[02:50] <actionparsnip> Brandy: crossover does cost though
[02:50] <Guest44248> hello. I just installed ubuntu and everything works well, except for the fullscreen mode of youtube and other videos on the internet. Can anybody help me? I have a graphics card (nvidia) and it's supported and drivers are installed. The little mode works perfect. Fullscreen of downloaded videos works well.
[02:51] <actionparsnip> Brandy: check the crossover compatibility sheet
[02:51] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: exact words: "You have just inserted a medium with digital photos.  Choose what application to launch"
[02:51] <sander__> Anyone know how I can make sure I'm using an apt repository right?
[02:51] <random314> Brandy: In my experience using Crossover Office it has worked perfectly.  The only thing about Crossover is that it is a paid program.
[02:51] <xangua> Guest44248: that's a common issue with adobe flash plugin, not ubuntu
[02:51] <rodolfo> yes
[02:51] <rodolfo> but only when i open the folder
[02:51] <Guest44248> xangua: is there some workaround or anything I can do?
[02:51] <Brandy> about how mutch
[02:51] <KE1HA> sander__, comment out all but the PPA repo that you want in your source list.
[02:52] <w1n5ton> I think it's screwed up because the battery died in the middle of an upgrade
[02:52] <actionparsnip> Guest44248: may help: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/fixing-fullscreen-flash-in-ubuntu-1004.html
[02:52] <KE1HA> make sure you add the Ley in System->Administration->Software Sources
[02:52] <rodolfo> and it says if i want to open f-spot
[02:52] <KE1HA> opps the Key
[02:52] <KE1HA> On the Auth TAB
[02:52] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: okay and in nautilus (on the desktop that is) can you go to and 'open' the iPod as though it were a drive?
[02:52] <Brandy> i love linus so far,,i have no problem until now that i want to back up
[02:52] <Brandy> why is that so hard to do ?
[02:52] <hiexpo> key is important
[02:52] <Guest44248> thanks a lot for this very fast answer. I'll try this out :)
[02:52] <actionparsnip> w1n5ton: boot to livecd, chroot to the installed system and run: sudo apt-get -f install
[02:53] <random314> Brandy: Crossover Linux: $39.95 Standardm $69.95 Pro. $USD Go to: http://www.codeweavers.com
[02:53] <Brandy> ok
[02:53] <KE1HA> Brandy, Just copy the VM directory to a new location. Problem solved, then Burn A DVD or somethign if you really want security
[02:53] <sander__> KE1HA, Found http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid/main Packages
[02:53] <w1n5ton> It boots
[02:53] <sander__> KE1HA, Found http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Packages
[02:53] <w1n5ton> It it's just acting funny
[02:53] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: for me i can see the iPod by its name under the 'Places' menu.  Can you?
[02:53] <actionparsnip> Guest44248: basically you want OverrideGPUValidation = 1   in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg
[02:53] <rodolfo> yes
[02:53] <Brandy> jajaja thas funny
[02:53] <Brandy> well
[02:53] <sander__> KE1HA, I also got: Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/ppa/ubuntu/ lucid/main Translation-nb
[02:54] <Brandy> can i boot a live vertion of linux
[02:54] <etrask> Hello, I need to find out the brand and model of mouse embedded in my laptop using Ubuntu
[02:54] <Brandy> and create a iso from my hard  disk
[02:54] <arrrghhh> Brandy, it's not very simple.
[02:54] <actionparsnip> Brandy: you can use partimage to make a disk image
[02:54] <KE1HA> sander__, ad the one you want, comment out those your dont, add the Auth Key's as stated earlier.
[02:54] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: Great!  Thats means you're past some of the most difficult challenges already.  So what happens when you open Rythmbox?
[02:54] <arrrghhh> Brandy, or clonezilla.  or even better spool up an amahi server - but you need another rig for that!
[02:54] <hiexpo> lsusb
[02:54] <Brandy> is a 160GB drive
[02:55] <Brandy> i have no place to put that
[02:55] <Brandy> i need a system image
[02:55] <arrrghhh> Brandy, exactly.
[02:55] <rodolfo> let me see
[02:55] <sander__> KE1HA, I've done that.. And the add-apt-repository already added the auto key's
[02:55] <Brandy> now is about 20 GB im using
[02:55] <sander__> auth*
[02:55] <arrrghhh> Brandy, we gave some suggestions.
[02:55] <KE1HA> Is it causing you issues then ?
[02:55] <random314> Brandy: A full disc image backup would take a long time to do and you would have to do it everytime you changed your files.  If you just want a base image then fine but if your looking to back-up your files as you go then a full disk image is not suitable.
[02:55] <arrrghhh> Brandy, clonezilla, partimage
[02:55] <anthony_> hi guys i have a problem i can mount my external drive can any one help me. i don't know what to do. pls help me. im new to linux.
[02:56] <actionparsnip> anthony_: you dont mount drives, you mount partitions
[02:56] <arrrghhh> anthony_, soooo it's usb?  you plug it in, what happens?
[02:56] <KE1HA> sander__, Here's a simple How-To for repos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[02:56] <Brandy> i have clonezilla in a multy boot pendrive
[02:56] <arrrghhh> actionparsnip, c'mon guy :P
[02:56] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: When i open rhythmbox, on the lefthand side down the page listed under 'Devices' is my ipod.  How about you?
[02:56] <Brandy> i try
[02:56] <rodolfo> no i opened songbird
[02:56] <Brandy> but need more time to understand
[02:56] <Brandy> im so desparete do do this
[02:56] <rodolfo> i have to install rithmbox
[02:56] <Brandy> i came for help
[02:56] <actionparsnip> anthony_: can you use http://pastie.org   to give the output of:  sudo fdisk -l; mount    thanks
[02:56] <arrrghhh> Brandy, it's not very easy.
[02:56] <actionparsnip> arrrghhh: its a fact
[02:56] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: its on 10.04 by default
[02:57] <arrrghhh> actionparsnip, i know, but he's a newb.  go a little easy on him will ya?
[02:57] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: are you on 10.04?
[02:57] <Brandy> well i guess i cant back up linux
[02:57] <rodolfo> no
[02:57] <actionparsnip> arrrghhh: i was easy, i simply informed of the facts
[02:57] <anthony_> i can't mount any of my external partition. can any one help me.
[02:57] <Brandy> just what the system brings
[02:57] <arrrghhh> Brandy, that's right.  you just _can't_.
[02:57] <hiexpo> anything in life is worth time  !linux
[02:57] <Brandy> no good about linux
[02:57] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[02:57] <rodolfo> on 9.14
[02:58] <arrrghhh> actionparsnip, alrighty, i'll drop it...
[02:58] <Brandy> it will be a nice suggestion fot the developers
[02:58] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: you mean 9.04 or 9.10?
[02:58] <epinky> w1n5ton: how does it look now?
[02:58] <random314> Brandy: All your files on Linux (the ones not in the Windows guest) are in your /home/USERNAME folder.  That is ideally all you should be backing up.  Everything else is easy to just reinstall if you have to!
[02:58] <|enigma|> hi guys I have csv log file but I need to look at those logs, but it is more than 100MB so cat is best but I need to filter from starting number such as 1 or 2, or 3 etc..
[02:58] <actionparsnip> anthony_: if you give teh paste, we can advise. run the command, copy the text, paste to the pastebin and hit the paste button. When the page changes, copy the new address in the address bar and paste in here
[02:58] <|enigma|> how can I do that
[02:58] <hiexpo> Rudemeister,  9.14
[02:58] <rkirmizi> is there anyway 2 disable services from startup (like apache mysql-server)
[02:58] <rodolfo> sorry
[02:58] <Brandy> i personally think is the bes suggestion ever for linus systems
[02:58] <arrrghhh> Brandy, what make bit-for-bit copies easier?  no body really uses them.
[02:58] <rodolfo> 9.10
[02:58] <Brandy> nop inside the machine
[02:58] <hiexpo> mean oops 9.10
[02:58] <w1n5ton> Running partial upgrade trying to clean it up first
[02:59] <arrrghhh> Brandy, that wasn't a complete sentence.
[02:59] <katoen> |enigma|: those lines start with numbers?
[02:59] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: okay, that should work.  9.10 has a lot of similarity to 10.04 (not everything, but many things similar)
[02:59] <random314> Brandy: Again with Crossover (or WINE for free and more complicated) all your files would be in your /home folder so would be simple to just back up those files.
[02:59] <|enigma|> yeap
[02:59] <epinky> w1n5ton: screenshot of phpmyadmin?
[02:59] <rodolfo> ok
[02:59] <Brandy> well the files in the windows side are insede the windows side
[02:59] <|enigma|> some start with 1,
[02:59] <|enigma|> then 2, 3, 4 up to 10
[02:59] <KE1HA> arrrghhh, rsync the folder offsite, then do incremental backups, keeping the inital a ful backup.
[02:59] <Brandy> i dont know how to see my files from linux side
[02:59] <w1n5ton> phpmyadmin?
[02:59] <arrrghhh> rodolfo, i may be pokin the fire, but why aren't you running 10.04?  they just releaed .1 :D
[02:59] <actionparsnip> !boot | rkirmizi
[02:59] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: if you go under 'Sound and Video' is Rhythmbox there?
[02:59] <Brandy> from windows
[02:59] <arrrghhh> KE1HA, but that's not bit-for-bit.  what about my MBR?
[03:00] <random314> Brandy: Because you're using a virtual machine, all your little files to back up and hidden inside one big file of the virtual machine.  That complicates backing them up.
[03:00] <rodolfo> no
[03:00] <arrrghhh> Brandy, you have you share them.
[03:00] <KE1HA> On the VM it would be, not the Host OS, no.
[03:00] <nUboon2Age> I'm asking about Rhythmbox just because i'm familiar with it and its a default program. rodolfo
[03:00] <arrrghhh> KE1HA, oh i thought we were still talking about host&guest.
[03:00] <epinky> w1n5ton: that was the link about? wasn't it?
[03:00] <Brandy> thats ok i keep working like that VM is just foe work
[03:01] <w1n5ton> No
[03:01] <jguzikowski> If I want to completely skin gnome, what am I looking for? a gtk+ theme?
[03:01] <rodolfo> im installing it
[03:01] <KE1HA> The Host needs a diffrent solution, Ghost, Raid, SAN, Etc.
[03:01] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: okay well when you start Songbird do you find your iPod listed?  (i'm not familiar with it so i'm in the dark here)
 any idea
[03:01] <w1n5ton> it was just a screenshot of what I want the tabs to look like
[03:01] <rodolfo> no
[03:01] <Brandy> and i save them somewhere else too just in case
[03:01] <arrrghhh> KE1HA, agreed :D
[03:01] <w1n5ton> brb
[03:01] <w1n5ton> gonna reboot
[03:01] <linguini> How can I force a certain Mode/ModeLine to be used when starting X?
[03:01] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: oh, you're installing Rhythmbox now?
[03:01] <linguini> In particular, X is choosing 1600x1200, which is invalid for my monitor.
[03:02] <actionparsnip> linguini: if you set an xorg.conf you can set the leftmost value in xorg.conf
[03:02] <random314> Brandy: You can email the critical files to back up to yourself (get a gmail account for lots of storage) AND IF you have the Virtual Box, NOT Virtual Box OSE installed then you can backup your work files to a flash drive too.  Virtual Box OSE doesn't have USB support for flash drives.
[03:02] <rodolfo> yes
[03:02] <arrrghhh> Brandy, you can also share files between linux host and windows guest.
[03:02] <actionparsnip> random314: you can share the mounted folder as a folder in vbox to get round though :)
[03:02] <arrrghhh> obviously that doesn't secure you againt a hdd failure.
[03:02] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: okay and i'm also installing Songbird...
[03:02] <linguini> actionparsnip, Set the leftmost value?
[03:02] <random314> Brandy: Yes, to share files install the "Guest Additions" inside of your Windows guest.
[03:02] <Brandy> i manage to use my pendrives in virtualbox
[03:03] <Brandy> i have the 3.2.6
[03:03] <Brandy> vertion
[03:03] <linguini> actionparsnip, I am trying to write an xorg.conf file because my monitor has a bad EDID (apparently).
[03:03] <anthony_> about my problem this is the error  "You are not privileged to mount the volume 'Elements'" pls help me fix this error.
[03:03] <jguzikowski> If I want to completely skin gnome, what am I looking for? a gtk+ theme? metacity? gnome-look is confusing the hell out of me
[03:03] <rodolfo> i finished
[03:03] <arrrghhh> Brandy, it's the OSE (open source ed.) is the one that doesn't have usb drivers, or RDP.
[03:03] <random314> Brandy: If you can use a pendrive then I'm certain you have the full Virtual Box installed and not Virtual Box OpenSourceEdition
[03:03] <actionparsnip> linguini: yes, you will define resolutions in xorg.conf, the leftmost is the default. alternatively you can set an xrandr command to set the res at logon
[03:03] <Brandy> and also installed a guest that alloud me to use with out capturing the mouse
[03:03] <actionparsnip> linguini: yeah some do
[03:03] <linguini> actionparsnip, leftmost of what?
[03:03] <random314> Brandy: Ok, I thought OSE didn't have USB - You know better since your using it!
[03:03] <Brandy> it is the opensource one
[03:03] <linguini> actionparsnip, I will paste my current xorg.conf...
[03:03] <actionparsnip> linguini: the modes in the display section
[03:04] <actionparsnip> linguini: if you wanna
[03:04] <arrrghhh> Brandy, not if USB is working on the guest...
[03:04] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: okay when you open RB do you see your iPod listed under 'Devices' on the left?
[03:04] <Brandy> Oracle VM virtualbox
[03:04] <Brandy> 3.2.6
[03:04] <Brandy> if u have that i can tell u how to use pendrives
[03:04] <arrrghhh> Brandy, yes, and there's 2 versions.  closed & open source - the closed source ed has additional features like usb and rdp.
[03:04] <Brandy> in ur vm
[03:04] <arrrghhh> oy ve.
[03:04] <rodolfo> no
[03:05] <random314> Brandy: If a pendrive is working for you, that is a good solution!  Seriously, backing up to a pendrive is a decent way to go about it!
[03:05] <Brandy> i manage to use USB on the opensource one,just doing researchs online
[03:05] <actionparsnip> Brandy: just use a dropbox, makes life easier
[03:05] <Brandy> i know,,thats daily bases for me
[03:05] <anthony_> actionparsnip:  about my problem this is the error  "You are not privileged to mount the volume 'Elements'" pls help me fix this error.
[03:05] <itsTodd> I'm going to be running a stable version of Ubuntu Server on Rackspace Cloud to host a web application of mine. What is the best way to keep up with security patches etc..? Is that something to worry about?
[03:05] <w1n5ton> the partial updater fixed it
[03:05] <Brandy> dont trust computers no more
[03:05] <random314> Brandy: But JUST backing up your work files, not the complete disc image.
[03:05] <nUboon2Age> On top is Library with several items, then Stores with several items, then Devices, then Playlists
[03:05] <etrask> hello how can I get hardware device information in Ubuntu?
[03:06] <sander__> KE1HA, I know that stuff about repos.. Here i've done the exact same thing on both my ubuntu desktop 64bit systems: http://pastebin.com/7zkRLKCG
[03:06] <actionparsnip> anthony_: can you give a pastebin of the output of the command I gave please
[03:06] <nUboon2Age> On top is Library with several items, then Stores with several items, then Devices, then Playlists rodolfo
[03:06] <Brandy> how about backup my softwares
[03:06] <sander__> KE1HA, still diffrent result.
[03:06] <Brandy> si if any i can have them back up
[03:06] <Brandy> i have almost all linux distros here live cds
[03:06] <linguini> actionparsnip, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/UYpcWHVh
[03:06] <actionparsnip> Brandy: i doubt that very highly
[03:06] <Brandy> but softwares not a single one
[03:06] <rkirmizi> actionparsnip, thx :D
[03:06] <anthony_> i already paste it.
[03:06] <arrrghhh> Brandy, we gave you solutions for that!  rsync if you don't want bit-for-bit, partimage, clonezilla etc for if you do!
[03:07] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: are you seeing all that in the upper lefthand side?
[03:07] <rodolfo> is device menu
[03:07] <KE1HA> sander__, what do you mean, diffrent results, what is tha ACTUALLY FAULT OR PROBLEM UR TRYING TO SOLVE THEN ?
[03:07] <random314> Brandy: Software is better to just reinstall.  It can be time consuming if you have to install the host OS first THEN install a guest OS BUT your system shouldn't need that very often at all.  Once it's set up you're usually good to just use it indefinitely.
[03:07] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: please go on...
[03:07] <actionparsnip> linguini: in the subsections in the screen section you define modes there too
[03:07] <rww> itsTodd: subscribe to https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-security-announce
[03:07] <linguini> actionparsnip, I created the xorg.conf file by doing: Xorg :1 -configure
[03:07] <rodolfo> oh, no sorry there is not device menu
[03:07] <Brandy> well what about a list that runs on terminal with all my softwares
[03:07] <linguini> actionparsnip, (and then editing...)
[03:07] <sander__> KE1HA, I'm trying to reinstall the xbmc packages.. since I had an svn apt mirror.. I want to install the packages from the stable mirror
[03:07] <rafiyr> where does one set global search domains without having to add them to each connection in nm?
[03:07] <etrask> hello how can I get hardware device information in Ubuntu?
[03:08] <itsTodd> rww: thank you
[03:08] <Brandy> so they can be installed
[03:08] <maco> etrask: sudo lshw
[03:08] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: so you see the Library, Stores, Playlists? but no Devices?
[03:08] <anthony_>  actionparsnip: this is what popup 'You are not privileged to mount the volume 'Elements'
[03:08] <rodolfo> there are other 3 menus
[03:08] <Brandy> via terminal
[03:08] <sander__> KE1HA, means.. "downgrading" a package version.
[03:08] <arrrghhh> Brandy, listen to random314 he speaks wisdom.  most people don't need bit-for-bit copies because complete hard drive failures are rare, and bit-for-bit copies are freaking annoying.
[03:08] <rodolfo> yes
[03:08] <etrask> maco that didn't give me what I needed, I need to know the brand and model of embedded mousepad on my laptop :(
[03:08] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: okay
[03:08] <KE1HA> Yeah, that's a whoel diffrent kettle of fish.
[03:08] <sander__> KE1HA, from 1:10.08~svn32246-lucid1 to 1:9.11-lucid2
[03:08] <actionparsnip> anthony_: I can't advise til you give me the output of the commands: sudo fdisk -l; mount    use http://pastie.org to give the output
[03:08] <sander__> KE1HA, if thats possible..
[03:09] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: okay, that's interesting/annoying. :/
[03:09] <Brandy> i need security on linux
[03:09] <KE1HA> All things are "Possible" thing is, whats required to achieve it.
[03:09] <Brandy> so i can feel good about it
[03:09] <actionparsnip> linguini: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/BbREXYb0
[03:09] <Brandy> i dont want to worried
[03:09] <arrrghhh> KE1HA, can i make my nissan maxima all wheel drive twin turbo rb26?  sure.  $$$ will get you there.  sorry i had to.
[03:09] <rafiyr> :q
[03:09] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: I'm starting Songbird now to see where it is in there...
[03:10] <actionparsnip> linguini: obviously change the resolutions to ones you want to use
[03:10] <arrrghhh> Brandy, then backup your essential files, the ones you can't recreate.  software is easily reinstalled.
[03:10] <VS-> I uhh... need some help installing :(
[03:10] <rodolfo> ok
[03:10] <KE1HA> sander__, I must say, Im not the best expert on downgrading, but will have a nose around and see what I can find.
[03:10] <Brandy> ok i do that
[03:10] <actionparsnip> Brandy: then use sudo as little as possible, default settings are ok
[03:10] <Brandy> mabe i need a Terrabite
[03:10] <arrrghhh> Brandy, then there's nothing to worry about!
[03:10] <jguzikowski> anyone know any good gnome themes that have very 'thin' window headers? the defaults of ubuntu are so damn huge it covers up so much of my netbooks screen
[03:10] <anthony_> this is the output "Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>6 bytes
[03:10] <anthony_> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[03:10] <anthony_> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[03:10] <anthony_> Disk identifier: 0x638edad0
[03:10] <anthony_>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[03:10] <FloodBot3> anthony_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:10] <anthony_> /dev/sda1               1        3824    30716248+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[03:11] <KwikkSilva> Can anyone heklp me with an Ubuntu Remote Desktop resolution problem? Can't get more than 800x600 on 10.04
[03:11] <actionparsnip> anthony_: use http://pastie.org to give the output, is what I said twice...
[03:11] <sander__> KE1HA, kinda strange that it says: #
[03:11] <sander__> Reinstallation of xbmc is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[03:11] <Brandy> i have full screen on remote desktop
[03:11] <epinky> KwikkSilva: "from" or "to" ?
[03:12] <Brandy> on a Acer 5315 Piece of @#$%^ computer
[03:12] <Brandy> im sure u can pal
[03:12] <rodolfo> it says library, downloads, playlists and favorites
[03:12] <arrrghhh> Brandy, that's quite an attitude!
[03:12] <actionparsnip> Brandy: bet its better than anything i have
[03:12] <Brandy> are u using the sotware the machine brings to do that
[03:12] <KwikkSilva> epinky, I'm trying to get from 800x600 to something higher - monitor can take 1920x1080
[03:13] <arrrghhh> KwikkSilva, you're using vino... or what?
[03:13] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: i'm checking it out now but i haven't found the 'devices' part yet.
[03:13] <actionparsnip> KwikkSilva: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[03:13] <KwikkSilva> tightvnc viewer
[03:13] <anthony_> actionparsnip: i cannot access that website http://pastie.org
[03:13] <epinky> KwikkSilva: I meant the RDP is from or to?
[03:13] <actionparsnip> anthony_: try: http://pastebin.ca/
[03:14] <KwikkSilva> actionparsnip, 00:04.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27)
[03:14] <etrask> is there a simple command to list the brand/model of hardware on my machine?
[03:14] <Brandy> try using remote desktop viewer
[03:14] <sander__> KE1HA, This did it :-): apt-get --reinstall install xbmc=1:9.11-lucid2 xbmc-bin=1:9.11-lucid2 xbmc-data=1:9.11-lucid2 xbmc-skin-confluence=1:9.11-lucid2
[03:14] <etrask> lspci and lshw don't help me :-/
[03:14] <Brandy> the one the Ubuntu Brings
[03:14] <koshari> etrask lspci
[03:15] <actionparsnip> KwikkSilva: ok then use that to find guides. search for: ubuntu VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27)
[03:15] <koshari> etrask what particuly are oyu looking for
[03:15] <KwikkSilva> Brandy - i'm coming from Win XP
[03:15] <jguzikowski> anyone know any good gnome themes that have very 'thin' window headers? the defaults of ubuntu are so damn huge it covers up so much of my netbooks screen
[03:15] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: i think i figured out what's going on...
[03:15] <KE1HA> sander__, what was the result ?
[03:15] <actionparsnip> jguzikowski: are you using compiz?
[03:15] <etrask> koshari I need to know the brand/model of the crappy little mousepad embedded in my laptop
[03:15] <jguzikowski> actionparsnip, not really sure..whatever is default on gnome
[03:16] <Taev> hey Im having a problem getting a TCL script to work its saying " [Discogs] Failed to load: version conflict for package "http": have 2.5.3, need 2.7.1"
[03:16] <actionparsnip> jguzikowski: do you have 3d accelleration enabled?
[03:16] <Brandy> in a virtual machine insede linux
[03:16] <arrrghhh> KwikkSilva, excuse my ignorance, but does mstsc work with it?
[03:16] <Brandy> or just XP
[03:16] <Taev> what is package http? when i search for http under synaptics it doesn't show anything
[03:16] <VS-> I have an operating system-less drive, and when I boot the Ubuntu CD, I get to a prompt... What can I do?
[03:16] <rodolfo> what?
[03:16] <jguzikowski> actionparsnip, i don't think so
[03:16] <koshari> etrask try lsusb, it may be a usb device
[03:16] <arrrghhh> Taev, there is no http package, what do you need??  apache?
[03:16] <Alias> anybody tried android development>
[03:16] <lexmarkhelp> has anyone gotten LEXMARK X5470 Printer to work?
[03:16] <Taev> thats what it says
[03:17] <VS-> Also, I encounter an "unexpectedly disconnected from boot status daemon" error.
[03:17] <Taev> HTTP Package 2.7.1.
[03:17] <sander__> KE1HA, obs.. seems like an install error.. I'll try to --purge the package and install it.
[03:17] <actionparsnip> jguzikowski: you can install emerald and get a thinner window decorator, if you dont use 3D accelleration you can install openbox and it will be thinner
[03:17] <arrrghhh> VS-, sounds lik your bios isn't booting from the cd
[03:17] <arrrghhh> Taev, uhm... why?
[03:17] <KE1HA> yes, autoclean, purege, clean would be wise.
[03:17] <Taev> i have no idea, heres what i get when i try and add the TCL script
[03:17] <Taev> " [Discogs] Failed to load: version conflict for package "http": have 2.5.3, need 2.7.1"
[03:17] <jguzikowski> actionparsnip, okay thanks..im not so good with mixing windows managers
[03:18] <KwikkSilva> arrrghhh, nope
[03:18] <abhijit> !ptinter | lexmarkhelp
[03:18] <etrask> koshari it lists my normal USB mouse but everything else says Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[03:18] <abhijit> !ptint | lexmarkhelp
[03:18] <arrrghhh> KwikkSilva, ah, it was worth a shot :P  are you sure it's not a limitation in tight or anything like that?
[03:18] <KwikkSilva> Brandy, Ubuntu is running on a Dell 650 Server, XP is running on my laptop
[03:18] <abhijit> !print | lexmarkhelp
[03:18] <abhijit> :)
[03:18] <arrrghhh> Taev, what are you doing?   TCL script?
[03:18] <koshari> etrask googling the model may be an alternative,
[03:18] <KwikkSilva> arrrghhh, pretty sure i think its server side - i've read alot of posts
[03:19] <arrrghhh> KwikkSilva, well maybe it's a limitation of the server.
[03:19] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: here's something on songbird/ipod compatibility: http://getsatisfaction.com/songbird/topics/sync_songs_to_ipod?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=widget_songbird
[03:19] <mkquist> 10.4 reinstall, no sound, worked fine before, still works in windows... machine 'sees' the soundcard, but in sound preferences there is no hardware, lspci -v shows the card, but capabilites 'denied access'... any ideas?
[03:19] <Brandy>  ok
[03:19] <etrask> koshari ... that was simpler than it had to be. Thanks a bunch :P
[03:19] <Taev> ok i think its talking about a http package for the source tcl program
[03:19] <Taev> thanks anyways guys
[03:19] <actionparsnip> !sound | mkquist
[03:19] <KwikkSilva> arrrghhh, i'd be surprised - surely it can do better than 800x600
[03:19] <lexmarkhelp> I have tried using CUPS, but that doesn't work. When I got to printing, ubuntu detects the printer but deosnt print.
[03:19] <VS-> I'm pretty sure it may be related to the "Error: unexpectedly disconected from boot status daemon".
[03:20] <actionparsnip> KwikkSilva: it can, it just needs some config
[03:20] <arrrghhh> KwikkSilva, lol you never know.  what's the host set to?
[03:20] <samII> hi
[03:20] <mkquist> actionparsnip: yeah, already been there, just looking for other thoughts
[03:20] <KwikkSilva> actionparsnip, yeah i had a look around and there was mention of xconf
[03:20] <sander__> KE1HA, worked.. after I did apt-get remove --purge
[03:20] <actionparsnip> mkquist: run alsamixer in terminal, make sure all is cranked. Just because the chip is seen doesnt mean its configured
[03:20] <KwikkSilva> but people reckoned it screwed their settings
[03:20] <actionparsnip> KwikkSilva: then you will need to form an xorg.conf then
[03:20] <KE1HA> lexmarkhelp, Lexmark is not well suppirted on any linux distribution, I've found very few sucess cases using their printers on Linux.
[03:21] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: on Rhythmbox i think there's a library that needs to be installed for RB to work with it.  I'm not sure if it works on 9.10/Karmic... let me check...
[03:21] <Brandy> tri using ImInTouc to view ur destops on XP
[03:21] <lexmarkhelp> It worked when I used opensuse
[03:21] <sander__> KE1HA, thansk for the help tho.. to clearify the problem.
[03:21] <KE1HA> sander__, you should write upa "How-Too" for others wanting to do the same things.
[03:21] <Brandy> Im In Touch ups
[03:21] <Brandy> it is free
[03:21] <arrrghhh> lexmarkhelp, unfortunately KE1HA isn't joking.  i always buy hp printers for that reason.  and if that's the case then why not use opensuse?
[03:21] <rodolfo> it says songbird is not compatible since last year
[03:21] <[ZoD]Phantom> i have the "mount of root file system failed" how can i restore it?
[03:21] <linguini> actionparsnip, Thanks, seems to work!
[03:21] <actionparsnip> KwikkSilva: then their files were bad
[03:22] <mrconnerton> How can I run update-grub from a live cd, with the harddrive of the ubuntu installation I want to modify mounted
[03:22] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: i'm not sure but the library might be the one listed under 'ipod' in Synaptic.  Do you have that?
[03:22] <samII> :-*
[03:22] <rodolfo> yes
[03:22] <Brandy> ok guys thenks for all
[03:23] <Brandy> i preciate all ur hel
[03:23] <lexmarkhelp> Oh, I see. I will buy an HP one next.
[03:23] <KE1HA> arrrghhh, cuz its an Ugly "Green" .. LOL
[03:23] <[ZoD]Phantom> i have the "mount of root file system failed" how can i fix this?
[03:23] <KwikkSilva> actionparsnip, is there a default xorg.conf i can use?
[03:23] <KwikkSilva> i found one - but i have no idea idf its going to hose the system
[03:23] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: try installling it and then restart RB and see if that shows your iPod then...
[03:24] <arrrghhh> KE1HA, yea but if it works with your printer... haha
[03:24] <actionparsnip> KwikkSilva: you can generate one in root recovery mode by running: Xorg --configure    you can then pad it from there
[03:24] <KE1HA> Not Mine, there all HP's, "Always" .. :-)
[03:24] <Dist`> is there a way I can 'restart' the ubuntu desktop without effecting the firefox downloasd I have running?
[03:24] <actionparsnip> KwikkSilva: you will need to reboot to get back to desktop
[03:24] <arrrghhh> KE1HA, ditto.
[03:24] <actionparsnip> Dist`: no, cant think of any way
[03:24] <Dist`> bah :(
[03:24] <arrrghhh> we use all HP at work, they are fantastic printers.
[03:25] <Dist`> my desktop is 'frozen', I can't even open folders through the panel at the top of my screen
[03:25] <rodolfo> ok
[03:25] <inktri> is it possible to download packages that exist on my laptop onto my desktop (which does not have internet access)?
[03:25] <rodolfo> i restart the computer?
[03:25] <rodolfo> or rithmbox?
[03:25] <KE1HA> Dist`, I dont think so, if you kill-X, it's going to gill any apps running onit, however, your download manager should pickup where it left off on resume.
[03:25] <Alias> Anyone good with Inkscape?
[03:26] <VS-> Also, arrrghhhm, it does boot, it just gets to this prompt with sudo, etc.
[03:26] <KwikkSilva> actionparsnip, i have no way of getting a monitor to thsi machine tonight so maybe i should hold off messing with it
[03:26] <KwikkSilva> need monitor for recoevery mode right?
[03:26] <Dist`> KE1HA unfortunately some of my downloads I have running are from websites that implement a 'queue'ing system where by if the download stops, you have to queue again and are given a new download link, which screws up resuming
[03:26] <Dist`> i guess my only option is to wait untill downloads finish and do a restart
[03:26] <guille1983> hey I tried to load the installer and it failed, it says it will load a default desktop session but it asks for a user and password. What is the default user/password ?
[03:27] <KE1HA> Bummer, know how that is, ya gotta get back in line, that sux.
[03:27] <Dist`> bit of a shame, in windows you can just kill explorer and start it again
[03:27] <arrrghhh> inktri, get debs?  i think there's a way.  can't remember.  google.
[03:27] <actionparsnip> KwikkSilva: no worries dude, smoe cards dont pick up automagicaqlly and canonical seem to thing udev can find all but it doesnt, an xorg.conf file is often needed but lucid doesn't ship with one by default
[03:27] <Dist`> oh well, thanks anyway
[03:27] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: install the ipod package and then restart Rhythmbox.  i don't think you'll need to restart computer, but if it doesn't work immediately try rebooting.
[03:28] <rodolfo> ok
[03:28] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: then if that doesn't work i found an alternative method:    http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/easy-way-to-sync-your-iphone-with.html
[03:28] <KE1HA> Alias, dont know about Inkscape, but another good Vector Graphics package in Blender :-)
[03:28] <perlsyntax> How do i check to see what sound baster sound card i have?
[03:28] <RandyRKelly> Hello help
[03:28] <[ZoD]Phantom> how do i start x from a shell?
[03:28] <arrrghhh> xstart
[03:29] <arrrghhh> or /etc/init.d/gdm start
[03:29] <RandyRKelly> How do I connect to.wireless
[03:29] <perlsyntax> does anyone know how to look up my sound card i got??
[03:29] <KE1HA> perlsyntax, yank the chip and look on the package :-) ... kjust kidding, LSPCI should say.
[03:29] <arrrghhh> RandyRKelly, depends on your card, can you pastebin lsusb and lspci?
[03:29] <perlsyntax> you mean lspci
[03:29] <arrrghhh> sorry that's startx
[03:29] <RandyRKelly> New to Ubuntu
[03:29] <KE1HA> rrr yes, sri
[03:29] <arrrghhh> isn't that what i said?
[03:29] <[ZoD]Phantom> arrrghhh im at root@user-desktop
[03:30] <arrrghhh> did you try either of those?
[03:30] <actionparsnip> perlsyntax: sudo lshw -C sound
[03:30] <KE1HA> I put mine in CAPS as Im not to smart that way :-)
[03:30] <[ZoD]Phantom> arrrghhh and i tried xstart and nothing no command found
[03:30] <arrrghhh> [ZoD]Phantom, sorry startx
[03:30] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: and that way says they tested with Karmic/9.10 so that should work.  There are many programs to work w/ music and ipod, but of  course its challenging to work with iPod because Apple keeps changing things with their firmware, etc. that makes it hard to keep compatibility working (as the post re: Songbird said.  Finally Songbird stopped trying it looks like).  But i'm sure there'll be several different programs that will
[03:30] <nUboon2Age> work.
[03:30] <actionparsnip> RandyRKelly: run: sudo lshw -C network     what is the product line in your wireless device
[03:31] <rodolfo> yes
[03:31] <actionparsnip> rodolfo: nUboon2Age http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/sync-iphone-and-ipod-touch-in-ubuntu.html
[03:31] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, have a go at: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:31] <KE1HA> then startx
[03:31] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA im having a main problem first:
[03:32] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA i have the "mount of root file system failed" how can i fix this?
[03:32] <KE1HA> but save your xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak or somethign first.
[03:32] <picard1421> hey guys is there a good guide on setting up an openVPN connection to tunnel ALLL data through a VPN?
[03:32] <picard1421> basically if its not going through the VPN then no data goes through at all? what would be the procedure for setting that up
[03:32] <Guest98392> What is the best IRC chat program for linux?
[03:32] <RandyRKelly> Well give me a min
[03:32] <arrrghhh> Guest98392, i like xchat.
[03:32] <actionparsnip> Guest98392: there is no best IRC app.
[03:32] <uRock> gnome-xchat
[03:32] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, Hmm, what happened that caused that ?
[03:32] <Corsairs> or Konversation
[03:32] <actionparsnip> Guest98392: there is no best anything in life
[03:33] <actionparsnip> !irc | Guest98392
[03:33] <uRock> chatzilla works decently
[03:33] <Guest21090> is dsl based on ubuntu
[03:33] <arrrghhh> actionparsnip, lol your comments are awesome.
[03:33] <picard1421> anybody?
[03:33] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA no idea, my cousin uses the pc
[03:33] <actionparsnip> arrrghhh: it just really baffles me how people can even concieve a universal "best" of anything
[03:33] <abhijit_> !openvpn | picard1421
[03:33] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, have you looked at your FSTAB  .. ?
[03:34] <arrrghhh> actionparsnip, i know.  but i'm constantly googling "best of ..." to see what people *think* is the best.  then i make my own conclusion based on my needs/wants.
[03:34] <KE1HA> fixing X-org is secondary at this point.
[03:34] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA tahts what im looking at but i have no idea what all that means
[03:34] <uRock> it is better to be fed many options as opposed to none
[03:34] <arrrghhh> actionparsnip, but that link you gave him/her was very helpful so i'm not dogging on you at all.
[03:34] <perlsyntax> does anyone know if X-FI Xtreme audio is support by ubuntu?
[03:34] <actionparsnip> arrrghhh: exactly, for some, even living isn't best
[03:34] <KE1HA> what is the "exact" error yoru getting?
[03:34] <arrrghhh> actionparsnip, ouch!  but true enough.
[03:34] <nUboon2Age> actionparsnip: thank you i'll check that out...
[03:34] <actionparsnip> arrrghhh: didnt detect any dogging dude, its all good
[03:35] <perlsyntax> or is there a howto for it
[03:35] <VS-> I'm trying to newly install, and I get to a prompt with "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$"
[03:35] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1343744 that msg
[03:35] <arrrghhh> VS-, that's after you've installed ubuntu?
[03:35] <VS-> No.
[03:35] <VS-> Before.
[03:36] <arrrghhh> booting livecd?
[03:36] <uRock> That is the LiveCD's prompt
[03:36] <actionparsnip> perlsyntax: cretaive cards are quite tricky to get going. personally i aviod them like paris hilton avoids talent
[03:36] <VS-> Oh.
[03:36] <VS-> I get to it anytime I try to install though.
[03:36] <actionparsnip> perlsyntax: not worth the hassle
[03:36] <uRock> Once you install it will be screenname@PCname
[03:36] <perlsyntax> is there a howto
[03:36] <arrrghhh> VS-, wait, do you get a prompt to "try or install" basically when the disc boots?
[03:37] <VS-> No.
[03:37] <VS-> I don't.
[03:37] <tensorpudding> VS-: are you not using the graphical install?
[03:37] <arrrghhh> it'll have more options, like test memory
[03:37] <nUboon2Age> Guest98392: I like Konversation for irc.
[03:37] <VS-> I can't, it doesn't give me an option to.
[03:37] <arrrghhh> VS-, yes, which disc did you download.  server edition or alternate installer perhaps?
[03:37] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, so was that your problem, or one similar?
[03:37] <tensorpudding> Which install disk are you using?
[03:37] <VS-> Desktop Edition :/
[03:37] <[ZoD]Phantom> ke1 the very same one, and im not sure how to fix it.
[03:37] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA the very same one, and im not sure how to fix it.
[03:37] <uRock> Sounds like a bad image?
[03:38] <tensorpudding> VS-: any errors on boot?
[03:38] <tensorpudding> is this for 10.04?
[03:38] <arrrghhh> VS-, could be a bad image like uRock said.  do you get any other errors?  it just drops a prompt?
[03:38] <allguru> i know that this is in-relevant a bit , but it's URGENT :( , the site www.noobsnetwork.com is going to be a site for educating 3D and Engineering and Web Design in Video Tutorials , i want to use my old domain www.open-class.org for the site , but this dark theme isn't suitable , what about this light one http://noobsnetwork.com/portal.php?style=1 , you can talk to me to proof that i'm not a spam bot , lol ..
[03:38] <VS-> Unexpectedly disconnected from boot status daemon.
[03:38] <arrrghhh> haha gang troubleshooting.
[03:38] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, follow that check-disk section and see where that gets you.
[03:38] <VS-> Yes, 10.04
[03:38] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA i got that and i think its fine.
[03:38] <uRock> !spam | allguru
[03:38] <roved2101> Boooooooooom!
[03:38] <arrrghhh> VS-, did you do a MD5 checksum before you burned?
[03:38] <arrrghhh> VS-, does the disc work in any other computers?
[03:38] <tensorpudding> it seems like it could be possible that the xorg autoconfiguration got botched, i suppose
[03:39] <VS-> It does.
[03:39] <mkquist> actionparsnip: thanx for that, turns out i hadnt been to all of those pages, sounds up now... =)
[03:39] <KE1HA> and did you re-mount the partition and fix the fstab afterwards ?
[03:39] <allguru> uRock , no dude :(
[03:39] <allguru> uRock: i need help
[03:39] <arrrghhh> VS-, there's something it doesn't like about the hardware.  you can try the alternate install disc, but no promises.
[03:39] <allguru> uRock: the other rooms are dead .
[03:39] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA what you mean, how i remount?
[03:40] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA was it the sudo mount -o etc etc?
[03:40] <allguru> ok , Bye :( .
[03:40] <KE1HA> udo mount -o remount,rw /
[03:40] <VS-> So there's nothing I can do with this prompt?
[03:40] <KE1HA> sudo .. .. ..
[03:40] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA just did that, after that what else?
[03:40] <arrrghhh> VS-, i mean you can try some things, but if the disc boots on other computers then there's probably some hardware that isn't playing nice.
[03:40] <Taev> Im trying to install the http module for TCL, im specifying where its at and I keep getting "checking for Tcl configuration... configure: error: /usr/share/tcltk/tcl8.4/tclConfig.sh directory doesn't contain tclConfig.sh"
[03:40] <actionparsnip> mkquist: nice
[03:41] <VS-> What can I do?
[03:41] <rodolfo> it still dont say devices
[03:41] <KE1HA> do a quick ls -al on the fstab and see who the owner & group is
[03:41] <arrrghhh> Taev, what is tcl?
[03:41] <Dev_> hmm XChat 2 keeps crashing
[03:41] <Taev> how can ./tcl8.4/tclConfig.sh NOT contain tclConfig.sh
[03:41] <Taev> its a scripting language
[03:41] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: you're back.  okay, so i guess its time to try the second method.
[03:41] <lfaraone> If you don't have plymouth installed, say, on a server, does "splash" in the kernel parameter do antyhing?
[03:41] <rodolfo> ok
[03:42] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: here's something on songbird/ipod compatibility: http://getsatisfaction.com/songbird/topics/sync_songs_to_ipod?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=widget_songbird
[03:42] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: oops, wrong one
[03:42] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA i did the "ls -al" and i got a list, what am i looking for?
[03:42] <arrrghhh> Taev, sounds awful.  probalby outside of the scope of this room, no offense.
[03:42] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: then if that doesn't work i found an alternative method:    http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/easy-way-to-sync-your-iphone-with.html
[03:42] <Dev_> actionparsnip, crap - crashed the xorg server
[03:42] <uRock> allguru, sorry, my kid wanted ice cream and she is my boss
[03:43] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: which looks like its really the same as the one actionparsnip posted
[03:43] <KE1HA> Thr Group and Owner., The problem is more than likely a curruption error and will take fdisk to fix it.
[03:43] <bjegovic> WHAT DO COMMAND sudo rm -rf /*
[03:43] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: here's actionparsnip's version: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/sync-iphone-and-ipod-touch-in-ubuntu.html
[03:43] <arrrghhh> KE1HA, [ZoD]Phantom have you fsck'd it?
[03:43] <[ZoD]Phantom> arrrghhh how do i do that?
[03:43] <arrrghhh> bjegovic, remove everything.  you trolled around until someone told you to do it huh
[03:43] <Melodist> hello guys, I need help
[03:44] <PeterDrop> 4 hours trying to get sound on flash, any help here please
[03:44] <abhijit> !danger | bjegovic
[03:44] <KE1HA> Yeah, in a ternimal window, you need to do a few things.
[03:44] <xangua> !ops | bjegovic
[03:44] <nUboon2Age> bjegovic: i hope you're kidding.  Don't do that.
[03:44] <bjegovic> William told me to type that
[03:44] <arrrghhh> [ZoD]Phantom, i believe it's just "fsck /dev/disk"
[03:44] <maco> bjegovic: it deletes everything
[03:44] <bjegovic> ohhh
[03:44] <DasEi> !danger | bjegovic
[03:44] <KE1HA> in a terminla sudo fdisk -l  what your looking for is the root partition.
[03:44] <[ZoD]Phantom> arrrghhh it says clean etc etc etc
[03:45] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA is sda1
[03:45] <bjegovic> i didnt typed that xD
[03:45] <KE1HA> ok, is it ext3 or 4?
[03:45] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA ext3
[03:45] <nUboon2Age> bjegovic: glad to hear that!
[03:45] <KE1HA> ok, then: sudo fsck.ext4 /dev/sda1
[03:45] <KE1HA> opps sri, ext 3
[03:45] <Melodist> my boyfriend is trying to install twin terminal window manager, but he seems to be missing GNU bash
[03:45] <KE1HA> Not 4
[03:45] <Melodist> how can he install it?
[03:45] <[ZoD]Phantom> let me see
[03:45] <bjegovic> for me too :P
[03:46] <Melodist> what package does it belong to or whatever?
[03:46] <bjegovic> some person from here told me that
[03:46] <rodolfo> when i try to add the repository it says command not found
[03:46] <bjegovic> William_Shaftner
[03:46] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, do:  sudo fsck.ext3 /dev/sda1
[03:46] <bjegovic> William_Shaftner told me on private to do that
[03:46] <lfaraone> Melodist: if you're using Ubuntu, you have to have bash installed. It won't boot without it, I'm pretty sure.
[03:46] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA i did, and it said clean etc etc
[03:46] <abhijit> bjegovic, thats why no pm.
[03:46] <maco> bjegovic: this is why you should get all support *in channel* not through PMs, that way you can be warned as soon as something bad is said
[03:46] <Melodist> hrm
[03:47] <lfaraone> Melodist: does "which bash" tell you anything if you run it in the terminal?
[03:47] <uRock> you'd think that the Intro to unix/linux book would say not to try that command
[03:47] <arrrghhh> bjegovic, and perhaps quit trolling about CS 1.6...
[03:47] <DasEi> Melodist: i tried terminator before, that did well for me, see :
[03:47] <Melodist> so then what other dependencies could he be missing? he already installed build essential, which installs gnu-make, right?
[03:47] <KE1HA> Ok, so its saying it's a clean partition, puzzling, only think I can think then is fstab is messed abotu somehow.
[03:47] <DasEi> !info terminator
[03:48] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: when you try to add which repository?
[03:48] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA this is one thing i saw when i did this command: "cat /etc/fstab":
[03:48] <KwikkSilva_> grrr
[03:48] <maco> Melodist: im also a fan of terminator
[03:48] <KwikkSilva_> stupid xchat
[03:48] <KE1HA> post the fstab output in pastbin
[03:48] <Melodist> im not sure what terminator is
[03:48] <rodolfo> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pmcenery/ppa
[03:48] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA uuid ext3 errors=remount-ro
[03:48] <DasEi> !info terminator > Melodist
[03:49] <maco> Melodist: its a terminal emulator (can replace gnome-terminal) that does tiling stuff too
[03:49] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA how can i do that if i cant even get into ubuntu? im doing this through a diff pc.
[03:49] <Melodist> Oh
[03:49] <Melodist> I see
[03:49] <KwikkSilva_> k - forget the xserver - this ones more important anyway
[03:49] <KE1HA> do you have any fstab lines that start with dvpts ?
[03:49] <Melodist> so it does the same thing twin does?
[03:49] <maco> Melodist: i think so
[03:49] <KwikkSilva_> does this post make any sense to snayone - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1535015
[03:49] <Melodist> Alright
[03:49] <KwikkSilva_> I can;t get my server to be seen on the network
[03:49] <uRock> I tried the killer command in a vbox and it denied the command permission
[03:49] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: when i try sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pmcenery/ppa it works for me
[03:50] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, Ok, sri, you need to Live-CD Boot and be on the PC to do all this stuff.
[03:50] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA is there a comand to know what version of ubuntu is on the pc?
[03:50] <maco> uRock: youd need sudo, and youd have to read the rm manpage to see that the syntax for the killer command has changed a bit to keep people who dont know it changed from destroying others' systems
[03:50] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, with the Live-CD you should be able to gain Net Acess and IRC from it.
[03:50] <uRock> nevermind, the vbox install is now ruined
[03:50] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: looks like we both used the exact same command.
[03:50] <DasEi> [ZoD]Phantom: lsb_release -a
[03:51] <maco> uRock: oh wait, the * was in there. yep just plain with sudo would work there
[03:51] <[ZoD]Phantom> ok its 9.10 ty
[03:51] <A-Non> Any time I enable compiz, the window borders and title bar disappear, and none of the effects work. Any help?
[03:51] <uRock> rm does its job well
[03:51] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: just to be sure i tried your command and it worked for me.
[03:52] <rodolfo> but why it dont works?
[03:52] <DasEi> A-Non: graphics capable and drivers well set ?
[03:52] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, cat/etc/lsb-release
[03:52] <KE1HA> I think :-)
[03:53] <A-Non> DasEi: ./compiz-check tells me it should work, drivers installed through hardware drivers menu
[03:53] <nUboon2Age> actionparsnip: need some help here.  rodolfo is trying to add a repository and is getting 'command not found'  for sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pmcenery/ppa
[03:53] <uRock> how do I move a home made command into one of the $PATH directories?
[03:54] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, Additnally, I had all sorts of FS issues on 9.xx releases, I have (0) system with that distro on it, all 8.x or 10.x
[03:54] <Benny_132> Hey guys i have this 200mb text file, and there is a problem on like line 800,000 what is the best way to open the file at that location to check the line for errors
[03:54] <DasEi> A-Non: so maybe a look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log could help, apart from
[03:54] <DasEi> !cssm
[03:54] <nUboon2Age> actionparsnip: rodolfo is on Karmic.  any ideas what could be going on?
[03:54] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, but clearly, there's a probple with the partition or fstab one or the other.
[03:54] <DasEi> !ccsm | A-Non
[03:54] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA wel i want to get my stuff from that pc and save it, and then install a new version
[03:54] <actionparsnip> nUboon2Age: check the release, add-apt-repository isn't in Hardy and may not be in Jaunty
[03:54] <A-Non> DasEi: I'll take a look in that I guess... I have CCSM installed
[03:54] <uRock> Benny_132, cat <name of file>
[03:55] <actionparsnip> !info add-apt-repository
[03:55] <actionparsnip> hmm
[03:55] <mnaines> I found out how to get Ubuntu to run entirely on a flash drive with persistence and zero hardware dependency, but it requires a flash drive with a minimum of 16GB capacity
[03:55] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, you can do that from the Live CD.
[03:55] <nUboon2Age> actionparsnip: thing is those instructions were specifically for Karmic (which rodolfo has)
[03:55] <[ZoD]Phantom> does it matter if i access it with livecd with a diff version?
[03:55] <abhijit> !usb | mnaines
[03:55] <KE1HA> provided you have like a USB key or / HDD or somethign.
[03:55] <DasEi> actionparsnip: works since ibex
[03:55] <uRock> or you can use more <nameoffile>
[03:56] <actionparsnip> rodolfo: nUboon2Age can you use a pastebin to give the output of: lsb_release -a
[03:56] <mnaines> abhijit, I'm not talking about installing Ubuntu from a flash drive, I am talking about installing it TO and running it on a flash drive.
[03:56] <nUboon2Age> actionparsnip: i tried it on Lucid and it worked for me.
[03:56] <actionparsnip> DasEi: well it ain working there :)
[03:56] <abhijit> mnaines, min requirement is about 4gb space only (apprx)
[03:56] <abhijit> mnaines, not of 16 gb
[03:56] <uRock> Benny_132, "vi <name of file> then scroll down to that line
[03:57] <guille1983> hey I tried to load the installer and it failed, it says it will load a default desktop session but it asks for a user and password. What is the default user/password ?
[03:57] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: do you understand what actionparsnip is asking for?
[03:57] <Ca5> âû åáëàíû
[03:57] <mnaines> abhijit, yes, but I say minimum 16GB flash drive capacity because you need room for swap space plus updates, customizations, and whatnot
[03:57] <rodolfo> no
[03:57] <Benny_132> uRock:  this file has over 1 million lines could take a while
[03:57] <Ca5> äà
[03:57] <nUboon2Age> actionparsnip: what is that program that automatically handles pastebin for you?
[03:57] <Ca5> áëÿòü
[03:57] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA i appreciate your help, ty.
[03:57] <Ca5> õóéëîëî
[03:57] <uRock> there is a way to name the line, but I'll have to search my Unix/Linux book
[03:57] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA livecd is loading
[03:58] <abhijit> !en | Ca5
[03:58] <test34> nubooontuL search for pastebin in Synaptic?
[03:58] <mnaines> abhijit, you can run Ubuntu entirely on a flash drive with persistence and no hardware dependency, but you need a 16GB flash drive or bigger
[03:58] <abhijit> mnaines, okk
[03:58] <littlebear> 16gb?
[03:58] <Ca5> èäè íàõóé ãîâíî
[03:58] <actionparsnip> nUboon2Age: try:   sudo apt-get install pastebinit; lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[03:58] <nUboon2Age> actionparsnip: test34 i found it
[03:58] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, got through the check-disk again when your Live-CD is loaded.
[03:58] <littlebear> mnaines: o.o, i ran puppylinux on a 8gb, it only needs 100mb
[03:58] <abhijit> so that want a language at all? :(
[03:58] <abhijit> wasnt*
[03:59] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: try sudo apt-get install pastebinit; lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[03:59] <mnaines> littlebear, I say 16GB because you need room for the swap space, all the updates, whatever customizations you decide to use
[03:59] <littlebear> mnaines: true
[03:59] <arrrghhh> littlebear, i've run ubuntu on 10gb but it was NOT easy.
[04:00] <littlebear> arrrghhh: 10gb flash drive? woah, that's painful
[04:00] <actionparsnip> littlebear: its enough for an ubuntu install dude
[04:00] <littlebear> arrrghhh: i noe that archlinux uses 300mb with their netinstall,
[04:00] <arrrghhh> littlebear, lol i was talking about a recovery portion converted into an ubuntu install but ok.
[04:00] <uRock> Benny_132, man grep look at the -c arguement
[04:00] <rodolfo> it worked
[04:00] <arrrghhh> littlebear, there's a netinstall of ubuntu that uses about the same.
[04:00] <Benny_132> uRock: ok thanks man
[04:00] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, Here's the FS Wont Mount BUG on 9.04: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/468450   .. Probably a like or similar issue on your distro.
[04:00] <mnaines> arrrghhh, the problem with running Ubuntu entirely on a flash drive is it is painfully slow, you don't have much room for storing your files and stuff, but if you can tolerate that, you can actually be rest assured that you can use your full ubuntu setup on any machine that can boot from USB
[04:00] <arrrghhh> littlebear, but you don't get gnome or OOO do ya?  ;)
[04:01] <littlebear> of course not
[04:01] <neskapow_> hey whats up #
[04:01] <littlebear> arrrghhh: those are heavy space eaters lol
[04:01] <A-Non> Nothing in the Xorg.0.log jumps out at me aside from a missing "libwfb.so", could that cause title bars and window borders to disappear while running compiz?
[04:01] <littlebear> ooo by it self is something like 300 mb i recall
[04:01] <arrrghhh> mnaines, woah i didn't realize i was jumping into a case for using a flash drive to run ubuntu off of.
[04:01] <uRock> Benny_132, man grep look at the -n
[04:01] <arrrghhh> littlebear, that's my point.  ubuntu-desktop comes with A LOT and needs room to breathe.
[04:02] <arrrghhh> you could run ubuntu off a flash key for a server OS with hdd's for storage, but i've heard of ppl running into issues long-term.
[04:02] <littlebear> arrrghhh: yeah, i was stupid enough to think 10 gb was enough, now i only have 2 gb left
[04:02] <arrrghhh> ha, ouch.
[04:02] <DasEi> A-Non: might be, I just located it on my sys, it's : /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so
[04:02] <arrrghhh> littlebear, i think it recommends 20gb...?
[04:03] <actionparsnip> littlebear: install lubuntu, its a very small ubuntu based system, vying for official status too
[04:03] <arrrghhh> littlebear, correction, 15gb.
[04:03] <DasEi> A-Non: looks like a missing module of xorg in first glance
[04:03] <rodolfo> sorry for the problems, im on my cousin laptop
[04:03] <actionparsnip> littlebear: or you could use puppy or damnsmall to make the system super faster
[04:03] <littlebear> actionparsnip: yeah, busy with life
[04:03] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: ok what is the URL it gave?
[04:03] <A-Non> DasEi: How would I fix that?
[04:03] <mnaines> arrrghhh, do you run Ubuntu entirely on a flash drive?
[04:03] <littlebear> actionparsnip: that's ram though
[04:03] <arrrghhh> mnaines, no.
[04:03] <rodolfo> but what i do next??
[04:04] <actionparsnip> littlebear: plus lighter in cpu too as well as smaller in HDD usage
[04:04] <littlebear> actionparsnip: unless you have your hdd entirely made up of ram, you're speed isn't going anywhere
[04:04] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, Look at Post #19 on the link I sent you, this may be the smoking-gun for your issue.
[04:04] <arrrghhh> mnaines, but i know guys that run ubuntu-server on a usb key.
[04:04] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: tell us what the URL is that pastebinit produced.
[04:04] <mnaines> arrrghhh, I tried it once...Painfully slow and no room for any of my files, but I could use it on any machine that could boot from USB
[04:04] <DasEi> A-Non: try to backup xorg.conf, reconfigure the server, run a full update/grade, and set up xorg back, case lack of functionality
[04:04] <rodolfo> it gave me this
[04:04] <littlebear> mnaines: the puppylinux works great from usb, though corruption after awhile
[04:04] <arrrghhh> and i run the liveusb key edition or whatever, but i don't use it frequently.  just when i need it.  most guys get flash cards on the mobo - much faster bus that way.
[04:05] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: yes?  Gave which URL?
[04:05] <mnaines> arrrghhh, yes, but my intent is portability, being able to use my full-featured copy of Ubuntu on almost any newer machine I come to
[04:05] <DasEi> A-Non: need the commands for tthat ?
[04:05] <A-Non> DasEi: I know how to back up xorg.conf but I don't know what you mean by the rest of those steps, could you explain that in detail?
[04:05] <rodolfo> Distributor ID:	Jolicloud  Description:	Jolicloud robby (Final Release)  Release:	1.0  Codename:	robby
[04:05] <A-Non> DasEi: Yeah the commands would be helpful
[04:06] <rodolfo> what does it mean?
[04:06] <DasEi> A-Non: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup
[04:06] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: actionparsnip oh rodolfo's got Jolicloud!
[04:06] <arrrghhh> mnaines, yea you can do that.  but like you said it's slow... i do the same thing, but again slow.  if the machine has a TON of ram it does make a difference tho.
[04:06] <rodolfo> whats that?
[04:07] <A-Non> DasEi: Alright, then what?
[04:07] <actionparsnip> nUboon2Age: its not supported here then
[04:07] <DasEi> A-Non: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade (maybe note it and run it from init 1, as with x in use, things might be kept back)
[04:07] <mnaines> arrrghhh, yes.  As you said, its more useful on servers, and at this time, flash memory is not fast enough to use it for anything more than portable server operating systems
[04:07] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: actionparsnip: Jolicloud is based on Ubuntu, but is a derivative of Ubuntu.  Let's see where to get support for it...
[04:07] <rodolfo> ok
[04:07] <arrrghhh> wait, rodolfo isn't running ubuntu?
[04:07] <actionparsnip> nUboon2Age: true but many are based on ubuntu but still equally unsupported here
[04:08] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA ty, well im going to save the documents and reinstall using 10.04
[04:08] <arrrghhh> rodolfo, mind if i ask why you even came into this room then?
[04:09] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, Oh, Ok, well you can get your docs off easily, then jsut start over, but there's a problem with 9.04 & 9.10 with both fstab and sudo-user auth files.
[04:09] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA ty!
[04:09] <rodolfo> my uncle told me to ask here
[04:09] <DasEi> A-Non: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:09] <actionparsnip> rodolfo: the official channel for ubuntu is only for support for oficially released ubuntu from canonicals, not its spin offs
[04:09] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: actionparsnip: yes i understand.  I'll try and point rodolfo in the right support direction...
[04:09] <[ZoD]Phantom> KE1HA good night and to all.
[04:09] <actionparsnip> rodolfo: hopefully nUboon2Age can steer you
[04:10] <KE1HA> [ZoD]Phantom, After researin and listeing to your feedback, I suspect your /etcsusoers file is missing or currut, which is the liekly reason for the issue if it's not the fstab.
[04:10] <actionparsnip> rodolfo: if you install the netbook edition which looks pretty much the same you will be supported here
[04:10] <A-Non> DasEi: the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't seem to do anything, is that normal?
[04:11] <KE1HA> A-Non, no that's not normal.
[04:11] <DasEi> A-Non: sudo service gdm restart (will LOG you OFF!),  the last two commands might be run after doing an sudo init 1, which will bring you to single user mode ( and also drops you off the desk,,     the cmd did, even with no feedback
[04:11] <rodolfo> ok
[04:11] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: it looks like its Karmic based (i'm guessing).  Here's the web site: http://www.jolicloud.com/support
[04:11] <Snake_Eater> E ai algum braisileiro aki
[04:11] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: i'm looking over there for support resources...
[04:11] <Snake_Eater> ?
[04:11] <rww> ubottu: br | Snake_Eater
[04:11] <DasEi> !br | Snake_Eater
[04:11] <A-Non> DasEi: okay I'll need to load up IRC on the other machine before I do that
[04:12] <rodolfo> ok
[04:12] <DasEi> A-Non: IF YOU FEEL SAFER THAT WAY, SURE
[04:12] <DasEi> caps, ups
[04:13] <rublind> gentlemen (a bold assumption, I know). I'm seeking some assistance. Whenever I leave my eth0 to dhcp, I can't ssh to this machine. If I set it to a static IP it works. Does anyone have any idea of things I could try?
[04:13] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: I found they have an irc channel at #jolicloud .  Also
[04:13] <rublind> leave=set*
[04:14] <maco> rublind: a not-100%-correct one too!
[04:14] <rublind> o.O?
[04:14] <rodolfo> ok tnx
[04:14] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: more community resources listed at http://www.jolicloud.com/community
[04:14]  * maco swishes skirt
[04:14] <rublind> also, my monitor cuts off the first few letters (I hate this thing), so I don't really know who to reply to. sorry. :x
[04:15] <rublind> __co: I took a risk. =p
[04:15] <DasEi> A-Non: sudo init 1, then dpkg from gui-choice (same as update/grade) then reconfigure from netroot or root, exit back to init 1 gui, resume boot, start gdm manually
[04:15] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: i'm glad we checked and figured out what we're working with so you can get help from folks who are familar with Jolicloud, Robby edition.  We could have knocked that one around a long time without being able to make progress.
[04:16] <A-Non> DasEi: I'm going to switch IRC to the other machine, be right back
[04:16] <rodolfo> ok thanks
[04:16] <DasEi> y
[04:17] <nUboon2Age> rodolfo: I've heard good things about Jolicloud so hopefully you'll be able to get your ipod working quickly.
[04:17] <rublind> second question: does anyone know how to make 2wire routers not suck?
[04:17] <FirstgearOne> which is faster kde or gnome?
[04:17] <Sedated> rublind, i suggest a large heavy hammer
[04:17] <stanley_robertso> hi all
[04:17] <arrrghhh> rodolfo, slap your uncle for me :D
[04:17] <rublind> agreed. but I don't think AT&T will appreciate that.
[04:17] <KE1HA> rublind, yeah, replace it with Cisco Routers :-)
[04:17] <A-Non> DasEi: I was running IRC on the machine I was trying to fix before, so this will be easier
[04:18] <rublind> do you know if the cisco routers are compatible with AT&T's garbage service?
[04:18] <mnaines> Does anyone know of a program for Linux that takes all your settings, custom themes, files and programs, and whatever else and turn it into an ISO so you can reinstall or move to another machine without losing any data?
[04:18] <KE1HA> rublind, yes.
[04:18] <DasEi> A-Non: sudo init 1, then dpkg from gui-choice (same as update/grade) then reconfigure from netroot or root, exit back to init 1 gui, resume boot, start gdm manually
[04:18] <rodolfo> yes XD tnx for your help
[04:18] <rublind> I need to look into this then... thank you. would you happen to know a model number by any chance?
[04:18] <actionparsnip> mnaines: backup the hidden files in $HOME, you can restore them later to restore settings
[04:19] <KE1HA> rublind, our main fibre channel was on an AT&T link, was pretty stable for acess.
[04:19] <KE1HA> rublind, Which Cisco Routers ?
[04:19] <rublind> the service isn't that bad (usually, it did go down for no reason once or twice), but I hate this 2wire thing they give me. makes me want to stab myself.
[04:20] <mnaines> actionparsnip, I mean like, when someone customizes Ubuntu to their liking then wants to get a new machine but does not want to have to reinstall everything to get their customizations back, is there something that can compile their custom Ubuntu setup into an ISO?
[04:20] <econdudeawesome> AAH! I meant to delete a partition and created a new partition table. It said that it will be implemented on reboot. Can I fix it?
[04:20] <A-Non> DasEi: Just did init 1 now
[04:20] <rublind> yeah, if you knew off the top of your head. would save me some googling, but no worries either way. :)
[04:20] <KE1HA> rublind, sri mate, but 2wire is garbage if you need real performace.
[04:20] <DasEi> A-Non: get a small gui.. > dpkg...
[04:20] <Sedated> rublind, the 2wire routers i have here in .au have an advanced management page you can get it by browsing to http://<ip>/mdc
[04:20] <KE1HA> rublind, one moment, need ot SSH to my Workstation.
[04:20] <A-Non> DasEi: I get an Ubuntu splash screen with the little dots
[04:20] <actionparsnip> mnaines: yep, that'll do it. You can burn them to a CD or USB stick etc for storage. Don't get tied up with ISO files
[04:20] <rodolfo> i have a problem with jolicloud IRC
[04:21] <rublind> II've tried the mdc things before, but still not the level of control I want...
[04:21] <DasEi> A-Non: might take a second
[04:21] <rodolfo> no one answers
[04:21] <A-Non> DasEi: I think it's frozen, the dots aren't moving anymore :(
[04:21] <actionparsnip> rodolfo: then ask in #freenode
[04:21] <tpad> should i buy an nvidia or ati gpu if i plan on running ubuntu?
[04:21] <econdudeawesome> So if I use gparted to create a new partition table for a currently mounted drive, is there any way to fix that???
[04:21] <DasEi> A-Non: give it a little. else ctrl-alt-delete, when grub is loading, press left shift
[04:22] <actionparsnip> tpad: nvidia
[04:22] <econdudeawesome> as in, restore the partition table of the drive, or will it be wiped on the next reboot?
[04:22] <tpad> should i buy an nvidia or ati gpu if i plan on running ubuntu?
[04:22] <rodolfo> ok thanks
[04:22] <tensorpudding> nvidia has good binary blob drivers
[04:22] <tpad> actionparsnip: would ati work? someone told me there isnt very good support for ati..
[04:22] <arrrghhh> rodolfo, is there any reason you can't run ubuntu?
[04:22] <tensorpudding> ati has a free driver, but i don't know what the state of it is
[04:22] <tpad> im looking at the ati radeon hd 5650
[04:22] <DasEi> econdudeawesome: very bad idea, and gparted wouldn't even allow on a mounted drive
[04:22] <KE1HA> rublind, border routers were 3800's
[04:23] <rublind> cool, thank you for checking. :)
[04:23] <actionparsnip> tpad: sure, you can check the ati site for compatible devices, nvidia have supported linux waaay longer than ati
[04:23] <econdudeawesome> DasEi now when I reopen gparted it doesn't bring up the drive
[04:23] <A-Non> DasEi: I rebooted tapping left shift pretty much constantly and it just got me to the GDM screen
[04:23] <DasEi> A-Non: got the grub menue ?
[04:24] <econdudeawesome> DasEi it was mounted into three partitions and I was trying to delete the middle one... and thought I needed a new partition table. What can I do??
[04:24] <tpad> actionparsnip: i know.. and i know ati has drivers.. im just wondering if anyone has experience with the stability of them.
[04:24] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, if you are using Grub2 then just hold shift down while booting to get the menu (don't tap)
[04:24] <KE1HA> rublind, local routers were 2600's with a few 7100 fer the main WAN stuff.
[04:24] <econdudeawesome> DasEi not mounted: divided. Two are currently mounteded
[04:24] <A-Non> DasEi: I don't think so, I saw no menus until GDM
[04:24] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: Alright I'll try holding it down then
[04:24] <actionparsnip> tpad: i only buy nvidia due to support, millions will agree, millions will disagree
[04:24] <rublind> cool, cool. time to go shopping I guess. =p
[04:24] <KE1HA> rublind, 2600's are Solid bargins, 3800's are over the top even for most small to medium companys.
[04:24] <maco> tpad: i last used ati 2 years ago and at the time i could get dual screen at high res on 32bit working fine, but on 64bit. i imagine progress has been made, particularly since they opened up all their specs
[04:25] <maco> tpad: er, but not on 64bit
[04:25] <DasEi> econdudeawesome: oo, you set a new partitable on a drive where you still would have needed the other two partis ?
[04:25] <ZykoticK9> tpad, if you want 3d on linux (or other open source OSs)  i would go nivida myself
[04:25] <rublind> 2600's it is then. :)
[04:25] <tpad> well damn.
[04:25] <tpad> see im looking at the envy 14.. and i cant get nvidia in it.
[04:25] <tpad> but i realllly want this laptop. :)
[04:25] <A-Non> DasEi: Okay now I've got "GNU GRUB version 1.98-1ubuntu7" menu
[04:25] <DasEi> A-Non: it's lucid ?
[04:25] <rublind> okay, I need to go futz with my router/networking setup for a bit to figure this out. I'll be back later. Thanks for all the info. :)
[04:25] <A-Non> DasEi: Yeah, lucid
[04:25] <maco> tpad: can i sugget a couple companies that make linux laptops?
[04:25] <DasEi> fine > 2nd kernel, recovery-mode
[04:26] <DasEi> A-Non: ^
[04:26] <coz_> tpad,  which intel chipsets for video do they hav?
[04:26] <ZykoticK9> tpad, if your shopping for a laptop then nvidia usually costs about 2x as much :|  You get what you pay for though.
[04:26] <KE1HA> rublind, look for certified Used 2600's, with the fibre module options, lots of ggod deals around. We're way off-topic, so back to Ubuntu Support.
[04:26] <tensorpudding> if you're getting a laptop, go for intel
[04:26] <A-Non> Dasei: running recovery-mode...
[04:26] <tensorpudding> graphics, that is
[04:26] <ZykoticK9> tpad, i agree with tensorpudding intel over ati.
[04:26] <maco> tpad: http://zareason.com and http://system76.com  both make fully linux compatible laptops.  i have two laptops from za
[04:26] <tpad> tensorpudding: lol now thats incorrect.
[04:27] <econdudeawesome> DasEi yes, that was the plan. But I wasn't thinking and made a new partition table for the whole drive. The computer seems to be working find, but I got the following in the terminal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/470510/
[04:27] <DasEi> econdudeawesome: so, what you need is another sys, and then use testdisk to recover it, that'll be a bit of a hassle then
[04:27] <tpad> nvidia may have better support.. but ati is def better than intel.
[04:27] <maco> tensorpudding: actually... intel has the best support of all
[04:27] <tensorpudding> Intel's free drivers work great.
[04:27] <maco> tensorpudding: fully open drivers, and yeah, it does work for 3d actually... its long been the easiest way to get 3d on linux
[04:27] <maco> tensorpudding: erk not you sorry
[04:27] <ZykoticK9> maco, if "best support" = "Open source" then yes ;)
[04:27] <econdudeawesome> DasEi that actually won't be a problem to boot up another system on the same rig, coincidentally enough.   Any ideas?
[04:28] <tpad> they may work good. but i am also going for performance. i will be running windows 7 dual boot for gaming as well.
[04:28] <maco> ZykoticK9: thats what i meant yeah.
[04:28] <DasEi> econdudeawesome: wellwell, I told you gparted won't do, if anything is mounted there.. gparteed still open ?
[04:28] <tensorpudding> If you're going for gaming it's different.
[04:28] <DasEi> A-Non: dpgk....
[04:28] <maco> ZykoticK9: but like... out of the box, you have 3d. none of this fussing around with extra drivers then finding out it breaks on plymouth crap
[04:29] <tpad> tensorpudding: i am going for gaming as well.
[04:29] <econdudeawesome> DasEi not gparted, gpart
[04:29] <actionparsnip> maco: the plymouth thing is easy to workaround with fb driver but OOTB yes
[04:29] <A-Non> DasEi: the recovery-mode thing seems to hang at "Setting sensors limits, Skip stopping firewall: ufw (not enabled)"
[04:29] <econdudeawesome> DasEi I've closed it and opened it--same options are availabel taht were there immediately following my stupid stupid action
[04:29] <DasEi> econdudeawesome: hm , I don't what command you issued actually, so first a reboot and then see what really happened will be way to go then
[04:30] <KE1HA> tensorpudding, Browse the Ubuntu Certified Hardware lists for hardware before purchase, saved on allot of frustration.
[04:30] <DasEi> A-Non: hmm.. should run through to a simple gui
[04:30] <econdudeawesome> I was running gparted, and used the "create new partition table" on the drive...
[04:30] <DasEi> A-Non: try to ctrl-c, if it won't move on
[04:31] <A-Non> DasEi: This machine never does what it should D: ... Ctrl+C seems to have no effect
[04:31] <courtni> can anyone tell me( in the most undestandable nderstandable terms please) how to run/ get the "desktop-switcher"
[04:31] <VS-> arrrghhh, alternate cd works, thanks a lot :D
[04:31] <DasEi> econdudeawesome: which, if any of the partis was mounted, shouldn't be possible, again: gparted-gui or parted from terminal ?
[04:31] <econdudeawesome> DasEi gparted-gui
[04:32] <arrrghhh> VS-, np.
[04:32] <econdudeawesome> DasEi I invoke it from the terminal
[04:32] <DasEi> econdudeawesome: so you might be lucky, just reboot and check the disk again
[04:32] <econdudeawesome> DasEi fair enough I guess, I'll give it a shot. In the meantime I'm running gpart
[04:33] <A-Non> DasEi: I rebooted and tried again and now it's got the simple GUI
[04:33] <econdudeawesome> seems straightforward enough: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2210436
[04:33] <econdudeawesome> courtni what do you mean
[04:33] <DasEi> A-Non: fine, so dpkgrepair...
[04:33] <raghavendran> hi
[04:33] <econdudeawesome> courtni are you switching between desktop windows, desktop session managers (GNOME, KDE), or login windows, or what?
[04:33] <raghavendran> how to embed kernal in cc
[04:34] <A-Non> DasEi: What was the dpkgrepair command exactly?
[04:34] <KE1HA> raghavendran, in CC ??
[04:34] <raghavendran> ya
[04:35] <econdudeawesome> c0ourtni are you there?
[04:35] <raghavendran> can any one tell me
[04:35] <DasEi> A-Non: first we want to run the dpkg-choice from the small menue
[04:35] <raghavendran> to do a project
[04:35] <ZykoticK9> raghavendran, and what is cc?
[04:35] <KE1HA> raghavendran, I dont know what you mean by "cc"
[04:35] <A-Non> DasEi: Okay I did that, it finished
[04:35] <raghavendran> interested in foss
[04:35] <econdudeawesome> raghavendran ask your question in one line, be specific
[04:35] <raghavendran> k
[04:36] <DasEi> A-Non: I assume it had inet , and didn't just spill error contacting url ?!
[04:36] <rajesh> hi
[04:36] <raghavendran> foss projects
[04:36] <DasEi> ignoring..
[04:36] <A-Non> DasEi: It ran completely, no error contacting url :)
[04:36] <DasEi> A-Non: next choice root or netroot
[04:37] <courtni> econdudeawesome: on the latest version of ubuntu, the "desktop-switcher" was added back after being taken off in the previous version due to instabilaty, it is supposed to allow ubuntu netbook remix to look like the desktop versoin
[04:37] <A-Non> DasEi: Okay, I've got the terminal prompt now
[04:37] <DasEi> A-Non: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:37] <Flannel> raghavendran: Your question seems like it might be better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:37] <joren> hey, has anyone had experience with 10.04 booting sporadically? most of the time, there's just a blinking cursor, no grub or anything, but every once in a while it will boot
[04:37] <DasEi> A-Non: will do no output
[04:37] <DasEi> A-Non: service gdm stop
[04:37] <econdudeawesome> courtni I could never get that to work exactly right. I followed a script in the ubuntu forums to set up GNOME exactly like the Netbook Remix session
[04:37] <DasEi> A-Non: service gdm start
[04:38] <ZykoticK9> courtni, i'm under the impression that UNE is actually almost entirely locked down UI wise.  Best of luck.  (i don't think the switcher is an available feature - i could be wrong)
[04:38] <A-Non> DasEi: I'm not supposed to get any output from dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg right?
[04:38] <DasEi> y
[04:38] <tonsofpcs> is there a way to send an eof to an open stream? (I have wodim stuck waiting for data, spinning my cd drive -- 21:43:07  * tonsofpcs tries sfc
[04:38] <tonsofpcs> bah
[04:38] <econdudeawesome> courtni if you want to switch between desktop, you need to run with GNOME session instead of netboook remix or netbook remix 2d
[04:38] <tonsofpcs> is there a way to send an eof to an open stream? (I have wodim stuck waiting for data, spinning my cd drive -- usr/bin/wodim -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/sr0 speed=48 -dao driveropts=burnfree -eject -data -tsize=318784s - )
[04:38] <econdudeawesome> courtni you can do this at the log in window--when you click on your account the option the change sessions is at the bottom
[04:39] <econdudeawesome> courtni however, you could also use the GNOME session script and then just kill or reinvoke the programs you want to switch between--I think the primary one is called maximus
[04:39] <ZykoticK9> econdudeawesome, i don't believe that is an option in UNE, in Gnome yes.
[04:40] <econdudeawesome> ZykoticK9 spot on. That's wht I was saying
[04:40] <courtni> econdudeawesome: thnx a LOT!c: I can manage that.
[04:40] <A-Non> DasEi: service gdm start loaded GDM (obviously) so now I'm logged in, how do I make sure the missing file is there now?
[04:40] <ZykoticK9> econdudeawesome, sorry it was just the way you broke your statement up there, i wasn't sure ;)
[04:40] <DasEi> A-Non: cd /usr/lib/xorg/modules/
[04:41] <DasEi> A-Non: ls libwf*
[04:41] <A-Non> DasEi: It's there :)
[04:41] <Mr_Sonoma> anyone know a way to set ubuntu to give a shell login option from the log in screen?
[04:42] <econdudeawesome> DasEi--I'm off! Wish me luck!
[04:42] <DasEi> A-Non: I assume it's an nvidia card then
[04:42] <DasEi> econdudeawesome: yupp
[04:42] <VS-> Only WEP is supported?
[04:42] <ZykoticK9> Mr_Sonoma, that would be an option to exit from GDM and drop to console mode, that option doesn't exist.  You can disable GDM if you want, but not as a selection in GDM.
[04:43] <A-Non> DasEi: Nvidia FX 5500
[04:43] <KE1HA> Mr_Sonoma, you mean drop to a terminal v.s. starting X ?
[04:43] <DasEi> A-Non: ic, not the biggest, but enough for small compiz-effects
[04:44] <Izinucs> A-Non: DasEi you might have to use the newest binary driver that was just released that is compatible with X.org 1.8 ..
[04:44] <ZykoticK9> Mr_Sonoma, if you're actually interested in disabling GDM you can see the two methods i know of at http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/notes/gdm
[04:44] <Mr_Sonoma> ZykoticK9, KE1HA yes, at the log in screen instead of logging into graphical have the option to go cli. hitting cntrl alt f1 just gives a blank screen unless i've already logged into the gui
[04:44] <A-Non> DasEi: It gets the job done, and it's PCI, my mobo only has PCI slots, no AGP or PCI-E :(
[04:44] <KE1HA> Mr_Sonoma, Easiest way ot to log in normally, then do an Init-3
[04:44] <DasEi> A-Non: saw that ? and also you ran the nvidia-settings , nor ?
[04:45] <KE1HA> Mr_Sonoma, doing the init-3 will do a quick re-boot without stating X.
[04:45] <A-Non> DasEi: I don't understand what you mean there
[04:45] <ZykoticK9> !runlevels > KE1HA
[04:45] <ZykoticK9> KE1HA, are you sure about that init3 thing?
[04:46] <Mr_Sonoma> !runlevels
[04:46] <KE1HA> I just got busted by Ubuttu :-) ... let me look at this a min :-)
[04:47] <Mr_Sonoma> blah, i had forgotten about the runlevels but that looks to have killed the idea i had forgotten about LOL
[04:48] <ZykoticK9> Mr_Sonoma, KE1HA to stop GDM you can use the command "sudo service gdm stop" and you should be left with only console modes.
[04:48] <A-Non> DasEi: Compiz still kills my title bars and window borders though :(
[04:48] <DasEi> A-Non: is it 32 or 64 ?
[04:48] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, that mean compiz is failing!
[04:48] <c1rcuit> so
[04:48] <A-Non> DasEi: My system is 32bit
[04:48] <c1rcuit> i changed the name of my home directory
[04:48] <c1rcuit> and now its all failing
[04:49] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: How would I stop it from failling?
[04:49] <KE1HA> ZykoticK9, rr, yes, I know you can start / stop GDM, but I was certian I could do an INIT, but maybe Im crossing wires with another distro here.
[04:49] <c1rcuit> how do i reset it back to normal?
[04:49] <actionparsnip> c1rcuit: rename it back in root recovery mode
[04:49] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, i don't know what the problem is.
[04:49] <c1rcuit> so say in the /home directory
[04:49] <c1rcuit> there was /c1rcuit
[04:49] <c1rcuit> and i changed it to lets say
[04:49] <c1rcuit> matt
[04:49] <ZykoticK9> KE1HA, pretty much ANY other distro probably ;)
[04:49] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: By that do you mean, you wouldn't be able to figure out the problem, or that I need to give you more information?
[04:50] <c1rcuit> id just have to change matt back to c1rcuit?
[04:50] <Izinucs> c1rcuit: change it back to c1rcuit
[04:50] <DasEi> A-Non: http://i8t.de/a9hg0ttb
[04:50] <KE1HA> Mr_Sonoma, Ok, in the interest of speed here, start / stop GDM is the best options  at the moment.
[04:50] <c1rcuit> ok ill try
[04:50] <mr_4slk4> can i ask a question
[04:50] <Izinucs> !ask | mr_4slk4
[04:50] <DasEi> A-Non: latest driver, d/l it
[04:50] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, i have no idea what your issue is, but unless you are using nvidia i can't really be much help
[04:50] <Mr_Sonoma> ZykoticK9, thats a thought, and thanks for the link. let me think about how i wanna do this. I don't always want graphical i spend a lot of time on command line doing my stuff. Woulda been nice to have a way to add the option at the bottom of the log in screen where you can select recovery or what ever
[04:50] <mr_4slk4> i'm a newbie in irc
[04:50] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: I am using nvidia
[04:50] <mr_4slk4> what is script
[04:50] <A-Non> DasEi: Okay
[04:51] <Izinucs> DasEi: A-Non the right driver may be the 96.xx driver not the 195.xx
[04:51] <cntrational> when will you guys stop calling "ctrl" "cntrl"
[04:51] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, use whatever driver is "Recommended" in hardware drivers would be my recommendation.
[04:51] <Izinucs> cntrational: tomato - tomato :)
[04:51] <DasEi> Izinucs: I just see that, that's xorg 1.7
[04:51] <cntrational> Izinucs: hilights
[04:52] <A-Non> KykoticK9, Izinucs, DasEi, which driver then?? :P
[04:52] <Izinucs> DasEi: what's 10.04 running 1.7 or 1.8?  I think Maverick is 1.8
[04:52]  * Mr_Sonoma points out that it used to be cntrl on the old keyboards back in the day
[04:52] <cntrational> we aren't that old
[04:52] <Random832> Izinucs: back in what day?
[04:52] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, you also might want to move your current xorg and let nvidia generate a new one.  Move with "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig" then "sudo nvidia-xconfig" to generate a new one.  Just a suggestion.
[04:52] <Izinucs> A-Non: looking
[04:52] <Random832> i'm pretty sure it went straight from "Control" to "Ctrl"
[04:53] <KE1HA> ZykoticK9, You are indeed correct, Run-Levels, 3 to 5 are the same for Debian system, 2 is a single level user mode, similar to WIndows safemode.: http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-and-ubuntu-linux-run-levels.html
[04:53] <Mr_Sonoma> thanks fellas
[04:53] <abhijit> can i use yasm to program (virtual) 8086?
[04:53] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: I'll give that a go, see what happens
[04:53] <maco> KE1HA: youre wrong
[04:53] <cntrational> Random832: well it's cntrl if you remove only the vowels
[04:53] <maco> KE1HA: 2-5 are the same. 1 is single user
[04:53] <DasEi> Izinucs: Version: 1:7.5+5ubuntu1, so not as 1.8 as said above, for lucid
[04:53] <Random832> which isn't really the answer to the question
[04:53] <maco> KE1HA: the default runlevel in ubuntu (and i think debian as well) is 2
[04:53] <KE1HA> maco, was quoting from Debian Admin, so if it's wrong, I too and mistaken.
[04:54] <Random832> actually. the XT had "Ctrl", the VT100 had "Ctrl"
[04:54] <ZykoticK9> KE1HA, i'd trust maco if i where you ;)
[04:54] <Datz> Hi, could someone guide me to a page that explains requirements for repo packages, and how to submit such things.
[04:54] <maco> KE1HA: check it out. type "runlevel" in a shell. you should be on 2
[04:54] <Random832> it's pretty well established, from pretty early on - i know some old mac keyboards had "control"
[04:54] <actionparsnip> abhijit: sure, its opensource
[04:54] <DasEi> A-Non: which driver is currently shown under recommended ( as in Version), same ?
[04:54] <Izinucs> DasEi: A-Non this is what I found http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_173.14.25.html
[04:54] <abhijit> actionparsnip, ok
[04:54] <rww> Entertainingly, the top of that debianadmin.com article is wrong and the text is right.
[04:55] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: Compiz still fails to load
[04:55] <KE1HA> maco, not disputing it, jsut wanted to read about it, is this doc incorrect then? : http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-and-ubuntu-linux-run-levels.html
[04:55] <DasEi> Izinucs: same here
[04:55] <A-Non> DasEi: Version 173 is recommended,96 is also supported
[04:55] <rww> oh wait no, it's all right and KE1HA just can't read
[04:55] <Izinucs> DasEi: and 10.04 is 1.7?
[04:55] <DasEi> Izinucs: as apt says, yes
[04:55] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, run from terminal "compiz --replace" and see if you get any noticeable error
[04:55] <KE1HA> Excuse me, yeah, my comprehension level isn't to high these days.
[04:56] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: No error, just a lack of title bars and window borders :(
[04:56] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell KE1HA about runlevels
[04:56] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, do you have fusion-icon installed?
[04:56] <Izinucs> DasEi: don't forget that the stock nvidia drivers that come with ubuntu have to be uninstalled prior to installing the binary..
[04:56] <Izinucs> DasEi: also the headers need installing
[04:56] <abhijit> anyone yasm user here?
[04:56] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: Yes I do
[04:57] <actionparsnip> !ppa | abhijit
[04:57] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, try the reload wm option in there
[04:57] <DasEi> A-Non: down ?
[04:57] <actionparsnip> abhijit: may have a ppa for you, otherwise you will be sniffing for a deb, failing that you wil be compiling
[04:57] <abhijit> actionparsnip, i installed it. but i need someone to talk about how to use it. becuase i have only experience with tasm on xp.
[04:57] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: It reloads with the same error
[04:57] <abhijit> actionparsnip, yasm is there in repo
[04:57] <actionparsnip> abhijit: read the man page
[04:57] <A-Non> DasEi: I'll give it a download
[04:57] <actionparsnip> !info yasm
[04:57] <abhijit> actionparsnip, reading
[04:58] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, what error?  or do you just mean the missing titlebars.
[04:58] <Datz> Hi, could someone guide me to a page that explains requirements for repo packages, and how to submit something to the repo.
[04:58] <DasEi> A-Non: say when ready
[04:58] <actionparsnip> abhijit: glad its in the repo for you :)
[04:58] <abhijit> actionparsnip, :)
[04:58] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: I meant the missing title bars sorry :P
[04:58] <DasEi> A-Non: can open another window and issue:
[04:58] <DasEi> !headers
[04:58] <rww> ubottu: packaging | Datz
[04:58] <Datz> thx
[04:59] <DasEi> A-Non:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[04:59] <Datz> !backports
[04:59] <Izinucs> sudo apt-get remove nvidia*
[04:59] <A-Non> DasEi: I'm doing that command now while the drivers download
[04:59] <Datz> ubottu = quick
[04:59] <j_ayen_green> running lucid. all of a sudden gedit won't let me save anything...says 'the text file is busy'
[04:59] <BentFrank> New 10.4 installation.  Manual internet setup.  Edited /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf.  Now what?  What goes in /etc/network/interfaces?
[04:59] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, what driver does Hardware Drivers show as in use?  does nvidia-settings work properly?
[04:59] <A-Non> DasEi: Apparently I had that already
[05:00] <Datz> !packaging
[05:00] <DasEi> lzinucs: or just by by jockey
[05:00] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: Nvidia-settings works correctly, version 173 is in use
[05:00] <KwikkSilva> could anyone help me with a bridging problem
[05:00] <KwikkSilva> between my wireless and wired network
[05:00] <Izinucs> DasEi: I'm not even sure what jockey is.. :/
[05:01] <devel> hello peeps
[05:01] <Izinucs> KwikkSilva: you trying to use your machine to provide internet to others?
[05:01] <ZykoticK9> A-Non, is your system up-to-date?  have you rebooted (in event of kernel updates)?  other then that i'm affriad, i have no idea man.  Good luck man.
[05:01] <Izinucs> !ics | KwikkSilva
[05:01] <KwikkSilva> Izinucs, thats right - i did manage to get that oart working
[05:01] <KwikkSilva> but the "others" are now not pingable
[05:02] <A-Non> ZykoticK9: I'm pretty sure I'm updated, I just rebooted a few minutes ago too
[05:02] <DasEi> lzinucs: jockey-gtk is the gui for hardwaredrivers
[05:02] <Izinucs> KwikkSilva: the link ubottu provided might help
[05:02] <Izinucs> DasEi: but does removing that eliminate the other nvidia bits provided by ubuntu?
[05:03] <ZykoticK9> KwikkSilva, you might want to see this as well (it for 9.10 but most should still apply) http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-easily-share-your-wireless-connection-in-ubuntu-9-10/
[05:03] <KwikkSilva> Yes - actually have been thru that part - but i' mleft with a lingering problem that the server which now has access to the network is inacessible
[05:03] <DasEi> lzinucs: takes them out of x, just the drivers being still on won't harm , got to restart x (which goes by cmdline for the binary itself)
[05:03] <Izinucs> DasEi: I've had a horrible time installing the binary on 10.04 but from 6.06 through 9.1 it was pretty simple.. maybe something to do with the new opensource driver being the default.
[05:03] <KwikkSilva> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1535015
[05:04] <KwikkSilva> When i bridged the server it got a different IP address, like <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:04] <KwikkSilva> and my netowkr is <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:04] <bthornton> Hey, just did an 'apt-get update' on my Lucid install (which I do regularly) and noticed that version number changed (10.04 --> 10.04.1). Just curious: what specific update constitutes the .1 version change?
[05:04] <Izinucs> DasEi: by the way.. You're not highlighting me with my nick.. it's izinucs not lzinucs :)
[05:04] <bthornton> don't think I've ever seen that happen before
[05:05] <DasEi> Izinucs: aharr :) was about to plaster my tab, hehe
[05:05] <Izinucs> DasEi: it's actually my normal nick backwards.. different machine .. different nick
[05:07] <ZykoticK9> What's up with the version number? "lsb_release -d" in terminal is showing "Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS" currently.  But according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule 10.04.1 is suppose to be released on August 12th? bthornton
[05:08] <DanaG> Hmm, I tried using gnome-appearance-properties on an HD 5570 with 3 heads, and it only showed 2 monitors.  xrandr shows all 3.
[05:08] <FreshPrince> why is ubuntu 64-bit Not recommended for daily desktop usage ?
[05:08] <mikeru> Zykotick9: It's LYING
[05:08] <DanaG> This is with open-source driver.
[05:09] <ZykoticK9> FreshPrince, i agree with this "bug" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/585940
[05:10] <Adman65> what do i need to install to have a postgres client only?
[05:11] <A-Non> DasEi: Sorry my connection is terrible, drivers finished
[05:11] <DasEi> Izinucs: I just wonder about if the 185 would also support an fx 5500
[05:11] <mikeru> heyaaa
[05:11] <mikeru> anyone know a cpuz for linbux?
[05:11] <DasEi> A-Non: sudo apt-get install pastebintit
[05:12] <abhijit> Adman65, sudo apt-get install pgadmin3
[05:12] <DasEi> mikeru: benchmark/stresstest ?
[05:12] <abhijit> bye
[05:12] <DasEi> A-Non: sudo apt-get install pastebinit           **
[05:13] <mikeru> DasEi: wut?
[05:13] <Adman65> cool ty
[05:13] <DasEi> A-Non: pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup
[05:13] <KwikkSilva> So - i bridged my Solaris Server onto the Internet using my Dell Server, but the Solaris server got an ip of <IP_ADDRESS> via DHCP from the Dell Server (i think), whilst the rest of the network is on <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:13] <A-Non> DasEi: Yeah I figured there was a typo there, it's installed now
[05:13] <mikeru> I'm just trying to get info about two computers
[05:13] <mikeru> SysInfo is not that helpful though
[05:13] <KwikkSilva> So now no one else can ping the Solaris server - which is 'behind' the Dell, on anogther network
[05:13] <A-Non> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/0ncgMxAL
[05:14] <KwikkSilva> I'm trying to find out can i make the Saolaris server accessible somehow
[05:14] <DasEi> mikeru: I know cpuz, but that info will be collected from different corners, as a stresstest there is cpubutn (no parameters there, though)
[05:14] <FreshPrince> ZykoticK9, so what u think? should i get the 64-bit iso or not?, thats a joke, why it wouldn't be a good idea to use 64-bit for daily usage?
[05:14] <DasEi> mikeru: ah, try gnome-device-manager
[05:15] <DasEi> A-Non: and your current hardwaredrivers also sho same version as the download being in use ?
[05:15] <mikeru> DasEi: what I want to know is about motherboard memory - e.g. CPU-Z tells me its DDR 512MB Single channel frequency etc, while stupid SysInfo tells me Total: 1001 Swap total and thats all
[05:15] <ZykoticK9> FreshPrince, i use 64bit for my desktop.  i don't use 64bit on my htpc though, there are some emulators that are still 32bit only.  basically it's possible to use 64bit as well, or better then 32bit BUT it's more difficult to setup, thus "not recommended" or so the argument goes.
[05:15] <A-Non> DasEi: I think so yeah.
[05:16] <maco> FreshPrince: it says that mostly just to warn off people who dont know what 64bit is, because you can install 32bit on a 32 or 64 bit computer but not vice versa
[05:16] <DasEi> mikeru: free
[05:16] <maco> FreshPrince: other than that... proprietary software can be slightly more annoying on 64bit, but theres 64bit java now, and skype and flash both work, so...
[05:17] <mikeru> DasEi: I don't want to know how much memory I have. I want to know which type of memory it is.
[05:17] <mikeru> WHICH TYPE
[05:17] <maco> FreshPrince: ive used 64bit as my daily for 2 years now
[05:17] <mikeru> not how much I have
[05:17] <DasEi> mikeru: and under /proc you can find detailed infos
[05:17] <mikeru> ah!
[05:17] <FloodBot3> mikeru: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:17] <ZykoticK9> FreshPrince, for 32bit libraries on 64bit Ubuntu check out the script getlibs it almost essential for 32bit compatibility
[05:17] <DanaG> hmm, anyone know how to get gnome's display-properties thing to acknowledge the presence of 3 monitors (instead of just two)?
[05:17] <mikeru> DasEi: that's exactly what I wanted to know. but is there not any tool for it?
[05:17] <DasEi> mikeru : also hwinfo --vv
[05:17] <mikeru> I mean, raw proc is ugly
[05:18] <DasEi> mikeru: as said, different corners
[05:18] <mikeru> DasEi: I think hwinfo will be enough. thanks
[05:19] <DanaG> This is on a card that CAN do 3 monitors.
[05:19] <mikeru> DasEi: nevermind, hwinfo will not help.
[05:20] <FreshPrince> maco, ZykoticK9 , well i think, if u have a 64-bit computer, then u should use ubuntu 64-bit and not the 32-bit
[05:20] <FreshPrince> a bit flash problems etc thats solved
[05:20] <FreshPrince> so why not to use it :>
[05:20] <DanaG> Flash is not solved for me!
[05:20] <DanaG> I can't click on anything in Flash.  Adobe fail.
[05:20] <FreshPrince> not for u
[05:20] <FreshPrince> but for most other users in here
[05:20] <FreshPrince> :D
[05:20] <ZykoticK9> FreshPrince, i agree - but honestly, if you have less then 4G of memory you're probably best not to bother (unless you're planning on upgrading later ;)
[05:21] <DanaG> 64-bit does make some number-crunching faster, even given 2 gigs -- more registers to use.
[05:21] <FreshPrince> ZykoticK9, i have only 1gb memory, and i think i'm not going to upgrade for the next 5 years :D
[05:21] <ZykoticK9> DanaG, you can see if this applies/helps http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/clicking-in-flash-not-working  good luck
[05:21] <FreshPrince> ZykoticK9, so, i should use 32-bit if i have less than 4gb?
[05:21] <zfxp> How do i edit my motd file without going back to default?
[05:21] <DanaG>  Bad Request Error 400
[05:21] <Stupendoussteve> I would not use 64 bit with 1gb, 64 bit apps tend to use more memory
[05:22] <FreshPrince> Stupendoussteve, thats true
[05:22] <A-Non> DasEi: Did you look at that pastebin link?
[05:22] <FreshPrince> hm ok
[05:22] <FreshPrince> then i'm gonna dowenload the 32-bit
[05:22] <FreshPrince> *download
[05:22] <ZykoticK9> FreshPrince, it might speed up a couple of things (like encoding) but it's probably not worth the extra effort with only 1GB, 64bit requires more memory to run the same app as 32bit does!
[05:22] <DanaG> ah yeah, forgot that bit.
[05:22] <FreshPrince> ZykoticK9, ok
[05:23] <DanaG> The only "more memory" would come from pointers being 64-bit instead of 32-bit.
[05:23] <FreshPrince> the reason why i'm back to ubuntu is because i dont want to configure my whole system always on other distros :>
[05:23] <DanaG> The lack of 64-bit Firefox stuff is the bigger issue.
[05:23] <DasEi> A-Non: the xorg ? I did
[05:23] <FreshPrince> i think ubuntu should be "just working"
[05:23] <FreshPrince> without any problems
[05:23] <A-Non> DasEi: Okay, I didn't notice you say anything past that so I was just making sure it didn't get lost in the channel or something
[05:23] <Guest82193> i want go to ubuntu-tw
[05:23] <mssever> #jquery
[05:24] <Mr_Sonoma> Guest82193, /join #ubuntu-tw
[05:24] <Guest82193> thank you
[05:24] <Mr_Sonoma> np
[05:25] <dberg> I'm trying to change sessions but the screen goes blank. It's probably related to nvidia drivers. I had to add an edid file in xorg.conf for it work properly. any tips?
[05:25] <DasEi> A-Non: sry, was digging launchpad for 185 or higher in view of fx 5500, no, just newer gforces there
[05:26] <ZykoticK9> FreshPrince, the "just working" factor or Ubuntu is what brought ME from 5+ years of Gentoo.  Never been happier</ot>
[05:26] <KE1HA> Mr_Sonoma, did you get what you were looing for earlier? maco was correct abotu the runlevels on UB/DEB.
[05:26] <A-Non> DasEi: So driver 173 is as high as it goes for the FX 5500 then?
[05:27] <maco> FreshPrince: ive found memory consumption on 64bit to be quite a bit higher than on 32bit. it sorta forced me to upgrade from 2gb to 4
[05:27] <DasEi> A-Non: as far as I can see yes, next in apt is 185, that' wont do no  more
[05:27] <Mr_Sonoma> KE1HA, yes. sorta. i've got your work around and that'll work and that'll work for me. but it wasn't really what i was hoping for kinda thing.
[05:27] <A-Non> DasEi: Well if the drivers can't be helped, any other ideas why compiz won't load?
[05:27] <DasEi> A-Non: so as the 173 seems to be installed and other binary arethere , too, do : ctar-altF1
[05:28] <DasEi> A-Non: so as the 173 seems to be installed and other binary arethere , too, do : ctrl-alt-F1
[05:28] <jguzikowski_> how does one change your screen resolution in ubuntu?
[05:28] <ZykoticK9> FYI the update in Lucid to 10.04.1 is real, and not as suggested a lie.  The release was moved up.
[05:28] <mikeru> DasEi: lshw-gtk is the answer. and it's in the repos (and apparently the cli version is installed by default)
[05:28] <A-Non> DasEi: Ctrl+Alt+F1 doesn't seem to do anything
[05:28] <KE1HA> Mr_Sonoma, understand, Im not used to that either, but it is what it is I suppose.
[05:28] <DasEi> A-Non: should bring you out of x
[05:29] <mikeru> A-Non: black screen? or stays the same?
[05:29] <DasEi> A-Non: sudo nvidia-settings (for the first run)
[05:29] <A-Non> mikeru: stays exactly the same
[05:29] <jguzikowski_> can anyone just tell me how to change your resolution in gnome?
[05:29] <DasEi> mikeru : lspci is most common, nice gui, too
[05:29] <A-Non> DasEi: I'm in nvidia settings
[05:29] <ZykoticK9> jguzikowski, System / Preferences / Monitors
[05:29] <Mr_Sonoma> KE1HA, yea maybe we should make a suggestion that they give that option on the log on screen. seems like it used to be there (atleast on kde) or am i wrong about that?
[05:30] <jguzikowski_> ZykoticK9, thank you
[05:30] <mikeru> DasEi: iknow, but as I said, I need to know which type of RAM. not which devices are there
[05:30] <mikeru> Type of RAM
[05:30] <DasEi> A-Non: check settings, see if monitor is correctely found, save to xorg
[05:30] <A-Non> DasEi: My driver version is 173.14.22, and the downloaded is 173.14.25m I guess the download IS newer, at least by a bit
[05:30] <BentFrank> Does gateway <IP_ADDRESS>. go in /etc/network/interfaces under eth0?
[05:30] <mikeru> COLORS I HAZ DEM
[05:30] <A-Non> DasEi: Monitor is correctly found
[05:30] <DasEi> A-Non: hm, want to install ? np..
[05:31] <FreshPrince> ZykoticK9, i'm also an ex gentoo user, i just want a distro that just works, without to configure things all the time like u said -> gentoo -.- thats because ubuntu is great!
[05:31] <ispot> how to redirect the tty to console , on boot time?
[05:31] <A-Non> DasEi: How do I install it?
[05:31] <KE1HA> Mr_Sonoma, not sure. I dont do allot of desktop work, most of my installs are without X, so I use the basics on desktops, and that's about it.
[05:31] <mikeru> ehyyyy
[05:31] <mikeru> hey
[05:31] <FreshPrince> ZykoticK9, ubuntu runs i386? would that run slower then my archlinux which is i686?
[05:32] <mikeru> is DIMM SDRAM the same as DDR?
[05:32] <ZykoticK9> FreshPrince, the i386 is a lie!  it's i686 really.
[05:32] <IdleOne> mikeru: ##hardware
[05:32] <tensorpudding> not necessarily
[05:32] <tensorpudding> ^ mikeru
[05:32] <mikeru> tensorpudding: ohshi
[05:32] <mikeru> then
[05:32] <Mr_Sonoma> KE1HA, i've got a few that have no x but this want was for my home desktop and there i use the GUI 50% of the time. I'm gonna keep googling i can't be the only one that wants that option at log in
[05:32] <DasEi> a-non: I'm getting tired  (it's 6.30 am here), go back to hardwaredrivers, disable current one(s), back to this cmd-line, stop gdm, then on the d/l : sudo sh nvidiaBlah.run
[05:32] <BentFrank> Does "gateway <IP_ADDRESS>" go in /etc/network/interfaces under eth0 (typically for home net)?
[05:32] <mikeru> I think it is DDR
[05:32] <FreshPrince> ZykoticK9, a lie? i'm downlaoding ubuntu.10.04-i386.iso :p
[05:33] <mikeru> but it only says DIMM SDRAM
[05:33] <tensorpudding> mikeru: count the notches
[05:33] <ispot> hello, who knows how to redirect the tty to console , on boot time?
[05:33] <mikeru> Synchronous
[05:33] <tensorpudding> mikeru: if it has two notches, it is regular SDRAM
[05:33] <Drewseph> Hello. Don't know if anyone in here would be able to help me with this one or not as its to do with XAMPP, but maybe someone knows xD. As stated, I am running XAMPP to host a web server off my Ubuntu box. Everything is running great, except for the fact that no matter what I do, port 80 cannot seem to be accessed. Forwarded, listen is set to 80, ISP does not block it. Anyone know anything about that? Sorry if I shouldn't of asked that her
[05:33] <A-Non> DasEi: That is pretty late/early... I'll run that
[05:33] <FreshPrince> maco, i have 1gb memory about 8 years now on my machine.. and i think i'm not going to upgrade for the next 5 years :D
[05:33] <DasEi> a-non: then again nvidia-settings as root, then start gdm again
[05:33] <KE1HA> Mr_Sonoma, Would ne a nice feature fer sure.
[05:33] <mikeru> tensorpudding: I'm noobish noobish in that stuff. what are the notches :P ?
[05:33] <mikeru> ah
[05:33] <FreshPrince> maco, to lazy :p
[05:33] <maco> FreshPrince: yeah i dont think you want the bigger pointers that 64bit involves then
[05:33] <mikeru> tensorpudding: you mean, the separations?
[05:34] <FreshPrince> maco, nope :>
[05:34] <tensorpudding> mikeru: in the interface where the pins are, there should be some separations, yeah
[05:34] <mikeru> tensorpudding: Oh. and DDR is how many notches?
[05:34] <IdleOne> mikeru: How is different types of RAM Ubuntu related?
[05:35] <Guest82193> Mr_Sonoma,I am not np
[05:35] <mikeru> IdleOne: well, I'm trying to change two computers RAM for moar ram in ubuntu
[05:35] <FreshPrince> ZykoticK9, check your "uname -a" did u see i686 there?
[05:36] <DasEi> mikeru: more #hardware , ddr is one , sd-ram has two nothes
[05:36] <IdleOne> mikeru: still has nothing to do with Ubuntu support
[05:36] <DasEi> ches*
[05:36] <Sedated> mikeru, ddr is 1 notch, sdram is 2 notches
[05:36] <mikeru> w.e.
[05:36] <ZykoticK9> FreshPrince, no because i'm running 64 so i see x86_64
[05:36] <mikeru> @Sedated @DasEi @tensorpudding thank you.
[05:37] <ZykoticK9> FreshPrince, pretty sure it will show up as x86 which will actually be i686, i386 is totally outdated at this point!
[05:37] <mikeru> @IdleOne: oh, but I'm asking how to know by software and apparently there's no way, at least in ubuntu
[05:37] <mikeru> so
[05:38] <ZykoticK9> mikeru, FYI i've tried to find the type of memory info previously... and failed.  I was hoping someone was going to have an answer for ya.
[05:38] <mikeru> IdleOne: scroll back up, and see that I was trying to see which type of RAM it was from ubuntu
[05:39] <maco> mikeru: sudo lshw -c memory
[05:39] <maco> mikeru: thats not enough detail?
[05:39] <mikeru> hmm... lshw-gtk does say SODIMM DDR2for my mac
[05:39] <mikeru> maco: it says DIMM SDRAM, which apparently is not DDr
[05:40] <DasEi> mikeru: so you got it then, ask on in #hardware
[05:40] <ZykoticK9> maco, you da man!  (yes i see the irony ;)
[05:40] <maco> mikeru: mine gets as specific as:  description: SODIMM DDR2 Synchronous 667 MHz (1.5 ns)
[05:40] <FreshPrince> ZykoticK9, ok :), u know i like my current distro, but its terrible if nothing works correctly and u have to manually config all the things, and i didnt have the time to do that
[05:40] <mib_mib> hi can someone help me debug a cron job problem? I have a current job that i am just testing, added line * *  * * * /usr/bin/ruby /path/to/myjob.rb -- but it doens't seem to run, what am i doing wrong?
[05:40] <mikeru> maco:          description: SODIMM DDR2 Synchronous 800 MHz (1.2 ns)
[05:41] <mikeru> but that's my mac, the PC (quite ironically considering support for macs) says not much.
[05:41] <maco> macs arent pcs? news to me
[05:41] <ZykoticK9> FreshPrince, sorry man chatting about this is really offtopic for this channel.  but i certainly agree with your statment.
[05:41] <john38> can you hook up SATA and SATA 3.0gb/s to SATA 6gb/s
[05:42] <FreshPrince> ZykoticK9, life is to short to compile hours (gentoo) that because i left gentoo and went to archlinux
[05:42] <FreshPrince> :>
[05:42] <tensorpudding> PC is an obnoxious term that no longer has any meaning except "a computer which Windows runs on"
[05:42] <FreshPrince> yes offtopic
[05:42] <FreshPrince> sry
[05:42] <john38> its backward compatible isnt it
[05:42] <mikeru> maco: OH I'm so sorry to use wrong terminology.  I meant Macs are abnormal PCs that do not use BIOS
[05:42] <DanaG> A mac IS a PC made by Apple.
[05:42] <DanaG> EFI is a type of BIOS, actually -- at least that's my impression.
[05:43] <DanaG> My EliteBook has UEFI support, though it's broken -- so I have to boot with the "CSM" (Compatibility something-or-other) in old-fashioned BIOS mode.
[05:43] <maco> tensorpudding: more general than that. a computer thats .. basically not a mainframe, dedicated server, or embedded
[05:43] <SubCool> Ok- here is a question. If i were to install VNC, how would i install it so that the services are running before login- or is that not possible, and id have to setup the box to auto log in
[05:43] <john38> can you hook up SATA and SATA 3.0gb/s to SATA 6gb/s
[05:43] <john38> its backward compatible isnt it
[05:43] <tensorpudding> EFI is not a type of BIOS in the same way that a motorcycle is not a type of bicycle
[05:44] <mikeru> sorry, lemme change again words. I meant PCs made by Apple have weird issues that other brands of PCs seem not to exhibit
[05:44] <mikeru> happieh?
[05:44] <maco> mikeru: apples are oddly popular among linux folks, so they tend to have pretty darned good linux support
[05:44] <crk> durp
[05:44] <maco> (buy hardware from the most proprietary company, then put a free os on it....O_o)
[05:45] <tensorpudding> Now that they use Intel processors they're easy to support
[05:45] <mikeru> maco: some do, yet some have horrid. I had to literally compile my own grub-efi to get mine to work
[05:45] <crk> apple=expensive for no good reason
[05:45] <john38> <<waiting for Imacs with six-core
[05:45] <DanaG> Good luck on that.
[05:45] <DanaG> You're better off going with other brands.
[05:46] <mikeru> maco: and EFI is not well supported AFAIK. since mine won't run in BIOS mode, I have to use EFI boot.
[05:46] <DanaG> tensorpudding: that's a good analogy, that motorcycle one.
[05:46] <john38> can you hook up SATA and SATA 3.0gb/s to SATA 6gb/s
[05:46] <john38> its backward compatible isnt it
[05:46] <DanaG> UEFI support is a goal for Maverick.
[05:46] <mikeru> I'd love that
[05:46] <maco> mikeru: i think grub2 is supposed to work with efi, and refit is the usual thing for making stuff go, but last week i watched someone install ubuntu on his macbook without using refit first, just a normal ubuntu livecd install. uncertain as to whether dual boots can be done this way though
[05:47] <ZykoticK9> john38, try asking in ##hardware for a more decisive answer, but i "believe" SATA is forward/backwards compatible (but not the speeds obviously).
[05:47] <mikeru> particularly, I dislike that after starting X all ttys are toast
[05:48] <john38> ZykoticK9, ok
[05:48] <john38> cant join hardware
[05:48] <ZykoticK9> !register | john38
[05:48] <DanaG> Yeah, should be compatible on SATA.
[05:48] <mikeru> maco: the normal procedure for macs is refit with normal ubuntu install. refit will show grub2 in MBR to boot ubuntu.
[05:48] <greezmunkey> !register > greezmunkey
[05:49] <maco> mikeru: refit wasnt needed for this person though.  he didnt dual boot though, did a full-disk install for ubuntu. so maybe its only needed for dual boots? this was with 10.04
[05:49] <ZykoticK9> greezmunkey, if you want to send yourself a bot message you can use "/msg ubottu WHATYOURLOOKINGFOR" and it won't show up in the channel ;)
[05:49] <mikeru> however, this macbook in specific (5,2) has a weird bug that will not let it boot that way, unless you disable a core or ACPI, or boot from grub-efi (which is another binary not in the mbr)
[05:49] <mikeru> maco: that's why. refit is for ease of dual booting
[05:49] <greezmunkey> sorry about that, my bad.
[05:50] <ZykoticK9> greezmunkey, no reason to be sorry.  i was just sharing a tip.
[05:50] <picard1421> anybody have a good guide for setting up openVPN that changes RSA keyts every 20 mins.. if im using a service do they set that up the changing keys???
[05:50] <mib_mib> how do i enable the cron logs in ubuntu?
[05:50] <greezmunkey> ZykoticK9: it's all good! Thank you.
[05:50] <picard1421> basically i want to use the VPN to connect to a service.. what do i need to setup on my end.. and also how can i make it so that the computer will not connect to the internet unless its on the VPN?
[05:50] <picard1421> (of course make all data also tunnel through taht place too?
[05:51] <mikeru> maco: I'm telling you, however, this mac can't use the grub included with ubuntu (grub-pc) because it runs in BIOS mode. it needs grub-efi which (obviously) runs in EFI mode.
[05:51] <thefinn931> help! I can't burn an ISO. There just *isn't an option* to do it. Everywhere i look it says to right click and pick write to disk or something but there is no such option. what should i do?
[05:52] <mikeru> stupid me typed shitdown on a terminal :P
[05:52] <maco> mikeru: okie doo
[05:52] <mikeru> hey, what's the difference between halt and poweroff?
[05:52] <ZykoticK9> thefinn931, applications / sound & video / Brasero - does it have an option to burn ISOs?  (i don't currently have it installed to check)
[05:53] <dberg> when I press Ctrl+Alt+F1 the screen is blank. How can I start it with the option "nomodeset"?
[05:53] <thefinn931> it's not there. Maybe i should install it?
[05:53] <thefinn931> @ZykoticK9
[05:53] <joren> mikeru, looks like no difference to me.. judging by the --help
[05:53]  * joren didn't know there was such a thing as poweroff
[05:54] <ZykoticK9> thefinn931, what ubuntu version ubuntu/kubuntu/etc are you using?
[05:54] <thefinn931> Ubuntu 10.04
[05:54] <ZykoticK9> thefinn931, personally i use k3b (which requires ALL the KDE libraries) for burning, but gnome-burner or something, is a popular Gnome based burner.
[05:55] <thefinn931> thanks ZykoticK9
[05:55] <IdleOne> gnomebaker
[05:55] <ZykoticK9> IdleOne, thanks
[05:55] <thefinn931> alright
[05:55] <mikeru> joren: and it's one of those weird commands that are symlinks - both point to reboot
[05:55] <thefinn931> i'll try those
[05:55] <[thor]> brasero should come with the stock 10.04
[05:56] <ZykoticK9> thefinn931, i would recommend against k3b, unless you understand that installing kde libs is a lot do download/update all the time ;)
[05:56] <thefinn931> yeah i'm not gonna do that
[05:56] <mikeru> but pidof is the weirdest. pidof is a symlink to killall5. if it detects it was invoked as pidof it tells the pid by its process name, yet if invoked as killall5 it kills all programs and logs you out
[05:56] <[thor]> thefinn931:  try popping in a blank DVD/CD
[05:56] <manolo> como escuchar Radio en UBUNTU
[05:56] <thefinn931> [thor] doing so now...
[05:57] <joren> mikeru, nope, they are all different binaries, which is the really weird thing
[05:57] <thefinn931> @[thor]: this came up
[05:57] <thefinn931> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3267301/Screenshot-Blank%20CD-R%20Disc.png
[05:57] <ZykoticK9> thefinn931, OR try typing "brasero" in terminal or alt+f2, it has an ISO burn option.
[05:57] <homunculus> Hi there, I'm hoping someone can help me with my issue: I have a DLink PCI wireless adapter (the result of 'lspci' returns: Texas Instruments ACX 111 54mbps Wireless Adapter) As you can see, it is listed and recognized, but in my network options/ network manager there is no wireless interface to be seen, just my loopback and eth0. I am running 10.04, fresh install; I have browsed the forums, but a good portion of what the t
[05:57] <homunculus> hreads are asking me to do is a little over my head right now. Does anyone know how to get this card to work?
[05:57] <mikeru> joren: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 2010-05-21 21:35 /bin/pidof -> /sbin/killall5*
[05:58] <joren> mikeru, at least as far as poweroff, halt, reboot goes
[05:58] <mikeru> joren: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2010-05-21 21:35 /sbin/poweroff -> reboot*
[05:58] <mikeru> joren: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2010-05-21 21:35 /sbin/halt -> reboot*
[05:58] <picard1421> can anyone help?
[05:58] <[thor]> thefinn931: does that dropdown include "Burn with Brasero" ?
[05:58] <thefinn931> no
[05:58] <ZykoticK9> homunculus, you have tried right clicking on the network icon and seeing if "enable wireless" changes anything.
[05:58] <thefinn931> i dont think so. i just closed it but im checking again
[05:59] <Crowhunter> how do I register my nick
[05:59] <joren> mikeru oh heh, ya, sorry. I'm talking out of my ass.. I just saw them each with a different man page, and different heading on the --help. really strange indeed
[05:59] <homunculus> ZykoticK9 yes, i've tried clicking and perusing everything network-related. I have even downloaded additional wireless utilites to see if they recognized it, and they do not.
[05:59] <ZykoticK9> !register | Crowhunter
[06:00] <ZykoticK9> homunculus, ok, i have nothing.  i was just checking the obvious, sorry you're having a tough time.
[06:00] <mikeru> AGH. I hate it. everyone's computer is acceptable: it has 1GB DDR2, Nvidia 9400GT 512MB - but stupid celeron 32bits 1.50Ghz
[06:00] <homunculus> heh, no worries, thanks for trying anyways :)
[06:01] <mikeru> this other computer: DDR1 512MB, Intel GMA, but Pentium D 64-bit 2-cores 2.66Ghz
[06:01] <mikeru> what shall I do?
[06:01] <picard1421> is there a way to lock a computer in ubuntu unless you "swipe" a magnetic strip card or biometric reader
[06:01] <[thor]> mikeru: MAME console :D
[06:01] <maco> mikeru: upgrade the latter's ram and be happy to have graphics with very good open drivers?
[06:02] <picard1421> ??
[06:02] <SubCool> did anyone answer me?
[06:02] <maco> picard1421: and disable password? not sure. you can definitely use a fingerprint reader with the screen lock though
[06:02] <mikeru> [thor] / maco: cannut. I have to give one to my grandma xd
[06:02] <mikeru> SubCool: what did you ask?
[06:02] <picard1421> maco: im talking without GNome
[06:02] <picard1421> ...
[06:02] <maco> picard1421: yes...?
[06:03] <maco> picard1421: the screenlock on gnome screensaver can use a fingerprint reader. ive seen it done
[06:03] <picard1421> mac: with no "GUI" its just like the server edition but before it says password.. please put on finger.. or swipe card
[06:03] <SubCool> Ok- here is a question. If i were to install VNC, how would i install it so that the services are running before login- or is that not possible, and id have to setup the box to auto log in
[06:03] <maco> picard1421: oh. dont know about that. not sure how you have gnome with gui either, but....
[06:03] <maco> SubCool: /etc/rc.local might help
[06:04] <SubCool> well, i was just wondering if it was possible,
[06:04] <SubCool> maco, because of security...
[06:04] <joren> picard1421, I had thinkfinger working a while back
[06:04] <ZykoticK9> SubCool, what do you mean "before" login?  I think there is something you can install that will allow VNC to connect to the GDM login screen (but not 100% on that).  If you mean before X starts - not possible.
[06:04] <joren> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_enable_the_fingerprint_reader_with_ThinkFinger
[06:04] <mib_mib> can someone help me debug a cron problem? I have a cron job running, and i have enabled cron logs, but nothing seems to be happening
[06:05] <mib_mib> I see the jobs in /var/log/cron.log
[06:05] <mib_mib> and i dn't see any errors or anything
[06:05] <maco> ZykoticK9: are you thinking of xrdcp? thats very insecure and i dont think the new gdm supports it
[06:05] <SubCool> ZykoticK9, not necessarily before xstarts, just so that if the box gets rebooted, i can still log in remotely
[06:05] <ZykoticK9> maco, no not xrdcp, it's some vnc/gdm package of some sort.
[06:06] <SubCool> i made a service from the instruction that will initialize the server after login, but i dont believe before login.
[06:06] <ZykoticK9> maco, perhaps i'm wrong, do you know what x11vnc does?
[06:06] <maco> ZykoticK9: nope
[06:06] <SubCool> x11? wow- they are going everywhere
[06:06] <SubCool> i remember them being those stupid crapy video cams
[06:06] <Crowhunter> now that my nick is registerd do I have to use password everytime I use irc ?  how do I use password on my nick?
[06:06] <ZykoticK9> SubCool, if i where you i'd research x11vnc and find out what it does.  good luck.
[06:07] <picard1421> how about with Magnetic swipe?
[06:07] <SubCool> ZykoticK9, ty!
[06:07] <maco> SubCool: huh? wat about x11 and cams?
[06:07] <xangua> Crowhunter: your irc client should have an option to set your password
[06:07] <picard1421> like a Credit Card Reader but obviously not for credit cards.. is there any drivers for that?
[06:07] <greezmunkey> Crowhunter: check this link out: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - I was just looking into the same thing!
[06:08] <maco> picard1421: itd depend on the exact one i think, but plenty of hackers use linux to hack things with magstripes, rfid, etc. so im sure such devices exist that are linux compatible
[06:08] <ZykoticK9> maco, i think SubCool is combining x11 (xorg) with x11 (remote audio/video/control thing)
[06:09] <maco> ZykoticK9: oh. didnt know the latter existed
[06:09] <SubCool> Maco lol- ya
[06:10] <SubCool> they came out like 13 years ago. They were sold in 5 -10 peice sets..
[06:10] <greezmunkey> maco: heh, x11 I think hoped their stuff would catch on, wifi and bluetooth kind of buried them.
[06:10] <SubCool> kinda expensive-
[06:10] <SubCool> greezmunkey, welll it did help get cams out there. but that system was crap. and the cameras were HUGE.
[06:10] <picard1421> just looking for a program that works with any mag reader (ill buy one thats compatible).. buy some mag cards.. and then basically for login Swip your card..
[06:10] <zenlunatic> Crowhunter, /msg nickserv help
[06:10] <picard1421> program the card for login?
[06:11] <maco> picard1421: you might have better luck on ubuntuforums.org ... clearly nobody who's ever needed to do what you're doing is on irc right now
[06:11] <greezmunkey> SubCool: yup :) I almost (almost) carried their line in my business. Dodged that bullet though!
[06:11] <SubCool> picard1421,  lol- nice idea. y not step up to facial recog, or smartcard?
[06:11] <FullFlannelJacke> anyone here use daily Chromium PPA builds?  if so, are you having problems with page rendering (especially on forums)?
[06:11] <zenlunatic> picard1421, biometrics are easier
[06:11] <picard1421> wel facial recognition would be INSANE
[06:11] <albertolempira> i'm trying to listen US radio stations online outside american territory with no success, anybody know a way to get this done? thanks in advance
[06:11] <picard1421> is there such tools out there that are reasonably priced?
[06:12] <SubCool> greezmunkey, i started trying to sell their product until my father bough a 7 piece package for like 600$, found out it was cheaper and easier just to goto the store adn buy web cams
[06:12] <maco> albertolempira: you're looking for a proxy. google can help you find a billion of them
[06:12] <SubCool> bought*
[06:12] <greezmunkey> SubCool: nice.
[06:12] <SubCool> greezmunkey, i wanted to create a video survaience for my car- but the cameras were too big.
[06:13] <SubCool> wasnt each camera the size of a tennis ball or something?
[06:13] <albertolempira> well, i've tried with no success, is it possible to do this with free proxies?
[06:13] <albertolempira> maco well, i've tried with no success, is it possible to do this with free proxies?
[06:13] <BLW> can anyone help me with getting my eyetoy installed in ubuntu 9.04, whenever i go into to cheese it says no camera found, i have had it working on my other computer just fine. i tried also installing the ov51x drivers and when i would get to where you have to sudo modprobe i2c_core and onward it gives me a not found error. also i checked in gnome-device-manger to see if it shows up and it is. thanks
[06:14] <zenlunatic> SubCool, maybe learn how to spell first
[06:14] <SubCool> zenlunatic, never
[06:14] <maco> albertolempira: itd all depend on how the software youre using works. if its web based then a web proxy'd be fine. if not, then you need some other proxy
[06:14] <DanaG> Pentium D: because one P4 didn't heat up the room enough.
[06:15] <maco> zenlunatic: hey hey be nice
[06:15] <albertolempira> maco any recommended proxy list site or something like that?
[06:15] <DanaG> mikeru: you still around? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Specs/MaverickUefiSupport
[06:15] <zenlunatic> maco, just saying if you cant spell how the you gonna setup mobile video surveillance
[06:15] <maco> albertolempira: nope. what you want to do is questionable in its legality
[06:16] <maco> zenlunatic: spelling, believe it or not, is not correlated to overall intelligence
[06:16] <greezmunkey> zeltak: g-o-o-g-l-e-s-t-r-e-e-t-s
[06:16] <SubCool> ZykoticK9, not to ask a stupid question, but since im good at it. What would i google? x11vnc pre bootscreen?
[06:16] <SubCool> Maco just laziness
[06:16] <ZykoticK9> zenlunatic, please drop the spelling rant.  I can't spell either.  should i just leave the channel then?
[06:16] <SubCool> or a crappy keyboard
[06:17] <zenlunatic> ZykoticK9, yes
[06:17] <DanaG> goog le streets?
[06:17] <BentFrank> New 10.4 install.  Need to mount cifs and nfs.  What do I need to apt-get?
[06:17] <zenlunatic> maco, o really where did you read that usa today?
[06:17] <DanaG> I'll goog your streets!
[06:17] <maco> zenlunatic: heck, some people cant spell english words because english is their second or third or fourth language. are they low-intelligence too?
[06:17] <albertolempira> maco wow, i didn't know that. Why is it wrong?
[06:17] <orangeglo>  how can i format my HDD to ntfs??
[06:17] <zenlunatic> maco good point
[06:17] <ZykoticK9> zenlunatic, fine.  CYA everyone.
[06:17] <mikeru> DanaG: that would be nice
[06:17] <mikeru> i hope they really do
[06:17] <SubCool> ol
[06:17] <SubCool> lol
[06:18] <zenlunatic> omg
[06:18] <DanaG> Too bad my EFI is broken... framebuffer claims to be at 0x0.
[06:18] <Crowhunter> is there a way to make a shortcut for my wow.exe to my desktop from the world of warcraft folder?  did not install wow in wine it was copied from windows pc to this ubuntu pc
[06:18] <maco> albertolempira: if its only licensed for broadcast in one region, you may be breaching copyright laws
[06:18] <DanaG> Here's what I mean by "broken": http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itpronetworking/thread/fefe7c7b-8c9d-472f-9589-327d32f30b06
[06:18] <Guest27148> hi guys
[06:19] <Guest27148> please help me getting xen installed on lucid
[06:19] <klb3713> hi, everyone!
[06:19] <maco> zenlunatic: please have a read of the CoC and channel guidelines, linked in the topic
[06:19] <BentFrank> New 10.4 install.  Need to mount cifs and nfs.  What do I need to apt-get?
[06:20] <zenlunatic> maco please dont play wannabe op
[06:20] <albertolempira> maco it's good to know that. I didn't know it. thanks
[06:20] <maco> zenlunatic: what do you mean "wannabe"?
[06:21] <greezmunkey> oops...
[06:21] <JustMozzy> good morning everyone
[06:21] <zenlunatic> maco okay :D
[06:21]  * maco ^5 IdleOne
[06:21] <crk> durp
[06:21] <mikeru> maco is indeed op.
[06:21] <zenlunatic> yes
[06:21] <IdleOne> zenlunatic: I strongly suggest you adjust your attitude and response to a more Ubuntu one.
[06:21] <maco> its just bad form for me +o to be threatening, so i didnt
[06:22] <mikeru> zenlunatic for human beings
[06:22] <zenlunatic> hm forgot where i was
[06:22] <greezmunkey> zenlunatic: a bright corner in an otherwise dark and scary Internet...
[06:22] <JustMozzy> I am having two issues. the first one is that I am connecting a 2nd monitor to my laptop, however I would like to have 2 desktops rather than an extended one. is that possible?
[06:22] <BLW> can anyone help me with getting my eyetoy installed in ubuntu 9.04, whenever i go into to cheese it says no camera found, i have had it working on my other computer just fine. i tried also installing the ov51x drivers and when i would get to where you have to sudo modprobe i2c_core and onward it gives me a not found error. also i checked in gnome-device-manger to see if it shows up and it is. thanks
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> BLW: if you run: lsusb  you will see the 8 character hex id, you can websearch that to find guides
[06:23] <Swish> cour
[06:23] <BLW> thank you
[06:23] <Swish> w/w, sorry :)
[06:23] <picard1421> i saw the APP pam face authentication.. is there anyway to get this to work without a GUI?
[06:24] <picard1421> is there like anyway to possibly have a GUI login that kills to terminal after login?
[06:24] <dfrank> dear All! Hello. I've got a question. There's utility NetworkManager in Ubuntu. I have set up wifi WPA connection, works fine. But i can't find, where's result config? For example, in Slackware i have set up wifi WPA by editing configs in /etc/wpa_supplicant . In ubuntu this directory also exists, but there's no configs in it. Tell me please, where is NetworkManager configs?
[06:24] <So_Confused> Hi... am I in the ubuntu help channel?
[06:25] <maco> So_Confused: yes
[06:25] <SubCool> nope- hell
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> dfrank: i think its in gconf someplace, just let gnome do its thing and you'll be fine