[21:25] <ox1de> OK, i burned teh version 12 live CD, and am attempting to reinstall... how do i load the CD?
[21:25] <DJDanJazz> hello
[21:25] <ejv> everyone else should wait until July 19th, for 12.04.1
[21:25] <EvilResistance> samster34, then your computer might not be compatible
[21:26] <DJDanJazz> :-)
[21:26] <ThePendulum> Fyodorovna: I'm not quite sure if that restarts the panel or just reconfigs something
[21:26] <ejv> (that is, if you can't afford to troubleshoot)
[21:26] <buzzkill> sounds like samster34 has the BIOS Setting for 'only MS' set.
[21:26] <samster34> EvilResistance: in fact, NO live cd of any distro seems to work
[21:26] <Bennlucky7> whons: its checkin if all the file already downloaded
[21:26] <Fyodorovna> ThePendulum, restarts compiz this is unity right?
[21:26] <samster34> buzzkill: the bios has like 5 settings, none of them are that one :p
[21:26] <marcusk> ox1de: Depends on your computer, many of them have some form of boot menu when you launch them
[21:26] <ThePendulum> Fyodorovna: Touché, forgot about the Unity part
[21:26] <EvilResistance> samster34, then your computer may either (1) have hardware breakage, or (2) global incompatibility
[21:26] <ox1de> i cant seem to load teh CD
[21:26] <ox1de> No init found. try passing init= bootarg.
[21:26] <ox1de> busybox v1.13.3 (ubuntu 1:1.13.3-ubuntu11) built in shell (ash)
[21:26] <ox1de> enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
[21:26] <ox1de> (initramfs) [  3.060259 ieee1394: host added: id:bus[0-00:1023] GUID[000ae4aaaa27c398]
[21:26] <FloodBot1> ox1de: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <buzzkill> 'twas a joke samster34
[21:26] <ox1de> thats what i see on boot
[21:26] <Bennlucky7> whons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[21:27] <samster34> the only time I was able to boot a live CD was mint, booting into the shell, deleting the X11 config, starting X...but as I said the install wouldn't complete
[21:27] <bantu> Hey. I'm getting "Hash Sum mismatch" on do-release-upgrade for a few packages.
[21:27] <lindows> does ubuntu have support for 3g modems ?
[21:27] <RedNifre> Hi!
[21:28] <munkbusiness> lol Ubuntu 12.04 has bugged out and is unable to run Opera
[21:28] <decksmasher> My laptop isn't partitioned it just has Ubuntu 10.10 on it,its weird why the cd works in xp but wont show up in ubuntu.?
[21:28] <wang_> hello
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> lindows  you may need usb-modeswitch
[21:28] <wang_> I upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04.... I saw an error when it tried to upgrade the kernel (space issue, init-rd failed)
[21:28] <thephantom> Can I copy the drive that my current Ubuntu OS is running on? Or do I need to do it of a live cd?
[21:28] <wang_> How do If ix it before I reboot? otherwise I am afraid my system won't boot
[21:30] <ejv> thephantom: you can use 'dd' to perform a copy of a partition
[21:30] <munkbusiness> Can anyone help me with this I cannot run Opera on Ubuntu 12.04 it could the first time I launched it but after closing it down I am now unable to run it
[21:30] <Logan_> wang_: It always keeps the old kernel.
[21:30] <cute_bettong> ubuntu rocks! XD
[21:30] <wang_> Logan_: even when you upgrade?
[21:30] <samster34> what are the chances of this working: install ubuntu on pc #1, move disk to pc #2? hardware is similar, both intel chipsets, both intel cpus, both nvidia gfx
[21:30] <L3top> wang_: are you out of space?
[21:30] <ejv> example from docs: dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/home/hda1.bin bs=1024
[21:31] <Fyodorovna> thephantom, copy meaning the whole OS or just specifics?
[21:31] <airlynx> I recently installed 12.04 on my Toshiba Satellite A205, and when I plug in my USB headset XFCE closes to a terminal screen, last message is Stopping System V runlevel, I don't get any crash reports in /var/crash, can anyone help me figure out what is causing it to crash so that I can either fix it or submit a bug report?
[21:31] <thephantom> Sorry, I mean can I use ddrescue to copy the drive that my installations of Ubuntu is running from or should I do it from a live cd?
[21:31] <rymate1234> imma download 12.04
[21:31] <InferiorHumanOrg> samster34: ubuntu might adjust for the h/w changes. it may also fail.
[21:31] <thephantom> Installation**
[21:31] <rymate1234> why? so I can seed
[21:31] <rymate1234> :D
[21:31] <wang_> L3top, yes it ran out of space.. then it proceeded to delete some old kernels so its better now.. but I want to make sure the kernel boots iwth no issues.. is there a way?
[21:31] <wang_> the new kernel
[21:31] <samster34> InferiorHumanOrg: it can't fail worse than not installing in the first place. Imma give it a shot...
[21:31] <Bennlucky7> samster34:  i think that will work
[21:31] <L3top> oh no...
[21:31] <decksmasher> I also have a copy of xp wich i want to put in to a virtual machine, but it says this disc is blank too.? but the actual cd drive works perfectly with other discs
[21:32] <Fyodorovna> thephantom, you can't dd your os while using it as far as I know.
[21:32] <ejv> Fyodorovna: you can, the important parts anyways, like /etc/ /home/ /var/log; just not stuff like /proc :)
[21:32] <upset> I checked the iso before and after I wrote it to usb. The disk check error I have says there's a bad checksum for ./install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default    What can I do?
[21:33] <EvilResistance> upset, redownload the image and rewrite it to the USB stick
[21:33] <Bennlucky7> upset: redownload :-D
[21:33] <ejv> dd-ing /dev and /proc during use would probably return some interesting results
[21:33] <upset> EvilResistance: I have done that over and over all day
[21:33] <ds_> If anyone can help me, I'm stumped on this embarrassing little problem. I seem to be unable to install BitchX. I've unpacked the tarball and ./BitchX gives "no such file or directory".
[21:33] <Fyodorovna> !cookie | ejv
[21:33] <ThePendulum> How do I hide the indicator panel on the top?
[21:34] <ox1de> arg; still stuck over hre
[21:34]  * ejv noms
[21:34] <ox1de> here
[21:35] <upset> EvilResistance: I have used all the downloads available, dd, unetbootin, and startup disk creator to write it, and checked the md5 checksum four different ways (it's good right until I try the disk integrity check from the live drive itself)
[21:35] <decksmasher> ds_ is that a theme for irssi?
[21:35] <bantu> Apparently my problem is caused by apt-cacher-ng. WTF.
[21:35] <alien64> Striking7: yeah no go here for Glossy-Glass 0.5.1
[21:35] <upset> Bennlucky7:I have used all the downloads available, dd, unetbootin, and startup disk creator to write it, and checked the md5 checksum four different ways (it's good right until I try the disk integrity check from the live drive itself)
[21:35] <alien64> i did look :P
[21:35] <auronandace> decksmasher: bitchx is an abandoned irc client
[21:35] <upset> Sorry to repeat, shoulda tagged you in the first place
[21:36] <ox1de> d(>_<)b
[21:36] <auronandace> ds_: why not use irssi or weechat?
[21:36] <kwehmucdee> +1 for irssi
[21:36] <Fyodorovna> ThePendulum, unity, gnome 3, and ubuntu classic have set top panels, you might try xubuntu if you want easier desktop tweaking, any of many others like fluxbox.
[21:36] <ox1de> konversation is the best linux irc client imo
[21:36] <Bennlucky7> upset: what integrity check?
[21:36] <auronandace> ox1de: best is subjective
[21:36] <ejv> why couldn't they call it kahn-versation
[21:36] <ox1de> i'm still stuck here.... i need to get the liveCD to load for reinstall
[21:36]  * ejv facepalms
[21:36] <decksmasher> auronandace..ok becouse i downloaded bitchx has a theme foe irssi.;)
[21:36] <upset> Bennlucky7: The one on alternative iso.
[21:36] <ds_> auronandace: yeah, I can try something else... still weird I couldn't install this, but. I just need something really oldschool.
[21:37] <ejv> konversation reminds me of xchat
[21:37] <Fyodorovna> ox1de, do you need the torent link?
[21:37] <ejv> doesn't hold a candle to irssi though
[21:37] <ox1de> what torrent?
[21:37] <Bennlucky7> ThePendulum: try search indicator in software center
[21:37] <tehowe_> Hmmmn some guy said #ubuntu is trending on the twitters but not from where I sit... ppl should start hammering it though
[21:37] <auronandace> ds_: irssi should suit you, bitchx is no longer developed, thats why it isn't in the repos
[21:37] <diverdude> if i do find . -iname "*.sh"  i can find all .sh files recursively. But is it possible to do a "except filenames containing *something*"  somehow?
[21:38] <upset> Bennlucky7: It's the only thing complaining. It says the ./install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default md5 checksum is bad, but everything else says it is corrected and I've exhausted most methods of writing and checking.
[21:38] <Fyodorovna> ox1de, "i'm still stuck here.... i need to get the liveCD to load for reinstall" unquote
[21:38] <xlREDlx> hey guys i got a little problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/948314/
[21:38] <ox1de> i burnt the iso already... but i need it to load for reinstall..
[21:38] <xlREDlx> got a bad package
[21:38] <ox1de> how do i make it load?
[21:38] <ds_> auronandace: alright. I'll give irssi I try. But even though bitchx isn't in repos, the unpacked tarball shouldn't give no such file or directory?
[21:38] <xlREDlx> can some one tell me how to remove it
[21:38] <xlREDlx> sudo apt-get remove/purge wont work
[21:39] <upset> ox1de: Put disk in tray, close tray, change bios to boot from cd
[21:39] <Striking7> alien64: Thanks for looking!
[21:39] <auronandace> ds_: where did you unpack it to? remember its case sensitive too
[21:39] <ox1de> i did that and it still didnt load
[21:39] <Striking7> I really miss that icon theme.
[21:39] <numberto> Hi guys, my screen resolution stuck at 800X640 (Ubuntu 12.04  - installed nvidia and then did "nvidia-xconfig")
[21:39] <numberto> after restart
[21:39] <samster34_> um..can I install the alternate iso without a network connection?
[21:39] <upset> ox1de:  I dunno. Use a different program to burn it.
[21:39] <ds_> auronandace: just home/downloads, and I used tab-completion, so...
[21:39] <Fyodorovna> ox1de, so you have a cd  that errors right? Have you then checked the md5sum, and was it burned as an image?
[21:39] <Striking7> It went perfect with the Black Knight GTK2 theme (which is also really hard to find)
[21:39] <upset> ox1de: Or try another iso
[21:39] <marcusk> samster34_: yes
[21:40] <ox1de> i tried 2 isos
[21:40] <ox1de> no luck yet
[21:40] <marcusk> samster34_: just skip that part of it
[21:40] <upset> ox1de: Use a mirror
[21:40] <samster34_> marcusk: how do I ttell it to stop asking me for an archive mirror
[21:40] <Fyodorovna> ox1de, burn at slowest speed as well, or use a usb flash.
[21:40] <auronandace> ds_: well, its a lot better sticking to the repos anyway, installing stuff from source isn't really recommended unless you know what you are doing
[21:40] <upset> ox1de: Maybe check the md5 checksum as well
[21:40] <xlREDlx> back package any help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/948314/
[21:41] <ds_> auronandace: hehe...
[21:41] <ox1de> what is md5 checksum?
[21:41] <upset> Bennlucky7: Still there dude?
[21:41] <Bennlucky7> upset:  maybe there is somthing wrong with ur burner
[21:41] <decksmasher> sudo apt-get install irssi
[21:41] <ds_> auronandace: I hear ya, I thought I knew what I was doing, but obviously not.
[21:41] <upset> Bennlucky7: I don't have a burner.
[21:41] <alien64> Striking7: ill keep looking for ya , you be in here?
[21:41] <upset> Bennlucky7: USB is my method
[21:41] <marcusk> samster34_: could be that the standard installer does that, if I remember correct you can at least skip it if you select expert install but now I'm not really sure
[21:41] <ejv> md5 is a crypto hash function my friend
[21:41] <Striking7> alien64: Sure thing. You can always PM me too if you'd like
[21:41] <ox1de> explain? how do i access md5?
[21:41] <Fyodorovna> !md5sum | ox1de
[21:41] <upset> Pushy
[21:42] <alien64> Striking7: will do
[21:42] <ox1de> oh isee what u mean
[21:42] <Fyodorovna> ox1de, ^^^^^^
[21:42] <ox1de> i'll try burning the iso again
[21:42] <auronandace> ds_: if you do insist on installing from source then there is a good link
[21:42] <rymate1234> meh
[21:42] <upset> ox1de: Also, tag someone you're talking to
[21:42] <Bennlucky7> upset: can it install ubuntu without check it?
[21:42] <Striking7> alien64: You may enjoy the Black Knight theme, too... I'll upload it somewhere real fast in case you're curious.
[21:42] <auronandace> !checkinstall | ds_
[21:42] <rymate1234> why are the repo's so slooooow
[21:42] <samster34_> marcusk: I can "select the next in the install process"...but none of the options are "just install it already!"
[21:42] <upset> Bennlucky7: Yeah, but that sounds like a really bad idea.
[21:42] <Timbo> turns out the upgrade screwed up the permissions on my nfs mounted /home
[21:42] <ox1de> ok bbiab
[21:42] <auronandace> rymate1234: because 12.04 was released today
[21:43] <Fyodorovna> rymate1234, guess
[21:43] <upset> Bennlucky7: I don't really think I can ignore a bad checksum on something in the ubuntu-installer folder.
[21:43] <rymate1234> meh lol
[21:43] <rymate1234> wait
[21:43] <rymate1234> 8.04 is still supported?
[21:43] <Ntemis> i have 10.04.4 64bit, any benefits going to 12.04?
[21:43] <Bennlucky7> upset: but the iso check md5 is same?
[21:43] <auronandace> rymate1234: on server but not for long
[21:44] <Fyodorovna> rymate1234, the server yes
[21:44] <rymate1234> olol
[21:44] <ds_> auronandace: ah thanks. But this was actually a binary.  http://www.bitchx.com/download.php
[21:44] <vespakoen> Hey guys, when i open the launcher, and on the login screen, the topbar looks awesome! is there a way to have it enabled all the time ?
[21:44] <upset> Bennlucky7: It doesn't tell me what the bad value is. It just says it's wrong. Everything else gives me 'okay' or the correct overall checksum
[21:44] <xtjacob> hello, is there anyway to change the resolution of the ubuntu boot up screen?
[21:44] <MSU> msg /NickServer login
[21:44] <MSU> doh
[21:44] <kwehmucdee> lol MSU
[21:45] <MSU> irc fail
[21:45] <Bennlucky7> upset: maybe u shld try it redownload again, dont rest ur pc during the download for safety
[21:45] <samster34_> argh, how the hell do I install from the alternate iso? the expert mode gives me a bunch of to conigure, but how do I START the install?!
[21:45] <upset> Bennlucky7: I have done that ALL DAY
[21:46] <Sysss> Hi how to know what program uses my internet bandwidth?
[21:46] <upset> samster34_: Expert mode?
[21:46] <Striking7> alien64: In case you want to check out my favorite GTK theme :) znatd.com/bk.tar.gz
[21:46] <decksmasher> sysss try using htop
[21:46] <samster34_> same as regular mod except you can choose in what order you do thesteps :p
[21:46] <upset> samster34_: Install is the default item, the rest are pretty much safety checks and recovery tools....
[21:46] <MSU> erm, silly question, how does one "log in" their irc account, Ruby on Rails channel requires me be registered...
[21:46] <Sysss> decksmasher: ok i try now
[21:46] <kwehmucdee> upset: Did you download from torrent? Downloading from torrents will assure you no corrupted iso
[21:46] <Logan_> !identify | MSU
[21:47] <auronandace> !register | MSU
[21:47] <upset> kwehmucdee: I did.
[21:47] <samster34_> upset:  I am stuck on the "choose ubuntu archive mirror" menu, because...well I dnt have a netwok connection.
[21:47] <Bennlucky7> upset: yeah i know that it kind upset me too to hear that
[21:47] <MSU> !identify | MSU
[21:47] <kwehmucdee> And yet you have a corrupted iso?
[21:47] <samster34_> upset: it wnt let me proceed
[21:47] <Logan_> MSU: /msg nickserv identify <password>
[21:47] <upset> Bennlucky7: What are you referring to?
[21:47] <alien64> Striking7: ty
[21:48] <iHarp> 12.04 doesn't like the only two propriatary drivers I have listed.. I can't game so what do I do?
[21:48] <jschall> so, if i want to use empathy to make calls, how can i set that up? it's a voip client, right?
[21:48] <MSU> cool, thank you
[21:48] <upset> samster34_: I don't know what you've got going on. You're not supposed to need a network connection and that's not a menu I've reached.
[21:48] <kwehmucdee> I thought torrent automatically checks integrity of every chunk and if it's corrupted it just redownload it (waaay better than redownload an entire iso!)
[21:48] <sun_devil> Not sure why Ubuntu does not recognize my cdrom drive?
[21:49] <upset> kwehmucdee: All my downloads have been pretty fast, but I have no clue what is actually happening.
[21:49] <Bennlucky7> upset: i once install it from LinuxLive USB Creator
[21:49] <wolfmitchell> Ugh, I hate how some people call Ubuntu "Noobuntu"....
[21:49] <qEssence> Hello.
[21:49] <samster34_> upset: first it asks me to select the primary netwok adapter, then it tries to conect to an archive mirror...and when it cant connect, it goes back to select archive mirror....
[21:49] <Sysss> decksmasher: how to use htop
[21:49] <progre55> hi guys. I have an encrypted /home partition, but it doesnt mount automatically on logon. I have to manually mount it from tty before I can login. Any suggestions, please?
[21:49] <samster34_> upset: but Im OFFLINE, and I can't skip the step
[21:49] <upset> wolfmitchell: Yeah, us elite H@XXORZ have it tough.
[21:50] <cute_bettong> O_O
[21:50] <cute_bettong> thats lame
[21:50] <upset> samster34_: I think you need to use something better to burn the iso.
[21:50] <samster34_> upset: ???
[21:50] <cute_bettong> upset, i reccomend K3b
[21:50] <upset> samster34_: I think that's where this weird menu is coming from
[21:50] <iHarp> anyone else having trouble with nvidia drivers in 12.04?
[21:50] <wolfmitchell> upset- You should see #powder. They flame Ubuntu
[21:50] <upset> cute_bettong: You recommend what now?
[21:51] <jschall> does the software center protect the system from being shut down when its installing updates? i've had a kubuntu system get totally hosed because of that
[21:51] <cute_bettong> upset, K3b
[21:51] <kwehmucdee> iHarp: not me
[21:51] <cute_bettong> upset, it's a awesome disk burning app the best i've ever used
[21:51] <kwehmucdee> they works well
[21:51] <upset> cute_bettong: I don't have a disk.
[21:51] <Ibyss> Is there an uptodate "How to install ubuntu/full disk encryption" tutorial that I can use? I can not use an old one as it does not work with ubuntu 12.04 for some weird reason.  I have four HDDS, First one is a SSD INTEL, and the others are identical Barracuda ST 3TB. Ubuntu installation only recognize the SSD, and one of the 3TB hdd, but i need to install Ubuntu in one of the others, not being recognized.
[21:51] <cute_bettong> upset, oh O_o
[21:52] <cute_bettong> sudo apt-get install k3b
[21:52] <upset> cute_bettong: Nah, I'm good. I have no cd drive.
[21:52] <qEssence> Weird, i think it can be something related to 3gb/6gb ports, just wondering.
[21:52] <sun_devil> I did a cd /media/cdrom   My system shows a floppy drive, but I do not have a floppy, maybe my system is imagining things how they used to me?
[21:52] <qEssence> Anyone has handled this before?
[21:52] <samster34_> upset: the options I have in he beginning are: Default, Install, Command-line  Install, Expert Install, Command-line Expert Install, Rescue mode, Install Ubunt, and then the memtest etc tools
[21:53] <Fyodorovna>  qEssence 3 tb is a gpt setup most likely, not familiar with the install though.
[21:53] <iHarp> kwehmucdee:  When I install either of the Proprietary Drivers I log back in to a lagged out screen with no interface..
[21:53] <xlREDlx> can some one help me http://paste.ubuntu.com/948314/
[21:53] <jschall> servers are so slow... will apt-fast speed up the software center or do you have to use it manually?
[21:53] <xlREDlx> java bugged out on install and I can't remove the bad packages
[21:53] <xlREDlx> can some one help me
[21:53] <qEssence> Fyodorovna: But it does recognize one of them why not the others?
[21:54] <qEssence> Fyodorovna: Im not familiar with "gpt", sorry, newbie on this side :)
[21:54] <Fyodorovna> qEssence, I would guess broken partition tables, but that is a guess.
[21:54] <upset> Does anyone know what I can do? Can I replace ./install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default?
[21:54] <chris_w> are there any recommendations which local apt cache to use? i found apt-cacher-ng and squid-deb-proxy.
[21:54] <jschall> qEssence: you might try gparted to see what it sees
[21:54] <finish06> unity launcher is on both monitors... how do I take if off of one
[21:54] <xlREDlx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/948314/
[21:54] <xlREDlx> can I get some help
[21:54] <qEssence> jschall: Im on "Utility Disk" i do not see the HHDs mentioned, just two of them.
[21:55] <sun_devil> Be patient
[21:55] <Fyodorovna> qEssence, if you read this you will probably know more then me I have not had to mess with it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
[21:55] <qEssence> Fyodorovna: Thanks.
[21:55] <upset> Oh my God
[21:56] <semitones_tea> this is also a good place to go and look / ask for help, especially if you have a specific issue and no one here is able to help now: http://ubuntuforums.org/
[21:56] <jschall> qEssence: well, try gparted maybe? it should see the disks with or without a bad partition table
[21:56] <xlREDlx> any one know how to remove bad packages
[21:56] <upset> I can't believe I waisted so many hours on this. PXELINUX is for booting ubuntu from a server.
[21:56] <jschall> qEssence: are the drives visible from other OSes?
[21:56] <sun_devil> Use rm
[21:56] <upset> Somebody run me over with a truck, I'm so frustrated
[21:56] <qEssence> jschall: Running Gparted now.
[21:56] <Fyodorovna> jschall, not true a broken table will block it showing.
[21:56] <jschall> xlREDlx: is your package manager hosed?
[21:56] <xlREDlx> sigh I do not wish to delete my harddrive sun_devil
[21:57] <samster34_> upset: I know the feeling. been trying to install ANY linux for weeks now...
[21:57] <qEssence> jschall: Only two HDDS being showed-
[21:57] <xlREDlx> yea java fd it a bit jschall
[21:57] <jschall> qEssence: are they shown in other OSes?
[21:57] <saimon777> can someone suggest me a valid guide to configure mpd properly? i already done it, but mpd don't find music in my external drive
[21:57] <upset> samster34_: Why are you having problems? Have you never used it before?
[21:57] <qEssence> jschall: Yep, I use them on Win7
[21:57] <sun_devil> If you installed it, you can remove it
[21:57] <xlREDlx> jschall how do I remove it (i allready used apt-get remove/purge and clean
[21:57] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: is the user who owns the folder your music is in, the same user you configured mpd to run as? in the /etc/mpd.conf file ?
[21:58] <finish06> unity launcher is on both monitors... how do I take if off of one
[21:58] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: probably a permissions issue
[21:58] <saimon777> i think no
[21:58] <munkbusiness> why does ubuntu dicatate which browsers i can use?
[21:58] <samster34_> upset: no, I have, but apparently the video drivers wont work on this computer, and nomodeset someho leavesmy keyboard nonfunctional
[21:58] <sun_devil> sigh     a package
[21:58] <upset> finish06: Technically that's how it's supposed to be
[21:58] <xubu2> #ubuntu+1
[21:58] <saimon777> but mpd if daemon can acces like root?
[21:58] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: make sure the mpd user owns the folder your music is in, I have mpd run as my user since I own my music folders....
[21:58] <finish06> upset, WHAT!!!!!  crappy.  i thought we had the open to change it
[21:58] <upset> samster34_: Er, compile it yourself?
[21:58] <jschall> xlREDlx: what happens when you use apt-get remove?
[21:58] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: it's not needed or advised to run mpd as root I believe certainly not needed
[21:59] <jschall> god empathy is the most annoying irc client i've ever used
[21:59] <xlREDlx> nothing jschall I get no package same with purge
[21:59] <upset> finish06: Canonical is all about no options now. Also, watch your language. This channel is business casual
[21:59] <upset> jschall: You have terrible tastes!
[21:59] <samster34_> upset: uh, wha? I cant install any linux, I cant boot into shell, I cant do anthing,
[21:59] <chelz> samster34_: try the alternate installer
[22:00] <upset> I'm outtie.
[22:00] <upset> Be good kids and check you checksums.
[22:00] <chelz> upset: checksums is lies
[22:00] <samster34_> chelz: I have. it wont lett me proceed without an internet connection
[22:00] <upset> .... And check whether you care about your bad checksums
[22:00] <jschall> xlREDlx: what do you mean by "no package?" tell me exactly what it says.
[22:00] <chelz> samster34_: what part do you get to?
[22:00] <xlREDlx> jschall E: Unable to locate package oracle-java-installer
[22:01] <xlREDlx> and when ever I try to sudo apt-get install i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/948314/
[22:01] <Striking7> finish06: I'm with you on that. I still recommend ubuntu to friends, but I switched to PinguyOS to keep my options open.
[22:01] <sun_devil> my 10.4 version does not recognize my cdrom drive, has not worked since Ubuntu was installed
[22:01] <samster34_> chelz: choose language, kyboard layut, primary network adapter, choose ubuntu archive mirror, download installer components (but I'M offline, that can't work)
[22:01] <finish06> Striking7, thank you, i will have to look @ OS
[22:01] <jschall> xlREDlx: output of apt-cache policy oracle-java-installer?
[22:01] <Striking7> finish06: There's always KDE too - if you're not used to it it will take a little time getting used to it, but it's very configurable.
[22:01] <finish06> Striking7, never liked kde personally
[22:02] <chelz> samster34_: you sure you're using the alternate cd and not minimal?
[22:02] <Striking7> finish06: It's based on Ubuntu 11.04 and is pretty snazzy.
[22:02] <jschall> xlREDlx: you can summarize or post to pastebin
[22:02] <samster34_> chelz: yes
[22:02] <xlREDlx> will do jschall
[22:02] <noeltorious> so im on the livecd choosing install ubuntu alongside windows 7 and it brings me to a screen to allocate drive space but the two sizes im allocating arent labeled with ubuntu or windows. does anyone know which is which?
[22:03] <Striking7> finish06: I tend to toggle back and forth between KDE and Gnome now and again. I usually prefer Gnome, but Gnome3, Gnome-Shell, and Unity don't really do it for me.
[22:03] <chelz> samster34_: sounds like the netboot cd
[22:03] <semitones_tea> i think the first one is windows noeltorious but i don't know
[22:03] <chelz> samster34_: what's the name of the iso file you're using?
[22:03] <samster34_> ubuntu-12.04-alternate-amd64.iso
[22:03] <Ibyss> Why doesn't Ubuntu installer offer full disk encryption?
[22:03] <schultza> im not getting the LTS to LTS upgrade notification
[22:03] <finish06> I like ubuntu when the launcher is on a single screen, as if was in 11.10 for me, now it isn't doing as such again... was this both screens change recent?
[22:03] <drecute> does sudo postconf -e 'home_mailbox = Maildir/' mean that Maildir is chosen as default mailbox format or it just specifies a directory?
[22:03] <Striking7> finish06: PinguyOS is Gnome2, much more what you're probably used it.
[22:03] <Striking7> *used to
[22:03] <bc``> hi
[22:03] <Bennlucky7> noeltorious: i think its ur another drive beside file system from ubuntu and windows
[22:04] <bc``> i have a 2tb drive and i want to copy all of its contents to a new 3tb drive
[22:04] <bc``> is "cp" the best way to do that?
[22:04] <semitones_tea> probably dd would be better
[22:04] <semitones_tea> idk
[22:04] <drecute> does sudo postconf -e 'home_mailbox = Maildir/' mean that Maildir is chosen as default mailbox format or it just specifies a directory?
[22:04] <InferiorHumanOrg> bc``: cp or rsync will be fine
[22:04] <xlREDlx> jschall http://paste.ubuntu.com/948367/
[22:04] <simonpe^^> I just did a very silly thing. A google calendar based task scheduler. Provide me with some use cases please! http://simonslinuxworld.blogspot.se/2012/04/google-command-line-tools-google.html
[22:05] <hayden_ru> So, nvidia drivers still do this http://i.imgur.com/HQWXU.png with two monitors? Any way to fix it?
[22:05] <jeanpaul_> hey
[22:05] <samster34_> chelz: it's ubuntu-12.04-alternate-amd64.iso
[22:05] <ox1de> got the message: This kernel requires the following features not present on the cpu: pae -- unable to boot-pleas use a kernel appropriate for your cpu.
[22:05] <chelz> samster34_: right hm
[22:05] <ox1de> what do i do?
[22:05] <bc``> ty InferiorHumanOrg
[22:05] <schultza> ah.. disabled those... but still not get a distro update notification
[22:05] <jschall> xlREDlx: oh, so this is for any package you try to install?
[22:06] <noeltorious> Bennlucky7, semitones_tea weird I hit alt and printscrn to take a screenshot and the labels popped up, the first in ntfs and the 2nd is ubuntu (=
[22:06] <xlREDlx> yea
[22:06] <bc``> is there a way to check on the 'status' of "cp" once i begin the execution??
[22:06] <chelz> samster34_: make sure any ethernet cords and stuff are unplugged
[22:06] <jschall> xlREDlx: you didn't include the output i asked for but never mind
[22:06] <xlREDlx> jschall I got it when I tried to install it now it pops up every time I install some thing
[22:06] <xlREDlx> I did
[22:06] <InferiorHumanOrg> bc``:  you can use cp -v for verbose so it will keep progress
[22:06] <chelz> samster34_: also try skipping the "download installer components" part when you get to it
[22:06] <saimon777> InferiorHumanOrg: what if i set my music dir readable & writable by others?
[22:06] <xlREDlx> unable to locate thingy
[22:06] <jeanpaul_> o fish
[22:07] <jschall> xlREDlx: have you seen this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/121226/how-to-completely-remove-a-oracle-jdk-that-didnt-install-properly
[22:07] <bc``> thanks InferiorHumanOrg!!!
[22:07] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: I believe that would work also as long as the mpd user which is "mpd" by default can read the files
[22:07] <samster34_> chelz: I can't skip it. the only steps afte it I can skip to are "launch shell" or "abort the install"
[22:07] <xlREDlx> nope il check it out then come back
[22:07] <ox1de> im making progress
[22:07] <sun_devil> chelz, can I ask you a question?
[22:07] <chelz> sun_devil: sure
[22:08] <chelz> samster34_: what happens if you try to load installer components then?
[22:08] <samster34_> chelz: nothing, because  have no network connetion
[22:08] <saimon777> InferiorHumanOrg: how to do that? from gnome properties won't let me change permissions, even as root
[22:08] <schultza> is 12.04 available yet?
[22:08] <saimon777> yep
[22:08] <Bennlucky7> noeltorious: do u remember the size of drive that is being used?
[22:09] <sun_devil> chelz, you sound busy, I did a cd /media and it only shows a floppy drive, when all I have is a cdrom, but the cdrom does not show up?
[22:09] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: from command line. sudo chmod 755 /path/folder
[22:09] <schultza> i keep checking for updates and i dont see the distro update button yet
[22:09] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: maybe chmod -r it might be -R for recursive
[22:09] <semitones_tea> schultza: try checking your software sources
[22:09] <schultza> which ones?
[22:09] <semitones_tea> "software sources"
[22:09] <saimon777> what means recursive?
[22:09] <schultza> they are all checked, cept the ppa's that are failing the gpg key check
[22:10] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: applying to all subfolders / files of the parent dir = recursive
[22:10] <pmp6nl> Dang, I just downloaded 12.04 at 4.9 Mega Bytes Per Second... server is doing good
[22:10] <semitones_tea> there's a setting that says "alert me about distribution updates when ___"
[22:10] <semitones_tea> you have to make sure it doesn't say never
[22:10] <schultza> set to LTS only
[22:10] <chelz> sun_devil: cdrom stuff won't show up unless you insert a cd
[22:10] <semitones_tea> try setting it to everything
[22:10] <ox1de> OK i got the boot menu
[22:10] <samster34_> darn you and you superior ISP
[22:10] <ox1de> with install options
[22:10] <ox1de> so i'm making progress
[22:10] <chelz> samster34_: is this a laptop or desktop?
[22:11] <samster34_> chelz: I'm typing on a laptop, i you are wonering abou my horrible speling
[22:11] <pmp6nl> samster34_, it was pretty slick ;)
[22:11] <samster34_> chelz: but I'm installing on a dektop
[22:11] <xlREDlx> THANKS jschall it worked :D thank you so much
[22:12] <finish06> Striking7, I was able to put the unity luancher bar on a single monitor... just use CCSM and then go under "ubuntu unity plugin" -> Experimental -> very bottom of the page "launcher monitors" ... change it to primary desktop ... set primary desktop via Nvidia X Server Settings....
[22:12] <xlREDlx> Im book marking that for any future things I bugger up
[22:12] <chelz> samster34_: you leave the disk in right? since it might be saying "load installer components from cd"
[22:13] <Striking7> finish06: I'm glad to hear there's a way. Not surprised it's in CCSM, not something installed by default
[22:13] <Striking7> :)
[22:13] <dim3dro1> Could you help me with cyrillic logins (console)?
[22:13] <samster34_> chelz: yes, Im booting from us
[22:13] <samster34_> *usb
[22:13] <finish06> Striking7, yep :/  very unfortunate .... but it is all good now!!!  Just took me a while of sittign on it, and thinking to myself... HOW did I do that last time lol
[22:13] <chelz> samster34_: you used unetbootin to put it on the usb?
[22:14] <NightFantom> testing
[22:14] <NightFantom> ok
[22:14] <Striking7> finish06: I'm loyal to Ubuntu but that doesn't mean I like where they're going UI-wise for myself.
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> Striking7: then use XFCE, or KDE....
[22:14] <samster34_> chelz:yes
[22:14] <Athanasius> The livecd doesn't appear to allow me to add keyboard layouts while in the "Try Ubuntu" mode :<
[22:14] <chelz> Striking7: yeah xubuntu is awesome
[22:14] <schultza> going from lts to everything helped.. thanks
[22:14] <ox1de> got the message: This kernel requires the following features not present on the cpu: pae -- unable to boot-pleas use a kernel appropriate for your cpu.
[22:14] <ox1de> got the cd to boot but says that
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> Striking7: Unity is only in ONE of the 4 official variants....
[22:14] <ox1de> trying to install now
[22:14] <Striking7> ActionParsnip: both good alternatives I agree. For now I'm sticking with Gnome2 though
[22:14] <ox1de> what do i do?
[22:14] <finish06> Striking7, I think it is a good move, however it is just a slow move.  It isn't polished as I woudl like
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> Striking7: Gnome2 is dead
[22:15] <pmp6nl> Whats the best way to seed the 12.04 torrent?
[22:15] <finish06> ActionParsnip, what are the four 'official' variants?
[22:15] <schultza> what? "Upgrading to a no longer supported version"... ????
[22:15] <Athanasius> ox1de: Are you using ancient CPUs? :<
[22:15] <chelz> samster34_: well could be a bug if the installer thinks you have an internet connection when you don't. i'd verify stuff like ethernet cables are unplugged, there might be some shell thing you can run
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> finish06: Ubuntu, Lubuntu, xubuntu, KUbuntu
[22:15] <chelz> samster34_: something like ifdown eth0
[22:15] <ox1de> its an older machine i guess
[22:15] <finish06> ActionParsnip, I was under the impression that Ubuntu and Kubuntu were oficial and they recently stated they were done with kubuntu
[22:15] <ox1de> still functional though
[22:15] <Striking7> ActionParsnip: that's both the strength and weakness of open source stuff: nothing is ever truly dead
[22:15] <schultza> 10.10 ? hang on.. switching back to lts only
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> Striking7: true but the Gnome2 forks are not suported here
[22:16] <chelz> finish06: the most 'official' is ubuntu. the other distros are given free stuff like hosting and other resources. the 'quitting' of kubuntu was canonical no longer hiring a kubuntu dev
[22:16] <saimon777> InferiorHumanOrg: tried sudo chmod 777 from terminal, command seem successful, no errors but permissions never changed. it's a ntfs drive does it mean something?
[22:16] <finish06> chelz, so they are only 'official'
[22:16] <samster34_> chelz: somethin must have goe wrong. I re-"burned" the flash drive, an d now I dont have haf of the options in the initial meu
[22:16] <schultza> kubuntu is being picked up by another financial group
[22:16] <Athanasius> kubuntu and the kde project in its entirety needs to die :/
[22:16] <jwrigley> 12.04 is buggy... in the 10 mins I've had it installed, I have already been prompted 3 times to submit 3 different bugs. ....
[22:16] <finish06> chelz, because canonical will host for them... kk thanks
[22:17] <ActionParsnip>  saimon777 you need to set the access at mount with NTFS
[22:17] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: oh yea, you are going to need to edit /etc/fstab then I think
[22:17] <Striking7> I know that, ActionParsnip.  And I'm ok with that. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, just voicing my opinion.
[22:17] <chelz> finish06: yeah and link to them
[22:17] <trism> ox1de: 12.04 uses the pae kernel by default, I believe the xubuntu isos use the non-pae kernel if you wanted to try that though
[22:17] <Achylles> I 've just downloaded Precise pangolin live cd, but when I fire it up it says that I my internet cable is disconnect and do not connect to the internet. I tried to add ip,gw,dns, but the save configuration button is grey out so I am blocked. suggestions?
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> jwrigley: its less than 1 day old, what did you expect
[22:17] <chelz> samster34_: you might use gparted to wipe partitions on the drive. also could try a burned cd
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> Achylles: just get the OS installed, worry about the web later
[22:17] <finish06> chelz, ok.  well i guess I will say that is pseudo-official :)  part of the reason I do like ubuntu is that it is backed by a billionaire lol
[22:17] <sk1special> mmk. chello. how do i fix this Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".
[22:18] <Striking7> jwrigley: Anything specific we may be able to help with?
[22:18] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: /media/sdcard vfat defaults,user something like tha
[22:18] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: adjust for ntfs etc
[22:18] <ox1de> what is the difference between xubuntu and ubuntu? is there anyway to load another kernel?
[22:18] <sun_devil> chelz, Inserted a music cd  and did a cd /media....not their.  A few months back I tried to install Vitualbox from a cd and did not recognize it then also
[22:18] <jwrigley> ActionParsnip: Not complaining, just saying... Though to answer your question: it's a _release_, not an alpha or beta, so I would expect it to not be that buggy... :)
[22:18] <Achylles> ActionParsnip, But, what if I install it to my HD and does not detect the network through DHCP?
[22:19] <Striking7> ox1de: The difference between xubuntu and ubuntu is the user interface/desktop environment.
[22:19] <Striking7> They both should be using the same kernel
[22:19] <saimon777> InferiorHumanOrg this rustle my jimmies, i think that change that user "mpd" to my account name then reboot & see what happen
[22:19] <Striking7> There are many ways of using different kernels though
[22:19] <Striking7> What in specific would you like to be different?
[22:19] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: idk I think you need to set the user flag in /etc/fstab
[22:19] <saimon777> ok
[22:19] <jwrigley> Striking7: sorry, no, was just setting up my favourite IRC-client with my favourite channels :)
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> ox1de: ubuntu uses Unity+Gnome+Compiz by default. Xubuntu uses lighter apps, xfce and xfwm4 as the WM
[22:20] <saimon777> itś an usb drive
[22:20] <Achylles> ActionParsnip, when I use other live distros they detect the network, but ubuntu live does not :(
[22:20] <ox1de> is xubuntu the only option?
[22:20] <chelz> sun_devil: you can check the status of stuff like that in the logfiles. /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog
[22:20] <sun_devil> Although when I put in a cd, a box came up asking what I wanted to do with it, but command line option does not work
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> Achylles: then you have a bug and will need to do a little legwork
[22:20] <Striking7> jwrigley: K. Let me know if you need help troubleshooting any of that stuff or need a sounding board.
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> ox1de: or Kubuntu, using kde
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> ox1de: or Lubuntu, using LXDE
[22:20] <bc``> InferiorHumanOrg: "cp" doesn't have a -v parameter that I  can figure out how to use-- any other suggestions, or do i have the syntax wrong?
[22:20] <sun_devil> chelz, what would I look for in a log file for media?
[22:20] <Striking7> I'm still using an 11.04 derivative so I can't help from personal experience, but I'm willing to help with anything I can!
[22:20] <samster34_> chelz: no, Imean something must have gone wrong the first time, setup is runnin now
[22:20] <ox1de> is there a way to load ubuntu12? from this screen?
[22:21] <ox1de> or do i need a new iso?
[22:21] <new_ubuntu> i have install backtrack on a partition for dual boot with win 7. i'm downloading ubunt at the moment...when i try to install it would it reconize the partition that backtrack is installed? my hard disk is 300 gb 100 gb for win7 100 gb for saving staff and 100 for backtrack..so in the 3rd partition will be reconizes as linux system and install on it?
[22:21] <chelz> sun_devil: stuff related to 'scd"
[22:21] <Achylles> ActionParsnip,  It really seam a bug
[22:21] <chelz> samster34_: oh, nice. good to hear
[22:21] <Striking7> ox1de: What OS are you running now?
[22:21] <sun_devil> chelz, I will give it a try, thanks
[22:21] <InferiorHumanOrg> bc``: cp -v /old/folder /new/folder
[22:21] <Achylles> ActionParsnip, I think I will wait for the final version. Perhaps the Devs correct this bug
[22:22] <InferiorHumanOrg> bc``: cp -vr /old/folder /new/folder
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> Achylles: 12.04 is officially released....
[22:22] <jwrigley> Striking7: thanks :)
[22:22] <ox1de> it WAS ubuntu10.. now i loaded the ubuntu12 iso and got to the install menu but it says: this kernel requires the following features not present on the cpu: pae -- unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your cpu
[22:23] <ox1de> when i select install
[22:23] <Achylles> ActionParsnip, today I downloaded beta2 in the morning. Where is the final release then?
[22:23] <agnul> care to help fixing a broken update? after upgrading to 12.04 system wont boot with grub complaining about "no such partition"...
[22:23] <whoever_> samba ? anyone, how do i prevent file execution from server
[22:23] <bc``> InferiorHumanOrg when i do that, i get this: media@xbmc:~/media/tv$ cp -v "30 Rock" "/home/media/media/videos/30 Rock"
[22:23] <bc``> cp: omitting directory `30 Rock'
[22:24] <agnul> (partitions are there, and I can read using a rescue cd)
[22:24] <InferiorHumanOrg> bc``: are you using " in the command? you don't need those
[22:24] <InferiorHumanOrg> bc``: also use cp -vr
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> Achylles: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/
[22:24] <i9c> hey guys how do you install other themes on ubuntu 12/
[22:24] <i9c> ?
[22:25] <magma> almost 2k users
[22:25] <Striking7> ox1de: Uh oh.  I don't know if the 12 CD ships with alternative kernels.
[22:25] <InferiorHumanOrg> bc``: np
[22:25] <Striking7> I wouldn't be surprised if it did ship with alternatives though
[22:26] <ox1de> what should i do?
[22:26] <Athanasius> schultza: Crap, do you? My MBP is on 10.04LTS
[22:26] <new_ubuntu> schultza why to do that?
[22:26] <Striking7> ox1de: I don't know your experience level, so let me know if I need to clarify stuff
[22:26] <Striking7> Do you get a grub menu at boot time?
[22:26] <schultza> i couldnt get tyhe distro upgrade to say 12.04 after going to everything then back to lts only
[22:26] <schultza> it stayedc on 10.10
[22:26] <ox1de> i can get grub by holding shift
[22:27] <Striking7> Ok. Do you have any alternative kernels to boot from?
[22:27] <ox1de> i'm not clear on what kernels are
[22:27] <jpic> hi all, what's the command to enable/disable connections ?
[22:27] <Striking7> Ok
[22:27] <Striking7> ox1de: If your computer is a car, the kernel is the software's "engine"
[22:28] <schultza> ifconfig [connection] up/down
[22:28] <Striking7> It makes sure all your programs know how to talk to the hardware.
[22:28] <new_ubuntu> for simple questions you can always ask google. he knows anything
[22:28] <saimon777> InferiorHumanOrg i commented that "user" line in mpd.conf & now seems working fine
[22:28] <Striking7> PAE is a feature on newerish CPUs that will allow you to access 4gigs+ of ram.
[22:28] <InferiorHumanOrg> saimon777: oh ok. thats cool!
[22:28] <jpic> schultza: thanks, actually i'm looking for the command to control the network manager from a simple bash script
[22:29] <saimon777> now itś pulse audio the problem
[22:29] <jpic> not enabling/disabling interfaces
[22:29] <Striking7> ox1de: If you have a list of kernels available to you in grub, choose the oldest. See if there are some that have -pae at the end of the name and others that don't.
[22:29] <ox1de> ok
[22:29] <ox1de> ill load grub
[22:29] <saimon777> can't hear a flying tusk
[22:29] <Klikini> how do I check if I have 12.04 beta or 12.04 released?
[22:29] <escott> jpic, nmcli
[22:30] <jpic> brilliant, thanks
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> ox1de: http://askubuntu.com/questions/117744/cannot-install-due-to-the-error-kernel-requires-features-not-present-on-the-cpu   says install Lubuntu or Xubuntu and then install the ubuntu-desktop if you still want gnome. I'd use the lighter distros to give you a more responsive OS
[22:30] <schultza> lsb_release -a?
[22:30] <sun_devil> chelz, I can play it on rhythembox, but cant see it by command line.  Looked at syslog and messages and it does not see it as a problem?
[22:30] <ox1de> i'm downloading xubuntu12.04.. will that work?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Klikini: are you fully updated?
[22:30] <ox1de> i'll burn the iso
[22:30] <Klikini> yes.
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> ox1de: should do
[22:30] <Ibyss> Is there an upto date full encrypted drive tutorial for ubuntu 12.04 install>
[22:30] <ox1de> ok i'll give it a shot
[22:30] <Striking7> ox1de: Most likely it has the same kernel as normal Ubuntu12
[22:30] <Bennlucky7> Klikini: go to system and go to details
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Klikini: then its the full release
[22:30] <Klikini> I never updated but update manager reports nothing
[22:31] <Striking7> Think different car, same engine
[22:31] <samster34> ok, so I moved the finished install to the other computer, trying to boot into recovery mode, I get to the shell, and again, my keyboard doesn't work so I can't do anything.....
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> Klikini: your OS has the same package versions as the released OS
[22:31] <Klikini> in details.... do what?
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> Klikini: nothing, you have the new release, you upgraded seamlessly into it
[22:32] <Bennlucky7> Klikini: if there is no beta in ur logo then it fill realease
[22:32] <Klikini> good
[22:32] <Klikini> thanks!
[22:32] <ox1de> there is no mention of pae in teh grub menu
[22:32] <Klikini> Quantal is available in beta? "(05:30:12 PM) Logan_ left the room (quit: Quit: Rebooting into Quantal. :-))."
[22:32] <Striking7> ox1de:
[22:33] <Striking7> ox1de: ok. I'm doing some googling for you real fast.
[22:33] <Bennlucky7> lol
[22:33] <Logan_> Klikini: If you come into #ubuntu+1, I'll explain. :-)
[22:33] <Klikini> okay
[22:33] <i9c> how do I install an old theme on ubuntu 12.04?
[22:33] <sintrinsic> Hey guys. Using a console irc client for the first time. Is this readable?
[22:33] <Striking7> ox1de: http://www.bestubuntu.com/non-pae-kernel-wont-be-dropped-in-12-04-lts.html
[22:33] <airlynx> I recently installed 12.04 on my Toshiba Satellite A205, and when I plug in my USB headset XFCE closes to a terminal screen, last message is Stopping System V runlevel, I don't get any crash reports in /var/crash, can anyone help me figure out what is causing it to crash so that I can either fix it or submit a bug report?
[22:33] <Striking7> sintrinsic: Yes.
[22:33] <Waraudon> I'm assuming that it's not possible to upgrade from 11.04->12.04 (server edition), would the recommended option be to do a fresh install, or to go 11.04->11.10->12.04 ?
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> airlynx: what if you boot with it plugged in?
[22:34] <dlentz> airlynx, when you get kicked to the terminal, look at dmesg and ~/.xsession-errors
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Waraudon: you cannot go from Natty to Precise in one bound. You will need to do one of the other 2 options.
[22:34] <sintrinsic> Awesome. I just upgraded from 11.04 to 12.? and it's now telling me it cant detect my display/input settings, and kicks me to a tty prompt. Any ideas on how to fix?
[22:34] <Logan_> Waraudon: Backing up and then doing a fresh install is always a more recommended option.
[22:34] <airlynx> ActionParsnip, it will show the boot splash then kick me to TTY1
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Waraudon: I'd go for a clean install of Precise, clean OS a intended with 5 years support
[22:35] <HaiKaiDo> in 12.04 is it still just unity? I still like Rosey. would it be hard to downgrade?
[22:35] <Waraudon> ActionParsnip: I think I might just do a fresh install, it's a home gateway/server box that's also used for file backups. However, the backups are on a separate partition so I don't have to worry about that
[22:35] <bastidrazor> I upgraded from 11.10 and it appears to be doing well.
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> airlynx: are you connecting it to  a USB hub or direct to the system?
[22:35] <Striking7> sintrinsic: what kind of hardware do you have?
[22:35] <jpic> when i configured the 3G connection, Ubuntu asked for the pin code. After entering the pin code, checking "Remember the pin code" checkbox, and clicking OK, it works. The problem is that NetworkManager still pops up the dialog for the pin code - even thought it *does* enable the 3G connection properly which means that it used the pin code
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> jpic: are there any bugs reported?
[22:36] <sintrinsic> input devices are just usb keyboard/mouse. Displays are 2 dell monitors, and graphics card is radeon hd 9800 i believe
[22:36] <jpic> i mean that now, Ubuntu asks for the pin, i close the window without entering the pin - which i forgot, trashed - and it works
[22:36] <airlynx> ActionParsnip, I've tried both, same results
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> airlynx: have you tried setting the USB ports to legacy in BIOS?
[22:36] <Striking7> ox1de:  check it out!!! http://askubuntu.com/questions/122841/why-is-12-04-using-a-pae-dependent-kernel-by-default
[22:36] <schultza> grr... i should jsut download the lts disk... thanks guys
[22:36] <airlynx> ActionParsnip, I have not, I'll add that to my list of things to try
[22:36] <Striking7> ox1de: scroll most of the way down
[22:37] <Striking7> You'll see it say that Lubuntu and Xubuntu both have non-pae kernels by default
[22:37] <Striking7> ox1de: so you were right!
[22:37] <heph> how do i get the gpg key id for a ppa i've already added?
[22:37] <Striking7> Download xubuntu and boot off that, you're probably goldten.
[22:37] <beandog> gpg --list-keys
[22:37] <Striking7> golden, even.
[22:37] <heph> beandog: thanks
[22:37] <schultza> 64 bit linux still not ready?
[22:37] <beandog> I think
[22:37] <Striking7> sintrinsic: the ATI card is probably your problem.
[22:37] <jpic> ActionParsnip: apparently https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/704123 but the last comment is "How can I fix this problem on Ubuntu 11.04 (gnome desktop) without upgrading to 12.04 ?
[22:38] <heph> hm, not quite
[22:38] <jpic> wait, i did upgrade, so it should be fixed, but it's not ...
[22:38] <sintrinsic> Striking7: How would I fix it. All I know is that it says it can't find display :0
[22:38] <HaiKaiDo> is it hard in 12.04 to switch from unity to gnome 2?
[22:38] <scwizard> in xubuntu, I hid everything in the notification area. How can I bring up the notification area's properties dialog so that I can unhide things?
[22:38] <heph> beandog: ah, apt-key list =]
[22:39] <beandog> heph: oh nice even better
[22:39] <samster34> I tried a different keyboard, but this one also doesn't work in the recovery mode / shell boot option....is there any way to boot without the nouveau drivers, but not into the shell?
[22:39] <Striking7> sintrinsic: I feel your pain. ATI cards are hard to get working in Linux. Also, I believe I remember someone saying earlier that the proprietary ATI drivers aren't shipped by default with Ubuntu12. Don't quote me on that.
[22:39] <ox1de> OK striking7; i'll load a xubuntu12 iso and see if that will load proper
[22:39] <jpic> how to check network manager version ?
[22:39] <airlynx> dmesg doesn't show anything when I plug the USB headset in
[22:39] <Striking7> sintrinsic: There is a default driver that you can use just to get your graphical environment up and running but its performance is bad, so just use it to troubleshoot and get the real drivers working
[22:40] <Striking7> Look up the "Framebuffer" driver
[22:40] <beandog> NetworkManager --version
[22:40]  * jpic is sorry, real noob
[22:40] <Striking7> ox1de: I hope it works. It looks like it will from the research I did
[22:40] <samster34> striking: how do I get that running?
[22:40] <sintrinsic> Striking7: Would you happen to know the package name? Tough to google in console browsers.
[22:40] <Striking7> sintrinsic: I don't, but I'll look!
[22:40] <alien64> vesa
[22:40] <sintrinsic> Striking7: you're my hero.
[22:40] <jpic> thanks, it reports <IP_ADDRESS>, so that *should* contain the fix that has claimed to be introduced in 0.9.2
[22:40]  * Striking7 bows
[22:41] <samster34> alien64: how do I change the boot options in grub so that ubuntu will start to the desktop with vesa drivers? if I use nomodeset to get to the shell, my keyboard doesnt work. no matter which keyboard I try.
[22:42] <samster34> and without keyboard, I can't tell it to do anything :/
[22:42] <zenmaster> clear
[22:42] <zenmaster> Worong window. :)
[22:42] <zenmaster> Hi! Anyways.
[22:42] <beandog> heh
[22:42] <airlynx> after it crashes I can type lsusb and see that it did in fact recognize the device as plantronics
[22:42]  * beandog gives zenmaster a cookie
[22:42] <NurseDad> can someone tell me where/how to get ubuntu tweak
[22:43] <sun_devil> Question, is normal for a sys not to recoginize a drive?
[22:43] <Noko_> Hi there ;-) I have this  entry in my grub boot menu "Found linux image: /boot/bzImage-<IP_ADDRESS>-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64" Has anyone a solution how i can get rid of this entry? Thank you
[22:43] <airlynx> .xsession-errors is not timestamped, so I'm not entirely sure where the problem starts
[22:43] <gr4mm4r> hello, i cannot find skype after i minimize it, running it from /home just starts another instance of it, and thats not hwat im looking for, anyone else have this issue?
[22:43] <melvster> hi all any way to hide the sidebar in precise?
[22:44] <Striking7> btw sintrinsic: if you want to do your own research while I'm looking, there's a text-mode browser named lynx
[22:44] <Striking7> "q" quits, "g" (stands for "go") will let you enter a url to go ot
[22:45] <Striking7> to
[22:45] <jpic> how to know in a script if "Enable wireless" is checked in nmapplet ?
[22:45] <Striking7> and the right arrow key "clicks" a link. Back arrow goes back
[22:45] <zenmaster> Hi, I need apache to log more so I can see why it is not starting. :)
[22:46] <zenmaster> How does one go about doing that? :D
[22:46] <jpic> nvm, nmcli nm
[22:46] <alien64> sintrinsic: change to vesa in xorg.conf is my guess
[22:47] <diegoviola> why would you use vesa?
[22:47] <diegoviola> simplexi1: what card do you have?
[22:47] <Striking7> sintrinsic: alien64's suggestion is probably a good start. Do you know how to do that?
[22:48] <diegoviola> oops
[22:48] <diegoviola> sintrinsic: what card do you have?
[22:48] <Lint> what should I do to enable gnome-shell in Precise? I installed gnome-shell package but it segfaults
[22:48] <Lint> also, is it possible to use the Gnome Network Manager in precise?
[22:48] <Striking7> diegoviola: he has a radeon 9800 HD
[22:48] <marti> ciao
[22:48] <diegoviola> Striking7: why not use the radeon driver then?
[22:48] <marti> atutti
[22:48] <ox1de> btw... the link for xubuntu PC desktop CD says 404 not found
[22:49] <sintrinsic> strinking7: afraid not. sry. was in another tty
[22:49] <ox1de> so i went with the alternate
[22:49] <airlynx> I moved the .xsession-errors file to .xsessions-backup, then plugged in my USB headset, then tried to view the .xsession-errors file again but there was nothing there
[22:49] <ox1de> will teh alternate work ok?
[22:49] <Striking7> diegoviola: I was just suggesting the most failsafe thing as a start.
[22:49] <marti> !lista
[22:49] <dagadagadaga> is anyone suffering from very slow installation from usb?
[22:49] <Striking7> diegoviola: most likely the radeon driver works best long term.
[22:49] <Striking7> ox1de: Yes it will.
[22:49] <Striking7> ox1de: the only difference is that the installer is text-mode for alternate.
[22:49] <samster34> help, is there a way to boot ubuntu, so that X will start but it will not use the nouveau driver?
[22:49] <diegoviola> Striking7: using the radeon driver is a good idea because it does support KMS (kernel mode setting) which happens to detect the resolution for you automatically so then xorg.conf is not needed anymore.
[22:49] <ox1de> text mode?
[22:50] <Striking7> ox1de: the normal liveCD puts you in a graphical environment
[22:50] <samster34> ox1de: my keyboard doesnt work in text mode, so that doesnt help :(
[22:50] <ox1de> u sure it will work?
[22:50] <progre55> hi guys. I have an encrypted /home partition, but it doesnt mount automatically on logon. I have to manually mount it from tty before I can login. Any suggestions, please?
[22:50] <Striking7> ox1de:  yeah. Not a big deal - it's just not "pretty" when it's in the installer
[22:50] <ox1de> isee
[22:50] <Striking7> Yeah, it installs the same thing.
[22:51] <Striking7> It just doesn't look as pretty while it's doing so
[22:51] <alien64> diegoviola: he should use the radeon driver in the repo not the propritery ones
[22:51] <marti> !lista
[22:51] <diegoviola> sintrinsic: use the radeon driver
[22:51] <Striking7> diegoviola: You're right.
[22:51] <Lint> also it has an expert mode
[22:51] <samster34> help, is there a way to boot ubuntu, so that X will start but it will not use the nouveau driver?
[22:51] <diegoviola> alien64: sure
[22:51] <Striking7> diegoviola: do you think you could help sintrinsic through that process? It's been a while since I had an ATI card
[22:51] <Striking7> ... I used the proprietary drivers when I did, too.
[22:51] <diegoviola> Striking7: sure
[22:51] <airlynx> Off to try ActionParsnip's suggestion, setting USB to legacy mode in BIOS, wish me luck
[22:51] <Striking7> That was... 2005 I think :-p
[22:52] <diegoviola> sintrinsic: you just need to install xf86-video-ati or xf86-video-radeon
[22:52] <diegoviola> sintrinsic: that will hopefully pull the other dependencies
[22:52] <diegoviola> like the kernel drivers, etc
[22:52] <alien64> tri ati first")
[22:52] <sintrinsic> diegoviola: awesome. trying that now. brb
[22:53] <diegoviola> sintrinsic: then you don't need to do anything with the xorg.conf anymore. Actually, xorg.conf is not needed anymore if you have a KMS driver.
[22:53] <Striking7> samster34: why doesn't your keyboard work in text mode?
[22:53] <Striking7> Is it a usb keyboard?
[22:53] <sarnold> The most recent Firefox update to 12.0+build1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> broke the ^W, ^U, keybindings in text edit widgets. Does anyone know what to edit to bring back their old behavior (kill word, kill line)?
[22:53] <diegoviola> sintrinsic: sure, let us know if you need more help.
[22:53] <sw0rdfish> hey guys, what desktop environment does ubuntu 12.04 have?
[22:53] <Riddell> sw0rdfish: unity
[22:53] <Arthur_D> unity
[22:53] <sw0rdfish> and 12.10?
[22:53] <sw0rdfish> also unity?
[22:54] <Arthur_D> probably the same
[22:54] <Riddell> 12.10 doesn't exist yet
[22:54] <marti> ciao
[22:54] <sw0rdfish> Arthur_D, don't ya have 12.10
[22:54] <marti> !lista
[22:54] <sw0rdfish> oh rlly Riddell.
[22:54] <Striking7> sw0rdfish: Most likely. Unity is still pretty young - it'll probably be much better when October rolls around than it is now (it's not terrible now, but not perfect)
[22:54] <samster34> Striking7: I don't know why. It says "unable to enumerate USB device on port 8"
[22:54] <Arthur_D> sw0rdfish: 12.04 is the latest version
[22:54] <sk1special> is there a way to reset/reinstall gnome-settings-daemon?
[22:54] <sw0rdfish> I dunno Riddell man I was with 10.10 till before yesterday man... but updates stopped so I was like "BuMMeR!"
[22:54] <Striking7> samster34: Sounds like something a bios setting can fix
[22:54] <samster34> Striking7: I've tried different keyboards, different ports, there are no other USB devices...
[22:55] <Striking7> samster34: Look through your bios for a setting called "emulate legacy usb keyboard"
[22:55] <samster34> Striking7: the only bios setting that relates is "Support keyboard and mouse ONLY", does that sound like a wordy way to describe the legacy support setting?
[22:55] <Striking7> samster34: Doesn't sound like it to me :(
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> Striking7: young, it's been around since Natty...
[22:57] <Arthur_D> for software as complex as a desktop environment, that's pretty young
[22:57] <samster34> Striking7: well, I have no other settings relating to usb or keyboards
[22:57] <sw0rdfish> lol why did the OS freak out when I typed unity into a terminal.
[22:57] <Striking7> ActionParsnip: It has. And that is very young compared to Gnome, KDE, and even things like Enlightenment.
[22:57] <samster34> except choosing 1.1+2.0 or 1.1
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> Arthur_D: unity isn't a DE
[22:57] <airlynx> changing BIOS settings had no effect, my system still crashes when I plug in my USB headset, nothing in dmesg, nothing in .xsession-errors, does anybody else have any ideas as to why it would do this?
[22:57] <gr4mm4r> anyone not able to restore skype in 12.04 after its minimized?
[22:57] <alien64> young and sucky :)
[22:58] <Striking7> samster34: shoot. Ok. There's probably a safe graphics mode option for Ubuntu's boot.
[22:58] <Striking7> I'll look around real quick.
[22:58] <samster34> Striking7: is there a way to boot into X without nouveau drivers, instead of booting to textmode?
[22:58] <Arthur_D> ActionParsnip: still, it requires heavy integration with Gnome and other software, so it does take a while for things to settle
[22:58] <samster34> Striking7: ok, how do I find this option :P
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> Arthur_D: i guess, but it's not as young as HUD etc
[22:58] <Arthur_D> ofc
[22:59] <Striking7> samster34: I'm looking that up right now.
[22:59] <samster34> "usb 1-8: device not accepting addres 2, error -110"
[23:00] <samster34> same with address 3, 4, 5, then it says unable to enumerate device.
[23:00] <Dustyred> http://imgur.com/0lxiZ
[23:00] <Striking7> samster34: Do you have a lot of usb devices plugged in?
[23:00] <sw0rdfish> hmmmm what can I do in tty2 to restart the GUI session of tty7?
[23:00] <bruker> hey
[23:00] <samster34> Striking7: nothing except the keyboard.
[23:01] <bobweaver> !gnome >bobweaver
[23:01] <alien64> samster34: is your bios setting irq's or software?
[23:01] <samster34> alien64: ?
[23:01] <sarnold> sw0rdfish: probably "sudo killall X" would do the job.
[23:01] <Striking7> Huh. I've seen a similar error a few times, but that was on some custom hardware that had really low maximum current on usb powered devices.
[23:01] <samster34> alien64: there are options for the IRQs...they are set to auto
[23:01] <Birdything> This link appears to be dead: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/precise/release/ubuntu-12.04-dvd-amd64.iso
[23:02] <Birdything> -.-
[23:02] <sw0rdfish> is that ok to do sarnold?  I know I can run commands from skype, but I don't know what command to use.
[23:05] <samster34> alien64: I don't see one for USB
[23:05] <airlynx> can I run apport from tty1 to capture a crash that happens on tty7?
[23:05] <whoever_> Tinti: yes, but i am trin' to scan directly from ubuntu
[23:05] <Sir_Leto> I want it actually make ubuntu ring my bluetooth headphones.
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> !av | whoever_
[23:05] <sarnold> whoever_: microsoft security essentials is quite nice; bitdefender is my brother's favorite bootable CD. Be aware that you also have to run "antimalware" scanners too, as the AV people have apparently decided that if you decided to install the crap yourself, it's not a virus. :)
[23:06] <halakar> hey guise
[23:06] <alien64> samster34: can u pastbin the one u have and the settings
[23:06] <halakar> i just switched from mageia (kde4) to ubuntu today, because i was sick and tired of my rig being slow.
[23:06] <Fyodorovna> Tinti, http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=91145.0  there is tweak that needs to be done to have it load the updates though.
[23:06] <halakar> i have a few questions - anyone available to answer?
[23:06] <whoever_> sarnold: don't i have to pay for bittdefender
[23:06] <samster34> alien64: pastebin what?
[23:06] <sarnold> whoever_: not their bootable CD, that's free
[23:06] <alien64> those 8 setting in ur bios
[23:07] <dforthman> is the "Get Ubuntu" page erroring for anyone else?
[23:07] <samster34> they are all the same except the number
[23:07] <halakar> is there any kind of tool that i can use to mount another hard drive in a folder, or do i have to use the command line interface?
[23:07] <whoever_> and whoever is controlling ubuntu bot yes i am passing the files to windows
[23:07] <halakar> in settings, i don't see any kind of disk management tool
[23:07] <whoever_> well not directly making them available from the smb server
[23:07] <monotoko> alright people... I need to know if I can trust the QQ Linux client? I have a meeting with a chinese client and they will only use QQ >.>
[23:07] <Striking7> samster34: sorry, so far I've only been able to find solutions that involve using the terminal
[23:07] <Striking7> ><
[23:07] <Fyodorovna> sarnold, whoever_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BitDefender
[23:08] <samster34> alien64 :PCI IRQ line # : Auto Select | Disabled | 5 | 7 | 10| 11 |
[23:08] <samster34> Striking7: darn.
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> whoever_: there are AV solutions listed in the link...
[23:08] <whoever_> sarnold: but the application , i would have to pay for
[23:08] <Striking7> That doesn't mean that's all that there is, just all I've found.
[23:08] <sarnold> Fyodorovna: that's pretty cool, thanks.
[23:08] <SteveBell> actually the shortcut for firefox addons is plain wrong. it says alt + ctrl + a but it actually is ctrrl + shift + a
[23:08] <monotoko> it's all in chinese... but as long as I can navigate my way to chat I should be okay... however I just wanted to know if I can trust it
[23:08] <Striking7> If there's one thing I've learned about Linux, there's a way to do anything.
[23:08] <whoever_> ActionParsnip: what link i may have missed it
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> !av | whoever_
[23:08] <samster34> Striking7: I could attempt moving the disk back to the other computer, installing the nvidia drivers, then moving it to this one? do I need to uninstall the nouveau drivers?
[23:08] <Striking7> Including fly a herd of pygmy elephants into a rainbow.
[23:08] <sarnold> whoever_: maybe? My brother has always been content to run MS Security Essentials on his clients and use BitDefender for when they've broken something :)
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> whoever_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[23:09] <liberal> monotoko: you can't use a segregated VM that will be deleted immediately afterwards?
[23:09] <halakar> uh, is this #windows or #ubuntu ?
[23:09] <liberal> simple solution if you're paranoid about it.
[23:09] <Fyodorovna> sarnold, both avast and bitdefender have free clients, they use the same windows av lists as the windows versions respectively.
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> whoever_: does your IRC client not scroll up?
[23:09] <Striking7> samster34: it'd be wise to blacklist the nouveau drivers if you really don't want to use them.
[23:09] <alien64> samster34: how pastbin lsusb
[23:09] <sinichiro> halakar: #ubuntu .)
[23:09] <whoever_> ActionParsnip: im half blind so i can miss shit
[23:09] <samster34> alien64: what? sorry?
[23:09] <samster34> Striking7: how?
[23:09] <monotoko> liberal, I could but the hardware support isn't so good for a video call... I just don't trust a chinese company in a communist state with root access to my machine...
[23:09] <alien64> samster34: how about pastbin lsusb
[23:10] <Striking7> samster34: to blacklist the drivers, edit "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf"
[23:10] <halakar> sinichiro, then can you help a newbie with a few questions?  with 1700 people in this chan, i'm surprised i can get any help
[23:10] <whoever_> ActionParsnip: but thanks for reposting te link
[23:10] <Striking7> (from the other computer obviously :)
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> whoever_: np :0
[23:10] <sarnold> monotoko: AppArmor profile the stupid thing :)
[23:10] <monotoko> liberal, from what I've heard... it wants root access every time it's run
[23:10] <samster34> alien64: lsusb? what is that?
[23:10] <Striking7> and add a line at the end saying just "nouveau"
[23:10] <soulnafein> wtf is Nouveau driver?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> Striking7: or run:   echo "blacklist nouveau" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf > /dev/null
[23:10] <samster34> foss nvidia driver
[23:10] <monotoko> sarnold, ahhh good plan! Never thought of that :)
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> soulnafein: open source nvidia driver
[23:10] <Striking7> samster34: lsusb is a command that tells you about the usb devices in your system.
[23:11] <sinichiro> halakar:  sure. I'm no expert though
[23:11] <Striking7> ActionParsnip has good advice there, samster34
[23:11] <halakar> well, if you've been using it for more than one day you might be helpful
[23:11] <samster34> Striking7: alien64: I CAN'T TYPE ANYTHING in text mode. I can't run any commands. I can't boot into desktop because of video drivers
[23:11] <sinichiro> halakar: a bit more yeah .)
[23:11] <Striking7> samster34: I know that :)
[23:11] <Striking7> samster34: but you said you could hook the drive up in another computer
[23:11] <samster34> yeah, more directed at alien64 :)
[23:12] <alien64> samster34: not trying to be mean here but google some of this yourself not doing what is asked of you and asking another question will get you no where fast
[23:12] <Striking7> samster34: So you could potentially do it from the other computer, right?
[23:12] <samster34> yea...but how are the USB devices on another computer going to help
[23:12] <soulnafein> ActionParsnip, are they any good or they are good only for the warm fuzzy feeling that open source give?
[23:12] <halakar> sinichiro, my question is how to mount another device (i.e /dev/sdb1) to a folder under my home directory,
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> soulnafein: they run my 6150LE pretty well, but so does the 1295 driver from nvidia
[23:12] <craawl> Is there a best practices guide to repartitioning a disk with an old Ubuntu install to free up space for a 12.04 install and dual-booting (temporarily)?
[23:12] <samster34> alien64: I can't do anything at the moment on the computer having the problems, so I physically CANT run lusb on it
[23:12] <halakar> sinichiro, my previous distro (mageia/mandriva) let me do this via the "control center" they had.  I don't see anything like that with ubuntu.
[23:13] <sarnold> samster34: no ssh? :(
[23:13] <samster34> sarnold: I can't even boot
[23:13] <Hebram> Hello.  I am interested in changing the icons on some folders to a custom icon.   :/ I thought it booted but just never let you type anything. Sorry.
[23:13] <samster34> I can get into text mode, and then I cant type anything
[23:13] <Striking7> samster34: Totally understand. But if you're able to use another computer and mess with the drive hopefully you can modify /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[23:14] <Striking7> samster34: Is that possible?
[23:14] <samster34> Striking7: yeah that's what I'm hoping. just have to log off here again to try....
[23:14] <Striking7> Ok. I may have to go soon though :\
[23:14] <alien64> im done have fun guys
[23:14] <Striking7> Later alien64
[23:14] <samster34> Striking7: ? is what possible? ssh-ing into text mode from another computer?
[23:14] <Striking7> alien64: Thanks for looking for that icon set :)
[23:14] <samster34> no idea.
[23:14] <alien64> still looking:P
[23:14] <eftepede> Hi.
[23:15] <Striking7> SSHing is a likely solution, samster34
[23:15] <Striking7> samster34: You'd have to start your SSH daemon on the computer with the problems though...
[23:15] <halakar> sinichiro, also, i am looking for a way to move the close/minimize/maximize button location to the right instead of the left.
[23:15] <Striking7> which would require console access... which...
[23:15] <alien64> let someone ssh into your box and fix it
[23:15] <Striking7> Well we know the issue there.
[23:15] <samster34> :)
[23:15] <sarnold> are you using init=/bin/sh or does it come up to a login: prompt?
[23:15] <samster34> alien64: gladly, if you can get it to a point where it has network connectivity and ssh running :)
[23:16] <halakar> i mean i don't see jack as far as being able to customize the thing
[23:16] <alien64> lol
[23:16] <eftepede> I've tried my ubuntu-server from 11.10, but since it's OpenVZ guest with 2.18.x on the host, my glibc just broke and I can't finish upgrade.
[23:16] <eftepede> What can I do?
[23:16] <monotoko> sarnold, looks like the last release was in 2009... might have to install Windows to a partition -sighs-
[23:16] <alien64> screw it reinstall that crap
[23:16] <eftepede> Manually change sources back to oneiric and do aptitude update and aptitude upgrade?
[23:16] <samster34> sarnold: so far I used nomodeset to get to the built in shell
[23:16] <Striking7> samster34: If you have another computer handy and are able to move the drive over, awesome.
[23:16] <Striking7> That's your answer.
[23:16] <monotoko> halakar, change your theme
[23:16] <sinichiro> halakar, gconftool -s /apps/met>gconftool -s /apps/met>gconftool -s /apps/metacity/general/button_layout -t string menu:minimize,maximize,close
[23:16] <samster34> Striking7: yeah just writing down where that black list is so I can turn this computer off and get the drive in here :P
[23:17] <Striking7> samster34: If not I know there are answers, but I have to go now :\
[23:17] <monotoko> some other themes have it on the right
[23:17] <samster34> Striking7: thanks for the help
[23:17] <stercor> Is 11.10->12.04 a good move?
[23:17] <sinichiro> halakar, just paste it into terminal
[23:17] <samster34> alien64: this is a fresh install
[23:17] <samster34> oh, you probably didn't mean me.
[23:17] <Striking7> Sure thing samster34. Best of luck.
[23:17] <samster34> brb
[23:17] <pndemc_> what's wrong with ubuntu's servers?
[23:17] <alien64> so fresh it dont work:P
[23:17] <Crowley2> @halakar, sinichiro: Doesn't ubuntu-tweak allow re-ordering of the buttons?
[23:17] <halakar> sinichiro, WTF ?  are you serious?
[23:18] <pndemc_> this distribution upgrade is going at 66.5KB/sec..
[23:18] <sinichiro> halakar, I am. it works
[23:18] <halakar> monotoko,
[23:18] <sinichiro> Crowley2, yeah, it does. But if you don't have tweak installed, this'll do. .)
[23:18] <halakar> hmm
[23:18] <Crowley2> Sure :-)
[23:18] <Hebram> I am interested in changing the icons of a few folders to custom icons.  Can someone please assist me?
[23:18] <sinichiro> halakar, It works only on non-maximized windows though.
[23:18] <halakar> crap
[23:18] <sarnold> sinichiro: I think your line was corrupted, "/apps/met>gconftool" doesn't look right :)
[23:19] <halakar> sinichiro, i did it - it worked - thanks.  hmm
[23:19] <halakar> sorry, i'm coming from the world of KDE
[23:19] <halakar> maybe i'd be more at home with Kubuntu
[23:19] <samster34> re
[23:19] <samster34> on the laptop again
[23:19] <samster34> this time with proper keyboard. I can't type on that thing to save my life
[23:20] <Crowley2> @Hebram: Right-click on folder, options. There You can change the icon of the folder.
[23:20] <Riddell> halakar: I recommend Kubuntu :)
[23:20] <Striking7|away> samster34: I'm headed out soon - PM me if you have any other issues and if I can help I'll PM you back next chance I get.
[23:20] <halakar> sinichiro, thanks for that - but is there no way to customize these sort of things via the gui? what about mounting another drive to a folder i.e /home/user/datafolder
[23:20] <Striking7|away> ox1de: Let me know if Xubuntu fixes things!
[23:20]  * Striking7|away is out
[23:20] <halakar> there's no gui tool for that - it has to be cli  ????
[23:20] <rawfodog> 8 hours to upgrade to the new ubuntu ????
[23:20] <Hebram> Crowley2:  Thank you!  I did not see that option earlier.  I will clean my glasses and look again.
[23:20] <rawfodog> lol
[23:21] <sarnold> halakar: do you want the same drive on the same directory "for all time"? Or do you want it "once in a while"?
[23:21] <Athanasius> What's the difference between OpenOffice and LibreOffice?
[23:21] <halakar> sarnold, well, i want this 1TB volume to always be accessible at /home/username/directory
[23:21] <alien64> open and libre:P
[23:21] <Riddell> Athanasius: quick answer OpenOffice was renamed to LibreOffice
[23:21] <rawfodog> Athanasius, libreoffice doesnt have trojans
[23:21] <prodige94> salut jsuis nouveau sur le chat
 I have the same issue
[23:21] <pndemc_> ubuntu's servers must be getting hammered
[23:22] <bazhang> Athanasius, try in #openoffice.org that is quite extensive to answer here
[23:22] <bazhang> rawfodog, thats enough
[23:22] <rawfodog> pndemc_, yeah. I wonder if I can cancel this download and try tomorrow or something
[23:22] <ThePendulum> How do I display only one notification area?
[23:22] <sarnold> halakar: because it would be easy enough to add the drive's /dev/disk/by-id/ symlink to your /etc/fstab file and have the same drive on the same directory all the time.
[23:22] <Athanasius> lol, alright.
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> Athanasius: http://superuser.com/questions/240647/openoffice-vs-libreoffice-whats-the-difference#240652
[23:22] <prodige94> ya des français ??
[23:22] <sinichiro> halakar, It doesn't have to be cli. You need an external program though. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-tweak/0.7.x/0.7.0/+download/ubuntu-tweak_0.7.0-1~precise4_all.deb
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> !fr
[23:22] <halakar> sarnold, I know....I should be ashamed but it's been so damn long since i've messed with /etc/fstab
[23:23] <Hebram> Crowley2:  I do not see "options" as an option.  I do have "properties", but I see no where in the tabs to point to an icon file.
[23:23] <halakar> sinichiro, can i get that through this little "software center" thing ?
[23:23] <Sir_Leto> Does anyone know how I could make a bash script that makes my bluetooth headset ring? http://www.digipedia.pl/usenet/thread/18069/10936/ this might help.
[23:24] <wylde> Sir_Leto: I bet they'd have good answers over in #bash :)
[23:24] <sarnold> no, I doubt they would.
[23:24] <sinichiro> halakar, you might. Search for a program called Advances settings.
[23:24] <sarnold> wouldn't.
[23:24] <sinichiro> Advanced, rather
[23:24]  * rawfodog cancels ubuntu update
[23:24] <rawfodog> lets try sunday lol
[23:24] <ThePendulum> I am running 12.04 on a dualscreen, and the notification panel is displayed on both screens. How does one disable one of them?
[23:24] <natman> hello, on a fresh 12.04 install, how do i enter the Grub menu, i have it set to log in automatically and it is not a dual boot system
[23:25] <halakar> GNOME tweak tool ?
[23:25] <samster34> ok, now  nouveau wont even work on the desktop where its worked fine before...trying to run it in failsafe mode, and I get a window saing I'm running in low graphics mode....but I can't acknowledge. I have no mouse cursor.....AND the keyboard is dead. again...wtf
[23:25] <sinichiro> halakar, basically yeah
[23:25] <pengw> Hi all
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> natman: hold shift at boot
[23:25] <halakar> thanks for your help, gang.
[23:25] <pndemc_> is the best way to fix a windows grub listing to use the windows repair disk?
[23:25] <sinichiro> ThePendulum, go to system settings and open "displays"
[23:26] <halakar> after i get my rig all tweaked to my liking, i'll have to worry about bringing up a virtual machine and vsftpd, that's about it
[23:26] <wylde> !grub | pndemc_
[23:26] <pengw> when i try to upgrade it shows me that two app been back which include gummi and shutter. So I can I particularly upgrade these packet?
[23:26] <halakar> maybe wine for when i like to play half life on steam..
[23:26] <pengw> BTW 12.04 is nice
[23:27] <Fyodorovna> pndemc_, what is the actual problem?
[23:27] <bencc> what's the difference between gnome-session-fallback and gnome-panel?
[23:27] <pndemc_> after installing mint using wubi
[23:27] <pndemc_> the grub listing for windows no longer works
[23:27] <halakar> sarnold, so the best thing to do is just edit my /etc/fstab and put in the /dev/uid for my device and restart... ?
[23:27] <wylde> pndemc_: using windows disk will remove grub altogether.
[23:28] <Fyodorovna> pndemc_, you might run a chkdsk from the disc.
[23:28] <ThePendulum> bencc: gnome-panel is just the panel, where, afaik, gnome-session-fallback would be the entire gnome DE
[23:28] <pndemc_> the repair option would remove GRUB?
[23:29] <halakar> i wonder if i can snag my virtual machine file and just open it with virtual box
[23:29] <halakar> that would be nice
[23:29] <natman> I am trying to enable a Kernel option, i am at the page for boot option, can someone help me?
[23:29] <bencc> ThePendulum: thanks
[23:29] <sarnold> halakar: If it were my problem, yeah, I'd edit fstab -- but there's no need to restart. If you add the 'user' option to the mount options, then you can just run "mount /path/to/mountpoint" and it'll mount it immediately.
[23:29] <jerkface03> Can someone help me please? Trying to install openjdk 7... here's the command I ran: sudo apt-get install openjdk-jre-7
[23:29] <jerkface03> But it gives me an error saying that it's not able to locate the package
[23:29] <Fyodorovna> pndemc_, the bootloader you should be seeing with a wubi is the windows one, don't boot windows from the grub gui that you get from choosing ubuntu at the boot menu.
[23:29] <jerkface03> Using ubuntu server 12.04 lts
[23:29] <krababbel> pndemc_: I just did sudo grub-install /dev/sd.. to fix the menu
[23:29] <halakar> sarnold, do i have to specify options for fs type, etc?  it's an ext4 volume
[23:30] <sarnold> jerkface03: doesn't look like 7 is packaged yet: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=openjdk-jre-7
[23:30] <jerkface03> sarnold: so what do I do?
[23:30] <Narc> Hello everyone, I'm using Precise on an Asus K53SD laptop and the brightness settings are forgotten with each reboot. Any idea on how to make them "stick" ? Thanks
[23:30] <synackfin> how do I view all packages that are not part of any repository anymore (after ugprading to 12.04) ?
[23:30] <quetzal> jerkface03: It's openjdk-7-jre. :-P
[23:30] <sarnold> quetzal: oh hell. :) nice.
[23:31] <synackfin> I want a list of packages still 'stuck' at 10.04
[23:31] <jerkface03> quetzal: nice.
[23:31] <jerkface03> thank you.
[23:31] <pndemc_> a little more information, the GRUB menu was for picking between two seperate drives, it's not just different partitions on the same drive
[23:31] <quetzal> jerkface03: No problem. :-)
[23:31] <krababbel> pndemc_: same for me
[23:31] <sarnold> halakar: I would specify ext4 if it is an ext4 system
[23:31] <pndemc_> the wubi was supposed to be on the same disk as windows
[23:31] <halakar> sigh, been so long since i've done this command line
[23:31] <Fyodorovna> pndemc_, bad use of a wubi, I'm not surprised your having problems.
[23:32] <ManuelSantana> just installed ubuntu 12.04
[23:32] <ManuelSantana> well not installed
[23:32] <ManuelSantana> livecd testing
[23:32] <krababbel> pndemc_: OK, not sure about what wubi does, but my first drive with windows still has windows boot manager on it, the second has grub, and I boot from the second
[23:32] <halakar> what about taking ownership of files/directories with nautilus?  it doesn't seem possible - do i have to chown/chgrp with CLI on this too ?
[23:33] <krababbel> pndemc_: I didn't want to touch the boot manager of windows, when i boot from the first drive, windows boots normally
[23:33] <pndemc_> yeah I now realize I should have done it manually
[23:33] <Guest47545> I need some help
[23:33] <dforthman> Is there a way to downgrade from 12.04 to 11.10 without having to download and burn another cd?
[23:33] <Garshall> heh
[23:33] <tbruff13> Guest36342, whats up
[23:33] <pndemc_> okay, so what's the next step?
[23:33] <tbruff13> dforthman, I do not think so
[23:33] <tbruff13> lets google it
[23:33] <sinichiro> halakar, with apps like Gnomw tweak and Ubuntu tweak, you can add a right-click option for ownership I think.
[23:33] <bazhang> dforthman, use a usb stick
[23:34] <krababbel> pndemc_: ubuntu installes grub to the drive which is set to boot first.
[23:34] <bazhang> !unetbootin | tbruff13 dforthman
[23:34] <Guest47545>  in the process of upgrading to precise pangolin. then it seemed to have 'gotten stuck' after downloading the packages so I restarted the computer and now ubuntu won't boot
[23:34] <halakar> sinichiro, are those apps reliable?  do not want to break anything
[23:34] <Narc> Hello everyone, I'm using Precise on an Asus K53SD laptop and the brightness settings are forgotten with each reboot. Any idea on how to make them "stick" ? Thanks
[23:34] <pndemc_> that would be the drive windows is installed on krababbel
[23:35] <dforthman> bazhang, I don't have a USB stick. Thanks for the help, though.
[23:35] <bazhang> Guest47545, at what point was it at? configuring packages?
[23:35] <Guest47545> yeah i think so
[23:35] <tbruff13> bazhang, I don't need that information
[23:35] <ManuelSantana> can i install ubuntu 12.04 on a secondary partition to dual boot windows?
[23:35] <wylde> dforthman: no, you'll have to do a reinstall to downgrade.
[23:35] <bazhang> tbruff13, it's possible, you seemed not to know it
[23:35] <tbruff13> ManuelSantana, yes you can
[23:35] <Guest47545> it just says general error mounting filesystems. a maintenance shell will now be started
[23:36] <ManuelSantana> it's an extended partition...does it matter?
[23:36] <tbruff13> bazhang, what is possible downgrading without making a CD/USB
[23:36] <bazhang> tbruff13, just the cd was what he asked
[23:36] <Guest47545> bazhang any ideas?
[23:36] <dforthman> tbruff13, i should have been more clear. instead of 'download and burn' i should have said 'fresh install'
[23:37] <bazhang> dforthman, fresh install is the only path for that
[23:37] <dforthman> bazhang, thanks.
[23:38] <Guest47545> it says mountall: /ib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version GLIBC_2.14' not found
[23:38] <krababbel> pndemc_: then restore windows boot first, so grub can find it
[23:39] <krababbel> pndemc_: then set bios to boot from second and restore grub
[23:39] <biobunsai> so how many bugs does Ubu 12.04 have?
[23:39] <synackfin> how do I view all packages that are not part of any repository anymore (after ugprading to 12.04) ?  I want a list of packages 'stuck' on 10.04 or 8.04
[23:39] <sarnold> Guest47545: do you have sash installed on that machine? sash is a statically linked administration shell, it might be able to run well enough to let you fix that problem
[23:40] <Arthur_D> biobunsai: hopefully fewer than the normal releases
[23:40] <Guest47545> i don't know if I have sash. never heard of it before
[23:40] <Dan-The-Man> how can you stop unity from assuming the wallpaper
[23:40] <Dan-The-Man> average color
[23:40] <krababbel> pndemc_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099
[23:41] <Guest47545> how do I find sash?
[23:41] <wylde> !find sash
[23:41] <wylde> !info sash
[23:42] <sarnold> Guest47545: if you installed it, it'll be in /bin/sash -- just type /bin/sash and see if it starts
[23:42] <bc``> i will paypal someone $20 if they can help me fix my problem
[23:42] <Guest47545> k
[23:42] <samster34> "Gave up waiting for root device" <--- what?
[23:42] <Jen> bc``: not necessarily the best way to get an answer.
[23:42] <pndemc_> okay thanks <krababbel>,
[23:42] <polardude1983> Hello, I am having trouble deleting duplicate sources. I do have ubuntu tweak installed too
[23:42] <JoseeAntonioR> Hi! I'd like to know how long should it take to restore previously installed packages?
[23:42] <krababbel> pndemc_: np :)
[23:42] <pndemc_> I'm gonna wait for my ubuntu 12.04 update to finish first
[23:43] <pndemc_> and then I'll pull out the repair disk
[23:43] <Guest47545> i dont have sash
[23:43] <bc``> i know, i'm just growing frusterated
[23:43] <bc``> im new and been working on this for 4 hours and its killing me
[23:43] <krababbel> pndemc_: yes, I think without the windows bootmanager intact, grub won't find it to put it in the menu
[23:44] <bc``> Command (m for help): w
[23:44] <bc``> The partition table has been altered!
[23:44] <bc``> Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.
[23:44] <bc``> Syncing disks.
[23:44] <bc``> media@xbmc:~/videos$
[23:44] <FloodBot1> bc``: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:44] <bc``> i keep getting that when trying to format my disk
[23:44] <pndemc_> btw how do you message people like that? lol
[23:44] <bc``> pndemc: /msg
[23:44] <wylde> !tab | pndemc_
[23:44] <bc``> pndemc_: msg [name] [message]
[23:45] <dniMretsaM> Installed Ubuntu 12.04 minimal, but can't get X11 to run. When I run "sudo X -configure" I get this error: "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices." Any help?
[23:45] <krababbel> pndemc_: I just used your nick autocomplete
[23:45] <sarnold> bc``: what's the problem?
[23:45] <daadaa> bye. bye free internet http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/04/house-passes-cispa/
[23:45] <bc``> sarnold: I have no idea.  each time i try to format, i choose "t", then "83" then "w", and when it goes to write, it craps out like that
[23:45] <pndemc_> krababbel, wait, like this?
[23:45] <pndemc_> that makes it red for you?
[23:46] <tamit> exit
[23:46] <krababbel> pndemc_: yes
[23:46] <polardude1983> I am having trouble finding duplicate sources that the sudo apt-get update is giving me
[23:46] <pndemc_> krababbel, ohh, cool >_<
[23:46] <krababbel> pndemc_: depends on your irc client config though :)
[23:46] <wylde> pndemc_: for some it even makes noise! :)
[23:46] <Narc> Hello everyone, I'm using Precise on an Asus K53SD laptop and the brightness settings are forgotten with each reboot. Any idea on how to make them "stick" ? Thanks
[23:46] <Chaser> bc``,  the message that you see is normal AFAIK
[23:47] <sarnold> bc``: are you sure it _crapped out_? The w key is supposed to write and quit. Does fdisk -l /dev/whatever show the changes you made?
[23:47] <zykotick9> bc``: that looks like a sucessful fdisk outcome, to create a partition.  that's not the same as formatting!  that comes next.
[23:47] <pndemc_> krababbel, wylde, im on xchat, I'll edit mine so it makes noise lol
[23:47] <bazhang> !ot | daadaa
[23:48] <bc``> it says: Partition number (1-4, default 2): ^Cmedia@xbmc:~$ fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[23:48] <bc``> Cannot open /dev/sdc
[23:48] <zykotick9> bc``: just try "sudo fdisk -l" to list all paritions
[23:48] <JoseeAntonioR> I think ubiquity got stuck while restoring previously installed packges.
[23:49] <sarnold> bc``: you ran fdisk -l as a normal user, which will not have permission to list the partition on block devices; use sudo fdisk -l
[23:49] <bc``> it is showing there in fdisk -l
[23:49] <zykotick9> bc``: so format it now.
[23:50] <bc``> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc ?
[23:50] <zykotick9> bc``: that's partitioning AGAIN.  what format do you want it ext or fat/ntfs?
[23:50] <kfizz> Just upgraded to 12.04. Getting black screen. F7 terminal shows "checking battery state" as last entry. Sudo X	-configure errors because created screens doesn't match number of detected devices. Any ideas?
[23:51] <Guest47545> does anyone know how I can recover ubuntu? I was in the process of upgrading it when it froze and now ubuntu won't boot at all.
[23:51] <psy_> привет
[23:51] <bc``> oops sorry
[23:51] <wylde> Guest47545: how recent are your backups? heh.
[23:51] <bc``> ok.. does this make sense, then? sudo mkfs -t ext3 /dev/sdc
[23:52] <Guest47545> no idea
[23:52] <zykotick9> bc``: almost /dev/sdc1 (assuming 1 partiton)
[23:52] <bc``> ah yes
[23:52] <bc``> ty
[23:52] <sokak> hi dudes, silly question - i messed up with getlibs trying to revive dofus sound on a 64 bit install, i guess i've installed a bunch of crap... How do i remove the 32 bits libraries installed by getlibs? :3
[23:52] <psy_> кто знает,как толком вов звпустить?
[23:52] <wylde> Guest26174: does no idea mean you don't keep backups of your data outside your Ubuntu install?
[23:53] <wylde> !ru | psy_
[23:53] <sacarlson> Guest47545: depending on if you installed a fresh copy of 12.04 to a fresh unused partition or if you tried to upgrade a system on it's original partition
[23:53] <pndemc_> for setting up a web-server, what would people suggest, debian, ubuntu-se, or something else?
[23:53] <ThePendulum> I'm either drunk or I hit my head badly, but I somehow had no issue reading those Russian sentences.
[23:53] <Guest47545> the latter
[23:53] <wylde> pndemc_: I run mine on Ubuntu server. But it's just a hobby site really, very little traffic.
[23:54] <pmp6nl> Hello, if I have a separate home partition can I install 12.04 over 11.10 and it will keep all settings, etc?
[23:54] <sacarlson> Guest47545: then my guess is you will have to reinstall as fresh from a live boot cd of usb flash
[23:54] <pndemc_> my server will be handeling about 20GB transfer a day,
[23:54] <Guest47545> thats what i was afraid of. so i'll lose all my data
[23:54] <sacarlson> Guest47545: if you had anything of value on the disk you might want to try to recover it
[23:54] <Guest47545> how do i recover it?
[23:54] <zykotick9> pmp6nl: depending what you are installing over, some of those home directory setting could potentially cause issues... just something to watch out for.
[23:55] <sokak> Guest26174, just 7zip it on an external hdd.
[23:55] <wylde> Guest47545:  Best answer I have for you is to use a live cd to backup your data and expect to have to reinstall, if someone would care to tell me I'm wrong please do, this is one of those times I like being wrong :)
[23:55] <pndemc_> wylde, lamp, and tf2 game servers. would ubuntu still be a good choice?
[23:55] <sokak> good point zykotick9, better just backup personal data
[23:55] <sacarlson> Guest47545: boot a live cd or usb flash, try to mount the /home partition and copy the valued data to usb flash or other media
[23:55] <pmp6nl> zykotick9, Ok.  I am mainly wanting installed program settings
[23:56] <Guest47545> ok thanks sacarlson
[23:56] <dniMretsaM> still need some help configuring X11
[23:56] <zykotick9> pmp6nl: just test stuff against a different user account if you run into issues.
[23:56] <pmp6nl> zykotick9, ok thanks
[23:57] <wylde> pndemc_: my "home" server (just an OLD pc) is currently serving as an LTSP server for my thin client inj the garage, a backup server for all the machines on the network as well as a media server for streaming movies and music on the lan...so I guess so?
[23:58] <kfizz> (kfizz) Just upgraded to 12.04. Getting black screen. F7 terminal shows "checking battery state" as last entry. Sudo X	-configure errors because created screens doesn't match number of detected devices. Any ideas?
[23:58] <sokak> no one knows how to undo getlibs installed libraries? o well, time to take the plunge and jump from maverick to pangolin
[23:58] <wylde> pndemc_: ..err on top of my home hobby LAMP server... :)
[23:58] <pengw> hi
[23:59] <pengw> who know how to upgrade a particularly packet for example gummi
[23:59] <zykotick9> sokak: maverick would require multiple upgrades would it not?
[23:59] <pndemc_> wylde, do you use a GUI, or command-line only?
[23:59] <dniMretsaM> kfizz: I have a similar problem. same error, but I'm doing an install from a minimal CD
[23:59] <sokak> zykotick9, i was just too lazy to update - also 80k adsl here - i guess this getlibs tragedy is a good input to take the plunge ^^
[23:59] <pmp6nl> zykotick9, What happens with PPAs if I go this route?
[23:59] <wylde> pndemc_: the machine itself is headless. It does have an xserver installed but that's only for serving the thin client in the garage.
[23:59] <zykotick9> sokak: getlibs does have an uninstall