[03:28] <mebaran151> HrdwrBoB: I am not sure how it is supposed to be setup
[03:28] <mebaran151> I am doing a clean install
[03:28] <mebaran151> and would like to make my partition scheme a lot more fuild
[03:28] <mebaran151> fluid
[03:28] <mebaran151> so LVM seemed perfect
[03:29] <mebaran151> but I cant find any docs
[03:29] <HrdwrBoB> the docs are .. wanting
[03:29] <mebaran151> am I supposed to use my whole drive as one LVM volume
[03:29] <HrdwrBoB> use the installer
[03:29] <crimsun> JaZy84: you probably need at least a new version of ALSA, using 1.0.9b from upstream.
[03:29] <mebaran151> and put in parititions or some such
[03:29] <mebaran151> the partition snafus
[03:29] <cafuego> mebaran151: The partitioner will help you, just make a volume group, thern add partitions to it.
[03:29] <mebaran151> ah
[03:29] <HrdwrBoB> the best thing to know is the layers
[03:29] <mebaran151> but I make the whole drive one LVM group at first
[03:29] <sally> cafuego: yes, AP is set up to allow wep. wep key authenticates via OSX.
[03:29] <mebaran151> right?
[03:29] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[03:29] <cafuego> sally: ANything in 'dmesg' ?
[03:30] <mebaran151> and then I add what would normally be my parititions to that one big VG
[03:30] <mebaran151> when does EVMS come in?
[03:30] <HrdwrBoB> mebaran151: you need to make your drive an LVM physcial volume
[03:30] <mebaran151> ok
[03:30] <Chris_Tucker> how do i set my samba server to allow guest access?
[03:30] <HrdwrBoB> add that volume to a VG
[03:30] <Mez> crimsun: you wouldnt believe how much of a PITA this is
[03:30] <mebaran151> oh
[03:30] <HrdwrBoB> then make lv's on that
[03:30] <mebaran151> a VG
[03:30] <sally> cafuego: clarify "dmesg"? sally=newbie. :)
[03:30] <mebaran151> do I need a VG if I only have one drive
[03:30] <JaZy84> hrm well i need to run to pick up the girlfriend i guess i'll look into problems later : /
[03:30] <mebaran151> (this is my new Shuttle) beautiful work
[03:30] <JaZy84> thanks guys
[03:30] <cafuego> sally: Type 'dmesg' at a shell... it will give you the kernel log buffer
[03:31] <crimsun> Mez: actually I _know_ how much of a PITA it is. I tried it months ago - and I warned you.
[03:31] <occy> crimsun, hey bud... Have you ever heard of an "IBM think pad like" USB input device?
[03:31] <rob_p> ma3x:  Also try separating the values with a comma as cafuego suggested.  I think that is probably the correct way to specify multiple interfaces, etc.
[03:31] <Mez> crimsun, It's not that bad actually I think I've got everything sorted
[03:31] <occy> crimsun, those little nipple thingies...
[03:31] <occy> heh
[03:31] <crimsun> occy: hey. I have no idea what you're referring to, unfortunately.
[03:31] <occy> ahhh ok np
[03:32] <chorton> The red dot?
[03:32] <Razor-X> occy: I have
[03:32] <Razor-X> USB touch pads
[03:32] <Mez> crimsun: there we go, backported alsa-libs alsa-base and alsa-utils
[03:32] <JaZy84> the nob
[03:32] <JaZy84> for the ibm
[03:32] <JaZy84> the eraser pointer
[03:32] <Mez> crimsun: nothing else needed
[03:32] <cafuego> you mean "clit" yes?
[03:32] <crimsun> the scrollpoint?
[03:32] <sally> cafuego: Odd. AP in and out of range/connected/disconnected. Also "unknown information frame" and "no IPv6 routers present"
[03:33] <crimsun> Mez: have fun
[03:33] <psychonate> DId he just say... ?
[03:33] <mebaran151> psychonate: I think he did.....
[03:33] <cafuego> sally: Hmm. You within range of the ap I presume? (Just ignore the ipv6 thing)
[03:33] <psychonate> rofl
[03:33] <codecaine> im building debian boxes on one lan then deploying them to another lan.  when deployed to new lan (ip scheme) changes and then authentication is SLOW.  for instance, ssh has a delay before password comes up, smtp banner is also delayed etc... any reason for this?  if i put the debian box back on original ip scheme its normal again.  thx
[03:33] <Mez> crimsun: how do you mean
[03:33] <codecaine> hey all
[03:33] <sally> cafuego: yup, definitely within range.
[03:34] <crimsun> Mez: nothing more, nothing less
[03:34] <codecaine> im building debian boxes on one lan then deploying them to another lan.  when deployed to new lan (ip scheme) changes and then authentication is SLOW.  for instance, ssh has a delay before password comes up, smtp banner is also delayed etc... any reason for this?  if i put the debian box back on original ip scheme its normal again.  thx
[03:34] <cafuego> sally: 'sudo iwpriv scanning' - what's that do?
[03:34] <pestilence> codecaine: reverse dns not working properly?
[03:35] <codecaine> hmmm
[03:35] <sally> cafuego: 'scanning no private ioctls'
[03:35] <mebaran151> codecaine: the problem is
[03:35] <codecaine> pestilence, you're right, i have the WRONG primary DNS
[03:35] <mebaran151> I think it has to do dns when it works
[03:35] <FatManWalking> I want to use gtkpod.  I need to load libid3tag.  I downloaded libid3tag0_0.15.1b-7_i386.deb,  but now I don't know how to install it.  Help.
[03:35] <codecaine> mebaran151, thank you also
[03:35] <Mez> alsa-utils conflicts with udev?
[03:35] <opiate> can anyone help me with azureus?
[03:35] <Mez> brb
[03:35] <Mez> reboot
[03:35] <cafuego> sally: No chance you typo3d the key?
[03:35] <Razor-X> FatManWalking: do you use a package manager?
[03:36] <codecaine> i remember now, when i setup the boxes on my lan i don't change the primary dns AGH!
[03:36] <pestilence> codecaine: glad i could help
[03:36] <codecaine> the delay is becuase it tries primary then finally gets by with secondary
[03:36] <codecaine> pestilence, agh just needed a quick spark, thank you!
[03:36] <pestilence> np
[03:36] <sally> cafuego: do you mean mistyped the key? No, I've tried several times.
[03:37] <FatManWalking> I have synaptic.
[03:37] <cafuego> sally: How many characters is the key?
[03:37] <occy> trackpoint is the name of it.
[03:37] <occy> heh
[03:37] <Razor-X> FatManWalking: use that
[03:37] <sally> cafuego: 10 chars.
[03:37] <Razor-X> or, simple
[03:37] <Razor-X> ``sudo aptitude install gtkpod''
[03:37] <cafuego> occy: Look mate, just call it what it is, a clit :-)
[03:37] <occy> I think it'd be cool as heck to have a USB trackpoint that you could plug in on the side of your laptop.
[03:37] <asda> hi how to limit user proses what command for do tha
[03:37] <occy> cafuego, hahahaha
[03:37] <f_newton> yes synaptic is one of the great things about debian based distros
[03:37] <occy> cafuego, that's nipple actually
[03:37] <cafuego> sally: 10 hex or 10 alphanumeric?
[03:37] <bimberi> FatManWalking: gtkpod is available in the ubuntu repositories - or are you installing a later version?
[03:37] <cafuego> occy: Not in melbourne :-)
[03:38] <sally> cafuego: 10 hex
[03:38] <cafuego> sally: Did you add it as s:TenhexDigits in iwconfig?
[03:38] <sally> cafuego: yes
[03:39] <FatManWalking> I really don't know how to use synaptic.  I searched for gtkpod in synaptic, and clicked it for install.  That is when it gave me the dependency error.  I down loaded the package, and I don't know how to get it into synaptic.
[03:39] <cafuego> sally: Okay, s: means it's ascii. Do 'sudo iwconfig eth1 key TenHexDigits'
[03:39] <cafuego> sally: And then the dhclient thing again
[03:39] <f_newton> synaptic gave you a dependency error?
[03:39] <_frank> FatManWalking: what error did you get?
[03:39] <raDeon> hi
[03:39] <f_newton> and I am going to refill my rasberry tea
[03:39] <asda> !ping me
[03:40] <ubotu> asda: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:40] <FatManWalking> gtkpod-aac:
[03:40] <FatManWalking>  Depends: libid3tag0 (>=0.15.0b) but it is not installable
[03:40] <sally> cafuego: done.
[03:41] <sally> cafuego: I tried w/o 's:' before as well. Seems to detect the signal, even gives signal strength, but can't connect.
[03:41] <Razor-X> does VLC play H.264 files?
[03:42] <cafuego> sally: Not that it _should_ make a difference, but can you unload the airport driver,. then reload it and try again?
[03:42] <bimberi> FatManWalking: i can't see gtkpod-aac in my synaptic.  Do you have extra repositories?
[03:43] <raDeon> how do i use sudo
[03:43] <Mez> crimsun: shouldnt have to touch hotplug
[03:43] <Mez> but udev :D
[03:43] <nalioth> !sudo
[03:43] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:43] <raDeon> thanks
[03:43] <crimsun> Mez: ah, it has changed
[03:43] <sally> cafuego: erm, "unload/reload airport driver"? can you walk me thru?
[03:43] <cafuego> sally: 'sudo rmmod airport; sudo modprobe airport'
[03:43] <Mez> crimsun - what has?
[03:44] <opiate> anyone know how to change the ports on gnome bit torrent?
[03:44] <crimsun> Mez: in the past, discover and hotplug had to be tweaked, too.
[03:44] <FatManWalking> I added this one (deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted).  I think I got it from a LinuxQuestions.org forum.
[03:45] <cafuego> ahaa!
[03:46] <sally> cafuego: done w/ same result: dhcpdiscover = all <IP_ADDRESS>. Msg: no working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[03:46] <FatManWalking> I took SuSE for a test run, and when I downloaded an RPM and clicked on it YaST would open and install the program.  Does it work like that with Debian/Ubuntu?
[03:47] <chorton> It can.
[03:47] <chorton> Or you can use the built in installer program to find the files in need.
[03:47] <asda> hi how to limit user proses what command for do tha
[03:48] <chorton> apt-get install <nameofprog> installs programs without having to go find them.
[03:48] <mebaran151_> can I convert my existing partitioned setup to LVM easily?
[03:48] <mebaran151_> or must it begin that way
[03:49] <mebaran151_> I cant find any decent docs on LVM2
[03:49] <cafuego> ubotu: info firefox backports
[03:49] <Chris_Tucker> how do i set my samba server to allow guest access?
[03:50] <asda> ?
[03:50] <asda> anyone there
[03:50] <asda> !ping me
[03:50] <ubotu> I don't know, asda
[03:51] <mebaran151_> arg
[03:51] <cafuego> typical
[03:51] <cafuego> sally: Then I don't know :-(
[03:52] <sally> cafuego: no worries, I've tried a few things and it's all been a little odd... :) thanks for your help. I'm going to reset the base station etc and go though these steps again.
[03:53] <cafuego> if al else fails, a hammer...
[03:53] <MagicFab> mebaran: if you have at least twice the space yes
[03:53] <cafuego> sally: the base station *IS* running dhcp right?
[03:53] <MagicFab> create your LVM in free space
[03:53] <MagicFab> transfer old stuff into LVM
[03:53] <MagicFab> then grow your LVM to occupy the old space
[03:54] <raDeon> how do i play mp3 files
[03:54] <mebaran151_> MagicFab: not what I was hoping for
[03:55] <LokeDK> Why is fluxbox so slow? I've even compiled it my self instead of the package
[03:55] <mebaran151_> it cant agressively cache its own data?
[03:55] <benplaut> !w32codecs
[03:55] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably a set of codecs needed to play many common audio and video formats, such as WMV. You can install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repositories (see: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org).
[03:55] <mebaran151_> !
[03:55] <benplaut> what the?!
[03:55] <benplaut> wha...?!
[03:56] <benplaut> you're a mod, eh?
[03:56] <mebaran151_> the LVM in the installer is confusing
[03:56] <mebaran151_> it cryptically fails to give me a subpartition
[03:56] <cafuego> benplaut: No, just run the bot. I'm fiddling with the repository search code
[03:56] <benplaut> aahhh
[03:56] <mebaran151_> or let me add any VG's
[03:56] <MagicFab> mebaran: what do you not understand
[03:56] <cafuego> specifically, iw ant it to search extras :-)
[03:57] <benplaut> good idea :)
[03:57] <MagicFab> heh
[03:57] <cafuego> !info firefox security
[03:57] <mebaran151_> !XFS
[03:57] <ubotu> mebaran151_: Bugger all, i dunno
[03:57] <benplaut> hmm
[03:57] <benplaut> can you make it accept wildcards? (*)
[03:57] <cafuego> !info mozilla-firefox security
[03:57] <MagicFab> meb:
[03:57] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1 (hoary-security), Packaged size: 8594 kB, Installed size: 24124 kB
[03:57] <MagicFab> usually you have to setup free space to be LVM partitions
[03:57] <cafuego> benplaut: /msg ubotu find <substring>
[03:58] <MagicFab> then the LVM tool can setup groups and volumes
[03:58] <benplaut> ahh
[03:58] <cafuego> benplaut: Then request info on what it finds, if you need it.
[03:58] <mebaran151_> If I symlink out of a chroot environment
[03:58] <mebaran151_> what happens
[03:58] <MagicFab> have you ever created / grown an LVM before ? I had to experiement a little before understanding
[03:58] <asda> hi help me plsssss
[03:59] <mebaran151_> MagicFab: I am running the wizard in the installer
[03:59] <Mez> crimsun, I got it to all build and install
[03:59] <cafuego> asda: We can't unless you aska  question.
[03:59] <mebaran151_> I made one VG
[03:59] <Mez> crimsun, now for the acid test: does it work
[03:59] <mebaran151_> with my harddisk inside it
[03:59] <asda> hi how to limit user proses what command for do tha
[03:59] <benplaut> proses?
[03:59] <asda> cafuego do you no tha
[03:59] <MagicFab> mebaran151_: AFAIK there is no wizard for LVM in the install (hoary)
[03:59] <mebaran151_> that hardisk contained 1 paritition of 160 gigs that formed that one thing
[03:59] <asda> yes prosess
[03:59] <asda> how to limit user proses
[03:59] <cafuego> asda: ulimit
[03:59] <mebaran151_> MagicFab: using a Breezy Colony 2 CD
[03:59] <concept10> !info cowbell
[03:59] <mebaran151_> I was intrigued by the boot msg LVM
[03:59] <asda> ulimit ?
[04:00] <cafuego> asda: You should be able to configure those via pam_limits.
[04:00] <MagicFab> mebaran151_: ah! sorry, havent been there yet
[04:00] <asda> u mean i mus intall ulimit ?
[04:00] <cafuego> ulimit is installed already
[04:00] <mebaran151_> HrdwrBoB: might know
[04:00] <Zodiac> yo my DVD player is still skipping even with the DMA turned on
[04:00] <Zodiac> Anyone know what it could be?
[04:00] <asda> and i conf that
[04:00] <asda> ?
[04:00] <asda> okay i'll try
[04:00] <MagicFab> how can I find out if the irght sound driver for my card is loaded ?
[04:01] <mebaran151_> lsmod
[04:01] <HrdwrBoB> hsay wghat?
[04:01] <MagicFab> aplay -l reports:
[04:01] <HrdwrBoB> I think LVM is in the install
[04:01] <MagicFab> card 0: SI7012 [SiS SI7012] , device 0: Intel ICH [SiS SI7012]
[04:01] <MagicFab>   Subdevices: 1/1
[04:01] <MagicFab>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[04:01] <asda> cafuego how to configure that ?
[04:01] <raDeon> i dont understand how to install the w32codecs
[04:01] <MagicFab> lsmod reports several drivers, but the question is.. are those the right ones for my card
[04:02] <XIII> is there a japanese support channel for ubuntu?
[04:02] <benplaut> !backports
[04:02] <ubotu> backports is, like, .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[04:02] <Harold> Afternoon everyone
[04:02] <raDeon> it doesn't tell me how to install
[04:02] <benplaut> raDeon: add that string to your sources.list
[04:02] <benplaut>  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[04:02] <benplaut> and then apt-get install w32codecs
[04:03] <mebaran151_> HrdwrBoB: it gives me an error that it cant add my LV to my VG
[04:03] <uboyo> how would I make an image of the last 2GB of a disk?
[04:03] <Mez> crimsun, you there?
[04:03] <cafuego> asda: Check google for 'pam_limits' configuration.
[04:03] <XIII> anyone for help here?
[04:03] <HrdwrBoB> mebaran151_: you don't add an lv to a VG
[04:03] <HrdwrBoB> you add a PV to an LG
[04:03] <mebaran151_> well let me go through it
[04:03] <HrdwrBoB> er VG
[04:03] <HrdwrBoB> PV < VG < LV
[04:04] <mebaran151_> I made one primary parition for my one harddisk
[04:04] <HrdwrBoB> physical volumes make up volume groups which ahve logical volumes on them
[04:04] <phixion> lo all, can anyone tell me, is "menu" meant to be installed by default in ubuntu?
[04:04] <mebaran151_> btw, is this feature working in the Breezy installer
[04:04] <asda> anyone help me hoe to use ulimit ???
[04:04] <mebaran151_> what is menu?
[04:05] <phixion> dunno :o
[04:05] <uboyo> +-
[04:05] <phixion> just had to fix a broken package
[04:05] <phixion> and it wanted to install menu
[04:05] <XIII> i need to know how to setup the pc to use hiragana and kanji not only katakana to type in japanese??!!!
[04:06] <franlopez> hello all... i'm having some troubles starting the JACK system (audio stuff)... has anyone been using it?
[04:06] <Chris_Tucker> how do i set my samba server to allow guest access??!??!?!
[04:06] <] BreliC[> franlopez, what is the problem?
[04:06] <mebaran151_> HrdwrBoB: I was trying to add an LV to my VG
[04:07] <XIII> ??????
[04:07] <XIII> y do all ignore that??
[04:07] <franlopez> brelic: when i run the prgram (i'm using the gui version), i get this message
[04:07] <mebaran151_> lwhich is simply one and it tells me that it cryptically cant do it, without any reason at all
[04:07] <mebaran151_> and the error logs say nothing
[04:07] <nickrud> cuz we don't have a clue?
[04:07] <] BreliC[> franlopez, i have not really used JACK with Ubuntu, but have been with AGNULA (which is based on Ubuntu).  It's an audio distro with realtime kernel patch already in and all the audio apps installed and configured
[04:07] <benplaut> XIII: maybe it means that nobody knows an answer
[04:07] <franlopez> "Could not open ALSA sequenceras a client
[04:08] <asda> guys
[04:08] <franlopez> is agnula based on ubunt?
[04:08] <asda> help me
[04:08] <] BreliC[> franlopez, you could check out www.agnula.org
[04:08] <] BreliC[> franlopez, yes, based on ubuntu
[04:08] <benplaut> X111: try #ubuntu-jp
[04:08] <franlopez> so i can install it without unistalling my ubuntu?
[04:09] <XIII> lol
[04:09] <] BreliC[> franlopez, make sure you try DeMuDi in the download section of AGNULA.. that's the one based on Debian Ubuntu
[04:09] <XIII> just me there
[04:09] <] BreliC[> franlopez, i'm not sure about that..
[04:09] <XIII> benplaut, where can i find languages package to download and install??
[04:09] <raDeon> is it just me
[04:09] <raDeon> or does the saudi arabian guy
[04:09] <raDeon> who died
[04:09] <benplaut> X111: try in Synaptic
[04:09] <franlopez> yes, i've checked that one out a few minutes ago... it says there are two ways of installing, and one is with apt get.......
[04:10] <raDeon> look like he's 50 and not 83
[04:10] <benplaut> !repositories
[04:10] <ubotu> somebody said repositories was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto, or repos
[04:10] <[thomas] > !ulimit
[04:10] <ubotu> [thomas] : Are you smoking crack?
[04:10] <XIII> benplaut, what is synaptic?
[04:10] <benplaut> !synaptic
[04:10] <ubotu> synaptic is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[04:10] <[thomas] > !limit
[04:10] <ubotu> [thomas] : Are you smoking crack?
[04:10] <benplaut> read that...
[04:10] <] BreliC[> franlopez, ahh, then i guess you can.  i imagine it will patch the kernel as well?
[04:10] <[thomas] > benplaut can help dude
[04:10] <XIII> ok
[04:10] <benplaut> !info ulimit
[04:10] <franlopez> that was what i wasn't sure enough...
[04:10] <franlopez> mmmhhh... i guess i'll try that
[04:11] <erisco> seveas.... i know you can help me on this one for sure =0 but if anyone else can too thats great
[04:11] <benplaut> !info ulimit
[04:11] <ma3x> rob_p: are you still there Sir?
[04:11] <[thomas] > no info for that
[04:11] <[thomas] > how command to use ulimit ?
[04:11] <rob_p> ma3x:  Yup!
[04:11] <erisco> when i registered on www.dot.tk for my site, i pointed the domain towards my gateway
[04:11] <franlopez> ok brelic, i'll check that out now, thanks
[04:11] <benplaut> !find ulimit
[04:11] <erisco> well it doesn't work.... lol i know bad to say
[04:11] <[thomas] > i'm on ubuntuforums now
[04:11] <[thomas] > and not found
[04:11] <ma3x> thank god!
[04:12] <erisco> on firefox when i try to hit the gateway ip, it says the connection is refused
[04:12] <rob_p> ma3x:  What's up?
[04:12] <rob_p> ma3x:
[04:12] <levander> CD and DVD drives are considered optical drives right?
[04:12] <] BreliC[> franlopez, no prob.  i like it (though i still don't trust linux for my pro audio work.. the only reason i still keep a windows partition)
[04:12] <ma3x> rob_p: Sir, I think it works with the mail now, only thing is that it doesn't deliver
[04:12] <rob_p> ma3x:  Deliver to where?
[04:12] <[thomas] > Sir ?
[04:12] <ma3x> to the local mailbox
[04:13] <ma3x> it says Remote host said: 554 : Relay access denied
[04:13] <ma3x> and the IP does not like recipient.
[04:14] <rob_p> ma3x:  Yes, that is because you need to make sure that your postfix is setup to relay for your local machine (and any other "trusted" sources).
[04:14] <benplaut> sir?!
[04:14] <ma3x> how do I make sure of that Sir?
[04:14] <[thomas] > Sir benplaut can help me sir
[04:14] <ka234> lol
[04:14] <rob_p> alright guys...
[04:15] <[thomas] > !info ulimit
[04:15] <inCo> ive just downloaded "kvirc-3.2.0.tar.bz" and i need to know ow to go about installing it, im new to linnux so i usually use synaptic, but the latest version of kvirc wasnt listed so i downloaded the latest version from their site
[04:15] <benplaut> try !find ulimit
[04:15] <inCo> can anyone help me please??
[04:15] <[thomas] > inco try apt-get install kvirc
[04:15] <ma3x> rob_p: and also ssh is not opening port 22, although forwarded
[04:15] <[thomas] > !find ulimit
[04:15] <ma3x> maybe i didn't install ssh
[04:16] <[thomas] > inCo u can use sypnatic
[04:16] <[thomas] > and remove *.tar.bz
[04:16] <chris_> isn't the gnome-terminal supposed to close after 'exit'? mine does not close
[04:16] <ma3x> do I need to install openssh, or ssh server?
[04:16] <JoshRA> 56Is there anyway to install ubuntu from the internet
[04:16] <kram3r> hey all
[04:17] <JoshRA> my cdrom drive is not working all that good
[04:17] <inCo> synaptic comes with version 2
[04:17] <kram3r> anyone had luck with s3 suspend and ubuntu (or linux for that matter)
[04:17] <inCo> i dont know how to install files i have downlo9aded manually
[04:17] <[thomas] > use the last version Sir
[04:17] <rob_p> ma3x:  It's in the config file... look for directives, "mydestination", "mynetworks", and "smtpd_recipient_restrictions" and make sure that they are setup properly...
[04:17] <[thomas] > don't download maually
[04:17] <[thomas] > i try that and suck with tha
[04:17] <calc> kram3r: it apparently works on some machines ;)
[04:18] <erisco> alright i was a little unclear about that
[04:18] <kram3r> I have had great luck with suspend to disk, just suspend to ram always breaks
[04:18] <erisco> i went through again and found some more specific questions
[04:18] <rob_p> ma3x:  As far as ssh, check your sshd config file and make sure it's sane...
[04:18] <[thomas] > ubotu Package 'ulimit' does not exist.
[04:18] <ubotu> [thomas] : I haven't a clue
[04:18] <[thomas] > lol
[04:18] <erisco> when i type in apache2 in my terminal, it complains saying the server does not know its qualified domain name
[04:18] <kev0r> Anyone here using the hilightwin.pl script in IRssi?
[04:18] <kram3r> calc: yeah, I was hoping to sell my powerbook on ebay and use my dell with ubuntu
[04:18] <erisco> so it uses my computer's ip instead
[04:18] <ma3x> rob_p: I just seen Sir, it's not installed
[04:19] <ma3x> what version do you preffer openssh or ssh?
[04:19] <kram3r> calc: it works fine, but power management is difficult withouth suspend to ram
[04:19] <calc> [thomas] : ulimit is part of the shell
[04:19] <erisco> how can i configure a qualified domain name for apache2?
[04:19] <erisco> in the conf file?
[04:19] <rob_p> ma3x:  Well, that would explain it now wouldn't it!!!
[04:19] <erisco> and if so... i am having a hard time finding it
[04:19] <ma3x> rob_p: absolutely Sir!
[04:19] <calc> kram3r: aiui it works with some non broken laptops, but getting it working in general is going to take a lot of work
[04:19] <[thomas] > calc do u now use that ?
[04:19] <[thomas] > i dunno
[04:20] <erisco> does anyone get what i am saying?
[04:20] <[thomas] > can teach me sir
[04:20] <inCo> how do i install files downloaded via web browser then?
[04:20] <calc> esp since video card makers suck
[04:20] <nJess> how do i install ndiswrapper into ubuntu 64?
[04:20] <cafuego> nJess: Same way as on 32bit. Do you have 64bit Windows drivers?
[04:20] <erisco> hmmmmm i guess no one is catching onto my problem
[04:21] <calc> [thomas] : type help ulimit at console screen
[04:21] <nJess> cafuego, its not working
[04:21] <erisco> oh shoot, i am not in the right channel
[04:21] <nJess> i have the drivers
[04:21] <JoshRA> Hello is there away to install ubuntu i do not have a working cdrom drive. My old linux install is not working.
[04:21] <erisco> sorry about that
[04:21] <nJess> i can't get utils and whatnot
[04:21] <JoshRA> Network Install
[04:21] <inCo> or better still how do i install kvirc version 3.2.0? im a linux newcomer
[04:21] <cafuego> nJess: Are the drivers 64bit?
[04:21] <zany> hey
[04:21] <calc> [thomas] : what are you wanting to use ulimit for by the way?
[04:21] <parabolize> nJess: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowtoUseNdiswrapperOnAmd64Ubuntu
[04:21] <nJess> cafuego, i cannot even get that far
[04:21] <zany> what's the package to install sun-j2re please ?
[04:21] <nJess> the drivers are
[04:21] <nJess> parabolize, thanks
[04:21] <zany> i can't find it :(
[04:22] <[thomas] > thanks very much sir calc
[04:22] <[thomas] > okay brb
[04:22] <raDeon> Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:22] <calc> nJess: to use ndiswrapper on amd64 port you must have a 64bit windows driver for the nic
[04:23] <cafuego> Holy shit
[04:23] <Zodiac> hey guys, I cant get my DMA to stay on for /dev/hdc
[04:23] <Zodiac> Any idears?
[04:23] <zany> Zodiac, what's your mobo?
[04:23] <cafuego> Zodiac: Then either the controller, the cable or the drive is probbaly going to die.
[04:23] <JoshRA> Any ideas?
[04:23] <Zodiac> hmmm
[04:23] <cpt> aloo
[04:23] <Zodiac> Well
[04:23] <zany> kt7?
[04:23] <Zodiac> I can turn it on with the terminal
[04:24] <Zodiac> and everything works great
[04:24] <nJess> calc, i have them
[04:24] <Zodiac> but the code in the DMA dma = on isnt working
[04:24] <zany> Zodiac, what's your motherboard ?
[04:24] <Zodiac> ummm
[04:24] <Zodiac> hold on a sec
[04:24] <zany> k
[04:24] <zany> what's the package to install sun-j2re please ?
[04:24] <Zodiac> It is an IBM T40 laptop
[04:25] <zany> Zodiac, sorry that does not help
[04:25] <Zodiac> ok let me see
[04:25] <JoshRA> Hello I am trying to find away to install ubuntu from the internet because my cdrom drive does not work. Does anyone know away:?
[04:25] <calc> zany: its not in ubuntu since its not legal to distribute
[04:25] <zany> j2re ? no one ?
[04:25] <cafuego> zany: Dopwnload the .bin (not rpm) from Sun and create your own using the 'make-jpkg' command frok 'java-package'.
[04:26] <JoshRA> Hello I am trying to find away to install ubuntu from the internet because my cdrom drive does not work. Does anyone know away:?
[04:26] <zany> cafuego, thanks
[04:26] <Harold> Hello again all.
[04:27] <Zodiac> damn I have no idea
[04:27] <Harold> JoshRA: I've heard of a way you can do that...
[04:27] <Zodiac> Apparently Ubuntu doesnt know either
[04:27] <a3a> how do i mount the hd in ubuntu live?
[04:27] <aru> JoshRA: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-29358.html
[04:27] <Harold> JoshRA: You can install debian and then change the sources.list to install Ubuntu.
[04:27] <cafuego> JoshRA: you'll need a tftp server and some images you can use with it.
[04:28] <aru> JoshRA: I did a google search for Ubuntu net install and thats what it gave me
[04:28] <rob_p> JoshRA:  found this from a google search... maybe it'll help as well:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25269.html
[04:28] <Zodiac> zany, why would the motherboard make a differnce?
[04:28] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> Hey, can anyone help me network hoary and windows xp?
[04:28] <zany> because i just had the same problem
[04:28] <zany> until i changed the mobo this morning
[04:28] <zany> now everything is fine
[04:29] <Zodiac> hmmm
[04:29] <Zodiac> even with the code added to hdparm?
[04:29] <zany> i had hdd dma problems
[04:29] <ma3x> Sir rob_p : May I ask you if postfix reads the configuration of usr/share/postfix/main.cf.dist as well, or I have to enter all options from there to /etc/postfix/main.cf ?
[04:29] <QMario>  Is there a "Package Manager" for SUSE?
[04:29] <Zodiac> I don't seem to have any once it is enabled
[04:29] <lamont>  ma3x main.cf.dist is the defaults for all the values.
[04:29] <aru> QMario: try #suse
[04:30] <JoshRA> rob_p: since i can not use a cdrom
[04:30] <ma3x> lamont: I am sorry I didn't get that, is it the default file for all the values?
[04:30] <Nefarous> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: what do you need?
[04:30] <JoshRA> i can not install debian
[04:30] <zany> :oP
[04:30] <lamont> ma3x: postconf -d
[04:30] <lamont> the that's how main.cf.dist is created.
[04:30] <aru> JoshRA: try the link I pasted
[04:30] <JoshRA> i do not haev a tftp server
[04:30] <JoshRA> or a linux server
[04:30] <JoshRA> i can use
[04:30] <lamont> main.cf is only the non-default values.  main.cf.dist is there for your reading pleasure, and nothing more
[04:30] <Harold> JoshRA: Sorry, JoshRA.  That's the only way I know how to do it.
[04:31] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> Once more, anyone know how to use samba to create a local network with windows?
[04:31] <aru> JoshRA: did you try the link I pasted
[04:31] <aru> !samba
[04:31] <ubotu> methinks samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[04:31] <Zodiac> Does anybody else have any ideas as to why my DMA will not turn on by default?
[04:31] <Hoxzer> :D I found out that you have to have some free space in HDD so Ubuntu can start
[04:31] <JoshRA> aru: trhat is what i am talking about
[04:31] <aru> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: try the link ubotu said
[04:31] <aru> JoshRA: are you sure?
[04:31] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> ubotu rocks. thank you
[04:31] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Cry_Ubuntu_Mac
[04:31] <JoshRA> 22:27:45 < aru> JoshRA: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-29358.html
[04:32] <nJess> okay, i have the correct drivers
[04:32] <aru> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: did you order a ubuntu cd from ubuntu.com?
[04:32] <aru> err
[04:32] <nJess> but when i do modprobe ndiswrapper it stops responding
[04:32] <rob_p> JoshRA:  It's hard to live without a CDROM drive these days... maybe you should consider investing in one!  They can be had for just a few bucks if you look around...
[04:32] <zany> cafuego, i got the .bin - now i have to get the package "java-common" ? that's right ?
[04:32] <JoshRA> rob_p: mine had just borke
[04:32] <Nefarous> Are there any hot keys to toggle between virtual desktops? On KDE it's Alt-Tab, does ubuntu/gnome have anything similar?
[04:32] <aru> JoshRA: did you try ordering a cd from ubuntu
[04:33] <JoshRA> yes but my cdrom drive is broken so that is no help tp me
[04:33] <aru> JoshRA: did you try taking the soda cans to the store?
[04:33] <JoshRA> to busy with work :/
[04:34] <aru> oh so you have a job... wait until payday and get a cdr :)
[04:34] <JoshRA> 2 weeks
[04:34] <JoshRA> >.<
[04:34] <JoshRA> i can not stand being in windows that long
[04:34] <Davey> JoshRA, got a floppy drive?
[04:34] <JaZy84> i think i'm just going to reinstall but this time use a 5.04 to fix my mp3 playback problem :(
[04:34] <JoshRA> i will throw the computer out the window
[04:34] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> yeah, ubotu, aru that was it. thanks.
[04:34] <JoshRA> yes Davey i do
[04:34] <Davey> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29358
[04:34] <Davey> might be of interest ;)
[04:35] <aru> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: awesome, you can try !anything with that bot and almost always get a match
[04:35] <SquareGuy> Nefarous, look under System/Preferences/Keyboard Shortcuts.  you can set it up however you like
[04:35] <Davey> JoshRA, oh, looks like someone laready gave you that link
[04:36] <JoshRA> yes
[04:36] <Nefarous> SquareGuy: thanks I'm already there, it hit me after I typed in the question ...
[04:36] <JoshRA> for some reason
[04:36] <JoshRA> the fl;oppy isnot reasoning
[04:36] <Jhonen> Guys I am having trouble, I installed Ubuntu and now I can't find Microsoft Explorer
[04:36] <SquareGuy> Nefarous, np
[04:36] <cafuego> aru/Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: And if not, there's also the !listkeys <string> or !listvals <string> commands for searching factoids by keyword.
[04:36] <Chris_Tucker> how do i set my samba server to allow guest access?? THAT is access without a login prompt on the remote computer???????????????
[04:36] <Davey> Chris_Tucker, you only need one ? in the english language
[04:36] <nalioth> Jhonen: that is a serious problem
[04:36] <Jhonen> :(
[04:37] <Jhonen> I can't find my games either
[04:37] <Chris_Tucker> Davey it seems that doesnt work anymore in here
[04:37] <equex> where is a good place to put commands you want run right before the desktop is loaded ?
[04:37] <aru> Jhonen: what are you trying to do?
[04:37] <Davey> Chris_Tucker, and try editing the /etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:37] <cafuego> Jhonen: Did you tell the installer to use the entire disk?
[04:37] <equex> i seem to have no rc.boot ir rc.local
[04:37] <Jhonen> I wanted to install linux because I heard it was good
[04:37] <Jhonen> now I can't find microsoft internet explorer
[04:37] <nalioth> equex: system > preferences > session mangler
[04:37] <Jhonen> It has my book marks
[04:37] <cafuego> Jhonen: Are you running Linux at the moment?
[04:37] <aru> Jhonen: it is, but did you try Applications > Internet > Mozilla Firefox?
[04:38] <Jhonen> No
[04:38] <Chris_Tucker> Davey that doesnt seem to contain what i need. the access line for user-specific line is commented out
[04:38] <Jhonen> This is my friends computer
[04:38] <t3rror> does anyone know how to set my nic to wake on lan?
[04:38] <Davey> Chris_Tucker, GIYF
[04:38] <t3rror> i want to be able to ssh into my router and then wake this machine from there
[04:38] <aru> Jhonen: Firefox is a web browser which kicks IEs arse, try that
[04:38] <cafuego> Jhonen: Did you tell the installer to overwrite the entire disk on your own computer?
[04:38] <Jhonen> But where did all my software go!?
[04:38] <aru> Jhonen: :)
[04:38] <Jhonen> I told it to use the whole thing
[04:38] <auk> Jhonen, it is impossible to completely remove IE form windwos...w/o seriously messing up the system
[04:38] <cafuego> Jhonen: Then it wiped EVERYTHING.
[04:38] <Chris_Tucker> Davey GIYF?
[04:39] <Davey> Chris_Tucker, Google Is Your Friend
[04:39] <Jhonen> WIPED!? It didn't say it would wipe out all the software!?
[04:39] <equex> nalioth: alright, trying to find that :D
[04:39] <t3rror> holy shit....
[04:39] <Chris_Tucker> Davey, i am aware of this
[04:39] <cafuego> Jhonen: What did you think would happen then?
[04:39] <auk> Jhonen: you told it to use the whole drive?
[04:39] <t3rror> did this guy just format his hd and not know it
[04:39] <Jhonen> I thought it would look like the screen shots
[04:39] <Jhonen> and i'd just close it when I was done
[04:39] <cafuego> t3rror: yeah
[04:39] <t3rror> hah
[04:39] <t3rror> that is entertainment
[04:39] <rob_p> Jhonen:  Your PC has been assimilated (sp?)...
[04:39] <t3rror> i hope you didn't have anything important on there
[04:40] <Nefarous> either that or he's just having phun with us
[04:40] <t3rror> all the pron and mp3's are gone
[04:40] <Jhonen> XD
[04:40] <raDeon> what's the command to see load
[04:40] <nJess> hey, are there any known issues with IPN2220 chipset wireless cards in 64bit os?
[04:40] <Jhonen> I wouldn't have fun
[04:40] <cafuego> Jhonen: No, it creates a partition on disk and installs to that. It normally lives side by side with windows, but if you wold it to use the entire disk, it wiped windows.
[04:40] <Davey> raDeon, top
[04:40] <auk> Jhonen: if you told it to wip[e the drive, you didn't think it would wipe the drive?!?
[04:40] <Jhonen> Really?
[04:40] <raDeon> what's the other one
[04:40] <Davey> Jhonen, and every single file on the disk
[04:40] <raDeon> that just shows you the load averages
[04:40] <t3rror> anything on the wake on lan settings?
[04:40] <windex> raDeon, w
[04:40] <Davey> raDeon, uptime?
[04:40] <raDeon> ah yeah uptime
[04:40] <t3rror> its all toast jhonen
[04:40] <Jhonen> I thought wiping would clean it, I didnt think it was the same as delete
[04:40] <raDeon> and what is "w"
[04:41] <cafuego> nalioth: Sheesh, haven't you had a shower? ;-)
[04:41] <Nefarous> now I know he's screwing with us
[04:41] <CarlFK> Jhonen - (I am assuming you are telling the truth) It did warn you, and ask you at least one more time.
[04:41] <nalioth> Jhonen: your windows has been cleansed
[04:41] <auk> nalioth: rofl
[04:41] <auk> Jhonen: it did clean th edrive...of windows
[04:41] <aru> either he was really dumb, or just really dumb
[04:41] <cafuego> windex: What did you do to Jhonens windows?
[04:42] <SquareGuy> I think the default install should wipe windows without asking ;)
[04:42] <t3rror> you should have used knoppix
[04:42] <t3rror> lol
[04:42] <windex> cafuego, right, blame me! it was.. TROGDOR!
[04:42] <rob_p> Jhonen:  I'd say it did a great job of "cleaning" your PC!
[04:42] <auk> Jhonen: it sanitized your hard drive
[04:42] <auk> no more FAT :D
[04:42] <cafuego> windex: How can I not blame you? ;-)
[04:42] <Nefarous> he's gone, no more wiping discussion, he was screwing with us anyhow ...
[04:42] <windex> cafuego, watch it, or i will build cpanbuntu, a version of ubuntu that updates via cpan and not apt!
[04:43] <cafuego> ANd if not, it's probably too much to hope ha had a backup.
[04:43] <aru> Nefarous: I almost felt sorry for the guy for a minute
[04:43] <rob_p> yeah... talk about trimmin' the FAT... he, he, he
[04:43] <Nefarous> windex: now that is funny!
[04:43] <cafuego> windex: As lithp script under EmacsOS?
[04:43] <auk> Nefarious: but of course
[04:43] <windex> cafuego, buaha.
[04:43] <SquareGuy> spwaking of wiping though what is some good hardware to actually wipe a drive, i'm gonna have to send my laptop in for service soon.
[04:43] <windex> cafuego, instead of X you'll get a emacs login window! it'll be schweet!
[04:43] <SquareGuy> i meant software duh
[04:43] <nalioth> SquareGuy: shred
[04:43] <cafuego> SquareGuy: /dev/hammer
[04:43] <auk> Nefarious: if i thought he was serious, i woudl have been nicer ;D
[04:44] <SquareGuy> nalioth, cafuego thx
[04:44] <Nefarous> :)
[04:44] <cafuego> SquareGuy: After my suggestion you'll need a new drive, though.
[04:44] <aru> auk: I actually gave the guy the menu links to open Firefox... maybe I'm the dumb one :)
[04:44] <SquareGuy> cafuego, well that wouldnt be any good then
[04:44] <nalioth> SquareGuy: cafuego's method will definitely secure your data
[04:44] <linlin> is there any way i can mount a bin/cue as a cdrom drive or hard drive?
[04:45] <equex> nalioth: are you talking about the session manager in the control centre ?
[04:45] <cafuego> aru: You can't automagically assume anyonbe asking a dumb question is a troll..
[04:45] <nalioth> SquareGuy: the "shred" method might leave something that 4 or 5 superputers would need a few years to pull up
[04:45] <windex> cafuego, emabuntucpan will rule the world!
[04:45] <aru> cafuego: but I can assume you are!!! :)
[04:45] <auk> aru: i do not see how anyone that stupid would be abl eto get his comp to boot from an install cd in the first place...the installer warns you like, five times
[04:45] <nalioth> equex: system > preferences > session
[04:45] <cafuego> linlin: No, you must convert it to iso first. use bchunk
[04:45] <windex> SquareGuy, just drill a hole through the disk platter and call it done.
[04:45] <windex> SquareGuy, anyone who wants to work around that deserves your data.
[04:45] <linlin> bchunk will convert it to iso?
[04:45] <auk> cafuego: *
[04:46] <cafuego> aru: I CAN'T GET CLICK-N-RUN TO INSTALL ANYTHING!!!?
[04:46] <aru> auk: he did say he was using a friends computer, so maybe he booted in, deleted everything... ah fsck it
[04:46] <nalioth> cafuego: "a" dumb question, no, but a whole series of the most stupid lines of reasoning?
[04:46] <aru> heh
[04:46] <cafuego> nalioth: You'd be surprised...
[04:46] <equex> nalioth: heh i forgot i was in #ubuntu.. i  am using kde
[04:46] <aru> if I had click-n-run, I wouldn't need to work out anymore
[04:46] <SquareGuy> windex, hehe nah i will need to use the drive again
[04:46] <auk> equex: buuuuuurrrnn at the STAKE!
[04:46] <nalioth> cafuego: the "i cant find IE" gave it away (classic trolling line)
[04:47] <nalioth> equex: i'm not familiar with KDE and its startup mechanisms
[04:47] <auk> aru: lol
[04:47] <cafuego> nalioth: I was thinking he meant he couldn't boot windows
[04:47] <aru> auk: glad someone caught that
[04:47] <cafuego> nalioth: ... coz he wiped it.
[04:47] <skalpel> how can i play wma files in ubuntu?
[04:47] <aru> cafuego: glad to see I wasn't the only one fooled
[04:47] <aru> !wma
[04:47] <ubotu> aru: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:47] <aru> !mp3
[04:47] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[04:47] <auk> aru: yeah, but it was a pretty lame joke :)
[04:47] <aru> heh
[04:47] <Nefarous> I'm trying to build Qt4, what package contains X11/Xlib.h ?
[04:47] <cafuego> !w32codecs
[04:47] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a set of codecs needed to play many common audio and video formats, such as WMV. You can install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repositories (see: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org).
[04:47] <nalioth> !info w32codecs
[04:47] <paradizelost> hey all.  how do i get mount.cifs support???
[04:48] <aru> auk: I wasn't sure how to spell excersize... (sp)
[04:48] <skalpel> no more codecs.
[04:48] <skalpel> =)
[04:48] <cafuego> !find mount.cifs
[04:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'mount.cifs' (3 shown): (/sbin/mount.cifs) in otherosfs/smbfs ;; (/usr/share/samba/swat/help/mount.cifs.8.html) in universe/net/swat ;; (/usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/mount.cifs.8.html) in doc/samba-doc.
[04:48] <windex> skalpel, i beleive some builds of VLC make this possible. http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[04:48] <cafuego> paradizelost: install 'smbfs'
[04:49] <Madpilot> nalioth: see one "I can't find IE on Linux" that might not be a troll: http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=94318
[04:49] <cafuego> !dict excercise
[04:49] <ubotu> could not find definition for excercise
[04:49] <cafuego> ubotu: you lie
[04:49] <ubotu> cafuego: Wish i knew
[04:49] <linlin> cafuego, gow do i use this bchunk?
[04:49] <cafuego> linlin: man bchunk
[04:49] <linlin> how**
[04:50] <rob_p> SquareGuy:  Is it you that was asking about wiping a hard disk?
[04:50] <t3rror> no one here is interested in letting me in on the wake on lan features in ubuntu?
[04:50] <cafuego> SquareGuy: You could also just plonk a password on the bootloader (or remove the HD)
[04:50] <windex> t3rror, wake on lan is typically a bios feature.
[04:50] <SquareGuy> rob_p, yeah i was just reading about shred and it doesnt look like it will do what i need
[04:50] <ma3x> cafuego: can you please help me with postfix?
[04:51] <t3rror> windex, what if the nic isn't onboard the motherboard
[04:51] <levander> If you write a multi-session disc, can you read all the sessions?  Or, just the last session written?
[04:51] <rob_p> SquareGuy:  Check this out:  http://dban.sourceforge.net/  It's a bootable cd that you can use to wipe all data from the drive.  I think it has an NSA-level wiping scheme...
[04:51] <Nefarous> SquareGuy: how serious of a wipe do you want?  You can simply use dd to write 0's, or you can do government standard 7 pass wipes ...
[04:51] <t3rror> it is an add-in pci
[04:51] <rob_p> SquareGuy:  I've used it before... it's pretty good!
[04:51] <lamont> ma3x: what are you trying to do with postfix?
[04:51] <cafuego> Next time, don't put goatpr0n on it to begin with ;-)
[04:52] <skalpel> if i have to instance of synaptic running but i still get this error: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[04:52] <skalpel> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[04:52] <skalpel>  when trying to use apt-get what does it mean?
[04:52] <cafuego> skalpel: It needs to run as root.
[04:52] <ma3x> lamont: I am trying to send myself email from my Yahoo to my local
[04:52] <cafuego> skalpel: 'sudo synaptic'
[04:52] <ma3x> Remote host said: 554<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Relay access denied
[04:52] <skalpel> ok, thank you
[04:53] <ma3x> and I get this Giving up on <IP_ADDRESS>.
[04:53] <ma3x> <IP_ADDRESS> does not like recipient.
[04:53] <SquareGuy> rob_p, thx ill look at it Nefarous i didnt see an option for entire drive, just files and it said for individual files i would need a non-journaled file system and i use ext3
[04:53] <windex> t3rror, unless the board/nic support it, ubuntu, to my knowledge, has no way to boot the computer, as it is not executing anything if the machine is powered off.
[04:53] <lamont> ma3x: and you have inet_interfaces = all (or commented out) in /etc/postfix/main.cf?
[04:53] <ma3x> lamont: I have them commented
[04:53] <lamont> and what do you have for mydestination?
[04:53] <skalpel> can someoen explain to me how to find broken packages in synaptic?
[04:53] <ma3x> mydestination = localhost.localdomain, localhost.localdomain, localhost
[04:54] <Zartan> I found good instruction getting Logitech QuickCam Express running in Ubuntu, but I haven't found any english language page. So I haven't webcam runnig yet. Could someone help me or translate one of help pages? :)
[04:54] <windex> t3rror, if you are talking about exiting apci sleep on lan activity, that may be possible, but i've never done it.
[04:54] <lamont> add the hostname, postfix reload, and all should be well
[04:54] <ma3x> lamont: can i just put localhost?
[04:54] <ma3x> that won't resolve ?
[04:54] <jasmuz> Zartan: if you find one in spanish i would translate it for ya
[04:54] <lamont> ma3x: well, if you can send email to localhost and have it arrive at your machine, then it'll work.  but I don't think yahoo will route localhost to your machine
[04:54] <Zartan> jasmuz :) I try
[04:55] <ma3x> lamont: what should i put at relayhost ?
[04:55] <ma3x> also the hostname?
[04:55] <Nefarous> SquareGuy: everything is a file in Linux, dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda, but you obviously can't do it to the hard drive while the OS is on it :)  Either use a boot CD, or make it a secondary disk
[04:55] <lamont> if the destination domain name is not in mydestination, then postfix assumes that it must relay for that domain
[04:55] <SquareGuy> Nefarous, i got ya now ithought you were talking about shred
[04:55] <rob_p> ma3x:  You need to study a little more about the proper requirements for setting up a mailserver that participates on a public network.  It really should be on a static IP with proper forward and reverse DNS entries for a domain that you control.  Then, you should take the time to make sure it will only deliver mail from local/trusted hosts and that it will only receive external mail for which it considers itself the final de
[04:55] <rob_p> stination.
[04:55] <auk> !/dev/hammer
[04:55] <ubotu> I don't know, auk
[04:55] <lamont> ma3x: if your ISP requires that you use a relay host, you'll want that hostname in [] .  If you can deliver mail directly, then you probably want to leave relayhost blank
[04:56] <auk> :(
[04:57] <aru> cafuego: how is it you get ubotu to message someone a link?
[04:57] <jantan21> hellow all
[04:57] <cralost> hi everyone
[04:57] <haon99> what is this ubuntu
[04:57] <Madpilot> aur "tell <foo> about <bar>"
[04:57] <nalioth> aru:  you say !tell <whomever> about <factoid>
[04:57] <rob_p> ma3x:  What is your purpose for running your own MTA other than local mail delivery (which can be done on local loopback)?
[04:57] <haon99> what makes it better than other linux distros?
[04:58] <aru> ok
[04:58] <nalioth> aru: or you /msg ubotu tell <whomever> about <factoid>
[04:58] <aru> awesome, thanks
[04:58] <aru> I've found its easier to type !foo than to actually help people
[04:59] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[04:59] <ubotu> it has been said that ubotu is uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu!
[04:59] <windex> haon99, it's about what you like to use. ubuntu provides an easy to use, debian based gnome desktop, that looks pretty good and works well regardless of your experience level.
[04:59] <jantan21> how domain for ubuntu
[04:59] <haon99> I see
[04:59] <aru> !tell aru about mp3
[04:59] <aru> ok thats easy enough
[05:00] <auk> hehe, ubotu's got an ego, i see
[05:00] <aru> haon99: are you a windows user?
[05:01] <ma3x> rob_p: I can't get it working Sir, it says localhost.localdomain loops back to myself
[05:01] <ma3x> but it should loop to itself, right?
[05:01] <auk> !linux
[05:01] <ubotu> rumour has it, linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[05:03] <amarcucci> hey, sorry if it seems like a stupid thing to ask, what do i have to add to fstab to mount another ntfs hard drive?
[05:03] <aru> amarcucci: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html <- good fstab info
[05:03] <Madpilot> auk: you can do "/msg ubotu <foo>" if you want to chat with the bot at length
[05:03] <lJlolel> hello
[05:03] <rob_p> ma3x:  You didn't answer my question...  Properly setting up an MTA takes a little more than just "tinkering" with configs until you get it to work.  Blindly putting an MTA on the 'Net can cause both you and your ISP some trouble!
[05:04] <lJlolel> just installed ubuntu, Screen Resolution doesn't open
[05:04] <auk> Madpilot: we are allowed to caht w/ him at length?
[05:04] <aru> lJlolel: system > preferences > screen resolution?
[05:04] <amarcucci> thanks, I'll check it out
[05:04] <Madpilot> auk: sure. it's useful if you've got a bunch of questions, or are writing new blurbs for ubotu
[05:05] <lJlolel> right, i click it, i get the waiting icon in the bar, but then it closes and no window opens
[05:05] <ma3x> I want only local mail transfer agent
[05:05] <aru> weird
[05:05] <auk> hmm, i though the powers that be didn't liek people taxing bots
[05:05] <cafuego> auk: I've already paid GST on ubotu
[05:06] <rob_p> ma3x:  Then why open it up to the 'Net in the first place?
[05:06] <ma3x> rob_p: do you know if kmail can check web mail from hotmail?
[05:06] <Madpilot> cafuego: :)
[05:06] <ma3x> rob_p: to be able to send??
[05:07] <rob_p> ma3x:  Not sure.  I don't use Hotmail and don't know what capabilities they offer.  Most certainely they won't let you connect to their SMTP service for sending unless they require credentials, etc.
[05:07] <lJlolel> my screen is currently 640x480 :(
[05:08] <f_newton> hotmail is horrible
[05:08] <Madpilot> !resolution
[05:08] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:08] <f_newton> gmail is good
[05:08] <six2one> has anyone tried breezy lately? does x die after apt?
[05:08] <lJlolel> thanks!
[05:08] <cafuego> six2one: yes
[05:08] <aru> f_newton: some of us are stuck with hotmail
[05:08] <cafuego> !info xutils breezy
[05:08] <ubotu> xutils: (X Window System utility programs), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-42 (breezy), Packaged size: 60 kB, Installed size: 156 kB
[05:08] <lJlolel> and do you suggest xfce?
[05:08] <cafuego> aru: gmail
[05:08] <rob_p> ma3x:  If you want you MTA to be able to send e-mail out to the 'Net, configure it to relay via your ISP's smarthost.
[05:08] <Amaranth> six2one: Supposedly right now an upgrade from hoary to breezy will somewhat work.
[05:08] <lJlolel> resolution
[05:09] <lJlolel> what does !resolution mean?
[05:09] <esac_> I am running linux on an old laptop (p2 366). On it I have apache. I tried downloading a file locally to another system, and it copied ok. But afterwards, my linux box is freezing, "top" shows a lot of time (81%) being spent in "wa" under CPU times and I don't know what that is
[05:09] <Amaranth> six2one: I mean X will somewhat work.
[05:09] <aru> cafuego: I have MSN as my isp...
[05:09] <auk> aru: i feel sorry for you
[05:09] <cafuego> Amaranth: xutils -42 is the broken one.
[05:09] <esac_> there also seems to be a lot of time being spent in apache2
[05:09] <aru> auk: I love you too
[05:09] <cafuego> aru: So?
[05:09] <windex> aru: if you honestly do not have a gmail account by now...  and ubotu will respond
[05:09] <gigaclon> :)
[05:09] <ma3x> rob_p: how do i discover my isp's smarthost?
[05:09] <Amaranth> six2one: xrdb, xauth, xprop, and some more
[05:09] <whitefang> i just installed ubuntu, and i don't remember it giving me the option to set a root password
[05:09] <benplaut> gigaclon: we all have them
[05:09] <lJlolel> !resolution
[05:09] <ubotu> I guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:09] <lJlolel> oh i see, thanks
[05:10] <aru> like that :)
[05:10] <gigaclon> :)
[05:10] <Madpilot> !sudo
[05:10] <ubotu> it has been said that sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:10] <benplaut> ^^read that
[05:10] <Madpilot> whitefang: see ubotu's post
[05:10] <auk> !tell lJlolel about resolution
[05:10] <cafuego> Amaranth: My version -33 isn't (and IT contains the tools needed) was there a busted depend?
[05:10] <six2one> hoary cant update properly for me anymore and i cant download the packages i need anymore, cause thet fail
[05:10] <Amaranth> cafuego: err, what?
[05:10] <rob_p> ma3x:  What (sub) domain name did they provide for their SMTP service?  That's what you'd probably use...
[05:10] <lJlolel> auk, heh thats neat
[05:11] <Amaranth> cafuego: you're missing xprop, xrdb, xauth, these are all seperated out, xutils is supposed to depend on them
[05:11] <aru> lJlolel: it works with almost every question you have :)
[05:11] <six2one> so i was hopeful that breezy made progress to where its useable
[05:11] <auk> aru: not true
[05:11] <rob_p> ma3x:  ...something like mail.yourisp.com or similar...
[05:11] <cafuego> Amaranth: xutils 6.8.2-33 on amd64 is what I had to install to get the tools back (worked fine)
[05:11] <benplaut> i said that i wouldn't re-install windows onto their computer (4 years without a reinstall... ouch) unless they let me have 10gb for Ubuntu, and they have to promise to give it some time...
[05:11] <benplaut> success!
[05:11] <Amaranth> cafuego: i dunno if -42 does or not but it is supposed to
[05:11] <Amaranth> cafuego: reread what i just said
[05:11] <whitefang> sweet, thanks.
[05:11] <aru> auk: well once he gets his resolution set he probably wants to play an mp3
[05:11] <cafuego> !depedns xutils breezy
[05:11] <ubotu> cafuego: I give up, what is it?
[05:11] <auk> aru, lol
[05:11] <aru> :)
[05:12] <cafuego> Amaranth: I understand what you just said.
[05:12] <Amaranth> cafuego: reread it again
[05:12] <Amaranth> cafuego: Don't tell me X is broken, I'm looking at it working.
[05:12] <cafuego> Amaranth: I fixed it by downgrading to a non-metapackage version.
[05:12] <ma3x> rob_p: I didn't find any option 'smarthost' in the config file, what is the exact option name Sir?
[05:12] <aru> why sir?
[05:12] <hmrocha> hello
[05:12] <hmrocha> x is still broken?
[05:12] <hmrocha> :(
[05:12] <rob_p> ma3x:  look for "relayhost" or similar...
[05:12] <cafuego> Amaranth: The depends are not fixed as of the current list on ubotu.
[05:13] <mebaran151> Amaranth: how do you fix X
[05:13] <ma3x> Why, because I call Sir rob_p Sir
[05:13] <hmrocha> i was just thinking about installing breezy colony-2
[05:13] <Amaranth> cafuego: reread what I said
[05:13] <ma3x> because he is a Sir
[05:13] <Amaranth> cafuego: I said they might not be yet.
[05:13] <mebaran151> hmrocha: it works
[05:13] <knowledge_> ok, I've done this a million times and can't seem to remember for the life of me...how do I add something to modprobe?
[05:13] <Amaranth> cafuego: And I mentioned some of the things you need to install.
[05:13] <aru> ma3x: good enough for me
[05:13] <mebaran151> but upgrade really carefully
[05:13] <cafuego> Amaranth: Just conforming it :-)
[05:13] <windex> ma3x, he's been knighted?
[05:13] <cafuego> s/o/i/
[05:13] <rob_p> he, he!
[05:13] <Amaranth> mebaran151: You need to install xrdb, xauth, xprop, xinit, and maybe a couple of other packages
[05:13] <Zartan> jasmuz: I found only french :/ http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=54071. This thing may be good get to HowTo - page in future
[05:13] <skalpel> can someone tell me why i get a small blip coming from the file i want to play before th file actually starts to play in rhythmbox?
[05:13] <ma3x> rob_p: Thank you, and have a good night Sir!
[05:14] <Amaranth> mebaran151: make sure xkeyboard-config is installed properly (try reinstalling it)
[05:14] <rob_p> That's ok... we're all sirs in my book!
[05:14] <rob_p> ma3x:  Ok... take care!
[05:14] <hmrocha> mebaran151, i'll install breezy colony-2 from the cd, in another partition, just to be safe :)
[05:14] <whitefang> hmmm
[05:14] <whitefang> weird
[05:14] <Mr> I have just installed Ubuntu and cannot find my other harddrive?
[05:14] <Amaranth> knowledge_: You mean make a module load on boot up?
[05:14] <Amaranth> knowledge_: /etc/modules
[05:14] <gigaclon> !mount
[05:14] <ubotu> well, mount is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:14] <aru> Mr: was it ntfs?
[05:14] <knowledge_> Amaranth, Mann!...that's what it is...
[05:14] <amarcucci> what should I do if after mounting a hard drive i get a notice saying that I don't have the necessary permission to view its contents?
[05:14] <thrice`> Mr, dmesg | grep hd
[05:14] <knowledge_> I sweat I think I'm slow sometimes
[05:14] <thrice`> find it yourself :)
[05:14] <knowledge_> swear**
[05:15] <mebaran151> amarucci, you have to add a option to the mount
[05:15] <gigaclon> !tell Mr about mount
[05:15] <mebaran151> users is the normal one
[05:15] <mebaran151> I believe
[05:15] <mebaran151> it is either user or users
[05:15] <amarcucci> y added auto,user
[05:15] <amarcucci> I*
[05:15] <mebaran151> I think you need users
[05:15] <mebaran151> user will mount with root as the user
[05:15] <mulhollandj> good evening, I am trying to get mp3 player software working on my system - I can listen to .ogg files with music player but I can't get any sound from amorak, noatun, or juk - any ideas?
[05:16] <gigaclon> MrTeatime, did you read wiki page
[05:16] <Madpilot> ubotu tell mulhollandj about mp3
[05:16] <chibifs> Hey, I know this is a longshot, but does anyone know of a full-screen window manager (Other than matchbox)? Or maybe something that allows you to run specific programs as panels?
[05:17] <MrTeatime> Working on it now
[05:17] <chibifs> I'm trying to build a unique interface for a mobile device, but with little effort :P
[05:18] <windex> chibifs, i'd like to suggest you go to school, get an MBA, and then hire lackeys to do the real work? :D
[05:19] <Zartan> jasmuz: Understand you french language?
[05:19] <chibifs> windex - No point, these technologies already exist in matchbox and the swallow application for the gnome panel.
[05:19] <poningru> whats a good way to monitor your cpu temp? I want something in the panel or something
[05:19] <windex> k. :)
[05:19] <chibifs> I'm just looking to see if there are other options.
[05:19] <cafuego> poningru: ln-sensors is the *only* way.
[05:19] <windex> poningru, i don't think the kernel modules required to do motherboard sensor polling are actually in the mainstream kernel yet?
[05:20] <cafuego> windex: They have been for ages
[05:20] <windex> oh.
[05:20] <windex> ok. :)
[05:20] <Madpilot> lm-sensors works - with xsensors or ksensors for front-end
[05:20] <poningru> ok
[05:20] <poningru> will that go into the notification area?
[05:20] <Madpilot> poningru: the front-end will.
[05:20] <draft> need to install 2.6.12 kernel on hoary for sound card, what's the best way to do that ?
[05:20] <windex> cafuego, last time i had to use it, was on debian, the debian install package wouldn't work with 2.6, and the 2.6 kernel tree wasn't compatible with new lm-sensors from source.
[05:20] <equex> one more thing (only slightly kde related this time). i have a problem with my dvdrom. it used to work properly (i installed the ubuntu dvd with it too), now suddenly it cant read any DVD roms, though it CAN read normal CD's. It detects that i insert a DVD too, though i get "Malformed URL" from Konquerer if i try to access it. any idea ?
[05:21] <poningru> hehe
[05:21] <poningru> thanks guys
[05:21] <cafuego> windex: [13:11]   + windex stabs cafuego for having a cooler machine than he does.  <-- what's that all about?
[05:21] <windex> cafuego, you're on amd64 :(
[05:22] <cafuego> windex: That's coz lm-sensors is IN the 2.6 kernel.
[05:22] <poningru> equex: have you tried opening it with another dvd player?
[05:22] <poningru> like vlc or somethin?
[05:22] <cafuego> windex: nothing cooler about amd64
[05:22] <chibifs> For the most part, I'm trying to build something like centericq, but system-wide (for a PDA). Have something going like XFCE vs KDE/GNOME for the PDA Linux market :P
[05:22] <windex> cafuego, tempature wise, no. bragging rights? yes.
[05:22] <chibifs> Everyone uses opie or gpe!   How can I fix it?
[05:26] <iana> pestilence? sorry, iam kinda new to linux or ubuntu
[05:26] <Madpilot> ubotu forget knowledge
[05:26] <ubotu> i forgot knowledge, Madpilot
[05:26] <iana> where i put that command?
[05:26] <pestilence> iana: if you open up a terminal and type "ps aux" (no quotes), you will get a list of everything that is running on your machine
[05:27] <iana> okay, ill try, thanks
[05:27] <cafuego> !lock knowledge
[05:27] <ubotu> locking factoid knowledge, cafuego
[05:27] <skalpel> what does it mean if you get the error 'nautilus could not show burn:// in nautilus when burning a cd?
[05:27] <Madpilot> iana: type "ps aux |less" and it won't be a huge scrolling mess. type "q" to get out of less
[05:27] <windex> cafuego va Madpilot, which ego will win! on the next as the #ubuntu turns...
[05:28] <cafuego> windex: I have root access on the ubotu machine; place your bets now..
[05:28] <Madpilot> windex: cafuego: ha ha. just because cafuego can lock stuff in... ;)
[05:28] <cefx> :D
[05:28] <windex> cafuego, maybe Madpilot has 2-3 spare ds3's and a ping -f command. then who wins! :D
[05:29] <knowledge_> anyone know how to take care of -- Failed to construct test pipeline for 'OSS - Open Sound System'
[05:29] <Madpilot> windex: was that English?
[05:29] <knowledge_> ?
[05:29] <cafuego> windex: I expect that won't make too much difference over people leeching ISos as it is.
[05:29] <windex> Madpilot, nope.
[05:29] <windex> cafuego, right.
[05:29] <iana> pestilence: well, i did what youve said, it reply more then 20 services, well actually i need to know if theres no such a key logger software in this public pc? how to check that? well in windoze, theres msconfig
[05:29] <cafuego> Well, my hosting provider might send his ISP an angry email ;-)
[05:30] <CarlFK> after I stop shorewall, my box doesn't return pings - is this expected?
[05:30] <ReleaseX> my laptop has a combination trackstick/touchpad, it seems to stutter occasionally, anyone have any experience with that?
[05:30] <Madpilot> cafuego: the ISP account isn't in my name or connected to my email address... ;)
[05:30] <windex> ReleaseX, you might need to tweak your mouse sensitivity settings. outside of that, not sure.
[05:31] <windex> ReleaseX, it's under System -> Prefrences -> Mouse -> Motion (Tab)
[05:31] <cefx> Wow, ubuntu install is pretty cool.
[05:31] <Madpilot> cafuego: paranoid!
[05:31] <cefx> i'm installing amd64:)
[05:31] <poningru> ?
[05:31] <poningru> nm
[05:31] <cafuego> Madpilot: Ha!
[05:31] <ReleaseX> windex, yeah i already tried that, i think there must be something else, thanks though
[05:32] <windex> cafuego, i connect to the internet by satellite. thunderstorms == ddos attacks.
[05:32] <cafuego> windex: ouch
[05:32] <cafuego> windex: can you firewall the weather?
[05:32] <raDeon> i installed w32codecs
[05:32] <cefx> I can't believe how much Ubuntu holds your hand.  Wow.
[05:32] <raDeon> but Music Player says no plugin is installed to handle MP3 file
[05:32] <raDeon> how do i fix
[05:32] <arbir> is back finally
[05:32] <PurpleMotion> death sucks
[05:32] <knowledge_> anyone know?
[05:33] <cefx> Yea, death does suck.
[05:33] <cefx> I just got back from The Island.
[05:33] <skalpel> what does it mean if you get the error 'nautilus could not show burn:// in nautilus when burning a cd?
[05:33] <windex> cafuego, sure, just gotta built a realllllly big pringles can for my antenna. about 10 miles high. or so. ought to do it.
[05:33] <arbir> after all death is only the beginning
[05:33] <cafuego> windex: neat, a smokestack cantenna
[05:33] <arbir> i just installed Kubuntu... . how can i switch my desktop to kde from gnome ?
[05:33] <PurpleMotion> arbir:  doesnt make it any easier to deal with, now does it
[05:34] <cefx> arbir -- there's a file somewhere in your home dir that deals with that
[05:34] <cefx> I'm not familiar with it tho
[05:34] <arbir> PurpleMotion, just kiddin :-) i dont even know in what context you were talking about death ?
[05:34] <windex> cafuego, i'm going to have a heart attack from choloestrol and the people who own stock in duct tape are going to make a fortune, BUT I'LL DO IT.
[05:34] <PurpleMotion> arbir:  a good friend of mine hung himself last night
[05:34] <arbir> wukk tge good old switchdesk work ?
[05:34] <arbir> ohoh sorry PurpleMotion
[05:34] <PurpleMotion> yeah, me too
[05:34] <arbir> i take back my words
[05:34] <cafuego> windex: if you have cholesterol issues you'll get gall stones first (they also hurt FAR more)
[05:34] <PurpleMotion> it's okay, you didnt say anything wrong
[05:35] <windex> cafuego, i don't have a gall bladder. got ganked when i was 18 due to genetics (not high cholesterol). :)
[05:35] <cefx> Wow, how much does the base Ubuntu install include?
[05:35] <cafuego> windex: <heh>
[05:35] <PurpleMotion> about two gigs
[05:35] <mebaran> I got X working in breezy
[05:35] <cefx> fuck
[05:35] <mebaran> but I had to change a symlink
[05:35] <mebaran> no errors so far and mkfontdir looks like it works
[05:35] <cefx> My body no longer handles digestion very well.
[05:35] <cefx> :)
[05:36] <PurpleMotion> my roommate also has no gall bladder
[05:36] <arbir> how can i switch my desktop to kde from gnome ? i dnot even see any x related file in my home dir
[05:36] <cafuego> cefx: if that too much, you can do a 'server' install and add stuff like X later.
[05:36] <cefx> :/
[05:36] <Nomad_1> Does anyone know how to boot from a CD even though GRUB is a boot nazi? (I've looked in GRUB's help file and didn't see anything that looked like it could help me.
[05:36] <mebaran> PurpleMotion, what does a gallbladder do anyway
[05:36] <cefx> cafuego: oh no, not too much :) does it have good ntfs-read support?
[05:36] <cafuego> arbir: install KDE, chen choose KDE in the login screen menu.
[05:36] <PurpleMotion> arbir: open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:36] <mebaran> Nomad_1, you cant use grub to do that
[05:36] <cefx> I've got a 250gb external NTFS drive that i need to read stuff from
[05:36] <cafuego> cefx: Yeah, just normal kenrel ntfs access
[05:36] <mebaran> because you need to have cdrom drivers or bios specific extensions
[05:36] <PurpleMotion> mebaran:  ya got me, but i know my roommate is pretty fucked up due to his lack of one
[05:36] <Nomad_1> mebaran: I don't want to. GRUB just kind of takes over
[05:36] <arbir> PurpleMotion, i have installed Kubuntu desktop
[05:36] <arbir> now i want to switch to kde
[05:36] <mebaran> neither which is in grub
[05:37] <Amaranth> mebaran: you had to change a symlink?
[05:37] <mebaran> Nomad_1, you got to do it in the bios
[05:37] <mebaran> Amaranth, yeah
[05:37] <arbir> where is the login screen menu cafuego
[05:37] <jasoncohen> cefx, you just have to add an entry in fstab
[05:37] <PurpleMotion> arbir:  open aterminal, and type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[05:37] <cefx> Cool.
[05:37] <PurpleMotion> arbir:  when prompted, select kdm
[05:37] <Amaranth> mebaran: what?
[05:37] <cefx> jasoncohen: Yeah :) thanks.
[05:37] <arbir> ah let me see
[05:37] <windex> mebaran, it holds bile produced in the liver until you eat, at which point the bile helps break down the fat. if you don't have a gall bladder, your liver is constantly producing bile. and it has interesting digestional system results.
[05:37] <mebaran> all I had to do is relink X with /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg
[05:37] <PurpleMotion> arbir:  when you get to the login screen, click session and choose kde
[05:37] <cefx> In slackware I added /dev/sda1 with oumask=022
[05:37] <jasoncohen> cef, first "sudo fdisk -l" to find the partition
[05:37] <Nomad_1> mebaran: I've set the bios to look at the cd-rom drive first but it still skipped the disk and went to GRUB.
[05:37] <mebaran> windex, and to think I took college biology
[05:37] <mebaran> Nomad_1, that means it doesnt think it can boot from the disk
[05:38] <cefx> Yea.
[05:38] <mebaran> or it thinks the boot disk is bad
[05:38] <cefx> Or look in dmesg, jason ;)
[05:38] <jasoncohen> cef, "/dev/sda1  /mnt/windows   ntfs  defaults 0 0"
[05:38] <mebaran> Amaranth, did I have to do that?
[05:38] <mebaran> change that symlink
[05:38] <mebaran> it seemed sort of hacky
[05:38] <cefx> no
[05:38] <Amaranth> mebaran: what did you change?
[05:38] <Nomad_1> I don't see why it wouldn't. The disk is Debian's net install disk.
[05:38] <cefx> I'm definately -not- doing defaults ;D
[05:38] <arbir> dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[05:38] <arbir>  * Reloading K Display Manager configuration...                          [fail]
[05:38] <arbir> invoke-rc.d: initscript kdm, action "reload" failed.
[05:38] <whitefang> how do i mount my windows partition?
[05:38] <jasoncohen> cefx, ok, then use whatever options you want
[05:38] <cefx> I use oumask=022 or ro
[05:38] <PurpleMotion> hahah
[05:38] <mebaran> I linked /etc/X11/X with /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg
[05:38] <Zartan> I tried follow instructions of http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/#Installation . Where can I found V4L module for Ubuntu?
[05:38] <PurpleMotion> holdon, ill get the file you need to manually edit
[05:39] <jasoncohen> cefx, i use "users,umask=022"
[05:39] <arbir> oh :-(
[05:39] <whitefang> errr, my windows partition is ntfs, how can i mount it?
[05:39] <cefx> Hm.
[05:39] <cefx> Interesting.
[05:39] <arbir> arbir will be back after a pee... too much Kilkenney inside him
[05:39] <PurpleMotion> arbir:  sudp pico /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[05:39] <jasmuz> whitefang: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996
[05:39] <PurpleMotion> arbir:  change whats in it to kde
[05:39] <cefx> 2.6.10 kernel?
[05:39] <jasmuz> upss
[05:39] <cefx> Interesting.
[05:39] <PurpleMotion> arbir: then reboot, and at the kdm login screen, click session, and choose kde
[05:39] <jasoncohen> cefx, yes- i'm in hoary
[05:39] <jasmuz> whitefang: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:39] <cefx> Is the 2.6.10 kernel in the amd64 5.04 disc good or will i have to upgrade it?
[05:39] <levander> Anybody can tell me how to use mkisofs graft points?
[05:39] <jasoncohen> cefx, so, what's the problem?
[05:39] <PurpleMotion> err sudo
[05:39] <cefx> Nothing.
[05:40] <jasoncohen> cefx, what do you mean by "good"? I have had no problems with it
[05:40] <cefx> jasoncohen: I just hope I don't have the same problems in ubuntu X as i did in slackware X.
[05:40] <jasoncohen> cefx, you shouldn't- xorg is pretty good at auto-detecting hardware and ubuntu is known for its excellent hardware support
[05:40] <JoshRA> hey who ever helped me
[05:40] <JoshRA> it worsk
[05:40] <JoshRA> the floppy thing i am installing x and firefox ow
[05:40] <JoshRA> :D:D
[05:41] <PurpleMotion> the floppy thing?
[05:41] <arbir> is back
[05:41] <PurpleMotion> you been sneakin peeks, eh?
[05:41] <Zartan> how can I install v4l for ubuntu?
[05:41] <arbir> PurpleMotion, let6 me check that file
[05:41] <cefx> jasoncohen: In slackware I had problems in the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel
[05:41] <cefx> while in X my keyboard enter key stopped responding
[05:41] <pudland> hello all
[05:41] <jasmuz> Zartan: downloading via Synaptic the packages for v4l
[05:42] <cefx> It acted as if caps lock was always on when it wasn't
[05:42] <windex> Zartan, i think v4l is in synaptic. if its not in the base packages, try enabling universe and check again?
[05:42] <JoshRA> Davey: thanks you to aru
[05:42] <cefx> and my left mouse button behaved with each click as a right click
[05:42] <arbir> it shows /usr/bin/kdm @ PurpleMotion
[05:42] <Amaranth> cefx: that sounds like an X issues, not a kernel issue
[05:42] <cafuego> Wow. Breezy firefox is spectacularly busted :-)
[05:42] <Amaranth> cafuego: not really
[05:42] <arbir> PurpleMotion, let me reboot now
[05:42] <PurpleMotion> arbir, okay. logout of gnome, and at the login screen, go to session and choose kde
[05:42] <Ohpoo> cafuego, what you mean by busted?
[05:42] <PurpleMotion> no
[05:42] <PurpleMotion> dont reboot
[05:42] <cafuego> Amaranth: Reliably does poo when i try to log in to a site.
[05:42] <jasoncohen> cefx, weird...
[05:42] <PurpleMotion> no need
[05:42] <mebaran> Amaranth, you didnt need to change the sym
[05:42] <mebaran> ?
[05:42] <jasoncohen> cefx, slackware uses 2.6.12?
[05:42] <Zartan> thank you :) jazmuz and windex. Do I modprobe v4l then?
[05:42] <cefx> I upgraded to it, jason
[05:43] <arbir> ok arbir is gone
[05:43] <cefx> Amaranth: So far the AMD64 install is going good :)
[05:43] <cefx> All those pretty packages installing
[05:43] <windex> cafuego, for some reason firefox on hoary dosen't like to print to my printer. it either causes my printer to hardlock while processing the postscript, or does not print within page boundaries. every other piece of software works great. :D
[05:43] <PurpleMotion> Yet another satisfied customer. Thank you, drive through
[05:43] <cefx> Wow, I'm impressed.
[05:43] <cefx> It even sets up the packages
[05:43] <Amaranth> mebaran: nope
[05:44] <cefx> Is there a plugin/codec for viewing .wmv files?
[05:44] <cefx> and christ on a stick, Xine is terrible!
[05:44] <cafuego> windex: firefox has issues with non-latest postscript interpreters. Whoever at FF amde that decision is a damn retard.
[05:44] <jasmuz> Zartan: i think its not necesary...
[05:44] <Amaranth> mebaran: but you probably had an older version of X from breezy installed, daniels said right now it only cleanly upgrades from hoary
[05:44] <auk> !mono
[05:44] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mono is " http://www.apacheworld.org/modmono/ Repo CLOSED  Please see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto or BreakMyUbuntu" hm
[05:44] <jasoncohen> cefx, yes
[05:44] <Amaranth> !restricted
[05:44] <ubotu> restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:44] <Gorth> guys how did ubuntu install and everything
[05:44] <jasoncohen> cefx, you'll want w32codecs from hoary-extras
[05:44] <Amaranth> cefx: read that
[05:44] <windex> cafuego, yep. i'm going to try to tftp upgrade the printer. it's network enabled and doing software upgrades is nontrivial.
[05:44] <Gorth> but not put GCC on there
[05:45] <jasoncohen> !tell cefx about multimedia
[05:45] <cafuego> windex: My print server has no update available.
[05:45] <Amaranth> Gorth: gcc is a security risk
[05:45] <levander> Nobody knows how to use mkisofs graft points?
[05:45] <cafuego> Gorth: gcc is not installed by default; most suers have no need for it.
[05:45] <Zartan> my fast mouse finger :P
[05:45] <windex> Gorth, neither ubuntu nor debian default to having gcc, use aptitude to install the packages 'gcc g++ bison manpages-dev glibc-dev autoconf automake', and you should get enough of a development enviroment to be useful.
[05:46] <cafuego> windex: 'build-essential'
[05:46] <windex> that too.
[05:46] <Gorth> :O
[05:46] <windex> but i didn't know that existed.
[05:46] <windex> so go figure.
[05:46] <jasoncohen> Gorth, just "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[05:46] <cafuego> s/glibc-dev/libc6-dev/
[05:46] <Amaranth> !info build-essential
[05:46] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 10.1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[05:46] <Amaranth> that's a lame description
[05:46] <windex> does build essential include manpages-dev and glibc-dev?
[05:46] <windex> err, glibc-doc?
[05:46] <jasoncohen> cefx, use totem with totem-xine and w32codecs and you'll have support for nearly every codec.
[05:47] <windex> some of us want manpages for pthread_create, you know.
[05:47] <whitefang> to run a program off a win2k partition that requires you to be able to write to a file in its directory, what do i need to do?
[05:47] <cafuego> !depends build-essential
[05:47] <ubotu> build-essential: depends on libc6-dev | libc-dev, gcc (>= 3:3.3), g++ (>= 3:3.3), make, dpkg-dev (>= <IP_ADDRESS>)
[05:47] <Zartan> jasmuz: Could you repeat your answer. I click mouse and close tab without meanless
[05:47] <jasoncohen> cefx, xine is nice for DVDs but for most other videos you'll probably prefer to use totem
[05:47] <Gorth> thanks guys
[05:47] <cefx> okay, awesome, thanks jason :)
[05:47] <whitefang> lag?
[05:47] <PurpleMotion> jasoncohen:  i still cant get mp4 video to work... both these movies play PERFECTLY in windows, and completely HARF in linux.. everything from a segfault to completely locking up the a/v subsystems
[05:47] <windex> cafuego, if that's all it throws in there i consider my answer to be superior :)
[05:48] <cefx> Too bad they don't have a #biohelp chan.   I clicked mouse and close tab. I didn't want do it :)
[05:50] <mebaran> jasoncohen, lavc decodes them faster
[05:50] <jasoncohen> which would include divx, xvid and several other formats
[05:50] <mebaran> look for ffmpeg
[05:50] <mebaran> it does the job very well for all those variant
[05:50] <mebaran> s
[05:50] <raDeon> i installed w32codecs
[05:50] <raDeon> but Music Player says no plugin is installed to handle MP3 file
[05:50] <raDeon> what do i do
[05:50] <raDeon> so i can play mp3
[05:50] <jasoncohen> raDeon, "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad"
[05:50] <raDeon> speak english well i do not
[05:50] <PurpleMotion> jasoncohen:  i mean it has the extension .mp4 and it does not play in anything.
[05:50] <raDeon> thank you jasoncohen
[05:51] <PurpleMotion> except windows
[05:51] <PurpleMotion> in fact
[05:51] <sfvt> PurpleMotion: I don't believe totem-gstreamer (the default) supports that codec. But I have placed files with the .mp4 extension via totem-xine
[05:51] <PurpleMotion> in windows, it's a two hour movie that's 265mb and it looks and sounds PERFECT
[05:51] <jasoncohen> PurpleMotion, mplayer supports mp4...from my quick search on google
[05:52] <jasoncohen> PurpleMotion, are you using totem-xine with w32codecs installed?
[05:52] <PurpleMotion> jasoncohen:  you'd think, roght?
[05:52] <cafuego> tea
[05:52] <jasoncohen> PurpleMotion, "dpkg -l | grep totem"
[05:52] <jasoncohen> PurpleMotion, "dpkg -l w32codecs"
[05:52] <sfvt> s/placed/played/
[05:52] <mebaran> can X be made to use the framebuffer device
[05:52] <philip> let's say i wanted to add a repository that had packages i'm used to but apparently are obscure, things like jed and feta. what would be a good one?
[05:52] <PurpleMotion> ah
[05:52] <PurpleMotion> it's gstream
[05:52] <deprave> JAS
[05:52] <PurpleMotion> but
[05:52] <jasoncohen> PurpleMotion, you need totem-xine
[05:52] <mebaran> what would the driver be
[05:52] <deprave> jasoncohen what does that do?
[05:52] <PurpleMotion> i have xine, and it doesnt play it either
[05:52] <mebaran> that would allow such nonsense
[05:52] <PurpleMotion> yeah lemme install it
[05:52] <jasoncohen> PurpleMotion, "sudo apt-get install totem-xine w32codecs"
[05:53] <jasoncohen> PurpleMotion, and you need to add the hoary-extras repository if you haven't already
[05:53] <whitefang> how do i make my win2k partition writable by the adm user group?
[05:53] <PurpleMotion> yeah i got w32codecs, didnt you see me say i recompiled mplayer for all the codecs :D
[05:53] <jasoncohen> !tell PurpleMotion about multimedia
[05:53] <PurpleMotion> i got it dude
[05:53] <PurpleMotion> thanks
[05:53] <jasoncohen> that's mplayer
[05:53] <Madpilot> !tell philip about repos
[05:53] <jasoncohen> you're talking about the xine engine
[05:53] <jasoncohen> it should work in mplayer
[05:53] <lJlolel> !tell myself about multimedia
[05:53] <PurpleMotion> doesnt change the fact that it doesnt
[05:54] <deprave> will sudo apt-get install totem-xine w32codecs help me play certain videos?
[05:54] <jasoncohen> deprave, yes
[05:54] <Madpilot> !tell Madpilot about opera
[05:54] <mebaran> I would like to replace my framebuffer device with nvidiafb
[05:54] <deprave> like my precious porn?
[05:54] <deprave> thanks
[05:54] <mebaran> instead it loads vga16fb
[05:54] <mebaran> what might I do
[05:54] <lJlolel> every time i do sudo, it says my login attempts don't work
[05:54] <lJlolel> i have to su
[05:54] <jasoncohen> deprave, totem-xine and w32codecs will play divx/xvid, windows media video, realplayer etc
[05:54] <deprave> E: Couldn't find package w32codecs
[05:54] <deprave> root@splinter:/etc/tripwire #
[05:54] <nalioth> deprave: w32codecs won't play the newest wmv9 and 10 vids, iirc
[05:54] <PurpleMotion> yeah mplayer plays EVERYTHING - except - these friggen .mp4 files
[05:54] <sfvt> deprave: yes, totem-xine will place you're precious porn ;)
[05:55] <jasoncohen> Jolel: are you using ubuntu? ubuntu has no root account by default
[05:55] <cefx> yah I have precious porn too!
[05:55] <deprave> it didn't find it unfortunately
[05:55] <jasoncohen> PurpleMotion, do you have an example .mp4 file i can download?
[05:55] <nalioth> PurpleMotion: compile it with libfaad
[05:55] <Madpilot> lJlolel: have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:55] <jasoncohen> deprave, you need to add the hoary-extras repository
[05:55] <cefx> Amaranth: Kudos/props to you and the devs.  This is turning out to be a good distro.
[05:55] <lJlolel> lol yes i'm using ubuntu
[05:55] <jasoncohen> !tell deprave about multimedia
[05:55] <cefx> Also
[05:55] <cefx> Has anyone used Cedega on X?
[05:55] <PurpleMotion> nalioth:  would that be included in apt-get build-dep mplayer-686 ??
[05:55] <jasoncohen> !tell deprave about multimedia repositories
[05:55] <Amaranth> cefx: I just work on smeg. :)
[05:55] <sfvt> jasoncohen: or is it whorey-extras ?
[05:55] <cefx> hehe
[05:55] <jasoncohen> sfvt, lol
[05:56] <cefx> Amaranth: As an ex windows user...it's nice seeing it hold my hand, but also nice knowing I can reformat and do it all by hand with the server install.
[05:56] <nalioth> PurpleMotion: it's been my (personal and in helping others) experience that compiling mplayer is the best route to the most compatibility
[05:56] <deprave> !tell me about playing porn more efficiently
[05:56] <whitefang> hmmm, this was either answered and i missed it, or not answered, so I'll try again. sorry to be a PITA.
[05:56] <jasmuz> deprave: hahaha
[05:56] <whitefang> how do i make my win2k partition writable by the adm user group?
[05:56] <PurpleMotion> nalioth:  i compiled it... it still doesnt run tho, heh
[05:56] <philip> Madpilot, perfect, thanks
[05:56] <jasoncohen> deprave, porn usually uses divx/xvid avi's or plain mpegs...you should have excellent support with totem or xine
[05:57] <Madpilot> philip: np
[05:57] <jasoncohen> deprave, you might find xine better for your porn needs as it starts up very quickly and you can have multiple windows open without a performance hit :)
[05:57] <nalioth> PurpleMotion: and i recommend you d/l all the codecs/libs via apt, compile the ones not available in apt, and d/l hte source from mplayerhq and compile it with flags of your choice
[05:57] <PurpleMotion> jasoncohen:  well, totem-xine got as close as ive been.. it played the audio for about 30 seconds, displayed no video, and crashed almost immediately after opening
[05:57] <windex> cafuego, it will make you happy to know i am now going to bed as i have stumbled into a bug in my code i do not have the mental capacity, at 11pm, to fix.
[05:57] <raDeon> do i have to install nvidia drivers
[05:57] <raDeon> or is that all set up
[05:57] <jasoncohen> deprave, also has easy to use keyboard shortcuts when you can't get to the mouse
[05:57] <PurpleMotion> nalioth:  yeah did all that
[05:57] <deprave> awesome thanks
[05:58] <deprave> you guys are like porn commandos
[05:58] <nalioth> PurpleMotion: then i dont know anything else
[05:58] <deprave> jasoncohen: hahahaha
[05:58] <windex> someone needs to write a better debugger than gdb for dealing with code that uses pthreads.
[05:58] <jasoncohen> PurpleMotion, ok- do you have w32codecs installed? you compiled mplayer but that doesn't mean that the codecs are there for xine. i recommend you install the w32codecs package but the mp4 format is obviously a difficult one
[05:58] <PurpleMotion> yes, i do.
[05:58] <nalioth> PurpleMotion: you need libfaad for mp4s/aac
[05:58] <Detox> any ideas on a distro for grade school kids?
[05:59] <skalpel> hi
[05:59] <whitefang> Detox, this one.
[05:59] <PurpleMotion> ii  libfaad2-0     2.0.0-0.3      freeware Advanced Audio Decoder - runtime fi
[05:59] <PurpleMotion> ii  libfaad2-dev   2.0.0-0.3      freeware Advanced Audio Decoder - developmen
[05:59] <PurpleMotion> installed.
[05:59] <sfvt> Detox: edubuntu?
[05:59] <Detox> where do i faind it?
[05:59] <jasoncohen> PurpleMotion, gstreamer0.8-faad - GStreamer faad plugins
[05:59] <poningru> hmm installed lm-sensors from repo
[05:59] <whitefang> Detox, i just installed it for the first time. it was the easiest install of any OS i've ever done.
[05:59] <nalioth> PurpleMotion: you also need gstreamer-libfaad (or whatever it's called)
[05:59] <poningru> any one know how to configure it?
[05:59] <jasoncohen> PurpleMotion, is that installed?
[05:59] <sproingie> Detox: edubuntu.org
[05:59] <PurpleMotion> nope
[06:00] <windex> omg. someone _does_ write something better than gdb for debugging threads. smartgdb
[06:00] <rockholico> helo there!
[06:00] <jasoncohen> PurpleMotion, sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer gstreamer0.8-faad
[06:00] <sproingie> Detox: it's not out yet
[06:00] <raDeon> why, on linux, is there always a significant "buzzing" distortion in my music at high volumes
[06:00] <PurpleMotion> man i just installed totem-xine :D
[06:00] <PurpleMotion> you guys got me in circles
[06:00] <nox> PurpleMotion, what seems to be the problem?
[06:01] <jasoncohen> PurpleMotion, sorry man- i hadn't used mp4...i'm searching google as we speak to try to help you
[06:01] <PurpleMotion> nox, video codecs are a pain in the ass, thats all
[06:01] <PurpleMotion> jasoncohen:  i appreciate it :)
[06:01] <jasoncohen> PurpleMotion, also try "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[06:01] <nox> PurpleMotion, what is the problem with the codecs?
[06:01] <nalioth> PurpleMotion: changing from totem-xine to totem-gstreamer aint but a thang
[06:01] <nox> jasoncohen, it will not work.
[06:01] <PurpleMotion> i know i know
[06:01] <nalioth> PurpleMotion: install ALL gstreamer plugins
[06:02] <jasoncohen> PurpleMotion, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins will give you most
[06:02] <jasoncohen> you can go into synaptic and just install all of 'em
[06:02] <whitefang> noone knows how i can make my ntfs partition writable by the adm user group?
[06:02] <deprave> i am running out of space on my mighty 6gig quantum fireball, i have another 10 gig somewhere i want to throw on here that curently has windows 2000 on it ntfs etc, i don't mind wiping it, aside from throwing it on here and jumper settings and stuff what should i expect the boot loader to do, will it see it, and how do i formate the drive and what do i mount it as or is there software to help with it
[06:02] <nox> PurpleMotion, what are you trying to run? mp4 files?
[06:02] <nalioth> whitefang: writing to NTFS can lead to a loss of the NTFS partition
[06:02] <sfvt> whitefang: does ubuntu even support writing to NTFS?
[06:02] <PurpleMotion> wow, gstreamer is pretty fuckin powerful, eh
[06:02] <PurpleMotion> nox: yeah..
[06:03] <nox> PurpleMotion, you tried with mplayer?
[06:03] <whitefang> nalioth, ok, so i should copy my game directory to my linux parition, and run it from there?
[06:03] <jasmuz> sfvt: not really
[06:03] <PurpleMotion> oh god here we go
[06:03] <nalioth> whitefang: or use Partition Magic to convert your NTFS to fat32
[06:03] <jasoncohen> deprave, you can use a gui partition tool like gparted to do all that
[06:03] <Detox> thanks for the info,,, I will watch  for a DL
[06:03] <jlynchs> holas
[06:03] <whitefang> nalioth, i don't want to buy partition magic.
[06:03] <nox> PurpleMotion, you don`t want me to help you? i am going to fix your problem
[06:03] <whitefang> wine can't run a windows program off of ext3?
[06:03] <PurpleMotion> yeah, i even recompiled mplayer with every codec youc an think of installed :) I also optimized it for my cpu, and told it to use a more current gtk toolkit but we wont go there
[06:04] <jasoncohen> deprave, sudo apt-get install gparted. then sudo gparted, format the disk, make an ext3 partition and add it to /etc/fstab
[06:04] <Zartan> I have Logitech QuickCam Express. I have compiled module and done sudo insmod ./quickcam.ko. now i have modules usbcore               107384  4 quickcam,usbhid,uhci_hcd videodev                9728  1 quickcam quickcam               69156  0. how i get camera running now?
[06:04] <PurpleMotion> nah, im just sayin been there, done that, heh
[06:04] <deprave> jasoncohen : fan freakin tastic my good man (or good women with a terrible name for a female)
[06:04] <nox> PurpleMotion, ok, please wait 1 minuet
[06:04] <PurpleMotion> heh, sure
[06:04] <jasoncohen> deprave, man :)
[06:04] <jasoncohen> nox, so, what do you need to get mp4 support. i'll add it to the multimedia wiki
[06:05] <sfvt> whitefang, I think wine can run programs on an ext3 fs
[06:05] <PurpleMotion> Totem could not play 'file:///home/media/movies/Batman.Begins.TS.SVCD.mp4'.
[06:05] <nalioth> jasoncohen: libfaad, gstreamer-<faad>
[06:05] <Zartan> so must I restart computer to get camera running
[06:05] <lJlolel> !tell myself about sudo
[06:05] <PurpleMotion> says could not open file for writing , wtf ever that means
[06:05] <jtgameover> i'm currently using openbox, and i'd like a way to live without a task panel, just a "system tray"
[06:05] <whitefang> sfvt, ok, thanks.
[06:05] <sk545> is there a special command to install from the -staging repo?
[06:05] <jtgameover> does anyone know of any program that can do this?
[06:05] <nox> PurpleMotion, you tried "mpeg4ip"?
[06:05] <jasoncohen> Zartan, start gnomemeeting from Internet > gnomemeeting and test it out
[06:05] <ReleaseX> is there a program that allows you to easily change your workgroup under windows without editing a text file
[06:06] <PurpleMotion> whats that?
[06:06] <jasoncohen> Zartan, my logitech quickcam 3000 pro was automatically supported in ubuntu
[06:06] <nox> http://mpeg4ip.sourceforge.net/
[06:06] <Zartan> jasoncohen: I try :)
[06:06] <lJlolel> you dont like the network setup wizard?
[06:06] <sfvt> whitefang: also, regarding your other question... look at the ntfs mount options in the mount(8) man page... esp the gid= and umask= options
[06:06] <jasoncohen> ReleaseX, yeah, control center > system ...somewhere in there is workgroup which you can change
[06:06] <PurpleMotion> could not open resource for writing
[06:06] <nox> PurpleMotion, enter: http://mpeg4ip.sourceforge.net/
[06:06] <whitefang> ok, but i don't want to ruin the partition, so it's probably better not to do that right?
[06:07] <jasoncohen> nox, what other codecs does mpeg4ip support?
[06:07] <sfvt> whitefang, yeah.
[06:08] <PurpleMotion> nox:  i dont suppose i'd be so fortunate as to there being a package for this?
[06:08] <PurpleMotion> okay, now EVERYTHING i try to open in totem results in "resource not available for writing"
[06:08] <nox> jasoncohen, i don`t know, read in the link i gave here
[06:09] <nox> PurpleMotion, totem is weak. don`t use it. i don`t know if there is a package for mpeg4ip, ill be searching for it in 2 minutes
[06:09] <jasoncohen> PurpleMotion, looks like you'll need to compile from source. You'll need build dependencies- "sudo apt-get install libtool autoconf automake1.4"
[06:10] <skalpel> can someone tell me what this means?
[06:10] <skalpel> [Fatal Error]  :1:136: The element type "videos" must be terminated by the matching end-tag "</videos>".
[06:10] <skalpel> cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc gracetime=2 speed=4 -v -eject -multi /tmp/GnomeBaker/jon/gnomebaker_create_data_cd.iso (null)
[06:10] <skalpel> ** Message: MessageDialog message [Please insert the CD into the CD writer]
[06:10] <jasoncohen> nox, does ffmpeg support mp4?
[06:10] <PurpleMotion> jasoncohen:  wtf? it worked before you had me install all this gstreamer stuff (at least for non-mp4 files)... now you're telling me i need to recompile??
[06:10] <jasoncohen> PurpleMotion, no, no
[06:10] <skalpel> i am trying to burn mp3 files in gnomebaker and that is the error i get
[06:10] <nox> jasoncohen, i don`t think so - i have this package installed and i can`t play those open source episodes from legaltorrents.com
[06:10] <Zartan> jasoncohen: device not found :( Something I must do- Maybe insert some script in rc.local?
[06:11] <jasoncohen> PurpleMotion, only if you want mpeg4ip working. i don't know why totem has gone haywire. i've had weirdness with totem but it fixes itself either by restarting gnome or by restarting the system
[06:11] <levander> I've got some file, /etc/printcap, on my system.  It's a link to /var/run/cups/printcap.  However, that second file doesn't exist on my system.  What's that about?  Something to worry about?
[06:11] <jasoncohen> Zartan, is it connected?
[06:11] <PurpleMotion> GRR
[06:11] <jasoncohen> Zartan, usb camera right?
[06:11] <Amaranth> jasoncohen: nothing supports mp4
[06:11] <PurpleMotion> and i dont run gnome
[06:11] <skalpel> why wont nautilus show bunr://
[06:11] <deprave> (totem:13250): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[06:11] <deprave> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[06:11] <skalpel> ?
[06:11] <levander> I just checked, I don't have cups installed.
[06:11] <jasoncohen> PurpleMotion, then KDE
[06:11] <Amaranth> jasoncohen: mp4 is encrypted with Apple's FairPlay DRM
[06:11] <deprave> =/
[06:11] <jasoncohen> PurpleMotion, look- i'm trying to help, i'm sorry
[06:11] <deprave> it doesn't like me
[06:11] <PurpleMotion> i know
[06:11] <PurpleMotion> its just frustrating
[06:12] <deprave> kick it
[06:12] <jasoncohen> PurpleMotion, if you're having problems with totem, first try restarting KDE
[06:12] <deprave> kicking computers makes them work
[06:12] <jasoncohen> PurpleMotion, if that doesn't work, restart your box. It's a bad solution, but it works, heh
[06:12] <Zartan> jasoncohen: yes. it's connected in usb-port.
[06:12] <PurpleMotion> yeah lemme try that
[06:12] <jasoncohen> Amaranth, you mean- nothing that's packaged by ubuntu or nothing available anywhere
[06:12] <jasoncohen> that you know of
[06:12] <Amaranth> jasoncohen: you'll need to strip the DRM from the files, which is illegal
[06:12] <Amaranth> so i won't discuss it here
[06:12] <deprave> E: Couldn't find package w32codecs
[06:13] <deprave> =/
[06:13] <jasoncohen> heh, so it's not so impossible- just illegal :)
[06:13] <jasoncohen> deprave, you need hoary-extras
[06:13] <jasoncohen> !tell deprave about multimedia repositories
[06:13] <nox> deprave, it called win32codecs, not w32
[06:13] <deprave> what did you call me?
[06:13] <whitefang> is there any software to adjust my screens color settings?
[06:13] <jasoncohen> nox, no- it's called w32codecs
[06:13] <whitefang> the hardware controls arn't good enough.
[06:13] <nox> jasoncohen, sorry, you right.
[06:13] <nox> http://mpeg4ip.sourceforge.net/
[06:13] <deprave> extras?
[06:13] <nox> oops
[06:14] <nox> ofer@tuxido:~$ apt-cache search w32codecs
[06:14] <nox> w32codecs - win32 binary codecs
[06:14] <jasoncohen> deprave, you need to either replace or edit your sources.list and then update the apt cahce. follow the instructions i gave you
[06:14] <lJlolel> haha, my Joe account keeps getting emails about Joe trying to break into sudo
[06:14] <DekaPink> Yargh...
[06:14] <jtgameover> does anyone know of a program that would make everything go to a "system tray" of sorts, instead of a panel?
[06:14] <jasoncohen> Jolel: you didn't allow your user administrative access
[06:14] <jasoncohen> Jolel: su -c users-admin
[06:14] <nox> deprave, here you can find a very good sources.list file -> http://whatsup.org.il/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=19050&highlight=mp4
[06:15] <nox> deprave, im talking about the longest one, painted in green
[06:15] <jasoncohen> then choose your user and give it administrative privileges
[06:15] <lJlolel> i'm already there
[06:15] <jasoncohen> lJlolel, go to user privileges and enable "executing system administration tasks"
[06:15] <lJlolel> hm
[06:15] <lJlolel> theres no such option
[06:16] <Zartan> jasoncohen: So my maybe must buy some other camera :)
[06:16] <wardbones> Hi, I've got sound-juicer all set up but it won't show one of my encoders.  Anybody willing to help?
[06:16] <lJlolel> and no similar option
[06:16] <jasoncohen> nox, no! that's a very bad sources.list file
[06:16] <jasoncohen> deprave, don't use that link! marillat can seriously fuck up your system
[06:16] <jasoncohen> it's meant for debian- not ubuntu
[06:16] <Amaranth> nox: NONONONONONONONO
[06:17] <jasoncohen> nox, marillat is an unofficial source for debian and it's quite a good source if you are running debian but it will cause no end of troubles on ubuntu! use ubuntu backports & extras instead
[06:17] <jasoncohen> lJlolel, are you using hoary or warty?
[06:17] <cefx> brb
[06:17] <lJlolel> hoary
[06:17] <cefx> Hm.
[06:17] <f_newton> nox good advice
[06:17] <lJlolel> this is weird, no?
[06:17] <jasoncohen> lJlolel, well, hoary should have that option in users-admin
[06:18] <lJlolel> hm, well i guess i can live without sudo
[06:18] <cefx> Why do people complain about Gnome, Amaranth?  The natural build that comes with 5.04 looks pretty sweet to me.
[06:18] <jasoncohen> lJlolel, did you choose your user and select properties?
[06:18] <f_newton> most distros that have their own updating tools tend to use file extensions designed to make their updating process uniform...
[06:18] <lJlolel> choose user and select properties?
[06:18] <deprave> i just used the sources list on that ubuntu page you just gave me jasoncohen
[06:18] <Phuzion> Hey, are there PHP development tools in Ubuntu?
[06:18] <Amaranth> cefx: *shrug*
[06:18] <cafuego> Phuzion: vim
[06:18] <nalioth> cefx: cuz gnome use to be sour
[06:18] <Amaranth> cefx: I guess they don't like brown
[06:18] <jasoncohen> lJlolel, select the user you want, click the properties button, then the User Privileges tab and then enabled "executing system administrative tasks"
[06:18] <cefx> Heh!
[06:19] <cefx> It -does- use a lot of RAM, it looks like.
[06:19] <cefx> 200megs of ram?
[06:19] <lJlolel> lol i told you theres no such item
[06:19] <jasoncohen> deprave, ok- good
[06:19] <cefx> That's like Windows.
[06:19] <poningru> anyone know how to get xsensors working?
[06:19] <nox> Phuzion, i like "screem"
[06:19] <lJlolel> hm, can i just edit it directly? (visudo) in hoary?
[06:19] <jasoncohen> deprave, did you follow all instructions? - thorough "sudo apt-get update"
[06:19] <poningru> for some reason it opens but just has an empty window
[06:19] <poningru> do I have to configure my lm-sensor?
[06:19] <cyphase> shit
[06:19] <jasoncohen> lJlolel, su -c users-admin
[06:19] <poningru> any doc pointers would be great
[06:20] <Phuzion> nox, does that have the kind of stuff that dreamweaver has, like all of the different tags, and variables in drop down menus as you're coding?
[06:20] <cyphase> this is the second time i've had DNS problems
[06:20] <deprave> yes
[06:20] <jasoncohen> lJlolel, do you see a "preferences" button?
[06:20] <deprave> im doing the update now =>
[06:20] <deprave> =D even
[06:20] <lJlolel> jasoncohen, no it's called properties
[06:20] <jasoncohen> lJlolel, you can use visudo but this is easier and there is no reason it shouldn't work if you're on hoary
[06:20] <cefx> Would mount -oumask=022 -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /fatty work? for my NTFS drive.
[06:20] <lJlolel> and it doesn't have that option
[06:20] <nox> Phuzion, i have never used dreamweaver, So i don`t know what are you talking about. Try it.. it is realy comfortable.
[06:20] <cefx> Or is the command different for oumask in ubuntu?
[06:20] <Phuzion> Alright, thanks man
[06:21] <jasoncohen> lJlolel, Ok, well select the user you want and click Properties
[06:21] <Amaranth> cefx: ntfs is read-onlu
[06:21] <Amaranth> err, read-only
[06:21] <drcode> hi all
[06:21] <Phuzion> I'm installing the OS on my extra HD right now, so I'll check it out.
[06:21] <lJlolel> jasoncohen, yesi know, click that, user priveleges
[06:21] <cefx> Amaranth: I know.  That's why it's 022.
[06:21] <drcode> any idea of fax/voice software?
[06:21] <lJlolel> and of all the options, none say giving executive privileges
[06:21] <lJlolel> or anything similar
[06:21] <benplaut> Amaranth: how's Smeg going? :)
[06:21] <drcode> I Want to get fax and voice call
[06:21] <lJlolel> i'm just editiing the text
[06:21] <cefx> Is there a better mask for read only for all users?
[06:21] <drcode> in ubunutu
[06:21] <cefx> one sec please :)
[06:21] <jasoncohen> lJlolel, and you're telling me in user privileges you don't see "executing system administration tasks" as the 6th option?
[06:21] <nox> cefx - you mean 0222, not 022
[06:21] <PurpleMotion> giving mpeg4ip a shot
[06:21] <PurpleMotion> and i fixed totem
[06:21] <lJlolel> jasoncohen, that's right
[06:22] <jasoncohen> ok, one second
[06:22] <deprave> my cat's breath smells like catfood
[06:22] <benplaut> that's nice to know
[06:22] <PurpleMotion> i needed to run gstreamer-properties and set to alsa.. odd that totem doesnt give you a link to gstreamer's properties
[06:22] <jasoncohen> !tell jason about sudo
[06:22] <f_newton> my dog's breat smells like cat butt... gotta git rid of that litter box
[06:22] <nox> PurpleMotion, i told you, totem is WEAK
[06:22] <skalpel> what does it mean when gnomebaker quits halfway through a write and asks me to insert a disc?
[06:23] <poningru> skalpel: most likely that the cd is messed up
[06:23] <nox> skalpel, probably means you have to use k3b :]
[06:23] <jasoncohen> lJlolel, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RootSudo
[06:23] <poningru> try another cd
[06:23] <poningru> and what nox said
[06:23] <lJlolel> jasoncohen, enable access to external storage is my sixth option
[06:23] <jasoncohen> lJlolel, are you absolutely sure you're using hoary?
[06:23] <benplaut> f_newton: weird...
[06:23] <jasoncohen> lJlolel, gedit /etc/apt/sources.list. do the entries say warty or hoary?
[06:23] <f_newton> k3b is what almost everyone who knows and wants to use gui uses
[06:23] <f_newton> whats weird benplaut ?
[06:23] <lJlolel> ya, all hoary
[06:24] <jasoncohen> lJlolel, if you're in warty, "In Warty, adding a new user involves editing the /etc/sudoers file. To edit that file, you must use 'visudo' as it will error check the file before exiting. To add a user with the same administration rights as the first user, add the following lines to the file: '$newuser ALL=(ALL) ALL'. Replace the $newuser with the username."
[06:24] <whitefang> anyone know why a game would run so slow under wine its unplayable?
[06:24] <benplaut> or gnome-baker, if you are a die-hard KDE hater
[06:24] <benplaut> your dog is weird :P
[06:24] <lJlolel> jasoncohen, yea i did that
[06:24] <lJlolel> jasoncohen, it didnt work :(
[06:24] <Zartan> I try reboot
[06:24] <f_newton> not enough resources whitefang
[06:24] <nox> whitefang, thats because you have ati card :) am i right?
[06:24] <lJlolel> jasoncohen, when i was installing, my installation didn't find any security files
[06:24] <f_newton> benplaut, every dog ive ever had eats the cat crap
[06:24] <whitefang> no, geforce card
[06:24] <lJlolel> jasoncohen, could that be why?
[06:24] <f_newton> doesnt want the cat to think its home
[06:24] <whitefang> i remember a friend had the same problem, and it was some setting he had to change.
[06:24] <nox> whitefang, have you installed nvidia-glx ?
[06:25] <jasoncohen> lJlolel, well, something is definitely wrong then
[06:25] <whitefang> nox, no.
[06:25] <whitefang> unless its installed by default.
[06:25] <nox> whitefang, so do it now: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[06:25] <lJlolel> jasoncohen, yea, really weird
[06:25] <whitefang> nox, do i have to do anything else?
[06:26] <nox> whitefang, nope. just reset after you install it, and check the game if it still slow
[06:26] <nox> whitefang, thats probably the problem. drivers.
[06:26] <whitefang> nox, ok, now it won't run at all
[06:26] <whitefang> it just crashes when i try and start it.
[06:26] <nox> whitefang, you installed nvidia-glx and did a reboot?
[06:27] <whitefang> wtf
[06:27] <whitefang> this is linux, i have to reboot?
[06:27] <whitefang> jk
[06:27] <nox> whitefang, we are talking about drivers..
[06:27] <wardbones> is there a .conf file I can mv to reset sound-juicer to pre-run?
[06:27] <whitefang> ok, i'll reboot.
[06:27] <whitefang> brb
[06:27] <nox> whitefang, cya
[06:28] <cefx> ok...
[06:28] <deprave> updates are fun!
[06:28] <deprave> =D
[06:28] <cefx> How the fuck do I get root privs in ubuntu?
[06:28] <cefx> :|
[06:28] <cefx> there's no root account
[06:28] <nox> sudo <command>
[06:29] <benplaut> use your own password
[06:29] <nox> cefx, there is a root account, you just have to change its password. "sudo passwd root" will do what you want.
[06:29] <jasoncohen> cefx, sudo command or sudo -i for a root shell
[06:29] <PurpleMotion> this thing looks like it's gonna take a while to compile
[06:29] <cefx> neat!
[06:29] <cefx> thanks.
[06:29] <benplaut> and, if you want a root terminal, sudo su
[06:29] <whitefang> wow, nice and fast reboot.
[06:29] <benplaut> it didn't even say you left?!
[06:30] <PurpleMotion>  * esac<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[06:30] <PurpleMotion> wtf
[06:30] <cafuego> cefx: Step one is to realise you don't need a root account.
[06:30] <nox> whitefang, it works?
[06:30] <jtgameover> does anyone here use openbox?
[06:30] <cefx> cafuego, step two is to realize i need the permissions :)
[06:30] <esac> when I do a "top" in ubuntu , under CPU time, there is "wa" .. anybody know what this is, i cant find it documented
[06:30] <cafuego> cefx: So use 'sudo'
[06:30] <whitefang> now i get another error...
[06:30] <esac> PurpleMotion: ?
[06:30] <craks> any one use ppc ubuntu here?
[06:30] <craks> i have a problem about nptl in glibc
[06:30] <PurpleMotion> esac: how is your hostmask esac.user?
[06:30] <nox> whitefang, what is the error?
[06:30] <esac> PurpleMotion : because i have a user mask
[06:30] <whitefang> unable to initialize 3d output, please verify that you have installed driectx 8 and an updated video driver.
[06:30] <_frank> esac: I think its some waiting the cpu is doing for io to happen
[06:31] <PurpleMotion> esac: how does one acquire such a thing?
[06:31] <whitefang> before i installed those drivers you mentioned it was actually loading the game.
[06:31] <nalioth_zZz> craks: ask your question
[06:31] <whitefang> it just ran really slowly.
[06:31] <esac> _frank, thanks that would make sense then :)
[06:31] <nox> whitefang, wine is NOT for games. what game are you trying to load? you tried to run it with "dx9wine bla.exe" ?
[06:31] <whitefang> nox, my friend runs guild wars under ubuntu.
[06:31] <whitefang> and no, i didn't use dx9wine
[06:32] <nox> whitefang, thats because he is using cedega
[06:32] <esac> PurpleMotion : the best way is to donate, you can sometimes get one by just asking for one, but you probably have to catch them in the right mood :)
[06:32] <whitefang> ok.
[06:32] <nox> whitefang, so try dx9wine.
[06:32] <PurpleMotion> heh
[06:32] <whitefang> is dx9wine cedega?
[06:32] <nox> no
[06:32] <whitefang> or should i apt-get install cedega?
[06:32] <craks> i have run the command getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION
[06:32] <craks> but the result is linuxthreas-0.10
[06:32] <craks> not nptl 0.6*
[06:32] <craks> why this happens in ubuntu
[06:32] <twysted> hell im using ubuntu 5.04 and i cannot resolve domains, i have checked my nameservers and gateways, i am able to ping ips but not domains, and oddly  i can still get updates/upgrades through apt and aptitude, any ideas?
[06:32] <nox> whitefang, you can`t. cedega costs money.
[06:32] <twysted> ^hello
[06:32] <whitefang> oh.
[06:32] <craks> nptl is more faster and better than linuxthreads
[06:32] <f_newton> true craks
[06:33] <whitefang> nox, i don't have dx9wine
[06:33] <_frank> whitefang: you can get cedega from cvs for free and legally
[06:33] <benplaut> twysted: does ping www.google.com work?
[06:33] <cafuego> a cedega with stuff ripped out
[06:33] <_frank> cafuego: really? lika what?
[06:33] <cefx> dmesg error says BIOS error no PSB
[06:33] <twysted> benplaut: no, "unknown host"
[06:33] <esac> PurpleMotion:  http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#behaviorandcloaks
[06:33] <cefx> and uh
[06:33] <benplaut> hmm
[06:33] <nox> whitefang, try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996
[06:33] <whitefang> nox, how do i get dx9wine?
[06:33] <cefx> where the hell is my external hdd listed?
[06:33] <benplaut> !nameserver
[06:33] <ubotu> benplaut: I don't know
[06:33] <cyphase> twysted, i'm having the same problem
[06:33] <benplaut> arg
[06:34] <twysted> cyphase, im glad im not the only one
[06:34] <skalpel> nox: can i install k3b from package manager?
[06:34] <nox> whitefang, again, what game are you trying to run?
[06:34] <whitefang> nox, guild wars.
[06:34] <twysted> and a side note, i have tried reinstalling from my own burnt cd and an offical pressed cd
[06:34] <nox> skalpel, sure, if you have universe sources. try this: sudo apt-get install k3b
[06:34] <skalpel> k, got it
[06:34] <cyphase> i don't know why firefox doesn't save IP addresses of domains..
[06:34] <craks> i mean why not use nptl but linuxthreads, any one knows?
[06:34] <craks> there is a problem using nptl under ppc linux?
[06:34] <cyphase> just in case DNS goes down, you can at least go to sites that you've been to
[06:35] <twysted> cyphase because the base system should cache dns :)
[06:35] <cefx> Where in dmesg would a USB 2.0 external hdd be found?
[06:35] <twysted> not firefox
[06:35] <cefx> I can't find what the device is called in /dev
[06:35] <cyphase> twysted, yes, well, that too
[06:35] <cefx> whitefang, using cedega?
[06:35] <nox> whitefang, what type of a game is guild wars? rpg?
[06:35] <cyphase> twysted, but it wouldn't be to gard for firefox to implement it until the base system does
[06:35] <asda> mount /dev/fd0
[06:35] <cefx> nox: mmorpg, no monthly fees
[06:35] <asda> mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified
[06:35] <asda> can help me sir
[06:35] <cyphase> hard*
[06:35] <cefx> like diablo
[06:35] <cefx> asda: is it an NTFS drive?
[06:36] <twysted> cyphase yes but thats something a browser shouldnt have to do, it could cause problems as well
[06:36] <whitefang> nox, its like a super-diablo
[06:36] <_frank> cyphase: yeah, how often does dns go down?
[06:36] <nox> whitefang, sorry, running guild wars with wine is not possible at this time. if you want to play it you will have to buy cedega.
[06:36] <skalpel> ugh, im not using k3b, it's made for kde, i use gnome.
[06:37] <poningru> um why isnt smeg in apt?
[06:37] <nox> whitefang, www.transgaming.com
[06:37] <poningru> err repos
[06:37] <cyphase> _frank, how many people really use RSS?
[06:37] <nox> skalpel, k3b works great in gnome.
[06:37] <PurpleMotion> you could have a MMOFPS
[06:37] <poningru> !smeg
[06:37] <ubotu> rumour has it, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[06:37] <Amaranth> poningru: it's in backports and breezy
[06:37] <cyphase> yet firefox has an RSS reader
[06:37] <lJlolel> !tell myself about java
[06:37] <whitefang> nox, but it ran in wine, just really slowly before i installed those drivers.
[06:37] <PurpleMotion> or a MMOBG
[06:37] <skalpel> nox: it is hideous.
[06:37] <lJlolel> hmm, no java bot?
[06:37] <PurpleMotion> or even a MMOCG
[06:37] <cefx> whitefang: you can warez cedega :)
[06:37] <PurpleMotion> you cant tie MMO to RPG :D
[06:37] <lJlolel> nevermind
[06:37] <cefx> Why not, PurpleMotion :
[06:37] <benplaut> Amaranth: how's your work on it going?
[06:37] <cefx> It's semantics.
[06:37] <whitefang> cefx, i'd rather not.
[06:38] <asda> !ping me
[06:38] <ubotu> asda: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:38] <PurpleMotion> cefx, i just illustrated that
[06:38] <_frank> Amaranth:
[06:38] <benplaut> (it's jut a bot)
[06:38] <lJlolel> is backports just an apt away?
[06:38] <Amaranth> benplaut: http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg-devel/loading_everything.png
[06:38] <PurpleMotion> ill be back, need to hit the store real quick
[06:38] <Amaranth> !backports
[06:38] <ubotu> backports is, like, .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[06:38] <sproingie> GW is slightly less "massive" than others.  lots of players, but you don't really compete for areas, it's all privately instanced per party
[06:38] <_frank> Amaranth: will Gnome put a menu editor in Gnome's next release?
[06:38] <sproingie> much like diablo in that sense
[06:38] <Amaranth> _frank: is has an editor that does nothing but show and hide entries
[06:39] <bur[n] er> _frank: www.slashdot.org read about it ;)
[06:39] <benplaut> _frank: yup, but it pales to smeg
[06:39] <_frank> Amaranth: maybe they would be interested in the work you've done ;-)
[06:39] <benplaut> Amaranth: darn... i just drooled on my keyboard :(
[06:39] <benplaut> whn'll it be ready for release?
[06:40] <bur[n] er> i think gnome 2.12 is beta1, so feature freeze is on, correct?
[06:40] <_frank> bur[n] er: if I remember correctly they change standard for menu information storage but a menu editor is pretty (absolutely) necessary. It's not much of an excuse
[06:40] <necrogami> Here's my problem: i installed Mozilla-Firefox w/ Apt-get and installed Java via the executable bin file on java.com i want to link Mozilla to the java what symlink do i need to put in ???
[06:40] <whitefang> how do i remove a pakage? is it apt-get uninstall wine?
[06:40] <Amaranth> _frank: did i mention smeg is in GNOME CVS now?
[06:40] <benplaut> oohhh
[06:41] <benplaut> nice!
[06:41] <maxy_noob> Hi guys!
[06:41] <Amaranth> doesn't mean much though
[06:41] <bur[n] er> necrogami: check wiki, faq, and ubuntuguide.org
[06:41] <nox> whitefang, you do it with: sudo apt-get remove <PKG>
[06:41] <twysted> necrogami: when you install java from the bin file you need to tell it to install to the firefox plugin dir
[06:41] <_frank> Amaranth: nice
[06:41] <necrogami> whitefang: apt-get remove <pkg>
[06:41] <maxy_noob> I installed RealPlayer 10 for Linux. But when I try to run it nothing happens
[06:41] <poningru> anyone know if the hoary-extras is not official yet?
[06:41] <twysted> maxy_noob: check realplayer's website for support on that
[06:42] <necrogami> twysted: whats the commandline for the firefox plugin?
[06:42] <benplaut> legally, i don't thik it can be official
[06:42] <Amaranth> http://dev.realistanew.com/compare.png
[06:42] <_frank> poningru: with w32codecs inside, could hoary-extras even be official?
[06:42] <maxy_noob> but I followed their instructions.
[06:42] <Amaranth> poningru: hoary-extras will never be official
[06:42] <twysted> necrogami its when you install the java not something u do in firefox
[06:42] <esac> ok i swear ive googled. how do i setup samba so that my windows machines can simply "net use" to them like normal .. id actually prefer just an open share, no authentication required if possible
[06:42] <necrogami> i know
[06:42] <poningru> ic
[06:42] <poningru> k thanks guys
[06:42] <cyphase> can someone give me a DNS server IP?
[06:42] <Amaranth> poningru: it's so illegal it could probably get you sued by the entire software industry
[06:42] <skalpel> has anyone else had any trouble using msn in linux?
[06:42] <asda> mount /dev/fd0
[06:43] <asda> mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified
[06:43] <poningru> right ic
[06:43] <necrogami> ./j2re-1.5.0_04.i586.bin -??????
[06:43] <asda> anyone wanna help me
[06:43] <poningru> does it conflict with hoary-backports?
[06:43] <twysted> asda is it a ntfs drive
[06:43] <poningru> could adding both cause problems?
[06:43] <esac> asda mount -t vfat /dev/fdo /mnt/floppy
[06:43] <Amaranth> poningru: no, hoary-backports is a seperate project
[06:43] <benplaut> Amaranth: hmm... do those arrows on the side in .8 mean that we'll be able to re-order entries?
[06:43] <skalpel> what does it mean when gnomebaker quits halfway through a write and asks me to insert a disc?
[06:43] <Amaranth> benplaut: you can in 0.7
[06:43] <_frank> poningru: no problems using both!
[06:43] <Amaranth> benplaut: if you're on KDE or GNOME 2.11
[06:44] <benplaut> aaahhh
[06:44] <benplaut> 2.10 doesn't impliment it
[06:44] <Amaranth> benplaut: right
[06:44] <poningru> hmm ok thanks guys
[06:44] <benplaut> that's a good reason to switch to breezy
[06:44] <benplaut> (j/k before you jump on me)
[06:44] <Amaranth> benplaut: 0.7.5 is the last version i'm keeping the 2.10 support in for, it probably added 200 lines of code i don't want to maintain anymore
[06:45] <benplaut> hmm
[06:45] <twysted> cyphase> <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:46] <PurpleMotion> still compiling, heh
[06:46] <sproingie> what the heck.  ghci segfaults out of the box
[06:46] <cyphase> thanx twysted
[06:46] <twysted> welcome
[06:47] <PurpleMotion> mplayer segfaults when i try to play dvds, heh
[06:47] <PurpleMotion> but kaffeine plays them fine
[06:47] <PurpleMotion> go finger
[06:47] <twysted> probibly a bad setting in mplayer
[06:48] <PurpleMotion> i doubt it
[06:48] <lJlolel> what will be the next name of ubuntu?
[06:48] <PurpleMotion> breezy badger
[06:48] <lJlolel> no hog?
[06:48] <benplaut> nope
[06:48] <twysted> check it purplemotion, i couldnt play dvds in mplayer unless i mounted the dvd and it was set as the right device :P
[06:49] <poningru> gaaah wtf
[06:49] <benplaut> Breezy Badgerhog
[06:49] <lJlolel> of course
[06:49] <cefx> I need help finding what device my external hard drive is.
[06:49] <whitefang> sudo apt-get install xlibmesa-glu-dev
[06:49] <poningru> there is a firefox package in backports
[06:49] <cefx> Any tips, people?
[06:49] <whitefang> oops
[06:49] <poningru> and a mozilla-firefox in main
[06:49] <PurpleMotion> i get a decode_video error then mplayer segfaults
[06:49] <poningru> or whatever it is in
[06:49] <whitefang>   gcc-3.4 3.4.3-9ubuntu4
[06:49] <whitefang>   gcc 4:3.3.5-1
[06:49] <whitefang>   gcc-3.3 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2
[06:49] <benplaut> cefx: go to Places menu, and see all of the options there
[06:49] <whitefang> which of these is the best package to install?
[06:49] <PurpleMotion> and, tmk, everything is setup right
[06:49] <benplaut> it should be in that menu
[06:49] <twysted> oh nice purplemotion
[06:49] <PurpleMotion> yah
[06:49] <cefx> uh it's not?
[06:50] <PurpleMotion> even if i try to open .vob files
[06:50] <cefx> it's an external drive that is not mounted
[06:50] <PurpleMotion> same deal
[06:50] <benplaut> oh
[06:50] <skalpel> is there an app top unpack rar files that uses a gui?
[06:50] <PurpleMotion> i just dont have the best luck when it comes to video in linux, heh
[06:51] <PurpleMotion> doesnt ark do rar files if rar is installed?
[06:51] <benplaut> cefx: try "sudo /mnt/usbhdd" and then "mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/usbhdd"
[06:51] <cefx> benplaut, ideas?
[06:51] <twysted> ive always double clicked rar files and it did it for me
[06:51] <benplaut> oh, and a sudo on the second one
[06:51] <PurpleMotion> yup
[06:51] <cefx> benplaut, it's also ntfs
[06:51] <PurpleMotion> ark does rar files
[06:51] <gpd> sproingie: sorry for annoyance... but do you remember an X11 app called sproingie or springie or sproing or something... it was a spring simulator like sodaplay.com
[06:51] <benplaut> then you'll only be able to read it, not write
[06:51] <benplaut> brb
[06:51] <cafuego> it might need unrar-nonfree
[06:52] <PurpleMotion> DAMNIT
[06:52] <skalpel> what is the command to execute unrar-nonfree?
[06:52] <sproingie> gpd: there's an opengl screensaver named sproingies, inspired by qbert.  that's where i got the name
[06:52] <PurpleMotion> mpeg4ip error'd on make
[06:52] <PurpleMotion> FARK
[06:52] <cefx> benplaut, /mnt/usbhdd isn't a command
[06:52] <cafuego> skalpel: 'unrar', if it is installed
[06:53] <skalpel> it is, but that does not offer me a gui, it is a command line program
[06:53] <ricosuave17> how do i log onto a ssh computer
[06:53] <PurpleMotion> why in the hell cant you just 'make player'
[06:53] <gpd> sproingie: ok, no problem, thought you might be talking about that spring thing... I think it might be solaris come to think of it...
[06:53] <mebaran> what marillat branch should I use for mplayer
[06:54] <crimsun> mebaran: for hoary? use sarge.
[06:54] <mebaran> I need version 1.07 because the early ones are pretty buggy on amd64
[06:54] <cafuego> mebaran: none
[06:54] <mebaran> crimsun, for breezy atm
[06:54] <crimsun> better yet, compile it on your own system.
[06:54] <skalpel> UNRAR 3.40 freeware      Copyright (c) 1993-2004 Alexander Roshal
[06:54] <mebaran> I was trying to use build dep
[06:54] <skalpel> is that the correct version?
[06:54] <cafuego> mebaran: marrilat is debianused and youll get libc6 depend issues
[06:54] <skalpel> all i get is a command line help response
[06:54] <cafuego> mebaran: Basically, don't use breezy.
[06:54] <mebaran> cafuego, it is working ok
[06:55] <PurpleMotion> i mean wouldnt it make sense to be able to 'make player'???
[06:55] <mebaran> mplayer works
[06:55] <Sighkick> Good evening from NZ... is anyone able to help with a sound card problem?
[06:55] <cefx> Anyone know how I can find the hdd?
[06:55] <mebaran> but I need libdvdcss to do anything
[06:55] <crimsun> Sighkick: shoot
[06:55] <cafuego> mebaran: And if you want dvd or avi access, don't use amd64.
[06:55] <mebaran> cafuego, it ALWAYS worked before
[06:55] <mebaran> cafuego, you dont know what you are talking about
[06:55] <cafuego> mebaran: You'll want a 32bit version then.
[06:55] <cefx> What do you mean, cafuego ?
[06:55] <mebaran> a source compile works fine
[06:55] <mebaran> mplayer v1.07pre works like a charm on my two boxes encoding and everything
[06:55] <cafuego> mebaran: I *RUN* amd64, mate. I know what DOES and DOES NOT work here.
[06:56] <mebaran> cafuego, I ran amd64
[06:56] <cefx> cafuego, help me find this hard drive to mount it :P
[06:56] <mebaran> what is your problem
[06:56] <Sighkick> crimsun, have tried to install 2 legacy ISA sound cards... no joy.  Is there anyway to get them to work easily or is it a mammoth compile driver task?
[06:56] <mebaran> in dvd
[06:56] <cafuego> mebaran: yeah, tarball installs is an altogether different issue.
[06:56] <mebaran> yeah
[06:56] <cafuego> mebaran: Locks up the box (hard)
[06:56] <mebaran> but building an mplayer pkg is easy
[06:56] <mebaran> cafuego, ah I got that a couple times
[06:56] <mebaran> I assumed it was heating issues .....
[06:57] <mebaran> sometiems it doesnt though
[06:57] <cefx> Well some help everyone is. :(
[06:57] <PurpleMotion> mplayer homepage down for anyone else?
[06:57] <mebaran> isnt encoding supposed to be one of those things that 64 bits excels at?
[06:57] <f_newton> if your software will accept it yes
[06:57] <cafuego> mebaran: yeah, as long as the encoders don't use ia32 ASM
[06:57] <f_newton> lol
[06:57] <mebaran> cafuego, ahhhhh
[06:57] <cefx> Is there ANY ONE that can help me?
[06:58] <PurpleMotion> cefx:  what are you on about?
[06:58] <DekaPink> If only I could make TMPGenc work... :3
[06:58] <mebaran> the havent ported mplayer yet from assembler
[06:58] <mebaran> or ffmpeg
[06:58] <mebaran> or ... anything?
[06:58] <cefx> PurpleMotion, I can't find my external HDD which is connected via USB in DMESG to mount it.
[06:58] <cafuego> mebaran: no idea, I do my recoding on win32.
[06:58] <PurpleMotion> cefx:  /dev/sda ?
[06:58] <PurpleMotion> should be
[06:58] <cefx> checking
[06:58] <cefx> How can i check?
[06:58] <mebaran> cafuego, bad bad man
[06:58] <mebaran> heheh
[06:59] <PurpleMotion> cefx: cat /var/log/messages | grep -i /dev/sd
[06:59] <DekaPink> Now, to amuse everyone... the amusing ubuntu girl my friend found: http://www.wakachan.org/os/src/1122485798403.jpg
[06:59] <cafuego> mebaran: As long as Linux doesn't have decent GUI software to do it I won't be switching.
[06:59] <PurpleMotion> is the mplayer homepage down for anyone else?
[06:59] <f_newton> cafuego, excuse me?
[06:59] <mebaran> acidrip is decent enough
[06:59] <f_newton> linux has great gui software for recording video
[06:59] <mebaran> cafeugo, have you tried mythtv
[06:59] <twysted> hello im using ubuntu 5.04 and i cannot resolve domains, i have checked my nameservers and gateways, i am able to ping ips but not domains, and oddly i can still get updates/upgrades through apt and aptitude, any ideas?
[06:59] <cefx> nothing
[06:59] <Sighkick> Crimsun: u still there?  ISA Sound Cards too much of a problem?
[06:59] <mebaran> that is one of the few places linux HAS good gui
[07:00] <mebaran> Sighkick, you still have an ISA snd card
[07:00] <poningru> twysted: you sure its not your dns server?
[07:00] <cafuego> f_newton: As long as Linux doesn't have decent GUI software to transcode video/crearte DVDs I will keep using windows.
[07:00] <mebaran> cafuego, it does
[07:00] <crimsun> Sighkick: sorry, let me read
[07:00] <mebaran> for transcoding at least
[07:00] <twysted> poningru: i have tried my isp
[07:00] <mebaran> acidrip is a very nice gui
[07:00] <PurpleMotion> DekaPink:  too bad parts of it are cutoff..... that would be an awesome splashy theme
[07:00] <twysted> and my inhouse dns
[07:00] <poningru> twysted: have you tried resolving using another os?
[07:00] <mebaran> or dvdrip if you want to be a power user
[07:00] <poningru> you have an inhouse dns?
[07:00] <crimsun> Sighkick: which two cards?
[07:00] <skalpel> is there an app top unpack rar files that uses a gui?
[07:00] <poningru> wtf
[07:00] <cafuego> mebaran: What, with transcode as backend?
[07:00] <Sighkick> mebaran: yes, I was always under the impression that Linux was the way to keep older technology useful...
[07:01] <twysted> poningru: im on windows xp right now and i can resolve and so can every other box in my house, but this one machine will not resolve using my isp's or my own dns servers
[07:01] <DekaPink> PurpleMotion, Truly. :D
[07:01] <poningru> anyway how are you connecting?
[07:01] <mebaran> Sighkick, Isa is prety old
[07:01] <mebaran> but I am sure you can make it work
[07:01] <Sighkick> crimsun, : I have tried an ESS1868F and a Creative Vibra 16
[07:01] <mebaran> do you know what kind of car itis
[07:01] <Sighkick> BRB fone
[07:01] <lJlolel> thank you all!
[07:01] <lJlolel> exit
[07:01] <mebaran> cafuego, no
[07:01] <crimsun> Sighkick: which did you want to use?