[08:39] <foug> NickGarvey: i found where i should be able to change it, but i don't see it exactly lol
[08:39] <LordLimeca1> NickGarvey: i already have the <IP_ADDRESS> vanilla kernel, compiled it, ran into issues (can ping google.com, but cant browse it)
[08:39] <zcat[1] > I can't get to beryl at the moment either. This machine's using the nv drivers (as mentioned) and the other machine my 10yo is playing secondlife on.
[08:40] <NickGarvey> LordLimeca1: try the chocolate one? (ahaha.. its late forgive my humor)
[08:40] <LordLimeca1> -_-
[08:40] <NickGarvey> LordLimeca1: did you try the one in the repos though?  (I have never compiled a kernel under ubuntu to be honest)
[08:40] <LordLimeca1> i think thats the one i got
[08:40] <LordLimeca1> if not, the one in repos is the same as the image i have
[08:40] <rookie> Question, What is so good about ubuntu, that puts it on the top linux distro?
[08:41] <LordLimeca1> which is currently broken for alsa and booting slow as hell
[08:41] <LordLimeca1> because i done tampered with it -_-
[08:41] <NickGarvey> rookie: personally.. I'd say community..
[08:41] <rookie> NickGarvey, Okay.  I would just.. keep them, unless you have a good reason to get rid of them..
[08:44] <NickGarvey> man I need to get to work on my essay!
[08:44] <qwehnce> NickGarvey, i am a fan of abiword and gnumeric, i have no need for OO
[08:44] <zcat[1] > nutterpc, you'll love feisty. things you didn't even think of trying works too..
[08:44] <NickGarvey> qwehnce: ah I see.. and you can't seem to get rid of open office?
[08:45] <NickGarvey> zcat[1] : feisty is _amazing_..
[08:45] <NickGarvey> zcat[1] : when my kernel isn't broken of course ;)
[08:45] <nutterpc> zcat[1] : here's why I'm happy wit edgy
[08:45] <nutterpc>  16:45:41 up 14 days, 12:34,  1 user,  load average: 0.59, 0.41, 0.38
[08:45] <nutterpc> :)
[08:46] <geekytrent> sup all
[08:46] <wj32> nothing'sup all
[08:47] <geekytrent> so when is feisty suppose to be fully released?
[08:47] <wj32> april 19th
[08:47] <NickGarvey> !feisty | geekytrent
[08:47] <ubotu> geekytrent: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[08:47] <geekytrent> ah ok
[08:47] <NickGarvey> geekytrent: oh it doesn't say the 19th
[08:47] <wj32> we should have a "sticky" or something if thats possible in irc
[08:47] <NickGarvey> geekytrent: but, the rc was pushed back, and the final may be also...
[08:47] <NickGarvey> wj32: we do, its called /title
[08:47] <geekytrent> yeah, i checked at title for it
[08:48] <wj32> "title :Unknown command"
[08:48] <geekytrent> heh
[08:48] <zcat[1] >  /topic perhaps?
[08:48] <wj32> zcat[1] : yep
[08:49] <NickGarvey> wj32: close enough :)
[08:50] <IGxMyzt> hey guys im back
[08:50] <NickGarvey> hooray
[08:50] <green> record my desktop is cool
[08:51] <IGxMyzt> i need help. i tried the alternate cd suggested, and after it installed fully and rebooted, it gave server x graphics error
[08:51] <IGxMyzt> and said no screen found
[08:51] <berent>  which is the best available package for building a php and mysql based website in open source
[08:51] <berent> !website
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about website - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <berent>  which is the best available package for building a php and mysql based website in open source
[08:51] <IGxMyzt> can someone help me?
[08:51] <NickGarvey> berent: easy with the spam...
[08:52] <NickGarvey> berent: and.. what do you mean by that..? you want to integrate php and mysql?
[08:52] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: mm.. so gdm doesn't go?
[08:52] <IGxMyzt> gdm?
[08:52] <berent> NickGarvey : No I want to build a website wherein i can use php as frontend  and mysql as backend
[08:53] <buu> berent: YOU'RE DOOMED
[08:53] <buu> BAHAHAHHA.
[08:53] <NickGarvey> buu: not.. constructive..
[08:53] <EvilDennisR> Que?
[08:53] <NickGarvey> !es EvilDennisR
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es evildennisr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <buu> NickGarvey: But oh so true.
[08:53] <NickGarvey> !es | EvilDennisR
[08:53] <ubotu> EvilDennisR: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:54] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: lol... I was just joking in regards to what buu said =)
[08:54] <NickGarvey> berent: perhaps.. you want..
[08:54] <NickGarvey> !lamp | berent
[08:54] <ubotu> berent: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:54] <KennethP_> berent: sounds like you need a CMS - look here: http://www.opensourcecms.com/
[08:54] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: oh, lo siento, no sabe era un chiste ;)
[08:54] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Nice though... Nice..
[08:54] <EvilDennisR> Que!?
[08:54] <EvilDennisR> I don't actually speak spanish, thats what makes it funny!
[08:55] <IGxMyzt> Dennis: What am I supposed to do?
[08:55] <NickGarvey> veo
[08:55] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: oh yes.. gdm is the gnome display manager
[08:55] <IGxMyzt> yeah i wiki'd it.
[08:55] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: sounds like a graphics card problem.. perhaps you can do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:55] <IGxMyzt> I'm confused, because I wasted two CD-Rs tonight.
[08:55] <EvilDennisR> IGxMyzt: No idea man...
[08:55] <IGxMyzt> nick: im on windows. ubuntu crashes on load
[08:56] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: ah, my casualties have hit 10+
[08:56] <EvilDennisR> Oh come on..
[08:56] <EvilDennisR> CDRs are like a penny a piece..
[08:56] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: oh, drop into a terminal if you can.. do you have another computer?
[08:56] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: $.10 thank you very much
[08:56] <EvilDennisR> I use them as coasters sometimes..
[08:56] <IGxMyzt> i don't have a driver's license.
[08:56] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: me either, got a permit though :)
[08:56] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: well I was going to use the analogy "a dime a dozen", but thats not acurate
[08:56] <shukhrat> hello
[08:57] <shukhrat> !Apache2
[08:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apache2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:57] <NickGarvey> shukhrat: greetings
[08:57] <EvilDennisR> IGxMyzt: So whats the deal.. What happens when you try and startx ?
[08:57] <IGxMyzt> nick: my other pc is on windows, and its not really mine, so i cant mess with it
[08:57] <NickGarvey> !apache | shukhrat
[08:57] <ubotu> shukhrat: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:57] <shukhrat> Thanks
[08:57] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: can you use irc?
[08:57] <IGxMyzt> when i load it up on the other hard drive
[08:57] <NickGarvey> shukhrat: in the future though, you can just "/msg ubotu apache"
[08:57] <IGxMyzt> as soon as it comes up
[08:57] <IGxMyzt> it says Ubuntu and does the yellow bar
[08:57] <EvilDennisR> Yup
[08:57] <EvilDennisR> thats normal..
[08:57] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: its hard to debug ubuntu problems when you aren't running ubuntu
[08:57] <EvilDennisR> what happens when gdm starts up ?
[08:58] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: does it stick? and not move?
[08:58] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: the yellow bar?
[08:58] <IGxMyzt> right after that some weird stuff comes up, some ASCII code in the background forming a square around this:
[08:58] <EvilDennisR> IGxMyzt: Upi
[08:58] <NickGarvey> oh nope
[08:58] <EvilDennisR> ack
[08:58] <EvilDennisR> damn it...
[08:58] <EvilDennisR> not running ubuntu ?
[08:58] <berent> NickGarvey : I want something more than XAMPP where I can select a block and php code is written for creating a block.
[08:58] <IGxMyzt> "Server X (your graphical interface) could not be started. Would you like to view the diagnostics?"
[08:58] <IGxMyzt> the yellow load bar
[08:59] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: could you view them maybe?
[08:59] <NickGarvey> berent: I.. um..
[08:59] <IGxMyzt> i could view them
[08:59] <IGxMyzt> the short one only said
[08:59] <IGxMyzt> mainly
[08:59] <IGxMyzt> no screen found
[08:59] <IGxMyzt> other one was like 20 pages long with stuff i didnt understand
[08:59] <NickGarvey> berent: I doubt.. anyone in here right now knows something like that.. maybe in #web or something..
[08:59] <EvilDennisR> IGxMyzt: What version of ubuntu you using ?
[08:59] <EvilDennisR> pastebin ?
[08:59] <IGxMyzt> 6.10
[08:59] <EvilDennisR> !pastebin
[08:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:00] <EvilDennisR> Whats your output, paste it there
[09:00] <IGxMyzt> Dennis: How can i copy 20 pages if ubuntu crashes?
[09:00] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: get typing (joke)
[09:00] <IGxMyzt> hahah
[09:00] <EvilDennisR> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:00] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: you have a terminal though right?
[09:01] <IGxMyzt> i have what came with 6.10
[09:01] <EvilDennisR> IGxMyzt: yeah, can you hit ctrl+alt+F1 ?
[09:01] <berent> NickGarvey : atleast is there some php site wherein I can see some good examples
[09:01] <EvilDennisR> IGxMyzt: yeah, can you hit ctrl+alt+F1 ... and get a login ?
[09:01] <NickGarvey> berent: google would know better than me, I know some java, thats about it
[09:01] <IGxMyzt> hold on, ill upload an image of what i get
[09:01] <SimonFlavelle> Hey guys, installed Ubuntu like an hour ago, and I'm wondering (because I have two drives, installed it on my smaller C: drive) how I can get my Windows files from my other drive?
[09:01] <NickGarvey> SimonFlavelle: places > computer
[09:01] <NickGarvey> SimonFlavelle: although, I don't see it for me, so one sec
[09:02] <EvilDennisR> SimonFlavelle: mount that shiznit
[09:02] <SimonFlavelle> I tried that earlier. "Unable to mount the selected volume" 'error: device /dev/hdc1 is not removable'
[09:02] <NickGarvey> SimonFlavelle: yikes, could you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[09:02] <EvilDennisR> Sooo.. which drive do you have windowz installed on ?
[09:03] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey is ahead of the curve
[09:03] <SimonFlavelle> D: (my cdrom is E: )
[09:03] <EvilDennisR> then it should be /dev/hdb
[09:03] <EvilDennisR> well, /dev/hdb1
[09:03] <EvilDennisR> or whatever..
[09:03] <NickGarvey> hmm
[09:03] <NickGarvey> SimonFlavelle: probably yeah, but if that doesn't work, please pastebin what I said
[09:03] <SimonFlavelle> Okay
[09:04] <EvilDennisR> didn't ubuntu find that drive for you automagically? whats in /etc/fstab ?
[09:04] <F-nkyMNK> Hey, is there a way to get a 'rescue root prompt' through GRUB?
[09:04] <neshya> ..
[09:05] <EvilDennisR> F-nkyMNK: Yeah... but I can't remember
[09:05] <NickGarvey> mount -a
[09:05] <SimonFlavelle> Here we go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15928/
[09:05] <NickGarvey> F-nkyMNK: google would say I'm sure
[09:05] <SillyG> I'm running linux 9. What makes ubuntu different from linux 9?
[09:05] <NickGarvey> SillyG: linux 9?..
[09:05] <EvilDennisR> SillyG: Linux 9?
[09:05] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Damn you scuba steve!!
[09:05] <SillyG> EvilDennisR: yes
[09:05] <NickGarvey> SimonFlavelle: sudo mkdir /windows && sudo mount /dev/hdc1 /windows
[09:06] <EvilDennisR> SillyG: WTF exactly is linux 9 ?
[09:06] <NickGarvey> SillyG: I honestly.. have never heard of linux 9, and I have tried so many distros..
[09:06] <SimonFlavelle> Thanks, but now apparently I don't have permission to view the drive. :(
[09:06] <NickGarvey> SillyG: but, I hear that www.ubuntu.com is a good place to start
[09:06] <SillyG> im just bored
[09:06] <EvilDennisR> SillyG: You talking about redhat / fedora ?
[09:06] <SillyG> heh
[09:06] <yingfan> what does ubuntu have that debian hasnt? what tools, different packaging system etc?
[09:06] <NickGarvey> SimonFlavelle: pastebin the error please
[09:07] <NickGarvey> yingfan: google my friend, google will tell all
[09:07] <EvilDennisR> yingfan: I use Debian
[09:07] <SillyG> i was talking about the old redhat 9 (shrike)
[09:07] <foug> does anyone know of a media player with a good equalizer? 12+headers atleast if possible
[09:07] <SillyG> ehh i should do something productive
[09:07] <EvilDennisR> SillyG: I'd grab ubuntu
[09:07] <NickGarvey> SillyG: do my essay for english
[09:07] <NickGarvey> SillyG: his idea is probably better though
[09:07] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Jesus dude.. You really sound like me
[09:07] <drumline_> anyone try Scalix here?
[09:08] <SillyG> its ok
[09:08] <mistersir> i'm trying to open/burn some iso images, and i'm getting this error CD-ROM is NOT in ISO 9660 format
[09:08] <mistersir> anyone know why ?
[09:08] <EvilDennisR> SillyG: I've been using Debian since around when it first came out
[09:08] <SillyG> i dont need ubuntu
[09:08] <SillyG> :)
[09:08] <sorcerer22> hey has anyone used cedega .. to play warcraf3 ... coz installed it and stuff but when i try to run it .. umm it says to make sure the cd is in the drive ... could anyone help me with this matter ?
[09:08] <NickGarvey> mistersir: check the md5 for the iso's?
[09:08] <EvilDennisR> SillyG: If you don't need it, then don't use it =)
[09:08] <Rynoo> is there a way to extract .rar archives on ubuntu?
[09:08] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: mount the cd and point wine to it..
[09:08] <mistersir> NickGarvey, no md5
[09:08] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: yous hould follow a tutorial or something, I'm sure there are plenty out there
[09:08] <SimonFlavelle> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15929/
[09:08] <yingfan> well, i don't see anything on google that do "ubuntu vs. debian"
[09:09] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: huh .. wine .. inst cedega like win e?
[09:09] <SillyG> i was banned from this chat a few months ago :(
[09:09] <johnson> install unrar
[09:09] <Steil> if i have lots of large files, would it be more advantageous to use reiser3 or ext3?
[09:09] <drumline_> SillyG: heh.. .why
[09:09] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: of I'm sorry, yes, point cedega to it
[09:10] <SillyG> telling people about the "alt+printscreen+b" bug
[09:10] <SillyG> heh
[09:10] <NickGarvey> SillyG: I hope you got banned
[09:10] <NickGarvey> NO ONE HIT THAT BY THE WAY
[09:10] <sorcerer22> where in cedega does it give you that option .. coz it only detecs it to install i have noticed
[09:10] <drumline_> SillyG: what was that about?
[09:10] <NickGarvey> your kernel will reboot really fast
[09:10] <geekytrent> Steil, i use ext3, but reiserfs is suppose to be good better, but since ext3 is more supported..well, you get my drift
[09:10] <foug> does anyone know of a media player with a good equalizer? 12+headers atleast if possible
[09:10] <mjr> Steil, don't use reiserfs if you care about your data
[09:11] <geekytrent> damn, i can't seem to think tonight..."good better"
[09:11] <SimonFlavelle> NickGarvey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15929/
[09:11] <NickGarvey> drumline_: go into a console (ctrl alt f1), and hit alt + prt scn + space, it will show a list of things, and somes tuff will capitalized
[09:11] <Stickymaddness> mjr, why not use reiserfs?
[09:11] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: alt+printscreen+b crashes ubuntu? Lol
[09:11] <NickGarvey> SimonFlavelle: you used sudo both times?
[09:11] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: if you want to be dumb, try it and find out
[09:11] <Steil> mjr: whats the problem with reiserfs?
[09:11] <mjr> it's just unrealiable
[09:11] <NickGarvey> mjr: eh.. its not that bad..
[09:11] <SimonFlavelle> Yes
[09:11] <foug> !listen
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about listen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:11] <NickGarvey> I perfer ext3 but I'd used reiser
[09:11] <Steil> I've used reiserfs since 2002 without any problems
[09:12] <Steil> i was just wondering about which would give better performance
[09:12] <IGxMyzt> Nick: uploading pic now
[09:12] <Steil> i haven't really been able to find any decent benchmarks
[09:12] <NickGarvey> Steil: theres so many articles on google about it
[09:12] <NickGarvey> Steil: no? really? I read several
[09:12] <Steil> Steil: with a direct comparison to ext3?
[09:12] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: umm this is the error i get mount: special device /dev/hdf does not exist
[09:12] <mjr> I used it once at home, where it went haywire, and once at work as a backup cache disk, but it wasn't reliable enough for that either
[09:12] <kraut> moin
[09:12] <NickGarvey> Steil: http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html
[09:13] <mjr> granted the backup cache disk had lots of activity going on but that's not an excuse. Perchance a normal user doesn't stress the code that much
[09:13] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: it is configured incorrectly, there is nothing in /dev/hdf, it wants the cdo to be in the drive
[09:13] <Juanca> Hi, can you give me some advices for a good partitioning?
[09:13] <NickGarvey> cd*
[09:13] <IGxMyzt> Nick/Dennis: http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pictureqp6.jpg
[09:13] <NickGarvey> !partition | Juanca
[09:13] <ubotu> Juanca: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:13] <sorcerer22> where is that
[09:13] <NickGarvey> Juanca: bah, that was weak
[09:13] <Taime1> how do i tell my wireless card to go back to managed mode?
[09:13] <NickGarvey> Juanca: what are you looking to know?
[09:14] <foug> does anyone use listen media player?
[09:14] <fiery_cleric> Juanca: use fdisk
[09:14] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: run the command "sudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:14] <DennisR> lol
[09:14] <Juanca> no, I'm about to install Ubuntu in a machine, and I will use vmware, what's the best way?
[09:14] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: how do i point it outiam having a difficult time doing that
[09:14] <NickGarvey> Juanca: if you are using vmware, defaults would do it
[09:14] <DennisR> alt+printscreen reboots really fast under debian too ;)
[09:14] <IGxMyzt> nick: how?
[09:15] <NickGarvey> DennisR: it is a command RIGHT to the kernel
[09:15] <DennisR> what is it? alt+printscreen+b ?
[09:15] <Juanca> NickGarvey:  What defaults?
[09:15] <NickGarvey> DennisR: yes
[09:15] <Taime1> i placed my wireless card in rfmon mode, and i cannot remember how to change it back to managed mode...can someone tell me the comand?
[09:15] <NickGarvey> Juanca: the default partitioning scheme that ubuntu has when you install
[09:15] <NickGarvey> Taime1: I think you can with iwconfig
[09:15] <DennisR> NickGarvey: Is it a real reboot thing, or a bug ?
[09:15] <NickGarvey> DennisR: not a bug, it is a kernel feature, I compiled it in myself in the gentoo one
[09:15] <NickGarvey> gentoo kernel*
[09:15] <johnson> it is a kernel feature: alt-sysrq magic keys
[09:16] <NickGarvey> ^ yeah
[09:16] <unimatrix9> has there been any other releases of feisty fawn, after the beta?
[09:16] <Juanca> ubotu: can you give me an advice on this?
[09:16] <NickGarvey> unimatrix9: not yet, things are being straightened out
[09:16] <unimatrix9> or ar we waiting for the freeze of the final?
[09:16] <NickGarvey> Juanca: ubotu is a bot, it is not a real person :)
[09:16] <IGxMyzt> Nick: how do i run sudo without booting ubuntu?
[09:17] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: how do i point it to my ced rom .. iam having a difficult time doing that
[09:17] <NickGarvey> IGxMyzt: you boot ubuntu, go to "ctrl alt f1" after you get that error
[09:17] <DennisR> NickGarvey: heh, that was worth the reboot to find that out =)
[09:17] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: the cd is in?
[09:17] <Juanca> NickGarvey: oh
[09:17] <sorcerer22> yup
[09:17] <unimatrix9> NickGarveym where can i read the top news on that?
[09:17] <IGxMyzt> ty, bbl
[09:17] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: could you pastebin "sudo fdisk -l" please?
[09:17] <NickGarvey> unimatrix9: mm...
[09:18] <NickGarvey> unimatrix9: I would think.. on www.ubuntu.com
[09:19] <unimatrix9> i looked there, but not much news, i also looked on the fridge, planet ubuntu etc...
[09:19] <NickGarvey> unimatrix9: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/pressreleasearchive
[09:19] <unimatrix9> i think you are right, we have to wait for the final round up...
[09:20] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15930/
[09:20] <elumbella> uh, where is the german channel?
[09:20] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: that is with sudo?
[09:20] <dfgas_> anyone use a nvidia geforece go 6100?
[09:20] <sorcerer22> yeah
[09:21] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: your cd isn't there
[09:21] <DennisR> sorcerer22: its not /dev/hdb ?
[09:21] <DennisR> or hdc ?
[09:21] <NickGarvey> DennisR: look at his fdisk, its just plain not there
[09:21] <DennisR> Well, thats an issue
[09:22] <NickGarvey> indeed
[09:22] <NickGarvey> so is my essay not being done
[09:22] <DennisR> NickGarvey: Whats your essay on..
[09:22] <NickGarvey> DennisR: alice in wonderland /headdesk
[09:22] <DennisR> wtf?
[09:22] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: so that means its not reodnizing my dvd drive ?
[09:23] <DennisR> NickGarvey: Who the hell has you write a paper on alice in wonderland ?
[09:23] <NickGarvey> DennisR: honors english for 11th grade.. alice in wonderland.. I don't see the connection either
[09:23] <sorcerer22> i mean the game installed throught cedega ?
[09:23] <DennisR> sorcerer22: Oh so its a dvd drive ?
[09:23] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: yes, which is what is confusing me
[09:23] <sorcerer22> DennisR: yeah it is
[09:23] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: could you pastebin /etc/fstab?
[09:23] <geekytrent> umm, didn't he just post it?
[09:24] <DennisR> NickGarvey: Make it all dark, like that Alice video game.
[09:24] <NickGarvey> geekytrent: no, sudo fdisk -l
[09:24] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: gave me a erros
[09:24] <geekytrent> oh
[09:24] <sorcerer22> its just /etc/fstab right
[09:24] <DennisR> yeah
[09:24] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: "sudo more /etc/fstab"
[09:25] <__hase> Since I have a USB mouse is there a way to turn off my mouse pad since I keep hitting it with my thumb while I type....
[09:25] <DennisR> NickGarvey: If you were me, and you're not which is a shame..  I'm a developer in #pidgin.. That is a PG channel. You can say SHIT in a PG Movie.
[09:26] <__hase> well
[09:26] <__hase> I wouldn
[09:26] <__hase> 't mind turning it off every time i turned the com,puter on
[09:26] <NickGarvey> DennisR: nice man, I use gaim for everything, and ops are a bit more picky here
[09:26] <drumline_> It's a Parental Guidance channel.
[09:27] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey:  hey is that what you wanted to see?
[09:27] <DennisR> NickGarvey: Its ok =)
[09:27] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: yes, it should be /dev/hdf
[09:27] <__hase> Is this channel family friendly?  Really?
[09:27] <NickGarvey> __hase: /msg ubotu coc
[09:27] <ardchoille> DennisR: This is not a PG movie, it is a support channel.. and I have an 8 year old niece who frequents this channel. Please keep it family-friendly.
[09:27] <unimatrix9> this is really cool, an pdf magazine about the histroy ( young ) of ubuntu
[09:27] <DennisR> __hase: it means you can't go around saying fsckidy fsck fsck fsck..
[09:27] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: so what should i do . to make it that in cedega ?
[09:27] <unimatrix9> any one interested?
[09:28] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: it seemed.. that is where it was looking.. is the cd in the drive?
[09:28] <unimatrix9> its an free download
[09:28] <__hase> Well, regardless, does anyone know how to turn off the touchpad on a laptop under ubuntu?
[09:28] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: yeah it is inthe drive
[09:28] <unimatrix9> _hase, just insert an usb mouse?
[09:28] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: figured I'd give it a shot..
[09:28] <__hase> nope
[09:28] <__hase> have both
[09:28] <corden> any ubuntu user here who is using vmware to run other distro?
[09:28] <unimatrix9> history of ubuntu , free magazine....
[09:28] <unimatrix9> http://www.fullcirclemagazine.org/
[09:28] <unimatrix9> pdf download, really cool
[09:28] <DennisR> ardchoille: Believe me.. Go hang out in #guifications for a while... You'll hear the stuff I say all the time
[09:29] <corden> or ubuntu inside thw vmware
[09:29] <DennisR> corden: I run XP under vmware on my ubuntu box at work
[09:29] <unimatrix9> _hase, i think you can comment the mouse out in xorg config
[09:29] <DennisR> corden: Not quite the same thing..
[09:29] <drumline_> unimatrix9: we should be able to turn off the pad with the button that comes on the laptop...  using a USB mouse shouldn't be the only solution to that.
[09:29] <`> corden what's ur mean/
[09:29] <unimatrix9> but be sure to back up the old conf
[09:30] <Fafner> hi all, is there an easy way to get rdp server running under ubuntu?
[09:30] <NickGarvey> corden: what do you need regarding vmware?
[09:30] <crolle17> which command shows me the charset of a file?
[09:30] <VSpike> corden: I'm running that distro from Redmond :)
[09:30] <unimatrix9> cool magazine , last offer...http://www.fullcirclemagazine.org/
[09:30] <DennisR> NickGarvey: You still should of gotten someone else in your class to write your paper ;)
[09:30] <unimatrix9> :)
[09:30] <igknighted> anybody here know anything about setting up servers?
[09:31] <crolle17> tried file my_file.html but didn't work
[09:31] <NickGarvey> !anybody
[09:31] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:31] <corden> I just ask a ##linux channel on that distro to quad boot. Currently I have XP and UBuntu, since Im addict to linux now i wan to see the other distro
[09:31] <corden> somebody suggest vmware
[09:31] <unimatrix9> corden , no osx?
[09:31] <unimatrix9> :P
[09:31] <NickGarvey> corden: ahah yes, I wished someone told me about that a while ago, I used SO many cdr on linux distros
[09:31] <wj32> DennisR: alt+sysrq+b is nearly equivalent to pressing the reset button on your pc
[09:31] <__hase> there's no button on my laptop about that
[09:31] <`> i had installed FC on ubuntu
[09:31] <igknighted> haha, ok, that kinda was my main question... i have the lamp server up and running, my struggles now are getting a domain name
[09:32] <corden> Specially now im happy with my work cause I'm using UBuntu 8 hours/day :)
[09:32] <__hase> =(
[09:32] <crolle17> which command shows me the charset of a file?
[09:32] <drumline_> VMWare is definitely nice
[09:32] <NickGarvey> igknighted: its very very easy to do
[09:32] <DennisR> wj32: I realize that now.. I was completely unaware of it until now though..
[09:32] <wj32> DennisR: doesn't cleanly unmount your filesystems, doesn't cleanly terminate processes
[09:32] <corden> Im currelty installing it
[09:32] <wj32> DennisR: ok
[09:32] <drumline_> If you want those VMs to run smoothly though, you should have lots of RAM and force the entire thing into memory
[09:32] <NickGarvey> 2G ftw
[09:32] <Zoiks> can someone give me a help with a silly little problem?
[09:32] <DennisR> wj32: Don't worry, I'm not a linux newbe ;)
[09:32] <NickGarvey> Zoiks: ask away
[09:32] <DennisR> Zoiks: No!
[09:33] <unimatrix9> go ahead and ask!
[09:33] <DennisR> heh
[09:33] <Zoiks> lol NickGarvey
[09:33] <Zoiks> when I try and open up help documents or links from programs
[09:33] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: I don't see you.. under the pigdin devs
[09:33] <unimatrix9> DennisR, dont use the darkforce...
[09:33] <corden> unimatrix, i think my pc wont pass the system req. I'm just using P3 800 256mb
[09:33] <NickGarvey> corden: mm.. vmware might make it explode..
[09:34] <crolle17> tried file my_file.html but didn't work
[09:34] <Zoiks> swiftfox often tries to go to a website but with the incorrect url
[09:34] <Zoiks> eg
[09:34] <NickGarvey> corden: unless its like dsl
[09:34] <`> corden: o?
[09:34] <NickGarvey> Zoiks: I don't totally understand
[09:34] <Zoiks> file:///home/matt/%22http://musicbrainz.org:80/taglookup.html?tport=8000&artist=Red%20Hot%20Chili%20Peppers&release=Greatest%20Hits&track=&tracknum=0&duration=0&filename=&puid=%22
[09:34] <ashcb> will ubuntu run on microsoft virtual pc ?  it seems to hang for me when installing
[09:34] <unimatrix9> corden : for vmware and virtual machines : 512 ram at least
[09:34] <unimatrix9> ram is cheap
[09:34] <NickGarvey> `: thats a crazy obnoxious user name
[09:34] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: I'm in #pidgin.. I wrote the man page many a years ago.. I do dev testing stuff mostely now a days
[09:34] <corden> waaaaaaaaaaa
[09:34] <qwehnce> while trying to remove ttf-opensymbol, apt-get returns the error failed to write cache
[09:34] <unimatrix9> corden, you have an low end machine!
[09:34] <corden> but dont worry Im at the office now it has 512 :)
[09:35] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: http://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=235 that was where I was looking
[09:35] <qwehnce> fontconfig cache returns failed to write cache
[09:35] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: http://dennisr.net/gaim/
[09:35] <drumline_> corden: if you want to run 4 linuxes at once, you should have over 1Gig of Memory
[09:35] <Zoiks> so it tries to open up the right site
[09:35] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Nah, I'm not on there
[09:35] <corden> it sempron here at its a lap top --- have problem with lap top :)
[09:35] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: but, I do see you in the man page :)
[09:35] <unimatrix9> corden ; it will run ubuntu fine, but not the virtual machines though
[09:35] <Zoiks> but puts a file:///home/matt/%22
[09:35] <Zoiks> in front of the correct url
[09:35] <igknighted> NickGarvey, I'm on a site where I am registering a domain, but it needs to know dns servers, and I'm not sure what to put
[09:36] <corden> tnx for the info guys
[09:36] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: I don't contribute anything significant anymore to be on that page ;)
[09:36] <NickGarvey> igknighted: why does it need those?
[09:36] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: ah I see :), well either way, gaim/pidgin is good stuff
[09:36] <corden> i guess i ned to save money to buy new pc :)
[09:36] <crolle17> nobody knows the command for getting the charset of a file?
[09:36] <Zoiks> any idea guys?
[09:36] <NickGarvey> crolle17: perhaps.. "charset"
[09:36] <dreamcastjack> do I need a Anti-Virus/Spyware remover for Linux?
[09:36] <NickGarvey> crolle17: doesn't look like it though...
[09:37] <NickGarvey> !virus | dreamcastjack
[09:37] <ubotu> dreamcastjack: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[09:37] <igknighted> haha, that I dont know :)
[09:37] <igknighted> it says:  If you're hosting these domains elsewhere, click here to set nameservers.
[09:37] <NickGarvey> igknighted: I don't think I needed any when I set up mien...
[09:37] <`> dreamcastjack: no need i think
[09:37] <igknighted> where did you register your domain?
[09:37] <dreamcastjack> thanks guys
[09:37] <crolle17> NickGarvey unfortunately not.
[09:37] <`> dreamcastjack: just setup ur firewall
[09:38] <crolle17> NickGarvey reading the man:  Set an ACM for use in one of the G0/G1 charset slots.
[09:38] <crolle17> just only wanna read the charset of a file
[09:38] <NickGarvey> crolle17: yeah, hm
[09:38] <Zoiks> NickGarvey: any idea?
[09:38] <ashcb> bye
[09:39] <ashcb> quit
[09:39] <NickGarvey> crolle17: file didn't work? seems to have worked for me..
[09:39] <crolle17> no
[09:39] <EvilDennisR> ashcb: /quit
[09:39] <crolle17> only for text-files
[09:39] <NickGarvey> Zoiks: that would be... poor html file writing more than anything
[09:40] <crolle17> besides file just only determines the file type for getting the information which program to use for opening
[09:40] <EvilDennisR> Zoiks: what are you trying to do ?
[09:40] <Zoiks> EvilDennisR: im trying to use MusicBrainz Picard but I have seen the same issue in another program before
[09:41] <unimatrix9> the history of ubuntu magazine pdf format ( nice read! ) http://www.fullcirclemagazine.org/
[09:41] <EvilDennisR> Zoiks: No idea.. never use it
[09:42] <EvilDennisR> hrrm... I should go to sleep
[09:42] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: night :)
[09:42] <cat> hey everyone can someone tell me which release version is the testing on ubuntu?
[09:42] <cat> because in debian is etch
[09:42] <crolle17> anybody else an idea how to read the charset of a file?
[09:42] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Keyword here was *should*
[09:42] <NickGarvey> cat: feisty
[09:43] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: hah, exactly how I am
[09:43] <dreamcastjack> when the 19th strolls around I just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[09:43] <NickGarvey> !upgrade| dreamcastjack
[09:43] <ubotu> dreamcastjack: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:44] <EvilDennisR> cat: hrrm.. For some reason I thought etch was unstable, but you're right.. I'm using sid (unstable)
[09:45] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: etch came out recently if I recall
[09:45] <NickGarvey> I almost had a heart attack
[09:45] <cat> lol
[09:45] <Dandre> Hello,
[09:45] <EvilDennisR> I've been using sid forever
[09:45] <EvilDennisR> Good ol' Sid... Like to destroy Toys..
[09:45] <NickGarvey> Dandre: greetings
[09:45] <Dandre> I have a problem with my ubuntu under gnome:
[09:45] <EvilDennisR> A man after my own heart
[09:45] <NickGarvey> Dandre: do share
[09:46] <romeomajk> Could any1 help me out? I am suddenly unable to Add tomboy notes to my pannel...
[09:46] <igknighted> EvilDennisR, have you tried Sidux? makes Sid much more pleasant :)
[09:46] <Halitech> Dandre what kind of problems?
[09:46] <Dandre> when I use it locally, no problem but if I use it remotely from an xserver I have long login timeout
[09:46] <Halitech> Dandre are you still logged in locally?
[09:47] <NickGarvey> Dandre: xdmcp login?
[09:47] <EvilDennisR> igknighted: Nah.. I don't have any issues with sid.. if I do, I usually waste time on fixing it
[09:47] <Dandre> Halitech: No
[09:47] <Halitech> Dandre router or any other firewall hardware or software?
[09:47] <Dandre> the login screen is fine but after authenticating there is a long timeout
[09:48] <romeomajk> I get: The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:ToboyApplet". Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration?...
[09:48] <Dandre> Halitech: I am on the same physical network
[09:48] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Now the real question is... Do I go to sleep, and possibly lay in bed for a while until I fall asleep.. or do I make another drink so that I definitely pass the hell(fsck) right out
[09:49] <Halitech> Dandre what program are you using to connect?
[09:49] <xjkx> Does the normal ubuntu cd installs on SATA hds? i mean with no internet access and not interested to get another cd
[09:49] <Dandre> if I run  'gksu /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator', I get this error:
[09:49] <Dandre> (gnome-terminal:6643): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[09:49] <Dandre> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[09:49] <Dandre> I use gdm
[09:49] <EvilDennisR> Dandre: Don't paste in the channel
[09:49] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: I'm a choice #3 kinda guy
[09:49] <EvilDennisR> !pastebin ?
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <EvilDennisR> !pastebin
[09:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:49] <eck> xjkx: it should be fine
[09:50] <EvilDennisR> pos..
[09:50] <crimsun> xjkx: yes. It's a single-CD install.
[09:50] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: I already watched porn earlier, so its have a drink or to not have a drink
[09:50] <xjkx> crimsun how do i do? its the same default instalation?
[09:50] <Halitech> Dandre have you tried using vncviewer to connect?
[09:50] <crimsun> xjkx: just boot off the CD.
[09:50] <Dandre> sorry EvilDennisR but it wasn't a very long paste
[09:51] <crolle17> hey guys don't let me go under.
[09:51] <EvilDennisR> Dandre: I know.. Just for future reference ;)
[09:51] <Dandre> ok thanks ;-)
[09:51] <NickGarvey> Dandre: yeah not a big issue, but >2 lines, a pastebin is a good idea so ops don't have a seizure
[09:51] <EvilDennisR> Dandre: I'm just kinda hanging out in here, so it doesn't matter to me either way.. if I didn't say it, someone else would have
[09:51] <foug> when i play videos it's really laggy. Trying to watch a .avi in I think totem, should i maybe try a different program?
[09:51] <NickGarvey> that someone woulda been me, but I would have piped it
[09:51] <EvilDennisR> foug: mplayer
[09:51] <Halitech> foug try vlc
[09:52] <NickGarvey> foug: dma on?
[09:52] <foug> NickGarvey: how do i check that?
[09:52] <eck> foug: maybe, but pretty much all the video players use the same video decoding library (libavcodec)
[09:52] <NickGarvey> foug: hdparm -d /dev/hda
[09:52] <Dandre> should I install vncserver Halitech?
[09:52] <xjkx> how is ubuntu hardware's compatibility? I know it supports many hardware, is there a kind of hardware it doesnt support i should know?
[09:52] <tolonuga> hi. maybe someone knows: can I "debootstrap" fisty with the etgy version of debootstrap? I only want to check if my software compiles under dapper, edgy, feisty, sarge and etch...
[09:52] <foug> Halitech: i did and it still lags when i go to full screen
[09:52] <Halitech> Dandre I was using it when I had my network setup and didn't have any problems so might be worth a shot
[09:53] <NickGarvey> tolonuga: honestly, that question is probably more complicated than people in this channel know right now (unless someone can prove me wrong, please do)
[09:53] <foug> NickGarvey: permissoin denied
[09:53] <crimsun> tolonuga: yes, and then --override-config up to feisty
[09:53] <NickGarvey> foug: sudo!
[09:53] <eck> foug: you will probably get very similar performance from all of them for that reason
[09:53] <foug> eck: how do i unlag my vids?
[09:53] <eck> NickGarvey: i think the cpu is more likely to be the issue than the hdd
[09:53] <crimsun> tolonuga: err, sorry, misparsed that as pbuilder. But yes, you can.
[09:53] <Halitech> foug which version and what do you have for a system? (ie, cpu and ram)
[09:53] <eck> foug: find out what the bottleneck is
[09:53] <NickGarvey> eck: which is why I would just dma
[09:53] <foug> NickGarvey: it's on
[09:53] <tolonuga> great, thanks!
[09:53] <eck> foug: if your cpu usage is maxed out, then there isn't much you can do
[09:53] <NickGarvey> eck: because it goes through the cpu if it isn't
[09:54] <foug> Halitech: 1.8 ahtlon xp, 1gig of ram, 6800gs video card. My stuff never lagged in Windows
[09:54] <foug> eck: it's not even using 20%
[09:54] <Halitech> foug sounds like a dma issue to me
[09:54] <foug> Halitech: which is fixed how
[09:54] <NickGarvey> Halitech: he said its on though..
[09:54] <Dandre> Halitech: I don't have anything listening a port 5900. I haven't found a good vnc server though
[09:55] <xjkx> where can i check unsupported hardware?
[09:55] <xjkx> list*
[09:55] <foug> and yes my dma is on, it = 1
[09:55] <crolle17> How To Read The Charset Of a File?
[09:55] <Dandre> NickGarvey: what do you mean about xdmcp login?
[09:55] <Halitech> foug sorry, missed where you said it ws on
[09:55] <eck> foug: use hdparm -tT (or whatever it is) to check your hdd bandwidth
[09:55] <NickGarvey> Dandre: um.. I was wondering how you were logging in
[09:55] <foug> Halitech: it's np
[09:56] <foug> eck: do i type sudo first
[09:56] <Halitech> Dandre sudo apt-get install xvncserver
[09:56] <eck> foug: i'm not sure, just try it both ways :-)
[09:56] <EvilDennisR> Halitech: vino-server ?
[09:56] <arooni> how can i download MP3s?
[09:56] <foug> eck: i did it without and it listed a bunch of stuff, the alhphabet...lol
[09:56] <Halitech> EvilDennisR I just used vncserver
[09:57] <EvilDennisR> arooni: what kinda question is that ?
[09:57] <arooni> heh welll i mean
[09:57] <eck> foug: oh, you need to put the drive as the target
[09:57] <eck> foug: e.g. sudo hdparm -tT /dev/dsa
[09:57] <arooni> what is the kazaa /bittorrent equivalent
[09:57] <eck> sda rather
[09:57] <Dandre> Halitech: I have done it but I can login with that, and I haven't found how to have my gnome desktop with vnc
[09:57] <arooni> on ubuntu
[09:57] <Halitech> arooni bittorrent
[09:57] <NickGarvey> arooni: the bittorrent equivelent is bittorrent, although I am SURE you are doing all of this legally
[09:57] <Flannel> arooni: bittorrent is available for linux.  Ubuntu comes with bittornado already
[09:57] <foug> eck: what would that look like? i'm a big noob, sry
[09:57] <arooni> yes
[09:57] <EvilDennisR> Dandre: vino-server
[09:57] <arooni> i only want legal mp3s
[09:58] <arooni> isnt there a really popular open source file sharing thing
[09:58] <NickGarvey> :)
[09:58] <arooni> azaareus or something
[09:58] <NickGarvey> !frostwire | arooni
[09:58] <ubotu> arooni: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:58] <aubade> arooni: Hold on a second. X)
[09:58] <EvilDennisR> Dandre: Should come already with ubuntu
[09:58] <eck> foug: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15938/
[09:58] <Halitech> Dandre wish my network was still up but maybe try the vino-server that evildennis is talking about
[09:59] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: You convinced me... I'll go make another capatain and coke zero
[09:59] <aubade> Ah nevermind, I'll never remember the name of that start-up that was strictly free music. lol
[09:59] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: good choice :)
[09:59] <EvilDennisR> s/capatain/captain/
[09:59] <aubade> There's what is in public domain over @ archive.org.
[09:59] <Halitech> Dandre I think I used xvncviewer ipaddress:1
[09:59] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: In a tall frosty pint glass straight from the freezer.. Along with the tall frosty captain bottle, also straight from the freezer..
[09:59] <arooni> so this azareus thing
[09:59] <arooni> doenst exist?
[09:59] <Flannel> !azureus | arooni
[09:59] <ubotu> arooni: azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[10:00] <EvilDennisR> Dandre: ipaddress:0
[10:00] <eck> foug: if it looks even reasonably close to those numbers you are fine... you could try another video player like mplayer, but i'm not really sure what the problem is so i'm not sure if that would help
[10:00] <Halitech> arooni yes it does
[10:00] <Dandre> as far as I understand, there must be a local session to use vino
[10:00] <arooni> ahhh
[10:00] <crolle17> How To Read The Charset Of a File?
[10:00] <foug> eck: mine did good,http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15939/
[10:00] <xjkx> Flannel do you know how azureus is an EXE on windows, even though its java?
[10:00] <EvilDennisR> Dandre: yeah.. If you fire up vino-server it will run a vnc server on the local client
[10:00] <eck> foug: yeah, mine is a 4800 rpm hard drive or something like that :-)
[10:00] <EvilDennisR> Dandre: So what are you exactly trying to do? View a server, or setup a server on your local machine that you CAN view ?
[10:01] <k6rfm> crolle17,  well, unless the file is self-identfying like MIME or has a provenance, it's just guessing
[10:01] <foug> eck: :D
[10:01] <foug> eck: brb
[10:01] <EvilDennisR> Dandre: think about that, and let me know while i go get a drink..
[10:01] <k6rfm> crolle17, in UNIX files are just bits
[10:01] <Dandre> I want to use my ubuntu remote from my desktop w/o login locally either vnc or xwindow
[10:02] <Flannel> xjkx: the .exe is just a wrapper that calls the jar file
[10:02] <Flannel> Dandre: ssh?
[10:03] <F-nkyMNK> Anyone know how to force an NTP update?
[10:03] <Flannel> F-nkyMNK: ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[10:03] <Steil> Dandre: if you want graphical interface, setup gdm to allow remote connections
[10:03] <eck> F-nkyMNK: i think you might have to have the ntpd stopped to issue an ntpdate
[10:04] <Flannel> F-nkyMNK: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/NTP.html  I suggest ntpd over ntpdate (and cron)
[10:04] <F-nkyMNK> Flannel: Sweet, thanks mate
[10:04] <F-nkyMNK> eck & Flannel: That worked a treat
[10:04] <arooni> whats limewire
[10:04] <aknot> hi :) anyone have any good tip on network installation on laptop without cd and pcmcia nic??
[10:04] <Dandre> NickGarvey: I have installed cygwin on my winxp and I was trying to login with wdmcp. I get the login screen correctly but after authenticating, I have a ~5 min timeout ending with a gnome desktop but with an error complaining about gcond error
[10:04] <eck> aknot: if your computer supports pxe boot that is an option
[10:05] <crolle17> k6rfm you mean tehre is no command for this?
[10:05] <aknot> eck: it doesnt :/
[10:05] <Flannel> Dandre: Youre on the same subnet, right?  both behind the same router, etc?
[10:05] <crolle17> there
[10:05] <eck> aknot: also, if you already have linux installed you can use grub to boot the contents of an iso, that is how i installed on my cd-less laptop
[10:05] <NickGarvey> Dandre: on the ubuntu machine, make sure you enable remote logins
[10:05] <Dandre> Flannel: yes the same subnet
[10:05] <eck> aknot: (well originally i used a usb cd drive)
[10:05] <EvilDennisR> I'm back baby </Bender>
[10:05] <k6rfm> crolle17, no, not in general.
[10:05] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: hey mate you there ..
[10:05] <Flannel> Dandre: you'll need to make sure you've allowed connections between the two via UDP
[10:05] <Dandre> NickGarvey: it is enabled
[10:06] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: yup
[10:06] <aknot> eck: i have fiddled abit with that but busybox hangs during boot and i cant mount the hdd where iso is placed
[10:06] <foug> eck: is there a way to install mplayer through the terminal?
[10:06] <eck> foug: apt-get install mplayer
[10:06] <eck> foug: it is in multiverse
[10:06] <crolle17> k6rfm but file is able to do this job (for simple text-files)
[10:06] <foug> eck: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[10:06] <eck> aknot: do you just have windows on the computer right now?
[10:06] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: mate .. whats going on i still get the error saying insert disk ..
[10:06] <eck> foug: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[10:06] <foug> eck: i think i have the right repositories, hmm
[10:07] <aknot> eck: nopes running deb4.0
[10:07] <foug> eck: ahh yea that worked
[10:07] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: um.. mm.. is cedega running as root?
[10:07] <arooni> hmmm
[10:07] <aknot> eck: i also have an usb cd....but not the iso file burnt on it
[10:07] <eck> aknot: grab the network boot.iso, put the contents on the debian partition, and point grub at its kernel/initrd
[10:07] <sorcerer22> how do i check that
[10:07] <arooni> i cant run frostwire with java: java version "1.5.0_08"
[10:08] <eck> aknot: it will boot up like you used a cd
[10:08] <EvilDennisR> One thing I wasn't sure I liked about ubuntu is having to use sudo for everything.. Now I know you can get a shell with sudo, but theres something just not right about not using the root account.. Thats the first thing I fixed after I installed, I made root a real user that I could su
[10:08] <Flannel> !install | aknot
[10:08] <ubotu> aknot: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[10:08] <arooni> any suggestions
[10:08] <Flannel> arooni: first link there has a netboot walkthrough thing
[10:08] <aknot> eck: i do have that in menu.lst but i cant find a networkboot iso
[10:08] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: how do i check that out
[10:08] <eck> aknot: of course, you should do the partitioning beforehand
[10:08] <foug> eck: hmm, still lags
[10:08] <arooni> Flannel: are u talking about: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:08] <eck> aknot: let me see, i have it bookmarked
[10:08] <Flannel> arooni: make sure you're using sun's java, not blackdown or whatever
[10:08] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: are you doing gksudo cedega?
[10:09] <Flannel> aknot: first link there has a netboot walkthrough thing
[10:09] <sorcerer22> no iam running from the gui
[10:09] <Flannel> arooni: sorry, that last one was supposed to go to him
[10:09] <Halitech> EvilDennisR I've never used any other version but to me, I can see the sense of it so we don't open a terminal, forget we logged in as root and then royally mess up
[10:09] <arooni> Flannel: i am using sun's java.... version 1.5.something
[10:09] <sorcerer22> NickGarvey: iam runningit as a gui
[10:10] <Flannel> arooni: then I have no idea.  Make sure you didn't skip anything on that page
[10:10] <eck> aknot: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[10:10] <wolke> hi! how can i password-protect a zip file?
[10:10] <NickGarvey> sorcerer22: perhaps, #cedega would help
[10:10] <EvilDennisR> Halitech: This is true.. Using sudo really does put "i'm a retard" into the equation
[10:10] <aknot> thx dewds will chk it
[10:10] <eck> aknot: either the boot.iso or the tarball will do
[10:10] <NickGarvey> wolke: zip -P
[10:10] <Dandre> Flannel: how should I allow connections between via UDP?
[10:11] <foug> in the terminal called terminal in all linux distros?
[10:11] <wolke> NickGarvey: I know. But if a file is zipped already
[10:11] <EvilDennisR> Halitech: Which, putting "i'm a retard" into the equation, really isn't such a bad thing when you want inexperienced users to use your platform.
[10:11] <NickGarvey> wolke: oh, um.. unzip it.. and then.. rezip it?
[10:11] <Halitech> EvilDennisR true but at least it's not as annoying as the vista POPUPS
[10:11] <Flannel> EvilDennisR: there are plenty of real benefits of using sudo over root.
[10:11] <NickGarvey> Halitech: allow or deny?
[10:11] <eck> foug: there are lots of different terminal emulators...
[10:11] <wj32> NickGarvey has asked a question. Cancel or Allow?
[10:11] <eck> foug: generally they are all just called "terminals" though
[10:11] <wj32> (thats more like it)
[10:11] <EvilDennisR> Halitech: AHH! LA LA LA! CAN'T HEAR YOU! *Covers Ears*
[10:11] <Halitech> NickGarvey ok, you owe me a monitor cleaning ~L~
[10:12] <foug> eck: the terminal emulates what
[10:12] <Flannel> Dandre: it should be allowed by default.  But if you have any firewall sorts of things, you'll have to make sure.  I think with norton you have to put something about the other computer on a "trusted" list or ... someting.  I dont really remember.
[10:12] <EvilDennisR> Flannel: ...Such as?
[10:12] <eck> foug: a serial terminal
[10:12] <Flannel> !sudo | EvilDennisR
[10:12] <ubotu> EvilDennisR: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:12] <aknot> eck: reminds me, there aint any networkboot floppies around with pcmcia support???
[10:12] <foug> eck:  thanks
[10:12] <EvilDennisR> Flannel: Dude, I know what sudo does
[10:12] <wolke> NickGarvey: And how can i add more than one file to one archive?
[10:12] <Flannel> EvilDennisR: read that page.  Stuff like graduated permissions
[10:12] <Flannel> EvilDennisR: there's a link there.
[10:12] <wj32> ubotu: ALL information? That's wrong.
[10:12] <NickGarvey> wolke: uh.. I tend to toss it in a folder..
[10:12] <eck> foug: one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vt100
[10:12] <NickGarvey> wolke: and zip the folder
[10:13] <wolke> NickGarvey: Good Idea. Thanks
[10:13] <eck> aknot: i have never tried a floppy install, i'm not sure
[10:13] <xjkx> Flannel and this wrapper is written in C ? is this wrapper opensource?
[10:13] <foug> eck: right on
[10:13] <Flannel> xjkx: I have no idea.  I imagine it's open source, yes.  You'd have to ask the azureus people, or just check the source
[10:13] <EvilDennisR> Flannel: I've been using Linux for 12+ years, and Debian for ~10.. That includes using root as a user, and I have yet to have a problem ;)
[10:14] <aknot> eck:  okido will fiddle some then and see if i can get it working
[10:14] <Flannel> EvilDennisR: just because you've been usnig something, doesn't mean there aren't better things out there.
[10:14] <aknot> eck: thx mate
[10:14] <EvilDennisR> Flannel: I'm not doubting you..
[10:15] <EvilDennisR> Flannel: But what I've been doing thus far hasn't failed me yet
[10:15] <Halitech> I do have a question, I currently have 6.06 installed on a 30 gig drive with a duron 1.3, I just bought a P4 1.8 and a 60 gig drive, should I wait a week till fiesty is out and do a clean install on the 60 with the new to me board or would I be able to swap the boards and have it boot okay?
[10:15] <fiction> How do i register my name?
[10:15] <xjkx> where is the minium recommended list to install? like memory, hd...
[10:15] <EvilDennisR> Flannel: I'm sure there are advantages to using it with systems that have more than one user with root access..
[10:15] <drumline_> Halitech: why would you personally want to wait for Feisty?
[10:15] <fiction> register my name on irc, that is
[10:16] <drumline_> Halitech: is there any feature that you want?
[10:16] <Flannel> EvilDennisR: shrug.  The benefit of a single-person box is that to crack your box, they have to figure out username and password.  with root enabled, they already have half of that
[10:16] <LordLimecat> !ubuntu
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[10:16] <LordLimecat> er
[10:16] <LordLimecat> !paste
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[10:17] <Halitech> drumline: not really sure on any of the new features so thats why I'm asking if it will boot okay or will I need to do a fresh install and should I go with fiesty
[10:17] <EvilDennisR> Flannel: Not questioning your judgement
[10:17] <EvilDennisR> Flannel: But if they crack a user with sudo access, whats the difference from that vs a root passwd ?
[10:18] <joshjosh> problem: Won't recognize USB devices (mouse, iPod etc) if they're plugged in after bootup...if they're plugged n during, it works fine. Any idaes?
[10:18] <LordLimecat> if anyone wants to take a crack @ it, heres the error i get on make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd  etc
[10:18] <LordLimecat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15943/
[10:18] <Flannel> EvilDennisR: there is none.  But if they cracked your root password, they'd have your box anyway.
[10:18] <LordLimecat> really just want this to compile right -_-
[10:18] <netusr01> i hav a prob with my ubuntu - can anyone help ?
[10:19] <NickGarvey> !anyone
[10:19] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:19] <LordLimecat> !ask
[10:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:19] <EvilDennisR> Flannel: You are correct. If they cracked a user with sudo access, they'd have your box anyways as well.. I don't see a difference.
[10:19] <drumline_> Halitech: is this a desktop or a server?
[10:19] <Dandre> Flannel: I have disabled my FW and know I can gksu w/o problem. I am login off and on to see if thos fixes my login issue, thanx
[10:19] <NickGarvey> Halitech: feisty is still beta, no promises everything will work fine
[10:19] <Halitech> drumline: desktop mainly but I do run apache for personal use
[10:20] <DVS01> after installing ubuntu and trying to boot up, i get an error. after "* Mounting local filesystems...", i get this: "[17179596.920000]  BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!"
[10:20] <netusr01> ok - libcairo is not updating - what do i do ?
[10:20] <NickGarvey> DVS01: yikes, report that
[10:20] <Flannel> EvilDennisR: they have to guess/figure out both login and password, instead of knowing login == "root"
[10:20] <Halitech> NickGarvey: I know but it is supposed to be released this week isn't it?
[10:20] <richardh_> hey everyone...I'm having trouble with my CPU and its temperature (possibly ACPI connected)
[10:20] <drumline_> Halitech: if it's a desktop and you care about new features, wait about a week and a half and install then..  :)   If you don't care at all about new features, load it now.  6.06 has long term support and you'll be just fine with it.
[10:21] <NickGarvey> Halitech: yeah but things are being pushed back a bit
[10:21] <DVS01> NickGarvey: googling it now.. seems to be an issue with my wireless network card =/
[10:21] <DVS01> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/64125
[10:21] <Flannel> NickGarvey: not necessarily.  RC was pushed back, it's effect on final is yet unseen
[10:21] <NickGarvey> DVS01: ick..
[10:21] <Dandre> Flannel: that was it, many thanks :-)
[10:21] <DVS01> is there a way to prevent the driver from loading?
[10:22] <DVS01> hrm i guess i'll just use a livecd
[10:22] <NickGarvey> DVS01: modprobe blacklist Iw ould think
[10:22] <Flannel> !blacklist | DVS01
[10:22] <ubotu> DVS01: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u
[10:22] <Halitech> drumline: ok, sounds like a good idea. what about just moving the drive to the new board? any issues with that?
[10:22] <DVS01> if this driver is static, then i cannot stop it from loading, correct?
[10:22] <richardh_> Uh, 83 is not a normal temp for a system, right?
[10:22] <DVS01> richardh_: celsius?
[10:23] <EvilDennisR> Flannel: I'm not doubting this.. Really the bottom line is to enforce strong passwords to begin with...
[10:23] <Halitech> NickGarvey: ok, no hurry to upgrade so can wait if needed
[10:23] <xjkx> !minimum recommended ubuntu
[10:23] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: and more importantly, firewall?
 Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[10:23] <LordLimecat> and limit listening services?
[10:23] <xjkx> lmao
[10:23] <NickGarvey> xjkx: mm its on www.ubuntu.com
[10:23] <xjkx> NickGarvey did not find
[10:23] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Was that a question.
[10:24] <LordLimecat> you can have the strongest password in the world, with no firewall and an unpassworded VNC, yer 1/2 hacked anyways
[10:24] <richardh_> dvs01: yep
[10:24] <Halitech> richardh_ what type of processor?
[10:24] <NickGarvey> xjkx: Ubuntu is available for PC, 64-Bit and Mac architectures. CDs require at least 256 MB of RAM. Install requires at least 2 GB of disk space.
[10:24] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: sort of not really o.0
[10:24] <NickGarvey> xjkx: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/desktopedition
[10:24] <wj32> LordLimecat: What if there isn't a graphical session running?
[10:24] <richardh_> halitech: centrino dual core
[10:24] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Well if you have an unpassworded vnc you deserved to get hacked in the first palce ;)
[10:24] <DVS01> ha
[10:24] <LaNCeloT_RW> anyone know how to show which port an application is using ?
[10:25] <LordLimecat> true... but what if the unencrypted password gets intercepted :)
[10:25] <DVS01> turning off killswitch fixes problem.. weird
[10:25] <LordLimecat> strong password on my box has never really been my concern, its the listeners
[10:25] <fiery_cleric> LaNCeloT_RW: netstat -p or -o i think
[10:25] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Don't use your vnc passwd as your system password =)
[10:25] <Flannel> xjkx: You can install on less RAM with the alternate CD
[10:25] <LaNCeloT_RW> fiery_cleric:  let me test
[10:25] <__hase> The more I use ubuntu the more I realize I don't know how to use ubuntu and that the guides aren't very helpful.  I can't get beryl to startup automatically with sessions, I can't get quicktime or one other kind of internet stream to work (wma? or something) though I did get flash to work and that made me proud, and I still can't enable and disable my touchpad at will despite adding the line to xorg.conf that was supposed to allow me to do that
[10:25] <xjkx> thanks :] ] ] ] ]
[10:25] <EvilDennisR> vnc sucks to begin with..
[10:26] <wj32> is the vnc password stored unencrypted?
[10:26] <Flannel> Halitech: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support
[10:26] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: not when helping people
[10:26] <NickGarvey> __hase: well 1/2 that stuff is done with a few clicks in feisty
[10:26] <Flannel> __hase:
[10:26] <richardh_> here's my problem, in short words: after upgrade to edgy, CPU keeps overheating, first there were total system freezes, and after a BIOS update, no freezes, but after a while totally sluggish system and red hot CPU
[10:26] <DVS01> i just installed ubuntu. i also just downloaded a kubuntu dvd, which i presume has more packages than the ubuntu cd, since it's several gigs in size. is there a way to use this dvd as a repository for installing software?
[10:26] <Flannel> Blargh.  Sorry Halitech, he's awfully hard to nick complete
[10:26] <LordLimecat> vncviewer -listen +x11vnc -connect FTW
[10:26] <wj32> ~/.vnc/passwd is 8 bytes, which is the length of my password, but it doesnt literally contain my password
[10:26] <LordLimecat> unless you know of something easier?
[10:27] <__hase> uh, so should I get feisty instead of edgy?  I hadn't used Linux in three years when I got my own computer again, edgy seemed the way to go
[10:27] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Well don't get me wrong.. VNC was good back in its time.. But there have been other programs for windows (which I hate to say) have really surpassed vnc
[10:27] <NickGarvey> __hase: its in beta, wait a week or so if you don't want beta stuff
[10:27] <wj32> DVS01: System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[10:27] <__hase> hmm
[10:27] <joshjosh> __hase, for me, edgy was a load. Wouldn't install correctly and didn't work with much anything. Dapper worked fine and Feisty works fine. Just try and see what works.
[10:27] <DVS01> thanks
[10:27] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: if they are built in, and allow easy enduser setup (ie, NO router port forwarding), id love to know about em
[10:27] <LordLimecat> or are easy to install :)
[10:27] <LordLimecat> crossplatform helps as well
[10:28] <NickGarvey> richardh_: new fan?
[10:28] <wj32> DVS01: then click on Third Party and click Add Cdrom
[10:28] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Me too (except the easy to install, I'd gladly spend 5 hours hacking on something to get it to work, if it means I get it to work)
[10:28] <cat> darn it im cold
[10:28] <LordLimecat> remote desktop is second place for me, except it only works on xp pro
[10:28] <LordLimecat> and a lot of ppl with issues have home
[10:28] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: sound like a gentoo guy to me ;)
[10:28] <wj32> vnc doesnt cache much stuff does it?
[10:28] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Debian
[10:28] <richardh_> nickgarvey: well, rather new laptop...half year...toshiba satellite a100
[10:28] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Debian sid ;)
[10:28] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: i mean easy for the end user (ie, apt-get install x11vnc
[10:29] <NickGarvey> ceil420: 4 days ahead of time there ;)
[10:29] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: True dat.. users asking a gazillion questions sucks..
[10:29] <richardh_> nickgarvey: but the thing is, it worked perfectly fine until I upgraded to edgy
[10:30] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: yep, except half the time thats me, im trying to become a linux power user and its a bumpy road (messing up xorg.conf, messing up alsa, messing up kernel, messing up compiles, etc)
[10:30] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Damn, this is a tasty ass straight-from-the-freezer Captain Morgan Silver Spiced Rum and Coke Zero in a straight-from-the-freezer pint glass
[10:30] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Thats HOW you become a power user!
[10:30] <ceil420> NickGarvey, lol, "Ceil" is registered with NickServ already :x
[10:30] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: I am jealous
[10:30] <LordLimecat> WHY do people taint rum with coke?
[10:30] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: lol
[10:30] <eck> there is no such thing as a linux power user :-)
[10:30] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Aren't you in 11th grade?
[10:30] <eck> well maybe someone who reads the man pages
[10:30] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: maybe..
[10:30] <__hase> Linux makes me feel weak and feeble
[10:30] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Not that I'm knocking you one bit
[10:31] <NickGarvey> __hase: um.. as great as linux is, if it is bad for your health, I think its not right for you
[10:31] <LordLimecat> __hase: thats a bit wierd, it makes me feel powerful
[10:31] <__hase> but then I go "fix" something for my uncle or the neighbor lady on their windows system and get arbitrary praise to boost my self esteem
[10:31] <LordLimecat> it doesnt try to hide behind a gui
[10:31] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Believe me when I tell you I was quite the alcoholic (figuratively) in highschool
[10:31] <SimonFlavelle> Hmm, I can access my Windows drive in Disks Manager, but not in the File Browser itself
[10:31] <fiery_cleric> the learning curve does start to flatten out after a while
[10:31] <SimonFlavelle> That's all I've figured out XD
[10:31] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: I'm having a hell of a time getting my hands on anything though
[10:31] <NickGarvey> LordLimecat: http://www.gentoo.org/images/poster.jpg hehe
[10:32] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Got an older brother?
[10:32] <__hase> Don't get my wrong, I love Linux for what it is, it's fun it makes me use my mind
[10:32] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: nope
[10:32] <LordLimecat> lol
[10:32] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: got 1/3 of a bottle of vodka in my closet and thats it
[10:32] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Snap... I had an older brother (+4 years) he gave me his ID when he was 21
[10:32] <LordLimecat> except i came from windows, so really, no complaints
[10:32] <richardh_> Is there a way to manually turn on the fan? (by the way, fan and thermal modules are loaded)
[10:32] <nu-> is there a way to have both gnome and kde installed, and choose which one to use?
[10:33] <eck> richardh_: i'm sure there is something you can toggle in /proc if you hunt around
[10:33] <EvilDennisR> nu-: You can have both installed
[10:33] <NickGarvey> nu-: indeed, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop if you are on ubuntu
[10:33] <LordLimecat> the real kicker was a project i needed to do for importing like 10000 users into active directory from a text file...using built in windows commands was neigh impossible, and slow as hell....installed gnuwin, and used grep...viola
[10:33] <EvilDennisR> nu-: Depends on which windowmanager you wanna use
[10:33] <eck> nu-: you can choose what DE you use in gdm
[10:33] <fiery_cleric> richardh_: maybe using acpi
[10:33] <NickGarvey> LordLimecat: hah, love that
[10:33] <camer0ff> i thought this might be an interested site for those that have not seen it: http://www.100mb.nl/
[10:33] <LordLimecat> the REAL kicker, grep=100x faster than native "for"
[10:33] <Halitech> richardh_ looks like it should be fine upto 40C or 104F
[10:33] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: What kinda vodka ?
[10:33] <nu-> ok guys, slow down =D
[10:34] <richardh_> halitech: so I'm basically 40C above "fine"? nice
[10:34] <nu-> Im using gnome. say i download KDE. when would i be able to switch? at log on?
[10:34] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: smirnoff original, not ice
[10:34] <NickGarvey> nu-: yeah, under options > sessions
[10:34] <Halitech> richardh_ was that temp in C of F?
[10:34] <richardh_> halitech: C
[10:34] <nu-> ok. thanks all
[10:35] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: not a huge vodka man myself.. I'm all about the Captain. I drink just about any kinda beer..... As long as its good beer, and not urine
[10:35] <__hase> Ha! If anyone cares, I just got my toucpad to turn off!
[10:35] <nu-> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop gave me error thogh
[10:35] <fiery_cleric> LordLimecat: yeah lists in bash are slow
[10:35] <Halitech> richardh_ then yeah, you are way over
[10:35] <EvilDennisR> Damn it, I have to censor myself more than I have to do in #pidgin!
[10:35] <eck> nu-: what error?
[10:35] <richardh_> the acpi thermal zone tells me that the cooling mode is "critical"
[10:35] <__hase> Which is to say, I can now type like a normal person without having to hold my fingers up like I'm shooting over another ball in pool.
[10:35] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: yeah, I'm getting sick of vodka real fast..
[10:35] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: captain morgan all the way
[10:36] <nu-> eck: /msg nickserv identify cognut
[10:36] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Put it in the freezer
[10:36] <nu-> ooooops
[10:36] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Frozen Captain > Anything
[10:36] <nu-> : Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:36] <nu-> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[10:36] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: that would go over well with my mom
[10:36] <EvilDennisR> Don't paste in here
[10:36] <EvilDennisR> !pastebin
[10:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:36] <NickGarvey> nu-: you have something else using apt, perhaps synaptic, maybe a stalled apt-get update
[10:36] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: I had that problem.. I bought myself a minifridge and put it in my closet
[10:36] <nu-> EvilDennisR: it was less than 3 lines =]
[10:36] <LordLimecat> whats that?  paste my .config in public IRC chat?  right away!
[10:37] <EvilDennisR> nu-: Hey man, I don't make the rules.. I just troll in here
[10:37] <nu-> NickGarvey: i don't though. I mean, i do. I installed updates and the reboot icon is in the trey
[10:37] <nu-> EvilDennisR: =]
[10:37] <NickGarvey> nu-: close that if you can.. although it shouldn't matter, check your terminals or something, paste bin "ps aux" if you can't find it
[10:38] <vimalg2> ls
[10:38] <EvilDennisR> vimalg2: wrong window.
[10:38] <nu-> NickGarvey: im going to restart and see if it works. be back soon
[10:38] <vimalg2> oops
[10:38] <vimalg2> lol
[10:38] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: wtf do you mix your vodka with ?
[10:39] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: anything I get my hands on.. peach stuff.. mt dew.. coke..
[10:39] <Stickymaddness> Women ^_^
[10:39] <EvilDennisR> mt dew aint all that bad
[10:39] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Frozen captain + coke zero (diet pepsi)
[10:40] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Dunno if you're in the the whole diet scene.. I dont drink soda with sugar
[10:40] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: I have heard good things about diet soda and mixing
[10:40] <fiery_cleric> !vodka
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vodka - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <EvilDennisR> heh...
[10:40] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: whats wrong with straight rum?
[10:41] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Yeah... You gotta like diet soda to begin with to do that though
[10:41] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Nothing at all!!
[10:41] <HYPOCRISY> Hello
[10:41] <LordLimecat> damn right
[10:41] <cyberfr0g`> hello
[10:41] <EvilDennisR> HYPOCRISY: HI!
[10:41] <NickGarvey> HYPOCRISY: hey can we help you out?
[10:41] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: You know we can't..
[10:42] <LordLimecat> oh dear lord its nearly 5am
[10:42] <LordLimecat> im gonna be late, and my boss wont even care
[10:42] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: I was just thinking the same thing..
[10:42] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: hahah!
[10:42] <LordLimecat> lol
[10:42] <owh> LordLimecat: Uh, nearly 5pm around here :)
[10:43] <LordLimecat> i sort of stroll in @ 9:30 and pray hes not there
[10:43] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: I was just thinking "Fsck it, I'm just gonna show up late, my boss won't even care"
[10:43] <LordLimecat> and if he is
[10:43] <LordLimecat> i jsut sort of pretend i was already there
[10:43] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Bwahahahahah!
[10:43] <LordLimecat> and play games, and pretend he doesnt know
[10:43] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Are you watching my life like the Truman Show ?
[10:43] <LordLimecat> and pretend i could lose my job (well, not that part)
[10:43] <LordLimecat> but he wont fire me cause im his pc tech :D
[10:43] <DVS01> man that kernel link i got before is pretty weird.. im used to doing make menuconfig, etc
[10:43] <LordLimecat> on call tech support :D
[10:44] <LordLimecat> and the financial officer plays WoW with me :D
[10:44] <LordLimecat> greatest job evar
[10:44] <owh> DVS01: You do know that there is a Ubuntu/Debian way to make a kernel don't you?
[10:44] <DVS01> i guess i have to do all this stuff at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild because it's a package-based method..
[10:44] <LordLimecat> yea, ive been there
[10:44] <LordLimecat> error!
[10:44] <DVS01> owh: yeah, reading up on it
[10:44] <LordLimecat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15943/
[10:44] <fiery_cleric> DVS01: u dont HAVE to but its better once u do it that way... easy to change kernels
[10:44] <LordLimecat> compiles, gets to the end part, and throws a fit.  no go, have to recompile
[10:45] <DVS01> ah
[10:45] <owh> DVS01: You do. That's the best way. It allows you to un-install it, upgrade it, etc.
[10:45] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Damn... Are you living my life too like NickGarvey ?
[10:45] <DVS01> owh: well that makes sense
[10:45] <EvilDennisR> except I don' tplay wow
[10:45] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: its probably due to one of the 80000 modules i removed
[10:45] <LordLimecat> a little knowledge is dangerous :D
[10:45] <foug> I turned the menu bar off on my terminal, how do i get it back
[10:45] <DVS01> owh: will this method allow me to get the latest stable kernel?
[10:45] <owh> DVS01: I do need to ask, what is it that requires you to compile a kernel?
[10:46] <DVS01> owh: i'm just used to doing it.. remove unneeded things, set the desired settings, etc
[10:46] <fiery_cleric> DVS01: its cool that way coz u get .deb at the end with your own kernel in it
[10:46] <owh> DVS01: Well, yes and no.
[10:46] <owh> DVS01: Lemmie see if I can explain without writing a novel.
[10:46] <LordLimecat> fiery_cleric: that was my exact thought process :D
[10:47] <DVS01> ok
[10:47] <SimonFlavelle> Can anyone here still help me? I can access my Windows drive in Disks Manager, but not in the File Browser itself. Is it possible there's an 'admin' account I don't know about?
[10:47] <EvilDennisR> damn
[10:47] <EvilDennisR> what was the bot command?
[10:47] <owh> DVS01: If you use the method shown in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild, you will get the latest Ubuntu kernel. That's not the same as the latest kernel.org kernel.
[10:47] <EvilDennisR> !ask
[10:47] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:47] <owh> DVS01: In addition to that...
[10:47] <foug> I turned the menu bar off on my terminal, how do i get it back
[10:48] <EvilDennisR> foug: right click that shit?
[10:48] <owh> DVS01: You should understand that the Ubuntu kernel is patched by Ubuntu, just like the Debian kernel, the SuSE and the RedHat kernels are.
[10:48] <foug> EvilDennisR: ya i got the shit, lol
[10:48] <Suurorca> vanilla kernel should work just fine on most cases, though =p
[10:49] <owh> DVS01: So, if you want to tweak stuff, but you also want to control what is a module and what is compiled, then follow those instructions. Then modify the .config file by running your flavour of make config.
[10:49] <EvilDennisR> damn, kernels have *real* flavour names now? Sheeeet...
[10:49] <Suurorca> but not nessesarily with the ubuntu default configs
[10:49] <owh> DVS01: That way you'll have the Ubuntu kernel, with your tweaked "optimisations".
[10:49] <DVS01> hehe "optimisations"
[10:49] <owh> DVS01: But I should ask, what is it that you need that you don't have that is going to change by compiling your own kernel.
[10:49] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: neopolitan?
[10:50] <owh> DVS01: Because you always did it that way isn't good enough :)
[10:50] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: No, I live in Mass, USA
[10:50] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: ;)
[10:50] <owh> DVS01: If you continued to do things the way you always did it, you would never have installed Ubuntu in the first place :)
[10:50] <LordLimecat> -_-
[10:51] <LordLimecat> :D
[10:51] <EvilDennisR> shit, I'm out of drink again..
[10:51] <SimonFlavelle> Can anyone here still help me? I can access my Windows drive in Disks Manager, but not in the File Browser itself. Is it possible there's an 'admin' account I don't know about?
[10:51] <kanpachi> hello, i'm using dapper, and i'm getting an error on some repos :(
[10:51] <disposable> how long will feisty be supported? (i've checked faq)
[10:51] <DVS01> owh: i guess the main reason is that i want to be more familiar with it, and as a side reason, just to tidy up and remove unneeded features.
[10:51] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: im sure theres a protocol for that
[10:51] <kanpachi> Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release
[10:51] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: I don't know what you were asking me..
[10:51] <kanpachi> can someone help please?
[10:51] <LordLimecat> *looks for coffee protocol* and i was referring to kernel flavors :D
[10:52] <EvilDennisR> kanpachi: someone can
[10:52] <kanpachi> yes please
[10:52] <EvilDennisR> kanpachi: We won't know until you ask your question..
[10:52] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Oh... Right on
[10:52] <kanpachi> well i keep getting these Err http://archive.canonical.com dapper-commercial Release
[10:52] <ce_maniez> heLLowwwwwwwww.......
[10:52] <kanpachi> and these Err http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com dapper Release
[10:52] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: *shrugs* I haven't compiled my own kernel in years.. Who cares! use a package kernel! Whatevah! I do what I want!
[10:52] <owh> DVS01: Well, the familiarity thing is valid enough, but the features you may want to remove might cause grief in other places, because the source is heavily patched. As Suurorca pointed out, you can use a similar procedure to compile a stock kernel. Do a google for debian kernel howto.
[10:52] <kanpachi> and most importantly these Err http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com dapper Release
[10:53] <kanpachi> those are the only 3 errors i get on my sources.list
[10:53] <kanpachi> and i can't seem to find what's causing it
[10:53] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Shit... I need *another* drink.. Should I get one, or just pass out.. I don't have to wake up for another 3 hours
[10:53] <kanpachi> since there are a lot of duplicate lines there
[10:53] <LordLimecat> kanpachi: yer getting a duplicate sources error?
[10:53] <owh> SimonFlavelle: What is the "Disks Manager" you're taking about?
[10:53] <kanpachi> no
[10:53] <kanpachi> i just get an error
[10:53] <DVS01> owh: will installing/updating nvidia drivers involve recompiling the kernel?
[10:53] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: 3 hours will sneak up on you pretty fast if you keep on pounding em..
[10:54] <AshyIsMe> what package is makeinfo a part of in dapper?
[10:54] <owh> DVS01: Not that I recall, but there are extensive howto's on the subject.
[10:54] <DVS01> yeah
[10:54] <kanpachi> maybe i should paste my sources.list in pastebin and someone could take a look at it please?
[10:54] <LordLimecat> NickGarvey: drinks, or kernel compiles?
[10:54] <owh> DVS01: Specific to Ubuntu I should add.
[10:54] <NickGarvey> LordLimecat: both I guess hah
[10:54] <DVS01> yup
[10:54] <SimonFlavelle> owh: The one in System>Administration>Disks, I can see the folders and files in my drive, in the "Access Path" prompt, but I can't actually go into the drive itself in the File Browser
[10:54] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Hm....
[10:54] <LordLimecat> and try 12 hours -_-
[10:54] <DVS01> owh: i noticed a large support element with ubuntu
[10:54] <LordLimecat> 3pm i start looking thru menuconfig -_-
[10:55] <DVS01> and holy shit.. my touchpad thing on the laptop works
[10:55] <DVS01> wow
[10:55] <LordLimecat> 12 hours later.......
[10:55] <DVS01> the volume control
[10:55] <owh> DVS01: That's why we're here :)
[10:55] <fiery_cleric> AshyIsMe: go to packages.ubuntu.com  and look there... there is also an apt command but i dont know it
[10:55] <owh> SimonFlavelle: Uhm, what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[10:55] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: You may be correct...
[10:55] <owh> fiery_cleric: An apt command for what?
[10:55] <tex__> hi i'm a windows user and i'd like to install Ubuntu 7.04 when it's released
[10:55] <DVS01> ok theres a problem now.. i have a mute button that is lit up on my laptop.. its blue when not muted, red when muted (in windows with driver).. but in ubuntu it doesnt turn red when muted.. :/
[10:55] <tex__> i'm planning the needed partitions for a dual boot install
[10:55] <LordLimecat> tex__: go for it :D
[10:55] <DVS01> im actually very glad to have this problem :)
[10:56] <SimonFlavelle> Err, 6.06 LTS
[10:56] <LordLimecat> ubuntu can resize windows partitions :D
[10:56] <DVS01> it means the thing at least works
[10:56] <owh> tex__: Visit the download page, download the .ISO, burn a CD, boot, install :)
[10:56] <LordLimecat> 'so no worries about that
[10:56] <tex__> i need a shared partition between win and ubuntu
[10:56] <owh> SimonFlavelle: Hmm, I'm running Edgy and I don't have that menu.
[10:56] <fiery_cleric> owh: AshyIsMe wants to know how to find what package a certain file is in
[10:56] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: I have already drank a pint of captain..
[10:56] <tex__> do i have to use fat32?
[10:56] <owh> fiery_cleric: dpkg -S filename
[10:56] <LordLimecat> tex__: there IS write support for ntfs, and AFAIK its pretty stable
[10:56] <EvilDennisR> tex__: Yo
[10:57] <owh> AshyIsMe: The command is dpkg -S filename
[10:57] <rob07> !fixres
[10:57] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:57] <EvilDennisR> tex__: Grab the new 7.04 iso when it comes out
[10:57] <AshyIsMe> fiery_cleric, thanks
[10:57] <LordLimecat> AFAIK the warnings are just because there COULD be dataloss, but i dont think its common?  (anyone want to comment?)
[10:57] <mjr> tex__, in addition to what lordlimecat said, there's also ext2 support for Windows, and that's probably more stable
[10:57] <owh> !nvideo
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvideo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <owh> !nvidia
[10:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:57] <kanpachi> hello i have a problem with my sources.list on dapper, can someone help please?
[10:57] <owh> Doh
[10:57] <tex__> a friend told me that ubuntu 7.04 will have preinstalled ntfs drivers
[10:57] <LordLimecat> mjr: i had BAD luck with that driver
[10:57] <EvilDennisR> tex__: The install will automagically regognize your windows partition, and put that partition in the grub boot screen
[10:57] <LordLimecat> mjr: slowness, etc
[10:57] <owh> DVS01: That's for you!
[10:57] <nu-> what is the kde desktop package called again?
[10:57] <NickGarvey> nu-: kubuntu-desktop
[10:57] <LordLimecat> nu-: kde-core
[10:57] <AshyIsMe> hmm, makeinfo not found
[10:58] <nu-> both?
[10:58] <DVS01> thanks
[10:58] <NickGarvey> nu-: mines better
[10:58] <NickGarvey> nu-: (obviously)
[10:58] <LordLimecat> lol, ow
[10:58] <nu-> alrighty
[10:58] <NickGarvey> LordLimecat: :)
[10:58] <nu-> thanks
[10:58] <LordLimecat> my pride :9
[10:58] <SimonFlavelle> EvilDennisR: Would it need to be on a different partition on the same drive for the windows recognising to work?
[10:58] <NickGarvey> SimonFlavelle: it shouldn't ubuntu is smart enough to probe around (should be at least :))
[10:59] <EvilDennisR> SimonFlavelle: the install program should ask you, and let you resize that windows partition so you can install ubuntu on the *other* partition that you make
[10:59] <owh> tex__: To share some space you can use FAT32, writing support for NTFS is poor. Also you can install vmwareplayer and run windows from within Ubuntu and share data across the virtual network :)
[10:59] <SimonFlavelle> Hmm, Maybe I can try and move Ubuntu onto my big drive, see if it recognises windows then :)
[10:59] <nu-> also, whats the command for registering my name in irc?
[10:59] <owh> tex__: And to boot you won't need to dual boot either ;-)
[10:59] <LordLimecat> a little note on that, it CANNOT resize if the disk is marked as "dirty"--ie, you did an unclean shutdown...it will instead offer to use the whole disk for ubuntu, formatting it ALL
[10:59] <EvilDennisR> SimonFlavelle: So for example you have 100G windowz partition, you can resize that to 50G, and then install ubuntu on the other 50G
[10:59] <enyc> nu-:  /msg nickserv register
[10:59] <NickGarvey> nu-: /msg nickserv help register
[11:00] <nu-> Thanks guys
[11:00] <enyc> nu-: it sohuld point you in the right direction...
[11:00] <tex__> can i run photoshop cs3 beta from ubuntu?
[11:00] <DVS01> owh: check this out... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7QraljRfM ...you see those icons at the top of the person's screen? they look sorta like macosx's... how do i get an interface like that?
[11:00] <LordLimecat> make SURE you shutdown properly before trying to install ubuntu
[11:00] <ce_maniez> hiiiiiiiiiiiii
[11:00] <DVS01> or is that a feature of beryl itself
[11:00] <SimonFlavelle> Alright then, I'll see if I can do that
[11:00] <enyc> tex__: no idea... you might be able to with osme kind of wine..  otherwise you need a Virtual machine  with vmware or qemu
[11:00] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat is correct...
[11:00] <LordLimecat> ask how lordlimecat knows
[11:00] <EvilDennisR> I had an issue with resizing my windowz XP partition because I didn't shut down correctly
[11:00] <owh> SimonFlavelle: The partition you're trying to see, what format is it?
[11:00] <LordLimecat> :D
[11:01] <enyc> EvilDennisR: makes sense.. .will not resize dirty filesystem
[11:01] <LordLimecat> also, dont do a hard shutdown during ubuntu install
[11:01] <LordLimecat> its a bad ide
[11:01] <LordLimecat> idea
[11:01] <EvilDennisR> Correct.
[11:01] <LordLimecat> :(
[11:01] <tex__> someone among you is an expert about font issues?
[11:01] <LordLimecat> itll bork yer bootloader
[11:01] <tex__> i have many commercial fonts for windows in OpenType format
[11:01] <owh> DVS01: That looks like a normal task bar that's set to not use the whole screen and made transparent. I suspect that there is some or other funky theme installed as well.
[11:02] <nu> i forgot the password i registered with
[11:02] <DVS01> ah
[11:02] <tex__> I know that OpenType (truetype flavor) works in ubuntu
[11:02] <owh> DVS01: I have to say that the UI shown in that video does my head in :)
[11:02] <DVS01> hehe
[11:02] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Theres way too many people in here man.. I look away for a minute and I have no idea wtf just went on
[11:02] <tex__> but OpenType (type 1 flavor) does not work
[11:02] <DVS01> have you used beryl before, owh?
[11:02] <tex__> Right?
[11:03] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: haha yup
[11:03] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: this isn't even close to peak either
[11:03] <owh> enyc: Hmm, a dirty file system in Windows isn't the same as a dirty file system under Linux :)
[11:03] <nu> Ok i installed. So now i'll have the option to choose KDE at boot? that's neat
[11:03] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: be in here the 19th :)
[11:03] <LordLimecat> note to all, never set the dirty bit on a flash drive from windows using fsutil
[11:03] <LordLimecat> you will regret it forever
[11:04] <dc> does anyone know how to stream a windows users' shared itunes music on ubuntu edgy?
[11:04] <fiery_cleric> tex__: ummm... try copying them into your ~/.fonts folder ... no work?
[11:04] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: That when feisty comes out ?
[11:04] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: yup
[11:04] <tex__> i'm on win at the moment
[11:04] <LordLimecat> dc: is your goal to listen to the music from edgy, or actually have the files one dgy
[11:04] <tex__> i will install 7.04 as a first try
[11:04] <dc> LordLimecat: listen to the music, but the latter would be just as good if not better
[11:05] <cat> does gpm exist in ubuntu?
[11:05] <LordLimecat> dc: for streaming songs on windows, VLC (advanced) or vibestreamer (easy)
[11:05] <dc> LordLimecat: ok let me try that thank you
[11:05] <LordLimecat> for moving the files, if its ont he same system, you should be able to mount the windows drive and read the files..../
[11:05] <DVS01> actually.. dc.. about your music listening...
[11:05] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: I'm sure I'll still be idle in here on that day
[11:05] <dc> LordLimecat: no its not the same comp
[11:05] <LordLimecat> if its networked, set up a windows share, and use ubuntu's connect to server to read the share and copy the files
[11:05] <dc> DVS01: yo
[11:05] <DVS01> i found that streaming music is a very annoying way to listen to music remotely
[11:06] <LordLimecat> DVS01: check out vibestreamer
[11:06] <DVS01> my solution to it is sftpdrive.. it creates a drive letter in windows thats actually an sftp/ssh link
[11:06] <LordLimecat> its pretty damn cool, uses a flash player
[11:06] <dc> DVS01: im on a college campus and when im wireless i dont have any music
[11:06] <LordLimecat> its like gnump3d, but with a built in player
[11:06] <DVS01> so you can access your remote files via scp/sftp
[11:06] <LordLimecat> and of course, VLC multicast FTW!
[11:06] <DVS01> true
[11:06] <cat> does gpm exist in ubuntu?
[11:07] <DVS01> vibestreamer sounds like a cool idea
[11:07] <LordLimecat> it is
[11:07] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: WTF do you live? Must be on the east coast if you're still awake lik eme
[11:07] <dc> LordLimecat: is vibestreamer windows only?
[11:07] <DVS01> it would end up being a matter of taste
[11:07] <fiery_cleric> cat: the mouse thing... yeah
[11:07] <LordLimecat> i imagine it would work in wine
[11:07] <dc> LordLimecat: oh ok
[11:07] <LordLimecat> its only issue....
[11:07] <LordLimecat> it REQUIRES usernames/passwords
[11:07] <LordLimecat> no anonymous connects
[11:07] <cat> fiery_cleric: what's the package called?
[11:07] <cat> because im not seeying gpm with apt.
[11:07] <DVS01> dc.. are you trying to play music on a linux or windows box?
[11:07] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: yeah, NY
[11:07] <fiery_cleric> !gpm
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gpm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <EvilDennisR> 5:08... Jesus, I should be asleep...
[11:08] <NickGarvey> !info gpm | fiery_cleric
[11:08] <cat> dido
[11:08] <DVS01> NY here too
[11:08] <ubotu> fiery_cleric: gpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-22ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 500 kB
[11:08] <dc> DVS01: linux
[11:08] <EvilDennisR> NickGarvey: Well if you ever want to drive 3/4 hours to Mass, I can buy you booze no problem!
[11:08] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: bright side, the later you stay up, the more tired you get, and the faster you sleep
[11:08] <cat> i do not see the gpm package though
[11:08] <LordLimecat> really, youre saving time
[11:08] <NickGarvey> EvilDennisR: hah, I'll keep that in mind
[11:08] <cat> with apt-cache search gpm
[11:08] <DVS01> dc: and the remote machine that has the music running what?
[11:08] <ce_maniez> #semarang
[11:08] <NickGarvey> cat: enable universe
[11:08] <cat> i only see some libraries. from the program though
[11:09] <EvilDennisR> thats three to four hours, not three fourths hours
[11:09] <cat> NickGarvey: how?
[11:09] <NickGarvey> !repos | cat
[11:09] <ubotu> cat: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections.  I still have to wake up in 3 hours to be to work at 9 though..
[11:09] <EvilDennisR> well
[11:10] <EvilDennisR> thats not true
[11:10] <dc> LordLimecat: i got an error
[11:10] <LordLimecat> but how long is spent GOING to sleep?
[11:10] <LordLimecat> :D
[11:10] <dc> LordLimecat: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.
[11:10] <fiery_cleric> cat: gpm is for text based mouse functionality
[11:10] <NickGarvey> cat: what do you want gpm for hah
[11:10] <LordLimecat> o.0 i did that? :(
[11:10] <EvilDennisR> I'm gonna wake UP at 8, prolly lay in bed until about 8:15/30, wake up, take a shower, and get to work around 9:30/9:45
[11:10] <cat> right
[11:10] <dc> DVS01: windows/itunes
[11:10] <cat> is because i want to pasted an error fiery_cleric
[11:10] <fiery_cleric> cat: for virtual consoles
[11:10] <dc> LordLimecat: prob. not
[11:10] <LordLimecat> oh wait
[11:10] <LordLimecat> nono
[11:10] <cat> because i do not have any terminals
[11:11] <LordLimecat> if you just want to stream....ie, the file doesnt really move to ubuntu...
[11:11] <LordLimecat> then VLC is pretty much the most direct way
[11:11] <cat> can anyone of you give me an universe source so i can added it to my source list please
[11:11] <dc> LordLimecat: o ok
[11:11] <LordLimecat> have VLC running on both
[11:11] <LordLimecat> and set up a UDP or multicast stream (udp is easier)....
[11:11] <dc> LordLimecat: the other computer(s) only have itunes
[11:11] <LordLimecat> install VLC'
[11:11] <DVS01> dc: check out LordLimecat's suggestion, http://www.vibestreamer.com/
[11:11] <dc> LordLimecat: i want to stream the music that is on other peoples itunes
[11:11] <dc> DVS01: i already did thanks
[11:12] <dc> DVS01: it doesnt run with wine
[11:12] <LordLimecat> dc: vlc can handle pretty much any multimedia task
[11:12] <LordLimecat> dc: vlc is native for ubuntu
[11:12] <DVS01> dc: the front page has an announcement saying it works with wine
[11:12] <DVS01> dc: "Vibe Streamer runs on Linux/Ubuntu using Wine"
[11:12] <LordLimecat> DVS01: it DOES????
[11:12] <LordLimecat> o.0
[11:12] <DVS01> hehe yea
[11:12] <DVS01> hahaha
[11:12] <dc> LordLimecat: the issue isnt with me, i dont have access to the computers with itunes on them
[11:12] <EvilDennisR> alright, I gotta go to sleep...
[11:12] <dc> DVS01: it just doesnt work it throws this error: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.
[11:13] <CraZy675> what are the short cut keys to change desktops?
[11:13] <cat> if is not too much to asked, because i'm stock with some stuff
[11:13] <cat> can anyone of you give me an universe source so i can added it to my source list please
[11:13] <EvilDennisR> well that is, lay in bed for another 30 minutes, and get like 2 hours of sleep..
[11:13] <LordLimecat> dc: trust me, VLC will be able to access them
[11:13] <LordLimecat> possibly
[11:13] <DVS01> doh
[11:13] <cat> because my source list sucks,
[11:13] <LordLimecat> if you can access em from windows...you can access em with VLC
[11:13] <DVS01> dunno about that
[11:13] <EvilDennisR> I did drink a pint of captains after all...
[11:13] <cat> im having an error thought that apt-get -f install is giving me
[11:13] <sebari> hello all
[11:13] <dc> LordLimecat: how would it interface?
[11:13] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: it was captain and coke tho...
[11:13] <LordLimecat> VLC is pretty seamless.....
[11:14] <TMH_> hi. I'm using Ubuntu Fiesty and I've compiled my own kernel, but I have to make a ubuntu-style initrd for it. I'm hoping there's some sort of really convenient script I can run to just generate one that I can stick in /boot
[11:14] <LordLimecat> takes a LITTLE know how
[11:14] <LordLimecat> what comp are you trying to access
[11:14] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Captain Morgan *Silver* and Coke Zero
[11:14] <LordLimecat> itunes
[11:14] <LordLimecat> coke ZERO?
[11:14] <LordLimecat> bah
[11:14] <dc> LordLimecat: itunes
[11:14] <EvilDennisR> Yeah man!
[11:14] <LordLimecat> that totally...denatures...it
[11:14] <zelexus> hehe
[11:14] <LordLimecat> its like anti-alcohol
[11:14] <EvilDennisR> I don't drink soda with sugar in it
[11:14] <dc> LordLimecat: i dont know the computer name dude
[11:14] <EvilDennisR> its gross..
[11:14] <LordLimecat> you ruined it
[11:14] <LordLimecat> fail
[11:14] <cat> it says this trying to overwrite /usr/X11R6/bin which is also in package rdesktop Errors were encounted while processing
[11:14] <EvilDennisR> anti alcogol?
[11:14] <cat> bla bla any ideas?
[11:14] <LordLimecat> dc: how would you access it from windows
[11:14] <EvilDennisR> wtf?
[11:15] <LordLimecat> EvilDennisR: yea, like koolaid
[11:15] <EvilDennisR> a/alcogol/alcohol/
[11:15] <dc> LordLimecat: i wouldnt.  if you read its not my computer im streaming it from
[11:15] <EvilDennisR> koolaid has sugar in it though
[11:15] <LordLimecat> dc: i need to know what computer its coming from, you need a host or ip
[11:15] <cat> can someone help me?
[11:15] <LordLimecat> o.0
[11:15] <dc> LordLimecat: well then thats not the aproach i would like to take
[11:15] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Captain SILVER with coke zero > Captain Regular Coke
[11:16] <LordLimecat> dc: im a bit confused
[11:16] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: Had Captain Silver before ?
[11:16] <DVS01> crap
[11:16] <fiery_cleric> !repos
[11:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:16] <LordLimecat> evildennisr: no o.0
[11:16] <DVS01> critical error during ped_disk_duplicate with qtparted while installing kubuntu
[11:16] <dc> LordLimecat: have you seen itunes before? there is a seperate thing to the left that says streaming music:  then lists all of these playlists people want to stream,
[11:16] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: You realize you're keeping me from sleeping by telling you about the benefits of captain siler
[11:16] <cat> !easysource universe
[11:16] <LordLimecat> evildennisr: you realize my needing to respond is keeping me up?
[11:16] <cat> i need at least one source and that's it
[11:17] <LordLimecat> blaming you makes it easier to justify my irresponsibility...
[11:17] <dc> cat: what do you need?
[11:17] <LordLimecat> dc: right....so someone remotely...on a computer you cant accss is streaming music, correct?
[11:17] <dc> LordLimecat: yes
[11:17] <wowow> quick heads up to noobs trying feisty via beta cd
[11:17] <wowow> you might run into a fontconfig problem
[11:18] <billy> is there a terminal command that will allow a file to be opened with the correct program?
[11:18] <wowow> and when you log in you panel and lots of other apps will be slow and eat cpu cycles
[11:18] <wowow> here is the fix
[11:18] <EvilDennisR> LordLimecat: http://www.internetwines.com/mb140224.html (Best I could find for silver)
[11:18] <LordLimecat> now, to connect to that stream, you need to know its address
[11:18] <wowow> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2401087&postcount=4
[11:18] <wowow> hope it helps someone
[11:18] <fiery_cleric> billy: gnome-open ?
[11:18] <LordLimecat> why did i think of Wine is not an emulator when i saw that link?
[11:18] <dc> LordLimecat: not in itunes in windows...
[11:19] <billy> thanks fiery_cleric
[11:19] <dc> LordLimecat: yo wine throws me this error do you know? Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.
[11:19] <LordLimecat> dc: ill have to check it out, but somehow that address is getting to you
[11:19] <dc> LordLimecat: because itunes searches for them and grabs all the addresses of the users that are sharing
[11:19] <cat> darn it
[11:19] <LordLimecat> dc: no, i dont :( until ive actually experienced a problem, i dont lknow how to fix it :(
[11:19] <LordLimecat> try #winehq
[11:19] <dc> k
[11:19] <dac> cat,hi
[11:19] <LordLimecat> but i suspect a google would find the solution
[11:19] <cat> hi dac
[11:19] <cat> it says this trying to overwrite /usr/X11R6/bin which is also in package rdesktop Errors were encounted while processing
[11:20] <LordLimecat> AAAH! its 5:20!
[11:20] <cat> any one knows why is this happening?
[11:20] <cat> i cannot installed the X11-package
[11:20] <LordLimecat> evildennisr: GO TO BED!
[11:20] <LordLimecat> im goin to :D
[11:20] <dac> i didn't know i had voice
[11:20] <modology> hi everyone
[11:20] <cat> is this currently a bug?
[11:20] <cat> perhaps?
[11:20] <DVS01> im gonna have a pretty interesting project.. installing linux for a windows user
[11:20] <DVS01> hes got a p3 1.2ghz, like half a gig of ram, and a 300gb hdd
[11:21] <dac> hi modology
[11:21] <modology> Does anyone know how to use LS command to SORT content in one TXT file in the Following order: 1. The Content will sorted depend on the Length of Strings. I want to sort it from Short to Long.
[11:21] <cat> i hate unmet depencencies
[11:22] <NickGarvey> DVS01: not bad
[11:22] <NickGarvey> cat: don't we all, <3 apt
[11:22] <cat> NickGarvey: i cannot fixed the issued?
[11:22] <cat> can you please help me NickGarvey
[11:22] <NickGarvey> cat: maybe.. I have an essay that needs to be done in an hour and a half though
[11:22] <cat> it says this trying to overwrite /usr/X11R6/bin which is also in package rdesktop Errors were encounted while processing
[11:23] <DVS01> NickGarvey: i figure he's better off with linux. all he really cares about is movies, tv shows, emulation, and flash editing. theres emulators for linux, so he'll be fine
[11:23] <cat> that's the error is giving me NickGarvey
[11:23] <DVS01> only thing im not sure about is the flash editing
[11:23] <LordLimecat> test
[11:23] <LordLimecat> -_-
[11:23] <fiery_cleric> modology: probably perl is your best answer
[11:23] <DVS01> he can probably wine it
[11:23] <NickGarvey> DVS01: macromedia..
[11:23] <NickGarvey> cat: I don't really.. understand what is happening
[11:23] <sebari> hello there how can i find out what kind of card i am using ?
[11:23] <LordLimecat[slee> >_<
[11:23] <NickGarvey> sebari: "card"?
[11:24] <Figs> modology -- I don't understand your question? why LS?
[11:24] <modology> Sorry but I have no Programming background, so PERL is not a good solution for me
[11:24] <waster> Please can anyone tell me how to use ALT + numeric keypad to enter hex unicode directly?
[11:24] <sebari> yeah i am tying to instal the beryl
[11:24] <NickGarvey> !beryl | sebari
[11:24] <ubotu> sebari: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:24] <modology> I just want to List the Content in one file in order that Short String come first then long string come after. Then output it into new txt file
[11:24] <MK_Mike> Hey, i have a problem somtimes e.g. most time i reboot my pc there is no sound what so ever what ever i do e.g. reinstalling sound system, etc. i can't get it to work but ever now and again the sound works! any ideas how to fix this problem
[11:25] <DVS01> dude thats nuts
[11:25] <DVS01> these ubuntu irc channels rock
[11:25] <ceil420> is it possible to kill something by process name?
[11:25] <NickGarvey> ceil420: "killall processname"
[11:25] <ceil420> thx o/
[11:25] <kernando> hello if i have windows ics enabled and im tryin to connect in ubuntu with wireless how can i set the network authentication to shared??
[11:25] <DVS01> with a possible -9 after the killall
[11:25] <cat> NickGarvey: Unpacking x11-common (from .../x11-common_1%3a7.2-0ubuntu11_i386.deb dpkg error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.2-0ubuntu11_i386.deb
[11:25] <fiery_cleric> modology: um do want to list a file or a directory
[11:25] <modology> It;s a TXT file
[11:25] <NickGarvey> cat: apt-get clean, then try again maybe
[11:25] <modology> that I have
[11:26] <OpenTokix> apt-get don't like full partitions =)
[11:26] <cat> same error NickGarvey
[11:26] <|sMiLe[-v-] deaTH> haLoo
[11:26] <ceil420> hmm... the font in that Alt+F2 window didn't change along with the rest of my theme ><
[11:26] <waster> any ideas on entering unicode characters without using GUI?
[11:26] <NickGarvey> cat: I'm not sure
[11:27] <ceil420> firefox is using a third font o_O
[11:27] <NickGarvey> cat: do you have any more info you can te/ll me to help debug?
[11:27] <ceil420> weird
[11:27] <DVS01> is there a way to make vnc server attach to an existing X session?
[11:27] <cat> NickGarvey: hmmm
[11:27] <DVS01> or start up with the default one that starts upon boot
[11:27] <ceil420> and annoying, cos while the Alt+F2 font is ugly, the firefox font is almost unreadable ;x
[11:28] <cat> it says here trying to overwrite /usr/X11R6/bin which is also in package rdesktop
[11:28] <derek[] > How to make the change of xset command permanent in Ubuntu? (there doesn't seem to be any ~/.xinitrc file)
[11:28] <cat> NickGarvey: that's the last error that apt-get -f install throw me.
[11:28] <modology> fiery_cleric: I want to list content in one file
[11:28] <Figs> modology -- Perl is almost certainly your best bet, let me see if I can find a way to do it quickly
[11:28] <variant> derek[] : you can make the .xinitrc file
[11:28] <waster> openoffice help talks about dead keys but these don't exist on my keyboard. unicode with keystrokes, anyone?
[11:29] <Figs> modology - do you have perl installed?
[11:29] <Figs> (silly question, probably)
[11:29] <fiery_cleric> modology: so u want to take a file and display it from shortest line to longest line?
[11:29] <regress> It seems the "mail" command is not installe by default on ubuntu - can I apt-get it?
[11:29] <regress> sudo apt-get install mail fails, of course :)
[11:29] <modology> fiery_cleric: yes
[11:30] <modology> fiery_cleric: shortest string length then longest string length
[11:30] <Figs> I know how to do it in C++, but I doubt you really want a whole app for something like that
[11:30] <MK_Mike> Hey, i have a problem somtimes e.g. most time i reboot my pc there is no sound what so ever what ever i do e.g. reinstalling sound system, etc. i can't get it to work but ever now and again the sound works! any ideas how to fix this problem
[11:30] <modology> Figs: I could barely use GCC so it would be a problem
[11:31] <Figs> even if I give you the code?
[11:31] <modology> Figs: if you can show me how to compile
[11:32] <regress> ah, seems I should apt-get mailx
[11:32] <Figs> I'm not so familiar with calling gcc directly, but I'll see what I can do
[11:32] <regress> intuitive :/
[11:32] <Figs> gimme about 10 minutes and I'll see what I can do
[11:32] <modology> Figs: let me know wat compiler that I need to install
[11:32] <Figs> someone else may be faster though :P
[11:32] <derek[] > variant, there is a /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
[11:32] <CNTRLX> Do any of you know about GDI+ lib with delphi?
[11:32] <variant> derek[] : thast the system wide default
[11:32] <Figs> I don't usually C++ on *nix
[11:32] <variant> derek[] : you can edit that for all users
[11:33] <Figs> so...  IFS=$'\n' ; for name in `cat /etc/hosts` ; do echo `echo $name |wc -c` $name; done | sort -g | sed 's/^[^ ] * //' ;unset $IFS
[11:33] <Figs> but I know it's great for what you want to do
[11:33] <fiery_cleric> modology: s/do/dont/
[11:33] <CNTRLX> well i was just hoping about resources
[11:34] <DVS01> is there a way to get the start menu to be triggered by the start button in KDE?
[11:34] <modology> fiery_cleric: I will give it atry now
[11:34] <fiery_cleric> modology: where /etc/hosts is the name of your file
[11:35] <modology> fiery_cleriic: if my file name is SORT.txt, then what should it be?
[11:36] <NickGarvey> fiery_cleric: +1
[11:36] <fiery_cleric> modology: IFS=$'\n' ; for name in `SORT.txt` ; do echo `echo $name |wc -c` $name; done | sort -g | sed 's/^[^ ] * //' ;unset $IFS
[11:37] <ceil420> http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9592/weirdfontdm8.png <=- can someone help get my fonts sorted in Xubuntu Edgy? :(
[11:37] <ceil420> xchat userlist = what it should be
[11:37] <fiery_cleric> modology: IFS=$'\n' ; for name in `cat SORT.txt` ; do echo `echo $name |wc -c` $name; done | sort -g | sed 's/^[^ ] * //' ;unset $IFS
[11:37] <ceil420> as you can see, that firefox font is annoying :x and the Alt+F2 thing isn't much better
[11:37] <ceil420> i just tried setting the font again, even with the alt+f2 thing open; no change
[11:38] <Betzefer> any 1 needs help
[11:38] <Betzefer> ?
[11:38] <ceil420> i do :x
[11:38] <Aaronfromchina> Yes!
 http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9592/weirdfontdm8.png <=- can someone help get my fonts sorted in Xubuntu Edgy? :(
[11:38] <DVS01> am i going to run into problems following ubuntu's howtos if using kubuntu? for example, i am aiming to install beryl, and am using ubuntu's howtos
[11:38] <kanzie> Has there been any new releases for the kernel on Feasty Fawn since thursday? The kernel that was installed then was corrupted and now trying to update is says that kernel-image was "held back"
[11:38] <DVS01> ceil420 whoa that's pretty messed up lol
[11:39] <ceil420> DVS01, i know ><
[11:39] <kanzie> ah, now I got them
[11:39] <DVS01> how the hell did that happen
[11:39] <ceil420> i have no idea -_-
[11:39] <dooglus> regress: install 'mailx'
[11:39] <modology> fiery_cleric: how can I output the the Result into a new txt file called NEW.txt?
[11:39] <ceil420> i don't even remember even TRYING that font that firefox is using
[11:39] <ceil420> -even
[11:39] <regress> dooglus: doesn't seem to be in the repos
[11:40] <regress> "Package mailx is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[11:40] <nu-> Ok guys. i installed KDE. but now all KDE programs show up on my gnome menu bar. is that normal?
[11:40] <dooglus> !info mailx
[11:40] <ubotu> mailx: A simple mail user agent. In component main, is optional. Version 1:8.1.2-0.20050715cvs-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 149 kB, installed size 288 kB
[11:40] <regress> at least I knew I wasn't crazy for trying to install mailx :)
[11:40] <dooglus> regress: it is
[11:40] <fiery_cleric> modology: add  "> NEW.txt" before the last ";"
[11:40] <regress> hmm, guess my source list is messed up then
[11:40] <ceil420> is that a no? :x
[11:40] <lush> yes its normal
[11:40] <regress> owell, I don't need it so badly, just would have been nice
[11:41] <kanzie> is there any special channel for Feasty Fawn-users?
[11:41] <Aaronfromchina> can someone help me to display flash on Firefox?
[11:41] <ceil420> there should be a green puzzle piece where the flash would go
[11:41] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: using 6.10 huh?
[11:41] <dooglus> regress: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=mailx&searchon=names&version=all&release=all says it's available for warty, hoary, breezy, dapper, edgy and feisty
[11:41] <ceil420> click it to get the plugin
[11:41] <nu-> ceil420: that doesnt work in 6.10
[11:41] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, 7.04 and I've got flashplugin-nonfree installed.
[11:42] <modology> fiery_cleric: thanks alot
[11:42] <dooglus> regress: I expect it'll be available for the manky monkey, or whatever the next version is called
[11:42] <ceil420> if nothing else, there will be Manual Install, and Adobe's site will walk you through it
[11:42] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: that's weird. all i had to do was install from the pop up it game me
[11:42] <ceil420> i know i got flash workin' easy enough, and i'm noobish
[11:42] <regress> haha, thanks ;)
[11:42] <fiery_cleric> modology: just out of interest .... why?
[11:42] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, :(
[11:42] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: download from adobe. i  had to do that in 6.10
[11:42] <ceil420> or a search on mozilla's extensions for "flash"
[11:43] <dooglus> is he 'gusty' or 'gutsy'?  the weekly news says both
[11:43] <modology> fiery_cleric: for designing purpose. I plan to sort all command line in Linux in length string order so later on I can put it into my T-Shirt design
[11:43] <rambo3_> !info flashplugin.nonfree feisty
[11:43] <ubotu> Package flashplugin.nonfree does not exist in feisty
[11:43] <rambo3_> !info flashplugin.nonfree feisty
[11:43] <fiery_cleric> modology: glad i could help :)
[11:43] <rambo3_> damn it
[11:43] <modology> fiery_cleric: I would let you see the Tee Design after finish
[11:43] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, can you see this flash? http://my.opera.com/aaroncn/blog/show.dml/894208
[11:44] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, if there is a big blank in this page. Then the flash cannot be displayed.
[11:44] <Figs> sorry I got disconnected there
[11:45] <rambo3_> Aaronfromchina, there is nothing there
[11:45] <Figs> modology, did you solve it?
[11:45] <modology> Figs: yeah I solved it
[11:45] <rambo3_> Aaronfromchina, that is flex application you need flash 9.x +
[11:46] <Figs> ah
[11:46] <Figs> :P
[11:46] <rejeep> Hi! How can I see which available kernels I can boot with in yaboot?
[11:46] <Figs> well, the program works now :P
[11:46] <Aaronfromchina> rambo3_, OK. I see. that's NOT a flash-firefox problem, even though i can see a flash on that page on WinXP.
[11:46] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: no i cant
[11:46] <dooglus> fiery_cleric: what's the '$' for in your IFS=$'\n'?
[11:46] <modology> Figs: it's linux command line
[11:46] <Figs> ;)
[11:46] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: dont think theres suppsed to be a flash there
[11:46] <Figs> yeah, but I like overly complex solutions
[11:47] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, .... See.
[11:47] <Figs> I always miss the simple stuff
[11:47] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: if there was a flash there, it would tell me when i right click. it would give me flash options. but it doesnt
[11:47] <Figs> although I admit what I saw earlier was beyond me (I don't know sed)
[11:47] <Figs> anyway, adios
[11:47] <fiery_cleric> dooglus: um its bashes sometimes annoying inter field separator ... so if u want a list of lines instead of a list of words
[11:47] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: go to www.youtube.com can you see the vids?
[11:47] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, that is a SWF, what should I do to play it?
[11:48] <dooglus> fiery_cleric: why not just IFS='\n'?
[11:48] <dooglus> fiery_cleric: (that doesn't work, but why?)
[11:48] <rambo3_> !info flashplugin-nonfree feisty
[11:48] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)
[11:48] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: can you view the videos on youtube.com?
[11:48] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, yes, i can.
[11:48] <rambo3_> you need chinese japanese or what ever fonts for that
[11:49] <fiery_cleric> dooglus: ah yeah thats because its a way  of quoting that preserves the newline operator
[11:49] <elifed> nu-, I can as well
[11:49] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: then you have flash installed. therefore you probably got the HTML wrong trying to embed the swf
[11:49] <rambo3_>   \r\n
[11:50] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, but i can see it on WinXP. I'm sure.
[11:50] <elifed> although I am debating removing that package :D
[11:50] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, there is no extra plugin to install for playing flash. Is that right?
[11:50] <DVS01> what file to i edit to add repositories?
[11:50] <DVS01> to=do
[11:51] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, if it's right. I think I may try to adjust parameters of the HTML stuff. You may be right. Thank you very much.
[11:51] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: I don't know then. perhaps the encoding?
[11:52] <elifed> DVS01, /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:52] <Aaronfromchina> rambo3_, Thank you. :)
[11:52] <derek[] > where can I put the xset commands so that they are loaded everytime on booting?
[11:52] <nu-> no
[11:52] <guinessroxors> how can i 'reset' mysql so it just like when I installed it?
[11:52] <nu-> http://files.myopera.com/aaroncn/files/NamePK.swf
[11:52] <nu-> that works for me fine.
[11:52] <DVS01> thanks elifed
[11:52] <nu-> i can see the flash with the chinese fonts
[11:52] <elifed> DVS01, np
[11:52] <dooglus> fiery_cleric: so $'\n' is just a way to get bash to use a newline character?
[11:53] <rasputnik> morning all
[11:53] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, Yes, that is a flash name fighting game in Chinese.
[11:53] <rasputnik> anyone got nfsv4 (client) working?  when I try ubuntu gives me 'mount: unknown filesystem type 'nfs4''
[11:53] <elifed> rasputnik, good morning
[11:53] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: yea i can see. are you positive it works in windows? you just checked?
[11:54] <dooglus> fiery_cleric: oh, I see:  bash(1) tells me "Words of the form $'string' are treated specially" ... "\n   new line" - good knowledge!
[11:54] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, yes. it works in Windows.
[11:54] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: give me a minute
[11:54] <elifed> dooglus, bash is a pretty damn capable scripting language
[11:55] <fiery_cleric> dooglus: in other quoting the \n is treated as  just n  ... yeah combined with IFS its one of the most useful things about bash that i have found
[11:55] <guinessroxors> how can i delete all mysql databases and return it to a clean state?
[11:56] <rausb0> fiery_cleric: thats nice. i thought only echo handles this \n notation
[11:56] <guinessroxors> elifed, are you a particle physicist?
[11:57] <elifed> nope
[11:57] <guinessroxors> :-(
[11:57] <rasputnik> guinessroxors: what, flatten the whole thing? something like 'apt-get remove --purge mysql....'
[11:57] <elifed> yeah, sorry about that :P
[11:57] <gioele> hello
[11:57] <guinessroxors> rasputnik, lemme try that
[11:58] <rasputnik> guinessroxors: if you just want to get rid of some databases, go for 'drop database foo' in a mysql session
[11:58] <gioele> do anybody know how "linux32" on amd64 is supposed to work?
[11:59] <VSpike> Using maildrop, if I want to filter messages based on which of my mail accounts they were sent to, should I filter on the Envelope-to: field?
[11:59] <gioele> linux32 ./opera
[11:59] <gioele> ./opera: 325: ./bin/opera: not found
[11:59] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, <OBJECT CLASSID="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"CODEBASE="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=5,0,0,0"WIDTH="700" HEIGHT="450"><PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high><PARAM NAME="SRC" VALUE="http://files.myopera.com/aaroncn/files/NamePK.swf"><EMBED QUALITY=high PLUGINSPAGE="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"TYPE="application/x-shockwave-flash"WIDTH
[11:59] <Aaronfromchina> ="0" HEIGHT="450" SRC="Flash"> </EMBED></OBJECT>
[11:59] <gioele> (obviously ./bin/opera exists)
[11:59] <Aaronfromchina> sorry.
[11:59] <elifed> whoa
[11:59] <rasputnik> gioele: does it run in a chroot or something?
[11:59] <Aaronfromchina> it's too long to paste here.  Sorry about that.
[11:59] <Luxurious> gioele: Just guessing, linux64 :P
[12:00] <gioele> rasputnik: no, it is a static app
[12:01] <Luxurious> gioele: Try putting in the full path in linux32
[12:01] <rasputnik> gioele: no, I mean is that how linux32 works?
[12:01] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: you still there?
[12:01] <rambo3_> what?
[12:01] <elifed> Aaronfromchina, if you're really from China, your English is amazing
[12:01] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, yes. I'm eating and thinking. :)
[12:01] <rasputnik> elifed: not as good as his html
[12:01] <abc123456> hhj
[12:01] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: one minute =]
[12:01] <Aaronfromchina> elifed, yes, I'm from China. Thank you. :)
[12:02] <Aaronfromchina> elifed, living in Shen Zhen.
[12:02] <variant> Alumin: is there a problem with that? my girl friend is from sweden and her english is way better than mine..
[12:02] <gioele> Luxurious: no. same error
[12:03] <Luxurious> gioele: Wonder why the utility would lie to you about the file existing.
[12:04] <lush> hi. does anybody know how long shipit cds take to reach Sydney, Australia?
[12:04] <Luxurious> I'm not too good for pronouns.
[12:04] <guinessroxors> rasputnik, thanks
[12:04] <rasputnik> lush: they send them out in batches, it can take months
[12:04] <elifed> rasputnik, then his HTML must be outright scary :P
[12:04] <Vluid> HJ
[12:05] <rasputnik> guinessroxors: worked? cool.
[12:05] <gioele> lush: 14 or 20 days. It is better to ask to your local LUG
[12:05] <lush> thank you rasputnik
[12:05] <lush> thank you gioele
[12:05] <rasputnik> lush: maybe they're waiting for feisty?
[12:05] <abc123456> how are you?
[12:05] <abc123456> lush
[12:06] <rambo3_> Aaronfromchina, type in firefox  : about:plugins
[12:06] <lush> im fine. right now they're taking pre-orders for feisty
[12:07] <lush> i pre-ordered my feisty cds today
[12:08] <elifed> so far Feisty is looking very good
[12:08] <lush> i also ordered a free blag linux and gnu 60000 cd from thelinuxstore.ca
[12:08] <ArtVandalae> Only 3 days ><
[12:08] <ArtVandalae> If it's not delayed
[12:08] <elifed> I'm mucking with Xubuntu right now
[12:08] <lush> btw im in Sydney
[12:08] <Aaronfromchina> rambo3_, it lists shockware flash and Helix DNA plguin.
[12:09] <elifed> lush, what is Blag based on?
[12:09] <rambo3_> Aaronfromchina, what version of shockwave
[12:09] <lush> fedora core 6
[12:09] <elifed> lush, or is it its own animal
[12:09] <elifed> ah, okay
[12:09] <Aaronfromchina> rambo3_, under shockware flash, there are x-shockware-flash and futuresplace. The version is 9.0 r31
[12:10] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: You there?
[12:10] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, yes
[12:10] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: look: http://noobcircle.com/test.html
[12:10] <rambo3_> Aaronfromchina, thats just diferent filetype its OK then
[12:10] <rambo3_> are both activted ?
[12:10] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, I can see it!
[12:10] <nu-> Does it show on your screen
[12:10] <nu-> yay!
[12:11] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, yes!
[12:11] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: so it must be your html code
[12:11] <lush> also blag is recommended by richard stallman
[12:11] <elifed> Aaronfromchina, diff -u ;)
[12:11] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, OK.
[12:11] <lush> sorry Richard Stallman
[12:11] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: just look at the source code and copy it. change the path of course, and the dimensions
[12:11] <rasputnik> whee, nfsv4 works1
[12:12] <rasputnik> s/1/!
[12:13] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, OK. Thank you very much. I'll figure it out. :)
[12:13] <Aaronfromchina> rambo3_, Thanks for you help. :)
[12:13] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: No Problem. =]
[12:14] <h1st0> *yawn*
[12:14] <rambo3_> np
[12:14] <rambo3_> lush, Stallman recomended blag ? who would in their sane mind reommend rpm ditro
[12:16] <lush> well, its a completely free distro. but Stallman probably recommends gnewsense over Blag
[12:16] <lush> since the FSF sponsor gnewsense
[12:19] <lush> why isn't anyone chatting anymore?
[12:19] <DVS01> i guess its that time of the day
[12:20] <Luxurious> Richard Stallman is an extremist, not a consumer.  He does what's necessary to work on his cause and has principles that a consumer might not have, so don't be sorry :-)
[12:20] <GnarlyBob> Luxurious: you're being too kind
[12:21] <rasputnik> ok, new home directory time. see you after a reboot
[12:21] <rasputnik> hopefully
[12:21] <Luxurious> Oh, right, I mean "Richard Stallman is an idiot!1!1!!!one!!"
[12:22] <GnarlyBob> Wow, mv communications is still around, talk about a blast from the past
[12:23] <Luxurious> FreeNode should have a procrastination support channel.
[12:23] <GnarlyBob> they're going to
[12:23] <GnarlyBob> some day
[12:24] <MarcN> GnarlyBob: I'm very happy with MV since the early 1990s.
[12:24] <Luxurious> Sweet
[12:24] <letronje> hi, any idea how to enable delay pools in squid in edgy?
[12:24] <rambo3_> meh fark quotes
[12:24] <GnarlyBob> MarcN: it's good to see that a little neighborhood ISP can stand on its own
[12:25] <foug> My monitor goes idle after about 5 minutes of not being used, it might be something else not sure. I've checked my screen saver and power save options and nothing in there seems to be causing this. Anyone have any ieda?
[12:25] <MarcN> GnarlyBob: you in NH?
[12:25] <rasputnik> yay, still alive
[12:25] <GnarlyBob> MarcN: I am now, yes
[12:25] <Luxurious> --"Internet Access since 1991"
[12:25] <Aaronfromchina> nu-,
[12:25] <burung_hitam> aku perempuan
[12:25] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: yea?
[12:26] <rasputnik> NFSv4 feels a bit faster than local XFS in fact
[12:26] <GnarlyBob> MarcN: I was sysadm at tiac in 93-94
[12:26] <Luxurious> MV Communications -- "Web Page since 1997"
[12:26] <GnarlyBob> hahah
[12:26] <MarcN> Luxurious: "Internet Access since 1991"
[12:26] <Aaronfromchina> nu-, I've got the problem solved.  Now the flash works fine. Thanks a lot.
[12:27] <Luxurious> Check out the nested list and counter at the bottom of their page.
[12:27] <Luxurious> HAHA
[12:27] <Luxurious> The copyright notice says 1997-2006
[12:27] <GnarlyBob> Luxurious: they're doing _something_ right, they're a really old small-town ISP that's still in business
[12:27] <nu-> Aaronfromchina: No big deal. happens to the best of us =]
[12:27] <Aaronfromchina> :)
[12:28] <GnarlyBob> even if that something isn't their website :)
[12:28] <MarcN> Luxurious: they started as an access, not a web hosting company.  The techs answer the phones and can answer linux-related questions.
[12:28] <Luxurious> MarcN: I made up that slogan to reflect their 1997-style web site.
[12:28] <Luxurious> Sounds like a cool company anyways.
[12:29] <Luxurious> Though their usage of nested lists will haunt me in my dreams.
[12:30] <lush> hello. what should i do if i want to post a very big sentence over here?
[12:30] <foug> My monitor goes idle after about 5 minutes of not being used, it might be something else not sure. I've checked my screen saver and power save options and nothing in there seems to be causing this. Anyone have any ieda?
[12:30] <Luxurious> lush: Pastebin it and e-mail us the link.
[12:30] <lush> how do i pastebin it?
[12:30] <Luxurious> pastey.net
[12:31] <lush> ok thank you
[12:31] <Luxurious> No prob.    Don't be scared.
[12:34] <Layer8> does anyone have a clue how to configure libpam-ccreds ?
[12:37] <Aaronfromchina> Any software can convert MP3 to RealAudio?
[12:38] <AMDXP> hi there any photographers
[12:38] <nu-> Does ubuntu have a mail server?
[12:38] <lush> ok here's the link: http://www.pastey.net/12819. please see it
[12:39] <Luxurious> That, lush, is not a really big sentence, but thank you for being considerate.
[12:39] <rambo3_> AMDXP, try #ubuntuforums
[12:40] <AMDXP> rambo ok thanks
[12:40] <rambo3_> on the account of ff theme  i ll leave it
[12:40] <lush> Whenever i close Firefox, that error message comes. what could be the problem?
[12:41] <Layer8> nu- what are you looking for?
[12:41] <lush> could it be a problem in about:config?
[12:42] <moDumass> Hey all, could someone please help me make my previously writable NTFS writable again, i did something that mashed that setup
[12:42] <rambo3_> moDumass, just mount it with ntfs-3g as  part type
[12:43] <drumline_> Is there a linux chkdsk utility for NTFS that will fix the file system?
[12:44] <lush> Apart from that message when I close Firefox, Firefox seems to work just fine
[12:44] <lush> but its annoying having that message come everytime i close firefox
[12:45] <moDumass> rambo3 its mounted and i have it listed in fstab
[12:45] <lush> i think it may be a problem in about:config, but i don't know how to fix it
[12:45] <rambo3_> lush, and message says what? you posted a micro image
[12:46] <lush> wait, i'll upload a bigger picture
[12:46] <askar> I can not write to my external hd.. the owner is root?
[12:47] <kernando> hello im using a guide just after i installed ubuntu but none of it has worked i get errors all of the place http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/02/13-things-to-do-immediately-after.html
[12:48] <kernando> :/