fine.
[12:04] <waylandbill> ayako: I don't know how you got graphviz-cairo without dot. I'm sure it's a dependency.
[12:04] <ayako> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45219/
[12:05] <ayako> new url
[12:05] <waylandbill> fryguy0101: it didn't have stuff about not finding any screens?
[12:05] <ayako> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45219/
[12:05] <rysiek|pl> hi guys
[12:05] <fryguy0101> Nope.
[12:06] <rysiek|pl> will I get *any* help whatsoever with sopme strange compiz artifacts here? or should I got to *#compiz-fusion, etc?
[12:06] <WaltzingAlong> waylandbill: apparently X loads, just not kde
[12:06] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | rysiek|pl i would think elsewhere, like the channel and wiki for compiz
[12:07] <rysiek|pl> ok, thx
[12:07] <waylandbill> WaltzingAlong: oh ok. I thought it was just getting the VT login and nothing else.
[12:07] <ayako> do anything else i can try
[12:09] <WaltzingAlong> ayako: there are ways to force the issue
[12:09] <bazhang> heh
[12:12] <ayako> i got it work
[12:12] <ayako> just some changes in mixer
[12:13] <ayako> happend accidentally
[12:18] <luigi> hi all!
[12:19] <luigi> when i upgdate adept i have an error: another process is using the packaging system database....
[12:19] <luigi> what can i do?
[12:19] <stdin> !aptfix
[12:19] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[12:19] <WaltzingAlong> luigi: or close the other program using the db
[12:20] <JohnFlux> i wish someone would just fix apt
[12:21] <JohnFlux> several people a day have that problem
[12:21] <WaltzingAlong> JohnFlux: what is wrong with apt?
[12:21] <JohnFlux> WaltzingAlong: see ubotu's message
[12:22] <luigi> WaltzingAlong how can i close it using database?
[12:22] <JohnFlux> when a lock is made, the pid of the process should be recorded.  apt should then check if the database is locked, and if so check whether the process is still running
[12:22] <student_> siema
[12:22] <JohnFlux> luigi: read what ubotu said
[12:22] <F3000> Hello there. I've faced such a fancy problem with my Kubuntu, that adept manager stopped huge-scale updating while around 50% was updated because an error. Now I'm unable to continue the updating process, and the whole system seems to be (partially) screwed.
[12:22] <WaltzingAlong> yeah that seems like one way so
[12:22] <student_> co robicie cipki?
[12:22] <WaltzingAlong> F3000: open konsole. sudo aptitude -f install            what are the results?
[12:23] <flaccid> !xvid
[12:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:23] <student_> szpary brzydkie
[12:24] <student_> adriana  godzinami lizalbym ci stopy
[12:24] <F3000> 0 updates, 0 new installs, 0 removable and 0 updated. (raw translation)
[12:24] <WaltzingAlong> JohnFlux: though in some ways that should not really be apt's task, should it be
[12:24] <Prorok> hello
[12:24] <WaltzingAlong> F3000: ok how about sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:25] <JohnFlux> WaltzingAlong: sure it should be apt's task
[12:25] <F3000> I've done that.
[12:25] <KUPA> halooo
[12:25] <JohnFlux> WaltzingAlong: well, possibly dpkg's task
[12:25] <JohnFlux> WaltzingAlong: but either dpkg or apt
[12:25] <WaltzingAlong> JohnFlux: ;D
[12:25] <F3000> actually, it does nothing, when redone.
[12:25] <WaltzingAlong> F3000: ok and now adept manager does not open?
[12:25] <KUPA> prorok
[12:25] <KUPA> lalalala
[12:25] <Prorok> nom\?
[12:26] <ayako> thank you to Hazhang and WaltzingAlong
[12:26] <KUPA> znów kolacji nie bedzie tralalalalala
[12:26] <Prorok> hahha
[12:26] <ayako> for all the time and help you gave me
[12:26] <KUPA> cisniemy w cs'a
[12:26] <F3000> It does open.
[12:26] <KUPA> ?
[12:26] <flaccid> how do i get xvid codec on gutsy?
[12:26] <Prorok> tylko sie to wylaczy gówno ;P
[12:26] <KUPA> hehe
[12:26] <Jucato> KUPA, Prorok:  English only
[12:26] <ayako> sorry to have bothered to so much
[12:26] <WaltzingAlong> F3000: ok but you want to resume the upgrade from feisty to gutsy?
[12:26] <ayako> bye
[12:26] <WaltzingAlong> ayako: take care!
[12:26] <KUPA> oka sorry
[12:26] <ayako> you to
[12:27] <Prorok> OK, So Kupka can we play CS now ? ;p
[12:27] <F3000> It's not update from earlier version  to newer. It's more of "update after installing".
[12:27] <KUPA> I think we can
[12:27] <Jucato> not in here
[12:27] <F3000> I didn't have that PC connected to net while I made the install.
[12:27] <Prorok> c'mon lets do this :D
[12:27] <KUPA> o yeeeahh
[12:28] <KUPA> Prorok, Kiełbasa is whore
[12:28] <Prorok> How  edit color numbers in Linux Konsole?
[12:28] <F3000> Plus, I wanted to have finnish packages installed.
[12:28] <Jucato> !language | KUPA
[12:28] <ubotu> KUPA: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[12:28] <luigi> ubotu it krash again..
[12:29] <Jucato> luigi: ubotu is just a bot. it won't respond to you
[12:29] <Prorok> Do you know what "KUPA" means in polish?
[12:29] <Prorok> offensive name ^^
[12:29] <luigi> ohu.
[12:29] <F3000> everything went smooth with the update, until error. I got that error fixed with sudo dpkg --configure -a , but I can't continue the updating process that was aborted.
[12:29] <WaltzingAlong> F3000: ok then it should be able to grab the updates to the list and upgrade the packages. in konsole, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade        would do these two things
[12:30] <KUPA> 'KUPA' is 'kaka'
[12:30] <WaltzingAlong> !info language-support-fi | F3000 for finnish language support
[12:31] <ubotu> f3000 for finnish language support: language-support-fi: metapackage for Finnish language support. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.04+20070209 (gutsy), package size 2 kB, installed size 40 kB
[12:31] <luigi> someone here have a DELL INSPIRON 9400 with nvidia geforce go 7900 gs?
[12:32] <Prorok> i have only GForce 6600 GT ;/
[12:32] <luigi> i cannot put driver nvidia...
[12:32] <Prorok> hmm...
[12:32] <KUPA> i have GF 8500GT
[12:33] <F3000> WaltzingAlong: W: the upgrade command is deprecated; use "safe-upgrade" instead.
[12:33] <Prorok> o.O
[12:33] <F3000> Said console.
[12:33] <WaltzingAlong> F3000: (yes, thanks. aptitude with gutsy reports so - ok)
[12:34] <luigi> or better, i put driver, seem that it cath driver, but on rebooting it gon
[12:34] <luigi> it goes in safe mode..
[12:35] <luigi> how can i put nvidia driver?
[12:35] <dm> Hello. I use Konqueror for file browsing. When opening a new Konqueror window in an NFS nounted directory I can not see all files there immediately. I must do a manual reload. How can I avoid this behaviour?
[12:35] <WaltzingAlong> F3000: so that should install any upgrades to packages currently installed. you should be able to do the same from adept manager
[12:35] <WaltzingAlong> !nvidia | luigi. kmenu/system settings/advanced/restricted drivers  would be the easy way
[12:35] <ubotu> luigi. kmenu/system settings/advanced/restricted drivers  would be the easy way: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:36] <luigi> i'm not appy with restricted driver..
[12:36] <luigi> i want the latest by nvidia..
[12:37] <luigi> i wish...
[12:39] <WaltzingAlong> luigi: ok then the weblink i sent should describe how to do that as well
[12:39] <luigi> WaltzingAlong tanksssss
[12:41] <luigi> WaltzingAlong i already hawe it...
[12:41] <luigi> on 64 bit!
[12:42] <WaltzingAlong> luigi: ah 64bit :p ok. open konsole. wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-9755/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run; bash NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run;
[12:43] <luigi> WaltzingAlong wath's difference between restricted and latest driver by nvidia?
[12:43] <capagira> Hi there