[00:02] <lime4x4> what is the best way to install drivers for a nvidia 630i main board? Ubuntu doesn't recognize over half of my hardware
[00:07] <telee> lime4x4 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4188422 and https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/22924 i dont know if this is of much hjelp though
[00:10] <lime4x4> i got the graphic card working. Had to install the 169 nvidia drivers
[00:11] <lime4x4> but i have no sound and over half the hardware isn't detected. I should've checked more into it before buying this htpc board. just saw nvidia and i thought it was an older model guess not..lol
[00:11] <telee> are those the restricted drivers
[00:11] <telee> hehe
[00:11] <telee> did you dl alsa?
[00:11] <lime4x4> the restricted drivers from ubuntu don't work. had to install the latest drivers from nvdia.com
[00:11] <dannyboy79> I am trying to update-modules && rmmod ivtv && modprobe ivtv and it says ivtv is in use. how can I solve this?
[00:12] <lime4x4> i wil try that
[00:12] <frank23> recordings sometimes start appearing as a static screen of crap until I restart X. any ideas on how to 'reset' this without restarting X?
[00:13] <lime4x4> alsa-base is installed
[00:13] <frank23> the menu still works fine
[00:13] <dannyboy79> i added options ivtv yuv_buffers=32 mpg_buffers=16 vbi_buffers=16 pcm_buffers=16 dec_osd_buffers=2 to the /etc/modprobe.conf so that I could get rid of buffer full errors.
[00:13] <lime4x4> when i ntype alsamixer i get no device found
[00:14] <telee> are you in synaptic?
[00:14] <telee> lime4x4
[00:14] <lime4x4> no command line
[00:14] <telee> oh try synaptic... search alsa.... and it will show up other apps that you may need.  you could need to get alsamixer too or something
[00:14] <telee> search alsa in synaptic
[00:15] <dannyboy79> can onyone help with adding options to the ivtv module for a PVR-350?
[00:15] <lime4x4> ok i will try that
[00:23] <dannyboy79> trying to add options for ivtv module in /etc/modprobe.conf, is that correct? Also how do I rrmod ivtv module. it complains it's in use?
[00:25] <lime4x4> telee: i got the sound working. had to install the linux-backports-module. Still have a alot of devices that aren't detected yet but atleast i have the base system up and running
[00:27] <lime4x4> also by the way i tried hardy and that had the same problem with hardware detection
[00:32] <dannyboy79> can anyone help please?
[00:35] <dannyboy79> I am trying to add options for ivtv module. can anyone help please.
[01:45] <npurciful> hows it going
[02:22] <lime4x4> how do i adjust my video settings for a wide screen tv 51" mythbuntu detects it as a hitachi ptv resolution set to 1920x1080. connected by a dvi cable.I have mythtv setup to use widescreen 16:9 i have 3 inches of black bars at the top and bottom when whatching tv and when mythtv menus i can't c all the options cause it over streches the image
[02:26] <superm1> welcome to dvi overscan
[02:26] <superm1> three options
[02:26] <superm1> 1) switch to vga
[02:26] <superm1> 2) adjust the size mythfrontend is allowed to take up (other apps will still suffer this fate)
[02:26] <superm1> 3) try to build a custom mode line to work around it
[02:27] <lime4x4> well tv has no vga connection.the motherboard uses vga,dvi and hdmi
[02:28] <superm1> then your best bet is probably 2
[02:28] <superm1> unless you can find a modeline to satisfy 3
[02:28] <lime4x4> i do have an adapter that goes from vga to component thou
[02:29] <superm1> that picture likely will suffer overscan problems too
[02:29] <lime4x4> geez just when i thought i was geting some where...lol
[02:30] <javatexan> hey guys
[02:30] <lime4x4> spent 4 days getting this htpc motherboard working since it's not supported by gutsy
[02:30] <superm1> lime4x4, yeah its unfortunate the way dvi is handled on tvs
[02:30] <lime4x4> u think hdmi would be better?
[02:30] <superm1> that's why i'm greatful that my tv has a vga port :)
[02:31] <superm1> likely would perform the same since hdmi == dvi +audio
[02:31] <javatexan> I am running lirc, I used irw to find out which buttons I needed to change, and I changed the .lircrc to have repeat 1 and delay 2, ive restarted lirc and FE........But repeat doesnt seem to be working, am I missing something
[02:32] <lime4x4> ok i guess it's back to the drawing board yet again...lol
[02:32] <superm1> lime4x4, well for now change the settings in myth
[02:32] <superm1> and things should be more usable
[02:32] <lime4x4> well do
[02:33] <superm1> javatexan, modify the proper lircrc
[02:33] <superm1> probably in ~/.mythtv/lircrc
[02:33] <superm1> or in hardy in ~/.lirc/
[02:33] <javatexan> 7.10?
[02:34] <javatexan> okay...I'll try the ~/.mythtv/lircrc
[02:36] <lime4x4> okay next task anyone knows how to play a mp3 thru xmms when the mps is stored remotely? I have all my audio on the mythtv box
[02:37] <superm1> you still use xmms?
[02:37] <superm1> didn't realize anyone still used that
[02:38] <lime4x4> yeah i like the interface
[02:38] <superm1> well it shouldn't be any different than mounting it locally
[02:38] <superm1> via nfs
[02:38] <superm1> or cifs
[02:39] <lime4x4> the only one that works is amarok
[02:39] <lime4x4> all my folders on the mythtv box are using samba
[02:40] <lime4x4> i like xmms cause i use gdesklets with the xmms plugin
[02:44] <superm1> than mount it using smbfs or cifs
[02:44] <superm1> and you'll be fine
[02:45] <lime4x4> ok thanks
[02:59] <MythbuntuGuest24> Hi anyone do much with Motorla Cable Boxes?
[03:48] <MythbuntuGuest27> someone please tell me where to access the dvd regionset util?
[04:20] <superm1> command line
[04:20] <superm1> type regionset
[04:22] <MythbuntuGuest27> thaks
[04:54] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest24, ping
[04:54] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest24, what are you trying to do?
[05:15] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, i dont think you should take it personally; but he doesn't like you apparently
[05:25] <toorima> is there a setting in the control center for mythweb over https or is it do-it-yourself?
[05:26] <superm1> yourself
[05:26] <toorima> k
[05:26] <toorima> thx
[05:26] <toorima> dont want anyone sniffing my password
[14:50] <Seeker`> I'm getting xmltv error 512 when myth tries to run mythfilldatabase automatically, but I can run it fine manually
[14:50] <Seeker`> any idea how to fix it?
[15:50] <Aquahallic_> Mornin' folks
[15:52] <Aquahallic_> I installed mythtv-frontend on my ubuntu... when I fire it up it comes up then it goes to scaling images.. and then just closes... in my log file I see 'Ran out of GART memory (for 1048576)'
[15:52] <Aquahallic_> anyone seen this before?
[15:52] <laga> which log file?
[15:52] <Aquahallic_> mythfrontend log
[15:53] <Aquahallic_> when it started crashing I set it to output a logfile
[15:54] <directhex> what video card & driver?
[15:54] <Aquahallic_> ATI Radeon 9700 and I'm not using restricted drivers
[15:54] <Aquahallic_> here's the WEIRD thing.....
[15:54] <Aquahallic_> it WAS working
[15:58] <Aquahallic_> I'm using compiz fusion... and it was working fine
[15:58] <Aquahallic_> I've set some visuals on my windows minimizing and things..
[15:58] <laga> disable compiz fusion?
[15:59] <Aquahallic_> well.. it was working with compiz fusion fine
[15:59] <Aquahallic_> let me turn off these window visuals and see if maybe they have ahold of something it wants???
[15:59] <laga> like, memory? :)
[16:01] <Aquahallic_> hmmm
[16:01] <Aquahallic_> that didn't fix it...
[16:01] <Aquahallic_> this is also in the log at the bottom
[16:01] <Aquahallic_> Ran out of GART memory (for 1048576)
[16:02] <Aquahallic_> *********************************WARN_ONCE*********************************
[16:02] <Aquahallic_> File r300_mem.c function r300_mem_alloc line 225
[16:02] <Aquahallic_> Ran out of GART memory (for 1048576)!
[16:02] <Aquahallic_> Please consider adjusting GARTSize option.
[16:02] <Aquahallic_> ***************************************************************************
[16:02] <Aquahallic_> Error: Could not get dma buffer... exiting
[16:02] <Aquahallic_> I have a gig of memory on this thing.. and really nuttin' open
[16:03] <laga> Please consider adjusting GARTSize option.
[16:03] <laga> :)
[16:03] <Aquahallic_> TOP says I have 220 meg left open
[16:03] <Aquahallic_> where on earth do I adjust that?
[16:03] <Aquahallic_> LOL
[16:04] <laga> in xorg.conf maybe
[16:04] <laga> google can help here, too
[16:04] <laga> i don't use compiz fusion and i don't like the free radeon driver either so i can't tell you much abouit that stuff :)
[16:04] <laga> s/abouit/about/
[16:05] <Aquahallic_> :P
[16:05]  * Aquahallic_ starts diggin
[16:06] <directhex> GART memory would elate to the mapping between the AGP bus and the video memory on your card
[16:06] <Aquahallic_> gotcha'
[16:06] <Aquahallic_> I think I might have found it... looks like it is a xorg.conf entry
[16:07] <Aquahallic_> so would that be the same as the "AGP Aperature"
[16:11] <Aquahallic_> what are you folks thoughts on using the restricted drivers???
[16:11] <Aquahallic_> for my ATI
[16:11] <Aquahallic_> should... shouldn't.. good move... DON'T DO IT....LOL
[16:15] <directhex> not using ati is the easiest option, of course ;)
[16:16] <Aquahallic_> that's what I figured... and ubuntu installed found my card and my graphics look BEAUTIFUL
[16:17] <Aquahallic_> well... I made some adjustments to xorg.conf
[16:17] <Aquahallic_> lemme restart X and give it a whirl...:)
[16:17] <Aquahallic_> thx... bbiab
[16:26] <Aquahallic> WHOO HOO!
[16:27] <laga> worky?
[16:27] <Aquahallic> YUP YUP
[16:27] <laga> cool
[16:28] <laga> maybe you want to document that in the forums
[16:28] <laga> or
[16:28] <laga> even better
[16:28] <laga> file a bug against mythbuntu and xserver-xorg
[16:28] <laga> and let them deal with it :)
[16:28] <Aquahallic> well.. I don't think it's so much of a bug.. as misconfiguration
[16:28] <Aquahallic> I JUST did this ubuntu install
[16:28] <laga> yeah, but maybe the xorg guys want to workaround it by default :)
[16:28] <Aquahallic> and took all the "defaults" in xorg
[16:29] <Aquahallic> in actuality there were NO options that came up for my card
[16:29] <Aquahallic> found that compiz will drop all your title bars without a couple options there
[16:30] <Aquahallic> that baffled me BIG TIME
[16:30] <Aquahallic> lol
[16:30] <Aquahallic> what I actually did though was... I found another guy's xorg.conf that has same card as me
[16:30] <Aquahallic> I took most all his "options" and popped 'em in
[16:31] <laga> yeah
[16:31] <Aquahallic> made a HELL of a difference with my desktop graphix too...:)
[16:31] <laga> need to report a bug against xorg-server then
[16:31] <Aquahallic> speed wise
[16:31] <Aquahallic> ahh
[16:31] <Aquahallic> k
[16:31] <laga> care to show me, btw?
[16:31] <laga> got a ati vga card myself
[16:31] <Aquahallic> so it'll populate by default you mean?
[16:31] <Aquahallic> sure
[16:31] <Aquahallic> lemme find that link
[16:32] <Aquahallic> it was ACTUALLY a guy talking about a blank boot screen with his ATI
[16:32] <laga> ah
[16:32] <Aquahallic> I have that too.. just hadn't gotten around to addressing it yet...:)
[16:32] <Aquahallic> maybe I killed 2 birds with one stone....:P
[16:32] <Aquahallic> lemme find ya the link I used
[16:33] <Aquahallic> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=317545
[16:33] <Aquahallic> I plopped all his options in... tried mythfrontend and it was DOG SLOW on the xml menus
[16:33] <Aquahallic> I had to comment out that PCI line
[16:34] <Aquahallic> and it's SMOKIN' fast now
[16:34] <Aquahallic> :P
[16:34] <laga> which PCI line
[16:34] <laga> because my frontend is slow, too.
[16:34] <Aquahallic> k
[16:34] <Aquahallic> hold
[16:34] <laga> would be awesome to get this resolved
[16:34] <Aquahallic> Option "BusType" "PCI" #!!! for direct rendering to work
[16:34] <laga> i mean, i already got some speed improvements, but it's still noticable slower
[16:35] <laga> ah
[16:35] <Aquahallic> I took that out.. and it was like a new 'puter
[16:35] <Aquahallic> :P
[16:35] <laga> well, too bad my card is actually PCI :)
[16:35] <Aquahallic> might TRY it though
[16:35] <Aquahallic> worth a shot
[16:35] <Aquahallic> lol
[16:35] <laga> yeah, i'll try those options (those which apply to my setup at least)
[16:35] <laga> Aquahallic: Option "AccelMethod" "XAA"
[16:35] <laga> you might try EXA here.
[16:35] <Aquahallic> mine's integrated with my laptop
[16:35] <laga> no promises, but it might be faster.
[16:36] <Aquahallic> what exactly is that??
[16:36] <laga> different acceleration methods provided by the X server
[16:36] <Aquahallic> ahh
[16:36] <laga> i think EXA is the default in newer setups so that's maybe that was breaking it. not sure
[16:36] <laga> worth a try :)
[16:36] <Aquahallic> well.. it wasn't in there when mythtv was bombing
[16:36] <Aquahallic> I had like NO options with the default
[16:37] <Aquahallic> heh... this is SWEET... got mythtv on one side of my cube in compiz...:)
[16:37] <jduggan> my box when it had gentoo on could play 720p content just fine with a pci nvidia 5200, running mythbuntu it chokes and is also slow - any of you guys got any suggestions?
[16:37] <blkorpheus> gotta love that
[16:38] <jduggan> its a p4 3.06ghz, with 2gb memory and PCI nvidia 5200
[16:38] <Aquahallic> oh yeah.. it's BEAUTIFUL!
[16:39] <blkorpheus> :)
[16:39] <laga> jduggan: no, sorry :/ maybe some xorg.conf option?
[16:39] <blkorpheus> jduggan, you should have no problem
[16:39] <laga> check http://wiki.mythtv.org
[16:39] <jduggan> it *should* be able to handle 720p content, especially *cough* blueray rips, but it doesnt
[16:39] <blkorpheus> specifically check the nvidia page on the mythtv wiki
[16:39]  * blkorpheus looking for link
[16:40] <Aquahallic> well.. the woman has a "TO-DO" list for me.. and the longer I sit here.. the more $HIT she's adding to it...LOL
[16:40] <Aquahallic> lemme get that done... I'll post a bug on the ATI also for xorg
[16:40] <Aquahallic> thanx again for ALL your help as usual folks
[16:41] <laga> glad it helped
[16:41] <laga> i'll try those xorg options too :)
[16:41] <blkorpheus> jduggan, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Nvidia
[16:43] <jduggan> AGP is a minimum as the PCI bus does not have the bandwidth for HDTV
[16:43] <jduggan> uhm
[16:43] <jduggan> im assuming thats raw HDTV?
[16:43] <jduggan> not ripped stuff
[16:43] <jduggan> perhaps my PCI card is the problem
[16:44] <blkorpheus> I would guess
[16:44] <blkorpheus> you would want agp or pci-E
[16:46] <jduggan> my box has onboard VGA(d-sub) with no AGP/PCI-E slot, i was getting issues with dull colour on my HDTV via the d-sub card and found my PCI-DVI card sorted this (as well as allowing me to run native resolution via HDMI)
[16:46] <jduggan> it could well be the PCI bus in that case
[16:46] <jduggan> since i introduced that AFTER playing HD content via the onboard vga
[16:47] <laga> i wish i'd gotten a mainboard with two PEG slots, too :/
[16:47] <jduggan> so im stuck, either get crappy colour and no native resolution with ability to play HD, or run native resolution and good colour and not play HD content :P
[16:48] <jduggan> there's also a third option
[16:48] <jduggan> i guess
[16:48] <jduggan> and that's to buy new hardware
[16:48] <jduggan> but i hate spendin ;P
[16:48] <laga> :)
[16:48] <laga> i hate throwing perfectly good hardware away
[16:48] <jduggan> yea
[16:49] <jduggan> this is a 3ghz box with 2gb matched pair
[16:49] <jduggan> its ddr1 so cost a small fortune hehe
[16:49] <protonchris> Perhaps a silly question: Can I run a mythbuntu frontend on my tv-out and a ubuntu desktop on the vga out at the same time?
[16:49] <jduggan> protonchris: yes
[16:49] <laga> i could get a new mainboard for 40€ with digital audio out and two PEG slots, same chipset as my current motherboard. but i don't want to :)
[16:49] <laga> protonchris: depends.
[16:50] <laga> protonchris: in most cases, you can't run two separate X servers. that way, you'll run into focus issues if someone is working on the ubuntu desktop
[16:50] <jduggan> problem i have is that i've just spent money on 2gb of ddr1 - a new motherboard will make that redundant
[16:50] <jduggan> you can run the tv as a second extended screen
[16:51] <jduggan> i havent used tv-out in years, but IIRC the nvidia driver/setup util supports that
[16:51] <laga> it's also possible that there'll be odd video scaling problems with mythtv if the VGA monitor has a different aspect ratio than the TV set. at least that's what i was experiencing with my nvidia card. YMMV
[16:52]  * laga never got the problem fixed that the tv-out kept coming up as primary screen in X
[16:52] <jduggan> :/
[16:52] <protonchris> jduggan: what do you use instead of tv-out (dvi -> hdmi)?
[16:53] <jduggan> yes, and also in my office i have a dual output card (1x vga, 1xDVI), i link the vga to an old 21" CRT and use that as a TV
[16:54] <jduggan> connected to my workstation
[16:54] <jduggan> or one of my workstations :)
[16:54] <protonchris> Thanks for the info.  The machine I run my frontend and backend on seems under utilized so I was thinking of using it as a desktop as well.
[16:54] <laga> jduggan: while it can work and while it might be good enough for some people, i just don't like it. that wasn't meant to keep you, protonchris, from trying it :)
[16:55] <protonchris> laga: I understand :)
[16:55]  * laga "solved" the problem by adding a second VGA card which opened another box of different issues
[16:55] <jduggan> heh
[16:55] <jduggan> i had issues with a second card
[16:55] <jduggan> never got it working right
[16:55] <jduggan> but managed to find a dual card in my loft
[16:56] <jduggan> geforce 4 something or other
[16:56] <jduggan> :)
[16:56] <protonchris> I guess I could solve my "problem" by getting a tiny dedicated frontend (it would be nice not to have my noisy machine in the living room).
[16:56] <protonchris> Have either of you two looked into dedicated frontends?
[16:56] <jduggan> i have a dedicated frontend
[16:57] <AlsMe> I'm looking for a fully supported digital that can go with Ubuntu
[16:58] <protonchris> jduggan: what do you use (appliance, quiet computer, etc)?
[16:58] <AlsMe> can someone please tell me a good card to go with
[16:59] <jduggan> AlsMe: well, its an intel board, it actually is a backend, but i boot from a usb flash drive and nfs mount my recordings DIR, so its quiet
[17:00] <jduggan> protonchris: then my other frontend is connected to a workstation my office as i mentioned above
[17:00] <jduggan> AlsMe: it's pretty silent :)
[17:00] <jduggan> in my office*
[17:00] <jduggan> er, protonchris rather
[17:00] <protonchris> HeHe
[17:00] <AlsMe> and the name of this card that your speaking of jduggan?
[17:00] <jduggan> AlsMe: nvidia anything 5200<
[17:01] <jduggan> AlsMe: sorry, i was talkin to protonchris, but auto completed your nick
[17:01] <AlsMe> ohhh.
[17:01] <jduggan> AlsMe: youre looking for graphics card or tv card?
[17:11] <AlsMe> tv card
[17:12] <AlsMe> its going on my mythtv backend for recording tv :)
[17:12] <AlsMe> what should I go with?
[17:53] <tgm4883_laptop> wtf, i'm getting some funky errors in mythbackend.log
[17:55] <tgm4883_laptop> anyone ever see anything like MainServer: HandleRemoteEncoder(cmd GET_STATE) Unknown encoder: 1
[18:02] <superm1> yes
[18:02] <superm1> i've seen similar
[18:04] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, is it bad?
[18:04] <tgm4883_laptop> or easily fixable?
[18:04] <superm1> you just asked if i have seen it
[18:04] <superm1> not if i knew anything about it:)
[18:04] <tgm4883_laptop> right, but then there was a part 2
[18:04] <tgm4883_laptop> it was hidden
[18:04] <superm1> i saw it once a long long time ago
[18:05] <tgm4883_laptop> I have a hunch
[18:05] <superm1> yes it was in a world far far away
[18:05] <superm1> nice job!
[18:05] <tgm4883_laptop> I'm wondering if it has anything to do which the fact that I have a tuner or two that I haven't setup yet
[18:05] <tgm4883_laptop> ie, i put them under capture cards, but i didn't put any video sources associated with them
[18:05] <superm1> why would you do that?
[18:06] <tgm4883_laptop> well, i'm still working on getting my ir blasting working on my pvr500
[18:06] <tgm4883_laptop> I was hoping that I could associate my pvr150, and it would record so I would have time with my pvr500 to work on it
[18:06] <tgm4883_laptop> but alas, that is not the case
[18:07] <tgm4883_laptop> and also so i could have time to hookup my external antenna
[18:07] <tgm4883_laptop> for my HD-5500
[18:07] <superm1> sounds like an overall lack of drive for success
[18:08] <tgm4883_laptop> heh
[18:08] <tgm4883_laptop> could be
[18:08] <superm1> but really still no luck with the blasting?
[18:08] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[18:08] <tgm4883_laptop> in fact
[18:08] <tgm4883_laptop> i've actually regressed
[18:08] <tgm4883_laptop> now my pvr150 doesn't want to blast either
[18:09] <tgm4883_laptop> so to sum it up
[18:09] <tgm4883_laptop> I have absolutly no working mythbuntu machine right now :(
[18:09] <tgm4883_laptop> Its a sad day
[18:09] <superm1> maybe hardy will help?
[18:10] <tgm4883_laptop> Are you telling me to run unstable?
[18:10] <superm1> well all the cool kids do it
[18:10] <superm1> are you not cool?
[18:10] <tgm4883_laptop> im cool
[18:10]  * tgm4883_laptop starts burning a hardy disk
[18:11] <superm1> yeah i mean if $things dont work in gutsy, its worth a shot, and it gets us someone else to file hardy bugs :)
[18:11] <tgm4883_laptop> true
[18:11] <tgm4883_laptop> I should run .21 too
[18:12] <tgm4883_laptop> whats the status on that?  Are we still planning on it being in for hardy?
[18:12] <superm1> i'm really thinking about switching to 0.21 in 8 days
[18:12] <superm1> eg switching hardy to it
[18:12] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[18:12] <tgm4883_laptop> sweet
[18:12] <jduggan> im getting lines running across my screen, i'm not sure how to describe it - its like tearing of the video horizontally, normally when there's fast moving pictures etc - its not strictly a myth issue as i get this when watching mplayer in fullscreen
[18:12] <tgm4883_laptop> err, dev channel
[18:12] <jduggan> but does anyone have experience of this?
[18:12] <jduggan> or indeed know how to fix it
[18:13] <tgm4883_laptop> jduggan, sounds like a vsync issue
[18:13] <superm1> +1 ^
[18:13] <jduggan> its just a horizontal line which somtimes moves up and down the screen
[18:13] <jduggan> tgm4883_laptop: what does one do to rectify that?
[18:13] <tgm4883_laptop> which vid card?
[18:13] <jduggan> 5200
[18:13] <jduggan> nvidia
[18:14] <jduggan> oh wait
[18:14] <jduggan> no thats a lie
[18:14] <jduggan> its an intel
[18:14] <jduggan> heh
[18:14] <jduggan> onboard
[18:14] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[18:14] <tgm4883_laptop> not sure on an intel
[18:14] <jduggan> Q965
[18:14] <tgm4883_laptop> nvidia settings (probably ati too) have a vsync setting
[18:14] <jduggan> yea - ive seen that
[18:15] <jduggan> this is onboard intel
[19:10] <javatexan> afternoon guys!!1
[19:16] <javatexan> wow...I had to nice mencoder to 20 just so it will play nice  with mplayer.  Its odd, before I nice 20 on mencoder, its PRI was 35; but with nice 20, its PRI is 39.....It keeps cheating....LOL
[20:13] <v0lksman> anyone here able to help with spdif in the latest release?
[20:15] <laga> not unless you ask a question
[20:16] <v0lksman> hahaha...aight...well I get spdif passthrough working with mplayer in a shell..but in myth it never passes 5.1 no matter what settings I try....
[20:17] <v0lksman> currently I have Alsa:Default as my Audio and Default as the passthrough device...I have checked AC3 passthrough option...but my stereo still only says its getting 2 channel feed...
[20:17] <v0lksman> I also have problems in mythmusic where the audio sounds like its missing parts (IE a guitar or soemtimes the drums are very muted)....
[20:17] <v0lksman> no clue where to look for solutions...I've read the Myth wiki....
[20:18] <lime4x4> trying to mount a share on a gutsy box. the folder is on my mythtv box. Here is what i put in my fstab but when i try to mount it i get an error about invalid share name //<IP_ADDRESS>/media/sdb1/music   /media   smbfs   credentials=/etc/samba/user,rw,uid=john   0   0
[20:18] <laga> v0lksman: you probably need to modify the passthrough device. not sure. maybe you've missed something when you were reading the mythtv wiki
[20:18] <v0lksman> lime4x4 what does smbtree output?
[20:19] <v0lksman> yeah I've been over it a few times...I think I'll take a break and try again later...was hoping for something stupid I overlooked or a known issue...
[20:19] <laga> v0lksman: i don't have an AV receiver yet, unfortunately. :/
[20:19] <v0lksman> no worries...I'll try it again later when I'm not so frustrated... :)
[20:21] <lime4x4> give me a sec i have to install that app on the mythbox
[20:22] <laga> he's gone :/
[20:25] <lime4x4> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3922/  here is copy of smbtree and smb.conf
[20:26] <dwf_starband> im having trouble retriving lineups,  according to scheduals direct everything is good on their side, so its something wrong on my side, here is what i posted on the forum,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=678915
[20:29] <laga> dwf_starband: have you tried posting on the SD forum?
[20:30] <dwf_starband> yes i have searched their forums, and tried different things (but nothing worked) i emailed their tech support, and they gave me a link to a how-to to manually retreive their lineups and it worked fine that way, so its something wrong on my side, not thiers
[20:31] <tgm4883_laptop> lime4x4, I believe it should be //<IP_ADDRESS>/music
[20:33] <dwf_starband> http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=295 is what I did to confirm data download from schedules direct
[20:34] <laga> dwf_starband: sorry, can't be of much help here since i'm not located in america
[20:35] <dwf_starband> ok, is their a time when an american who might know frequents this place?
[20:38] <tgm4883_laptop> dwf_starband, any errors in the backend log?
[20:41] <lime4x4> i will try that
[20:42] <dwf_starband> how do i check that?
[20:43] <lime4x4> odd that worked
[20:44] <tgm4883_laptop> lime4x4, not really that odd
[20:44] <tgm4883_laptop> as that is the correct usage
[20:44] <lime4x4> odd to me cause i'm not using the default folder for music
[20:44] <tgm4883_laptop> dwf_starband, check in /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[20:45] <tgm4883_laptop> lime4x4,
[20:45] <dwf_starband> thanks i just found it, im looking
[20:45] <tgm4883_laptop> [music]
[20:45] <tgm4883_laptop> comment = Music
[20:45] <tgm4883_laptop> path = /media/sdb1/music
[20:46] <lime4x4> i c now
[20:46] <tgm4883_laptop> lime4x4, ^^ says that your music share is /media/sdb1/music
[20:46] <lime4x4> Even thou mounting it now on my gutsy box still doesn't allow xmms to play and music files
[20:49] <dwf_starband> here is my mythbackend.log http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3923/
[20:53] <tgm4883_laptop> heh, basically tells us what we already know
[20:53] <dwf_starband> what does this line mean?
[20:53] <dwf_starband> 2008-01-26 09:14:19.448 DataDirect, Error: UpdateProgramViewTable no dd_state!
[20:53] <tgm4883_laptop> is that it doesn't like the u/p
[20:55]  * tgm4883_laptop shrugs
[20:56] <tgm4883_laptop> dwf_starband, i dont think it matters, as it doesn't appear to like the u/p.  So everything after that is suspect to be incorrect
[20:56] <tgm4883_laptop> lime4x4, do you have the proper permissions?
[20:56] <dwf_starband> what is u/p ?
[20:56] <tgm4883_laptop> and codecs
[20:56] <tgm4883_laptop> user / password
[20:58] <dwf_starband> oh, ok
[20:58] <laga> you sure you don't have any typos in there?
[20:59] <dwf_starband> i have removed the video source in the backend setup and retried a couple of times
[21:00] <laga> do you have any special characters in there which could cause problems?
[21:00] <dwf_starband> i have changed the user name and password for SD and then again on the video setup
[21:00] <dwf_starband> i used dwf_starband before, but then i changed it to one with just letters but that made no difference
[21:01] <dwf_starband> i switched back after, I could try again I guess
[21:01] <laga> dwf_starband: does it work with xmltv?
[21:01] <dwf_starband> yes it worked fine
[21:02] <tgm4883_laptop> dwf_starband, how do you change the username?  I thought SD required an email address as the username?
[21:05] <dwf_starband> when you logon to thier website it shows your account overview and if you click on edit account you can change your login name and password among other things
[21:06] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[21:06] <tgm4883_laptop> have you tried using your email address?
[21:06] <tgm4883_laptop> just in case
[21:07] <dwf_starband> no, i read that the @ symbol had caused problems before, but its worth a try
[21:07] <dwf_starband> weird thing is it had been working for a few months
[21:08] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[21:08] <tgm4883_laptop> strange
[21:08] <tgm4883_laptop> maybe your account has expired?
[21:09] <dwf_starband> Expires:	Saturday, October 04, 2008
[21:10] <dwf_starband> i just tried setting up a new video source after changing my login name to email address and am getting the same 401 unauthorized when trying to fetch lineups
[21:11] <tgm4883_laptop> very odd
[21:14] <dwf_starband> wife is calling for lunch, ill still be around though if you think of a solution
[21:15] <tgm4883_laptop> k
[21:32] <jduggan> will i get mythbuntu installs on a 2gig flash drive?
[21:32] <jduggan> installed*
[21:33] <laga> yes, if you trim it down
[21:33] <jduggan> its going to be a backend/frontend, back end in that it holds the tv cards - but im going to put mysql on another box and record to an nfs share
[21:34] <jduggan> might be worth getting a bigger flash drive, but 2gb is one i have already
[21:34] <laga> just try it. i think i still have some space left on my 2G flash install
[21:57] <dwf_starband> done with lunch, any ideas on my u/p problems with schedules direct?
[22:09] <dwf_starband> do i need to have a mythtv user?
[22:14] <laga> you'll have one on your system if the backend is installed
[22:15] <dwf_starband> thats what I thought, but when I go to users and groups there isnt one listed
[22:16] <dwf_starband> there is a mythtv group but not a user
[22:16] <laga> it's hidden because it's a system user
[22:16] <laga> open a terminal and use "id mythtv" to check
[22:17] <dwf_starband> uid=109(mythtv) gid=120(mythtv) groups=120(mythtv),20(dialout),24(cdrom),29(audio),44(video)
[22:19] <laga> so you've got a mythtv user.
[22:19] <dwf_starband> ok, thanks
[22:26] <dwf_starband> how hard is it to reinstall mythbuntu? how hard to start over but keep my recordings?
[22:50] <Aquahallic> evenin' folks
[22:50] <Aquahallic> anyone use mythtv with compiz fusion???
[22:50] <Aquahallic> I'm seeing some strange behavior...:/
[22:51] <laga> Aquahallic: no.  ;) but i tried that xorg.conf entry using the XAA acceleration method and it's much faster than EXA. that's weird but it works for me ;)
[22:51] <Aquahallic> heh... KEWL!
[22:52] <Aquahallic> always glad to help...:)
[22:52] <laga> thanks :)
[22:53] <Aquahallic> yeah I'm seeing some STRANGE stuff with mythtv
[22:53] <Aquahallic> some menus want to run as a window.. and some as full screen
[22:53] <Aquahallic> there must be somekind of "tweak" I can do in compiz
[22:54] <Aquahallic> I'm just not real familiar with compiz
[22:54] <laga> you mean, some mythtv menus?
[22:55] <Aquahallic> yeah... the xml pages
[22:55] <Aquahallic> frontend windows
[22:56] <laga> you can't just run arbitrary menus as full screen and some in windowed mode
[22:56] <Aquahallic> well.. what happens is this.....
[22:57] <Aquahallic> I fire up mythtv... and my top and bottom panels show in ubuntu then if I click in the window anywhere they disappear.. like I put the "focus" on the mythtv fullscreen window
[22:57] <Aquahallic> then say I arrow down to videos.. I see the panels again
[22:58] <laga> ah.
[22:58] <laga> i think there's a workaround for that in compiz
[22:58] <Aquahallic> I'm doing a little googlin' on it...:)
[22:58] <Aquahallic> I was just curious if someone in here had already run into this
[22:58] <laga> yeah :) don't remember any specifics
[22:58] <laga> i think superm1 knows
[22:59] <Aquahallic> but MAN it SURE IS SWEET with my cube and mythtv runnin' on one side...hehe
[23:00] <Aquahallic> heh.. I think I just found it
[23:00] <Aquahallic> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-420544.html
[23:01] <Aquahallic> hmmm... I need to set a mount point for my NFS share with all my videos on it too
[23:02] <Aquahallic> guess I could just add something like.. mount xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:/var/lib/mythtv /mnt/mythtv in there too huh?
[23:03] <laga> man fstab ;)
[23:03] <Aquahallic> cause I don't want to add a line in fstab cause when I'm not at home I don't want nfs trying to mount something that's not there
[23:03] <laga> would be cool if there was a nice GUI tab
[23:03] <Aquahallic> ^^^
[23:03] <Aquahallic> heh
[23:03] <Aquahallic> I have it in fstab on my frontend that's on a desktop upstairs.. but this is my laptop
[23:04] <laga> you can add the "noauto" option to fstab
[23:04] <laga> and mount it when you need it
[23:04] <Aquahallic> yeah but I'd only want it to mount when I open mythtv
[23:05] <MythbuntuGuest93> hi installed mythbuntu today now im stuck have two problems no sound and not able to configure tv card
[23:05] <Aquahallic> if mythtv goes to look for that dir and it's not there and it's in the fstab with a 'noauto' tag then would it try to mount it when only when something tries to use it?
[23:06] <laga> Aquahallic: i think you have to mount it manually.
[23:06] <Aquahallic> ahh
[23:07] <Aquahallic> that link shows how to make a new executable with some compiz parameters on it
[23:07] <Aquahallic> I wonder if I could add the mount command there??
[23:07] <Aquahallic> just above the actually calling of mythtv
[23:09] <laga> you probably need to be root
[23:09] <laga> so throw in gksudo or something
[23:09] <laga> you'll be prompted for your password, though
[23:09] <laga> i think you can also specify that a regular user can mount it in fstab
[23:09] <Aquahallic> yup... i know you can do that
[23:10] <Aquahallic> there's a "user" flag if I remember correctly
[23:10] <adaptr> user/users
[23:10] <MythbuntuGuest93> need help to configure a intel HDA sound onboard
[23:10] <adaptr> I didn't need to confrigure anything - it was picked up automatically
[23:11] <Aquahallic> MythbuntuGuest93: try alsamixer and see if your master volume is muted...:)
[23:11] <adaptr> unless... is it a true Intel chipset, or is it one that *supports* the Intel HDA standard?
[23:12] <Aquahallic> that one bit me in the arse first time I installed mythtv
[23:12] <Aquahallic> never put my hands on linux before but I was BOUND and determined to get a mythtv up... so I went for gentoo
[23:12] <Aquahallic> OMG....LOL... THAT was BRUTAL
[23:12] <Aquahallic> initiation by FIRE
[23:13] <MythbuntuGuest93> intel corp 8280h ich8 hd audio controller
[23:13] <Aquahallic> MythbuntuGuest93: fire up alsamixer and see if any of them are muted
[23:13] <adaptr> MythbuntuGuest93: you need the ich8 module (and piix4, probably) ; see if they're loaded
[23:18] <MythbuntuGuest93> now im lost how do i fireup the alsamixer , complete nooooob
[23:18] <Aquahallic> open a console window and type alsamixer
[23:19] <Aquahallic> I think you have to have alsa-utils installed
[23:19] <laga> should be installed
[23:20] <Aquahallic> man.... superm1 says to see attached screenshot for compiz config and there's no link.....:(
[23:20] <MythbuntuGuest93> have 5 bars all in the red
[23:21] <laga> Aquahallic: maybe you need to go to the original thread.
[23:21] <laga> MythbuntuGuest93: unmuted as well? no MM there?
[23:22] <MythbuntuGuest93> front has 00 all the others have mm
[23:23] <laga> MythbuntuGuest93: maybe you want to unmute (hit M) those, especially if they're called master or pcm..
[23:23] <Aquahallic> yup... you're muted...:)
[23:23] <Aquahallic> use your arrows to go to any of them that say master or PCM and hit m
[23:23] <Aquahallic> BUT
[23:24] <Aquahallic> use your down arrow if they're all red.. .you unmute it on wide open.....:)
[23:24] <Aquahallic> I did that and near pi$$ed myself it was so lout
[23:24] <MythbuntuGuest93> have no master or pcm listed
[23:24] <Aquahallic> loud...:)
[23:24] <Aquahallic> ahh.. you have to emulate a master then
[23:24] <MythbuntuGuest93> ok
[23:24] <Aquahallic> there's a howto out there I saw on how to do it
[23:25] <Aquahallic> let me see if I can find that again....
[23:25] <MythbuntuGuest93> ok thanks
[23:28] <adaptr> MythbuntuGuest93: the channels for an HDA audio chip are PCM and Front; there is no  master as such
[23:28] <adaptr> that took me some tries, too
[23:29] <Aquahallic> there's a way to emulate a master
[23:29] <MythbuntuGuest93> have got front,surrond,center,lfe,side
[23:30] <laga> ah
[23:30] <laga> well front is everything you need
[23:30] <laga> i hope
[23:30] <laga> can't check here because i replaced my hda intel the other day
[23:30] <Aquahallic> like on my SB Audigy there's a way to emulate a master control so mythtv will use that to control your levels
[23:33] <Aquahallic> ughh... I can't remember where it's at.. but it's a gentoo wiki about alsa and dmix
[23:34] <MythbuntuGuest93> will look for it
[23:35] <adaptr> how about you just run the sound applet ?
[23:36] <MythbuntuGuest93> how is this done ?
[23:36] <Aquahallic> man... I did what that post says about the panels and mythtv with compiz.. mine are already set the way it says to... yet I still get the panels....:'(
[23:37] <adaptr> you need to start mythtv on a blank screen, and fullscreen
[23:39] <Aquahallic> ahh hah!
[23:39] <Aquahallic> BEAUTIFUL.. ty
[23:39] <Aquahallic> ;)
[23:39] <Aquahallic> although it doesn't let you see the video you're playing while spinning the cube.. but I can live with that...:)
[23:40] <adaptr> what are you using for playback, and what play mode is it set to ?>
[23:40] <Aquahallic> actually viewing livetv
[23:41] <Aquahallic> I guess if I used mplayer for my videos atleast videos would work
[23:41] <adaptr> well, unless the application has opengl support (to render to a virtual opengl window), it will indeed not work while using the aiglx extensions
[23:41] <Aquahallic> that native viewer you have to use for livetv is funky I've noticed
[23:41] <adaptr> yes, you can start mplayer on opengl
[23:41] <adaptr> that should work as advertised
[23:42] <Aquahallic> yeah but you can't do it while viewing livetv though can you?
[23:42] <Aquahallic> you have to use that native player for livetv right?
[23:42] <adaptr> I don't know, I don't have a TV card installed
[23:43] <adaptr> AM thinking about buying the PVR350 though
[23:43] <Aquahallic> ahh
[23:43] <Aquahallic> :)
[23:43] <Aquahallic> I just have a pvr 150
[23:43] <adaptr> yeah, the price diff isn't small, but the feature set is just so much better
[23:44] <Aquahallic> well I'm not doing anything real fancy or nuttin'... so the 150 is really all I need... I only have it so I can justify all the work I put into mythtv so my g'friend can record her shows.....LOL
[23:45] <Aquahallic> and I spun up samba so she can get to the mythtv share on the master backend and just drop her movies on there and watch.... makes it a turnkey media center... she LOVES how it just mounts up an iso
[23:50] <MythbuntuGuest93> tv fomat for the uk
[23:50] <MythbuntuGuest93> format soz
[23:50] <MythbuntuGuest93> is it pal m
[23:59] <Aquahallic> hmmm
[23:59] <Aquahallic> Video timing method: DRM
[23:59] <Aquahallic> shouldn't that be opengl and not DRM???
[23:59] <laga> why?


[03:07] <deadnetwork> Update manager updated the kernel on my 32 bit lucid machine.  now I have no network.  ifup won't allow eth0 anymore
[03:09] <micahg> deadnetwork: which kernel, there was an update right after the update
[03:14] <deadnetwork> <IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[03:14] <deadnetwork> sorry <IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[03:14] <micahg> yes, but what version
[03:14] <micahg> .36 was released right after .35
[03:14] <deadnetwork> how do I check the version other than uname -r
[03:15] <micahg> dpkg -l | grep <IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[03:20] <deadnetwork> looks like .33
[03:21] <deadnetwork> my update doesn't look very new according to your versions
[03:21] <micahg> deadnetwork: yeah, I think you're 2 versions behind
[03:21] <deadnetwork> is there a simple deb i can download to flash drive to install on the other pc (I can't download with apt-get)
[03:23] <micahg> deadnetwork: I think this is it: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/linux-image-2.6.32-22-generic_2.6.32-22.36_i386.deb
[03:33] <deadnetwork> ok thanks.   That brought me back up.
[03:33] <deadnetwork> ya'll take care.
[05:09] <patkc66> Hello.  I'd like to learn how to help with triaging bugs.  How do I get started?
[05:14] <ddecator> patkc66: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad for basic info, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage/ for how to triage, and this channel if you have any questions :)
[05:23] <patkc66> Thanks ddecator.  I found the first two and was going through the second one.  (The first of those was how I found this channel. Heh.) I'll continue with the reading though.  I do most of my working on Ubuntu from a VMWare workstation machine. So I figure it should be fairly easy to set up a VM to test bugs on.
[05:24] <ddecator> patkc66: sounds good. and like i said, you're more than welcome to ask any questions here. this channel has its slow times, but if you stick around someone is bound to get back to you :)
[05:25] <patkc66> I don't mind lurking to see what others think either. Nice to meet you.
[05:26] <patkc66> I always like to learn new things.  And I figured the bug-squad might be a good way to learn lots of different parts of Ubuntu that I might not otherwise try.
[05:28] <ddecator> it's a great place to learn about the workflow of the ubuntu community and to get to know a lot of people
[05:53] <patkc66> Good night. Time for bed.
[07:08] <drew212> ddecator: you around?
[07:08] <ddecator> drew212: sure am, what's up?
[07:09] <drew212> check out bug 59143
[07:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 59143 in gnome-applets (Ubuntu) "Force quit applet doesn't remove modal window when pressing <ESC> (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59143
[07:09] <drew212> i mean bug 591536
[07:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 591536 in ksystemlog (Ubuntu) "No support for small screen resolutions (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591536
[07:09] <drew212> damnit, i cant type, still the wrong one...
[07:09] <drew212> epic fail, bug 591436 ***
[07:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 591436 in firefox (Ubuntu) "3.6.6 not returnning to home tab (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591436
[07:10] <drew212> ok, isn't that what the home button is supposed to do?
[07:10] <ddecator> ...yes. let me read it again a sec to make sure i'm not overlooking something
[07:11] <drew212> and how would you suggest i politely inform the reporter of this =P
[07:11] <ddecator> heh, that's always the fun part. one sec
[07:13] <drew212> i have a response going...
[07:14] <ddecator> pft, it's formatted weird because i didn't put any line breaks, but you can try something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/447029/
[07:15] <drew212> thats about what i had, but you've worded it more professionally
[07:15] <drew212> im going to add something about marking it invalid
[07:16] <ddecator> sounds good, just add a bit saying it sounds invalid for now, but if we've misunderstood something then we can reopen the bug. they may want to file a feature request to have it changed
[07:17] <drew212> yeah
[07:17] <ddecator> which i highly doubt that would ever be changed, but sometimes people want the request to at least be there
[07:17] <drew212> yeah
[07:31] <drew212> ddecator: how do i proceed when the bug is upstream?
[07:31] <drew212> i cant triage bugs yet =X
[07:31] <ddecator> drew212: what bug are you looking at?
[07:32] <drew212> bug 591040 and its related to https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1229
[07:32] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 591040 in adobe-flashplugin (Ubuntu) "Video Plugins Don't Work, Program hangs (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591040
[07:34] <drew212> although, the related bug is REALLY old =X
[07:37] <ddecator> yah, i'm not sure it's the same bug. the behavior is similar, but we don't know enough to say the cause is the same. i would have the user try disabling the Keep Tube extension in case that's doing something funny (or try witha a new profile, but at least disable the one extension)
[07:38] <drew212> lol, i wouldn't know how to do that myself, let alone tell another person =D
[07:38] <ddecator> to test with a new profile?
[07:39] <drew212> that, and disable the extension...
[07:39] <ddecator> oh, haha, let me find you the new profile canned response (it'll take me a sec, i have it saved on FF 3.7 but that's broken atm)
[07:39] <drew212> alrite
[07:41] <ddecator> here is the new profile response (just change the beginning as needed, such as not thanking them for reporting the bug again...i did that a few times before :p) http://paste.ubuntu.com/447039/
[07:42] <ddecator> as for disabling extenstions, Tools > Add-ons > Find the extension > Highlight and click 'Disable' > Restart Firefox
[07:43] <drew212> that doesnt work with 3.6 i tested it... you have to click help, troubleshooting information, under application basics click open containing folder... but thats as far as i got
[07:43] <ddecator> creating a new profile results in no extensions being used though. we use that response a lot to make sure the problem is really with firefox and not a setting or extension
[07:43] <ddecator> drew212: what doesn't work?
[07:43] <drew212> ddecator: firefox -profilemanager
[07:44] <ddecator> drew212: should work. you don't get a pop-up that allows you to create a new profile?
[07:44] <drew212> nope
[07:44] <drew212> bug!
[07:44] <drew212> =D
[07:44] <ddecator> the case might matter, are you using '-ProfileManager'?
[07:44] <drew212> yes
[07:45] <ddecator> (otherwise 'firefox -P' should work too)
[07:45] <drew212> it just opens firefox
[07:46] <ddecator> make sure all instances of firefox are closed first :)
[07:46] <drew212> bah, i cant do that!
[07:46] <drew212> i have valuable tabs open =D
[07:46] <drew212> i multitask =D
[07:46] <ddecator> well, i just tested, and it works if firefox is closed :p
[07:50] <drew212> ddecator: it seems like it's a flash issue though, should i not have changed the package?
[07:50] <ddecator> drew212: it could be, but there is a chance that extension is doing something, so it doesn't hurt to rule it out :)
[07:51] <drew212> yeah, i modified the comment saying that =P
[07:51] <drew212> sorry for filling your inbox with bugmail =D
[07:52] <ddecator> drew212: no worries, you'll get much more from me starting next week, haha
[07:52] <drew212> lol
[08:11] <vish> ddecator: hmm , who is menoring drew212 ? you or micahg?  or sharing him ;p
[08:12] <vish> need to add him to the table.
[08:12] <ddecator> vish: not sure, students haven't been assigned. idk how available micah is since he's doing a lot more work for the mozilla team now, so i can mentor him if micah can't
[08:13] <vish> ddecator: yeah , with the upcoming FF update he'd be a bit busy.. I'll assign drew212 to you.
[08:13] <ddecator> vish: sounds good to me
[08:13] <vish> drew212: that doesnt mean you cant ask micahg Questions ;)
[08:14] <vish> drew212: whoever is around , you can ask
[08:14] <vish> ddecator: have you contacted Austin?
[08:15] <ddecator> drew212: i'll just be responsible for being available to answer any questions you have for me and helping to introduce you to everything :)
[08:15] <ddecator> vish: sent him an email tod...well, i guess yesterday now. i'll give him a few days and let you guys know, but i'm guessing he won't get back to me
[08:15] <vish> ddecator: neat. If he doesnt respond. Let us know. thanks
[08:16] <ddecator> vish: sure thing!
[08:17] <ddecator> drew212: on that note, you can find my info on my lp page, https://edge.launchpad.net/~ddecator , feel free to ping or email me any time. my schedule is going to be weird the rest of this week and part of next since i'm finishing finals and i'll be moving back home this weekend, but then my schedule should be similar to how it is now
[09:01] <BUGabundo_remote> yes mummy,I won't dance in the rain!
[10:02] <vish> hmm 0.0
[10:11] <BUGabundo_remote> vish: http://qdb.us/302272
[10:15] <vish> BUGabundo_remote: SAUsage_remote
[10:15] <vish> ;p
[10:24] <BUGabundo_remote> LOLOLOLOLOLOOLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
[10:47] <nigelbabu> chrisccoulson: poke, got a minute?
[10:47] <chrisccoulson> nigelbabu, i'm counting my spare minutes in negative numbers atm ;)
[10:47] <chrisccoulson> but yeah, i can spare a minute
[10:48] <nigelbabu> hehe, I'll PM you. when those negative numbers become positive, you can take a look :)
[10:48] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[11:22] <Wilcey> heyyy, how do i hug bugs??
[12:28] <DrKenobi> Hi! I found this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/397783 and i think it should be set to 'Triaged'.
[12:28] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 397783 in gnome-games (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "impossible game generated by Sudoku (affects: 6) (heat: 37)" [Low,New]
[12:30] <vish> DrKenobi: thanks. done
[12:32] <DrKenobi> vish thank you
[12:33] <DrKenobi> vish, this bug is on the ubuntu bug day list, should i put mu id?
[12:33] <vish> DrKenobi: sure
[12:33] <DrKenobi> vish ok, thanks
[12:33] <vish> np.
[12:53] <DrKenobi> Hi! I've just sent this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/433313 to upstream, I think it should be set ti triaged, thanks
[12:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 433313 in gnome-games (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Aisleriot should use Ctrl+q quit (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[12:55] <micahg> DrKenobi: done
[12:56] <DrKenobi> micahg thanks!
[13:16] <yofel> JFo: what would be needed to add on bug 591702? He doesn't have a network connection as the driver fails (and he's in #ubuntu+1 atm)
[13:16] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 591702 in linux (Ubuntu) "After upgrade lucid -> maverick eth0 interface is gone (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591702
[13:17] <yofel> I'll get him to file a bug with apport-cli
[13:20] <DrKenobi> Hi! I've just found this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/500839 set as duplicate, and it's not a duplicate. How do I change it?
[13:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 500839 in gnome-games (Ubuntu) "no sounds in games (dup-of: 533040)" [Undecided,Invalid]
[13:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 533040 in gnome-games (Ubuntu) "Please enable sounds by default (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 38)" [Wishlist,New]
[13:22] <micahg> DrKenobi: you should see a pencil next to the duplicate
[13:24] <DrKenobi> micahg i saw it, but the only thing i can do is remove the number of the bug, but i couldn't change the satus of the bug
[13:24] <micahg> DrKenobi: first remove the number, then refresh the page
[13:25] <DrKenobi> micahg ok, i did it, thanks
[13:42] <vish> micahg: hey , seeing that you'd be busy with the upcoming FF update and stuff , i'v assigned drew212 to ddecator .
[13:42] <micahg> vish: k
[13:57] <DrKenobi> hi, there is a bug that i sent upsrteam https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/433313 and is not going to be fixed. Should be set to 'Wont fix'?
[13:57] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 433313 in gnome-games (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Aisleriot should use Ctrl+q quit (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Wishlist,Won't fix]
[13:58] <micahg> DrKenobi: did it already :)
[13:59] <vish> hehe , 2mins diff
[13:59] <DrKenobi> micahg, 'GNOME Games' is set as Won't Fix, but what about 'gnome.gaes (Ubuntu)'?
[13:59] <micahg> DrKenobi: refresh teh page :)
[14:00] <micahg> or look at ubot2 output above :)
[14:00] <DrKenobi> micahg, ok I have to refesh the pages more often haha
[14:12] <DrKenobi> hi again, i think this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/533040 should be set a triaged
[14:12] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 533040 in gnome-games (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Please enable sounds by default (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[14:13] <Pici> I'd appreciate sounds not being on by default myself... but *shrug*
[14:13] <BUGabundo_remote> eheh
[14:13] <BUGabundo_remote> its all about UX
[14:14] <micahg> DrKenobi: done
[14:14] <DrKenobi> micahg thanks
[14:15] <micahg> wow, a day early and a nice chunk of the hugday bugs are done :)
[14:16]  * micahg wonders if we ever had a hugday where all the bugs were hugged
[14:17] <DrKenobi> dont you think this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/478558 is a wishlist?
[14:17] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 478558 in gnome-games (Ubuntu) "Aunt Mary variation of Klondike not available (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Low,Confirmed]
[14:20] <micahg> DrKenobi: no, it's a regression, check the description
[14:20] <micahg> DrKenobi: in fact, it's ubuntu specific apparently
[14:21] <DrKenobi> oh! i need to read more carefully (not  native english speaker). micahg, what would you do in this bug?
[14:22] <micahg> DrKenobi: verify that it's the case in lucid/maverick, if so, we can mark triaged
[14:23] <gnomefreak> what bug? i will be glad to test it if i can
[14:23]  * micahg added the regression-release tag
[14:23] <micahg> gnomefreak: bug 478558
[14:23] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 478558 in gnome-games (Ubuntu) "Aunt Mary variation of Klondike not available (affects: 2) (heat: 15)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/478558
[14:23] <DrKenobi> micahg: in lucid i can do it, but with maverick? should i download the alpha 1?
[14:23] <gnomefreak> micahg: thanks ill read it and see
[14:24] <micahg> DrKenobi: gnomefreak offered to check it in Maverick, just wait and see, but you can test in Lucid :)
[14:24] <bcurtiswx> good morning
[14:24] <DrKenobi> micahg: oh thanks!
[14:24] <micahg> DrKenobi: might not be a bad idea to have maverick alpha 1 on hand for testing in a VM though
[14:24] <micahg> DrKenobi: or you can use testdrive
[14:25]  * micahg needs to patch testdrive in Lucid for Virtualbox 3.2
[14:25] <bcurtiswx> what is testdrive?
[14:25] <DrKenobi> +1: what is testdrive?
[14:26] <micahg> !info testdrive
[14:26] <DrKenobi> Aunt Mary is not in Lucid
[14:26] <ubot2> micahg: testdrive (source: testdrive): run the daily Ubuntu ISO in a virtual machine. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.38-0ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 21 kB, installed size 104 kB
[14:27] <micahg> bcurtiswx DrKenobi ^^
[14:28] <bcurtiswx> micahg: thx
[14:29] <gnomefreak> DrKenobi: micahg im not seeing aunt mary or klondike. show i be looking for a different game or just those two
[14:29] <bcurtiswx> micahg: i may just do that at home
[14:29] <micahg> hggdh: sounds like we need a testdrive marketing mail to the bugsquad list :)
[14:30] <vish> hmm , whaaaaaaat! , bcurtiswx didnt know testdrive :(
[14:30] <micahg> vish: one of the things we discussed at UDS was making our toolkit more well known
[14:31]  * bcurtiswx is kept out of the loop apparently
[14:31]  * bcurtiswx thinks he should get canonical funding for the next UDS :p
[14:31] <vish> hehe , btw the way the new testdrive icon was mine <shameless> ;p
[14:32]  * txwikinger2 only stumbled coincidently over testdrive
[14:32] <vish> txwikinger2: hai , did ScottK mention about the papercuts triage?
[14:34] <txwikinger> vish: Not sure.. I was a little busy the last couple of days
[14:35] <vish> txwikinger: ah, yeah. I had asked him for some KDE folks to triage a few kde papercuts. He mentioned he would ask you the next time he sees you
[14:35] <vish> we have tagged the bugs "kde" https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bugs?field.tag=kde
[14:35] <txwikinger> Ah.. ok.. no problem
[14:35] <vish> txwikinger: neat thanks.
[14:52] <hggdh> micahg: will take care of it
[14:52] <micahg> hggdh: cool, thanks :)
[14:52] <DrKenobi> thanks micahg, good bye!
[14:52] <micahg> hggdh: I hope to patch testdrive in lucid for vbox3.2 soon
[14:53] <hggdh> micahg: this would be nice... ;-)
[14:53] <micahg> hggdh: it was already patched for maverick, just needs a packaging change now
[14:54] <hggdh> micahg: yes, I saw the merge request. You may need to rebase, though
[15:06] <Montblanc> hi everybody!
[15:06] <Montblanc> pretty please, have a look at this bug, thanks! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/591532
[15:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 591532 in linux (Ubuntu) "ata errors { DRDY ERR } { ABRT } in Lucid (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[15:11] <kklimonda> Montblanc: please, don't assign bugs to other people or teams without consulting it with them. it's impolite and it won't get anyone to work faster on the ticket anyway.
[15:12] <BlackZ> Montblanc: also, don't confirm your own bugs
[15:14] <Montblanc> kklimonda and BlackZ I'll remove the kernel team and turn back to new, sorry about that
[15:15] <kklimonda> Montblanc: no problem, we are just pointing it so you know how to proceed in the future. as for the bug itself this channel isn't the best place to ask for help. We don't really fix bugs here, just making sure they are as complete as required by other developers.
[15:16] <micahg> kklimonda: well, if the bug is new and hasn't been looked at, this is a good place :)
[15:16] <Montblanc> kklimonda, it's no problem! thank you anyways, i just hope it gets considered somehow! :)
[15:17] <kklimonda> micahg: oh? we can direct people here to help them triage their own bugs? /me didn't know :)
[15:18] <micahg> kklimonda: or we can triage them :)
[15:18] <Montblanc> kklimonda i'm sorry! -.-
[15:19]  * micahg thinks it should be more public to have people come here with their untouched bugs they care about after X days so that we don't end up with 40k New bugs in the tracker :)
[15:25] <Montblanc> i'm glad someone pointed me out how to behave in these cases and someone answered my bug anyways, maybe it was not a bad idea coming here! :)
[15:26] <micahg> Montblanc: this is a good place to come if a reasonable period of time goes by w/out a bug being looked at or if an issue is urgent and needs immediate attention
[15:26] <Montblanc> micahg i didn't know about that until I joined this channel, i'll pay more attention next time, thank you
[15:27]  * maco agrees with micahg
[15:28] <maco> its a lot faster to go back and forth on IRC and then summarise than to go back and forth over bugmail
[15:28] <BUGabundo_remote> yes it is
[15:33] <Montblanc> obviously i know it's common sense not to confirm your own bugs and assigning teams without them knowing, but I'm having this bug since official lucid release date and opening a bug on launchpad was my *last* solution, i'm stuck with karmic with a not-well-known bug and that's frustrating. *sorry* once more and thank you
[15:34] <vish> Montblanc: nothing to be sorry about, we all learn everyday :)
[15:35] <Montblanc> vish :)
[16:20] <nigelb> vish: are you sure I can't convince you to take a class at UUD?
[16:21] <vish> nigelb: i'm tried making up all the excuses i can ;)  .. it is not something I'm interested at the moment.. and dont really have time to prepare :) .. In short. sorry again :)
[16:21] <vish> i'v*
[16:22] <nigelb> vish: dude, you're giving so flimsy excuses I'm tempted to take the bike and ride out there to kick you
[16:22] <vish> nigelb: what can i saw, I'm not used to lying ;p
[16:22] <vish> say*
[16:22] <nigelb> Right.  Next time be creative.
[16:23] <nigelb> Also, if I do pass through CBE, trust me, I will kick you :p
[16:23] <vish> nigelb: i maybe old , but i still can run fast ;)
[16:24] <nigelb> vish: old? OLD?
[16:25] <vish> nigelb: well , old == not as young as you :)
[16:25] <nigelb> vish: hold on, how old are you?
[16:25] <vish> 29
[16:26] <nigelb> oh, ok
[16:26] <micahg> vish: you look younger in person :P
[16:26] <vish> hmm , i not sure how to fix that. :s
[16:27] <vish> ;p
[16:28] <bcurtiswx> 29 is old, then whats 24?
[16:28] <bcurtiswx> teenage? :P
[16:28]  * BUGabundo_remote feels old
[16:28] <BUGabundo_remote> but as old as gnomefreak
[16:29] <vish> hehe , we played this "old" tag recently on another channel!
[16:29] <BUGabundo_remote> we do
[16:29] <BUGabundo_remote> at least I see it a lot
[16:29] <BUGabundo_remote> in several #s
[16:29] <bcurtiswx> i thought you were considered reaching old when you have to shave every day :P
[16:30] <BUGabundo_remote> I shave once every 5 days
[16:31] <bcurtiswx> i shave once my fiancee starts saying "ouch" when i kiss her..
[16:31] <nigelb> lol
[16:31] <BUGabundo_remote> and it seems Im as old as vish :S
[16:31] <BUGabundo_remote> I though he was older
[16:31] <nigelb> bcurtiswx: thats a good measure
[16:31] <nigelb> BUGabundo_remote: I thought he was younger, clearly, I was wrong
[16:31] <BUGabundo_remote> bcurtiswx try to cut it a few hours before
[16:31] <BUGabundo_remote> she will aperciate
[16:31] <BUGabundo_remote> and who knows what you can get out of that
[16:32] <bcurtiswx> BUGabundo_remote: see, i don't know when it reaches "ouch" stage.. its all about feel.. lol
[16:32] <vish> bcurtiswx: or you can grow it longer and it wont prick ;)
[16:32] <BUGabundo_remote> vish: to many autchs till there
[16:33]  * bcurtiswx cries "Vish called me a prick"
[16:33] <bcurtiswx> ;)
[16:34] <vish> ;p
[16:34] <nigelb> bcurtiswx: haha, lets drag him to the cc :D :D
[16:35] <bcurtiswx> nigelb: can we use medieval methods?
[16:36] <nigelb> bcurtiswx: haha, yes!
[16:36] <bcurtiswx> \o/ woo!
[16:36] <nigelb> Just make sure he can triage after all that :D
[16:37] <bcurtiswx> eh just don't drag him behind a horse by his hands and it'll be all right
[16:38] <nigelb> haha
[16:40]  * vish waves his cane o/ , damn kids , get off my lawn ;p
[16:41] <bcurtiswx> :-O
[16:44] <nigelb> bcurtiswx: how free are you in leading an activity for bug squad?
[16:44] <nigelb> Do remember the apport hook writing I talked at last bug squad meeting?
[16:45] <bcurtiswx> nigelb: yes, i remember that.
[16:45] <nigelb> bcurtiswx: can you lead the activity? I'll help of course
[16:45] <marti1125> who speak spanish,?
[16:46] <nigelb> I can give you a list of packages in descending order of number of bugs filed and we need to sort out which has and which doesn't have hook.  I'm trying to do that right now
[16:46] <vish> !es
[16:46] <ubot2> En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[16:46] <vish> marti1125: ^
[16:46] <bcurtiswx> !es marti1125
[16:46] <ubot2> Factoid 'es marti1125' not found
[16:46] <bcurtiswx> hm figured that would work
[16:47] <nigelb> bcurtiswx: |
[16:47] <marti1125> disculpa, esque algunas cosas no entiendo sobre triage,
[16:47] <Pici> bcurtiswx: you need to use a | or a > inbetween
[16:47]  * bcurtiswx slams head on desk
[16:47] <bcurtiswx> !es | marti1125
[16:47] <ubot2> marti1125: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[16:47] <Pici> bcurtiswx: the head slamming won't help the bot much
[16:48] <BUGabundo_remote> marti1125: por favor em ingles. aqui no lo intendi espanhol
[16:48] <bcurtiswx> nigelb: yes, I can help.  I plan on watching some online courses with python that may help me with that as well
[16:48] <BUGabundo_remote> ahah Pici
[16:48] <marti1125> ok
[16:48] <BUGabundo_remote> ! smile | Pici
[16:48] <ubot2> Factoid 'smile' not found
[16:48] <BUGabundo_remote> booo
[16:48] <bcurtiswx> Pici: error with user not computer
[16:48] <bcurtiswx> :(
[16:52] <nigelb> bcurtiswx: awesome! Thanks
[16:52] <nigelb> I'll mail you soon enough
[16:52] <bcurtiswx> nigelb: OK
[16:53] <nigelb> now, to hunt down that mail
[17:48] <shishire> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-defaults/+bug/591819  I think I broke it?  At least I'm not imagining things, I can get it to do it consistently.
[17:48] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 591819 in gcc-defaults (Ubuntu) "compiled program segfault when -O0 is used to compile (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[18:24] <hggdh> shishire: try to reduce your source to a smaller subset that fails the same. You can also find out where if fails by running GDB against it
[18:24] <hggdh> knowing *where* it fails will go a long way to find the cause...
[18:25] <shishire> hggdh, yeah, I'm working on that now.  I'll include updates as I get it more specific.  I put the whole source up there just to make sure I'm not crazy or something.
[19:54] <vish> qense: hi.. you students list is pretty large. are they the old students inclusive? or just the new ones? from the wiki info seems the old ones from more than 6months ago
[19:54] <vish> your*
[19:56] <qense> vish: I just removed them because of inactivity.
[19:56] <qense> vish: Just when you asked!
[19:56] <vish> heh :D
[19:56] <qense> People do what you want them to do before you even ask them!
[19:57] <pedro_> QA Meeting at #ubuntu-quality  in ~3 minutes
[19:58] <vish> pretty awesome http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-deus-ex/100909 !
[19:58] <vish> oops! wrong tab!
[20:00] <Pici> But yes, it was pretty neat ;)
[20:02] <vish> yeah, meant it for -artwork :) , the graphics are amazing :)
[23:48] <drew212> micahg: you around?
[23:53] <drew212> ddecator: are you around?