[12:07] <Mithrandir> phratman: I'm not sure exactly in which case the offending library lives, so yes, all the ones you have installed already at least.
[12:10] <phratman> Mithrandir: So, should I download and install everything in there? What would you do in my situation?
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #111119 in Ubuntu "After Slide Show Recovery file window pops up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111119
[12:12] <Mithrandir> phratman: ideally, you download all of it and run dpkg -l $packagename for each of them; if it says "ii" on the start of the line that dpkg outputs, you run sudo dpkg -i $package.deb
[12:13] <phratman> Mithrandir: All of the packages in <...>/tmp ?
[12:13] <phratman> Mithrandir: Sorry if I'm being redundant, but I want to make sure that the system is setup just as you want it to be for testing purposes. Also the thought of reinstalling Ubuntu on this machine with the proper setup is not a very comfortable one.
[12:15] <Mithrandir> phratman: yes, all of the packages in there.
[12:15] <Mithrandir> phratman: if they don't help, downgrading to the version in the repositories should be painless.
[12:15] <phratman> Mithrandir: Okay. Thanks.
[12:18] <phratman> Mithrandir: There's a ksysguard and a ksysguardd package. Is the latter basically a debugging package?
[12:19] <Nafallo> no, a daemon.
[12:19] <phratman> Ah.
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #111120 in evolution (main) "Evolution crashes on print command ." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111120
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #111121 in Ubuntu "I cannot boot after an initial install on an HP machine" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111121
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #111122 in Ubuntu "cygwin xdmcp login freezes when logging into gnome, but not XFCE" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111122
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #111123 in linux-meta (main) "i2o DPT RAID driver broken. Known bug in 2.6.20. Patch available." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111123
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #111124 in beagle (main) "beagle throws exceptions, fills hard drive with logs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111124
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #111125 in vorbis-tools (main) "Oggenc don't read FLAC as input" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111125
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #111126 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV in Arts::Dispatcher::terminate()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111126
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #111128 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111128
[01:46] <ubotu> New bug: #111129 in Ubuntu "Sound doesn't work for Realtek ALC861-VD (HDA Intel)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111129
[01:46] <ubotu> New bug: #111130 in python-setuptools (main) "[apport]  easy_install-2.4 crashed with EnvironmentError in get_config()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111130
[01:51] <ubotu> New bug: #111132 in firefox (main) "Firefox closed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111132
[01:51] <ubotu> New bug: #111133 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111133
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #111134 in nzb (universe) "no desktop file or menu entry" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111134
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #111135 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "linux-image-kdump is missing in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111135
[02:00] <phratman> Mithrandir: Thank you very much :D
[02:02] <Mithrandir> phratman: it fixed the problem?
[02:05] <phratman> Mithrandir: There is just one minor thing. You have a few dev packages as dependencies, which probably aren't necessary for normal users.
[02:06] <phratman> Mithrandir: And yes, it did fix the problem :)
[02:08] <Mithrandir> they're automatically built when I built the source package.
[02:08] <Mithrandir> good to hear; I'll see if I can get this into -proposed tomorrow or so
[02:08] <Mithrandir> now I want to sleep a bit
[02:13] <Wide-eyes> Hello BugSaquad!
[02:20] <Wide-eyes> ANybother there?
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #111137 in software-properties (main) "Software properties has duplicate gksu" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111137
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #111138 in debian-installer (main) "Ubuntu Server 7.04 AMD64 installs generic kernel by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111138
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #111139 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with TypeError in timeout)()"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111139
[02:32] <petter_> anyone around?
[02:41] <ubotu> New bug: #111141 in Ubuntu "Vertical line character not mapped on Hebrew keyboard layout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111141
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #111142 in slune (universe) "[apport]  slune crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111142
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #111143 in Ubuntu "bright control does not work in gateway laptop display" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111143
[03:15] <ubotu> New bug: #111144 in Ubuntu "problem with some accents with brazilian keyboard model" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111144
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #111145 in Ubuntu "sigmatel STAC9250 on ATI HDA SB on gateway laptop - no sound capture " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111145
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #111146 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Twin USB Joystick not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111146
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #111149 in Ubuntu "System becomes unresponsive after a while on battery life" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111149
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #111150 in Ubuntu "Fatal error upgrading from 6.10 to 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111150
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #111151 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu 7.04 after install will not connect to updater  says refused to connect" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111151
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #111152 in kooldock (universe) "kooldock is unusable, graphics glitchy when scrolling mouse over dock icons" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111152
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #111153 in update-manager (main) "Actualizando" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111153
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #111154 in metacity (main) "Metacity would'nt start after reboot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111154
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #111155 in pyyaml (universe) "sync request pyyaml 3.04-1 from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111155
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #111156 in ezpublish (universe) "No php5 support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111156
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #111157 in powermanagement-interface (main) "Standard hibernate not running" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111157
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #111158 in acpi-support (main) "uswsusp not working through HAL, working manually" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111158
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #111159 in qcad (universe) "[apport]  qcad crashed with SIGILL" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111159
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #111161 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111161
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #111163 in Ubuntu "A-Link WL54USB WLAN not recognized by networkmanager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111163
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #111164 in evolution (main) "Evolution Calendar Date Display wrong" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111164
[06:51] <ubotu> New bug: #111165 in bandwidthd (universe) "bandwithd crashes on starting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111165
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #110970 in cryptsetup "When mounting encrypted drives the password should be asked for graphically and not in text mode" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/110970
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #111166 in firefox (main) "/var/crash/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111166
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #111167 in kdebase (main) "click on program in second desktop crashes taskbar" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111167
[07:01] <ubotu> New bug: #111168 in ndiswrapper (main) "rt73 no longer works on westinghouse laptop in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111168
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #111169 in rapidsvn (universe) "rapidsvn crashes when using kompare to diff files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111169
[07:06] <ubotu> New bug: #107256 in schooltool "Unmet dependencies on Feisty installing SchoolTool (dup-of: 80324)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107256
[07:15] <ubotu> New bug: #111170 in hplip (main) "[apport]  print crashed with AttributeError in printButton_clicked()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111170
[07:36] <ubotu> New bug: #111171 in update-manager (main) "update with alternate CD crashes with CRC check error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111171
[07:41] <ubotu> New bug: #111172 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "[ia64]  creates wrong vmlinu* symlinks" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111172
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #111173 in gparted (main) "gparted does not partition previous partition" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111173
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #111175 in Ubuntu "Add/Remove programs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111175
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #111176 in antennavis (universe) "[apport]  TkAnt crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111176
[08:27] <siretart> anyone using ndiswrapper around?
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #111174 in scim (main) "with scim enabled, oowriter, f-spot, ... crash on startup. (dup-of: 80551)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111174
[08:37] <dholbach> good morning
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #111177 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "usb_suspend need autosuspend sysfs option" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111177
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #111178 in hexter (universe) "[apport]  hexter_gtk crashed with SIGSEGV in free()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111178
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #111179 in alsa-tools (universe) "[apport]  crash after "envy24control -D delta_1010"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111179
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #111180 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "[Feisty regression]  iptables:  Too many levels of symbolic links" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111180
[09:01] <thekorn> good mornning!
[09:02] <dholbach> heya thekorn!
[09:02] <dholbach> how's it going?
[09:03] <siretart> what's the deal with this 'offer someone to mentor this bug'?
[09:03] <siretart> what does this 'mentoring' mean?
[09:03] <dholbach> "help them on their way to find a solution and integrate it into ubuntu"
[09:04] <thekorn> dholbach: hi, I'm fine. how are you?
[09:04] <dholbach> good good - slowly chewing mail from the weekend :)
[09:08] <dholbach> siretart: is that explanation good enough?
[09:10] <dholbach> thekorn: did you review the last change in py-lp-bugs/main?
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #111181 in vorbis-tools (main) "ogg123 crashed at startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111181
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #111182 in kde-guidance (main) "[apport]  displayconfig-restore.py crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111182
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #111183 in Ubuntu "please sync wpasupplicant (0.6.0~cvs20070224-2) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111183
[09:11] <siretart> dholbach: Hm, I'm still not sure when I should use it. everytime I'm willing to upload a debdiff to a specific bug?
[09:11] <siretart> this way I'd have to offer to nearly everything :)
[09:11] <thekorn> dholbach: you mean that "add real name to reporter", no
[09:12] <dholbach> siretart: you have to be willing to help them on the way to the solution - like doing code reviews, assist them with questions etc
[09:12] <dholbach> thekorn: I'll mail that guy
[09:12] <siretart> aah, I see
[09:12] <siretart> thanks
[09:12] <dholbach> thekorn: I'm happy if somebody of the bughelper-dev team commits reviewed changes to /main
[09:12] <thekorn> dholbach: I thought maybe you did
[09:12] <dholbach> no, I didn't :)
[09:13] <dholbach> siretart: it's like helping to form new contributors :)
[09:18] <dholbach> thekorn: do you think we should move branch names to ~bughelper-dev?
[09:19] <thekorn> dholbach: to only allow members of bughelper-dev to push revisions?
[09:19] <dholbach> not bughelper-data, but bughelper and python-launchpad-bugs
[09:19] <dholbach> it's just an idea
[09:19] <thekorn> yes, if that's easy that might be a good solution
[09:20] <dholbach> just push to a different branch location with --remember
[09:20] <dholbach> I think I'll announce it to the lists now
[09:20] <dholbach> and change documentation
[09:20] <dholbach> thekorn: I also make you administrator of the bughelper-dev team
[09:24] <thekorn> dholbach: ok, cool
[09:24] <thekorn> dholbach: do you know why codebrows for bughelper.main doesn't work?
[09:25] <dholbach> what do you mean?
[09:25] <dholbach> that the last commit contains all the merged changes too?
[09:26] <dholbach> thekorn: I'll also trash the Dev/CommandlineZoo page
[09:27] <thekorn> dholbach: well, I always get a server error on this page: http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~bugsquad/bughelper/bughelper.main/changes
[09:27] <dholbach> oh
[09:28] <dholbach> thekorn: ok, that's a bug
[09:28] <dholbach> thekorn: it used to work for me some minutes ago
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #111184 in adept (main) "apt-get crashed while installing firestarter-alreaady downloaded" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111184
[09:30] <dholbach> thekorn: are you going to push the branches there or shall I do it?
[09:31] <dholbach> we even could rename them to /main and /0.1
[09:31] <dholbach> I'll do it now, if you don't mind
[09:31] <thekorn> dholbach: yeah, do it, I think you now the fastest way to do so :)
[09:33] <dholbach> http://code.launchpad.net/~bughelper-dev
[09:33] <thekorn> thanks
[09:35] <thekorn> dholbach: now we should change the old "bugsquad"-branches to "Abandoned" to avoid confusion
[09:35] <dholbach> yeah
[09:35] <dholbach> I changed the wiki docs
[09:40] <dholbach> thekorn: after a while it might make sense to split HTMLOperations.py
[09:41] <dholbach> especially if we break API anyway ;-)
[09:41] <thekorn> dholbach: yes
[09:42] <thekorn> first step might be to move the functions to utils.py
[09:42] <dholbach> i updated the wiki, the docs and announced the change
[09:42] <dholbach> probably, yes
[09:44] <Mithrandir> dholbach: so you can't build any binaries? :-P
[09:44] <dholbach> Mithrandir: hm?
[09:44] <Mithrandir> linux-libc-headers is busted
[09:44] <dholbach> ah nice
[09:48] <dholbach> Mithrandir: it seems I can build binaries just fine
[09:48] <Mithrandir> maybe some bits work.
[09:50] <dholbach> ... and rushes off to the shop - brb
[09:50] <persia> Anything which doesn't use any of the linux-specific headers seems to work (mostly leaves).
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #111186 in beryl-core (universe) "craches login beryl" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111186
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #111187 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "update manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111187
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #111188 in openvpn (universe) "[apport]  package openvpn failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111188
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #111189 in lineakd (universe) "[apport]  lineakd crashed with SIGSEGV in CommandExec::exec()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111189
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #111190 in hotkey-setup (main) "hotkey: "volume down" is non-functional for sony vaio pcg-fx210" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111190
[10:51] <txwikinger2> What is usually done with CoC Violations in bugs?
[10:53] <dholbach> txwikinger2: we kindly remind people to stick to the CoC
[10:53] <dholbach> there's a stock response on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses iirc
[10:53] <txwikinger2> ok .. I thought to do that
[10:54] <Mithrandir> if the abuse continues, it can be escalated to the CC with banning the person from LP.  I don't think that's happened yet.
[10:55] <txwikinger2> I don't think it is so bad, but I think if it is just overlooked it usually gets worse
[10:55] <txwikinger2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/95460/comments/15
[10:55] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 95460 in samba "samba 3.0.24 on feisty is broken" [Undecided,Needs info]
[10:56] <ubotu> New bug: #111191 in Ubuntu "ThinkPad R51 crash(?) when re-opening the lid" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111191
[10:56] <pikkio> hi
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #111192 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in XPending()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111192
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #111193 in kde-guidance (main) "[apport]  displayconfig-restore.py crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111193
[11:13] <maini10> Hi, I need help triaging bug 93081
[11:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 93081 in kdebase "konqueror does not accept SSL certificates "forever"" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/93081
[11:13] <maini10> In my opinion this is not a real bug, at least in the specific case submitted by reporter
[11:13] <maini10> But the reporter disagrees
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #111195 in kdebase (main) "[apport]  kicker crashed with SIGSEGV in KickerTip::display()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111195
[11:16] <Mithrandir> maini10: Lynoure is right; if anything, the labels on the controls should match the behaviour.
[11:16] <ubotu> New bug: #111194 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111194
[11:17] <maini10> Mithrendir: Do you suggest to confirm it?
[11:21] <Mithrandir> maini10: I don't use konqi, but if her report is accurate and you see the same symptoms, I think it should be marked as confirmed, yes.
[11:23] <maini10> Yes, I have noticed that labels don't match with the behaviour, but I thought that was a security restriction
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #111196 in Ubuntu "SyncEvolution (dup-of: 111198)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111196
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #111197 in f-spot (main) "Wrong error message when exporting images" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111197
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #111198 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  SyncEvolution" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111198
[11:32] <dholbach> thekorn: uploaded new packages to gutsy (with the split)
[11:33] <thekorn> dholbach: wow, thanks, you ROCK!
[11:33] <dholbach> thanks :)
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #111199 in bluez-libs (main) "please sync bluez-libs from sid" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111199
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #111200 in openoffice.org (main) "converter wizard doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111200
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #111201 in readahead-list (main) "no documentation provided" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111201
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #111203 in readahead-list (main) "should be split into multiple packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111203
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #111204 in xawtv (universe) "[apport]  xawtv crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111204
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #111205 in zapping (universe) "[apport]  zapping crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_widget_set_sensitive()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111205
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #111206 in Ubuntu "One click is treated as double click" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111206
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #111207 in Ubuntu "[SYNC REQUEST]  nspr from debian main to ubuntu main" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111207
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #111208 in Ubuntu "[SYNC REQUEST]  nss from debian main to ubuntu gutsy main" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111208
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #111210 in Ubuntu "no sound heard (only not supported?)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111210
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #111209 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV in Arts::Dispatcher::terminate()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111209
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #111211 in gnome-panel (main) "Panel not updating when compiz enable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111211
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #111212 in rxvt (universe) "screen corruption with rxvt and emacs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111212
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #111213 in adept (main) "Adept crashes before password request" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111213
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #111214 in Ubuntu "Feisty system crash dhcdbd - avhail-daemon - hcid - kdm - network manager - kdm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111214
[12:52] <ucap> Quick question: can I set all apport bugs to "confirmed" once they have a retrace?
[12:54] <harrisony> ucap: hmm, you can but..i wait till there is a 2nd
[12:55] <ucap> you mean, you wait for a duplicate to show up?
[12:58] <harrisony> ucap: thats what i do
[12:59] <ucap> harrisony: okay, thanks!
[12:59] <pikkio> harrisony: yesterday you asked me my LP profile. It's NOT ~pikkio, but rather ~lorenzo-delledonne
[12:59] <harrisony> pikkio: ok cool, thanks for telling me
[01:00] <pikkio> somebody has "stolen" my nickname ^^
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #111215 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111215
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #111216 in rdiff-backup (main) "[apport]  rdiff-backup crashed with IOError in copyfileobj()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111216
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #111217 in matplotlib (universe) "not publication quality???" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111217
[01:24] <thekorn> dholbach: I added a new version of safe_urlopen to the developing branch (bug 90654). IMO this version should be close to be merged into main, but needs some testing
[01:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 90654 in python-launchpad-bugs "learn to deal with Launchpad being down/inaccessible/timing out" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90654
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #111218 in amarok (main) "[apport]  amarokapp crashed with SIGSEGV in operator>>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111218
[01:37] <dholbach> thekorn: I'll check it out
[01:46] <dholbach> thekorn: you need to merge the change of Hilario and I'd rename the attempt variable to attempts, but apart from that it looks good
[01:46] <dholbach> thekorn: I'm happy for you to merge it in, so we can get it tested
[01:46] <dholbach> thekorn: good work
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #111219 in audacity (universe) "audacity should be compiled with gtk2 instead of gtk1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111219
[01:58] <crimsun> arg, not that bug _again_
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #111220 in packagesearch (universe) "[apport]  packagesearch crashed with SIGSEGV in pkgDepCache::Init()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111220
[02:11] <ubotu> New bug: #111221 in scapy (universe) "scapy FTBFS in Gutsy due to hard coded Python 2.4 paths" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111221
[02:11] <ubotu> New bug: #111222 in azureus (universe) "new azureus package <IP_ADDRESS>" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111222
[02:13] <seb128> jwendell: hi
[02:15] <seb128> jwendell: the upstream change to fix bug #8422 seems to not work correctly
[02:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 8422 in tsclient "Error message on ending VNC session" [Medium,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8422
[02:16] <seb128> could be an rdesktop bug though
[02:16] <ubotu> New bug: #111223 in aiccu (universe) "Does not kill daemon on package removal" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111223
[02:16] <seb128> it returns 256 when closing the window
[02:20] <jwendell> seb128, yes, it's a rdesktop bug, which it returns a non-zero value
[02:21] <seb128> do you know if there is a patch for it somewhere?
[02:21] <jwendell> seb128, btw, i'm working on a new version well integrated to GNOME, with some luck it will become part of vino
[02:22] <seb128> cool
[02:22] <jwendell> seb128, nope
[02:22] <seb128> hum, k :/
[02:24] <tcr> So what's the prefered way to make a suggestion for a version bump of a package? Should I just file in a regular bug in launchpad?
[02:25] <seb128> do nothing
[02:25] <seb128> and wait than somebody updates
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #111224 in kdesdk (main) "KBabel debian package (deb) doesnt have Gettext as it requirement" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111224
[02:25] <seb128> gusty has just open, let some time for new version to catch up before opening bugs
[02:25] <seb128> otherwise yes a wishlist bug is the right way
[02:29] <tcr> I'm sorry, I didn't quite understand you. Did you mean that one should wait until new upstream versions of packages show that they're not b0rked in any stupid way?
[02:30] <seb128> what software do you want to get update?
[02:30] <seb128> I mean that versions where frozen for some week in feisty now
[02:30] <seb128> gutsy is just open
[02:30] <seb128> new upstream versions will be uploaded for many packages or synced from Debian
[02:31] <seb128> and what is "b0rked in any stupid way"?
[02:32] <tcr> broken because of recent changes
[02:32] <thekorn> dholbach: thanks for looking at the changes in safe.url.open, I merged them into main
[02:33] <dholbach> thekorn: thanks a lot
[02:33] <seb128> tcr: you are not clear, you can open a bug on the package, try to describe what your problem is though
[02:33] <tcr> How am I not clear?
[02:34] <seb128> tcr: you speak first of a version bump, which means a new version
[02:34] <seb128> tcr: and now you speak about some bug
[02:34] <seb128> we will not update a stable package to a new version
[02:34] <ogra> "some package" ... "b0rked in any stupid way" ... :) very clear :)
[02:34] <tcr> seb128: I'm not; please read what I wrote. I was guessing on what you were trying to tell me. :)
 So what's the prefered way to make a suggestion for a version bump of a package?
[02:35] <seb128> you request a new version to be packaged?
[02:35] <seb128> new version of what?
[02:35] <tcr> Exactly; you told me that a wishlist bug is the way to go, but introduced some additional restrictions I wanted to get more information on.
[02:35] <tcr> haskell-mode
[02:35] <seb128> open the bug
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #111225 in Ubuntu "libgtkglextmm missing in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111225
[02:35] <seb128> we will deal with it
[02:36] <seb128> we will not update the stable package to a new version though
[02:36] <tcr> Fine with me.
[02:36] <seb128> there is no restriction
[02:37] <seb128> just trying to avoid a zillion of bugs "new crack is available since yesterday midnight, it's 6am and it's not packaged yet, how come" ;)
[02:37] <tcr> Indeed, and that's exactly the reason what I was talking about.
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #111226 in haskell-mode (universe) "New upstream version 2.3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111226
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #111228 in vbetool (main) "vbetool crashed on login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111228
[02:56] <ubotu> New bug: #111227 in Ubuntu "NFS-root support indirectly broken in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111227
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #111229 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in XPending()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111229
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #111230 in compiz-extra (universe) "[feisty]  some plugins are not installed by this package, even marked as present." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111230
[03:01] <persia> I just closed totem, and my theme changed.  Any suggestions on how to generate enough information to file a bug?
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #111231 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Sending an attachment with a " or " in the filename does not work!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111231
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #111232 in beryl-core (universe) "Missing Icons in taskbar when Beryl is used..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111232
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #111233 in amarok (main) "[apport]  amarokapp crashed with SIGSEGV in operator>>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111233
[03:11] <ubotu> New bug: #111234 in blender (universe) "[apport]  blender-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in PyBool_Type()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111234
[03:11] <ubotu> New bug: #111235 in Ubuntu "To maximize Windows" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111235
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #111236 in kde4libs (universe) "[apport]  klauncher crashed with SIGSEGV in QString::isEmpty()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111236
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #111237 in xserver-xgl (universe) "xserver-xgl doesn't fully support compiz" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111237
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #111238 in imagemagick (main) "Grammatical error in Keyboard Message Dialog" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111238
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #111240 in initramfs-tools (main) "Errors output when no firmware is installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111240
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #111242 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111242
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #111243 in gnome-screensaver (main) "screensaver lock: keyboard layout (language) not displayed properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111243
[03:45] <persia> TheMuso: Do you have a special attachment to sooperlooper?  I'd like to process the merge whilst working on my plan to abolish wxwindows2.4.
[03:46] <persia> -ECHANNEL
[03:55] <ubotu> New bug: #111244 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111244
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #111245 in python-sqlite (main) "Please merge python-sqlite 1.0.1-6 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111245
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #111246 in totem (main) "[apport]  totem crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111246
[04:15] <deniz_ogut> Couraged by the Ubuntu Open Week's related sessions, I want to be closer with launchpad bugs and bug triaging. May I ask a question? (related with an actual situation)
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #111247 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111247
[04:15] <Hobbsee> deniz_ogut: of course
[04:15] <Hobbsee> deniz_ogut: no idea if anyone will be able to answer, though :)
[04:16] <deniz_ogut> ok asking (may take some time to write)
[04:16] <Hobbsee> :)
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #111248 in beryl-core (universe) "unexpected mulfunction of beryl manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111248
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #111249 in lyx (universe) "Please sync lyx (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111249
[04:32] <deniz_ogut> There is Bug #99927. Confirmed. It has 4 duplicates. Bug #85077, Bug #91849, Bug #97491, Bug #105722. #105722 and #97491  are still "needs info" although it is a duplicate of 99927 which is confirmed. What's more, #99927's one duplicate out of four, #91849 is confirmed and asigned to upstream. Now, if someone starts from 105722, he seems it to be non-confirmed, if he refers to its duplicate 99927 he will see that its confirmed and has 4 duplicates
[04:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 99927 in xfce4-terminal "xfce terminal crashes and returns me to login screen" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/99927
[04:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 85077 in xfce4-terminal "[apport]  xfce4-terminal crashed with SIGSEGV in XRenderFillRectangle() (dup-of: 99927)" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85077
[04:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 91849 in xfce4-terminal "i810 + xorg = xfce crashes when opening terminal (dup-of: 99927)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/91849
[04:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 97491 in Ubuntu "xfce4-terminal crashes or freezes xorg (dup-of: 99927)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97491
[04:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 105722 in xfce4-terminal "Xfce4 terminal crash, starting xfce4 from kdm. (dup-of: 99927)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105722
[04:33] <WhackJob> Good Reading: http://apcmag.com/5981/hands_on_with_ubuntu_7_04_part_1
[04:33] <persia> deniz_ogut: Generally, it's assumed that the "master" bug status is correct, and the duplicates are likely to be out of date.  The duplicates are generally hidden from searches (except perhaps during bug reporting).
[04:34] <deniz_ogut> but here the assigned to the upstream one seems to be not the master one.
[04:35] <deniz_ogut> all others refer to one master and it doesnt say assined and it says in some other which is assined to it.
[04:35] <Hobbsee> then the upstream link should be added to the master bug - which the person should have done when marking the dupes
[04:36] <deniz_ogut> *assined to it: linked to it.
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #111250 in arts (main) "deamon crashed when X was restarted." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111250
[04:36] <deniz_ogut> sholud i do it then?
[04:37] <Hobbsee> yes please :)
[04:37] <deniz_ogut> ok. thanks for answering.
[04:38] <persia> deniz_ogut: Ah.  There are two options, depending on your involvement with xfce.  You might want to unmark 91849 as a dup, and then dup 99927 to 91849.  IUf you have xfce access, it's easier to update 99927 to point to upstream, and modify the upstream bug to point to 99927 (but I type slow)
[04:39] <deniz_ogut> persia: no problem.  both type and understand slow. I need to deal with what you write! :-)
[04:41] <persia> Hobbsee: The upstream bug points back to LP.  Shouldn't upstream be directed to the master?
[04:41] <Hobbsee> persia: would help.  but the LP points to the master too
[04:42] <deniz_ogut> persia: I got it! That's very smart. 99927 and also the other two to 91849. 91849 will be the master. did I get right?
[04:43] <persia> deniz_ogut: If I remember correctly, you only have to adjust 91849 and 99927: the other duplicates should automatically be reparented.
[04:44] <deniz_ogut> persia: thanks a lot. i will do so. thanks.
[04:46] <ScottK> persia/deniz_ogut I think the only way to reparent multiples like that is via the e-mail interface.  I think bdmurray did a wiki page on that the other day.
[04:46] <Hobbsee> ScottK: er, what?
[04:46] <Hobbsee> ScottK: as in, unmark and mark as dupes?
[04:46] <ScottK> Yes
[04:46] <persia> ScottK: There was talk in January about merges.  Did that not get applied in the recent launchpad release?
[04:47] <Hobbsee> ScottK: you can do that via web...hit hte "mark as duplicate" button
[04:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 111221 in scapy "scapy FTBFS in Gutsy due to hard coded Python 2.4 paths" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111221
[04:47] <ScottK> Hobbsee: If that bug has dupes, then it will error out.
[04:48] <Hobbsee> ah yes, so you hve to move the dupes to be dupes of the master bug
[04:48] <ScottK> Right
[04:48] <Hobbsee> which you can also do via the web interface - if you go into the dupe first
[04:48] <persia> ScottK: I don't remember any issues when I was consolidating 13350.  Are you sure?
[04:48] <ScottK> Maybe they fixed it since I tried last.
[04:49] <persia> ScottK: When did you try (I've been away, so I miss things).
[04:49] <deniz_ogut> Dear friends. I am not a technicam person and I don't want to do something wrong. So the best way is to leave those bugs I mentioned as they are. Isn't it? Or you tell me "do this way" I'll do so.
[04:49] <deniz_ogut> *technical
[04:49] <ScottK> deniz_ogut: Go ahead and do it.
[04:49] <deniz_ogut> as who said?
[04:49] <Hobbsee> ScottK: it's been working that way for a long while...it's just odd.
[04:49] <persia> deniz_ogut: You can try what I suggested.  Based on ScottK's comments, it might not work.  Please let us know either way.
[04:49] <Hobbsee> deniz_ogut: we did :)
[04:49] <ScottK> Hobbsee: When I was in the Navy, we had a saying, "Sleep is for the weak."
[04:49] <Hobbsee> where "we" == some random people in #ubuntu-bugs
[04:49] <deniz_ogut> ok. i will! :-)
[04:49] <Hobbsee> ScottK: true that.
[04:50] <persia> deniz_ogut: The bug with the link to upstream should be the master bug.
[04:50] <deniz_ogut> ok. actually this is the easiest way for me to do.
[04:52] <ScottK> Hobbsee: Here's the page I was thinking of: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Diaries/bdmurray
[04:52] <Hobbsee> ScottK: that's seriously cool...
[04:53] <ScottK> Yeah.
[04:53] <persia> ScottK: That's just a way to make things faster for seious bugsquadders.  The web interface didn't go away.
[04:53] <dholbach> bugsquad diareis!
[04:53] <ScottK> Yes.
[04:53] <dholbach> diaries :)
[04:53] <ScottK> persia: Agreed.
[04:54] <dholbach> (you can also use   bughelper -T  and don't need to write a clue file for a search - though it's good if you share it)
[04:55] <cburg> hmm for bug 109835 I am trying to figure out, should I ask them to attach the .xsession-errors file for the specific user that is experiencing the problem or am I completely off on this line of thought. I'm kind of making things up as I go.
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #111252 in command-not-found (main) "missing programs in database" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111252
[04:55] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 109835 in Ubuntu "windows applet says window manager "unknown"" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109835
[04:58] <ScottK> cburg: I'd suggest NEVER just ask for .xsessions-errors as it can be huge.
[04:59] <cburg> hah ok
[04:59] <ScottK> If you think that's where you need to go, I'd suggest asking them to start the program from the command line and give you the command line output.
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #111254 in mythtv (multiverse) "MythTV is either debug or it isn't - make a decision!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111254
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #111255 in command-not-found (main) "bad behaviour according to PATH variable value in a particular case" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111255
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #111256 in nautilus (main) "total lag of nautilus window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111256
[05:06] <deniz_ogut> persia: First I cleaned the area from bug report #91849 where said 91849 is a duplicate of 99927. And went to 99927 to mark it as a duplicate of 91849 but the error stated that: " There are other bugs already marked as duplicates of Bug 99927. These bugs should be changed to be duplicates of another bug if you are certain you would like to perform this change." What to do now?
[05:08] <persia> deniz_ogut: Grumble.  My memory was not correct, or something changed.  You'll have to manually mark all the duplicates of 99927 as duplicates of 91849.  As mentioned previously, bughelper or email would make this easier, but the web pages also work.  My apologies for the confusion.
[05:08] <ScottK> deniz_ogut: This is what we were discussing earlier.  You will have to undup the others one by one and dupe them to the correct master.
[05:09] <deniz_ogut> i will do so. but is this something , a kind of bug relater with LP?
[05:09] <deniz_ogut> *related
[05:09] <ScottK> LP is still a work in progress.  This is something they intend to change in the future.  For now it's more work than is ideal, but it works.
[05:10] <deniz_ogut> anyway, you developers know the best, now let me link those 4 bugs to the main one. thanks a lot.
[05:11] <persia> deniz_ogut: I just checked, and you don't actually have to updup.  Just visit all the dup pages (e.g. 97491), choose "Mark as duplicate", and change from 99927 to 91849.
[05:13] <ScottK> Yes.  Sorry.  redupe would have been better to say than undupe.  My bad.
[05:15] <persia> It appears that bug #78596 isn't fixed yet, although bug #52613 is interesting, and may improve things in the future.
[05:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 78596 in malone "Automatically handle moving duplicates across when duplicating a bug with dupes" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78596
[05:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 52613 in malone ""Duplicate" system is conceptually erroneous" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/52613
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #111258 in beryl-core (universe) "beryl manager crashes while booting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111258
[05:22] <deniz_ogut> persia: I manuelly linked all four to 91849 which is confirmed and assigned. I'm in progress. :-) Thanks.
[05:23] <persia> deniz_ogut: No, thank you for helping organise the bugs to be easy for upstream.
[05:26] <ubotu> New bug: #111257 in Ubuntu "totem crashes with 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)' when using compiz and xserver-xorg-video-intel driver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111257
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #111260 in firefox (main) "Firefox does not restart when closed and reopened immediately" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111260
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #111261 in gnome-terminal (main) "Ubuntu not recognize pendrivers or HDs via USB" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111261
[05:38] <habeeb_> Mithrandir: Hey... Yesterday, you said that it doesn't matter if that guy has 12 tabs open in X-chat. Is that true? I mean, the number of tabs doesn't affect the performance of that application?
[05:39] <habeeb_> brb.
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #111263 in Ubuntu "MiKTeX Tools for Unix-alikes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111263
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #111264 in gedit (main) "auto completeuion for Gedit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111264
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #111265 in Ubuntu "ubuntu crashes " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111265
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #111266 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "r818x locks system when SMP kernel is used (-generic)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111266
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #111267 in python2.4 (main) "Installed version is 2.4.4c1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111267
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #111268 in gnome-desktop (main) "Feature Request: Diferent Wallpapers per Workspace" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111268
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #111269 in Ubuntu "[apport]  raki crashed with SIGSEGV when i syncronize with windows mobile 2003" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111269
[06:03] <Mithrandir> habeeb: I said it shouldn't matter, not that it didn't
[06:03] <habeeb> Mithrandir: I see.
[06:05] <maini10> Hello, I have a question about bugs in KDE 3.5.6 packages in Kubuntu 6.10
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #111270 in wine (universe) "[Gutsy]  Wine 0.9.36 Released April 27, 2007" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111270
[06:06] <maini10> bug triage of this packages is the same of the others or they are not supported?
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #111271 in edubuntu-docs (main) "Spelling mistakes in file edubuntu/handbook/C/server.xml" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111271
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #111272 in f-spot (main) "F-Spot cannot export to Gallery2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111272
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #111273 in ekiga (main) "Ekiga needs Codec G.711, G.726 and G.729 for sparvoip.de (voipbuster.com)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111273
[06:22] <bddebian> Boo
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #111274 in network-manager (main) "Network Manager won't connect" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111274
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #111276 in xsane (main) "[apport]  xsane crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111276
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #111277 in firefox (main) "Download fails on pausing the download" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111277
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #110622 in command-not-found "Reports incorrect information when command not in path" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/110622
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #111278 in xpdf (universe) "xpdf crashes when scrolling a potentially illegal PDF" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111278
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #111279 in evolution-exchange (main) "[apport]  evolution-exchange-storage crashed with SIGSEGV in g_hash_table_foreach()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111279
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #111280 in epiphany-browser (main) "Epiphany should depend on libxul instead of Firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111280
[07:14] <ubotu> New bug: #111282 in acpi (main) "wired ethernet not available on resume from sleep" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111282
[07:14] <ubotu> New bug: #111283 in wengophone (universe) "[apport]  qtwengophone crashed with SIGSEGV in IMAccountHandlerXMLSerializer::serialize()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111283
[07:14] <ubotu> New bug: #111284 in firefox (main) "crash with "save file location" dialogue box open" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111284
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #111287 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in eventLoop()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111287
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #111290 in totem (main) "Totem crashes as I attempt to play an OGM file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111290
[07:57] <mmmbreakfast> I can reproduce bug 84158, which amounts to out-of-the-box video corruption in Feisty release for users with some ATI chipsets.
[07:57] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 84158 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "Corrupt screen when switching resolution" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/84158
[07:58] <bdmurray> mmmbreakfast: in which case you could confirm
[07:58] <mmmbreakfast> will do - very new at this - thanks
[07:59] <bdmurray> mmmbreakfast: no problem, I'm here to help
[08:00] <ubotu> New bug: #111292 in Ubuntu "Midi should always work!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111292
[08:00] <ubotu> New bug: #111293 in bitmap-mule (universe) "Please sync bitmap-mule (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111293
[08:04] <ubotu> New bug: #111285 in rhythmbox (main) "Automatic playlist: Does not jump to playing song when last song was removed from playlist" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111285
[08:07] <ubotu> New bug: #111286 in nautilus (main) "Freezes upon accessing a specific directory" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111286
[08:07] <ubotu> New bug: #111294 in evolution (main) "[apport]  evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111294
[08:07] <ucap> quick question: is it good practice to confirm apport bugs that have been retraced?
[08:09] <bdmurray> ucap: if the retrace has useful information in it.  what bug are you looking at?
[08:09] <ucap> not a specific one. what do you mean by "useful" information?
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #111297 in Ubuntu "No audio at all - randomly works for no reason then goes again" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111297
[08:11] <bdmurray> ucap: sometimes you'll see retraced bugs that say something like "StackTraceTop: ()?" - which isn't that useful
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #111295 in biblememorizer (universe) "Please sync biblememorizer (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111295
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #111296 in Ubuntu "[Feisty]  Gparted causes crash of X" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111296
[08:13] <ucap> bdmurray, yes I remember coming across some of those. so I'll leave those untouched. thanks!
[08:14] <bdmurray> ucap: cool, thanks
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #111298 in edubuntu-docs (main) "Spelling mistakes in file edubuntu/handbook/C/introduction.xml" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111298
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #111299 in Ubuntu "/usr/bin/X leaks memory with firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111299
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #111300 in openafs (universe) "openafs-modules-1.4.4 fails to build on Sparc64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111300
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #111301 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "PVR-500 second tuner error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111301
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #111302 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111302
[08:36] <ubotu> New bug: #111304 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111304
[08:38] <ubotu> New bug: #111281 in amavisd-new (universe) "[apport]  package amavisd-new failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111281
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #111306 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in XPending()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111306
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #111307 in Ubuntu "builtin GNOME disk writing software uses speeds not appropriate for media" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111307
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #111308 in openoffice.org (main) "keyboard shortcuts for underline text doesn't work properly (DE locale)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111308
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #111311 in language-selector (main) "Unable to turn off complex character input in Language Support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111311
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #111312 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "[apport]  mozilla-thunderbird-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111312
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #111313 in libgksu (main) "Error in libgksu Norwegian translation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111313
[09:43] <Admiral_Chicago> \o/
[09:43] <Admiral_Chicago> finally updated my diary.
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #111314 in lastfm (universe) "[apport]  lastfm crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111314
[09:51] <bdmurray> Admiral_Chicago: diary?
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #111315 in Ubuntu "windows appear black when several applications are working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111315
[09:51] <Admiral_Chicago> oops dairy
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> wait
[09:52] <Kmos> bdmurray: you can update opera to version 9.2 on canonical archive ?
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Diaries/fmartinez
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> that think
[09:52] <crimsun> diary.
[09:52] <crimsun> dairy is moo cow.
[09:52] <Kmos> bug 105859
[09:52] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 105859 in app-install-data-commercial "Opera 9.2 is out with many bug fixes" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105859
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> thing* thanks daniel. can't spell today i think.
[09:53] <bdmurray> crimsun: I have a question about using multiple sound cards if you have a moment
[09:53] <crimsun> bdmurray: shoot.
[09:54] <bdmurray> crimsun: I wanted to use one soundcard for speakers and one for headphones.  Is that possible?  If so where would be a good place to read about setting it up.
[09:55] <crimsun> bdmurray: yes. I recommend you use pulseaudio with pavucontrol.
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #111316 in anjuta (universe) "anjuta crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111316
[09:56] <crimsun> bdmurray: in short, install pulseaudio (in main), libasound2-plugins (in main), pulseaudio-esound-compat (in main), and pavucontrol (in universe)
[09:56] <crimsun> bdmurray: execute ``asoundconf set-pulseaudio''
[09:57] <crimsun> bdmurray: connect speakers to one card and headphones to another
[09:58] <crimsun> bdmurray: use Applications> Sound & Video> PulseAudio Volume Control   -> Streams -> secondary-click -> Move Stream
[09:59] <crimsun> that's essentially the configuration that I use.
[09:59] <bdmurray> crimsun: neat, I'll give that a try.  thanks!
[09:59] <crimsun> np
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #111317 in Ubuntu "OOffice crash with doc files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111317
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #111318 in Ubuntu "Simple backup stopped working after upgrade to Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111318
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #111319 in totem (main) "Resizing a totem window causes _NET_WM_MOVERESIZE window manager warnings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111319
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #111320 in Ubuntu "Canon iP4000 does not print in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111320
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #111321 in Ubuntu "Gnome Panels and applets seem to Jump around" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111321
[10:25] <umarmung> Hi
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #111322 in pilot-manager (universe) "Can't find PDA/Pilot.pm after upgrade to feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111322
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #111323 in gnumeric (main) "inserting a row changes unrelated formulas" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111323
[10:28] <bdmurray> hello umarmung
[10:29] <umarmung> Bug 111324 is not completely a dupe of bug 51043. However the upstream bug from 51043 is. So should i mark it as dupe or not. :)
[10:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 111324 in Ubuntu "unable to use some actions in gnome file manager with list view" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111324
[10:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 51043 in nautilus ""rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/51043
[10:32] <bdmurray> umarmung: Yes, I would think so
[10:33] <umarmung> Pardon. Does that mean mark it as bug or not?
[10:35] <bdmurray> yes, it means mark it as a duplicate
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #111324 in Ubuntu "unable to use some actions in gnome file manager with list view (dup-of: 51043)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111324
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #111326 in totem (main) "Totem often returns: "internal data flow error" movies play good with VLC" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111326
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #111327 in openoffice.org (main) "export to pdf in oo2.2 writer not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111327
[10:36] <umarmung> thank you. done.
[10:37] <bdmurray> thanks for helping out
[10:44] <wattazoum> hello there
[10:44] <wattazoum> I got a question, I have never noticed a link that I have now on launchpad (offer mentorship ) . what is that ?
[10:45] <cburg_> It's new.
[10:45] <wattazoum> ahh, oki
[10:45] <wattazoum> so even a new bugsquad member can mentor someone ?
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #111328 in gcompris (main) "gcompris crashes using Tuxpaint" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111328
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #111329 in Ubuntu "Acer Aspire 5610 hotkeys don't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111329
[10:47] <roh> is there a qa for testing/hunting down bugs with specific mainstream notebooks?
[10:48] <roh> as in 'some channel' or a specific category in launchpad
[10:49] <bdmurray> roh: not particularly
[10:50] <roh> i have some really worrying problems on this new t60 here which i think somebody should try to cross-check
[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #111330 in Ubuntu "Intel 82801G Sound problem on toshiba tecra laptop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111330
[10:51] <roh> propably acpi/firmware related. it shredders my rootfs when bootet without the psu connected and crys about NMI and uhci controllers dying without reason
[10:53] <bdmurray> roh: that would be something for the kernel team probably then
[10:53] <roh> where can i find them?
[10:54] <bdmurray> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies has some information
[10:55] <roh> irgh... need to write that down. i'm on 80x25 atm due to the second time it killed the fs
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #111331 in aria (universe) "Please sync aria (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111331
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #111332 in compiz (main) "Feature Request: Set Workspace for defined Apps" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111332
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #111334 in control-center (main) "Theme thumbnail in Gnome Theme Properties uses wrong colors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111334
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #111335 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in XPending()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111335
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #111336 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "[apport]  mozilla-thunderbird crashed with SIGSEGV in wait4()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111336
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #111337 in openoffice.org (main) "Paste only accessible through keyboard shortcuts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111337
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #111339 in firefox (main) "Middle-Click does not scroll web site in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111339
[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #111340 in udev (main) "pontis does not get mounted anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111340
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #111342 in firefox (main) "closing when switching away using alt-tab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111342
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #111343 in compiz (main) "Graphical corruption with firefox's autoscroll and compiz" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111343
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #111344 in arts (main) "artsd crashes on restart of X-server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111344


[00:00] <dOxxx> when you make a new commit, you're adding a connection from the current revision to the new commit
[00:00] <dOxxx> and then the branch's tip pointer is updated to point at the new commit
[00:01] <dOxxx> note that the revision checked out in the working tree is not necessarily the same as the branch tip
[00:01] <gwal> but with bzr update I jump to the tip?
[00:01] <dOxxx> yes
[00:01] <dOxxx> that updates the working tree to the same state as the tip revision
[00:02] <dOxxx> conversely, bzr update -rN will update the working tree to the state at revision N
[00:02] <gwal> so my tip revision is revision 5 which is in the repository at the remote location indicated with sftp://
[00:02] <dOxxx> and in the case of the push you did earlier, it add new revisions but couldn't do the equivalent of `bzr update`
[00:02] <dOxxx> yes
[00:03] <gwal> I use the remote location exclusively as a repository ... and I just did a bzr pull on this sftp:// location from a different computer which gave me the latest revision (5)
[00:05] <gwal> I think I remember why I can't use bzr+ssh: the remote location doesn't have bzr installed
[00:05] <dOxxx> ah yeah
[00:06] <dOxxx> that does make things a little harder
[00:06] <gwal> everything seems to be there though .. in the remote sftp:// location and my current pull of revision 5
[00:08] <dOxxx> if you don't need the working tree in the remote location, you could try `bzr reconfigure --branch sftp://...` to get rid of the working tree
[00:09] <gwal> what does it mean to get rid of the working tree?
[00:10] <dOxxx> it means there is no checkout of the latest revision, it's just the .bzr directory with the revision data
[00:11] <dOxxx> I'm not sure if the reconfigure will work over sfpt though
[00:11] <dOxxx> sftp*
[00:11] <gwal> ok ... hang on
[00:12] <gwal> no .. it complains that sftp://location/.bzr/ is not a local path
[00:12] <dOxxx> yeah I guess it can't do it remotely
[00:12] <dOxxx> you'd need bzr on the remote machine to do it
[00:13] <gwal> yea I understand ... not sure I can get bzr on there though
[00:13] <gwal> but in itself this isn't inherently bad is it?
[00:13] <dOxxx> no, you'll just get the warning every time you push
[00:13] <gwal> ok, I can live with that
[00:14] <gwal> thanks so much for helping me with this! guess it all just boiled down to my local box holding on to its lock on the remote repository
[00:14] <dOxxx> yah
[00:14] <dOxxx> the rspush may not have released it properly when it encounted the divergent branches
[00:14] <dOxxx> encountered*
[00:15] <gwal> yea might be that
[00:15] <dOxxx> any particular reason you were using rspush instead of push?
[00:15] <gwal> as far as I understand, push doesn't transfer my local files to the remote location?
[00:16] <dOxxx> err...
[00:16] <gwal> not true?
[00:16] <dOxxx> what exactly do you mean by "my local files" ?
[00:17] <gwal> by that I mean, I bzr add something.c locally, bzr ci this change and when I do a bzr push it doesn't seem to copy those files over to the sftp:// location
[00:18] <gwal> sorry, I'm new to bzr so this may sound stupid
[00:18] <dOxxx> that's because it can't update the working tree over sftp
[00:18] <gwal> ah
[00:18] <dOxxx> the revision with that change has been pushed
[00:18] <dOxxx> I'm guessing rspush was able to do it though?
[00:18] <gwal> yes it was
[00:18] <dOxxx> interesting
[00:19] <gwal> ok I see your point, usually bzr push to a bzr+ssh location would do a remote bzr update after my local bzr push?
[00:19] <dOxxx> yeah
[00:19] <dOxxx> because it can run bzr on the remote machine
[00:19] <gwal> yea ok, that makes sense now
[00:19] <dOxxx> or at least I believe that's what it does :)
[00:20] <gwal> well it would make sense at any rate ;)
[00:20] <dOxxx> I usually use tree-less remote repos
[00:20] <dOxxx> since I don't need the working tree on the remote machine, just want to store the revision data
[00:20] <gwal> so essentially the kind I'm trying to use on my box that has no bzr installed?
[00:21] <gwal> that's exactly what I want. how do you go about this yourself?
[00:21] <gwal> what I do is bzr init local_dir and then bzr rspush local_dir sftp://location
[00:21] <gwal> (after a bzr ci)
[00:21] <dOxxx> I use launchpad primarily so it sets that up automatically but I think if you did `bzr pusg --no-tree remote-loc` for the initial push it would create a tree-less repo
[00:22] <dOxxx> push*
[00:22] <gwal> oh ok, I'll need to try that
[00:23] <dOxxx> ah the help for bzr push says:
[00:23] <dOxxx> The target branch will not have its working tree populated because this
[00:23] <dOxxx>   is both expensive, and is not supported on remote file systems.
[00:23] <dOxxx>
[00:23] <dOxxx>   Some smart servers or protocols *may* put the working tree in place in
[00:23] <dOxxx>   the future.
[00:23] <dOxxx> I think "remote file systems" means protocols like sftp
[00:24] <dOxxx> so I'm guessing rspush created the working tree initially
[00:24] <dOxxx> anyway, sounds like you're sorted out?
[00:24] <gwal> yea it must've ...
[00:25] <gwal> yea man I think I am. I'll look into the --no-tree option although my current bzr version doesn't seem to know this option
[00:25] <dOxxx> ah :P
[00:25] <gwal> maybe I'll need to update my bzr version
[00:26] <dOxxx> you may not even need that option
[00:26] <dOxxx> if use push as the first command to create the remote repo
[00:28] <gwal> good call ... I'll give that a shot. when I read the help last time around (what you pasted above) I read the line about the working tree not being populated as meaning that my files won't get transferred
[00:28] <gwal> thanks to you though I kind of understand what that means now ... so will try push from now on as initial push
[00:28] <dOxxx> glad to help
[00:29] <gwal> thanks again and take care
[00:29] <dOxxx> cheers :)
[03:07] <Noldorin> hey fokls
[03:07] <Noldorin> i'm trying to push a branch to my FTP server...
[03:08] <Noldorin> i uncommitted locally than made a few more commits
[03:08] <Noldorin> but it says there are no new revisions to push when i try to push it from locally to the server!
[03:08] <Noldorin> even when i do --overwrite it still says this
[03:08] <Noldorin> very weird
[03:08] <Noldorin> any thoughts?
[12:41] <LarstiQ> Noldorin: are you pushing to the right location?
[23:44] <trebor_home> hi. i am new to bzr (cvs-user). are there texinfo files to download for 2.1.x (debian)?
[23:59] <jelmer> trebor_home: I'm pretty sure we don't have any info files in the debian package


[20:56] <Tumie> tyche: what means 'governance' ?
[20:56] <Tumie> in uwn120,, story about jono bacon
[20:57] <Tumie> boredandblogging: if you know it, you can say it :)
[21:04] <Tumie> already have it,, thanks


[00:51] <roaksoax> bigjools: the fix is in the queue (still) I nagged but it was hold due to some other non-verified bugs
[00:51] <roaksoax> but they were verified
[00:51] <roaksoax> so they are in the queue again ready to be released
[00:51] <roaksoax> so just waiting on that
[00:53] <bigjools> roaksoax: ok ta.  also yui and raphael?
[00:53] <roaksoax> bigjools: so we will be shipping raphael+yui with MAAS it seems
[00:54] <bigjools> eugh
[00:54] <roaksoax> bigjools: that's what I think
[00:54] <bigjools> I thought techboard wanted them separate?
[00:55] <roaksoax> bigjools: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2013-January/001468.html
[00:55] <roaksoax> bigjools: i think I agree... even though I wanted it separated at first, its really gonna cause us less headaches
[00:58] <bigjools> ok cool
[00:59] <roaksoax> bigjools: i'll update the mpackaging tomorrow
[01:00] <bigjools> it'll be SO nice to see this puppy finally get SRUed
[01:00] <bigjools> we're going to need some upgrade instructions
[01:00] <bigjools> since it won't work out the box
[01:01] <roaksoax> bigjools: it should work out of the box
[01:01] <roaksoax> ubt just changing a couple of things
[01:01] <bigjools> roaksoax: it won't
[01:01] <bigjools> unless you don't expect your dhcp to be managed
[01:01] <roaksoax> bigjools: iah in dns/dhcp managed dns
[01:02] <bigjools> International Association of Hydrogeologists?
[01:02] <roaksoax> err i mean when there's DNS/DHCP manged by maas
[01:02] <roaksoax> but when there isn't
[01:02] <roaksoax> then
[01:03] <roaksoax> it should be pretty straightforward
[01:03] <bigjools> right
[01:03] <roaksoax> anyways i'll be playing with that puppy on monday at HP
[01:03] <roaksoax> so i need to get that packaging updated
[01:04] <roaksoax> err
[02:01] <arbit30719> can some body help me solve juju and MAAS problem : I have also posted on ask ubuntu  http://askubuntu.com/questions/249350/juju-cannot-deploy-services-with-maas
[02:02] <bigjools> sarnold: is anything usefil in the debug log?
[02:02] <bigjools> useful*
[02:02] <bigjools> urgh
[02:02] <bigjools> arbit30719: ^
[02:03] <arbit30719>
[02:03] <bigjools> it sounds like something went wrong with cloud init
[02:03] <arbit30719> uh I can show you the not-started juju log
[02:04] <bigjools> juju debug-log
[02:04] <bigjools> iirc
[02:05] <arbit30719> twisted@ERROR: Unhandled error in Deferred:
[02:05] <arbit30719> in /var/log/juju/machine-agen.log
[02:05] <bigjools> failing that, can you see anything on the console of machine 1
[02:05] <arbit30719> Traceback (most recent call last):
[02:05] <arbit30719>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 1181, in unwindGenerator
[02:05] <arbit30719>     return _inlineCallbacks(None, gen, Deferred())
[02:05] <arbit30719>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 1039, in _inlineCallbacks
[02:05] <arbit30719>     result = g.send(result)
[02:05] <arbit30719>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/juju/agents/base.py", line 238, in startService
[02:05] <arbit30719>     yield self.connect()
[02:05] <arbit30719>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 1181, in unwindGenerator
[02:05] <arbit30719>     return _inlineCallbacks(None, gen, Deferred())
[02:05] <arbit30719> --- <exception caught here> ---
[02:05] <arbit30719>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 1039, in _inlineCallbacks
[02:05] <bigjools> please don't paste in here
[02:05] <arbit30719>     result = g.send(result)
[02:05] <arbit30719>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/juju/agents/base.py", line 208, in connect
[02:05] <arbit30719>     self.config["zookeeper_servers"])
[02:05] <arbit30719>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/txzookeeper/retry.py", line 302, in connect
[02:05] <arbit30719>     return self.client.connect(*args, **kw)
[02:05] <arbit30719>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/txzookeeper/client.py", line 468, in connect
[02:05] <arbit30719>     self._servers, callback, self._session_timeout)
[02:05] <arbit30719> zookeeper.ZooKeeperException: Could not internally obtain zookeeper handle
[02:05] <bigjools> ARGH
[02:05] <arbit30719> ok
[02:05] <arbit30719> sorry about tha
[02:06] <bigjools> is its bios clock within 10 minutes of reality?
[02:07] <arbit30719> I use command 'date'
[02:07] <bigjools> you obviously have everything set up ok since the bootstrap node installs, so I suspect the clock on machine 1 is out of whack
[02:07] <bigjools> (this is fixed in an upcoming SRU)
[02:07] <arbit30719> it shows Wed Jan 30 21:06:29 EST 2013
[02:08] <arbit30719> But the time zone i am located is +8
[02:08] <bigjools> where are you typing "date" ?
[02:08] <arbit30719> in machine 1
[02:08] <bigjools> how are you logging in to it?
[02:09] <arbit30719> I try to use ssh ubuntu@node-machine1
[02:09] <arbit30719> But fail to use juju ssh 1
[02:09] <bigjools> was that agent log above from machine 1?
[02:10] <arbit30719> yep
[02:10] <bigjools> hmmm I have seen this before, IIRC it's a juju bug.  I can't remember how to get past it....
[02:10] <arbit30719> hmm..
[02:11] <arbit30719> it already pending for 2 days  ha..
[02:11] <bigjools> yeah it'll wait forever :)
[02:11] <bigjools> jump on #juju-dev and let;s see if anyone is around to help
[02:12] <bigjools> arbit30719: add that log to your question on askubuntu
[02:13] <arbit30719> thanks =) if you can remember where you have found it
[02:13] <bigjools> and point someone on the juju channel to it
[02:13] <arbit30719> ok
[02:14] <arbit30719> thanks for your help =)
[02:14] <bigjools> no prob
[02:20] <arbit30719> ha, there seems quite silence
[11:06] <AskUbuntu> Maas problem on Workstation 9 | http://askubuntu.com/q/249758
[23:38] <mattrae> hi guys, i'm using juju + maas. one of the machines was accidently reimaged after a charm was deployed. in order to fix that node, we destroyed the service and terminated the machine. the problem is that the maas web interface still shows the machine as being allocated
[23:38] <mattrae> so juju status no longer shows the machine, but its still allocated in maas.
[23:38] <mattrae> how do i get that machine back to the ready state so I can redeploy the charm?
[23:38] <mattrae> we can delete a node in maas shell to remove nodes stuck in 'commissioning' but we've never tested deleting a node with maas shell that was listed as 'allocated'
[23:38] <mattrae> any suggestions??


[00:00] <sergiusens> popey, any other ideas?
[00:01] <popey> only to revert to previous version
[00:01] <popey> and the upload new
[00:01] <popey> i can revert
[00:01] <sergiusens> doesn't work for me; hope it does for you
[00:01] <popey> oh, it now changed
[00:01] <popey> it says "Ready to publish"
[00:01] <popey> which it didnt before
[00:01] <popey> framework still none so thats no good
[00:02] <popey> yeah, backend is broken
[00:02] <sergiusens> popey, I tried that in a vain attempt; but now I cn't even publish anymore :-/
[00:02] <popey> nothing we can do now
[00:02] <popey> need bueno
[00:03] <sergiusens> yeah, not sure that's going to happen before monday though
[00:03]  * sergiusens sends email
[00:04] <sergiusens> popey, I CCed him, hopefully it reaches and could be solved
[00:04] <sergiusens> I'll be back later to check
[00:05] <popey> ok
[00:05] <sergiusens> rsalveti, to kick; is it just a cdimage kick and the rest is auto from there?
[00:06] <rsalveti> sergiusens: yeah
[00:06] <rsalveti> sergiusens: guess you can do that as well
[00:06] <rsalveti> sergiusens: ssh nusakan.canonical.com
[00:06] <rsalveti> sergiusens: sudo -u cdimage -i
[00:07] <rsalveti> sergiusens: for-project ubuntu-touch cron.daily-preinstalled --live
[00:07] <rsalveti> then the magic happens
[00:07] <rsalveti> and after ~1:30h the image will be available in system-image
[00:07] <rsalveti> well bbl, time to grab some dinner
[00:14] <popey> bed for me
[03:52] <Ursinha> Mirv: hi, I hit a bug while upgrading my system right now, it seems one package is missing a conflicts: bug 1293022
[07:13] <Mirv> Ursinha: seems correct, but I don't have upload rights to that particular package. I assigned it to bzoltan so that it doesn't get lost.
[07:13] <Ursinha> Mirv: okay, thanks
[09:25] <bzoltan> Mirv: https://code.launchpad.net/~bzoltan/qtcreator-plugin-cmake/fix-1293022/+merge/211200
[09:26] <bzoltan> Ursinha:  thanks for the report, the fix is on its way
[09:26] <Ursinha> np, and thanks :)
[15:29] <ogra_> http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-bootcharts/
[15:29] <ogra_> :D


[15:01] <pleia2> I'm in Maine this weekend visiting family, not sure I'll make the meeting this eveing
[20:02] <lynorian> pleia2, I thouhgt it was canceled as memorial day weekend
[22:46] <pleia2> lynorian: could be! I was just going by the /topic :)
[22:47] <pleia2> it wasn't announced either, so