[08:38] <sprung> however, one of the most helpful channels i have ever seen is #bash when you are trying to figure out a one-liner to save the day systems administration-wise
[08:38] <blablaa> Anubody having trubles with firefox fonts, after installing Ms-True type font installer and some ms fonts?
[08:38] <StuartPB> maco: running it with * made it try to work on irectories
[08:38] <op_amp> I will be use my whole hardrive while installing. Can someone point me to good tutorial if wubi does not work while installing Natty
[08:38] <sprung> #bash has literally not just saved my employment at a previous job but saved the company too
[08:38] <maco> StuartPB: hm. surprising.
[08:39] <Nikkk> @sprung - That's very bad feedback I'm hearing ! :)
[08:39] <Swampy-> Need some help understanding the  Indicator applet in the panel.. first off how do i fix so i can get a twitter icon that shows unread tweets. and how do i get a chat icon that flashes when i get messages?
[08:39] <sprung> lol Nikkk
[08:39] <Nikkk> sprung : :P
[08:39] <rdw200169> surt http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/smartmontools/wiki/FAQ#Iseesomestrangeoutputfromsmartctl.Whatdoesitmean
[08:40] <surt> rdw200169: Thanks.
[08:41] <sprung> but yeah #mysql im sorry to say so but most of them are a bunch of assholes they think that everybody should have studied the official MySQL manual and been a developer before being an administrator and blah blah blah and im like Shut Yo Ass Up im a mufukin gangster
[08:41] <surt> rdw200169: Nothing about that particular error.
[08:41] <maco> !language | sprung
[08:41] <surt> rdw200169: I'm going to check my BIOS. I have a feeling something is wrong there rather than the HDD. It's a good drive, I trust it.
[08:42] <sprung> Develop these hundred dollar bills entering my wallet as i administrate what you develop and try to hide that mysql administration is easy
[08:42] <znull> which raid, is best for READ/WRITE ?  I need high data transfer/write.
[08:42] <greezmunkey> sprung: I found that if I was patient with them, they were patient with me.
[08:42] <rdw200169> surt: well all say that until one day... blammo!! and then we wish we got that 1TB for $59 when it was on super sale the other day...
[08:42] <Swampy-> also how do i get an icon in the panel that directly opens my chat window and an icon that directly opens the broadcast window? thanks!
[08:42] <StuartPB> "sed -i.bak 's;#!/usr/bin/env python2;#!/usr/bin/env python;' *" why is this command trying to edit directories
[08:43] <surt> rdw200169: Those ARBT error come up every 3 months on random drives for me. I have 5 drives and every time it's a different one. This is not a drive issue.
[08:43] <sprung> greezmunkey, yeah whatever i have an interview with Google next week
[08:43] <znull> StuartPB "sed -i.bak 's;#!/usr/bin/env python2;#!/usr/bin/env python;' *.php"
[08:43] <znull> StuartPB : or *.whatever
[08:43] <rdw200169> surt: haha, i know, i just wanted to say "BLAMMO!!" (i've had my fair share of bad drives at bad times
[08:44] <surt> rdw200169: Last time they appeared I fixed them by swapping the kernel. they never came back until I did and upgrade...hah...'if it ain't broke'...
[08:44] <surt> lulz
[08:44] <sprung> StuartPB, #bash would love to help you way better than this channel will
[08:44] <StuartPB> znull: in this case it's *.nothing and there's no dot
[08:44] <sprung> StuartPB, im serious they will love what you just typed
[08:44] <StuartPB> looks like I'm going to have to edit ALL 6 SCRIPTS by hand, whine whine what a pain
[08:45] <maco> sprung: and interviewing with google is relevant to patience on irc....how?
[08:45] <znull> StuartPB : test -d ^^
[08:46] <chengjiangtao> 你好
[08:46] <sprung> maco, what is patience when a server must be up or the company is going tits up?
[08:46] <maco> sprung: yeah again with the language that's not allowed in here...
[08:46] <sprung> that's an expression, i hope you don't find it too offensive
[08:46] <maco> !cn | chengjiangtao
[08:46] <sprung> oh look
[08:46] <sprung> maco, look if you just want me gone kick me
[08:47] <Benkinooby> woha
[08:47] <maco> sprung: im thinking about it
[08:47] <sprung> just what level of PC should i be
[08:47] <greezmunkey> nice...
[08:47] <sprung> is "shut up" ok to say or is that obscene?
[08:47] <elleryss> lol
[08:47] <sprung> my baptist parents say thats a bad word to my 10 year old adopted sister
[08:47] <maco> sprung: well that'd be rather rude and so not very inline with channel guidelines
[08:47] <sprung> so is "shut up" a bad word?
[08:47] <sprung> i need to know which words i can and can't say
[08:47] <elleryss> lol
[08:47] <maco> it's two words, either of which are bad on their own, but it is a rude expression
[08:48] <sprung> otherwise you're writing a blank check on power here
[08:48] <maco> *neither
[08:48] <Benkinooby> hom, not sure about up ^^ :P
[08:48] <petan> !offtopic
[08:48] <maco> !guidelines | sprung how about you just read this
[08:49] <elleryss> lol
[08:49] <Benkinooby> what about "shut down"... that is bad for sure hahahaha
[08:49] <Benkinooby> scnr
[08:49] <manowar> hi to all!
[08:49] <StuartPB> is there anything I can do so I don't have to enter my password constantly
[08:49] <brenges> cuk
[08:49] <greezmunkey> StuartPB: sudo -i
[08:49] <maco> StuartPB: it shouldnt be constant. there's a 15 minute timeout on sudo
[08:49] <StuartPB> like increase the timeout from 15 minutes to 3 years
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> StuartPB:  I tend to get the system configed.. then rarely need to enter the paswword..  You can get a root 'shell' via the sudo -i, if thats what you want.
[08:50] <Benkinooby> StuartPB, do you mean log in or working with sudo?
[08:50] <StuartPB> working with sudo and gksu and whatever the keyring os for my launchpad ssh key and my wireless
[08:50] <sprung> maco, i have just read the Guidelines and the Code of Conduct and it says nothing about specific words which may and may not be used, only a general manner of whether they are used pejoratively or not.
[08:51] <maco> StuartPB: when you login, the keyring should unlock automatically
[08:51] <sprung> no words i have said are used pejoratively against other users in this channel.
[08:51] <maco> sprung: right, which is why i refused to answer whether "shut up" was itself a bad word
[08:51] <Benkinooby> sprung, as soon as some1 is offended, it's not allowed
[08:51] <sprung> therefore i have committed no offense in this channel
[08:51] <maco> (or words, as the case may be)
[08:51] <sprung> i wasn't telling you to shut up
[08:51] <maco> sprung: which is why i didnt remove you when you asked!
[08:52] <greezmunkey> sprung: please just drop the attitude, it is counter productive. Thank you.
[08:52] <maco> sprung: however if you /were/ being rude and dismissive toward folks, that /would/ be a guidelines violation
[08:52] <sprung> it was a question to put your actions to 'ad absurdium' because i consider 'shut up' silly to call a bad word and you have said every single thing that could possibly be construed as naught an offense to you
[08:52] <StuartPB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/531082/ what's up with this
[08:52] <sprung> *naughty
[08:52] <maco> sprung: the issue with language earlier was the bit about "keep the channel family-friendly"  -- as a starting list, the 7 Dirty Words are a good guide for what's blacklisted
[08:53] <quiescens> moo moo
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> quiescens:  i find that offensive...
[08:53] <maco> sprung: you *did* use a word on that list, and you attempted to obfuscate another word on it before that
[08:53] <sprung> maco, like i said before, if you want to get rid of me just ban me. the whole 'shut up' thing was an attempted parody on your taking abhorrence at every possible naughty thing i type, even though your rules and guidelines have absolutely no naughtiness or bad words clause whatsoever
[08:53] <quiescens> StuartPB: it means some bit of python code is trying to import from a module called controller, which it can't find
[08:53] <bullgard4> Why does Maverick store a socket »gnome-session« in /tmp/.ICE-unix?
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> Now back to trying to get burg working..  It works. but no eyecandy them.
[08:54] <petan> bullgard4: that is normal not just for maverick
[08:54] <maco> sprung: this channel DOES have a family-friendly rule. that includes no naughty words. Period.
[08:54] <sprung> maco, there is no "list"
[08:54] <maco> !language | sprung, please *actually read* what it is the bot is saying
[08:54] <sprung> i looked at your guidelines there's no list of bad words
[08:54] <sprung> at all
[08:55] <maco> sprung: because we could not possibly list them all
[08:55] <sprung> i could
[08:55] <maco> sprung: the phrase "family friendly" that the bot uses should be enough for a reasonable person to figure out
[08:55] <greezmunkey> This is off topic, you both know that.
[08:55] <sprung> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct
[08:55] <sprung> this is the code of conduct.
[08:55] <maco> sprung: if you want to debate our rules do it in #ubuntu-ops, but they won't change
[08:56] <sprung> i'm sorry that discussing it in here embarrasses you
[08:56] <maco> sprung: greezmunkey is correct that it is offtopic, and being offtopic here is ALSO against the rules
[08:56] <StuartPB> so can you guys take it to #dispute or #offended or whatever
[08:56] <maco> so either give tech support, or just drop it
[08:56] <siji> hey
[08:56] <sprung> discussing offtopic nuances is offtopic please stop discussing it
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> !attitude
[08:57] <sprung> entirely unnecessary
[08:57] <bullgard4> petan: Does gnome-session have to exchange some data with other clients through that socket?
[08:57] <maco> sprung: next time you will be automatically redirected to the channel where it is on topic
[08:57] <siji> anybody can help me out to configure my  accer T231H  multitouch monitor with 10.10
[08:57] <greezmunkey> Sorry to call you to the carpet on being off topic maco - but you got the point. THanks.
[08:57] <Dr_Willis>  Now who has an actual support issue?
[08:57] <petan> bullgard4: I suppose so
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> !multituch
[08:57] <sprung> maco, then you win. i hope it feels good.
[08:58] <petan> bullgard4: do you have some problem with that socket
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> !multitouch
[08:58] <siji> Dr_Willis, yes
[08:58] <StuartPB> quiescens: where would I find this module? this is in the larch installation script
[08:58] <bullgard4> petan: Thank you for answering. I sometimes have problems with GNOME.
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> siji:  i was thinking that was to be a new feature in 10.10. but i imagine its a work in progress.. ive never even had a multituch devuce to test it with.
[08:58] <maco> greezmunkey: it's fine. better to have someone /else/ pointing out the offtopicness, though somehow the other person still managed to attempt to pretend its me trying to hide something
[08:58] <petan> bullgard4: what exactly
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> siji:  theres proberly some forum/wiki pages that discuss it. and may have hints for specific devices.
[08:59] <sprung> maco, please stop talking about it i am trying to get support here
[08:59] <greezmunkey> silly, now back to business :)
[08:59] <siji> Dr_Willis, I have saw some demo videos on it
[08:59] <siji> Which is running on dell , with Unity
[08:59] <siji> Dell netbook
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> siji:  thats a good sign then i guess. :)  Cutting edge stuff often is a little rough.
[09:00] <siji> ya, am having my own program which is written in clutter
[09:00] <siji> So need to test it
[09:00] <researcher1> hos can I download ubuntu desktop on a Ubuntu server
[09:00] <przemek_> hi. how to apply diff.gz to to the source form package?
[09:00] <siji> Dr_Willis, Also I guess unity is having all those features
[09:00] <maco> sprung: really? i thought you were just ranting about how much better #bash is than #mysql
[09:00] <maco> researcher1: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:00] <sprung> maco, that is a blatant troll
[09:00] <StuartPB> researcher1: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:00] <researcher1> maco: thanks
[09:01] <maco> przemek_: you have the .dsc as well?
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> siji:  yae. and Unity is VERY much a work in progress.   Im not sure if the feature is part of unity , or handled by some underlaying service.
[09:01] <varsha_jk> hi, I need some help. I am using Sony Vaio NW series laptop with Ubuntu 10.04 installed on it. Whenever I am using RecordMyDesktop, it gives distorted image and video. Please help. I need it for making some video tutorials for the FOSS festival in my college.
[09:01] <przemek_> maco yes
[09:01] <sprung> maco, why are you attempting to troll me? this is a support channel, please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic where nobody cares
[09:01] <maco> przemek_: dpkg-source -x *.dsc
[09:01] <researcher1> StuartPB Thanks
[09:01] <siji> Dr_Willis, ok
[09:01] <StuartPB> researcher1: np even though maco beat me to it
[09:02] <sprung> maco, nice try, though: FAIL.
[09:02] <maco> sprung: i'm not. all i have seen you do is rant about other channels to Nikkk and then argue with me when i told you your language was impermissable
[09:02] <siji> Dr_Willis, wild guess it's clutter i think
[09:02] <researcher1> :-D
[09:02] <StuartPB> maco, sprung, keep it to a whisper session
[09:02] <sprung> maco, uh huh. Troll, everything you are typing is for the intention of me "acting up again" so i get banned. leave me alone.
[09:02] <researcher1> :-D :-D :-D :-D
[09:03] <przemek_> maco greate thanks, damn hard to find anywhere what to do with those files
[09:03] <Benkinooby> sprung, let's get back to your chess problem, should we?
[09:03] <varsha_jk> any help, please?
[09:03] <greezmunkey> "/ignore" works pretty good too.
[09:03] <sprung> Benkinooby, yes, what's a good linux chess trainer?
[09:03] <sprung> for a 10 year old
[09:04] <StuartPB> sprung, you said you were using chess, what about gchess
[09:04] <elky> sprung, you've been muted. when you feel like you can be a civil participant, let me know in #ubuntu-ops and i'll consider letting you talk here again.
[09:05] <Benkinooby> sprung, use phalanx in combination with xboard
[09:05] <Benkinooby> elky, thx
[09:06] <quiescens> StuartPB: i don't know, to my knowledge controller isn't a standard python module so i don't know where its supposed to be from
[09:06] <bursihido> how to open .sql file
[09:06] <petan> bursihido: use gedit for instance
[09:06] <petan> bursihido: it is text file or should be
[09:07] <bursihido> petan: okay
[09:07] <bursihido> petan: thanks
[09:08] <Benkinooby> sprung, http://freshmeat.net/projects/chesstraining/
[09:08] <petan> bursihido: for executing it on sql server you will have to put the content of the file as query
[09:08] <StuartPB> how can I set up a script so I don't have to sudo it for it to be able to access port 80
[09:08] <bursihido> petan: yes i got it :)
[09:08] <alkisg> StuartPB: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[09:08] <petan> StuartPB: access like listen on it?
[09:09] <StuartPB> petan: acess like serve from it
[09:09] <LOGANE> SALUT
[09:09] <petan> StuartPB: you should not have to run it as root, anyway you can set owner id exec bit
[09:10] <alkisg> suid doesn't work on scripts
[09:10] <petan> StuartPB: that will run script as root everytime
[09:10] <DiogenesW> servus
[09:11] <adrie> servus
[09:11] <jean> bonjour
[09:11] <quiescens> i wouldn't recommend telling people to make something suid root when its not designed for it
[09:11] <quiescens> shrugs
[09:11] <DiogenesW> adrie jean do you have any idea why my monitor settings won't bve kept by ubuntu?
[09:12] <varsha_jk> can anyone please help me out with my problem?
[09:12] <DiogenesW> i have to reajust them any time i switch on
[09:12] <joel291> hey is anyone here using suspend to ram on an atom330 D945GCLF2 mobo?
[09:12] <joel291> sucessfully?
[09:12] <petan> DiogenesW: do you have proper driver installed
[09:12] <intick> hi guys i'm having a print print probelm
[09:13] <petan> DiogenesW: linux usually automatically choose best resolution
[09:13] <joel291> the box suspends fine, but doesnt resume
[09:13] <intick> with my lexmar Z706 >>>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/531091/
[09:13] <joel291> it powers up on a key hit or wake on lan packet
[09:13] <joel291> but doesnt respond
[09:13] <joel291> any ideas?
[09:13] <intick> P706 sry
[09:14] <intick> driver installed succesfully but print jobs does't work ..
[09:14] <intick> printer detected with no problem
[09:15] <DiogenesW> petan how can i determine if the proper driver is isntzalled?
[09:15] <varsha_jk>  /msg NickServ identify kuchulukutty
[09:15] <petan> what card u have?
[09:15] <DiogenesW> varsha_jk do this in the server channel only, and now change the password :)
[09:15] <DiogenesW> it's a geforce 6400
[09:16] <varsha_jk> DiogenesW: sorry, wrong tab
[09:16] <DiogenesW> ok, varsha_jk
[09:17] <petan> DiogenesW: do you have proprietary?
[09:17] <petan> DiogenesW: from nvidia
[09:17] <DiogenesW> i don'T think i have
[09:17] <DiogenesW> hm. seems i don't have a proper driver, do i?
[09:17] <petan> DiogenesW: ok if you open /etc/X11/xorg.conf check the driver line
[09:17] <petan> DiogenesW: what is there
[09:18] <varsha_jk> DiogenesW: having some problems with Recordmydesktop, if you could help, or direct me to anyone who could help.
[09:19] <DiogenesW> petan there is no xorg.conf
[09:19] <alkisg> DiogenesW: you 're probably using nouveau, this will tell you the driver in use: lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA
[09:19] <petan> DiogenesW: any conf
[09:19] <intick> please  help !!
[09:19] <DiogenesW> Xwrapper.config?
[09:19] <petan> intick: with?
[09:19] <intick> printing problem with my lexmar Z706 >>>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/531091/
[09:19] <petan> DiogenesW: no
[09:20] <DiogenesW> petan intick's command yielded ...
[09:20] <DiogenesW> 04:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM)] [10de:0161] (rev a1)
[09:20] <DiogenesW>         Kernel driver in use: nouveau
[09:20] <DiogenesW>         Kernel modules: nouveau, nvidiafb
[09:21] <DiogenesW> sorry alkisg'S command
[09:21] <intick> DiogenesW: what ?
[09:21] <alkisg> DiogenesW: when you login, doesn't the setting you specified come back?
[09:21] <DiogenesW> intick sorry, mistake on my side
[09:21] <DiogenesW> alkisg no, they don't
[09:21] <intick> DiogenesW: k any idea for my printer :(
[09:21] <alkisg> DiogenesW: ls ~/.config/monitors.xml ==> is that file there?
[09:22] <petan> I think that you are missing xorg.conf may be related
[09:22] <alkisg> petan: recent ubuntu releases by default have no xorg.conf
[09:22] <quiescens> by default there is no xorg.conf
[09:22] <petan> alkisg: ok
[09:22] <petan> alkisg: where is it then
[09:22] <DiogenesW> alkisg no, there's no such file
[09:22] <alkisg> petan: there is none, the driver & settings to be used is autodetected
[09:23] <alkisg> DiogenesW: is that gnome? or kde?
[09:23] <DiogenesW> it's kde
[09:23] <quiescens> /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it does not use it unless it exists
[09:23] <petan> alkisg: that is quite unwise isn't what if you need to enforce something
[09:23] <petan> alkisg: autodetection can fail
[09:23] <alkisg> DiogenesW: ah, no idea then. You can still make a xorg.conf where you specify the desired resolution, or you can make a startup script that uses xrandr to specify the resolution
[09:23] <quiescens> if you need to have one, then you make one and it will use it
[09:23] <smooth_penguin> hey, anyone here using suspend to ram on an atom 330 D945GCLF2 motherboard?
[09:23] <alkisg> petan: the users can create a xorg.conf if they wish
[09:24] <DiogenesW> xrandr ...
[09:25] <CRU_> Need Help if anyone is willing!!! Ubuntu continually crashes (X server, back to log in screen but not total restart), even with everything closed and computer just sitting.  How do I find out what's going on?
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> CRU_:  for starters. whats the video card?
[09:25] <CRU_> geforce 210
[09:26] <technikfreak> hello otgehter i have a problem with thunderbird for like a little itme i twouldn#t opened correclty the menu bar isnt shwoing anymore
[09:26] <CRU_> was working fine yesterday but today it is resetting a lot
[09:26] <petan> CRU_: what is the X error
[09:26] <petan> CRU_: it should say sth
[09:26] <CRU_> petan: how do i check the error (noob to ubuntu)
[09:26] <petan> CRU_: if xserver crashes blue screen with options appear
[09:27] <petan> CRU_: there is show log last entry is crashreport
[09:27] <CRU_> petan: maybe not my error then.  my screen goes black, then login screen appears again
[09:27] <alkisg> DiogenesW: you may want to ask in #kubuntu about why it doesn't apply the settings at logon
[09:28] <mfaroukg> i am trying to recover the booting but i am failing, how can i recover my windows and ubuntu booting?
[09:28] <petan> CRU_: look in /var/log there are xorg logs do you error there?
[09:28] <alkisg> mfaroukg: what is the message you're getting?
[09:28] <petan> CRU_: maybe just your gnome crash
[09:28] <jeffmr_> isn't there a kde channel on freenode?
[09:28] <greezmunkey> CRU_: look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:30] <mfaroukg>  alkisg, no system disk message and nothing else till i boot with the bindrive ubuntu
[09:30] <alkisg> mfaroukg: that sounds like a hardware problem. Check your disk and cables?
[09:30] <alkisg> Did it work before?
[09:30] <mfaroukg>  alkisg, i tried the testdisk and i can see the partitions
[09:31] <alkisg> mfaroukg: how was the booting "broken"?
[09:31] <petan> mfaroukg: try to renew your grub settings
[09:31] <CRU_> petan, greezmunkey: in var/log/Xorg.org I have this line a few times: 1551.385...No input driver/identifier specified Iignoring and previous line is HID mouse (ir remote with mouse)
[09:31] <petan> mfaroukg: grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[09:32] <mfaroukg>  alkisg, i was trying to install the ubuntu 10.10 and it wrote in the windows boot sector
[09:32] <petan> CRU_: that is not the problem, anything else
[09:32] <alkisg> mfaroukg: so ubuntu was never properly installed & running on that disk?
[09:32] <mfaroukg> petan, can i do i using the try cd?
[09:32] <CRU_> petan: anything specifically i should look for or search...ERROR word or something?
[09:33] <petan> mfaroukg: if it boot your system
[09:33] <boxbeatsy> hi all, is there an easy way to move an exact image of my hard drive over to a new computer, when both are dual booting with windows xp?
[09:33] <mfaroukg> petan, it does of course
[09:33] <petan> mfaroukg: then yes
[09:33] <greezmunkey> CRU_: paste the contents to http://paste.ubuntu.com, then paste the url back here so we can take a look.
[09:33] <mfaroukg> petan, i will try it now
[09:33] <adrianisv> a
[09:33] <petan> mfaroukg: backup old grub.cfg
[09:34] <petan> CRU_: if it is too big you can strip part with different time then time close to crash
[09:34] <CRU_> greezmunkey: will do. it just did it again this minute (2:34am my time)
[09:35] <petan> mfaroukg: *than sure
[09:35] <petan> mfaroukg: ignore that
[09:35] <mfaroukg> petan, shall i backup /
[09:35] <petan> mfaroukg: no
[09:35] <petan> mfaroukg: just /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[09:35] <mfaroukg> petan, Okay
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> boxbeatsy:  you wanting to move the windows OS? or just a lot of data? or an exact clone of 2 hard drives?
[09:36] <jeffmr_> if you run apt-get update and upgrade how much will that update your system if a new .x release is released?
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> boxbeatsy:  are the 2 hd's the same size? :)
[09:36] <boxbeatsy> Dr_Willis: they're nto the same size.  i only want to copy the linux partition on my original computer to the new one
[09:36] <boxbeatsy> *not
[09:36] <mfaroukg> petan, will it recover my windows boot too?
[09:36] <petan> mfaroukg: maybe
[09:36] <quiescens> jeffmr_: apt-get update, apt-get upgrade will keep your current release and continue to download only security/bugfix updates
[09:37] <petan> mfaroukg: you must prefix command with sudo
[09:37] <mfaroukg> petan, sure
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> boxbeatsy:  one way would be to use 'fsarchiver' and some sort of network share/ssh/nfs/
[09:37] <CRU_> greezmunkey, petan: ok, here's my xorg file: paste.ubuntu.com/531101/
[09:37] <mfaroukg> petan, i was trying the fixmbr
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> boxbeatsy:  but i think fstachiver tends to archive to one place, then restores. so it would be a 2 step process
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> boxbeatsy:  how big is the linux part of the HD?
[09:37] <petan> mfaroukg: if it break your win loader you will need to use win install cd to fix it
[09:38] <alkisg> mfaroukg: does ubuntu from your hard disk boot now? or are you with a live cd?
[09:38] <boxbeatsy> Dr_Willis: i see, it's 60 GB on the old one, and 120GB ont he new one
[09:38] <jeffmr_> quiescens, is there a way to update other things on your system?
[09:38] <das_grosse_W> hi. i need some help with the catalyst settings. i change the scaling properties to "keep aspect ratio" for lower resolutions, but everytime i restart the settings are gone. How can i set it permanently?
[09:38] <intick> is there a command to search inside an archive  without exctracting file ?
[09:38] <mfaroukg> alkisg, not from HDD it works from the USB for now
[09:38] <quiescens> jeffmr_: if you want to upgrade from one release to another, there are some basic instructions at http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[09:39] <boxbeatsy> Dr_Willis: when using fsarchiver, what folders in the root system do i have to copy over to have an exact image of my hd?
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> boxbeatsy:  fsarchiver will only copy the actual data over. so if its 60gb thats 1/2 wempty - it will only have tomove 30gb or som.
[09:39] <intick> i know it's possible by browsing the archive with an explorer but i look for a command
[09:39] <alkisg> mfaroukg: did ubuntu ever boot from your hard disk? or was the installation unsuccesful?
[09:39] <mfaroukg> petan, now i will run the command on the other machine  sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[09:39] <DuckMaestro> weird issue.... just booted into 10.10 on mac mini. see the login screen with my username, but mouse and keyboard are not responsive. keyboard was perfectly fine during install. also, i know its not locked up because i can tap the power button, and i see a prompt about 60 sec till shutdown.   thoughts?
[09:39] <petan> mfaroukg: what machine
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> boxbeatsy:  i think the fsarchiver docs mention the proper ways to do a clone of one system to another. Ive never done it that way.
[09:39] <mfaroukg> alkisg, yes
[09:39] <alkisg> mfaroukg: that will modify your usb stick, not your hard disk
[09:40] <alkisg> mfaroukg: yes on what? "unsucessful"?
[09:40] <mfaroukg> petan, i meant the laptop which having the problem
[09:40] <boxbeatsy> Dr_Willis: i see.  ok.  i think i can figure it out from here.  thank yoU!
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> boxbeatsy:  personally i would just insall to the new pc. and copy ver the home and /etc/ dirs.. then use the !clone factoid info to reinstall the packages.
[09:40] <quiescens> jeffmr_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for more specific instructions
[09:40] <petan> mfaroukg: do you boot system from harddrive?
[09:40] <boxbeatsy> Dr_Willis: Hmmm yea that may be easier
[09:40] <mfaroukg> alkisg, yes it worked before on ubuntu, now i am using the USB to boot the laptop
[09:40] <meegomi> hello how to use wayland in ubuntu?
[09:40] <alkisg> mfaroukg: ok, then you need to follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling from LiveCD
[09:41] <jeffmr_> thanks
[09:41] <greezmunkey> CRU_: nothing notable in there, let me check something else.
[09:41] <alkisg> mfaroukg: it's also valid if you boot from a usb stick, like you do now.
[09:42] <CRU_> greezmunkey: thanks so much for trying to help me...I'm at a total loss of what's happening so i really appreciate it.  Let me know if you want to see any other logs
[09:42] <aurilliance> If I have an x term open, but it's scrolled past the 1000 line cutoff, or whatever the cutoff is, is there any way to get the commands that were previously displayed back??
[09:42] <greezmunkey> CRU_: paste /var/log/kern.log please.
[09:42] <aurilliance> I'm trying to remember exactly what I ded so I can write it down
[09:42] <bullgard4> How much disk space takes a Query in OO.o Base 3.2.1?
[09:43] <mfaroukg> alkisg, i will use the way that paten advised
[09:43] <petan> greezmunkey, CRU_ suggestion, I think it is gnome what ends session not xserver
[09:43] <alkisg> mfaroukg: ask petan again for that, but he thought you booted from your hard disk, so his advice wasn't valid
[09:44] <greezmunkey> petan: you are probably right, but I honestly don't know how to troubleshoot that. Do you?
[09:44] <petan> mfaroukg: indeed, if you now booted from usb follow the manual form alkisg it should work
[09:44] <mfaroukg> petan, okay no problem
[09:44] <intick> how do i install a shared librarie ?
[09:45] <CRU_> greezmunkey: paste.ubuntu.com/531107/       I just copied from 2:18 to now...minutes 2:34 and 2:37 were right around the two crashes I had.
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> intick:  which library? is it in the repos?
[09:45] <sangeeth> I had used sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to install kubuntu desktop also to my ubuntu 10.10... I need to uninstall it... What to do?..
[09:45] <CRU_> petan: is there a recommendation if it is the gnome on what to potentially do?
[09:45] <petan> CRU_: try different environment if it will be stable problem is in gnome
[09:45] <WilliamHerry> some body help me, every time i install or remove package, will case fcitx exit, i want to know why this happens, (fcitx is a free chinese input toy for x
[09:45] <intick> Dr_Willis: no i've downloaded it it's needed for my printer
[09:45] <maco> !puregnome | sangeeth
[09:45] <intick> Dr_Willis: libstdc++.so.5.0.7
[09:46] <petan> CRU_: you can try gnome-safe too
[09:46] <CRU_> petan: you mean on login switch sessions?
[09:46] <petan> CRU_: choose another there
[09:46] <Benkinooby> some1 how is familiar with playing vids via mplayer and framebuffer? how  can i set the colormoade to RGB. at the moment it is YV12 or so and looks really retro
[09:46] <Dr_Willis> !find libstdc++.so
[09:46] <intick> thx !
[09:46] <intick> doctor !
[09:46] <Dr_Willis> intick:  so its more of you needing a specific Version of the lib? ie: an OLDER version?
[09:46] <petan> mfaroukg: don't forget to chroot to your hdd before performing it
[09:47] <Dr_Willis> intick:  there seems to be a  libstdc++5 packages in the repos. install them perhaps.
[09:47] <DiogenesW> i'll be back ...
[09:47] <petan> CRU_: or try gnome-safe
[09:47] <alkisg> petan: chroot isn't needed, --root-directory tells grub where its binaries are
[09:47] <intick> Dr_Willis: i need this versino exactely libstdc++.so.5 as it's shown in this past bin (Ctrl + F search for libstdc++.so.5)
[09:47] <intick> Dr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/531091/
[09:47] <mfaroukg> petan, i am still reading, what does chroot do?
[09:48] <petan> alkisg: but it could help to determine all drives and kernels
[09:48] <Dr_Willis> intick:  no idea on doing specific versions. I rarely compile stff or have that issue.
[09:48] <petan> mfaroukg: it will change / to your hdd's root
[09:48] <petan> mfaroukg: do all commands in correct order
[09:49] <alkisg> mfaroukg: read the instructions (4) and (5) on the wiki page that say: sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt and sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sdX
[09:49] <alkisg> Those 2 commands should be enough
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> Anyone else notice that Printing sites. In firefox. ioften does NOT print properly? Seen any good extensions/tricks to get sites to print better? Having to print out some web site catalog pages. for Insurance claims. And thers too much info missing on the printouts.
[09:49] <intick> Dr_Willis: ok :/
[09:49] <CRU_> petan: if it does work under a different session...what does that mean for the session I was in (i.e. I have mythbuntu installed and switched to XFCE log in)
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> intick:  so you have a precompiled binary version of an app. that DEMANDS a specifc libstdc++ version?
[09:50] <mfaroukg> alkisg, i think i should install the grub again using the aptitude install grub-pc
[09:51]  * dreamtraveler geia (means hi)
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> mfaroukg:  if you want to reconfifgure grub. theres also 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc'
[09:51] <alkisg> mfaroukg: well... I can't help if you won't listen... you can continue trying stuff or you can just follow the wiki. That's all from me :)
[09:51] <quiescens> contrary to popular belief, just doing "apt-get install" on a package that's already installed will usually do nothing at all
[09:51] <quiescens> lol
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> quiescens:  thats windows 'training' :)
[09:52] <petan> CRU_: then problem is in the environment try to switch to another user maybe it is in your home settings
[09:52] <mfaroukg> alkisg, don't worry i don't like to try many stuff, i just read the guide
[09:52] <DiogenesW> thanks, petan alkisg for your help. usung xrandr in an autostart-script works just fine
[09:52] <alkisg> mfaroukg: installing grub on the usb stick won't help you though
[09:53] <Guest70928> Hi guys
[09:53] <intick> Dr_Willis: actually the lib i'm looking fr was included in another RMP package, which i converted and i'm trying to extract and install
[09:53] <mfaroukg> alkisg, is it on the usb now? :(
[09:53] <mfaroukg> alkisg, i need time to read to end
[09:53] <alkisg> mfaroukg: you booted from the usb stick, so any commands you run there are executed on the usb stick
[09:54] <petan> mfaroukg: can you tell what all you did from the commands in the article
[09:54] <alkisg> mfaroukg: focus on the 2 commands I said above, steps (4) and (5) on the wiki
[09:54] <PiousMinion> Will ubuntu run on a 16Mhz 386 cpu?
[09:54] <CRU_> petan: I recently editted init.d/local but changed it back to it's original and updated rc.d    Could that play into that (I switched environments and no crash yet)
[09:54] <intick> Dr_Willis: this lib seems to be needed for my printer http://paste.ubuntu.com/531091/ line 111
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> RMP package? whats an RMP intick ?
[09:55] <chengjiangtao_> r
[09:55] <intick> Dr_Willis: got one of there http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/13218328/dir/fedora_12/com/compat-libstdc++-33-3.2.3-68.i686.rpm.html
[09:55] <petan> CRU_: what if you backup and wipe your setting in home? u use gnome? then move all gnome stuff to backup and remove it
[09:55] <intick> Dr_Willis: this rmp contain the lib i need     compat-libstdc++-33-3.2.3-68.i686.rpm
[09:55] <chengjiangtao_> 发个中文的
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> intick: converting RPM to deb.. is not a very good idea..  that error line asks for   libstdc++.so.5  , i dont se eit wanting a specifi version.
[09:56] <rdw200169> !cn | chengjiangtao_
[09:56] <CRU_> petan: could I just create a new user and copy what I need over rather than wiping or you think I'll still have the same issue?
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> intick:  line 111 ->  Lexmark--Z700-P700-Series: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file:
[09:56] <PiousMinion> Can someone tell me if ubuntu 10.10 will run on my 16 mhz 386 cpu?
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> intick:  that libstec++5 package in the pacakge manager should have that file.  Using RPM packages converted. can cuse all sorts of problems.
[09:57] <petan> CRU_: yes don't copy anything just try if it will run ok
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> PiousMinion:  i would say.. not very likely.
[09:57] <intick> Dr_Willis: yes but it's the only one i found ... rmp contain this one exactely libstdc++.so.5.0.7
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> PiousMinion:  i think a 486+ is needed
[09:57] <petan> CRU_: make new account and login in to it, btw you use gnome?
[09:57] <PiousMinion> Dr_Willis: It will run on that?
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> intick:  you mean RPM, not rmp...... and  the pacakge manager has  the .so.5 version..
[09:57] <intick> Dr_Willis: ok i'll check, i dindt install anything so far
[09:57] <mfaroukg> petan, I didn't do any command yet
[09:58] <SpiritsInside> Can someone help me enable evolution to connect to yahoo imap free http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/yahoo_mail_free_imap
[09:58] <CRU_> petan: I dont know what you mean by gnome exactly...but I do have some gnome apps: gnome for deb files, gnome scheduler, etc
[09:58] <SpiritsInside> i dont want to pay 20 usd
[09:58] <PiousMinion> Dr_Willis: Why are all the ubuntu packages installed for the i386 cpu then?
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> intick:  and there are extra printer drivers in the Package manager that are not installed by default. Youmay want to checkt he forums and ubuntu printing pages/wiki for that printer
[09:58] <PiousMinion> s/installed/compiled
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> PiousMinion:  i386 means '32bit'
[09:58] <petan> mfaroukg: if you want to update grub try this http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[09:58] <greezmunkey> Man, the first PC I bought was a 486DX-2 with 8MB RAM, man that was a long time ago...
[09:58] <AceKing> Can someone tell me the easiest way to setup an FTP server so that I can share files with family? Everything I'm finding for FTP is either out dated or for trial software.
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> PiousMinion:  go try to isntall it and see.. I inatlled ubuntu on a Pent I - 100mhz once.. it took about 4 hrs...
[09:59] <petan> CRU_: I mean if you use gnome desktop
[09:59] <petan> CRU_: not all ubuntu versions have it, you said you have special version
[09:59] <intick> Dr_Willis: yes i folowed this tuto (in french) all seems to be installing correctely printer detected ect .. but when i print a job i get nothing
[09:59] <intick> Dr_Willis: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/lexmark_z705
[09:59] <PiousMinion> Dr_Willis: no it doesn't. x86 means 32bit. i386, i486, i58, and i686 are all very specific.
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> intick:  and how old is that turoial.
[09:59] <CRU_> petan: I just use mythbuntu (installed it from disc and haven't changed anything since then...built off of the lastest ubuntu)
[09:59] <intick> Dr_Willis: 2009
[10:00] <intick> Dr_Willis: :S
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> PiousMinion:  for the package names  - i386 mean its a 32bit package.. vs a 64bit package. or a 'arm' package.
[10:00] <petan> CRU_: ok try that
[10:00] <petan> CRU_: it won't harm your system so we can try it
[10:00] <CRU_> petan: try what?
[10:00] <petan> CRU_: make new user
[10:00] <petan> CRU_: and try login to it if it will be ok
[10:00] <CRU_> petan: oh, ok. gotchya.  will do.  under XFCE it hasn't had any crashes
[10:01] <maco> PiousMinion: in ubuntu, they're actually compiled to i686 standards but are still named i386 for hysterical raisins
[10:01] <PiousMinion> Dr_Willis: So what processor are the ubuntu packages optimized for if not i386?  e.g. what -march/-mtune= options were used for gcc?
[10:01] <PiousMinion> maco: so they do use i686?
[10:01] <intick> Dr_Willis:  cant find the lib in synaptic
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> intick:  the !find factoid found it earlier.
[10:01] <maco> PiousMinion: yes, as of 10.10 i believe (or maybe 10.04?  --- it used to be i586)
[10:02] <degantyll> maco, interesting
[10:02] <kuafu> you ren ma
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> intick:  -> libstdc++5 - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
[10:02] <PiousMinion> maco: thanks.  So you know of other distros do the same? (use one but name it i386)
[10:02] <PiousMinion> Do*
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> !info  libstdc++5
[10:02] <mfaroukg> alkisg,paten, i think i should reinstall the grub2 first because the laptop says no system disk and the grub menu not appearing, am I right?
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> PiousMinion:  on that old/low end a box. I will be suprised at any mondern disrto that will work. Try Pully Linux 'legacy' version perhaps.
[10:02] <maco> PiousMinion: i believe fedora names theirs i386. i rather doubt they actually still use such low optimisations, but you could ask in #fedora
[10:03] <maco> Dr_Willis: puppy, you mean?
[10:03] <petan> mfaroukg: follow article
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> maco:  yea thats it.. :)
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> I dont think Puppy will even run on that low end a box.
[10:03] <petan> mfaroukg: if you get to last step you can reinstall it
[10:03] <maco> PiousMinion: have you considered Linux From Scratch?
[10:04] <intick> Dr_Willis: http://front1.monsterup.com/upload/1289642620346.png
[10:04] <PiousMinion> maco: 386 questions were hypothetical. Was trying to understand what was actually used.
[10:04] <maco> PiousMinion: oh ok
[10:05] <PiousMinion> Was scratching head wondering why everyone used i386.
[10:05] <blasty_> Eh .. anyone have a clue where I can find the mount options for volumes that are not in my fstab?
[10:05] <blasty_> (eg. external disks that appear as an icon on the gnome desktop and which are mounted when double clicked)
[10:06] <maco> blasty_: the "mount" command?
[10:06] <blasty_> maco: not I meant more like the defaults that are being used when I do the double click thingie :)
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> PiousMinion:  its just a grandfathered in nameing scheme.. same as they call 64bit packages amd64. its not really amd specific
[10:06] <blasty_> I know how mount works, and I know which options I want to adjust
[10:06] <CRU_>  petan: heh, it's getting late and I think I am going to go to bed.  But thanks for this idea.  I will mess aroudn under the new account to see if it works fine.  any last thoughts for it?
[10:07] <CRU_> greezmunkey: Thanks for helping me, I htink I am going to go to bed.  Any last thoughts?
[10:07] <petan> CRU_: I think it is somewhere in gnome configuration
[10:07] <petan> CRU_: you will see
[10:07] <PiousMinion> Dr_Willis: I'm aware of the 32bit versions. What different 64bit optimizations are there?
[10:07] <greezmunkey> CRU_: Other than thinking that petan is on to something, no.
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> PiousMinion:  no idea. i rarely ever compuile stuff these days.
[10:08] <CRU_> petan, greezmunkey: ok, thanks guys.  night.
[10:08] <DuckMaestro> any idea why a usb keyboard would work fine during install but stop working at the login screen?
[10:08] <petan> CRU_: I got morning, but gn
[10:09] <lea123> what should I choose for the Bootloader ?? should it be installed on SDA or sda5,sda6 which is the partions for linux including the swap file area
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> DuckMaestro:  as a test. Unplug/Plug it back in. Ive seen others in here ask similer things.. and in a few cases..  they unplg/plugged it back in.. then it worked fine  after that.. (even after reboots , it like kicked it awake or somthing)
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> lea123:  in most cases /dev/sda
[10:09] <SpiritsInside> put sda
[10:09] <petan> lea123: depends on your needs, many users suggest sda but I don't like that option
[10:09] <DuckMaestro> Dr_Willis:  tried that already actually. and another reboot. and a different keyboard and port
[10:09] <frold> I may be asking in the wrong forum, but then please direct me to the one... I have a broken harddisk connected to a USB port. What software to use with ubuntu is able to recover the data and partition table on it? any tool you can recommand?
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> DuckMaestro:   Im out of ideas then.
[10:10] <DuckMaestro> Dr_Willis: thanks nevertheless
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> frold:  you can try 'ddrescue' or 'dd_rescue' to image it to a file. then try to recover data from that file.
[10:10] <lea123> I installed the ubuntu over Vista however it isn't showing up as an option to boot into there when i power on the machine VISTA just loads up... This was the result of me installing the GRUB on SDA5 where linux was to be installed...
[10:11] <petan> lea123: if you can use grub for all systems you can use sda if you have systems unbootable with grub choose your linux partition
[10:11] <frold> Dr_Willis, thanks I will give it a try :)
[10:12] <petan> lea123: I don't know where your gub is?
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> lea123:  yea. sda5 is proberly not where you want it.  If you had 2 hard drives.. you could put grub on sdb.. but it needs to be on the drive mbr. not on the partitions mbr normally
[10:12] <petan> lea123: use gparted and set sda5 bootable
[10:12] <Benkinooby> hi, i am doing ubuntu minimal install. during partitioning i set my /home and swap to be encrypted. later on, when i came to user configuration, i was asked again, if i want to encrypt my /home directory. what's the point in this?
[10:13] <Dr_Willis> You can even do a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' and tell grub to go on sda. and any usb flash drive you got plugged in. :) that way you can have a rescue flashd rive that should boot the system.
[10:14] <v_> Hey guys! So I'm currently setting up my grandfathers' laptop; he's an Ubuntu user and he loves it. The only problem right now is that one of the more recent kernels stopped his USB 3G dongle from working... I've found a fix for it myself, namely "sudo rmmod usb-storage" twice a second until it runs twice with no error, then "sudo modprobe usbserial vendor=0x12d1 product=0x1003" once and it all works.
[10:14] <Dr_Willis> Benkinooby:  one is for an encrypted home PARTITION i imagine.. the other is for the users to have their own encrypted HOME. (to protect from other users perhaps?)
[10:14] <v_> I tried to automate this through adding a rule in /etc/modprobe.d;   install usb-storage ret=`/usr/sbin/lsusb | /bin/grep -c "12d1:1003"`; if [ $ret -gt 0 ];then /sbin/modprobe usbserial vendor=0x12d1 product=0x1003; else /sbin/modprobe --ignore-installl usb-storage $CMDLINE_OPTS; fi
[10:15] <v_> though somehow this doesn't work as it should. While the modem does get mounted as /dev/ttyUSB0 as it should, it doesn't appear in networkmanager.
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> v_:  you could blacklist that usb-storage module, then do the commands to fix it from rc.local perhaps.
[10:15] <Benkinooby> Dr_Willis, ah, i forgot that also other users share the /home partition :P what you say is quite plausible. so now, my home floder is double encrypted Oo
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> v_:  thats odd you are running the rmmod twice in a row.
[10:15] <SpiritsInside> Can someone help me enable evolution to send "ID ("GUID" "1")" command to IMAP before logging in? what command do i need to put?
[10:16] <v_> yeah, I need to keep running it... first time it unloads it from the kernel, then I connect the dongle, then I need to keep running it until it unloads it once more
[10:16] <lea123> petan: dr_Willis:   I have Vista loaded on C and D drive is free. I tried installing on this D drive which I saw as SD5 during installation and I installed the Linux bootloader on SD5. DR WILLIS are you saying I should have loaded it on SDA which is shown as the entire drive of 250GB.  The biggest worry is I don't want anything to be written on the hidden partition which is where my hidden...
[10:16] <lea123> ...recovery files are :
[10:16] <v_> the 3g dongle appears as three usb devices simultaneously; one flashdrive, one CDFS cdrom emulator, and finally he modem itself
[10:16] <Guest36766> Hey guys, ive got a weird bug in ubuntu 10.10
[10:17] <Guest36766> when i open vlc media player, ubuntu logs out
[10:17] <v_> Dr_Willis: I was hoping I'd be able to unload it only when the 3g dongle is connected, so that regular usb sticks would still work, hence my grep of lsusb to see whether the modem is connected
[10:17] <Guest36766> it seems to wait until i move my mouse across it
[10:17] <petan> lea123: make d: bootable
[10:17] <Guest36766> and i dont have move over to focus
[10:17] <v_> I know it's kind of a hack, but I need to have this completely automated by the time I leave tomorrow
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> v_:  you can load the module again by hand after a delay perhaps
[10:18] <petan> lea123: or sda5 with gparted
[10:18] <v_> the user of this computer is 80 years old, I don't want to make him do terminal stuff just to get online :|
[10:18] <lea123> petan: dr_Willis: I don't see my D drive any longer but in the DISK MANAGER it doesn't show as an ext3 file. Could I assume the installation was complete and only the Grub is pending
[10:18] <petan> lea123: try live cd and gparted
[10:19] <lea123> petan: I make use of the installer to do my partition... Isn't that OK
[10:19] <ironm> Good morning - I hope you can give some hints how to set an HP LaserJet 1320n for network printing from the command line (without using cupsd ... only cups-client or just another one ... )
[10:19] <petan> lea123: installer probably "forgot" to update sda5 boot flag
[10:19] <petan> lea123: that happens
[10:19] <ironm>  I have set the IP-address and can see the printer on the network - http://paste.debian.net/99687
[10:20] <lea123> petan: FORGOT ??
[10:20] <petan> lea123: if you have more systems it is hard to determine what is correct
[10:20] <ironm>  I can print .ps ile usind netcat .. like: cat test-page.ps | nc <IP_ADDRESS> 9100
[10:20] <ironm> .ps file ..
[10:20] <lea123> petan: Dr_Willis say the bootloader needs to be on the SDA which represents the unpartioned HDD
[10:20] <Guest18960> can anybody tell my a right way to configure my HDD when installing ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[10:21] <ironm> and it works .. however when I try to use "lp" commands many pages will be printed with an ipp header on the first page
[10:21] <petan> lea123: no it does not need to be there, but it can be
[10:21] <v_> I'll keep trying for a bit, will have to reboot... I'll be back later
[10:21] <lea123> Guest18960: I am on that issue
[10:21] <mastertheknife> lea123: sda represents the whole HDD, not the unpartitoned spaces in it
[10:21] <dave3333> hey guys. when i start vlc media player, ubuntu 10.10 logs me out
[10:21] <lea123> Guest18960: But on 10.10
[10:21] <Guest18960> i need to know which partition should be primary - boot, swap, /, home, and which logical
[10:21] <petan> lea123: try to boot live cd then do what I suggested
[10:21] <v_> -exit
[10:22] <mastertheknife> Guest18960: it doesn't really matter, but /boot must be primary.
[10:22] <mastertheknife> Guest18960: The MBR is small and can only store 4 primary partitions, this is why "logical" partitions were invented, its a workaround against the 4 partitions limitation
[10:22] <petan> lea123: or you can use disk manager in windows but I prefer gparted
[10:23] <mastertheknife> Guest18960: On my install, i have /boot primary, swap primary, root and home all primary (exactly 4 partitions)
[10:24] <dave3333> can anyone help with my vlc problem
[10:24] <intick> Dr_Willis: IT WORKS !
[10:24] <mastertheknife> Guest18960: The GPT is going to replace the MBR sometimes in the future, it should be able to store between 64-128 partitions, all primary, no need for this logical workaround anymore
[10:24] <petan> lea123: I have to go, if you get in troubles ask in channel
[10:25] <intick> Dr_Willis: just copied the LIB from the RPM package and pasted them on /LIB then i tested to print = it works !
[10:25] <lea123> petan: sure take care
[10:25] <mastertheknife> dave3333: strange problem, have you tried checking the system log and vlc log if it has a one?
[10:25] <Guest18960> ok I wil put all partitions in primary mode
[10:25] <petan> lea123: anyway grub in sda5 can work with no troubles
[10:25] <dave3333> where do i find the system log?
[10:26] <mastertheknife> dave3333: sudo tail -n100 /var/log/messages
[10:26] <dave3333> where would i find vlc log?
[10:26] <lea123> petan: It didn't work and I have the trouble of belieing it forgot :)
[10:26] <petan> lea123: boot flag is not on sda5 that is problem your bios does not load grub that is why it doesn not work
[10:27] <petan> lea123: if you set sda5 bootable it will load grub next reboot
[10:27] <lea123> petan: thats what I need to figure out however I am overly cautious of my hidden partion of 1.6GB to not get overwritten
[10:27] <Karen_m> maverick runs so bad on my laptop, the wireless kicks out, the numerous problems I have...  I wish I never upgraded from 10.04
[10:28] <bukem> how can i format the drive that ubuntu is on?
[10:28] <petan> lea123: by changing boot flag you will not modify partitions, just mbr
[10:28] <jags> any programs to bind keyboard buttons to a 360 controller for ubuntu?
[10:28] <petan> lea123: your hidden partition will be same
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> jags:  i recall seeing some joy-key apps in the repos.
[10:29] <lea123> petan: SDA5 was the free disk area where the linux was asked to be installed and I did use sda5 as the bootloader as well
[10:29] <mastertheknife> lea123: The boot flag is stored in the MBR, which contains a table\array of 4 partition entries (4 primary partitions), your partition is unaffected
[10:29] <paddy_> bukem: you need a livecd and boot from that
[10:29] <petan> lea123: yes but your bios does not know boot loader is on sda5
[10:30] <petan> lea123: by setting sda5 bootable it will start using it
[10:30] <petan> lea123: now it start windows loader
[10:30] <mastertheknife> thats not entirely true
[10:30] <lea123> PETAN : mastertheknife says something different
[10:30] <lea123> i guess
[10:30] <petan> mastertheknife: what is not true
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> intick:  that lib should be in the repos.. Perhaps its in unuiverse or multiverse repos that you dont hage enabled.. but good luck.
[10:31] <mastertheknife> it all depends on the boot code that resides inside the MBR, the MBR is not just a partition table of 4 entries (4 primary partitions) but also contains around 400 bytes of boot code, the default code (ms-dos pretty much) just looks in the partition table for what partition has the boot flag, and boots that partition.
[10:32] <mastertheknife> Some boot loaders in the MBR like grub completely ignore the boot flag
[10:32] <intick> Dr_Willis: yes weird .. anyway thx for help ;)
[10:32] <petan> mastertheknife: why you think mbr of lea123 is different? mbr was created by windows
[10:32] <mastertheknife> what is he trying to do? make the 1.6GB partition bootable again?
[10:33] <petan> mastertheknife: but now it starts windows, that mean boot flag is for c: drive which it starts mbr of windows is MS-DOS and mbr of linux is usually dos too
[10:33] <lea123> mastertheknife: 1.6GB is the hidden recovery file partition
[10:33] <mastertheknife> in that case he will need to change the bootcode in the MBR (/FIXMBR in windows recovery console) and to set the boot flag for that partition, windows expects it
[10:33] <petan> mastertheknife: no just want to use grub for booting instead of windows loader
[10:33] <petan> mastertheknife: changeing sda5 to bootable would do the same
[10:33] <lea123> mastertheknife YES I saw in the wiki i need to fiddle with BCEEDIT
[10:34] <Chosi> why is it that i can't run .sh stuff in my terminal? i always get -bash: ./lammps.sh: No such file or directoy
[10:34] <Chosi> file is executable
[10:34] <bukem> paddy: thanks man
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> Chosi:  check the first line of the script.
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> Chosi:  it may be incorrect
[10:35] <Chosi> well it seems to be a binary
[10:35] <mastertheknife> petan: grub does that fine, just make sure to use the makeactive line or whatever its called, it gives the windows partition the boot flag, windows expects it for some reason
[10:35] <Chosi> cause it has ELF in the beginning
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> Chosi:  try 'file whatever' to see exactly what the file may be.
[10:36] <mastertheknife> the code that grub places in the MBR completely ignores the boot flag, and boots the code in the /boot partition right away
[10:36] <petan> mastertheknife: I was using grub with all recent windows and vista does not need boot flag nor xp or any other but if you think it would harm it, sure you can try what you suggest
[10:36] <Guest18960> is this right? - http://img5.glowfoto.com/images/2010/11/13-0206155720L.png
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> Chosi:  a binary with a .sh name - is a little odd. :)
[10:36] <petan> mastertheknife: in worst case you can set it back
[10:36] <Chosi> Dr_Willis: i know
[10:36] <Chosi> http://nandugopan.weebly.com/lammps-in-ubuntu.html got it off here
[10:36] <paddy_> I am trying to open an encrypted message sent to me in evolution but it will not automaticly open, it comes up as an attachment (.dat fle) but recognises the mime type PGP/MIME-encrypted message-header attachment. How do i get it to automaticly decode the message, I have already added my key ID to the account prefrances.
[10:36] <Chosi> and yeah it's still an elf binary
[10:37] <mastertheknife> im not using grub 2.0 so im not really sure how to change all that stuff
[10:38] <gvworker> Is there any fpaste like utility available in ubuntu ? fpaste.org. In fedora we can upload text directly from terminal using | fpaste
[10:38] <mastertheknife> this is what i used to boot XP http://pastebin.com/Cv1YV7J6
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> gvworker:  pastebinit
[10:38] <duckwars> why am I not allowed in #rtorrent? I can't tlak in there =(
[10:39] <petan> lea123: good luck
[10:40] <ubiquitous1980> microsoft
[10:40] <xocolatl> hi.  whenever I try to install something from the software center in maverick (from ubuntu's repositories, not third party) I get this message: The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[10:40] <xocolatl> how can I fix that
[10:40] <lea123> mastertheknife: fixmbr I believe would be applicable if I on recovery hdd unfortuntaely it isn't the issue
[10:40] <lea123> petan: BYE
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> !gpg
[10:41] <mastertheknife>  /fixmbr just replaces the bootcode in the MBR with windows's ones
[10:41] <mastertheknife> but thats if you dont want to boot linux anymore
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> xocolatl:  thers some sort of PGP key from the repos you can add. but im not sure how to do that. I tekd to use the command line tools and just ignore the warnings.
[10:41] <lea123> mastertheknife : but that isn't my problem
[10:41] <geboy> guys can you point me to some article on installing a routeros inside ubuntu with virtualbox and have the ability to start automatically
[10:42] <xocolatl> Dr_Willis, thanks.  I've been having to do that too but I shouldn't have to.  this is a clean install!
[10:42] <nibl2i> hello, i am not sure at the moment if this is a ubuntu or wine issue - ive installed call of duty 4 and when i start it i still see the top and bottom bar of ubuntu - does anyone now how i can hide that so that the game is running really in fullscreen?
[10:42] <gvworker> Dr_Willis: thanks
[10:42] <share> How can I create an alias for 'sudo apt-get upgrade'?
[10:43] <geboy> or can i install a virtualbox inside a server edition of ubuntu?
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> xocolatl:  You added some repos? or ppa's ? If its with just the default repos. I recall some web sites mentioning a 'fix' for bad keys. but not really seen teh issue here.
[10:43] <xocolatl> share, alias your_alias = 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[10:43] <xocolatl> Dr_Willis, it's for the default repos
[10:44] <share> xocolatl: and what i want to remove?
[10:44] <share> if
[10:44] <Guest18960> is this right? - http://img5.glowfoto.com/images/2010/11/13-0206155720L.png
[10:44] <nibl2i> ok it was caused by the default desktop effects
[10:44] <share> yea
[10:44] <xocolatl> Dr_Willis, I did add the ppa for postgresql but the package I'm trying to install isn't part of it.  software center won't even allow me to ignore the warning!
[10:44] <doc|home> Guest18960: I'd swap another 10gigs from home to /
[10:44] <share> Guest18960: depends if you are going to install many programs
[10:45] <doc|home> you won't use it all, but better safe than sorry
[10:45] <xocolatl> share, it's the same syntax
[10:45] <share> xocolatl: all and if want to add 2 or more commands just use && ?
[10:45] <share> alright
[10:45] <share> :p
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> xocolatl:  i never use the software center.. i find it a little brain dead
[10:46] <Guest18960> In last installation I have 10Giga for / but i have 5Giga free all the time
[10:46] <Guest18960> so I decided to leave only 6G
[10:46] <share> yeah
[10:46] <xocolatl> Dr_Willis, me too but if no one tests it, it'll never get any better
[10:46] <share> Guest18960: why you use ext2
[10:46] <doc|home> Guest18960: yeah, it is dependant on what you plan to use it for
[10:47] <xocolatl> Dr_Willis, it's already lots and lots better than lucid's version :)
[10:47] <share> for boot and home
[10:47] <Guest18960> share, someone tell me that for boot is ext2
[10:47] <xocolatl> Guest18960, you can use ext4 for boot if you want
[10:48] <share> I use ext4 for all
[10:48] <share> no problems
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> Guest18960:  i got 20gb for / and its full. :)
[10:48] <Guest18960> ok I'll change it
[10:48] <xocolatl> Guest18960, you just can't use btrfs for /boot yet
[10:50] <share> xocolatl:  alias your_alias = 'sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get upgrade'
[10:50] <dave3333> mastertheknife: Nov 13 21:16:19 Quad pulseaudio[5155]: pid.c: Stale PID file, overwriting.
[10:50] <Guest18960> Dr_Willis, I'm only user, I do not need many programs, so I think tha will be enough for me :)
[10:50] <share> xocolatl: and how do I know if the alias is already in use
[10:50] <dave3333> this is with the vlc player logging me out wheneveri start it
[10:51] <Reventlov> morning
[10:51] <share> ei Reventlov
[10:51] <share> "No manual entry for alias" -.-'
[10:51] <xocolatl> share, simply type "alias your_alias" and see what it tells you
[10:51] <share> k
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> Guest18960:  just a dvd reencode takes 4+GB in /tmp/ watch out.
[10:52] <share> xocolatl: gonna use update alias
[10:52] <xocolatl> share, okay :)
[10:54] <mastertheknife> dave3333: no idea :/
[10:54] <mastertheknife> lea123: sorry im not sure whats the problem \ what are you trying to do
[10:55] <mastertheknife> lea123: I thought you're trying to boot from a 1.6 GB windows partition
[10:55] <share> xocolatl: doesnt work
[10:55] <dave3333> mastertheknife: thanks for your help
[10:55] <share> xocolatl: alias update = sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[10:56] <xocolatl> share, you forgot the single quotes
[10:56] <xocolatl> share, alias update = 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' ?
[10:56] <share> doesnt work either
[10:56] <xocolatl> share, oops, without the question mark (I copied your text)
[10:57] <share> wait
[10:57] <share> google ftw
[10:57] <share> alias list='ls -la'
[10:57] <mastertheknife> dave3333: try running vlc from terminal (console), you will be able to see some errors
[10:57] <mastertheknife> dave3333: or even better, vlc --file-logging
[10:57] <xocolatl> share, it works perfectly here.  I just upgraded my machine lol
[10:58] <share> xocolatl: bash: alias: update: not found
[10:58] <share> bash: alias: =sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade: not found
[10:58] <share> when i try to add
[10:58] <xocolatl> share, alias update='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[10:58] <Benkinooby> i want to move to text user interface. is there a reasonable way to listen to youtube music or even vids while in text interface?
[10:59] <xocolatl> share, works perfectly for me
[10:59] <share> great xocolatl
[10:59] <share> :)
[10:59] <anygivenname> I ssh remotely but can not open browser if it was already opened on the server.....why is that ?
[10:59] <share> xocolatl:  the problem was the spaces
[10:59] <xocolatl> share, paste your actually command line
[10:59] <jrib> Benkinooby: maybe mplayer... (vlc probably too though I've never used that in a tty).  Why bother though?
[10:59] <xocolatl> share, oh okay.  so it works now?
[10:59] <share> yes
[11:00] <xocolatl> share, okay
[11:00] <xocolatl> share, you need to put that line in your .bashrc otherwise it's only good for this session
[11:00] <share> so alias came from linux.. i've always used them on irc clients
[11:00] <share> :P
[11:00] <share> oh
[11:00] <Kingsy> ok guys I have just put ubuntu on a machine and its using some RANDOM jap monitor I cant even say the make heh, and for some reason the screen is slightly offset to the right, is there a program you can use to tweak it into the right posistion?
[11:00] <Benkinooby> jrib, i have a computer that is very slow. i want to run it with minimal install and tmux (it's like scree) adn was wondering if it was possible.
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> anygivenname:  firefox is using a script that does that. theres a '--no-remote' (or similer option) that disables the feature
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> anygivenname:  check firefox --help   for details
[11:01] <Reventlov> Benkinooby: take the server img :p
[11:01] <Reventlov> then install what u want*
[11:01] <anygivenname> ok thanks
[11:01] <sara2010> hi
[11:01] <sara2010> any one help me
[11:01] <jrib> Benkinooby: X with a minimal window manager is too heavy for it?
[11:02] <sara2010> how to install firefox 3.6
[11:02] <xocolatl> sara2010, sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:02] <xocolatl> sara2010, should already be installed by default
[11:02] <Kingsy> is xvidtune the right prog for this?
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> Kingsy:  ages ago you could use xmodeset  but i think thats obsoleted these days. Check teh monitor controills also.
[11:03] <Benkinooby> jrib, later i will install fluxbox unad see what's possible. but for now i want to see what i can do without X. until now i never really understood what a fraebuffer is (also the name framebuffer seems to be used for different things) and how the  whole X system works (what's x, x11 are the the same thing? what's xorg? what is a display manager doing?)
[11:04] <sara2010> xocolatl  its removed
[11:04] <Benkinooby> i hope i will learn something by doing so
[11:04] <sara2010> i mean its currept
[11:04] <Kingsy> Dr_Willis - yea I will try the auto button on the monitor but if that doesnt work.. what would be my option?
[11:04] <sara2010> i want remove this one
[11:04] <share> just a offtopic: I wish someone told me and/or force me  to use Linux years ago. what i have missed!
[11:04] <sara2010> and reinstall it
[11:05] <xocolatl> sara2010, you want to remove which one?
[11:05] <degantyll> share, I thought the same when I discovered it :D
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> Kingsy:  let me guess.. this is a CRT monitor?
[11:05] <sara2010> its 3.0
[11:05] <Kingsy> Dr_Willis - nope its LCD but its old and a weird make
[11:05] <sara2010> i want remove it
[11:06] <sara2010> and i want install  3.6
[11:06] <sara2010> how  i can
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> Kingsy:  Try the xrandr tools and xvidtune.  could be the refresh rate is wrong also. but that would be weird.
[11:06] <sara2010> i have download  firefox-3.6.12.tar.bz2
[11:07] <Kingsy> ok cheers I will try em and get back to ya
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> sara2010:  there are ppa's of newer firefox versions.. or you can use that tar.bz
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> sara2010:  so extract the acrhive, cd to the dir  and run firefox..  no need to 'install' it from that archive
[11:08] <jenda> Hi. I can't boot Ubuntu from hard drive, and CDs don't boot at all. At this point, I'm not trying to save the computer, but it would be great if I could boot up at least once to copy over my data. The laptop doesn't boot from USB (old bios?) - could LAN boot help?
[11:09] <sara2010> dr
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> jenda:  the laptop cant boot from ANY cd at all? or do some work?
[11:09] <sara2010> but  old version are opning
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> jenda:  theres always the lan boot option..
[11:09] <jrib> !away > techhelper1
[11:09] <sara2010> i download 3.6
[11:09] <sara2010> how i remove 3.0
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> sara2010:  extract the archive.. cd TO the archive directory. run the binary in the arvhice directory. not the ones in the menu.
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> sara2010:  you can use the apcakge manager tools to remove pacakges.
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> !firefox
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> sara2010:  odds are you DONT want to be using thast tar.bz version. its better proberly to use a PPA to install it system wide.
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> sara2010:  for starters what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> sara2010:  theres no need to MSG me.
[11:14] <sara2010> how i can remove
[11:14] <sara2010> firefox
[11:14] <rigved> what is the difference between installing google chrome from a .deb package downloaded from the Google website and installing it via Software Center?
[11:14] <charley> I feel like my wireless network dongle isn't working at full capacity, is there a way to test that I have the 'best' drivers? or is googleing the only way to find more information? or is there a simple tool that someone has written
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> sara2010:  You use teh various package manager tools such as synaptic, or software center to remove software.
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> rigved:  the software center normally has a repo to access the thing. but i THINK the google deb may add its repo  to the listing. so it proberly dosetn matter.
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> rigved:  install the .deb and check your repository lising. see if googles repo has been added.
[11:16] <jenda> Dr Willis: no CD at all - tried several.
[11:16] <mmyself> how does one re-format a DVD-RW with Brasero? All I get is a useless disc .. unless I use Windows and Windows Apps to re-format. This is so Stupid of Linux programmers!
[11:16] <geboy> how to disable a network interface?
[11:16] <rigved> this is because i have installed google chrome via a .deb package downloaded from the internet and now i'm unable to uninstal it...
[11:16] <sara2010> from where i install software center
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> jenda:  even windows cd's dont boot. the BIOS is set to boot from cd?
[11:16] <jenda> Dr Willis: I've never tried booting from LAN, so I have no idea how it works.
[11:16] <geboy> i need to have one interface just on so the dhcp goes to my virtualbox interface
[11:16] <jenda> Dr Willis: correct
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> sara2010:  its in the menus - 'ubuntu software center' -   or use the 'synaptic' gui too,
[11:17] <geboy> help please
[11:17] <rigved> Dr_Willis: yes it has been added. but i cannot uninstall it even via Sfotware Center or Synaptic...
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> jenda:  that weird that it cant boot at all from cd..
[11:17] <jenda> Dr Willis: it just skips the boot from CD and tries to boot from HDD (and GRUB errors out), and if I disable HDD boot, it hangs on a black screen with a cursor indefinitely.
[11:17] <share> How can update and upgrade without using "sudo apt-get" all the time?
[11:17] <sara2010> there is no way to remove by terminal ?
[11:17] <jenda> Dr Willis: agreed
[11:17] <jenda> Dr Willis: what do I need to boot from LAN?
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> sara2010:  yes there is..  if yu know the exact package name.
[11:17] <xocolatl> share, use the upgrade manager
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> jenda:  never tried that lan booting.
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> !install
[11:18] <geboy> !ethernet
[11:18] <jenda> Dr Willis: BTW, it won't even boot from Super Grub Disk
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> jenda:  thers some wiki/guides on do int it.. I would put the HD in a differnt boxx and install to it
[11:18] <geboy> !interface
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> !info firefox
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> sara2010:  sudo apt-get remove firefox  Might remove it...
[11:18] <jenda> Dr Willis: I'm not too god with hardware and am worried I'd mess something up.
[11:18] <share> xocolatl: im asking this because i want to create and alias like sudo apt-get autoclean sudo apt-get clean sudo apt-get autoremove sudo apt-get remove .. do i have to use sudo all the time?  i know i could bind the alias to a script
[11:18] <mmyself> can anyone get past the silly Install or Try live CD splash screen .. as it sticks everytime on every Sony and Tosh laptop for me. Who needs a splash screen to decide!!!?
[11:19] <share> *an
[11:19] <geboy> whats the best irc client for ubuntu
[11:19] <xocolatl> share, yes you have to use sudo all the time
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> mmyself:  whats your video chipset? I have to use teh nomodeset option for my Nvidia systems.
[11:19] <x1m> кто знает как настроить pvpgn?
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> geboy:  depends on your needs.
[11:19] <share> geboy: CLI = irssi  GUI = xchat
[11:19] <sara2010> firefox is package name
[11:19] <xocolatl> geboy, I like xchat
[11:19] <jenda> Dr Willis: I just want to save my data - installing the system isn't the issue ATM
[11:19] <mmyself> intel
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> !info firefox | sara2010
[11:19] <share> geboy: you can also use mIRC with wine..
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> sara2010:  'source: firefox' so yes. firefox is the package name.
[11:20] <geboy> share: what about kvirc?
[11:20] <mmyself> 4500 or something like that - all about 2 - 3 years old
[11:20] <share> geboy: i just use irssi and xchat
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> jenda:  I would put the HD in a usb enclosure. That PC may be having deeper issues.
[11:20] <geboy> so i just do sudo apt-get install xchat?
[11:20] <share> geboy: yes
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> geboy:  or use the package manager tools.
[11:21] <geboy> Dr_Willis: its the same?
[11:21] <jenda> Dr Willis: that's true, but I don't want to handle the HDD myself - if I can't boot into the machine, I'd have to have it recovered professionally, and that's really expensive.
[11:21] <sara2010> sudo apt-get install firefox-3.6
[11:21] <sara2010> Reading package lists... Done
[11:21] <sara2010> Building dependency tree
[11:21] <sara2010> Reading state information... Done
[11:21] <sara2010> E: Couldn't find package firefox-3.6
[11:21] <sara2010> root@ssss:/opt/firefox#
[11:21] <FloodBot4> sara2010: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:21] <rigved> Dr_Willis: i have installed Google Chrome via a .deb package and now i'm unable to uninstall chrome via Software Center or Synaptic (yes it is listed in the list). How do I uninstall it so that i can install chromium (the open source version and base of chrome)?
[11:21] <geboy> Dr_Willis: so i choose the xchat-gnome package?
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> sara2010:  the package name may be just 'firefox'  use apt-cache search firefox  to find out.
[11:21] <jenda> Dr Willis: It's possible the CD drive has been broken for years, and I didn't notice until I broke the HDD OS.
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> geboy:  i use xchat,. pepople normally HATE xchat-gnome
[11:22] <share> because it's too simple
[11:22] <jrib> rigved: what happens when you try to uninstall it exactly? (use apt-get and pastebin your command and the full output)
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> jenda:  yep. find a new cd/dvd drive? I used to have a dozen of them :)
[11:22] <sagaci> sara2010: what version of ubuntu are you runnin
[11:22] <geboy> Dr_Willis: the one without gnome?
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> rigved:  theres a ppa-purge option also.
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> geboy:  the name is 'xchat' not xchat-gnome. so yes.
[11:22] <sara2010> 7.4
[11:22] <share> xocolatl: alias clean='sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get remove
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> geboy:  install them both.. try them out.
[11:22] <jenda> Dr Willis: would have to be external, it's a laptop
[11:22] <share> '
[11:22] <bazhang> sara2010, 7.04?
[11:23] <xocolatl> share, with an apostrophe at the end, that should work
[11:23] <sagaci> sara2010: you'll be better off using 10.04 or 10.10
[11:23] <share> ye
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> jenda:  i picked up a 'universial' usb hard drive enclosuer the other day for $20 :) does sata/ide/laptop/destkop sized hd's all with 1 cable.
[11:23] <xocolatl> share, but why do you want to do that?
[11:23] <geboy> ok thanks
[11:23] <rigved> jrib: it gives uninstall successful, but i can still see the chrome link in Applications > Internet. (the chrome icon is replaced by a question mark)...
[11:23] <bazhang> sara2010, that is no longer supported; time for an upgrade
[11:23] <share> xocolatl: remove unnecessary files
[11:23] <jenda> Dr Willis: sounds very useful
[11:23] <jrib> rigved: and when you click on it?
[11:23] <sara2010> now any one know
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> jenda:  yep.
[11:24] <geboy> so does anyone here know how to make an ethernet interface just on without asking dhcp to my cable modem?
[11:24] <sara2010> how i remove firefox
[11:24] <sara2010> any one know command ?
[11:24] <bazhang> sara2010, 7.04 is no longer supported
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> sara2010:  using Ubuntu 7.04 - is not going to be workign very well.  The newer firefox's proberly wonr work on it.
[11:24] <jenda> Dr Willis: I used to have a similar laptop I sold to a friend - do you think switching the drives for a while could solve the data rescue problem?
[11:24] <xocolatl> share, do you have diskspace issues?  I don't know the last time I did autoclean
[11:24] <sagaci> sara2010: why do you want to remove firefox
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> sara2010:  so its time to upgrade. or keep the old FF.
[11:24] <share> sara2010: why do you want to remove Firefox? it's the best browser out thre
[11:24] <bazhang> !eol > sara2010
[11:24] <geboy> Dr_Willis? any idea how?
[11:24] <rigved> jrib: so the uninstall was unsuccessful as it was not able to remove everything, right?
[11:24] <share> xocolatl: 1TB :P
[11:24] <geboy> share? you perhaps?
[11:24] <jrib> rigved: what happens when you click on the icon?
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> geboy:  how to what?
[11:25] <xocolatl> share, then I wouldn't worry about it :)
[11:25] <geboy> Dr_Willis: make my ethernet interface just on without asking ip address to any dhcp
[11:25] <everyrainyday> i install samba and specify a share path and make allowed users where can i see my shared file
[11:25] <everyrainyday> i wanna share a path throw VM
[11:25] <xocolatl> share, but I understand that you're discovering ubuntu and installing a whole bunch of stuff.  I did the same thing when I was discovering, and I also wanted to autoremove and autoclean a lot.  you get over it :)
[11:26] <rigved> jrib: nothing
[11:26] <sara2010> i want update firefox
[11:26] <anotherubuntusr> Hi. I have problem with flash player (under any browser). When I click the full screen option the standard (small) window turns black, still I can hear the sound of running video. I am using 10.10 and flash version 10.1 r102.
[11:26] <jrib> rigved: just edit your menu and remove the menu entry then
[11:26] <bazhang> sara2010, you can't.
[11:26] <everyrainyday> i wanna share a path through VM
[11:26] <sara2010> i have download  new version of firefox
[11:27] <bazhang> sara2010, upgrade your version of Ubuntu
[11:27] <sagaci> sara2010: it's not recommended for upgrade in 7.04. You're better getting it fresh in a newer version of Ubuntu
[11:27] <share> lol xchat is hilighting me with share :P
[11:27] <sara2010> means there is no way to remove firefox
[11:27] <shawnme> hi al
[11:27] <share> sara2010: you can remove Firefox
[11:27] <jrib> share: well don't you feel silly about your name choice... :)
[11:27] <bazhang> sara2010, that version is not supported.
[11:27] <xocolatl> sara2010, you're using 7.04 which is no longer supported.  if you want to still use that and also new firefox, you'll need to install firefox manually from the mozilla website
[11:27] <paddy_> I am trying to open an encrypted message sent to me in evolution but it will not automaticly open, it comes up as an attachment (.dat fle) but recognises the mime type PGP/MIME-encrypted message-header attachment. How do i get it to automaticly decode the message, I have already added my key ID to the account prefrances.
[11:27] <share> jrib: no lol..
[11:28] <everyrainyday> i got a problem with samba
[11:28] <rigved> jrib: so that will uninstall it completely, right. there is no problem with the uninstall, right? i though that there was problem (like unsuccessful uninstall) that's why i asked.
[11:28] <everyrainyday> anyone to help?
[11:28] <sara2010> 1st   i  must remove old version of firefox
[11:28] <bazhang> sara2010, you're not listening.
[11:28] <sagaci> sara2010: you must follow instructions
[11:28] <rigved> Dr_Willis, jrib: thanx a lot for your help
[11:28] <everyrainyday> is there any one here to help me with shared files in ubuntu?
[11:28] <jrib> rigved: if apt-get says the uninstall was successful, then it was successful.  It may just leave config files around (because you didn't purge) but that's not a problem
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[11:29] <FloodBot4> TheCrasher: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:29] <hashashin> TheCrasher: no escribas todo en mayusculas, va contra las normas. La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> rigved:  theres a ppapurge program out that can help clean up ppas
[11:29] <rigved> Dr_Willis: like apt-get purge...
[11:29] <jrib> erm
[11:29] <everyrainyday> can any one help me with SAMBA
[11:29] <sagaci> everyrainyday: what's wrong with it
[11:29] <everyrainyday> i use a GUI for it
[11:30] <geboy> is what thecrasher told is correct?
[11:30] <bazhang> geboy, no
[11:30] <everyrainyday> make a path and allowed users
[11:30] <sagaci> everyrainyday: so what's the problem
[11:30] <share> jrib: hashashin just said "dont use capslock or youll get banned" lol
[11:30] <jrib> share: I know
[11:30] <everyrainyday> i wanna make a shared path between ubuntu and windows with VMware
[11:31] <jrib> geboy: no, ignore him
[11:31] <geboy> jrib: ok thanks
[11:31] <everyrainyday> i'm not sure how to do it with samba
[11:32] <jrib> everyrainyday: is this sharing between guest and host?
[11:32] <geboy> guys please help me, i'm really desperate, i can't seem to make i
[11:32] <everyrainyday> well i'm not sure but as i said i use VMware
[11:33] <everyrainyday> so it must be right?
[11:33] <geboy> my ethernet connection to just left on without getting dhcp to my modem
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[11:33] <mataks> how to install graphic driver  i have Intel Corporation 82852/855GM running in toshiba l10
[11:33] <everyrainyday> how should i share a path with samba
[11:33] <jrib> everyrainyday: how can you not be sure?
[11:34] <everyrainyday> where can i see my shared path in windows
[11:34] <jrib> everyrainyday: if you don't answer questions, it's pretty hard to help you
[11:34] <jrib> mataks: you shouldn't have to do anything
[11:34] <suigeneris> /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable <--- how can I break the lock?
[11:35] <share> !ask | everyrainyday
[11:35] <everyrainyday> can u help me from first step?
[11:35] <geboy> ok simplest thing, why does my  /etc/network/interfaces just show auth lo only while i have two card connected
[11:35] <jrib> everyrainyday: is this sharing between guest and host?
[11:35] <jrib> geboy: network manager takes care of your connectinos
[11:35] <jenda> Does anyone have any experience with network booting? I'm not really sure where to start, and yet it seems the only way to save my data without paying ridiculous amounts of money for data rescue.
[11:35] <everyrainyday> no.2 computer in same level
[11:36] <jrib> everyrainyday: so just right click on a folder in nautilus, share
[11:36] <jenda> I have a computer available where I can boot from an Ubuntu live CD - if needed, I even have an older Ubuntu version installed.
[11:36] <geboy> jrib: any way i can edit them so that i can shut one off
[11:36] <jrib> geboy: you should be able to use the gui network configuration tool in your menus (don't know the path offhand)
[11:36] <everyrainyday> what's the nautilus?
[11:36] <jrib> everyrainyday: the default file manager in ubuntu
[11:36] <everyrainyday> can i do it with samba?
[11:37] <jrib> everyrainyday: that does it with samba
[11:37] <everyrainyday> ok
[11:37] <geboy> jrib: on system-preferences-network connection. but i wanted to do some unusual thing tho
[11:37] <geboy> lol
[11:37] <sagaci> everyrainyday: less think, just do
[11:37] <jrib> geboy: like?
[11:38] <geboy> jrib: i need to install a router os on virtualbox. and i have a cable modem connection. so one of my interface have to be just in the state of 'on'
[11:38] <everyrainyday> can u give the comands for that
[11:38] <geboy> without asking ip address to the cable modem
[11:38] <suigeneris> /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable <--- how can I break the lock?
[11:38] <everyrainyday> for doing it from terminal i mean
[11:38] <jrib> everyrainyday: I just told you how to do it by clicking on things.  Did that not work?
[11:38] <sagaci> everyrainyday: you don't need commands
[11:38] <jrib> !samba | everyrainyday
[11:38] <geboy> so the routeros's dhcp client will get the cable modem dhcp server
[11:38] <bazhang> suigeneris, this is debian?
[11:38] <suigeneris> lsof | grep config.dat didn't return anything
[11:39] <sagaci> everyrainyday: sudo apt-get install samba
[11:39] <suigeneris> bazhang, ubuntu
[11:39] <bazhang> suigeneris, which version
[11:39] <geboy> jrib: do you get the idea?
[11:39] <everyrainyday> sagaci i do that already
[11:39] <suigeneris> bazhang, 10.10
[11:39] <jrib> geboy: don't know.  Though I think you can still just use the interfaces file if you want
[11:39] <bazhang> suigeneris, is another package manager or instance of apt running?
[11:39] <suigeneris> bazhang, nope
[11:39] <sagaci> everyrainyday: well what do you need commands for. you can just use the file manager to move and copy, share files
[11:40] <geboy> jrib: which take precedence? the interface file or network manager gui?
[11:40] <everyrainyday> where can i find nautilus?
[11:40] <suigeneris> bazhang, but when I ssh'd in the other day, I had to close the shell because the ssh session froze
[11:40] <everyrainyday> the file manager
[11:40] <suigeneris> everyrainyday, Places
[11:40] <bazhang> everyrainyday, are you using gnome?
[11:40] <jrib> geboy: I haven't really looked into it.  But I believe the interfaces file will.  Maybe you have to disable the interface in network manager too to use the interfaces file -- not sure.
[11:41] <sagaci> everyrainyday: it's the default, just go to Places and click a directory
[11:41] <geboy> jrib: ok let me play with it forawhile
[11:41] <jenda> How do I know if I have a PXE capable network card?
[11:41] <geboy> jrib: inthe mean time, thanks dude
[11:41] <sagaci> geboy: try and boot off it, check your boot options
[11:42] <everyrainyday> yes i'm gnome
[11:42] <sagaci> geboy: or bios
[11:42] <everyrainyday> using gnome
[11:42] <geboy> sagaci: what do you mean
[11:42] <suigeneris> bazhang, so?
[11:42] <sagaci> everyrainyday: well if you're really having trouble, press ALT+F2 and then enter nautilus
[11:42] <bazhang> !aptfix | suigeneris
[11:43] <sagaci> geboy: when you start your computer, try and go into the bios setup
[11:43] <geboy> sagaci: what should i do in bios?
[11:43] <sagaci> geboy: or check your motherboard manual
[11:43] <suigeneris> bazhang, same thing
[11:43] <sagaci> geboy: well it might be enabled by default but look under Boot tab
[11:43] <geboy> acctually, i have achieve this in windows, you just turn of the ip checkbox in interface configuration
[11:44] <everyrainyday> i make a shared file the way u told me with nautilus so should i see that in my windows?
[11:44] <sagaci> everyrainyday: I doubt it
[11:44] <das_grosse_W> hi. i need some help with the catalyst settings. i change the scaling properties to "keep aspect ratio" for lower resolutions, but everytime i restart the settings are gone. How can i set it permanently?
[11:44] <everyrainyday> what should i do?
[11:44] <sagaci> everyrainyday: windows can't see ext partitions
[11:44] <jrib> geboy: can you achieve what you want by just telling network-manager to use a static ip?
[11:45] <everyrainyday> so what's the sharing for?
[11:45] <geboy> the cable modem will not give ip address to the guest os tho
[11:45] <sagaci> everyrainyday: linux to linux systems
[11:45] <jrib> everyrainyday: yeah, you should see the sharing in windows too
[11:45] <sagaci> everyrainyday: or if you installed and used fat32 as the fs
[11:45] <everyrainyday> where?
[11:46] <jrib> everyrainyday: I have no clue, ask ##windows
[11:46] <dbc254> STILL trying to get my wireless PCI card on my desktop to work. It's installed, driver installed, no wireless tab.  What's wrong?
[11:46] <jrib> everyrainyday: or maybe even #samba
[11:47] <suigeneris> bazhang, same thing
[11:47] <cruelintension> hi friends
[11:47] <cruelintension> i have a small problem in ubuntu-studio 10.10
[11:48] <clu3> hey guys, minght be a stupid question, what's the best laptop for using ubuntu for programming
[11:48] <clu3> I've only used desktop befor
[11:48] <everyrainyday> ok.if i got the solution i will back..this is my problem :i install ubuntu in VMware and my main OS is windows i wanna share a path between these two OS with the help of samba
[11:49] <galadude> how can i convert lyx files into something equation editor can understand?
[11:49] <jrib> clu3: try #ubuntu-offtopic or ##hardware maybe for hardware recommendations
[11:49] <cruelintension> everyrainyday try the ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:49] <mastertheknife> everyrainyday: samba\cifs can work
[11:49] <everyrainyday> what's that?
[11:49] <jrib> everyrainyday: this isn't what you said you wanted to do... :/
[11:49] <clu3> jrib, thanks!
[11:49] <AbhiJit> there is tasms and memos panel in right hand side of calender in evolution. how to remove them?
[11:49] <everyrainyday> well see it this way :D
[11:49] <mastertheknife> everyrainyday: although dual boot > vmware, lol
[11:49] <cruelintension> i cannot find any wifi spots in ubuntu 10.10
[11:49] <charley> how does ubuntu keep track of the network history, is there a command line way to check the total recieved data and recieved rate
[11:50] <jrib> everyrainyday: #vmware can help you share between guest and host
[11:50] <charley> also, how do I set alternative DNS servers in ubuntu?
[11:50] <mastertheknife> I started with vmware, then went with dual boot and now on my new HD i dont even have windows anymore, lol
[11:50] <sagaci> cruelintension: what wireless adapter are you using, or is it inbuilt
[11:50] <cruelintension> i am using sony vaio vpcea16fg laptop
[11:51] <cruelintension> in ubuntu 10.04 i used to get the signal icon on the top right corner but i dont have anything like that in ubuntu studio 10.10
[11:52] <moah> hello everybody. i have the following problem: i installed 10.04 on a spare partition, but didnt install the bootloader, because i wanted to use my old (grub1). but grub1 doesnt seem to be able to load 10.04, so now i want to install it manually. can anyone point me to a tutorial on how to do this?
[11:52] <sagaci> cruelintension: does it recognise your card in the networkmanager applet
[11:52] <AbhiJit> there is tasms and memos panel in right hand side of calender in evolution. how to remove them?
[11:52] <AbhiJit> tasks*
[11:52] <share> How can I get a program description in terminal?
[11:52] <sagaci> moah: probably better off to reinstall and install grub2
[11:53] <cruelintension> how do i check whether it is recognized
[11:53] <AbhiJit> where is evolution channel?
[11:53] <geboy> mmm... how can you automatically mount an ntfs partition everytime it boots?
[11:53] <dbc254> am I in this channel yet?
[11:53] <dean_> Hi there could someone tell me how to enable my wireless connection on the LXDE Desktop?
[11:53] <cruelintension> i have two things in my administrative tools 1) network 2)network tools
[11:53] <AbhiJit> !fixgrub | moah
[11:53] <AbhiJit> dean_, #lubuntu
[11:53] <dean_> thanks AbhiJit
[11:54] <goer> Links/urls dragged on to my Panel are gone after I reboot. What to do pls?
[11:54] <AbhiJit> dean_, welcome
[11:54] <shazzr> Is it at all possible to upgrade the iPhone firmware if I'm running Ubuntu?
[11:54] <sagaci> dean_: try installing the restricted driver if possible
[11:54] <moah> sagaci: thats not a solution of my problem. ;)
[11:54] <AbhiJit> moah, read the links given by ubottu
[11:54] <dean_> it dont give me the option I already have Ubuntu which I am using but installed the LXDE desktop but its not connecting to the internet?
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> goer:  cant say that ive ever tried to drag a Link from a browser into the panel..
[11:55] <moah> AbhiJit: i am reading right now, thanks.
[11:55] <AbhiJit> dean_, ask in the channel #lubuntu they may know better
[11:55] <dean_> ok AbhiJit
[11:55] <anygivenname> when I connect remotely to my Ubuntu machine...vnc viewer shows 3/4 screen surrounded by black even in full screen mode....is there any fix to this?
[11:55] <sagaci> moah: you should just go through the install process but manually select partitions but don't actually install, just the bootloader
[11:55] <goer> I got one to stay there but any extra ones don't stya. Hmm...
[11:55] <sagaci> cruelintension: try installing the driver for your wireless card
[11:56] <Emry> The floodbot thing is freaky. ^^;;
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> goer:  try adding a launcher manually and giving it a url.
[11:56] <AbhiJit> where is evolution channel?
[11:56] <AbhiJit> there is tasks and memos panel in right hand side of calender in evolution. how to remove them?
[11:56] <Emry> :P is there a way to change from a server install to a standard desktop install?
[11:56] <goer> Thnx, will try that instead. :)
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> goer:  or make a launcjher that runs 'firefox http://whatever' perhaps.  I just use bookmarks. :)
[11:56] <moah> sagaci: actually, i wanted to find out how i can install the boot loader manually, to actually learn something. "jsut put the cd in and click reinstall" is not a answer.
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> Emry:  install ubuntu-desktop package.
[11:56] <bazhang> Emry, install ubuntu-desktop
[11:56] <bazhang> AbhiJit, /msg alis list *evolution*
[11:56] <cruelintension> i used network tools i see three options loopback,wireless interface and ethernet interface
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> Emry:  its better to start with the desktop edition however.
[11:57] <sagaci> moah: if you want the hard version, go for it
[11:57] <AbhiJit> bazhang, that channel is dead. i mean the new channel where they shifted
[11:57] <Emry> Dr_Willis, :-)  I know, but when I did the install a long while back, I only had the server CD on hand. ^_^
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> AbhiJit:  the channel topic dosent say where they moved?
[11:57] <AbhiJit> Dr_Willis, no
[11:58] <moah> sagaci: youre actually not a help in any way, so please stop talking to me.
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> AbhiJit:  check their web site/forums and file a bug report. :)
[11:58] <bhaskarv> How do I ssh or telnet into a linksys router?
[11:58] <AbhiJit> Dr_Willis, sure! :)
[11:58] <bazhang> moah, install grub2 from the live cd check the wiki
[11:58] <bazhang> !grub2 | moah
[11:58] <k5673> Yo! How can i optimize the performance of virtual guests runing in ubuntu 10.04 with KVM.
[11:58] <k5673> Processor Intel Xeon E5420 @ 2.5 GHz. 16 Gb RAM
[11:58] <k5673> Lucid Guests
[11:58] <k5673> Both x86 and x86_64
[11:58] <Emry> Dr_Willis, It says that Ubuntu Desktop is up to date, but it is still using the Ubuntu-server kernel and such. ^^ :P
[11:58] <FloodBot4> k5673: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:58] <anygivenname> when I connect remotely to my Ubuntu machine...vnc viewer shows 3/4 screen surrounded by black even in full screen mode....is there any fix to this?
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> bhaskarv:  ssh ip.numn.of.router
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> Emry:  install the otehr kernels I guess.. why does the kernel really matter?
[11:59] <bhaskarv> Dr_Willis, I get connection refused
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> bhaskarv:  not all routers support ssh, or telnet.
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> bhaskarv:  try it via telnet perhaps.
[12:00] <degantyll> Dr_Willis, the kernel configs mainly, optimizations
[12:00] <bhaskarv> Dr_Willis, so how do I login to configure the routing protocols if I want to?
[12:00] <bhaskarv> Dr_Willis, telnet isn't working either
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> bhaskarv:  no idea - it depends on the router i imagine... check its docs and web interface perhaps.
[12:00] <degantyll> bhaskarv, web interface
[12:00] <k5673> Yo! How can i optimize the performance of virtual guests runing in ubuntu 10.04 with KVM? Processor Intel Xeon E5420 @ 2.5 GHz. 16 Gb RAM. Lucid Guests.Both x86 and x86_64
[12:00] <Ring0`> Hi, dispite that this is not english version of ubuntu.
[12:00] <cruelintension> guys any help for my wifi connection with my laptop i cannot find the radar thing which makes my task easier in ubuntu 10.04
[12:00] <Ring0`> KontynuowaÄ [T/n]? T
[12:00] <Ring0`> Przerwane.
[12:01] <degantyll> cruelintension, the 'radar' thing?
[12:01] <dean_> No one seems to be talking in Lubuntu does anyone in here have any LXDE experience?
[12:01] <bhaskarv> degantyll, web interface only allows you to configure the IP address and other parameters
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> dean_:  Minimal. but ask the channel and see what people know.
[12:01] <k5673> cruelintension:wifi-radar
[12:01] <cruelintension> degantyll i used to get a small signal icon on the top right corner that shows me alll the wifi hot spots in ubuntu 10.04
[12:01] <bhaskarv> degantyll, security credentials and others
[12:01] <degantyll> cruelintension, try running nm-applet
[12:02] <cruelintension> degantyll : i dont see that in ubuntu-studion 10.10
[12:02] <k5673> cruelintension:or network manager. the applet
[12:02] <degantyll> bhaskarv, well you can try telneting into the machine as you suggested, just do telnet IP
[12:02] <dean_> Ok Dr_Willis I have installed the LXDE on my Ubuntu Gnome OS but when I log into LXDE I cant connect to the internet there is no wireless icon?
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> dean_:  perhaps rn the nm-applet tool.
[12:02] <AbhiJit> dean_, there is #lxde channel and their main channel is #lxde on irc.oftc.net :)
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> dean_:  nm-applet is the default tool to configure networking on gnome, should work on lxde also.
[12:03] <k5673> cruelintension: apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[12:03] <dean_> where do I find that Dr_Willis I am a bit of a noob?
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> dean_:  run it from the command line.
[12:03] <dean_> the dreaded terminal lol
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> beats searching in menus....
[12:04] <cruelintension> k5673 i need to get connected first to install that right
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> and given that i dont think it even HAS a icon in the menus...
[12:04] <dean_> I struggle to use terminal
[12:04] <k5673> cruelintension: Use the CD
[12:04] <k5673> cruelintension:As repository
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> dean_:  time to learn it then.
[12:04] <degantyll> cruelintension, just try running nm-applet
[12:04] <k5673> cruelintension: try the degantyll idea frist
[12:04] <cruelintension> ok trying
[12:04] <k5673> first
[12:04] <dean_> is there any guides I can follow?
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> !terminal
[12:05] <bhaskarv> degantyll, telnet : Connection refused
[12:05] <sagaci> dean_: open a terminal, copy paste command
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> Theres 1000's of shell/terminal guides and tutorials out there...
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> dean_:  run 'nm-applet &' then 'exit'  once you see its icon
[12:05] <dean_> Ok thanks Dr_Willis
[12:06] <k5673> Yo! How can i optimize the performance of virtual guests runing in ubuntu 10.04 with KVM? Processor Intel Xeon E5420 @ 2.5 GHz. 16 Gb RAM. Lucid Guests.Both x86 and x86_64
[12:06] <cruelintension> i get this output "E: Unable to locate package network-manager-gnome
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> !info network-manager-gnome'
[12:07] <sagaci> should be already install
[12:07] <sagaci> ed
[12:07] <lungan> Is there anyway to get the desktop do view my stuff as a list instead of icons?
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> lungan:  not that ive ever seen.
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> Best habbit is to get away from using the 'desktop' as a 'junk pile' :)
[12:08] <k5673> cruelintension: use the cd as repository. insert the cd and do 'apt-cdrom add /dev/sr0 && apt-get update && apt-get' install network-manager-gnome
[12:09] <Haegin> ohhai, so I think a recent kernel update totally b0rk'd mah wireless mouse - anyone know anything about this?
[12:09] <k5673> Haegin: and the model of the mouse is...
[12:11]  * hashashin nas
[12:11] <roxdragon> hi
[12:12] <sagaci> roxdragon: hi
[12:12] <roxdragon> i have a problem with 10.04
[12:12] <roxdragon> on start pc... init: ureadahead-other mian process terminated with status 4
[12:12] <Dr_Willis> !details
[12:13] <sprizz> does anyone mind helping out with a Mint 10 boot up issue?
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> roxdragon:  i see that on all my m achines.. they all seem to be working fine  with that message
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> sprizz:  mint has its own support channels/forums
[12:13] <sprizz> Dr_Willis: yeah, no one is alive in there
[12:13] <Haegin> k5673: two unbranded wireless mouse - they work fine on windows and at least one worked fine on an older linux
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> sprizz:  sounds like a good reason to not use mint. Check their forums I guess.
[12:14] <sprizz> Dr_Willis: thanks for the tip
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> Haegin:  try unplug/pluging them in
[12:14] <roxdragon> Dr_Willis,  how to solve??
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> roxdragon:  i dont really find it a problem. its some sort of spurious warning from having USB hard drives plugged in i belive. The systems work fine.
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> roxdragon:  is there some actual issue going on? or just seeing a message at boot time as the system boots?
[12:15] <Haegin> Dr_Willis: I've already tried that. I've also replaced the batteries, re-pushed the connect button on the mouse wth such an archaic system in place and powered the machine and the mouse off and on again
[12:15] <tomoyuki28jp> Where is the log file for emacs?
[12:15] <dean_> Hi I have an issue with connecting to wireless can someone help?
[12:15] <Haegin> !ask
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> Haegin:  you could check what modules are loaded with lsmod. see what 'dmesg' says as you remove/plug it back in. and test with a live cd. see if it works on the live cd. if SO . check what modules are loaded on the live cd. (with lsmod)
[12:16] <sagaci> dean_: did you try running nm-applet
[12:16] <galadude> with lyx, how can i convert a equation into a picture? (png)
[12:16] <dean_> Hi I can only use the internet when I type nm-applet it connects but as soon as I exit the terminal the wireless disconnects again
[12:16] <roxdragon> Dr_Willis, no usb connected only to the message
[12:17] <aeon-ltd> dean_: add to start up, or try 'nm-applet &'
[12:17] <bazhang> dean_, try with alt-f2
[12:17] <red2kic> dean_: ALT+F2 --> Type -->  nm-applet
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> dean_:  did you start it via --> 'nm-applet &' then 'exit' like i said earlier?
[12:17] <dean_> I did yeah
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> exit command should close the terminal and keep nm-applet going.. or use that alt-f2 trick
[12:17] <Haegin> Dr_Willis: lsmod - http://pastebin.com/dGMqUekA : dmesg - http://pastebin.com/c0XR1dJe : lsusb - http://pastebin.com/rKQybt8d
[12:17] <sagaci> dean_: i'd try lubuntu in a live cd/usb environment and if it works there, something's gone wrong in your gnome/lxde installs
[12:17] <aeon-ltd> dean_: the & is not a typo btw
[12:18] <clu3> anyone here have problems with drivers (wifi, video..) for Thinkpad laptop?
[12:18] <cruelintension> thanks a lot guys! it started working now
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> im so used to running stuff in the backgrond with &. i always use 'exit' to exit terminals. i NEVER use the close button
[12:18] <dean_> Can you see me
[12:18] <dean_> Hello?
[12:18] <aeon-ltd> dean_: yh
[12:18] <clu3> dean_ yeas
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> dean_:  yes we can.. and we have been answering you
[12:18] <anygivenname> where do I find the config of vnc server ?
[12:19] <dean_> I got dc and I tried using the alt f2 seems to have worked will I need to do that everytime?
[12:19] <cruelintension> is there any manuall or video tutor to learn linux indepth
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> anygivenname:  for the vncserver command. heres sevarl .config files that can be used. or you can give it command line options. For the built in gnome 'vino' vnc service tool.. Im not sure.
[12:19] <sagaci> cruelintension: yeah, it's a front and back pamphlet
[12:19] <aeon-ltd> cruelintension: yeah man pages :) there is no 'coverall' linux guide
[12:19] <roxdragon> Dr_Willis, no usb connected only to the message
[12:19] <Haegin> dean_: are you using the default ubuntu install?
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> dean_:  put 'nm-applet &' in your startup commands for your window manager/desktop
[12:20] <sagaci> dean_: no, he said it was a gnome install then an lubuntu-desktop install over that
[12:20] <red2kic> dean_: System --> Preferences --> Startup Applications --> Look for "Network Manager" -- If you don't see it, well, create one and put in "nm-applet --sm-disable" in the command.
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> roxdragon:  so you are saying the PC dosent boot?
[12:20] <sagaci> conflicting packages, i guess
[12:20] <dean_> I have Ubuntu Gnome installed as my OS and installed LXDE through software manager
[12:20] <anygivenname> Dr_Willis: what do u mean ?!!
[12:20] <Haegin> dean_: if you are using LXDE you will need to look into how to run something on startup with that environment
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> anygivenname:  theres several differnt 'vncservers' you could be using. Gnome has one built in, then theres others you could be using
[12:21] <sagaci> cruelintension: the best way to learn is by using it, finding answers and asking questions when you need to and trying stuff out that doesn't contain sudo
[12:21] <anygivenname> I am hoping that there could be something in the config file of vnc server that would fix the 3/4 screen view of the vnc viewer
[12:21] <Aufwind> If I put sth. in my .profile (mac) how do i "source" it?
[12:22] <cruelintension> ok sagaci i will take ur idea
[12:22] <anygivenname> i am using tight vnc server
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> anygivenname:  you are using the gnome built in vnc feature? or a specific vnc server like tightvnc, or vnc4server or tigervnc ?
[12:22] <cruelintension> once again thanks for helping out
[12:22] <dean_> couldnt find what you mentioned red2kic
[12:22] <roxdragon> yes Dr_Willis  donsen't work boot
[12:22] <sagaci> cruelintension: but in saying that there's heaps of youtube videos and websites that will offer you small tips to make your life easier
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> anygivenname:  check the tightvnc docs, and the 'vncserver' script (it should be a script) it will mention its default configs and what files it checks for . theres proberly some configs in /etc/ for it.
[12:22] <dean_> Haegin, any idea how or where?
[12:23] <red2kic> dean_: You can't find Startup Applications or Network Manager? Decide which desktop environment you like (Gnome, LXDE, KDE4, etc) and stay with it.
[12:23] <cruelintension> sure sagaci
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> roxdragon:  i would say odds are that message is not related to the issue. theres somthing else makng it halt. you just happen to be seeing that message becuase normally it scrolls by so fast you dont see it.
[12:23] <red2kic> dean_: If you can't find Network Manager -- then create one yourself with the command above.
[12:23] <Haegin> dean_: nope, I've never used LXDE - try checking the LXDE documentation or googling 'LXDE autorun'
[12:23] <dean_> I am a noob so trying diff ones red2kic
[12:23] <sagaci> cruelintension: books are often obviously outdated so you probably won't be buying many, maybe a pocket guide of linux commands if you want to try the terminal. The offical ubuntu book is not too bad, but all the information is on the internet
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> dean_:  i would say stick to GNOME . unless you have a need for lxde.
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> !manual
[12:24] <dean_> Well Gnome seems a bit slow Dr_Willis
[12:24] <Haegin> Dr_Willis: bah, what a boring way to use an OS.
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> dean_:  disable compiz if you suystem cant handle it.
[12:24] <sagaci> dean_: lxde is like gnome's hard mode
[12:24] <anygivenname> looping around
[12:24] <dean_> I thought LXDE was meant to be lightweight?
[12:24] <red2kic> dean_: I'm out of here. Good luck. :)
[12:24] <soul> hey there.. im on lubuntu.. now this is not an 'ubuntu' issue per se, but just wondering if someone knows how to (and if one can?) get rid of the black square on cairo docky? :)
[12:25] <dean_> Ok thanks red2kic
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> if i was to use lxde.. i may as well make my own desktop. :) Fluxbox + rox-filer, + a little launcher tool.
[12:25] <roxdragon> Dr_Willis,  ok and how do I risovere
[12:25] <sagaci> dean_: I thought ubuntu was meant to be user-friendly :P
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> dean_:  lxde is lightweight. and lacking in some features.
[12:25] <anygivenname> do not know which file should be edited
[12:25] <soul> Dr_Willis, +1
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> sagaci:  ubuntu is.. its users that are not computer-friendly. :)
[12:25] <sagaci> dean_: it may not always turn out the way the crowd turns you
[12:25] <dean_> Such as Dr_Willis you seem to know your stuff?
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> dean_:  i read, read, and read.. and explore...
[12:26] <aeon-ltd> Dr_Willis: +2, but only relative to other DEs
[12:26] <Haegin> dean_: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?t=111&f=8
[12:26] <soul> dean, try and be ocncise eh
[12:26] <dean_> I was using linux mint but preferred ubuntu
[12:26] <soul> concise*
[12:26] <sagaci> Dr_Willis: at least this isn't a rtfm channel
[12:26] <Haegin> dean_: that's a forum thread about what you want to do
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> sagaci:  that would be #archlinux :)
[12:26] <sagaci> Dr_Willis: I dare not enter
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> sagaci:  heh.. I still info from their wiki pages all the time.
[12:26] <soul> still... anyone know if one can get rid of the compositing problem wth lubuntu , cairo docky and vmware?
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> soul:  use a window manager other then openbox perhaps.
[12:26] <wildc4rd> mmm, any way to view streaming media (from the net) on multiple PC's on the same network without 'downloading it' multiple times, all boxes running ubuntu
[12:27] <aeon-ltd> sagaci: reading the manuals does actually solve around 40% of questions asked in channels
[12:27] <soul> ye i tried xcompmgr? metacity , some other donk
[12:27] <Haegin> Dr_Willis: ubuntu is aimed at being good for people not used to computers or linux. that doesn't mean you can't take it further and experiment with it.
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> wildc4rd:  you might be able to set up a cacheing server/proxy - but that might not work for streams.
[12:27] <soul> but ye.. I want ot keep lightweight so openbox /lxde is somethign i wish to keep.. if it is a no go then nvm , ill chuck out the cairo
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> soul:  theres other docks out there that dont use compositing i belive.
[12:28] <Haegin> soul: normally compiz requires a vaguely decent graphics thing and vmware provides a vaguely crap graphics thing so I'd guess the problem was with that
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> soul:  i also find virtualbox works better then vmware for me.
[12:28] <soul> AWN? is the only one i didnt try and yes, I was in vbox, but right now, as it stands (cos of 500 typical small errors i always can produce with combos), I am remastering in windows host
[12:28] <dean_> It appears I dont have permission for auto run
[12:29] <soul> besides, I like vmware for when I upgrade soon this computer :/
[12:29] <annihilator> Dr_Willis: what is the diffirince between vmware and virtual box
[12:29] <Haegin> dean_: what are you trying to do?
[12:29] <sagaci> aeon-ltd: yeah but IRC mods need day jobs :)
[12:29] <Haegin> dean_: as in, which command gives the permissions error?
[12:29] <dean_> I am trying to auto run nm-applet
[12:29] <soul> Haegin, yes I presume the same.. just wanted ot hceck here if it was some 'common fix' for it
[12:29] <soul> thank anyway :)
[12:29] <dean_> /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart
[12:30] <Haegin> soul: I'd try google for that - chances are someone has documented the problem at least even if they didn't solve it
[12:30] <Haegin> dean_: ok, that's because you don't have permission to write to stuff outside your home dir
[12:30] <soul> annihilator, they are two different implementations of virtualisation protocols.. hmm, like amd/intel, python/perl, ati/nvidia.. etc ;)
[12:30] <aeon-ltd> dean_: you need sudo outside your ~/
[12:30] <mmm4m5m> Hi. My question is about local mail system... Things like "sudo: This incident will be reported" and local email is sent to someone. I have installed desktop ubuntu (hardy). Does server installation have the local mail system enabled and setup? Can I easy enable it for my desktop installation? (I know a little about logcheck and similar packages. I could install such packages but I also want to take advantage if server installation ha
[12:30] <pibarnas> is there a way to get rid of this mouse freezing dute to psmouse.c??
[12:30] <Haegin> dean_: if you want to create an autostart application for nm-applet then put a nm-applet.desktop file in ~/.config/autostart/
[12:30] <soul> mmm4m5m,google for : the perfect [mail] serverhardy
[12:30]  * mmm4m5m I have postfix installer, but not setup yet
[12:31] <soul> you should find enough info there
[12:31] <pibarnas> due*
[12:31] <roxdragon> Dr_Willis,  ok and how do I solve?
[12:31] <mmm4m5m> soul: thanks, will check that
[12:31] <llutz_> mmm4m5m: dpkg-reconfigure postfix    (set up: local delivery only)
[12:31] <dean_> Now you've lost me Haegin
[12:31] <sagaci> dean_: if you're comfortable using a cli text editor, try sudo nano /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart
[12:31] <Haegin> dean_: make it look something like the snippet in http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?t=111&f=8#p283
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> annihilator:  differnt tools that do similer jobx.. I perfer vbox these days.. years back i perfered vmware
[12:31] <mmm4m5m> llutz_: thanks!
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> roxdragon:  Hard to tell what to do if you just get a system hanging . You have tried the recovery mode/options in the grub menu?
[12:32] <sagaci> vbox the winner these days
[12:32] <soul> Dr_Willis, yes indeed, vmware is  behind atm vbox on linux hosts... but still is an overall better product (on windows as i happened ot log in on now)
[12:32] <Haegin> dean_: press alt+f2 and type 'gedit ~/.config/autostart/nm-applet.desktop' in the box
[12:32] <soul> still need this f***** windows piece of go***** sh*T due to the odd game !
[12:32] <Haegin> that should run a text-editor which will let you edit a file
[12:32] <soul> god i hate them, not gonna get into that now though
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> soul:  i basically gave up om vmware a year+ ago. havent tried it since.
[12:32] <soul> Dr_Willis, opposite fo rme, was on vbox till past months on vmware, now i like both for certain situations
[12:33] <soul> vmware just has a bette roverall interface imo
[12:33] <soul> more informative
[12:33] <soul> and responsive
[12:33] <soul> (but i like both)
[12:33] <dean_> Unable to execute Haegin
[12:33] <soul> sigh, the only thing though im looking forward too, is the proper virtualisation of gpu's :/
[12:34] <annihilator> lol soul
[12:34] <dean_> Failed to execute child process "gedit~/.config/autostart/nm-applet.desktop" (No such file or directory)
[12:34] <soul> anyway, back ot hacking this lxde thi gy ^^
[12:34] <soul> lol what annihilator , my rant on MS?
[12:34] <soul> ;)
[12:34] <annihilator> hey sould you eat any souls lately?
[12:34] <annihilator> yea
[12:34] <soul> I tend to annihilate them more annihilator  ;)
[12:35] <annihilator> i would like to see a better virt. on gpus as well.....
[12:35]  * annihilator like soul eater
[12:35] <soul> it'll be there (as in a significant step in about a year)
[12:35] <pahnin> hi I'm on live cd ubuntu 10.10 anyway to record my installation
[12:35] <annihilator> at least they alow you to change the memory for the vid card
[12:35] <dean_> Haegin, this is what I got Failed to execute child process "gedit~/.config/autostart/nm-applet.desktop" (No such file or directory)
[12:35] <soul> another bottleneck is disk I/O but ah well, vm's still are a bl***y gift from god tbh ^^
[12:36] <annihilator> that used to not be there a few years back
[12:37] <sagaci> dean_: space inbetween gedit and the ~
[12:37] <soul> next upgrade ill go the 870 chip i think, with a SSD , 6-8 ram and tbh, I'm getting too old for playig often games, so all in all I dont bother that much.. it's just when we can't enable even somewhat 'basic' effects which gets to me
[12:37] <Haegin> dean_: ok, open nautilus and make the directory .config
[12:37] <Haegin> then inside that make the directory autostart
[12:38] <Haegin> then inside that make a text file called nm-applet.desktop and edit it
[12:38] <annihilator> soul you can never be to old to play games
[12:38] <cyrano_> and another gdm crash
[12:38] <annihilator> especially ubuntu games
[12:38] <ubiquitous1980> microsoft windows
[12:38] <sagaci> ubiquitous1980: what about it
[12:39] <dean_> Where do I make the directory Haegin
[12:39] <ubiquitous1980>  just thought I would say that...
[12:40] <soul> annihilator, I know.. but its more time than age, and due to society being as it is, time availability is loosely proportional to age
[12:40] <soul> ;x
[12:41] <annihilator> so when you hit 60 your play more games?
[12:41] <annihilator> lol
[12:41] <dean_> I give up lol
[12:41] <soul> kinda a bit like the age of a fit bird is inversely proportional to one's age ;)
[12:41] <soul> prolly, annihilator
[12:41] <annihilator> you can fit as a bird till the day you die
[12:41] <llutz_> !ot
[12:41] <soul> unless by then, all inet is virtualised, so gaming/surfing/computing are all the same soup ^^
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> Gives up due to a typo in his command.. oh well..
[12:42] <soul> lol .. aaah poor Dr_Willis  :)
[12:42] <mynameistux> having massive problems with libgtk-1.2
[12:42] <annihilator> true i could just see all of our brains being transfered to ubuntu 50.10
[12:42] <annihilator> lol
[12:42] <soul> anyway, enough chitchat i think in a busy cvhan... Im now forced to go through and uninstall all the dependencies
[12:42] <annihilator> i am stuck d/ling a windows file for ubuntu
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> back to reading up on the gnome-do alternative Kupfer --> http://live.gnome.org/Kupfer/Tips
[12:43] <mynameistux> when trying to launch epsxe I get error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot read file data: Error 21
[12:43] <annihilator> well kubuntu but no one is really in kubuntu
[12:44] <mynameistux> I've symlinked /usr/lib/libgtk-2.0 to /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2
[12:44] <sagaci> annihilator: how big is the file
[12:44] <annihilator> not exactly sure it should be aroung 3megs tops
[12:44] <soul> hmm, btw.. is there a 'dockly' someone knows off, which works with lxde in a vm then?
[12:45] <everyrainyday> can some one tell me what's these commands for?: setsebool -P smbd_disable_trans 1
[12:45] <rdw200169> mynameistux: no kidding!! gtk-2.0 is not = to gtk-1.2!!
[12:45] <soul> i just saw someoen say one could use gnome-do and have it as a docky but dont think thats for lxde but gnome
[12:45] <soul> anyway, i hate gnome-do (its so borky on my lucid 64)
[12:45] <mynameistux> well I can't FIND gtk-1.2
[12:45] <sagaci> i <3 docky
[12:45] <mynameistux> can you direct me to the original file
[12:45] <umair> why the F do my ATI drivers make my desktop jerky
[12:45] <soul> there is your answer mynameistux : do a find recursively and look for gtk
[12:45] <mynameistux> libgtk-1.2
[12:46] <umair> while the stock keep it ok
[12:46] <soul> cos umair , ATI suck when it comes to open source ;p
[12:46] <mynameistux> GTK IS EVERYWHERE
[12:46] <umair> ATI has made my life hell
[12:46] <soul> with "libgtk-1.2" obviously mynameistux
[12:46] <umair> soul you maybe right
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> soul:  using kupfer here now instead of docky/gnome-do.   the 2 should work in most any WM.
[12:46] <everyrainyday> what's this for? setsebool -P smbd_disable_trans 1
[12:46]  * annihilator <3 his nvidia gpu
[12:46] <mynameistux> so "find libgtk-1.2"
[12:46] <umair> but with the stock ubuntu drivers my card is over heating any reason for that soul
[12:47] <mynameistux> will that search my whole system?
[12:47] <soul> no, I am right... ATI has atm some horsehead on nvidia but only in some gaming views.. in terms of broadness , they barely released their specs recently pfff
[12:47] <everyrainyday> it's for sharing but i'm not sure what does it do? setsebool -P smbd_disable_trans 1
[12:47] <soul> hmm mynameistux  one sec:
[12:47] <soul> no it wont , give me a sec
[12:47] <mynameistux> this god damn library is giving me the ****
[12:48] <cyrano_> Hi, I've recently had an issue with some programs where when i mouse over them, gdm crashes. These specific applications consistently do this, as i mouse over them, when i run them. The list includes VLC Player 1.1.4, burg-manager 1.0, clementine 0.5.3, and MountManager 0.2.3
[12:48] <annihilator> soul even in gaming nvidia is doing good and in ubuntu/kubuntu nvidia has alreasy seemed to do good
[12:48] <annihilator> and as far as my d/l problem i fixed it
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> cyrano_:  mouse over them? You mean the X server crashes back to GDM?
[12:48] <cyrano_> yea as far as gaming im running fallout new vegas in maverick
[12:48] <umair> annihilator .. i would go with ATI as far is quality of hardware is concerned .. my nvidia GPU's died frequently but with LINUX ATI SUX
[12:48] <cyrano_> @Dr_Wiliis correct
[12:48] <soul> mynameistux,  look up find -help , although I can't see the recursive option :  at the root /, you do a reursive search, but ya.. I havent been on linux for bloody ages tbh
[12:49] <annihilator> the file i am d/ling is not available
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> cyrano_:  thats not really GDm crashing then.  could be a video driver issue.
[12:49] <annihilator> i tried d/ling it inwindows....errored out
[12:49] <annihilator> umair: it depends on the card you have too
[12:50] <soul> cyrano_, I havent pld a game other than hmm tetris in linux haha... hmm so its getting that goopd enough, those BA*****RD MS LOOBBBYING MOTH****FU****S then with their corrupt bribery is loosenign the grip on hardware manufgacturers??
[12:50] <cyrano_> ouch
[12:50] <rdw200169> mynameistux: merry christmas: https://launchpad.net/~adamkoczur/+archive/gtk1.2?field.series_filter=maverick
[12:50] <bazhang> soul, watch the language
[12:50] <NineTeen67Comet> Hello; I've installed Gentoo (/dev/sda5) through this Ubuntu installation. I ran sudo update-grub in my Ubuntu installation and it appeared to find the XP install, this Ubuntu install and the Gentoo install (Found Gentoo Base System release 1.12.14 on /dev/sda5) but when I re-boot there is nothing about Gentoo in the menu. Help?
[12:51] <umair> annihilator: i had cards from different companies .. but i just can explain this problem with ATI i use default drivers and my desktop and videos arent jerky but they overheat .. when i download the drivers from ATI the heating problem is gone but everything is jerky
[12:51] <soul> umair, I personally always was happier with my nvidia's.. ati cards always had some kind of glitches, but ye, I see they apparently have taklen over a bit (except for the gtx 480 ;p)
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> It will be interesting to see what ATI/Nvidia do  with the move to 'wayland'
 I think I owe you a beer
[12:51] <cyrano_> Dr_Willis: i didn't have the issue with lucid and i was running the same driver at the time i only recently in the past few hours upgraded the nvidia driver
[12:51] <con-man> uhuhuh
[12:51] <con-man> huhuhu
[12:51] <con-man> huhuhuhu
[12:51] <con-man> uhu
[12:51] <con-man> u
[12:51] <FloodBot4> con-man: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:52] <soul> sorry bazhang  though the *'s did the trick.. I just have some very personal reasons for hating them <insert many **** here>
[12:52] <NineTeen67Comet> Dr_Willis: I read in the last Linux Format that nVidia had said they do not plan on supporting Wayland .. Kinda spooked about that move myself ..
[12:52] <annihilator> i agrea soul  umair imo it has to deal with the driver integration into linux
[12:52] <bazhang> soul, no. no use of * either. just don't.
[12:52] <CookiesnMilkz> I've heard that it's better to use open source drivers vs proprietary drivers for better functionality, is that true in ATI's case?
[12:52] <con-man> FloodBot4, sorry, it's early, I'm tired, and in pain from having my appendix out.  Also, I'm talking to a bot.  :S
[12:52] <soul> got ya
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> NineTeen67Comet:  they can always change their mind.. we will ahve to wait and see.
[12:52] <soul> ye, that bot doesnt really understand jokes.. it asked me what colour is a blue butterfly, in whic ni replied donkey?
[12:53]  * annihilator wants to spam the *
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> CookiesnMilkz:  for many ati cards these days.. you cant use their Properitary drivers any more.
[12:53] <NineTeen67Comet> Dr_Willis: Yeah .. waiting has never been my strong point .. heheheh ..
[12:53] <umair> Thanks soul and annihilator .. but i believe i need to go and pee on ATI now
[12:53] <annihilator> lol
[12:53] <cyrano_> ati doesn't do a swell job keeping up their drivers as my laptop driver is not compatible with the latest kernels install on ubuntu
[12:54] <cyrano_> im sorry not kernel but xorg
[12:54]  * NineTeen67Comet Never have like the ATI (or AMD) folks anyhow ..
[12:54] <annihilator> i like that about nvidia
[12:54] <soul> CookiesnMilkz, sometimes yes.. I do not have specific examples, LOL umair.. nah... nvidia and ati turned out back in the day when nvidia were the kings.. to have both their specific advantages the other chipsets just wont do or have... so its hard to say one or the other
[12:54] <annihilator> i can even use nvidia drivers for my laptop
[12:54] <umair> CookiesnMilkz .. true that ask me ... the proprietary driver over heat my card
[12:54] <umair> now who the F told ATI to not test their drivers on Ubuntu or make them so as to burn the persons card
[12:54] <annihilator> no more reling on dell or ubuntu resp to get my driver
[12:55] <annihilator> microsoft
[12:55] <annihilator> umair micrsoft told ati that
[12:55] <NineTeen67Comet> Anyone know a trick to get grub2 to actually write the grub.cfg file to include the other OS it sees? (It notes my gentoo installation; but doesn't populate grub2 with that information) ..
[12:55] <annihilator> could resist that
[12:55] <soul> I think uu have to reach into 5770 before ati has a few cards which r better deals than nvidia, but anythign below and nvidia is overall better imo...
[12:56] <umair> annihilator .. Forever Alone Microsoft will be one day :)
[12:56] <soul> upwards ati has a horse head adv. up till the 460+
[12:56] <meatbun> i hope distro upgrade does md5sum on the download first...
[12:56] <Tagadam> hi all
[12:56] <annihilator> not even the 5770 work that well unless you are running windows only