[04:00] <Scunizi> zetheroo, you have an issue with java.. if you're trying to install asureus from an external source you might want to try from synaptic first.. It might eliminate the errors.
[04:00] <Scunizi> MythbuntuGuest42, /join #kubuntu
[04:00] <Elliot> hello
[04:00] <meoblast001> wastrel: the first line says what it should have, the second what it does
[04:00] <hoohoo> scunizi is  a nice guy
[04:00] <Scunizi> MythbuntuGuest42, you can have both channels open at the same time.
[04:00] <hoohoo> hello
[04:01] <zetheroo> Scunizi: I installed it from Add/Remove.... thats a safe way to install apps.... no!?
[04:01] <meoblast001> wastrel: i just commented out and put in what it said it should have
[04:01] <MythbuntuGuest42> ok thanks.. you all are great.. let me go bother them since i am tring to install it
[04:01] <Scunizi> hoohoo, I know.  I shoulda let him stew for a while.
[04:01] <PhUBUNTU> hello
[04:01] <Elliot> who here is smart?
[04:01] <PhUBUNTU> how can i change the login and password of phpmyadmin???
[04:01] <Scunizi> zetheroo, yep.. try reinstalling java.. beyond that .. sorry someone else will have to figure it out.
[04:01] <Creed> How do I set a static IP using CLI?
[04:01] <MythbuntuGuest42> i know.. now that yall helped me.. i do not want to leave
[04:02] <Flannel> Creed: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[04:02] <hoohoo> yeah , i'm new ubuntuer ,so where should I start?
[04:02] <Pelo> Elliot, if you have an ubuntu related question just ask it
[04:02] <Flannel> hoohoo: help.ubuntu.com
[04:02] <untz> Some of my icons on my Desktop are huge such as Azureus and Firefox... Why is this?
[04:02] <hoohoo> before I study redhat..
[04:02] <PhUBUNTU> anybody know???
[04:02] <Scunizi> MythbuntuGuest42,  don't!  you'll pick up lots more info here that's generic to most everythink
[04:02] <Pelo> hoohoo,  with what ever you want to, your choice
[04:02] <Scunizi> *everything
[04:02] <meoblast001> yay.. my program returns "make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop." when i type "make"
[04:02] <wastrel> untz: you can right-click on it and choose "resize" or something
[04:02] <Creed> Another thing, my X server fails (no screens found). I had to use the Alternate CD to install (installed fine, X still crashes).
[04:02] <hoohoo> I am a java developer
[04:02] <zetheroo> Scunizi: I have sun-java6-bin and java-common installed.... is that all I need?
[04:03] <Scunizi> zetheroo, I have no idea..
[04:03] <nickrud> hoohoo: to get an idea about packages: !apt , !components
[04:03] <hoohoo> so I wanna develop java porgram on unbuntu
[04:03] <mohammed> Hi
[04:03] <meoblast001> i mean "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."
[04:03] <nickrud> !apt | hoohoo
[04:03] <ubotu> hoohoo: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:03] <Flannel> hoohoo: It's the same as on any other platform
[04:03] <mohammed> how are you
[04:03] <Scunizi> I am fine. how are you?
[04:03] <MythbuntuGuest42> ok
[04:03] <zetheroo> Anyone here know about Java and Ubuntu?
[04:03] <wastrel> !java
[04:03] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[04:03] <Flannel> !anyone | zetheroo
[04:03] <ubotu> zetheroo: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:03] <hoohoo> I am used to rpm , it's dump with apt.. how to , so difrereent with rpm
[04:03] <Pelo> zetheroo, ask a specific qestion please
[04:04] <wastrel> Creed: time to start looking into what the proper driver is for your card
[04:04] <MythbuntuGuest42> my ultimate goal here is to run the myth tv stuff and get rid of my dvr
[04:04] <Pelo> hoohoo,  if you are running gui you might want to give synaptic a look , in the admin menu
[04:04] <mohammed> How To install adsl modem dynmode A360 on Ubuntu
[04:04] <MythbuntuGuest42> my friend showed me the video for linux mce
[04:04] <MythbuntuGuest42> it is great.
[04:04] <hoohoo> thanks pelo , i 'll try it
[04:04] <zetheroo> Pelo: I get this error when running Azureus http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38980/
[04:04] <Scunizi> MythbuntuGuest42, that'd be great.. however the company that provided free tv listings just stopped.. something else will come up.
[04:04] <rowdy> i am getting invalid or corrupt kernel image when i try to install ubuntu
[04:04] <zetheroo> Pelo: from what I gather its a Java error...
[04:04] <Pelo> mohammed, you should start by looking for your model in the forum and the hardware page   www.ubuntuforums.org  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:05] <Pelo> zetheroo, which java are you running ?
[04:05] <mohammed> thank you Pelo
[04:05] <MythbuntuGuest42> any one try to use it instead of there tivo?
[04:05] <zetheroo> Pelo: I have java-common and sun-java6-bin installed
[04:06] <zetheroo> Pelo: and sun-java6-jre
[04:06] <MythbuntuGuest42> anyone know the best way for me to go?
[04:06] <wastrel> sudo update-alternatives -config java
[04:06] <Pelo> zetheroo, did you install java from the repos or from the sun website ?
[04:06] <j2daosh> how do i automate email generatoration using 'mail'?
[04:06] <Creed> My card is a old ATI (not sure what, any way to find out?) and Ive tried the fglrx drivers, X still fails.
[04:06] <Scunizi> MythbuntuGuest42, re-phrase your question again but make it complete.. someone should pick it up.
[04:06] <zetheroo> Pelo: I installed everything from the Synaptic Package manager
[04:06] <zetheroo> repos?
[04:06] <nickrud> Creed: lspci should tell you something about your card
[04:06] <wastrel> Creed: lspci | grep VGA
[04:07] <Pelo> zetheroo, repositores that synaptic uses,  you did fine try what wastrel suggested
[04:07] <Stifts> for older ATI cards the free radeon driver is fine
[04:07] <zetheroo>  lspci | grep VGA?
[04:08] <Jork> hello
[04:08] <zetheroo> Pelo: lspci | grep VGA?
[04:08] <Jork> can anyone tell me a winrar alternative?
[04:08] <Stifts> rar
[04:08] <bruenig> !info unrar
[04:08] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1 (feisty), package size 94 kB, installed size 228 kB
[04:08] <Pelo> zetheroo, <wastrel> sudo update-alternatives -config java
[04:08] <Jork> thxQ!
[04:08] <nickrud> --config , rather
[04:08] <MythbuntuGuest42> oh.. just wanting anyones advice to how i should go with mythtv??
[04:08] <wastrel> yeah sry :]
[04:09] <MythbuntuGuest42> not sure what linux mce is?
[04:09] <zetheroo> Pelo: update-alternatives: unknown argument `-config'
[04:09] <nickrud> eh, typos are my achilles heel as well
[04:09] <Pelo> zetheroo, but if you want my opinion, ditch azureus and try another (non-java) bittorrent client,   like  deluge, utorrent on wine, ktorrent or others
[04:09] <MythbuntuGuest42> or mythbuntu
[04:09] <Forager> Question:  Is there a place where I can look up hardware supported in 7.04?  Specifically Nics?
[04:09] <nickrud> zetheroo: two dashes on --config
[04:09] <zetheroo> thanks
[04:09] <meoblast001> "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."????????????????
[04:10] <meoblast001> i get that when i type make after ./config
[04:10] <meoblast001> ./configure
[04:10] <bruenig> I hate when errors put so many question marks at the end
[04:10] <nickrud> meoblast001: then configure failed
[04:10] <Pelo> meoblast001, look in the source folder check for a INSTALL file,  read it
[04:10] <meoblast001> Pelo: already did
[04:10] <meoblast001> Pelo: this is my own program
[04:10] <meoblast001> Pelo: KDevelop made it
[04:11] <zetheroo> Pelo: ok... I am gonna go with Utorrent then
[04:11] <Pelo> meoblast001, I think you need to find a channel for the language you are using then
[04:11] <Pelo> zetheroo, you'll need to installl wine
[04:11] <zetheroo> Pelo: yes... I have already... and I run Crossover
[04:12] <Lifeisfunny> that "help" entry on the ubuntu feisty starter guide for firestarter is bogus
[04:12] <Pelo> Lifeisfunny, most of the firestarter stuff if a bit on the thin side
[04:13] <PhUBUNTU> who use phpmyadmin??????
[04:13] <warbler> Forager:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:13] <PhUBUNTU> ??
[04:13] <Pelo> PhUBUNTU, try looking for a php channel
[04:13] <Forager> thanks, Warbler.
[04:13] <warbler> k
[04:13] <PhUBUNTU> Ok
[04:13] <Pelo> Lifeisfunny,  do you have a good reason to use a firewall in ubuntu or are you just comming from windows ?
[04:14] <Lifeisfunny> pelo, yeah, pretty much a nube with linux
[04:14] <sebastian> hey guys
[04:14] <Emash> what came before tcp/ip
[04:14] <Emash> ?
[04:14] <sebastian> how do i add the helix support to banshee?
[04:14] <Pelo> Lifeisfunny, don'T worry about the firewall then, it's not a neccesity in linux,  not like it is in windows
[04:14] <Lifeisfunny> I did some scanns and found ports set at closed, I'd like them stealthed
[04:15] <I`ll_Begin> these linux packages are going to take forever to download
[04:15] <wastrel> darn linux
[04:15] <MythbuntuGuest42> why is the firewall not so important in linux?
[04:15] <Pelo> sebastian,  pluggins ususaly need to be dropped in a folder in the settings folder for the app.. chick in /home for a /.banshee folder
[04:15] <wastrel> MythbuntuGuest42: because ubuntu at least doesn't have any ports open by default
[04:15] <nickrud> MythbuntuGuest42: there's no listening apps by default to be subverted
[04:16] <MythbuntuGuest42> oh
[04:16] <Pelo> Lifeisfunny,  man iptables  it is the cli userspace for netfilter wich is the actual firewall,  firestarter is jsut a gui frontend
[04:16] <sebastian> Pelo: the thing with helix is that it's got two different engines, one is helix based and one is gstreamer based ... i am wondering how to get the helix based version for ubuntu
[04:16] <Scunizi> MythbuntuGuest42, hopefully you have a router though.. as an extra layer of protection.
[04:16] <MythbuntuGuest42> what about kubuntu
[04:16] <wastrel> same thing
[04:16] <MythbuntuGuest42> ok
[04:16] <Lifeisfunny> pelo, how hacker safe is it when set to closed?
[04:16] <Pelo> sebastian, did you check in the repos ?
[04:17] <sebastian> yeah
[04:17] <sebastian> no helix banshee
[04:17] <Pelo> Lifeisfunny, don'T give out your user password and don'T run as root and you'll be fine
[04:17] <sebastian> Pelo: although it's very common in other distros
[04:17] <Pelo> sebastian, just helix
[04:17] <heguru> Pelo: I wouldn't recommend that. Even if you share a file on Linux, samba listens on both your Internet and LAN port (unlike windows where internet connections have netbios/ms file sharing disabled by default)
[04:17] <nickrud> Lifeisfunny: if it's closed, that means nothing can talk to it. In fact
[04:17] <sebastian> Pelo: yeah helix stand-alone exists ... i've got thta
[04:17] <nickrud> most of those 'closed' ports don't even have anything behind it.
[04:17] <tumbleweed_> that new security vuln is creeping me out
[04:17] <meoblast001> thats why
[04:18] <meoblast001> i didnt have automake
[04:18] <Lifeisfunny> I'm becoming disillusioned with so much back and forth fixing required with computers
[04:18] <Pelo> heguru, what ?
[04:18] <Kstrings> Lifeisfunny:  If you want security, get a cheap router and NAT out.  Tell the router not to respond to anonymous requests and you will be fine.
[04:18] <tumbleweed_> It's pretty serious
[04:18] <heguru> Pelo: i was talking about your recommendation to not use a firewall
[04:18] <tumbleweed_> allows remote code execution
[04:18] <Lifeisfunny> barely touch it and it seems to fall apart
[04:18] <tumbleweed_> and works even on the base system
[04:18] <Pelo> heguru,  if you can help Lifeisfunny  just do it
[04:18] <Scunizi> Lifeisfunny, you gotta look at it as a never ending adventure.. something new around the corner all the time.
[04:18] <wastrel> tumbleweed_: which?
[04:18] <tumbleweed_> you haven't heard of it?
[04:18] <tumbleweed_> it's pretty damn serious
[04:18] <tumbleweed_> been blogged about everywhere
[04:18] <tumbleweed_> http://rafflelot.com/?=new-ubuntu-security-vuln
[04:19] <wastrel> my compter is broken.
[04:19] <Pelo> Lifeisfunny, is this a home computer or a business one ?
[04:19] <Lifeisfunny> Pelo, home
[04:19] <MythbuntuGuest42> so.. if i use my old pc as with mythubunu.. as a tivo.. then, i am ok with no firewall
[04:19] <Lifeisfunny> connect straight to a modem
[04:19] <wastrel> !ops | tumbleweed_
[04:19] <meoblast001> Pelo: can you help me with another problem?
[04:19] <ubotu> tumbleweed_: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[04:19] <Scunizi> MythbuntuGuest42, yep.
[04:19] <Pelo> Lifeisfunny,  personnaly I don'T worry about it ,
[04:19] <Lifeisfunny> single unit in the house
[04:19] <Pelo> meoblast001, I can try
[04:19] <meoblast001> configure.in:4: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE
[04:19] <meoblast001> configure.in:8: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PROG_LIBTOOL
[04:19] <Lifeisfunny> pelo, alrighty
[04:19] <MythbuntuGuest42> cool
[04:19] <Lifeisfunny> I'll take your advise
[04:20] <Pelo> meoblast001, I can'T help with that sorry
[04:20] <meoblast001> how about this?
[04:20] <meoblast001> ./configure: line 1636: syntax error near unexpected token `config.h'
[04:20] <meoblast001> ./configure: line 1636: `AM_CONFIG_HEADER(config.h)'
[04:20] <tumbleweed_>     CAN I COME OUT OF THE CELLAR (I'M DONE BEING GAY NOW)
[04:20] <tumbleweed_>                   /
[04:20] <tumbleweed_>           ,==.              |~~~
[04:20] <tumbleweed_>          /  66\             |
[04:20] <tumbleweed_>          \c  -_)         |~~~
[04:20] <gnomefreak> wastrel: ?
[04:20] <tumbleweed_>           `) (           |
[04:20] <tumbleweed_>           /   \       |~~~
[04:20] <nickrud> lol, that got some attention
[04:20] <Scunizi> yea!
[04:20] <MythbuntuGuest42> that is what is getting my hooked on this linux mce stuff..
[04:20] <I`ll_Begin> What the..
[04:21] <gnomefreak> sorry couldnt get browser to open
[04:21] <Pelo> Lifeisfunny, I'm a home user with one comp, directly connected to a dsl modem no router, and I don'T use the firewall , and I don'T worry,  I worried in windows quite a bit
[04:21] <mneptok> pay no attention to that man behind the curtain! the great and powerful OZ has spoken!
[04:21] <DIL> yes go traigt to the closet
[04:21] <MythbuntuGuest42> man after my friend showed me the video with the gyro remote i am hooked.. but i do not know anything about linux
[04:22] <Pelo> MythbuntuGuest42,  I think there is a mythubuntu channel somewhere
[04:22] <MythbuntuGuest42> that is where i thought i was
[04:23] <Pelo> no this is the ubuntu channel,  we deal usualy with installation questions , for the os itself
[04:23] <Bad_kate> My camera (canon 350D) has recently stopped working - gets a "ptp i/o error" when connected to ubuntu. Does anyone know how to solve this?
[04:23] <MythbuntuGuest42> it says #ubunto-mythtv
[04:23] <Pelo> !mythtv
[04:23] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[04:23] <DIL> \quit
[04:23] <meoblast001> Pelo: what does automake do? i just successfully ran it
[04:23] <nixno0b> anyone know a program that burns vcds from mp4 format?
[04:24] <Pelo> MythbuntuGuest42,  #ubuntu-mythtv
[04:24] <Pelo> meoblast001, no clue
[04:24] <Scunizi> nixno0b, have you tried k3b?
[04:24] <w51956>
[04:24] <meoblast001> anyone know what automake does?
[04:24] <Pelo> nixno0b, devede
[04:24] <nixno0b> Scunizi, it only supports mp1 and mp2
[04:24] <Malachi> If I wanted to stream video, what's the best format to do it?
[04:24] <w51956>
[04:24] <nickrud> !cn | w51956
[04:24] <ubotu> w51956: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[04:24] <Forager> What's the difference between an ext2 and ext3 partition?
[04:24] <Pelo> Scunizi, he needs something to do the conversion first
[04:25] <Bad_kate> My camera (canon 350D) has recently stopped working - gets a "ptp i/o error" when connected to ubuntu. Does anyone know how to solve this?
[04:25] <nixno0b> Pelo, thanks ill try it now.
[04:25] <Pelo> Forager, ext3 has journaling
[04:25] <nickrud> Forager: ext3 provides journaling on an ext2 partition
[04:25] <w51956>
[04:25] <Pelo> Bad_kate,  look up the error msg in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[04:25] <kittyhawk> hi
[04:25] <Scunizi> nixno0b, sorry. I'm stuck.. maybe mencoder will convert but I don't know how.
[04:25] <chibitk> hey how do i install cedega?
[04:26] <Forager> I"m new to Non-Microsoft systems.. What exact;y does that mean, Pelo and nickrud?
[04:26] <Pelo> chibitk,  you get ti from their site, it is not a free software
[04:26] <MythbuntuGuest42> well yall helped me earlier.. so i do not want to leave. until i  at least get this kubuntu installed
[04:26] <rowdy> i am getting invalid or corrupt kernel image when i try to install ubuntu
[04:26] <chibitk> well i have the software......
[04:26] <kittyhawk> I keep getting an error message from the system updater, while it's trying to upgrade linux-image
[04:26] <Pelo> Forager, I think it means it keeps track or changes
[04:26] <nickrud> Forager: journaling is, very roughly, a record of changes that are made to a disk. If the disk fails, it can nearly always recover lost info from the journal
[04:26] <Pelo> kittyhawk,  are you running gutsy ?
[04:26] <chibitk> and like my wine is all messed up how i tried uninstalling it....
[04:27] <kittyhawk> oh, nevermind I just figured out that /boot is full
[04:27] <chibitk> and when i run it to re-install its still messed up
[04:27] <Forager> awesome.  Thanks!
[04:27] <nickrud> Forager: read failed as computer shut down badly
[04:27] <simplechat> hey, does anyone have any particular favourite torrent downloaders for ubuntu?
[04:27] <Pelo> chibitk, please don'T use the enter key for punctuation , it makes it hard to follow
[04:28] <meoblast001> what does "make: *** [install-recursive]  Error 1" from make install mean?
[04:28] <Pelo> simplechat,  deluge-torrent is comming along nicely but I prefer to run utorrent on wine
[04:28] <chibitk> ok pelo, how do i uninstall wine completely so the txt isnt messed up when i reinstall it?
[04:28] <Pelo> meoblast001, I think you need ##linux for those kinds of questions
[04:28] <Pelo> chibitk, use synaptic
[04:28] <meoblast001> Pelo: i needed to sudo make install :D
[04:29] <nixno0b> Pelo, devede just makes a file that i can use in k3b, correct?
[04:29] <chibitk> i did..... and when i reinstall it the txt is all messed up
[04:29] <Pelo> chibitk, and I think you ahve a bad version of wine,  try the latest
[04:29] <rowdy> #ubuntu-india
[04:29] <chibitk> hmmm well is wine what i should use to run WoW BC?
[04:29] <Pelo> nixno0b,  devede will let you encode files to the proper format and make an iso to burn to the cd with k3b or anyother
[04:30] <Flannel> chibitk: Yes
[04:30] <oblique> "unload debugger and try again" msg for max payne 1 using wine..wot to do?
[04:30] <nixno0b> Pelo, thanks.
[04:30] <Pelo> chibitk, try asking about it in #winehq
[04:30] <RoC_MasterMind__> what's "roaming mode" for a network card?
[04:30] <Flannel> chibitk:
[04:30] <Flannel> chibitk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[04:30] <Pelo> RoC_MasterMind, looking for wifi connections
[04:30] <kittyhawk> is there any good way to profile my system and find out the best ways to make it faster?  This computer's starting to get old and everything feels slow, but I'm sure there's lots of things I could easily turn off
[04:30] <nixno0b> chibitk, i think wow runs well under wine
[04:30] <simplechat> hey, can ubuntu install next to a windows partition that hasn't finished installing?
[04:30] <RoC_MasterMind__> But like...on an Ethernet nic?
[04:30] <simplechat> ?
[04:31] <RoC_MasterMind__> What I want is when I plug it into a different networ, it tries to get another address, instead of just sitting there with invalid DHCP settings for the old network
[04:31] <RoC_MasterMind__> simplechat, yes.
[04:31] <Pelo> kittyhawk,  you can do a google search for tweaks and you can also look into turning off unused services
[04:32] <simplechat> will it boot back to the installing xp instance, and let it finish install?
[04:32] <Bad_kate> My camera (canon 350D) has recently stopped working - gets a "ptp i/o error" when connected to ubuntu. Does anyone know how to solve this?
[04:32] <simplechat> microsofts f***ed with my keys
[04:32] <simplechat> :(
[04:32] <wastrel> RoC_MasterMind__:  gnome network manager does that i think
[04:32] <RoC_MasterMind__> yeah but what does it mean??
[04:32] <wastrel> RoC_MasterMind__: mostly i just do that myself
[04:32] <simplechat> so i'm switching over to ubuntu by force (i like it, but this is the first time for my main desktop)
[04:33] <sear_yoda> hey folks - I just had a feisty -> gutsy dist-upgrade die halfway through, and now i have broken packages and update-manager no longer works. any ideas?
[04:33] <Flannel> sear_yoda: ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support, thanks
[04:33] <Pelo> simplechat,  ask again and this time don'T use the enter key for punctuation please
[04:33] <wastrel> sounds like your upgrade b0rked
[04:33] <sear_yoda> yes, yes it did
[04:33] <MythbuntuGuest42> WOW! who ever helped me earlier... it is working!!! Thanks!! I see my drive now and it is formatting
[04:33] <sear_yoda> without realizing it was a bad idea, i updated by sources.list to gutsy repositories
[04:33] <sear_yoda> so i've upgraded a ton of packages
[04:33] <Flannel> sear_yoda: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support, not here, thanks.
[04:34] <sear_yoda> okay, thanks
[04:34] <Pelo> sear_yoda, ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:34] <nickrud> sear_yoda: try sudo apt-get -f install while you're going
[04:34] <Pelo> nickrud, don't encourage him
[04:34] <simplechat> Pelo: Can ubuntu install next to an installing winxp instance? windows isn't validating my install so i'm going to have to leave it like that until i can somehow satiate it (footrubs?). I would like to install ubuntu so that my computer is usefull, and would like to know if that means that i need to rereinstall windows (and then ubuntu) later.
[04:34] <wastrel> it's going to be a backup & reinstall anyway
[04:35] <sear_yoda> he'll encourage me if he wants, Pelo :P
[04:35] <nickrud> nah, I'll listen to Pelo
[04:35] <Pelo> simplechat,  the ubuntu instaler will let you resize your windows partition so you can install ubuntu and dual boot
[04:35] <wastrel> simplechat: ubuntu does'nt care what state windows is in.
[04:35] <Flannel> simplechat: No, you shouldn't need to.  Windows is already installed fully, I believe.
[04:35] <simplechat> ok
[04:36] <verb3k> simplechat, many answers :)
[04:36] <Forager> woah, Pelo...   Won't resizing a Windows Partition result in the deletion of all that data?
[04:36] <Flannel> Forager: no
[04:36] <wastrel> non-destructive resizing
[04:36] <simplechat> i have a 120gig partition for windows (all it'll read) and 180 gig of free space. Can i just use the "use largest contiguous free space" option?
[04:36] <wastrel> it's fancy
[04:36] <wastrel> absolutely
[04:36] <wastrel> no need to resize if you already have free space on the drive
[04:36] <Pelo> Forager, you only resize the partition to use the empty space to make a new partition
[04:36] <simplechat> excelent :)
[04:37] <simplechat> oklopol, its formatting now
[04:37] <simplechat> *ok
[04:37] <verb3k> wastrel, unpartitioned space I guess.....I think he means a free space partitioned with win
[04:37] <simplechat> windows will come up as a boot option on grub, i'm assuming?
[04:37] <Flannel> simplechat: yep
[04:37] <Stifts> yes
[04:37] <simplechat> verb3k, windows only recognised the disk as 120 gig, for some odd reason.
[04:37] <Pelo> simplechat,  it should but if it doesn'T we can tell you how to add it
[04:38] <simplechat> Pelo, Flannel, thanks :)
[04:38] <verb3k> guys what's the file that contains my saved passwords in Firefox? and can I move it from windows to ubuntu and use it there?
[04:38] <HHornblower> is this where I ask questions about Gusty issues?
[04:38] <simplechat> Pelo: Can i read/write to my ntfs disk from ubuntu?
[04:38] <Pelo> HHornblower, in #ubuntu+1
[04:38] <heathen> hello
[04:38] <HHornblower> Pelo: thanks. :)
[04:38] <Pelo> simplechat,   you'll need to add a package to write
[04:39] <verb3k> simplechat, yes ...you can
[04:39] <MythbuntuGuest42> ahh man.. it says missing operating system
[04:39] <simplechat> Package? just an apt-get?
[04:39] <MythbuntuGuest42> i thought it installed?
[04:39] <MythbuntuGuest42> what should i do?
[04:39] <Pelo> simplechat, yes pretty much
[04:39] <MythbuntuGuest42> try again?
[04:39] <Pelo> !ntfs-3g > simplechat check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[04:40] <Pelo> !enter | MythbuntuGuest42
[04:40] <ubotu> MythbuntuGuest42: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:40] <Pelo> !who | MythbuntuGuest42
[04:40] <ubotu> MythbuntuGuest42: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[04:40] <MythbuntuGuest42> ok
[04:40] <Pelo> MythbuntuGuest42,  and also , none of us have any idea what you are on about atm or where you are at in your proccesdure
[04:41] <simplechat> oklopol, thansk pelo
[04:41] <heathen> half of us dont know where we are anyway, let alone you
[04:41] <Forager> !ntfs-3g | Forager
[04:41] <MythbuntuGuest42> that is funny
[04:41] <Pelo> Forager,  if you want to query the bot for yourself do  /msg ubotu !trigger
[04:42] <bruenig> no need for the ! in /msg
[04:42] <Forager> Illbedarned.. It worked...
[04:42] <cdm10> is there a good way to take a tar.bz2 and split it into cd-sized chunks, and be able to recombine them again?
[04:42] <Forager> cool.. I'll try to rem that.
[04:42] <bruenig> cdm10, split and then cat
[04:42] <bruenig> cdm10, well split, burn, move over, then cat
[04:43] <cdm10> bruenig: ok, I knew cat, but I should have at least tried man split :)
[04:43] <tigga_> if using wine 0.9.45 on ubuntu 7.04 do some games like max payne 1 play slower for others as they do for me?...and why?
[04:43] <Forager> just so I'm clear on this ntfs-3g thing.. I run Ubuntu and the wife runs win2000, I can host her files and she can map to by drive (assuming I have Samba)\
[04:43] <bruenig> be something like split -b 700000000 file
[04:44] <Pelo> tigga_, you should probably ask in #winehq
[04:44] <Pelo> Forager, no
[04:44] <cdm10> bruenig: ok. I'll probably play it safe and make it a bit smaller than that.
[04:44] <tigga_> thanks bruenig
[04:45] <Pelo> Forager, ntfs-3g is so ubuntu can write to an NTFS partition,  it has nothing to do with samba, where the host comp will do the read/writing
[04:45] <edz> how do i install codecs for totem movie player?
[04:46] <Pelo> edz,  open synaptic  , search for gstreamer , install all the gstreamer0.10  you see
[04:46] <edz> syanptic?
[04:46] <cdm10> edz: Or, if you want, just double-click a file and it'll prompt you to install the correct codec.
[04:46] <D-Flame> i know its possible to convert FAT/FAT32 to NTFS, but can it be done the other way around without losing data? Just wondering so the next time I convert an external to FAT so its both linux and windows compatible, i dont have to burn about 20 DVDs of data :P
[04:46] <Pelo> edz,  are you running  gnome or kde ?
[04:46] <Forager> pelo.  Understood.
[04:46] <edz> gnome
[04:46] <cdm10> edz: Sometimes it'll give you a few options, just check them all off.
[04:46] <sn0> D-Flame not without loosing data
[04:47] <D-Flame> good thing i have that dvd writer then eh
[04:47] <Cryoniq> Hi, I set up ntfs-3g for my internal ntfs storage disks. But when I try delete something it tells me files cannot be deleted because it is a read only disk. I thought I did what was needed for write support, so now I am clueless what to do.. anyone know this problem? :)
[04:47] <D-Flame> thanks, saves me going on a wild goose chase
[04:47] <sn0> partition tragic (magic) apparently does D-Flame
[04:47] <Pelo> edz,  menu > system> admin > synaptic package manager
[04:47] <sn0> but i cannot recommend it
[04:47] <D-Flame> tried it once, lost a system
[04:47] <edz> i got it
[04:47] <edz> thnx cdm10
[04:47] <D-Flame> never trusting it again
[04:47] <edz> and pelo
[04:47] <cdm10> edz: no problem
[04:47] <sn0> likewise :)
[04:48] <Pelo> Cryoniq, also instal ntfs-config and run it
[04:49] <Cryoniq> Pelo, I got it installed. I can run it again to be sure :)
[04:49] <WinXPNewb> Hi, how do I initiate the md5 checksum on Linux? I tried typing the command but it says there's no such file or directory. I'm using Linux Mint btw.
[04:49] <wastrel> md5sum file
[04:49] <cdm10> WinXPNewb: md5sum ./file
[04:50] <cdm10> wastrel beat me
[04:50] <Pelo> !md5 | WinXPNewb
[04:50] <john_> a374eb94196ec5d265eaef917e5c4a3a
[04:50] <ubotu> WinXPNewb: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[04:50] <Cryoniq> Pelo: it pops up a windows and tell me that the following new partitions were detected and can be configured.. /dev/sdb1 ... That is my second drive.. hmm.. maybe I should unmount the 200 gb and run it again.. brb
[04:51] <Greyscale> bed now, night night
[04:51] <Forager> goodnight, Geryscale.
[04:51] <WinXPNewb> md5sum: LinuxMint-3.0-XFCE.iso: No such file or directory
[04:51] <WinXPNewb> That's what I keep getting.
[04:51] <chibitk> ok guys...... the winehq people are no help
[04:51] <chibitk> at all
[04:51] <chibitk> and they are mean
[04:51] <nickrud> WinXPNewb: you have to run that in the same folder that the LinuxMint iso is
[04:51] <Flannel> WinXPNewb: We don't support Linux Mint here.  This is an Ubuntu channel
[04:52] <Cryoniq> Pelo: there we go.. got both drives up.. it mounted them and let me enable write support.. hmm.. so what did that program actually do to enable write? configured fstab?
[04:52] <Flannel> chibitk: Did you read the wiki page?
[04:52] <chibitk> ??
[04:52] <nickrud> WinXPNewb: you running the ubuntu live cd?
[04:52] <Pelo> Cryoniq, yes
[04:52] <chibitk> link please
[04:52] <Flannel> chibitk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[04:53] <Cryoniq> Pelo: =) Do I wont have to do that everytime I mount the drives now? :)
[04:53] <WinXPNewb> Ok, there's someone in the Mint channels now so I'll continue to ask there instead. Thanks for the help
[04:53] <Pelo> Cryoniq,  no , now that  fstab has been properly edited you'll be fine
[04:54] <simplechat> oklopol, its now installed, and is now loading
[04:54] <simplechat> its checking /dev/sda2
[04:55] <Pelo> simplechat, we don't need a play by play
[04:55] <simplechat> sorry
[04:55] <Pelo> no problem  it's just that this is a high traffic channel we don'T need to knowwhen tthing go well , just when they mess up
[04:55] <Cryoniq> Pelo, thanks :) I should take a month and just dig deep into modern Linux. Lost so much over the years. Used to do slakware a couple years back. :)
[04:56] <Pelo> Cryoniq,  then you are more leet then I , ubuntu is my first distro , and I've only been at it for a year
[04:56] <jebblue> Pelo: that is impressive then you help a lot of ppl here
[04:57] <Cryoniq> (now Im growing old with 2 kids and the late grinding in systems is a fairytale it almost feels like.. lol)
[04:57] <Jimmi_jones> anyone on here feel like helping me take on an Ubuntu/Cisco VPN client issue?
[04:57] <Kzer-Za> hi
[04:57] <wastrel> linux eh
[04:57] <wastrel> i've heard of it
[04:57] <jebblue> the next thing they say
[04:57] <pokesmot> what is linux?
[04:58] <pokesmot> windows rules!
[04:58] <Kzer-Za> def
[04:58] <pokesmot> heil gates!
[04:58] <Cryoniq> Pelo, maybe.. he he.. I remember the compilation sessions which could take 1 day.. think it was AMANDA backup system.. :P
[04:58] <Stephen> hey
[04:58] <Pelo> jebblue,  I just have a nack for giving out instructions and I also speak fluent noobish , it helps understand the problems of others
[04:58] <Stephen> i need help
[04:58] <simplechat> this is wierd, in restricted drivers, when i click enable for the "ATI accelerated graphics driver", it gives me the message box but no matter what i do it doesn't update the checkbox
[04:59] <Stephen> anyone know how to get the downloaded Ubuntu file into a ISO file?
[04:59] <Stephen> so i can install it?
[04:59] <demon_spork__> Stephen, what exactly did you download?
[04:59] <pokesmot> rawrite in windows!
[04:59] <Stephen> gah
[04:59] <Stephen> ok
[04:59] <Jimmi_jones> nickrud?
[04:59] <Pelo> later folks
[04:59] <Jimmi_jones> ?? nickrud
[04:59] <Cryoniq> Isnt the image file one download in iso?
[05:00] <nickrud> Jimmi_jones: hi
[05:00] <jebblue> mm yeah it is? i dont get the question
[05:00] <Jimmi_jones> hey, wasn't sure if you were really here, how you been?
[05:00] <PureEvilGeek> any one know if the avermedia ultra tv pci 550 tv tuner works on ubuntu?
[05:00] <pokesmot> Stephen?  writing a bootable cdrom are yeh
[05:00] <nickrud> Jimmi_jones: good, really good actually
[05:00] <Jimmi_jones> nickrud: good to hear, what part of the world you in?
[05:01] <nickrud> Jimmi_jones: los angeles. I'm in ubuntu-offtopic as well
[05:01] <Jimmi_jones> nickrud: about two hours east of Seattle here.  I'm from seattle (as long as there's a real question & answer on the line ;)
[05:02] <pokesmot> wow runs on ubuntu?
[05:02] <nickrud> !wow
[05:02] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[05:02] <Cryoniq> I refuse to answer that question out of mercy and humanity :)
[05:02] <jebblue> wow == games?
[05:03] <Jimmi_jones> nickrud: I'm going to be in Issaquah in the morning for a home brew competition, we take our son to Children's in Seattle a few times a year.
[05:03] <Kzer-Za> WOrld of Warcraft
[05:03] <pokesmot> im at mom inlaws house, cant boot the secret ubuntu part until she passes out
[05:04] <Kohr-Ah> bah
[05:04] <Jimmi_jones> nickrud: I was hoping to drop one more thing off the xp box that I do, vpning in to work, but I am running into difficulties with the client, any idea where to look for help?
[05:05] <wastrel> drop
[05:05] <Cryoniq> gah.. im too kind for refusal.. well it suppose to do I heard.. but I ran it under XP.. I used dualboot.. these days I refuse windows as much as possible. And I am quite pleased with using Ubuntu to 99.9%
[05:05] <kujo> is it possible to install ubuntu to an external hdd, not affecting the internal hdd at all?
[05:05] <nickrud> Jimmi_jones: I'm sure people that use cisco vpn here, ask a few times. Or look for a cisco channel
[05:05] <pokesmot> even though ubuntu would be infinitely more productive to her, no virus/spyware/adware/nagscreens to slow her down, she prefers windows just cuz theres no relearning what was so hard to learn in the first place being well over middle aged the first time she touched a mouse.
[05:05] <timsom> hello everyone
[05:05] <pavel> how do i get xorg-srver on ubuntu
[05:06] <crazy6> does anyone have psUbuntu running on ps3?
[05:06] <nickrud> pavel: aptitude install xserver-xorg (and your window manager of choice)
[05:06] <Jimmi_jones> Having trouble getting Cisco VPN client to recognize any but sample.pcf, anyone able to help?
[05:06] <timsom> i have just learn ubuntu so there are many thing i can't know well i want you to help me
[05:07] <Cryoniq> pokesmot: I was afraid my parents would be like that.. but they assimilated to Ubuntu very quick and are so happy with it.  Things just work for them now.
[05:07] <nickrud> timsom: you've found the right place, but asking specific questions about issues you're having will work best
[05:08] <pokesmot> Cyroiq, good for them
[05:08] <timsom> thank nickrud
[05:08] <jebblue> pokesmot: my wife is early 40s and i got her onto ubuntu - she likes it - i had to replace her Money - used GnuCash - for a more reluctant person try KDE i think it is slightly only slightly more friendly than Gnome
[05:08] <pokesmot> somebody could do a study to prove that people become so acclimated to adversity that they shy from simplicity.
[05:08] <timsom> nickrud :how long have you use ubunt
[05:09] <nickrud> timsom: since shortly after it's first release; debian for a few years before that
[05:09] <jebblue> pokesmot: u have a good point my wife is pretty open minded
[05:09] <untz> How can I change my computer's name on Ubuntu?
[05:10] <timsom> have you learn other linux like fc before
[05:10] <untz> I want to name it something else.
[05:10] <scguy318> untz: System -> Administration -> Network I think
[05:10] <untz> thanks scguy318
[05:11] <nickrud> timsom: yes, I used a couple others for the first year while I was learning about linux.
[05:11] <untz> that did it!
[05:11] <simplechat> hey, how would i set up my windows partition for rw?
[05:11] <untz> ;)
[05:11] <simplechat> atm i can read from it, but under properties, it it owned by root
[05:11] <Kstrings> pokesmot: Heh, your wives know more then mine.  I replaced her windows box with linux 4 years ago and she still hasent figured it out.
[05:11] <pavan> big problem upgrading to gutsy 7.10.. please help?
[05:11] <simplechat> can i chown it to me? (after sudoing?)
[05:11] <scguy318> !ntfs-3g | simplechat
[05:11] <ubotu> simplechat: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:11] <scguy318> simplechat: thats what you need
[05:11] <simplechat> yeah, i'm having a few problems using that
[05:11] <simplechat> mainly in that the link its pointing two own't open here
[05:11] <pokesmot> i set up a redhat system back in the late nineties, that was pimp.
[05:11] <scguy318> simplechat: lemme find you another then
[05:11] <timsom> nickrud:do you know how to install two linux in the same computer
[05:11] <pokesmot> when redhat was 'free'
[05:12] <simplechat> thanks :)
[05:12] <Jimmi_jones> Having trouble getting Cisco VPN client to recognize any but sample.pcf, anyone able to help?
[05:12] <scguy318> pokesmot: is not RH free now, or am I missing something?
[05:12] <scguy318> simplechat: that link works for me, whats the issue?
[05:12] <nickrud> timsom: sure. Just have a spare partition, and point the other linux at it. I had redhat, debian, mandrake, and several linux from scratches all booting
[05:12] <pokesmot> scguy, dont think so, fedora is, however
[05:12] <zcat[1] > RH is commercial and full of non-free packages
[05:12] <simplechat> the link that it links to
[05:12] <Cryoniq> pokesmot: yeah.. red hat was a period in ones life.. I really hope ubuntu wont go the same way in future like Red hat did. Red hat feel.. distant today..
[05:13] <arclight4507> Is there anyone here who wouldn't mind helping me,  a newbie,  get Ubuntu installed on an old Dell PowerEdge4300 server?
[05:13] <simplechat> the one with bug in its name, that won't show here
[05:13] <simplechat_ubunt> hey, this is my ubuntu box
[05:13] <scguy318> arclight4507: wut help u require
[05:14] <scguy318> zcat[1] : ah, that,
[05:14] <pokesmot> cyronik, it'll be alright, another free distro will just pick up where ubuntu leaves off, if that becomes the case
[05:14] <timsom> nickrud: I have try to install but fall the grub have replace the one that install first
[05:14] <zcat[1] > arclight4507: easy suggestion if you have odd hardware. Take the drive out, put it in a standard PC and install there. Usually when you put the drive back in the server it works like a champ..
[05:14] <arclight4507> I'm having some trouble
[05:14] <crazy6> why doesn't Xubnutu load on my system?
[05:14] <zcat[1] > done that for a few boxes that needed special drivers to access CD drives and stuff..
[05:14] <nonewmsgs> what do i have to do in order to do a reinstall
[05:14] <arclight4507> Problem is the server runs scsi drives
[05:14] <arclight4507> I don't have a scsi controler on my other pc
[05:14] <zcat[1] > ahh, OK.. so does it boot the install CD ok?
[05:15] <nickrud> timsom: A way to do that is to tell the new install not to install grub. Then, when it's done boot back up into ubuntu and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to boot the other install
[05:15] <Forager> how can I force a release and renew of DHCP in version 7.04?
[05:15] <nonewmsgs> like if i install ubunut over itself will it be OK with not screwing with /hom
[05:15] <arclight4507> It briings up the menu, but fails on the install
[05:15] <scguy318> Forager: sudo ifdown eth0, then sudo ifup eth0
[05:15] <simplechat> !ntfs-3g | simplechat_
[05:15] <ubotu> simplechat_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:15] <scguy318> Forager: someone may be able to suggest something even better
[05:15] <nonewmsgs> forger right click on the network thing and select the network you are on
[05:15] <zcat[1] > arclight4507: what error?
[05:15] <nonewmsgs> and it does it automatically
[05:15] <nickrud> nonewmsgs: if you don't have a separate home partition, back it up and reinstall, make a home partition, and restore it. From then on you'll be ok
[05:16] <arclight4507> just a sec I will go look
[05:16] <timsom> nickrud:oh my god ,i do it with installing the new grub,thank you nickrud,i try it later
[05:16] <robert_> is there any reason the heimdal package in feisty would remove dovecot-pop3d?
[05:16] <arclight4507> Cannot allocate rsource region 4 of device
[05:16] <scguy318> robert_: lemme check its depends
[05:17] <Cryoniq> Ah now I see what I did wrong.. I used /dev/hdd1 and /dev/hdc1 instead of /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sdb1  , wonder what the difference is.. hmm..
[05:17] <robert_> kay
[05:17] <pokesmot> screw it, i'm rebootin, she can deal with it...bbl taters
[05:17] <cdm10> How do I find what's different about 2 folders? Some files in a file copy operation failed, and I need to see which ones.
[05:17] <timsom> nickrud:may i ask you which country are you from,i am a chinese boy just fininsh my study from university
[05:17] <scguy318> Cryoniq: typically hxx is ATA and sxx is SATA, though these days the distinction is blurred
[05:17] <zcat[1] > arclight4507: ok, not the problem I was expecting. Probably the best option is google that error and see if there's any help.
[05:17] <alexbobp> In Ubuntu, grep -P gives me "grep: The -P option is not supported".  Can that be fixed?
[05:17] <cdm10> How do I find what's different about 2 folders? Some files in a file copy operation failed, and I need to see which ones. (If this is a repeat, sorry, I seem to have had some network issues)
[05:17] <nickrud> timsom: I live in sunny los angeles
[05:18] <Jimmi_jones> Having trouble getting Cisco VPN client to recognize any but sample.pcf, anyone able to help?
[05:18] <Forager> scguy318: response to ifdown is, "RTNETLINK answers No such Process"
[05:18] <crazy6> so xubuntu loads just to the point where it recognizes my SCSI devices / USB devices
[05:18] <crazy6> and that's it
[05:18] <crazy6> it just hangs after that
[05:18] <simplechat> how would i remount my ntfs volume?
[05:18] <zcat[1] > arclight4507: our issue was with a scsi driver
[05:18] <simplechat> ?
[05:18] <scguy318> Forager: whats the name of the interface of your networking device?
[05:18] <arclight4507> okay, thanks zcat
[05:18] <scguy318> Forager: just stick that in for eth0, i assumed that was your interface name
[05:18] <Cryoniq> scguy318: ah.. that makes sense.. the 2 disks are actually ATA disks, but I seen in several places and docs referers to sata etc around the topic.. confusing..
[05:18] <Forager> scguy 318 eth0
[05:19] <arclight4507> I think my issue is also a scsi driver
[05:19] <Forager> scguy318: What's a pid file?
[05:19] <scguy318> Forager: not sure about the file part but PID = Process ID
[05:19] <Jimmi_jones> Does anyone know of a good irc channel to get answers for Cisco VPN clients under Ubuntu?
[05:19] <tiger_> !fixres
[05:19] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:19] <timsom> nickrud:oh that is a good place ,what is your job now ,work with Linux?
[05:19] <scguy318> robert_: what package was it? i dont see a heimdal package
[05:20] <scguy318> robert_: just packages like heimdal-clients, etc.
[05:20] <robert_> lemme look
[05:20] <Cryoniq> I think sometimes programs use a PID file while is open or keep track of things..
[05:20] <simplechat> i can't mount the ntfs drive until i install winodws :(
[05:20] <nickrud> timsom: no, it's a windows shop but I use my linux laptop to do most of my work.
[05:20] <robert_> ohh
[05:20] <robert_> heimdal-servers
[05:20] <Cryoniq> usualy they are put under /temp
[05:21] <scguy318> robert_: a cursory look shows no conflicts to the dove package, have you tried installing that manually?
[05:21] <scguy318> Cryoniq: lock files?
[05:21] <alecwh> While trying to compile gedit 2.20.0, I put in the command "sudo make", and I get this: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop. What's wrong?
[05:21] <Shadow_X> is there a way to link a directory in ubuntu to a remote ftp server account? i.e. that everytime the folder is opened/modified, it syncs the ftp server?
[05:21] <nickrud> Cryoniq: debian's designated place is /var/run
[05:22] <scguy318> alecwh: did you ./configure first?
[05:22] <alecwh> scguy318, yes.
[05:22] <scguy318> alecwh: were there any errors?
[05:22] <Flannel> alecwh: you don't need to sudo make anyway.  just make install.
[05:22] <alecwh> yes scguy318: configure: error: Enchant library not found or too old. Use --disable-spell to build without spell plugin.
[05:22] <robert_> Conflicts: telnetd, ... pop3-server
[05:23] <Cryoniq> nickrud: ah =) I saw and deleted such pid files under different locations during slackware early years. Ubuntu is quite new to me since 6.04 or so :)
[05:23] <timsom> nickrud:what time do you in this place ,if i have any problem about linux,i could ask you to deal with it ,or do you have a ICQ
[05:23] <Kstrings> alecwh:  You building this on an ubuntu system?
[05:23] <alecwh> Kstrings: Yes, Fiesty.
[05:23] <nickrud> timsom: I'm in and out here, but there's people who know much more than I do that hang out here all the time.
[05:23] <scguy318> alecwh: sudo apt-get install libenchant-dev to rectify that
[05:23] <Jewelthief> Hi all, my wireless isn't working after an ubuntu upgrade.  At the moment I'm trying to add some firmware into my lib\firmware file, but I'm getting an error stating that I don't have authorization to do this.  In my user accounts area though, it says that I have administrator access.
[05:23] <scguy318> alecwh: if ./configure fails, no makefiles are made, but I think someone said that you could just simply make install?
[05:24] <scguy318> Jewelthief: sudo
[05:24] <Kstrings> alecwh:  Try using the pbuild system
[05:24] <Jewelthief> scguy318: I've tried a sudo command, it gives me a different error.
[05:24] <nickrud> Cryoniq: policy is a great thing. Once you see how an app uses the file system, or install methods, etc you can pretty much know what any other similar app will do. No seat of the pants package building here ;)
[05:24] <alecwh> scguy318: I did that, it downloaded and installed, but I get the same error for the Enchant library.
[05:24] <alecwh> Kstrings: How?
[05:24] <argh2d2> wuzzup pokesmot
[05:24] <alecwh> scguy318: After typing ./configure
[05:24] <Cryoniq> nickrud:  :)
[05:24] <wastrel> pokemon
[05:25] <timsom> nickrud:can you make me to know the people who hang out here all the time.there are many problem that i can't deal with it
[05:25] <pokesmot> nah mugch playa
[05:25] <scguy318> alecwh: mm, have you taken up the suggestion of another user to simply make install?
[05:25] <alecwh> Yes, it doesn't find the make file.
[05:25] <argh2d2> word
[05:25] <scguy318> alecwh: mm
[05:25] <nickrud> timsom: it's not really good ethics to point at people, they answer when they can. <looks at scguy318 >
[05:25] <Forager> this is odd... In version 7.04 (Fisty, right?) when I rclick the network icon in the upper panel and select connection information all the info except the device, Speed, driver and hardware address are all zeros.
[05:26] <scguy318> nickrud: ?
[05:26] <spazz> Hello?
[05:26] <Kstrings> alecwh:  Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto  It will build a debian source package (apt-get source gedit) in a chroot enviroment and it will auto get all dependencies and whatnet.  Its a one step build.
[05:26] <nickrud> scguy318: I'm not pointing at you as a quality answer guy :)
[05:26] <scguy318> nickrud: i need to work on that :)
[05:26] <alecwh> Kstrings: Il
[05:26] <spazz> Hey, could anyone in here help me with a resolution issue?
[05:27] <alecwh> Kstrings: I'll try*, thanks!
[05:27] <scguy318> alecwh: mm, supply the --disable-spell parameter to ./configure, i dont believe you need spell checking, really
[05:27] <timsom> nickrud:Thank you nickrud ,if i have any problem i will say it in this place ,if you can deal with you ,help me.
[05:27] <whiskeytango> How do i create the C:\\windows\\system32\\setup.exe module ?
[05:27] <PhenGy> how come on my windows workstatoin, i cannot connect to my  ubuntu box through WINSCP,  but i can telnet  from command promtp
[05:27] <arclight4507> The exact feedback from the Ubuntu Linux installation CD is this: [17179572.980000]  PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 4 of device 0000:00:07.1
[05:27] <alecwh> scguy318: I actually just barely tried that, I didn't get an error, but "make" still didn't work.
[05:27] <arclight4507> and
[05:27] <alecwh> Same error.
[05:27] <PhenGy> how come on my windows workstatoin, i cannot connect to my  ubuntu box through WINSCP,  but i can telnet  from command promtp,  What do I have to install on Ubuntu?
[05:27] <nickrud> timsom: np, just ping if I'm on line, it usually means I'm working and probably can swing some time
[05:27] <scguy318> whiskeytango: you dont, you get the nice file not found error?
[05:27] <alecwh> Kstrings: I'm installing pbuilder now.
[05:27] <scguy318> whiskeytango: you have to cd to where the EXE is
[05:28] <Forager> anyone have a suggestion on where I should begin?
[05:28] <Cryoniq> But.. to anwer the question using famous copy and paste from a google out of my current lazyness:  A Pid-File is a file containing the process identification number (pid) that is stored in a well-defined location of the filesystem thus allowing other programs to find out the pid of a running script.
[05:28] <arclight4507> [17179625.812000]  i2o: iop0: could not activate controller
[05:28] <j2daosh> anyone in here use the "mail" application?
[05:28] <alecwh> Kstrings: How do I do this? I have it installed...
[05:28] <arclight4507> Any ideas?
[05:28] <timsom> nickrud:OK,thank you nickrud.i am out now to install two linux,see you
[05:28] <PhenGy> how come on my windows workstatoin, i cannot connect to my  ubuntu box through WINSCP,  but i can telnet  from command promtp,  What do I have to install on Ubuntu?
[05:29] <spazz> what should i do if my computer's screen resolution won't go to the right maximum (I can only get it to 1280 by 800, and it worked before, both on live cd and on initial boot)
[05:29] <alecwh> spazz, nvidia card?
[05:29] <spazz> no, ATI
[05:29] <j2daosh> PhenGy: openssh server
[05:29] <alecwh> spazz: Sorry, can't help you then. :(
[05:29] <spazz> mobility radeon 9200 wtih 64MB
[05:29] <j2daosh> or some other ssh server
[05:30] <spazz> ah, oh well
[05:30] <PhenGy> thank you Boss
[05:30] <spazz> thanks anyways!
[05:30] <PhenGy> thank you Boss
[05:30] <scguy318> spazz: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:30] <spazz> ok, i'll give it a shot
[05:30] <scguy318> spazz: or gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and edit the relevant horiz/vert res sections
[05:30] <jambox> g
[05:30] <furenku> hey, i am not being able to connect my laptop to the internet via ethernet, this was working fine some days ago, any ideas on how to find the problem?
[05:30] <scguy318> spazz: make sure to backup your xorg.conf, so you can restore should X server fail to restart
[05:31] <Forager> why do I have an eth0 and an eth0:avah?
[05:31] <scguy318> Forager: eth0:avah is zeroconf interface for networks that have such machines connected
[05:31] <spazz> What driver should i try?
[05:31] <Cryoniq> Example: I make a script or a program that does something. Like calculate the value of Pi. That calculation is a process, so I have the program make a Pid file with the Process ID number of that process. While the script does other things, I can have other parts check if a process for calculating Pi already is in motion so it doesn't do that a second time, or another process should wait for it, or other reasons (one could use varia
[05:31] <Cryoniq> bles for that as well).
[05:31] <scguy318> spazz: the default that's selected
[05:31] <Cryoniq> oops.. became quite long.. my bad.
[05:31] <spazz> ok, i'll go for it
[05:32] <furenku> how can i view the ethernet settings?
[05:32] <scguy318> spazz: make sure to backup your xorg.conf should restarting the X server fail
[05:32] <scguy318> furenku: System -> Administration -> Network
[05:32] <scguy318> furenku: for interface statistics, ifconfig
[05:32] <j2daosh> how can i automate sending an email using the "mail" application?
[05:32] <schnoonix> hello i am about to install ubuntu after having windows XP. What i did with windows xp was created a partioned drive and formatted it, but left it for linux. Am i not able to do that ?
[05:32] <Jewelthief> it seems like no matter how I'm trying to get the firmware into my lib\firmware file, i get an error.  I'm not even sure that doing this will fix the lack of wlan0 in my system.
[05:33] <scguy318> Jewelthief: what's the upgrade that you performed?
[05:33] <scguy318> Jewelthief: and what's the error?
[05:33] <nickrud> schnoonix: that was a perfectly fine thing to do, in fact it'll make it easy.
[05:33] <Jewelthief> scguy318: thats a great question, i have no idea...  I havent used ubuntu in a while.  I just opened update manager when i got online again.
[05:34] <schnoonix> ok how do i do it then, just chose manual in the partition option of the install ?
[05:34] <Jewelthief> scguy318: extraction not performed you do not have the right permissions to access the archives in the folder...
[05:34] <scguy318> schnoonix: yes
[05:34] <nickrud> schnoonix: yes
[05:34] <scguy318> Jewelthief: what app you using? you have to start it via gksudo/sudo
[05:35] <schnoonix> by the look of it, it looks like it didnt pick up my SATA drive :\
[05:35] <Jimmi_jones> anyone offer any help with vpnc?
[05:35] <schnoonix> its only showing my 160gb+40gb IDE drives, when my SATA drive is the one with the main space
[05:35] <Jewelthief> scguy318: I've been following a tutorial that advised using "sudo"
[05:35] <wastrel> sudo
[05:35] <Kstrings> Is there a Ubuntu 7.10 Beta specific channel?
[05:36] <nickrud> schnoonix: the alternate install cd? The live cd is sometimes flaky about stuff
[05:36] <nickrud> Kstrings: #ubuntu+1
[05:36] <AndrewB> Kstrings: #ubuntu+1
[05:36] <ramza3> ok, this is crazy; over the last week or so my connection on my fiesty machine has been dropping and I cant use it so I have to reboot; I have another ubuntu machine on the same network and has has been running strong for 45 days;  anybody seen this?
[05:36] <schnoonix> actually i think i have an idea how i need to do it. Ill attempt it later. When i installed windows i actually needed the IDE drives disconnected or it wasnt reading the SATA as primary, then when installed i needed to connect it back. It may be the same for ubuntu
[05:36] <Jewelthief> scguy318: I've been trying to use this page:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623
[05:37] <pavel> ramza3, u mean like internet?
[05:38] <Jimmi_jones> anyone offer any help with vpnc?
[05:38] <scguy318> Jewelthief: you are using the newer one, right? ;)
[05:38] <Jewelthief> Jimmi_jones: sorry J, I dont have any experience with that.
[05:38] <ramza3> pavel: it is strange; if I disconnect my router it will say your connection is lost. With this issue, the network "hangs" and I cant get to the other machines or internet but it doesnt say "network lost"
[05:39] <pavel> jimmi_jones is that a vm?
[05:39] <Jewelthief> scguy318: I'm sorry, the newer one of what?
[05:39] <PhenGy> cron-egg  eggdrop.conf  =  no such command as cron    in Ubuntu  terminal window???  how to fix that
[05:39] <scguy318> Jewelthief: the guide, yours is for Hoary
[05:39] <Jimmi_jones> pavel: vpn client I am trying to dump the xp box for vpning into the Cisco appliance at work
[05:39] <pavel> ramz3, sometimes there maybe a problem wit ips. what kind of router do u have?
[05:39] <scguy318> ramza3: not really strange, just proper behavior I think
[05:40] <pavel> jimmi_jones well i dont have experience with that, but might help u anyway, whats wrong?
[05:40] <scguy318> ramza3: Ethernet doesn't have any mechanism to, I think, signal link failure I believe
[05:40] <furenku> there seems to be absolutely no ethernet activity going on on my laptop, ive run out of ideas on how to fix this!!
[05:40] <ramza3> pavel, cheap linksys.  I dont think itis the router because it works on my other machines
[05:40] <Jewelthief> scguy318: ah, then I probably need something different.  I have (or had) edgy.  now i dont know what i've got... ;)
[05:40] <PhenGy> cron-egg  eggdrop.conf  =  no such command as cron    in Ubuntu  terminal window???  how to fix that
[05:40] <scguy318> Jewelthief: that guide linked to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263136
[05:40] <ramza3> scguy318, it only seems to go fowl with this particular fiesty machine though
[05:40] <scguy318> Jewelthief: WPA supplicant blah
[05:40] <pavel> ramz3 does ubuntu set you up for internet automatically?
[05:41] <scguy318> Jewelthief: is there anything in logs when your card attempts to associate?
[05:41] <crazy6> uhoh I think I just uninstalled my kernel headers
[05:41] <scguy318> crazy6: np, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[05:41] <Jewelthief> scguy318: yeah, right now tho, i'd deal with Any wireless, even Wep
[05:41] <ramza3> pavel, yea like right now it is working
[05:41] <Jimmi_jones> pavel: well, I installed the Cisco client under ubuntu but can't get it to run anything other then the sample pcf file. I have a pcf provided by my employer for the windows cisco vpn client, I feel like I should be able to make this work somehow.
[05:41] <crazy6> scguy318: this might be a super-special version, as it is on PS3
[05:41] <pavel> ramza3 and at random, the internet shuts down?
[05:42] <Jewelthief> scguy318: i dont think my card's trying to associate because when i do an iwconfig, it just says no wireless extensions.
[05:42] <ramza3> pavel: internet and other connections (eg, if I remote to my other machines, shouldnt that still work?)
[05:42] <kevinO> how much space is needed to install Ubuntu?
[05:42] <scguy318> crazy6: the `uname -r` part would make it specific :P
[05:42] <scguy318> kevinO: minimum 2.5 GB i think
[05:42] <kevinO> thanks
[05:42] <Jimmi_jones> pavel: the cisco client keeps giving me "The profile specified could not be read"
[05:42] <t3318> hello
[05:42] <pavel> jimmi_jones, is it a process?
[05:43] <scguy318> Jewelthief: mm, what card are you?
[05:43] <Jewelthief> scguy318: ipw 2200
[05:43] <crazy6> scguy318: is there some utility to manage all the kernels I have installed? or just do it via synaptic? (it'll automatially edit /etc/kboot.conf)
[05:43] <scguy318> Jewelthief: tried sudo modprobe ipw2200? just trying to cover the obvious
[05:43] <scguy318> crazy6: the latter
[05:43] <Jewelthief> scguy318: intel pro wireless 2200, that is. on a compaq presario laptop.  have lost my lil blu led too. sniff.
[05:43] <pavel> ramza3: well a. bad wire (of course unless ur wireless) b. bad router(which i doubt) or c ur box's internet settings are funky. what version ubuntu u running?
[05:44] <skx> I'm trying to play a game on epsxe, but the image is in thee files (.img .sub and .cdd).  Should I mount this directly, or convert it to ISO? And how would I go about doing it?
[05:44] <Jimmi_jones> pavel: I believe the Cisco client runs as a dameon
[05:44] <holotone> I'm trying to install freenx via this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX - Problem is, after adding the freenx repos then an apt-get update, "apt-get install freenx" returns that the package cannot be found. I'm seeing the correct repo be "hit" on update, so I assume it's actually checking it - Any tips to troubleshoot / resolve this problem?
[05:44] <Jewelthief> scguy318: i'll try that, i'm so new to this that obvious stuff is also beyond me...
[05:44] <wastrel> ipw2200
[05:44] <ramza3> pavel: fiesty; is there a command to get the exact version
[05:44] <pavel> jimmi_jones bc profile could be relating to user on the box
[05:44] <scguy318> skx: im not sure if AcetoneISO2 mounts it, so your best bet is to convert to ISO via, mm, CloneCD or DAEMON Tools (I know Windows only)
[05:44] <Shadow_X> is there a way to link a directory in ubuntu to a remote ftp server account? i.e. that everytime the folder is opened/modified, it syncs the ftp server?
[05:45] <Jewelthief> scguy318: i got this message: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623
[05:45] <pavel> ramza3: generally speaking, that is ur exact version. hm i honestly dont know why this would happen. did u search the forums?
[05:45] <Forager> How can I make DHCPDISCOVER query a different subnet mask?
[05:45] <skx> scguy318: is there any way to do it without windows?  I don't have a box with windows installed.
[05:45] <lah> can someone tell me how to get my IDE detecting drives with a asrock SATA2
[05:45] <scguy318> Jewelthief: check your clipboard :P
[05:45] <Danny> anyone here know how to fix alsa?  im having problems with quiet sound on my laptop - its an intel HDA chip
[05:45] <scguy318> Forager: i dont believe u can, isn't it a DHCP thing to broadcast on <IP_ADDRESS>?
[05:46] <ramza3> pavel, it could be the physical cable?
[05:46] <whiskeytango> ...
[05:46] <Jewelthief> scguy318: ah, how?
[05:46] <Jimmi_jones> pavel: in terminal typing "vpnclient connect WRV1" gives me the error message, but "vpnclient connect sample" works
[05:46] <scguy318> Jewelthief: well, you copied the old link post
[05:46] <scguy318> Jewelthief: instead of the error message you wanted to show me :)
[05:46] <whiskeytango> If i have a 6200 nvidia SE chipset that should be supported right?  even if my PCIE card isnt?
[05:46] <pavel> ramza3, well unlikely but possible, is the cable ever touched?
[05:46] <scguy318> whiskeytango: ?
[05:46] <crazy6> scguy318: ack, it's a custom kernel, I guess I better get this figured out before I reboot
[05:47] <whiskeytango> So if i switched my monitor to that i should be able to upgrade my drivers, yah?
[05:47] <Jimmi_jones> pavel: I copied WRV1 over from the windows box, it is the pcf that the Cisco client over there uses
[05:47] <Jewelthief> scguy318: i got an error that said bad line.
[05:47] <ramza3> pavel, not touched, except when I just recently tried to make sure it was installed correctly
[05:47] <Jewelthief> i typed in : sudo modprobe ipw2200
[05:47] <scguy318> Jewelthief: can you show the exact error?
[05:47] <whiskeytango> if i dont come back its because this didnt work and i threw my monitor out the window.
[05:47] <pavel> jimmi_jones well should wrv1 be registered with the vpn?
[05:47] <Jewelthief> i'll try..
[05:48] <XsteelWolf> does linux adds up partition into 1 ,unlike windows? let's say 250gb x2 , df-H 500gb total?
[05:48] <Jewelthief> scguy318: WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/ipw2200 line 2: ignoring bad line starting with 'Reply'
[05:48] <pavel> jimmi_jones, well what could happen is that like the cable is cut somewhere and it has a connection at angles
[05:48] <scguy318> Jewelthief: oh, very interesting!
[05:48] <pavel> jimmi_jones, wrong person
[05:48] <scguy318> Jewelthief: can you please pastebin the contents of cat /etc/modprobe.d/ipw2200
[05:48] <Jewelthief> scguy318: yep
[05:48] <scguy318> !pastebin | Jewelthief
[05:48] <ubotu> Jewelthief: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:48] <n3tfury> hi everyone :)
[05:48] <Jewelthief> yes...
[05:48] <Jimmi_jones> pavel: np, could you elaborate a little on your question about registered with vpn?
[05:48] <pavel> ramza3: well the cable could be cut and only get a connection at angles, but i think you need to tinker wit your settings
[05:48] <ramza3> pavel: but why would rebooting fix it.  Another strnage thing, that is why I think it is a software issue
[05:49] <Forager> sorry scguy318...  DCHPDISCOVERY is looking to <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:49] <t3318> exit
[05:49] <t3318> :|
[05:49] <scguy318> Forager: yeah, I believe thats DHCP implementation thing, though I could totally be off-base
[05:50] <Forager> scguy318: My router's subnet is <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:50] <pavel> jimmi_jones: well the way i understand this, based off of how the internet works, if your trying to connect to anything, ur box has to know where to go, and maybe the vpn doesnt understand this 'WRV1'
[05:50] <scguy318> Forager: which is fine
[05:50] <scguy318> Forager: its just a broadcast
[05:50] <t3318> how can i change nick in irssi :(
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> t3318: /nick new_nick
[05:50] <pavel> ramza3: when you installed your router, did u configure it in anyway
[05:50] <t3318> woa
[05:50] <Forager> but my fisty isn't picking up it's dhcp assigned address.
[05:50] <dongthao> thanks tony much :D
[05:51] <Jewelthief> scguy318: so do i just copy the url up at the top of the pastebin page so you can see what's there?
[05:51] <scguy318> Jewelthief: yes please
[05:51] <XsteelWolf> does linux adds up partition into 1 ,unlike windows? let's say 250gb x2 , df-H 500gb total?
[05:51] <ramza3> pavel: I think you are going down the wrong direction.  I have had the router and machine for years and doing various upgrades; only recently I have had this issue, unless the router is just old
[05:51] <Jewelthief> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:51] <Jewelthief> see if that works.
[05:51] <Jimmi_jones> pavel: oh, o.k. well running the command "vpnclient connect WRV1" is telling the client to run using the configuration in the pcf file WRV1, that file has the ip address of the listening Cisco appliance.
[05:51] <bulmer> Forager: what are you trying to do?
[05:51] <Yoric1> XsteelWolf: What do you mean?
[05:51] <whiskeytango> Can someone explain to me why my chipset no longer works?
[05:51] <XsteelWolf> as in hdd mapping
[05:51] <scguy318> Jewelthief: oh, no, the direct link to your specific paste
[05:51] <Forager> bulmer: I'm trying to access the internet.
[05:51] <Jewelthief> whiskeytango: did you just do an upgrade?
[05:52] <bulmer> Forager: you are now are you not?
[05:52] <ramza3> pavel, but guess what; if I leave my irc on; it will probably stay active because of the ongoing network activity
[05:52] <Forager> Bulmer: Not.  I'm in IRC using my winxp laptop.
[05:52] <mtx1> i am setting up an ftp and for some when i type in this sudo useradd userftp -p your_password -d /home/FTP-shared -s /bin/false   it adds but when i set it to change the password of the user it says that it isnt a user its a group? how do i add a user?
[05:52] <whiskeytango> No, my 8500 gt isnt supported and the workaround doesnt work.  So i trade the monitor off to my chipset monitor port, but it doesnt even give me a screen.
[05:52] <Jewelthief> scguy318: lol, here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38982/
[05:52] <whiskeytango> tells me to check the cable.
[05:52] <scguy318> Jewelthief: ty :)
[05:52] <Jewelthief> *shakes head*
[05:52] <pavel> jimmi_jones it might night know to look there or be alllowed to read it, first of try that command with 'sudo' in front of that command, also check if 'man vpnclient' gives you anything
[05:52] <mtx1> have tried useradd and adduser and still get same error when trying to change password
[05:52] <bulmer> Forager okay, now can you elaborate on your setup? tell me wha tyou have ? whats connected to what..
[05:53] <Yoric1> XsteelWolf: So you mean what?...
[05:53] <Wooderson> how do i connect to an irc server?
[05:53] <whiskeytango> Youre on an IRC server.
[05:53] <skx> Does anyone know how to convert to .iso from (.ccd, .img, .sub) format under linux)
[05:53] <XsteelWolf> mapping
[05:53] <Wooderson> a different one
[05:53] <Wooderson> i wanna connect to swift irc
[05:53] <XsteelWolf> 2 x 250gb becomes 1 500gb hdd partition
[05:53] <scguy318> Jewelthief: oh, I think I said to pastebin the contents of the command cat /etc/modprobe.d/ipw2200
[05:53] <scguy318> Jewelthief: sorry for confusion
[05:53] <bulmer> Jimmi_jones: you can strace your vpnclient and see which files and libraries it uses
[05:53] <whiskeytango> type /connect then the address
[05:54] <pavel> ramza3: have u checked your network settings?
[05:54] <Wooderson> Looking up zeus.au.oc.SwiftIRC.net  ..
[05:54] <Wooderson>  Unknown host. Maybe you misspelled i
[05:54] <crazy6> scguy318: hrm, this package seems to want libc6 2.6 ... what to do?
[05:54] <Forager> bulmer:  Ubunto Box has a Linksys Instant gigabit card, (Works great in WinXP) wired to a Linksys WRTP54G voice router.
[05:54] <Wooderson> what am i doing wrong
[05:54] <scguy318> crazy6: which package?
[05:54] <furenku_> after installing the nvidia drivers, i can no longer load the realtime kernel, how can i fix this?
[05:54] <skx> Wooderson: double check the name of the server you're trying to connec to
[05:54] <crazy6> scguy318: this custom kernel (patched with ps3 wifi driver)
[05:54] <bulmer> Forager: okay, your XP is dual booting with linux?
[05:55] <ramza3> pavel, only thing really selected is dhcp and wired.  is there something else
[05:55] <whiskeytango> Maybe the server address is incorrect.
[05:55] <bulmer> Forager: or that ubuntu is another separate machine?
[05:55] <PhenGy> how to use cron  for eggdrop?   in terminal        crontab eggdrop.conf ??
[05:55] <Wooderson>  Connection failed. Error: Connection refused
[05:55] <Yoric1> XsteelWolf: Do you mean RAID?
[05:55] <scguy318> crazy6: dunno :( wish I knew more
[05:55] <scguy318> crazy6: though
[05:55] <crazy6> k Ill just try it
[05:55] <Wooderson> why is it refusing my connection? i dont get it
[05:55] <Wooderson> o i know
[05:55] <scguy318> crazy6: if you can install your fine libc6 packages and they do exist
[05:55] <Forager> Bulmer:  Yeah.  XP is the original OS, Installed Unbutu, dual boot on Grub.
[05:56] <EnkriptX> hey
[05:56] <pavel> ramza3: click on properties and make sure its set to automatic there
[05:56] <Wooderson> how do i change the port?
[05:56] <whiskeytango> Because you have the address wrong or you are banned?
[05:56] <scguy318> crazy6: then go for it, if its not a version dependency error
[05:56] <Cavaleiro_da_tri> join #brasil
[05:56] <EnkriptX> anyone think they can help me?
[05:56] <Jewelthief> scguy318: ok, i pasted the results of that: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38983/
[05:56] <Wooderson> nah im not banned there
[05:56] <XsteelWolf> no
[05:56] <Wooderson> how do i change the port?
[05:56] <bulmer> Forager: is the router also acting as dHCP server?
[05:56] <scguy318> Jewelthief: okay, this is easy
[05:56] <Wooderson> its trying to connect to 9999 but the port is 6667
[05:56] <scguy318> Jewelthief: in Terminal, do gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/ipw2200
[05:56] <skx> Wooderson: type /server irc.server.name 6667
[05:56] <EnkriptX> I have a problem. I just burned an ISO copy of Ubuntu. And when i Boot my computer it wont let me Boot from cd. Any ideas?
[05:56] <Wooderson> ok thx
[05:57] <ramza3> pavel, yep
[05:57] <scguy318> Jewelthief: then just remove that Reply With Quote line
[05:57] <Forager> Bulmer: Yes.  Router is DHCP server.  It register Ubuntu box and assigned an IP address.  THe Ubuntu will not take it.
[05:57] <crazy6> scguy318: should I dist-upgrade to gutsy ?
[05:57] <scguy318> Jewelthief: i have no clue how that line ended up in your modprobe file :S
[05:57] <bulmer> EnkriptX: enable it on your bios
[05:57] <scguy318> crazy6: no
[05:57] <scguy318> crazy6: nevar
[05:57] <pavel> ramza3: u said another box runs fine, is it also a linux?
[05:57] <Jewelthief> scguy318: ok, i've done that
[05:57] <scguy318> crazy6: there are release notes for upgrading to Gutsy that tell you how I think
[05:57] <scguy318> Jewelthief: then just do sudo modprobe ipw2200
[05:57] <AnAnt> Hello, how can I configure the joystick in Ubuntu ?
[05:57] <EnkriptX> bulmer, It is. I even went to boot menu and selected it. But it booted to my regular linux =\
[05:57] <the_wizzizard> hello
[05:57] <scguy318> Jewelthief: and check to see if your wireless card works
[05:57] <bulmer> Forager: how did you test this? are you using dhclient?
[05:58] <ramza3> pavel: it is the prev version of ubuntu, I forgot the name
[05:58] <the_wizzizard> what do i do about my mouse freezing up on me?
[05:58] <scguy318> crazy6: unfortunately, i dunno much :(
[05:58] <PhenGy> how to use cron  for eggdrop?   in terminal        crontab eggdrop.conf ??
[05:58] <Jewelthief> scguy318: what is the best way to check, just iwconfig?
[05:58] <bulmer> EnkriptX: it meant it does not recognize that there is a bootable cdrom on the drive
[05:58] <scguy318> Jewelthief: yes, w/e you use for wireless
[05:58] <bulmer> PhenGy: man crontab
[05:58] <pavel> ramza3: think tis edgy, not the point. so the internet blows out after a while without being used?
[05:59] <CyberMad> how to send file to other employee that use ubuntu & windows? i try pidgin - bonjour but it doesn't support send file :( Note: i don't want use chat via internet connection
[05:59] <Forager> bulmer: I have the router pages up on the laptop, so I have the Client table.  In ubuntu I'm in Terminal using ifconfig and Firefox.
[05:59] <EnkriptX> bulmer, but why wouldnt it? it recognized my mepis disk =\ I can reboot and check my bios. But ill probably be back
[05:59] <ramza3> pavel: yep.  strange, normally after a long while, eg a couple of hours
[05:59] <pavel> jimmi_jones have you read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[05:59] <scguy318> CyberMad: what protocol are you using?
[05:59] <bulmer> Forager: what command you typed in ubuntu to recognize these?
[05:59] <the_wizzizard> how i do fix it so my mouse doesnt freeze up on my computer?
[05:59] <scguy318> CyberMad: and are the two machines hooked up to same network?
[05:59] <crazy6> how do I find what current resolution x is running at?
[06:00] <Jewelthief> scguy318: ok, progress! it's showing up now.  but now i have to configure some stuff.  my lynksis router is set to wpa. and i dont think my wpa supplicant is working anymore.
[06:00] <RoC_MasterMind> an upgrade from 6.06 to 7.04 says I will lose libvolumeid0, python-apport-utils, and humna-gtk-theme....should I be concerned?
[06:00] <pavel> ramza3, well sometimes, what happens is that hardware goes to sleep if not being used. Are u plugging into a pci card or something directly connected to the mother board
[06:00] <bulmer> EnkriptX: maybe it didnt burn properly? you can always mount an iso and see if its okay..bootable, only way I know is to boot of it offcourse
[06:00] <CyberMad> scguy318 that's what i'm asked.. hehe i confuse use what method.. i tried bonjour but it doesn't support send file
[06:00] <Sir_Sid>  hmm do any of you guys know how to compile a source if you hava a configure.ac
[06:00] <RoC_MasterMind> *6.10 to 7.04
[06:00] <CyberMad> scguy318 all machines are in same network
[06:00] <Forager> bulmer: I'm using ifconfig to check addresses and subnet, scguy318 suggested I use sudo ifup and ifdown to release/renew Ip addresses.
[06:00] <ramza3> pavel: I think onboard
[06:00] <CyberMad> scguy318 there are about 50 PCs
[06:01] <skx> Nobody knows how to convert from .img to .iso files?
[06:01] <ramza3> pavel: asus 64 bit system
[06:01] <whiskeytango> how do i move executable to my wine c:  ?
[06:01] <riddlebox> weird, I had to reboot after I installed libdvdcss2 in order to view dvds
[06:01] <pavel> ramza3: well then i really dunno how to help you, did ya checked the forusm?
[06:01] <Jimmi_jones> pavel: no, will do. FYI modding the "sample.pcf" allows it to run and connect to the Cisco appliance, but I now have a bad group password. Will have to get a new one from IT. Thanks for your time.
[06:01] <whiskeytango> when i try to install stuff it tells me that module cannot be found.
[06:01] <skx> whiskeytango: your wine c:
[06:01] <bulmer> Forager: and what happens when you did do a ifdown and ifup? did you verify you have an ip address assigned? did you check /var/log/messages for telltale signs?
[06:01] <scguy318> skx: install AcetoneISO2 from third-party debs, then mount it
[06:01] <skx> thank you, scguy318
[06:02] <scguy318> skx: then use favorite rip app to obtain image
[06:02] <Sir_Sid>  hmm do any of you guys know how to compile a source if you hava a configure.ac
[06:02] <pavel> jimmi_jones np
[06:02] <scguy318> !make | Sir_Sid
[06:02] <ubotu> Sir_Sid: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:02] <PhenGy> Errors in Crontab File,  cant install
[06:02] <scguy318> whiskeytango: wheres the EXE that you wish to run located?
[06:02] <scguy318> whiskeytango: and what is the EXE anyway?
[06:02] <skx> whiskeytango: your wine c: is located at /home/whiskeytango/.wine/drive_c/
[06:02] <scguy318> CyberMad: mmm
[06:02] <scguy318> CyberMad: the lazy way out would be...e-mail :P
[06:02] <bulmer> Sir_Sid: umm look into using autoconf..there is a free book on using these gnu tools
[06:03] <scguy318> CyberMad: i guess a simple SMB share?
[06:03] <Wooderson> how do i set the root password?
[06:03] <Sir_Sid> bulmer: where can I get that book?
[06:03] <CyberMad> scguy318 well, i just want to deploy: chat, send file feature for all employee
[06:03] <Forager> Bulmer: I don't know about /var/log/messages.  IFCONFIG shows an inet6 address (Don't know how to read) but eth0:avah is on 169.254 network.
[06:03] <scguy318> CyberMad: ah, ok
[06:03] <bulmer> Sir_Sid: google for a book called autoconf make
[06:03] <simplechat_ubunt> hey, i'm wondering if i can get ubuntu to share its packages?
[06:03] <gogeta> lol
[06:03] <simplechat_ubunt> ie. one that is fully updated updating one that isn't?
[06:04] <scguy318> CyberMad: i would imagine that setting up an XMPP server could do it
[06:04] <simplechat> ?
[06:04] <gogeta> to what?
[06:04] <scguy318> CyberMad: i know that protocol supports file transfer
[06:04] <bulmer> Forager: if it has 169.254.x.x it didnt get to talk to the dhcp server
[06:04] <Jewelthief> scguy318: thanks a ton!
[06:04] <Sir_Sid> thanks bulmer
[06:04] <scguy318> Jewelthief: np
[06:04] <scguy318> Jewelthief: all good?
[06:04] <bulmer> Sir_Sid i may have the book, hang on..
[06:05] <Wooderson> how do i set my root password?
[06:05] <RoC_MasterMind> an upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 says I will lose libvolumeid0, python-apport-utils, and human-gtk-theme....should I be concerned?
[06:05] <scguy318> Wooderson: sudo passwd, though why would you want to do this?
[06:05] <simplechat> can i garb the package cache from another computer?
[06:05] <scguy318> !root | Wooderson
[06:05] <Sir_Sid> bulmer: I think i found it
[06:05] <ubotu> Wooderson: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:05] <Jewelthief> i wont know until i reboot, some of my wireless info's on my xp side. gotta reboot
[06:05] <Wooderson> i just got ubuntu today
[06:05] <Wooderson> havent set anything
[06:05] <Wooderson> lol
[06:05] <gogeta> lol wooderson
[06:05] <CyberMad> scguy318 yes, i already deploy chat server based on XMPP, but the problem is i don't add user nickname one by one on each PCs
[06:05] <gogeta> can guess that root pass al day
[06:05] <Sir_Sid> Wooderson: when you installed ubuntu, it asked you for what you wanted your root password to be
[06:05] <bulmer> Sir_Sid: cool, download it, its a really good book ..for free
[06:05] <jrib> Wooderson: you don't need to set a root password, Ubuntu prefers that you use sudo instead.  See the link from ubotu
[06:05] <Wooderson> it says sorry try again =\
[06:05] <gogeta> untill you relise its sudo
[06:06] <jrib> !root > Wooderson (read the private message from ubotu)
[06:06] <gogeta> lol
[06:06] <CyberMad> scguy318 so there is 50 PC, so i must add 50 x 50 = 250 ;(
[06:06] <Sir_Sid> bulmer: yeah Im lookin throuhg it
[06:06] <Forager> bulmer: That's the direction I was going in.  when I ran ifup, DCHPDISCOVER was broadcasting DHCP requests to the wrong subnet, but I don't know if that's relevant.
[06:06] <CyberMad> scguy318 do you know any plugin for XMPP so can automatically all nickname?
[06:06] <Wooderson> ut o
[06:06] <bulmer> Forager: try man dhclient  to give you info on how to acquire ip address
[06:06] <CyberMad> *so can automatically add all nickname?
[06:07] <scguy318> CyberMad: mm, I'm not sure, though I know Pidgin has a Search for Users feature
[06:07] <gogeta> wooderson dont worry i whnt for suse to ubuntu i asked the same question
[06:07] <crazy6> scguy318: can I install a kenrel package .deb from a rescue shell, or does it rely on reading what modules are currenty loaded in a "proper" bootup?
[06:08] <gogeta> crazy6 i dont see why not
[06:08] <gogeta> but you might brake everything
[06:08] <whiskeytango> So.. to get around the steaminstaller.msi issue i just googled steaminstall.exe ..
[06:08] <gogeta> wine can install a msi package
[06:08] <mocie_girl> ness
[06:09] <whiskeytango> I couldnt get it too, even with msiexec
[06:09] <whiskeytango> kept giving me errors
[06:09] <scguy318> whiskeytango: what errors?
[06:09] <whiskeytango> It acted as if i was asking HOW to install it "Usage..."
[06:10] <Wooderson> it says enter new unix password
[06:10] <Wooderson> that my new root password?
[06:10] <scguy318> Wooderson: yes
[06:10] <gogeta> wooderson your root pass = same as your user pass
[06:10] <jrib> Wooderson: there's no reason to set a root password
[06:10] <scguy318> Wooderson: though I don't see why you need to set one :)
[06:10] <Wooderson> idk either
[06:10] <Wooderson> i usually did before
[06:10] <jrib> Wooderson: then don't do it...
[06:11] <Wooderson> o well
[06:11] <Wooderson> ok
[06:11] <Wooderson> now i need your help again
[06:11] <Wooderson> how the f do i install java
[06:11] <Wooderson> lol
[06:11] <jrib> !java > Wooderson (read the private message from ubotu)
[06:11] <scguy318> Wooderson: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[06:11] <Wooderson> thats it?
[06:11] <Wooderson> jesus thats so easy
[06:11] <scguy318> Wooderson: for the JRE runtime, yes
[06:11] <scguy318> Wooderson: for plugins, sun-java6-plugins
[06:12] <Wooderson> rofl
[06:12] <Wooderson> u guys are gods
[06:12] <pavel> has anyone got glest running?
[06:12] <Wooderson> all i really do is play runescape if anyones heard of it
[06:12] <Wooderson> hence why i need java
[06:12] <Wooderson> :P
[06:12] <scguy318> Wooderson: bah Runescape :P
[06:12] <nickrud> !enter | Wooderson
[06:12] <whiskeytango> Except my video card has no drivers so im at basic level and i cant get steam to even show up.
[06:12] <ubotu> Wooderson: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:13] <scguy318> Wooderson: i got to level 45 before I stopped
[06:13] <pavel> wooderson: addictive game
[06:13] <Wooderson> lol im lvl 102
[06:13] <Wooderson> yes its very very addicting
[06:13] <pavel> whats the current version of xserver?
[06:13] <nickrud> !info | xserver-xorg
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about info - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <crazy6> scguy318: how to make network not start at boot? (not always near wireless AP or plugged in)
[06:13] <nickrud> !info  xserver-xorg
[06:13] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.2-0ubuntu11 (feisty), package size 440 kB, installed size 1320 kB
[06:13] <Wooderson> i like how my irc is transparent and i can see my desktop picture
[06:14] <Wooderson> mmmm sophia bush =]
[06:14] <whiskeytango> Hey, if i have a PCI express card in my PC is it going to override my chipset so i cant get a signal throught my chipset ?
[06:14] <jbu311> does ubuntu come with python installed? (sorry if this is a newb question)
[06:14] <jrib> jbu311: yes
[06:14] <scguy318> crazy6: like not load up?
[06:14] <pavel> nickrud ty
[06:14] <scguy318> crazy6: well, you dont have to do anything, I guess, the interfaces are initialized but not hooked to anything
[06:14] <jbu311> jrib, thanks
[06:14] <Yoric1> Yeah, most of the programs are Python in Ubuntu's devstuff jbu311
[06:14] <nickrud> whiskeytango: you can tell X to use the on board by specifying the pci id
[06:14] <Wooderson> o u know what i need to install ati video card drivers... can i do that on linux?
[06:14] <jbu311> jrib, do u know how to tell what version of python i have?
[06:14] <jrib> !ati > Wooderson (read the private message from ubotu)
[06:15] <mage__> !logs
[06:15] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[06:15] <Wooderson> jeez ur on the ball tonight =]
[06:15] <nickrud> whiskeytango: lspci  will tell you the pci id, replace the one in /etc/X11/org.conf
[06:15] <scguy318> jbu311: random guess, but python -v or python --version?
[06:15] <jrib> jbu311: python --version
[06:15] <jbu311> thanks
[06:15] <keeks> Hi, I need to format my HD to install ubuntu? I have a mac is it possible to do it there?
[06:15] <scguy318> !mac | keeks
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <scguy318> bah
[06:16] <scguy318> keeks: lemme find a guide
[06:16] <whiskeytango> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0421 (rev a1)
[06:16] <jrib> keeks: the installer should format the partition
[06:16] <keeks> Where should I look?
[06:17] <keeks> it's the first time using linux, in this case ubuntu
[06:17] <jrib> keeks: it's a wizard type program, you just follow the directions.  It will be obvious
[06:17] <nickrud> whiskeytango: BusID "PCI:2:0:0" then
[06:17] <whiskeytango> nickrud, can you point me towards a walkthrough for this so i dont blow up my PC?
[06:17] <nickrud> whiskeytango: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will walk you through
[06:18] <nickrud> whiskeytango: worst thing that will happen is X will try to talk to a non-existent card
[06:18] <pavel> nickrud: do you know how i can get the latest version of xserver?
[06:18] <Wooderson> so how long have yall been using linux?
[06:19] <scguy318> Wooderson: since April
[06:19] <nickrud> pavel: install from source. Gutsy won't have it either
[06:19] <xanadu> Will ubuntu 7.10 change too much before the official production release in next month?
[06:19] <Wooderson> and your pretty comfortable with it?
[06:19] <pavel> nickrud: do u know where the source is?
[06:19] <nickrud> pavel: x.org
[06:19] <Wooderson> i used it for like a year then gave up and went to windows =[
[06:19] <jrib> Wooderson: we like to keep #ubuntu just for support, but your welcomed to ask those questions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:19] <pavel> nickrud: oh, shoulda guessed
[06:19] <whiskeytango> nicrud, so i want to replace what i have with BusID "PCI:2:0:0" right?
[06:19] <mtx1> i am setting up an ftp and for some when i type in this sudo useradd userftp -p your_password -d /home/FTP-shared -s /bin/false   it adds but when i set it to change the password of the user it says "useradd: group userftp exists - if you want to add this user to that group, use -g."  how do i add a user?
[06:19] <Wooderson> my bad didnt even know i was in a support channel
[06:20] <nickrud> pavel: it's not a walk in the park to compile, and doesn't put things where ubuntu expects them, making it even more difficult
[06:20] <Wooderson> thank you all for your help ill probably be back with more questions :P
[06:20] <pavel> nickrud: well usually compi;ing seems to work for me, dependencies is wher ei get problems
[06:20] <nickrud> pavel: or, at least it didn't when I was compiling it, I don't expect that has changed
[06:21] <gunspoja> gday everyone
[06:21] <rodge> gday
[06:21] <nickrud> pavel: x doesn't have much in the way of dependencies, it provides nearly everything itself. That, at least is easy ;)
[06:21] <rafael__> hello, if the site ubuntu and google dont help me with webcam..  where can i get more information ?
[06:21] <gunspoja> if I do the following command: "xbcomp mirrorboard_alt.xkb $DISPLAY 2>/dev/null", what will that do, and how easy is it to reverse?
[06:21] <pavel> nickrud:o ok, then i dont expect to have any problems, ty!
[06:22] <emeriste> all of a sudden my sound doesn't work
[06:22] <Mexicali> como instalo java en edubuntu
[06:22] <jrib> !webcam > rafael__ (read the private message from ubotu)
[06:22] <jrib> !es | Mexicali
[06:22] <ubotu> Mexicali: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:22] <rafael__> jrib, thank u
[06:22] <scguy318> Mexicali: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[06:22] <bulmer> mtx sudo passwd username
[06:23] <rafael__> Mexicali, /j #ubuntu-br
[06:23] <Forager__> Bulmer, It isn't working out...
[06:23] <bulmer> Forager__: whats not working out? what did you do?
[06:24] <Wooderson> back again how do i change directorys to where i downloaded my file
[06:24] <sircharles> how do i mount cds?
[06:24] <gunspoja> sircharles, with 'mnt' command?
[06:24] <scguy318> sircharles: ISOs or actual CDs?
[06:24] <gunspoja> or mount, either
[06:24] <bruenig> sircharles, mount /dev/whatever /mount/point
[06:24] <jrib> Wooderson: where did you download it to?  What are you trying to do?
[06:24] <bruenig> there is no such thing as mnt
[06:24] <sircharles> k thnx
[06:24] <scguy318> Wooderson: cd /path/to/file
[06:24] <bulmer> Wooderson: its like DOS command.. cd  as in change directory
[06:24] <Wooderson> i downloaded an ati driver to the desktop
[06:24] <xerophyte> if i have lvm partition .. how can i find how much disk usage on that parition without mounting it
[06:24] <gunspoja> bruenig, yeah, i just realised
[06:24] <scguy318> Wooderson: or cd relative/path/to/.../to/1337/file
[06:25] <scguy318> *..
[06:25] <whiskeytango> nickrud, if its set to BusID "PCI:2:0:0" do i just change the 2 to a 1 ?
[06:25] <jrib> Wooderson: are you positive you need to do this?  The Restricted Driver Manager should be your first choice
[06:25] <mce01> hello, we have computer pentium III  by #ubuntu, for compatible hardware, what's good specifikasi hardware?
[06:25] <Wooderson> i followed the thingy the bot said
[06:25] <summer_s4> i have a program installed, but i want to know how to include it into the application list
[06:25] <bruenig> scguy318, excellent advice
[06:25] <Wooderson> it said download the driver then do this and that
[06:25] <Forager__> bulmer: I tried (in sudo -i) dhclient -s (Router Address) which returned no DCHPOFFERS THen I repeated the command with the correct subnet mask to no avail.
[06:25] <scguy318> mce01: how much memory do you have?
[06:26] <bulmer> Forager: man dhclient again..you used the wrong option it seems
[06:26] <mce01> memory we have 168mb
[06:26] <scguy318> mce01: mm, pretty low for Ubuntu, I suggest checking out the Damn Small Linux and Puppy Linux distros
[06:26] <scguy318> mce01: Ubuntu may not run very well on your hardware
[06:27] <jrib> Wooderson: that's not what I read there, it recommends Restricted Driver Manager at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI.  Unless you have some card that the page says is not supported?
[06:27] <Wooderson> omg im stupid
[06:27] <nickrud> whiskeytango: you'd set it to the busid of the video card. there should have been two listed in lspci, unless the one on board is disabled in bios
[06:27] <Wooderson> i figured it out lol
[06:27] <Wooderson> u were right restricted driver ftw !
[06:27] <whiskeytango> I didnt disable... And it just listed one.
[06:27] <summer_s4> I have sunbird (mozilla's calender) in a directory, and i want to know how to make it appear in the application/office list
[06:27] <bruenig> summer_s4, write a .desktop file and drop it in /usr/share/applications
[06:28] <Wooderson> ok i gotta restart
[06:28] <Wooderson> cya
[06:28] <mce01> how about to change memory 256m scguy318
[06:28] <whiskeytango> So might my PCI card disable it to prevent device conflicts?
[06:28] <gunspoja> summer_s4, add it to the menu
[06:28] <scguy318> mce01: if you had 256 MBs, then Ubuntu would probably run ok
[06:28] <scguy318> mce01: but the more the better :)
[06:28] <summer_s4> gunspoja: umm... can you elaborate?
[06:28] <bruenig> summer_s4, he means what I said
[06:28] <scguy318> nickrud: apologize for intrusion, but why the messing with Bus ID for vid card?
[06:28] <gunspoja> summer_s4, right-click on the menu and select "edit menus"
[06:28] <summer_s4> bruenig: how do i make a .desktop file?
[06:29] <bruenig> summer_s4, you will see, there are tons of them in /usr/share/applications
[06:29] <mce01> thanx scugy318..  :-)
[06:29] <gunspoja> summer_s4, and then select the menu you want, click "new item" and type in the command
[06:29] <whiskeytango> Im trying to point X towards my chipset instead of my PCIE card
[06:29] <nickrud> scguy318: whiskeytango has two cards, and wants to designate which is used by X
[06:29] <scguy318> nickrud: ah
[06:29] <demon_spork> how do I get something via CVS from sourceforge.net?  I have the address and the module, but I don't know where to go from there.  http://nvclock.cvs.sourceforge.net/nvclock and the module is nvclock
[06:29] <whiskeytango> ok, well im going to go check my BIOS, ill be back in a while i guess.
[06:29] <Poul|Raider> anyone here good at mosml?
[06:29] <nickrud> scguy318: and intrusion it was not, I got lucky this time :)
[06:29] <scguy318> demon_spork: nvclock is in the repos I believe
[06:30] <scguy318> demon_spork: unless you have a need for the latest CVS?
[06:30] <gerath> Dose anyone know if you have a home network with a router and two computers both running at the same time with Linux on them do they fight with Dhcp or ip transhlation or any other problems of that sort
[06:30] <scguy318> gerath: no
[06:30] <scguy318> gerath: the two machines each obtain a separate DHCP lease
[06:30] <summer_s4> can someone tell me (i am embarrassed to ask this) how to get a sunbird icon?
[06:30] <bruenig> summer_s4, there are icons in the directory I am sure
[06:31] <scguy318> gerath: and the router's job of NAT translation should be just fine with >= 1 machines
[06:31] <demon_spork> scguy318, I have a need for the latest, the repo version has no support for the 8 series GPUs
[06:31] <scguy318> demon_spork: ah, ok
[06:31] <Wooderson> ok is there a way to set the port permantly to the irc server so i wont have to keep typing /server ircserver port
[06:31] <gerath> Ok cause I have a desktop and laptop but for some out reason they fight for dhcp lease and yes  it's NAT Pushing out the ip address
[06:31] <lekremyelsew> hey all
[06:31] <demon_spork> Wooderson, using Xchat correct>
[06:31] <scguy318> demon_spork: to checkout a CVS repo, you need to install the cvs package
[06:32] <demon_spork> done
[06:32] <demon_spork> I just need the command to get it
[06:32] <Wooderson> um
[06:32] <Wooderson> yes
[06:32] <lekremyelsew> could someone help me reconfigure my xorg session it got completely jacked up after i did a update
[06:32] <demon_spork> I don't even know where to begin, I have gotten 2 or 3 things from cvs by copying the commands, but I haven't learned it yet
[06:32] <Wooderson> woops
[06:33] <scguy318> demon_spork: basically you are simply doing an anonymous checkout from CVS
[06:33] <lekremyelsew> its just one command right?
[06:33] <demon_spork> Wooderson, in the network list edit freenode
[06:33] <summer_s4> i thank you all for helping me at my most ignorand moments
[06:33] <scguy318> demon_spork: then taking the source and building it
[06:33] <scguy318> demon_spork: so, in your case
[06:33] <scguy318> demon_spork: from this page: http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=21335
[06:33] <demon_spork> scguy318, yeah, but it isn't accepting the "anonymous" user
[06:34] <Wooderson> i dont see edit freenode
[06:34] <scguy318> demon_spork: I checked it out just fine
[06:34] <scguy318> demon_spork: it should be  cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@nvclock.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/nvclock co -P nvclock
[06:34] <demon_spork> scguy, ah, I used the wrong path, I use /cvs/nvclock
[06:34] <demon_spork> rather than cvsroot
[06:34] <scguy318> demon_spork: ah, thats probably it :)
[06:34] <gerath> Scguy with two machines on the router with nat is that a issues
[06:35] <scguy318> gerath: no
[06:35] <demon_spork> Wooderson, Add a network called "Freenode" to the list
[06:35] <summer_s4> i thank you all for helping me at my most ignorand moments
[06:35] <scguy318> gerath: thats exactly what NAT is designed to handle
[06:35] <summer_s4> how do i set up heartbeat
[06:35] <scguy318> gerath: summer_s4 np
[06:35] <scguy318> oops
[06:35] <scguy318> er, yeah
[06:35] <Wooderson> o lol i see the network free node now
[06:35] <mtx1> i am setting up an ftp and for some when i type in this sudo useradd userftp -p your_password -d /home/FTP-shared -s /bin/false   it adds but when i set it to change the password of the user it says "useradd: group userftp exists - if you want to add this user to that group, use -g."  how do i add a user?
[06:36] <Wooderson> im guessing put the servers in there?
[06:36] <scguy318> mtx1: wouldn't it be liek sudo useradd <username> -g userftp ...?
[06:36] <demon_spork> Wooderson, then edit the server to say "irc.freenode.net"
[06:36] <scguy318> mtx1: could be off-base tho
[06:36] <juan_ac> Hello! I'm trying to connect my macbook to my desktop (ubuntu 7.04) via ethernet card. Can't get it to work. I have two ethernet cards in my desktop one connected to a DSL modem the other is th one to which i want to connect de macbook. THe fjrst one is up and running, the second one doesn't seem to be well configured. It doesn0t show on System /Administration/Network. I think maybe theproblem is both cards have the same rhine controller but i'm not sure..
[06:36] <juan_ac> ....
[06:36] <Wooderson> it does say freenode.net
[06:37] <demon_spork> "irc.freenode.net"
[06:37] <Wooderson> yea it says that
[06:37] <summer_s4> I am attempting to install heartbeat (very "common" cluster software) but it keeps saying that libc6 isn't satisfiable.  I had attempted to re-install it using synaptic, but it won't work.
[06:37] <Marbug> Is there any way to configure the desktop effects that are in ubuntu, like beryl ?
[06:37] <nickrud> juan_ac: silly question maybe, but are you using a crossover cable?
[06:37] <demon_spork> Wooderson, so have you ever tried connecting  to it from this menu?
[06:37] <Wooderson> ya it default at port 9999
[06:37] <juan_ac> nickrud: not silly! Yes I am
[06:37] <Wooderson> but the port it needs to be is 6667
[06:38] <lastent> hi, I'm having a problem, everytime I turn my computer on I have to reinstall the driver for my Nvidia GeForce Go 7400 because the graphic server falls
[06:38] <summer_s4> juan_ac: you have to configure the eth0 and eth1 to accept and send communications.
[06:38] <demon_spork> Wooderson, so edit the server and change it to "irc.freenode.net/6667"
[06:39] <Wooderson> ahh ok
[06:39] <Forager__> bulmer: What is gconfd?
[06:40] <juan_ac> summer_s4: yeah, eth0 is configured (is the one I'm using rght now to connect to the internet), eth1 is not....  I don't really know how to do it
[06:40] <summer_s4> lastent:  try upgrading your gnome verson to 2.18.3.  You can get the gnome upgrade package at gnomes website with a simple bit of hunt-n-pecking.
[06:40] <bulmer> Forager__: i dont know
[06:41] <summer_s4> juan_ac:  go to system/network and type in your password
[06:41] <Wooderson>  Connection failed. Error: (336130315) error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number
[06:41] <Wooderson>  Are you sure this is a SSL capable server and port?
[06:41] <summer_s4> juan_ac:  then tell me what you see
[06:42] <demon_spork> Wooderson, no SSL
[06:42] <Wooderson> gotcha logged in w00t
[06:43] <Wooderson> now my next question i did the java thing like yall said but firefox still isnt seeing it installed
[06:43] <summer_s4> does anyone know how to get invisilink siginal up for acer laptops to work?
[06:43] <scguy318> Wooderson: u installed plugins too?
[06:43] <Wooderson> um i dont think so
[06:43] <juan_ac> summer_s4: I see in connections, two connections one tha says wirde connection, the other says modem connection
[06:43] <Wooderson> i only did what u said and got java thru the terminal
[06:44] <bulmer> Wooderson: you may have to run  update-alternatives java  to set the one you just installed
[06:44] <scguy318> Wooderson: sudo apt-get instal sun-java6-plugins
[06:44] <scguy318> *install
[06:44] <Wooderson> kk let me try that
[06:44] <summer_s4> ok right click wired connection and click properties (with left button)
[06:44] <scguy318> summer_s4: pardon my ignorance, but what is an Invisilink?
[06:44] <summer_s4> scguy318: it is an acer trademark
[06:44] <lastent> summer_s4, can you help me please?
[06:45] <summer_s4> lastent: what do you need
[06:45] <Forager__> bulmer:  I've tried -r, and -g, but ubuntu isn't taking an address.
[06:45] <lastent> summer_s4, where can i find it? is it a deb?
[06:45] <Wooderson> error could not find plugins
[06:45] <Forager__> bulmer: THe router says it has an addy assigned.
[06:45] <summer_s4> lastent: is what a deb
[06:45] <juan_ac> summer_s4: ok
[06:45] <juan_ac> summer_s4: done
[06:45] <scguy318> Wooderson: sun-java6-plugin
[06:45] <scguy318> Wooderson: i typoed
[06:45] <lastent> the ubuntu 2.18.3
[06:45] <summer_s4> juan_ac: what does it say?
[06:45] <Forager__> bulmer: I'm beginning to wonder if it's a driver issue.
[06:46] <demon_spork> Robert?
[06:46] <dougie> whats a good program for playing audio cd's?
[06:46] <demon_spork> Robert_ ?
[06:46] <bulmer> Forager__: its possible, but most ethernet interface are pretty stable, wireless its different
[06:46] <juan_ac> summer_s4: configuration Automatic DHCP
[06:46] <scguy318> dougie: VLC
[06:46] <Wooderson> cant find plugin
[06:46] <summer_s4> dougie:  rythembox would be good.
[06:46] <Wooderson> i type sudo apt-get  install sun-java6.plugin
[06:46] <bulmer> Forager__: how are you checking that the router says it has an addy assigned? and to which interface mac address?
[06:47] <dougie> ty
[06:47] <summer_s4> juan_ac: go into system/admin/network tools
[06:47] <dougie> trying to figure out if sound is working at all....so far doesn't seem to be
[06:47] <Wooderson> e: couldnt find package sun-java6.plugin
[06:47] <summer_s4> lastent: if you want to know were a .deb, i need to know what it is for
[06:47] <juan_ac> summer_s4: I'm there
[06:47] <scguy318> Wooderson: typoed, sun-java6-plugin
[06:47] <manicnerd> does anyone know if AMD releasing the ati drivers will help me out? (i'm running the x1150 ati integrated laptop card)
[06:48] <Wooderson> ah gotcha
[06:48] <lastent> summer_s4, I'm having a problem, everytime I turn my computer on I have to reinstall the driver for my Nvidia GeForce Go 7400 because the graphic server falls
[06:48] <Wooderson> ding ding ding we have a winner =]
[06:48] <summer_s4> juan_ac: do you see network device?
[06:48] <juan_ac> summer_s4: yeah there are three eth0 l0 and ppp0
[06:49] <summer_s4> lastent:  gnome.org, then i will help you because i need help with it too
[06:49] <Forager__> bulmer:  In the xp laptop, I'm logged into the router.  I have the DHCP Client table up.  Client name ubuntu, IP address <IP_ADDRESS>, MAC address 00:14:bf:57:05:6a Lease time 0:0:34
[06:49] <Wooderson> yay
[06:49] <Wooderson> it works
[06:49] <bruenig> lastent, you reinstall it and then it works in the same session?
[06:49] <ryan__> any fql matter masters?
[06:49] <summer_s4> juan: it must be the pppO.  Choose pppO and click configure
[06:49] <Forager__> bulmer: Compare Router data to Mac Addy in ifconfig and it matches.
[06:49] <summer_s4> lastent:  i will guide you threw
[06:49] <[Nige] > hey all
[06:49] <manicnerd> i'm having a problem with my wireless....sometimes it is seen as wlan0 and sometimes it is seen as eth1....how do i make it one or the other?
[06:49] <Wooderson> ok i think thats all for now... thank you very much everyone for helping me
[06:49] <summer_s4> everyone.  Gnome 2.20 is avalable
[06:49] <bulmer> Forager__: but when you have the ubuntu up, do you see the same? in windows you see those because you are up and running
[06:50] <bruenig> manicnerd, are you switching between kernels
[06:50] <bruenig> !ot | summer_s4
[06:50] <ryan__> oos wrong channel
[06:50] <ubotu> summer_s4: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:50] <manicnerd> bruenig: nope
[06:50] <lastent> summer_s4, Im in gnome,org
[06:50] <juan_ac> summer_s4: isn't that my modem?
[06:50] <summer_s4> lastent: click gnome 2.20 releaced
[06:50] <lastent> ok
[06:50] <demon_spork> scguy318, lol, the reason I need nvclock is so that I can force the fan to keep going.  The bearings are going out and it keeps stopping at the lower settings, a big no no for an 8800GTS, the temp spikes to over 80 within the first 30 seconds without a fan
[06:50] <summer_s4> juan_ac: no.  The modem dosn't want to appear in this thing
[06:50] <[Nige] > Can someone tell me how to identify the parrellel port driver in ubuntu?
[06:50] <bulmer> Forager__: once you have ubuntu up, just type dhclient
[06:51] <juan_ac> summer_s4: ok
[06:51] <Forager__> bulmer:  ifconfig doesn't show me an IP address.  Firefox will not rez a server.
[06:51] <scguy318> demon_spork: have you successfully checked it out?
[06:51] <summer_s4> lastent: on the right hand side, you should see installing gnome, click it
[06:51] <justinhe> hello,excuse me, can i install ubuntu minizum ?
[06:51] <lastent> ok
[06:51] <summer_s4> juan_ac: click configure
[06:51] <bulmer> [Nige] : lshw
[06:51] <juan_ac> summer_s4: yep
[06:51] <[Nige] > bulmer, I wil give it ago, i didnt think it told me the driver name though
[06:51] <bulmer> Forager__: once you have ubuntu up, just type dhclient
[06:51] <summer_s4> juan_ac: what does it say?
[06:52] <dougie> dang it....sound is still not working...
[06:52] <Forager__> bulmer:  I have 2 computers running side by side.  One is a desktop running ubuntu and the other is a laptop running xp.
[06:52] <summer_s4> lastent: are you there?
[06:52] <lastent> summer_s4, yes Im
[06:52] <juan_ac> summer_s4: Enable this connection, telephone, account... seems like the modem interface
[06:52] <Forager__> dhclient says no dhcpoffers, no leases in persistent database.
[06:52] <bulmer> Forager__: okay, the ubuntu is not connecting?
[06:52] <Forager__> correct.
[06:53] <j1> anyone know how to get open gl going on old toshiba laptops?
[06:53] <bulmer> Forager__: pastebin the result of  ip a
[06:53] <summer_s4> juan_ac:  apperantly, the eth0 device is not seen by your prober.  Apperently, you have to have some exotic software.  Sorry.  I did try to do this in a similar setup before but failed miseribly.
[06:53] <Forager__> bulmer:  I don't understand the instruction.
[06:53] <summer_s4> lastent: click the blue GARNOME
[06:54] <lastent> summer_s4, ok i did it
[06:54] <summer_s4> lastent: then on your screen, you should see garnome 2.20.x
[06:54] <summer_s4> lastent: click it
[06:55] <bulmer> Forager__:  type ip a on a terminal and paste the result to pastebin
[06:55] <juan_ac> summer_s4: THanks anyway!!!!! Do you know where can I find some help, I've been trying to do this for months....
[06:55] <lastent> summer_s4, ok
[06:55] <summer_s4> lastent: click garnome-2.20.0.tar.gz
[06:55] <bulmer> juan_ac: which brand of nic card you have  for the 2nd interface?
[06:55] <zetheroo> I am trying to install the latest version of WINE in Ubuntu Feisty.... I am following the How-to form the winehq site.... but I get errors when doing sudo apt-get update    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38985/
[06:56] <robert_> demon_spork, hum?
[06:56] <juan_ac> bulmer: d link
[06:56] <summer_s4> lastent:  it is reccommended that at this point, you transfer the truely personal data to a different user.
[06:56] <juan_ac> bulmer: DFE 520 TX
[06:56] <demon_spork> scguy318, yes, and it is helping me get the last ounce out of my GPU fan as we speak.  It wouldn't be that hard to write a simple script that would periodically check the GPU temp and set the Duty Cycle higher when the GPU temp gets too high
[06:56] <summer_s4> lastent: but gnome 2.20 is well tested, and i have had no problomes with it (yet, i never tested it yet)
[06:56] <lastent> summer_s4, uhm why?
[06:56] <bulmer> juan_ac: is the interface recognized in dmesg? or /var/log/messages have entries for it during boot?
[06:57] <zetheroo> anyone?
[06:57] <robert_> oh
[06:57] <scguy318> zetheroo: have you tried running that sudo apt-get update?
[06:57] <scguy318> zetheroo: and you did follow the instructions to the T?
[06:57] <summer_s4> lastent: so in case something goes wrong, you can go back and restore everything.  Make sure to give it every privilage.
[06:57] <rafael__> hello
[06:57] <lastent> summer_s4, even if I have a different partition for / and /home
[06:57] <rafael__> anyone here installed a logitech webcam ? i got some errors
[06:57] <demon_spork> [23:42]  * robert_ exorcises demon_spork :P
[06:57] <summer_s4> lastent: then leave it alone.  If it fails, it will not affect anything.
[06:57] <zetheroo> scguy318: I followed this How-to http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[06:57] <apabae> hello, i'm a newbie with ubuntu (and linux) and have some question...
[06:57] <lastent> summer_s4, ok downloaded it
[06:57] <robert_> demon_spork, the part about where I exor... yeah, that :P
[06:58] <juan_ac> bulmer: http://pastebin.ca/719153 that's my dmesg output
[06:58] <summer_s4> lastent: i assume that you are using firefx
[06:58] <sistom> how do I restart sshd?
[06:58] <j1> zethero give it sudo apt-get update -f (fix missing)
[06:58] <Forager__> Bulmer...  I'll have to manually trqanscribe it... THe computer running ubunto doesn't have a working network connection.
[06:58] <zetheroo> scguy318: I added the repo key.... I added the source.... I did sudo apt-get update.... and there I get the error
[06:58] <lastent> summer_s4, you're asumming well
[06:58] <jrib> sistom: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart
[06:59] <bulmer> Forager__: is the ubuntu pc close by you?
[06:59] <Forager__> right here.
[06:59] <summer_s4> lastent: well... i don't know.  for anything, you could be using programs that came from martians
[06:59] <bulmer> juan_ac: look it up, so you can learn
[07:00] <scguy318> zetheroo: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list and the GPG key which I will give you the path in a moment
[07:00] <summer_s4> lastent:  i assume that your download is at least 9/10 done by now
[07:00] <lastent> summer_s4, i alredy downloaded it
[07:00] <Forager__> it says the inet address is <IP_ADDRESS>/16
[07:00] <summer_s4> lastent: ok.  Double click garnome-2.20.0.tar.gz
[07:00] <juan_ac> bulmer: yeah i don't know what to look for...what should i see? I'm sorry I'm kind of new
[07:01] <lastent> summer_s4, already extracted it
[07:01] <summer_s4> lastent: ok...
[07:01] <bulmer> juan_ac: your hint is  eth
[07:01] <zetheroo> scguy318: sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38986/
[07:01] <sistom> thanks jrib
[07:01] <summer_s4> lastent: ok...  my laptop is sluggish today
[07:01] <juan_ac> bulmer: ok
[07:01] <bulmer> Forager__: okay..do this..  sudo  ifdown eth0  am assuming that interface is eth0
[07:02] <sistom> how do I find out what my computers ip address is in my local network?
[07:02] <bulmer> then ifup eth0
[07:02] <sistom> 10.0.0.x
[07:02] <summer_s4> lastent: the next section will take a while
[07:02] <whiskeytango> Ok, nickrud, that didnt work, its not in my BIOS.  Which is why its not showing up in my lspci
[07:02] <summer_s4> lastent: open up synaptic
[07:02] <bulmer> sistom: visit each one and type ifconfig is they are linux based
[07:02] <lastent> ok
[07:03] <sandrot> anyone have a copy buffer thingy to recommend?
[07:03] <whiskeytango> So, that would mean its borked and ill just wait till the 18th of october.
[07:03] <bulmer> juan_ac: noticed you dont have eth1 up? only eth0?
[07:03] <nickrud> whiskeytango: if it won't show in bios, I wouldn't expect it to be in lspci, and if not in lspci, X certainly won't see it.
[07:03] <summer_s4> search for build-essential
[07:03] <sandrot> erm, something which hangs out on the desktop and remembers all of your copy paste stuff
[07:03] <scguy318> zetheroo: did you add the Wine BudgetDedicated repos? i dont see them in sources.list
[07:03] <lastent> summer_s4, already installed
[07:03] <bulmer> Forager__: then type   dhclient
[07:03] <Red_Tide> hey I am thinking of switching my dad over to Ubuntu my one worry is digital cameras are there any significant hiccups?
[07:03] <summer_s4> lastent: well just set it to re-install
[07:03] <Wooderson> i have another question lol.... how do i install gmail notifyer ?
[07:03] <whiskeytango> Its not a big enough deal for me to spend more time that I already have, i know a fix is coming out for the 8500 i have, i was just hoping for a quick method of playing css and two worlds.
[07:04] <nickrud> whiskeytango: You need to figure out why it's not in bios. Nearly every bios I've seen allows you to turn it on and off
[07:04] <Forager__> Bulmer...done...  DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67... NoDHCPOFFERS recieved.
[07:04] <lastent> ok
[07:04] <lastent> summer_s4, ok
[07:04] <summer_s4> lastent: you never know if it is faulty
[07:04] <juan_ac> bulmer: yes! Only eth0, no eth1....
[07:04] <nickrud> whiskeytango: ah, well, be the fox :)
[07:04] <bulmer> Red_Tide: you camera has removable mem card ? plug it in to your card reader attached to your pc
[07:04] <jrib> Red_Tide: if it works as a UMS, there should be no issues.  Just plug it in and it gets mounted like a usb key.  Then you're asked if you want to import photos
[07:04] <summer_s4> lastent: then do the same for flex and bison (2 seperate things)
[07:04] <juan_ac> bulmer: yes! Only eth0 only the one i'm using right now.... the other doesn't seem ti appear
[07:04] <whiskeytango> nickrud, im sure i messed it up when i installed my 8500, the case was jammed and i wasnt exactly gentle getting it open:P  lost my front usb ports as well :D
[07:04] <bulmer> juan_ac: that meant it has not been detected, so you need to load the driver for it
[07:04] <nickrud> heh
[07:04] <Forager__> bulmer: running dhclient...  No DHCPOFFERS recieved.
[07:05] <lastent> summer_s4, I already have those
[07:05] <summer_s4> lastent: just reinstall.
[07:05] <bulmer> Forager__: are you sure you have a good cat 5 cable? straight and not cross over?
[07:05] <Niti> people, I've screwed up my windows system through a disk format. what ubuntu app should I use to recover my data?
[07:05] <bulmer> for your ubuntu box okay
[07:05] <zetheroo> scguy318: yeah I know,,,,, i don't see them either..... but when I go to the Software Sources list they are in the Third-Party section
[07:05] <whiskeytango> the funny part is that steam will load and everything, i just have no text, its just a  bunch of blank boxes
[07:05] <summer_s4> lets talk in private chat
[07:05] <Forager__> bulmer: yes.  The connections work fine in a windows environment.
[07:05] <scguy318> zetheroo: perhaps you should remove them from third-party and add them manually to sources.list
[07:06] <scguy318> zetheroo: as the instructions said
[07:06] <bulmer> Forager__: try to use the nm applet
[07:06] <juan_ac> bulmer: OK I tried that but I get an error when I'm compiling the driver
[07:06] <Forager__> bulmer: I'm also looking ath the GUI window "Devices - Network Tools" and I see something disturbing.
[07:06] <bulmer> juan_ac: well i dont know what errors you're getting, find a dlink driver for your ethernet nic and load it in, instead of compiling
[07:07] <scguy318> whiskeytango: u need to get the tahoma font
[07:07] <zetheroo> scguy318: the instructions don't say to do it manually ..... they say to enter this in the terminal: sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[07:07] <bulmer> Forager__: tell
[07:07] <Wooderson> does anyone know how to install gmail notifier on ubuntu?
[07:07] <Red_Tide> Forager__ try unplugging your router's power for ten seconds and then try again
[07:07] <CoasterMaster> !info formula
[07:07] <ubotu> Package formula does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:07] <xerophyte> which dns server is good bind, powerdns, or anything else ? any recommendation ?
[07:07] <juan_ac> bulmer: ok
[07:07] <zetheroo> scguy318: and thats what I did
[07:07] <CoasterMaster> !find formula
[07:07] <ubotu> Found: zope-formulator, kformula
[07:07] <CoasterMaster> damn
[07:07] <scguy318> zetheroo: mm, you're right
[07:07] <CoasterMaster> Does anyone know what package contains OpenOffice Formula?
[07:08] <juan_ac> bulmer: i have the one that came with the card, don't know how to load it... do I have to search for other?
[07:08] <Forager__> bulmer: The entire Interface Information column says not available.  Hardware address, MTU, State, all 5 items show as unavailable.
[07:08] <zetheroo> scguy318: do you know what i should put there if I want to do it manually?
[07:08] <bulmer> juan_ac: use the linux version, not the windows version, and if not on the cdrom, google for it
[07:08] <scguy318> zetheroo: deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt feisty main #WineHQ - Ubuntu 7.04 "Feisty Fawn"
[07:08] <scguy318> deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt feisty main #WineHQ - Ubuntu 7.04 "Feisty Fawn"
[07:09] <scguy318> zetheroo: though it may not be it
[07:09] <scguy318> zetheroo: im thinking it could be the GPG key operation
[07:09] <krammer> anybody have pidgin? which ver. is best
[07:09] <Wooderson> scguy318: do u know how to install gmail notifier?
[07:09] <zetheroo> scguy318: gosh... ok
[07:09] <juan_ac> bulmer: I got the linux version  is a *.tar.gz
[07:09] <bulmer> Forager__: under system->administration->networking  is it showing?
[07:09] <scguy318> zetheroo: gimme a moment
[07:10] <bulmer> juan_ac: then you have to untar and compile it..
[07:10] <scguy318> zetheroo: just redo the GPG key operation I suppose
[07:10] <juan_ac> bulmer: yep and then i get that error that I don't understand
[07:10] <wundaboy> i have an ext3 filesystem that comes up with errors every time it boots and i cant figure out how to fix it
[07:10] <scguy318> wundaboy: fsck error?
[07:11] <wundaboy> yeah
[07:11] <scguy318> wundaboy: if you are taken to a recovery console, then just type fsck and let it run
[07:11] <bulmer> juan_ac: i dont understand it either, specially if i dont see the errors
[07:11] <scguy318> wundaboy: thats it
[07:11] <wundaboy> scguy318: i tried ... it ran and fixed some things
[07:11] <wundaboy> then it exited
[07:11] <wundaboy> i rebooted, errors again
[07:11] <scguy318> wundaboy: dying HDD?
[07:11] <Forager__> bulmer: In Network Settings (System>Administration>Network) I show wired connection eth0 and eth1.  I don't use eth1.  Both say address DHCP.
[07:11] <wundaboy> it came up with a console again ... i tried fsck and it said that it was dangerous to run fsck on a mounted fs
[07:12] <Patch> Hi, I'm new to ubuntu and need help updating my graphics driver.  New to IRC too.  Is there a protocal as to how the support goes in here?
[07:12] <wundaboy> scguy318: i hope its not dying ...
[07:12] <juan_ac> BUlmer: Yes of course, I'm sorry... I will compile it again and tell you what's the output
[07:12] <scguy318> wundaboy: was this in recovery mode?
[07:12] <bulmer> Forager__: which interface you want activated?  then select it click and activate
[07:12] <wundaboy> scguy318: it told me it was starting a recovery console
[07:12] <scoobydoo28139> can I get some help installing my drivers for 8500gt?
[07:12] <scguy318> wundaboy: weird, you can try doing fsck from a LiveCD
[07:12] <heguru> !irc | Patch
[07:12] <ubotu> Patch: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[07:12] <xris_> scoobydoo28139: have you tried Envy?
[07:12] <scguy318> wundaboy: after sudo umount -a of course
[07:13] <wundaboy> hrmm thats an idea, ill try that out
[07:13] <MrPrimate> I'm trying to move /usr to another partition, .. I have copied the files and added the fstab entry, can I just delete /usr on the root directory and reboot?
[07:13] <heguru> !guidelines | Patch
[07:13] <ubotu> Patch: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:13] <Forager__> bulmer eth 0 has a check nect to it.  there is no activate.
[07:13] <Wooderson> !gmail | wooderson
[07:13] <scoobydoo28139> ?envy
[07:13] <wundaboy> scguy318: yeah im not a linux nub ... i just have never had an fs that would not fix itself
[07:13] <xris_> scoobydoo28139: google Envy nvidia. it does all the driver stuff for you.
[07:13] <scoobydoo28139> xris: what is envy
[07:13] <Patch> !Guidelines
[07:13] <bulmer> Forager__: make sure you are activating the correct interface connected to that router..check the led to verify things
[07:13] <scoobydoo28139> ok i will try thank you
[07:13] <heguru> !envy | scoobydoo28139
[07:13] <ubotu> scoobydoo28139: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[07:14] <portablejim> Anyone know how to get a D-Link DWL-G122 Rev.C to work on 7.04?
[07:14] <toni_> hi is it possible to see the changelog for single packages before I do an update? Where can i find themn?
[07:14] <bulmer> MrPrimate: you may find yourself not able to boot after moving /usr  just a warning
[07:15] <scoobydoo28139> lool may break my machine very badly? wtf??
[07:15] <scoobydoo28139> lol
[07:15] <bulmer> portablejim: what kind of interface is that?
[07:15] <MrPrimate> bulmer, that's what I am afraid of, suppose I will finish downloading ubuntu iso to make a rescue disc first
[07:15] <Patch> Haha
[07:15] <portablejim> USB
[07:15] <scguy318> wundaboy: yeah, I suggest backing up, if you're getting fsck issues twice in a row, it may be your HDD
[07:15] <scguy318> !ask | aldous
[07:15] <murlidhar> how do i get transperancy in drop down menus???
[07:15] <MrPrimate> aldous, you might try being a bit more specific
[07:15] <ubotu> aldous: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:15] <Forager__> bulmer.  Yes, I triple checked.  I also verified the interface in Device manager. (which correctly declared the Vendor, Device and bus type, but Status = status and Device type and capabilities are both "Unknown".
[07:15] <murlidhar> in the panel ofcourse
[07:16] <Niti> what's the best data recovery in Ubuntu
[07:16] <MrPrimate> Niti, what sort of data is lost and how/where is it ?
[07:16] <The-KMT> hello
[07:16] <bulmer> Forager__: since you have two interfaces on that ubuntu, remove one that dont work, leave the one working
[07:16] <zetheroo> scguy318 : do you know how I can remove the GPG key i added?
[07:16] <MrPrimate> portablejim, you've tried ndiswrapper ?
[07:17] <aldous> please teach me to use Gaim or help download the yahoo messenger i'm using V7.04
[07:17] <bejeezus> hello i have messed up the perl libraries on my ubuntu system wats to best way to fix this ?
[07:17] <scguy318> bejeezuz: reinstall the Perl packages
[07:17] <MrPrimate> aldous, gaim is fairly self explanatory -- do you have the program running yet?,
[07:17] <juan_ac> Bulmer: I'm sorry! I pasted the output here (http://pastebin.ca/719320) cause a I really don't understand it
[07:17] <yrlnry_> What package do I need to install to get the man pages for signal(3) and fgets(3)?
[07:17] <portablejim> I had but it did not seem to work.
[07:17] <scguy318> zetheroo: you can go to Software Sources
[07:17] <MrPrimate> aldous, you just set up accounts for whichever services you use (AIM, Yahoo, etc), and then log in , tc
[07:17] <The-KMT> when i connect an usb device it's not detected , how can i mount it manually ?
[07:17] <scguy318> zetheroo: and remove the key from there
[07:17] <bejeezus> how do i do it ? i tried sudo apt-get install perl didnt work
[07:18] <heguru> bejeezus: sudo apt-get --reinstall install perl
[07:18] <MrPrimate> portablejim, my experience is that the windows XP drivers for most network cards work with ndiswrapper
[07:18] <aldous> that's what i thought but i can't connect through gaim
[07:18] <scguy318> The-KMT: sudo fdisk -l to determine dev name of the USB key, sudo mount /dev/<the dev> /a/desired/mount/point
[07:18] <Niti> MrPrimate: my D partition, I formated my whote disk during the Ubuntu installation
[07:18] <zetheroo> scguy318 : well i would if i could see the key there..... but all there is is one called Scott Richie
[07:18] <The-KMT> i'll try , thanks
[07:18] <bulmer> juan_ac: did you get a chance to read the README file in that directory? you have to config and then make..
[07:18] <MrPrimate> aldous, if you supply the right credentials you should be able to connect, i know aim works in it currently for sure (am using it)
[07:18] <scguy318> zetheroo: interesting, looks like your GPG key db is screwy :(
[07:18] <MrPrimate> Niti, did you simply format the disk or install on top of it ?
[07:18] <portablejim> OK. I'll try that again (I just went though a reinstall, so my previous attempt was on the previous install).
[07:18] <zetheroo> scguy318: things are just getting better....ha
[07:19] <bejeezus> just tried --reinstall install perl i keep getting errors like this Can't locate File/Glob.pm in @INC
[07:19] <scguy318> zetheroo: you have any place where I can send files?
[07:19] <aldous> it doesn't accept the password i'm giving it i'm sure it is the right password for my yahoo account