[11:05] <robin_2> elvirolo: hmm strange, I can't see the musicbrainz support anymore.
[11:05] <hornsby> Kamping_Kaiser, tell me about google
[11:05] <elvirolo> i think one has to recompile a library
[11:06] <robin_2> elvirolo: RC1 did have musicbrainz, they probably disabled it for some reason.
[11:06] <somez_> hornsby, yes
[11:06] <somez_> th enet is working
[11:06] <elvirolo> robin_2: hmm... never worked for me
[11:07] <somez_> I think the system swtiched the name of the interfaces
[11:07] <elvirolo> are we talking about mp3's ?
[11:07] <somez_> eth0 became eth2 and eth1 became eth0
[11:07] <somez_> so the internt now comes via eth0
[11:07] <hornsby> that happens during upgrades
[11:07] <somez_> and my eth1 disappeared
[11:07] <somez_> now it's named eth2
[11:07] <somez_> now I must change my sources.lst to the breezy repos
[11:07] <somez_> thank you very very much for your help
[11:08] <robin_2> elvirolo: at least I thought I saw something of musicbrainz in RC1, but I never used it though.
[11:08] <hornsby> you can fixe this by editing a file with corresponding mac address and interface, i can't remember the name, i look for it
[11:09] <somez_> how should I edit my repository list to represent the breezy sources?
[11:09] <hornsby> yes
[11:10] <elvirolo> uh my scanner doesn't work EITHER
[11:10] <elvirolo> i'm so fed up
[11:10] <hornsby> somez_, hoary becomes breezy
[11:11] <elvirolo> i've spent HOURS filing bug reports and now musicbrainz doesn't work, my printer doesn't work, my scanner doesn't work (although they both did under hoary) and my webcam doesn't work out of the box
[11:11] <somez_> ok thanks
[11:11] <robin_2> elvirolo: true, there a lot of bugs, including some new ones reintroduced after RC1, so this release is a little bit fucked up.
[11:12] <_sam> I'm already considering having to re-install the whole thing.
[11:12] <cave> wtf i cant log on as root >_>
[11:13] <robin_2> elvirolo: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuBreezyReleaseComments <= I think there should be a sub release to fix all thos eproblems.
[11:13] <robin_2> !root
[11:13] <ubotu> it has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:13] <robin_2> !sudo
[11:13] <ubotu> rumour has it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:14] <xuniL_> gett a error while i ./configure can you help?
[11:14] <xuniL_> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[11:14] <xuniL_> See `config.log' for more detail
[11:15] <xuniL_> ?
[11:16] <somez_> this is strange
[11:16] <somez_> I did a dist-upgrade again, with breezy sources
[11:16] <somez_> and it removed some packages
[11:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell me about backports
[11:16] <somez_> I don't know why
[11:17] <hornsby> somez_, why a dist-upgarde if you already had breezy ?
[11:17] <somez_> because I wanted to be sure
[11:17] <hornsby> sudo apt-get update should have been enought
[11:17] <somez_> and you see, I still have some packages to install
[11:20] <robin_2> anyone got the kio_ipodslave working ?
[11:21] <cave> " Applications --> System Tools --> Run as different user." where is that menu?
[11:22] <cave> 6:20am....maybe ijust need to get some sleep and then it wont be so hard anymore :)
[11:22] <elvirolo> does anyone use kooka ?
[11:22] <robin_2> elvirolo: yes
[11:22] <elvirolo> robin_2: could youn tell me where to find it in the menu ?
[11:23] <robin_2> within the graphics sub-menu
[11:24] <elvirolo> uuuuh of course i don't have it
[11:24] <elvirolo> although kooka is installed
[11:26] <robin_2> elvirolo: I thought it was installed by default.
[11:26] <elvirolo> maybe it is
[11:26] <robin_2> elvirolo: maybe relogin.
[11:26] <elvirolo> anyway it's not in the menu
[11:26] <elvirolo> i've already tried that
[11:34] <mustard5> how do you check your keyboard layout in KDE?
[11:39] <robin_2> !kswap.h
[11:39] <ubotu> robin_2: I give up, what is it?
[11:39] <robin_2> ubotu: it is missing.
[11:39] <ubotu> robin_2: I think you lost me on that one
[11:40] <tenco> still cant print with breezy. cupsd always tells me about false perms of /dev/lp0
[11:41] <tenco> but how can i change them permanently, lp0 is created again on each boot
[11:43] <xuniL_> can someone help me this this error... then i am compileing:
[11:43] <xuniL_> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[11:44] <xuniL_> =
[11:44] <hornsby> somez_, the assign persistents names to network interfaces, edit /etc/iftab file
[11:44] <xuniL_> ?
[11:44] <robin_2> xuniL_: are you using the right compiler ?
[11:44] <robin_2> xuniL_: for the same architecture.
[11:44] <robin_2> xuniL_: as your CPU
[11:45] <xuniL_> dunno
[11:45] <xuniL_> dont know
[11:45] <robin_2> xuniL_: the error discription is not specific enough to give you a solution.
[11:46] <xuniL_> paste full ./configure?
[11:46] <robin_2> xuniL_: not here :)
[11:46] <xuniL_> bastebin.com
[11:46] <robin_2> xuniL_: k
[11:47] <xuniL_> http://pastebin.com/394283
[11:48] <gibarian> So...is the media:/ problem going to be solved in the near future?
[11:48] <xuniL_> any clue robin_2
[11:49] <robin_2> xuniL_: I will take a look.
[11:49] <xuniL_> k
[11:49] <hornsby> gibarian, it work for me :S
[11:49] <hornsby> did you do fresh install ??
[11:49] <robin_2> gibarian: I hope so, it is *** problem.
[11:50] <robin_2> when I connect my ipod, I even get 4 error windows in konqueror.. :/
[11:50] <hornsby> gibarian, some people like me don't have the problem. I did an upgrade from Hoary, not a fresh install
[11:50] <robin_2> xuniL_: hmm, do you have gcc installed ?
[11:50] <xuniL_> yes...
[11:50] <robin_2> hornsby: I did a fresh install, BUT the RC1 didn't have the problem.
[11:50] <xuniL_> gcc 4.0
[11:51] <xuniL_> and g++
[11:51] <hornsby> it should be fixed soon, bugzilla report !!
[11:51] <robin_2> xuniL_: hmm, try to create a simple C program, and compile it with gcc.
[11:52] <xuniL_> like what?
[11:52] <robin_2> xuniL_: I can't help you further, sry.
[11:52] <xuniL_> k np
[11:52] <robin_2> xuniL_: like something you write for yourself ;) helloworld will be just fine.
[11:52] <hornsby> xuniL_, did you try the direct command with gcc, without configure ?
[11:53] <xuniL_> no..
[11:53] <hornsby> maybe you should
[11:53] <hornsby> xuniL_, any make file ??
[11:53] <xuniL_> yes
[11:54] <xuniL_> i will try with them..
[11:54] <hornsby>  yep
[11:54] <spiral> hi
[11:59] <Wes> hi spiral
[12:01] <redline> hi .. anybody know who to get wine working ?
[12:01] <gibarian> hornsby: Well, me too.  I'm a weirdo? ha, j/k
[12:02] <redline> can sombody het me with wine ? plz add my msn ---------><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:02] <hornsby> gibarian, noo, the proble
[12:03] <gibarian> hornsby: well, the funny thing is, the media stuff still worked when I upgraded to the RC, but once I had installed the proper breezy packets, it was borked
[12:03] <gibarian> and kaffeine is terribly broken...
[12:03] <hornsby> gibarian, what I did after upgrading was to remove the ./kde directory after saving my emails of course, since that, no problems
[12:04] <hornsby> but I'm not sure if that is the good fix
[12:04] <gibarian> hornsby: why would you want to do that? Didn't that wipe out all you preferences, settings, etc.?
[12:04] <hornsby> sure it did
[12:05] <gibarian> well, that's no solution for me then :)
[12:05] <hornsby> i thought so :)
[12:05] <hornsby> then let's hope it will be fixed soon
[12:06] <hornsby> vote for the bug in bugzilla if you want it to be fixed asap
[12:07] <gibarian> well, some guy yesterday said it's point 2 on the to be fixed list...so I'm positive it'll sooner or later work out
[12:07] <gibarian> by the way, anyone else get a FATAL ext2 module not found error when booting with the new kernel?
[12:11] <gibarian> alright, tought so...
[12:20] <quby> anybody can help me? i have integrated soundcard and the subwoofer dond'work
[12:20] <atle> hello, I have, and just installed on my laptop. A HP NX7010. So far So Good
[12:21] <puckman> I downloaded the preview release last week
[12:21] <puckman> but found several issues so gave up on it
[12:21] <puckman> has that pesky no admin bug been fixed?
[12:21] <atle> I tried that one, but it was kind of buggy for me
[12:22] <puckman> Ah, and the final release is better?
[12:22] <quby> i have read meny forums but i can't do the sound
[12:22] <atle> so far yes
[12:22] <puckman> cool
[12:22] <Gingillo> Hi, i need help with installing kubuntu
[12:22] <atle> hehe
[12:22] <puckman> I have been using ubuntu for ages
[12:23] <puckman> mostly because people said gnome is better
[12:23] <puckman> but I like kde a lot more
[12:23] <atle> I don't like gnome
[12:23] <atle> but that's just me
[12:23] <puckman> Well downloading amarok sort of made my mind up
[12:24] <puckman> sound apps for ubuntu suck
[12:24] <puckman> amarok ... well rocks.
[12:24] <atle> but i'm a neewbi, so what do i know :-)
[12:24] <puckman> Hey same here
[12:24] <Gingillo> The problem is: When i try to install the NEW release of kubuntu, The installation goes, i push enter, and then appears the message "Unpacking linux...OK  Building kernel, i waited for hours, and it don't goes on, wath must i do?"
[12:25] <atle> is this on a empty drive, or are you trying to upgrade?
[12:25] <_sam> I wish they released itunes for linux.
[12:26] <puckman> wont happen for a long time
[12:26] <_sam> Yeah, I don't really think so either.
[12:26] <Gingillo> IS an empity drive, i frist tryed to install kubuntu, but now i'm on mandrake
[12:26] <_sam> Well, I could switch to osx.
[12:27] <puckman> lol
[12:27] <puckman> i just switched from osx to linux
[12:27] <puckman> been using mac's since 85
[12:27] <puckman> even worked at apple for a while
[12:27] <_sam> Oh, why did you switch then?
[12:28] <_sam> Wanna save money?
[12:28] <puckman> tired of osx
[12:28] <Gingillo> So, who can help me??
[12:28] <puckman> I'm an it manager and i ave learned more about osx by using linux
[12:29] <puckman> because on linux you are forced to dive under the hood so to say
[12:29] <puckman> on the mac everything works out of the box so you dont learn anything new
[12:29] <Gingillo> Hey!! Is this an help channel or not? lol
[12:30] <inc|freaky> what is the best virus-scanner for linux which also fixes found viruses?
[12:32] <Wes> can you rephrase the question Gingillo ?
[12:32] <Wes> are you saying the kernel doesnt even load?
[12:34] <puckman> This is a help channel?
[12:34] <puckman> I thought it was just a hang out
[12:35] <jsubl2> Gingillo: at the boot screen try hitting the F2 key and reading about the boot options.. might have to try booting with acpi=off or something
[12:36] <Gingillo> The problem is: When i try to install the NEW release of kubuntu, The installation goes, i push enter, and then appears the message "Unpacking linux...OK  Building kernel, i waited for hours, and it don't goes on, wath must i do?"
[12:36] <Firetech> hmm
[12:36] <Gingillo> sorry i went to lunch
[12:36] <jsubl2> Gingillo: at the boot screen try hitting the F2 key and reading about the boot options.. might have to try booting with acpi=off or something
[12:36] <Gingillo> mmh Ok.. why? :P
[12:36] <puckman> i'm with jsubl2 on that
[12:36] <puckman> on my thinkpad i had to run the installer as save vga
[12:36] <puckman> or something like that
[12:37] <jsubl2> Gingillo: could be a kernel issue or something and that would help narrow it down
[12:37] <Firetech> I've upgraded to breezy, but forgot to install the kubuntu-desktop package before I did it (I don't want anacron and powernowd), now I can't install kubuntu-desktop because ksystemlog depends on the wrong packages... What to do?
[12:37] <Firetech> *install
[12:40] <Firetech> ksystemlog depends on kdelibs4 (should be kdelibs4c2) and libqt3c102-mt (should be libqt3-mt)
[12:47] <Firetech> hmm, my problems were based on a third party repo (dinton)
[12:52] <atle> where do i get codecs/packs to view divx/xvid?
[12:53] <jsubl2> i got mine at http://www2.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20050412.tar.bz2
[12:54] <atle> thx
[12:56] <Somez> re everyone!
[12:56] <Somez> I'm experiencing a very strange bug using kmail...
[12:57] <Somez> after breezy upgrade
[12:57] <Tm_T> go on
[12:57] <elvirolo> hi all
[12:57] <Somez> when I try to download the mails from pop3 server, it says: couldn't start this process: pop3
[12:57] <Somez> actually this is just the english translation of the error msg
[12:57] <Somez> the account settings are ok in kmail
[12:58] <elvirolo> does anyone use ktabedit here ?
[12:58] <asraniel> why does konqueror always crash if there is a video or so on a webpage where we dont have the codec?
[12:58] <Gingillo> Hi, i need help.. :\
[12:58] <elvirolo> me too
[12:59] <Gingillo> When i try to install I see this words "Unpacking linux...OK Building kernel" And than nothing.. i waited for hours
[01:03] <Gingillo> Can i get help?
[01:04] <jairbubbles> any pb with amarok, mine is not working anymore !
[01:06] <peixoto> hi all. Just upgraded to Breezy, but I cant find the launchpad integration. Package "launchpad-integration" is installed, but nothing appears in the menu. Is it gnome only ? :-(
[01:07] <pointwood> I could imagine it was
[01:09] <peixoto> jairbbbles, my amarokis still working perfectly (even after the upgrade). What are your symptoms ? When did it stop working (after some update in your system) ?
[01:09] <gibarian> jairbubbles: problem with gstreamer?
[01:10] <_atle> i think i'll try vlc
[01:11] <jairbubbles> gibarian: i don't know it just can't launch
[01:12] <Somez> guys what is this? -> "kmail: ERROR: : couldn't create slave :"
[01:12] <gibarian> jairbubbles: what does it say? tried running from konsole?
[01:12] <Somez> that's the error from kmail
[01:12] <Somez> it says, it couldn't creat an io rubprocess
[01:12] <jairbubbles> amaroK: [Loader]  amarokapp probably crashed!
[01:12] <Somez> subprocess
[01:13] <_atle> and we have vlc working, this is great. :-)
[01:18] <_shay> hy all
[01:18] <jairbubbles> gibarian: i'm trying to reinstall to see what happens
[01:30] <pipoun> hey! I've upgraded to breezy and I don't find k3b anymore
[01:30] <pipoun> Is it normal?
[01:32] <omar> Where can i get dc++ client for my kubuntu ?
[01:40] <xuniL_> where are the source.list?
[01:40] <xuniL_> found?
[01:41] <Firetech> isn't there an update notifier for kubuntu?
[01:42] <xuniL_> found it
[01:43] <brosioz> how could i permit to my user alex to write in /var/www ?
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> brosioz: add them to a relevent group, or change the perms on varwww
[01:46] <brosioz> how
[01:46] <brosioz> adduser alex var-www
[01:47] <brosioz> not works
[01:59] <omar> How can i take a print screen ?
[02:12] <shampoo> Hi everyone
[02:13] <shampoo> When I log into my Kubuntu Breezy laptop, I have to enable the PCM sound in Volume Control. When I log out, it sets itself back to off.. Anyway to get it to save its settings ?
[02:36] <ep> Some packges I install do not get added to the K menu.  Anything I can do?  Something to install to get the Debian submenu working?
[02:50] <xxenon_> hello, I just installed 5.10
[02:50] <xxenon_> but I got problems setting up my nvidia card. I get an Input/Output error on /dev/nvidia0
[02:57] <manel> hola a tod@s
[02:57] <manel> alguien altruista que me pueda echar una mano?
[02:59] <CellarDoor> hi folks
[02:59] <manel> hi everybody
[02:59] <manel> sorry
[03:00] <manel> I am Spanish and I don't see that this site is International
[03:00] <manel> I need help?
[03:01] <manel> I can not play MP3 on my AMAROK and my KAFFEINNE
[03:01] <manel> someone can help me?
[03:01] <CellarDoor> hmm
[03:01] <mrmarcel> i have the same problem ^^
[03:05] <CellarDoor> do I need to add new repos to update to breezy ?
[03:05] <manel> I play the play list that it in amarok perfectly
[03:06] <CellarDoor> no problems with mp3's here
[03:06] <shiv> How do I adjust firefox fonts all are so small I am not able to fix the toolbar fonts plz help
[03:06] <manel> i have breezy
[03:07] <CellarDoor> I haven't upgraded yet
[03:07] <manel> yes I am upgaded
[03:08] <manel> I instaled all the Stremer packages
[03:14] <CellarDoor> amarok and kaffeine now use gstreamer by default it seems
[03:16] <CellarDoor> uhm... do I need to add any new repositories to my sources list to upgrade to breezy ?
[03:17] <ep> What category is it under or what is the name of KDE's calculator?
[03:17] <CellarDoor> utilities
[03:18] <CellarDoor> Kcalc
[03:18] <Mez> ep: if you want a simple calculator, use xcalc
[03:19] <NSK> KMenu->Utilities->Calculator
[03:19] <seaLne> !alternatives java
[03:19] <ubotu> Wish i knew, seaLne
[03:19] <seaLne> !alternatives
[03:19] <ubotu> seaLne: What?
[03:20] <seaLne> !update-alternatives
[03:20] <ubotu> seaLne: What?
[03:20] <seaLne> ubotu: ok i'll google instead :P
[03:20] <ubotu> seaLne: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[03:23] <omar> Where can i get c++ compiler
[03:23] <ep> I'll check out xcalc Mez, thanks
[03:23] <omar> or somthink cc
[03:23] <NSK> gcc
[03:23] <omar> Jamm
[03:23] <omar> YEs
[03:23] <omar> http://skype.com/products/skype/linux/
[03:23] <NSK> http://gcc.gnu.org
[03:23] <omar> wo
[03:24] <omar> NSK i am from iceland can you gife me download link on gcc please
[03:25] <NSK> wait
[03:26] <omar> np
[03:27] <[Pixels] > i just have a quick question, if anyone wouldnt mind trying to give me an answer :)
[03:27] <CellarDoor> hello !
[03:27] <[Pixels] > at the moment I run debian sid (unstable) and I use the 2.4 kernel, due to hotplug giving problems w/ a 2.6 kernel
[03:27] <manel> Cellar I can send for you my sources.list
[03:27] <[Pixels] > is there anyway to run kubuntu with a 2.4 kernel :)
[03:28] <CellarDoor> ok thanks manel
[03:28] <manel> do you need
[03:28] <manel> Callar
[03:28] <CellarDoor> [Pixels] : hmm sounds like alot of fiddling around
[03:28] <NSK> omar: what computer do you have? i386, i686, or x86_64 ?
[03:28] <omar> i386
[03:28] <ep> What's the fix for konsole's use of non-fixed width fonts, my fonts look bad even after I customize em.
[03:28] <[Pixels] > the instance of hotplugging that causes the kernel failure is pci
[03:28] <kyaneos> hi
[03:28] <CellarDoor> manel: I just want to see If I need to update my sources list to upgrade to breezy
[03:29] <manel> yes
[03:29] <manel> if you have hoary
[03:29] <[Pixels] > do you know if the kernel kubuntu comes with default, has maximum pci modules enabled?
[03:29] <manel> you need to change your sources,list
[03:29] <CellarDoor> ah rite
[03:29] <NSK> here I found a precompiled package for i686 GNU/Linux: ftp://ftp.thewrittenword.com/packages/by-name/gcc-3.4.3/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-3.4.3.rpm4.tar.Z
[03:30] <[Pixels] > use the source, its more fun :)
[03:30] <seaLne> omar: apt-get install g++
[03:30] <NSK> i686 runs on computers with PentiumII chip or newer
[03:30] <CellarDoor> [Pixels] : ah thats a bit beyond me atm
[03:30] <seaLne> NSK: there are packages strangely enough
[03:30] <[Pixels] > yes, but i686 is geared more towards p4 chips
[03:30] <[Pixels] > but will run on p2/p3/p4/celeron
[03:31] <[Pixels] > when in question, always go for the i386 package :)
[03:31] <[Pixels] > atleast thats my motto.
[03:31] <[Pixels] > CellarDoor: thanks for the help though, not many people have had my problem.
[03:32] <omar> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[03:32] <omar> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[03:32] <[Pixels] > i've bugged it on the debian bug tracking system, and most other distro's that i've tried.
[03:32] <ep> I've got AMD k7, so when I install mplayer, I should choose the 386 package instead of 686, correct?
[03:32] <CellarDoor> manel: could you please tell me what I need to change it to for a breezy upgrade ?
[03:32] <[Pixels] > omar: you need to do sudo apt-get
[03:32] <NSK> omar: login as root, type su
[03:32] <[Pixels] > or su
[03:32] <[Pixels] > or sux
[03:32] <seaLne> omar: sorry sudo apt-get install g++
[03:32] <[Pixels] > i prefer sudo/sux
[03:32] <manel> change the word HOARY for the word BREEZY
[03:33] <manel> into your sources.list
[03:33] <manel> after
[03:33] <manel> open KYNAPTIC
[03:34] <omar> work thank you :D
[03:34] <manel> upgrade the packages
[03:34] <manel> and upgrade the system
[03:34] <[Pixels] > or if you run synaptic you can edit the repository right from there.
[03:34] <[Pixels] > you will want to do a apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:34] <[Pixels] > those are always fun.
[03:34] <manel> Yes PIXELS
[03:34] <[Pixels] > atleast they are on debian
[03:35] <manel> cellar want to upgrade for BREEZY
[03:35] <kyaneos> hi
[03:35] <EcksEightySix> anyone had any problem running Firefox 1.5b2 on Kubuntu Breezy (fresh install) ? it's looking for libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:35] <kyaneos> i have a problem with Kubuntu breezy
[03:35] <EcksEightySix> woops sorry... its looking for libstdc++.so.5 and I only found a libstdc++.so.6 in /usr/lib
[03:35] <Chousuke> EcksEightySix: install libstdc++5
[03:35] <[Pixels] > hopefully, kubuntu will be awesome and not cause kernel faults :)
[03:35] <kyaneos> i can not view special caracters like the sharp, etc..
[03:36] <Chousuke> EcksEightySix: or something like tha.
[03:36] <kyaneos> i have set the keyboard layout to es
[03:36] <EcksEightySix> chousuke, that won't create any conflict with libstdc++6 ?
[03:36] <[Pixels] > EcksEightySix: you need an older package
[03:36] <Chousuke> EcksEightySix: no, it won't
[03:36] <manel> kyaneos eres espaol?
[03:36] <[Pixels] > you can do a dkpg -i --force-overwrite <package name if it does
[03:37] <[Pixels] > but it shouldnt.
[03:37] <kyaneos> manel: si, del estado espanol
[03:37] <kyaneos> manel: tu tb??
[03:37] <EcksEightySix> ok, cool. thanks very much for the tip!
[03:37] <manel> si
[03:37] <Chousuke> kyaneos: manel: do not speak spanish here
[03:37] <manel> que te pasa
[03:37] <kyaneos> sorry
[03:37] <CellarDoor> ok thanks manel
[03:37] <manel> sorry CHOU
[03:37] <[Pixels] > trust me, i have to do that once or twice a day, running unstable
[03:37] <[Pixels] > :)
[03:37] <CellarDoor> I shall do that
[03:37] <Chousuke> there exists #ubuntu-es at least
[03:38] <manel> kyaneos you are available on the IRC chanel KUNBUNTU-ES
[03:38] <[Pixels] > 5.10 is breezy correct?
[03:38] <kyaneos> thank you very much
[03:38] <[CC] Punkrock> hello
[03:38] <[Pixels] > hi :)
[03:38] <[CC] Punkrock> i've got a problem...
[03:39] <EcksEightySix> [pixels] : 5.10 is breezy, yup
[03:39] <[CC] Punkrock> (as most ppl that come here probably)
[03:39] <[Pixels] > thanks.
[03:39] <[Pixels] > 1.5 hours until the .iso is done.
[03:39] <omar> Who can gife me a good link on FTP client not server ??
[03:39] <[Pixels] > then I get to test out my new burner in linux, should be a treat.
[03:39] <[CC] Punkrock> I've got the .iso on my pc
[03:39] <Tm_T> omar: konqueror ?
[03:39] <omar> Somethink
[03:40] <[CC] Punkrock> and i've written it on a cd as .iso
[03:40] <omar> Yes
[03:40] <[CC] Punkrock> but it wont boot...
[03:40] <[Pixels] > [CC] Punkrock: did you burn as an image?
[03:40] <NSK> omar: Konqueror and command-like ftp
[03:40] <[CC] Punkrock> i first accidentally burned it as a .iso
[03:40] <[Pixels] > did you also check the md5 checksum ?
[03:40] <Tm_T> NSK: and gftp
[03:40] <[CC] Punkrock> but i then extracted the .iso and burned it again
[03:40] <[CC] Punkrock> so i have the extracted files on a cd
[03:40] <omar> Where can i get konqueror
[03:40] <NSK> omar: also see http://kbear.sourceforge.net/
[03:40] <[Pixels] > and did you check the cd integrety?
[03:40] <[CC] Punkrock> fyi: i'm an absolute noob at linux...
[03:40] <NSK> another is http://kasablanca.berlios.de/
[03:41] <[CC] Punkrock> i've just started IT at school, and we're using linux
[03:41] <[Pixels] > www.linuxiso.org
[03:41] <[Pixels] > there is a guide there on the front page
[03:41] <[CC] Punkrock> thnx
[03:41] <NSK> Konqueror is in KDE, try http://www.konqueror.org/ to learn more about this program.
[03:41] <[Pixels] > on how to burn .iso's on many different systems.
[03:41] <[Pixels] > also, make sure you burn at a low speed
[03:41] <[Pixels] > like 4x or 8x
[03:41] <rodrigo> it's normal that xorg is using at least 35% of my cpu time?
[03:41] <manel> kyaneos you can see the "guia-ubuntu.org"
[03:41] <NSK> can I use DVD-RAM disks as hard drives on GNU/Linux without loading any special driver?
[03:41] <[Pixels] > rodrigo: depends on what you have running.
[03:41] <rodrigo> nothing special
[03:42] <rodrigo> just amsn
[03:42] <manel> and the site ubuntu-es.org for the problems or langueges
[03:42] <[Pixels] > then no, its not normal.
[03:42] <rodrigo> and superkaramba
[03:42] <NSK> rodrigo: my xorg doesn't use that much
[03:42] <[Pixels] > open up a console and type ps x
[03:42] <[Pixels] > see if anything tied to xorg is running
[03:42] <[Pixels] > then open up the task manager
[03:42] <[Pixels] > and double check.
[03:42] <rodrigo> I realised if I use superkaramba, xorg uses more cpu time
[03:42] <rodrigo> a lot more
[03:43] <[Pixels] > yes, karamba is a resource hog
[03:43] <rodrigo> now is using maybe 4%
[03:43] <rodrigo> with superkaramba 35-40 %
[03:43] <[Pixels] > i have 5 themes loaded
[03:43] <[Pixels] > :)
[03:43] <Tm_T> rodrigo: well, superkaramba uses cpu, and meter shows that as xorg using
[03:43] <[Pixels] > im at about 75% :)
[03:43] <rodrigo> but i don't thing is a great thing for my old laptop :(
[03:43] <[Pixels] > superkaramba is tied to xorg's resource consumption
[03:44] <Tm_T> yup
[03:44] <[Pixels] > thats why i suggested to check running processes :)
[03:44] <Tm_T> I never use superkarambe
[03:44] <omar> why can't i not do make and make install
[03:44] <Tm_T> a
[03:44] <Tm_T> torsmo <4
[03:44] <Tm_T> <3
[03:44] <[Pixels] > omar: do you have the make packages installed?
[03:44] <Tm_T> ok, now I'm dizzy enough ->
[03:44] <[CC] Punkrock> pixels: "there were 1154 errors while making sums"
[03:44] <omar> Dont kow
[03:45] <NSK> omar: type: which make
[03:45] <[Pixels] > thats not good.
[03:45] <omar> how can i install him
[03:45] <[Pixels] > lol
[03:45] <[Pixels] > [CC] Punkrock: thats from your iso ?
[03:45] <omar> I new in linux
[03:45] <[Pixels] > you may need to redownload/reburn it :(
[03:45] <omar> I am olways on fedora
[03:45] <NSK> omar: you use Kubuntu ?
[03:45] <[CC] Punkrock> i let md5summer run on the md5sum.txt file that's on my cd
[03:45] <[Pixels] > if you use fedora, you should goto their channel
[03:45] <[CC] Punkrock> and i cant really download it again, here in belgium we have download limits...
[03:45] <[Pixels] > [CC] Punkrock: you need to redownload the .iso
[03:45] <[CC] Punkrock> 10gb each 30 days
[03:46] <[Pixels] > ahh :(
[03:46] <omar> No i am using now kubuntu
[03:46] <NSK> omar: other channels you may like to join are #fedora and #linux and #linuxhelp and #redhat
[03:46] <[CC] Punkrock> btw, when i want to open it it already says:
[03:46] <[CC] Punkrock> the checksum you have selected contains one or more ASCII generated sums
[03:46] <omar> My old computer is on fedora i am now  on kubuntu
[03:46] <NSK> can Kubuntu 5.10 read DVD-RAM discs?
[03:47] <rodrigo> and what about ram usage?
[03:47] <[Pixels] > NSK debian can
[03:47] <[CC] Punkrock> and it gives an error for EVERY SINGLE ONE
[03:47] <[Pixels] > so i assume kubuntu can.
[03:47] <[CC] Punkrock> 1454 errors for 1454 sums
[03:47] <NSK> without a driver ?
[03:47] <rodrigo> I ve 448 MB ram and I'm using 410!
[03:47] <[Pixels] > hmm, that maybe a problem.
[03:47] <rodrigo> but I'm using almost nothing
[03:47] <[Pixels] > you could possibly have to build that.
[03:47] <omar> How can i install make packages ?
[03:47] <[Pixels] > omar i think if you do apt-get build-essentials
[03:48] <[Pixels] > it will grab it as a dependency
[03:48] <NSK> rodrigo: sometimes gnu/linux reserves memspace for buffers etc
[03:48] <[Pixels] > or something along that like
[03:48] <[Pixels] > you could do apt-cache search make
[03:48] <rodrigo> uf I thought kde was lighter than gnome
[03:48] <[Pixels] > that will list the packages that have make in the name/description/dependency
[03:48] <[CC] Punkrock> pixels, could it be something went wrong with the extraction?
[03:48] <omar> Pixels, Dont work
[03:48] <[CC] Punkrock> and that the downloaded iso is correct?
[03:49] <[Pixels] > [CC] Punkrock: it just could've been downloaded badly.
[03:49] <[Pixels] > did you use a download manager?
[03:49] <[CC] Punkrock> nope
[03:49] <[CC] Punkrock> just downloaded it with firefox
[03:49] <[CC] Punkrock> yesterday
[03:49] <[Pixels] > omar: do apt-cache search make
[03:49] <[Pixels] > [CC] Punkrock: i dunno, check the forums.
[03:49] <NSK> rodrigo: no but KDE offers many more features than gnome
[03:50] <[Pixels] > [CC] Punkrock: maybe someone can offer some assistance. there was a guide on there on how to boot from windows, to install kubuntu
[03:50] <[Pixels] > using grub-dos
[03:50] <[Pixels] > and some simple scripts.
[03:50] <omar> It found MUTS
[03:50] <[Pixels] > you could possibly try that..
[03:50] <[CC] Punkrock> on linuxiso.org?
[03:50] <[CC] Punkrock> or kubuntu site?
[03:50] <[Pixels] > kubuntu forums.
[03:50] <[CC] Punkrock> k
[03:50] <[CC] Punkrock> thnx
[03:50] <[Pixels] > i read about it today while browsing.
[03:50] <[Pixels] > i check a distro out before I try it :)
[03:51] <[Pixels] > plus I'm familiar with debian, so its not a big step up.
[03:51] <omar> Pixels, this search found muths
[03:51] <[CC] Punkrock> i'm kinda obligated to use kubuntu
[03:51] <[CC] Punkrock> cuz its the same distro we have in school
[03:51] <[CC] Punkrock> and i know shit about linux
[03:51] <[Pixels] > omar: let me check ral quick.
[03:51] <[Pixels] > ral = real
[03:51] <omar> how
[03:52] <[Pixels] > holy hell, thats alot of packages
[03:52] <[Pixels] > make - The GNU version of the "make" utility.
[03:52] <[Pixels] > try apt-get install make
[03:52] <[Pixels] > make should install the other dependencies as well.
[03:53] <[Pixels] > wow, i offer alot of support to a distro i havent used yet :P
[03:53] <[Pixels] > im like a god in here
[03:53] <[Pixels] > j/k
[03:54] <omar> omar@localhost:~/kbear-3.0alpha1b$ sudo apt-get install make
[03:54] <omar> Reading package lists... Done
[03:54] <omar> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:54] <omar> make is already the newest version.
[03:54] <omar> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:54] <omar> omar@localhost:~/kbear-3.0alpha1b$ make
[03:54] <omar> This came
[03:54] <[Pixels] > okay, its already installed then
[03:54] <omar> and see
[03:54] <[Pixels] > what happens when you type make?
[03:54] <[Pixels] > did you do ./configure first ?
[03:54] <[Pixels] > before doing the make
[03:54] <omar> yes
[03:55] <omar> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[03:55] <omar> omar@localhost:~/kbear-3.0alpha1b$
[03:55] <[Pixels] > hmm
[03:55] <[Pixels] > are you in the right directory ?
[03:55] <omar> Yes
[03:55] <[Pixels] > what are you trying to compile ?
[03:55] <_johan> anyone else having problems getting cedega to compile correctly using the WineCVS.sh-script?
[03:55] <omar> gFTP
[03:55] <[Pixels] > _johan
[03:55] <bdmp> [CC] Punkrock, What kind of school do you go to?
[03:55] <_johan> yes
[03:55] <[Pixels] > there is a problem with newer distro's
[03:55] <hater2win> hey all
[03:56] <NSK> omar: cd to the dir, type ./configure && make && make install
[03:56] <[Pixels] > anything over gcc 3.2 wont compile it
[03:56] <[Pixels] > there is a work around
[03:56] <[Pixels] > let me find it real quick
[03:56] <_johan> okay. thanks a lot
[03:56] <[Pixels] > i ran into the same problem
[03:56] <[Pixels] > gotta find the site again
[03:56] <[CC] Punkrock> i'm at my first year of profesional bachelor Information Technologies at the Xios School in Diepenbeek,Belgium
[03:56] <omar> I am compile kbear-3.0alpha1b-1.src.tar.bz2
[03:56] <bdmp> Wow, thats cool
[03:56] <bdmp> Just curios
[03:56] <[CC] Punkrock> lol
[03:56] <_johan> Pixels: if you tell me what you searched for, I can do that myself. I'm sure you've got funnier things to do
[03:57] <bdmp> I wish I had studied computers in school
[03:57] <[CC] Punkrock> its only 25mins (bus) from my place, and i really wanted to go into the IT world
[03:57] <[CC] Punkrock> but i cant seem to find what you sent me looking for pixels
[03:57] <[Pixels] > im waiting for a .iso to download
[03:57] <[Pixels] > i got time :)
[03:57] <hater2win> anybody know if vsftpd is better than proftpd? im having some trouble getting proftpd working but people say vsftpd is better anyway. any suggestions?
[03:57] <omar> NSK dont work beter
[03:57] <bdmp> I did japanese, so I learned alot about comps trying to use them as study tools
[03:57] <NSK> hater2win: I use vsftpd and I am very happy with it
[03:58] <_johan> Pixels: what iso?
[03:58] <hater2win> NSK: easy to set up?
[03:58] <hater2win> i mean not that it matters, lol. i would do what i needed to to set it up but, lol
[03:58] <omar> :S
[03:58] <[Pixels] > http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=94401
[03:58] <[Pixels] > its in french
[03:58] <NSK> hater2win: very very easy
[03:58] <[Pixels] > but the part you need is in english
[03:58] <[Pixels] > :)
[03:59] <[Pixels] > enjoy _johan
[03:59] <[Pixels] > kubuntu 5.10
[03:59] <[Pixels] > gonna try it.
[03:59] <_johan> thanks
[03:59] <[CC] Punkrock> btw pixels: can i install from windows to an empty unformatted disk?
[03:59] <hater2win> NSK: thanks for the enlightenment
[03:59] <[CC] Punkrock> ui just got myself a new sata 160 gb hdd today
[03:59] <[CC] Punkrock> on which i wanna install kubuntu
[03:59] <[CC] Punkrock> then back all data up on it
[03:59] <NSK> hater2win: the idea is you start it through xinetd, you set the runlevels, and you edit /etc/vsftpd.conf
[03:59] <[CC] Punkrock> and format my old hdd
[04:00] <[Pixels] > [CC] Punkrock: yeah, if you follow the directions.
[04:00] <[Pixels] > but if the .iso is corrupt, its not going to work
[04:00] <[Pixels] > :(
[04:00] <[CC] Punkrock> yeah, probably
[04:00] <[CC] Punkrock> i hate belgian providers with their stupid limits
[04:00] <_johan> oh..pixels: that's french. Will babelfish translate this good enough, or do I just need to look out for package names?
[04:00] <NSK> what limits?
[04:00] <bdmp> [CC] Punkrock, You want to burn an .iso on windows?
[04:00] <omar> help :(
[04:00] <[Pixels] > just scoll down johan
[04:00] <[Pixels] > the part you need is in code brackets
[04:00] <[Pixels] > and in english
[04:00] <[Pixels] > the remove gcc 4 part
[04:00] <[Pixels] > and installing the older gccc
[04:01] <[Pixels] > then creating the link
[04:01] <kihaji> is anyone else having issues running adept, I input my password and it says it requires root.
[04:01] <_johan> okay, I think I found it
[04:01] <[Pixels] > i had problems with my system saying there was no root user once
[04:01] <[Pixels] > that was fun.
[04:02] <[Pixels] > thats like an automatic reinstall
[04:02] <[Pixels] > coudlnt su/sux/sudo
[04:02] <[CC] Punkrock> if I download the DVD for kubuntu, that's 33% of my monthly limit...
[04:02] <kihaji> I can sudo on the commandline
[04:02] <[Pixels] > [CC] Punkrock: just get the regular cd.
[04:02] <kihaji> but adept wont let me.
[04:02] <[Pixels] > the install cd
[04:02] <[Pixels] > whats adept?
[04:02] <NSK> you have monthly limits?
[04:02] <[Pixels] > im not familiar with it.
[04:02] <[CC] Punkrock> thats the one i have :
[04:02] <[CC] Punkrock> yeah nsk
[04:02] <NSK> in Greece most connections are unlimited
[04:02] <[CC] Punkrock> in belgium all providers still have 10gb limits
[04:03] <bdmp> same in Japan
[04:03] <kihaji> package manager, think its the new synaptic for kubuntu
[04:03] <[CC] Punkrock> you can increase them to 50gb/month for 1 per gb
[04:03] <[Pixels] > i share my cable modem with everyone in my apartment complex
[04:03] <bdmp> america is hit or miss
[04:03] <[Pixels] > my bandwidth = crap
[04:03] <[CC] Punkrock> so it'll cost double if i want 50gb
[04:03] <bdmp> In Japan they are gettin fiber everywhere and it is cheaper than dsl
[04:03] <NSK> I pay 50-60 Euro per month for 384/128kbit ADSL with unlimited transfer
[04:03] <[Pixels] > im dl'ing the iso at 89.3 KB/sec
[04:03] <[CC] Punkrock> can i verify the iso itself without extracting it first?
[04:04] <[Pixels] > here in a month i can get fiberoptics :)
[04:04] <_johan> My dad gets 24mb/s broadband for $40 a month, 300gb limit
[04:04] <bdmp> where are you?
[04:04] <[Pixels] > _johan: thats impossible.
[04:04] <omar> Pixels why can i not do make and make install :S
[04:04] <[Pixels] > thats multifiberoptic.
[04:04] <NSK> bdmp: me?
[04:04] <[Pixels] > lol
[04:04] <_johan> Pixels: that's is possible. why shouldn't it?
[04:04] <[Pixels] > omar: do ls -a
[04:04] <bdmp> Sure but I meant [Pixels]
[04:04] <[Pixels] > see what is in the directory.
[04:05] <[CC] Punkrock> seems there is a 0byte file in the iso called ubuntu
[04:05] <[Pixels] > im in Illinois, USA
[04:05] <[CC] Punkrock> thats not good...
[04:05] <bdmp> NSK you are in greece you said right
[04:05] <bdmp> oh
[04:05] <omar> and
[04:05] <[Pixels] > afk a few, my brain needs nutrition
[04:06] <omar> ?
[04:06] <NSK> recently ISPs here started offering cheaper ADSL with 1GB or 3GB/month limit, but it sucks
[04:06] <[CC] Punkrock> hmz
[04:06] <[CC] Punkrock> seems the md5 on my pc IS correct
[04:07] <[CC] Punkrock> but the one on my cd isnt
[04:07] <[Pixels] > bad burn
[04:07] <[Pixels] > reburn at a slower speed
[04:07] <[CC] Punkrock> crap
[04:07] <[CC] Punkrock> there are 2 errors in it on my pc aswell
[04:07] <NSK> just create another dvd
[04:07] <[CC] Punkrock> is it still usable with 2 error sums?
[04:08] <[Pixels] > probably not
[04:08] <[Pixels] > but you can try..
[04:08] <[Pixels] > lol
[04:08] <[CC] Punkrock> its the netboot ones
[04:08] <[CC] Punkrock> i'm guessing i need those
[04:09] <[Pixels] > wish i could be mor helpfull [CC] Punkrock
[04:09] <[Pixels] > yeah, those are needed
[04:09] <[CC] Punkrock> i which my pc hadn't gone fubar after updating the ATI drivers
[04:09] <[CC] Punkrock> then i'd have all the time in the world for linux
[04:09] <[CC] Punkrock> but now i need to format my pc asap
[04:09] <[Pixels] > what happened with ati drivers?
[04:09] <[Pixels] > they are easy to install.
[04:09] <omar> Pixels i am finsish to do ls -a ehat then ?
[04:09] <[CC] Punkrock> every single driverupdate after 5.2 caused me nothing but trouble
[04:09] <[CC] Punkrock> (they're at 5.10 now)
[04:10] <[Pixels] > xorg or xfree ?
[04:10] <raingrove> [CC] Punkrock,
[04:10] <raingrove> u dont have to format
[04:10] <raingrove> if u have trouble getting into X widnows
[04:10] <[CC] Punkrock> i have tried removing drivers and going back to older ones ...
[04:10] <[CC] Punkrock> X windows?
[04:10] <[CC] Punkrock> eh?
[04:10] <raingrove> just press Alt+ctrl+F1
[04:10] <[Pixels] > you can do apt-get --purge fglrx
[04:10] <[CC] Punkrock> i'm talking about MQ windows atm :)
[04:10] <[CC] Punkrock> M$
[04:10] <raingrove> oh
[04:10] <[Pixels] > ewww
[04:10] <[CC] Punkrock> i dont have linux yet :p
[04:10] <omar> who
[04:10] <[Pixels] > ms windows..
[04:10] <[CC] Punkrock> i NEEd ms windows
[04:11] <[Pixels] > omar type in ls -a in the directory
[04:11] <raingrove> everyone needs it
[04:11] <[CC] Punkrock> cuz some games dont work in linux
[04:11] <raingrove> for games at least
[04:11] <[Pixels] > see what files come up
[04:11] <raingrove> haha
[04:11] <[CC] Punkrock> yup
[04:11] <[CC] Punkrock> i'm a gaming freak
[04:11] <[Pixels] > there should be a make file
[04:11] <[CC] Punkrock> and i need it for my mom and lil sis
[04:11] <omar> Pixels i am finsish to do ls -a ehat then ?
[04:11] <[Pixels] > if ./configure worked correctly
[04:11] <[Pixels] > no
[04:11] <[CC] Punkrock> cuz they haven't even got a clue what linux is
[04:11] <omar> AMm ther is a make file
[04:11] <[CC] Punkrock> download started
[04:11] <[CC] Punkrock> will be ready in about 60-70 minutes
[04:11] <[Pixels] > is it just labeled make ?
[04:11] <[Pixels] > or make.sh
[04:12] <_johan> Pixels: if I remove gcc 4.0, then build essential, g++ and libstdc++ will get removed. should I still do it?
[04:12] <[Pixels] > yeah, cause you can readd them afterwards
[04:12] <[Pixels] > its just a temporary removal :)
[04:12] <omar> no one file name Makefile.in and Makefile.cvs and Makefile.am
[04:13] <_johan> Pixels: ok
[04:13] <[Pixels] > try ./make
[04:13] <[Pixels] > omar
[04:13] <[Pixels] > _johan: let me warn you, the cvscedega is buggy
[04:13] <[Pixels] > your better off finding someone with a real copy
[04:13] <[CC] Punkrock> btw: how stable is 5.10?
[04:14] <omar> bash: ./make: No such file or directory
[04:14] <omar> I can do ./INSTALL
[04:14] <[Pixels] > try that then omar
[04:14] <omar> k
[04:14] <[Pixels] > omar are you new to linux ?
[04:14] <_johan> Pixels: I'll try...ehm..finding the real version then
[04:14] <omar> omar@localhost:~/kbear-3.0alpha1b$ ./INSTALL
[04:14] <omar> ./INSTALL: line 1: Basic: command not found
[04:14] <omar> ./INSTALL: line 2: [04:14] <omar> ./INSTALL: line 4: These: command not found
[04:14] <omar> ./INSTALL: command substitution: line 9: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
[04:14] <[Pixels] > omar what package are you trying to compile ?
[04:15] <omar> ./INSTALL: command substitution: line 12: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[04:15] <omar> ./INSTALL: line 9: The: command not found
[04:15] <omar> ./INSTALL: command substitution: line 10: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
[04:15] <[Pixels] > stop pasting please
[04:15] <[Pixels] > we get the idea :)
[04:15] <omar> ./INSTALL: command substitution: line 12: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[04:15] <omar> ./INSTALL: line 10: definitions.: command not found
[04:15] <omar> ./INSTALL: line 113: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[04:15] <omar> ./INSTALL: line 113: `is something like `gnu-as' or `x' (for the X Window System).  The'
[04:15] <omar> :S
[04:15] <[Pixels] > a simple, it didnt work would have sufficed :)
[04:15] <apokryphos> omar: it's common courtesey to not flood the channel; please don't do it :)
[04:15] <[Pixels] > you can join #flood
[04:16] <[Pixels] > to paste long error messages :)
[04:16] <omar> Sorry
[04:16] <apokryphos> !pastebin
[04:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:16] <[Pixels] > or use a service like pate bin
[04:16] <[Pixels] > lol
[04:16] <omar> I copy one line and all cames
[04:16] <[Pixels] > you beat me to it apokryphos
[04:16] <[Pixels] > omar: what package are you trying to compile ?
[04:17] <omar> I am compile kbear-3.0alpha1b
[04:17] <[Pixels] > okay let me see if i can find a .deb of that
[04:17] <[Pixels] > much easier to install that way.
[04:17] <omar> http://kbear.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=download&PHPSESSID=ee2d254dd8914a424ee66396a8e670f5
[04:17] <apokryphos> omar: what's wrong with Konqueror?
[04:18] <[Pixels] > apt-cache search kbear
[04:18] <omar> I cant use him on my FTP, i cant use brwser on my server
[04:18] <[Pixels] > oops
[04:18] <[Pixels] > wrong console
[04:18] <[Pixels] > sorry
[04:18] <apokryphos> omar: Konqueror has an FTP kioslave -- you can use that for filemanagement via ftp
[04:18] <apokryphos> try it
[04:18] <[Pixels] > kbear - graphical ftp client for KDE
[04:18] <omar> how
[04:18] <apokryphos> omar<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:18] <[Pixels] > omar type in apt-get kbear
[04:19] <navitux> hola a todos
[04:19] <[Pixels] > err sorry
[04:19] <raingrove> hey guys
[04:19] <[Pixels] > apt-get install kbear
[04:19] <raingrove> recommend me a native theme for kde please
[04:19] <[CC] Punkrock> .iso 10% downloaded
[04:19] <[Pixels] > im sure that kubuntu has it on a repository
[04:19] <Tm_T> raingrove: tiblit & knifty
[04:19] <[Pixels] > especially if debian does (which is what i am using at the moment_
[04:19] <navitux> quit
[04:19] <apokryphos> [Pixels] : kbear is rubbish :P
[04:19] <[Pixels] > i agree
[04:20] <raingrove> Tm_T, thanks i will try them out
[04:20] <[Pixels] > but if the man wants to use it, i say let him
[04:20] <[Pixels] > he will learn :P
[04:20] <_johan> got to go, bye everyone
[04:20] <[Pixels] > bye johan
[04:20] <_johan> and thanks pixels for your help
[04:20] <[Pixels] > good luck :)
[04:20] <EcksEightySix> wow... I uninstall gcj/gnu java whatever, because I needed Sun's JDK stuff and that bitch goes ahead and also remove OOo2. wtg!
[04:20] <[Pixels] > wow ive helped more people in here today, then i ever did in #debian
[04:21] <[Pixels] > EcksEightySix: OO2 relies on java
[04:21] <omar> apokryphos: Work with Konqueror
[04:21] <[Pixels] > its a dependency
[04:21] <hater2win> NSK:  what does 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket mean?
[04:21] <EcksEightySix> yea I know
[04:22] <EcksEightySix> but I don't want that gnu implentation
[04:22] <[Pixels] > hater2win: the socket couldnt be bound to listen
[04:22] <hater2win> what do i need to do?
[04:22] <EcksEightySix> can't Ooo2 simply use sun's jdk5
[04:22] <[Pixels] > EcksEightySix: when you install the sun java package
[04:22] <[Pixels] > you can safely install OO2 again
[04:22] <EcksEightySix> Oh
[04:22] <[Pixels] > :)
[04:22] <EcksEightySix> sweet
[04:22] <hater2win> [Pixels] : What do i need to do?
[04:22] <EcksEightySix> :)
[04:22] <[Pixels] > hater2win: are you behind a firewall ?
[04:23] <[Pixels] > or using something like guarddog ?
[04:23] <[Pixels] > if so you need to open the port its trying to bind too
[04:23] <hater2win> yes, but ive forwarded the correct ports
[04:23] <[Pixels] > you've checked in iptables ?
[04:23] <raingrove> does anyone play freeciv
[04:23] <[Pixels] > raingrove: not anymore, but I used too.
[04:23] <hater2win> [Pixels] : IPTables?????
[04:24] <raingrove> heh why not anymore?
[04:24] <raingrove> can u recommend some nice games for linux
[04:24] <[Pixels] > raingrove: grew out of it.
[04:24] <[Pixels] > raingrove: what types ?
[04:24] <raingrove> anything.
[04:25] <[Pixels] > one sec
[04:25] <robin_2> raingrove: ET
[04:25] <[Pixels] > http://www.linuxgames.com/
[04:25] <robin_2> raingrove: wolfenstein enemy territory.
[04:25] <NightWalker> Hmm where can i get valknut or somthink dc++ client on kubuntu
[04:25] <[Pixels] > http://www.happypenguin.org/
[04:26] <navitux> hi!
[04:26] <raingrove> cool
[04:26] <NightWalker> Hello
[04:26] <hater2win> [Pixels] : iptables??
[04:26] <raingrove> is enemy territory in ubuntu repository?
[04:27] <robin_2> raingrove: no, you have to download it.
[04:27] <[Pixels] > www.freshmeat.net
[04:27] <raingrove> ok
[04:27] <[Pixels] > hater2win: programs like guarddog are GUI's for iptables
[04:27] <[Pixels] > iptables is what allows traffic in/out
[04:27] <robin_2> raingrove: you can download it here http://enemy-territory.4players.de:1041/modules.php?name=files
[04:28] <robin_2> raingrove: it requires opengl.
[04:28] <libben> urbanterror 4 teh win
[04:28] <libben> quake3 though
[04:28] <hater2win> so what do i need to be making sure of on these iptables?
[04:28] <[Pixels] > world of warcraft for teh winZ0r
[04:28] <[Pixels] > hater2win: www.google.com :)
[04:29] <raingrove> robin_2, have u tried wine?
[04:29] <hater2win> ty
[04:29] <[Pixels] > np
[04:29] <[Pixels] > wine = the devil
[04:29] <robin_2> raingrove: you don't need wine for it, there is a native linux version.
[04:29] <[Pixels] > WineX for applications, Cedega for games
[04:29] <[Pixels] > Windows for target practice!
[04:29] <raingrove> robin_2,  i know that. just asking
[04:30] <robin_2> raingrove: k
[04:30] <[Pixels] > im so tired, i should've went to bed
[04:30] <[Pixels] > instead of reinstalling debian
[04:30] <raingrove> does Adobe Photoshop CS2 and iTunes work fine with wine?
[04:30] <Eliteforce> ^^
[04:30] <[Pixels] > takes so long installing to unstable
[04:30] <[Pixels] > cause i do net installs.
[04:30] <[Pixels] > takes about 2 hours total :(
[04:31] <Eliteforce> inet speed?
[04:31] <[Pixels] > i average about 110 KB/sec when downloading from debian rep's
[04:31] <libben> ok, installed adept ... but why does it not appear in the menu?
[04:31] <robin_2> raingrove: I couldn't get CS2 get to work, photoshop 7 might work., Itunes don't think so.
[04:32] <[Pixels] > brb
[04:32] <robin_2> raingrove: but there amarok supports ipods, as the ipod kio slave (although the ubuntu version I can't get to work :/)
[04:32] <NightWalker> Pixels now i am trying to install Valknut and i can't same error
[04:32] <Eliteforce> [Pixels] : either this is you internet connections max speed or you should switch to another mirror
[04:32] <[Pixels] > Eliteforce: max for me pretty much
[04:32] <[Pixels] > lol
[04:33] <[Pixels] > shared cable with 60+ people
[04:33] <[Pixels] > =/
[04:33] <Eliteforce> [Pixels] : :)
[04:33] <_johan> I have now installed cedega. I get the error21. the solution should be turning off prelinking, in /etc/sysconfig/prelinking, but the folder sysconfig doesn't exist :/
[04:34] <[Pixels] > error 21 is a common occurance, even though I havent had it happen
[04:34] <apokryphos> man, Kompile is seriously cool
[04:34] <[Pixels] > thats the only solution that I know of.
[04:34] <apokryphos> nice UI
[04:34] <_johan> Pixels: but do you have the folder sysconfig in /etc?
[04:34] <[Pixels] > yes :) yes it is.
[04:34] <[Pixels] > _johan: i dont have it installed right now
[04:34] <[Pixels] > im on a fresh install.
[04:35] <[Pixels] > you could www.google.com it
[04:36] <strike4ce> Why does firefox look so small in kubuntu?
[04:36] <satafterh> anyone know what to use to play an mkv file?
[04:36] <_johan> mplayer should do
[04:36] <robin_2> strike4ce: small ? what do you mean
[04:37] <satafterh> #_johan tried it, not worki
[04:37] <strike4ce> the url bar is really small
[04:37] <robin_2> strike4ce: not here.
[04:37] <strike4ce> changing fonts does'nt work
[04:38] <strike4ce> robin_2: not here?
[04:38] <robin_2> strike4ce: it is using the same fonts, as my kde apps. You can change that in kcontrol.
[04:38] <robin_2> strike4ce: I have kubuntu, and firefox is looking normal.
[04:39] <strike4ce> Have you seen firefox on windows?
[04:39] <strike4ce> it doesnt look normal on linux
[04:39] <robin_2> strike4ce: :) yes, i'm using it on daily basis, it is the same size.
[04:40] <strike4ce> robin_2: there is a bunch of people complaining about it
[04:40] <libben> Guidance Configuration Tools: i dont have this
[04:40] <libben> what have i missed to install
[04:40] <libben> how do i know if my system is updated.
[04:42] <robin_2> strike4ce: lucky me. Have you selected " Use my KDE fonts in GTK applications"  ? in the Appearance->GTK styels and fonts section ?
[04:42] <libben> do i miss something in my sources.list http://libben.pastebin.com/394424
[04:42] <strike4ce> yes
[04:43] <robin_2> strike4ce: hmm, I'm using bitstream vera sans 10, and for fixed width: dejavi sans mono 10.
[04:47] <mister_roboto> strike4ce: there was some package related to gtk that I had to download to get gtk apps to use kde fonts properly but I can't remember what it was
[04:48] <mister_roboto> strike4ce: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[04:48] <jakedahn> hi everyone, can someone tell me how i can reset the resolution of my moniter in kubuntu? It only lets me go up to 1024x768 and i need 1280x1024
[04:48] <mister_roboto> strike4ce: did you get that?
[04:48] <strike4ce> yes in adept?
[04:49] <mister_roboto> strike4ce: did you get the package gtk2-engines-gtk-qt? that's how I fixed my firefox fonts (and all gtk apps under qt)
[04:50] <strike4ce> its installed mister_roboto
[04:50] <Kalock> Hello all
[04:50] <robin_2> jakedahn: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:51] <jakedahn> okie thx
[04:51] <Kalock> I was looking at the Ubuntu distro... I assume just Ubunto downlowd is without KDE.. KUbunto is with and EDUbutno is for kids
[04:51] <navitux> hi
[04:52] <navitux> i'm having some problems with the locales and openoffice
[04:52] <Kalock> Would that be a fair assumption?
[04:52] <apokryphos> Kalock: edubuntu isn't necessarily just for kids, at all
[04:52] <apokryphos> check their site
[04:52] <strike4ce> mister_roboto:  I enabled qt
[04:52] <mister_roboto> strike4ce: I remember there was a bug in the system settings/fonts dialog, the first time you applied "Use my KDE style in GTK apps" it didn't really get set. You had to do it a second time. Don't know if you hit that, or if it was fixed, or what. It's been a long time since I set that up
[04:53] <robin_2> Kalock: ubuntu is with gnome (but you can always install kde afterwards), kubuntu is without gnome, but with kde, and edubuntu don't know
[04:53] <apokryphos> edu = education
[04:53] <robin_2> Kalock: for school I think.
[04:53] <robin_2> *schools.
[04:53] <Kalock> nod
[04:53] <apokryphos> primarily, yes
[04:54] <tenco> so breezy installed katapult, but how can i start this?
[04:54] <robin_2> tenco: alt+space
[04:54] <Kalock> tnk
[04:54] <apokryphos> !katapult
[04:54] <ubotu> I heard katapult is an application for KDE designed to provide faster access to applications, bookmarks and other items. Once you've installed it, alt+f2 ->katapult, then hit Alt+Space. When splash screen appears, type the command you want.
[04:55] <tenco> ah, thanks! :)
[04:55] <mister_roboto> !grub
[04:55] <ubotu> methinks grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:56] <mister_roboto> !tell me about grub
[04:56] <mister_roboto> this bot access to the docs was the best thing ever added to these channels  :)
[04:57] <Kalock> And so begins the download
[04:59] <arafat> does anybody know the package name for the latex style files (e.g.: hyperref.sty, epic.sty)?
[04:59] <robin_2> arafat use dpkg -S or apt-file search
[04:59] <robin_2> !apt-file
[04:59] <ubotu> No idea, robin_2
[04:59] <robin_2> hmm
[04:59] <robin_2> :)
[04:59] <robin_2> anyway you can download it.
[05:00] <arafat> do you know where?
[05:00] <robin_2> arafat yes, but if you install apt-file and do a search by yourself You will find out.
[05:00] <mister_roboto> it's apt-cache search
[05:00] <robin_2> mister_roboto: no it isn't
[05:00] <robin_2> mister_roboto: that is for packages
[05:01] <apokryphos> arafat: that would be a tetex-extra I presume
[05:01] <luser> Hi guys, I just installed Kubuntu, and I can't seem to be able to connect to my fileserver. Is there any way I can see whether SMB is working. or what could be wrong?
[05:01] <robin_2> not files.
[05:01] <mister_roboto> ahhh, sorry ok
[05:01] <apokryphos> arafat: packages.ubuntu.com or apt-file can show you where a file comes from
[05:01] <robin_2> apt-file search hyperref.sty
[05:01] <robin_2> tetex-extra: usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hyperref.sty
[05:01] <arafat> ahh! thank you all! that is the package!
[05:02] <luser> It manages to find my Windows computers (and their shares), but unfortunately it can't find the samba server on my Debian machine
[05:14] <xuniL_> then i put a "New Item" in "KDE Menu Editor" and save it it dont show up in the meny and if i enter the "KDE Menu Editor" again its gone...
[05:14] <xuniL_> any clue?
[05:14] <jakedahn> How do i add websites to download from with the apt-get system???
[05:14] <mister_roboto> jakedahn: the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[05:15] <xuniL_> any one?
[05:15] <jakedahn> mister_roboto: so do i just put in a website under the rest of them?
[05:15] <mister_roboto> jakedahn: yse
[05:15] <jakedahn> okie, ill give it a shot
[05:17] <xuniL_> what do i need to type in console to gett total root control... so i can change every thing without console
[05:19] <mister_roboto> !tell me about msttcorefonts
[05:21] <arafat> i just deleted my mp3-directory (rm -rf ) ...:-( is there a way to undo this operation? i'm using ext3
[05:21] <DarthFrog> arafat: Restore from backup.
[05:21] <arafat> hmm. i have no backup of this directory...
[05:22] <DarthFrog> arafat: Then you're hosed.
[05:22] <mister_roboto> !tell me about fonts
[05:24] <jakedahn> how do i check all of the packages that are available by the sources i have in my apt-get sources file??
[05:25] <DarthFrog> jakedahn: Synaptic will tell you what's available.
[05:25] <jakedahn> where can i get that, or is it already on the machine by default?
[05:26] <DarthFrog> jakedahn: It should be installed.   It's under the System Menu as Synaptic Package Manager.
[05:26] <DarthFrog> Synaptic rocks!
[05:27] <DarthFrog> So does the new Adept package manger for KDE. :-)
[05:27] <jakedahn> ok, wait where is it now?
[05:27] <DarthFrog> IT's shy.  It
[05:27] <mister_roboto> jakedahn: it's a gnome program      apt-get install synaptic
[05:27] <DarthFrog> 's probably hiding. :-)
[05:27] <mister_roboto> jakedahn: it's not there by default with kubuntu/kde
[05:27] <jakedahn> oh, well im on kubuntu i get something like adept for a package manager
[05:27] <DarthFrog> jakedahn: Use Adept then.
[05:28] <mister_roboto> jakedahn: it runs fine on kubuntu if you want to use synaptic :)
[05:28] <jakedahn> lol
[05:28] <jakedahn> you really like it dont you
[05:28] <mister_roboto> haha
[05:28] <mister_roboto> don't really care but i installed it and it's good
[05:28] <jakedahn> can someone give me what the have in their /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:29] <mister_roboto> jakedahn: i just use the cmd line most of the time
[05:29] <jakedahn> when i use apt-get it doesnt find any packages
[05:29] <jakedahn> ah
[05:29] <NightWalker> Why can i not do make
[05:29] <DarthFrog> NightWalker: "apt-get install build-essential"
[05:29] <soulslayer8703> Hello
[05:29] <soulslayer8703> Somebody Knows how to configure wifi in kubuntu????
[05:30] <jrjx> JakeD: I have a apt/sources.list, but it's for the 2005.04 distribution, hoary.  Is that what you want, or the new one?
[05:30] <NightWalker> i am root and i am finish to do ./congigure and then i fo make then this came make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop
[05:30] <jakedahn> im on 5.10 the new one, and when i use apt-get the default list doesnt find any packages
[05:31] <mister_roboto> jakedahn: http://pastebin.com/394471
[05:31] <jakedahn> how do i add the regular debian link?
[05:31] <_martin> Q: how to connect to another kubuntu machine? (filesharing)
[05:31] <jrjx> Huh.  Okay.
[05:31] <DarthFrog> NightWalker: Then make is installed.  You just don't have the necessary Makefile, is all.
[05:31] <NightWalker> how
[05:32] <xuniL_> can you log on as root?
[05:32] <mister_roboto> !root
[05:32] <ubotu> rumour has it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:32] <mister_roboto> !nfs
[05:32] <ubotu> well, nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:33] <xuniL_> but how do i change root stuff then?
[05:33] <xuniL_> with sudo?
[05:33] <JabberWokky> Yes.
[05:33] <DarthFrog> xuniL_: Yes
[05:33] <mister_roboto> _martin: if it's 2 unix machines, you can use nfs. if you just want to copy files, you can use ftp or scp.
[05:33] <_martin> ubotu: well yes i think I have set up the sharing part right, but how to access it?
[05:33] <ubotu> _martin: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[05:33] <jrjx> Roboto: Should you update that first line in sources.list to reflect the correct CD?
[05:34] <DarthFrog> Or rsync, for copy.
[05:34] <DarthFrog> rsync is truly excellent.
[05:34] <mister_roboto> DarthFrog: that's good for mirroring stuff but it's not really the thing for merely doing file sharing
[05:35] <DarthFrog> mister_roboto: If you set up a rsync server, it is.
[05:35] <JabberWokky> I probably have the search terms wrong... anybody know a way to set the resolution of virtual consoles such that they survive updates (i.e., without vidmode or a compile option).  I like the ubuntu kernels other than the default resolution, and since fixing the resolution requires a reboot, it's kind of a pain.  Alternate methods, anybody?
[05:35] <NightWalker> What comad i log my in like root are the command: su or what?
[05:35] <DarthFrog> but for mounting network shares, NFS is just the ticket.
[05:36] <mister_roboto> DarthFrog:  nfs is superior for that purpose if you don't mind the network chattiness. You don't need to make a local copy like you do with rsync. and if you're not actually synchronizing anything, rsync doesn't add value
[05:36] <DarthFrog> NightWalker: "su -" won't work unless you set a root password.  That will enable the root account.
[05:36] <nikkia> mister_roboto: i'd be more worried about the inherent security problems with enabling nfs on a machine
[05:36] <robin_2> sudo su works
[05:36] <mister_roboto> nikkia: yes, but on an internal network    <shrug>
[05:36] <NightWalker> I do su omar and pass
[05:37] <JabberWokky> NightWalker: You can use sudo -s
[05:37] <DarthFrog> unison?  Hmm, have to check it out.
[05:37] <nikkia> mister_roboto: even so, enabling rpc behind a firewall is still a risk, IMO
[05:37] <jrjx> For sudo, I was doing "sudo bash" before, but now I do "sudo -s" to get basically the same thing.
[05:37] <nikkia> yeah, unison is great, i use it for keeping work&home source trees synced
[05:37] <NightWalker> Okey i am in like root
[05:38] <JabberWokky> nikkia: Ditto here... plus I do three way syncs with it, nice.
[05:38] <mister_roboto> nikkia: i prefer to just vpn to the cvs repo at work for that ;)
[05:38] <strike4ce> Anyone know why Kate would open up when I download a program to desktop on the Konqueror web browser
[05:38] <DarthFrog> NightWalker: Then sit on your hands before you issue any root commands.   A good habit to get into.  Saves asking questions like "How do I recover from "rm -rf /". :-)
[05:38] <nikkia> mister_roboto: sadly, i've tried and tried, but cannot get my work to institute a cvs respos.
[05:39] <nikkia> mister_roboto: and my boss is well aware of the benefits, just no time or money to spend on getting a server, setting it up, and training the other employees to use it
[05:40] <mister_roboto> nikkia: yes, i can understand that. however, the cost of NOT using at least some kind of source control is far higher  :)    you're using SOMETHING, i  hope
[05:40] <NightWalker> Yes
[05:40] <xxenon> how do I get MP3 playback in Xine ? (5.10)
[05:40] <JabberWokky> Anybody know a way to change the text mode resolution of virtual consoles (other than vidmode, which gets blown away when apt fetches a new kernel)?
[05:40] <NightWalker> but i am finish to try mutsh comand to day and nothing WORK
[05:40] <libben> do i miss something in my sources.list http://libben.pastebin.com/394424
[05:40] <nikkia> mister_roboto: sadly, no, not really, however, our industry is a bit different, we're generally '1 programmer to a team'
[05:41] <libben> cause i dont have some things that are supposed to be in breezy
[05:41] <nikkia> mister_roboto: there are definite gains we could get from implementing version control, but they're not as big gains as you'd see in a large team environment
[05:42] <mister_roboto> nikkia: once you get into the habit though, you'll find you want to use it even on your personal projects. it frees you so much from worrying about doing experiments and EASILY backing up to previous points, for example. it really adds no overhead once you get used to it. saves you time and stress
[05:42] <NightWalker> configure: error: libxml2 must be installed.
[05:42] <NightWalker> :S
[05:42] <JabberWokky> At the very least you can have a nightly commit to your source trees and be able to jump back.  I use svn that way.
[05:42] <JabberWokky> Just on private projects.
[05:43] <xuniL_> okey i have a irritating problem i cant change my kde menu...  and i dont have a clue why!
[05:43] <mister_roboto> nikkia: seriously, if you're a developer, you should try installing subversion at least (improved cvs)     or cvs.   it's not hard to use and there are good online docs
[05:43] <libben> my menu wont update itselfs with newly installed programs
[05:43] <libben> such as adept
[05:43] <nikkia> mister_roboto: atm, i use unison for that :), i never sync when i'm mid-way thru experimental changes to my code... its not perfect, but it suffices, i do have a local cvs server on my work PC, but there are numerous reasons why i don't use it, mostly related to issues with IDE integration aspects of cvs
[05:43] <mister_roboto> nikkia: i mean at home... play with it
[05:43] <libben> and i also dont have the new apps that are supposed to be in final
[05:43] <xuniL_> save here libben and i cant even add any thing....
[05:43] <mister_roboto> nikkia: what ide?
[05:43] <nikkia> mister_roboto: you're telling the wrong person, really :)
[05:44] <xuniL_> same
[05:44] <mister_roboto> nikkia:   ok :)
[05:44] <nikkia> mister_roboto: i've been using source code control systems since 1989
[05:44] <libben> i miss guidance tools
[05:44] <strike4ce> What is the command for installing from desktop  cd Desktop then what else?
[05:44] <NightWalker> What is this : configure: error: libxml2 must be installed.
[05:44] <xuniL_> ./configure
[05:44] <xuniL_> make
[05:44] <xuniL_> make install
[05:44] <orangey> hey all!
[05:44] <mister_roboto> nikkia: gotcha. i thought you might not have been, in which case it would be worth your while to try it.  no sense preaching to the choir!
[05:44] <strike4ce> is it dpkg -i program(tab)??
[05:45] <nikkia> mister_roboto: as to what IDE, just about all of them have some issues when it comes to non-guarenteed respository availability, even emacs has situations where it'll sit and make you wait while it tries to contact the server, without you even asking it to check
[05:45] <orangey> since upgrading kubuntu, I haven't been able to get my /etc/fstab to update in response to new media..
[05:45] <JabberWokky> nikkia: subversion and unison work great.  If you want to transfer the repository, use it like normal.  If you want a clean source tree, add "ignore = Name .svn" to your unison .prf file.
[05:45] <strike4ce> mister_roboto: can you help me?
[05:45] <orangey> any reason for that ?
[05:45] <NightWalker> xuniL Make dont work
[05:45] <mister_roboto> strike4ce: i don't know. what's your question?
[05:46] <strike4ce> from cd desktop what is the dpkg command?
[05:46] <xuniL_> whats the error?
[05:46] <xuniL_> is it installed?
[05:46] <mister_roboto> nikkia: if there are ide  problems, i just use the cmd line tools for checkout/commit and use the ide only as editor
[05:46] <xuniL_> i got to install it...
[05:46] <nikkia> mister_roboto: thats the problem, the editors will still occasionally try to contact the server to see if there are updates, its annoying
[05:46] <mister_roboto> strike4ce: ummm "dpkg"?
[05:47] <strike4ce> mister_roboto: dpkg -i?
[05:47] <NightWalker> How can i install it ?
[05:47] <mister_roboto> nikkia: they won't try if they don't know about the repo!   :)     just treat the files as a bunch of local files on disk
[05:47] <xuniL_> sudo apt-get install make
[05:47] <xuniL_> in console
[05:47] <nikkia> mister_roboto: yeah, i know, i do occasionally cp -a then find . -name CVS -exec rm -R {} \;   :)
[05:48] <strike4ce> xuniL_:  are you talking to me?
[05:48] <NightWalker> when i do ./configure than this came configure: error: libxml2 must be installed
[05:48] <orangey> are people here able to see media they just inserted in kde?
[05:48] <nikkia> mister_roboto: thinking about it, unison'ing two directories with 'CVS' ignored would perhaps make that easier
[05:48] <mister_roboto> nikkia: huh?  then you won't be able to check in stuff. the ide doenn't magically know about cvs just because there are CVS subdirs there.
[05:48] <xuniL_> NightWalker then install that..
[05:48] <NightWalker> how
[05:49] <nikkia> mister_roboto: many editors DO magically know because of the existance of 'CVS'
[05:49] <mister_roboto> nikkia: "cvs export"
[05:49] <EnorMOZ> Hello I just installed latest kubuntu... I am having problems downloading kftpgrabber says there was a problem downloading some packages or commit would break packages... anyone else have this ??
[05:49] <nikkia> mister_roboto: try emacs sometime, you'll see it picks up on the existance of CVS and adds cvs tracking
[05:49] <EnorMOZ> btw im doing this via adept
[05:50] <mister_roboto> nikkia: ok... not an emacs user here (vi - please no flamewar :)
[05:50] <huso> huhu
[05:50] <mister_roboto> nikkia: you can't tell emacs to ignore the server?  that seems quite a pita
[05:51] <NightWalker> xuniL how can i install it?
[05:51] <xuniL_> open console and write sudo adept
[05:51] <nikkia> mister_roboto: you probably can, but its an additional step :/
[05:51] <xuniL_> there you can search for it...
[05:51] <xuniL_> and install it..
[05:52] <nikkia> mister_roboto: and if it does the cvs check at file open, its still going to mean sitting and waiting a second or two for it to fail if the VPN is down for any reason
[05:52] <NightWalker> Sry i am new how can i search
[05:52] <mister_roboto> nikkia: yes, i can see how that would suck :)     in your situation, it seems like you should just disable that feature by default and use cvs manually
[05:52] <Titi> NightWalker: type apt-get install libxml2-dev
[05:52] <xuniL_> under the Quick Filter
[05:53] <mister_roboto> nikkia: but unison would work fine too :)
[05:54] <woddf2> Haldo
[05:54] <woddf2> How do I tell Kopete to use a different wallet?
[05:54] <NightWalker> Titi  E: Couldn't find package libxml2-dev
[05:55] <Titi> hum... ti should be there...
[05:55] <Titi> it
[05:57] <NightWalker> Can y maby paste a link where i can download libxml
[05:57] <xuniL_> i found it
[05:57] <EnorMOZ> What is the best ftp client to use with kubuntu that supports PRET ??
[05:58] <NightWalker> where ?
[05:58] <woddf2> How do I tell Kopete to use a different wallet?
[05:59] <NightWalker> Titi Can you maby paste a link where i can download libxml
[05:59] <woddf2> It just wants to create a new one.
[05:59] <Titi> well the command i gave you should work, really...
[06:01] <EnorMOZ> has anyone been able to install kftpgrabber on latest kubuntu ??
[06:01] <Titi> did you modify the source.list file to download packages from the net?
[06:03] <woddf2> How do I tell Kopete to use a different wallet? It just wants to create a new one.
[06:03] <cave> i still dont get it.. how do I run Kate as root?
[06:03] <EnorMOZ> su
[06:03] <EnorMOZ> then type the password for root
[06:03] <DarkSeid7> hello folks
[06:04] <woddf2> I can't run Kate as root either.
[06:04] <DarkSeid7> so any news on when USB functionality will be up and running in Kubuntu 5.10?
[06:04] <cave> EnorMOZ: i get nothing from that
[06:05] <NightWalker> How can i install RPM ?
[06:05] <EnorMOZ> USB works here
[06:05] <EnorMOZ> got mouse and keyboard to usb
[06:05] <woddf2> I have a working USB mouse.
[06:05] <EnorMOZ> yes
[06:06] <EnorMOZ> logitech mx700
[06:06] <cave> im just trying to mount my hard drives here... someone told me to edit the /etc/fstab file
[06:06] <DarkSeid7> 2 machines and both have non functioning USB
[06:06] <woddf2> How do I tell Kopete to use a different wallet? It just wants to create a new one.
[06:06] <cave> but i cant save any changes if i'm not root
[06:06] <orangey> are people here able to see media they just inserted in kde?
[06:06] <DarkSeid7> both AFTER I dist-upgrade to 5.10
[06:06] <orangey> doh!
[06:06] <orangey> What I mean to ask is: Anybody here using pmount with breezy???
[06:07] <EnorMOZ> I just installed kubuntu
[06:07] <EnorMOZ> didnt do upgrade
[06:07] <cave> ooh pmount sounds interesting!
[06:07] <orangey> cave, it is : )
[06:08] <cave> i never heard about it, just read it's description on Adept
[06:08] <orangey> cave, as I understand, it's automatically being used..
[06:08] <orangey> cave, do you use usb drives?
[06:08] <woddf2> Will someone please answer my question?
[06:08] <cave> oh
[06:08] <orangey> cave, if so, just plug it in.. if it appears, then pmount is running fine..
[06:08] <DarkSeid7> yet on the same machines if I change to the GDM and boot into Gnome USB works like a charm
[06:08] <cave> no, my drives are internal
[06:08] <orangey> or i guess it could be fstab-sync that's running too..
[06:09] <NightWalker> How can i install rpm packets
[06:10] <soulslayer9090> hi
[06:10] <soulslayer9090> i need some help here
[06:10] <soulslayer9090> please
[06:10] <soulslayer9090> please
[06:10] <orangey> soulslayer9090, just ask your question
[06:10] <cave> I installed Kubuntu yesterday
[06:10] <NightWalker> How can i install rpm compiler
[06:11] <NightWalker> ????
[06:11] <cave> first priority is to mount my other partitions to access my files...
[06:12] <Chousuke> NightWalker: rpm compiler?
[06:12] <NightWalker> where can i get libxml 2.0.0
[06:12] <Chousuke> I think it's in universe
[06:12] <Chousuke> it should be
[06:12] <Chousuke> but wtf do you mean with rpm compiler?
[06:13] <DarkSeid7> sudo apt-get install libxml
[06:13] <orangey> Chousuke, any idea whether breezy uses fstab-sync or pmount?
[06:13] <Chousuke> orangey: I think it uses pmount. I'm not sure though.
[06:13] <NightWalker> E: Couldn't find package libxml
[06:13] <NightWalker> DarkSeid7
[06:13] <DarkSeid7> so any clues as to why USB works when I use Gnome but not K on the SAME machine?
[06:13] <DarkSeid7> hrmph...
[06:13] <woddf2> Will someone please answer my question?
[06:13] <DarkSeid7> ok well then
[06:14] <Chousuke> DarkSeid7: KDE has HAL trouble.
[06:14] <Chousuke> that might explain it :P
[06:14] <orangey> Chousuke, would you mind double-checking? it looks like my /etc/fstab isn't updating when I put in a device..
[06:14] <DarkSeid7> that explains my DCOP explosions
[06:14] <DarkSeid7> DOH!
[06:14] <soulslayer8787> excuse me im back
[06:14] <Chousuke> orangey: I think it isn't supposed to update :/
[06:14] <soulslayer8787> this wifi connection is extremely unnestable
[06:15] <Chousuke> orangey: but I'm not even running Ubuntu now. :/
[06:15] <DarkSeid7> Nightwalker the other thing you could try is to add the debian repositories to your sources.list file
[06:15] <DarkSeid7> and then do an apt-get update
[06:15] <soulslayer8787> can you help me with my connection problem
[06:15] <DarkSeid7> if all else fails... compile it
[06:15] <orangey> Chousuke, if it's not supposed to update, that would be quite the step back..
[06:15] <orangey> Chousuke, it *did* update in hoary
[06:15] <soulslayer8787> someone
[06:16] <Chousuke> orangey: hmm.
[06:16] <NightWalker> I am new in linux and 2 i am form icelandic dont under stand :S
[06:16] <woddf2> Will someone please answer my question?
[06:16] <Chousuke> DarkSeid7: Debian repos?
[06:16] <Chousuke> DarkSeid7: That will break things.
[06:16] <Chousuke> bad.
[06:16] <DarkSeid7> no it wont
[06:16] <Chousuke> yes it will.
[06:16] <DarkSeid7> hell I have hoary running on my laptop with a mix of deb and ubuntu repositories
[06:17] <DarkSeid7> works like a charm
[06:17] <soulslayer8787> ok
[06:17] <Chousuke> And you don't even need Debian repos. There's universe.
[06:17] <DarkSeid7> apt is a wonderful thing
[06:17] <Chousuke> Why the hell do you need Debian repos anyway?
[06:17] <Chousuke> DarkSeid7: Anyway, I suppose you're using apt-preferences
[06:17] <Chousuke> without pinning it's likely they'll break.
[06:17] <NightWalker> :(
[06:18] <DarkSeid7> because there are a few things that dont exist in the ubuntu repos
[06:18] <woddf2> No one is answering my question.
[06:18] <Firetech> this ivman thingie, shouldn't it be started automatically? (or is it?)
[06:18] <DarkSeid7> whats the question wodf sorry
[06:19] <woddf2> How do I get Kopete to use a different wallet?
[06:19] <Chousuke> DarkSeid7: I still wouldn't mix Debian repos without any pinning.
[06:19] <DarkSeid7> no clue.. I use GAIM
[06:19] <Ironfrost> I have a fairly simple question about .bashrc
[06:19] <Ironfrost> does it only affect bash or does it affect sh as well?
[06:19] <libben> how do i know if i have the updated breezy?
[06:20] <Ironfrost> and if not, what is the equivalent file for sh
[06:20] <Chousuke> Ironfrost: sh is bash in Ubuntu, usually.
[06:20] <Mortis_kruul> Look at http://www.muzyka.oz.pl :)
[06:20] <Chousuke> DarkSeid7: Actually I'd probably just add the source repos and rebuild the packages for Ubuntu
[06:20] <killers> HOLA
[06:20] <killers> ALGUNO QUE HABLE ESPAOL?
[06:21] <DarkSeid7> well for source I usually just hit sourceforge and get the tarballs
[06:21] <libben> just english
[06:21] <Chousuke> killers: English.
[06:21] <Chousuke> !es
[06:21] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:21] <orangey> and what exactly is ivman, for that matter?
[06:21] <Mortis_kruul> For espanol look at http://www.muzyka.oz.pl
[06:21] <Chousuke> Someone kick Mortis_kruul
[06:21] <killers> THANKS
[06:21] <Mortis_kruul> Sorry
[06:21] <xuniL_> can someone help me with this compling error? http://pastebin.com/394486
[06:21] <libben> some1 tell me how i know if i have the upadted breezy
[06:22] <libben> cause i miss alot of programs
[06:22] <Chousuke> killers: avoid using caps. :/
[06:22] <Ironfrost> chousuke: to give more detail, I have some source-distributed program that wants to use sh when I tell it to compile (I'm not a developer, that's just how the program is distributed)
[06:22] <Chousuke> Ironfrost: what sh?
[06:22] <Chousuke> sh in Ubuntu is a symbolic link to bash
[06:23] <Ironfrost> ah, OK
[06:23] <Ironfrost> because when I type sh in the terminal it looks different, and it doesn't remember the things I have added to the path that session
[06:24] <xuniL_> any one who could help me with this problem
[06:24] <xuniL_> http://pastebin.com/394486
[06:24] <killers> ??
[06:24] <Armagguedes> hm does anyone here have kubuntu and is accessing the intarweb thru a 2200BG wifi card?
[06:24] <Chousuke> Ironfrost: hm.
[06:25] <Chousuke> what does it look like?
[06:25] <robin_2> xuniL_: Undefined references are linker errors, do you have set-up the lib path right?
[06:25] <robin_2> xuniL_: using configure..
[06:25] <xuniL_> i have runed the configure without any errors
[06:26] <robin_2> btw, you should not use for compiling :)
[06:26] <Ironfrost> chousuke: I'll come back in a few minutes once I've taken screenshots
[06:26] <robin_2> *not use root
[06:26] <DarkSeid7> ooh another thing.  Anyone notice that X is a hell of a lot SLOWER in Breezy?
[06:26] <DarkSeid7> both Kubuntu and Ubuntu?
[06:26] <xuniL_> robin_2 why not?
[06:27] <xuniL_> just logged as root al the time... right now..
[06:27] <DarkSeid7> I was getting 2800 fps running GLX gears
[06:27] <libben> how do i check if i have the new updated x?
[06:27] <robin_2> xuniL_: because if the script for example runs rm -rf /lib you are in serious problems..
[06:27] <libben> xorg i mean
[06:27] <DarkSeid7> now I am gettin around 1700
[06:27] <robin_2> xuniL_: only run as root, when it is needed.
[06:27] <xuniL_> robin_2 heh...
[06:27] <xuniL_> okey..
[06:28] <xuniL_> will do...
[06:28] <xuniL_> any clue on the problem?
[06:29] <Firetech> what is wrong with HAL?
[06:29] <robin_2> xuniL_: hmm, well most of the time this means, It can't find the library (therefor undefined references).. so probably the configure script doesn't check it.
[06:29] <Firetech> just curious
[06:29] <cave> yay i got it!
[06:29] <DarkSeid7> firetech apparently a few things
[06:29] <cave> stupid mistake > At the run dialog i was typing Kate instead of kate
[06:29] <xuniL_> robin_2 i have also got a other problem i cant change things in the kmenuedit...
[06:29] <cave> :P
[06:29] <robin_2> xuniL_: you could find out where those libraries are, and give it as parameter with the configure script.
[06:29] <xuniL_> i save as root but nothing happens
[06:29] <RichardC> is there anywhere i can find an updated sources list for kubuntu 5.10, like the one found at ubuntuguide.org?
[06:29] <DarkSeid7> I have ZERO usb support after doing a dist-upgrade
[06:30] <Firetech> My devices doesn't show up in KDE (desktop and konqueror @ media:/)
[06:30] <Firetech> might be the HAL stuff
[06:30] <DarkSeid7> USB devices?
[06:30] <Firetech> devices = USB devices
[06:30] <Chousuke> yeah
[06:30] <robin_2> xuniL_: why not, are the fields disabled ?
[06:30] <Chousuke> that's HAL
[06:30] <DarkSeid7> DING DING DING
[06:30] <DarkSeid7> give that man a cupie doll
[06:30] <DarkSeid7> thats the problem
[06:31] <robin_2> DarkSeid7: see topic.. they are working on it.
[06:31] <xuniL_> robin_2 fields disabled
[06:31] <xuniL_> ?
[06:31] <cave> robin, i edited the file like you said
[06:31] <cave> remember? to mount my hard drives?
[06:31] <Firetech> they mount OK if I run ivman in the background (manually with pmount should work too)
[06:31] <robin_2> Cave yes?
[06:31] <robin_2> cave and it didn't work ?
[06:31] <DarkSeid7> ooh I know they are
[06:32] <DarkSeid7> I tried an early fix yesterday
[06:32] <cave> Could not mount device. The reported error was: [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab mount: mount point /mnt/windows does not exist
[06:32] <cave> this is what igot when i clicked the desktop icon that popped up
[06:32] <DarkSeid7> hey for a free O/S it's not like I am complaining
[06:32] <DarkSeid7> if I have to use my camera I just drop into Gnome
[06:32] <kihaji> is anyone else having issues running adept, I input my password and it says it requires root.
[06:32] <robin_2> Cave oh, simple create /mnt/windows, or whereever you like it to be mounted.
[06:33] <robin_2> and about the newline, just add an extra enter, after the last line.
[06:33] <robin_2> *enter= newline.
[06:33] <cave> how do i do that ?
[06:33] <robin_2> cave sudo mkdir /mnt/windows
[06:33] <DarkSeid7> so besides K/ubuntu anyone else excited about Cedega 5.0 coming out?
[06:33] <DarkSeid7> I am giddy
[06:33] <Firetech> I get these strange lines filling my syslog now and then since my upgrade to breezy:
[06:33] <Firetech> Oct 15 18:28:34 barbaque kernel: atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[06:33] <Firetech> Oct 15 18:28:34 barbaque kernel: atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[06:33] <Firetech> I first get pressed and then released, and I can't figure out what it is, any ideas?
[06:33] <robin_2> DarkSeid7: what's special about it ?
[06:34] <DarkSeid7> from the rumor mill FULL DX9 support as well as Pixel Shader 1.4 and Vertex Shader support
[06:34] <Firetech> I should add that I don't press any keys to get it...
[06:34] <DarkSeid7> which means in English a whole lot more games will be working
[06:34] <robin_2> DarkSeid7: that is the free version ?
[06:34] <DarkSeid7> pay for version
[06:34] <DarkSeid7> it's worth the $5 a month
[06:34] <kihaji> is anyone else having issues running adept, I input my password and it says it requires root.
[06:34] <robin_2> DarkSeid7: hmm, don't like to pay.
[06:34] <cave> ok not i dont get an error anymore
[06:34] <cave> *now i don't
[06:34] <robin_2> DarkSeid7: I got windows for the games :)
[06:34] <DarkSeid7> for $5 a month it's worth every penny
[06:34] <Firetech> robin_2: you can download it illegally too ;)
[06:35] <cave> but the drive has no files in it.. so that can't be right
[06:35] <Chousuke> robin_2: pay up.
[06:35] <DarkSeid7> I trashed windows on EVERYTHING I own
[06:35] <DarkSeid7> and am happy as a clam
[06:35] <Chousuke> robin_2: not like 5 dollars a month will drive you bankrupt.
[06:35] <robin_2> DarkSeid7: well i got windows legal, so ..
[06:35] <DarkSeid7> just got done converting my iPaq to Familiar Linux w/ the Opie desktop
[06:35] <Chousuke> robin_2: so?
[06:35] <robin_2> Chousuke: no it will not, but i don't like subscriptions...
[06:36] <robin_2> Chousuke: so what
[06:36] <robin_2> cave: ehm, what does 'sudo mount' gives ?
[06:36] <roguejedix> Er, what repository contains w32 codecs for Breezy?
[06:37] <kihaji> is anyone else having issues running adept, I input my password and it says it requires root, yet I can sudo on the commandline.
[06:37] <cave>  /dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)    proc on /proc type proc (rw)    sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)   devpts on /dev/pts type devpts   (rw,gid=5,mode=620)  tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)  usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)  tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile type  tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)  tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)
[06:37] <robin_2> !sudo
[06:37] <ubotu> hmm... sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[06:37] <cave> removed line breaks to send
[06:38] <robin_2> !kdesu
[06:38] <ubotu> Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.
[06:38] <cave> how o i undo that hda5 thing i did? now its a phantom drive :S
[06:38] <robin_2> :D
[06:38] <robin_2> just edit /etc/fstab
[06:38] <robin_2> and replace it with the correct one..
[06:39] <satafterh> hello all, i have a question, i installed kde 3.5 and harddrive no longer showing in sytem folder, how do i get it back??
[06:39] <cave> this isnt working
[06:40] <cave> its just screwing things up further
[06:40] <cave> i have 2 new drive icons on my desktop
[06:40] <cave> one gives an error when i click, the other is empty
[06:41] <robin_2> cave open konsole, and type sudo mount
[06:41] <robin_2> cave what does it say (paste in pastebin)
[06:42] <cave> ok
[06:43] <cave> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/394516
[06:44] <robin_2> and what is in /etc/fstab
[06:44] <cave> from the original, i just added this line:   /dev/hdb       /mnt/windows    ntfs    ro,user,umask=000       0       0
[06:44] <robin_2> ok, and if you type in konsole mount -a
[06:45] <robin_2> than you should have files in /mnt/windows
[06:46] <cave> [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab    mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb, missing codepage or other error      In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try    dmesg | tail  or so
[06:46] <robin_2> cave ok, go to konsole and type sudo fdisk -l
[06:47] <robin_2> and paste the contents in pastebin.
[06:47] <cave> what will that do?
[06:47] <robin_2> list all the partitions
[06:48] <cave> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/394523
[06:48] <cave> everything looks fine...
[06:48] <robin_2> ah right
[06:48] <robin_2> i see
[06:48] <robin_2> in /etc/fstab you have /dev/hdb
[06:48] <robin_2> change it to /dev/hdb1
[06:49] <cave> ok.. and what about my fat32 partition in hda?
[06:50] <cave> thats the one all my files are in... hdb is just a windows install
[06:50] <robin_2> i'm not serious, but think you should replace 'ntfs' with 'fat' and you can remove ro. (because fat is writable in linux)
[06:50] <robin_2> eh
[06:50] <robin_2> i'nm not certain
[06:50] <Sgep> What's kdesktop_lock?
[06:51] <robin_2> cave /dev/hda1       /mnt/windows2    fat    user,umask=000       0       0
[06:51] <robin_2> and first sudo mkdir /mnt/windows2
[06:51] <Sgep> kdesktop_lock crashed
[06:51] <robin_2> Sgep: to lock your screen..
[06:52] <Sgep> Should I do `apt-get dist-upgrade'?
[06:52] <Firetech> does anyone here know any good database of scancodes for keyboards (Logitech Cordless Keyboard preferably)
[06:52] <cave> can the filename have spaces in it?
[06:52] <Ironfrost> Chousuke (or anyone else who is able to help): I edited .bashrc and it seemed to work, but the compiler script is still telling me that the file does not exist
[06:52] <Ironfrost> http://pastebin.com/394524
[06:52] <robin_2> cave which filename?
[06:52] <cave> like instead of windows and windows2, can i have windows (NTFS) and windows (FAT32)?
[06:52] <Ironfrost> it tells me:
[06:52] <Ironfrost> /bin/sh: pgf90: command not found
[06:53] <robin_2> cave, ehm well don't use it, you ahve to escape the spaces with a \.. use underscores instead of spaces.
[06:53] <cave> ok
[06:53] <Sgep> Can I restart without my computer blowing up?
[06:53] <cave> so windows_NTFS and winfows_FAT32 it is
[06:53] <Ironfrost> but pgf90 does exist
[06:53] <Ironfrost> when I just type it in from bash or sh
[06:54] <robin_2> winfows ;)
[06:54] <robin_2> cave ok, know edit /etc/fstab
[06:54] <orangey> hmmm.
[06:54] <robin_2> cave and run mount -a again.
[06:54] <orangey> kubuntu should likely ship with a lower hal right now
[06:54] <robin_2> cave it should work :) i think.
[06:54] <robin_2> orangey: yes, the one in RC1.
[06:55] <orangey> robin_, why is it shipping with a newer one?
[06:55] <orangey> robin_, it's actually broken right now.
[06:55] <robin_2> orangey: I dont' know, but RC1 was working..
[06:55] <robin_2> *did work.
[06:55] <orangey> robin_, strange..
[06:55] <robin_2> orangey: yes
[06:55] <orangey> robin_, are you using the rc package now?
[06:55] <orangey> aseigo!!!!!!!!!!
[06:55] <_martin> Q: I have managed to mount a nfs folder in my home directory, but althought i have assigned read AND write, I can only read. This is my fstab: <IP_ADDRESS>:/home/server  /home/martin/server    nfs          rw            0    0 --- and this is my /etc/exports:/home/martin/ *(rw,async,all_squash)
[06:56] <robin_2> orangey: No, i'm just waiting till the fix it.. and i hope it will be soon..
[06:56] <orangey> robin_, it can't be.
[06:56] <robin_2> _martin: ntfs writing is not possibl
[06:56] <orangey> robin_, ubuntu works with the newer one.
[06:56] <cave> ok... HDB is working now!
[06:56] <cave> but for hda1... mount: unknown filesystem type 'fat'
[06:56] <orangey> robin_, actually, it is. it's just dangerous
[06:56] <orangey> robin_, and I think they're waiting till kde 3.5 comes out..
[06:56] <orangey> robin_, since that *does* support the newest hal / dbus
[06:57] <robin_2> orangey: before they fix it..
[06:57] <robin_2> orangey: wtf..
[06:57] <_martin> But there is an option for writeable in the options
[06:57] <orangey> robin_, writing to ntfs is possible, just dangerous
[06:57] <robin_2> orangey: yeah, i mean the hal stuff.
[06:58] <orangey> _martin, there are lots of kinds of NTFS that aren't really well documented by MS. So, it's hard to write a driver that knows how to identify them and write to them.
[06:58] <orangey> _martin, so for quite some time, writing was considered a fool's sport.  I have mounted another ext3 filesystem to my computer (ext3) NOT NTFS
[06:59] <_martin> NFS
[06:59] <_martin> filesharing
[06:59] <orangey> _martin, what is your question?
[07:00] <orangey> cave: the name for fat32
[07:00] <orangey> robin_2, yeah.. didn't spot it : )
[07:00] <orangey> robin_2, this is why I recommended that my friends not upgrade to breezy for a week or two : )
[07:00] <_martin> orangey: how to make it writeable
[07:01] <robin_2> orangey: yeah, but they should have delayed the kubuntu release, it is __NOT__ stable.
[07:01] <orangey> _martin, Ok, start from the beginning, since I obviously came too late.. are we talking about ntfs?
[07:02] <orangey> robin_2, but did they know that before release day?
[07:02] <_martin> orangey: not NTFS, but a ext3 filesystem on another computer mounted with nfs
[07:02] <orangey> since ubuntu is gnome-driven, I think it's expected that kubuntu will always have some hiccups.. think of that admin mode bug
[07:02] <robin_2> orangey: yes, I mentioned it ion bugzilla.
[07:03] <orangey> _martin, well, you don't need to specify.. if you have write permissions, you write.
[07:03] <robin_2> orangey: but that's not the only problem.. kaffeine is also very _unstable_..
[07:03] <orangey> robin_2, well, it's "stable" if you put xine and disable arts : )
[07:03] <orangey> but you're right.. it doesn't work out of the box AT ALL
[07:03] <_martin> orangey: I have managed to mount a nfs folder in my home directory, but althought i have assigned read AND write, I can only read. This is my fstab: <IP_ADDRESS>:/home/server  /home/martin/server    nfs          rw            0    0 --- and this is my /etc/exports:/home/martin/ *(rw,async,all_squash)
[07:04] <robin_2> orangey: try fullscreen with xine, and it crashes.. at least by me.
[07:04] <_martin> orangey: but as you see, I DO HAVE set the right write permissions
[07:04] <_martin> orangey: so that's the problem...
[07:04] <robin_2> orangey: and kaffeine with xine engine, won't let you open a file, if one is allready opened or playing.. it crashes too...
[07:05] <nikki_a> _martin, erm, that doesn't look right
[07:05] <robin_2> orangey: the only thing i'm really happy with is that with breezy I can finally use suspend-to-ram and hibernate on my laptop even when using ndiswrapper...
[07:06] <orangey> _martin, try this from remote server: chmod gou+wrx /home/server/testfile
[07:06] <orangey> robin_2, what kind of laptop?
[07:06] <orangey> robin_2, you need to disable your artsd
[07:06] <nikki_a> _martin: you are aware that the exports should be on the server, and should name the path of the server side, ie /home/server in this cas, right?
[07:06] <orangey> robin_2, the same thing happened to me till I did that..
[07:06] <cave> ok just one little thing now.. how do i delete that empty /mnt/windows folder?
[07:06] <orangey> nikki_a, good point.. he's talking about his fstab, though..
[07:06] <nikki_a> _martin: in what you've pasted, it almost looks like you're talking about the exports file on the local side, and even there, it has the wrong path
[07:07] <_martin> nikki_a:yes
[07:07] <nikki_a> orangey: its not an fstab issue, its a nfs exports issue
[07:07] <Kyaneos> hi
[07:07] <_martin> nikki_a:yes, just a typo here in the chat the actual path is /home/server
[07:08] <orangey> nikki_a, fair enough
[07:09] <robin_2> orangey: cheapo dell inspiron 1100
[07:09] <robin_2> cave first make sure you don't have anything mounted on it.. remove it with sudo rm -rf /mnt/windows
[07:09] <bonggnu> hi
[07:09] <robin_2> cave don't make a typo, or you are in serious trouble. :)
[07:10] <richard> Anyone install the Final Release of Breezy?
[07:10] <bonggnu> hi, i missed the proyect window in k3b, how could "call" it, to make a project
[07:10] <cave> thats the inverse command from sudo mkdir /mnt/windows? :P
[07:10] <robin_2> orangey: and where do you disable artsd ?
[07:11] <orangey> robin_2, system settings > sound server or such
[07:11] <robin_2> orangey: oh yes of course.
[07:11] <cave> yay it disappeared~
[07:11] <nikki_a> robin_2: using rmdir would be safer
[07:11] <robin_2> nikki_a: lol, didn't knew that command
[07:11] <bonggnu> where could i locate the config file of k3b of my user?
[07:11] <robin_2> nikki_a: will keep that in mind..
[07:11] <_martin> orangey: what you suggested worked.. i could write to that file... but I can't make new files and folders or stuff... or it's kinda lost it's point if I have to to that with all files... what to do?
[07:11] <robin_2> orangey: ok I will try it..
[07:12] <nikki_a> robin_2: well, rmdir won't do anything, other than print a message, if you forget to umount it :)
[07:12] <robin_2> nikki_a: ok :)
[07:13] <robin_2> yakuake is **really** cool
[07:14] <torkiano> hello!! I upgrade to breeze and my serial-mouse don't work!!!! How can I configure it?
[07:14] <torkiano> Thanks
[07:14] <robin_2> torkiano: np
[07:15] <torkiano> i try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but i can't choose the type of mouse
[07:15] <torkiano> :-(
[07:16] <robin_2> orangey: doesn't make a difference, it is still crashing when I try to open another file.
[07:16] <richard> I've had problems with the final release of breezy, seems the bugs that have been plaguing earler beta releases are still here.
[07:17] <robin_2> richard: plus new ones..
[07:17] <richard> Wifi can't be enabled or disabled, on my system in administrator mode. . .
[07:18] <richard> I'm using Ubuntu now and it's pretty sweet, even thought I prefer KDE.
[07:18] <_martin> orangey: do I have to do that command you gave me to the root folder to get it working?
[07:18] <robin_2> richard: I hate gnome, it is just plain ugly :)
[07:18] <richard> Why did they release the final of breezy with major bugs?
[07:18] <_martin> orangey: I mean the /home/server folder
[07:18] <orangey> _martin, that command is a bad general idea.. but it'll help you debug permission issues
[07:19] <robin_2> richard: really no idea..
[07:19] <_martin> ok
[07:19] <_martin> orangey: so how make the whole of my /home/server writeable to me on the other computer?
[07:19] <richard> Ubuntu isn't ugly if you download and install desktop backgrounds, different Icon sets, and Splash screens.
[07:20] <richard> I've got a ton of these on my computer now, and it looks very nice.
[07:20] <robin_2> richard: I have used ubuntu hoary with different themes for about 5 months, I really dislike it..
[07:20] <robin_2> richard: but that is my view :)
[07:20] <torkiano> anyone can help me? My mouse doesn't work!! Downgrade to hoary? :-(
[07:21] <orangey> _martin, well, you have to rule out permissions problems.. so make a *subdirectory* globally writeable (777; gou+wrx)
[07:21] <orangey> then if that works, you'll know it's a permissions problem.
[07:21] <orangey> if not, then it's another problem.
[07:21] <richard> Well, to each his own, I'd use KDE if they can get it to function properly. . ..I need WiFi connectablility!!!!!
[07:22] <richard> I had the newest Version of Suse 10 on my system last week and it was pretty good. Much more improved over earlier versions. . . .
[07:22] <robin_2> richard: but those wifimanager are only frontends to command like tools, if you can get it to work in ubuntu it should work in kubuntu too.
[07:22] <robin_2> richard: suse is nice, too bad It isn't debian based :)
[07:23] <frank23> richard: If the kde wifi tool doesn't work, you can install gnome-system-tools  and run network-admin
[07:23] <woddf2> Where do I get KGpg?
[07:24] <richard> I can't enable my wifi in the administrator mode. It enables for about 1 sec. then goes back into disable. . .
[07:24] <woddf2> apt-get couldn't find it.
[07:24] <frank23> richard: network-admin should work
[07:24] <robin_2> richard: I had that too, but I just use wpa_supplicant and ifconfig wlan0 up.. that seems to work (with ndiswrapper)>.
[07:25] <frank23> richard: in hoary the kde wifi config didn't work and that's what I did. I thought they fixed it but maybe not ....
[07:25] <woddf2> Neither Adept nor apt-get could find KGpg. Where do I get it?
[07:25] <frank23> woddf2: its in universe
[07:25] <woddf2> Oh
[07:25] <richard> I'll keep working on it. . . .
[07:26] <woddf2> How do I add the universe repository?
[07:26] <frank23> woddf2: in adept go to manage repositories and enable universe
[07:26] <richard> Good chating to you all. . . .got to run. . ..day is short and this computer came burn up the hours.
[07:27] <woddf2> I went to Manage Repositories but I didn't find the universe repository.
[07:27] <woddf2> Oh, I see it now.
[07:27] <robin_2> woddf2: look again :)
[07:28] <cave> how do i download mp3 playback support for amarok?
[07:28] <cave> i got mpeglib but that didnt do it
[07:29] <frank23> cave: gstreamer0.8-mad is supposed to add mp3 support
[07:31] <cave> cant find that one in the repositories
[07:31] <frank23> cave: either in universe or multiverse
[07:32] <robin_2> cave: in universe
[07:34] <woddf2> It worked!
[07:34] <woddf2> Thanks
[07:34] <elementarmy> how do i get mp3 playback on amaroK?
[07:34] <robin_2> gstreamer0.8-mad is supposed to add mp3 support
[07:35] <robin_2> elementarmy: you can find it in the universe repositories..
[07:35] <elementarmy> wheres that?
[07:35] <robin_2> elementarmy: enable them in your package manager.
[07:35] <elementarmy> cool thanks
[07:36] <frank23> if  gstreamer0.8-mad doesn't work, amarok-xine definitly works
[07:37] <cave> meh.. cant find either.. ive enabled all universe an dmultiverse repositories
[07:38] <robin_2> cave you have updated them ?
[07:38] <robin_2> cave apt-get update
[07:39] <cave> oh! stupid me :P
[07:39] <cave> sorry guys... i'm new to linux -.-
[07:39] <elementarmy> i cant find ether of them
[07:40] <robin_2> elementarmy: ask cave :)
[07:40] <cave> elementarmy: on the oolbar, click on adept >> fetch updates
[07:40] <elementarmy> already did that
[07:40] <cave> oh
[07:40] <cave> then i dunno :X
[07:41] <cave> did you do hat after enabling the sources?
[07:41] <elementarmy> yes
[07:41] <cave> *that
[07:41] <robin_2> robin@kubuntu:/mnt$ apt-cache search gstreamer | grep mad
[07:41] <robin_2> gstreamer0.8-mad - MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer
[07:42] <robin_2> robin@kubuntu:/mnt$ apt-cache search amarok-xine
[07:42] <robin_2> amarok-gstreamer - GStreamer engine for the amaroK audio player
[07:42] <robin_2> amarok-xine - xine engine for the amaroK audio player
[07:42] <robin_2> they are there really
[07:42] <robin_2> and sorry for the paste..
[07:42] <elementarmy> also how could i login as su
[07:43] <robin_2> sudo su
[07:43] <elementarmy> can i change the password?
[07:43] <robin_2> !root
[07:43] <ubotu> well, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:43] <robin_2> !sudo
[07:43] <ubotu> I guess sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:43] <robin_2> take a look there.
[07:44] <elementarmy> cool iam root :-)
[07:47] <cave> yay xine worked
[07:50] <troth> can someone give me link for a good dowloading and installing tutorial because i am just not understanding this
[07:50] <frank23> cave: in amarok you mean? did gstreamer0.8-mad not work?
[07:50] <tenco> hi! ive updated now my second box to breezy. now kdm doesnt work anymore!
[07:50] <frank23> !tell troth about repos
[07:50] <tenco> is this a known problem? how can i fix it?
[07:50] <cave> nope... but maybe i just didnt set it up properly...
[07:51] <robin_2> troth: what do you want to install ?
[07:51] <cave> is there a reason to choose gstreamer over xine anyways?
[07:51] <tenco> on the first system i updated kdm worked but X was slow like hell until i rebooted the box two times
[07:51] <troth> i want to get a bit torrent program going so i can slowly phase windows out more and more
[07:51] <frank23> cave: no, I never use gstreamer at all
[07:53] <ph8> hey guys, got a couple of quick newbie questions apologies in advance:
[07:53] <frank23> troth: you can install ktorrent easily. azureus is a bit harder but not too much
[07:53] <ph8> I'm trying to find out how much free disk space i had - though the command was 'quota' - obviously not?
[07:53] <ph8> 2. I want to stop something in init.d starting, i heard there's a binary for this?
[07:53] <frank23> ph8: df
[07:53] <ph8> ty
[07:54] <troth> i tried apt-get of bit tornado and regular old bit torrent, but i dont know where they went or how to apply them
[07:54] <robin_2> troth: there are some bittorrent clients in the repositories.. which pacakge manager do you use?
[07:54] <troth> bit tornado
[07:54] <robin_2> troth: try ktorrent
[07:54] <troth> k
[07:55] <robin_2> it will be placed in the internet category in the k-start menu
[07:55] <robin_2> troth: you know how to download with adept or apt or synaptic ?
[07:55] <frank23> !bum
[07:55] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[07:56] <frank23> ph8: you can use bum for the init.d scripts
[07:56] <troth> i have kynaptic, but yes ive learned the commands for installing but i dont really know what happens after that
[07:57] <robin_2> troth: synaptic works better IMHO.. anyway normally the new program shows up in the menu.. or you have to search for it :
[07:59] <troth> ok ktorrent does not show, should i look for synaptic?
[08:00] <cave> hey does rhythmbox run in kde?
[08:00] <robin_2> troth what if you type in konsole : ktorrent
[08:01] <troth> bash: ktorrent: command not found
[08:01] <pussfeller> i added some custom keyboard mappings to xkb and when I upgraded, now xceyboard-config is messed up and i have no virtual term
[08:01] <robin_2> troth: hmm, than you havent' installed it (correctly).. well type in konsole: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[08:01] <robin_2> and after that use synaptic.
[08:01] <pussfeller> gnome wont even boot at all
[08:01] <robin_2> to install ktorrent
[08:01] <troth> k
[08:02] <pussfeller> why would you wanna run rthymbox...
[08:03] <pussfeller> but yeah it will if you install it
[08:05] <troth> no results for ktorrent in synaptic either
[08:06] <apokryphos> troth: enable the universe repository
[08:06] <troth> k
[08:06] <Originoo> packages.ubuntu.com
[08:06] <Originoo> universe
[08:06] <apokryphos> not sure if it's on hoary, though
[08:06] <robin_2> troth: ah, you have't enabed universe
[08:07] <robin_2> !universe
[08:07] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[08:07] <robin_2> !repositories
[08:07] <ubotu> somebody said sources was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[08:07] <troth> how do i enable pls
[08:07] <robin_2> ok open synaptic
[08:07] <apokryphos> troth: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the line with "universe"
[08:08] <apokryphos> *lines
[08:08] <robin_2> go to settings
[08:08] <robin_2> click repositories
[08:08] <robin_2> and select the entries who have the universe section..
[08:08] <robin_2> or manually edit the files as apokryphos said.
[08:09] <troth> there is no repositories in the settings tab
[08:10] <apokryphos> troth: if you're using synaptic, use the link above -- it explains it for you
[08:10] <troth> k
[08:15] <troth> ok so i am basically opening all the repository sies that are available?
[08:15] <apokryphos> not all; you just wanna enable Universe
[08:15] <troth> k the link seems different than the version i have
[08:16] <tenco> why does the nvidia module for X lack TNT2 support in breezy?
[08:16] <troth> You are adding the "universe" component.
[08:16] <troth>  Packages in this component are not supported. Are you sure?
[08:16] <apokryphos> troth: then just edit the file as I suggested
[08:16] <troth> when i add a shaded link in the repositories list it gives this warning: k
[08:17] <troth> k ill try the edit
[08:17] <apokryphos> troth: alt+f2 -> kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:20] <troth> Command 'kwrite/etc/sources.list' not found.
[08:20] <[square] > how to use katapult?
[08:20] <troth> the edit command errored out too
[08:20] <apokryphos> troth: put in exactly what I said :)
[08:20] <apokryphos> !tell [square]  about katapult
[08:21] <insanekane> [square] : use Alt+Space, or Ctrl+space to activate it ... then start typing something (e.g. type Kopete)
[08:21] <troth> you're right i must have typed wrong
[08:21] <troth> k got it open
[08:23] <troth> says this http://pastebin.ca/25610
[08:24] <troth> so i want to delete the 2 links that end with universe correct?
[08:24] <woddf2> Haldo
[08:24] <woddf2> How do I configure a Sound Blaster 16?
[08:24] <apokryphos> troth: you're on hoary?
[08:24] <troth> yes
[08:24] <apokryphos> troth: you won't be able to get ktorrent anyway
[08:25] <apokryphos> it's only in Breezy
[08:25] <troth> lol ok
[08:25] <apokryphos> troth: but it's good to enable the universe and multiverse repositories
[08:25] <apokryphos> troth: remove the "#" from the repositories that have Universe
[08:26] <apokryphos> troth: and add "multiverse" to all the lines that have universe, too
[08:26] <orangey> where do I report kubuntu bugs??
[08:26] <apokryphos> bugzilla
[08:26] <orangey> THE bugzilla?
[08:26] <apokryphos> bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[08:26] <orangey> thanks
[08:26] <woddf2> How do I configure a Sound Blaster 16?
[08:26] <troth> k just the 2 in the middle correct?
[08:27] <apokryphos> troth: yup
[08:27] <troth> k
[08:28] <woddf2> No one is paying attention.
[08:28] <troth> k now reads as follows http://pastebin.ca/25611
[08:28] <Originoo> woddf2: kmix
[08:29] <woddf2> What should I do in kmix?
[08:29] <apokryphos> troth: why did you add multiuniverse?
 troth: and add "multiverse" to all the lines that have universe, too
[08:30] <apokryphos> troth: I said add "multiverse"; so for example the first line in that part would read:  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse
[08:30] <troth> oh sorry
[08:30] <troth> read wrong
[08:30] <woddf2> I still don't know what to do in KMix.
[08:30] <apokryphos> even though in physics the postulated multiverse encompasses the universe :P
[08:30] <Originoo> woddf2: smoething u want to do to configure your card
[08:31] <troth> k they read multiverse
[08:31] <apokryphos> troth: save it and close kwrite; then in terminal: sudo apt-get update
[08:31] <woddf2> There's just the menu bar followed by "Current mixer: [blank, unclickable combination box] "
[08:31] <woddf2> .
[08:31] <Originoo> woddf2: your question was just how to configure....
[08:31] <woddf2> It didn't detect it when I installed it.
[08:32] <troth> k done
[08:34] <raingrove> how do i do a screencapture under kubuntu
[08:34] <woddf2> raingrove: ksnapshot
[08:35] <woddf2> raingrove: It's under Graphics -> Screen Capture Program (KSnapshot).
[08:36] <troth> so how do i get a torrent program going?
[08:38] <apokryphos> troth: do you have a good internet connection?
[08:39] <troth> yes t2
[08:39] <apokryphos> I'd suggest you upgrade to breezy then -- it's the latest stable version of Ubuntu
[08:41] <Phobos> Where are the config files for katapult?
[08:41] <raingrove> woddf2,  Thanks
[08:42] <troth> apokryphos: is there an apt-get command or anything easy like that?
[08:42] <apokryphos> yup; here's a guide:
[08:42] <apokryphos> !breezyupgrade
[08:42] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, breezyupgrade is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:42] <troth> perfect thx
[08:43] <apokryphos> troth: you'll want to use the Apt-Get method, ideally
[08:44] <troth> k, learining the shell eficiently is mainly why im switching
[08:44] <woddf2> How do I install a Sound Blaster 16 sound card?
[08:45] <troth> install w/o verification?
[08:45] <woddf2> ...or configure
[08:45] <woddf2> ?
[08:45] <apokryphos> woddf2: you might have more luck with non-kde-related questions in #ubuntu
[08:45] <daveg67> heres a tricky question?!?!  My wireless pcmcia wireless card works fine only after I unplug it and then plug it in again.
[08:47] <daveg67> It also worked fine without the unplug replugin dance under ubuntu, but when I switched to kubuntu it needs to be popped out and then back in again.
[08:47] <troth>  Kbps! w00t
[08:47] <troth> 113
[08:49] <daveg67> it was doing the same thing under 5.04 as it is still doing it under 5.10
[08:50] <daveg67> anybody else have a similar problem?
[08:51] <_victor> ola
[08:52] <daveg67> hi
[08:53] <whig> hello
[08:53] <Firetech> How can you inactivate the spelling checker in konqueror (forms)
[08:53] <Firetech> ?
[08:53] <whig> just upgraded my laptop from kubuntu 5.04 to 5.10, sound stopped working...
[08:53] <whig> is there a known issue?
[08:54] <whig> no apparent errors in logs, as far as diagnostics look, sound should be up, just no sound
[08:57] <cave> meh... i put a shortcut to the trashcan on the desktop but it only shows the " full" icon even when its mepty
[09:05] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:06] <craft4> hi
[09:15] <kkathman> Good day all :)
[09:17] <mifritscher_> hi
[09:19] <kihaji> sudo is not working for me at all
[09:20] <hussam> should I install krita 1.4.2 from http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-142.php or is krita 1.4.1 that shipped with breezy enough?
[09:23] <kkathman> sudo doesnt work??
[09:23] <kkathman> never heart of that
[09:23] <kkathman> heard
[09:26] <kihaji> I guess my user wasn't added to the sudoers file on install.
[09:26] <kihaji> it's fixed now.
[09:29] <Latem> does apt-get resolve dependancies? for example, if X requires Y, does "apt-get install X" also install Y if I dont have Y?
[09:29] <hussam> Latem: yes it will do that
[09:29] <Latem> ok tahnks
[09:30] <kkathman> Latem:  No, typically you do an apt-get install, and then it will tell you what things might be missing.
[09:30] <kkathman> sorry hussam, thats not been my experience
[09:30] <Latem> i didt get that?
[09:30] <Latem> cant u elaborate
[09:31] <Latem> like if I do apt-get install X, it will comlaint cant do it due to failed Y dependacy?
[09:31] <kkathman> apt-get will get the package that you ask, however, if, for instance a library is required that hasnt been installed, it doesnt guarantee it
[09:31] <kkathman> Adept is better at that tho
[09:31] <Latem> oh so Adept can hadle it though?
[09:31] <kkathman> but it wont hurt anything
[09:32] <kkathman> you'll just get an error to get a particular package
[09:32] <kkathman> But, in many cases, you might get everything
[09:32] <hussam> kkathman, Latem: apt-get will resolve dependencies. for example apt-get install X will ask if you want to install x and y
[09:32] <Latem> that would be nicer
[09:33] <Latem> like urpmi does that exact thing
[09:33] <Latem> so i was wandering
[09:33] <hussam> should I stick to krita 1.4.1 that shipped with breezy or do I upgrade to 1.4.2 from http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-142.php ?
[09:34] <jrattner1> Why does my i686 kernel crash whenever i modprobe ndiswrapper
[09:36] <kkathman> hussam: I would steer you to the man apt-get and let you read that.
[09:37] <Latem> it says it resolves dependancies
[09:37] <Latem> in the man page
[09:37] <hussam> kkathman: well I'm just talking from experience. I've been pretty happy with apt-get
[09:38] <Latem> "All packages required by the package(s) specified for installation will also be retrieved and installed. '
[09:38] <Latem> under install argument
[09:38] <hussam> Latem: a simple apt-get check will tell you if there are broke packages.
[09:39] <Latem> ok i see\should have looked for a man page on the net 1st
[09:39] <Latem> =[
[09:41] <poimen> were is located make in kubuntu?
[09:41] <poimen> tring to install vmware
[09:42] <raingrove> poimen, make is not included in basic installation
[09:42] <raingrove> install this package -> build-essential
[09:43] <poimen> ok
[09:43] <poimen> thankx
[09:43] <poimen> installing them
[09:43] <hussam> poimen: you'll need the linux-headers for your kernel as well for vmware if I recall correctly.
[09:44] <poimen> I am using breezy
[09:44] <poimen> whta should I use
[09:44] <poimen> ?
[09:45] <raingrove> linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>-386
[09:45] <kkathman> hussam:  I use apt-get exclusively and its usually quite reliable, and it does its best to get everything but there are somethings it has no control over :)
[09:45] <raingrove> linux-headers-386
[09:45] <kkathman> I'd rather use apt-get than any automated package manager, personally :)
[09:45] <sproingie> aptitude for me
[09:45] <sproingie> better dependency handling
[09:47] <hussam> kkathman: can you help with something? I wanna know if I should upgrade from krita 1.4.1 that shipped with breezy to krita 1.4.2
[09:47] <poimen> ok someone has vmware here working on kubuntu breezy?
[09:48] <poimen> because I get also a error abou gcc
[09:48] <raingrove> what exactly is the error
[09:49] <hussam> poimen: apt-get install g++-3.4 gcc-3.4 ( breezy kernel was compiled with gcc-3.4 )
[09:52] <poimen> Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "3.4.5", while you are trying to use
[09:52] <poimen> "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2". This configuration is not supported and VMware
[09:52] <poimen> Workstation cannot work in such configuration. Please either recompile your
[09:52] <poimen> kernel with "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2", or restart /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
[09:52] <poimen> with CC environment variable pointing to the "gcc" version "3.4.5".
[09:52] <poimen> that is the exact error
[09:52] <poimen> :(
[09:52] <hussam> poimen: do this: sudo apt-get install g++-3.4 gcc-3.4 ( breezy kernel was compiled with gcc-3.4 )
[09:53] <hussam> then export CC=gcc-3.4
[09:53] <poimen> ok installing packages now
[09:54] <hussam> what was the pref I add to make apt-get use proxy? anybody knows?
[09:58] <poimen> same error :(
[09:58] <hussam> did you export CC=gcc-3.4
[09:58] <poimen> yeah
[09:58] <poimen> :(
[09:58] <hussam> in the same konsole window?
[09:58] <poimen> yeah
[09:59] <huaning> I have trouble with NXclient
[09:59] <Phantom^^> hi guys what programs can i use for dvd playback other than kaffeine i'm getting real jerky playback in kaffeine so i was wondering if there were any others that i could use?
[10:00] <poimen> Phantom^^ you drive has dma enabled?
[10:00] <YHCIR`> does anyone know where i can get the kubuntu bacground image, as in this screenshot: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=470&slide=4&title=kubuntu+5.10+official+screenshots
[10:01] <poimen> now It worked
[10:01] <poimen> :)
[10:01] <poimen> I had to oto the export thing in the sam efolde of the vmware install lol
[10:01] <poimen> I did cd before
[10:05] <Riddell> YHCIR`: it's on the default breezy install
[10:06] <YHCIR`> i dont have kubuntu or ubuntu, i use mandriva
[10:06] <YHCIR`> i just liked the background :)
[10:12] <WMCoolmon> hey, i'm having a problem burning a DVD iso with k3b; it says ":-[ SET STREAMING failed with SK=5h/ASC=26h/ACQ=00h] : Input/output error"
[10:12] <toxix> hello
[10:13] <toxix> how can i install any software in kubuntu?
[10:13] <toxix> in ubuntu i use synaptic
[10:13] <WMCoolmon> try kynaptic
[10:13] <olwin_> kynaptic in hoary , adept in breezy
[10:13] <Originoo> u can also use synaptic too
[10:14] <toxix> adept fits me
[10:14] <toxix> thx
[10:15] <WMCoolmon> hmm, how does one go about upgrading to breezy?
[10:15] <toxix> how can i install ati radeon drivers?Is all the same in ubuntu and kubuntu??
[10:16] <frank23> toxix: ubuntu has gnome and kubuntu kde
[10:16] <frank23> !tell toxix about ati
[10:16] <toxix> i know
[10:17] <frank23> !tell WMCoolmon about upgrade2breezy
[10:18] <toxix> how can i make kubuntu to use better display refresh rate?
[10:18] <toxix> there is no such option in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:18] <frank23> toxix: can you change it in system settings?
[10:19] <toxix> i can use max 85 hz
[10:19] <kina> hallo
[10:19] <toxix> i know my monitor supports 99
[10:19] <WMCoolmon> thanks frank23
[10:19] <frank23> toxix: well you can change the Horizfreq and vertrefresh in xorg.conf
[10:20] <frank23> toxix: if you you know your monitors specs.
[10:20] <toxix> frank23 i know, but i cant find needen lines in xorg.conf
[10:21] <kina> hallo
[10:21] <Originoo> toxix: which resolution?
[10:21] <toxix> 1024x768
[10:21] <laser_tk> I lost in konqueror that bar, where's Location, Edit..etc. are. What I can do?
[10:22] <frank23> toxix: you're right... I don't have those lines anymore either
[10:22] <frank23> toxix: I find 85Hz is plenty though
[10:22] <toxix> i know
[10:22] <toxix> but 99Hz i better
[10:22] <toxix> anyway ill find it out later
[10:23] <Originoo> toxix: which monitor do you use?
[10:23] <toxix> compaq v710
[10:23] <bhna> nabend
[10:23] <toxix> be back in a sec
[10:29] <craft4> i tried to install the nvidia drivers and get this error msg http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/82 - can someone help me ?
[10:34] <frank23> craft4: do you have an ati card or nvidia?
[10:35] <frank23> craft4: because the error is a conflict between fglrx drivers and nvidia drivers I think
[10:35] <craft4> nvidia geforce fx go
[10:37] <frank23> craft4: did you install the fglrx drivers before?  anyways try to uninstall xorg-driver-fglrx if you have it
[10:37] <frank23> and what are the 158 packages not upgraded?
[10:38] <craft4> dont know about the 158 not upgraded packages, but i uninstalled the xorg-driver now
[10:39] <frank23> craft4: try to install nvidia now then
[10:39] <craft4> the nvidia driver installation works now -  thx :-)
[10:40] <libben> im trying to understand why gimp and adept are not showing themselves in the menu... and why i dont have some programs installed that should be installed with breezy.
[10:40] <frank23> craft4: you had the ati drivers installed ;-)
[10:41] <craft4> <-- linux newbie   ;-p
[10:48] <Firetech> is there no way of disabling the kde spell checker, I get disturbed b the red text :/
[10:53] <Firetech> found it
[10:54] <`Nomad> Hi..  My logs are full of this message:  [4320786.415000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[10:55] <Mighty96> How can I check my motherboars temperatures? It's chip's cooler keeps annoying sound so I'll check how much it's temperature grows if slow it from BIOS or just take it off
[10:55] <`Nomad> a bug?
[10:59] <parzol> hello
[10:59] <`Nomad> hi
[10:59] <parzol> anybody from poland??
[11:01] <`Nomad> Nobody here but us chicken. :)
[11:02] <cave> craft4: you got hardware acceleration working?
[11:03] <craft4> uhm, dont know? how can i check ?
[11:04] <cave> oh.. i tought i read you did
[11:04] <ubuntu> test
[11:05] <Riddell> ubuntu: working :)
[11:05] <Arthus> thx :)
[11:05] <cave> uuh you can test by trying to play Tuxracer or something :P
[11:05] <cave> if it runs smoothly then you got it
[11:05] <fatejudger> does anyone know that mac osx screensaver clone?
[11:06] <_mrmarcel> hallo
[11:06] <_mrmarcel> hrt mich wer
[11:06] <Arthus> damn it breezy really rocks
[11:06] <`Nomad> Arthus: Yup!! :)
[11:06] <craft4> cave: i am still stuck - i got a tutorial howto setup but i am not able to edit the xorg.conf (the tutorial say to remove load "dri" from the section "Module"
[11:07] <`Nomad> fatejudger: Which one?  http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&hs=0as&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&q=mac+os+x+screensaver+clone&spell=1
[11:10] <cave> where did you find the tut?
[11:10] <fatejudger> `Nomad: I tried googling it
[11:11] <fatejudger> `Nomad: I couldn't find it
[11:11] <craft4> it is a german forum: http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/artikel/1611/HOWTO-nVidia-Treiber--Systemoptimierung.html
[11:13] <cave> oh.. well that doesnt help me then :3
[11:13] <fatejudger> `Nomad: it's called Flurry, I had it in Hoary, but it was erased when I formatted and installed Breezy
[11:13] <fatejudger> `Nomad: I forget which package it was
[11:14] <fatejudger> `Nomad: wait, this is a Windows screensaver
[11:15] <craft4> cave: you said tuxrace - where can i get this ?
[11:15] <_P_> hi
[11:16] <fatejudger> craft4: adept
[11:18] <craft4> ist this a package or something else?
[11:19] <fatejudger> craft4: yes, it's a package
[11:19] <fatejudger> craft4: search for tux racer
[11:19] <cave> just ype tuxracer on the quickfilter
[11:19] <cave> its supposed to be a really fun racer
[11:19] <_P_> hi
[11:19] <fatejudger> frozen bubble is more fun
[11:19] <_P_> someone using openoffice2 on amd64 ?
[11:19] <fatejudger> no
[11:20] <cave> i wouldn't know, because i couldnt get it to work on my hardware yet ^^
[11:20] <fatejudger> openoffice2 doesn't work on amd64s?
[11:20] <_P_> fatejudger:  no, after the nex upgrade
[11:20] <_P_> *next
[11:20] <_P_> *sorry , last
[11:20] <fatejudger> Breezy?
[11:20] <_P_> yes
[11:21] <fatejudger> I don't think they use a very new version of OO2
[11:21] <craft4> i use synapsis and can't finde tux racer nor frozen bubble, guess i do something wrong
[11:21] <fatejudger> synaptic?
[11:22] <craft4> yes synaptic
[11:22] <fatejudger> do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[11:22] <cave> its in universe/games
[11:24] <fatejudger> I don't understand why Kubuntu doesn't have the OO2 RC2
[11:24] <fatejudger> it's been out for awhile
[11:24] <`Nomad> Does Amarok play streams from the net?
[11:25] <craft4> hmmm ...  universe / multiverse ? how can i enable that ?
[11:25] <craft4> and where ?
[11:25] <`Nomad> fatejudger: i found that this version crashed too often on me, I installed version 1 again
[11:25] <fatejudger> repositories
[11:25] <fatejudger> it's under some menu
[11:25] <fatejudger> `Nomad: version 1?
[11:25] <fatejudger> `Nomad: that's increadibly dated
[11:26] <poimen> someone here using vmware on kubuntu?
[11:27] <fatejudger> why would anyone want vmware?
[11:27] <poimen> because I work for a company tha use windows apps to prepare financial analisis to clients
[11:27] <poimen> and I I dont use windows on vmware I will use it in a partition
[11:28] <poimen> what I dont want to to fo
[11:28] <poimen> do*
[11:28] <poimen> to do*
[11:28] <xiglet> what repositories should I use to get mplayer with win32 codecs? (breezy)
[11:31] <raingrove> poimon / why not try whether it works on wine?
[11:32] <craft4> fatejudger: thank i found it and installed the racer, i will test it now, when i find the installation path  :-p
[11:35] <fatejudger> craft4: it goes in the KDE menu
[11:35] <slow-motion> n8
[11:35] <craft4> wasn't in the KDE menu, but i found it and i have about 1 - 2 fps
[11:36] <xtacocorex> quick question, i'm running hoary and kopete is slow when you click on a person's name to im them any reason why or is it just that way on this distro?
[11:37] <poimen> someone here using vmware on kubuntu?!!!
[11:37] <antgel> i'm trying to browse an nfs share in konqueror. i'm typing nfs://neil/home. i get auth failed, neil auth not supported. i can mount the nfs share fine with the mount command.
[11:37] <antgel> poimen: ask a better question
[11:38] <poimen> ok I get thi error when i lunch vmware and I have done that step like 5 times
[11:38] <poimen> vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured
[11:38] <poimen> for this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following command:
[11:38] <poimen> /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl.
[11:39] <poimen> and I have done that like 5 times and it continues to show me that output
[11:39] <chavo> poimen, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65638
[11:40] <chavo> the relevant part is 6.
[11:41] <poimen> ok thankx
[11:41] <poimen> :)
[11:42] <antgel> let's start with something easier. is konqueror nfs: browsing even supported?
[11:44] <chavo> antgel, not sure about that
[11:45] <poimen> chavo you are from heaven thankx alot vmware opened fast as hell!
[11:45] <antgel> this is a joke. i can see a million settings to do with fucking samba and nothing for nfs
[11:45] <chavo> poimen, don't tell everyone my secret :)
[11:47] <poimen> lol
[11:48] <antgel> for those of you who care, it is apparently supported using something called lisa
[11:48] <poimen> chavo you speek snpanish?
[11:48] <chavo> un pocito
[11:48] <poimen> ohh I see
[11:48] <poimen> by your nick I thouhg you were from mexico
[11:49] <chavo> antgel, lisa is in the repos
[11:49] <xtacocorex> antgel, i had to use lisa when i ran FC4, but was never successful at getting that or samba to work
[11:49] <libben> 5.10rc was release candidate?
[11:49] <xtacocorex> and somehow i screwed up my samba config because now i can't connect to my wife's computer
[11:50] <chavo> poimen, no it's a nickname that kind of stuck. but I got it from a bunch of friends who are from Mexico
[11:52] <jrattner1> Is there an automatic update "watcher" similar to the one in gnome for KDE
[11:52] <antgel> the face that lisa has to be installed on the server sucks so hard it's incredible
[11:53] <antgel> i had a girlfriend called lisa once...
[11:53] <antgel> about whom i could _not_ say the same
[11:53] <antgel> jrattner1: i'd like to know that as well. i understood that adept has it, but i couldn't find it. didn't look too hard though
[11:55] <poimen> I see