[00:56] <guiverc> Bashing-om, is it easy to add another askubu top 5 question; one is about neon which was closed as off-topic & is on the delete queue currently
[00:59] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Well - finding an alternate for an AskUbuntu item should not be too great of a step - lemme see what I can learn.
[01:04] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Got one :) Will edit when you are ready for me to open.
[01:04] <guiverc> you can open.. i'm just reading (and currently writing a reply to something non-news related.. going to askubu had me go off on a tangent..))
[01:05] <Bashing-om> dewwing
[01:08] <guiverc> Bashing-om, docu office hours summary... s/Office Hours; which the latest was/Office Hours; where the latest was/  ??  maybe; which reads 'badly' to me now
[01:09] <guiverc> maybe 'with' is better than 'which' or 'where'
[01:09] <guiverc> s/FliSoL Barranquilla 2024 ; the/FliSoL Barranquilla 2024; the/  (i suggest removing a space before ';'
[01:09] <Bashing-om> looking
[01:11] <guiverc> would 'dropped; “there' on jbicha/games article be better if s/;/:/ ??
[01:13] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Office hours: dropping which altogether, the thought/sentence reads just fine - OK ?
[01:14] <guiverc> sorry.. i was suggesting changing 'which' to 'where' & then changed my mind to 'with'
[01:20] <Bashing-om> guiverc: "with" works well. done/
[01:21] <guiverc> first in the press.. s/as what we’re familiar with/we’re familiar with/  maybe (drop 'as what' as unnecessary??)
[01:23] <guiverc> ^ are just suggestions; what I see (as per usual)
[01:23] <Bashing-om> guiverc: "feels like the same" OS that we're familiar with, -- instead.
[01:24] <guiverc> yeah, less tongue-twister I guess..
[01:25] <Bashing-om> saved and out.
[01:32] <guiverc> you just copy & paste the updates from a script don't you Bashing-om ...   the first on jammy/22.04 is 28751, then it returns to 27487, 28499 & numbers consistent with end of last weeks issue.. (can't see an issue.. just spend time when its out-of-sync like this & seen)
[01:33] <guiverc> Bashing-om, a blank line doesn't exist between last mantic upgrade & the 'End of Life: July 2024' as is the norm..
[01:34] <guiverc> looks good, I've finished & ^ was all I saw/noted.
[01:37] -ubottu:#ubuntu-news- ::planet:: Alan Pope: Mini EV: Two Years On @ https://popey.com/blog/2024/03/mini-electric-two-years-on/
[01:41] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Yeah release updates are from a script - this issue had to manually add "March".
[01:43] <guiverc> thanks Bashing-om :)
[01:43] <Bashing-om> saved and out
[01:46] <guiverc> Bashing-om, you didn't think ":" was useful; would an "as" work, given 'Games are dropped "there is wider support' reads a little awkwardly to me
[01:50] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Looking - musta dropped that one amongst the other editing lists.
[01:50] <guiverc> my wording ^^ ain't the easiest to comprehend sorry.
[01:51] <Bashing-om> yup addding 'as' makes readable.
[01:55] <guiverc> thanks.
[02:08] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Your sharp eyes and agile mind :P
[21:15] <Bashing-om> UWN: Pulling WIP/Comments/WIKI - no further edits are known - will start the push soonest.
[21:16] <guiverc> :)
[21:43] <Bashing-om> UWN: M/L is away - doing the Forums posting next.
[21:44]  * guiverc clearing out spam on fridge.. comparitively lots today
[21:46] <guiverc> https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2024/03/04/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-829/
[21:53] <guiverc> tweeted 829, posted telegram, (mewe)
[21:54]  * guiverc can't access fb currently; will post later (like last week)
[22:09] <Bashing-om> UWN: Forums post completed - finally; Making up a Mastodon blog next.
[22:36] <Bashing-om> UWN: Mastodon blogged - settin up 830 next - we do March already.
[22:47] -ubottu:#ubuntu-news- ::omg!ubuntu:: Classic Google Chrome Theme for Mozilla Firefox ESR @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/03/silverfox-classic-google-chrome-firefox-theme
[22:48] <Bashing-om> UWN: 830 off and running :D


[04:24] <Unit193> https://github.com/matiasdelellis/xings-user-accounts I found a thing.
[06:04] <Baytuch> Good morning
[06:15] <Baytuch> https://github.com/baytuch/acme-client/commit/2aef44789b3fd7bf79770b06bd6798f840880a86
[09:54] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 22.04 - amd64 - amd64 built.
[10:24] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 22.04 - amd64 - amd64 built.
[11:39] <Baytuch> Unit193, can i ask you?
[12:01] <Unit193> Baytuch: Ask me what?
[12:09] <Baytuch> I debugged the build on github for a long time for the target of Ubuntu 20.04
[12:10] <Baytuch> and the dpkg-buildpackage app was giving me back code 1
[12:10] <Baytuch> but the package was assembled fine
[12:10] <Baytuch> I am running a build for the root user to avoid this error now
[12:10] <Baytuch> I have no technical ability to check it on a real machine, only a virtual machine on a github
[12:10] <Baytuch> https://github.com/baytuch/acme-client/blob/master/.github/workflows/check.yml#L24-L25
[13:41] <Baytuch> i'm try fix it like this:
[13:41] <Baytuch> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b --no-sign || true
[13:42] <Baytuch> but this is incorrect, because it is impossible to fix errors
[14:00] <Baytuch> Unit193, i'm still learning your edits. Thank you very much.
[16:00] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin 2.6.2 released @ http://www.mail-archive.com/xfce-announce@xfce.org/msg00633.html


 One day I found it a really lightweight distro that saved my time during installation, but as releases come, the things stopping to work one by one.  Good luck !
[11:54] <knome> how nice. indeed, i'm just about to go get another pile of mud for dinner.
[12:03] <diogenes_> knome, with apples or mushrooms?
[12:04] <knome> dirt.
[12:04] <diogenes_> :) so no dessert
[12:07] <knome> some dog excrement maybe if we're lucky
[12:08] <diogenes_> lol ok ok i hope i forget about this conversation before i have my dinner
[12:08] <knome> good luck and sorry :)
[13:17] <rebab> I have hidden Artha (dictionary) by mistake. Now I can't see the app on the deskbar. How can I fix it?


[18:56] <walrider> pavlushka: bhai asen  ??
[18:57] <pavlushka> hey, kemon asen walrider :)
[18:57] <pavlushka> walrider: u-la-la ke rest e rakhsi ;)
[18:57] <walrider> pavlushka: valo bhai apni  ? akta jinish jante chai bhai
[18:57] <pavlushka> walrider: sure , ask please
[18:59]  * pavlushka creating a math compilation of lubuntu
[18:59] <walrider> pavlushka:  ami debian install dibo then debian e xfce desktop environment use korbo the question is i found a lot of iso  bujhtesi na konta will be ok for me requesting assistance
[19:00] <pavlushka> walrider: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/
[19:00] <walrider> jassie  ?
[19:01] <pavlushka> debian jessie which comprised of 3 DVDs
[19:01] <walrider> damn
[19:01] <walrider> 3 dvd
[19:02] <pavlushka> walrider: seems like you didn't have to install anything but the xfce dm, you can try mate or lxde dm also on top of that or you can have more than one and can choose which dm to load when you login :)
[19:03] <pavlushka> *do not have to install
[19:03] <walrider> ha i tried that
[19:04] <pavlushka> walrider: so what you decided?
[19:04] <walrider> mirror.dhakacom.com site e iso ase aktu ber kore den i kindle
[19:05] <walrider> i dnt wanna waste time on downloading from internet at low speed instead downloading from dhakacom
[19:07] <pavlushka> walrider: http://mirror.amberit.com.bd/debian-cd/8.7.1/amd64/iso-dvd/
[19:07] <walrider> bhai 32bit den :/ old lappe
[19:08] <pavlushka> walrider: have enough disk space?
[19:08] <walrider> 40 GB
[19:09] <pavlushka> walrider: http://mirror.amberit.com.bd/debian-cd/8.7.1/i386/iso-dvd/
[19:09] <walrider> 3 ta iso ase kamne ki
[19:10] <pavlushka> walrider: 3 discs, 1st 2nd 3rd
[19:12] <walrider> bishal file sistem
[19:13] <pavlushka> walrider: wait a minute, let me try it on VM, about some minutes :)
[19:19] <pavlushka> walrider: unlike the live cd/dvd, the basic DVD just starts to install, it has no live env as it seems
[19:20] <walrider> hmm
[19:20] <pavlushka> like alternate Ubuntu ISOs
[19:22] <pavlushka> walrider: emni emni 3 ta disc, gushti shuddo install hochche
[19:22] <walrider> :#
[19:23] <pavlushka> nano hano tano
[19:27] <pavlushka> 32%
[19:30] <walrider> xubuntu trusti amd64 download disi
[19:40] <pavlushka> walrider: ok, good luck on that, someday (y)


[12:18] <Viper550> Guess what, you've got some upstaging to do artwork wise now...
[12:19] <Viper550> http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/
[12:22] <kwwii_> dude, I do not mean to be rude, but what is the point?
[12:22] <Viper550> FC6's artwork is just plain beautiful
[12:22] <kwwii_> I mean, I am a kubunu person, so I really don't care either way
[12:23] <kwwii_> but  what is the point of coming here to say that?
[12:23] <Viper550> (well, Fedora uses most of the same artwork cross-desktop anyway) My point, here's some inspiration so we can do even better for Edgy
[12:23] <kwwii_> you say it is your prefered distro, so use it
[12:24] <Viper550> I know, I do use it, but I used to use Ubuntu and when I joined the team I used Ubuntu
[12:24] <Viper550> I was showing you what Fedora was up to, we did bring up the Echo icons on the list before, so it's not like we haven't mentioned Fedora before
[12:25] <Viper550> But then, we all also kinda disliked the bubbles look too.
[02:35] <Seveas> troy_s, I almost have the needed parts of usplash_gtk working to get a working preview application
[02:36] <Seveas> so we have a graphical way of switching btween usplashes
[06:35] <BHSPitLappy> sweeetness
[09:41] <mhb> good morning
[09:54] <BHSPitLappy> mornin
[09:54] <BHSPitLappy> good 3am
[09:55] <mhb> 1Oam here
[09:55] <mhb> :o)
[12:06] <Schalken> :-X
[05:01] <Kamion> kwwii: in case you didn't notice, usplash 0.4-23 (uploaded yesterday) fixes most problems on powerpc; usplash 0.4-24 (which I'm about to upload) fixes broken progress bar display on powerpc
[05:03] <kwwii> Kamion: for some reason usplash fails on my machine because it says it cannot find the screen size
[05:03] <Kamion> kwwii: yes, that's what should be fixed in -23
[05:03] <kwwii> hehe, cool!
[05:03] <Kamion> if you're using -23, we can talk further :)
[05:04] <kwwii> well, I am using it (I just tested it about three hours ago)
[05:04] <Kamion> oh, and it still says it can't find the screen size?
[05:04] <kwwii> yepp, it did it at 1024x768 on dapper
[05:04] <kwwii> the dekstop, I mean, although it can do more
[05:05] <kwwii> so I think it is just a funky computer (it is an eMac)
[05:05] <Kamion> that shouldn't be a problem
[05:06] <Kamion> what's the exact error message?
[05:06] <kwwii> cannot find screen size (or there abouts)
[05:07] <Kamion> I need the exact message so I can grep for it, if you can
[05:07] <kwwii> well, I will reboot and tell you, one second :-)
[05:07] <Kamion> thanks
[05:07] <kwwii> hey, thanks go to you :-)
[05:07] <kwwii> brb
[05:12] <kwwii_> bogl_init failed: setting Screen Size: invalid Argument
[05:12] <kwwii_> Screen init failed
[05:12] <kwwii_> Kamion: that is what I get
[05:13] <Kamion> OK
[05:13] <Kamion> kwwii_: what's in /etc/usplash.conf?
[05:14] <kwwii_> xres=640
[05:14] <kwwii_> yres=480
[05:16] <Kamion> kwwii_: could you put the output of 'lspci' somewhere so that I know which kernel framebuffer driver I should be looking at?
[05:18] <kwwii_> yepp, one second
[05:21] <kwwii_> Kamion: http://paste.uni.cc/10026
[05:25] <PingunZ> What is fecal matter ?
[05:26] <PingunZ> its a title of a mail but I don't understand it ?
[05:26] <PingunZ> An ubuntu-art mail btw :)
[05:28] <Kamion> kwwii_: OK, it's a Radeon, and there aren't that many places where radeon's fb_check_var can fail
[05:28] <Kamion> I suspect I'm just failing to initialise something or other
[05:29] <kwwii_> well, whenever you need any info or testing, just ask. I'd be happy to help if it gets this thing running :-)
[05:31] <Kamion> kwwii_: will do ...
[05:37] <kwwii_> [17:33]  <Tonio_> kwwii_: sudo usplash works here, but fails at boot. Probably due to the resolution detection I assume
[05:38] <kwwii_> I am not alone
[05:38] <Kamion> it is not necessarily the same problem
[05:39] <Kamion> kwwii_: so does 'sudo usplash -c -x 640 -y 480' work for you from a virtual console? (if it does work, wait 15 seconds or so for it to go away)
[05:40] <kwwii_> Kamion: nope, it just says "Screen Init Failed"
[05:41] <Kamion> kwwii_: also, if you could put /var/log/Xorg.0.log somewhere, that would be useful
[05:41] <Kamion> ok, so your problem is not the same as Tonio's
[05:41] <Kamion> sorry BTW, if you'd rather this be somewhere other than #ubuntu-artwork, no problem, we can take it to #ubuntu-devel or /query
[06:05] <kwwii_> sorry, I was making schnitzel's for dinner
[06:06] <PingunZ> kwwii_, german ?
[06:08] <kwwii_> PingunZ: no, but i play one on tv
[06:09] <kwwii_> Kamion: http://bootsplash.org/Xorg.0.log
[06:28] <Kamion> kwwii_: you'll need to fix usplash.conf, since you have no 640x480 theme in kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[06:28] <Kamion> xres=1024 and yres=768 should do, and you might find that that will work ...
[06:28] <Kamion> try 'sudo usplash -c -x 1024 -y 768' from a console to test
[06:29] <kwwii_> Kamion: rocking! it works
[06:30] <Nafallo> just a tip: the preview text on the wallpaper is behind the lower panel :-P
[06:30] <Kamion> kwwii_: woo. still need to fix the underlying bug but at least that's you sorted
[06:31] <kwwii_> hehe :-) thanks, I appreciate it
[06:31] <Kamion> I'm going to tweak usplash to exit a bit more clearly if there's no theme matching the specified resolution
[06:31] <kwwii_> it is really helpfull to be able to test it
[06:32] <Kamion> yeah, that's why it got paid developer time :)
[06:46] <kwwii_> :-)
[06:50] <kwwii_> time for dinner
[06:50] <kwwii_> bbl
[07:04] <PingunZ> Err, I found out how to run gimp in one window ( might interest you ) ..
[07:04] <PingunZ> Xnest :1 -ac -name GIMP -geometry 1024x690 & metacity --display :1 & gimp --display :1
[08:38] <PingunZ> Oh noez, Seveas :)
[08:39] <Seveas> PingunZ, stfu :
[08:40] <PingunZ> rofl
[11:05] <Viper550> kwwii: Just as a re-bringup, what was your opinion about the glossy panel bg I made?
[11:06] <kwwii> Viper550: I like it
[11:06] <kwwii> Viper550: the problem is that the widgets look different
[11:06] <Viper550> Widgets? what widgets?
[11:06] <kwwii> Viper550: if we used a different widget style it would fit
[11:06] <Viper550> The widgets in the style? Yeah...we should try something more glossy
[11:07] <Viper550> There are 2 great gloss themes: QtCurve and Polyester
[11:08] <kwwii> ti would probably fit to QtCurve
[11:09] <Viper550> Firstly, QtCurve has tons of options, and we can easily set up a preset for our look. QtCurve can also apply its current settings to GTK apps as well as KDE apps
[11:09] <kwwii> so we could get ubuntu to change too?
[11:09] <kwwii> I seriously doubt it
[11:10] <Viper550> No, this means that on Kubuntu, Firefox and other GTK apps would look exactly like KDE
[11:10] <Viper550> This has been a complaint by some users that prefer Firefox over Konqueror, they boot it up and see that it has an ugly appearance
[11:12] <Viper550> We would still only ship it with Kubuntu, but with this, KDE and GTK applications can finally have consistancy!
[11:12] <kwwii> that is actually a very good point
[11:12] <Viper550> It also looks nice too!
[11:12] <kwwii> you mean that it works well with the Qt gtk engine and also has a firefox theme, I guess
[11:12] <Viper550> No, how it works is that there are 2 parts: the KDE style and the GTK engine
[11:13] <Viper550> The QtCurve GTK theme reads the color and style information from the QtCurve configuration on KDE
[11:15] <Viper550> So, they are still 2 different things, but they work together to apply a consistent look. It even applies the proper KDE icons where needed!
[11:16] <Viper550> I'm going to bring this up globally in kubuntu-devel as well too, so help us out!
[11:17] <kwwii> please do
[11:17] <kwwii> not sure if the infrastructure is there to support that
[11:42] <bersace> troy_s: hi brother !


 Fwd from Tech News: Canonical shares analytics from Ubuntu Linux desktop user data collection  https://betanews.com/2018/06/23/analytics-ubuntu-linux-user-data/  June 23, 2018 at 06:24PM
 @azrulamir, 👍🏻


[00:25] <josharenson> re: glmark2, currently the test is failing on jenkins as the environment setup does not start a mir server. Is there a reliable way to kick off a server automatically? I would prefer not to use popen if possible
[01:16] <racarr__> josharenson: You can link against libmirserver and call mir::run_mir with an instance of DefaultServerConfiguration I suppose
[01:16] <racarr__> see examples/basic_server.cpp
[01:17] <racarr__> um
[01:17] <racarr__> running mir_demo_server_basic or mir_demo_server_shell may be better though...
[01:24] <bschaefer> racarr__, is there much of a difference between the two? I've always just used the shell
[01:26]  * bschaefer just sees config changes
[01:40] <racarr__> bschaefer: demo server shell has some keybindings some window shadows a background
[01:40] <racarr__> etc
[01:40] <bschaefer> oo i see, thats where all thats coming from
[01:40] <bschaefer> cool
[09:00] <slvn_> Hello
[09:00] <slvn_> SDL has support for MIR. Any Idea how I could get the SDL crossed compiled for UbuntuPhone ?
[09:13] <alan_g> slvn_: I've not looked at SDL but would you be able to do something similar to the Mir cross-compile-chroot.sh script?
[09:41] <tvoss> slvn_, you should ping bschaefer later on, he wrote the SDL mir backend
[10:07] <slvn_> this is the cross-compile-chroot.sh : https://github.com/eMir-server/eMir/blob/master/cross-compile-chroot.sh  right ?
[10:08] <slvn_> I will give a try
[10:08] <slvn_> and try to contact also bschaefer
[10:08] <slvn_> thanks!
[10:15] <alan_g> slvn_: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mir-team/mir/utopic/view/head:/cross-compile-chroot.sh
[11:00] <slvn_> alan_g|errands, thanks for the link!
[23:02] <kdub> yay overlay client on the screen
[23:07] <kdub> some kinks to work out though
[23:22] <josharenson> racarr__ My test case starts a mir server internally a la the examples... However, since the server takes a non trivial amount of time to come up, is there a callback that is fired when initialization of the server is complete?


[17:23] <penguin42> Can someone point me at something that documents what happens when Unity is running as opposed to classic?


[03:24] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> have a nice weekend mates
[06:29] <ducasse> good morning
[07:12] <SlidingHorn> good...lord.
[08:00] <SlidingHorn> ugh, another one of the spammy accounts
[08:00] <SlidingHorn> is it just me, or is that issue getting worse lately?
[08:02] <ducasse> they've sure been doing it a lot lately
[10:03] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[10:50] <pauljw> hi everyone
[12:46] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:08] <oerheks> hi beautifull
[14:27] <BluesKaj> hey oerheks....beautiful?
[14:33] <oerheks> oke oke ... gorgeous
[14:42] <ducasse> hi BluesKaj - having a nice weekend?
[14:43] <ducasse> oerheks: you charmer!
[14:44] <BluesKaj> oerheks, oh i get it now, you were referring to my 2 daughters who are visiting this weekend :-)
[14:45] <BluesKaj> hey ducasse yes, a very nice weekend, how about you?
[14:47] <ducasse> a very good one, thanks. had family here from thursday to yesterday, today just relaxing. starting dinner soon.
[17:38] <leftyfb> obvious troll is obvious
[17:38] <leftyfb> anyone else care to "help" them
[17:38] <leftyfb> ?
[17:39] <krytarik> Noope!
[18:09] <tomreyn> kostkon: i guess this factoid should be reworked (reisub), since there is /etc/sysctl.d/10-magic-sysrq.conf
[18:09] <tomreyn> ...effectively limiting this to SUB
[18:10] <daftykins> xD
[18:10] <daftykins> is that happening on all distros or another juicy 'buntu quirk?
[18:11] <tomreyn> i think this was introduced after media outcry about the fact that you could kill the screensaver that way
[18:11] <tomreyn> i'm not sure what other distros do
[18:11] <tomreyn> SUB is usually sufficient, though
[18:12] <tomreyn> (kill the screensaver and gain physical, unauthenticated access to the graphical desktop, that is)
[18:13] <kostkon> tomreyn, oh yeah they've disabled part of it
[18:14] <daftykins> never even tried it if i'm honest, all my Loonix are virtualised so it doesn't tend to be relevant
[18:19] <tomreyn> you can still write it to /proc/sysrq-trigger just for the fun of it
[20:41] <leftyfb> SlidingHorn: good luck with that. I just had a long conversation in #ubuntu-ops. They made it pretty clear they don't understand what trolling is. They'll try to reason with him (maybe) and then ..... poof ... nothing
[20:44]  * leftyfb is shocked
[21:08] <daftykins> i wish i was, been like that for over 10 years
[21:16] <tomreyn> I believe you may have been trolled by #ubuntu-ops
[21:17] <tomreyn> (not really, but it would be kind of funny if that was their response to it)
[22:10] <JanC> actually, some sysrq commands can be useful in virtualised systems too...
[22:11] <daftykins> can't say i'm too familiar with them but if i've got a problem with a VM, i've got bigger problems i'm sure :D
[22:11] <daftykins> and i'm more likely to recreate it
[22:12] <JanC> some can be used for debugging purposes & such
[22:13] <JanC> and if e.g. your VM keeps hanging, you might want to find out why instead of keeping to restart it  :)
[22:15] <JanC> all available sysrq commands should be documented in /usr/share/doc/linux-doc/admin-guide/sysrq.rst.gz
[22:16] <JanC> (it also explains how you can change the sysrq permissions with sysfs/sysctl)
[22:25] <daftykins> well i wouldn't be that dumb :> never happened though
[23:22] <tomreyn> 131 ubuntu archive mirrors currently do https
[23:22] <tomreyn> a lot more than i expected
[23:23] <tomreyn> 131 of 450 total
[23:31] <daftykins> :)
[23:32] <daftykins> had those people moaning about them not being, again?
[23:57] <tomreyn> someone stated that that were none (or they could not find any, apparently not tried too hard), so i checked whether that's correct.
[23:58] <tomreyn> i had assumed there would be a small number, like 5 or 10
[23:58] <daftykins> :)