[00:27] <persia> ScottL, Indeed.  We'll have to modify a few things in the metapackage source as we modify the seeds.
[00:28] <persia> In the etherpad summary which I'm hoping you are using to flesh things out, the seeds: line in update.cfg is one of the entries.
[01:07] <ScottL> persia, i did save the etherpad summary and i am using it to flesh things out, along with various conversations you and luke have had with me ;)
[01:08] <TheMuso> ScottL: Yes thats right
[01:08] <TheMuso> You will need to update the update.cfg file to switch to natty
[01:08] <persia> OK.  Just wanted to make sure, because that had a couple sections that were directly tracking stuff in the metapackage source :)
[07:05] <abogani> ScottL: Exactly: _vanilla_ based realtime kernel not _ubuntu_ based realtime kernel.
[07:07] <abogani> TheMuso: Very simple question: Is there a way to don't specify distribution release (3rd field in debian/changelog) to let package be distribution agnostic? I would want avoid to copy packages over and over into our PPA only changing distribution version.
[07:08] <TheMuso> abogani: For PPAs, I don't believe that is possible, you could ask in #launchpad to be sure.
[07:08] <abogani> TheMuso: I'm already googled and I have also check Debian manuals but I don;t see nothing useful
[07:08] <TheMuso> There has to be a distro release target for the upload.
[07:08] <abogani> TheMuso: Ok. Thanks Luke.
[07:08] <TheMuso> No problem.
[07:13] <persia> If one hosts them somewhere else (e.g. people.ubuntu.com) and compiles them oneself, one can use non-release strings.
[07:14] <persia> Mind you, keeping indices up-to-date and the like might be tricky.
[07:47] <abogani> ScottL: Could you say me if my last in devel ml email is understandable, please?
[07:47] <abogani> ScottL: Thanks in adance.
[08:09] <jussi01_> abogani: are you going to uds?
[08:15] <abogani> jussi01_: No.
[08:15] <jussi01_> :(
[08:15] <abogani> jussi01_: Why?
[08:17]  * abogani isn't be able to sustain an English conversation.
[08:18] <persia> You do fine in IRC.
[08:20] <jussi> yes, I agree, you do just fine.
[08:22] <abogani> Please guys for one time believe in me
[08:22]  * abogani goes to drink coffe
[08:23] <persia> I don't disbelieve you.  Speech and writing are different in *so* many ways, especially writing on the internet.
[08:23] <persia> I'm just saying you seem close with the writing, so the speech oughtn't be too far away.
[08:42] <abogani> ScottL: Could you say me if my last in devel ml email is understandable, please?
[08:43] <TheMuso> abogani: I'd say he is in bed at this point.
[08:48] <astraljava> yeah, it's 3:50 am where he's at... :D
[08:48] <abogani> Ops :-)
[08:51] <astraljava> abogani: But if you're talking about the advice on working with closed drivers, then I would say it's coherent. :)
[08:52] <abogani> astraljava: Exactly. Thanks.
[10:48] <quadrispro> hi guys! I'm back
[10:49] <persia> hey.  Welcome back.
[10:51] <quadrispro> persia, I have a lot of work to do
[10:51] <persia> Always :)
[10:52] <quadrispro> eh eh, work is never over
[11:14] <astraljava> Hi there Alessio!
[11:16] <quadrispro> hi astraljava
[11:57] <quadrispro> ScottL, http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/naspro-core.html
[11:58] <quadrispro> ScottL, :) waiting for permafrost and naspro-bridges-bad now
[12:21] <ScottL> hi quadrispro , i hope you had a good vacation and welcome back :)
[12:29] <quadrispro> ScottL, I had great holidays, I really love London
[12:46] <ScottL> :)
[12:46] <ScottL> never been to the UK although I hope to go sometime
[13:17] <quadrispro> ScottL, wah-plugins has been accepted in unstable -> http://packages.qa.debian.org/w/wah-plugins.html
[13:19] <ScottL> awestome, quadrispro!
[13:19] <ScottL> now if debain would just release then i would feel better about being able to get packages into ubuntu ;)
[13:20] <ScottL> but seriously, quadrispro, paultag has been hanging around also and looking to package stuff as well, i pointed in at REVU (tag ubuntustudio)
[13:20] <ScottL> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/tag/ubuntustudio
[13:21] <ScottL> to see if we couldn't get some movement on those packages
[13:21] <ScottL> i am presuming it would be quicker to get them into debian and then we can archive the package in REVU then
[13:22] <persia> Not necessarily quicker: roughly the same process (two developers look at it)
[13:22] <persia> But better long-term.
[13:23] <persia> Actually, with the squeeze freeze, and ftp-masters being intentionally slow about NEW, might be faster to get stuff into Ubuntu, but harder to maintain it that way.
[13:27] <quadrispro> yes, it is so
[13:28] <quadrispro> however, I'll have a look ASAP, now I'm very busy with fixing bugs on my packages to let them enter squeeze
[13:30] <persia> That's more important, really.  Getting squeeze released (and bugfixes in) helps our natty more than other things.
[13:33] <ScottL> :)
[15:35] <abogani> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-audio-update-fall-fashions?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+linuxjournalcom+%28Linux+Journal+-+The+Original+Magazine+of+the+Linux+Community%29&utm_content=Google+International
[15:41] <persia> heh.  We get mentioned for our spring release under the headline "fall fashions" :)
[16:27] <scott-work> abogani: i just read the backscroll (well, irc logs) and saw your question - i second astraljava's comment, your english is perfectly understandable (although some of the technicalities were beyond my understanding at this point)
[16:27]  * scott-work is very ignorant about much of the close drivers
[16:28] <abogani> scott-work: Thanks.
[16:29] <scott-work> abogani: you are welcome :)  i'm glad to help anytime you need it
[22:10] <scott-work> jussi01: pinged Ng today, no answer yet, but i left him the ticket link - https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=15226
[22:10] <scott-work> jussi01: should i back off for a couple of days now ?
[22:19] <persia> ScottL, Might be worth not just asking Ng, but rather asking open-ended questions on #canonical-sysadmin (there are a few of them, of which Ng is one).
[22:19] <persia> But it's important not to ask too much/too often, or they'll just ignore you.
[23:58] <ScottL> persia, i will wait another couple of days and then ask again on #canonical-sysadmin, but not focus on Ng this time


[00:16] <bs-studio> I got a yamaha psr-e213, Roland UM-ONE usb midi interface and ubuntu studio 14.04. Documentation is huge. I cannot see any alsa in Jack. Pls, advise.
[00:18] <bs-studio> studio is installed on Dell latitude e5410, audio card is Intel HDA.
[00:19] <bs-studio> The Jack connection tab does not show any alsa driver...
[00:20] <bs-studio> Despite this, Synapatics shows some installation of alsa
[00:21] <bs-studio> I am confused... pls, help.
[00:27] <bs-studio> No one explaining the meaning of Readable client(output) and Writable clients (input)...
[01:04] <boytoy> any female dominatrix up here?
[16:57] <anon_> I was wondering how to change password. I tried using 'passwd' command @ the command line but changing this did not work system-wide
[19:25] <Igmu> I need assistance installing fresh OS on laptop with only external display. Boots from CD, selects languages,.. freezes on graphic loading. Terminal freezes with any command with sudo....
[19:26] <Igmu> This laptop has NVidia card so I know this will be an issue later. I want to install OS on SDA1.
[19:51] <Igmu> Can I do this by installing Ubuntu Server (no graphics) then add Studio somehow?
[20:08] <holstein> !mini
[20:08] <holstein> Igmu: *if* you want to do it that way.. but, i would just install, and use the GUI
[20:09] <holstein> its the same as with xubuntu or main ubuntu
[20:11] <Igmu> Install freezes at spinning Ubuntu Studio. Opening terminal, but what command set to install from CD?
[20:12] <holstein> Igmu: you want to get to the GUI
[20:12] <holstein> !nomodeset
[20:13] <holstein> for me, if i dont get the live desktop up, i dont install yet.. i read about the chipsets, and research
[20:13] <holstein> i think you are assuming, "my graphics are hanging due to the open source nvidia driver", and, that can be the case, but, may not be
[20:14] <holstein> on my (many) nvidia devices, i get to the live desktop, and install, then, *if* i want the closed source proprietary driver, i use the GUI to add it
[20:44] <Igmu> I get same result with live option. I goto TTY1 to startx. TTY7? is still frozen on load screen. TTY8? loads but can't select any apps. After selecting anything, it frezzes as well. Older than 12.04 works fine (before Unity?)
[21:38] <Barkhlet> Someone here could help me with my wacom tablet config?
[21:39] <Barkhlet> If anyone sees this, ubuntu studio recognizes the tablet but i cant seem to config the expresskeys, its a Wacom Pen Tablet Small