[03:50] <reiki> BlueEagle, fair enough. I appreciate all the help getting me this far. :)  I'll keep whackin away at it
[03:50] <mustang2> Does anyone have a chaintech av710 in here by any chance..?
[03:50] <DonL> woops. x-out of the wrong place
[03:50] <johndarkhorse> dylan_: the plugin isnt much good w/o the program behind it
[03:51] <locomorto> I'm using breezy currently, and I was wondering how I would get libtag 1.4? I'm not shy of compiling.
[03:51] <dabaR> johndarkhorse: I never saw you here before, and I come sometimes, usually every day. How do you think it is that I never saw you here before?
[03:51] <BlueEagle> reiki: Don't you be wanking now usb-stick and telling us about it!! :)
[03:51] <Gobbla> nfinitep1astik: vlc-plugin-alsa?
[03:51] <reiki> hehehehe
[03:51] <BlueEagle> oh, wait... wacking...
[03:51] <reiki> or wanking
[03:51] <reiki> :)
[03:51] <boman_> :D
[03:51] <DonL> Who was asking about changing the file system?
[03:51] <dylan_> johndarkhorse, ok....is there another program?  i dont like the mplayer one
[03:51] <thoreauputic> dylan_: another possibility (with xine) https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&numpg=10&id=446
[03:52] <BlueEagle> dylan_: What's not to like about mplayer? :p
[03:52] <nfinitep1astik> Gobbla: thanks j0
[03:52] <dylan_> BlueEagle, just personal preference i guess
[03:52] <HrdwrBoB> BlueEagle: lots of things
[03:52] <johndarkhorse> dylan_: the only other option i know is to d/l the vids directly and play them on whatever your favorite player is
[03:52] <Gobbla> nfinitep1astik: no problem
[03:52] <boman_> BlueEagle: Thinking the same thing. :D
[03:52] <HrdwrBoB> terribleinterface, lack or dvd menu support
[03:52] <HrdwrBoB> *of
[03:52] <BlueEagle> dylan_: Ahh well, gmplayer might not support skins. :)
[03:53] <boman_> Anyone here that runs xfce and know if it's possible to prioritize desktop bgs?
[03:53] <Gobbla> i dont think any player for linux plays wmv or quicktime media...
[03:54] <thoreauputic> Gobbla: wrong
[03:54] <DonL> Gobbla, yup
[03:54] <dylan_> BlueEagle, lol well ok
[03:54] <boman_> Running twinview 1280 on my monitor and 1024 on my tv and my desktop bg is really fucked up. :P
[03:54] <Gobbla> ok I stand corrected then
[03:54] <thoreauputic> Gobbla: with w32codecs, xine or mplayer work
[03:54] <Gobbla> aight
[03:55] <Gobbla> you should ignore those lousy formats though..
[03:55] <cobhcf> what is a good place to dl ubuntu?
[03:55] <nfinitep1astik> Gobbla: ack...it's still quiet....other ideas per chance?
[03:55] <Gobbla> www.ubuntulinux.org cobhcf?
[03:55] <thoreauputic> Gobbla: true, but people want them, still
[03:55] <boman_> Is it possible now to run wmv9-coded files with mplayer?
[03:55] <Gobbla> nfinitep1astik: why not esd?
[03:55] <dylan_> BlueEagle, ok i installed the whole mplayer-mozilla thing and the movies play sound but no video....
[03:55] <nfinitep1astik> Gobbla: because ALSA works with all my games
[03:56] <Gobbla> umm okay... sorry im out of ideas
[03:56] <thoreauputic> dylan_: do you have w32codecs?
[03:56] <reiki> is there a GUI for repartitioning? I may repartition this USB flash drive and format it like mkfs -t vfat /dev/sda1
[03:56] <thoreauputic> 1codecs
[03:56] <dylan_> thoreauputic, no where do i get em?
[03:56] <thoreauputic> !codecs
[03:56] <ubotu> somebody said codecs was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:57] <thoreauputic> dylan_: hoary-extras - see bottom of ubotu's page
[03:57] <boman_> You can just apt-get w32codecs...
[03:57] <thoreauputic> boman_: if you enable hoary-extras
[03:57] <locomorto> reiki: Qtparted/Gparted
[03:57] <boman_> thoreauputic: Oh, that's true...
[03:57] <AussieBen> Anyone know how I might stop initrd-tools from segment faulting during my base install?
[03:58] <fsmw> hi guys, i got this from glxgears: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:58] <thoreauputic> dylan_: if you enable hoary-extras I suggest disabling that repo after getting what you need
[03:58] <BlueEagle> dylan_: mplayer -vo gl2 videofile
[03:58] <fsmw> i have an ati radeon video card on a dell 600m laptop
[03:58] <thoreauputic> dylan_: to avoid problems with library conflicts etc
[03:59] <malv> Anyone know of a place where people submit ideas and other people rate those ideas?
[04:00] <dazvid> malv: you could make a poll on a forum :)
[04:00] <malv> yea, I just had an idea that I think would be neat
[04:00] <AussieBen> Anyone at all able to help out? Is it a known bug or anything?
[04:00] <malv> I just don't know how willing people would be to openly share ideas in hope that someone will make it happen
[04:00] <newubuntuuser> !format
[04:00] <ubotu> newubuntuuser: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:01] <BlueEagle> reiki: partition a drive that is 256 mb?
[04:01] <thoreauputic> newubuntuuser: what did you want to know?
[04:01] <newubuntuuser> Hi there! Anyone know what I could use to format a drive?
[04:01] <reiki> BlueEagle, just thinking about wiping it very clean is all
[04:01] <newubuntuuser> IS there a shell command?
[04:01] <thoreauputic> newubuntuuser: several
[04:01] <thoreauputic> newubuntuuser: format as what?
[04:01] <newubuntuuser> I am all ears / eyes
[04:01] <chavo> newubuntuuser, it's mkfs, depends on the type
[04:02] <BlueEagle> reiki: It doesn't get any cleaner than mkfs -t vfat /dev/sda1
[04:02] <reiki> ok
[04:02] <newubuntuuser> I need to format my HD, so I can start using it with ubuntu
[04:02] <DonL> Start a linux install, let it get to the point where it wipes everything, and then stop it
[04:02] <BlueEagle> reiki: removing the partition and creating it again won't do much at all. It might not even be supported. :)
[04:02] <DonL> Oh. Just install Ubuntu then
[04:02] <thoreauputic> newubuntuuser: you don't need to - the installer will take care of it
[04:02] <BlueEagle> reiki: (ie the drive might have a set and uneditable partition table that contains exactly one partition
[04:02] <BlueEagle> )
[04:03] <newubuntuuser> I'm using thge Live disk right now, and want to have the HD ready
[04:03] <Gobbla> .............
[04:03] <reiki> ok well I can't do it because "sda1 contains a mounted file system.... NO KIDDING!!!... hehehehe
[04:03] <newubuntuuser> Ahh! Okay!  Thanks! See you later... gotta go and install
[04:03] <thoreauputic> newubuntuuser: see above
[04:03] <newubuntuuser> :-)
[04:03] <DonL> I've used the install feature on Linux distros in the past to wipe the hard drive for people who were going to windows
[04:03] <Keizer> Sup guys
[04:04] <Keizer> Why can't my Orinoco Gold card detect ESSIDs?
[04:04] <reiki> BlueEagle, I'm gonna yank the drive out. I can't unmount it, I can't reformat it, ... and now it's making me lose my patience
[04:04] <DonL> Keizer, Orinoco Gold sounds like something to smoke
[04:04] <Keizer> DonL, It's an awesome card
[04:04] <DonL> lol
[04:04] <nfinitep1astik> can anyone help me with trying to make my sound become louder with master and pcm turned all the way up already?
[04:04] <Keizer> I have a 10.5 antenna for it.
[04:05] <cobhcf> gorilla: am downloading 5.04 now
[04:05] <Gobbla> does anybody know if they plan on doing some more ubuntu calendars, that white chick is hawt...
[04:05] <Keizer> nfinitep1astik, With headphones?
[04:05] <cobhcf> i will use nero this time to burn it to a disk
[04:05] <nfinitep1astik> Keizer: negative.....with the onboard sound....but it's very quiet and i know it can go louder
[04:05] <thoreauputic> nfinitep1astik: pcm turned up all the way will probably distort horribly - 75-80% is about right normally
[04:06] <DonL> Well, must go. Night folks
[04:06] <nfinitep1astik> thoreauputic: correct....but for explanation purposes...all the way up was easier ^.^
[04:08] <bobert> what's the hotkey to switch virtural desktops?
[04:08] <nfinitep1astik> lol
[04:08] <bobert> it's normally ctrl+fn
[04:08] <thoreauputic> dbernar1: heheh
[04:08] <Gobbla> uhm?
[04:08] <xTina> Anyone around with a (preferably fresh) install of breezy and a realplayer (either the one directly from real.com or the one out of hoary-extras) that does _not_ have UI performance issues while streaming?
[04:09] <Gobbla> haha, what did i do that was so inhumane?
[04:09] <dbernar1> Gobbla: your "white chick is hawt" comment is out of demarcations:p
[04:09] <thoreauputic> bobert: ctrl-alt-arrow
[04:09] <Gobbla> yeh, riiiiiiight....
[04:09] <bobert> thoreauputic, thanks
[04:09] <thoreauputic> Gobbla: he has a point, you know
[04:10] <xTina> or alternatively, anyone with breezy willing to try it :)
[04:10] <dbernar1> but, on another point...........
[04:10] <Gobbla> whats so wrong about finding someone attractive?
[04:10] <bobert> it doesnt happen to people on IRC? :P
[04:11] <thoreauputic> Gobbla: I think it was the other part that was problematic
[04:11] <jdermer> the white part ?
[04:11] <Gobbla> so im like.. a racist for not finding a woman, who happens to be black, is unattractive, or what?
[04:11] <jdermer> cause im white and i was so offended lol
[04:11] <jdermer> lol
[04:11] <dbernar1> on another note....
[04:11] <thoreauputic> Gobbla: leave it - no biggie
[04:12] <dbernar1> it was just a witty comment...
[04:12] <Gobbla> no please tell me
[04:12] <Gobbla> im dying to know
[04:13] <Gobbla> jdermer: im something, not sure what yet, for finding a white chick hot and not finding a black woman hot...
[04:13] <thoreauputic> Gobbla: notice that no ops appeared: as I said, not a big issue
[04:14] <jdermer> wait
[04:14] <jdermer> if ure white
[04:14] <thoreauputic> Gobbla: it's OK
[04:14] <jdermer> then y would u say that the white chick is hot
[04:14] <jdermer> lol
[04:14] <Gobbla> dbernar1: you do that
[04:15] <Gobbla> I just found it a bit amusing :)
[04:15] <dbernar1> that was the intended part...
[04:15] <bobert> what packages do I need to be able to compile QT applications on Ubuntu?
[04:15] <thoreauputic> OK - this is a mild warning - if you want to debate it do so in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:15] <johndarkhorse> Gobbla: jdermer #ubuntu-offtopic with that stuff, please
[04:15] <thoreauputic> yup
[04:16] <Knowledge_> okkk....been a while since I've had a problem but here goes
[04:16] <Gobbla> im done
[04:16] <dbernar1> johndarkhorse: how come I never saw you before? did you replt?
[04:16] <johndarkhorse> dbernar1: i sent you a /notice
[04:16] <jdermer> oy gevalt
[04:16] <bobert> I've installed qt3-apps-dev and qt-dev-tools, however its obviously not enough :\
[04:16] <dbernar1> I dont think I got it.
[04:16] <Knowledge_> (EE) Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics touchpad detected...etc, and X will not start
[04:17] <dawynn> Is it possible to pull down mail from a Hotmail account into a Linux mail reader (esp. Thunderbird?)
[04:17] <chipmunk> hi
[04:17] <chipmunk> i have a problem iwth ubuntu
[04:17] <chipmunk> can someone help me
[04:17] <vedasisme> is there some sort of disc partitioning tutorial somewhere?
[04:17] <Gobbla> dbernar1: i got that
[04:17] <johndarkhorse> dawynn: it is, but requires and intermediary program to do it
[04:17] <dawynn> chipmunk -- can you be more specific?
[04:17] <chipmunk> im from Philippines
[04:18] <chipmunk> my porblem is....
[04:18] <Gobbla> it was the "hes got a point" that got me thinking, but now, lets leave it then.
[04:18] <dawynn> johndarkhorse -- what do you mean "intermediary program"?
[04:18] <johndarkhorse> dawynn: hotmail is a pop access only mail system
[04:18] <chipmunk> with i install the driver for my NIVIDIA VIdeo card, the system will hang =( how can i fix this?
[04:18] <Knowledge_> anyone know what I could do about me little problem?
[04:19] <johndarkhorse> dawynn: so you need 'hotpops' or some other pop gathering mail program, so you can point your pop3 client at IT
[04:19] <dbernar1> Knowledge_: thats all you are going to tell us about the issue?^
[04:19] <dawynn> chipmunk -- are you installing the ubuntu nvidia drivers or the drivers from the nvidia site?
[04:19] <nfinitep1astik> can anyone help me with trying to make my sound become louder with master and pcm turned all the way up already?
[04:19] <Knowledge_> dbernar1: what more can I tell you?
[04:19] <vedasisme> is there some sort of disc partitioning tutorial somewhere?
[04:19] <chipmunk> ubuntu nvidia drivers
[04:19] <pepperpot> I lost my scroll wheel functionality, and I check xorg.conf to make sure I have Options "Buttons" "7" and zaxismapping
[04:19] <dbernar1> Knowledge_: has it ever worked on this system. What have you tried. what did you do to do this if it had worked...
[04:19] <chipmunk> when i was using mandriva linux yesterday also it also hang
[04:20] <johndarkhorse> vedasisme: use qtparted or gparted. it's pretty self-explanatory
[04:20] <chipmunk> when i was using mandriva linux yesterday also it also hang when i installed the vidoe card driver
[04:20] <thoreauputic> vedasisme: have you tried googling " linux partitioning howto" ?
[04:20] <Knowledge_> dbernar1: yeap, worked this morning, and the past 3 months that I've had Ubuntu installed, now...just today the computer started acting funny, and I restarted...and it gave me that problem
[04:21] <thoreauputic> vedasisme: there is a lot of info on partitoning out there
[04:21] <Keizer> Has anyone gotten NetworkManager to work in the Breezey version of Ubuntu?
[04:21] <Knowledge_> dbernar1: the only thing I could think of is maybe the auto update...one of them was a linux kernel image
[04:21] <dawynn> chipmunk -- see the note on the nvidia-glx package.  (Make sure you have nvidia-glx installed)  You need to run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[04:21] <vedasisme> ok
[04:21] <dbernar1> Knowledge_: is this a laptop, is that what a touchpad is, the mouse thing on laptops?
[04:21] <cevizoglu> after reading the realplayer install instructions on the restricted formats wiki, I still am not sure how to make it work.  where are the swf plugins?
[04:21] <Knowledge_> dbernar1 yeah
[04:21] <dbernar1> Knowledge_: and X never starts?
[04:22] <Knowledge_> dbernar1 Nope, that's all it gives me for an error
[04:22] <dbernar1> Knowledge_: how can you know your touchpad/mouse does not work if you never get to X.
[04:22] <thoreauputic> cevizoglu: in the plugins directory of the install directory iirc
[04:22] <Knowledge_> says "preinit failed for input device"
[04:22] <chipmunk> dawynn-- yes i enabled it and it went hang that s why i re installed the whole Ubuntu Breedgy now
[04:22] <funkyHat> what apache module is needed for generating tabbed sections in web pages? :S (the kind you get in the mambo administration module, if anyone's familiar with that)
[04:23] <dbernar1> Knowledge_: what do you have in your sources.list, paste to paste.ubuntulinux.nl .
[04:23] <Knowledge_> dbernar1: only what's on the ubuntuguide site, copied and pasted.
[04:23] <dbernar1> Knowledge_: paste a URL for me to see.
[04:23] <dbernar1> s/paste/post
[04:24] <Knowledge_> http://www.ubuntuguide.com
[04:24] <thoreauputic> cevizoglu: that would be in the diretory named RealPlayer (wherever you installed it)
[04:24] <dawynn> chipmunk -- when it "hangs", can you even ctrl-alt-f2 into a separate virtual terminal?
[04:24] <dbernar1> nono, there are several sources.lists there, Knowledge_ .
[04:24] <dbernar1> +its.org
[04:24] <Knowledge_> .org* sorry, and I only know of one
[04:24] <Knowledge_> yeah
[04:25] <dbernar1> Knowledge_: you are not very knowledgeable about how to use backports.
[04:25] <Knowledge_> dbernar1: never said I was
[04:25] <ubuntu> Hello there!  Dumb Newbie question - How do I access my WINxp drives with ubunntu? It doesnt seem to see them
[04:25] <dbernar1> that is why I told you you are not.
[04:26] <dbernar1> Knowledge_: having backports uncommented and having an automatic upgrade set up is like, calling to get your system borked.
[04:26] <chipmunk> dawynn -- ahm, i didnt tried it yet cos this is a new installation of Ubuntu due to i reformated it because it keeps hang in the first one when i installed the NVIDIA Video Driver and enabled it =(
[04:26] <thoreauputic> dbernar1: Knowledge_ before this escalates, stop it please
[04:26] <dbernar1> Now...what could be done...
[04:26] <johndarkhorse> !tell ubuntu about ntfs
[04:27] <johndarkhorse> ubuntu: ubotu sent you a msg, read it please
[04:27] <dbernar1> Knowledge_: it was not intended as an offense...
[04:27] <dbernar1> just as a statement of facts.
[04:28] <dbernar1> thoreauputic: read a little from the link in ubotu's ask factoid...
[04:28] <bz0b> hey guys
[04:28] <chipmunk> dawynn-- Its like this, the whole desktop freezed but the desktop os still visible but hang or freezed =(
[04:28] <thoreauputic> dbernar1: just be a bit more sensitive - no need to imply others are clueless
[04:28] <dbernar1> No, I just told him what the issue is...
[04:28] <dawynn> chipmunk: I'm sorry I don't know.  Perhaps your card is newer than the driver is ready for?
[04:28] <dbernar1> anyhow, ok, Ill be nicer next time:)
[04:28] <thoreauputic> dbernar1: I'm not going to debate the point with you
[04:29] <thoreauputic> dbernar1: OK :)
[04:29] <dbernar1> thoreauputic: read that URL a little though, serious, it is a very cool read.
[04:29] <chipmunk> dawynn -- i see, but my card is old =( its Geforce 2 64mb NVIDIA. thats why im so confused..i guessed i need to configure something after installation in order it not to hang? =(
[04:29] <dawynn> johndarkhorse: can you point me to a website with hotpops or similar software?
[04:30] <thoreauputic> dbernar1: I have :)
[04:30] <dbernar1> ok. good.
[04:30] <dbernar1> I am refering to the part where it says...how sometimes people that you talk to sound rude, and no manners...but, really, they are just stating fact, with no red tape...
[04:30] <AussieBen> I need help with an Ubuntu install which buggering up. Any takers?
[04:31] <dawynn> chipmunk: I'm sorry I don't know.  The switch to the nvidia packages worked very well for me.  Anyone else have more experience dealing with Nvidia cards?
[04:31] <sofia> hi have a problem with vhcs
[04:31] <sofia> i cant get it to create users
[04:31] <thoreauputic> yeah, I follow you: but remember that a lot of people in here are *very* new and not accustomed to the "hacker" way of doing things  :)
[04:31] <chipmunk> dawynn -- i see, but my card is old =( its Geforce 2 64mb NVIDIA. thats why im so confused..i guessed i need to configure something after installation in order it not to hang? Help me=(  Cos i love Ubuntu and Im going to endrose this in my fellow friends here in the Philippines who have internet cafes becuase I too is going to use this in my Internet cafe cos its very very nice OS
[04:32] <ubuntu> ubotu - thanks for the help - the instructions for mounting the ntfs partitions worked great
[04:32] <ubotu> ubuntu: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[04:32] <johndarkhorse> dawynn: search http://sourceforge.net
[04:32] <thoreauputic> !tell ubuntu about ubotu
[04:32] <cevizoglu> anyone know what kind of server setup amazon uses?
[04:32] <sofia> someone knows how to use vhcs
[04:32] <chipmunk> not like windows which has many holes and most here in the Philippines cant afford to buy
[04:33] <dbernar1> !tell ubuntu about ask the bot
[04:33] <cevizoglu> yes, I know my question is off-topic unless they use ubuntu, but they might ;)
[04:33] <hydrogen> how can I change the order in which my sound cards get detected?
[04:33] <dbernar1> hydrogen: perhaps in the bios
[04:34] <hydrogen> dbernar1: no.. Its a linux setting... I know cause I've modified in other distros... just not sure how to modify here
[04:34] <chipmunk> hu hu hu T_T
[04:34] <hydrogen> I need to pass options to alsa module
[04:34] <dbernar1> there is no vhcs package, that sofia was talking about.
[04:34] <nickrud> something very strange has just happened: I've completely lost my grub directory under boot :(
[04:34] <johndarkhorse> cevizoglu: you may google "what's that server running" and start your quest
[04:35] <dbernar1> nickrud: what did you do to it?
[04:36] <nickrud> dbernar1, an update in breezy. I'd put it off for a while.
[04:36] <dbernar1> :P
[04:36] <nickrud> heh
[04:36] <dbernar1> is the best I can do anyhow... hope that helps...
[04:37] <nickrud> that'll teach me to keep my backups up to date
[04:37] <jsubl2> !find xlib.h
[04:37] <pr1r> hey can someone help me figure out why rythymbox isnt working.,.. i just installed  ubuntu today so im kinda new
[04:38] <Madpilot> pr1r: define "isn't working" for us?
[04:38] <IceDC571> pr1r have you tried typing rhythmbox in the terminal?
[04:38] <IceDC571> tell us what errors you get from there
[04:38] <pr1r> definitely not
[04:38] <IceDC571> most likely its a dependency error.. hopefully
[04:39] <pr1r> gst-register
[04:39] <IceDC571> oh wait.. rhythmbox.. nevermind, that comes with gnome
[04:39] <IceDC571> im stupid
[04:39] <nickrud> could a grub expert tell me that apt-get install --reinstall grub will work, as long as I build my menu.lst by hand correctly?
[04:39] <dbernar1> I had that one. the error.
[04:39] <pr1r> yeah i just installed on laptop
[04:39] <Madpilot> IceDC571: was about to point that out to you... ;)
[04:39] <pr1r> friend recommended this
[04:39] <Keizer> Why would my Orinoco Gold card not be able to see an AP?
[04:39] <Madpilot> pr1r: so what isn't working?
[04:39] <pr1r> never even looked at lin ux before
[04:39] <pr1r> most of the programs
[04:39] <Keizer> In Windows it finds APs no problem
[04:39] <dbernar1> pr1r: open a terminal, know how?
[04:40] <pr1r> they all usually end up saying
[04:40] <Keizer> On Linux I can't get it to find anything.
[04:40] <IceDC571> hah.. just tell us what isnt working
[04:40] <pr1r> did you run gst-register
[04:40] <pr1r> i know how to ope terminal
[04:40] <pr1r> terminal is open
[04:40] <dbernar1> gst-register-0.8 and enter, are likely to fix your issue.
[04:40] <pr1r> ty
[04:40] <pr1r> ill try
[04:41] <dbernar1> tm when it works:)
[04:41] <pr1r> ok its adding a bunch of stuff
[04:41] <dazvid> pr1r: Whats the exact problem?
[04:41] <thoreauputic> pr1r: if you wnat to play mp3 with rhythmbox install gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:41] <pr1r> says loaded plugins wity # features
[04:41] <dbernar1> ok, now you likely wont get that same error, go test.
[04:41] <pr1r> ok
[04:42] <pr1r> wow
[04:42] <pr1r> thank you
[04:42] <pr1r> soooo much
[04:42] <paxmaster> is there a way to split a tar file in to chucks I have a tar about 20 GB and i want break it to peace so it will fit to dvd
[04:42] <dbernar1> hehe, no doubt, thats easy, stay for a while you will set up a lot with help from #ubuntu.
[04:42] <pr1r> im definitely diggin this os
[04:42] <dbernar1> It is pretty, I think.
[04:42] <thoreauputic> !tell pr1r about docs
[04:43] <felix_> how do you install beep meda player
[04:43] <felix_> media
[04:43] <pr1r> docs?
[04:43] <thoreauputic> pr1r: the url ubotu sent you will help too
[04:43] <felix_> how do you install bmp?
[04:43] <nfinitep1astik> anyone with mac experience help me with my alsa issue?
[04:43] <franktr> felix_: use apt-get
[04:43] <AussieBen> Would someone please help me with an Ubuntu installatio that keeps segment faulting?
[04:43] <thoreauputic> pr1r: it's an index of the wiki help
[04:44] <pr1r> oh thanks
[04:44] <pr1r> checkin it out ow
[04:44] <thoreauputic> :)
[04:44] <felix_> franktr: yo dude, i dunno how to get it, i know apt-get gets programs, but if anyone has bmp tell me how they got it
[04:44] <pr1r> the tattoo shbop i work at is kinda busy right now... im waiting on someone to leave so i can unplug them from the router
[04:44] <franktr> mitch to be honest i dont know im here to make fun of you
[04:44] <pr1r> so things are loading a bit slow
[04:44] <paxmaster> anyone out there who could give me a hand
[04:44] <franktr> anyone know how to get bmp on ubuntu?
[04:45] <dabaRCo> man tar?
[04:45] <thoreauputic> !info beep-media-player
[04:45] <ubotu> beep-media-player: (Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.9.7-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 893 kB, Installed size: 3712 kB
[04:45] <franktr> im not sure whether ubuntu is like debian where they hate mp3 because of the proprietary crap
[04:45] <thoreauputic> franktr: you need the universe repo
[04:45] <nfinitep1astik> anyone with mac experience help me with my alsa issue?
[04:45] <felix_> !info me
[04:45] <thoreauputic> !tell franktr about mp3
[04:45] <dabaRCo> franktr: it is not about hate...
[04:45] <franktr> thoreauputic: got a wiki paqge?
[04:46] <nickrud> franktr, it's not hate, it's self protection
[04:46] <franktr> dabaRCo: i choser the word because its easier to use hehe
[04:46] <lakcaj> Does anyone know why alsaconf is not in alsa-utils?
[04:46] <thoreauputic> franktr: just gave you the URL through ubotu
[04:46] <cevizoglu> nfiniteplastik: just ask your question - and it's an ubuntu-ppc problem, not a mac problem per se
[04:46] <thoreauputic> lakcaj: it apparently "caused more problems than it solved"
[04:46] <nickrud> so, no grub experts. Back to lilo for a bit, I guess
[04:46] <nfinitep1astik> cevizoglu: thanks j0, i'll try
[04:47] <dabaRCo> franktr: mp3 support is not installed by default, and is in universe, where it belongs. https://ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[04:47] <franktr> nickrud:
[04:47] <franktr> whats up
[04:47] <nickrud> what's up, is setting myself up on an unstable platform, and now I gotta deal with it :)
[04:48] <franktr> ok what problem do you have with grub'
[04:48] <nfinitep1astik> well, i've installed alsa and vlc correctly but my sound plays quietly through my speakers no matter if i keep it at 80% at master and pcm
[04:48] <setite-SFD> !uninstall
[04:48] <ubotu> setite-SFD: No idea
[04:48] <setite-SFD> grrr
[04:48] <nickrud> I lost it all.
[04:49] <cevizoglu> nfiniteplastik: i get the same problem until I unplug and plugin the cable in again, but turn the sound down first!!!
[04:49] <nickrud> :)
[04:49] <^cyber_junkie^> hi all
[04:49] <johndarkhorse> nickrud: you've only lost grub
[04:49] <johndarkhorse> nickrud: your stuff is still there
[04:49] <franktr> just boot to a restore cd
[04:49] <johndarkhorse> nickrud: i had a HD crater on me and lost 26gb of stuff LOST
[04:49] <franktr> or use the live cd and chroot to your root drive
[04:49] <^cyber_junkie^> i got the Ubuntu ISO from the Ubuntu website.... but the checksums are different.. does this happen all the time?
[04:49] <cevizoglu> nfiniteplastik: booting with the cable plugged in somehow makes it quieter than it would otherwise be
[04:49] <franktr> re run grub
[04:49] <Madpilot> back later, all.
[04:49] <zorba64> nickrud: sud grub-install /dev/hd?
[04:49] <BlankB> what app should I use to capture video as mpeg4?
[04:50] <zorba64> sud=sudo
[04:50] <nickrud> johndarkhorse, I know, I was in the midst of reorganizing my kernels, and took a standard look at /boot, and, low and behold, there was no grub directory
[04:50] <paxmaster> is there a way to split a tar file in to chucks I have a tar about 20 GB and i want break it to peace so it will fit to dvd
[04:50] <k-0tik> does anyone knwo if you can compile C on ubuntu when its for windows and suses windows.h
[04:50] <k-0tik> ?
[04:50] <nfinitep1astik> cevizoglu: actually, just let me thank you for trying to helpme......but im trying to play it through my ibook speakers
[04:50] <lakcaj> thoreauputic, thanks.  I'm currently on a debian sarge machine, where alasconf is available.  Quite often, and ubuntu user will ask for help in #debian, or I will try to help in here.  For me, alsaconf has always worked, so I'm wondering, how is someone supposed to configure audio in ubuntu?
[04:50] <nickrud> reinstalling got me back /boot/grub/<some files>, but no menu.lst
[04:50] <cevizoglu> nfiniteplastik: don't know about that one
[04:51] <nickrud> didn't really expect it :)
[04:51] <^cyber_junkie^> this is the second i d/loaded today.. and the checksums are different
[04:51] <nfinitep1astik> cevizoglu: lol...then thank you for your time
[04:51] <^cyber_junkie^> i tried both 5.04 and 5.10
[04:51] <AussieBen> During 'Install the base system' I get 'Unable to install initrd-tools' and the installation fails. Can anyone help me out?
[04:51] <cevizoglu> nfiniteplastik: I might try stopping and starting the sound manager
[04:51] <delltony> question how do you get /dev/sequencer to work i tried doing MAKEDEV sequencer but it didn't work any ideas
[04:51] <dabaRCo> ^cyber_junkie^: what method do you use for download, http?
[04:52] <johndarkhorse> nickrud: as mentioned, you can rebuild your menu.lst
[04:52] <nfinitep1astik> cevizoglu: may i ask how about going about that?
[04:52] <^cyber_junkie^> dabarco: yeah, dloaded from the website
[04:52] <dabaRCo> ^cyber_junkie^: use torrent.
[04:52] <^cyber_junkie^> dabarco: is it any differnt using torrent?
[04:52] <dabaRCo> cyphase: yes, no mismatches.
[04:52] <pr1r> torrents are the shit
[04:52] <dabaRCo> cyphase: and, much faster.
[04:52] <pr1r> yes
[04:52] <zorba64> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2066 ... copy and use/adjust to suit
[04:52] <pr1r> so much better
[04:52] <^cyber_junkie^> hmm, ok
[04:53] <nickrud> johndarkhorse, yes. My question is, does apt-get install --reinstall get me everything I need except for menu.lst, and ....
[04:53] <^cyber_junkie^> also the check sum thing - anything specific to check
[04:53] <D1> does anyone have a STANDALONE scanner they use in ubuntu?
[04:53] <vladuz976> anybody know how to copy dvds on harddrive?
[04:53] <felix_> what do i do after i un comment in universe?
[04:53] <nickrud> johndarkhorse, ty, you've saved me a bit of work
[04:53] <setite-SFD> is there something on the wiki about uninstalling ubuntu
[04:53] <D1> do apt-get update
[04:53] <franktr> yea thats the comman
[04:54] <dabaRCo> setite-SFD: yea.
[04:54] <cevizoglu> nfiniteplastik: not sure, I've never needed to do it, and it might not help, but it's worth a try
[04:54] <nickrud> johndarkhorse, so, can you use some 10,000 rpm scsi 9.1GB drives :)
[04:54] <franktr> im at his house helping him. i personally dont use ubuntu/debian but im an avid arch linux user
[04:54] <funkyHat> setite-SFD, what do you want to install instead?
[04:54] <cevizoglu> nfiniteplastik: you may just be able to kill the process and run it again
[04:54] <setite-SFD> im not sure what yet... but i want to allocate less space
[04:54] <^cyber_junkie^> what abotu wireless  and my audio card will it work on ubuntu?
[04:54] <setite-SFD> ive allocated 60 gigs... it doesnt need that
[04:55] <pr1r> ok i got another question
[04:55] <setite-SFD> ^cyber_junkie^ - it may work... it may not... which do you have
[04:55] <pr1r> anti-virus program and spyware/malware program like adaware
[04:55] <pr1r> where do i go
[04:55] <pr1r> what do i get
[04:55] <pr1r> and i also heard of something called wine
[04:56] <pr1r> can i get wine and then use webroot?
[04:56] <^cyber_junkie^> setite: on my desktop - its integrated into my K8v motherboard
[04:56] <dabaRCo> pr1r: you jsut install programss from official repositories, and there is no viruses.
[04:56] <Bac9> anyone have experiance with gdm, specifically how to get a user list into it and how to get the userlist to show users?
[04:56] <nfinitep1astik> cevizoglu: thanks....but it didn't seem to work
[04:56] <^cyber_junkie^> setite: been a while since i messed around with that junk
[04:56] <pr1r> ok... ty
[04:56] <felix_> I still cannot apt-get bmp
[04:57] <^cyber_junkie^> what about on my Dell inspiron 700m
[04:57] <dabaRCo> felix_: well, what package manager are you using?
[04:57] <franktr> dabaRCo: hes using apt-get obviously. he uncommented univser
[04:57] <franktr> apt-get update
[04:57] <franktr> and still cannot find bmp
[04:58] <felix_> wut he said
[04:58] <dabaRCo> Bac9: ya, I do. you want a list of possible users, and pictures for their faces instead the question marks?
[04:58] <nickrud> felix_, did you try beep-media-player?
[04:58] <felix_> eys
[04:58] <felix_> thats what i tried first
[04:58] <dabaRCo> aptitude search beep.
[04:59] <^cyber_junkie^> will ubuntu be compatible with my dell inspiron 700m laptop?
[04:59] <Bac9> dabaRCo: pictures I don't care about, but a list of possible users I want
[04:59] <nickrud> felix_, if your sources are right, and you've done an aptitude update, that should be right
[05:00] <dabaRCo> its called a browser. in a terminal(cause I dont use gnome-panel any more...) type in sudo gdmconfig and then go to the graphical greeter tab, and set the happy gnome with browser. Bac9 in gnome-panel, I think its under System>Admin>Login Screen Setup.
[05:00] <nickrud> what's the current pastebin sources these days?
[05:01] <franktr> pastebin.com .....
[05:01] <zorba64> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[05:01] <felix_> nickrud, even wth i cannot find
[05:01] <Bac9> dabaRCo: does the standard greater have the browser?
[05:01] <nfinitep1astik> anyone have ppc experience that could help me with my alsa issue?
[05:01] <cevizoglu> nfiniteplastik: fwiw, I do get the same problem when I boot with my headphones plugged in.  unplugging and plugging them in again fixes the problem
[05:01] <Bac9> dabaRCo: I tried graphical greeter and some themes do have browser but it has no users in it
[05:02] <franktr> its not finding beep-media-player. at all
[05:02] <dabaRCo> what? the standard browser is the command line, I think...
[05:02] <AussieBen> And on the fith try, Gentoo simply decides not to error on initrd-tools.
[05:02] <dabaRCo> standard greeter...
[05:02] <AussieBen> How odd.
[05:02] <Bac9> dabaRCo: it's called gdmlogin
[05:03] <dabaRCo> the thing that comes up when you boot, Bac9 ?
[05:03] <lythia> I am having trouble mounting my other hard drive in ubuntu (120 gig ntfs)
[05:03] <nickrud> felix_, someone kindly pointed out that http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 is what your /etc/sources.list should look like; try that
[05:03] <Bac9> dabaRCo: in any case I don't really care which one I use as long as there's a user list with _actual_ users
[05:03] <yonkeltron> is it safe to install the skype deb on ubuntu or should i just use the tarball?
[05:03] <Bac9> dabaRCo: I tried both gdmlogin and gdmgreeter
[05:03] <nfinitep1astik> lythia: have you checked and updated your fstab?
[05:03] <dabaRCo> how do you try those, though?
[05:04] <thoreauputic> !tell yonkeltron about skype
[05:04] <snorks> !fstab
[05:04] <ubotu> snorks: I don't know
[05:04] <Bac9> dabaRCo: Greeter= parameter in gdm.conf
[05:04] <dabaRCo> Bac9: you played with that already?
[05:04] <lythia> nfiniteplastik yes, and when I tried to mount it, it said it was already mounted or busy.  I tried umount on it but it said it was not mounted :(
[05:05] <Bac9> dabaRCo: yeah, kinda, but can't get a user list at all in gdmlogin and in gdmgreeter the themes with userlist just bring up an empty list
[05:05] <zorba64> lythia: what does df show?
[05:05] <nfinitep1astik> lythia: does your bios correctly read your hdd?
[05:05] <dabaRCo> Bac9: did you back up the initial file?
[05:06] <zorba64> lythia: sudo modprobe ntfs might help also
[05:06] <Bac9> dabaRCo: I've not erased anything, just comented out what was there, so I kinda have the original
[05:06] <lythia> nfiniteplastik yes, and it posts and is in the device manager
[05:07] <dabaRCo> Bac9: well, what I would do, is restore the original. Then, I would set up the graphical greeter to happy gnome with browser, and that would give me what I understand you want./
[05:07] <nfinitep1astik> lythia: how do you have your hdd set to read? lba?
[05:07] <lythia> zorba64 df?
[05:07] <dabaRCo> you two, lythia, and nfinitep1astik, did you get the msg from ubotu?
[05:08] <felix_> bmp, thanks
[05:08] <lythia> dabaRCo yes
[05:08] <felix_> it worked hehe
[05:08] <nfinitep1astik> dabaRCo: i did not
[05:08] <Bac9> dabaRCo: I can set up "happy gnome with browser" but the browser list is empty
[05:08] <herbi> hi
[05:08] <herbi> a mate of mine just did an apt-get upgrade, and says he cant connect to the internet now
[05:08] <Bac9> dabaRCo: if I allow all users on the system to be there then it only finds two system users
[05:09] <herbi> any ideas on where to start troubleshooting?
[05:09] <Bac9> dabaRCo: it doesn't find any users above uid1000
[05:09] <dabaRCo> Bac9: well, that is strange. its just worked here before.
[05:09] <wickedpuppy> hey guys .. can k3b burn bin/cue files ?
[05:09] <Fonzi> hi
[05:09] <Fonzi> i just installed ubuntu
[05:09] <Bac9> dabaRCo: and everyone in #gnome on irc.gnome.org is sleeping
[05:09] <dabaRCo> herbi: yes, how are you communicating with him?
[05:09] <thoreauputic> wickedpuppy: you need the bchunk program I think
[05:09] <Bac9> dabaRCo: any advice?
[05:09] <dabaRCo> Bac9: no, not really...
[05:09] <thoreauputic> !info bchunk
[05:09] <ubotu> bchunk: (CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 12 kB, Installed size: 68 kB
[05:10] <Fonzi> can anyone help me figure out how to mount my second hard drive?
[05:10] <herbi> dabaR, phone
[05:10] <vader1102> Fonzi, is it an NTFS drive?
[05:10] <dabaR> herbi: well...
[05:10] <wickedpuppy> thanks thoreauputic
[05:10] <Fonzi> yes
[05:11] <vader1102> not supported from what I understand
[05:11] <Bac9> dabaRCo: know any place that I can get advice from?
[05:11] <chubbyman25> linux cannot mount NTFS drives
[05:11] <lythia> yay thank you
[05:11] <herbi> dabaR, ive been using debian for a long time, so im sure i can help him figure it out, i just thought someone mightve run into similar problems
[05:11] <nfinitep1astik> chubbyman25: yes it can
[05:11] <{GuNNeR}> is anyone here running amd64 version of ubuntu?
[05:11] <lythia> chubbyman25 well it just did my ntfs one
[05:11] <thoreauputic> chubbyman25: erm - yes it can
[05:11] <chubbyman25> really?
[05:11] <chubbyman25> ok
[05:11] <vader1102> {GuNNeR},  not I
[05:11] <zorba64> chubbyman25: it can so
[05:11] <Fonzi> hmm..i got it mounted as read only but i cant make it read/write
[05:12] <chubbyman25> maybe it just cant on mine cuz im using a ppc architecture
[05:12] <dabaR> herbi: no, I have not. I know how to trouble shoot Internet connections, so ask me if you want.
[05:12] <zorba64> Fonzi: yep...that is all you will get
[05:12] <nfinitep1astik> writing to an ntfs partition is still experimental
[05:12] <thoreauputic> Fonzi: write to NTFS is not supported
[05:12] <vader1102> Fonzi, sam here but I am working on getting it to read/write
[05:12] <zorba64> Fonzi: writing to ntfs will prob hose your data
[05:12] <str8edge> chubbyman25: depending on the driver, it is either read-only (most common) or read-write ( uses the ntfs.sys driver, highly experimental)
[05:12] <{GuNNeR}> vader: ah - yea Ipersonally don't want to use amd64 version but unfortunately the only wireless drivers I can get to run in ndiswrapper are the 64 bit, the 32 bit won't work in 32 bit mode
[05:12] <chubbyman25> ah
[05:12] <zcat[1] > captive works, but it takes a little setting up.
[05:13] <Fonzi> zorba: ok..thanks..i was just trying to give my user access and it kept saying it couldn't change the properties because it's a read only drive
[05:13] <vader1102> {GuNNeR},  I understand
[05:13] <{GuNNeR}> cursed broadcom
[05:13] <zcat[1] > s/little/lot
[05:13] <str8edge> chubbyman25: i have used the ntfs.sys method for read write access with hoary. if you don't follow the instructions properly, it _WILL_ hose your data.
[05:13] <Bac9> can someone help me get some users in the gdm browser? kdm has a userlist with correct users
[05:14] <zcat[1] > Fonzi: to give non-root users access you need different mount options.. not r/w access..
[05:14] <chubbyman25> i do have a question on running WineCVS...it's giving me an annoying error when i go to install it, it says there's an error in CVS checkout
[05:14] <chubbyman25> --------- Error log - file /root/.WineCVS/sources/cvscedega/ErrorLog : ---------/root/.WineCVS/Functions/RunWineCVS: line 736: cvs: command not found
[05:14] <str8edge> chubbyman25: I can't help, no need to run windows binaries on linux.
[05:14] <Fonzi> zcat: well i jusat went into the "disks" app under system/administration and used the gui to mount the drive
[05:15] <nfinitep1astik> anyone have ppc experience that could help me with my alsa issue?
[05:15] <lythia> nfiniteplastik and dabarco:  thanks for your help - it was hdc5 and I was just doing hdc
[05:15] <chubbyman25> ok...i was running on a ppc that's why i wanted to do it
[05:15] <chipmunk> wa
[05:15] <chipmunk> my totem player wont open, y is this so?
[05:15] <dabaR> lythia: that script is actually good.
[05:16] <lenoxmo> someone have an scaner SNAPSCAN E10
[05:16] <lenoxmo>
[05:16] <lythia> dabarco very good :D
[05:16] <vanberge> anybody know... is that comprehensive development tool called "eclipse" ?
[05:16] <SlicerDicer-> can somebody look at what the latest version of mythtv is?
[05:16] <thoreauputic> chipmunk: try typing totem in a terminal and see if it gives errors
[05:16] <chipmunk> oh
[05:16] <chipmunk>  ok ok
[05:16] <chipmunk> il try
[05:17] <lenoxmo> SOMEBODY HAVE AN SNANNER?
[05:17] <lenoxmo> :'(
[05:17] <DaSkreech> Any plans for a Ebuntu? :-)
[05:17] <thoreauputic> lenoxmo: don't shout, and please be patient
[05:17] <chipmunk> this is what goes out...
[05:17] <chipmunk> chipmunk il try
[05:17] <chipmunk> lenoxmo SOMEBODY HAVE AN SNANNER?
[05:17] <chipmunk> * DaSkreech<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[05:18] <dabaRCo> DaSkreech: whats taht?
[05:18] <lenoxmo> oh im sorry :(
[05:18] <chipmunk> ops
[05:18] <chipmunk> sorry
[05:18] <chipmunk> wait...
[05:18] <lenoxmo> chipmunk
[05:18] <chipmunk> hipmunk@WORKGROUP:~$ totem
[05:18] <chipmunk> (totem:8017): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[05:18] <chipmunk> (totem:8017): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[05:18] <chipmunk> (totem:8017): Gnome-WARNING **: Accessibility: failed to find module 'libgail-gnome' which is needed to make this application accessible
[05:18] <chipmunk> GTK Accessibility Module initialized
[05:18] <DaSkreech> chipmunk: Huh?
[05:18] <chipmunk> (totem:8017): Gnome-WARNING **: Accessibility: failed to find module 'libatk-bridge' which is needed to make this application accessible
[05:18] <chipmunk> (totem:8017): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[05:18] <tritium> chipmunk, don't paste
[05:18] <chipmunk> (totem:8017): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[05:18] <chipmunk> Segmentation fault
[05:18] <SlicerDicer-> ouch spam.....
[05:18] <SlicerDicer-> no no no
[05:18] <thoreauputic> chipmunk: please stop using enter all the time - it spams the channel
[05:18] <chipmunk> ops! hahahaha. soryy
[05:18] <chipmunk> sory admin
[05:19] <dabaR> chipmunk: in a terminal, please type in sudo killall totem && rm ~/.totem* && totem
[05:19] <chipmunk> ok il try
[05:19] <chipmunk> it said no process killed
[05:19] <SlicerDicer-> can somebody look at what the latest version of mythtv please :)
[05:19] <thoreauputic> chipmunk: and don't paste your errors here - read the channel topic
[05:20] <thoreauputic> !paste
[05:20] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:20] <tritium> SlicerDicer-, what do you mean/
[05:20] <tritium> ?
[05:20] <chipmunk> ok sorry
[05:20] <dabaR> DaSkreech: what is ebuntu?
[05:20] <lenoxmo> thoreauputic can u help me?
[05:20] <nfinitep1astik> can someone with ibook hardware experience help me with an alsa issue?
[05:20] <dabaR> chipmunk: ya, damn, bad idea.
[05:20] <tritium> SlicerDicer-, 0.18.1 in breezy
[05:20] <chipmunk> ok
[05:20] <dabaR> chipmunk: in a terminal, please type in rm ~/.totem* && totem
[05:20] <chipmunk> any other idea sir?
[05:20] <DaSkreech> dabaR: Kubuntu with E?
[05:20] <SlicerDicer-> tritium, thanks
[05:20] <chipmunk> ok ok il try
[05:20] <SlicerDicer-> thats all I needed to know
[05:20] <dabaR> DaSkreech: Enlightenment, I suppose...
[05:21] <DaSkreech> Yup yup
[05:21] <thoreauputic> !tell lenoxmo about ask
[05:21] <vader1102> nfinitep1astik, I use an IMAC @ work with Ubuntu but that is there and I am here
[05:21] <chipmunk> !paste
[05:21] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:21] <Fonzi> does ubuntu come with a default root password cause i dont remember it asking me for one
[05:21] <lenoxmo> someone have an scanner snapscan e10??
[05:21] <DaSkreech> Spent quite a months getting people hooked on Ubuntu
[05:21] <chipmunk> ops
[05:21] <vanberge> Fonzi, no... use sudo
[05:21] <DaSkreech> Spent last week getting people hooked on ELive
[05:21] <lenoxmo> i want to install it but with apt ,can i make it?
[05:21] <vanberge> then just type your user passwd
[05:21] <dabaR> nfinitep1astik: what is the issue, though...
[05:21] <lenoxmo> i know nothing!
[05:21] <nfinitep1astik> vader1102: well, if you dont mind, i'll look you up next time in caseyou are at work ^-^
[05:21] <thoreauputic> lenoxmo: you won't get any answers unless you make your questions better
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[07:33] (Ice9/#ubuntu) dabarco - yes please
[07:33] (hondje/#ubuntu) Madeye: No
[07:33] (ubuntu/#ubuntu)  can someone point me to a howto on setting up a all-in-one scanner... it is a HP R-40...I am running breezy preview...
[07:33] (shadeofgrey/#ubuntu) okay.  whas the procedure for installing .ttf fonts in ubuntu?
[07:33] (shadeofgrey/#ubuntu) is that somethingexplained at www.ubuntuguide.org?
[07:33] (thoreauputic/#ubuntu) shadeofgrey: type fonts:/// in nautilus, dump them in
[07:33] <hondje> shadeofgrey: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[07:33] <hondje> thoreauputic: oooooh, sexy
[07:33] <Madpilot> ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[07:34] <hondje> thoreauputic: not global though, is it?
[07:34] <dabaRCo> Ice9: sudo aptitude install ez-ipupdate it is in universe, you may haev to ask ubotu about repos
[07:34] <thoreauputic> hondje: not sure on that
[07:34] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: so, this happens only in vlc player, while playing .avi files. and mp3's play fine?
[07:34] <shadeofgrey> p.s. - by the way -does anybody know the person that built ubuntuguide.org?  ....some of its content is horrendously dated
[07:34] <Ice9> I've got the repos
[07:34] <hondje> the important thing is we don't have to use XFS anymore
[07:34] <dabaRCo> Ice9: also, create a dyndns account, it takes like 30 minutes all together.
[07:34] <thoreauputic> hondje: probably not since it's done as a user
[07:34] <robotgeek> !ubuntuguide
[07:34] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[07:34] <darknature> how do you change the look of icons?
[07:34] <dabaRCo> Ice9: dyndns.org.
[07:35] <Ice9> dabarco - got one of those already
[07:35] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: actually,i dont know...i dont have mp3s to try
[07:35] <shadeofgrey> what does msttcorefonts do?
[07:35] <azazel_ubuntu> is there a way to get rhythmbox to rescan your library for changes? or do you have to remove all music, and re-add it all again?
[07:35] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: the new FAQ guide is coming with Breezy
[07:35] <hondje> shadeofgrey: installs a bunch of MS .ttf fonts
[07:35] <hondje> shadeofgrey: like arial, TNR, all those
[07:35] <WhiteRabbit> is that really true you can't offer any guides but the offical ubuntu guide... https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:35] <shadeofgrey> okay.
[07:35] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: letme copy over a few
[07:35] <hondje> and comic sans is NOT A FONT
[07:35] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: just download a test.mp3 from google :)
[07:35] <dabaRCo> Ice9: no way? and a domain name?
[07:35] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: grabs fonts from the net, basically (or local directories)
[07:36] <Madpilot> hondje: bancomicsans.org, I think...
[07:36] <miko77> what player do i use to play mp3's?
[07:36] <thoreauputic> !tell miko77 about mp3
[07:36] <Ice9> dabarco - yes, I have a domain
[07:36] <Madpilot> !tell miko77 about mp3
[07:36] <robotgeek> miko77: rhythmbox, or beep-media-player!
[07:36] <edilooks> hi dabarco its me chipmunk with my cousins nickname here =>) this is the ubuntu  hedgehog now tht u have told me =)
[07:36] <robotgeek> !tell me about mp3
[07:36] <shadeofgrey> more importantly -- i JUST updated to breezy - milestone4...  when the final versio  is released in midoctober, does that mean ill have to completely reinstall and wipe out the old partition?  or will i be able to just update the core components?
[07:36] <dabaRCo> Ice9: great, the ez-ipupdate installed?
[07:36] <Ice9> dabarco - yes
[07:36] <hondje> http://bancomicsans.com/home.html
[07:36] <dabaRCo> edilooks: hi. good stuff.
[07:37] <hondje> yay!
[07:37] <Tidus> i have a question.  how the heck do i install the nomachine NX client?  it's not in any ubuntu apt repository that i know of, and the source built version won't even run
[07:37] <edilooks> ya =) very nice =)
[07:37] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: the latter
[07:37] <dabaRCo> edilooks: anything that you need set up?
[07:38] <edilooks> dabarco its me chipmunk, try to surf and play www.miniclip.com if you have a fix there. please help friend cos there is no so called plug-in =(
[07:38] <thoreauputic> Tidus: most people use the one from the noMachine site (non-free, but works fine)
[07:38] <edilooks> its shockwave player and java thingy something
[07:38] <edilooks> i got problems with these stuff friend =(
[07:38] <Tidus> thoreauputic: it keeps giving me a weird error that libstdc++6 isn't installed, even when it is
[07:38] <dabaRCo> edilooks: sudo aptitude install mozilla-flashplayer
[07:39] <thoreauputic> Tidus: also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[07:39] <dabaRCo> Ice9: paste your ifconfig output to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:39] <Tidus> thoreauputic: i'm just looking into the client.
[07:39] <thoreauputic> Tidus: seveas has made debs for us
[07:39] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: actually, i needed to "copy" over a few from my "backup" drive
[07:39] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: okay, i just wanted to see if this was a specific vlc sound issue, or a sound issue in general
[07:39] <shadeofgrey> oh...  excellent.  also -- is there somebody on the ubuntu team that specializes in getting ubuntu up to acceptable assistive technology status -- I.E. im handicapped and wheelchair bound - has anybody worked on creating applications thatrun inthebackground designed to help folks with disabilities better utili zetheir computer (example:  sticky keys and screen magnifiucation, among many others?)
[07:40] <edilooks> is tht a shockwave player friend?
[07:40] <shadeofgrey> if so im willing to be a tester of such addons
[07:40] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: np, thank you sir for your time
[07:40] <Ice9> dabarco - sent
[07:40] <hondje> shadeofgrey: there was something on the -devel mailing list about that
[07:40] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: quick try, sudo killall esd and try the vlc-player again
[07:40] <delltony> anyone know where i can get a copy of transcode and mplayer for breezy?
[07:40] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: ok
[07:40] <hondje> shadeofgrey: I 'think' I read there's a team ... I had to fuss with it myself
[07:40] <dabaRCo> edilooks: yup, I am playing a game...
[07:40] <shadeofgrey> well
[07:41] <Utopiate> What is the pkg name of the kernel-source-6.8* for apt-get?
[07:41] <edilooks> wow!!!!
[07:41] <Utopiate> no matter what I type in apt can't find the kernel source...
[07:41] <edilooks> gonna try.yahooooo!
[07:41] <hondje> shadeofgrey: but the basics are already in place, such as magnification, sticky keys
[07:41] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: it said 'esd: no process killled'
[07:41] <hondje> on screen keyboard, screenreader, etc
[07:41] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: okay, gotta take the longer path to find out what's wrong :)
[07:42] <shadeofgrey> it would be great if somebody came up with a way to run dragon naturally speaking on ubuntu
[07:42] <robotgeek> isn't there a speech to text for linux?
[07:42] <hondje> IBMs speech thing runs on linux, it was included with mandrake 7.2
[07:42] <dabaRCo> Ice9: damn...I dont know how to set it up with a router...
[07:42] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: i tried an mp3 in vlc and it's the same
[07:42] <dreamer_> i need to find out if there is a root account?
[07:42] <herbi> hi guys
[07:42] <Utopiate> no matter what I type in apt can't find the kernel source...
[07:42] <herbi> a mate of mine did a apt-get upgrade
[07:42] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: okay, open up a terminal and type alsamixer
[07:42] <Tidus> dreamer_: it's there, but the standard install locks it and requests that you use sudo instead
[07:42] <shadeofgrey> ibm's viavoice blows rancid ardvark balls
[07:42] <herbi> and now, modules arent loading
[07:43] <Utopiate> dreamer_ root is disabled...
[07:43] <hondje> ViaVoice, that's the one
[07:43] <robotgeek> !tell dreamer_ about sudo
[07:43] <Utopiate> sudo passwd root
[07:43] <edilooks> have you tried the table tennis there friend dabarco? =)
[07:43] <Ice9> dabarco - it shouldn't matter, I'm in dmz mode
[07:43] <dreamer_> k cuz i have other hard drives i want to get to
[07:43] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: done
[07:43] <hondje> XVoice
[07:43] <herbi> i had to talk him through loading his network driver over the phone so he couldget back no the internet
[07:43] <dreamer_> ty
[07:43] <herbi> his sound card module isnt loading either
[07:43] <herbi> any ideas why?
[07:43] <dabaRCo> Ice9: ez-ipupdate listens to when a interface changes the IP address.
[07:43] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: what are the volume levels here: master etc
[07:43] <Tidus> i did the expert install and it even asked me for a root password instead of disabling it
[07:43] <edilooks> have you tried the table tennis there friend dabarco? =)
[07:43] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: try changing them and see if that works?
[07:43] <AzMoo> I have samba installed, but I'm having trouble sharing a directory. It's asking me for a password everytime I try to connect to my ubuntu box. How can I give everybody read access?
[07:43] <Utopiate> What is the pkg name of the kernel-source-6.8* for apt-get?
[07:44] <herbi> anybody?
[07:44] <zcat[1] > apt-cache search kernel
[07:44] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: some are already installed - magnifiers etc
[07:44] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: I'm not in gnome atm but I know there are options in the menus
[07:44] <robotgeek> Utopiate: apt-cache search kernel | grep source
[07:44] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: 84....90.....90....
[07:44] <herbi> dabaRCo, so i finally got him on the network, you reckon i can get some help? :)
[07:44] <shadeofgrey> okay guys heres a question for you..  anybody know of a linux equivelant to color schemer studio?  an application for finding harmonious colors?
[07:44] <Utopiate> Thank you robotgeek!
[07:44] <nickrud> shadeofgrey, http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-devel is where you should probably be looking
[07:45] <anu> can any one help onm copy vcd by ffmpeg
[07:45] <edilooks> it said "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[07:45] <Ice9> dabarco - is there no hope for me?
[07:45] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: okay, and this happens only in vlc and not any other player?
[07:45] <anu> can any one help onm copy vcd by ffmpeg
[07:45] <dabaRCo> edilooks: no, why dont you install that package and try yourself?
[07:45] <robotgeek> edilooks: shut down synaptic if you are running it.
[07:45] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: re: accessibility I found this on the wiki, if you haven't seen it ->> ttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AccessibilityHowto
[07:45] <robotgeek> edilooks: or any other apt processes
[07:46] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: no, just in vlc
[07:46] <edilooks> oh ok ok
[07:46] <edilooks> il try
[07:46] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: let me try xmms
[07:46] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: weird
[07:46] <dreamer_> it tells me that it is invalid
[07:46] <dabaRCo> Ice9: I just dont know how to set up that setup.
[07:46] <edilooks> ahm, im stil installing the wine..later after this friend =)
[07:46] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: oops ttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AccessibilityHowto
[07:46] <Selekta> jsut have a question, windows is really shitting me off, i have set up ubuntu on a few machine for other members of my family because they only use internet/msn messenger and would like to use it on my machine, but was wondering if there was an itunes clone so i can use my ipod with it?
[07:46] <herbi> does anyone have any idea how come my friends modules for network card/sound dont autodetect and load like they used to (after he did an apt-get upgrade)
[07:46] <thoreauputic> bah - add an "H" in front of the URL :)
[07:46] <herbi> Selekta, gtkpod
[07:47] <Selekta> sounds good,
[07:47] <Selekta> what's the UI like?
[07:47] <Tidus> thoreauputic: do you know where i can find an nxclient .deb compiled for ubuntu?  it's not in the repository that's mentioned in the wiki site you gave me
[07:47] <dreamer_> i can't seem to log in as root
[07:47] <Selekta> !ubotu sudo
[07:47] <ubotu> hmm... sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:47] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: it's the same in xmms
[07:47] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: try getting other sound plugins too, vlc-plugin-esd vlc-plugin-alsa etc and try again. or see if you can specify vlc to use only alsa. (my vlc is currently broken)
[07:47] <thoreauputic> Tidus: not off the top of my head, no - I used the one from noMachine
[07:48] <Tidus> thoreauputic: which one did you use.
[07:48] <thoreauputic> Tidus: but I tried it a while ago
[07:48] <anu> dreamer : u can set ur root password
[07:48] <dabaRCo> edilooks: how come you say friend in every post? do you guys do that in your language, something like that?
[07:48] <dreamer_> ?? it did not ask me for one
[07:48] <thoreauputic> Tidus: I honestly don't remember - I just tried it as an experiment - worked well
[07:48] <dreamer_> i need to be able to find my other hard drives
[07:48] <Madpilot> !tell dreamer_ about root
[07:49] <anu> dreamer :by using sudo root passwd in terminal and the enter new password
[07:49] <edilooks> hehe, its just i love freinds =)
[07:49] <edilooks> hehe
[07:49] <anu> dreamer : use su to login as root in terminal
[07:49] <dabaRCo> ok
[07:49] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: the only things i can think of being wrong is having the output plugin set wrong
[07:49] <dreamer_> i tried it said it was inncorrect
[07:49] <thoreauputic> dabaRCo: would you prefer "enemy" ? *grin*
[07:49] <DPG__> but you have none edilooks
[07:49] <edilooks> and ubuntu pepz are friendly =P
[07:49] <din> dreamer_: sudo passwd root
[07:49] <nfinitep1astik> robotgeek: thanks br0
[07:49] <edilooks> hehe,, i do have =)
[07:49] <anu> can any one help onm copy vcd by ffmpeg
[07:49] <hondje> Just yell some tagalog at him, that'll learn 'em
[07:50] <edilooks> oonga
[07:50] <robotgeek> nfinitep1astik: np
[07:50] <edilooks> hahahaha
[07:50] <pablo928>  thoreauputic: do you ever use GFTP?
[07:50] <nickrud> dreamer_, sudo passwd; enter your user password; then enter the root password you want
[07:50] <hondje> lol
[07:50] <edilooks> bakit alam nyo ba ang tagalog?hahaha
[07:50] <thoreauputic> pablo928: rarely
[07:50] <chesty> 3/leave
[07:50] <hondje> Nope! :D
[07:50] <anu> can any one help onm copy vcd by ffmpeg
[07:50] <edilooks> hahaha i tot so someon ehere knows tagalog =)
[07:50] <herbi> so nobody can help me?
[07:51] <anu> can any one help onm copy vcd by ffmpeg
[07:51] <thoreauputic> pablo928: when I need ftp I usually use lftp or nautilus (for lazy moments)
[07:51] <edilooks> Hope Ubuntu will have a Tagalog support language =)
[07:51] <herbi> or should i just keep repeating the question until i get kicked? :(
[07:51] <anu> herbi: whats prob
[07:51] <pablo928>  thoreauputic: have you ever had problems uploading .jpg files using GFTP?
[07:51] <hondje> herbi: I dunno, does modprobe fix it?
[07:51] <thoreauputic> pablo928: no
[07:51] <nickrud> herbi, every 5-10 minutes is not excessive :)
[07:51] <herbi> hondje, yes, ive managed to get him to modprobe the network card module and get back on the net
[07:51] <herbi> but id rather fix the actual problem
[07:52] <hondje> yeah, just making sure it's like, not the module or something
[07:52] <anu> herbii had jonied just know can u explan what is ur problem
[07:52] <dabaRCo> herbi: you see...you need to give information about your issue, for us to help you.
[07:52] <herbi> anu, a friend did an apt-get upgrade, and now soundcard/network card wont autodetect/load on bootup
[07:52] <hondje> thanks! :D
[07:52] <dreamer_> ty, gonna try that..brb
[07:52] <dabaRCo> we need to know about what his ifconfig looks like, and, sound card model, chipset, and such.
[07:53] <herbi> uh why?
[07:53] <herbi> ive already mentioned it isnt the modules that dont work
[07:53] <herbi> its the module loading subsystem
[07:53] <herbi> hotplug possibly?
[07:53] <thoreauputic> hondje: I'll send the bill tomorrow ;-)
[07:53] <hondje> hotplugage
[07:53] <pablo928>  thoreauputic: my problem is that when I upload the .jpg gftp sends a Site cmd. chmod 700 which seems to change permissions for the file which when I try to view it wit http gives me an error message "permission denied"
[07:53] <dabaRCo> herbi: ok, I could be off on it too...
[07:53] <herbi> dbus? whatever handles module loading
[07:54] <hondje> does ifup eth0 modprobe the module on its own?
[07:54] <herbi> hondje, ifconfig eth0 up doesnt
[07:54] <edilooks> http://www.miniclip.com/tabletennis.htm <== Can someone fix this plug-in? =(
[07:54] <anu> herbi : try Applications >> system tools >> ubuntu device databse
[07:54] <thoreauputic> pablo928: you can usually change permissions on most ftp sites ( in gftp or using another program)
[07:54] <herbi> which im assuming is equivalent to ifup eth0
[07:54] <edilooks> http://www.miniclip.com/tabletennis.htm <== Can someone fix this plug-in and play? Help =(
[07:54] <hondje> I bet it is
[07:55] <hondje> I like how nickrud thinks....actually relevant
[07:55] <darknature> Anyone know how to install Icon's on Gnome?
[07:55] <nickrud> hondje, now, how do I take that :P
[07:55] <herbi> yeah i thought of modules too
[07:55] <hondje> darknature: drag them to the theme thing?
[07:55] <thoreauputic> pablo928: right click menu I think in gftp (haven't used it for a while)
[07:55] <Madpilot> edilooks: Shockwave for Linux doesn't exist. Blame Macromedia for that...
[07:55] <herbi> but id rather not have to walk him through fixing it again when he adds new hardware to the puter
[07:55] <pablo928>  thoreauputic: I'm using external servers (Yahoo) and don't have that much control
[07:55] <hondje> nickrud: as a good thing I'd imagine
[07:55] <anu> can any one help onm copy vcd by ffmpeg
[07:56] <darknature> the desktop theme ?
[07:56] <dabaRCo> Ice9: I will let you know if I find something out about setting up ezipupdate with a router.
[07:56] <edilooks> i see. so u mean friend that its too impossible to play this? are there any alternative?
[07:56] <thoreauputic> pablo928: does the same thing happen if you use a commandline ftp client? (like lftp or just ftp)
[07:57] <anu> darknature : goto system>>prefrence>> theme >> install theme
[07:57] <anu> darknature : to select icon use edit option of it
[07:57] <thoreauputic> pablo928: "put foo.jpg "  - then see if the perms change (if so it's a server issues I guess)
[07:57] <edilooks> i see. so u mean friend that its too impossible to play this? are there any alternative? i mean the shockwave player =(
[07:57] <Vaske_Car> dabaRCo: are you from old Yugoslavia?
[07:57] <anu> darknature : it work for desktop window border and icons
[07:58] <dabaRCo> ya, born in BG, then lived in ZG,
[07:58] <pablo928>  thoreauputic: still haven't figured out the command line ftp clients
[07:58] <herbi> anu, he says it has frozen
[07:58] <nickrud> herbi, if putting the modules in /etc/modules works, and without the modules there, it does not, I'd suggest filing a bug against hotplug
[07:58] <darknature> ok how do i install icons that i downloaded?
[07:58] <Madpilot> edilooks: no Shockwave for Linux - Flash, yes, but no Shockwave at all. Complain to Macromedia...
[07:58] <darknature> blah nvm
[07:58] <Vaske_Car> vidi se
[07:58] <Vaske_Car> :)
[07:58] <vladuz976_> what terminals do you use?
[07:58] <darknature> forget what i asked i just noticed :P
[07:59] <edilooks> I see =( damn...macromedia should make one for this so tht many can enjoy and praise their products
[07:59] <Selekta> ehehehe suckers...
[07:59] <thoreauputic> pablo928: it isn't hard: e.g lftp ftp.blah.com , login user , password , cd public_html , put myfile.jpg
[07:59] <edilooks> salekta, how?
[07:59] <darknature> ok i thought icon files were suppose to be in .svg
[07:59] <Madpilot> Selekta: ???
[07:59] <Selekta> winxp :(
[07:59] <darknature> why is it saying file format invalid
[07:59] <edilooks> waaaaaaaaaa
[07:59] <Madpilot> Selekta: that doesn't count!
[07:59] <edilooks> hahahaha i tot its Ubuntu
[07:59] <edilooks> hhahahaha
[07:59] <mustafu> I hope it's oneday more automated, as is in a "Complain about lack of Shockwave for Linux" link :P
[07:59] <YuWei> have any body compile the madwifi on their box? when i do 'sudo make', it gave me something like "Warning: could not find /usr/local/src/madwifi/ath_hal/.hal.o.cmd for /usr/local/src/madwifi/ath_hal/hal.o". anyone can help?
[07:59] <edilooks> selekta used win xp to play not ubuntu hahahaha
[08:00] <edilooks> amaw ka selekta hahahaha
[08:00] <pablo928>  thoreauputic: i'll give it a try
[08:00] <anu> herbi : last try is get ur sources.list updated as per userguide of ubuntu at http://ubuntuguide.org/ nd then do sudo apt-get update
[08:01] <herbi> how would that fix the module problem?
[08:01] <nickrud> !ubuntuguide
[08:01] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[08:01] <anu> herbi : then sudo apt-get upgrage
[08:01] <dabaRCo> edilooks: yes, it does not seem to work in ubuntu.
[08:01] <nickrud> :)
[08:01] <dabaRCo> Vaske_Car: how can you see?
[08:01] <herbi> anu, thats what got him into this mess in the first place.
[08:01] <darknature> does ubuntu take .svg files for icons?
[08:01] <edilooks> boycott macromedia in its shockwave thingy! hehe, joke =(
[08:01] <Madpilot> mustafu: go track down a complaint URL at Macromedia, and add it to the Ubuntu wiki's Flash entry!
[08:01] <herbi> emptied his sources.list, ran apt-setup, and apt-get upgrade
[08:01] <hondje> there's a decent reason there's no linux shockwave player
[08:02] <anu> herbi : u better start reinstall    ur os to save time n thoughts.
[08:02] <herbi> LOL
[08:02] <herbi> pathetic
[08:02] <nickrud> herbi, a good sources.list is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:02] <darknature> blah it won't let me drag this file into the icon installtion window
[08:02] <shadeofgrey> hey listen...  the info on ubuntuguide.org is dated, but its incredibly thorough...  it blows the pathetic ubuntu wiki out of the water
[08:03] <nickrud> shadeofgrey, except, unless you can read between the lines, you will be f**d
[08:03] <anu> herbi u dont have to empty the source list just get it updated list form userguide of ubuntu
[08:03] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey: so add information - *current* information - to the wiki. That's why it's a wiki...
[08:03] <hondje> darknature: is it a single icon or is it a tarball with icons?
[08:03] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: unfortunately it is sometimes wrong though
[08:04] <darknature> well the tarball file only has one icon file its a .svg
[08:04] <shadeofgrey> okay guyts...  any suggestions for fowenloading a program capable of creating custom colorschemes?  Theres a program called colorschemer for windows -- how involved  would getting that app to run using wine be?
[08:04] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey: http://www.colorschemer.com/online.html
[08:04] <slipstream3d> hello
[08:05] <darknature> is it the wrong format?
[08:05] <edilooks> does anyone here have played yahoo chess in ubuntu? cos the java thingy is not installed. how to install on ein order to play? please help friends =)
[08:05] <Tidus> thoreauputic: here's the error i'm getting with the nx client itself.
[08:05] <Madpilot> !tell edilooks about java
[08:05] <Tidus> tidus@Macalania:~/Desktop/NX/bin$ ./nxclient
[08:05] <Tidus> ./nxclient: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:05] <nickrud> !java
[08:05] <ubotu> [java]  to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:05] <hondje> darknature: just put the icon in /usr/share/icons or something like that, and pick it manually
[08:05] <slipstream3d> anyone around that can help a linux noob get his new copy of the x86-64 Ubuntu 5.10 to boot?
[08:06] <edilooks> honestly, im vevery very beginner in ubnuntu and so as the linux thingy, can someone teach me how to install? whats the command?
[08:06] <edilooks> please =(
[08:06] <darknature> k
[08:06] <Prowl3r> Is their anyway I can restart the sound driver say in console?
[08:06] <Madpilot> edilooks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java for java info
[08:06] <edilooks> oh
[08:06] <edilooks> ok ok il try
[08:06] <hondje> restart the sound driver?
[08:07] <nickrud> edilooks, you want to look at, from the top menu, System-Admin-Synaptic
[08:07] <Madpilot> edilooks: didn't you get the msg that ubotu sent you
[08:07] <thoreauputic> Tidus: I can't really help, sorry - I don't know enough about it. If youcame back later possibly Seves could help you
[08:07] <hondje> you could use modprobe to unload and reload it, I guess
[08:07] <lord_nikon> u guess
[08:07] <thoreauputic> Tidus: sorry I mean Seveas
[08:07] <Prowl3r> hondje sounds good, looks like it crashed
[08:07] <Tidus> thoreauputic: that's ok.  my NX server's not up right now anyway.  it's undergoing its system install
[08:07] <shadeofgrey> i concur that the data is sometimes wrong with ubuntu guide, but for a totally green newbie, its an excellent starting point.  i got my first ubuntu installation running like a charm in 2 hours thanks to that guide...  i even had DVD playback going and stuff
[08:07] <thoreauputic> Tidus: he built the stuff on the wiki page Ipointed you to
[08:07] <slipstream3d> more specifically, the problem is with the liveCD. it runs me through all the startup options, it detects hardware and asks me the resolutions x should use, brown screen with cursor comes up... and nothing happens.
[08:07] <Tidus> thoreauputic: all that's there is the freenx server, but not the client itself.
[08:08] <shadeofgrey> anyway...  anybody know of a color scheming utility for ubuntu?
[08:08] <darknature> blah i don't have permission to write to this folder
[08:08] <darknature> ahh darn it
[08:08] <edilooks> friends, on the site tht u gave me, i dont understand what it is said there =(
[08:08] <nickrud> darknature, which folder?
[08:08] <hondje> Tidus: was that an ubuntu .deb you installed? If not, you might have to make a symlink to fake it
[08:08] <thoreauputic> Tidus: I'm aware of that: I was suggesting you consult Seveas because he is often here and knows about freenx
[08:08] <Tidus> hondje: the funny thing is, the binary i'm trying to run is a statically compiled copy of the client
[08:08] <edilooks> or what to do...i dont really understand =(
[08:09] <lord_nikon> right
[08:09] <hondje> Tidus: that is odd
[08:09] <Tidus> hondje: that's why it's on my desktop instead of in /usr/NX/bin
[08:09] <darknature> i put it in the /user/share/icons
[08:10] <darknature> well i tried
[08:10] <hondje> if it's statically compiled, then I have NO clue why you get that
[08:10] <hondje> So like, we're on the same page man
[08:10] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: the wiki is a work in progress by definition - it will improve as people contribute to it
[08:10] <Tidus> tidus@Macalania:~/Desktop/NX/bin$ ./nxclient
[08:10] <Tidus> oops.
[08:10] <Tidus> stupid thumb
[08:10] <HappyFool> darknature: you need to use sudo to write to that directory
[08:10] <Tidus> hondje: tidus@Macalania:~/Desktop/NX/bin$ ./nxclient
[08:11] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: also the new FAQ for breezy is somewhat based on ubuntuguide I believe
[08:11] <Tidus> nevermind.
[08:11] <Tidus> i give up on trying to copy/paste.
[08:11] <hondje> lol
[08:11] <i-rACEr_> hello. what imap daemon is ubuntu using?
[08:11] <darknature> thanks happyfool ill see about that
[08:11] <nickrud> i-rACEr_, dovecot
[08:12] <johndarkhorse> thoreauputic: one would think any FAQ on ubuntu would be similar in substance
[08:12] <i-rACEr_> and for sending email, sendmail?
[08:12] <rob^> johndarkhorse, yes
[08:12] <Tidus> hondje: let's just say that i downloaded the statically compiled .tar.gz from their download site and it's still not working
[08:12] <rob^> johndarkhorse, same target audience
[08:12] <nickrud> locally, postfix; to your smarthost, your mail client
[08:12] <hondje> Tidus: maybe rebuild it yourself?
[08:12] <Tidus> hondje: i tried that.
[08:12] <Tidus> i found a source .deb and it still gives me that
[08:13] <i-rACEr_> nickrud, thank you
[08:13] <hondje> hrm
[08:13] <hondje> symlink is all I can think of, and that sounds like it'd be pointless
[08:13] <nickrud> i-rACEr_, np
[08:14] <Tidus> hondje: i tried the symlink, and it got rid of the missing file error, but then it found a wrong relocation or something and still refused to run
[08:14] <hondje> then I can't be of service tonight I'm afraid :) I am but an egg
[08:15] <slipstream3d> Can anyone think of a reason why an x86-64 copy of Mandrake, Fedora, Debian, and Ubuntu all would fail at various stages before getting the desktop environment to load (all on the same system that runs 32 bit windows xp perfectly)?
[08:15] <rob^> slipstream3d, 1st question, is the pc 64bit?
[08:15] <hondje> lol, that's a good question :D
[08:15] <slipstream3d> Yes :D... it's an Athlon 64 3000+, Winchester core
[08:16] <rob^> what stage is ubuntu failing?
[08:16] <slipstream3d> MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum (nForce 3) mainboard...
[08:16] <slipstream3d> I am using the 5.10 LiveCD, and it loads everything in the "ugly" stage, gets to the pretty brown background with a cursor, and then freezes
[08:16] <ForgottenSin> Phwoar!
[08:16] <ForgottenSin> I'm back
[08:16] <slipstream3d> Once I saw the login screen, another time I did not
[08:17] <shadeofgrey> okay guys...  i also need to know this -- how do i get the nautilus file browser to show the contents of EVERYTHING as a list -- which shows the file type, size, and date modified etc etc...  at the moment its default is to show everything as icons with no useful info whatsoever
[08:17] <rob^> slipstream3d, have you tried installing it?
[08:17] <rob^> slipstream3d, have you tried the breezy preview also?
[08:17] <bunnyboy> I am using hoary..xmms often pauses for no reason while playing, esp. whn I open other programs...does anyone know why?
[08:17] <slipstream3d> I tried installing a version of Debian a month or so ago to exactly the same effect
[08:17] <edilooks> doesn't work
[08:17] <slipstream3d> so I don't think it's specific to Ubuntu.
[08:17] <edilooks> cant install the java plugin
[08:17] <ForgottenSin> Ok, so I start up AmaroK and it gives me this error that sound is already in use or something, I can't get it to show again. But For some reason neither it or XMMS will output sound. Gaim and other programs are, and the music in the players in progressing, but no sound. Any help?
[08:18] <nickrud> shadeofgrey, system (top menu bar)-pref-file-management-view tab-view folders using
[08:18] <edilooks> there's no package for sun-j2re1.5
[08:18] <slipstream3d> I'm using the LiveCD now because I don't have a spare HD to mess around with...
[08:18] <shadeofgrey> bunnyboy:  for the love of God...  friends dont let friends use xmms -- they encourage everyone to use beep media player instead
[08:18] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: View - View as list  ?
[08:18] <edilooks> i cant see any package available
[08:18] <bunnyboy> shadeofgrey, explain
[08:18] <rob^> slipstream3d, sound like someting dodgy is going on with your hardware, or it just isn't supported
[08:18] <HappyFool> does 32-bit ubuntu run ok?
[08:18] <slipstream3d> Any place where I can look up a compatibility list?
[08:19] <slipstream3d> I haven't had the chance to try a 32 bit distro (i'm a bit tight on bandwidth...)
[08:19] <shadeofgrey> bunnyboy:  xmms is visually horrible, and has more bugs in it than the newest version of windows...
[08:19] <rob^> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupport
[08:19] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: a bit of an exaggeration :)
[08:19] <newubuntuuser> Hi everyone!
[08:20] <slipstream3d> I don't ahve anything *that* oddball... nforce 3 mainboard, nvidia 6800 (agp) graphics card, PCI sb audigy, sata main hard disk and IDE secondary.
[08:20] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: you know about skins for xmms , right?
[08:20] <nickrud> slipstream3d, you would probably be better off with a 32 bit version; a lot of the good stuff (flash, movies, etc) won't work in 64 bit without a lot of extra work
[08:20] <HappyFool> ForgottenSin: have you set the 'output plugin' of xmms to eSound ?
[08:20] <newubuntuuser> Now that I have Ubuntu insatlled, I am in need of Java... It won't let me install it.
[08:20] <newubuntuuser> !Java
[08:20] <ubotu> java is, like, totally, to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:20] <edilooks> yes the java
[08:20] <edilooks> i tried the wike site
[08:20] <johndarkhorse> slipstream3d: and even then, some stuff doesnt work at all
[08:20] <shadeofgrey> bunnyboy:  its theme engine is deplorably ugly, it barfs when fed any playlist file created by windows.... need i continue?
[08:20] <ForgottenSin> HappyFool,
[08:20] <edilooks> it doesnt work
[08:21] <Tidus> ACK!
[08:21] <slipstream3d> Well, the main reason I want some sort of 64 bit linux is because I wish to be able to run MATLAB-64
[08:21] <ForgottenSin> I don't really wanna use XMMS
[08:21] <Tidus> i forgot that there is a kde client called KNX
[08:21] <ForgottenSin> I'd prefer AmaroK
[08:21] <shadeofgrey> whats amarok?
[08:21] <ForgottenSin> A media player
[08:21] <edilooks> please help me solve this missing java plugin.
[08:21] <ForgottenSin> It's better than XMMS
[08:21] <HappyFool> ForgottenSin: well, this will at least let you start to find out what's wrong. perhaps there's a similar 'output sink' or 'output plugin' setting in amarok, but i have not used it
[08:21] <Tidus> shadeofgrey: http://amarok.kde.org
[08:21] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: a KDE music player a-la-itunes
[08:22] <rob^> rhythmbox is installed as the default music player in ubuntu, have you tried that?
[08:22] <bunnyboy> shadeofgrey, oooh..i've been using xmms for about 6 years..it looks shit, but plays music great...
[08:22] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: rather good really
[08:22] <i-rACEr_> anyone uses quanta on ubuntu, can i install it in gnome?
[08:22] <HappyFool> ForgottenSin: however, i believe that if the xmms output setting is wrong, it just crashes
[08:22] <ForgottenSin> In AmaroK
[08:22] <ForgottenSin> It has engine settings
[08:22] <shadeofgrey> EEW!  ...kde...
[08:22] <ForgottenSin> And it's currently set to aRTSengine
[08:22] <rob^> i-rACEr_, sudo apt-get install quanta
[08:23] <HappyFool> ForgottenSin: you're running ubuntu or kubuntu ?
[08:23] <rob^> ForgottenSin, bmp does too, as does xmms
[08:23] <slipstream3d> Ah well, I guess I'll just wait for a 64-bit Windows binary for MATLAB ;)
[08:23] <shadeofgrey> im....  allergic.... to...kde
[08:23] <nickrud> shadeofgrey, you discovered qt :)
[08:23] <ForgottenSin> ubuntu
[08:23] <ForgottenSin> Hoary
[08:23] <ForgottenSin> Ok
[08:23] <ForgottenSin> XMMS is refusing to boot now
[08:23] <ForgottenSin> D=
[08:23] <hondje> slipstream3d: matlab has a 64 bit version for linux?
[08:23] <HappyFool> ForgottenSin: afaik in ubuntu (=gnome), esd is running, not artsd
[08:24] <nickrud> muine is nice, if you don't like rhythmbox
[08:24] <HappyFool> ForgottenSin: can you change that setting to esd?
[08:24] <slipstream3d> Yes, hondje, it's on one of the CDs of the new-ish release i have
[08:24] <ForgottenSin> I'll try
[08:24] <slipstream3d> 7.0.something
[08:24] <hondje> R14?
[08:24] <slipstream3d> Yeah, probably
[08:24] <hondje> Now I have no excuse not to upgrade
[08:24] <hondje> buy a 64 bit something or other and matlab...and take out a second mortgage :(
[08:24] <ForgottenSin> amarok
[08:24] <HappyFool> hondje: yes you do. all your simulink models will break ;)
[08:24] <ForgottenSin> For engine
[08:24] <ForgottenSin> Only has a choice of aRts
[08:24] <ForgottenSin> xine
[08:25] <ForgottenSin> or Gstreamer
[08:25] <mojo> does any1 know the reason y the 'fglrx' make my color so light? and how to low down the color gamma?
[08:25] <NiLz> hm, can't upgrade firefox with apt
[08:25] <HappyFool> ForgottenSin: try gstreamer?
[08:25] <hondje> HappyFool: d'oh
[08:25] <hondje> mathworks are incompetant....
[08:25] <ForgottenSin> ok
[08:25] <HappyFool> hondje: i'm (sort of) kidding; we often have compatibility problems when we upgrade
[08:25] <ForgottenSin> Now it wants an output plugin
[08:25] <ForgottenSin> esdsink?
[08:25] <HappyFool> ForgottenSin: what are the other options?
[08:26] <nickrud> ForgottenSin, if your main desktop is gnome, yes
[08:26] <Tidus> i give up on NX for now.  it's doing nothing but making my head hurt
[08:26] <ForgottenSin> It works
[08:26] <ForgottenSin> =DDDDDDD
[08:26] <HappyFool> *yay*
[08:26] <ForgottenSin> Thanks heaps
[08:26] <ForgottenSin> =D
[08:26] <NiLz> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2072
[08:27] <rob^> NiLz, disable the unofficial backports
[08:27] <HappyFool> NiLz: maybe use the hoary-backports served from archive.ubuntu.com instead? or don't use hoary-backports at all ?
[08:28] <slipstream3d> Perhaps I shall use my laptop as my linux lab rat instead... how is power managment support under Ubuntu? (i.e. will I be able to get the same 4.5+ hour battery life?)
[08:28] <nickrud> slipstream3d, as a not portable user, I can testify that nearly everyone complains about not getting expected battery life.
[08:29] <Tidus> my old laptop gets just the same under either win or nix
[08:29] <bunnyboy> slipstream3d, you probably will...but ensure that acpi recognises your fan properly
[08:29] <Tidus> about 2 hours, then death.
[08:29] <NiLz> HappyFool: could you give me the requirede lines for sources.list please?
[08:29] <bunnyboy> slipstream3d, on my machine, it "forgot" to turn on the fan..
[08:29] <bunnyboy> :)
[08:29] <slipstream3d> lol. yikes.
[08:29] <NiLz> so I shouldn't use unofficial backports at all?
[08:30] <HappyFool> NiLz: look here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:30] <newubuntuuser> looks like java is actually covered under the ubotu -bot  :-)  Have a good one and good luck!
[08:30] <HappyFool> NiLz: line 26
[08:31] <NiLz> HappyFool: yep, thanks
[08:31] <slipstream3d> Well, it sounds to me like Linux and me are a project waiting for next summer vacation, not during school. haha. thanks for the info anyway, everyone
[08:31] <NiLz> HappyFool: what about hoary-extras?
[08:32] <NiLz> should I use it?
[08:32] <firebird619> What repository do I have to have installed to get nvu via apt-get? I have added all of the repositories listed on www.ubuntuguide.org except for the backports. Is there any other repositories I should have?
[08:32] <HappyFool> NiLz: i don't; you could temporarily enable it if you need something specific, and then disable it again afterwrds
[08:32] <HappyFool> !tell firebird619 about repos
[08:32] <Madpilot> firebird619: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu
[08:32] <hondje> firebird619: hoary-extras I think?
[08:33] <thoreauputic> !nvu
[08:33] <ubotu> well, nvu is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.
[08:33] <firebird619> HappyFool, MadPilot, and hondje, Thanks
[08:33] <Madpilot> Nvu isn't in repos anywhere for Hoary
[08:33] <NiLz> HappyFool: ok, these links you gave me do not work :(
[08:34] <ubuntuCryptid> Hey some 1 please help setup a duel boot Between WinXP and Ubuntu i have WinXP installed on C drive how do i install Ubuntu on D drive
[08:34] <Madpilot> !tell ubuntuCryptid about dualboot
[08:34] <HappyFool> NiLz: you need to 'uncomment' the lines (remove the # at the beginning)
[08:34] <NiLz> HappyFool: of course
[08:34] <NiLz> HappyFool: did that
[08:34] <NiLz> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2074
[08:34] <bunnyboy> has anyone seen situations where xmms spots playing spontaneously?
[08:35] <firebird619> Madpilot: When I go to ubuntuguide.org and look at how to get Nvu it says to type apt-get install nvu. Apt-get uses repos to get the files doesn't it?
[08:35] <HappyFool> NiLz: also, i don't know if hoary-backports is up-to-date or not; perhaps it's gotten out of sync
[08:35] <HappyFool> NiLz: in which case the easiest option is to disable hoary-backports
[08:35] <johndarkhorse> firebird619: ubuntuguide will get you into trouble
[08:35] <NiLz> HappyFool: ok
[08:35] <vladuz976_> how do you remove *.deb files?
[08:35] <NiLz> HappyFool: but I can't upgrade my firefox :(
[08:35] <Madpilot> firebird619: first, don't use the ubuntuguide, its got lots of bad info like that... the wiki page for Nvu does work, I think
[08:35] <vern401> I run ubunto on the slave drive and xp home on the master drive
[08:35] <HappyFool> NiLz: i'm running version 1.0.6 from standard hoary repositories
[08:35] <firebird619> Madpilot: Ok, thanks
[08:36] <winner> anyone know what i'd need to watch divx/xvid files?
[08:36] <vern401> what do I need to install to play DVD's
[08:36] <HappyFool> NiLz: sorry, i must be off now; i hope someone else can help you.
[08:37] <NiLz> ok :)
[08:37] <nickrud> vladuz976_, dpkg --remove <package> is basic; using synapic is preferred
[08:37] <NiLz> How come I get this when trying to upgrade my firefox?
[08:37] <shadeofgrey> whats the most robust equivelant to dreamweaver on linux?
[08:37] <NiLz> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2075
[08:37] <thoreauputic> !dvd
[08:37] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[08:37] <vladuz976_> nickrud, yeah will synaptic find stuff that wasn't isntalled with apt?
[08:37] <shadeofgrey> ...and is it really true that i can run dreamweaver using wine?
[08:37] <NiLz> should I remove firefox first and install again?
[08:37] <Madpilot> shadeofgrey: Nvu
[08:37] <delltony> anyone here use qemu?
[08:37] <nickrud> vladuz976_, it should be under Local or Obsolete Packages
[08:38] <thoreauputic> !qemu
[08:38] <ubotu> methinks qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[08:38] <vladuz976_> nickrud, how do you search those obsolete in synaptic?
[08:40] <ubuntuCryptid> Madpilot the dual boot link u gave me is for NTFS drives but my drives are FAT32 what do i do now
[08:40] <nickrud> vladuz976_, select the tab status, and it's actually Installed (local or obsolete)
[08:41] <meko_> where can i get a good shell scripting tutorial ?
[08:41] <highvoltage> meko_: http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za
[08:42] <vladuz976_> nickrud, i don't understand, what tab status? i don't see that
[08:42] <meko_> tnx man
[08:42] <nickrud> vladuz976_, on the lower left corner of synaptic, there are four buttons (smile) select status
[08:43] <vladuz976_> nickrud, i found it but i can't find the package i installed
[08:43] <Vaske_Car> meko_: http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[08:43] <Madpilot> !tell meko_ about cli
[08:44] <nickrud> vladuz976_, now, select the Installed (local or obsolete) in the left pane (it mentions all, Installed, etc.) that's where I find my local packages
[08:45] <nickrud> vladuz976_, for example, the java package I used dpkg -i on
[08:47] <vladuz976_> nickrud, i used that for installing evidence
[08:47] <NiLz> does any1 know what package should I install to get font "Fixed"?
[08:47] <vladuz976_> nickrud, but now i can't find it
[08:47] <nickrud> vladuz976_, try dpkg -l evidence ; if it's installed you should get some feedback
[08:48] <odat> anyone know and good gui hardware/system info apps?
[08:48] <vladuz976_> nickrud, didn't get anything
[08:48] <nickrud> NiLz, are you trying to run an old breezy by any chance :)
[08:49] <nickrud> vladuz976_, then, you either have the package name wrong, or it's not installed
[08:49] <NiLz> nickrud: ?
[08:51] <nickrud> NiLz, I think it's xfonts-base
[08:51] <tga> odat, System -> Administration -> Device Manager
[08:51] <tuppa> is scim not working well with oo.o on amd64, or is it just me?
[08:51] <tuppa> on breezy even, with oo.o2
[08:52] <vladuz976_> nickrud, i got it from here http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/evidence/evidence_0.9.8-20050305-hoaryGMW_i386.deb
[08:53] <odat> tga:  k that thing doesn't seem to know very much about my system  doesn't even recognize the processor
[08:53] <nickrud> vladuz976_, then try dpkg -l evi*
[08:53] <nickrud> if evidence is installed that will find it
[08:53] <herbi> is transcode available in hoary?
[08:54] <tga> what's next after Breezy?
[08:54] <bur[n] er> grumpy
[08:54] <SuperQ> heh
[08:54] <Madpilot> !info transcode
[08:54] <bur[n] er> grumpy groundhog rather
[08:54] <Selekta> i think next one should be Selektaery Seal
[08:54] <tga> odat, look in BIOS -> Processor.. it works for me
[08:55] <odat> is there a default way to take a screen shot?
[08:55] <bur[n] er> default?
[08:55] <Madpilot> odat: push the Print Screen button on your keyboard
[08:55] <bur[n] er> odat: you can do it from the menu in gnome
[08:55] <bur[n] er> Madpilot: nope
[08:55] <herbi> !info transcode
[08:55] <bur[n] er> that's cause it doesn't
[08:55] <Madpilot> odat & bur[n] er: tht works here, honest
[08:56] <vern401> it does for me
[08:56] <nickrud> always had to remap to another key
[08:56] <bur[n] er> and then you paste or something?
[08:56] <tga> meh, Grumpy will never be released
[08:56] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: no, and then the screenshot util pops up
[08:56] <odat> madpilot: cool
[08:56] <bur[n] er> never?
[08:56] <tga> it's like sid
[08:56] <tga> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrumpyGroundhog
[08:56] <bur[n] er> oh... that's right ;)
[08:56] <bur[n] er> i'm not sure what's after breezy then ;)
[08:56] <thoreauputic> bur[n] er: actually grumpy (when and if it happens) will be the bleeding edge always broken branch - I heard sabdfl mention "Dapper" so maybe that's Breezy +1
[08:56] <Madpilot> odat & bur[n] er: also, system menu -> Print Screen
[08:57] <tga>  "Breezy+1" (6.04; No name yet; Planned for April 2006)
[08:57] <thoreauputic> tga: right, you didn't hear me mention Dapper, OK ;)
[08:57] <benplaut> tga: there's a name already
[08:58] <nickrud> love irc logs :)
[08:58] <benplaut> i found a page in the wiki on it, just a sec
[08:58] <tear> any good .rar package manager precompiled in ubuntu?
[08:58] <tga> what's a dapper?
[08:58] <benplaut> archive-manager?
[08:58] <Madpilot> Dapper Dinosaur, mascot to be a purple furry dino! ;)
[08:58] <nickrud> a dapper is a dandy?
[08:58] <thoreauputic> tga: I assume it would "Dapper <insert animal>"
[08:58] <tear> yea
[08:59] <tear> the "unrar" can't work with newr rar versions
[08:59] <deFrysk> tear, unrar-nonfree
[08:59] <ShortDogg> hey guys i installed ubuntu, and when it asked to type a password, i didn't eneter anything in it, and it told me i had to, so i started typing but no asterisc thingies were showing up, it was as if nohing was being typed, i pressed enter and the installation continued, now when i load it up and it asks me to type in my username and pass, it says invalid password, is there anything i can do?
[08:59] <Madpilot> dapper: "marked by smartness in dress and manners" - thank you Google...
[09:00] <tear> any graphical?
[09:00] <tga> lol ShortDogg, just pushing random keys will get you in trouble
[09:00] <ShortDogg> yeah.. :(
[09:00] <deFrysk> tear, file-roller
[09:00] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: erm - you have an unknown password now
[09:00] <ShortDogg> is there any way of reseting the pass?
[09:00] <tear> deFrysk, that can't handle .rar
[09:00] <tga> ShortDogg, you can boot off the livecd, mount your current system, chroot, then use passwd
[09:01] <deFrysk> tear, then I do not know
[09:01] <tga> ShortDogg, or if you really don't know what you're doing just reinstall the thing
[09:01] <tear> OK, thanks anyway
[09:01] <ShortDogg> i'll just reinstall :(
[09:01] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: or easier, boot into recovery mode, and run passwd <youruser>
[09:01] <ShortDogg> oh what?
[09:01] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: you get a root prompt in recovery mode
[09:01] <ShortDogg> so what do i do exactly for that?
[09:02] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: choose that boot option
[09:02] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: when you get a # prompt, type  passwd <yourusername>  and change it
[09:04] <ShortDogg> but to get into any mode it asks for a user and pass before i go in
[09:04] <vern401> boot into recovery mode
[09:04] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: no, recovery mode gives you a root prompt
[09:05] <ShortDogg> but how do i boot into it?
[09:05] <candlelight> hmm.. yesterday I tried, recovery mode ask for passwd
[09:05] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: you might need to hit <esc>
[09:05] <ShortDogg> oh ok
[09:05] <ShortDogg> thanx hold on..
[09:05] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: you should get a grub menu
[09:06] <thoreauputic> candlelight: recovery mode does not ask for a password, it dumps you at a root prompt
[09:06] <johndarkhorse> thoreauputic: did you see oLNaAn?
[09:06] <ShortDogg> ok it's going into recovery now.. so what do i type exactly??? say i wanna change password to "doodoo"
[09:06] <thoreauputic> johndarkhorse: right - I see what you are talking about
[09:06] <candlelight> hmm... maybe I was trying single user mode
[09:07] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg:  passwd <your user name>
[09:07] <ShortDogg> ok and will that ask me to change?
[09:07] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: it will then prompt for a password
[09:08] <ShortDogg> ok cool
[09:08] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: so in my case it would be  passwd peter
[09:08] <thoreauputic> that's what I would need to type
[09:09] <azazel_ubuntu> arggh! anyone know where azureus stores downloads temporarily before moving them to the destination folder?
[09:09] <azazel_ubuntu> i get home, it's downloaded this file, but complained it couldn't write to some directory
[09:09] <LethAL-Rocks> Um... look in it's options
[09:09] <delltony> thoreauputic, i keep getting a op.o error when trying to compile qemu but thanks for that link
[09:09] <azazel_ubuntu> now it's hosed...
[09:09] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: if that succeeds, type reboot and the machine should restart
[09:09] <ShortDogg> ok awesome it's changed the password :D
[09:09] <ShortDogg> thanx heaps for the help
[09:09] <ShortDogg> man it takes ages to boot ubuntu
[09:10] <thoreauputic> delltony: I haven't tried compiling it - I just played with the stock version from apt-get
[09:10] <delltony> yeah but the stock version doesn't have kqemu in it does it?
[09:10] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: just *don't* write it on a sticky note *grin*
[09:10] <ShortDogg> lol ok
[09:11] <thoreauputic> delltony: correct, it is therefore rather slow
[09:11] <delltony> yeah
[09:11] <ShortDogg> is ubuntu usually slow when it boots for most ppl, or is it just coz my comp is crappy?
[09:11] <delltony> thats why i'm wanting to compile it. i had it compiled on hoary but now im running breezy gotta start all over
[09:12] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: it's fairly slow to boot in general, yeah
[09:12] <Madpilot> Mine boots in about the same amount of time as XP used to take - not that that's saying much...
[09:12] <ShortDogg> ok, ah well it's still kiks the crap outa microsoft
[09:12] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: since I haven't rebooted for 80 days I don't notice ;)
[09:12] <vern401> does ubuntu make a log if it has errors found when booting
[09:12] <ShortDogg> lol isn't it bad to leave the comp on that long?
[09:12] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: why?
[09:13] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: some people have uptimes of over a year or more
[09:13] <vern401> because microsofts systems mess up after a while without rebooting it
[09:13] <user1> HELLO
[09:13] <user1> hello
[09:13] <tear> hmm, seems like fileroller normaly should handle .rar files, but  the ones for 64-bit havn't got that support. :/ BAH!
[09:13] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: this isn't windows
[09:14] <johndarkhorse> vern401: there are some linux boxes that run for years w/o a reboot
[09:14] <vern401> I know I was just sayin why people think that way
[09:14] <tear> if you don't use it as a workstation you can have a linux station running for years
[09:15] <tear> my co workers server has like 1y2m uptime or so
[09:15] <AzMoo> Anybody know of an OS X style dock?
[09:15] <darkheart> AzMoo Yes, there is a gdesklet or something that behaves that way...I fail to remember it's name though.
[09:16] <AzMoo> darklet, well, at least I know it exists, thanks :)
[09:16] <thoreauputic> AzMoo: also superkaramba for KDE I think
[09:16] <darkheart> AzMoo Np =)
[09:16] <vern401> my laptop looses sound when i have a wireless card running
[09:17] <johndarkhorse> AzMoo: gdesklet, superkaramba or adesklets should have something between them for you
[09:18] <ShortDogg> man is way slower than what it was like when i had windows on :(
[09:19] <vbgunz> how do you log in with your name?
[09:20] <vbgunz> suppose to be /msg or /nick or something... not sure
[09:20] <Wilf> vbgunz, /msg nickserv identify <password>
[09:20] <Madpilot> vbgunz: /msg nickserv help
[09:20] <thoreauputic> vbgunz:  try /msg nickserv help
[09:21] <yahalom> any known issues with breezy and ati? if i install it the way i did on hoary it crashes my X and i need to reconfigure x. any ideas?
[09:21] <vbgunz> thank you! I tried /help nick and /help msg but to no avail!
[09:21] <vbgunz> thanks fellas!
[09:21] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: :)
[09:21] <Wilf> :x
[09:21] <Coag> umm
[09:21] <Coag> im playing mp3's through amarok
[09:21] <thoreauputic> :)
[09:21] <Coag> but imnot hearing any sound
[09:21] <vbgunz> hey thoreauputic, whats up, I just installed and updated Breezy on a new system...
[09:22] <Coag> and the volume is up and stuff
[09:22] <vbgunz> just thought I give it a try and see whats up
[09:22] <Wilf> ewww, ginger
[09:22] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: ah, hope it works well for you
[09:22] <Myrtti> gnau... *yawn*
[09:22] <Myrtti> mornin
[09:23] <Myrtti> me me!
[09:23] <hooooory> hey is there a way to make the ubnuntu install download everything off the net rather than off the cd?
[09:23] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: you! you!
[09:23] <Myrtti> o.o
[09:23] <hooooory> like even the kernal?
[09:23] <vbgunz> trying to update an nvidia driver... Am currently asked about "--kernel-source-path" thought I ask in here if someone know about it
[09:23] <Madpilot> Coag: got mp3 codecs added?
[09:23] <Myrtti> me cookie want.
[09:23] <Coag> im sure i do
[09:23] <vbgunz> seems good so far
[09:23] <Coag> because the files are playing
[09:23] <yahalom> hooooory, edt /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the cdrom
[09:23] <Coag> im just not hearing sound
[09:23] <hooooory> apt is soo goood
[09:24] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: happy?
[09:24] <Myrtti> /me gives thoreauputic a kiss on the cheek
[09:24] <vbgunz> jsut my display is at 1024 when I know it can go higher... funny thing about resolution is once you go higher you really can't believe you wasn't higher to begin with...
[09:24] <Myrtti> /me rubs the lipstick of thoreauputics cheek with a flannel hankey
[09:24] <thoreauputic> hahah
[09:24] <Myrtti> off, even
[09:24] <johndarkhorse> hooooory: there is no 'net install' cd, if that's what your'e asking
[09:25] <hooooory> ok
[09:25] <yahalom> nobody here using fglrx with breezy?
[09:25] <hooooory> johndarkhorse: what about brezzy?
[09:25] <Myrtti> but it's not rocket science to use nano or smthn before the cd-install starts to comment the cd out
[09:25] <ShortDogg> why is unbuntu soooo slow on my computer? none of the windows were ever this slow
[09:26] <Wilf> maybe your computer ran out of petrol
[09:26] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: specs of your machine?
[09:26] <yahalom> lol
[09:26] <Coag> damnit this is pissing me right off :(
[09:26] <hooooory> johndarkhorse: how does debians net install cd work?
[09:26] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: how much RAM? What CPU?
[09:26] <hooooory> johndarkhorse: can it install everyyyyything off the net?
[09:26] <vbgunz> can someone help me out please. Currently I am trying to install Nvidia driver 7676 for my 5600 card. I've installed GCC+CC+MAKE but now am being asked for the source of the kernel... It said I can start install with --kernel-source-path but not sure if I already have it or if it is on disc or what... I need a little guidance. Any help is appreciatedZ!
[09:27] <vbgunz> I am using Breezy Badger
[09:27] <thoreauputic> !tell vbgunz about nvidia
[09:27] <ShortDogg> p2 400mhz 128mb of ram
[09:27] <hooooory> johndarkhorse:or does it install the kernal with the basics first and then download packages?
[09:28] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: hmm - that's right on the edge of usability
[09:28] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: extra RAM would help a lot
[09:28] <tear> !chroot
[09:28] <ubotu> hmm... chroot is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[09:28] <vbgunz> I really don't feel my card got picked up by default installation... I am stuck at 1024 when I can go 1280. My refresh rates are off and it is 256MB which can run some pretty descent games but not a single Linux screensaver... whats up with that ;)
[09:28] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: or you can install a lighter desktop - like xfce4
[09:28] <sml>  i have a process 'perl' using about 95% CPU is this the same as yours?
[09:28] <mustafu> I have a P2-400 as well, with 392 RAM though, and it's probably more usable than what you're describing
[09:29] <vbgunz> screensavers are slow... :P
[09:29] <vbgunz> one sec, any help is much appreciated!
[09:29] <ShortDogg> what's xfce4?
[09:30] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: an alternative desktop
[09:30] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: you can see others at http://xwinman.org
[09:30] <ShortDogg> i thought linux was generally supposed to be faster than windows, that kinda why i wanted to install it because of my low resources
[09:30] <thoreauputic> plus window managers
[09:31] <smott> ShortDogg: not really
[09:31] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: it can be - but it depends what you install
[09:31] <ShortDogg> how would this Xfce run on my system do u think?
[09:32] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: faster than gnome
[09:32] <sml> why is 'perl' maxing out my CPU%?
[09:33] <smott> are you people quite sure that xfce is faster than gnome? because i couldn't discern a difference in speed (but gnome is MUCH better feature-wise)
[09:33] <thoreauputic> sml: some perl script maybe - check with ps aux | grep perl
[09:33] <thoreauputic> smott: it's definitely faster/lighter
[09:33] <thoreauputic> smott: I tried it on a p200 mmx and it was usable
[09:33] <ShortDogg> ok cool, do u think it wouldn't be faster than most windows?
[09:33] <thoreauputic> with 64MB ram
[09:34] <winner> ShortDogg: what are your system specs?
[09:34] <ShortDogg> p2 400mhz, 128mb of ram
[09:34] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: for maximum speed you use light apps, and a minimal window manager like blackbox
[09:34] <smott> thoreauputic: hm. i suppose there's not much difference on more high-end computers
[09:35] <thoreauputic> smott: right - the diff isn't as noticeable on my 2Ghz machine with 512MB RAM
[09:36] <ubuntuCryptid> Madpilot the dual boot link u gave me is for NTFS drives but my drives are FAT32 what do i do now
[09:36] <vbgunz> thoreauputic, sorry, thanks for the link, I tried to private message you with thanks but am still new to xchat and IRC in general... Anyhow I didn't pick up on the link quick enough because my first experience with little tabs popping up meant spam... anyhow im on it! Thanks!
[09:36] <thoreauputic> ubuntuCryptid: it really doesn't make that much difference
[09:36] <ubuntuCryptid> k forget that i guess i will install only ubuntu and wash my hands off winows
[09:36] <thoreauputic> vbgunz: you're welcome :)
[09:37] <ubuntuCryptid> Is Wine available for ubuntu
[09:37] <AristoMagnus> sure
[09:37] <ubuntuCryptid> ok does wine run all windows applications
[09:37] <thoreauputic> ubuntuCryptid: dual boot isn't that hard - you just tell the installer to put Ubuntu on you second drive, basically
[09:38] <tga> ubuntuCryptid, no
[09:38] <AristoMagnus> no games
[09:38] <Madpilot> ubuntuCryptid & thoreauputic: the dual boot should work the same over both FAT32 & NTFS, from what I've heard
[09:38] <thoreauputic> ubuntuCryptid: no wine doesn't run all win apps
[09:38] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: right
[09:38] <sml> thoreauputic .. /usr/share/apps/knetworkconf/backends/network-conf --platform debian-3.0 --set
[09:38] <thoreauputic> sml: erm... what's that for?
[09:39] <ubuntuCryptid> thoreauputic well i tried doing that but the partion manager does let me do that it is asking me setup the mount point and i didnt know what to do
[09:39] <sap__> hi, I'm looking for the simplest way of getting xorg built from source. my first step was to apt-get source xserver-xorg but this isn't going smoothly. Does anyone know of an ubuntu guide?
[09:39] <dominican> anybody know of any cbt mirc channels???
[09:39] <sml> thoreauputic .... the perl process comsuming all my CPU i guess?
[09:39] <thoreauputic> sml: ah I see
[09:40] <thoreauputic> sml: well kill it...
[09:40] <sml> thoreauputic ... does it do anything?
[09:40] <thoreauputic> sml: probably yes ;-)
[09:40] <johndarkhorse> sml: that process takes over on my system, also. i have to kill it each time (or let it run its slow slow course)
[09:41] <thoreauputic> sml: something to do with your networking aparently...
[09:41] <johndarkhorse> sml: did you recently use your network configure applet?
[09:41] <sml> johndarkhorse .. yes
[09:41] <sml> i might try and a reboot and see if it is running from start-up
[09:42] <ceviz|laptop> is there a vnc server or configuration which allows you to vnc to the window session currently on that pc?
[09:42] <cdc> hello guys
[09:42] <johndarkhorse> sml: it doesnt. it only comes up when you call the network applet
[09:42] <sml> thanks. will try a restart
[09:42] <sml> back soon
[09:42] <cdc> i just extracted the point2play the question is
[09:42] <cdc> how can i intsall it?
[09:42] <tga> ceviz|laptop, System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[09:43] <thoreauputic> ubuntuCryptid: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/I386
[09:44] <Trackilizer> Hey guys.
[09:44] <Trackilizer> I need you're help.
[09:44] <thoreauputic> !tell ubuntuCryptid about install
[09:44] <Trackilizer> I want to mount my FAT32 partition.
[09:44] <thoreauputic> johndarkhorse: yup
[09:44] <johndarkhorse> !tell Trackilizer about ntfs
[09:46] <setite> hola people
[09:47] <setite> are there any big changes coming in breezy?
[09:47] <ubuntuCryptid> Does Ubuntu come preinstalled with WinE
[09:47] <Trackilizer> johndarkhorse, thanks alot for that.
[09:47] <thoreauputic> ubuntuCryptid: no
[09:47] <setite> ubuntuCryptid no?
[09:47] <setite> ok no without the ?
[09:47] <setite> hehe i didnt think so but wasnt 100%
[09:47] <thoreauputic> !info wine
[09:47] <ubotu> wine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB
[09:47] <Trackilizer> Now i only have to find where it has been mounted.
[09:47] <setite> hey thoreauputic whats teh best 64bit distrro?
[09:47] <thoreauputic> setite: in universe
[09:48] <cdc> where to run the sudo program
[09:48] <thoreauputic> setite: no idea
[09:48] <fivetwentysix> setite: Ubuntu!!! haha
[09:48] <cdc> where to run the sudo program
[09:48] <thoreauputic> cdc: in a terminal , followed by commands
[09:48] <setite> fivetwentysix - they dont port everythign... im wondering if there is a distro that does... i think im giving up my freebsd quest as that was a failed experiment
[09:48] <thoreauputic> !tell cdc about sudo
[09:49] <setite> fivetwentysix - problem with ubuntu64 is that dma broke itself...
[09:49] <fivetwentysix> I'm using 64AMD and using Ubuntu, I'm not having much problems.
[09:49] <setite> but which ubuntu
[09:49] <setite> 64 or 32
[09:49] <fivetwentysix> 64
[09:49] <Badcel> hi, can somebody help me with my tv-card,? (its a hauppauge tv pci fm)
[09:49] <setite> 32 is fine.. great even... but i want 64... and it was proving evil when dma stopped
[09:49] <ubuntuCryptid> How many Windows emulators are there And which is the best Please suggest
[09:50] <setite> ubuntuCryptid 3 main... wine, winex(cedega, and crossover office
[09:50] <fivetwentysix> ubuntuCryptid: Cedega?
[09:50] <setite> all have their purposes
[09:50] <thoreauputic> ubuntuCryptid: if you are stuck on thinking about windows emulation, maybe you aren't quite ready for Linux: better to find linux apps that run natively
[09:51] <setite> crossover office is very rigid in my experience and not much will work that i tried... cedega and wine are nice because most will work if you try hard enough and there are not too many windows dependcencies
[09:51] <setite> thoreauputic - come on a little wine with your dinner doesnt hury
[09:51] <setite> hurt*
[09:51] <Madpilot> ubuntuCryptid: which Windows app are you looking at still having to run under Ubuntu?
[09:52] <fivetwentysix> I want to use Ventrilo :-(.
[09:52] <Angel-SL> *last asking* is it ok to burn CD ISOs to DVD-RW?
[09:52] <setite> ventrilo doenst have alinux client?
[09:52] <thoreauputic> setite: sure, but you weren't here earlier - ubuntuCryptid has been agonising about other stuff ;)
[09:52] <johndarkhorse> Angel-SL: just fine
[09:52] <fivetwentysix> setite: Don't think so, lemme check.
[09:52] <ubuntuCryptid> madpilot i want Visual basic and P2P applications to run like lime wire Soul seek Etc
[09:52] <setite> thoreauputic - yea i was agonizing over in freebsd... but bugger that i want ubuntu back after spending all that tiem in CLI to no avail
[09:52] <Angel-SL> johndarkhorse: are you sure? burning a cd mage to a dvd-rw
[09:52] <Angel-SL> image
[09:53] <fivetwentysix> No, it's still in development, 'as they say'.
[09:53] <johndarkhorse> Angel-SL: it's just a waste of space (which in this case isnt, cuz it's -RW)
[09:53] <ubuntuCryptid> thoreauputic i am sorry if i am irritating U
[09:53] <thoreauputic> ubuntuCryptid: visual basic is purely MS
[09:53] <setite> well from my experience cedega will run it im sure
[09:53] <setite> or wine...
[09:53] <thoreauputic> ubuntuCryptid: no, I didn't mean that :)
[09:53] <setite> dont bother with crossover office... its not free and it almost NEVER works for unsupported apps
[09:54] <thoreauputic> ubuntuCryptid: best to just dive in and learn, though
[09:54] <setite> ive had a great deal of luck with cedega for non-games
[09:54] <ubuntuCryptid> well i found the applications list that wine supports and it supports every thing i need ( i am so happy ) i will install ubuntu Now Bye
[09:54] <setite> wien supports ventrilo?
[09:54] <setite> before you go
[09:54] <setite> remember to check the forums before here
[09:54] <Madpilot> ubuntuCryptid: there are p2p apps for Linux
[09:54] <setite> ubuntuforums.org
[09:55] <thoreauputic> ubuntuCryptid: see you on Ubuntu then :)
[09:55] <setite> limewire has a linux variant
[09:55] <ubuntuCryptid> bye every 1
[09:55] <fivetwentysix> limewire sux
[09:55] <fivetwentysix> :-PPPPPPP
[09:55] <cdc> Couldn't display "/media/cdrom0/install.exe".
[09:55] <cdc> thats the error i receive
[09:55] <ShortDogg> hey guys whats the apt-get command to download xfce???
[09:55] <Myrtti> lol
[09:55] <setite> there are many threads ont eh forum abotu ventrilo
[09:55] <fivetwentysix> apt-get install xfce?
[09:55] <environ> is it possible to let gtk1 apps look like gtk2 apps?
[09:55] <setite> i wonder... is there a kubuntu 64 cd
[09:55] <Myrtti> apt-cache search xfce?
[09:55] <setite> so i can forgo installing gnome
[09:56] <vbgunz> thanks thoreauputic, unfortunately the page didn't help much... It broke my Ctrl+Alt+Backspace... It use to refresh but now it dies and doesn't come back... I have to restart "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" to get it back... And the screensavers are garbage... I know I am not pulling my weight with this card
[09:56] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[09:56] <chavo> environ, only if there's a gtk1 theme that matches your gtk2 theme
[09:56] <ShortDogg> it says package not found
[09:56] <cdc> thoruepatic
[09:56] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: note the "4" - it's important
[09:56] <fivetwentysix> ShortDogg, you update your repositries?
[09:56] <cdc> is your msg to shortdog can be same with mine?
[09:56] <environ> but there aint a programm that "emulates" gtk1 in gtk2 with antialiasing etc.
[09:56] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: you need the universe repo
[09:57] <vbgunz> I did manage on backing up the xorg.conf and manually editing it to get my resolution up and that worked but unfortunately screensavers are lagamegus
[09:57] <thoreauputic> !tell ShortDogg about repos
[09:57] <setite> how stable is breezy
[09:57] <johndarkhorse> setite: not quite 'stable'
[09:57] <thoreauputic> cdc: ?
[09:57] <vbgunz> not sure im on Breezy and it seems good... One thing I noticed is in comparison to Hoary it did pick up my Wireless cards
[09:57] <chavo> setite, it's 59.743727342% stable
[09:58] <setite> chavo - ouch thats not good... ok ill fare with hoary for now
[09:58] <chavo> I'm kidding,
[09:58] <chavo> works good for me
[09:58] <vbgunz> other than that not much difference except in the menus... They seemed to put terminal in Accessories and they seemed to remove Root Terminal I think
[09:58] <chavo> but I'm special
[09:58] <cdc> thoreaeputic i just extracted the point2play.tgz
[09:58] <setite> yay there is a 64bit kubuntu
[09:58] <setite> thats good... im tired of having gnome waste space
[09:58] <Hoxzer> what would be good mp3 player in ubuntu?
[09:59] <thoreauputic> cdc: I know nothing about point2play, sorry
[09:59] <setite> will i still have the dependencies to run gnome apps though?
[09:59] <cdc> now it gave me 3 folders namely usr, etc, opt folders
[09:59] <vbgunz> I hear a lot about amarok
[09:59] <setite> or is there a simple few packages to remedy that?
[09:59] <chavo> cdc, just extract it in /
[09:59] <chavo> as root of course
[09:59] <cdc> decsktop
[09:59] <vbgunz> anyone here successfully exploiting there GeFore 5600 Cards?
[09:59] <cdc> i just extracted it in the desktop
[09:59] <setite> as root?
[09:59] <setite> for p2p?
[09:59] <chavo> tar xzf point2play.tgz -C /
[10:00] <setite> point2play is nice
[10:00] <LethAL-Rocks> ^^
[10:00] <Hoxzer> Can you guys help me to mount fat32 partition as writable for all?
[10:00] <cdc> as a user
[10:00] <setite> i can log onto transgame and paste the tutorial if need be
[10:00] <LethAL-Rocks> Mine doesn't think I have cedega
[10:00] <setite> there is a wiki for it... unofficial though
[10:00] <thoreauputic> !tell Hoxzer about mountwindows
[10:00] <chavo> cdc, sudo tar xzf point2play.tgz -C /
[10:00] <vbgunz> I believe if you wish to mount a partition the unofficial guide tells you several ways on how to do exactly that
[10:00] <cdc> thats it
[10:00] <cdc> ?
[10:01] <setite> cdc
[10:01] <setite> get teh .deb
[10:01] <setite> that will make yoru life easier
[10:01] <chavo> waht could be easier than -> sudo tar xzf point2play.tgz -C /
[10:01] <ShortDogg> hey could having a crap video card affect the slowness?
[10:01] <LethAL-Rocks> Any ideas on why my p2p can't see my Cedega
[10:02] <sobersabre> hi guys... is the ubuntu site based upon plone/zope ?
[10:02] <setite> just dpkg the debs for cedega, point2play, and the two others... mozilla fonts and somethign
[10:02] <vbgunz> Can someone here tell me how to get my kernel sources onto the drive? I am trying to install an Nvidia driver and it is asking for the path/to the kernel sources
[10:02] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: to an extent - but i have a crap vid onboard and it works well enough: more ram is the biggest thing
[10:03] <sobersabre> vbgunz, look the portal on nvidia howto
[10:03] <vbgunz> thanks but I think I was alreay pointed to it... I think it broke my Ctrl+Alt+Backspace plus it no way did anything good for the system... I am still lagging out hardcore on simple screensavers
[10:04] <cdc> chavo command is wrong i think
[10:04] <setite> if you dont get a reload on ctrrl+alt+bksp its because you may have messed up you xserver
[10:04] <vbgunz> I am not screensaver crazy but Linux aint big on games and I just wish to test the driver out on some screensavers which in my opinion immediately tell me if things are working like they should
[10:04] <setite> happens to me alot when i start tinkering with stuff
[10:04] <chavo> cdc, well try the debs then
[10:05] <environ> anyone got a registration-free server for enemy territory :)?
[10:05] <vbgunz> yeah I must have blown it out when I did the nvidia walkthrough because it worked right before it...
[10:05] <setite> chavo... if your gonna use the tarballs use the simple untar
[10:05] <setite> just rightclick and extract...
[10:05] <LethAL-Rocks> Speaking of X Server, is it possible to re-enable the scroll on my mouse without reconfiguring the whole thine again?
[10:05] <vbgunz> environ, enemy territory play well on Ubuntu?
[10:05] <setite> then install them however its set up.. but i suggest the debs
[10:05] <environ> i guess so, i havent played it yet
[10:05] <chavo> et rocks
[10:05] <crimsun> vbgunz: the distro is less important than the hardware and drivers
[10:06] <chavo> If I'm not in here I'm playing ET
[10:06] <vbgunz> not sure I follow yor crimsun... what do you mean?
[10:06] <vbgunz> so it plays well? I'd like to try it RTCW was one of my favorite single player games
[10:06] <crimsun> vbgunz: I mean that the Linux distro used isn't as important as your graphics card, CPU, and graphics drivers
[10:07] <crimsun> a relatively recent Nvidia card will work just fine
[10:07] <setite> ubuntu rocks
[10:08] <LethAL-Rocks> We gathered
[10:08] <setite> well ubuntu sucks
[10:08] <vbgunz> I am on Breezy and I know I am not taking advantage of my graphics card... For example the machine beside has a generic 64MB card. It runs the XMATRIX screensaver perfect. Mines is a 256MB card and can't run the screensaver at all... It is far too slow.. It's horrible to be honest
[10:08] <setite> but kubuntu rocks
[10:08] <Hoxzer> Thoreauputic: when I try to run that script it says "Ignoring /dev/hdb5 - already in /etc/fstab" and I dont even have a folder /etc/fstab/
[10:08] <LethAL-Rocks> ftstab is a file
[10:08] <LethAL-Rocks> fstb*
[10:08] <setite> vbgunz - did you enable the newer driver
[10:08] <LethAL-Rocks> fstab*
[10:08] <Hoxzer> oh, its a ... file
[10:09] <Hoxzer> aargh :D
[10:09] <setite> Hoxzer yea fstab is the file... dotn need the last /
[10:09] <setite> hehe i had that problem too...
[10:09] <crimsun> vbgunz: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:09] <vbgunz> not sure how to do that... If you're referring to the Nvidia walkthrough on the Wiki I tried that... It broke my Ctrl+Alt+Backspace and no noticable results... I logged out like it said but don't see no Nvidia logo and screensavers suck hard
[10:09] <Badcel> how can I find out, which tuner is present on my tv - card?
[10:09] <setite> vbgunz - sorry havent been following... but follow that guide... you need to install the binary and then set it int he config.. then restart x
[10:10] <shadikka> Where do I have to place a "Modeline" in xorg.conf?
[10:10] <vbgunz> ok let me recheck and retrace my steps
[10:10] <setite> it doesnt break it... you mean you ctrl+alt+bksp and all you get is cli?
[10:10] <shadikka> ?? xorg
[10:10] <BockBilbo> hello
[10:10] <shadikka> whoops
[10:10] <shadikka> !xorg
[10:10] <ubotu> I guess xorg is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:10] <vbgunz> ctrl+Alt+Backspace goes to a blank screen... with a blink cursor
[10:11] <setite> then you must have edited the xorg.conf wrong
[10:11] <LethAL-Rocks> Does anybody know why point2play can't find Cedega?
[10:11] <BockBilbo> to upgrade to breezy just modify in apt hoary-->breezy and apt-get dist-upgrade, right?
[10:11] <setite> check it
[10:11] <vbgunz> yeah I am trying to not go the dpkg-reconfigure route... that use to be my thing in a sense first starting out on Ubuntu
[10:11] <setite> oh it looks easier now...
[10:12] <setite> just install nvidia-glx
[10:12] <setite> then sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:12] <setite> then restart
[10:12] <setite> i guess you dont have to edit the xorg? off
[10:12] <setite> odd*
[10:12] <mushtaq>  hi i am trying to install php from source over my kubuntu
[10:12] <mushtaq> and i am getting the following error in compilation
[10:12] <mushtaq> error: xml2-config not found. Please check your libxml2 installation
[10:13] <cyphase> anyone here in the UK?
[10:13] <mushtaq> i have installed it
[10:13] <vbgunz> yeah I never edited the xorg... except to add the "1280x1024" entry to every selection but this was after the fact the Nvidia binary walkthrough messed up the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[10:13] <mushtaq> there are many modules i have installed but still there is an error
[10:13] <Myrtti> mushtaq: why from the source
[10:13] <LethAL-Rocks> cyphase: I'm in the UK
[10:13] <chavo> mushtaq, apt-get install php
[10:13] <mushtaq> because i want to add it to my apache as a module
[10:14] <cyphase> LethAL-Rocks, you still in school?
[10:14] <vbgunz> I logged out like it said but saw no logo. Never got a warning while entering the commands and thought all was good. Then I even restarted with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" but still I see no logo or any improvements
[10:14] <LethAL-Rocks> cyphase: yeah, why?
[10:14] <LethAL-Rocks> cyphase: Not now though :P
[10:14] <setite> i never see the logo
[10:14] <setite> never have... but never have problems
[10:14] <cyphase> lol, i don't mean right now
[10:14] <Hoxzer> :D
[10:14] <LethAL-Rocks> :P
[10:14] <Hoxzer> now the name of my mount is terrible
[10:14] <setite> just regular restart
[10:15] <setite> and run glxgears
[10:15] <vbgunz> do you think I should really restart?
[10:15] <setite> see if you get over a 500
[10:15] <cyphase> have you had problems with the UK board requiring photoshop for ICT?
[10:15] <chavo> setite, did you disable the logo in xorg.conf
[10:15] <Hoxzer> 0GB Disk (hdb5) :E
[10:15] <cyphase> my cousin is having problems..
[10:15] <Hoxzer> hard to acces when in terminal
[10:15] <setite> chavo - no... just never had it
[10:15] <vbgunz> ok... I will try to really restart... I hope it works!
[10:15] <vbgunz> brb
[10:15] <LethAL-Rocks> cyphase: Nope
[10:15] <setite> but ive played games with cedega and i know that my card is enabled
[10:16] <brownie17> !tell brownie about repos
[10:16] <brownie17> !tell brownie17 about repos
[10:16] <LethAL-Rocks> Could someone help me on a few things before I go into an infinit loop?
[10:16] <BockBilbo> anyone knows if sshfs works on breezy?
[10:16] <mustafu> !tell mustafu about repos
[10:16] <BockBilbo> (in the kernel included in breezy)
[10:17] <cyphase> LethAL-Rocks, do they require any specific programs for assinments, i.e. photoshop, powerpoint
[10:17] <cyphase> assignments*
[10:17] <LethAL-Rocks> I think we got Macromedia MX suite for the AIDA course
[10:18] <cyphase> but do they require it?
[10:18] <LethAL-Rocks> I think so
[10:18] <LethAL-Rocks> I'm not sure :P
[10:18] <cyphase> k
[10:18] <cyphase> thanx
[10:19] <mustafu> !tell mustafu about mountwindows
[10:19] <HiddenFly> how can i force a program to use /dev/adsp instead of /dev/dsp?
[10:20] <LethAL-Rocks> mustafu: use "me" intstead of your whole nick
[10:20] <crimsun> BockBilbo: see if there are bug reports against sshfs-fuse
[10:21] <crimsun> HiddenFly: environment variables if you use it with aoss
[10:21] <mustafu> hehe, alright, thanks
[10:21] <LethAL-Rocks> ;)
[10:22] <setite> you know what would be funny
[10:22] <LethAL-Rocks> If someone helped me?
[10:22] <setite> if someone who worked at best buy woudl slip ubuntu discs into all the windows boxes
[10:22] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[10:22] <LethAL-Rocks> :P
[10:22] <HiddenFly> crimsun: ?
[10:22] <setite> LethAL-Rocks whats the problem
[10:22] <LethAL-Rocks> the? I have a few
[10:22] <setite> im not expert but i might be able to help on some
[10:22] <sobersabre> any breezy ppc people in here ?
[10:22] <zcat[1] > sobersabre: yes, kinda
[10:22] <setite> ppc
[10:23] <setite> poppycock
[10:23] <LethAL-Rocks> Scroller on mouse stopped working. Can I re-enable without reconfiguring X?
[10:23] <crimsun> HiddenFly: see the aoss ('alsa-oss' package) readme
[10:23] <HiddenFly> k
[10:23] <sobersabre> i don't mean user. i mean _developers_of_breezy_ .... hopefully...
[10:23] <setite> well why did it break
[10:23] <setite> what did you do
[10:23] <zcat[1] > ahh.. no
[10:23] <LethAL-Rocks> I assume something to do with X ;)
[10:23] <HiddenFly> "no manual entry for alsa-oss
[10:23] <LethAL-Rocks> What, I dunno
[10:23] <HiddenFly> same with aoss
[10:24] <crimsun> HiddenFly: you probably don't have the alsa-oss package installed
[10:24] <zcat[1] > why dev?
[10:24] <HiddenFly> ok, should i have it installed?
[10:24] <setite> what enablers it... emulate3button?
[10:24] <elvirolo> hi all
[10:24] <LethAL-Rocks> in xorg.conf?
[10:24] <elvirolo> does anyone use thunderbird here ?
[10:24] <ShortDogg> i can't work out how to install xfce :( it's soo confusing
[10:24] <tga> ShortDogg, sudo apt-get install xfce4
[10:25] <zcat[1] > Anyone else running breezy on OldWorld PPCs yet?
[10:25] <holycow> *oooo*
[10:25] <setite> well check your mouse settings
[10:25] <holycow> breezy usplash is niiice :)
[10:25] <holycow> haha
[10:25] <ShortDogg> yes tga i tied that but it said package not found
[10:25] <LethAL-Rocks> setite: CorePointer, Device /dev/input/mice, Protocol ImPS/2 and ZAxisMapping 4.5
[10:25] <LethAL-Rocks> It's a usb mouse though :S
[10:26] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: first add the universe repository
[10:26] <tga> ShortDogg, you must have the Universe repository enabled
[10:26] <elvirolo> i'd like to know if Thunderbird stores the conf files in ~/.thunderbird or in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[10:26] <thoreauputic> !repos
[10:26] <ubotu> [repos]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:26] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: ^^^^
[10:26] <tga> !tell ShortDogg about repos
[10:26] <ShortDogg> i went to that site but i dont understand
[10:27] <setite> check the mouse settings... i dont remember how to do that in gnome
[10:27] <setite> but check that...
[10:27] <LethAL-Rocks> I'm in KDE... but I have gnome as well
[10:27] <thoreauputic> ShortDogg: mind if I pm you?
[10:27] <ShortDogg> no i don't mind
[10:27] <setite> kde is better
[10:27] <LethAL-Rocks> lol
[10:27] <setite> open konqueror...
[10:27] <setite> then go to the device thing
[10:27] <LethAL-Rocks> Do I have to >.<
[10:28] <LethAL-Rocks> :P
[10:28] <setite> well you want to be lazy
[10:28] <LethAL-Rocks> I meant I don't like it
[10:28] <ShortDogg> it won;t let me send u pm's
[10:28] <setite> i woudl reconfigure x because it doenst take long... but this si the only other way i can think of
[10:28] <LethAL-Rocks> I prefer Krusader
[10:28] <setite> krusader?
[10:28] <LethAL-Rocks> ya
[10:28] <LethAL-Rocks> Dual-pane
[10:28] <setite> well whatever that main thing is called