[04:26] <IdleOne> mobasher: apt-cache search
[04:26] <Blue1> tensorpudding: so how do I fix it?
[04:27] <mobasher> IdleOne=}} thank u sir :)
[04:27] <tensorpudding> Blue1: use /bin/sh instead? or call it using bash
[04:27] <hmw> uLinux: no. Extended is that "pointer" to the "additional partition table". It _contains_ logical partitions. The 4 primary partitions are stored in the partition table of the MBR (Master Boot Record, that is the very first sector of your disk, which can only hold 4 "primary" partitions). An extended partition is stored somewhere in your disk and has also a table, but that can contain more. So logical is IN an extended.
[04:27] <Blue1> tensorpudding: okay I can try that.
[04:27] <JoeSomebody> hi, in lucid, is there a way to move the min, max and close buttons back to the top right corner?
[04:27] <mwh05> hey guys, setting up exim4 on 10.04 to send mail from some local applications. I want it to authenticate through a user account so I followed this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Exim4#SMTP Authentication but it seems to allow emails from localhost with bad credentials, so not verifying.
[04:28] <TheoryDesigns> hello im running ubuntu studio 10.04 how do i restart x-server to load the video driver in konsole???
[04:28] <hmw> uLinux: you can see that on the screen shot you sent me earlier - all partitions with numbers sda5 or higher are IN the extended sda2.
[04:28] <tensorpudding> Blue1: also i think maybe there shouldn't be a space between &> and the log, but I'm not sure
[04:29] <hmw> http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8103/selection001.png - the logical partitions are drawn indented to indicate the situation.
[04:29] <mdel> JoeSomebody: just change to a different theme
[04:29] <mdel> JoeSomebody: I suggest trying one from the Bisigi project
[04:29] <mdel> I like wildshine, myself
[04:29] <Blue1> tensorpudding: I can change that too
[04:30] <TheoryDesigns> how do i restart x-server in konsole??
[04:30] <hmw> TheoryDesigns: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:30] <juk> Kevin`, hmw: i wrote script `pisof` which greps $1 of ps -e | awk $1 and $4 to stderr, coz pidof sometimes not working properly
[04:30] <JoeSomebody> ok thanks
[04:31] <uLinux> hmw: so swap and /home are logical
[04:31] <uLinux> is primary
[04:31] <hmw> uLinux:  in that screenshot, yes.
[04:31] <uLinux> and thats how i should install?
[04:31] <at05gt> is there a way to change the size of a partition if it still has files in it? or do i need to format and then repartition?
[04:32] <hmw> uLinux: my point is, that you should not consume all 4 primaries for data, in case you want to add more partitions later. so basically - yes.
[04:32] <Kevin`> at05gt: gparted can do that in many cases. for expanding you can use even less complex tools in many cases.
[04:32] <hmw> at05gt: you can resize with data. of course, the disk must not be in use, so you need a live cd probably.
[04:32] <user_>  Hey, I've been getting this error message at boot-up: "Problem with configuration server. Usr/lib/libconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256     . It blanks out completely when I try to log in. Could someone please help me out? Cheers
[04:33] <Kevin`> hmw: you can expand while in use
[04:33] <uLinux> eject: unable to find or open device for: `cdrom'  but if I do eject cdrom1 it works
[04:33] <hmw> Kevin`: not while they are mounted
[04:33] <Kevin`> hmw: try it
[04:33] <at05gt> well heres the specific issue, i cant get wine to run properly, so im gonna partition off 100 gigs of my large drive and reinstall windows for the specific purpose of playing my windows based games, but the drive has 1 large partition on it so id need to resize that part and then make a new part
[04:33] <mwh05> Refined question. I'm running exim4 with saslauthd and I can send emails from a localhost application without giving it credentials. What gives?
[04:34] <at05gt> can gparted do that?
[04:34] <root_ninja> doe wireless cards with the RTL8187L chip require installation of a modified driver for packet injection  and to view power levels? the aircrack-ng wiki says it does however it appears to be outdated.
[04:34] <hmw> at05gt: yes
[04:34] <at05gt> ok thank you
[04:34] <TheoryDesigns> hey
[04:34] <TheoryDesigns> thank you
[04:34] <git__> anyone here work with sheepdog?
[04:34] <TheoryDesigns> but it that didnt load the x-server driver
[04:34] <TheoryDesigns> it just restarted the kde desktop
[04:34] <TheoryDesigns> how do i load a x-driver
[04:34] <TheoryDesigns> to config
[04:35] <frobisher> JoeSomebody:Yes there is
[04:35] <TheoryDesigns> how do i load a x-server driver to config with x-server config??
[04:35] <JoeSomebody> ?
[04:35] <hmw> at05gt: check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 - you will have to restore grub after windows install
[04:35] <Kevin`> hmw: http://pastebin.com/GexMrbez
[04:36] <hmw> Kevin`: i think with LVM it is a different story
[04:37] <Kevin`> hmw: you can do it with other types of storage too, provided you can get it to become resized
[04:37] <Blue1> tensorpudding: no joy
[04:37] <hmw> Kevin`: i am not using LVM, so i cant resize while mounted
[04:37] <at05gt> hmw: the linux install is on a different drive from windows
[04:37] <Kevin`> i'd demonstrate with my desktop here (not using lvm) but then i'd have wasted space
[04:37] <at05gt> hmw: i did that on purpose
[04:37] <frobisher> gcontro-2--type string --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout "menu:maximize,minimize
[04:37] <hmw> Kevin`:  i just checked gparted, "resize" is grayed out while mounted
[04:38] <hmw> at05gt: i am not sure, windows might still kill grub, but perhaps i am mistaken in this case.
[04:38] <uLinux> hmw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhnLk3gviWY at 3.10
[04:38] <at05gt> hmw: your guess is as good as mine lol
[04:38] <JoeSomebody> frobisher is it easy? got a link? :)
[04:38] <Kevin`> hmw: probably because of the type of partition. you COULD resize it in the partition table, reboot, then resize the filesystem (while it's in use) though
[04:38] <juk> Kevin`, hmw: I whant use script to kill `pisof foo` and along with pid I whant it to print filenames in background, how would I do it???
[04:39] <hmw> Kevin`: wow...!?
[04:39] <frobisher> IT starts gcontrol ,not gcontro
[04:39] <Kevin`> hmw: ?
[04:39] <hmw> i wasnt aware of this possibility. i always thought, it cant be done...
[04:39] <frobisher> Yes <I found it in ask.
[04:39] <hmw> otoh, resizing a live file system sounds like a bad idea to me.
[04:39] <Beagle6> hello i'm having trouble getting ubuntu on beagle. can anyone help?
[04:39] <Kevin`> hmw: anyway, just serves to indicate use lvm cuz it's awesome ;)
[04:40] <hmw> indeed. another thing, i need to check out. i am a lazy programmer.
[04:40] <at05gt> so i should resize a partiton that has files on it?
[04:40] <at05gt> shouldnt*
[04:41] <hmw> at05gt: no, we were talking about something else: resizing, while the files are "being used" so to say.
[04:41] <frobisher> I just typyed in :how do you change the buttons from left to right in Ubuntu 10.4
[04:41] <at05gt> ahh
[04:41] <step21> at05gt: not while running from it. and even then theres always a risk
[04:41] <hmw> at05gt: you can relatively safely resize your partition, but crashes are always possible. do backup. i cant stop repeating this mantra.
[04:41] <at05gt> its a media drive only has music and videos on it
[04:42] <at05gt> my OS is on a seperate drive
[04:42] <jordan__> quick question.. does anyone know how to denote that i want a specific program to update from a specific repository even when another repository may have newer versions?
[04:42] <frobisher> Joe Somebody: I did it before and then changed it back.
[04:43] <at05gt> how many MiB is a gig?
[04:43] <kapcom01> hello can someone help with git? thanks
[04:43] <Beagle6> Can anyone help on getting ubuntu running on beagle?
[04:43] <at05gt> err 100 gigs
[04:43] <at05gt> sorry
[04:43] <hmw> 1 MiB = 1024 x 1024 bytes.
[04:43] <Kevin`> at05gt: 1024 mib in a gib
[04:43] <at05gt> so that times 100
[04:43] <at05gt> kk ty
[04:44] <at05gt> sweet it worked
[04:44] <at05gt> you guys rock thanks alot
[04:45] <hmw> "One is glad to be of service."
[04:45] <CkhiKuzad> Is there a configuration tweak to make the software center start downloading the next program after the current one i am downloading has downloaded, and starts to install.
[04:45] <rww> hmw: hehe
[04:45] <MindlessTux> any idea on how to force the ubuntu installer to use a drive its not recognizing in the installer but is at the OS level?  (want to use /dev/sda but can only install to /dev/sdg)
[04:45] <at05gt> lol bicentennial man
[04:45] <at05gt> awesome movie
[04:45] <Viking667> I'm outta here, going to watch a DVD.
[04:45] <rww> The Foundation series was a better book first.
[04:46] <at05gt> it was a book first?
[04:46] <Viking667> heh.
[04:46] <Viking667> yup
[04:46] <Crash1hd> I have mysql running on my ubuntu box as well I have ssh setup and I connect through putty via ssh to my ubuntu without issue but I cant seem to connect to mysql on ubuntu can anyone assist me in this? as I am stumped (and I am sure its something simple)
[04:46] <Viking667> Ahhh, Asimov.
[04:46] <at05gt> ahh yes the 3 laws
[04:46] <at05gt> made mainstream by iRobot, cause nobody reads anymore
[04:47] <TheoryDesigns> hello
[04:47] <CkhiKuzad> !hi | TheoryDesigns
[04:47] <hmw> !hi | TheoryDesigns
[04:47] <CkhiKuzad> \o/ i did that right this time!
[04:47] <TheoryDesigns> i just installed ubuntu studio
[04:47] <TheoryDesigns> how do i config x-server
[04:47] <TheoryDesigns> via console
[04:48] <Beagle6> can anyone help on installing ubuntu?
[04:48] <at05gt> !hi | at05gt
[04:48] <CkhiKuzad> Beagle6, I might be able to, ask your question with the help
[04:48] <hmw> !ask | Beagle6
[04:48] <at05gt> lol ahh i wanted to say hi to myself
[04:48] <hmw> Beagle6: what exactly do you need?
[04:48] <Resnik> what "editor" you guy suggest me to edit iptables with?
[04:49] <CkhiKuzad> Resnik, its all your choice. those questions sometimes start holy wars.
[04:49] <kevdog> Resnik: any will do -- but its tedious -- but you could use a frontend however
[04:49] <hmw> Resnik: one usually writes a shell script that configures the netfilter thingy... you can use any text editor for that. nano is a nice lightweight command line editor.
[04:49] <TheoryDesigns> how do i config x-server in ubuntu studio 10.04??
[04:49] <CkhiKuzad> Gedit is another editor that uses GTK, it's pretty easy to use too.
[04:49] <Beagle6> I keep trying to install ubuntu but I never get the validation message on the terminal window. I just get some weird symbols. I am sure i have set up the SD card correctly. CAn ayone think of why?
[04:50] <nsdk> hello guys
[04:50] <TheoryDesigns> hello nsdk
[04:50] <TheoryDesigns> how do i config x-server in ubuntu studio 10.04??
[04:50] <CkhiKuzad> !hi | nsdk
[04:50] <CkhiKuzad> !repeat | TheoryDesigns
[04:51] <nsdk> TheoryDesigns, I don't know.
[04:51] <nsdk> I need create a network ad-hoc
[04:51] <hmw> Beagle6: are you trying to validate for the md5 checksum of the download against your flash disk?
[04:51] <CkhiKuzad> oh, by the way Resnik, it turns out that ubottu has an !editor thing:
[04:52] <Beagle6> can anyone provide a good link to follow steps to install ubuntu?
[04:52] <CkhiKuzad> !editor | Resnik
[04:52] <|Sacred|> at05gt: http://tinyurl.com/373c3q8
[04:52] <|Sacred|> woops, forgot I was scrolled up, my bad
[04:52] <xangua>  !manual | Beagle6
[04:52] <Resnik> well, i'm familar with nano, but i wonder if theres any straightfoward way to do it :)
[04:52] <CkhiKuzad> !install | Beagle6
[04:53] <CkhiKuzad> Resnik, you mean like a program that modifies them?
[04:53] <temposs> TheoryDesigns, you can configure xserver by creating the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and adding the config information that you want to it
[04:53] <DAGr8> hey can any1 help mewith this ? http://pastebin.com/8T4tmrg9  I am trying to make it 'less dirty
[04:54] <hmw> Resnik: "straight forward" sounds like typing a lot of "iptables" commands into your shell *smirks*
[04:54] <Beagle6> i mean installing ubuntu on beagleboard? Any good links?
[04:54] <Resnik> sorry yes, more like program that mods it.
[04:55] <hmw> Resnik: Firestarter is a nice GUI app that lets you configure the firewall. Similar to WinXP's integrated FW.
[04:55] <melvinram> I've just installed ubuntu server using Parallels on my OSX machine and I'm trying to figure out how to get my OSX to recognize it as a computer on the network. anyone want to help?
[04:56] <Resnik> thanks hmw
[04:57] <Resnik> is it gui only thingie?
[04:57] <Kevin`> melvinram: what service do you want available to osx? you probably want something like samba installed (which also does the windows name discovery for 'network computers')
[04:57] <hmw> Resnik: yes. i'd suggest you simply try it out.
[04:57] <melvinram> Kevin`: is that something I'd install on ubuntu or osx?
[04:57] <Kevin`> melvinram: on ubuntu
[04:57] <Kevin`> osx would already have it
[04:57] <Kevin`> fwiw
[04:58] <Resnik> well, only have terminal access to my vps, can't rly do startx can i :)
[04:58] <hmw> melvinram: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[04:58] <melvinram> Kevin`: okay. I'm trying to get my computer to see the apache service on it. Let me look at that page.
[04:58] <Kevin`> Resnik: you could start a vnc session if you really wanted to
[04:58] <Jordan_U> !ufw | Resnik
[04:58] <frobisher> JoeSomebody:did you get it changed
[04:58] <Kevin`> melvinram: if that's all you need, just enter it's ip address
[04:58] <bobstro> Resnik: can you run iptables if it's VPS?
[04:59] <Beagle6> can anyone help with installing ubuntu on beagleboard?
[04:59] <bobstro> Resnik: i can't do kernel-level stuff on mine.
[04:59] <melvinram> Kevin`: how do I figure that out?
[04:59] <Resnik> dunno, thats what i'm tryin to figure out, and i'm kinda new to all this so.. :)
[04:59] <Kevin`> melvinram: your vmm software might list it, otherwise ifconfig eth0 in ubuntu. it's also listed whenever you log in.
[05:00] <bobstro> Resnik: that was one real bummer with a vps setup. at least in my (admittedly limited) experience.
[05:00] <WillPittenger> How do I prevent Ubuntu from starting the GUI during boot?  I figure that might help me figure out why I can't log in.
[05:00] <Kevin`> ubuntu on a beagleboard, that would be fun
[05:00] <hmw> Resnik: iptables is powerful, thus a bit complicated. If you like to do some reading, you could start at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[05:01] <Resnik> ty
[05:01] <DAGr8> hey can any1 help mewith this ? http://pastebin.com/8T4tmrg9  I am trying to make it 'less dirty
[05:02] <Kevin`> WillPittenger: comment out the start on lines in /etc/init/gdm.conf. this may not be the proper way, so take what someone else says over it
[05:02] <WillPittenger> Kevin`: How?  I can't reach a text editor.
[05:02] <melvinram> Kevin`:  sweet. got it working
[05:02] <Kevin`> WillPittenger: select single user / recovery mode from the bootloader menu
[05:04] <WillPittenger> It isn't providing a menu then.
[05:04] <hmw> WillPittenger: i think a bit better way is to remove gdm from runlevel2 - ...
[05:04] <jfullernz> Hi. hoping someone can help me out with a samba problem. I have asked in #samba, and googled for answers but to no avail. I am trying to get smbd to use smbusers to map machine names to unix usernames, but for some reason it is just using nobody and not mapping. the outputs and configs are here http://pastebin.com/EHjpcXx8
[05:04] <Resnik> I wonder, what would I need to install, to get vnc working on server?
[05:05] <psycho_oreos> !vnc | Resnik
[05:05] <Kevin`> Resnik: vnc4server or equivalent plus a desktop environment/window manager
[05:05] <hmw> WillPittenger: try sysv-rc-conf
[05:05] <Kevin`> Resnik: mentioned freenx is actually quite nice
[05:05] <WillPittenger> hmw: How?  I can't get to a command prompt.
[05:05] <hmw> WillPittenger: oh.
[05:06] <hmw> WillPittenger: you will need a live cd then, i suppose
[05:06] <psycho_oreos> !cli | WillPittenger
[05:06] <Kevin`> WillPittenger: hold down shift or press escape to get the menu
[05:06] <Resnik> kk, lets see how far i will get
[05:06] <JoeSomebody> frobisher yes thanks :)
[05:06] <hmw> WillPittenger: why exactly do you need to prevend x from starting?
[05:07] <WillPittenger> hmw: So I can attempt to log in that way.
[05:07] <WillPittenger> I can't log in.
[05:07] <WillPittenger> See my posts from an hour ago.
[05:07] <hmw> WillPittenger: you can change to a console, when the login screen is shown with CTRL+ALT+F1 and login to a shell
[05:08] <bobstro> jfullernz: not exactly sure i understand what you mean about map smbusers mapping
[05:08] <Manuelbrs> i want to register
[05:08] <HowardTheDuck> hi
[05:08] <hmw> Manuelbrs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#Registration
[05:08] <WillPittenger> CTRL-ALT-F1 doesn't do anything.
[05:09] <HowardTheDuck> i am trying to use gwibber and it won't add facebok or twitter after i authenticate.  my list of broadcasts stays emtpy after i authenticate
[05:09] <bobstro> jfullernz: you want their machine name to map to a username on the samba server?
[05:09] <hmw> WillPittenger: that's weird. It shows the normal Gnome login screen?
[05:09] <psycho_oreos> did you hold down Ctrl+Alt whilst pressing F1 or did you press once on those buttons each in that sequence?
[05:09] <WillPittenger> yES.
[05:09] <WillPittenger> I held the keys down.
[05:09] <jfullernz> bobstro, correct, to identify the machine and map it to a unix username for allowing write permissions based on the user
[05:10] <bobstro> Resnik: you want vnc on headless (VPS?) server
[05:10] <Kevin`> WillPittenger: btw, does shift (on boot) work for you, or does it just not matter now that you figured something else out
[05:10] <hmw> WillPittenger: perhaps you have a problem with the keyboard or something. Can you type in a user name? if not, you could try to un/replug the keyboard.
[05:10] <WillPittenger> Holding down shift during boot did nothing.
[05:10] <jfullernz> bobstro, from all examples and tutorials I've come across the way its set up SHOULD be working, but as the pastebin will show on the last lines, its not :(
[05:11] <frobisher> Joe Somebody:you welcome
[05:11] <Kevin`> WillPittenger: it needs to be early, before the bootloader is done (right after/during the bios stuff)
[05:11] <WillPittenger> hmw: Keyboard is fine or I wouldn't be able to talk to you.  Ubuntu is in a VBox VM.
[05:11] <WillPittenger> Kevin`: I know.
[05:11] <bobstro> jfullernz: so your user exists on the samba server and you've created an smbpasswd entry for them?
[05:11] <Merritt> Well I can't figure out how to kill this updater process, so I have to assume my hard drive is really failing this time and just not reboot for now. Thanks to everyone who tried to help! :)
[05:11] <Manuelbrs> hello
[05:12] <hmw> WillPittenger: that might explain, why CTRL-ALT-F1 doesnt work. Did you install SSH - perhaps you can log in remotely
[05:12] <Kevin`> WillPittenger: well, it works for me in a kvm vm, if you are feeling desperate enough to try booting it in that ;p
[05:12] <WillPittenger> Now it got it.
[05:12] <jfullernz> bobstro, yes. I'm using root, and have done smbpasswd -an root to create a null password
[05:13] <bobstro> jfullernz: ugh. don't use root! create a normal user account and give it an smbpasswd entry.
[05:13] <bobstro> jfullernz: you can give any user admin rights without futzing with root.
[05:13] <ethana3> https://retailupgrades.intel.com/Page.aspx?Name=Upgrade
[05:13] <WillPittenger> Kevin`: I have a prompt.  How do I log in?
[05:13] <jfullernz> bobstro, still doesnt help when its not actually doing any mapping :)
[05:13] <bobstro> jfullernz: i don't see a workgroup in your config
[05:13] <ethana3> how do I upgrade my Intel CPU with Ubuntu?
[05:13] <Kevin`> WillPittenger: what prompt do you have?
[05:13] <WillPittenger> root?
[05:14] <Kevin`> WillPittenger: you don't need to login then, just change the files
[05:14] <hmw> i often was successful with installing tightvncserver
[05:14] <bobstro> jfullernz: ok, is your problem that users aren't being distinguished, or actually that you want them to link to their machine name?
[05:14] <WillPittenger> Kevin`: The point was to attempt to log in this way.
[05:14] <bobstro> jfullernz: looking at those lines is making me think you just can't log in as a specific user.
[05:14] <bobstro> jfullernz: and i don't think samba will LET you be root.
[05:14] <Kevin`> WillPittenger: so disable gdm THEN try to log in
[05:14] <jfullernz> bobstro, just changing it from root to username now to see if it makes any diff
[05:15] <rabbitear> access denied
[05:15] <hmw> Kevin`: WillPittenger: a funny way to disable gdm (or any other script in /etc/init.d/) is chmod 000 /etc/init.d/whatever
[05:15] <bobstro> jfullernz: so sounds like the underlying problem is that you can't log in as specific users, right?
[05:15] <jfullernz> bobstro, all examples I encountered showed root as being usable
[05:15] <Jimmy_Insomniac> Hi all, I'm having trouble booting up Ubuntu 10.4 - at log-in, it comes up with an error message that says "Problem with the configuration server. Usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2    Exited with status 256"  Could someone help me out? Thanks
[05:15] <Kevin`> hmw: that's so wrong :)
[05:15] <Kevin`> i've done it several times, though :/
[05:15] <hmw> Kevin`: thats useful in case it is only temporary - you will get a warning at the boot screen, so you wont forget it.
[05:15] <jfullernz> bobstro, the client machines are unable to set a login name on many of them, and can only go as a guest. hence the machine name mapping
[05:16] <WillPittenger> Kevin`: I don't know how to edit the file.  I never understood vi and don't know of an alternative.
[05:16] <hmw> WillPittenger: try nano
[05:16] <bobstro> jfullernz: would you be happy to get username logins working? that sounds much easier.
[05:16] <bobstro> jfullernz: what is your 'security =' setting in smb.conf?
[05:16] <Kevin`> WillPittenger: nano is nice. or just do what hmw suggested, chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm
[05:16] <jfullernz> bobstro, its still mapping to nobody, so using a username rather than root hasnt helped
[05:17] <bobstro> jfullernz: yes, thus my last question. it matters in how it maps. are you using 'security = user'?
[05:17] <jfullernz> bobstro, security=user
[05:17] <hmw> Kevin`: WillPittenger: one can edit the runlevel things with sysv-rc-conf easily.
[05:17] <bobstro> jfullernz: ok
[05:17] <Kevin`> hmw: except gdm is an upstart thingy not sysv
[05:17] <jfullernz> bobstro, I can only configure from the server end, not every client pc, so issuing login names to everyone would not be ideal
[05:18] <Resnik> ok, installed xubuntu-desktop and rdesktop ... I hope i'm doing it right?
[05:18] <bobstro> jfullernz: this is for an office with active directory or somesuch?
[05:18] <monokrome> Sorry for the join/part, I came in and thought Ubuntu was the right place for this question - but it's a vmware question.
[05:18] <Jimmy_Insomniac> Hi all, I'm having trouble booting up Ubuntu 10.4 - at log-in, it comes up with an error message that says "Problem with the configuration server. Usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2    Exited with status 256"  Could someone help me out? Thanks
[05:18] <Kevin`> Resnik: rdesktop is a microsoft terminal services client, not a server
[05:18] <bobstro> jfullernz: you can integrate samba with AD, but it's some work... not something i've done much with.
[05:18] <hmw> Kevin`: omg you are so right... in my last ubuntu version, it was still working with sysv-rc-conf, now it is already disabled. I dont like upstart. *whine*
[05:18] <jfullernz> bobstro, its for a WLAN network covering a 1km radius
[05:18] <ryano> Hi, whats the difference if any between Evolution and Evolution Mail and Calendar that come installed on Ubuntu as default?
[05:19] <bobstro> jfullernz: ok. samba won't care about network details. so there's no central user directory, just random users that can connect?
[05:19] <Resnik> ur right Kevin`, my mistake
[05:19] <bobstro> jfullernz: do you want users to have guest-level access? read-only?
[05:19] <hmw> Resnik: Ubuntu already comes with vinagre, which is a VNC server. I sometimes had troubles getting it to do its job. In these cases i used tightvncserver succesfully.
[05:20] <WillPittenger> Kevin`, hmw: I appear to be able to log in that way.
[05:20] <anlarye> on ubuntu 10.04 LTS i cannot access the properties window of any user. not even my own user name.
[05:20] <bobstro> jfullernz: if you just want a share, may be easiest to set up an account per machine with passwd+smbpasswd, then map using that.
[05:20] <jfullernz> bobstro, I am wanting to have a central folder share, with read only guest access to all users EXCEPT for a 2 admins being able to move files around
[05:21] <jfullernz> bobstro, an account per machine wouldnt work due to being a hotspot
[05:21] <bobstro> jfullernz: if i'm reading your log right, that's what it's doing. nobody is mapping to guest, pcguest and smbguest.
[05:21] <Kevin`> jfullernz: guest access for newer broken windows clients needs some rewriting rule, let me find it
[05:21] <hmw> jfullernz: you could create 2 different shares pointing to the same dir, one for guests/read only and one pwd protected for the admins
[05:21] <Kevin`> jfullernz:
[05:21] <Kevin`> [global]
[05:21] <Kevin`> map to guest = Bad User
[05:21] <bobstro> jfullernz: and the account jason-desktop has useraccount + smbpasswd entry?
[05:22] <LinuxGuy2009> If I install the base system using the server CD and I boot to the command line, how do I go about mounting and browsing my USB flashdrive or hard drive  to manually install packages from them?
[05:22] <jfullernz> bobstro, umm not sure what you mean there. jason-desktop is the machine name that is connecting
[05:22] <hmw> LinuxGuy2009: try sudo fdisk -l  to see all partitions and mount it. perhaps sudo blkid is useful for you, too
[05:22] <Kevin`> someone have a !unixclitutorial ?
[05:22] <LinuxGuy2009> hmw: Cool thank you
[05:23] <shayaknyc> hey, could someone point me in the right direction for configuring a pptp vpn client in ubuntu to connect to a windows server?
[05:23] <bobstro> jfullernz: i think that's your problem. samba, to the best of my knowledge, is going to authenticate using USER credentials, not your machine-name. your root = setting won't make a difference UNLESS you are logging in as jason-desktop (user).
[05:23] <hmw> Kevin`: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ lots to read though
[05:23] <jfullernz> hmw, thats true. one solution anyway. although can you hide the writable one from all other users?
[05:23] <bobstro> jfullernz: at least with 'security = user'
[05:23] <Kevin`> hmw: I mean something to point users to who ask questions like LinuxGuy2009's
[05:23] <hmw> jfullernz: i dont think you can hide, but you can passwordprotect
[05:23] <Crash1hd> anyone know why /etc/init.d/mysql restart is returning something about upstart job
[05:23] <hmw> Kevin`: google.com
[05:24] <bobstro> jfullernz: when you connect as shown in your log, do you have read-only access to the share?
[05:24] <Kevin`> jfullernz: you can hide shares from sets of users
[05:24] <hmw> Crash1hd: because ubuntu does not use sysv-init anymore. it is still there for compatibility reasons, though.
[05:24] <jfullernz> bobstro, yes. its currently read only due to being mapped to a guest account
[05:24] <Crash1hd> hmw, ok so how do I restart mysql now?
[05:25] <Kevin`> Crash1hd: restart mysql
[05:25] <jfullernz> Kevin`, ok thats something to look at then :)
[05:25] <Kevin`> or, what you tried before, will work
[05:25] <bobstro> jfullernz: ok. well, that's what i'd expect given your config. i think what you want to do is create user accounts for your 'admin' users, then connect using those.
[05:25] <vjr> pls help me, using ubuntu 10.4 LTS of sudden laptop turned dumb for speakers, but working fine with earphones ? had checked all options under sound volume control, but of no use
[05:25] <shayaknyc> anyone help with a vpn client to connect to a windows server?
[05:25] <bobstro> jfullernz: the write list is only if you're authenticated. it doesn't give write rights to everybody.
[05:25] <Crash1hd> Kevin`, hmm i get unknown instance
[05:26] <hmw> vjr: you might be able to find the bad setting with alsamixer
[05:26] <bobstro> jfullernz: so the level of access you have now is ok for your non-admin users, right?
[05:26] <Kevin`> Crash1hd: is it perhaps not running?
[05:26] <Crash1hd> Kevin`, nope its running
[05:26] <Kevin`> can you stop, start i?
[05:27] <jfullernz> bobstro, I realise that bobstro. thats where the user mapping is supposed to work. check this link for info http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugsamba.html
[05:27] <bobstro> jfullernz: but what username are you using?
[05:28] <bobstro> jfullernz: you said jason-desktop was the MACHINE name.
[05:28] <hmw> Kevin`: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting but thats really for the bash, not for Linux in general. A simple tutorial, that covers all important things is an oxymoron, i fear.
[05:28] <jfullernz> bobstro, please read the link I pasted. that will explain it
[05:28] <Crash1hd> Kevin`, well it says mysqk start/running process 11720
[05:29] <WillPittenger> Kevin`, hmw: Now that I can login, how do I manually start the GUI?
[05:29] <bobstro> jfullernz: again, is there a jason-desktop account on the samba server?
[05:30] <xbonesx> Are there any fixes to the memenu bugs, I have such a hard time setting up facebook and getting it to stay setup
[05:30] <Kevin`> WillPittenger: start gdm. sh /etc/init.d/gdm start if you broke the script in the hacky way instead.
[05:30] <Crash1hd> Kevin`, odd start and stop work just not restart
[05:30] <hmw> WillPittenger: service gdm start
[05:30] <WillPittenger> All I did was comment out the line.
[05:30] <hmw> WillPittenger: perhaps you need sudo for that
[05:31] <jfullernz> bobstro, there does not have to BE an account with the machine name on the server.... only an account with the username you are mapping TO.
[05:31] <WillPittenger> hmw: The service one did start the GUI, but dumped me at the login prompt.
[05:31] <hmw> WillPittenger: of course. now you need CTRL-ALT-F1 again, i fear...
[05:32] <monokrome> Has anyone here had issues specifically with VMWare + Ubuntu + SoundBlaster X-Fi cards/
[05:32] <hmw> WillPittenger: wait... "Login Prompt" - console/shell or graphical?
[05:32] <jfullernz> bobstro, where in the tutorial link I pasted does it say to create a user account called the same as the machine name? I certainly did NOT see it there
[05:32] <WillPittenger> Graphic.
[05:32] <bobstro> jfullernz: ah... there is an account. root.
[05:32] <hmw> WillPittenger: thats what it ought to do
[05:32] <jfullernz> DUH!!! I've been telling you that from the start!
[05:32] <jfullernz> READ/LISTEN
[05:32] <hmw> WillPittenger: check out your VM on how to send "CTRL-ALT-F1"
[05:33] <WillPittenger> hmw: VBox uses the *right* CTRL for the host key.  I tested with the left to prevent Vbox from grabbing it.
[05:33] <bobstro> jfullernz: mine's working. just trying to help. rtfm and all that. good luck.
[05:33] <Gintulis> hi, how to change partition title on the desktop, partition „/data00„ (ext4), mountpoint „/media/data00„ on the desktop tilte is „507 GB file system”, i want that this title would „data00„
[05:33] <jfullernz> FFS
[05:33] <tmg1> if i can't get gnome failsafe to load, but i can get the xterm to load and then run metacity/nautilus afterwards...what should I do to make the gnome-failsafe work?
[05:33] <hmw> WillPittenger: well... reboot and login to the shell like before, then install the ssh daemon and next time you can login from outside
[05:33] <WillPittenger> asdfP;9lkj
[05:34] <rodd> Hi, I'm with my notebook and out of cds or usb devices, is there any way to install ubuntu? I just have the .iso file and I'm on win7 (I dont want to intall through WUBI)
[05:35] <hmw> rodd: i dont know really, but I have the following idea: you can use a virtual machine, these things can use iso files as CD-roms
[05:36] <hmw> rodd: probably not exactly, what you want, but you could get an ubuntu to play with at least.
[05:36] <rodd> oh
[05:36] <rodd> but id like to have it installed in another partition of my hdd
[05:36] <rodd> and have dual boot option
[05:36] <hmw> rodd: i know. i think you are stuck until you get a CD or Flashdisk
[05:36] <rodd> =\
[05:37] <at05gt> i just lost the icons next to my clock on my bar and have no idea how to get them back
[05:37] <kreeper_> how do i partition my hdd with ubuntu?
[05:37] <hmw> at05gt: right click the panel and use "add to panel"
[05:37] <at05gt> ya i know that much but i cant remember which icons it was
[05:37] <at05gt> one was an envelope and the other was somethin else
[05:38] <hmw> kreeper_: the live cd installer comes with a nice partitioner (select "manual") - if your ubuntu is already up and running, install gparted
[05:38] <xbonesx> Anyone else having issues with getting gwibber to work with facebook?
[05:38] <LinuxGuy2009> Ok I did a "sudo fdisk -l" and I see my flashdrive is at /dev/sdc1. Do I need to create a folder and mount it to the folder to access the files?
[05:39] <hmw> at05gt: i always get rid of those things as fast as possible after a fresh install, so i can only help on how to _remove_ those nifty gadgets *smirks*
[05:39] <hmw> LinuxGuy2009: you have already a folder for temporary mountings - /mnt - so you could do: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt
[05:39] <LinuxGuy2009> hmw: ok cool I didnt know that. Thank you.
[05:39] <monokrome> Hmm... Using /dev/dsp - it works again
[05:40] <monokrome> instead of alsa
[05:40] <hmw> LinuxGuy2009: you could create a folder and use that, too
[05:40] <at05gt> hmw: ya ive got 3 bars running right now, one is for my open programs and workspaces, the other is a quick launch and status bar the 3rd is for my computers performance monitors
[05:40] <LinuxGuy2009> hmw: sweet
[05:41] <WillPittenger> hmw, Kevin`: I finally got the CTRL-ALT-F1 inserted.
[05:41] <hmw> heheh cool
[05:41] <WillPittenger> Now what?
[05:41] <at05gt> welp time to go reinstall windows, if you dont see me for a few hours, bill gates is eating my soul
[05:42] <hmw> WillPittenger: i still recommend installing ssh, because its quite useful. I missed your very problem - why did you want to disable gdm in the first place?
[05:42] <piyushmishra> does ubuntu have multitouch capability?
[05:42] <at05gt> like for a tablet pc?
[05:42] <hmw> piyushmishra: i think not
[05:42] <piyushmishra> any drivers/hacks writte for that?
[05:42] <piyushmishra> at05gt: yup
[05:42] <Arafangi1n> piyushmishra: Any hacks would be application specific.
[05:42] <xangua> maverick will piyushmishra
[05:42] <hmw> piyushmishra: not out of the box at least...
[05:42] <WillPittenger> hmw: When I log in normally, it kicks me right back out.
[05:43] <anlarye> got disconnected, dont know if there was a response - but i am unable to access the "properties" section on users. clicking that menu option does nothing. any help?
[05:43] <piyushmishra> hmmm :( kk
[05:43] <at05gt> linux can use NTFS correct?
[05:43] <Arafangi1n> piyushmishra: Infact, I seem to recall a multitouch version of X11... But it required brand new applications written from scratch to take advantage of that capability.
[05:43] <Arafangi1n> at05gt: Yes.
[05:43] <at05gt> ty
[05:43] <hmw> WillPittenger: might be the case, that something in your home folder is messed up. you could create another user or use a typical hmw approach: rename the home folder, create a new, empty one and try logging in again
[05:44] <Arafangi1n> at05gt: Read-only is reliable, read-write i think works these days... But it's had read-only for a long time.
[05:44] <hmw> WillPittenger: not the whole /home, i meant rename /home/yourname to /home/yourname.orig
[05:44] <piyushmishra> Arafangi1n: hmmm
[05:44] <Arafangi1n> hmw: And copy the files from /etc/skel :)
[05:44] <hmw> WillPittenger: ^
[05:45] <WillPittenger> Copy what files from /etc/skel?
[05:45] <Arafangi1n> WillPittenger: All. :)
[05:45] <hmw> Arafangi1n: theoretical question: one should be able to log in with an empty home folder, too, but with certain "drawbacks", right?
[05:45] <Arafangi1n> hmw: Oh, yes, of course.
[05:45] <hmw> thanks
[05:45] <WillPittenger> Just one file there.  examples.desktop.
[05:45] <Arafangi1n> hmw: You can log in without any home folder, as well. ;)
[05:46] <Arafangi1n> hmw: (Only on the command line, though - not sure how GDM would handle that...)
[05:46] <filsuf> hoi ... anybody knows which eReader has been hacked?
[05:46] <hmw> Arafangi1n: i was thinking gnome, i guess it should work... somehow...
[05:46] <filsuf> the android ones
[05:46] <hmw> WillPittenger: try ls -a /etc/skel
[05:46] <filsuf> Cruz? Sony's?
[05:46] <piyushmishra> xangua, at05gt, hmw, Arafangi1n: http://nuigroup.com/touchlib/ what about this one?
[05:46] <Arafangi1n> hmw: I don't think gnome or any of the DE's will have an issue with an empty ~/, as long as you have one.
[05:47] <hmw> Arafangi1n: darn. i need to test it now.
[05:48] <WillPittenger> How do you rename a directory from the command line?
[05:48] <tmg1> mv dirname1 dirname2
[05:48] <Arafangi1n> piyushmishra: That looks to me like a middle-layer library. You'll still have to hook that up to actual hardware, and actual frontends.
[05:48] <at05gt> ok i just had a brain wave, if i could figure out how to get virtual box working, i wouldnt need to reinstall a windows partition would i?
[05:48] <piyushmishra> Arafangi1n: no wonder i couldnt make much sense out of it :P
[05:49] <TiK> Ive tried many linux os's and ubuntu is the prettiest
[05:49] <Arafangi1n> piyushmishra: Would be extremely useful if you were to make your own multitouch surface, as well. :)
[05:49] <at05gt> only problem is i dont have any windows install CDs, would i be able to install the recovery partition as a virtual OS?
[05:49] <hmw> Arafangi1n: oh wow / i got autologged in and gnome looks fresh
[05:49] <piyushmishra> Arafangi1n: I saw that in a video where some guy makes a multitouch screen from cardboard, paper , glass anda  webcam
[05:50] <piyushmishra> and a*
[05:50] <Arafangi1n> hmw: Yeah, I doubt it would've had any issues. :)
[05:50] <chilli0> Hello , I need to make a ZIP file of all of the hidden files in my home dir. But when I try it says no such file or directory.
[05:50] <Arafangi1n> piyushmishra: I saw a team who used similar material, but included a projector. Imagine a 3 meter touch screen. :)
[05:51] <at05gt> use your whole body as a pointer
[05:51] <at05gt> lol
[05:51] <Arafangi1n> at05gt: No, just hands. :)
[05:51] <hmw> chilli0: open nautilus, press CTRL+H (show hidden files), select all and make a zip
[05:51] <Arafangi1n> at05gt: One problem that they found, was that they had to press quite hard :(
[05:51] <at05gt> imagine it now, a new form of computer art made WITH THE BODY
[05:51] <Arafangi1n> at05gt: Hardly new.
[05:51] <piyushmishra> Arafangi1n: the one that guy in the vid made was half meter tall to let the webcam see the whole screen properly
[05:52] <chilli0> hmw, I tried, first I got an error that I didn't have the permistion , so I ran it in root.  I did what you said. Can't make a type with that.
[05:53] <hmw> chilli0: just checking... you see the files in nautilus but still cant zip them?
[05:53] <chilli0> Corret.
[05:53] <chilli0> Correct*
[05:54] <piyushmishra> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1ydSP3viDk&annotation_id=annotation_114452&feature=iv thats the vid
[05:54] <hmw> chilli0: i think i know, whats going on. There are certain files in your home, that are "dynamic" stuff. Try to select only things, you know and you really want to keep. What exactly are you trying to achieve anyways?
[05:55] <chilli0> I need to back up my whole home directory ( I have copyed all of the non-hidden stuff) and put it on my server so I don't need to run of the hard drive.
[05:55] <xbonesx> Anyone know how to get gwibber working properly for facebook accounts?
[05:55] <Chr|s> xbonesx, its kinda buggy right now
[05:56] <uLinux> hmw: ei
[05:56] <WillPittenger> hmw: How do I set the rights for the new folder so my account can read
[05:56] <uLinux> hmw: i did an installation test with vbox http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5917/lucidrunningvirtualboxo.png
[05:56] <hmw> WillPittenger: sudo chown yourname:yourname /home/yourname i guess
[05:57] <xbonesx> Chr|s: ya occasionally i can get it too work but it takes a lot of retries before it actually does anything
[05:57] <LinuxGuy2009> When you run "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" does it copy the packages to the systems packages cache folder first?
[05:58] <no--name> hi. using vmware workstation 7.1.0 build-261024... host os = ubuntu 10.04, guest os = ubuntu 10.04... side mouse buttons work in host but not guest... what gives?
[05:58] <xbonesx> Is their any anti-virus software for Ubuntu?
[05:58] <kevdog> xbonesx: Dont need it -- but there is some
[05:58] <hmw> !antivirus | xbonesx
[05:59] <WillPittenger> Sure are a lot of files in /etc/skel.
[05:59] <anlarye> anyone have that answer for the properties menu not working in ubuntu 10.04?
[05:59] <xbonesx> Really, there's now way for people to hack you when running Ubuntu?
[05:59] <hmw> no--name: probably the mouse driver in your VM/Guest additions...
[05:59] <no--name> ok
[05:59] <tmg1> xbonesx: clamav
[06:00] <hmw> xbonesx: there are ways. hacking = breaking in is another issue than virus attacks. cracking linux is _very_ hard in general.
[06:00] <xbonesx> hmw: Why is that?
[06:00] <xbonesx> hmw: linux being hard to crack, is there a certain reason?
[06:00] <hmw> xbonesx: configure your firewall properly, use strong passwords, dont create folders in your apache's document root like /test or /mysql and such stuff
[06:00] <ouyes> Is  there any tool of downloading like flashget under windows?
[06:01] <kevdog> whats flashget
[06:01] <hmw> xbonesx: yes, linux is a real OS. any program you download and run can only access stuff, you (as the user) have access to, which is mainly your own files, but not the system files.
[06:01] <no--name> why is it bad to create folders in /, hmv?
[06:02] <cryptopsy> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu/Downloads# sox lol.mp3 lol2.mp3 trim 0 40
[06:02] <cryptopsy> sox FAIL formats: no handler for file extension `mp3'
[06:02] <hmw> no--name: folders people (or bots) might guess sometimes provide "backdoors"... like test scripts in /test
[06:02] <abhi_> Hello friends, I was attempting to install dropbox on ubuntu. Suddenly my network coverage disappeared and the downloading of the software was interupted, now i am trying once again to install drop box from the same file, it is hanging, how to remove the previous installation traces of dropbox in order to install it properly? I am using ubuntu 10.04 on intel dual core architecture. Please help
[06:02] <cryptopsy> help me
[06:02] <hiexpo> !windows
[06:02] <cryptopsy> pls
[06:02] <Nanobot> The proliferation of antivirus software on Windows is largely a symptom of a general culture of laid-back security practices in Windows.
[06:02] <gdb> xbonesx: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privilege_separation
[06:02] <hmw> ouyes: do you mean some wizard that installs adobe flash?
[06:03] <kevdog> mp3 decoder -- isnt that in the restricted package?
[06:03] <gdb> xbonesx: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_privilege
[06:03] <xbonesx> Nanobot: lol
[06:03] <ouyes> hmw, no tools to download something fast like bittorrent
[06:03] <WillPittenger> hmw: Didn't work.
[06:03] <Arafangi1n> hmw: Keep in mind that as far as most users are concerned, their own data /is/ the most important part of the system.
[06:03] <WillPittenger> Have to return to the problem later.
[06:03] <Nanobot> Mac OS X and Linux both use UNIX-style filesystems and security practices, and neither has any pressing need for antivirus software
[06:04] <Arafangi1n> Nanobot: I would disagree. Mac OS X has had a relatively poor history there.
[06:04] <Nanobot> Windows is only now starting to migrate toward some of the UNIX-style practices
[06:04] <linux> I think I have a virus on my Lucid machine
[06:04] <Arafangi1n> Nanobot: They're doing well only because they've not been a huge target.
[06:04] <Nanobot> Linux isn't a huge target?
[06:04] <Nanobot> Seriously?
[06:04] <Arafangi1n> Nanobot: Mac OS X.
[06:04] <WLP|Away> Macs are being targeted because of their growing popularity thanks to the Mac and PC commercials.
[06:04] <hmw> Nanobot: that's right. target #1 is windows _workstations_
[06:04] <Nanobot> Linux powers most websites, especially some of the biggest websites out there. Linux is a major target.
[06:04] <gdb> Macs have a fantastic record from a Unix security perspective.
[06:05]  * WLP|Away remembers the mail bug.
[06:05] <gdb> What hasn't had a good record is the Safari web browser.
[06:05] <hmw> !away | WLP|Away
[06:05] <kevdog> exploits for Macs at blackhat -- that came through the browser
[06:05] <kevdog> and recently FLASH
[06:05] <xbonesx> I like Ubuntu better than windows anyways, initially it's a little harder to get setup and running good, but its much better in the end
[06:05] <linux> Basically, when I get into the system processes, there is an "unknown process", well, about ten of them, eating my CPU. On top of that, there's an "sh" and a "ssh client" running that I had never seen before. Anyway to fix?
[06:05] <Nanobot> xbonesx: Have you tried to install Windows on a completely blank machine?
[06:06] <Arafangi1n> gdb: I wouldn't say fantastic.  The unix layer is good, but the fact that they don't neccessarily fix bugs for a long time, and the NextStep layer is a bit of an issue too particularly with respect to scripting the GUI applications.
[06:06] <xbonesx> ya i had windows on this hdd before i partitioned and setup Ubuntu
[06:06] <kevdog> uninstall ssh client
[06:06] <Arafangi1n> xbonesx: That wasn't the question you were asked.
[06:06] <AbhiJit> hi gm
[06:06] <abhi_>  Hello friends, I was attempting to install dropbox on ubuntu. Suddenly my network coverage disappeared and the downloading of the software was interupted, now i am trying once again to install drop box from the same file, it is hanging, how to remove the previous installation traces of dropbox in order to install it properly? I am using ubuntu 10.04 on intel dual core architecture. Please help
[06:06] <kevdog> or uninstall ssh
[06:06] <Nanobot> Installing Windows from scratch takes all day, and you tend to have a lot of driver issues. In my experience, Ubuntu is way easier than Windows to install on a blank machine
[06:06] <xbonesx> Arafangi1n: ?
[06:07] <Arafangi1n> xbonesx: The question you were asked was if you had installed windows from scratch before - not if you'd merely had it.
[06:07] <hmw> !offtopic
[06:07] <AbhiJit> i marked some channels as favorite. where to see them in xchat?
[06:07] <xbonesx> Have i installed windows from like a fresh isntall, yes.
[06:07] <linux> If someone were hacking my Ubuntu machine, or it was infected with a virus, how would I know?
[06:07] <Arafangi1n> Nanobot: In my experience, installing a recent version of windows isn't that bad, but the applications you use then take all day.
[06:07] <Nanobot> xbonesx: Meaning, you had a blank hard drive, and you booted from the Windows CD?
[06:08] <xbonesx> Arafangi1n: I've installed windows 7 plenty of times
[06:08] <xbonesx> Arafangi1n: yes
[06:08] <hmw> linux: usually you would check your log files every now and then
[06:08] <xbonesx> Arafangi1n: why is this being asked anyways?
[06:08] <linux> hmw: how would i go about that? :)
[06:08] <Arafangi1n> xbonesx: I don't know - I wasn't asking. :)
[06:08] <hmw> linux: check out the files in /var/log/*
[06:08] <gdb> linux: Install logwatch and check your email once a day.
[06:09] <icarus-c> linux, no practical linux virus exist as far as i know
[06:09] <gdb> no need to go digging in /var/log
[06:09] <kreeper> i just installed gparted and I dont know how to partition off the partition that i currently use for ubuntu, how do I do this?
[06:09] <xbonesx> Nanobot: why do you ask?
[06:09] <ouyes> hmw, like aria2
[06:09] <Arafangi1n> linux: Keep in mind that most in the linux community distinguish between trojans, viruses, and worms.
[06:09] <Nanobot> xbonesx: I was just curious. A colleague of mine has the unfortunate responsibility of installing operating systems for every new computer we hand out (which is a lot), and installing Windows easily takes most of the day.
[06:09] <hmw> kreeper: you don't - boot off the live cd to tweak your partitions
[06:09] <gdb> Nanobot: Your colleague doesn't use ghost?
[06:09] <Nanobot> xbonesx: But when he has to install Linux (specifically, Ubuntu), it takes just an hour or two.
[06:09] <linux> to all: I wonder if unknown processes and would count as malicious software? IE, an ssh client running type as "zombie" and about ten - fifteen unknown programs using an unknown amount of memory, but all the CPU.
[06:09] <gdb> Installing a new image takes about 15-20 minutes then.
[06:09] <kreeper> i dont currently it anymore
[06:10] <ouyes> hmw, like wget
[06:10] <Arafangi1n> Nanobot: He's a fool for not using ghost.
[06:10] <kreeper> i dont have it anymore
[06:10] <Nanobot> gdb: No. I'm not sure why he isn't using ghost, but he doesn't
[06:10] <gdb> linux:  Don't worry about zombies, they're not actually running.
[06:10] <xbonesx> Nanobot: oh i got it... ya you were referring to my comment about Ubuntu being a little harder to setup
[06:10] <Nanobot> Presumably because each person needs different specs
[06:10] <Nanobot> xbonesx: Yeah
[06:10] <xbonesx> Nanobot: ya setting up the drivers is the hardest part
[06:10] <gdb> linux: As for the rest, I dunno.
[06:10] <AbhiJit> i marked some channels as favorite. where to see them in xchat?
[06:10] <xbonesx> Nanobot: everything else is a breeze
[06:11] <AbhiJit> nvm
[06:11] <AbhiJit> i found it!
[06:11] <icarus-c> linux, can you identify what started those ssh clients
[06:11] <Nanobot> I've only installed Windows from scratch once. I've installed Ubuntu from scratch plenty of times
[06:11] <linux> gdb: I think I'm just going to do a fresh install. I probably don't need to, but i think i will
[06:11] <linux> icarus-c: how so? the "top" command?
[06:11] <Nanobot> (I haven't really used Windows in several years)
[06:11] <icarus-c> linux, and those CPU hungry process
[06:11] <AbhiJit> how to see bash log?
[06:12] <Manuelbrs>     * /MSG NiCK INFO Manuelbrs
[06:12] <anlarye> I am unable to access the properties of any user on 10.04 using the gui,
[06:12] <kreeper> hmw: can i create a partition table on my swap space, or will that cause problems?
[06:12] <icarus-c> AbhiJit, you meant bash history?  use the "history" command
[06:12] <linux> icarus-c: i'll definitely try the method out, whatever it is
[06:12] <AbhiJit> icarus-c, ok
[06:12] <hmw> kreeper: swap space is a partition, one cannot create partition tables there
[06:13] <icarus-c> linux, top,  ps... they all tell what you want to know
[06:13] <icarus-c> AbhiJit, note that bash history is per-user
[06:13] <AbhiJit> icarus-c, yah
[06:13] <linux> icarus-c: i guess i'd just find the ID that is using the most CPU? kill it in terminal...
[06:13] <kreeper> hmw: well can I format it?
[06:14] <hmw> kreeper: usually you can turn of swap (swapoff) without big problems (as long as you dont open insanely many programs).
[06:15] <hmw> kreeper: but i would suggest to recreate a swap later, just in case you are "powerusing" your machine again.
[06:15] <kreeper> hmw: ok thx
[06:15] <thune3> anlarye: come again?
[06:16] <linux> icarus-c: well, unfortunately, it's listing Xorg as the highest CPU eater - can't find any unnamed processes - and
[06:16] <linux> icarus-c: 'ps' isn't telling me anything
[06:16] <linux> icarus-c: i installed lubuntu, i wonder if that caused a configuration error of somekind somewhere
[06:16] <Arafangi1n> hmw: I always feel uncomfortable without a swap file. :)
[06:16] <saji89> linux, Try ps aux
[06:16] <linux> saji89: good it
[06:17] <Arafangi1n> hmw: Keep in mind that linux overcommits memory.
[06:17] <xtc> hello people :)
[06:17] <xtc> hey... can gparted resize NTFS without losing data?
[06:17] <hmw> Arafangi1n: although my swap is only touched, when i use programs with memory leaks, i feel uncomfy without swap, too
[06:17] <anlarye> thune3, when i goto the users and groups listing from the administration menu. if you right click on a user name .. there is an option for "properties" clicking on that menu item doesnt do anything. nothing happens at all. no new window opens. no cursor change ... nada
[06:17] <saji89> linux, Okies.
[06:18] <linux> saji89: what is watchdog? lol
[06:18] <hmw> xtc: i think so. But resizing is always a critical operation, you should backup your data in any case
[06:18] <xtc> yeah, but still i wanted to ask... i don't want to have to restore unless i really have to. :)
[06:18] <saji89> linux, Was that seen in the ps aux output? A watchdog is like a timekeeper for synchronisation. :)
[06:18] <Arafangi1n> hmw: Have you ever had the OOM killer? :)
[06:19] <hmw> never heard of OOM
[06:19] <linux> saji89: ahhh, yes, it was - i'm being paranoid, i guess - what should i look for?
[06:19] <hmw> Arafangi1n: some daemon that kills any process if it allocates more than a MB ??
[06:19] <saji89> linux, What is the problem you're facing?
[06:19] <Arafangi1n> hmw: The default behavour of a linux system is to give each program as much memory as they ask for, even if it doesn't actually have that memory.
[06:20] <xtc> thanks :)
[06:20] <Arafangi1n> hmw: In practice, this works out well because applications don't neccessarily actually use that memory at that time, but if linux does find itself in the situation where it simply doesn't have enough memory, then it is forced to employ the Out Of Memory Killer.
[06:21] <LinuxGuy2009> Ok now Im having an issue with installing from my USB hard drive local repository that I made with "dpkg-scanpackages". The Packages.gz file was created just fine, I checked it. I did the USB hard drive mount like "/sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt". The sources.list file is empty except my entry which looks like "deb file:///mnt/Repo/ ./". What am I doing wrong? I just did this on my desktop machine here and its working with the folder on my d
[06:21] <hersoy> hello, i am using ubuntu 10.4 and using virtualbox. i am download windows server 2008 trial iso. but i cant add iso in virtualbox. error; VD: error VERR_VD_RAW_INVALID_HEADER opening image file '/home/huseyin/Genel/iso_kalıplar/win/7600.16385.090713-1255_x64fre_server_eval_en-us-GRMSXEVAL_EN_DVD.iso' (VERR_VD_RAW_INVALID_HEADER).
[06:21] <hersoy> how can i do?
[06:22] <linux> saji89: basically, in the gnome system monitor, it's listing like fifteen unknown applications using an unknown amount of memory - another process called heart, something i've never heard of - and my CPU is being destroyed by power-hungry apps that have no name :(
[06:22] <LinuxGuy2009> Do I need to mount it in my home folder or something?
[06:22] <hmw> hersoy: validate your download, perhaps there was a transmission error. You could also ask in #windows, perhaps its a limitation of the windows software
[06:22] <saji89> linux, Hold on.
[06:22] <linux> saji89: kk
[06:22] <Arafangi1n> LinuxGuy2009: In any case, you certainly don't need to mount it for that purpose.
[06:23] <themusicgod1> i disabled everything in 'startup applications' but gnome still crashes, is there a l
[06:23] <themusicgod1> bah!
[06:23] <LinuxGuy2009> Arafangi1n: I didnt know I could access a drive without mounting it first.
[06:23] <GraphicRecursion> In Ubuntu Desktop theres a notification that pops up saying I need to install 3rd party drivers for full hardware functionality, how can I install these drivers if I'm using Ubuntu Server instead?
[06:23] <[R]> GraphicRecursion: just install them with apt-get
[06:23] <themusicgod1> anyway, linux do they not show up in ps -ax -H?
[06:24] <GraphicRecursion> [R] but what if I dont know what needs to be installed?
[06:24] <Arafangi1n> LinuxGuy2009: Oh, you can access a drive just by reading the raw bytes in /dev/whatever, but that's a bit awkward... To have those bytes formatted into a convenient file system, THAT is why you mount it.
[06:24] <[R]> GraphicRecursion: you can search with apt-cache
[06:24] <themusicgod1> j
[06:24] <Arafangi1n> LinuxGuy2009: But your virtual machine will want the raw bytes, so don't need to mount it.
[06:24] <GraphicRecursion> awesome sauce
[06:24] <saji89> linux, Try the 'top' command.
[06:24] <no--name> How can I get thumbnails for videos in my file browser?
[06:25] <LinuxGuy2009> Arafangi1n: I dont have a virtual machine going. Im using my Dell Mini netbook.
[06:25] <thune3> anlarye: i'm seeing if i can find something...
[06:25] <anlarye> ok thanks thune3
[06:25] <hersoy> hmw, Downloading is true
[06:25] <hmw> no--name: you should get them. If they are on a network drive, you need to tell Nautilus, that it should do thumbs there too. If it is local but not showing, youmight be lacking codecs.
[06:25] <Arafangi1n> LinuxGuy2009: I must be confusing you with hersoy.
[06:26] <no--name> hmw: is there a good codec pack for ubuntu?
[06:26] <hmw> hersoy: hmm. I don't know enough about virtual machines to be of real help in this case. :/ type the error message into google perhaps.
[06:26] <linux> saji89: on it
[06:26] <linux> themusicgod1: tryin that, too
[06:26] <thune3> anlarye: you hit "click to make changes", entered your passowrd, and the Properties button is un-greyed-out, right?
[06:26] <saji89> linux, Ok. tell me if it helps you.
[06:26] <GraphicRecursion> [R] apt-cache seems to search the avaiable packages, is there anyway I can have ubuntu server look for the 3rd party drivers I need automatically?
[06:26] <linux> saji89: of course :D
[06:26] <hmw> no--name: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:27] <[R]> GraphicRecursion: if it shows up in the restircted dialog... than its in the repos
[06:27] <no--name> hmw: thanks
[06:27] <AbhiJit> is there any way i can only list the currently listed 'application software' and reinstall it? i dont want automatic generat script for device driver or update etc only software e.g. gimp xchat etc
[06:27] <AbhiJit> anyone any clue?
[06:27] <AbhiJit> hepl?
[06:28] <sriramoman> is there any chat client that supports yahoo video+audio chat for *ubuntu?
[06:29] <LinuxGuy2009> Ah I ran dpkg-scanpackages with the wrong info. My bad
[06:29] <hmw> AbhiJit: you could use Synaptics Package Manager (System / Administration / Syn...), make it display "installed" apps (use the "status" button) and then select "reinstall"
[06:30] <GraphicRecursion> [R] Well heres the situation: I booted a live CD for desktop onto a machine that had server installed (that was to fix an unrelated problem). While using the live CD it showed the dialog saying there were resetricted drivers I could use. Obviously I dont want it to try to install those drivers while I'm using the live CD but do want to install them when Im actually logged into the OS (Ubuntu
[06:30] <GraphicRecursion> Server) installed on that machine's HDD.
[06:30] <[R]> GraphicRecursion: it says the name of the package in the dialog...
[06:30] <hmw> AbhiJit: "reinstall" to be selected for each package, right mouse button
[06:31] <GraphicRecursion> [R] awh poop I got to boot back in there, right down there names? I figured that whatever went and did the magic "finding" in desktop could be done on Server so I wouldnt have to boot into the live cd again ... cuz Im lazy, and frankly its a problem Id like to know how to solve from the command line
[06:31] <hersoy> hmw, yeah I've searched google, but I could not understand a thing
[06:31] <AbhiJit> hmw, thanks. i selected all of them with ctrl A
[06:31] <hmw> hersoy: same here :(
[06:32] <hmw> hersoy: you could find a VM-related forum perhaps
[06:32] <Trian3> Hey, quick (and easy) question...  If Ubuntu freezes up on me, how do I fix it?  IOW, what's the Task Manager equivalent?
[06:32] <aarcane> so uh..  on one of my servers, landscape broker is crashing without any relavent entries in the logs and no indication anywhere I can find as to why, then everything else from landscape is saying "the broker is crashing, so we're exiting,  bye"  and exiting.  what's wrong, and what can I try to do to fix it ?
[06:32] <Arafangi1n> Trian3: An actual freeze, or a dead application?
[06:33] <AbhiJit> Trian3, add force quit icon on your panel when some ap freezen click on that force icon button and click on that ap
[06:33] <Trian3> Arafangi1n:  This is CCSM.
[06:33] <Arafangi1n> Trian3: What's CCSM?
[06:33] <Trian3> So, yeah...  dead app (I guess)
[06:33] <Trian3> CompizConfig Settings Manager
[06:33] <hmw> Trian3: first you'd need to find the reason for the lockup. Can you still switch to a console with CTRL-ALT-F1? can you login from outside via ssh? does the num lock key change the LED on your keyboard? or is the machine _really_ frozen? check the log files in /var/log/syslog etc
[06:33] <Trian3> Ah, it seems I can.
[06:33] <GraphicRecursion> oh and thanks for the help earlier hmw
[06:34] <saji89> hersoy, It may be an eroor with the iso. MAybe its corrupt. Did you check that?
[06:34] <hersoy> open File Roller .iso --> i see only readme.txt "This disc contains a "UDF" file system and requires an operating system
[06:34] <hersoy> that supports the ISO-13346 "UDF" file system specification."
[06:34] <Arafangi1n> Trian3: If you're using Compiz, you may find that you hit driver bugs more frequently. :(
[06:34] <Trian3> hmw: switch to console, that is.
[06:34] <hmw> Trian3: then your Ubuntu didnt freeze on you, but perhaps Gnome. Switch back to Gnome (ALT-F7) and try ALT-F1 - does the top menu get selected?
[06:35] <AbhiJit> how to backup software sources list?
[06:35] <Arafangi1n> AbhiJit: What do you mean?
[06:35] <Arafangi1n> AbhiJit: (The sources list is so trivial that people don't often bother backing it up...)
[06:35] <icarus-c> hersoy, try to rename that .iso to  .udf  see what happen
[06:35] <saji89> AbhiJit, make a copy of the sources.lst file. That may be the easiest way, though I'm not sure.
[06:35] <hmw> AbhiJit: just backup the file /etc/apt/sources.list ??
[06:36] <Arafangi1n> saji89: It's sources.lst on ubuntu? Worst file extension ever!
[06:36] <Trian3> hmw:  Yes, top menu is selected.
[06:36] <AbhiJit> Arafangi1n, hmw saji89 i have so many extra ppa's added so in new install i want all that ppa's to be added.
[06:36] <hmw> Trian3: please describe, what exactly froze
[06:36] <Arafangi1n> AbhiJit: What's a ppa?
[06:36] <rww> !ppa
[06:37] <saji89> Arafangi1n, It was a typo. It is sources.list. Ty for noticing it.
[06:37] <GraphicRecursion> !ubottu
[06:37] <Trian3> hmw:  I was playing with one of the modules in CompizConfig Settings Manager -- Freely Transformable Windows, to be exact.  When I enabled one of the features, it appeared to froze.  Mouse wouldn't do anything except move around on screen.  It's locked in a closed-hand position, but I'm unable to click on anything.
[06:37] <saji89> AbhiJit, No problem. I think the PPA information also adds is there in the sources.list file.
[06:38] <AbhiJit> saji89, yah
[06:38] <Arafangi1n> saji89: Good. :)  grub used to use a '.lst' extension... Took me days before I realised the mistake I had made... I thought it was 1st!
[06:38] <linux> saji89: well, for the first time evAr, ubuntu froze :(
[06:38] <Arafangi1n> I'd blame the graphics driver there.
[06:38] <saji89> AbhiJit, But you would have to get the GPG key for the PPA, even if you have a sources.list file.
[06:38] <linux> saji89: since I don't have any super-valuable files, i'll salvage what i can and just do a fresh install :D
[06:39] <AbhiJit> saji89, ohh. how?
[06:39] <Arafangi1n> linux: Why would that fix anything?
[06:39] <saji89> Arafangi1n, YA the GRUB stuff is what confused  me. i uesed to make changes in it.
[06:39] <Trian3> Arafangi1n:  You're probably right.  surprising, though.  It's been very stable up until now.
[06:39] <AbhiJit> saji89, any automatic way
[06:39] <saji89> AbhiJit, I think you have to do it manully for each PPA.
[06:39] <AbhiJit> saji89, :(
[06:39] <hmw> Trian3: i see. If you can't kill the program due to a confused mouse, you can start a terminal via keyboard - ALT-F1 and enter "xkill" - then click the window, that is frozen. Tell me, if that worked.
[06:39] <Arafangi1n> Trian3: It's the main reason why I dont' bother with compiz.
[06:39] <hmw> Trian3: ALT-F2 sorry
[06:40] <Arafangi1n> hmw: With a confused mouse?
[06:40] <Trian3> hmw:  I don't know if I can kill it.  What's the best way to try to do that?
[06:40] <saji89> AbhiJit, One way for most popular PPA will be to install Ubuntu-Tweak.
[06:40] <Arafangi1n> hmw: Sounds tricky!
[06:40] <hmw> ALT-F2, "xkill", click window
[06:40] <linux> Arafangi1n: yeah, def.
[06:40] <Sterist> anyone got a link to 10.10's changelog?
[06:40] <hiexpo> killall
[06:40] <Sterist> or key features at;east
[06:40] <wrenny> hey where can I find Network Manager icon in Ubuntu
[06:41] <saji89> AbhiJit, LEmme see if tehre is any workaround.
[06:41] <Trian3> Can't type anything...  I believe because the menu up above is still selected
[06:41] <hmw> i somehow bound "ALT-BACKSPACE" to xkill... but how...!?
[06:41] <AbhiJit> saji89, ok
[06:41] <icarus-c> wrenny, you mean the icon picture file or the applet program ?
[06:41] <Sterist> wrenny Administration
[06:41] <Sterist> wrenny or Settings
[06:41] <hmw> wrenny: you can restart the network manager. You can start the applet with nm-applet
[06:42] <wrenny> i dont know
[06:42] <wrenny> this thing says to lick on the Network Manager icon, expand VPN Connections, and choose Configure VPN...
[06:42] <hmw> Trian3: deselect the menu with ESC
[06:42] <wrenny> click
[06:42] <saji89> AbhiJit, Which Ubuntu version do you use?
[06:42] <icarus-c> wrenny, you don't know what you actually want but expect us to answer?...
[06:42] <AbhiJit> saji89, lucid 64
[06:43] <st__> Sterist, less features, more bloat, more buzzwords, more bugs
[06:43] <sriramoman> anyone with a Toshiba laptop with acpi problems, pls query me if u face errors during booting *ubuntu. I will tell u how to install acpi and get all ur laptop features running fully!
[06:43]  * hmw imagines wrenny licking his screen *smirk*
[06:43] <anlarye> any luck there Thune3?
[06:43] <wrenny> so where is this icon
[06:43] <icarus-c> wrenny, normally, the NetworkManager icon (you meant applet here)  is on the gnome panel.
[06:43] <AbhiJit> sriramoman, why dont you document that ything in ubuntuforum?
[06:43] <Trian3> hmw:  Thanks.  Was trying everything (except that, of course)
[06:44] <saji89> AbhiJit, see the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list.d It seems to have a file per PPA you have added. MAybe if you take abackup of that and put it in the new system it may work.
[06:44] <icarus-c> wrenny, like other application's icon
[06:44] <AbhiJit> saji89, will try that
[06:44] <hmw> wrenny: the nm applet shows on the top panel, somewhere on the right side usually
[06:44] <icarus-c> in the Notification Area to be precise
[06:44] <saji89> AbhiJit, Okies.
[06:44] <Sterist> st__ referring to the beta?
[06:44]  * Arafangi1n wonders why Ubuntu persists with NM.
[06:45] <Trian3> hmw:  Not looking good.  xkill doesn't appear to do anything.
[06:45] <icarus-c> Arafangi1n, you suggest a better alternative?
[06:45] <AbhiJit> Arafangi1n, then waht to use?
[06:45] <Arafangi1n> Trian3: Confirmed grahpics issue. :(
[06:45] <Arafangi1n> icarus-c: wicd. :)
[06:45] <st__> Sterist, beta will not differ from final result much
[06:45] <icarus-c> Arafangi1n, wicd got far less feature comparing with NM
[06:45] <Trian3> So what now?  Hard reset?
[06:45] <hmw> Trian3: usually you get an x shaped mouse cursor. in your case, the cursor might not show, but still work. "try" to aim at the frozen window and do a left click. If that wont do, i can suggest another approach.
[06:45] <root_ninja> yo
[06:45] <wrenny> must be this up/down arrow thing on top
[06:45] <Arafangi1n> icarus-c: The features work, though...  What annoyed me with NM was I could never tell what mode it was in!
[06:46] <hmw> i liked wicd much more than NM
[06:46] <Sterist> st__ what features are to be "removed"? or could you link me to somewheres i can read up
[06:46] <AbhiJit> Arafangi1n, mode??
[06:46] <icarus-c> Arafangi1n, well, i agree that wicd  does better on what it does.  but NM provides more features
[06:47] <Arafangi1n> AbhiJit: There are different ways in which you can configure the network, but NM blurs them together, it's confusing.
[06:47] <Trian3> hmw:  Hmmm, looks like I can interact with the application via the keyboard, so it's just the mouse that's locked up.
[06:47] <icarus-c> Arafangi1n, when it comes to pick a default for EVERYONE, i still think that NM is a better choice yet
[06:47] <icarus-c> of course people could get rid of it and go wicd if they want to with ease
[06:47] <AbhiJit> Arafangi1n, hmm
[06:47] <hmw> Trian3: lets kill the X server. Do you have important data not yet saved in any window?
[06:48] <thune3> anlarye: i'd asked a follow up to make sure the basics were covered. I don't see anything, since all processes are launched when users-admin is invoked. I can only guess that the users you are trying to administer from do not have "admin" group and sudo privliges.
[06:48] <Trian3> mhw:  Well, I have a few things open, but nothing unrecoverable.
[06:48] <icarus-c> Trian3, just save them first, then kill X
[06:48] <rajmahendra> Can anyone tell me how to kill a applicatin which is not responding ?
[06:49] <anlarye> thune3: i'm doing it from my username which is a sudo user
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> rajmahendra:  'xkill' in a terminal, then click on the app, or the kill, or killall commands in terminal
[06:49] <icarus-c> rajmahendra, press alt-f2 ->  type "xkill"  -> click on the freezed app
[06:49] <Arafangi1n> icarus-c: It's possible that if I were to switch between differnet networks frequently - ie, as a university student toting around his laptop... I might prefer NM, I guess there isn't a clear answer. :(
[06:49] <Trian3> mhw:  I don't know how to get to them by keyboard alone.
[06:49] <hmw> Trian3: the "cool" way would to just kill the damaged process. For this you would switch to the console and use the ps command to find the PID and then use kill. The "simple" way is to brutally kill (restart) X - which can be done with ALT-SysRq(Print)-K - what shall it be?
[06:49] <Sterist> anyone here use a ASUS K50 NOTEBOOK ?
[06:49] <rajmahendra> Thank you
[06:50] <Arafangi1n> hmw: Or use killall, if you know the command name.
[06:50] <Trian3> I'll do easy now, and learn more about the "cool" way later.
[06:50] <Arafangi1n> hmw: That's the redneck approach, anyway.
[06:51] <anlarye> i'll be back later
[06:51] <xibalba> hey everyone, i use ubuntu as a router and i was wondering how could i port forward port 53 to a server i have in my data center?
[06:51] <xibalba> i've tried  ssh -L <IP_ADDRESS>:53:lethalnetworks.com:53<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:51] <hmw> Trian3: you should learn the "cool" method soon - its not really hard and makes more sense in many situations. Ask, if you wanna try it.
[06:52] <halvor> hello
[06:52] <hmw> !hi | halvor
[06:52] <Trian3> hmw:  Alright, that did the trick for now.  I'll make a note of the ps command and make sure to study up.
[06:52] <halvor> did anyone get the error message ""SIOCSIFFLAGS: unknown error 132" when trying to use wifi?
[06:52] <Trian3> Thanks for the help, good sir.
[06:53] <hmw> Trian3: i usually do: ps -A | grep WHATISEARCHFOR
[06:53] <halvor> i've never had such problem so far
[06:53] <AbhiJit> halvor, he does: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1311886
[06:53] <icarus-c> halvor, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1311886
[06:53] <icarus-c> hahaha quick google ftw
[06:53] <halvor> AbhiJit: thank you!
[06:53] <hmw> xibalba: that should be relatively easy. You could use the GUI app "Firestarter" to configure your firewall or make a script that utilizes "iptables" commands
[06:54] <icarus-c> halvor, learn to google for the error message
[06:54] <halvor> icarus-c: thank you too
[06:54] <AbhiJit> halvor, welcome
[06:54] <halvor> i'll try to keep that in minf
[06:54] <halvor> d
[06:54] <icarus-c> halvor, http://www.google.com/search?q=SIOCSIFFLAGS%3A+unknown+error+132
[06:54] <AbhiJit> halvor, google with this SIOCSIFFLAGS: unknown error 132 ubuntu
[06:55] <will> test
[06:55] <will> is there a way to tell Ubuntu to look in a secondary location for packages (instead of just /var/cache/apt/archives/)?
[06:56] <will> i think i screwed this up.  I'm gonna exit an come b ack...
[06:57] <will> Is there a way to tell Ubuntu to look in a secondary location for packages (instead of just /var/cache/apt/archives/)?
[06:57] <elricsfate> hi all
[06:58] <sacarlson> will: normally packages come from the online repositories
[06:58] <will> I know.
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> will:  not that ive noticed.. why are yoy trying to do this?
[06:58] <elricsfate> Anyone up for doing a little bit of reading?
[06:58] <TiK> reading?
[06:58] <elricsfate> TiK: Roger
[06:58] <icarus-c> will, maybe symbolic links
[06:58] <will> To quickly install downloaded packages when in LiveCD environment.
[06:58] <terminalvelocity> just installed ubuntu and somehow it has used 26GB of space and now there is none remaining to update the OS or install software.....any ideas?
[06:58] <sacarlson> will: would that not be a secound or 10th and up other places than /var/cache?
[06:59] <elricsfate> TiK: https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1FXQy07PLZ8ayMZXYEyic8q3zwoPyy8Je_Sx-oqkGA5I
[06:59] <TiK> elricsfate: reading what?
[06:59] <will> sacarlson: huh???
[06:59] <TiK> elricsfate: you wrote that?
[06:59] <elricsfate> TiK: Just some stuff I wrote for class
[06:59] <hmw> how can i make a machine let me login to gnome, when i only have ssh access (and the remote desktop not yet configured)?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> will:  on a network you could set up a machien to be the 'apt-cacher' server - it  could cache all packages for faster downloading to the rest of the lan.
[06:59] <Arafangi1n> terminalvelocity: 26GB?!?
[06:59] <magnetron> terminalvelocity: start the disk usage analyzer and see what's using all the space
[06:59] <sacarlson> will: you can add your own local repository that is serviced by apache
[06:59] <elricsfate> TiK: Yes. Give it a read. I also have a letter I wrote trying to convince my school to move to open source.
[06:59] <terminalvelocity> did that
[07:00] <terminalvelocity> only the OS
[07:00] <thune3> terminalvelocity: you sure the filesystem didn't encounter errors and get remounted read-only?
[07:00] <elricsfate> TiK: Let me get the link for that
[07:00] <Arafangi1n> terminalvelocity: Ok, what's taking up the space?
[07:00] <TiK> elricsfate: good luck i left it open ill read tomorrow
[07:00] <TiK> night
[07:00] <icarus-c> elricsfate, it seems to me all your arguments doesn't tell why Linux is better than other open source Unix-like OS
[07:00] <manuelbrs>  /msg nickserv register count10<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:00] <uLinux> lol fail
[07:00] <elricsfate> TiK: roger
[07:00] <manuelbrs> re fail
[07:00] <elricsfate> http://docs.google.com/View?id=dhf7nzmt_39c3pfqhgt
[07:01] <terminalvelocity> home 24.3GB
[07:01] <elricsfate> http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcgdpqm7_79c46bnpvx
[07:01] <elricsfate> icarus-c: good point.
[07:01] <terminalvelocity> thune3 im using it successfully
[07:02] <TurtleSoup> I need some help (who doesn't...), I opened up 81 workspaces just for the hell of it, and my system was not very happy at all. It reverted back to 36, and now that number is static, I can't change it (also, the "preferences" window for workspaces flickers). Now none of my windows have the bars around them with the X, minimize, maximize, etc. Any ideas?
[07:02] <terminalvelocity> Arafangiln ....home 24.3GB
[07:02] <elricsfate> icarus-c: This was mainly wrote to educate people who don't even know Unix or Linux exist. It may be a good idea to integrate what makes Linux better over something such as BSD or Solaris. You make a good point and I agree.
[07:02] <icarus-c> elricsfate, and you should make a clear contrast between Linux & Windows by also describing the Windows side
[07:02] <st__> elricsfate, learn paragraphs first
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:  title bar vanished = compiz or metacity crashed.. alt-f2 and do 'compiz --replace'
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:  which may explain the other issues also
[07:03] <TurtleSoup> Dr_Willis, thank you sir. I'll give it a try.
[07:03] <Arafangi1n> terminalvelocity: So your OS is only a few GB, then.
[07:03] <icarus-c> st__, he got paragraph. in this link https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1FXQy07PLZ8ayMZXYEyic8q3zwoPyy8Je_Sx-oqkGA5I&pli=1
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:  or try 'metacity --replace'
[07:03] <elricsfate> icarus-c: Roger. In which doc. The letter or the essay?
[07:03] <elricsfate> st__: In the essay or the letter?
[07:03] <Arafangi1n> terminalvelocity: Try getting more storage space and putting your... movies on that.
[07:03] <elricsfate> st__: One is a letter and one is an essay
[07:03] <icarus-c> elricsfate, the essay. i haven't read letter yet :P
[07:04]  * Arafangi1n can't imagine using 30 space for anything other than movies or photos.
[07:04] <Some_Person> Can anyone suggest a good app for WATCHING (not recording) over-the-air digital TV?
[07:04] <Arafangi1n> Some_Person: VLC is the standard answer, I think.
[07:04] <Some_Person> Arafangi1n: How do you change channels in VLC?
[07:04] <terminalvelocity> Arafangiln:  I just installed the OS ......to 30GB of unallocated space!!!!!!!
[07:04] <terminalvelocity> no movies
[07:04] <TurtleSoup> How new is this Alt-F2 thing to go to full-screen terminal? I haven't heard of it prior to last week.
[07:04] <icarus-c> elricsfate, i haven't finish reading the letter, but after reading a few sentences it seems that you assuming Free & Open Source Software in business come with NO cost?
[07:05] <elricsfate> icarus-c: Roger. I believe the other guy was talking about my letter which is block.
[07:05] <elricsfate> icarus-c: No it has cost but it would have LESS cost than our current setup I believe
[07:05] <Arafangi1n> terminalvelocity: Paste the output of df -h to some pastebin.
[07:05] <icarus-c> elricsfate,  and there is liability for FOSS in business
[07:05] <icarus-c> *liability issue
[07:05] <tannerld> anyone know how to fix the wifi of a inspiron mini with netbook ubuntu w/o internet access?
[07:06] <elricsfate> icarus-c: IMO I looked at not just my school but the whole system and saw a lot of waste.
[07:06] <icarus-c> elricsfate, like.. who to blame if you Linux/FOSS system fail?
[07:06] <DAGr8> hey can any1 help mewith this ? http://pastebin.com/8T4tmrg9  I am trying to make it 'less dirty
[07:06] <ihayden> hello every time i restart ubuntu i got this text login thing, is there a way i can get the gui login back?
[07:06] <Arafangi1n> icarus-c, elricsfate: I've found myself that having good support for your programs is easily worth a few grand.
[07:06] <icarus-c> elricsfate, with proprietary software, if the system fail the boss could only take it, but not fireing people
[07:06] <elricsfate> icarus-c: Who to blame if a Windows based system fails? Microsoft? No the IT. It would be the IT either way
[07:06] <DAGr8> hey can any1 help mewith this ? http://pastebin.com/8T4tmrg9  I am trying to make it 'less dirty so I also tried this but none of them work so whats wrong ?
[07:07] <elricsfate> Arafangi1n: There are quite a few companies that offer support for Linux.
[07:07] <Blue1> ihayden: try sudo service gdm restart
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> DAGr8:  at least summarize the problem to the channel.  people tend to not go to web sites to just read the actual problem.
[07:07] <Arafangi1n> elricsfate: What if you want support right now for some program that is rarely installed locally?
[07:07] <Blue1> Arafangi1n: patience is a virtue
[07:07] <icarus-c> elricsfate, after all, your arguments should be backed up by data & references to make it convincing
[07:08] <elricsfate> st__ icarus-c  Arafangi1n: The letter and the course over view are old. The goal I was trying to reach was not accomplished. I just thought I would post that along with the essay (which is new) since they were related.
[07:08] <DAGr8> Dr_Willis these are 2 lines pastebin :(
[07:08] <Arafangi1n> Blue1: I just want it to work so I can get on with my work!
[07:08] <Blue1> Arafangi1n: what progamme?
[07:08] <AbhiJit> is there any way i can see the total size of the pacakge i currently have installed?
[07:08] <Arafangi1n> Blue1: THe latest one I tried to play with was...  Hmm... Gitorious.
[07:08] <icarus-c> elricsfate, especially the letter,  business man needs numbers :)
[07:08] <TurtleSoup> Dr_Willis:  compiz --repalace "xterm Xt error: Can't open display: %s"  and metacity --replace "Window manager error: Unable to open X display". Not sure what these mean?
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> DAGr8: so?
[07:08] <DAGr8> Dr_Willis my problem is simple Im trying to echo bt only if a directory is not empty and I wanna do this with multiple directories
[07:08] <Arafangi1n> Blue1: On Centos.
[07:09] <DAGr8> bt/but
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:  sounds like something very weird crashed. it may be best to just reboot.
[07:09] <Blue1> Arafangi1n: I am not fam. with that one.
[07:09] <elricsfate> icarus-c: that was to a principal. Although I agree numbers should have been included in hindsight lol.
[07:09] <TurtleSoup> Dr_Willis, I've rebooted several times. The other users on the system work fine, just the one which tried to open 81 workspaces.
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> DAGr8:  i would say check the 'advanced scripting guide' for examples.
[07:09] <Arafangi1n> Blue1: It's a complex program, made more complex by the terrible choice of platform, that being Centos.
[07:09] <elricsfate> Arafangi1n: That can be a problem that applies both to windows and linux. What if you run into problems with a Windows program not commonly installed?
[07:09] <TurtleSoup> rather, just that one is messed up.
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:  perhaps its time to reset your desktop settings,. you could start with the panels.
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel | TurtleSoup
[07:10] <Arafangi1n> elricsfate: Indeed, but windows programs are less likely to be "opensource".
[07:10] <DAGr8> Dr_Willis andwhere is that guide ?
[07:10] <Blue1> Arafangi1n: what does it do?
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> !abs
[07:10] <Arafangi1n> Blue1: It's basically a competitor to GitHub.
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> DAGr8:  its in the repos.. or at the tldp.org site
[07:10] <ihayden> blue1: it didnt work it just flickered. and when i went to just restart (cntrl/alt/del) it set me back to the same thing.
[07:11] <thune3> terminalvelocity: you can use :: du -khsc * :: or :: du -khsc /home :: to check size of directories or ::  find /home -size +10M -printf "%k " -print :: to show you large files
[07:11] <st__> !ot
[07:11] <elricsfate> icarus-c: I agree on the essay though. I can back that up with some more data. I actually like the essay enough I may expand on it and use it later. It was actually just a 1 pager for english comp. I am thinking about burning some copies of Ubuntu to distribute in class along with the essays .
[07:11] <Blue1> ihayden: ctrl+alt+del?  I thought you were doing this at cosole:  ctrl+alt+f1
[07:12] <elricsfate> Arafangi1n: I agree but I don't understand where you are going with that.
[07:12] <Arafangi1n> elricsfate: It's really hard to set up!
[07:12] <Arafangi1n> elricsfate: Ended up paying thousands for a different product.
[07:12] <Topy44> my touchscreen works out of the box on ubuntu, but needs calibrating. how can i calibrate it?
[07:12] <TurtleSoup> Topy44, is there an option under System->Monitor or the like>
[07:13] <swiftarrow> Hi people!  I'm trying to control the mountpoint of an external drive.  Sometimes it mounts to LABEL, and sometimes to LABEL_ (underscore).  This is wreaking havoc with my backup system...  please help!  Thanks!
[07:13] <elricsfate> Arafangi1n: Your kidding me right? Windows can be JUST as complicated and cumbersome to setup as Linux and thats not including the product costs associated with most Windows products.
[07:13] <Topy44> no (i dont run gnome btw, i run openbox/lxde)
[07:13] <Arafangi1n> elricsfate: A few hundred per computer? Pfft, that's nothing.
[07:13] <ihayden> blue1: noo, its like a text login thing idk, but i cant get back on to my desktop
[07:14] <AbhiJit> is there any way i can see the total size of the pacakge i currently have installed?
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> ihayden:  try 'startx' after you login and see if X works..
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> ihayden:  if startx fails. then you have some X configuration issue going on. and thats why you are going to the console, instead of the Desktop
[07:14] <elricsfate> Arafangi1n: Your also not thinking about the other perks of using Linux over Windows in a large environment such as a school.
[07:14] <RealOpty> um how do i submit a patch for a package in ubuntu ?????
[07:15] <icarus-c> elricsfate, Arafangi1n: offtopic guys
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> !motu | RealOpty
[07:15] <Arafangi1n> I gotta head off anyway.
[07:15] <elricsfate> Arafangi1n: Better control over user accounts, less worry of virus's which was a MAJOR problem
[07:15] <TurtleSoup> Dr_Willis, no dice. Do you know if there's a way to set the number of workspaces via terminal?
[07:15] <elricsfate> icarus-c: see ya there
[07:15] <elricsfate> Arafangi1n: Roger. Goodnight. Was nice talking
[07:15] <Arafangi1n> Who's roger?
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:  its in a gconf setting somewhere.. personally i would reset all teh gnome settings by deleting the various .gnome* and .gconf* directories.. and start with a clean desktop
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:  there may be some '.compiz' directories somewhere also with settings for it.
[07:16] <icarus-c> Dr_Willis, i wouldn't nuke .gnome* ...
[07:16] <gdb> Arafangi1n: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_procedure
[07:16] <elricsfate> Arafangi1n: I am military. I use "Roger" a lot. Its habit.
[07:16] <st__> elricsfate, Linux has no means of controlling user accounts
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> I tend to clean out the .gnome* dir. :) i know what i want to keep
[07:16] <terminalvelocity> ran "autoclean" and reboot and now get "install problem" the config defaults for GNOME pow. mngr not correctly installed ...contact comp. admin.
[07:16] <gdb> st__: Huh?
[07:16] <icarus-c> Dr_Willis, they are mostly application settings
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> which is my torrent client settings.. thats about it..
[07:16] <elricsfate> st__: To continue the discussion head over to offtopic
[07:16] <Arafangi1n> elricsfate: Interesting. :)  I'm deaf, so I don't hear any of that stuff. :)
[07:16] <jwfoxjr> ok, so I've written this startup scipt and I don't understand why it's generating 2 process id's could someone take a look and provide some insight?
[07:17] <st__> policies? AD? lol
[07:17] <elricsfate> everyone interested for that matter head over to offtopic
[07:17] <TurtleSoup> Dr_Willis, if I nuke .gnome*, uh, what do I do after that? :\
[07:17] <gdb> st__: 389 directory server?
[07:17] <icarus-c> Dr_Willis, so just nuke your torrent client's config folder will do
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:  log out/back in - it should reset gnome back to the defaults.. you DO understand this will delete all your gnome settings...
[07:17] <elricsfate> Arafangi1n: haha. I dig. Well if you idle here much hopefully I will see you here. I am in #nethack quite a bit to
[07:17] <TurtleSoup> Dr_Willis, of course.
[07:17] <ihayden> dr_willis: it just give me a logg type thing, how will i know if it failed?
[07:17] <TurtleSoup> Just wasn't sure of any excess steps I'd be missing.
[07:17] <st__> LDAP server!=AD
[07:18] <AbhiJit> is there any way i can see the total size of the pacakge i currently have installed?
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:   the settings are  getting a bit scattered in ways these days.. but its better then it was years ago at least.
[07:18] <Arafangi1n> elricsfate: Awesome. I'm a lousy nethack player, but I do play it frequently. :)
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> ihayden:  startx failed.. if you dident get to the Desktop..
[07:18] <gdb> st__: Do you know what AD is?
[07:18] <jwfoxjr> http://pastebin.ca/1943988
[07:18] <Arafangi1n> elricsfate: (Lousey because I like to have a game in one sitting...  So I tend to be relatively risky)
[07:18] <gdb> st__: It's an LDAP directory server.
[07:18] <elricsfate> Arafangi1n: Freaking love nethack. I to am pretty awful. I actually just got it installed on my ben nano note with some work.
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:  i tend to use 'mc' from a console to clean out these things.   im not sure if removeing the settings while running gnome is that good an idea.
[07:19] <elricsfate> Arafangi1n: I am the SAME way.
[07:19] <gdb> Bah, forget it.  off-topic anyway
[07:19] <ihayden> dr_willis: i see. is there a way around this or do i have to reinstall ubuntu?
[07:19] <TurtleSoup> Dr_Willis, I've dropped to a terminal.
[07:19] <Balsaq> can someone explain how wubi works
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> ihayden:  you need to figure out why your X server is crashing and fix it.. reinstalling is 'windows thinking'
[07:20] <icarus-c> ihayden, is it you can't start X (GUI session) ?
[07:20] <icarus-c> ihayden, screen filcker
[07:20] <icarus-c> that's usually driver issue
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> Balsaq:  from what ive seen asked in this channel... some times it works not very well. :)
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> !wubi
[07:20] <Balsaq> yikes
[07:20] <icarus-c> ihayden, have you studied /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[07:20] <Balsaq> i installed it
[07:20] <elricsfate> Balsaq: It works alright for me
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> Balsaq:  i would reccomend a 'normal' ubuntu install over a wubi setup.
[07:21] <Balsaq> i dont understand how it works
[07:21] <Balsaq> it works good here
[07:21] <Balsaq> but i dont get it
[07:21] <elricsfate> Balsaq: Using it on my laptop until I get everything moved over from my Windows install.
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> Balsaq:  its booting from a 'file' on the hard drive. instead of a disk partition. is the basics of it.
[07:21] <Balsaq> looks like a dual install
[07:21] <Balsaq> but its not?
[07:21] <RealOpty> Dr_Willis, ty for info.
[07:21] <Jordan_U> Balsaq: Do you know what a loopback device is?
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> Balsaq:  thats the core of the it.
[07:21] <gdb> It mounts your filesystem as a loopback.
[07:21] <gdb> that's really all there is to it
[07:21] <elricsfate> Balsaq: As Dr. Willis said its similar to a dual boot but it does not have its own file system.
[07:21] <Balsaq> no Jordan_U
[07:21] <Jordan_U> Balsaq: (not in the networking sense)
[07:21] <WillPittenger> hmw: I am back.  New home folder didn't work.    Could something have happened during that?
[07:21] <Balsaq> elricsfate, i like it so far
[07:22] <Balsaq> but i really dont get it
[07:22] <Balsaq> doent seem to update anymore
[07:22] <gdb> Balsaq: Everything in Unix is a file.  Even your filesystem.  In the case of a loopback, the filesystem is contained inside a file in Windows.  That file (which contains your install Ubuntu system) is mounted as a loopback.  It's not a partition on a disk, it's a Windows file.
[07:22] <gdb> Balsaq: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_device
[07:22] <terminalvelocity> ?
[07:23] <ihayden> icarus-c it flickers when i use the "gdm service restart command" and i cant get to the gui part of things, i wouldnt know how to do that last partt
[07:23] <Balsaq> gdb, hmm thanks, is it better than a dual partition?
[07:23] <WillPittenger> Kevin`: I am back.  New home folder didn't work.    Could something have happened during that?
[07:23] <TurtleSoup> Dr_Willis, that did the trick! Thanks loads for your help, I appreciate it.
[07:24] <gdb> Balsaq: Well, it "shares space" with Windows, so I suppose in that sense it's better, but if the file is corrupted your SOL.  I don't use any sort of dual boot setups anywhere.
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:  the 'ubuntu-tweak' tool is supposed to have some sort of 'archive your settings' feature that lets you restore back to a known point. BUt ive not tried/seen the feature yet.
[07:24] <terminalvelocity> ?
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> TurtleSoup:  it would be nioce if therre was some tool included in ubuntu to let you reset the 'core' settings that often cause issues
[07:24] <icarus-c> ihayden, did it worked before?
[07:25] <Balsaq> gdb, what is SOL?
[07:25] <TurtleSoup> balleyne, shi* out of luck
[07:25] <Balsaq> o
[07:25] <gdb> Balsaq: Sh*t out of luck.
[07:25] <Balsaq> sheez
[07:25] <TurtleSoup> whoops
[07:25] <Balsaq> haha
[07:25] <TurtleSoup> Wrong person there. Damn tab.
[07:25] <Balsaq> wow i have a few dual booters
[07:25] <Balsaq> i am in harms way huh
[07:25] <balleyne> TurtleSoup: haha, I was actually watching that moment in the conversation anyways :)
[07:26] <gdb> Balsaq: A common use of loopback mounts is to mount an ISO image so you can access the files without burning it to a CD.
[07:26] <elricsfate> Balsaq: If you like it enought you want an actual dual boot there are guides to convert it over to such
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> !iso
[07:26] <ihayden> icarus-c: yes, before it would restart and everything would be normal
[07:26] <Balsaq> when i mount an OS can i make my own loopback?
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> Balsaq:  its a feature of the OS. so yes.
[07:27] <Balsaq> hmmm
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> Balsaq:  all sorts of neat loopback tricks you can do.
[07:27] <icarus-c> ihayden, do you did any thing special (related) before it happens
[07:27] <monokrome> Hey. If I need to migrate files from an old install from my encrypted home directory, will I be able to access the "Public" directory from in the mount on the other machine?
[07:27] <Balsaq> cos i have been doing full dual boot installs, it would be fun to try to create my own loopback instead
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> Balsaq:  i think you missunderstand what loopback is/does.. its a feature of the OS.
[07:28] <Balsaq> o isee so icant do it myself
[07:28] <icarus-c> monokrome, you can access the whole file system
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> Balsaq:  You are missunderatand what we are saying witht eh loopback stuff..
[07:28] <Gintulis> hi, how to change partition title on the desktop, partition „/data00„ (ext4), mountpoint „/media/data00„ on the desktop tilte is „507 GB file system”, i want that this title would „data00„
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> Balsaq:  you can easially 'use' the feature.. but thats not the same as 'making your own os'
[07:28] <el_ruso> help with squirrelmail
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> Gintulis:  use gparted and set its label. is how i normally do it.
[07:29] <icarus-c> Gintulis, e2label
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> Gintulis:  or tune2fs command.
[07:29] <terminalvelocity> I had to reinstall ubuntu lucid several times but used GParted to erase the partition each time before running install....and each time the installer froze for 20minutes at 83% (importing settings) or somthing like that and tells me upon startup that I have "install problem" and will not allow normal boot...rcovery mode only...I tried already burning a new copy of the iso but same results......HELP!
[07:29] <icarus-c> Gintulis, or tune2fs
[07:29] <monokrome> icarus-c: I am asking if the Public directory in my encrypted home directory is accessible without needing to use my encryption passphrase (which I don't know)
[07:29] <icarus-c> monokrome, NO
[07:29] <ihayden> icarus-c: i tryed to install updated before it happened but i kept getting errors when doing so
[07:29] <monokrome> oh
[07:30] <icarus-c> ihayden, what is your video card& driver
[07:30] <monokrome> then how can I get my passphrase?
[07:30] <icarus-c> monokrome, you tell me..
[07:30] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, if u stick windows in ther and use it to wipe it clean the buntu instal wil work easy
[07:30] <gdb> "Can I access encrypted data without decrypting it?"
[07:30] <gdb> :-P
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> What is with people loseing their passhrases?
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:30] <gdb> monokrome: Are you able to get to the data now by some method?
[07:30] <icarus-c> monokrome, you just asked "how can i get my password for e-banking"
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> post-it-notes to the rescue.
[07:30] <monokrome> gdb: I'm currently on the "old" system
[07:30] <at05gt> help i screwed up, i reinstalled vista on another drive and no Grub doesnt come up, i get Err2Err3 and it loads vista automatically
[07:31] <ihayden> icarus-c, as far as i know my vid card driver isnt supported? but my card is ati radeon x700 pro
[07:31] <gdb> monokrome: Then copy the data out of the encrypted volume to something .. not encrypted.  Do your install, and copy it back.
[07:31] <monokrome> icarus-c: No I didn't, because I'm already on the system that I want the passphrase for.
[07:31] <monokrome> gdb: I already did my install
[07:31] <monokrome> on a new HDD
[07:31] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq: good idea ..Ill try that.....but i thought that windows wont read or even register the ubuntu partition?
[07:31] <icarus-c> monokrome, that means you know the passphase ?
[07:31] <at05gt> if i use a live disk and delete windows will i get grub back?
[07:31] <jitu> any http expert here?
[07:31] <monokrome> icarus-c: No, because I need the encryptfs phrase not my user password.
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> at05gt:  no. if windows has overwritten the MBR then you need to write it back.
[07:32] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, yeah but it will sure wipe it clean
[07:32] <el_ruso> does anybody can help me with squirrelmail?
[07:32] <gdb> monokrome: If you do not have the passphrase and you are unable to access the encrypted data, then it's lost forever.
[07:32] <monokrome> gdb: I am accessing the encrypted data right now.
[07:32] <icarus-c> at05gt, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:32] <at05gt> DrWillis: if i delete windows will it boot back to Ubuntu?
[07:32] <icarus-c> at05gt, No.
[07:32] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, I noticed windows loves to g over top of buntu...and buntu loves to overwrite windows, makes for a nice clean install
[07:32] <gdb> monokrome: Then copy the data off of the encrypted partition while you have access to it and import it into an encrypted volume you plan to remember the passphrase for.
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> at05gt:  do you have the GRUB menu working now? if not.. deleting windows will NOT restore the old GRUB mbr.
[07:32] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq I only want to delete the UBUNTU partition
[07:33] <monokrome> gdb: I need to move it to my new private directory from my old private directory
[07:33] <at05gt> no grub on boot
[07:33] <Balsaq> oh so inthe end ur gonna have 2 OS's?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> at05gt:  then fix grub..
[07:33] <at05gt> am i screwed?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> !fixtrub
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[07:33] <gdb> monokrome: I guess I don't know what you're asking then.
[07:33] <Kevin`> at05gt: you have to fix grub. removing the OTHER bootloader will just mean you have nothing
[07:33] <icarus-c> at05gt, all you need to do is just follow that webpage i gave you..
[07:33] <icarus-c> at05gt, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:33] <at05gt> icarus-c: reading it now
[07:33] <monokrome> gdb: So, I am asking how I can get my home directory's passphrase so that I can write it down, reboot, and then use it to mount the data on the other machine.
[07:34] <etherealite> Can anyone tell me how to get the wine clipboard sharing with the x clipboard working?
[07:34] <icarus-c> monokrome, you don't get it... passphrase is the password used for encrypt your home directory
[07:34] <monokrome> icarus-c: I know. There's a way to get it if you're in the folder.
[07:34] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq: why would GParted be insufficient?
[07:34] <at05gt> i reinstall grub on the ubuntu partition yes?
[07:34] <monokrome> Ubuntu even tells you how when you first login.
[07:35] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, i just find that if i have problems like that, i use a diffenret distro to wipe out everything and then rebuild the partitons and start all over. i do windows 1st give it the whole thing then use buntu to make its partiton, why it works best for me i dunno
[07:35] <icarus-c> monokrome, no.  but you should have entered the passphrase on boot in order to mount it in the first place
[07:35] <Kevin`> at05gt: you don't need to completely reinstall grub, actually, just fix the mbr part. follow the instructions though.
[07:35] <monokrome> icarus-c: You don't get it.
[07:35] <at05gt> alright im going to save that page as an html doc and then open it once im in the live disk
[07:35] <Kevin`> monokrome: what mounted it
[07:35] <at05gt> as live i have no internet acces
[07:35] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, a distro of its own flesh in blood hates to go right over its own genetics
[07:35] <monokrome> Kevin`: It's a standard Ubuntu 10.04 install, and I encrypted my home directory
[07:36] <at05gt> Kevin`: 10.04 is grub 2 yes?
[07:36] <Kevin`> at05gt: yes
[07:36] <monokrome> I am currently logged in to that same installation and need to write down my encryptfs passphrase in order to mount the files on another partition.
[07:36] <at05gt> alright thanks all ill let ya know if i fix it or not
[07:36] <Kevin`> monokrome: I would expect that to use the user password, but I don't know for sure. I avoid stuff like that until I understand how it works, since you need to know to recover it ;p
[07:36] <icarus-c> monokrome, don't you know the passphrase for that partition?...
[07:37] <monokrome> Kevin`: Ubuntu tells you how to get your passphrase when you first login, but I forgot what commmand it said to use.
[07:37] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, i just did 4 windows/buntu dual installs...and this funky wubu one too
[07:37] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, even did a cool win2000 pro / pclinicos-lxde...really cool one!
[07:38] <icarus-c> monokrome, ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase ?
[07:38] <gdb> monokrome: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[07:38] <icarus-c> monokrome, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[07:38] <gdb> monokrome: There are instructions there on recovery.
[07:38] <icarus-c> dang
[07:38] <gdb> :D
[07:38] <xtc> is there a gui tool to manage virtual hosts (+/etc/hosts entries) under ubuntu?
[07:39] <monokrome> icarus-c: That did it.
[07:39] <monokrome> I was going to try that initially, but it wont let me tab those commands
[07:39] <monokrome> odd
[07:39] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, i like to run xubuntu 904 thru to wipe it all clean...then stick windows in there 1st and let the linuc distro of choice comein 2nd and use its partitoner to do the rest...works realy good for me.
[07:39] <icarus-c> monokrome, i google  ubuntu get passphrase
[07:39] <TiK> does anyone know if I can turn of 1 cpu completely until I want to turn it back on?
[07:39] <monokrome> icarus-c: see my last comment
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  Not really seen that feature in any OS other then the old 'BeOS'
[07:39] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq: thats all well and good but why then would ubuntu give me problems if i used windows to create the unall. space and then installed ubuntu successfully and only now it is giving me issues while trying to reinstall
[07:40] <TiK> Dr_Willis: oh ok thanks
[07:40] <icarus-c> TiK, why would you want that actually?
[07:40] <gdb> TiK: http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/cpu-hotplug.txt
[07:40] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, sounds like ur usinin buntu to wipe buntu too me
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  plus these systems with MultiCPU's are not always really multi-cpu like in the old days. so it may not even be possible
[07:40] <gdb> icarus-c: I'd guess a software licensing issue.  Only reason I can think of.
[07:40] <Kevin`> TiK: yes, you can
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> TiK:  why do you want to anyway? I doubt if you will save mich power over the system auto-power saving features.
[07:41] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq: did I mention that I have no startup disc for windows or i wouldn't be askind these questions
[07:41] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, oh ok
[07:41] <Kevin`> TiK: whether you get any real benefit from it depends how 'off' you make it, which depends on your cpu.
[07:41] <alaing> hi i've setup wireless on my server edition. It keeps losing the settings when I restart how do I save the settings so it automatically sets up a connection on bootup
[07:41] <at05gt> Kevin`: last question, ill still be able to use this vista partition once grub is fixed?
[07:41] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, wel maybe someone else can help then. sorry.
[07:41] <LinuxGuy2009> Does APTonCD have a known issue when you select a meta-package that not all of its dependencies are auto-selected when you choose that option?
[07:41] <alaing> I know i have to make chaneg to /etc/network/interfaces but not sure what needs to be changed/added
[07:42] <Kevin`> at05gt: yes. you will have to run update-grub to have it add a menu entry for windows though.
[07:42] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, which version of windows?
[07:42] <amanita_> Is there a way to pop in an empty hdd then migrate the installed ubuntu from the other hdd to the empty?
[07:42] <icarus-c> Dr_Willis, i read somewhere (maybe lesswatts.org) saying disabling a CPU core actually uses more than let them idle themselves
[07:42] <at05gt> Kevin`: or should i just dump the partition and run virtual box with an old XP disk?
[07:42] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq: Vista
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> icarus-c:  yep. i wouldent be suprised.
[07:42] <Kevin`> at05gt: it's up to you, either will work
[07:42] <Linux_Lord> Question...sometimes when i boot up my graphics goes all wonky then when i restart or login or logout it is once again all good. what could cause this?
[07:42] <gdb> I'm not sure that saving 3-4 watts is worth it.
[07:43] <icarus-c> amanita_, i would boot from live cd then rsync the old install to new hdd
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> icarus-c:  i saw this artical today on power saveing also --> http://www.linuxaria.com/article/granola-power-saving-linux?lang=en
[07:43] <at05gt> Kevin`: which will work better? the reason I need a windows os is cause i cant seem to get wine working to run the games i wann play
[07:43] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, did u do vista 1st?
[07:43] <Kevin`> at05gt: bare metal will work best for games
[07:43] <icarus-c> at05gt, seriously... it is just a command or so needed to fix the boot loader..
[07:44] <at05gt> icarus-c: i know im making a live disk as we speak
[07:44] <hobble> Hello, how to change xchat preferences? I don't see the links.
[07:44] <at05gt> Kevin`: whats bare metal?
[07:44] <AnAnt> Hello, I am using 64-bit Lucid, it was working fine, then suddenly I cannot login from GDM anymore, when any user tries to login, gdm just restarts. Yet I can login from the virtual console
[07:44] <icarus-c> at05gt, if you are talking about gaming,  virtual machine wouldn't be too suitable
[07:44] <Kevin`> at05gt: not in virtualization
[07:44] <st__> AnAnt, run out of disk space?
[07:44] <at05gt> Kevin`, icarus-c: so either keep the windows OS on a partition find a way to get wine working?
[07:45] <Kevin`> at05gt: yep
[07:45] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq: yes computer came with vista
[07:45] <solanki121> can anyone can tell me where header file for enable_irq(int irq) is located. In linux source code it is located in interrupt.h but i am unable to find on my pc
[07:45] <alaing> in the server edtion i want to install gnome-desktop. I did sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop. It fails and says it can't find the package
[07:45] <at05gt> Kevin`: thats what i figured
[07:46] <gdb> solanki121: I think you answered your own question. ;-)  It's in interrupt.h.
[07:46] <AnAnt> st__: on the contrary, I got much free space
[07:46] <SJr> Hmmmm My Ubuntu installation (kind of fresh) isn't booting. It just says /dev/sda2 clean, and then sort of hangs, if I hit ctrl+alt+del it will reboot.
[07:46] <vbgunz__> I got no answer in kubuntu about this but how do I change the theme of my gtk/gnome apps? Is there something I can install from gtk/gnome that will style my gtk/gnome widgets?
[07:46] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, so if it was on its original vista install the nmaybe the original vista hidden recovery console is still there?
[07:46] <solanki121> gdb: i cannot fing the header file interrupt.h on my pc that's why the problem
[07:47] <AnAnt> I tried logging using Failsafe Gnome & xterm, same thing, gdm just restarts
[07:47] <Kevin`> alaing: maybe you meant gnome-desktop-environment
[07:47] <piyushmishra> anyone plays age of empires 2 on ubuntu? plz tell me how did you installed it. I tried a lot of things, nothing worked really :(
[07:48] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq : I shrank windows and gave ubuntu 8GB swap and 30GB of unall. space and the ubuntu is telling me that there were install problem contact admin.
[07:48] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, if the original vista recovery partition isstill intact you in essence have a disk, in fact even better.
[07:48] <alaing> Kevin`: let me try that. sorry i'm new to the commandline so i could have it wrong
[07:48] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq: windows works fine
[07:48] <gdb> solanki121: Well, here's the thing, and please don't take this as rude.  You've identified that the information you need is in interrupt.h in the kernel source code.  It's not on your computer so what does that imply?  Perhaps that the kernel source code isn't on your PC.  So if you correct that problem, you'll find that interrupt.h comes along with that source code.
[07:48] <Kevin`> solanki121: the file should be in linux-headers
[07:49] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, when u shrink c drive, what happened to the recovery partition?
[07:49] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq: nothing
[07:49] <etherealite> How can I get the clipboar working in wine?
[07:49] <terminalvelocity> it is untouchable
[07:49] <Kevin`> you are supposed to immediately make a backup of those recovery partitions to dvd or such
[07:49] <Kevin`> since they can get messed up
[07:49] <icarus-c> at05gt, for windows gaming, i would just stick to Windows on bare metal
[07:49] <Kevin`> and no it's not untouchable, it should be pretty easy actually
[07:50] <alaing> Kevin`: tried that and it still cannot find it
[07:50] <at05gt> icarus-c: its WoW, DDO, and Torchlight
[07:50] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq:  ubuntu is also 26GB immediatly after install...?!?!?!?
[07:50] <Kevin`>  /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-24/include/linux/interrupt.h
[07:50] <solanki121> gdb: i need to compile a program on my pc which uses the function enable_irq, for which i need to include appropriate header file. i have included the reference for kernel source code to make it easier for you guys to answer
[07:50] <icarus-c> terminalvelocity, it is your /home that takes so much space right?
[07:50] <piyushmishra> at05gt did u try age of empires on ubuntu??
[07:50] <at05gt> icarus-c: wine wont run torchlight at all and i cant get DDO or WoW to install
[07:51] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, i must admit, when i did it, i did a clean install of windows from scratch 1st so if u did this on the original factory vista install...i havent done that
[07:51] <icarus-c> terminalvelocity, ubuntu OS itself should be just a few GBs
[07:51] <Jesdisciple> yay, now it works
[07:51] <Dizzo> Hello
[07:51] <Jesdisciple> hi =D
[07:51] <piyushmishra> at05gt did u try playonlinux?
[07:51] <Dizzo> Hi I am new!
[07:51] <solanki121> kevin: thanks but i searched a lot but could not find that's why asking her
[07:51] <piyushmishra> Dizzo: welcome to the club
[07:51] <at05gt> piyushmishra: it froze my machine
[07:51] <Jesdisciple> Dizzo: new to Ubuntu or IRC?
[07:52] <Dizzo> To both really
[07:52] <Dizzo> *sheepish grin*
[07:52] <piyushmishra> at05gt: :)
[07:52] <Jesdisciple> alright - double welcome then =p
[07:52] <Dizzo> I was wondering whether you can tell me what OS uses the Linux 2.6 Kernel?
[07:52] <Dizzo> is that a stupid q?
[07:52] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, what version of ubuntu?
[07:52] <alaing> Kevin`: my server edition is a clean install so it might not have the right settings
[07:52] <at05gt> piyushmishra: yes there was much cursing and throwing of objects
[07:52] <piyushmishra> at05gt: I love age of empires :( too bad I cant play that on ubuntu
[07:52] <alaing> Kevin`: it is connected to the net
[07:52] <at05gt> piyushmishra: you ever played Civ?
[07:53] <terminalvelocity> icarus-c: right
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> Dizzo:  most disrtos these days use 2.6.*
[07:53] <Jesdisciple> Dizzo: the Linux kernel is an operating system, and many distributions or "distros" are built on top of it
[07:53] <piyushmishra> at05gt: is there any minimal installation of windows which you knw of? so that I can play age on that :P
[07:53] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq: lucid
[07:53] <Jesdisciple> Ubuntu is a Linux distro
[07:53] <at05gt> piyushmishra: XP SP2
[07:53] <jackc> Hey guys ever heard of jolicloud
[07:53] <Dizzo> Dr_Willis: Would Ubuntu 10.4 be one of those distros?
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> jackc:  yes we have. they have their own support room/areas
[07:53] <jackc> where?
[07:53] <at05gt> piyushmishra: more stable then Vista, and it uses less resources
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> Dizzo:  err.. yes.
[07:53] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, did you...1. choose the correct file system for buntu? did u check off the format box? did you use the correct mount choice?
[07:53] <Kevin`> Dizzo: very few os's use 2.4 or earlier kernel's these days
[07:54] <piyushmishra> at05gt, hmmm how do I install it parallel to ubuntu? anything like reverse wubi ?
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> jackc:  check their homepage/facebook page. I dont recall. I dident like it. :)
[07:54] <terminalvelocity> Jesdisciple: thank you for those words of wisdom
[07:54] <Jesdisciple> Dizzo: yes, Ubuntu is one - others are Debian, Fedora, Slackware, and the list goes on
[07:54] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, and did u make a swap and format
[07:54] <at05gt> piyushmishra: how many hard drives you got?
[07:54] <Dizzo> Ok cool!
[07:54] <Dizzo> Thanks!
[07:54] <Kevin`> piyushmishra: there is nothing like reverse wubi for windows. you need a seperate partition for it
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> Dizzo:  i cant think of a disrto thats NOT using 2.6.*
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> Dizzo:  why does this matter?
[07:54] <piyushmishra> at05gt I got two but I think the other one has crashed. ubuntu wont load it at all. m not sure
[07:55] <at05gt> piyushmishra: you never want to install 2 OS on the same partition, they will be like 2 dogs circling in the park, very bad mojo
[07:55] <terminalvelocity> Balsaq: ext4 ...check, and mount to / ....yes
[07:55] <Dizzo> Dr_Willis: the reason I am asking is because I bought a Wireless N-Adapter (USB) that says it supports Linux 2.4 and 2.6, but when I inserted the Installation CD, I couldn't get it to work??
[07:55] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, when i did it, i chose ext4 for lucid, checked off the format box, make a 2 gig swap partiton and chose / for mount
[07:55] <Dizzo> Am I doing something wrong?
[07:55] <xuekan> last night in the dream,I always felt that RedHat is better than ubuntu,I cann't help thinking about this till the morning.so weird.
[07:55] <piyushmishra> at05gt I knw and thts why I want soemthing to run age on ubuntu :(
[07:55] <Dizzo> should I be doing something in the terminal?
[07:56] <terminalvelocity> Jesdisciple: a hacker you will be......pure genius
[07:56] <at05gt> piyushmishra: ya i cant help ya there i cant even get WoW to run on Wine lol and its supposed to be perfect together
[07:56] <Kevin`> Dizzo: you probably don't need the cd for it, there's a good chance the driver is available from ubuntu itself. however, if you do need to use the driver on the cd, you would likely have to install it from the terminal yes
[07:56] <Dizzo> Hmmm
[07:56] <Dizzo> How would I do that...?
[07:56] <piyushmishra> at05gt how do i do it tell me
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> Dizzo:  2.4 hasent ben used in several years.
[07:57] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, u did not mention doing a swap partition and u must make sure the grub box was checked too
[07:57] <at05gt> piyushmishra: i dont know im sorry
[07:57] <at05gt> i bid you all adieu for a few minutes while i go kick grubs butt
[07:57] <Dizzo> Kevin': I basically clicked on autorun.exe
[07:57] <Dizzo> and there was an error!
[07:57] <Dizzo> I didn't understand
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> Dizzo:  and you normally DONT use teh files from the cd.. thats windows thinking.. the drivers should be included in the disrtubutuin you install
[07:57] <Kevin`> Dizzo: .exe files are for the windows stuff
[07:57] <DaveWM> Dizzo: pm me if you want,  i'm not busy,  i can guide you through a little if you want
[07:57] <Kevin`> Dizzo: what else is on the ocd
[07:57] <piyushmishra> at05gt uaaan uaaaan :'(
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> Dizzo:  take the cd.. put it on a shelf.. and forget about using the stuff on it. :)
[07:57] <icarus-c> Dizzo, All Linux distributions run on Linux :)
[07:57] <Dizzo> HAHA
[07:57] <Dizzo> thanks!
[07:57] <terminalvelocity> swap does not allow to check for format and grub works fine
[07:58] <piyushmishra> Dizzo : lol
[07:58] <vbgunz__> I am using kubuntu. anybody know how I can get the human theme to take on my KDE colors?
[07:58] <piyushmishra> Dizzo: almost every win app has an equal/better ubuntu version
[07:58] <Kevin`> you can run .exe files in linux using wine, but there's no point for driver files usually ;p
[07:58] <Balsaq> terminalvelocity, well i noticed i had issue w/ another linuc distro until i di format swap
[07:58] <icarus-c> Dizzo, on most Linux distributions, you don't need drivers CD supplied with the hardware.  it all comes with the system
[07:59] <alaing> I'm trying to run apt-get update but everythign is failing any idea?
[07:59] <amanita_> ok, I have feh, eog, and gthumb image viewers in gnome. Whenever I switch to gthumb or feh to be the default viewers in nautilus it won't remember the settings and new pngs displayed with eog when clicking on it
[07:59] <ziroday> alaing: got an error message?
[08:00] <amanita_> Also trying to remove eog in synaptic want to remove the whole ubuntu-desktop
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> amanita_:  ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package. it wont hurt to remove it
[08:00] <jitu> anybodu know about mono-xsp2
[08:00] <jitu> ?
[08:00] <icarus-c> amanita_, right click on the image file -> properties -> Open with
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> but nautilus should be rembering the settings..
[08:00] <icarus-c> amanita_, select gthumb there
[08:00] <Kevin`> amanita_: nah, it just wants to remove the "ubuntu-desktop" package. because you no longer have all of ubuntu-desktop installed. it's fine
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> amanita_:  i just reorder the list so the one i like is on top (i think)
[08:01] <amanita_> icarus-c: I did it, but right clicking is not the way I want to view images
[08:01] <icarus-c> amanita_, after you select the right open with action,  you can just double click
[08:02] <amanita_> icarus-c: won't work at all it still uses eog
[08:02] <icarus-c> amanita_, how did you select application in Open With?
[08:04] <jitu> amanita , click in the circle beside
[08:04] <amanita_> icarus-c: trying to translate, right click on a png -> open with -> other application -> choose feh or gthumb from the list, check the widget to remember settings for png files
[08:04] <icarus-c> amanita_, make sure you have really selected the app you want (a dot in the circle)
[08:04] <icarus-c> amanita_, not just make the app appear in the list nor click on the name
[08:05] <AnAnt> Hello, I am using 64-bit Lucid, it was working fine, then suddenly I cannot login from GDM anymore, when any user tries to login, gdm just restarts. Yet I can login from the virtual console. Also gdm restarts if I attempt to login with Failsafe Gnome session or xterm session
[08:05] <jitu> xsp2?
[08:05] <jitu> ????
[08:05] <jitu> anybody?
[08:05] <sarah__> I'm here
[08:05] <amanita_> jitu: there is no dot and circle there
[08:06] <jitu> amanita, you have to click on the circle to have the dot
[08:06] <amanita_> jitu: there is a square checkbox
[08:06] <jitu> r u in the open with tab?
[08:06] <amanita_> jitu: yes
[08:07] <jitu> there is a big white box
[08:07] <amanita_> jitu: whatever I choose, it uses eog
[08:07] <jitu> showing a list of apps
[08:07] <jitu> ?
[08:07] <amanita_> jitu: I know.
[08:07] <amanita_> jitu: I use ubuntu linux since 6.04
[08:08] <jitu> is there some circles beside the list items
[08:08] <jitu> ?
[08:08] <amanita_> jitu: no circles at all
[08:08] <jitu> is it lucid?
[08:08] <swiftarrow> Hi everyone!!! DVD question: Is there any way to bypass the regions in DVDs?  My drive is set to region 1, and I want to watch something from region 2.  I'm thinking some software like AnyDVD...
[08:09] <amanita_> jitu: it is 10.04 fresh install
[08:09] <icarus-c> amanita_, like that http://ompldr.org/vNWt6OA/Screenshot-133.png
[08:09] <alaing> ziroday: yes it says Err <url> temporary failure resolving gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:09] <ziroday> alaing: you connected to the internet?
[08:10] <amanita_> icarus-c: my window looks totally different dude, no tabs at all and no circles or add-remove buttons :-(
[08:10] <ziroday> alaing: and have you edited your /etc/apt/sources.list lately?
[08:10] <icarus-c> amanita_, are you using GNOME ...
[08:10] <Jesdisciple> amanita_: maybe you should also post a screenshot?
[08:10] <amanita_> icarus-c: yes
[08:10] <alaing> ziroday: I can ping google and my server edition is a clean installation so I've not made any changes to the source.list
[08:11] <ziroday> alaing: what version of ubuntu?
[08:11] <alaing> server edition 10.04
[08:12] <jitu> anybody know about xsp2?
[08:12] <jitu> mono?
[08:12] <icarus-c> alaing, malfunctioning DNS server?
[08:13] <alaing> ??
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> ping gb.archive.ubuntu.com  --> 64 bytes from ubuntu.datahop.net (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_req=3 ttl=51 time=121
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> thats... odd...
[08:13] <alaing> my machien was workign perfectly on desktop edition
[08:13] <icarus-c> alaing, so you can ping  google.com ?
[08:13] <alaing> Dr_Willis: let me ping that
[08:13] <icarus-c> alaing, can you   "host gb.archive.ubuntu.com"  ?
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> whats this datahop thing? some sort of round robbin/load shareing?
[08:14] <amanita_> icarus-c: my png settings http://ompldr.org/vNWt6OQ
[08:14] <FusionX> Guys help plz! -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577543
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> FusionX:  give a summary of the issue.
[08:14] <icarus-c> amanita_, you are doing  Right click -> Open With  instead of  Right click -> properties -> open with
[08:15] <at05gt> alright grubs back up and i can log in but it doesnt see the new windows OS, i need to update it now?
[08:15] <icarus-c> amanita_, Properties should be the menu entry at the bottom when you right click
[08:15] <AbhiJit> how to move xchat tabs?
[08:15] <amanita_> icarus-c: *facepalm*
[08:15] <no--name> I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and still no thumbnails for mpgs in nautilus
[08:15] <Kevin`> at05gt: yes, run update-grub
[08:15] <amanita_> icarus-c: ok I got it.
[08:15] <FusionX> Dr_Willis : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577543
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> FusionX:  give a summary of the issue. Im not going to a forum/web page to read a problem that i may have no info on ...
[08:16] <icarus-c> amanita_, you may need to do that for different image format at first
[08:17] <amanita_> icarus-c: it is highly messed up, users first see the open with menu, and there is the option to link filetypes with apps
[08:17] <icarus-c> no--name, first open a terminal and enter "totem-video-thumbnailer"
[08:17] <alaing> icarus-c: maybe my wifi connection was lost. shouldnt the connection reconnect if lost? I can ping google and ubuntu.com
[08:17] <sburwood> I have a film that I downloaded.  If I use the headphones, it works.  Why don't the speakers work?  They normally do work
[08:17] <jitu> the is also a remember option which should work
[08:18] <AbhiJit> !sound | sburwood
[08:18] <icarus-c> no--name, does it show command not found  or the help message?
[08:18] <no--name> icarus-c: yes
[08:18] <icarus-c> no--name, help message?
[08:18] <no--name> oh sorry
[08:18] <no--name> help message, yeah
[08:19] <alaing> icarus-c: i can host gb.achive.ubuntu.com
[08:19] <alaing> but i cant do sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment
[08:19] <icarus-c> no--name, is the mpg video stored on local hdd ?
[08:19] <alaing> it recons it cant find  the package
[08:20] <no--name> icarus-c: yes
[08:20] <no--name> well, it is a vm
[08:20] <no--name> but i have the same problem on my host
[08:20] <sburwood> AbhiJit: ok.  That annoys me and I'm a n00b, so I hope I can accomplish the tests
[08:20] <icarus-c> no--name, now run  run "gconf-editor"
[08:20] <no--name> ok
[08:21] <no--name> in
[08:21] <AbhiJit> sburwood, hmm
[08:21] <AbhiJit> :/
[08:21] <icarus-c> no--name, navigate to /desktop/gnome/thumbnailers/video@mpeg
[08:21] <alaing> ok apt-get update seems to be working now to try install gnome desktop on my server edition
[08:21] <icarus-c> no--name, is  the "enabled" key set to true?
[08:22] <icarus-c> no--name, and  "command" key is /usr/bin/totem-video-thumbnailer -s %s %u %o
[08:22] <jitu> abhijit r u connecting your headphone n speaker on same port?
[08:22] <AbhiJit> jitu, it was not my problem its his problem
[08:22] <no--name> "enabled" is ticked
[08:22] <FusionX> Dr_Willis the display is crashing
[08:22] <no--name> "command" value is /usr/bin/totem-video-thumbnailer -s %s %u %o
[08:23] <jitu> srry, forwarded
[08:23] <icarus-c> no--name, um....  is there thumbnails for some video files?
[08:24] <alaing> eveythign seems to be installing now
[08:24] <no--name> icarus-c: nope
[08:25] <icarus-c> no--name, can you play those video files without thumbnails?
[08:25] <no--name> icarus-c: i can play them fine
[08:25] <no--name> only problem is no thumbnails in nautilus
[08:26] <icarus-c> no--name, no thumbnails even for things like image file?
[08:26] <icarus-c> no--name, can you check in Nautilus :  Edit -> Preferences -> Preview
[08:27] <icarus-c> no--name, show thumbnail is set to  Local FIles only  or  Always
[08:27] <icarus-c> no--name, if they are,  make sure you have the ~/.thumbnails directory & you have read/write permission to
[08:27] <Ghag> I need a java runtime enviroment 1.5.0 or higher, anyone got one?
[08:28] <AbhiJit> !java > Ghag
[08:28] <icarus-c> Ghag, you need to install either openjdk6 or jre
[08:28] <Ghag> icarus-c any of the, uhm, done through the ubuntu package manager/
[08:28] <jitu> Ghag go to sun's site
[08:29] <icarus-c> (openjdk-6-jre  OR  sun-java6-jre  if i remember correctly)
[08:29] <icarus-c> Ghag, yes you can install from packaage manager
[08:29] <jitu> Ghag: http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp
[08:30] <Ghag> so do i use the snyaptic manager or the normal updater?
[08:30] <icarus-c> jitu, why would you do that when there is ubuntu package available on the repo?
[08:30] <icarus-c> Ghag, synaptic
[08:30] <Ghag> what would it be under?
[08:31] <jitu> sun one is most updated
 no--name, no thumbnails even for things like image file?
[08:31] <kuttan_> Hello folks , am looking for a small wiki app. Requirement: should store data in users home-dir. Some  minimal app ? Suggestions - Thanks { No not Tomboy/Zim please }
[08:31] <no--name> i get thumbnails for images, but not videos
[08:31] <icarus-c> Ghag, i'm not sure, not at ubuntu at the moment.
[08:31] <icarus-c> Ghag, you could search
[08:32] <jpds> Dr_Willis: Datahop is a network service provider.
[08:32] <jpds> Dr_Willis: See: http://www.datahop.net
[08:32] <Ghag> Okay, here icarus-c http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ZVyjUmKL
[08:33] <Katsumi32> good mourning
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> jpds:  ok. :) never heard of them