[08:01] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:08] <santa_> good morning everyone
[08:10] <vip> hi ho
[08:12] <santa_> valorie: hi, now that the GCC 5 transition is settled and I finished pondering about the kubuntu-automation design, I'm starting to look forward to become a kubuntu member, I have just read https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Membership so the next thing I'm planing to do is writing a couple of wiki pages with my contributions, anything else that I should prepare?
[08:13] <valorie> do that, and schedule a meeting
[08:14] <valorie> also write to the devel list and ask for nice statements at the bottom of your wiki page
[08:14] <valorie> you can do that in one email, actually
[08:15] <valorie> we usually schedule meeting using doodle or something like it
[08:17] <santa_> where is the meeting suposed to happen: here, #ubuntu-meeting, somewhere else?
[08:18] <valorie> here is fine
[08:18] <valorie> ubuntu-meeting has some weirdness to the scheduling
[08:19] <santa_> ok, thank you
[08:19] <santa_> btw I have a mail with a patch awaiting approval :P
[08:24] <valorie> santa_: I'll run listadmin immediately
[08:24] <valorie> :-)
[08:35] <valorie> santa_: approved
[08:35]  * valorie heads to bed
[08:35] <valorie> niters all
[08:36] <santa_> valorie: thanks!
[08:38] <santa_> sitter: so ... there is in kubuntu-devel new version of the patch providing git-clone-all and the new way of bumping of the build depends
[08:39] <santa_> regarding git-clone-all now I'm cloning using the upstream names obtained from ftp, not the static list of source packages we have
[08:40] <santa_> however there is just a loose end: the kdelibs repository is named kde4libs (following source package name) and not kdelibs
[08:41] <santa_> if you could make a symlink in alioth from kde4libs.git to kdelibs.git we won't need to harcode an if or use json file with "exceptions" (which is the kind of "staticness" which we don't like)
[08:42] <sitter> lrwxrwxrwx 1 apachelogger-guest scm_pkg-kde 12 Okt 19 08:42 kdelibs.git -> kde4libs.git
[08:43] <santa_> let me test...
[08:46] <santa_> gonna take a while, l have to thread the clone processes like you suggested :P
[09:52] <Riddell> !testers
[09:52] <Riddell> ↑
[09:55] <mparillo> Riddell: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/347/builds ???
[09:55] <Riddell> yep
[10:35] <santa_> $ git-clone-all
[10:35] <santa_> Summary:
[10:35] <santa_> All packages were cloned succesfully
[10:39] <santa_> Riddell: I have been thinking this saturday how to improve the automation scripts so they could be used anywhere ~ kubuntu/neon/siduction I you have a few minutes I could explain you the overall design I have in mind
[10:39] <santa_> s/I you/if you/
[11:13] <ahoneybun> anyone else have issues with konsole not opening ?
[11:24] <sick_rimmit> Just downloading the 347 iso, then I will test
[11:25] <ahoneybun> mm I'm not on a daily build
[11:25] <ahoneybun> just normal
[11:26] <ahoneybun> morning sick_rimmit
[11:26] <ahoneybun> checking for updates
[11:27] <ahoneybun> so I got konsole to start within /usr/bin
[11:27] <yofel> WFM, any error when opening it from some other terminal? Or something in .xsession-errors or dmesg?
[11:27] <ahoneybun> QCoreApplication::arguments: Please instantiate the QApplication object first
[11:28] <yofel> ah, so opening it from kickoff doesn't work?
[11:28] <ahoneybun> yea
[11:28] <ahoneybun> QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
[11:28] <ahoneybun> I got it to open with the terminal plugin in dolphin
[11:31] <Riddell> santa_: sure
[11:31] <yofel> do you see more than one konsole in kickoff if you search for it? Is the Icon correct?
[11:34] <soee> i did updates today here atmy  work pc and have this message about kwalled5.rc not writable or something after boot
[11:35] <santa_> Riddell: one the thing I wanted to is spliting a bit this tasks: 1. changing the files in debian/* 2. building the source 3. uploading the source
[11:35] <santa_> I think 1 sould be done in a separate script specific to the distro, we can share the other 2 with different files in kubuntu-automation/conf/
[11:36] <santa_> so the workflow would be something like this:
[11:36] <santa_> supose we have a ~/kde-all/ directory containing all the git repos
[11:37] <santa_> and that we have a new applications version to work on
[11:37] <santa_> inside ~/kde-all/ we would do:
[11:38] <santa_> $ do-all -r applications new-release
[11:38] <santa_> $ do-all -r applications buildsource
[11:38] <santa_> $ do-all -r applications uploadsource
[11:38] <santa_> or everything toghether
[11:39] <yofel> please add a $ do-all -r applications push-changes, that should not be part of new-release
[11:39] <santa_> $ do-all -r applications "new-release && buildsource && uploadsource"
[11:39] <santa_> yofel: that would be
[11:39] <yofel> running git push over all changes
[11:39] <santa_> $ do-all -r applications git push origin branch
[11:40] <yofel> ok, perfect :)
[11:40] <santa_> I'm doing something similar in siduction and works pretty well
[11:41] <Riddell> sounds intertesting
[11:41] <yofel> right, now that's synchronously run as part of the branch updates, and it's a rather common source of bad changes when the script crashes
[11:41] <santa_> note that also being able to execute the scripts that changes the packaging i.e. "new-release" makes things easier to debug
[11:41] <santa_> oh and one thing more
[11:41] <sgclark> thats sounds nice
[11:42] <santa_> I have an script in siduction to check if there are missing changes or upload files
[11:42] <santa_> to detect if something is missing
[11:42] <santa_> that would be:
[11:42] <santa_> do-all -r applications check-changes
[11:42] <santa_> or
[11:42] <santa_> do-all -r applications check-upload
[11:43] <yofel> we currently detect that with exception handling, how would do-all handle command errors?
[11:43] <santa_> hmm, let me clarify something
[11:44] <santa_> new-release, buildsource, uploadsource and check-* would be separate scripts in $PATH
[11:45] <santa_> and they are all meant to be run in the git repo of a package
[11:45] <santa_> so they would do what they have to do inspecting the debian/* files
[11:46] <yofel> sounds good so far
[11:47] <santa_> it worked reasonaby well for me @ siduction
[11:48] <yofel> right, but currently our script detects that e.g. a patch cannot be applied which makes the package build fail, will move that to manual/ and at the end tell you why it moved it
[11:49] <yofel> so, if I run do-all over all 200-something applications, how would I see which ones couldn't be built?
[11:49] <yofel> (ok, missing .changes would be one way)
[11:49] <santa_> do-all -r applications check-changes
[11:49] <yofel> right, so back to my question, why is that seperate?
[11:50] <yofel> In general, I think your design is great and solves a bunch of pain points in our current process. Just this part is nagging me a bit
[11:51] <santa_> check-changes? separate from what?
[11:51] <yofel> well, you have the information that something went wrong when e.g. buildsource is being run, why do I need another script to check whether something went wrong?
[11:52] <yofel> maybe I'm just misunderstanding the architecture...?
[11:52] <santa_> ah, because buildsource spits the output of dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -sa -S
[11:52] <sgclark> mm yeah, I  would like to know at end of script if I need to fix stuff
[11:53] <santa_> (in its current state in siduction)
[11:53] <sgclark> and at end will it spit out these packages failed?
[11:53] <yofel> which I believe returns !=0 when something fails
[11:53] <sgclark> I tend to wander off when 200 packages are running
[11:54] <santa_> hmm, you gave me another idea XD
[11:54] <yofel> that's why our script does subprocess.check_call or so to get the return code of whatever it runs
[11:55] <santa_> we could indeed print a summary of the failed commands in do-all
[11:55] <sgclark> excellent.
[11:55] <santa_> that would remove the need of a separate check-changes script
[12:04] <soee> mgraesslin: nice blog post
[12:04] <yofel> where's the bugtracker for plasma-sddm again?
[12:04] <mgraesslin> thanks
[12:06] <pursuivant> muon (redesign) v5.4.1-96-ge601286 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/UpdatesPage.qml
[12:06] <pursuivant> While loading, show a special loading page
[12:06] <pursuivant> Instead of lying saying there's no updates
[12:06] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/e60128613acc6285f6f258c13b6ce49a2216ad69
[12:06] <pursuivant> muon (redesign) v5.4.1-97-g70d80c4 * Aleix Pol: discover (2 files)
[12:06] <pursuivant> Fix some issues in the PaginateModel
[12:06] <pursuivant> ModelTest for king
[12:06] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/70d80c4770298ac8bb413f944bc9419dd3ed89f5
[12:07] <pursuivant> muon (redesign) v5.4.1-98-g696cc2f * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/BrowsingPage.qml
[12:07] <pursuivant> Add a scrollbar to the main page
[12:07] <pursuivant> So that if the view is too small, we can scroll down
[12:07] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/696cc2f67e1ab5245c13492c51a36b27995ba547
[12:07] <pursuivant> muon (redesign) v5.4.1-99-gffc9657 * Aleix Pol: libmuon/backends/PackageKitBackend/PKTransaction.cpp
[12:07] <pursuivant> Also show packagekit errors on the console
[12:07] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/ffc9657a4e80c7d1fe5ecdd0473a9fdd1c944d62
[12:07] <pursuivant> muon (redesign) v5.4.1-100-gad4336b * Aleix Pol: discover/PaginateModel.cpp
[12:07] <pursuivant> debug--
[12:07] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/ad4336b67098774d5b08811527fcf6715e4d9006
[12:07] <pursuivant> muon (redesign) v5.4.1-101-gd14bec8 * Aleix Pol: libmuon/backends/DummyBackend/DummyBackend.cpp
[12:07] <pursuivant> Delay dummy backend initialization
[12:07] <pursuivant> This way it's more similar to other backends
[12:07] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/d14bec86d4237241a36396d6cee9fc64704bc103
[12:29] <mparillo> Initial Wily RC Tests going well. I am still getting this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351805
[12:46] <soee> mparillo: so this is what i had after updates
[12:50] <lordievader> Ah, I still have a Vivid laying around, time to upgrade I guess.
[13:30] <ovidiu-florin> anyone here?
[13:32] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: do you know how can I add KDevelop to the kci?
[13:32] <Riddell> kci only does frameworks builds, does kdevelop have one?
[13:33] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[13:33] <ovidiu-florin> Kdevelop is on frameworks for some time now
[13:34] <ovidiu-florin> https://www.kdevelop.org/frameworks/kdevelop-master-now-depends-kde-frameworks-5
[13:34] <ovidiu-florin> since august
[13:41] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: do the kubuntu_unstable branches compile with it?
[13:42] <allee> fresh wily networkm.: why is by default there is no shared DHCP connection for any ethernet anymore?   Do we expect people to setup a DHCP ethernet config themself?
[13:58] <santa_> yofel, sgclark: https://paste.kde.org/ph9spnecw
[13:58] <marco-parillo> Testing the Wily Release Candidate install in a VM. I got a black screen. Alt F2 brought up krunner and I could type firefox and konsole and both work, but alt f1 does not bring up the Kicker. Is this an existing bug? First time I ran into it, and I install frequently into VMs.
[13:59] <sgclark> I had that when I clicked enable 3d..
[13:59] <sgclark> turned it off and desktop was happy again
[14:00] <sgclark> guess it does not like that (nvidia here)
[14:01] <sgclark> santa_: that works for me
[14:01] <yofel> okay, why the hell did my default browser change to rekonq?!?
[14:01] <sgclark> oh my
[14:01] <marco-parillo> Hmm, I see it is checked, but it is greyed-out (not modifiable) in VMware.
[14:06] <marco-parillo> I will install open-vm-tools-desktop and ugrade my packages.
[14:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ping
[14:09] <shadeslayer> Riddell: doesn't https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/frameworks/ktexteditor.git/tree/debian/patches/kubuntu_workaround-katehighlightingindexer-arm.diff?h=kubuntu_unstable need to only kick in during PPA builds
[14:09] <shadeslayer> becuase it feels like it'll kick in during regular archive builds too
[14:10] <shadeslayer> :O
[14:10] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ideally yes, do you have any way to achieve that?
[14:11] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I think so, the binary mangler doesn't run for PPA's
[14:11] <shadeslayer> so I'm sure there's a way
[14:11] <shadeslayer> as well as pkg-kde-tools doesn't do the po stuffing in PPA's
[14:11] <shadeslayer> so needs looking into how they achieve that
[14:11] <shadeslayer> oh
[14:11] <shadeslayer> hm
[14:12] <yofel> santa_: yes, that's what I meant, thanks! We can then extend that as needed.
[14:12] <shadeslayer> Riddell: looking into it
[14:14] <marco-parillo> Well that was funny.   I don't know how to test.
[14:31] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: have a look at debian/control in the packaging see if it build-depends on kf5 bits
[14:48] <lordievader> While upgrading 15.04 to 15.10 I ran into a problem with nfs-common about python3.4 being deleted. Should I report this on launchpad.
[14:50] <lordievader> ?
[14:50] <Riddell> lordievader: sure
[14:51] <lordievader> Hmm, running apt-get dist-upgrade again fixed it.... Should I still report it?
[14:52] <sitter> Riddell: we need to do some upgrader pitchy patchy tomorrow
[14:52] <sitter> in fact
[14:52] <sitter> SRU
[14:52] <sitter> because the fetcher actually is the broken bit and that is installed
[14:53] <sitter> uses self._warning were it should use _warning causing exception and the upgrader not to come up at all. although i feel like I fixed that at some point in the past Oo
[14:53] <Riddell> hum really? I'm sure I fixed it too no
[14:53] <sitter> and I figured out why I hade 403 thrown on the releaseannouncement... archive.ubuntu throws 403 if you try to access the html version via urllib
[14:54] <sitter> so we need to change the thing back to use the txt version instead
[14:54] <sitter> which is a bit of a visual loss but the entire upgrader looks like shit anyway
[14:55] <Riddell> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/1:<IP_ADDRESS> I fixed bug 1488843
[14:55] <sitter> Riddell: twas still broken for me for some reason
[14:56] <sitter> ah yes
[14:56] <Riddell> fooey, I'll test it when I can
[14:56] <sitter> Riddell: that's another bug supposedly
[14:57] <sitter> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/1:15.10.4 the warning change here needs a SRU
[14:57] <Riddell> sitter: I worked out why everyone was complaining about kmix still being around, plasma-pa install the kconf update script for kf5 but kmix is kdelibs4
[14:58] <sitter> and this url change http://paste.ubuntu.com/12861695/ to make the notes actually work
[14:58] <sitter> Riddell: yeah, I just got annoyed by that today. good stuff
[14:58] <Riddell> self.new_dist.self.new_dist that makes no sense
[14:59] <sitter> ah wait
[14:59] <sitter> yeah
[14:59] <sitter> Riddell: - the dup :P
[14:59] <sitter> anyway
[14:59] <sitter> I am off
[14:59] <Riddell> have fun
[14:59] <sitter> because my brain is fried
[14:59] <sitter> o/
[15:00] <lordievader> After a reboot I can conclude the upgrade was successfull.
[15:53] <genii> The Snappy folk are doing a broadcast in a few minutes if anyone is interested... http://ubuntuonair.com/
[16:26] <genii> ( they are accepting questions about the broadcast in their channel #snappy and not in the usual #ubuntu-classroom/#ubuntu-classroom-chat channels)
[18:26] <mhall119> hi everyone, I was reading Martin's blog post http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2015/10/some-thoughts-on-the-quality-of-plasma-5/ and wondering if we are guilty of any of the problems he pointed out
[18:28] <mhall119> he mentioned that there's an extra repo (PPA maybe?) that has more up to date Plasma 5 packages, do we have instructions somewhere about where that is and how to use it?
[18:30] <yofel> tjaalton took care of the intel crash at least
[18:32] <mhall119> yofel: is that in the main archives for 15.10?
[18:32] <mhall119> or a PPA
[18:32] <yofel> yes, was part of the first mesa 11 upload
[18:33] <mhall119> ok
[18:33] <mhall119> how about for 15.04?
[18:36] <yofel> AFAIK it doesn't apply there, at least we got no reports for that
[18:37] <yofel> when it comes to the PPA, it is indeed recommended to use the kubuntu backports PPA. Vanilla vivid isn't that great
[18:37] <mhall119> yofel: are there instructions for enabling that, or is it just an add-apt-repository line?
[18:38] <yofel> we usually tell people how to enable it everytime we post update news on kubuntu.org, and yes, it's just add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[18:39] <mhall119> thanks yofel
[18:40] <yofel> but yeah, to actually "solve" the problems martin points out we would need a blank MRE (or rather major release update exception) for around 400 packages
[18:41] <mhall119> I think having the PPA is solution enough, it effectively does the same thing, right?
[18:42] <mamarley> Kubuntu does have a problem with multi-display related crashes (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/1492778).  As I just posted in the bug report, this would get a lot worse with Qt 5.5 for users with multiple DisplayPort monitors, causing a crash back to sddm whenever the user wakes the displays from sleep.
[18:42] <yofel> yes, except for the people that don't know what a PPA is. OTOH, I'm not convinced that the migrations are tested enough for that user base
[18:50] <marco-parillo> Here is an example of Kubuntu News (from the Kubuntu.Org site that flows to both planets) that shows backports PPA to Vivid: http://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-532-and-frameworks-5120-backported-kubuntu-1504/
[18:51] <marco-parillo> That said, I have been preferring Wily to Vivid ever since Alpha 1.
[18:51] <mhall119> thanks marco-parillo
[18:51] <mhall119> marco-parillo: yeah, and after this week there's no reason to not recommend wily
[18:52] <marco-parillo> No official reason. I have been recommending it unofficially since Beta-2 ;-)
[18:52] <mhall119> ahoneybun: ping (about DVDs)
[19:10] <mamarley> It actually looks like https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/138201/ will fix the resume-from-DPMS crashing that was caused by Qt 5.5
[19:16] <clivejo> yofel: ping
[19:16] <yofel> hm?
[19:16] <clivejo> anyone working on calligra?
[19:17] <yofel> not that I know of
[19:21] <clivejo> Ive grabbed git.debian.org/git/pkg-kde/kde-std/calligra.git, but when I do a dch -i its not updating the version number, do you know why?
[19:23] <yofel> because the last changelog is UNRELEASED
[19:23] <yofel> dch will only edit that one
[19:24] <yofel> but -i should still have increased the version number (which is usually not what you want)
[19:24] <yofel> hm...
[19:26] <yofel> for some reason, kubuntu_wily_archive is not kubuntu
[19:26] <clivejo> seems to be debian
[19:28] <clivejo> Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:29] <clivejo> or is the packaging still on bazaar?
[19:35] <yofel> looks like somebody tried to move it and didn't finish the job
[19:36] <clivejo> could have been me
[19:51] <[Akeno]> Hi everyone! In my attempt to re-install Kubuntu 14.04.3 on my ASUS R515M I encountered this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1271304
[19:51] <[Akeno]> Is there any way to disable/stop ubiquity from re-installing the packages?
[19:51] <[Akeno]> So that I can re-install them manually?
[19:55] <[Akeno]> Anyone?
[20:11] <clivejo> \a+666/////8/777777
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[20:13] <[Akeno]> Guess someone fell asleep on his keyboard lol
[20:18] <valorie> yowz
[20:35] <valorie> [Akeno]: I don't see any replies to that bug, which was reported by Riddell
[20:36] <valorie> I assume a work-around would have been posted if one was known
[20:45] <ahoneybun> mhall119: what about them?
[20:51] <[Akeno]> valorie: Yeah, with new install (different partition) I also encountered this message:
[20:51] <[Akeno]> Installation failed: The installer encountered an error copying files to the hard disk: [Errno 30] Read-only file system: '/target/usr/share/doc/libautodie-perl'. This is often due to a faulty hard disk. It may help to check whether the hard disk is old and in need of replacement, or move the system to a cooler environment.
[20:51] <mhall119> ahoneybun: are you going to want 32bit or 64bit? IIRC, we only do 64bit for Ubuntu desktop anymore
[20:52] <[Akeno]> Laptop is around 1 year old by now
[20:52] <mhall119> whichever you pick, it should say in the CD or sleeve what it is
[20:52] <ahoneybun> 64 would be best I think
[20:53] <[Akeno]> Gonna attempt to install on that partition again
[20:53] <mhall119> ahoneybun: ok, and if I remember correctly we were going to do 500 of the 4/4 DVD 5 from https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HnooSpzP9p9cvql8GEQe7J-A1rNLq8qpRs_cH_gaZIk/edit#gid=0 is that correct?
[20:53] <ahoneybun> is it going to be 15.10?
[20:54] <mhall119> ahoneybun: yeah
[20:54] <mhall119> we would do more for 16.04
[20:55] <ahoneybun> yay 15.10!
[20:55] <ahoneybun> mhall119: I need the wily werewolf logo
[20:56] <mhall119> for the DVD?
[20:58] <ahoneybun> yea
[20:59] <mhall119> ok, I'll see who can get you that
[20:59] <ahoneybun> for the inside I think would be cool
[21:01] <mhall119> yeah, I'd forgotten about that, asking the design team now
[21:02] <ahoneybun> cool
[21:39] <mhall119> ahoneybun: can you go ahead and file a community donations request for the amount in cell K4? We can work on getting the money approved and allocated while we finish getting the artwork together for the printer
[21:41]  * ahoneybun finally bookmarks the page
[21:43] <ahoneybun> filled out mhall119
[21:45] <mhall119> thanks
[22:43] <pursuivant> muon (redesign) v5.4.1-104-g49d6d83 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/CategoryDelegate.qml
[22:43] <pursuivant> Align categories grid
[22:43] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/49d6d8388b1411b28f00b79cca13f4d0762fa964
[23:01] <pursuivant> muon (redesign) v5.4.1-105-gdd4367b * Aleix Pol: discover/qml (3 files)
[23:01] <pursuivant> Better adapt the carroussel animation to the vdg demands
[23:01] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/dd4367b3dda722b9e50a8d329b1b4e84dfdb771d


[23:09] <cjohnston> stas:
[23:09] <cjohnston> are you stas on LP?
[23:11] <nhandler> cjohnston: https://launchpad.net/~sushkov
[23:11] <cjohnston> ty
[23:16] <cjohnston> AlanBell:
[23:16] <cjohnston> AlanBell: ping
[23:18] <cjohnston> stas: when you come around, I have some questions for you please
[23:19] <AlanBell> o/
[23:19] <cjohnston> newz2000: seems bug 369469 is still an issue.. dont know what you can do about it
[23:19] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 369469 in ubuntu (and 1 other project) "Doesn't let me change language (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/369469
[23:19] <cjohnston> AlanBell: I need some info about the light-a11y-theme... what is it.. whats it for.. wheres it used... etc
[23:19] <cjohnston> please
[23:20] <newz2000> cjohnston: noted, thanks
[23:21] <cjohnston> np
[23:25] <AlanBell> sorry cjohnston I have no clue
[23:25] <AlanBell> doesn't seem to be much in it
[23:26] <AlanBell> looks like an mhall119 question
[23:28] <cjohnston> oh mhall119 ;-)
[23:30] <mhall119> who what?
[23:33] <mhall119> oh, light-ally-theme was supposed to be where we made an accessible alternative to light-base-theme, but nothing's been done with it
[23:34] <mhall119> I'm hoping to get some of the design team and some of the accessibility team together at UDS-O to come up with some guidelines and an implementation
[23:48] <cjohnston> newz2000: you should be happy to know that ubuntu-website is down to 6 new bugs and 24 open bugs
[23:51] <stas> cjohnston: in about half an hour are you still here/
[23:51] <stas> ?
[23:51] <cjohnston> ill try stas thanks
[23:53] <stas> nvm, im here cjohnston :)
[23:53]  * stas game just ended
[23:53] <cjohnston> gotcha
[23:54] <cjohnston> Got a couple of bugs that I need some clarification with
[23:54] <stas> ok
[23:54] <cjohnston> ive commented on them i believe
[23:54] <cjohnston> the arrow bug is one
[23:55] <stas> yep... if you add style="width: 100% !important;" to class="slider" that should fix it
[23:56] <cjohnston> I hate trying to deal with lp
[23:58] <stas> cjohnston: did you find who has acces to the website or you think we should better make a branch for uds.u.c
[23:58] <cjohnston> im still kinda debating that one
[23:58] <cjohnston> i think we may make a branch


[08:56] <brainwash> bluesabre: now with xfwm 4.13 available in 19.10 we can close bug 1294600
[09:50] <bluesabre> brainwash: that's exciting :D
[11:48] <ochosi> brainwash: hopefully :)


[11:18] <ahayzen> t1mp, o/ any idea what might be causing this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+bug/1597843 ... the bug reporter says that the pull to refresh is translated in the UITK, but not when using the weather-app? we have 1.3 imports .. the only other thing i can think is the translations were done after ota11 or something?
[11:20] <t1mp> "Pull to refresh..." was in the .pot file for UITK in november 2015 (maybe also before that)
[11:21] <t1mp> ahayzen: so in the weather app you don't have that string? It is all UITK?
[11:21] <ahayzen> t1mp, yeah we don't http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-weather-dev/ubuntu-weather-app/reboot/view/head:/app/ui/LocationPane.qml#L131
[11:21] <t1mp> we have a Label with         text: releaseToRefresh ? i18n.tr("Release to refresh...") : i18n.tr("Pull to refresh...")
[11:22] <ahayzen> it is here bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk/view/head:/src/Ubuntu/Components/Themes/Ambiance/1.3/PullToRefreshStyle.qml#L28
[11:22] <t1mp> I don't see issues with the code, so I don't know why it does not work
[11:22] <ahayzen> t1mp, the only thing i can think is if the simplified chinese translation was not made until recently?
[11:22] <ahayzen> otherwise, i not sure why it shouldn't be translated
[11:24] <t1mp> end of 2015 it seems (from bzr qblame zh_CN.po)
[11:24] <ahayzen> hmm
[11:24] <ahayzen> weird
[11:24] <t1mp> yes, strange
[11:24] <t1mp> kalikiana: ^do you have any ideas why Pull to refresh... is not translated in weather app?
[11:26] <t1mp> ahayzen: does the weather app use the default theme (Ambiance)?
[11:26] <ahayzen> hmm
[11:26] <t1mp> actually, the other themes don't have a special PullToRefreshStyle, so it fallsback to that one anyway
[11:26] <ahayzen> t1mp, i don't think it specifies one
[11:27] <ahayzen> i should see if this is reproducible on my device as well, and maybe ask the reporter if they see the same in other apps or not
[11:29] <t1mp> right
[11:29] <ahayzen> t1mp, thanks for confirming that it 'should' work :-)
[11:29] <t1mp> np.
[11:30] <t1mp> but I use my phone in English so I didn't test the translations a lot
[11:30] <ahayzen> yeah same
[14:11] <ahoneybun> ahayzen: around?
[14:12] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, busy at the moment, but maybe later ;-)
[14:12] <ahoneybun> just wanted to you to see a png
[14:12] <ahoneybun> https://github.com/ahoneybun/uCycle/blob/master/uCycle/uCycle.png
[16:20] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, o/ that image looks cool, should work with rounded corners as well :-) only thing is maybe the bike could be a bit bigger to emphasize that it is a cycling app
[17:00] <ahoneybun> yea that is the problem lol
[17:00] <ahoneybun> it does look nice on the device
[17:05] <ahoneybun> ahayzen: https://www.flickr.com/photos/44748317@N08/27740788770/in/dateposted-public/
[17:08] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, hehe yeah does look cool :-)
[17:11] <ahoneybun> thanks :)
[17:11] <ahoneybun> all in GIMP
[17:11] <ahoneybun> also ahayzen https://www.flickr.com/photos/44748317@N08/27918818862/in/dateposted-public/
[17:11] <ahayzen> hehe, ahoneybun have you tried inkscape before as well?
[17:12] <ahayzen> and yeah that sortof thing would be cool, i wonder if mhall119 found out if there is enough space on the device/image ?
[17:13] <ahoneybun> I have not heard from him
[17:13] <ahoneybun> he's posting on G+ about his internet being out
[17:13] <ahoneybun> so he is using his N4 as his computer
[17:13] <ahayzen> ah lol
[17:13] <ahoneybun> ahayzen: I have messed with it a bit
[17:14] <ahoneybun> made a example of DVD cover for Kubuntu 15.04
[17:14] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, inkscape allows for vector based drawings, so they don't pixelate when you zoom in... aka svg's
[17:15] <ahoneybun> yea
[17:15] <ahoneybun> just so used to GIMP I guess
[17:16] <ahoneybun> this motorcycle is going very well I think'
[17:18] <ahayzen> hehe GIMP is cool though :-)
[17:19] <mhall119> ahayzen: so there is very little space left in the device images, we could maybe add a few extra images, but not many
[17:20] <mhall119> it was suggested that we could instead provide a click package with more images, and use content-hub to set them to the background
[17:20] <ahayzen> mhall119, ok ... hmm what do you think of the other idea of like supplying them in a click package
[17:20] <ahayzen> yah :-)
[17:20] <mhall119> it's easier to do, but not as nice of a user experience
[17:20] <ahayzen> yeah
[17:21] <mhall119> and as ahoneybun said, I'm working from my phone today, no internet at home
[17:21] <mhall119> in fact, I had to start up irssi on a remote server just to get back on IRC
[17:22] <ahayzen> hah
[17:22] <ahayzen> mhall119, did you try chatter from the store?
[17:23] <ahayzen> ah but you probably hit OOM and then it'll disconnect
[17:23] <mhall119> ahayzen: I tried it, but it would't connect to freenode
[17:23] <ahayzen> ah weird
[17:23] <mhall119> my 3g data connection isn't great
[17:24] <mhall119> I suspect that, combined with dekko, telegram and others competing for bandwidth, was the problem
[17:28] <ahoneybun> ahayzen: https://www.flickr.com/photos/44748317@N08/27741105920/in/dateposted-public/
[17:28] <ahoneybun> :)
[17:28] <ahoneybun> also mhall119 too XD
[17:29] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, yeah that looks better!
[17:29] <ahoneybun> awesome
[17:29] <ahoneybun> might need the bike black to stick out better
[17:29] <ahoneybun> maybe
[17:39] <ahoneybun> ahayzen: I was testing the idea of using the bottom edge to bring up settings
[17:39] <ahoneybun> but it does not show up on the SDK but on the device
[17:40] <ahoneybun> I LOVE this icon


 @Anarcho Taoist, Not yet. Upgrades have not been turned on by ubuntu. You can force one.
 There is also a new distro-release-notifier which will give a system try notification and button to upgrade. I will upload that to the backports ppa once upgrades are enabled by default.
 friends,my wi fi adapter is not showing in my computer,after installing kubuntu.At the same time bluetooth adapter is working fine.what to do to fix this problem???? pls help me....
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 THe situation is shown above.....!!!!!👆👆👆👆👆👆
[11:44] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:30] <Beaky42> Hello all.


[03:33] <jjesse> quick question i created a vm of ubuntu server and when i boot into linux and run the vm i get an ip address, but when i boot into windows and start up the vm i can't get an ip address
[03:33] <jjesse> any thoughts?
[03:36] <leonel> firewall ?
[03:36] <jjesse> leonel: i have vmware nat'd and can't get a dhcp ip address from my vmware
[03:37] <leonel> you boot windows  ,  start  vmware and boot  ubuntu  within the vmware ?
[03:37] <jjesse> yes
[03:37] <leonel> and can't get an  ip for ubuntu runing in vmware ?
[03:37] <jjesse> correct, but it works fine in linux
[03:38] <jjesse> when i boot into linux, start vmware, start ubuntu server, i get an ip address
[03:39] <leonel> do you have a  dhcp server in windows ?
[03:39] <jjesse> vmware should be funcationg as the dhcp server
[03:40] <leonel> should be ... but  Is IT ?
[03:42] <jjesse> leonel: my other vm's are functioning correctly
[03:42] <leonel> just to check
[03:42] <leonel> assing an ipaddress manually to your eth0 to test
[03:43] <jjesse> both debian and kubuntu work fine in my vmware
[03:47] <jjesse> ok getting eth0 errror no such device error while getting interface flags: no such device
[04:03] <jjesse> figured it out http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?threadID=46069&tstart=0
[04:28] <dthacker> Hi, is there a way to just rerun the network setup portion of ubuntu server?
[05:14] <nealmcb> dthacker: I think # sudo invoke-rc networking    might do what you want
[05:14] <nealmcb> dthacker: or are you talking about installation?
[05:49] <jetole> hey guys, I know this is the wrong room to ask in, and I do run ubuntu servers but this applies to my desktop here and is probably the same answer for either one and long story short, #ubuntu is crowded with people who havn't answered and... I am babbling, I am just gonna ask, I am trying to un install vmware-player, both the install and uninstall scripts are generating return code 1 / errors which is pissing apt-get off and not
[05:49] <jetole> allowing me to install / uninstall any other software because it reverts to vmware-player each time first, can someone please tell me how I can forcibly remove vmware-player when this happens?
[05:50] <jetole> or any software when a script error occurs for the software itself?
[05:59] <Pumpernickel> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vmware-player/+bug/57957
[11:22] <zero-9376> hi all, im looking for a solution similar to ispconfig for a friend of mine, i need to have multiple separate websites accessible either by their own name or subdomain of the primary site, each of these will have their own CMS system, this is ALL they want, they specifically dont want to deal with email, also if possible they would prefer not to have to deal with dns. Is there a better option than ispconfig?
[11:23] <zero-9376> #join ISPconfig
[11:23] <zero-9376> damn
[11:23] <zero-9376> doesnt exist anyway
[11:28] <[miles] > zero-9376: im also just about to look at ISPconfig
[11:29] <zero-9376> [miles] : im searching through the forum trying to find out if you can install the required services but not allow individual sites to use them, im talking mostly about email here
[11:29] <[miles] > dns is easy to edit
[11:29] <[miles] > by hand
[11:31] <zero-9376> well i would assume it would be easy enough using the ispconfig tool, im new to server stuff, ive only done it at home where i can use ip, but do you need to be running a DNS server yourself? i would have thought that the hosting company would do it
[11:32] <zero-9376> i just wasnt sure because of the issues with having both an independant domain and a sub-domain which point to the same site
[11:32] <zero-9376> also the three levels of ispconfig seem exessive for what he wants to do
[11:33] <zero-9376> one admin -> multiple CMS
[11:35] <zero-9376> i think i will just have to read as much as i can and see if there are instance where people have done this sort of thing
[12:06] <AlexC_> Hey there guys,
[12:07] <AlexC_> I've had LAMP setup on my Ubuntu box for a while now, however - what's been really annoying me is a project I am working on uses a remote MySQL database, and (I think) this is the cause as to why my pages when working on this project are slow,
[12:07] <AlexC_> why is this? I've tried opening the port 3306 on my router, but that made no difference
[12:19] <[miles] > AlexC_: the db is local to the sites?
[12:19] <AlexC_> [miles] : no, I'm working on a project all locally (all files are here) except the database it connects to is on a remove server,
[12:20] <AlexC_> and when checking through my logs that my project makes, it takes a very long time to do any MySQL things - however, when on the same server as the MySQL database, it runs fine
[12:20] <[miles] > is there a firewall infront of the mysqld
[12:21] <AlexC_> I've honestly no idea, it's on a shared host (Dreamhost)
[12:21] <AlexC_> btw, never host with them!
[12:21] <[miles] > dont need to ... work for a hosting co :)
[12:22] <[miles] > you want some decent dedicated hosting ?
[12:22] <AlexC_> I sure do,
[12:22] <[miles] > jeje
[12:22] <[miles] > www.entorno.es
[12:22] <[miles] > which country u in?
[12:22] <AlexC_> UK, =(
[12:22] <[miles] > no problems
[12:22] <AlexC_> can't read Spanish =D
[12:22] <[miles] > we have multi nationals
[12:22] <[miles] > you cant read the button that says "English"?
[12:22] <[miles] > wow
[12:23] <[miles] > :P
[12:23] <AlexC_> haha, woops - didn't see that
[12:23] <[miles] > top right of the page
[12:23] <[miles] > ;)
[12:23] <[miles] > you understand Scouse?
[12:24] <[miles] > I must translate the site to it
[12:24] <AlexC_> no idea what it is,
[12:25] <[miles] > Scouse
[12:25] <[miles] > language of liverpool
[12:25] <[miles] > :)
[12:25] <[miles] > I'm from Liverpool, but live and work here in Barcelona
[12:25] <AlexC_> nice! That's what I thought you meant, but didn't make sense to translate it to English and Scouse, so I thought it was something else lol
[12:25] <[miles] > jeje
[12:26] <[miles] > the company is about to lanch a range of Ubuntu Server pre-installed packages
[12:26] <[miles] > dedicated on brand new Dell's
[12:26] <[miles] > im litterly just configuring one now
[12:27] <[miles] > their damn fast too
[12:27] <[miles] > nice Xeon's
[12:31] <AlexC_> is this shared or dedicated?
[12:36] <bje> [miles] : what OS does your shared hosting platform run?
[12:38] <[miles] > sorry back now
[12:38] <[miles] > the panel based ones bje?
[12:38] <[miles] > AlexC_: the new dell's with Ubuntu Server will be dedicated
[12:39] <AlexC_> what would the prices be like, and would there be any management?
[12:39] <[miles] > AlexC_: I'd have to put you in touch with the commerical dept.
[12:39] <AlexC_> basically I'm after hosting that gives me full root access to do what ever I want, but also with a bit of management for the bits I can't do (that I don't understand)
[12:40] <[miles] > AlexC_: iirc, I *think* about 1100euro per mes
[12:40] <AlexC_> per mes? month?
[12:40] <[miles] > AlexC_: sorry yes
[12:40] <[miles] > :-|
[12:40] <[miles] > erm
[12:40] <[miles] > jesus
[12:40] <[miles] > 110euros
[12:40] <[miles] > not 1100
[12:40] <AlexC_> that's better =D
[12:40] <[miles] > but don't quote me on that
[12:41] <[miles] > but the boxes are sweet
[12:41] <[miles] > Dell Power Edge 860
[12:41] <[miles] > http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/pedge_860?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd
[12:43] <[miles] > 3050, 2.13GHz, 1066MHz front side bus, 2MB cache with 2gb of ram
[12:43] <AlexC_> nice :P
[12:43] <shawarma> [miles] : Why Xeon rather than Core 2 Duo or something?
[12:44] <[miles] > all our servers are Xeon's
[12:44] <[miles] > I do not handle the purchases
[12:44] <shawarma> Ok.
[12:44] <shawarma> Just wondering.
[12:47] <lcdd> afaik the new xeon branded processors are based on core2 arch
[12:47] <[miles] > I would imagine its the other way around
[12:50] <shawarma> I would seriously imagine not.
[12:51] <shawarma> Um... That's rather ambiguous.
[12:51] <shawarma> I'm quite sure Core 2 Duo's will never be based on the current Xeon design.
[12:52] <directhex|work> current xeons are based on core2
[12:53] <shawarma> directhex|work: That makes much more sense to me. :)
[12:54] <directhex|work> xeon 3000-series chips are basically rebadged core2
[12:54] <directhex|work> right down to using socket 755, like the desktop chips
[12:56] <directhex|work> the xeon 3050 mentioned by [miles]  is a rebadged core2 6400
[01:20] <[miles] > anyone know of 64bit binaries for Zimbra?
[06:22] <genii> info freeradius
[06:23] <genii> !freeradius dapper
[08:26] <J_P> hi all
[08:26] <J_P> how I do for put one dir of the binaries to path on linux ? What file I add for have in path ?
[08:34] <mralphabet> J_P: /etc/profile I believe
[08:35] <mralphabet> J_P: that's not it, sec
[08:37] <J_P> ok
[08:37] <mralphabet> J_P: login.defs:ENV_SUPATH   PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11
[08:38] <mralphabet> login.defs:ENV_PATH     PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[08:38] <mralphabet> ./etc/login.defs
[08:39] <J_P> ok
[08:39] <mralphabet> found that with cd /etc/ ; grep -i path *
[08:39] <J_P> ENV_SUPATH      PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11
[08:39] <J_P> ENV_PATH        PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[08:40] <J_P> mralphabet: have two..
[08:40] <J_P> I need put in both ?
[08:40] <mralphabet> ENV_SUPATH is superuser path, ie root
[08:40] <mralphabet> ENV_PATH is user path, ie users
[08:40] <mralphabet> ENV_PATH is user path, ie non root
[08:41] <J_P> mralphabet: so, if I would like for ALL users (inluding root) I need put in both right ?
[08:42] <mralphabet> yes
[08:43] <mralphabet> then logout / log in
[08:44] <J_P> mralphabet: very thanks!
[08:49] <J_P> for me execute one command in /etc/rc.local as other user (non root) is correct this : "su <user> -c <command>" ?
[08:50] <J_P> I did that, but yet executing as root
[09:02] <Nicke_> J_P: Have you tested to place the username last in the command?
[09:02] <Nicke_> su --help
[09:02] <Nicke_> Usage: su [options]  [LOGIN]
[09:04] <J_P> Nicke_: I think you are write :-)
[09:04] <J_P> testing...
[09:07] <Nicke_> ok : )
[09:20] <J_P> Nicke_: that -c option  si after user
[09:20] <J_P> # su -c oracle test
[09:20] <J_P> Unknown id: test
[09:21] <J_P> # su oracle -c test works, but execute as root
[09:22] <mralphabet> su -c test oracle
[09:24] <J_P> mralphabet: su -c /opt/Compiere2/utils/RUN_Server2.sh > /opt/Compiere2/jboss/log/log.out oracle
[09:24] <J_P> mralphabet: that log are wrinting as root
[09:24] <J_P> so are executing as root
[09:24] <mralphabet> su -c "/opt/Compiere2/utils/RUN_Server2.sh > /opt/Compiere2/jboss/log/log.out" oracle
[09:26] <J_P> mralphabet: ahh yes :-) needs "command" ins " :-)
[09:27] <J_P> mralphabet: ENV_SUPATH      PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/lib/oracle/xe/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/server/bin
[09:27] <J_P> ENV_PATH        PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/usr/lib/oracle/xe/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/server/bin
[09:28] <J_P> I logout and login.. but thats binaries in /usr/lib/oracle/xe/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/server/bin aren't in path to execute..
[09:28] <J_P> I need yet put entire path...
[09:30] <J_P> comand "env" and "set" yet show PATH= without the last that I put...
[09:32] <J_P> I will try reboot machine
[09:39] <dthacker-lt> Hi, I'm having some problems setting up DNS.  The details are here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=485782 If someone familiar with DNS is able to take a look, I'd be grateful.
[09:57] <coNP> dthacker-lt: seems righty right at first sight
[09:57] <coNP> maybe insert an line break at the end of the fiel
[09:57] <coNP> file
[10:11] <dthacker-lt> coNP: sure, I'll give that a shot.  Thanks for looking
[10:11] <coNP> yw, no other ideas, though
[10:47] <Rhyolite> Hi.  Should I use Server CD or Alternate CD to install on server and configure for software RAID?
[10:48] <mralphabet> server cd does soft raid fine
[10:51] <Rhyolite> okay, thanks
[11:22] <r00tintheb0x> Anyone configured a Samba/Active Directory authentication server w/Ubuntu?


[01:27] <peterlyberth> Ive installed edubuntu in wmvar, along with a thin client. The client get the kernel, shows the splash. Then nothing.
[01:27] <peterlyberth> How do i diable the splahs
[01:27] <peterlyberth> splash:-)
[01:29] <peterlyberth> Ive googled and googled, but i just cant find any solution
[01:30] <LaserJock> hmm, I really don't know how to do that on the client
[01:31] <peterlyberth> No thats my problem too. Theres no grub to edit:-)
[04:56] <peterlyberth> Ive solved the problem with the thin client booting in vmware!
[04:57] <peterlyberth> I had to change one af the nics in the server and the nic in the client, to a virtual network! My router gave the client wrong addresses
[04:57] <peterlyberth> Its booting like a charm now.
[04:58] <peterlyberth> Ive got a slight problem though. By default the clients dont have danish kayboard layout
[04:59] <peterlyberth> The wierd thing is, that i changed the lts.conf file so that it should use DK layout. I have the login from the client and change it there.
[04:59] <peterlyberth> Any idea why?
[04:59] <peterlyberth> Damn im flooding sry
[05:06] <peterlyberth> any idea?
[10:43] <mathesis> hi
[10:43] <mathesis> speak spanish?
[11:12] <gnomefreak> mathesis: #edubuntu-es? or #ubuntu-es
[11:25] <n2diy> ! es
[11:25] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:27] <humbolto> how can I restrict all users from putting my xserver to sleep or hibernate it?!
[11:27] <humbolto> jguifhre
[11:27] <humbolto> gga
[11:28] <humbolto> ah, it comes through
[12:09] <humbolto> I have a big big problem!
[12:09] <humbolto> hibernate and suspend show up in the gnome logout window even on remote sessions!!!!
[12:09] <humbolto> this has to disappear somehow. how can I achieve that?
[12:10] <humbolto> I don't want my students to turn off the server!


[15:02] <theShirbiny> philipballew, o/
[15:02] <philipballew> theShirbiny, hey!
[15:02] <philipballew> whats up???
[15:04] <theShirbiny> I saw your text from the last time. nothing here, you?


[05:47] <ubptgbot> Dale Ang was added by: Dale Ang
[06:16] <ubptgbot> <Burghard Britzke> has anybody UBports latest version working on a OnePlus One device? My device reboots when releasing the USB connection to my computer, hanging at the 1+ logo. When connected via USB it seems to work. Any hints?
 @neothethird, sorry, it took a while. Wanted to get another change in. Building rn, packages will appear here within the next 15 minutes: https://github.com/ubports/ubports-installer/releases/tag/0.1.12-beta
 @Burghard Britzke, that's odd. Is the device charged? Does it work on a wall charger?
 @Dale Ang, Hi Dale, check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started
[09:15] <ubptgbot> slothnatic was added by: slothnatic
 @Burghard Britzke, Welcome & Install is a good place to discuss problems like this
 Hello Peter. Check here for lots of info about UBports … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 @Burghard Britzke, If you make a username in Telegram you can be invited to groups and be pinged
 hey, i have been following ubports for quite sometime already but decided to join telegram to not miss any things :)
 @slothnatic, There is a News channel too. That gives a few announcements each week
 @ubports_news
 @slothnatic, So have you got a device running Ubuntu Touch?
 nope unfortunately not :/
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/1nlf7SuZ.webp
 @slothnatic, Oh, horror 😱
 @milkor73, The UBports bot is so cute
 Yumi
 it's lovely for sure
 Does anyone know what /ping@ubports_bot should do?
 @AmolithSeregion, nothing
 @AmolithSeregion, Yes, it is a very simpatic guy
 @alan_griffiths, Then why does it exist? 😂
 @AmolithSeregion, The syntax is /<command>, if <command> is nonsense it does nothing
 Guys is there any way to use whatsapp nowadays on ubports? I heard that there was a third party client who was being shut down a while ago
 @Zetarancio, You can use the webapp that someone created
 If it's not in the OpenStore, you can make your own with the WebApp Creator
 you have to keep an android/ios device logged in to use whatsapp web though
 Oh ok
 Yeah. I was saying the same.
 @Zetarancio, basically, no, not yet. on some devices (pro 5, m10 tablet), you can set up anbox on 16.04 devel build, and theoretically install whatsapp in anbox and use it there
 @Zetarancio, There is LoquiM. Last time I tried a couple of months ago, it let's you register your phone, but it does not work for sending / receiving messages, I think it only works for groups
 but it's not exactly easy to do
 @dohbee, Is there a write up anywhere for how to install an app in anbox on UT?
 afaik you have to use adb on the device as a client to install an apk in anbox
 i guess the anbox setup instructions say how to install an app
 but beyond that, no i don't know of anything
 Unfortunately i will have to wait for more people to stop using whatsapp before using ubports a s daily driver.
 haha.  it's such a ..... worn-out topic.  i'm starting to become like this cynical ubuntu guy I know.  He said 'Forget 'em!  They are lost! Just move forward with Ubuntu and make it best."
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/PJaKR2zj.webp
 @dohbee, Yeah I tried that. I didn't get very far, wait... Can you install adb on the UT device?
 @padraic7a, isn't it already installed?
 Nope. Trying vadb' or 'adb devices' gives you a "Command not found" response.
 *'adb' *
 oh hmm. i guess it needs to be installed then
 @mariogrip ^^ should probably change 16.04 rootfs to include adb for use with anbox?
 @Zetarancio, They don't need to stop using Whxxxpp, they just need to add telegram or matrix to chat/speak with you (or signal or linphone in the near future).
 @libremax, Yeah, that is the long term plan!
 Snaps on UT?
 @AmolithSeregion, Maybe someday. They don't solve any of our current problems though.
 @libremax, Matrix 😍
[15:59] <ubptgbot> vladimirse was added by: vladimirse
 Welcome @vladimirse! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome for starter information!
 If someone using Archlinux then there is clickable aur package https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/clickable/ … For non-experienced users it will be helpful
 @tydell, 🤠👍
[17:46] <ubptgbot> <Ulises El> Im using loquiIM and it works for me to send messages but only text, no images or videos
[17:50] <ubptgbot> <Ulises El> sorry, how do i send answer to a specific person? im not a regular user for telegram
 @Ulises El, Depends on the client, but on the web and android you tap/click on the message you want to reply to, tap/click on "Reply" and then type your message and hit send
 iirc, telegram on ut is similar
 @dohbee, On Android you can swipe left to replay too
[17:55] <ubptgbot> <Ulises El> its ut client
[17:56] <ubptgbot> <Ulises El> @dohbee, mm
[17:56] <ubptgbot> <Ulises El> oh i got it, thanks
 @dohbee, I installed android-tools-adb and "adb devices" doesn't show anything. I guess this is a complex setup
 @padraic7a, ok, i don't know then
 can you install apk by using `adb install foo.apk` from a PC?
[18:09] <ubptgbot> Jose Sousa was added by: Jose Sousa
 Not when I tried before. If you think about it that will just pass "install foo.apk" to ubports bash.
 Do you think installing adb on UT device will change that?
 No, that is not what it will do. I assume developer mode is enabled?
[18:21] <ubptgbot> <Ulises El> @wagafo, Hi, im currently using LoquiIM, and it can send text message perfectly but not images or video. im thinking in watch the code and contribute on my april vacations, but i cannot promise nothing
 @UniversalSuperBox, Yep, will try that again now
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/z1LfNOTS.mp4
 @Ismaelbonato, yes. what is it lol
 It's me trying to do something useful on unity 8! hhahahaha
 lol
 go @Ismaelbonato !!!
 Lol!
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/QuWAKx7I.mp4
 hehe
 are you trying to do the work on the indicators that @dohbee....as usual...contradicted? LOL
 how rude
 @Javacookies, yep!
 just kidding :P
 well, that's made them slightly more accessible with mouse, and slightly less accessible without
 YEAH
 Fwd from UBports News Channel: A new version of uNav, the Free Software GPS Navigation App, for Ubuntu Touch is out! … In this new version you can expect: …  * the restoration of more navigation options. Besides automobile drivers,  unav can again be used by pedestrians, and cyclists; …  * Carto is the new default map provider;
[20:10] <ubptgbot>  …  * extensive OpenRoute Service API migration; …  * correction of the unit measures bug on the route details view; … We're now only missing the restoration of public transport naviagtion. … Once again an awesome piece of work by Marcos Costales! To which our Community is very grateful. … Go get uNav from the OpenStore! … https://open-store.io/app
[20:10] <ubptgbot> /navigator.costales … You can also enjoy an intro video, made by Marcos himself: … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_4eiBeFYxI … #UBports #OpenStore #uNav
 @dohbee @UniversalSuperBox https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rVx3sZvptC/
 that's true...but I think the idea is to detect if it was touched or clicked....either way, it'll be a problem when switching between touch and mouse
 @Gorsh2, Awwww yeeaah!!
 Hi! I installed anbox on ubports 1604. How can i install android apps? The command adb install does not work
 @Gorsh2, Joer! Costales' accent! :)
 Love it
 Though I have problems installing it
 aah now
 restarting fixed it
 openstore listed it under updates but showed 0.74 and thus no upgrade button
 [Edit] openstore listed it under updates but showed 0.74 as latest version and thus no upgrade button
 @Javacookies, You are right! :)
 @Ismaelbonato, Do it!!
 @Gorsh2, You don't need to send news feeds back here please. People can get that message on our news feed
 @wayneoutthere, I didn't know it was going to send the entire post, I thought it would only refer to it with a line or so. Now I know...
 @Ismaelbonato, Great job mate
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/0BWJ9Kqw.mp4
 @Ismaelbonato, WHats the deal here, I mean why did you do this
 ^^^ Flo questions the meaning of life
 @Flohack, https://github.com/ubports/unity8/issues/19
 @Gorsh2, I have spent many hours crying but I have decided to forgive you ;)
[21:36] <ZeroPointEnergy> my phone is now booting from a ostree root, But unity is crashing, so now the question is was that an issue I created or not :-D
 costales for president!
 Costales is doing an amazing job indeed!!!
 @ZeroPointEnergy, probably depends on what you mean by crashing
[21:46] <ZeroPointEnergy> it looks like ubuntu-location-service is crashing a few times and then unity-system-co
 unity-location-service probably needs hybris stuff to work
[21:48] <ZeroPointEnergy> everything should be there, the only difference is that instead of a read-only rootfs.img it boots from an ostree checkout
[21:48] <ZeroPointEnergy> at least I see the android stuff starting up
 where does the unity8 stack come from then?
[21:49] <ZeroPointEnergy> thats all in the ostree
 how did you build the ostree then?
[21:51] <ZeroPointEnergy> froma ubports tarball http://ci.ubports.com/job/xenial-rootfs-armhf/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/out/ubports-touch.rootfs-xenial-armhf.tar.gz
[21:52] <ZeroPointEnergy> and some additional liks and scripts needed for halium
 oh, is all of unity8 crashing, or just unity8-dash?
 (iow, scopes)
[21:53] <ZeroPointEnergy> all uf unity I think. It is starting to reboot right after that crashes
[21:53] <ZeroPointEnergy> maybe I missed something
 hmm
 yeah, i don't know
 anyway, i gotta go
 Anyone know of an OSM tile downloader for use with uNav? It seems like JTileDownloader doesn't work and neither does downloadosmtiles
 JTileDownloader works for me. i used it at january.