[11:58] <Bazzi> ome_: thats what the /etc/apt/sources.list file is for
[11:58] <CrippsFX> dooglus, there are separate windows update and office updates
[11:58] <xinel> dooglus, i have the final release, but i still can't get networking to work
[11:58] <Warbo> dooglus: There is a fine line between what is free (as in beer) microsoft software and what isn't. For example, is media player free because you can download it, or is it part of 99 windows OS?
[11:58] <Frogzoo> dooglus: that's serious monopolistic anti trust abuse m8
[11:58] <Bassetts> wow, dooglus is a busy guy
[11:59] <ome_> ok ive installed a couple things in terminal and tried some others without success.. How do i open up extra sources?
[11:59] <dooglus> Bassetts: heh, I'm not.  you think I'm gonna *read* all that? ;)
[11:59] <Bazzi> ome_: use "gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:59] <ome_> ok how do i use source.list?
[11:59] <ome_> nm
[11:59] <Warbo> ome_: To add sources you can do it in Synaptic or edit the file /etc/apt/soures.list
[11:59] <NET||abuse> can anyone help me authenticate on my proxy for apt ??
[11:59] <victor__> server localhost
[11:59] <Bassetts> Warbo: like you can download internet explorer for *free*, but the EULA says you have to own a windows license
[11:59] <Bazzi> ome_: add the line "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main" to it
[11:59] <wahjava> hi channel
[11:59] <NET||abuse> i run elinks and it's auth'd ok and mozilla,, but apt won't authenticate??
[11:59] <dooglus> NET||abuse: just a moment...
[12:00] <ome_> gonna run that line, br
[12:00] <ome_> brb
[12:00] <Warbo> Bassetts: Well, I've read the XP home edition licence, but that took about 6 weeks, so I can never be bothered to read any more :)
[12:00] <wahjava> Can anybody help me setup my scanner on Ubuntu Breezy
[12:00] <Bassetts> Warbo: i have never read any, I just read people complaining about it on the internet
[12:00] <wahjava> it is HPLJ3050 Multifunctional Device
[12:00] <wahjava> :-S
[12:00] <Bassetts> Warbo: I only trust the complaints if they back them up, and this guy quoted the paragraph that said it
[12:00] <dooglus> NET||abuse: you do it in apt.conf - see "man apt.conf" for the gory details.  are you good with man pages?
[12:01] <ome_> got rejected  when using this gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:01] <NET||abuse> dooglus, ahh, yeh, just getting to where it needs to be set is the trick,,, man is fine once you know what ot man
[12:01] <ome_> none of the protocols supported
[12:01] <Warbo> Bassetts: Well I was reading it side-by-side with a "human-readable" version which condensed every 3 paragraphs into about one line
[12:02] <wahjava> sane-find-scanner detects USB scanner
[12:02] <cromo> Is direct rendering with r300 series ATI disabled by default? I get  unable to find driver: r300_dri.so error with LIBGL_DEBUG=1 glxinfo
[12:02] <dooglus> NET||abuse: even better, just put this line into ~/.xprofile:
[12:02] <ome_> GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[12:02] <ome_> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[12:02] <dooglus> NET||abuse: export http_proxy=http://username:password@hostname:port/
[12:02] <NET||abuse> dooglus, well it's only when i'm in work,,, i have to turn this off once i'm at home.
[12:02] <Bassetts> Warbo: Licenses are stupid neway, "you and/or any other person nearby may not jump up and down, left to right, or any other direction while in use of *product name*"
[12:02] <Warbo> Is anyone here familiar with the workings of the ubuntulooks gtk engine? I can't get the scrollbars right
[12:02] <dooglus> NET||abuse: with correct values for those 4 strings
[12:02] <Bazzi> ome_: but you started it in console?
[12:02] <KenSentMe> Anyone got the gdesklets for lm-sensors running? I've installed lm-sensors and when i run sensors i can see results, but the gdesklets show nothing.
[12:02] <ome_> i looged in to root then typed that
[12:03] <KenSentMe> void^: btw, didn't see your answer earlier, but the configuration worked
[12:03] <ome_> i used terminal and first i typed su
[12:03] <dooglus> NET||abuse: ok, so do something like:  if [[ $location == work ] ] ; export ...; fi
[12:03] <Bazzi> uh, for gksu you must be in gui mode
[12:03] <dooglus> NET||abuse: and set $location based on IP address, or however else you can tell
[12:03] <Bazzi> ooo no
[12:03] <Warbo> Bassetts: What annoys me is stuff like "You, your family, friends, pets, aquaintances, employers, employees or any other persons" If they include "any other persons" why don't they ONLY include that?
[12:03] <Bazzi> use it from your normal user in gui mode :)
[12:03] <dooglus> NET||abuse: can you send private messages?
[12:04] <ome_> k
[12:04] <Bassetts> Warbo: What annoys me is the whole damn license =P
[12:04] <Warbo> Bassetts: :)
[12:04] <Bassetts> Warbo: after reading it you WANT to break it, to get out of the boredom
[12:05] <cromo> anyone can please tell me if the direct rendering has been removed from freedesktop's ati driver in dapper?
[12:05] <ome_> same thing happened bazzi
[12:05] <Warbo> Bassetts: If you read it and understand it then you find yourself looking for loopholes :)
[12:05] <ome_> you mean in terminal right?
[12:05] <Bazzi> yeah
[12:05] <ome_> yah same message
[12:05] <farous> cromo: i have direct rendering here on my ati card
[12:05] <farous> cromo: free drivers radeon
[12:06] <Bassetts> Warbo: lol, dont tempt me =P
[12:06] <Bazzi> try sudo instead of gksu
[12:06] <Frogzoo> besides, just because you're running wine, doesn't actually mean you don't have a valid doze license - it frequently comes bundled *cough* 'free'
[12:06] <cromo> farous: I guess you own some older card (r200 series or lower).
[12:06] <Hit3k> Whats the program for virtual machines?
[12:06] <Hit3k> Cedega?
[12:06] <farous> cromo: yap 9600
[12:06] <Frogzoo> Hit3k: qemu/kqemu/xen/vmware
[12:07] <xinel> so does anybody know how to get the intel pro 3954 to work in dapper?
[12:07] <Frogzoo> Hit3k: but if you mean a win32 implementation that runs on linux - wine/xover office/cedega
[12:07] <Hit3k> Frogzoo, nah i meant vmware i wasnt sure if it was a linux thing or only a windows thing
[12:07] <ome_> ok im inside source.list
[12:08] <Warbo> Frogzoo: I reformatted a basic Wiki page on VMWare and made sure to include a note about windows licenses. From reading the XP home licence I know that you are allowed to install XP on one computer, and install it on another if you remove it from the first, but virtual computers are not mentioned. I don't know whether having a dual-boot system and also installing XP on VMWare in the Ubuntu system would be legal, as they are b
[12:08] <Bazzi> ome_ so add the line "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main" to it at the bottom and save
[12:08] <Frogzoo> Warbo: read the qemu docs - they seem to think the license covers only 1 install, vms included
[12:09] <Bassetts> Warbo: i just rang up MS when it complained i used the key too many times, they just gave me a new one...
[12:10] <Warbo> Frogzoo: I just put "ask the Microsoft corporation whether they would prosecute you" and made sure to put a note underneath that there are no such restrictions when running a Free OS in it :)
[12:10] <Frogzoo> Warbo: and I doubt m$ would allow multiple vms all running off one license
[12:10] <Frogzoo> Warbo: though it might be fun to try :)
[12:10] <Bazzi> Why should MS allow you that? I license, I install.
[12:10] <KenSentMe> When i try to configure a temp gdesklets, the configuration menu won't show up. Anyone know why?
[12:10] <Bazzi> Fair game.
[12:10] <Bazzi> s/I/1/
[12:10] <Warbo> Bazzi: But it says 1 license 1 computer
[12:11] <Frogzoo> KenSentMe: right click the applet
[12:11] <noiesmo> isn't it one license one computer
[12:11] <Bazzi> A VM is another computer.
[12:11] <noiesmo> hardware
[12:11] <Warbo> Bazzi: Is it? It would depend on the lawyers :)
[12:11] <Bazzi> is it said in the license that they mean a hardware piece?
[12:11] <Seveas> Bazzi, Warbo => #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:11] <KenSentMe> Frogzoo: i know, but that doesn't work, i can right click and click configure, but nothing happens. This is only with the lm-sensors gedesklets
[12:11] <Seveas> please keep this channel for ubuntu support
[12:12] <Warbo> Seveas: Sorry
[12:12] <Bazzi> Seveas :(
[12:12] <Frogzoo> Bazzi: only in twisted legalese - it's one cpu & only ever executing one copy at a time (while the others are in wait)
[12:12] <KenSentMe> Frogzoo: when lm-sensors wasn't yet configured i could run configuration for the gdesklets
[12:12] <Bassetts> whats the command to run xserver setup?
[12:13] <Seveas> Bassetts, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:13] <Frogzoo> !xorg
[12:13] <ubotu> [xorg]  To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[12:13] <ome_> added the line
[12:13] <Bassetts> cheers
[12:13] <weedar> When sharing a printer via CUPS does the client also need to have the printer-driver locally?
[12:14] <Bazzi> ome_: run "sudo aptitude update" and "sudo aptitude install wine wine-dev" afterwards. zing, you got the latest wine version :)
[12:14] <Frogzoo> weedar: nope
[12:14] <ome_> wow awesome and easy
[12:15] <Bassetts> wish photoshop would run in wine =(
[12:15] <Bassetts> instead i have xp in vmserver just to run photoshop
[12:16] <Frogzoo> !tell Bassetts about appdb
[12:16] <ome_> bazzi you get my msg?
[12:16] <Bassetts> Frogzoo: seen that
[12:17] <Bassetts> photoshop doesnt look like its running anytime soon
[12:17] <Bazzi> pm? or what? didnt got anything besides <ome_> wow awesome and easy
[12:17] <ome_> yah a pm
[12:17] <ome_> didnt want to spam error msg in main
[12:17] <Bazzi> got no pm =(
[12:17] <Frogzoo> Bassetts: pretty sure there have been versions that ran
[12:17] <ome_> Reading package lists... Done
[12:17] <ome_> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:17] <ome_> Initializing package states... Done
[12:17] <ome_> Building tag database... Done
[12:17] <ome_> No candidate version found for wine
[12:17] <ome_> No candidate version found for wine-dev
[12:17] <ome_> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[12:17] <ome_> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:17] <ome_> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[12:17] <ome_> Writing extended state information... Done
[12:17] <Frogzoo> ome no spam!!!
[12:17] <Bazzi> argh :(
[12:18] <Bazzi> use the pastebin next time
[12:18] <ome_> whats that?
[12:18] <Bassetts> Frogzoo: my version doesnt run well
[12:18] <rob> !pastebin
[12:18] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[12:18] <ome_> !pastebin
[12:18] <Bassetts> Frogzoo: i tried it, im happy with a vm =P
[12:18] <xinel> so does anybody know how to get the intel pro 3954 to work in dapper?
[12:18] <Nookie> how can i know how much processor force is used at the moment?
[12:18] <Nookie> i mean how many procent
[12:19] <Frogzoo> Nookie: top
[12:19] <intelikey> Frogzoo what you reccomending now ? :)
[12:19] <Frogzoo> intelikey: :p
[12:19] <intelikey> g'morning
[12:19] <Frogzoo> intelikey: mornit
[12:20] <weedar> Frogzoo: the reason I ask is because when I use the Printer-wizard (albeit in KDE..) after I specify the IP-adress of the server and the printer it wants me to pick a driver
[12:20] <ome_> how do i use pastebin?
[12:20] <Frogzoo> ome_: look up ^^^
[12:20] <intelikey> ome_  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  <--- go there
[12:20] <Nookie> Frogzoo: thanx alot
[12:20] <Nookie> :-d
[12:21] <m_0_r_0_n> cat /proc/cpuinfo for the cpu. And for the graficcard?
[12:21] <Frogzoo> weedar: don't know - but it makes no sense for the client to need a printer driver - do you see IPP anywhere?
[12:21] <m_0_r_0_n> I would like to know if my system is working with the correct grafic driver
[12:22] <suprchris> cripps, i still can't access that drive, is it because it's in ntfs?
[12:22] <intelikey> lsmod   compare to   lshw
[12:22] <dooglus> ome_: or snurl.com/upaste if that's easier to remember
[12:22] <Infecto> hello
[12:22] <noiesmo> m_0_r_0_n, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:22] <Infecto> can some one tell me how to add account module to iptables
[12:23] <Infecto> i know how to compile kernele but i`m looking a way to do that withaout this
[12:23] <Infecto> s/kernel/iptables
[12:23] <ome_> Im a little lost on the whole pastebin thing. I went to that site and it said enter name and msg so i did then clicked send. not sure what that did
[12:23] <Frogzoo> ome_: then paste the resulting url back here so peeps can find your paste
[12:24] <intelikey> Infecto build the modules and add to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/something
[12:24] <ome_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d15644
[12:24] <m_0_r_0_n> noiesmo, thanks, it s  a MGA G550 AGP graficcard. How do I get OpenGL work with this graficcard?
[12:25] <m_0_r_0_n> Google Earth for Linux messages , that OpenGL is not supported
[12:25] <intelikey> ome_ looks like you need to setup apt to use the universe repo
[12:25] <intelikey> !repos
[12:25] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[12:25] <intelikey> follow that wiki ^
[12:25] <weedar> Frogzoo: It is after I have specified the IP-address and port that I see the Printer. After choosing it I am asked for the driver.
[12:26] <Infecto> intelikey: thats only posibility ?
[12:26] <intelikey> Infecto prolly not....  idk
[12:26] <ome_> ok an info on that?
[12:26] <noiesmo> m_0_r_0_n, not sure really but looking at this site there seems to be linux drivers
[12:26] <m_0_r_0_n> ok, thank you
[12:26] <Infecto> ok thx
[12:28] <|lostbyte|> Any one know how i could get more fonts ?
[12:28] <intelikey> |lostbyte| add them
[12:28] <dr3as> anyone that can recommend a console-based cd-ripr?
[12:28] <intelikey> |lostbyte| apt-cache search fonts
[12:29] <|lostbyte|> I want a spesific one.. its called "clean"
[12:29] <intelikey> it's in the reops
[12:29] <intelikey> repos
[12:29] <Jaak_> i keep getting errors trying to install new gnome themes... Can anyone help me, or tell me what packages to install?
[12:30] <burns> Jaak: what's the prob?
[12:30] <intelikey> packaged tho you may need to apt-cache show <blah>
[12:30] <Frogzoo> weedar: try http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/howtos.html
[12:30] <Frogzoo> !tell Jaak_ about themes
[12:30] <grantp> Hello, need some assistance. At work we have an intranet which works on ASP with some activeX drop down menu's... How can i view these menu's using konquerer or mozilla.
[12:30] <noiesmo> m_0_r_0_n, http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/latest/home.cfm
[12:30] <noiesmo> m_0_r_0_n, hopefully they come with howto nvidia drivers do or maybe someone else knows
[12:31] <m_0_r_0_n> what about this driver http://www.xig.com/Pages/Summit/CardsChips/Matrox/G550.html
[12:31] <higen> activeX is very much windows as fare as i know..
[12:31] <intelikey> grantp i have renamed pages <name>.html to view them  not the best way but it does work.
[12:31] <Frogzoo> higen: you can install the mozilla active x controls & install ff under wine
[12:32] <Frogzoo> higen: actually, you can run moz active x controls native too
[12:32] <higen> there goes your answer grantp :)
[12:32] <ome_> Ok im at the part where you go into repository and you are supposed to Click the Settings button at the bottom and tick Show disabled software sources. Problem is theres no settings button in repository
[12:33] <Frogzoo> ome_: click on '6.06 LTS'  & then click 'edit' - then select multiverse/universe checkboxes
[12:34] <grantp> Frogzoo??
[12:34] <grantp> hrm..
[12:35] <Frogzoo> grantp: try the mozilla active x controls
[12:35] <intelikey> ome_ the gui way eeh....  hmmm i'd sujest  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list      and uncomment the lines with the repos you want, save and exit.  then sudo apt-get update
[12:36] <intelikey> but i don't gui anyway, so i always sujest a cli way.
[12:36] <Internat> has anyone had the problem of vlc not being able to listen on any ports? ie i cant start a server
[12:36] <ome_> im not sure the repos i want
[12:36] <Frogzoo> grantp: http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/mozilla.htm
[12:36] <Bazzi> ome_: universe and multiverse
[12:37] <Bazzi> !repos
[12:37] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[12:37] <ru>  I am trying to upgrade my kernel
[12:37] <ru> sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp
[12:37] <Bazzi> ome_: follow ubotus link
[12:37] <ru> linux-686-smp is already the newest version.
[12:37] <ru> but if I check it doesnt seem to actually be installe
[12:37] <Frogzoo> ru: have you rebooted?
[12:37] <intelikey> ru ls /boot
[12:37] <ru> In the /boot folder I only see "initrd.img-2.6.15-23-686"
[12:37] <Bassetts> whats a minimum install hd size for ubuntu when the home folder wont be used
[12:37] <grantp> Will check it out Frogzoo, thanks mate!
[12:38] <intelikey> is it there ?
[12:38] <ru> I dont see "sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp"
[12:38] <ru> I mean I dont see xyz-smp sorry
[12:38] <Frogzoo> grantp: yw, gl
[12:38] <intelikey> 15-23 is latest isn't it ?
[12:40] <intelikey> ru you can  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade       if there is a later version that should pull it in.
[12:40] <nando> hi guys... i have a problem on my amd64 with some libs.... maybe somebody can help??
[12:40] <Bassetts> what is the Examples folder for in home??
[12:40] <ome_> what does it mean to uncomment ?
[12:41] <intelikey> ome_ remove the   #
[12:41] <Frogzoo> ome_: usually, remove the leading '#'
[12:41] <nando> i just downloaded skype.... and everytime i try to start i geht the following: error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:41] <ome_> ok because im not seeing that on anything other then messages
[12:41] <nando> but this lib is installed in /usr/lib  ...
[12:41] <intelikey> no  # deb blah
[12:42] <ChefWill> FOX NEWS ALERT: Women Attacks Couple w/ Pooper Scooper
[12:42] <ChefWill> :P
[12:42] <brrrt> how can i remove unused "network-server-connections" from my menu ??
[12:42] <Ulfalizer> ome_: languages often have constructs for including comments in codet. in this case, a comment is marked with a
[12:42] <ome_> for instance http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d15645
[12:42] <Ulfalizer> ops, premature return
[12:42] <ome_> I dont see those on any command lines though
[12:42] <Ulfalizer> ome_: ..with a #. a common method to "disable" i piece of code is to make it into a comment. "uncommenting" simple means "activating" the code again by removing the comment marker.
[12:43] <Ulfalizer> *a piece
[12:43] <ome_> I hear you ulf
[12:43] <ome_> Where im confused it no command lines apear to have #
[12:43] <Ulfalizer> *simply
[12:43] <intelikey> ome_ pastebin the whole file
[12:43] <ome_> ok
[12:44] <Frogzoo> ome_: click on '6.06 LTS'  & then click 'edit' - then select multiverse/universe checkboxes
[12:44] <ome_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d15646
[12:44] <Bassetts> In a virtual machine, is the set amount of RAM used constantly for a running machine, or does it use as much as it needs up to the limit?
[12:44] <intelikey> Frogzoo if they are not commented out there wont be a selection will there ?
[12:45] <ome_> hey frog i tried that earlier but that advice dosnt follow through in practice on my gui
[12:45] <Frogzoo> intelikey: for LTS 6.06 there is - it must be built into synaptic
[12:45] <jimmy89> what program do you recommened i use to console into cisco routers?
[12:45] <Frogzoo> jimmy89: telnet :)
[12:45] <ome_> there is no multiverse/universe when after edit
[12:45] <Frogzoo> jimmy89: or ssh if supported
[12:46] <intelikey> ome_ the looks ok.
[12:46] <Bassetts> Frogzoo: do you know about VMs??
[12:46] <ome_> my sources.list looks ok ?
[12:46] <intelikey> what you pasted is ok.
[12:46] <ome_> hmm
[12:46] <ome_> then back to the the original paste
[12:46] <Bassetts> ome_: i added multiverse and universe and only universe worked for me until someone posted their sources.list for me
[12:46] <intelikey> ome_ just do the   sudo apt-get update
[12:47] <ome_> aye aye cap
[12:47] <Bassetts> ome_: want me to paste my sources.list for you??
[12:47] <ome_> no thanks basset intelikely says mine is a go
[12:47] <intelikey> Bassetts did you look at his ?
[12:47] <Bassetts> intelikey: yes =)
[12:48] <Frogzoo> ome_: Ubuntu LTS 6.06 (binary)
[12:48] <Bassetts> intelikey: im not that silly now, plus it was someone from here
[12:48] <rolferic> Normally I don't have any problems with Ubuntu on my machine. But since the upgrade via synaptic to LTS my wireless network card and sound card in my laptop wont work with the new kernel, to get the machine working I logon with my old kernel and need to set things up again manuely!
[12:49] <jimmy89> frogzoo: does telnet connect to a router via com1?
[12:49] <ome_> Ok guys the plot thickins. I just ran sudo apt-get update heres what i got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d15647
[12:49] <Frogzoo> jimmy89: no - for that you need a serial terminal - like ckermit or minicom
[12:50] <Bassetts> intelikey: http://rafb.net/paste/results/nqQyIi79.html
[12:50] <Frogzoo> Bassetts: easy answer, try it & see what top says
[12:50] <Bassetts> top??
[12:50] <orbin> ome_: exactly what it says. that wine repos is 404
[12:50] <Frogzoo> Bassetts: from bash
[12:50] <jimmy89> do they have a nice gui that i can run from gnome?
[12:50] <Bassetts> ooo
[12:50] <ome_> what does that mean orbin?
[12:51] <Frogzoo> jimmy89: nope - strictly cli
[12:51] <ome_> cant connect ?
[12:51] <jimmy89> :'(
[12:51] <Bassetts> just didnt seem, look, or sound like a command Frogzoo =P
[12:51] <jimmy89> are there any that exist?
[12:51] <orbin> ome_: yep
[12:51] <orbin> ome_: why do you have it in there?
[12:51] <Frogzoo> jimmy89: a gui serial terminal emulator? o.O
[12:51] <Bassetts> Frogzoo: which colums shows amount of RAM being used??
[12:51] <jimmy89> yes
[12:52] <ome_> have what where?
[12:52] <jimmy89> well what i mean is
[12:52] <Ng> Bassetts: the RES one
[12:52] <Frogzoo> Bassetts: hit 'M' to sort by memuse
[12:52] <brosio> anyone that has firefox <IP_ADDRESS> and nvidia driver could open this link without mozilla crash ? http://www.securityfocus.com/data/vulnerabilities/exploits/sendtest.c
[12:52] <jimmy89> just like a shell i can have open whislt running gnome
[12:52] <|lostbyte|> how do i install a ttf font ?
[12:52] <brosio> anyone that has firefox <IP_ADDRESS> and nvidia driver could open this link without mozilla crash ? http://www.securityfocus.com/data/vulnerabilities/exploits/sendtest.c i get a crash of X
[12:52] <ubuntunewbie> I'm a complete linux (ubuntu newbie), could anyone help me for a sec?
[12:52] <kieranDOA> Whats up?
[12:52] <Ng> |lostbyte|: copy it to ~/.fonts/
[12:53] <Bassetts> =( seems to be using all 512mb at once
[12:53] <TigerWolf> ubuntunewbie: Just ask your question
[12:53] <Ng> |lostbyte|: (you may need to create that directory)
[12:53] <orbin> ome_: you have http://wine.budgetdedicated.com listed as a repository for packages... apt can't connect to it.
[12:53] <ubuntunewbie> well, i had some trouble mounting hd's, so now I just unmounted them all and wanted to start over
[12:53] <intelikey> folks i got to go fix an ellection.
[12:53] <ubuntunewbie> but now if I open "places - computer" it is still full with stuff
[12:53] <ubuntunewbie> is there any way to delete the disks I see there?
[12:53] <|lostbyte|> Ng, thats it ?
[12:53] <jimmy89> with minicom, how do i tell it to connect via com1 for example?
[12:53] <jimmy89> and how do i set the seed
[12:53] <rolferic> Is it know that the new TSL look at hardware much diffrent then before, especially wifi and sound?
[12:53] <jimmy89> *speed
[12:53] <ome_> so what do i do?
[12:53] <orbin> ome_: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' ... then either comment or remove the line for that url
[12:54] <brosio> anyine could help ?
[12:54] <TigerWolf> !windowsdrives
[12:54] <orbin> ome_: then run update again
[12:54] <ubotu> rumour has it, windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[12:54] <Ng> |lostbyte|: should be, yep
[12:54] <hayden> are the divx/xvid codecs supported under w32codecs?
[12:54] <|lostbyte|> k
[12:54] <TigerWolf> hayden: I think they are seperate
[12:55] <Sonderblade> in ubuntu, how do you change from dhcp ip to static ip?
[12:55] <TigerWolf> !xvid
[12:55] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, TigerWolf
[12:55] <TigerWolf> !divx
[12:55] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[12:55] <orbin> TigerWolf: /msg ubotu please
[12:55] <ome_> hey orbin i think thats the line bazzi told me to add there earlier
[12:55] <KenSentMe> Anyone got the gdesklets for lm-sensors running? I've installed lm-sensors and when i run sensors i can see results, but the gdesklets show nothing. When i try to configure a temp gdesklets, the configuration menu won't show up. Anyone know why?
[12:55] <ome_> remove this? deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[12:55] <TigerWolf> orbin - yea ill use !tell - sorry
[12:55] <orbin> ome_: i just joined 5 mins ago...why'd he tell you to add it?
[12:56] <orbin> TigerWolf: thanks
[12:56] <ome_> he told me like a 3 step install wine method
[12:56] <farous> KenSentMe: i have it running here give me a min
[12:56] <ome_> unfortunately there was many problems and kinda been goin in circles since
[12:56] <Bazzi> :X
[12:56] <jimmy89> the real question i have is i am using network-manager, how can i set my wep key, to be stored in key#2, do you guys have any idea?
[12:56] <Bazzi> ome_: just enable universe through synaptic
[12:56] <Bazzi> it's simple as that :)
[12:56] <KenSentMe> farous: ok
[12:57] <ubuntunewbie> hmm, anyone up for a private chat about mounting drives or clearing up "places -> computer"?
[12:57] <farous> KenSentMe: right click on gkrellm and just configur sensors under builtins
[12:57] <ome_> ok im lost now, gonna go have a smoke break
[12:57] <ubuntunewbie> or is private chat not possible here? i dunno
[12:57] <Bassetts> Frgoz: is there a graphical top?? the terminal version confuses me alot =P
[12:57] <Bassetts> unless i can make them stop moving around *Frogzoo
[12:58] <|lostbyte|> Ng, Should i restart X server ?
[12:58] <farous> Bassetts: i think gnome sys monitor if you run gnome have your ans
[12:59] <Bassetts> cheers
[12:59] <hastesaver> ubuntunewbie, not recommended. Ask in the channel; more people can help you.
[12:59] <KenSentMe> farous: that works, but i was using the desklets and not the gkrellm
[12:59] <KenSentMe> farous: and the gdesklets don't work
[12:59] <Bassetts> farous: in sys monitor, is "resident memory" the mem used?
[12:59] <ubuntunewbie> ah okay
[12:59] <farous> KenSentMe: not all the gdesklets worked for me just search through them
[12:59] <farous> KenSentMe: sorry that is what i did
[01:00] <farous> Bassetts: lol i use top not sys monitor :)
[01:00] <KenSentMe> farous: ok, i'll try other
[01:00] <ubuntunewbie> if I go to "places -> computer" i see a lot of icons (share, temp, windows, 11,3 Gb-volumen) but I can't access them, nor delete them
[01:00] <ubuntunewbie> how do I delete them?
[01:02] <farous> ubuntunewbie: you unmount them not delete them
[01:02] <drummer87> hi, how can i set different wallpapers on each desktop in Gnome?
[01:02] <farous> ubuntunewbie: and they do nto take anyspace so why you want to remove them
[01:02] <ubuntunewbie> I have unmounted all of them through "system - admin - disks"
[01:02] <farous> drummer87: that is not easy as kde
[01:02] <|lostbyte|> Ng, Why are there so little fonts for konsole ?
[01:02] <|lostbyte|> anyone ?
[01:02] <ubuntunewbie> well, I want to have only the icons there which are actually linked to a drive
[01:02] <drummer87> farous: yeah.. i realised that, was wondering what app i can use, or which is best, etc.
[01:02] <farous> drummer87: it can be done but it id not designed to do that.
[01:02] <ome_> Anyone want to help me figure out why wine wont install?
[01:03] <ubuntunewbie> now there are a lot of disks shown, but none works...
[01:03] <farous> drummer87: frankly too much trouble
[01:03] <ubuntunewbie> i guess it's a bit difficult to understand what i mean
[01:03] <farous> ubuntunewbie: you needed just to double click on them
[01:03] <hastesaver> ubuntunewbie, how did you end up with them in the first place?
[01:03] <drummer87> :(
[01:04] <ubuntunewbie> hmm, well i made a  bit of a mess partitioning and deleting partitions
[01:04] <ome_> orbin, bazze, intelikely?
[01:04] <Bazzi> ome_, dude, just enable universe ;-)
[01:04] <ome_> i been tryin
[01:04] <Bazzi> !tell ome_ about repos
[01:05] <ome_> the tutorials dont work
[01:05] <jimmy89> anybody know if its possible to enter a wep key#2 in network-manager?
[01:05] <jimmy89> anybody know if its possible to enter a wep key#2 in network-manager?
[01:05] <jimmy89> sry, for the double line
[01:05] <ome_> I tried that bazzi,, dosnt match my gui
[01:05] <jimmy89> hit up arrow by mistake
[01:05] <farous> !tell ome_ about easysource !tell ome aobut repos
[01:05] <ubuntunewbie> i'm trying https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?action=show&redirect=AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions#head-6036dacc4d033cfb40c0c3f3840439535508ed93 now
[01:05] <Bazzi> ome_: should do though, weird
[01:05] <farous> !tell ome_ about easysource
[01:06] <orbin> ome_: yeah, don't know why it's 404ing for you.  i just accessed it in firefox
[01:06] <KenSentMe> farous: i've tried all the gdesklets and none of them work. I even can't configure them.
[01:06] <farous> KenSentMe: i remeber i got my gdesklets package from the gdesklets site
[01:06] <farous> perhaps a newer ver is better
[01:06] <ome_> hmm must be my route, possibly isp
[01:06] <KenSentMe> farous: gonna try
[01:07] <farous> KenSentMe: warn you though they are problamatic gkrellm is much better
[01:07] <ome_> is there an alternative?
[01:08] <Terminus> doesn't apt-get install openssh-server also create an sshd user?
[01:08] <MrFaber_> hi all
[01:08] <shriphani> ogra ?
[01:08] <MrFaber_> Does anyone have experiences with vnc under amd64 ubuntu?
[01:08] <MrFaber_> It doesn't work for me
[01:08] <Terminus> just asking coz sshd won't start
[01:08] <hastesaver> ubuntunewbie, one way (use at your own risk) is to first backup your /etc/fstab, and then edit it to remove all the lines corresponding to nonexistent partitions. But be very careful, it could destroy your computer :)
[01:09] <orbin> ome_: try this in a terminal: ping wine.budgetdedicated.com
[01:09] <hastesaver> Terminus, what do you mean by sshd user? As soon as you install openssh-server, sshd should be running. Are you sure it isn't?
[01:09] <shriphani> orbin can i use the dapper install cd to upgrade ?
[01:09] <orbin> shriphani: yep
[01:09] <Terminus> hastesaver: it won't start because Privilege separation user sshd does not exist
[01:09] <shriphani> ok so do i put it in directly when breezy is running ?
[01:10] <Terminus> hastesaver: shouldn't the install scripts take care of that?
[01:10] <orbin> shriphani: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[01:10] <suprchris> will a partition formatted in ntfs say that you don't have the proper permissions within linux?
[01:10] <ome_> ping seems to be working fine orbin
[01:11] <hastesaver> Terminus, um sorry, I don't even know what "Privilege separation user sshd" means :) I installed the ssh package, and it was running, for me.
[01:11] <MrFaber_> Is there anywhere amd64 ubuntu support?
[01:11] <Terminus> hastesaver: it means that the sshd user doesn't exist. it needs that coz sshd should not be running as root. anyway, i guess i'll just try to reinstall. :)
[01:11] <orbin> ome_: pastebin your sources.list file pls
[01:11] <ome_> k sec
[01:12] <KenSentMe> farous: gdesklets in ubuntu is the latest version, and the lm sensors gdesklets are from 2004
[01:12] <suprchris> I have a partition that says only root has permission to view, i've used chmod but it didn't work. any suggestions?
[01:12] <farous> KenSentMe: i do not know just told you what worked for me
[01:12] <cafuego> suprchris: ntfs? fat32?
[01:12] <NET||abuse> hmm, fighting away with this xgl setup.. got x-server up and running after turning Load dri back on... was crashing out with messages about  poly request too long
[01:12] <cafuego> !ntfs
[01:12] <KenSentMe> farous: ok, thanx for your help
[01:12] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[01:13] <orbin> MrFaber_: yes but iirc not everything's available e.g i think there are problems with flash, java etc.
[01:13] <_jason> suprchris: what filesystem does it use?
[01:13] <NET||abuse> but i've got a reall weird behaviour
[01:13] <shriphani> i dont have the alternate cd :(
[01:13] <ome_> orbin_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d15649
[01:13] <shriphani> i just got the dapper installation cd
[01:13] <Terminus> hastesaver: bah... something must have gone wrong the first time i installed it. now it created the sshd user. :|
[01:13] <suprchris> ntfs
[01:13] <NET||abuse> all the text and dialog options .. i can't see any text on anything.
[01:13] <suprchris> when i use chmod it can read it and says it's changing the file permissions but it still doesn't do anything
[01:13] <hastesaver> Terminus, ok, good. As long as it works, fine :)
[01:14] <_jason> suprchris: k, ubotu's link should help you out
[01:14] <Terminus> hastesaver: yep. i wonder what went wrong though...
[01:14] <shriphani> !dapper upgrades
[01:14] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, shriphani
[01:14] <shriphani> hmm
[01:14] <KenSentMe> !upgrade
[01:14] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[01:14] <shriphani> orbin, i dont have the alternate cd :(
[01:15] <MrFaber_> orbin: I have no desktop, I have a server, and that vnc doesn't work is a huge problem imho
[01:15] <ubuntunewbie> hastesaver, i edited /etc/fstab so that i have three drives mounted: hdb1 (linux install), hdb3 (swap) and cdrom
[01:16] <orbin> ome_: ok, i just added that deb line and it update fine...i don't know what's going on to be honest
[01:16] <ubuntunewbie> it's strange because when I go to /media it still shows me hda1, hda2, etc...
[01:16] <hastesaver> ubuntunewbie, ok, but don't blame me if something goes wrong :)
[01:16] <ome_> ok well thanks for tryin
[01:16] <hastesaver> ubuntunewbie, maybe you need to reboot.
[01:16] <Ayabara> I have vmware running a dapper server image. how can I upgrade to full desktop version?
[01:16] <ubuntunewbie> hmm, rebooting linux? thought that was never necessary :)
[01:16] <shriphani> hastesaver he might just need to unmount
[01:17] <shriphani> that is unmount the drives
[01:17] <shriphani> or the partitions
[01:17] <lig> How do I get autoconf version 2.13 loaded on to my ubuntu box?
[01:17] <orbin> MrFaber_: sorry, i'm not a 64 user nor a vnc user....have you had a look at the forums/wiki?
[01:17] <ubuntunewbie> i unmounted all but hdb1 and hdb3 via "system - admin - drives"
[01:17] <shriphani> orbin, will the normal cd work in place of the alternate one ?
[01:17] <orbin> ome_: hmmm, you also had a dpkg lock problem...is synaptic open or something?
[01:18] <hastesaver> lig install autoconf2.13 package
[01:18] <shriphani> hey wait did you edit /etc/fstab ?
[01:18] <ubuntunewbie> when I type 'mount' in shell i also only see hdb1
[01:18] <ome_> it isnt now
[01:18] <ubuntunewbie> yeah, i edited /etc/fstab
[01:18] <ome_> it may have been before
[01:18] <shriphani> i guess you need to reboot
[01:18] <ubuntunewbie> hard reboot, or only logout-login?
[01:18] <ome_> whats the line i type to connect to wine again?
[01:19] <ome_> to update it
[01:19] <orbin> shriphani: apparently not
[01:19] <lig> hastesaver, get the error "no such file or directory" - used the command "sudo install autoconf2.13 package
[01:19] <lig> "
[01:19] <MrFaber_> orbin: thx
[01:19] <MrFaber_> cu all
[01:19] <Ayabara> is there a way to upgrade ubuntu server to ubuntu desktop version?
[01:19] <ubuntunewbie> i'll be right back
[01:19] <mjr> Ayabara, basically, install the ubuntu-desktop package
[01:19] <shriphani> orbin so ubuntu isnt offering alternate cds for shipping ?
[01:19] <mjr> using apt-get or synaptic
[01:19] <Ayabara> mjr: thanks!
[01:19] <hastesaver> lig sorry, that's not the way you install. Do "sudo apt-get install autoconf2.13", or better, read the http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware page
[01:20] <mjr> (come to think of it, the server edition doesn't necessarily have synaptic, so apt-get it is :)
[01:20] <lig> Thank you hastesaver
[01:20] <shriphani> but ogra told me to pop in the cd while breezy was running
[01:21] <lig> Excellant - it's going
[01:21] <NZheretic> Is anybody else finding that firefox is crashing when your using it via remote-X?
[01:21] <kholerabbi> Anybody know how to get sound to work in wine?
[01:22] <ogra> shriphani, did i ?
[01:22] <shriphani> yes ogra
[01:22] <shriphani> remember artisan ?
[01:23] <hastesaver> lig BTW, as a general advice -- install everything only through one of the methods on that page; avoid installing from files downloaded from the net as far as possible
[01:23] <NZheretic> kholerabbi : The easy way is to install the wine-esd module.
[01:23] <ogra> shriphani, ah, yes
[01:23] <kholerabbi> NZheretic: I'll have a look, thanks :)
[01:23] <suprchris> how do you exit man pages
[01:23] <shriphani> so now i am told it wont work
[01:23] <hastesaver> suprchris, type 'q'
[01:23] <_jason> suprchris: q
[01:23] <ome_> still gettin the 404 on wine.. and syn isnt open
[01:23] <lig> hastesaver, understood - but need to build PHP6 from source... unless ya'll have it available through the apt-get :)
[01:24] <suprchris> man, i typed every letter but that one, how ironic
[01:24] <kholerabbi> is php6 out?
[01:24] <lig> no - only cvs... very unstable
[01:24] <ogra> shriphani, if you put in the install CD it will pop up an upgrade dialog
[01:24] <kholerabbi> wine-esd ins't in the repositories?
[01:24] <shriphani> oh
[01:25] <hastesaver> lig, you're right; newer versions take time to be entered into the repos... so that's an exception :)
[01:25] <ome_> mayne i should take out the http?
[01:25] <shriphani> unfortunately i havent recieved the install cds yet
[01:25] <lig> hastesaver,  :D
[01:25] <shriphani> dammit]
[01:26] <shriphani> ogra, you were telling me about ubuntu stopping shipit
[01:26] <kholerabbi> COuld someone help me install wine-esd for me winish sound?
[01:27] <orbin> ome_: you could always just grab them manually: open firefox, go here: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/pool/main/w/wine/  grab all the .deb packages for your distro.  install them using dpkg -i <debfile>
[01:27] <ogra> shriphani, i did what ? ubuntu isnt stopping shipit yet, surely not
[01:27] <shriphani> oh cool
[01:27] <shriphani> the last time we were talking on edubuntu i had a damned power cut
[01:29] <chessman> has anyone tried, or managed, to get XGL/Compiz to work with a window manager other than Gnome or KDE ... like, say, fluxbox?
[01:29] <NET||abuse> hmm, i'm up against an odd event in xgl here.. when i start my gnome-session... i get just the weirdest rendering, can't see any text on anything, and most things are just flat colours, no icon details or anything.
[01:29] <dooglus> does anyone recognise this web browser?  http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/2006-06-13--13-26-44.png
[01:29] <ubuntunewbie> hello again
[01:30] <ubuntunewbie> i did something wrong with nvidia drivers, and now ubuntu won't start in graphics mode
[01:30] <NET||abuse> i can mouse over an dialogs and get drop downs to go down,, but i can't see the menu entries, it's all just flat.
[01:30] <kholerabbi> Hey could someone help me get sound in wine - how do I get wine esd?
[01:30] <ubuntunewbie> and in text mode I do not know how to remedy the problem
[01:30] <ubuntunewbie> there is an x-server error
[01:31] <NET||abuse> i'm on the "ati" drivers for radeon mobility 7500 and i followed the xgl compiz standard wiki entry on ubuntu forums
[01:31] <AnDrEw|> hey, i just wondering if ubuntu supports the belkin wireless card?
[01:31] <Zambezi> I'll install Ubuntu serverinstall soon, with FVWM. But which x-server should I install?
[01:31] <kedde> I'll need to connect to my school via a vpn connection, does anybody know which program I should use?
[01:33] <orbin> Zambezi: there's one besides xorg?
[01:34] <orbin> ubuntunewbie: what did you to cause it?
[01:34] <iNFERNo_TheDestr> Hi. Is there any way to fix the problems in the DSA with a tool like in gentoo glsa-check ?
[01:34] <nikk> after update to dapper, i get kernel oops on boot and it seems my network card stopped working. a known problem?
[01:34] <Zambezi> orbin: No, but there are several versions like x-server, x-server-core -dev etc.
[01:35] <kenas> hi
[01:35] <iNFERNo_TheDestr> or if there is a dedicated Ubuntu Security Advisory and a tool for that. Thank you
[01:35] <kenas> i have recently upgraded ubuntu to 6.06
[01:35] <Zambezi> orbin: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin//search_packages.pl?version=dapper&subword=1&exact=&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=xserver&searchon=names
[01:35] <kenas> and samba doesnt work
[01:35] <kenas> any help for this ?
[01:36] <Hoxzer> :) there is howto for it at wiki
[01:36] <Hoxzer> what is problem btw?
[01:36] <Hoxzer> does it ask pw that u dunno?
[01:37] <NZheretic> Help. firefox crashes while viewing http://www.real.com/linux/
[01:38] <Ignite> NZheretic, which version of firefox? also, thats probably a bug in firefox and not ubuntu, it loads fine in version <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:38] <nikk> you somebody help with this: after update to dapper, i get kernel oops on boot and it seems my network card stopped working. a known problem?
[01:38] <Etheri> NZheretic: no problems here. Firefox <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:38] <nikk> i mean can somebody..
[01:38] <AnDrEw|> hey i wanna no what wireless card for laptop will work on *nix
[01:38] <NZheretic> Firefox <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:38] <RandomDude15> guys I Need help
[01:38] <RandomDude15> bad
[01:39] <AnDrEw|> PRISM2 or sumit?
[01:39] <RandomDude15> I cant boot into my kubuntu because I have a file system with errors.
[01:39] <Ignite> NZheretic, try clearing your cache, Tools -> Clear Private Data, tick "cache" then click "Clear Pricate Data Now"
[01:39] <ubuntunewbie> I accidentally installed the wrong nvidia drivers and now gnome won't start. i can install nvidia drivers via 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common', right? but do i have to uninstall the current (not-working) drivers first?
[01:40] <ome_> hey orbin do i download the non deb files?
[01:40] <orbin> ome_: you don't need to, no
[01:41] <Ignite> ome_, are you the ome from controlthesystem.org?
[01:41] <ubuntunewbie> anyone, please?
[01:41] <ome_> no im the original ome
[01:41] <Ignite> ok
[01:41] <ome_> never knew another ome
[01:41] <Bassetts> is there any linux/open source/ubuntu podcasts?
[01:41] <hastesaver> ome_, no you're not. You're just ome_ , not ome :p
[01:41] <edney_brasil> morning all!
[01:42] <ome_> name snatchers
[01:42] <Etheri> morning edney!
[01:42] <ome_> i was the first and only ome
[01:42] <orbin> ubuntunewbie: which 'wrong ones' did you install?  and how?
[01:42] <ubuntu> hey
[01:43] <assasukasse> hi all, does it exist an applet which "searches" wireless in ubuntu? (sort of scan for wireless in winzoze)
[01:43] <Ignite> ubuntunewbie, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[01:43] <ubuntunewbie> i installed the legacy drivers, since i read that for older geforce2 cards i needed them
[01:43] <ome_> orbin_: so i type dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:43] <ubuntunewbie> but then I rebooted and gnome wouldn't start
[01:43] <ubuntunewbie> and now I've read somewhere else that my Geforce2 MX (!) is supported by the newer drivers
[01:43] <ubuntu> i understand there has been some bug fixes since the dapper release already?
[01:44] <ubuntunewbie> so I have to switch back
[01:44] <jeico> assasukasse: i think it's nessus. correct me if wrong
[01:44] <orbin> ome_: yes
[01:44] <orbin> ome_: need sudo in front
[01:44] <ubuntunewbie> orbin: so I installed them via the package manager
[01:44] <ome_> only the 606 ones?
[01:45] <jeico> or kismet
[01:45] <Ignite> assasukasse, i don't know much about wireless but try kismet: http://www.kismetwireless.net/
[01:45] <jeico> right ;)
[01:45] <Ignite> damn, jeico got there before me :P
[01:45] <jeico> yep
[01:45] <orbin> ubuntunewbie: sudo apt-get removenvidia-glx-legacy
[01:45] <vinboy> how do I check my Xorg version?
[01:45] <orbin> *space after remove
[01:45] <ome_> hmm errors galore, smoke time
[01:46] <shriphani> namastey thyagarajan
[01:46] <orbin> ubuntunewbie: that will uninstall the legacy ones.  then you can grab the normal nvidia-glx package
[01:46] <_jason> vinboy: Xorg -version
[01:46] <thyagarajan> Vanakkam
[01:46] <vinboy> thanks
[01:46] <shriphani> ahh tamil
[01:46] <xored> what app to use for pdf editing ?
[01:46] <ubuntunewbie> orbin: and i can do that via "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common", right?
[01:47] <shriphani> xored, use open office
[01:47] <thyagarajan>
[01:47] <shriphani> it exports to pdf :)
[01:47] <xored> shriphani: nope, got PDF, i need to edit
[01:47] <thyagarajan> any php channels?
[01:47] <shriphani> oh
[01:47] <shriphani> no idea :)
[01:47] <orbin> ubuntunewbie: i catually have an ati card.  where are you getting that kernel-common from? the wiki only says you need the glx package
[01:47] <ubuntunewbie> orbin: and, I also installed nvidia-settings
[01:48] <Ignite> xored, openoffice.org has a pdf export feature if i remember :)
[01:48] <ubuntunewbie> orbin: ehmmm, i read it on this site...
[01:48] <orbin> ubuntunewbie: are you on dapper?
[01:48] <brett_> hey fellas
[01:48] <xored> Ignite: i HAVE pdf and need to EDIT. I dont need to create one :)
[01:48] <Ignite> hrm
[01:48] <thyagarajan> try pdf2edit
[01:48] <brett_> can someone have a look at my fstab and tell me why my HDD wont mount?
[01:49] <apokryphos> brett_: pastebin it
[01:49] <apokryphos> brett_: also let us know of the error you're getting
[01:49] <ubuntunewbie> orbin, dapper, yes
[01:49] <akappa> xored, just buy adobe acrobat standard
[01:49] <akappa> :P
[01:49] <ubuntunewbie> orbin: i found it here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[01:49] <brett_> yeah, i will
[01:49] <Bassetts> is there any linux/open source/ubuntu podcasts?
[01:49] <shriphani> apokryphos, why do i always get these var/lib errors with apt-get ?
[01:49] <luk> is there a command to convert a number into hours min sec ?
[01:49] <luk> a bash command
[01:50] <Ignite> xored, http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/06/0612209
[01:50] <apokryphos> shriphani: you're going to have to be a lot more descriptive
[01:50] <apokryphos> shriphani: pastebin?
[01:50] <shriphani> ok
[01:50] <ubuntunewbie> orbin: i'll just try this and see if it works :)
[01:50] <NET||abuse> omfg!!! i gotit!
[01:50] <ubuntunewbie> brb
[01:50] <Ignite> ?
[01:50] <orbin> ubuntunewbie: grab those two then....installing nvidia-settings in dapper removes the nvidia-glx package...maybe that's why it failed
[01:50] <NET||abuse> got wobbly and stuff workin on an old ati radeon mobility 7500!!
[01:51] <NET||abuse> don't seem to have more than one desktop
[01:51] <orbin> ubuntunewbie: according to the official wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:51] <benyx> Hi!  i have a little question!...  how i can put a Trash icon on my desktop
[01:51] <Ignite> NET||abuse, is that using the unofficial drivers?
[01:51] <NET||abuse> using "ati
[01:51] <NET||abuse> "ati"
[01:51] <ome_> orbin_: i only do the 606 ones right?
[01:51] <kholerabbi> I have no sound in wine - could someone help me with wine-esd???
[01:51] <Ignite> :O
[01:51] <brett_> apokryphos, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15650. I get an error message with something like "line 9 in fstab is bad" (cant remember the exact error, but its like 9 in fstab
[01:51] <shriphani> malformed line ?
[01:51] <NET||abuse> hehe, this is a 3 year old compaq Evo N610c
[01:51] <NET||abuse> hehe,
[01:52] <apokryphos> brett_: what does sudo mount -a tell you?
[01:52] <brett_> line*
[01:52] <orbin> ome_: yep
[01:52] <NET||abuse> the windows are all mad wobbly
[01:52] <Ignite> NET||abuse, do you have any links that i might be able to read? i have a radeon 7000, i never bothered even trying :P
[01:52] <NET||abuse> and they fade to greay when i'm not usin em
[01:52] <brett_> apokryphos, line 10 in fstab is bad
[01:52] <shriphani> http://pastebin.com/706292
[01:52] <apokryphos> brett_: "nls=utf8" ?
[01:52] <shriphani> apokryphos, http://pastebin.com/706292
[01:53] <NET||abuse> the f12 function works well.. me likey :)
[01:53] <shriphani> sorry for the repeating
[01:53] <dempa> I'm trying to get bluetooth to work between my desktop & SE T630 after an reinstallation but I get key missmatch everytime tough I have doubled and trippled checked the pin, using pinwrapper, sending files between is ok, the cellphone just doesn't want to add my desktop to "My devices". Any help would be appreciated
[01:53] <ome_> orbin_:dpkg: error processing wine_0.9.15~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb (--install):
[01:53] <ome_>  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[01:53] <brett_> apokryphos,  I dont know what that is. my friend had a go at mounting it
[01:53] <NET||abuse> Ignite.. i just read through all the links on the dapper xgl wiki
[01:53] <_nano_> could anyone suggest a nice editor for gnome that has code highlighting and code folding?
[01:53] <NET||abuse> i did have some issues which i solved myself
[01:53] <apokryphos> shriphani: from what command is that? Also, could you pastebin your sources.list?
[01:53] <clast> hey
[01:53] <_nano_> gedit seems to mess up php embedded in html
[01:53] <orbin> ome_: oh. you're on a 64 install....
[01:53] <shriphani> ok
[01:53] <apokryphos> brett_: remove that part then, and remount.
[01:54] <shriphani> the command was sudo apt-get install joe
[01:54] <brett_> remount?
[01:54] <Ignite> NET||abuse, ok thanks
[01:54] <apokryphos> brett_: for a decent guide on mounting NTFS partitions you really should check the FAQ
[01:54] <benyx> Hi!  i have a little question!...  how i can put a Trash icon on my desktop
[01:54] <clast> tvtime and the fglrx driver don't work together (something about missing XV). any suggestions what to do?
[01:54] <apokryphos> shriphani: ok, does sudo apt-get update give you errors too?
[01:54] <NET||abuse> ooh, alt-tab seems to make thing  go kaka
[01:54] <MetaMorfoziS> can i download 64bit kubuntu for intel?
[01:54] <ome_> yah... Hey orbin what do you consider the best version of ubuntu?
[01:54] <MetaMorfoziS> for 64bit intel?
[01:54] <shriphani> apokryphos, only till the immediate installation is performed
[01:54] <apokryphos> MetaMorfoziS: yes
[01:54] <shriphani> then it goes back to showing the same problems
[01:55] <ome_> breezy ? dapper? xubuntu?
[01:55] <orbin> ome_: what do you mean?  best is what suits the user most imo
[01:55] <MetaMorfoziS> where?
[01:55] <apokryphos> shriphani: sorry?
[01:55] <cart> Anyone is in trouble to install the package mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail after upgrade the thunderbird to <IP_ADDRESS>.0ubuntu6.06 ???
[01:55] <MetaMorfoziS> apokryphos: where?
[01:55] <kholerabbi> I have no sound in wine - help!!!
[01:55] <ome_> wondering whats the all around best linux os
[01:55] <kholerabbi> ??
[01:55] <ic56> brett_: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[01:55] <MetaMorfoziS> in the list only 64bit for amd
[01:55] <Whoopie> Hi, where can I find the the build progress of the dapper-updates packages?
[01:55] <shriphani> i mean i do an apt-get update and then i can install w/e i wanr
[01:55] <Frogzoo> ome_: how long is a piece of string?
[01:55] <shriphani> but after the installation it shows the same problems
[01:55] <brett_> ic56, 6.06
[01:56] <ome_> 248 feet
[01:56] <shriphani> those that i pasted in patebin
[01:56] <apokryphos> MetaMorfoziS: "For computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon)."
[01:56] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^ that is amd
[01:56] <MetaMorfoziS> i need for intel
[01:56] <Whoopie> cart: Martin Pitt told me that mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail is already uploaded to dapper-security. Will be there soon.
[01:56] <nikk> my network stopped working after upgrade, what could i do?
[01:56] <ic56> the hdd in question is NTFS?
[01:56] <apokryphos> shriphani: what's the exact output of sudo apt-get update?
[01:56] <MetaMorfoziS> hm
[01:56] <MetaMorfoziS> okay:D
[01:56] <ic56> brett_: the hdd in question is NTFS?
[01:56] <apokryphos> MetaMorfoziS: em64t is AMD? No....
[01:56] <cart> Whoopie: Hmm, ok, thanks! :)
[01:56] <Frogzoo> nikk: echo > /etc/iftab & reboot
[01:57] <ome_> orbin_: is wine not good with amd64?
[01:57] <apokryphos> ome_: it was only recently released; ubuntu doesn't have it.
[01:57] <brett_> ic56, yeah
[01:57] <MetaMorfoziS> okay, thanx
[01:57] <shriphani> you want me to paste it apokryphos ?
[01:57] <apokryphos> shriphani: pastebin, yes.
[01:57] <shriphani> in pastebin that is
[01:57] <kenas> i have recently upgraded ubuntu to 6.06
[01:57] <shriphani> ok
[01:57] <kenas> and samba doesnt work
[01:57] <kenas> any help for this ?
[01:57] <ome_> wondering if i should get a diffrent non 64 release
[01:58] <apokryphos> ome_: FAQ explains the pros/cons
[01:58] <ome_> cant get flash to work either
[01:58] <apokryphos> flash won't work with Ubuntu's 64-bit install
[01:58] <Hso> yeah, you need to use a 32-bit browser to use flash on a 64-bit OS, i think...
[01:58] <apokryphos> unless you get into chroots etc
[01:58] <nikk> Frogzoo: i could try that but i need to reboot. ifup says something about not finding the device. will the iftab thing help?
[01:58] <ic56> brett_: just a sec
[01:58] <brett_> ic56, thanks
[01:58] <apokryphos> Hso: not necessarily, you could have a 64-bit browser that can handle 32-bit plugins (i.e. Konqueror)
[01:59] <apokryphos> Firefox can't, though
[01:59] <Hso> ew ;P I'd rather use firefox :D
[01:59] <afflux> tag...
[01:59] <apokryphos> Hso: you still couldn't use it on Ubuntu without a chroot though; no BiArch-compatible.
[01:59] <NZheretic> Ok. The problem with firefox seems to be occuring with remote-X, locally it works fine.
[02:00] <brett_> also, can anyone help me fix my sound? I had a logitech USB headset in, and after I made it the default sound device, neither it or my onboard will work.
[02:00] <nikk> brett_: the sound was muted for me when i upgraded. have checked that?
[02:00] <Hso> apokryphos, I have no idea what you're talking about :P
[02:00] <ome_> what ubunut would you use apokyphos if you had a athlon FX55?
[02:00] <ic56> cat: z2: No such file or directory
[02:00] <ic56> brett_: Download and run this script<EMAIL_ADDRESS>It will setup your /etc/fstab and mountpoints in /media so you can see your NTFS filesystems in Places> Computer.
[02:00] <brett_> nikk, yeah. i get an error saying it is not properly configured when i try to play a song in xmms
[02:01] <apokryphos> Hso: AMD64s can perfectly well execute 32-bit binaries (it's backward-compatible), but the Ubuntu package management system isn't set to be BiArch-compatible unfortunately.
[02:01] <brett_> ic56, thanks, will do
[02:01] <Frogzoo> nikk: maybe, can't say til you try it
[02:01] <apokryphos> Hso: some talk of getting it to be for Edgy, but we'll have to wait and see.
[02:01] <ic56> brett_: if you don't supply any flags, it will interactively ask you if you want to enable NTFS write.
[02:01] <brett_> ic56, flags?
[02:01] <Hso> ah :P
[02:01] <ic56> brett_: Answer no.  point your browser to that URL, and page down to "Instructions".  Read till the next blank line.  Follow the instructions to save and run the file.  It will do the rest.  I'm the author of this version, so I can help if anything goes wrong.
[02:01] <Hso> I still have no idea what chroot is :P
[02:02] <kholerabbi> Anyone know how to get sound in wine?
[02:02] <Frogzoo> Hso: -> google
[02:02] <kholerabbi> Or how to install wine-esd?
[02:02] <Hso> google is too complex!! :P
[02:02] <brett_> ic56, awesome
[02:02] <ome_> i better just get the 32bit release for now...
[02:02] <Frogzoo> kholerabbi: avoid esd with wine - try winecfg -> audio
[02:02] <apokryphos> Hso: it's like another Ubuntu installation on your computer. It's often used for building packages (since you can get a completely new environment) or for distributions like Ubuntu which aren't BiArch so you can have 32bit programs
[02:02] <Hso> ah
[02:03] <orbin> Hso: google 'how to google' ;)
[02:03] <Hso> orbin - never! :P
[02:03] <Hso> I know how to use google, but it's not always helpful :P
[02:03] <Hso> currently reading wikipedia's text for chroot XD
[02:03] <cristos> hello
[02:03] <kholerabbi> Frogzoo: OK what do I select???
[02:03] <Ignite> does anyone know the difference between compiz-quinn and compiz-vanilla?
[02:03] <cristos> got a problem with writing/reading to serial port, need help please (read returns -1)
[02:03] <apokryphos> Ignite: compiz-vanilla is the FDO packs, without external 3rd-party additions
[02:04] <Frogzoo> kholerabbi: alsa if you're on dapper? otherwise, whichever sound system youu're using - oss or alsa
[02:04] <Ignite> apokryphos, ok thanks :)
[02:04] <kholerabbi> breezy
[02:04] <apokryphos> Ignite: compiz-quinn is a modified compiz by Quinn and a few other 3rd-party developers
[02:04] <Frogzoo> kholerabbi: go alsa - & select alsa from thte multimedia selector
[02:04] <ome_> Ok im gonna format and reinstall... What do you consider the best? breezy? dapper drake? kubuntu? xubuntu? edubuntu?
[02:04] <Ignite> apokryphos, so, i should be safe with either right?
[02:04] <Hso> hmm... chroot sounds good :P what does it stand for ? change root ?_?
[02:04] <ubuntu> hello
[02:04] <apokryphos> ome_: Kubuntu Dapper :P
[02:04] <Frogzoo> kholerabbi: note that with alsa you can only have one sound source at a time
[02:05] <apokryphos> Ignite: they'll have different options, they should both run fine though.
[02:05] <shriphani> apokryphos, http://pastebin.com/706315
[02:05] <ubuntu> how to install a desktop on 6.06 server
[02:05] <Frogzoo> Hso: bingo
[02:05] <ome_> apokryphos that a joke or you serious?
[02:05] <Hso> ah
[02:05] <Ignite> apokryphos, ok thanks a lot
[02:05] <apokryphos> ome_: deadly =)
[02:05] <apokryphos> shriphani: ok, re-enter that sudo apt-get foo command
[02:05] <ubuntu> something lie fluxbox
[02:05] <apokryphos> ubuntu: install ubuntu-desktop
[02:05] <ome_> k k har har har
[02:05] <shriphani> ok
[02:05] <apokryphos> ubuntu: for fluxbox.... /msg ubotu fluxbox
[02:06] <apokryphos> ome_: as in, I'm not joking. KDE is the way to go =)
[02:06] <Bassetts> is there any good linux/open source/ubuntu podcasts?
[02:06] <NET||abuse> how can i point the stdout of starting up gnome-session & into a file?
[02:06] <apokryphos> ome_: and Dapper is latest stable release
[02:06] <Hso> KDE has far too much junk for my liking :(
[02:06] <apokryphos> Hso: we like to call that configurability and extensibility :)
[02:06] <orbin> here we go again
[02:06] <Hso> I call it "junk" :P
[02:06] <shriphani> apokryphos, it is working fine
[02:07] <MetaMorfoziS> is there anyway to run ventrilo on ubuntu?
[02:07] <shriphani> lemme close the terminal and reopen it
[02:07] <Frogzoo> compromise - configurable & extensible junk
[02:07] <Hso> I don't need to see a list of 300+ appz when i just want to access one of them :P
[02:07] <Hso> heh
[02:07] <ome_> hey apokryphos im taking your word.. gettin kbuntu
[02:07] <apokryphos> Hso: hm, I wouldn't say it had "junk" that way. And anyway, with regard to applications, GTK/GNOME are just as guilty of having several applications to do the same thing 8)
[02:08] <apokryphos> ome_: join us in #kubuntu if you have any questions :)
[02:08] <kholerabbi> frogzoo: thanks I'll check
[02:08] <Hso> it's alot easier to find the app I want in Gnome :P
[02:08] <apokryphos> Hso: really?
[02:08] <graveson> tried installing ubuntu on usb external disk. it hangs about 95% ,any ideas on this
[02:09] <hastesaver> ome_, you can have both the GNOME Ubuntu and kubuntu simultaneously, so you won't be losing anything whichever you choose
[02:09] <apokryphos> I always know whatever app I want, so even now the menu is pretty useless
[02:09] <apokryphos> waste of my time :P
[02:09] <Hso> apokryphos, for me, it is :P
[02:09] <Frogzoo> apokryphos: I just discovered Deskbar a couple days ago & suddenly everything is at your fingertips - so cool
[02:09] <Hso> but then again I only used KDE for about 5-10minutes(Knoppix) to test my network connection.... once it failed, I reset and back into ubuntu/Gnome :D
[02:09] <hastesaver> Hso, how can it be the "app you want" when you don't know its name? ;)
[02:09] <Ruka> ...............
[02:09] <assasukasse> could someone help me with network manager?
[02:10] <whadar> hello, how can i set the task panel to show 2 rows of tasks?
[02:10] <shriphani> assasukasse, what happened
[02:10] <Hso> hastesaver, it's so complex that i'm not even going to answer that ;P
[02:10] <jftrading> hello
[02:10] <Ruka> hi
[02:10] <graveson> if the bios does not allow me to boot from usbdisk ,how can i tell the kernel to boot from this usbdisk
[02:10] <brett_> hey ic56 . im having some slight problems running it. should it not run when i type "sudo bash ~/desktop/diskmounter-latest.txt"???
[02:10] <assasukasse> shriphani i installed it but it doesn't show..
[02:10] <ic56> brett_: yes, it should.  What error message do you get?
[02:10] <assasukasse> where should i look for it? i installed the gnome frontend also shriphani
[02:10] <shriphani> do you click on the icon and does it ask for yer password
[02:10] <ubuntu> the intalation of fluxbox looks complicated is it ok to apt-get install fluxbox-desktop?
[02:10] <Frogzoo> graveson: you can't :(
[02:11] <hastesaver> apokryphos, is the Dapper kubuntu much different from the breezy one? I used to use KDE, but I've been using GNOME since I installed Dapper (too lazy to get KDE). Am I missing something other than I what I already know I'm missing? :)
[02:11] <assasukasse> shriphani i don't see any icon.
[02:11] <brett_> no such file or directory
[02:11] <shriphani> ok
[02:11] <rivethead> Anyone running Dapper on a Dell XPS gen2 laptop?
[02:11] <prower> Hello :> I'm running Dapper with all of the most recent updates installed, I'm having an unusual problem with the console text...it stretches off the top and bottom parts of the screen enough that it's impossible to see the command prompt with a clear screen ;> Anyone know how I might be able to change that?
[02:11] <m_0_r_0_n> How do you configure the graficcard?
[02:12] <olicat> hi all. i've got a macbook pro, but had enough of it, so i want to replace it with pc based laptop. i like sony vaio fe's - but how well do they work with ubuntu? (need good sleep support)
[02:12] <apokryphos> hastesaver: it has a newer version of KDE than Breezy did. A few more modifications with Guidance, improvements to Katapult, and such things.
[02:12] <brett_> ic56, no such file or directory. and i cant copy it to another place, i think i dont have rights
[02:12] <m0gsi> Hi all i was just wondering where gnome is located
[02:12] <m_0_r_0_n> How do you list all configure commands?
[02:12] <rivethead> oilcat : Dell laptops work really nice with Dapper.
[02:12] <ic56> brett_: remember that the unix filesystem is case sensitive.  You typed `desktop' which is not the same as `Desktop'.  The latter is correct.  If you saved diskmounter-latest.txt with any uppercase letters, you need to pay attention to those too.
[02:13] <olicat> rivethead aye, they're alright. i use that combo at work, but for home i want something a bit sexier than a dell :)
[02:13] <ubuntu> how to install fluxbox is there a howto
[02:13] <apokryphos> m_0_r_0_n: ./configure --help?
[02:13] <assasukasse> shriphani now i rebooted and have the applet, but says no net, while i am connected by wireless..
[02:13] <brett_> ahhhhh
[02:13] <apokryphos> ubuntu: /msg ubotu fluxbox
[02:13] <rivethead> oilcat : even sexier than the new XPS ? :P
[02:13] <orbin> m0gsi: waht are you trying to do?
[02:13] <m_0_r_0_n> xserver-configure?
[02:13] <ic56> brett_: let me know how it goes.
[02:13] <brett_> ic56, Damn case sensative crap
[02:13] <ubuntu> i did that its to complicated
[02:13] <m_0_r_0_n> xorg-configure?
[02:13] <brett_> ic56, thanks
[02:13] <m0gsi> Orbin i'm trying to change the splash screen
[02:13] <apokryphos> m_0_r_0_n: you want to configure your X?
[02:13] <m_0_r_0_n> yes
[02:13] <apokryphos> m_0_r_0_n: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:13] <olicat> rivethead i'm not into dells bulky case design. i'll look up the xps
[02:13] <orbin> m0gsi: the one that show up when gnome is loading?
[02:14] <apokryphos> ubuntu: install "fluxbox" package
[02:14] <rivethead> oilcat : i do have a friend that run's Dapper on one of the newer model vaio's i can ask him later for you how it works out , you can email me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:14] <shriphani> no net ?
[02:14] <m0gsi> Ya i've got a replacement file and art.gnome.com? is telling me to find the gnome directory i think
[02:14] <jimmy89> any1 know how to let networkmanager configure wep key#2?
[02:14] <shriphani> erm sorry i have no idea about netowrk manager
[02:14] <ubuntu> apokryphos: the wiki is to complicated what apt-get install fluxbox desktop
[02:14] <olicat> rivethead i'll drop you a note, thanks a lot
[02:14] <shriphani> i use airsnort
[02:14] <orbin> m0gsi: either install gtweakui, or go directly into gconf-editor to specify the splash image
[02:14] <rivethead> oilcat : your not looking to get rid of that macbook pro are you ? :)
[02:14] <apokryphos> ubuntu: why do you want to use fluxbox?
[02:14] <m0gsi> can i just use the full path of it?
[02:14] <olicat> rivethead the xps is a bit big
[02:15] <Frogzoo> !laptop
[02:15] <ubotu> I guess laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam, or tuxmobil.org
[02:15] <ubuntu> because its light i will run vmware
[02:15] <rivethead> oilcat : yeah it is, the Gen2 compacts are quit nice though thats what im on right now.
[02:15] <olicat> rivethead my girlfriend is having the mbp. trust me, you dont want one :)
[02:15] <orbin> m0gsi: fine. be that way: /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu-splash.png
[02:15] <rivethead> oilcat : really , thats a shame to hear i was excited about those.
[02:15] <olicat> me too
[02:16] <m0gsi> lol sorry orbin
[02:16] <olicat> rivethead the heat is staggering. i want a laptop i can use on my lap
[02:16] <brett_> ic56, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15652     is that alright?
[02:16] <orbin> m0gsi: lol.  guess it's another way of doing things.  no offence meant :)
[02:16] <m0gsi> Thanks orbin i was just looking for the packages of gtweakui but thanks i'll do it manually
[02:16] <rivethead> olicat : i have heard that they do run quite hot, i only have one problem with dapper on a laptop really and it doesnt bug me to terribly much.
[02:16] <orbin> m0gsi: yeah, just replace the image i guess
[02:16] <ic56> brett_: hang on
[02:16] <Frogzoo> olicat: radicat
[02:16] <Frogzoo> olicat: radical
[02:16] <AlexC> Hey,
[02:17] <m0gsi> I'll put one in the same folder as i like the deafult one as well !
[02:17] <AlexC> Does anyone know of a good FTP client with a nice GUI? gFTP really does suck, and the lack of a tree view is even worse and makes my fingers hurt because of all the navigating of the folders
[02:17] <orbin> m0gsi: then you'll still have to specify which image to use w/ gtweakui or gconf-editor
[02:17] <m0gsi> I know i've found it in gconf
[02:17] <rivethead> olicat : have you played with any of the other new mac laptops?
[02:17] <orbin> m0gsi: gtwekaui is in  universe
[02:18] <orbin> m0gsi: ah righto
[02:18] <robin__> hey all, I have a problem and hoping someone here can help, everytime I try to install java I get an error that its going to brake packages. any Idea's?
[02:18] <apokryphos> robin__: how are you installing
[02:18] <ic56> brett_: ah. you've been messing around with /etc/fstab :-).  Ok, the script can fix it for you.  run it with the -b flag.
[02:18] <m0gsi> I think i'll get gtwekaui anyway as long as i can find it in synaptic
[02:18] <brett_> ic56, thanks, trying
[02:18] <robin__> good
[02:18] <olicat> rivethead the 13" i've had a loot at. seems nice, but so did the pro at first
[02:18] <janek1212> hi
[02:18] <rivethead> olicat : how are they on overall laptop horsepower?
[02:18] <Frogzoo> what's the diff between gtweakui & Ala carte?
[02:19] <EmxBA> does anyone understand this when i say "Margolis IT Solutions" :D
[02:19] <EmxBA> maybe any op.
[02:19] <osfameron> nope
[02:19] <EmxBA> :D
[02:19] <olicat> rivethead it's pretty fast, but i haven't put any other os on it, so nothing to compare it to
[02:19] <m0gsi> lol orbin i don't have permission to write to that folder
[02:19] <EmxBA> come on people, I'm looking for someone who really knowes what does Margolis IT Solutions stand for
[02:20] <robin__> installing through adept and tried apt-get and tried auto matrix, java wont install
[02:20] <EmxBA> it is connected to Ubuntu :D
[02:20] <orbin> m0gsi: ls -l /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu-splash.png
[02:20] <EmxBA> i won't help you anymore :D
[02:20] <brett_> ic56,  so-> sudo bash ~/Desktop/diskmounter-latest.txt -b
[02:20] <orbin> m0gsi: it's owned by root
[02:20] <ic56> brett_: yes
[02:20] <orbin> m0gsi: use sudo
[02:20] <m_0_r_0_n> apokryphos, I have got a mga 550 card, but the default driver provided by Ubuntu doesnt support OpenGL. Any idea how to get OpenGL work?
[02:20] <rivethead> olicat : out of curiosity which Vaio were you lookin at aquiring?
[02:20] <janek1212> i have a problem starting dapper after upgrade from breezy. says partition does not exist and drops to busybox
[02:20] <janek1212> anyone can help ?
[02:20] <m0gsi> I've do it now thanks orbin
[02:20] <apokryphos> m_0_r_0_n: no idea I'm afraid
[02:21] <anodesni> QUESTION: In tvtime I only have one channel (after tvtime-scanner) , maybe nvidia drivers???
[02:21] <Ulfalizer> has anyone managed to get breezy running in Parallels (a virtualizer)? the system seems to hang indefinitely at "Ok, booting the kernel."
[02:21] <Frogzoo> !tell janek1212 about recoveringgrub
[02:21] <EmxBA> nobody knows?
[02:21] <kholerabbi> My startup, just after grub, is rather slow (breezy) has dapper got a faster startup?
[02:21] <brett_> ic56, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15653
[02:22] <EmxBA> Margolis IT Solutions is a name of ISP where ubuntu.com and all ubuntu sites are located at
[02:22] <orbin> kholerabbi: yes
[02:22] <EmxBA> in london
[02:22] <olicat> rivethead: http://vaio.sony-europe.com/view/ShowProduct.action?product=VGN-FE21S&site=ite_en_GB&pageType=Overview&category=VN+FE+Series
[02:22] <Ulfalizer> heh, seems others are having the same problem who run ubuntu natively
[02:22] <EmxBA> knew this?
[02:22] <janek1212> thanks but thats not a solution.
[02:22] <orbin> kholerabbi: mine's almost 25% faster
[02:22] <Ulfalizer> though most reports are for dapper
[02:22] <janek1212> grub works fine its kernel that cant find partition
[02:23] <EmxBA> janek1212: what have you done before everything went wrong
[02:23] <ic56> brett_: Mmm, sounds like broken fstab lines don't pertain to Windows partitions.  pastebin me the output from: cat /etc/fstab
[02:23] <rivethead> olicat : ok yeah thats sexy.
[02:23] <Frogzoo> rivethead: my current dapper laptop is a Vaio & my next one will be too
[02:23] <neil> hi I am very new to ubuntu - I have a quick question
[02:23] <kholerabbi> thanks
[02:23] <AlexC> Anyone know of a good FTP client with a good GUI, unlike gFTP
[02:23] <EmxBA>  what?
[02:24] <EmxBA> no
[02:24] <EmxBA> gFTP is good
[02:24] <AlexC> no it's not
[02:24] <rivethead> Frogzoo : do you have any troubles with the Nvidia card?
[02:24] <EmxBA> AlexC: i use ftp in terminal, that works nice :D
[02:24] <AlexC> EmxBA: The lack of a tree-view makes my fingers hurt! double cliking in and out of my folder structure is a pain in the ass
[02:24] <simbad> AlexC You may try kbear - I dont like it, but if you only need another gui.
[02:25] <EmxBA> you should use ftp in terminal
[02:25] <EmxBA> it rocks :D
[02:25] <Frogzoo> rivethead: mine is ati so... why, are the nvidia's problematic?
[02:25] <skaet> hey, is there some reason why nvidia-glx won't install properly? I've tried it several times and I don't get the nvidia logo when X starts, I even got the .run from nvidia.com but I need to do it from a terminal without X
[02:25] <jeico> EmxBA is right :p
[02:25] <ubuntu> is a fluxbox how to for dapper
[02:25] <EmxBA> jeico: thanks
[02:25] <neil> is there any diff between installing from a live-cd of ubuntu and installing from the install cd ? if it is a dumb question I appologise as I am completely new to ubuntu
[02:25] <rigonatti> Hi all!!
[02:25] <EmxBA> ubuntu: nice nick :D
[02:25] <AlexC> EmxBA: no thanks =) I find GUI for ftp much quicker
[02:25] <janek1212> @embxba i just upgraded to dapper from breezy via update tool (or whatever its called)
[02:26] <rivethead> Frogzoo : I dont have any prolems aside from the black screen when trying to switch to a virtual console or shutting down, scoured the forums trying all those fixes already none seem to work.
[02:26] <olicat> Frogzoo on the vaio, does suspend on close work, etc?
[02:26] <brett_> ic56, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15655
[02:26] <AlexC> beacuse I do a lot of navigating in and out of folders - so it;s easier with a tree view
[02:26] <EmxBA> AlexC: no, GUIs are always slow
[02:26] <AlexC> EmxBA: I'm not going to debate which is better
[02:26] <jeico> in case of a front end yes
[02:26] <ubuntu> EmxBA; thanks
[02:26] <EmxBA> AlexC: ok, there is gFTP and.....
[02:26] <EmxBA> k ftp clients
[02:27] <rigonatti> Can anyone help me with the Java Sun install ? I got the rpm package...used allien .. instaled ....but for some reason /usr/java dosent exist !
[02:27] <Psychobudgie> skaet : did you follow the nvidia instructions on http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html
[02:27] <EmxBA> ubuntu: how did you registered it? it is very wanted nick
[02:27] <AlexC> gFTP sucks as it doesn't have a tree view - which is what I nede
[02:27] <simbad> AlexC try kbear
[02:27] <EmxBA> AlexC: i can't help you from this distance. I use FTP in terminal and i am satisfied
[02:27] <EmxBA> :D
[02:27] <Frogzoo> olicat: suspend on close works for me - haven't got the S1/S2 buttons working but no need for them really - hibernate works from a hotkey
[02:27] <skaet> Psychobudgie:  I tried both the official nvidia help and the guide on the ubuntu wiki
[02:27] <hastesaver> EmxBA, it's not registered. There's someone called ubuntu on this channel at least once a day :)
[02:27] <rigonatti> !java
[02:27] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[02:28] <neil> can anyone point to to the right place to get an answer ?
[02:28] <EmxBA> hastesaver: really
[02:28] <olicat> Frogzoo cool, cheers
[02:28] <skaet> Psychobudgie:  they don't really mention anything that I hadn't already tried
[02:28] <Frogzoo> olicat: np
[02:28] <AlexC> simbad: am doing - EmxBA you use terminal - I use GUI ok
[02:28] <EmxBA> AlexC: np
[02:28] <orbin> neil: only w/ dapper has the livecd been able to install
[02:29] <orbin> neil: previouse versions had separate install and live cds
[02:29] <Psychobudgie> skaet:  did you modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:29] <AlexC> geee, why can't linux dev's make there apps look nice? doesn't take much. oh well
[02:29] <Psychobudgie> skaet:  change nv to nvidia
[02:29] <orbin> neil: dapper combines the two
[02:29] <Bazzi> AlexC: obviously it does ;-)
[02:29] <brett_> ic56, did you see my link?
[02:30] <ic56> brett_: yes. something didn't work right for you.  give me another minute
[02:30] <neil> thanks orbin... so a live-cd install is the same as install cd with this new version
[02:30] <AlexC> Bazzi: but it doesn't does it. it's just the little things like huge fonts, huge icons, un-aligned things - atleast mac and windows dev's get it right
[02:30] <Psychobudgie> skaet:  also do 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' from a terminal
[02:31] <Psychobudgie> should just work
[02:31] <orbin> neil: technically the live-cd and install-cd are now one: a live-cd with install capabilities.
[02:31] <EmxBA> AlexC: do you work on launchpad
[02:31] <brett_> ic56, no probs
[02:31] <skaet> Psychobudgie: I haven't made any changes to xorg.conf yet, I browsed it briefly but didn't edit it. I'll give the nv a try :)
[02:31] <AlexC> EmxBA: what do you mean? no I don't
[02:31] <robin__>  any one have a source for java that i can put in my source list
[02:31] <Psychobudgie> skaet:  that's why it's not working
[02:31] <EmxBA> AlexC: something connected to ubuntu
[02:31] <EmxBA> launchpad etc
[02:31] <Psychobudgie> skaet:  it's still loading the xorg nv driver
[02:31] <AlexC> EmxBA: I see, but why did you ask too?
[02:31] <neil> cool, thanks orbin
[02:31] <Bazzi> AlexC: true that :) KDE4 focuses also on the looks though.
[02:32] <TrioTorus> How can I overwrite the phpldapadmin dependancy on apache version 1? I want to use apache2 only. Look here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15651
[02:32] <EmxBA> AlexC: you look smart :D
[02:32] <skaet> Psychobudgie: that's strange because it installe flawlessly with no editing last time =(
[02:32] <winbond> yeah , kde4 is gonna rock
[02:32] <AlexC> Bazzi: so you think KDE4 will haev more Polished applications etc?
[02:32] <ic56> brett_: I see, I introduced a small bug yesterday while fixing something.  I'll have a new version in 5 mins.
[02:32] <Bazzi> hopefully, it is at least incompatible to KDE3 apps so they have to be rewritten anyways, hopefully all get sort of polish
[02:32] <AlexC> EmxBA: hehe thanks - not sure if that was sarcastic or not but hey! If only I had some spare time I would code some nice apps for Linux that get passed Beta
[02:32] <Psychobudgie> skaet:  I have always edited my xorg.conf file, so you must have been lucky ;-)
[02:32] <rigonatti> Can anyone help me with the Java Sun install ? I got the rpm package...used allien .. instaled ....but for some reason /usr/java dosent exist !
[02:33] <EmxBA> winbond: and new GNOME? any plans
[02:33] <EmxBA> AlexC: no, really, you talk a lot, and you have arguments for nice chatting :D
[02:33] <EmxBA> not sarcasm
[02:33] <Psychobudgie> once updated just do a <ctrl><alt><backspace> to restart X
[02:33] <AlexC> EmxBA: thank you =)
[02:33] <EmxBA> AlexC: i don't want to talk a lot because lots of you live in USA
[02:34] <EmxBA> at my place it is 14:34
[02:34] <brett_> ic56, i'm happy to wait
[02:34] <skaet> Psychobudgie: aye, thanks for the tip, I'll be back screaming in a minute.....
[02:34] <winbond> EmxBA:i dont know about gnome , they said they dont care about computing technologies so i dont expect much from them
[02:34] <EmxBA> and in USA 8:34
[02:34] <EmxBA> right?
[02:34] <AlexC> EmxBA: I live in the UK, so 1:34 here
[02:34] <orbin> rigonatti: you mean /usr/bin/java?
[02:34] <AlexC> PM, not AM
[02:34] <EmxBA> AlexC: oh, ok
[02:34] <NET||abuse> i seem to have been drawn into pushing the big red button and tried enabling mindows plugin for compiz,,, how can i turn it off without using gset-compiz? i seem to have buggered the session with that plugin! :)
[02:34] <EmxBA> i live in bosnia
[02:34] <ubuntu> hey
[02:34] <Hso>  question.. if I run ubuntu(Gnome), am I able to install and use KDE software, without installing KDE inself?
[02:34] <AlexC> EmxBA: nice
[02:34] <EmxBA> Hso: you must install KDE lib s
[02:34] <ubuntu> where are apt-sources list for dapper please
[02:34] <EmxBA> *libs
[02:34] <wezzer> guys, is it possible to run enemy territory on AMD64-ubuntu?
[02:35] <Hso> which does what?
[02:35] <hastesaver> !sources
[02:35] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[02:35] <Psychobudgie> oh incase anyone doesn't know yet, Google Earth has been released for Linux
[02:35] <richiefrich> Hso  how could u run KDE without installing it
[02:35] <richiefrich> Psychobudgie it has ?
[02:35] <richiefrich> url please
[02:35] <rigonatti> orbin: yes !!!
[02:35] <Psychobudgie> it works well in dapper
[02:35] <EmxBA> hso: you need KDE libraries to install KDE apps
[02:35] <Hso> that's why i'm asking, richiefrich  :P
[02:36] <Psychobudgie> it's at http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[02:36] <richiefrich> Psychobudgie ty
[02:36] <Psychobudgie> runs native and not in a wine wrapper like Picassa
[02:37] <marky> Does anyone know how fix my apt problem. When apt needs to use a command like ldconfig it says that it can't find it and says something about the PATH isn't configured. My path is correctly configure everyware else in linux. Does any one have any clue what could be wrong?
[02:37] <kandinski> thanks to Ryan "Icculus" Gordon
[02:37] <ubuntu> hehe
[02:37] <ubuntu> now i am ubuntu :D
[02:37] <rigonatti> orbin ?
[02:37] <ubuntu> hehe
[02:37] <papa_lic> greez
[02:37] <orbin> rigonatti: oh, i thought you found it
[02:37] <ubuntu> ih
[02:38] <AlexC> gah, kbear crashes when ever I want to transfer files - quite critual that for a FTP program to transfer files and they can't even get that right!. That's it - as soon as I have some free time i'm going to code a nice FTP client!
[02:38] <papa_lic> anyone having problems with usb unmountring itself and solutiotns?
[02:38] <orbin> rigonatti: how'd you install?  by following the wiki?
[02:38] <winbond> how can i add the .com .org .net autocomplete shortcuts to conquerer ,? like in the firefox
[02:38] <richiefrich> Psychobudgie  cool it's on gentoo in portage on my other box to :)
[02:38] <rigonatti> orbin: Im trying to run LimeWire (but needs JAvav 1.4or latter)
[02:39] <Bassetts> how would i got about updating xchat to the latest release?
[02:39] <rigonatti> orbin: then ...I didnt found Sun Java at Synaptics
[02:39] <EmxBA> winbond: i think konqueror doesn't support something like that :D come back to firefox
[02:39] <orbin> ubotu: tell rigonatti about java
[02:39] <skaet> Psychobudgie: thanks heaps, all good now :D
[02:39] <rigonatti> so ....donwloaded from jhava.com the rpm package...and follow the instructions from Sun
[02:39] <skaet> I'll make a note of it for next time I forget :)
[02:40] <Psychobudgie> skaet:  pleasure
[02:40] <rigonatti> but...doesnt work...install scripts works fine...but i think that is in the wrong place
[02:40] <EmxBA> rigonnati: if you want java for firefox than you need jre package
[02:40] <Psychobudgie> skaet:  where do I send the bill ;-)
[02:40] <Bassetts> alien is needed to install .rpm files right?
[02:40] <rigonatti> EmxBA: I know...but i got from Sun java Web Site and the procedures dont work to me
[02:40] <hastesaver> Bassetts, yes. But make sure whatever you're installing isn't already in the repos
[02:40] <skaet> Psychobudgie: are sexual favours accepted?
[02:41] <rigonatti> orbin: the wiki just say that: Sun Java5: Install it from the Applications -> Add/Remove... menu, or install the sun-java5-bin package.
[02:41] <AlexC> EmxBA: do you code?
[02:41] <Bassetts> hastesaver: it is, xchat, but i would like xchat 2.6.4, theres a few added features i need
[02:41] <EmxBA> rigonatti: you should go to any site which requires Java (in firefox) and you will automaticly start downloading
[02:41] <EmxBA> i think
[02:41] <Psychobudgie> skaet:  a freeby it is then
[02:41] <hastesaver> rigonatti, read the link ubotu sent you
[02:41] <Psychobudgie> heh
[02:41] <EmxBA> AlexC: not a lot , but i do
[02:41] <skaet> w00t
[02:41] <orinoco> hi
[02:41] <rigonatti> EmxBA: no...ask for a manual install
[02:42] <rigonatti> hastesaver: the procedures in that link dont work
[02:42] <orbin> rigonatti: did you enable multiverse like the wiki says?
[02:42] <hastesaver> rigonatti, of course they do. What do you mean they don't work?
[02:42] <EmxBA> orinoco: hi,  i have PCMCIA wireless card called orinoco and i can't set it up
[02:42] <EmxBA> i need kismet drivers
[02:42] <EmxBA> can you help me , orinoco :D
[02:42] <rigonatti> hastesaver:   "Sun Java5: Install it from the Applications -> Add/Remove... menu, or install the sun-java5-bin package."
[02:42] <tsk_> /hello
[02:42] <orinoco> i have a problem with my mouse, it is an optical usb one and it decided not to work to weeks ago, when i firstly plug iti in, it works for 5 secons then stops, may it be problem of the touchpad or what?
[02:43] <orbin> rigonatti: right. you that pack is in multiverse...make sure you've enabled it
[02:43] <AlexC> EmxBA: ahh right - I was going to see if you wanted to help in create a group of applications,
[02:43] <EmxBA> orinoco :D
[02:43] <orinoco> EmxBA, im not an orinoco expert XD
[02:43] <hastesaver> rigonatti, yes, did that?
[02:43] <orbin> ubotu: tell rigonatti about multiverse
[02:43] <EmxBA> AlexC: great! just private me
[02:43] <rigonatti> yes!
[02:43] <EmxBA> i can help you
[02:44] <hastesaver> rigonatti, you installed the sun-java5-bin package?
[02:44] <rigonatti> hastesaver:  yes. But for anyreason still not working
[02:44] <Bassetts> how can i get xchat 2.6.4?
[02:44] <EmxBA> AlexC: can i get your mail
[02:45] <AlexC_> EmxBA: yeh sure, I can't PM you for some reason though
[02:45] <orbin> Bassetts: either find a deb package for dapper or breezy (whichever one you're on) or install from source w/ checkinstall
[02:45] <hastesaver> rigonatti, did you read the "Note: Scroll down to "Selecting the default Java version" section to enable the JRE you have installed." line? :)
[02:45] <EmxBA> AlexC: i can private you :-P
[02:45] <AlexC> hum, werid
[02:45] <jimmy89> sry to ask again, but anyone know how to config wep key#2 using networkmanager?
[02:45] <hastesaver> rigonatti, you need to do   sudo update-alternatives --config java , and the same with jar
[02:45] <orbin> Bassetts: maybe check backports too
[02:46] <Bassetts> cheers
[02:46] <EmxBA> AlexC: do you need help to make that group of apps or no
[02:46] <CiberSkull> how do i get the build essencial package?
[02:46] <AlexC> EmxBA: it would be good to yeh
[02:47] <truls> are there any _up_to_date_ resources for people wanting to package/distribute python-software as ubuntu/debian-packages?
[02:47] <ic56> brett_: ok, new version is up
[02:47] <EmxBA> AlexC: then go to private, i don't want to flood the channel
[02:47] <truls> i'm guessing that distutils/setup.py called by debian/rules (with dhhelper or something) is the way to go
[02:48] <rigonatti> hastesaver:  ok...swho me some options
[02:48] <rigonatti> then nothing happens
[02:48] <orinoco> anyone can say something
[02:48] <hastesaver> rigonatti, no, you're supposed to select which one you want, and press enter
[02:49] <AlexC> EmxBA: I am - but you'r not responding =)
[02:49] <EmxBA> no
[02:49] <rigonatti> hastesaver: its that the right option:      3        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/javaa
[02:49] <brett_> ic56, cool. same link?
[02:49] <EmxBA> which IRC app are you using
[02:49] <ic56> brett_: yes
[02:49] <AlexC> EmxBA: gnome-xchat
[02:50] <florian> hi, is there a free teamspeak client?
[02:50] <orbin> truls: maybe ask the MOTUs?
[02:50] <orbin> truls: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[02:50] <hastesaver> rigonatti, yes. It's the only one that says "sun", right?
[02:50] <richiefrich> florian yes
[02:50] <rigonatti> florian: Try TeamSpeka web site
[02:50] <rigonatti> hastesaver: yes
[02:50] <h3h_timo> hey im checking out laptops and i found one, but i  a one day deal!! should i wait or jump on this?? check it out: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16834115246
[02:50] <EmxBA> AlexC: huh, i use gaim,i already privated you, just close the window in which you have privated me and private me again
[02:50] <EmxBA> or i should private you
[02:50] <truls> orbin: i can try
[02:50] <truls> orbin: thanks
[02:51] <rigonatti> hastesaver:  return this:      Using `/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java' to provide `java'.
[02:51] <hastesaver> rigonatti, then that's the right one.
[02:51] <richiefrich> florian www.goteamspeak.com
[02:51] <hastesaver> rigonatti, right. And do the same thing for "jre" instead of "java"
[02:51] <rigonatti> so?
[02:51] <truls> orbin: suspecting overkill though
[02:51] <florian> richiefrich: thanx, but i thought of an open source client
[02:51] <rigonatti> hastesaver: Noi alternativer for jre
[02:51] <richiefrich> florian  no it's not
[02:51] <richiefrich> :(
[02:51] <florian> richiefrich: is there an alterantive?
[02:52] <rigonatti> hastesaver: No alternatives for jre.
[02:52] <rigonatti> florian: You can install a Plugin to GAIM to use TEAMSPEAK
[02:52] <prower> Oddly enough, even if you specify java 1.5 as the default version, if you install Eclipse from the repository then it uses GCJ anyway :> Still haven't figured out how to change that
[02:52] <CrippsFX> what about freejava? FC5 uses that ...
[02:52] <hastesaver> rigonatti, sorry, that should be 'jar', not 'jre'. Sorry about that :0
[02:52] <CrippsFX> lol. ahhh ...
[02:52] <richiefrich> florian  there is but not like TS..  theres gizom
[02:53] <richiefrich> gizom/gizmo
[02:53] <rigonatti> hastesaver:
[02:53] <rigonatti>       1        /usr/bin/fastjar
[02:53] <rigonatti> *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/jar
[02:53] <mjr> prower, likely that the eclipse in the repos is at least partially natively compiled using gcj. Haven't checked, tho.
[02:53] <CrippsFX> hastesaver, java -jar <file>.jar
[02:53] <orinoco> i have a problem with my mouse, it is an optical usb one and it decided not to work to weeks ago, when i firstly plug iti in, it works for 5 secons then stops, may it be problem of the touchpad or what? and moreover, the buttons work while the moving part (red light) although it is functioning it does not move!
[02:53] <ome_> Is there a program to burn isos  that works in ubuntu?
[02:53] <CrippsFX> hastesaver, you could create an alias for it.
[02:53] <rigonatti> florian: You can install a Plugin to GAIM to use TEAMSPEAK
[02:53] <prower> mjr: Most likely, yeah...it's a bit inconvenient, have to go download it manually just to use Sun's java as far as I can tell
[02:54] <florian> rigonatti: yeah, i am goolging for it, but haven't found one so far
[02:54] <brett_> ic56, your a champ. it worked!!
[02:54] <orinoco> ome_, k3b
[02:54] <ome_> ok thanks
[02:54] <rigonatti> florian: hold on
[02:54] <ic56> brett_: good to know!  Thanks!
[02:54] <hastesaver> rigonatti, that's strange. Don't you have a third one that says "sun"?
[02:54] <CrippsFX>  /me is using Sun's java ... a la "universe" ... works beautifully for me.
[02:55] <cristos> hello
[02:55] <rigonatti> florina: try this http://freshmeat.net/projects/libtbb/?branch_id=63310&release_id=220603
[02:55] <rigonatti> hastesaver: no... =(
[02:55] <brett_> ic56, that made my day. now all i need is my sound back..
[02:55] <QMario> After I upgraded to Dapper from Breezy for some odd reason my .cpp files and most other files are not associated with their correct images. My .cpp files don't have this image anymore: http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gnomemimetextxcsrc6en.jpg
[02:56] <rigonatti> florian: try this http://freshmeat.net/projects/libtbb/?branch_id=63310&release_id=220603
[02:56] <ic56> brett_: you're welcome.  Good luck with the sound.
[02:56] <florian> thanx
[02:56] <brett_> ic56, cheers
[02:56] <cristos> Im programming the serial port using C++, but I cant access it. I have to run minicom, then kill it (kill -9), and only then have I access to dev/ttyS0 , Whats wrong ?
[02:56] <ic56> brett_: BTW, can you check sth for me?  What's in your /tmp
[02:56] <brett_> sth?
[02:56] <brett_> ic56, sth
[02:56] <brett_> ?
[02:56] <ic56> brett_: sth = something
[02:56] <brett_> ic56,  lol
[02:57] <kane77> what is the command to change resolution?
[02:57] <orbin> cristos: isn't that more of a generic c++ problem thatn an ubuntu one?
[02:57] <Steelix> I'm a Linux newbie, and I'm having issues getting Ubuntu to work with LAN on my Gateway laptop.
[02:57] <brett_> ic56,  theres a fair bit in there.. are you looking for anything in particular?
[02:57] <ubuntunewbie> orbin: everything worked out fine (after some trouble) with nvidia
[02:57] <cristos> orbin: dunno
[02:57] <Steelix> As far as I can tell, it doesn't see the ethernet. I'm guessing I need drivers.
[02:57] <Steelix> What should I do?
[02:57] <ic56> brett_: easier if you just pastebin for me
[02:58] <orbin> ubuntunewbie: great
[02:58] <ubuntunewbie> orbin: and my drives are correctly mounted too... thanks!
[02:58] <brett_> screenshot my /tmp folder?
[02:58] <rigonatti> orbin:  ?
[02:58] <ubuntunewbie> good luck all!
[02:58] <ic56> brett_: I'm looking to confirm a reported bug with the Ubuntu installer.  No screenshot!  Just: ls -la /tmp
[02:58] <hastesaver> rigonatti, I don't know, that's strange.  It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:59] <ic56> brett_: Yes.  The command, again, is: ls -la /tmp
[03:00] <brett_> ic56, ok, just a sec
[03:00] <newbieboyD> hello
[03:00] <Frogzoo> woot!! onboard modem works
[03:00] <newbieboyD> Hey guys i need help
[03:00] <Steelix> Would the packet manager help? Would it have drivers for my ethernet?
[03:00] <rigonatti> orbin: I found some:
[03:01] <newbieboyD> got some softwares but could not install em all
[03:01] <rigonatti> in Synaptics: Sun-java5bin  sun-java5-demo, sun-java5-jre:  Im reinstall and installing all of them
[03:01] <QMario> Is there a reason that firefox is a necessary package for Ubuntu?
[03:01] <newbieboyD> xmms-1.2.10.tar.gz
[03:01] <brett_> ic56, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15657
[03:01] <Steelix> :(
[03:02] <cherwin> newbieboyD: why do you want to install xmms from source
[03:02] <cherwin> newbieboyD: use apt-get
[03:02] <neutrinomass> QMario: It isn't. You mean why it breaks ubuntu-desktop ?
[03:02] <gnomefreak> newbieboyD: xmms is in the repos
[03:02] <newbieboyD> cherwin. I couldnt get any other
[03:02] <gnomefreak> newbieboyD: sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:02] <QMario> Okay, yes. Why does it break ubuntu-desktop?
[03:02] <gnomefreak> !info xmms dapper
[03:02] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), Packaged size: 1029 kB, Installed size: 7256 kB
[03:03] <newbieboyD> gnome freak and cherwinam now in my root terminal
[03:03] <ic56> brett_: yeah...  Did anyone advise you to create: /tmp/disks-conf-sda1 or was it there all along?  When did you intall?
[03:03] <florian> rigonatti: i compiled the package, how can i use it now? can't find anything
[03:03] <cherwin> newbieboyD: okay just do a "apt-get install xmms"
[03:03] <gnomefreak> newbieboyD: than apt-get install xmms
[03:04] <newbieboyD> cherwin and gnome freak ok
[03:04] <brett_> ic56, i have played with it a lot, but i never created that ^. I installed about 2 days ago (first time linux)
[03:04] <rigonatti> florian: do you have gaim installed ?
[03:04] <florian> rigonatti: sure
[03:04] <neutrinomass> QMario: ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage to make installing ubuntu easy. For example, you have kubuntu and want to get ubuntu? sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop, and you get everything that comes with ubuntu. AFAIK you can break it without any side effects
[03:04] <NET||abuse> hmm, when you're not using a window, compiz is graying out those windows under the currently active one.... is there a way to stop this?
[03:04] <cr3> anyone managed to get wireless working with wpa?
[03:04] <ic56> brett_: ok thanks!  ttyl!
[03:05] <turlututu> hi, i tried several times to change my usplash by following this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto  but it doesn't work for me, do you know if my special resolution (1280/800) may be the cause ?
[03:05] <QMario> Neutrinomass, what about Dapper? Has it caused it problems for you when associating files with icons.
[03:05] <newbieboyD> cherwin and gnomefreak : this in what i gotReading package lists... Done
[03:05] <newbieboyD> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:05] <newbieboyD> E: Couldn't find package xmms-1.2.10.tar.gz
[03:05] <cherwin> newbieboyD: and if you want to install a package and don't know the name than do "apt-cache search <package>"
[03:05] <Steelix> Where would I find ethernet drivers for an ethernet port on my Gateway laptop for Ubuntu, either through internet that can be taken from my PC to Linux laptop by CD, or on the install disc. Need ethernet for internet on Ubuntu.
[03:05] <rdz> !ati
[03:05] <ubotu> somebody said ati was http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[03:05] <justice> is there a way/tool to see which process is 32bit/64bit under x86_64 ???
[03:05] <cherwin> what do you have in your sources list newbieboyD?
[03:06] <newbieboyD> ok
[03:06] <rigonatti> florian: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=543118
[03:06] <Steelix> Guys, need help :(
[03:06] <newbieboyD> cherwin : xmms-1.2.10
[03:06] <brazil_word_cup> Steelix, ?
[03:07] <Steelix> Where would I find ethernet drivers for an ethernet port on my Gateway laptop for Ubuntu, either through internet that can be taken from my PC to Linux laptop by CD, or on the install disc. Need ethernet for internet on Ubuntu.
[03:07] <Steelix> Doesn't seem to acknowledge I even have an ethernet port.
[03:07] <justice> is there a way/tool to see which process is 32bit/64bit under x86_64 ???
[03:07] <gareth> I want to copy a file from my desktop to another directory, but I don't have write permission. I don't know my root password - I am certain I was nit asked for one during the install. HELP.....
[03:07] <cherwin> Steelix: don't flood the channel with your question we've seen it already, what type of card do you own?
[03:07] <Frogzoo> Steelix: lsmod & then google the nic's output + 'linux'
[03:08] <POVaddct> newbieboyD: sources list is /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:08] <Steelix> Uhh, not sure. It's a part of a Gateway laptop
[03:08] <Steelix> I've heard ubuntu doesn't like laptops.
[03:08] <cherwin> newbieboyD: that was not what I meant, thanks POVaddct
[03:08] <Frogzoo> Steelix: sry, lspci & then google the nic's output + 'linux'
[03:08] <brett_> ic56,  yeah thanks to you too, helped heaps
[03:08] <ic56> brett_: yw!
[03:08] <Frogzoo> Steelix: not true - even my modem works !
[03:08] <Steelix> lspci?
[03:09] <newbieboyD> cherwin n gnome freak u  guys are so sweet
[03:09] <cherwin> Steelix: you have to know what type of network card you own to install the driver. But maybe it's already installed. what does ifconfig -a say?
[03:09] <Steelix> One sec.
[03:09] <newbieboyD> cherwin : i just got it done thanks
[03:09] <cherwin> Steelix: lspci works too ;)
[03:09] <cherwin> newbieboyD: you're welcome
[03:10] <neutrinomass> Out of curiosity, do ISA devices show up in lspci as well ?
[03:10] <Steelix> Okay, ifconfig has lo and then some stuff, and sit0 and then some stuff.
[03:10] <michael117> How can I check and manage the current services running in Ubuntu?
[03:10] <Steelix> Google everything under lspci?
[03:10] <cherwin> neutrinomass: good one? i don't know try it out
[03:11] <kholerabbi> Is there any applications that will let me run a .iso file as a cd?
[03:11] <neutrinomass> cherwin: I have no ISA devices :P I have an ISA slot though.... I was wondering this morning when I saw a bug report on some ISA card ...
[03:11] <cherwin> Steelix: pastebin the output of lspci please
[03:11] <michael117> kholerabbi: You can mount an ISO
[03:11] <neutrinomass> kholerabbi: I think it can be done with file-roller.
[03:11] <vanden> gareth: use sudo mv in a terminal
[03:12] <kholerabbi> michael117: how?
[03:12] <Steelix> I can't copy it from the laptop to this PC, the laptop has no access to net, since no ethernet. There's a lot to paste.
[03:12] <justice> is there a way/tool to see which process is 32bit/64bit under x86_64 ???
[03:12] <justice> is there a way/tool to see which process is 32bit/64bit under x86_64 ???
[03:12] <kholerabbi> neutrinomass: File Roller??
[03:12] <neutrinomass> kholerabbi: Tried clicking on it ? :)
[03:12] <neutrinomass> kholerabbi: file-roller , commonly known as Archive Manager ... the unzipping utility that comes with Gnome
[03:12] <kholerabbi> Hey I have clicked on it :).. It opens in archive manager.. But I want to be able to use it AS an iso
[03:12] <cherwin> Steelix: don't you own a memory stick?
[03:13] <neutrinomass> kholerabbi: Burn it? Mount it ?
[03:13] <kholerabbi> Hmm no burner?
[03:13] <Steelix> Heh, iPod, yeah. Sorry, completely slipped my mind.
[03:13] <Steelix> One sec.
[03:13] <Steelix> ;)
[03:13] <bensode> Morning folkes
[03:13] <Sp4rKy_> hi
[03:13] <kholerabbi> Thanks peoples :)
[03:13] <Steelix> Although, wouldn't it be NTFS partitioned?
[03:13] <justice> is there a way/tool to see which process is 32bit/64bit under x86_64 ???
[03:13] <justice> is there a way/tool to see which process is 32bit/64bit under x86_64 ???
[03:13] <Sp4rKy_> please how could i get the list of kernel loaded module ?
[03:13] <neutrinomass> kholerabbi: Sorry, I don't understand what you want to do with it ... :-/
[03:13] <michael117> How can I check and manage the current services running in Ubuntu?
[03:13] <justice> is there a way/tool to see which process is 32bit/64bit under x86_64 ???
[03:13] <neutrinomass> Sp4rKy_: lsmod
[03:13] <justice> is there a way/tool to see which process is 32bit/64bit under x86_64 ???
[03:13] <mjr> justice, don't flood
[03:13] <cherwin> Steelix: no ipods are fat32
[03:14] <kholerabbi> It's allright I think I'll just mount it.. thanks !!
[03:14] <justice> is there a way/tool to see which process is 32bit/64bit under x86_64 ???
[03:14] <neutrinomass> !ops
[03:14] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[03:14] <Sp4rKy_> neutrinomass, not exactly :p in fact iwant to disable a module loading without recompiling
[03:14] <bensode> Have a simple mount question.  When I set up mounts ot the desktop through places, where do they actually mount?  I checked /mnt and also ran mount but they don't display the mount path
[03:14] <justice> is there a way/tool to see which process is 32bit/64bit under x86_64 ???
[03:14] <neutrinomass> Sp4rKy_: Edit /etc/modules.d/blacklist
[03:14] <Hobbsee> justice: dont repeat
[03:14] <neutrinomass> Hobbsee: Thanks :)
[03:14] <Sp4rKy_> neutrinomass, thx
[03:15] <cherwin> bensode: /media i guess
[03:15] <gareth> Vanden - please be move specific, I'm a command line newbie.....
[03:15] <bensode> cherwin: Nope just see cdrom symlink there
[03:16] <cherwin> bensode: open the media on the desktop and do a page up
[03:16] <cf2> Anyone round who can go "nslookup gb.archive.ubuntu.com" for me ? I get  <IP_ADDRESS>,  <IP_ADDRESS>, but the former doesn't have ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz (or anything much)
[03:16] <cherwin> bensode: then you'll see where it is mounted
[03:16] <YogSothoth> Hi
[03:17] <bensode> cherwin: yeah it just shows "Windows Network: (servername) as the parent can't go any higher
[03:17] <YogSothoth> I use Firefox with Totem Mozilla Plugin and I want to play an embedded .wvx file which is video/x-ms-wvx. But this extension is not associated to the plugin. How can I associate it to the plugin?
[03:17] <bensode> cherwin: looks like it's just browsing and not actually mounting ... hmmm
[03:18] <cherwin> bensode: ooh you can mount a smb share but you can also just browse it
[03:18] <cherwin> bensode: and that is what you are doing at the moment
[03:18] <YogSothoth> Notice that .wvx files are just playlists for .wmv files
[03:18] <rb338> bensode: type mount con console and It will tell you about all that is mounted, yo can see Fstab to look at mounts at boot
[03:18] <JdGordon> help... im getting "sudo: timestamp too far in the future:" how do i fix it?
[03:19] <YogSothoth> and .wmv files are supported by Totem Mozilla Plugin
[03:19] <bensode> rb338: heh ok.  I'll just make a couple old fashioned mount scripts then.  Never had luck "browsing" cifs shares with previous linux distros always had to hard mount them
[03:19] <ic56> !fixmbr
[03:20] <bensode> Good to see that Ubuntu has so much working out of the box =)  Glad I switched!
[03:20] <newbieboyD> hi
[03:20] <rb338> in ubuntu i only had to mount my secondary hd, but everything comes ok out of the box, only a little tweaking of fstab or simlinks
[03:20] <NET||abuse> arrg, cannot play mpeg totem doesn't have decoder? what should i do here? where do i get the decoders?
[03:20] <ic56> !justask
[03:20] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[03:20] <NET||abuse> it's a pretty normal mpeg file, i just play it on mediaplayer all the time
[03:21] <vanden> gareth: do you know how to move a file at the command line?
[03:21] <Bassetts> anyone know how to send files to a virtual machine?
[03:21] <bensode> Bassetts: Using Vmware?
[03:21] <gareth> vanden: no!
[03:21] <Bassetts> bensode: yes, server
[03:22] <vanden> gareth: open a terminal. type man mv
[03:22] <Frogzoo> # must match the names in /proc/modules with the underscores etc., includes slamr too
[03:22] <Frogzoo> unloadllist="snd_intel8x0m snd_via82xx_modem snd_atiixp_modem slamr"
[03:22] <cherwin> Bassetts: create a share on your virtual machine
[03:22] <bensode> Bassetts: in the virtual machine, if it is windows, you can browse \\.host
[03:22] <vanden> gareth: do you know how to get a terminal?
[03:22] <bensode> Bassetts: that is a link to your host share
[03:22] <cf2> Could someone please go "nslookup gb.archive.ubuntu.com" for me ? I get  <IP_ADDRESS>,  <IP_ADDRESS>, but the former doesn't have ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz (or anything much) so that Synaptic/Updater barf
[03:22] <Frogzoo> oops -soz
[03:22] <Bassetts> cheers bensode
[03:23] <bensode> Bassetts: Yeah I just started playing with vmware this week.  Pretty handy
[03:23] <Tomze> so is qmeu ;)
[03:23] <cherwin> bensode: on windows or on linux?
[03:23] <gareth> Vanden: yes - I'm reading the results of man mv at the moment. I just don't know the format of the command.
[03:23] <POVaddct> Tomze: and qemu is free :)
[03:23] <Frogzoo> Tomze: kqemu also
[03:23] <Bassetts> it is bensode =) lets me run photoshop =) im trying out vista too
[03:23] <bensode> cherwin: linux host running XP in vmware as guest
[03:24] <bensode> Bassetts: I use it for visio and domain management wihtout having to remote desktop to manage the Windows domain
[03:24] <Bassetts> bensode: \\.host does not work
[03:24] <vanden> gareth: OK, ask if stuck. Meanwhile, sudo is a command that lets you run commands as though you were another user. sudo mv (without a user specified) will run the mv as though you were root.
[03:24] <cherwin> Bassetts: just create a share on your guest
[03:24] <Tomze> Frogzoo: kqemu ? they gpl'ed it now ?
[03:24] <bensode> Bassetts: did you install the vmware tools on the guest OS?
[03:24] <Frogzoo> Tomze: nope - but it is faster
[03:24] <Bassetts> yes bensode
[03:24] <bensode> Bassetts: Yes or you could create a share on the host too
[03:25] <gareth> Vanden: will sudo ask for the root password? That's the big problem
[03:25] <vanden> gareth: ubuntu uses sudo rather than root accounts by default. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:25] <Bassetts> how do i create a share bensode?
[03:25] <vanden> gareth: yes, but your user password, not a root account pswd
[03:26] <bensode> Bassetts: I beleive it's under System -> Administration -> Shares
[03:26] <bensode> Bassetts: I'm still a little new with Ubuntu myself ;)
[03:26] <Bassetts> Shared Folders =) knew it was somewhere lol
[03:26] <cherwin> Bassetts: do you have me on your ignore list or what?
[03:26] <Bassetts> hate when you remember seeing it but have no god damn idea where
[03:26] <Bassetts> cherwin, no why?
[03:26] <bensode> Bassetts: the browse to \\.hosts should work if you have vmware tools installed on the guest.  It's jus a little slow to initialize, at least for me
[03:27] <sparkleytone> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host <--- could this happen if there are too many open file descriptors?
[03:27] <cherwin> Bassetts: because you can just create a share on your windows guest and access it from your linux host
[03:27] <Bassetts> bensode: vista says it cannot find it
[03:27] <chapium> is there any gui for configuring fax at the moment?
[03:27] <vanden> gareth: typed too fast. No, sudo doesn't ask for a root account password. It wants the password of the account that runs sudo. Details I don't recall determine which accoutns can sudo with rootlike power. But the primary user account can, by default.
[03:27] <bensode> Bassetts: Oh Vista is "Experimental" still under VMware Workstation 5.5 I thought?
[03:27] <Bassetts> bensode, yes it is
[03:28] <bensode> Bassetts: That might be half the problem there ;)  Cherwin's solution might be better
[03:28] <Bassetts> ok
[03:28] <vanden> hey all. Recent upgrade to dapper made my laptop's synaptic touchpad flaky. Lots of forum posts last I looked but no obvious solution. I'm not too experienced in Linux. Pointers?
[03:29] <gareth> vanden: the file is in home/gareth/temp stuff - does sudo mv /home/gareth/temp stuff -t /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins look reasonable?
[03:29] <Bassetts> cherwin, vista asks for users allowed to access the share, what should i add?
[03:29] <bensode> Bassetts: I tried vista a while back and a lot of it was still not functional.  Basicly just got a fancy desktop and IE to work, nothing else
[03:29] <vanden> gather: wait a sec
[03:29] <cherwin> just add a user that has rights on the share
[03:29] <_Mr_Denix_> hey all
[03:29] <bensode> Ugh now I just need to find out where to turn off the join/part/quit spam in XChat
[03:29] <_Mr_Denix_> !seen neutrinomass
[03:29] <ubotu> neutrinomass is currently on #ubuntu-offtopic (29m 39s) #ubuntu (29m 39s)
[03:29] <vanden> gareth: there is a space in the file name?
[03:29] <_Mr_Denix_> hello neutrinomass :)
[03:29] <Bassetts> bensode: its pretty functional now
[03:29] <_Mr_Denix_> !seen thoreauputic
[03:30] <ubotu> thoreauputic <n=prospero@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic> was last seen on IRC in channel #kubuntu, 1d 15h 18m 24s ago, saying: ':)'.
[03:30] <Bassetts> its in public beta so should be ok
[03:30] <vanden> gareth: if so, don't do that :-)
[03:30] <_Mr_Denix_> !seen gavagai
[03:30] <ubotu> gavagai is currently on #ubuntu-offtopic #ubuntu
[03:30] <_Mr_Denix_> hello gavagai :)
[03:30] <apokryphos> _Mr_Denix_: stop
[03:30] <_Mr_Denix_> lol
[03:30] <Guard] [an> hi, how can i install shockwave please ?
[03:30] <gareth> vanden: yes there is. I'll rename it without the space. Do you think the command looks ok then?
[03:30] <cherwin> Bassetts: so to be safe, just add the user that is creating the user to access the file. And then in linux access the share with smb://<ip-address>
[03:30] <apokryphos> !botabuse
[03:30] <ubotu> You can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.
[03:31] <_Mr_Denix_> just checkin don't need to be so agravated
[03:31] <Bassetts> =O confused
[03:31] <vanden> gareth: looks good to me, but I'm no hacker :-) (Save a copy first just to be sure.)
[03:31] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: I'll be with you in a moment :) (on the phone )
[03:31] <bensode> Can't seem to find where to turn off join/part/quit spam to the channel in Xchat menus ...
[03:31] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass sure
[03:31] <vanden> gareth: did it work out?
[03:32] <apokryphos> bensode: time to read the documentation :)
[03:32] <cf2> Do Ubuntu infrastructure bugs (specifically DNS) go into Malone with everything else ?
[03:32] <bensode> apokryphos: Ha ha
[03:32] <cherwin> Bassetts: yeah i know, i've typed something wrong, anyway, just create the share and add a random user. Be sure that the user has access to the file that you are going to share. And afterwards connect to the share in Linux with smb://<ip address>
[03:32] <cherwin> Bassetts: comprende?
[03:32] <Frogzoo> _Mr_Denix_: if you pm the bot, no one will mind if you fiddle
[03:32] <ninian> Are newbie questions tolerable here ?
[03:32] <Frogzoo> ninian: all except that one ;)
[03:33] <_Mr_Denix_> frogzoo i tried to kick myself. i might be rookie on linux but not that stupid to pm a boot
[03:33] <cherwin> ninian: try it out, and i have to go with Frogzoo
[03:33] <mike_> how do i install the ati linux driver?
[03:33] <Bassetts> cherwin: so in vista, goto my documents, click share, add a user (the user has to be on the vista pc it says), then in ubuntu do smb://share ip
[03:33] <cherwin> ninian: please refrain from asking if you may ask a question
[03:33] <apokryphos> mike_: check the FAQ
[03:33] <Bassetts> cherwin: how do i find vistas ip?
[03:33] <ninian> I know how to chmod etc, but I have no clue how to read the ownership and permissions of a file :-)
[03:33] <Bassetts> i uses nat networking
[03:34] <Frogzoo> ninian: ls -l
[03:34] <gareth> vanden: no - is it case sensitive?
[03:34] <cherwin> Bassetts: ipconfig? or network settings and then click the network adapter, i don't use Vista so just try it out :^)
[03:34] <vanden> gareth: I believe it is
[03:34] <brett_> can anyone lend me a hand with my sound? I've stuffed it up somehow
[03:34] <ninian> I thought there would be a command for a single file maybe ... but thanks.
[03:34] <vanden> gareth: didn't work how?
[03:35] <cherwin> ninian: ls -l <file>
[03:35] <vanden> ninian: ls -la the_file_name
[03:35] <Bassetts> cherwin: am i missing something here?
[03:35] <ninian> thx !
[03:35] <cherwin> Bassetts: where?
[03:36] <Bassetts> cherwin: i have shared my documents, with my vista user in the allowed users, gone to smb://ip of vista
[03:36] <Bassetts> i get nothing
[03:36] <buzzed> hmm i have a pdf the closes when i open it...
[03:36] <Bassetts> oo wait
[03:36] <cherwin> Bassetts: turn the firewall off in your Vista guest
[03:37] <gareth> vanden: looks like it's a case senstive issue. It originally said no such directoy on the input directory, but I've corrected the case, and now  it says no such destination - so I'm going to check the case for that
[03:37] <vanden> gareth: do you know about tab completion?
[03:38] <vanden> gareth: can save typing and *mistyping*. enter a letter or two of the path on the cmd line and hit tab.
[03:38] <nf4> i forgot what i typed in terminal to manualy change the respitorys
[03:39] <vanden> gareth: if nothing happens the first tab hit, do it again
[03:39] <Bassetts> cherwin, in ubuntu i put in the vista username, and it has no pass, but it wont let me in
[03:39] <rigonatti> does anyone a good SFTP SSL tools in Ubuntu ??
[03:39] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Shhot :)
[03:40] <cherwin> because you cannot have a passwordless login
[03:40] <Bassetts> cherwin, ok
[03:40] <itai> help
[03:40] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass: i need to install tar.gz that synaptic won't find for me. also tried adding extra repositories didn't worl
[03:40] <_Mr_Denix_> work*
[03:40] <on2see> Hi, I just installed Hoary Hedgehog from a cd, and I realized Dapper Drake is out. Is it possible to auto-update to it, without downloading a cd image
[03:41] <itai> can anyone help me with grub restoring?
[03:41] <Bassetts> cherwin, even with pass no luck
[03:41] <gareth> vanden: I've corrected the spelling and case, and it's worked. Many thanks for your help.
[03:41] <schloob> on2see: add the repositories to sources.list
[03:41] <on2see> how do I do that
[03:41] <vanden> gareth: NP :-)
 hey all. Recent upgrade to dapper made my laptop's synaptic touchpad flaky. Lots of forum posts last I looked but no obvious solution. I'm not too experienced in Linux. Pointers?
[03:41] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: 1. What's the package name? Are you sure it's not in the repos? 2. Where did you get the .tar.gz, can you provide a link ?
[03:42] <^^angusta> Trying to setup a scsi array, drives installed, and scsi adapter configured, but what do I do to add them to ubuntu?
[03:42] <Guard] [an> hi, how can i install shockwave please ? is there shockwave for linux ???
[03:42] <itai> anyone knows anything about restoring grub?
[03:42] <^^angusta> Guard] [an, go to macromedia.com, look for download link
[03:42] <_Mr_Denix_> fake-1.1.9.tar.gz       http://www.vergenet.net/linux/fake/download/1.1.9/      it's not in repos
[03:42] <neutrinomass> !flash
[03:42] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:42] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass   fake-1.1.9.tar.gz       http://www.vergenet.net/linux/fake/download/1.1.9/      it's not in repos
[03:42] <vanden> !touchpad
[03:42] <ubotu> hmm... touchpad is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowTo
[03:42] <^^angusta> !scsi
[03:42] <ubotu> ^^angusta: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:43] <gnube> itai, You can install it with apt-get install grub
[03:43] <newbieboyD> cherwin: thanks am playing all my mp3 now bye see ya
[03:43] <itai> thanks but
[03:43] <cherwin> newbieboyD: np
[03:43] <itai> i installed vista and lost my grub
[03:43] <rigonatti> does anyone a good SFTP SSL tools in Ubuntu ??
[03:43] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: It is :) It's in universe.
[03:43] <itai> 'so i cant log in..
[03:43] <cherwin> Bassetts: that's odd, try to connect with smb://ip address/c$
[03:43] <neutrinomass> ubotu, tell _Mr_Denix_ about universe
[03:44] <cherwin> Bassetts: and then use Administrator as user and supply a password
[03:44] <reaper> hey
[03:44] <^^angusta> itai, you will need a linux boot disk
[03:44] <Vaske_Car> how to install Sendmail?
[03:44] <^^angusta> try booting with ubuntu live cd
[03:44] <itai> i booted with knoppix
[03:44] <^^angusta> ok, go to prompt and run grub
[03:44] <jadaz87> also how do i get ttyX up to 1024x768?
[03:44] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass : lol i tried to search for it (ctrl + F) and didn't found it ... okay thanks for the ubotu stuff on prv
[03:44] <reaper> how do i download the latest nvidia drivers?
[03:45] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: Enable universe, "reload" through synaptic and install fake ....
[03:45] <itai> supposedly "root(hd0,1)" but it sais "selected disk does not exist"
[03:45] <_Mr_Denix_> neutrinomass : thank you :)
[03:45] <Bassetts> cherwin: vista has no domain, is that why?
[03:46] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: If the repos aren't enabled it doesn't show up. You can use http://packages.ubuntu.com to search for it or /msg ubotu with "info fake" (it might need a leading ! )
[03:46] <gnube> itai, What happens is when you install windows it writes over your Master Boot Record
[03:46] <neutrinomass> _Mr_Denix_: You're welcome :)
[03:46] <_Mr_Denix_> :)
[03:46] <^^angusta> can anyone help me setup scsi disks in ubuntu, device manager shows one unknown disk
[03:46] <gnube> So if you want to dual boot it is best to install linux _after_ you install windows.
[03:46] <^^angusta> but can't do anything with it
[03:46] <itai> too late...
[03:46] <Noahj> jadaz87, set vga=0x318 after the kernel line in your menu.lst
[03:47] <vanden> The page <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowTo> seems to be about getting scrolling to work. But my touchpad is afflicted with jerky pointer syndrom and arbitrary clinking all over the place. Anyone know how I can fix?
[03:47] <rigonatti> does anyone know a good SFTP SSh tools in Ubuntu ??
[03:47] <cherwin> Bassetts: as i stated before, i don't use vista my friend so it's way above my head. Try it the other way around then and create a samba share on you linux host. Maybe that'll work.
[03:47] <jadaz87> Noahj: where is that menu.1st?
[03:47] <gnube> itai, So if you want to dual boot it is best to install linux _after_ you install windows.
[03:47] <winbond> does anyone use the official bittorrent client? , by bram cohen
[03:47] <Noahj> jadaz87, /boot/grub
[03:48] <jadaz87> Noahj: thanks
[03:48] <itai> gnube , you mean i need to reinstall linux now?
[03:48] <thaytan> so...
[03:48] <Beta_M> itai:  no, you can do it without reinstal
[03:48] <Bassetts> cherwin: what ip should i use for my ubuntu share then? internal ip?
[03:48] <snoops> gnube he can use the live cd, chroot into his ubuntu install, reinstall grub
[03:49] <snoops> and be done with it
[03:49] <itai> i though so...
[03:49] <brosio> 15:48:39.430548 IP <IP_ADDRESS>.36831 > <IP_ADDRESS>.5353:  60595 PTR? <IP_ADDRESS>.in-addr.arpa. (46)
[03:49] <brosio> 15:48:39.929639 IP <IP_ADDRESS>.36831 > <IP_ADDRESS>.5353:  60595 PTR? <IP_ADDRESS>.in-addr.arpa. (46)
[03:49] <thaytan> I have an em64t machine that completely fails to boot the installer, because it can't start the X server
[03:49] <Beta_M> !dualboot
[03:49] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[03:49] <brosio> where are going this packets ?
[03:49] <gnube> itai, I am not sure that you need to re-install linux, just that your master boot record has been over-written.
[03:49] <Iam8up|lpy> what's the window manager with the cubed desktop...it begins with comp...runs on xgl...
[03:49] <thaytan> is my only option to install via the alternate CD?
[03:49] <Iam8up|lpy> the koronaa live cd has it installed...
[03:49] <cherwin> Bassetts: connect from within Vista with the ip that's on your eth0 i guess
[03:49] <vanden> ciao
[03:50] <Bassetts> ok cherwin
[03:50] <gnube> itai, Apparently snoops has a recommendation which sounds doable, that is what I would do.
[03:50] <itai> snoops, whats the command for reinstalling grub?
[03:51] <snoops> I'll get the guide.. one minute
[03:51] <jadaz87> Noahj: should it be before or after the defoption=quiet splash?
[03:51] <nikusan> itai, search wiki.ubuntu.com for "restore grub"
[03:52] <Noahj> jadaz87: After I think... you might have to set video=vesafb after that
[03:52] <jadaz87> Noahj: what does that option do? i have a laptop screen btw
[03:52] <snowblink> hi - how do I set the keyboard/gnome terminal to not send ] ^5 when I press page down?
[03:53] <gnube> itai, snoops says; use the live cd, chroot into his ubuntu install, reinstall grub
[03:53] <itai> nikusan , i did , it sais " root (hd0,1) " but linux sais selected disk does not exist
[03:53] <gnube> itai, Did you overwrite your entire disk?
[03:53] <Beta_M> itai:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:53] <itai> did not
[03:53] <Penguin_> I keep getting this erorr when ever I try to make a program I get this error: make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[03:53] <snoops> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RecoveringGrub#head-bf0ad184b84304b51996a11111a1901667529a80
[03:53] <snoops> oh damnit Beta_M
[03:53] <Noahj> jadaz87: are you using 2.6?
[03:53] <snoops> ;)
[03:53] <jadaz87> Noahj: yes
[03:54] <snowblink> Penguin_, what are you trying to make?
[03:54] <reaper> Hey,
[03:54] <Beta_M> snoops:  sorry, you'll get the good karma the next time
[03:54] <Beta_M> q;-)
[03:54] <reaper> my monitor only goes upto 1280x1024 @ 72Hz, but ubuntu is making it display as 75Hz,
[03:54] <gnube> Karma? Wheres the karma?! I want some.
[03:54] <reaper> how do i force it to go to 72?
[03:54] <Penguin_> a texure converter until
[03:54] <cherwin> Penguin_: first type ./configure
[03:54] <Noahj> jada87: it enables the framebuffer... I think... I'm going to try it on my other machine and see how it goes first, it's been a while since I've done this (last time I did I used gentoo)
[03:55] <itai> THANKS FOR THE LINKS, WILL TRY THEM OUT
[03:55] <Beta_M> gnube:  you have to help somebody, and you receive brownie points
[03:55] <Beta_M> but you have to imagine them
[03:55] <Penguin_> I've tryied that
[03:55] <gnube> Beta_M, heh!
[03:55] <jadaz87> Noahj: oh ok :-)
[03:55] <Bassetts> =( i just want to send like 3 files to vista
[03:56] <Beta_M> Bassetts:  what's the problem?
[03:56] <Bassetts> Beta_M: i have vista in a vm and cant send files to it
[03:56] <Beta_M> sorry, virtual machines are above my head for now
[03:56] <Iam8up|lpy> Bassetts - windows shares?
[03:57] <gnube> Bassetts, Which virtual machine?
[03:57] <Noahj> jadaz87: Yeah, just add vga=0x318 video=vesafb to the end of the kernel line and it'll work
[03:57] <gnube> VMware, zen?
[03:57] <reaper> how do i download the latest nvidia drivers?
[03:57] <Bassetts> gnube: vmware server
[03:57] <gnube> or rather xen?
[03:58] <Kirlyin> I'm a complete newbie to ubuntu...how do you install VLC? (i think there might be something wrong with the synaptic package manager)
[03:58] <livevil> hi
[03:58] <snoops> Noahj do you have a guide for changing that to whatever res you want? (in particular 1920x1200) :)
[03:58] <snowblink> !vlc
[03:58] <ubotu> from memory, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[03:58] <gnomefreak> !vlc
[03:58] <snoops> Kirlyin you need to enable the univese repostiroes
[03:58] <Beta_M> Kirlyin:  System -> Admin -> Synaptic package mannager
[03:58] <gnube> Kirlyin, Probably nothing wrong with synaptic, you have to change your source.list
[03:58] <jimmy89> sry to ask again, but anyone know how to config wep key#2 using networkmanager?
[03:58] <Noahj> snoops: I think it says something in the grub manual...
[03:58] <snoops> k
[03:59] <planetcall> goodevening all
[03:59] <Beta_M> hi
[03:59] <livevil> hi to all
[03:59] <m0gsi> Hello all i was just wondering if there was a package out there that could help me tweat the gnome GUI
[03:59] <Kirlyin> well it says:  Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:59] <gnube> Kirlyin, Edit /etc/apt/sources.list enable the universe repository and synaptic will work to add VLC
[03:59] <planetcall> anyone having problem with Azureus slide-in messages at lower right of screen ?
[03:59] <livevil> does someone use amule? I don't know how to configure my firewall (firestarter). Can someone help me?
[03:59] <planetcall> they dont seem to go away