[07:24] <varunendra> needinghelp2, run "Additional Drivers" program from unity dash or applications menu, if you are connected to internet
[07:25] <needinghelp2> varunendra, I am connected to internet.
[07:25] <needinghelp2> varunendra, okay trying to find additional drivers deal
[07:25] <varunendra> needinghelp2, if your graphics card needs any proprietary driver, that program may be able to offer that to you
[07:26] <needinghelp2> varunendra, not sure where additional drivers is located
[07:26] <varunendra> needinghelp2, alternative way to open it -- Alt-F2 > type "jockey-gtk" > press 'Enter'
[07:26] <needinghelp2> do i just enter jockey-gtk
[07:26] <varunendra> yes, without quotes needinghelp2
[07:27] <needinghelp2> varunendra, That doesnt do anything. Nothing opens.
[07:27] <Oog> ive been struggling with rsyslog and what i think is a logrotate issue for a while - i think ive finally confirmed ther is a problem...
[07:28] <Oog> i have 5.8.11 installed - this http://www.rsyslog.com/ubuntu-repository/ says sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  will update rsyslog but it doesnt seem to
[07:28] <varunendra> needinghelp2, what is the output of "whereis jockey-gtk" ?
[07:28] <Oog> sudo aptitude versions rsyslog shows the newest versions as 5.8.11
[07:28] <needinghelp2> varunendra, do i type that in terminal?
[07:28] <varunendra> needinghelp2, yup
[07:29] <Oog> what am i doing wrong?
[07:29] <needinghelp2> varunendra, Is there a quick way to open a terminal?
[07:31] <MarkDavies> set -- `getopt 'hmv' $@`    I don't exactly understand this line. set -- sets positional parameters to the arguments, but what exactly does it mean?
[07:32] <needinghelp2> varunendra, ok@ok:~$ whereis jockey-gtk
[07:32] <needinghelp2> jockey-gtk:
[07:32] <needinghelp2> varunendra, thats what it does
[07:32] <needinghelp2> Something is definitely wrong here.  I type a word and it takes 5 seconds for the word to appear
[07:33] <MarkDavies> oh, it wasn't meant here
[07:33] <varunendra> needinghelp2, sorry went away from laptop..
[07:34] <varunendra> needinghelp2, that means that program is not installed in your system. Which version is it? Which flavour of Ubuntu?
[07:34] <needinghelp2> varunendra, Ubuntu 13.10
[07:35] <varunendra> needinghelp2, not sure if some other program has replaced it. Someone using 13.10 may be able to tell better. I'm on 12.04.
[07:35] <needinghelp2> damn
[07:35] <needinghelp2> you are the only one helping
[07:36] <varunendra> needinghelp2, please give us the pastebin link to the output of "sudo lshw -numeric -C display"
[07:37] <varunendra> needinghelp2, in the meanwhile, you may follow the same post to make the "nomodeset" option permanent. At least it'll give you a working desktop without needing to add it manually everytime
[07:38] <needinghelp2> varunendra, http://pastebin.com/9UHn5eZ3
[07:39] <varunendra> needinghelp2, yup it is indeed what I suspected. You need Nvidia driver which is currently not installed.
[07:40] <b0x> gave up trying to install nvidia drivers
[07:40] <needinghelp2> varunendra, Ok. Now what?
[07:40] <b0x> support is absolutely dismal at best.
[07:40] <varunendra> needinghelp2, unfortunately, I don't have any experience with nvidia drivers or how to install them. Probably the wiki page is the only help I can offer :(
[07:40] <varunendra> !nvidia | needinghelp2
[07:41] <varunendra> b0x, which version are you on?
[07:42] <b0x> 13.10
[07:43] <MarkDavies> What's the fastest dekstop browser?
[07:43] <varunendra> b0x, do you know if the "Additional Drivers" program has been replaced by something funnier ? :P
[07:43] <b0x> varunendra: half the doc suggests doing it manually
[07:43] <b0x> its a mish mash of crap tbh
[07:43] <b0x> i tried manual install, additional drivers (few dif versions that were apparently supported)
[07:44] <b0x> few dif tutorials/docs on sites
[07:44] <b0x> the ubuntu site
[07:44] <b0x> all basically ended with loads of errors and non working pc until i removed them all
[07:44] <varunendra> b0x, needinghelp2, my deepest sympathies to you both then :P
[07:44] <b0x> thus
[07:44] <b0x> gave up
[07:44] <varunendra> good call. Nomodeset ftw !! :D
[07:47] <nseratewe> testtest
[07:49] <Scryptonium> hello everyone
[07:50] <mnemon> the nvidia drivers worked pretty well for me after few tries with different versions
[07:51] <needinghelp2> heh it worked, I went to additional drivers and installed the propietary software for the nvidia driver..everything is awesome now
[07:52] <needinghelp2> didnt even have to use the nomodeset thist ime
[07:55] <varunendra> needinghelp2, so where did you find the Additional Drivers thing? So that I can be confident next time .. ;)
[07:55] <varunendra> congratulations by the way needinghelp2 ! I guess you can change your nick now :P
[07:56] <TuttoIrc> ciao
[07:56] <TuttoIrc> !list
[07:57] <needinghelp2> varunendra, Yes, The additional drivers option is what worked.
[07:57] <needinghelp2> varunendra, Wonderfully I might add.
[07:58] <needinghelp2> varunendra, Now there is no delay in my typing, and everything is fast like it should be. WOOHOO! You are the greatest!
[07:58] <Dontneedhelpanym> There we go :)
[07:58] <varunendra> Dontneedhelpanym, :D
[07:58] <dontneedhelp> there thats better
[07:59] <varunendra> dontneedhelp, so what is the path to find Additional Drivers in 13.10 ?
[08:00] <Oog> i got rsyslogd 7.4.10 installed .... syslog still empty
[08:07] <dontneedhelp> varunendra, Did you see where I posted the path to it?
[08:07] <dontneedhelp> varunendra, I timed out I guess.
[08:09] <varunendra> dontneedhelp, nope, connection was broken I guess..
[08:10] <dontneedhelp> varunendra, I went to System Settings | Software & Updates | Additional Drivers Tab
[08:10] <dontneedhelp> varunendra, Without your help I would not be able to be enjoying Ubuntu on this new computer.  Thank you very much for your time and dedication to helping others.
[08:11] <varunendra> dontneedhelp, that's funny, because upto the second stage was already in my mind -- that's were we enable the repository for it :P
[08:11] <varunendra> and no problem dontneedhelp , we do it because we enjoy it :)
[08:11] <dontneedhelp> :)
[08:13] <Decstasy> Has someone an idea how to rebind a multimedia-key from mute speaker to mute microphone? It's a G15
[08:41] <jlmarks1> Howdy folks! I am attempting to create a launcher so that I can have a specific file on the unity launcher. I am attempting to loosely follow the instructions here: http://askubuntu.com/a/80016 , and my .desktop file looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6953347/ , however when I attempt to use that file, either from unity or nautilus it opens the application, but not the file. I can paste the "Exec" line into a terminal and it opens th
[08:56] <Fuzzles92> can someone help me please, i cant get audio out of hdmi and my tv works fine as well as the cable?
[09:00] <irssi-mike> Fuzzles92: not sure never tried it but i think up top on the right, settings, output set to hdmi?
[09:02] <vedranm> hey guys
[09:03] <vedranm> does 14.04 pre-release enable ibus by default for all users?
[09:03] <DJones> vedranm: Probably best if you join #ubuntu+1 and ask that question there, thats the support channel while its in development, people there will probably have a better idea
[09:04] <vedranm> DJones: k, thx
[09:04] <DJones> vedranm: Just be aware its a much smaller channel, so may take a while to get a reply
[09:05] <Hiro`> Hey everyone, I'm having a bit of a mare trying to sort out locales on my system. It says that I need language-pack-en to install it, but then when I try to install language-pack-en, it says that I need locales!
[09:05] <vedranm> DJones: k
[09:05] <Fuzzles92> can smeone help me, im having problem and getting no audio from hdmi my tv and cable are fine any ideas?
[09:09] <linuxearth> is it safe to do Bank transactions in the Tor web browser?
[09:11] <linuxearth> anyone is free here?
[09:11] <Fuzzles92> linuxearth, using a normal browser will be fine
[09:12] <yacc> Is there a guide (beyond reinstall) on how to proceed if one notices unauthorized access to an Ubuntu box?
[09:13] <linuxearth> Fuzzles92: ok but please elaborate with reason
[09:13] <varunendra> linuxearth, absolute safety does not exist on internet, but it is relatively safer. In fact any common browser or OS that forgets session changes will be equally safer in that respect
[09:13] <Guest3843> I have reinstall windows my grub menu not showing right now. I got a link "http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video"  after chroot when I tried to next command showing error "The program 'grub' is not installed "
[09:13] <x-os> Hello! Quick question...does anyone know if Cent OS uses systemd?
[09:13] <somsip> !ot | x-os
[09:14] <linuxearth> varunendra: but should I do those Bank transactions in Tor browser or not? Means is it okay?
[09:14] <x-os> ...oops sorry wrong channel
[09:14] <Guest3843> where am I wrong ?
[09:14] <varunendra> linuxearth, yeah it is okay. But be aware that Tor is meant to provide anonymity, not additional security to the 'Browser'
[09:15] <linuxearth> oh
[09:15] <linuxearth> varunendra: additional security like...?
[09:15] <varunendra> linuxearth, any decent browser on a live session (with no persistence) will be equally good.
[09:15] <linuxearth> varunendra: oh ok
[09:16] <linuxearth> varunendra: additional security like...?
[09:17] <mine> im not new to ubuntu, but new to ubuntu studio, any thoguhts?
[09:17] <ejv> yacc: what do you mean you noticed unauthorized access
[09:17] <somsip> mine: best if you ask a real question, or share your problem...
[09:18] <varunendra> linuxearth, like browser's own security options/patches etc. If a potential intruder/hacker somehow (very difficult in one session if you are careful, but possible) makes their way in your running session, they would have equal control over your browser, be it tor or chromium/ff etc.
[09:18] <Guest3843> after apt-get install grub showing error"E: package 'grub' has no installation candidate
[09:18] <varunendra> linuxearth, I meant chromium/ff *running on a simple live session*
[09:19] <linuxearth> varunendra: ok gotcha got!
[09:19] <yacc> ejv: well, I've noticed a secondary account logging in from a tor exit node, then there is this detail that somebody was trying to heat my home office by running a process called minerd, ...
[09:20] <ejv> yacc: logging in how?
[09:20] <linuxearth> varunendra: and by saying 'simple live session', u probably mean the the session in private browsing, correct?
[09:20] <yacc> ejv: sshd, ...
[09:20] <ejv> yacc: were they able to escalate their privileges to root?
[09:20] <varunendra> linuxearth, no private browsing is very different than live session.
[09:20] <yacc> ejv: the interesting part is, I'd expect the password on that secondary account was to weak, but I've found no password based login.
[09:21] <Malaysianprince> hello everyone!
[09:21] <yacc> ejv: yes, root was penetrated too.
[09:21] <jarope> hello
[09:21] <linuxearth> ok please explain it varunendra
[09:21] <varunendra> linuxearth, live session is related to the OS, when you boot it from a Live CD or USB, not the installed one. Like the Ubuntu Live CD.
[09:21] <ejv> yacc: well do whatever evidence gathering you can, then nuke it completely.
[09:21] <yacc> ejv: I'm currently backing up the filesystem onto hdd and preparing to reinstall.
[09:22] <ejv> yacc: make sure you don't backup the hole/vulnerability that caused it in the first place
[09:22] <linuxearth> varunendra: ok u mean that browsing is the safest? right?
[09:22] <ejv> yacc: why are you not using a firewall?
[09:22] <yacc> ejv: I don't plan to restore the backup beyond manually picking data.
[09:23] <Hiro`> It seems like there's a set of packages that are all messed up on my computer: language-pack-en, language-pack-en-base, locales and libc6. I'm trying to reinstall them or remove them and then install them again, but apt-get just returns errors, saying that they are installed but at the wrong version or, when I try to remove them, saying that they are not installed at all (so can't be removed).
[09:23] <varunendra> linuxearth, as long as it does not have "Persistence" (can't store the changes made during the live session), it is equally safe as the tor browser. Although I've read (haven't verified myself) that the Tor browser comes with good security plugins already installed (and some potentially weak functions disabled). So that may be a plus
[09:23] <yacc> ejv: well, I'll have to evalutate that one again, till now being selective about what services are running has been good enough,..
[09:23] <linuxearth> yeah varunendra
[09:24] <ejv> yacc: if you have any services facing the public internet, you need to be playing defense of some kind
[09:24] <linuxearth> varunendra, i am going and thanks for info man
[09:25] <yacc> ejv: how'd a packet filter would help me if the penetration was probably a guessed password?
[09:25] <letouriste> hello
[09:26] <letouriste> i'm apologize for my poor english but i'm french :)
[09:26] <letouriste> i've got a galaxy note 3 with 4 core  can i install phone ubuntu ?
[09:26] <ejv> yacc: think about it; if you have a firewall (hw or sw) that is only allowing certain traffic from certain origin addresses, then you cannot be attacked using conventional brute force dictionary attacks.
[09:27] <varunendra> !fr | letouriste
[09:27] <letouriste> ty
[09:28] <mark__> RSA key to add in Ubuntu for your laptop ??? anyone explain me
[09:28] <ejv> put some effort into your question
[09:29] <yacc> ejv: considering that password probing nowadays is done slowly and distributed, anyway new install it is, better passwords, less services, perhaps even packet filter, and even more seperations of concerns, sigh.
[09:29] <letouriste> quit
[09:29] <letouriste> exit
[09:29] <letouriste> ?
[09:30] <ejv> yacc: cool
[09:30] <varunendra> letouriste, if you are trying to leave the channel, try /part
[09:31] <madflintsam> I installed Ubuntu 13.10 on my laptop which already has windows 7 installed. I hadn't wanted to mess up the windows 7 MBR in case I decide to remove ubuntu later so I installed grub on the root partition(sda7). Now I don't get a boot menu the system boots directly into windows 7 as if linux doesn't exist
[09:31] <mark__> boss tell me :::Also mail me a RSA key to add in Ubuntu for your laptop, so that I can buy a Sandbox server for you.
[09:31] <ejv> mark__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[09:31] <ejv> enjoy
[09:32] <mark__> ejv: i already have the link but i need the usage of this?
[09:32] <cfhowlett> madflintsam, because the first bootloader it sees is belongs to windows
[09:32] <mark__> why he want the rsa
[09:32] <varunendra> madflintsam, Grub2 doesn't like to be installed in a partition. And the laptop's BIOS will look at the MBR, where there is no info about your Ubuntu installation.
[09:33] <varunendra> madflintsam, if you don't want to install Grub on MBR, try EasyBCD in windows
[09:33] <ejv> mark__: This is not the appropriate place to explain how public and private key pair authentication works; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public-key_cryptography might be what you're looking for.
[09:34] <varunendra> madflintsam, it would be a very good idea to create a System Recovery CD from within windows and keep it safe.... no matter what you try
[09:34] <madflintsam> ok, will try out easyBCD. didn't want to install ubuntu all over again. thank you varunendra and cfhowlett
[09:34] <cfhowlett> madflintsam, ^^^ that
[09:34] <ejv> Also, it's taboo to private message people on Freenode.
[09:34] <madflintsam> I already have a recovery disc varunendra, thank you again
[09:35] <varunendra> np madflintsam :)
[09:36] <Hiro`> mark__: there are free courses on crytography available online. For instance, at Coursera (google "courera crytography").
[09:36] <Hiro`> But spell cryptography correctly.
[09:37] <Hiro`> And Coursera.
[09:37] <mark__> thanks
[09:44] <Hiro`> So, libc6 is supposedly at the newest version, but it breaks locales. Therefore, locales cannot be installed.
[09:44] <ikonia> how does it break locales ?
[09:47] <Hiro`> ikonia: it says that libc6 has unmet dependencies: libc6 : Breaks: locales (< 2.17) but 2.13+git20120306-3 is to be installed.
[09:47] <DamienCassou> hi
[09:47] <ikonia> Hiro`: where are you getting this from - it looks like a PPA/external repo
[09:47] <ikonia> hence the "git" postfix
[09:47] <ikonia> 1info libc6
[09:47] <DamienCassou> Ubuntu backup is not working fine for a few days now. I always get Error 500. Is it working for you?
[09:47] <Hiro`> ikonia: yes, not sure about that.
[09:47] <ikonia> Hiro`: I'd look into that as a matter of ugrency as if that's coming from a PPA your machine is probably screwed
[09:48] <Hiro`> ikonia: okay, how do I find out.
[09:48] <ikonia> Hiro`: have you enabled and PPA's or 3rd party repos ?
[09:49] <Hiro`> I've probably added a couple of PPA's for various bits and pieces.
[09:49] <ikonia> Hiro`: I'd put a lot of money that that is the problem
[09:50] <Hiro`> ikonia: So, the probability that machine is screwed is pretty high?
[09:50] <ikonia> I'd put money on it yes
[09:50] <Hiro`> :-(
[09:50] <Hiro`> Bummer
[09:50] <ikonia> I'd document which PPA's and 3rd party repos you've enabled
[09:51] <Hiro`> How would I go about that?
[09:51] <geirha> Hiro`: To see where a particular package version is coming from, use  apt-cache policy pkgname
[09:53] <jamesarnett> Hello
[09:53] <jamesarnett> anyone chatting in here?
[09:54] <Hiro`> OKay, libc6, installed: 2.17-92+b1, then it has a "version table", three versions listed, first in /var/lib/dpkg/status, second and third what looks like aan ubuntu repo.
[09:54] <ishitva> Greetings everyone ! I want to know how can I copy a folder into /var/www without using sudo again and again ? Can I do it using the graphical interface as well , which will make things a litlle easier for me ?
[09:54] <Seveas> jamesarnett: no, we're all on strike :)
[09:54] <jamesarnett> Seveas: hahahaha Hilarious
[09:54] <Seveas> ishitva: you clould make yourself owner of /var/www and everything in it
[09:54] <ishitva> How should I do it ?
[09:54] <jamesarnett> ishitva: or you can do sudo -i and it will make you root for the duration of the session
[09:55] <Seveas> ishitva: sudo chown -R yourloginnamehere /var/www  # but beware, if your webserver also needs to write to it, that will break things
[09:55] <jamesarnett> ishitva: then when you are done make sure to do quit
[09:55] <ishitva> okay , will then I be able to copy the files and make changes to the files using the graphical interface as well ?
[09:55] <Seveas> ishitva: absolutely
[09:55] <ishitva> okay
[09:56] <ishitva> I tried sudo su
[09:56] <Seveas> Hiro`: the one marked with '***' is the installed one
[09:56] <jamesarnett> ishitva: try sudo -i
[09:56] <ishitva> sure
[09:56] <ishitva> what does that -i option mean ?
[09:56] <jamesarnett> much simpler  and you dont have to change the permissions on everything
[09:57] <ishitva> Oaky
[09:57] <Hiro`> Seveas: that's 2.17-92+b1 0, 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status.
[09:57] <ishitva> Let me try
[09:57] <yacc> How to get rid of the "online user account" dialog  box in 13.10 unity?
[09:58] <ishitva> The paste button in the drop down is still comig to be locked
[09:58] <Hiro`> Locales pulls up nothing installed, candidate 2.13+git20120306-3 and lists the repo as http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/precise/main amd64 Packages
[09:58] <jamesarnett> ishitva: what gui interface are you using?
[09:59] <ishitva> Earlier I was using Gnome
[09:59] <jasef> I have an interesting issue: My Wifi doesn't work in 13.10, it just says 'Wi-Fi is disabled by hardware switch.
[09:59] <ishitva> but later some problem occured and mine shifted back to unity
[09:59] <sacrrie> hello
[10:00] <sacrrie> any one there?
[10:00] <worm`> Hi, what's the best way to disable power saving mode on ubuntu 12.10? I mean forever, so it doesn't come back after reboot
[10:00] <Seveas> hello sacrrie, there are hundreds of people here :)
[10:00] <sacrrie> how to open the resource file of XTerm? just want to enable the alt key
[10:01] <sandman13> does installing KDE on Ubuntu 13.10 messes Unity?
[10:01] <Seveas> sandman13: it shouldn't
[10:01] <sacrrie> when i looked up to the official site of xterm , it says to add a line of code into the resources file
[10:01] <sandman13> Seveas: what about Cinnamon 2.0?
[10:01] <sacrrie> heck,what is it?
[10:02] <sacrrie> i'm gonna google again
[10:02] <Seveas> sacrrie: why use xterm? terminator is much nicer
[10:02] <Hiro`> So I'm guessing that Ubuntu is tying to pull locales from the wrong repo. Is there a way to correct that?
[10:02] <sacrrie> i thought xterm is pretty fast when opening
[10:03] <sacrrie> ok, i will try terminator
[10:03] <kubuntu_user> hi there, I having much trouble with my dvb-s2-usb card. Can somebody help? dmesg looks like the card is loaded correctly and I am able to scan channels but do not get any result. I also compiled media-build-tree from linux.tv
[10:04] <Hiro`> saccrie: "Xresources is a user-level configuration dotfile, typically located at ~/.Xresources."
[10:04] <ishitva> Seveas: How to prevent things from breaking if I chown that group ?
[10:04] <kubuntu_user> w_scan says somethin like: signal ok:         S  f = 12515 kHz H SR = 22000  5/6 0,35  QPSK Info: NIT(actual) filter timeout
[10:04] <Hiro`> From: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/X_resources
[10:04] <Hiro`> If you don't see it, I guess you can just create it.
[10:04] <foo357> Hello, I'v egot a question about apt-get: I think there was some command to upgrade optional/alternative packages. I.e. "apt-get upgrade" doesn't upgrade so there was some other command to apply optional upgrades. This description mignt sound funny.
[10:05] <sacrrie> just create it ?
[10:05] <sacrrie> i 'll try
[10:05] <Seveas> ishitva: depends on what you use. e.g. wordpress needs write access to wp-uploads
[10:05] <ishitva> I am trying to install Bugzilla
[10:06] <Seveas> foo357: I think you are refering to apt-get dist-upgrade. apt-get upgrade will only upgrade packages but not install new dependencies, with dist-upgrade packages new dependencies will be upgraded as well, and it will install those dependencies
[10:07] <Seveas> ishitva: bugzilla also has a directory where it wants to store attachments, so you'll need to make that writable by the webserver
[10:07] <ishitva> okay , so what should I do now ?
[10:08] <Seveas> read the documentation for bugzilla :) (read: no idea, I haven't indstalled bugzilla in ages)
[10:08] <sacrrie> Terminator looks good, but the opening speed is a little slower than xterm
[10:09] <ishitva> Seveas: Okay :P
[10:09] <sacrrie> Hiro`, thanks body
[10:13] <Hiro`> sacrrie: np
[10:16] <Hiro`> So should I throw my laptop away and start again? Is there a way to correct my broken packages problem?
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> Hiro`: why not reinstall, the hardware is not faulty....
[10:17] <foo357> Seveas: thanks, that was it.
[10:17] <Hiro`> ActionParsnip: Just over-exaggerating for effect!
[10:18] <Hiro`> I mean, I'd prefer not to reinstall.
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> Hiro`: what is the issue?
[10:19] <Seveas> Hiro`: I missed the start of the conversation. What's broken?
[10:19] <scrachi> Bonjour
[10:19] <Seveas> bonjour scrachi. On parle anglais ici.
[10:19] <Seveas> !fr
[10:20] <Hiro`> The problem is that I can't install locales because of an unment dependency with libc6.
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> Hiro`: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[10:20] <Seveas> Hiro`: can you pastebin the output of apt-cache policy locales; apt-cache policy libc6; sudo apt-get install locales
[10:20] <Seveas> ActionParsnip: he's on precise
[10:21] <Hiro`> Yeah, one sec
[10:23] <sacrrie> Hiro`,  after creating the Xresources file , problem solved, much obliged!!!
[10:24] <sacrrie> super happy now
[10:24] <Hiro`> Pasted here: http://pastebin.com/TLazebm6
[10:24] <Hiro`> sacrrie: no worries, I've been meaning to do that myself, actually!
[10:24] <DamienCassou> Ubuntu backup with Ubuntu One is not working fine for a few days now. I always get Error 500. Is it working for you?
[10:24] <ishitva> How can I free my port 80 from Open stack ?
[10:24] <ishitva> and associate with Apache ?
[10:24] <antifa> hi guys
[10:25] <Seveas> Hiro`: looks like you installed libc6 from another repo that you have since disabled
[10:25] <cfhowlett> antifa, greetings
[10:25] <antifa> some one has any ideas why can't I install nightingale add ons ?
[10:25] <Hiro`> Seveas: okay, can I re-enable it, or switch to another repo?
[10:25] <Seveas> Hiro`: try this: sudo apt-get install libc6=2.15-0ubuntu10.5
[10:26] <Seveas> that should downgrade to the Ubuntu version
[10:26] <Seveas> it may fail, pastebin output if it does
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> !info locales
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> !info locales precise
[10:27] <Hiro`> Falied: http://pastebin.com/QdyatUwe
[10:28] <madflintsam> hello varunendra, easyBCD did the trick, now typing from ubuntu. thank you again.
[10:28] <ikonia> the magic that is pointless PPA
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> libc6 2.17-92+b1   is a debian package.
[10:28] <ikonia> Hiro`: honestly - I would suggest backup, re-install, don't use PPA's
[10:28] <varunendra> madflintsam, you're welcome :)
[10:28] <ikonia> Hiro`: try to keep it simple
[10:28] <cfhowlett> !cookie|varunendra,
[10:28]  * varunendra nom-nom-nom... :P
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> Hiro`: you have added a Debian package to an Ubuntu box and mangled your deps
[10:29] <Seveas> Hiro`: hmm, looks like you have other problems too. What does 'apt-get -f install' say?
[10:29] <ikonia> I appreciate thats overkill but you've messsed around with the core library for the OS and it will have dependencies, you may find it easier to just re-install to a known safe point and learn the lesson before going forward.
[10:29] <Hiro`> A
[10:29] <ikonia> hang on - this isn't mint is it
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: +1
[10:29] <ikonia> the debian mint repo
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: he has libc6 2.17-92+b1   is a debian package
[10:29] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: also debian-mint
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: that'll do it
[10:30] <Hiro`> Seveas: It says: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[10:30] <Hiro`>
[10:30] <antifa> any one has any idea why this is hallening ? Nightingale could not install the file at
[10:30] <antifa> http://wiki.getnightingale.com/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=addons:birdtune-1.3.8.xpi
[10:30] <antifa> because: Unexpected installation error
[10:30] <antifa> Review the Error Console log for more details.
[10:30] <antifa> -203
[10:31] <Seveas> Hiro`: k, looks like ikonia and ActionParsnip are correct then, you've mangled too many libraries by installing packages from mint. It's recoverable but will take time. You'll need to downgrade/remove many packages. A reinstall may be quicker.
[10:31] <Hiro`> Okay, so I've added a repo from another linux distro, and this has mangled my installed packages.
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> Hiro`: you are either using Mint, or added the Mint PPA to Ubuntu and mangled your OS. I suggest a reintsall
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> Hiro`: yes, reinstall
[10:31] <Seveas> another victim of the annoyance that's mint.
[10:31] <Hiro`> When I first installed Ubuntu, I installed a couple of different desktops for it.
[10:32] <ikonia> Seveas: just PPA annoyance
[10:32] <ikonia> could be $any PPA and the odds are the same result
[10:32] <Hiro`> Okay.
[10:32] <Seveas> ikonia: hmm, not any PPA. I maintain a few that are safe :)
[10:32] <Hiro`> But it seems like sometimes PPAs are necessary to get the right software installed through apt-get.
[10:33] <antifa> Nightingale could not install the file at
[10:33] <antifa> http://wiki.getnightingale.com/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=addons:birdtune-1.3.8.xpi
[10:33] <antifa> because: Unexpected installation error
[10:33] <antifa> Review the Error Console log for more details.
[10:33] <antifa> -203
[10:33] <Seveas> antifa: stop pasting crap in here.
[10:33] <ikonia> Seveas: yes, I'd count that one as "safe" but it really is the exception
[10:33] <cfhowlett> antifa, STOP
[10:33] <ikonia> Hiro`: they are pretty much never nessasary, and if they are the source of the PPA should be checked
[10:33] <Hiro`> I do a lot of programming and this requires installing  lot of software.
[10:33] <antifa> ok ok
[10:33] <cfhowlett> !paste|antifa,
[10:33] <ikonia> Hiro`: all of which should be available in the ubuntu repos or trusted 3rd parties
[10:33] <Seveas> ikonia: well, PPA's can help a lot when you don't want to install lots of things in /usr/local
[10:34] <antifa> that is the error code I am getting
[10:34] <antifa> ok
[10:34] <Seveas> there's so much on CPAN or PyPI that's not packaged or where packages are outdated
[10:34] <ikonia> Seveas: I don't disagree a lot, however %90 of the PPAs are idiots trying to do it,
[10:34] <ikonia> with no thought for the base OS, the file system layout or conflicts
[10:34] <ikonia> or upgrade support
[10:34] <Seveas> well, that too. We should have something like vetted ppa's, but we're going rapidly OT here ;)
[10:34] <Hiro`> So, in the future, should I try to avoid adding PPA and use git or download precompiled binaries . . . ?
[10:34] <ikonia> Seveas: a very old argument which I've lost
[10:35] <ikonia> Hiro`: what software do you need that's not in the ubuntu repos
[10:35] <Seveas> Hiro`: use PPAs with care. Basically never install from PPA's what's available in normal repos
[10:35] <Seveas> so if a PPA ships things like libc6, or unity: avoid!
[10:36] <ikonia> Seveas: and thats the issue average joe does'nt know it ships libc as a dependency for "super cool binary version 1.1"
[10:36] <Seveas> well, you can see which packages are in a PPA
[10:36] <ikonia> Seveas: and those guys should be banned from running a PPA
[10:36] <ikonia> Seveas: most do'nt know how/don't understand the implications
[10:36] <Hiro`> Well, I can't think of aything off the top of my head. I can remember having to install Python3.3, which wasn't avaiable for precise from the repos. Someone added it to a PPA and we installed from that.
[10:36] <ikonia> Hiro`: right, so python is used a lot in ubuntu - why would you need 3.3 ?
[10:36] <ikonia> more so if you are writing apps to be used by ubuntu
[10:37] <Hiro`> For a course, which required 3.3.
[10:37] <Seveas> ikonia: python 3.3 isn't that bad from a PPA *if* it doesn't change the /usr/bin/python3 symlink
[10:37] <ikonia> Seveas: and there is thee failure..
[10:37] <Seveas> but yeah, caveat ppaor
[10:38] <Hiro`> It was a bit of a pain actually.
[10:38] <ikonia> Hiro`: it seems unlikley a course would rquire 3.3 as it's still very new, eg: 3.4 only came out a week or so ago
[10:38] <Hiro`> Then I had 2.7, 3.2 nd 3.3.
[10:38] <ikonia> it's more likley it's 3.X - in which case 3.2 would work fine and it ships with ubuntu
[10:38] <Hiro`> Well, it *did* require 3.3.
[10:38] <Seveas> Hiro`: next time it may be better to use an Ubuntu version which ships 3.3 (such as 13.10), but hindsight is always 20/20 :)
[10:38] <Hiro`> No point arguing about this!
[10:39] <Hiro`> Yeah, damint!
[10:39] <Seveas> ikonia: actually, a requirement for 3.3 may not be that unexpected, it fixed a lot of things
[10:39] <Hiro`> Okay, so what is the best stable Ubuntu to upgrade to un your opinion?
[10:39] <Seveas> basically, I consider python 3.0/3.1/3.2 almost unusable for serious work
[10:40] <ikonia> Hiro`: not an upgrade, a clean install
[10:40] <ikonia> !info python
[10:40] <ikonia> 1info python
[10:40] <Seveas> I like 13.10, it's recent and (at least for me) super stable. You may be able to upgrade from your slightly mangled box, but no guarantees
[10:40] <ikonia> 2.7.5 in saucy ??
[10:40] <ikonia> !info python3
[10:40] <Hiro`> Right,sorry,  new install, but which version?
[10:40] <ikonia> ahh there we go, 13.10 ships with 3.3.2
[10:40] <Seveas> for new installs, definitely go for the latest
[10:41] <Hiro`> IIRC, autograder function required some stuff from 3.3.
[10:41] <Hiro`> Seveas: 13.10 -- are you on LTS?
[10:42] <Seveas> 13.10 is not an LTS
[10:42] <Hiro`> Okay.
[10:42] <Seveas> LTS is overrated
[10:45] <Hiro`> Right, good to know.  Guys, you've been a great help.
[10:45] <Seveas> Hiro`: well, try the upgrade first, it may just work
[10:46] <zetheroo> Whenever I mount a samba share I am asked for my sudo password ... is there a way to stop this behaviour?
[10:47] <ejv> stable? 12.04.4 LTS or Debian 7.0. I'd stay away from everything else.
[10:47] <ikonia> change the sudo rules
[10:47] <ikonia> zetheroo: how are you mounting it ?
[10:47] <zetheroo> ikonia: via nautilus
[10:48] <ikonia> zetheroo: that should be user space so should not ask you for sudo passwords
[10:48] <zetheroo> ikonia: yes, I am not sure why it's asking for it ...
[10:48] <ikonia> zetheroo: explain how you are trying to mount it
[10:48] <ikonia> zetheroo: walk me through the process
[10:49] <zetheroo> ok
[10:49] <Hiro`> Seveas: what upgrade?
[10:50] <Hiro`> ejv: really?
[10:50] <linuxearth> where is the option for password protecting -- libre office doc and kwrite?
[10:50] <zetheroo> I open Nautilus, go to Browse Network > Windows Network > MT > Fileserver > smb share
[10:50] <ikonia> linuxearth: on what distro as you are asking in multiple distro channels
[10:51] <Rory> linuxearth: You want to save a document that requires a password to open, using Libreoffice?
[10:51] <ejv> Hiro`: if you meant stable in the enterprise, commercial sense, yes, stay away from the 13+ branch entirely. pick something that's held up against the test of time.
[10:51] <Rory> linuxearth:  File –> Save. On the Save dialog box, check the box at the bottom left to Save with password.
[10:51] <zetheroo> Ikonia: weird .. this time I opened the share and no request for password ...
[10:51] <tomz123> Is there any way I can record which user/users read a specific file?
[10:51] <zetheroo> ikonia: maybe I only have to put it in once after booting up!?
[10:51] <ikonia> zetheroo: yeah, sudo credenticals will be cached for 15 minutes
[10:52] <zetheroo> ah
[10:52] <cfhowlett> linuxearth, librewriter>file>save with password
[10:52] <ikonia> zetheroo: just testing it now,
[10:52] <Hiro`> ejv: I want to minimise the amount of stuff like this that I might have to do with it.
[10:52] <zetheroo> ikonia: I should mention that the first time I mounted the shares I have to enter my domain credentials
[10:53] <zetheroo> don't know if that makes a diff
[10:53] <Hiro`> Not sure what you mean by commercial, enterprise sense.
[10:53] <ikonia> zetheroo: that's not unreasonable as you are authenticating against a domain - so you'll need to tell the domain your credenticals
[10:53] <zetheroo> yes
[10:53] <ejv> "stable" means different things, to different people.
[10:53] <ikonia> zetheroo: it's the sudo password that's concerning me
[10:53] <zetheroo> but then after that it also asked me for my sudo pass
[10:53] <zetheroo> right
[10:53] <Hassan_> plase help me
[10:53] <Hassan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206094
[10:59] <Hiro`> ejv: so you reckon, stay with 12.04 LTS?
[11:00] <linuxearth> where is the option for password protecting -- libre office doc
[11:00] <cfhowlett> linuxearth, librewriter>file>save with password
[11:00] <linuxearth> oh i was disconnect, please repeat
[11:03] <tomz123> Is there nothing I can do?
[11:03] <tomz123> Is there any way I can record which user/users read a specific file?
[11:03] <ikonia> tomz123: there are audit tools, but that level of auiditing would be quite serious
[11:04] <cfhowlett> !auditi
[11:04] <tomz123> I'll leave it then
[11:09] <rosco_y> I want to partition a second hard disk, and I'm wondering "what is super-standard"?
[11:10] <jatt> / in one partition /home in another
[11:15] <ikonia> zetheroo: I've just allowed my sudo credentials to expire, and mounted a windows share exactly as you, I got prompted for my domain credentials, but not sudo
[11:15] <ikonia> zetheroo: I've just verified this on ubuntu 12.04, 13.10 and Fedora 10
[11:15] <ikonia> 20
[11:15] <ikonia> zetheroo: it seems it's quite common across gnome in general and ubuntu
[11:16] <ikonia> zetheroo: there must be something broken on your setup, or the sudo prompt was for something else.
[11:19] <Guest3843> hello every one is there any safe way to remove older version ubuntu from grub menu
[11:19] <Guest3843> ?
[11:21] <varunendra> Guest3843, you mean the kernel versions right? Or did you have multiple installs of Ubuntu?
[11:22] <krishna_> join 123
[11:23] <krishna_> how to download and use uc browser in ubuntu
[11:25] <krishna_> hhi
[11:25] <Guest3843> varunendra, I have install 10.10 and 12.04 so I want to remove 10.10.
[11:26] <cfhowlett> krishna_, uc browser appears to be for cell phones
[11:27] <geirha> Guest3843: You can, but they'll reappear next time a kernel update comes along
[11:28] <krishna_> how to install hamradio software in ubuntu???
[11:28] <Guest3843> varunendra, in grub menu list is longer so I want to remove option in grub .My grub should only two one ubuntu 12.04 and windows
[11:28] <cfhowlett> krishna_ from the software center
[11:29] <geirha> Guest3843: update-grub looks through all your harddrives and generates the menu with all the OSes it found. So if you remove the partiton with 10.10 on it, then run update-grub, it should disappear from the menu.
[11:29] <krishna_> ok cfhowlett, download from that but not working
[11:30] <cfhowlett> krishna_, name of the program?
[11:30] <varunendra> Guest3843, exactly what geirha said above. If you have removed the older Ubuntu installation, the command "sudo update-grub" will automatically fix it for you.
[11:32] <Guest3843> varunendra, actually I have install 10.10 and 12.04 too.
[11:32] <Guest3843> varunendra, I want to remove 10.10 from my system.
[11:33] <krishna_> cfhowlett, program name is gpspk
[11:33] <Guest3843> varunendra, I have given above command and it is complete now.
[11:34] <varunendra> Guest3843, from within 12.04?
[11:34] <cfhowlett> krishna_, gpspk doesn't show in my software center or on google
[11:34] <Guest3843> varunendra, yes from 12.04
[11:34] <varunendra> Guest3843, and is 10.10 on a different partition?
[11:35] <Guest3843> varunendra, yes
[11:36] <varunendra> Guest3843, then probably the safest option is to install Gparted (sudo apt-get install gparted), run it and delete the partition that holds 10.10. Then run the "sudo update-grub" command again.
[11:36] <krishna_> sorry Mr.cfhowlett,pgm name is gpsk31
[11:36] <varunendra> Guest3843, you can then use the empty space for either Ubuntu or windows, as you wish.
[11:37] <cfhowlett> krishna_, try a command line install: sudo apt-get install gpsk31
[11:39] <Guest3843> varunendra, sudo apt-get install gparted showing unable to locate package
[11:40] <varunendra> Guest3843, is the Ubuntu machine connected to internet?
[11:40] <Guest3843> varunendra, sorry just connecting
[11:41] <varunendra> :)
[11:41] <varunendra> Guest3843, you may also have to run "sudo apt-get update" once..
[11:42] <Guest3843> varunendra, okay
[11:42] <Hassan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206094
[11:42] <Hassan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206094
[11:42] <Hassan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206094
[11:42] <Hassan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206094
[11:42] <Hassan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206094
[11:42] <Hassan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206094
[11:42] <Hassan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206094
[11:42] <Hassan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206094
[11:42] <Hassan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206094
[11:42] <Hassan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206094
[11:42] <Hassan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206094
[11:42] <Hassan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206094
[11:42] <Rubas> Stop spamming Hassan_
[11:42] <Hassan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206094
[11:42] <Hassan_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206094
[11:42] <krishna_> ok cfhowlett, now i am having ubuntu11.10 but i need to install ubuntu12.04 how to install it
[11:42] <Rubas> Thanks DJones
[11:43] <Seveas> thanks DJones, I was half a second away from !o-ps :)
[11:43] <cfhowlett> Hassan_, that there is the exact way to get ignored --- oh wait,
[11:43] <Guest3843> varunendra, updating taking some time.
[11:43] <DJones> No probs, I'm sure he'll be back, seems to be a frustrated user wanting support, saw the question about an hour ago
[11:43] <cfhowlett> DJones, +1
[11:44] <Hassan_> help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206094
[11:44] <cfhowlett> Hassan_, nope
[11:44] <Seveas> Hassan_: get out.
[11:44] <yacc> Anyway to access a ecryptfs home directory on an external device?
[11:44] <Hassan_> Ok !
[11:45] <Seveas> yacc: you should be able to mount it if you have the correct passphrase
[11:45] <varunendra> Guest3843, yeah, that's normal. With only default repositories enabled, it shouldn't be more than 20 MB though
[11:45] <johnnydevil> Hey all
[11:45] <beep_odx> hey hi guys
[11:45] <Guest3843> varunendra, its 90% done
[11:46] <Guest3843> varunendra, it again showing 65%
[11:47] <yacc> Seveas: and how do I do that?
[11:47] <varunendra> Guest3843, must be showing for individual repositories. Have you also PPAs in your repositories or is it a fresh install with defaults?
[11:47] <rosco_y> Do I have to edit fstab to automatically mount a second hard drive that I want to use as a file store?
[11:47] <yacc> Seveas: passphrase = password?
[11:47] <Guest3843> varunendra, its fresh install now
[11:48] <Seveas> yacc: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1508111
[11:48] <varunendra> rosco_y, yes
[11:48] <Seveas> err, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering%20Your%20Data%20Manually
[11:48] <rosco_y> varunendra: ty
[11:48] <Seveas> rosco_y: if it's a USB drive, it should automatically be mounted when you plug it in. For internal drives, editing /etc/fstab is correct
[11:56] <Guest3843> varunendra, when i update grub it showing found 10.04 now. what is this?
[11:58] <varunendra> Guest3843, have you deleted its partition?
[11:59] <Guest3843> varunendra, no
[11:59] <Guest3843> varunendra, how can i do?
[12:00] <varunendra> Guest3843, install gparted > run it > Identify the 10.10 partition (this is important, so you don't end up deleting wrong partition) > delete it.
[12:01] <Guest3843> varunendra, gparted shows partition of 10.10?
[12:02] <varunendra> Guest3843, it is a partitioning tool. It'll show all available partitions. You'll have to make sure that you can clearly identify the target (10.10) partition in it. By it's Label, size.... whatever makes it different.
[12:04] <Guest3843> varunendra, when i give command sudo apt-get install gparted it showing unable to lock administration directory
[12:04] <Guest3843> varunendra, is another process using it.
[12:04] <varunendra> Guest3843, means you have another program running that has the lock. Is the "Software Update" or "Ubuntu Software Center" open?
[12:05] <Guest3843> varunendra, yes
[12:05] <varunendra> which one Guest3843 ?
[12:05] <Guest3843> varunendra, after complete i will do.
[12:05] <varunendra> yup
[12:11] <teo__> ATTENZIONE: Non e' stata intercettata la versione originale di lynx.
[12:11] <teo__> Questo script e' in grado di funzionare sono con lynx e non links2.
[12:12] <DJones> !it | teo__
[12:21] <Guest3843> varunendra, thanks for reply i will try tater
[12:23] <varunendra> Guest3843, no problem, just make sure NOT to run "update-grub" from within 10.10, or the system would be unbootable when you delete its partition.
[12:24] <Tom11>  varunendra:i am trying to dual boot mint and puppy linux using grub boot loader, but its giving me errors,
[12:25] <varunendra> Tom11, I'm not a dual boot expert, just know the basics, and it goes beyond basics when you talk about anything other than Windows (upto 7) and Ubuntu :P
[12:26] <varunendra> Tom11, already tried #mint ?
[12:26] <arcsky> how do i test if my hdd and mem works perfect? from cli
[12:26] <yacc> Any idea how to create a mini.iso based USB stick. The usb-creator does not work for it.
[12:26] <varunendra> (if there is such a channel that is..)
[12:26] <WestJ> Hello guys
[12:26] <cfhowlett> yacc, try unetbootin
[12:26] <yacc> unetbootin?
[12:26] <cfhowlett> !mint
[12:27] <varunendra> arcsky, memory test can only be reliable when you test it BEFORE booting your OS
[12:27] <yacc> cfhowlett: I don't want to use Linux Mint.
[12:27] <yacc> cfhowlett: I want to use a text based installer
[12:27] <WestJ> Does anyone have a sure-fire fix for Intel/AMD DYNAMIC Switching Graphics on notebooks? Or am I doomed to forever hate AMD's driver developers?
[12:27] <cfhowlett> yacc, that wasn't for you - see unetbootin
[12:28] <Tom11> varunendra:i am trying to put both mint and puppy linux in same hdd under different partitions and want to have both os, i want to dual boot it.
[12:28] <yacc> cfhowlett: the new installer has a number of issues with LVM/LUKS => e.g. I'm missing the LVM options while creating partitions, and so on.
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> yacc: the mini iso installs in text mode
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> yacc: as does the alternate ISO
[12:28] <yacc> ActionParsnip: there is no alternate ISO anymore for 13.10
[12:29] <yacc> ActionParsnip: and the mini.iso does not boot if I just dd it onto the USB stick.
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> yacc: did you try unetbootin?
[12:29] <yacc> ActionParsnip: what's unetbootin
[12:29] <cfhowlett> !unetbootin
[12:30] <varunendra> Tom11, I have zero experience (and awareness) about Puppy, but the last time I heard about it, it probably used Grub legacy. So which one have you installed first which one later?
[12:30] <yacc> ActionParsnip: Well, that's a recursive issue => I'd had to install Windows first
[12:30] <yacc> ActionParsnip: No Windows here around.
[12:30] <Tom11> varunendra: i have installed puppy linux first, then mint.
[12:31] <varunendra> Tom11, despite Mint being Ubuntu based, this is not the right place to discuss that. Not because we don't want to, but because we can't help much with what we don't know enough about.
[12:31] <yacc> ActionParsnip: as I said the mini.iso does not work when dd-ed onto the disk.
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> yacc: you can install unetbootin in Linux and Mac
[12:31] <yacc> ActionParsnip: wine?
[12:31] <Tom11> varunendra: no problem, anyways thanks for the help.
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> yacc: no, it runs on both Windows and Mac, so if you have either you can make a bootable usb using that
[12:32] <varunendra> Tom11, either try a Mint Linux channel, or post your problem in detail at ubuntuforums.org (under "Other OS" section).
[12:32] <yacc> ActionParsnip: I have no Windows nor Macs, but I see apt-get seems to know it.
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> yacc: how are you chatting now? phone?
[12:33] <arcsky> varunendra: ok and hdd?
[12:33] <jasef> What's the best way to downgrade a package? I'm trying to downgrade network-manager to the 13.04 version
[12:33] <yacc> ActionParsnip: suspect Ubuntu install
[12:33] <PinkSwing> Good morning. I am trying to install the latest stable release version of Audacity (currently 2.0.5) on Ubuntu 12.04. The version in the Ubuntu repositories is 2.0.0. Audacity maintain a nightly build PPA but I want the stable release not nightly builds. So it seems installing from source is the answer. I am following the instructions at http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/CompilingAudacityForBeginners#simple but when I come to "sudo apt-
[12:33] <yacc> ActionParsnip: suspect as in I need a fresh install ;)
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> yacc: can you not install unetbootin on that?
[12:33] <PinkSwing> yacc: In Synaptic you can force a version by right clicking
[12:34] <yacc> ActionParsnip: I just did, I had the impression it's Win/Mac only.
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> !info unetbootin | yacc
[12:34] <PinkSwing> Sorry. That was for someone else.
[12:34] <PinkSwing> jasef: In Synaptic you can force a version by right clicking
[12:34] <jasef> PinkSwing: I'm currently stuck in command line.
[12:35] <varunendra> arcsky, depends on what filesystems you have on the HDD. If it is all linux EXT, you may simply run "sudo fsck -f" from a live session. If it has windows partitions, you must check them with windows "chkdsk" or something similar. Scanning the disk for errors is all you can check.
[12:37] <varunendra> arcsky, apart from physical/logical errors on the disk/filesystem, the general performance depends on general maintenance. Which means a little knowledge and a lot of habits :)
[12:38] <PinkSwing> jasef: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138284/how-to-downgrade-a-package-via-apt-get
[12:38] <jasef> PinkSwing: Thanks! :)
[12:44] <yacc> Sigh, mini.iso written via unetbootin to an USB stick is not recognized by my laptop as boot media, it boots straight to the hdd :(
[12:53] <yacc> Any way to change the VG name created by the GUI installer?
[12:54] <ikonia> vgrename
[12:54] <yacc> ikonia: will the laptop still after vgrename?
[12:54] <ikonia> yes
[12:56] <dupingping> Hi
[12:56] <dupingping> How can i create a proxy relayer in ubuntu13.10?
[12:57] <dupingping> this proxy relayer with SOCKS, SOCKS5 and HTTP.
[12:57] <yacc> ikonia: well, it boots into the initramdisk, so no, vgrename after the install is not a recommended thing, I guess.
[12:58] <ikonia> yacc: should be
[12:58] <yacc> ikonia: well, vgrename && reboot is not.
[12:58] <ikonia> errr you don't just do that
[12:58] <ikonia> things will be referencing it by name/uuid
[12:59] <ikonia> you've just changed it
[12:59] <ikonia> so you need to update things referencing
[12:59] <yacc> ikonia: it complains that it cannot find oldname.
[12:59] <ikonia> of course,
[12:59] <ikonia> you've not told it about the new name
[12:59] <yacc> ikonia: yeah, that's why I asked.
[12:59] <ikonia> you just asked how to change the volume group name
[12:59] <yacc> ikonia: in the GUI installer
[12:59] <yacc> ikonia: :)
[13:00] <yacc> ikonia: just out of curiosity, where would I need to change the stuff after vgrename?
[13:00] <ikonia> anywhere thats referencing it, eg: grub, fstab,
[13:03] <yacc> ikonia: well, let's see if I can get the stupid thing to install on the new mSATA, then accessing the old install under the new name is not much of an issue :)
[13:04] <jasef> I'm running Ubuntu 13.10; I've booted an old kernel for testing, and I keep getting 'No session found for uid 1000' when I try to connect to a wifi network.
[13:04] <jasef> Any ideas?
[13:04] <ikonia> you've changed your user that used to be uid 1000 ?
[13:05] <jasef> ikonia, no; the same happens for any user.
[13:05] <jasef> ikonia, I haven't changed any uids.
[13:05] <ikonia> what's complaining about now session ?
[13:05] <ikonia> does it always say uid 1000
[13:06] <jasef> It's when I connect to a wifi network.
[13:06] <jasef> And it says the uid of whatever user is logged in.
[13:06] <zetheroo> ikonia: ok .. thanks ... do you know how to get a smbcred file to work for the purpose of mounting the samba shares via fstab?
[13:06] <yacc> How do I create a LVM in the partition editor in the GUI installer?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: http://anothersysadmin.wordpress.com/2007/12/17/howto-mount-samba-shares-in-fstab-using-a-credential-file/
[13:07] <yacc> I can create a LUKS container => but there seems to be no way to create the VG/LVs.
[13:07] <ikonia> yacc: you have to have a volume group defined before it will allow it
[13:07] <ikonia> luks....ah, that will make it more complex
[13:08] <yacc> ikonia: I'm talking GUI Ubuntu Installer => where do I create the VG before?
[13:08] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: but there is no mention of domain there
[13:08] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: I have already done this pretty much ... but am getting permission denied errors
[13:09] <ice9> after I installed gnome-shell lxde and then removed them and rebooted, now in unity the mouse cursor disappeared however it's there I can't blindly move it and click things but it's not visible
[13:09] <yacc> ikonia: the old text mode installer you assigned some partitions into a PV role and then it allowed you to create LVs in the next step, ...
[13:09] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: the fields I have in my smbcred file are username, password and domain ... but still no luck
[13:10] <yacc> ikonia: LUKS does not make it more complex, I cannot create a LVM manually in the GUI installer without LUKS either, no user interface there to do the deed.
[13:11] <dupingping> How can i create a proxy relayer in ubuntu13.10?
[13:11] <dupingping> this proxy relayer with SOCKS, SOCKS5 and HTTP.
[13:12] <dupingping> Plz, help me.
[13:12] <yacc> https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/installation-guide/amd64/ch06s03.html#di-partition <= that's bullshit, that talks about the text mode installer that is not available anymore, ...
[13:13] <ikonia> yacc: luks does make it more complex, but if you think not, so be it and good luck
[13:14] <yacc> ikonia: the manual partitioning on the 13.10 GUI installer has no way that I can see to create a LVM VG => that's the issue. I can create the LUKS PV. But I cannot create the LVM VG with or without LUKS.
[13:15] <ikonia> does the installer actually support non-luks volume groups /
[13:16] <yacc> ikonia: the issue is that the installer seems to have no LVM "UI controls". => the automatic setup (which is wrong in this context) automatically selects LVM if you select LUKS.
[13:16] <ikonia> yacc: right, so the answer to my question is "probably no"
[13:17] <yacc> ikonia: what's wrong => with a SSD and LUKS you certainly want to leave space unused, to help the poor beast with garbage collection.
[13:17] <ikonia> yacc: what ?
[13:17] <yacc> ikonia: Seems like the 13.10 supports LVM/LUKS only in fully automatic mode, always using ubuntu-vg as VG, and so on.
[13:18] <yacc> ikonia: LUKS (by design) precludes the SSD from TRIM support => so it might make sense to leave say 20-40GB unused so the SSD has a bigger buffer for garbage collection.
[13:18] <ikonia> yacc: buffer for garbage collection ??? what are you talking about
[13:19] <yacc> ikonia: SSDs. Look up the internals, "garbage collection" == "making overwriteable NAND flash blocks available" => part of all modern SSDs.
[13:20] <ikonia> yacc: I know what garbage collection is, but what you've said makes no sense
[13:20] <yacc> ikonia: considering that the difference between a good and a bad SSD is how it's controller handles garbage collection, ...
[13:21] <ikonia> yacc: I'm aware of how an SSD works, but what you said about leaving space for garbage collection makes no sense
[13:22] <Guest6255> fstrim would help
[13:22] <yacc> ikonia: it makes sense, if the controller knows that the space is empty. It's basically "user-visible" overprovisioning.
[13:22] <ikonia> yacc: no, it makes no sense
[13:23] <del1> hello
[13:23] <yacc> ikonia: why not?
[13:23] <ikonia> yacc: because it doesn't make sense, "over provisioning" for "garbage collection" ?????
[13:24] <ikonia> yacc: carry on and waste your disk if you feel it adds value,
[13:24] <del1> is there any opensource free monitoring software which works on client server basis, and all the clients will countinuously send the status messages to main host for further processing.
[13:24] <iceroot> del1: nagios
[13:24] <del1> alternate to mont m/monit
[13:25] <del1> iceroot, ok. will check it out. thanks.
[13:25] <iceroot> del1: i would say nagios is the standard application for monitoring solutions
[13:25] <Vivekananda> hi everyone
[13:26] <Vivekananda> I added added iso to multiboot but dont know how toremove one ?
[13:26] <del1> iceroot, ok
[13:26] <Vivekananda> can anyone gimme an idea
[13:26] <del1> Vivekananda, you mean dd to pendrive?
[13:27] <Vivekananda> yes I used this http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/  as suggested by people here
[13:27] <yacc> anyway, the partitioning via LUKS/LVM in the automatic mode also failed.
[13:31] <varikonniemi> is there some way to get a tooltip popup in ubuntu 12.04 that shows file size etc.
[13:35] <yacc> Funny, the installers defaults to ecryptfs even with LUKS/LVM ;)
[13:35] <del1> Vivekananda, so why not just connect the pendrive and delete the specific image ?
[13:37] <Vivekananda> yes going to do that
[13:41] <zetheroo> I cannot get the samba shares mounted via terminal or in fstab
[13:41] <ikonia> zetheroo: explain ?
[13:41] <zetheroo> no matter what command/options I use I get: mount error(13): Permission denied
[13:42] <ikonia> zetheroo: show me your mount command
[13:42] <zetheroo> but the credentials work via nautolus
[13:42] <Vivekananda> I used this http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/  to get iso in
[13:42] <Vivekananda> how do I remove an iso :(
[13:42] <zetheroo> ikonia: last command I tried was "sudo mount -t cifs //server-name/sharename /mnt/mntdir -o credentials=.mycredentials,sec=ntlmssp"
[13:43] <ikonia> zetheroo: ok, so I'd suggest getting rid of the credentials options, and manually entering them first
[13:43] <ikonia> zetheroo: also nautiluse will be mounting with fuse, not cifs
[13:43] <ikonia> zetheroo: so there is differences
[13:43] <zetheroo> ikonia: I also mount -t cifs //tank/projekte/ /mnt/projekte/ -o username=user@domain,password=*****,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777"
[13:44] <zetheroo> ikonia: sorry, mean to say "I also did: ....."
[13:44] <ikonia> zetheroo: your using sudo right ?
[13:44] <varunendra> Vivekananda, are you using MultiSystem?
[13:45] <zetheroo> and I also tried "mount -t cifs //tank/projekte /mnt/projekte/ -o username=domain\username,password=*****"
[13:45] <zetheroo> ikonia: all as root
[13:45] <ikonia> the root user is locked on ubuntu
[13:45] <Vivekananda> varunendra: hii good to see you. Yes I used it to create the dvd but now dont know how to delete it
[13:45] <zetheroo> ikonia: how do you mean?
[13:45] <ikonia> zetheroo: the root account is locked, you should not be "root"
[13:46] <zetheroo> ikonia: well I "unlock" it ;)
[13:46] <yacc> ikonia: ok, where specifically do I need to change the VG group to keep the box booting? => grep -r ubuntu-vg /etc gives only hits in /etc/lvm
[13:46] <varunendra> Vivekananda, assuming you have installed it on Ubuntu, run it again while the pen drive is connected. There is an "Uninstall" button on its GUI. Select the ISO in its list (it will automatically detect the installed ones) and click the Uninstall button
[13:46] <ikonia> yacc: I explained to you earlier
[13:47] <zetheroo> ikonia: I am used to working in root ... as I work in root on all our servers ...
[13:47] <Vivekananda> hmm
[13:47] <halyna> quit
[13:47] <Vivekananda> the uninstall on selection starts to uninstall multisystem instead
[13:47] <yacc> ikonia: and I'm asking now where these would be explicitly, because neither /etc (beside /etc/lvm) nor /boot mention ubuntu-vg, if I believe grep -r
[13:47] <Vivekananda> varunendra:
[13:47] <ikonia> yacc: re-read what I told you earlier, I explained what it will reference and gave 2 examples
[13:48] <varunendra> Vivekananda, it's quite some time since I used it. I'm describing by memory.. But is the pen drive detected? And the ISOs on it?
[13:48] <yacc> ikonia: and I just told you that neither /etc nor /boot contain the VG name when I grep for them.
[13:55] <Vivekananda> varunendra: yes both
[13:55] <Vivekananda> I am trying to install to vbox but says usb not detected
[13:56] <yacc> reboot
[13:56] <yacc> oops, sorry.
[13:56] <yacc> two keyboards on a desk lead to such oopses :(
[13:57] <varunendra> Vivekananda, booting, or even detecting USB in VBox is a different issue. Even if the USB is bootable, VBox may not detect or boot from it.
[13:58] <varunendra> By the way, Vivekananda I just noticed that the author has also provided an Ubuntu installer for YUMI now. (not that I'm now recommending to install that instead ;) )
[14:03] <ice9> global menu items in all apps are inactive! any idea?
[14:04] <Rory> ice9: Does this persist after logging off and on again? Does it always happen? What Ubuntu version?
[14:04] <RonnieS> Can anyone hint me in a direction as to when or if php will be updated on 12.04 LT ??
[14:05] <hitsujiTMO> !latest | RonnieS
[14:05] <Rory> RonnieS: It's highly unlikely new major version will be available in main update repository. What version do you require?
[14:05] <ice9> Rory: yes, it happened after installed gnome-shell I think, I'm on Ubuntu 13.10
[14:06] <Rory> ice9: Is this in the Unity desktop environment or gnome shell? Also what do you mean by "inactive" ?
[14:06] <RonnieS> @Rory atm it uses php 5.3.* which is end of life as soon php 5.6 is out.. which is.. any day now
[14:06] <Rory> RonnieS: There's a new Ubuntu LTS coming out in April, probably better off waiting til then
[14:06] <ice9> Rory: in unity,  the items are there but un-selectable; I removed gnome-shell and problem remains
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Rory: unity is a shell, not a desktop ;)
[14:06] <hitsujiTMO> RonnieS: if you want a later implementation of PHP either use 13.10, or use a PPA
[14:06] <RonnieS> Okay, Thanks for the answer Rory, i have been looking for answers for that in a long time
[14:07] <RonnieS> Considered using PPA
[14:07] <RonnieS> But it sucks to have a LTS with a php version that will be come insecure as there are no more security updates for 5.3
[14:08] <Rory> ice9: Do you have another user account you can try, to see if the problem only affects your user? You cn use the guest user for example
[14:09] <RonnieS> Thanks for the answers though =] have a nice day
[14:09] <Rory> ActionParsnip: A better way to phrase it would be "Did you select Ubuntu Desktop or Gnome Shell from the login screen?"
[14:09] <OerHeks> RonnieS, php 5.5.9 in this ppa for precise 12.04 lts >> https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5
[14:09] <hitsujiTMO> RonnieS: With 14.04 just around the corner its not a massive issue. LTS is aimed at longterm stable setups so having the PHP version update mid release can break some web apps. https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5 is prob the best PPA to use for a later PHP implementation
[14:10] <RonnieS> DerHeks and can i use the PPA without having to read the source?
[14:10] <RonnieS> securly?
[14:10] <Rory> RonnieS: http://askubuntu.com/questions/109404/how-do-i-install-latest-php-in-supported-ubuntu-versions-like-5-4-x-in-ubuntu-1
[14:10] <Rory> RonnieS: There's always risk in using a PPA, but that one is pretty widely used
[14:10] <RonnieS> I guess i will have to compile myself
[14:11] <Rory> RonnieS: If it's critical, why not use Ubuntu 13.10?
[14:11] <RonnieS> Rory it is not critical, it is common sense not to have such a old version of php
[14:11] <RonnieS> imo
[14:11] <Qache> dzien dobry
[14:11] <Rory> RonnieS: Linux distros (apart from rolling ones) don't tend to just update major versions of applications like that as a rule
[14:12] <Rory> RonnieS: Especially stuff like php/apache which could massively break a deployment
[14:12] <RonnieS> I am unsure how you see that as breakage
[14:12] <Vivekananda> rebooted
[14:12] <Rory> RonnieS: You are under the impression that the obvious default behaviour ought to be "always have the latest upstream version"
[14:13] <RonnieS> no no
[14:13] <Vivekananda> varunendra: if usb cannot be detected then how will I test it ?
[14:13] <Vivekananda> :(
[14:13] <RonnieS> but a end of life ...
[14:13] <Rory> RonnieS: Whereas the situation as it stands is "Release security updates for the version we shipped with"
[14:13] <hitsujiTMO> RonnieS: commands become deprecated/obsolete in major updates so sites fail that use said commands after upgrades
[14:13] <RonnieS> okay
[14:13] <zetheroo> ikonia: any ideas about the samba issue?
[14:14] <varunendra> Vivekananda, I think two things are needed - 1) VBox Extension Pack must be installed to enable USB2 compatibility, 2) You must be a member of "vboxusers" group
[14:14] <RonnieS> =] have a nice one
[14:15] <Vivekananda> varunendra: I used the iso directly and now vbox tells me that my bios might need an upgrade
[14:15] <Vivekananda> I will have to check my current bios version and the available version
[14:16] <varunendra> Vivekananda, means the VM's BIOS version or the physical computer's BIOS?
[14:16] <Vivekananda> Well the error came up on the VM
[14:16] <Vivekananda> so not sure which but the 64 bit booted up fine.
[14:16] <Vivekananda> so then should I now delete multisystems and just use one
[14:16] <CYR4N0> does anyone know where the proxy settings are saved when you enter them in during a minimal ubuntu install with the mini install cd?
[14:17] <varunendra> Vivekananda, is it that you booted 64 bit on a 32 bit VM?
[14:17] <Vivekananda> owww hmm I am not sure
[14:17] <Vivekananda> I just downloaded the vm from the repos and I have installed a 32 bit
[14:17] <Vivekananda> ubuntu now !
[14:18] <varunendra> Vivekananda, the VBox version will be same as your Host OS, but the VM (virtual Machine) architecture is what you choose while creating it.
[14:18] <Vivekananda> let me check
[14:18] <ikonia> zetheroo: I'd strip it down to the minimum options and work it through, make sure the cifs kernel module is loaded
[14:18] <varunendra> s/version/arch
[14:19] <Vivekananda> says : name : my name  and OS Type : ubuntu 64 bit
[14:19] <aliomid730_> is there anyone to help to install smokeping on ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[14:19] <varunendra> Vivekananda, and is running now? Then it is obviously a 64 bit VM :)
[14:20] <Vivekananda> yes not running but in the process of installing
[14:20] <Vivekananda> I will install fully to make sure
[14:20] <Vivekananda> but if it instals then why is multiboot glitching
[14:20] <Vivekananda> also here :
[14:20] <cyford> after updates  my command lind is all  jarbled    even new commands after  i restart
[14:20] <varunendra> Vivekananda, if it even booted the ISO successfully, it means the architecture is a suitable one.
[14:21] <Vivekananda> yes that I can understand
[14:21] <Vivekananda> but why is my multiboot causing issues
[14:21] <Vivekananda> you know what I can format that drive on the usb and install the yumi
[14:21] <Vivekananda> would that be better to try ?
[14:21] <varunendra> Vivekananda, you are booting directly from the ISO, not from the USB right?
[14:21] <Vivekananda> yes directly from ISO
[14:22] <varunendra> Vivekananda, then the USB complexity is out of the way in this case.
[14:22] <noobler> Hello, I just downloaded ubuntu 13.10 and I noticed on the iso file that it says amd64, but i've got an intel and I can't find any intel versions
[14:22] <Vivekananda> yes
[14:22] <Vivekananda> so now my question is how do I put this iso on the usb and create the multiboot and use it ?
[14:23] <DJones> noobler: As long as you've a 64 bit processor, its the same, its just historical in that AMD got to 64 bit first
[14:23] <noobler> DJones oh perfect, thank you!
[14:23] <varunendra> Vivekananda, it is quite possible that whatever 'glitch' you mention was related to VBox's ability to handle USB, not related to what kind of boot loader it had.
[14:24] <varunendra> Vivekananda, if you are going to boot Physical machines from this USB, why not test it on them directly?
[14:24] <noobler> Vivekananda, I arrived late but could you restate your problem? I have some experience with booting operating systems from usb
[14:24] <cyford> my   terminal  commands look like this after updates ...
[14:24] <Vivekananda> varunendra: no what I meant is that the glitch I mentioned happend when I rebooted my computer NOT the Vm , into the usb
[14:24] <cyford> }ԭ��{ū���m[^D�U^PK}q�ĻH�(^M���K�04��,t�U�l���ҹP�v�=[�^_}�Iż���^X��{����^R���^P}U
[14:25] <varunendra> Vivekananda, you mean you tried booting your physical computer with the USB and it failed?
[14:25] <hitsujiTMO> DJones: AMD didn't get 64bit first. don't forget things like IA64. AMD developed the widely adopted 64Bit arch spec thats IA32/i386 compatible   and now Intel licence it from AMD
[14:26] <noobler> lol
[14:26] <nikolam> I have an idea. Can one do fresh Ubuntu install inside BTRFS subvolume, that is mounted from Live CD? and then change GRUB2 on the system to just boot from new install?
[14:26] <Pici> cyford: type 'reset'
[14:26] <DJones> hitsujiTMO: Well, I thought a simple answer was probably quicker :)
[14:26] <noobler> and much more appreciated by noobs like myself^^
[14:26] <nikolam> so that way having multiple systems on same BTRFS, in different subvoolumes...
[14:26] <Vivekananda> noobler great. I am using multiboot from this page to create a usb with two partitions . the fat one is where I am installing it ( the other is ext3) . I have put in two isos both ubuntu 12.04 and now trying to boot into the usb to install the os but after booting the graphics and everything becomes all weird . I tried then to use the iso in a vbox and the vbox bootedfine only with 1.5 gig ram and my system has 4 gigs in total
[14:27] <Vivekananda> varunendra: yes my physical computer with multiboot usb
[14:27] <noobler> Vivekananda so you put two identical operating systems onto 1 usb with 2 partitions?
[14:27] <Vivekananda> and it booted it but on trying to install it gave me weird errors : nouveau drivers and stuff
[14:27] <varunendra> Vivekananda, what is the graphics card in your computer? It could be a graphics driver issue
[14:28] <cyford> Pici  i typed reset   and still same thing
[14:28] <cyford> even after reboot
[14:28] <cyford>   when i type a new command it shows fine till ireboot
[14:28] <varunendra> Vivekananda, ouch! nouveau = nvidia = problem sometimes (or often)
[14:28] <Vivekananda> noobler: no I created two partitions p1 : fat32 ( contains iso1 and iso2 ) p2: ext3 ( contains random files no isos )
[14:28] <hitsujiTMO> cyford: whats the output of: locale
[14:29] <Vivekananda> varunendra: yes but then why does the same problem not show up in  1. vbox  2. booting the 32 bit os for ubuntu
[14:29] <varunendra> noobler, Vivekananda used MultiSystem to make it a MultiBoot USB (putting two ISOs on it)
[14:29] <cyford> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[14:29] <cyford> LANGUAGE=en_US:en
[14:29] <cyford> LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
[14:29] <cyford> LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
[14:29] <cyford> LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
[14:29] <cyford> LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8
[14:29] <cyford> LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
[14:29] <cyford> LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
[14:29] <cyford> LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
[14:29] <cyford> LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
[14:29] <DJones> cyford: Please use pastebin
[14:29] <cyford> LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
[14:29] <gordonjcp> !paste | cyford
[14:29] <varunendra> Vivekananda, because VMs use generic hardware, not your physical ones
[14:29] <cyford> LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
[14:29] <cyford> LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
[14:29] <cyford> LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
[14:29] <cyford> LC_ALL=
[14:29] <Vivekananda> I used this http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ noobler
[14:29] <varunendra> !pastebin | cyford
[14:29] <cyford> ok
[14:30] <Vivekananda> varunendra: hmm so thne what is the workaround
[14:30] <hitsujiTMO> cyford: :P also can you pastebin, the output of: echo $PS1
[14:30] <Vivekananda> also should check my bios versions too I have a lenovo T61
[14:30] <varunendra> !nomodeset | Vivekananda , this may be your workaround
[14:31] <noobler> Vivekananda if the problem is showing up when booting directly from the usb, then it seems like it might be a driver issue. Like varunendra said, vboxes use generic hardware and therefore come pre-set with drivers for many linux distros
[14:31] <Vivekananda> varunendra: my bios version says : 7LETC6WW (2.26 ) for lenovo T61 2.1 ghz
[14:31] <Vivekananda> can someone tell me if this is the latest ?
[14:32] <Vivekananda> noobler: makes sense
[14:32] <varunendra> Vivekananda, we had a similar problem with nvidia this afternoon. The nomodeset option should give you a usable desktop environment, where you can proceed to installing the OS or installing a suitable driver for the card.
[14:33] <cyford> http://pastebin.com/a5y3hmTX
[14:33] <alnkpa2> hey, I'd like to use ecryptfs-migrate-home and have two questions: what does "USER really must run ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase(1) or zescrow(1) and record their randomly generated mount passphrase." mean and what happens if I don't? and: will my home dir automatically get decrypted after migration?
[14:33] <noobler> Vivekananda the 2.1 ghz is the t61 right, not t61p?
[14:34] <Vivekananda> also noobler also tell me this if you have used multiboot. How do I delete an iso from it . What I get as the screen is thsi http://imagebin.org/294251
[14:34] <Vivekananda> yes no p
[14:34] <hitsujiTMO> cyford: hmm, everything looks ok there at least. What exactly was done before all this started happening?
[14:34] <cyford> updates
[14:35] <Vivekananda> varunendra: in the link above there is a menu for uninstall but let me show you what it does on clicking
[14:35] <hitsujiTMO> cyford: do you know what packages were updated? you should be able to get that info from the apt logs
[14:35] <hitsujiTMO> cyford: also is this just specific to your user, or does it effect other users?
[14:35] <riverloop> Is 14.04 stable enough for daily use?
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> !trusty | riverloop wrong room for such questions
[14:36] <cyford> hmm  i havent tryed other users,  since i only have 1 on my laptop
[14:36] <Vivekananda> http://imagebin.org/294253 varunendra
[14:37] <hitsujiTMO> cyford: can you try creating a user and testing. also, does it happen under a vtty (ctrl + alt + f1, etc)
[14:37] <Vivekananda> btw varunendra I share part of your name here :)
[14:37] <cyford> i have been running these commands    for my wine  http://pastebin.com/ptnszkxx
[14:37] <noobler> Vivekananda why don't you start with this. Format the USB again, put your active partition and your ext partition, then put 1 iso in, see if it works. If it does then I think by putting the second ISO in a different partition, it should fix your problem.
[14:38] <Vivekananda> noobler: should I go with multiboot or do I go with just creating a live usb with just one os ?
[14:38] <cyford> when i type  it looks fine,   only all messages  that are saved before reboot looks like that
[14:38] <Vivekananda> noobler: also could you tell me if my bios is the newest ?
[14:39] <noobler> for this time, go with the live usb with just one os. but make sure you format two partitions exactly the way you have it set up now. only difference, you install only one iso vivekananda
[14:39] <varunendra> Vivekananda, oops, definitely not the option we want :P Does the "Boot" menu give anything useful? If not, I hope just deleting/moving the ISO + Update Grub2 should do the job
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> cyford: export language=en_us.utf-8 is incorrect. its: export LANGUAGE="en_US.UTF-8"
[14:40] <noobler> vivekananda according to the site, your pc should be using the 2.30-1.08 version
[14:40] <varunendra> Vivekananda, I was momentarily confused seeing "varun" in the terminal - same user id here too :P
[14:40] <noobler> you're at 2.6 which isn't too outdated. but before messing with the BIOS, try the live usb option first Vivekananda
   could that be the reason
[14:42] <philinux> riverloop;~ join #ubuntu+1 channel
[14:42] <Vivekananda> varunendra: I said 'part' of your name and I knew you would see that
[14:42] <hitsujiTMO> cyford: not sure. you'd have to change it and test
[14:42] <Vivekananda> noobler: okay I understand so for now I go with only live usb
[14:42] <noobler> cyford: it's possible being that all linux distros are case-sensitive
[14:42] <riverloop> philinux: thanks.
[14:42] <Vivekananda> and not with installing multiboot again
[14:43] <Vivekananda> varunendra: which 'boot' menu are your referring to ?
[14:43] <noobler> Vivekananda yes, this way we can weave out the problem step-by-step. if it fixes it, then you know that the problem is multi-boot. If it doesn't fix it, then we know multi-boot is fine and it's probably a driver issue.
[14:43] <cyford> ok  ill check   and if not working i make new user an test before getting  back
[14:44] <varunendra> Vivekananda, the Boot 'tab' here : http://imagebin.org/294251
[14:44] <Vivekananda> noobler: okay am on it but a format of mysystem would erase my os and I wll come back to you guys only ain a bit :(
[14:44] <Vivekananda> oo okay
[14:44] <Vivekananda> lemme try
[14:45] <noobler> Vivekananda no no no i don't mean wipe your hardrive. I mean only the usb. unless this OS you're currently on is on your usb. Then i would only clean out the partition.
[14:45] <noobler> well i'm going to go figure out my problem lol. Thank you for the help. Good luck with yours Vivekananda
[14:46] <Vivekananda> hmmm okay
[14:46] <samson> Hello :-)
[14:48] <Vivekananda> varunendra: is yum a newwer version or is multiboot
[14:48] <Vivekananda> if only I could start either well could I not just test this on my system ?
[14:49] <Vivekananda> I dont know what noobler meant by only formatting my usb. Even if I did thathow would I know if itworks or not ? varunendra ? unless I use it to install the os somewhere ?  either vbox ormy physical machine
[14:51] <varunendra> Vivekananda, I am almost 100% sure the problem is the nvidia graphics. It is going to be the same regardless of how you boot the ISO. The nomodeset option is the only lifesaver if it is what I think it is
[14:53] <wrongplace> how do I edit filenames with gmusicbrowser?
[14:58] <Vivekananda> varunendra: okay then how do I set it ?
[14:58] <Vivekananda> when booting from multiboot ?
[14:58] <shahhena95> I have downloaded qt for linux and its a .run file. How do i install it ?
[14:59] <n-iCe> hello, chrome is playing youtube videos in fast mode
[14:59] <k1l_> shahhena95: what do you need qt for?
[14:59] <n-iCe> Any idea?
[15:00] <varunendra> Vivekananda, did you see the purple splash screen while booting from it?
[15:00] <irssi-mike> shahhena95: i'm gonna venture a guess and say chmod +x *.run && ./*.run
[15:01] <Vivekananda> yes I did but rightafter that when the desktop shows up it went all crazy and hung and black and white
[15:01] <shahhena95> irssi-mike: I tried that, the exceution stops after a while
[15:01] <k1l_> irssi-mike: shahhena95 no! why do you not use the package system in first place?
[15:01] <k1l_> shahhena95: what do you want to do at all?
[15:02] <Vivekananda> varunendra: i am going to try a single iso via unetbootin
[15:02] <varunendra> Vivekananda, perfect. Then press any key as soon as you see that purple screen. It should show you "Advanced Boot Menu" then, where you can select "Try.., Install, Check disc for defects" etc. options.
[15:02] <shahhena95> k1l_ : I have downloaded qt setup thats .run file, I want to install it
[15:02] <k1l_> shahhena95: ubuntu ships already qt stuff
[15:02] <Vivekananda> okay ten ..
[15:03] <Vivekananda> which option do I choose or what do I nter in the cli ?
[15:03] <shahhena95> k1l_: before installing i searched for qt , I couldnt find it. So i installed all that :P
[15:03] <k1l_> shahhena95: :/
[15:03] <shahhena95> k1l_ : how to i launch the qt environment ?
[15:03] <varunendra> Vivekananda, press F6 on that screen. It should pop up a menu with "nomodeset" (and other) option in it
[15:04] <k1l_> !info libqt4-dev
[15:04] <varunendra> Vivekananda, see this page : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Ubuntu_CD_Advanced_Welcome_Page_Options
[15:04] <shahhena95> k1l_ : :(
[15:05] <whoever> shahhena95: did you get it yet ?
[15:05] <k1l_> shahhena95: first rule is to use the package system. otherwise you will get into trouble.
[15:05] <shahhena95> whoever : I dint get it
[15:06] <whoever> shahhena95: how did you install it ? from source om package manager ?
[15:06] <shahhena95> k1l_ : yeah..i got it :). I installed it from source
[15:06] <whoever> shahhena95: if from source, remove it, and install it from the package manager
[15:07] <shahhena95> whoever: package manager ?? :|
[15:08] <Mion> shahhena95: aptitude install whatever
[15:08] <Mion> `man aptitude` for details
[15:08] <Vivekananda> varunendra: nope sorry I did not go as far as that page
[15:09] <whoever> shahhena95:  the package manager will als make it easier to maintan
[15:09] <shahhena95> mion and whoever : terminal is showing no manual entry fir aptitude
[15:09] <varunendra> Vivekananda, could you get the Advanced Menu?
[15:09] <shahhena95> for*
[15:09] <whoever> shahhena95: or just use software center
[15:09] <Vivekananda> the multiboot loader comes up and on choosing theos  the ubuntu logo with the moving dots comes up and right after it ie when the first pic on the page should show ( intro) it misbehaves
[15:09] <whoever> shahhena95: its on launcher, it looks like a folder with an "A"
[15:10] <Mion> shahhena95: <tab> key will autocomplete nicks for you in all sane irc clients
[15:10] <Vivekananda> varunendra: I am not deletting multiboot and creating a single boot unetbootin iso
[15:10] <Vivekananda> lemme see how that goes
[15:10] <shahhena95> whoever : software centre i know :P
[15:10] <varunendra> Vivekananda, the first pic on the page is the default booting, we have to avoid that by breaking the default progress
[15:11] <shahhena95> thanx Mion :)
[15:11] <whoever> Vivekananda: so  what is your issue with your boot loader
[15:11] <shahhena95> thanx whoever :)
[15:11] <whoever> shahhena95:  np
[15:11] <shahhena95> whoever: then what i need to install for Qt?
[15:12] <varunendra> Vivekananda, if you press 'Any' key during the splash screen, you would never get the screen as the 'First' pic on the wiki page, instead you'll get the alternative menu which is what we need
[15:12] <shahhena95> settings or creator or what ?
[15:12] <Vivekananda> varunendra: okay trying it now
[15:12] <whoever> shahhena95: qt4 setings, qt4 creater
[15:12] <Vivekananda> if I get it i need to know what to do
[15:12] <Vivekananda> coz I wont have net then
[15:12] <whoever> shahhena95: both
[15:13] <shahhena95> whoever : Thank you so much ..... :)
[15:13] <whoever> shahhena95: if you don't need the settings you can remove it later
[15:13] <Vivekananda> whoever: sad situations and have been going on and on :(
[15:13] <shahhena95> whoever : :)
[15:13] <Vivekananda> in short multiboot is not working and my comp is giving issues of 'noveau drivers' so perhaps nvidia
[15:14] <Vivekananda> what do I type  / key in if I get the alternate menu ?
[15:14] <Vivekananda> after choosing f6 ?
[15:14] <whoever> Vivekananda: at boot, at this stage your video is usually not going to be an issue
[15:14] <_UsUrPeR_> hey all. I am having some problems putting together a .deb package from source
[15:14] <Vivekananda> varunendra:
[15:15] <_UsUrPeR_> I am pretty sure there is a better channel to discuss this
[15:15] <_UsUrPeR_> but am unsure what it is
[15:15] <_UsUrPeR_> any suggestions?
[15:15] <varunendra> Vivekananda, it should pop up a menu which should have the "nomodeset" option in it. Select it using the arrow keys > press Spacebar > press 'Esc' > Enter
[15:15] <whoever> Vivekananda: if this grub2? did you create it yourself, or edit a pre
[15:15] <whoever> exsisting one
[15:15] <Vivekananda> whoever: i created a multiboot cd with two iso, booted intoit and on starting ubuntu 64 bit after the ubuntu logo with running dots the screen goes bad ie black and purple
[15:16] <Vivekananda> varunendra: ok got it
[15:16] <Vivekananda> trying now
[15:16] <varunendra> Vivekananda, so it is - Any key during purple splash screen > F6 > nomodeset > enter
[15:16] <alnkpa2> hey, I'd like to use ecryptfs-migrate-home and have two questions: what does "USER really must run ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase(1) or zescrow(1) and record their randomly generated mount passphrase." mean and what happens if I don't? and: will my home dir automatically get decrypted after migration?
[15:17] <whoever> varunendra: i think he missed a step in using is multiboot creation tool
[15:17] <_UsUrPeR_> at the risk of being annoying: I am having some problems using aclocal while trying to create a .deb package from source. What's the proper irc channel to talk this out?
[15:17] <varunendra> whoever, which step?
[15:17] <alnkpa2> _UsUrPeR_: might wanna try #autotools
[15:17] <whoever> varunendra: maybe he didn't like the answers we were giving him
[15:18] <_UsUrPeR_> alnkpa2: thanks for that. I'll head on over
[15:18] <whoever> varunendra: when you preview befor the multiboot iso builds you need to edit your grub config and the boot location is wrong
[15:19] <whoever> varunendra: and instread of erroring out or erroingout as quickly as he would hope for he gets the black screen
[15:19] <varunendra> whoever, he said he got the purple screen with dots, so I thing the grub part is okay
[15:20] <whoever> varunendra: there might even be a buringing speed issue , if you burn too fast you can also get the same prob
[15:20] <varunendra> think *
[15:20] <whoever> varunendra: or i didn't read the dots
[15:20] <varunendra> whoever, it was an ISO on USB, so the burning issue is ruled out
[15:21] <varunendra> whoever, also, he mentioned that a VM in VBox booted just fine from the same ISO, so the ISO is intact as well..
[15:24] <whoever> varunendra: ah , so that leave burn speed, did he ever say what tool he used to creade the multi boot
[15:24] <varunendra> whoever, MultiSystem
[15:27] <whoever> varunendra: did he ever test is multi-boot in a vm  or just burn it
[15:28] <_UsUrPeR_> alnkpa2: #autotools seems to be the place, but the channel doesn't have anyone active. Are you familiar with autotools?
[15:28] <whoever> i had the same issue he is describing but it was booting a thumbdrive in vmware
[15:29] <whoever> and the only way i got aroud that was breating the iso and launching it without the thu
[15:29] <whoever> thubdrive
[15:29] <alnkpa2> _UsUrPeR_: sorry, only very slightly
[15:29] <varunendra> whoever, he was probably having trouble in making the usb detected in VBox - a common problem, often easily solvable, but he (or 'we') didn't bother. He booted directly from the ISO and it booted fine, installed fine on the VM
[15:30] <_UsUrPeR_> alnkpa2: no problem. I'm going to start over
[15:30] <whoever> varunendra: ya, sounds right, he left befor either of us got to asking about the usb
[15:31] <varunendra> whoever, you mean you were trying to directly boot the USB in vmware? That capability is not yet available in any VM platform I think
[15:32] <varunendra> whoever, although there is a workaround - Plop
[15:39] <ice9> I installed unity 8 using apt-get, how do I run it?
[15:40] <whoever> varunendra: yes it was a while ago and that was how i discoverd plop
[15:40] <hitsujiTMO> ice9: you'll have to read the dev docs: https://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity8/
[15:42] <hitsujiTMO> ice9: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/unity-8-ubuntu-13-10-arrives might be more akin to what you're looking for if you installed from repo
[15:44] <Xuisce1> hi all
[15:44] <Xuisce1> :)
[15:45] <hitsujiTMO> hey waterboy
[15:45] <zerowaitstate> I'm trying to forward X11 over SSH, but I'm getting an error on the server side
[15:45] <Xuisce1> hitsujiTMO:  waterboy
[15:45] <Xuisce1> ?
[15:45] <zerowaitstate> xterm Xt error: Can't open display:
[15:45] <zerowaitstate> xterm: DISPLAY not set
[15:46] <hitsujiTMO> uisce = irish for water ... sorry. THink of that every time i see your name
[15:46] <Magiobiwan> Did you enable X-Forwarding when connecting zerowaitstate?
[15:46] <Magiobiwan> And is it enabled in the SSH Server config?
[15:47] <zerowaitstate> I am using ssh -YC to connect to the remote host. The remote server is 12.04.3 LTS and the client is 13.10
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> zerowaitstate: did you connect with the -X option?
[15:47] <zerowaitstate> ActionParsnip: I tried that also
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> zerowaitstate: you need that option to enable it, be sure it's not a lower case x
[15:50] <zerowaitstate> never mind. googled the solution
[15:50] <SeeBorg> gnikllort
[15:51] <Xuisce1_> hi
[15:51] <zerowaitstate> there was an error in the /etc/init/ssh.conf file
[15:51] <SeeBorg> googled the solution
[15:51] <Xuisce1_> !iran
[15:51] <lemixtape2> Hey! Trying to install Ubuntu Server 12.04.3. When I get to the drive partitioning, I keep getting the error that the drive is not mountable. When I go into syslog, I see the error: unable to find swap-space signature. Any suggestion?
[15:51] <SeeBorg> there was an error in the solution
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> lemixtape2: did you set a swap partition?
[15:54] <lemixtape2> ActionParsnip: Yes. I have a root, home, swap and boot partition.
[15:55] <lemixtape2> ActionParsnip: Swap is 16384MB for 8GM of RAM.
[15:56] <lemixtape2> ActionParsnip: Root is 15GB Primary. Boot is 400BM Primary. Home is 218GB Logical.
[15:56] <lemixtape2> ActionParsnip: Any suggestion on what do try?
[15:57] <SeeBorg> lemixtape2: did you set a swap partition?
[15:57] <lemixtape2> SeeBorg: I am in the installer. Trying to make one alongside the root, home and boot partitions.
[15:57] <lemixtape2> SeeBorg: I am using manual partitioning instead of guided.
[15:57] <SeeBorg> seeborg: i keep getting the drive is 16384mb for 8gm of ram.
[15:58] <lemixtape2> SeeBorg: Any suggestion?
[15:59] <marni> hmm having trouble installing ati radeon driver.. [AMD/ATI] RV200/M7 [Mobility Radeon 7500]. on Dell Inspiron 5100.  v. 12.04
[16:01] <v0lksman_> hey all!  I'm trying to clean up my /boot partition but when trying to remove packages it tries to install new ones leading to errors about disk space etc...how can I force the removal of the packages?
[16:02] <philinux> v0lksman_;~ do you mean old kernels?
[16:02] <v0lksman_> philinux: yeah and headers
[16:02] <Mion> headers shoundln't fill up /boot
[16:03] <lemixtape2> Hey! Trying to install Ubuntu Server 12.04.3. When I get to the drive partitioning, I keep getting the error that the drive is not mountable. When I go into syslog, I see the error: unable to find swap-space signature. Any suggestion?
[16:03] <philinux> v0lksman_;~ I always use this http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/10/remove-old-kernels-in-ubuntu-with-one-command/
[16:03] <v0lksman_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6955091/
[16:03] <philinux> v0lksman_;~ see step 6 and dry run
[16:04] <philinux> v0lksman_;~ have you this package installed apt-cache policy linux-generic
[16:06] <v0lksman_> philinux: only linux-generic: linux-generic-lts-quantal         <IP_ADDRESS>.50
[16:06] <v0lksman_> although I'm running precise so I'm not sure why a quantal package is there
[16:06] <philinux> v0lksman_;~ ok
[16:06] <hirsty> hey all can someone translate a zip command into a rar command for me?
[16:07] <hirsty> (wanting to split into chunks under linux and unzip under windows)
[16:07] <v0lksman_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6955124/  <- dry run of the page you suggested
[16:08] <v0lksman_> philinux: ^
[16:09] <philinux> v0lksman_;~ you could try unistall the quantal package and then see
[16:12] <impossible> does this work as well?: sudo dd if="disk-image" of=/dev/sdb1
[16:12] <impossible> i think i've done that and it has worked, putting an iso in my usb
[16:12] <impossible> but i think the correct way is sudo dd if=/dev/sdb1 of="disk-image"
[16:13] <v0lksman_> if = input file of = output file
[16:13] <v0lksman_> philinux: had to resort to dpkg -r and manually remove a bunch of packages
[16:13] <v0lksman_> seems to be doing something now
[16:13] <helmut_> hi
[16:13] <philinux> v0lksman_;~ linux-generic always points to the latest kernel so it's needed
[16:14] <F0UL> philinux: Yes generic is best for desktop
[16:15] <philinux> v0lksman_;~ and it's in precise repo as it should be
[16:18] <lemixtape2> Hey! Trying to install Ubuntu Server 12.04.3. When I get to the drive partitioning, I keep getting the error that the drive is not mountable. When I go into syslog, I see the error: unable to find swap-space signature. Any suggestion?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> hirsty: install unp and you can use it for any archive
[16:19] <schoppenhauer> is it possible to have a global menu in Gnome 3?
[16:19] <schoppenhauer> (using 12.04)
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> schoppenhauer: that is default in Ubuntu
[16:19] <schoppenhauer> ActionParsnip: not here.
[16:19] <schoppenhauer> ActionParsnip: how can I activate it?
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> schoppenhauer: Ubuntu 12.04 uses Gnome 3 as the DE and Compiz as the WM and Unity as the shell
[16:20] <philinux> schoppenhauer;~ are you running unity?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> schoppenhauer: so by using Unity, you are using Gnome 3
[16:20] <impossible> i thought gnome 3 didnt use compiz
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> impossible: yes, it does in Ubuntu
[16:20] <philinux> impossible;~ unity is a compiz plugin
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> impossible: gnome shell uses Mutter
[16:20] <schoppenhauer> Not sure whether I run unity.
[16:20] <impossible> oh so it doesnt in like fedora>
[16:20] <impossible> ?
[16:20] <schoppenhauer> how can I determine?
[16:20] <impossible> gotcha
[16:20] <v0lksman_> anyone know if this is right?  Linux-generic version is 3.5.0-43, linux-virtual is 3.2.0-58
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> schoppenhauer: what is the output of:  ps -ef | egrep -i 'compiz|mutter'
[16:21] <v0lksman_> 3.2?
[16:21] <schoppenhauer> ActionParsnip: only 1000     14565 14508  0 17:21 pts/3    00:00:00 egrep --color=auto -i compiz|mutter
[16:21] <philinux> schoppenhauer;~ desktop in unity looks like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_%28user_interface%29
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> schoppenhauer: then you mangled the command
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> schoppenhauer: or are you running Gnome shell instead of Unity?
[16:23] <philinux> v0lksman_;~ http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/linux-generic
[16:23] <schoppenhauer> ActionParsnip: probably.
[16:24] <schoppenhauer> ActionParsnip: I do not want unity anyway. But the global menu would be nice.
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> schoppenhauer: can you find an image online that your desktop looks like
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> schoppenhauer: or give a screenshot using imageshack etc
[16:25] <Turingi> Are you able to play TF2 from native steam with an AMD card on ubuntu 13.1 right now?
[16:25] <schoppenhauer> ActionParsnip: like this: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GvJG7HT5800/TomeBmITKbI/AAAAAAAAGGo/wvelRJOnnn8/Workspace%2525202_076.png
[16:27] <schoppenhauer> ActionParsnip: so it is probably the gnome shell
[16:28] <fsasdf421> hi, got a problem here, i cannot get higher resolution than 1360x768, im using 1920x1080 monitor, and vga and gpu is geforce 210 and i have installed nvidia driver from "additional drivers"
[16:28] <Rory> Turingi: Not sure about TF2 specifically, but I've played other Source-engine games on my Radeon HD6970
[16:29] <Rory> fsasdf421: What ubuntu version are you using?
[16:29] <fsasdf421> 12.04 LTS
[16:29] <fsasdf421> if it matters mobo is asus a8n-e, cpu athlon 64 x2 3800+ and 2gb ddr ram
[16:30] <Turingi> Rory: for some reason there is a segmentation fault just before joining a server
[16:30] <Rory> fsasdf421: Can you please install the "pastebinit" package (sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit) and then pastebin the copies of your xorg log? (pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[16:30] <Rory> fsasdf421: That'll give you a URL, to paste in this channel
[16:31] <marni> nevermind.. i found my answer
[16:31] <fsasdf421> sure
[16:31] <fsasdf421> please wait a bit
[16:31] <Rory> Sadly I'm here for another hour
[16:32] <Rory> fsasdf421: Could you also similarly run: xarandr | pastebinit
[16:32] <fsasdf421> yup sure i do the xorg one first
[16:32] <fsasdf421> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6955220/ here is xorg log
[16:33] <Turingi> Rory: this is the console log http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=CZJbpPtd
[16:33] <Turingi> Rory: using an AMD HD 7750 card and ubuntu 13.1
[16:33] <fsasdf421> did you mean xrandr for the other one by the way
[16:33] <impossible> do i need to make my usb's partition gpt for uefi? or is there something that does it all for me
[16:34] <impossible> im trying to install via usb on a uefi system
[16:34] <fsasdf421> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6955225 here is xrandr
[16:34] <schoppenhauer> so ... is it possible to have a global menu in 12.04 without unity?
[16:35] <anshulk> schoppenhauer, ya
[16:36] <anshulk> schoppenhauer, you just need an applet
[16:36] <schoppenhauer> anshulk: ?
[16:36] <anshulk> schoppenhauer, search for the menu applet
[16:37] <anshulk> schoppenhauer, http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/bring-ubuntus-menu-classicmenu-applet/
[16:40] <Rory> fsasdf421: Can you run this command, and note down the line it gives you (the one starting with Modeline) : "cvt 1920 1080"
[16:41] <fsasdf421> okey sure
[16:41] <dlocutor> clear
[16:41] <Rory> fsasdf421: Ignore the "Modeline" word, let's say it gave you this: "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
[16:41] <suess> booting up after a test with video driver and getting a black screen with blue lines.. flashing underline cursor upper left corner.. how do i get to terminal? CTRL+ALT+F2 etc not working
[16:41] <suess> is there a key combo during boot to get to command line ?
[16:42] <Turingi> Is _anyone_ able to play TF2 on steam native with an AMD GPU at the moment? I get a segmentation fault when trying to join a server.  http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=CZJbpPtd
[16:42] <fsasdf421> is it alright i use that paste thing for that too since im on other computer at this irc and this computer with the problem is on another monitor
[16:43] <nichlas> suess: hold down left shift key i think
[16:43] <fsasdf421> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6955257/
[16:43] <Turingi> I switched from fedora20 to ubuntu 13.1 and TF2 is crashing in a similar manner, don't have the proprietary drivers installed, only the default ones that came with the distro
[16:43] <whoever> is there a repo for plymouth boot manager that works for 13.x
[16:43] <Rory> fsasdf421: then you would run this command: xrandr --newmode "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
[16:43] <fsasdf421> alright
[16:43] <suess> nichlas, i will test that.. 1 second
[16:43] <Starkid> Guys is there any channel I can talk to Ubuntu SDK devs or something? I'm having some troubles with it...
[16:44] <ice9> global menu items are not active, they are shown but can't select them, I think this happened after installing gnome-shell and xfce, I removed them but still!
[16:44] <fsasdf421> alright after that?
[16:44] <nichlas> suess: you can read more here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[16:44] <Rory> fsasdf421: xrandr --addmode VGA-0 1920x1080_60.00
[16:45] <Rory> fsasdf421: xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1920x1080_60.00
[16:45] <dlocutor> CLEAR
[16:45] <suess> nichlas, k so i guess i go to recovery mode? not sure which one
[16:45] <fsasdf421> xrandr: cannot find mode "1920x1080_60.00"
[16:45] <suess> nichlas, -15 or -12
[16:46] <nichlas> suess: recovery mode is command line with minimal loaded
[16:46] <Rory> fsasdf421: did you run: xrandr --addmode VGA-0 1920x1080_60.00
[16:46] <suess> ok
[16:46] <fsasdf421> yes and it makes that "cannot find mode"
[16:46] <impossible> Open with Archive Mounter crashes for me, any other way to see an isos contentS?
[16:46] <ice9> Rory: xrandr can add resolution that is not supported?
[16:46] <suess> nichlas, did this 32bit ati driver.. getting a lock up
[16:47] <Rory> ice9: Yes, in cases like this where I can see the monitor isn't reporting its resolutions correctly to the driver
[16:47] <nichlas> suess: so you need to reset?
[16:47] <ice9> Rory: no I mean resolution that is higher than the supported one, I mean can it emulate and run it?
[16:48] <suess> not sure.. i didn't get to try: sudo aticonfig --initial --adapter=all
[16:48] <suess> sudo reboot now
[16:48] <fsasdf421> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6955289/
[16:48] <nichlas> &me reboots
[16:48]  * nichlas reboots
[16:48] <suess> lol
[16:49] <Rory> fsasdf421: OK I double-checked the commands and put them in this pastebin. There are three. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6955291/
[16:49] <fsasdf421> okay
[16:49] <nichlas> would have been funnier without the typo :)
[16:49] <Rory> ice9: No, but I know fglrx can scale
[16:50] <Rory> ice9: Seems an odd use-case though
[16:50] <suess> nichlas, tried the first command, of course in terminal / recovery it says "aticonfig: No supported adapters detected"
[16:50] <bjrohan> Hello all. I have a dual boot laptop (HP Envy), whichI have had for about a year. About 2 weeks ago, the fan began to run constantly (I run Ubuntu 99% of the time on this machine). In booting into windows, the same occurs. What would cause my fan to run constantly (and blow warm air, so something is working hard).
[16:50] <fsasdf421> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6955297
[16:50] <ice9> Rory: btw, the global menu problem in all users,  they are there but unselectable
[16:51] <asd_> how can i buypass typing sudo every time???
[16:51] <bjrohan> where would I start to look.
[16:52] <nichlas> suess: try "lspci | grep VGA"
[16:52] <Rory> asd_: Every time you do what?
[16:53] <asd_> every time i go to terminal i would like not to include sudo in installing apps, updating, upgrading...
[16:53] <impossible> i try to copy files into a usb but the destination is read-only
[16:53] <Rory> hmm fsasdf421 can you try the commands again, but this time, replace every mention of "1920x1080_60.00" with a different name like "1080p"
[16:53] <fsasdf421> okay sure
[16:53] <Rory> asd_: You would like to be able to run the "apt-get" command as root, without providing a password?
[16:54] <asd_> yes
[16:54] <llutz> asd_: "sudo -i" gives you a root-shell to do some admin-tasks. no need to use sudo within
[16:54] <Rory> asd_: Open a terminal and type sudo visudo. At the end of the file (really the last line in it) type %yourusername% ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/apt-get install where %yourusername% is replaced by your username.
[16:54] <schoppenhauer> anshulk: this is not what I was asking
[16:55] <anshulk> schoppenhauer, oh... then ask again :)
[16:55] <ice9> Rory: can the fglrx work with Intel?
[16:55] <Rory> ice9: no fglrx is the AMD driver
[16:55] <fsasdf421> didnt work
[16:55] <Rory> asd_: I searched Google for "apt-get without sudo" and found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/74054/run-apt-get-without-sudo
[16:55] <schoppenhauer> anshulk: the question was, how do I get the global menu, that is the main menu of every program, shown in one place.
[16:56] <Rory> impossible: Does the flash drive have a switch on the side which sets it to read-only?
[16:56] <nichlas> suess: did you find the card?
[16:56] <Vivekananda> okay so after much ado I am back
[16:56] <impossible> no Rory
[16:56] <suess> nichlas, VGA comp. AMD/ATI RV200/M7 Moblity Radeon 7500
[16:57] <NyteRukh> hello
[16:57] <Rory> hi NyteRukh
[16:57] <nichlas> suess: that is an older card, isn't it?
[16:57] <fsasdf421> the first one worked but then the 2 others still make x error with that 1080p
[16:57] <Rory> fsasdf421: The first one worked? Can you show me the output of running them?
[16:58] <nichlas> suess: then it might not be supported by the catalyst drivers
[16:58] <fsasdf421> okay please wait
[16:59] <nichlas> oops, wrong command
[17:00] <NyteRukh> im currently running 13.10 when the new version comes out in the spring...will the os auto upgrade or do i have to download and install
[17:00] <nichlas> NyteRukh: You can upgrade from one version to the next without reinstalling
[17:00] <tylerjd> There is an upgrade mechanism so you can upgrade from within the OS itself
[17:00] <Vivekananda> hi
[17:01] <NyteRukh> ok thanks...
[17:01] <fsasdf421> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6955339
[17:02] <NyteRukh> still new to ubuntu...i love it..lot better than windows
[17:02] <Karpuragauram> hi everyone
[17:02] <Karpuragauram> I am just testing my nics
[17:02] <Karpuragauram> Karpuragauram: and vivekananda
[17:02] <Karpuragauram> is varunendra around by any chance
[17:02] <Karpuragauram> and I hope not to bug if you are
[17:03] <suess> nichlas, seems to be from what i have read
[17:03] <suess> nichlas, tried this with 32bit: http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/ubuntu-amd-catalyst-install
[17:03] <suess> nichlas, said it was supported during install
[17:04] <Vivekananda> hello everyone
[17:04] <fsasdf421> Rory: in case you didnt see here is the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/6955339/
[17:05] <suess> nichlas, and should i some how try to boot with nomodeset ?
[17:06] <Rory> fsasdf421: Are you comfortable following these instructions? http://askubuntu.com/a/237551/62969
[17:06] <varunendra> Vivekananda, yup, I'm here now..
[17:06] <Rory> fsasdf421: Also yes I missed the first time, if a line doesn't have my name in it, I get no sort of notification
[17:06] <bjrohan> My system is running quite hot lately, top doesn't show anything unusual, any sugestions where to start looking for the culprit? The fan runs constantly, whereas before, it would hardly run
[17:06] <nichlas> suess: I usually clean up the graphics drivers when it fails, and then try to install again
[17:06] <fsasdf421> Rory: since its my second computer, theres nothing to lose so why not to try? anyway i have to go and try that later when i got time, bye and thanks
[17:07] <nichlas> suess: i am not completely sure how to continue when it hangs
[17:07] <suess> k, nichlas ... i cant remember the command to uninstall
[17:07] <Rory> OK fsasdf421 can you keep those pastebin URLs around, in case you are back later, you can show people the xorg log
[17:07] <tylerjd> bjrohan: Is there something eating your processor? Check the task manager or you could use the top command
[17:07] <tylerjd> Wow
[17:07] <fsasdf421> sure
[17:07] <tylerjd> I completely missed half your post, bjrohan
[17:07] <tylerjd> Sorry
[17:07] <nichlas> suess: i sugest purging like they explain here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers-fglrx/286775#286775
[17:08] <nichlas> suess: (The guide starts with purging all drivers)
[17:08] <bjrohan> tylerjd: task manager doesn't show anything, really FireFox taking 6% CPU. My laptop doesn't have a seperate GPU either
[17:09] <tylerjd> bjrohan: Have you installed any new updates recently? Maybe a new kernel version?
[17:09] <bjrohan> tylerjd: shutting off FireFox, leaves Konversation, and THunderbird left, and those show 1% at times
[17:09] <bjrohan> tylerjd: 2 new kernels since this started, one was just today, but the same issue
[17:09] <Vivekananda> varunendra: okay thanks and things failed miserably
[17:10] <Vivekananda> ie during install I was not able to get that screen
[17:10] <nichlas> bjrohan: ati card? VAIO system?
[17:10] <tylerjd> bjrohan: Do you still have the old ones installed? Perhaps something changed for the worse in a recent version
[17:10] <Vivekananda> I treid pressing all buttons and then
[17:10] <suess> nichlas, ok.. also under grub and regular ubuntu boot, how do i add nomodeset?
[17:10] <bjrohan> tylerjd: This is a dual boot setup, booting into Windows 8 gives me the same issue
[17:10] <bjrohan> nichlas: it is an HP Envy DV7
[17:10] <Vivekananda> I somehow was able todo -- apt-get purge nvidia-common and nvidia* and that lost me the ubuntu desktop too
[17:11] <tylerjd> bjrohan: That sounds like maybe a hardware issue. Make sure there is no dust and has good airflow
[17:11] <Vivekananda> then I did apt-get install nvidia-updates and uubntu-desktop and I am here
[17:11] <Vivekananda> so I am on the 64 bit it seems
[17:11] <bjrohan> tylerjd: ok
[17:11] <nichlas> sorry, don't know more than google about that :)
[17:12] <varunendra> Vivekananda, so are you connected via the Ubuntu installation now?
[17:12] <nichlas> brjannc: my VAIO had some problems when i installed ati drivers - it would run really hot.
[17:13] <Vivekananda> yes
[17:13] <tylerjd> nichlas: bjrohan left
[17:13] <nichlas> oh
[17:13] <Vivekananda> I am trying to set up my phone too so that in such unfortunate events I can use it varunendra
[17:14] <whoever> need some help anyone have super boot-manager on 13.10 ? all of the ppa s that i havoe tried say 404 during update
[17:15] <varunendra> Vivekananda, not being able to get the Advanced boot menu doesn't sound right. It's the ultimate 'Failsafe' fallback option in case of driver issues
[17:15] <Vivekananda> varunendra: I perhaps did not press the right keys or at the right times
[17:18] <varunendra> Vivekananda, most probably, although it is not some very tiny timeframe. It is the whole duration when the purple screen (with a keyboard and accessibility icons at the bottom) is visible - Any key during that duration. The only chance to miss it if the keyboard becomes non-functional too in that duration.
[17:18] <OerHeks> whoever, what ppa's did you try ? this one seems working https://launchpad.net/~ingalex/+archive/super-boot-manager?field.series_filter=raring
[17:19] <Vivekananda> I did not get that screen at all
[17:19] <Vivekananda> let me try to find the screens
[17:21] <varunendra> Vivekananda, at the very basic level, it is sufficient to remember that you have to add "nomodeset" to the kernel booting line, whatever way it is possible.
[17:21] <cyborg4> Hi, I'm having a problem with removing Chromium from my Lubuntu install. I removed it, but there's still a shortcut in my menu that I can't remove. Any ideas?
[17:22] <nelseal> Hi, I am trying to get a BCM4312-LPPHY wireless card to work. From a fresh install, I installed b43-fwcutter, then installed firmware-b43-lpphy-installer.
[17:22] <ice9> after I installed gnome-shell and xfce the control panel in unity is broken, doesn't look right and somethings doesn't open
[17:22] <philwong> Can I install ubuntu on my external HD from windows?
[17:22] <nelseal> Those two steps got my interface online, but I can not see any wireless networks.
[17:23] <nichlas> cyborg4: have you tried resetting the menu?
[17:23] <jonascj> Hi all. What am I looking for when my internet connection is lost when both ethernet and wifi is connected - e.g. requests going out over the wrong interface. How do I alter this "priority"?
[17:24] <whoever> is there a boot manager that works in 13.10 super boot manager does not
[17:24] <suess> great! it can not find /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh
[17:25] <Vivekananda> varunendra: okay so in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frouwATl7BM  I got the screen between 3:38 -3:40 but then at 3:47 and onwards I just got a black and blue and purple screen. so that option page did not show up at all !!
[17:26] <suess> so now i have no idea how to remove the old drivers
[17:26] <suess> great
[17:27] <varunendra> Vivekananda, I'm on a GPRS connection whose average speed is 2.5 KB/s at the moment. Videos are quite a challenge for me :P
[17:27] <Vivekananda> no worries one sec
[17:27] <Hyperbyte> Hi!  I installed Ubuntu 13.04 on a machine with system disks attached to a VIA VT6421 RAID card (mirror).  During install it asked "do you want to use the raid card?", I said yes... it installed to /dev/mapper/..something... after reboot however, there's no RAID and there are two disks, /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.  Anyone got any clues why this is happening?
[17:28] <jonascj> I think the answer is interface priority (metric). Now I just need to figure that out for network manager
[17:29] <Vivekananda> varunendra: I am pasting the screenshots ( 3 ) here. the first two are visible the third is not. Also look at the timings. They are one after the other
[17:30] <Vivekananda> http://imagebin.org/294279 http://imagebin.org/294280  http://imagebin.org/294281   varunendra
[17:31] <varunendra> Vivekananda, opening ......... :)
[17:32] <Oog> can someone help me with rsyslog please. im using ubuntu 13.10 - it seems there is a known rsyslog/logrotate problem with the default rsyslog install?
[17:32] <chenteb> alguien habla español
[17:33] <chenteb> que de un canal en español
[17:33] <varunendra> Vivekananda, so were you trying with Unetbootin?
[17:33] <genii> !es | chenteb
[17:33] <chenteb> thanks
[17:35] <Vivekananda> yes I was
[17:35] <Vivekananda> varunendra:
[17:35] <Vivekananda> how else do I put the iso on the drive ? varunendra ?
[17:36] <varunendra> Vivekananda, that's not a problem, Unetbootin is okay.. The method seems a bit different that's all
[17:37] <varunendra> Vivekananda, in the Unetbootin boot menu, it says to press [Tab] to edit options - - that should be what we were looking for in the normal booting
[17:38] <varunendra> Vivekananda, in that menu, select "Try ubuntu..." option, then instead of 'Enter', press 'Tab' key to edit the actual boot line behind that option
[17:39] <Vivekananda> okay and when I am there what do I do ?
[17:40] <Vivekananda> what are the arguments I enter ? varunendra ?
[17:40] <Vivekananda> I did try that and it came up with cli options and not the pretty screen options that we saw
[17:40] <Vivekananda> also how do I check my current ubuntu details ?
[17:41] <Vivekananda> I also wish to create a list of apps I install now so that later I can just copy those apps list for reinstall
[17:41] <varunendra> Vivekananda, if it shows a line that ends with "quiet splash", add your option "nomodeset" at the end of it, leaving a space between it and the last word before it. Then it would be probably 'Enter' key to boot with that option
[17:41] <Vivekananda> hmmm okay
[17:42] <Vivekananda> but right now I am already installed :)
[17:42] <genii> !schedule
[17:45] <varunendra> Vivekananda, I have never tried the [Tab] option in Unetbootin menu, so was only my guess, seeing how similar it is to older methods of editing the boot line. Knowing it would be handy in case you face the same problem again and need a usable graphics.
[17:46] <rhonabwy> hey folks, how do i get to know what kind of ram my darn tower has? ddr2 or ddr3, i need to know how to identify it without getting my screwdriver
[17:46] <TJ-> rhonabwy: "sudo dmidecode"
[17:47] <rhonabwy> and than i need to know what tells me wether it is ddr3 or ddr2, unable to see it :-(
[17:47] <nichlas> rhonabwy: looke for "Type: "
[17:47] <Vivekananda> varunendra: yep I will remember that for later ref
[17:48] <Vivekananda> now for the present I have to set up my comp to be usable again
[17:48] <nichlas> rhonabwy: alternatively "sudo dmidecode | grep Type"
[17:48] <rhonabwy> Handle 0x0025, DMI type 17, 27 bytes <-- but what tells me now ddr2 or ddr3?
[17:49] <Vivekananda> so the things are 1. how to prepare a list of soft I am going to install for easy use later 2. how to fix nvidia issues and make sure what version I am using  and (note it down somewhere) 3. install the correctaps
[17:49] <llutz> rhonabwy: dmidecode |grep -A20 ^"Memory Device"
[17:50] <llutz> rhonabwy: you may add  " |grep Type"
[17:51] <rhonabwy> output is not helpfull :-(
[17:51] <rhonabwy> Type: unknown or type detail: unknown
[17:52] <llutz> rhonabwy: seems your BIOS doesn't offer that info then. get your screwdriver ready now
[17:52] <rhonabwy> :'-(
[17:52] <archenemy> Hey guys, i'm trying to install Ubuntu on my macbook pro (8,1) no luck finding a compatible version or a how to guide. kinda scared to jump in
[17:52] <rhonabwy> ok let's walk the 600km to the tower ...
[17:52] <archenemy> anybody tried this?
[17:53] <rhonabwy> thy folks :)
[17:53] <llutz> rhonabwy: try getting mainboard type/brand and use google
[17:53] <nichlas> rhonabwy: can you show us the full command you used?
[17:54] <rhonabwy> sudo dmidecode |grep -A20 ^"Memory Device" | grep Type
[17:54] <rhonabwy> 	Type: Unknown
[17:54] <rhonabwy> 	Type Detail: Unknown
[17:54] <rhonabwy> 	Type: Unknown
[17:54] <rhonabwy> 	Type Detail: Synchronous
[17:54] <rhonabwy> 	Type: Unknown
[17:54] <rhonabwy> 	Type Detail: Unknown
[17:54] <rhonabwy> 	Type: Unknown
[17:54] <rhonabwy> 	Type Detail: Synchronous
[17:54] <Corey> rhonabwy: Don't do that.
[17:54] <Corey> Pastebin is your friend. :-)
[17:55] <ajoul> how to gain root privelege while I am logged in as a normal user, outside the command line
[17:56] <nichlas> rhonabwy: i get Type: DDR3 where you get Type: Unknown. So i guess llutz is correct, and your bios is uncooporative
[17:56] <archenemy> ajoul: root privilege to do what?
[17:56] <TJ-> rhonabwy: This is the kind of thing you should see, but if the manufacturers are cheap or unprofessional, maybe they didn't bother: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6955630/
[17:57] <ajoul> archenemy copy files from one folder to another I get that I don't have priveledge and I dont want to use command line to do that because I might mess up something
[17:57] <rhonabwy> maybe a shotgun will help an convince it ...
[17:57] <ajoul> archenemy How do I gain root priveledge in the ubuntu GUI?
[17:57] <archenemy> gksudo?
[17:57] <rhonabwy> manufacturer: unkown, type unknown, serial unknown etc, only size is 2048 and speed is 667
[17:57] <archenemy> jeez, i haven't really played around with that normally i would just use the command line man
[17:58] <ajoul> archenemy I copy files like cp folder-from folder-to?
[17:58] <nichlas> rhonabwy: if it is 667 there is a very good chance that it's DDR2
[17:59] <archenemy> ajoul: yeah aint so bad.
[17:59] <rhonabwy> yeah i hope so, i have two additional modules with 800mhz here to send them, hopefully they are compatible
[18:02] <Scryptonium> hello everyone
[18:02] <TJ-> rhonabwy: Use "lscpu" and look at the "CPU MHz" - that should be the FSB
[18:02] <TJ-> rhonabwy: At least here I'm seeing 800MHz, and the CPU is 2.6GHz
[18:03] <archenemy> Hey guys, i'm trying to install Ubuntu on my macbook pro (8,1) no luck finding a compatible version or a how to guide. kinda scared to jump in. anybody tried this?
[18:03] <rhonabwy> TJ 1998.000
[18:03] <Scryptonium> what is the difference between sudo and gksudo?
[18:03] <nichlas> Scryptonium: gksudo is graphical
[18:03] <TJ-> rhonabwy: Maybe not then :)
[18:04] <TJ-> rhonabwy: I was pretty sure this CPU was at max when I ran the command :)
[18:04] <rhonabwy> i guess i'll go with the shotgun solution, either myself or the tower
[18:04] <Scryptonium> i see, but what happens if i use sudo for a graphical programm because it seems to work tough
[18:05] <yash069> rhonabwy: sudo lshw -short -C memory
[18:05] <archenemy> nichlas: here ya go. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[18:05] <rhonabwy> yash no additional information, 2 modules with 2GB at 667MHz
[18:06] <Scryptonium> ty very much for your response!!
[18:06] <nichlas> Scryptonium: yes, it is only to make the entering of password a bit more pretty :)
[18:06] <rhonabwy> best way, screwdriver next weekend ;) ty
[18:06] <yash069> 667 can be DDR or DDR2 :|
[18:08] <anth0ny> Is there any major reason why I would be able to see a process via 'sudo /etc/init.d/jenkins status' but not with 'sudo service jenkins status' ?
[18:09] <SirCmpwn> so I copied my ssh keypair from arch linux into ~/.ssh on ubuntu, but I can't seem to ssh anywhere with it
[18:09] <TJ-> rhonabwy: "sudo apt-get install i2c-tools" then "sudo modprobe eeprom && sudo decode-dimms"
[18:09] <SirCmpwn> I used `ssh -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa server.com` and get denied publickey
[18:09] <anth0ny> For some reason, going through 'service' does not work when trying to manage my application ('Jenkins')
[18:09] <tru23> Hi, I need help with a black screen problem during boot in 13.10 livecd. I can boot 12.04 fine using nomodeset, but I can't make it work on 13.10
[18:10] <tongcx> hi guys, why do we need keys for apt?
[18:11] <SirCmpwn> I checked ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the host, and the key is there for sure
[18:11] <tru23> I already tried both 32 and 64 bit versions, and acpi settings. I have switchable graphics with an AMD card
[18:11] <llutz> tongcx: to make sure you can trust the packages  apt loads
[18:13] <Homely_Girl> General quessie plse:- I'm I'm planning to buy a webcam to use in Ubuntu for various applications including Skype, is there a particular brand I should go for? I've gotten rid of windows 'n want to get Skype up 'n running with webcam
[18:17] <tongcx> llutz: why url of the repository not suffice?
[18:17] <nichlas> tongcx: it is easy to redirect a user to a false repository
[18:17] <tongcx> nichlas: how to do so?
[18:18] <Gl4di4t0r> I get denied when I try copy files to /etc/openvpn why is that?
[18:18] <nichlas> tongcx: DNS hijacking for one
[18:18] <LoveLinux> hello
[18:18] <LoveLinux> Hi all!. I got a really odd problem, using NFS sometimes my clients are seeing OLD data via NFS mount and I cant figure out why, anyone have any pointers?
[18:18] <nichlas> Gl4di4t0r: do you remember to sudo?
[18:18] <llutz> Gl4di4t0r:it needs root/sudo to write into /etc
[18:18] <tongcx> nichlas: i c, makes sense
[18:18] <streulma> hello, can you help me installing ubuntu 13.10 with EFI partition, I'm not so familiar with it.
[18:19] <LoveLinux> tried to ask in #linux but no permission to speak in there? :(
[18:19] <nichlas> tongcx: you can still use repos without installing keys, but the system will bug you all the time :)
[18:19] <LoveLinux> i have added lookupcache=none to mount options but it didnt help
[18:19] <Gl4di4t0r> nichlas llutz: I'm using the filemanager...
[18:20] <nichlas> LoveLinux: there can be cache both at the client and the server
[18:20] <llutz> Gl4di4t0r: it needs root/gksudo too
[18:20] <anth0ny> Q: For some reason, going through 'service' does not work when trying to manage my application ('Jenkins') (on Ububtu), any thoughts as to why?
[18:21] <Gl4di4t0r> llutz: please guide me :)
[18:21] <LoveLinux> nichlas, OH, wow didnt know that. How can i configure the cache on the server?
[18:21] <llutz> Gl4di4t0r: "gksudo nautilus"   then copy your stuff
[18:21] <LoveLinux> nichlas, just point me towards a page where i can read and i'll RTFM
[18:22] <nichlas> LoveLinux: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/23408/is-there-a-command-which-will-force-linux-to-flush-cache-of-one-file-on-an-nfs-s
[18:22] <martin___> hi there
[18:22] <Gl4di4t0r> wtf does "gksudo nautilus" do???
[18:22] <LoveLinux> Nichlas, thank you very much
[18:22] <nichlas> LoveLinux: it details setting cache on client and server. Apparently it can be done wrong
[18:22] <michagogo|cloud> Gl4di4t0r: Opens up a file browser as root
[18:22] <streulma> ok, solved
[18:22] <martin___> how can i detect, how my bluetooth driver is called, please?
[18:22] <Zeranoe> So is unity bascially just a new skin/theme for GNOME?
[18:22] <tongcx> nichlas: how to hijack a dns?
[18:22] <martin___> ubuntu unity 12.10
[18:22] <LoveLinux> nichlas,  yeah mine randomly caches and its causing chaos
[18:23] <martin___> Zeranoe: Unity is a Compiz plugin, currently
[18:23] <nichlas> tongcx: i don't know the details :) try looking at wikipedia
[18:23] <streulma> martin___ lspci
[18:23] <tongcx> nichlas: :)
[18:23] <martin___> thanks
[18:23] <nichlas> tongcx: but the fact that it is possible convinces me that keys are a good idea :)
[18:24] <LoveLinux> Nichlas, thank you will try that, i already have the apache stuff in place, the cto stuff is new to. Odd thing is if i can the file in a terminal its cached, if i touch it, the contents update
[18:25] <Gl4di4t0r> michagogo|cloud: is there some way to do this just using the GUI ?
[18:25] <LoveLinux> nichlas,  sorry i mean if i CAT the file its the cached contents, if I touch the file, the contents update as they appear on the NFS server
[18:25] <streulma> martin___ or lsusb, there I see my bluetooth adapter
[18:26] <suess> grr!
[18:27] <martin___> lspci does not list a bluetooth device
[18:27] <martin___> streulma: thanks
[18:27] <martin___> it works :)
[18:28] <suess> well it would be cool to get video drivers... im pretty sure mobility m7 7500 is supported :(
[18:28] <martin___> streulma: and how i can detect the name of the driver please? :)
[18:28] <Zeranoe> martin___: That seems like a bad idea. Didn't most distros drop Compiz support because it isn't being maintained?
[18:29] <LoveLinux> guys, how comes i cant write in #linux, is it invite only?
[18:29] <LoveLinux> hello
[18:29] <martin___> Zeranoe: It is not anymore maintained, because ubuntu drop it
[18:29] <LoveLinux> oh its invite only
[18:29] <martin___> Unity next is a complete rewrite in qt
[18:30] <nichlas> LoveLinux: you probably have to be identified on FreeNode
[18:30] <martin___> nichlas is right
[18:30] <Zeranoe> martin___: That makes sense
[18:30] <rostam> Hi I am using ubuntu desktop 12.04. After sudden shutdown, I am not able to login. After entering the password, for a moment it seems It seems I am in, but then it goes back to login shell. So I do not think the issue is password. Any help greatly appreiciated please? thx
[18:30] <LoveLinux> nichlas, ah sorry last time i was on IRC was back in efnet days, around 10 years ago.. thanks
[18:30] <ajoul> HOW TO SEARCH FOR A KEYWORD IN ALL FILES INSIDE A FOLDER?
[18:30] <ajoul> sorry caps
[18:30] <LoveLinux> ajoul: grep
[18:30] <jordan__> anyone know any good applications for lnux
[18:31] <LoveLinux> jordan, to do what?
[18:31] <ajoul> LoveLinux show me an example
[18:31] <Broseph> whats a good gaming channel
[18:31] <Pici> !alis
[18:31] <jordan__> just good applications in general
[18:31] <Pici> jordan__: could you ask a vauger question?
[18:31] <LoveLinux> ajoul, to search for egg in all files       grep -i "egg" *
[18:31] <nichlas> jordan__: LibreOffice is a good application :)
[18:31] <jordan__> games browsers ... anything really
[18:31] <LoveLinux> ajoul, thats case insensative so slow, remove -i if you know case to speed it up
[18:32] <jordan__> thanks ill have a look
[18:32] <LoveLinux> jordal: if you explain what you want to do, we can name thousands
[18:32] <streulma> ajoul: find /directory -name <name> | grep <keyword>
[18:32] <jordan__> okay how about some good games
[18:32] <LoveLinux> jordan: sed is an amazing command
[18:32] <nichlas> my current favorite is turses ;)
[18:33] <LoveLinux> best command EVER is "tmux"
[18:33] <ajoul> streulma this will look inside all files or just directories?
[18:33] <nichlas> bb is also fun
[18:33] <LoveLinux> have used linux for many many years and thats a great recent find for me
[18:33] <Pici> ajoul: if you want to look recursively through directories use the +R argument
[18:33] <LoveLinux> ajoul grep is what you want to use try "man grep"
[18:33] <streulma> ajoul: or just: find /directory | grep <keyword>
[18:34] <ajoul> LoveLinux it doesn't work what you showed me
[18:34] <LoveLinux> ajoul, whats the error?
[18:34] <ajoul> LoveLinux it doesn't return
[18:34] <ajoul> LoveLinux I run it on a folder with 1 file with 1 line which is what I want to find
[18:34] <LoveLinux> ajoul, first, are you in the directory you want to search?, second, doesn't return = its searching
[18:35] <ajoul> I am in directory I want to search
[18:35] <LoveLinux> ok how big is hte file?
[18:35] <ajoul> 10 bytes
[18:35] <LoveLinux> ok what do you want to search for ?
[18:36] <ajoul> I am doing cd myDirectory
[18:36] <ajoul> grep "Bit"
[18:36] <LoveLinux> so word "Bit" is in file?, can you type "cat <filename>" to check
[18:36] <Pici> ajoul: you need to provide a second argument to grep
[18:36] <LoveLinux> ajoul    "grep Bit <filename>"
[18:37] <ajoul> well I am going to run this on a folder with 1,000 files but it must first work on one file
[18:37] <ajoul> and I need it to search recursively
[18:37] <LoveLinux> ajoul OR            grep "Bit" *
[18:37] <Pici> ajoul: then grep "Bit" somefile , or grep -R "Bit" *
[18:37] <LoveLinux> thats ok
[18:37] <ajoul> ok works thanks a lot LoveLinux
[18:37] <LoveLinux> np bro
[18:37] <LoveLinux> we'er all here to learn or help
[18:38] <nineball> wit-v2.23a-r4534-i386.tar.gz how to install?
[18:38] <nichlas> !tarball
[18:38] <LoveLinux> nineball.... gtar zxcf wit-v2.23a-r4534-i386.tar.gz cd wit-v2.23a-r4534-i386
[18:38] <LoveLinux> nineball, then make the app or whatever the app requires (is there a readme?)
[18:38] <nineball> i have in a folder
[18:39] <LoveLinux> i thought ubuntu has great repo's, what you doing getting source of that? :D