[03:44] <scunizi> ActionParsnip: only a coder would come up with that:)
[03:44] <eseven73> sebsebseb, you're*
[03:44] <sisterblue> how can I get .mid files to play
[03:44] <sebsebseb> eseven73: yes  you're
[03:44] <sebsebseb> !!!!
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> scunizi: i just like the facts :D
[03:44] <eseven73> ;)
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> sisterblue: install timidity
[03:44] <scunizi> ActionParsnip: you'll never be a politician with that attitude!
[03:44] <sisterblue> hi actionparsnip  it is already installed but they still do not play
[03:44] <bosco> http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv164/boscoslife/Screenshot.png?t=1239417720 i need to know what partition i need to edit to make it so i have a ntfs for both ubuntu and linux???????????
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> scunizi: i'm not even on the electoral register dude :)
[03:45] <scunizi> bosco:  you mean you want to share a partition between windows and linux?
[03:45] <lstarnes> bosco: ubuntu should be using a filesystem native to linux, such as ext3
[03:45] <rashed2020> Hey y'all
[03:45] <h8red> hey
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> sisterblue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268319
[03:46] <sebsebseb> rashed2020 hi
[03:46] <h8red> can someone point me to a good website with very basic explanations of linux terminal commands?
[03:46] <pl4sMa> hi guys, can help ? ... my built-in bluetooth is not detected, nothing shows up on 'hcitool dev'
[03:46] <h8red> i'm used to using a command prompt, but in DOS
[03:46] <h8red> linux is completely new to me :(
[03:46] <wizared> what about a lexmark x3430.
[03:46] <scunizi> bosco: linux won't run in ntfs.. windows won't run in ext3.. but they can share either a ntfs or ext3 partition for data.. typically ext3 is good  .. there's a driver for windows to see it
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> h8red: terminal is similar but has a billion times more power, if you are new just use the system and get used to it
[03:47] <cchaos> scunizi: more info please
[03:47] <scunizi> h8red: lots of the concepts translate.. if you know dos or some of it you'll catch on easier
[03:47] <scunizi> cchaos: ?
[03:47] <bosco> scunizi, right look at the screen shot of gparted and i need to know what i need to edit since i  have no space left so i dont loose any os
[03:47] <WebcamWonder> scunizi: There is a driver for ext2, not for ext3. If you use the ext2, you get to turn off disabling. Ntfs-3g, on the other hand, is much better
[03:47] <WebcamWonder> scunizi: journaling*
[03:47] <cchaos> scunizi: re: driver for XP to read ext3
[03:47] <h8red> ActionParsnip: I've only been using Ubuntu 1 day now
[03:48] <sebsebseb> bosco: and Ext4 is just round the corner in Ubuntu 9.04, and  Linux can read and write nicely to NTFS. and there's a  Ext3 driver for Windows
[03:48] <h8red> Whatever commands I've entered I've typed off the web
[03:48] <h8red> I have no idea what I'm typing
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> h8red: then just get used to it for now, get your hardware setup and then have fun
[03:48] <wizared> xsane doesnt work with a lexmark x3430. what will
[03:48] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Google has many, http://www.google.com/search?q=beginner%27s+guide+to+Linux+terminal&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> h8red: thats fine for now
[03:48] <h8red> cool thanks
[03:49] <scunizi> bosco: so you're just trying to create another partition?.. I'd blow away the swap and shrink the linux partition .. then recreate the swap
[03:49] <h8red> been a windows power user for a long time, having patience being a newb all over again is hard hehe
[03:49] <matrixblue_> h8red, download the ubuntu pocket guide
[03:49] <h8red> okay cool
[03:49] <tictac> hmm.
[03:49] <rotkeppchen> ... they are all counting sheep ...
[03:49] <tictac> nvidia tries to use 1280x1024 which isnt supported by my monitor/device.
[03:49] <matrixblue_> h8red, and read a new issues of fullcircle magazine
[03:49] <h8red> fullcircle?
[03:50] <tictac> i tried changing the mode to 1680x1024 in xorg.conf but it still tries to use 1280x1024
[03:50] <matrixblue_> www.fullcirclemagazine.com
[03:50] <tictac> ideas?
[03:50] <h8red> i'm assuming choppy flash / youtube video when maximized comes with the territory running this
[03:50] <sisterblue> actionpasnip  thank you  that is also already installed.  .mid files still do not play when using the browser  firefox or seamonkey why??
[03:50] <matrixblue_> http://www.fullcirclemagazine.org sorry
[03:50] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Yes. But it gets better if you are running Flash 10
[03:51] <h8red> hell i dont even know which one i got
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> tictac: you can manually populate xorg.conf with the res you want, set it to something your monitor CAN use then edit xorg.conf and edit it as youu wish
[03:51] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Try right clicking on any flash movie, it will tell you about <version number>
[03:51] <scunizi> WebcamWonder: true.. cchaos check out http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd
[03:51] <LiveSwearengen> if i dont have a /boot what should i do
[03:52] <matrixblue_> shippo: I'm guessing your problem is solved?
[03:52] <h8red> 10 sweet
[03:52] <sisterblue> actionparsnip thank you that is also already installed. .mid files still do not play when using the browser firefox or seamonkey why??
[03:53] <cchaos> scunizi: thanks
[03:53] <thatarmyengineer> i need help
[03:53] <thatarmyengineer> with getting ubuntu up
[03:53] <sebsebseb> thatarmyengineer: with what?
[03:53] <scunizi> cchaos: np
[03:53] <sebsebseb> thatarmyengineer: booted up or installed?
[03:53] <h8red> i got some really great stuff from the add applications button.  i have an rpn calculator now
[03:53] <cchaos> !ask | thatarmyengineer
[03:53] <sebsebseb> h8red: add applications heh
[03:53] <thatarmyengineer> well i installed it
[03:53] <matrixblue_> thatarmyengineer, we need details to be able to assist
[03:53] <sebsebseb> h8red: use the synaptic package manager :)
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> sisterblue: not sure, maybe it needs a symlink to the plugins . let me websearch
[03:54] <sebsebseb> h8red: and you can learn how to get stuff usign command line as well
[03:54] <h8red> im not quite sure how seb
[03:54] <shippo> matrixblue_: not yet
[03:54] <thatarmyengineer> i installed it and all and im currently on windows 7 os
[03:54] <sebsebseb> h8red: add/remove is a cut down version of synaptic package manager and it isan't that good
[03:54] <scunizi> h8red: you think there's lots there. check out System/Admin/Synaptic Package Manager for more
[03:54] <shippo> It does not appear that it booted to the desktop
[03:54] <WebcamWonder> h8red: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> sisterblue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=229671&highlight=midi
[03:54] <h8red> yeah i've been there
[03:54] <matrixblue_> shippo, what's it doing?
[03:54] <h8red> i search for something and nothing comes up in there
[03:54] <shippo> matrixblue_: sitting at a black screen
[03:54] <thatarmyengineer> like its installed on my c drive and all
[03:54] <h8red> like Deluge for instance.  found it in the add app but not package manager
[03:54] <sisterblue> actionparsnip thanx  lemme check that out
[03:54]  * h8red shrug
[03:54] <Ubuntunub> I can't get world of warcraft started on wine (wine channel is blocked invite only)--- Can anyone expierenced with wine/wow on wine help?
[03:55] <matrixblue_> shippo, did you add the extra RAM?
[03:55] <WebcamWonder> Ubuntunub: #winehq is the channel
[03:55] <Ubuntunub> WebcanWonder: thanks
[03:55] <thatarmyengineer> i mean i have a amd quad core and 8gb of ram and all i just need help
[03:55] <DG19075> h8red: you can use sudo apt-get install from a terminal to install stuff
[03:55] <cina1977> hi any 1 here
[03:55] <cchaos> !ask | thatarmyengineer
[03:55] <sebsebseb> cina1977: no
[03:56] <cchaos> lol
[03:56] <Ubuntunub> WebcanWonder: it says i am banned from it
[03:56] <cina1977> ok
[03:56] <thatarmyengineer> i have tried asking
[03:56] <cina1977>  :D
[03:56] <shippo> matrixblue_: not yet give me a sec
[03:56] <WebcamWonder> Ubuntunub: Well, there must be a reason. But you might want to try ot for that. This is the official support channel
[03:56] <WebcamWonder> !ot | Ubuntunub
[03:56] <thatarmyengineer> i need to know how to get ubuntu to boot up on a restart
[03:57] <hexoroid> how can i add user to have root privillages adduser -g or something
[03:57] <matrixblue_> thatarmyengineer, how far in the installation are you getting?
[03:57] <WebcamWonder> thatarmyengineer: We need more detailed description as to what is happening
[03:57] <thatarmyengineer> i get fully into the install its all the way installed
[03:57] <lstarnes> hexoroid: sudo gpasswd -a username admin
[03:57] <sebsebseb> cchaos: we put him off the channel? he heh
[03:57] <matrixblue_> thatarmyengineer, when you reboot there should be an option to boot from Ubuntu
[03:58] <thatarmyengineer> nope
[03:58] <lstarnes> Ubuntunub: try finding one of their ops with /msg chanserv access #winehq list
[03:58] <cchaos> sebsebseb: yeah go on then lol
[03:58] <matrixblue_> boot to Ubuntu*
[03:58] <sebsebseb> cchaos: he left rather soon after your lol
[03:58] <hexoroid> lstarnes what about normal name with uid 0 like adduser -g 0 or something like that
[03:58] <thatarmyengineer> it doesnt say to it just auto loads windows 7 no optopn
[03:58] <h8red> DG19075:  yeah i do the sudo get that's how i got my flash player and divx codecs
[03:58] <lstarnes> hexoroid: that is highly not recommended
[03:58] <h8red> and vlc
[03:58] <h8red> i tried to remove that lame totem player, it's so glitchy
[03:58] <h8red> but it wont remove
[03:58] <lstarnes> hexoroid: doing so will likely result in irrereversible damage
[03:59] <cchaos> sebsebseb: just noticed lol
[03:59] <WebcamWonder> h8red: That is the biggest sign of a power user. Removing totem :)
[03:59] <sebsebseb> !lol >  cchaso
[03:59] <rotkeppchen> ./
[03:59] <sebsebseb> !lol >  cchaos
[03:59] <h8red> well i dont think unbuntu wants to let it go
[03:59] <thatarmyengineer> ok is there a tech i could talk to cause im not getting any help
[03:59] <thiebaude> h8red: did you sudo apt-get remove totem?
[03:59] <DG19075> h8red; you'd use apt-get remove for that
[04:00] <WebcamWonder> h8red: It will ask you to remove the ubuntu-desktop metapackage, which can sound a little disturbing, but it isn't. However, for new uesrs, I recommend just keeping it around
[04:00] <cchaos> sebsebseb: fair enough
[04:00] <h8red> okay.  it's not taking up much space anyway im sure
[04:00] <matrixblue_> thatarmyengineer, I', not entirely sure the wubi installer works on Windows 7 as that OS isn't officially release yet. (it would be retarded if Microsoft blocked Ubuntu in Windows 7)
[04:00] <h8red> i'm assuming vlc is the best linux video player?
[04:00] <WebcamWonder> h8red: I prefer mplayer handsdown
[04:00] <sebsebseb> h8red: no it's not the best
[04:00] <coz_> h8red,  well many people think so  I personally use mplayer
[04:01] <h8red> oh, really?
[04:01] <thatarmyengineer> well it wont
[04:01] <sebsebseb> h8red: mplayer is good and banshee
[04:01] <scunizi> h8red: I use both vlc and mplayer..
[04:01] <coz_> h8red,  vlc is great on windows though :)
[04:01] <sebsebseb> !best |  h8red
[04:01] <thatarmyengineer> as soon as it was installed i restarted and then bam windows 7 loaded no option to load ubuntu
[04:01] <scunizi> h8red: vlc will also tune online tv and radio
[04:01] <h8red> i didn't care for vlc on windows
[04:01] <h8red> more of a media player classic kinda guy
[04:01] <h8red> but i figured it was better in linux or something
[04:01] <lstarnes> thatarmyengineer: you could try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[04:02] <Xcell> sudo deletebillgates -F -r now
[04:02] <Xcell> j/k
[04:02] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Like most people said here. It boils down to personal preference, and most people either choose mplayer or vlc
[04:02] <matrixblue_> thatarmyengineer, Other than trying the install again I'm out of ideas. Try the Ubuntu forums
[04:02] <WebcamWonder> thatarmyengineer: Were you trying wubi?
[04:02] <thatarmyengineer> yes
[04:03] <thatarmyengineer> thats what i installed it with i believe
[04:03] <h8red> i just did a quicksearch in synaptic for mplayer and nothing came up
[04:03] <scunizi> Xcell: that would be sudo rm -rf bill.gates
[04:03] <shippo> matrixblue_: new ram is in
[04:03] <Xcell> wow.. worked.. thanks
[04:03] <h8red> not sure what i'm doing wrong... i have the medibuntu packages in there
[04:03] <WebcamWonder> thatarmyengineer: Here is the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/318135
[04:03] <KillerOrca> I just installed a new DVD writer and HDD and my screen resolution is now set incorrectly, and the option that it was previously set at is now gone, any ideas?
[04:04] <matrixblue_> shippo, try the install option from the first menu
[04:04] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Are you sure. Fire up a terminal and tell me if this command works, aptitude show mplayer
[04:05] <shippo> matrixblue_: trying that now
[04:06] <matrixblue_> shippo, crossing fingers
[04:06] <h8red> yeah webcam
[04:06] <h8red> it pasted a whole bunch of stuff
[04:06] <h8red> says not installed though
[04:06] <Rounin> Hello... I was wondering whether there's any simple way to make the little calendar in the corner in Gnome (seems to be called "Clock" and made by the FSF) to display Monday as the first day of the week?
[04:06] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Meh... I never liked synaptic in the first place :p.... Don't know why it isn't working for you though
[04:06] <sebsebseb> h8red: use cheese to test web cam
[04:06] <matrixblue_> h8red, sudo apt-get install mplayer
[04:06] <WebcamWonder> h8red: sudo aptitude install mplayer, to install it
[04:07] <h8red> thanks
[04:07] <B3rz3rk3r> sebsebseb, why not just use your computer to test it? :p
[04:07] <WebcamWonder> sebsebseb: You want to test me? :P
[04:07] <cchaos> Rounin: seems to be set on mine as starting day: monday
[04:07] <h8red> but searching in the package manager...something 'should' come up when i search right
[04:07] <matrixblue_> h8red, I like smplayer which is a front end to mplayer (gives better controls)
[04:07] <h8red> okay
[04:07] <h8red> thanks guys
[04:07] <Rounin> That's odd, cchaos... Is there a setting somewhere, or does it just detect it somehow, you think?
[04:08] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Yeah. On the left, there would be a category saying programs installed, not installed. Try switching the categotry
[04:08] <cchaos> Rounin: give me a min: Im playing with it
[04:08] <h8red> sudo aptitude install smplayer
[04:08] <h8red> thats what im about to do
[04:08] <sebsebseb> B3rz3rdk3r  and  WebcamWonder  did I miss something?   I thought someone wanted to get a web cam working,  and I haven't used cheese personally
[04:08] <Rounin> Sure
[04:09] <WebcamWonder> sebsebseb: He was asking about mplayer and abreviatted my nick :)
[04:09] <shippo> matrixblue_: same thing! :(
[04:09] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Yup, that would install mplayer
[04:09] <sebsebseb> WebcamWonder: oh ok
[04:09] <matrixblue_> shippo, where exactly does it hang again?
[04:10] <h8red> awesome
[04:10] <cchaos> Rounin: cant see any settings for it :a
[04:10] <h8red> so that's how i install stuff
[04:10] <tictac> bah i still cant get xorg to run at 1680x1050.
[04:10] <Rounin> cchaos: Haha, how odd... But thanks for checking it out, anyway
[04:10] <h8red> i don't quite get how that works yet, but cool
[04:10] <_Brun0__> sveakex, back
[04:10] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Yup. The power user way... :)... And to remove stuff, sudo aptitude purge <package_name>
[04:11] <cchaos> Rounin: go to about: what version are you using?
[04:11] <h8red> sudo aptitude purge vlc
[04:11] <Rounin> 2.24.1 it says
[04:11] <Mean_Admin> hi, I'm trying to copy my OS to a new hard drive. I've cp -ax / to a new hard drive, anything else I should do ?
[04:11] <h8red> well ill try to remove that from that package manager thing
[04:11] <h8red> it seems there are probably other files associated w/ vlc
[04:11] <Rounin> The Ubuntu version is... The ... the one from six months ago
[04:12] <WebcamWonder> h8red: If you remove vlc, all its dependencies would automatically be removed (it will inform you of those packages)
[04:12] <matrixblue_> h8red, keep vlc player
[04:12] <DG19075> h8red: you can also use apt-get install -y to eliminate the Do you want to continue question
[04:12] <Rounin> The <adjective> <animal or bird name>
[04:12] <cchaos> Rounin: same as mine then
[04:12] <h8red> why keep it?  i have mplayer
[04:12] <DG19075> that should be, apt-get install -y
[04:12] <h8red> i dont need 24 different media players
[04:12] <Rounin> Ah well, perhaps my .deb repository is run by a Jehovah's Witness
[04:12] <Rounin> It's a mystery
[04:13] <WebcamWonder> h8red: That is fine. It is your choice. Generally, linux programs are cheap in terms of their diskspace
[04:13] <matrixblue_> h8red, it can play some stuff that mplayer can;t
[04:13] <h8red> oh?
[04:13] <WebcamWonder> matrixblue_: Really? I have yet to come across such an event
[04:13] <matrixblue_> h8red, I'd remove everything except mplayer and VLC
[04:13] <h8red> i figured that would be more about the codecs than player
[04:13] <cchaos> Rounin: that I dont know
[04:13] <matrixblue_> WebcamWonder, FLV are one example
[04:14] <h8red> flv good call!
[04:14] <shippo> matrixblue_: trying again to make sure
[04:14] <h8red> does mplayer or vln do well with mp3
[04:14] <h8red> or should i get a mp3 specific player
[04:14] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Both do well
[04:14] <DG19075> vlc does
[04:14] <matrixblue_> h8red, for mp3 go with Banshee
[04:14] <bonez46> where can I find networking help? I want to get my printer set up to share on my LAN with some other windows machines..
[04:14] <WebcamWonder> h8red: But as far as library management goes, I don't think you can consider them as library managers
[04:14] <DG19075>  and alsaplayer does too
[04:15] <WebcamWonder> bonez46: ##networking
[04:15] <h8red> i always used windows explorer as a library manager
[04:15] <bonez46> WebcamWonder: thanks
[04:15] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Then you should be good with both of them :)
[04:15] <WebcamWonder> bonez46: Np
[04:15] <h8red> rockkkk
[04:15] <DG19075> h8res: here you can use nautilus or thunar
[04:16] <Radtoo> bonez46: or samba / cups tutorials (can't link atm, but you'll find some)
[04:16] <matrixblue_> h8red, they'll be good unless you want playlists, shuffle, iPod sync, etc
[04:16] <shippo> matrixblue_: starting ubiquity...
[04:16] <bonez46> Radtoo:  thanks..
[04:16] <DG19075> like you'd use windows explorer
[04:16] <h8red> the computer i'm sitting at now has a funky wireless card, always a pain to get the drivers installed in windows
[04:16] <matrixblue_> shippo, awesome!!!!
[04:16] <h8red> when i installed unbutu it was no problem whatsoever
[04:17] <WebcamWonder> h8red: Well, that is a first :D
[04:17] <h8red> come a long way, last time i tried to install linux years ago, i was stopped b/c of a lack of drivers
[04:17] <DG19075> which is why i dumped windows for this
[04:17] <shippo> failed again
[04:17] <matrixblue_> WebcamWonder, people always talk about wireless card issues but I've yet to come across one
[04:17] <shippo> matrixblue_:
[04:18] <h8red> i dumped windows last night when both my desktop and laptop cratered and i got enraged because i just formatted them both a few weeks ago
[04:18] <shippo> something about the monitor...
[04:18] <DG19075> and microsofts genuine advantage that say guilty till proven innocent on windows installs
[04:18] <matrixblue_> shippo, what exact error message do you get?
[04:18] <h8red> so i googled best linux distro.....grabbed the unbuntu torrent
[04:18] <h8red> and here i am today
[04:18] <WebcamWonder> matrixblue_: Depends entirely on what card you have seriously. I also don't have any problems with the wireless, but I have only used broadcom
[04:18] <shippo> splash: setting mode 640x480 failed
[04:18] <shippo> screen init failed
[04:18] <drowner> i had wireless card issues on Breezy, went away on edgy
[04:18] <DG19075> trust me, you'll fall in love with this beast
[04:19] <DG19075> rock solid and just runs and runs
[04:19] <h8red> i have a considerable amount of windows open on both desktop screens here
[04:19] <shippo> matrixblue_: I am dumped again to ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ prompt
[04:19] <matrixblue_> shippo, sounds like you have to use the alternate CD
[04:19] <cchaos> I had issues with a belkin wireless network card. I ditched it for a edimax one, but currntly using ethernet LAN
[04:19] <DG19075> wow
[04:19] <h8red> one of which is deluge downloading several gigs of torrent
[04:19] <h8red> with no slowdown at all
[04:19] <h8red> the only complaint i have is choppy flash video
[04:19] <matrixblue_> shippo, it's a graphics issue
[04:20] <DG19075> h8red try installing flashplayer-nonfree; that should help
[04:20] <h8red> i did that actually
[04:20] <shippo> matrixblue_: not sure why that would be the issue, it has a appian graphics jeronimo pro card
[04:21] <WebcamWonder> DG19075: He has Flash 10 already...
[04:21] <DG19075> ]in getting rid of the choppiness
[04:21] <h8red> its not so bad at 1152
[04:21] <h8red> but any higher desktop rez and its unwatchable
[04:21] <DG19075> hmmm
[04:21] <shippo> martixblue_:  crud that is probably it, i thought the video card was a matrox card!
[04:22] <cchaos> Whats the commend to edit xorg.conf?
[04:22] <h8red> i googled around a bit and that seems to come with the territory running linux
[04:22] <cchaos> command^
[04:22] <matrixblue_> shippo, not sure either but the fact that you make it to the terminal  ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ means that Xubuntu has loaded but the GUI is having an issue
[04:22] <WebcamWonder> cchaos: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf (IIRC)
[04:23] <cchaos> WebcamWonder: ta
[04:23] <shippo> is there an appian graphics driver for ubuntu?
[04:24] <aprilhare> appian?
[04:24] <shippo> yep
[04:24]  * aprilhare has never heard of appian
[04:24] <shippo> aprilhare: they were a high end graphics card back in the late 90s
[04:25] <aprilhare> shippo: ic - they still produce stuff?
[04:25] <matrixblue_> shippo, I'm sure that there are drivers
[04:25] <genii> shippo: It uses S3 drivers
[04:25] <matrixblue_> but this one is having issues initializing X
[04:25] <shippo> Don't think they are in business anymore
[04:25] <h8red> hmmm does evolution sync w/ blackberry desktop?
[04:26] <h8red> if such a beast exists for linux
[04:26] <homeskillet> is there a movie player that can let me book mark where i was in video files so i can resume watchin later?
[04:26] <genii> shippo: My Appian Way Gemini does, anyhow
[04:26] <shippo> S3 drivers, good, is that part of the base install for xubuntu?
[04:26] <matrixblue_> shippo, either use an older version of xubuntu (8.04) or use the text based installer
[04:26] <rpk2012> whats a crc error     ---system halted
[04:27] <genii> rpk2012: Fatal
[04:27] <Siveran> Is there a way to disable ALSA only temporarily?
[04:27] <twolane> rpk2012: cyclic redundancy check
[04:27] <aprilhare> rpk2012: somebody has corrupted files
[04:27] <PeskyJ> is it possible to see WiFi passwords stored from previous sessions?
[04:27] <thebackwash> h8red: actually, you were talking about learning how to use the terminal progs before, weren't you?
[04:27] <aprilhare> not me :)
[04:27] <shippo> okay guys that is me for the night, i appreciate all of your assistance matrixblue_ and genii
[04:27] <matrixblue_> rpk2012, you need a new HD it seems
[04:27] <h8red> yeah
[04:27] <thebackwash> h9red: i found a really good site
[04:27] <h8red> just basic commands are what i need to learn now
[04:27] <thebackwash> h8red: softpanorama.org
[04:27] <h8red> i dont like having to essentially paste things from the web to install stuff when i dont know exactly what it means
[04:27] <WebcamWonder> homeskillet: You could just notedown the time, and resume from that time. But I don't know of any player that specifically has that feature
[04:27] <thebackwash> h8red: there are definitely some advanced topics on there, but there are also a lot of helpful hints
[04:28] <rpk2012> hrmm, well that sucks
[04:28] <h8red> thanks man really appreciate it!
[04:28] <rpk2012> what can cause this?
[04:29] <cchaos> Are there any scripts (from logon) that select the resolution to be used, or is it all based on xorg.conf?
[04:29] <PeskyJ> I'm at parents house and my brother who set it up is not in, I'm on the wifi on my laptop but need to get the password to connect the iphone too
[04:29] <WebcamWonder> cchaos: xorg.conf
[04:29] <epaphus> dpes openvpn in ubuntu have a GUI??
[04:29] <Radtoo> cchaos: You can use xrandr on runtime, but its not on logon.
[04:30] <matrixblue_> rpk2012, things fail but before you rule it out boot from a live CD and run fsck
[04:30] <coz_> epaphus,   gnome or kde?
[04:30] <epaphus> yeah either
[04:30] <coz_> epaphus,  GoVPM
[04:31]  * aprilhare wonders what can truly take advantage of the physx on his graphics card
[04:31] <crdlb> cchaos: gnome can set the resolution for you via XRandR
[04:31] <matrixblue_> anyway people...I have a site to finish. Later
[04:31] <coz_> epaphus,  openvpm-gui
[04:31] <epaphus> thanks
[04:31] <coz_> epaphus,   http://openvpn.fuchs.cc/
[04:31] <cchaos> WebcamWonder: thought so. So why would "root" login in with a 1280x1024 screen (from xorg.conf) but "normal" run with a 1024x768 screen res? (this is fixed now: Im just wondering what the problem would be)
[04:31] <Ketrel> Are there broadcom cards that CANNOT be setup at all?
[04:32] <WebcamWonder> Ketrel: What do you mean by that?
[04:32] <WebcamWonder> cchaos: That is weird. The resolution would have been setup before the login screen
[04:32] <frybye> PeskyJ: phone your brother and ask him for the pw to the router . in the config there u find the key for the wifi..
[04:32] <crdlb> cchaos: because the user has changed their preferred resolution, and it was written to ~/.config/monitors.xml
[04:32] <PeskyJ> frybye: it's 04:00 here
[04:32] <crdlb> and gnome-settings-daemon reads that file to set the resolution at login
[04:32] <PeskyJ> um 04:30
[04:33] <epaphus> coz_, is that not included in the repository? i cant do apt-get install right?
[04:33] <frybye> then forget it..
[04:33] <cchaos> crdlb: so edit that file, and should be sorted?
[04:33] <PeskyJ> frybye: they're not stored somewhere?
[04:33] <Ketrel> WebcamWonder: I'm trying to get a Broadcom card setup with no luck so I'm asking if there are any that simply will not work
[04:33] <coz_> epaphus,   hold on let me look
[04:34] <WebcamWonder> Ketrel: Depends on your card. One of the models work fine for me
[04:34] <aprilhare> bbl
[04:34] <WebcamWonder> !broadcom | Ketrel
[04:34] <hanasaki> what is the best way to copy over 50 gig of data and keep permissions and owner/group info the same?
[04:34] <frybye> use a device that has already been setup.. and the i-phone next time..
[04:34] <Ketrel> WebcamWonder: you're misunderstanding
[04:34] <coz_> epaphus,  I dont see it in the repisitory
[04:34] <Ketrel> I've done ALL OF THAT with no luck, so I'm asking if there are any cards that WILL NOT work at all
[04:35] <PeskyJ> frybye: my ubuntu laptop doesn't have the app-store on it
[04:35] <WebcamWonder> Ketrel: Don't know of any cards that would refuse to work. What card do you have
[04:35] <epaphus> coz_, anything similar which is included?
[04:35] <coz_> epaphus,  mm let me check
[04:35] <cchaos> Hmmm cant see aa .config folder in home
[04:35] <PeskyJ> how does it connect without knowing the password? it must be somewhere
[04:35] <Ketrel> WebcamWonder: remind me how to check again?
[04:35] <Ketrel> (I started this last night)
[04:36] <WebcamWonder> Ketrel: lspci | grep Broadcom
[04:36] <fool_> hey guys is there a thunderbird equivalent on the console ?
[04:36] <Ketrel> WebcamWonder: BCM4309
[04:36] <coz_> epaphus,  there is  kvpm for kde but if you are not running KDE I wouldnt install that because you are going to pull in the kde libs  and bunch of stuff you dont need for that one app
[04:36] <Mike_lifeguard> Is there an easy way to check how much RAM my computer has in ubuntu?
[04:36] <WebcamWonder> Ketrel: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[04:37] <WebcamWonder> Mike_lifeguard: free
[04:37] <epaphus> coz_, okey
[04:37] <frybye> PeskyJ: sure it is stored - and iirrightly - strongly encrypted...or?
[04:37] <epaphus> i run gnome
[04:37] <WebcamWonder> Mike_lifeguard: or top, or htop
[04:37] <coz_> epaphus, the openvpm-gui should be too difficutl to install let me check
[04:37] <Ketrel> WebcamWonder: Intrepid Ibex
[04:37] <cchaos> monitors.xml: not found uunder search in file system
[04:37] <epaphus> coz_, but i see in the networking icon.. that there is a part that says "connect to a vpn" have you seen it ? default install
[04:37] <PeskyJ> frybye: is it in the keychain?
[04:38] <WebcamWonder> Ketrel: And have you tried enabling the drivers from System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers?
[04:38] <frybye> hang on i was wrong...
[04:38] <pubuntu> hola
[04:38] <Ketrel> WebcamWonder: it found nothing
[04:39] <Ketrel> when I did that
[04:39] <DJvRadio> who was wrong??
[04:39] <frybye> double click on the wlan sig strength icon..
[04:39] <Ketrel> WebcamWonder: it just is blank
[04:39] <DJvRadio> oh
[04:39] <frybye> selectthe name of the wlan there.. and EDIT then click on the box to show key..
[04:40] <crdlb> cchaos: I thought you said it was already fixed?
[04:40] <frybye> PeskyJ: got it??
[04:40] <PeskyJ> frybye: I did that but it's a big old string of hex or something, that's not the password I used... I actually know mostly what the password is, but it has some numbers in that I'm not sure of
[04:40] <crdlb> cchaos: it may be ~/.gnome2/monitors.xml on older versions of ubuntu
[04:41] <cchaos> crdlb: yeah, but with a high refresh rate
[04:41] <cchaos> crdlb: Im using 8.10
[04:42] <XiaolinDraconis> hi guys
[04:42] <WebcamWonder> Ketrel: A quick google search suggests that people got that card working by ndiswrapper only
[04:42] <frybye> hmm.. i had that after mooving to jaunty too.. try copying the hex and entering that...
[04:42] <Ketrel> WebcamWonder: I AM using ndiswrapper
[04:42] <XiaolinDraconis> chown -R is to own folder plus subdirectories right?
[04:43] <yinlong> who can help me that i can't shut down my laptop's bluetooth.
[04:43] <histo_> XiaolinDraconis: yes
[04:43] <XiaolinDraconis> ty
[04:44] <frybye> PeskyJ: i have to go for a bit now.. wish u luck..
[04:44] <yinlong> who knows how to shut down the bluetooth in ubuntu?
[04:44] <ice-nine> yinlong, you should be able to stop the bluetooth service at booth by checking /etc/rc5.d/ for the offending process
[04:44] <PeskyJ> frybye: I think that's the password used generated from the passkey, and if I type that into the iphone, it will hash it or whatever as if it was a passkey itself, rather than the hash of it.
[04:44] <PeskyJ> oh, heh
[04:45] <yinlong> ice-nine,tell me how to do clearly please
[04:45] <meoblast001> hi.... my CD rom won't eject a CD..... i need some help... how can i do this from the command line
[04:45] <XiaolinDraconis> chown -R doesnt work on /media    ?
[04:45] <ice-nine> yinlong, it's listed in my install as S25bluetooth.  In my install, I'd move that to K25bluetooth
[04:45] <XiaolinDraconis> got missing operand
[04:46] <XiaolinDraconis> ello Action
[04:46] <Royall> Does anyone know what the fonts are on in the screenshots on this page? http://torsmo.sourceforge.net/index.php
[04:46] <twolane> XiaolinDraconis: chown -R user:group folder/
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> holla
[04:46] <XiaolinDraconis> ty
[04:46] <XiaolinDraconis> thats what i forgot
[04:46] <ice-nine> yinlong, what does "ls /etc/rc5.d *bluetooth" return?
[04:46] <yinlong> ice-nine,i installed kdebluetooth4,does it work?
[04:46] <XiaolinDraconis> its user OR group right? not both...?
[04:47] <yinlong> ice-nine,ok,let me try it.
[04:47] <twolane> XiaolinDraconis: they can both be the same if thats what you mean, user:user
[04:47] <salvadorfl> hello
[04:47] <salvadorfl> i need help
[04:48] <yinlong> ice-nine,README                       S20dkms_autoinstaller  S30system-tools-backends
[04:48] <yinlong> S01policykit                 S20hotkey-setup        S89anacron
[04:48] <yinlong> S05vbesave                   S20powernowd           S89atd
[04:48] <yinlong> S10acpid                     S20rsync               S89cron
[04:48] <yinlong> S10sysklogd                  S20vboxdrv             S90binfmt-support
[04:48] <FloodBot2> yinlong: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:48] <yinlong> S10xserver-xorg-input-wacom  S20virtualbox-ose      S98usplash
[04:48] <XiaolinDraconis> chown -R user /media is what i typed
[04:48] <cchaos> !ask | salvadorfl
[04:48] <XiaolinDraconis> got no errors
[04:48] <salvadorfl> i want to connect to my  brother's computer using ssh
[04:48] <XiaolinDraconis> i understand u now
[04:48] <XiaolinDraconis> there is also a group of same name
[04:48] <Onasu> Does anybody have a link to a good detailed document for installing Ubuntu in a drive partition? I am currently running Win XP and would like to install Ubuntu into a partitioned space that is not on the primary drive. Thanks
[04:48] <twolane> XiaolinDraconis: try chown -R user:user /media/
[04:49] <twolane> XiaolinDraconis: user being a group.
[04:49] <meoblast001> how do i specify a filesystem type when mounting a CD?
[04:49] <salvadorfl> iit gives me this error ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection refused
[04:49] <PeskyJ> meoblast001: -t to mount
[04:49] <PeskyJ> meoblast001: man mount
[04:49] <cchaos> bbs
[04:50] <salvadorfl> any body know how to fixit?
[04:50] <jblackhall> is anyone having trouble connecting to ubuntu servers for updates?  The main US server to be specific, I guess
[04:50] <jblackhall> launchpad as well
[04:50] <drowner> can someone recommend a music organiser/program thing
[04:50] <blacknred0> i have this error on thunderbird "warning: incompatible stripping characters and condition: SFX" any thoughts?
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> salvadorfl: has he setup port forwarding on his router (if he uses one)
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> drowner: amarok
[04:51] <drowner> that will COPY all my files from one disk and organise them somewhere else (like *gulp* itunes)
[04:51] <drowner> not amarok
[04:51] <XiaolinDraconis> twolane: what i am trying to do is become owner of my partitions and drives... plus give administrators read and write access
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> drowner: banshee
[04:51] <drowner> can banshee do that?
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> !players
[04:51] <mopoyo> STOP TALKING ABOUT WOW
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> !ipod
[04:52] <salvadorfl> dont have a router only modem
[04:52] <drowner> thanks ActionParsnip
[04:52] <yinlong> ice-nine,i use the command,and how to operate then?
[04:52] <drowner> i usually use rhythmbox, cause it seems nice and light
[04:52] <mopoyo> ActionParsnip, I have an ipod
[04:52] <ice-nine> yinlong, I'm running ubuntu, not kubuntu so may not be able to help.  But if I were to suggest, try opening synaptic, and entering kdebluetooth4 in the search, and deselecting the package to try and remove it.  After that, a reboot may be remove it for good.
[04:52] <drowner> but it doesn't actually MOVE the files into my library
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> salvadorfl: then make sure he's install openssh-server
[04:52] <drowner> and organise them
[04:52] <drowner> according to tag
[04:52] <sprockets2000> how do I make a folder hidden (NOT USING A . IN FRONT)
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> mopoyo: my comiserations
[04:52] <drowner> i have 'EasyTag' but i can't get that working with anything apart from mp3
[04:53] <yinlong> ice-nine,mine is ubuntu too.
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> sprockets2000: thats how yu do it
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> sprockets2000: in the linux OS, the dot means hidden
[04:54] <yinlong> ice-nine,i installed kdebluetooth4,but i can not display it.
[04:54] <mopoyo> ActionParsnip, you spelt comisserations wrong
[04:55] <Onasu> Does anybody have a link to a good detailed document for installing Ubuntu in a drive partition? I am currently running Win XP and would like to install Ubuntu into a partitioned space that is not on the primary drive. Thanks
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> mopoyo: you understood what i meant though so the language and spelling was successful
[04:55] <jua> sprockets2000 why you want another way to hide files?
[04:55] <frybye> PeskyJ: did you fix the problem..?
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> !dualboot
[04:55] <PeskyJ> frybye: no, I think the password stored is the hash of the passkey
[04:56] <ice-nine> yinlong, try removing the package via synaptic and see if it stops loading.
[04:56] <PeskyJ> frybye: so typing it into another device it does a hash of the hash (as if it were the passkey)
[04:56] <mopoyo> ActionParsnip, 0|< t|-|3|\|
[04:56] <twolane> XiaolinDraconis:  chown -R user:admin /media/ would give the admin group access. chmod may be necessary.  Windoze and the BIOS do though
[05:00] <histo> !ati > R0b0t1
[05:00] <mopoyo> It's the fat one with the click wheel and it doesn't have colour :)
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> GG111222: whats the output of: file /dev/scd0
[05:00] <histo> GG111222: are you sure it can't see it or the auto mount isnot working?
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> mopoyo: do you want a prize?
[05:00] <R0b0t1> histo: My problem is not with the cards, it is with the application to activate the driver.
[05:01] <mopoyo> !ot > ActionParsnip
[05:01] <GG111222> now here's the bad part. The computer with this problem is in another location
[05:01] <histo> !ohmy | mopoyo
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> !ot no onoe cares about your ipod > mopoyo
[05:02] <PeskyJ> frybye: guess I won't get the iphone connected tonight then :/ no 3G connection here
[05:02] <mopoyo> Can an iphone run ubuntu?
[05:02] <minazo> is there an option so that i can get the terminal to beep? i've tried Edit -> Preferences but I do not see an option to turn it off or on. using xterm.
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> GG111222: you can ssh over and run commands :)
[05:02] <frybye> PeskyJ: looks that way...
[05:03] <blacknred0> i have this error on thunderbird "warning: incompatible stripping characters and condition: SFX" any thoughts?
[05:03] <R0b0t1> I am unable to activate an ATI driver on my Mac. This is not really a hardware problem, it is just that the application that would otherwise allow me to do so freezes.
[05:03] <R0b0t1> The FGLRX, in particular.
[05:03] <epaphus> coz_, thanks
[05:04] <histo> R0b0t1: ati on a mac?
[05:04] <sifa> ae
[05:04] <R0b0t1> histo: Well, Ati on Ubuntu on an iMac :D
[05:04] <XiaolinDraconis> can some help me with a bash script
[05:04] <histo> R0b0t1: really didn't know they were using ati hardware
[05:04] <XiaolinDraconis> someone
[05:05] <histo> R0b0t1: well you can use ps aux to see if the installer is doing anythign or top
[05:05] <R0b0t1> histo: Oh, wait, for some odd reason the fairies fixed it...
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: wassup
[05:05] <R0b0t1> Time to restart.
[05:05] <R0b0t1> :S
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> R0b0t1: awesome :D
[05:05] <jua> R0bot1: where can i dl some fairies?
[05:06] <GG111222> The computer is not online. K3b says there is no drive. I'm ignorant so I was just hoping I might get a little info on what I might be able to try to the cd player working when I get home.
[05:06] <Mike_lifeguard> Anyone know good software to do screencasting? Specifically, I need a sane output file format, recording audio from mic, on-the-fly downscaling if possible and following the mouse pointer.
[05:06] <R0b0t1> jua: Hang out at highschools, people tend to sell fairy dust around there. I bet using that could summon some...
[05:06] <Luke__> anyone know if wine had a regression with wow this last patch? usually it runs awesome in ubuntu
[05:06] <jua> lol
[05:06] <XiaolinDraconis> Action: i PM'd you with the small script
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> GG111222: try a different burned
[05:07] <R0b0t1> Luke__: Which version? Ubuntu doesn't have the latest by default. (Latest being 1.1.18)
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> *burn app  soyr
[05:09] <Luke__> latest is 1.1.19 today but i have 1.1.18 and fps went to 10 i might regress to 1.1.16 seemed to work better
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> Luke__: do you have the wine repo version of wine?
[05:09] <histo> Luke__: i've had that happen before with wine
[05:10] <Guest45821> is it possible to make a laptop always have its webcam working without me re-enabling it (even after a restart) and to send that webcam footage LIVE to another computer of mine?
[05:10] <yinlong> is there a command that can help me to shut down my bluetooth directly?
[05:10] <Guest45821> yinlong, you want to shut down your computer using the keyboard?
[05:11] <Luke__> yeah i use the wine repo
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> Luke__: cool
[05:11] <Luke__> i'm just gonna roll it back though i hate messing with it lol
[05:11] <Luke__> just wondered if anyone else was having problems
[05:11] <Luke__> the winehq irc is nonresponsive
[05:11] <Luke__> lol
[05:12] <yinlong> Guest45821,i want to shut down my laptop's bluetooth.
[05:12] <Ketrel> Anyone, I really need help
[05:12] <clearscreen> !ask | Ketrel
[05:12] <sebsebseb> Ketrel: with?
[05:12] <Ketrel> I've done anything, but I cannot get my broadcom card "14e4:4324" to work at all (and clearscreen: I already asked it)
[05:12] <Ketrel> *done everything
[05:13] <ice-nine> yinlong, removing the package did not work?
[05:13] <Guest45821> yinlong, o thats another story; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=624094 maybe?
[05:13] <yinlong> ice-nine,i can't remove the via.
[05:14] <yinlong> ice-nine ,it returns that there is no such file.
[05:14] <XiaolinDraconis> anyone here good with shell scripts?
[05:15] <yinlong> which route should i come into?
[05:15] <GG111222> ActionParsnip, The device is actually a DVD writer. It worked fine using 8.04 and still works under windows and the BIOS recognizes the drive correctly but Ubuntu 8.1 acts like there is no burner installed in the computer. I will get the output of the command file /dev/scd0 when I can. What other information should I get and what might I try to be able to use the drive again? I apologize for my ignorance but about all I know how to
[05:15] <Luke__> i made one that made Xorg.config go bye bye on accident once lol
[05:15] <Xcell> kill it in processes?
[05:16] <jua> Xiaolin watcha need?
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> GG111222: could read through   dmesg | less
[05:16] <XiaolinDraconis> a little help with a simple script
[05:16] <XiaolinDraconis>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/148735/
[05:17] <XiaolinDraconis> wondering why it wont work
[05:17] <jua> cant you just pick at random directly from the directory?
[05:18] <XiaolinDraconis> i dont know i copied someones script and edited the directories
[05:19] <clouder`grr> how do I save all the packages I installed into a text or something for later use?
[05:19] <clouder`grr> to restore
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> clouder`grr: old debs are in /var/cache/apt
[05:20] <GG111222> Thanks ActionParsnip. When searched forums and other places most of the results I got were too numerous and not exactly related to the problem I am having. I appreciate the help.
[05:20] <clouder`grr> hmm, what if I dont' have the space and would just like to have a list of installed packages
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> !aptoncd
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> !clone
[05:20] <clouder`grr> or perhaps I cleaned out the cache
[05:20] <jua> Xiaolin
[05:21] <jua> try in line 9 replacing $ for $( and the last " for )"
[05:22] <XiaolinDraconis> #!/bin/bash
[05:22] <jua> also
[05:22] <clouder`grr> !automate
[05:22] <XiaolinDraconis> instead of /bin/sh
[05:22] <XiaolinDraconis> lol
[05:22] <cchaos> Ignore me Im reading............................
[05:22] <jua> lol
[05:23] <tt5786> hey all just a general question
[05:23] <derek> a noob question; i'm having a hard time with eclipse
[05:23] <jua> used that script sometime to rotate grub splashes
[05:23] <ironfroggy_> my ping avg is showing about 14 seconds. obviously my first question is, wtf?
[05:24] <tt5786> the weather function in Ubuntu. how to i get it to display my area (being Ballarat and not Melbourne) do i have to edit something somewhere
[05:24] <ironfroggy_> does anyone have a good tip or two for diagnosing this?
[05:24] <ironfroggy_> (wlan on a new machine)
[05:24] <darkschatten> #ubuntu-es
[05:27] <Mark_Jones> Hello guys I got everything working great on my new PC today, but Im wondering are there any pros or cons of running Ubuntu 64bit edition over 32bit edition? Im running a 2.2Ghz Quad Core 64bit Phenom system.Any opinions?
[05:27] <ZeZu> Mark_Jones,  there are a lot of both
[05:27] <Mark_Jones> hmm
[05:28] <bonez46> 64 bit will take advantage of the hardware..
[05:28] <ZeZu> Mark_Jones,  the first is some things are a bit more work to setup under x64,  flash etc
[05:28] <bonez46> better
[05:28] <PhotoJim> Mark_Jones: if using > 4GB RAM, 64-bit is necessary.  otherwise, it's really up to you.  Web browser Java has some issues with 64-bit mode.  That's the only issue that would hold me back from 64-bit mode, although honestly I do use it on my Athlon 64 notebook.
[05:28] <ZeZu> Mark_Jones, the second is some applications that are optimized will be faster with x64 where applicable
[05:28] <tt5786> does any one know how to add Ballarat to the weather function in Ubuntu
[05:28] <ice-nine> Mark_Jones, I used to run into problems with apps that work with 32 bit end up not working with 64 bit...
[05:28] <Radtoo> Mark_Jones: Most notably, 64bit is using more registers and supports direct addressing of more than 4GB ram
[05:29] <Equs> tt5786 right click on icon select preferences> location
[05:29] <cchaos> Right Im gonna kill my monitor :P
[05:29] <tt5786> i have done that and the only Victorian places are Melbourne and Richmond
[05:29] <ZeZu> you can solve most issues by using the 32b apps as long as you have the 32libraries it needs
[05:29] <Mark_Jones> ok as far as RAM goes Ubuntu is very lean on that so I only bought a matched pair of 1GB sticks for dual channel use.
[05:30] <Radtoo> Mark_Jones: Do you do any video encoding, 3d rendering, ...? (I'd guess not but who knows)
[05:30] <bonez46> what is dual channel use?
[05:30] <PhotoJim> tt5786: you'll have to select the closest one of those two to your location.  not all locations are included, unfortunately.  the larger, the more likely to be included.
[05:30] <Mark_Jones> So looks like package installation/availablility is the biggest issues as for as probs go.
[05:30] <Radtoo> Mark_Jones: Or mathematical analysis
[05:30] <ZeZu> Mark_Jones, then if your not doing anything terribly usefull with 64b applications,  32b runs just as well and a bit easier in some cases
[05:30] <Mark_Jones> I do use Handbrake GUI to convert DVD to my iPod video.
[05:30] <ironfroggy_> when a wireless cards "works" but constantly has 1-60 second ping times, where can one possibly look for a cause?
[05:30] <tt5786> ballarat is larger then richmond
[05:30] <Mark_Jones> Very fast on quad core. 8min from dvd to ipod.
[05:30] <Guest69282> Is anyone here thinking of using BackTrack 4.0?  It is now Debian-based, so should be a shorter learning curve.
[05:30] <ctendell> Hello I got the separate X screen running but how do i get to it? Like mouse over to it?
[05:31] <ZeZu> I dont know what backend Handbrake GUI uses, but it could be a bit faster on x64
[05:31] <Equs> tt5786  did youtype in your location
[05:31] <tt5786> is there a way to get it included
[05:31] <ZeZu> but if its already real quick
[05:31] <tt5786> yes i did
[05:31] <PhotoJim> tt5786: is ballarat a suburb of Melbourne, say?  I don't know Victoria geography that well.
[05:31] <tt5786> and it came up with nothing
[05:31] <Radtoo> Mark_Jones: Hmm... I don't know what that uses in the bakcend but most encoders ARE actually significantly faster in 64 bit mode
[05:31] <Mark_Jones> realy? oooh man I wanna try it.
[05:31] <tt5786> no it is Victoria's 3 largest city Melbourne, Geelong, Ballarat, Bendigo etc
[05:31] <Radtoo> Mark_Jones: For most other applications, a human can't actually notice the difference...
[05:31] <jua> Guest69282 has BT4 gone out of beta?
[05:31] <Equs> tt5786 that is all I know sorry
[05:32] <tt5786> dam
[05:32] <Guest69282> Jua: I think it is still in beta, but dunno when final is going to be released.
[05:32] <tt5786> is there any where on the web site i could look to get it added
[05:32] <rubydiamond> Hi guys
[05:32] <rubydiamond> how to I setup openvpn on my ubuntu
[05:32] <Mark_Jones> Ok ima go ahead and download the 64bit CD and give it a whirl. If all else fails ill restore my backup.
[05:32] <Mark_Jones> Thank you guys!
[05:32] <jua> BT is the absolute best livecd ever IMO
[05:33] <ice-nine> Hey, no better way to find out than to try...
[05:33] <PhotoJim> tt5786: not sure why they included Richmond and not Ballarat.
[05:33] <Guest69282> The one thing that was stopping me from making it my primary distro was that it was slackware based.
[05:33] <tt5786> nither i was hoping i could go around and fix it for the stat of Victoria
[05:33] <Guest69282> But now that BT4 is debian, it is a bit easier for an Ubuntu user to add the apps we need.
[05:33] <jua> Guest69282 is good news indeed the've debianized
[05:34] <Guest69282> Of course, then the quesiton is:  should we just use Ubuntu and apt-get the security apps, or the other way around....
[05:34] <bobbie4> I love the ubuntu and
[05:35] <tt5786> or is there some one i could email and let know
[05:35] <jua> i think it shouldn't be major diffs between either
[05:35] <ctendell> Hello I got the separate X screen running but how do i get to it? Like mouse over to it?
[05:36] <ctendell> IE ther eis no mouse pointer
[05:37] <PhotoJim> tt5786: presumably yes, but sorry, I'm not sure where.  truthfully, I checked it, my city was there, and that was the end of my thinking about it :)
[05:37] <tt5786> lol
[05:37] <tt5786> you in Australia
[05:37] <PhotoJim> tt5786: no, Canada.
[05:37] <tt5786> ahh
[05:38] <tt5786> yea well australia is all th way down here
[05:38] <tt5786> may be upgrading to 8.10
[05:38] <tt5786> will fix it
[05:38] <PhotoJim> tt5786: but I'm in a small city of 200K.  largest city in the area though.  so I guess the Ubuntu developers thought it should be there.
[05:38] <tt5786> yea
[05:38] <genii> PhotoJim: North Bay? ;)
[05:38] <ice-nine> PhotoJim, where are you in Canada?
[05:39] <tritium> !offtopic
[05:40] <Ch4d> hi all
[05:40] <PhotoJim> tt5786: I'm sure they'd give thought to adding Ballarat, as long as weather information is readily available.  I don't know what source is currently used.
[05:40] <lasivian> i'm trying to make a bluetooth dongle work, it detects my mouse, but the mouse doesn;t function
[05:40] <lasivian> a different bluetooth adapter and it works fine
[05:41] <tt5786> hmm do you know of any one of the people on the ubuntu team i should speak to
[05:42] <tt5786> well thanks for your help it is asking me to restart
[05:42] <tt5786> brb
[05:42] <PhotoJim> genii, ice-nine : answered by PM
[05:42] <PhotoJim> tt5786: no problem, good luck
[05:43] <theeclipse> Hello all, How can I find out if my Intel graphic driver is installed and its working or not ?
[05:44] <jdwarta> fn+esc
[05:44] <histo> theeclipse: glxinfo | grep render
[05:44] <cchaos> Ah thats better: 1280x1024 in 60hz
[05:44] <lee_> i've got a ppp connection set up over 3g but the speed it topping out at 11k - any ideas?
[05:44] <jdwarta> theeclipse: device manager
[05:44] <jdwarta> theeclipse: dxdiag
[05:45] <histo> jdwarta: no dxdiag on linux
[05:45] <theeclipse> jdwarta: Thanks man, what I got here is bunch of lines that say Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:45] <histo> theeclipse: did you try the comand I gave you
[05:45] <cchaos> Does anyone know how to clear this message:  This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>
[05:46] <histo> theeclipse: your probably using the old driver instead of the newer one due to the bugs with intel drivers and ubuntu.
[05:46] <PhotoJim> cchaos: /nick NewNickname
[05:46] <theeclipse> histo: oh sorry it was your reply that I sent to jdwarta
[05:46] <cchaos> getting rather annoying having to enter my password evrytime I come on here lol
[05:46] <histo> cchaos: you don't have to you can set up your client to do it.
[05:47] <cchaos> histo: how? Im using XChat-GNOME 0.24.1
[05:47] <duan> hi
[05:47] <histo> cchaos: under the settings for the server there is a spot for your nickserv password
[05:47] <jdwarta> what is the ubuntu equivalent of windows media player, or real player
[05:47] <theeclipse> histo: I executed that command that you gave me, rather those lines I also got this message "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig"
[05:47] <duan> yahoo
[05:47] <theeclipse> jdwarta: Amarok perhpas ?
[05:48] <jdwarta> theeclipse: i will try it.........
[05:48] <cchaos> histo: cant see that option
[05:48] <histo> theeclipse: the command is one line "glxinfo | grep render
[05:48] <histo> theeclipse: your looking for the line that says direct rendering
[05:48] <pyrak> i want to specify the filename that wget outputs to, but i don't want it to concatenate all of the data into one file.  which switch do i use?
[05:48] <ice-nine> Amarok 1.4 maybe.  I found Amarok 2.x a little lacking...
[05:48] <pyrak> -O does the unwanted concatenating...
[05:48] <histo> theeclipse: it should either be yes or no. But sounds like you have driver issues with your card. Which intel chipset do you have and what ubuntu are you running?
[05:49] <ice-nine> To get Amarok 1.4 installed in Jaunty, it was a pain.
[05:49] <pyrak> (ps: which channel should i go to for help with the command line and bash scripting)
[05:49] <coz_> pyrak,   #linux is one possiblity
[05:49] <histo> cchaos: its there on the server screen nickserv or password option.  Right below where you enter you nick I belive.  I dont' ahve xchat installed to check.
[05:49] <jdwarta> i'm using intrepid
[05:49] <brand0con> when I apt-get install a package that I already have, the terminal tells me about 70 packages, most of which i use, are no longer required and can be auto-removed
[05:49] <brand0con> how can i get these off the list other than removing them and reinstalling
[05:50] <jrq> hi can some1 help me with installing kubuntu
[05:50] <histo> cchaos: under the server password field
[05:50] <brand0con> im using debian but it shouldn't be any different
[05:50] <jrq> i used the normal disk and had a prob and tried the alternate disk and it install but then it says this error
[05:50] <histo> brand0con: sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:50] <theeclipse> histo: Im on Xubuntu and my Mother Board is 915 Express chipset
[05:51] <histo> brand0con: if they are packages you use then you removed a meta package that they depend on
[05:51] <cchaos> histo: got it now, thanks
[05:51] <histo> theeclipse: which versionof xubuntu run the command "cat /etc/issue"  no quotes ofcourse
[05:51] <jrq> an installation step failed you can try to run the failing item again from the menu or skip and choose something else the failing step is : select and install software
[05:51] <histo> cchaos: np
[05:51] <jrq> can someone please help me
[05:51] <brand0con> histo: so then these are positively packages i dont need?
[05:52] <bonez46> jrq: what do you need?
[05:52] <theeclipse> histo: Ubuntu 8.10
[05:52] <histo> brand0con: hard to say.  You said they are packages you use then I would say you need them.
[05:52] <jrq> i tried to install kubuntu and i had an error using the alternate disk
[05:52] <histo> !i915 | theeclipse
[05:52] <histo> ughh
[05:52] <jdwarta> jrq: I had loads of trouble installing ubuntu
[05:52] <brand0con> histo: i went through this before and it removed packages along the likes of gdm and openoffice.org*
[05:52] <histo> theeclipse: hold up let me check something should work out of the box I thought.
[05:52] <jrq> it said this
[05:52] <jrq> an installation step failed you can try to run the failing item again from the menu or skip and choose something else the failing step is : select and install software
[05:52] <theeclipse> histo: Thanks a lot
[05:53] <jdwarta> jrq: do you have XP installed?
[05:53] <brand0con> perhaps ill do it and just list the packages it removes and install them afterward as needed
[05:53] <bonez46> what are you installing?
[05:53] <jrq> i have tried to install ubuntu and kubuntu like 8 times now but i end up getting an error
[05:53] <jrq> i had xp installed i uninstalled i t
[05:53] <jrq> i just partioned my disk
[05:53] <histo> theeclipse: what about "lsmod | grep i915"  see if it shows the i925 module loaded
[05:53] <bonez46> so you have win xp on your machine.right?
[05:53] <jrq> yea
[05:53] <histo> jrq: what is the error?
[05:54] <jdwarta> jrq: idk.........do you have XP
[05:54] <jdwarta> I am having trouble with swapfile swap on booting up ubuntu
[05:54] <histo> jrq: sounds like you may have a bad cd.  On the boot menu there is an otption to check the media
[05:54] <jrq> an installation step failed you can try to run the failing item again from the menu or skip and choose something else the failing step is : select and install software
[05:54] <theeclipse> histo: Nothing :/
[05:54] <jdwarta> jrq:  check the media first
[05:54] <jrq> yea i have xp
[05:54] <jrq> i check the cd and it is fine
[05:54] <histo> theeclipse: well the driver isn't loaded for your card
[05:54] <jdwarta> jrq: i got 2 bad downloads
[05:54] <jrq> and i have hash checked it to
[05:55] <jrq> too*
[05:55] <lee_>  no one have any ideas why my ppp connection is so slow?
[05:55] <theeclipse> histo: should I get it from Intel? or search the community ?
[05:55] <histo> theeclipse: no its on the machine already just trying to figure out why its not loading I know that driver is buggy I thought.
[05:56] <theeclipse> histo: Thanks man
[05:56] <jrq> cuz be4 i was getting this error telling me init not found
[05:56] <jrq> that was with another cd
[05:56] <jdwarta> jrq: try booting XP
[05:56] <jrq> and i had this ubuntu cd that installed it but then hangs the comp at the end with the brown background
[05:56] <jrq> when i restart the comp its like nothing was on it
[05:57] <jrq> same thing with a kubuntu disk
[05:57] <jdwarta> jrq: insert the linux cd and select the "install alongside windows " button
[05:57] <histo> jrq:try doing a media check
[05:57] <jrq> can get rid of windows after i install linux on it ?
[05:57] <jrq> i did do a media
[05:57] <jrq> check it passes it
[05:57] <bonez46> jrq: do you need windows around?
[05:57] <bonez46> why not just install linux on your entire drive?
[05:58] <jrq> i dont want windows
[05:58] <tt5786> ok back
[05:58] <jrq> im fine with having just linux on it
[05:58] <jdwarta> jrq: that simplifies things
[05:58] <jrq> but ubuntu keeps giving me errors
[05:58] <jdwarta> jrq: is XP installed right now?
[05:58] <jrq> i picked the resize option tho
[05:58] <jrq> yea it is @ installed
[05:58] <jrq> shud i uninstall it ?
[05:58] <bonez46> well, if yo uhave saved all your data from windows. just run linux install from your disk and have it take over the whole hard drive
[05:58] <jdwarta> jrq: boot XP
[05:58] <jdwarta> jrq: lol
[05:59] <jrq> ok
[05:59] <jdwarta> jrq: and then go to my Computer and right-click on drive C:
[05:59] <jdwarta> jrq: click properties
[05:59] <sdwrage> Hey all
[05:59] <jrq> rite
[05:59] <jdwarta> jrq: and under the tools tab, click to format the drive
[06:00] <jrq> ok
[06:00] <jdwarta> this will completely purge the drive
[06:00] <histo> jdwarta: jrq The problem is mostlikely his media not the partitioning
[06:00] <sdwrage> im a newb to linux but need to setup a cron on Ubuntu Intrepid... could someone help me out with that?
[06:00] <bonez46> format with windows still running?
[06:00] <histo> sdwrage: what does the cron job need to do?
[06:00] <sdwrage> need a cron to hit a php file every minute
[06:00] <jdwarta> i think so
[06:00] <jdsandeson> may be a bad hd, windows will work on hd w some errors but linux won't tolerate an error in track 0
[06:00] <jdwarta> my friend did it and told me about it
[06:00] <jrq> i tried using different cds, dvds
[06:00] <minazo> Anyone know of how to get the terminal to beep under Xubuntu?
[06:00] <histo> sdwrage: every minute ugghhh What does the php file do?
[06:00] <jrq> but same thing
[06:01] <histo> minazo: ctrl+g
[06:01] <jrq> i had this on disk hang on me after installation
[06:01] <jdwarta> jrq: have you run a disk scan
[06:01] <jdwarta> jrq: on drive C
[06:01] <jrq> no
[06:01] <jully> http://gucken.deviantart.com/
[06:01] <histo> minazo: or type in beep should play a beep
[06:01] <lobo> program that I want to aplication not start in ubuntu ?
[06:01] <jdwarta> jrq: you must defrag and scan the HD b4 you try installing ubuntu
[06:01] <jrq> ok
[06:01] <histo> sdwrage: here is an excellent howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[06:02] <jrq> let me try it again
[06:02] <jrq> thanks for ur help
[06:02] <jdwarta> jrq: np
[06:02] <santana_> hi there
[06:02] <jrq> just out of curiousity does any1 kno a place in toronto
[06:02] <jrq> where i can get linux installed
[06:02] <jdwarta> jrq: no
[06:02] <histo> jrq: there are lugs
[06:02] <jrq> lugs?
[06:02] <jdwarta> i know a place in Alaska..........my house :-D
[06:02] <jrq> lol
[06:03] <histo> jrq: linux user groups
[06:03] <santana_> I have a problem connection to a wireless network, for which I've already worked around, but I want to understand why
[06:03] <histo> jrq: http://www.cluecan.ca/taxonomy_menu/10/201/173
[06:03] <jdwarta> jrq: idk of any
[06:03] <sdwrage> thx histo
[06:03] <jdwarta> jrq: ........not that i have ever looked
[06:03] <santana_> it's something related to avahi
[06:03] <jrq> thanks
[06:04] <jrq> well if it doesnt work ill ask u guys again appreciate the help
[06:04] <jrq> :)
[06:04] <santana_> my wireless interface is not getting an address (I'm using DHCP)
[06:04] <santana_> an IP address, I mean
[06:04] <tt5786> is there any one i can speak to, to add cities to the weather function on ubuntu
[06:04] <histo> jrq: just google lug toronto there are tons of groups near major cities like that.
[06:04] <histo> jrq: You can meet up they will help you getting going or you can always ask questions here.
[06:04] <lobo> alguien sabe una aplicacion para cancelar que arranquen programas en ubuntu?
[06:04] <santana_> After googling a bit, it seems that this is a common problem
[06:05] <histo> santana_: are you using encryption on yoru network?
[06:05] <santana_> can anybody shed more light on this issue?
[06:05] <histo> !es | lobo
[06:05] <santana_> lobo:  ??
[06:05] <santana_> histo: I'm using WEP
[06:05] <minazo> echo -ne "\a" should play a beep for me, right?
[06:05] <jdwarta> tt5786: click on the time in the menubar
[06:05] <tt5786> !en | lobo
[06:05] <histo> santana_: well most likely the wep key isnt' correct
[06:05] <tt5786> done all that and all that is there is Melbourne/Victoria
[06:05] <histo> santana_: what type of network card though?
[06:05] <jdwarta> tt5786: and click preferences
[06:05] <lobo> ok thanks
[06:06] <jdwarta> tt5786: i mean.......right-click on it
[06:06] <zack> i have 8.10 with nvidia (prop) drivers (v 180). dula screen setup. how can I make/set each new window to appear on a particular display?
[06:06] <jdwarta> tt5786: and prefs
[06:06] <tt5786> ok
[06:06] <histo> !dualscreen | zack
[06:06] <tt5786> ok
[06:06] <histo> !twinview | zack
[06:06] <santana_> histo: I'm the network admin
[06:06] <jdwarta> tt5786: you should be able to click a locations tab
[06:06] <histo> santana_: what type of network card is it in the machine?
[06:06] <jdwarta> tt5786: then just add locations
[06:07] <histo> santana_: youc an find out by running lspci
[06:07] <tt5786> yea then add and when i do this i type ballarat and it is not found
[06:07] <santana_> Proxim
[06:07] <histo> santana_: need to know the chipset of the wireless card
[06:07] <santana_> histo: ah, ok
[06:07] <AK_Dave> lspci
[06:07] <santana_> I don't have it at hand ...
[06:07] <histo> santana_: run lspci on the machine it will tell you
[06:07] <santana_> but I can see from the logs
[06:08] <santana_> that the NIC actually asks for an IP address
[06:08] <histo> santana_: you don't have the machine on hand?
[06:08] <santana_> it just arrives late
[06:08] <histo> santana_: well the time out on dhcp is like 50seconds I thought
[06:08] <santana_> and then avahi-ipd assigns it an IP address
[06:08] <santana_> histo: exactly.
[06:08] <histo> santana_: What chipset?
[06:08] <zack> histo, i know this, i already set a primary display there. anyway, if i click a shift-del on a dile on the desktop, it pops up the confirmation box on the other screen (which is my tv, and is not always on)
[06:09] <Brack10> I'm leaving ubuntu temporarily....bye for now I'll miss everyone
[06:09] <zack> dile=file
[06:09] <histo> zack: then the problem is?
[06:09] <jdsandeson> anyone know how to install vm ware?
[06:10] <santana_> histo: I'll come back tomorrow with the chipset, sorry. I don't have it.
[06:10] <zack> histo, i need to  know how to configure so this popup, and any new window appears on the primary screen
[06:10] <santana_> histo: but thanks for your time
[06:10] <histo> santana_: i've seen this behavior with card that need their firmware
[06:10] <MinusSeven> how much different is the alternate install process to the normal one?
[06:10] <histo> santana_: like the broadcom chipset
[06:10] <histo> !broadcom | santana_
[06:10] <jdwarta> does anyone know how to skip the swapfile swap on boot
[06:10] <MinusSeven> i'm having a problem getting the boot loader installed with the beta
[06:10] <histo> !swap > jdwarta
[06:10] <histo> MinusSeven: the beta is discussed in #ubuntu+1
[06:11] <reid__> hello friends
[06:11] <santana_> histo: thanks
[06:11] <shawn__> Can anyone point me in the right direction for loading the gspca module in 2.6.27-11 ?
[06:11] <histo> santana_: np
[06:11] <reid__> I have been un-banned
[06:11] <reid__> =)
[06:11] <tt5786> so no one knows who i can talk to about this
[06:11] <histo> shawn__: have you tried modprobe?
[06:12] <shawn__> modprobe shows FATAL. Tried compile, complanes of header file.
[06:12] <reid__> anyone need help?
[06:12] <reid__> that isn't already being helped
[06:12] <jdwarta> me!!!
[06:12] <histo> tt5786: I think you can use any location
[06:13] <shawn__> supposedly the module was intergrated into the new kernel
[06:13] <reid__> jdwarta: what's going on?
[06:13] <jdwarta> reid__: do you know how to skip the swapfile swap on boot?
[06:13] <reid__> jdwarta: I'm not sure what you mean, but there should be a GRUB command for it
[06:14] <jdwarta> reid__: i timed it: that process has taken about 40min every time i boot
[06:14] <ShackTiDe> Hi all. I want to connect my HP 1020 to ubuntu 8.04 BUT i cannot upload my printer's firmware to /dev/usblp0. How can upload my firmware ??? I have numerous usb devices?
[06:14] <jdwarta> reid__: i found a temp fix
[06:14] <histo> tt5786: nvm I see what you mean if you right click on the weather applet then go to about. You can click credits and gives you email addresses for the developers
[06:14] <reid__> jdwarta: what is it doing?
[06:14] <remu> Hello everyone, I am looking at a javascript from a Thunderbird Extension. I was wondering, is there someway to check for the users architecture?
[06:14] <jdwarta> reid__: i can press ctrl+alt+del to skip it, and ubuntu boots normaly
[06:14] <tt5786> thanks histo
[06:15] <reid__> jdwarta: i see
[06:15] <reid__> jdwarta: does it cause any problems after boot?
[06:15] <jdwarta> reid__: no
[06:15] <ShackTiDe> Does anyone understand the USB ports in the newer kernels? How can I access my usb device???
[06:15] <reid__> jdwarta: what is it attempting to do during boot?
[06:15] <jdwarta> reid__: what do u mean?
[06:16] <reid__> jdwarta: like, what is it attempting to do with the swap during boot, that takes 40 minutes
[06:16] <OvernightPR> ShackTiDe: mount it?
[06:16] <jdwarta> it boots normaly untill it gets to swapfile swap....that process takes about 40 min, then it takes about 15sec to finish the boot
[06:16] <ShackTiDe> OvernightPR: this is a printer :)
[06:16] <Metal|AFK> bai
[06:16] <ShackTiDe> I want to upload the firmware only OvernightPR
[06:16] <histo> ShackTiDe: you can use lsusb to see if its detected byhotplug
[06:16] <reid__> jdwarta: gimme one sec, i'm going to do a little research, maybe I can help u
[06:17] <ShackTiDe> histo it is
[06:17] <jdwarta> reid__: unless i use the ctrl+alt+del ..........then swapfile swap takes about 2 sec
[06:17] <ShackTiDe> I see it lsusb
[06:17] <epaphus> hi guys.. ubuntu has an icon to connect to networks.. wireless, wired and vpn... why is that the vpn options are gray?? how do i enable this?
[06:17] <OvernightPR> histo: beat me to it
[06:17] <ShackTiDe> but how do I access it?
[06:17] <sdwrage> ok... so I added my cron to my crontab using sudo crontab -e and adding 0,1 * * * *  php /var/www/myapp/index.php ... nothing... am I missing something?
[06:17] <reid__> jdwarta: how did you install ubuntu
[06:17] <histo> ShackTiDe: what is it?
[06:17] <ShackTiDe> how do I upload my firmware like this: cat myfirmware > /dev/usblp0 (this was for ubuntu < 7.10 )
[06:18] <reid__> jdwarta: did you do it via wubi?  windows installer?
[06:18] <histo> ShackTiDe: what type of usb device is it?
[06:18] <daurnimator> hi all
[06:18] <daurnimator> my audio isn't working
[06:18] <histo> !sound > daurnimator
[06:19] <daurnimator> It was working until suspend/resume I think
[06:19] <redopinion> After installing a new program and restarting my computer, everything - toolbars, menu icons, fonts, really everything - turned giant size! Like three times the normal size, and I can't figure out how to fix it..
[06:19] <daurnimator> this is on an eee 1000h
[06:19] <jdwarta> reid__: i installed it from XP
[06:19] <reid__> jdwarta: I need to know how you installed ubuntu to help you
[06:19] <reid__> jdwarta:  I see
[06:19] <reid__> jdwarta: you installed within XP?  using wubi?
[06:19] <jdwarta> reid__: sry, i was googling  more
[06:19] <jdwarta> reid__: idk
[06:19] <OvernightPR> daurimator: my EEE pc was the same way when I installed Ubuntu
[06:20] <reid__> jdwarta: did you install within XP?  or did you install on boot
[06:20] <OvernightPR> daurimator you looked in the volume control panel I assume?
[06:20] <daurnimator> the menu->system->prefs->audio test buttons have an error when I use them:
[06:20] <hexoroid> is there anyway to download something with curl ?
[06:20] <histo> sdwrage: check your usage of the time there in your command looks wrong hold on let me check
[06:20] <jdwarta> reid__: i was in XP, put the CD in, selected install alongside windows, then when i rebooted, i chose ubuntu
[06:20] <daurnimator> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect: Connection terminated
[06:20] <reid__> jdwarta: I can help you, give me one minute
[06:20] <theeclipse> histo: Sorry again, im trying to compile DRI 915 drivers, it asks for Kernel Modules.. does it mean Kernel-Headers ?
[06:21] <epaphus> hi guys.. ubuntu has an icon to connect to networks.. wireless, wired and vpn... why is that the vpn options are gray?? how do i enable this?
[06:21] <histo> theeclipse: it should work with kernel headers yes.  but you shouldn't have to compile that you might want to ask on the forums.
[06:22] <histo> sdwrage: you need something like * /1 * * * * php blah blah that would be every minute
[06:22] <daurnimator> anyway, how do I go about getting my sound working again after resume?
[06:22] <daurnimator> I tried restarting alsa, same prob
[06:22] <theeclipse> histo: you mean it is already included in my Xubuntu?
[06:22] <JoshuaRL> epaphus: does it let you configure vpn connecton?
[06:22] <jdwarta> reid__: in my boot folder there is a folder called "grub"
[06:22] <daurnimator> also restarted pulseaudio
[06:22] <ShackTiDe> histo: USB bus 7 device 1
[06:23] <histo> theeclipse: it should be. I don't know alot about the i915 driver though but you should be using xorg-xserver-video-intel for a driver
[06:23] <histo> theeclipse: you can "lsmod | grep intel"  or
[06:23] <ShackTiDe> how do I cat my file to this usb??? histo
[06:23] <histo> theeclipse: "lsmod | grep i915"  to see if a driver is loaded
[06:23] <epaphus> JoshuaRL, it doesnt.. should it?
[06:23] <histo> ShackTiDe: what is the usb device? a storage device?
[06:24] <JoshuaRL> epaphus: do you have a vpn to connect to, or are you just wanting to know how it works?
[06:24] <ShackTiDe> histo it is a printer and I need to upload my firmware before printing. It won't start otherwise
[06:24] <theeclipse> histo: i810 is already loaded but I dunno if I should load the 915 rather than 810
[06:24] <reid__> jdwarta: there should be
[06:24] <histo> theeclipse: well you can lspci and make sure you have a i915
[06:24] <reid__> jdwarta: give me a moment
[06:25] <jdwarta> reid__: ok
[06:25] <epaphus> JoshuaRL, i have a vpn connection i want to configure...
[06:25] <histo> ShackTiDe: hold up let me see if I can find the /dev interface if there even is one anymore
[06:25] <theeclipse> histo:  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[06:25] <Ralphi>  How many people here use rhythmbox?
[06:25] <sdwrage> histo, can I PM?
[06:26] <histo> sdwrage: sure
[06:26] <daurnimator> anyone please help with audio?
[06:26] <ShackTiDe> histo: how could they remove the good old /dev/usblp0 :(
[06:26] <histo> theeclipse: thats wierd you my want to ask on the forums I'm sure someone has the same intel card
[06:26] <histo> ShackTiDe: well everything went ot hotplug
[06:26] <theeclipse> histo: For sure.. thanks :)
[06:26] <histo> ShackTiDe: but if you've already loaded the firmware i'm sure its still there
[06:28] <jdwarta> reid__: do you think this fix would be safe?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=501953&page=2
[06:28] <jdwarta> reid__: check the last post
[06:29] <jmatrix> yo dev source mod
[06:29] <ShackTiDe> I will trouble shoot in detail. Thanks histo
[06:29] <Brack10> Ubuntu is detecting my DVD RW drive as a CD RW/DVD ROM drive.....how can I fix this?>
[06:30] <bosco> how would i go about booting a Mac osx in ubuntu??????????
[06:32] <daurnimator> bosco, as a permanent switch?
[06:33] <adante> hi guys, when i try to boot a 2.6.27-11-generic kernel my system just stops -- but 2.6.27-5-generic seems to work fine
[06:33] <adante> should i bother trying to fix this or can i just keep using 2.6.27-5 ?
[06:33] <bosco> daurnimator, no as running ubuntu but inside of it running osx
[06:33] <JoshuaRL> epaphus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient  that might help
[06:33] <JoshuaRL> adante: can you boot into recovery mode on -11 and see if you get any errors?
[06:34] <daurnimator> bosco, you'll need something like vmware for that
[06:34] <daurnimator> or parrelels
[06:35] <daurnimator> bosco, virtualbox is a free/os program that will do it
[06:37] <Brack10> Ubuntu is detecting my DVD RW drive as a CD RW/DVD ROM drive.....how can I fix this?>
[06:38] <meoblast001> Brack10, i don't know much.... but does it let you burn DVD's?
[06:38] <JoshuaRL> Brack10: have you had any problems because of this?  im pretty sure that DVD-RWs can play and burn CDs
[06:39] <meglo> How would I determine why my Ubuntu(Hardy Heron 8.04 LTS w/ latest updates) is having applications crash here and there and doing a hard freeze(keyboard leds blinking, total lockup). It has gotten much worse than it was previously despite updates... it could be hardware.
[06:39] <adante> JoshuaRL: hm actually seems to be booting fine now.. maybe some other system instability heh :/ thanks
[06:39] <bobbie4__> I love the ubuntu
[06:39] <Brack10> No it's not detecting my DVD burning capability
[06:39] <meglo> How could I find out what hardware it would be? Logsfiles show nothing.
[06:39] <JoshuaRL> adante: cool.
[06:39] <Brack10> meoblas001: no
[06:39] <Brack10> JoshuaRL: ^^^
[06:39] <JoshuaRL> adante: if you have any more issues, you can do that to see what you can find.
[06:40] <huwenfeng> hi, i want to use fdisk to delete one partition, and add 2 new partition! and i found that, when i delete /dev/sda5, the old /dev/sda6 become /dev/sda5! and in /etc/fstab, it seems to be using UUID. after i repartition the disk, will my system be all right?
[06:40] <huwenfeng> by the way, i am using Ubuntu 8.04 LTS
[06:41] <JoshuaRL> Brack10: what apps have you tried?  and are you sure your media is good?
[06:42] <Brack10> JoshuaRL:brasero, yes it's good I just purchased it...doesn't detect it....places menu declares it as a CD-RW/DVD ROM
[06:42] <d^-^b> good nite
[06:43] <foxbuntu> oly562, this is for ubuntu support, not a dating service
[06:43] <foxbuntu> oly562, go hit chat rooms if you want that
[06:43] <x-jd-x> is anyone here running compiz with emerald themes?
[06:43] <d^-^b> -.-
[06:44] <meglo> How would I determine why my Ubuntu(Hardy Heron 8.04 LTS w/ latest updates) is having applications crash here and there and doing a hard freeze(keyboard leds blinking, total lockup). It has gotten much worse than it was previously despite updates... it could be hardware. Here is my screwy dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/148746/
[06:44] <oly562> x-jd-x: i tried compiz, seems to be not working well with this card i use, would like to try emerald, but i dont have time to mess with gui at present
[06:44] <vintty> Hello everyone. my issue: I can't resume the session after putting my intrepid Ubuntu to either SUSPEND or HIBERNATE. I get an error message after I (move the mouse or hit a key) saying          "FW HOST 0 Self ID outside of boot sequence"               which displays only momentarily. The machine then remains idle and unresponsive and I have to force reboot. Any suggestions?
[06:44] <JoshuaRL> foxbuntu: is oly562 sending you inappropriate messages via PM?
[06:45] <foxbuntu> JoshuaRL, yes, he thinks this is a dating service or something
[06:45] <JoshuaRL> !admin | oly562
[06:45] <Mike_lifeguard> please don't use that magic word ^_^
[06:46] <tritium> !pm | oly562
[06:46] <Mike_lifeguard> If I wanted a text editor comparable to notepad++ what would I use in ubuntu? Specifically I need regex search+replace and syntax highlighting would be nice
[06:47] <ziroday> Mike_lifeguard: vim, emacs, gedit, kate
[06:47] <mib_f22su71u> Quick question about chmod. Will the -R option do what I want, if what I want is to change that directory, all its subdirectories, and files within those directories?
[06:47] <oly562> !pm | foxbuntu
[06:47] <ziroday> mib_f22su71u: yes
[06:47] <tritium> oly562: warning
[06:47] <AK_Dave> vintty: Ubuntu Intrepid, suspend problem. Gotcha. Tell me: what video card model, chipset, and what driver or kernel module are you using?
[06:47] <oly562> dont bother me, im busy
[06:47] <ziroday> mib_f22su71u: -R stands for recursive :)
[06:47] <foxbuntu> ok...who is the admin in here?
[06:48] <JoshuaRL> ziroday: foxbuntu and oly562 are having issues
[06:48] <mib_f22su71u> ziroday: Yeah, just checking to be cautious. Thanks.
[06:48] <AK_Dave> Mike: vi
[06:48] <foxbuntu> JoshuaRL, thank you.
[06:48] <ziroday> JoshuaRL: I am not an op
[06:48] <JoshuaRL> ziroday: alright, just recognised you
[06:48] <Ultraputz> is there a way to bring up the shutdown/restart/logout dialog from the commandline ?
[06:48] <foxbuntu> sorry, I meant tritium thank you
[06:49] <AK_Dave> something like sudo shutdown?
[06:49] <tritium> foxbuntu: no worries
[06:49] <drmrhorse> sudo shutdown now
[06:49] <JoshuaRL> tritium: thanks
[06:49] <wv56xC5YS> hey guys, I'm having trouble installing ubntu on my laptop
[06:49] <AK_Dave> I prefer 'reboot'
[06:49] <tritium> oly562: heed the warning, or next time it'll be a ban
[06:50] <drmrhorse> you can put a time in place of the now part
[06:50] <wv56xC5YS> when I try to boot live or install I can't get to a graphical desktop
[06:50] <tritium> JoshuaRL: sure
[06:50] <oly562> i dont see how saying hello is bad...
[06:50] <Ketrel> I'm completely stumped with this broadcom card, I've done everything I could think of and could find.
[06:50] <wv56xC5YS> I've tried startx
[06:50] <drmrhorse> i do sudo shutdown -r now for reboot
[06:50] <wv56xC5YS> and a bunch of other stuff
[06:50] <AK_Dave> Ultra: 'man reboot' and see what it says
[06:50] <Ultraputz> i'm looking for a way to bring that up, or, in effect, fire shutdown from a button (in userspace, therefore, without a root priv)
[06:50] <JoshuaRL> tritium: oly562
[06:50] <tritium> JoshuaRL: I see him/her
[06:51] <vintty> AK_Dave: (I'm a total noob. I'm from a mac os x background and just put ubuntu on my dad's pc as I couldn't upkeep a version of XP anymore so apologies if my knowledge of ubuntu is lacking.) From what I can tell the video: nvidia gforce 4 MX440. not sure of the chipset or kernal driver sorry mate.
[06:51] <sh1> hi, i'm trying to install Ubuntu to my hard disk, but the partitioner only shows one disk, and I want to install it to another disk
[06:51] <oly562> has anyone gotten compiz to work properly with an Ati card?
[06:51] <wv56xC5YS> I have on my desktop
[06:51] <n8tuser> Ketrel-> broadcom 43xx is infamous
[06:51] <wv56xC5YS> I think...
[06:51] <ravennium> Anyone remember what was the setting in Compiz-Fusion that brings back the "top bar" of the KDE applications in Gnome (I'm using Ubuntu 8.10)???
[06:51] <AK_Dave> Ultra: I don't think you're going to, nor do you really want to, fire something like that from userspace without sudo. You could, of course, edit your sudoers to basically unprotect your system.
[06:51] <oly562> i sorta had it working, i didnt get the 3d mode to work though
[06:52] <drmrhorse> my compiz is working on my ati mobile radeon out of the box
[06:52] <vintty> AK_DAVE: it's an amd processor though..
[06:52] <n8tuser> sh1-> are you on a livecd?
[06:52] <drmrhorse> also, compiz real
[06:52] <daurnimator> someone please help me with audio after resume??
[06:52] <sh1> n8tuser: yes
[06:52] <oly562> drmrhorse: mind if i take a look at your configs?
[06:52] <Ultraputz> AK_Dave, so there's no way to bring up the usual shutdown / restart / logout dialog from commandline or via a message on dbus or something?
[06:52] <Ketrel> n8tuser: is there anything that can be done?
[06:52] <drmrhorse> xorg?
[06:52] <n8tuser> sh1 what does sudo fdisk -l   shows?
[06:52] <oly562> maybe i did something cheesy, havent noticed it yet
[06:52] <AK_Dave> vintty: lspci -vnn should tell you want you want about your video hardware. lsmod should tell you what kernel modules are loaded.
[06:52] <Ketrel> like completely out of the ordinary
[06:52] <oly562> i dont think the xorg is the problem
[06:52] <wv56xC5YS> I'll check
[06:52] <wv56xC5YS> wait
[06:52] <oly562> i compared with a few others... last week
[06:52] <wv56xC5YS> damn, that's not me :'(
[06:53] <n8tuser> Ketrel-> umm last resort is ndiswrapper
[06:53] <AK_Dave> Ultra: I won't say it can't be done, but it really ought not be done without root privs.
[06:53] <vintty> AK_Dave: cheers mate, i won't be a sec.
[06:53] <sh1> n8tuser: when i load the partitioner by itself, it shows both HDs.  but ubiquity only gives me the choice of one HD
[06:53] <oly562> looked fine, fglrx driver
[06:53] <Ultraputz> AK_Dave, so, what calls it up, assuming i launched it from a setuid root script?
[06:53] <n8tuser> sh1 you are doing something tricky here and you are not telling us the whole story..
[06:53] <oly562> glx as well mod loded
[06:54] <drmrhorse> i know that they changed the driver with jaunty for me
[06:54] <AK_Dave> daurn: if you're like me, your audio after resume is borked IF you had the temerity to leave Banshee or Rhythmbox open when you suspended.
[06:54] <oly562> im running hardy
[06:54] <suyog> hello
[06:54] <drmrhorse> oops, i thought i was in +1, its late for me
[06:54] <troopperi> sh1: is that other disk ntfs parition?
[06:54] <vintty> AK_Dave: I got a lot of info pop up. Would you like me to PM you? Or is there a specific line I should look for?
[06:54] <AK_Dave> Ultra: type please 'man reboot'. The command you want is reboot, but you probably want to specify some settings on it.
[06:54] <JoshuaRL> jdwarta: did reid__ come back and answer your issue?
[06:55] <Ketrel> n8tuser: when I said I tried everything, that included ndiswrapper, and no luck >.<
[06:55] <wv56xC5YS> So when I try to install 8.10 or run it live I can't get a graphical desktop
[06:55] <Ultraputz> AK - sure, i meant, what brings up the graphical requester?
[06:55] <AK_Dave> vintty: No need. Just scroll through and find what is relevant.
[06:55] <ziroday> wv56xC5YS: errors?
[06:55] <sh1_> n8tuser: sorry, xchat crashed :(
[06:55] <sana> hello
[06:55] <wv56xC5YS> I just get a black screen
[06:55] <magician157> could anyone please help me with port forwarding?
[06:55] <sana> i can't seem to get java working on my firefox
[06:55] <n8tuser> Ketrel -> dont know then, other than getting a different kind of card and driver
[06:55] <wv56xC5YS> then I do alt+f1 to get to a shell
[06:55] <wv56xC5YS> uhh
[06:55] <wv56xC5YS> if I try startx
[06:55] <n8tuser> sh1 you are doing something tricky here and you are not telling us the whole story..
[06:55] <AK_Dave> Ultra: I don't know what brings up the graphical requestor. I thought you just wanted a shutdown from the command line.
[06:56] <sana> is there anyway to find out if I have it or not?
[06:56] <Ultraputz> AK - i was hoping there was a rootless way to bring up that requester in userspace
[06:56] <wv56xC5YS> if I try startx I get "Saw signal 11. Server aborting."
[06:56] <Ketrel> n8tuser: yeah, that's not an option :( only thing left on my list is Windows.
[06:56] <Ultraputz> since the user is never required to enter an administrative password to shutdown from the menu
[06:56] <ravennium> magician157, http://portforward.com/ ??
[06:56] <ziroday> wv56xC5YS: please keep your responses on one line and address. Can you do sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop and then sudo /etc/init.d/?dm start please
[06:56] <n8tuser> Ketrel -> ubuntu version?
[06:56] <Ketrel> n8tuser: Ibex
[06:57] <xi_> I'm using one of those internal made external hdd's via eSATA port and for some reason it keeps closing out the videos i play from there
[06:57] <magician157> ravennium, i do not use any router. i connect to the university network with a LAN wire and dot1x authentication
[06:57] <ziroday> xi_: errors?
[06:57] <xi_> it display no errors
[06:57] <xi_> it just closes the video out in mplayer
[06:58] <ziroday> xi_: can you run totem from the command line, and try to play the video
[06:58] <xi_> it was working fine untill i downloaded some packages
[06:58] <n8tuser> Ketrel -> there were some howto or troubleshooting posting re broadcom newer cards, try to  see if you can google for it
[06:58] <sana> i can't seem to get java working on my firefox...is there anyway to find out if I have it or not?
[06:58] <xi_> i downloaded, kubuntu-dekstop and Xubuntu-desktop
[06:58] <troopperi> sana: www.java.com
[06:58] <magician157> i have disabled the firewall on my computer using firestarter, but the problem still persists. cant seed on bittorrent clients, even though downloading is fine
[06:58] <ziroday> xi_: okay, I need that error. Please do as I have asked
[06:58] <ravennium> magician157, I really don't see how you could control the ports then. Isn't that what the university does?
[06:59] <n8tuser> sana http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[06:59] <wv56xC5YS> ziroday It goes to a black screen then back to the shell 4 times
[06:59] <wv56xC5YS> ugh, how do I pm somebody?
[06:59] <AK_Dave> magician: I think your university IT guys have charge of this.
[06:59] <Ketrel> n8tuser: This is not a new card, it's an old one, and I've tried everything google turned up
[06:59] <JoshuaRL> ravennium: since its on their network, they might have throttled torrent traffic
[06:59] <wv56xC5YS> nvm, got it
[06:59] <oly562>  /msg username message
[06:59] <n8tuser> Ketrel -> then none more i can point you to, sorry
[06:59] <JoshuaRL> wv56xC5YS: click their name.  alternately, right click and open query
[07:00] <xi_> ziroday: could not read from resource
[07:00] <ravennium> JoshuaRL, of course they have, but that's exactly what I meant... now magician157 can't do nothing about it, I suppose.
[07:00] <magician157> i know, i was hoping there might be some way to bypass the firewall. anyways, i am in china and the it guys speak only chinese, and i dont :(
[07:00] <JoshuaRL> magician157: not while being white hat.
[07:01] <AK_Dave> You're in China? Good luck with that port fowarding problem.
[07:01] <Sword^Fish> hi! I've low volume issue. here's my hardware details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/148750/ . Can anyone help me please?
[07:01] <xi_> (totem:10157): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_object_unref: assertion `object != NULL' failed
[07:01] <MQDuck> if im going to do a fresh install of xubuntu on a computer, is there any good reason to wait nine days before using 9.04?
[07:01] <sana> i do have java....but I don't see an option on firefox to enable java or a plugin
[07:01] <xi_> pop up window said could not read from resources
[07:02] <Ultraputz> aha!
[07:02] <Ultraputz> gnome-session-save --shutdown-dialog
[07:02] <AK_Dave> magician: Okay, you COULD bypass it. In theory. Depending on what they've done to block this. But in theory you could ssh tunnel around it.
[07:02] <Ultraputz> this brings up the shutdown/reboot/logout etc dialog
[07:02] <JoshuaRL> sana: have you restarted firefox?
[07:02] <magician157> :-) nevermind, just two more months in china, so guess i'll have to live with it. btw, which is a better bt client for linux? deluge or vuze?
[07:03] <JoshuaRL> magician157: but you'll need an ssh or vpn server outside their network to make that work
[07:03] <AK_Dave> magician: What you need to do is to setup a server outside of the firewall, say a cloud server with amazon,
[07:03] <JoshuaRL> magician157: i prefer ktorrent for gui, and rtorrent for cli.  rtorrent is FAST.
[07:03] <ziroday> MQDuck: no, you can upgrade to 9.04 from 8.10
[07:03] <xi_> here is a question since i have both Ubuntu and Kubuntu on this computer, can i keep the setup to Ubuntu (so i see the ubuntu logo) rather then the kubuntu logo when turning the computer on and off
[07:03] <xi_> i started out using ubuntu and didn't get the kubuntu logo untill i downloaded kubuntu-dekstop
[07:04] <AK_Dave> magician: amazon's server rates are $0.10/hr, and they get cheaper than that if you prepay a block. $0.03/hr is cheap.
[07:04] <magician157> AK_Dave, how do i setup a cloud server with amazon?
[07:04] <MQDuck> ziroday: im not upgrading. im doing a fresh install
[07:04] <magician157> AK_Dave, thank you, i will look into it.
[07:04] <ziroday> MQDuck: right, but in 9 days when jaunty is released you can always upgrade to it
[07:04] <magician157> thank you all, wish you a pleasant day.
[07:05] <AK_Dave> magician: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EC2StartersGuide
[07:05] <MQDuck> ziroday: but is there any good reason to wait?
[07:05] <Im_Toast> xi_: If you learn a way to... msg it to me pls
[07:05] <ziroday> MQDuck: if intrepid doesn't work jaunty is likely to
[07:05] <ziroday> xi_: do sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[07:06] <Sword^Fish> hi! I've low volume issue. here's my hardware details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/148750/ . Can anyone help me please?
[07:06] <xi_> thanks ziroday (will that also give me the gnome login page rather then the kde login page?)
[07:06] <ziroday> xi_: no it will just change usplash
[07:06] <MQDuck> ziroday: im just thinking that i might be simpler to install the new version right away
[07:07] <ziroday> MQDuck: well its your choice, but intrepid runs just fine the way it is
[07:07] <cyptrix> Hi my pc doesn't boot ever since 2.6.27* came out
[07:07] <ziroday> cyptrix: errors?
[07:07] <MQDuck> ziroday: okay. thanks
[07:07] <soreau> Sword^Fish: Volume problems?
[07:07] <cyptrix> when I go to recovery mode, it shows me attempting to kill init, and stack  trace
[07:07] <cyptrix> at that point it hangs
[07:07] <wv56xC5YS> ziroday: I tried restarting gnome but it still didn't do anything. It just went to a black screen then back to the shell 4 times. No printed errors either
[07:08] <soreau> Sword^Fish: Tried switching your output jack to a different output from the card?
[07:08] <ziroday> wv56xC5YS: okay, does restarting start X?
[07:08] <cyptrix> no idea how to troubleshoot it, the console output scrolls too fast and freezes
[07:08] <vintty> AK_Dave:  lspci -vnn "VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x], Kernel driver in use: nvidia Kernel modules: nvidiafb, nvidia" as far as kernal modules go when i use 'lsmod' i get about a hundred lines and nothing looks relevant. what should I be looking for?
[07:08] <ziroday> cyptrix: okay, when booting normally press alt+F1 and jot down error messages
[07:08] <cyptrix> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022723
[07:08] <cyptrix> nobody ever helped me out on forums either
[07:09] <ziroday> cyptrix: cross posting is not nice
[07:09] <wv56xC5YS> ziroday It gives me that error when I try to stop startx, saying "Saw signal 11. Server aborting."
[07:09] <cyptrix> cross posting?
[07:09] <ziroday> cyptrix: asking the same question in many places
[07:09] <AK_Dave> vintty: Looks like you're running an open source nvidia module. Did you say Intrepid? 'sudo apt-get install envy'
[07:09] <cyptrix> why not, when forums havent helped in months
[07:10] <ziroday> cyptrix: okay, that looks like a severe crash. Does a livecd work?
[07:10] <marcel> less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:10] <marcel> then press G to go to the end of this logfile
[07:10] <marcel> look at the logs
[07:10] <vintty> well i'm running mint 6- but that's just ubuntu intrepid with a few extra bits right?
[07:10] <ziroday> wv56xC5YS: well thats because you killed the process
[07:10] <ziroday> vintty: no
[07:10] <cyptrix> yes, i can boot when i choose 2.6.24-21-generic in grub
[07:10] <AK_Dave> vintty: Perfect! Mint 6 comes with Envy.
[07:10] <ziroday> cyptrix: what about a jaunty cd?
[07:11] <wv56xC5YS> ziroday: it gave me that error when I issued the command to kill the process, and the same error when I tried to start it
[07:11] <AK_Dave> vintty: You shoulda asked for help on the #linuxmint channel on spotchat.org
[07:11] <cyptrix> havent tried that
[07:11] <cyptrix> is there a way i can scroll up and check what the messages were
[07:11] <ziroday> cyptrix: just trying to understand if this is a kernel regression or not :). Could you please test with a jaunty daily livecd.
[07:11] <ziroday> cyptrix: ctrl+shift+pgup or one of those
[07:11] <vintty> AK_Dave: Sorry ... I tried the forums in mint but they didn't prove useful. I didn't know about the irc for mint. i'll use that next time.
[07:11] <sana> yes i have joshua
[07:12] <rubydiamond> gusy
[07:12] <rubydiamond> anybody using openvpn
[07:12] <bobbie4__> part
[07:12] <ziroday> wv56xC5YS: sorry, I can't help you anymore
[07:12] <ziroday> !anyone | rubydiamond
[07:12] <rubydiamond> I am not getting how to start openvpn with nameserver optopn
[07:12] <rubydiamond> sorry ziroday
[07:12] <cyptrix> let me attempt ctrl+shift+pgup
[07:12] <rubydiamond> I need help on running openvpn client with name server option
[07:12] <vintty> AK_Dave: so, you're saying mint 6 has envy built in. I'm guessing envy has something to do with my solution. What next?
[07:13] <wv56xC5YS> ziroday: Do you think it could be a hardware issue? I've had lots of problems with my video card in windows, even after a repartition
[07:13] <AK_Dave> vintty: click on it
[07:13] <ziroday> wv56xC5YS: don't know sorry.
[07:14] <vintty> AK_Dave: what's envy. I did a filter seach and I can't find it. Is it an application?
[07:14] <jdwarta>  JoshuaRL: no, he hasn't come back
[07:14] <AK_Dave> vintty: Its an application pre-installed with Mint, you'll find it in MintMenu. Click Felicia, and just click All. Scroll to Envy. Click.
[07:15] <JoshuaRL> jdwarta: okay.  sorry, i dont know the answer either.  but you could pass along the info he asked for and ask again
[07:15] <vintty> It's not in my menu. Only thing under E (in all) is encryption and keyrings
[07:16] <JoshuaRL> vintty: from terminal:  aptitude search envy-ng
[07:17] <JoshuaRL> vintty: then aptitude show envy-ng
[07:17] <JoshuaRL> if its installed, launch it from the terminal
[07:17] <cyptrix> ctrl+shift+pgup doesn't work
[07:17] <vintty> E: Unable to locate package envy-ng
[07:17] <cyptrix> seems everything even caps lock freezes
[07:17] <ziroday> cyptrix: ctrl+pgup?
[07:17] <cyptrix> same
[07:18] <cyptrix> im using usb keyboard tho
[07:18] <cyptrix> does that matter
[07:18] <ziroday> cyptrix: right, its a kernel oops. Please test a jaunty livecd, if that still doesn't work please file a kernel bug tagged as a regressino
[07:18] <vintty> AK_Dave: E: Unable to locate package envy-ng
[07:18] <JoshuaRL> vintty: do the same with "envy"
[07:18] <cyptrix> ok ill try livecd of 9.04 beta
[07:18] <cyptrix> what does regression mean exactly
[07:18] <jdwarta>  JoshuaRL: ok
[07:19] <cyptrix> bug wise
[07:19] <ziroday> cyptrix: no, try a daily live cd. It means something that used to work no longer works and is a serious issue
[07:20] <AK_Dave> When you 'sudo apt-get install packagename' you only need to know the first few letters of the packagename and can TAB to autofill the rest. And if that doesn't work, double-TAB and you'll get a list of everything similar. Example: 'sudo apt-get install airTABTAB'
[07:21] <vintty> JoshuaRL & AK_Dave: i   envyng-core                     - install the ATI or the NVIDIA driver
[07:21] <vintty> i   envyng-gtk                      - dummy package to envyng-core
[07:21] <vintty> p   envyng-qt                       - install the ATI or the NVIDIA driver
[07:21] <vintty> p   envyng-t                        - Menu entry for envyng -t
[07:21] <FloodBot2> vintty: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:21] <AK_Dave> envyng-core
[07:22] <DigitalMan> No one responded to my forums post, amazingly.
[07:22] <xi_> envyng is a great package
[07:22] <DigitalMan> I'm having a small install error
[07:22] <JoshuaRL> vintty: yep, AK_Dave is right
[07:22] <JoshuaRL> DigitalMan: what problem you having?
[07:22] <xi_> it got nvidia to say hey while i may not know what card you have you have a card!
[07:22] <pahom> vintty: install envyng-gtk
[07:23] <pahom> after install, type envyng -t
[07:23] <DigitalMan> all the specs are right here if anyone has a chance to take a look, help is greatly appreciated: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1122217
[07:23] <eXgame> How to fix startup error The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_MultiLoadApplet". ?
[07:24] <marcel> how can I extract from the current kernel image it's kernel configuration
[07:24] <JoshuaRL> DigitalMan: you have the exact error?  gonna need a little more info to go on.
[07:24] <DigitalMan> How long are you going to be on JoshuaRL? :)
[07:24] <DigitalMan> Because I'm in the middle of doing stuff for work right now and can't boot into the cd atm
[07:25] <vintty> pahom: install: comes up with:  missing destination file operand after `envyng-gtk'
[07:25] <Im_Toast> Does anyone know of a way to like... kill 1 tab of firefox without killing the whole thing? lol
[07:25] <vintty> pahom: install: missing destination file operand after `envyng-gtk'
[07:25] <JoshuaRL> DigitalMan: ill post the same thing on the forums, and you just reply there soon as you can
[07:25] <AK_Dave> Im_Toast: Ctrl-F4
[07:25] <admin_masu3701> when is 9.04 coming out?
[07:25] <DigitalMan> Do what now?
[07:26] <minazo> As silly as it might sound i like the terminal *to* beep. I guess it keeps me company. :) Regardless, I can't seem to find a way to enable it on Xubuntu. I've tried several things...this is the last thing...this actually comes from the documents on Xubuntu so I would think they'd work but I am not hearing anything. Any ever have this problem? All I am reading on the web is people want it to *go away*. :)
[07:26] <marcham89> like 13 days
[07:26] <minazo> http://pastie.org/443556
[07:26] <pahom> enter: envyng -t
[07:26] <marcham89> !ati
[07:26] <admin_masu3701> marcham89: cool...is it gonna be stable?
[07:26]  * AK_Dave likes to cut the speaker wires on his computers so the terminal can NEVER beep.
[07:26] <marcham89> im running it right now
[07:26] <marcham89> its awesome.
[07:27] <admin_masu3701> cause i try the beta version but my wireless card didnt work
[07:27] <cyptrix> in case 9.04 live cd works, what should i do next?
[07:27] <cyptrix> it's gonna take a while to download
[07:27] <marcham89> I was having an issue with audio in 8.10 that now is gone in 9.04
[07:27] <JoshuaRL> DigitalMan: i posted what questions you need to answer on your thread.  im subscribed to it now.  reply when you can.
[07:27] <marcham89> did it work in 8.10?
[07:27] <admin_masu3701> marcham89: yes
[07:27] <ziroday> AK_Dave: you can also add blacklist pcspkr to /etc/modules.d/blacklist
[07:27] <DigitalMan> Sure.. as soon as I get a chance. Thanks :)
[07:28] <JoshuaRL> DigitalMan: no prob
[07:28] <vintty> pahom: Install the nvidia driver?
[07:28] <JoshuaRL> AK_Dave: heh, just in case huh?
[07:29] <marcham89> admin_masu3701: odd. The I am having a bit of trouble with my ati card in 9.04 when running compiz, but thats ati for ya :-/
[07:29] <jdwarta>  JoshuaRL: do you think that this would be a safe fix for my problem? ( last post) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=501953&page=2
[07:29] <marcham89> ur issue should be relatively easy to find a fix
[07:30] <pahom> yap
[07:30] <Im_Toast> ATI > Nvidea =P
[07:30] <admin_masu3701> marcham89: i always had problem with compiz
[07:30] <marcham89> Im_Toast.... typo... xD and nah Nvidia is better
[07:30] <rubydiamond> guys
[07:31] <rubydiamond> anybody openvpn ?
[07:31] <Im_Toast> marcham89: Your crazy. =P
[07:31] <AK_Dave> JoshuaRL: Physically removing the speaker is the best bet.
[07:31] <JoshuaRL> jdwarta: honestly, i have no idea.  but you could try it out though.  I'd backup important info first though, just to be safe.
[07:31] <jdwarta> JoshuaRL: ok
[07:32] <marcham89> Im_Toast: They are good, but Ive had a world of trouble with their drivers in win and linux
[07:32] <jdwarta> does anyone here know anything about the swapfile swap hangup when booting ubuntu
[07:32] <JoshuaRL> AK_Dave: the only terminal beep i wanna here is when i reboot my server via ssh.  and that doesnt count.
[07:33] <vintty> Pahom, AK_Dave, anyone else that helped: Thanks for your help guys. It's asking me to reboot. Sorry for being hopeless. Hardly used a terminal before in my life   = ) cheers. fingers x it fixes it.
[07:33] <marcham89> jdwarta: have u read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=501953
[07:33] <jdwarta> marcham89: yes
[07:34] <marcham89> no help i assume?
[07:34] <JoshuaRL> marcham89: yeah, he found that.  he wanted to know if anyone knew if that was a good fix.
[07:34] <jdwarta> marcham89: idk if it is a safe fix
[07:34] <AK_Dave> Yes, reboot!
[07:34] <jdwarta> it is a safe fix?
[07:34] <pahom> vintty: np :)
[07:34] <Im_Toast> marcham89: Huh. I've never had a problem I guess that's why I like em ;). And it seems like I can get the same hardware cheaper
[07:34] <vintty> :-D
[07:34] <vintty> bubye.
[07:35] <jdwarta> AK_Dave:  you say it IS a safe fix?
[07:35] <marcham89> jdwarta: no idea. ive always been a risky person so i usually would jump into. but thats just me...
[07:35] <brutus> someone update bash.org
[07:35] <marcham89> Im_Toast: must be just me then. ha
[07:35] <JoshuaRL> jdwarta: he was talking to me, sorry
[07:35] <jdwarta> lol
[07:35] <AK_Dave> jdwarta: I don't know what you're referring to.
[07:35] <jdwarta> lol
[07:36] <jdwarta> nvm
[07:36] <jdwarta> i am going to try the fix and reboot
[07:36] <jdwarta> cya
[07:36] <JoshuaRL> jdwarta: let us know if it works
[07:36] <marcham89> gl
[07:37] <ziroday> !offtopic > brutus
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[07:38] <FloodBot2> maggotface: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:38] <ziroday> !ops | maggotface
[07:39] <JoshuaRL> ziroday: he got the flood message
[07:39] <ziroday> JoshuaRL: he will be unmuted soon, at which point he will flood again :)
[07:39] <JoshuaRL> sorry
[07:40] <sir_ade> why he flooding the channel
[07:40] <jdwarta1> it worked!
[07:40] <rubydiamond> anybody using openvpn client.. I want to know how to push dns using openvpn client
[07:40] <ziroday> JoshuaRL: no worries :)
[07:40] <jdwarta1> next time, however, someone else can be the gineua pig
[07:41] <jdwarta1> lol
[07:41] <JoshuaRL> jdwarta1: sweet!  make sure you post to tell everyone about it
[07:41] <jdwarta1> where?
[07:41] <JoshuaRL> jdwarta1: on that thread you found
[07:41] <jdwarta1> ok
[07:41] <JoshuaRL> jdwarta1: its just good to let others know this fixes it for you.
[07:44]  * marcham89 wants coffee....
[07:45] <armornic1> hey guys, what is the default behavior of iptables?
[07:45] <xi_> which VM would you all suggest for Ubuntu ?
[07:45] <ziroday> !ufw | armornic1
[07:46] <ziroday> armornic1: sorry, I believe its off by default and you should use ufw to control it
[07:46] <xi_> Xen, VirtualBox, or VMware
[07:46] <ziroday> !best | xi_
[07:46] <xi_> ziroday, i ask for config reasons
[07:46] <ziroday> xi_: config reasons?
[07:46] <xi_> some programs are easier and config nicely while others require more work
[07:47] <armornic1> so, by default, any incoming connection is disabled, right?
[07:47] <armornic1> just to make sure I don't have a leak
[07:47] <ziroday> armornic1: I'm not sure
[07:47] <ziroday> !iptables | armornic1 see
[07:47] <xi_> anywho off to update to the beta
[07:48] <guillaume> Hi all
[07:48] <xi_> <3 APTonCD
[07:48] <JoshuaRL> armornic1: by default iptables is either closed or stealthed (same thing for security)  so by default its secure.  if you go installing other things, it may open ports though, depending on the app.
[07:48] <vagothcpp> Hi, I got a nano.save file that won't be removed in channel using: sudu su
[07:48] <vagothcpp> rm -f nano.save
[07:48] <marcham89> xi_ w00t have fun
[07:48] <marcham89> xD
[07:48] <JoshuaRL> vagothcpp: whats the error
[07:48] <ziroday> vagothcpp: does sudo rm /path/to/nano.save not work?
[07:49] <vagothcpp> I went sudo su first
[07:49] <vagothcpp> as my user is able to being on the sudoers thing
[07:49] <JoshuaRL> vagothcpp: just use sudo.  no need to be root.
[07:50] <leo_> hello,babies
[07:50] <Polk`> hello, I am trying to use RAID 5 with ubuntu server I am useing 8.04
[07:50] <guillaume> #help
[07:51] <guillaume> #?
[07:51] <Polk`> guillaume, ?
[07:51] <vagothcpp> Also, what is the command to change the owner of a directory and all files
[07:51] <pahom> !
[07:51] <vagothcpp> Not the permissions
[07:51] <ziroday> vagothcpp: chgrp?
[07:51] <ziroday> vagothcpp: oh, err chown sorry
[07:51] <vagothcpp> thanks
[07:51] <Flannel> vagothcpp: Which directory are you interested in changing?
[07:51] <Polk`> can someone help me
[07:52] <vagothcpp> not OS
[07:52] <histo> !raid > Polk`
[07:53] <Polk`> done
[07:53] <histo> vagothcpp: chown -R   would be recursive
[07:53] <vagothcpp> make clean
[07:53] <vagothcpp> wrong window
[07:53] <jdwarta1> being new to ubuntu, I am racking up DP in PMOG at a incredible rate
[07:53] <Polk`> histo, looking
[07:54] <histo> vagothcpp: somethign liek chown -R user:group /path/to/directory
[07:54] <histo> Polk`: ?
[07:54] <Polk`> histo, I am looking at it.. Thanks
[07:54] <histo> Polk`: looking at what?
[07:54] <Polk`> the PM
[07:54] <histo> oh
[07:54] <Polk`> histo> !raid > Polk`
[07:54] <Polk`> this.
[07:54] <Polk`> ha
[07:54] <JoshuaRL> vagothcpp: if you need more info on chown, you can always look at man chown
[07:55] <histo> sry forget what I tell hte bot to do sometimes
[07:55] <vagothcpp> With ./configure files, if I don't specify --prefix, does it install in the usal /usr/bin
[07:55] <vagothcpp> usual*
[07:55] <guillaume> vagothccp : man chown
[07:56] <JoshuaRL> vagothcpp: not sure, but i think so
[07:56] <Cappy|Here> i had a very snappy ubuntu-minimal + xfce4 install that got screwed up by some updates, now i've gone back to a xubuntu install and the machine bogs down quite severly what can i do to speed things up?
[07:57] <deany> usr/local for compiled, usr/ for the apt system
[07:57] <Double_Kill2> hey, how do i install limewire on linux?
[07:57] <JoshuaRL> Cappy|Here: how long have you had xubuntu running?  what specs?
[07:58] <JoshuaRL> Double_Kill2: try frostwire
[07:58] <Polk`> !raid > Polk`
[07:58] <Double_Kill2> can you install limewire on linux?
[07:58] <Flannel> !frostwire
[07:59] <Cappy|Here> JoshuaRL, the xubuntu has been running for about 18 hours now, its a dual-core 1.8ghz laptop with 2gb ram
[07:59] <magnetron> Double_Kill2→ yes, but frostwire is better
[07:59] <Double_Kill2> alright, how do you install frostwire
[07:59] <JoshuaRL> !frostwire | Double_Kill2
[08:00] <Double_Kill2> ight, thought there would just be a command line thing that would just do it
[08:00] <phh45> Any info about the recent sound problems? Earlier there have not been any problems but after I installed updates for last 16 days on 9th April.
[08:01] <JoshuaRL> Cappy|Here: so when you say it bogs down, what do you mean?  do you notice any memory or CPU hogs in system monitor?
[08:02] <JoshuaRL> Cappy|Here: im running a 1.9dual with 3gb and xfce runs FAST
[08:02] <histo> Cappy|Here: when does it bog down?
[08:02] <Cappy|Here> i think i might have found it
[08:03] <JoshuaRL> Cappy|Here: what you got?
[08:03] <Cappy|Here> thanks for telling me about System Monitor =)
[08:03] <JoshuaRL> Cappy|Here: no prob.  what was it?
[08:03] <Cappy|Here> dunno, but im going to look around a bit more =)
[08:04] <JoshuaRL> Cappy|Here: remember to look at both the cpu AND memory usage.  that will tell you something.
[08:04] <Cappy|Here> JoshuaRL, np thanks
[08:06] <ruby_on_tails> hello
[08:11] <histo> Cappy|Here: you can also use the command top at a console to see a text based monitor
[08:12] <Mike_lifeguard> Where are the standard sound files stored? The simple pings and error sounds etc?
[08:13] <taz_> hi... im look for good webiste... there have alot of wallpaper or background for ubuntu
[08:13] <Flannel> !gnome-look | taz_
[08:13] <taz_> thanks
[08:13] <histo> taz_: gnome-look.org
[08:14] <Flannel> !themes | taz_
[08:14] <Mike_lifeguard> Flannel: Do you happen to know where standard sound files are kept?
[08:14] <taz_> thanks again smile
[08:14] <BlackDalek> what was that command that makes each speaker play a sound separately for the purpose of testing if a multi-speaker setup is working properly?
[08:14] <Flannel> Mike_lifeguard: "standard"?  /usr/share/*
[08:18] <admin_masu3701> where is a good place to look for entry level IP jobs?
[08:18] <Robert_1> ip or it
[08:18] <admin_masu3701> IT
[08:18] <admin_masu3701> sorry
[08:19] <Robert_1> fine.. i can't think of any right now but they're all over the place
[08:21] <BlackDalek> ok I found it... speaker-test ...but how do I tell speaker-test to use the external USB soundcard and not the internal laptop speakers? There is an option for -D <device> but I don't know what to put in place of <device>
[08:21] <ruby_on_tails> can i install kde 4.2 without uninstalling kde 3.5 ?
[08:21] <histo> BlackDalek: speaker-test?
[08:22] <marcel> ruby_on_tails, i dont think so , the meta package kde points to 4.2
[08:22] <stew> BlackDalek: with -D devicename
[08:22] <marcel> ruby_on_tails, can you do apt-cache show kde?
[08:22] <BlackDalek> histo, yes. speaker-test in terminal makes the speakers play sound
[08:22] <Flannel> ruby_on_tails: On 8.04 yes, on 8.10 no
[08:22] <ron2010> when i try to restart the computer or shut it down it doesnt turn off my computer and reboot
[08:22] <ruby_on_tails> i am o 8.04
[08:22] <ruby_on_tails> on*
[08:22] <BlackDalek> stew, that IS my question - I don't know what to put in place of "devicename"
[08:22] <ron2010> it just restarts and gets me back to ubuntu login
[08:22] <Flannel> ruby_on_tails: instll kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[08:23] <ron2010> anybody know what's wrong?
[08:23] <platius> BlackDalek; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems    have you looked here?
[08:23] <ruby_on_tails> but i need to uninstall kde 3.5 ?
[08:23] <ruby_on_tails> first ?
[08:23] <Double_Kill2> hey i need to delete a file that needs root access
[08:23] <Flannel> ruby_on_tails: nope.
[08:23] <Double_Kill2> how do i do that
[08:23] <histo>  BlackDalek I was ansering yourquestion
[08:23] <marcel> Double_Kill2, sudo rm filename
[08:23] <histo> BlackDalek: I didn't see you already foudn it though.
[08:23] <jrq> can some1 tell me how i can get kubuntu features on ubuntu
[08:23] <BlackDalek> I see
[08:23] <ruby_on_tails> then i directly install 4.2 ?
[08:23] <AK_Dave> jrq: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:24] <marcel> jrib, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:24]  * AK_Dave FTW!
[08:24] <marcel> sorry wrong person
[08:24] <jrq> i dont kno what that means can u guys explain it
[08:24] <jrq> im new to linux
[08:24] <faus> I believe i just added the proper line to modules.d/alsa-base to get my sound card to work, is there anyway i can test it / reset the sound without rebooting my computer?
[08:24] <Double_Kill2> rm: cannot remove `2009-04-05_<IP_ADDRESS>2975.jonathan-laptop.ful': Is a directory
[08:24] <marcel> jrq, its a package to install
[08:24] <AK_Dave> jrq: thats a command to type in a terminal
[08:25] <jrq> how do i go into the terminal ? is similar to how windows has cmd
[08:25] <Sword^Fish> hi! I've low volume issue. here's my hardware details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/148750/ . Can anyone help me please?
[08:25] <pahom> use rm -f <dir_name>
[08:25] <ron2010> when i shut down it only goes to ubuntu login... anybody have this problem or know how to fix it?
[08:25] <marcel> pahom, sudo rmdir <dir-name>
[08:27] <Double_Kill2> it wont let me
[08:27] <ruby_on_tails> ok i just started downlading package files for kde 4
[08:27] <rww> Double_Kill2: rm -r directoryname
[08:28] <pahom> that`s right too
[08:28] <pahom> :)
[08:28] <kraut> moin
[08:28] <Double_Kill2> cant remove it
[08:28] <Double_Kill2> it has a lock sign on it
[08:28] <Double_Kill2> the file
[08:28] <rww> pahom: rm -f doesn't remove directories. rmdir only removes empty ones
[08:29] <rww> Double_Kill2: sudo rm -r directoryname
[08:29] <Double_Kill2> THANK YOU!
[08:29] <Double_Kill2> thanks rww!
[08:29] <Sword^Fish> hi! I've low volume issue. here's my hardware details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/148750/ . Can anyone help me please?
[08:29] <marcel> -f is force, -r is recursive
[08:30] <rww> Double_Kill2: you're welcome :)
[08:30] <Double_Kill2> rww
[08:30] <marcel> Sword^Fish, whats the problem then
[08:30] <Double_Kill2> can i add you for future help
[08:31] <Sword^Fish> marcel, in windows I get higher volume than in ubuntu
[08:31] <rww> Double_Kill2: Probably best to just ask in here, rather than PMing people directly.
[08:31] <AK_Dave> Sword: turn the volume up in the ALSA mixer
[08:31] <marcel> Sword^Fish, did you try alsamixer
[08:31]  * AK_Dave FTW!
[08:31] <Double_Kill2> alright, just trying to make some friends
[08:31] <Double_Kill2> so i have people to ask
[08:32] <pahom> rww: yeah. u right. sorry.
[08:32] <Sword^Fish> AK_Dave, marcel  yep.. i tried alsamixer. all are tuned to max.. still low
[08:32] <marcel> to work for you :)
[08:33] <marcel> Sword^Fish, did you try also setting all mixer to high?
[08:33] <AK_Dave> Sword: Some specific audio hardware, esp laptops, need little tweak lines added to alsa's config file in order to work right. If thats you, I don't know. Do 'lspci' to find your hardware, and then let google be your friend.
[08:34] <Sword^Fish> marcel, yes... the sound is higher now.. but still not enough :(
[08:34] <Sword^Fish> AK_Dave, okay..
[08:35] <marcel> Sword^Fish, dont you have a speakerset with volume?
[08:35] <AK_Dave> Sword: You have 3 mixers to play with: ALSA, OSS, and Pulseaudio.
[08:35] <Sword^Fish> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) <-- lspci
[08:36] <Sword^Fish> marcel, speakerset gives much boost ; but laptop speakers don't
[08:36] <AK_Dave> Sword: That should be using snd-hda-intel if I'm not mistaken
[08:36] <artha> did anyone upgrade nagios 3.0.2 to 3.1 on ubuntu?
[08:37] <marcel> Sword^Fish, go to the alsa project website and mail something on the mailinglist, it think they can help you better
[08:37] <Robert_1> sword: have you tried different outputs in edit>preferences of volume control
[08:37] <Sword^Fish> AK_Dave, most likely. here's an article I found http://www.datanorth.net/~cuervo/blog/linux-on-the-satellite-a215-s7407/ which tells to add a line in /etc/modprobe.d/sound but I don't see any sound file in /etc/modprobe.d/ dir
[08:37] <Sword^Fish> marcel, okay.. that's last option :(
[08:37] <AK_Dave> Sword: ChaCHING! Create the file yourself. Seriously.
[08:38] <marcel> Sword^Fish, why the last? you hate mailinglists?
[08:38] <Sword^Fish> Robert_1, yeah..
[08:38] <Sword^Fish> AK_Dave, ok.. let's see
[08:39] <Sword^Fish> marcel, lol.. nope.. I love #ubuntu, it's faster than mailing list
[08:40] <AK_Dave> Sword: faster answer, yes. The right answer? not always. Sometimes better to just drop a question to a mailing list and get the right answer, even if you have to wait. In this case, the answer was "just google it" and you came through on your own.
[08:40] <Sword^Fish> AK_Dave, options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba <- I'm using AsusX51R, what should be my line?
[08:40] <AK_Dave> Sword: Beats me. You found the article. What does it say?
[08:41] <AK_Dave> Sword: according to the article you create the file an the one and only line that goes into it is:
[08:41] <AK_Dave> options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba
[08:42] <Sword^Fish> AK_Dave, it tells to download a driver from realtek website and add a line in /etc/modprobe.d/sound . but which driver is it?
[08:42] <Sword^Fish> but i don't use toshiba. it's Asus X51R. what should I write then?
[08:42] <AK_Dave> I think you should already have snd-hda-intel installed and probably loaded
[08:43] <AK_Dave> do 'lsmod' and you'll see
[08:44] <Sword^Fish> found -> snd_page_alloc         16136  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
[08:44] <AK_Dave> yeah, you're good. If you didn't have that module you'd have zero sound.
[08:45] <Sword^Fish> okay.. so I don't need to create that file then?
[08:46] <AK_Dave> I suspect  you do need to create the file, but you don't need to download the driver because it is already installed.
[08:46] <Sword^Fish> okay.. then I think that's max output I would be getting while I'm on ubuntu.
[08:47] <AK_Dave> perhaps you are correct
[08:47] <Q_Continuum> Is there a way to make the bottom bar (taskbar) two rows, so they don't compress the names so quickly?
[08:47] <klubinski> hello
[08:47] <Sword^Fish> thanks AK_Dave , marcel :)
[08:48] <clearscreen> This is just a question out of curiosity: Do all kernel modules have to be rebuilt for every new kernel version? I noticed how nvidia drivers require specific kernel headers
[08:48] <HamidReza> hi
[08:48] <HamidReza> i have problem with flash in firefox
[08:48] <HamidReza> only in firefox
[08:48] <klubinski> how can i use the ubuntu as a web server?
[08:49] <xtknight> clearscreen, yes.  dkms is a service that handles this automatically for some modules like virtualbox and nvidia
[08:50] <clearscreen> xtknight: aha, alright
[08:50] <xtknight> drivers have to be linked against the current running kernel sources, otherwise when you load them the "version magic" will be wrong.
[08:50] <bluejeans>  klubinski, dedicated server?
[08:51] <bluejeans> klubinski, check out ubuntu server edition.. either use it or install the package list it shows.
[08:51] <SqueakyNeb> Hey Hey everyone. I play WoW, and I want it on my laptop. My laptop is running Ubuntu 8.04. Anyone had any sucess with WoW+Wine???
[08:52] <Q_Continuum> SqueakyNeb: I haven't personally, but I think if you look on the ubuntuforums.org under gaming, or on the winehq website you'll find instructions/help with it
[08:52] <HamidReza> i have problem with flash in firefox (only in firefox)
[08:53] <HamidReza> help me,please
[08:53] <SqueakyNeb> Q_Continuum: I have found several guides for it, I was wondering if anyone has warnings or advice.
[08:53] <psychomantis> hey guys
[08:53] <bluejeans> HamidReza, is this jsut recently? since the last firefox update a few days ago many people have had problems
[08:53] <SqueakyNeb> HamidReza, Describe your prob
[08:54] <HamidReza> what's mean?
[08:54] <psychomantis> expose your problem properly
[08:54] <HamidReza> Describe your prob
[08:54] <psychomantis> hamid
[08:55] <HamidReza> a flash program work like a film
[08:55] <clearscreen> SqueakyNeb: WoW ran just fine under wine for me (I was using 8.10 though)
[08:55] <HamidReza> for exampel : speedtest.net
[08:55] <SqueakyNeb> @clearscreen, How does it run compared to running on windows??
[08:55] <krishna> how to download from youtube like sites using a software ??? pzl dont give me sites like keepvid....i want a native linux software to do it .. thanks
[08:55] <psychomantis> explain any details
[08:55] <HamidReza> it's like a filme playing
[08:56] <clearscreen> SqueakyNeb: there's no hardware acceleration for the mouse in OpenGL mode... but that's about the only downside
[08:56] <HamidReza> no
[08:56] <bluejeans> HamidReza, when did the problem start? does flash still work in other appilcations? have you done any updates recently?
[08:56] <SqueakyNeb> clearscreen, how does that affect it? im not entirely sure what hardware accel does for the mouse
[08:56] <HamidReza> yes,in opera worked
[08:57] <krishna> when i search using google.. all i got is only for windows :(
[08:57] <HamidReza> my firefox version is 3.0.8
[08:57] <clearscreen> SqueakyNeb: your mouse won't feel as smooth as it should.. if it really is a problem, some people have created a whine patch that makes it use your desktop icon instead
[08:57] <krishna> how to download from youtube like sites using a software ??? pzl dont give me sites like keepvid....i want a native linux software to do it .. thanks
[08:57] <SqueakyNeb> clearscreen, So you think it should be fine???
[08:58] <clearscreen> SqueakyNeb: wine* patch.. you'll have to manually build wine to apply it though
[08:58] <clearscreen> SqueakyNeb: depends really, you should try it out and make the consideration for yourself... dont forget to run with -opengl parameter
[08:58] <SqueakyNeb> krishna, Open synaptic, search for youtube
[08:58] <Bossmanbeta> ANyone use Sonata (frontend to MPD) ?  It does not seem to save selections to playlists, simply doesn't work.. (version 1.4.2), any ideas?
[08:59] <rww> !info youtube-dl | krishna
[08:59] <Dreamglider> Good Morning fellow Ubuntu'ers
[08:59] <SqueakyNeb> clearscreen, I just found something about opengl in this guide. I think it says something like that. THanks a lot
[08:59] <clearscreen> SqueakyNeb: you're welcome
[08:59] <bluejeans> Dreamglider, morning?
[08:59] <krishna> SqueakyNeb "There is no matching application available." add/remove told me this
[08:59] <krishna> when i searched for youtube
[08:59] <Dreamglider> bluejeans, yes Morning :)
[09:00] <Dreamglider> bluejeans, 08:59 here
[09:00] <clearscreen> SqueakyNeb: we just have to hope blizzard will add hardware acceleration for OpenGL in windows (it does have it on the Mac!)
[09:00] <HamidReza> but in my city not morning
[09:00] <bluejeans> Dreamglider, haha.. i wasjust about to say "g'nightall"
[09:00] <SqueakyNeb> krishna, you are doing it wrong. open synaptic package manager, and click search up the top
[09:00] <BlackDalek> I am trying to follow this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=997506 but when I get to "Go to System/Preferences/Default Sound Card" nothing happens... it says "starting default soundcard" then nothing...
[09:00] <krishna> in a website , its told that "rm -rf /" is  a dangerous command ?? why ? what  will it do ?
[09:00] <Dreamglider> bluejeans,  what's your time ?
[09:00] <krishna> SqueakyNeb, ok
[09:01] <clearscreen> !rm-rf | krishna
[09:01] <HamidReza> 12:32 PM
[09:01] <clearscreen> mmpf
[09:01] <knoxville> krishna, your joking right?
[09:01] <krishna> clearscreen, ?
[09:01] <bluejeans> Dreamglider, 1am
[09:01] <HamidReza> help
[09:01] <krishna> knoxville, i am NOT
[09:01] <Ignoramus11> I have a quick question for you guys, im on opensuse 11.1 but I want to try out ubuntu,  When i choose to download the 64bit version it says its a amd64 install, i have an intel chip
[09:01] <SqueakyNeb> clearscreen, Mac is a *nix like OS, right? can you run mac binaries on linux??
[09:01] <krishna> knoxville, in a linux website.. its told that "rm -rf /" is dangerous
[09:01] <Dreamglider> that's 01:00 yes ?
[09:01] <knoxville> krishna, well it will delete everything without asking you twice
[09:01] <usser> SqueakyNeb, nope its binary incompatible
[09:02] <krishna> knoxville, what do you mean by "Everything" ?
[09:02] <Bossmanbeta> ANyone use Sonata (frontend to MPD) ?  It does not seem to save selections to playlists, simply doesn't work.. (version 1.4.2), any ideas?
[09:02] <clearscreen> SqueakyNeb: Mac is based on a BSD kernel which is indeed based off of unix, but as usser has stated, binaries are indeed incompatible unfortunately
[09:02] <bluejeans> Ignoramus11, unless you have an amd64 jsut get the 32 bit
[09:02] <knoxville> krishna well / refers to the root directory which means it would delte everything inside the root directory that you have permission to delete
[09:02] <HamidReza> flash don't work in firefox
[09:02] <Ignoramus11> what if i have 12 gigs of ram >.<
[09:02] <clearscreen> krishna: rm is the remove/delete command ;) / is the root directory.. have fun deleting all your files
[09:03] <krishna> SqueakyNeb, is there any gui for youtube-dl
[09:03] <bluejeans> Ignoramus11, irrelevent
[09:03] <rww> Ignoramus11: amd64 is the same thing as x86_64. If you're using a recent Intel chip, it's compatible.
[09:03] <krishna> clearscreen, knoxville , thanks.. now clearly understood
[09:03] <bluejeans> Ignoramus11, its the processor we're talking about
[09:03] <rww> Ignoramus11: i.e. Core2 or i7.
[09:03] <Ignoramus11> thanks rww
[09:03] <SqueakyNeb> clearscreen, usser, :( disapointment. If there was a program like wine for Mac binaries in Linux, would it work better than wine?
[09:03] <krishna> knoxville, then will it delete the system files too ???
[09:03] <Ignoramus11> core 2
[09:03] <knoxville> krishna if you own the webserver and have sudo permissions, yes!