[21:56] <MichealH> takamarou: Ahh, Okay Do you have a mem stck?
[21:56] <JeffJassky> aut0exec, so I did sudo diskutil mountDisk /dev/disk3 and it mounted sucessfully. However - still no changed in my "erase" tab
[21:56] <takamarou> MichaelH, I never uninstalled ath5k, to my knowledge, so it should already be here I would think
[21:56] <takamarou> Michael, yeah I've got one.  I just thought the files would already have been on my system
[21:57] <Aut0ExeC> hmmm
[21:57] <MichealH> takamarou: It may just need reconfiguring so reinstalling it from a .deb downloaded from annother computer will do
[21:57] <Aut0ExeC> thats crazy bro
[21:57] <Aut0ExeC> i would suggest using command line
[21:57] <Aut0ExeC> mkfs
[21:57] <Aut0ExeC> regardless
[21:57] <FloodBot3> Aut0ExeC: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:57] <ChogyDan> any recommendations for a video editor other than pitivi?  Is blender usable for someone just getting started?
[21:57] <takamarou> MichaelH, gotcha.  You don't happen to know the link by heart?  If not I can just google around for it
[21:57] <MichealH> takamarou: One sec
[21:57] <matts45acp> can someone help me get my sound working with games
[21:58] <tranqui> how do I allow remote desktop connections over the internet? (only allows local connections atm)
[21:58] <proxx> Do you have portforwarding ?
[21:58] <ChogyDan> matts45acp: what games?
[21:58] <tranqui> I've forwarded port 5900
[21:59] <tranqui> the default
[21:59] <Petfrogg> what is the default soundserver in ubuntu 10.10? pulseaudio?
[21:59] <MichealH> takamarou: Was it ath5k?
[21:59] <ChogyDan> matts45acp: I'm just curious which ones
[21:59] <ama> Is there a similar program to wine? for ubuntu?
[21:59] <ChogyDan> Petfrogg: yes
[21:59] <mrb_> Isnt rdp 3980 som smth?
[21:59] <takamarou> MichaelH, I belive so, yes.
[21:59] <christoz> hello, i cant understand why adobe flash player crashes all the time in ubuntu 10.10
[21:59] <takamarou> MichaelH, for an Atheros card
[22:00] <LazRa> wine crossover and cedega
[22:00] <Petfrogg> ChogyDan: thanx - any suggestions on a good equalizer for that one?
[22:00] <MichealH> takamarou: What disto are you using? 10.04? 10.10?
[22:00] <proxx> try to use other flash plugins for firefox, flash always sux on linux due to bad support
[22:00] <woofthing> i take it there is no hope for my problem?  ubuntu 10.10 is useless for me if the desktop restarts/refreshes constantly after loading.
[22:00] <takamarou> MichaelH, 10.04
[22:00] <exalt> hello how can i make this action automated in an starter icon: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/jni && arduino
[22:00] <ama> ok thx LazRa
[22:00] <JeffJassky> Thanks, guys. I got it figured out by formatting with terminal instead of disk utility.
[22:00] <ChogyDan> Petfrogg: dunno, I think there are a few pulse tools, the package names start with pa
[22:01] <mrb_> Tranqui: 3389 then?
[22:01] <LazRa> #quit
[22:01] <Petfrogg> thanx
[22:01] <NoMoreNicksLeft> Can I install GRUB and only GRUB from an Ubuntu live CD?
[22:01] <VCoolio> exalt: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=blah arduino
[22:01] <tranqui> mrb_: I'll try but why 3389?
[22:01] <christoz> proxx, i'm using adobe's binaries, can you suggest me some plugins to use?
[22:02] <proxx> moment ill look it up
[22:02] <mrb_> Windows servers and machines busshpl that på their def. Port
[22:02] <avo> What's up with the ubuntu repo servers?
[22:02] <avo> My download isn't budging past 20kbps..
[22:02] <mrb_> Use that*
[22:02] <takamarou> MichaelH, I think I found it. http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download  Thanks for your help
[22:03]  * mrb_ is chatting from an android phone
[22:03] <MichealH> takamarou: Im struggling to find it at packages.ubuntu.com I would just search around...
[22:03] <cablop> WTF!.... ubuntu was not booting just cause a partition in fstab was not present... but the STUPID thing, is WHY ubuntu does not tell me the problem!!!!
[22:03] <takamarou> MichaelH,  Thanks a lot.  I appreciate all your help.
[22:04] <cablop> that plymouth thing is pretty stupid... they switched the whole old behavior in favor of a splashy thingy
[22:04] <cablop> :(
[22:04] <proxx> i use FlashVideoReplacer instead of flash
[22:05] <proxx> works quite nice
[22:05] <guntbert> cablop: please cool down and mind your language
[22:05] <proxx> also in fullscreen
[22:05] <cablop> spalashy is not a bad word, lol
[22:05] <galoisfield> takamarou : if that package is already there in ur filesystem,why don't you use "locate" ,reconfigure and install it?
[22:05] <cablop> can we edit the new gdm in 10.10?
[22:05] <exalt> VCoolio, LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/jni arduino returns directory of file does not exist while the promt from terminal does the job
[22:05] <tranqui> mrb_: 3389 hasn't made any difference, I'm connecting ubuntu to ubuntu anyways so that port shouldn't be in use
[22:06] <takamarou> galoisfield, I don't know where that package is, or what it's called.  I just know that ath5k comes installed out-of-the-box with Ubuntu...  I installed madwifi overtop of it, and now don't know how to renenable ath5k
[22:06] <Jef91> So I have a picture in /usr/share/icons
[22:06] <Jef91> but when I set the icon value to the image name in a .desktop file there is no image there
[22:06] <Jef91> ideas?
[22:06] <Bilz> so I want to ssh a file from a remote linux machine to my machine. there are plenty sites on the net for sending from my machine to another, but i want it the other way round. how?
[22:07] <kaco> hello
[22:08] <galoisfield> takamarou: oh..ok..you could have also found that ath5k package in ur iso(if you have one) right..actually mine is a broadcom one..so don ve much idea abt it..
[22:08] <pr0xy> I'm having some issues with the linux 2.6.35-22 kernel.
[22:08] <thechitowncubs> pr0xy: ok...
[22:08] <mrb_> Tranqui: cant really check from my phone i'm afraid. I can just recommend checking traceroutes/routing, recheck config, etc
[22:09] <guntbert> Bilz: its alway scp source destination , ie scp remoteuser@remotehost:path/to/file local/destination/path
[22:09] <undecim> In shell scripts, I know you can use `` to run a command and replace that text with the output, but there is a more readable way to do it that I can't remember. What is it?
[22:09] <JoeCoolDesk> How do I make a command that I can use?
[22:09] <JoeCoolDesk> Like an alias that can take input?
[22:09] <guntbert> undecim: $( ... )
[22:09] <Anti-EthicalHack> #backtrack-linux
[22:09] <JoeCoolDesk> Or how do I take input with an alias?
[22:09] <undecim> guntbert: That's it. Ty
[22:09] <ajsie> is there a channel for talking about domains?
[22:09] <Anti-EthicalHack> hi guys i have problem
[22:09] <Anti-EthicalHack> with
[22:09] <undecim> JoeCoolDesk: Make a function
[22:09] <Anti-EthicalHack> my localhost
[22:09] <pr0xy> thechitowncubs, when I start kubuntu with that kernel, I just get a bunch of weird colored rectangles.
[22:09] <Anti-EthicalHack> i have install phpmyadmin
[22:09] <VCoolio> JoeCoolDesk: write a function or create a little script
[22:09] <Anti-EthicalHack> but its not work
[22:09] <JoeCoolDesk> How?
[22:09] <FloodBot3> Anti-EthicalHack: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:09] <ChogyDan> !enter | Anti-EthicalHack
[22:10] <takamarou> Anti-EthicalHack, put your entire message on one line
[22:10] <Anti-EthicalHack> any one can help me
[22:10] <Anti-EthicalHack> i have install phpmyadmin in localhost but its not work
[22:10] <VCoolio> JoeCoolDesk: function () { blah $1 $2 }   like that with $1 and $2 as first and second argument
[22:11] <Anti-EthicalHack> imusing backtrack
[22:11] <JoeCoolDesk> Vcoolio, where do I put that?
[22:11] <guntbert> !backtrack | Anti-EthicalHack
[22:11] <VCoolio> JoeCoolDesk: in .bashrc for example
[22:11] <kaco> what is ubuntu?
[22:11] <proxx> an animal
[22:11] <takamarou> kaco, awesome.
[22:11] <guntbert> !ubuntu | kaco
[22:12] <Bilz> thanks guntbert , worked perfectly
[22:12] <proxx> some african animal :)
[22:12] <tranqui> plus it's shiny :O
[22:12] <kaco> sorry i mean the word
[22:12] <ChogyDan> Anti-EthicalHack: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/phpMyAdmin
[22:12] <guntbert> Bilz: you're welcome :-)
[22:12] <undecim> JoeCoolDesk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/516478/
[22:12] <guntbert> !ot | kaco
[22:13] <pr0xy> I'm having some issues with the linux 2.6.35-22 kernel.   I may be trying to re-image the ISO but cant make significant changes to the computer I am currently using.  Such as removing the linux partition without an XP repair disk.  Thank you
[22:15] <xmad> pr0xy: What video card do you use?
[22:16] <nation> i have a few questions for you
[22:17] <nation> first how do i bridge networks a wireless and a wired
[22:17] <pr0xy> xmad, I have a GT240 from EVGA
[22:17] <nation> and another is what is a good firewall
[22:18] <xmad> pr0xy: That's nvidia right? are you using the propietary driers?
[22:18] <Black_Prince> !java
[22:18] <xmad> *drivers
[22:18] <Black_Prince> !partner
[22:19] <Black_Prince> !mplayer
[22:19] <Black_Prince> !mozilla-mplayer
[22:19] <masai471> How good is wubi
[22:20] <duongthaiha> its good
[22:20] <Black_Prince> No mozilla-mplayer in Lucid?
[22:20] <pr0xy> xmad, I think I disabled proprietary drivers before updating. I'll check.
[22:20] <masai471> can a wubi install use a swap partition?
[22:21] <duongthaiha> masai471: no  need wubi can be from windows
[22:22] <iConfused> Pithos is the best thing since flying spaghetti monsters
[22:22] <xmad> pr0xy: Take a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=835573
[22:22] <masai471> duongthaiha: yes, but I may want to re-image an ISO from that install.  Is that possible, and everything I have read suggest that that at least 1GB of swap is needed
[22:23] <jaik> Can anyone in this room recommand a command line icq-client?
[22:23] <pr0xy> xmad, should the NVIDIA drivers be enabled? also, I'm using 64 bit.
[22:23] <cromag> jaik: i think centerim supports icq
[22:23] <iConfused> jaik: finch, maybe?
[22:24] <duongthaiha> masai471: do you want to have a bootable iso ?
[22:25] <masai471> yes
[22:25] <freedmo> Hi, i need help with vino under xfce(ubuntu 10.10 server x32), because in the preferences vino say it is only reachable over the local network.
[22:25] <JoeCoolDesk> How do I cd return to the directory that the command was initially issued in?
[22:25] <basajaun> anyway of backing up repositories and their keys for reinstalling system on another computer?
[22:25] <pr0xy> xmad, should the NVIDIA drivers be enabled? also, I'm using 64 bit.
[22:25] <jaik> cromag: , iConfused - Thank you!
[22:25] <JoeCoolDesk> basajaun, what software?
[22:26] <mage3070> slow day
[22:26] <Raydiation> is diff included in the standard install?
[22:26] <Thylith> anyone who plays StarCraft 2? I'm having trouble with the installation, can't view the files on the DVD to copy them.. tried about everything :S
[22:27] <basajaun> JoeCoolDesk: I mean back up my synaptic configuration repos keys and all
[22:27] <mage3070> maybe you can download it on www.piratebay.com
[22:27] <mage3070> ?
[22:28] <xmad> pr0xy: When doing a kernel upgrade, nvidia drivers are re-builded for the new kernl, if you disabled them before updating the kernel, then it probably didn't rebuilt.
[22:28] <masai471> doungthaiha: I am trying to set up a custom Edubuntu ISO that I can use at a school that will not have an internet connection (I am in the African bush right now)  but on the computer I currently have access to with an internet connection I can not significantly mess with (such as leaving an ubuntu partition and people having to choose windows at grub loader) which is why wubi is attractive
[22:28] <pr0xy> xmad, should I enable the drivers?
[22:28] <xmad> pr0xy: And that's why you see weird stuff on x
[22:28] <AegNuddel> I am trying to get things from the software center but it keeps telling me waiting for apt-get to exit
[22:28] <mage3070> it's not hard to dual boot ubuntu distributions
[22:28] <xmad> pr0xy: Yeah, what drivers do you have right now?
[22:29] <duongthaiha> masai471: you can use wubi to get into ubuntu
[22:29] <pr0xy> xmad No proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[22:29] <duongthaiha> masai471: then there is tool for you in ubuntu to create a custom iso
[22:29] <pr0xy> xmad, Where should I look?
[22:30] <rusivi> Thylith: are you using WINE?
[22:30] <Thylith> rusivi, well, yeah.. but there is a common problem installing straight from the dvd.. i just want to copy the files to a folder on my hdd
[22:30] <Thylith> but i can't view the files
[22:30] <masai471> duongthaiha:  What is that tool?  and it does not need a swap partition?  (this computer does not have a lot of  ram)
[22:30] <rusivi> Thylith: What version?
[22:30] <Thylith> something about the dvd being in UDF-format i thing
[22:30] <mage3070> remastersys
[22:30] <Thylith> rusivi, 1.3.2
[22:31] <Thylith> 1.2.1
[22:31] <Thylith> sry
[22:31] <Thylith> :P
[22:31] <Thylith> but it has nothing to do with wine..
[22:31] <Thylith> :P
[22:31] <rusivi> Thlith: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[22:31] <masai471> mage3070:  does remastersys need a swap partition?
[22:31] <rusivi> Thylith: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[22:31] <pr0xy> xmad, Where should I look for what drivers i'm using?
[22:31] <duongthaiha> masai471: yes last time i used the startup disk creator in the admin menu to create it
[22:32] <Thylith> rusivi, 10.10
[22:32] <git__> i'm using 10.10, rusivi
[22:32] <New2Ubuntu> Help!  I accidentally gave command "IF CONFIG" instead of "IFCONFIG".  It gave me a ">" prompt,  I typed quit & hit enter, then Q & hit enter.  Finally, I hit Ctrl-C and managed to get out.  However, am now unable to connect remotely via SSH.  What have I done & how do I fix it ???
[22:32] <Thylith> rusivi, http://dominikdorn.com/2010/07/starcraft-2-dvd-with-linux-wine/, that works for me in 10.04
[22:32] <Thylith> but not 10.10
[22:32] <mage3070> no
[22:32] <mage3070> remastersys does not need a swap partition
[22:32] <duongthaiha> masai471: when it boot it will auto check the ram and allocate everything
[22:32] <duongthaiha> masai471: you dont have to worry about that
[22:32] <masai471> Thanks a lot
[22:32] <rusivi> Thylith: let me check that link real quick
[22:32] <erUSUL> New2Ubuntu: what you did in command line has no effect whatsoever
[22:33] <Thylith> rusivi, yeah sure! glad for all the thoughts you can spare :P
[22:33] <erUSUL> New2Ubuntu: if you can not connect is becouse of something else
[22:33] <xmad> pr0xy: lspci | grep VGA
[22:33] <galoisfield> kaco : google it
[22:34] <tiox> Hey peeps.
[22:34] <rusivi> Thylith: did you follow the directions in that link then you could launch the installer?
[22:34] <v3nd3tta``> what was the command to synchronize the system time?
[22:34] <Thylith> no, i could view the files on the dvd after that
[22:34] <erUSUL> v3nd3tta``: ntpdate?
[22:34] <Thylith> atm, i get two files ~13mb
[22:34] <mage3070> it's a lot easier to ask experienced users for guidance than to sift through google pages
[22:34] <darkavenger> hey, can someone help me real quick with a simple networking question?
[22:34] <mage3070> that's what this channel is for - no 'google it' please
[22:35] <xmad> pr0xy: I'd use the propietary drivers, they are generally better than the open drivers sadly.
[22:35] <xmad> pr0xy: At least for ATI cards.
[22:35] <mikeg3> What's the simplest way to re-install grub if it was overwritten by Vista's boot loader.
[22:35] <duongthaiha> hi i am install kmd however it asking for the gtk-config but it couldnt find it. I am using ubuntu 10.10. Any can help me to find gtk-config please? Thanks a lot
[22:35] <erUSUL> !grub2 | mikeg3
[22:35] <VCoolio> darkavenger: quickest way is to just ask :)  but I'll say in advance I can't help with this
[22:36] <seagullarity> is a ps/2 power supply the same form factor as ATX?
[22:36] <Thylith> mikeg3, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202 , that worked for me when i had some trouble
[22:36] <erUSUL> seagullarity: doubt it;
[22:36] <darkavenger> ubuntu wont let me enter extended ascii into the wep key box when trying to connect to my network
[22:36] <seagullarity> what the heck is it then? I don't mean Playstation 2
[22:36] <seagullarity> I mean the kind of power supply called "PS/2" form factor
[22:37] <SalahGo> oO
[22:38] <SalahGo> Noone knows if Maple commands work on Scilab?
[22:38] <erUSUL> seagullarity: a power suply for (now ancient) IBM ps/2 personal computers ( from which we inherited the ps/2 connector for mouse and keyboard now phased ut by usb )
[22:38] <Scottie> Anyone know how to install a Logitec Webcam C120 on Ubuntu?
[22:38] <tphive> Mkay, so I used UNE a bit last night on an Acer Aspire One 110, 1.6Ghz, 512MB RAM, 8GB SSD. The SSD is an early gen, which is quite slow. After actually using the OS for a bit, it was UNGODLY slow, and the way the HDD light was ticking away, RAM hardly used, CPU moderately so, I'm pretty sure it was the SSD capping it. So question is, is there a way to optimize UNE or desktop version for slow
[22:38] <tphive> SSDs? Or is there a distro that someone would suggest for this purpose? Keep in mind I'd like to keep it like ubuntu where it's very very user friendly and asthetically pleasing. Suggestions?
[22:38] <erUSUL> seagullarity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_System/2
[22:38] <WhatTheFoo> Hi
[22:39] <Blue1> tphive: what file system did you use?
[22:39] <xmad> pr0xy: Take a look at this, it describes how to change from open to propietary drivers. http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[22:39] <lilkuz2005> hey guys i have a question about a ubuntu 10.10 wubi install
[22:39] <WhatTheFoo> I was stupid enough to download and burn the wrong livecd .iso file
[22:39] <WhatTheFoo> so i'm now on Ubuntu 10.04 livecd
[22:39] <lilkuz2005> i need to know if there is a way to add more space to the file system ?
[22:39] <v3nd3tta``> erUSUL: can you give me full command usage?
[22:39] <tphive> Blue1: Whatever UNE would normally install. Would another work better?
[22:39] <WhatTheFoo> can i somehow eject the CD while live to burn a 10.10 iso?
[22:39] <mage3070> shoot
[22:40] <Blue1> tphive: ext2 (non journaled) works far better
[22:40] <xilo> lilkuz2005: space is limited to your total free hard drive space iirc
[22:40] <xmad> WhatTheFoo: Nope
[22:40] <erUSUL> v3nd3tta``: sudo ntpdate time.server.net
[22:40] <WhatTheFoo> xmad: ouch :/
[22:40] <Scottie> How do I run a disc using wine?
[22:40] <xmad> WhatTheFoo: =(
[22:40] <basajaun> how do I back up synaptic repositories and keys so that I can reinstall the same system on a different computer
[22:40] <WhatTheFoo> well, twice the install, twice the fun (i suposse)
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> WhatTheFoo: you could use dropbox or ubuntuone to hot the files
[22:40] <pr0xy> xmad, changed drivers think i've got everything running.
[22:40] <xmad> pr0xy: Cool
[22:40] <area51pilot> anyone sucessfully install a current MS Office product in wine?
[22:40] <WhatTheFoo> ActionParsnip: the problem is not the files, it's burning the CD
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> Scottie: mount the CD, then run:   wine /path/to/setup.exe     (case sensitive of course)
[22:40] <WhatTheFoo> i have no other operating system
[22:40] <xmad> pr0xy: If you did a fresh install the drivers should be working for your new kernel.
[22:40] <tphive> Blue1: Interesting, better in general, or better for slow SSD's like my situation?
[22:41] <Blue1> tphive: I have a ubuntu install running off a usb drive.  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=51
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> WhatTheFoo: you'll need 2 drives
[22:41] <pr0xy> xmad, I didn't do a fresh install.
[22:41] <WhatTheFoo> Well, i'll just install 10.04 to burn 10.10
[22:41] <WhatTheFoo> heh
[22:41] <Devvy> Hello there.
[22:41] <lilkuz2005> xilo,  i ment that ive installed it an 8gb partition in wubi can i make it bigger say 15 gb of my 160 gb that i have win7 on ?
[22:41] <bcbc2> lilkuz2005: not easily. You could create a separate home virtual disk or try resizing with lvpm (but lvpm uninstalls grub2 so you'll have to reinstall it afterwards)
[22:41] <Scottie> ActionParsnip: "Cannot find /path/to/setup.exe"
[22:41] <Blue1> tphive: see above, article on how I did it, why I chose, ext2, and how to further optimise it by getting rid of relatime, and replace with noatime
[22:41] <WhatTheFoo> bbl
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> Scottie: is that what you ran....seriously...?
[22:41] <rusivi> area51pilot: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=31
[22:42] <Scottie> ActionParsnip: Like I know what I'm doing? Lol
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> Scottie: think about it, read the command....
[22:42] <Scottie> ActionParsnip: If I knew what to do, I wouldn't be in an irc ;)
[22:42] <tphive> Blue1: Thank you very much, hopefully that solves the issue. :D
[22:42] <darkavenger> anyone know why ubuntu wont let my use extended ascii in my wep key?
[22:42] <lilkuz2005> bcbc2,  sounds like it could be tough
[22:42] <xmad> pr0xy: configure xserver with "nvidia-xconfig
[22:42] <xilo> lilkuz2005: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[22:42] <nothingspecial> Anyone know what has happened to autopackage?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Scottie: well think about it. I can't possibly know the EXACT path to setup.exe can I, so we use /path/to so that YOU can put the path and file in
[22:43] <xmad> pr0xy: And check if it's fixed
[22:43] <Blue1> tphive: those changes will speed up linux considerably, but remember to shutdown completely when you are done.
[22:43] <Scottie> ActionParsnip: I do get it though, just didn't think about it before I did it.
[22:43] <bcbc2> lilkuz2005: problems is lvpm hasn't been updated since ubuntu 8.04
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Scottie: thats it, i suggest you think more :)
[22:43] <Scottie> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the help, all the same.
[22:44] <xilo> tbh i'd rather install in a virtual machine if you're just going to use wubi
[22:44] <Devvy> I'm a bit of a new Ubuntu user here. Could someone please tell me the Terminal sudo or su command to change the super user password? I'm on Ubuntu 9.04 if that helps. Thanks.
[22:44] <pr0xy> xmad, how do I restart the x server?
[22:44] <bcbc2> lilkuz2005: if all your data is in home you can use the script from the wubi guide to create a separate home.disk
[22:44] <tphive> Blue1: After installation I take it? Instead of letting it reboot?
[22:44] <xmad> pr0xy: ctrl+alt+space
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> !nooot | Devvy
[22:45] <xmad> pr0xy: or backspace I forgot
[22:45] <area51pilot> rusivi: Thx for the link
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> !noroot | Devvy
[22:45] <Blue1> tphive: any time you use it.  ext2 is non journaled and by carefully shutting down, you won't corrupt the filesystem
[22:45] <bcbc2> lilkuz2005: if you back up the root.disk first, then - if it doesn't pan out - you can revert back to the original
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> Devvy: if you want a root terminal, run:    sudo -i
[22:45] <Blue1> tphive: also NO SWAP SPACE
[22:45] <tphive> Blue1: ahh, so does that mean no sleep mode? :\
[22:45] <Devvy> Okay, Parsnip. Thanks.
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> Devvy: 9.04 dies on the 23rd October, so you may want to consider upgrading to Karmic
[22:46] <detrix42> Hello all.  Is there a way to find out if my eth0 is running at 10BaseT or 100BaseT...I have a new mother board, and my router showing 10BaseT, I want to confirm this with a linux utility if one exists.
[22:46] <lilkuz2005> is there any way to just take all my settings like my icons and themes and a few txt files and reinstall ubuntu with a larger filesize then put all of my settings back ?
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> detrix42: sudo lshw -C network
[22:46] <pr0xy> xmad ctrl+alt+backspace isn't working can I restart the computer?
[22:46] <xmad> pr0xy: Yea that will do too haha
[22:46] <detrix42> ActionParsnip: Thanx
[22:47] <Devvy> Yes. I was thinking about that, but I didn't know it stopped being supported on the 23rd. I'll update right away. When I update, do I have the option of transferring all my files and drivers?
[22:47] <ZykoticK9> xmad, FYI for recent Ubuntu versions the restart X hotkey (by default) is Alt+SysRq+k
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> pr0xy: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/enable-ctrl-alt-backspace-in-ubuntukubuntu-10-04lucid-lynx.html
[22:47] <xmad> ZykoticK9: oh, thanks for the tip =)
[22:48] <Blue1> tphive: it means no sleep mode, remember we are going for performance here, and swapping to ssd is VERY slow (YMMV applies)
[22:48] <hazard> I just installed Ubuntu on an olod box I have here, and couldn't get better than 640x800 resolution. It says there is an Nvidia driver that I could activate, but doing that didn't seem to help, and in fact made it worse in a way.
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> hazard: what nvidia chip and what release?
[22:48] <hazard> When I did the Nvidia one, i had to use their app to adjust things, but when I clicked on things the position of the app would slide back and forth.
[22:49] <Blue1> hazard: this might help:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=325
[22:49] <hazard> ActionParsnip: If I'm looking at the right part, GeForce FX 5200?
[22:49] <tphive> Blue1: Don't know what YMMV is. :P And is there any way to allow sleep? O.o Because on a netbook sleep is very very useful.
[22:49] <Blue1> tphive: Your Mileage May Vary
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> hazard: yes, what is the output of: lsb_release -c
[22:50] <pokoko222> what does ls --full i dont get it
[22:50] <Devvy> Do I get the option of transfering files when I upgrade?
[22:50] <detrix42> hazard: you have to anticipate where the button will be when it shits
[22:50] <smallfoot-> plymouth doesnt show boot up screen!!
[22:50] <hazard> lsb_release -c
[22:50] <hazard> Oops. Wrong term.
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> Devvy: the data will be unchanged
[22:50] <hazard> Codename: Karmic
[22:50] <tphive> Blue1: Ah, and the other part?
[22:50] <oskar-> pokoko222:  seems a shortcut for --full-time, see manpage
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> smallfoot-: http://jurajsplayground.com/2010/04/02/fixing-plymouth-in-ubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx-server/
[22:51] <Devvy> Thanks for the help. See you later everyone.
[22:51] <hazard> detrix42: That sounds right, that is exactly what I had to do.
[22:51] <froggyman> is it possible to turn my current Ubuntu installation (on my internal HDD) into a bootable flash drive?
[22:51] <Blue1> tphive: swapping may be fast or slow on your system, it varies.
[22:51] <pokoko222> oskar i did saw it but what is full time?
[22:51] <detrix42> I have an FX5500
[22:51] <hazard> ActionParsnip: Codename: Karmic
[22:51] <Blue1> froggyman: yes
[22:51] <bcbc2> lilkuz2005: you can always back up your data and settings and reinstall. The resize is designed to do all this in a single step. But as I mentioned, has some tricky bits.
[22:51] <coz_> hazard,   lsb_release -a   will give a bit more info
[22:51] <froggyman> Blue1, how would I do that then? Do you have any guides for that?
[22:51] <Blue1> froggyman: here's the recipe:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=51
[22:52] <hazard> ActionParsnip: Though, that's a bad answer. I just remembered that I rebooted the liveCD when my efforts caused my monitor to say that the input was no supported.
[22:52] <tphive> Blue1: So having a swap partition is what would allow for sleep?
[22:52] <gosha1> Can I start X-programs in a screen-fashion. So they keep running even if I close down my X-Session.. And then somehow reattach them when I start a new one?
[22:52] <froggyman> Blue1, thanks!
[22:52] <detrix42> hazard: but once I finally got a flatscreen, it auto-detected the resolution properly, now I have no problems with it
[22:52] <oskar-> pokoko222:  ls will output the time, a file has changed, with more precision
[22:52] <lilkuz2005> bcb2 can you show me a tutorial on how to do this im n a rush to get to the rest room right now lol no joke but ill be right back
[22:52] <hazard> detrix42: That's what this is. It's a bit older, but it's a 19" Acer flat panel.
[22:53] <Blue1> tphive: yes, but expect it to be quite slow.  I use my usb flash adhoc, but in your situation, you probably aren't doing that.  all I can say is try it.  like I said, YMMV applies
[22:53] <detrix42> hazard: hmmmm.
[22:53] <Blue1> tphive: how much ram?
[22:53] <Blue1> froggyman: welcome
[22:53] <hazard> detrix42: Though the Nvidia app listed it as a CRT. Which is also the problem I had with my laptop (all video working) when I tried to connect my 40" Panasonic Viera to it a couple of days ago.
[22:53] <tphive> Blue1 512MB.
[22:54] <Blue1> tphive: as a rule of thumb, make the swap 1.5 x ram so 768 M
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> hazard: seems supported by the 173 driver
[22:54] <pr0xy> Why doesn't the bottom bar stretch all the way across the screen?
[22:54] <hazard> ActionParsnip: That's what the "additional drivers" section told me too.
[22:55] <froggyman> Blue1, actually I think that isn't quite what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a way to basically copy my current installation onto a flashdrive, so all of my current packages will be on the flash drive
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> hazard: ok then do you have nvidia-glx-173 installed/
[22:55] <hazard> ActionParsnip: But after activating it, and rebooting, it was still 640x800 with no greater option. (one lesser option)
[22:55] <sdf34> hello all
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> hazard: then run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig   then restart X | the system
[22:55] <darkkrai> Virtual packages like 'google-chrome' can't be removed, how do I fix this?
[22:55] <lastent> Hi, have you get a iPod Sixth generation to work with ubuntu?
[22:55] <tphive> Blue1: Mkay, by nature how often is a swap used, and for what? Because obviously since it is an SSD, keeping the number of writes to a minimum is something to take note of. But of course sleep on a netbook is also very important too.
[22:56] <hazard> ActionParsnip: Ok. I'll try that as soon as I can get back into it. Back later. Thanks for the help.
[22:56] <Blue1> froggyman: dunno if dd would work -- I suppse if the flash drive were the size of your partition, it would.  most flash drives aren't much more then 16G without getting uber expensive
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> Blue1: also, use ext2 will reduce writes
[22:56] <sdf34> I have ubuntu 10.10, after some time my layout swither start to work very strange. It's switching the keyboard layout while i'm typing! So the final text becomes a mess. And i have to restart my computer to fix this problem, any idea please?
[22:56] <Blue1> ActionParsnip: yeah tht's in the recipe
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> Blue1: cool
[22:56] <teija> hey
[22:56] <teija> can anyone help with an ubuntu problem ?
[22:56] <froggyman> Blue1, well I do have a 16GB flash drive that I could use
[22:56] <detrix42> hazard: I believe I fixed my issue buy manually editing the xorg.config file.  I had to put in the vertical refresh and horizontal scan rate.
[22:57] <Blue1> teija: depends on the problem
[22:57] <xmad> !ask
[22:57] <Android_Nerd914> does anyone know the command to get my password i forgot it and can identify my self any help please
[22:57] <Android_Nerd914> cant*
[22:57] <xmad> !anyone
[22:57] <nikola> sdf34, try to remove any aditional keyboard layouts you have
[22:57] <detrix42> hazard: once I did that, the nvidia configuration utility worked.
[22:57] <nikola> teija, just ask
[22:57] <sdf34> I cant
[22:58] <teija> all games on my ubuntu is really slow next to nonplayeable.. is there something i need to download ?
[22:58] <hazard> detrix42: On an LCD? I've never been able to find those numbers for LCDs before. I had kind of assumed that was only for CRT.
[22:58] <teija> meaning facebook games and so on
[22:58] <ZykoticK9> Android_Nerd914, no way to retrieve password, simply log into Recovery mode and use the root account to change your users password.
[22:58] <wei`> exit
[22:58] <darkkrai> teija, you might need a 3d driver
[22:58] <Inflatab1eSoulm8> teija: flash games?  are you using a 64-bit version of ubuntu?
[22:58] <minimec> Android_Nerd914: Boot in recovery mode and choose the root console... then 'passwd "youruser"' Change the password
[22:58] <Blue1> froggyman: in order for dd to work, the destination size must be at least equal to the source size - so if your hard drive partition is less then or equal to 16G your gtg, otherwise, I'd recommend my recipe.  you can rsync up the /home/ directory to the usb drive
[22:58] <teija> no 32 bit
[22:58] <nikola> sdf34, system - preferences - keyboard
[22:58] <teija> i dont have any 3d drivers i know of
[22:58] <detrix42> hazard: no once I got my LCD I did not have any problems.  \
[22:59] <darkkrai> well, you need 3d acceleration
[22:59] <galoisfield> Android_Nerd914: u can use sudo su command and reset ur password
[22:59] <ubugeek> Hallo Rolli
[22:59] <nikola> teija - system, administration - aditional drivers
[22:59] <darkkrai> or else the computer tries to emulate it
[22:59] <darkkrai> thus, the slowness
[22:59] <Inflatab1eSoulm8> darkkrai: probably not for facebook games?
[22:59] <bcbc2> lilkuz2005: I don't have a tutorial. As I said, if you use lvpm it will resize but it uninstalls grub-pc. So backup root.disk before using. Then afterwards, reinstall grub-pc making sure not to install the bootloader to /dev/sda. Then update /etc/fstab to be ext3 (since lvpm will create the new root.disk using ext3).
[22:59] <ZykoticK9> darkditch, there is no 3d accelerated Flash for linux :(
[22:59] <Rolli> hallo an alle
[22:59] <darkkrai> I had that problem, anything moving was really slow
[22:59] <xmad> pr0xy: Did it work?
[22:59] <froggyman> Blue1, okay. I think I'll give your recipe a try and then rsync it
[22:59] <hazard> detrix42: Yeah. I don't have any CRTs left. Got rid of the last one a couple of years ago.
[22:59] <pr0xy> I think it did, xmad.
[22:59] <Blue1> ZykoticK9: flash works quirkily in firefox on 64 bit.  works fine however, in opera and chrome
[22:59] <bcbc2> lilkuz2005: if it was me, I'd just backup my data and reinstall. Or migrate to a partition
[23:00] <Inflatab1eSoulm8> installing vdpau helps a little bit with certain 2D stuff that many 3D cards support
[23:00] <xmad> pr0xy: Nice
[23:00] <Blue1> froggyman: let me know how it goes, leave me some feedback.
[23:00] <Inflatab1eSoulm8> err... I think.
[23:00] <Inflatab1eSoulm8> wait, maybe vdpau is just for video playback
[23:00] <darkkrai> Virtual packages like 'google-chrome' can't be removed, how do I fix this?
[23:00] <ZykoticK9> Inflatab1eSoulm8, vdpau is video output not used by any browser (as far as I'm aware)
[23:01] <weboide> Hello, I am getting kernel panics very often and randomly.. and I would like to know how I can get some debug info or log dump?
[23:01] <Blue1> okay peach out for a bit
[23:01] <sdf34> it's working now, thanks
[23:01] <detrix42> hazard: was just a thought, that I had that problem.  you may have to find a setting in the xorg.conf file to manually set????
[23:01] <Blue1> peace even
[23:01] <xmad> Probably his drivers are messed up
[23:01] <ChrisBuchholz> Hey guys. Did any big change get made between the release candidate and finale of maverick?
[23:02] <bodybag> hey....
[23:02] <Android_Nerd914> how do i get my password i forget it and need to indentify my nickname
[23:02] <froggyman> Blue1, alright. I think I'm going to just use the Startup Disk manager though that is built in so I don't have to rebooot
[23:02] <hazard> detrix42: After I get to where I can see it at all again, I'll try the link you already dropped, then come back if I've still failed.
[23:02] <Android_Nerd914> anyone please?
[23:02] <ZykoticK9> Android_Nerd914, OH IRC password you mean!
[23:02] <Inflatab1eSoulm8> Android_Nerd914: did you try the freenode website?
[23:02] <Android_Nerd914> yes ZykoticK9
[23:02] <Android_Nerd914> im new to irc
[23:03] <Inflatab1eSoulm8> there's probably also a nickserv/whateverserv command to have your password reset and emailed to you
[23:03] <detrix42> hazard: ok, but I did not drop a link, must have been someone else.  cheers
[23:03] <bodybag> hey guys im kinda new to this......
[23:03] <nikola> bodybag, just ask if you need something
[23:03] <Android_Nerd914> does someone know a command so get my password
[23:03] <bodybag> ok...whys your name gold
[23:03] <galoisfield> Android_Nerd914: which client r u using?
[23:04] <Android_Nerd914> xchat
[23:04] <Android_Nerd914> and i use irssi also
[23:04] <Android_Nerd914> but xchat for now
[23:04] <nikola> bodybag, because i used your name in a nick, this is not channel to discuss irc basics :)
[23:04] <Wobblybob> lastent: Floola works for me
[23:04] <galoisfield> Android_Nerd914: then cant u create new account?
[23:04] <bodybag> lol well sorry iv just never used an irc befor
[23:04] <Android_Nerd914> dont want a new account
[23:04] <aubrey616> after last update SYSTEM FREEZES
[23:05] <pr0xy> aubrey616 where does it freeze?
[23:05] <ZykoticK9> Android_Nerd914, perhaps try the #freenode channel (not sure that's the correct one, but worth a try)
[23:05] <Android_Nerd914> thanks
[23:05] <bodybag> so who here uses 10.10?
[23:06] <ppp> me
[23:06] <darkkrai> me
[23:06] <lastent> Wobblybob, Ill try
[23:06] <darkkrai> how do I make firefox open up links?
[23:06] <galoisfield> Android_Nerd914: am presently using webchat..so u can login with d same nick if u want..
[23:06] <ZykoticK9> bodybag, if you want to just general chat use the #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is support only :)
[23:06] <Wobblybob> me
[23:06] <darkkrai> when I click them, it doesnt open in ff
[23:06] <bodybag> ok thanks
[23:06] <nikola> darkkrai, right click on it
[23:06] <kolistivra> how can I make a program(for example, yakuake) start everytime ubuntu 10.04 starts?
[23:07] <weboide> Hello again, I had a kernel panic, and am getting a lot of those and was wondering how I could get some log dump or debug log that, in order to make a bug report?
[23:07] <atesz>  /whois
[23:07] <pr0xy> why am I forced to have a really ugly splash screen? I think it's the nomodeset one.
[23:07] <ZykoticK9> kolistivra, System / Preferences / Startup Applications
[23:07] <nikola> kolistivra, system - preferences - startup programs
[23:07] <oskar-> !autostart | kolistivra
[23:08] <kolistivra> ty ZykoticK9, nikola, oskar
[23:08] <galoisfield> bodybag: try this , http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html#pubcom
[23:08] <darkkrai> nikola, I did
[23:08] <Bliepo> I want to do a clean install of the latest version of Ubuntu (10.04 -> 10.10), but I have an encrypted home partition. How can I keep the files in my home partition?
[23:08] <darkkrai> i have to manually copy it
[23:09] <nikola> what client are you using? maybe try doubleclick
[23:09] <benjoldersma_> git config --add core.autocrlf input
[23:09] <darkkrai> irc
[23:09] <darkkrai> well, any link
[23:10] <nikola> irc is name of the protocol, darkditch
[23:10] <darkkrai> in pidgin, music, any app
[23:10] <darkkrai> *xchat
[23:10] <darkkrai> sorryu
[23:10] <pr0xy> why is the bottom bar in Kubuntu flickering and not clickable?
[23:10] <cannonfodder> my built in laptop webcam works in cheese but not in ekiga...can someone help? i want to be able to do chatting with webcam but have no clue how
[23:10] <nerdy_kid> pr0xy kubuntu's support channel is #kubuntu, I might be able to help you there.
[23:10] <lindows> why i cant copy phpinfo in /var/www
[23:10] <masai471> can someone confirm that wubi can install Edubuntu?  and how can I get wubi to use an already downloaded iso?
[23:11] <lindows> why i cant copy phpinfo in /var/www it says i dont have rights
[23:11] <darkkrai> lindows, you need permisions
[23:11] <lindows> how to set permisions
[23:11] <pr0xy> nerdy_kid, nobody helps me in #kubuntu.
[23:11] <nikola> darkkrai, i am using xchat right now, it is working , rightclicking worked by default
[23:11] <Bliepo> lindows, try using sudo when you copy
[23:11] <lindows> im doing with gnome
[23:11] <lindows> :)
[23:11] <cablop> what is lindows?
[23:11] <nerdy_kid> pr0xy I might be able to help (I am over there).  They just like keeping the channels organized.
[23:11] <eriksson25> Hejl me with folowing error "ubuntu-extras-keyring is not configured yet" on a newly updated 10.04 --> 10.10
[23:12] <goltoof> how would i copy all contents in file to clipboard?  with terminal
[23:12] <Bliepo> you can launch nautilus with root right from the terminal: gksu nautilus
[23:12] <ZykoticK9> cablop, i don't think it exists anymore, was a distro - but that totally OT for this channel.  you could ask in ##linux
[23:12] <darkkrai> sudo cp <files> /location/of/destination
[23:12] <cablop> hehe
[23:12] <xmad> goltoof: when you select them it's automatically copied, press the middle click on your mouse and it will be pasted
[23:13] <Bliepo> goltoof: to copy from termian: control + shift + c
[23:13] <nikola> i believe he means exporting
[23:13] <goltoof> xmad:  i mean copy the contents of a file without needing to open it
[23:13] <goltoof> ie,  copything /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[23:14] <goltoof> then i can just paste wherever i want
[23:14] <ZykoticK9> goltoof, doubt it's possible!  there are like 3 running clipboards in linux!
[23:14] <KimJongIl> !kp
[23:14] <goltoof> Zykotic9:  i figured, haven't looked into all the different types of clipboards or what they do yet
[23:14] <xmad> goltoof: using a script
[23:14] <KimJongIl> !ko
[23:14] <ZykoticK9> !tab | goltoof
[23:14] <New2Ubuntu> Would an IP address change on server cause error via remote ssh of "Server's host key is unknown. You have no guarantee that the server is the computer you think it is."  Gives details about Fingerprint:ssh-rsa.  This happened on putty & Filezilla.
[23:15] <goltoof> ZykoticK9,  thanks  :)
[23:16] <ZykoticK9> goltoof, using the middle mouse key is a common example for #2 - try by highlighting text in terminal then (most likely) clicking your mouse wheel (it's separate from gnome) - i forget the third
[23:16] <bcbc2> masai471: I don't think so, but you should be able to add it afterwards from synaptic.
[23:16] <xmad> exit
[23:16] <aryu> hi there
[23:16] <xmad> lol...
[23:16] <g0tcha> anyone know how to flush dns in ubuntu desktop?
[23:17] <aryu> i create a Virtual machine with vbox but it is very slow
[23:17] <goltoof> ZykoticK9,  good to know
[23:17] <adac> I have no more sound onmy notebook speakers. hovewer i do have sound on my headphones. any ideas?
[23:17] <nikola> aryu, what procesor and how much ram do you have
[23:17] <oskar-> g0tcha:  restart nscd, if it is running
[23:17] <aryu> is it possible to allowed full ram for my vbox to boost my VM ?
[23:17] <aryu> amd64 1GB ram
[23:17] <masai471> bcbc2:  if I use wubi to install ubuntu
[23:18] <nikola> there is a limit on how much ram you can give to to virtual machine
[23:18] <lindows> how to set permision to /var/www for always of an username
[23:18] <nikola> aryu that is not proc and ram for some extra usage with virtuabox
[23:18] <Bliepo> I want to do a clean install of the latest version of Ubuntu (10.04 -> 10.10), but I have an encrypted home partition. How can I keep the files in my home partition?
[23:18] <nikola> buy 3 more gb
[23:18] <lindows> how to set permision to /var/www for always of an username
[23:19] <bcbc2> masai471: what versions do you get when you run wubi.exe in the drop down box?
[23:19] <masai471> and then use the ubuntu install to create a partition for edubuntu to be installed in, will it still use the windows boot loader?  I am going abut this in a very round about way
[23:19] <masai471> run wubi.exe in the drop down box?
[23:19] <cablop> lindows... just add ACL support for the disk, and then setup ACL permisions and defauls without changing the default behavior
[23:19] <masai471> if I run wubi it just tries to download
[23:19] <bcbc2> masai471: I meant if you run wubi.exe, which versions show up inthe dropdown box
[23:20] <ZykoticK9> aryu, does running this from terminal give output?  grep svm /proc/cpuinfo
[23:20] <masai471> no version
[23:20] <bcbc2> masai471: you should see a selection of Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Netbook etc.
[23:20] <aryu> ok thanks
[23:20] <masai471> I see that yes
[23:20] <mobasher> aryu=>> you will kill your system...what is your system going to use if you give full ram
[23:20] <mobasher> g0tcha=>> what are you trying to do ?
[23:20] <lapion> anyone know how to change the command for firefox to open the profile manager for every time firefox gets started up ?
[23:20] <bcbc2> masai471: so there's no edubuntu included?
[23:20] <masai471> no
[23:21] <lapion> "firefox -ProfileManager"  only does so for the first time
[23:21] <g0tcha> mobasher, i just rebooted.. dns was messing up for some reason.. i can ping internet ips but couldnt resolve the hostnames
[23:21] <Bliepo> lapion: I believe that /usr/bin/firefox is a script, you could modify it
[23:21] <lapion> I do not like to modify scripts..
[23:21] <aqw> I have no troubles to connect to my home wi-fi, but today I was in a McDonald's and I could connect with Windows but not with Ubuntu: McDonald's has this webpage where you have to input username and password, but once connected to their wi-fi I was not able to have Firefox show me that page...
[23:21] <bcbc2> masai471: ok, well install kubuntu and then install edubuntu-deskop from synaptic (I think edubuntu is mostly based on kubuntu - not sure)
[23:21] <masai471> and I am behind a proxi so I need to use a pre downloaded ISO file.  (it took me a week to get edubuntu
[23:22] <lapion> I just think this should be possible with the default script...
[23:22] <mobasher> g0tcha=>> you are running static Ip ?
[23:22] <New2Ubuntu> lapion - found link https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Command_Line_Options
[23:22] <masai471> I am in the african bush behind a lousy proxie.  It took me almost a week to download edubuntu.  Doing it through synaptic wont work
[23:22] <g0tcha> mobasher, yes
[23:23] <Bliepo> lapion, it is not, but you can however modify the appstarter, by clicking it with right mouse, properties and adding -profilemanager
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> hey guys, whats the command to launch the envelope icon in the indicator applet please?
[23:24] <mobasher> g0tcha=>> you have a firewall running ?
[23:24] <nikola> ActionParsnip, right click on the panel, and add
[23:25] <ironbeard> Hey guys. Using ubuntu netbook 10.10. My screen keeps dimming and going into lock screen every couple of minutes, even though I have the settings on power management to never do so. Do you think this is just a bug that hasn't been caught, or is there something else I can do?  Hardware is Ion2 *Nvidia , Intel etc ..
[23:25] <Bliepo> lapion, can you see the firefox icon, in the top panel, on the left?
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> nikola: yes but i add the indicator and it's not there, i believe I have removed the package for it
[23:26] <aubrey616> running xubuntu 10.10
[23:26] <g0tcha> mobasher, nah i didnt.. i said a reboot fixed it, i just didnt wanna reboot at first..
[23:26] <bcbc2> masai471: i'm not sure. You can probably mount and install it from the .iso after booting kubuntu...
[23:26] <roffe> Has anyone else tried to enable the snow effect in compiz on 10.10?
[23:26] <grekkos> I'm trying to mount a shared folder in an ubuntu-server VM (mac os x 10.6 host), I can mount okay but I'm having issues when trying to give my webserver in the VM write permissions to install drupal CMS, can someone help me set this up? I have an entry in my /etc/fstab for the mount point, I think I need to set a umask to allow me to set write permissions o+w for a folder
[23:26] <nikola> ActionParsnip, try to reset panel settings, if you dont have any special modifications
[23:26] <Benkinooby> i want to boot as verbose as possible (textmode). what is the best way to do that? work on boot up scripts? boot options?
[23:26] <roffe> It doesn't work for me, and it seems as a few others can't get it to work in 10.10 either
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> roffe: i compiled it ages ago
[23:26] <mobasher> g0tcha=>> try -> sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[23:27] <roffe> ActionParsnip, Are you the author?
[23:27] <mobasher> g0tcha=>> then try -> sudo ifconfig eth0 up | sudo dhclient eth0
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> roffe: no
[23:27] <lapion> well whereever I put it it's not on the top. however the option -P or -ProfileManager :  it works but like I said only for the first time.. each subsequent time it starts a thread of the running ff
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> nikola: can you please pastebin your output of: dpkg -l | grep indicator       Thanks
[23:27] <g0tcha> mobasher, cool.. ill try that next time it happens.. but wouldnt the second command set it to dhcp instead of static like i have it?
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> roffe: its easy enough to compile
[23:27] <bastidrazor> Benkinooby: in /etc/default/grub   remove "quiet splash" from GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"    then run sudo update-grub
[23:28] <nikola> why, ActionParsnip ?
[23:28] <mobasher> g0tcha=>> ahh yes..sorry forgot you have a static
[23:28] <aubrey616> anyone else have problems after updating ubuntu 10.10 ??
[23:28] <Nirtal> Hello! My wired network stopped working in ubuntu-10.04-netbook and I don't have a clue what to do
[23:28] <Benkinooby> bastidrazor, thank you
[23:28] <smallfoot-> aubrey616, no works fine here
[23:28] <roffe> ActionParsnip, ok, but it won't work for me, and it seems others have complained when you browse google. So it works for you in 10.10?
[23:28] <Nirtal> My wireless connection work tough
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> nikola: I have removed one of the indicator packages, I need to compare to a default install with mine
[23:28] <Bliepo> lapion, you can make a shortcut on your desktop for that, Just right click on a blank space, select 'new appstarter' (or something like that, I am using a Dutch version here)
[23:28] <goltoof> terminal based spreadsheet viewer/editor?
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> roffe: i did it in lucid
[23:29] <aubrey616> smallfoot-, perhaps different hardware, 64 bit and Nvidia ??
[23:29] <roffe> ActionParsnip, sure, but I think lucid had no problem with it, only 10.10
[23:29] <ironbeard> nirtal: I found that once I logged into the regular gnome session (which comes with netbook) it started working, and then it worked fine on the netbook. Not a direct fix, but may work for you
[23:29] <goltoof> *is there a
[23:29] <bastidrazor> Benkinooby: you're welcome.
[23:29] <masai472> bcbc2:  any advice on how to force wubi on simply using the preinstalled ubuntu iso I have as I can not use the wubi webinstaller as I am behind a proxy
[23:30] <darkkrai> anyone know how to restore an idevice?
[23:30] <lapion> Bliepo you are not reading what I am saying..
[23:30] <jazzybee> I've installed nginx and php-fpm. Also installed xdebug and phpinfo shows xdebug is installed, enabled and running on port 92780. But Netbeans  just says Waiting for connection. It's not strictly an Ubuntu question but any pointers?
[23:30] <darkkrai> in ubuntu?
[23:30] <smallfoot-> aubrey616, ya, 64-bit and nvidia here.. everything works fine here
[23:30] <nikola> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/GRMqDPtQ
[23:30] <goltoof> any idea why php won't work after reinstalling apache2?
[23:30] <roffe> I can try to enable it, but it disables itself instantly
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> nikola: thanks :)
[23:30] <wedwo-> masai472, take a pvt?
[23:31] <lapion> Bliepo, add a launcher and running firefox -P or -ProfileManager : it works but like I said only for the first time.. each subsequent time it starts a thread of the running ff
[23:31] <aubrey616> smallfoot-, damn weird, my pc just freezes after 1 or 2 minutes
[23:31] <aubrey616> i am on a USB stick atm, live
[23:32] <smallfoot-> aubrey616, well i havent restarted since todays new kernel
[23:32] <Bliepo> lapion, as far as I understand, you want to use multiple profiles at the same time?
[23:32] <mortalscan> anyone home?
[23:32] <aubrey616> smallfoot-, i did that, thats when problems began
[23:32] <mobasher> has anyone ever tried to work with trendnet tew-644ub wireless usb stick ??
[23:32] <aubrey616> smallfoot-, care to try a restart after latest kernel and headers update ???
[23:32] <smallfoot-> aubrey616, oh
[23:32] <lapion> yes of course Bliepo
[23:32] <smallfoot-> :p
[23:33] <aqw> how should I connect to a wi-fi network which asks username and password in a webpage? I connected, but then Firefox didn't show me the login page (in Windows it works)...
[23:33] <smallfoot-> aubrey616, try escape at bootup and boot the old kernel
[23:33] <Dr-PRO> hi
[23:33] <bcbc2> masai472: wubi is difficult to force - it looks inside the .iso to see what it is
[23:33] <Bliepo> lapion, as far as I know, that is not possible, you can use different profiles, but not at the same time. As you said, it will just start a new thread
[23:33] <aubrey616> smallfoot-, i am tired now, atheros wireless dont work well with ubuntu, i had to install nvidia 64 bit drivers manually ... and then after auto upgrade the damn system hangs ..
[23:33] <mortalscan> i have a ubuntu question .. is it possible to load certain application to specific workplaces?
[23:33] <aubrey616> smallfoot-, how do i escape at boot then,
[23:34] <mortalscan> sorry im new to ubuntu
[23:34] <lapion> Bliepo, it is.. only due to a feature of the script it isn't when running from a launcher
[23:34] <h00k> aqw: I guess you'd have to check the system requirements for this login page
[23:34] <bcbc2> masai472: any reason why you can't partition your drive and install direct?
[23:35] <Bliepo> lapion, in that case, I unfortunately cannot help you any further, maybe some else knows the answer
[23:35] <aubrey616> smallfoot-, u there >
[23:35] <nikola> mortalscan, right click on in on down panel, adn then move it to workspace you want
[23:35] <lapion> thanks Bliepo
[23:35] <darkkrai> anyone know how to restore an idevice?
[23:35] <darkkrai> in ubuntu?
[23:35] <roffe> had anyone successfully run the snow effect in compiz on Meerkat?
[23:35] <mortalscan> anyone ?
[23:35] <lapion> I have to go and fish in older profile backups to find out how I did it the first time
[23:35] <Bliepo>  I want to do a clean install of the latest version of Ubuntu (10.04 -> 10.10), but I have an encrypted home partition. How can I keep the files in my home partition?
[23:36] <roffe> that includes you, mortalscan :)
[23:36] <smallfoot-> aubrey616, when the computer starts, press the escape or shift button, i dont remember
[23:36] <lapion> Bliepo, use a seperate partition
[23:36] <mortalscan> roffe will it always load int he workspace automaiticly ?
[23:37] <mage3070_> separate
[23:37] <StaRetji> Folks, can someone pastebin menu.lst to boot windows or ubuntu where windows is on partition1 and ubuntu is on partition2. Thx a lot ;)
[23:37] <Bliepo> lapion, I have a sperate home partiton, which is encrypted using the encryption feature provided in the installer, but I want to be able to access my file after a new install
[23:37] <aubrey616> smallfoot-, i try that, thanks, hope it saved the old kernel so i can downgrade
[23:37] <bastidrazor> Bliepo: from a liveCD rename your user on the home partition then install using your current /home as the /home during the install. you can then copy over files you need and delete the old home afterwards
[23:37] <StaRetji> I have windows7 and Ubuntu Maverick
[23:38] <h00k> Bliepo: You might be able to use this as a reference: http://anthonyrhook.com/blog/2010/01/05/upgrade-ubuntu-karmic-koala-from-32bit-to-64bit-with-encrypted-home/ (I haven't tried it release-to-release yet)
[23:38] <Bliepo> thank you hook
[23:39] <lapion> bliepo why do you think that after your new install you would not be able to reach your files anymore ?
[23:39] <Bliepo> lapion, because it happened to me before, but maybe I did something wrong
[23:40] <JoeCoolDesk> What's the difference between ls and dir?
[23:40] <lindows> mysql -u root
[23:40] <augdawg> can you write a rhythmbox plugin using ruby?
[23:40] <lindows> why i get error
[23:41] <lapion> Bliepo, are you sure you did not format the partition mounted at /home ?
[23:41] <lindows> nertil@Maverick:/$ mysql -u root
[23:41] <lindows> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[23:41] <ikonia> lindows: what error
[23:41] <bryhoyt> I'm using AUFS to run a read-only system with a RAM-only layer for runtime, eg as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/aufsRootFileSystemOnUsbFlash. The entire root filesystem is readonly. My question is: can I use grub-reboot (in a script, in this case) to reboot to a different preset mode (eg to a read-write mode), even when it's currently running in read-only mode? Or does grub-reboot need to write something persistent to the root FS?
[23:41] <blueskies> has anyone here had any success with 10.04 UNR on an HP2133 mininote?
[23:41] <ikonia> lindows: mysql -u root -p
[23:41] <Bliepo> lapion, yes, because the files where still there, but encrypted
[23:41] <mobasher> JoeCoolDesk=>> can you do ls -ltra in windows ?
[23:41] <fazzil> hi
[23:41] <lapion> Bliepo, create a backup with tar ?
[23:41] <JoeCoolDesk> mobasher, I don't know.
[23:41] <Alth> Hello,
[23:41] <JoeCoolDesk> I thought this was a linux room.
[23:42] <lapion> to a non encrypted usb stick
[23:42] <Bliepo> lapion, good idea, didn't think of that one yet
[23:42] <ikonia> JoeCoolDesk: it's an ubuntu support discussion channel
[23:42] <Alth> I keep getting a segmentation fault using foremost on a VFAT drive
[23:42] <mobasher> Joeboy=>> almost forgot dos lol
[23:42] <Alth> is this normal?
[23:42] <StaRetji> come one folks, can someone share his menu.lst for dual boot, pliz
[23:42] <JoeCoolDesk> Then what does that have to do with Windows?
[23:42] <h00k> !dualboot | StaRetji
[23:42] <ikonia> StaRetji: other peoples menu.lst will not work for you
[23:42] <mobasher> Joeboy=>> I was just curious
[23:42] <jrib> JoeCoolDesk: you probably want to read its source in the coreutils package if you are really that curious
[23:42] <Alth> !foremost | Alth
[23:43] <lapion> either that, or create a backup of the installed system with "-one-file-system" so you only backup the system-files, so you can recover later
[23:43] <Benkinooby> includes ubuntu 10.10 the sysV init system or is it pure upstart?
[23:43] <ikonia> Benkinooby: pure upstart
[23:44] <scampbell> the only differences between dir and ls are some of the default options, at least last time I looked, they both come from the same source code.
[23:44] <Benkinooby> ikonia, is it possible to make 10.4 pure upstart?
[23:44] <StaRetji> h00k: thx for reply, but I have installed windows 7 and on second partition I've just dd image of my usb stick. I then install Neogrub in windows which wants me to fill menu.lst which I don't have.
[23:44] <ikonia> Benkinooby: 10.04 is upstart
[23:44] <ikonia> StaRetji: neogrub isn't supported here
[23:44] <bryhoyt> ikonia: but there's still some scripts in /etc/init.d
[23:45] <Benkinooby> ikonia, but i still find all the old sysv init stuff. also sometimes i get error messages for not migrated processes
[23:45] <StaRetji> ikonia: but I need only menu.lst nothing else, somebody must have it on this forum
[23:45] <ikonia> bryhoyt: if you look they are called by upstart
[23:45] <h00k> StaRetji: Check Neogrub's documentation, I guess, but it's not suported here
[23:45] <StaRetji> h00k: ok, thx man
[23:45] <ikonia> Benkinooby: the scripts are wrappers, it's still called by upstart
[23:45] <Magnetro> Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening active users.
[23:45] <bryhoyt> ikonia: ok, I see what you mean. Does 10.10 have some scripts like that in /etc/init.d too (I haven't installed it yet)?
[23:46] <ikonia> bryhoyt: I think there are a few, but not many at all
[23:46] <Benkinooby> ikonia, hast a 10.10 system still the init.d folder?
[23:46] <Magnetro> I require simple assistance if someone would care to help.
[23:46] <ikonia> Benkinooby: yes
[23:46] <lilkuz2005> bcbc2, are you here?
[23:46] <ikonia> Magnetro: then ask a question
[23:46] <Benkinooby> ikonia, sorry i saw the aswer (even before my post) too late
[23:47] <Magnetro> I'm trying to download Ubuntu to a flash drive, yet the sudo apt get needed to download the usb creator is giving an odd message
[23:47] <StaRetji> let me try another approach, can someone who does dual boot, share menu.lst with me? Please?
[23:47] <Magnetro> Posting : message, one second/
[23:47] <Barridus> are there any repository mirrors that are any faster than us server, or mail server? X_X
[23:47] <ikonia> StaRetji: 1.) no it's not supported, you've been told 2.) other peoples menu.lst will NOT work for you
[23:47] <Benkinooby> ikonia, is there a tool where i can see the dependecies of the upstart jobs? like what job listens on what signal and what job relies on which other job
[23:48] <Barridus> main*
[23:48] <ikonia> Benkinooby: the top of the upstart scripts show the deps
[23:48] <Benkinooby> StaRetji, yes. one moment i will paste it to a pastbin
[23:48] <StaRetji> Benkinooby: Thank you!
[23:49] <ubuntu> exit
[23:49] <Benkinooby> ikonia, but still i have to "browse" them one by one?
[23:49] <dev2> I changed my host name.  Now when I try to use sudo I always get a message thats says "sudo : unable to resolve host abcxyz"   How can I fix this?
[23:49] <ikonia> Benkinooby: yes, sorry
[23:49] <jrib> !hostname | dev2
[23:49] <Magnetro> Ikonia, this is that message "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[23:49] <Magnetro> "
[23:49] <Benkinooby> ikonia, why sorry?
[23:49] <ikonia> Magnetro: have you done what the error says ?
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> dev2: you need to have the hostname in /etc/hostname to match the name in /etc/hosts
[23:49] <bcbc2> lilkuz2005: hi
[23:49] <ikonia> Benkinooby: because that's where the detail is
[23:50] <lilkuz2005> hey bcbc2
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> dev2: or you will get the issue you have, you will need to boot to root recovery mode and edit the files with nano so that they match
[23:50] <Magnetro> Don't know how, i'm extremely new to Script languages and such.
[23:50] <Magnetro> I'm at ex-windows users.
[23:50] <lilkuz2005> pm me bcbc2
[23:50] <ikonia> Magnetro: it's not a script language, it gives you the command you need to use in the error message
[23:50] <Magnetro> And we all know all they have to do ism "click, click, click"
[23:50] <Benkinooby> StaRetji, where is that file located?
[23:50] <bryhoyt> I've already asked this, but here it is without my life story ;-) Does grub-reboot need to write something persistent to the root FS, or can I run it from a readonly FS?
[23:50] <ikonia> Benkinooby: it's not in 10.04
[23:51] <StaRetji> Benkinooby: /boot/grub/menu.lst but only with old grub. Well, thx for trying
[23:51] <ikonia> StaRetji: can you please stop asking
[23:51] <Magnetro> Tried what the message said Ikonia..
[23:52] <StaRetji> ikonia: What is your problem? I need menu.lst so that I can edit it. I really don't understand you?
[23:52] <Benkinooby> StaRetji, this is where i was looking first becuase it always used to be there.... sorry. but still that file has to be around
[23:52] <ikonia> StaRetji: 1.) your problem is not supported here 2.) other peoples menus.lst won't work for you - you've been told multiple times, stop asking. what's "your" problem that you can't accept this
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> StaRetji: if you are using grub2, not only does the file not exist but you must edit grub differently
[23:52] <StaRetji> Benkinooby: no worries, thx man
[23:52] <ikonia> Benkinooby: it's not in 10.04
[23:52] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: he's using neogrub on windows, hence not supported
[23:53] <Magnetro> Ikonia what does dpkg, mean?
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: sounds flashy, i gotcha :)
[23:53] <ikonia> Magnetro: dpkg is the package managment tool
[23:53] <Magnetro> Thanks.
[23:53] <Benkinooby> ikonia, hm thank you. maybe i should give 10.10 a try. my 10.04 is alrdy a bit messed up ;) i only have one system, and un know "never touch a running system " ;)
[23:54] <Benkinooby> ikonia, are you on 10.10
[23:54] <ikonia> Benkinooby: not at this exact moment, but I am using it
[23:54] <madjoe> hey guys! what's stockwine?
[23:54] <ikonia> madjoe: nothing to do with ubuntu
[23:55] <madjoe> ikonia: lol are you sure?
[23:55] <ikonia> madjoe: try #winehq
[23:55] <Benkinooby> ikonia, ok. but the upstart should work the same way i guess. just that i don't have the job dependcies all that nice...
[23:55] <madjoe> ok, thanks
[23:55] <Scunizi> What program do you use to convert/edit a .3GP cell video?
[23:55] <ikonia> Benkinooby: it's a later implimentation
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> madjoe: I think you mean "stock wine", usually refers to a clean unchanged install of wine
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: convert to what?
[23:56] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: let's say.. just about anything else.. nothing specific in mind but I want to edit it and then have a choice on the output format
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: ffmpeg -i clip.3gp -f avi -vcodec xvid -acodec mp3 -ar 22050 file.avi      will convert it to avi
[23:56] <Scunizi> nice
[23:57] <madjoe> ActionParsnip: someone wrote on his status something like this: Ubuntu 10.04 + StockWine + rFactor = WIN (so I'm trying to figure out whats StackWine and rFactor)
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> madjoe: never heard of it, could ask in #winehq
[23:57] <Benkinooby> ikonia, thank you. wow you are super busy with answering all that questions. i appreciate that. would you recommend be to use 10.10 as my productive system (laptop for studies)? i know you cant give any warranties or so, but just from your experience.
[23:57] <madjoe> ActionParsnip: thanks
[23:57] <KB1JWQ> Benkinooby: Sure.
[23:57] <ikonia> Benkinooby: seems fine to me
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> Benkinooby: Lucid is supported longer due to being LTS
[23:58] <Benkinooby> ActionParsnip, are LTS also more stable?
[23:58] <aeon-ltd> Benkinooby: yes, but not 'much' more
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> Benkinooby: more effort goes into making them stabler, so i'd say yes.
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> Benkinooby: its also more mature than maverick as it's only been out 9 days
[23:59] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: what package is xvid in?
[23:59] <aeon-ltd> Benkinooby: its just that because its lts, only packages are updated, and nothing but bug fixes happens to the 'core' of ubuntu during the lts period


  I tried to connect and I got connection timeout, but i am on the internet and can access local repositories at Stellenbosch University
[09:09] <dirka23> also im timing out when trying to call apt-get update/install
[09:11] <Banlam> where are you trying to ssh to?
[09:12] <Banlam> and where are you connecting from?
[09:13] <Banlam> I assume you're not usign any proxy settings?
[09:13] <dirka23> Im trying to ssh to a local university server from my dorm room
[09:14] <Banlam> haha
[09:14] <Banlam> to open narga?
[09:14] <Banlam> SSHing on the university network is a nightmare
[09:14] <dirka23> I am using the university proxy settings
[09:14] <dirka23> No into Hydra, one of the CS computers
[09:15] <Banlam> dirka23, remove all your proxy settings
[09:15] <Banlam> they're not required
[09:16] <Banlam> join the IRC server at urpu.sun.ac.za
[09:16] <Banlam> #linux
[09:16] <Banlam> see if anyone there can help you now
[09:16] <Banlam> else Kerbero
[09:16] <Banlam> and bakuman
[09:16] <Banlam> might have some insight
[09:16] <Banlam> I can't remember where you can/can't SSH to on the network there
[09:22] <Kerbero> o
[09:23] <Mezenir> rofl
[09:23] <Kerbero> nee hy sal nie kan nie
[09:24] <Kerbero> daai server is hoogsonwaarskynlik toegelaat deur ou anneries se koshuisfirewall
[09:24] <Mezenir> haai kerbero
[09:24] <Kerbero> dag
[09:25] <Kerbero> stuff you should not get me started on:
[09:25] <Kerbero> 1) Stellenbosch University IT department
[09:25] <Kerbero> 2) People working for the SUN IT
[09:25] <Mezenir> 3) the meaning of life ?
[09:26] <Kerbero> no that is cool
[09:26] <Mezenir> sweet
[10:23] <magespawn> later all
[13:47] <Kilos> afternoon superfly and others
[13:47] <Kilos> getting ready for the weekend are you
[14:34] <kodez> good day every one.
[14:35] <bakuman> good day kodez
[14:35] <kodez> good day bakuman
[14:36] <sakhi> Good day
[14:37] <kodez> good day sakhi
[14:37] <kodez> is there anyone who understands what's happening in the linux 3.4-rc1?
[16:34] <magespawn> Evening all.
[16:35] <superfly> hi magespawn
[16:38] <magespawn> Whats up?
[16:40] <magespawn> One of those nights
[16:48] <superfly> magespawn: nothing much, just had supper
[16:49] <magespawn> Ahh me too almost the perfect part of the evening, which would be just after the kids go to bed
[16:51] <magespawn> http://jerm.co.za/how-i-draw-my-cartoons/ from Allister Otter on Twitter.
[17:41] <superfly> nice
[17:54] <Kilos> hi superfly magespawn and others
[17:55] <Kilos> hi drubin hows things
[17:58] <Kilos> gc, coffee on
[17:58]  * gc flips the salt-timer
[18:02] <superfly> hi Kilos
[18:02] <Kilos> yay
[18:02] <Kilos> was begiining to think if i dont shout i dont get heard
[18:02] <Kilos> hehe
[18:02] <gc> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[18:02] <Kilos> yo nlsthzn
[18:02] <Kilos> gc ty
[18:02] <gc> Enjoy Kilos Just dont make a habit of it ok?
[18:02] <nlsthzn> Hello uncle Kilos
[18:03] <nlsthzn> new bot
[18:03] <Kilos> its magespawn s bot he made for those those few weeks maaz was dead
[18:04] <Kilos> but got no manners this bot
[18:04] <Kilos> needs some teaching
[18:06] <superfly> Kilos: just dealing with family at the moment
[18:06] <Kilos> np superfly
[18:07] <Kilos> yo fukov who gaan dit?
[18:07] <Kilos> hi psydroid
[18:11] <magespawn> Hi kilos nlsthzn just put fish 2 to bed
[18:11] <Kilos> hehe
[18:11] <nlsthzn> cool
[18:11]  * nlsthzn wacthes the bulls
[18:11] <Kilos> sharks game was very disappointing hey nlsthzn ?
[18:12] <Kilos> bulls doing better
[18:12] <nlsthzn> didn't see it uncle Kilos
[18:12] <Kilos> ah
[18:13] <nlsthzn> I am more a bulls supporter than a rugby supporter
[18:13] <Kilos> lol
[18:13] <nlsthzn> but I like it when sa does well
[18:13] <nlsthzn> so I hope the sharks and the stormers can win a few more over there
[18:13] <Kilos> the fly's team are doing great
[18:14] <Kilos> top of the log
[18:14] <magespawn> gc does not have a ups, thats why she goes off every nw and then.
[18:14] <Kilos> ah is that why?
[18:15] <Kilos> its ok old reliable is back again. wonder how long the crash kid gonna be away
[18:27] <superfly> the nouveau drivers are pretty decent
[18:27] <superfly> Kilos: I have a team?
[18:27] <magespawn> Yup electricity in hluhluwe is not reliable.
[18:27] <Kilos> tell me about it superfly
[18:28] <Kilos> oh sorry
[18:29] <Kilos> the stormers from the cold country
[18:30] <Kilos> no as bad as here magespawn power cuts up 2 5 times a day
[18:31] <Banlam> 25 times a day!
[18:31] <Kilos> up to 5 times a day
[18:31] <Banlam> :P
[18:32] <Kilos> sorry head stupid today
[18:32] <Kilos> hi Banlam \
[18:32] <Banlam> i knew what you meant :0
[18:32] <Banlam> :)
[18:32] <Kilos> hehe
[18:32] <Banlam> hey kilos
[18:40] <inetpro> good evening
[18:40] <Kilos> evening inetpro
[18:40] <inetpro> superfly: nouveau drivers are pretty decent?
[18:40] <inetpro> what did you do that makes you say that?
[18:41] <superfly> inetpro: yeah, the latest nVidia drivers slowed mrs_fly's machine down to a crawl
[18:41] <superfly> uninstalled them and let X use Nouveau, and now her machine is perfectly usable
[18:41] <inetpro> cool
[18:41] <superfly> the only difference I noticed was the lack of drop shadows
[18:41] <superfly> but that's hardly a tragedy
[18:51] <magespawn> Handy to have someone around
[18:54] <Kilos> night guys. sleep well
[18:56] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:56] <inetpro> them Bulls are very lucky to get away with a win
[18:59] <nlsthzn> second game they go all limp at the end!!!!
[18:59] <nlsthzn> so frustrating
[19:00] <nlsthzn> back to some 12.04 iso testing
[19:02] <superfly> inetpro: you'll be pleased to know I've reverted to the "Windows" layout
[19:03] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:04] <inetpro> "Windows" layout?
[19:05] <superfly> menu button on the bottom left with a task bar and tray
[19:06] <nlsthzn> boring layout
[19:07]  * nlsthzn hides again :p
[19:07] <nlsthzn> testing ISO's are a pity... everytime something changes start again :(
[19:08]  * inetpro wonders where MS got the idea
[20:10] <magespawn> I out of here, night all.
[20:15] <superfly> urg, so there seems to be a bug in the nvidia driver, cause I just got that issue too