[00:00] <Oblivion1500> hello, i was wondering how you add permissions to a user to edit a directory on the command line say the user is username@localhost and the dir is /example
[00:01] <Guest69309> Ok, if you want to be pedantic, yes applications do exist that won't work.  ARM?  But I doubt anyone seriously cares whether your favorite text editor for your days on VAX machines runs on the latest Ubuntu
[00:01] <Dmnchild> Anyone know why if I changed the default port for SSH, that I can not access via the new port or old port? (I know i shouldn't be able to on old port) I get a could not resolve hostname <my ip>:<port>
[00:01] <Dmnchild> nodename nor servname provided, or not known
[00:01] <Guest69309> What 16-bit applications are you referring to that you would miss so badly?
[00:01] <sonOfRa> Dmnchild, use ssh -p <port> hostname
[00:01] <sonOfRa> don't specify the port with the hostname
[00:03] <Dmnchild> Ah snaps. Much appreciated.
[00:06] <relisher> Any info on wether Ubuntu Phone will be able to install .deb files
[00:06] <Atlantic777> Oblivion1500: it's called access control list (ACL) in linux. Every file has permissions for owner, group and everyone. So you have to ensure that user is in the group to which the file belongs, and that the group has permissions to read/write/execute the file.
[00:06] <Atlantic777> Oblivion1500: so, chown user:group /path/to/file sets owner user and group. chmod xxx /path/to/file sets permissions. You can add a user to a group with gpasswd -a user
[00:06] <Atlantic777> those xxx are 3 numbers, each can have values 0-7, 4 - read, 2 - write, 1 - execute
[00:06] <Atlantic777> and they add, so 750 means that owner can read, write and execute, group to which the file belongs can read and execute that file and everyone other can do nothing with it.
[00:06] <qubodup-ubunutu> hi. i'm trying to find out what the currently loaded gfx driver is. I'm unable to determine whether it's the radeon/ati one or a backup one by looking at xorg logs:  http://ompldr.org/vaGt3NA/Xorg.0.log
[00:06] <Atlantic777> qubodup-ubunutu: glxinfo | grep -i render
[00:07] <Atlantic777> glxinfo is from mesa utils package, though...
[00:08] <Oblivion1500> Atlantic777: can i just make up a group and would user be username or username@example and if i do the first option can i omit the xxx?
[00:08] <jrib> Oblivion1500: do keep in mind though that changing permissions/ownership to the wrong file can cause issues with your system
[00:08] <Atlantic777> Oblivion1500: usernames and groups have nothing to do with hostnames (the hostname is thing after @)
[00:08] <qubodup-ubunutu> direct rendering: Yes \ OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R100 (RV200 5157) x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE TCL DRI2 - not sure what that means but I would guess it says "the open source radeon/ati driver is running"
[00:12] <Oblivion1500> so i cant just do chown user:group /path/to/file, i have to do that other one aswell?
[00:13] <Oblivion1500> chown -R user:group /path/to/file
[00:13] <Nvveen> Could someone please help me with this? Unity won't show any panels even though hw acceleration is working. .xsession-errors tells me compiz can't load unityshell. Anyone?
[00:13] <Atlantic777> Oblivion1500: I doon't understand. chown is for ownership, chmod is for permissions.
[00:14] <Oblivion1500> ok so i only have to use chown? i just need one user to access it
[00:14] <Nvveen> If noone can help me, can someone at least point me in the direction of an irc-channel with more experienced users?
[00:14] <jrib> Oblivion1500: what file is this?
[00:15] <Oblivion1500> its a /example.com and i just need my mysql admin to edit it
[00:15] <jrib> !permissions | Oblivion1500
[00:15] <Atlantic777> Oblivion1500: then make sure that the user is owner, and that the last number in chmod xxx is 0.
[00:16] <jrib> Oblivion1500: Atlantic777 pretty much explained it already but there's some documentation on the wiki might want to read
[00:17] <Oblivion1500> ohhh, ok sorry just making myself look stupid, so root will still have access to this file though right?
[00:17] <Atlantic777> root has access to everything
[00:18] <Atlantic777> it's... root. :D
[00:18] <Oblivion1500> good good
[00:18] <Oblivion1500> thanks for you help!!!
[00:19] <kmentat> Hey, quick question. How do I figure out what's thrashing my disk drives?
[00:19] <jrib> kmentat: iotop
[00:19] <kmentat> I'm using LVM, but nothing is reading or writing to anything, yet there's disk access while the system idles.
[00:20] <Bray90820_> Anyone wanna help me get my touch screen working on my netbook
[00:20] <Bray90820_> it use to work on any version before 10.04.2 if i added usbhid.quirks=0x00eef:0x725e:0x40
[00:21] <Bray90820_> to my grub menu
[00:21] <Bray90820_> but now if i do that it dies after i close teh cover
[00:22] <kmentat> "kworker
[00:22] <kmentat> "lwprler
[00:22] <kmentat> "kworker"?
[00:22] <Bray90820_> sorry i ment 12.04.2 not 10.04.2
[00:22] <yourimym1> hey tehre
[00:22] <yourimym1> there*
[00:23] <g090> Can I use a 32-bit virtual machine on a 64-bit Ubuntu? Or does it also have to be 64-bit?
[00:23] <Blacklite_> I'm here. willing to answer any questions.
[00:23] <Blacklite_> yes, you can use 32 bit.
[00:23] <Blacklite_> next.
[00:23] <g090> Great, thanks!
[00:24] <HunterT> Hello, could someone please tell me why I am having so many problems with installing the guest addition video driver on Ubuntu 12.04 in the latest version of virtual box
[00:24] <HunterT> any links would be appreciated.
[00:24] <yourimym1> is there way to backup installed program , and get them back after fresh install , thing like aptoncd but get the apps
[00:24] <Bray90820_> Blacklite did you get the messages about my touch screen problem
[00:24] <Blacklite_> no.
[00:24] <Jesus> 5
[00:24] <Blacklite_> please elaborate
[00:25] <Bray90820_> it use to work on any version before 12.04.2 if i added usbhid.quirks=0x00eef:0x725e:0x40 to grub
[00:25] <Bray90820_> but now if i do that the touch screen dies after i close the cover
[00:25] <yourimym1> Blacklite_:  is there way to backup installed program , and get them back after fresh install , thing like aptoncd but get the apps
[00:26] <HunterT> Bray what are you saying?
[00:26] <kmentat> OK, it looks like kworker is throwing a lot of IO processes and chewing up a lot of CPU
[00:26] <HunterT> so I should install a diff version
[00:26] <Blacklite_> kmentat: killall kworker
[00:27] <kmentat> But kworker is a placeholder for kernel tasks.
[00:27] <kmentat> That doesn't sound… good
[00:27] <Blacklite_> oh. well fuck.
[00:27] <Blacklite_> umm... recompile kernel?
[00:27] <kmentat> At least it isn't LVM's mirroring
[00:28] <kmentat> Well, you can't recompile what you haven't compiled in the first place, but I can always build my own anyway!
[00:28] <Feelquilty>  / join #backtrack-fr
[00:28] <kmentat> T'isn't my first barbecue.
[00:28] <nibbler> yourimym1: you can get a list of installed packages via dpkg.... and use this later as input for apg-get install - can't remember the parameter for the first step right now
[00:28] <MoPac> So, what is up with apportcheckresume in 12.10?  Every time I suspend, the computer restarts on resume and throws a KernelOops.  I've seen other people having the same issue: is suspend just broken in 12.10, or are there particular configurations that are working?
[00:29] <Bray90820_> i have a touch screen netbook the dell insperon duo running 12.04.2 and by default the touch screen doesn't work  but if i add usbhid.quirks=0x00eef:0x725e:0x40 as a boot flag then it works until i close the cover and reopen it
[00:29] <nibbler> MoPac: its working fine for me on 2 machines.
[00:29] <Bray90820_> then i get no input from the screen
[00:29] <MoPac> nibbler: Do you use LUKS?
[00:29] <Blacklite_> MoPac: alot of stuff is broken in 12.10 roll back to 12.04
[00:29] <yourimym1> nibbler: so what to google to get the steps ?
[00:29] <nibbler> MoPac: yes
[00:29] <Bray90820_> but it worked fine on 12.04.0 and earlier
[00:30] <nibbler> yourimym1: $ dpkg --get-selections
[00:30] <Bray90820_> yourimym1 that's for backing up your programs http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[00:30] <MoPac> Blacklite_: Not worth rolling back just for this.  I'd rather fix it
[00:30] <Blacklite_> Bray90820_: did you look for your touchscreen's kernel drivers?
[00:30] <Bray90820_> what do you mean
[00:31] <Bray90820_> Blacklite_ what do you mean
[00:31] <Blacklite_> look for proprietary drivers for your touchscreen.
[00:31] <MoPac> Are there any people in here who are among those who have/had suspend problems in 12.10?
[00:32] <Blacklite_> Bray90820_: look for proprietary drivers for your touchscreen.
[00:32] <Bray90820_> Blacklite_ under additional drivers?
[00:32] <nibbler> Bray90820_: what happens if you close/reopen the lid?
[00:32] <Blacklite_> yes.
[00:33] <linuxuz3r_> MoPac i have suspend problems with 12.04
[00:33] <Blacklite_> yes under additional drivers.
[00:33] <Bray90820_> the touch screen fails to work
[00:33] <Bray90820_> Blacklite_ there are none
[00:33] <nibbler> Bray90820_: did you try to reload the module? like rmmod foo, modprobe foo
[00:33] <MoPac> linuxuz3r_: Do you get a reboot and a KernelOops message when you try to resume?
[00:33] <Bray90820_> nibbler what do you mean
[00:34] <Blacklite_> Bray90820_: look for generic touchscreen drivers.
[00:34] <linuxuz3r_> i don't get anything when i try to wake
[00:34] <Bray90820_> i have it working partly after i add usbhid.quirks=0x00eef:0x725e:0x40" as a boot flag
[00:34] <Blacklite_> linuxuz3r_: did you try pressing the power button?
[00:34] <nibbler> Bray90820_: it certainly is some sort of driver. drivers in linux are usually kernel modules. the list of loaded modules can be seen by "lsmod" - if you unload a module "rmmod" and load it again "modprobe" you reinitialise the driver
[00:34] <cobra-the-joker> Hey guys ... i am trying to install ubuntu from a USB ... but when i choose language + continue on the third party page ... it hangs !
[00:34] <Bray90820_> but after i close and open the lid it dies
[00:34] <linuxuz3r_> MoPac to wake up yes
[00:34] <[Mod]Jordan> I am in need of desperate help
[00:35] <MoPac> For me, the suspend-resume fails no matter what button I press to resume
[00:35] <nibbler> Bray90820_: but its not always working, as unloading of drivers that are in use is not possible e.g.
[00:35] <MoPac> It just goes to boot/BIOS
[00:35] <Blacklite_> cobra-the-joker: check your disc's integrity.
[00:35] <linuxuz3r_> oh
[00:35] <[Mod]Jordan> Someone?
[00:35] <Bray90820_> nibbler im sorry but i still don't understand
[00:35] <nibbler> [Mod]Jordan: you'd have to ask a specific question to give anyone the chance of helping
[00:36] <cobra-the-joker> Blacklite_, i checked it  ... it's correct
[00:36] <Blacklite_> yeah.
[00:36] <yourimym1> nibbler: what to do after dpkg --get-selections
[00:36] <yourimym1> as i want to back up all displayed from dpkg --get-selections
[00:36] <[Mod]Jordan> OK so I'm running open suse and want to switch to Ubuntu I have recovery partition and bios and don't want to lose them
[00:36] <Blacklite_> what's you'r problem, jordan?
[00:36] <Blacklite_> you're*
[00:36] <nibbler> yourimym1: dpkg --get-selections | awk '{print $1}' > $HOME/installed-packages.txt
[00:37] <nibbler> [Mod]Jordan: then... tell the installer not to touch them.
[00:37] <Blacklite_> cobra-the-joker: what are your processor and video card?
[00:37] <[Mod]Jordan> How?
[00:37] <[Mod]Jordan> I need instructions
[00:37] <cobra-the-joker> Blacklite_, it seems that i found a solution http://askubuntu.com/questions/204771/ubuntu-12-10-installation-hangs-at-preparing-to-install-ubuntu
[00:37] <nibbler> [Mod]Jordan: the installer is self explaining. don't tell it to use the partitions/whole disk, just do it manually.
[00:37] <kirk601> anyone have a recommendation on the safest/fastest vpn service that works with ubuntu?
[00:38] <nibbler> kirk601: tor. for sure the safest. talking about fast might make you want to sacrifice some security ;-)
[00:38] <yourimym1> nibbler: how to get them then in package ?
[00:39] <nibbler> yourimym1: cat $HOME/installed-packages.txt | xargs apt-get install - this will reinstall the packages, but it will redownload them etc.
[00:39] <Blacklite_> ubuntu makes me a sad penguin.
[00:39] <cobra-the-joker> Blacklite_, what you use then ?
[00:39] <kirk601> nibbler, i have tor installed but i've yet to try it out. does it cover the entire connection? or just a special browser or something
[00:40] <kirk601> nibbler, thx btw :)
[00:40] <Blacklite_> cobra-the-joker: slackware.
[00:40] <nibbler> kirk601: you can route everything via tor, but you need to take care
[00:40] <kirk601> nibbler, i was thinking about paying for one of the advertised ones
[00:40] <Blacklite_> don't.
[00:41] <kirk601> nibbler, well, on my phone it gave me the option to 'bootstrap' the entire connection or only provide saftey thru the included browser
[00:41] <yourimym1> nibbler: where the file saved cant find it
[00:41] <kirk601> nibbler, its the complexity of setting it up that i worry about, dont want to get anything wrong
[00:41] <nibbler> kirk601: check the tails live-cd.... maybe its the best option....
[00:42] <linuxuz3r_> what is a vpn?
[00:42] <[Mod]Jordan> Virtual private network
[00:42] <linuxuz3r_> virtual private network?
[00:42] <Blacklite_> virtual private network
[00:42] <linuxuz3r_> what does it do?
[00:42] <Blacklite_> anonymizer
[00:43] <[Mod]Jordan> Routes traffic from your  to another one
[00:43] <linuxuz3r_> routes traffic from server to client?
[00:43] <yourimym1> i want to use this but only for my system files (tar -cvpzf backup.tar.gz --exclude=/backup.tar.gz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/sys --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/media --exclude=/dev / )
[00:44] <yourimym1> what parameters to correct for selecting only system and installed ?
[00:45] <[Mod]Jordan> So which should I pick in the install if I want to keep recovery and bios partitions?
[00:46] <[Mod]Jordan> Hello?
[00:46] <yourimym1> so any help ?
[00:46] <[Mod]Jordan> I need help :)
[00:47] <yourimym1> i want to ((tar -cvpzf backup.tar.gz --exclude=/backup.tar.gz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/sys --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/media --exclude=/dev / ))
[00:47] <yourimym1> but only for system and installed application , so is the command right ?
[00:47] <[Mod]Jordan> Can anyone please help me! :)
[00:48] <linuxuz3r_> what hd partition do you have
[00:48] <linuxuz3r_> and where is your bios installed?
[00:48] <[Mod]Jordan> Toshiba
[00:48] <[Mod]Jordan> On a partition
[00:48] <[Mod]Jordan> With recovery
[00:49] <linuxuz3r_> brb got to go
[00:49] <[Mod]Jordan> Anyone else?
[00:49] <kirk601> another question. i'm running a ide hdd and want to move to a ssd sata drive. is there an easy way to copy my current operating system from the old ide to the new sata drive?
[00:49] <kirk601> i can't ghost it becauset the ssd is smaller than the old hdd
[00:50] <Pici> [Mod]Jordan: Why can't you just use the Ubuntu Cd to install? Have you tried that?
[00:50] <kirk601> because i have everything set up the way i like it i dont want to start over
[00:50] <kirk601> Pici
[00:50] <Pici> ?
[00:50] <kirk601> Pici: christ, nevermind. i thought that was for me :P
[00:50]  * kirk601 kicks self
[00:50] <[Mod]Jordan> Pici I am doing that but I don't want it to touch my recovery and bios partitions but wipe out open suse
[00:51] <Pici> [Mod]Jordan: During the install it will ask if you want to do advanced partitioning, make sure you choose the right partition to install on.
[00:52] <DannoFX> Hello
[00:54] <yourimym1> anyone me /?
[00:56] <COLORS> Hello. Does anyone need help>?
[00:56] <yourimym1> me :S
[00:56] <johndoe333> hi
[00:56] <COLORS> yourimym1: What's wrong?
[00:56] <johndoe333> i have a problem.
[00:57] <yourimym1> COLORS: i want to ((tar -cvpzf backup.tar.gz --exclude=/backup.tar.gz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/sys --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/media --exclude=/dev / )) but only for system and installed application , so is the command right ?
[00:57] <yourimym1> not the whole HD
[00:57] <johndoe333> when i go to update ubuntu it attempts to update and then says "not enough free space on disc/boot"
[00:57] <yourimym1> hard-disk i mean
[00:57] <johndoe333> am i able to load up gparted and just change the size of the boot directory?
[00:57] <COLORS> yourimym1: As far as I can see, yes.
[00:58] <johndoe333> or would that corrupt all my files. i use LVM encryption on my HD too.
[00:58] <Bray90820_> i'm trying to install etouch but it is asking me to select an interface RS232, USB, PS2
[00:58] <quant> I want to write a little bash program, that test, if a site on the web is available. However it should only return not available if 404 was returned
[00:58] <johndoe333> boot partition, rather
[00:58] <quant> I tried $q=$(wget --spider $url)
[00:58] <COLORS> johndoe333: Yes, you should be able to use GParted for that :P
[00:58] <quant> (echo $l) | g=(grep -q -e "404")
[00:58] <quant> if [ "$g" -eq 0 ]
[00:59] <yourimym1> COLORS: so that command for packing only file system parition  not the whole hard drive ?!
[00:59] <johndoe333> thanks for responding, COLORS. however, will changing the /boot partition with gparted screw up my data?
[00:59] <kirk601> COLORS: im buying a new hard drive that is smaller than the one i'm using. i want to duplicate my install of ubuntu onto the new drive including my home folder and settings. but not the hundreds of gigs of misc data on the drive. is there a way you would work on tackling that?
[00:59] <quant> however it doesn't work
[00:59] <Bray90820_> anyone know which interface to choose
[00:59] <johndoe333> my ubuntu has LVM encrypted partition, i dont want to bugger it up
[00:59] <COLORS> yourimym1: Yes that will only pack FS, wherever you point it to.
[01:00] <COLORS> johndoe333: It shouldn't, but always practice caution when resizing pertitiions.
[01:00] <johndoe333> i mean, if i increase the size of my "/boot" partition to accommodate this update, wont that mean i have to decrease the size of my other partitions?
[01:01] <johndoe333> and given that my partitions are LVM partitioned, wont that potentially cause some problems
[01:01] <johndoe333> i guess i'm just asking the same quesiton over and over, you're saying i should be able to do it but that i should be cautious and backup before i do. correct?
[01:01] <yourimym1> COLORS: so after i've did this *.tar file , and want to restore it again in freshly installed ubuntu it gets my sett and installed application back , so what is the simple steps to do this after installing ?
[01:01] <COLORS> kirk601: You should never directly copy a Ubuntu installation, you will need to reinstall on that HD and then copy your data over.
[01:02] <SusTaLy> Amq,
[01:02] <johndoe333> it annoys me that i have to do this, why do i need to change my boot partition for an update anyway, i haven't changed any settings or done anything out of the ordinary lately
[01:02] <Bray90820_> which interface controller would a netbook use
[01:02] <Bray90820_> RS232, USB, PS2
[01:02] <kirk601> COLORS: no you were supposed to say 'sure! just install x and y packages and you're off! ugh... thx tho, i understand what you mean nowthat i think about it
[01:02] <kirk601> COLORS: i hate computers sometimes
[01:02] <johndoe333> OK i guess thats the answer, thanks COLORS
[01:02] <kirk601> but i <3 u guys
[01:02] <kirk601> yes thanks COLORS!
[01:03] <Guest8276> can anyone please help me? ZNC says the changes have been done, but the config not written
[01:03] <COLORS> yourimym1: After you re-install, do tar -zxvf backup.tar.gz
[01:03] <Guest8276> please
[01:03] <COLORS> kirk601 No problem :P
[01:03] <yourimym1> COLORS: sudo before or something , cuz am nebiw
[01:04] <COLORS> yourimym: Yes, if you are doing system backups please use sudo.
[01:04] <COLORS> yourimym1: HOWEVER before you proceed with your manual method I reccommed taking a look at the many great Backup apps Ubuntu runs
[01:04] <yourimym1> COLORS: full command to restore( sudo tar -zxvf backup.tar.gz)
[01:06] <yourimym1> COLORS: is there a gui for packing all my installed program i need thing like aptoncd , but i can'y use it cuz i've used apt-get cleanall
[01:06] <kmentat> Bray90820_, a netbook likely would use USB since I highly doubt it has any serial ports or dedicated keyboards or mouse ports.
[01:06] <Ruben2> please help me
[01:06] <COLORS> !info deka-dup
[01:07] <COLORS> !info deja-dup
[01:07] <Ruben2> I cannot write my ZNC config file. Please help
[01:07] <Bray90820_> kmentat it's asking which teh screen is connected to i think
[01:07] <kmentat> Ruben2, what is your problem?
[01:07] <COLORS> yourimym: I reccommend Deja-Dup
[01:07] <Bray90820_> because it is asking that while i am installing etouch to get my touchscreen working
[01:07] <Ruben2> kmentat,
[01:08] <kmentat> Bray90820_, Oh, that'd be something different. Which interface are they asking about? Driving the display panel or the touch sensor?
[01:08] <Ruben2> I use Cygwin and ZNC. I try to add servers to it through web interface, but the config wont be saved.   Cut its head off, and from the would sprinkle the chicken blood all over your server while chanting.
[01:10] <kmentat> s/would/wound
[01:10] <COLORS> SusTaLy: Please keep appropriate here
[01:10] <SusTaLy> ok ok
[01:10] <yourimym1> COLORS: if i choosed from deja pup file system partion to backup
[01:10] <yourimym1> then install the OS again and use it to restore from file that i've created , that get my installed applications again
[01:11] <COLORS> yourimym1: Yes, that's right.
[01:11] <robertzaccour> how do I install the easypeasy desktop in Ubuntu?
[01:12] <Bray90820_> kmentat i don't even know what i am looking for when i type lspci
[01:12] <kirk601> how bout this does anyone know how to make irssi not show joins/quits/kicks/etc?
[01:12] <kmentat> Bray90820_, drop the output into a pastebin, it might be somewhat obvious.
[01:12] <Bray90820_> kmentat i'll just pastebin the output
[01:12] <Bray90820_> ya lol
[01:13] <kmentat> Bray90820_, I'd also google for your model of machine with the words "touch" and "interface" or "chipset"
[01:13] <Bray90820_> kmentat i tried that
[01:13] <Bray90820_> nothing much
[01:13] <kmentat> Bray90820_, what IS this machine?
[01:13] <Bray90820_> dell insperon duo
[01:14] <COLORS> Hello. Does anyone need help>?
[01:15] <Bray90820_> kmentat http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Ma7iyhJy
[01:15] <kmentat> Bray90820_, does this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1654499
[01:15] <Bray90820_> kmentat it does not
[01:15] <Bray90820_> because everything was working fine before 12.04.2
[01:15] <yourimym1> COLORS: thx alot , i wonder does it will need permession while restoring file system
[01:15] <kmentat> Bray90820_, try lsusb
[01:16] <Blacklite_> try cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:16] <robertzaccour> how do I install the easypeasy desktop in Ubuntu?
[01:16] <COLORS> yourimym1: Yes, when it restore it will prompt you for a password.
[01:17] <yourimym1> COLORS: merci merci merci :)
[01:18] <kmentat> robertzaccour, that looks like Unity, right? Just install Unity.
[01:18] <robertzaccour> kmentat: its not unity
[01:18] <COLORS> yourimym1: No problem! :P
[01:18] <COLORS> Ahh I have to go, bye all
[01:19] <Bray90820_> kmentat http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Vc5k5sQs
[01:20] <kmentat> robertzaccour, It certainly looks like Unity in the screenshots on their website. But unless you can figure out what window manager they're using, I doubt you'll make any progress.
[01:21] <kmentat> Bray90820_, there it is! Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0eef:725e D-WAV Scientific Co., Ltd
[01:21] <kmentat> Bray90820_, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1048242
[01:22] <mib_mib> hi guys, i put some 'export SOMEVAR=/home/me/somedir' in my ~/.profile but when i open a new terminal window and do echo $SOMEVAR its not taking properly, what could be wrong?
[01:23] <jamesgcd> mib_mib - it sounds simple, but have you logged in and out again yet? That file to my knowledge is only read once per session
[01:23] <mib_mib> jamesgcd: i haven't yet - i thought the .profile was reloaded with every new terminal
[01:24] <mib_mib> jamesgcd: will do
[01:24] <jamesgcd> mib_mib tell us how it goes afterwards then ;)
[01:24] <kmentat> It's the -j(number) flag I should use in make to run on multiple processing cores, right?
[01:24] <kmentat> Just wanted to double-check that
[01:26] <bonhoeffer> anyone know how to mount my hfs + usb drive to my ubuntu machine
[01:26] <Bray90820_> kmentat so your saying it's usb?
[01:26] <bonhoeffer> with read/write
[01:27] <escott> bonhoeffer, disable journaling
[01:27] <Ziber> For a cronjob, "0 0 * * 0 /path/to/command" would run weekly, right?
[01:30] <bonhoeffer> escott, thanks .. . disk manager the best way to do that?
[01:30] <bonhoeffer> escott, what is journaling anyway?
[01:30] <escott> bonhoeffer, something you probably shouldnt turn off
[01:31] <escott> bonhoeffer, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journaling_file_system
[01:31] <OerHeks> Ziber, yes, on Sunday > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[01:32] <bonhoeffer> escott, thanks
[01:32] <PadNet_201> how do I run a command when terminal loads?
[01:32] <escott> PadNet_201, add it to ~/.bashrc
[01:34] <PadNet_201> escott where at the end?
[01:34] <pxc> On other distros, Pulseaudio's maximum volume is determined by the volume of whichever application is currently loudest. Here on Ubuntu, it seems to be set independently. How can I revert to the default behavior?
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[01:38] <escott> PadNet_201, sure wherever you would like
[01:38] <pxc> nvm. found it by searching for people looking to make the opposite change due to an old weirdness with VLC. For the record, it's called ‘flat volumes’
[01:39] <pxc> in pulseaudio, flat volume means the system maximum is dependent on the loudest open output stream
[01:40] <Ziber> thanks
[01:42] <jrdn_> 12.4 vs 12.10: Is anyone else having issues with dpkg not finding dependant libraries right away? I keep getting apt-get corruptions and have to continuesly reconfigure dpkg and update / reinstall apt-get
[01:47] <joshumax> hey, what's up with canonical's git server randomly hanging up?
[01:49] <joshumax> hmm, no ones chatting?
[01:50] <raginronaldepaul> hello?
[01:51] <kmentat> joshumax, raginronaldepaul, shh, the Oscars are on
[01:51] <joshumax> k
[01:51] <raginronaldepaul> lol srry
[01:51] <joshumax> whaa?
[01:51] <joshumax> who has my ip?
[01:51] <joshumax> guest38345 how?
[01:52] <raginronaldepaul> 24-18-22-124.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
[01:52] <raginronaldepaul> its cuz it logs ur ip when u sign up
[01:52] <joshumax> yes
[01:52] <joshumax> oh wait my friend was on irc
[01:52] <aetaric_> sign up?
[01:52] <aetaric_> >.>
[01:52] <raginronaldepaul> log on to the chatroom
[01:53] <aetaric_> that's not signing up...
[01:53] <raginronaldepaul> lol whats the difference>
[01:53] <raginronaldepaul> ?
[01:53] <joshumax> its just a difference in wording
[01:54] <joshumax> the meaning is the same
[01:54] <joshumax> i think
[01:54] <aetaric_> "signing up" is a term used when filling out a form, typically for a website.
[01:54] <raginronaldepaul> lol it is
[01:54] <aetaric_> also this channel is for ubuntu-related support
[01:54] <joshumax> Hey, what happened to all the people who asked dumb questions on this channel?
[01:54] <joshumax> yes
[01:55] <raginronaldepaul> but did you not have to fill out a form (albeit small) to get on this irc?
[01:55] <mdh> there are no dumb questions
[01:55] <aetaric_> if you want to be off topic please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:55] <raginronaldepaul> lol srry
[01:55] <joshumax> so, I actally have a support question?
[01:55] <kmentat> Sí.
[01:56] <aetaric_> about ubuntu?
[01:56] <joshumax> is it just me or is ubuntu's git servers a bit overloaded?
[01:56] <OY1R> how do i make 12.04 feel like Ubuntu ?
[01:56] <OY1R> how do i make 12.04 use gnome ?
[01:57] <aetaric_> OY1R, there are repos to install gnome3, but they break somethings iirc
[01:57] <aetaric_> joshumax, not sure about the git servers as i don't use them
[01:58] <joshumax> hmm, it might just be the volume of people accesing them right now
[01:58] <joshumax> ok, thank you
[01:58] <OY1R> so it's either the lame interface or a 'borken' distro.
[01:58] <joshumax> you could install xfce
[01:59] <aetaric_> OY1R, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1952291 the second thing on google.
[02:00] <mdh> OY1R: you can use any desktop environment pretty much, just might take a bit of work to get it the way you want
[02:00] <joshumax> exactly mdh, it may take a bit to configure but then again whats a reward without work? hehe
[02:01] <rains> thank u
[02:01] <mdh> OY1R: you might want to try mate desktop if you like gnome2
[02:02] <joshumax> or you could try gnome-fallback
[02:04] <pratose> How do I install nvidia 304.64 driver on 12.04 ? Please help.
[02:04] <joshumax> pratose, first stop gdm, switch to another tty, and run the installer as root
[02:05] <joshumax> oh wait lightdm not gdm
[02:06] <yourimym1> any ine using deja dup ?
[02:06] <excervo> hello guys can someone help me with my remote connection I'm using 12.4
[02:07] <joshumax> whats wrong with the ramote connection?
[02:07] <pratose> I'm trying to install manually.
[02:08] <joshumax> trying to install the drivers manually?
[02:09] <pratose> yes
[02:09] <joshumax> okay, so download them from nvidia's site
[02:09] <joshumax> then kill lightdm
[02:10] <pratose> already downloaded. command to kill display manager?
[02:10] <joshumax> okay, you might want to save your work..
[02:11] <joshumax> sudo service stop lightdm
[02:11] <excervo> Hello guys, any luck installing pc anywhere under ubuntu 12.10?
[02:11] <joshumax> the cd (wherever drivers were downloaded to)
[02:11] <joshumax> *then
[02:12] <pratose> driver is in download folder, i need to burn it?
[02:12] <joshumax> and finally run sudo ./NVIDIA*
[02:12] <joshumax> no
[02:12] <joshumax> just execute it without a display manager
[02:13] <joshumax> idk if it will work in gui mode but mine said you need to stop x
[02:17] <xkf815> hello?
[02:17] <joshumax> hi
[02:17] <xkf815> ~.~
[02:17] <pratose> hey josh, do you know where i can find readable instructions?
[02:18] <joshumax> instructions for what?
[02:18] <pratose> intalling drivers
[02:18] <joshumax> i can do a quick search for it
[02:18] <joshumax> if i cant find anything you could check stackoverflow
[02:19] <pratose> cool
[02:19] <joshumax> try this: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/10/install-latest-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu.html
[02:20] <joshumax> I'd give you step by step instructions pratose but I use debain which is a bit different lol
[02:22] <iFlip> Does anyone know if there is a way to setup Ubuntu LAMP 10.04 with a TV tuner server ability?
[02:22] <excervo> hello guys, can som1 advise me which remote tools are best I 'm using 12.10
[02:22] <joshumax> what is a tv tuner server?
[02:23] <joshumax> joshumax is now AFK
[02:23] <iFlip> The TV stations that are broadcasted over the air - create a server program to allow clients to watch the live TV braodcast
[02:24] <Monotoko> iFlip, through the browser?
[02:24] <Monotoko> you might be able to do with a VLC stream
[02:24] <iFlip> Essentially a media server that would allow my iPads, TV, or whatever to access the server and watch the TV staions that came into the server
[02:25] <joshumax> oh i see
[02:25] <iFlip> I have an antenna but I want something more reliable
[02:25] <iFlip> IPTV I suppose
[02:26] <joshumax> u try MythBuntu?
[02:26] <keys> hello
[02:26] <joshumax> hi
[02:26] <keys> has anyone used ubuntu for phones os yet
[02:26] <joshumax> yes
[02:26] <iFlip> I saw mythtv but that looked like a DVR of some sort maybe I didn't read enough
[02:26] <Monotoko> keys, I have.. it's not brilliant yet, certainly not useful for everyday stuff
[02:26] <joshumax> its exactly what you want i think
[02:27] <iFlip> keys - asterisk works great
[02:27] <joshumax> and the ubuntu for phones git server keeps crashing
[02:27] <keys> im looking into buying an android phone for use it on
[02:27] <Monotoko> keys, Nexus 4
[02:27] <keys> im not worried about it being great right now that will come in time
[02:27] <joshumax> u might want to wait, its more of a POC than anything
[02:27] <iFlip> keys - scratch what I said wrong topic
[02:28] <keys> whats the min ram requirements
[02:28] <joshumax> 1gb slim mode
[02:28] <Monotoko> uhm... I'm not sure, I know it's available for the N4 though, and it's a great phone (and quite cheap for its specs)
[02:29] <mdh> have they even got a terminal for ubuntu phone yet?
[02:29] <joshumax> ive seen some ports for the s3 though too, and actually right now im porting it to the d2tmo lol
[02:29] <joshumax> yes
[02:29] <keys> could it run on the agm rock / cat b10 phone
[02:29] <Monotoko> joshumax, are you sure?
[02:29] <joshumax> yes
[02:29] <Monotoko> I had to login via SSH
[02:29] <joshumax> hmm?
[02:30] <joshumax> odd..
[02:30] <Monotoko> I tried it on the day it came out... there was no terminal on it, you had to login through SSH
[02:30] <Monotoko> which was only a few days ago
[02:30] <mdh> for some reason i thought that was really suprising that there was no local terminal, would have thought that would be one of the first things to have lol
[02:30] <joshumax> i dont know
[02:31] <joshumax> the code i just checked out has gnome-terminal.desktop
[02:31] <Monotoko> mdh, I think it needed longer... I don't know why they hyped it up so much considering it clearly isn't finished
[02:31] <Monotoko> it's a platform for developers, that's it
[02:31] <genii-around> !phone
[02:31] <joshumax> yes just give it time
[02:31] <mdh> slow night here
[02:33] <joshumax> yeah it is a slow night on this channel
[02:34] <dakotawulfy> not too much going on
[02:35] <XSevenX> Can anyone help me understand what to do in this guide?
[02:36] <joshumax> what guide?
[02:36] <XSevenX> I'm trying to get a Windows program to run properly on Ubuntu through Wine, but every guide I find has a standard set where the reader would have to have familiarity with Wine and/or Ubuntu/Linux
[02:36] <XSevenX> and I have no clue how to use either
[02:36] <XSevenX> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19141
[02:36] <joshumax> well then welcome to GNULinux :)
[02:36] <joshumax> ill read it..
[02:36] <XSevenX> This guide for running League of Legends
[02:37] <XSevenX> It seemed straightforward, and then it gets into a script
[02:37] <XSevenX> I don't even understand: where this script is that I just downloaded, how to use this script, how to use wine, how to use Linux
[02:37] <XSevenX> I also don't understand anything about the script, and I don't really want to learn about it, I just want this game to work, because the entire reason I built this system was to play games and watch videos online
[02:37] <joshumax> okay.. lets step through this slowly
[02:38] <mdh> XSevenX: why didn't you just install windows?
[02:38] <maitake> lol
[02:38] <XSevenX> because I can't afford it
[02:38] <XSevenX> I don't have $300 for a copy of Windows XP
[02:38] <joshumax> well did you try zorinOS?
[02:38] <XSevenX> no
[02:38] <dakotawulfy> XSevenX: it will get easier after u use it for a while
[02:38] <joshumax> its for ppl migrating from windows to linux
[02:38] <XSevenX> I've spent the past week trying to figure out how to use this OS
[02:39] <maitake> XSevenX: it gets easier with time
[02:39] <joshumax> okay, well 1st think to know about linux, say goodbye to shiny interfaces
[02:39] <joshumax> okay, so open terminal (ctrl-shift-t)
[02:39] <XSevenX> I've got it open
[02:40] <joshumax> okay, so now all u have to do is put in this script
[02:40] <XSevenX> I'm running on Ubuntu 12.10 86_64x I believe
[02:40] <XSevenX> or 86x_64 I can't remember where the x goes
[02:40] <XSevenX> either way it's 64-bit
[02:40] <joshumax> ok
[02:41] <XSevenX> I mean I can't even figure out how to update java on this shit
[02:41] <joshumax> well see the "#" remove that where it says $WINE /path_to/LoL_installer...
[02:41] <joshumax> okay just calm down, linux can be scary to new users
[02:41] <thejakenixon> hey guys!
[02:42] <joshumax> heyy
[02:42] <thejakenixon> how is everybody
[02:42] <joshumax> good, we have a new linux user here!
[02:42] <XSevenX> joshu I don't even know where the script is
[02:42] <thejakenixon> haha that's me
[02:42] <mdh> Does Ubuntu provide java? or just openjdk?
[02:42] <joshumax> okay nvm try this
[02:42] <thejakenixon> hailing on all frequencies from 12.10
[02:42] <XSevenX> I downloaded it, but now I don't know where the common directory is
[02:42] <joshumax> forget that
[02:43] <thejakenixon> anybody on here happen to be on a lenovo laptop?
[02:43] <joshumax> um you know how to use apt?
[02:43] <joshumax> im not on one
[02:43] <XSevenX> the last time I tried to download without using the terminal for sudo apt-get etc., my Ubuntu got an internal error, and had to shut down
[02:43] <joshumax> XsevenX: do you know how to use apt?
[02:43] <joshumax> wha??
[02:44] <XSevenX> I went to..
[02:44] <thejakenixon> I'm trying to invert two-finger touchpad scrolling to go with the direction of scrolling, not against it. is this possible?
[02:44] <XSevenX> usr/bin/apt.something
[02:44] <XSevenX> as the application for a .apt file
[02:44] <XSevenX> and that caused an internal error
[02:44] <joshumax> um, well idk what that is
[02:44] <joshumax> apt is just a nify tool to download filkes from ubuntu's servers
[02:45] <XSevenX> usr/bin/apt-key
[02:45] <joshumax> so just run apt-get install wine
[02:45] <mdh> apt is one of the best features of a debian-based system, it'll make your live so much easier
[02:45] <joshumax> mdh: so true
[02:45] <XSevenX> I have Wine
[02:45] <joshumax> ok
[02:45] <XSevenX> and Winetricks
[02:45] <XSevenX> and Play on Linux
[02:46] <joshumax> well ignore the guide and right click the exe and open Legue of Legends in wine.
[02:46] <thejakenixon> anybody here know anything about what I'm asking? inverting touchpad scroll?
[02:46] <joshumax> no sorry
[02:46] <joshumax> that should work XSevenX
[02:47] <thejakenixon> alrighty well thanks anyways guys.
[02:47] <XSevenX> nothing's happening
[02:47] <joshumax> hmm
[02:47] <XSevenX> it sounded like my CPU was "working", and then it stopped
[02:47] <joshumax> right click the exe and check permissions
[02:47] <brightspark> thejakenixon: try https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Natural_Scrolling
[02:48] <joshumax> see if "allow executing file as a program" is unchecked
[02:48] <XSevenX> r/w, r/w, r-o
[02:48] <joshumax> if it is, check it
[02:48] <XSevenX> oh okay
[02:48] <XSevenX> that was unchecked
[02:48] <mdh> XSevenX: was it a kernel panic or something? did it drop you to a console and display some error message?
[02:49] <XSevenX> mdh it just said there was an internal error or something, and kept saying it over and over
[02:49] <XSevenX> so I shut down
[02:49] <XSevenX> it didn't specifically tell me I needed to, but I figured that would fix it
[02:49] <XSevenX> and it did afaik
[02:49] <joshumax> did it say it attempted to kill init?
[02:49] <XSevenX> I can't remember
[02:49] <XSevenX> it was 2 days ago
[02:49] <joshumax> oh ok
[02:49] <XSevenX> I have been trying to get this OS to work for over a week
[02:49] <XSevenX> and the more I work on it
[02:50] <XSevenX> the less patience I have with it
[02:50] <joshumax> hmm
[02:50] <intrader> Good afternoon all - For some time my laptop has been overheating and shutting down (Lenovo t61p with Linux 12.10). I run Psensors (temp2 goes over 97C) and laptop shuts down. Problem showed up recently after an auto-update. by Update Manager. Application I am running is a is firefox with any video clip (specially in full screen mode). Problem does not show up in Windows XP and FIrefox on same clip.
[02:50] <XSevenX> every time I figure something out, I have to learn something else to learn something else to learn something else, to fix something else
[02:50] <joshumax> im afraid linux isnt really for windows gaming
[02:50] <joshumax> or general users XD
[02:50] <XSevenX> anyways the guide I linked you is in place because LoL doesn't normally run on Wine
[02:50] <XSevenX> and requires some workarounds to function
[02:50] <joshumax> hmm
[02:51] <aetaric_> joshumax, well, Steam is now on linux... SO
[02:51] <XSevenX> I have at least found the script that I downloaded for the guide
[02:51] <[Mod]Jordan> Hello
[02:51] <dr_willis> after fighting with some windows games on window.. i almost think windows isent for windows gameing...
[02:51] <mdh> steam on linux is still linux gaming, not trying to run windows games through wine (or at least running it through some tested config of wine or something)
[02:52] <aetaric_> true
[02:52] <dr_willis> be nice if steam had a wine option. i know quite a few of my games can work on steam in wine
[02:52] <[Mod]Jordan> I have open suse and need to install Ubuntu open suse is on /Dev/sda5 so do I set the mounting point / and ext4 journaled?
[02:52] <XSevenX> I have been playing Counter-Strike: Source, but that gets pretty old very fast
[02:52] <joshumax> well the patch seems pretty optional to me
[02:52] <dr_willis> [Mod]Jordan:  if you want to erase the opensuse, you set / to be mounted where your suse partion was at.
[02:53] <dr_willis> ext4 is the standard fs to use.
[02:53] <[Mod]Jordan> And format?
[02:53] <joshumax> XsevenX: try rinning wine from the terminal and see if u gat an error?
[02:53] <dr_willis> and be sure it formats.. that should also be the default
[02:53] <XSevenX> how do I run it from the terminal
[02:53] <[Mod]Jordan> Dr_Willis: so check format this partition?
[02:54] <AirCombat> hi everyone, just have a quick question. is it possible, and what are the commands to convert my ubuntu 12.10 Unity/Gnome to LXDE? Can I just install the LXDE package and then select that as my default session?
[02:54] <dr_willis> [Mod]Jordan:  yes - that should allready be checked normally
[02:54] <djBuss> hey guys I tried to install php5 but the default through apt-get was 5.4, then I used a script to downgrade it to 5.3. Now I would like to install PEAR but i can't because it says the PHP 5.4 is needed
[02:54] <[Mod]Jordan> It isnt
[02:54] <mdh> wine myprogram.exe
[02:54] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  install lubuntu-desktop package is what i do
[02:54] <joshumax> what mdh said
[02:54] <djBuss> is there any way for me to select the php5.3 PEAR package in apt-get?
[02:54] <intrader> About the list commands - how do I determine if the topic has been answered?
[02:55] <XSevenX> wine cannot find C:/Windows/system32/myprogram.exe
[02:55] <AirCombat> dr_willis: and after I apt-get that package, what additional steps do I need to take?
[02:55] <XSevenX> C:\\windows\\system32\\myprogram.exe*
[02:55] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  logout, select lxde/lubuntu at the login screen.. login
[02:55] <[Mod]Jordan> And Dr_Willis can I just leave /home and swap and my files will still be there?
[02:55] <dr_willis> XSevenX:  cd to where the game is at
[02:56] <joshumax> mdh, can u help XsevenX for a sec, om going afk.
[02:56] <mdh> XSevenX: myprogram.exe is just an example, you need to run the league of legends exe
[02:56] <dr_willis> [Mod]Jordan:  IF your /home/ is on its own partition yes. Youmay need to fix the ownership of the files in home.
[02:56] <mdh> joshumax: ok
[02:56] <Tynach> Please help, I don't know what to do. I was messing around with DNS servers, and whimsically switched to <IP_ADDRESS>. Of course that doesn't work. Now I've tried switching it back to my normal DNS servers, but it won't!
[02:56] <XSevenX> okay I don't think I have a partition made for Windows
[02:56] <XSevenX> and I assume that I need that for Wine to function right?
[02:56] <dr_willis> Tynach:  0n 12.10    the default dns server is <IP_ADDRESS> i belive
[02:56] <Tynach> It shows in graphical NM settings the right DNS servers, and using nmcli I can see the right DNS server listed, but /etc/resolv.conf shows <IP_ADDRESS> still and DNS itself is not working.
[02:57] <Tynach> I'm on 12.04.
[02:57] <Tynach> I'm having to tether to my phone to get on IRC.
[02:57] <mdh> XSevenX: you don't need a separate partition, wine creates it's own windows "file system" under your home folder .wine
[02:57] <mdh> XSevenX: do you have league of legends installed?
[02:58] <dr_willis> Tynach:  you could edit the resolv.conf by hand.. you may need to restart networking for nm to change the file
[02:58] <joshumax> back what'd i miss
[02:58] <XSevenX_> disconnected or something
[02:59] <[Mod]Jordan> Dr_Willis: I.imgur.com/ZmaFZt3.png
[02:59] <Tynach> Here's the thing. DNS starts working just fine if I use DHCP, so obviously it's being set somewhere. But I have a specific IP address set (I don't control the router; can't set it router-side) and then things go south.
[02:59] <Tynach> I'll try that though.. Just to see.
[02:59] <bigbadben> I have two hard drives in my computer if I wanted to access one via the command line how would I do that?
[03:00] <joshumax> hey XSevenX i found this!: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=973373
[03:00] <[Mod]Jordan> Dr_Willis: http://i.imgur.com/ZMaFZt3.png
[03:00] <dr_willis> bigbadben:  mount it somewhere.. use the normal bash commands, cd, ls , whatever.. to access it
[03:00] <dr_willis> !bash | bigbadben
[03:00] <XSevenX_> I've seen all that stuff joshu
[03:00] <XSevenX_> the problem is I don't want to learn any of this
[03:00] <XSevenX_> I'm getting to my wit's end
[03:00] <maitake> then you're probably going to.. have a hard time tbh
[03:00] <[Mod]Jordan> Dr_Willis?
[03:01] <bigbadben> What if it is already mounted?
[03:01] <joshumax> if you dont want to learn any of this than my advice is pay for windows
[03:01] <dr_willis> [Mod]Jordan: ?\
[03:01] <XSevenX_> I'm tired of having to learn more shit everytime I want to do anything on this os
[03:01] <XSevenX_> I have yet to enjoy my brand new PC at all
[03:01] <dr_willis> XSevenX_:  so you want us to tell you to give up?
[03:01] <joshumax> hmm, try zorin OS
[03:01] <joshumax> its free and it should be a good experience for you
[03:01] <[Mod]Jordan> dr_willis: Here are my partitions are the home and swap fine? Does anything need changed http://i.imgur.com/ZMaFZt3.png
[03:01] <XSevenX_> it doesn't matter what you tell me
[03:02] <joshumax> I'm just offering a new distro meant for windows users
[03:02] <dakotawulfy> XSevenX unity not the easiest os to use
[03:02] <dr_willis> [Mod]Jordan:  i dont know what the other partions are. you could mount the otheres whever you want so you can access them
[03:02] <Tynach> dr_willis, it says "$ sudo service networking start<newline>networking stop/waiting"
[03:02] <Tynach> And does not work.
[03:02] <jasonmce> I've got a 12.04 kubuntu desktop install that I want to move to a laptop.  Is there a known way to just clonezilla to a laptop drive and replace the hardware drivers, or am I just asking for years of configuration problems?
[03:02] <Tynach> DNS still won't work.
[03:02] <dr_willis> Tynach:  try to tell it to 'restart' not start
[03:03] <AirCombat> sorry, I got disconnected. did my question get answered dr_willis ?
[03:03] <dakotawulfy> XSevenX u might want to try zorin os
[03:03] <Tynach> dr_willis, same thing.
[03:03] <XSevenX_> why do people even use this OS
[03:03] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  i dont even rember the question.
[03:03] <joshumax> well most of us arent gamers
[03:03] <XSevenX_> the only thing I've ever used a PC for is for gaming and entertainmment
[03:03] <AirCombat> :P after I install the package lubuntu-desktop are there additional steps to activate it as default
[03:03] <dr_willis> XSevenX_:  wine/windows apps is not the focus.. and 'wine game.exe' is fairly straight forward..
[03:03] <joshumax> I play minecraft sometimes and portal but linux isnt usually a gamers OS
[03:04] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  log out.. select it.. log in
[03:04] <joshumax> mainly because of the lack of cross platform apps
[03:04] <AirCombat> okay, thats what I thought. thanks
[03:04] <XSevenX_> what's the point of having a PC then?
[03:04] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  little gear icon on the login screen
[03:04] <AirCombat> XSevenX_: why are you on a computer right now then?
[03:04] <Tynach> dr_willis, I tried to restart network-manager, and it just changed resolv.conf back to <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:04] <dr_willis> computers were invented to play videos and pong! ;)
[03:04] <AirCombat> there's more than just games XSevenX_ .
[03:04] <joshumax> their's other things than just games to do on a computer.. ~.~
[03:04] <dr_willis> Tynach:  no idea then. i rarely have to mess with those settings
[03:04] <[Mod]Jordan> Dr_Willis how do I mount my home and swap drives?
[03:05] <Tynach> I have also tried rebooting to no avail.
[03:05] <AirCombat> I stream videos from my ubuntu server to my ubuntu PC in my bedroom for example
[03:05] <dr_willis> [Mod]Jordan:  same as you set for /   just dont format home
[03:05] <AirCombat> works %1000 times better than windows
[03:05] <[Mod]Jordan> Which one is home?
[03:05] <dr_willis> [Mod]Jordan:  just a guess.. the ONLY OTHER ext4 partition you have.. ;) since it cant be ntfs or fat32 for home...
[03:06] <friedg> Linux, Unix, and BSD are not for everyone
[03:06] <dr_willis> [Mod]Jordan:  mount them  and see what files are on it.
[03:06] <joshumax> true 😶
[03:07] <[Mod]Jordan> How do I see?
[03:07] <XSevenX_> all I know is at this point I'm sick of trying
[03:07] <friedg> sometimes people don't care about how it works or configuration, these people might be better off with a Mac or Windows
[03:07] <mdh> XSevenX_: to tell you the truth, probably about half ot the games you want to play will not be able to be played on linux well within 10 years of their release
[03:07] <dr_willis> mount them.. access them via the file manager  [Mod]Jordan
[03:07] <friedg> even though mac is Unix, it auto configures everything
[03:07] <XSevenX_> it's been nothing but work since I got the parts for this PC delivered
[03:07] <joshumax> well work is good, right?
[03:07] <dakotawulfy> joshumax u  like the unity???
[03:07] <dr_willis> XSevenX_:  so?
[03:08] <joshumax> no not really
[03:08] <joshumax> i miss gnome 2..
[03:08] <mdh> XSevenX_: i feel that the best advice for you if you want to run windows programs is to buy a copy of windows instead of trying to make linux run windows stuff
[03:08] <Tynach> XSevenX_, if you want video games, stick with Windows until Valve helps bring more games to Linux.
[03:08] <joshumax> Agreed..
[03:09] <dakotawulfy> i tired a lot of systems out there  most seem to be memory hungry
[03:09] <Tynach> XSevenX_, if you want a few reasons to have a PC beyond gaming and entertainment, we can list some. But they're probably not things you'd want to do anyway, given your attitude.
[03:09] <dr_willis> I do find most of the Humble Bundle/Indie games that dont have drm, tend to work well in wine for me
[03:09] <[Mod]Jordan> Dr_Willis: unable to mount home not authorized
[03:09] <Tynach> dr_willis, Humble Bundle games are primarily available natively on Linux.
[03:09] <joshumax> yeah and java games work flawlessly
[03:09] <XSevenX_> Tynach I just want to have a small amount of enjoyment for once out of my purchase
[03:09] <Tynach> XSevenX_, you did not purchase Ubuntu.
[03:09] <XSevenX_> not feel like I should regret ever making the purchase in the first place
[03:10] <XSevenX_> I paid $780 for an entire new system
[03:10] <dr_willis> Tynach:  i have quite a few that are not. had one that the linux native version was in adobe air. that wouldent even run.. wine ran the windows version fine. ;)
[03:10] <joshumax> well if you payed so much for this pc whats a little more money?
[03:10] <Tynach> Then install Windows on it.
[03:10] <XSevenX_> I can't afford windows
[03:10] <Tynach> Windows is what... $250?
[03:10] <[Mod]Jordan> Vyeah
[03:10] <joshumax> 39.99
[03:10] <[Mod]Jordan> That's 8
[03:10] <[Mod]Jordan> 7 is $250
[03:10] <Tynach> joshumax, is that for the upgrade or the full copy?
[03:10] <dr_willis> student discounts.. :)
[03:10] <[Mod]Jordan> Upgrade
[03:11] <[Mod]Jordan> Willis
[03:11] <joshumax> idk
[03:11] <[Mod]Jordan> I need you :)
[03:11] <friedg> Ubuntu is about the easiest thing you  can get for free....maybe linux mint
[03:11] <joshumax> or fedora maybe
[03:11] <Tynach> Linux Mint does have a few nice things.
[03:11] <XSevenX_> what's stupid is
[03:11] <Tynach> And I'd recommend Mint KDE.
[03:11] <dr_willis> [Mod]Jordan:  i just double click the partion in my file manager and it mounts.. or you try to mount it by hand with the mount command
[03:11] <XSevenX_> I've got licenses for Windows XP, Vista, and 7
[03:11] <intrader> About the list's commands - how do I determine if the topic has been answered?
[03:11] <Tynach> Mint KDE is very Windows-like.
[03:11] <XSevenX_> but I don't have any CD's
[03:11] <joshumax> yes Mint KDS is nice
[03:11] <joshumax> *KDE
[03:12] <Tynach> So if you want to have a minimal learning curve from Windows, use KDE.
[03:12] <XSevenX_> and microsoft refuses to give me any replacements
[03:12] <[Mod]Jordan> But I am not authorized apparently
[03:12] <mykeus> the isos are available online from microsoft directly
[03:12] <Tynach> XSevenX_, Mint KDE is on a DVD?
[03:12] <joshumax> oh no cd's use unetbootin
[03:12] <dr_willis> XSevenX_:  there are legal sites where you can get the windows 7 cd's if you got a key. saw them mentooned on the lifehacker web site
[03:12] <mdh> XSevenX_: can't you download a demo of 7 from microsoft and activate it with your key?
[03:12] <joshumax> Rules: no warez talk
[03:12] <Tynach> joshumax, if he has a key it isn't warez.
[03:12] <dr_willis> This wasent warez. it was legal because it was a MS site.
[03:13] <joshumax> oh he has it legally?
[03:13] <maitake> yes
[03:13] <maitake> 3 keys apparently
[03:13] <mdh> he needs install media, but has keys
[03:13] <joshumax> oh
[03:13] <dr_willis> According to Lifehacker site.. yes.. since it was from the same site you get windows when you buy it online.
[03:14] <dr_willis> they also had rescue/repair cd images which was what i needed.
[03:14] <dr_willis> the ##windows channel should know more
[03:14] <joshumax> XSevenX if u live by seattle you could go to pce they have free copies of xp legally
[03:15] <dr_willis> or he could spend the time and learn some linux skills.. ;)
[03:15] <maitake> ^^
[03:15] <maitake> it's fun
[03:15] <joshumax> it tis fun!!
[03:15] <mdh> not so fun if all you want to do is run windows only stuff though
[03:16] <maitake> has anyone suggested PlayOnLinux to him?
[03:16] <mykeus> man will be your best friend
[03:16] <joshumax> instead of playing LoL u could try compiling your own kernel, dont love it til u do it
[03:16] <friedg> sometimes you need to find a linux equivalent to a windows program
[03:16] <dr_willis> irc is the ultimate MMORPG
[03:16] <joshumax> oops stype
[03:16] <joshumax> *typo
[03:17] <maitake> personally i've customed out my gnome-shell installation and now i love it too much.. having to use windows at work drives me up the wall
[03:18] <dr_willis> hmm. steam on windows has like 30+gb of updates for me..  so i let it run as i slept.. woke up,, and it had auto logged me out.. and  thus stopped all updateing.. now nice of you steam...
[03:18] <joshumax> lol
[03:18] <dr_willis> hope they dont do the same thing on linux..
[03:18] <intrader> Anyluck on this item? Good evening all - For some time my laptop has been overheating and shutting down (Lenovo t61p with Linux 12.10). I run Psensors (temp2 goes over 97C) and laptop shuts down. Problem showed up recently after an auto-update. by Update Manager. Application I am running is a is firefox with any video clip (specially in full screen mode). Problem does not show up in Windows XP and FIrefox on same clip.
[03:19] <joshumax> try "acpi -a" intrader
[03:19] <AirCombat> after I install LXDE or KDE is it possible to free up space by deleting unity/gnome?
[03:19] <AirCombat> or is that a bad idea?
[03:20] <joshumax> no u can do that AirCombat
[03:20] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  i wouldent remove it.. unless you are really tight on space
[03:20] <joshumax> just dont let it uninstall X
[03:20] <AirCombat> lol conflicting answers.
[03:20] <joshumax> lol
[03:20] <AirCombat> okay joshumax how do I do that?
[03:20] <joshumax> best to be on the safe side
[03:20] <dr_willis> my answer was not conflucting..
[03:20] <AirCombat> (I liked your answer better ;)
[03:20] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  and how big is your hd?
[03:20] <AirCombat> 120GB
[03:20] <joshumax> well if you type apt-get autoremove unity blah
[03:21] <intrader> joshmc, I am istalling acpi
[03:21] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  and you are lacking in space? My whole linux system is on a 128gb SDD
[03:21] <joshumax> make sure your display manager and X arent in the uninstall list
[03:21] <AirCombat> pretty close dr_willis, I have lots of media on that HDD
[03:21] <joshumax> 120GB, uninstalling wint same much space
[03:21] <AirCombat> so the shells are pretty small then?
[03:22] <chipo> alguien que pueda hablar español por privado?
[03:22] <joshumax> pretty much, ~100mb
[03:22] <dr_willis> compared to the huge size of video files these days.. yes
[03:22] <joshumax> ~12mb shell only
[03:22] <AirCombat> okay cool. thanks guys! I always learn a lot when I come in here.
[03:22] <escott> !es | chipo
[03:22] <joshumax> yw, i learn alot here too
[03:22] <intrader> joshmc, acpi -a >>'Adapter -: on-line'
[03:22] <AirCombat> oh yeah, one more question. how do I defrag in ubuntu?
[03:23] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  no need to.. thats windows thinking
[03:23] <joshumax> no need to
[03:23] <AirCombat> so linux writes in sequence on the HDD?
[03:23] <dr_willis> !defrag
[03:23] <joshumax> intradar: does it show power supply power?
[03:23] <joshumax> *and heat?
[03:23] <AirCombat> interesting... didn't know that.
[03:23] <intrader> joshmc, acpi -a >>'Adapter 0 : on line'
[03:23] <AirCombat> god I love this OS.
[03:23] <joshumax> ;) its awesome
[03:24] <joshumax> hmm
[03:24] <intrader> joshmc, yes - I am having overheating problems with the battery so I took in out
[03:24] <joshumax> try acpi -c
[03:26] <intrader> joshmc, response is three lines Cooling 0: LCD 0 of 15
[03:26] <intrader> Cooling 1: Processor 0 of 10
[03:26] <intrader> Cooling 2: Processor 0 of 10
[03:26] <joshumax> no temp readouts
[03:26] <bigbadben> My computer just froze up and I had to kill the power to it, how do I find what the error is
[03:26] <joshumax> maybe its not acpi, stupid me
[03:27] <joshumax> ok i think i found a fix intrader
[03:27] <joshumax> it overheats when using firefox right?
[03:27] <intrader> joshmc, I am running psensor - temp2 is the range that is hit at the op end. How, do you find the fix?
[03:28] <AirCombat> hmm.. that website explained well why ext4 doesn't need defragging, except when close to full. and I'm definitely over %80. will it take care of itself?
[03:28] <dr_willis> full is like in the 98% range
[03:28] <dr_willis> even then. the system reserves 5%  for root ussage
[03:29] <AirCombat> yeah, I know that your performance will REALLY suffer when you get that close to %100. but with ext4 do you not lose performance in the %75-%90 range?
[03:29] <joshumax> well it could be numerous things
[03:29] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  i doubt it.
[03:29] <escott> AirCombat, properly designed filesystems will only be unable to dynamically defrag when the amount of free space is close to the size of the fragmented files themselves
[03:29] <joshumax> idk but i gtg guys. Today's pizza night :P
[03:29] <joshumax> Bye
[03:30] <AirCombat> okay. cool. man I love linux! I can't say it enough. I'm going to drop windows entirely soon.
[03:30] <escott> AirCombat, if you have 5 gigs free and a bunch of 3MB music files fragmentation really isn't going to be a problem
[03:30] <AirCombat> thanks dr_willis , joshumax  and escott
[03:30] <AirCombat> right but I have about 15GB free and like tons of 700mb to 2.4GB video files
[03:30] <XSevenX_> huehuehue, I just did a replacement request for my Win XP disc via Microsoft and got a system error messages from their website
[03:30] <XSevenX_> how stupid.
[03:31] <XSevenX_> my Windows XP disc is "OEM" (system builder package), so I can request a replacement because I was never given an original CD
[03:31] <AirCombat> XSevenX_: see? ubuntu's looking better already ;) downloading .isos is easier
[03:31] <XSevenX_> there is nothing on ubuntu that interests me
[03:32] <XSevenX_> this OS literally cannot do the only things I use a PC for
[03:33] <intrader> Joshumax I am anxiously waiting.
[03:34] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  best to keep your video files on a external (or other) hard drive. not the small SDD
[03:34] <dakotawulfy> intrader thought he left
[03:34] <AirCombat> yeah, I'm going to transfer them to my media server I guess. it's got almost 1TB. however my network is slow... all those files will take ages.
[03:34] <dr_willis> isent XP officially dead yet?
[03:35] <mykeus> yes support is
[03:35] <intrader> dakotawulfy, so sorry, so joshumax is gone?
[03:35] <AirCombat> dr_willis: yeah, very close. they're ending all support soon.
[03:35] <AirCombat> mykeus: some support still exists
[03:35] <XSevenX_> ..wtf
[03:35] <escott> AirCombat, this is an SSD? then fragmentation isn't really applicable anyways because its not a raw device
[03:35] <dr_willis> XSevenX_:  if you just built this pc.. then XP has a very good chance of not working.. or not having proper drivers for the new hardware
[03:35] <AirCombat> its not an SSD
[03:35] <dakotawulfy> intrader yep
[03:35] <XSevenX_> I have all of the installation discs for the drivers required by all the hardware in my PC
[03:35] <XSevenX_> my Win XP key is for Win XP Pro 64-bit
[03:36] <dr_willis> XSevenX_:  and hopefully they included xp support in the drivers.. i have quite a bit of hardware with NO xp support..
[03:36] <intrader> joshmc, joshumax said that he found a fix - I wonder what it is!
[03:37] <dakotawulfy> intrader fix for what i missed it
[03:37] <AirCombat> I just gave up on XP about a month ago, upgraded to Vista. now I'm transitioning from vista to ubuntu. best decision I ever made. EVERYTHING runs better & faster, from games to media, to network
[03:37] <AirCombat> anyway, thanks a ton, as usual guys. ttys.
[03:38] <XSevenX_> games don't run at all on Ubuntu
[03:38] <intrader> dakotawulfy, ,Anyluck on this item? Good evening all - For some time my laptop has been overheating and shutting down (Lenovo t61p with Linux 12.10). I run Psensors (temp2 goes over 97C) and laptop shuts down. Problem showed up recently after an auto-update. by Update Manager. Application I am running is a is firefox with any video clip (specially in full screen mode). Problem does not show up in Windows XP and FIrefox on same clip.
[03:38] <XSevenX_> and I used Vista for 3 years
[03:38] <XSevenX_> I would rather be using Vista right now instead of Ubuntu
[03:38] <dr_willis> XSevenX_:  i have quiet a few games that run on Ubuntu..
[03:39] <dr_willis> XSevenX_:  if you dont want ubuntu support.. then  theres other channels for you to hang in.  If you want support we are here to help.
[03:39] <intrader> dakotawulfy, ,joshmc had me run acpi -c with the following multiline results:Cooling 0: LCD 0 of 15
[03:39] <intrader> Cooling 1: Processor 0 of 10
[03:39] <intrader> Cooling 2: Processor 0 of 10
[03:40] <baumy> so i have a computer that needs to go through an html network login page to access the internet, so i can't use apt-get install to get firefox, which i need to put my info into the login page. is there an easy way to download the firefox package and all of its dependencies so i can stick them on a thumb drive?
[03:41] <intrader> baumy, use the 'Ubuntu Software Center'
[03:42] <baumy> its a server install
[03:42] <escott> baumy, there is not a good way
[03:42] <escott> baumy, you could try and use a text browser like lynx or links
[03:42] <baumy> already tried, the login page rejects it
[03:43] <baumy> ugh
[03:43] <escott> baumy, but firefox requires too much stuff
[03:43] <baumy> yep
[03:43] <baumy> thats why this is gonna be a bitch
[03:43] <aglet7> when i input "grep -c *c" it lists all the files which end with c but then also has a number after a colon. What does that number represent
[03:43] <escott> aglet7, line number
[03:43] <aglet7> escott, thanks : )
[03:43] <myersg> I need to remove all java, and open java stuff from my computer
[03:44] <myersg> and reinstall it
[03:44] <dr_willis> myersg:  why?
[03:44] <myersg> I messed it up.. and its not working right
[03:44] <dakotawulfy> intrader let me see what i can find does look like a bug
[03:44] <myersg> or didn't install right
[03:44] <dr_willis> myersg:  the open java can be removed/.reinstalled via the package manager tools..
[03:45] <dr_willis> thats the icetea java
[03:45] <myersg> how do I remove the normal java? jdk and jre?
[03:45] <intrader> dakotawulfy thanks - there are a lot of folks with overheating problems on ubuntu 12.10 - could be a bug
[03:45] <baumy> escott: slightly noob question, what folders do all the firefox stuff get installed to?
[03:45] <XSevenX_> overheating problems?
[03:45] <dakotawulfy> yep seen that
[03:46] <dr_willis> myersg:  you said 'all' java - so i would guess you want to remove all of those jdk and jre.. we dont know what you messed up
[03:46] <daughain> Can someone point me in the right direction to find out how to regain access rights to an old external drive? Running 12.04, if it matters.
[03:46] <escott> baumy, its not so much firefox but all the support libraries that are the problem. X11, sqlite, gtk? etc
[03:46] <myersg> ok.. give me a minute
[03:46] <dr_willis> daughain:  access it as root via sudo. from a live cd. or installed system., or recovery mode
[03:46] <escott> baumy, you might be able to find a statically linked firefox, but even that...
[03:47] <daesu_> Anyone know a good store like system76 in Korea ?
[03:47] <dr_willis> daughain:  what filesystem is on the HD?
[03:47] <intrader> XSevenX_, dakotawulfy  is following up on the overheating problems for t61p lenovo running linux 12.10 firefox video clip
[03:47] <escott> baumy, do you have a laptop that could put in ics mode between it
[03:47] <escott> ?
[03:47] <myersg> I used this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kl6BBedu4uplvhdFvF2s82rPcCi6ElY8PUbrsCBNVKs/edit
[03:47] <XSevenX_> oh
[03:47] <escott> baumy, or put the server in ics for the laptop, and then use the laptop to punch the hole through?
[03:47] <daughain> dr_willis, This is, and always has been an external drive. Should be ext3
[03:47] <XSevenX_> I don't think I've got any overheating issues
[03:47] <escott> !ics | baumy
[03:48] <XSevenX_> but I just wanted to know if there was a reason to be concerned because I'm using 12.10
[03:48] <escott> baumy, and if its a one time thing you could do it all static so you dont need to install much
[03:48] <dr_willis> daughain:  for ext2/3/4 you  can mount it as you would an internal drive. if you want a USER to have access to it. hen you need to chown the files on it - to be owned by that user
[03:49] <intrader> XSevenX_, when I go full screen Psensors temp2 goes to 97C and the machine shuts down.
[03:49] <daughain> dr_willis; I'd prefer no to remove it from the casing. Can I simply chown using the mount point?
[03:50] <dr_willis> daughain: err.. who said anything about removeing it from the caseing?  the same commands apply to internal OR external drives.. you chown the files  and  that would include the mountpoint AFTER its mounted - if you want the user to have full access to the root of the hard drive
[03:51] <LoneTrooper> Hi I have a problem. I just installed propriety drivers for the all-in-one printer/scanner HP 1050A and printing works fine but i can't change quality for scanning. Its like all type of files that have been saved (even png) comes with ugly jpeg compression artifacts. I have Xsane and simple scan to handle scans. I was trying to change preferences in these progs but that did nothing. In Windows i could easy do that. Does anyone have s
[03:51] <LoneTrooper> ome suggestions pls?
[03:51] <XSevenX_> intrader I installed that application Psensor
[03:51] <dakotawulfy> intrader u could try this
[03:51] <dakotawulfy> "TPFanContro
[03:51] <daughain> I'd prefer root access, but as long as I can read and write to it, thats fine. Basically, I plug it in, it mounts, then says I have no access.
[03:51] <dakotawulfy> "TPFanControl
[03:52] <dr_willis> daughain:  accessing it as a USER.. that makes sence.. since its ext2/3/4 - its owned by someone otehr then that user...
[03:52] <dakotawulfy> let u manual control over the fans
[03:52] <intrader> dakotawulfy, what should I try?
[03:52] <dr_willis> daughain:  use the shell and  access it as root..  and you should have full access
[03:52] <daughain> dr_willis, Thanks for the help.
[03:53] <intrader> XSevenX_, from the terminal start it and then choose temp2
[03:53] <XSevenX_> it's up
[03:53] <dakotawulfy> intrader check out
[03:54] <XSevenX_> I have temp 1, temp 2, GPU, core 0, core 1, physical ID 0, /dev/sda, and cpu usage
[03:54] <intrader> dakotawulfy, check out what?
[03:54] <dakotawulfy> http://sourceforge.net/projects/tp4xfancontrol/
[03:55] <intrader> XSevenX_, that's is correct - I have temp2 and cpu usuge tracing
[03:55] <XSevenX_> wtf
[03:55] <XSevenX_> my "core 0" just went up to 41c
[03:55] <XSevenX_> and then shot back down to 29c
[03:55] <LoneTrooper> so anyone knows about scanning issues with linux?
[03:55] <dakotawulfy> be careful is a heat problem don't want to go with it too long
[03:56] <intrader> dakotawulfy, should I go to the sourceforge url?
[03:56] <dr_willis> or is it a heat getting missreported problem?
[03:56] <dakotawulfy> see if u can find info for it read up on it
[03:56] <dakotawulfy>  looks like that could be a fix for u
[03:57] <intrader> dakotawulfy, I was wondering why I don't hear fans on this machine
[03:58] <dakotawulfy> it might not be coming on
[03:58] <dakotawulfy> that might be your problem
[03:59] <dakotawulfy>  maybe the power management for your laptop not detecting it right
[03:59] <dakotawulfy> that tool
[03:59] <dakotawulfy>  should let u set it at something to see if thats it
[04:00] <madsailor> LoneTrooper, can't help except to say hplip and simple scan do the trick for me on 12.04 for a Photosmart c4700 series
[04:00] <daughain> Ok, what am I missing here? daughain@Antiquity-Mobi:/media$ sudo chown -hR /storage
[04:00] <daughain> chown: missing operand after `/storage'
[04:01] <LoneTrooper> madsailor so i must find another program to do so?
[04:01] <LoneTrooper> or its just because of drivers...
[04:02] <LoneTrooper> but thx for answer
[04:03] <intrader> dakotawulfy, I definitively do no have problem with same videos on Windows XP on same machine; fans do not go on yet!  It is is only Linux.
[04:04] <dakotawulfy> intrader sorry that for xp
[04:04] <dakotawulfy> no sorry
[04:04] <dakotawulfy>  thought that was tool for linux
[04:04] <surbs> is it possible to remove the "desktop" folder from Ubuntu One as a shared folder? I understand that you can stop syncing it, but what about removal from the application?
[04:05] <dakotawulfy> intrader if your driver that controls that on linux is not right u will have that problem
[04:06] <intrader> dakotawulfy, and the correct driver is... Video driver?
[04:06] <madsailor> LoneTrooper,  I can't help 'cause it 'just worked' for me and didn't have any issues.  I installed hplip from the software center along with simple scan, and it all worked out of the box.  I don't know what driver you are using, but you might try uninstalling it and using the hplip driver
[04:06] <dakotawulfy> intrader do u know if u have power management  working or installed
[04:07] <dakotawulfy> well that could be it to
[04:07] <dakotawulfy>  did u try jocky to install the driver
[04:08] <un-1> hello
[04:08] <LoneTrooper> im using proprietary drivers from hp's web site (thats hiplip 3.13.2)
[04:08] <un-1> Could someone help me with a Red5 question?
[04:09] <intrader> dakotawulfy, power management is running and set to run the laptop at full speed as I have the Windowx XP set at. By the way Psensor show fan1 ad 3055 RPM ( is is WAY silent!)
[04:09] <glo> Help. 3 times to install ubuntu 12.10 Finally works but runs like molasses... nearly unusable.
[04:09] <LoneTrooper> i had to cos those drivers that come with xubuntu could print well ( i had yellow replaced by green lol)
[04:10] <LoneTrooper> could not
[04:10] <dakotawulfy> right that in windows but what about linux
[04:10] <dakotawulfy> did u open the powermanament in linux see if u could set it up
[04:11] <glo> Need to know. Is linux suppossed to run like windows?
[04:11] <daughain> Can someone help me with some chown problems?
[04:11] <intrader> dakotawulfy, power management show up as an optiion when the battery is in. As I said, the battery overheated, and I am running the laptop without it.
[04:11] <glo> Tok 2 hours to get to this forum.
[04:12] <glo> Whats a chown
[04:13] <dakotawulfy> intrader so not getting hot without battery
[04:13] <dakotawulfy> ???
[04:13] <daughain> chown is a cli command to change ownership of files/folders/etc
[04:13] <glo> Ubuntu thinks my pc is a laptop .. can not change it.
[04:13] <histo> glo: What type of video card do you have?
[04:14] <histo> glo: Why do you think it thinks your pc is a laptop? It doesn't think at all.
[04:14] <glo> thanks, nvidia 8600 gts
[04:14] <madsailor> LoneTrooper,  if the drivers you got from HP aren't specific to xu/buntu that may be some of the problem.  I'd hold on to the install (.deb) you got from HP as a fallback,  uninstall that, and install the version from the ubuntu repos (3.12.2)
[04:14] <glo> athalon 64 3200 1.99 ghz 1.5 gram
[04:14] <madsailor> then if you have no luck you can always return to where you're at now
[04:14] <histo> glo: under system settings > software sources > There is a Hardware tab
[04:15] <histo> glo: Install proper drivers for your nvidia card there as they aren't provided out of the gate on ubuntu due to licensing restrictions.
[04:15] <histo> glo: You are currently running the open source nouveau driver which doesn't have as good of performance as the nvidia driver.
[04:15] <intrader> dakotawulfy, it does get hot and shuts down. It is worse if a page with multiple videos are showing.
[04:16] <glo> thanks ... its run  ing    s ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo    slooooooooooooooooooooooow... big pain.
[04:16] <LoneTrooper> yeh i had them but like i said by printing some colors were wrong i had to change to proprietary ones
[04:16] <daughain> How do I change the computer name?
[04:17] <LoneTrooper> the most important thing that printing works now i think i dont need to scan in nearest future
[04:17] <histo> !hostname | daughain
[04:17] <dakotawulfy> intrader have not found it yet  but should be a tool to let u controle the fans
[04:17] <intrader> dakotawulfy, sorry I misled you about the battery. I had to take batery out. due to the overheating problems on the laptop. The side on the left top is way hot (cook and egg easily)
[04:18] <dakotawulfy> see still think it is a power management issue
[04:18] <un-1> could I get some help from someone?
[04:18] <glo> it will take awhile  to open that
[04:19] <un-1> I have been working on this problem for 9 hours and im stuck
[04:19] <dakotawulfy>  do u have that problem in windows with the battery ???
[04:19] <tgm4883_> !ask | un-1
[04:19] <LoneTrooper> GLO - if u re looking for what performance drivers for windows and linux offer u should check for example http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_windows_part1&num=1
[04:19] <glo> software sources is open... now where?
[04:19] <un-1> ok sorry about that.
[04:19] <intrader> dakotawulfy, the fan is cycling and shows in PSensor - so something is controlling it. I don't like unity as a lot of the control functionality is not easily accessible or different
[04:20] <dakotawulfy> yep unity is hard
[04:20] <dakotawulfy> sorry did not find the fix for it
[04:21] <un-1> I am trying to setup a streaming server using red5.  I have installed the deb, but the server doesnt seem to run.  I am running it on ubuntu 12.04 on a cloud server, VPS.  I have Root ssh access, and am trying to figure out how to do use RED5.  I would rather not use wowza as it is propriatary and I am all about open source.
[04:21] <histo> glo: the hardware tab at the top
[04:21] <intrader> dakotawulfy, the fan grill is hot but I can't really detect a fan stream.
[04:22] <histo> un-1: why did you enable root? especially for ssh login?
[04:22] <dakotawulfy>  look to see if u can find a program to control the fans  and see if u can set the fan to a higher speed on the video card
[04:22] <glo> it was initially running a linux graphic driver. I opted for the Nvidia listed. NOw I can not find that list. It was however slower with the linux gxo whatever.
[04:22] <madsailor> LoneTrooper,  you should be able to get full functionality as hp printers are pretty well supported on the 'buntu platforms.  Unfortunately, I'm not the one to help you get there.  You might take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HPPrinterInstallation.
[04:22] <DarkLord> can anyone answer a display question for Ubuntu
[04:22] <un-1> histo: I was given access as root to start, this is what the provider gave me.
[04:22] <madsailor> or you could just print out a sign to remind yourself to do it later since printing is working ;)
[04:22] <histo> un-1: oh boy... anyhoot http://www.red5.org/support/
[04:23] <dakotawulfy> intrader i dont think it is telling it to work right
[04:23] <histo> un-1: Shouldn't be enabling root account when we are using sudo. Especially shouldn't be enabling root to login over ssh.
[04:23] <glo> It's just to slow to work with.
[04:23] <LoneTrooper> ok i check this out madsailor thx for a tip
[04:23] <histo> glo: did you install the nvidia driver?
[04:23] <glo> yes
[04:24] <histo> glo: After installing it, it should ask to reboot. then you will see a diference.
[04:24] <nicolenicole> I cannot install Ubuntu 12.10 64-bit via UEFI live DVD to a computer with Windows 8 Pro 64-bit, any help?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2119734
[04:24] <glo> been there.
[04:24] <histo> !uefi | nicolenicole
[04:25] <nicolenicole> I've already read that
[04:25] <un-1> histo: should I desable root and just use sudo?
[04:25] <glo> Where is that driver list option.
[04:25] <intrader> dakotawulfy, 3765 RPM and ranges from 3025
[04:25] <DarkLord> can anyone tell me why half of my top bar where the time is displayed and the bar on the right side i can only see half of both of them on my 46 lcd?
[04:26] <histo> nicolenicole: I would verify your disk with md5sum real quick just to be sure.
[04:26] <nicolenicole> the disk is fine, it installed on my old computer ok
[04:27] <dakotawulfy> intrader do u know for sure that is the fan on the video ???or if it has one on video ??
[04:27] <dakotawulfy> seem low
[04:27] <histo> nicolenicole: It only takes minutes to check. But you can keep guessing at what's wrong or eliminate possibilities and troubleshoot.
[04:27] <DarkLord> anyone?
[04:28] <histo> DarkLord: overscan?
[04:28] <glo> thanks... done with linux
[04:28] <nicolenicole> I've tried several disks and all have the same issue, the problem is definitely with the computer somewhere, my guess is either graphics or in the EFI settings
[04:28] <daughain> DarkLord, I havent used anything bigger than a 26, so no clue
[04:28] <histo> glo: Okay you cant open a terminal ctrl+alt+t and sudo apt-get install nvidia-current then reboot
[04:29] <intrader> dakotawulfy, maybe the Psensor is measuring current to fan and not speed of fan and air flow . The PSensor graph shows the fan speed to go past 4000 RPM when temp2 shows 97C. I could try a youTube at full screen and see what happens next
[04:29] <histo> nicolenicole: Disable efi then and see if that's the issue. Boot in legacy mode.
[04:29] <DarkLord> its a fresh install of Ubuntu for a new user of Linux on my windows 7 Ult i had the amd catalyst control that let me scale the window to fit
[04:29] <nicolenicole> I tried that already, same issue
[04:29] <LoneTrooper> Does anyone have xnViewMP installed? Program can't properly display files (it shows few bars across the screen) if using high quality zoom (either with reduce, enlarge or both) on images with reduced depth of colors (except grayscale). Has anyone experienced this on ubuntu 12.10?
[04:29] <un-1> Thank you everyone found the info I was look for.
[04:30] <histo> nicolenicole: Then it's not EFI so.....
[04:30] <nicolenicole> I tried installing on both MBR and GPT partition tables, with UEFI disabled and enabled, several times
[04:30] <histo> nicolenicole: Okay and what happens each time?
[04:30] <surbs> is it possible to remove the "desktop" folder from Ubuntu One as a shared folder? I understand that you can stop syncing it, but what about removal from the application? (last time posting, thank you to whoever responds)
[04:30] <nicolenicole> if it isn't EFI then it might be a graphics issue, several posts said I needed to press F6 and use nomodeset
[04:31] <histo> !patience | surbs
[04:31] <histo> nicolenicole: Have you tried passing that option?
[04:31] <nicolenicole> I get the text menu to try or install Ubuntu after the UEFI disc boot, upon selecting option, get a blank black screen
[04:31] <nicolenicole> F6 doesn't do anything
[04:31] <nicolenicole> I've tried pressing it at several points during the boot and throughout
[04:31] <histo> nicolenicole: F4 i think is the options menu it should say right at the bottom.
[04:32] <dr_willis> surbs:  theres a #ubuntu-one channel that may know more on the specifis.
[04:32] <dr_willis> I dont think i have 'Desktop' as a Ubuntu one shares/synced folder.
[04:32] <intrader> dakotawulfy, as soon as I have a full screen video the temperature temp2 starts going up- video http://www.tricedesigns.com/2013/02/19/video-introduction-to-phonegap/
[04:32] <histo> come on hard drives 110MB/second need mor espeed
[04:32] <nicolenicole> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2119734 --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 doesn't work
[04:33] <daughain> dr_willis, got so,e time to help me with my HD?
[04:33] <nicolenicole> I didn't try F4 though
[04:33] <dr_willis> daughain:  what do you need?
[04:33] <surbs> histo, dr_willis: thank you. my apologies for the double post, patience certainly is a virtue!
[04:33] <LoneTrooper> anyone had or have XnViewMP?
[04:33] <nicolenicole> it looks like the F-keys are for the graphic menu and not the UEFI text menu though?
[04:33] <daughain> dr_willis, chown didnt work too well. the drive did something, but it didnt give me ownership.
[04:34] <dr_willis> daughain:  what was the exact command you used?
[04:34] <daughain> sudo chown -hR root /media/storage
[04:34] <daughain> dr_willis, as i recall.
[04:34] <dr_willis> daughain:  it was most likely allready owned by root...
[04:35] <intrader> dakotawulfy, up to 95C, it will shut the machine down shortly
[04:35] <histo> nicolenicole: You can try the alternate iso for a text based installer.
[04:35] <dr_willis> daughain:  and your want to access it via the gui as your user? or how excatly?
[04:35] <nicolenicole> I'll probably get lost, but according to the Ubuntu instructions, I shouldn't need it?
[04:36] <intrader> dakotawulfy, up to 96C and very hot to touch --- fan1 to 2950RPM???
[04:36] <daughain> dr_willis,  Prefferably so I can access it on the gui of 3 different computers. I did a reinstall on my desktop, and thats when the reading issues started.
[04:36] <dr_willis> daughain:  you have the same user on 3 differnt computers?
[04:36] <daughain> Yes.
[04:36] <dr_willis> daughain:  then chown the mountpoint and files to be owned by that user.. not root
[04:37] <daughain> HOw do I do that?
[04:37] <dr_willis> chown -R username:username /media/whatever
[04:37] <dr_willis> with a sudo at the front. ;)
[04:37] <antonio_> I'm working on a friends computer that they just bought...can
[04:37] <antonio_> can't get wireless...using a livecd to test the wireless...
[04:37] <nicolenicole> could EFI be preventing the live DVD from booting?  I get the boot menu though
[04:37] <daughain> dr_willis,  Ok, will try that, thanks.
[04:37] <DarkLord> is there a scale in Ubuntu that alows you to scale the size of windows my 46 lcd is in 1080 but my side bar and yop bar is cut in half
[04:38] <antonio_> what terminal commands can I use to see if there is a working wifi card in it?
[04:38] <surbs> dr_willis, histo : never mind figured it out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/149124/how-do-i-remove-a-folder-from-the-ubuntu-one-folders-tab
[04:38] <dr_willis> DarkLord:  are yopu using a TV as a pc  monitor?
[04:39] <intrader> dakotawulfy, up to 98C and very hot to touch --- fan1 to 3295RPM???
[04:39] <histo> nicolenicole: Which boot menu are you getting can you post a screenshot?
[04:39] <histo> !paste | nicolenicole
[04:39] <nicolenicole> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI --> Identifying if the computer boots the CD in EFI mode
[04:39] <DarkLord> dr_willis yes i use a tv as my main monitor for my laptop
[04:40] <histo> nicolenicole: Perhaps someone else can help you
[04:40] <nicolenicole> the CD boots in EFI mode but when selecting try or install goes to a blank screen
[04:40] <dr_willis> DarkLord:  then its the tvs Overscan settings/modes thats trimming off the edges of the screen.
[04:40] <antonio_> What terminal command can I use to see if there is a wifi card in a laptop?
[04:40] <slava_> ai ne ponemai
[04:40] <dr_willis> antonio_:  lspci
[04:41] <daughain> Ok, not the drive I thoiught it was, but one I thought was lost!
[04:41] <nicolenicole> could it just be a graphics issue?
[04:41] <nicolenicole> the computer was manufactured in 2012 by HP with AMD graphcis
[04:42] <histo> DarkLord: You can play with DPI settings,resolutions, or play with the TVs settings. Most have a button on the remote for different modes
[04:42] <nicolenicole> *graphics
[04:42] <intrader> dakotawulfy, up to 98C - grill would burn finger or palm
[04:42] <slava_> кто небудь помогите как пользоваться консолью ???
[04:42] <daughain> And poeple wonder wjhy I refuse to buy HP anymore.....
[04:42] <histo> nicolenicole: It could be anything but you don't want to try anything.
[04:42] <DarkLord> dr_willis before i installed Ubuntu i had the amd catalyst center that had a slider that would change the scale of the windows
[04:43] <DarkLord> do i need to install a video driver or does Ubuntu auto install one?
[04:43] <histo> DarkLord: what version of ubuntu?
[04:43] <dr_willis> DarkLord:  ive used that befor.. then i discovered my tv had a 'turn off overscan' option
[04:43] <dr_willis> DarkLord:  the fglrx driver is normally NOT installed by default
[04:43] <DarkLord> Im usung Ubuntu 12.10
[04:43] <slava_> au pomogite
[04:43] <DarkLord> 64bit
[04:43] <aetaric_> nicolenicole, i've actually run into that problem... i can get 12.04 alternative iso to boot but only if i add the kernel option "nomodeset"
[04:44] <nicolenicole> yes I saw those posts
[04:44] <aetaric_> which breaks X11 later... :/
[04:44] <nicolenicole> it said to use F6 to install with nomodeset
[04:44] <histo> DarkLord: Click the gear up by the clock go to system settings > Software Sources > hardware tab
[04:44] <nicolenicole> but F6 doesn't do anything, is there another way?
[04:44] <aetaric_> not sure
[04:45] <aetaric_> the iso i've been using loads grub2
[04:45] <nicolenicole> what is the alternative ISO?
[04:45] <aetaric_> it's a text based installer...
[04:45] <nicolenicole> does that install the full Ubuntu?
[04:45] <aetaric_> yes
[04:45] <nicolenicole> I would need a manual, I'm not the best at command line :-p
[04:45] <aetaric_> but my X11 doesn't load
[04:46] <aetaric_> so there's that
[04:46] <nicolenicole> do you have a link with instructions?
[04:46] <DarkLord> histo there is not a hardware tab for me in software sources only Ubuntu software, other software updates, authentication and additional drivers?
[04:46] <nicolenicole> what is X11?
[04:46] <histo> nicolenicole: press e on that boot screen you are seeing
[04:46] <dr_willis> DarkLord:  addational-0drivers is what you want
[04:46] <aetaric_> !X11
[04:47] <nicolenicole> I would have to log out
[04:47] <daughain> Is there a way to test an HD that wont mount?
[04:47] <nicolenicole> *of here
[04:47] <aetaric_> !x11 | nicolenicole
[04:47] <dr_willis> daughain:  try mounting it by hand. look for error messages in dmesg if it fauls
[04:47] <dr_willis> fails
[04:47] <nicolenicole> so you don't have GUI?
[04:47] <aetaric_> nope
[04:47] <histo> nicolenicole: well you can press e and it should bring up a kernel line at the bottom of the screen you can add whatever options you want to the selected kernel at the end of the line
[04:47] <aetaric_> i'm stuck in bash
[04:47] <nicolenicole> eeks no that is not for me
[04:47] <nicolenicole> I'm a casual user lol
[04:47] <DarkLord> additional drivers doesnt show anything
[04:48] <aetaric_> DarkLord, you will need to install jockey for addition drivers
[04:48] <histo> DarkLord: you can lspci -k    and see which driver is being loaded for your Video device
[04:48] <histo> aetaric_: nope
[04:48] <[Relic]> Am I thinking properly for getting rid of old kernel versions;  remove them with whatever package manager then run apt-get clean to remove them from the disk?
[04:49] <daughain> dr_willis, Errr...What I mean is, I plug it in, and all the drive does is spin up. I cant tell if the computer is even detecting its exist\ence.
[04:49] <aetaric_> histo, jockey isn't installed by default anymore
[04:49] <nicolenicole> @histo press "e" when I get to the text menu for UEFI disk boot?
[04:49] <histo> aetaric_: 12.10 moved the additional drivers dialog to software sources there is a tab there.
[04:49] <aetaric_> well that's silly
[04:49] <aetaric_> there's nothing wrong with jockey
[04:49] <nicolenicole> at histo, press "e" when I get to the text menu after UEFI disc boot?
[04:49] <histo> nicolenicole: yes you select which boot option you are going to use with the up and down arrows and then press e to edit that line.
[04:49] <nicolenicole> whoah, sorry, chat got stuck
[04:50] <histo> aetaric_: jockey-text is still installed I believe
[04:50] <antonio_> dr_willis: this is what I get when I use lspci http://s98.beta.photobucket.com/user/con_movies/media/2013-02-24_18-42-12_32_zps9dffbc29.jpg.html
[04:50] <nicolenicole> ok then what?
[04:50] <intrader> dakotawulfy, GPU to 102C - I think that the measurement of fan is only the current not the flow. I don't feel airflow - just hot keyboard
[04:51] <nicolenicole> according to the forums, if it is a graphics issue, I need to use "nomodeset" then it will return the graphics after installing
[04:51] <histo> nicolenicole: add your nomodeset or whatever to the end of the line
[04:51] <nicolenicole> can you give me exactly what I need to type?
[04:51] <histo> nicolenicole: yeah nomodeset
[04:51] <nicolenicole> oh ok
[04:51] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[04:51] <nicolenicole> just type that and hit enter?
[04:52] <histo> nicolenicole: at the end of the kernel line yes.
[04:52] <nicolenicole> ook
[04:52] <nicolenicole> logging out, thanks
[04:52] <histo> nicolenicole: inside the "'s if there are any
[04:52] <nicolenicole> *ok
[04:52] <dr_willis> normally i put  it as 'quiet splash nomodeset'
[04:52] <nicolenicole> so press "e" then type "nomodeset" and hit enter
[04:52] <dr_willis> or 'noquiet nosplash nomodeset verbose' that way i see all the boot messages
[04:52] <dr_willis> nicolenicole:  No... you EDIT a line..
[04:53] <intrader> dakotawulfy, is there a way to superinpose PSensor on the full screen runing the youTube?
[04:53] <nicolenicole> I'm not sure what that means
[04:53] <dr_willis> nicolenicole:  look for the line with 'quiet splash' put nomodeset btween them
[04:53] <nicolenicole> ok... I'll play with it, logging out, thanks
[04:54] <antonio_> dr_willis: any idea about this?
[04:55] <DarkLord> how do you bring up the console in ubuntu 12.10?
[04:56] <histo> DarkLord: ctrl+alt+F1-F6  or you can open a terminal? is that what you mean?
[04:56] <histo>  DarkLord ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to GUI
[04:56] <DarkLord> histo yes i meant terminal
[04:56] <histo> DarkLord: ctrl+alt+t
[04:56] <dr_willis> antonio_:  if the cards seen. it should be in that list.  I dont do enough wifi to know what cards are what.
[04:57] <histo> DarkLord: or you can type terminal in the dash and it will show you icons for gnome-terminal
[04:58] <DarkLord> histo this is what it gave me when i put that command into the terminal http://dpaste.com/991628/
[04:58] <dr_willis> antonio_:  i see no 'network' stuff there at all. but i could be overlooking it.
[04:58] <antonio_> I don't either
[04:58] <histo> antonio_: There is not network cards showing up in your lspci
[04:58] <antonio_> some crackhead sold my friend a laptop and told them wireless worked
[04:59] <dr_willis> i got a cheap wifi dongle  i plug into machines so i can then use the addational-0drivers tool to get drivers for the built in wifi - if needed
[04:59] <histo> antonio_: I would check dmesg after clearing it and bootign to see if it even sees a card
[04:59] <dr_willis> antonio_:  does the addational-drivers tool suggest anything?
[04:59] <histo> DarkLord: You are currently using the radeon driver
[05:00] <nicolenicole> omg thank you!  yes it worked like a charm, just hit "e" and entered "nomodeset" after "quiet splash" and hit F10 and went to start loading Ubuntu graphics, going to switch to Ubuntu Studio 12.10 to install, hope that goes ok now
[05:00] <histo> nicolenicole: good luck
[05:00] <DarkLord> yes is that the most recent one or something cause this only being able to see half of the side and top bar is really annoying
[05:00] <dr_willis> nicolenicole:  the install cd has the same option.. but in a differnt way. ;)
[05:01] <nicolenicole> they should be the same both being 12.10 yes?
[05:01] <histo> DarkLord: It's your resolution settings with your TV
[05:01] <histo> DarkLord: what does xrandr show you current resolution at?
[05:01] <antonio_> have you guys ever heard of a display computer not having internet connections?
[05:02] <histo> antonio_: yes.
[05:02] <DarkLord> but it was working fine in full 1080p earlier today on Win 7 Ult
[05:02] <histo> DarkLord: Okay and what does xrandr say?
[05:02] <histo> DarkLord: You may need to change your resolution or turn off overscaning with your tv
[05:02] <DarkLord> xrandr is that something i need to type in the terminal?
[05:02] <histo> DarkLord: yes
[05:03] <histo> nick_h: What should be the same?
[05:03] <dr_willis> turning off overscanning.. is  the best fix i find.
[05:04] <DarkLord> http://dpaste.com/991645/
[05:05] <histo> DarkLord: 1018mm x 573mm  Is this the size of your display?
[05:05] <DarkLord> no on my tv i have it set on the 1920 x 1080 (16:9)
[05:06] <histo> DarkLord: No the physical size. It's a 46" tv right?
[05:07] <DarkLord> yes its a 46 sony lcd
[05:08] <histo> DarkLord: try xrandr --dpi 48
[05:08] <CallingPanther> hello
[05:08] <mehdi_> my icons and top panel when i run Libreoffice writer goes blurry  how can i reset it to normal? ecept unity --reset?
[05:09] <DarkLord> they are still cut off
[05:09] <histo> DarkLord: did it accept the command? you may need to use sudo xrandr --dpi 48
[05:09] <histo> DarkLord: and did anything change
[05:09] <c4nuck> hey any of you guys manage your iphone 4s in linux ?
[05:10] <DarkLord> yes it acepted it no error or anything and i believe the left bar showed alittle more but not much but the top bar no change
[05:10] <histo> DarkLord: check xrandr and see if the dpi is being changed on the hdmi connection or the lvds
[05:11] <histo> DarkLord: if it's changing the lvds we need to xrandr -display HDMI-0 --dpi 48
[05:11] <histo> DarkLord: This would all be much easier to fix by just turning overscan off on your tv
[05:11] <DarkLord> i looked for overscan on my tv but didnt see an option for it
[05:12] <CallingPanther> Is there like a channel for IRC noobs or those that are re-learning IRC?
[05:13] <DarkLord> here is the new xrandr http://dpaste.com/991678/
[05:13] <djBuss> How can i select the version of the package for a apt-get install?
[05:14] <histo> DarkLord: and you said you tried the catalyst control center?
[05:15] <histo> djBuss: there aren't multiple versions in the repos
[05:15] <DarkLord> no i had it on my windows that was what i had to use to scale but i downloaded it again from amd.com the linux version and couldnt figure out how to install it
[05:15] <histo> DarkLord: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:15] <djBuss> histo, yes there are. I need to install PEAR for php 5.3
[05:16] <djBuss> but i'm running ubuntu QQ
[05:16] <djBuss> it defaults for PHp5.4 and PEAR for PHP5.4 as well
[05:17] <histo> !find pear
[05:17] <djBuss> !find php-pear
[05:17] <djBuss> !find php-pear 5.3
[05:17] <histo> djBuss: What makes you think there are multiple versions in the repos?
[05:18] <histo> !info php-pear | djBuss
[05:18] <histo> djBuss: Notice the version that's the version you will get if you install php-pear in quantal
[05:18] <histo> djBuss: The only other option is to install pear and php yourself either from ppa or sources
[05:18] <djBuss> oh ok
[05:19] <djBuss> but I could install one package
[05:19] <djBuss> by selecting it version, let me just remember what was it
[05:20] <histo> djBuss: I'm sure there are some but they would have #'s after their name like php5 vs. phpx
[05:20] <djBuss> i believe it was php-gd
[05:21] <dup> !viewnior
[05:21] <histo> djBuss: it doesn't appear that php-pear has been packaged in multiple versions but i'm not on ubuntu to check atm.
[05:21] <djBuss> histo, how could I check the list of version for php5-gd for instance?
[05:22] <histo> djBuss: apt-cache search php5-gd   in terminal or search the software center for php5-gd packages
[05:26] <djBuss> histo, thank you i'll try to find a different repository then...
[05:26] <histo> !ppa | djBuss
[05:27] <histo> djBuss: Is there a reason you want to use an older version btw?
[05:31] <nonan> !apt
[05:35] <singh_abhinav> i have messed up my dpkg, i was installing 'php-java-bridge-j2ee' and something got broke,  now when ever i'm installing new software (using sudo apt-get install)  it is complaining 'E: The package php-java-bridge-j2ee needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.'   how should I fix my dpkg now (i want to get rid from php-java-bridge-j2ee)
[05:35] <Aesthetic> so...im running 12.10.   had to reinstall unity/lightdm/compiz in order to clean out some problems i had.   now i cant get GUI during boot.  i can manually start it by doing startx or service lightdm restart in another tty
[05:35] <Aesthetic> how do i make this default?
[05:36] <DarkLord> how do i navigate in the terminal to a folder on my home screen
[05:36] <dr_willis> DarkLord:  cd /path/to/dir    which may be /home/yourusername/Desktop/foldername    in your case
[05:36] <dr_willis> DarkLord:  now would be a good time to read a bash tutrial or 2
[05:36] <histo> singh_abhinav: sudo apt-get purge php-java-bridge-j2ee
[05:37] <dr_willis> and Case IS imporntant DarkLord
[05:37] <Aesthetic> actually service lightdm start only brings me back to my kernel boot screen.    only startx and service gdm start work
[05:37] <Aesthetic> and its the old style login, not the new one
[05:37] <dr_willis> you can set up gdm to launch at boot via 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm'
[05:37] <dr_willis> or select lightdm perhaps.
[05:37] <DarkLord> dr_willis bash? im guessing that is something that will help me out alot, got a link for a good tutorial cause i def. need all the help i can get
[05:37] <dr_willis> its hard for us to know what has happened to your syustem
[05:38] <dr_willis> !bash
[05:38] <dr_willis> theres 100000s of guides and sites on bash
[05:38] <dr_willis> i always check delicious.com to see which ones have been tagged the most.
[05:38] <histo> DarkLord: you can also type man into    in a terminal to get a brief introduction
[05:39] <dr_willis> man intro  ?
[05:39] <Aesthetic> dr_willis: i think thats my problem....only startx works, and that brings me into directly into desktop
[05:39] <DarkLord> ok thanks everyone for the help
[05:39] <Aesthetic> while service gdm start gives me old-style login
[05:39] <Aesthetic> but lightm wont start and give me modern login
[05:40] <dr_willis> no idea how you would manage to break lightdm.
[05:40] <dr_willis> i use gdm normally. i find it easier to use
[05:40] <histo> DarkLord: I hardly use the GUI anymore though...
[05:40] <histo> Aesthetic: Does it error if you try and start lightdm?
[05:41] <Aesthetic> yeah...."rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call".......
[05:43] <adas> this room is always packed!
[05:43] <Aesthetic> actually...after i fully shutdown lightdm.....  starting it just takes me to kernel boot screen (where you see all the things listed thats loading)
[05:44] <g_dmin> hello
[05:44] <Deezo> hi
[05:45] <Deezo> sudo rm -rf /
[05:45] <benjaminess> Hello can some please tell me if this dell server can run a version of ubuntu? http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/en/840_specs.pdf I tried a live cd and live usb no luck
[05:46] <g_dmin> where are you from?
[05:46] <Deezo> my laptop wouldnt boot into linux without both a live cd and usb, perhaps try that/
[05:47] <CallingPanther> xchat question.... any takers.
[05:47] <serp_> ??
[05:47] <serp_> benjaminess: what error are you getting?
[05:48] <histo> !ask | CallingPanther
[05:48] <benjaminess> It will just hang at the loading screen and get stuck
[05:48] <Aesthetic> so yeah...after reinstalling lightdm/compiz/unity.....ubuntu just hangs at kernel boot screen (the list of [ OK ] "   i can go into another tty and do startx, but cant get this doing it by default
[05:48] <histo> benjaminess: What video card is in the machine?
[05:48] <benjaminess> I'm thinking the bios is out of date
[05:48] <benjaminess> Embedded ATI ES1000 with 16MB memory
[05:49] <benjaminess> maybe its the video card
[05:50] <madsailor> CallingPanther, xchat has support in the #xchat channel
[05:50] <histo> benjaminess: try booting with the nomodeset option
[05:50] <histo> !nomodeset | benjaminess
[05:50] <Aesthetic> dmesg says lightdm  main process terminated with status 1
[05:50] <CallingPanther> well my issue is xchat/ubuntu related
[05:51] <c4nuck> hey any of you guys manage your iphone 4s in linux ?
[05:52] <CallingPanther> I am using Ubuntu 12.04 and when I start xchat there is no icon on my side bar
[05:52] <Deezo> no, i boot into an OS X partition to manage my ipod touch
[05:52] <benjaminess> Awesome Thank you, I'll give it a try
[05:52] <rekha> hey, i have an acer aspire one that hasn't a screen, and i want to boot it from usb... thoughts? i'm not sure what the boot order is, but i'm pretty sure f12 is boot from device
[05:53] <Deezo> rekha: might as well give it a try, sounds like fun
[05:53] <rekha> deezo right, but what do you think? just methodically press down once, twice, three times, etc?
[05:53] <Deezo> try a brief google search on which button, if all else fails then just hold it down?
[05:54] <histo> rekha: yes F12 is boot menu. on revo I have one
[05:54] <rekha> no it seems to stop there, the question is getting it to boot from usb
[05:55] <histo> rekha: Not sure which choice is USB on that menu though. Probably press down once and then enter. Why do you not have a monitor or a tv?
[05:55] <rekha> because i don't?
[05:55] <rekha> if i did this would be simpler :P
[05:55] <histo> rekha: You can hook the revo up to a television with hdmi cable
[05:56] <histo> You dont' own a TV?
[05:56] <histo> rekha: What computer are you talkign to us on now?
[05:56] <CallingPanther> rekha: are you using it as a server?
[05:57] <rekha> one of several laptops, however, all the options seem to be booting the hdd. and for now, yes, i have a usb stick preconfigured to load x11vnc so i can conect
[05:57] <rekha> and no, no tv
[05:57] <CallingPanther> ahh
[05:57] <alienaut> hey is there a alternative to linked app on ubuntu https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dash-docs-snippets/id458034879?mt=12
[05:57] <alienaut> its called dash
[05:57] <CallingPanther>  let me get my netbook
[05:58] <rekha> it's an aspire one d255, so i'm not sure if it uses th mouse for bios but it doesn't seem that new
[05:59] <histo> rekha: do you have a keyboard plugged into it?
[05:59] <rekha> histo: it's a netbook, so it has one already
[05:59] <rekha> the screen is cracked pretty brutally, so i get next to no response out of it. i get dark, and slightly-less-dark but that's it
[05:59] <histo> rekha: Oh not a revo gotcha... I'm thinking of the little nettop systems
[06:00] <histo> rekha: A flashlight will help possibly to show the screen if not hook up an external monitor or TV.
[06:00] <rekha> yeah, but essentially the same thing at this point, but i'm hoping to set it up via vnc so i can use it for playing music/radioshows via keyboard just by booting it
[06:00] <histo> rekha: None of this has anythign to do with ubuntu though it's more of a #hardware question.
[06:00] <rekha> histo: yeah, monitor is on the list, don't own a tv...
[06:01] <rekha> that is true
[06:01] <histo> rekha: You could just make a cli box no need for monitor and ssh in etc.. to control apps. I have a nettop like that as my server.
[06:01] <rekha> yeah, that's the plan, but the question is booting the usb drive still, once i get that i'm good to go
[06:01] <histo> rekha: I would just borrow a monitor to get it installed and then run it headless. Disable any halt on errors in the bios also.
[06:02] <rekha> that's the plan, however, fairly unique situation so i'm not going to be able to do that in the overly near future
[06:02] <histo> rekha: http://www.instructables.com/id/Install-Windows7-on-to-a-Acer-Netbook-from-a-USB-F/step7/Acer-Netbook-BIOS-boot-order/ this may help
[06:03] <CallingPanther> sorry mine is ZG5
[06:03] <rekha> oh so it should just be the top one, cool
[06:03] <histo> rekha: it has bios setting keys etc... and pictures you maybe able to navigate through it following these instructions
[06:03] <dup> How do I select a gtk theme and icon theme without a gui? Where is the configuration file?
[06:04] <dward> Hi everyone, I'm (semi-)new curious about something
[06:05] <dward> Not very technical at all but I was wondering. Is there an ubuntu equibalent to screenfetch for gentoo or archery for arch?
[06:06] <histo> dup: gconf probably in xml files in your ~ there are console based editors I can't think of them right now.
[06:06] <dup> histo: Thanks, I'll take a look.
[06:06] <histo> dward: You want it to be cli based or are you using a gui?
[06:07] <histo> dward: there is scrot or you can hit the print screen button on a default install
[06:07] <dward> cli would be better i guess
[06:07] <dward> i was just wondering if anything existed
[06:07] <dward> along those lines
[06:08] <histo> dward: yes there are plenty apt-cache search screenshot  would show some suggestions
[06:08] <histo> dward: or search the software center for screenshot
[06:08] <dward> no that's not what screenfetch does
[06:08] <dward> or archery
[06:08] <dup> scrot is in the repos.
[06:08] <histo> dward: okay what does it do?
[06:09] <dward> purely asthetic, let me find some screenshots
[06:09] <histo> dward: do you mean archey? like the little info script
[06:09] <Aesthetic> hrmm
[06:09] <histo> dward: that comes up when you open a terminal or ona login shell?
[06:09] <madsailor> dward : http://www.linuxandlife.com/2012/02/how-to-install-screenfetch-and-archey.html
[06:09] <Aesthetic> i checked /var/log/boot.log   and see that lightdm starts, but then it says stopping gnome display manager
[06:09] <dup> Oh, screenFetch. That script works on Ubuntu.
[06:09] <dup> Download it from the git page.
[06:09] <dup> And it'll run.
[06:10] <dup> Archey works on Ubuntu, too, I think.
[06:10] <dward> oh ya looking it up
[06:10] <Aesthetic> maybe cus i removed my .gnome and .gnome2 dirs?
[06:10] <Aesthetic> so cleanout old settings
[06:10] <histo> dward: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1561984
[06:10] <dward> I see that it works on many distrobutions
[06:10] <histo> dward: yeah it's just a script tha tpulls info from various sources and displays it.
[06:10] <dward> thanks for the info
[06:11] <histo> Aesthetic: Do you have lightdm selected as the default instead of gdm?
[06:11] <dward> i wanted to use the cool ascii ubuntu symbol for my wm background
[06:11] <dup> What wm are you using?
[06:12] <dup> Just out of curiosity.
[06:12] <dward> now i can just swap in my gentoo config, i've been using awesome for about six months
[06:12] <histo> dward: there are other tools to turn pictures into ascii also
[06:12] <Aesthetic> histo: yep
[06:13] <dward> switched over from xmonad, i much perfer lua.
[06:13] <dward> over haskell
[06:13] <histo> Aesthetic: You can remove those directories and still boot. Lightdm doesn't need them.
[06:13] <Aesthetic> like i said...if i bounce to anotheer tty and type "startx" im good
[06:13] <histo> ughh lua
[06:13] <histo> Aesthetic: yeah but startx just starts your desktop right?
[06:13] <Aesthetic> yup
[06:13] <dward> histo: better then haskell imo. I feel like i'm god writting commandments when i program in haskell
[06:14] <Aesthetic> no menys tho
[06:14] <Aesthetic> *menus
[06:14] <histo> Aesthetic: Yeah it's not starting lightdm. You need to figure out why the lightdm service is failing to load
[06:14] <histo> Aesthetic: sudo status lightdm
[06:14] <histo> Aesthetic: and sudo start lightdm
[06:14] <Aesthetic> says stop/waiting
[06:14] <Aesthetic> when i do status
[06:14] <histo> Aesthetic: Okay start it
[06:15] <histo> Aesthetic: How did this all start btw?
[06:15] <Aesthetic> yeah...when i try that...it bounces me to the regular gui tty....
[06:15] <Aesthetic> which is at the kernel boot screen
[06:15] <a4gg4ga> Can I get some help with ubuntu, I think I have an easy problem
[06:15] <Aesthetic> showing "checking battery state..."
[06:15] <histo> Aesthetic: and it just sits there it never starts lightdm?
[06:15] <Aesthetic> and underneaath that a shell script for a server app ive been using for years
[06:15] <dward> a4gg4ga, ask away
[06:15] <Aesthetic> histo: correct
[06:15] <histo> Aesthetic: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[06:16] <Aesthetic> histo: ok....same thing it lets me just pick default display manager
[06:16] <a4gg4ga> I'm trying to install ubuntu from a USB. The OS i'm using right now is Ubuntu. Just want a fresh reinstall where ubuntu deletes this current OS and makes a new Ubuntu
[06:16] <histo> Aesthetic: yeah pick lightdm and restart
[06:16] <Aesthetic> yup...many times
[06:16] <Aesthetic> have even tried purge...and install
[06:17] <a4gg4ga> But in start up disk creator and with the proper iso i'm getting An uncaught exception was raised:
[06:17] <a4gg4ga> [Errno 30] Read-only file system: '/media/PENDRIVE/.disk/base_installable'
[06:17] <Aesthetic> again...this is after i decided to purge/remove lightdm compiz unity, and reinstall them
[06:17] <histo> a4gg4ga: can you pastebin the output of mount
[06:17] <a4gg4ga> This is the same USB i used to install ubuntu before btw
[06:17] <histo> Aesthetic: is ubuntu-desktop installed?
[06:17] <histo> Aesthetic: also are you still trying to use unity?
[06:18] <histo> a4gg4ga: open a terminal and type mount | pastebinit
[06:18] <histo> a4gg4ga: or just copy and paste the output of mount to paste.ubuntu.com
[06:19] <a4gg4ga> I can't tell what key makes the tall line in the command you typed
[06:19] <dward> histo: does ubuntu desktop ship with pastebinit automatically?
[06:19] <a4gg4ga> oh right, sorry it's late lol
[06:19] <roach> any minecraft fans?
[06:19] <a4gg4ga> The program 'pastebinit' can be found in the following packages:
[06:19] <ANub> dward: No, it does not
[06:19] <a4gg4ga>  * pastebinit
[06:19] <a4gg4ga>  * pastebinit
[06:19] <a4gg4ga> now what
[06:19] <FloodBot1> a4gg4ga: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:19] <roach> the launcher i grabbed from their site isn't really working
[06:20] <a4gg4ga> Darn
[06:20] <roach> i can launch minecraft, but once i click log in the window goes black
[06:20] <a4gg4ga> Am I unmuted
[06:20] <dr_willis> roach:  i would start by launching it from the command line and seeing if it works.
[06:21] <dward> roach: haven't tried that launcher, i usually use a vm or my windows boot.
[06:21] <dward> roach, what are the errors?
[06:21] <roach> dr_jesus... will look into that
[06:21] <dward> roach, any?
[06:21] <nearst> a4gg4ga, try with java -jar <minecraft.jar>
[06:21] <roach> dward, i don't see any errors
[06:21] <dward> roach, are you using the latest launcher>
[06:22] <Aesthetic> histo: my net went down...did you say anything?
[06:22] <dward> rocah, i'm under the imperession that it was released relatively recently
[06:22] <roach> http://i.imgur.com/FdnNrMF.png
[06:22] <a4gg4ga> I guess i'll just try to install from a CD instead, thats really weird because I have the proper ISO and program to put it onto the USB that installed it before
[06:23] <dward> roach, do you get anything at all?
[06:23] <dward> roach the lauch screen to show up?
[06:23] <roach> yes, the launch screen does show up
[06:23] <roach> i can type in my username and password
[06:23] <roach> this happens when i click login
[06:24] <roach> " try launching it with java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
[06:26] <dr_willis> so.. did you try it?
[06:26] <roach> yes, same thing happened :(
[06:27] <roach> http://pastebin.com/fZnEFJuy
[06:27] <dward> are you using the opensource jre or oracle
[06:27] <dward> @roach
[06:27] <roach> oracle
[06:28] <roach> @dward
[06:30] <Aesthetic> histo?
[06:31] <CallingPanther> am I still here?
[06:31] <CallingPanther> Guess so
[06:33] <Aesthetic> my net went down so i may have missed any last thing you said
[06:33] <Folorn> does anyone know a good tool to download for unzipping bzip files please and where to find it?
[06:34] <Ben64> Folorn: bzip2
[06:35] <CallingPanther> what is the cli xchat package name?
[06:35] <Folorn> should be just xchat
[06:35] <Folorn> atleast for debian distros
[06:35] <serp_> roach: are you on 64 bit ubuntu?
[06:36] <Folorn> apt-get install xchat if thats what your asking :)
[06:36] <Ben64> uh... pretty sure the x in xchat is for X, so there is no cli version
[06:36] <CallingPanther> or is there a better cli IRC client that will work on say ubuntu 8.04
[06:36] <mgolisch> irssi?
[06:36] <serp_> CallingPanther: try weechat
[06:36] <CallingPanther> is it easy to use?
[06:37] <serp_> yes pretty easy
[06:37] <serp_> the major difference is that your mouse doesnt work
[06:37] <dward> roach, are you still there? sorry, i'm studying a little. try to set your LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[06:37] <serp_> switch channels with alt+numbet
[06:38] <CallingPanther> my laptop running 8.04 server has no mouse anyway
[06:38] <CallingPanther> unfortunately nothing higher will work on it
[06:39] <vnc786> i want remove gnome because i am trying xfce how do i remove completely gnome ?
[06:39] <Aesthetic> ugh....lightdm just wont start
[06:39] <Aesthetic> wtf
[06:39] <ttoti> Is there anyway to hide the  unity bar when window is maximized?
[06:40] <dr_willis> irssi or weechat are the top text/console irc clients id say.
[06:40] <elky> ttoti, the side panel with the launchers?
[06:40] <CallingPanther> ttoti: that is an excellent question
[06:40] <dr_willis> ttoti:  it auto hides for me allready..
[06:40] <dr_willis> oh wait.. im thinking fullscreened
[06:40] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:40] <dr_willis> not quite the same.
[06:40] <dward> roach, then  extract this LJGL to $HOME/.minecraft in a certain order
[06:41] <ttoti> Yeah the side panel. It doesnt autohide for me
[06:41] <ax562> irssi rocks
[06:41] <dward> roach, if you are still there and want me to tell you the order to setup those jars, respond
[06:41] <Folorn> um whats the command to un-tar/unzip a file again i always forget its like tar -xcf something?
[06:41] <dr_willis> it should autohide for Fullscreened games and so forth.. maxamized. no it shouldent
[06:41] <dr_willis> there is an auto-hide all the time option
[06:41] <dr_willis> !info unp
[06:41] <dr_willis> Folorn:  i tend to use 'unp'
[06:41] <dward> roach, happy to but i don't want to waste the effort typing if you left
[06:41] <elky> ttoti, if you type appearance in the unity dash search, you'll get the Appearances thing, click that and there's a tab (which isn't obvious) that says behaviour. it's in there.
[06:42] <ax562> @dr_w do you know if Im having trouble with my dvd drive during install and I get kicked to shell, can I mount ext-dvd drive and load install from there using shell?
[06:42] <Folorn> dr_willis wont let me says something about being uncompatable
[06:43] <ttoti> Oh sweet. Thanks elky. Got it :)
[06:44] <Folorn> nope didn't work
[06:44] <Folorn> any other ideas ?
[06:44] <Folorn> god bzip files suck :) oof
[06:45] <CallingPanther> how do you install irissi in terminal
[06:45] <Folorn> any other ideas for the command then would really help .....or links for untaring/ungziping
[06:45] <CallingPanther> tried apt-get install irissi said unable to locate
[06:46] <Folorn> oof.. so close
[06:46] <Folorn> no other ideas ?
[06:47] <dr_willis> you use bunzip for bzip archives
[06:47] <CallingPanther> never mind mispelled it
[06:47] <dr_willis> !archive
[06:48] <Folorn> oof
[06:50] <adas> had an install problem and was wondering if someone could help?
[06:50] <dr_willis> #bunzip2 filename.txt.bz2 (where filename.txt.bz2 is the name of the file you wish to uncompress)
[06:50] <Folorn> nm :)
[06:50] <adas> had an install problem and was wondering if someone could help?
[06:51] <Folorn> no doc had to un tar/gz it first but then you run that afterwords to bzip right ?
[06:51] <elky> adas, state what the problem is, we don't know if we can help until you tell us.
[06:52] <CallingPanther> ok so now on irssi
[06:53] <CallingPanther> how do you switch between channels again?
[06:53] <adas> my dvd drive isn't working so well and is having trouble reading the 12.04 cd
[06:54] <adas> it loads for a minute then goes into sector read erro but kicks me to shell
[06:54] <leptone> adas, you could try making a bootable usb drive
[06:54] <elky> Folorn, any reason why 'tar -xvfj' (iirc) isn't enough?
[06:54] <adas> bios does not support
[06:54] <adas> has to be disk drive
[06:55] <elky> adas, is this when running the install cd?
[06:55] <adas> my question is, if its possible to mount external dvd drive from shell that ubuntu install kicks me to and load install from external
[06:55] <adas> yes
[06:56] <elky> adas, and the cd was made on the slowest possible write speed setting?
[06:56] <Folorn> ive got it now
[06:56] <Folorn> but how ya install it lol
[06:56] <adas> so basically it boots up from internal disk drive (12.04 install cd) and just clunkers its way through a couple different screens, then read errors out to shell
[06:56] <Folorn> after its been un tared
[06:56] <elky> Folorn, tar?
[06:57] <elky> oh, what are you untarring?
[06:57] <Folorn> yes
[06:57] <Folorn> its un tared just dunno how to install after its been unarchived
[06:57] <vnc786> how do I remove completely gnome in ubuntu 12.04 64 bit ?
[06:57] <elky> i missed the first part of your query earlier. i don't know what archive you just extracted
[06:57] <Folorn> and its now a just a reg folder.. normally ive got a debian/package installer i just right click with elky
[06:57] <elky> "it" ?
[06:57] <adas> @elky i believed i used auto speed detect but not sure if I can change write speed
[06:58] <adas> using linux k3b and some other burner app
[06:59] <elky> adas, it won't go super slow unless you tell it to, nobody writing their music to cd wants to wait, and it doesn't matter for music files, but it does for linux isos
[06:59] <elky> i can't say i've burned a cd in the past 3 years either i'm afraid, so i haven't a clue what to suggest
[07:00] <elky> my latest laptop doesn't even have an optical drive :D
[07:00] <adas> i guess I can try..but I KNOW MY DRIVE DOESN'T WORK PROPERLY...so looking for work around
[07:01] <adas> so my real question is can I mount external and load from there once ubuntu errors out to sheLl?
[07:02] <elky> adas, that depends entirely on how much it got through.
[07:02] <elky> if it got as far as a full dash shell, probably. if it's a busybox shell, probably not.
[07:03] <elky> adas, you could take the hdd out and connect it in or to another machine , install, then put the hdd back in the machine that lacks usb boot in bios
[07:04] <___leaf___> Hello, on 12.04. I'm using rkhunter. When I check rkhunter.log, it's empty even though I ran rkhunter recently, any suggestions please as to why this is happening?
[07:04] <adas> yeah, thats a lot of work, and I would have to buy hardware
[07:05] <adas> if im going that route id rather buy a new dvd drive
[07:05] <adas> was wondering if anyone had some skills with the shell in install instances
[07:05] <Aesthetic> ugh...at least gdm works
[07:05] <Aesthetic> wtf could have broken lightdm so much?
[07:07] <adas> maybe not?
[07:11] <adas> thanks for the help
[07:11] <adas> 1
[07:11] <brianblaze> good evening beautiful people!
[07:13] <DaDaDosPrompts> Has anyone had any troubles with libvdpau when watching YouTube on Firefox in 12.04 lately?
[07:13] <DaDaDosPrompts> Mine complains about the .so file for that library every time I open a YouTube page, dumping its complaint onto the STDOUT of a terminal I have open elsewhere (Firefox isn't being called from that terminal)
[07:18] <dward> Aesthetic: when you use startx to start lightdm are you using sudo or regular
[07:18] <dward> Aesthetic: after boot, not that that is the issue. but what user are you using startx with
[07:19] <imran2> i need help with the scrolling issue
[07:20] <DaDaDosPrompts> welp, I figured out at least part of the problem
[07:20] <DaDaDosPrompts> my instance of firefox had been created by a `fossil ui` call to an open fossil repo
[07:21] <DaDaDosPrompts> which is why it was appearing on the STDOUT or STDERR of my terminal
[07:21] <DaDaDosPrompts> hm
[07:22] <imran2> can any one help me fix the system wide scrolling issue , using the mouse wheel scroll?? button
[07:23] <dward> imran2: is it a new issue? sounds like a problem with your driver
[07:23] <dward> imran2, what type of mouse is it
[07:23] <imran2> canyon USB based
[07:24] <imran2> it scrolls
[07:24] <imran2> but not like how i would do in windows?
[07:25] <dward> imran2, what do you mean
[07:25] <imran2> i cannot configure the no of lines i can scroll
[07:27] <dward> imran2, not sure if that is implemented with ubuntu standard configs
[07:27] <dward> imran2  it is probably dependent on the driver
[07:28] <imran2> no it is not possible
[07:28] <imran2> to use the genome based s
[07:28] <imran2> ubuntu provided mouse applet
[07:30] <imran2> the problem is that it causing me pain in my Carpal tunnel syndrome
[07:30] <imran2> such a problem is not found in Windows
[07:30] <imran2> or when i use windows
[07:31] <oldude67> how do i change from normal gdm in ubuntu to lubuntus lightdm?
[07:32] <dward> oldude67, the normal display manager for ubuntu is lightdm
[07:33] <oldude67> dward, then how do i kill the log on noise? when it boots? its loud/
[07:35] <dward> oldude67, you can use ubuntu-tweak
[07:36] <dward> oldude67, http://ubuntu-tweak.com/downloads/
[07:36] <dward> it's a tweak tool for unity
[07:36] <oldude67> dward, ill look into it. just thought there was away to kill the log on sound. just forgot the speakers were on and its late here...pives me off sometimes.
[07:36] <dward> it has a gui with the option to turn off the login sound
[07:38] <oldude67> and unity is like windows 8 wont ever use it.
[07:39] <oldude67> if it wasnt for not putting /home on a seperate partition, id just redo the whole dang thing.
[07:39] <dward> oldude67 okay i have a solution for you then
[07:40] <oldude67> dward, hold on im reading about the tweaks thanks for the info.
[07:40] <dward> oldude67 you gotta find the greeter config file
[07:41] <dward> oldude67 mine is here /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/com.canonical.unity-greeter.gschema.xml
[07:41] <dward> but you can find it with 'locate unity-greeter | grep xml'
[07:41] <oldude67> dward, ok, give me a sec. lets see what it has to say.
[07:42] <dward> oldude67 near the end is the config for the sound
[07:42] <dward> oldude67 just change true to false
[07:42] <oldude67> dward, thanks im about half way there...lol. old and tired.
[07:42] <dward> oldude67 not super friendly but no need to get ubuntu-tweak
[07:43] <oldude67> dward, k thanks, looking at both right now.
[07:45] <dward> no problem. I like to keep my system clean too, so i avoid those extras if i can. ubuntu is all about making things eaiser though so....
[07:45] <dward> easier usually means gui
[07:47] <toiletofwisdom> hi all
[07:47] <J2cloud> i am too unregged
[07:48] <J2cloud> redded
[07:48] <J2cloud> ...you know what
[07:48] <dup> wat
[07:49] <J2cloud> Hello everyone
[07:49] <J2cloud> Is anyonne awake?
[07:49] <toiletofwisdom> Nah
[07:49] <dward> everyone died
[07:49] <dup> Only slightly.
[07:49] <J2cloud> Well darn
[07:50] <J2cloud> Well, anyone around, I have an overscan issue on Ubuntu 12.10
[07:50] <dup> overscan?
[07:50] <J2cloud> And I'm not sure how to fix it. I can't see the edges of  my screen connected via HDMI
[07:51] <helmut_> hi
[07:52] <dup> Hi.
[07:52] <dward> @j2cloud is your resolution set to the correct mode
[07:52] <J2cloud> yes. 1920x1080
[07:53] <J2cloud> Normally that would be an option in a graphics card control panel, but that's not in Ubuntu, and It won't let me use the Catalyst Control (Graphics card control panel) because it doesn't think i have an AMD driver installed
[07:53] <J2cloud> But it is an AMD card
[07:55] <dup> !catalyst
[07:55] <dward> j2clouad, are you pretty familiar with linux yet may i ask?
[07:55] <dr_willis> ive seen that setting in the amd drivers on ubuntu.. but i found it easier to just turn off overscan on the tv/monitor
[07:55] <dward> j2cloud, might be hacky, but you could def fix it with xrandr
[07:56] <J2cloud> dr_willis: my monitor is actually a TV, and I have never been able to figure out why the computer controls are disabled
[07:56] <J2cloud> dward: I would say i'm still very amateur
[07:56] <dr_willis> my tv - had settings in ITS menus to disable overscan. but its a fairly high end samsung
[07:57] <dr_willis> i was having to use the ati contol panel thing to tweak the res befor id found that setting
[07:57] <dr_willis> now i dont need the ati config..
[07:57] <J2cloud> There's the thing
[07:57] <dr_willis> helps on other pcs' and os's ive been using also with this tv
[07:57] <J2cloud> i can't even use the ati config
[07:58] <J2cloud> It won;t let me run it because it says no card found or something
[07:58] <dward> j2cloud do you have the fglrx-amdcccle package?
[07:59] <J2cloud> Catalyst Control Center?
[07:59] <J2cloud> I believe that's what the package was called
[07:59] <J2cloud> Yes, but when i run it, i get this
[07:59] <J2cloud> There was a problem initializing Catalyst Control Center Linux edition.  It could be caused by the following.