[06:05] <Pelo> pchilds,  http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[06:05] <IndyGunFreak> denhart: honestly, Mint should be fine
[06:05] <Chadarius> seravitae: su - mythtv? If you used the "-" there it won't work
[06:05] <seravitae> hm
[06:05] <cables> denhart, PLEASE just answer our questions. We're not actually supposed to help mint users in here, but we're trying to help you... what software are you trying to install?
[06:05] <Chadarius> seravitae: just so su mythtv
[06:05] <denhart> i'm trying to install winamp, murrinacobalt, and vortigo
[06:06] <cables> denhart, winamp isn't a Linux program
[06:06] <seravitae> Chadarius:  'su mythtv' doesnt work either
[06:06] <denhart> why can't you help mint users cable???
[06:06] <seravitae> i dont know the password.
[06:06] <IndyGunFreak> oh i got a headache.
[06:06] <cables> seravitae, sudo mythtv
[06:06] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[06:06] <cables> !sudo | seravitae
[06:06] <ubotu> seravitae: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:06] <Chadarius> seravitae: might have to put sudo in front of that
[06:06] <Pelo> denhart, this is the ubuntu channel,  not the mint channel
[06:06] <IndyGunFreak> denhart: what linux programs are you trying to install.
[06:06] <seravitae> sudo mythtv is a command, not entering a user state
[06:06] <Chadarius> seravitae: "sudo su mythtv"
[06:06] <denhart> i read that mint and ubuntu are basically the same
[06:07] <Warbo> anyone know if it's possible to recover messages that GAIM doesn't send? I spent ages writing something and, still used to Kopete's automatic splitting up of messages that are too large for a protocol, pressed enter and the entire thing was replaced by a little bit of red text saying "Message too long" :(
[06:07] <cables> denhart, Mint is an unsupported derivative... you could always just use Ubuntu and we'd tell you how to install the multimedia codecs Mint provides
[06:07] <IndyGunFreak> denhart: they are.
[06:07] <cables> denhart, they are the same, but not technically the same
[06:07] <IndyGunFreak> basically
[06:07] <seravitae> got it
[06:07] <seravitae> thanks guys
[06:07] <Chadarius> seravitae: additionally you should look into just adding your user ID to the mythtv group
[06:07] <Matt101> anyone use gyachi
[06:07] <Chadarius> seravitae: anytime!
[06:07] <denhart> so should i uninstall mint and use ubuntu
[06:07] <cables> denhart, no, just don't mention you use mint when you ask for help here :)
[06:08] <Pelo> denhart,  or get hep from a mint channel
[06:08] <denhart> oh ok???
[06:08] <syock> I need help here: the script /etc/acpi/suspend.d/55-down-interfaces.sh saves some value to INTERFACES, and the script /etc/acpi/resume.d/62-ifup.sh is supposed to load the value of INTERFACES to restart all the network interfaces. But someone told me that variables in subshells are local so how is the whole suspend routine supposed to work?
[06:08] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: is there one?
[06:08] <denhart> so mint and ubuntu works the same as far as installing, etc.
[06:08] <cables> denhart, so just to tell you, winamp is not a Linux program.
[06:08] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak,  not my problem
[06:08] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[06:08] <cables> denhart, to install anything, go to Applications>Add/REmove
[06:08] <denhart> hmmm it says it was on the website
[06:09] <cables> the winamp website makes me want to cry
[06:09] <IndyGunFreak> cables: anything that starts with WIN makes me want to cry
[06:09] <denhart> i have deleted some programs and installed some programs that came with linux already
[06:09] <Warbo> XMMS, BMP, even VLC can all use Winamp skins
[06:09] <Xenguy> cables: I assumed winamp was somehow p0wn3d by now
[06:10] <Xenguy> cables: for no particular reason :-)
[06:10] <cables> denhart, can you be more specific about your problem? What are you trying to do, and what happened?
[06:10] <IndyGunFreak> cables: thats what is annoyng the hell outta me
[06:11] <denhart> i like linux even though it took half of what hd drive i have left but i cannot seem to get the basics
[06:11] <Warbo> Xenguy: I know loads of people who use Winamp. They are the people who take their music 'seriously', compared with everyone else who uses Windows Media Player (except for those that I convert to Ubuntu of course)
[06:11] <Pelo> denhart, http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84
[06:11] <denhart> well after downloading the programs....i don't know how to install them
[06:11] <cables> denhart, to install programs in Ubuntu, use Applications menu > Add/Remove Software
[06:11] <Pelo> denhart, http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[06:11] <cables> denhart, you don't download them
[06:12] <Xenguy> Warbo: they aren't running Ubu tho I assume ?
[06:12] <IndyGunFreak> denhart: you need to learn how to compile
[06:12] <cables> IndyGunFreak, NOOO!
[06:12] <IndyGunFreak> cables: lol
[06:12] <denhart> ok???
[06:12] <whyameye> IndyGunFreak: most users shouldn't need to learn to compile in ubuntu.
[06:12] <IndyGunFreak> cables: i think thats his problem..., he's downloading tgzs, and thats his issue.
[06:12] <IndyGunFreak> whyameye: i agree
[06:12] <cables> denhart, in Ubuntu, you don't download the software manually. You install it through Applications>Add/Remove Software
[06:12] <Pelo> if denhart  is smart he will check out the links I gave him which explains everything he needs to know
[06:12] <Warbo> Xenguy: I've got 2 people at least at University using Ubuntu.... so far :) (and the Free Software Society I've formed hasn't even had its first meeting yet!)
[06:13] <Xenguy> .oO(rtfm)
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: i don't think he's smart...lol
[06:13] <denhart> i only have 1 tgz....and some wsz's and a rpm
[06:13] <Xenguy> Warbo: yay
[06:13] <Pelo> denhart,  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[06:13] <cables> denhart, you shouldn't have them... you should be using the Applications>Add/Remove... tool
[06:13] <g4h> hey folks...I would use chown to change directory permissions, right?
[06:13] <firebird84> has anyone gotten ubuntu working on a 8800GTX card?
[06:13] <Xenguy> Warbo: hope it goes well
[06:13] <Pelo> g4h,  chmod
[06:13] <Warbo> g4h: use the -R option to go throuh them recursively (so yes)
[06:14] <denhart> gee thanks indy.........sorry i'm a newbie
[06:14] <Warbo> Xenguy: Thanks
[06:14] <Xenguy> Warbo: I'm a self-confessed FOSS fanatic I think ;-)
[06:14] <just-testing> g4h: chown is to change ownership
[06:14] <IndyGunFreak> denhart: well, we all have to face the reality that we jumped headfirst into a pool with no water.
[06:14] <IndyGunFreak> spend some time googling
[06:14] <Pelo> Xenguy,  I think you mean self-professed
[06:14] <Xenguy> Pelo: that too ;-)
[06:14] <cables> denhart, you shouldn't be downloading files in order to install software. You should use Applications>Add/Remove. That way they'll get updated automatically, and can be uninstalled from the same place.
[06:15] <seravitae> hmm
[06:15] <denhart> ok cables and how do i do that
[06:15] <seravitae> i have to 'arrange for a user to have access to my x display'... any pointers?
[06:15] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[06:15] <cables> denhart, Applications>Add/REmove
[06:15] <denhart> should i delete what i've downloaded
[06:15] <cables> denhart, not just yet, just go to where I'm telling you
[06:15] <cables> denhart, search for and check off the software you want to install, and hit apply
[06:15] <Pelo> cables,  not all software is avalable in the repos,  sometimes you can use source code or other types of packages to install on ubuntu
[06:15] <denhart> ok cables......
[06:15] <cables> Pelo, I know...
[06:16] <denhart> i've already done that and seemed to work with the exception of the 3ddesk
[06:16] <cables> Pelo, but he's a linux... ahem... noob, and I want to tell him how he should be doing things
[06:16] <orange1> whats the linux version of visio to design the look of a program?
[06:16] <cables> denhart, 3ddesk needs to be started in a weird way
[06:16] <denhart> oh???
[06:17] <cables> Pelo, if that's the case, we shouldn't be supporting him, but directing him to #mint or whatever it is
[06:17] <cables> denhart, in your Applications menu, do you see Add/Remove?
[06:17] <cables> denhart, if you don't, can you find System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager?
[06:18] <cables> Pelo, I was under the impression that Mint was Ubuntu + nonfree stuff
[06:18] <IndyGunFreak> Warbo: no, i think it uses the same Gnome that Ubuntu does, at least all the screenshots i've seen
[06:18] <denhart> i see the add/remove....which one is best?? synaptic or add/remove
[06:18] <Warbo> Nevermind, he has it
[06:18] <gregcha117> i accidentely messed up my install of vmware and i keep getting a dpkg error, i cant seem to install it or uninstall it
[06:18] <cables> denhart, add/remove is easier, synaptic is more advanced
[06:18] <cables> Pelo, damn, just noticed that
[06:18] <denhart> oh ok
[06:19] <Pelo> gregcha117,   try asking for help in #vmware
[06:19] <denhart> i'm in add/remove
[06:19] <cables> denhart, find what you want, check it off, hit apply.
[06:20] <cables> denhart, you may need to change what's in the Show box
[06:20] <Pelo> denhart,   double click on this link    #linuxmint.com @ irc.spotchat.org
[06:20] <Pelo> denhart,   double click on this link<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:20] <denhart> i've done that stuff....i was talking about programs that i've found on the web for downloading and installing
[06:20] <Pelo> damn
[06:21] <cables> denhart, do you see the link Pelo just put up?
[06:21] <Pelo> cables,  forget it , doesn't work
[06:21] <denhart> yes i guess i should go to that
[06:21] <denhart> pelos that link doesn't work??
[06:21] <Pelo> denhart,   join  the spotchat network and go to that  channel  #linuxmint.com
[06:21] <varka> it worx
[06:22] <denhart> ok thanks pelo
[06:22] <varka> Pelo, nice page for giving to newbs, thx ;)
[06:22] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: why is it when i post that link, i'm vilified?...lol
[06:22] <Pelo> varka,  the install anything page ?
[06:22] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak,  post better links
[06:23] <geekytrent> hrm, i can't get the list of the different channels cuz the server load is too heavy...what's the channel for fiesty fawn?
[06:23] <varka> Pelo: yeah
[06:23] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: i do.. i've just been told its not a safe FAQ
[06:23] <Assimilator> hey guys is there any support for beryl here ?
[06:23] <Pelo> varka,  it is very usefull
[06:23] <mikexstudios> is there a linux command that automatically escapes any special characters in the input? (ie. [command]  'Someone's file.txt' -> Someone\'s\ file.txt)
[06:23] <varka> Pelo: yeah, saves a lot of time supporting others
[06:23] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak,   freenode has very strict rules ,  howtos are usualy fine
[06:23] <IndyGunFreak> varka: i use it all the time, its pretty accurate
[06:23] <ardchoille> Assimilator: beryl support is in #ubuntu-effects
[06:24] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: well, i've been vilified many times for posting that link
[06:24] <cables> so a few weeks ago, democracyplayer got updated and now it won't start... here's the error: An unknown error has occurred while finishing starting up.
[06:24] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak,  tell them to pissoff
[06:24] <Assimilator> cheers
[06:24] <BlackLiger> holy..... I've never seen a channel with this many people before
[06:24] <IndyGunFreak> lol, sounds good.
[06:24] <IndyGunFreak> it was seveas though
[06:24] <varka> IndyGunFreak: sry, whats the meaning of vilified? i'm a dumb german *g
[06:24] <cables> Running democracyplayer from the terminal gives this error:
[06:24] <cables> /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/democracy/eventloop.py:17: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module fasttypes: This Python has API version 1013, module fasttypes has version 1012.
[06:24] <cables>   import database
[06:24] <cables> sorry
[06:24] <cables> about flooding
[06:24] <pchilds> Thanks again for the software equivelent link. That will prove very valuable. Like I have always said Ubuntu rocks and so does the community that supports it.
[06:24] <cables> didn't realize it was so long
[06:24] <geekytrent> well, maybe somebody can help...i've put in libdvdread3, but can't find the install-css.sh script anywhere in the directory under docs that it makes
[06:25] <Pelo> BlackLiger,  welcome to the big leagues
[06:25] <BlackLiger> heh.
[06:25] <IndyGunFreak> varka: ike a scoundrel, giving people bad info, unsafe links, etc.
[06:25] <BlackLiger> Waiting for mine to download...
[06:25] <IndyGunFreak> varka: i've been flamed so many times for posting that link, it makes my head hurt...lol
[06:25] <BlackLiger> Tried the Fiesty beta, couldn't find the install option <_< (bad design? bad disk?)
[06:25] <BlackLiger> so I'm goin back.
[06:25] <cables> BlackLiger, it's right on the desktop :)
[06:25] <Pelo> pchilds,  when looking for software it's also a good idea to try wikipedia, they often have links to comparison chart or similar apps at the bottom of the page
[06:25] <varka> IndyGunFreak: lol, and what did they say should be the alternative?
[06:26] <cables> BlackLiger, it's also in System>Administration>Install
[06:26] <geekytrent> i've even went and installed libdvdcss2 manually, but still can't get a dvd to play...do you also have to have the gstreamer-ugly plugin with it for mplayer?
[06:26] <euxneks> I'm having some permissions issues with NFS
[06:26] <geekytrent> or vlc
[06:26] <denhart> pelo that link didn't take me to a mint chat channel???
[06:26] <IndyGunFreak> varka: the official ubuntu Faq
[06:26] <nikitis> How do you switch to run level 3 after going to a terminal
[06:26] <IndyGunFreak> which is woefully inadequate if you ask me
[06:26] <BlackLiger> it is if you can make the disk bother to boot...
[06:26] <varka> IndyGunFreak: ...
[06:26] <BlackLiger> eh, I don't care, I'll wait for stable release.
[06:26] <cables> denhart, if you can't find what you want to install in Add/Remove, tell us what you're looking for here and we'll try to find ubuntu-compatible versions
[06:26] <just-testing> mike: which shell are you using?
[06:26] <Kazol> How do I uninstall a program after running: $sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella ?
 failed, reason given by server: Permission denied
[06:27] <euxneks> I'm pretty sure I set up the exports file properly
[06:27] <cables> Kazol, sudo aptitude remove gtk-gnutella
[06:27] <cables> Kazol, or apt-get
[06:27] <IndyGunFreak> "IndyGunfreak joins #ubuntu-handholding
[06:27] <Kazol> cables: thx
[06:27] <denhart> i want a really good audio player, a really good video player
[06:27] <jetscreamer> Kazol: apt-get remove --purge also
[06:27] <cables> denhart, vlc is nice
[06:27] <Pelo> denhart,    go to the xchat menu  > network list,  look for  irc.spotchat.org,  start a connection, then try joining that #linuxmint.com channel
[06:27] <nikitis> what's the command to switch to run level 3?
[06:27] <jetscreamer> mplayer is your god
[06:27] <jetscreamer> init3
[06:27] <IndyGunFreak> God?
[06:27] <jetscreamer> or init 3
[06:27] <nikitis> thanks
[06:27] <jetscreamer> ok $DIETY
[06:28] <denhart> i have that for xp and i like it...i was reading up on it for linux and i read it crashes alot....i downloaded it and couldn't install it
[06:28] <euxneks> hello?
[06:28] <cables> denhart, hold on
[06:28] <cables> denhart, it's in Add/Remove
[06:28] <Pelo> hello euxneks
[06:28] <euxneks> any NFS-knowledgeable people here?
[06:28] <denhart> ok cables
[06:28] <cables> denhart, if you can't find it here, can you do this for me: find a terminal (probably in Accessories) and put in this command: sudo aptitude install vlc
[06:28] <euxneks> I'm not too experienced with mounting over a network hub (well mounting over a network period)
[06:28] <varka> euxneks: ask ur question, then we'll see
[06:29] <BlackLiger> $deity ignores the possibility of atheists, jetscreamer
[06:29] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: says LinuxMint is temporarily unavailable
[06:29] <jetscreamer> euxneks: nfs is easiest to get going w/o the firewalls... then put up the firewalls...
[06:29] <denhart> vlc wasn't there...i'll try the terminal
[06:29] <jetscreamer> BlackLiger: they have dieties also even if they don't define them as dieties
[06:29] <cables> denhart, did you change it to "all available applications"?
[06:29] <BlackLiger> and damn you, you've got me thinking how to define an agnostic in a programming context...
[06:29] <denhart> yes i did cables
[06:29] <euxneks> ok.. I have exports set like so: /home/euxneks/Photos    <my_IP>(rw,sync,no_root_squash)
[06:30] <cables> denhart, okay, use the terminal
[06:30] <lucifiel> btw Pelo, thank you for giving me that link earlier on about Synaptic.
[06:30] <BlackLiger> yay only 43 mins left before my next download is done...
[06:30] <lucifiel> Hopefully, things will go well.
[06:30] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak,  the link on the page is rather crappy,  it wouldn,t surprise me if it was a fake and they expected us to do their supportfor them
[06:30] <euxneks> jetscreamer: is there firewalls in Ubuntu?
[06:30] <nikitis> init 3 isn't working
[06:30] <euxneks> on by default I mean?
[06:30] <cables> !firewall | euxneks
[06:30] <ubotu> euxneks: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:30] <denhart> oh ok i found it cables it was in add/remove....sorry
[06:30] <nikitis> i want to kill x server for compiling nvidia drivers
[06:30] <Pelo> Lucifel,  not just synaptic,   the rest of it is very usefull to
[06:30] <nikitis> how do I do this?
[06:30] <lucifiel> ooh thank you. :=)
[06:30] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: yeah, those Mint freaks...lol
[06:31] <just-testing> nikits - alt + backspace
[06:31] <Pelo> I don'T realy care for spinoff distros
[06:31] <jetscreamer> nikitis: /etc/init.d/gdm stop maybe
[06:31] <jetscreamer> not sure
[06:31] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: yeah, but its inevitable.
[06:31] <jetscreamer> Pelo: heh....
[06:31] <just-testing> nikits: you will loose any unsaved information if you use alt + backspace though.
[06:31] <Pelo> trying to make money fy selling support for something they didn't half build
[06:31] <jetscreamer> what distro are you using?
[06:31] <jetscreamer> LOL
[06:31] <IndyGunFreak> Redhat---Fedora       Mandriva=-[06:31] <IndyGunFreak> and manymore.
[06:31] <quaal> anyone know of a program to edit dvd's
[06:31] <denhart> what about a really good audio program for my music on my computer and streaming radio???
[06:32] <quaal> to remove videos
[06:32] <quaal> previews
[06:32] <cables> denhart, IndyGunFreak, Pelo, why don't we all go to #denhart to help him? Maybe it'll be easier.
[06:32] <quaal> certain features
[06:32] <quaal> etc
[06:32] <tonyyarusso> !players | denhart
[06:32] <ubotu> denhart: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:32] <cables> denhart, for streaming radio, install Streamtuner
[06:32] <IndyGunFreak> cables: let me go get some aspirin... i'll be there...
[06:32] <just-testing> cables: :-D
[06:32] <Chesney> Quick question whats the best way to find a devices PCI ID?
[06:32] <jetscreamer> quaal: avidemux is simple to figure out and works well
[06:32] <quaal> jetscreamer, cool thanks
[06:32] <jetscreamer> cat /proc/something Chesney
[06:32] <ant-> Chesney : lspci
[06:33] <varka> euxneks: in exports you have to specify the ip or the range of ips that should be able to mount your shared folder not your own ip
[06:33] <denhart> i have totem, vlc, mplayer, xmms......how do i get streamtuner???
[06:33] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, x is just an integral part of ubuntu regardless of desktop environment is it
[06:33] <Chesney> jetscreamer,  /proc/something    something being?
[06:33] <Pelo> Chesney,   system > admin > device manager
[06:33] <jetscreamer> something under /proc
[06:33] <ant-> Chesney : use lspci
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> !software | denhart
[06:33] <ubotu> denhart: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[06:33] <jetscreamer> quaal: when you want more out of 'it' try mencoder
[06:33] <xircx> wow that waz fun lol
[06:33] <xircx> worked out though
[06:33] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: Yes
[06:33] <ant-> Chesney : just type 'lspci'
[06:33] <IndyGunFreak> denhart: are you there?
[06:33] <jetscreamer> try lspci
[06:33] <jetscreamer> :o
[06:33] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, ok
[06:33] <Pelo> xircx,  what were yo doing again ?
[06:33] <denhart> ok thank you ubotu
[06:33] <cables> denhart, same way you just got vlc
[06:34] <denhart> yes still here Indy
[06:34] <jetscreamer> !botsnack
[06:34] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:34] <xircx> moving partitions
[06:34] <denhart> oh ok.........
[06:34] <IndyGunFreak> denhart.. type this line.. "/join #denhart".. no quotes
[06:34] <BlackLiger> I hate slow netspeeds.
[06:34] <cables> denhart, please do this: /join #denhart
[06:34] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: The desktop or window manager (whatever that may be, gnome, kde, window maker, fluxbox, etc) runs on top of X.
[06:34] <tabber> hi
[06:34] <euxneks> varka: I'm on the computer on which I want to mount nfs
[06:34] <tabber> i want to run two scripts when I start a session
[06:34] <BlackLiger> you guys tried inviting him via the /invite command?
[06:34] <Chesney> ant-,  Sorry, I just realized i'm not being clear enough. Its not actually a PCI device is the VGA slot on the motherboard. So when I did lspci about an hour ago I didn't get what I was going for.
[06:34] <euxneks> I've put this current computer's IP as the ip in the exports file
[06:34] <denhart> where do i type that in at Indy
[06:34] <tabber> i've tries this but it doesn't work: Exec=/usr/local/bin/startxgl.sh & /usr/local/bin/beryl.sh
[06:34] <IndyGunFreak> denhart: anywhere
[06:35] <tabber> in my .desktop file
[06:35] <IndyGunFreak> right where you type your input.
[06:35] <tabber> any clues?
[06:35] <euxneks> I did an iptables -L and it looks to me like I don't have any firewall rules..
[06:35] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, ok
[06:35] <Chesney> ant-, Its late....agp
[06:35] <cables> denhart, in your IRC client
[06:35] <geekytrent> so, any idea where the install-css.sh file is when it's suppose to be in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/   ?
[06:35] <cables> denhart, like where you're chatting
[06:35] <xircx> can i do a windows xp recovory or will it mess up my linux boot loader?
[06:35] <geekytrent> and it's not
[06:36] <euxneks> I have a hub so both my computers have an IP like 24.108.xx.xx
[06:36] <Chesney> xircx, It will, but there are ways to recover it.
[06:36] <euxneks> would that be a hurdle for NFS?
[06:36] <lucifiel> oh yes btw... whenever i try to install a program, okay, the installation is successful but I'll get some "locale not supported by Xlib" error. I've already  changed  my Language options but it still occurs. Any idea hwo to fix this?
[06:36] <tabber> it should be simple
[06:36] <tabber> :s
[06:36] <Chesney> !grub > xircx
[06:36] <ant-> Chesney : then goto device manager
[06:37] <euxneks> the exports file is on the server computer
[06:37] <euxneks> this is the client
[06:37] <euxneks> I have a feeling like I've misconfigured something on the server
[06:37] <Pelo> Lucifel,  you need the xlib restarted is my guess,
[06:37] <euxneks> for NFS
[06:37] <euxneks> wow this is a busy channel
[06:37] <Chesney> ant-, Yup, I just realized that. I'm still getting over there being a decent GUI system component on a Linux Disto.
[06:38] <lucifiel> restarted?! you mean... restart the pc?
[06:38] <ant-> Chesney :)
[06:38] <tabber> anyone?
[06:38] <varka> euxneks: after you edited the exports file, did you restart the nfs-kernel-server?
[06:38] <tabber> executing scripts but for specific sessions
[06:38] <euxneks> yes
[06:38] <tabber> not every session
[06:38] <Pelo> Lucifel,  it is a good idea to lookup error msg in the forum,  it's a gold mine of fixe and howto,  just restart X  ctrl  alt backspace
[06:38] <tabber> how do i do that?
[06:38] <euxneks> sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart
[06:38] <euxneks> and it seemed to restart fine
[06:38] <Chesney> xircx, If you have any more questions I will be here if you need help.
[06:38] <Pelo> tabber,  more info
[06:39] <Pelo> tabber,    menu > system > prefs > sessions ,  3rd tab ,  you can add paths to your scripts there
[06:39] <lucifiel> omg
[06:40] <tabber> Pelo, i have a different xgl session, and i need to execute two scripts when i log in to it. In the .desktop file there is an "Exec=" but i don't know how to tell it to execute two cripts
[06:40] <Pelo> Lucifel,  ?
[06:40] <lucifiel> i didn't know that pressing those keys would restart the o/s so quickly lol
[06:40] <euxneks> I also checked out google and I found a tut that told me to do an exportfs
[06:40] <varka> euxneks: and you edited the /etc/hosts too on both computers?
[06:40] <euxneks> which I did
[06:40] <tabber> Pelo, yeah but that does it for every session
[06:40] <euxneks> well I'm using IP addresses
[06:40] <Pelo> tabber,  I don't know then
[06:40] <Chesney> In all reality what are the minimum system req's for Beryl (I've already been on the wiki) but anyone using it on an older system?
[06:40] <euxneks> and there are no rules in hosts.allow or hosts.deny
[06:40] <lucifiel> thank you for all the help, Pelo. =)
[06:40] <Pelo> Lucifel,  not the whole os , just  the xwindows , ie your interface and loaded modules
[06:41] <Pelo> Lucifel,  you want one last great link ?   http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[06:41] <tabber> Pelo: Exec=/usr/local/bin/startxgl.sh , that works, but i also want to execute "/usr/local/bin/beryl.sh" that one. this is my .desktop file for my xgl session btw
[06:41] <lucifiel> aha... :)
[06:41] <lucifiel> wow okay thanks, man!
[06:41] <Pelo> you'Re welcome
[06:42] <euxneks> varka: I'm using IP addresses =\  nothing in hosts for either computer except locahost stuff
[06:42] <lucifiel> yeah... all this help is really good. =)
[06:42] <euxneks> I'm going to search online some more..
[06:42] <tabber> Pelo, no thanks anyways
[06:43] <Dublado> hello there
[06:43] <euxneks> hello
[06:43] <dauoalagio2> hello what's the command for the xserver configure tour thing
[06:43] <dauoalagio2> xorgconfig or something
[06:43] <varka> euxneks: well it should work as you configured it as far as i can see...
[06:43] <euxneks> yea I thought so too.. I'll see if I can find something I've missed
[06:44] <Kismet> if i have a working samba mount command can anyone help me figure out the fstab entry?
[06:44] <BlackLiger> godzilla size download... aaaaaaaahhhhhggghhhh
[06:44] <Dublado> hello there
[06:44] <cafuego_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:44] <BlackLiger> (yes, I'm still waiting, it's at 43% now...)
[06:44] <euxneks> varka: thanks for the help =)
[06:44] <lucifiel> okay well hopefully i'll get to be able to turn Ubuntu into something I can work with, in a few hours' time. =)
[06:44] <varka> euxneks: np
[06:44] <euxneks> I'll report back later if I get it working
[06:44] <Dublado> somebody can help me, i need to install curl in my ubuntu
[06:45] <cafuego_> Dublado: sudo apt-get install curl
[06:45] <Pelo> Dublado,  have you looked in synaptic ?
[06:45] <Dublado> hum, no! i dont know about this, im going to try this
[06:45] <varka> euxneks: maybe this helps http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/troubleshooting.html
[06:46] <xircx> dose sudo apt-get install work for every program out there or is there a list
[06:46] <euxneks> well now
[06:46] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, what is the difference between any 2 distros that use say gnome
[06:46] <marcin> xircx, depends if the program is in the ubuntu repository
[06:46] <euxneks> varka: "who" gives me something other than an IP
[06:46] <xircx> oh ok
[06:46] <euxneks> on the server
[06:47] <euxneks> wtf
[06:47] <marcin> xircx, i've had good luck with a lot of program's being apt-get install "able"
[06:47] <Pelo> g'night folks
[06:47] <euxneks> I'm going to try putting that value in there
[06:47] <xircx> i just tryed limewire
[06:47] <Dublado> algum brasileiro ?
[06:47] <xircx> and its kinda like a search
[06:47] <Pelo> xircx,  try frostwire instead
[06:47] <cafuego_> !pt
[06:47] <lHck> hi channel
[06:47] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:47] <xircx> frostwire
[06:47] <marcin> xircx, i dont think limewire is available for linux... i could be wrong though
[06:47] <xircx> hmm ok
[06:47] <xircx> ty
[06:47] <xircx> it is
[06:48] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, also are there other toolkits than gtk and qt
[06:48] <xircx> i just havent tryed it out
[06:48] <Dublado> hey pal, my apache return this error -> Fatal error: Call to undefined function curl_init()
[06:48] <xircx> i yahooed it last night lol
[06:48] <gregcha117> how do i get an invite to joost?
[06:48] <Dublado> somebody know, how can i activate my curl to use in my lamp ?
[06:48] <marcin> you can always do a `sudo apt-cache search <program_name>
[06:49] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: The differences in the distros is, afaik, packages, support, usability, stuff like that. and I know there is gtk, qt and wings, but there may be others.
[06:50] <adam511> does the Ubuntu Live CD 7.04 have GParted?
[06:50] <euxneks> hrm
[06:50] <xircx> is there a link to the list of apt-get installs
[06:50] <euxneks> varka: I put * in for host and it still says permission denied
[06:50] <Hmmmm> hey guys, i need some help with apache and tomcat. i want to enable authentication
[06:51] <xircx> the live cd should have gparted
[06:51] <xircx> i just used it a few min ago
[06:51] <matrix> hi i just tried using nvidia-settings to setup multi screen. i can activate my external screen but it doesn't offer its native resolution: 1440x900 how can i get this available
[06:51] <Kismet> why wont chmod work on a file on a samba mount?
[06:51] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, i suppose different distros would have different themes in their desktop environment also which would make them look different would they
[06:51] <adam511> ok, I will check again
[06:51] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: Yes, that is also true.
[06:51] <xircx> it should be under system >admin
[06:52] <xircx> gnome partition editer
[06:52] <rubbad> evening.
[06:52] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: But desktop themes, and other themes, are quite easy to change.
[06:52] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, oh yes i know
[06:52] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, its great
[06:53] <lHck> hi, i am using xfce
[06:53] <lHck> but didnt find xdmcp session on the login screen,
[06:54] <lHck> how can I add a XDMCP entry please ?
[06:54] <euxneks> oh wow
[06:54] <euxneks> I think I know the reason
[06:54] <euxneks> varka: I forgot a trailing slash
[06:54] <cupidtoo> I am trying to install the latest ATI driver so I can actually use my ATI Radeon 9550 card instead of my old Geforce card.  I click on the install and get this message:  Could not open the file /home/cupidtoo/Desktop/aler-8.35.5-x86.x86_64.run using the Unicode (UTF-8) character coding.  Any ideas?
[06:54] <euxneks> hahah wow
[06:54] <euxneks> that was ridiculous
[06:55] <varka> euxneks: sometimes the solution is just pretty easy
[06:55] <xircx> are there eny good yahoo chat clients for linux that work?
[06:55] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, that means though that all distros surface are pretty much the same
[06:55] <euxneks> wow
[06:55] <rubbad> i just installed the nvidia drivers for my 6800GT, and the resolution doesnt go to the highest and its slightly off center to the left, anyone know how to help?
[06:55] <xircx> i found one but its a lil tuchy
[06:55] <euxneks> I thought there was something wrong with my computers or something
[06:55] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, there internal workings would be where they differ majorly i suppose
[06:56] <euxneks> turns out it was just a faulty chair to keyboard connection
[06:56] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: Wel, yeah, wm's and de's.
[06:56] <kingcobra_> *their
[06:56] <lHck> please anyone help, i have tried GOOGLE for 2 days, every peice of info is talking about start the XDMCP services,
[06:56] <just-testing> xircx: try yahoo messenger
[06:56] <lHck> but didnt mention how to launch a XDMCP client on XFCE
[06:56] <xircx> i did
[06:56] <misfit_toy> in the system/settings/current session...what does the "order" field mean? is that literally the order in which they will be loaded on startup?
[06:56] <varka> rubbad: have a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf and put in the right values for your monitor
[06:56] <xircx> but it wont let me pick the room i wanna join
[06:57] <rubbad> thanks.
[06:57] <xircx> my states not in the yahoo chat room list
[06:57] <xircx> so it wont let me join it
[06:57] <just-testing> xirc: sorry, can't help you there
[06:57] <Phildo> A brand spanking new install of 6.10 locks up at splash screen in normal mode - single user modes' last line is "[17179589.888000]  BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!"
[06:57] <xircx> lol its cook
[06:57] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, but like the part you see and use on two gnome distros are basically the exact same with same theme on both
[06:57] <xircx> i used yahelite
[06:57] <Phildo> core2duo toshiba tecra A6
[06:57] <Phildo> any ideas people?
[06:58] <xircx> that works ok but it dont like to connect
[06:58] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: Yeah, it's all gnome.
[06:58] <euxneks> this is awesome
[06:58] <xircx> frostwires not loading
[06:58] <xircx> ;\
[06:58] <euxneks> network monitor is solid! woohoo
[06:58] <euxneks> nfs
[06:59] <cupidtoo> Please, someone help me with my ati driver issue...
[06:59] <adam511> Does anyone here have any experience dual booting WinXP and Ubuntu?
[06:59] <xircx> i do
[06:59] <adam511> I installed Ubuntu on a WinXP system and now nothing boots
[06:59] <xircx> i have dual boot xp and ubuntu
[06:59] <AdamKili> me to
[06:59] <xircx> o.O
[06:59] <adam511> But I can live CD and I see all my old drives
[06:59] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: I used Fedora before switching to Ubuntu and feodra uses gnome. The thing that kept me on Ubuntu is apt, much faster and better than yum on Fedora. But, it was still gnome on the surface.
[06:59] <lewis> hi
[06:59] <adam511> 2 new drives for Ubuntu and my WinXP partition
[06:59] <adam511> *sorry, meant partitions, not drives
[07:00] <lewis> how do I run flash plugins with konqueror
[07:00] <xircx> when you boot dose it load grub?
[07:00] <adam511> I have 2 HDs, one is a backup drive and the ohter is my main HD, 160 GB Serial ATA
[07:00] <adam511> I get error that says no operating system detected
[07:00] <euxneks> lewis: I think konqueror actually uses the same plugin directory as mozilla based programs
[07:00] <adam511> I read up and found that this might be an LBA error
[07:00] <euxneks> lewis: I'm not sure though
[07:00] <xircx> you have to change your partitions
[07:00] <adam511> but I changed HD detect in bios
[07:00] <adam511> no good
[07:00] <adam511> humm
[07:00] <xircx> how meny partitions do you have?
[07:01] <adam511> How do I do that?
[07:01] <adam511> I think I have 3
[07:01] <lewis> euxneks,  and how do I do that with mozilla
[07:01] <adam511> swap, Ubun, XP
[07:01] <adam511> let me check
[07:01] <xircx> ok
[07:01] <adam511> I have live CD up
[07:01] <euxneks> lewis: have you downloaded their installer?
[07:01] <lewis> euxneks, the plugins?
[07:01] <rubbad> varka - doesnt want to work.
[07:01] <euxneks> for flash
[07:01] <Cheyenne> How do I have a FTP Server Run in Edgy?
[07:01] <xircx> is the ubuntu extended?
[07:01] <xircx> is the ubuntu partition extended?
[07:02] <varka> rubbad: what doesnt want to work?
[07:02] <euxneks> lewis: just a second, gettin you the link
[07:02] <rubbad> you told me to edit the xorg.config
[07:02] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, was yum the bash command in fedora
[07:02] <rubbad> .conf*
[07:02] <adam511> I have 4 partitions
[07:02] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: yes
[07:02] <adam511> one NTFS partition for backup on my backup HD
[07:02] <xircx> ok
[07:02] <adam511> one partition is NTFS for XP
[07:02] <varka> rubbad: yes, and what was your problem?
[07:02] <lewis> euxneks, actually I can wath videos on youtube
[07:03] <Cheyenne> How do I have a FTP Server Run in Edgy?
[07:03] <adam511> I think the others are ext3
[07:03] <adam511> how do I double heck?
[07:03] <adam511> *check
[07:03] <lewis> euxneks,  does it mean it works?
[07:03] <rubbad> i just installed the nvidia drivers, and my screen doesnt go it's highest res, and is slightly off center.
[07:03] <chipbuddy> does anyone know why the --geometry option for gnome-terminal isn't wokring? it always just puts the window in the center of the screen
[07:03] <varka> lewis: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and then search for plugins in konqueror options
[07:03] <adam511> properities, ok
[07:04] <euxneks> lewis: yeah
[07:04] <varka> rubbad: u told that already, what was your problem editing the xorg.conf then?
[07:04] <euxneks> lewis: if you have videos on youtube then the flash plugin is working
[07:04] <xircx> on your ntfs
[07:04] <xircx> is the flag set to boot?
[07:04] <ardchoille> chipbuddy: It should work with: gnome-terminal --geometry blahxblah
[07:04] <adam511> ok
[07:04] <adam511> how do I check?
[07:04] <lewis> euxneks, thanks
[07:04] <adam511> I was trying to check this through GParted
[07:04] <adam511> can't findit
[07:04] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, so the internal commands and processes do differ quite a lot from distro to distro do they
[07:04] <euxneks> lewis: heh I didn't do much though =D
[07:04] <xircx> system
[07:05] <pbcustom98> stupid question; what is the difference between konsole and terminal?
[07:05] <who8877> anyone know how to get Ubuntu precache certain files?
[07:05] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: Yes, very much so.
[07:05] <xircx> admin gnome partition editer
[07:05] <xircx> system >admin >gnome partition editer
[07:05] <lewis> euxneks, hehe
[07:05] <adam511> ok
[07:05] <Phildo> For the record guys, fixed it - "[17179589.888000]  BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!" was caused by the wireless killswitch being off at boot.
[07:05] <xircx> load it and see if the flag on your ntfs is set to boot
[07:05] <adam511> I don't see genome partition editor *I am using Ubuntu 7.04*
[07:06] <rubbad> varka: it doesnt work.
[07:06] <lHck> hi, i am using xfce, how can I launch a XDMCP client from it please ? google told me enough how to make this host as a server, but nothing about how to set it up as a XDMCP client
[07:06] <xircx> lol
[07:06] <xircx> open terminal
[07:06] <chipbuddy> ardchoille, i've been trying that and it doesn't... i'm running beryl if that helps at all
[07:06] <joincamp> pbcustom98: konsole is the kde version of a terminal
[07:06] <xircx> in terminal type sudo -i
[07:06] <xircx> enter password for root
[07:06] <ardchoille> adam511: Did you install gparted?
[07:06] <joincamp> pbcustom98: gnome-terminal is the gnome version
[07:06] <adam511> on, no gparted installed
[07:06] <lHck> I can easily find from login screen on a gnome default installed ubuntu, but how to do it on xfce ?
[07:06] <ardchoille> chipbuddy: beryl may be the reason it isn't working
[07:06] <xircx> o.O
[07:07] <pbcustom98> so it is the same thing as regular terminal-- gotcha
[07:07] <adam511> stupid question, what is my root passwd?
[07:07] <lHck> I can easily find XDMCP entry from login screen on a gnome default installed ubuntu, but how to do it on xfce ?
[07:07] <varka> rubbad: omg, if you continue saying that it just dont work ill quit talking to you
[07:07] <ardchoille> adam511: To install gparted: sudo apt-get install gparted
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> adam511: #ubuntu+1 for unstable versions
[07:07] <rubbad> .....
[07:07] <euxneks> adam511: you have to use sudo
[07:07] <xircx> you should have set it when you installed
[07:07] <adam511> ok, let me try something
[07:07] <euxneks> adam511: ubuntu doesn't do the root thing by default
[07:07] <adam511> oh, this is the live CD
[07:08] <xircx> ;\
[07:08] <adam511> it's not my installed instance
[07:08] <euxneks> adam511: you should be in the admin users group anyway =)
[07:08] <adam511> I installed Ubuntu and now nothing boots
[07:08] <xircx> then gpart should be on it
[07:08] <ardchoille> adam511: Sorry about that, I didn't realise you were on the livecd
[07:09] <adam511> no problem, I know my data is on the HD because I can see it
[07:09] <adam511> I can see the three partitions from the live CD
[07:09] <gregcha117> how do i get invited to joost?
[07:09] <xircx> if your on the live cd then you should be able to load gparted from system>adminastration>gnome partition editer
[07:09] <Cheyenne> How do I have a FTP Server Run in Edgy?
[07:09] <xircx> systems at the top
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> !ftp | Cheyenne
[07:09] <ubotu> Cheyenne: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[07:09] <swimbuddy> !digspy
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about digspy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> !ftpd | Cheyenne rather
[07:09] <ubotu> Cheyenne rather: FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[07:10] <swimbuddy> !diggspy
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about diggspy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <adam511> yeah, I am looking at System -> Administration
[07:10] <adam511> GParted or Genome parition edit is not present
[07:10] <who8877> do you know if linux has heuristic file precaching?
[07:10] <xircx> hmm
[07:10] <eilker> good morning people, i wanna delete one user (profile) from my pc, is "sudo deluser username"  ok ?
[07:10] <adam511> I think this was because I decided to install a beta version :-(
[07:10] <ardchoille> adam511: Open a terminal and type: which gparted
[07:10] <xircx> probly
[07:10] <adam511> I did that and it just returned
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> eilker: Yeah.  I don't think that deletes the contents of their /home though, fyi.
[07:10] <adam511> printed nothing
[07:11] <xircx> i dont know if you can install things by using the live cd
[07:11] <ardchoille> gparted isn't on the Feisty livecd???
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> xircx: You can, if you have ample RAM>
[07:11] <adam511> I cannot find it
[07:11] <xircx> k
[07:11] <xircx> adam
[07:11] <xircx> open the terminal
[07:11] <eilker> tonyyarusso: is there any other command to delete /home too
[07:11] <xircx> type "sudo -i"
[07:11] <adam511> ok
[07:11] <RyanRyan52> I installed BIND9, how do i start/stop/restart it?
[07:12] <xircx> then enter your password
[07:12] <adam511> it's live CD, it just gave me another line
[07:12] <lHck> need help on XDMCP, how can I add a entry on the XFCE login window, to allow me launch an XDMCP client to connect to remote Xserver please ?
[07:12] <simonxx> tonyyarusso: what's the difference if I just edit /etc/password?
[07:12] <adam511> no prompt for passwd
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> eilker: cd /home/usertodelete && sudo rm -rf ./ ?  CAREFUL <-- obligatory warning
[07:12] <xircx> ok
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> simonxx: not sure
[07:12] <xircx> thats right
[07:12] <xircx> lol
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> simonxx: we never recommend touching /etc/passwd by hand
[07:12] <mzuverink> Is there a way to make ctrl_alt_del not restart the conputer in tty  without editing inittab?
[07:12] <xircx> type "sudo apt-get install gparted
[07:12] <xircx> type "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[07:12] <adam511> ok
[07:12] <xircx> i think thats right
[07:12] <simonxx> ok
[07:13] <eilker> tonyyarusso: thanx
[07:13] <xircx> then install it
[07:13] <ardchoille> xircx: If he is in a root shell, he won't need sudo
[07:13] <adam511> ok, it's going
[07:13] <xircx> k
[07:13] <xircx> well thats how i do it lol
[07:13] <swimbuddy> !spydig
[07:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spydig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:13] <RyanRyan52> I installed BIND9, how do i start/stop/restart it?
[07:13] <swimbuddy> how do I find my fastest mirror for apt/synaptic? i think its called digspy or somthing
[07:13] <xircx> ardchoille says you dont need to use sudo in root
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> RyanRyan52: sudo invoke-rc.d bind restart, or something similar most likely
[07:14] <RyanRyan52> thanks
[07:14] <who8877> Ryan: /etc/init.d/mysql start
[07:14] <adam511> ok, sudo means change user right?
[07:14] <cables> adam511, nope
[07:14] <adam511> ok, I think it's done
[07:14] <who8877> no sudo = super user do
[07:14] <ardchoille> sudo means superuser do
[07:14] <xircx> eny way when its installed look in system>admin> GNOME partition editer
[07:14] <cables> adam511, just runs things as root user
[07:14] <adam511> ok
[07:14] <adam511> makes sense
[07:14] <cables> xircx, you'll have to use the LiveCD i think
[07:14] <xircx> ?
[07:15] <adam511> ok, I got Genome Partition manager
[07:15] <xircx> load it
[07:15] <adam511> scanning all drives
[07:15] <xircx> kk
[07:15] <xircx> the top partition should be your ntfs right
[07:16] <adam511> so sda is my backup drive
[07:16] <adam511> sdb is my main drive
[07:16] <adam511> sda1 has boot flag
[07:16] <xircx> o.O
[07:16] <adam511> sdb2 has boot flag
[07:17] <xircx> witch partition has your ntfs
[07:17] <adam511> sda is backup so that should not matter
[07:17] <adam511> and I think it is correct because it has a valid WinXp install on it
[07:17] <adam511> I can select in bios to boot off that HD and it will boot
[07:17] <adam511> that should be fine
[07:17] <adam511> sdb1 is ntfs (WinXP)
[07:17] <xircx> is that flaged as boot?
[07:17] <adam511> sdb2 is ext3 /media/disk
[07:18] <adam511> sdb3 is extended
[07:18] <adam511> sdb5 is linux-swap
[07:18] <adam511> sdb1 is not flagged as boot
[07:18] <adam511> only sdb2 is flagged as boot
[07:18] <euxneks> anyone here know about f-spot?
[07:18] <aj_> I am a new user help
[07:18] <xircx> i think your partitions are messed up
[07:18] <euxneks> specifically, why are there copies of images with -1 in them? I.e. if I have an image named dcp1023.jpg there is another image named dcp1023-1.jpg
[07:19] <adam511> that's possible
[07:19] <euxneks> aj_: what do you need help with?
[07:19] <xircx> you installed ubuntu on ext3
[07:19] <adam511> although I can view the files on them
[07:19] <PresuntoRJ> euxneks: what about f-spot?
[07:19] <aj_> everthing
[07:19] <euxneks> PresuntoRJ: specifically, why are there copies of images with -1 in them? I.e. if I have an image named dcp1023.jpg there is another image named dcp1023-1.jpg
[07:19] <adam511> all I did was click on the install button on the linux live CD desktop
[07:19] <adam511> it installed
[07:19] <aj_> is there a basic help site for first time linux users
[07:19] <euxneks> they look and seem to be the same
[07:19] <lHck> need help on XDMCP, how can I add a entry on the XFCE login window, to allow me launch an XDMCP client to connect to remote Xserver please ?
[07:20] <ardchoille> euxneks: Did you download those with wget?
[07:20] <euxneks> aj_: check out help.ubuntu.com
[07:20] <xircx> dint it ask what partition to install it to
[07:20] <adam511> I do not remember
[07:20] <euxneks> ardchoille: ? my images? I just put them on there from my camera....
[07:20] <aj_> cool
[07:20] <PresuntoRJ> euxneks: I gave up uderstanding this, but I figured out why it happens
[07:20] <xircx> o.O
[07:20] <adam511> I remember it asking to create new partitions
[07:20] <lucifiel> oh no, guys, what is "root" in ubuntu? is it what you call "Administrator" in windows?
[07:20] <euxneks> lucifiel: yes
[07:21] <adam511> what's wrong with my partitions?
[07:21] <aj_> I am just so fed up with ms I have had this cd for a year and just decided to use it it loaded great but it is all new
[07:21] <euxneks> lucifiel: however, ubuntu is slightly different in that to do an administrator like thing you type sudo at command line
[07:21] <swimbuddy> whats the command to search for fastest possible mirrors?
[07:21] <euxneks> ie. sudo cp blah blah_bak
[07:21] <xircx> sdb2 is ext3 /media/disk should be in the extended partitions
[07:21] <ardchoille> euxneks: It sounds like your camera numbers them blah.jpg, blah-1.jpg, blah-2.jpg, etc
[07:21] <lucifiel> ohhh... thank you, euxneks!!! :)
[07:22] <xircx> with the linux swap
[07:22] <euxneks> lucifiel: no problems =)
[07:22] <PresuntoRJ> euxneks: f-spot may be set to copy every picture file to a ~/.Photos
[07:22] <euxneks> PresuntoRJ: that sounds like that's it
[07:22] <b0xy> is there a good DVD Ripping app out there on ubuntu?
[07:22] <b0xy> rip from DVD to ISO file or something similar, but extracting only the movie
[07:22] <euxneks> PresuntoRJ: will it also make a backup of the original or something?
[07:22] <varka> b0xy: k9copy
[07:22] <ardchoille> b0xy: gnomebaker, graveman, k3b
[07:22] <PresuntoRJ> Later, when you run it again, it will try to create these copyed verion again
[07:22] <adam511> so I am not supposed to have a ext3 partition?
[07:23] <b0xy> thanks guys
[07:23] <euxneks> ardchoille: my camera names them sequentially like so DCP1023.jpg DCP1024.jpg etc etc
[07:23] <ardchoille> b0xy: Oh, sorry, dvd ripper.. k9copy, dvd:rip, xdvdshrink
[07:23] <xircx> yes but it should be under the extention
[07:23] <b0xy> varka: is k9copy only for KDE?
[07:23] <varka> b0xy: no
[07:23] <euxneks> b0xy: you can run it on gnome
[07:23] <ardchoille> b0xy: You can run kde apps in gnome and vice-versa with no problems.
[07:23] <b0xy> I'm used to DVD Shrink on WinXP so I'm looking for similar functionality
[07:23] <PresuntoRJ> euxneks: since it finds the files already there (with the original name) it shows a newer verion of the file as a -1
[07:23] <b0xy> sweet. I'll give it a try
[07:24] <xircx> adam do you have msn messenger?
[07:24] <lucifiel> darnit... ntfs-3g, you will NOT get the better of me. I shall conquer you and mount my Windows volumes...grrr.
[07:24] <ardchoille> b0xy: http://dvdshrink.sourceforge.net  <- xdvdshrink, I use it and it's great.
[07:24] <adam511> I have GAIM
[07:24] <adam511> let me see
[07:24] <xircx> with a msn count
[07:24] <adam511> not sure if I have an account
[07:24] <PresuntoRJ> euxneks: It happened on my system using Edgy only if f-spot crashed at least once and had to recrate its index of pictures
[07:24] <euxneks> PresuntoRJ: so that's from me importing the file twice then
[07:24] <xircx> msn or yahoo
[07:24] <adam511> do you have AIM?
[07:24] <catxk> I'm getting an XFree86-DRI missing on display :1.0 error and found out that reinstalling fglrx might solve it... would just apt-get remove fglrx followed by install do it or is there some more extensive process of reinstalling this driver?
[07:24] <xircx> nope
[07:24] <xircx> lol
[07:25] <adam511> :-)
[07:25] <xircx> do your have a yahoo acount?
[07:25] <xircx> you*
[07:25] <adam511> let me see if I can create a yahoo account fast
[07:25] <xircx> k
[07:25] <PresuntoRJ> euxneks: I think so... I gave up using f-spot since... I may try again under Feisty (the new Ubuntu version)
[07:25] <adam511> I have an acct
[07:25] <adam511> have not used it in a while
[07:25] <adam511> might not rem passwd
[07:25] <lucifiel> omg... oh wait, so... I need to login as root, huh
[07:26] <xircx> test your acount see if it works
[07:26] <ardchoille> lucifiel: Use sudo
[07:26] <adam511> checking it
[07:26] <euxneks> PresuntoRJ: what do you use for an image "maintaining" system...?
[07:26] <PresuntoRJ> euxneks: for now, I have been satisfied with gThumb (not the same resources, I know)
[07:26] <ardchoille> euxneks: gqview
[07:26] <euxneks> PresuntoRJ: hrm.. ok cool thanks for the information =)
[07:26] <lucifiel> ahhh instead of root, use sudo. However, how do I mount a windows volume? I've the command "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows" but how do I navigate to the Windows volumes?
[07:27] <euxneks> lucifiel: that last part: /mnt/windows
[07:27] <ardchoille> Once it's mounted, cd /mnt/windows/blah
[07:27] <euxneks> lucifiel: that's the directory where you need to go
[07:27] <PresuntoRJ> euxneks: It does import from my canon digital cam easy and it creates a single folder where ever you would like to save those....
[07:27] <euxneks> gthumb?
[07:28] <quaal> jetscreamer, that program isnt what i was looking for
[07:28] <kingcobra_> does anybody know what the icons in xchat represent like voice half op op
[07:28] <kingcobra_> which is which
[07:28] <PresuntoRJ> euxneks: It can tag categories and create simple slide shows
[07:28] <CheyenneD> Is there a way that i can have a ftp server in 6.10??
[07:28] <xircx> so you can mount the windows partition and get into its files from ubuntu?
[07:28] <quaal> i'm looking for something similar to dvdshrink that allows me to author a dvd. remove subtitles, certain features, trailers, etc. from a dvd (.vob files) anyone know of something that will allow this?
[07:28] <dj-fu> It depends on the ircD kingcobra_
[07:29] <kingcobra_> cant find it in help
[07:29] <lucifiel> great good gods... -__-;; but when i typed "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows", I get "Failed to access '/dev/hda1': No such file or directory"
[07:29] <PresuntoRJ> euxneks: I am sure you can find it at Add/Remove if not already installed
[07:29] <kingcobra_> dj-fu, but the icons that show up in my right pane beside usernames
[07:29] <b0xy> ardchoille: sorry, I'm extremely new to linux. how do I install xdvdshrink?
[07:29] <Flannel> kingcobra_: v is + half is % op is @
[07:29] <euxneks> PresuntoRJ: yeah I have it installed, but I liked the simplicity of f-spot better, it reminded me of iPhoto
[07:29] <adam511> ok, let me catchup
[07:29] <CheyenneD> Is there a way that i can have a ftp server in 6.10??
[07:29] <adam511> just created yahoo acct
[07:30] <euxneks> PresuntoRJ: not that I'm not down with gThumb =P
[07:30] <xircx> login to gaim with itk
[07:30] <adam511> yes, I can
[07:30] <xircx> then add<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:30] <adam511> what is itk?
[07:30] <Flannel> CheyenneD: CheyenneD https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[07:30] <kingcobra_> Flannel,  they are coloured circles
[07:30] <xircx> it k
[07:30] <xircx> lol
[07:30] <ardchoille> b0xy: It has an installer that you run. It will check for deps, if you have them it will install. If you don't, it will report what you need to install and then re-run it. It's self-explnanatory and easy.
[07:30] <PresuntoRJ> euxneks: I am not saying f-spot is no good... but it has some odd behaviour some times (like this duplication of the pictures)
[07:30] <xircx> waz spose to have space
[07:30] <lucifiel> uhhh so let me guess, i'm way off, huh...
[07:31] <dj-fu> kingcobra_: Icons? that's strange. It should just be '+', '%', '@', '&'
[07:31] <dj-fu> Icons would usually imply gnome-xchat, instead of just xchat.
[07:31] <dj-fu> It's all pretty and gay with icons and whatnot, iirc.
[07:31] <swimbuddy> !apt-spy
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-spy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <PresuntoRJ> euxnekes: there is always Picasa... if I am not mistaken you can find a fully packed Wine version (not sure if from Google or Automatix2)
[07:31] <euxneks> PresuntoRJ: cool thanks
[07:31] <Flannel> kingcobra_: oh.  Very well then.  purple is owner, green, teal, yellow, is op half voice
[07:31] <euxneks> gah
[07:31] <euxneks> no picas
[07:32] <dj-fu> I thout picasa ran natively on Linux now?
[07:32] <PresuntoRJ> euxnekes: good luke :D
[07:32] <euxneks> PresuntoRJ: thanks
[07:32] <dj-fu> http://picasa.google.com/linux/
[07:32] <dj-fu> yes, it uses Qt
[07:32] <euxneks> dj-fu: I thought it used wine?
[07:33] <PresuntoRJ> dj-fu: cool... I will check it later (not my priority for a while)
[07:33] <kingcobra_> Flannel, sorry for annoyin ya
[07:33] <Flannel> kingcobra_: no problem.  Just required another googling ;)
[07:33] <kingcobra_> Flannel, i did try
[07:34] <kingcobra_> Flannel, i was searching for xchat icons
[07:34] <Flannel> kingcobra_: I got it with 'xchat color op halfop voice', for future reference
[07:34] <jim_W> Hey can anyone help me find out what im doing wrong with nvidia 3d enable comand
[07:34] <Brylie> is anybody here familiar with Subversion?  can I upload files to my SVN repo via FTP?
[07:35] <b0xy> ardchoille: I'm not seeing which file I need to download. the .gz or the .rpm?
[07:35] <exile> sysinfo
[07:35] <Flannel> Brylie: no.  commit them via svn
[07:36] <jim_W> i get an error message and X won't run
[07:36] <PresuntoRJ> dj-fu: sorry man, it says on their FAQ it uses wine... :"Since Wine is using the gphoto library, all the cameras..."
[07:36] <exile> sysinfo exile
[07:36] <ardchoille> b0xy: It's bad to use .rpm's in Ubuntu, download the dvdshrink-2.6.1-8mdk.tar.gz file
[07:36] <Brylie> ok... i'll have to learn how to do that
[07:36] <Zyn> How do i get 6.10 to recognize that my mouse has five buttons?
[07:36] <Flannel> Brylie:  http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.2/index.html  has a quickstart section and lots of examples
[07:37] <Brylie> ok thank you
[07:37] <Brylie> Flannel:
[07:37] <dj-fu> Zyn: use the evdev driver and configure it correctly for X
[07:37] <Brylie> Flannel: thanks
[07:37] <graigsmith> hello.
[07:38] <Zyn> dj-fu:  Assume that i fell off the truck yesterday.  I'm competent in windows, but not so much in linux
[07:38] <b0xy> ardchoille: and after it opens what? I see a single file in that archive, but when I try to open it doesn't know what app to open with
[07:38] <exile> help
[07:38] <exile> grrrrrrrrrrr
[07:38] <graigsmith> what do you need help with exile?
[07:38] <dj-fu> Zyn: then don't bother, use 5 buttons and become competent
[07:39] <exile> trying to make sure these plugins are working
[07:39] <graigsmith> what plugins?
[07:39] <ardchoille> b0xy: Here are the steps from my master script: unpack it with: tar xzf dvdshrink-2.6.1-8mdk.tar.gz  then go into the folder with: cd dvdshrink  then run the installer with: sudo sh install.sh
[07:39] <exile> sysinfo
[07:39] <Grindar> hey guys, should I get the intel pentium d 940 or the core 2 duo 6300?
[07:39] <kingcobra_> Flannel, ive tried first 4 links fom that result cant see it
[07:39] <euxneks> I love my core2 duo
[07:39] <graigsmith> ahh, i dunno about sysinfo.
[07:39] <exile> sysinfo exile
[07:39] <sanzky> hi, does anyone knows if there are any XML database server in the ubuntu repositories?
[07:39] <euxneks> with sata 3Gbp
[07:39] <euxneks> very nice
[07:40] <Zyn> Dj-fu: I can't use 2 of the five buttons, so that seems like less than useful advice.  As for becoming competent, well, how am i to do so without asking for help?
[07:40] <Frogzoo> euxneks: how's battery life?
[07:40] <starseed> Anyone use songbird? trying to get flash working in the browser
[07:40] <dj-fu> google for help? :]
[07:40] <Grindar> the 940 has more cache and a higher clock speed, but the duos got a higher front speed bus.
[07:40] <euxneks> Frogzoo: I have a desktop
[07:40] <ardchoille> b0xy: You will most likely have to install: sudo apt-get install transcode mjpegtools subtitleripper gocr
[07:40] <euxneks> Frogzoo: sorry I thought you were talking about a desktop =P
[07:41] <Frogzoo> euxneks: kk, thx
[07:41] <dj-fu> one of the first hits on google: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219894
[07:41] <euxneks> or, hey. I was talking to Grindar! haha
[07:41] <lucifiel> okay i've been trying for the past few minutes or so but it's kinda obvious my commands are wrong. I've been trying to mount a partition . Device: "/dev/hdc1"  in "/media/hdc1" . Does the command " sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hdc1 /mnt/media/hdc1" not work?
[07:41] <euxneks> Frogzoo:  you got me confused for a bit ther
[07:42] <mjbrooks> ant-, you still awake?  ;)
[07:42] <Grindar> anybody else got input on the processor?
[07:42] <mzuverink> what are all the files both hidden and such in my user dir that I need to delete to start over from scratch?
[07:43] <PresuntoRJ> Grindar: is Pentium D still cheaper?
[07:43] <Grindar> on tiger direct anyway, but I'm watching an auction right now for the 6300
[07:44] <euxneks> I have a 6400 in my computer right now.
[07:44] <Grindar> if it stays in this range, I can afford it :)
[07:44] <Grindar> that's why I'm asking
[07:44] <Frogzoo> sanzky: libxflaim3.2 ?
[07:44] <PresuntoRJ> Grindar: I'd rather multicore with Xeon.... :-D but I have had a hude success with Core 2 Dou Extrem... how deep is your pocket?
[07:44] <Grindar> not very
[07:44] <Grindar> engineering student
[07:45] <Zyn> dj-fu: thanks.  Its not a logitech mouse, will that matter?
[07:45] <cafuego_> Grindar: Core2 is a much betetr choice than a 9xx
[07:45] <lucifiel> uh oh noooo... ><;; my partition has disappeared. :(
[07:45] <PresuntoRJ> Grindar: Been there... done that...
[07:45] <cafuego_> That said, I'm going X2 :-)
[07:45] <Grindar> I was asking 'cause it's a low end core 2 vs a high end PD
[07:46] <lewix> how can I see my system hardwares
[07:46] <eilker> i wanna calculate my site bandwidth for a month, but i dont know how to do it ? for example , when i visit www.yahoo.com only first time (only its index , not surfing in it) , how can i know that how much kb that i downloaded ?
[07:46] <PresuntoRJ> Grindar: what do you intend to do with the machine? firefox and openoffice? c++ and python? CAD? games?
[07:46] <Grindar> games
[07:46] <dj-fu> Zyn: not at all
[07:46] <dj-fu> well, apart fromt he udev section
[07:46] <Grindar> mostly, some programming
[07:46] <PresuntoRJ> Grindar: really, they do not differ that much
[07:46] <dj-fu> The point is that evdev can handle event driven mice
[07:46] <Grindar> probably vista as well, free from msdna
[07:47] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, can any window manager be used with either gnome or kde or others
[07:47] <lewix> like, if I want to know what type of graphic card I have
[07:47] <PresuntoRJ> Grindar: but the faster FBS is important to prevent cache overhead and it does magic with the propper Video Board (PCIe, please)
[07:47] <lewix> what's the command again?
[07:47] <swimbuddy> Grindar: get a cheap laptop, you know you want it
[07:47] <HipotermiA> quien a podido instalar drivers propietario en feisty ?
[07:48] <HipotermiA> de nvidia ?
[07:48] <cafuego_> you'd be hard pressed finding AGP core2 supporting mobos
[07:48] <Steil> lewix: lspci?
[07:48] <cafuego_> !es
[07:48] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:48] <lewix> thanks Steil
[07:48] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: I had a hard time getting fluxbox running in gnome, but openbox was very easy to run in gnome. I think the choice of wm in gnome is dependent on whether or not that wm is HIG compliant. I don't know about kde because I haven't used it in years.
[07:48] <PresuntoRJ> Grindar: but still, my machine at home is still a Compaq Armada PIII 700 Laptop and it handles fine most of my needs
[07:49] <PresuntoRJ> Grindar: I dont really care for games
[07:49] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, what is hig
[07:49] <Grindar> on a cheap laptop
[07:49] <lewix> Steil, what's the command if I want to see what type of hard drive I have
[07:49] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: You can run window managers by themselves. I am running window maker by itself (without gnome) and it works great. Fluxbox and openbox work great on their own too.
[07:49] <Grindar> a dell 600m to be precise
[07:49] <RushFreak> I just put feisty on a 4 year old dell laptop.  Put some new life into this machine.  Windows was really dragging it down.
[07:49] <Grindar> I can't even play oblivion :(
[07:49] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: Human Interface Guide or some such.
[07:49] <PresuntoRJ> Grindar: My brither, on the other hand, loves them... he runs a Duo 2 Core Extreme 768MB Nvidia etc...
[07:50] <Steil> lewix: sorry, no idea
[07:50] <PresuntoRJ> brother
[07:50] <ardchoille> !hig
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, do you hav taskbars
[07:50] <Grindar> gotta go. Work just called me in.
[07:51] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, so are many wms not hig compliant
[07:51] <RushFreak> anybody else here running feisty?
[07:51] <kingcobra_> RushFreak, #ubuntu+1
[07:52] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: Yes, I have an iconbar, shows open apps. I don't know much about hig compliancy
[07:52] <PresuntoRJ> RushFreak: I am
[07:53] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: Here's my screenshot of window maker: http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8113/screenshotkv2.png
[07:53] <bullgard4> My program 'Add/Remove Applications lists the program 'MDB Viewer' and adds a short description: "Jet/MS Access database (MDB) file viewer" followed by the Ubuntu icon and another icon similar to a rose. What is the meaning ot that rose?
[07:54] <swimbuddy> i run feisty 64
[07:55] <titun> how do I extract a rar file?
[07:55] <ardchoille> !rar
[07:55] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:55] <PresuntoRJ> titun: try installing the RAR package
[07:55] <titun> I downloaded the unrar source, then how to install that
[07:55] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, looks good i like the stats like cpu box and temp
[07:56] <PresuntoRJ> tintun: on the Terminal (shell) $ sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[07:56] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: Those are known as dockapps and they are all in the repos.
[07:56] <PresuntoRJ> tintun: it works on the prompt later with a simple unrar some_rar_file.rar
[07:57] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, so what is the point in de's then
[07:57] <PresuntoRJ> tintun: and yes, the link ubitu sent also works... ;)
[07:58] <simonxx> is there osx like dock in ubuntu?
[07:58] <swimbuddy> i'd sey that feisty runs better then vista. horray!
[07:58] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: Personal preference mostly. gnome and kde are good for lots of eye candy. I don't like eye candy much so a wm suits me. I have an 8 year old niece who runs Edgy and she uses gnome with beryl.
[07:58] <poningru> !dock | simonxx
[07:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:58] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: Also, light wm's are great for older hardware.
[07:59] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, ubuntu itself isnt great for old hardware though is it
[07:59] <ardchoille> Heh, an 8 year old who installs and runs Ubuntu. If that isn't esy, I don't know what is.
[08:00] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, yeah thats impressive
[08:00] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: gnome, isn't, but Ubuntu can be installed in many different modes, including server (no gui at all).
[08:00] <kingcobra_> id say shed have to ask you when shes setting up her wifi card though
[08:00] <ardchoille> hehe
[08:01] <Grindar> well, at work and just won the auction for the core duo
[08:02] <simonxx> why everyone excited about core duo?
[08:02] <mobius> hey guys, i've got ubuntu server installed and have somehow managed to break my sudo. it's stopped working
[08:02] <cafuego_> why not? beats easter bunnies.
[08:02] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, how would you go about installing ubuntu with minimalistic gui
[08:02] <Cheyenne> Anyone know anything about "XDMCP"?
[08:02] <Grindar> but boobs still top the list
[08:02] <mobius> anyone know how i'd go about rectifying this?
[08:02] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: The only drawback, that I've seen, with a window manager versus gnome or kde is that wm's tend to not show new menu items by default.. yo have to manually write your menu files. Some wm's, like Window Maker, come with a graphical menu editor, some don't.
[08:02] <Grindar> become gay?
[08:02] <Cheyenne> !XDMCP
[08:02] <ubotu> xdmcp is the X Display Manger Control Protocol -- look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ to find out how to configure it
[08:03] <Grindar> sorry, couldn't help the joke
[08:03] <krinns> hi all
[08:03] <krinns> am using openoffice and kmail on ubuntu
[08:03] <krinns> i got crash handler errors oftenly
[08:03] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: I think I would install xubuntu or maybe ubuntu and then install and use a light wm. Depends on the hardware available.
[08:04] <ant-> ardchoille : we've been telling him to do that all day long
[08:04] <EADG> If I could watch movies in Screen I'd rarly use a wm.
[08:04] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: If you want to get really minimal, try blackbox.. that was too minimal even for me.
[08:04] <ardchoille> ant-: Ah, good point.
[08:04] <Cheyenne> Can anyone help me with XDMCP?
[08:04] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: The best way to see how they work is to install one and try it out.
[08:04] <ant-> i dont think blackbox is being developed anymore is it?
[08:05] <kingcobra_> ant-, sorry
[08:05] <kingcobra_> all night here :)
[08:05] <ant-> hehe
[08:05] <|Amon|> what's the command to check a partition size from bash?
[08:05] <|Amon|> i don't wanna do du -h
[08:05] <Cheyenne> I want to be able to log into diffrent Ubuntu boxes on my local network
[08:05] <mobius> my ubuntu server has suddenly decided that I am no longer allowed to sudo. anyone got any ideas on how to correct this?
[08:06] <EADG> df -h
[08:06] <|Amon|> EADG, isn't there a way to do it so that it just grabs the size of the partition without scanning everything in the partition ?
[08:06] <Cheyenne> Can anyone help me with XDMCP?
[08:06] <Cheyenne> I want to be able to log into diffrent Ubuntu boxes on my local network
[08:06] <|Amon|> ya df -h is the one i was trying to think of
[08:06] <|Amon|> th
[08:06] <|Amon|> x
[08:07] <|Amon|> how can i check what name a partition has
[08:07] <Hellevator> what command can I use to find my cpu temperature?
[08:07] <ant-> Hellevator : acpi -V
[08:08] <titun> PresuntoRJ, thanks, rar worked
[08:08] <ant-> |Amon| : i dont think you can name partitions except for where they are mounted...
[08:08] <EADG> |Amon|: Not sure, never boothered to check.
[08:08] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, ill try blackbox on a comp at home any other nice but still pretty light ones
[08:08] <titun> PresuntoRJ, actuallly if first gave error as I had not configured my reposositoroes correctly
[08:09] <ant-> kingcobra_ : fluxbox is based on blackbox but is heavily developed
[08:09] <tripppy> is there a howto or mod for ubuntu to be a deadly file server?
[08:09] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: Be prepared that blackbox is a really minimalistic wm. No taskbar, no panel. You might want to try fluxbox first.
[08:09] <|Amon|> ant-, no i mean like in certain partition editors you can name a partition
[08:09] <Hellevator> ant-, when I type acpi -v it says "no support for device type: thermal"
[08:09] <kingcobra_> ant-, flux is pretty light then also is it
[08:09] <|Amon|> also what can use to scan my hard drives for bad sectors?
[08:09] <cafuego_> tripppy: Define "deadly file server"
[08:10] <ant-> kingcobra_ : yes, it has more whistles than blackbox but is still real lite
[08:10] <cafuego_> tripppy: If you drop one from high enough, any file server is deadly
[08:10] <|Amon|> e2fsck?
[08:10] <ant-> kingcobra_ : my desktop loads less than a second after i type in my passwd
[08:10] <ant-> kingcobra_ : no waiting at all
[08:10] <kingcobra_> yeah i might try fluxbox first
[08:10] <ant-> ok maybe a second
[08:11] <kingcobra_> :)
[08:11] <ant-> fluxbox is nice, just install ubuntu and then install fluxbox
[08:11] <|Amon|> i love fluxbox
[08:11] <|Amon|> i'm using it now
[08:11] <ant-> me too and i love it as well
[08:11] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: The thing I like about fluxbox is it has a task tray in the toolbar.
[08:11] <kingcobra_> youve probly got 3 r 4 gig graphics cards linked together in there though
[08:11] <|Amon|> ant-, lol fluxbox has no 'whistles'
[08:11] <kingcobra_> :)
[08:11] <ant-> easy to config and very lite
[08:11] <|Amon|> maybe they're whistles to you... :p
[08:12] <ardchoille> lol
[08:12] <ant-> heh
[08:12] <titun> btw can I play .3gp videos in ubuntu, what codecs are needed?
[08:12] <PresuntoRJ> tintun: if you follow the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140 it says you need to add a repository
[08:12] <PresuntoRJ> not available by default for safety
[08:12] <Polybius> howdy howdy
[08:12] <PresuntoRJ> tintu: can you run the Add/Remove applications?
[08:12] <ant-> safety first
[08:12] <|Amon|> and i messed up my mouse earlier... i was trying to get my 5 button mouse to work in firefox but i got the scrollbar acting as a back/forward button now instead of a up/down wheel and i have no idea what i did to do it because i followed the tutorial...
[08:13] <Polybius> is there theme support for Rhythmbox?
[08:13] <PresuntoRJ> tintun: what version of Ubuntu do you have?
[08:13] <titun> PresuntoRJ, r u asking me?
[08:13] <PresuntoRJ> titun: yeap.. u said u had problem with repository
[08:13] <titun> oh....I had not edited the default repos
[08:14] <titun> PresuntoRJ, now its ok, unrar installed
[08:14] <PresuntoRJ> titun: ok :)
[08:14] <titun> PresuntoRJ, btw I am titun, not tintun :-)
[08:14] <PresuntoRJ> titun: managed to extract the file than?
[08:14] <titun> yes
[08:14] <PresuntoRJ> titun: my bad
[08:15] <titun> along with a password protected one also
[08:15] <titun> Ubuntu is very neat
[08:15] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, ok ill probly try flux box first, how do you disable gnome
[08:15] <kingcobra_> after install
[08:15] <titun> how do I play 3gp videos? what codes are needed?
[08:15] <kam|k> good morning
[08:15] <PresuntoRJ> titun: did it work in the GUI application also (I am asking cause I never tried to open a password protect RAR my self)
[08:15] <ant-> kingcobra_ : when you get to the login screen click on sessions and choose fluxbox
[08:16] <PresuntoRJ> titun: what version r u in?
[08:16] <titun> PresuntoRJ, no, only CLI
[08:16] <titun> PresuntoRJ, Edgy
[08:16] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: Don't need to. once fluxbox is installed, just log out of gnome and choose fluxbox at the options menu before you log back in and it'll log you into fluxbox.
[08:16] <PresuntoRJ> titun: wait and see... feisty is amazingly better (as they did with every upgrade)
[08:17] <titun> PresuntoRJ, also tried with GUI, asking for password, good
[08:17] <PresuntoRJ> titun: I am already tring the beta in my personal laptop (nothing critical or production, just for fun)
[08:17] <PresuntoRJ> titun: nice
[08:17] <titun> PresuntoRJ, what visible new features added ??
[08:17] <chocotaku> Hello all! I'm extremely new to linux and having a huge pain getting ubuntu running. Was wondering if someone can walk me through my problem areas?
[08:17] <PresuntoRJ> titun: most basic steps will become obvious with time...
[08:18] <ardchoille> chocotaku: We'll need to know the problems you are having.
[08:18] <titun> PresuntoRJ, ok..what changes a new user like me notice first
[08:18] <PresuntoRJ> even the CLI (actually, they call it shell, from the Unix background) is easy to handle
[08:18] <chocotaku> Ok, well it started when I downloaded edgy 6.1 livecd
[08:18] <Bacta> I just installed GCC, why doesn't it have the header files?
[08:18] <PresuntoRJ> titun: have you tried $man unrar ?
[08:19] <titun> PresuntoRJ, yes
[08:19] <|Amon|> i have a partition on /dev/hda4 that's fat32 for storage between nix and doz. how can i move it to /dev/hda3? there is no /dev/hda3 cuz /dev/hda4 shoulda been /dev/hda3 but gparted messed it up
[08:19] <titun> PresuntoRJ, thats how I knew the options
[08:19] <kingcobra_> ant-, ardchoille thats great im looking forward to trying that next time im home
[08:19] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: Good luck :)
[08:19] <chocotaku> I ran the cd and chose option run livecd or install, it loaded and got to the splash screen, then it when the desktop gui should have loaded it the screen became scrambled garbage
[08:19] <chocotaku> I read up on it, tried booting in safe graphics mode, no change ;
[08:20] <sec_> morning
[08:20] <titun> PresuntoRJ, btw no one answered, can I play 3gp videos?
[08:20] <sec_> !check specs
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about check specs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <sec_> !specs info
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about specs info - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <Bacta> I just installed GCC, why doesn't it have the header files?
[08:20] <sec_> !specs
[08:20] <titun> !3gp
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about specs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3gp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <sec_> hmm
[08:20] <PresuntoRJ> titun: what is this? a video codec?
[08:20] <sec_> titun: on ubuntu , how easy to show spec of laptop?
[08:20] <ant-> kingcobra_ : goto fluxbox-wiki.org to get config info on it
[08:21] <kingcobra_> is there an way to save all updates and maybe a few apps to disk so that you wouldnt need internet connection when installing ubuntu
[08:21] <Polybius> Anybody know if there is theme support for RhythmBox?
[08:21] <kingcobra_> ant-, ok
[08:21] <sec_> PresuntoRJ: on ubuntu , how easy to show spec of laptop?
[08:21] <chocotaku> So I downloaded the 6.06 alternate install cd, I got it to install, but it does the same thing, after splash screen the screen shows garbage and the system hangs, can't ctr alt F1 or do anything
[08:21] <sec_> ant-: on ubuntu , how easy to show spec of laptop?
[08:21] <titun> PresuntoRJ, no, a compressed video format playable in many mobile phones, and Quick time
[08:21] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: spec for what, man? the hardware?
[08:21] <Polybius> Chocotaku: what video card are you using?
[08:22] <sec_> PresuntoRJ: yes, the hardware
[08:22] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: Here's a good link for ya: http://www.fluxbox.org/docbook.php
[08:22] <chocotaku> ATI 9600, I'm hearing that it doesn't play well with ubunt
[08:22] <titun> PresuntoRJ, in XP, VLC plays this format
[08:22] <sec_> PresuntoRJ: i am going to buy new laptop
[08:22] <chocotaku> radeon 9600*
[08:22] <Flannel> kingcobra_: second result.  Have to scroll down a bit (search for halfop on the page, a couple times)
[08:22] <titun> !mp3
[08:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:22] <sec_> PresuntoRJ: so need to check its specs
[08:22] <PresuntoRJ> titun: I have no idea since I never really tried... but any compression is usually due to a enconder (hence, the CoDec)
[08:23] <PresuntoRJ> titun: there are free and non-free codecs for many video formats, but I never heard of 3gd
[08:23] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: ok...
[08:23] <titun> PresuntoRJ, most videos shot in a camera cell phone produce this .3gp video
[08:23] <Twiztr>  So...                                                                                8ball
[08:23] <sec_> PresuntoRJ: which commands?
[08:23] <|Amon|> i have a partition on /dev/hda4 that's fat32 for storage between nix and doz. how can i move it to /dev/hda3? there is no /dev/hda3 cuz /dev/hda4 shoulda been /dev/hda3 but gparted messed it up
[08:24] <EADG> titun install VLC
[08:24] <titun> EADG, thanks, let me see
[08:24] <chocotaku> Is it extended or primary amon?
[08:24] <|Amon|> 3gp is a container format
[08:24] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: people alway tell me that since the guys in canonical prefer IBM thinkpads... (now lenovo) thats where u should go
[08:24] <nanobug> Feisty beta is great
[08:24] <nanobug> i love it
[08:24] <whta> does opengl just not work at all with ati cards?
[08:25] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: but it runs smoothly at my Compaq too
[08:25] <nanobug> i didnt think it was possible to make this many improvements on edgy
[08:25] <nanobug> but wow.
[08:25] <Polybius> whta: it works...but ATI drivers suck
[08:25] <kingcobra_> Flannel, quite hard to find, wel don
[08:25] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: and WinModem works at Feisty
[08:25] <Polybius> i know...too me a while to get mine working properly
[08:25] <chocotaku> Nothing works with ATI cards >< I'm here trying to find out how to get past the splash screen on my comp :(
[08:25] <nanobug> thats misinformation
[08:25] <Polybius> dude
[08:25] <nanobug> my ati card works fine
[08:25] <whta> polybius: every opengl application i've tried running aside from beryl has just not worked, namely world of warcraft and project64.. through wine, that is
[08:25] <nanobug> it depends on the card and what you're trying to do
[08:25] <sec_> PresuntoRJ: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00620032&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=1843736&lang=en
[08:26] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: and its a Amarda M700 PIII 850Mhz 512M 20G
[08:26] <Polybius> hmm
[08:26] <jaminkle> anyone know abything about linksys wifi pci cards? will they be picked up ok
[08:26] <aj_> are linksys wireless pcmica cards usable with breezy
[08:26] <nanobug> if you're using the ATI closed source driver and running XGL/Beryl
[08:26] <Polybius> those with ATI problems join #ATI_drivers_suck
[08:26] <jaminkle> pci*
[08:26] <chocotaku> Well its a radeon  9600 and i"m trying to load ubuntu without it hanging after the splash screen
[08:26] <jaminkle> not laptop
[08:26] <nanobug> you wont be able to use openGL apps unless you change your session back to one w/o acceleration
[08:26] <Polybius> cause mine works
[08:26] <Polybius> i think i can help
[08:26] <sec_> Polybius: which?
[08:27] <nanobug> you can't use XGL and OpenGL apps
[08:27] <Rio> i bought a pc that came with a cd filled with drivers for the motherboard.  on the cd, the readme.txt file says that it is for windows.... how would i use the drivers for ubuntu, or how do i know if ubuntu already knew which drivers to use???
[08:27] <PresuntoRJ> titun: u can look for a application at the shell with $apt-cache search pattern | grep filter
[08:27] <nanobug> chocotaku: Have you tried the alternate-install cd?
[08:27] <PresuntoRJ> titun: pattern as a primary word, and filter if it spits several hundreds of lines
[08:28] <chocotaku> Yes, I tried livecds first, versions 6.1 and 6.06, they both hang but 6.06 at least lets me boot in graphics safe mode
[08:28] <hacosta> Rio: that's a great question, actually drivers are mostly "built in" ubuntu, so you won't be needind that windows cd
[08:28] <PresuntoRJ> titun: I have found nothing with $apt-cache search 3gp
[08:28] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, thanks for link, do you know anything about storing updates for offline install on other ubuntu comp
[08:28] <chocotaku> I tried the alternate 6.06 and it installed correctly
[08:28] <chocotaku> but same thing after grub loads
[08:28] <PresuntoRJ> it does not mean it does not have support... it might not be obvious...
[08:28] <chocotaku> hangs after splash screen
[08:28] <nanobug> ok
[08:28] <titun> PresuntoRJ, this is to search where?
[08:28] <PresuntoRJ> titun: it does not mean it does not have support... it might not be obvious...
[08:28] <nanobug> hold on i may be able to help
[08:28] <whta> nanobug: i think the problem was there before i made the xgl session
[08:28] <hacosta> and _most_ of your hardware will probably work out of the box...
[08:29] <catxk> quit
[08:29] <PresuntoRJ> titun: this is to search on every repository your machine is set to download from
[08:29] <titun> PresuntoRJ, silly me
[08:29] <aj_> are linksys wireless pcmica cards usable with breezy
[08:29] <Ademan_brb> !dma
[08:29] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[08:29] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: You're welcome :) No, I don't know how to do the offline updates stuff :(
[08:29] <sec_> PresuntoRJ: how check if this laptop duo core or not?
[08:29] <Flannel> kingcobra_: check out 'apt on cd' it's on sourceforge, if nowhere else.
[08:30] <Flannel> kingcobra_: basically, if you just download and burn to a CD, you can sneakernet.
 mostly?  well, it seems that ubuntu seems a little choppy, but when i had windows installed, it seemed choppy as well... until i installed the drivers....
[08:30] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: great machine... I dont think u will have any problems, but to be sure, there is a list at HP with the HCL for linux support (it depends on the kernel version, not the distro)
[08:30] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, flannel thanks
[08:30] <chocotaku> Oh and I forgot to mention nano, I did a md5sum on all the cds I burned, burned them all at low speeds and did a cd check from the boot menu
[08:30] <Ademan_brb> !dvd
[08:30] <titun> PresuntoRJ, I will search and let u know
[08:30] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:30] <nanobug> chocotaku: is this a straight up 9600 or a mobility?
[08:30] <Flannel> kingcobra_: apt-on-cd helps you manage dependencies and stuff, if I understand it correctly.
[08:31] <sec_> PresuntoRJ: ok. how check then?
[08:31] <slvmchn> how can i connect two ubuntu machines via cat5 and then transfer files between them? ftp?
[08:31] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: do u have it or want to know if it has dual core?
[08:31] <Ademan_brb> anyone familiar with a bug where the dvd drive seems to lock up or become extremely slow? (all attempts to read it seem to fail)
[08:31] <hacosta> Rio: well perhaps something was not detected, it might as well be choppy to your liking though
[08:31] <chocotaku> ati radeon 9600xt, bought it cheap on ebay, it was PAL which the seller didn't tell me, flashed it to ntsc and it works fine in windows
[08:31] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: it says it is a Centrino Duo, it should be
[08:31] <kingcobra_> Flannel, dont know what that means but ill look it up now
[08:31] <sec_> PresuntoRJ: want to know if its has dual core, i am using live cd ubuntu
[08:32] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: if u want to kn ow if ubuntu is handling them try $ cat /proc/cpuinfo
[08:32] <PresuntoRJ> it should show at least two CPUs (0 and 1)
[08:32] <detectiveinspekt> apt-get install phpmyadmin, phpmyadmin not found, using 6.10 server
[08:32] <nanobug> okay so you've said that the distro installed just fine but its just hanging on the splash screen
[08:32] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: try $ cat /proc/interrupts
[08:32] <Rio> wow.... just got booted to the login screen when i changed the resolution.  is that normal?
[08:33] <chocotaku> Yes
[08:33] <nanobug> so the first thing we need to do is get rid of the splash screen and find out whats going on
[08:33] <chocotaku> I can't ctr alt f1 or do anything
[08:33] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: it should list many devices and if the CPUs are aware of them
[08:33] <Rio> ohh... mmkay
[08:33] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: what do you see with those commands?
[08:33] <Flannel> detectiveinspekt: you'll need to enable universe
[08:33] <nanobug> can you get to a desktop from the livecd?  if not we can work around that but it will make things easier
[08:33] <kingcobra_> Flannel, sneakernet great word thought you made it up first
[08:33] <sec_> PresuntoRJ: i am going to buy
[08:33] <detectiveinspekt> can I trust it?
[08:33] <Flannel> kingcobra_: nope.  Its a technical term ;)
[08:34] <chocotaku> Yes, only the 6.06 livecd and only in safe graphics mode
[08:34] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: what is your ubuntu version? try $ uname -a
[08:34] <sec_> PresuntoRJ: 6.06 LTS
[08:34] <detectiveinspekt> no i think i'll just do the manual way
[08:34] <nanobug> okay.  are you on a secondary computer right now or are you using the livecd as we speak
[08:34] <cafuego_> lsb_release
[08:34] <Rio> i forget who i was talking to... but ubuntu seems choppy.  under windows, it was choppy, but it was fixed once i installed the drivers....
[08:34] <Flannel> PresuntoRJ, sec_, `lsb_release -a` gets you Ubuntu version
[08:34] <chocotaku> I'm using the windows port of gaim from XP to have the pleasure of being here tonight
[08:34] <cafuego_> lsb_release -r actually
[08:35] <nanobug> okay so you're in a dual boot setup then?
 wait a sec... my screen resolution did not change...
[08:35] <chocotaku> Yes
[08:35] <sec_> $ lsb_release -r
[08:35] <sec_> Release:        6.06
[08:35] <nanobug> okay thanks.
[08:35] <nanobug> choco i'm going to private message you so i can help you easier
[08:35] <chocotaku> Ok
[08:35] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, is apt not a command in gnome actually
[08:35] <PresuntoRJ> Flannel: thanks, I was trying to remember this too, but only the kernel version shows if it has support for SMP
[08:36] <beg1689> is it possible to have video redirected to another screen?
[08:36] <Flannel> PresuntoRJ: right.
[08:36] <sec_> PresuntoRJ: cat /proc/interrupts will must show two CPUs?
[08:37] <Polybius> anybody know if rhythmbox supports themes? i can't seem to find anything anywhere...
[08:37] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: like a table with CPU 0 and CPU 1 as rows and many numbers regards individuals interrupts from devices
[08:37] <Ademan_brb> how do i know which is my dvd drive and which is my cd burner?  i have /media/cdrom0 and /media/cdrom1
[08:37] <PresuntoRJ> Ademen_brb: what is the order on the IDE?
[08:38] <sec_> PresuntoRJ: thanks. which command to check ATI card and memory of it?
[08:38] <PresuntoRJ> Ademen_brb: usually 0 is for the primary (master) and 1 is for secondary (slave)
[08:38] <sec_> PresuntoRJ: and which command to check RAM
[08:38] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: APT = Advanced Package Tool  more info: man apt
[08:38] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: unfortunately, i have no clue
[08:38] <aj_> exit
[08:38] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: does it show the two processors?
[08:38] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: well i think my hard drive is the IDE master, but i could be wrong
[08:38] <sec_> PresuntoRJ: i am asking before go to buy
[08:39] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: try this: $ dmesg | grep CD
[08:39] <sec_> PresuntoRJ: i have live cd ubuntu 6.06 for that commands
[08:39] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: just fyi i'm asking because hdparm is taking ungodly amounts of time to execute
[08:40] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: is will list the boot log, filtering for the word CD (maybe DVD) and it can help u identify the device
[08:40] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, doesnt kde use something different ***titude
[08:40] <kingcobra_> somethin like that
[08:40] <Flannel> kingcobra_: adept
[08:40] <sec_> PresuntoRJ: ?
[08:40] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: my shows: [    7.272000]  hdb: HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8082N, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[08:40] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: I don't know anything about kde
[08:40] <Flannel> kingcobra_: adept is to KDE as synaptic is to gnome.  both aptitude, and apt-get are CLI and version agnostic
[08:40] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: sorry
[08:40] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: what?
[08:41] <Flannel> kingcobra_: well, aptitude has a curses based GUI as well.  but still terminal based
[08:41] <sec_> 13:40 < sec_> PresuntoRJ: thanks. which command to check ATI card and memory of it?
[08:41] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: neither CD nor DVD turned up anything (nor grep -i either of those)
[08:41] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: I got lost here trying a commando
[08:41] <sec_> 13:40 < sec_> PresuntoRJ: and which command to check RAM
[08:41] <nanobug> chocotaku is your irc client set to ignore private messages?
[08:41] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: try $ dmesg | grep ATI
[08:41] <kingcobra_> Flannel, ah yes it makes sense
[08:42] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: it shows the log from the boot time and filters for ATI... it might have a description of what was detected
[08:42] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: although grep device turned up a veritable assload of "Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block SomeNumber" which sounds like my hardware might be borked
[08:42] <Jewelthief> #beryl
[08:42] <nanobug> no #compiz
[08:42] <nanobug> lol
[08:42] <nanobug> :P
[08:43] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: there is also $ lspci
[08:43] <chocotaku> wb nano, I didn't get your im
[08:43] <nanobug> you didn't
[08:43] <nanobug> hmmm
[08:43] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: not fun...
[08:43] <nanobug> okay well I will try to do this in here
[08:43] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, so apt isnt a gnome command, its a ubuntu command like you said earlier
[08:43] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: do they work on other OS? Windows?
[08:44] <nanobug> when you say that it hangs on the spash screen I am assuming you mean the black background, ubuntu loading screen with the progress bar, correct?
[08:44] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: Correct.
[08:44] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: i couldn't tell you, it's been 1 year+ since i had XP on this machine :-)
[08:44] <Ademan_brb> and i've been happy till now... lol
[08:44] <Ademan_brb> not that i'm unhappy
[08:44] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: any luke?
[08:44] <Ademan_brb> just a bit, well, frustrated
[08:44] <nanobug> if that is the case, what we need to do is edit your grub.conf file to remove the 'quiet' option that is loading that splash screen instead of allowing the normal text output
[08:44] <chocotaku> Well what it is is a scrambled block of colors, kinda looks like the windows xp welcome screen but all skewed lol
[08:44] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: I suspect they might be broken...
[08:45] <nanobug> okay
[08:45] <nanobug> hmmm
[08:45] <kingcobra_> Flannel, that apt on cd sounds great, very nice sourceforge page too
[08:45] <nanobug> that presents something new
[08:45] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: if u put a CD on either, do they mount and show up in the file manager?
[08:45] <Ademan_brb> it's 50/50
[08:45] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: does it show an icon in the desktop?
[08:45] <Ademan_brb> same deal
[08:46] <nanobug> okay from the liveCD do you have access to the internet?  can you reboot into the liveCD and meet me back here?
[08:46] <Ademan_brb> inconsistent at best
[08:46] <nanobug> Im certain I can help you but it will be difficult from windows
[08:46] <|Amon|> Does *ANYONE* have any idea how come my mouse wheel is moving my firefox tabs back and forth when it should be the further left buttons and right buttons?
[08:46] <PresuntoRJ> kingcobra_: it does not work on Feisty and was glitch on Edgy... its a blizz unde Daooer thou
[08:46] <chocotaku> I can't access the internet from the livecd with my know-how ; Im on a wireless network and I can't get connected to the router to save my life
[08:46] <beg1689> anyone know how i can get my extra mouse buttons to work
[08:46] <nanobug> yikes
[08:46] <nanobug> okay.
[08:46] <|Amon|> i tried to get my mouse to support 5 buttons earlier by installing imwheel and editing the xorg.conf file and imwheelrc file and followed it to the t, and somehow it messed my wheel up
[08:47] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: still there?
[08:47] <chocotaku> even disabling the security completely on the router just to get it set up
[08:47] <|Amon|> and neither of the extra buttons are working properly
[08:47] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: any progress?
[08:47] <nanobug> is there any particular reason you've chosen dapper over edgy or feisty beta?
[08:47] <kingcobra_> PresuntoRJ, theres a new release candidate out now which might work
[08:47] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: yeah, sad but true, although one other possibility is, i dropped in a nice budget NVIDIA card, is it possible i maxed out my power supply? (or even zapped a component.... :-/)
[08:47] <nanobug> aside from dapper is the only live cd thats even letting you get to a desktop?
[08:47] <nanobug> lol
[08:47] <chocotaku> I chose dapper because it at least lets be boot from the livecd (in safe graphics mode) without hanging
[08:47] <nanobug> okay
[08:47] <chocotaku> Lol nope
[08:48] <Elendal> Hello, I have ubuntu server vmware image, but it lacks glibc man pages. What package should I install to get them?
[08:48] <Ademan_brb> although the nvidia card works great, i suppose if my power supply was being maxed out, the video card wouldn't work...
[08:48] <PresuntoRJ> kingcobra_: havent tried yet... keep us posted
[08:48] <|Amon|> anybody
[08:48] <|Amon|> ?
[08:48] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: :-/ I am sad
[08:48] <drcode> hi all
[08:49] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: really
[08:49] <kingcobra_> PresuntoRJ, i wont be using it for a good while but ill try
[08:49] <drcode> I need help with rt61 on ubuntu edgy
[08:49] <sec_> PresuntoRJ: yes
[08:49] <sec_> PresuntoRJ: yes
[08:49] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: me too, i just bought the futurama season 3 box set... haha
[08:49] <drcode> i have install the driver but i can't change the mode
[08:49] <FearMoth> I installed ubuntu 6.10 server with apache2/php5/mysql. is there any way to use the ZipArchive class without recompiling php?
[08:49] <drcode> it remain on auto all the time
[08:49] <nanobug> well what i can do is tell you how to edit your grub.conf file, from the livecd, and also edit your xorg.conf file in the hopes that either a) the edits to the xorg.conf file will allow you to boot up into safe graphics mode or b) if not the edits to grub.conf will at least let us find out what the error is so we can go from there
[08:49] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: in the GUI, there are two applets to help probe hardware information
[08:50] <chocotaku> Did I mention I ran md5sums on all the cds I burned, burned them all at low speeds and used the cd test diagnostic?
[08:50] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: one is installed default, therefore it might work from the LiveCD
[08:50] <nanobug> yes
[08:50] <chocotaku> kk
[08:50] <kingcobra_> is there any advantage of installing an app with deb instead of through repos other than updates
[08:50] <chocotaku> Ok yes, from the livecd in safe graphics mode I can enter text mode
[08:51] <PresuntoRJ> sec:_ in my Feisty it sits on System>Adminstration>Hardware Information
[08:51] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: I also found one you might need to insall
[08:51] <Ademan_brb> kingcobra_: no advantage except the deb you found MIGHT be newer
[08:51] <linuxnooblah> how do i mount a partition if the option is grayed out in gparted
[08:51] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: $ sudo apt-get install hardinfo
[08:52] <Elendal> What do I need to install to get cstdlib man pages?
[08:52] <Ademan_brb> kingcobra_: and you need to be careful of those debs, since they could be compiled with different versions of libc and/or with a different version of gcc, in which case they may not work at all
[08:52] <Chesney> Anyone know a decent guide for adding a new resolution to your xorg.conf file.... Since the system > Preferences > Screen resolution doesn't have the resolution I need.
[08:52] <mildKisser> hi, has anyone been able to install xmms2???
[08:52] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: it will go to Applications>System Tools>Hardinfo
[08:52] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: they are both fine and pretty complete
[08:53] <kingcobra_> Ademan_brb, so repos is usually safer then
[08:53] <linuxnooblah> how do i mount a partition if the option is grayed out in gparted
[08:53] <Ademan_brb> kingcobra_: definitely, what's the deb in question here? (just out of curiosity?)
[08:53] <kingcobra_> aptoncd
[08:54] <m0nk_> hey guys
[08:54] <kingcobra_> Ademan_brb, its in repos in feisty apparently
[08:54] <m0nk_> i kinda n00bed out
[08:54] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: try this
[08:54] <m0nk_> i need a bit of help really quick
[08:54] <Chesney> linuxnooblah, mount -t <filesystem> /dev/hda* /mnt/mountpoint     changing * to the partiton you need?
[08:54] <m0nk_> what are the default permissions of my home directory?
[08:55] <linuxnooblah> Chesney: ill give it a go
[08:55] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: $ ls /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/
[08:55] <Chesney> linuxnooblah, what are you doing exactly
[08:55] <sec_> PresuntoRJ: i have no fei..
[08:55] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: no output
[08:55] <PresuntoRJ> sec_: the packages might be available at least at the Edgy version
[08:55] <Ademan_brb> no error either
[08:56] <linuxnooblah> Chesney: i formatted a fat32 partition in gparted so i can put stuff on it between xp and ubuntu but i cant see the partition
[08:56] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: odd
[08:56] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: Mine shows a number (could be different at your machine) C105
[08:56] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: yep, nothing, it's an old box, iirc maybe APM would have something?
[08:57] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: and if I cat /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/C105/state it shows several info
[08:57] <Chesney> linuxnooblah, ok, so its got a filesystem on it. whats its location like partition 1, 2 ,3?
[08:57] <linuxnooblah> 3
[08:57] <Elendal> What do I need to install to get cstdlib man pages?
[08:57] <linuxnooblah> had3
[08:58] <linuxnooblah> hda3*
[08:58] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: and if I cat /proc/acpi/battery/C10D/info (and state) there is mor info
[08:58] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: maybe there are no sensor for that
[08:58] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: :-/ i just confirmed there's nothing in nautilus
[08:59] <Chesney> linuxnooblah, ok so assuming sudo mkdir /mnt/mountpoint && mount -t <filesystem> /dev/hda3 /mnt/mountpoint
[08:59] <Ademan_brb> lol apparently my computer is powerless
[08:59] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: can u try $ sudo apt-get install sensord lm-sensors
[08:59] <Chesney> linuxnooblah, I'm tired, I don't remember the fat32 code off my head, do man mount and find out
[08:59] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: not good
[09:00] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: sorry man, in deed
[09:00] <linuxnooblah> Chesney: ok
[09:00] <ant-> vfat i think
[09:00] <Chesney> linuxnooblah, ant-, thanks
[09:00] <ant-> check that though
[09:00] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: it's going
[09:01] <Zewey> just wondering, does my laptop need to have a dedicated graphic card if i want to set up a 2nd monitor for it?
[09:01] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: can u now go $ cd /proc/acpi/power_resource
[09:01] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: and tell me the $ ls *
[09:01] <lucifiel> Guys, if my applications are crashing right and left, how do I troubleshoot the issue from var/log/messages ?
[09:02] <Ademan_brb> ls * errors (dunno if you meant that literally)
[09:02] <Zewey> lucifiel: what kind of application?
[09:02] <Ademan_brb> but ls has no output
[09:02] <Chesney> ant-, does ubuntu differentiate between SATA drives by changing the /dev/sda? I know some distros symlink their stuff so its always hda
[09:02] <Ademan_brb> ls -a just has . and ..
[09:02] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: you could try $ cat */state , but I am not sure which might indicate the correct power problem
[09:02] <berent> !xilinx
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xilinx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <lucifiel> Zewey, well... there was Nautilus, Rhythmbox, amarok, etc.
[09:03] <berent> Can I install XIlinx on ubuntu edgy
[09:03] <ant-> Chesney : mine are labeled sda so i assume no symlink
[09:03] <linuxnooblah> !vfat
[09:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[09:03] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: nothing
[09:03] <Zewey> lucifiel: i don't think they print into /var/log/messages, but you can try manually running them from a console and see if they print out anything bad
[09:03] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: though, it said it started the sensor daemon, do you think it might be worth restarting?
[09:03] <Chesney> linuxnooblah, Also if you have a SATA drive, and hda doesn't work you need to change it to /dev/sda, assuming its the master, slave would be sdb same for an ide slave, hdb.
[09:03] <mkquist> hey peeps - does edgy support nforce network cards well?
[09:04] <linuxnooblah> Chesney: its ide slave
[09:04] <xtheblack9x> hello
[09:04] <lucifiel> zewey: gehhh, and here I thought Linux was supposed to be stable and not crash a lot. Thank you, though. =)
[09:04] <Zewey> lucifiel: it is :)
[09:04] <Chesney> linuxnooblah, then its probably gonna be /dev/hdb3 if its the third partition on the salve.
[09:05] <Zewey> lucifiel: not sure what you're encountering though
[09:05] <|Amon|> lucifiel, it is. it's the user. :p
[09:05] <rambo3> lucifiel, Linux != Xorg
[09:05] <|Amon|> linux is just a kernel
[09:05] <lucifiel> zewey: Darn it... >>;;
[09:05] <|Amon|> the distribution makes the operating system
[09:05] <lucifiel> hey hye hye hey lol... this is a new install. :p
[09:05] <|Amon|> utilizing projects from gnu and other sources
[09:05] <lucifiel> i just installed it less than 7 hours ago.
[09:06] <Chesney> lucifiel, What in the heck did you do to a new install to kill it that quick?
[09:06] <berent> rpeat Can I install XIlinx on ubuntu edgy
[09:06] <lucifiel> i only installed under 5 applications and then, i installed FUSE
[09:06] <|Amon|> so, technically linux itself isn't an operating system
[09:06] <lucifiel> so i could install ntfs-3g
[09:06] <gordonjcp> lucifiel: if your applications are crashing that often, you have problems
[09:06] <berent> do u people know what is xilinx??
[09:06] <Jewelthief> #beryl
[09:06] <gordonjcp> berent: it's a company that makes semiconductors
[09:06] <berent> well said gordonjcp
[09:06] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: you could, but not really necessary
[09:06] <bullgard4> My program 'Add/Remove Applications lists the program 'MDB Viewer' and adds a short description: "Jet/MS Access database (MDB) file viewer" followed by the Ubuntu icon and another icon similar to a rose.  So, i'd to restart the pc and install again from the live cd.
[09:08] <berent>  can  i install xilinx software on ubuntu edgy
[09:08] <NineTeen67Comet> Whoah nelly .. I've tossed a Linksys wifi card in my media box, and although it's receiving it's not sending (and thus no connection to the network/Internet) .. help? (It's a brand new install, seen at install, seen in my network settings, and shows as ra0 (and wmaster0) .. help?
[09:08] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: drivers, hda, hdc, hdd, ide0 ide1
[09:08] <genii> berent No
[09:08] <berent> genii why
[09:08] <Chesney> lucifiel, didn't fromat the partition before dumping your stuff in there?
[09:09] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: try $ cd ide0 (and later 1)
[09:09] <Chesney> lucifiel, reformat*
[09:09] <genii> berent It uses an entitrely different internal scheme
[09:09] <ant-> !wifi | NineTeen67Comet
[09:09] <ubotu> NineTeen67Comet: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:09] <lucifiel> format? uhm... i thought the Ubuntu installation  reformatted for you?
[09:09] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ:  channel hda mate model
[09:09] <berent> genii can u expand ur statement
[09:09] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: can u find a hdb or hdc directory?
[09:09] <lucifiel> uh oh... this doesn't sound good lol.
[09:09] <NineTeen67Comet> thanks ant- I'll hit it up ..
[09:09] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: within ide0? no just hda
[09:09] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: maybe at the ide1
[09:10] <Ademan_brb> k
[09:10] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, what is the difference when you run a window manager with a de and without
[09:10] <Chesney> NineTeen67Comet, I've had the same problem. First are you using edgy, second what the chipset?
[09:10] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: ide1 has hdc and hdd
[09:10] <lucifiel> chesney:  format? uhm... i thought the Ubuntu installation  reformatted for you?
[09:10] <michaelpo> how can i make my ubuntu detect wifi in the area automatically and give options to connect to my choice of connection? what software do I install?
[09:10] <berent> when xilinx can be installed on redhat why not on ubuntu
[09:10] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: try $ cat */model
[09:10] <berent> why??
[09:10] <Chesney> lucifiel, you can opt to skip out of the reformatting if the partition schemes are already inplace
[09:10] <eternaljoy> when I delete and remove things, the hard disk space stays the same and never frees up space. Any ideas pls?
[09:10] <ant-> michaelpo : wifi-radar works ok
[09:11] <Ademan_brb> presunto, the first one is my dvd drive, the second my cd burner
[09:11] <michaelpo> like what winxp can do
[09:11] <ant-> michaelpo : wifi-radar works ok
[09:11] <lucifiel> chesney: anyways, what happened was that it was unallocated space and i created new partitions using Gparted.
[09:11] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: so they were detected, some how
[09:11] <michaelpo> ant-: ok... i give it a try...
[09:11] <lucifiel> chesney i did that before i ran the ubuntu installer btw.
[09:11] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: try $ sudo apt-get install hardinfo
[09:11] <berent> when xilinx can be installed on redhat why not on ubuntu
[09:12] <ant-> ubuntu is based on debian maybe?
[09:12] <bimberi> !debian
[09:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[09:12] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: it will install an applet at Applictions>System Tools>Hardinfo wich handles listing and a few testing of the hardware
[09:12] <Chesney> lucifiel, did you make a partition for swap and one for boot and then another for root or did you do just one whole one for the whole thing?
[09:12] <lucifiel> chesney: let me see... from Disks.
[09:12] <berent> when xilinx can be installed on redhat why not on ubuntu
[09:12] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: it might help us figure out why it does not work (and if it finds it)
[09:13] <ant-> Chesney : he would need atleast 2, / and swap
[09:13] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: it detected my ide hard drive, my cd and dvd drives, and my one sata drive
[09:13] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: at System>Preferences>Hardware Information there is something usefull as well\
[09:13] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: which is which
[09:14] <lucifiel> chesney: oh, first partition i created was an EXT3 partition. it was about 4 gb huge. The second partition is SWAP(Linux-Swap)
[09:14] <lucifiel> the last partition was FAT32.
[09:14] <Chesney> ant-, you can do it without it, well with at least a swap the rest can go on one partiton
[09:14] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: click on them in the hardinfo
[09:14] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: hdc is my dvd
[09:14] <lucifiel> chesney: my swap partition is around 2.44 gb huge. my total ram is  1 gb.
[09:15] <kingcobra_> are some linux apps qt based, some gtk and some others
[09:15] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: ok, good
[09:15] <Ademan_brb> sorry i was trying to find the hardware information
[09:15] <Chesney> Lucifel, 2.5g swap, jesus lol
[09:15] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: since the other is hdd, cdrom0 should be the DVD
[09:15] <ant-> Chesney : i dont think ubuntu will let you install with out atleast a / "root" and a swap partition
[09:15] <Zewey> kingcobra: yes
[09:16] <berent> when xilinx can be installed on redhat why not on ubuntu
[09:16] <PresuntoRJ> put a disk there and try $ sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0
[09:16] <berent> when xilinx can be installed on redhat why not on ubuntu
[09:16] <Chesney> ant-, thats what I was saying, you don't have to have one for /root /boot and swap though
[09:16] <Zewey> lucifiel: you only need as much swap as the size of your ram :p
[09:16] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: put a disk there and try $ sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0
[09:16] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: saw it the first time :-)
[09:16] <lucifiel> GAHHHH but some installation guide recommended that i put 2.5x my ram. lol
[09:16] <genii> berent Sorry, Thought you wrote xenix :)
[09:17] <lucifiel> could that be why everything is crashing? =/
[09:17] <kingcobra_> Zewey, will qt apps work in gnome
[09:17] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: I was trying to confirm what the OS though it was and what it says it is
[09:17] <Ademan_brb> lucifiel: i've got a 4gb swap and 2gb of ram
[09:17] <berent> genii its ok
[09:17] <Ademan_brb> it's excessive, but i'll never be without ram :-)
[09:17] <ant-> thats ridiculous
[09:17] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: dows it mount manually? is the disk working in any other reader?
[09:17] <Zewey> kingcobra_: yes, as well
[09:17] <Chesney> Lucifel, lol my suggestion is, rebuild your partition one for /root /boot and a swap sapce, if you decided to reinstall. Because I don't have a  clue whats going on. What do your system logs say?
[09:17] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: yeah it works in my xbox
[09:18] <Ademan_brb> i don't have a real dvd player anywhere in my house :-(
[09:18] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: but does it mount manually there or not? I think it should...
[09:18] <ROD> hello everyone. please help me finish setting up my wireless
[09:18] <ant-> Chesney : what is his problem?
[09:18] <Lucifel> Chesney: eh?
[09:18] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: hopeless :-)
[09:18] <ROD> my wireless settings are gone (SSID, password) every time I restart. what should I do?
[09:19] <Chesney> ant-, Lucifel, from what I gathered things just keep crashing right?
[09:19] <kingcobra_> do they work better in kde or why are some apps said to be for kde, qt
[09:19] <kingcobra_> Zewey,
[09:19] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: is it a video DVD?
[09:19] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: yeah
[09:19] <Ademan_brb> and mount is taking FOREVER to return
[09:19] <Lucifel> Chesney: I don't know about all that, you keep addressing me in convo
[09:19] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: oopes, it could be a Codec missing or application to handle it too. Although it should show the files as any disc.
[09:20] <ROD> can anyone help me?
[09:20] <Zewey> kingcobra_: Qt is just a GUI toolkit
[09:20] <ant-> lol
[09:20] <Ademan_brb> Qt is evil
[09:20] <lucifiel> chesney:  I read your private message.  what did you mean by "Hey drop what you get from an fdisk /dev/hda then in the program hit p"?
[09:20] <Zewey> kingcobra_: but it'll look for "in place" if you use KDE
[09:20] <lupusbeta> !question > ROD
[09:20] <ROD> yes lubusbeta
[09:20] <ant-> Chesney : there is a Lucifel and a lucifiel
[09:20] <clever[rev] > how would i go about uninstalling gnome and installing kde?
[09:20] <ROD> lupusbeta, yes.
[09:20] <ROD> lupusbeta, you can help me perhaps?
[09:20] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: if it is not broken (which we already believe) it could still work with the propper player
[09:20] <Zewey> is it? I've just borrowed the O'Reilly Qt book to check up on how it's like :p
[09:21] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: The main reason I ran openbox in gnome is because openbox has a much nicer desktop right-click menu than Metacity provides. You can put your entire gnome menus in openbox menus on the desktop.
[09:21] <lupusbeta> ROD, what is your problem?
[09:21] <ROD>  my wireless settings are gone (SSID, password) every time I restart. what should I do?
[09:21] <kingcobra_> Zewey, whats in place
[09:21] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: I prefer $ sudo apt-get install ogle
[09:21] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: well it works but very inconsistently
[09:21] <Ademan_brb> like for instance it only shows up half the time
[09:21] <ant-> kingcobra_ : have you installed fluxbox?
[09:21] <Ademan_brb> and about half of that time, i'm able to play the dvd (same dvd)
[09:21] <lucifiel> ehhh where'd he go to?  lol
[09:21] <ROD> lupusbeta, also I seem to have set a password to one of the modules. so it asks me for some second password every time I connect to my home wireless network
[09:21] <ROD> lupusbeta, so two problems.
[09:21] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: not good yet... it could be electrical... if it was broken it should be for good, and not intermitent
[09:22] <Zewey> kingcobra_: er, natural, consistent with the environment... can't remember the correct word at the moment :x
[09:22] <ardchoille> Zewey: seamless?
[09:22] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: about the codecs... I used automatix2 (www.getautomatix.com) till Edgy and Feisty finds its own
[09:22] <kingcobra_> ant-, i dont think ill be installing it here, i want it for old comps at home
[09:23] <ant-> !automatix | PresuntoRJ
[09:23] <ubotu> PresuntoRJ: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:23] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: anything else it occurs we could try?
[09:23] <ardchoille> !automatix | Ademan_brb
[09:23] <ubotu> Ademan_brb: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:23] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: thanks, although i'm pretty sure i've got the codecs, as it occasionally plays
[09:23] <ant-> lol we bombed em
[09:23] <ardchoille> hehe
[09:23] <linuxnooblah> hmm still no luck with mounting the fat32 partition
[09:23] <Zewey> ardchoille: right. thank you. :)
[09:23] <|Amon|> do i need an ext2 partition at all for ubuntu to work? currently i have /dev/hda1 as ntfs where 'doz is installed, /dev/hda2 which is ext3 where ubuntu is installed, /dev/hda3 which is extended but doesn't seem to be used by anything, and /dev/hda4 which is fat32?
[09:23] <|Amon|> /dev/hda3 is underneath /dev/hda4 in qtparted for some reason
[09:24] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: at the present time, mount is telling me "no medium found"
[09:24] <Ademan_brb> and inserting a disk refuses to show up on the desktop
[09:24] <|Amon|> so would it be safe to delete /dev/hda3 and move /dev/hda4 to /dev/hda3?
[09:24] <lucifiel> did anyone know where Chesney went off to?
[09:24] <PresuntoRJ> ubotu: ok... trying to help... i did not say it was perfect... but it could help with the codecs (prior to Feisty)
[09:25] <ardchoille> !ubotu
[09:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:25] <ant-> lucifiel : i think only s/he knows where s/he went
[09:25] <lHck> hi, how can I sychonize two directires based on two linux ?
[09:25] <kingcobra_> Zewey, so qt apps do work slightly better in kde then?
[09:25] <|Amon|> i guess my swap space is underneath the /dev/hda3 partition which is the same size as the /dev/hda3 partition (1GB)
[09:25] <lHck> automatically keep sychnizing.
[09:25] <lHck> if the other host is alive
[09:25] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: :-p sorry about that... cant really help more...
[09:25] <lucifiel> ant: gah damnit... he/she was trying to help me. oh well.
[09:25] <ardchoille> lHck: man rsync
[09:25] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: I really cant understand why it wont
[09:26] <lHck> ardchoille, i read that already
[09:26] <ardchoille> lHck: Ah, ok
[09:26] <ant-> lucifiel : honestly if a whole bunch of things are crashing i would want to clean install
[09:26] <lHck> ardchoille, but how to do a two-way sychnlizing ?
[09:26] <Zewey> kingcobra_: i don't think there's a huge difference, Qt is just a toolkit for drawing the graphical interface
[09:26] <smoke> hello
[09:26] <lHck> ardchoille, and how to automatically background do it ?
[09:26] <ant-> lucifiel : you did just do a clean install not too long ago right?
[09:26] <lHck> ardchoille, coz the two host are not all the same be online both ?
[09:26] <lucifiel> ant: do you mean to remake all the partitions again and install again?
[09:26] <ardchoille> lHck: have rsync running from a cronjob on each box?
[09:27] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, what would the difference be if you ran openbox without gnome
[09:27] <lucifiel> ant: yes, not more than 8 hours ago.
[09:27] <ant-> lucifiel : then you wont lose anything
[09:27] <|Amon|> does swap space need an extended partition?
[09:27] <|Amon|> too
[09:27] <lHck> ardchoille, let me c
[09:27] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: It would be usable but you wouldn't have the gnome panels, taskbars, trays, desktop icons, etc.
[09:27] <ant-> lucifiel : you dont have to remake the partitions.. their still there
[09:27] <lucifiel> ant: man, i hope so... i wonder what went wrong, though. =(
[09:27] <smoke> um, can someone help me with a problem ... im trying to install ubuntu 64bit to my amd athlon 3800+ system ... and at some point everything freezes ... i've tried both alternate cd and the normal cd ... what could be the problem ?
[09:28] <lucifiel> ant: i'd hate to do a clean reinstall and have this happen again.
[09:28] <KenSentMe> smoke, could you be more specific on what the installation freezes?
[09:28] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: As I said before, the best way to see them in action is to install one and play with it for a while. You can always come back to gnome and uninstall it if you don't want to use it.
[09:28] <ant-> lucifiel : what do you mean the programs crash?
[09:28] <genii> smoke for kernel boot options try using   notls   and notsc
[09:29] <lucifiel> ant: yeah, not just the programs but part of Ubuntu... like Gnome, Nautilus, etc., etc.
[09:29] <genii> smoke notsc first
[09:29] <smoke> i think it freezes after saying 'decompressing the kernel' or something
[09:29] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, would i need them with fluxbox, ill have to try these out soon alright
[09:29] <Zewey> quick question, does a laptop need to have a dedicated graphic card to set up a 2nd monitor on Ubuntu?
[09:29] <xircx> is there away to acess windos partition though ubuntu
[09:29] <clever[rev] > !ntfs
[09:29] <ant-> lucifiel : but what happens exactly?
[09:29] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: Fluxbox has it's own panels, taskbar, tray, etc. You should try Fluxbox out, it's really nice.
[09:29] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:30] <torpedo|dog> Where is the file in which a user's GTK theme selections are stored?
[09:30] <kingcobra_> ardchoille, ok
[09:30] <xircx> !ntfs
[09:30] <genii> Zewey: You can have internal and external working at once but if you want different displays on each you need another video adaptetr
[09:30] <ant-> kingcobra_ : it has right click menu and everything
[09:30] <lucifiel> ant: oh, i just get some message saying that "____ application has crashed" and i get some choices like to Restart the program, send a bug report, etc.,
[09:30] <xtheblack9x> !ntfs
[09:30] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:31] <kingcobra_> does it have desktop icons and a file browser
[09:31] <clever[rev] > genii: there are special programs to get multiple seperate X servers on a single card
[09:31] <ant-> lucifiel : yea i dunno, sounds like a mess, you can keep trying to get help in here but me personally, i would just reinstall, i would make sure to reformat the partitions though
[09:31] <ardchoille> kingcobra_: All the gnome apps you have now (including nautilus) will work in fluxbox.
[09:31] <xircx> damn ima be dead for work tomorrow
[09:31] <xircx> ;\
[09:31] <Zewey> genii: so on generic built-in Intel laptops for example, it's only possible to have both monitors showing the same screen?
[09:31] <kingcobra_> ok
[09:31] <ardchoille> xircx: Just can't let go, eh?
[09:31] <genii> clever[rev] : I imagine you could trick it somehow
[09:32] <lucifiel> ant: all right... so uhm, how do you reformat the partitions? Does the Ubuntu installer do it automatically for you?
[09:32] <clever[rev] > genii: one method is to load a X server running on all outputs at once
[09:32] <Ademan_brb> PresuntoRJ: i really appreciate the help, i gotta wake up early tomorow so i better go to sleep, but i really do appreciate the help
[09:32] <genii> Zewey: clever[rev]  May have some pointers for you if you're set on doing this :)
[09:32] <clever[rev] > genii: then have a second program which acts like a client on each display
[09:32] <ant-> lucifiel : when you get to the part to pick the mount points for your partitions click on the checkbox that says format
[09:32] <|Amon|> does swap space need an extended partition?
[09:32] <lucifiel> okay thank you.
[09:32] <clever[rev] > genii: that second program also acts as a private X server
[09:33] <clever[rev] > genii: and it reads directly from its own private inputs(keyboard/mouse)
[09:33] <lupusbeta> |Amon|, it is recommend to make a swap partition yes
[09:33] <clever[rev] > genii: you may wind up with about 3 X servers running for 2 seperate moniters but youll have it working
[09:33] <genii> I'm imagining you could somehow interlace displays
[09:34] <clever[rev] > genii: and both can be used at the same time
[09:34] <lucifiel> ant: whoa, i guess i better get started now.
[09:34] <rambo3> kingcobra_, E17
[09:34] <|Amon|> lupusbeta, thats not what im asking... /dev/hda3 is a partition that is connected to /dev/hda4... theyre two separate partitions and /dev/hda4 is the swap partition
[09:34] <ant-> lucifiel : if you dont reformat it wont take as long...
[09:34] <clever[rev] > genii: http://netpatia.blogspot.com/2006/09/multiseat-computer-with-ubuntu.html has more info
[09:34] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: it is 4AM for me too
[09:34] <genii> clever[rev] :  Very cool
[09:34] <|Amon|> i want to delete /dev/hda3 so i can move my fat32 partition to /dev/hda3
[09:34] <lucifiel> ant: so basically, i just boot up from the live cd, correct?
[09:34] <Zewey> genii clever[rev] , thanks, was curious if it would be something you could plug and go or if it needed a lot of tweaking :)
[09:34] <ant-> lucifiel : but thats a judgement call, ubuntu will install over the existing
[09:34] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: sorry we could not go further to figure this out
[09:35] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: best of luke
[09:35] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: got to go too
[09:35] <xtheblack9x> sorry im a noob ------ is there a program i would use to get into a .bin file? im trying to install the java JDK ---- sorry used to windows :(
[09:35] <PresuntoRJ> Ademan_brb: bye
[09:35] <clever[rev] > Zewey: ive tryed doing it with just runinng 2 fully seperate X's and X wont even load on tv only
[09:35] <lupusbeta> |Amon|, what do you mean with to partitions connected? mountpoint in the other partition=?
[09:35] <lucifiel> ant: nah, i better reformat. From my experience, not reformatting usually keeps many of the problems you're getting.
[09:35] <clever[rev] > Zewey: in thoery the info on that link would work alot better
[09:35] <ant-> lucifiel : yep, take the same steps as the first install, except you wont have to make the partitions again
[09:35] <|Amon|> lupusbeta, apparently its something gparted did. i don't remember doing it or even making an extended partition on /dev/hda3
[09:35] <KnowledgEngineer> i have problem with my webcam
[09:35] <lucifiel> ant: thank you so much. :)
[09:36] <KnowledgEngineer> user@ubuntu:~$ lsusb
[09:36] <KnowledgEngineer> Bus 004 Device 003: ID 06f8:3003 Guillemot Corp.
[09:36] <NJigelli> ubuntu will not boot on my pc
[09:36] <rambo3> extended  >= hda5
[09:36] <clever[rev] > KnowledgEngineer: so do i(kernel panic on read)
[09:36] <KnowledgEngineer> lsusb see the cam
[09:36] <lupusbeta> |Amon|, ok slowly
[09:36] <xtheblack9x> !bin
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <KnowledgEngineer> but it do not work
[09:36] <lupusbeta> |Amon|, hda is one harddrive hdb is the next
[09:36] <ant-> lucifiel : i just hope you get ubuntu working so its easier to like ;)
[09:36] <kingcobra_> Zewey, so all core functions of a qt based app should work the exact same in a gtk desktop environment
[09:36] <bonifacy> miro12
[09:36] <NJigelli> it says hda not found but there is a hdd installed
[09:36] <lupusbeta> |Amon|, hda1-10 are the different partitions on that harddrive hda
[09:36] <PresuntoRJ> !hardinfo
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardinfo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <|Amon|> i have /dev/hda3 which is extended and then /dev/hda5 which is the swap space (1GB) and i have no idea why it's 'underneath' /dev/hda3
[09:36] <|Amon|> lupusbeta, i know