[17:29] <salty-horse> hey. I have issues with Nvidia 750GTX on Ubuntu using the drivers in xorg-edgers. is this on topic for this channel?
[20:46] <soee> salty-horse: dont think so
[20:46] <soee> tryasking on #ubuntu but xorg-edgers is not official/recommended repo
[22:10] <salty-horse> thanks


[03:50] <nadhi> HI Chan, how to not set ip address for a connection? but default link-loop is being set for ipv4


[01:10] <sighnus> xp?
[01:11] <sighnus> is there a xubuntu art irc channel
[01:24] <Jester45> how do you make the settings in xvidtune to start after a reboot?
[01:28] <Lunis> even pressing random keys to try and stumble on the hotkey doesn't work D:<
[01:31] <rici> Lunis: did you enable some input manager, or what?
[01:32] <Lunis> rici, don't know, cat stepped on the keyboard and now i have a rather annoying keyboard floating on top of _everything_
[01:33] <rici> does it have normal sort of keys on it, or some different language?
[01:33] <Lunis> normal keys
[01:33] <Lunis> i can't right-click it's taskbar entry, i can't close it
[01:33] <rici> i guess it's the cat-on-a-keyboard input method :)
[01:34] <Lunis> rici, xD I think you may be right ;)
[01:34] <Lunis> it's even there when i reboot
[01:34] <Lunis> :x
[01:34] <rici> does it have a name or anything?
[01:34] <rici> did you try SCIM setup menu?
[01:34] <Lunis> "Keyboard"
[01:36] <rici> i'm sure i've seen that, but i can't remember where
[01:36] <daeds> hey, does xubuntu suport prism wifi pcmcia cards?
[01:42] <Lunis> is there an app that can grab the process that's running behind a certain window?
[01:48] <rici> yeah, i was just trying to remember its name
[01:50] <rici> Lunis: xwininfo
[01:50] <rici> Lunis: damn, doesn't show process id
[01:51] <Lunis> nope :<
[01:51] <Lunis> curses
[01:52] <Jester45> why not
[01:52] <Jester45> ps aux and fine what you think it is
[01:52] <Jester45> find*
[01:53] <Lunis> Jester45, so many procs, none of them look like what i need
[01:53] <Jester45> i rember i used it before
[02:03] <Jester45> could you pastebin it
[02:10] <Lunis> pastebin what, exactly?
[02:13] <Jester45> ps aux
[02:18] <Lunis> Jester45, http://attachr.com/9414
[02:53] <Jester45> Lunis, sorry i forgot about you :) do you know what matchbox-keybaord is? try "kill 2861"
[02:54] <Lunis> Jesta, it's ok. yeah that was it. i wonder how it's activated in the first place?
[02:54] <Lunis> Jester45^
[02:55] <Lunis> Jester45, hum. well that got rid of it thank God
[02:55] <Lunis> Jester45, part of the matchbox minimalist enviroment
[03:04] <Jester45> anyone know how to run startxfce4 once boot is complete (not using gdm) and running it with non root user i put it in rc.local but root runs it
[03:04] <Jester45> so i dont get my config
[03:04] <Jester45> and my X is root
[08:25] <nikolam> Hello
[08:25] <nikolam> Is it normal for Ubuntu to bring on ROOT shell up, every time it finds something is not just right (like changed UUID of partition on /etc/fstab and so..)
[08:25] <nikolam> How to make it Not giving root privileges to anyone during boot?
[08:25] <Jester45> if you remove the root=UUID
[08:26] <Jester45> and uncomment the general partition it doesntdo that
[08:26] <nikolam> Yes, but main issue here is root shell
[08:26] <nikolam> uuid is second to that
[08:27] <Jester45> its because its erroring during the mount because the uuid isnt correct
[08:27] <nikolam> Aside of, that uuid is "by design" for ubuntu
[08:27] <Jester45> and it drops you to a root shell when it errors
[08:27] <nikolam> yes but I dont want to give every user root privileges! .. ;*(
[08:28] <Jester45> remove the uuid and replace with /dev/hda1 or /sda1 and so on
[08:28] <nikolam> Could i desable it, say in grub or in some boot script and so..
[08:28] <Jester45> YOU WILL NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:28] <Jester45> LISTEN TO ME
[08:28] <nikolam> i will do that
[08:28] <Jester45> remove the uuid
[08:28] <nikolam> ok
[08:28] <Jester45> replace with the /dev/hdaN
[08:28] <Jester45> or how ever its listed on your system
[08:28] <Jester45> it should then mount fine
[08:29] <Jester45> uncommenting means removing the #
[08:29] <nikolam> i just tried to repair uuid`s in /etc/fstab with vol_id command
[08:29] <nikolam> Ok, Thanks
[08:29] <nikolam> :)
[08:29] <Jester45> this way is much simpler
[08:30] <nikolam> Yes but it is awful to whole system security just to `give` everyone who sits at machine root privileges ufff
[08:31] <Jester45> arrg
[08:31] <Jester45> if you do what im saying they dont
[08:31] <nikolam> Ok, thanks
[08:31] <Jester45> not my fault the devels take care of their systems and dont mess things up
[08:31] <Jester45> so they list drives with uuids
[08:34] <nikolam> :)
[08:39] <Jester45> hihi
[08:39] <cellofellow> hey hey
[08:39] <nikolam> hey
[09:16] <neenaoffline> which component of xfce uses python? does xfce use python at all ?
[09:18] <Jester45> yes
[09:18] <Jester45> mostof it is python
[09:20] <neenaoffline> huh ? not xubuntu xfce
[09:20] <neenaoffline> someone on #xfce said none of them
[09:20] <cellofellow> xfce is entirely C if I'm not mistaken.
[09:20] <neenaoffline> yeah, thought so
[09:21] <Jester45> allmost all the tools xubuntu adds are python
[09:21] <cellofellow> ah, only a couple of em like system-config-printer and update-manager
[09:23] <Jester45> u sure?
[09:25] <cellofellow> yeah, pretty sure
[09:25] <cellofellow> the Restricted Drivers Manager perhaps
[09:32] <Jester45> would this be ~/.
[09:32] <Jester45> oops
[09:37] <mrpok> hey hey
[09:37] <Jester45> hi
[09:37] <mrpok> Got another problem for you. :)
[09:38] <cellofellow> ok
[09:38] <mrpok> I can't seem to get k3b to burn from mp3
[09:38] <mrpok> Even after installing libk3b2-mp3
[09:39] <cellofellow> I think a good music burner I've heard of is Serpentine
[09:39] <cellofellow> !serpentine
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about serpentine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <cellofellow> never tried it
[09:40] <cellofellow> !info serpentine
[09:40] <ubotu> serpentine: An application for creating audio CDs. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7-4ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 81 kB, installed size 704 kB
[09:40] <cellofellow> there  you go.
[09:40] <cellofellow> I know Exaile has a Serpentine plugin.
[09:40] <cellofellow> Sounds sweet.
[09:41] <mrpok> OK, I'll check it out
[09:42] <mrpok> woah... Serpentine may be small, but once it gets all the dependencies it'll take 20mb. :)
[09:42] <cellofellow> :(
[09:42] <cellofellow> gee, I should check what I recommend.
[09:43] <cellofellow> I think there is command-line version that doesn't need huge GNOME libs or something. I think that's what Exaile uses. Not sure, checking.
[09:45] <cellofellow> Exaile's Plugin thing isn't working right now. :)
[09:46] <cellofellow> :( I mean
[09:53] <mrpok> Oh, it's not a problem, I've plenty of space.
[09:55] <mrpok> Serpentine needs the gstreamer mp3 files, apparently.
[09:55] <mrpok> That may be the problem with k3b as well
[09:56] <cellofellow> I think for MP3 in gstreamer you need gstreamer-plugins-bad or something
[09:56] <cellofellow> I'd install all of the gstreamter plugins packages if I was you
[10:01] <mrpok> Do I need gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3? What's fluendo?
[10:30] <hyper_ch> hiho
[10:32] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: rTorrent is really nice :)
[11:28] (zs6jce/#xubuntu) can never have to much
[11:28] (hyper_ch/#xubuntu) zs6jce: it's a trade off :) more swap = better for the system but less space for stuff ;)
[11:28] (zs6jce/#xubuntu) true
[11:28] (hyper_ch/#xubuntu) zs6jce: you can have too much swap ;)
[11:29] (hyper_ch/#xubuntu) oh well, just go for something between 256 and 512mb
[11:29] (zs6jce/#xubuntu) while i have been typing the laptop did something
[11:29] (zs6jce/#xubuntu) now there is a blue screen
[11:29] (zs6jce/#xubuntu) low mem on top
[11:29] (hyper_ch/#xubuntu) yes, what does it say?
[11:29] <hyper_ch> anything else?
[11:29] <zs6jce> and a flashing prompt at bottom
[11:30] <hyper_ch> anything else?
[11:30] <zs6jce> i hate the unknown waiting for something that might happen or not
[11:30] <hyper_ch> flashing prompt at the bottom is not good
[11:30] <zs6jce> still Low memory mode with blue screen and prompt at bottom
[11:31] <hyper_ch> I don't recall this having happened when I installed it on the 64mb notebook
[11:31] <hyper_ch> I guess you're out of luck  ;(
[11:31] <zs6jce> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[11:31] <zs6jce> lol
[11:31] <zs6jce> will get ram
[11:31] <hyper_ch> the prompt is not good
[11:31] <zs6jce> then try again
[11:31] <hyper_ch> or do a console install only
[11:31] <zs6jce> but ill remember the latin1 (for western euro)
[11:32] <hyper_ch> does that notebook has a network adapter?
[11:32] <zs6jce> k ill try that because i found a website that guides you to install the xfce later
[11:32] <zs6jce> yes i believe modem and ethernet
[11:32] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: installing it later is simple:   sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:32] <zs6jce> (10 or 100 /
[11:33] <hyper_ch> ok :) that's good
[11:34] <zs6jce> still flashing maybe is (i cant quess)
[11:34] <zs6jce> guess
[11:34] <hyper_ch> oh well, you can let it run
[11:34] <hyper_ch> it won't damage anything ;=
[11:35] <zs6jce> dont feel that harddisk or cdrom spinning
[11:35] <hyper_ch> except for the life-span of the batteries but I think on such an old notebook the batteries don't have much life anyway after fully being charged
[11:35] <hyper_ch> you could put it aside and go out to the beach or something ;)
[11:35] <zs6jce> battery`s are dead have to repack
[11:36] <zs6jce> wish i where at the beach then i wouldnt have to mess with pc and laptops
[11:36] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: just make sure you don't invest too much money on that notebook
[11:37] <hyper_ch> no beach here either
[11:37] <zs6jce> i paid about $40 for it
[11:37] <zs6jce> it is my first laptop
[11:37] <hyper_ch> how much will the ram be?
[11:39] <zs6jce> dont know think about $13 dollars for 128 but could be wrong cause im basing it on P2 PC ram
[11:39] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: wow... well, here is ram for such old equipment not that cheap anymore because there's not much available ;(
[11:39] <zs6jce> still flashing
[11:39] <hyper_ch> that's why I said not to invest too much
[11:40] <hyper_ch> oh well, can't really tell you what to do with it... I tend to think because you have a prompt it died
[11:40] <zs6jce> yea its a toy so wont over capitalise
[11:41] <hyper_ch> I need to get myself also a notebook
[11:41] <zs6jce> yea i think the install failed so i will try the command line
[11:41] <hyper_ch> good luck :)
[11:41] <zs6jce> notebooks are xpensive and THEN some
[11:41] <zs6jce> thanks and good bye
[11:42] <hyper_ch> I know they are expensive... but it would quite help me on my job
[11:43] <zs6jce> You should think of the notebook as an extension to the PC and use the PC as the storage and backup place
[11:43] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: guess why I have 4 harddisks in my computer ;)
[11:43] <highvoltage> zs6jce: is that a .za callsign?
[11:43] <zs6jce> lol only have 3 cause i have a dvd to
[11:44] <hyper_ch> Sysinfo for 'xubi': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running Xfce 4.4.0, CPU: AMD Sempron 2400+ at 1683 MHz (3371 bogomips), HD: 714/1009GB, RAM: 998/1010MB, 165 proc's, 7.18d up
[11:44] <zs6jce> yes for radio amateurs
[11:45] <highvoltage> cool, I'm doing my radio exam in September
[11:45] <zs6jce> lol which country
[11:45] <highvoltage> south africa too, western cape. so I'll have a ZR1 and then hopefully a ZS1 some point in the future
[11:46] <zs6jce> study hard!!! cause its hard
[11:46] <hyper_ch> ;)
[11:46] <highvoltage> heh, ok.
[11:46] <zs6jce> my brother tried twice and failed
[11:46] <highvoltage> ouch!
[11:46] <hyper_ch> what does that exam include?
[11:47] <zs6jce> get the Andrew Roos guide (i think is at the sarl website)
[11:47] <zs6jce> radio procedures and electronic
[11:48] <zs6jce> electronic stuff like volts and amps and ohms
[11:48] <highvoltage> I have it (busy uploading quickly)
[11:48] <hyper_ch> no clue
[11:48] <hyper_ch> I've heard of volts and amps and ohms in physics class a long time ago ;)
[11:49] <zs6jce> yea thats the things you need to know but never use after wards
[11:49] <zs6jce> because the radios of today is more computer than radio
[11:50] <zs6jce> and there fore you cant really take out failed resistors and stuff like that
[11:50] <zs6jce> but it is use full is you want to build a power supply
[11:50] <hyper_ch> ^^
[11:50] <melsedir> whats a good alternative to k3b if you wanna stay clear of kde libs and such?
[11:50] <highvoltage> brasero is ok.
[11:51] <hyper_ch> gnomebaker
[11:51] <hyper_ch> xfburner just doesn't hit it well
[11:52] <melsedir> thanks i'll try them out
[11:52] <zs6jce> highvoltage  there is a Dummies guide to "electronics" and "radio amateurs" that could be usefull. (try pirebay they have 135 of these books)
[11:53] <melsedir> nerolinux is no good?
[11:53] <hyper_ch> melsedir: is it free?
[11:54] <melsedir> well no
[11:54] <zs6jce> so how do these chatrooms work. do you guys sit here and wait for noobs like me to come and bug you?
[11:54] <hyper_ch> melsedir: then I don't consider it as good :) k3b is the best one out there
[11:54] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: nah, doing other stuff and sometimes look in here
[11:55] <zs6jce> so some time you miss question the some one els gets it
[11:55] <hyper_ch> basically I'm watching some vids and waiting for B5 to be converted in mkv and have this open
[11:56] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: yes... sometimes we miss... but does that matter?
[11:56] <zs6jce> what is B5
[11:56] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: Babylon 5 - my fav. tv show
[11:58] <zs6jce> cool i would luv to be able to download all my favourite shows and movies but the 4gig cap is a reall prop cause i have to share it with the family and we are always over
[11:58] <zs6jce> the cap
[11:58] <zs6jce> by about 2gigs
[11:58] <zs6jce> lol
[11:58] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: you mean download cap?
[11:58] <zs6jce> and south africa is the most xpensive
[11:58] <hyper_ch> hmmm, I would hit that limit every other day or so
[11:59] <zs6jce> yip download and up = 4gig total or you pay extra
[11:59] <zs6jce> I KNow
[11:59] <zs6jce> Still have to wait to 21st to download again
[11:59] <zs6jce> then wait 20 days and download agian
[11:59] <zs6jce> lol
[12:00] <zs6jce> LOL xubuntu just inform me that No cdrom was detected
[12:00] <zs6jce> but how on earth did i load xubuntu
[12:01] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: maybe an error on the disc
[12:01] <zs6jce> lol
[12:01] <hyper_ch> at boot, select the integrity check
[12:01] <zs6jce> it asks for a cd-rom driver
[12:01] <zs6jce> so ill google
[12:01] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: in the last 12h I have uploaded 3gb through bittorrent
[12:01] <zs6jce> NOoooooooooooooooooooo unfair
[12:01] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: what? interesting
[12:02] <hyper_ch> I love my cable connection
[12:02] <zs6jce> we at least got dsl so no more dailup for me
[12:03] <zs6jce> small mircals
[12:03] <zs6jce> damn i sux at spelling
[12:03] <hyper_ch> well, in my new appartement I'll also have DSL
[12:03] <hyper_ch> 5000kbit down / 500 kbit up for CHF 49.-/m
[12:04] <zs6jce> :( only have 384 down and think 192 up
[12:04] <hyper_ch> or 15'000 down and 1'000 up for 89.-/m
[12:05] <zs6jce> the prob is that we only have one tel com provider and it owns the sea cable to europe. but there is a plan to get a new operator on it feet
[12:06] <hyper_ch> well, until a couple of years ago it was sort of the same situation here in switzerland... only one telcom provider
[12:06] <hyper_ch> prices have dropped since massivley
[12:06] <zs6jce> we pay ZAR  111 for line the dsl is zar 150  and then the cap is zar 179
[12:07] <hyper_ch> well, I hope for you that your telcom provider will soon have concurrence... it will drop on prices
[12:08] <zs6jce> and then some
[12:08] <zs6jce> lunch time
[12:09] <hyper_ch> same time zone I guess :)
[12:09] <zs6jce> yip swiss and us is gmt +2
[12:09] <zs6jce> bye
[12:10] <hyper_ch> nah, we are gmt +1 but have daylight savings
[12:47] <zs6jce> hyper_ch: hi im back.
[12:47] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: ;)
[12:50] <zs6jce> K i have a couple of oooold 486 laptops do you have some advise as to which operating system to use. I wont be personaly using the laptops. But do you think i should try something like puppy linux. (Or maybe win 95 for the comfort of the users that are still stuck in windoze)
[12:53] <zs6jce> by the way i think my cdrom is not supported by xubuntu and there for it wont install.
[12:53] <zs6jce> but ill find a fix
[12:54] <hyper_ch> cdrom should be supported
[01:00] <zs6jce> no cdrom is not supported its a matsushita and xubuntu said that it might not be supported and that i can pick from a list or use a stiffy. so ill try and install xubuntu agian.
[01:02] <zs6jce> i do feel like an idoit for missing the western europe language think
[01:07] <zs6jce> if you want to see an awesome nature clip go to youtube and search for "Battle at the Kruger"
[01:07] <zs6jce> 9.5mil ppl have seen it
[01:45] <anandanbu> I have installed Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows XP and i need install LinuxMint 3.0 will it affect the ubuntu GRUB or other apps
[02:32] <razor111> hi all, i'm looking for a program like pc suite to connect my nokia on xubuntu, ??
[02:45] <megaproxy> OS: WinXP Professional 5.1 SP2 (Build #2600) CPU: Intel Pentium III, 851 MHz, 256KB Video: ATI Mobility 128 AGP 2X (DELL) (1024x768x32bpp 60Hz) Sound: ESS Maestro 3 Memory: Used: 149/256MB Uptime: 1d 1h 21m 48s HD: Free: 11.00 GB/18.63 GB Connection: NETGEAR RangeMax(TM) Wireless PC Card WPN511 - Packet Scheduler Miniport @ 108.0 Mbps (Rec: 129.14MB Sent: 17.21MB)
[02:45] <megaproxy> whats the best linux to use on this lappy?
[02:46] <pleia2> ubuntu should run fine, but I'd go with xubuntu because I like it better ;)
[02:48] <megaproxy> yea i was told to use xubuntu
[02:48] <megaproxy> somthing like suse would be to much of a footprint rite?
[02:49] <vidd> suse is like puting an elephant in a cat carrier!
[02:49] <vidd> =] \
[02:49] <megaproxy> lol
[02:49] <megaproxy> thought so
[02:50] <megaproxy> lol
[02:50] <megaproxy> cheers
[02:50] <megaproxy> im guna go see the red arrows fly and stuff
[02:50] <megaproxy> so ill bbl
[03:36] <expose> hi
[03:36] <expose> How long is Lont Term Support?
[03:37] <vidd> 3 years standard 5 year server
[03:37] <expose> thanks.
[03:38] <expose> and, "server" means actually the same version, but desktop packages like openoffice excluded
[03:38] <expose> ?
[03:39] <expose> so, if i install a typical desktop, and after 4 years, when only server support is still available, the basic packages and maybe an apache i installed on that desktop will still be updated?
[03:39] <vidd> idk....read the "support" page on ubuntu.com
[06:05] <ericvmelo> Can somebody help me?
[06:05] <hyper_ch> !question | ericvmelo
[06:05] <ubotu> ericvmelo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:09] <ericvmelo> Well, I have a Sound Blaster Live sound card on Xubuntu, but the sound is not working. I figured out so far, since my computer is DELL, that my sound card should use the module snd-emu10k1x instead of snd-emu10k1 that it is using now. I'm trying 'modprobe snd-emu10k1x', but it gives an error.
[06:15] <TheSheep> ericvmelo: you could maybe try and blacklist the snd-emu10k1 module
[06:15] <TheSheep> ericvmelo: but I'd search for that module name on the forum first
[06:17] <Pumpernickel> And possibly tell us what the error was.
[06:17] <Pumpernickel> Generic errors are hard to debug.
[06:19] <ericvmelo> I'll try to blacklist and see what happens, then. I've already searched in a lot of forums and tried several things but it didn't work yet.
[06:21] <ericvmelo> "FATAL: Error inserting snd_emu10k1x (/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1x.ko): Invalid argument
[06:21] <ericvmelo> FATAL: Error running install command for snd_emu10k1x"
[06:29] <ericvmelo> I blacklisted snd-emu10k1, restarted, but it still can't install the module... :(
[07:53] <neclimdul> ok, i'm consistently running out of memory on the detecting hardware stage of the xubuntu install(granted this old lappy only has 48M of ram with 100M swap)
[07:53] <neclimdul> anyone have any suggestions(this is text mode on the alternate cd btw)
[07:57] <hyper_ch> 48mb ram is not enough
[07:57] <crimsun> as early as possible, switch to a busybox shell, create a much larger swap partition, and mount it.
[07:57] <hyper_ch> 64mb is the minimum
[07:57] <neclimdul> hmm... that wasn't what the ubuntu site said
[07:58] <hyper_ch> To run the Desktop CD (LiveCD + Install CD), you need 128 MB RAM to run or 192 MB RAM to install. The Alternate Install CD only required you to have 64 MB RAM.
[07:58] <hyper_ch> Once installed, Xubuntu can run with 64 MB RAM, but it is strongly recommended to use at least 128 MB RAM.
[07:59] <neclimdul> great
[07:59] <Jester45> it can run with less if you customize it and have swap
[07:59] <neclimdul> well, looks like I'll just spend a week installing gentoo then
[07:59] <hyper_ch> with 48mb ram I'd go with DSL
[07:59] <Jester45> i used 59mb ram once booting is done
[07:59] <Jester45> DSL is nice
[08:00] <neclimdul> I've got DSL-N running right now.  would like a decent installer though


 I don't think this is good.
 I hope it is the actual ram and not the slots
 @KMyers
 There's an actual anker store?
 Yeah!
 XD
 Oh gawd... I need to go there
 XD
 @Ivoriesablaze @KMyers Found a store for Joel
 @SivaMachina that processor is fried due to overheating.
 You might be able to save it with some thermal compound but it looks like the processor is done.  They don't usually hit boiling point and survive.
 Looks like I am out of a working computer again.
 I thought it might have been the ram last night. Because the night before the laptop ended up being unplugged while in suspend.
 yeah ...it load grub and then when it tries to load a kernel it black screens and the heat sink just gets hotter and the fan spins up
 Damn...
 Let me see what I have laying around a bit later
 @KMyers, Thank you


[12:16] <nagerst> is it possible to use the libflasplayer.so from flashfox in ubuntu as a browserplugin?


[15:06] <davmor2> cyphermox: just to add to the headaches 14.04.3+daily iso  fails to create the EFI partition so won't run I assume that might have a knock on effect on upgrades too not sure what effect though I can maybe have a play in a vm though
[15:06] <cyphermox> it can't write the EFI partition?
[15:06] <cyphermox> lacking space?
[15:07] <cyphermox> partitioning probably wouldn't be affected by any of this, except perhaps by the disk becoming full at some point
[15:07] <cyphermox> (on upgrade, I mean)
[15:07] <cyphermox> davmor2: could you file a bug, and add all of syslog from the installer?
[15:07] <davmor2> cyphermox: fresh install not upgrade
[15:08] <davmor2> cyphermox: will do
[15:08] <davmor2> cyphermox: oh this was a fresh install wiping the disk
[15:09] <davmor2> so it created a new partition
[15:09] <cyphermox> yes, but you said it could maybe affect upgrades
[15:09] <cyphermox> I'm just responding to that
[15:10] <davmor2> cyphermox: indeed I'm wondering if the latest kernel is missing the signing or something
[15:27] <cyphermox> davmor2: shouldn't be
[15:28] <davmor2> cyphermox: give me a minute and I'll check
[15:42] <davmor2> cyphermox: more fun and games I enabled wifi this time it downloaded some updates and installed correctly :)  I can only assume there fore that something landed late the first part got in the image the second part didn't so I guess that means it should be fixed tomorrow automagically so I'll retry it then
[15:57] <cyphermox> yes, possbily


[00:00] <surfn__> I'm trying to configure rdesktop - what files do I need to install on the target machine to make this work?
[00:05] <xixor> surfn__: rdesktop, the Microsoft RDP client?
[00:05] <xixor> surfn__: I do this all the time.  The target machine just needs to be running the RDP server
[00:06] <surfn__> Sorry, its a linux box, what do I need to install to run the RDP server?
[00:06] <surfn__> xixor: does that make sense?
[00:07] <zacarias> Is there a place (like an editable text fikle) where the application settings are stored?
[00:07] <xixor> surfn__: RDP server only runs on windows
[00:07] <surfn__> I've installed the rdesktop on the local Kubuntu box, but what do I need to install on the target (Debian) to rdesktop into it?
[00:08] <xixor> surfn__: you cannot.  rdesktop is a client for Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP), which is a service that only windows computers have
[00:08] <DarthFrog> !vnc | surfn__
[00:08] <xixor> surfn__: there are some technologies that can do this for linux: VNC, NX, Xforwarding, Xforwarding over SSH
[00:10] <surfn__> k cheers, I'll look into VNC...
[00:14] <xixor> For the past 10 years I've used VNC, NX, Xforwarding.... none of them hold a candle to RDP
[00:15] <zacarias> I set Gwenview to open on full screen (in a compulsory way) in the "special aplication settings". Now, I can't access the window bar of the application to turn the setting off, because it doesn't leave full screen. Any help?
[00:15] <DarthFrog> zacarias: What happens when you press ALT-M when the gwenview window has the focus?
[00:17] <zacarias> DarthFrog: Nothing happens. Should it show the window menu?
[00:17] <DarthFrog> Try Alt-W.
[00:18] <zacarias> DarthFrog: Again, nothing.
[00:18] <DarthFrog> Hmm, strange.
[00:18] <DarthFrog> Alt-F should help.
[00:19] <DarthFrog> or Alt-S
[00:23] <phiscribe> f11
[00:36] <zacarias> DarthFrog: Hi, I managed how to do it: System Settings->Window Behaviour->Window Rules, and there it was for me to edit. Thanks anway! :-)
[00:37] <DarthFrog> zacarias: Glad to hear it.
[02:21] <Brustofski-Fan> 12.10 is a big improvement over 12.04. boot time seems twice as fast.. apt-get is faster.. not geting the kde errors like i did in 12.04.
[02:22] <satyam> Hi
[02:22] <Brustofski-Fan> hello
[02:22] <xixor> Brustofski-Fan: I found 12.04 to be pretty unstable as well
[02:23] <satyam> I use 12.04 and love it
[02:23] <satyam> I put 12.10 on my laptop but given the difference in hardware haven't notice any performance differences
[02:24] <Brustofski-Fan> from boot to login screen 14 sec
[02:25] <Brustofski-Fan> think 12.04 was like 20 22 sec
[02:25] <satyam> wow, quite a difference
[02:25] <satyam> I'll have to get around to upgrading
[02:26] <Brustofski-Fan> i know... Like windows 8 has about a 10 sec faster boot then win 7 did
[02:26] <Brustofski-Fan> but 12.10 jumped from kernel 3.2 to 3.5
[02:26] <satyam> have you used windows 8
[02:27] <Brustofski-Fan> Yeah.. downloaded file share.. and a activation crack
[02:28] <satyam> What's it like?
[02:29] <sevenhill> satyam: just like all m$ crap useless
[02:29] <satyam> I don't use windows and kind of selfishly hope it sucks, but I'd like to know for sure
[02:30] <satyam> That's what I wanted to hear :)
[02:30] <Brustofski-Fan> Desktop is cleaner.. The metro UI is different... But i download a program.. called start8. That gives the win7 start menu
[02:30] <sevenhill> satyam: they try to make a market store like in android
[02:30] <satyam> My KDE setup right now is the best windowing environment I've had in 20 years.
[02:31] <satyam> They want to lock in people to their $
[02:31] <xixor> satyam: KDE is pretty good, eh?
[02:31] <Brustofski-Fan> Really all i need windows for is adobe photo shop CS5..
[02:31] <xixor> satyam: it's no windows 7, but it's pretty good
[02:32] <sevenhill> Brustofski-Fan: did you try with wine ?
[02:32] <satyam> I use a very old photoshop 7 in wine, and CS3 in virtual box sometimes
[02:33] <satyam> I like KDE much better than windows 7
[02:33] <sevenhill> Brustofski-Fan: by the way do you restart your computer to start ps cs5 or are you using one of virtual machines ?
[02:33] <Brustofski-Fan> Yeah.. about 5 times.. never get it to work... Going to put vbox on in a bit.. then win8 in vbox
[02:33] <satyam> I can do so much more
[02:33] <satyam> Virtual box runs programs very fast these days
[02:34] <satyam> No restart
[02:34] <Brustofski-Fan> I know. only thing i came across with virtual box and windows.. is video play back sucks
[02:35] <sevenhill> i think next version of ps must be work on cloud so they can easily make its client for linux ( most of filter or other craps will do in their cloud servers )
[02:35] <satyam> Interesting idea about ps
[02:35] <genewitc1> how do i tell what video card my system is currently using?
[02:36] <genewitc1> and/or is there better documentation for vgaswitcheroo
[02:37] <satyam> bye
[02:40] <genewitc1> hm
[02:46] <Brustofski-Fan> Now find me a good clean gray theme for the panel
[04:55] <vbgunz> Does anyone know how to shut up Instant Messenger up when it first launches? It somehow feels a need to tell me about 5 times it cannot connect to an account and when I check it, each account is connected. every single time and it's overly annoying :/
[04:56] <OerHeks> to what service, msn messenger?
[04:57] <vbgunz> I think every service, I get about 1 message for every account or atleast the messages pop up on full auto
[04:57] <vbgunz> I'm checking notifications in system settings for instant messenger *but* I believe turning that off will turn off other more important messages that I should probably be made aware of
[04:59] <OerHeks> are you on Kubuntu or ubuntu ?
[04:59] <vbgunz> kubuntu
[05:00] <vbgunz> I just realized I cannot shut down the instant messenger
[05:00] <vbgunz> I'd probably have to kill it but I am having a field day trying to find the proper way to exit it
[05:05] <vbgunz> running xkill and shooting down the instant messenger window results in just chilling and sipping a margarita in my system tray... really?
[05:05] <vbgunz> that's a crazy app
[05:07] <OerHeks> blame msn, i guess, heard it more before.
[06:37] <ghostconn00> hello
[06:57] <Barami> Hello.
[06:58] <Barami> I have a question. Ho w to use ibus in kubuntu-desktop ?
[07:00] <Barami> In the kde, gtk application can input by ibus. but. qt applications cannot input cjk by ibus.
[07:00] <Barami> I had installed ibus-qt.
[07:01] <Barami> What do i do?
[07:03] <sevenhill> could you try this : open konsole then
[07:03] <sevenhill> write : export QT_IM_MODULE=ibus
[07:03] <sevenhill> then start an application for example kate or kwrite
[07:03] <Barami> aleady setted to ibus.
[07:04] <sevenhill> i mean start kwrite in that konsole
[07:04] <sevenhill> because there were a small bug about fetching env before i'm not sure if it fixed or not
[07:05] <Barami> i have tried. But.. don't work.
[07:06] <Barami> only english can input..
[07:08] <sevenhill> could you also try this : export XMODIFIERS=@im=ibus
[07:08] <sevenhill> then start kwrite
[07:08] <Barami> ok.
[07:09] <Barami> Hmm.. dont work..
[07:09] <sevenhill> is ibus deamon working background ?
[07:09] <sevenhill> ps -ef | grep ibus
[07:11] <Barami> yes. and ibus icon showed in tray area.
[07:11] <sevenhill> which app are you trying on ?
[07:11] <Barami> kwrite
[07:14] <sevenhill> @Barami : is  ibus-qt4 installed  ?
[07:15] <Barami> yes
[07:16] <Barami> http://i45.tinypic.com/3460w2s.jpg
[07:18] <sevenhill> @Barami : this is for ubuntu but you may try : http://code.google.com/p/ibus/wiki/Ubuntu
[07:20] <Barami> yes.. i tried aleady.
[07:22] <sevenhill> This ? : http://rail02000.blogspot.com/2012/04/kubuntu-1204-beta2ibus.html
[07:22] <Barami> After installed ubuntu-desktop, i installed kubuntu-desktop meta package.
[07:28] <Barami> sevenhill, i cant see those setting page.
[07:28] <Barami> http://oi45.tinypic.com/240y6pv.jpg
[09:16] <giordano> antonio ci sei?
[09:24] <giordano> salve
[11:06] <jahoval> buenos días
[11:07] <jahoval> pues sí que sois habladores por aquí!
[11:07] <jahoval> algún español, por casualidad?
[11:08] <jahoval> o catalán? :-o)))
[11:09] <tsimpson> !es
[11:11] <jahoval> muchas gracias
[11:33] <Marius80> I've got a big problem
[11:33] <Marius80> I installed KDE 4.9.3 from the Backports
[11:34] <Marius80> since I realized, that this version is very buggy,  I would like to downgrade again
[11:34] <Marius80> question:  How do downgrade to the "normal" KDE  version  kubuntu 12.04 has been shipped with?
[11:35] <Peace-> Marius80: mm it's not easy
[11:36] <Peace-> Marius80: you need to ... for example install another DE for example razor-qt or lxde
[11:36] <Peace-> Marius80: then remove all kde stuff
[11:36] <Peace-> Marius80: remove the ppa form your source list
[11:36] <Peace-> Marius80: then reinstall kde from the standard repository
[11:36] <Marius80> Peace-, I just found a posting on a forum
[11:36] <Marius80> only problem is,  that I cannot understand it *LOL*
[11:37] <Marius80> Peace-, they use terms I never heard before
[11:37] <Marius80> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1378709
[11:37] <Marius80> Peace-, actually I do have things like gnome here
[11:37] <Marius80> gnome, icewm,  and trinity desktop
[11:38] <Peace-> Marius80: you have other desktop
[11:38] <Peace-> oh well
[11:39] <Marius80> Peace-, do you know what this guy is talking about?
[11:39] <Marius80> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8650035&postcount=6
[11:40] <Peace-> Marius80: i know
[11:41] <Marius80> Peace-,  can you explain it to me?
[11:41] <Marius80> what is a leader?
[11:41] <Marius80> what is left?
[11:41] <Peace-> Marius80: listen you wanna install your kde yes or not ?
[11:41] <Marius80> yes
[11:41] <Peace-> ok so remove evey kubuntu package cuz you have gnome like secondary DE
[11:42] <Peace-> then remove the ppa
[11:42] <Peace-> then reinstall kubuntu-desktop that's all
[11:42] <Marius80> how will I find out what packages belong to KDE?
[11:43] <Peace-> wait a moment i guess i need to upgrade my page
[11:44] <Marius80> will be back soon
[11:58] <Peace-> Marius80:  do this sudo apt-get install $(apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop | awk '/Depen/ || /Rec/{ gsub(/\,/,"") ;gsub(/Recommends:/,"");gsub(/Depends:/,""); print} ' | awk '{ printf "%s", $0 }')
[11:58] <Peace-> it should work but i am not sure
[11:58] <Peace-> this comamand get the dependeces of kubuntu-desktop package and converts it into a string that apt-get install should read
[12:00] <tsimpson> (hint) you know just about everything KDE related depends on kdelibs5
[12:01] <tsimpson> so removing that should just about remove everything, add autoremove and it should get rid of everything Kubuntu related too
[12:04] <Marius80> Peace-, re
[12:04] <Marius80> Peace-, thank you very much, I will try it out
[12:04] <Peace-> tsimpson: good
[12:05] <Peace-> tsimpson: i was thinkin to release a little bash script called kubuntu-kde-reinstaller
[12:13] <Marius80> other question:  How can I install a package with a broken dependency?
[12:14] <Marius80> there is a software, telling me that it needs a certain package,  but I know,  that this is not true
[12:14] <Marius80> how can I install it anyway?
[12:15] <Peace-> Marius80: You should not install it
[12:15] <Peace-> cuz the package is not well done
[12:15] <Marius80> Peace-, anyway,  how can I ?
[12:15] <Peace-> Marius80: dpkg man google
[12:16] <Marius80> hum?
[12:23] <Peace-> Marius80: 2 link here http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dpkg+force+broken+dependencies
[12:25] <Marius80> Peace-, that was the word ... "force" :)
[12:25] <Marius80> thank you!
[12:26] <Peace-> Marius80: teh force will be with you lol
[12:26] <Marius80> thank you :)
[12:26] <Marius80> I need to go to work now
[12:26] <Marius80> thank you very much!
[12:26] <Marius80> see you soon
[12:34] <xixor> !ppa
[12:34] <xixor> !addppa
[12:34] <xixor> !backports
[13:17] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:18] <alf_> hola alp1
[13:18] <alp1> hi alf
[13:19] <alf_> quehaces
[13:19] <alp1> hablar contigo
[13:20] <alf_> mandame el pingüino
[13:22] <alf_> si
[13:43] <Lectus> Hi! My microphone is not working on Kubuntu. Can anyone help me?
[13:45] <thelionroars> Lectus, have you tried setting the device priority in System Settings?
[13:47] <Lectus> No
[13:47] <Lectus> where's that?
[13:48] <thelionroars> Click on the Start (K) Menu, the 'System Settings'. Select Multimedia which is under the hardware section
[13:49] <thelionroars> In multimedia, click on 'Phonon' on the left, then click on 'Audio Recording'.
[13:49] <Lectus> Ok
[13:49] <Lectus> there's only one device in the list
[13:50] <thelionroars> are you able to test it?
[13:50] <Lectus> I tested my mic in a recording program... the problem is when I set it to rear mic it works, then it changes automatically back to front mic
[13:50] <Lectus> which doesn't work
[13:51] <thelionroars> strange. Is that after a restart or something
[13:51] <Peace-> Lectus: so it's a proigram problem
[13:51] <Peace-> not a device problem
[13:51] <Lectus> I guess it's something with pulse audio
[13:51] <Lectus> when it was just alsa it used to work
[13:52] <Peace-> Lectus: pulse shoul dnot be the problem
[13:52] <Peace-> anyway you can try with record -o test.wav
[13:52] <Peace-> press CRTL C to stopp
[13:52] <BluesKaj> Lectus, open alsamixer i the terminal , F6 to show all ctrls and make sure the inputs aren't muted (MM) , use the arrowe keys to navigate and the up down keys to increase / decrease the volume
[13:52] <Peace-> then play test.wav
[13:54] <BluesKaj> it's always best to start with alsmixer then setup phonon and pavucontrol (pulseaudio)
[13:54] <Lectus> volumes are fine in alsamixer
[13:54] <BluesKaj> und unmuted ?
[13:54] <Lectus> yes
[13:54] <BluesKaj> and
[13:55] <Lectus> is there a way to make it set rear mic as default?
[13:55] <Lectus> that would solve the problem
[13:55] <BluesKaj> ok , install pavucontrol
[13:55] <Lectus> I already have pavucontrol
[13:56] <BluesKaj> Lectus, then set the imput devices
[13:57] <mrlukeparry> I'm just wondering if anyone know's how I can test the kdevelop 4.4.1 packages
[13:57] <mrlukeparry> I have downloaded them but it says external dependencies aren't met
[13:58] <BluesKaj> mrlukeparry, best to ask in #kubuntu-devel
[13:59] <mrlukeparry> cool thank you
[13:59] <Lectus> strange... using "record" program it says /dev/mixer can't be found
[14:00] <BluesKaj> do you have sound with your audio outputs from amarok or ...?
[14:00] <Lectus> yes
[14:00] <BluesKaj> Lectus,^
[14:00] <Lectus> output is fine
[14:01] <BluesKaj> Lectus, and you're sure your mic inputs are enabled in pavucontrol
[14:01] <Lectus> yes
[14:02] <BluesKaj> what audio chip is loaded in alsamixer?
[14:02] <Lectus> it seems I got it to work now
[14:03] <Lectus> it's set to rear mic in pavucontrol
[14:03] <Lectus> and it isn't changing back to front mic
[14:06] <BluesKaj> my mic experience rather limited , but sometimes a reboot is in order after I/O changes
[14:09] <Lectus> I think I triggered the problem
[14:09] <Lectus> when I set the volume too high of the rear mic
[14:09] <Lectus> it changes automatically to front mic for some reason
[14:10] <BluesKaj> Lectus, what about kmix settings , sometimes they don't follow the changes
[14:13] <Lectus> kmix has the same settings
[14:15] <BluesKaj> anyone else have any suggestions ? but a reboot may be order to make the settings stick
[14:16] <Lectus> I'll try a reboot to see if settings stay in rear mic
[15:09] <Tonberry> is the kde battery plasmoid supposed to have support for more than one battery?
[15:09] <Tonberry> there is a tickbox that seems to do nothing
[15:10] <Tonberry> and quickly looking at the source code seems to show only hardcoded references to Battery0 as a data source
[15:28] <Tonberry> some digging showed that the feature was removed and readded recently so the new code has not made a release yet
[15:47] <uberTaco> hiya folks
[15:47] <uberTaco> I've got a weird one.
[15:48] <uberTaco> So I'm using Kubuntu pretty happily on multiple machines. On this machine in particular (my personal laptop)
[15:48] <uberTaco> qt4 fonts are...unpleasant.
[15:48] <uberTaco> Most particularly, Clementine uses "Abyssinica", size 14. Which is huge.
[15:49] <uberTaco> I know that it's using that font, because that's what it shows in qtconfig every time I launch qtconfig.
[15:49] <uberTaco> I've used qtconfig to adjust fonts, but to no effect. After some googling, I found out about ~/.config/Trolltech.conf and tried manually setting that (no dice), checking its permissions (no good either), and deleting it entirely in case it was corrupted (still no help).
[15:50] <uberTaco> I'm on 12.10, if that makes any impact.
[15:57] <BluesKaj> uberTaco, I have to ask , but have you tried setting the fonts in system settings>app appearance>fonts ? or are you using Font Management in sys settings?
[16:14] <uberTaco> BluesKaj: I've tried using the System Settings config
[16:14] <uberTaco> and it works for most KDE apps
[16:14] <uberTaco> it's just apps that are not-KDE-specific but are QT apps (like for example Clementine)
[16:16] <tsimpson> uberTaco: install qt4-qtconfig and run qtconfig, you should be able to set the default fonts for Qt apps from there
[16:20] <BluesKaj> uberTaco, i didn't run the qtconfig because it couldn't connect o X server on my system , but setting fonts in system settings as root seems to work for clewmentine , kdesudo systemsettings in the krunner
[16:44] <uberTaco> BluesKaj: I'll give it a shot
[16:44] <uberTaco> tsimpson: 10:49:52 uberTaco | I've used qtconfig to adjust fonts, but to no effect.
[16:45] <BluesKaj> uberTaco, in he meantime qtconfig finally did work here as tsimpson suggested ..looks like it will work for you
[16:45] <uberTaco> if only.
[16:45] <uberTaco> that would be easy
[16:46] <BluesKaj> then try the root system settings route
[16:46] <uberTaco> just gave that a shot too
[16:46] <uberTaco> no dice. :\
[16:47] <BluesKaj> reload clementine
[16:47] <uberTaco> okay, I realize I'm in a support channel, but I'm not an idiot. clementine is closed until I test settings each time. Change settings -> Launch Clementine -> Close Clementine GOTO 10
[16:48] <uberTaco> gonna pastebin what my ~/.config/Trolltech.conf looks like after saving changes in qtconfig and then what it looks like after launching qtconfig again
[16:49] <uberTaco> mmkay, here's after saving changes: http://paste.kde.org/609350/
[16:51] <uberTaco> hm. it's staying the same after relaunching qtconfig, but qtconfig is ignoring font settings
[16:51] <uberTaco> and qtconfig doesn't output anything to stdout or stderr either when I launch it from a terminal
[16:51] <uberTaco> so no error messages
[16:53] <kdebooth> Hello
[16:53] <kdebooth>  Can I get some assistance in cleaning up my / drive?
[16:54] <kdebooth> I have 22 mb free
[16:54] <kdebooth> not sure how that happened
[16:56] <uberTaco> kdebooth: start by uninstalling packages you don't need
[16:56] <uberTaco> kdebooth: I'd stay clear of deleting things manually on your / drive, since there could be important stuff in there
[16:57] <bjrohan> Helllppp. For a few weeks i have been recording my desktop with RecordMyDesktop, all has been fine. Today I did a recording and I do not have audio. When I open up Pulse Audio, I get  a response from my webcam  on the input devices. Where may the connection be broken, and how do I remedy it?
[16:58] <uberTaco> kdebooth: in general, "du -d1 -h" (in a terminal) will show you how much space is used by each directory
[16:58] <kdebooth> uberTaco: Suggesions for tracking down stuff I don't need
[16:58] <kdebooth> uberTaco: I use ducks
[16:59] <uberTaco> kdebooth: try this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/debian-linux-remove-unwanted-packages-and-files-to-reclaim-disk-space.html
[16:59] <kdebooth> bjrohan: As in the webcam audio works fine?
[16:59] <uberTaco> ! with caution though !
[16:59] <uberTaco> not you, ubottu.
[16:59] <uberTaco> anyhow, I guess QT just doesn't like me. :\ I've gotta leave
[16:59] <uberTaco> thansk for at least trying, BluesKaj
[17:00] <bjrohan> kdebooth: Yep. and I can play audio from my speakers. Only thing I did was apply an update this morning
[17:01] <BluesKaj> uberTaco, it's difficult to know what users are doing so sometimes suggestions that appear rude really aren't ..spend some time in here and you'll understand :)
[17:01] <kdebooth> He bounced BluesKaj
[17:01] <kdebooth> bjrohan: what was in the update?
[17:02] <BluesKaj> yeah , kdebooth , another quit while trying to reply ...it happens afrequently
[17:02] <bjrohan> kdebooth: I dunno. How do I check?
[17:02] <kdebooth> bjrohan: Apt logs?
[17:04] <bjrohan> kdebooth: looks like gnome-keyring, krdc, kppp, libpam-gnome-keyring, kde-zeroconf, skanlite, kdenetwork-filesharing
[17:04] <bjrohan> my RecordMyDesktop gtk shows audio as default. How do I know if my webcam is set as some kind of default
[17:07] <kdebooth> lookin pulseaudio settings
[17:08] <BluesKaj> bjrohan, also alsamixer mic input settings
[17:09] <bjrohan> I found a solution in Google. Change audio from default to pulse. Not sure why it was working as default for weeks, and now I have to change it
[17:10] <kdebooth> !info deborphan
[17:23] <kdebooth> Hmm
[17:23] <kdebooth> I'm on raring for some reason
[17:43] <BluesKaj> kdebooth, did you run sudo do-release-upgrade -d by any chance ? :)
[17:45] <kdebooth> BluesKaj: looks like I did and cancelled it
[17:45] <kdebooth> I don't think apt-get remove is working
[17:47] <kdebooth> Ok I have 16k of space left now
[17:54] <kdebooth> everytime I delete something i have less space
[17:54] <kdebooth> I have 12k now
[17:54] <kdebooth> I can't tab complete anymore
[17:57] <kdebooth> going to try shutting down the X server
[17:58] <Torch> kdebooth: if you have your home for your user on the same file system as the root file system you'll at some point only be able to login as root
[17:58] <Torch> kdebooth: make sure you know what you're going to do then ;-)
[17:59] <Torch> kdebooth: probably a good idea to have a live CD or memory drive ready
[18:02] <kdebooth> Torch: Different partitions. The ~ partition has 20GB free
[18:03] <kdebooth> Hooray i have 40K free now on /
[18:03] <Torch> ouch....
[18:03] <kdebooth> I can tab complete again :)
[18:03] <Torch> kdebooth: question is what fills up the root partition then
[18:03] <kdebooth> I know I can't find it whatever it is
[18:03] <kdebooth> ate like 7GB and I can't figure out where
[18:03] <kdebooth> and apt-get doesn't work so I can't remove packages
[18:04] <Torch> kdebooth: you could try manually cleaning out /var/cache/apt/archives
[18:04] <Torch> kdebooth: that's just the cache, not the packages, of course
[18:04] <kdebooth> I did already
[18:05] <Torch> installing iotop is not an option if we can't install....
[18:06] <kdebooth> yep
[18:07] <Torch> how bad is /tmp filled up?
[18:07] <Torch> the tab complete thing is fishy, that shouldn't happen when logged in with a regular user
[18:08] <kdebooth> i currently don't have enough space to have a package and it's installed files
[18:08] <kdebooth> Torch: not sure
[18:08] <Torch> what does du -hs /tmp say?
[18:08] <kdebooth> most stuff in /tmp/ I dont' have access to
[18:09] <Torch> as root ;-)
[18:09] <kdebooth> 32k
[18:09] <Torch> ok, that's not it then ;-)
[18:09] <Torch> what about /var/tmp ?
[18:09] <kdebooth> yeah I kinda suspected
[18:10] <kdebooth> 482
[18:10] <kdebooth> Thats significant
[18:10] <Torch> meg?
[18:10] <kdebooth> Thats iptop space
[18:11] <kdebooth> Meg
[18:12] <Torch> i have about the same here so it's not unusual
[18:12] <Torch> also, if you're missing 7 GiB, half a MiB won't save you in the long run
[18:12] <Torch> no, wait, confused.... half a GiB
[18:12] <kdebooth> +Whoopps
[18:13] <kdebooth> almost confused du with dd :)
[18:13] <Torch> ouch ;-)
[18:13] <Torch> though the syntax is different enough to notice
[18:13] <kdebooth> Yeah
[18:13] <kdebooth> dd is obtuse on purpose
[18:14] <kdebooth> Ok so I have KDE shutdown
[18:15] <kdebooth> Can I blow away the kdecache ?
[18:15] <Torch> yes
[18:15] <kdebooth> It should just rebuild it on login right?
[18:15] <Torch> yes, no worries
[18:16] <Torch> you could also symlink /var/tmp to somewhere else, but i wouldn't recommend doing things like that until you get really desperate
[18:16] <kdebooth> ok so I just deleted it and now I have 18 M free
[18:17] <Torch> after restarting KDE?
[18:17] <kdebooth> No
[18:17] <kdebooth> after rm -rf && df -h
[18:17] <Torch> hmm
[18:18] <kdebooth> like before I'd remove something and I'd have less space
[18:18] <Torch> you did try rebooting the machine at some point?
[18:18] <kdebooth> I started out with 252 MB and removing stuff dropped me down to 16k
[18:18] <kdebooth> Yes
[18:18] <kdebooth> this is post reboot
[18:19] <kdebooth> LIke I said somethign is filling it up but I can't find where
[18:19] <kdebooth> at least I have install space now
[18:19] <kdebooth>  lets see if apt-get remove works again
[18:20] <kdebooth> Nope
[18:20] <Torch> what's it say?
[18:20] <kdebooth> It just drops back to the command line instantly
[18:21] <kdebooth> I ran deborphan since /usr/lib is the second biggest dir
[18:21] <kdebooth> after /usr/share/games
[18:21] <kdebooth> It gives me a list of libraries
[18:21] <Torch> what's in /usr/share/games? i don't have it.
[18:22] <kdebooth>  trying to uninstall them doesn't give any feedback it just drops it back to the command line. Running deborphan again gives the same list
[18:22] <kdebooth> Games I would suppose
[18:22] <kdebooth>  Warzone
[18:22] <Torch> did you install any?
[18:22] <kdebooth> which ironically is one of the reasons I upgraded to 12.10 which kicked off this whole thing
[18:23] <dougl> My Kubuntu is being retarded... kmail is sending emails with a reply address of doug@ubuntu - this is not my email address, how/where do I correct this 12.10 feature?
[18:23] <Torch> wouldn't it make sense to remove those games temporarily?
[18:23]  * dougl thinks 12.10 is not ready for prime time.
[18:23] <Torch> dougl: set up your account in kmail, i guess
[18:23] <kdebooth> I could but I can't apt-get remove
[18:23] <Torch> dougl: it's using your login information
[18:24] <kdebooth> and so far doing that results in my having less space when it actually removes rather than more
[18:24] <Torch> kdebooth: but you _can_ move the games directory somewhere else for the time being
[18:24] <kdebooth> Torch: Hmm should
[18:24] <Torch> kdebooth: and move it back once the situation improves
[18:25] <dougl> Torch, that was my guess too - where should I guess next?
[18:25] <kdebooth> runing sudo apt-get update right now
[18:25] <Torch> dougl: i don't understand the question?
[18:26] <kdebooth> Torch: I think he means he checked that already
[18:26] <Torch> dougl: in that case check again ;-)
[18:27] <Torch> dougl: make sure there's only one account and that it's being used for sending mail
[18:27] <kdebooth> 40M
[18:28] <Torch> you might think about installion iotop again, but it will pull in half of python, i think, so 40 MiB might not suffice
[18:28] <kdebooth> moving the games dir
[18:28] <kdebooth> Torch: For a command line program?
[18:28] <Torch> I've got to run errands now, good luck, maybe see you later
[18:29] <Torch> kdebooth: for a complete language including a monster of a framework
[18:29] <dougl> Torch, there is only one outgoing account adn I config'd use custom sender address to my correct e-mail address and it made no difference... outgoing email indicate return e-mail address is doug@ubuntu - how/where do I configure the correct email address?
[18:29] <kdebooth> Whoohoo! Moved 500 Megs of dir and got 200 Megs free
[18:29] <kdebooth> dougl: Oh return e-mail
[18:29] <kdebooth> I set that up somewhere.. I forget where now though
[18:30] <kdebooth> and I have no X server so I can't check
[18:30] <kdebooth> crap it's dropped to 122 Megs now
[18:31] <kdebooth> Im going to uninstall the Xserver and all qt and gtk libs
[18:32] <kdebooth> lets see if it gives me any space
[18:34] <kdebooth> dougl: I would guess it's either in Identity or sending account
[18:34] <dougl> thanks guys I stumbled across it - appreciate the help.
[18:38] <kdebooth> dougl: wher was it?
[18:38] <kdebooth> Seriously? I have 500 Meg free after uninstalling near everything
[18:39] <dougl> kdebooth, in identity under the general tab.
[18:40] <dougl> my home directory is from a 10.10 install that I keep migrating to my new ubuntu installs and some stuff does not work quite rite
[18:42] <kdebooth> dougl: Yeah Identity would have been my first guesss
[18:45] <dougl> kdebooth, I never guess right the first time...  Thanks again for the help :)
[18:50] <kdebooth> dougl: :) just means you'll find the right solution faster than us sometimes
[19:32] <kdebooth> Ok I just counted all my files and there is 5.5 GB of files on a 15 GB partition with 800 megs left free
[19:35] <Tm_T> kdebooth: how did you count?
[19:48] <ptomblin> There are a bunch of reasons for that - 1. files in directories you don't have permission to read, 2. files that have been deleted but some process still have them open, 3. lots of small files - the reported size may be a few bytes, but it really takes up a full block.
[19:56] <kdebooth> Tm_T: du
[19:56] <kdebooth> Tm_T: df has 800 megs free
[19:57] <kdebooth> ptomblin: I was root. I rebooted. Thats a lot of files
[19:58] <ptomblin> Ok, post your df and 'du | sort -n'
[19:58] <ptomblin> (Actually, I think floodbot will get upset unless you use a pastebin instead of posting them)
[20:08] <sgdx> Just installed Kubuntu 12.10 onto /dev/sda
[20:08] <sgdx> have 3 other sata disks, one of which is /dev/sdd1
[20:09] <sgdx> I'd like to mount /dev/sdd1 and use it
[20:09] <sgdx> but created partition using KDE partition editor that came with 12.10
[20:09] <sgdx> it mounts so only root users can write and use it
[20:10] <sgdx> tried udisks --mount /dev/sdd1 but it mounts same so only root users can write
[20:10] <sgdx> what the heck am I missing here? Google has not been all that friendly
[20:13] <kdebooth> ptomblin: What do you want the sort -n on ?
[20:13] <ptomblin> 'du | sort -n'
[20:14] <kdebooth> ptomblin: yes but on / ?
[20:14] <ptomblin> On the partition that you think is wrongly full.
[20:14] <kdebooth> ptomblin: Don't want a du -x ?
[20:14] <ptomblin> If the partition has other partitions mounted below it, then sure.
[20:15] <kdebooth> ok
[20:27] <dougl> I have a samba shared printer connected to my windows machine and when I  print to it from 12.10 kubuntu asks me for a password... printer does not require password so I just click ok and the print job prints - How do I stop kubuntu from asking for a user and password for a  printer that does not require it?
[20:28] <kdebooth> sgdx: Do you have it mounted in fstab
[20:35] <kdebooth> ptomblin: I'm coming this is taking a while
[20:37] <kdebooth> ptomblin: do you mind if I split it into two pastes?
[20:37] <ptomblin> Fine by me.
[20:37] <kdebooth> ok
[20:38] <kdebooth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1366005/
[20:38] <kdebooth> That's the first part let me give you the full output for the second one
[20:42] <kdebooth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1366017/
[20:42] <kdebooth> ptomblin: there you go
[20:44] <kdebooth> ptomblin: the first 16,000 or so files are all 0 size though they shouldn't be
[20:44] <ptomblin> you didn't get any permission errors?
[20:45] <kdebooth> Did it as root
[20:45] <kdebooth> all the commands there are done as root
[20:46] <ptomblin> ok, that's very odd
[20:46] <kdebooth> du -x / | sort -n | pastebinit
[20:46] <kdebooth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1366017/
[20:47] <kdebooth> is the output from the terminal
[20:47] <kdebooth>  Course this machine has been doing strange things like apt-get returning as if it has done something when in fact nothing has been done
[20:47] <kdebooth> a lot of those are from linux-headers
[20:47] <kdebooth> Wonder if I can remove those
[20:48] <ptomblin> YEah, on my system, links like /etc/apt/preferences.d have some small space.
[20:49] <kdebooth> The Dirs should be 4
[20:49] <kdebooth> the hardlinks should be 8
[20:50] <ptomblin> And there's nothing in /var/log?  Something should be shouting at you, either on the stderr or in /var/log/kern.log or /var/log/syslog
[21:00] <kdebooth> not seeing anything jumping out at me
[21:04] <ptomblin> weird.  Have you tried fscking the disk?
[21:05] <ptomblin> "touch /forcefsck" and then reboot.
[21:06] <ptomblin> or just use "shutdown -rF now"
[21:16] <kdebooth> ptomblin: rebooting
[21:28] <kdebooth> It's mounting network filesystems
[21:28] <kdebooth>  I've never setup any network filesystems
[21:37] <kdebooth> yay for bash regex expansion :)
[21:39] <kdebooth> ptomblin: so whats going on?
[21:40] <kdebooth> I'm removing the  linux headers files and it's about a gig of space though it's reading them as 0
[21:40] <ptomblin> With me, or with you?
[21:40] <kdebooth> du reads them as 0
[21:40] <ptomblin> After fsck it's still reading as 0?
[21:40] <kdebooth> removiing them actually frees up space
[21:41] <ptomblin> what does "ls -l" tell you then?
[21:41] <ptomblin> Are the ones that du says are zero length showing as zero length with ls?
[21:48] <kdebooth> yes they are
[21:49] <ptomblin> I'm amazed fsck didn't fix that.  Ok, at this point I'd suggest using smartctl to see if the disk is completely dying, and if not, reformat and reinstall.
[21:49] <ptomblin> Sorry, I wish I could suggest more, but it sounds like the file system is complete corrupt.
[21:51] <ptomblin> ^complete^completely^
[21:52] <ptomblin> I've got to go feed my dogs, so I'm going AFK.  Good luck.
[21:53] <kdebooth> Ok
[21:53] <kdebooth> Running smartctl
[22:07] <kdebooth> might as well start putting together a USB boot drive :)
[23:14] <mint_> hello
[23:14] <TheLordOfTime> olleh
[23:20] <mint_> HARO
[23:22] <artaeun> hi to all
[23:22] <artaeun> would somebody mind giving me a hand with a little problem i've got with booting up kubuntu?
[23:24] <artaeun> anybody?
[23:29] <artaeun> would somebody mind giving me a hand with a little problem i've got with booting up kubuntu?
[23:33] <favelier_> CC
[23:34] <artaeun> would somebody mind giving me a hand with a little problem i've got with booting up kubuntu?
[23:39] <Tygart> artaeun: Please ask your question
[23:39] <Tygart> someone will try and get to it.
[23:41] <artaeun> startx won't start correctly. "no screens detected error". I have an IntelGMA 3600 GPU
[23:41] <artaeun> Tygart: thank you
[23:41] <Tygart> artaeun: :-)
[23:58] <xixor> howdy


[22:34] <pragmaticenigma> OreoCollas, that should read what follows the UUID=xxxx is "/media/storage ext4 default 0 2" i believe... this is how I mount my second drive in my machine
[22:34] <OreoCollas> I just found that... I was looking up the tutorial on my phone and the rest of the line was off screen...  XD
[22:34] <JackStraw> how come they dont fork compiz to the latest ubuntu, makes me sad and angry.
[22:35] <JackStraw> so sad
[22:35] <Jordan_U> JackStraw: Since it's not a support question, such discussion is better for #ubuntu-offtopic.
[22:35] <JackStraw> who me?
[22:35] <pragmaticenigma> OreoCollas, it happens... be default Linux will mount readonly until something else tells it what to do. it's a safety feature
[22:35] <JackStraw> oh ok
[22:35] <JackStraw> just thoght i wold mention it,
[22:36] <JackStraw> u
[22:38] <pragmaticenigma> JackStraw, We all get passionate about our favorite software. please free to chat with us in /join #ubuntu-offtopic to talk more about compiz. maybe someone will have a suggestion on an alternative you can try and see if you like better, or a way to make the default compositor feel more like what compiz did for you
[22:42] <OreoCollas> pragmaticenigma: I made the changes and I'm doing another reboot.
[22:43] <bindi> what does the "rescue a broken system" boot menu option do on a minimal disc?
[22:43] <bindi> is that suitable for reinstalling grub?
[22:45] <bindi> it asks for a device to use as a root file system. should i choose none and run grub-install /dev/sda?
[22:46] <pragmaticenigma> bindi, yes, it can be used to recover issues with grub, do you know which version of grub you had?
[22:46] <bindi> dunno, 16.04 installation disc
[22:46] <bindi> didnt reboot after that
[22:46] <bindi> or should I mount /dev/sda (it's mounted as /target right?) and chroot /target and then install-grub
[22:46] <pragmaticenigma> bindi, so fresh install using the 16.04 disk?
[22:46] <xinobi> I'm using wkhtmltopdf on both my servers dev/production and it's working without a problem on my dev server, I've followed the same steps regarding installation however I can't render assets css files images etc anyone knows what might be possible implications ?
[22:46] <bindi> yes
[22:47] <OreoCollas> pragmaticenigma: Still read only for all users but root
[22:48] <pragmaticenigma> OreoCollas, I'm not sure on that one then...
[22:48] <pragmaticenigma> bindi, this should have what you need https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[22:51] <Bashing-om> OreoCollas: A 'mkdir' as sudo ... root owns the directory ..one then changes the ownership with the chown command .
[22:52] <pragmaticenigma> OreoCollas, try making a directory with sudo, then chown the new folder to your user
[22:53] <pragmaticenigma> OreoCollas, sudo mkdir /media/storage/my_directory && sudo chown OreoCollas:OreoCollas /media/storage/my_directory
[22:57] <nexace> how does one make bash_history unlimited and append commands immediately?
[22:58] <pragmaticenigma> nexace, you cannot make it unlimited, but you can change the size
[22:58] <pragmaticenigma> nexace, https://askubuntu.com/a/307568
[22:59] <OreoCollas> pragmaticenigma: I found a way to change the perms with gksu nautilus
[22:59] <leftyfb> nexace: it's kinda rude asking the same question in multiple channels
[22:59] <pragmaticenigma> nexace, and to append immediate: https://askubuntu.com/a/67306
[23:00] <pragmaticenigma> OreoCollas, if you change the perms of /media/storage they may not stick after reboot
[23:00] <nexace> leftyfb: i
[23:00] <nexace> leftyfb: what channels other than this one?
[23:00] <pragmaticenigma> OreoCollas, you will want to create a folder your user can access instead
[23:01] <leftyfb> * nexace<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
 how do you instantly append .bash_history with commands as they happen? seems like previous way of using “export PROMPT_COMMAND=‘history -a’” is not valid
[23:01] <leftyfb> from #ubuntu on EFnet
[23:01] <nexace> oh you mean another network
[23:01] <nexace> you know what else is rude
[23:01] <OreoCollas> pragmaticenigma: Let me try a quick reboot and see what happens. I changed the owner to Oreo so I feel like that should stick.
[23:01] <nexace> caring too much
[23:01] <pragmaticenigma> !guidelines | nexace
[23:02] <nexace> i can say with certainty that i didnt violate the guidelines by speaking on another network
[23:05] <nexace> pragmaticenigma: unlimited is possible by using a negative value
[23:05] <nexace> thank you
[23:09] <OreoCollas> pragmaticenigma: The changes seem to stick no problem. I apreciate you trying to help any ways. It would have taken me ages to figure out why I couldn't get it to mount. If you would like to see what I did just check this out. It was quite easy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtvt2MjeCeg
[23:51] <rud0lf> i want to make service to boot another pc from lan
[23:51] <rud0lf> what codeword i need to use to google?
[23:51] <leftyfb> rud0lf: wakeonlan
[23:52] <rud0lf> thank you


[04:52] <dyingjohnnie> man... ubuntu studio is fucking awesome
[04:53] <holstein> dyingjohnnie: thanks!. glad you enjoy.. do try and keep the language clean in the channel
[04:53] <dyingjohnnie> whoops
[04:53] <dyingjohnnie> sorry guys.
[04:53] <holstein> dyingjohnnie: no worries :)
[04:53] <dyingjohnnie> any of you guys use the synth or drum tools offered by US?
[04:54] <holstein> dyingjohnnie: i have
[04:54] <holstein> dyingjohnnie: you can also try #opensourcemusicians
[04:54] <dyingjohnnie> i'm looking for some completed audio to listen to
[04:54] <dyingjohnnie> oh nice
[04:54] <holstein> here are the issues.. as i see them
[04:54] <holstein> "good" is a matter of opinion
[04:55] <holstein> they really arent "offered by ubuntustudio" necessariy.. they are just in the main repos, and are basically available to any distro
[04:55] <holstein> hydrogen is the big drum synth folks use
[04:55] <holstein> there are many software synth options
[04:55] <dyingjohnnie> well yeah
[04:55] <dyingjohnnie> that's not really what i meant
[04:56] <dyingjohnnie> i've NEVER used linux as a DAW
[04:56] <holstein> http://pneuman.bandcamp.com/
[04:56] <dyingjohnnie> and now it seems feasible
[04:56] <holstein> that is a friends work
[04:57] <holstein> well, its always been pretty do-able.. assuming you find what you are looking for, and dont mind learning the tools
[04:57] <dyingjohnnie> well...
[04:57] <dyingjohnnie> not exactly
[04:57] <dyingjohnnie> the hardware was always the issue
[04:57] <holstein> dyingjohnnie: are we talking about hardare?
[04:57] <holstein> hardware?
[04:57] <holstein> dyingjohnnie: im not
[04:57] <dyingjohnnie> audio interface compatibility at least in my experience used to be a motherduck to work with
[04:57] <holstein> dyingjohnnie: doesnt matter.. ubuntu/linux is up to the task
[04:58] <dyingjohnnie> oh definitely
[04:58] <dyingjohnnie> my interface worked out of the box. I almost peed my pantaloons
[04:58] <holstein> dyingjohnnie: *anyone* is always welcomd and encouraged to create and support what they like for whatever OS. including this one
[04:58] <holstein> dyingjohnnie: my presonus firepod works out of the box
[04:58] <holstein> dyingjohnnie: RME typically provides support
[04:58] <dyingjohnnie> RME?
[04:59] <holstein> but, that support is typically not the responsibility of the OS, anyway
[04:59] <dyingjohnnie> oh snap.. i have restart. the install is almost done here. I'll bbiab to continue this.
[04:59] <dyingjohnnie> thank you very much
[04:59] <holstein> dyingjohnnie: enjoy.. im off soon
[10:39] <InsertUser> Hi, I'd like to remove the Unity bar at the bottom but I can't figure out how
[10:49] <zequence> InsertUser: The Unity bar?
[10:50] <InsertUser> #the one that shows when you put the cursor to the bottom
[10:50] <zequence> You seemed to have fixed your AMD driver issues? When you were here asking before, you always quit before anyone could answer
[10:50] <zequence> It's just a panel, like the one at the top
[10:50] <InsertUser> actually no
[10:50] <zequence> Right click on the panel, and choose panel settings
[10:50] <InsertUser> my computer conked out before anyone culd answer
[10:51] <InsertUser> could*
[10:51] <InsertUser> also, what do I do from settings
[10:52] <zequence> I'm sure you'll figure it out
[10:52] <zequence> I don't use XFCE myself, so..
[10:54] <InsertUser> nope I cant figure out how to find it
[10:54] <InsertUser> remove*
[10:54] <zequence> There are two panels. You can choose to remove one
[10:54] <zequence> It's all there, in the panel settings
[10:54] <InsertUser> oh got it
[10:54] <InsertUser> you just select panel 1 and click the minus
[10:57] <InsertUser> anyway, can someone tell me how to install the AMD drivers without it messing up the resolution
[10:57] <InsertUser> AMD catalyst
[11:05] <InsertUser> Ok, now when I open Ubuntu Software Center it just exits
[11:07] <zequence> InsertUser: The only file I know of to fix resolutions is /etc/X11/xorg.conf, which does not exist by default. When setting up resolution settings with nvidia-settings, and saving, it will create that file
[11:08] <zequence> I'm assuming it's the same with Catalyst
[11:08] <InsertUser> it is
[11:08] <zequence> You'll need to run it as root, in order to make changes permanent
[11:08] <InsertUser> but I've edited that and When I re-booted it just reset the file
[11:08] <zequence> It can't reset
[11:09] <zequence> Any changes to that file are permanent
[11:09] <InsertUser> so, do I install the driver, edit the file, then reboot?
[11:09] <zequence> Try using Catalyst. That's should be the easiest
[11:09] <InsertUser> yeah I'm using the catalyst driver
[11:10] <zequence> But, you'll need root access to save to file
[11:10] <InsertUser> ik
[11:10] <InsertUser> gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:10] <zequence> I mean, Catalyst, the control center
[11:10] <InsertUser> ok
[11:10] <zequence> Not, fglrx, the driver
[11:10] <InsertUser> but you cant access that untill you reboot
[11:10] <zequence> Sure you can
[11:10] <InsertUser> i tried it
[11:10] <zequence> The driver won't be loaded, until you reboot
[11:10] <InsertUser> sudo amdccc
[11:11] <zequence> But, the files are all there
[11:11] <InsertUser> it came up with an error
[11:11] <zequence> Ah, right
[11:11] <zequence> you're right
[11:11] <zequence> It will error if the driver is not loaded
[11:11] <zequence> Well, edit the file by hand then
[11:11] <InsertUser> so do I just edit the file?
[11:11] <InsertUser> ok
[11:14] <InsertUser> If it doesn't work I'll press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and do sudo amdconfig --uninstall=force
[11:15] <InsertUser> ok...
[11:15] <InsertUser> what am I looking at in this file?
[11:15] <InsertUser> my monitor is 1024x768x60
[11:15] <InsertUser> I dont know what line to change
[11:17] <InsertUser> zequence: what am I looking for to edit?
[11:18] <InsertUser> zequence?
[11:22] <InsertUser> This forum has a line that says "Modes: "1024x769"": http://askubuntu.com/questions/74808/how-do-i-force-a-resolution-of-1024x768
[11:22] <InsertUser> do I add that line?
[11:24] <InsertUser> ok gonna reboot now
[11:30] <InsertUser> Nope that didn't work
[11:33] <InsertUser> I think I'll ask AMD Support
[12:06] <neofita-estremo> ciao a tutti
[14:33] <InsertUser> Hi, what's the keyboard shortcut for  lowering the screen resolution?
[15:04] <InsertUser> What's the keyboard shortcut for  lowering the screen resolution?
[17:31] <InsertUser> How do I format a USB?
[17:32] <InsertUser> wait I found a thing in Software Center, bye


[03:49] <bluesabre> that should be a pretty A-OK release, http://git.xfce.org/xfce/exo/commit/?id=d05b947844d4e0b29c9739b80f2ca0bcbf758a15 :)
[03:49] <bluesabre> I might tackle it tomorrow morning, or Sunday night
[03:49] <bluesabre> but soooooooooon
[03:51] <bluesabre> ochosi: is that icon still an issue? I grabbed an old screenshot because I was lazy :)
[03:51] <micahg> ooh
[03:52] <bluesabre> gotta run for now, bbl
[03:52] <micahg> good night
[07:26] <ochosi> bluesabre: oh, i guess then it might not be a problem :) good motivation for me to run a few tests with it though ;)
[10:52] <bluesabre> elfy: like ochosi said, just not very many updates at this time :)
[10:52] <elfy> yep :)
[10:53] <bluesabre> though, if you're bored, I can go ahead and upload a new greeter and greeter-settings to wily repos this morning
[10:53] <elfy> hah
[10:53] <elfy> if you want to - and you need things looked at - as always just ask :)
[10:54] <bluesabre> of course :)
[10:56] <astraljava> "Logan | I AM NOT AN OPEN PROXY" -- Yeah, you just keep telling that to yourself, buddy.
[10:58] <ochosi> bluesabre: feel free to copy them over to 15.04 as well
[10:58] <ochosi> (haven't had time to set up a wily box yet)
[10:58] <bluesabre> ochosi: I'll update the stable PPA sometime... won't be home again this weekend after the next 30 minutes
[10:59] <ochosi> oh ok
[10:59] <ochosi> well in that case have a fun weekend! :)
[11:01] <lderan> i'll be away this weekend as well :P
[11:02] <bluesabre> actually, let's not speed package that package
[11:03] <bluesabre> Unit193: when you get back, would you like to do some package update work?
[11:04] <bluesabre> now that the greeter supports multiple configuration directories, debian has moved in that direction and we should likely do the same with the ubuntu and xubuntu configs
[11:04] <bluesabre> since you requested that feature, you're the expert ;)
[11:31] <Unit193> bluesabre: Howdy.
[11:32] <Unit193> And, that means migration work. :(
[11:44]  * bluesabre wishes Unit193 luck
[11:44] <elfy> so will I
[11:45] <bluesabre> technically, we might not have to migrate since the first config it checks is the old location
[11:45]  * bluesabre shrugs
[11:47] <elfy> so will I
[11:47] <elfy> :)
[11:48] <bluesabre> :P
[11:52] <elfy> bluesabre: any mouse cursor size bugs you know about?
[11:52] <elfy> eg - if you've seen one mentioned - no need to dig
[11:55] <bluesabre> elfy: haven't heard of any
[11:55] <elfy> mmk
[11:55] <elfy> seems some oddities in 14.04
[11:55] <bluesabre> oh fun
[11:56] <elfy> indeed
[11:56] <bluesabre> elfy: do you have an updated wily image? was wondering if whisker menu has the xubuntu icon or the whisker icon currently
[11:57] <bluesabre> saw something odd last week, but lost track of time :)
[11:57] <elfy> I'm all up to date - with ppa's and everything here
[11:57] <bluesabre> cool
[11:57] <elfy> looks like Xubuntu icon to me
[11:58] <elfy> I'll look at the daily
[11:58] <bluesabre> alrighty, I noticed it in the guest account, just in case
[11:58] <elfy> okey doke - I'll check there
[11:58] <bluesabre> thanks
[11:59] <bluesabre> heading out now... if you find anything off, ochosi can fix it
[11:59] <bluesabre> >:D
[12:00] <elfy> ha ha
[12:00] <elfy> have a good weekend
[12:00] <bluesabre> you too
[12:49] <elfy> ochosi bluesabre - daily appears to have whisker icon instead of Xubuntu one ...
[12:59] <elfy> 14.04 with cursor size change ... http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2ag8fhj&s=8#.VV8oGbwtj0o
[13:11] <lderan> huge mode
[13:11] <knome> gtk3 acting up?
[13:20] <brainwash> is that a new bug in 14.04?
[13:28] <ochosi> yeah, i've never touched the cursor size myself, maybe that never worked
[13:29] <ochosi> oh, hm, seems to work just fine here
[13:29] <ochosi> with 15.04
[13:29] <ochosi> elfy: is anything else off in whiskermenu, apart from the icon?
[13:30] <elfy> lderan: not the size - the fact the size isn't constant - changes small -> large
[13:30] <elfy> and yea seems fine in vivid/wily
[13:30] <lderan> bizarre
[13:30] <elfy> ochosi: seems to just be the panel icon
[13:32] <elfy> brainwash: not sure - seems not if you can believe people ...
[13:32] <elfy> forum thread
[13:52] <micahg> elfy: I noticed the images are oversized now, I'll poke at that next week
[13:54] <elfy> micahg: possibly libreoffice
[13:54] <ochosi> what size are we at now?
[13:55] <micahg> 18M over I think
[13:55] <elfy> 1.1 GB (1,058,013,184 bytes)
[13:56] <micahg> hrm, says only 1.5M over
[13:56] <micahg> this is i386
[13:56] <micahg> that's over
[13:56] <micahg> what is the size set at?  I thought it was supposed to be 1GB
[13:57] <elfy> not sure now that +LO/-gimp
[13:58] <micahg> well, what do we want it at :)
[13:58] <micahg> if we want 1GB, I'll make it happen
[13:58] <elfy> micahg: I'm not sure about that either ;)
[14:16] <ochosi> what parts of LO do we include atm?
[14:18] <micahg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11285931/
[14:19] <ochosi> right, that looks pretty ok to me
[14:22] <ochosi> micahg: i think trying to stay below 1GB only makes sense if it doesn't mean too much (or constant) effort
[14:23] <micahg> ok, I'll see next week what the story is and let you know, it should just be a one time push if it's possible
[14:23] <ochosi> we've had that fight against windmills in the past, i'm ok with being a bit more relaxed about it
[14:23] <ochosi> ok, that's ideal