[11:59] <Ernz> man^rch - I am saving up for one of these: http://system76.com/product_info.php/cPath/2/products_id/189
[11:59] <Andeh> In KDE, where do i find the screen where you can specify how powerful your cpu is and how many effects you want?
[11:59] <atlas95> and so my start splash is died
[11:59] <saddeh> tapas: whats it?
[12:00] <mon^rch> yep am still quite pleased my doom3 and quake4 run better on ubuntu :D :D :D
[12:00] <tapas> saddeh: the link tells you. it frees you from typing filenames and commands fully..
[12:00] <Ernz> mon^rch* - I am saving up for one of these: http://system76.com/product_info.php/cPath/2/products_id/189
[12:00] <BleSS> hi all!
[12:00] <saddeh> tapas: i dont mind actually :)
[12:00] <idefixx> is there a good n64 emu for linux?
[12:00] <kane77> how can I find out number of files in a directory?
[12:01] <HugopigHopcroft> All right, I followed the instructions in that file, and sdb1 apparently exists. However, although it shows up in the dev directory I'm not certain where the contents are located in the filesystem.
[12:01] <tapas> saddeh: you _need_ to use that feature. it will make your life easier whenever you use the shell
[12:01] <__hase> So is there a way to see if Ubuntu at least acknowledges I have two USB ports, like a command I can type or something?
[12:01] <saddeh> okay ill bookmark it
[12:01] <tapas> saddeh: but if you don't care, that 's fine
[12:01] <tapas> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_line_completion
[12:02] <BleSS> I'm using feisty and I'd install a package of gutsy, how?
[12:02] <mon^rch> Ernz: that almost the same system as mine./.. you'll be very pleased
[12:02] <saddeh> tapas: thanks
[12:02] <saddeh> tapas: thought i dont get what is that yet :D
[12:03] <tom_> hey guys i've got a sound blaster live and it supports hardware mixing, anyone know how to set it up in Ubuntu?
[12:03] <mon^rch> Ernz: get a 512MB vid card tho ;)
[12:03] <tapas> saddeh: simply try ls /ho<tab>/sa<tab>
[12:03] <Ernz> mon^rch - I hope for the sake of world domination, you are joking.
[12:03] <tapas> and press the tab key when there's a <tab> in my example
[12:04] <ROnewbie> how do I install a wireless driver /
[12:04] <ROnewbie> /
[12:04] <ROnewbie> ?
[12:04] <mon^rch> Ernz: joking about what?
[12:04] <BleSS> any help? please
[12:04] <Ernz> mon^rch - It's the kinda PC you would have behind a velvet curtain in a dark, underground cave, controlling a "huge freaking lazoooor"
[12:04] <ROnewbie> i downloaded it as a .gz file, dunno what to do with it now.
[12:04] <tapas> ROnewbie: what kind of driver is it?
[12:05] <tapas> ROnewbie: for what kind of device?
[12:05] <tapas> ROnewbie: where did you get it from?
[12:05] <m0u5e> anyone know how to manually configure deps of a deb install?
[12:05] <saddeh> tapas: ah yea, but.. well i think ill find it more useful as i will be using terminal more often :)
[12:05] <m0u5e> for example, i want to install exaile 0.2.9 (the newest version) and yet it wants me to install a dep of python 2.4-minimal
[12:05] <tapas> saddeh: yes it's most useful as a preventor of typing errors
[12:05] <m0u5e> it runs with 2.5, so i dont want to install 2.4-minimal, anyone know how i can break that dep manually?
[12:05] <tapas> saddeh: cause if the computer completed the word you know the file exists :)
[12:05] <Ernz> m0u5e - There is a 2.1.0 SVN versio out - it's niiice.
[12:06] <tapas> saddeh: otherwise it wouldn't have completed it
[12:06] <m0u5e> ernz: for exaile?
[12:06] <saddeh> tapas: indeed
[12:06] <mon^rch> Ernz: well I'm not in a dark cave but I do have a 500GB /home and a 250GB / (and serve to my friends and colleagues)
[12:06] <Ernz> m0u5e - Yea, I am running it now
[12:06] <saddeh> tapas: thanks man :)
[12:06] <ROnewbie> tapas: it's a linux driver for a RT2561/RT61 wireless card. I downloaded it from here: http://web.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html. I want to install it because my wi-fi card doesn't connect to my WLAN and I'm guessing that would be why ...
[12:06] <m0u5e> ernz: i should just go get the svn version then? :(
[12:06] <m0u5e> ernz: will it allow me to upgrade when they give the official next ver out?
[12:07] <tapas> saddeh: so if you typed mount /home/tapas/wc3<tab? it would not complete thus you know there's no file with such a name [it also doesn't complete if it ambigous, but a second hit on the tab would show the choices in this case]
[12:07] <Ernz> m0u5e - It's not an official release as I understand, but it works fine for me, and has done for a couple of days now. I am not really an expert. All my exaile expertise was gathered from the friendly folks at #exaile. They are very good.
[12:07] <saddeh> tapas: yeah ive just tested that when i had to mount another cd :)
[12:08] <jeffrey> when I do sudo apt-get update, I get the follow error:
[12:08] <jeffrey> GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:08] <tapas> ROnewbie: ok, untar it
[12:08] <jeffrey> something that will fix itself?
[12:08] <xlinux__> anyone know why a burned DVD wont play in ubuntu but it will in XP? Store bought DVDs work fine...
[12:08] <m0u5e> Ernz: ill check out #exaile thx :D
[12:08] <Ernz> mon^rch. I got a 300GB EXT, a 250GB EXT, 2x150GB INT and another 500GB INT on another machine ;)
[12:08] <ROnewbie> tapas: ? untar ?
[12:09] <Ernz> mon^rch - all full.
[12:09] <mon^rch> Ernz: media whore :P
[12:09] <Ernz> mon^rch - lol - Nail on the head there matey
[12:09] <xlinux__> The burned DVD wont even seem to mount, let alone play... XP plays it just fine...
[12:09] <tapas> ROnewbie: is it a tar.gz file or simply a .gz?
[12:10] <mon^rch> Ernz: lmao  yeah me too, me too
[12:10] <tapas> ROnewbie: if the latter it looks as if you downloaded the firmware
[12:10] <atlas95> someone could help me please?
[12:10] <tapas> ROnewbie:  if the former, run: tar xvzf filename.tar.gz
[12:11] <erUSUL> !anybody | atlas95
[12:11] <ubotu> atlas95: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:11] <tapas> ROnewbie: first run: tar tvzf filename.tar.gz
[12:11] <mon^rch> hmmmm are usb hd's powered by the usb port? or do you plug em in too (never had one)
[12:11] <tapas> to inspect its contents before untarring
[12:11] <whatevah_loop> I want to download the package that will let me play DVDs. I see three different files with similar names except for the endings, such as *.diff.gz, *.dsc, and *orig.tar.gz. What is the difference and can I install one or more of them with one of the graphical package managers?
[12:11] <ROnewbie> tapas: aaa ... to be honest I downloaded both, because I'm not sure which I should download. I tried to get some guidance in here, but everybody seems to stay away from wi-fi's ... so I'll just go with the tar.gz, even though I'm not sure it's even made for ubuntu, or other distros
[12:11] <atlas95> I have post my question at top
[12:11] <ROnewbie> tapas: ok, i'll try that
[12:11] <atlas95> but any answer yet ;(
[12:11] <Bluetooth> hi all
[12:11] <atlas95> so i reask ;p
[12:11] <foug> what's the command for uninstalling a program?
[12:11] <Bluetooth> trying to make ntfs-3g to work
[12:12] <atlas95> I have a ati card and fglrx
[12:12] <Bluetooth> have some issues
[12:12] <atlas95> and when I do a sudo update-initramfs -u
[12:12] <atlas95> I have this error : find: /usr/lib/directfb-/: Aucun fichier ou rpertoire de ce type
[12:12] <stefg> mon^rch: depends... 2,5" ones tend to draw their power over usb, 3,52 ususally need ext. power
[12:12] <mon^rch> Bluetooth: apt-get install ntfs-config
[12:12] <atlas95> find: /usr/lib/directfb-/: Could not find files or folder type (in english i think)
[12:12] <Bluetooth> my fstab here http://paste.org.ru/?9egnnt
[12:12] <atlas95> :(
[12:12] <defcon_> hey all
[12:12] <defcon_> where do I edit the startup services in ubuntu
[12:12] <BleSS> I'm using feisty and I'd install a package of gutsy, how?
[12:12] <Bluetooth> mon^rch it works
[12:12] <tapas> ROnewbie: ubuntu seems to have support for that card
[12:13] <Bluetooth> I just found some strange things
[12:13] <mon^rch> Bluetooth: oh, oops... nvm
[12:13] <xukun> hi
[12:13] <Bluetooth> icon for /dev/sda1 disappeared
[12:13] <tapas> ROnewbie: modinfo rt61
[12:13] <BleSS> defcon_: /etc/event.d/
[12:13] <leobloom> hallo!
[12:13] <hlverstoep> BleSS: do you have the package already on your harddrive?
[12:13] <Bluetooth> from Desktop and Places as well
[12:13] <tapas> ROnewbie: the interface name should be ra0
[12:13] <BleSS> hlverstoep: no
[12:13] <ROnewbie> tapas: wait, so modinfo first ? no untar ?
[12:13] <tapas> ROnewbie: type: iwconfig ra0
[12:13] <leobloom> can I become a member of a national ubuntu community even without being a citizen of that nation?
[12:14] <tapas> ROnewbie: i don't think you will have to manually install the driver
[12:14] <ROnewbie> tapas: me confused, which one first ?
[12:14] <foug> what's the command for uninstalling a program?
[12:14] <defcon_> BleSS, thankyou, is there a nice editor for that for gnome
[12:14] <ROnewbie> tapas: I was trying to go along the lines of this page:
[12:14] <hlverstoep> BleSS: I can't find a package named "gutsy" so maybe you should compile this program yourself?
[12:14] <tapas> ROnewbie: forget about the firmware and the tarball
[12:14] <ROnewbie> tapas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT61?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[12:14] <BleSS> hlverstoep: gutsy is the next release of Ubuntu
[12:15] <defcon_> when I try to load system log from gnome control center it opens then immediately closes
[12:15] <BleSS> I would intall a package of another release
[12:15] <defcon_> any idea why?
[12:15] <hlverstoep> BleSS: Ow, I'm sorry, why would like to do that?
[12:15] <tapas> ROnewbie: ok, one step after the other. first: try lsmod|grep ra61
[12:15] <ROnewbie> tapas: ok, can I send you a pastebin of modinfo and iwconfig /
[12:15] <tapas> onlylove: sure
[12:15] <tapas> ROnewbie: sure
[12:15] <hlverstoep> BleSS: you could all lines with "feisty" in your /etc/apt/sources.list in "gutsy"
[12:15] <ROnewbie> ! pastebin | ronewbie
[12:15] <hlverstoep> BleSS: then "apt-get update"
[12:15] <BleSS> hlverstoep: it's for a server and I need a newer version for nginx that of feisty
[12:16] <tapas> ROnewbie: but maybe i'm wrong and the info i have is outdaetd..
[12:16] <silent_> is gutsy  the next one?
[12:16] <silent_> gutsy ___ ?
[12:16] <hlverstoep> BleSS: apt-get install the package you need
[12:16] <anathematic> does ubuntu come with basic cd burning software?
[12:16] <tapas> anathematic: it comes with _great_ burning software ;)
[12:16] <hlverstoep> BleSS: and then change you sources.list back, you don't want all Gutsy packages I guess
[12:16] <tapas> anathematic: at least kubuntu does, not sure about ubuntu ;)
[12:16] <ompaul> silent_, not for discussion here, it is a dev version not released this is the "stable" channel (for values of stable)
[12:16] <mon^rch> anathematic: gnomebaker is nice... it's an add on
[12:17] <ompaul> !gutsy
[12:17] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+1
[12:17] <inflex> *sigh* I feel dirty guys (and girls)
[12:17] <aLeSD> hi all
[12:17] <sharadg> hi, i have a docking station with a LCD monitor with a resolution of 1680x1200, but when I undock my laptop screen is blank and I have no option but to power-cycle the laptop
[12:17] <anathematic> okies i'll get gnomebaker
[12:17] <anathematic> ty
[12:17] <inflex> After 12 years+ of Slackware... I've converted to Ubuntu
[12:17] <BleSS> hlverstoep: ok, thx
[12:17] <sharadg>  I have two xorg.conf  -one for the LCD and one for the laptop  andi wrote a script that probes /usr/sbin/ddcprobe to find the monitor and apply the correct xorg , but still the laptop screen remains blank
[12:17] <inflex> Is there a confessional around here somewhere?
[12:17] <ompaul> inflex, even patrick is going to come over ;-)
[12:17] <silent_> inflex, it had to happen some time
[12:17] <inflex> :-(
[12:17] <tapas> inflex: hehe i used slackware only as long as there was nothing better
[12:17] <mon^rch> lol inflex
[12:17] <inflex> tapas: ja, likewise... and finally Ubuntu has done it :\
[12:17] <tapas> inflex: that point in time was reached quite a few years ago hough ;)
[12:18] <silent_> I'm not a big fan of the ubuntu server though... I prefer plain debian servers
[12:18] <aLeSD> sharadg: nvidia ?
[12:18] <inflex> tapas: not for legacy systems that I've been maintaining
[12:18] <sharadg> no
[12:18] <foug> anyone? how do i uninstall stuff through terminal
[12:18] <inflex> but my personal HDD crapped out on my yesterday... and I switched over to Ubuntu 7.04
[12:18] <silent_> aptitude purge <pkg>
[12:18] <sharadg> intel 945
[12:18] <inflex> foug: apt-get remove foo
[12:18] <aLeSD> foug: man apt-get
[12:18] <inflex> oh, one trouble.... my Radeon 9250 still won't work in 'high speed'
[12:18] <foug> thanks both of you
[12:18] <inflex> so I'm getting rather lousy refresh
any ideas?
[12:19] <ROnewbie> tapas: here's the output of all those commands
[12:19] <ROnewbie> tapas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22851/
[12:19] <silent_> well, I got my back mouse button working in firefox, but xbindkeys isn't working at all, for either my kb or mouse
[12:19] <inflex> This is what  have in xorg.conf atm        Identifier  "ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] "
[12:19] <inflex>         Driver      "ati"
[12:19] <defcon_> help, for some reason my gnome log viewer closes as soon as I open it
[12:19] <silent_> it just doesnt do anything
[12:19] <tapas> ROnewbie: ok, it's called ra1 then ;)
[12:19] <aLeSD> sharadg: I had those problem with the proprietary driver ... no idea ... sorry... maybe the 3d ...
[12:19] <tapas> ROnewbie: that's your wireless driver
[12:19] <inflex> I tried installing flglx but it complained about not finding any suitable screens
[12:20] <inflex> (I run at 1920x1200 on a Dell 2407)
[12:20] <ROnewbie> tapas: that's what I thought. So I don't have to reinstall it, right /
[12:20] <ROnewbie> ?
[12:20] <tapas> ROnewbie: exactly
[12:20] <aLeSD> inflex: not use that driver please
[12:20] <sharadg> aLeSD, thanks
[12:20] <mon^rch> sigh... up @ 3:30 wtf is "up" with that?
[12:20] <silent_> inflex, jesus, that's almost 1080i
[12:20] <tapas> ROnewbie: try: iwlist ra1 scan
[12:20] <tapas> ROnewbie: does it pick up any networks?
[12:20] <mon^rch> !wtf | mon^rch
[12:20] <inflex> silent_: yeah, it's a nice screen
[12:20] <inflex> aLeSD: what should I be using ?
[12:21] <aLeSD> inflex: it's too early ... maybe amd will develop something that will work .. for now the driver works bad and very slow ...
[12:21] <ROnewbie> tapas: how about this link, though? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT61?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29 . / Yes it does, it picks all of them, it just shows zero signal strength and it won't connect
[12:21] <aLeSD> use ati
[12:21] <silent_> i havent slept
[12:21] <aLeSD> it's the opensource one .. it works well
[12:21] <silent_> its going to be a long days for me
[12:21] <inflex> aLeSD: damn, what I don't get though is that on Slackware it worked faster
[12:21] <hlverstoep> aLeSD: the opensource driver doesn't support 3D
[12:21] <inflex> aLeSD: though I -have- noticed I don't seem to have /prod/dri
[12:21] <ROnewbie> tapas: it asks for my wep key, but then it keeps connecting, and after 30 seconds a mouseover will say "no connection avaialable"
[12:21] <inflex> oh, I do now :\
[12:21] <inflex> hrmmm
[12:22] <tapas> ROnewbie: "mouseover"? you using some graphical tool to configure it?
[12:22] <mon^rch> happy hacking... bbl
[12:22] <hlverstoep> /info
[12:22] <tapas> ROnewbie: i use kubuntu, so i can't help with the gnome toos
[12:22] <aLeSD> inflex: 3d is too instable for now ... active it only when you have to show to a win user where linux is going  ;)
[12:22] <inflex> aLeSD: well, I don't use 3D personally
[12:22] <ROnewbie> tapas: no, I meant when I let my mouse pointer "rest" above the icon
[12:22] <silent_> or get an nvidia card
[12:22] <silent_> ;P
[12:22] <inflex> but I do demand good 2D performance for CAD/schematic work
[12:22] <tapas> ROnewbie: what icon?
[12:23] <hlverstoep> inflex, aLeSD: my fglrx driver works fine, 3D too...
[12:23] <aLeSD> inflex: really ati proprietary driver gives more problems that other stuff
[12:23] <ROnewbie> tapas:  network manager
[12:23] <tapas> ROnewbie: ah ok
[12:23] <tapas> ROnewbie: like i said, i don't use gnome
[12:23] <xukun> after I make a vpnc connection my route changes and then I dont have a internet connection
[12:23] <aLeSD> hlverstoep: you lucky
[12:23] <tapas> ROnewbie: but there are some packages containign some configuration tools for these cards
[12:23] <aLeSD> :)
[12:23] <tapas> ROnewbie: apt-cache search wireless
[12:23] <hlverstoep> :D
[12:23] <defcon_> Is there any way to reinstall gnome in ubuntu because I am having a serious problem, for some reason I cannot open gnome log viewer, i open it and it automatically closes... any ideas?
[12:23] <inflex> well, I can tell you now - it didn't work for me :\
[12:23] <xukun> very strange
[12:24] <CaptainMorgan> well, this piece of shit: http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/ was pretty much a HUGE waste of time
[12:24] <hlverstoep> inflex: what is your problem with the driver?
[12:24] <whatevah_loop> Which libdvd file should I download to be able to play DVDs on Ubuntu? There are 3 files here with different extensions: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/feisty/free/
[12:24] <inflex> hlverstoep: when I installed it - it setup Xorg.conf etc... and when I ran X, it crashed out saying "No suitable screens found"
[12:24] <orville> .deb ?
[12:24] <ROnewbie> tapas: got a whooole lot of output. Pastebin again ?
[12:24] <hlverstoep> inflex: is your card supported by the driver?
[12:25] <erUSUL> !dvd | whatevah_loop
[12:25] <ubotu> whatevah_loop: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:25] <SlimeyPete> whatevah_loop: I'd grab the original
[12:25] <Half-Left> Hello, I friend of mind just did a update in Feisty and now he's lost his Windows in the bootloader, any ideas why it did this?
[12:25] <inflex> hlverstoep: afaik, it was... Radeon 9250
[12:25] <hlverstoep> inflex: did you edit xorg.conf yourself? of did aticonfig?
[12:25] <Half-Left> mine*
[12:25] <inflex> aticonfig did
[12:25] <saddeh> how do i replace space in terminal?
[12:25] <saddeh> i mean its like % in internet explorer
[12:25] <tapas> ROnewbie: just searcgh the damn list for packages that seem to have something with the name of your driver in common :)
[12:25] <inflex> I ended up having to edit the xorg.conf manually in the end to get back the original setup
[12:25] <saddeh> like... space%here
[12:25] <SlimeyPete> hlverstoep: dunno why, but he can get it back by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst and then running "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" where /dev/sda is his first hard disk
[12:26] <tapas> ROnewbie: ah forget it.. i was wrong. it's only source packages
[12:26] <defcon_> heh
[12:26] <defcon_> Is there any way to reinstall gnome in ubuntu because I am having a serious problem, for some reason I cannot open gnome log viewer, i open it and it automatically closes... any ideas?
[12:26] <ROnewbie> tapas: well, for what it's worth, I already pasted it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22852/
[12:26] <defcon_> is it crashing?
[12:26] <hlverstoep> SlimeyPete: ???
[12:26] <defcon_> can I reinstall it?
[12:26] <PepperBob> xukun: isn't that the way it works?
[12:27] <ROnewbie> tapas: so what then ?
[12:27] <tapas> ROnewbie: i was thinking of the rt5000 package
[12:27] <tapas> ROnewbie: maybe try it
[12:27] <hlverstoep> inflex: I don't know what went wrong? You gave any parameters to aticonfig?
[12:27] <ROnewbie> tapas: what do you by "trying it" ? download it?
[12:27] <stefg> Half-Left: did he tinker manually with /boot/grub/menu.lst? Obviously the update-grub procedure didn#t find the windows-entry valid
[12:27] <inflex> hlverstoep: did the routine as detailed by the flglx site
[12:28] <SlimeyPete> hlverstoep: sorry, I meant Half-Left
[12:28] <Half-Left> stefg, Yes
[12:28] <defcon_> anyone have time for a quick question
[12:28] <defcon_> ive tried google
[12:28] <hlverstoep> inflex: "routine"? for me it was just  "sudo aticonfig --initial"
[12:28] <hlverstoep> SlimeyPete: ok...
[12:28] <inflex> hlverstoep: that's what I started at
[12:29] <inflex> okay, I'm going to try it again anyhow, -justincase-
[12:29] <inflex> bbl
[12:29] <hlverstoep> inflex: aticonfig itself didn't give any erros?
[12:29] <PepperBob> xukun: to have a vpn connection and connection to another network at the same time you probably want to research about split tunneling.
[12:30] <stefg> Half-Left: there are a couple of 'magic tokens' in that file. If you read it really, really careful you'll find out how it works (well commented).
[12:30] <CaptainMorgan> !sendmail
[12:30] <psst> defcon_: 2 minutes and counting
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sendmail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <CaptainMorgan> !wtf
[12:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:30] <fong_> is it possible to install using the live CD?
[12:31] <ROnewbie> tapas: ?
[12:31] <inflex> okay, how do I tell if I'm using the new driver?
[12:31] <fong_> i don't see an "install" icon on the desktop...
[12:31] <BleSS> how looking for an installed package? i.e. openssl
[12:31] <xukun> PepperBob, vpnc uses split tunneling or not?
[12:31] <jin> !nvidia
[12:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:31] <tapas> ROnewbie: how could you try it without downloading it?
[12:31] <tapas> ;)
[12:31] <fong_> !livecd
[12:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[12:31] <defcon_> psst, Is there any way to reinstall gnome in ubuntu because I am having a serious problem, for some reason I cannot open gnome log viewer, i open it and it automatically closes... any ideas?
[12:31] <PepperBob> xukun: no, it's not "default" afaik
[12:31] <fong_> i see
[12:32] <hlverstoep> inflex: by "the new driver" you mean?
[12:32] <inflex> hlverstoep: the 'faster' driver :)
[12:32] <locust> greetings, is anyone aware of a linux application similar to this one? http://www.soft32.com/download_202691.html
[12:32] <hlverstoep> BleSS: dpkg -l | grep "package"
[12:32] <psst> defcon_: I would find the name of the log viewer command and run it form the command line
[12:32] <hlverstoep> inflex: So, you're using it right know, but you want to test if 3D works?
[12:32] <ROnewbie> tapas: it's not in synaptic
[12:33] <defcon_> psst, ok
[12:33] <ROnewbie> tapas: and what is it, anyway ?
[12:33] <killerbunny> !ipod
[12:33] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[12:33] <fong_> what's the command to know the type of ubuntu being run?
[12:33] <jin> I can't load the nvidia driver. FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-386/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such f
[12:33] <fong_> !version
[12:33] <tapas> ROnewbie: i have no idea. i don't own such a card
[12:33] <PepperBob> fong_: not sure but uname -a might tell you
[12:33] <tapas> ROnewbie: i just found tehre's a package called rt2500 and the description says:
[12:33] <defcon_> psst,
[12:33] <defcon_> root@ion:~# /usr/bin/gnome-system-log
[12:33] <defcon_> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[12:33] <defcon_> root@ion:~#
[12:33] <tapas> " configuration tool for wireless RT2500 network cards"
[12:33] <defcon_> sorry about the paste
[12:33] <fong_> pepperbob, thanks
[12:34] <AL38> !rockbox
[12:34] <SubOne> My videos skip and stutter in firefox/mplayer. I know it's not the connection. Any hints on fixing this?
[12:34] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[12:34] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[12:34] <defcon_> wasnt too big
[12:34] <tapas> ROnewbie: and as your card is from that family
[12:34] <AL38> Interesting
[12:34] <tapas> ...
[12:34] <ompaul> AL38, it has its own channel :-)
[12:34] <Half-Left> stefg, So if you've edited the file it makes a new one for you?, why does it not back yours up?
[12:34] <ROnewbie> tapas: ??????????????? ok, now I'm completely lost. I looked for anything ralink in synaptic and all I get is 4 source packages; I don't know how to use source packages
[12:34] <hlverstoep> inflex: So, you're using it right know, but you want to test if 3D works?
[12:35] <tapas> ROnewbie: no, not source packages: type: apt-get install rt2500
[12:35] <inflex> hlverstoep: okay - yes.
[12:35] <tapas> ROnewbie: i have no idea why it doesn;t show in your graphical apt-frontend..
[12:35] <PepperBob> defcon_: do you have such problems with other applications too?
[12:35] <hlverstoep> inflex: fgl_glxgears
[12:35] <fong_> !livecd
[12:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[12:35] <fong_> :(
[12:35] <hlverstoep> inflex: run in terminal;)
[12:35] <fong_> i have the breezy badger live cd
[12:35] <defcon_> PepperBob, sometimes
[12:36] <psst> defcon_: ouch!  that's a bug for sure.  google has this to say: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-414064.html
[12:36] <inflex> hmmmm..... musnt be using it
[12:36] <defcon_> thnx psst
[12:36] <PepperBob> defcon_: this is just a guess, but in some cases this is due to RAM problems. have you run memcheck?
[12:36] <stefg> Half-Left:AFAIK  update-grub doesn't create a new file, but automatically inserts and deletes entries in the file, according to the tags around an entry. So the win-entry was misplaced and got removed.
[12:36] <hlverstoep> inflex: what does it say?
[12:36] <ROnewbie> tapas: ok, did that. should I restart or something ?
[12:36] <defcon_> also im having problems with my internet in ubuntu, I keep getting super slow connections, when I go into vista its fine
[12:37] <inflex> Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
[12:37] <inflex> X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[12:37] <tapas> ROnewbie: no
[12:37] <tapas> ROnewbie: try to run the program
[12:37] <defcon_> PepperBob, no I havnt run memcheck
[12:37] <AL38> Anyway, the reason I'm here is to ask: Any ideas on how to get the Ubuntu splash screen working with a dual-monitor Nvidia display? I assume that the fact it's a dual monitor X Screen stopped it from displaying correctly as the Live CD's splash screen worked okay
[12:37] <boubbin> any tutos how to starts screen irssi when my pc starts ?
[12:37] <defcon_> bash: memcheck: command not found
[12:37] <AL38> This is ubuntu Feisty, should've specified
[12:37] <Half-Left> stefg, ok thanks
[12:37] <tapas> ROnewbie: run dpkg -L rt2500 to see what programs the package installed
[12:37] <hlverstoep> inflex: you don't see a nice 3d cube?
[12:37] <stefg> Half-Left: but no big deal... it's just the win-line contains only 'chainloader +1'
[12:37] <inflex> hlverstoep: I think it's still using the old X setup
[12:37] <PepperBob> defcon_: i suggest you do. it's one of your boot option in the grub menu
[12:37] <AL38> I checked the GRUB settings and splash is one of the options
[12:37] <inflex> hlverstoep: (II) ATI: ATI driver (version 6.6.3) for chipsets: ati, ativga
[12:37] <inflex> brb - restarting X
[12:38] <Half-Left> stefg, Easy enough to fix then
[12:38] <hlverstoep> inflex: fglrxinfo
[12:38] <defcon_> PepperBob, ok thankyou, also, for some reason my grub menu isnt booting to hd0,0 its booting to hd1
[12:38] <ROnewbie> tapas: ok
[12:38] <defcon_> so I have to manually edit it each time, how do I save it
[12:38] <hlverstoep> inflex: does it say that you're running the ati driver?
[12:38] <ROnewbie> tapas: can I paste the output in private ?
[12:38] <PepperBob> defcon_: well just wait an let it popup when booting. then there is one entry called "memtest86" or similiar
[12:38] <defcon_> press e then enter the right value then b to boot etc
[12:38] <tapas> ROnewbie: sure
[12:39] <PepperBob> defcon_: not sure if there's a script, but you could edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:39] <saddeh> how do i overwrite a file which i dont have rights to overwrite? :)
[12:39] <VoX> saddeh: uh, you dont
[12:40] <saddeh> but how then? i need to add a line to my hosts file
[12:40] <PepperBob> saddeh: that's the sense of permissions.
[12:40] <davef_> saddeh: with sudo.
[12:40] <saddeh> and how will it look like?
[12:40] <saddeh> davef_:
[12:40] <VoX> saddeh: sudo vi <file>
[12:40] <saddeh> vi?
[12:40] <VoX> or sudo joe <file>
[12:41] <davef_> saddeh: 'sudo echo blahblahblah >>/etc/hosts" if you just need to add a line.
[12:41] <VoX> or which ever editor you wish to use
[12:41] <defcon_> PepperBob, thankyou bro
[12:41] <davef_> saddeh: 'sudo gedit /etc/hosts' to edit
[12:41] <saddeh> joe?
[12:41] <saddeh> thanks VoX and davef_ willtry smth
[12:41] <hlverstoep> inflex: does it say that you're running the ati driver?
[12:41] <PepperBob> defcon_: np.
[12:42] <saddeh> yeah it worked, thanks guys
[12:43] <davef_> Anyone have any ideas why a machine can only get the first several packets when accessing the net?
[12:43] <inflex> hlverstoep: looks like I just don't have a compatible card
[12:44] <hlverstoep> inflex: then your only option is to use the opensource driver
[12:44] <stefg> davef_: wired or wlan?
[12:44] <m0u5e> anyone know a nice ubuntu guide for compiling?
[12:44] <hlverstoep> inflex: I've never used it so you should help yourself, or find anyone else...
[12:44] <stefg> !build | m0u5e
[12:44] <ubotu> m0u5e: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:45] <davef_> stefg: wired.  New Ubuntu install. Worked fine when I installed it here, but when my friend took it back to his net, it only gets a few packets.  The windows boxes still work fine.
[12:46] <saddeh> any way to open self-extracting .exe archives? wine wont do..
[12:46] <stefg> davef_: the ususal suspects are avahi and network-manager. if it's not a roaming machine and you don't need avahi i'd try to uninstall these first and see if that helps
[12:46] <m0u5e> stefg: thx thx thx!
[12:46] <davef_> stefg: Thanks, I'll let him know.
[12:47] <PepperBob> saddeh: that's a proprietary winzip functionality
[12:47] <saddeh> PepperBob: k
[12:47] <newtie> i am having a problem playing dvd on totem.it plays the dvd for 2-3 minutes and then pause automatically
[12:48] <PepperBob> saddeh: just a guess: won't winzip run on wine?
[12:48] <stefg> newtie: all DVDs or just /that/ special one?
[12:48] <saddeh> PepperBob:  its .exe archive
[12:48] <saddeh> PepperBob: in windows u would just run it, set a path and it would self extract
[12:49] <ncd_> wow
[12:49] <gnomefreak> saddeh: wine would have to be used in liinux
[12:49] <ncd_> something is seriously busted
[12:49] <bz0b> anyone here got a new dell with ubuntu yet?
[12:49] <newtie> stefg: nothing special just play for five seconds on totem and then pause, (ubuntu 7.04)
[12:49] <ncd_> in my whole god knows how many year of dabling with linux this distro is up and down more times then a hoars draws
[12:49] <gnomefreak> bz0b: please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:49] <stefg> newtie: did you try more than one DVD?
[12:49] <hans> hi
[12:49] <bz0b> how would that be offtopic they sell dells with ubuntu
[12:50] <newtie> stefg: yep happen's with everysingle one
[12:50] <PepperBob> saddeh: winzip will open those archives anyways
[12:50] <saddeh> gnomefreak: i do :)
[12:50] <gnomefreak> bz0b: its not support related
[12:50] <hans> is it possible to get accelerated 3D graphics with a radeon 9200 pro under linux (or Ubuntu specifically)
[12:50] <saddeh> PepperBob: gotta try then, thanks
[12:50] <stefg> !dvd | newtie
[12:50] <hans> ?
[12:50] <ubotu> newtie: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:50] <bz0b> well i was gonna ask support questions about it
[12:50] <acuster> hey all,
[12:50] <anathematic> :< i don't want to download a million little packages for gnomemaker, where can i download the whole thing in one chunk? (i don't have net to my linux box)
[12:50] <acuster> openoffice is crashing when I work with versioning
[12:50] <hans> the device manager says "RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] ", right now I am running Xorg with the vesa driver but things are sluggish
[12:50] <acuster> is there a way to install something other than the default (v2.2) open office?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> acuster: build it yourself
[12:51] <hans> I have also checked the restricted drivers application but it says there are none for my system
[12:51] <aLeSD> hans: hard work with ati
[12:51] <hans> aLeSD, yeah I was afraid of that
[12:51] <newtie> ubotu: Thnxs i will try !
[12:51] <acuster> gnomefreak, no way, I'm not using gentoo for a reason
[12:52] <aLeSD> hans: you can , of course, but it will be an hard work, your device is old and you have to install specific proprietary drivers
[12:52] <gnomefreak> acuster: thats gonna be the only way for the most part
[12:52] <hans> ah
[12:52] <acuster> how can I find out if there are other versions parrallel installable?
[12:52] <hans> ahh, well I don't mind a challange
[12:52] <hans> I will google around a bit
[12:52] <bz0b> ya i have an ati x1600 pro how do i configure the drivers because whenever i use what the ubuntuguide recommends me to do it doesnt work well
[12:52] <aLeSD> hans: wait for AMD upgrade ... it will do somethin g... I hope
[12:52] <stefg> acuster: you can still use the tar.gz packages from the openoffice.org site and install that to /opt (after you uninstalled ubuntus OOo with synaptic). But i would not recommend that
[12:52] <gnomefreak> acuster: unless you can find a .deb(s) for whatever version you want but you will have to satisfy depends on it and that will be a pain
[12:53] <hans> AMD upgrade?
[12:53] <aLeSD> bz0b: take a look to the gentoo ati wiki
[12:53] <gnomefreak> !ati
[12:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:53] <bz0b> u have link?
[12:53] <acuster> stefg, gnomefreak thanks both
[12:53] <hans> thanks gnomefreak
[12:53] <dejx> hello i just added users with adduser, and it works on nis master, but how do i force that same user/pass will work in nis clients?
[12:53] <aLeSD> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ATI_Drivers
[12:54] <wols> hans: yes it's possible the "ati" driver, which is Free. fglrx will not work
[12:54] <Angelus> hi there, was wondering if someone could help. People have such nice toolbars at the bottom with curved edges. How do you achieve that affect?
[12:54] <aphrodite1> Hi, newbie here having a major problem
[12:54] <adaptr> define major
[12:54] <hans> wols, oh, is this driver installed with xorg bydefault?
[12:54] <aLeSD> bz0b: only to understand the possibily problem ... after use ubuntu instruments
[12:54] <wols> hans: yes
[12:54] <aphrodite1> Can't see any fonts only rectangles
[12:54] <itkui_> hello everyone!
[12:54] <hans> cool, I will try it thanks
[12:54] <gnomefreak> aphrodite1: restart
[12:54] <aphrodite1> did that
[12:55] <AL89> hello guys. is there any software for cutting videos you'd recommend?
[12:55] <stefg> !gnome-dock | Angelus
[12:55] <ubotu> Angelus: gnome-dock is a MacOS X -like dock for the gnome desktop, see www.gnome-dock.org
[12:55] <aphrodite1> problem started when i became adventurous
[12:55] <saddeh> PepperBob: nope, winzip didnt open that file:)
[12:55] <aphrodite1> and tried upgrading to kde
[12:55] <gnomefreak> aphrodite1: make sure everything is installed try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" without the "
[12:55] <wols> aphrodite1: your fonts are not installed (properly)
[12:55] <roy_> hey all
[12:55] <PepperBob> saddeh: mh.. i thought it would.. sry - long time no work w/ winzip..
[12:56] <gnomefreak> PepperBob: if you are looking for win support try ##windows
[12:56] <aphrodite1> gnomefreak, posted my prob on forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2729112#post2729112
[12:56] <saddeh> PepperBob: np ;)
[12:56] <dejx> hello i just added users with adduser, and it works on nis master, but how do i force that same user/pass will work in nis clients?
[12:56] <gnomefreak> aphrodite1: i dont have X atm
[12:56] <PepperBob> gnomefreak: hugh?
[12:56] <roy_> im new to ubuntu and i need 1 on 1 help with installing drivers for gforce fx 5500 card
[12:56] <wols> 1nvidia | roy_
[12:56] <stefg> AL89: look at ubuntustudio... for just splitting avis and stuff avidemux is decent
[12:57] <wols> !nvidia | roy_
[12:57] <ubotu> roy_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:57] <roy_> can anyone please help me?
[12:57] <PepperBob> gnomefreak: uh, no not using windows ... thanx anyways :)
[12:57] <gnomefreak> PepperBob: you have been talking about winzip, winzip is not a ubuntu package it is windows. we don not support windows in here
[12:57] <roy_> i've been having problems with it
[12:57] <adaptr> gnomefreak don't get all anal on us now
[12:57] <cox377> ive got a sneeky feelin that i've got 2 azureus running, i tries installing a headless one but gave up so installed one via apt-get, how would i check if both are running?
[12:57] <PepperBob> gnomefreak: but we do wine, don't we?
[12:57] <AL89> thanks stefg
[12:57] <Tripod> Can anyone give us a quick hand on compiling Etswitch, having problems
[12:57] <gnomefreak> PepperBob: than move it to #ubuntu-offtopic as windows is not on topic for this channel
[12:57] <wols> PepperBob: still don't do windows application support
[12:58] <PepperBob> gnomefreak: none ever talked about windows... ? don't see that problem actually..
[12:58] <gnomefreak> adaptr: be real careful on how you say things
[12:58] <wols> cox377: ps aux |less
[12:58] <egat> hello! im also a newbie, having some trouble with my Ubuntu install. do i need to create a new partition to install it on?
[12:58] <zniavre> hello
[12:58] <Tripod> if anyone is willing to help please PM me
[12:58] <cox377> wols: is that the command?
[12:58] <Angelus> Thanks Stef G for that but it's very confusing, I don't understand what to do?
[12:58] <aphrodite1> ok, i tried :Install (K)ubuntu Breezy Step 2: Upgrade to Kubuntu" and now i get error saying pango will give ugly-fonts or something
[12:58] <gnomefreak> PepperBob: if you want to talk about support or anything else with win apps dont do it in here
[12:58] <roy_> i installed nvidia glx and when i restart ubuntu it freez
[12:58] <zniavre> this morning i made kernel update with feisty now my usb ext hdd freeze my feisty when i switch it ON
[12:59] <wols> roy_: kernel dirver is loaded?
[12:59] <jin> why are the buttons in firefox so ugly?
[12:59] <roy_> if i return to my xorg.conf backup then everything is o.k again
[12:59] <PepperBob> gnomefreak: my advice was pointing to *WINE* - which is not a windows application is it?  so could we burry this now?
[12:59] <jin> I mean the form buttons on webpages
[12:59] <adaptr> gnomefreak okay, daddy
[12:59] <saddeh> PepperBob: thanks for ur attempt to help :P
[12:59] <saddeh> when i installed ubuntu i did 2 partitions, root (25gb) and onee another partition (not swap, nor i cant remember what it was) with 135gb, which doesnt show up now and i cant use it... any way tofix that?
[01:00] <roy_> wols: yes
[01:00] <Tripod> you have to partition the free space.
[01:00] <saddeh> Tripod: with which prog?
[01:00] <wols> saddeh: if it doesn't show up with df,  cat /proc/partitions and then add teh 135GB partition to fstab (if ti's already formatted)
[01:00] <Tripod> might have to do a new install :(
[01:01] <aphrodite1> gnomefreak, Terminal, firefox, etc., work fine, but everything else is rectangles. sys: 1: PangoWarning: No builtin or dynamically loaded modules were found. This probably means that there was an error in the creation of: '/etc/pango/pango.modules'. You should create this file by running pango-querymodules.
[01:01] <saddeh> wols: alright, now slowly :D what is df?
[01:01] <wols> Tripod: he already said he partitioned. and no matter what, don#t need to reinstall
[01:01] <stefg> Angelus: this gnome-dock isn#t a finished program, but some alpha-stuff. You would have to compile it from source. Although configuration is somewhat difficult. I don't think you need it that desperatly, do you?
[01:01] <wols> saddeh: man df
[01:01] <gnomefreak> aphrodite1: did you run that command?
[01:01] <aphrodite1> gnomefreak: how do I run that command?
[01:01] <saddeh> wols: kay... and /proc/partitions is empty
[01:01] <Tripod> I am compiling Etswitch on my Ubuntu 7.04 but it gets downt o X11 and says paths arnt there, and is it isntalled..
[01:01] <roy_> can anyone please help me one on one? i'll be able to explain the problem better
[01:02] <gnomefreak> aphrodite1: try pango-querymodules
[01:02] <wols> saddeh: if it's empty you can't run linux cause: you don't have any partitions to run from. so please rethink that statement
[01:02] <aphrodite1> gnomefreak: thanks i'll just try
[01:02] <wols> Tripod: you need xlibs dev packages
[01:02] <JohnStax> q: I just updated my ubuntu.. new kernel a believe.. and now my trashcan is crashing.. i see a very small window with no buttons on it.. and when i mess with the trashcan.. both disappear (crash)
[01:02] <saddeh> wols:  :)))) lol, but... ehm thats the file which opened with text editor, isnt it? and its blank sheet
[01:02] <Tripod> wols: where may i find those
[01:03] <gnomefreak> aphrodite1: if not try apt-cache search libpango and install one of them (cant think of the exact name of package off hand.
[01:03] <wols> saddeh: cat /proc/partitions
[01:03] <anathematic> how do i check how much i've set my main ubuntu partition for? =\
[01:03] <wols> Tripod: in your package manager of choice
[01:03] <wols> anathematic: df
[01:03] <kritzstapf> anathematic: df -h
[01:03] <kritzstapf> wols: :)
[01:03] <aphrodite1> gnomefreak: running pango-querymodules says command not found
[01:03] <anathematic> df -h
[01:03] <anathematic> opps
[01:03] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmmmm
[01:03] <anathematic> wrong keyboard LOL
[01:03] <Tripod> wols: what would the names be just xlibs? i nub
[01:03] <saddeh> wols: it wrote me smth
[01:03] <ydo> saddeh: is /proc mounted?
[01:04] <stefg> http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html
[01:04] <jin> to any one who like to have prettier firefox controls in webpage forms, see http://osnovice.blogspot.com/2007/05/firefox-controls-are-ugly.html
[01:04] <wols> ydo: he'd have bigger problems if is isn't...
[01:04] <johny> I'm using feisty but can't find a package i need. I know it's in the debian repositories, what if I add them, is it secure?
[01:04] <Skiff> guys I just did "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade" and apt manager before was saying there was 40+ updates now it says there is 7 still left wtf? will I always have to use that apt manager notifier in the corner?
[01:04] <boghog> wols, thanks it seems to be sort of working now (using "ati" as Driver in xorg.conf), it's *very* slow, but seems to work\
[01:04] <saddeh> ydo: ? :)
[01:04] <gnomefreak> aphrodite1: give me a few minutes to finish what i am doing and when i return i will help you more. right now i have 4 ttys open and its geting hard to keep track of everthing im running
[01:04] <wols> boghog: check if dri is enabled and stuff like that
[01:04] <aphrodite1> gnomefreak: trouble is outside of terminal and firefox i can't see what i'm doing. can i run synaptix in term to get rid of pango?
[01:05] <Tripod> Thank you wols, i hope it takes.
[01:05] <boghog> wols, ah yes it seems to be disabled
[01:05] <wols> aphrodite1: you run aptitude in a console
[01:05] <ydo> saddeh: nm, listen to wols
[01:05] <aphrodite1> thanks wols will try
[01:05] <kritzstapf> Skiff: maybe those updates require a dist-upgrade
[01:05] <gnomefreak> aphrodite1: synaptic yes might work but you have to know the package. you shouldnt need to remove pango as iirc it is needed for alot of apps
[01:05] <Skiff> kritzstapf, ok so how would I do them using apt-get command?
[01:05] <robdeman> folks is there a sudo-gnome utility?
[01:05] <wols> gnome will be very unhappy without pango. so you cannot uninstall it
[01:06] <robdeman> for starting Gnome apps with Roo tpermissions?
[01:06] <wols> robdeman: gksudo
[01:06] <kritzstapf> Skiff: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:06] <Skiff> kritzstapf, thanks
[01:06] <saddeh> wols: so after i made df it got me some kind of info, whats next? :D
[01:06] <gnomefreak> aphrodite1: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall libpango.... whatever the package name is
[01:06] <robdeman> sweet
[01:06] <saddeh> wols: i mean... how do i partition my free space?
[01:06] <Skiff> kritzstapf, I think its working :)
[01:06] <kritzstapf> Skiff: :)
[01:06] <robdeman> got system-config-lvm finally working under Feisty
[01:07] <gnomefreak> ok brb lets see if this build works
[01:07] <wols> saddeh: use gparted
[01:07] <aphrodite1> thanks gnomefreak
[01:07] <saddeh> wols: k will install it now
[01:07] <wols> saddeh: and you said you partitioned it already. so is that 135GB partition showing in /proc/partitions or not?
[01:07] <Skiff> kritzstapf, would it be correct to write:" apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[01:07] <saddeh> wols: nope. i thought i partioned it when i installed linux
[01:08] <saddeh> wols: seems that i had only formatted it
[01:08] <wols> you cannot format before you partition...
[01:08] <kritzstapf> Skiff: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade would be enough
[01:08] <wols> first you partition a disk, then you format
[01:09] <saddeh> wols: then i did partition it. nvm. ive run gparted and i have 2 partitions
[01:09] <Skiff> kritzstapf, so I should always use dist-upgrade and it will preclude all upgrade command would get me correct?
[01:09] <saddeh> wols: one is "/" and another is "/ush" which is for an unknown reason to me is particulary used (4gb)
[01:09] <egat> hey, im having some trouble with install. do i need to create a new partition to install 7.04 on?
[01:09] <kritzstapf> Skiff: in most cases youll only need a normal upgrade
[01:09] <wols> saddeh: so why isn't it showing in /proc/partitions? also what is the output of df ?
[01:09] <boghog> wols, got it working, thanks for the help! <3
[01:09] <Skiff> kritzstapf, thanks
[01:10] <kritzstapf> Skiff: i think only the kernel-updates and other stuff need a dist-upgrade
[01:10] <kritzstapf> Skiff: your 7 packages are linux-* arent they?
[01:10] <saddeh> wols: ah wait, it is showing in /proc/partitions
[01:10] <Skiff> kritzstapf, so why not do it all the time just to be safe if it precludes all the stuff anyway
[01:10] <Skiff> kritzstapf, yes
[01:11] <kritzstapf> Skiff: you can do it all the time, but its always better to know when youre installing very basic updates like a new kernel
[01:11] <Skiff> kritzstapf, how do you usually do upgrades ?
[01:11] <stefg> egat: the installer actually triesto guide you through that. Do you have empty, unpartitioned space on your drive yet?
[01:11] <Skiff> kritzstapf, gotcha
[01:11] <egat> stefg: no, i dont. im going into this fairly blind, so my apologies if i seem a bit daft
[01:12] <kritzstapf> Skiff: i use the icon in my tray that pings me for updates in most cases ;)
[01:12] <stefg> egat: so what situation are you in? Running the Live CD on a machine which one big fullsize win-partition on it?
[01:13] <saddeh> wols: ah well found it, tho its unusualy to me that it is in /usr folder :)
[01:13] <aphrodite1> wols, gnomefreak: trying to update gnome thru aptitide - fingers firmly crossed!!!
[01:13] <Skiff> kritzstapf, hehe good idea ;) just wanted to know command line as well, thank you :)
[01:13] <kritzstapf> Skiff: youre welcome
[01:13] <saddeh> wols: unusual*.. thanks for ur time and help
[01:13] <aphrodite1> thanks for your help
[01:13] <roy_> my problem is this: im using ubuntu 7.04. my graphic card is nvidia fx 5500. i had the same problem with ubuntu 6.10. when i install nvidia glx, after restart ubuntu load itself and freez just befor finishing loading. if i want my ubuntu back all i do is go to safe mode, then i load the backup of my original xorg.conf and i have ubuntu back. another problem related to this is that my mouse pointer goes crazy and i lose control of it for 10
[01:13] <roy_> times a day. i tried alot of stuff but till now nothing seems to help, you think you can help? please send me a privet massage.
[01:14] <egat> stefg: im trying to install to a single win-partition on an older laptop (still a p4 though). i burnt the iso from the site to cd, booted to it and chose the install option
[01:14] <kritzstapf> roy_: i'd use the binary drivers from nvidia.com
[01:14] <gnomefreak> roy_: on feisty
[01:15] <gnomefreak> kritzstapf: please dont suggest that as it can make upgrading packages give errors
[01:15] <stefg> roy_: please read http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html
[01:15] <egat> stefg: i got an error re: gnome preferences but i let it continue, it eventually just sits on a blank desktop.
[01:15] <kritzstapf> gnomefreak: hum..
[01:15] <gnomefreak> kritzstapf: installing the drivers from nvidia is not supported and can bring in other issues
[01:16] <stefg> egat: so ubuntu is installed, but the install didn't work right, or are you in the process of installing, and it the install hangs?
[01:16] <gnomefreak> if hes on feisty package nvidia-glx-new should help him
[01:16] <roy_> please write me again what to read (my irc got closed)
[01:16] <kritzstapf> okay
[01:16] <roy_> and thank you so much for the help
[01:16] <l3niwi3c> hi
[01:16] <gnomefreak> roy_: on feisty?
[01:16] <l3niwi3c> jest kto z polski?
[01:17] <roy_> gnomefreak: yes
[01:17] <stefg> roy_: please read http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html
[01:17] <kritzstapf> gnomefreak: i'm using the nvidia.com-drivers atm, would you recommend to switch to nvidia-glx-new?
[01:17] <gnomefreak> roy_: try installing nvidia-glx-new
[01:17] <stefg> roy_: it's quick and will help you get a better response
[01:17] <gnomefreak> kritzstapf: if your card is supported by -new
[01:17] <egat> stefg: the install hangs. it ran for about an hour the first  time before i accidently knocked out the power to the laptop(dead/dying battery). i started it again, but still got the gnome preferences error, let it run for about 2 hours when it died
[01:18] <aphrodite1> ????
[01:18] <nexusStone> hi all.
[01:18] <roy_> gnomefreak: k i will, thank you
[01:18] <stefg> egat: hmmm... so ubiquity (the graphical installer) apparently doesn't work. is this a dual boot machine or will ubuntu be the only OS on it?
[01:19] <egat> stefg: single boot
[01:19] <nexusStone> I have a problem with sysv-rc-conf, can I ask here?
[01:19] <DudeManJer> Hello I have two games under scummvm and they both froze my PCs - any ideas how to repair the problems?
[01:20] <kritzstapf> DudeManJer: any error messages when you run scummvm from a console?
[01:20] <roy_> gnomefreak: should i remove the old nvidia glx fierst?
[01:20] <gnomefreak> roy_: no shouldnt have to
[01:20] <DudeManJer> Nope kristzstapf
[01:20] <gnomefreak> roy_: they should conflict
[01:20] <roy_> gnomefreak: k
[01:21] <boghog> wow I'm really amazed
[01:21] <stefg> egat: very good. 1.) check if the CD is good, it's got a selftest option at boot. 2.) use the Alternate CD to install.
[01:21] <stefg> !alternat | egat
[01:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alternat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:21] <boghog> if I can't play some video in totem I am presented with plugins to install to play them
[01:21] <stefg> !alternate | egat
[01:21] <boghog> that's really neat
[01:21] <ubotu> egat: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[01:21] <roy_> there is glx new and glx new dev. wich one?
[01:21] <nexusStone> see... I have a .sh file stored in /usr/local/sbin/ and whenever my init file referenced this file, my sysv-rc-conf will hang when I start the service with a "+" sign in the GUI.
[01:21] <Skiff> hey guys I just loaded fluxbox it was fine, but then when in the menu I selected MetalCity as a manager (there were two chocie fluxbox and metalcity) all I see is bluish background thats left of fluxbox and eventhough I can move mouse there is nothing to click or nothing is happening, what to do (besides restarting) ?
[01:22] <roy_> gnomefreak: there is glx new and glx new dev. wich one?
[01:22] <gnomefreak> roy_: glx-new
[01:22] <jburd> Apologies for not being able to respond earlier.  We lost power.   So, I was asking why the beagle daemon does not start on Ubuntu 7.04.
[01:22] <shoot^> guys i think i just did the most stupid thing i've ever done using a computer and did a bad rm -r destroying the contents of an ntfs hard disk (not primary but all my valuable data!) ...i have backups but not fully up to date... immediately unmounted the drive, and stopped all applications that were writing to it. what can i use to recover?
[01:23] <egat> thank you, i will try the self test option & report back.
[01:23] <skrew> hi
[01:24] <CheshireViking> !hi | skrew
[01:24] <ubotu> skrew: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:26] <egat> just while i think of it, will an ntfs partition suffice?
[01:26] <skrew> how to stop ubuntu to write in my /etc/resolv.conf with a dhcp interface ?
[01:27] <nexusStone> cya
[01:27] <skrew> on fedora i use peerdns=no but with ubuntu ... ?
[01:27] <tri3axe> guys, where can i find a good tutorial about the linux file system.. i mean what the diffrent folders in root are used for..like /bin /var /lib and so on.. just i get a grip on what they contain and so on
[01:27] <stefg> !info photorec
[01:27] <ubotu> Package photorec does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:28] <nexusStone> hi all.
[01:28] <Alarifes> try with: http://web.usc.es/~elusive/linux.html
[01:28] <Seveas> !fhs
[01:28] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[01:28] <Seveas> tri3axe, --^
[01:28] <stefg> shoot^: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=448817
[01:29] <davef_> skrew: try 'man dhclient.conf' - you can edit what it will do.
[01:30] <skrew> davef_, : ok thx i look
[01:30] <jonaskoelker> .. I have a question:  I want to run a particular command (xmodmap -e 'pointer = 3 2 1') every time I plug my trackball into my laptop.  How do I do that?
[01:30] <baudthief> anyone experience severe video tearing with nvidia cards? It's not just video, even when I move windows sideways - running feisty, glx drivers
[01:30] <baudthief> vsync is enabled
[01:31] <jonaskoelker> I figured that's hotplug, but neither locate nor apt-file search for hotplug gives anything that looks useful
[01:31] <The_Belgain> i've got a vmware question (i tried the vmware IRC channel but got no answer): how should i set up a VMware server guest to be able to route to the host directly (i.e. not going through an external physical interface) as well as being able to access external network devices?
[01:32] <The_Belgain> i.e. how should i set up a win2k guest VM to be able to ping the vmware virtual interface on the host machine? i'm using bridged networking at the moment by the way
[01:32] <jonaskoelker> and googling for "linux hardware plugging events" gives me the event list for $P LUG
[01:32] <egat> sorry, me again. before i go to test the cd, ive just re formatted the hdd into 2 partitions. should i make the second one 'extended'? will ubuntu recognise it? or should i make it (along with the first partition) 'primary'? i know this confused DOS, just thought id ask before stuffing up
[01:32] <jonaskoelker> egat: will you be running windows too?
[01:33] <egat> jonaskoelker: no, just ubuntu
[01:33] <egat> jonaskoelker: for now, anyway
[01:33] <jonaskoelker> egat: then it's safe to make them both primary
[01:33] <egat> jonaskoelker: awesome, thanks
[01:33] <jonaskoelker> egat: I don't remember how well windows $NT handles it
[01:33] <jonaskoelker> egat: you're welcome
[01:33] <stefg> egat: *if* the installer works on your machine it's best to present an empty unpartitioned disk to him,
[01:34] <jonaskoelker> anyone knows about hotplug?
[01:34] <egat> stefg: thanks :)
[01:34] <jburd> egat, don't partition it using DOS.   Obrigado.
[01:35] <andre> percisava ke me ajudassem no amsn
[01:35] <luutac> hi
[01:35] <jonaskoelker> hello, luutac
[01:36] <jin> where does firefox put the bookmarks file on ubuntu edgy?
[01:36] <und3ad> ubuntu uses iptables? if i run iptables all ports are open but the ports are not open
[01:36] <luutac> cac
[01:36] <gnomefreak> jin: ~/.mozilla
[01:36] <stefg> !firewall | und3ad
[01:36] <ubotu> und3ad: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:36] <gnomefreak> jin: iirc there is a firefox folder in there
[01:36] <jin> thx :)
[01:37] <jonaskoelker> jin: ~/.mozilla/firefox/$PROFILE/bookmarks.html
[01:37] <kippi> hey
[01:37] <andre_> alguem em portugues
[01:37] <jonaskoelker> !pt | andre_
[01:37] <ubotu> andre_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[01:37] <IdleOne> !pt | andre
[01:37] <ubotu> andre: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[01:38] <kippi> I have a remote freebsd box that I would like to change to Untuntu, but is there away I can do it remotely?
[01:38] <IdleOne> !install > kippi
[01:38] <andre_> #unbunt-pt
[01:38] <The_Belgain> so, no vmware people here then?
[01:38] <robdeman> hello all... my dmesg says '**WARNING** I2C adapter driver [NVIDIA i2c adapter 2 at 0:05.0]  forgot to specify physical device; fix it!' --> what does it mean?
[01:38] <wols> andre_: /join #ubuntu-pt
[01:39] <kippi> !automate > kippi
[01:39] <stefg> robdeman: that means you have to pay one more kernel developer for ubuntu if you don#t want to see the message, it's a nag :-)
[01:40] <robdeman> stefg: ehrm ok?
[01:41] <egat> stefg: when i selected the cd check option, it flashed up a splash screen which i *think* said 'loading kernel' then hit a black screen and says 'crc error --system halted'
[01:42] <stefg> egat: so the CD is a coaster
[01:42] <egat> stefg: looks like it
[01:42] <jay_1> i have added a program to my session startup options on feisty yet when i log out and log back in to system the item is no longer there anyone know how to fix
[01:43] <fong_> what's the A-A for ubuntu?
[01:43] <WeeJeWel> What the heck does this mean? http://my.opera.com/subjam/blog/show.dml/473107 (see my comment over there)
[01:43] <fong_> like B... breezy badger
[01:44] <jonaskoelker> fong_: Angry Aq
[01:44] <WeeJeWel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=456128
[01:45] <egat> stefg: thanks for your help. i'll reburn it and try again. you dont happen to know the iso files md5 sum do you? or have a link to a page that would?
[01:45] <fong_> jonaskoelker, what about C?
[01:45] <Ast001> Hello
[01:45] <jonaskoelker> fong_: I don't know, and I just made fun about Angry Aq
[01:45] <stefg> !download | egat
[01:45] <ubotu> egat: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[01:45] <jonaskoelker> fong_: see also www.lugradio.org
[01:45] <Ast001> Can you tell me how can I change double click to one click for start desired application
[01:45] <jonaskoelker> (or their mirror, lugradio.cult.propaganda.ubuntu.com)
[01:46] <jonaskoelker> :D
[01:46] <Ast001> I just can not find that in System
[01:46] <jay_1> im trying to save the beryl-manager in my startup options it wont save anyone know why?
[01:46] <fong_> got it... will check it out.
[01:47] <Ast001> want to click only once and start destop application
[01:47] <Ast001> not twice
[01:47] <fong_> lol
[01:47] <fong_> someone wants to save some ATPs
[01:47] <jonaskoelker> Ast001: open nautilus, Edit -> Preferences -> Behaviour: click once ...
[01:48] <jonaskoelker> fong_: Alcohol, Tobacco and Pyrotechnics?
[01:48] <fong_> jonas, i meant energy...
[01:48] <Ast001> thank you thats it
[01:49] <Ast001> i knew it is simple
[01:49] <Markus4> If someone able to start Ekiga, select Evolutions address book and dial a "normal" phone number with it? I set up a PC-To-Phone account with my sip provider (not Diamond), but I can't get ekiga to dial my evolution contacts. (Using Ekiga 2.0.3 with Feisty, also tried 2.1.0-20070523-03)
[01:49] <fong_> ATPs- adenosine triphosphate
[01:49] <Azzkikr> you mean the ATP from RPG's? :D
[01:49] <kornerr> hi
[01:49] <Azzkikr> oh.
[01:49] <fong_> human energy
[01:49] <fong_> hehe
[01:49] <wols> fong_: you mean soylent green?
[01:49] <Azzkikr> soylent green is people!
[01:50] <jonaskoelker> Azzkikr: ATP from RPGs is what?
[01:50] <jonaskoelker> Azzkikr: attack target penalty or something?
[01:50] <Azzkikr> jonaskoelker: dunno, attack points?
[01:50] <aphrodite1> gnomefrak: thanks for your help, problem resolved
[01:50] <fong_> AP is more like it for attack points
[01:50] <aphrodite1> wols:thanks for your help, problem resolved
[01:50] <jonaskoelker> Gee...  I don't know what atp means...
[01:50] <gnomefreak> aphrodite1: yw
[01:50] <WeeJeWel> ./home/emile/orinoco/orinoco.c:4287: fout: struct net_device has no member named dev
[01:50] <fong_> jonas, its Adenosine triphosphate
[01:50] <WeeJeWel> what does that mean?
[01:51] <Azzkikr> WeeJeWel: looks like a coding error
[01:51] <jonaskoelker> fong_: yeah, I got that :)
[01:51] <WeeJeWel> Azzkikr, It's the orinoco package.. i didnt changed anything :)
[01:51] <bilel> Hi@all
[01:52] <wols> WeeJeWel: is this the first error?
[01:52] <bilel> where do I find cooldoc for ubuntu?
[01:52] <bilel> can
[01:52] <WeeJeWel> yes
[01:52] <bilel> sorry
[01:52] <shoot^> stefg: does it work for recovering files deleted?
[01:52] <shoot^> stefg: i didnt delete the partition, just rm'd
[01:52] <WeeJeWel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=456128 is the full log
[01:52] <fong_> who has some screenshots of their desktops?
[01:52] <Azzkikr> WeeJeWel: yeah, but the error means that a C struct, called net_device has no member variable called 'dev', so it seems _to me_ that its some kind of coding error
[01:52] <fong_> care to share?
[01:53] <gnomefreak> fong_: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:53] <stefg> shoot^: photorec is what you are looking for, no need to run testdisk
[01:54] <shoot^> stefg - ok, will that deffo get all files then?
[01:54] <wols> shoot^: you can only use NTFS undelete programs for it. They exist for Windows only but are not Free
[01:54] <stefg> shoot^: no idea
[01:54] <shoot^> stefg:  well, not deffo etc, not expecting wonders! but it does more than just photos?
[01:54] <doc|> hi, my kernel vga=791 and vga=792 work fine, but some times crash, some tool for configure vga=*** correct ? my display 1440x900
[01:54] <shoot^> wols: i'll have a look at them in a bit :)
[01:55] <shoot^> wols: try linux solutions first
[01:55] <shoot^> (free!)
[01:55] <wols> there ar no linux solutions for NTFS.
[01:55] <stefg> shoot^: yeak, it was originally for photos, but has been extended a lot. But i don't know how well it works on ntfs
[01:56] <IdleOne> !info keep
[01:56] <ubotu> keep: backup system for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 202 kB, installed size 1156 kB
[01:56] <Azzkikr> what was the linux utility called to make files unreadable and unrecoverable? something like shreck or something?
[01:56] <Azzkikr> oh, I remember: shred
[01:57] <wols> Azzkikr: depending on the amount of money you spend it's not uncrecverable
[01:58] <Azzkikr> wols: iirc shred will take care of that
[01:59] <erUSUL> !info testdisk | shoot^
[01:59] <ubotu> shoot^: testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB
[01:59] <wols> Azzkikr: no it doesn't :)
[01:59] <paradroid> Hi. I have a couple of logos here as EPS (Encapsulated PostScript) that I would like to edit as vectors. Unfortunately Inkscape can export to EPS but seems inable to read it. Are there any converters or other software that can handle EPS?
[01:59] <Azzkikr> please clarify
[01:59] <wols> the only way to be sure a file is unreadable is thermite
[02:00] <JohnStax> wols: you've watched 'brainiac' too much ;)
[02:00] <Garnol> Hi .. my cd drive isnt supported by ubuntu .. last time i installed ubuntu it worked fine .. but now it says that there isnt any CD Drive loaded .. :( ..
[02:00] <wols> JohnStax: no. I just know what the US gov does with really classified data
[02:00] <erUSUL> !info xfig | paradroid
[02:00] <ubotu> paradroid: xfig: Facility for Interactive Generation of figures under X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.2.5-alpha5-9ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 572 kB, installed size 1472 kB
[02:00] <wols> or rather the media, the data was on
[02:01] <jonaskoelker> paradroid: I don't know, but I wouldn't think there's an eps-to-vector converter
[02:01] <jonaskoelker> paradroid: the reason I don't think so is that (e)ps is a turing-complete language that's much more general than just vectors
[02:01] <Garnol> Hi .. my cd drive isnt supported by ubuntu .. last time i installed ubuntu it worked fine .. but now it says that there isnt any CD Drive loaded .. :( ..
[02:01] <wols> Garnol: what controller has the drive attached?
[02:02] <paradroid> jonaskoelker: Hm. OK. Weird though, that e. g. Inkscape knows how to export to EPS but not how to re-import such a file. :/
[02:02] <paradroid> jonaskoelker: I would simply love a eps-to-svg tool. ;)
[02:03] <jonaskoelker> paradroid: well, don't take my word for it, people went to the moon too, and I don't understand how that's possible either :)
[02:03] <Garnol> oh .. sry i described it fals way .. it cant load Music and DVD CDs
[02:03] <paradroid> jonaskoelker: They did?
[02:03] <paradroid> ;)
[02:03] <Brutus> vous etes tous des noob
[02:03] <jonaskoelker> paradroid: actually no, it was a hoax
[02:03] <Garnol> wait .. i
[02:03] <paradroid> jonaskoelker: ;)
[02:03] <sacater> wtf
[02:03] <jonaskoelker> woo-hooo, hostile takeover baby
[02:03] <jonaskoelker> !wtf > sacater
[02:04] <jonaskoelker> :P
[02:04] <Azzkikr> wow wtf was that
[02:04] <Shafto> who was asking about the eps-to-svg?
[02:04] <wols> clone attack
[02:04] <jonaskoelker> Shafto: paradroid
[02:04] <Shafto> paradroid, http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=93940
[02:04] <Tempo> loser attack
[02:04] <sacater> !wtf > Azzkikr
[02:04] <amrcidiot> hello?
[02:04] <Shafto> paradroid, That reckons you can do it with openoffice draw
[02:04] <amrcidiot> i need help with installation
[02:04] <jonaskoelker> paradroid: Like I said, don't believe what I say :)
[02:04] <amrcidiot> can someone help me?
[02:04] <Azzkikr> sacater: it's an acronym man :/
[02:05] <Shafto> !ask | amrcidiot
[02:05] <ubotu> amrcidiot: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:05] <jonaskoelker> amrcidiot: installation of ubuntu, or particular applications on ubuntu?
[02:05] <paradroid> OK, all. I'll give your advices (xfig, OO) a try. Thank you!
[02:05] <sacater> Azzkikr: meh, I got it done to me :(
[02:05] <IdleOne> gnomefreak, you can k-line users also?
[02:05] <Azzkikr> heh
[02:05] <Shafto> paradroid, read the link i sent you
[02:05] <aroo> Where can I read kernel changes
[02:05] <Shafto> paradroid, http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=93940
[02:05] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: its been taken care of
[02:05] <Azzkikr> sacater: ah I see now :) was hidden by all that spam from before
[02:05] <kling0n> is there anyone supporting a repository with a newer alsa version then the release in feisty ?
[02:06] <sacater> Azzkikr: hee hee
[02:06] <kling0n> supporting/maintaining
[02:06] <IdleOne> gnomefreak, I know. I was just wondering if you have k-line ability
[02:06] <kling0n> i have had nasty crackling on my sound for ages now
[02:06] <paradroid> Shafto: TY. Sound like the super-easy-kindergarten solution I was looking for.
[02:06] <gnomefreak> nope but a few of the ops do. only freenode staff can
[02:06] <Shafto> paradroid, Just hope it works :
[02:06] <IdleOne> gnomefreak, thats what I thought
[02:07] <paradroid> Shafto: Import is OK. ;)
[02:07] <amrcidiot> ok, when i run from the cd on ubuntu (i have windows xp installed),  it won't let me save my settings, and whatnot when i run it again (perfectly alright since i was only just playing around lastnight-this morning). but the installation icon.... well, i want to sintall it, but would installing it get rid of my windows xp and everything with it?
[02:07] <jonaskoelker> amrcidiot: it is intended not to
[02:08] <Shafto> !dualboot | amrcidiot
[02:08] <ubotu> amrcidiot: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[02:08] <jonaskoelker> amrcidiot: when I installed, I got the option of resizing my existing partition
[02:08] <amrcidiot> ok
[02:08] <amrcidiot> thanks
[02:08] <erUSUL> amrcidiot: no, the instaler can shrink the winXP partition to make room for ubuntu without deleting anything.  I tried k3b but it didnt work
[02:08] <jonaskoelker> amrcidiot: I haven't tried it, so I can't vouch for how well it actually works, but it's intended to be safe
[02:08] <jonaskoelker> Syn_de: dd
[02:08] <jonaskoelker> Syn_de: :P
[02:09] <manu_> hi i made today sudo apt-get install upgrade and there are 3 packages of linux kernel which he dont wants to install
[02:09] <manu_> is that bad?
[02:09] <manu_> he refuses
[02:09] <k31th> vmware running xp, wats it like ?
[02:09] <k31th> n feisty
[02:09] <k31th> n*
[02:09] <k31th> on*
[02:09] <jonaskoelker> Syn_de: perhaps you want to try nautilus-cd-burner?
[02:09] <erUSUL> Syn_de: they are usually iso files use 'file *.img' it will tell you for sure
[02:10] <manu_> and i also heared that  is houldnt do apt-get upgrade in X is that right, only in init 3
[02:10] <amrcidiot> well, could someone give me instructions on how to dual, without the use of a windows xp cd (a tutorial last night said i needed one) and, if i decide to later go to xp, how can i go about making the size bigger if i need to or opening windows?
[02:10] <jonaskoelker> manu_: put the exact output of apt-get into a pastebin, and post a link in the channel
[02:10] <jonaskoelker> manu_: apt-get is safe to do under X
[02:10] <ZeroA4> k31th, it is like windows runing in a window :)
[02:10] <xzl> quit
[02:10] <k31th> i ment speed
[02:11] <stefg> !offtopic | k31th
[02:11] <ubotu> k31th: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:11] <ZeroA4> k31th, it good... but you will wanto to disable windows efects and unused servies
[02:11] <jonaskoelker> kling0n: (about more bleeding-edge packages: try #ubuntu+1)
[02:11] <amrcidiot> well, could someone give me instructions on how to dual, without the use of a windows xp cd (a tutorial last night said i needed one) and, if i decide to later go to xp, how can i go about making the size bigger if i need to or opening windows?
[02:12] <jonaskoelker> amrcidiot: I think we heard you the first time :P
[02:12] <k31th> ZeroA4: its a amd dual core with 2gb of ram was going to give xp 512 ram.
[02:12] <ZeroA4> k31th, it very good
[02:12] <jonaskoelker> amrcidiot: IIRC, the installer will automatically set up grub to chainload the windows bootloader
[02:12] <manu_> jonaskoelker: http://paste.debian.net/29073
[02:12] <amrcidiot> o, well there was so much text, and no replies. lol, i've had like 4 hrs of sleep.... becuase of linux ;)
[02:13] <ZeroA4> k31th, i have a VM runing XP with 256MB for it... in a P4 1.8Ghz with 512MB RAM
[02:13] <ZeroA4> k31th, I tweak XP to boot using only %)MB RAM
[02:13] <paradroid> Shafto: OK, it seems that OO Draw does export to all kinds of formats, among them SVG. Unfortunately it did not retain the vector information of the previously imported EPS file but rather converted it into a png bitmap then embedded as image/png;base64.
[02:13] <ZeroA4> err
[02:13] <ZeroA4> 50MB RAM
[02:13] <TheMahmoud> mahmoud..
[02:13] <jonaskoelker> manu_: try sudo aptitude install <the package names>
[02:14] <TheMahmoud> mahmoud, are you here?
[02:14] <jonaskoelker> manu_: and see what it says
[02:14] <amrcidiot> ok, so i just install linux, then i can have access to my c drive(which isn't c in linux, so my windows stuff to put it in linux like my texts and pictures, whatnot) and then install IIRC to get the grubso i can use windows
[02:14] <amrcidiot> right?
[02:14] <ZeroA4> amrcidiot, You should have a backup of you XP
[02:14] <Keneo> Hello, I'm noticing brute force attacks on vsftpd (all by same ip) what is an easy way to block this ip? (same for ssh?)
[02:14] <jonaskoelker> amrcidiot: IIRC means "If I Recall Correctly"
[02:14] <stefg> !dualboot | amrcidiot
[02:14] <ubotu> amrcidiot: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[02:14] <TheMahmoud> damn.. i hate it when someone takes my name
[02:14] <ZeroA4> amrcidiot, but it is easy... the ubuntu install does the dual boot
[02:14] <wols> Keneo: hosts.allow
[02:15] <wols> Keneo: iptables would work too
[02:15] <jonaskoelker> wols: exactly what does and (more importantly) doesn't use hosts.allow?
[02:15] <MrStein> Hi!
[02:15] <jin> :S gain crashed when I try to create a msn account. why do ppl still call this stable?
[02:15] <jonaskoelker> wols: do the apps code to do it (seems stupid)?  Is it the tcp wrappers used in inetd.conf?
[02:15] <MrStein> Where does ubnutu(gnome) save the applications list to open certain file types ? That is the action for each file type ?
[02:16] <jonaskoelker> MrStein: I would guess gconf
[02:16] <jonaskoelker> MrStein: gnome stores pretty much all configuration in gconf
[02:16] <wols> jonaskoelker: whatever you start via tcpwrappers
[02:16] <jonaskoelker> wols: thought so, thanks
[02:16] <Shafto> MrStein, I think you can change it under 'Preffered applaications' in preferences
[02:16] <Alarifes> #java
[02:16] <MrStein> jonaskoelker: in which menu is it ?
[02:16] <amrcidiot> ok, well.... how do i back up windows? i happened to notice i need to right click, copy on the c drive, but where do i paste it to?(lol, well i was looking online lastnight for irc clients, and IIRC was one, and i was like, why would an irc client install the grub.... haha, like i said, little sleep)
[02:16] <jonaskoelker> MrStein: several places, I would think, but none I can remember
[02:16] <MrStein> Shafto: no, there are onyl Firefox , mail and terminal ...
[02:16] <pnx031> for help with beryl and drivers where do i ask? ;o
[02:16] <Keneo> wols, is there a way to automate this? like, 10x wrong pasword =3hours blacklisted?
[02:17] <kane77> what time management utitlities are available in ubuntu?
[02:17] <Shafto> MrStein, Ohh sorry :D
[02:17] <jonaskoelker> MrStein: try running gconf-editor
[02:17] <stefg> !backup | amrcidiot
[02:17] <ubotu> amrcidiot: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[02:17] <Myrtti> !effects | pnx031
[02:17] <ubotu> pnx031: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[02:17] <wols> Keneo: there is but I don't remember packagenames
[02:17] <jonaskoelker> Keneo: try fail2ban
[02:17] <pnx031> thanks :)
[02:17] <ZeroA4> amrcidiot, i use an old copy of norton ghost that came with a mobo.
[02:17] <amrcidiot> ok, thanks, i'll check it out.
[02:17] <ZeroA4> amrcidiot, i have 2 partition for windows... i just ghost C: to a file on D:
[02:18] <jonaskoelker> kane77: what aspect of time do you want managed?
[02:18] <kane77> jonaskoelker, well I mean to manage my projects/learning etc...
[02:18] <thug> hi
[02:18] <jonaskoelker> I want ubuntu to run ~/bin/foo.sh whenever I plug in my trackball.  How do I bring that about?
[02:19] <jonaskoelker> kane77: well, I don't understand what it means to "manage time"
[02:19] <thug> anyone played abuse in ubuntu ? i wonder why there is no sound and why i cannot start it in full screen ?
[02:19] <LadyNikon> never heard of abuse sorry.
[02:19] <jonaskoelker> kane77: is it calendaring?  Drawing Gantt charts?  Drawing progress graphs (which have a fancy name I forgot)
[02:19] <thug> LadyNikon its a game
[02:19] <thug> :)
[02:19] <Keneo> jonaskoelker: thx for the tip ;)
[02:19] <jonaskoelker> Keneo: you're welcome
[02:20] <LadyNikon> thug: yeah i figured that part out.. I just never heard of it.
[02:20] <kane77> jonaskoelker, to manage when to do what + progress + some other fancy details...
[02:20] <jonaskoelker> kane77: try vi :P
[02:20] <ZeroA4> thug, I have played... but some time ago... not from the repos
[02:20] <ncd_> abuse was BIG.
[02:20] <jonaskoelker> kane77: sorry.  I don't think I can help you
[02:20] <n2diy> kane77: take a look at Sunbird
[02:20] <thug> ZeroA4 from where then ?
[02:20] <ZeroA4> thug, dont remember
[02:21] <thug> ZeroA4 did you manage to finish it ? i used to play it i windows years ago but i couldnt finish it :)
[02:21] <ZeroA4> thug, will try intalling from the repos
[02:21] <pnx031> are you sure bout #ubuntu-effects because no1 seems to be replying ;o
[02:21] <ZeroA4> no... just played a little
[02:22] <maan84> Could anyone tell me how I change theme in emerald/beryl? Or is this wrong channel for that? Beryl manager - theme manager doesnt give me option to change and double clicking wont work =/ thx
[02:22] <IdleOne> pnx031, try #beryl
[02:22] <manu_> jonaskoelker: http://paste.debian.net/29077
[02:22] <manu_> shall i do this? dont know if i need this all, i only made a upgrade with xubuntu
[02:22] <Andeh> Hello. I have an anccient laptop ATI card. This one isnt even supported on the ATI website and insttalling a similar one messes up xorg.
[02:22] <Andeh> I have an ATI Mobility Radeon 9200. How can i install drivers?
[02:22] <ZeroA4> maan84, try refresh the decaration manager at Beryl manager
[02:23] <jonaskoelker> manu_: ... and then you say Ja if you want to install it
[02:23] <egat> stefg:i just reburned the cd at minimum speed, and i get the same crc error
[02:23] <jonaskoelker> manu_: try it :)
[02:23] <stefg> egat: so either your d/l is bad, or your Drive needs cleaning/replacing
[02:24] <egat> stefg: the md5 sums matched up...i know thats not definitive, but its usually pretty good isnt it?
[02:24] <pnx031> how do i turn 3d rendering on on ubuntu!?
[02:25] <maan84> ZeroA4: doesnt seem to work, i have a png screen that easily shows the problem, can i upload it somewhere like pastebin?=)
[02:25] <davef>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[02:25] <pnx031> direct rendering even ;O
[02:25] <MrRio_> pnx031: System -> Preferences -> Desktop Effects
[02:25] <MrRio_> pnx031: oh right, i thought u meant compiz
[02:25] <stefg> egat:true... so it might be the kernel doesn't like your drive. see !boot for options that you can pass as boot arguments to circumvent irq-conflicts or acpi-trouble
[02:25] <Andeh> What does the artsd process do?
[02:25] <ZeroA4> maan84, imageshack.us
[02:25] <Andeh> it is eating all my cpu
[02:26] <MrRio_> Andeh: It is a sount server for KDE
[02:26] <pnx031> man i have 9800 xt i installed drivers... i did every step.... :S direct rendering is still set to no.
[02:26] <stefg> Andeh: artsd is the KDE soundserver
[02:26] <Andeh> Mrrio: Sount?
[02:26] <pnx031> ;S
[02:26] <Andeh> oh
[02:26] <Andeh> Why is it eating all my cpu?
[02:26] <MrRio_> sound*
[02:26] <Andeh> lol
[02:26] <naadde> umm could i get some advice... I tried google, but its still hard to understand
[02:26] <Andeh> how do i kill it?
[02:26] <MrRio_> killall artsd
[02:27] <nexusStone> hi all, I have a question using sysv-rc-conf and wondering if I can get some help here?
[02:27] <egat> stefg: thanks, i'll take a look
[02:27] <saddeh> when i run a game (warcraft 3) it runs ok, though i have menu bars from ubuntu on both top and bottom sides. how do i disable that?
[02:27] <naadde> I got linux ubuntu feisty... and I took the updates this morning and my graphical interface died
[02:27] <naadde> i am using live cd now
[02:27] <naadde> what should i do
[02:27] <naadde> to get back to gnome without live cd ?
[02:28] <maan84> ZeroA4: thanks:) http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2xh0.png  , prob is upper border is gone with X and minimise, friend said it could be the theme, so im trying to change it:P
[02:28] <jin> I don't if it is my gfx card or it is ubuntu. window drawing is a bit laggy....
[02:28] <manu_> jonaskoelker: ok i do it but why was it refused? and 179mb additional used space is many
[02:28] <jin> I got a Nvidia 7300 GS card 512MB
[02:28] <jonaskoelker> manu_: I didn't see it being refused
[02:28] <jin> still when moving windows around, it leaves traces behind for a fraction of a second and then disappear
[02:28] <doc|> any comand tool for correct vga on mode console , I have a Table http://<IP_ADDRESS>/wordpress/?p=4 ,and work work whit vga=791 ang =792, but some times crash, my display is 1440x900
[02:29] <jin> on windows xp works fine
[02:29] <mdales> on trying to upgrade from edgy to feisty I get the following error:
[02:29] <mdales> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[02:29] <mdales> I can wget and bzip2 the file manually
[02:29] <egat> !boot
[02:29] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:29] <ZeroA4> maan84, i see... i had it using the AIGLX and activating the efects at the menu... dont remember how i fixed it...
[02:29] <naadde> I got linux ubuntu feisty... and I took the updates this morning and my graphical interface died, what should I do to get back to my gnome without live cd __
[02:29] <mdales> but apt-get upgrade fails
[02:29] <bambam_> hi
[02:30] <ZeroA4> maan84, have to search the forums / wiki
[02:30] <erUSUL> mdales: dist-upgrade you mean
[02:30] <naadde> anyone here who could help me ?
[02:30] <maan84> ZeroA4: ok, well thanks anyway, ill search forums=P
[02:30] <doc|> naadde:  reinstal ur grafics driver
[02:30] <bambam_> i've some problems with fancontrol, it seams like the pwm{x}_enable in the script isn't workin
[02:30] <jin> oh well, this sucks. guess ubuntu is not for me
[02:30] <mdales> well, I tried update-manager, and it failed, so I did a manual replace of edgy for feisty in source.list and then did update
[02:31] <naadde> doc| how ?
[02:31] <nexusStone> jin, wats the prob?
[02:31] <doc|> naadde:  u have a nvidia card?
[02:31] <naadde> doc| yes a nvidia fx 5200
[02:31] <naadde> an old piece of shit
[02:31] <saddeh> when i run a game (warcraft 3) it runs ok, though i have menu bars from ubuntu on both top and bottom sides. how do i disable that?
[02:31] <jin> nexusStone: the windows are not moving smoothly as it should
[02:31] <mdales> dist-upgrade seems happier now
[02:31] <erUSUL> mdales: becouse if you are upgrading manually and you used upgrade you may have broke your system...
[02:31] <mdales> thanks
[02:31] <gnomefreak> naadde: please watch your language
[02:31] <doc|> naadde:  u have a private driver ?  of nvidia.com ?
[02:31] <ZeroA4> maan84, found one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2353579
[02:31] <naadde> noup
[02:31] <pyschok7> hey guys, any solution about the kernel issue??
[02:31] <naadde> gnomefreak: sorry
[02:32] <nexusStone> jin, consistently or only while having doing something?
[02:32] <kane77> the calendar in ubuntu (the time applet) uses evolution.. can that be changed??
[02:32] <doc|> naadde:  one sec...
[02:32] <naadde> sure
[02:32] <jin> nexusStone: consistenly, it levaes traces behind for a fraction of a second.. it's a annoying to me
[02:32] <jin> on windows xp, it doesn not do that
[02:33] <maan84> ZeroA4: thank you, ill look into it:D
[02:33] <ZeroA4> maan84, :)
[02:33] <wols> jin: what driver do you use?
[02:33] <jin> wols: I tried the one in the repo and now I'm using the one provided by nvidia.com
[02:34] <mwe> jin: That stopped for me when I enabled the correct driver
[02:34] <jin> wols: my card is 7300 GS
[02:34] <CroX> Does anyone here have an easy way to check IE-rendering under Ubuntu?
[02:34] <jin> mwe: what was that "correct driver"?
[02:34] <jornada> hi i get xorg error : could not open /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-16generic/volatile/nvidia.ko how can i fix this ?
[02:34] <Zoiks> hey, I have an ipod problem
[02:34] <mwe> jin: i915. it's intel extreme onboard
[02:34] <paradroid> jin: You could of course enable /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources
[02:34] <jin> mwe: but I got nvidia
[02:35] <Zoiks> anyone able to help?
[02:35] <naadde> are you there _
[02:35] <jin> paradroid:  I already have that enabled :(
[02:35] <paradroid> jin: Hmpf. :/
[02:35] <mwe> jin: yes, so you need the nvidia driver but i think you tried to install that, no?
[02:35] <wols> jin: can you paste the output of glxinfo?
[02:35] <paradroid> Zoiks: Elaborate on your problem, please.
[02:35] <jin> paradroid: my system is not that slow I have to enable that tho amd 64 3700+ with 1.5GB of ram
[02:36] <doc|> naadde:  google please, a lot of information
[02:36] <paradroid> jin: Oh, OK. There should be no problem at all with windows then.
[02:36] <mwe> jin: if you get the nvidia driver working correctly I bet the traces will go away
[02:36] <naadde> doc|: I tried google
[02:36] <naadde> but i did not get it
[02:36] <psychok8> hum...
[02:36] <jin> mwe: they go away, but after a fraction of a second
[02:36] <doc|> naadde:  ok, I help you on private ok ?
[02:37] <shoot^> anyone used ntfsundelete before?
[02:37] <naadde> thanks
[02:37] <mwe> jin: I mean so you don't see them at all
[02:37] <shoot^> i'm having problems getting ntfsundelete to recover multiple files
[02:37] <jin> here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22871/
[02:37] <regebro> I'm tired of trying to get my piece of crap wifi card to work. Can somebody recommend me a PCI wifi card?
[02:37] <wols> naadde: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  There choose nv. or reinstall the nvidia drivers
[02:37] <Zoiks> paradroid: I just installed a fresh version of feisty
[02:37] <saddeh> !nvidia
[02:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:37] <Zoiks> my ipod automounted
[02:37] <psychok8> HELP WITH UBUNTUS KERNEL
[02:37] <Zoiks> but now will not
[02:37] <psychok8> nayone?
[02:37] <regebro> I'm using the AMD 64 ubuntu, if that makes  difference.
[02:38] <naadde> thanks wols
[02:38] <jornada> anyone help me ?
[02:38] <jornada> hi i get xorg error : could not open /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-16generic/volatile/nvidia.ko how can i fix this ?
[02:38] <doc|> naadde:  go to ubuntu and run recovery mode
[02:38] <manu_> jonaskoelker: i gave you the link... now its installing, i hope it isnt bad for the system :(
[02:38] <doc|> naadde:  u have irssi ?
[02:38] <wols> jornada: by installing the nvidia kernel module
[02:38] <psychok8> when will ubuntu have a fix on the kernel??
[02:38] <VincentMX> hi
[02:38] <naadde> doc| i got irssi on my gnome without live cd
[02:38] <naadde> i use xchat now here
[02:39] <jonaskoelker> manu_: I figure it isn't.  In any case, you can boot up the old kernel if you don't like the new one
[02:39] <VincentMX> i have kubuntu now, how do i install ubuntu-desktop, without screwing up my menus?
[02:39] <jornada> wols exact comand would be helpful m8
[02:39] <wols> !nvidia | jornada
[02:39] <ubotu> jornada: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:39] <paradroid> Anyone else here that could give Zoiks a hand on his iPod not automounting on Feisty issue?
[02:40] <doc|> naadde:  restart ubuntu on recovery mode comands-->- sudo apt-get install irssi - irssi - /server irc.freenode.ney - /join #ubuntu
[02:40] <silent_> so, The Descent is definitely one of the worst movies I've seen
[02:40] <manu_> jonaskoelker: hm ok but i'm wondering why the kernel was refused? perhaps it has big dependencies or because it is a new kernel and i have to install it explicit?
[02:41] <naadde> doc| how do i restart it on recovery mode ? u mean recovery mode on live cd
[02:41] <VincentMX> nm
[02:41] <jonaskoelker> manu_: not sure
[02:41] <doc|> naadde:  not, no live cd , on you new kernel 2.6.20-16
[02:41] <VincentMX> ill just install, and remove kde-stuff from gnome-menu and vice versa
[02:41] <regebro> Anybody have a PCI wifi card that worked straight out of the box with Feisty?
[02:41] <Zoiks> paradroid: i think it may have something to do with amarok
[02:42] <egat> stefg: no luck....thanks anyway for your help; same to jonaskoelker. im gonna give it up for now, hopefully i can get it working soon though.
[02:42] <Zoiks> it worked before i opened amarok for the first time
[02:42] <manu_> jonaskoelker: what could be the reason for refused packages?
[02:42] <paradroid> Zoiks: The bad thing is: I do not have an iPod to give it a try here and pinpoint the problem. ;)
[02:42] <jonaskoelker> egat: you're welcome
[02:42] <jonaskoelker> manu_: not sure
[02:42] <naadde> doc| i gotkernel 2.6.20/15
[02:42] <jin> how do I plat rmvb files?
[02:42] <jin> play*
[02:42] <paradroid> Zoiks: But: did the iPod automount as a simple USB storage device?
[02:43] <jin> !rmvb
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rmvb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:43] <Zoiks> no it mounted as a proper ipod
[02:43] <Zoiks> with an icon of an ipod on the desktop and everything
[02:43] <Zoiks> now it doe snot
[02:43] <paradroid> jin: rmvb is something Real Media, right? Do you have the corresponding codecs?
[02:43] <doc|> naadde:  if you update today , meybe u have a new kernel, and thats the reason for de graphics crash
[02:43] <neil_feisty> !gutsy
[02:43] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+1
[02:43] <sacater> meep
[02:43] <itsiktklm> i want to dual boot two linuxs (debian and ubuntu) cam i share the swap?
[02:44] <jin> paradroid: I don't know...
[02:44] <sacater> darn it wrong channel (again)
[02:44] <jonaskoelker> itsiktklm: yes, I would think so
[02:44] <naadde> so what sdhould i do doc| ?
[02:44] <paradroid> jin: Well, then it might be a good idea to install all the free/non-free codecs. ;)
[02:44] <paradroid> jin: Which version of Ubuntu do you use? Isn't there some codec-wizard in the latest release?
[02:44] <mwe> jin: I wish I remembered if I did anything other than enabling the correct driver to make the window lagging stop
[02:44] <itsiktklm> jonaskoelker, do you think i matters where on the disc it is?  (the swap)
[02:45] <martin_> Hi folks. I had a working configuration with totem-mozilla and totem-xine. For some launchpad debugging I installed totem-gstreamer. Switching bakc now to totem-xine, I cannot see any .mpeg movies in firefox. Does anyone have a solution for that. I know that there is a mplayer solution, but I prefer totem
[02:45] <doc|> naadde:  restart ubuntu on recovery mode and comands-->- sudo apt-get install irssi - irssi - /server irc.freenode.ney - /join #ubuntu , u can work on comand line for install a drivers for graphical
[02:45] <ShackJack> itsiktklm - yes, you can share the swap, ideally it should be on the same physicall HD as the rest of the OS
[02:45] <doc|> naadde:   /server irc.freenode.net  ***
[02:45] <naadde> doc| i dont know if i can restart in recovery mode
[02:45] <itsiktklm> ShackJack, are there any disadvantages to it?
[02:45] <adaptr> ShackJack ideally, it should be on another HD< not the same
[02:45] <naadde> because when i restart it says my graphical interface xserver died
[02:45] <jin> mwe paradroid I'm using Edgy
[02:45] <jin> !mp3
[02:45] <Laney> np:
[02:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:46] <doc|> naadde:  recovery mode only comand line , is not graphical mode
[02:46] <graveson1> why are the mount points in nautilus different to the mount points when i run the df command
[02:46] <naadde> doc| how do i get to recovery mode
[02:46] <mwe> jin: I'd upgrade to feisty. edgy didn't have the window lag for me either, though.
[02:46] <naadde> do i write recovery mode to terminal _
[02:47] <doc|> naadde:  on menu grub
[02:47] <naadde> menu grub _
[02:47] <naadde> ?
[02:47] <Skiff> guys who can help me install nvidia drivers, I tried doing it and failed, had to revert to NV drivers ;(
[02:47] <mwe> naadde: when you boot, before the splash appears, press esc
[02:47] <naadde> ok
[02:47] <Skiff> I tried the gnome restricted drivers way. didnt work out
[02:47] <mwe> naadde: really early just after post
[02:48] <naadde> doc| stay here i am coming back if i get problems with the irssi
[02:48] <doc|> naadde:  ok
[02:49] <migney> How to have a chat with this "XChat"?
[02:50] <martin_> migney, What are you meaning by that?
[02:51] <PrMoriarty> EHLO
[02:51] <LadyNikon> i wonder was that person using xchat
[02:51] <PrMoriarty> i can help me with  ntpd
[02:51] <martin_> LadyNikon, Good question ;)
[02:51] <Skiff> hmm ok guys I tried installing nvidia driver through restricted drivers way, didnt work out, any suggestions ?
[02:51] <Skiff> any1 uses nvidia drivers here?:)
[02:51] <PrMoriarty> i didn t where i can configure de delay betwen each outgoiing connexin?
[02:52] <LadyNikon> migney: http://www.xchat.org/docs/
[02:52] <doc|> Skiff:  I have nvidia drivers
[02:52] <martin_> migney, What do you want to do exactly?
[02:52] <migney> LadyNikon: Thank you .
[02:52] <Skiff> doc|, ok how did you install them?
[02:53] <Dr_J> quick question guys..  if im part way through doing an apt-get and its prompting me for something and i want to quit?   what do i type?
[02:53] <naadde> doc|: i am here now
[02:53] <Zoiks> ctrl+c
[02:53] <Zoiks> Dr_J:
[02:53] <Dr_J> thanks Zoiks
[02:53] <doc|>   naadde  u are  on irssi ?
[02:53] <Zoiks> np
[02:53] <naadde> yup
[02:53] <naadde> wanna querry so we can talk in private
[02:54] <doc|> naadde:  1 sec
[02:54] <graveson1> why are the mount points in nautilus different to the mount points when i run the df command
[02:54] <maan84> ZeroA4: yay it worked by adding Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" in xorg.conf ^^ thanks for the help
[02:54] <naadde> sure
[02:54] <Skiff> doc| did you use system>restrictive drivers or some other way to install proper nvidia drivers?
[02:54] <ZeroA4> maan84,  :)
[02:54] <Zoiks> anyone know why amarok killed my automount with my ipod?
[02:54] <doc|> Skiff:  I help a naadde  for the install drivers, u wanna to ?
[02:55] <qbasicjedi> Hey, I'm new to this Linux stuff
[02:55] <Skiff> doc| yes
[02:55] <qbasicjedi> How do I run a program here....
[02:55] <SlimeyPete> qbasicjedi: welcome :)
[02:55] <luke__> tanks
[02:55] <qbasicjedi> I try to type its name
[02:55] <qbasicjedi> But nothign happens
[02:55] <Skiff> doc| private channel or here?
[02:55] <naadde> I am happy to get help
[02:55] <qbasicjedi> This isn't liek the command line in Windows
[02:55] <SlimeyPete> qbasicjedi: what, you mean in a terminal?
[02:55] <naadde> linux is kind of hard for newbies
[02:55] <doc|> Skiff: :  restart ubuntu on recovery mode and comands-->- sudo apt-get install irssi - irssi - /server irc.freenode.net - /join #ubuntu , u can work on comand line for install a drivers for graphical
[02:55] <qbasicjedi> Yes, in a terminal
[02:55] <pppoe_dude> hi. how can i boot from a windows partition using grub if i deleted all other partitions and the boot loader won't boot anymore?
[02:55] <Skiff> doc| I got 2 computers
[02:55] <Skiff> Ill be here anyway
[02:56] <SlimeyPete> qbasicjedi: you do just type its name. Are you sure you are typing the right name?
[02:56] <doc|> Skiff:  ok
[02:56] <pppoe_dude> i'm trying to boot from a recovery partition
[02:56] <qbasicjedi> we'll, it
[02:56] <qbasicjedi> s not working
[02:56] <SlimeyPete> qbasicjedi: what program are you trying to run?
[02:56] <luke__> anyone know of a non-java P2p client like limewire or frostwire?
[02:56] <doc|> Skiff:  restar on recovery mode
[02:56] <qbasicjedi> A basic interpreter for linux tha tI downlaoded form the web
[02:56] <Skiff> k
[02:56] <qbasicjedi> Can't live without BASIC!
[02:56] <naadde> doc| i query you now
[02:56] <Skiff> doc| how do I start recovery mode/?
[02:56] <qbasicjedi> Don
[02:57] <qbasicjedi> Don't make fun of me.
[02:57] <und3ad> can you give me a good and easy torrent client?
[02:57] <SlimeyPete> qbasicjedi: was it a .deb file? Or did you compile it manually?
[02:57] <SlimeyPete> qbasicjedi: btw there are basic interpreters available via Add/Remove Programs or Synaptic, I think
[02:57] <Skiff> doc| ok Im in recovery mode
[02:57] <qbasicjedi> No, it was just, a fiel
[02:57] <pppoe_dude> or, alternatively, how do i install grub on the MBR using the live-cd?
[02:57] <qbasicjedi> *file
[02:57] <qbasicjedi> It was in a tarball
[02:57] <SlimeyPete> qbasicjedi: what's the file called?
[02:57] <qbasicjedi> and I untarred it
[02:57] <qbasicjedi> and I tried to run it
[02:57] <luke__> I did a kernel update in Feisty and Java broke
[02:57] <SlimeyPete> qbasicjedi: ah. do a "chmod +x <filename>" first.
[02:57] <qbasicjedi> There's a file in there called "basic" and it's colored green
[02:58] <Curley_Sue> luke__: like eMule? --> aMule (it's in the repos)
[02:58] <SlimeyPete> qbasicjedi: it may not be set to be executable
[02:58] <luke__> Can any one help?
[02:58] <qbasicjedi> Thanks
[02:58] <qbasicjedi> I'll try that
[02:58] <Skiff> doc| do you mind talking to me and naadde in a private room so its less clogged?
[02:58] <Skiff> doc| Im logged in as root
[02:58] <SlimeyPete> qbasicjedi: if it doesn;t work, I do suggest you install an interpreter via synaptic or add/remove. Things generally work better if they're installed that way.
[02:58] <Skiff> in receovery
[02:58] <doc|> naadde:  u use Ctrl Alt  F3 , to go other comand line ok , and back whit Ctrl Alt F2
[02:58] <naadde> ok doc|
[02:59] <qbasicjedi> :(
[02:59] <naadde> but I came back with alf f1
[02:59] <Curley_Sue> luke__: do u mean something like eMule?
[02:59] <qbasicjedi> I miss downloading an executable and running it form anywhere liek in Windows or DOS
[02:59] <naadde> tty1 and tty2
[02:59] <qbasicjedi> Crap
[02:59] <qbasicjedi> That's going to take a bit to get used to
[03:00] <qbasicjedi> Alrighty, I'll look for a BASIC interpreter in a package
[03:00] <zgr> holy shit
[03:00] <PriceChild> !ohmy | zgr
[03:00] <ubotu> zgr: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:00] <zgr> oh my god
[03:00] <SlimeyPete> qbasicjedi: if you put an executable into /usr/bin, you will be able to run it from any directory.
[03:00] <Myrtti> zgr: please
[03:00] <martin_> qbasicjedi, I can tell you, that for me it is exactly the opposite. I like 'apt-get' that not only installs all my software, but also keeps it  up to date
[03:01] <zgr> sorry
[03:01] <SlimeyPete> qbasicjedi: once you get used to the "ubuntu way" of installing stuff, you'll grow to love it, I promise :) It's much cleverer and more robust than Windows, on the whole.
[03:01] <luke__> ANYONE KNOW HOW TO FIX A BROKEN JAVA AFTER A KERNEL UPDATE?
[03:01] <Curley_Sue> luke__: what's wrong?
[03:02] <zgr> please recommend me some distro  )))
[03:02] <Curley_Sue> zgr: ubuntu? ;-)
[03:03] <luke__> Curley_Sue: No, I need some that is NON-JAVA to replace FROSTWIRE as my java is broken after kernel update I just did.
[03:03] <zgr> never used ubuntu... going to try
[03:03] <PriceChild> !caps | luke__
[03:03] <ubotu> luke__: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:03] <luke__> sorry!
[03:04] <kazol> Is eat easy to link a wifi crd to an ethernet card?
[03:04] <Curley_Sue> zgr what have u used by now?
[03:04] <rbolt> has anyone tried changing the ubuntu startup logo?
[03:04] <kazol> In other words, my main computer has wifi and I want to connect another computer to it through ethernet. How do I bridge connections?
[03:04] <qbasicjedi> OK, I found a different thing
[03:05] <wols> kazol: NAT
[03:05] <qbasicjedi> I got it working. Thanks
[03:05] <qbasicjedi> Bye
[03:05] <Curley_Sue> luke__: amule is non-java as far as i know. what r u trying to do?
[03:05] <kazol> wols: Should I set settings or something?
[03:05] <saddeh> how do i change partitions? :)
[03:05] <graveson1> why are the mount points in nautilus different to the mount points when i run the df command
[03:05] <jeremyb> kazol: tun/tap
[03:05] <wols> kazol: no. install ipmasq
[03:06] <Curley_Sue> kazol: r both computer connected to the same router?
[03:06] <kazol> wols: So ipmasq is gui? And it will allow to link the internet to ethernet?
[03:06] <wols> why would you need a GUI?
[03:06] <kazol> Curley_Sue: One is on wifi; I want to connect another one to the main one through ethernet.
[03:07] <wols> kazol: apt-get ipmasq that is all you need
[03:07] <Curley_Sue> kazol: do mean through lan connection? but again - is it the same router?
[03:08] <kazol> Curley_Sue: I guess so. The hardware firewall connects to the WAP which is connected to the main computer.
[03:08] <wols> kazol: if your WLAN is on a non public IP, bridging would work too
[03:09] <kazol> wols: This is just a temporary link so that I could install Debian before moving it into the server room. Will I able to disable it easily?
[03:09] <Curley_Sue> kazol: if i understand correctly what you are trying to do - all you need to do is define the relevant directories as shared
[03:09] <wols> yes. apt-get remove. but: we're  in #ubunut. what debian?
[03:09] <chrisjs169> i just put a dvd burner in, but it can't read any dvds.  i feel i'm missing something...
[03:10] <wols> Curley_Sue: now what has NAT to do with shared folders?
[03:10] <kazol> wols: I wasted 20 hours of my time trying to setup\recover from RAID in Ubuntu. Turns out it was a bug!!
[03:10] <wols> chrisjs169: video DVDs?
[03:10] <kazol> wols: My only option is Debian netinstall.
[03:10] <wols> kazol: but you are in #ubuntu. this is NOT #debian
[03:10] <chrisjs169> wols: yeah
[03:11] <johnficca2> can i use remote desktop if I'm in the starts and the person I'm connecting to is in the philippines ?
[03:11] <johnficca2> stats*
[03:11] <johnficca2> states
[03:11] <LadyNikon> ya.. probably will be laggy
[03:12] <wols> johnficca2: yes. but it depends on the speed of the link
[03:12] <johnficca2> how do I conect?
[03:12] <wols> with the IP
[03:12] <SlimeyPete> they might need to set up a port re-direct on their router, if they have one
[03:13] <yotux> is the new kernel update safe to install?
[03:13] <johnficca2> is there a how to somewhere that I can read?
[03:13] <johnficca2> about remote desktop
[03:14] <IowaDave> chrisjs169: video DVD's are mostly encrypted. you may need to install an additional library to be abel to read them. see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:14] <kkrusty> is the way for downloading and compiling the linux kernel any different for feisty? or is it the same thing. Because im reading a howto which was meant for breezy badger
[03:14] <kazol> wols: So what? I'm trying to setup bridging in Ubuntu.
[03:14] <wols> kkrusty: same
[03:14] <earthen> johnficca2, what kind of sys are you trying to connect to
[03:15] <kazol> wols: I have prepared the cables\hub and installed the app. What should I do next?
[03:15] <johnficca2> a laptop
[03:15] <tinker> tinker
[03:15] <psychok8> why does the new ubuntu kernel work in some computers, but not in others?
[03:15] <Stormx2> Okay.
[03:15] <yotux> kkrusty:  I am assuming the the kernels have changed some since then,  but the compile should be about the same
[03:15] <johnficca2> my friend needs help install ubuntu
[03:15] <earthen> johnficca2, is it running windows or linux
[03:15] <wols> kazol: what app?
[03:15] <chrisjs169> IowaDave: I've got all of the packages installed, but it still isn't working
[03:15] <kazol> wols: The ipmasq
[03:15] <ShackJack> psychok8 - you'll need to be more specific.
[03:15] <johnficca2> it would be running ubuntu live
[03:15] <Stormx2> Which wise bastard decided to include an update which rewrote grub's menu.lst into an unusable state
[03:15] <wols> kazol: it asked you something when you installed it. that's all
[03:15] <Stormx2> I'm furious
[03:16] <Stormx2> I certainly hope it made a backup
[03:16] <johnficca2> at the time I try to help him
[03:16] <psychok8> the new kernel update gave me problems... my desktop has changed
[03:16] <kkrusty> one more thing.. im using the proprietary nvidia driver and I just want to 'play' with the kernel code. Will I mess up my old setup in anyway if i compile the new one?
[03:16] <tinker> Does anyone use the gnome xchat client?   I'm not sure my sound notification is working.  Can someone type in 'tinker" so I can see?
[03:16] <psychok8> it looks like a new instalation or something
[03:16] <Stormx2> tinker
[03:16] <IowaDave> chrisjs169: then you're ahead of me and i'm stumped. sorry.
[03:16] <tinker> Stormx2:  It works!  Thanks!
[03:16] <kazol> wols: It doesn't ask me anything. I ran "sudo ipmasq" and it just gives me the prompt.
[03:16] <wols> kkrusty: no. just that your X won't work with the new kernel untill you compile nvidia kernel driver for it
[03:16] <psychok8> i have been in forums and there has been other problems with the new kernel
[03:16] <psychok8> but others dont have any problem
[03:17] <wols> kazol: is you did not install it then. sudo apt-get install ipmasq
[03:17] <tinker> Does anyone know how to make the server pane in the Gnome xchat client permanently go away?
[03:17] <kkrusty> wols: so thats why ill have to switch to vesa for
[03:17] <Stormx2> I'm stuck on a 5.10 live CD because the update even removed windows from my menu.lst
[03:17] <Stormx2> This is so dumb... what on earth?! o.O
[03:17] <kazol> wols: I did install it.
[03:17] <earthen> johnficca2, ok I haven't tried that before but i'll look into it
[03:17] <wols> kazol: ipmasq is NOT to be started by you. it's run via /etc/init.d/ipmasq start
[03:17] <kkrusty> thanks wols, yotux
[03:17] <wols> kazol: then it asked you about the public interface
[03:17] <psychok8> any ideas?
[03:17] <johnficca2> earthen: ok
[03:18] <ShackJack> psychok8 - tought to say - just different hardware issues... works fine for most people.  This should never have happened
[03:18] <psychok8> what do you mean?? what can i do with the live cd?
[03:18] <Stormx2> wols: I can't at the moment anyway.
[03:18] <wols> Stormx2: bithching out oeople here certainly won't fix it
[03:18] <psychok8> you guys dont have a problem with the new KERNEL update??
[03:19] <wols> psychok8: what problem do YOU have?
[03:19] <ganes> hello anybody
[03:19] <ShackJack> psychok8 - Everything, basically. Burn the .iso to a CD then boot up your computer from the CD and it will effectively run Ubuntu off the CD and you can see if things work - Internet, video, etc...
[03:19] <wols> with the new kernel that is
[03:19] <Stormx2> wols: I'm just complaining about an issue, okay?
[03:19] <kazol> wols: I ran the cmd, it masqueraded successfully, but did not ask me about interfaces.
[03:19] <luke__> Curley_Sue I ran a ubuntu update this morning to update the kernel and it BROKE
[03:19] <ganes> hhow to remaster the livecd
[03:19] <wols> Stormx2: all you do is spam the channel
[03:19] <IowaDave> chrisjs169: it is a brand new DVD player, right? i'm reading the wiki. it mentions using regionset to set the playback region for commercial dvd's. have you done that?
[03:19] <wols> kazol: dpkg-reconfigure ipmasq then
[03:19] <psychok8> my desktop complely changed.. my wallpaper and icons are gone
[03:19] <luke__> it my JAVA and now I am unable to run FROSTWIRE.
[03:19] <Stormx2> wols: You're doing it more than me. I'm describing a problem I have. /topic
[03:20] <ShackJack> Stormx2 - hi, this is a support channel, not a complain channel - you want #ubuntu-complaints ;)
[03:20] <psychok8> my HDD dont appear with the same names
[03:20] <psychok8> etc
[03:20] <wols> Stormx2: I did tell you want you can do. you still bitch
[03:20] <cwgannon> join #ubuntu-complaints
[03:20] <cwgannon> ???
[03:20] <ShackJack> psychok8 - no they won't - linux has different naming conventions - no :C, D:
[03:20] <Stormx2> wols: "Edit menu.lst" thanks, dickhead
[03:20] <Stormx2> I'm off anyway.
[03:20] <Stormx2> Cya.
[03:20] <kazol> Are PPP DSL connections?
[03:20] <ShackJack> cwgannon: join #ubuntu-complaints - that's what I meant ;)
[03:20] <PATRONn> hi
[03:20] <wols> kazol: usually yes
[03:20] <ganes> how to remaster the livecd
[03:20] <wols> PPPoE
[03:21] <ganes> how to remaster the livecd
[03:21] <cwgannon> join #ubuntu-complaints
[03:21] <cwgannon> wtf mate
[03:21] <wols> kazol: you need to tell it to use the wlan as public interface
[03:21] <yotux> PPP = dailup I thought
[03:21] <ShackJack> cwgannon - erps sorry again - meant #ubuntu-comments :)
[03:21] <wols> yotux: only among other things
[03:21] <cwgannon> join #ubuntu-comments
[03:21] <BigToe7000> help, the arrow moves across the screen when I move the mouse :(
[03:21] <wols> cwgannon: what are you doing?
[03:21] <cwgannon> i have no idea
[03:21] <kazol> wols: At what point should ipmasq be started?
[03:21] <psychok8> but is the kernel working fine for you guys??
[03:21] <psychok8> no changes or problems?
[03:22] <leetcharmer> hello everyone :D
[03:22] <wols> kazol: when network interfaces were brought up
[03:22] <psychok8> isnt the update suposed to work in every computer?
[03:22] <makk1ntosh> hi all
[03:22] <yotux> wols:  I am in the midwest we don't use PPPoE for DSL / Cable
[03:22] <leetcharmer> is anyone here familiar with programming in python?
[03:22] <wols> psychok8: either you give us a proper error description or no one can help
[03:22] <johnficca2> earthen: I reading a how to but it is only about a computer on my local network I think?
[03:22] <wols> leetcharmer: ##python
[03:22] <leetcharmer> /channels
[03:22] <makk1ntosh> tell me plz what shoudl user install to mange pptp  via GUI ?
[03:22] <yotux> psychok8:  Sometimes updates break things
[03:22] <cwgannon> /channels
[03:22] <cwgannon> argh
[03:22] <ShackJack> psychok8 - kernel works fine - yes changes, but no problems...
[03:23] <kazol> wols: It did not ask me for interfaces. Just 3 questions.
[03:23] <leetcharmer> wols: thanks :D
[03:23] <johnficca2> earthen: this would be a local ip <IP_ADDRESS> right?
[03:23] <GaiaX11> I need to build up a personal book library. Is there any program for me to register my books?
[03:23] <wols> kazol: you do have a WLAN which connects to your router. and an ethernet interface where you want to connect some other client to and let this client connect to the internet, right?
[03:24] <psychok8> i havent been exploring all the problems, but the main thing is my icons missing on my desktop, my wallpaper has gone to the default ubntu wallpapper, and my HDD are missing from desktop
[03:24] <yotux> johnficca2 - yes that is local
[03:24] <earthen> johnficca2, yes
[03:24] <psychok8> and me been able to write on ntfs partitions has also gone
[03:24] <ganes> how to remaster the livecd
[03:24] <wols> psychok8: your hDDs are missing from desktop among other icons, and your kernel "broke"? you're a funny guy...
[03:24] <ShackJack> psychok8 - those are no biggies to fix - is this a fresh install?
[03:24] <Taxman> GaiaX11: you googled already? I'd think that would be your best bet
[03:24] <aimtrainer> hi! I cant change the owner of a folder and all its files and subfolders it always only changes the owner of the folder without its content - what am I doing wrong (rightclick folder properties owner ... and then at the very bottom theres a button to make the settings take effect on the folder content but it doesnt work for me)
[03:25] <cwgannon> i saw something in the add/remove programs thing
[03:25] <wols> aimtrainer: man chmod
[03:25] <cwgannon> about books, i mean
[03:25] <johnficca2> how would I get the ip address of a computer thats not loacl
[03:25] <psychok8> i never said my kernel broke, only that my desktop has changed
[03:25] <kazol> wols: yes, only the router is a hardware firewall with DHCP disabled. Would ipmasq provide DHCP to the client?
[03:25] <cwgannon> "bibshelf" -- book organizer for gnome
[03:25] <ShackJack> psychok8 - is this a fresh install
[03:25] <psychok8> yes
[03:25] <wols> johnficca2: what do you have of the computer? what info?
[03:25] <psychok8> its a fresh install
[03:25] <earthen> johnficca2, if he is connected directly  to the internet you should just have to start the terminal server client and enter his ip address using the vnc protocol
[03:25] <ShackJack> psychok8 - did you have your /home dir on a separate partition?
[03:26] <psychok8> no
[03:26] <jamesstanley> spam or what?
[03:26] <wols> kazol: iptables -L -t nat, paste the output. also ifconfig -a
[03:26] <Alwyn> Why would Ubuntu work fine on an IDE 20G drive but not on a SCSI 40G in the same machine? (Absolute beginner)
[03:26] <psychok8> everything in one
[03:26] <psychok8> one for xp, 1for linux
[03:26] <wols> Alwyn: missing driver for the scsi card
[03:26] <ShackJack> psychok8 - settings and stuff are stored in there - when I install Linux I make a separate parition for it to store my data etc... that way when I upgrade, all my stuff is retained....
[03:26] <wols> the scsi might also not be bootable
[03:26] <yotux> later every one
[03:26] <ShackJack> psychok8 - no biggie though, you can just change wallpaper, etc...
[03:27] <kazol> !pastebin
[03:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:27] <earthen> johnficca2, just make sure he sets up his computer to allow connection first thought of cource
[03:27] <kkrusty> this guide mentions a package linux-tree. which repo does it belong to?
[03:27] <psychok8> i understand, just thought ubntu shouldnt change that stuff
[03:27] <Taxman> Alwyn: did you enable it in the bios and did you install while the drive was connected?
[03:27] <psychok8> can i still create another partition and move my home directory?
[03:27] <wols> psychok8: you can
[03:28] <piglit> wat was the command or man file i need to remount all the file systems?
[03:28] <johnficca2> earthon: ok
[03:28] <piglit> wat = what
[03:28] <Taxman> piglit: man mount
[03:28] <psychok8> ok thanks
[03:28] <silent_> oh man... I'm having some deja vu here...
[03:28] <wols> piglit: involves -o remount
[03:28] <silent_> I remember asking the same questions when I started using linux O_O
[03:29] <emile> piglit: sudo mount -a if i'm correct (check man mount)
[03:29] <ShackJack> psychok8 - if you want to access NTFS partition install ntfs-3g then go to gksudo ntfs-config and enable
[03:29] <kazol> wols: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22883/
[03:29] <silent_> emile, so long as the partition is in fstab with the auto option
[03:29] <kkrusty> does anyone know where i can get the linux-tree package?
[03:29] <piglit> thanx
[03:29] <cwgannon> i'm really not understanding how the file system works for this bugger; i've just installed "bibshelf" but have no idea where it is and/or how to find it (i've tried a find command) -- anybody care to steer me the right way?
[03:29] <wols> kazol: and ifconfig -a ?
[03:30] <IdleOne> kkrusty, package is named tree
[03:30] <silent_> ifconfig displays network info
[03:30] <wols> cwgannon: dpkg -L bibshelf |grep bin
[03:30] <IdleOne> kkrusty, sudo aptitude install tree
[03:30] <Taxman> cwgannon: what wols said
[03:30] <kazol> wols: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22884/
[03:30] <wols> cwgannon: and by default, Linux distros install everything in the path
[03:30] <Taxman> but you still have to know the executable name
[03:30] <cwgannon> awesome
[03:31] <cwgannon> thank you
[03:31] <emile> silent_: that is where you put your mounts in right? (at least i do ;-)
[03:31] <wols> kkrusty: there is no 192.168.0.x network
[03:31] <Taxman> -a won't remount though, will it?
[03:31] <Taxman> only -o remount will do that
[03:31] <wols> Taxman: no it won't
[03:31] <Alwyn> Yes I did. It boots from the SCSI 100% but with ALL settings the same as on the IDE drive I can't load "AVG free virus" for example.
[03:31] <johnficca2> I'm geting this vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: No route to host
[03:31] <kkrusty> IdleOne: is this package for the linux kernel sources?
[03:32] <wols> johnficca2: what IP did you give vncviewer?
[03:32] <wols> kkrusty: no
[03:32] <silent_> emile, you could use scripts
[03:32] <wols> kkrusty: apt-cache show tree if you want to know what it does
[03:32] <johnficca2> the one in his network tools
[03:32] <IdleOne> kkrusty, sorry I think we are not talking about the same thing
[03:32] <wols> johnficca2: that's not what I asked. please answer my question
[03:32] <johnficca2> ok
[03:32] <alexander> Hi@all+
[03:33] <Taxman> Alwyn: what do you mean by all settings the same. What happens, what error messages do you get?
[03:33] <wols> kkrusty: there is no "linux-tree" in ubuntu or debian either
[03:33] <johnficca2> <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:33] <wols> kkrusty: apt-cache search linux-source, apt-cache search kernel.source
[03:34] <Neil-> new kernel for feisty already :) You guys dont mess around
[03:34] <perlmonkey> hi guys
[03:34] <johnficca2> wols: <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:34] <wols> johnficca2: that is a non-routable IP. only works inside a LAN. you need a public IP. and since he uses a 192.168.x.x IP, there is a router at his side which needs to port forward port 5900
[03:34] <psychok8> ShackJack - i have already installed it from before the update, so i only have to execute the comand you gave me, or reinstall?
[03:35] <heffo> how can i set up firefox to use a video handling plugin? totem is being used by default but that doesnt stream properly through firefox
[03:36] <ShackJack> psychok8 - you inidicated it was a fresh install, so I assumed it wasn't installed... You can try gksudo ntfs-config
[03:37] <psychok8> ShackJack - it was a fresh install a few days ago... now i had already a lot of programs intalled.. im worried i have to install some of them again..do you advise me to wait for another update and keep using the old one, or just change fully to this one??
[03:38] <aimtrainer> wols, I tried some stuff with chmod now but im confudes .. I want to make the user aitmrainer owner of /home/aimtrainer and all its contents (I copied some stuff as root in there, that is why) so I do something like "sudo chmod -R +u aimtrainer /home/aimtrainer"... I'm lost please help me
[03:38] <ShackJack> psychok8 - I say use feisty - if you want you can repartition /home dir anytime...
[03:38] <ShackJack> Yikes - WTF was that?!
[03:38] <psychok8> by "use feisty" you mean exactly wich kernel? the new one or old one?
[03:39] <wols> aimtrainer: chown -R aimtrainer.aimtrainer /home/aimtrainer
[03:39] <IdleOne> ShackJack, that was a netsplit
[03:39] <aimtrainer> wols, thanks!
[03:39] <ShackJack> When you say "kernel" are your referrring to the Ubuntu version as a whole or the Linux kernel?
[03:39] <ShackJack> IdleOne - breakin' up is hard to do ;)
[03:39] <IdleOne> ShackJack, they will kiss and make up soon
[03:40] <piglit> hhmmm i pushed the wrong button .......
[03:40] <psychok8> ShackJack- the one i get to choose when i boot up the pc ... <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS> ??
[03:40] <davidc> hello
[03:40] <ShackJack> psychok8 - When you say "kernel" are your referrring to the Ubuntu version as a whole or the Linux kernel?
[03:41] <perlmonkey> hi guys
[03:41] <renan> hi gay
[03:41] <chrisjs169> i missed the netsplit =/
[03:41] <ShackJack> renan - who you callin' "gay" ;)
[03:41] <davidc> I just installed the kernel update today and now all of a sudden when I plug headphones into my machine sound comes out of both the internal speaker and the headphone.  Does anyone know a setting or something that I need to change to get it back to the older behavior?
[03:42] <psychok8> ShackJack- lol i im not sure i understand what you mean.. basically i want to know if i use the update or not
[03:42] <kazol> wols: sry, I lost connection. Is my setup correct?
[03:42] <perlmonkey> I just upgraded my memory to 512mb (2 x 256mb sdram pc133 sticks) and now I have strange vertical lines on my screen (which get worse when I move the mouse). If i downgrade the ram to 256mb (2 x 128mb sticks) the lines disappear... any ideas?
[03:42] <Parmenion> guys, where do i g to edit my grub menu?
[03:42] <vbabiy> hello every one
[03:42] <perlmonkey> hi
[03:42] <ShackJack> psychok8 - yes, but what do *you* mean when you say "kernel" are you concerned with the version of Ubuntu you are running or the version of Linux you are running?
[03:42] <candyman> i have a really funky problem, my computer wont work right if i dont boot to SU mode and init 5.....if anyone thinks they can help, ill explain in more detail, but its complicated
[03:42] <vbabiy> Parmenion: /etc/grub.conf
[03:42] <psychok8> the version of ubuntu
[03:42] <Parmenion> the newest kernel update today
[03:42] <Parmenion> borked my grub
[03:43] <Parmenion> thanks vbabiy
[03:43] <ShackJack> psychok8 - I would use Feisty as it has some great extras over Edgy/Dapper
[03:43] <wols> kazol: no it is not
[03:43] <zak_> why am i not getting any sound from youtube [and probably everything else]  with firefox? is this a common configuration problem or something?
[03:43] <vbabiy> Parmenion: a kernel update broken your grub?
[03:43] <kazol> wols: what should I do then?
[03:43] <candyman> zak_: it is
[03:43] <candyman> but id have to google it
[03:43] <candyman> itll be @ top of lists
[03:43] <psychok8> just hope they get a fix in this update.. coz there are a lot of ppl with problems
[03:43] <Parmenion> vbabiy, err, yeah
[03:43] <psychok8> saw some issues on the forums
[03:43] <Parmenion> it doesnt point properly
[03:44] <ShackJack> psychok8 - kernel is just the underlying o/S managment if you will - how to handle hardware, store files, etc...
[03:44] <zak_> candyman: ok i'll have a look
[03:44] <wols> kazol: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119787
[03:44] <vbabiy> Parmenion: that's weird never heard of that
[03:44] <ShackJack> psychok8 - there will always be issues - what version of ubuntu are you running now?
[03:44] <psychok8> feisty
[03:44] <wols> kazol: where you connection to the router is your wlan0 and not eth2 as described there. rest is same
[03:44] <psychok8> but dont know if i use <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS> KERNEL
[03:44] <Parmenion> vbabiy, honestly :P it didnt update the grub references roperly
[03:45] <psychok8> have to choose
[03:45] <Stormx2> psychok8: uname -a
[03:45] <Parmenion> its .16 if you updated
[03:45] <carstenpo> hi, i have an ubuntu 6.06.1 server system, which i want to use as an router. but it doesnt route anything. it can connect to the internet, but the windows clients cant connect to the internet (via the ubuntu router) what could be the problem?
[03:45] <psychok8> but thats the one ppl have been having problems with
[03:45] <Parmenion> vbabiy, nothing there at /etc/grub.conf
[03:46] <perlmonkey> is memtest86 or something similiar available in Ubuntu?
[03:46] <psychok8> i get to choose wich one i want when my grub starts
[03:46] <ubuntux> hi
[03:46] <ubuntux> does someone know how to autiomatic start a vmware image during boot time?
[03:46] <Parmenion> perlmonkey, yes
[03:46] <tts> hi all
[03:46] <psychok8> Storm2 - what command did you give me
[03:46] <psychok8> ?
[03:46] <joshua__> you should write a shell script file
[03:47] <ShackJack> psychok8 - you should always use latest if you can, but you can keep a couple in there so if you have trouble with one, you can reboot and fall back to other...
[03:47] <wols> psychok8: it gives out the version of your kernel
[03:47] <Stormx2> psychok8: uname -a. That will display your kernel version
[03:47] <perlmonkey> Parmenion: yes its available or yes theres something similiar?
[03:47] <tts> hi cast, whats up
[03:47] <carstenpo> has noone an idea?
[03:47] <Parmenion> perlmonkey, it is
[03:47] <wols> Stormx2: cooled down?
[03:47] <perlmonkey> ok thanks
[03:47] <ShackJack> psychok8 - p.S. if you;re addressing someone be sure to include their screen name so their IM beeps (I am in multiple convos myself ;))
[03:47] <perlmonkey> any ideas what name its called? memtest86 was too obvious I suppose
[03:48] <wols> perlmonkey: apt-cache search memtest
[03:48] <Parmenion> memtest86+ i believe
[03:48] <zhero> xxx
[03:48] <perlmonkey> thanks guys
[03:48] <wols> perlmonkey: and now you see why asking in #debian when running ubuntu is a shitty idea
[03:48] <tts> hi JLj
[03:49] <psychok8> ShackJack - ok sorry
[03:49] <perlmonkey> wols: I'm in a transistion period :P
[03:49] <carstenpo> has anyone installed an ubuntu server as an internet router? (mini router, home router?)
[03:49] <Stormx2> wols: I installed a new CD-ROM drive, went over a friends to borrow an old live cd. Booted it. Mounted my other partitions after a lot of fiddling. Burnt the latest ubuntu iso.  Booted the new ubuntu live cd. Mounted my ubuntu partitions. Restored a backup of menu.lst that _I_ had made. Rebooted.
[03:49] <ShackJack> psychok8 - no biggie - but if you're addressing someone they may miss some bits what with the speed things are flying by...
[03:49] <Stormx2> wols: All because of an issue that should never have occured