[04:07] <dutch> Shak-: as long as you KNOW you dont want to edit the binary with a hex editor, then i dont think theres much you can do.
[04:07] <riegersn> crap, im gonna have to use my windows box
[04:07] <bazhang> Shak-, game editor or other please specify
[04:07] <tanath> jhb1608: have you tried kdissert?
[04:07] <riegersn> russ, don't care if its 'good' lol, just need some chapters ;)
[04:07] <Sydero> riegersn: why not check synaptic
[04:07] <Shak-> bazhang: plist, its some config file format that apple uses on their products, its like xml but much more retarded
[04:08] <russ> riegersn, can you create a document in OpenOffice or in TeX with chapters and bookmarks, and then export to pdf? just guessing here.
[04:08] <riegersn> Sydero, installed them all, none of them support creating chapters
[04:08] <Sydero> :/
[04:08] <bazhang> Shak-, what is the purpose of editing this plist? maybe there is another way to do it
[04:08] <jhb1608> weird.
[04:08] <riegersn> russ, tried that as well, OO gives you the option but when you open them up in adobe reader, no chapters found
[04:08] <dutch> anyone here use nvidia-settings and have trouble changing their resolution?
[04:08] <Shak-> bazhang: nah I need to get into it directly and add some lines for a mod im working on (for my iphone)
[04:09] <guest808080> Shak you could try PListEdit-Pro (FatCatSoftware) or PListEdit (RixStep)but you have to pay for them
[04:09] <debian_akroyd> dutch, i did too, but i just use ubuntus resolution switcher now and it works fine on my card
[04:09] <russ> riegersn, that is one of the high priority projects for the FSF. Maybe we should send them some money.
[04:09] <bazhang> Shak-, not really an ubuntu issue; you might check lifehacker.com and see if they have something
[04:09] <gene2> is there a channel where some technical talk occurs?
[04:09] <guest1> hello i am new
[04:09] <gene2> or this is the only channel with people crying about how they don't know how to use linux?
[04:10] <jhb1608> lol.
[04:10] <riegersn> dutch, i just installed ubuntu on my laptop (again), this time around i noticed that nvidia-settings would only give me 1 option for resolution, used to be 2-3 usable options
[04:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> !attitude | gene2
[04:10] <dutch> debian_akroyd: ah, interesting. back when i was using VGA, only nvidia-settings would work. now that im using DVI, i figured i should use it as well
[04:10] <debian_akroyd> gene2, welcome to the list lol
[04:10] <dutch> debian_akroyd: ill try that out
[04:10] <bazhang> !irc | gene2 check this list at the end
[04:10] <jhb1608> I know linux, but just get confused with linux a lot
[04:10] <szal> gene2: define 'technical talk'
[04:10] <Shak-> bazhang: its more linux as I cant find a suitable editor (there are windows applications that can open it)
[04:10] <Blaqlight> gene2: good way to get people to help you
[04:10] <riegersn> russ, yes shame though, this doesn't help tonight
[04:10] <Shak-> guest808080: the first one looks like its just for os x
[04:10] <Sydero> gene2: try irc.astalavista.net
[04:10] <debian_akroyd> dutch, well i use vga on my nvidia...idk maybe you will have some luck
[04:10] <irisht> riegersn: have you tried Open Office? Supposedly it will generate table of contents correctly. Not sure about bookmarks though.
[04:10] <jhb1608> Hm....
[04:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> gene2: if you have a question, ask.  or were you never a new user?  perhaps you came out of the womb with guru-like knowledge of linux?
[04:10] <bazhang> Shak-, but not a ubuntu support issue, more of a chat item; please take to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:11] <riegersn> russ, oh well, time to fire up the old windows box
[04:11] <guest1> please help me i have a usb dongle wireless wli-u2-kg54l ---- and linux  hardy heron
[04:11] <jhb1608> Can I install labyrinth 0.4.1 maunally?
[04:11] <Shak-> bazhang: k
[04:11] <Sydero> and guest1?
[04:11] <guest1> yes
[04:11] <Sydero> jhb1608: use apt-get to upgrade
[04:11] <debian_akroyd> guest1, ok..
[04:11] <gene2> I asked a few times, I understand this is all volunteer talk and all
[04:11] <Sydero> if it's available
[04:11] <jhb1608> tried that
[04:11] <russ> riegersn, well try to limit it then.
[04:11] <jhb1608> 0 updated
[04:11] <tanath> jhb1608: if you can find the .deb for it
[04:11] <guest1> please thanks
[04:11] <riegersn> russ, lol always
[04:11] <debian_akroyd> guest1, i have a wireless linksys usb54gsc
[04:11] <jhb1608> Hm.
[04:11] <jhb1608> I only found tar of it
[04:11] <guest1> BUFFALO wli-u2-kg54l
[04:11] <gene2> There is a udev rule in 20-names.rules
[04:12] <gene2> SUBSYSTEM!="dvb", GOTO="dvb_end" IMPORT{program}="dvb_device_name --export %k" ENV{DVB_ADAPTER}=="?*", ENV{DVB_DEV}=="?*", NAME="dvb/adapter$env{DVB_ADAPTER}/$env{DVB_NAME}" LABEL="dvb_end"
[04:12] <tanath> jhb1608: well, that would work too, though it's better to use the package system
[04:12] <guest1> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/zd1211rw/AddID
[04:12] <jhb1608> I agree.
[04:12] <tanath> jhb1608: a .deb would be better
[04:12] <Sydero> jhb: sure update by hand
[04:12] <gene2> Does anyone have an idea how to make sure when this rule is run that the adapter # is 5 or higher?
[04:12] <jhb1608> how?
[04:12] <jhb1608> so I know it is updated.
[04:12] <Atomicsunset> is there a compiz fusion channel or can i ask freely in here?
[04:12] <tanath> jhb1608: i've been using kdissert though, and i've found it to the best mind-mapping tool. have you tried it?
[04:12] <bazhang> Atomicsunset, both
[04:12] <wishie> is there a way to mount network shares ONLY if im on my HOME network ?
[04:12] <guest1> root@ubuntu:/home/guest1# lsusb
[04:12] <guest1> Bus 005 Device 009: ID 0411:0100 MelCo., Inc.
[04:12] <jhb1608> Nope
[04:12] <Sydero> OMG there are too many people talking :(
[04:13] <jhb1608> can it handle .mapz format?
[04:13] <Atomicsunset> bah i meant avan
[04:13] <Blaqlight> Sydero: to stop them talking so fast, scroll up.
[04:13] <szal> Sydero: what do you expect in a channel w/ >1200 ppl? o0
[04:13] <debian_akroyd> Sydero, thats why we pm each other if the problem is that critical. plus we use their names at the beginning of the line so we know who were tlaking too
[04:13] <Atomicsunset> i was wanting the mac style menu at the bottom screen
[04:13] <debian_akroyd> to*
[04:13] <russ> surely you're joking mr. gene2
[04:13] <bazhang> !awn | Atomicsunset
[04:13] <irisht> riegersn: If that doesn't work you might just have to get yourself a copy of the Adobe tools. There are several programming APIs that will do what you want, but doesn't sound like you want to be writing software to get this done. :-)
[04:13] <Shak-> bazhang: got it - http://scw.us/iPhone/plutil/ - not a clean solution but it'll work
[04:13] <tanath> jhb1608: doesn't look like it. supports .kdi, .mm, and .kno
[04:13] <Atomicsunset> but all i can get is a similar style that displays what windows i currently have open
[04:14] <bazhang> Shak-, nice work
[04:14] <jhb1608> it is ok
[04:14] <jhb1608> is it is easy to use?
[04:14] <Blaqlight> !pm | debian_akroyd
[04:14] <tanath> jhb1608: but i just checked out labyrinth when you mentioned it, and it doesn't have as many features
[04:14] <tanath> jhb1608: yep
[04:14] <Atomicsunset> i was under the impression that u could use it like a quick launch bar
[04:14] <bazhang> Atomicsunset, that is awn
[04:14] <debian_akroyd> well im saying if its that critical
[04:14] <riegersn> irisht, not really i need this tomorrow for work. oh well
[04:14] <Atomicsunset> im using awn i believe
[04:14] <jhb1608> ok I'll try it now :)
[04:14] <debian_akroyd> ive had some people pm me because it was that critical of a problem
[04:14] <tech0007> Atomicsunset: check the wiki http://wiki.awn-project.org/
[04:14] <Atomicsunset> is there a difference between awn and advan
[04:14] <timlarson_> I pasted into a Terminal that was in a ssh session running vi in screen and this froze *all* the terminal windows...what to do?
[04:14] <Atomicsunset> k thank you
[04:15] <debian_akroyd> and I was the only one that was helping
[04:15] <jhb1608> I just want to tell you, I love Ubuntu!
[04:15] <tanath> jhb1608: btw, apparently kdissert is being 'discontinued'/renamed to semantik
[04:15] <irisht> riegersn: Definitely give OO a try.
[04:15] <bazhang> Atomicsunset, avant window navigator = awn
[04:15] <gene2> See, once I ask something outside how to mount nfs...
[04:15] <jhb1608> it's ok
[04:15] <will00> now it returns the error (98
[04:15] <jhb1608> I'll try it anyways
[04:15] <tanath> jhb1608: but i imagine the package will update to point to it at that time
[04:15] <Blaqlight> jhb1608: ubuntu with fluxbox.
[04:15] <tanath> jhb1608: yeah, i still use it
[04:15] <tanath> jhb1608: me too :P
[04:15] <Adondai> is there something to set up battery profiles in ubunut?
[04:15] <]jett[> is it possible to mount multiple partitions as one logical mount point?
[04:15] <jhb1608> how do I get fluxbox?
[04:15] <gene2> apt-get install fluxbox
[04:16] <tanath> jhb1608: just like everything else :P
[04:16] <will00> ) address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>:80 no listening sockets available
[04:16] <debian_akroyd> imho flux is awsome
[04:16] <bazhang> jhb1608, install from repos
[04:16] <tanath> jhb1608: it's in the repos
[04:16] <jhb1608> oh thanks
[04:16] <gene2> change your X default
[04:16] <gene2> and use it
[04:16] <gene2> omg
[04:16] <jhb1608> I will in a moment when it is done installing the another mind mapping
[04:16] <jhb1608> and fluxbox too :)
[04:16] <irisht> ]jett[: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Volume_Manager_(Linux)
[04:16] <guest1> this is useless here - is it possible to get help?
[04:16] <Blaqlight> gene2: its a support channel what did you expect man calm down.
[04:16] <bazhang> guest1, for what
[04:16] <gene2> guest1: probably
[04:16] <szal> will00: that address just gotta be wrong..
[04:16] <guest1> root@ubuntu:/home/guest1# lsusb
[04:16] <guest1> Bus 005 Device 009: ID 0411:0100 MelCo., Inc.
[04:17] <guest1> usb wireless
[04:17] <gene2> Blaq: sorry udev got me all massed up
[04:17] <will00> szal, what do you mean by wrong?
[04:17] <gene2> Blaq: I'm about to rewrite these rules
[04:17] <szal> will00: <IP_ADDRESS> is not a routable IP
[04:17] <gene2> guest1: and?
[04:17] <guest1> root@ubuntu:/home/guest1# lsusb
[04:17] <guest1> Bus 005 Device 009: ID 0411:0100 MelCo., Inc.
[04:17] <will00> szal, thats what the error says
[04:18] <jhb1608> I only find is AllTray, none is fluxbox
[04:18] <guest1> hardy heron does not see it
[04:18] <Blaqlight> jhb1608: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[04:18] <tanath> jhb1608: you using synaptic?
[04:18] <timlarson_> anyone have experience with all terminal windows freezing at once?
[04:18] <jhb1608> yes
[04:18] <tanath> jhb1608: have all the repos enabled?
[04:18] <Blaqlight> jhb1608: or search for fluxbox in synaptic
[04:18] <jhb1608> yes
[04:18] <jhb1608> I'll do it in text mode
[04:18] <jhb1608> easier
[04:19] <debian_akroyd> not me ever since i upgraded the kernel
[04:19] <bazhang> !info fluxbox
[04:19] <tanath> jhb1608: then you should be able to find it with a search. check the drop down list when searching
[04:19] <jhb1608> yay
[04:19] <jhb1608> installing
[04:19] <jhb1608> :)
[04:19] <guest1> wli-u2-kg54l USB BUFFALO
[04:19] <bazhang> guest1, is that realtek?
[04:19] <gene2> guest1: which module is loaded where you see it
[04:19] <guest1> buffalo
[04:19] <jhb1608> I'll let you know when it is done installing
[04:19] <gene2> make sure you got that one loaded there too
[04:19] <tanath> jhb1608: you want it to search 'description & name'. you may have been searching something else
[04:19] <szal> <-- going to bed, g'nite folks :9
[04:19] <guest1> nothing happens
[04:19] <gene2> or is it statically compiled into kernel
[04:19] <bazhang> guest1, that is brand name not chipset
[04:19] <guest1> only light go on
[04:19] <jhb1608> I'm doing it in terminal
[04:19] <jhb1608> easier
[04:19] <jhb1608> and a lot faster
[04:20] <tanath> jhb1608: sometimes, yes
[04:20] <guest1> wli-u2-kg54l chipset
[04:20] <Blaqlight> jhb1608: sometimes.
[04:20] <tanath> jhb1608: not easier for everyone :P
[04:20] <bazhang> guest1, model name not chipset
[04:20] <hackmo> arrenlex, i'ce checked out that wiki page but none of it worked
[04:20] <hackmo> arrenlex, my driver was already installed
[04:20] <jhb1608> ok installed
[04:20] <hackmo> arrenlex, the sound was working like half an hour ago
[04:20] <guest1> Buffalo  	WLI-U2-KG54L  	zd1211b
[04:20] <hackmo> arrenlex, just suddenly stopped, in all
[04:20] <jhb1608> how to restart without rebooting?
[04:20] <Blaqlight> jhb1608: now logout and change your session in GDM to fluxbox from the dropdown
[04:20] <debian_akroyd> well i gtg, bye all
[04:20] <jhb1608> ok
[04:20] <jhb1608> I'll do that
[04:20] <riegersn> jhb1608, ctr+alt+backspace
[04:20] <guest808080> guest1 try lshw is it listed as UNCLAIMED?
[04:21] <tanath> riegersn: that's not logging out, that's killing X
[04:21] <guest1> very long
[04:21] <bazhang> guest1, that requires ndiswrapper
[04:21] <tanath> riegersn: at least if you log out it'll prompt you to save any unsaved work
[04:21] <guest1> are you sure
[04:22] <will00> how would i set a command that is normally root only autostart upon boot?
[04:22] <guest1> the kernel supports it
[04:22] <CTho> how can i get a 32bit libaoss on AMD64?
[04:22] <bazhang> guest1, did you hotplug it?
[04:22] <guest1> yes
[04:22] <bazhang> no wonder
[04:22] <guest1> hmm
[04:22] <guest1> also restart
[04:22] <riegersn> will00, are you trying to auto launch an app at login that requires a sudo pass?
[04:23] <bazhang> leave it in and restart with it in and then try ifconfig and see if there are three entries or two guest1
[04:23] <will00> riegersn: yes, more specifically grpoftpd
[04:23] <riegersn> will00, you can add a line to your sudoers file to allow specific users to launch without a pass
[04:24] <ManualOverDozer8> is there a reason why my HDD only copy at 3mb/sec ? i know they are capable of 10 times that speed
[04:24] <guest1> root@ubuntu:/home/guest1# ifconfig
[04:24] <guest1> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:c5:b1:13:e2
[04:24] <guest1>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[04:24] <guest1>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[04:24] <guest1>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[04:24] <FloodBot1> guest1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:24] <guest1>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[04:24] <riegersn> will00, i run firestarter like that:     shawn ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/firestarter
[04:24] <riegersn> thats added to my /etc/sudoers file
[04:24] <jhb1608> there
[04:24] <jhb1608> wow much better.
[04:24] <bazhang> if there is kernel support as you say guest1 then it will be detected; if not then you need ndiswrapper; also dont paste here but in paste.ubuntu.com
[04:24] <Blaqlight> jhb1608: nice eh?
[04:25] <jhb1608> yup
[04:25] <harpreet> eh, Canadian, eh?
[04:25] <will00> ok
[04:25] <ManualOverDozer8> !pastebin
[04:25] <riegersn> will00, under sessions when you set the startup app make sure the command line has the 'su' in front of the app so it launches as root
[04:25] <jhb1608> much faster
[04:25] <jhb1608> so I'm keeping it
[04:25] <surlyduff> hi.  I'm having trouble updating gnome-do from 0.4 to 0.5.  synaptic doesn't give me the option and the manual commands on the gnome-do site didn't work.  I'm using hardy.
[04:26] <bazhang> riegersn, please dont suggest su here
[04:26] <Prez00> hello
[04:26] <MTecknology> I really can't figure out how to make my terminal bell work :'(
[04:26] <timlarson_> I can't figure out how to get my terminals to un-grey
[04:26] <tanath> jhb1608: fluxbox is faster, but gnome is so much handier :P
[04:26] <jhb1608> true
[04:26] <Blaqlight> tanath: its all about personal preference.
[04:26] <ManualOverDozer8> MTecknology in the menu bar atop the terminal, there is an option to how you want terminal to look as well as sound
[04:26] <tanath> Blaqlight: indeed
[04:26] <gene2> Windows is even better
[04:26] <gene2> XP
[04:27] <tanath> gene2: hah
[04:27] <gene2> :)
[04:27] <bazhang> ##windows for that gene2
[04:27] <tanath> gene2: troll much? :P
[04:27] <ManualOverDozer8> <Tecknology
[04:27] <gene2> tanath: yep
[04:27] <ManualOverDozer8> choose Profiles
[04:27] <gene2> tanath: everyday
[04:27] <bazhang> gene2, not here
[04:27] <ManualOverDozer8> then edit
[04:27] <gene2> =)
[04:27] <LunarOrca> eidt the edit
[04:27] <MTecknology> ManualOverDozer8: heh?
[04:27] <Blaqlight> your barking up the wrong 1200+ limbed tree here with windows man.
[04:27] <tkach> This is weird, and kind of annoying. The first time I installed Hardy, i could see my networked computers (under Windows Network), I recently did a fresh install and now networking doesn't work (but I can connect to the internet). Vista, on the same machine, sees the network just fine.
[04:28] <MTecknology> ManualOverDozer8: I did -> Edit > Current Profile > General > Terminal bell (checked)  - but it didn'
[04:28] <MTecknology> t change anything
[04:28] <ManualOverDozer8> Mtech: the it may be muted in volume control. but that is where you can customize terminal
[04:28] <jhb1608> Could not launch the KDE Help Center: Couldn't find service "khelpcenter".
[04:29] <acp_> hi I just install postgresql using apt-get and it create a postgres user, what is the default passwrd of that user?
[04:29] <Blaqlight> jhb1608: your not using kde, your using fluxbox.
[04:29] <jhb1608> I am using it
[04:29] <greg__> Hello, can anyone reccommend a good (easy) firewall?
[04:29] <jhb1608> but the program I use needs it
[04:29] <jhb1608> lol
[04:29] <Sp0tter> Has anyone succesffully made a fully automaated install cd of hardy?
[04:29] <Blaqlight> jhb1608: thats why it cant find kde help ceter.
[04:29] <bazhang> firestarter greg__
[04:29] <jhb1608> kdissert
[04:30] <tanath> jhb1608: o.O
[04:30] <ManualOverDozer8> Spotter: LiveCD just choose guided, on empty drive, works for me
[04:30] <irisht> acp_: postgres password is randomly generated. Assuming you can sudo, become the postgres user and you can then connect and do what you need.
[04:30] <bazhang> Sp0tter, if you dont get an answer here you might also ask in #ubuntu-server
[04:30] <jhb1608> yup I'm serious
[04:30] <jhb1608> XD
[04:30] <greg__> I had too much trouble trying to configure Firestarter
[04:30] <Sp0tter> ah bazhang, ok thank you
[04:30] <tanath> jhb1608: i prolly have it installed. i have a couple kde apps: kdissert, & k3b
[04:31] <bazhang> greg__, nothing easier, man iptables is much harder :)
[04:31] <irisht> acp_: If you absolutely have to have it for some reason you can always change it, but I've found it's rare that you'd need it.
[04:31] <tanath> and maybe one or two others i'm forgetting
[04:31] <jhb1608> hm.
[04:31] <Blaqlight> jhb1608: I have all of the kde-games package installed without kde, along with all of gnome, in the fluxbox menus.
[04:31] <timlarson_> I force-quit'ed a terminal, which make all of the terminals disappear
[04:31] <tanath> jhb1608: so it's not letting you run kdissert?
[04:31] <timlarson_> then I started a new terminal, which auto-greyed
[04:31] <timlarson_> and froze
[04:31] <acp_> @irisht i need to execute initdb -D /usr/local/pgsql/data
[04:32] <greg__> But when I set up Firestarter it wipes out my network!
[04:32] <timlarson_> so I cannot even start a new terminal after killing the old ones
[04:32] <wols> greg__: why do you need a firewall in the first place?
[04:32] <acp_> coz its a fresh installation and I need to create a db
[04:32] <Blaqlight> greg__: firestarter is only a frontend for iptables
[04:33] <greg__> wols, for obvious reasons, namely security.
[04:33] <irisht> acp_: "sudo su - postgres"
[04:33] <wols> greg__: BS
[04:33] <wols> greg__: adding complexity never increased security
[04:33] <bazhang> irisht, why su
[04:33] <greg__> Ok, thanks Wols.
[04:34] <Blaqlight> !iptables | greg__
[04:34] <bazhang> !sudo | irisht
[04:34] <irisht> bazhang: He wants to become postgres without reseting the password.
[04:34] <filac> i was wondering if someone had a moment to assist me with a renewing ip issue on my wireless card ?
[04:34] <filac> anyone have a moment ?
[04:34] <bazhang> filac, ask away
[04:34] <ManualOverDozer8> sure filac
[04:35] <tanath> will installing firestarter interfere with an existing firewall script?
[04:35] <filac> great, finished a new install recently. Additionally setup my wireless card with updated drivers
[04:35] <Blaqlight> tanath: like which one?
[04:35] <tanath> Blaqlight: a custom one
[04:35] <filac> I connect to my internal network fine however it doesnt appear Im getting an ip assigned nor can i get out externally
[04:36] <ManualOverDozer8> filac: did your wireless work before you upgraded the drivers ?
[04:36] <filac> i checked my ip setings and they are all blank, ip/gway/ etc
[04:36] <wols> tanath: installing it won't. using it will
[04:36] <filac> no it didnt
[04:36] <tanath> wols: does 'using' include 'running'?
[04:36] <filac> but does now for internal net
[04:36] <wols> filac: if there is no IP assigned you can't use your internal network either.
[04:37] <wols> tanath: no
[04:37] <ManualOverDozer8> filac: check in System/Administration/Network on the mnuebar
[04:37] <wols> filac: they are certainly not blank. ifconfig -a
[04:37] <joe_chat> lates kernel update <IP_ADDRESS> loads gdm but not gnome any ideas
[04:37] <tanath> wols: does it configure itself to apply changes at boot
[04:37] <tanath> ?
[04:38] <filac> I understand the internal comment, however when i check to see what has been assigned its blank , but still connects to my wap
[04:38] <tanath> wols: if so, would it not affect the existing custom script?
[04:38] <wols> tanath: running it won't. doing something with it will
[04:38] <tanath> wols: by, say, overriding it
[04:38] <wols> filac: I asked you to run a command
[04:38] <Dallas> i want to learn java, is there any difference in learning on linux or windows?
[04:38] <filac> ok, hang on ill try
[04:38] <io__> I'm troubleshooting a problem with ufw.  I can't ping a machine on my network with ufw enabled.  When I disable it responds normally.
[04:39] <wols> Dallas: not really. java is supposed to be crossplatform. it's a feature of the language
[04:39] <io__> The target machines are Windows XP and I'm the only Hardy in the network
[04:39] <wols> io__: what is ufw?
[04:39] <filac> only issue is i have to switch over to not wired connection..brb.. thx wols
[04:39] <localh0s1> I already installed the openssl ( sudo apt-get install openssl ) but when i configure unrealircd it says i need the openssl libraries... How do i isntall them?
[04:39] <Dallas> ok cool thanks
[04:39] <io__> uncomplicated firewall
[04:39] <wols> localh0s1: you need the -dev package for the lib if you compile unreal
[04:40] <wols> io__: iptables -L will tell you
[04:40] <io__> In a moment, I'll post the output listing the ports I've allowed open.
[04:40] <wols> ping uses no ports at all
[04:40] <localh0s1> wols: apt-get install openssl-dev ?
[04:40] <io__> wols: what will this tell me?
[04:40] <tanath> io__: ping uses ICMP. no ports
[04:40] <wols> io__: what the problem is
[04:40] <bogeyman> does anyone know how to burn a dmg file on ubuntu?
[04:40] <bazhang> bogeyman, what file
[04:40] <io__> brb
[04:40] <bogeyman> its a dmg image file for mac os
[04:41] <tanath> bogeyman: k3b can prolly handle it if anything can
[04:41] <felicit1> I just installed ubuntu and the resolution was working okay, 1024x768. But the thing in the system tray told me to install the nvidia drivers and now all I get is a max resolution of 640x480, how to fix it? I have geforce ti
[04:41] <bazhang> bogeyman, what specific file
[04:41] <tanath> bogeyman: if not, find a converter
[04:41] <jhb1608> I think I'm more comfy with GNOME for now
[04:41] <AtomicSunset> is there a .deb for a codec pack that works equivalent to all in one codec pack for windows?
[04:41] <bazhang> ubuntu-restricted-extras AtomicSunset
[04:41] <ManualOverDozer8> felicit1 | !xorg
[04:41] <tanath> jhb1608: heh, it's worth installing any other necessary dependancies for kdissert & k3b :P
[04:41] <felicit1> ?
[04:41] <Bergwolf> does anyone experacing this?  GLib-CRITICAL: g_hash_table_lookup_extended: assertion `hash_table != NULL' failed
[04:42] <tanath> jhb1608: you don't have to install all of kde or anything, just a few dependencies
[04:42] <jhb1608> tanath, then how?
[04:42] <bazhang> bogeyman, is this the os x installer?
[04:42] <ManualOverDozer8> bazhang: them ubuntu-restricted-extras fixed my yuotube not playing videos problem
[04:42] <Bergwolf> I'm running GDM 2.20.7
[04:42] <tanath> jhb1608: how what?
[04:42] <jhb1608> well how do I install khelp thing?
[04:42] <AtomicSunset> is that a command or is that in the add/remove?
[04:42] <tanath> jhb1608: installing them directly should install anything they need
[04:43] <bogeyman> yea
[04:43] <jhb1608> only one thing I need
[04:43] <bazhang> AtomicSunset, sudo apt-get install packagename
[04:43] <SilentHive> can anyone possible tell me why my firefox is crashing incessantly ?
[04:43] <tanath> jhb1608: oh, so it wouldn't let you run it? i asked but you didn't answer
[04:43] <Bergwolf> Is it a bug in gdm? it kills all tty[1-6]
[04:43] <jhb1608> hm.
[04:43] <ManualOverDozer8> AtomicSunset: in Synaptic Package Manager
[04:43] <SilentHive> or what I should do
[04:43] <SilentHive> I tried re installing over and over
[04:43] <jhb1608> sorry, hm.
[04:43] <jhb1608> I'm just try to figure out how.
[04:43] <bazhang> SilentHive, need much more info than that
[04:43] <jhb1608> reinstall? or hm?
[04:43] <tanath> jhb1608: one sec
[04:44] <Blaqlight> tanath jhb1608 kde help center requires kde libraries. more importantly the qt toolkit that renders kde's windows. you can't have one without the other.
[04:44] <acp_> @irisht: got it thanks!
[04:44] <irisht> acp_: np
[04:44] <io__> ok.  ran iptables -L but not sure what I'm looking for.  I did a pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/31145/
[04:44] <bazhang> bogeyman, what specific package
[04:44] <tanath> jhb1608: try installing khelpcenter
[04:44] <filac> brb
[04:44] <jhb1608> ok let me try
[04:44] <bogeyman> its the os-x installer
[04:44] <bazhang> bogeyman, that is not welcome here
[04:44] <tanath> Blaqlight: i have a couple kde apps, but do not have kde installed. just the deps needed for those packages
[04:44] <bogeyman> y does it matter which package lol
[04:44] <bazhang> !piracy | bogeyman
[04:45] <obidiah> bogeyman: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/dmg.htm
[04:45] <bogeyman> thats none of ur business then sostfu
[04:45] <Blaqlight> tanath: none of those things are in the kdebase are they?
[04:45] <jhb1608> no match?
[04:46]  * tanath shrugs @ Blaqlight
[04:46] <Awsoonn> from console, how can I tell the size of a directory recursivly?
[04:46] <SeveredCross> Awsoonn: du -sh
[04:46] <Blaqlight> khelpcenter is in kdebase.
[04:46] <tanath> jhb1608: no match for that package? odd, it's in my repo
[04:46] <io__> kinda looks like none of the ports I need are open, but ufw tells me yes.
[04:46] <Awsoonn> SeveredCross: thank you
[04:46] <Blaqlight> you need all of kde to have it.
[04:46] <tanath> jhb1608: try sticking a 4 on the end
[04:46] <SeveredCross> ou're welcome Awsoonn .
[04:46] <io__> 137, 135, 138, 139, *
[04:46] <jhb1608> k
[04:46] <tanath> Blaqlight: hrm, i may have kdebase
[04:46] <felicit1> ugh I cant read a thing with 640x480, this is horrible
[04:46] <jhb1608> let me try kdebase
[04:47] <tanath> Blaqlight: but i don't have the ability to log into kde
[04:47] <jhb1608> yay
[04:47] <Bergwolf> gdm bug?
[04:47] <Bergwolf> gdm[4973]: GLib-CRITICAL: g_hash_table_lookup_extended: assertion `    hash_table != NULL' failed
[04:47] <ManualOverDozer8> felicit1:  ther is a way to reset that > resetting xorg. maybe someone here can tell you the command
[04:47] <mrtech> does anyone know how to fix my external harddrive problem with ubuntu..it was working untill i for got to unmount it,now its giving me anerror
[04:47] <felicit1> oh ok ManualOverDozer8
[04:48] <Blaqlight> mrtech: thats never good.
[04:48] <Gnea> Bergwolf: see it all the`time, nothing to worry about unless something crashed
[04:48] <ManualOverDozer8> !xorg
[04:48] <jhb1608> want me to install KDE4?
[04:48] <ManualOverDozer8> felicit1: that link may help
[04:48] <Gnea> mrtech: e2fsck?
[04:48] <Bergwolf> Gnea, it kills all ttys from 1 to 6
[04:48] <jhb1608> should I install KDE4?
[04:48] <tanath> jhb1608: if you want... i don't think it's necessary though
[04:48] <Blaqlight> jhb1608: thats what Ive been telling you, your going to have to for kde help center
[04:48] <mrtech> lol i know but it work with my windows comp still
[04:48] <jhb1608> oh!
[04:48] <Gnea> Bergwolf: that can't be right...
[04:49] <mrtech>  e2fsck?
[04:49] <jhb1608> ok install KDE4?
[04:49] <Gnea> mrtech: yeah, run e2fsck on the partition before mounting it
[04:49] <tanath> jhb1608: i have kdelibs & kdebase
[04:49] <felicit1> thanks ManualOverDozer8
[04:49] <Blaqlight> fine jhb1608 listen to tanath. Im moving on.
[04:49] <ManualOverDozer8> k
[04:49] <jhb1608> I find is KDE4
[04:49] <jhb1608> install that KDE4?
[04:49] <mrtech> how would i do that?
[04:49] <mkquist> mrtech - ntfs?
[04:50] <filac> wols you there ?
[04:50] <wols> yes
[04:50] <jhb1608> I'm just trying to understand what people say lol
[04:50] <ManualOverDozer8> is there a gaming channel for Ubuntu/linux here ?
[04:50] <Gnea> Bergwolf: ctl-alt-f[1-6] doesn't do anything?
[04:50] <filac> ready to try that command ?
[04:50] <filac> what was it sorry ?
[04:50] <Bergwolf> Gnea,in syslog    Jul 28 11:03:12 gigi-Ubuntu init: tty4 main process (4955) killed by TERM signal
[04:50] <Bergwolf> Jul 28 11:03:12 gigi-Ubuntu init: tty5 main process (4956) killed by TERM signal
[04:50] <Bergwolf> Jul 28 11:03:12 gigi-Ubuntu init: tty2 main process (4960) killed by TERM signal
[04:50] <Bergwolf> Jul 28 11:03:12 gigi-Ubuntu init: tty3 main process (4961) killed by TERM signal
[04:50] <Bergwolf> Jul 28 11:03:12 gigi-Ubuntu init: tty6 main process (4962) killed by TERM signal
[04:50] <Bergwolf> Jul 28 11:03:12 gigi-Ubuntu init: tty1 main process (5837) killed by TERM signal
[04:50] <FloodBot1> Bergwolf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:50] <jhb1608> I'm trying to understand before I do something.
[04:50] <Gnea> uh
[04:50] <jmichaelx> i recently installed ubuntu on an older PC for a friend. after the installation, 3D acceleration was not working properly (this PC has an onboard intel video adaptor), so i ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and to my great surprise, it did not ask any questions pertaining to the video driver or the monitor. why would this be?
[04:50] <Blaqlight> jhb1608: here
[04:51] <jhb1608> k
[04:51] <hhp2k> Hey guys, here's an interesting problem for you.
[04:51] <Gnea> Bergwolf: are you doing anything specific when it happens or is it more random?
[04:51] <wols> jhb1608: cause X config changed
[04:51] <jhb1608> huh?
[04:51] <hhp2k> I've had this problem for a while, and had previously concluded that it was a hardware issue - but I'm not sure.
[04:51] <Blaqlight> jhb1608:  do this type apt-cache show khelpcenter it will tell you what and where it is.
[04:51] <wols> jhb1608: glxinfo
[04:51] <wols> jmichaelx: cause X config changed
[04:51] <jhb1608> ok
[04:51] <jhb1608> I'll do that blaq
[04:51] <Bergwolf> Gnea, it happens for a while since my last upgrade to hardy
[04:52] <wols> Blaqlight: it only shows what khelpcenter IS: dpkg -L khelpcenter will tell you where it is
[04:52] <jmichaelx> wols: it apparently has changed a lot. i also saw that xorg.conf did not have the info i was used to seeing.
[04:52] <jhb1608> it's ok I just need to know what it is
[04:52] <io__> I want to run an experiment to see if ufw is somehow, broken.  It says port 137 is open, iptables has no mention of 137 being open.  Can I issue a command to iptables to open only 137?
[04:52] <tanath> jhb1608, Blaqlight, 'khelpcenter' is a package in the repos
[04:52] <Blaqlight> wait it proves my point about what is required for it.
[04:52] <hhp2k> When I press the # key, I get /. When I press the ? key, I get É. When I press other symbol keys.. sometimes I don't get anything at all.  It's become pretty confusing, and is making my computer very hard to use - does anyone know why this is happening*
[04:52] <jmichaelx> wols: what method does one use now to reconfigure X?
[04:52] <tanath> hhp2k: keyboard layout
[04:53] <Gnea> Bergwolf: ouch... only thing i can think of is to back stuff up and reinstall hardy from the get-go instead of upgrading... i've had upgrades slip up on something minor or major now and then.. but haven't seen that one
[04:53] <Blaqlight> ...  What should it be?
[04:53] <jhb1608> ok it is not install, how do I install it?
[04:53] <Blaqlight> jhb1608: did you type apt-cache show khelpcenter into a terminal?
[04:53] <jmichaelx> wols: how would a person know how to edit by hand to enable 3D acceleration, or other tweaks?
[04:53] <wols> jhb1608: like any other package
[04:54] <jhb1608> yes
[04:54] <tanath> hhp2k: not sure, but you can try different ones
[04:54] <obidiah> bazhang: thx. looks like he made some bot angry
[04:54] <wols> jhb1608: by reading manuals. and to enable 3D it'S supposedly not needed. I told you a command to run
[04:54] <jmichaelx> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg kept setting the video driver to 'vesa'
[04:54] <guest808080> you have canadian multilingue installed hhp2j
[04:54] <bazhang> obidiah, it was the piracy talk actually; not allowed here
[04:54] <tanath> jmichaelx: try gksu displayconfig-gtk
[04:54] <obidiah> bazhang: ah ok
[04:54] <will00> wols: iv just been trying to ditch the error message (98) Address already in use,: make_sock: could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>:80 no listening sockets available, shutting down
[04:54] <jhb1608> give me that command dpkg -l right?
[04:54] <jmichaelx> ty tanath
[04:54] <tanath> jmichaelx: even has a test button
[04:54] <Blaqlight> jhb1608: type sudo aptitude install khelpcenter
[04:55] <wols> will00: something is already running on the port. netstat -anp as root to find out
[04:55] <Gnea> mrtech: you still haven't done it?
[04:55] <jhb1608> yay
[04:55] <hhp2k> ééé```;;;;¨^<<>><|!"/$%?*()_+
[04:55] <Blaqlight> it will install a slew of other things.
[04:55] <jhb1608> installing
[04:55] <hhp2k> This is so wierd.
[04:55] <jhb1608> it's fine
[04:55] <Blaqlight> including kdebase.
[04:55] <jhb1608> it's ok
[04:55] <mrtech> not yet i dont know how .im still new to al this
[04:56] <Blaqlight> which I said 30 minutes ago already.
[04:56] <Awsoonn> what is the best way to find out what package an installed program belongs to?
[04:56] <jhb1608> I just need it to load khelp thing
[04:56] <seanp2k2> i'm having a problem with gusty gibbon x86 on an IBM laptop, pentium 3
[04:56] <jhb1608> :)
[04:56] <Blaqlight> how big is the download?
[04:56] <jhb1608> ok done
[04:56] <Gnea> mrtech: okay, are you familiar with the terminal/command line yet?
[04:56] <seanp2k2> on the boot loader screen for the installer, i hit enter on "install ubuntu" and the cd spins up, then nothing happens
[04:56] <jhb1608> ok I'm opening kdissert
[04:56] <filac> Anyone know why my wireless card continues to ask for the wep passphrase ?
[04:56] <filac> I enter it and it accepts then it pops back up in about 5 minutes.. Additionally I cannot seem to connect via wireless although it appears Im connected by the looks of the status
[04:56] <filac> Anyone know why my wireless card continues to ask for the wep passphrase ?
[04:56] <filac>  I enter it and it accepts then it pops back up in about 5 minutes.. Additionally I cannot seem to connect via wireless although it appears Im connected by the looks of the status
[04:56] <guest808080> hhp2k you have canadian multilingue installed as your keyboard swap it to just canadian or if you want french accents my preference is US International with dead keys
[04:56] <wols> !repeat | filac
[04:57] <harpreet> filac: its not going thru..restart
[04:57] <mrtech> i know how to get to the terminal
[04:57] <Blaqlight> jhb1608: that solve your problem?
[04:57] <will00> wols: ok i found that it was cherokee that was soaking it up, which would explain why the web page works, but ampache doesnt
[04:57] <jhb1608> hold on
[04:57] <Gnea> mrtech: do you know how to find out what the partition name is?
[04:57] <Blaize> hi, I want to upgrade a gutsy install that doesn't have access to the internet.  Is there a way I can download the files necessary to install onto a usb drive and upgrade it that way?
[04:57] <timlarson_> gnome-terminal freezes, the "System Log" tool freezes, but xterm is happy
[04:57] <jhb1608> yay!
[04:57] <timlarson_> what would cause this?
[04:58] <tanath> Blaqlight: why does kde have such crazy dependencies? reminds me of windows... :-/
[04:58] <mrtech> i dont
[04:58] <jhb1608> it works
[04:58] <SilentHive> sorry bazhang, I was experiencing some problems with my system
[04:58] <wols> tanath: gnome isn't different
[04:58] <tanath> jhb1608: :)
[04:58] <SilentHive> so what other info do you need
[04:58] <Blaqlight> tanath: I told you it would. kde4 is unpopular for that and a few other reasons.
[04:58] <hosk> I moved my computer today, physically. Now my username is not in the sudoers file and my root account seems to have magically changed, any suggestions short of hoping for a miracle on the next restart?
[04:58] <jmichaelx> Blaize: are you wanting to upgrade to hardy?
[04:58] <jhb1608> Hm
[04:58] <tanath> wols: no? :-/
[04:58] <Blaize> jmichaelx: yes
[04:58] <hosk> root account password, i mean
[04:58] <jhb1608> now I need ot find that handbook for kdissert
[04:58] <tanath> Blaqlight: such as?
[04:58] <filac> sorry that wasnt intended to be a repeat, my connection dropped i wasnt sure it posted, thx
[04:58] <Gnea> mrtech: okay - there are a couple of ways to find out, but we'll go with the easiest, since it will help you out in the long run. :)  run this command in one terminal: tail -f /var/log/syslog
[04:58] <Gnea> mrtech: then open another terminal
[04:59] <Bergwolf> Gnea, ooohhh, no... I don't want to reinstall... It cost too much time.... I searched in google and only find ubuntu users reporting this bug, so I think I should wait a while to update again
[04:59] <tanath> jhb1608: handbook? it's easy enough to use...
[04:59] <jmichaelx> Blaize: i think you should just download the hardy CD, and upgrade using that
[04:59] <Blaqlight> jhb1608: you need kde docs now too
[04:59] <tanath> jhb1608: what for?
[04:59] <jhb1608> ok
[04:59] <mlLK> anyone here use fuse?
[04:59] <tanath> er, Blaqlight, what for?
[04:59] <mrtech> ok hold on pls
[04:59] <jhb1608> so I can able to understand how to use kdissert
[04:59] <mlLK> w/ samba
[04:59] <jhb1608> :)
[04:59] <Blaqlight> jhb1608: you got the reader now you need the book.
[04:59] <io__> ok I ran the following: "sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 137 -j ACCEPT"  what would I have to do to enable ICMP ?
[04:59] <mlLK> !fuse
[05:00] <seanp2k2> i'm stuck at this screen: http://taqeem.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/vista_ubuntu_05article-width.jpg ....what other boot options should I try?
[05:00] <jhb1608> ok how do i install that kde docs?
[05:00] <tanath> jhb1608: i don't find it complicated..
[05:00] <mrtech> ok
[05:00] <jhb1608> I try to make a box with text and tried to edit it
[05:00] <jmichaelx> i use sshfs a lot, so i guess i would count as a fuse user
[05:00] <tanath> jhb1608: works similarly to labyrinth
[05:00] <nitrus1> i just did an upgrade from dapper drake to hardy and my ethernet interface is getting mapped to eth2 instead of eth1, im supposed to change that in /etc/udev/rules/70-persistent-net.rules right?  i think i managed to get it back to eth1 but now if i do ifconfig eth1 up i get SIOCSIFFLAGS invalid argument
[05:00] <Gnea> !iptables | io__
[05:00] <tanath> jhb1608: double-click
[05:01] <jhb1608> Hm. ok
[05:01] <mlLK> should cvs repos work w/ svn?
[05:01] <tanath> jhb1608: then you just click on it to edit
[05:01] <tanath> jhb1608: you select a box, and edit at the bottom
[05:01] <Gnea> mlLK: no, they are 2 entirely different repository types
[05:01] <Blaize> this gutsy install has an atheros card... the restricted driver is installed and the ath_pci module was loaded, but the interface doesn't appear for some reason... Do you think an upgrade to hardy will fix this?
[05:01] <Lordgreggreg1> is ubuntu a 2.6.x kernel?
[05:01] <Gnea> Lordgreggreg1: yes.
[05:01] <jhb1608> oh!
[05:01] <Lordgreggreg1> ty :)
[05:01] <jhb1608> duh
[05:02] <tanath> jhb1608: title, description, and even links to other docs on the right
[05:02] <mrtech> ok i did it
[05:02] <jmichaelx> Blaize: it would certainly be worth a try.
[05:02] <Sydero> Could anyone recommend any packages or links for hardening ubuntu?
[05:02] <tanath> jhb1608: and you can make links to seperate boxes with middle-click & drag
[05:02] <nalioth> bogeyman: google "dmg2iso"
[05:02] <jhb1608> Hm.
[05:03] <bogeyman> will the macbook recognize it with that?
[05:03] <bogeyman> bc i burned one on windows and my macbook would not recognize it
[05:03] <jhb1608> HOW DO i MAKE A LINE?
[05:03] <Gnea> Sydero: http://www.itsecurity.com/features/ubuntu-secure-install-resource/ ,  http://www.linuxforums.org/security/locking_down_ubuntu.html
[05:04] <jhb1608> sorry
[05:04] <jhb1608> my keyboard caps was on
[05:04] <tanath> jhb1608: like i said, middle-click & drag
[05:04] <jhb1608> oh
[05:04] <mlLK> is fuse dangerous?
[05:04] <jhb1608> wow
[05:04] <Sydero> thanks Gnea
[05:04] <mrtech> l_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_Seagate_External_Drive_SG062911547_0_0').
[05:04] <mrtech> Jul 27 20:45:42 mrtech-desktop NetworkManager: <debug> [1217216742.930037] nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_uuid_1C94B48394B460C6').
[05:04] <jhb1608> cool
[05:04] <io__> Gnea: I don't follow you.  Are you telling me I need to type in !iptables at the CLI?
[05:04] <boggystudios> can't remove nvidia-glx from my system
[05:04] <boggystudios>  I get this error http://pastebin.com/m5eaf7be
[05:05] <Gnea> mrtech: okay - do you have the hard drive plugged into the usb port right now?
[05:05] <tanath> jhb1608: you can also choose what clicking does at the top
[05:05] <jhb1608> oh cool
[05:05] <boggystudios> Any Ideas?
[05:05] <mrtech> yeah
[05:05] <Gnea> io__: did you not recieve some sort of message from ubottu?
[05:05] <wols> boggystudios: dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[05:05] <io__> ubottu: I just entered a command to iptables to open port 137.  I'm on the page you specified already.
[05:05] <tanath> jhb1608: and there's a tab at the left for tree view
[05:05] <Gnea> mrtech: okay - unplug it, wait 10 seconds, plug it in again
[05:05] <silas_> Cube still in ubuntu 8.04 if so how do you enable :|
[05:05] <wols> boggystudios: my guessi s you used nvidia.com installer or envy or such after you installed nvidia-glx
[05:06] <wols> !ccsm | silas_
[05:06] <Gnea> io__: uhm, ubottu is a 'bot'
[05:06] <tanath> silas_: is compiz running?
[05:06] <io__> yes.  it told me to RTFM
[05:06] <mrtech> ok i waited 10sec
[05:06] <io__> :-)
[05:06] <Gnea> no, man iptables would be RTFM :)
[05:06] <silas_> cheers win :P
[05:07] <Gnea> io__: there's also #iptables and #netfilter, which are much more situated to deal with individual questions regarding how to use firewall software
[05:07] <tanath> jhb1608: so what do you think? i've yet to find one better
[05:07] <boggystudios> wols: http://pastebin.com/m190f708e no I just tried 'apt-get install nvidia-glx' instead of the auto installer
[05:07] <Blaqlight> io__: you don't need to use such language.
[05:07] <wols> boggystudios: that's not what I said
[05:07] <jhb1608> g2g
[05:08] <crimsun> io__: note that if you use hardy, you can use ufw, too.
[05:08] <io__> not my intention to offend.
[05:08] <tanath> Read The Friendly Manual??? :P
[05:08] <Gnea> yeah really
[05:08] <boggystudios> wols: sorry, I misread your post.  but no I haven't used the envy installer or the official nvidia installer at all
[05:09] <io__> ok.  I started this thread using ufw, which as far as I understand is a frontend to iptables.  when I disable ufw, I can ping a machine on my LAN.  when I enable it I can't
[05:09] <tanath> io__: you'll need rules to allow pinging
[05:09] <crimsun> io__: err, are you dropping outbound by default, too?
[05:10] <io__> that means firewall yes?  So then I go and add the ports I think are supposed to be open on a windows XP network for normal communication (ie 137, 138, 139 etc.)
[05:10] <Gnea> io__: seriously, that website, #iptables and #netfilter will be able to provide you with a much more definative answer than we will be able to.
[05:10] <seanp2k2> I have an ibm 2652-35u laptop (p3 1Ghz) and have debian 4.1 loaded on it, yet ubuntu 8 will not get past cd loader screen.  I select an option and it spins the cd, then does nothing.  The menu is still active, it does not freeze or change screens.
[05:10] <Rat409> io__: firestarter might be easier its another gui-front end to iptables
[05:10] <Blaqlight> seanp2k2: did you checksum/errorcheck the dvd/cd's
[05:11] <seanp2k2> no, however, this problem also occurs with a ubuntu 7 disc
[05:11] <bazhang> seanp2k2, did you md5 the iso and do disk integrity check
[05:11] <crimsun> io__: by default, ufw enable + ufw default deny => does not drop outgoing by default
[05:11] <mrtech> *
[05:11] <sjovan> seanp2k2: you could always download the alternate cd...
[05:11] <io__> thanks gnea.  Think I'll try there.  Appreciate the help offered
[05:11] <bazhang> seanp2k2, then you need to fiddle with the boot params
[05:11] <Gnea> io__: good luck
[05:11] <seanp2k2> the disc integrity check does the same thing, screen doesn't change but cd spins up
[05:11] <io__> thanks
[05:11] <seanp2k2> i have tried a few boot options
[05:12] <bazhang> seanp2k2, remove quiet and splash and see the exact errors
[05:12] <honeykiss> hi
[05:12] <Blaqlight> seanp2k2: I had so many problems with that that the only way I could get a useable ubuntu system was to install kubuntu 6.04 and upgrade.
[05:12] <honeykiss> is there someone important
[05:12] <bazhang> ask away honeykiss
[05:12] <tanath> can anyone help me with gpg? running 'gpg --clearsign *' wants to use the wrong key...
[05:13] <FAJALOU1> !ask | tanath
[05:13] <tanath> FAJALOU1: i did ask the question
[05:13] <seanp2k2> Blaqlight, yes, i was wondering if there was a way to upgrade from debian etch to gusty gibbon, but i'm thinking not since that is a different kernel and distro
[05:13] <tanath> FAJALOU1: albeit indirectly
[05:13] <mrtech> its pluged up
[05:13] <bazhang> seanp2k2, not to my knowledge
[05:13] <seanp2k2> removing quiet and splash has no effect
[05:14] <cratel> join #dataflow
[05:14] <bazhang> seanp2k2, you could also try alternate cd, minimal iso or unetbootin
[05:14] <seanp2k2> i am currently downloading the alternate CD and will give that a whirl and report back here and possibly post a forum note on this
[05:14] <Blaqlight> seanp2k2: this was awhile back, I tried all the cd's I could find (6 total) and none of them worked.. I had to use an old cd I had laying around that had worked.
[05:14] <crimsun> seanp2k2: it's known as a cross-grade, and while it's most certainly not supported, it's very much possible.
[05:14] <Blaqlight> seanp2k2: I never did figure out the problem
[05:14] <Rat409> seanp2k2: try nolapic noapic acpi=off apm=reboot panic=5
[05:15] <seanp2k2> crimsun, i figure if i can just boot it possibly single user, unmount the file system, then manually install it
[05:15] <daniele> .....
[05:16] <seanp2k2> Rat409, this also yields no effect
[05:16] <Rat409> mileage varys
[05:16] <Rat409> seanp2k2: might add noscsi other than that no more ideas ftm
[05:16] <Rat409> seanp2k2: bad download or bad burn maybe
[05:17] <mrtech> what do i do after i wait 10 sec
[05:17] <harpreet> mrtech: u wait more
[05:17] <tanath> no one familiar with gpg?
[05:17] <Gnea> mrtech: plug it back in
[05:17] <mortis_> Ugh. I'm having a problem
[05:17] <seanp2k2> Rat409, i have never had a bad disc burned from this pc / drive / disc spindle, however I will not discard the possibility of corrupt media.  I will however try the alternate CD in a moment and report the results here.  Thank you for your input.
[05:18] <mrtech> i mean i, i did
[05:18] <santiago> Hello
[05:18] <Dedi> anyone managed to get ubuntu-modules running with a custom compiled kernel? (what i did yet: http://tinyurl.com/5szfrd )
[05:18] <Gnea> mrtech: you should see the device name show up in the other terminal as sda: or sdb: or something like that
[05:18] <santiago> is now beryl called compiz?
[05:18] <Gnea> !compiz | santiago
[05:19] <silas_> What would you say is the best gnome skin manager?
[05:19] <Gnea> !beryl | santiago
[05:19] <Blaqlight> beryl merged with compiz, its now called compiz yes
[05:19] <Gnea> !best | silas_
[05:19] <santiago> how should i install one of those (Compiz-Fusion or !compiz)?
[05:19] <Relaed> s
[05:19] <Relaed> Wba
[05:19] <santiago> what steps should i follow?
[05:20] <Gnea> !compiz | santiago
[05:20] <Gnea> santiago: read the webpage that ubottu just triggered forth for you
[05:20] <santiago> ok
[05:20] <santiago> thank you very much guys!
[05:20] <Gnea> santiago: and it's just Compiz-Fusion :)
[05:20] <Gnea> yw
[05:21] <mrtech> ok  yeah as:sdf1
[05:21] <Gnea> you have successfully connected a Super Dimensional Fortress to your computer.
[05:21] <Gnea> j/k :)
[05:21] <Blaqlight> Gnea: how that part of it is broken.
[05:21] <Gnea> mrtech: ok, if you type df, do you see the /dev/sdf1 show up anywhere?
[05:22] <santiago> one question Composite manager = compiz-fusion?
[05:22] <Blaqlight> santiago:  yes
[05:22] <santiago> ok
[05:22] <Gnea> Blaqlight: thankfully, we don't have to worry about Khyron ;)
[05:22] <Blaqlight> err wait Im sorry, someone stole it.
[05:22] <silas_>  /sigh, i just installed an emerald skin and the panels arn't changing to what it looks like within the printscreen preview...
[05:22] <silas_> The fix would be?
[05:23] <Gnea> choose a different skin?
[05:23] <Blaqlight> silas_: close and reopen the window.
[05:23] <unewbie> anyone installed ebox?
[05:23] <Blaqlight> silas_: also if that doesn't work, use the import funtion instead.
[05:23] <Gnea> !ebox | unewbie
[05:23] <silas_> It's the panel at the top with the time user applications places system, didn't work, and also i did import it.
[05:24] <mrtech> this is what i see::::udev                    224768        72    224696   1% /dev
[05:24] <mrtech> devshm                  224768        48    224720   1% /dev/shm
[05:24] <mrtech> lrm                     224768     39776    184992  18% /lib/modules/2.6.24-20-generic/volatile
[05:24] <mrtech> gvfs-fuse-daemon     192511896  36005192 146804652  20% /home/mrtech/.gvfs
[05:24] <mrtech> /dev/scd0                79490     79490         0 100% /media/cdrom0
[05:24] <FloodBot1> mrtech: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:24] <mrtech> mrtech@mrtech-desktop:~$
[05:24] <unewbie> thanks
[05:24] <Blaqlight> silas_: thats the gnome-panel
[05:24] <silas_> Blaqlight: Yes does it not change with the skin?
[05:24] <Blaqlight> emerald doesn't change anything with that except the overlays and such, not the colors.
[05:24] <armr> #backtrack
[05:25] <silas_> Blaqlight: How would i go about customizing the gnome-panels?
[05:25] <Rat409> silas_: try alt+F2 gnome-panel --restart
[05:25] <Gnea> mrtech: er, yeah, pasting isn't a good idea here - try this command:  sudo e2fsck /dev/sdf1
[05:25] <Blaqlight> silas_: System > Appearence
[05:25] <santiago> Which X-server do u recomend me to install compiz-fusion? AIGLX, Xgl or Xgl simple (i'm not an experienced user)
[05:25] <Blaqlight> err System > preferences > appearence
[05:26] <Blaqlight> santiago: all will work I belive
[05:26] <santiago> no big difference between them? i mean isnt there one more advanced and more complicated to install? (asking so i dont choose that one :D)
[05:27] <silas_> This didn't change the panel, also is there a shortcut to put someones name ie username: msg rather than typing there username?
[05:27] <Blaqlight> I don't think so, I might be wrong.
[05:27] <Blaqlight> silas_: tab
[05:27] <santiago> well i'll choose one randomly :P
[05:27] <sjovan> santiago: compiz is installed by default...
[05:27] <mrtech> its says try running e2fsck-b 8193 device
[05:28] <Blaqlight> santiago: use aiglx
[05:29] <santiago> i was recomended to install it by the add/take applications
[05:30] <Blaqlight> santiago: yeah
[05:30] <silas_> sorry about all the questions -.- here's another one, i installed the media player XMMS but i don't know how to launch it i did the whole ./ocnfigure make make install but i can't find the launcher, don't tell me i newb out and it's a thirdparty addon to a media player =/
[05:30] <santiago> oh lol :) i'm new at ubuntu
[05:30] <Blaqlight> !xmms | silas_
[05:31] <santiago> Blaqlight: thanks for ur help :)
[05:31] <silas_> That would explain it, cheers.
[05:32] <Blaqlight> silas_: btw, there is a package called xmms2
[05:32] <Blaqlight> its installed/required for xmms2tray
[05:32] <Blaqlight> silas_: its nothing like the old xmms though, just a daemon
[05:32] <rkvirani> Anyone know which WM will give me clean simplicity like OSX?
[05:33] <gardar> doesn't fsck work with fat32?
[05:33] <Blaqlight> rkvirani: how simple
[05:33] <Sydero> Is grsecurity available as a ubuntu package or do I have to install by hand?
[05:33] <silas_> Right, but with audacious it doesn't playback any sound from my mp3s unlike rythmbox, any reason why
[05:33] <rkvirani> Blaqlight: you know, the finder doc type deal
[05:33] <silas_> also the tab key to talk back doesn't work -.-
[05:33] <rkvirani> awn like dock with a simple file-manager, kind of like finder
[05:34] <rkvirani> I would run ume-launcher but... it requires drivers that I dont have access to (HP 2133)
[05:34] <santiago> anyone knows how to add that 3d cube effect + other efects with compiz?
[05:34] <Blaqlight> xfce is your beat, unless you want really simple then flux/open/black-box is your thing
[05:34] <silas_> ohh i know this one :D
[05:34] <santiago> do i only have to check the box cube?
[05:34] <silas_> !combiz | santiago
[05:34] <silas_> !compiz | santiago
[05:34] <pavan> hi all.. recently did a dist upgrade to 8.04 .. now i see 3 packages in my Update Manager.. which just doesn't get upgraded.. and they are listed as part of "dist upgrade"..
[05:34] <gardar> Nobody that knows if fsck works with fat32?
[05:34] <pavan> any ideas how i can upgrade themm
[05:34] <santiago> ok ty
[05:35] <rkvirani> Blaqlight: hrm.. its been a while since I used xfce I will give it a shot.
[05:35] <Blaqlight> xfce uses thunar
[05:35] <Blaqlight> rkvirani: open/black/flux-box use gnome or kde stuff.
[05:36] <pavan> the 3 packages are "libglib1.2-dev" .. "libgtk1.2".. "liborbit0"
[05:36] <tkach> This is weird, and kind of annoying. The first time I installed Hardy, i could see my networked computers (under Windows Network), I recently did a fresh install and now networking doesn't work (but I can connect to the internet). Vista, on the same machine, sees the network just fine.
[05:37] <pavan> any suggestions.. anyone??
[05:37] <FAJALOU1> I am looking for a wireless usb adapter that will work basically right out of the box; does anyone have any suggestions.  i hear that atheros is the best b/c they are in the restricted adapters, but my usb one is not supported, does anyone have any suggestions?
[05:38] <dasickis> rkvirani: what are you looking for?
[05:38] <irisht> pavan: Try it from the command line and see what it says?
[05:38] <rkvirani> dasickis: OSX :D
[05:38] <Gnea> mrtech: i may have missed something... is that disk formatted for ext3 or ntfs?
[05:39] <dasickis> rkvirani: ooo i have a great tutorial
[05:39] <dasickis> rkvirani: bb
[05:39] <Rat409> gardar: sudo /sbin/fsck.vfat
[05:39] <Gnea> pavan: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:39] <jmichaelx> FAJALOU1: i would recommend the belkin wireless G usb network adapter (i don't kow about the wireless N version)
[05:39] <Blaqlight> dasickis: he doesn't want it too look like OSX, he wants it too funtion like it.
[05:39] <FAJALOU1> jmichaelx:  did it work out of the box for you?
[05:39] <rkvirani> bb
[05:39] <rkvirani> blackbox
[05:39] <Blaqlight> dasickis: big difference.
[05:39] <jmichaelx> FAJALOU1: there are 3 different versions of that USB adapter, with three different chipsets, but they all three will work in  ubuntu.
[05:40] <FAJALOU1> jmichaelx:  i know they will work, but will they work out of the box, no setup?
[05:40] <dasickis> Blaqlight: he wants the GUI to function like it?
[05:40] <Blaqlight> rkvirani: Im using fluxbox. but to search for files I have to use nautilus (because I have gnome installed)
[05:40] <jmichaelx> FAJALOU1: yes, mine worked out of the box. it has the rt73 chipset, which has support built into the 2.6.24 (and up) kernel
[05:41] <dasickis> rkvirani: http://www.taimila.com/?q=node/11 take a look at that
[05:41] <bazhang> FAJALOU1, ralink possibly
[05:41] <jmichaelx> FAJALOU1: mine worked out of the box, no setup
[05:41] <rkvirani> dasickis: I;ve seen it :D
[05:41] <dasickis> rkvirani: ok cool
[05:41] <cellofellow> nm-applet is storing keys in the "default" keyring and requires me to enter a password to unlock it at login. On top of that it often forgets passwords and requires entering them manually, often several times. I have a little script that I use to restart the NetworkManager daemon and the ndiswrapper module, and that often helps. How do I get nm-applet to not forget keys and to use the "login" keyring?
[05:41] <rkvirani> Maybe I dont know what I want
[05:41] <rkvirani> anyways
[05:41] <dasickis> rkvirani: so exactly what are you trying to do ?
[05:41] <FAJALOU1> bazhang:  i am on an airlink usb, and all it needed was ndiswrapper...
[05:41] <rkvirani> thanks for the suggestions
[05:41] <rkvirani> perhaps I will give XFCE a look.
[05:42] <dasickis> rkvirani: i missed your last things
[05:42] <dasickis> messages*
[05:42] <jmichaelx> FAJALOU1: what chipset does that card use?
[05:42] <Blaqlight> lol
[05:42] <bazhang> FAJALOU1, for out of the box ralink is the most likely
[05:42] <jmichaelx> ralink used to suck in linux, but now it is great
[05:42] <FAJALOU1> jmichaelx: atheros, but madwifi doesn't support usb...
[05:42] <FAJALOU1> bazhang: ralink?  i'll check on it
[05:42] <Blaqlight> dasickis: I think I confused him with all the options available..
[05:42] <bazhang> FAJALOU1, it is the rt73 that jmichaelx was talking about
[05:43] <cellofellow> anyone know what is up with nm-applet keys?
[05:43] <jmichaelx> FAJALOU1: i see. that may be changing. atheros is fixing to GPL a lot of their driver info.... most of it will wind up in the linux kernel
[05:43] <tkach> This is weird, and kind of annoying. The first time I installed Hardy, i could see my networked computers (under Windows Network), I recently did a fresh install and now networking doesn't work (but I can connect to the internet). Vista, on the same machine, sees the network just fine. (Would switching to xubuntu or kubuntu make any difference?)
[05:43] <peepsalot> can anyone help me configure audacity for my sound device?   I can't get it to play anything
[05:43] <dasickis> Blaqlight: haha that's one problem with Linux or ... choice
[05:43] <mrtech> its ntfs
[05:43] <FAJALOU1> jmichaelx:  that's convenient
[05:43] <cellofellow> peepsalot: try using pasuspender -- audacity
[05:43] <Blaqlight> tkach: as for the part in parentheses no it wouldn't
[05:44] <FAJALOU1> bazhang: you think that ralink is a good idea/
[05:44] <peepsalot> cellofellow, i don't know what that is
[05:44] <cellofellow> peepsalot: use the script pasuspender to tell the PulseAudio daemon to let Audacity access the soundcard directly.
[05:45] <jmichaelx> what i would like to find, is a good express-card wireless adaptor that works outof the box
[05:45] <cellofellow> peepsalot: in a terminal run `pasuspender -- audacity``
[05:45] <Blaqlight> dasickis: some of use consider that an asset, as opposed to one look deal with it attitude.
[05:45] <peepsalot> cellofellow, ah ok thanks.  didn't realize it was already installed
[05:46] <dasickis> Blaqlight: no definitely it's an asset if you know what Linux is about but for people coming in, it's very overwhelming
[05:47] <SamSamSam> which one of these would I need to install to get xvid codec onto hardy?   http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/pool/main/x/xvidcore/
[05:47] <cellofellow> peepsalot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/31159/
[05:47] <cellofellow> peepsalot: I put this script in ~/.bin/audacity, .bin is in my path.
[05:47] <dasickis> Blaqlight: but luckily Ubuntu made very a good default distro that's easy to use
[05:47] <newbe1> hello everyone
[05:48] <Blaqlight> !hi | newbe1
[05:48] <cypha> do most of you guys have Gnome Art Manager installed?
[05:48] <cellofellow> peepsalot: now you can just run it from the menu, and it will warn that it suspends PA.
[05:48] <smokewon> Hi there can someone please tell me where on earth i can find the xftfONt Utopia font??, i've looked everywhere
[05:48] <dee> Is there a better way to create an image for PXE-Boot than DD???
[05:48] <smokewon> its from this conky script: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5465096&postcount=3025
[05:48] <newbe1> hi blaqlight
[05:49] <peepsalot> cellofellow, thank you very much.  if everyone has to do this to get audacity to work, seems like the package should be changed to automatically do this
[05:49] <newbe1> hi ubontu
[05:49] <smokewon> !ubotu Utopia
[05:49] <cellofellow> peepsalot: actually what is happening is the underlying PortAudio library is having PulseAudio support added.
[05:49] <smokewon> !ubotu font xft
[05:49] <smokewon> !ubotu font
[05:49] <dee> !dd
[05:50] <dee> lol
[05:50] <smokewon> !font
[05:50] <esac> !abuse
[05:50] <esac> ahh, what is the bot abuse comand
[05:50] <peepsalot> !botabuse
[05:50] <davitosan> hello everybody! im new to linux, and i like what ive seen so far. I'd love to learn to help in the development process, but I have very little programming skills. Where should I start?
[05:50] <dee> I do thank everyone here for listening to the stream of questions
[05:50] <dee> but an I don't know would be nice :)
[05:51] <harpreet> davitosan: u know how to operate the system?
[05:51] <Blaqlight> davitosan: are you using ubuntu?
[05:51] <davitosan> yeah, 8.04
[05:51] <esac> dee: silence is the communitys way of saying 'i dont know'
[05:51] <sdakak> !bluetooth
[05:51] <Blaqlight> !term
[05:51] <dee> ok, thank you very much, esac :)
[05:51] <sdakak> !bluetoothaudio
[05:51] <sdakak> !headset
[05:52] <Flippeh> Somehow my dist is borked up.. in every player I try, my MP3 files won't start playing. I get no errors, but it stays at 00:00 and doesn't advance. My video is strange, too, as it's colored blue, or sloppy or whatnot. Is this an easy to fix thing?
[05:52] <dee> I just been beating my head against the wall for weeks with creating good pxe images
[05:52] <dee> hahahaha :)
[05:52] <Dedi> anyone managed to get ubuntu-modules running with a custom compiled kernel? (what i did yet: http://tinyurl.com/5szfrd )
[05:52] <mrtech> the disc it ntfs
[05:52] <dee> so I'm sorry if I've been short :)
[05:52] <davitosan> i downloaded a C/C++ IDE, but im not sure if C is the best way to start
[05:52] <SamSamSam>  which one should I use?  Woody Sarge or Etch??
[05:52] <Blaqlight> !mp3 | Flippeh
[05:52] <Flippeh> Thanks :)
[05:52] <esac> !botabuse | sdakak
[05:52] <nitrus1> i just did an upgrade from dapper drake to hardy and my ethernet interface is getting mapped to eth2 instead of eth1, im supposed to change that in /etc/udev/rules/70-persistent-net.rules right?
[05:52] <bazhang> Flippeh, for video disable compiz
[05:53] <Flippeh> But it's strange, as it all worked just fine
[05:53] <bazhang> SamSamSam, that is to be asked in #debian
[05:53] <cellofellow> peepsalot: hey, sorry kinda forgot that that script doesn't work if you try to open a file from Nautilus in Audacity, but I figured out just add "$*" after /usr/bin/audacity.
[05:53] <Flippeh> This problem has come up shortly, I noticed it today
[05:53] <Blaqlight> Flippeh: did you upgrade anything?
[05:54] <Flippeh> I used the built in update, yes
[05:54] <newbe1> I downgraded to xubuntu  does any know how to go back
[05:54] <sdakak> !supportpollution | esac
[05:54] <SamSamSam> How can I install Xvid?
[05:54] <bazhang> sdakak, please stop
[05:54] <newbe1> I downgraded to xubuntu  does any know how to go back   private message me
[05:54] <donkeyx> just search for it using package manager
[05:55] <bazhang> newbe1, choose in login window session
[05:55] <cellofellow> SamSamSam: install libxvidcore4
[05:55] <cypha> how can i get that mac-type thing at the bottom of my screen?
[05:55] <donkeyx> should be in the repos
[05:55] <kushalsejwal> I saved a python .py file and another file with name .py~ got created automatically ......what does this means??
[05:55] <cypha> that shows the taskbar
[05:55] <Blaqlight> newbe1: downgrade from what?
[05:55] <bazhang> install awn cypha
[05:55] <cypha> bazhang, do i need compiz to use it?
[05:55] <cypha> or is it stand-alone
[05:55] <bazhang> !awn | cypha read here
[05:55] <davitosan> kushalsejwal: i think thats a temp file, the one you are currently using
[05:55] <newbe1> blaqlight  xubuntu
[05:56] <newbe1> bazhang   what
[05:56] <cellofellow> cypha: there's two, Avant-Window-Navigator (AWN) and Cairo-Dock, and don't use the ones in the repose they're way old. And yes they use compositing so you need at least xcompmgr or compiz.
[05:56] <bazhang> newbe1, when you login change the session
[05:56] <newbe1> ok
[05:56] <cypha> oh, i was trying to avoid compiz...causes too many random problems!
[05:56] <kushalsejwal> davitosan: yes you are right because I even dont see that file when I unhide the hidden files
[05:56] <Rat409> cypha: might google sim-dock also
[05:57] <cypha> does that require compiz?
[05:57] <kushalsejwal> davitosan: no need to worry about that temp file?? isnt it ?
[05:57] <Rat409> cypha: not sure sorry
[05:57] <donkeyx> yes
[05:57] <cellofellow> anybody know how to fix network-manager's behavior involving keyrings? It uses the default instead of login keyring and forgets WPA passwords.
[05:57] <Basara> who
[05:57] <davitosan> kushalsejwal: wouldnt think so, it should get deleted as soon as you close the app that was using it
[05:58] <SamSamSam> thank you cellofellow
[05:58] <kushalsejwal> davidoan: Yes, thanks mate :)
[05:59] <newbe1> any of the other chat programs have any interesting topics available
[06:00] <bazhang> newbe1, like what
[06:00] <newbe1> guess
[06:00] <Blaqlight> cypha: awn does not require compiz
[06:00] <cypha> no?
[06:00] <Blaqlight> awn is standalone
[06:00] <bazhang> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist check here newbe1
[06:01] <cellofellow> cypha: it does require a compositing desktop environment, which compiz provides but isn't the only provider.
[06:01] <cypha> cool, thanks blaqlight
[06:01] <cypha> blaqlight, i am not running and window manager, just the default gnome that comes with ubuntu
[06:01] <cellofellow> cypha: without a composited environment it'll just be invisible.
[06:01] <newbe1> thanks bazhang
[06:02] <cellofellow> cypha: if you want AWN but not Compiz, try xcompmgr.
[06:02] <cypha> hmm
[06:02] <cypha> cello, is that one lighter or something?
[06:02] <santiago> i dont know how to install adobe flash player :( just tried to enter into youtube (i'm new at ubuntu) and it said i needed to download adobe flash player and it makes me choose the type of file that i need to download and dont know how to install it, does any1 know how to?
[06:02] <cellofellow> cypha: it's not a window manager and has very little, practically no effects. Just drop shadows.
[06:02] <cypha> cellofellow: do you have a cool looking desktop?
[06:02] <zelrikriando> santiago, is it a .deb file that you downloaded?
[06:02] <zelrikriando> santiago, describe your file
[06:03] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock cypha does not need compositor
[06:03] <cellofellow> cypha: I use Compiz Fusion but I have used xcompmgr in conjunction with OpenBox before. Works great.
[06:03] <Blaqlight> so your saying that fluxbox users can't use awn?
[06:03] <vozniakBR> i just reinstalled my ubuntu today and my LAN pings are 150-1000, in windows this is normal. what is happening, i use wired connection 8139too driver
[06:03] <cellofellow> how does Cairo-Dock not need compositor but Cairo-Clock does?
[06:04] <bazhang> cairodock can use, or not
[06:04] <zelrikriando> santiago, hello?
[06:04] <santiago> i need to choose the file between YUM, .tar.gx or rpm
[06:04] <santiago> sorry i was looking and the types of file
[06:04] <bazhang> santiago, for what file
[06:04] <santiago> i'm trying to install adobe flash player
[06:04] <zelrikriando> bazhang, he wants to install flash
[06:04] <Blaqlight> santiago: tar.gz
[06:05] <zelrikriando> santiago, tar.gz
[06:05] <bazhang> santiago, not that way
[06:05] <santiago> do i save it? or just open?
[06:05] <bazhang> santiago, do it through synaptic
[06:05] <cellofellow> santiago: apt://flashplugin-nonfree
[06:05] <santiago> how :( i'm very new at this
[06:05] <cellofellow> santiago: open that url in firefox
[06:05] <bazhang> santiago, see what cellofellow said
[06:05] <zelrikriando> santiago, I agree with santiago do it through synaptic package manager (in System > Admin )
[06:05] <zelrikriando> santiago, I agree with bazhang sorry :)
[06:06] <bazhang> haha
[06:06] <cellofellow> santiago: might also want to grab libflashsupport so that sound works.
[06:06] <bazhang> cypha, check search terms ubuntu hardy cairo dock for the youtube vid
[06:06] <zelrikriando> cellofellow, that package makes things unstable ... a bit....a least there is sound though :p
[06:07] <vozniakBR> i just reinstalled my ubuntu today and my LAN pings are 150-1000, in windows this is normal. what is happening, i use wired connection 8139too driver
[06:07] <bazhang> vozniakBR, this is normal? what is the problem then
[06:07] <cellofellow> zelrikriando: yeah, but flash and compiz don't like eachother. There's something to do with disabling ARGB (transparency) visuals that helps.
[06:07] <santiago> at synaptic package manager what do i do?
[06:08] <bazhang> santiago, search for flash
[06:08] <santiago> there are tons of files when i search "flash"
[06:08] <vozniakBR> bazhang: the problem are when i copy files over lan the transfer is slowwwwest!
[06:08] <zelrikriando> cellofellow, can you tell me about that ARGB ?
[06:08] <cellofellow> export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
[06:08] <bazhang> vozniakBR, using which protocol
[06:08] <harpreet> vozniakBR: increase the speed over Samba
[06:08] <cellofellow> zelrikriando: add that to /usr/bin/firefox
[06:08] <zelrikriando> cellofellow, I put 'flash' as a highlight word to learn about it :)
[06:08] <vozniakBR> bazhang: ipv4
[06:08] <vozniakBR> harpreet: how?
[06:09] <bazhang> vozniakBR, using samba?
[06:09] <cypha> bazhang, looks good
[06:09] <harpreet> vozniakBR: right click on samba share and increase bandwidth to 1000
[06:09] <vozniakBR> harpreet: whi my ping to other machines are so slow them?
[06:09] <cypha> bazhang, what does it mean that it doesn't haev the same task monitoring capabilities as AWN?
[06:09] <bazhang> cypha, likely no hdd temps etc
[06:10] <harpreet> vozniakBR: how are u connecting to other machines
[06:10] <cypha> still not sure what that means
[06:10] <cypha> hd temps?
[06:10] <bazhang> hard drive
[06:10] <santiago> cant install adobe falsh player :(
[06:10] <santiago> dont know how to
[06:10] <cypha> right, i know what it stands for
[06:10] <cypha> but what do you mean temps?
[06:10] <vozniakBR> harpreet: when i ping to any machines over LAN i get 100-1000ms over windows 1-2
[06:10] <cypha> temporary files on my harddrive?
[06:10] <bazhang> santiago, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:11] <santiago> dont know i'm not sure
[06:11] <cypha> what temporary files?
[06:11] <bazhang> temperatures
[06:11] <santiago> i installed ubuntu today
[06:11] <cypha> ohh
[06:11] <bazhang> santiago, then install it
[06:11] <harpreet> vozniakBR: its probably the network cards u have they probably cant carry signals over some limit
[06:11] <santiago> sudo apt-install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[06:12] <bazhang> yes santiago  but apt-get
[06:12] <zelrikriando> cellofellow, it didnt help, youtube just crashed again
[06:12] <cellofellow> how the heck is installing Flash so hard? The cheat package downloads the tarball and installs it for you.
[06:12] <santiago> almost :D
[06:12] <cellofellow> zelrikriando: oh, well I haven't tested it extensively and since my internet is a bit slow tend to avoid YouTube.
[06:12] <bazhang> cellofellow, its his first day :)
[06:12] <zelrikriando> cellofellow, ok
[06:12] <vozniakBR> harpreet: in ubuntu 7.4 7.10 and any other distro my network are normal, and over livecd
[06:13] <cypha> k, i do need a compositing manager for AWN
[06:13] <santiago> it says E: Invalid Operation: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:13] <arvind_khadri> vozniakBR, 8.04 uses ipv6 ... so somehow make it use ipv4...
[06:13] <vozniakBR> arvind_khadri: how?
[06:14] <cellofellow> santiago: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:14] <santiago> oh
[06:14] <cellofellow> santiago: I think you missed the install part
[06:14] <bazhang> santiago, check software sources in system admin and enable them then remove cd
[06:14] <arvind_khadri> vozniakBR, i dont know...actually i read somewhere that its not possible to do so...
[06:14] <OneLove> My hp laptop with a broadcom wireless can't see any networks.
[06:14] <OneLove> Can anyone help?
[06:15] <bazhang> !broadcom | OneLove
[06:15] <zelrikriando> cellofellow, I d recommend apt-get instead of aptitude...but that's what I have been told so...
[06:15] <santiago> whats the ubuntu restricted extras for?
[06:15] <tlove> hum
[06:15] <tlove> Oh hey
[06:15] <arvind_khadri> vozniakBR, so wait till your ISP switches to ipv6
[06:15] <bazhang> santiago, all the codecs etc
[06:15] <ManualOverDozer8> onelove: try iwlist scan
[06:15] <OneLove> lo doesn't support scanning
[06:16] <OneLove> eth0 doesn't support scanning
[06:16] <santiago> unable to lock the administration directory
[06:16] <santiago> :(
[06:16] <OneLove> no other cards here
[06:16] <bazhang> santiago, close add/remove or other
[06:16] <Rat409> i blacklisted ipv6 in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:16] <kernco> How do I set the resolution for the login window?
[06:16] <tlove> Does Ubuntu just naturally download faster then windows? it seems my Ubuntu pc downloads much faster then my windows one.
[06:16] <santiago> oh k
[06:16] <zelrikriando> santiago, make sure you dont have 453543 package managers opened...one at a time :)
[06:16] <cellofellow> zelrikriando: apt-get for a metapackage like restricted extras might actually be more advisable.
[06:17] <Guest9722> tlove: the internetz luvz linux
[06:17] <Svenstaro> tlove, if you have spyware on windows and stuff, yes it will indeed download a lot faster on ubuntu
[06:17] <harpreet> tlove: yes
[06:17] <tlove> Linux= <3
[06:17] <sleyermeister> I've got a problem installing ubuntu server 7.10 and 8.04. i've dl'd from both mirrors and through bittorrent and the iso's passed md5 checksum. 7.10 fails during installation after passing the disc integrity test and 8.04 fails the disc integrity.
[06:17] <santiago> zelrikriando, oh ok I will from now on :)
[06:17] <Svenstaro> sleyermeister, check the hardware, your isos are fine
[06:18] <Mr_Giraffe> hey, i'm looking for a media player that plays chiptunes (mod, sid, xm, it, etc) and such.  what media player should i use?
[06:18] <smokewon> Hey can someone please tell me where i could obtain the font thats used within this conky script here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5464842&postcount=3023
[06:18] <Svenstaro> sleyermeister, its usually the cables or compability when it comes to what youre experiencing
[06:18] <cellofellow> anyone try Flash 10 Beta? Does it crash firefox?
[06:18] <santiago> is this code i typed on terminal going to install flash player?
[06:19] <cellofellow> santiago: yes
[06:19] <tlove> whats the difference between flash 9 and flash 10 now?
[06:19] <ManualOverDozer8> santiago: what he had you install does numerous things for media content
[06:19] <sacul_sleep> 1
[06:19] <Rat409> OneLove: i had to do this and usendiswrapper here bcm94311 (rev 02)  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/218763
[06:20] <sleyermeister> i had 7.10 desktop version on it originally but i'm converting it to a file server and only added another hdd
[06:20] <santiago> oh ok
[06:20] <santiago> yes i read something about java while the terminal was processing
[06:21] <cellofellow> tlove: I think the biggest thing with Flash 10 is better codec (MPEG4) and hardware acceleration support.
[06:21] <kernco> How do I set the resolution for the login window?
[06:21] <LSD|Ninja> kernco: displayconfig-gtk
[06:21] <santiago> does it take long to get used to ubuntu?
[06:21] <LSD|Ninja> santiago: only if you insist on trying to work outside of the intended user group
[06:22] <tlove> i see
[06:22] <tlove> thanks
[06:22] <kernco> LSD|Ninja: displayconfig-gtk only changes the resolution when I'm logged into gnome, but the resolution of the login window is too big and goes off the screen
[06:23] <itai-michaelson> I have a file server in room A and a client in room B. I would like to add 3 wireless thin clients in room B (thus making the client in room B ,a server for the thin clients). Can I use Ubuntu for that and can I make the thin clients see the server in room A?.
[06:23] <zelrikriando> santiago, it depends on you I guess, didnt take too long to me
[06:23] <santiago> on terminal now i got some kind of licence agreement
[06:23] <santiago> how do i acept it?
[06:24] <LSD|Ninja> kernco: displayconfig-gtk will change the resolution of the input window *and * what you see when you log into GNOME (the one in preference only changes the GNOME res) but the virtual resolution I believe is a GDM issue. If you find out how to correct it, let me know
[06:24] <kernco> santiago: Hit tab, then enter
[06:24] <zelrikriando> santiago, you type 'yes'?
[06:24] <santiago> tab and enter worked
[06:24] <santiago> i could type in
[06:24] <zelrikriando> santiago, or something? :)
[06:24] <ManualOverDozer8> santiago: you have to accept them, or they wont install
[06:24] <bj_> anyone have any opinion on envynv or not?
[06:24] <santiago> ty kernco
[06:24] <liviu> hy guys!
[06:24] <liviu> Good Morning!
[06:24] <santiago> i couldnt type in **
[06:25] <zelrikriando> liviu, good evening
[06:25] <ManualOverDozer8> i think you can just type y
[06:25] <LSD|Ninja> bj_: I'd like it more if it didn't need to be updated when new drivers were released. As it is, it's not really much better than the hardware drivers panel
[06:25] <zelrikriando> santiago, any other question?
[06:25] <KevinOO> hello, what do i need to view videos on youtube?
[06:25] <liviu> :)
[06:25] <zelrikriando> KevinOO, talk to santiago ...he knows now :p
[06:25] <santiago> zelrikriando, not for now :D, but i'm sure there will be
[06:25] <liviu> 07:25 AM
[06:26] <bj_> LSD|Ninja you have ati card?
[06:26] <santiago> haha
[06:26] <plouffe> as of today my sound is gone entirely. I've tried switching pulseaudio on and off but no effect. (volume switch is turned up all the way)
[06:26] <santiago> yes i do know
[06:26] <plouffe> I can't find any cause
[06:26] <LSD|Ninja> bj_: not in the machine I have Ubuntu on, no
[06:26] <santiago> u need a flash player u can get it by sudo aptitude intall ubuntu-restringed-extras
[06:26] <santiago> am i right?
[06:27] <KevinOO> i did that santiago
[06:27] <zelrikriando> KevinOO, what is your problem? :)
[06:27] <santiago> well ask some1 else lol....... this is my first day on ubuntu :D
[06:27] <Mr_Giraffe> hmm, nobody knows?
[06:27] <dee> I had flash by default installation
[06:27] <dblick> mysql-server doesn't support tcp/ip + ssl connections by default. One way for me to get around this would be to distributed an SSH key that's specific for command="nc localhost 3306".  Any problems with this solution?
[06:27] <dee> of the latest stable
[06:27] <ManualOverDozer8> is "sudo apt-install ubuntu-restricted-extras" the same as "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[06:27] <zelrikriando> Mr_Giraffe, did you ask a question? :)
[06:28] <ManualOverDozer8> or even apt-ge t?
[06:28] <dblick> distribute*
[06:28] <cellofellow> ManualOverDozer8: both get the job done
[06:28] <KevinOO> zelrikriando, no video will play on youtube or other sites
[06:28] <ManualOverDozer8> thank you
[06:28] <Mr_Giraffe> oh, just that i'm looking for a media player that plays chiptunes (mod, sid, xm, it, etc) and such.  what media player should i use?
[06:28] <cellofellow> ManualOverDozer8: wait, not quite you need to do apt-get install blahblah
[06:28] <tlove> Alright i need to make a script button for the following: "#!/bin/sh SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz --replace" and im just lost on how to do that.
[06:28] <zelrikriando> KevinOO, and you got the extras packages?
[06:28] <MooCows> How do you setup things to autorun when you login , such as on windows under "startup" in the start menu
[06:28] <dee> ahh mod files
[06:28] <Agent_bob> does anyone here know where "mkinitramfs"  gets it's information of what device node to create as "/dev/root"  ???   i have rebuilt my initramfs image five times now each time trying to change something that might help "fstab, /dev/root /dev/.static/dev/root /etc/mkinitramfs/initramfs.conf  /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/*"   nothing seems to help.
[06:28]  * dee reminises
[06:28] <dee> :)
[06:29] <trashguy> Anyone compile wine 1.1.0 ?
[06:29] <zelrikriando> KevinOO, youtube doesnt ask you to install anything?
[06:29] <cellofellow> tlove: save the script somewhere, and make a custom app launcher on the panel that runs that file.
[06:29] <ManualOverDozer8> cello ok
[06:29] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d1085d6a1
[06:29] <tlove> cellofellow: alright thanks.
[06:30] <kernco> Ok, I fixed the login window resolution problem by editing xorg.conf
[06:30] <bj_> hey?
[06:30] <bj_> what happened
[06:30] <dee> Is it possible to resize an image file created with DD, while maintaining the boot sector and partition table???
[06:30] <Agent_bob> it's really anoying to have to setup a device node in the middle of the boot process every boot up.
[06:30] <cellofellow> tlove: oh, and make it executable. chmod +x foo/boar
[06:30] <KevinOO> zelrikriando, it did at first, and i installed gnash, but it wasnt working so i disabled it, and tried to download flash from adobe
[06:30] <bob3213243_> Okay, I'm dual booting Vista/Ubuntu (Vista was first install) and Now my Vista is unable to boot and has to be reinstalled. I want to install xp but my issue is that I can't lose anything on my Ubuntu side of things. Is there a way to copy an entire ubuntu install and reload it after I format the hard drive. Any ideas?
[06:30] <cellofellow> boar, haha, meant bar
[06:30] <plouffe> I don't even get the Ubuntu startup sound
[06:30] <zelrikriando> Mr_Giraffe, I am sorry, I dont know, did you try searching with google?
[06:31] <cellofellow> bob3213243: you could use dd to image your partitions onto an external hard drive
[06:31] <dblick> okay. i realize a problem with my solution... so, i want to set up mysql with TCP/IP support and SSL.  is there a good faq for this? (haven't found one)
[06:32]  * rimist YDL from ps3
[06:32] <Rat409> OneLove: i used this also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/188621
[06:32] <bob3213243> cellofellow okay, I'm really new to this so if you could explain a little more it would really help.
[06:32] <Rat409> whoops same link
[06:32] <LSD|Ninja> bj_: I was hooping to avoid that, heh. It's completely unacceptable in a distro like ubuntu to have to hand edit xorg.conf for something like this.
[06:32] <dee> thanks, cellofellow
[06:32] <dee> but, my image contains only 90MB data
[06:33] <dee> but is the size of the drive of course
[06:33] <dee> I want to shrink it (remove the free space)
[06:33] <dee> and keep the boot sector in tact
[06:33] <cellofellow> dee: lossless compression like gzip, bzip2, or lzma should see that all that empty space is redundant and compress it out.
[06:33] <cellofellow> dee: I've been meaning to try that, tell me how it works out.
[06:33] <dee> yes sir cellofellow
[06:34] <dee> you are correct
[06:34] <zelrikriando> KevinOO, try sudo apt-get remove --purge gnash .... then sudo apt-get install  ubuntu-restricted-extras libflashsupport
[06:34] <dee> but I aim to use these images ultimately for pxe booting workstations
[06:34] <dee> so shrinking them with gzip don't help me
[06:34] <dee> :)
[06:34] <Mr_Giraffe> hmm
[06:34] <bob3213243_> Okay, I'm dual booting Vista/Ubuntu (Vista was first install) and Now my Vista is unable to boot and has to be reinstalled. I want to install xp but my issue is that I can't lose anything on my Ubuntu side of things. Is there a way to copy an entire ubuntu install and reload it after I format the hard drive. Any ideas?
[06:34] <dee> (not enough ram in the terminals for all the empty space)
[06:34] <cellofellow> dee: I think that syslinux can uncompress bzip2 and gzip images.
[06:34] <santiago> zelrikriando, new question :D
[06:34] <Mr_Giraffe> well then zelrikriando, i tried exaile and it's in theory supposed to work with gstreamer, right?
[06:34] <zelrikriando> santiago, hmm ?
[06:34] <Mr_Giraffe> well i have gstreamer's good, bad, and ugly plugins installed
[06:34] <cellofellow> dee: but, that's kernel images these are filesystem images, right?
[06:34] <Mr_Giraffe> which cover chiptune support
[06:35] <zelrikriando> Mr_Giraffe, I dont know :)
[06:35] <Mr_Giraffe> but it's not opening the files :o
[06:35] <Mr_Giraffe> oh, what
[06:35] <santiago> zelrikriando, how do i get other gnome themes and then how do i change them?
[06:35] <dee> yes whole drive filesystem
[06:35] <Mr_Giraffe> well does anyone?
[06:35] <Rat409> !grub | bob3213243_
[06:35] <FloodBot1> Mr_Giraffe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:35] <dee> yes whole rive filesystem. I have a pxe boot system setup already with tftpd. syslinux creates ramdisk and loads image file into it
[06:35] <cellofellow> dee: I'm not sure what you're trying to do with it. PXE is something I haven't messed with but I know the basics of how it works.
[06:35] <x_Emma_x> ndergroundsoundz.net
[06:35] <dee> I boot thinstation linux to some clients already
[06:35] <dblick> i'm a little surprised that the available documentation on using mysql with tcp/ip and ssl looks so thin
[06:36] <zelrikriando> santiago, I suggest you to watch this : http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=jmA0VMd0w1E
[06:36] <altair> I'm in the process of installing ubuntu from the livecd... when I put it in and selected the install option it goes to a colorful screen with 4 bands of mixed colors which slowly contract.... then top contracting. Is this meant to happen or is there a problem?
[06:36] <bob3213243> Rat406 I know what grub is I need a solution to the loss of grub on  the install.
[06:36] <KevinOO> zelrikriando, thanks that worked :)
[06:36] <santiago> zelrikriando, ok watching
[06:36] <zelrikriando> santiago, that might help , you can still ask questions after (if I am not in bed :p )
[06:36] <cellofellow> altair: what video card do you have? sounds like the isolinux bootloader is not happy with it.
[06:37] <dee> PXE is awesome, cellofellow... when you got a pile of IBM terminals like me hehehe :)
[06:37] <zelrikriando> KevinOO, glad it worked...wasnt so sure it would do it :)
[06:37] <Relaed> 1
[06:37] <dee> I've been running thinstation on them for a good while
[06:37] <cellofellow> dee: so, you have the PXE NIC doing everything? No NFS or something like that happening?
[06:37] <dee> but I been trying to build my own image on a hard drive
[06:37]  * zelrikriando will get some tea
[06:37] <altair> cellowfellow: I don't honestly know what video card I have... what could I do to bypass this? The livecd loaded just fine and went ok until I selected install
[06:38] <dee> and dd it and boot that by pxe
[06:38] <dee> hehehe
[06:38] <cellofellow> hmmm
[06:38] <dee> no, the PXE nics download syslinux, create a ramdisk
[06:38] <dee> and then download the real file
[06:38] <dee> because the PXE spec only allows for 512KB technically :)
[06:38] <dee> that's why syslinux hehe
[06:39] <mhz128> hello world
[06:39] <Rat409> bob3213243: live-cd>chroot>run grub>root (hdx,y)>setup (hdx) or setup (hdx,y) for root part. >quit
[06:39] <altair> cellofellow: I know in backtrack I have to run xconf first... is there an equivilent I can run here?
[06:39] <mhz128> Does an application similar to "Lime Wire" exist for Ubuntu? P2P........?
[06:39] <bob3213243_> Okay, I'm dual booting Vista/Ubuntu (Vista was first install) and Now my Vista is unable to boot and has to be reinstalled. I want to install xp but my issue is that I can't lose anything on my Ubuntu side of things. Is there a way to copy an entire ubuntu install and reload it after I format the hard drive. Any ideas?  I want to increase the size of the Ubuntu partition anyway I guess I need to "dd" it but i have no idea wha
[06:39] <bob3213243_> t that means and I am not comfortable doing this without a little idea of what I am to expect and what to do when format the hard drive.
[06:39] <dee> don't reinstall vista, bob
[06:39] <cellofellow> dee: it downloads syslinux, which then grabs the kernel image and initramfs, right? That then can mount a remote NFS read only for the root. I think that's how it's supposed to work.
[06:39] <dee> yep
[06:40] <sisto> nice video zelrikriando, nice music
[06:40] <nickrud> bob3213243 the best way to handle that is to backup the data in your home, and use !clone during a reinstall
[06:40] <nickrud> !clone | bob3213243
[06:40] <dee> bob, use your windows vista cd
[06:40] <dee> and urn the startup repair option
[06:40] <ManualOverDozer8> cello: what is the difference between hardy and hardy-staging at Medibuntu.org ?
[06:40] <cellofellow> bob3213243: you can install Windows in your existing Windows partition. It'll overwrite the GRUB in your MBR but you can fix that with the Ubuntu CD.
[06:40] <dee> might have to run it 3 times to succeed
[06:40] <dee> but that will fix yoru vista
[06:40] <zelrikriando> sisto, thanks
[06:40] <dee> then these guys can help you get your linux back
[06:40] <ManualOverDozer8> moreso which one i need ?
[06:40] <dee> and make you a boot loader selection :)
[06:41] <rand0m-> i think i made a dumb mistake, when installing ubuntu on a laptop (dual-boot with xp) and when prompted to choose the partition size, i chose 45% of my drive for linux, and left 45% for windows - is there as easy a way to resize that as there was to set it ? (ie: slider-bar to define partition size )?
[06:41] <cellofellow> ManualOverDozer8: No idea what hardy_staging is, but sounds like experimental packages I just use hardy.
[06:41] <ManualOverDozer8> ok
[06:41] <bob3213243> cellofellow but I need to increase the ubuntu partition anyway.
[06:41] <cellofellow> well, I got to go to bed now. Nice talking everybody.
[06:42] <cellofellow> bob3213243: backup your data and just do a flat out reinstall, windows first then ubuntu
[06:42] <mikere> bob3213243: what dee is saying is good - but still backup any important data and do what nickrud says in case of catastrophe.
[06:42] <TeslaTony> mhz128: Yes. LimeWire has a Linux version, but I haven't had much luck installing it. Ktorrent, Azureus, and RTorrent are torrent handlers...not the same as LimeWire, but pretty good
[06:42] <dee> good night cellofellow
[06:42] <itai-michaelson> anybody has experience with setting thin clients on ubuntu
[06:42] <dee> thanks for the ear
[06:42] <dee> doh missed 'im :)
[06:43] <mhz128> TeslaTony: did you have to compile LimeWire yourself? ya, torrents are well taken care of in Linu
[06:43] <mhz128> x
[06:43] <mhz128> but i havent come across any P2P software, which can be useful at times
[06:43] <rand0m-> i think i made a dumb mistake, when installing ubuntu on a laptop (dual-boot with xp) and when prompted to choose the partition size, i chose 45% of my drive for linux, and left 45% for windows - is there as easy a way to resize that as there was to set it ? (ie: slider-bar to define partition size )?
[06:43] <TeslaTony> mhz128: No...I think that was part of the problem.
[06:43] <Borg^Queen> Hi people I have a dell inspiron 4000 and only the vesa video driver works
[06:43] <mhz128> TeslaTony: does linux LimeWire exist on any ubuntu repo's?
[06:44] <Borg^Queen> any ideas how to get the proper video driver to work?
[06:44] <nickrud> rand0m- install gparted , it uses a similar interface to the install for partion sizing
[06:44] <LSD|Ninja> Borg^Queen: what video card is in it?
[06:44] <zelrikriando> hi nickrud
[06:44] <Borg^Queen> ati rage mobility using the r128
[06:44] <mikere> itai-michaelson: what do you mean by thin client?  Web based front end?  Remote login/execution?
[06:44] <nickrud> zelrikriando hi there, bet you're here spreading fud again :)))
[06:44] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d1085d6a1
[06:44] <zelrikriando> nickrud, fud?
[06:44] <Agent_bob> does anyone here know where "mkinitramfs"  gets it's information of what device node to create as "/dev/root"  ???   i have rebuilt my initramfs image five times now each time trying to change something that might help "fstab, /dev/root /dev/.static/dev/root /etc/mkinitramfs/initramfs.conf  /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/*"   nothing seems to help.
[06:44] <TeslaTony> mhz128: Not that I am aware of. It's commercial, non-free, and not really open source.
[06:45] <nickrud> zelrikriando fear, uncertainty and doubt :)  A Joke ;)
[06:45] <zelrikriando> nickrud,  :p
[06:45] <TeslaTony> mhz128: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/general-linux-support/39850-how-install-limewire-ubuntu-debian.html
[06:45] <zelrikriando> nickrud, I start to get addicted to sleep deprivation
[06:45] <LSD|Ninja> mhz128: FrostWire might be available somewhere, it's a fork of LimeWire
[06:45] <itai-michaelson> mikere, i mean clients with no hard drive ( i could be using the wrong wording), we have an office that needs 4 computers but has no space for them, just has space for monitors and keybords
[06:45] <zelrikriando> nickrud, I just made some tea...it's almost 1am
[06:45] <tech0007> need your opinion, which is the best antivirus that i can install in hardy? i have windows PCs i want to scan for virii...thanks
[06:46] <Sidd> Anyone here with a Compaq/HP Laptop (Presarios or DV6000, etc) with Suspension and Hibernation that doesn't work? I've found a fix.. on the ubuntu forums I've posted it in the hardware/laptop section
[06:46] <nickrud> zelrikriando I'm checking mail prior to bed
[06:46] <Borg^Queen> tech0007:  I do that a lot
[06:46] <LSD|Ninja> Borg^Queen: Tried manually setting the r128 driver in displayconfig-gtk or does it flat-out not want to work?
[06:46] <mhz128> LSDNinja: cool, thanks bra
[06:46] <Borg^Queen> avast, clamav,
[06:46] <nickrud> Sidd what nick did you put it under, so I can refer people?
[06:46] <tech0007> Borg^Queen: so which one do u think is better?
[06:46] <Sidd> nickrud: SidStudios
[06:46] <Borg^Queen> LSD|Ninja: flat out doesn't want to work...
[06:46] <rand0m-> nickrud, do i need to be logged in as root to resize partition?
[06:47] <mikere> itai-michaelson: ah.  There's a server system I've used in the past.  One server, up to 20 or so clients.  Damned if I can remember the name to night though.
[06:47] <Borg^Queen> tech0007: both have their different strengths
[06:47] <zelrikriando> santiago, you ok ?
[06:47] <nickrud> rand0m- run   gksu gparted (and yes, you must use admin privs)
[06:47] <mikere> itai-michaelson: ah, got it - ltsp - linux terminal server project.
[06:47] <Borg^Queen> clamav has caught things avast has missed and Vice versa
[06:47] <itai-michaelson> mikere, ltsp . great , let me google it
[06:47] <tech0007> Borg^Queen: so u both have installed in one ubuntu machine?
[06:47] <aaltan> helloo! can anyone help me with a little database problem? prob the wrong place to ask but i use ubuntu.. what the hey....
[06:47] <rand0m-> nickrud, im sorta noob.. not sure what u mean by "run gksu gparted"
[06:48] <mikere> itai-michaelson: but generally have only used it to allow use of old hardware including a box for client.
[06:48] <Borg^Queen> tech0007: On my primary machine Ark Linux
[06:48] <Borg^Queen> but I have used it on kubuntu
[06:48] <Borg^Queen> use them in concert
[06:48] <aaltan> anyone?
[06:48] <itai-michaelson> mikere, i need it because there is no space for harddrive
[06:48] <nickrud> rand0m- applications->accessories->terminal, you would type   gksu gparted   there, it will ask for your password and won't echo any chars, type blindly :)
[06:48] <tech0007> Borg^Queen: ok tnx, appreciate that
[06:48] <TeslaTony> marmelaati: Nice quit message
[06:48] <mikere> itai-michaelson: you could just join #ltsp here although there's not always someone awake there this time of night.
[06:48] <Borg^Queen> tech0007: aye lad, good luck
[06:49] <Borg^Queen> LSD|Ninja: I have tried to edit it in nano with no success
[06:49] <itai-michaelson> mikere, thanks (its day time here,shanghai)
[06:49] <Borg^Queen> thought it might be a res problem, no luck, it wasn't
[06:49] <mikere> itai-michaelson: if jammcq or similar knowledge level is around they'll know where to point you.
[06:49] <yaris123456789> why is it that when i go to the page, and look at source, i can see the forms. however doing mech-dump on that page, will detect no form fields....what is going on ?
[06:50] <Agent_bob> nobody knows  ;/
[06:50] <Borg^Queen> ?
[06:50] <BeepII> Hey I got a question...
[06:50] <itai-michaelson> mikere, thank you, we are talking GUI here right?
[06:51] <BeepII> When I shut down, my computer sometimes gives me some messages about a connection I think...\
[06:51] <BeepII> anyway, it just stops on a terminal-like screen and won't shut down
[06:51] <BeepII> It's not terminal though
[06:51] <rand0m-> nickrud, i must be doing something wrong, as it won't let me resize anything it seems.
[06:51] <BeepII> ... I mean, when I push a button, it'll come up w/ symbols
[06:51] <Borg^Queen> BeepII: do you have any open apps?
[06:51] <Borg^Queen> Like a video app?
[06:51] <BeepII> No...
[06:52] <BeepII> Pidgin maybe
[06:52] <Borg^Queen> try shutting down all the apps manually before shutting down
[06:52] <Alan_M> BeepII, when we say that we mean open applications before you shut down...do you have any?
[06:52] <nickrud> rand0m- if I remember correctly, you can't move the beginning of the ext3 partition, or the ntfs partition. You can only stretch them
[06:52] <BeepII> I know
[06:52] <Alan_M> BeepII, just making sure ;)
[06:52] <BeepII> xD thanks
[06:52] <rand0m-> nickrud, basically i want to shrink my ext3 drive so i have more room on ntfs, since i can access the ntfs while running linux but not the other way around
[06:52] <Borg^Queen> Alan_M: thanks
[06:53] <rand0m-> ... not as easily anyways
[06:53] <Rolcol> Are there any major problems to using 64 bit Ubuntu rather than 32 bit?
[06:53] <BeepII> Ok, second question.  Does Ubuntu have anything similar to the task manager in windows
[06:53] <BeepII> where I can track CPU & RAM usage?
[06:53] <Alan_M> BeepII, yup
[06:53] <Borg^Queen> top
[06:53] <BeepII> and what's using how much
[06:53] <BeepII> ALan_M  What is it?
[06:53] <nickrud> rand0m- sure you can access both, use  fs-driver.org in windows. It allows access to the ext3 partition
[06:53] <BeepII> :)
[06:53] <Alan_M> BeepII, top or system monitor :)
[06:53] <tech0007> BeepII: system monitor
[06:53] <BeepII> how do I access that?
[06:54] <Rolcol> BeepII: System > Administration > System Monitor
[06:54] <Alan_M> BeepII, its under system admini....blah yeah :)
[06:54] <rand0m-> nickrud, still - i'd rather have all my media on one partition, and the vast majority is already on ntfs.. so id rather just like like 10gb or 15gb for the linux partition
[06:54] <BeepII> ooh.
[06:54] <Alan_M> heh, i got a little lag here :)
[06:54] <rand0m-> and have the rest ntfs
[06:54] <BeepII> ok, Thanks guys
[06:54] <Alan_M> BeepII, sure thing buddy :)
[06:54] <Borg^Queen> ok I can't find any info on this video problem
[06:55] <BeepII> Ok, on the system monitor, it has a memory & swap history
[06:55] <BeepII> .. what's swap mean?
[06:55] <nitrus^> i just upgraded to hardy from dapper and my tulip card keeps giving me SIOCSIFFLAGS: Invalid argument when i do a simple ifconfig eth1 up
[06:55] <nitrus^> anyone know what would cause that?
[06:55] <Alan_M> BeepII, that means an extra space of your hard drive if your ubuntu memory gets full.
[06:55] <nickrud> !staff
[06:55] <zelrikriando> grrr
[06:55] <Borg^Queen> oh this is fun
[06:55] <Alan_M> whoa
[06:55] <Rolcol> BeepII: swap is like windows' pagefil.sys (i may be wrong on the name).  Like alan_m said, it's like RAM on your hard drive.  It's slower than actual ram though.
[06:55] <seanp2k2> what is happening
[06:55] <Alan_M> havent seen this in a long time.
[06:55] <seanp2k2> chan takeover?
[06:56] <delfick> hello, I've set up a lamp server on ubuntu hardy and I want to be able to setup a virtual host that points to a folder in my home directory... is it possible? and if so, how? (cause I keep getting 403:Forbidden)
[06:56] <BeepII> oooh ok.
[06:56] <TeslaTony> Hrm...my guess is DOS attack
[06:56] <Alan_M> just chill everyone, its probably gonna be over soon :)
[06:56] <BeepII> also, is there a way to see what's using up all my CPU power?
[06:56] <Rolcol> can we set the channel to registered nicks only?
[06:56] <rand0m-> wow some people are lame
[06:56] <seanp2k2> people seriously need to get a new hobby
[06:56] <nitrus^> how irritating
[06:56] <zelrikriando> same ip for everyone
[06:56] <nitrus^> did someone not get the answer they wanted or something
[06:56] <ManualOverDozer8> hey, free ip :P
[06:56] <Rolcol> BeepII, you can sort by cpu usage in the processes list
[06:57] <zelrikriando> do : /ignore<EMAIL_ADDRESS>all
[06:57] <seanp2k2> you guys are like the nicest people out of any support community, and yet you get this crap
[06:57] <Rolcol> ah
[06:57] <Rolcol> finally the bot kicks in
[06:57] <Alan_M> yay :D
[06:57] <hosk> what is going on
[06:57] <Borg^Queen> A wanker
[06:57] <hotmonkeyluv> hack attakcs?
[06:57] <Alan_M> its all over, everyone back to work :)
[06:57] <TeslaTony> BeepII: Double-click the system monitor. There's a task manager in there that shows processes and usage
[06:57] <Rolcol> It might continue after -R
[06:58] <Borg^Queen> Alan_M: I think I suffered a work related injure during that. I'm suing!
[06:58] <Alan_M> Rolcol, we will deal with it then, for now just go back to what you were doing before the guy with too much time on his hands got in :)
[06:58] <seanp2k2> d
[06:58] <Borg^Queen> anyway, anyone else encountered problems with rage mobility?
[06:58] <seanp2k2> k line, WOO
[06:58] <Rolcol> This is my most favorite thing to control on my server.
[06:58] <rand0m-> gonna be impossible to get help now
[06:59] <nitrus^> ok lets try again.  i just upgraded to hardy from dapper drake and i have a tulip card that was initially set as eth2.  i edited the udev rules and now it's on eth1, which is what i want.  but anytime i do ifconfig eth1 up it gives me an invalid argument error "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Invalid argument" anyone have any ideas?  i really need to get this fixed
[06:59] <rand0m-> am i able to resize my 35gb ext3 partition down to 15gb to free up space on the ntfs partition ?
[07:00] <nitrus^> it was doing the same even when it was on eth2
[07:00] <Borg^Queen> rand0m-: parted, with either gparted and qtparted as a gui
[07:00] <Borg^Queen> word of warning, USE windows to expand the ntfs
[07:00] <Rolcol> Borg^Queen: I learned that the hard way
[07:00] <Rolcol> many hours lost
[07:00] <hotmonkeyluv> rand0m-:  I'd suggest using partitionmagic, it's an ISO from norton, really nice utility!
[07:01] <Borg^Queen> Rolcol: I've seen it, never used windows
[07:01] <Rolcol> I imaged the external hard drive before I messed with it though.
[07:01] <Borg^Queen> only repair them
[07:01] <nickrud> rand0m- just remember, you can't move the beginning of the ext3 partition
[07:01] <Borg^Queen> well retrieve the data anyway
[07:01] <Borg^Queen> hotmonkeyluv: aye, nice choice
[07:01]  * hotmonkeyluv bows
[07:01] <Rolcol> Borg^Queen: you retrieve data after viruses attack?
[07:01] <Borg^Queen> Yes
[07:02] <Borg^Queen> I run a small linux shop, usually don't have any problems
[07:02] <Borg^Queen> this is my first time out trying ubuntu
[07:02] <Borg^Queen> hit my first problem
[07:02] <Rolcol> What do you use normally?
[07:02] <nickrud> !enter
[07:02] <Rolcol> gentoo?
[07:02] <Borg^Queen> Ark Linux
[07:03] <Rolcol> Can you usually answer most windows questions/problems, Borg^Queen?
[07:03] <Borg^Queen> ubottu: auto carriage return thing, I'll see if I can fix it.
[07:03] <Borg^Queen> Rolcol: Yes, but usually with "Install Linux"
[07:03] <Borg^Queen> Ah a bot...
[07:04] <nickrud> Borg^Queen not really an issue right now, not a lot of questions running. Just keep it in mind :)
[07:04] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[07:04] <ManualOverDozer8> i messed with a linux partition once, lost 100 gig of info and both OS > win/lin
[07:04] <furseiseki> testing
[07:04] <furseiseki> 1
[07:04] <furseiseki> 2
[07:04] <furseiseki> 3
[07:04] <Borg^Queen> nickrud: Understood... CR error fixed
[07:04] <FloodBot1> furseiseki: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:04] <Rolcol> Borg^Queen:  any "defective users" that come in with problems that shouldn't really be "problems"?
[07:04] <furseiseki> D:
[07:04] <Borg^Queen> Rolcol: ?
[07:04] <Llewxam> um .. need some help here. i think i screwed up my install of hardy. somehow ended up putting intrepid in here and now my resolution, all of the compiz effects aren't working. is there a way to fix this back to how it was without losing any data?
[07:05] <hovo> can someone help me download and install beryl on ubuntu
[07:05] <nitrus^> anyone know what id be getting a SIOCSIFFLAGS: Invalid argument on a simple ifconfig eth1 up?
[07:05] <sugi> what's the best GBA emulator for ubunt 8.04 hardy?
[07:05] <Borg^Queen> Oh I see, very few. I was actually hit with the coffee cup holder thing.
[07:05] <Rolcol> The disk drive?
[07:05] <furseiseki> lol
[07:05] <Borg^Queen> I felt cheap
[07:05] <Kubuntu_> Hi anyone know how to update Hardy to use 2.6.26 kernel ?
[07:05] <Borg^Queen> He used it as a cup holder and it crushed is expresso
[07:06] <Rolcol> haha!
[07:06] <xTheGoat121x> I've got an interesting situation going on with my girlfriend's Hardy machine...
[07:06] <Rolcol> wow....
[07:06] <Borg^Queen> any ideas on the rage mobility issue?
[07:06] <Borg^Queen> the forum wasn't helpful
[07:06] <furseiseki> raaaaeeeg?
[07:07] <nickrud> marmelaati that part message would be better if someone could click the link in xchat ;)
[07:07] <Rolcol> Intrepid's screenshots look great :D
[07:07]  * chalcedony smiles
[07:07] <Rolcol> Welcome back, Beefeater
[07:07] <Rolcol> ...
[07:07] <Rolcol> *BeepII
[07:07] <zelrikriando> xTheGoat121x, ?
[07:07] <chalcedony> how can i get my computer to automatically grab an ip from the router?
[07:07] <Rolcol> Autocomplete sucks...
[07:07] <FloodBot1> Rolcol: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:07] <LinuxIST> anyone know how to resolve the ssb and ndiswrapper conflict?
[07:07] <xTheGoat121x> According to glxinfo, direct rendering is working...
[07:07] <BeepII> Sorry I disappeared... apparently your nick has to be registered now...
[07:07] <murlidhar> Rolcol: if u are a newbie in linux , it is better to wait since it is bleeding
[07:08] <chalcedony> how can i get my computer to automatically grab an ip from the router?
[07:08] <xTheGoat121x> but if I hit fglrxinfo... it segfaults.
[07:08] <Borg^Queen> it should on its own
[07:08] <Rolcol> murlidhar, Im not so new.  I've learned to use the terminal more effectively.
[07:08] <chalcedony> Borg^Queen it seems to be fixed/set?
[07:08] <xTheGoat121x> And, of course, Compiz won't start.
[07:08] <nickrud> chalcedony NetworkManager should do that for you automatically
[07:08] <Llewxam> anyone? please? wanna get my system back to how it was.
[07:08] <murlidhar> Rolcol: well then  u could do what i have done , I dual booted
[07:08] <chalcedony> nickrud where?
[07:08] <nickrud> xTheGoat121x try running  compiz --replace  in a terminal, you get reasonable error messages
[07:09] <Rolcol> murlidhar: virtualbox?
[07:09] <nickrud> chalcedony no work on your part at all . You are running gnome?
[07:09] <murlidhar> Rolcol: my p4 doesn't let me VB
[07:09] <Borg^Queen> chalcedony: pardon?
[07:09] <xTheGoat121x> I get a series of messages... including that Xgl is not present... and, even more frightening...
[07:10] <Rolcol> I didn't know I had a 64 bit capable processor (Intel Celeron T5500) until last week....  I've been using this laptop for over a year.
[07:10] <nickrud> xTheGoat121x xgl not present is good ...
[07:10] <xTheGoat121x> /usr/bin/compiz: 378: /usr/local/bin/compiz not found
[07:10] <LinuxIST> anyone know how to resolve the ssb and ndiswrapper conflict?
[07:10] <Rolcol> But... what are the major problems of 64 bit ubuntu versus 32 bit?
[07:10] <Borg^Queen> ok I give up
[07:10] <Borg^Queen> good luck the rest of you
[07:10] <chalcedony> Borg^Queen it won't connect to the web. ive been through all kinds of things. is there a way to get it to grab a new ip without rebooting?
[07:10] <nitrus^> anyone else have an issue with the tulip driver?
[07:10] <murlidhar> Rolcol: all core2duo's are 64bit
[07:10] <zelrikriando> xTheGoat121x, try reinstalling the compiz packages
[07:11] <Rolcol> I know that now.  I'm an idiot, murlidhar
[07:11] <nickrud> xTheGoat121x zelrikriando's idea has merit
[07:11] <nitrus^> i have a tulip card using irq 5 and it's not showing up in /proc/interrupts
[07:11] <xTheGoat121x> Will do...
[07:11] <Borg^Queen> chalcedony: I don't know if ubuntu has it but try from a root terminal
[07:11] <Borg^Queen> dhclient
[07:11] <nickrud> chalcedony are you using gnome?
[07:11] <murlidhar> Rolcol: while core (1) duo is not
[07:11] <chalcedony> Rolcol 64 bits is faster, there is less software for 64 bits and flash is a pain
[07:11] <Borg^Queen> good luck lad
[07:11] <chalcedony> nickrud yes
[07:12] <nickrud> chalcedony   and you are using a wired connection?
[07:12] <Rolcol> Another question:  when you guys upgrade to newer versions of ubuntu, do you usually just update or do you do a clean install?
[07:12] <cypha> do desktop screenlets require compiz?
[07:12] <_2> boot problem  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d80b31d8
[07:12] <zelrikriando> xTheGoat121x, tell me how it goes
[07:12] <ManualOverDozer8> rolcol: i have seen some say, some things work no longer after upgrade. i myself, would do a complete fresh install
[07:13] <TeslaTony> Rolcol: I do clean installs, but I also happen to be a little weird. Having said that, sometimes bugs crop up with updates
[07:13] <chalcedony> nickrud yes
[07:13] <nickrud> chalcedony    in a terminal,    ps -A | grep NetworkManger   (caps matter) do you get back a line saying NetworkManager ?
[07:13] <xTheGoat121x> zelrikriando, workin on it even as we speak.
[07:14] <_2> TeslaTony my boot issues came with a security update  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d80b31d8
[07:14] <nickrud> chalcedony that was   ps -A | NetworkManager   (typo)
[07:14] <cypha> do you need compiz for screenlets?
[07:14] <chalcedony> the history is a bit long but ive replaced and rebooted router, wires, switch and i'm about to make comcast replace the modem. since i got the router last night, it won't connect to the web. nor will my husband's computer
[07:14] <Sidd> Is there a channel where I can discuss scientology?
[07:14] <neil_d> with sound juicer, under the 'Output format' MP3 isn't listed, but when I 'edit profiles' MP3 is listed and active, how do I set the output format to MP3 ?
[07:14] <Rolcol> I'm just asking to see what most people do.  I clean install too.  I need an external HD to backup my home folder.  Are there any problems when you have a partition for home?
[07:14] <ManualOverDozer8> Sidd type /list
[07:14] <nickrud> chalcedony kinda hard to help if you won't help me troubleshoot
[07:15] <murlidhar> Sidd: google it
[07:15] <chalcedony> nickrud ill be glad to
[07:15] <nickrud> chalcedony so, run the command I gave. That will tell me if you're running the right software
[07:15] <murlidhar> did anybody install bmpanel here ?
[07:16] <ManualOverDozer8> is it my connection or is getting the w32codec slow ?
[07:16] <rand0m-> ... i have to buy partition magic ?
[07:16] <murlidhar> i mean compile it successfully since the author has said that it works in ubuntu
[07:16] <zelrikriando> xTheGoat121x, is it fixed now? =)
[07:16] <murlidhar> rand0m-: no
[07:16] <xTheGoat121x> zelrikriando, I restarted, just to be sure.
[07:16] <cypha> does Beryl and GTK themes install with aero??
[07:17] <chalcedony> nickrud it's grepping
[07:17] <rand0m-> murlidhar: shareware is fully functional or what ?
[07:17] <murlidhar> rand0m-: we have gparted which can do most of the works that partition magic can do
[07:17] <zelrikriando> cypha, what do you mean?
[07:17] <rand0m-> oh
[07:17] <nickrud> chalcedony it should take less than a second
[07:17] <cypha> http://gnomestyle.blogspot.com/2007/05/make-ubuntu-look-like-vista.html
[07:17] <rand0m-> murlidhar: i was just in here and was told to resize ntfs drive while in windows
[07:17] <_2> random- if you are trying to resize a windarz partition   boot windows set pagefile off and defrag.  then resize it.
[07:17] <cypha> there you go zelrikriando
[07:18] <chalcedony> er nickrud Process ID list syntax error
[07:18] <itai-michaelson> cypha yes
[07:18] <nickrud> chalcedony helps if I give correct comands. It's late here:    ps -A | grep NetworkManager   <--- this one is correct
[07:18] <_2> random-   the "resizing"  can be done from gparted
[07:18] <cypha> cool...have you done that itai-michaelson ?
[07:18] <neil_d> with sound juicer, under the 'Output format' MP3 isn't listed, but when I 'edit profiles' MP3 is listed and active, how do I set the output format to MP3 ?
[07:18] <chalcedony> nickrud okies :)
[07:18] <murlidhar> rand0m-: there are several application in windows that can resize ntfs partitions
[07:18] <itai-michaelson> cypha no...
[07:18] <ManualOverDozer8> partition magic works real nice for windows, and can create linux partitions as well
[07:18] <zelrikriando> cypha, I think by 'beryl' they meant emerald theme
[07:18] <_2> random- but you need to run windows and defrag with pagefile turned off
[07:18] <itai-michaelson> cypha but you need a good graphic card for the 3d efects
[07:18] <cypha> not sure what you mean?
[07:19] <itai-michaelson> cypha, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[07:19] <zelrikriando> cypha, the window decorator... you need to use emerald I think
[07:19] <cypha> 8.04
[07:19] <chalcedony> nickrud 4942? 00:00:00 NetworkManager and 4956? 00:00:00 NetworkManagerD
[07:19] <murlidhar> rand0m-: wait i will u the link
[07:19] <cypha> not sure what a window decorator is
[07:19] <rand0m-> _2: not sure waht you mean by "pagefile turned off "
[07:20] <nickrud> chalcedony ok, good so far. Now, do you have the network control icon in your systray?
[07:20] <itai-michaelson> cypha, as far as i know "beryl" is not used in 8.04. they use something called "compiz fusion"
[07:20] <zelrikriando> cypha, in the compiz options...there is a 'window decorator' tab
[07:20] <cypha> yeah, i used to have compiz
[07:20] <cypha> but it's buggy
[07:20] <_2> rand0m- it's the file windows uses for vertual memory
[07:20] <ManualOverDozer8> random: you dont have to turn off the pagefile. windows will only create one for you if you do decide to even try it
[07:21] <nickrud> chalcedony you can hit  alt-f2  and run   nm-applet --sm-disable       to get one.
[07:21] <itai-michaelson> cypha, to change the appearence of compiz you have two option one is "metacity" (the default option" and one is "emarald" (which you nee dto enable"
[07:21] <zelrikriando> cypha, 'beryl' is obsolete...and named like this in gnome-look for emerald type of theme
[07:21] <xTheGoat121x> zelrikriando, bad news... same output
[07:21] <zelrikriando> xTheGoat121x, grr
[07:21] <_2> ManualOverDozer8 has he never ran windows on that box/install ?
[07:21] <chalcedony> nickrud what does it look like?
[07:21] <zelrikriando> xTheGoat121x, could you pastebin the output please?
[07:21] <murlidhar> rand0m-: do u have a good fast connection that can download a cd
[07:21] <xTheGoat121x> Ummm sure... hold on a second.
[07:22] <itai-michaelson> cypha, the link you are following is old
[07:22] <xTheGoat121x> What's the pastebin link again?  It's been a long time.
[07:22] <cypha> itai-michaelson, how do you enable emerald?
[07:22] <ManualOverDozer8> _2 i am very experienced in windows, unlike linux, in which i am not so familiar. besides, that is for #windows
[07:22] <cypha> ok itai, i won't follow it then
[07:22] <nickrud> chalcedony a little computer screen.   if you run   alt-f2   nm-applet --sm-disable, you should get one. If you have two, well, we'll fix it :)
[07:22] <rand0m-> murlidhar: i have a good highspeed connection yeah
[07:22] <itai-michaelson> cypha i can't remember , let me google it for a sec
[07:22] <beaver___> re all :p
[07:22] <cypha> k thanks
[07:22] <zelrikriando> cypha, http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=jmA0VMd0w1E that might be useful for you
[07:23] <nitrus^> anyone having issues with tulip module and hardy?
[07:23] <zelrikriando> cypha, if you have more questions, I can help
[07:23] <_2> ManualOverDozer8 ok.   well i booted windarz vesta one time and pagefile was on by default there.   and i was assuming he had ran it already.
[07:23] <itai-michaelson> cypha, read this: http://openswitch.org/2008/04/28/how-to-enable-emerald-in-hardy-heron-804/
[07:23] <zbyszek> hello
[07:23] <_2> and that may be vender specifiv too
[07:24] <zbyszek> poland ?
[07:24] <xTheGoat121x> zelrikriando, where's pastebin again?
[07:24] <beaver___> une question bete j'ai délete ma barre d'outils d'en bas (ou il y'a la corbeille) comment la remettre please :(
[07:24] <nickrud> !pl | zbyszek
[07:24] <murlidhar> rand0m-: are u totally new to linux?
[07:24] <zelrikriando> itai-michaelson, thanks for the link, it's completing mine :)
[07:24] <zelrikriando> xTheGoat121x, google > pastebin
[07:24] <zelrikriando> xTheGoat121x, once you pasted and posted your stuff, write the link here
[07:25] <rand0m-> murlidhar: Yes quite.  Only been using ubuntu and the very simplest of desktop envrionments
[07:25] <xTheGoat121x> zelrikriando, that's what I thought... jsut wnted to confirm.  It's been a really long time since I've used pastebin
[07:25] <itai-michaelson> zelrikriando, actually i remember reading about some compiz-icon that one should add so its easier to switch between metacity and emerald, but cant find it now
[07:26] <xTheGoat121x> zelrikriando, http://pastebin.com/m359a4daf
[07:26] <chalcedony> what does the 'network' icon look like?
[07:26] <murlidhar> rand0m-: if u have already installed ubuntu then it is better to install a command based application called ntfsprogs
[07:26] <murlidhar> rand0m-: it can resize the ntfs partitions  though i am not sure if is safe
[07:26] <rand0m-> murlidhar: im in windows right now
[07:27] <rand0m-> like i said - i was just in here while in my gnome desktop but was told to do ntfs partition resizing through windows
[07:27] <zelrikriando> Checking for nVidia: not present ....hmmm xTheGoat121x that looks bad
[07:27] <zelrikriando> xTheGoat121x, you got the nvidia stuff installed?
[07:28] <zbyszek> nie mam nikodo na #ubuntu pl?
[07:28] <xTheGoat121x> zelrikriando, It shouldn't have installed the nVidia stuff... it's an ATI-based system.
[07:29] <jpds> !pl | zbyszek
[07:29] <zelrikriando> xTheGoat121x, ok that s weird
[07:30] <visi_> anyone know how to configure that when I plug my external hdd I got the backup start ?
[07:30] <chalcedony> what does the 'network' icon look like?
[07:31] <murlidhar> rand0m-: http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/downloads/Paragon_Partition_Manager_Personal_28937_p/
[07:31] <murlidhar> rand0m-: http://www.fast-download.info/7tools_partition_manager.html
[07:31] <murlidhar> rand0m-: use the second one it is better
[07:31] <FloodBot1> murlidhar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:31] <chalcedony> nickrud did you leave?
[07:31] <sysdoc> Trying to import reg file into wine but when I use recode I get this error 'ISO-10646-UCS-2..ANSI_X3.4-1968". Anyone have a work around for this error output?
[07:31] <zelrikriando> xTheGoat121x, you know what, I dont have anything in my /usr/local/bin/
[07:31] <_2> two little monitors chalcedony ?
[07:31] <xTheGoat121x> zelrikriando, there's an understatement.
[07:31] <nickrud> chalcedony no, I'm waiting to see if you have the network control applet. You never said one way or the other
[07:31] <nickrud> chalcedony but I'm not keeping an eye on the scroll, you need to use my nick
[07:32] <xTheGoat121x> zelrikriando, me either.
[07:32] <zelrikriando> xTheGoat121x, paste your pastebin again to everyone, I cannot help you much more than that
[07:32] <chalcedony> AAAAAA he said 'tray' .. i have them at the top :)
[07:32] <mauhur> tray
[07:32] <nickrud> chalcedony it looks like a little computer monitor.
[07:32] <rand0m-> murlidhar: dead downloads
[07:32] <chalcedony> nickrud i have them.. at the top.
[07:32] <xTheGoat121x> zelrikriando, I appreciate any thoughts you may have had, so thanks.
[07:33] <xTheGoat121x> To everyone out there... when I try to run Compiz on my laptop... this is what I get:  http://pastebin.com/m359a4daf
[07:33] <chalcedony> mirc does not higlight sentences with my nick in them :(
[07:33] <sysdoc> Trying to import reg file into wine but when I use recode I get this error 'ISO-10646-UCS-2..ANSI_X3.4-1968". Anyone have a work around for this error output?
[07:33] <sysdoc> Anyone?
[07:33] <Er0x> xTheGoat121x: config Xorg
[07:34] <nerketur> Does anyone know where I can find the right (and latest) display drivers (for Ubuntu) for my Intel-based video card?
[07:34] <rand0m-> chalcedony: add $nick to your notify list
[07:34] <nickrud> chalcedony good. Now,  unplug the network cable from the computer. We're going to see what the system does when you plug it back in. After you unplug it, type    tail -f /var/log/syslog   in a terminal, then plug it back in. You'll get a lot of messages, wait about 15 seconds then put the output on paste.ubuntu.com
[07:34] <KintaRo> selam
[07:34] <Smegzor> Do I need the avahi daemon?  Will my network/internet work without it?
[07:34] <xTheGoat121x> Er0x, seriously?
[07:34] <Er0x> xTheGoat121x: ya
[07:34] <LSD|Ninja> nerketur: the Intel display drivers are open source so as long as you're up to date with xorg you're fine
[07:34] <nickrud> chalcedony at least, you'd better get a bunch of output ;)
[07:35] <rand0m-> murlidhar: not sure if you got my last response.  the download link for the 2nd program was dead
[07:35] <chalcedony> nickrud ok
[07:35] <zelrikriando> xTheGoat121x, if you get to solve it at some point let me know
[07:35] <Er0x> xTheGoat121x: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_compiz-fusion, thats all u need
[07:35] <Guest540> the linux kernel upgrade can't boot.  I have to use *.19* to get on.  where do i begin to diagnose the problem?
[07:35] <murlidhar> rand0m-: then probably u have to download from the first link
[07:35] <zelrikriando> Er0x, isnt it a gentoo page?
[07:36] <Er0x> zelrikriando: do u see any diff in configs? is linux man
[07:36] <wbmj> Smegzor: you should have network connection without the avahi-daemon....however Gnome uses it to run some internal services
[07:36] <tovella1> xTheGoat121x: your output (pastebin) looks like the nvidia driver is not installed (or not working).
[07:36] <zelrikriando> Er0x, yeah...but but but...ok
[07:36] <murlidhar> rand0m-: it is a shareware but i guess should care of ur needs
[07:36] <Er0x> tovella1: thats becouse xorg no aigl xgl configed
[07:36] <zelrikriando> tovella1, he doesnt have nvidia but AiT
[07:36] <Adondai> can anyone suggest a more windows, or vista like file manager for gnome? dont like the dedault for ubuntu too much
[07:36] <zelrikriando> tovella1, ATI even
[07:36] <xTheGoat121x> tovella1, what zelrikriando said.
[07:36] <Er0x> with ATi ive played like 4h xD
[07:36] <Smegzor> wbmj: hmm..  well my network keeps turning to custard and going no faster than 5k/sec for hours on end.  The only likely cause I can find is Avahi.
[07:37] <rand0m-> murlidhar: im just telling you the link you provided me had no download .. showed the page offering download but the download link gave 404 error.. in process of downloading the first program you recommended.  no harm, no foul
[07:37] <robert-woes> anyone know how to determine why this kernel won't boot?
[07:37] <chalcedony> nickrud er i can't pastebin it .. it's not seeing the web
[07:37] <zelrikriando> Er0x, seems like ATI is still not working out of the box :)
[07:37] <tovella1> xTheGoat121x: which ATI card?
[07:37] <Er0x> xTheGoat121x: after u make it to get only missing mipmaps textures error and more 2 about screen let me knot
[07:37] <murlidhar> rand0m-: k ,
[07:38] <Er0x> zelrikriando: ya
[07:38] <sysdoc> Adondai, Thunar
[07:38] <Er0x> zelrikriando: mimaps are broken on ATi
[07:38] <xTheGoat121x> tovella1, ummm... good question, not sure.  It's a mobile radeon, I know that much.
[07:39] <rand0m-> murlidhar: actually... download link for both programs failed
[07:39] <nickrud> chalcedony heh. can you use a usb stick to move the data to the machine you're on? Or, what you're looking for are the dhcp messages, talking about offers, getting ip addresses, or not getting an offer and sleeping (that means no offer of connection from router)
[07:39] <tovella1> xTheGoat121x: which model of notebook?
[07:39] <zelrikriando> xTheGoat121x, I am not sure but I think if you type something like : lspci | grep ATI   it will tell you what ATI it is
[07:39] <Adondai> sysdoc, thanks
[07:40] <xTheGoat121x> tovella1, it's a Gateway ML3109
[07:40] <Adondai> what advantages do you have by installing ubuntu in its own partition rather then through wubu?
[07:40] <chalcedny> nickrud: i take it back, it WORKS http://paste.ubuntu.com/31186/
[07:40] <zelrikriando> Ademan, Wubi is more parasitic I would say
[07:41] <tovella1> xTheGoat121x: ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M ?
[07:41] <xTheGoat121x> Sounds right.  :)
[07:41] <nickrud> chalcedny ah, good.
[07:43] <zelrikriando> ok I should go to bed now
[07:43] <robert-woes> how do i look at my boot logs?
[07:44] <zelrikriando> bye all
[07:44] <mib_5idsbz> is the current ati driver ok wit suspend, 3d, compiz, no video tearing?
[07:44] <chalcedny> nickrud: is this ok or what do i need to do to other boxes and will it keep working?
[07:45] <koshari> anyone know he to use crontab?