[04:14] <vixus> got it then Drizzt321
[04:15] <Drizzt321> vixus: its not the easiest way to do it, but you can
[04:15] <vixus> D:
[04:15] <vixus> Why?
[04:15] <Drizzt321> vixus: its kind of clunky
[04:15] <vixus> ill get easytag then
[04:15] <Drizzt321> vixus: yea, you might. I just looked at it and the interface looks a whole lot better than doing it through xmms
[04:16] <Drizzt321> Psyk[o] : anything?
[04:16] <Psyk[o] > Drizzt321, here is the log http://www.pastebin.com/241390
[04:16] <Drizzt321> k
[04:17] <gus> Any suggestions?
[04:17] <Drizzt321> Psyk[o] : do you have the correct permissions for device /dev/nvidia0?
[04:17] <_|Imanewbie|_> I love gentoo ppl-> RTFM lol lol he is a newbie get him!
[04:18] <Drizzt321> lol _|Imanewbie|_
[04:18] <Psyk[o] > Drizzt321, i dont know
[04:18] <Drizzt321> Psyk[o] : ls -l /dev/nvidia0
[04:18] <Psyk[o] > crw-rw----  1 root video 195, 0 2005-02-13 16:14 /dev/nvidia0
[04:19] <Drizzt321> Psyk[o] : ok, now as you're user, do groups, see if you are in group video
[04:19] <vixus> Hmm.
[04:19] <vixus> Now
[04:19] <_|Imanewbie|_> I know I'm beeing a pain in the a$$ but unless you say you don't know I will keep asking cause it is damm important for me. Im unable to install linux cause fdisk says that 2 of my partitions doesn't end on cilinder boundary
[04:19] <aaronc_uk> hi everyone, can anyone help me install bluetooth support
[04:19] <Psyk[o] > Drizzt321, yes, I am
[04:19] <vixus> I need to change all the songs from They Might be Giants to They Might B%e Giants.
[04:20] <parazoid> mat, thanks :)
[04:20] <Drizzt321> Psyk[o] : how about for /dev/nvidiactl?
[04:20] <Golfer> _|Imanewbie|_ have you searched google?
[04:20] <Psyk[o] > crw-rw----  1 root video 195, 255 2005-02-13 16:14 /dev/nvidiactl...
[04:20] <Drizzt321> umph
[04:21] <Drizzt321> Psyk[o] : and lspci shows it at 1:0:0?
[04:21] <vixus> Drizzt321: I thought I could batch them! :|
[04:21] <Psyk[o] > it's strange... I've installed nvidia drivers with no problems under fedora-core and suse..
[04:22] <Drizzt321> Psyk[o] : yea, I've used them under debian fine, but not with Xorg, I haven't worked with that specifically yet
[04:22] <Psyk[o] > 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  (rev a1)
[04:22] <Drizzt321> Psyk[o] : hmph. yup
[04:22] <Drizzt321> vixus: ah...you can do that retag change thing in madman. not sure what else might have it, I haven't investigated that
[04:23] <_|Imanewbie|_> Golfer sure
[04:23] <topyli> vixus: easytag, or a fancy sed command
[04:24] <Drizzt321> Psyk[o] : I have no clue. it does seem as if the nvidia X drivers(not the kernel drivers) are failing
[04:24] <Drizzt321> Psyk[o] : you looked on the wiki.x.org to see if others are having this problem?
[04:24] <_|Imanewbie|_> Golfer it says my partition table might be inconsistent but doesn't say me how to fix it up
[04:24] <Drizzt321> Psyk[o] : cause I'm out of ideas
[04:24] <Psyk[o] > Drizzt321, no, I'll take a look... btw, thanks for all! :)
[04:24] <choisy> hello
[04:25] <Drizzt321> Psyk[o] : you're welcome. good luck with it!
[04:25] <aaronc_uk> ive got bluetooth working, but i cant get gnome bluetooth deb installed##
[04:25] <Golfer> _|Imanewbie|_ seems to me that maybe where you want to be looking rather then and Ubuntu help channel
[04:25] <darksatanic> _|Imanewbie|_: Do you have anything on there that you need to keep?
[04:26] <vixus> Drizzt321, use the Scanner in easytag.
[04:26] <vixus> It worked a treat.
[04:26] <vixus> Now... how do I get Bluetooth working? (I want to use Blue Remote)
[04:26] <Drizzt321> vixus: ok :) glad to hear it
[04:26] <Drizzt321> vixus: um...I wish I had some bluetooth. if you send me it I'll figure it out for you ;)
[04:27] <vixus> XD
[04:27] <vixus> But really. bluez-utils... installed it... then what?
[04:27] <vixus> (I've got it wrong right?)
[04:27] <Drizzt321> vixus: go to google and search
[04:28] <_|Imanewbie|_> darksatanic Ive backuped everything I need
[04:29] <universal> can someone help me adding dvd to my fstab???
[04:29] <darksatanic> _|Imanewbie|_: OK. Do you have a live CD? (Ubuntu Live CD, Knoppix, something that you can boot from and get a command prompt?)
[04:29] <aaronc_uk> im trying to dpkg --install bluez-utils and im getting this
[04:29] <aaronc_uk> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of bluez-utils:
[04:29] <aaronc_uk>  bluez-utils depends on libbluetooth1 (>= 2.10); however:
[04:29] <aaronc_uk>   Version of libbluetooth1 on system is 2.7-4.
[04:29] <aaronc_uk> dpkg: error processing bluez-utils (--install):
[04:30] <topyli> urgh
[04:30] <aaronc_uk> is 2.7 not higher that 2.1
[04:30] <eKLim> hie... anyone knows how to configure USB DSL modem?
[04:30] <_|Imanewbie|_> darksatanic should I format andrepartition everything?
[04:30] <Drizzt321> aaronc_uk: its 2.10, not 2.1 it wants
[04:30] <darksatanic> Yes.
[04:30] <_|Imanewbie|_> \o/
[04:30] <aaronc_uk> ahh, not sure where to get that from
[04:31] <darksatanic> You can get rid of the partition table from a Linux command prompt with "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda count=1 bs=512"
[04:31] <darksatanic> (Assuming that the disk in question is /dev/hda)
[04:31] <_|Imanewbie|_> darksatanic will it solve the problem than? I got no linuxI got just windows now
[04:31] <Drizzt321> aaronc_uk: no clue, you search the net for libbluetooth and find out where its home is? start there
[04:31] <darksatanic> If you wipe the partition table totally, it should do, yes.
[04:31] <darksatanic> However, you *will* lose everything on the disk.
[04:31] <_|Imanewbie|_> darksatanic I will go fdisk old style :)
[04:32] <_|Imanewbie|_> I backuped university stuff just will have to keep soulseek open for somedays
[04:32] <eKLim> i got an Aztech DSL Turbo 100 USB modem, and i have some problems to configure it.
[04:32] <eKLim> anyone know how?
[04:33] <DXT> in a class method, can i possibly return 'this' by reference? 'return *this' or I'll have to return a pointer anyway?
[04:33] <universal> aaronc_uk, can u help how to set my dvd in fstab?
[04:33] <DXT> oops wrong chan
[04:33] <DXT> :)
[04:33] <SeanQ> you're only in this chan? lol
[04:34] <DXT> that belonged to the c++ chan :p
[04:34] <SeanQ> ah, got it.
[04:34] <vixus> Is there a blueremote binary for ubuntu?
[04:35] <membreya> how do you prioritise network connections? ie have my ethernet as my main connection and my wireless as a backup
[04:36] <universal> can someone help me mount dvd in fstab?
[04:36] <SeanQ> universal, hold on
[04:36] <_|Imanewbie|_> universal google
[04:36] <vixus> Bluetooth WORKS! I love ubuntu.
[04:36] <vixus> Everything on it has worked so far: Audio, DVD, bluetooth.
[04:36] <universal> ok
[04:37] <vixus> See ya.
[04:37] <membreya> universal: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[04:37] <mlambie> universal: my fstab looks like this: /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   auto    ro,user,noauto  0       0
[04:37] <vixus> universal: ubuntuguide
[04:37] <universal> ok, thx! i will see
[04:37] <membreya> mlambie: if you have a dvd burner change the ro to rw
[04:37] <mlambie> vixus: what dongle are you using? I tried with a belkin a few months back and it was horrible. never got it working.
[04:37] <SeanQ> i looked at ubuntuguide for universal, can't find it
[04:37] <SeanQ> can find how to mount it, but not fstab
[04:37] <mlambie> membreya: true, but I don't ;)
[04:38] <darksatanic> membreya: I don't think using rw will make any difference.
[04:38] <hybrid_> hello
[04:38] <membreya> darksatanic: i had problems when i first installed...but i was using warty
[04:38] <membreya> hoary rocks
[04:38] <chillywilly> yay, I fixed my CUPS ;)
[04:38] <Golfer> ro,rw makes no difference
[04:38] <darksatanic> Well, the reason is that the options there are only for mounting an existing filesystem.
[04:38] <membreya> cept I cant install nvidia drivers!
[04:39] <mlambie> actually, my dvd burner is mounted with : /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[04:39] <SeanQ> i don't think my wireless works with hoary
[04:39] <darksatanic> The writing is done through an entirely different mechanism.
[04:39] <membreya> aahh ...  I just pressed tab to try to spell a work :\
[04:40] <SeanQ> i've done that, membreya.\
[04:40] <membreya> word even!
[04:40] <SeanQ> regardless if they obseleted prism2_usb, i can still run it with ndiswrapper
[04:40] <hybrid_> SeanQ is that a usb wireless adapter?
[04:41] <SeanQ> yes
[04:41] <SeanQ> Netgear MA-111
[04:41] <membreya> hoary makes my acx1100 work out of the box :)
[04:41] <hybrid_> and you got it to work with linus? how hard was it
[04:41] <Drizzt321> lol membreya
[04:41] <hybrid_> **linux
[04:42] <membreya> problem is ..it's a netgear and it's a bad combo ...it looses connection after a few days and I have to hard restart the router
[04:42] <membreya> so I want to know how to use the eth0 as primary
[04:42] <SeanQ> well, what kind of router?
[04:42] <SeanQ> i run straight netgear..netgear adapter -- netgear router
[04:42] <SeanQ> i'm a cheapskate
[04:43] <darksatanic> membreya: Take a look at your routing table.
[04:43] <darksatanic> "route -n"
[04:43] <darksatanic> You will need to hack that up to make the eth0 your default route.
[04:43] <sig_ubuntu> morning
[04:43] <membreya> wlan0 is listed first
[04:44] <Psyk[o] > Drizzt321, something happens... i've uninstalled the nvidia official driver with --uninstall option, then I've installed the linux-restricted-modules packages... Now the X server works with nvidia drivers but the system is very sloow, the mouse pointer dissapear and glxgears run at 1-2 fps...
[04:44] <membreya> hmmm gateway says the eth0 is the gw
[04:44] <zombics> every time i try to apt-get build-dep i get this error: E: Build-Depends dependency for wine cannot be satisfied because the package libcapi20-dev cannot be found"
[04:44] <Drizzt321> Psyk[o] : hrm...not sure. I haven't used the linux-restricted-modules package at all
[04:45] <parazoid> mat, are you good at this unace-program?
[04:45] <Bandit> wonder what hoary will be like when its not unstable :)   Server Uptime 4 days, 0:42:21
[04:45] <dejavu> could use some help here ppl !
[04:45] <membreya> whats wrong dejavu
[04:46] <Psyk[o] > Drizzt321, hehe, now i try to ask the question to the channel :)
[04:46] <topyli> zombics: build the library first, if you can find a debian source
[04:46] <Psyk[o] > For all: Anyone have trouble with nvidia+xorg and system slowness ?
[04:46] <dejavu> when i open my nautilis viewer it opens folders in a new window !
[04:46] <universal> SeanQ, ok, i tried to follow the guide with my dvd-player..... but as i will play dvd in xine it still says something about EML...
[04:46] <zombics> topyli, huh? :\
[04:46] <Golfer> what do you mean system slowness
[04:46] <dejavu> i want  a folder  tobe opened in the same window !
[04:47] <SeanQ> hm, i don't know
[04:47] <universal> someone who can help?
[04:47] <casimir> dejavu: you can turn off spatial browsing in gconf
[04:47] <Golfer> universal in terminal type xine-check
[04:47] <universal> ok
[04:47] <universal> Golfer, ok
[04:47] <topyli> zombics: if you use unstable sources, some build-deps may be impossible. so you'll need to build them from unstable too. can turn into a vicious circle :)
[04:47] <Golfer> it should show you what your problems are
[04:47] <Psyk[o] > universal, you can turn on the option either in the nautilus preferences
[04:48] <dejavu> casimir: can u guide me step by step of how to do so ?
[04:48] <parazoid> Does anyone have experience with Unace
[04:48] <zombics> topyli, o :< so ther is a guide that will tell me what to do :/
[04:49] <Golfer> dejavu applications >> system tools>>configuration editor>>>apps>> nautilus>>preferences>>always use browser  change false to true
[04:50] <casimir> Golfer's got it
[04:50] <universal> Golfer, ok, its all good, but when im trying to play dvd's it says cannot find input plugin for MRL (DVD)
[04:50] <topyli> zombics: well, try apt-get build-dep libfoo (the one you need). If you can build and install it, you can then get the build-deps for the package you originally wanted, including your brand new libfoo
[04:51] <Psyk[o] > I'm sorry, but anyone thats have a nvidia card and Hoary can help me ?
[04:51] <Golfer> universal have you installed everything ubuntuguide.org suggested
[04:51] <dejavu> Golfer: roger .. lemme check !
[04:51] <universal> yes
[04:51] <casimir> I'm having some trouble with nvidia drivers causing some instability
[04:51] <zombics> topyli, i have no idea what libfoo i need
[04:52] <dejavu> Golfer: got it ... thanks dude ! :)
[04:52] <universal> Golfer, yes
[04:52] <membreya> nautilus applications:///Internet : "applications:///Internet" is not a valid location. < what the?!
[04:52] <universal> Golfer, any suggestions=
[04:52] <Golfer> dejavu yw
[04:52] <Psyk[o] > casimir, but with nvidia drivers the system performance are ok?
[04:52] <dejavu> btw ... ppl do we have a BETTER  mp3 or media Manager then xmmx ?
[04:52] <casimir> I've experienced it on other systems and usually I play with my kernel
[04:52] <MeMa|Sorcerer> re
[04:52] <topyli> zombics: libcapi20-dev, like the error message says
[04:52] <universal> Golfer, ?
[04:52] <Golfer> universal which ones did you install
[04:53] <Psyk[o] > dejavu, beep-media-player and muine :)
[04:53] <casimir> performance seems reasonable
[04:53] <Psyk[o] > casimir, I've trouble only with ubuntu... and I cant understand why :(
[04:53] <universal> Golfer, libdvdcss2, xine-gui, x32..thing.
[04:53] <topyli> zombics: but that may lead to a viscious circle of gradual upgrade to an unstable distribution :)
[04:54] <Psyk[o] > casimir, can you paste in a private message your "Load module" section in xorg.conf?
[04:54] <universal> Golfer, has it something to do with my dvd-src somehow?
[04:54] <zombics> topyli, E: Unable to find a source package for libfoo
[04:54] <casimir> Psyk[o] , I've gotten them to work with gentoo and the 2.6.9 kernel
[04:54] <kapputu> hi
[04:54] <kapputu> has anyone configured a acx111 card in Ubuntu?
[04:54] <zombics> topyli, this led to this: sudo apt-get build-dep libfoo libcapi20-dev
[04:54] <dejavu> how can i know whats the color depth or my desktop is ... i mean is my desktop on 16-bit or 8-bit or more .. and how can i change it ?
[04:54] <kapputu> why does the module-assistant not know about acx100
[04:55] <Golfer> universal did you add gstreamer0.8-plugins
[04:55] <topyli> zombics: "foo" is just the standard unix example. in reality, you need libcapi20-dev at the moment
[04:55] <Psyk[o] > casimir, me to, i've got it working on gentoo, fedora and suse...
[04:55] <MobyTurbo> dejavu, that depends on your video card
[04:55] <membreya> nautilus applications:///Internet : "applications:///Internet" is not a valid location.  what the?! why am I getting this message?
[04:55] <MobyTurbo> dejavu, I have 24 bit, from a card that's somewhat obsolete (TNT2 M64)
[04:56] <universal> Golfer, I think thats the problem!
[04:56] <universal> Golfer, 2 sek
[04:56] <Golfer> universal then try that check again
[04:56] <choisy> what does array-4 mean?
[04:57] <universal> Golfer, ok, but how to check that?
[04:57] <dejavu> MobyTurbo:  but cant i change it ? i mean if my default depth is like 8-bit .. cant i change it to 165-bit ?
[04:57] <zombics> topyli, is only available from another source
[04:57] <zombics> E: Package libtool1.4 has no installation candidate
[04:57] <zombics> E: Failed to satisfy Build-Depends dependency for libcapi20-dev: libtool1.4
[04:57] <Golfer> terminal  xine-check
[04:57] <dejavu> Psyk[o] : whats the diff betweeen xmms and beep-media-player ? :)
[04:57] <hybrid_> the name
[04:57] <Psyk[o] > dejavu, beep-media-player is based on gtk2
[04:58] <MobyTurbo> dejavu, that, again, depends upon what your video card supports. In order to change it you'll need to reconfigure X and restart it.
[04:58] <vixus> Hey, I'm trying to compile Blue Remote.
[04:58] <vixus> I need libbonobo-2.0
[04:58] <vixus> Any repositories that have it
[04:59] <topyli> zombics: i'm afraid you're going to lose this one, the packages are too new or exist only in debian unstable or something
[04:59] <dejavu> Psyk[o] : cool .. so it might be more efficient ! but i was wounderring if there is a sftware  like a mp3 juke box of something .. all in one type !
[04:59] <zombics> bhaaa :/ so i cant compile staff now? :/
[04:59] <Omega11> hi
[04:59] <Psyk[o] > dejavu, I love muine but there is also rhythmbox
[04:59] <Omega11> ubuntu linux sux
[04:59] <dejavu> MobyTurbo:  reconfigure X ... humm .. how am i supposeto do that ?
[05:00] <topyli> zombics: sure you can. just not this one :)
[05:00] <choisy> Omega11: definitly
[05:00] <zombics> topyli, it hepends in every thing i tryed (wine.xchat)
[05:00] <topyli> zombics: where did you get the source?
[05:00] <MobyTurbo> dejavu, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[05:00] <zombics> topyli, homepage
[05:00] <Omega11> yea choisy leave this channel
[05:00] <Omega11> it sux
[05:00] <vixus> Anyone?
[05:00] <Omega11> go get windows
[05:00] <vixus> libbonobo
[05:01] <hybrid_> windows roflmao
[05:01] <topyli> zombics: a debian source package?
[05:01] <usual> jdub, any idea why nautilus crashes X?
[05:01] <Omega11> windows is a defacto standard
[05:01] <zombics> topyli, no....
[05:01] <hybrid_> standars sux
[05:01] <hybrid_> **standards sukk
[05:01] <MobyTurbo> Omega11, POSIX is a standard, one that Linux adheres to. Windows isn't any sort of standard.
[05:02] <Omega11> what the hell posix do the first few letters mean peace of shit?
[05:02] <Omega11> what the hell is posix
[05:02] <topyli> zombics: don't try to build it with apt then. go old style
[05:02] <zombics> topyli, when i am trying to compile wine this is what i get"checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:02] <zombics> "
[05:02] <hybrid_> MobyTurbo posix isnt much of a standard
[05:02] <MobyTurbo> Omega11, a standard recognized by the Federal government
[05:02] <Drizzt321> MobyTurbo: actually...I don't think so
[05:03] <topyli> zombics: ah, your build environment is broken. install the build-essential package
[05:03] <Omega11> well can you explain the standard
[05:03] <MobyTurbo> hybrid_, Linux partially complies with other standards too.
[05:03] <usual> is nautilus crashing X a known bug in hoary?
[05:03] <Drizzt321> MobyTurbo: I thought it was one by ratified by on of the international standards organization. like IETF or ISO or IEEE
[05:03] <zombics> topyli, build-essential is already the newest version.
[05:03] <casimir> what about SUS?
[05:04] <Drizzt321> casimir: I was just using those as examples
[05:04] <hybrid_> MobyTurbo; but not hardware sandards ;) but posix is very loose technically windows is posix...but is it unix? :P
[05:04] <MobyTurbo> Drizzt321, yes, but the Federal Government prefers POSIX when they purchase software. It's why Windows NT contained a crippled POSIX DLL.
[05:04] <Omega11> hmm i am trying to crack my ubuntu does anyone have a serial number
[05:04] <hybrid_> MobyTurbo they really do? kool
[05:04] <Drizzt321> MobyTurbo: right, but the Federal government doesn't determine if it is a standard or not, it looks at what is out there and says we want this
[05:04] <MobyTurbo> hybrid_, Microsoft intentionally crippled their POSIX to be useless.
[05:04] <zombics> Omega11, lol? :P
[05:04] <Drizzt321> lol Omega11
[05:04] <topyli> zombics: what does gcc --version say?
[05:05] <zombics> topyli, cc (GCC) 3.3.4 (Debian 1:3.3.4-9ubuntu5)
[05:05] <MobyTurbo> Drizzt321, they have regulations concerning what they accept during bidding.
[05:05] <hybrid_> MobyTurbo ; Microsoft cripples anything that gives the user more power then them
[05:05] <vixus> I need glib-2.0 -> libbonobo2-dev -> bremote
[05:05] <membreya> nautilus applications:///Internet : "applications:///Internet" is not a valid location.  what the?! why am I getting this message?
[05:05] <MobyTurbo> hybrid_, exactly.
[05:05] <vixus> What do I need to apt-get for glib-2.0 (dev)
[05:05] <MobyTurbo> hybrid_, look what they did to Java ("J++")
[05:05] <Drizzt321> MobyTurbo: yes, I know. I work around the aquasitions(sp?) people. thank god I don't actually have to do that stuff
[05:05] <hybrid_> and c#
[05:06] <topyli> zombics: hrmpf. strange
[05:06] <casimir> is there any way to get the deb packages from apt for nvidia to work with a different kernel version?
[05:06] <Drizzt321> MobyTurbo: but you're mistaken in saying that Federal Government makes standards. generally speaking, they don't, they simply look at what standards organizations have ratified, and chooses from there
[05:06] <MobyTurbo> hybrid_, Linux has C# too. Mono. :-)
[05:06] <MobyTurbo> Drizzt321, I didn't mean to imply that they are the authority behind POSIX.
[05:07] <hybrid_> MobyTurbo yea and it doesnt have all those wierd M$ warnings. but i havent go to play with mono much
[05:07] <Omega11> linux is the poor mans windows
[05:07] <Drizzt321> MobyTurbo: I understand that, but I thought you were implying that Fed Gov't makes/determines standards
[05:07] <hybrid_> isnt it the open soure dotnet
[05:07] <MobyTurbo> Omega11, no, Linux is the poor-man's Unix.
[05:07] <hybrid_> Omega11 ; Linux != windows
[05:08] <MobyTurbo> hybrid_, yes, Mono includes more than C#.
[05:08] <Omega11> yea but linux is better then unix
[05:08] <hybrid_> MobyTurbo Linux is also the free mans unix
[05:08] <hybrid_> Omega11 ; yea system V is obsolete
[05:08] <MobyTurbo> Linux has become better than any propritary version of Unix on the PC platform.
[05:08] <hybrid_> and if i am correct that is the newest version of unix
[05:08] <Bandit> "Linux; because a PC is a terrible thing to waste."
[05:08] <hybrid_> lol
[05:09] <Bandit> a useless operating system, copied directly from the Mac OS, which prior to that, copied it from IBM. It's sole purpose is to make users even more confused and drawing more stupid users to the Internet. see also conspiracy, microsoft, microsmurf
[05:09] <mz2> hmm i can't seem to get X.org to work with my ATi card on hoary
[05:09] <MobyTurbo> hybrid_, no, the clean-room *BSDs are newer.
[05:09] <mz2> the screen's all scrambled and the cursor's this weird box
[05:09] <Omega11> i use windows
[05:09] <Omega11> because it just works
[05:10] <Drizzt321> Omega11: sure, games always come out for windows first
[05:10] <mz2> the fglrx module doesn't work with the kernel version i'm using, it seems
[05:10] <hybrid_> MobyTurbo but they are UN*X not unix unless they got a liscence i could be wrong i dont pay much attention to BS
[05:10] <hybrid_> d
[05:10] <MobyTurbo> Omega11, then go to #windows and leave us alone.
[05:10] <mz2> i've tried compiling it but it says: Makefile:50: *** mixed implicit and normal rules.   Net2 and 4.4BSD and Linux both have no AT&T code.
[05:11] <Drizzt321> Omega11: KOffice
[05:11] <Golfer> Omega11 yes I am
[05:11] <MobyTurbo> hybrid_, shift-8
[05:11] <universal> hallo?
[05:11] <Omega11> can you play everquest two on your precious linux?
[05:11] <mjr> Drizzt321, not really; people keep feeding it and that just makes it stink up the place even more
[05:11] <Golfer> Omega11 actually I am using all the the Office Suite through linux
[05:11] <hybrid_> MobyTurbo ; yup but didnt sco have at&t code
[05:11] <Drizzt321> mjr: true. it is getting annoying
[05:12] <vixus> Drizzt321: I need glibc-2.0 for libbonobo.
[05:12] <Golfer> Omega11 for games I bought an Xbox
[05:12] <hybrid_> MobyTurbo ; oo just start with an asterick? ok thnx
[05:12] <hybrid_> lol
[05:12] <MobyTurbo> hybrid_, yes, because SCO sold propritary SysV Unix(tm)
[05:12] <hybrid_> MobyTurbo and isnt that why the are after my beloved big blue
[05:12] <vixus> Golfer: Xbox... for games?
[05:12] <Drizzt321> vixus: ?
[05:12] <vixus> Drizzt321, any idea what I need to apt-get?
[05:13] <vixus> Drizzt321, trying to compile Blue Remote :D
[05:13] <Omega11> xbox is owned my microsoft
[05:13] <Golfer> yep for games
[05:13] <Omega11> i thought u didn't like microsoft
[05:13] <hybrid_> Omega11 yup but linux is on alot of xboxes
[05:13] <Golfer> yep MS makes for awesome gameing
[05:13] <Drizzt321> vixus: not sure, I think 2.0 is probably in experimental...there might be a backport of it though, not really sure where you'd get a .deb of it though, sorry
[05:13] <vixus> Golfer, a Gamecube, or a PS2 at a stretch has actual GAMES.
[05:13] <vixus> :P
[05:14] <vixus> dern
[05:14] <Golfer> vixus you should get out a bit more
[05:14] <Golfer> http://www.microsoft.com/xbox/
[05:14] <hybrid_> did anyone every see Yoshi from the screen savers build his all in one gaming box?
[05:14] <Drizzt321> Golfer: actually, I thought it was Bungie that made for awsome gaming ;)
[05:14] <MobyTurbo> hybrid_, SCO sucked even amongst propritary Unixes. All they are now is a lawsuit company, their products are inferior in every way to open source Unix-like operating systems.
[05:15] <vixus> hybrid_ I read about it.
[05:15] <Golfer> Ok guys lets get back to what the channel is for
[05:15] <vixus> Yep:
[05:15] <vixus> can anyone decipher this:
[05:15] <hybrid_> MobyTurbo : yea my dad had some sco software at work and it sucked
[05:15] <hybrid_> vixus : yea it was kool
[05:16] <vixus> gcc -g -Wall -c remote.c `pkg-config libbonobo-2.0 --cflags | `Package glib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. | Perhaps you should add the directory containing `glib-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable | Package 'glib-2.0', required by 'libbonobo', not found | remote.c:41:18: glib.h: No such file or directory
[05:17] <tritium> vixus, yeah, you don't have libglib2.0-dev installed
[05:17] <jbailey> vixus: libglib2.0-0-dev
[05:17] <vixus> thank you.
[05:17] <jbailey> err. libglib2.0-dev rather
[05:17] <Omega11> VIXUS STOP SPAMMING
[05:17] <Omega11> PASTE SOMEWHERE ELSE PLZ
[05:17] <Drizzt321> vixus: ahh...yea, thats a bit different then glibc
[05:17] <vixus> I pasted only one line.
[05:17] <Drizzt321> vixus: ignore him, he's trolling
[05:17] <Omega11> PASTE SOMEWHERE ELSE
[05:17] <lognok> sorry gys it was me
[05:17] <Omega11> DONT SPAM IT IRC
[05:17] <Omega11> FOO
[05:18] <lognok> sorry
[05:18] <jbailey> Hmm, objecting to a one line paste with yelling.  That's..  impressive. =)
[05:18] <mjr> lognok, what've you got to be sorry for, you're not Omega11? ;)
[05:18] <vixus> Omega, is that you?  My mom and dad are both teachers(well, dad is retired).
[05:24] <Neil3> hehe
[05:24] <vixus> Anyone?   Amazing.
[05:35] <kbrooks> I want to print stuff on my printer
[05:35] <MobyTurbo> kbrooks, let us know what the problem is.
[05:35] <kbrooks> vixus
[05:35] <vixus> Now, I need to bind my phone to a device or something.
[05:35] <vixus> kbrooks?
[05:35] <kbrooks> computer science and math
[05:35] <vixus> Now the way I see it. ;)
[05:35] <Golfer> kbrooks why cant you print
[05:35] <kbrooks> MobyTurbo, *continuing* but i cant
[05:35] <CubicllyCentric> arg... morning all
[05:36] <kbrooks> whats the port to access cups web configuration
[05:36] <kbrooks> http://localhost:port/
[05:36] <LinuxJones> kbrooks, 631
[05:36] <will> that was amusing
[05:36] <MobyTurbo> kbrooks, you can't configure it directly via cups, it's disabled. Use "Computer / System Configuration / Printing"
[05:37] <AngryClip> how does one see what services are starting at boot up, and know if they are safe to disable?
[05:38] <AngryClip> is there some super documentation on that stuff somewhere?
[05:38] <vixus> How the heck do I bind my phone to an RFCOMM device?
[05:39] <MobyTurbo> AngryClip, the docs for particular services *may* be in /usr/share/doc or the manpages.
[05:39] <WillCooke> Can somone running Hoary with alsa sound try something for me?
[05:39] <mz2> phew, turned out the fglrx module was fine (that error msg i saw in the log was from an earlier bootup). but i did have to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to get it to work after dist-upgrade
[05:39] <sjoerd> vixus: rfcomm --help :)
[05:39] <mz2> is that normal or did something go wrong with my dist-upgrade?
[05:39] <vixus> thanks sjoerd
[05:39] <MobyTurbo> mz2, it's probably normal. I wouldn't worry about it.
[05:40] <vixus> sjoerd, what is bdaddress?
[05:40] <vixus> sjoerd, what is bdaddr?
[05:40] <sjoerd> vixus: bluetooth address of your phone
[05:40] <seacyd> Hello, in Epiphany there is a new "work offline" toggle in file. Is there a way to switch this off? (Have just upgrade to hoary)
[05:41] <sjoerd> vixus: you cna use hcitool scan to find the bluetooth devices in the neighbourhood
[05:41] <website> seacyd, maybe it is a new feature of that browser
[05:42] <Golfer> AngryClip also in /etc/rc3.d  all that start with k are shutdown when you shutdown and all with an S tart when you boot
[05:42] <drasko> hello evrybody
[05:42] <hybrid_> in irssi can i type slash help command and find out about that command
[05:42] <seacyd> website: yes, but I can nowhere find how to turn it off. Everytime I start the browser the standard is "work offline".
[05:42] <kbrooks> thx all
[05:43] <mz2> is there a way to make apt-get not complain about the gpg keys for the repositories fow which it's missing?
[05:43] <vixus> sjoerd, done that, it lists my phone.
[05:43] <vixus> now what?
[05:43] <mz2> can't find anything from atp.conf, sources.list or apt-get man pages at least
[05:44] <LinuxJones> mz2, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary/view?searchterm=gpg%20apt
[05:45] <theweb> Anyone who can give a helping hand for getting my sound working? There seems no /dev/dsp, so how to make this /dsp available ind /dev??
[05:45] <casimir> I'm going to restart to see if the latest kernel helps out with these nvidia problems, anyone else know of some dead chickens I can wave at it?
[05:46] <vixus> sjoerd, "Can't create device. Operation not permitted."
[05:46] <mz2> LinuxJones, thanks
[05:46] <Drizzt321> gah, such cheap RAM, but I've spent so much otherwise in the past few weeks. must. resist. temptation.
[05:47] <sjoerd> vixus: you'll need to run it as root
[05:47] <hybrid_brb> *laufs at Drizz321
[05:47] <Drizzt321> hybrid_brb: dude, 512meg ddr400 for $40 after mail in rebates
[05:48] <hybrid_> 512? wow
[05:48] <vixus> lol, sorry sjoerd. I thought my phone was denying
[05:48] <Drizzt321> hybrid_: yea, offer good throguh the end of today. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=586829&Tab=5
[05:48] <hybrid_> Drizz321 is it a certain brand or a depot with it on sale?
[05:48] <Drizzt321> hybrid_: ultra brand
[05:49] <hybrid_> kool
[05:49] <Drizzt321> hybrid_: seems ok, pretty slow(cl3), but I wouldn't be using this for games or anything
[05:49] <deepsight> hallo ubuntunites, does anybody knows if i can put kernel 2.6.10 in warty via apt-get?
[05:49] <hybrid_> Drizz321 : idk if i can use it with my ibook
[05:50] <Drizzt321> hybrid_: you won't, its not sodimm ddr, its standard sized ddr
[05:50] <vixus> sjoerd, bremote won't connect with my phone.
[05:50] <Golfer> deepsight why not just upgrade warty to hoary
[05:50] <Drizzt321> hybrid_: laptops use 200pin sodimm ddr modules, not 184 pin dimm ddr modules
[05:50] <deepsight> Golfer, im afraid everything breaks apart, im a newb
[05:50] <hybrid_> Drizz321 : @#<EMAIL_ADDRESS>oic
[05:50] <vixus> deepsight: apt-get install kernel-2.6.10 ?
[05:50] <vixus> XD
[05:51] <vixus> sjoerd, Any ideas?
[05:51] <Golfer> deepsight :) its working very good for me
[05:51] <sjoerd> vixus: dunno how that works
[05:51] <deepsight> okey then
[05:51] <deepsight> there i go
[05:51] <Golfer> :)
[05:51] <sjoerd> vixus: you can test the rfcomm connecint with something like minicom though....
[05:51] <deepsight> the thing is that my usb hard drive is not working here with 2.6.8
[05:52] <deepsight> and i read somewhere that they fixed something in .10
[05:52] <Drizzt321> hrm...so hoary is newer than warty? I though warty was the latest?
[05:52] <vixus> sjoerd: Minicom?!!
[05:52] <deepsight> hoary is testing i think
[05:52] <Drizzt321> ahh
[05:52] <Golfer> Drizzt321 warty is the latest stable
[05:52] <Golfer> hoary is scheduled to be released in April
[05:52] <MobyTurbo> deepsight, more like unstable
[05:52] <Drizzt321> Golfer: ah, I see. if I'm used to debian/testing, would I probably prefer warty or hoary?
[05:52] <sjoerd> vixus: serial console program
[05:52] <vixus> sjoerd: rfcomm0: 0F:00:00:00:00:00 channel 1 closed
[05:52] <deepsight> oh, thanks
[05:53] <sjoerd> vixus: that's a strange bt address
[05:53] <MobyTurbo> Drizzt321, hoary is sort of a cross between testing, in that it eventually becomes stable, and unstable, in that things get broken a bit.
[05:53] <deepsight> i remember like 4 years ago i had debian unstable and weird things happened :D
[05:53] <vixus> yep
[05:53] <eKLim> hie... anyone knows how to configure USB DSL modem?
[05:53] <Drizzt321> MobyTurbo: ok, so its probably closer to sid/unstable in the debian world?
[05:53] <vixus> I also tried hcitool cc FoxT610
[05:53] <Golfer> Drizzt321 if your used to testing and dont mind it hoary is the way to go
[05:54] <vixus> Can't create connection: Connection timed out
[05:54] <hybrid_> is warty the first ubuntu version
[05:54] <Drizzt321> Golfer: well, I have never really found any real issue with debian/testing in terms of things breaking
[05:54] <Golfer> like i said no problems here
[05:54] <deepsight> glibc broke in old times and it was not nice
[05:54] <deepsight> ancient times
[05:54] <Drizzt321> Golfer: so you got hoary and in general use, no issues?
[05:55] <Bandit> deepsight no troubles here either
[05:55] <hybrid_> is hoary based on sarge or sid
[05:55] <deepsight> nice, so there i go
[05:55] <MobyTurbo> Drizzt321, hoary does have things breaking. If you're willing to put up with that it could be fun. Personally I'm running warty, but that's partially because I don't have broadband.
[05:55] <MobyTurbo> hybrid_, both are based on sid, except Hoary is more on the bleeding edge (stuff like xorg and gnome 2.9) than Sid.
[05:55] <Bandit> deepsight  I am running a small server on it with no problems Server Uptime 4 days, 1:53:16
[05:56] <Drizzt321> MobyTurbo: have you heard of things breaking all the time, or just now and then?
[05:56] <Bandit> but its what ever turns you on :)
[05:56] <hybrid_> MobyTurbo ; o ok so hoary is more in developement then sid
[05:56] <Drizzt321> MobyTurbo: since I kind of want newer than debian/testing, but I don't think I'm ready for bleeding edge released yesterday kind of thing
[05:56] <deepsight> Bandit, ok ill adventure and see what happens, what i want to see is if it supports my usb external hd cradle
[05:56] <MobyTurbo> Drizzt321, things break constantly, but nothing so bad that you have to reinstall like sid used to do.
[05:57] <Drizzt321> MobyTurbo: ahhh. would it make more sense to install warty, and see if I want to upgrade to hoary then?
[05:57] <MobyTurbo> Drizzt321, of course, that doesn't mean that *can't* happen...
[05:57] <Drizzt321> MobyTurbo: heh, indeed.
[05:57] <MobyTurbo> Drizzt321, sure. You can always dist-upgrade.
[05:58] <Drizzt321> MobyTurbo: yea, I think thats what I'll do. Also because I already have the warty amd64 install disk burnt. lol
[05:58] <MobyTurbo> Drizzt321, AMD64? You rock. ;-)
[05:58] <Golfer> Drizzt321 http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ why not check there  there maybe an answer to your usb
[05:58] <Drizzt321> MobyTurbo: yea, _JUST_ got it. primarily for games, so I have windows on it, but I want to try the whole linux only including games things. with transgaming
[05:59] <Drizzt321> Golfer: wrong person ;)
[05:59] <Drizzt321> MobyTurbo: also a 6800 GT PCI-Express =D
[05:59] <Golfer> opps sorry
[05:59] <Neil3> hoary should be a nice release :)
[05:59] <hybrid_> unless u r on ppc
[05:59] <MobyTurbo> Drizzt321, Linux supports roguelike games better than Windows. :-)
[05:59] <hybrid_> gnome only worx for me in fail safe :p
[05:59] <Drizzt321> MobyTurbo: don't I know it. I just keep coming back to nethack, I can't stay away!
[06:00] <Pointwood> have anyone experienced problems with adding new items to the menu? I right click, enter the relevant info and clicks ok and nothing happens :(
[06:00] <choisy> is gksu working for anyone in today's hoary?
[06:00] <mz2> does cedega work on hoary (or rather, X.org) well?
[06:00] <MobyTurbo> Drizzt321, have you tried crawl (Lindsey's Dungeon Crawl)? That one is nice.
[06:00] <Drizzt321> MobyTurbo: no, not yet
[06:01] <Drizzt321> mz2: cedega isn't X11/X.org specific, that I am aware of
[06:01] <Drizzt321> mz2: it just uses the libs that talk to the server. from what I understand of it
[06:01] <MobyTurbo> Drizzt321, I like the way Nethack has a kitchen sink. ;-)
[06:01] <Drizzt321> MobyTurbo: yup. literally, everything possible :)
[06:01] <mz2> Drizzt321, I know it shouldn't be, but I just know from reading earlier on that there have been problems with it on X.org
[06:01] <Drizzt321> mz2: there have? hmmm
[06:02] <Drizzt321> mz2: you heard anything about an amd64 compile version of cedega?
[06:02] <mz2> wouldn't really know
[06:02] <Drizzt321> damn
[06:03] <[sys] > i'm having problems installing ubuntu on both my vmware and my laptop. is this the place to ask for some guidance?
[06:04] <housetier> it is
[06:04] <[sys] > niceness... :)
[06:04] <[sys] > i've downloaded the warty-install iso, and it fails the cd-integrity test
[06:05] <[sys] > is it a known feature? should I download it again? in vmware I mount the iso directly, so I don't think the plastic is bad
[06:05] <Drizzt321> [sys] : yes, you should download it again
[06:06] <[sys] > ah. oki. i'll try.
[06:06] <Drizzt321> [sys] : if it fails the integrity test
[06:07] <[sys] > there is no image like the debian netinstall? a minimal thingie that downloads the packages...
[06:07] <deepsight> creepy flashback going to unstable things...
[06:08] <Drizzt321> [sys] : not sure, I don't think so
[06:08] <[sys] > k
[06:08] <[sys] > thank you drizz. i'll try downloading it again.
[06:09] <Drizzt321> [sys] : you're welcome. you might want to try downloading it via bittorrent
[06:09] <[sys] > bah... am downloading it now at 2mbit/s... enough for me :)
[06:09] <Drizzt321> [sys] : it probably is more reliable since bittorent ensures that the file you get, is exactly the file you wanted
[06:09] <Drizzt321> lol, ok
[06:09] <looksaus> I'm looking for a Hoary package of vnc2swf
[06:10] <looksaus> anyone?
[06:10] <Psyk[o] > I'm going to install windows on my hd... after the installation how I can reverto the boot-manager to grub? (I dont have a floppy drive :()
[06:11] <Drizzt321> Psyk[o] : do you have an ubunto live cd, or knoppix?
[06:11] <Psyk[o] > yes, I've knobbix but i can burn the ubuntu live
[06:12] <rubixXx> psyko you will have to reinstall your boot loader
[06:12] <Drizzt321> Psyk[o] : well, if you have knoppix you can still boot it, and then reinstall grub
[06:12] <rubixXx> yep
[06:12] <rubixXx> if not you getta do it command line
[06:12] <Psyk[o] > yes, but how?
[06:12] <Psyk[o] > I dont know how i can reinstall grub :(
[06:14] <_4strO|Ult1m4t3> mIRC v6.14 Khaled Mardam-Bey
[06:14] <CubicllyCentric> ok so I have this odd problem. ..
[06:15] <CubicllyCentric> When I'm running Gnome... something is writing to my HDD every 4 seconds or so... on the dot...
[06:15] <spiral> hybrid_: hmmm... why a CTCP version ?
[06:15] <CubicllyCentric> it's not writing much... about 20k or so.. .but annoying as hell.
[06:15] <hybrid_> spiral idk all i did was type slash ver to see what it would do
[06:16] <Psyk[o] > Drizzt321, btw, when I've installed windows I'll return here with knoppix :) I whish you will help me ;)
[06:16] <CubicllyCentric> How would I go about seeing what is being writen to my drive?
[06:16] <Drizzt321> Psyk[o] : I'll be around
[06:16] <spiral> hybrid_: all right... I bet the answer won't help you much :-p
[06:16] <Drizzt321> Psyk[o] : far as I know right now anyways
[06:16] <CubicllyCentric> Like top but for hdd writes/reads.
[06:16] <Psyk[o] > eheheh, thx dude
[06:16] <CubicllyCentric> anyone?
[06:16] <Psyk[o] > se you leater ;)
[06:16] <hybrid_> spiral ; nope not at all
[06:17] <hybrid_> spiral what is ctcp
[06:17] <hybrid_> hey tritium
[06:17] <tritium> hybrid_, hello
[06:18] <CubicllyCentric> ok ANYONE, please, do any of you know if there is a tool to see what process is accessing a device in real time... like top for HDD writes/reads???
[06:18] <Golfer> hybrid_ ctcp = Client To Client Protocol.  More info about CTCP can be found @ http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/misc/ctcpspec.html  :)
[06:18] <hybrid_> ok tnx
[06:19] <tritium> CubicllyCentric, lsof
[06:19] <TSWoodV> CubicllyCentric, look at fuser or psof
[06:19] <[sys] > drizz: now it doesn't fail the integrity test. hooray!
[06:19] <CubicllyCentric> tritium, lsof, far to much output to go over...
[06:20] <TSWoodV> CubicllyCentric, lsof, my bad.'
[06:20] <CubicllyCentric> TSWoodV, fuser and psof... I'll take  a look at these, thanks.
[06:20] <TSWoodV> Anyone else seeing lockups in firefox in hoary?>
[06:20] <Drizzt321> [sys] : should be good now :)
[06:21] <scoon> TSWoodV, yes and no.
[06:21] <scoon> TSWoodV, i think it is either the flash or java plugin getting thrown some bad code and killing X
[06:21] <[sys] > drizz: will the installer setup grub so it dual boots between my gentoo and ubuntu?
[06:21] <ssamf> the find as you type in firefox sometimes goes crazy
[06:21] <Drizzt321> [sys] : I believe it detects other install OSes
[06:21] <TSWoodV> I'm not running those plugins.  I straced firefox and found it was trying to access /dev/dsp.
[06:22] <CubicllyCentric> Can I make lsof only show processes that have accessed a file within the past few seconds?
[06:22] <TSWoodV> I'm thinking we're back to the nasty old esd problems again...
[06:22] <scoon> TSWoodV, prolly thru the flash plugin
[06:22] <scoon> or because of.
[06:22] <vixus> Blue Remote rocks!
[06:22] <scoon> TSWoodV, but it only happens to me if i have a bunch of tabs open
[06:22] <vixus> Hey, can I create a launcher that carries out two commands?
[06:23] <eKLim> hie... anyone knows how to configure USB DSL modem?
[06:23] <binks> anyone no enemy-territory
[06:23] <TSWoodV> CubicllyCentric, I think lsof shows you a snapshot of what's open right now.  Create a script that runs lsof over and over and redirects the output to a file.
[06:23] <TSWoodV> scoon, I've not loaded any plugins - no flash, no java.
[06:23] <CubicllyCentric> TSWoodV, ok... but then I'd have a large file and no way to use it...
[06:24] <TSWoodV> scoon, I've gotten it to fail once with just a single tab.
[06:24] <TSWoodV> CubicllyCentric, what is it you need to do?
[06:24] <scoon> TSWoodV, sorry then, i don't know.  but I get your problem from time to time with many tabs and flash
[06:24] <scoon> TSWoodV, all tho, it used to be worse.
[06:25] <vixus> can i create launchers that carry out two (or more) commands?
[06:25] <scoon> TSWoodV, it was real bad cuz my agp card and 1pci slot were sharing irq's
[06:25] <binks> how do i set permissions on a folder so anyone can read/write
[06:25] <TSWoodV> scoon, I thought I'd mangled my profile, but that's not the case either.
[06:25] <CubicllyCentric> TSWoodV, something is writing 20k or so to my drive every 4 seconds... like clockwork. I need to find out what it is, because it only happens in Gnome.
[06:25] <hybrid_> binks try chmod
[06:25] <scoon> TSWoodV, i fixed that and the crashing almost never happens now.
[06:25] <dutch> how do I change the path for the Download Manager ?
[06:25] <scoon> TSWoodV, don't know if that would be something for you to check
[06:26] <vixus> Or should I do a shell script>
[06:26] <binks> but what code do i use
[06:26] <topyli> vixus: sure, but the second one won't run until the other has finishsed
[06:26] <hybrid_> man chmod
[06:27] <Golfer> CubicllyCentric have you checked to see what processes are running
[06:27] <topyli> vixus: so you can't use something like 'mozilla ; gnome-mines' i guess
[06:27] <vixus> ok
[06:27] <CubicllyCentric> Golfer, yes... but seeing what's running does not help me find out which one it is...
[06:28] <CubicllyCentric> Golfer, it's to small of a write to make the process stand out in top.
[06:28] <binks> chso i would use man chmod usr/local/mydir
[06:28] <Golfer> CubicllyCentric well you may want to close some and see if anything you close stops it
[06:29] <Golfer> that should answer your question
[06:30] <TSWoodV> scoon, this just started about 3 days ago.
[06:30] <scoon> TSWoodV, ah.  this has been going on for me during warty and hoary
[06:30] <CubicllyCentric> Golfer,  I've done that before... in my Gnome2.6/slackware days... it's odd, I only note this on my home system and Gnome2.6+... every other system I've put something gnome based does not act like this.
[06:30] <TSWoodV> CubicllyCentric, I've scanned the manpage for lsof.  There are some options in there for limiting the search to specific directories.  I'm guessing you know the filesystem that's getting written, right?
[06:31] <TSWoodV> scoon, it only seems to happen on the hoary laptop.  I've got a strange, small form factor desktop that doesn't do this.
[06:32] <CubicllyCentric> TSWoodV, yah, I'm reading the man page right now too... I'm guessing it's my root filesystem, because I don't partition my drive past swap and /.
[06:32] <scoon> TSWoodV, x86 lappy ?
[06:32] <TSWoodV> scoon, P4
[06:32] <scoon> TSWoodV, x86.  dunno, sorry.  my story is different.
[06:33] <rubixXx> where is the new gnome desktop dir
[06:33] <TSWoodV> scoon, anyway, if I kill the esd daemon, I don't have the problem any more.
[06:33] <Merlin7000> hi there... why cant i get my ati and ubuntu to work... i have tried the guides out there but, when i boot up after the installtion it wont start the X, my xf86config is cleared and i can't make any other things than reinstalling the os, what am i during wrong ?
[06:34] <darkcmd> does ubuntu come with synaptic
[06:34] <TSWoodV> darkcmd, yes.
[06:34] <scoon> TSWoodV, maybe it is an irq issue w/ your sound card ?
[06:34] <TSWoodV> darkcmd, look under the desktop menu -> administration
[06:34] <Merlin7000> someone plz help me i realy like ubuntu
[06:34] <binks> merlin install fg driver throu symantic the edit x86config to reflect the driver
[06:35] <scoon> TSWoodV, maybe check your irq's, just to be certain
[06:35] <deepsight> :( the hoary upgrade stops here Automatically selecting en_US.UTF-8 locale in addition to en_US.
[06:35] <Merlin7000> have done that.. anyone with ati cards wont to help ?
[06:35] <binks> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5246
[06:36] <binks> i did it this morning m8
[06:36] <TSWoodV> scoon, all is good. ACPI is actually working as it should (hallelujah!).  It's just the age old problem of esd hogging /dev/dsp.  And that's even with alsa installed.  One of the days it just might get sorted out...
[06:36] <darkcmd> where can I get some ubuntu screenshots?
[06:36] <darkcmd> also, does ubuntu use the standard debian repositories?
[06:37] <Agrajag> gnome looks pretty much the same no matter the distribution, and no
[06:37] <klaym> www.kotiposti.net/jisometsa/Kuvakaappaus.png <- there's my ubuntu desktop
[06:37] <Merlin7000> binks, thats the guide i have been using
[06:37] <binks> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/screenshots/document_view
[06:37] <darkcmd> does it use ubuntu specific repositories>
[06:37] <TSWoodV> darkcmd, ubuntu uses the debian repos.  Just be careful that you don't run apt-get dist-upgrade.  You'll be back to debian stock in no time...
[06:37] <drasko> darkcmd, no, it has it't own,
[06:37] <darkcmd> so it uses it's own or the debian ones?
[06:38] <drasko> darkcmd,  but you can add any repository you want...
[06:38] <Agrajag> TSWoodV: what, no it doesn't
[06:38] <TSWoodV> darkcmd, drasko is correct in that there are specific ubuntu repos.  You can add the debian ones back in in just about amount you'd like.
[06:38] <Agrajag> you CAN, but you shouldn't, and they're not in sources.list unless you add them yourself
[06:38] <darkcmd> nah i would just like to use the ubuntu ones
[06:38] <darkcmd> if I do dist upgrade with the ubunto ones
[06:38] <drasko> darkcmd, just edit /etc/apt/sources-list
[06:38] <darkcmd> am I safe
[06:39] <TSWoodV> Agrajag, I'm running universe against this hoary and am having no problems.  With the right sources.list, you'll be just fine.
[06:39] <drasko> darkcmd, I agree...
[06:39] <scoon> so, if someone added all debian repos and then did a dist-upgrade this would not be ubuntu anymore ?
[06:39] <davix> need help, I can hear music in the gnome music player, but not in the other audio applications... any ideas?
[06:39] <drasko> darkcmd, otherwise, you'll get Srage
[06:39] <scoon> could the ubuntu repos then be added back and dist-upgrade back to ubuntu
[06:39] <TSWoodV> darkcmd, there's documentation IIRC in the faq at ubuntulinux.com about this.
[06:40] <TSWoodV> davix, warty or hoary?
[06:40] <drasko> scoon, right
[06:40] <davix> hoary
[06:40] <davix> upgraded from warty
[06:40] <scoon> drasko, hmmm.  that's kinda cool
[06:40] <stuNNed_> topyli: ok! thanks! :D
[06:40] <scoon> drasko, anyone done that in here ?
[06:40] <darkcmd> TSWoodV, is warty the latest release, and is it based on sarge?
[06:40] <drasko> scoon, yes, I did it myself...
[06:40] <TSWoodV> davix, same here.  It's all related to that dreaded esd and blocking against /dev/dsp.
[06:41] <scoon> drasko, any problems ?
[06:41] <davix> TSWoodV, erm, any ideas of how to fix it?
[06:41] <topyli> stuNNed_: yeah i put something in. at least there's a link to the manual :)
[06:41] <TSWoodV> darkcmd, warty is first and current release.  hoary is scheduled for release later this year.  It's pretty good as it it.
[06:42] <TSWoodV> darkcmd, as it IS
[06:42] <drasko> scoon, nope... it even changes your desktop theme and your spalsh... Justa that several packages are held back and not upgraded
[06:42] <darkcmd> I'm downloading Ubunto for my dad
[06:42] <darkcmd> right now
[06:42] <davix> hoary is rather nice, will get better as it seems from this pov.
[06:43] <drasko> scoon, I still keep ubuntu repositories as well... So I've got some kind of mix on my machine... but it works great.
[06:43] <scoon> drasko, thanks.  i was always wondering about that.
[06:43] <darkcmd> what version of gnome is in the stable release atm
[06:43] <TSWoodV> davix, try Desktop -> Preferences -> Sound and uncheck the box that talks about sound server startup.  I've not checked to see what downside this has.
[06:43] <stuNNed_> topyli: good enought really the 'info' is all we need :D
[06:43] <davix> ok TSWoodV brb
[06:44] <TSWoodV> davix, then pkill -9 esd
[06:44] <davix> done
[06:44] <drasko> scoon, you're welcome..
[06:45] <davix> TSWoodV, works like a charm :)
[06:45] <topyli> darkcmd: 2.8.1
[06:45] <darkcmd> I'
[06:45] <pythonist> Hi everyone...
[06:45] <darkcmd> I'm gonna get ubuntu via the torrent I think
[06:46] <TSWoodV> davix, good.  Now let's figure out what that screwed up.  Does xmms/soundjuicer/rhythmbox/gnome system sound/etc. get affected?
[06:46] <pythonist> I've installed a minimal ubuntu on my DSL gw...
[06:46] <davix> let me check
[06:46] <pythonist> but I've got problems...
[06:46] <pythonist> I can ping anything from any host inside my private lan
[06:46] <TSWoodV> davix, seems that gnome sounds (window openings, etc.) don't work.
[06:46] <davix> yeah
[06:46] <davix> they dont work
[06:46] <pythonist> but no internal host can connect trough http...
[06:47] <davix> erm is there an open bug report on this one?
[06:47] <pythonist> I can ssh to an external host
[06:47] <Drizzt321> pythonist: do you have NAT setup and working?
[06:47] <pythonist> Drizzt321: yep.
[06:47] <pythonist> Drizzt321: I can ssh to an external host,
[06:47] <Drizzt321> pythonist: oh. hrm
[06:47] <pythonist> Drizzt321: but as I type ls -l on a long directory
[06:47] <pythonist> Drizzt321: the connection just hang...
[06:47] <Freedomzen> ive got a quick question I have an amd64 proc running at 2.2 Ghz but cat /proc/cpuinfo shows that it's running at 1 Ghz
[06:47] <cindux> =/
[06:48] <pythonist> Drizzt321: everything works find from the gw itself...
[06:48] <bc> davix, did you check everything related to audio in Synaptic, with the universal repositories included?
[06:48] <bc> I had problems like yours, and just very unscientifically added packages till stuff worked
[06:48] <Drizzt321> pythonist: I'm not sure.  I use Warty...
[06:49] <cindux> sorry = /
[06:49] <cindux> but i am having problems with shutting down
[06:49] <davix> bc, i wil
[06:49] <cindux> on my compaq it would say "Power Down." & I could turn it off manually
[06:49] <davix> err, terminatorX just killde my mouse
[06:49] <davix> errr
[06:50] <cindux> now on my new pc it says "ACPI Power Down."
  This causes problems like you're having.
[06:51] <cindux> so do i have to keep doing it manually ?
[06:51] <cindux> everytime i do, start ups hang more
[06:51] <TSWoodV> cindux, see if there's a BIOS upgrade for your machinel.
[06:52] <TSWoodV> cindux, you can also add "noacpi" to your grub configuration.
[06:52] <TSWoodV> cindux, this will treat the machine like an APM box.
[06:52] <cindux> hm
[06:53] <darkcmd> how many packages are in ubuntus repository compared to debian?
[06:54] <Allen> can some one help me in setting up ubuntu for a development box
[06:55] <cindux> ask away?
[06:55] <drasko> darkcmd, I guess you'll find everything that you lookin' for in Ubuntu :)
[06:55] <Allen> i need stuff like cross compiler for arm etc...
[06:55] <Allen> i guess i have to build them from sources
[06:56] <Allen> thats what i have been doing
[06:56] <Allen> is there a way i can get them from synaptic
[06:56] <TSWoodV> Allen, just add the debian repos to your sources.list
[06:57] <Allen> thnks
[06:57] <Allen> i am new to this ...i havent used debian before..
[06:57] <Drizzt321> wtf? whats the default root password?
[06:57] <Allen> so i am finding it a little difficult to move around
[06:57] <drasko> Allen, do the refresh when you get in Synaptic, also...
[06:57] <Jelte> hi there... I've tried to install winxp next to my ubuntu, however it seems to have failed in a bad way ;-(   cant boot anymore... so I thought I'd need to 'grub-install /dev/hda' to get things back to working, but (using knoppix and chroot /dev/hda1) if i do grub-install it says /dev/null permission denied ?  its crw-rw-rw- so why is it not allowed?
[06:57] <pythonist> Where's the kernel configuration used by Ubuntu?
[06:57] <Allen> sure
[06:58] <Allen> and there in one more prob that i came across
[06:58] <drasko> Allen, but my advice is to go from the cosole, with apt-get build-dep <package>
[06:58] <Drizzt321> nm, I sudo'd passwd and changed it
[06:58] <cindux> er help me hardware moronic ass lol
[06:58] <Allen> when running the kernel compilation specific to arm....i got the error of ncurses lib
[06:59] <Allen> i shall do it from konsole
[06:59] <TSWoodV> pythonist, /boot/grubh/menu.lst
[06:59] <TSWoodV> pythonist, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:59] <drasko> Allen, happened to me for compiling the kernel.. you have to install ncurses...
[06:59] <Allen> well i have it installed
[07:00] <Allen> i checked it
[07:00] <pythonist> TSWoodV: ??? That's the grub configuration, I meant the kernel config (you know, .config in kernel sources)....
[07:00] <drasko> Allen, well, dunno.. ncurses are needed for make menuconfig - configuration in console
[07:00] <Allen> i guess i will try it again
[07:00] <Allen> ya i knw
[07:01] <Allen> if i run a xconfig....then i get a diff kind of error
[07:01] <membreya> I'm getting the following when I'm trying to install the nvidia-glx
[07:01] <TSWoodV> pythonist, sorry.  Fedora sticks them in a config directory under /usr/src/whatever-build-this-is/config
[07:01] <membreya> dpkg-divert: `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by nvidia-glx' clashes with `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx'
[07:01] <drasko> Allen, try make configure
[07:01] <Allen> anyways i shall hve that tried
[07:02] <membreya> anyone able to suggest anything?
[07:02] <cindux> before I update my BIOS, this wont affect ubuntu in anyway will it ?
[07:03] <Allen> but this is what i have felt......ubuntu is far far better than fedora.....and i have been using it for abt 2 days now
[07:03] <Allen> thanks drasko
[07:05] <Drizzt321> is there a way to use Xorg with warty(since in hoary, isn't it Xorg?)
[07:05] <Drizzt321> or should I just go ahead and update it to hoary?
[07:06] <drasko> Allen, you are welcome... Debian is really great, and Ubuntu is Debian sort of speaking, but eith a large community and easier installation.. that's my choice - rare dstro where everything works :)
[07:06] <drasko> *with
[07:06] <vi11e> should this work sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 ?? it haven't worked for few days now and I really need that in order to watch my dvd's from my dvd-drive
[07:07] <Allen> true drasko...i need to spend more time on it...but i am enjoyin hacking around
[07:07] <Allen> ;)
[07:07] <drasko> ville, wouldn't hurt... if it's the newest version it will tell you
[07:08] <vi11e> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:08] <vi11e> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:08] <vi11e> is only available from another source
[07:08] <vi11e> E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[07:08] <vi11e> it tells me that
[07:08] <Jet2k5> Hello anyone here using an iPod with Ubuntu?
[07:09] <cindux> COuld someone help me with a BIOS upgrade?
[07:09] <drasko> ville, do you have this package installed at all? it looks like it is not in repository...
[07:09] <vi11e> no I don't
[07:09] <timothy> hey, i'm having trouble mounting windows partitions. I have them mounted and listed in fstab, but when I mount them it opens the folder where they were mounted to and tells me I don't have the necessary permissions to view the contents
[07:09] <vi11e> I have a clean hoary install and I need that pack
[07:09] <darkcmd> vi11e, you can also compile libdvdcss
[07:09] <darkcmd> and install
[07:10] <drasko> ville, so apt - get wont help you a lot... unless you add some repository in /etc/apt/sources-list where you can find it...
[07:10] <tritium> vi11e, that package in on the marillat repo
[07:10] <vi11e> I am new to linux and thus I think compiling it could be quite hard? (?S
[07:10] <vi11e> tritium, can you tell me the deb url
[07:10] <drasko> ville, but try downloading that package straight from debian site...
[07:10] <tritium> vi11e, see ubuntuguide.org.  It's documented there.
[07:11] <vi11e> hmm
[07:11] <vi11e> I have that page open
[07:11] <tritium> vi11e, go to the #dvdplayback section
[07:11] <vi11e> ahh.. I thought I have marillat already... wait
[07:12] <vi11e> apparently I don't.. well gotta add it, damn :)
[07:12] <timothy> Can anyone help me mount my windows partitions/
[07:12] <vi11e> timothy, you could try change ownership of that mounetd drive
[07:13] <timothy> ville: how can I do that?
[07:13] <vi11e> chown command... I don't know though if it is staying after you reboot
[07:14] <timothy> ville: is there some option I can change in the fstab to do it permanently?
[07:14] <Freedomzen> www.google.com "search block" how to mount windows partitions in linux "enter"
[07:14] <Freedomzen> :D
[07:14] <cindux> hm..
[07:15] <vi11e> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#changefilefolderownership
[07:15] <cindux> could someone help me with updating my BIOS?
[07:15] <cindux> im on the download page, just wanted help picking which one
[07:15] <cindux> It's an Asrock P4i45GV?
[07:15] <Freedomzen> cindux, have a windows partiton?
[07:15] <cindux> nope
[07:15] <hybrid0> cindux why are yoy updating them?
[07:15] <drasko> timothy, why is a problem? Go to root comsole and issue comman mount ... what it syas?
[07:15] <cindux> I'm having issues with ACPI
[07:15] <Freedomzen> havent had much luck flashing the bios in nix
[07:15] <cindux> and this update is supposed to fix that, & several others
[07:16] <Freedomzen> cindux, turn it off
[07:16] <cindux> but it sounds cool :(
[07:16] <cindux> "advanced"
[07:16] <timothy> drasko: it lets me mount it, but once its mounted it won't let me view the contents of the folder to where it was mounted
[07:17] <cindux> So, I just turn it of in my BIOS?
[07:17] <Freedomzen> cindux, at the boot prompt
[07:17] <Freedomzen> add "acpi=off" at the grub boot line
[07:17] <hybrid0> *hybrid wonders why BIOS cd's aren't sold in stores
[07:18] <cindux> their isnt really a prompt though
[07:18] <cindux> goes t fast
[07:18] <cindux> to*
[07:18] <drasko> tmothy, try from the root console... change the permissions on the mounted folder with chmos...
[07:18] <drasko> *chmod
[07:18] <Freedomzen> cindux, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:18] <hybrid0> Freedomzen what is nano?
[07:18] <vi11e> timothy, the directory has root permissions and thus you can't view it with gnome/x-windows... go to console and sudo chown its permissions to 777 and then you can view it with the browser
[07:18] <Freedomzen> hybrid0, a text editor
[07:18] <hybrid0> oo ok
[07:19] <cindux> = /
[07:19] <cindux> all i knew ubuntu had was less
[07:19] <cindux> er not ubuntu *
[07:19] <liquidhex> I just installed array 4, and it was done installing and said to remove installation media so it could boot into my new install... And it just went right into windows xp!
[07:19] <liquidhex> the bootloader didnt install
[07:19] <liquidhex> what should I do
[07:20] <vi11e> but I don't know if it will stay that way... try reboot your computer after that timothy and see if the permissions are still there...
[07:21] <drasko> timothy, how about adding to fstab line for example:   /dev/hda3          idedisk          ntfs               noauto,user,exec 0 0
[07:21] <vi11e> drasko does that "user" mean the permission level?
[07:21] <vi11e> what's noauto
[07:21] <diego> hi all. i'm on hoary and i'm wanting to test out swsusp but when i run hibernate, swsusp2 is not in my kernel. what's up?
[07:21] <Drizzt321> for the tasks, ubuntu-desktop is setup to give Xorg and gnome, right?
[07:22] <Freedomzen> liquidhex, boot from the cd let it load all modules alt-ctrl-f2 to switch consoles, mkdir /mnt, mount /dev/yourrootfilesystem /mnt, chroot /mnt /bin/bash, grub-install hd0
[07:22] <Freedomzen> Drizzt321, yes
[07:22] <Freedomzen> vi11e, noauto means the filesystem is not automatingly mounted
[07:22] <Freedomzen> sp^
[07:23] <drasko> ville, not shure, though... root can be user too... and owner... I shoul look it up...
[07:23] <Drizzt321> Freedomzen: thanks
[07:23] <Freedomzen> Drizzt321, no prob
[07:23] <cindux> er, dumb question but when you say at the boot prompt, where? when i start up their isn't any pause anywhere
[07:24] <Freedomzen> cindux, sudo /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:24] <Freedomzen> in a terminal
[07:24] <cindux> oh
[07:24] <cindux> lol
[07:24] <Freedomzen> :D
[07:24] <Freedomzen> you with me
[07:24] <cindux> then find acpi=on & switch to =off
[07:24] <Freedomzen> cindux, no
[07:24] <cindux> :(
[07:24] <Freedomzen> look for this
[07:25] <Freedomzen> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-3-amd64-k8 Default
[07:25] <Freedomzen> yours will be different
[07:25] <drasko> ville, from man fstab:   Common for all types of  file
[07:25] <drasko>        system  are  the options ``noauto'' (do not mount when "mount -a" is given, e.g., at boot time), ``user'' (allow a
[07:25] <drasko>        user to mount), and ``owner'' (allow device owner to mount), and ``_netdev'' (device requires network to be avail-
[07:25] <drasko>        able).  The ``owner'' and ``_netdev'' options are Linux-specific.  For more details, see mount(8).
[07:25] <Freedomzen> but look for the kernel line
[07:25] <cindux> hm i got command not gounf
[07:25] <cindux> found*
[07:25] <Freedomzen> drasko, easy on the flood
[07:25] <cindux> typed, sudo /boot/grub/menu/lst
[07:25] <drasko> Freedomzen, sorry
[07:25] <cindux> .1st*
[07:26] <Freedomzen> cindux, type sudo passwd in a console
[07:26] <Freedomzen> when prompt for a password enter one you will remember
[07:26] <cindux> enter new password = /
[07:26] <Freedomzen> yes
[07:26] <cindux> i have a password
[07:26] <cindux> :(
[07:26] <Freedomzen> ok
[07:26] <Freedomzen> for su?
[07:27] <cindux> yep
[07:27] <Freedomzen> ok
[07:27] <Freedomzen> go root
[07:27] <cindux> k
[07:27] <Pinguvin> how can i add a line to /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[07:27] <Freedomzen> then nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:27] <Freedomzen> Pinguvin, type it in
[07:27] <cindux> got it
[07:27] <drasko> Pinguvin, nano the file
[07:27] <Freedomzen> cindux, ok
[07:27] <Pinguvin> drasko: whats that?
[07:27] <drasko> Pinguvin, nano is the editor..
[07:27] <mjt> is nano the default editor on ubuntu?
[07:28] <Freedomzen> see the kernel line?
[07:28] <cindux> nope
[07:28] <drasko> Pinguvin, so say nano sources-list and edit the file
[07:28] <Dimbit> Pinguvin: "nano /etc/apt/sources.list" then edit it
[07:28] <Freedomzen> cindux, press the down arrow
[07:28] <Pinguvin> okey thank guys
[07:28] <Freedomzen> go down unitll you see ## ## End Default Options ##
[07:28] <Freedomzen> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-3-amd64-k8 Default
[07:28] <Freedomzen> root            (hd0,1)
[07:28] <Freedomzen> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdc2 ro console=tty0 quiet splash
[07:29] <Freedomzen> yours will be different
[07:29] <cindux> mine says title     linux
[07:29] <Dimbit> anyone know how to make xdm use kwin instead of metacity? I've spent ages installing kde but can't actually get to use it :/
[07:29] <cindux> ol
[07:29] <drasko> Pinguvin, btw. you have to be root to edit
[07:29] <Freedomzen> ok
[07:29] <Freedomzen> see the kernel line
[07:29] <cindux> kernel         /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
[07:29] <Freedomzen> ok
[07:29] <Pinguvin> drasko: root terminal then?
[07:29] <Linksman> webdav://idisk.mac.com/wabashprof/Documents/Appointments.ics
[07:29] <Linksman> webdav://idisk.mac.com/wabashprof/Documents/Birthdays.ics
[07:29] <Linksman> webdav://idisk.mac.com/wabashprof/Documents/Classes.ics
[07:29] <Freedomzen> at the end of theat put acpi=off
[07:29] <drasko> Pinguvin, yep.. or do su
[07:29] <cindux> = /
[07:30] <Pinguvin> okey dokey
[07:30] <cindux> hm lol
[07:30] <Linksman> sorry about that everybody
[07:30] <Freedomzen> cindux, ?
[07:30] <cindux> im a moron :D
[07:30] <Freedomzen> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdc2 ro console=tty0 quiet splash acpi=off
[07:30] <Pinguvin> java is a pain in the ass!
[07:31] <Freedomzen> brb
[07:31] <mjt> btw, does it work at all? I mean, will it work without editing the grub.conf?
[07:31] <cindux> ok, here's my line.
[07:31] <cindux> # kernel        /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro console=tty0 quiet splash acpi=off
[07:32] <mjt> it was quite some time ago when i last saw a prob with acpi
[07:32] <drasko> Pinguvin, why?
[07:32] <Linksman> I have a question about choosing wireless access points in Ubuntu.
[07:32] <Pinguvin> drasko: cause its so hard to install
[07:33] <drasko> Pinguvin, yes... and no - what are you installing?
[07:33] <davix> what is the hoary package for flash plugin for firefox?
[07:33] <Pinguvin> drasko, sun java i think
[07:34] <cindux> brb
[07:34] <membreya> davix: 32 or 64bit? ;)
[07:35] <Gollie> quicky - the warty LiveCD doesn't support installation onto HDD?
[07:35] <mjg59> Correct
[07:35] <davix> membreya, er:)
[07:35] <cindux> quit fiddling with the live cd :P
[07:35] <cindux> it always made both my pcs lag way more than ubuntu on the hdd
[07:36] <Gollie> bah - my 2K installs crashed, and there's only 1 CD drive on the PC - bit difficult to download and burn :S
[07:36] <drasko> Pinguvin, ok... url: http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/DEV/Java+on+Debian
[07:37] <mjg59> Is there anyone here running on an Acer laptop?
[07:37] <Pinguvin> drasko: thanks
[07:37] <membreya> hrm...did a mount -a after adding my windows partition to fstab and it doesnt show up in "computer" ..yet I can browse all the files
[07:39] <hybrid0> what is a small fast desktop enviroment
[07:39] <NaosZ> Greetings all knowing most paitent ones
[07:39] <hybrid0> lol
[07:40] <NaosZ> noob requires help with a failure to load x-server issue
[07:40] <drasko> NaosZ, say
[07:41] <davix> what is the hoary package for flash plugin for firefox?
[07:42] <NaosZ> you see I'm a real noob with ubuntu/linux and without a GUI im pretty much lost not knowing linux commands and such
[07:42] <vi11e> hmm is there some 'reliable' cd/dvd-burner for ubuntu hoary ?
[07:42] <hybrid0> NaosZ do you kno dos?
[07:42] <NaosZ> erm... was some time ago I used it and not very often tbh
[07:43] <hybrid0> well do you kno the basic/common commands?
[07:43] <NaosZ> yeah (me thinks...) :/
[07:44] <hybrid0> ok well ls == dir  lsof == netstat cd == cd
[07:44] <tweek888> why isnt wine listed in the synaptic packedges when winetools& winelibs are?
[07:44] <hybrid0> tweek888 add wine.sourceforge.net to ur repos
[07:45] <tweek888> i have
[07:45] <NaosZ> ..k
[07:45] <hybrid0> then it should be there
[07:45] <tweek888> =\
[07:45] <hybrid0> NaosZ ; if you want help with a command type man command
[07:45] <hybrid0> instead of command /?
[07:45] <hybrid0> ie man ls
[07:46] <Gollie> anyone tried Ubuntu with colinux?
[07:46] <hybrid0> o_0
[07:46] <NaosZ> hmm ty
[07:46] <hybrid0> np
[07:46] <hybrid0> need anything else juss ask
[07:47] <vi11e> helllo, is there some cd/dvd-burning softwares in apt-get??
[07:47] <tweek888> there isnt a way to jsut download and compile wine myself is there?
[07:47] <Hwolf> ville, loads
[07:47] <vi11e> Hwolf, could you name one that is reliable
[07:47] <hybrid0> ve11e apt-cache search cd dvd burner
[07:47] <vi11e> that does not have so much bugs.. or have some stable version :P
[07:47] <hybrid0> *8vi11e
[07:47] <Hwolf>  ville: no
[07:48] <vi11e> thanks hybrid0 , any suggestions tho?
[07:48] <Hwolf> ville: the basic stuff I do, nautilus handles fine
[07:48] <mebaran> My alsa suddenly stopped working
[07:48] <hybrid0> umm I heard cd parinioa is good
[07:48] <mebaran> even though all the modulst are loaded
[07:48] <hybrid0> how eva u spell it
[07:48] <vi11e> how do I stop my "blank cd" process with this integrated cd/dvd-burner thing.... I think it froze and is still 'blanking' the disc ?
[07:48] <mebaran> hybrid0, I think that is the backend to nautilus
[07:49] <hybrid0> mebaran i believe it is
[07:49] <vi11e> I want something that is not based on that nautilus since I am having major problem erasin rewritable with it :X
[07:49] <hybrid0> oo ok
[07:50] <mebaran> well you might have trouble
[07:50] <mebaran> most cd burners out there are based on cdparanoia
[07:50] <mebaran> I think
[07:50] <mebaran> K3b is
[07:50] <mebaran> I just did a reinstall of Array-4 on AMD64
[07:51] <mebaran> suddenly
[07:51] <mebaran> Evolution works
[07:51] <mebaran> but alsa doesnt
[07:51] <mebaran> anybody got any ideas
[07:51] <ssamf> isnt graveman the new cd burner that people like
[07:51] <vi11e> hmm
[07:51] <mebaran> never heard of it
[07:51] <ulas2> i have no sounndddddd
[07:51] <ulas2> but i love hoaryyyyy
[07:51] <hybrid0> ssamf is it based on natilus tho
[07:51] <ulas2> what should i dooooo
[07:52] <hybrid0> haave you tried apt-get update
[07:52] <LinuxJones> gnomebaker looks like it is really going to be awesome
[07:52] <vi11e> well I guess that nautilus erased the disc after all... I opened a system monitor and I saw cdrecord there as "uninterruptible' operation. then suddenly it disappeared there and console says "cdrecord: caught interrupted... but it seems the cd is blank... weird... probably by opening the system monitor I woke the process up... it was blanking it for like 15-20mins :P
[07:53] <vi11e> but always when I start processes with cdrecord it says they have some problems with kernels newer than 2.5
[07:54] <vi11e> so It are weirdz that you don have anny problam
[07:54] <ulas2> hybrid0, did you recommend update to me?
[07:54] <hybrid0> yes
[07:54] <ssamf> there were nasty audio cd writing bugs around kernel 2.6.8 i think
[07:54] <mebaran> anyone have any idea on my Alsa problem
[07:54] <mebaran> Hoary
[07:54] <mebaran> array 4
[07:54] <ulas2> i think i did
[07:54] <hybrid0> and nothing?
[07:54] <ulas2> mebaran, what kind of alsa problems
[07:54] <mebaran> AMD64 and all modules loaded
[07:54] <mebaran> I dont get any sounds
[07:55] <mebaran> the devices are loaded
[07:55] <hybrid0> dang thats 3 of us
[07:55] <mebaran> and the alsa daemon is loaded successfully
[07:55] <vjaz> Anyone registered in LaunchPad (http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/) recently? I'm having trouble with the registration url that I got in email.
[07:55] <ulas2> hybrid0, not a beep
[07:55] <mebaran> I get computer beeps
[07:55] <mebaran> I think it is a weird mixer thing
[07:55] <hybrid0> hmm i am having the same problem ulas2
[07:55] <mebaran> but suddenly Evolution works
[07:55] <ulas2> mebaran, different machine same problem...
[07:55] <SiRrUs> have you tried xmms
[07:55] <mebaran> hmm
[07:55] <mebaran> what archi are you on
[07:55] <hybrid0> i cant even get gnome to load but in fail safe
[07:55] <ulas2> 686
[07:56] <mebaran> gnome loads for me fine
[07:56] <SiRrUs> mebaran have you tried xmms
[07:56] <hybrid0> i am on ppc
[07:56] <mebaran> gdm wont make any noises
[07:56] <mebaran> eiter
[07:56] <ulas2> everything but sound is ok for me...
[07:56] <mebaran> yeah me too
[07:56] <hybrid0> hoary == the real sid
[07:56] <mebaran> Ubuntu is rather odd
[07:56] <hybrid0> yea
[07:56] <ulas2> everything seems to be working on the alsa side..
[07:56] <mebaran> upgrades dont bring you up to the current array
[07:56] <hybrid0> but i still love it
[07:57] <mebaran> as my evolution
[07:57] <ulas2> hybrid0, it is the best i use..
[07:57] <mebaran> has been borked since day one
[07:57] <mebaran> a new install
[07:57] <mebaran> and voila
[07:57] <mebaran> it works
[07:57] <hybrid0> ulas2 me to
[07:57] <Bandit> SiRrUs seems as tho mebaran is ignoring you
[07:57] <brazza> what is it with that 1024 cilinder limit?
[07:57] <SiRrUs> yeah well sucks to be him
[07:57] <mebaran> Bandit? huh
[07:57] <mebaran> SiRus
[07:57] <mebaran> sorry
[07:58] <mebaran> I didnt see what you put
[07:58] <mebaran> ahh it scrolled out
[07:58] <mebaran> I am trying XMMS now
[07:58] <ulas2> lets find jeff and cry him to fix alsa thing....
[07:58] <SiRrUs> what is your output plugin?
[07:58] <ulas2> mebaran, wont work.. beleive me...
[07:59] <SiRrUs> Player: ( xmms 1.2.10 ) Volume: ( 100% ) Title: ( Henry Gross - Shannon ) Time: ( 2:31/3:52 (65%) ) BitRate: ( 128 kbit/s - 44100 Hz )
[07:59] <SiRrUs> hmmm xmms seems to work fine for me on hoary
[07:59] <hybrid0> does anyone use matchbox with hoary?
[07:59] <ulas2> hmmmm
[07:59] <mebaran> I will try xmms
[07:59] <mebaran> SiRrUs, do you get system sounds
[07:59] <mebaran> and gdm sounds
[07:59] <SiRrUs> yep
[08:00] <SiRrUs> mebaran now i asked you a question
[08:00] <mebaran> it is installing
[08:00] <mebaran> XMMS
[08:00] <mebaran> sorry
[08:00] <ulas2> mebaran, i tried beep-mp but no lucl which is xmms also...
[08:01] <mebaran> my connection is a tad sluggish
[08:01] <SiRrUs> ah ok let me know when you get it installed
[08:01] <ulas2> mebaran, please let me know if you get lucky...
[08:01] <brazza> any1 knows the 1024 BIOS limit when dual booting?
[08:01] <SiRrUs> ulas2 what is your output plugin
[08:01] <SiRrUs> in xmms
[08:01] <andrewski> is it possible to use wine to install windows?
[08:02] <ulas2> to install windows?
[08:02] <ulas2> why dou you need it.
[08:02] <andrewski> or does it need windows libraries to run?
[08:02] <aassss> how do i set root pass?, something like su -c -S ?
[08:03] <ulas2> sudo passwd root ?
[08:03] <zenrox> yep
[08:03] <mebaran> SiRu
[08:03] <mebaran> S
[08:03] <mebaran> XMMS is damn sexy now
[08:03] <mebaran> but unfortunately is it seen but not heard
[08:03] <aassss> ulas2: dosent work.
[08:03] <mebaran> no sound for me
[08:03] <andrewski> mebaran: "now"?
[08:03] <mebaran> yeah
[08:03] <mebaran> on my old install
[08:03] <mebaran> from like a day ago
[08:03] <mebaran> all the fonts looked REALLY bad
[08:04] <mebaran> now they look presentable
[08:04] <SiRrUs> mebaran what is your sound output plugin
[08:04] <Sasib> Hello all!
[08:04] <mebaran> Alsa
[08:04] <maggi> hi
[08:04] <ulas2> aassss, why do you need a root pass
[08:04] <andrewski> mebaran: ah ok.  why don't you just type complete sentences in one post?
[08:04] <Gollie> any quick and easy way to add MP3 support to a warty liveCD?
[08:04] <ulas2> aassss, it is disablled on purpose...
[08:04] <mebaran> andrewski, very bad habit I picked up
[08:04] <aassss> ulas2: i dont want to use sudo...
[08:04] <andrewski> mebaran: yeah, you'll get kicked if you say too much. :)
[08:04] <aassss> ulas2: well, i know my way around linux... so i want root.
[08:04] <SiRrUs> mebaran try changing it to eSound
[08:04] <mebaran> ok I will try to do better
[08:05] <davix> aassss, if you'd know your way around google you could easily get root.
[08:05] <maggi> hehe
[08:05] <aassss> gahhhhhhhhhh
[08:05] <andrewski> mebaran: sorry, i just meant that you'll get auto-kicked for flooding; i don't have any control over kicking anyone. :)
[08:05] <ulas2> aassss, then sudo passwd root must work
[08:05] <davix> aassss, i'll tip you that, there is no root pass and once you set it, you can access root.
[08:05] <SiRrUs> aassss sudo passwd root
[08:05] <mebaran> ok I will try not to flood
[08:06] <SiRrUs> mebaran try changing it to eSound
[08:06] <Sasib> anyone help with an installation problem please?
[08:06] <ulas2> Sasib, shoot
[08:06] <andrewski> Sasib: ask first and we'll see. :P
[08:06] <davix> Sasib, what is the problem?
[08:06] <Sasib> tried twice but always disables the GUI
[08:06] <mebaran> SiRuS, tried that, no dice
[08:06] <andrewski> lol
[08:07] <davix> yeah
[08:07] <davix> tried twice...
[08:07] <ulas2> Sasib, disables the GUI.. please describe more
[08:07] <davix> what did you try twice?
[08:07] <EE`Lindo> Does anyone know if the Hoary array 5 will be released tomorrow ?
[08:07] <aassss> SiRrUs: it asks for root pw then,
[08:07] <jono> hi all
[08:07] <Sasib> installation goes fine until it tries to initialize the GUI
[08:07] <andrewski> hi jono
[08:07] <tweek_> how do i start ssh fopr my freind to help me?
[08:07] <tweek_> for*
[08:08] <jono> is anyone else still having problems with the GNOME System Tools networking applet?
[08:08] <SiRrUs> and then you create a password
[08:08] <ulas2> aassss, you just enter your users password
[08:08] <jono> hey andrewski :)
[08:08] <andrewski> tweek_: there's a good/quick howto on ubuntuguide.org
[08:08] <davix> mjt, where can you look for this?
[08:08] <tweek_> thanksyou
[08:08] <ulas2> aassss, like you sudo
[08:08] <andrewski> jono: what problems?
[08:08] <ulas2> aassss, then enter your new password for root and voila
[08:08] <Sasib> then says it cant start the GUI, please troubleshoot
[08:08] <davix> mjt?
[08:08] <mjt> davix: /var/log/auth.log
[08:08] <EE`Lindo> Does anyone know if the Hoary array 5 will be released tomorrow ?
[08:09] <hybrid_> what is an alterative desktop enviroment
[08:09] <Sasib> puts me into text prompt, which is tottally new in linux for me
[08:09] <jono> andrewski, it just wont connect the network sometimes, and when I select a profile it takes ages before it times out - it is *very* unstable it seems
[08:09] <andrewski> hybrid_: alternative to gnome?
[08:09] <ulas2> Sasib, you are irc ing from windows right now?
[08:09] <davix> tnx mjt
[08:09] <Sasib> yes
[08:09] <andrewski> jono: wireless?
[08:09] <brazza> anyone has an solution for my boot problem?
[08:09] <hybrid_> andrewski yes and kde
[08:09] <jono> andrewski, yep
[08:09] <raydogg> how come tightvnc can't get my desktop ?
[08:09] <dejavu> how can i get my webcam get detected on ubuntu ?
[08:09] <andrewski> hybrid_: well, if you like gtk (who doesn't?! ;) i'd try xfce.
[08:09] <raydogg> it always wants to server up a seperate desktop
[08:09] <raydogg> like ip:1
[08:09] <hybrid_> ok
[08:10] <raydogg> instead of :0
[08:10] <andrewski> jono: how's your signal?
[08:10] <hybrid_> andrewski  can i apt-get it?
[08:10] <andrewski> hybrid_: there's a repository of the 4.2 (latest) version on os-works.com
[08:10] <andrewski> hybrid_: use that rep and you can. :)
[08:10] <andrewski> hybrid_: the versions (even in hoary) for ubuntu are way out-of-date.
[08:11] <hybrid_> oo ok
[08:11] <dejavu> how can i get my webcam get detected on ubuntu ?
[08:11] <andrewski> jono?
[08:11] <Sasib> figuring its not picking up the vid card properly
[08:11] <jono> andrewski, signal is fine, ubuntu (warty) on my powerbook conencts fine
[08:11] <Sasib> dunno how to reslove in command prompt
[08:12] <andrewski> jono: what does iwconfig say?
[08:12] <ssamf> ee'lindo there have not been many new packages today, so that could be a sign of array 5 being readied
[08:13] <mebaran> anyone else have any ideas?
[08:13] <Sasib> anyone help with an installation problem please?
[08:13] <ssamf> but i may mean nothing
[08:13] <jono> andrewski, I get  IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"belkin54g" on my first line
[08:13] <hikaru79> I'm trying to use FreeNX on ubuntu, but my client (Windows XP) is saying it can't authenticate the user. The forum says that to fix this, I have to give it an "SSH Host Key"... where can I find this SSH host key?
[08:13] <EE`Lindo> ok thx ssamf
[08:13] <EE`Lindo> :)
[08:13] <jono> when I cant connect it says unassociated
[08:13] <andrewski> jono: look under "link quality"
[08:13] <SiRrUs> ssamf it may mean its a Sunday :) or at least here anyway
[08:13] <andrewski> jono: but only if it's connected.
[08:13] <cindux> anyone know how to tell if your moo has ACPI
[08:13] <ssamf> true
[08:13] <mebaran> it told me the mixer timed out
[08:14] <jono> andrewski, where is that?
[08:14] <andrewski> jono: sixth line.
[08:14] <ssamf> but do the devs work a normal style week? or do ubuntu stuff in free time
[08:14] <jono> andrewski, Link Quality=74/100  Signal level=-58 dBm  Noise level=-88 dBm
[08:15] <ulas2> mebaran, i have a strong bad feeling about this but i think  i will compile alsa drivers from source... what do you think...
[08:15] <andrewski> jono: ok, signal looks fine.  what are your essid/wep settings? (in general, don't post your passwords)
[08:15] <mebaran> I was considering that too
[08:15] <mebaran> I dont think it could be that bad
[08:15] <mebaran> worst comes to worst I just reload the system
[08:15] <mebaran> let us make a suicide pact :)
[08:16] <ulas2> mebaran, yep yep ok. you tried the xmms i will put my hand under the stone now.. i ll do it...
[08:16] <mebaran> but how do you do it
[08:16] <hikaru79> I'm trying to use FreeNX on ubuntu, but my client (Windows XP) is saying it can't authenticate the user. The forum says that to fix this, I have to give it an "SSH Host Key"... where can I find this SSH host key?
[08:16] <mebaran> I used to just use alsa conf
[08:16] <Pinguvin> hi guys! im trying to install Azereus but i get an error
[08:16] <Pinguvin> $ sudo tar jxvf Azureus_<IP_ADDRESS>_linux.GTK.tar.bz2 -C /opt/
[08:16] <Pinguvin> bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
[08:16] <Pinguvin> tar: Child returned status 2
[08:16] <Pinguvin> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[08:16] <ulas2> mebaran, wait for me... ill help you out...
[08:17] <cindux> lol
[08:17] <narkceh> hello. how to run fxc4
[08:18] <mebaran> cool
[08:18] <narkceh> hello. how to run xfce4
[08:18] <cindux> one stupid question, when I update my BIOS & say i reformatted etc
[08:18] <cindux> i wont have to do it again ?
[08:18] <narkceh> i have deleted gnome and installed fxc4 and when i run startx it opens gnome, why?
[08:19] <hikaru79> Can ANYONE please tell me what an SSH host key is? >_<
[08:19] <YankDownUnder> If you've installed XFce, all you need to run to start it is: startxfce
[08:20] <YankDownUnder> SSH key is a security certificate. Just accept it.
[08:20] <ssamf> man ssh should explain
[08:20] <YankDownUnder> narkceh: Did you get that?
[08:21] <cindux> could someone help with ACPI?
[08:21] <Lucien> No.
[08:21] <cindux> :(
[08:21] <cindux> ah come on lol
[08:21] <Lucien> I use Windows again. Waiting for the hoary release.
[08:21] <cindux> im running ubuntu ><
[08:21] <Lucien> :P
[08:21] <hikaru79> YankDownUnder, I'm trying to run a FreeNX server from Ubuntu and from my test client (Windows XP), it keeps saying that authentication failed and the forum is saying I have to give it the "SSH host key"... any ideas? :(
[08:21] <YankDownUnder> cindux: What's the issue?
[08:21] <Dreamer3> Lucien: i broke that habit long ago :)
[08:21] <Dreamer3> Lucien: though it took numerous attemps
[08:22] <cindux> Well whenever I shutdown i simply get ACPI off right after POwer Down
[08:22] <cindux> but nothing happens
[08:22] <hikaru79> And yes I DID use --nomachine-key
[08:22] <YankDownUnder> hikaru79: THAT bit I wouldn't even beging to understand my friend
[08:22] <cindux> and when i turn it off manually my start up lags
[08:22] <hikaru79> I see =/
[08:22] <cindux> someone said i should add acpi=on somewhere?
[08:22] <cindux> in menu.lst
[08:22] <cindux> but i dont know where to add it, nor where menu.lst actually is
[08:22] <YankDownUnder> cindux: You'd have to set acpi=on in the /etc/lilo.conf then re-run lilo
[08:22] <Lucien> Haha, I think Windows Xp Professional is a great alternative for Ubuntu.
[08:22] <Lucien> But I will switch back.
[08:23] <cindux> = /
[08:23] <cindux> SO it can't be done from menu.lst ?
[08:23] <Lucien> I am sick and tired of patching every piece of software I download; and by that I mean 'patching' ;-).
[08:23] <YankDownUnder> cindux: Edit the /etc/lilo.conf and for the default kernel settings, add the acpi=on in there, then run /sbin/lilo and reboot
[08:23] <YankDownUnder> cindux: Better by hand
[08:23] <clark> I'm trying to get php to work with mysql--i have everything installed and phpinfo() says --with-mysql, but php says "no such function" if I try mysql_connect(). anybody know what I'm missing?
[08:23] <Gul3> hi, can someone help me reinsatll grub? i've installed winXP after linux so now i can't boot into linux. i'm on ubuntu live now
[08:24] <cindux> i dont know where to add it lol :(
[08:24] <andrewski> jono: you still want help?
[08:24] <mebaran> I am going to try the latest CDImage
[08:24] <mebaran> maybe it got fixed
[08:25] <Gul3> someone?
[08:25] <YankDownUnder> cindux: If you open the /etc/lilo.conf in an editor (gedit or simiar) you will find a place underneath your kernel settings that says "append" => that is where you can add the acpi=on parameter => then after you've added that and saved the file, run "lilo" as root and then reboot
[08:26] <xadas> msttcorefonts missing in ubuntu?
[08:26] <dejavu> has anyone tried playing COUNTER-STRIKE on his linux box ?
[08:26] <dejavu> has anyone tried playing COUNTER-STRIKE on his linux box ?
[08:26] <andrewski> xadas: ubuntuguide.org has a quick howto
[08:26] <njan> dejavu, NO
[08:26] <njan> dejavu, NO
[08:27] <njan> :)
[08:27] <clark> Any UAMP (Ubuntu Apache MySQL PHP) experts out there?
[08:27] <ziggity> hi. how do I install mono on ubuntu
[08:27] <andrewski> ziggity: did you search synaptic/apt-get for mono?
[08:27] <xadas> andrewski thx
[08:27] <andrewski> xadas: no problem!
[08:27] <tritium> andrewski, what version of windows do you want to install?
[08:27] <andrewski> tritium: xp
[08:27] <ziggity> yes, and - got only got the api
[08:28] <andrewski> tritium: and i'd rather not boot out of ubuntu :D
[08:28] <tritium> andrewski, qemu can install some versions.  XP still has some trouble
[08:28] <tritium> andrewski, what programs do you need from windows?
[08:28] <andrewski> tritium: ok, but IYO is it worth a shot?
[08:28] <tritium> andrewski, you can always try it, I guess.
[08:29] <andrewski> tritium: a few utilities for work.
[08:29] <tritium> andrewski, Or, you could install wine .deb from sourceforge and winetools
[08:29] <andrewski> tritium: i have wine installed already; i don't need windows installed?
[08:30] <graham> anybody here use a dial up connection, configured with pppconfig?
[08:30] <hawkman> Can you have different desktop background in different desktops with Gnome in Ubuntu ?
[08:30] <tritium> andrewski, it's possible that those utilities you mentioned will work under wine without needing to install windows
[08:30] <njan> hawkman, afaik gnome doesn't do that (tm)
[08:30] <andrewski> tritium: ah, nice.  man wine?
[08:30] <Pinguvin> can anyone help me install azureus please?
[08:30] <andrewski> Pinguvin: what's the trouble?
[08:31] <hawkman> hmm I was sure I saw it in Gnome in FC or MDK last time I used linux on the laptop... I usually don't run KDE :) oh well.
[08:31] <xadas> andrewski: do u know what repository contains msttcorefonts?
[08:31] <tritium> andrewski, you might see this: http://www.winehq.com/site/howto
[08:31] <andrewski> xadas: not for sure, but i think it's multiverse or universe.
[08:31] <narkceh> YankDownUnder: thanks
[08:31] <Gul3> how do i reinstall grub after installing winxp?
[08:31] <Gul3> please
[08:32] <ziggity> tritium, Whats wine?
[08:32] <andrewski> ziggity: Wine Is Not an Emulator
[08:32] <Gul3> i don't quite understand the man pages (generally)
[08:32] <mebaran> Anybody here having ALSA problems on Array 4
[08:33] <YankDownUnder> No one understands MAN pages completely.
[08:33] <Pinguvin> andrewski: im trying to do this but it wont work ->> sudo tar jxvf Azureus_<IP_ADDRESS>_linux.GTK.tar.bz2 -C /opt/
[08:33] <Gul3> lol
[08:33] <andrewski> Pinguvin: why don't you just install from the ubuntu repositories?
[08:33] <ziggity> ok. so when the synaptic manager is done with updating - how do I find the applications
[08:33] <tritium> andrewski, thanks for catching that :)
[08:33] <Gul3> but do someone know how to reinstall grub?
[08:33] <tritium> ziggity, sorry, I'm distracted right now :)
[08:33] <hikaru79> Can someone who knows their way around FreeNX *please* help me figure out why it keeps failing authentication? >__<
[08:34] <andrewski> ziggity: find what applications?
[08:34] <Pinguvin> andrewski, i can install it from synaptic?
[08:34] <andrewski> Pinguvin: i'm pretty sure; i don't know why it wouldn't be in there.
[08:34] <clark> Gul3: take a look at http://www.desktop-linux.net/grub.htm
[08:34] <ziggity> andrewski, mono
[08:34] <Gul3> clark: thanks mate
[08:34] <vi11e> Pinguvin you can, you should read ubuntuguide.org , there is a guide to install it with apt-get which is simpler than installing with synaptic
[08:34] <andrewski> ziggity: search for mono in name and description? ;P
[08:35] <Pinguvin> ville, i alreadt tried whats on that site, but it didnt work
[08:35] <vi11e> I mean there is a guide with apt-get in console.. which is same as synaptic
[08:35] <vi11e> what did it say
[08:35] <ziggity> andrewski,  I found it .. Marked it for updating and applied it. It did the download and update.. BUT i don't know where it is??
[08:35] <Pinguvin> ville, that was not apt-get though
[08:36] <andrewski> ziggity: me either; i don't know what it installs.
[08:36] <Pinguvin> ville and andrewski: nevermind it works now
[08:36] <ziggity> any one use the synaptic manager to load Mono
[08:36] <andrewski> ziggity: use dpkg -c <name of mono package> to see what it installs.
[08:37] <gma_> does anybody else use pppconfig?
[08:38] <ziggity> andrewski, : : Where do I use this
[08:38] <andrewski> ziggity: in a terminal
[08:39] <cblack> lo folks
[08:39] <cblack> hmm. gotta love the onjoin spam. heh.
[08:39] <andrewski> cblack: i've just gotten some spam too; is there any way to report it or something?
[08:40] <clark> anybody know how to make php work with mysql? I've looked at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7659.html but it doesn't help b/c i'm already using apache2
[08:40] <cblack> andrewski, probably some netops in #freenode.
[08:40] <ubernoob> How is it with Warty and Horay? I know that warty is the stable version... But will Horay become stable after a while, and then use Grumpy for unstable? Or will Horay always be the unstable test-release? And stable stuff from Horay will then be moved over to Warty?
[08:41] <cblack> ubernoob, hoary will become stable.
[08:41] <jelte> hi there. I'm trying to install XP next to my already running ubuntu, but windows is being .... (fill in the blank) since it needs to be on the first partition. Can I move my empty partition to the 'front' for it?
[08:41] <cblack> jelte, i don't believe so, no.
[08:42] <gma> I used pppconfig to config my dial up. chat and pppd worked fine. Then one day I upgraded my packages and chat was no longer used; wvdial was mysteriously being launched in it's place. very weird, and a bit irritating as it wasn't configured and didn't work. anybody heard of that happening to anybody else?
[08:43] <benjanet> how do i install a gnome desktop theme ?
[08:43] <gma> and some fool keeps msg-ing me asking me to join #Albania. is that normal round these parts?
[08:43] <andrewski> benjanet: lila-theme.uni.cc :)
[08:43] <andrewski> gma: no.
[08:43] <andrewski> gma: but the netops know about it.
[08:43] <ziggity> ok,... so exactly do I install this mono ide thing on ubuntu?
[08:44] <gma> andrewski, thanks. any idea how to disable the popup in xchat?
[08:44] <andrewski> ziggity: well, if the package is installed, you should be good to go if you can figure out which files it installs.
[08:44] <pepsi> i have to disable DRI when using nvidia's drivers right?
[08:45] <andrewski> gma: i dunno, i'm just leaving them open until the loser gets kicked.
[08:45] <YankDownUnder> pepsi: Yer supposed to....
[08:45] <ziggity> I expected to find it in the Programming section of the main menu, but its not there
[08:45] <YankDownUnder> Far out...now I'm getting the #albania pop-ups....dang...
[08:45] <andrewski> ziggity: h/o a sec...
[08:45] <YankDownUnder> Doggone IRC bots....
[08:45] <benjanet> andrewski, is there a generic instruction set for installing a theme ?
[08:46] <andrewski> benjanet: not that i know of, you can just download the theme and untar it to .themes (or .icons for icon themes)
[08:46] <duckdown> Hey all.. This is weird; I just installed array4 but forgot to pick EXPERT mode
[08:46] <gma> benjanet, do you have a tar.gz of the theme? if so you can just drag and drop it into the themes dialog.
[08:46] <duckdown> and i created my own user, and thats fine
[08:46] <duckdown> but I cant login root!
[08:46] <duckdown> I didnt set a root PW during install
[08:46] <pepsi> YankDownUnder, disable GLCore too eh?
[08:47] <YankDownUnder> pepsi: Nah
[08:47] <duckdown> You guys have an ONJOINER in here... KB "Colonia"
[08:47] <gma> duckdown, and Diana
[08:47] <duckdown> ughh..
[08:47] <duckdown> :]
[08:47] <benjanet> gma, thanks..worked
[08:47] <andrewski> ziggity: in synaptic, right-click on the package, go to properties and go to "installed files"
[08:47] <YankDownUnder> Diana and Colonia
[08:48] <andrewski> ziggity: look for anything in /usr/bin in particular...
[08:48] <duckdown> Is there a DEFAULT root pw that it is set to during install? ARRAY4 didn't ask for me to set one! I can only log-in as the user I created during installation
[08:48] <pepsi> oh crap.. thats why... nv isnt the nvidia driver
[08:48] <pepsi> nvidia is
[08:48] <YankDownUnder> pepsi: Yeah mate
[08:48] <pepsi> hehe
[08:48] <pepsi> oopsies :D
[08:48] <ljlane> duckdown, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root
[08:49] <andrewski> so what's in #albania?
[08:49] <duckdown> andrewski: terrorists
[08:49] <duckdown> ljlane: ill check it, thanks
[08:49] <andrewski> duckdown: run and hide!
[08:49] <duckdown> andrewski: lol :D
[08:49] <duckdown> ljlane: ACK I have no web browser
[08:49] <andrewski> seriously... anyone know?  i'm curious....
[08:49] <duckdown> and I'm as 'duckdown' not root
[08:50] <ljlane> There are a couple of smapbots in here, Colonia and Diana. Somebody please dispatch them.
[08:50] <hikaru79> Can someone who knows their way around FreeNX *please* help me figure out why it keeps failing authentication? >__<
[08:50] <hikaru79> I've been begging for over an hour...
[08:50] <ljlane> duckdown: short story, "sudo command" and use your user password
[08:50] <gma> ljlane, I just added them to my ignore list. hopefully that'll fix 'em.
[08:51] <andrewski> hikaru79: maybe no one knows their way around freenx? :)
[08:51] <Lindo> hmmm no ops in here :/
[08:51] <hikaru79> :(
[08:51] <hikaru79> i was trying not to consider that possibility ^ ^;
[08:51] <Lindo> omg annoying
[08:51] <Lindo> (Diana) Hi Lindo Join #Albania Ok This Is Good Channels ok Lindo Thank You Lindo
[08:51] <duckdown> ljlane: ahh, i just read it.. cool.. so technically I could leave root disabled permanently?
[08:52] <hikaru79> Yup =I(
[08:52] <duckdown> Lindo:  yeah
[08:52] <hikaru79> I keep getting that too
[08:52] <hikaru79> From Colonia and Diana
[08:52] <YankDownUnder> duckdown: Don't disable root
[08:52] <Lindo> every time you type anything in here
[08:52] <ljlane> duckdown, yes. "sudo -s" will open a root shell.
[08:52] <flowerss> how do you enable sshd on ubuntu?
[08:52] <hikaru79> Just ban them I guess =/
[08:52] <duckdown> YankDownUnder: its disabled by default during install.. you can just do sudo with the administrative user you created no?
[08:52] <hikaru79> flowerss, it's turned on automatically once you intall it
[08:53] <raydogg> if ubuntu detected a wireless card, but fails when you try to "activate" it, what could the possible problems be ?
[08:53] <YankDownUnder> duckdown: yah - just open a root termina as well - once Gnome has started....
[08:53] <YankDownUnder> *terminal*
[08:53] <njan> raydogg, what sort of wireless card is it?:
[08:53] <duckdown> :>
[08:53] <raydogg> dlink
[08:53] <flowerss> hikaru79, oops, I just figured it would be installed by default.  Thanks
[08:53] <andrewski> gma: how do you add the spammers to your ignore list?
[08:54] <raydogg> njan, dlink
[08:54] <njan> raydogg, model no.?
[08:54] <raydogg> one sec
[08:54] <YankDownUnder> andrewski: if you're using Xchat, right click the user and choose IGNORE
[08:54] <gma> andrewski, I went Window->Ignore List, then added the bastard's user@ip-address to the list
[08:54] <ziggity> andrewski, Then what?
[08:54] <gma> andrewski, It's just been proven to not work.
[08:54] <gma> arse
[08:55] <njan> Is anyone else here getting spammed  by Colonia?
[08:55] <YankDownUnder> njan: Just put them on your IGNORE list
[08:55] <Lindo> ignore works for me
[08:55] <ljlane> njan, and Diana
[08:55] <andrewski> ziggity: run anything in /usr/bin... i don't really know, but you could probably ask on #mono
[08:55] <njan> YankDownUnder, have done.
[08:55] <njan> I'd just rather they get kicked to prevent them doing it to other people :)
[08:55] <raydogg> njan, dlink dwlg650
[08:56] <clark> nobody has any ideas on how to use mysql with php4?
[08:56] <ziggity> andrewski, is there #mono???
[08:56] <andrewski> ziggity: yup.
[08:57] <gma> Lindo, what do you type to ignore them? I tried<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:57] <raydogg> njan, did you get that model number? ( dwlg650 )
[08:58] <njan> raydogg, there are a few cards released with that model number, and it looks like most of them don't support linux
[08:58] <Lindo> im on mIRC i just right click em an presss ignore completely
[08:58] <raydogg> we've had it working in mandrake with madwifi drivers, will we need to do that here?
[08:58] <njan> raydogg, ah! You may be lucky then..
[08:58] <njan> raydogg, the ubuntu installer should support atheros/madwifi chips..
[08:59] <gma> Lindo, good idea, didn't think of that. job is a good'un
[08:59] <njan> raydogg, so if you're having problems, I'm not sure what the issue'll be :(
[08:59] <raydogg> well, it detects it, acts like it is configuring it, but hangs on activation
[08:59] <njan> raydogg, is this during installation or post?
[08:59] <raydogg> after
[08:59] <pepsi> YankDownUnder, there we go... 1600x1200 works right now :)
[09:00] <Lindo> gma huh ? :p
[09:00] <mpq> could it hurt my laptop if I tried to clean the top of the lid with soap?
[09:00] <ren0> Hi. I am a bit stuck. My usb sticks don't allow me to use them in read-write mode
[09:00] <mike998> mpq just be careful
[09:00] <duckdown> yeah 1600x1200 worked right out of the fresh install... with nv driver too, not even 'nvidia'
[09:01] <duckdown> nvidia is the correct one right
[09:01] <Lindo> depends where you let the water run mpq :P
[09:01] <Lindo> never did it to mine
[09:01] <mpq> I shouldn't even have to
[09:01] <diego> hi all
[09:01] <Lindo> lo
[09:01] <mpq> how do I ignore people who are PM spamming me?
[09:01] <duckdown> /ignore Colonia
[09:01] <duckdown> /ig Diana
[09:01] <mpq> lol
[09:01] <duckdown> if using irssi
[09:02] <gma> anybody else seen gnome-smproxy blocking the login for several minutes?
[09:02] <mike998> mpq: I would reccomend using a wet-nap to clean your laptop
[09:02] <mpq> would that get rid of sharpie?
[09:02] <duckdown> hahaha
[09:02] <Lindo> ...
[09:02] <duckdown> someone tagged you?
[09:02] <mike998> gotta love that ignore capability
[09:02] <duckdown> mike998: for sure
[09:02] <diego> ok my filesystem's not happy (reiser)...it says "Filesystem seems to have fatal corruptions. Running with --rebuild-tree is required" on boot. what should i do?
[09:03] <ren0> Sorry dropped out.   - works great
[09:09] <delltony> ok i have a question why do other users of linux knock ubuntu as being bad? i mean of course i'm new to linux and trying to learn but i don't see where it's bad at all it does pretty much what i want i want it to do. i just don't get why folks in say linuxhelp or whatever kinda shun down on ubuntu there must be a reason behind it
[09:09] <mike998> oh yeah...
[09:09] <hybrid_> no go to the store get them one of those $40 imac wannabes
[09:09] <YankDownUnder> Only Debian hardcore users beat up on Ubuntu
[09:09] <parazoid> I have an incredible annoying problem: I can?t play midi-files.
[09:09] <andrewski> parazoid: sound muted?
[09:10] <mike998> delltony: there is a distro for everyone... just because it doesn't suit your needs... in this world it tends to be that you become something to shout bad things about
[09:10] <parazoid> andrewski, nope
[09:10] <hybrid_> ubuntu ~= debian and debian user == @$$3$
[09:10] <mike998> heh - there's even room for windows in this world
[09:10] <delltony> well i mean i just don't get it i'm sure like them i could spend hours on end trying to get the thing to work but in all i come to the same conclusion do i not
[09:10] <maggi> I have only one problem with ubuntu. (I use it) I had to apt-get almost all gcc libraries and all stuff
[09:10] <duckdown> What should ~/.xinitrc say? I just did an apt-get install fluxbox... should it just say exec fluxbox?
[09:10] <delltony> or am i missing something
[09:10] <hybrid_> mike998 there is plenty room for windows but only on a house
[09:11] <andrewski> goodbye everyone!
[09:11] <mike998> lol - yeah... but in the computer world too... I have come to learn that there are people who want/need windows
[09:11] <mike998> hell, I use both - windows at work... Linux at home
[09:11] <delltony> well i just don't see what the big problem is with it other than the upgrade is gonna be painful for me probably
[09:11] <delltony> cause i have tried it in stage 4 and it borked
[09:11] <hybrid_> mike998 ; nah lindows or w/e it is now is a good windows replace meant
[09:12] <delltony> i just wanted to get away from m$
[09:12] <hybrid_> mike998 yea i have to use windows at school
[09:12] <mike998> hybrid_:If I could, I would probably use Ubuntu at work, but  because of some stuff I have to use, I am stuck with windows
[09:12] <AlphaXero> i grabbed thingeramik theme engine for gtk2 from synaptic, how do I apply this?
[09:14] <hybrid_> mike998 wine works miracles i tried to use a live cd at my school but our it guy has no idea what linux is and i got in trouble
[09:14] <hybrid_> :P
[09:14] <mike998> I'm stuck with some ActiveX crap and the other weird stuff my company uses
[09:14] <hybrid_> oo i c
[09:15] <mike998> hell, we got farked by MS not so long ago (the company itself) so I have no love for Billy boy
[09:15] <mike998> actually, I have *ahem* borrowed a copy of cedega to try it out... it's great, but I don't play games enough to keep it on my HDD so I think I will fall back to wine
[09:16] <hybrid_> mike998 my school is wierd they have an maac os x server teacher can work and all the client pc's are xp pro
[09:16] <hybrid_> lol
[09:16] <mike998> strange... what is it you do at school?
[09:16] <ren0> zenrox. Thanks worked for the one usb stick. I put another in. It comes up as /media/sdc
[09:16] <duckdown> fluxbox crashes like crazy
[09:16] <hybrid_> mike998 i am still in jr high
[09:16] <duckdown> blackbox owns though
[09:17] <farruinn> I have an interesting situation: I'm installing ubuntu on a B&W G3 and the installer recognizes the harddrive as being master on IDE3 and calls it hdc but Open Firmware sees it as ide1/@0:0. Anyone with more knowledge than me know what's going on?
[09:17] <mike998> ohh okay...
[09:17] <farruinn> I get kernel panics when trying to reboot and finish the installation
[09:17] <ren0> I can copy from sdc but not paste. Says it is read only
[09:17] <zenrox> ren0,  casue it detected a diferent stick so it mounted like its spost to
[09:17] <hybrid_> mike998 yea how many 14 yr olds use linux
[09:18] <mike998> true enough.  I am hoping my 7month old will be using linux as he grows up
[09:18] <maggi> http://www.b2.is/?sida=tengill&id=92309
[09:18] <ren0> When I first started using ubuntu it would just detect the sticks automatically..
[09:18] <hybrid_> mike998 it is funnie they need a new it man and all but the schooling and certification i am qualified
[09:18] <ren0> Without all this using commands. What has happened?
[09:18] <hybrid_> mike998 yea it is good to start them off good. i started with windows 95 rofl
[09:19] <mike998> understood.  I am nearly all self taught myself.  It's been a hard journey, though.
[09:19] <ren0> I have not recompiled the kernel or anything drastic.
[09:19] <Hannes_> hybrid_: I used when I was 14
[09:19] <paulproteus> maggi: I don't know Icelandic :)
[09:19] <hybrid_> mike998 i hear you
[09:19] <Hannes_> :P
[09:19] <paulproteus> (At least, I'm guessing that's Icelandic.)
[09:19] <blah09> evening, i have a question
[09:19] <blah09> can i use the livecd to upgrade warty to hoary?
[09:19] <hybrid_> Hannes_ awesome
[09:19] <paulproteus> blah09: The Live CD is not useful for installing.
[09:19] <mike998> heh... It's true, but in this day and age, it's best if they know how to use windows as well as linux
[09:19] <blah09> oh, it doesnt have the debs?
[09:19] <paulproteus> So, blah09, I'm afraid not.
[09:19] <Hannes_> first tried out in like -00
[09:20] <blah09> can i somehow download the debs from somewhere?
[09:20] <paulproteus> blah09: That's right.  Just the unpacked files, specially modified.
[09:20] <blah09> for someone with a 56k who wants to upgrade to hoary
[09:20] <paulproteus> blah09: You can change "warty" to "hoary" in your sources.list.
[09:20] <paulproteus> blah09: Oh. :)
[09:20] <blah09> =)
[09:20] <mike_douglas> I'm lucky when it comes to school, the IT admin doesn't know much about linux, but I'm given an entire lab to convert to Ubuntu and free range (as long as the lab works)
[09:20] <farruinn> blah09: you could get the hoary install cd and add that as an apt repository
[09:20] <hybrid_> Hannes_ i tried mandrake at 13 but didnt get to do much but then i got my on comp and put ubuntu on it
[09:20] <paulproteus> You can ask someone nicely to send you a CD.
[09:20] <blah09> is there a hoary install cd?
[09:20] <Neil3> mike_douglas, that's awesome
[09:21] <Hannes_> hybrid_: it was something based of RH
[09:21] <hybrid_> mike_douglass i would love to do that
[09:21] <Lindo> see topic blah09 XD
[09:21] <blah09> oh its an install cd too
[09:21] <mike_douglas> Neil3: ya, it's been a great learning experience. LDAP, PXE, DHCP, and Python
[09:21] <blah09> i thought the arrays were only for liveCDs
[09:21] <blah09> =)
[09:21] <Neil3> :)
[09:21] <Lindo> nope =]
[09:22] <paulproteus> Has anyone here set up a Kerberos realm?
[09:22] <Neil3> nice that schools are taking on open source software
[09:22] <farruinn> Shouldn't ide0 be seen as hda and hdb?
[09:22] <hybrid_> Hannes_ it is funny i went to linux.com and it said installin linux with red hat and i nearly did but it was too big but at the time i had no idea wtf it wuz and my mom would have been mad i was like 12
[09:22] <hybrid_> lol
[09:23] <mike_douglas> It's just much better software, especially on the server side
[09:23] <hybrid_> i think school would be more effect with irc then email
[09:24] <hybrid_> irc on their server b/c i read the employees email all the time
[09:24] <hybrid_> :P
[09:24] <Hannes_> btw I use ubuntu on my "server"
[09:24] <hybrid_> kool
[09:25] <Hannes_> runing irrssi + a place to upload my pix :P
[09:25] <hybrid_> kool
[09:25] <[Spooky] > Hello all, i have a question, ive installed Ubuntu on my kids computer and the mouse dont work, its a serial mouse dont ubuntu support it ?
[09:25] <Hannes_> [Spooky] : wait
[09:26] <Hannes_> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SerialMouseHowto
[09:26] <maggi> http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~goldfish/ass.jpg
[09:26] <[Spooky] > Hannes_: thanks
[09:26] <Lindo> lol
[09:27] <Hannes_> nb
[09:28] <linuxn00b> Hi, i'm having problems getting sound juncer and grip to rip mp3, I followed the how-to on ubuntufourms but still notihng :(
[09:28] <vi11e> hi, I can't help you :/
[09:28] <Hannes_> linuxn00b: what does it say?
[09:28] <malte`> how come i installed libqt3-dev-mt and i still can't compile QT apps?
[09:29] <paulproteus> malte`: What error do you get?
[09:29] <paulproteus> You might need --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3/ or =/usr/include/qt/
[09:29] <linuxn00b> well in sound juicer the mp3 button is grayed out and grip says encoder not found
[09:29] <jlj> I'm running hoary with latest updates, when I connect an usb drive I have to kill gnome-vfs-daemon to get the drive to show up on the desktop, is this a known problem?
[09:29] <mat> linuxn00b: tried installing gstreamer-lame ?
[09:29] <edi> hello
[09:29] <linuxn00b> mat yup
[09:30] <bob2> malte`: install build-essential and read /usr/share/doc/libqt3-mt-dev/README.Debian
[09:30] <malte`> thanks bob2 i'll read it
[09:30] <malte`> (i installed build-essentials)
[09:30] <mpq> anyone know if winamp will run with wine?
[09:30] <bob2> I wouldn't bother
[09:30] <bob2> but probably
[09:31] <mpq> I wouldn't either but it's the only player that supports mp3pro encoding
[09:31] <YankDownUnder> mpq: Why ITH would you want to run WinAMP under linux?
[09:31] <omar> has anyone ever had a problem with modifying their $PATH ??  I am installing xfce and it says in cannot find a file even though the file is there?
[09:31] <bob2> then don't do mp3 encoding
[09:31] <linuxn00b> i'm not sure what to do now, because I need these in mp3 format. :/
[09:31] <mpq> I'm not the one who did it
[09:31] <bob2> there's enough proprietary junk in the world already
[09:31] <mpq> some idiot is broadcasting an internet radio station in mp3pro
[09:31] <bob2> gah
[09:31] <mpq> and it sounds horrible without the codec
[09:31] <Hannes_> linuxn00b: rip to ogg
[09:32] <bob2> linuxn00b: install lame.  use grip.
[09:32] <linuxn00b> Hannes_, I would love to but my cd player in the car doesnt play igg
[09:32] <bob2> getting soundjuicer to work would be horribly annoying
[09:32] <mebaran> ok
[09:32] <linuxn00b> bob2, I tried grip it doesnt notice I installed lame
[09:32] <mebaran> so I manually removed every trace of alsa on my system
[09:32] <mebaran> which left me with oss
[09:32] <mebaran> unfortunately
[09:32] <mebaran> now system sounds work
[09:32] <bob2> linuxn00b: it doesn't care if you installed it or not
[09:32] <mebaran> but ALSA will not work at all
[09:33] <mebaran> I need to figure out how to make dpkg restore the device scripts
[09:33] <bob2> linuxn00b: and if it doesn't work, then you didn't install lame properly
[09:33] <bob2> mebaran: "device scripts"?
[09:33] <mebaran> yeah
[09:33] <sgtshatta> how does one change their path $PATH ??
[09:33] <mebaran> the ones
[09:33] <linuxn00b> bob2, well how to I install it right I used synaptic
[09:33] <mebaran> in like /etc/alsa
[09:33] <slackd00d> how do i su - to root in ubuntu? i was never promted to enter a root password during installation
[09:33] <bob2> linuxn00b: install the "lame" package.
[09:33] <bob2> mebaran: you deleted them?
[09:33] <bob2> slackd00d: please read the FAQ
[09:33] <Hannes_> slackd00d: sudo
[09:33] <mebaran> yeah
[09:33] <mebaran> as my sound did not work at all
[09:33] <bob2> mebaran: why?
[09:33] <mpq> which is better, ogg or m4a?
[09:33] <slackd00d> bob2: will do
[09:34] <mebaran> I manually deleted every remnant of alsa
[09:34] <hybrid_> ogg
[09:34] <slackd00d> Hannes_: thanks
[09:34] <mebaran> as stated by whereis
[09:34] <bob2> mebaran: no, you don't ever delete files you don't understand, it will only break things
[09:34] <sgtshatta> slack00d: sudo su
[09:34] <mebaran> well mny sound was completely broken before
[09:34] <mebaran> now only xmms is broken
[09:34] <mebaran> I read the scripts
[09:34] <bob2> yes, and deleting them did not help
[09:34] <zenrox> yep
[09:34] <mebaran> well I get system sounds now bob2
[09:34] <mpq> yeah, I'm not going to bother with winamp
[09:34] <bob2> well, ok, but hat's not because you deleted them
[09:34] <mebaran> I think it is because oss took over
[09:35] <bob2> sgtshatta: what are you trying to do?
[09:35] <mpq> this is listenable for talk radio
[09:35] <mebaran> because alsa cant load anymore
[09:35] <slackd00d> sgtshatta: thank you
[09:35] <sgtshatta> slack00d: no prob
[09:35] <linuxn00b> well if anyone is interested this is my cd player http://tinyurl.com/64pnj
[09:35] <mebaran> bob2
[09:35] <mebaran> what would you suggest then
[09:35] <bob2> linuxn00b: if you can't run "lame" from the command line, you don't have it installed
[09:36] <mebaran> I reinstalled the alsa pakages multiple times
[09:36] <mpq> why is it called lame?
[09:36] <mebaran> and I never go sound
[09:36] <bob2> mebaran: I have no idea what your original problem was, but randoly deleting files is never a good idea
[09:36] <linuxn00b> bob2, I can run it in the command line
[09:36] <mebaran> heheh
[09:36] <bob2> mebaran: how would reinstalling them help?
[09:36] <mpq> that filename is lame
[09:36] <mebaran> I dont know
[09:36] <bob2> right
[09:36] <mebaran> I looked through everything though
[09:36] <mebaran> it was quite baffling
[09:36] <mebaran> the mixer settings were fine
[09:36] <mebaran> amixer said everything was good
[09:36] <bob2> linuxn00b: and you put the right path into grip?
[09:37] <mebaran> esd was loaded
[09:37] <bob2> ok...
[09:37] <mebaran> but still no sound
[09:37] <mebaran> so I decided maybe I should purge my system of alsa
[09:37] <linuxn00b> bob2, it just says lame
[09:37] <mebaran> and do a fresh install
[09:37] <bob2> linuxn00b: try putting the full path in there
[09:37] <mebaran> bob2, how does Ubuntu make the scripts in the first place
[09:37] <topyli> mpq: "Lame Ain't an Mp3 Encoder"? :)
[09:37] <mpq> lol
[09:37] <bob2> mebaran: if you're using OSS, it doesn't matter if they exist or not
[09:38] <linuxn00b> bob2, ok well I put in the whole path now it works thanks :)
[09:38] <mebaran> well I prefer ALSA
[09:38] <bob2> but they come from various alsa-* packages
[09:38] <bob2> so you need to purge and reinstall them
[09:38] <mebaran> because have very poor quality
[09:38] <bob2> and not ever do silly things like that again
[09:38] <mebaran> sorry bob2
[09:38] <mebaran> I thought if it was broken
[09:38] <mebaran> it wouldnt matter if I break it more
[09:38] <e-Jah> re
[09:38] <bob2> I really doubt it was broken
[09:38] <bob2> in that sense, anyway
[09:39] <mebaran> ok
[09:39] <mebaran> I am just going to try a reinstall
[09:39] <bob2> of what?
[09:39] <mebaran> I fix the right way
[09:39] <mebaran> of ubuntu
[09:39] <mebaran> seems the easiest way
[09:39] <bob2> how would that help?
[09:39] <bob2> if it didn't work before, why would it work now?
[09:40] <[Spooky] > man i forgotted the user password on my kids computer, am i f*cked ?
[09:40] <mebaran> try a later disc image
[09:40] <mebaran> maybe they fixed
[09:40] <Gul3> hello, can someone paste me the linux part of theire /boot/grub/menu.lst file?
[09:40] <Gul3> in a new dialog window please
[09:40] <hybrid_> Spooky no
[09:40] <hybrid_> login as root
[09:40] <mebaran> bob2
[09:40] <bob2> [Spooky] : boot the rescue image from grub
[09:40] <hybrid_> then passwd username
[09:40] <mebaran> thanks anyway
[09:40] <[Spooky] > hybrid_: dont have root yet, and no mouse hehe
[09:41] <delltony> want sudo su give him root?
[09:41] <bob2> "won't", yes.
[09:41] <hybrid_> [Spooky]  how do you not have root? o_0
[09:41] <bob2> not if you can't login, tho.
[09:41] <delltony> won't want whatever
[09:41] <hybrid_> not if you cant login
[09:42] <bob2> they are seperate words.
[09:42] <[Spooky] > hybrid_: because i have installed the os and havent had it working since no mouse...
[09:42] <delltony> again who cares :)
[09:42] <hybrid_> o i c
[09:42] <[Spooky] > hybrid_: should i do a re-install ?
[09:42] <hybrid_> well do you have lynx somehow?
[09:42] <bob2> no
[09:43] <bob2> [Spooky] : boot the rescue image from grub
[09:43] <bob2> then set a new password
[09:43] <hybrid_> yea bob2 is prolly got the best idea
[09:43] <[Spooky] > bob2: ok and the command for that is ?
[09:44] <bob2> [Spooky] : for what?
[09:44] <[Spooky] > set a new pass...
[09:44] <delltony> option 2 from the grub menu is it not?
[09:44] <bob2> "passwd user_name" once you've booted into root.
[09:44] <[Spooky] > just passwd login ?
[09:45] <bob2> once you've got in, yes.
[09:45] <[Spooky] > bob2: ok but as i told i dont have root...
[09:45] <bob2> *sigh*
[09:45] <bob2> yes, that's why I said the frst thing twice.
[09:45] <delltony> spooky: restart and when grub comes up there are options
[09:45] <delltony> :)
[09:45] <delltony> i believe its number 2 correct me if i'm wrong
[09:45] <[Spooky] > aha sorry my lamenes hehe
[09:45] <bob2> it's marked "rescue" or "emergency" or such
[09:46] <hybrid_> *hybrid wonders if using a livecd you could change the pass
[09:46] <bob2> yes, of course
[09:47] <bob2> but that's more of a pain in the arse
[09:47] <hybrid_> o
[09:47] <farruinn> has the SupportedHardware wiki page been taken down entirely?
[09:48] <mpq> I tried using those cleaning wipes to get the marker off the computer
[09:48] <mpq> it didn't do a thing
[09:48] <newbie4sure> excuse me .. this may be a bit off-topic
[09:48] <hybrid_> [Spooky]  well any way you can get root you can change the pass pretty much
[09:48] <newbie4sure> but is bsrf down? and y?
[09:48] <farruinn> nm, I was looking for the HardwareSupport page
[09:48] <mpq> if only there was a "sudo pkill marker" command
[09:48] <bob2> "bsrf"?
[09:48] <[Spooky] > hm i dont get any menu in the boot it just start ubuntu...
[09:48] <hybrid_> mpq: lol
[09:48] <bob2> [Spooky] : hit escape over and over
[09:49] <hybrid_> no i want a man page for girlfriend
[09:49] <newbie4sure> bsrf.org.uk
[09:50] <newbie4sure> bob2 ... i meant bsrf.org.uk
[09:50] <darren_> hi everyone...im trying to permanently mount my vfat partition (since thats where my music lives) under warty, ive modified fstab, but i cant get user write access..any ideas?
[09:50] <bob2> that doesn't seem to have anything to do with ubuntu
[09:50] <[Spooky] > bob2: hm dosent happen mutch...
[09:50] <bob2> darren_: umask=002 in the option field
[09:50] <topyli> hybrid_: i have man pages for 'sex', 'people', and all sorts of useful commands like 'bosskill'
[09:50] <bob2> [Spooky] : I don't know what that means
[09:50] <darren_> thanks, ill give it a go
[09:51] <hybrid_> topyli lol how did you do that
[09:51] <SeanQ> Question.
[09:51] <newbie4sure> bob2 ... yeah ... thats y i said excuse me ... sorry if i shldn't have asked abt it...
[09:51] <Neil3> Answer
[09:51] <darren_> bob2...ill test and be back
[09:51] <hybrid_> well a good command is make love or more beer
[09:51] <[Spooky] > bob2: ok well thanks anyway...
[09:51] <bob2> [Spooky] : if you hit escape at the right time, you will get a menu
[09:52] <SeanQ> Somehow, my Rhythmbox stops loading songs..[I have a library of about 1000 over 2 folders]  but still says Loading Songs..?
[09:52] <SeanQ> How can I get these songs to load?
[09:52] <SeanQ> I tried to --debug it but to no avail
[09:52] <bob2> rhythmbox has lots of problems like that, unfortunately
[09:52] <topyli> hybrid_: there's this debian package... manpages-funny or something. there's also one for the asr-manpages (alt.sysadmin.recovery)
[09:52] <cowbud> SeanQ: sometimes just letting it sit there for a long time it will eventually stop..
[09:52] <hybrid_> topli lol
[09:53] <[Spooky] > bob2: did that from the start... with no succsess... il just re-install it...
[09:53] <bob2> er, that's a bit extreme
[09:53] <SeanQ> cowbud, I don't want it to stop, though..I want it to keep loading songs
[09:53] <bob2> s/bit/lot/
[09:53] <SeanQ> well xmms isn't doing much better either
[09:54] <hybrid_> does anyone know of another command line browser besides lynx
[09:54] <randabis> links
[09:54] <randabis> elinks
[09:54] <SeanQ> links
[09:54] <SeanQ> elinks
[09:55] <SeanQ> were just said, lol
[09:55] <SeanQ> w3m
[09:55] <SeanQ> and xemacs + w3m together
[09:55] <randabis> heh
[09:55] <hybrid_> can i apt-get any of them
[09:55] <randabis> yes
[09:55] <hybrid_> ok
[09:56] <Jah_Raztah> Hi, I'm new to the linux scene I was think about trying ubunutu, and I was on the website... now I selected to download and i was taking to a site with a alot of download options, I'm currently running AMD thunderbrid 1.4 ghz and a ECS k7s5a mother board, so which iso would you guys recommend I download
[09:57] <SeanQ> Jah_Raztah, all depends on the processor chipset
[09:57] <SeanQ> is that AMD an AMD-64?
[09:57] <darren_> i tried unmask=002   but i get mount error, unrecognised mount option unmask=002  on startup
[09:57] <bob2> no it doesn't
[09:57] <Jah_Raztah> as i said AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.4 Ghz
[09:57] <bob2> Jah_Raztah: i386 is the only one which will work
[09:58] <bob2> darren_: I said umask, not unmask
[09:58] <SeanQ> Right, that would be an i386..I think
[09:58] <Jah_Raztah> ok thank you bob2
[09:58] <SeanQ> as bob said
[09:58] <SeanQ> yeah, it is an x86/i387
[09:58] <Jah_Raztah> and also thank you SeanQ
[09:58] <SeanQ> i386
[09:58] <SeanQ> No problem, welcome to Linux. :)
[09:58] <darren_> ooops..sorry bob2...misread, ill try again...thanks
[09:59] <Jah_Raztah> this be the one i download warty-release-install-i386.iso?
[09:59] <SeanQ> Yes. :_
[09:59] <Jah_Raztah> alright thanks
[10:00] <SeanQ> Great..now my Rhythmbox won't even open
[10:04] <cyklus> something is very wrong. when i type top total swap is 0k... i have the following line in fstab: /dev/hda4 none swap sw 0 0 ..however when i type df -h this shows up: none 5.0M  2.8M  2.3M  56% /dev  ...anyone know whats going on? ...i should have 512mb swap
[10:04] <darren_> bob2: thanks heaps, windows partition is now working as i want it to under linux :)
[10:05] <zenrox> lol
[10:05] <zenrox> another sucess storie
[10:05] <darren_> lol yeah
[10:05] <bob2> cyklus: that line from df has nothing to do with your swap partition
[10:06] <cyklus> bob2: ok, but still doesnt explain why i have no swap space
[10:06] <darren_> anyway, im off...cya all later
[10:06] <darren_> thanks again
[10:06] <bob2> cyklus: well, true, but it's still unrelated
[10:06] <zenrox> cyklus,  at 512 mbs of ram you dont really need a swap
[10:06] <bob2> "swapon -s" is the only thing that gives information about swap
[10:06] <bob2> er, yeah you do
[10:07] <bob2> I have 512MB of ram and 447MB of swap in use
[10:07] <zenrox> but not as much
[10:07] <zenrox> i have 256mbs of swap
[10:07] <farruinn> os x uses swapfiles, does windows use swap space at all?
[10:07] <zenrox> and i only use 3 megs of that swap
[10:07] <bob2> farruinn: yes
[10:07] <zenrox> very badly too
[10:07] <bob2> swapfiles like linux and mac os x, more or les
[10:08] <mebaran> I am having ALSA trouble
[10:08] <cyklus> bob2: it returns nothing when i type swapon -s
[10:08] <bob2> then you have no swap
[10:08] <mebaran> bob2, I am now back to square one
[10:08] <mebaran> I have done a clean reinstall
[10:08] <bob2> wow
[10:08] <bob2> I'm really surprised reinstalling didn't magically fix it!
[10:08] <bob2> ;)
[10:08] <cyklus> bob2: any idea why?
[10:08] <mebaran> now how would I go about trouble shooting this properly
[10:08] <Pinguvin> how do i edit the kernel boot-up arguments from gnome?
[10:08] <mebaran> no
[10:08] <mebaran> I knew it wouldnt
[10:08] <bob2> cyklus: sudo swapon -a
[10:08] <mebaran> I just wanted to get back to this
[10:08] <bob2> Pinguvin: with a text editor
[10:08] <bob2> anyway, adios
[10:08] <qpid> does it give a x scp/ssh/sftp client in the packets?
[10:08] <Pinguvin> bob2: yes but where is it
[10:09] <mebaran> a point from which everything is setup
[10:09] <cyklus> bob2: swapon: /dev/hda4: Invalid argument
[10:09] <bob2> Pinguvin: /boot/grub/menu.lst or so
[10:09] <Pinguvin> bob2: thanks
[10:09] <mebaran> so does anyone have any idea as ti how to fix it
[10:09] <bob2> qpid: no, that would be pointless, but nautilus can do sftp.
[10:09] <bob2> mebaran: you're being so vague that no one can help you
[10:09] <mebaran> ah
[10:09] <mebaran> Well I dont know where to begin
[10:09] <mpq> is there a word for an op that's above other ops and can therefore do whatever he wants?
[10:10] <bob2> mebaran: write an email to the list explaning what you think isn't working, and why
[10:10] <mebaran> I have all the modules loaded
[10:10] <bob2> mpq: no
[10:10] <mebaran> and mixer
[10:10] <bob2> mpq: there are ircops, but that's different
[10:10] <mebaran> seems to be setup right
[10:10] <mpq> there should be a word
[10:10] <bob2> cyklus: then perhaps that partition doesn't exist
[10:10] <bob2> mpq: why?
[10:10] <qpid> bob2: hmm ok
[10:10] <qpid> bob2: thx
[10:10] <bob2> or do you mean "channel founder"?
[10:10] <mpq> there's this guy in another channel that spontaneously spammed
[10:10] <cyklus> bob2: i just checked and its there... and set as linux swap / solaris
[10:10] <bob2> ok!
[10:10] <mpq> and he runs the website that the channel's for
[10:10] <mpq> so nobody can touch him
[10:11] <qpid> somone knows a well x scp client? ;)
[10:11] <bob2> so move to a channel without idiot ops
[10:11] <bob2> irc politics is about as pointless as anything in the universe
[10:11] <mpq> lol
[10:11] <mpq> nobody really cares
[10:11] <mebaran> so bob2, what list would I go to then
[10:11] <mebaran> to report my misfortune
[10:11] <mpq> he said "I WILL DRIVE FOR YOU" nine times in a row
[10:12] <cyklus> bob2: i checked /dev and its there ad well
[10:12] <mpq> well, I just made a troublesome discovery
[10:12] <mpq> the touchpad off button doesn't do anything in linux
[10:12] <tha_gamemaster> I think I've got the nvidia driver loaded but glx isn't working right, I installed it using the ubuntu packages
[10:12] <mpq> the light goes on and off when I press the button but the touchpad stays on
[10:12] <bob2> try again, and follow the instructions exactly
[10:12] <ziggity> Is there anyone who's successfully installed monodevelope IDE
[10:13] <mebaran> I believe it is a mixer problem
[10:13] <mebaran> but I really wouldnt know
[10:14] <mebaran> bob2, but magically, since the reinstall Evolution works
[10:14] <mebaran> what a world this is
[10:14] <redissexy> where do windows network directroies get mounted?
[10:14] <blah09> whereever you specify in /etc/fstab
[10:15] <duckdown> How can I get the VGA font for my x terminals?
[10:15] <SeanQ> this is making me mad.