[04:12] <kaffeend> ray_ with AA I entered a wrong password and still it times out... Any ideas?
[04:13] <jasmuz> yyc747: ubuntu is nice under PPP, im on dialup as we speak
[04:13] <musashi> its kubuntu-desktop
[04:13] <rene> Same message but kubuntu-desktop
[04:13] <musashi> if you cant find it you need to edit your sources.list
[04:13] <Xenguy> yyc747: pppconfig is worth a try also
[04:14] <cafuego_> yyc747: Just use 'pon' after running pppconfig
[04:14] <cafuego_> yyc747: if you have untimed calls, just make it dial at bootup
[04:14] <rob^> jrattner1, try the one from Breezy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kdebluetooth&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[04:14] <yyc747> cafuego_: is pppconfig installed by default?
[04:14] <cafuego_> yyc747: I think so, yes.
[04:14] <rob^> horay doesn't have it
[04:14] <Xenguy> yyc747: dpkg -l pppconfig
[04:15] <Scythe> is there a way to boot into a live system from the install dvd??
[04:15] <jrattner1> rob^, should i download it with synaptic
[04:15] <kaffeend> does anyone know of a game that runs fine on Ubuntu for amd64?
[04:15] <rene> rob, same message, but kubuntu-desktop
[04:15] <yyc747> Xenguy: well, I'm not at the computer in question right now, or in a place where I need to use dialup... but I will be soon
[04:15] <Scythe> kafeend frozen bubble??
[04:15] <kaffeend> with nVidia card, that is
[04:15] <rob^> jrattner1, you wont be able to
[04:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> ray_ i did install the official package i thought.  i installed that .bin
[04:15] <rob^> just download the .deb
[04:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> ray_ where do i get these "official" packages?
[04:15] <kaffeend> Scythe no offense but I kinda meant #D games
[04:15] <jrattner1> rob^, so download it manually and then how do i install it?
[04:15] <yyc747> cafuego_: can you add pon to the startup with rc.d-update?
[04:15] <dadio> kaffeend,  americas army game works, its in synaptic
[04:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> rob^ who are you talking to?
[04:16] <Scythe> it was a joke anyways kaff
[04:16] <rob^> jrattner1, dpkg -i package.deb
[04:16] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, i thought you said you got it from apt?
[04:16] <kaffeend> dadio I'm specifically having trouble with America's Army
[04:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> jrattner1 my old room mate is named jay wratten
[04:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> ray_ and i also installed the .bin too.
[04:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> neither seemed to work
[04:16] <rob^> BROKEN_LADDER, jrattner1
[04:16] <kaffeend> Scythe - I figured that ;)
[04:17] <Scythe> is there  a livedvd or livecd for ubuntu... need to do some recovery work on a windows system
[04:17] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, ok...there is a way to do this i promise
[04:17] <dadio> kaffeend,  I installed ubuntu with the i386 kernel and I run armyops with no problem
[04:17] <rene> rob^, It does not work. It gives me the message couldnt find package kubuntu-desktop
[04:17] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, do you still have the .bin file
[04:17] <kaffeend> dadio I have amd 64
[04:17] <rob^> rene, you need to enable the extra repositories
[04:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> lemme see
[04:17] <dadio> kaffeend,  so do I
[04:17] <rene> rob^, How do I do that
[04:17] <Snippy> heya
[04:17] <rob^> !repo
[04:17] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, rob^
[04:17] <Snippy> how can I determine my ethernet adress?
[04:17] <rob^> dam it
[04:17] <jrattner1> rob^, i dont get how to do that....when i click the link it brings me to a list of contenets
[04:17] <Scythe> rene, are you trying to install kde???
[04:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin
[04:18] <Snippy> please help me
[04:18] <Snippy> how can I determine my ethernet adress?
[04:18] <Scythe> just apt get kde
[04:18] <rene> YES
[04:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> Snippy ifconfig eth0
[04:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> Snippy go to whatismyip.com
[04:18] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, ok do you have multiverse in your sources.list
[04:18] <rob^> wiki.ubuntu.com/ExtraRepositories
[04:18] <musashi> suppository?
[04:18] <Snippy> nono
[04:18] <kaffeend> dadio you said you have the i386 kernel - I don't have it - I have the amd64 kernel
[04:18] <Snippy> not the ip
[04:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> ray_ surely
[04:18] <Scythe> rene the command is sudo apt-get install kde
[04:18] <Scythe> that worked for me
[04:18] <rene> Ok , I will try
[04:18] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, so do an  apt-get install java-package
[04:18] <bimberi> Snippy: ifconfig (look for HWaddr)
[04:18] <MrThou> sigh
[04:18] <Snippy> Ethernet addresses are 48-bit addresses which are hardwired into the electronics of the Ethernet board of the network device. The address is usually written in hexadecimal form (e.g. 006097981E6B). The first three (leftmost) bytes of the address are unique to the manufacturer of the board. The last three (rightmost) bytes are assigned by the manufacturer. All six bytes uniquely identify the network device.
[04:19] <jrattner1> rob^, any thoughts?
[04:19] <rob^> rene, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:19] <dadio> kaffeend,  I have tried both, I have almost everything working with the i386 kernel including the nvidia driver and armyops
[04:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> ray_ this is freakin HUGE!
[04:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> like half a meg!
[04:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> i only have a 20mb hd
[04:19] <rob^> jrattner1, download the .deb from that site, open up a terminal, type: dpkg -i package.deb
[04:19] <kaffeend> dadio so I should install the 32 bit Ubuntu?
[04:19] <Snippy> thanks bimberi
[04:19] <MrThou> ata1: command 0xa0 timeout, stat 0xa0 host_stat0x21 --> frozen.  Wow, Im just not ment to use linux
[04:19] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, it shouldnt be
[04:19] <dadio> kaffeend,  it works for me
[04:19] <bimberi> Snippy: yw :)
[04:20] <rob^> kafeine, most likely
[04:20] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: I will mail you a 500mb hard drive if you will be quiet
[04:20] <ray_> BROKEN_LADDER, 20 megs!
[04:20] <kaffeend> MrThou same here bud - you're not alone
[04:20] <rene> Message Kde Not available
[04:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> ls: /usr/lib/j*: No such file or directory
[04:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy
[04:20] <jrattner1> rob^, there is no deb package, just a link to add to sources
[04:20] <rob^> jrattner1, http://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kdebluetooth/kdebluetooth_0.99+1.0beta1-2ubuntu1_i386.deb
[04:20] <MrThou> Kaffeend: Looks like we suck ;P
[04:20] <rob^> its there
[04:20] <rob^> you have to click a few links to get it
[04:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> oh...no i was wrong.  it's 250gb
[04:20] <yyc747> cafuego_: can pon be added to startup like everything else (rc.d-update)?
[04:21] <kaffeend> so I need to run a 32 bit OS on my 64 bit machine? Why did I move from Windows?
[04:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> beos could run on a 100mb hd
[04:21] <jrattner1> ok
[04:21] <Syco54645> is there an equiveland of fruityloops for linux?
[04:21] <rob^> kaffeend, both will run
[04:21] <jasmuz> kaffeend: because win blows
[04:21] <kaffeend> MrThou but I think we are in the majority - that's why windows users rarely move
[04:21] <benplaut> Syco: peppermints
[04:21] <Syco54645> BROKEN_LADDER, check out zeta os... its the new beos
[04:22] <Syco54645> benplaut, thanks
[04:22] <kaffeend> jasmuz maybe for you but at least it plays my games without having to write scripts for them
[04:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> for a great majority of OS operations, 64-bitness doesn't make sense.  it's just extra decoding time
[04:22] <rene> I Have not been able to install KDE desktop on my Ubuntu, Help please
[04:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 i'm well aware of it.
[04:22] <rob^> kaffeend, you would obviously use the AMD 64 version on an AMD 64 machine
[04:22] <Syco54645> BROKEN_LADDER, have you tried it yet?
[04:22] <benplaut> Syco: i was kidding
[04:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 but it still isn't multi-user, nor does it have any serious home recording apps. :(
[04:22] <HrdwrBoB> rene: get kubuntu then
[04:22] <jasmuz> kaffeend: dont whine over games, if you are a true computer user you wont mind much
[04:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 nah, but i'll buy it once it gets multi-user and some decent home recording multi-tracking stuff like Ardour
[04:22] <kaffeend> rob^ dadio says I don't
[04:22] <Syco54645> benplaut, yes i know.  i knew of one and that wasnt the name
[04:23] <rene> There is no other Way?
[04:23] <MrThou> Jasmuz: WTF is a 'true computer user"?
[04:23] <HrdwrBoB> jasmuz: don't be so obtuse
[04:23] <dadio> the amd64 runs faster because it has twice as many memory pipes between the cpu and the memory
[04:23] <kaffeend> jasmuz sorry?
[04:23] <cafuego_> yyc747: /etc/init.d/ppp handles that, but is is deprecated. You cna add ppp0 to /etc/network/interfaces instead :-)
[04:23] <rob^> dadio, is wrong, both version will work on an AMD 64 machine
[04:23] <rene> Hrdwrbob, there is no other way?
[04:23] <Syco54645> BROKEN_LADDER, i downloaded it a whilst back to try it out to see if i wanted to buy it, never got to trying it yet
[04:23] <jasmuz> nevermind.
[04:23] <arpwatch> I don't suppose anyone could help me with sending mail via postfix?
[04:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> downloaded it?!
[04:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 what are you talking about?
[04:23] <HrdwrBoB> rene: you can get the package kde-base I think
[04:23] <kaffeend> jasmuz I truly am using a computer right now
[04:23] <MrThou> But none the less, anyone have any idea what "ata1: command 0xa0 timeout, stat 0xa0 host_stat0x21" would mean, any why it freezes my install?
[04:23] <HrdwrBoB> rene: try #kubuntu
[04:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 you mean beos max or whatever?
[04:24] <dadio> I never said the 64bit version wouldnt work I said armyops wont work with the 64bit version
[04:24] <HrdwrBoB> MrThou: it means there is  hardware problem
[04:24] <musashi> i truly am a computer user
[04:24] <kaffeend> jasmuz and I do mind that much right now
[04:24] <Syco54645> BROKEN_LADDER, yeah isnt that supposed to be like zeta?
[04:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 well, zeta has a vastly improved set of drivers and such
[04:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 zeta has undergone significant changes.
[04:24] <MrThou> HrdwrBoB.  Do we know what kind of hardware problem? Or, should I try again, and check out the lines above to get an idea?
[04:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 beos will probably only run on 4-year old hardware
[04:25] <arpwatch> Anyone know why email would be queueing up and not sending in postfix on a new install of ubuntu?
[04:25] <Syco54645> BROKEN_LADDER, i really liked beos, but that was just me
[04:25] <kaffeend> dadio ok, but someone else was telling me how well it runs on his 64 bit system
[04:25] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 i used beos for four years
[04:25] <HrdwrBoB> MrThou: hard drive
[04:25] <HrdwrBoB> MrThou: it looks like
[04:25] <BROKEN_LADDER> beos was the best os ever
[04:25] <Syco54645> does anyone know what the animal crossing clone for linux is called
[04:25] <Syco54645> BROKEN_LADDER, yeah how is the open beos coming along?
[04:25] <MrThou> HrdwrBoB: I must disagree with that diagnosis... Just based on the fact my HDD is two months old, and working fine :P
[04:25] <jrattner1> rob^, it had dependency problems how do i remove it?
[04:25] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 uhh..not all that great.  haiku is what it's called
[04:25] <BROKEN_LADDER> you can google it
[04:26] <Kanbeki> Quake 3 Has lagged audio with aRTSd and no audio with polypaudiod, any suggestions? and I've read the howto on the forums
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> MrThou: ...
[04:26] <rob^> jrattner1, apt-get remove kdebluetooth
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> MrThou: I'm diagnosing the error message
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> not your hardware
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> it could be a problem with the driver
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> your hard drive could be dying
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> or it could be a controller problem
[04:26] <dadio> kaffeend,  if someone got armyops running on a amd64 bit kernel my hat is off to them
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> or a problem with your CDROM
[04:26] <lamont> arpwatch: I expect that /var/log/mail.log would have an idea...
[04:26] <arpwatch> k
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> dadio: kernel yes, system no
[04:26] <MrThou> HrdwrBoB: Well, it appears Linux still isnt user friendly enough for me.  I shall try again in a year, Thansk
[04:26] <Syco54645> BROKEN_LADDER, to my knowlege, they zeta was using parts of haiku
[04:26] <MrThou> Thansk
[04:26] <MrThou> Dammit.. THANKS
[04:27] <nada> hello.  i have ubuntu hoary with an asus p4p800-e with onboard digital audio.  i can get vlc to output to the s/pdif device, but not xine.  anyone know where i can get config information?
[04:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 no..that's not really true.
[04:27] <rob^> jrattner1, the other package may work, if not build it from source. Breezy is due to be released soon, which will have it included
[04:27] <kaffeend> dadio I can run it, but when I go to enter my username and password in-game it times out
[04:27] <jrattner1> rob^, i wish it worked damn
[04:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 they used a bit of code from some app, but not the os itself i don't think.
[04:27] <Syco54645> BROKEN_LADDER, i thought that the yellow cab site said that
[04:27] <rene_> HOW do I Install KDE on my ubuntu 5.04 for intel systems
[04:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> Syco54645 i'm referring to what they said on their site
[04:27] <kaffeend> dadio but it starts up just fine
[04:27] <jrattner1> rob^, when is breezy do out?
[04:27] <arpwatch> lamont, it just says the same thing mailq said, "Connection timed out" on all attempts
[04:27] <Syco54645> BROKEN_LADDER, yeah that is what i mean.  like the shutdown thing
[04:27] <cafuego_> rene_: install "kubuntu-desktop"
[04:27] <lee> hello all
[04:27] <arpwatch> I can send mail perfectly fine locally though
[04:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know what i have to install to have java complete and on my system?
[04:27] <rene_> Did not work
[04:27] <dadio> kaffeend,  you are running version 2.3 correct?
[04:27] <rob^> rene_, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:27] <lamont> arpwatch: that sounds like firewall issues
[04:28] <kaffeend> dadio yes
[04:28] <rob^> rene_, then do: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:28] <lee> does anybody know what gamin/gam_server is, why it keeps jumping to 100% cpu usage, if it's essential to GNOME or not, and if not, how the bloody hell do you turn it off?
[04:28] <cafuego_> yyc747: Have a look at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1033
[04:28] <arpwatch> I see, I didn't think I would need to have port 25 open to send mail out though?
[04:28] <dadio> kaffeend,  have you tried disabling your firewall?
[04:28] <nada> BROKEN_LADDER: installed java:
[04:28] <nada> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:28] <nada> add these to /etc/apt/sources.list:
[04:28] <nada> ## Backports
[04:28] <nada> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[04:28] <nada> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:28] <Syco54645> BROKEN_LADDER, there is the sun java on the sun site, that is always what i used in other distros
[04:28] <nada> run:
[04:28] <nada> sudo apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.5
[04:28] <cafuego_> nada: Do not paste here.
[04:28] <MrThou> well. Im off again. I may be back later.
[04:28] <kaffeend> dadio no but I thought that might be it - but I don't know how to disable it
[04:28] <rob^> nada, dont advise people to use the unofficial backports
[04:29] <rob^> !backports
[04:29] <ubotu> methinks backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[04:29] <kaffeend> dadio I'm a week old n00b
[04:29] <cafuego_> !ppp_on_boot is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1033
[04:29] <ubotu> okay, cafuego_
[04:29] <dadio> kaffeend,  look under the gnome menu for firestarter thats shoud be the firewall
[04:29] <jrattner1> rob^,  when does the new version set for release?
[04:29] <arpwatch> lamont, I'm not sure what ubuntu uses for the default firewall?  I've searched around the system/applications at the top with no luck
[04:29] <rob^> jrattner1, about a months time
[04:30] <dadio> kaffeend,  its under system tools
[04:30] <lamont> arpwatch: I meant upstream firewall
[04:30] <lamont> there isn't a firewall on the stock ubuntu, there's just nothing listening on reachable ports
[04:30] <jrattner1> hmm thats when i go to school
[04:30] <rob^> jrattner1, sorry, I ment 2 months time
[04:30] <kaffeend> dadio I can't find it there...
[04:31] <jrattner1> rob^, you ever use bluetooth from
[04:31] <jrattner1>  ubuntu
[04:31] <dadio> kaffeend,  darn thats where it is on my gnome menu
[04:31] <arpwatch> lamont, I haven't used linux in 7 years(didn't know much then either), care to toss me a howto or some more info?
[04:31] <flodine> help guys getting a xopendisplay not found in lx11
[04:31] <rob^> jrattner1, no
[04:31] <flodine> anyone
[04:31] <cafuego_> flodine: xlibs-dev
[04:32] <jrattner1> hmm
[04:32] <cafuego_> flodine: what are you trying to compile anyway?
[04:32] <jrattner1> damn
[04:32] <flodine> fluxter
[04:32] <kaffeend> dadio I have Network Tools
[04:33] <dadio> kaffeend,  on mine its between file browser and floppy formatter on the systems tools menu
[04:33] <kaffeend> dadio no gap on mine
[04:34] <kaffeend> dadio synaptic time
[04:34] <adman_> hello, how do you change bin to .deb
[04:34] <dadio> kaffeend,  where did you install armyops?
[04:35] <kaffeend> dadio to the desktop
[04:35] <Kanbeki> Does anyone know how to mount MDF images
[04:35] <linfreak> i am using fluxbox and i saw a pic of a menu like thing on a screenshot of someone elses appilications, it looked kind of like the macOSx toolbar of the most used applications, any idea how to get it?
[04:35] <dadio> kaffeend,  try putting it in /usr/local/bin and installing it from there.  you may be having permissions problems
[04:35] <seth_k> Kanbeki, you can't, but you can use http://developer.berlios.de/projects/mdf2iso/
[04:35] <flodine> cafuego getting -bash:grcat: command not found
[04:35] <seth_k> Kanbeki, that will convert mdf to iso
[04:36] <benplaut> adman_: you can't...
[04:36] <Kanbeki> Thank You.
[04:36] <flodine> anyone
[04:36] <flodine> seen that
[04:36] <flodine> while compl
[04:37] <Syco54645> question all
[04:37] <flodine> cafuego getting -bash:grcat: command not found
[04:37] <Syco54645> how well can a game be displayed via vnc
[04:37] <Syco54645> i have never tried it
[04:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> nada that linked saved the day.  thanks
[04:37] <direwolf> good question
[04:38] <glick> hey when i get junk mail in evolution i mark it as junk and it disappears, doesnt evolution try to learn from what i mark as junk and starts filtering it automatically?
[04:38] <flodine> help guys having problem doing make when installing tar file
[04:38] <Syco54645> because i am beginning to do video stuff again and it would be really nice to have a windows box here for me to do the work on with my linux machine as the front end and the back end an old p3 with vnc server on it
[04:38] <kaffeend> dadio well, I installed Firestarter and stopped firewall, but that didn't make any diff so now I'll try moving it like you said.
[04:38] <Syco54645> flodine, what do you mean?
[04:39] <guardianx> can someone help me locate a build in vid card for a compaq sr1010z ?
[04:39] <adman_> benplaut: Then where do you download the deb version of java 1.5?
[04:39] <kaffeend> dadio except I don't have /usr/local/bin
[04:39] <flodine> Syco54645 i cant do make
[04:39] <guardianx> can someone help me locate ad linux driver  a  build in vid card for a compaq sr1010z ?
[04:39] <Syco54645> flodine, a make on what?
[04:39] <flodine> Syco54645 on a tar file
[04:39] <dadio> kaffeend,  I always put my apps there first, that way I always know where they are, and there are no permissions problems
[04:39] <youngcoder> gaurdianx,  did you google it?
[04:39] <Syco54645> flodine, did you untar and ungz/bz it?
[04:40] <guardianx> i dont know the keyword to goggle
[04:40] <flodine> yes
[04:40] <Syco54645> flodine, did you type ./configure?
[04:40] <flodine> yes
[04:40] <Syco54645> flodine, did it complete successfully?
[04:40] <flodine> yes
[04:40] <youngcoder> gaurdianx, type sr1010z linux driver build and see what u find
[04:40] <flodine> getting -bash:grcat: command not found
[04:40] <Syco54645> flodine, what package and did you read the README?  some packages use scons
[04:40] <kaffeend> dadio there is no /local in my /usr dir
[04:40] <dadio> kaffeend,  really?
[04:41] <MrThou> HrdwrBoB: Does the line "Elevator: using anticipatory as a default io scheduler" mean anything?   As it the line above, and hangs on for a few second before giving me the second error.  Also, nothing else looks all the terrible.
[04:41] <kaffeend> dadio really
[04:41] <MrThou> As in, no errors
[04:41] <Syco54645> flodine, then apt-get install grcat
[04:41] <dadio> never heard of that, anyway I have to leave, good luck to you
[04:41] <kaffeend> dadio thanks
[04:41] <HrdwrBoB> MrThou: not really
[04:41] <guardianx> can someone help me locate ad linux driver  a  build in vid card for a compaq sr1010z ?
[04:41] <Syco54645> flodine, nvm not inm the packages.  i would suggest reading the readme
[04:42] <kaffeend> well that was helpful
[04:42] <MrThou> I have a dream, and that dream is someday. I'll get a linux installation that works.
[04:42] <youngcoder> lol
[04:42] <kaffeend> MrThou can we dream together?
[04:42] <flodine> Syco54645 apt cant find it
[04:42] <ray_> kaffeend, you did something to terribly mess up your system because /local is there by default
[04:42] <MrThou> Kaffeend: Are you a hot naked chick?
[04:42] <Syco54645> flodine, i know i just said that
[04:42] <ray_> My linux works flawless
[04:43] <Syco54645> flodine, read the faqs and the readme
[04:43] <kaffeend> MrThou in your dreams :P
[04:43] <youngcoder> kaffeend you need to re-install
[04:43] <rob^> MrThou, try: sudo apt-get hot-babe
[04:43] <MrThou> Kaffeend: Then we can dream togeather ;)
[04:43] <rob^> MrThou, try: sudo apt-get install hot-babe
[04:43] <ray_> yeah kafeend reinstall
[04:43] <Syco54645> MrThou, my dream is that someday i wont crash windows just when i move shit around
[04:43] <kaffeend> ray_ I haven't done anything because I don't know what to do
[04:43] <ray_> kafeine, its in there by default
[04:43] <ray_> kaffeend, you need to reinstall
[04:43] <MrThou> Syco54645: I'd ask if we could trade machines. But mine is still almost top of the line
[04:43] <cafuego_> dude
[04:44] <guardianx> how do i install an .exe in linux??
[04:44] <ray_> MrThou, what do you have?
[04:44] <jtan325> guardianx, you don't....
[04:44] <rob^> guardianx, use wine
[04:44] <kaffeend> MrThou you can play with your incredibly easy and straightforward Ubuntu distro while I oil you up with my perfect breasts!
[04:44] <ray_> guardianx, are you kidding?
[04:44] <MrThou> Ray_: p4 3.0ghz, 1024 ram, radion 9800pro, audigy 2 sound card.
[04:44] <youngcoder> ray_, lol
[04:44] <Syco54645> MrThou, no i crash any windows... i just did today on campus even.  it sucks at work because i will be updating the webserver and bam
[04:44] <Syco54645> dead
[04:45] <kaffeend> ray_ I know, but for some reason I can't boot my windows xp cd
[04:45] <jtan325> nice Syco54645
[04:45] <guardianx> i meant to say how do i extra a .exe file
[04:45] <guardianx> extract
[04:45] <benplaut> you can't...
[04:45] <rob^> exescope
[04:45] <ray_> MrThou, ooooo i got p4 3.5 ghz
[04:45] <rob^> can
[04:45] <ray_> kaffeend, no i mean reinstall ubuntu
[04:45] <deltab> guardianx: a self-extracting zip file?
[04:45] <kaffeend> ray_ um, I don't think so
[04:45] <Seabook> Hello.
[04:45] <MrThou> Syco54645: Cool.  I generally dont crash windows.  Nor get spyware/viri.  But I generally know what I'm doing.  Im just a slow learner.  I learn by doing. and if I cant install, i cant do ;P
[04:46] <ray_> kaffeend, you not being able to boot xp is a hardware problem
[04:46] <deltab> guardianx: try unzip
[04:46] <kaffeend> ray_ it's been 1 hellova week so far
[04:46] <ray_> kaffeend, try mepis
[04:46] <MrThou> Raye_: Nice.  Im poor, and honestly, the 3.0 is all I really need ;)
[04:46] <rob^> those people having trouble install Ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[04:46] <guardianx> how do i unzip in ubuntu?
[04:46] <kaffeend> ray_ no more distro tryouts for me
[04:46] <guardianx> can i install winrar in  ubuntu?
[04:46] <ray_> kaffeend, yeah go back to winblows
[04:46] <rob^> guardianx, yes
[04:46] <MrThou> guardianx: Yup
[04:46] <ray_> guardianx, NO
[04:47] <Seabook> It's possible to browse the ubuntu package repositories from the web browser, right? What's the address again? I forgot.
[04:47] <ray_> why would you want winrar?
[04:47] <rob^> unzip, unzips .zip files in Linux
[04:47] <benplaut> OK, 2 yes's and one no
[04:47] <kaffeend> ray_ if this distro won't work I'm reformatting the HDD and going back to windows I'm afraid
[04:47] <bimberi> Seabook: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:47] <flodine> what does it mean ewhen it says......make: *** [all-recursive]  Broken pipe
[04:47] <rob^> packages.ubuntu.com
[04:47] <^thehatsrule^> guardianx: yes thru wine, use unrar/p7zip if not
[04:47] <Seabook> thanks. :)
[04:47] <ray_> get unrar
[04:47] <ray_> why would you run windows apps in linux?
[04:47] <pavan> Hi guys , any idea abt realpllayer 10 on latest ubuntu..I loaded it but it just don't work.
[04:48] <guardianx> how do i use wine in ubuntu?
[04:48] <MrThou> ray_: Possably becuase winrar is the best zipping program for windows.  Says it has a linux install too.
[04:48] <kaffeend> ray_ I'm not
[04:48] <kaffeend> ray_ sorry I thought that was for me
[04:48] <ray_> MrThou, oh it has a linux install!!!!
[04:48] <ray_> in that case
[04:48] <adman_> MrThou: you hit the nail right on the head, I heard Greeeeaaat things about linux especially ubuntu. Basic things seem to require an MSc degree. Cant download and install simple apps
[04:48] <flodine> what does it mean when it says......make: *** [all-recursive]  Broken pipe?
[04:49] <helfire> why's gaim at 1.1.4 when 1.4.0 is out?
[04:49] <kaffeend> adman_ you said it right there!
[04:49] <rob^> adman_, its just different to Windows, no need for the MSc
[04:49] <ray_> what????? this confuses the hell out of me ....i have found that installing apps is ten times easier in linux
[04:49] <glick> what does evolution do with mail i mark as junk?
[04:49] <kaffeend> ray_ how???
[04:49] <youngcoder> adman_, i find apps easier to install in linux by far
[04:49] <adman_> what?
[04:50] <youngcoder> if you read up on linux it is better
[04:50] <deltab> flodine: I think it means that make was trying to write through a pipe to another process, but that process ended without reading everythign make had to say
[04:50] <rob^> "apt-get install app" is much easier then installing apps in Windows
[04:50] <f_newton> is there a doc that explains the command line configuration tools in ubuntu?
[04:50] <pavan> Hi , anyone can help me in runing realplayer on ubuntu5.04
[04:50] <kaffeend> ray_ in windows I click install and it installs...
[04:50] <ray_> yes installing apps is a breeze
[04:50] <youngcoder> but if you just install it and start messing with stuff you wont get anywhere
[04:50] <adman_> trying to install java, I got in this channel 6 diffent methods within the last 2 hours and none og them worked.
[04:50] <pavan> I installed but it doesnot start
[04:50] <rob^> kaffeend, but you have to find and download it first, in Linux you dont
[04:50] <MrThou> youngcoder/ray_: Im rather confused by that statement.  Windows > double click.  linux > "apt-get install app"  Sorry dudes. Windows wins for ease ;)
[04:50] <ray_> kaffeend, i think you should use windows then
[04:51] <kaffeend> ray_ you want me to leave so soon?  Get a good combo of apps to do the job.
[04:52] <f_newton> only kiddie scripters do it in macro or java
[04:53] <rob^> ok guys, lets stop feeding the trolls
[04:53] <MrThou> Guardianx: Sorry man, you be incorrect.  A ton of software comes packed with spyware.  You have to read alot of EULAs and ToSs to see that :P
[04:53] <monsterror> Can someone tell me how to get GAIM to Direct Connect? Everytime I try, it says connection failed.
[04:53] <Fizile> hey i dont have spyware and i dont have any combinations of applications to use...
[04:53] <kaffeend> ray_ windows blows for sure - but is this the alternative? My mate is trying to get me onto mac...
[04:53] <bimberi> #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place for this
[04:53] <guardianx> mrthou- i dont use tons of apps in windows.
[04:53] <ray_> adman_, yes but with linux it is not an issue at all
[04:53] <DrCert> mac is a great desktop
[04:53] <f_newton> monsterror, i dont know what your gaim configuration is but I dont have problems
[04:53] <Seabook> Mac is *nix now anyway...
[04:53] <ray_> long live LINUX
[04:53] <MrThou> Guardianx: I do.  So read alot of EULA ;)
[04:53] <hubsi> how can i search a file over console!?
[04:54] <f_newton> explain please monsterror
[04:54] <kaffeend> anyway, I don't want to have to choose which OS to use - I want both
[04:54] <ray_> i like free operating systems
[04:54] <helfire> hubsi: find / -name searchqueryhere
[04:54] <f_newton> mac is bsd like yes
[04:54] <deltab> hubsi: grep someword filename
[04:54] <guardianx> mrthou suck to be you . so u are better off using linux or real eula
[04:54] <bimberi> hubsi: sudo find / -name <filename>
[04:54] <deltab> hubsi: search within a file, or for a file?
[04:54] <monsterror> I'll right click on a name, and choose Direct Connection, then it asks them, and they accept. THen it says it failed. It'll do the same thing if they ask me too
[04:54] <MrThou> Guardianx: I would use linux, if I could ever get a distro to install properly ;)
[04:55] <f_newton> ah thats either your firewall or theiers
[04:55] <f_newton> or both
[04:55] <hubsi> i'm searching a file.. i don't know where it is on my hdd
[04:55] <adman_> ray_: explain how to install this file in one double click>>>>jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin
[04:55] <deltab> hubsi: searching for a file
[04:55] <guardianx> mrthou - agree with u there linux kinda sucks in that department
[04:55] <kaffeend> so how can I install Ubuntu again and get windows on the same drive?
[04:55] <deltab> hubsi: use find
[04:55] <monsterror> Unless Linux comes with one, I dont have a firewall. And I've never had trouble conencting to them before
[04:55] <hubsi> i do
[04:55] <snippy_> how to get ethernet address again ?
[04:55] <f_newton> adman_, thats a bin file... you cant
[04:55] <ray_> adman_, just use windows and leave me alone
[04:55] <deltab> hubsi: do you know the file's name?
[04:56] <bimberi> hubsi: alternatively - find / -name "*<part-of-filename>*"
[04:56] <ray_> MrThou, ubuntu didnt install properly
[04:56] <f_newton> ray_, sounds like good advice to me
[04:56] <hubsi> thanks :D
[04:56] <rob^> kaffeend, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[04:56] <kaffeend> rob^ thanks
[04:56] <ray_> MrThou, ubuntu didnt install properly?
[04:56] <MrThou> Ray_: It wont install.
[04:56] <snippy_> please help, I need to know my ethernet address
[04:56] <ray_> MrThou, at all.....what does it tell you
[04:56] <bimberi> hubsi: oops - forgot the "sudo" in front (otherwise lots of permission errors)
[04:57] <monsterror> snippy, ifconfig to see your internal IP
[04:57] <adman_> I was just told in this forum by an expert that i can. What is with the disinformation
[04:57] <hubsi> hehe
[04:57] <hubsi> no problem :D
[04:57] <Fizile> snippy_, your ip?
[04:58] <MrThou> ray_: Last line: "ata1: Command 0xa0 timeout, stat 0xa0 host_stat 0x21"  then it freezes nicely
[04:58] <snippy_> no the ethernet address
[04:58] <snippy_> hexadezimal
[04:58] <deltab> snippy_: run "ip link" or "ifconfig"
[04:58] <ray_> alright what you guys have to understand that is to use linux you have to have at least SOME knowledge of computers in general
[04:58] <hubsi> can i install something with "cedega" ...
[04:58] <ray_> MrThou, did you download then burn it?
[04:58] <bimberi> !cedega
[04:58] <ubotu> methinks cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[04:58] <guardianx> after i install the file unrar into ubunto . how do i use it ??
[04:59] <MrThou> Ray_: I did.
[04:59] <ray_> MrThou, the disk and data is probly corrupt
[04:59] <MrThou> ray_: What kind of knowledge of computers?
[04:59] <Fizile> !crack
[04:59] <ubotu> The primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.
[04:59] <ray_> MrThou, i had to download mine twice
[04:59] <MrThou> Im not looking forwards to a 2.8gig download again ;P
[04:59] <youngcoder> gaurdianx, what type of file is it?
[05:00] <ray_> MrThou, 2.8 gig?  for ubuntu?
[05:00] <guardianx> after i install the file unrar into ubunto . how do i use it ??
[05:00] <deacon> Anybody here familiar with modifying thier ACPI DSDT file?
[05:00] <MrThou> ray_: dvd install.
[05:00] <Fizile> ubuntu is less than 700mb yeah?
[05:00] <ray_> MrThou, i would just get the cd version it is all you need
[05:00] <bimberi> Fizile: yes - installs from a single CD
[05:00] <helfire> any guide for getting ati 3d accel workign?
[05:01] <MrThou> ray_: care to mail me a cd?
[05:01] <ray_> helfire, i know
[05:01] <jrattner1> does ubuntu keep SMTP open by default'?
[05:01] <ray_> helfire, sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[05:01] <helfire> ray: thanx
[05:01] <Fizile> i had ubuntu mail me like 15 free cd's and im converting my friends and others...
[05:01] <Fizile> becaus its mad good heh
[05:02] <youngcoder> Fizile, same here
[05:02] <ray_> helfire, then edit xorg.conf and where it says ati write fglrx
[05:02] <deltab> Fizile: how long do they take to arrive?
[05:02] <MrThou> Fizile: the only use I'd have for those CDs is maybe breakfast.
[05:02] <guardianx> how do i extract an .exe file? i think it is an executable .zip file.
[05:02] <PurpleMotion> I guess I'm gonna try partition magic
[05:02] <Fizile> deltab, like i forget i had ordered them by the time i installed
[05:02] <helfire> ray_: k
[05:02] <PurpleMotion> since parted has failed me
[05:02] <Fizile> MrThou, you may want to look for a better diet
[05:02] <youngcoder> deltab, 4-8 weeks depending on where you live
[05:02] <adman_> MrThou: check this>> I was told to do this>>> It didn't work because some guy told me to remove the spaces in the command>> didn't work either
[05:02] <ray_> guardianx, and exe is a windows file...executable not A ror
[05:03] <ray_> guardianx, and exe is a windows file...executable not A rar
[05:03] <kaffeend> rob^ that wiki link was no good I'm afraid - only deals with systems that already have windows installed
[05:03] <ray_> guardianx, and exe is a windows file...executable not A rar
[05:03] <ray_> oops
[05:03] <rob^> kaffeend, did you read the note at the top?
[05:03] <ray_> guardianx, what exe program are you trying to install
[05:03] <deltab> ray_: some are self-extracting
[05:03] <kaffeend> rob^ to install windows first?
[05:03] <rob^> kafeine, yes
[05:03] <ray_> deltab, exe is a WINDOWS file
[05:03] <Syco54645> ray_, self extracting rars and zips are .exe files and you can pass them to rar and unzip
[05:04] <kaffeend> hmmm
[05:04] <ray_> YES IN WINDOWS
[05:04] <guardianx> i'm trying to install partypoker on ubuntu
[05:04] <Syco54645> ray_, and in linux
[05:04] <rob^> kafeine, just leave at least say 10gig or more for Linux when you install Windows
[05:04] <ray_> Syco54645, name one exe file you can run in linux
[05:04] <kaffeend> rob^ yes but I tried that already - I think I need to format the drive first tho
[05:04] <deacon> Anybody here familiar with modifying thier ACPI DSDT file?  I'm having an issue with a particularly sticky error that keps coming up when I try and compile my .asl file
[05:04] <ray_> Syco54645, without wine
[05:04] <flodine> can someone help me get my libc6 updated
[05:04] <Syco54645> ray_, if it is a self extracting rar, then it is an exe and all you do is say rar e foo.rar
[05:05] <Syco54645> ray_, i just did it not too long ago, feel free to try it
[05:05] <ray_> Syco54645, like what tho
[05:05] <kaffeend> rob^ ok
[05:05] <Syco54645> ray_, i dunno get on windows and make a self extracting rar and it is an exe and you can pass it
[05:05] <rob^> kaffeend, you have two choices, if windows is already installed, follow that guide. if windows is not installed, install if first and when partitioning duing windows installation leave 10gig for Linux (ie leave 10gig free space)
[05:05] <kaffeend> is there a way to format the HDD from inside Ubuntu?
[05:05] <psurani> guys, my beep media player hangs, while playing mp3, why ?
[05:05] <rob^> gqparted
[05:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> hopefully not the hd that you have it installed upon.
[05:06] <crimsun> psurani: are you using the esound output?
[05:06] <ray_> Syco54645, oh i see.....but he isnt just extracting an archive he wants to install a windows app
[05:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> psurani you might try avoiding the problem with xmms
[05:06] <psurani> crimsun, , how to check that ?
[05:06] <kaffeend> rob^ is that for me? gqparted?
[05:06] <crimsun> psurani: preferences> output
[05:06] <helfire> ray_: you rock, 3d accel works :)
[05:06] <eL_DemeNteGT> ubuntu en espaol cual es canal
[05:06] <kaffeend> !gqparted
[05:06] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, kaffeend
[05:06] <rob^> yeah, once you are installed Ubuntu has a graphical partitioning tool
[05:06] <bimberi> !es
[05:06] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:06] <psurani> it hang, i cannt even cancel it, how to kil it ?
[05:07] <ray_> helfire, no prop
[05:07] <ray_> helfire, no prob*
[05:07] <eL_DemeNteGT> ubuntu-es
[05:07] <flodine> is ubuntu files old
[05:07] <Syco54645> ray_, ah ok well then that is a different story, but you were saying an exe is a windows executable, i was just letting people know that they sometimes arnt (in the case of a zip or rar that self extracts, they can still be extracted because the programs will ignore the exe part)
[05:07] <MrThou> But what do you think the odds are that once I get past this error, Ubuntu will agree with my x300 PCI/E vid card?
[05:07] <Fizile> it will.
[05:07] <Fizile> probably...
[05:07] <guardianx> how do i install wine in unbutu??
[05:07] <HrdwrBoB> MrThou: I have a friend whoi uses an X300
[05:07] <eL_DemeNteGT> kien me dice el canal de ubuntu espaol
[05:07] <Syco54645> guardianx, apt-get install wine
[05:07] <helfire> ray_: is flgrx a ubuntu package or in deb repository too?
[05:07] <rob^> guardianx, sudo apt-get install wine
[05:08] <ray_> guardianx, sudo apt-get install wine
[05:08] <psurani> hey i selected esound now, is that okkay ??
[05:08] <alindeman> eL_DemeNteGT: #ubuntu-es
[05:08] <Syco54645> i think the topic of this place needs to be changed how to install stuff is apt-get install package
[05:08] <eL_DemeNteGT> grax
[05:08] <Syco54645> that is the most common question that i see
[05:08] <rob^> psurani, select alsa instead
[05:08] <psurani> ahh ok
[05:08] <youngcoder> Syco54645, i agree
[05:08] <ray_> helfire, well debian doesnt have xorg yet i dont think and fglrx is an xorg driver
[05:08] <kaffeend> rob^ what should I do with "gqparted" please?
[05:08] <helfire> ray_: ahh yes, forgot :)
[05:08] <rob^> Syco54645, yep, Breezy will include the FAQ Guide that answers all these type questions
[05:09] <rob^> kaffeend, don't worry about it
[05:09] <n4cht> hey, anyone using a compaq presario?  i have a few hardware questions.
[05:09] <rob^> kaffeend, you most likely wont need it
[05:09] <psurani> hey it says, pls select correct output plugin, when i selected alsa
[05:09] <rob^> kaffeend, install windows, leave free space (unpartitioned) during install, then install Ubuntu into that free space
[05:09] <n4cht> sometimes it won't even boot
[05:10] <n4cht> and windows bsod's on install.
[05:10] <psurani> actually i had even changed the op device
[05:10] <kaffeend> rob^ I think I may need it as when I try to boot the winxp cd it keeps getting stuck after "windows is checking your hardware..."
[05:10] <f_newton> n4cht, you've got some hardware issues
[05:10] <rob^> kaffeend, follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[05:10] <n4cht> i _think_ it might have a lot to do with the fact that it was previously on a network that was passing around a bios killing virus of some sort.
[05:10] <Micksa> bluddy hell
[05:10] <guardianx> when i try to install wine i get this error   Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:11] <guardianx> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:11] <guardianx> is only available from another source
[05:11] <guardianx> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[05:11] <rob^> kaffeend, under "Windows XP with NTFS or Any Other NTFS partition"
[05:11] <Micksa> how much luck would i have porting the breezy kernel to hoary?
[05:11] <Micksa> I could try it I guess huh
[05:11] <Micksa> bleagh
[05:11] <crimsun> why "port" it?
[05:11] <crimsun> at worst you'd have to grab l-i and l-r-m (and possibly l-h)
[05:11] <vader1102> kaffend: I was having that in a customer pc, it was the heatsink fan on backwards, causing the CPU to overheat
[05:12] <psurani> crimsun, , it agains says, please check that u have correct plugin
[05:12] <adman_> I would like to know why (or is there any? there isn't a version of linux that will eliminate 80% of these commands you have to us to do simple things
[05:12] <crimsun> psurani: pgrep esd
[05:12] <f_newton> I am glad I just use my computer and dont need to play with it all the time or reconstruct it from scratch out of boredom or something
[05:12] <youngcoder> psurani, have you tried xmms?
[05:12] <psurani> hey it started !!! wow
[05:12] <psurani>  i selected esound !!
[05:12] <Micksa> crimsun: because the hoary kernel is proving less stable/functional
[05:12] <_frank> I just changed my CPU heatsink/fan! I get around 7degC cooler when my CPU is working at 100%. Success!
[05:12] <MrThou> well im off for awhile. you all get to hear me cry later. cya
[05:12] <Micksa> I have a laptop
[05:13] <crimsun> Micksa: it's fine here. That still doesn't mean you have to "port" it. Just download and install.
[05:13] <Micksa> l-i? l-r-m? l-h?
[05:13] <Micksa> ah.
[05:13] <psurani> which playeer is to play movies ??? like .dat files ?
[05:13] <Micksa> pff.
[05:13] <sproingie> Micksa: you could probably just install the breezy kernel.  kernel packages have virtually no dependencies
[05:13] <crimsun> linux-image, linux-restricted
[05:13] <crimsun> -modules, linux-headers
[05:13] <youngcoder> _frank, congrats!
[05:13] <f_newton> _frank, a lot of times that  can be accompished by cleaning the heatsink and applying fresh goop to the processor
[05:13] <Micksa> crimsun: it won't install as-is.
[05:13] <sproingie> Micksa: when it breaks you get to keep both pieces
[05:13] <crimsun> I presume you can attach the correct $(uname -r)
[05:13] <Micksa> needs a later version of, um, something
[05:14] <Micksa> hang on
[05:14] <Micksa> oh! that's right, I want to compile anyway cos I want to add some patches
[05:14] <_frank> f_newton: you're probably right... *sound of bubble bursting*
[05:14] <crimsun> well have fun. Get linux-tree-2.6.12.
[05:15] <vader1102> kaffend: I was having that in a customer pc, it was the heatsink fan on backwards, causing the CPU to overheat
[05:15] <adman_> hello kaffeend
[05:15] <f_newton> dust and dirt are killers of heatsinks and fans
[05:15] <kaffeend> hey adman_
[05:15] <kaffeend> vader1102 28 degrees is cool enough for me
[05:16] <psurani> hey my totem movie player doesnt play VCDs !!! help
[05:16] <vader1102> would be for me too
[05:16] <vader1102> have you checked the RAM?
[05:16] <f_newton> lol 28c?
[05:16] <adman_> kaffeend: I am having so much trouble doing simple stuff. Like installing java.
[05:16] <f_newton> adman_, you just arent literally following the instructions
[05:16] <f_newton> its not a big thing
[05:16] <youngcoder> adman_ what part is giving you trouble?
[05:17] <kaffeend> so when I installed ubuntu I was asked if I wanted to keep windows, but when I try to boot windows it says there's a file missing
[05:17] <adman_> I literally followed the instructions
[05:17] <kaffeend> adman_ yeah so am I
[05:17] <adman_> youngcoder: hold on
[05:17] <youngcoder> ok
[05:17] <levander> Anybody know why running '/etc/init.d/ntpdate restart' puts my monitor in suspend mode?  I thought I lost all my work that I was working on when it did that.
[05:17] <kaffeend> f_newton sorry - 38 deg c
[05:18] <adman_> youngcoder: Go to java.sun.com and download the j2sdk or j2re .bin file for Linux. Not the rpm! Install 'java-package' and 'fakeroot' via Synaptic. Now run 'fakeroot make-jpkg <name of the java file you downloaded>'. This will generate a .deb. Install that file using dpkg. Done!
[05:18] <vader1102> kaffend: still good
[05:18] <levander> I assume it is because it messed with the clock on my gnome panel.  But, is really wierd that changing the time on the clock does that.
[05:18] <f_newton> adman_, one ofthe neat things about computers is gigo.... it gives you exactly what its supposed to when the proper data is inserted... no exceptions
[05:18] <adman_> youngcoder: I followed that exactly and it didn't work
[05:18] <f_newton> yeah that sounds better ... 38c
[05:19] <f_newton> thats still pretty cool
[05:19] <youngcoder> adman_ let me check on it one sec
[05:19] <kaffeend> f_newton 38 is better than 28? weirdo
[05:19] <f_newton> no kaffeend it sounds more honest
[05:19] <f_newton> lol
[05:19] <kaffeend> got 9 fans in this fucker
[05:19] <heatxsink> anyone in here tried to get wlan-ng drivers working on ubuntu?
[05:19] <heatxsink> for pcmcia?
[05:20] <kaffeend> f_newton gotcha now ;)
[05:20] <_frank> kaffeend: 38c for the cpu? what is the environing tempereature?
[05:20] <f_newton> well actually now that I just checked mine its running at 25c so forget I said anything...
[05:20] <kaffeend> f_newton my bad sorry
[05:20] <vader1102> heatxsink: I am using the dwl-g650 in my laptop
[05:20] <sproingie> kaffeend: jeez, is your machine hovering off the desk?
[05:20] <kaffeend> lol
[05:20] <youngcoder> adman_ where did those instructions come from? do you have a link?
[05:20] <heatxsink> vader1102:  really.. is that the pcmcia card?
[05:20] <kaffeend> my machine is making a lot of noise, that's for sure
[05:21] <snippy_> how can I make a folder via terminal ?
[05:21] <vader1102> I believe so.. in the dark right now, wife is asleep
[05:21] <vader1102>  lol
[05:21] <adman_> youngcoder: that was referred to me by someone through ubotu.
[05:21] <kaffeend> _frank I don't know what the case temp is - I just got the cpu temp from the BIOS
[05:21] <misfit_toy> vader1102, you have your pc in the bedroom?
[05:21] <deacon> So, I take it nobody here knows a thing about DSDT config editing then?
[05:21] <snippy_> please
[05:21] <snippy_> how can I make a folder via terminal ?
[05:21] <bimberi> snippy_: mkdir
[05:21] <misfit_toy> deacon, no tme
[05:21] <snippy_> thank you
[05:21] <vader1102> nope, in the living room
[05:21] <D1> deacon, its a bitch.
[05:22] <vader1102> she sleepin on a chair
[05:22] <snippy_> how can I change permission for a directory I made ?
[05:22] <deacon> D1, Tell me about it
[05:22] <youngcoder> adman_ why not use apt-get to install java?
[05:22] <heatxsink> vader1102:  so you got it working?
[05:22] <f_newton> snippy_, man chmod
[05:22] <heatxsink> how?
[05:22] <misfit_toy> vader1102, then give her a good bang and send her to bed
[05:22] <D1> check the recompiled/fixed dsdt page before trying out your own.
[05:22] <vader1102> yes am using it right now
[05:22] <deacon> Been working all day on this frigging thing.  Got it down to just one error.
[05:22] <adman_> youngcoder: i got errors with that too
[05:22] <D1> see if anyone fixed it and posted it.
[05:22] <snippy_> whats the chmod to give permission to all users?
[05:23] <vader1102> that's where i'll be very soon
[05:23] <f_newton> lol misfit_toy you did go git some beer!]
[05:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> chmod 777
[05:23] <bimberi> snippy_: chmod 777 <dir>
[05:23] <snippy_> thanks ^^
[05:23] <misfit_toy> f_newton, yes I did
[05:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> user group others
[05:23] <D1> what kind of laptop is it?
[05:23] <f_newton> :)
[05:23] <kaffeend> anyway, I didn't come in here to talk pc temperatures... lol
[05:23] <deacon> Acer 3002 LCi
[05:23] <D1> haha
[05:23] <f_newton> I am beerless, sigh
[05:23] <D1> I have that.
[05:23] <heatxsink> vader1102:  ?
[05:23] <youngcoder> adman_ im not sure what to tell you
[05:23] <misfit_toy> f_newton, but I have 3 kids, so I need even more beer
[05:23] <vader1102> I am using it right now
[05:23] <D1> did you check the dsdt page at sourceforge?
[05:23] <deacon> Trying to get the stinking Battery Monitor to work
[05:24] <kaffeend> can anyone tell me how I can totally delete my NTFS partition from Ubuntu please?
[05:24] <deacon> Yep
[05:24] <f_newton> ive got more then that just in grandkids misfit_toy
[05:24] <f_newton> heh
[05:24] <starfishy> kaffeend: fdisk
[05:24] <misfit_toy> f_newton, you win then, you need a keg
[05:24] <deacon> Been all over those.  None have the error I'm getting.  But they did help with the other errors I was getting
[05:24] <starfishy> just remove the partition
[05:24] <f_newton> yeah... I do
[05:24] <kaffeend> starfishy is that in terminal?
[05:24] <starfishy> yes
[05:24] <heatxsink> vader1102: is there some kind of wiki or somethign somewhere that steps me thoruhg what I have to do to get those wlan-ng drivers working in ubuntu?
[05:24] <kaffeend> with sudo?
[05:24] <youngcoder> adman_, is this the command u used and got errors?  sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[05:24] <youngcoder> java -version
[05:24] <f_newton> but Id need help drinkin it so as not to lose the timely deposit
[05:24] <vader1102> one sec
[05:24] <D1> http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/view.php?manufacturer=ACER&name=Aspire+3002LCI+or+3000
[05:25] <starfishy> of course fdisk won't be able to grow your filesystem
[05:25] <heatxsink> vader1102:  thanks
[05:25] <vader1102> yw
[05:25] <D1> one of those should work
[05:25] <f_newton> a keg of sam adams would be ok
[05:25] <starfishy> but it will enable you to create another one that you can mount at /home, for instance
[05:25] <adman_> youngcoder: my issue is why all of these DOS-like commands? Is there a distro that will eliminate majority of these?
[05:25] <f_newton> heck even shiner tastes ok in a keg
[05:25] <kaffeend> starfishy Oh damn :P
[05:25] <misfit_toy> f_newton, you are a man of good taste
[05:25] <f_newton> yes I know
[05:25] <f_newton> I is after all... a texan
[05:25] <D1> deacon, what do you think of the quality of the screen is?
[05:25] <f_newton> gw aside
[05:25] <starfishy> there are tools that grow filesystems
[05:25] <D1> mine looks sort of washed out.
[05:26] <misfit_toy> f_newton, I'm in austin, south
[05:26] <f_newton> yes I know... we've talked many times
[05:26] <misfit_toy> lol
[05:26] <deacon> That link is where I got my .asl to work with.
[05:26] <f_newton> Ive seen your backyard pics
[05:26] <adman_> youngcoder: I was told to use that command without the sudo bit.
[05:26] <vader1102> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4057.html
[05:26] <youngcoder> adman_, umm there are a couple of distros that claim to be more "friendly like windows" but i havent tried them
[05:26] <misfit_toy> I know, but I never know who remember's what f_newton
[05:26] <D1> which one are you using
[05:26] <f_newton> yeah well Im not drinking today...
[05:26] <heatxsink> vader1102:  that for me
[05:26] <vader1102> yes,, tired
[05:26] <deacon> D1, Not bad.  although the response time is a tad slow
[05:26] <misfit_toy> f_newton, shame on you
[05:26] <misfit_toy> ;p
[05:26] <kaffeend> starfishy I just want to get windows back onto that NTFS - dunno why it's missing a file now when it didn't earlier
[05:26] <Hoxzer> is there any command based TV recorder software that can setup record timer
[05:26] <youngcoder> adman_, use sudo and see what happens
[05:27] <f_newton> yeah but IM broke
[05:27] <Hoxzer> for linux?
[05:27] <adman_> youngcoder: UBUNTU was reccommended by the biggest Microsoft apologists: ZDNET!
[05:27] <vader1102> later
[05:27] <starfishy> kaffeend: oh
[05:27] <starfishy> you want to reinstall windows?
[05:27] <f_newton> it must be rough having to use windows
[05:27] <D1> I just updated to the latest bios and patched it with some patches I found on the acpi boards
[05:27] <f_newton> lol
[05:27] <starfishy> then why do you want to remove the partition?
[05:28] <deacon> D1, which BIOS are you using?
[05:28] <D1> but some guy added a new dsdt with the new bios that I posted earlier.
[05:28] <youngcoder> adman_, Ubuntu is very easy compared to some others
[05:28] <PurpleMotion> according to this, partition magic should run off the cd and allow me to resize my partitions
[05:28] <D1> 3A24
[05:28] <deacon> Yeah, that's the one I'm using
[05:28] <kaffeend> starfishy I tried to reinstall windows on the NTFS that's there already but it freezes after checking system hardware
[05:28] <deacon> Got it off the link from sourceforge'
[05:28] <misfit_toy> PurpleMotion, Pmagic should do it all as long as it's the most recent version
[05:28] <f_newton> ah theres the rub
[05:28] <f_newton> ...
[05:28] <D1> which 3A24 dsdt are you using?
[05:28] <starfishy> kaffeend: justy zero out the first meg of the partition
[05:28] <deacon> Minimal
[05:29] <deacon> the 512MB one is Blank
[05:29] <PurpleMotion> misfit_toy:  it is... i just have no windows installation, but all iw ant to do is resize my ext3 partition, and parted refuses to do it
[05:29] <adman_> youngcoder: I realized that, UBUNTU installed on my thinkpad in thirty minutes, I was very imperssed!
[05:29] <D1> ah
[05:29] <kaffeend> starfishy what the?
[05:29] <D1> thats not mine.
[05:29] <PurpleMotion> and parted gives me shit for information as to why it wont
[05:29] <D1> but mine has 512MB anyway.
[05:29] <deacon> I'd report it, but I'm not sure who I should tell
[05:29] <Micksa> PurpleMotion: you're not *the* purple motion are you?...
[05:29] <D1> I posted one.
[05:29] <youngcoder> adman_, did that command work?
[05:29] <misfit_toy> PurpleMotion, have you tried qparted?
[05:29] <deacon> Which one?
[05:29] <D1> but the one you're using isn't the one I posted.
[05:29] <starfishy> kaffeend: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdaX bs=512 count=2000
[05:29] <PurpleMotion> Micksa:  you mean the musician purplemotion or the one who ran the dalnet server?
[05:29] <D1> http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/view.php?id=398
[05:30] <Micksa> oh gawd
[05:30] <Micksa> THEY'RE EVERYWHERE
[05:30] <Micksa> the first one
[05:30] <PurpleMotion> misfit_toy:  oh yeah.. but it uses parted, so how far do you think you can go with it, heh
[05:30] <starfishy> hadX would have to be replaced by your ntfs partition
[05:30] <Micksa> I don't care about irc sysops :)
[05:30] <PurpleMotion> nah, im the latter
[05:30] <f_newton> dalnet server? well thats nothing to be proud of
[05:30] <Micksa> ;)
[05:30] <misfit_toy> PurpleMotion, I've seen qparted work when parted didn't
[05:30] <PurpleMotion> f_newton:  it was in 96, 97, and 98
[05:30] <f_newton> I was there then...
[05:30] <PurpleMotion> misfit_toy:  well, not int his case
[05:30] <f_newton> dalnet was kiddie scripter land
[05:31] <Micksa> *snigger*
[05:31] <deacon> D1, that's the one I used!
[05:31] <misfit_toy> l8r ya'll
[05:31] <deacon> I think...
[05:31] <f_newton> night misfit_toy
[05:31] <D1> heh, thats mine.
[05:31] <PurpleMotion> l8r misfit
[05:31] <D1> do you have 512MB?
[05:31] <flodine> anyone got a link to install E17 for ubuntu?
[05:31] <deacon> 256 +512
[05:31] <PurpleMotion> isnt e17 still in development?
[05:31] <f_newton> PurpleMotion, what happened to dalnet anyway?
[05:31] <D1> maybe you should try the other guy's bios
[05:31] <flodine> yes
[05:31] <flodine> and
[05:31] <PurpleMotion> (doesnt look any different from e16 to me)
[05:31] <D1> wonder why mine doesn't compile...
[05:32] <deacon> What, the originals?
[05:32] <D1> I had 1 warning but no errors and everything worked fine.
[05:32] <D1> no
[05:32] <adman_> youngcoder: this is wht i get>>>root@ubu:/home/adman # sudo apt-get install sun-j2rel.5
[05:32] <adman_> Reading package lists... Done
[05:32] <adman_> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:32] <adman_> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2rel.5
[05:32] <adman_> root@ubu:/home/adman #
[05:32] <benplaut> flodline: search the forums for "smoon"'s repo
[05:32] <flodine> then run 16
[05:32] <kaffeend> starfishy I don't know what that was meant to do, but the output is: 2000+0 records in
[05:32] <kaffeend> 2000+0 records out
[05:32] <kaffeend> 1024000 bytes transferred in 0.008009 seconds (127856850 bytes/sec)
[05:32] <D1> wait
[05:32] <PurpleMotion> f_newton:  it had this micro-social pecking order... basically it killed itself with it's own political system
[05:32] <D1> so you have 768?
[05:32] <starfishy> nos the xp install should work
[05:32] <starfishy> now
[05:32] <D1> http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/view.php?id=408 - thats the other 512MB
[05:32] <f_newton> ah
[05:32] <starfishy> it will just see an empty ntfs partition
[05:32] <youngcoder> adman_ one sec
[05:32] <deacon> Well, I keep getting the error " syntax error, unexpected PARSEOP_METHOD, expecting $end"
[05:33] <kaffeend> starfishy cool... I will give it a go and let you know what happens
[05:33] <D1> well, try compiling that last link and see how it works.
[05:33] <starfishy> kaffeend: the problem with removing and recreating the partition is that it does _not_ empty it
[05:33] <starfishy> so basically removing and recreating the partition would not have helped
[05:33] <deacon> When I comment out the last Paragraph of the dsdt, it compiles, but then I can't boot to that selection once I add it to the boot menu.  Just gets stuck loading modules.
[05:35] <D1> hmm
[05:35] <D1> are you using the flex-old package to compile the intel compiler?
[05:36] <deacon> Oh, BTW, that link for the 512MD dsdt is the blank one.  Just has the intro lines, and nothing else
[05:36] <D1> oh weird.
[05:36] <deacon> Yep, flex-old.
[05:36] <deacon> followed the directions in the wiki to the T
[05:36] <Keegan> is there a limit to the amount of data that can be stored on the desktop?
[05:36] <youngcoder> adman_, did you ever add extra repositories
[05:36] <youngcoder> ?
[05:37] <adman_> repositories?
[05:37] <Keegan> because when I tried to put about 10GB of music there, it said there was not enough space in that location
[05:37] <f_newton> lol adman_ sometimes a little bit of reading and preparation can make a lot of difference
[05:38] <Keegan> adman_:repostitories are basically sites for getting additional packages
[05:38] <snow2> hi guys, anyone tried to sync the latest evolution with a palm
[05:38] <youngcoder> adman_, http://ubuntuguide.org/..... it will have a section on adding extra repositories then that command should work
[05:39] <deacon> You know, D1, I don't think I tried your file.  Lemme try that one and see how it goes
[05:39] <D1> ok.
[05:39] <deacon> You on here regularly?
[05:39] <D1> but remember, it'll only work if you have 512MB
[05:39] <D1> yeah.
[05:39] <PurpleMotion> !ubuntuguide
[05:39] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[05:39] <deacon> over 512 OK?
[05:39] <deltab> Keegan: the desktop is a directory within your home directory
[05:39] <D1> haven't tried that.
[05:39] <PurpleMotion> PLEASE do not suggest the ubuntuguide
[05:39] <adman_> f_newton: that is exactly what I am talking about the interfaces are too complex. It took 3 hours in here to get to this point?
[05:39] <deacon> is there a specific line I need to edit?
[05:40] <D1> Im trying to find the acpi mailing list post I used...
[05:40] <deltab> Keegan: open a terminal and type  df -h ~/Desktop
[05:40] <f_newton> adman_, no they arent... you just have to stop thinking the windows way... its wrong in the first place
[05:40] <youngcoder> ubotu, it worked for me just fine
[05:40] <ubotu> youngcoder: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[05:41] <adman_> f_newton: you still haven't answered me.
[05:41] <f_newton> and contrary to a lot of people's opinions in here (no offense) learning cli commands is very important
[05:41] <f_newton> what was your question?
[05:41] <D1> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=11911331
[05:42] <D1> this is where I got the two patches to fix the dsdt
[05:42] <D1> maybe theres something there you can use.
[05:42] <kaffeend> starfishy no worky mate
[05:42] <deacon> Thanks!  I'll check there and let you know how it worked out
[05:42] <youngcoder> i hate it that people thing that if you have to read instructions that it makes things too hard.. research never hurt anyone
[05:42] <kaffeend> :(
[05:43] <D1> good luck.
[05:43] <Fizile> unless youre doing field work with lions
[05:44] <kaffeend> with windows it's a battle NOT to lose stuff, but I can't kill my hdd for some reason :s
[05:44] <childe> Hi
[05:44] <Fizile> is there an amd64 version of cedega?
[05:44] <childe> I got a problem. It seems all my packages can't be authenticated!
[05:44] <adman_> f_newton:  Why are there so many "DOS 5.0 type commands" thaat you have to use to do simple things. I understand the linux way is somewhat better eg: no .dll install in /windows/system /system32 and all that crap. Why after all this time these little commands still exist?
[05:45] <childe> Synaptic keeps saying that "You are about  to install software that can't be authenticated!". These are not universe packages
[05:45] <kaffeend> can anyone tell me how/if I can totally erase the contents of my HDD please?
[05:45] <brettcar> kaffeend: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda
[05:46] <nickrud> adman_, the things aren't so simple, it's just that having the cli lets you do them simply :)
[05:46] <brettcar> kaffeend: You must run it from a boot CD or while booting from another hard drive of course.
[05:46] <kaffeend> brettcar thanks
[05:46] <f_newton> ok adman_ first off those dos commands came from cbp and those came from multics and unix... simple command words enable much greater power in doing the work instead of using all your resources to tranlate from gif to path to application
[05:46] <brettcar> kaffeend: If you want the most security, run it a few times or with /dev/random instead of /dev/zero (it will take longer though)
[05:46] <qwe> HI ALL, I need help getting my Wireless card to work.  Im on an AMD64
[05:47] <kaffeend> ok, can anyone tell me how/if I can totally erase the contents of my HDD from WITHIN Ubuntu please?
[05:47] <deltab> f_newton: "cbp"?
[05:47] <nickrud> f_newton, eh, I just jumped too soon
[05:47] <f_newton> wait it was cpm
[05:47] <f_newton> ive slept since those days
[05:47] <brettcar> kaffeend: You can't really. Not completely. Download the Ubuntu live CD and do that.
[05:47] <deltab> kaffeend: same command
[05:47] <deltab> ah
[05:47] <kaffeend> brettcar I don't know what I'm doing
[05:48] <brettcar> kaffeend: I wouldn't recommend trying to erase your entire drive without good reason then =)
[05:48] <deltab> f_newton: ah, I thought I might have missed something
[05:48] <deltab> brettcar: why not?
[05:48] <f_newton> no... Im missing years of memory cells .... killed in the great budweiser wars ... lol
[05:48] <deltab> kaffeend: why are you trying to do that?
[05:49] <kaffeend> brettcar I'm trying to run windows, which is on the HDD's NTFS partition, but it's missing Hal.dll so I need to reinstall it, but having trouble with that
[05:49] <IcemanV9> qwe: did u check wiki? forums? for wifi card on AMD64 box?
[05:49] <qwe> CAN anyone help me with my wireless card.  it works on 32 bit but not 64 bit...what gives??
[05:49] <kaffeend> deltab I'm trying to run windows, which is on the HDD's NTFS partition, but it's missing Hal.dll so I need to reinstall it, but having trouble with that
[05:49] <brettcar> kaffeend: If you have your original Windows media/CDs you should be able to do a clean install from that?
[05:50] <adman_> f_newton: yes i understand that. My biggest problem is how are we going to translate windows users to linux/ubuntu if when you need support you have to drop to a cmd prompt to fix the problems. I like going to terminal, but at this time i will not reccommend ubuntu or any flavor of linux to my clients.
[05:50] <kaffeend> brettcar that's what I thought
[05:50] <f_newton> but to make a long story short adman_ cli is a far superior way of manipulating an operating system but its not easier for the beginner... soon though, the beginner finds that waiting for icons etc to work just complicates and slows down the machine
[05:50] <childe> kaffeend: Maybe you need to erase your  MBR
[05:50] <f_newton> adman_, Ubuntu is the least command line interface distro Ive seen to date
[05:50] <childe> If you  installed GRUB on MBR.
[05:50] <qwe> iceman: what am i looking for in wiki?
[05:50] <nickrud> adman_, that's where you make your money: you set it up, and it works from there on, iirc :)
[05:50] <deltab> adman_: you don't necessary have to, but it can be more familiar and easier for long-time users
[05:51] <kaffeend> childe yep
[05:51] <f_newton> as a matter of fact that is the only drawback I can find with it
[05:51] <f_newton> adman_, there is very litte you need to use command line for that you cant get thru the gui
[05:51] <IcemanV9> qwe: name of wifi card
[05:51] <f_newton> but without the command line interface I find myself getting frustrated
[05:51] <kaffeend> f_newton you're right there
[05:52] <adman_> nickrud: I am not being selfish
[05:52] <kaffeend> f_newton I don't even mind using the command line
[05:52] <f_newton> I have gotten pretty used to the redhat way of doing things
[05:52] <adman_> f_newton I understand that
[05:52] <Tarcastil> hey, anyone know how I can set a wheel-thing with keycodes 174 and 176 to map to a mouses's scroll wheel?
[05:52] <thejavafreak> join #fedora
[05:52] <nickrud> adman_, sorry
[05:52] <Chaotic_Reality> can someone explain to me why in kde, xmms runs off the oss driver, but in gnome it runs off esound?  wouldn't it run off the same device for both? seems odd
[05:52] <regeya> I have seen people advocate ditching GNOME Terminal because it's "confusing"
[05:52] <thejavafreak> sorry typo
[05:52] <snippy_> good night everyone I'm going to bed..
[05:52] <regeya> and nothing as a replacement
[05:52] <f_newton> but adman_ LINUX is a much more stable and powerful operating system then windows and it just comes with the program that you need to familiarize yourself with it
[05:53] <f_newton> its not a little red wagon.... its a dang rocket ship
[05:53] <nickrud> adman_, what I really meant was, you can do the cli stuff, and your users just use what you give. I do that a bit.
[05:53] <Xyc0> Chaotic_Reality: Did you change the plugin back to esound and it not work?
[05:53] <kaffeend> childe so how do I do that please?
[05:53] <DigitalFox> will I get much performance increase from switching to the -686 optimized kernel?
[05:53] <Tarcastil> anyone know?
[05:53] <Chaotic_Reality> Xyc0, it just wouldn't play under the esound earlier, so I tried oss and it worked. *shrug*
[05:53] <childe> kaffeend: Use this command: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[05:53] <qwe> iceman:im on a Intel 2200bg and there is no wifi for that
[05:53] <Chaotic_Reality> but under gnome it works under esound
[05:53] <kaffeend> childe ok thanks
[05:54] <f_newton> adman_, use linux for a couple of weeks then switch back to windows... you will understand
[05:54] <childe> kaffeend: Change "hda" to your hard disk device
[05:54] <kaffeend> do I need sudo?
[05:54] <Xyc0> Doesn't esound use the OSS drivers?
[05:54] <DigitalFox> wait woah kaffeend what are you doing?
[05:54] <IcemanV9> qwe: name?? anyway, i found one wiki page > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowtoUseNdiswrapperOnAmd64Ubuntu
[05:54] <childe> kaffeend: Yes
[05:54] <nickrud> Chaotic_Reality, no, it's about what processes bind to what devices.
[05:54] <f_newton> I am pretty lost in ubuntu
[05:54] <kaffeend> DigitalFox I'm going to erase my hard drive
[05:54] <Chaotic_Reality> nickrud, so it can change at anytime?
[05:54] <f_newton> but its very stable so I will learn it
[05:54] <IcemanV9> qwe: i'm no expert on amd64 (someday, i will owe one of those)
[05:55] <nickrud> Chaotic_Reality, yes, arts (kde) is not the same as esd/esound (gnome)
[05:55] <f_newton> and its debian based which strongly appeals to me
[05:55] <adman_> nickrud: f_newton: I am talking about the world in general. What do we need to do to start converting the masses or are we going to wait until linus goes the way of OS/2? Which was superrior to windows in all ways.
[05:55] <nickrud> adman_, not to get all gooey here, but, os2 is not the gnu/linux experience :)
[05:55] <Xyc0> f_newton: meh, stability is a user issue.  Linux teaches you how to keep a stable system.  Windows trys to do it automaticaly and fails
[05:55] <f_newton> adman_, os2 is still used in many grocery stores, resturants, warehouses etc to keep track of sales and ordering
[05:55] <Chaotic_Reality> nickrud, i see.  are there issues with running two applications that use sound at the same time?
[05:56] <f_newton> windows is mr generic
[05:56] <Chaotic_Reality> ie: xmms and gaim
[05:56] <childe> Now can someone help me? APT can't ahthenticate official packages
[05:56] <IcemanV9> yeah, it IS too bad that IBM has decided to kill OS/2 (they haven't improved them anyway!)
[05:56] <f_newton> it does generality well
[05:56] <f_newton> but nothing very well
[05:56] <kaffeend> DigitalFox were you going to suggest an alternative before I pull the plug on Ubuntu?
[05:56] <troy_> hi
[05:56] <troy_> anyone here use nvidia drivers?
[05:56] <nickrud> Chaotic_Reality, yes. The fundamental issue is how to let more than one app send sound to a single device at the same time.
[05:56] <kaffeend> troy_ I do
[05:56] <troy_> i need the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-jp3.run
[05:56] <Xyc0> kaffeend: you should never need to pull the plug on ubuntu
[05:56] <f_newton> IcemanV9, warp sucd
[05:56] <troy_> the http://ngc891.blogdns.net/kernel/patches/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-jp3.run is down
[05:57] <troy_> do you have this pacage?
[05:57] <nickrud> Chaotic_Reality, if you have a good sound card (it does alsa's multiopen)  the issue is academic
[05:57] <kaffeend> Xyc0 I agree, but I apparently stuffed it up somehow
[05:57] <qwe> iceman: what is "ndiswrapper"
[05:57] <Chaotic_Reality> nickrud, understandable.  the sounds w/ gaim suck anyway. wish the windows would flash though
[05:57] <DekaPink> --; My trash bin seems to think it has stuff in it when it doesn't, according to its icon. :3
[05:57] <Xyc0> kaffeend: how so?
[05:57] <Chaotic_Reality> nickrud, nah, just a laptop so nothing amazing. i don't think any laptop has a great soundcard heh
[05:57] <PurpleMotion> not true
[05:57] <Xyc0> troy_: the nvidia drivers can be installed through apt-get easy enough, why not try that?
[05:57] <kaffeend> Xyc0 I don't have /local in my /usr directory
[05:57] <troy_> no
[05:57] <troy_> they can't
[05:57] <PurpleMotion> toshiba makes some laptops with sb audigy chipsets
[05:58] <troy_> i have a geforce 2 go
[05:58] <Xyc0> kaffeend: why do you need to go there?
[05:58] <troy_> only works with 6111 or lower
[05:58] <f_newton> IcemanV9, but I can write an os2 routine on a floppy that will maintain building logistics, security, and fire systems
[05:58] <nickrud> Chaotic_Reality, so, esd and alsa are intended to be buffers between apps and sound cards
[05:58] <troy_> so i need 6111 2.6.9+ patch
[05:58] <guardianx> how do u type in red? like sometimes people ans my msg and i see it display red ... how do i do that??
[05:58] <Chaotic_Reality> PurpleMotion, cool.  Mine is a gateway. :O
[05:58] <troy_> i need the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-jp3.run
[05:58] <nickrud> s/alsa/arts/
[05:58] <kaffeend> xyc0 I have to move a folder there which isn't working in it's current location
[05:58] <Chaotic_Reality> nickrud, so i guess sound is kde's weak point?
[05:58] <PurpleMotion> not really
[05:59] <PurpleMotion> i like arts
[05:59] <Xyc0> kaffeend: ... why don't you tell me your ultimate goal, we can work from there
[05:59] <troy_> ill check in #nvidia
[05:59] <kaffeend> xyco I want to play America's Army
[05:59] <nickrud> Chaotic_Reality, I don't run kde, so I won't say; sound is still the kernel's weakness, though.
[05:59] <troy_> i want to play AA to!
[05:59] <troy_> thats why i need this driver
[05:59] <Chaotic_Reality> it sounds just like the mp3s in gnome, but i've already ran into issues where it thinks something else is open using the sound so it won't work. annoying
[05:59] <Chaotic_Reality> nickrud, ahh
[05:59] <Xyc0> kaffeend: did you type sudo sh AmericasArmy.bin?
[05:59] <kaffeend> troy_ gl with that - was at it all day yesterday
[05:59] <adman_> nickrud:  f_newton I am signing off of ubuntu. I attempted redhat at version 6.0, now I will do the same for UBUNTU. See you all in 3 years after I get tired of Windows Vista.
[05:59] <PurpleMotion> my sound works fine, even though its a full duplex card and sure as hell doesnt do full duplex
[06:00] <f_newton> adman_, do what you feel is best
[06:00] <Chaotic_Reality> it'd be cool if my external speakers worked w/ my laptop. i'd be happy
[06:00] <nickrud> adman_, I ran redhat 6.0; switched to debian a while back
[06:00] <kaffeend> xyc0 no I double-clicked the armyops sh file
[06:00] <Xyc0> that is why
[06:00] <PurpleMotion> attitudes like that annoy me
[06:00] <Chaotic_Reality> ?
[06:00] <Xyc0> kaffeend: you need to install it with root permissions, for some odd reason it wont let me as user
[06:01] <kaffeend> Xyc0 It's at /home/me/Desktop/armyops/armyops
[06:01] <f_newton> but honestlyh adman_ we prefer to have the rubes use windows... it gives us greater power over them
[06:01] <nickrud> Chaotic_Reality, it's a matter of the cards, really, not the kernel. Bad memories :)
[06:01] <PurpleMotion> i'll give it a shot for a day, but the first time something doesnt work, im gonna go back to windows.. know what i think? i think you should STAY there.
[06:01] <Xyc0> Purple stop
[06:01] <kaffeend> Xyc0 I can run it, but in-game I enter my username and password, click enter and it times out
[06:01] <f_newton> now now PurpleMotion adman_ is doing the best he knows how
[06:01] <IcemanV9> f_newton: same here .. i always created many programs that will install the app automagically on many boxes back then .. now, we have to depends on Tivoli, Wise or WinInstall to install apps automagically (very expensive way to do it)
[06:02] <Chaotic_Reality> heh i don't recall saying i was going to go back to windows.
[06:02] <f_newton> IcemanV9, I dont
[06:02] <PurpleMotion> YMMV, im just in a bad mood, dont mind me people
[06:02] <f_newton> lol I use what I want to use and the new boys on the block are lost
[06:02] <f_newton> lol
[06:02] <Xyc0> kaffeend: So wait, wait, what does that have to do with copying to usr/local?
[06:03] <kaffeend> Someone in here said that's what I should do
[06:03] <IcemanV9> f_newton: we switched from os/2 to winnt back then .. it's the company's decision (for what i don't care anymore ha!)
[06:03] <kaffeend> Xyc0 someone here suggested it
[06:03] <Xyc0> PurpleMotion: keep it too your self or make a weblog, this room is for helping
[06:03] <f_newton> IcemanV9, nt is built on the os2 model
[06:03] <PurpleMotion> Xyc0:  of which i do more than my fair share :) dont mind me, man, bad day
[06:04] <Xyc0> PurpleMotion: no worries dude, I just dont like to see new users put down
[06:04] <PurpleMotion> I just hate to see people give up
[06:04] <kaffeend> PurpleMotion some of us (like moi) are just thick/disabled
[06:04] <PurpleMotion> and some are just SO ready to
[06:04] <PurpleMotion> thick and disables are synonamous? heheheh
[06:04] <PurpleMotion> disabled
[06:05] <Xyc0> kaffeend: the time out sounds like a problem with AA's nickserver
[06:05] <Chaotic_Reality> taking dog for a walk. bbiab
[06:05] <Xyc0> kaffeend: can you play single player?
[06:05] <kaffeend> PurpleMotion I am new, like 1 week new, but I wanna stay coz I can see that this offers every flexibility I could ever want
[06:05] <f_newton> adman_, VISTA hasnt come out yet has it?
[06:05] <DigitalFox> hrm
[06:05] <Xyc0> No
[06:05] <Xyc0> vista is still beta
[06:05] <kaffeend> Xyc0 no - can't even train
[06:05] <adman_> hahaha, man I am not the enemy. I love this stuff. I use linux for firewalls, caching, web-hosting. My issue is that the desktop/I needs to be made easier for the masses.
[06:06] <f_newton> I need a copy to learn the hacks err I mean to investigate its ...security, yeah thats it...
[06:06] <Xyc0> kaffeend: did you install your video card drivers?
[06:06] <PurpleMotion> Xyc0:  not saying this is true of the person in question, but far too often i see people try linux just so they can find reasons to feel justified in using windows...
[06:06] <PurpleMotion> adman_:  yeah man, my bad
[06:06] <PurpleMotion> and kaffeend
[06:06] <adman_> f_newton: I have to beta and it looks great so far.
[06:06] <PurpleMotion> i know, ive seen you in here EVERY day :)
[06:06] <kaffeend> Xyco um... I think so - nVidia shows on bootup
[06:06] <nickrud> adman_, yeah, a few years of trying tells me you are right ;(
[06:06] <PurpleMotion> and you're learning
[06:06] <Xyc0> PurpleMotion: I agree with you on that, you dont join a distro channel and talk about how much better another distro is
[06:07] <Xyc0> I consider windows a distro of M$
[06:07] <kaffeend> lol AND I'm disabled too
[06:07] <f_newton> adman_, I dont know anyone yet who has had trouble usin this as a desktop... its just when you try to play admin that it gets broken
[06:07] <Xyc0> kaffeend: open terminal and enter: glxinfo
[06:07] <Xyc0> kaffeend: scroll to the top of all that data
[06:08] <kaffeend> Xyc0 yep
[06:08] <Xyc0> kaffeend: tell me if direct rendering  is yes
[06:08] <PurpleMotion> Xyc0:  i couldnt care less about distro wars, everybody who's worth a damn knows rpm sucks, apt rules :-P It's the people who try linux and just look for something to go wrong and then they say "see thats why i use windows and windows is better" I just like to smash their fscking heads through a wall
[06:08] <z|bandito> i own a box that i loan to some student friends for use as a desktop
[06:08] <f_newton> I have deployed hundreds of fedora desktops in office environments and the people tend to like it better after a few weeks of grumbling.... and believe me ubuntu is much easier then fedora
[06:08] <adman_> Aha, that is where Vista improves on XP and tha others, by not giving full admin priv. to the user.
[06:08] <kaffeend> Xyc0 it is
[06:08] <Xyc0> PurpleMotion: breath brother, breath
[06:08] <nickrud> I hate that a person can walk into the local stationary, sees a $14us package that makes greeting cards, and there's no alternative here
[06:08] <f_newton> adman you can set users in any nt envion
[06:08] <f_newton> environ'
[06:08] <z|bandito> as remote administrator and root, is there a way i can display a message and/or image in a popup window to them?
[06:08] <PurpleMotion> told ya, bro.. BAD day
[06:09] <PurpleMotion> im getting better tho
[06:09] <deacon> D1:  You there?
[06:09] <D1> ya
[06:09] <Xyc0> Linux users need a manifest to remind us why we do what we do
[06:09] <z|bandito> like ssh in, and make a window appear on their gnome session with a message and image?
[06:09] <PurpleMotion> but I'm always truly delighted to see people like kaffeend who are not only willing to learn the new system, but seem even eager to do so
[06:09] <Xyc0> manifesto
[06:09] <kaffeend> lol
[06:10] <kaffeend> thanks PurpleMotion
[06:10] <deacon> You might want to re-upload you dsdt file to sourceforge.  I just tried to use it, it's totally corrupt.
[06:10] <Xyc0> kaffeend: run americasarmy from terminal
[06:10] <Miks>  how can i make the "floppy" drive unit to dissapear from the "Computer", like unmounting it forever...i disconnected it but it still appears in the system
[06:10] <D1> oh sucky.w
[06:10] <kaffeend> and I fucking hate windows with a passion!
[06:10] <Xyc0> kaffeend: do you know how?
[06:10] <D1> what happens when you download it?
[06:10] <deacon> full of ASCII test
[06:10] <guardianx> how do u respond to some1 in the chat room and make them see the font as red?
[06:10] <z|bandito> i guess i could just launch an image viewer remotely, but it's a very old box with limited resources, so i'd like to just have a window appear in the existing gnome session with an 'ok' button or something similar
[06:10] <deacon> text
[06:10] <Xyc0> kaffeend: watch the language
[06:10] <kaffeend> chmod +x /home/etc..?
[06:11] <kaffeend> Xyc0 sorry for the language everyone :s
[06:11] <PurpleMotion> how do you guys think aa will run on my system? i got a 1.7ghz/256k p4, a 128mb radeon9250, 384mb ram, a 120gb uata-100/2mbcache hdd with the latest fglrx drivers (kernel, xorg)
[06:11] <Xyc0> kaffeend: did you try to run AA from terminal?
[06:11] <kaffeend> Xyc0 how do I run it from terminal please?
[06:12] <D1> try right clicking and downloading.
[06:12] <Xyc0> PurpleMotion: run it at lowest possible textures, but keep your resolution resonable
[06:12] <D1> then decompressing it
[06:12] <Madpilot> guardianx: start your line with their nick, usually
[06:12] <PurpleMotion> Xyc0:  you really think ill need to set the textures low?
[06:12] <deacon> I used wget actually
[06:12] <deacon> but I can try right click
[06:12] <PurpleMotion> the 9250 is a pretty beefy card
[06:12] <HrdwrBoB> PurpleMotion: not really
[06:12] <bimberi> Miks: Try editing /etc/fstab and commenting out the relevant line (ie. with /dev/fd0 or floppy or the like)
[06:12] <kaffeend> I have a 5700
[06:12] <qwe> WHO KNOWS AMD64s REALLY WELL?????????
[06:13] <kaffeend> :)
[06:13] <Xyc0> PurpleMotion: yes, AA has crazy textures.  Not nessisarily good, just high process
[06:13] <zer0> does anyone know how to install bzflag? i'm on hoary and apt-get says "E: Couldn't find package bzflag" . do i need some new servers in my sources.list ?
[06:13] <PurpleMotion> i mean its not spectacular, but it's not shite either
[06:13] <D1> I'll reupload anyway.
[06:13] <zer0> does anyone know how to install bzflag? i'm on hoary and apt-get says "E: Couldn't find package bzflag" . do i need some new servers in my sources.list ?
[06:13] <PurpleMotion> right on
[06:13] <Xyc0> someone kick zero
[06:13] <kaffeend> qwe I have one
[06:13] <Miks> thanks bimberi :)
[06:13] <Madpilot> !lart zer0
[06:13] <PurpleMotion> it's a hell of a lot better than the card i *had*... I had a 16MB 2xAGP ATI Rage 128 Pro Ultra
[06:13] <Xyc0> nice
[06:13] <bimberi> Miks: yw :) did it work?
[06:14] <Xyc0> PurpleMotion: it isnt the card, its the drivers
[06:14] <Madpilot> wow, some of ubotu's larts are pretty evil... ;)
[06:14] <Xyc0> PurpleMotion: ati drivers bottle neck the card
[06:14] <Xyc0> ha ha
[06:14] <Miks> yep!
[06:15] <bimberi> Miks: thanks - I'll lock that one into the personal knowledgebase then :)
[06:15] <Xyc0> zer0: don't spam your question, that doesn't encourage anyone to help you
[06:15] <PurpleMotion> Xyc0:  well, the fglrx package maintained by ubuntu failed me, so i used the latest fglrx drivers from ati.com, and yeah i can see where the drivers are bottlenecking the card, but actually i'd prefer that to the problems people have with the accelerated nvidia drivers
[06:15] <kaffeend> Xyc0 I'm not sure how to run AA from Terminal - is it sudo chmod +x /home/me/Desktop/Armyops?
[06:15] <PurpleMotion> cause at least the ati drivers are stable
[06:15] <Miks> hehe...yeah...its kinda funny..but it works..thats why i love this system :)
[06:15] <Xyc0> PurpleMotion: heh, no just stick with the ones ubuntu has
[06:15] <deacon> oh crud.  Now/ I've gone and forgotten the "move" command
[06:16] <PurpleMotion> Xyc0:  absolutely not. they failed me
[06:16] <f_newton> mv deacon mv
[06:16] <Madpilot> deacon: mv?
[06:16] <Xyc0> kaffeend: oh im sorry, i was looking up the terminal command for you
[06:16] <deacon> oh yeah. duh
[06:16] <Xyc0> kaffeend: one sec
[06:16] <PurpleMotion> i was unable to acheive DRI
[06:16] <kaffeend> Xyc0 ok
[06:16] <PurpleMotion> no matter what i did
[06:16] <PurpleMotion> now, i have dri :)
[06:16] <deacon> I MUST be tired when I make dumb mistakes liek that
[06:16] <f_newton> lol this laptop has a massive 8meg ati mobility one card in it
[06:16] <PurpleMotion> deacon:  like misspelling like?
[06:16] <Fizile> whoa buddy
[06:16] <f_newton> lol
[06:16] <deacon> yep. lol
[06:17] <psurani> guys,  does download manager in ubuntu suppot resume ?? i mean while downloading is electricity goes off, is it poosible to resume then ??
[06:17] <deacon> neeed sleeeeep
[06:17] <PurpleMotion> go to bed
[06:17] <Xyc0> kaffeend: in terminal: armyops
[06:17] <f_newton> psurani, I really dont know
[06:17] <PurpleMotion> Hai, Dr_Willis
[06:17] <Kyral> away Bedtime
[06:17] <aru> deacon: get a linux book :)
[06:17] <kaffeend> Ubuntu is a bestower of virtues
[06:17] <Kyral> ...damn forgot the /
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> Moo!
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[06:17] <Xyc0> kaffeend: when you run it, do everything you normaly want to do
[06:18] <kaffeend> ok Xyc0 thanks
[06:18] <Madpilot> deacon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[06:18] <nickrud> psurani, yes, downloadmanger will resume where the download left off
[06:18] <Xyc0> kaffeend: if it crashes, paste the error in !pastebin
[06:18] <Xyc0> !pastebin
[06:18] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[06:18] <psurani> i m talking abt d4x
[06:18] <kaffeend> didn't crash coz didn't work Xyc0
[06:18] <isai> how do I add a menu entry to the gnome-menu?
[06:18] <nickrud> psurani, I think that's d4x's purpose, if the server will support resume
[06:18] <Xyc0> kaffeend: what was the error?
[06:18] <deacon> ok, now, I knew the command.  I'm just so dang tired after spending all day editing ACPI DSDT files and TBshooting them I had a brain fart.
[06:19] <PurpleMotion> bbl, my kid wants to watch bad news bears
[06:19] <kaffeend> Xyc0 bash: armyops: command not found
[06:19] <psurani> nickrud, ahh i see ,thanks
[06:19] <Antiparadigm> What is the name of the file where I would put the [hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc ]  command so that it does it automatically?
[06:19] <deacon> But I do need sleep.
[06:19] <deacon> I thnk I'll pick it up tomorrow
[06:20] <deacon> CU all later!
[06:20] <nickrud> Antiparadigm, is that your cdrom/dvd?
[06:20] <Xyc0> kaffeend: how did you install AA?
[06:20] <Antiparadigm> DVD
[06:20] <Antiparadigm> It is set to dma off by default
[06:20] <IcemanV9> Antiparadigm: /etc/hdparm.conf
[06:20] <Antiparadigm> Cool
[06:20] <Antiparadigm> thanks
[06:20] <nickrud> Antiparadigm, /etc/hdparm is run too early to work.
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> Antiparadigm,   i normally put it at the end of that ocnfig file - read the comments.. :P
[06:20] <kaffeend> Xyc0 Ah... Um, I can't remember dude - was a lot of messing about
[06:20] <Antiparadigm> Ok.
[06:20] <Antiparadigm> No prob
[06:20] <psurani> nickrud, , for installing packages like xmms, d4x, will i have to change my repostries, of i can directly execute the sudo apt-get install commands ?
[06:21] <kaffeend> working
[06:21] <Xyc0> kaffeend: well, why don't you try installing it following the directions
[06:21] <Xyc0> kaffeend: sorry if that sounded sarcastic, it wasnt ment to be
[06:21] <nickrud> psurani, for d4x and xmms, specifically, you need to enable universe.
[06:21] <glick> Discovery's cargo module returns to the playload [sic]  bay Friday as the crew began to wrap up their work.
[06:21] <glick> lol as seen on CNN.com
[06:22] <psurani> nickrud, , how to enable them ??
[06:22] <nickrud> !tell psurani about repositories
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> it has a jungle gym and everything
[06:22] <psurani> nickrud, , i know source.list thing,
[06:22] <psurani> but do i need to add any line in that ?
[06:22] <kaffeend> Xyc0 - but it runs fine- until I hit Login and it says connecting......
[06:22] <Crane> hiya
[06:23] <kaffeend> Xyc0 then times out
[06:23] <Xyc0> sigh
[06:23] <Xyc0> how are you running it?
[06:23] <glick> i have a question about the word "sic'
[06:23] <darkheart> Hello, I've been trying to get fglrx driver to work but I can't seem to be able to. Right now I am trying to build the fglrx module, but I keep failing with the error 'make[1] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386' make[1] : Makefile: No such file or directory' Can anyone help me out?
[06:23] <nickrud> psurani, then, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 is the sources.list you want to have.
[06:23] <kaffeend> Xyco /home/me/Desktop/armyops/armyops
[06:23] <glick> if someone incorrectly uses sic in a sentance where there is no mistake, wont that cause infinite sic recursion whenever someone quotes that sentance
[06:23] <glick> for example...
[06:24] <glick> This sentance is [sic]  correct.
[06:24] <glick> so if i quoted that it would be  "This sentance is [sic]  [sic]  correct.
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> sounds like somthing some stuffy english major would come up with.
[06:24] <Madpilot> glick: you're mis-spelling sentence, though ;)
[06:24] <glick> and if i qupted that i would need 3 sics
[06:24] <psurani> nickrud, ,do i need to add that into sources.list or i just open that link ?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:24] <kaffeend> lol
[06:24] <Madpilot> besides, the whole idea is just [sic]
[06:25] <psurani> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[06:25] <psurani> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[06:25] <psurani> do i have to add it to sources list and then do update ??
[06:26] <glick> u [sic]  bastard!
[06:26] <glick> hehe
[06:26] <Xyc0> kaffeend: no, you just got lost in the chat room.  You need to use my name to get my attn
[06:26] <Xyc0> kaffeend: In terminal: sh /home/me/Desktop/armyops/armyops
[06:26] <kaffeend> Xyc0 oops - thought I did
[06:27] <bimberi> darkheart: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386
[06:27] <kaffeend> Xyc0 ok
[06:27] <darkheart> bimberi It is already installed
[06:27] <psurani> guys whats libgimp ? and whats gimp ?
[06:28] <starfishy> hm
[06:28] <glick> gnu image manipulation program
[06:28] <Chaotic_Reality> gimp is a graphic manipulation....the unix version of photoshop i guess
[06:28] <kaffeend> Xyc0 same thing, but I think I know what the problem may be...
[06:28] <starfishy> kaffeend: did it work>?
[06:29] <kaffeend> Xyc0 I haven't registered from this computer with Ubuntu on it - just windows
[06:29] <Xyc0> kaffeend: all that means is you are not entering the correct path to the program
[06:29] <psurani> ahh i see
[06:29] <kaffeend> xyc0 but it's the ONLY path
[06:29] <Xyc0> kaffeend: register where?  You have to register?
[06:29] <kaffeend> Xyco I mean to sign up for an account
[06:30] <Xyc0> kaffeend: what account, where?
[06:30] <Xyc0> kaffeend: you can register in wiki.ubuntu.com if you want
[06:30] <Xyc0> !wiki
[06:30] <childe> Can someone help me about my APT?
[06:30] <darkheart> bimberi Is there a way I can find where the xorg-fglrx-driver package is located (ie. which repository)? I've seen it mentioned while trying to get this working.
[06:30] <childe> APT can't authenticate official packages...
[06:30] <Xyc0> kaffeend: try this, try typing the first letter of each directory, then hit tab to complete it
[06:30] <kaffeend> Xyco I mean sign up for an America's Army account (free) to play the game
[06:31] <bimberi> darkheart: You can search on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[06:31] <Xyc0> kaffeend: /home/me/Ar[tab] /ar[tab]
[06:32] <darkheart> bimberi Ahh..too bad. It's not there. I guess it was only for Warty.
[06:32] <bimberi> darkheart: there is xorg-driver-fglrx :)
[06:32] <nickrud> I guess I should look at the initrd more than once ever few years
[06:32] <xnevermore> Hello. Does anyone know how to get dmix to work between multiple users?
[06:33] <darkheart> bimberi Where did you see that? =)
[06:33] <kaffeend> Xyc0 it auto-completed but still same problem timing out in-game
[06:33] <Xyc0> kaffeend: what is th error when it times out
[06:33] <Xyc0> it should say in terminal
[06:33] <bimberi> darkheart: at packages.ubuntu.com (in multiverse)
[06:33] <kaffeend> xyc0 I'll check again... 1 sec please
[06:34] <ksmurf> how in the heck do you remove OS indentificateion (banner?) and postfix ID (banner?)
[06:35] <ksmurf> identifcation
[06:35] <Xyc0> where?
[06:35] <darkheart> bimberi Wow, that sucks. I found it, but every mirror I click on to download it says it can't find it.
[06:35] <ksmurf> On my OS
[06:35] <kaffeend> Xyc0 it says: Xlib:  extension "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:36] <darkheart> bimberi Hmm..I noticed the one I found was in restricted though.
[06:36] <kaffeend> xyc0 brb
[06:36] <bimberi> darkheart: ooh yes - my bad - it is too
[06:37] <Xyc0> ksmurf: what do you mean, on your OS
[06:38] <kaffeend> Xyc0 ok I'm back
[06:38] <bimberi> darkheart: It's working in synaptic for me (I use the au. repos)
[06:38] <bimberi> darkheart: http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_i386.deb
[06:38] <kaffeend> Xyco i didn't see any ads when I went into game - normally there're a few pages of ads I think
[06:39] <bimberi> darkheart: by "working" meaning that I can kick off a download
[06:39] <Xyc0> kaffeend: try running the program the same way but with: sudo sh
[06:39] <glick> ubuntu gnome doesnt include a development tools menu by default :(
[06:39] <kaffeend> Xyc0 instead I just have a black screen which loads into the main menu
[06:39] <kaffeend> Xyc0 ok
[06:40] <darkheart> bimberi Thanks. i got it downloaded...Let's hope it works =\
[06:40] <bimberi> darkheart: yw :) good luck
[06:40] <LivingTarget> I have a question when a game crashes what other options are there (if at all) besides ctrl+alt+f1 / ctrl+alt+bckspace?
[06:40] <Xyc0> kaffeend: if that doesn't work, I think you need to fix your x.org
[06:41] <childe> bimberi: Hi, could you please help me fix  my APT?
[06:42] <bimberi> childe: hi. Possibly but ask the channel, there's lots of smarter people than me here :)
[06:42] <darkheart> bimberi &*$@#%& =\ No luck...I'm not sure what else I have to do.
[06:42] <childe> bimberi: I've asked three times and nobody ansower...
[06:43] <kaffeend> Xyco think I need to fix my xorg now :P
[06:43] <childe> The problem is, my APT can not authenticate any packages
[06:43] <IcemanV9> childe: check this wiki page > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary
[06:44] <childe> IcemanV9: But I think that page is for adding external repositories, right?
[06:44] <Xyc0> kaffeend: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:44] <bimberi> childe: what repositories are you using?
[06:44] <childe> IcemanV9: But my APT can not authenticate even official packages
[06:44] <kaffeend> Xyc0 ok I'll be back...
[06:45] <Xyc0> kaffeend: wait, what no stay here
[06:45] <Xyc0> kaffeend: i need to tell you what to do
[06:45] <childe> bimberi: main, restricted and updates
[06:45] <kaffeend> Xyc0 good thing I'm slow :)
[06:45] <satori101> can someone help me with sound probs on a tecra 8100?
[06:45] <brandon> Hey, I've got a problem getting PHP to work with Apache
[06:46] <bimberi> childe: is there anything between "http://" and "archive.ubuntu.com" in your lines in sources.list?
[06:46] <Xyc0> you need to look for Section "Device"
[06:46] <satori101> running hoary and all i get are scratchy sounds when playback is attempted.
[06:46] <Xyc0> kaffeend: look for Section "Device"
[06:46] <childe> For example, when I "apt-get install vim-gnome", it says The following packages cannot be authenticated
[06:46] <Madpilot> brandon: PHP 4 or 5?
[06:46] <brandon> I installed it in the terminal (sudo apt-get install php4), and it went through all that. Then, I'm trying to run a PHP script, and it's asking me to download it.
[06:46] <brandon> PHP 4
[06:46] <Xyc0> kaffeend: what do you see under that
[06:46] <bienve> #ubuntuusers
[06:46] <childe> bimberi: No.
[06:46] <bienve> ups
[06:47] <Madpilot> brandon: have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:47] <kaffeend> Xyc0 hang on, where's section/device?
[06:47] <brandon> Alright, I'll look there
[06:47] <Xyc0> you need to find those exact words
[06:47] <Xyc0> kaffeend: Control-F
[06:47] <Xyc0> kaffeend: Section "Device"
[06:48] <nickrud> childe, do you have the file /usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg?
[06:48] <childe> Here  is my sources.list http://pastebin.com/331744
[06:49] <Xyc0> kaffeend: are you still there?
[06:49] <childe> nickrud: Yes.
[06:49] <kaffeend> that's not doing anything Xyc0
[06:49] <childe> I used "file" to check that keyring and no error
[06:49] <Xyc0> kaffeend: merg, up exit that, don't save it
[06:50] <Xyc0> kaffeend: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[06:50] <kaffeend> Xyc0 I don't know what you just said to me
[06:50] <Xyc0> kaffeend: exit that window and don't save
[06:50] <kaffeend> Xyc0 ok
[06:51] <nickrud> childe, then try sudo aptitude update, then try installing the files again.
[06:51] <Xyc0> kaffeend: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[06:51] <brandon> Alright, I just removed the version of Apache I had, and installed Apache2, and now it won't let me go to localhost...
[06:52] <childe> nickrud: Wow it worked!
[06:52] <Xyc0> kaffeend: did you do that?
[06:52] <nickrud> low hanging fruit :)
[06:52] <brandon> I'm going to restart and see if it works...hand on...
[06:52] <brandon> *hang
[06:52] <kaffeend> Xyc0 yes
[06:52] <childe> nickrud: But I don't what went wrong...I used synaptic before
[06:52] <childe> Maybe it's a bug of synaptic?
[06:52] <lui> Seveas!
[06:52] <Xyc0> kaffeend: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:53] <Xyc0> kaffeend: hold the control key, hit F
[06:53] <nickrud> childe, there were new files available, but you did not have the proper signatures (you hadn't downloaded the latest info)
[06:53] <Xyc0> kaffeend: in the window that pops up
[06:53] <kaffeend> Xyc0 after I type that? Before I hit enter?
[06:53] <nickrud> not a bug, a feature :)
[06:53] <Xyc0> kaffeend: Section "Device"
[06:53] <childe> nickrud: Yeah, indeed, a feature!
[06:53] <Xyc0> kaffeend: yes, in the little window that pops up
[06:53] <childe> nickrud: But it's confusing...IMHO
[06:54] <arpwatch> Could someone tell me what would be preventing me from sending out mail via postfix?
[06:54] <Xyc0> kaffeend: that will show you where in the document that is
[06:54] <nickrud> childe, well, it's a learned thing
[06:54] <Doomhammer> okay, i hit CTRL+ALT+F2... how do I get back into KDE ? ROFL
[06:54] <Xyc0> kaffeend: what is in that little section
[06:54] <Xyc0> kaffeend: pm that to me
[06:54] <childe> :-)
[06:54] <Doomhammer> how do I switch back to screen 0 ?
[06:55] <arpwatch> I'm getting "Connection timed out" when attemping to send mail via postfix
[06:55] <childe> OK. Then, go back to my ipw2100 wireless card...
[06:55] <Xyc0> Doomhammer: Cntrl-Alt F8
[06:55] <Doomhammer> Xyc0: thanks
[06:55] <brandon> Uh...I restarted, and it still won't let me access localhost
[06:55] <troy__> hey does anyone know howto install the sources for 2.6.10-5-386
[06:55] <bimberi> childe: is that not working?
[06:55] <brandon> It says connection was refused
[06:55] <ksmurf> Xyc0 I mean that my banner show's up on things like ipchicken ( linux kernel 2.6.10-5 ubuntu.... etc ) Is there a way to turn that off or change it to say ... unknown?
[06:55] <childe> bimberi: Yes.
[06:55] <kaffeend> Xyc0 Identifier	"NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700] nVidia geForce FX 5700"
[06:55] <kaffeend> 	Driver		"nvidia"
[06:55] <kaffeend> 	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[06:55] <kaffeend> 	VideoRam	131072
[06:55] <kaffeend> 	Option		"UseFBDev"		"true"
[06:56] <Madpilot> brandon: did you do the rest of the config stuff from the wiki page?
[06:56] <Xyc0> kaffeend: sigh, i told you to pm it to me
[06:56] <troy__> hey does anyone know howto install the sources for 2.6.10-5-386
[06:56] <childe> bimberi: I use the stock drivers in hoary, not the NDIS driver
[06:56] <kaffeend> Xyc0 sorry I missed that in the sea of red
[06:56] <brandon> I looked at all of it...but I guess I could double check. I lost the link when I restarted. Can you give it to me again?
[06:56] <Xyc0> kaffeend: !pastebin
[06:56] <Xyc0> !pastebin
[06:56] <ubotu> [pastebin]  at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[06:56] <bimberi> childe: so do i - works ok on a Dell Inspiron 500m
[06:56] <Doomhammer> wow
[06:56] <benplaut> !download
[06:56] <ubotu> [download]  get Ubuntu LiveCD & install ISOs at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ and if you need information on burning ISOs, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[06:56] <Doomhammer> that sucked :P
[06:57] <childe> Here is a DELL Latitude D600
[06:57] <Xyc0> Doomhammer: what did?
[06:57] <kaffeend> what's pastebin?
[06:57] <Xyc0> !pastebin
[06:57] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[06:57] <kaffeend> Xyc0 what's pastebin?
[06:57] <Doomhammer> Xyc0: switching displays and not knowing how to switch back :P
[06:57] <Doomhammer> Xyc0: BTW, it was CTRL+ALT+F7 :/
[06:57] <Xyc0> Doomhammer: it was F7 sorry
[06:57] <Xyc0> Doomhammer: yea my bad
[06:58] <Madpilot> brandon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:58] <Xyc0> Doomhammer: not enough lights here
[06:58] <brandon> Alright
[06:58] <Madpilot> brandon: and you almost certainly didn't need to restart the whole box just for Apache2 to start up!
[06:59] <kaffeend> Xyc0 I don't know what you want me to do
[07:00] <arpwatch> Anyone that could help me with postfix?
[07:00] <Xyc0> kaffeend: when you paste large chunks of text, use pastebin and send me the link
[07:00] <kaffeend> Xyc0 ok
[07:00] <bluefoxicy> http://woct-blog.blogspot.com/  schweet
[07:00] <kaffeend> Xyco was only 5 lines tho
[07:01] <brandon> I know I didn't have to restart the whole thing, I meant restart the X Server
[07:01] <kaffeend> Xyc0 please remember that I've only been using Linux and IRC for a few days
[07:02] <Doomhammer> kaffeend: pastebin is a website, where you can post some text and then let someone else look at it
[07:02] <kaffeend> Doomhammer thanks
[07:03] <Doomhammer> kaffeend: np -- we were all newbies at some point :)
[07:03] <Xyc0> kaffeend: im not mad, but ubotu will be
[07:03] <Xyc0> !lart kaffeend
[07:03] <Doomhammer> :O
[07:03] <Doomhammer> lol
[07:03] <arpwatch> hehe
[07:03] <kaffeend> ubotu you can have my mojo
[07:03] <ubotu> kaffeend: No idea
[07:04] <Xyc0> ha ha ha ha
[07:04] <Doomhammer> lol
[07:04] <arpwatch> ubotu I need postfix help
[07:04] <ubotu> arpwatch: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:04] <arpwatch> yes
[07:04] <Xyc0> ubotu: what is the meaning of life?
[07:04] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, Xyc0
[07:04] <arpwatch> unhelpful bot
[07:04] <Doomhammer> rofl
[07:04] <Doomhammer> you guys need to pro
[07:04] <Amaranth> ubotu: what is smeg?
[07:04] <ubotu> Amaranth: what are you talking about?
[07:04] <Amaranth> damn :P
[07:04] <arpwatch> smegma?
[07:04] <Doomhammer> program it to say "42" when asked "what is the meaning of life" ;)
[07:04] <Xyc0> !smeg
[07:04] <ubotu> rumour has it, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[07:05] <Doomhammer> ROFL
[07:05] <arpwatch> oh
[07:05] <IcemanV9> does Totem have captioning feature/option??
[07:05] <Amaranth> Xyc0: (i wrote it)
[07:05] <Xyc0> Amaranth: I know, i didn't know if it knew that tho
[07:05] <arpwatch> I don't suppose any of you guys could help me with postfix? It's irritating the hell out of me and google isn't giving me the answers I need
[07:05] <Amaranth> ah
[07:05] <Amaranth> i thought you were trying to help me :)
[07:05] <Xyc0> Amaranth: gj btw, the new one works so much better
[07:05] <Amaranth> postfix? people use that?
[07:05] <Madpilot> ubotu meaning of life is 42
[07:05] <ubotu> okay, Madpilot
[07:06] <Madpilot> !meaning of life
[07:06] <ubotu> methinks meaning of life is 42
[07:06] <arpwatch> Amaranth, what else should I use? :P
[07:06] <Madpilot> there we go.
[07:06] <kaffeend> how do I send a pm in here?
[07:06] <arpwatch> sendmail?
[07:06] <Amaranth> arpwatch: gmail :)
[07:06] <arpwatch> bah!
[07:06] <Madpilot> kaffeend: /msg <user> <msg>
[07:06] <Xyc0> kaffeend: /msg Xyc0 hi
[07:06] <arpwatch> but I really want to know :(
[07:07] <arpwatch> I have an email account, but when I try to send from here to my account its a no go
[07:07] <arpwatch> but I can send locally
[07:07] <Xyc0> ubotu: what is meaning of life?
[07:07] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, Xyc0
[07:07] <Amaranth> it's supposed to be able to parse that
[07:07] <Amaranth> ubotu: what is smeg
[07:07] <ubotu> Amaranth: I think you lost me on that one
[07:07] <benplaut> !download
[07:07] <ubotu> [download]  get Ubuntu LiveCD & install ISOs at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ and if you need information on burning ISOs, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[07:07] <Amaranth> stupid thing
[07:07] <benplaut> woops
[07:08] <Amaranth> ubotu: Amaranth: is this is a test
[07:08] <Madpilot> Amaranth: is ubotu supposed to be able to parse "what is' as well as just "!"?
[07:08] <ubotu> Amaranth: okay
[07:08] <Amaranth> Madpilot: i though
[07:08] <Amaranth> err, thought
[07:08] <Amaranth> ubotu: Amaranth:
[07:08] <ubotu> amaranth: is probably this is a test
[07:08] <geneo93> need some help with tape drive
[07:08] <Amaranth> bah
[07:08] <Amaranth> ok, no more playing with the bot
[07:09] <toresbe> pixie: Yeah, that's cause I moved my stream, it's at http://toresbe.homelinux.org:8000/stream.ogg.m3u atm
[07:09] <toresbe> oops, EWINDOW
[07:09] <guardianx> can i get tv out to work in ubuntu  live cd??
[07:09] <Doomhammer> ubotu: what is irssi?
[07:09] <ubotu> Doomhammer: what are you talking about?
[07:09] <Doomhammer> LOL
[07:09] <Doomhammer> it doesn't even know what IRSSI is
[07:09] <crimsun> !info irssi
[07:09] <Xyc0> guardianx: wow you are asking alot of Live-Ubuntu
[07:09] <Doomhammer> !info irssi
[07:09] <crimsun> !info irssi-text
[07:09] <ubotu> irssi-text: (text-mode version of the irssi IRC client), section net, is optional. Version: 0.8.9-1ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 779 kB, Installed size: 2520 kB
[07:10] <Doomhammer> aah
[07:10] <Doomhammer> !info links2
[07:10] <ubotu> links2: (Web browser running in both graphics and text mode), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.1pre15-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 1932 kB, Installed size: 3096 kB
[07:10] <Xyc0> Does Kipponix use TV-Out?
[07:10] <troy__> links2 seems buggy to me
[07:10] <troy__> i use links
[07:10] <Doomhammer> troy__: i hardly ever use it, so meh
[07:10] <arpwatch> !info postfix
[07:10] <ubotu> postfix: (A high-performance mail transport agent), section mail, is important. Version: 2.1.5-9ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 772 kB, Installed size: 1892 kB
[07:10] <psurani> guys how to install RTFM FFS
[07:10] <psurani> oops sorry
[07:11] <arpwatch> bleh
[07:11] <psurani> guys how to install bangexec-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.bz2
[07:11] <psurani> ???
[07:11] <troy__> well im in a terminal right now
[07:11] <troy__> working on nvidia drivers
[07:11] <troy__> so i apt-get 'd links
[07:11] <troy__> to look at stuff
[07:11] <troy__> :p
[07:12] <psurani> guys how to install bangexec-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.bz2
[07:13] <jtan325> psurani, tar xvjf bangexec....
[07:14] <jtan325> then cd to directory
[07:14] <jtan325> and usually it's
[07:14] <jtan325> ./configure
[07:14] <jtan325> then sudo make
[07:14] <jtan325> then sudo make install
[07:14] <troy__> well im off
[07:14] <troy__> i got it to work
[07:14] <troy__> americas army time!!
[07:14] <Doomhammer> troy__: in linux ?
[07:14] <troy__> (800fps glxgears yay)
[07:14] <troy__> yes
[07:14] <troy__> in linux
[07:14] <Doomhammer> troy__: i've gotta get that setup... i got ut2004 and doom3 running
[07:15] <nightmaster> hello
[07:15] <arpwatch> So, no help with sendmail or postfix?
[07:15] <Doomhammer> hiya nightmaster
[07:15] <troy__> what vidcard?
[07:15] <troy__> i got geforce 2 go
[07:15] <nightmaster> how r u mr hammer
[07:15] <Doomhammer> troy__: ATI Radeon 9800 PRO
[07:15] <troy__> ah
[07:15] <Doomhammer> nightmaster: good, yourself ?
[07:15] <troy__> ati flgr
[07:15] <nightmaster> decent
[07:25] <dbernar1> hi
[07:26] <arpwatch> why oh why does ./configure not run properly....
[07:26] <dbernar1> arpwatch: is that a question?
[07:27] <arpwatch> wow, will you help me?
[07:27] <arpwatch> yeah it was :P
[07:27] <arpwatch> I try to ./configure xmms and it says no acceptable c compiler found in $PATH
[07:27] <dbernar1> ok, well, you gotta do better than that, to get an answer. Everyone here would like to help you. Just we dont know squat;) but, if you put it in a good enough way, more often than not, people will mknow what to do.
[07:27] <arpwatch> which I have never experienced before as every other distro always lets ./configure go fine
[07:27] <Doomhammer> arpwatch: you don't have the C compiler installed... you need to apt-get install gcc
[07:28] <arpwatch> !
[07:28] <ubotu> arpwatch: Are you smoking crack?
[07:28] <nickrud> arpwatch, try doing apt-get install build-essential gaim-dev
[07:28] <arpwatch> I just did an apt get earlier today, what gives
[07:28] <dbernar1> install build-essential why would someone compile xmms?
[07:28] <Myrtti> indeed
[07:28] <Myrtti> my question exactly
[07:28] <arpwatch> dbernar1, I couldn't find a binary
[07:28] <Myrtti> sudo apt-get install xmms?
[07:28] <arpwatch> I haven't used linux in 7 years man, give me a break :(
[07:28] <dbernar1> yeah, you get as many breaks as you need.
[07:29] <arpwatch> wow, thanks Myrtti
[07:29] <nickrud> heh, older question :)
[07:29] <dbernar1> ya that worked?
[07:29] <arpwatch> yeah
[07:29] <Myrtti> lol
[07:29] <dbernar1> great.
[07:29] <Myrtti> sorry
[07:29] <dbernar1> check this out, arpwatch go System>Admin>Synaptic
[07:29] <arpwatch> I'm used to slackware and just ./configure make make install, not this apt get stuff
[07:30] <arpwatch> !
[07:30] <ubotu> arpwatch: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[07:30] <dbernar1> get acquainted to that synaptic program, very cool stuff. use the search function to find stuff.
[07:30] <arpwatch> thanks awesome dbernar1
[07:30] <arpwatch> er thats awesome
[07:30] <arpwatch> :)
[07:30] <dbernar1> ya, thank the ones that made it:)
[07:30] <arpwatch> how do you delete files again? rm -Rf directorynamehere    ?
[07:31] <dbernar1> anyhow, I live in winnipeg, canada, and I just went to this thing called folkloraa.
[07:31] <dbernar1> folklorama, and they were dancing ethnic dances, prety cool.
[07:31] <dbernar1> arpwatch: well, you can delete the files using the file manager.
[07:31] <dbernar1> nautilus is what it is called. DO you have a places menu on the top of your screen?
[07:32] <arpwatch> ah yeah I forget about file managers on here, heh
[07:32] <nickrud> dbernar1, local dances, or everyone doing their own?
[07:32] <arpwatch> Linux is so much nicer than it was a decade ago, heh
[07:33] <dbernar1> also, files that are not yours, you need to erase as root. Ubuntu does not have a root account. wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo talks about this. We use sudo to give root privileges to commands.
[07:33] <arpwatch> yeah ubuntu install scared me when it didn't prompt me to enter a root pw
[07:33] <dbernar1> nickrud: each country that organizes/region has their own pavillion, in which they dance their countries' dances, make food, and cakes.
[07:33] <arpwatch> not sure I really like having to sudo all the time
[07:34] <apprentice> Ecuador?
[07:34] <nickrud> ah, food, I'll watch anyone dance if they feed me :)
[07:34] <dbernar1> read that wiki page to learn about the diffs, and how it works, and how to enable a root account should you choose to do so.
[07:34] <iiiears> Hello Ubuntu-ans :)
[07:34] <nickrud> iiiears, hey,
[07:34] <dbernar1> nickrud: well, they get money in return for feeding you..I went to my countrie's, Croatia folklorama tonight.
[07:34] <iiiears> Hi nickrud :)
[07:34] <dbernar1> hey, iiiears
[07:35] <nickrud> bleh
[07:35] <dbernar1> I went to SLovakia+Czech republisc las saunday, and I also went to indochina chinese.
[07:35] <nickrud> well, I'll pay to watch pretty women dance :)
[07:35] <dbernar1> Yeah, its pretty cute, and cool.
[07:35] <impact_hammer> hello
[07:35] <dbernar1> Nice festival.
[07:35] <dbernar1> hi.
[07:35] <Kanbeki> can someone show me an example for symlinks
[07:35] <impact_hammer> i need a bit of help
[07:36] <iiiears> finished an "installrite" file integrity check on my windows machine. - no surprises - altered dlls again.- lol
[07:36] <dbernar1> Kanbeki: for creating one?
[07:36] <Kanbeki> I need to create a symlink between two exes for wine
[07:36] <nickrud> Kanbeki, ln -s ~/.bashrc ~/.gnomerc, for exampel (not one I'd do, though)
[07:36] <dbernar1> Kanbeki: man ln should give youthat info. n -s source destination I think.
[07:36] <Kanbeki> ok
[07:36] <Kanbeki> thanks
[07:36] <dbernar1> Kanbeki: man ln should give youthat info. ln -s source destination I think.
[07:36] <dbernar1> welcome.
[07:36] <dbernar1> impact_hammer: typing?
[07:37] <kaffeend> I have a TGZ folder here - can anyone please tell me what to do with it?
[07:37] <dbernar1> .tgz?
[07:37] <iiiears> Vista will be more secure. - promises Bill Gates. - Uhuh lol
[07:37] <kaffeend> dbernar1 yes
[07:37] <dbernar1> its a "zip" archive.
[07:37] <impact_hammer> hey im tryin 2 find out my root password so i can edit my grub config files
[07:37] <dbernar1> impact_hammer: no root by default in ubuntu, wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo will tell you more abnout that.
[07:37] <iiiears> impacthammer ubuntuguide.org
[07:38] <kaffeend> dbernar1 ok so I just extract it wherever then?
[07:38] <impact_hammer> thanx
[07:38] <nickrud> impact_hammer, sudo gedit /boot/grub.lst, then enter your user password when asked
[07:38] <dbernar1> kaffeend: wherever you want the files, or wherever your computer needs them, yes.
[07:38] <hyphenated> impact_hammer: sudo editorprogram /path/to/file
[07:38] <dbernar1> kaffeend: are you installing something?
[07:38] <kaffeend> dbernar1 ok thanks
[07:38] <iiiears> Had the impression he set a grub password.
[07:38] <dbernar1> welcome.
[07:38] <dbernar1> maybe...
[07:39] <nocloud> does anybody here know how to change my AIM profile in kopete?
[07:39] <duncanm> is there a prepackaged version of gtkpod?
[07:39] <dbernar1> not likely, it is more likely connected to AIM, try doing it online.
[07:39] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[07:39] <duncanm> i can't find one for 0.94
[07:39] <kaffeend> dberna1 yes cedega
[07:39] <dbernar1> !info gtkpod tells you this. Try using /msg ubotu info gtkpod
[07:40] <duncanm> Version: 0.88-1 (hoary), i'm looking for 0.94
[07:40] <dbernar1> kaffeend: good luck:) #cedega also.
[07:40] <nocloud>  HrdwrBoB: were you replying yes to my question about AIM profiles?
[07:40] <HrdwrBoB> nocloud: no
[07:40] <kaffeend> ok thanks dberna1
[07:40] <Trilobite> i was in here earlier asking about the live cd, well now i've got that up and running and managed to connect to the internet with it (w00t!), does anyone know if its inability to get anything better than 640x480 resolution is because the live cd has reduced monitor support, or because ubuntu in general doesn't like my screen?
[07:40] <dbernar1> looked at backports, or breezy repos?
[07:40] <nocloud> :(
[07:41] <gpd> Anyone know how to patch Call of Duty to 1.5 ... seems to not find the cd key (despite it being there for v1.0)
[07:41] <duncanm> dbernar1: i think i have backports in my sources.list, not there either
[07:41] <Myrtti> Trilobite: I put my money on the latter
[07:41] <Kanbeki> Uh..Wine is giving me this error for Warcraft III: ROC 1.18 with a retail cd err:module:import_dll Library OPENGL32.dll
[07:41] <Trilobite> arh
[07:41] <dbernar1> nocloud: not likely, it is more likely connected to AIM, try doing it online.
[07:41] <Kanbeki> I am using  xorg-fglrx drivers if it makes any difference
[07:41] <gpd> I tried to rsync from my windows install but it broke everything
[07:41] <arpwatch> dbernar1, now if I give you all I know about why my postfix won't send messages, can you help me there as well?
[07:42] <dbernar1> wtf postfix?
[07:42] <arpwatch> what else can I send email from my computer with? I don't think sendmail is on here
[07:42] <dbernar1> no, I am asking what it is, sorry, dunno
[07:42] <nickrud> exim, arpwatch
[07:42] <arpwatch> oh
[07:42] <arpwatch> k nick
[07:43] <nickrud> It'll break ubuntu base, but I've used a for a while
[07:43] <nocloud>  dbernar1: what do you mean by "doing it online" ?
[07:43] <arpwatch> break it eh? why does it come with postfix then if it doesn't work "out of the box" ?
[07:44] <dabaR> gtkpod: (manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod), section universe/sound, is extra. Version: 0.93.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 443 kB, bla bla...
[07:44] <kaffeend> is #cedega full of bots?
[07:44] <kaffeend> is there a way to ask a question or something?
[07:44] <dabaR> nocloud: like, looking up your profile through google, or aim.com, and there will be a function to moduify it most likely.
[07:44] <dabaR> kaffeend: no idea, I dont play games:(
[07:45] <dabaR> ok, I am going to bed, I think.
[07:45] <Trilobite> is there any information on the wiki or somewhere about monitor support and known problems with particular models? (mine is a pretty normal dell one)
[07:45] <benplaut> 'night
[07:45] <arpwatch> What are the consequences of breaking the ubuntu-base?
[07:45] <dabaR> Trilobite: /msg ubotu fixres
[07:46] <dabaR> benplaut: yep, thanks.
[07:46] <Trilobite> thanks
[07:47] <nickrud> arpwatch, ubuntu-base is a list of packages that ubuntu uses to provide basic functionality (like mail). If you use something
[07:47] <cayne1> heya
[07:47] <benplaut> hi
[07:47] <cayne1> has anyone had problems with wine in ubuntu
[07:47] <cayne1> worked fine in kubuntu
[07:48] <nickrud> outside that list (and therefore removing the master list) if the master list changes, you miss out on the change.
[07:48] <kaffeend> how do I run a .deb file please?
[07:48] <arpwatch> wow, so it really fubars my apt get abilities then?
[07:48] <nickrud> Not a disaster
[07:48] <Kanbeki> cayne1, I've had nothing but problems with wine
[07:49] <h08817> ok
[07:49] <nickrud> arpwatch, no, apt-get is what lets you get what you want if you thing the master list is not quite right
[07:49] <duncanm> what's the deal? libfaac-dev: Depends: libfaac0 (= 1.24-0.0) but 1.24-0.3 is to be installed
[07:49] <nickrud> s/thing/think
[07:49] <iiiears> 6 flaws recently uncovered in the linux kernel. patches available. windows XP 65k flaws and still counting. - Anyone willing to try Windows Vista? - lol
[07:49] <cayne1> Kanbeki...i got it to run mirc with invision a couple of days ago...now with a fresh install. i can't
[07:49] <arpwatch> ah,
[07:49] <h08817> any reason why my ubuntu system locks completely up sometimes and i have to hit the powerswitch?
[07:49] <duncanm> jdub: hey?
[07:49] <jdub> hi duncanm
[07:50] <Kanbeki> cayne1, I had it running Warcraft III and now suddenly I'm getting an OpenGL error
[07:50] <kaffeend> h08817 mine does it too, but it's my fault apparently
[07:50] <jbloudg20> hey can anyone help me to install fluxbox?
[07:50] <kaffeend> how do I run a .deb file please?
[07:50] <h08817> kaffeend, what did u do?
[07:50] <cayne1> what irc client are most people using
[07:50] <dabaR> kaffeend: a deb file is to be insatlled. if you are sure you want to install this particular file, you do sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[07:50] <h08817> kaffeend, isn't it the dpkg command
[07:50] <kaffeend> h08817 I dunno but the software is perfect apparently
[07:50] <bimberi> kaffeend: dpkg -i foo.deb
[07:50] <h08817> hmm
[07:51] <kaffeend> dabar thanks
[07:51] <dabaR> cayne1: I think xchat. irssi is what I use, also some use bitchX, and others, like gaim.
[07:51] <duncanm> jdub: are you reading priv. messages?
[07:51] <h08817> well thanks for the support now i know it isn't only me
[07:51] <nocloud> do you guys get a nasty clicking noise from the hard drive when you guys shut down?
[07:51] <Madpilot> nocloud: clicking noises from hard drives are rarely good news...
[07:51] <apprentice> no i dont
[07:51] <benplaut> nocloud: nope... sounds like the moving peices inside are failing
[07:52] <supernix> hi anyone using Mozilla mail ?
[07:52] <apprentice> nop
[07:52] <dabaR> jbloudg20: more than sudo aptitude install fluxbox?
[07:52] <jbloudg20> is that all I have to do?
[07:52] <dabaR> duncanm: dont pm people. check this out, tho... /join #flood and then /exec -o cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:53] <nocloud> well, this is weird...i don't get that noise when i shut down from windows....
[07:53] <dabaR> jbloudg20: should be.
[07:53] <nocloud> the hard drive only clicks when shutting down in linux
[07:53] <jbloudg20> "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "fluxbox"
[07:53] <jbloudg20> "
[07:53] <kaffeend> well, I've done something wrong again - it's not installing cedega
[07:53] <dabaR> h08817: when does this thing lock up, do you do anything, and so on.
[07:54] <arpwatch> nickrud, shouldn't exim automagically send my queued mail, or is there something I should perform?  I'm having the same problem that I did with postfix
[07:54] <nickrud> arpwatch, they keep different queues, for one.
[07:54] <iiiears> !xwindows
[07:54] <ubotu> I guess xwindows is not it's name! It's either "X" or "X Window System", see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System#Nomenclature
[07:55] <arpwatch> the mail just sits in my queue until it says "Connection timed out"
[07:55] <iiiears> hm - that was helpful.
[07:55] <arpwatch> different queues, I just use "mailq" for everything
[07:55] <dabaR> no cloud, mine makes one clicking sound, not many
[07:55] <arpwatch> should I use something else?
[07:55] <dabaR> nocloud, mine makes one clicking sound, not many
[07:55] <dabaR> jbloudg20: /msg ubotu info fluxbox
[07:56] <nickrud> arpwatch, I use exim for the debconf scripting: it asks for a smarthost, I give it, add a password (I'd have to look that up again) and mail works.
[07:56] <kaffeend> dabaR I couldn't install that .deb file with sudo dpkg -i etc..
[07:56] <nocloud> i get one click too....
[07:56] <nocloud> its rather loud
[07:56] <nocloud> and sounds nasty
[07:56] <glick> excuse me how can i set it up so that the user cant shutdown the computer from gnome or anyplace else without putting the sudo password
[07:56] <glick> ?
[07:56] <nocloud> and windows doesn't do it....
[07:56] <nickrud> postfix always jerked me around in redhat and lfs
[07:56] <HrdwrBoB> glick: system-> logout
[07:56] <HrdwrBoB> selet shutdown
[07:56] <dabaR> what error kaffeend, did you try sudo dpkg, or just dpkg?
[07:56] <nocloud> hard drives are mechanical....grrr...even one click can't be good
[07:57] <iiiears> Smorgasbord of window managers for "The X Windows System"http://www.plig.org/xwinman/
[07:57] <dabaR> universe/ is where it is, jbloudg20, that means you need to add universe to sources.list. /msg ubotu addingrepositories
[07:57] <glick> HrdwrBoB, i want the person to have to enter the password to be able to shutdown the machine
[07:57] <kaffeend> dabar I tried sudo dpkg and got: Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:57] <kaffeend>  /home/me/Cedega-4.2.1-DEB.3282285.TPB/cedega_4.2.1-1_i386.deb
[07:57] <dabaR> jbloudg20: actually [repositories]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:58] <arpwatch> nickrud, I'm kind of lost in the whole debain thing, do I need to run a configure on exim before it works?
[07:58] <dabaR> kaffeend:  best place to ask is #cedega, I think, no idea why you would get that.
[07:58] <supernix> hi anyone know how to fix the problem with Mozilla Mail & News ?
[07:58] <jbloudg20> ok ill give that a try
[07:58] <jbloudg20> thanks
[07:58] <kaffeend> dabar nobody answers in there - it's a ghost town
[07:58] <arpwatch> running "exim4" just spits some junk at me
[07:58] <dabaR> nocloud: mine did not in win neither, but does this since warty, and in debian, I think, I never shut down debian:)
[07:58] <iiiears> ubotu forget xwindows
[07:58] <ubotu> i forgot xwindows, iiiears
[07:59] <kaffeend> dabaR I do have a 64 bit system btw
[07:59] <ray_> anyone familiar with xfce?
[07:59] <dabaR> kaffeend: it is called patience:P
[07:59] <benplaut> ray_: somewhat...
[07:59] <kaffeend> whatever
[07:59] <dabaR> kaffeend: just wait there, or something, or ask here again, I really dont know about that package...
[07:59] <ray_> benplaut, do you know how to get things to start when xfce starts?
[08:00] <glick> is there anyway i can make it so the user cant shutdown the machine?
[08:00] <benplaut> ray_: nope :P
[08:00] <nocloud>  dabaR: did the click occur in previous versions of ubuntu?
[08:00] <iiiears> ubotu xwinman is Freedom of choice. Window managers for "The X Windows System"http://www.plig.org/xwinman/
[08:00] <ubotu> okay, iiiears
[08:00] <benplaut> that's one of the main reasons i stopped using it
[08:00] <dabaR> supernix: oh, you mean *the* problem with that, oh yeah, sure I know how to fix "the problem" :P
[08:00] <nickrud> arpwatch, hm, I'd suggest what I'm using now, cuz I'm too lazy to look all that stuff up again: evolution, and have it get and drop mail. Sometimes I regret dropping my debian install, because I did this stuff once and it worked forever.
[08:01] <supernix> dabaR: anyone that knows anything about the mozilla issue will know the answer
[08:01] <glick> also how can i edit my gnome menu
[08:01] <dabaR> there is a mozilla issue?
[08:01] <supernix> Yes
[08:01] <supernix> I just installed it
[08:01] <dabaR> glick: smeg. /msg ubotu smeg
[08:02] <supernix> and it can't find the xul file I think messenger.xul was it
[08:02] <arpwatch> nickrud, ok I do use evolution as well for my general email account, but in redhat 5.1  I could use sendmail to send mail directly from the console somehow
[08:02] <dabaR> supernix: and it has a message on the title bar, find out about the mozilla problem with ubuntu?
[08:02] <iiiears> glick - your gnome applications menu? - amaranth's "smeg" simple menu editor for gnome.
[08:02] <supernix> it wont start
[08:02] <glick> iiiears, i have to to install smeg?
[08:03] <dabaR> iiiears: now with magical system menu editing capabilities..:)
[08:03] <monsterror> Can someone help me install IRSSI? I tried apt-get but it says the package isn't available.
[08:03] <iiiears> It's a very handy app.
[08:03] <dabaR> glick: no, you dont have to...
[08:03] <iiiears> Awesome. (yep, californian. - lol)
[08:03] <dabaR> monsterror: did you try irssi in a terminal?
[08:03] <glick> isnt there a simple way to do it through gnome? why do i need a third party app to edit my menus?
[08:03] <monsterror> No I didnt, and that would be my problem.
[08:03] <aru> monsterror: it was already installed here
[08:04] <dabaR> there is in some installations of the gnome menu, like the warty one, or the debian sarge one.
[08:04] <aaronc> lo
[08:04] <dabaR> not the hoary one, tho, glick .
[08:04] <aaronc> how do I change the keyboard layout in the terminal
[08:04] <aaronc> ?
[08:04] <direwolf> yo
[08:04] <dabaR> haha, good stuff that monsterror.
[08:04] <arpwatch> :)
[08:04] <direwolf> layered tech, stop
[08:05] <benplaut> !xfce
[08:05] <ubotu> xfce is probably a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4". http://www.xfce.org/