[20:51] <obscurant1st> Well that was for the first statement! :P
[20:51] <FiL> hi I have a tiny problem with my bluetooth. I have installed buez libraries and when I type hcitool scan it returns my phone's bluetooth. But the phone cannot find pc's address
[20:52] <cocolos> can I assume that the empathy notifications being clickable hasn't been implemented?
[20:52] <FiL> I have set DiscoverableTimeout = 0 in /etc/bluetooth/main.conf but again I cannot find pc address from my phone
[20:52] <FiL> any ideas?
[20:53] <naftilos76> hi, does anybody know if totem's youtube plugin works in ubuntu 10.10 or it was abandoned after youtube changed their website in such a way so that the plugin stopped working?
[20:55] <area51pilot> FiL: make it discoverable (PC) longer?
[20:55] <zykotick9> naftilos76: i've seen others with issues with totem and youtube - you might be wasting you time trying???
[20:55] <naftilos76> zykotick9: probably!
[20:55] <FiL> 0 means discoverable forever
[20:55] <Xtreme> ooh man, i hate this. i installed chrome and all urls are opening in chrome
[20:56] <Xtreme> i went to settings and looked at default application
[20:56] <Xtreme> its firefox
[20:56] <FiL> 0 = disable timer, i.e. stay discoverable forever
[20:56] <Xtreme> still chrome is handling urls
[20:56] <Xtreme> why?
[20:56] <zykotick9> Xtreme: if you have an html file try "xdg-open foo.html" vs. "gnome-open foo.html" and see they are different
[20:57] <keyboardquestion> I have ubuntu 10.04 and the keyboard on one of the users locks up. the keyboard works on other users and at the login screen but once I login the letters on the keyboard won't work. the other parts of the keyboard work and the mouse works, but not the letters.
[20:57] <area51pilot> keyboardquestion: did you try swappinig out KB's?  ... just sayin'
[20:58] <Xtreme> that explains chrome
[20:58] <keyboardquestion> area51pilot: i'm using a laptop
[20:58] <zykotick9> area51pilot: if it working in one account, and not in another - it's not a hardware issue
[20:58] <keyboardquestion> nod, it's something in ubuntu
[20:58] <Xtreme> so now i need to set gnome-opens default html to firefox, right zykotick9
[20:58] <zykotick9> Xtreme: ya... not sure how though, good luck.
[20:58] <Xtreme> lol
[20:59] <Xtreme> i will do it later.. currently learning netbeans
[20:59] <zykotick9> Xtreme: which one is working correctly?
[20:59] <Xtreme> xdg
[21:00] <area51pilot> zykotick9: agreed, I should shut up and get all the details first  :P
[21:00] <area51pilot> though maybe it was a desktop
[21:00] <keyboardquestion> so, no ideas?
[21:00] <Xtreme> keyboardquestion:
[21:01] <area51pilot> u got mine and it was worthless
[21:01] <zykotick9> Xtreme: check out "Preferred Applications" in gnome (if that still exists ;)
[21:01] <Xtreme> check if the user to who ur keyboard hangs is running a process which might hanging keyboard
[21:01] <Xtreme> locking it i mean
[21:01] <Xtreme> zykotick9: honestly i never installed gnome
[21:01] <Xtreme> i dont know how it got there
[21:01] <zykotick9> Xtreme: ummm, sorry no suggestions then.
[21:02] <Xtreme> its alright
[21:02] <drvanon> this might be a little out of scope for this channel but, i want to make a server for my LAN. That is all the technical vocabulary i have on this matter. What i want to do is take a little space from all pcs in my local area network and have them share some folders, the point is a have no idea how to do that because some are ubuntu/linux and some are xp
[21:02] <keyboardquestion> Xtreme: I can't imagine it would be running anything. since I can shut down and then turn the machine back on and I still have the issue
[21:02] <Xtreme> keyboardquestion: what if its in startup?
[21:02] <drvanon> do you guys have any idea how to start this from an ununtu laptop?
[21:03] <Fizzik> drvanon: install ubuntu-server and during the install select the samba server install package
[21:03] <Xtreme> zykotick9: its okay, i will do it later on, but can u please help me about startup? removing kget from it
[21:03] <area51pilot> drvanon: r u using the laptop as a server?
[21:03] <drvanon> yes
[21:03] <keyboardquestion> Xtreme: yeah that's something to consider, but I have no idea what process would affect my keyboard in that fashion
[21:03] <Fizzik> or if you already using ubuntu desktop get samba
[21:03] <zykotick9> Xtreme: what DM/WM are you using?
[21:03] <Xtreme> kde
[21:04] <zykotick9> Xtreme: sorry, i'm not the one to ask then (i haven't used KDE in 10+ years)
[21:04] <droid-0854> Hi everybody!  I was wondering if there is a better way to ssh - p 22 -X<EMAIL_ADDRESS>with out deleting the .Xauthority everytime?
[21:04] <Xtreme> its okay
[21:04] <Xtreme> thanks :)
[21:04] <trism> Xtreme: check out: readlink -f /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser, if it outputs a path to chrome, sudo update-alteratives --config x-www-browser; and select the one you want (I believe chrome has a higher priority so it may overwrite the others)
[21:05] <zykotick9> trism: i'd "guess" update-alternatives is the xdg? not the gnome?
[21:06] <drvanon> area51pilot: which package would that be?
[21:06] <Xtreme> trism: done, u r right chrome is default... but firefox is not in update alternative list.. only chrome and konquorer
[21:06] <Xtreme> so how to add firefox there
[21:06] <befree> Hi. Whats means established sessions? Whats for? I have read about it, but i don't understand  well
[21:06] <zykotick9> trism: guess i was wrong ;)
[21:07] <keyboardquestion> maybe I'll just migrate all my files and settings over to a different user. that seems to be the only solution
[21:07] <trism> zykotick9: I had the same thought as you, but it was my only idea for the inconsistancy
[21:07] <trism> Xtreme: if you installed firefox from the repos, it should be there
[21:07] <befree> Hi. Whats means established sessions? Whats for? I have read about it, but i don't understand  well. It's about firewalls configuration
[21:08] <Xtreme> yes i did, but its not there
[21:08] <area51pilot> Fizzik> drvanon: install ubuntu-server and during the install select the samba server install package
[21:08] <Xtreme> trism, can i do the same i did for java?
[21:08] <AlphaGuyy> Hi. Anyone care to xplain how to connect to a modem via bluetooth
[21:08] <area51pilot> drvanon: are yu trying to setup a fileserver?
[21:08] <drvanon> area51pilot: yes
[21:09] <drvanon> area51pilot; should i download it with apt-get?
[21:09] <Xtreme> trism: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[21:09] <area51pilot> drvanon: what OS are u running now
[21:09] <befree> Can some one explain what mean established session, of firewall configuration?
[21:09] <trism> Xtreme: you can of course add your own alternative, but I'd be more curious why firefox isn't already there
[21:10] <Xtreme> drvanon: ftp server right?? if yes i suggest get filezilla server
[21:10] <drvanon> 11.04
[21:10] <Xtreme> trism: i am too, but please dont tell me to re-install firefox.. i dont want to install all the developers plugin again
[21:10] <drvanon> Xtreme: would that work for LAN?
[21:10] <drvanon> Xtreme: if so, how?
[21:11] <Xtreme> drvanon: well, make it to listen a post say 6000
[21:11] <area51pilot> drvanon: exactly what kind of setup or use are you expecting to achieve?
[21:11] <Xtreme> and using ur lan ip, connect from any ftp client to <local ip>:6000
[21:12] <drvanon> well, I just wanted to easily share files with other pcs
[21:12] <Xtreme> drvanon: eg, i had a ftp server on 1.2 with port 6000, and to access it from 1.3, i used <IP_ADDRESS>:6000 to its ftp client
[21:12] <Xtreme> drvanon: over internet or only lan??
[21:12] <drvanon> just lan (house only)
[21:13] <drvanon> we are all under the same router
[21:13] <Xtreme> why ftp, doesnt linux have like network group? like in windows.. i am sure it does
[21:13] <Xtreme> try that
[21:13] <shadykhan> is there a way to restart my GUI?
[21:13] <shadykhan> without logging out/in
[21:13] <area51pilot> drvanon: just place a dedicated system on the network and share the folder unless u are looking for more security .. can do this in Ubuntu and ... umm ... "W"
[21:13] <Xtreme> shadykhan: end session and startx, dont log out
[21:13] <shadykhan> thx
[21:14] <shadykhan> because all my title bars disappeared
[21:14] <drvanon> area51pilot: what is a dedicated systeM?
[21:14] <shadykhan> and its annoying
[21:14] <Xtreme> drvanon: ur ftp server
[21:14] <area51pilot> drvanon: one that is always available on the network to share files to other systems
[21:14] <Xtreme> drvanon: the one u wanted to make ftp server to be exact
[21:15] <drvanon> can that just be my router?
[21:15] <drvanon> or should it be pc like?
[21:15] <area51pilot> drvanon: router as a file server?
[21:15] <Xtreme> it has to be something with a harddrive and storage space
[21:15] <area51pilot> ^    :)
[21:15] <drvanon> area51pilot: okay, pc like
[21:16] <area51pilot> drvanon: yes
[21:16] <drvanon> what if i turn off the pc?
[21:16] <drvanon> what will happen to the data?
[21:16] <Xtreme> boom goes the server :)
[21:16] <area51pilot> drvanon: then no files will be avail
[21:16] <area51pilot> until u turn it on
[21:16] <drvanon> okay
[21:16] <drvanon> how can i make such a server?
[21:16] <Xtreme> area51pilot: this part, i want to learn too
[21:17] <area51pilot> u dont even need a server .. just a computer with a share on it
[21:17] <drvanon> area51pilot: we are all listening to you
[21:17] <drvanon> area51pilot: he? what exactly do you mean
[21:17] <drvanon> area51pilot: and how to achieve that?
[21:17] <Xtreme> he means, u just need to enable sharing
[21:18] <Xtreme> and let other computers join that sharing netwrok
[21:18] <KittyTeeth> this may not be a linux issue but using natty and using the Banshee Media Player with cd,,,while playing cd is there a way to save the audio on the computer in linux?
[21:18] <area51pilot> place a computer on the LAN that will always be on so that the files on it are always available to other users
[21:18] <Fizzik> drvanon: install samba on the ubuntu machine and look up a samba guide on google?
[21:18] <drvanon> okay
[21:18] <area51pilot> drvanon: which OS do u want to use?
[21:18] <area51pilot> Ubuntu or the other?
[21:19] <Xtreme> Fizzik: is it true that ubuntu has inbuild support for windows file and printer sharing?
[21:19] <auronandace> Xtreme: thats samba
[21:19] <auronandace> !samba | Xtreme
[21:19] <area51pilot> drvanon: sharing a folder in Ubuntu is fairly simple
[21:20] <drvanon> area51pilot: how?
[21:20] <area51pilot> at least with the newer versions
[21:20] <Xtreme> auronandace: hi bro, how are you?? missed u earlier
[21:21] <auronandace> Xtreme: did someone else help you?
[21:22] <area51pilot> drvanon: depends on which release but there is system setting/preferences for allowing file sharing
[21:22] <i7c> webcams and stuff like that... can simply be unplugged or can i somehow disable the usb connection before?
[21:22] <area51pilot> drvanon: what type of hardware are you planning on using?
[21:22] <area51pilot> drvanon: newer or older?
[21:23] <drvanon> 11.04 maybe xp
[21:23] <drvanon> think 11.04
[21:23] <reCAPTCHA> Hey, I want to delete an old partition in gparted, but every time I try to do so it says "Unable to delete /dev/sda5! Please unmount any logical partition having a number higher than 5.
[21:23] <Xtreme> yup, solved most of problems. except 2.. 1) when my ubuntu hang, i can press ctrl+alt+f1 to go back to terminal.. but how can i terminate application from there? 2) i want to remove kget from startup, i tried startup and shutdown in settings, but kget is not there.
[21:24] <drvanon> area51pilot: is it something with proxys?
[21:24] <auronandace> Xtreme: kget? not familiar with that. kde app?
[21:24] <area51pilot> drvanon: pick one and go from there. In Win its very easy, right click on a folder and go to properties ... you will see a tab to share the folder with other network users
[21:25] <Xtreme> kget is kde graphical gui for wget.. just like gwget for gnome
[21:25] <area51pilot> drvanon: no proxies
[21:25] <auronandace> Xtreme: and that gets started automatically?
[21:25] <Xtreme> yes it does
[21:25] <drvanon> area51pilot: how to do that in ubuntu?
[21:25] <auronandace> Xtreme: odd
[21:25] <LjL> Xtreme: considering it doesn't even have wget as a dependency, i would doubt that :P
[21:25] <auronandace> !upstart | Xtreme
[21:26] <area51pilot> drvanon:  you going to use 11.04?
[21:26] <drvanon> yes
[21:27] <drvanon> area51pilot: found button
[21:27] <drvanon> shared it
[21:27] <drvanon> but now i dont know how to get it from the other pcs
[21:28] <area51pilot> drvanon: from another PC browse the network for the system u shared the file on
[21:28] <drvanon> how to browse a network
[21:28] <drvanon> ?
[21:28] <area51pilot> drvanon: when you select that system all available shares should be visible
[21:28] <drvanon> how to select a system?
[21:29] <area51pilot> drvanon: from your file manager you should see an option to "Browse the Network"
[21:30] <drvanon> a
[21:30] <drvanon> hh
[21:30] <area51pilot> double click on it and you should see network devices
[21:30] <Xtreme> LjL: i read like that someplace.. i just installed to check.. anyways,, i like wqet more, its faster then others
[21:30] <area51pilot> drvanon: then click on the computer that hosts the shared files
[21:30] <Xtreme> auronandace: reading the documents :) thanks
[21:31] <i7c> webcams and stuff like that... can simply be unplugged or can i somehow disable the usb connection before?
[21:31] <drvanon> area51pilot: how would i do that? in filezilla?
[21:31] <area51pilot> drvanon: filezilla is an FTP client
[21:31] <area51pilot> u dont need it to do this
[21:32] <drvanon> what do you recommend?
[21:32] <dekuked> is there an easy way to install the proprietary catalyst driver via the command line?
[21:32] <area51pilot> drvanon: any PC (Ubuntu or Win) can accomplish this from the file manager or windows explorer
[21:34] <drvanon> area51pilot: where in nautilus would i find that?
[21:34] <drvanon> if it is nautilus?
[21:34] <drvanon> found it
[21:34] <area51pilot> :)
[21:34] <drvanon> area51pilot: you just earned carma
[21:35] <Xtreme> area51pilot: no its not
[21:35] <Xtreme> area51pilot: it is also a ftp server
[21:35] <Xtreme> area51pilot: a darn good one infact
[21:35] <X-tonic> why is ubuntu so restrictive with GTK themes since 11.10? Initially it provided so many lot more.
[21:35] <area51pilot> Xtreme  ?
[21:35] <Xtreme> filezilla is not only ftp client, but also a ftp server
[21:35] <area51pilot> filezilla does have a server ... but im not going there with this conversation  :P
[21:36] <drvanon> area51pilot: but what would be my password?
[21:36] <area51pilot> I just set one up on XP cause i couldnt get a good *nix version up and running quick
[21:36] <area51pilot> Xtreme: I agree
[21:36] <area51pilot> ;)
[21:36] <area51pilot> drvanon: did you password the file folder share?
[21:37] <drvanon> not that i know
[21:37] <drvanon> sorry was the printer
[21:37] <area51pilot> there should not be a password unless you set one ... else it might be a pass on the machine youre accessing
[21:37] <area51pilot> drvanon: baby steps  :D
[21:38] <area51pilot> have u tried searching this subject online ... visual aids may assist u
[21:38] <trism> X-tonic: I don't imagine we will see many themes in the repos until gnome provides tools to change them by default. for the moment extracting themes to ~/.themes and installing gnome-tweak-tool works though
[21:38] <area51pilot> drvanon: u r sooo close I can feel it
[21:39] <angelus> hi all
[21:39] <area51pilot> drvanon: I need to go take care of a stupd Win server right now ... be back later on
[21:39] <area51pilot> users whining  .... ugh!
[21:40] <drvanon> area51pilot: realy thabks for your help
[21:40] <drvanon> i think ill fix it to nifht
[21:40] <area51pilot> drvanon: anytime!  have a great day!
[21:40] <X-tonic> trism, i understand. But my only issue is that gnome-tweak-tool has gnome-shell as dependency. Which sort of ruins my personal choice of not wanting to install things which i dont use. :(
[21:41] <angelus> I'm having big problems with flash and my graphic card . Suddenly some black pixels show an strange background like if graphic memory doesn't clean . I can see it when i make a glxgears .
[21:41] <angelus> but if i try to make an screenshot it doesn't show that strange pixels
[21:42] <angelus> any idea?
[21:44] <Xtreme> angelus: maybe lost souls are trying to make contact with you..  sorry, i am new to ubuntu myself... but someone else will help u for sure
[21:45] <angelus> thanks Xtreme
[21:45] <angelus> i have been using ubuntu 5 years ago
[21:45] <scott_z> How can I have a program start at boot or login (like an autoexec.bat)?
[21:45] <angelus> and this strange things always happen with flash
[21:45] <Noorideen> what are the differences between ubuntu and fedora?
[21:45] <angelus> fedora is redhat
[21:46] <Noorideen> angelus i never used ubuntu yet
[21:46] <Noorideen> gunna start using it from tomorrow
[21:46] <Noorideen> some guy told me fedora is better
[21:46] <Noorideen> is that true?
[21:47] <zykotick9> scott_z: for boot check rc.local, for login depends on the DE
[21:47] <angelus> the term best doesn't fit this
[21:47] <angelus> is a linux flavour Noorideen
[21:47] <angelus> i think its ok when all things runs good from start
[21:47] <scott_z> zykotick9: DE?
[21:47] <Noorideen> angelus: so are you telling to start using ubuntu?
[21:47] <angelus> but i doesn't like so much redhat , at less like a desktop system
[21:48] <angelus> at less test it Noorideen
[21:48] <angelus> and i don't like the unity desktop
[21:48] <angelus> try to use clasic gnome one
[21:48] <Areckx> Is there a way to access this channel's log file from yesterday?
[21:48] <Noorideen> whats gnome?
[21:48] <Noorideen> sorry if i am annoying you
[21:48] <Noorideen> but..
[21:48] <angelus> ubuntu is a linus os
[21:48] <Areckx> gnome is a graphical interface
[21:48] <Areckx> Noorideen,
[21:48] <angelus> gnome is a graphical desktop interface
[21:49] <muelli> Areckx: I think there are archives. Google will know.
[21:49] <wylde> !logs | Areckx
[21:49] <Areckx> muelli,  so I type freenode #ubuntu
[21:49] <bagels> Hey what's the room for ubu v 12?
[21:49] <Areckx> wylde,  thanks
[21:49] <Xtreme> !gnome | Noorideen
[21:49] <wylde> !precise | bagels
[21:49] <bagels> thank youuuuu~
[21:49] <Noorideen> angelus: thank you
[21:50] <angelus> you're wellcome
[21:50] <angelus> im still using ubuntu 11.04
[21:50] <angelus> then i can't tell you about 12
[21:50] <zykotick9> scott_z: DE = Desktop Environment (Gnome,KDE,XFCE,etc)
[21:51] <Xtreme> angelus: i prefer kde..
[21:52] <scott_z> zykotick9: I have Gnome (if that is the stock DE on install) searching now for location of rc.local. Sorry for all the newbie questions, but I am one.
[21:52] <angelus> Xtreme i think KDE is a powerfull team with no right way
[21:52] <Roasted> does restricted-extras include java?
[21:52] <angelus> i think so Roasted
[21:52] <WneASTa9>  /etc/rc.local
[21:52] <Xtreme> well, reason i use kde is its like windows.. little more friendly.. thats the way i find it though
[21:53] <Xtreme> many people dont prefer kde.. i tried gnome too
[21:53] <zykotick9> scott_z: you should find some sort of autorun in the menu for Gnome/Unity - sorry I haven't used gnome3 so don't know what it's called.
[21:53] <angelus> When problem comes gnome will save your ass :D
[21:53] <angelus> :D
[21:54] <scott_z> zyotick9: I have 3 rc.local files in /etc/init.d, /etc, and /var/lib/update-rc.d
[21:54] <wylde> !restricted | Roasted
[21:54] <zykotick9> Roasted: openjava yes
[21:54] <Roasted> zykotick9, doesn't appear as if it loaded what I needed.
[21:54] <zykotick9> scott_z: what is it you want to run?  and do you want it at boot or login?
[21:54] <Roasted> zykotick9, this web gui for an hp laserjet is tanking saying I need a plugin. Firefox took me to install iced tea. loading it now from synaptic to see if chrome behaves now.
[21:55] <Roasted> zykotick9, iced tea worked. :D
[21:55] <zykotick9> Roasted: FYI icedtea is the openjava plugin
[21:55] <Roasted> zykotick9, nice. It didn't work after I installed restricted-extras tho.
[21:56] <angelus> search jre in sypnaptic
[21:56] <angelus> and install java one
[21:56] <zykotick9> angelus: sun-java is no longer in the repos
[21:56] <pankaj> can i swear?
[21:56] <zykotick9> !language | pankaj
[21:56] <angelus> oh really? ¬¬
[21:56] <scott_z> zykotick9: It is just a program and I guess at login is fine as if i boot my machine I log in. The package (program) is BOINC. It runs in the background all the time and I have to start it each time I boot or login and sometimes I forget.
[21:57] <pankaj> just wanna have some fun
[21:57] <pankaj> can i?
[21:57] <zykotick9> scott_z: using the menu options vs rc.local is probably a lot easier - but that will run at login, not boot.
[21:57] <wylde> !autostart | scott_z
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> pankaj  have fun in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:57] <zykotick9> !ot | pankaj
[21:57] <zykotick9> wylde: thanks!  scott_z
[21:58] <wylde> :)
[21:58] <angelus> no idea of why flash hash steal part of my memory graphic card ?
[21:58] <angelus> some black zones shows me an strange background in many apps while having crashes with flash and the last chrome
[22:00] <scott_z> wylde: thanks and you too zykotick9
[22:01] <wylde> scott_z: glad to help.
[22:01] <KD7SPO-rod>
[22:01] <KD7SPO-rod>
[22:01] <FloodBot1> KD7SPO-rod: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:03] <scott_z> Next question. I have set my default video player to kaffeine in system info: default applications, but when I double click on an AVI file it still launches movie  player. I have to right click on the AVI and select open with and then kaffiene. Any ideas?
[22:05] <trism> scott_z: right click on one of the avi and go to Properties, then check that the default in the open with tab is kaffeine
[22:07] <scott_z> trism: thanks that worked!
[22:10] <JPeterso2> how do i symlink on ntfs?
[22:11] <WneASTa9> from Ubuntu?
[22:11] <JPeterso2> yes
[22:12] <JPeterso2> ln -s fails on ntfs, ln: creating symbolic link `link': Operation not supported
[22:12] <NurseDad> what is the name of the utility that allows ubuntu to be installed in windows like a program?
[22:12] <wylde> !wubi | NurseDad
[22:12] <itaylor57> !wubi | NurseDad
[22:12] <WneASTa9> I don't think you do. A "junction" is the closest analog to symlinks on NTFS, and I don't know of a *nix driver that supports them
[22:13] <NurseDad> is Wudi safe?
[22:13] <hypn0> ;-))
[22:14] <irvken> NurseDad, what do you mean by safe?
[22:14] <wylde> NurseDad: I've never used it myself.
[22:14] <NurseDad> what r the chances it will screw up my windows install
[22:14] <ReXHaviK> JPeterso2: look at 'how to vfs a ntfs partition' , once the ntfs is seen as a local (vfs) you can symlink to your hearts content
[22:15] <irvken> none, only you can do that
[22:15] <NurseDad> LOL
[22:15] <WneASTa9> ReXHaviK: is the ntfs partition still usable when mounted back on a windows box?
[22:16] <ReXHaviK> WneASTa9: you mean real time share? not sure i would do that
[22:17] <ReXHaviK> WneASTa9: otherwise yes
[22:17] <WneASTa9> ReXHaviK: no, I mean after you've dropped a bunch of symlinks in your NTFS partition, how does a Windows box handle them?
[22:17] <WneASTa9> does it just see them as junctions?
[22:19] <ReXHaviK> WneASTa9: the links on the ntfs?
[22:19] <WneASTa9> yes
[22:19] <wylde> !ntfs
[22:19] <pooltable> help how ti fix this W:GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 52A794126E3AB2D3, W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/psyke83/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[22:19] <pooltable> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/psyke83/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[22:19] <pooltable> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.?
[22:20] <ReXHaviK> WneASTa9: http://linux.die.net/man/8/libntfs-gnomevfs <-- perhaps this will help
[22:21] <Boohbah> pooltable: http://askubuntu.com/questions/104213/gpg-invalid-signature
[22:22] <WneASTa9> thanks
[22:22] <Boohbah> pooltable: http://askubuntu.com/questions/114928/update-manager-not-working-fail-to-download-repository-information
[22:26] <pooltable> how do i edit my edited your sources.list to reflect that change.?
[22:27] <Zkye> ... is this a place to ask questions about ubuntu?
[22:29] <Zkye> hello?
[22:29] <Zkye> anybody home?
[22:30] <WneASTa9> ask away, though a lot of people are just idling. You can also try askubuntu.com
[22:31] <Zkye> Anybody home?
[22:31] <SolarNRG> What have I got to say to these peopel to get a job: Senior IMST Programme Manager (IPDE) - Barrow-In-Furness - £66500-75500 per annum
[22:31] <WneASTa9> you miss responses when you jump into a channel and then out
[22:32] <WneASTa9> zyke: ask away, though a lot of people are just idling. You can also try askubuntu.com
[22:32] <WneASTa9> Zkye: even
[22:32] <Zkye> what is askubuntu.com?
[22:33] <fl1bbl3> I'm guessing a website :)
[22:34] <Zkye> ... look... I'm trying to learn about ubuntu and I've managed to install it on an old pc I have, but some this arent workig, and I need some help
[22:34] <cocolos> Is there a way to make empathy notifications clickable?
[22:35] <malibu> Does anyone here use midnight commander?  I don't really understand the background operations.  Will they keep going if the terminal session closes?
[22:35] <cocolos> Zkye: what's up?
[22:35] <fl1bbl3> Zkye: and people are answering you and being helpful
[22:35] <Zkye> yeah! how can I reply to them personaly?
[22:36] <fl1bbl3> usually as long as its a short question/answer then in channel is fine
[22:36] <fl1bbl3> otherwise use a pm (/msg <perspn>
[22:36] <Roasted> Question - If I want to install OpenJDK7, I assume I'dj ust to a remove --purge openjdk-6* and apt-get install openjdk-7*?
[22:37] <wylde> !tab | Zkye
[22:38] <ecthiender> .py list
[22:38] <ecthiender> oops wrong screen
[22:39] <fl1bbl3> Zkye: its generally considered best to ask someone before you pm them
[22:39] <Iarfen> what's a good sniffer??
[22:39] <Zkye> oh
[22:39] <fl1bbl3> Iarfen: ettercap
[22:39] <Zkye> sorry!
[22:39] <BarkingFish> i used to use airsnort, but Ubuntu doesn't have that available afaik
[22:40] <Zkye> fl1bbl3: I'm just desperatly looking for help on ubuntu
[22:40] <Iarfen> fl1bbl3: ty!!
[22:40] <fl1bbl3> ask in channel Zkye
[22:40] <fl1bbl3> more people can help then
[22:40] <SolarNRG> This HAS to be the funniest video I have seen in a long time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikqveFuqWHc
[22:41] <wylde> !details | Zkye
[22:41] <wylde> !ot | SolarNRG
[22:41] <BarkingFish> !offtopic | SolarNRG
[22:41] <BarkingFish> nvm
[22:42] <Zkye> First of all I'm new to ubuntu and it's kind of complicated for me because I don't know anything about linux.
[22:42] <WneASTa9> you still have to ask a question before anyone can provide help
[22:42] <cocolos> ^ Agreed
[22:42] <Zkye> So far I managed to install ubuntu 11.10 on an old PC I have
[22:42] <cocolos> Zkye: what's the problem?
[22:43] <Zkye> The first problem is that I don't know if all the hardware that is inside my desktop is actually working
[22:43] <scott_z> in the classicmenu-indicator, how do you tell what each icon launches? (like a right click/ proporties in windows)
[22:43] <Zkye> Like my graphics card...
[22:43] <oavoo> hello every one.
[22:43] <oavoo> i am new here
[22:43] <WneASTa9> Zkye: if you have graphics, your graphics card is probably working ;)
[22:43] <StepNjump> I am trying to search all files EXCEPT for the hidden ones. How would I do that?: find -iname . -type f
[22:44] <Iarfen> How I can see the encoding of the files on Ubuntu??
[22:44] <scott_z> in other words what would i type in a terminal window to launch the program
[22:44] <Zkye> I've looked up serveral ways to check my hardware on ubuntu but they all seem so complicaed, I have to put in commands and commands and i don't even know where
[22:45] <wylde> Iarfen: 'file path/to/filename'
[22:45] <dalek_> Hey, does anyone know how to force virtualbox to quit from command line? It has frozen in full screen and I can't get back to the host OS.
[22:45] <Zkye> I have graphics, but I know like in Windows, my graphics card works when I first install Windows, but it's mostly laggy and then I need to install the actual driver and it works fine, but I don't know if ubuntu is using a backup system or if the card is fully working...
[22:45] <Iarfen> wylde: xD ty!!
[22:45] <oavoo> ctrl f4
[22:46] <oavoo> on windows
[22:46] <Carraway2> exit
[22:46] <Iarfen> wylde: it doesn't work... it only says me PHP file, not if it's on utf-8 or another charset...
[22:46] <Zkye> that's my first problem
[22:46] <Zkye> second is my internet is not working... But I'll wait untill y first problem is answered
[22:47] <WneASTa9> Zkye: commands and the terminal are a big part of Linux. Ubuntu does away with a lot of the need for deep digging but not all of it.
[22:47] <wylde> Iarfen: hmm ok, I misunderstood your question. I assumed you wanted it for media files :)
[22:47] <Iarfen> wylde: no, I need to save my files on utf-8
[22:48] <dlentz> Zkye, glxinfo is useful to make sure full 3D is working ( sudo apt-get install mesa-utils; glxinfo )
[22:48] <Zkye> So how can I check wich hardware ubuntu is recognising, and which it isn't
[22:48] <StepNjump> It's weird there is a ls -a that lists all files Including the hidden ones but nothing that will list all files Except the hidden ones!
[22:48] <Zkye> dlentz: is that a command that I need internet connection for?
[22:49] <dlentz> Zkye, yes, so forget it. just tell us what GPU you have
[22:49] <wylde> Iarfen: 'file -i something.php'
[22:50] <Iarfen> wylde: ok ty!!
[22:50] <zykotick9> StepNjump: you mean "ls"?
[22:51] <wylde> Iarfen: show the index.php in the root of my webserver as "index.php: text/x-php; charset=us-ascii"
[22:51] <StepNjump> zykotick9: well yes but recursively
[22:51] <zykotick9> StepNjump: "ls -R"?
[22:51] <Iarfen> wylde: so it's good if the charset is us-ascii??? I don't need to change it to utf-8??
[22:52] <StepNjump> zykotick9: I was more thinking of find -iname . -type f !=hidden
[22:52] <wylde> Iarfen: I wouldn't think so. I imagine you'd only have to be concerned if you were using special characters.
[22:52] <Iarfen> wylde: I'm using characters like ñ and other similars....
[22:53] <wylde> StepNjump: 'ls -RA /home/$USER'
[22:53] <Zkye> where can i see what GPU I have ?
[22:53] <zykotick9> Zkye: "lspci | grep -i vga" is one way
[22:54] <Zkye> zykotick9: is that a command ?
[22:54] <dlentz> Zkye, yes
[22:54] <zykotick9> Zkye: yes, run from terminal
[22:54] <Zkye> where do I input it?
[22:54] <Zkye> where can i find this terminal?
[22:54] <zykotick9> !terminal
[22:55] <wylde> Iarfen: I'm not sure, sorry. I've never had to worry about that. I never had enough special charaters on a page to need different encoding.
[22:55] <bizzarrone> hi
[22:55] <bizzarrone> ciao a tutti
[22:55] <StepNjump> wylde: oh thanks, I didn't know about -A
[22:55] <bizzarrone> una domanda per gli smanettoni...
[22:55] <Zkye> ok I've got the terminal I think... Now what do I type exactly to know what GPU I have?
[22:55] <bizzarrone> qualcuno che parla italiano?
[22:55] <zykotick9> !it | bizzarrone
[22:55] <StepNjump> wylde: but what I'm really to do is something like this find . -type f \( -iname "*.txt" ! -iname ".*" \)
[22:56] <zykotick9> Zkye: "lspci | grep -i vga"
[22:56] <wylde> StepNjump: most commands have a --help flag. You can get all kinds of info there :)
[22:56] <bizzarrone> sorry, i supposed to be on #sistemisti channel. sorry
[22:56] <StepNjump> wylde: zykotick9 ... through some conditions, I am trying to list all those files that match the criteria except for .* files
[22:56] <itaylor57> or even man pages it seems
[22:57] <wylde> StepNjump: ok so you want to find all the text files recursively through the directory structure? The -A flag ignores . files.
[22:57] <Zkye> zykotick9: the respons I got was: "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6610 XL] (rev a2)
[22:58] <zykotick9> Zkye: so you have an nvidia 6610XL it seems
[22:58] <StepNjump> Ok thanks guys. I found it
[22:58] <Zkye> so it seems, now how do I know if it fully works
[22:58] <wylde> StepNjump: moment, I'm going to pipe 'ls -RA /mywebdir/*.php' to pastebin. Then tell me if that's similar to what you want.
[22:59] <StepNjump> wylde: no it's more like I was trying to find all files greater than a certain size except for the hidden ones
[22:59] <zykotick9> Zkye: well, "fully works"?  you can either use the opensource Nouveau driver, or the proprietary nvidia driver (you probably want the later)
[22:59] <wylde> StepNjump: ahh alrighty.
[23:00] <Zkye> ... note that the PC where Ubuntu is currently installed on has no internet, where do I donwload an ubunto compatible driver and hwo do I install it?
[23:00] <zykotick9> Zkye: trying to use ubuntu without internet is "difficult"
[23:01] <Oer> !offline
[23:01] <Zkye> zykotick9: ... no... don't tell me that... WHY ?
[23:01] <bizzarrone> could I ask a stupid question about VirtualBox? just a question about the performance and the usb support..
[23:01] <fleischwolf> hi everyone. i'm looking for a no-gui-live-version of ubuntu. is there one ?
[23:03] <akem> don't think so, but you can boot the regular one in text mode i guess or directly switch to console...
[23:03] <Zkye> zykotick9: the main problem is... I have an ethernet controller in my PC, and with a working eternet cable in it(it gives internet to my pc next to it if i try it) but ubuntu doesn't get connected with the internet
[23:03] <daftykins> bizzarrone: i'll bet there's a virtualbox channel :D
[23:03] <zykotick9> daftykins: #vbox
[23:04] <daftykins> zykotick9: er yeah now tell him that :)
[23:05] <Zkye> zykotick9: It's a VIA VT6105
[23:05] <fleischwolf> akem: i'm asking, because i want a ram-only-setup with a small database, so i want only a minimalist setting to provide enough space. is ubuntu the right choice for that anyway ?
[23:05] <wylde> !mini | fleischwolf
[23:06] <Zkye> ...?
[23:07] <fleischwolf> wylde: thanks for the link. does "installation" refer to an actual hd-installation or can i keep it in the ram ?
[23:11] <wylde> fleischwolf: I can't say I've tried that, but I imagine you could.
[23:11] <Zkye> So no one can answer my question?
[23:12] <wylde> fleischwolf: you may need soemthing else for the setup you want though. hmmm.
[23:13] <fleischwolf> wylde: i would only need support for internet (cable), a ssh daemon, an apache and mysql
[23:14] <wylde> fleischwolf: I don't think the mini iso is what you want then. Some live cd that will load to ram. Or, use an ltsp server to boot from heh.   Fucking scalliwags.
[23:17] <fleischwolf> wylde: i wouldn't need remote-application-access. it's just for a private torrent-server i want to set up for me and my roommates
[23:19] <wylde> fleischwolf: right, I guess a live cd is your best bet then. You can install packages into the live session as long as you don't run out of space on the "ram disk".
[23:19] <ss23`> Hey, I have an Ubuntu 11.10 live CD, and I'm just wanting to backup some stuff off the HDD to a windows sahre, but I can't seem to figure out how to mount windows shares. I see in the home browser thingy, and a "browse network" -> "windows network", however the windows network tab never seems to load if I click on it, it seems to just say loading, but either not load, or just "stop" loading without doing anythign (as in, actl ike I nev
[23:20] <ss23`> Is there something else I could be doing to mount a windows share? Preferably being able to browse the different shares without having to explictly define a Pc name + share (as in, being able to browse the shares)
[23:21] <fleischwolf> wylde: yeah, i was worrying about the space, so i thought it would be cool to have only a basic install in ram, so there is enough room for the database. still not sure, if ubuntu is the right choice. there is a bunch of minimalist distros on the web, but it's not clear which have ram-only-support
[23:21] <zykotick9> fleischwolf: you can't install or run ubuntu from RAM only, you need some sort of media to install to.
[23:21] <bizzarrone> daftykins, I am there in fact, thank u!
[23:22] <fleischwolf> zykotick9: i don't want to install it from ram, i just want to run it in ram, filesystem and all
[23:22] <daftykins> >:D
[23:22] <daftykins> np
[23:22] <zykotick9> fleischwolf: i've never heard of any linux distro you can run exclusivly from RAM - i don't see how that would be possilbe
[23:22] <wylde> fleischwolf: lots do, altho we're probably gonna get slapped with an !ot, since we're wandering off Ubuntu Support :)
[23:22] <fleischwolf> wylde: should i ask in #linux ?
[23:22] <bizzarrone> hi all, is there a way to list or search a program installed on system with apt-cache ?
[23:23] <fleischwolf> zykotick9: why shouldn't it be possible ?
[23:23]  * zykotick9 this RAM disk thing seems popular with the minecraft crowd - makes no sense to me.
[23:23] <bizzarrone> I mean, to filter the search only on installed SW.
[23:23] <wylde> fleischwolf: I don't see why not, probably get some useful opinions and answers in there.
[23:23] <zykotick9> !pm Zkye in channel please :)
[23:23] <zykotick9> !pm | Zkye in channel please :)
[23:24] <jrib> bizzarrone: if you want powerful package searching, I'd suggest using aptitude
[23:24] <fleischwolf> wylde: ok, i'll try it there. i was just asking in here, because i like ubuntu a lot :) thanks for your help
[23:24] <wylde> fleischwolf: np :)
[23:24] <jrib> bizzarrone: if you're more specific about what you want to do though, maybe there is another way
[23:24] <zykotick9> jrib: +1 on aptitudes searching power.  but there are odd cases with it's search.  bizzarrone
[23:25] <bizzarrone> jrib, ok. I mean.. I want to search all SW that contains sudoku into the installed packages on my system.
[23:25] <jrib> bizzarrone: contains "sudoku" where?  In the name of the package?
[23:25] <bizzarrone> yes.
[23:26] <jrib> bizzarrone: you can do this if you don't want to use aptitude: dpkg -l | grep '^ii' | grep sudoku
[23:27] <bizzarrone> maybe I found .. --installed option in apt-cache
[23:27] <bizzarrone> jrib,  I will try
[23:27] <bizzarrone> your comand
[23:28] <jrib> bizzarrone: in aptitude you could just do: aptitude search '~i~nsudoku'
[23:28] <Areckx> ok so java is really not wanting to work
[23:28] <bizzarrone> jrib, thank you
[23:29] <icallitvera> what it do
[23:29] <Areckx> I just installed jre1areckx@areckx:~$ java -version
[23:29] <Areckx> java version "1.7.0_03"
[23:29] <Areckx> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_03-b04)
[23:29] <Areckx> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 22.1-b02, mixed mode)
[23:29] <Areckx> areckx@areckx:~$ javac -version
[23:29] <FloodBot1> Areckx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:29] <Areckx> The program 'javac' can be found in the following packages:
[23:29] <wylde> bizzarrone: 'apt-cache pkgnames | grep sudoku' would work too
[23:29] <fellayaboy> is it possible to send a fax to my hp allin one printer...it supports fax..
[23:30] <wylde> Areckx: really? Didi you forget about pastebin already?
[23:30] <jrib> wylde: would that search only installed packages though?
[23:30] <MrUnagi> Which proxy do I need if I want to encrypt all of my internet traffic
[23:30] <Areckx> sorry, http://paste.ubuntu.com/936187/
[23:30] <wylde> jrib: whoops my bad got ahead of myself.
[23:30] <icallitvera> MrUnagi a  router one
[23:31] <MrUnagi> There's not one that will do it at the end user?
[23:31] <Areckx> wylde,  please forgive me, I am not perfect
[23:31] <fellayaboy> im using a cable modem (not dsl or telephone company, but my fax machine at home is connect to a phone line which can fax just fine...is it possible i could send me file to get faxed remotely?
[23:31] <icallitvera> Areckx the javac is in a different package (the compiler)
[23:31] <Areckx> icallitvera,  oh I thought jdk was for developrs
[23:32] <icallitvera> MrUnagi idk theres TOR and i2p but as far as i know you have to set up each application to use the proxy
[23:33] <Areckx> so if I download jdk1.7.03 and do the same process for that will it work?
[23:34] <Areckx> I used this guide http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[23:34] <marcm> if I install Ubuntu 12.04 beta 2, can I just upgrade to the release when the release becomes available, or do I need to do a reinstall?
[23:34] <jrib> marcm: the former
[23:34] <icallitvera> Areckx can i ask why you installed it like that?
[23:35] <Areckx> icallitvera,  I couldn't figure out any other way to install java
[23:35] <marcm> jrib so I can just do a apt-get upgrade?
[23:35] <jrib> !final | marcm
[23:35] <icallitvera> Areckx what i do (because i'm bad at package names) java in commandline
[23:35] <icallitvera> and then it gives me options to isntall
[23:35] <marcm> jrib thanks allot
[23:35] <icallitvera> just open up synaptic and search for java
[23:36] <Areckx> icallitvera,  oh ok that might work
[23:36] <bizzarrone> bye
[23:37] <getBoa> Guys, Would Cinnamon WM run without problems on this graphic card [AMD] ATI RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series] ? Ubuntu 12.04
[23:38] <mattswell> anyone super familiar with munin
[23:38] <Guest28830> hi,anyone know of issues with cheese and ubuntu 11.10?
[23:39] <Guest28830> i can get the webcam to display,but freezes when attempting to record
[23:39] <JRWR> I wanted some advice on a file system to use on across 5-10 servers that have a shared block device (iSCSI), GlusterFS and LusterFS seem to be it, but they dont say anything about shared block device support
[23:40] <Areckx> I think icedtea is a solution for openjdk?
[23:40] <wylde> Areckx: yep
[23:40] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[23:41] <icallitvera> what isn't icedtea the browser plugin for java
[23:41] <Jordan_U> JRWR: You might get try asking in #ubuntu-server.
[23:44] <ahmad> Salam everyone
[23:44] <Areckx> hihi
[23:44] <zacarias_> Hi. How do you alocate more memory to java in Ubuntu?
[23:44] <Areckx> Yay icedtea works
[23:45] <Areckx> are any of these not safe? http://www.stchman.com/essen_pack.html
[23:46] <icallitvera> Areckx these are all already in the repositories so they should be okay
[23:46] <icallitvera> just read what it is taht they do
[23:46] <zacarias> Hi. How do you alocate more memory to java in Ubuntu?
[23:46] <Areckx> icallitvera,  oh ok, just checking to see if the creater of that website is legit
[23:46] <Areckx> http://www.stchman.com/
[23:47] <icallitvera> zacarias have you tried the man pages? (google minecraft server launch command) sometimes they give how to launch with allocated memory
[23:47] <Areckx> I am always careful if ever asked to do an add-apt
[23:47] <Areckx> how secure is my sudo password?
[23:47] <icallitvera> Areckx yes with add-apt you should be more careful but with the standard repos you hsould be good
[23:47] <efbeye> Areckx, give it to me, i'll let you know ;)
[23:47] <icallitvera> Areckx depends on what it is
[23:48] <Areckx> efbeye,  lmao
[23:48] <Loshki> zacarias: see -Xmx on the java man page....
[23:48] <Areckx> what I mean is, if someone hacks my system using my IP or otherwise, would they have access to my sudo pasword?
[23:48] <Areckx> is it located in a file?
[23:48] <efbeye> can't you use encryption for something like that?
[23:49] <jrib> Areckx: of course it isn't
[23:49] <icallitvera> Areckx no
[23:49] <itaylor57> zacarias, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/how-to-allocate-memory-to-java-763703/
[23:49] <Areckx> how does the system remember what the password is without it being in a file?
[23:49] <jrib> Areckx: it stores a hash of your password
[23:49] <zacarias> Loshki: it works with an installed app that you want to open. But what about an online applet?
[23:49] <Areckx> !hash | Areckx
[23:49] <icallitvera> Areckx i assume that its stores it in a encrypted file or  something like that
[23:50] <Areckx> ok is there a list of !commands for this channel?
[23:50] <jrib> Areckx: sudo grep $USEr /etc/shadow will show you what it stores if you're interested
[23:50] <jrib> Areckx: sudo grep $USER /etc/shadow will show you what it stores if you're interested
[23:51] <metbsd> will linux desktop replace windows?
[23:51] <jrib> !ot | metbsd
[23:51] <Areckx> metbsd,  no since it is always a matter of personal preference
[23:52] <itaylor57> zacarias, http://docs.oracle.com/javase/1.4.2/docs/guide/plugin/developer_guide/console.html
[23:52] <Areckx> oh and http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[23:53] <itaylor57> zacarias, not the most current but you set it via the java console
[23:54] <zacarias> itaylor57: how do I do that?
[23:54] <itaylor57> it should be in our applications
[23:55] <itaylor57> i forget exactly how you do it in ubuntu but it should be system _> applications
[23:55] <itaylor57> or listed in your applications from dash
[23:56] <zacarias> itaylor57: I have the openjdk... I'll try that. Thanks


[17:29] <qwebirc69617> tgm4883: just wondering if you got a response about compiling in crystal hd support?
[17:42] <superm1> qwebirc69617: the source package is only in precise, so it does present some logistical problems
[17:42] <superm1> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/crystalhd
[17:42] <Zinn> [launchpad.net] âcrystalhdâ package : Ubuntu
[17:42] <superm1> were you wanting this on 0.24 or 0.25?
[17:43] <qwebirc69617> I've got a test machine running 11.10 with 0.24-fixes so I was hoping for that
[17:43] <superm1> well we'll need to backport it all the way back to lucid to make that happen
[17:43] <superm1> on both PPAs then
[17:43] <qwebirc69617> ouch
[17:44] <qwebirc69617> I'd be willing to test it on 0.25 but I don't have a test 0.25 backend set up yet
[17:46] <qwebirc69617> Is it a big job to compile it myself?  I haven't looked into that yet
[17:46] <qwebirc69617> figured I'd ask here first
[17:46] <superm1> it shouldn't be a very big job to compile it yourself
[17:46] <superm1> we have a recipe for spitting out your own packages actually if you want to try stuff like that
[17:47] <superm1> http://mythbuntu.org/wiki/recipes
[17:47] <superm1> patching and building from source
[17:47] <Zinn> [mythbuntu.org] Recipes | Mythbuntu
[17:48] <qwebirc69617> that'd be nice to try...I'll take a look.....does this mean you're going to leave it for now or would this be something that gets added when time is available?
[17:49] <superm1> well i'd like to get it added when time is available
[17:51] <qwebirc69617> ah....thanks....is there a way to tell what compile options have been used for a package?
[17:51] <superm1> if you run mythfrontend --version
[17:51] <superm1> it will tell you all the compile options that were included
[17:52] <qwebirc69617> cool...didn't know that....thanks again
[17:52] <superm1> sure
[18:07] <qwebirc69617> superm1: one more question, how would I specify the --enable-crystalhd compile flag using the build-debs.sh script?
[18:36] <superm1> qwebirc69617: do one successful build without it first, and then switch into the work directory/bzr-fixes and modify it in debian/rules
[18:36] <superm1> then bzr commit -m "enable crystal HD locally"
[18:36] <superm1> so that it won't get overwritten during the clean phase
[18:37] <superm1> and run build-debs.sh again
[18:37] <qwebirc69617> I was running the first step and it errors at this line
[18:37] <qwebirc69617> packaging/deb/build-debs.sh: 175: get-build-deps: not found
[18:38] <superm1> ah that means that you're missing a tool
[18:38] <superm1> what package did that come from
[18:38] <superm1> (and we should be checking for that package too)
[18:38] <qwebirc69617> I'm not sure....it was installing all the missing packages and then stopped
[18:39] <qwebirc69617> the previous line is this
[18:39] <qwebirc69617> ubuntu-dev-tools is already the newest version.
[18:39] <superm1> hmm, maybe it used to be in ubuntu-dev-tools but got moved somewhere else
[18:42] <superm1> ah i see it was removed on sep 10
[18:42] <superm1> try using 'mk-build-deps -ir'
[18:42] <superm1> i'll fixup the script later on for that
[18:43] <qwebirc69617> I just noticed it was removed too
[20:51] <qwebirc69617> superm1: just got back to this....mk-build-deps looks like it needs a package name where get-build-deps doesn't
[20:52] <superm1> qwebirc69617: you can try to feed it the package name or the path to the control file i think
[20:53] <qwebirc69617> is it a variable in the script?
[20:54] <superm1> qwebirc69617: based on where pwd is at that time, I think you can just call it like 'mk-build-deps `pwd`/debian/control


[18:06] <realtime-neil> How do I "preseed" ubiquity to use the "first" detected hard drive in a host with multiple hard drives?


[13:52] <zoopster> yo Bryanstein you've been trying to catch me
[13:54] <Bryanstein> zoopster,
[13:54] <Bryanstein> I'll pm you
[13:54] <zoopster> ok
[17:08] <mhall119> Bryanstein: you still need a talk proposal from me don't you, was there anything else?
[17:10] <Bryanstein> mhall119, ummm yes, pretty much...you missed the first cfp deadline but...there is another and we have our mighty Ubucon that we must do
[17:10] <Bryanstein> So you have potential slots regardless :oP
[17:12] <mhall119> ok, were do I submit that and how much do you need, just a summary?


[18:07] <SergioMeneses> pleia2, this man does not understand xD
[18:07] <pleia2> yeah, seems to be new to IRC
[18:08] <SergioMeneses> pleia2, i see too
[18:11] <SergioMeneses> pleia2, do not worry, it recommends the channel and go!
[18:11]  * pleia2 nods
[18:11] <SergioMeneses> pleia2, jajaja
[18:11] <pleia2> :)
[18:22] <SergioMeneses> pleia2, i see you later....
[18:22] <pleia2> later SergioMeneses
[18:22] <SergioMeneses> i have hungry jejeje
[18:22] <pleia2> :)


[19:30] <snail> morning
[19:39] <Atamira> morena e hoa
[19:41] <snail> ka pai!
[19:47] <ajmitch> morning
[20:38] <mwhudson> morning


[00:47] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: sorry! cut you off
[00:55] <veebers> babbageclunk: exciting!
[00:56] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: No worries!
[00:56] <babbageclunk> I don't think it was anything exciting.
[00:57] <babbageclunk> veebers: i know right!
[01:01] <veebers> babbageclunk: hopefully everything was in order
[01:02] <babbageclunk> veebers: yup, it looked better than I remembered it!
[01:05] <veebers> that's a good sign!
[06:35] <wallyworld> axw: should i hold off reviewing the raft cluster pr pending changes to use the (single) address as the node id? I think that's what we agreed right?
[06:37] <axw> wallyworld: yeah, and the rafttransport PR I guess
[06:37] <wallyworld> yep
[06:40] <axw> wallyworld: thanks for the review. can you please see my reply before I merge
[06:40] <wallyworld> sure
[06:41] <wallyworld> axw: ok, no worries, lgtm
[06:41] <axw> thanks
[16:56] <balloons> hml, do you know who is working on retooling backup / restore (if anyone?)?
[19:16] <balloons> vern, I'm still not sure who's working backup / restore fixes, if anyone atm fyi
[19:17] <vern> hml was doing some work on backup/restore. not sure if it was just bug-fixes
[19:18] <hml> vern: agprado and i are going to take a look at back/restore shortly - some bug fixes but review overall
[19:18] <hml> vern: is there somewhere we need to look?
[19:19] <vern> hml: I'm going to write/extend the qa test. want to be sure to have a good plan and to anticipate anything that isn't working right
[19:20] <hml> vern: okay - i’ll have more info next week
[19:36] <balloons> hml, specifically I think the plan was to simplify things right? Or will you focus on bugfixes?
[19:38] <hml> balloons: yes - simplify if we can and try to improve the experience
[19:47] <balloons> vern, try and prep your thoughts on the existing state of the test for standup if you could.
[19:48] <vern> will do
[22:51] <rogpeppe1> anastasiamac: hiya! thanks for working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1745231 so quickly! I just sent a reply to that issue.
[22:51] <mup> Bug #1745231: removed model can cause allmodelwatcher to die permanently <juju:In Progress by anastasia-macmood> <juju 2.3:In Progress by anastasia-macmood> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1745231>
[22:58] <anastasiamac> rogpeppe1: nws - thnx for looking into it :)
[22:58] <rogpeppe1> anastasiamac: it's been bugging us for ages!
[22:59] <rogpeppe1> anastasiamac: luckily the last time it happened i got them to set the logging level to INFO
[22:59] <rogpeppe1> anastasiamac: so i finally saw the problem
[22:59] <anastasiamac> rogpeppe1: yeah, it has been a hard road... m glad u were patient and insightful
[23:00] <rogpeppe1> anastasiamac: BTW i think it would be nice if more places that logged errors logged the error details too
[23:00] <rogpeppe1> anastasiamac: np, it was useful to have got there in the end :)
[23:01] <rogpeppe1> anastasiamac: to get a timely notification when the problem started happening i built a nice prometheus-monitoring tool that shows "jimm: ok" at the top of my screen (in the indicator bar).
[23:01] <rogpeppe1> anastasiamac: i'm sure i can do more interesting things with that :)
[23:02] <anastasiamac> rogpeppe1: that sounds amazing \o/ anything that can be shared with us so that we can keep an eye on it too?
[23:03] <rogpeppe1> anastasiamac: well, indicator-sysmonitor makes it easy to put custom stuff on the indicator panel
[23:04] <rogpeppe1> anastasiamac: and the little localhost server to monitor prometheus is this code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26454773/
[23:05] <anastasiamac> rogpeppe1: niiice
[23:05] <rogpeppe1> anastasiamac: then the script called by indicator-sysmonitor is just (more-or-less) bhttp http://localhost:12468/status
[23:10] <anastasiamac> rogpeppe1: thnx !


[10:30] <xnox> bdrung:  it exploaded my upgrade to jammy; leaving me with unconfigured perl & python, making me run dpkg -i installs by hand for half an hour.
[10:31] <xnox> bdmurray:  and the fix is simple "breaks: swtpm-libs replaces: swtpm-libs" in the swtpm package. third-party provider is debian, when we diverge from debian package naming, we should at least safeguard ourselves.
[10:31] <xnox> unping bdrung
[11:24] <Maik> xnox: wrong channel?


[08:01] <Lurchy> morning everyone
[08:44] <diytto> I am looking forward to finally getting back to working on my server tomorrow
[09:03] <rbasak> Daviey: thanks!
[09:15] <Daviey> rbasak: NP, did you get sent the password?
[09:17] <rbasak> Daviey: no, I don't see anything.
[09:51] <rbasak> Daviey: looks like I'm a list moderator now, but no password :)
[09:51] <rbasak> Daviey: thank you for your help.  I don't have my gpg handy right now - i'll send it to you later today.
[09:53] <rbasak> OK, thanks. No worries if not. I'm sure IS can reset it :)
[10:11] <remmas-sidahmed> Hello
[10:48] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[11:31] <RoyK> afternoon
[11:31] <lordievader> Hey RoyK, how are you doing?
[11:32] <RoyK> fine, thanks
[14:03] <danofsatx> greetings. I'm running a local Ubuntu mirror, using apt-mirror to set it up. When apt-mirror runs, I get a stream of errors where the script can't find the Packages.gz file for the repositories, however the files exist and are reachable.
[14:03] <danofsatx> for example, here's the output from this morning's run: http://fpaste.org/232136/34376109/
[14:03] <danofsatx> I can run wget from the command line on that server, and get every file that apt-mirror can't find. Where do I start troubleshooting it?
[14:05] <TJ-> danofsatx: There's a double "//" in the path - long shot but that might be throwing out the URL handler
[14:05] <danofsatx> wget works with that exact url, and that's the url returned by the mirror.list
[14:10] <danofsatx> actually, I misspoke. The URL isn't fed from mirror.list. The lines in mirror.list are (what I assume to be) a standard apt mirror.list file with space delimeters
[14:10] <TJ-> danofsatx: which release of Ubuntu is this on?
[14:12] <danofsatx> actaully, the apt-mirror script isn't being run from an ubuntu system.
[14:14] <TJ-> danofsatx: The clue is in the "Psh" prefix of the error message.
[14:14] <danofsatx> hmm....ok, I was wondering about that. What does that mean?
[14:17] <TJ-> It's the Perl Shell being used to load the *local* copy of the file telling you there is no local copy.
[14:18] <danofsatx> oh, ok. Is this an actual error then, or just a warning?
[14:20] <TJ-> If the local copy isn't there it means an earlier step to fetch that file hasn't happened
[14:21] <TJ-> danofsatx: do you see the message "Downloading ... files using .... threads"  ?
[14:21] <danofsatx> ok, that makes sense. the first couple I've looked at in fact don't exist.
[14:22] <danofsatx> yes, they start after all those errors.
[14:22] <TJ-> danofsatx: If you read the Perl script you can get a feel for what it does when and what to expect to see in terms of progress messages
[14:23] <TJ-> danofsatx: Hmmm. maybe those errors are to be expected on a first run? Then it fetches the missing files maybe?
[14:24] <TJ-> danofsatx: does the process have permissions to the base_path ?
[14:24] <danofsatx> this isn't a first run - it runs once a week, and I get the same output every time.
[14:24] <TJ-> danofsatx: forget what I said about download order - I can see it does downloads before processing the files
[14:26] <TJ-> danofsatx: if you look at the top of the script (around line 100) you can see the default values of the config_variables, which will be overridden by values you have set in mirror.list
[14:26] <danofsatx> it looks like the missing directory, in all cases, is the debian-installer/ directory.'
[14:28] <TJ-> danofsatx: did the script report that URL as having been downloaded?
[14:29] <danofsatx> hang on, let me dig some more through the output....
[14:32] <danofsatx> no, debian-installer directory is not downloaded.
[14:33]  * danofsatx is now suspecting a mirror.list misconfiguration
[14:34] <TJ-> danofsatx: assuming the default config check the logs with: "grep debian-installer /var/spool/apt-mirror/var/*"
[14:35] <danofsatx> hmmm....there are a few.
[14:36] <danofsatx> on second though, there is one - archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debian-installer/debian-installer_20101020ubuntu318_amd64.deb
[14:36] <danofsatx> the rest of them are libdebian-installer
[14:36] <TJ-> danofsatx: I see this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11719719/
[14:37] <danofsatx> you have the same thing I do, then.
[14:38] <danofsatx> What it is looking for is debian-installer under the main/ multiverse/ or universe/ directories
[14:41] <danofsatx> for example, here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu//dists/trusty/restricted/
[14:46] <TJ-> danofsatx: I suspect you need to modify the config and add an explicit pocket for debian-installer, of the form "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main/debian-installer restricted/debian-installer universe/debian-installer multiverse/debian-installer"
[14:46] <danofsatx> that's where I was leaning, also, but I wasn't sure of the format.
[14:47] <danofsatx> I don't really need the debian-installer, though, I think. My users are using Ubuntu and Mint.
[15:11] <kevinde> Does Bind gets used on enterprise servers?
[15:14] <patdk-lap> sadly, yes :(
[15:18] <xperia> Hi all. I have installed the newest Bind 10 version on my ubuntu server and i am getting now allways the problem with apt-get as it reports that the bind9 package in the repos and the new installed bind10 package collide. i have tryed to do apt-get -f install but it does not help. how can i fix my ubuntu server apt service so i am able again to update the distro ?
[15:21] <TJ-> xperia: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[16:04] <zul> jamespage: ping...im adding a patch to the nova branch for liberty to make configdrive work for lxd, its a 6 liner
[16:04] <jamespage> zul: ack - sure
[16:04] <jamespage> upstreamable?
[16:05] <zul> jamespage: yeah but they might not take it
[16:05] <zul> *shudder* containers *shudder*
[18:01] <Pici> 6/70
[18:14] <marlinc> What would be the recommended way to automatically run 'apt-get update' on a server. We use Zabbix to monitor updates using /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check but as expected it doesn't actually go about and get new package lists
[18:17] <sarnold> marlinc: the unattended-upgrades package is easy to install, something like landscape might give better reporting if you've got a lot of machines, but that's commercial..
[18:17] <marlinc> The thing is, we don't want automatic installing of updates, just the checking for updates
[18:18] <sarnold> iirc unattended updates can be configured to check, or check and download, or check, download, and install.
[18:18] <ogra_> apt-get aupdate cant really harm your system ... why not just use a good old cronjob
[18:18] <ogra_> let it run once a day and be done ...
[18:19] <sarnold> heh, indeed, simplicity :)
[18:19] <marlinc> The thing is that I do know that apt has 'APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists'
[18:19] <bekks> And run apt-get -s install ... to see wether the updates can be installed.
[18:20] <marlinc> But I'm not sure if it works by default or that its something being added by unattended-upgrades. What runs apt so that it can do those automatic updates
[19:24] <teward> sarnold: ping - does the security team really have any opinion as to what we do with nginx, other than your take on it?
[19:24] <teward> (and by 'we' i mean the server team)
[19:25] <sarnold> teward: I don't think the others have looked at it yet
[19:26] <sarnold> teward: between our backlog of security fixes and new features needed for snappy, we're feeling a bit overworked lately, so I haven't bothered any of them about it
[19:28] <teward> sarnold: no problem.
[19:28] <teward> sarnold: i have a feeling that closer to LTS it'll be a bigger issue
[19:28] <teward> sarnold: i have a feeling that closer to LTS it'll be a bigger issue
[19:28] <teward> bah
[19:28] <teward> was merely curious*
[19:28]  * teward kicks his laptop from here to /dev/null and back
[19:28] <sarnold> teward: it could be, but thankfully it's just one package, and upstream folks seem above average. :) hehe.
[19:29] <teward> sarnold: indeed.  we also have someone at nginx willing to assist with security backports too which makes life a little more easier xD
[19:29] <sarnold> teward: nice!
[19:42] <trippeh> PSA: Intel 750 NVMe SSD's are ridiculously fast.
[19:43] <sarnold> trippeh: how does it show up to the OS? /dev/sd*? or something else?
[19:44] <trippeh> sarnold: /dev/nvme0n1
[19:44] <sarnold> trippeh: can you use those for zfs? :)
[19:45] <trippeh> and like 8 "irq"'s
[19:45] <trippeh> hehe, it does behave like a block device
[19:45] <trippeh> so it should...
[19:46] <trippeh> unless zfs is beeing weird
[20:44] <b4tm4n> any good recommendations or guides on using ubuntu server as a router
[20:46] <genii> b4tm4n: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[20:47] <b4tm4n> exactly what i was reading - just making sure there wasn't somethign else
[20:47] <genii> b4tm4n: Pretty much everything that is already in the ubuntu server documentation applies as is
[20:48] <b4tm4n> would you recommend shorewall?
[20:51] <genii> I haven't used it so I can't offer an opinion about it