[17:45] <bazhang> dawkirst, this channel is for ubuntu support, general questions such as you are asking would be better addressed in #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:45] <bazhang> Alex12, whats not found. please be clear
[17:45] <dawkirst> bazhang, ok, understood. Thanks.
[17:45] <Alex12> flash-aid
[17:45] <Alex12>  not found
[17:45] <sda1986> yea, me too, that's why i asked here. Hail mary
[17:45] <bazhang> Alex12, where did you check for it
[17:46] <Muphrid> Alex12: https://addons.mozilla.org/pt-BR/firefox/addon/flash-aid/?src=ss
[17:46] <Alex12> sudo apt-get install flash-aid
[17:46] <Alex12> hey i use chromium
[17:46] <bazhang> Alex12, its a firefox addon so its not apt-get
[17:46] <Alex12> nono
[17:46] <Alex12> in foefox always low fps in video
[17:46] <usuario_> ola
[17:47] <bazhang> Alex12, there is no super high speed flash player
[17:47] <Alex12> in chromium only normal
[17:47] <usuario_> tu madreeeeeeeeeeee la putaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[17:47] <xangua> Alex12: as in any other browser, flash in general sucks
[17:47] <Muphrid> Alex12: maybe you should try the official chrome since it has flash bundled in its latest version
[17:47] <xangua> !ops | usuario_
[17:47] <Alex12> i see many hotos in google
[17:47] <Alex12> help plz
[17:48] <Alex12> Muph there are also not very fast work
[17:48] <Alex12> but better other flash plaers of standart Ubuntu
[17:48] <Muphrid> Alex12: what do you use flash for then? only youtube?
[17:49] <Alex12> not only
[17:49] <Alex12> i want online anime
[17:49] <bazhang> !ot | Alex12
[17:49] <Muphrid> Alex12: your last option then is an script like this http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/87011
[17:49] <Alex12> how install high speed flash plz?
[17:50] <bazhang> Alex12, stop asking. it does NOT exist
[17:50] <tyler> Okay, I have some SERIOUS issues.
[17:50] <by313> Блин ток поставил на нетбук 12.10 не могу понять туит или нет... Может кто подскажет новичку какую линуху на нетбук поставить?
[17:50] <xangua> Alex12: there is not such thing as you have been told all this time
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[17:50] <bazhang> by313, #ubuntu-ru
[17:50] <Guest26181> I'm trying to install a software called Watchtower Library
[17:50] <Guest26181> And when it installs with Wine
[17:50] <Nambarc> Hi, is this where I can get general help with Ubuntu?
[17:51] <Surkow|laptop> yes, don't ask to ask
[17:51] <Guest26181> Text for Saturday, December 29, 2012
[17:51] <Guest26181> ◀◀week  ◀day  today  day▸  week▸▸
[17:51] <Guest26181> Squares come up
[17:51] <Guest26181> Where letters are
[17:51] <Guest26181> How do I fix that?
[17:51] <xangua> !appdb | Guest26181
[17:51] <Guest26181> appdb?
[17:51] <Guest26181> okay...
[17:52] <bazhang> Guest26181, #winehq for specific app help
[17:52] <KeyboardNotFound> in one moment my mouse doesn't work, my keyboard doesn't type, why ? after logout and again login all works normal, i use xubuntu 12.10
[17:52] <skai-falkorr> bazhang: and for unity specific questions?
[17:52] <Alex12> xangua i example watch in vlc plugin in browser videos and have high fps
[17:52] <Alex12> Muphrid how use it?
[17:52] <bazhang> skai-falkorr, all kinds, whats the unity issue
[17:53] <skai-falkorr> bazhang:  i have some problem with unity. unity test says http://paste.ubuntu.com/1476368/ , but compiz (core) - Info: Unity is not supported by your hardware. Enabling software rendering instead (slow). intel x4500MHD Ubuntu 12.10. what should i do?
[17:53] <skai-falkorr> bazhang: that issue
[17:53] <Muphrid> Alex12: not sure in chromium, thought it was just clicking install
[17:54] <bazhang> skai-falkorr, does additional drivers offer anything for that? there was an xorg-edgers some time ago specifically for intel gpu that did not have support that way, but as its a PPA its at your own risk entirely
[17:54] <Alex12> Muph its for all sites will work?
[17:55] <Muphrid> Alex12: in the same page it says the supported websites
[17:55] <skai-falkorr> bazhang: jockey dont offer anything for me. you think xswat ppa for intel can help? well.. thats not gonna kill me if i try^_^
[17:56] <Alex12> ok thx i will try!
[17:56] <Alex12> bb!
[17:56] <SunMoonStar> which directories get replaced when you do a system update? Surely not /usr/local or /opt ?
[17:58] <bazhang> SunMoonStar, update? or version upgrade
[17:58] <SunMoonStar> bazhang: i guess I mean version upgrade
[17:59] <bazhang> SunMoonStar, PPA are disabled, for one
[17:59] <SunMoonStar> I want to know if those directories are safe to put stuff that it won't get overridden
[17:59] <bazhang> such as /opt ?
[17:59] <SunMoonStar> yes
[17:59] <KeyboardNotFound> in one moment my mouse doesn't work, my keyboard doesn't type, why ? after logout and again login all works normal, i use xubuntu 12.10
[17:59] <bazhang> that would surely be safe
[17:59] <SunMoonStar> i am tryign to figure out whether to put my google app engine sdk in /opt/gae or /usr/local/gae
[18:00] <Muphrid> SunMoonStar: either of them
[18:00] <SunMoonStar> and i will probably break the path conventions by not using the path/bin or path/doc things either but whatever, I'm just trying to learn and put thigns int he right place as I go along
[18:00] <Muphrid> they dont get "replaced", only upgraded
[18:02] <SunMoonStar> in the /opt/ section of the hierarchy manual, it says programs meant to be run directly by the user should be placed in /opt/<package>/bin
[18:02] <SunMoonStar> why 'must'?
[18:02] <SunMoonStar> I don't want to move files from the way they are placed in the SDK package
[18:03] <Muphrid> SunMoonStar: where did you see must
[18:03] <SunMoonStar> Programs to be invoked by users must be located in the directory /opt/<package>/bin or under the /opt/<provider> hierarchy. If the package includes UNIX manual pages, they must be located in /opt/<package>/share/man or under the /opt/<provider> hierarchy, and the same substructure as /usr/share/man must be used.
[18:03] <SunMoonStar> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE14
[18:03] <SunMoonStar> in the opt section
[18:04] <ichat> just a quick question... im a bit confused about...
[18:04] <ichat> my laptop (new) comes with  win8 and secure boot...
[18:04] <ichat> so first i did was disbable sec boot,   now in the  usermanual   it says that for  legacy win 32 bit versions i should change my  system to bios / legacy mode...
[18:04] <ichat> does that apply to ubuntu 32 bit as well?
[18:04] <FloodBot1> ichat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:05] <Catbuntu> Hey
[18:05] <b33nj> suggest me a good book about linux commands
[18:05] <wad> When I "apt-get install mysql-server", it doesn't ask me to supply a root password for the database. And so I don't have access. Googling around hasn't helped. Are there supposed to be docs somewhere for what I'm supposed to do with a package after the "apt-get install" step?
[18:05] <SunMoonStar> b33nj: http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
[18:05] <Muphrid> SunMoonStar: I believe that in /usr/bin you can only hold a binary executable whereas in opt you can hold a folder
[18:06] <b33nj> SunMoonStar, i have already read half that book
[18:06] <SunMoonStar> b33nj: not good enough? I'm halfway as well
[18:06] <keoma> ciao
[18:06] <b33nj> SunMoonStar, i do not understand some moments
[18:06] <SunMoonStar> Muphrid: so it is basically saying that it is strongly suggested to not put non executable stuff in bin?
[18:06] <keoma> !list
[18:06] <SunMoonStar> Muphrid: in /opt/<package>/bin i mean?
[18:07] <b33nj> SunMoonStar, also the apt system is not fully explained
[18:07] <SunMoonStar> b33nj: I think there is nothing better than that book
[18:07] <tag> hi, i when i boot from a drive with no boot folder, i still get grub, how is this happening?
[18:07] <Muphrid> SunMoonStar: I do as I said, I put big foldered packages like sagemath in opt and single binaries in /usr/bin like youtube-dl and small apps
[18:07] <SunMoonStar> b33nj: but I could be wrong
[18:07] <b33nj> SunMoonStar, have you read that book and understand everything?
[18:07] <SunMoonStar> Muphrid: what's the diff between /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin
[18:07] <SunMoonStar> b33nj: so far yes, i'm halfway through
[18:08] <ichat> tag you probably installed grub in your  boot reccort...
[18:08] <tyler_> Hey, guys
[18:08] <Muphrid> SunMoonStar: in BSD /usr/local/bin is for user-installed apps and /usr/bin is for OS-installed apps, in linux i think there is none
[18:08] <tag> ichat: how do i clear the boot record?
[18:08] <tyler_> How do I check my computer's specs?
[18:08] <tyler_> dxdiag on windows
[18:08] <tyler_> How on Linux?
[18:08] <SunMoonStar> Muphrid: thanks
[18:08] <tyler_> I wanna run a digital diagnostic
[18:08] <tyler_> Anyone?
[18:09] <ichat> tag depeds on the operating system you are running now or want to use here after
[18:09] <tyler_> Ubutnu
[18:09] <tyler_> *Ubuntu
[18:09] <b33nj> SunMoonStar, SunMoonStar, i have downloaded unix in a nutshell
[18:09] <tag> ichat: it's just a storage HDD
[18:09] <tyler_> Nobody wants to help?
[18:10] <SunMoonStar> tyler_: try cat /proc/cpuinfo ?
[18:10] <Muphrid> tyler_: you mean like HardInfo?
[18:10] <Muphrid> HardInfo would show all specs possible
[18:10] <SunMoonStar> b33nj: how is that?
[18:10] <tyler_> I mean the equivalent of dxdiag on windows
[18:10] <b33nj> SunMoonStar, i have not unrared it yet
[18:10] <tyler_> 800 mhz ...
[18:10] <tyler_> My laptop fails lol
[18:10] <ichat> tag, its still depends on the os that your running...  google  ¨ clear mbr ubuntu ´  will help you  find the ubuntu way,   fixboot  windows   will help you find the windows way
[18:12] <b33nj> SunMoonStar, in unix in a nutshell author writes about bash
[18:12] <Muphrid> b33nj: have you seen this http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/coreutils.html
[18:12] <tag> ichat: will clearing the first 512 bytes affect my ability to access data on the drive?
[18:12] <bfortified> can someone help me please with a failed deja-dub restore? trying to restore using duplicity but not sure which file to point to. Obviosly the folder it get backs up to is filled with .tar.gz files.
[18:13] <SunMoonStar> does PATH follow symlinks?
[18:13] <b33nj> Muphrid, not yet
[18:13] <ichat> tag...  im not sure
[18:14] <Muphrid> SunMoonStar: you want to link opt to usr/bin?
[18:15] <SunMoonStar> Muphrid: I was going to install google app engine to /opt/google_app_engine and make a symlink from /home/google_app_engine to /opt/google_app_engine but was wondering if I have to add /opt/google_app_engine to the PATH seeing how (i think) /home/ is already in the path
[18:15] <SunMoonStar> i mean /home/maks
[18:15] <SunMoonStar> maks is my user name
[18:16] <Muphrid> SunMoonStar: you can leave it in your home or put in your opts then 'ln -s /path/to/binary/binary /usr/local/bin/binary'
[18:16] <skai-falkorr> bazhang: nope. ppa wont help
[18:17] <Emanon> Hey all, I'm having a couple of problems that I can't find a solution for elsewhere so here I am. First: When I start a program in WINE or Steam it forces it onto my laptop's monitor instead of the external I want (and have always been able to use before) this is a recent event and I haven't changed anything of note to precipitate the change in behavior. Second: my wireless headset has stopped working. It shows up in the sound panel and
[18:19] <jbrq> hi! join tf2 game <IP_ADDRESS> (free to play)
[18:19] <Muphrid> Emanon: is sound working with other devices?
[18:20] <rincewind> !poll
[18:20] <Emanon> Yes Muphrid. Whenever I hit "test" it just plays on the internal speakers regardless of whether I have them selected or not.
[18:20] <Ronalds_M> gmail, youtube and some other webapps doesn't show, when installed
[18:20] <rincewind> !poll
[18:20] <Ronalds_M> anybody knows why
[18:21] <k1l_> jbrq: no advertising in here, please
[18:26] <Emanon> I kind of need the headset to work (it did last night but apparently something changed while I was sleeping) because I use it for Rosetta Stone.
[18:27] <solaries> how do I get the reason for the last system restart ?
[18:27] <solaries> I would like to send a mail from my server using Python
[18:28] <D_Russ> can someone please tell me how to reclaim the space i created when deleting the windows partition?? i ran the live secure disk with osreover and when i try to expand my ubuntu partition with gparted it will not allow me to go larger but i have 660gb available of unused disk space
[18:28] <k1l_> D_Russ: is the swap partition mounted?
[18:28] <D_Russ> i dont know
[18:28] <D_Russ> how do i unmount it if it is?
[18:29] <k1l_> some live system mount a swap when they find one on the harddisk. that could block partitions to be changed.
[18:29] <D_Russ> ohh i c
[18:29] <D_Russ> know of a work around
[18:30] <D_Russ> k1l_: do you know how i can unmount it if that is my problem?
[18:31] <k1l_> D_Russ: rightclick on that partition and unmount it
[18:31] <D_Russ> option is not there.
[18:31] <bazhang> D_Russ, you are using the live cd or gparted live cd , right?
[18:32] <D_Russ> secured live cd with osremover
[18:32] <bazhang> D_Russ, well with a gparted live cd or ubuntu live cd its no issue
[18:32] <D_Russ> ok i will try a gparted live cd
[18:32] <D_Russ> thanks
[18:33] <k1l_> D_Russ: maybe its a cd specific thing. better ask their support then
[18:33] <bazhang> distrowatch.com has the link
[18:33] <D_Russ> ok cool
[18:33] <D_Russ> thanks guys
[18:34] <xomniverse> every time I try to burn a DVD using either Brasero or xfburn, the burn fails right at the end. Burning CDs seems fine.
[18:35] <Shogoot> Hi i installed xampp(yes im on a windoes os, but the problem can be solved crossplatformed) ann mysql workbench and im trying to connect to my mysql db from my pc to the pc on my network that has the mysql server.
[18:35] <Shogoot> Im using a Dynamic DNS program to manage the dynamic ip issue from my provider. The problem is that i cant connect to the mysql db trough workbench.
[18:35] <Shogoot> Im trying: http://myname.no-ip.org/phpmyadmin  but its failing to connect....    any ideas?
[18:35] <Mech0z> anyone know how to fix this that happens when I do apt-get install -f http://www.gratisimage.dk/graphic/images/2012/December/29/CABA_50DF371C.jpg
[18:35] <bekks> Shogoot: Why dont you just use your local IP when being in your local LAN?
[18:36] <Shogoot> bekks, because i will be developing also from outside my local network. In my spare time on work for example :)
[18:36] <bekks> Shogoot: Then you have to try to connect from outside your LAN. You cant test it from inside.
[18:37] <Muphrid> Mech0z: did you install anything from a ppa?
[18:37] <Shogoot> even if im using the myname.no-ip org ? wont that loop back to my machien anyways?
[18:37] <freshstart> does anybody if there is a program that shows date/time(and milliseconds)?
[18:37] <Mech0z> Muphrid I dont remember
[18:37] <k1l_> freshstart: date?
[18:38] <Muphrid> Mech0z: you have a version higher than the one in repository, did you apt-get update before?
[18:39] <k1l_> freshstart: date can actually dispay nanoseconds. so that is what you are looking for, imho
[18:39] <freshstart> k1l_: i ll give you an example wait
[18:40] <freshstart> k1l_: 20:11:20:16:22:16:34
[18:40] <Mech0z> Muphrid did an apt-get update earlier today, so that should be fine? does this make more sense http://www.gratisimage.dk/graphic/images/2012/December/29/03C7_50DF38EB.jpg
[18:40] <MishaX2> I don't want to start reporting stuff, but I'm really wondering how this works. So for example I can buy a https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/quantal/power-off/ utility, which costs like 3 bucks and I could write it in like 10 minutes. It is apparently in the ubuntu software center and is under the gnu gpl license. Shouldn't I be allowed to see the code. Furthermore why are we promoting the whole idea of payin
[18:40] <MishaX2> g for these applications without being able to look at the source? I could then just as well put windows on my computer...
[18:40] <Shogoot> bekks, well your right. im using now the internal ip and it works like  a charm. I will have to test from outside the no-ip.org ip anotehr day :) thanks
[18:41] <Muphrid> Mech0z: yes, perhaps you could purge these depends packages if theyre not a depend for something else
[18:41] <Muphrid> or reinstall
[18:42] <Muphrid> Mech0z: install or open Synaptic, then check the version of these packages there
[18:43] <elx> Guys what is the most user friendly chkdsk equivalent on ubuntu?
[18:43] <k1l_> Mech0z: you have some ppa which have some python packages?
[18:44] <Mech0z> sabnzbdplus must run on python I recon?
[18:44] <Mech0z> same with 2 addons
[18:44] <Muphrid> elx: the equivalent is fsck and is not needed in desktop use
[18:44] <Muphrid> it runs at boot time
[18:44] <elx> can i use it from terminal?
[18:45] <Muphrid> elx: I dont know but you dont need to, it runs on every boot
[18:45] <k1l_> elx: dont run it on mounted partitions
[18:46] <elx> I have been reading regarding my partition error that gparted is giving me and people advice to use chkdsk afew times
[18:46] <rom> exit
[18:46] <elx> when trying to shrink my secondary partition...
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> elx  have you used gparted from a live cd or usb?
[18:46] <Muphrid> Mech0z: what is the content of your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[18:47] <Emanon> So no joy for my audio and video problems?
[18:47] <Mech0z> Muphrid one moment, I am trying to reboot
[18:48] <elx> i'm using directly from ubuntu, but thought i would do a checkup of the partition and if still get errors then create a live cd
[18:48] <Muphrid> Emanon: when did the headphone stop working?
[18:48] <Emanon> Sometime when I was sleeping last night.
[18:48] <Muphrid> out of nowhere?
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> elx  no, use a live cd or usb to shrink partitions
[18:48] <Emanon>  Muphrid It was working immediately before I went to sleep and when I woke up it was not working.
[18:49] <elx> MonkeyDust, Ok thanks!
[18:49] <Mech0z> Muphrid http://pastebin.com/avqeEWru
[18:49] <k1l_> Mech0z: you are using a PPA from jcfp. so better ask him how his PPA ruins your package managment
[18:49] <Muphrid> Emanon: that is weird, I assume changing ports, rebooting or replugging didnt work right
[18:49] <Emanon> So sometime between 01:00 and 09:00 today.
[18:50] <Mech0z> k1l_ can that be changed?
[18:50] <Ronalds_M> hello
[18:50] <Ronalds_M> :>
[18:50] <k1l_> Mech0z: you can use ppa-purge for removing the ppa and the ppa-packages
[18:51] <Emanon> Muphrid: But it's being detected it just refuses to stay selected.
[18:51] <Ronalds_M> can I make programms open and show on top of the dock in unity?
[18:51] <Emanon> I'll try changing ports, hold on.
[18:51] <Ronalds_M> it could be a nice tweak
[18:52] <Emanon> Changing ports did nothing.
[18:52] <Mech0z> k1l_ does that mean that sabnzbdplus will be removed if I do that (The app, not the ppa)
[18:54] <Emanon> +1 for Ronalds_M We need to be able to make apps overlap the top bar.
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> !brainstorm
[18:55] <Ronalds_M> it could be nice, if new programms would show up in top, not where you need to search them
[18:55] <k1l_> Mech0z: yes. that removes the ppa packages aswell
[18:55] <TopGear> Hi there.
[18:56] <k1l_> Mech0z: but sabnzbdplus is in the official ubuntu sources
[18:56] <TopGear> Someone with conky knowledge?
[18:57] <bazhang> TopGear, read the ubuntuforums wiki on it?
[18:57] <Muphrid> Emanon: can you give a screen capture of the selection dialog?
[18:57] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, any1 knows with proprieties I can render a video on PiTiVi to run properly in a Nokia 5130c?
[18:57] <WeThePeople> idk what i did but ubuntu 12.04 wants to mount the cd rom first, i have to press s to skip, how do i remove this prompt?
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> !anyone | TopGear
[18:58] <Emanon> Muphrid: Sure, sec.
[18:58] <bazhang> CrazyGangster, try handbrake to convert it
[18:58] <WeThePeople> topgear, do you want to edit things?
[18:58] <SecretFire> is it true that virii don't effect linux?
[18:59] <bazhang> !virus | SecretFire
[18:59] <TopGear> Alright.
[18:59] <SecretFire> I thought so
[18:59] <TopGear> Well, I want to monitor the diskusage of an entire harddrive, but how do I do that? /dev/sda, /sda, /hda doesn't work in Conky.
[18:59] <Muphrid> SecretFire: as long as you stay in the repository and do not run obscure shell scripts if find on random websites
[19:00] <Walex> TopGear: 'df'?
[19:00] <Muphrid> but you need to play an active role for it to affect you
[19:00] <CrazyGangster> bazhang: I will try but in that way i have to render the same video 2times, right?
[19:00] <SecretFire> the reason I ask
[19:00] <Muphrid> you dont get anything simply by browsing the web
[19:00] <Mech0z> k1l_ I cant seem to install ppa-purge due to the same issue
[19:00] <SecretFire> is because my friend had problems with windows having trojan so I formatted and installed xubuntu but they think the virus is still there
[19:00] <Muphrid> Mech0z: then temporarily remove all these packages and reinstall if possible
[19:00] <Mech0z> any other way I can remove it?
[19:01] <bazhang> SecretFire, did you have an ubuntu support issue question?
[19:01] <TopGear> Walex: How did you think of doing that?
[19:01] <Mech0z> how
[19:01] <Muphrid> either via synaptic or by apt-get purge package1 package2 package3 ... packagen
[19:01] <Emanon> Muphrid: http://i.imgur.com/yg0E8.jpg
[19:01] <SecretFire> has anyone got openmw to run? I can't seem to find a working version of it
[19:01] <bazhang> SecretFire, if you formatted and overwrote the partition, then installed ubuntu/xubuntu it cannot still be there
[19:02] <SecretFire> bazhang : I know that, but they don't :)
[19:02] <SecretFire> lol
[19:02] <bazhang> SecretFire, what is openmw
[19:02] <SecretFire> open source implementation of morrowind
[19:02] <SecretFire> elder scrolls
[19:02] <bazhang> SecretFire, lets stay on topic please to actual support
[19:03] <Emanon> Muphrid: It detects it, even allows the in-line volume control works but flat refuses to use it as a source.
[19:03] <Ronalds_M> anybody runs CS 1.6 on widescrean with wine?
[19:03] <Ronalds_M> :D
[19:04] <Emanon> Well, not "inline" per se but on ear.
[19:07] <Muphrid> Emanon: see if the package 'pavucontrol' is of any help
[19:07] <Muphrid> your issue is weird
[19:08] <Tex_Nick> Ronalds_M : your question needs to be more specific ... also note that wine has a support channel #winehq
[19:09] <Ronalds_M> @Tex_Nick tnx
[19:11] <Emanon> Muphrid: Pavu displays my headset in the configuration tab but nowhere else.
[19:12] <Emanon> Everywhere else it's just my built-in audio and my hdmi audio out.
[19:13] <D_Russ> k1l: no luck with gparted live
[19:13] <D_Russ> it still wont allow me to expand it
[19:13] <D_Russ> and there is no option for unmount on rightclick
[19:14] <Muphrid> Emanon: also check gnome-alsamixer then
[19:14] <Muphrid> otherwise I have no clue lol
[19:14] <D_Russ> can someone please tell me how to reclaim the space i created when deleting the windows partition?? i ran the live secure disk with osreover and when i try to expand my ubuntu partition with gparted it will not allow me to go larger but i have 660gb available of unused disk space
[19:14] <D_Russ> gparted live isnt working
[19:14] <D_Russ> for me anyway
[19:16] <Emanon> gnome-alsamixer displays a "USB Mixer" but no option to select it as the input/output source.
[19:18] <Emanon> I guess when I finish wiping my portable drive I'll reboot and hope that works.
[19:19] <Emanon> Any ideas for forcing wine and Steam to open on the display I want it to or should I just go to #winehq and #steam (or whatever steam support is)?
[19:19] <D_Russ> you dont need wine for steam anymore
[19:19] <D_Russ> there is a linux version
[19:19] <Emanon> I'm not using steam through wine.
[19:19] <D_Russ> ohh ok
[19:19] <Emanon> I'm having similar problems on both steam AND wine
[19:20] <D_Russ> sorry cant help you with that
[19:21] <Emanon> Maybe I can do something in the compiz window controll extension.
[19:23] <Tex_Nick> Emanon : #steamlug is probably the best channel for steam
[19:23] <Emanon> Thanks I'll try there after I'm done futzing with Compiz.
[19:24] <Emanon> Doesn't look like Compiz has an option to force certain applications to certain monitors at will.
[19:25] <termitor> hi
[19:25] <termitor> what is this bug http://pastebin.com/VfF032Db ?
[19:26] <ThinkT510> termitor: are you using btrfs?
[19:27] <D_Russ> can someone please tell me how to reclaim the space i created when deleting the windows partition?? i ran the live secure disk with osreover and when i try to expand my ubuntu partition with gparted it will not allow me to go larger but i have 660gb available of unused disk space
[19:27] <ThinkT510> termitor: it is still experimental, you shouldn't be using it in production environments
[19:28] <ichat> does any one know if  you specially need  the 64bit version of ubuntu to run on an EFI  based notebook?
[19:28] <termitor> ThinkT510: it's btrfs,not the disk you think ?
[19:29] <ThinkT510> termitor: i can't tell sorry, but i wouldn't be surprised
[19:31] <Tex_Nick> ichat : bios runs beneath the OS & doesn't care if the OS is 32 or 64
[19:31] <Basil1x> Ubuntu12.04LTS... my Laptop's sound cuts out after a bit.  Sound through the HDMI port is unaffected, but the internal speakers quit.  Is there anything I can do to restore it?  I do not want to have to reinstall Ubuntu again.
[19:32] <joseluisc020> hello
[19:32] <dufa> hello
[19:35] <Emanon> Muphrid: Rebooting fixed the audio issue.
[19:36] <Muphrid> Emanon: alright, probably a module unloaded
[19:36] <Emanon> That's pretty lame of the module.
[19:36] <ichat> Tex_Nick:  - that wasnt my exact question...   my question was,  can you boot the 32bit iso of a  efi based system...  because it requires a diferent  {boot]  file... from a  legacy... for example  other  doesn  include efi boot on its 32bit  iso...
[19:37] <Emanon> Wine is still acting stupid. Guess I'll go talk to them.
[19:37] <b33nj> hi
[19:38] <Basil1x> nevermind... gonna switch to Fedora
[19:38] <b33nj> Basilx
[19:38] <Tex_Nick> ichat : sorry, someone else will have to help you with that :)
[19:39] <b33nj> hi
[19:41] <ichat> Tex_Nick:  not a problem... - thanks for trying anyway...
[19:41] <ichat> ill just have to download both and try...
[19:42] <Gnome-Help> hello
[19:42] <Gnome-Help> i have a question
[19:42] <ThinkT510> Gnome-Help: you better ask it then
[19:42] <Gnome-Help> how can i install gnome?
[19:42] <Gnome-Help> http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/
[19:43] <Gnome-Help> there stand Take GNOME 3.6 for a test drive
[19:43] <ThinkT510> !notunity | Gnome-Help
[19:43] <b33nj> ThinkT510, hi
[19:43] <Gnome-Help> butt there is also another version of gnome
[19:43] <ThinkT510> b33nj: hi
[19:43] <Gnome-Help> when you click "Download the live image"
[19:43] <b33nj> ThinkT510: suggest me a movie to watch
[19:44] <ThinkT510> b33nj: you are in the wrong channel
[19:44] <joey8> hey guys - what is the name of the command to display computer information. the name is like "inxi" or something. thx
[19:44] <ThinkT510> b33nj: this is ubuntu support
[19:44] <ThinkT510> joey8: lspci?
[19:44] <b33nj> ThinkT510: suggest me a book about linux commands to read
[19:44] <joey8> ThinkT510➤ ah ok thanx
[19:44] <yeats> b33nj: got an ubuntu support question?
[19:45] <ThinkT510> b33nj: try asking in ##linux
[19:45] <rust_> Hello?
[19:45] <b33nj> yeats: suggest me a book about linux commands
[19:45] <yeats> !ot | b33nj
[19:45] <ThinkT510> !terminal | b33nj
[19:45] <ThinkT510> !manual | b33nj
[19:45] <DJones> b33nj: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[19:46] <agronholm> does anyone know why the Xorg process has a habit of going into a busy-waiting cycle where it consumes a lot (13-40%) CPU even when the user is not doing anything?
[19:46] <agronholm> rebooting helps temporarily
[19:46] <b33nj> DJones, no
[19:46] <rust_> Hey, my ubuntu randomly stopped working, and said something about Minimal bash line editing. What is this?
[19:47] <Gnome-Help> @ubottu click on the gnome site to "Download th elive image"
[19:47] <veryhappy> what's best? what's newer? what's faster? mbr or gpt with uefi?
[19:47] <b33nj> help, irssi says cannot send to channel
[19:47] <Sling> b33nj: we can see you fine
[19:47] <b33nj> Sling: in #linux channel
[19:47] <ThinkT510> Gnome-Help: if you want gnome3 with gnome-shell then do: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[19:48] <Sling> b33nj: register with nickserv in order to speak there
[19:48] <Gnome-Help> no i dont want
[19:48] <ThinkT510> b33nj: you need a registered nick
[19:48] <Sling> some channels have that measure against spam
[19:48] <Sling> see /msg nickserv register htlp
[19:48] <yeats> !freenode | b33nj
[19:48] <Sling> s/htlp/help/
[19:48] <Gnome-Help> when i click on there it download gnome-3.6.0.iso
[19:48] <Gnome-Help> how can i install this version?
[19:48] <rust_> Hey, my Ubuntu stopped working and now ir says something about Bash line editing, can someone helo me?
[19:48] <b33nj> okay
[19:48] <antoniocetera> hello
[19:48] <ThinkT510> Gnome-Help: thats not how you install things
[19:49] <ThinkT510> Gnome-Help: that is an iso you burn to a disk and boot off
[19:49] <Gnome-Help> i use unet.... then it runs on a usb stick
[19:49] <Gnome-Help> but how can i run it on the harddrive
[19:49] <Gnome-Help> from usb to harddrive
[19:49] <ThinkT510> Gnome-Help: thats got nothing to do with ubuntu
[19:49] <veryhappy> Gnome-Help: you should use syslinux
[19:49] <yeats> Gnome-Help: install Ubuntu
[19:50] <Gnome-Help> syslinux?
[19:50] <yeats> then install gnome-shell
[19:50] <Gnome-Help> but what is when i want to install this....is this possible?
[19:50] <ThinkT510> Gnome-Help: no
[19:50] <Gnome-Help> it is a demo?! of gnome
[19:51] <Gnome-Help> i wnat to install this on the harddrive
[19:51] <ThinkT510> Gnome-Help: then ask the guys you got it from, this has nothing to do with ubuntu
[19:51] <yeats> Gnome-Help: this is where you ask about Gnome: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeIrcChannels#List_of_IRC_Channels
[19:51] <DJones> Gnome-Help: The iso you are downloading is another operating system, not something you install on Ubuntu
[19:51] <Gnome-Help> ok
[19:51] <Gnome-Help> i thought the linux installation is always the same :)
[19:52] <bekks> Gnome-Help: The installation process differs for every linux distribution.
[19:53] <Gnome-Help> thanks for help
[19:53] <Gnome-Help> bye
[19:54] <enneract> how does a LVM with multiple discs handle one disc failing?
[19:54] <rust_> Hey. Can someone help me with this? My ubuntu isnt working and it just says it supports minimal bash coding. Can someone help?
[19:55] <jhutchins_wk> rust_: What do you need help with?
[19:55] <jhutchins_wk> enneract: Your data is preserved on the backup you made.
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> !lvm | enneract is this useful?
[19:56] <rust_> Jhitchins_wk: I booted up my ubuntu, and all it says is that it supports minimal bash line editing. Thats it, and it wont let me use my OS.
[19:57] <jhutchins_wk> rust_: Why not?  Does it not have a login prompt?
[19:57] <yeats> rust_: that's BusyBox (the emergency shell) - there should have been an error message before it threw you in there
[19:58] <jhutchins_wk> rust_: Ah yes, that's where that comes up...  Need to pay attention to the error messages.
[19:58] <rust_> Years: no error message. Thats it. J
[19:58] <jhutchins_wk> rust_: Do you get the grub bootmenu?
[19:58] <ThinkT510> !tab | rust_
[19:59] <rust_> None of those tab commands let me use my  OS.
[20:00] <rust_> Jhutchins_wk: even the one that said boot said I needed to load the kernel first
[20:00] <ThinkT510> rust_: sorry, it looked as if you were typing people's nicks by hand
[20:02] <jhutchins_wk> rust_: You are not giving us enough information for us to be able to help you.
[20:02] <bekks> rust_: What happens when you reboot your pc, and trying to boot boot Ubuntu. Please be as detailed as possible.
[20:03] <rust_> Jhutchins_wk: all it is is a black screen with white text, saying that "Minimal Bash Like editing is supported" then says I get commands with tab.
[20:03] <rust_> Thinkt510: I am typing these by hand, I dont have a tab key because I am using my phone.
[20:04] <ThinkT510> rust_: ah
[20:04] <jhutchins_wk> rust_: It doesn't just pop up with that line when you turn it on.  Something happens before then.
[20:05] <Motoservo> I'm trying to install Ubuntu onto a stick drive as a dual boot for my mac. I'm following the directions but after copying over the .img the stick dismounts as "unreadable" and diskutil list shows that the stick changes from type DOS FAT32 to "0x17".  Next it blinks by a screen saying NTF5: No wubildr.
[20:07] <bekks> rust_: So you are using WUBI. Thats a VERY important information.
[20:07] <rust_> Bekks: then it takes me to the GNU GRUB screen.
[20:07] <bekks> rust_: And basically, something is really messed up - I never used Wubi - but it looks like something messed up a file on your windows filesystem.
[20:08] <Motoservo> bekks: sudo dd if=~/Desktop/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m
[20:08] <Tex_Nick> Motoservo : arethe directions from here ,,, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[20:08] <Motoservo> Tex_Nick: Those are the directions I followed.
[20:08] <bekks> Motoservo: Whats that "/dev/disk1" thing?
[20:09] <Motoservo> It doesn't matter what format the stick is when I start: HFS or DOS, it ends up something else.
[20:09] <rust_> bekks: I had lent my computer to my father, and he said it Windows ran a chkdsk. Do you think that might be it?
[20:09] <Motoservo> I tried of=/dev/rdisk1 bs=1m and of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m
[20:10] <bekks> rust_: chkdsk doesnt mess up files. Something happened, and that file is messed up, deleted, whatever.
[20:10] <Motoservo> Seems those were my two options.
[20:11] <rust_> bekks: I called and asked my father about it, he said all it did was say it deleted corrupted files.
[20:11] <Lartza> To create a htpasswd for Digest mode what parameters should I use?
[20:11] <bekks> rust_: That could have been the result of a filesystem corruption - and that file got corrupted and was deleted.
[20:12] <mike_papa> I have scanner (all in one device hp 3055) connected to raspberrypi with sane working there. scanimage is working locally. Now I want to set up sane on Ubuntu to use scanner shared by raspberry. Raspberry seems to have everything ok. I can telnet it on 6566, but Ubuntu does not find scanner. dll.conf has only "net" in it, and "net.conf" has only raspberry's ip.
[20:13] <rust_> Bekks: I guess I have to uninstall and Reinstall ubuntu?
[20:13] <mike_papa> Any ideas what can be wrong?
[20:13] <bekks> rust_: I'd not use WUBI at all, but create a dualboot with a natively installed Ubuntu.
[20:15] <rust_> Bekks: If that involves a disk, I cant do that because I am using a netbook without a disk drive.
[20:15] <ThinkT510> rust_: use a usb
[20:15] <bekks> rust_: So where is that Windows installed onto?
[20:15] <WeThePeople> hi
[20:16] <Motoservo> bekks: Does that "/dev/disk1" part seem off? What seems off about it: path? syntax?
[20:16] <rust_> Bekks: windows came preinstalled on my netbook
[20:16] <bekks> rust_: And it is installed onto what....? Yes, a harddisk.
[20:17] <bekks> Motoservo: Never seen Mac OSX device paths until now :)
[20:17] <ThinkT510> !usb | rust_
[20:17] <Motoservo> bekks: Ah.
[20:17] <goddard> how can i remove duplicate entries in my apt sources?
[20:17] <mike_papa> bekks: he meant cd-rom drive
[20:17] <mike_papa> i guess
[20:18] <bekks> mike_papa: There is no windows live cd, so you must be wrong.
[20:18] <ThinkT510> bekks: he meant he can't install ubuntu via cd
[20:18] <rust_> ThinkT510: thats exactly what I meant,
[20:18] <bekks> ThinkT510: He has an installed windows, he installed WUBI, and that WUBI installation is messed up.
[20:18] <bekks> Thats the facts,
[20:19] <bekks> So I am asking: where is that windows installed onto, if not on a harddisk?
[20:19] <Muphrid> goddard: either in synaptic (i think) or manually editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:19] <ThinkT510> bekks: please re-read what rust_ has typed
[20:20] <mike_papa> anyway you don't really need cd rom drive to install ubuntu. It works same if you install it from usb. It even works pretty nice installed on usb.
[20:20] <bekks> ThinkT510: I've elaborated those facts with him. :)
[20:20] <dufa> Motoservo: the path /dev/disk1 should be just right
[20:20] <jrib> goddard: you have to check /etc/apt/sources.list as well as files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[20:21] <ThinkT510> rust_: use a usb to install ubuntu
[20:21] <rust_> Bekks: The Windows was preinstalled on my Acer Aspire One Netbook.
[20:21] <itry> Hello! When I watch flash videos in firefox or chrome, at first everything is ok, but after 10 minutes the video always starts to stutter. Any ideas why and how to fix this?
[20:21] <bekks> rust_: And it is or was installed onto WHAT...? Onto which device?  This way you will avoid messing up your windows if something goes wrong on partition changes.
[20:23] <rust_> IdleOne: ok. Sorry.
[20:23] <ThinkT510> !usb | rust_
[20:23] <nino_> itry: try using the about:flags option in Google Chrome
[20:24] <itry> Muphrid: looks like this thing installs a new flash version. would prefer to do it manually so i know whats going on.
[20:24] <osfinder> hello
[20:24] <nino_> There is a option that you can disable one flash plugin
[20:24] <rust_> mike_papa: I very much care about speed.
[20:24] <nino_> With a wrong version
[20:24] <osfinder> can someone help me with a crazy problem
[20:24] <itry> nino_: about:flags gives me a white page. (im using chromium)
[20:24] <nino_> why not the official one?
[20:24] <dufa> osfinder: go ahead, state the problem
[20:25] <osfinder> can someone answer my difficult question?
[20:25] <bekks> rust_: Then install Ubuntu as a dualboot, it will be faster than every USB stick.
[20:25] <osfinder> which os does he use?
[20:25] <osfinder> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HgyStstIhw
[20:25] <osfinder> can someone say me what he is using
[20:25] <mike_papa> rust_: then install it on hard drive. Download image, google how to "burn" it to bootable usb, and you're set.
[20:25] <rust_> bekks:  how do
[20:25] <rust_> I do that?
[20:25] <nino_> itry do you use wubi or what?
[20:26] <goddard> does anyone know how to remove duplicate apt get sources with the command line?
[20:26] <nino_> apt-get clean of manually
[20:26] <itry> nino_: what is wubi?
[20:26] <nino_> *or*
[20:26] <bekks> rust_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot  -- wait a few minutes, the servers having problems currently.
[20:26] <nino_> Itry: that is a test version of ubuntu that runs in windows
[20:26] <mike_papa> rust_ : just be careful! You will need to change your partitions' sizes. You may loose everything from your computer if something goes wrong. Even pre-installed windows, and it's recovery option.
[20:26] <osfinder> IN windows?!
[20:26] <bekks> nino_: Thats no test version. Thats a full installation.
[20:27] <nino_> You can test your hardware and feeling about ubuntu in Wubi
[20:27] <rust_> By the way, to everyone helping me, I have been using Ubuntu for months without a problem.
[20:27] <BluesKaj> goddard, use nano in the termianl to edit /etc/apt/sources.list ...look for duplicate entries
[20:27] <rust_> Intil now that is,
[20:27] <itry> nino_: just noticed, this is a debian 6 box, not ubuntu.
[20:27] <osfinder> sorry but can some one help me..........i know its a crazy question
[20:27] <rust_> Itry: this is ubuntu
[20:27] <[snake]> osfinder, what is it?
[20:27] <goddard> There has to be a way for apt-get to remove them
[20:27] <osfinder> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HgyStstIhw
[20:27] <goddard> it detects them
[20:27] <nino_> Bekks you are right but its not better then stand alone version or duel boot
[20:28] <ThinkT510> osfinder: he is in some linux distro that uses compiz
[20:28] <nino_> So i call it a test machine os
[20:28] <osfinder> what os does the youtube guy use?
[20:28] <razvan> hello, I removed apache install directory by mistake, and I tried to remove the package and install it again, but when i do that, it says that package is already installed, even if I did an apt-get remove apache2. I am using ubuntu 12.04. Can you tell me what to do ?
[20:28] <tozen> ThinkT510: +100
[20:28] <osfinder> "he is in some linux distro that uses compiz"?????!!!
[20:28] <bekks> nino_: Which is wrong. ;) It needs a windows, that all.
[20:28] <[snake]> osfinder, some distribution of GNU/Linux
[20:28] <jrib> razvan: what did you remove exactly?
[20:29] <tozen> osfinder: yes
[20:29] <dufa> osfinder: it's impossible to tell which distro he is running, they're so customizable and many
[20:29] <osfinder> "GNU/Linux" i know but what distro?
[20:29] <[snake]> osfinder, you can use ubuntu for it I bet
[20:29] <Muphrid> osfinder: looks like ubuntu 10.10
[20:29] <nino_> ye but its not better then stand alone or dualboot Bekks
[20:29] <[snake]> We'll go with Muphrid 's answer osfinder
[20:29] <linuxthefish> hi, how can i install software from a live USB with persistance enabled?
[20:29] <[snake]> ubuntu 10.10
[20:29] <linuxthefish> apt-get shows no such package, and apt-get update dosn't do anything
[20:29] <bekks> nino_: Which doesnt magically convert it into a "test os"?
[20:30] <tozen> osfinder: probably sone debian kind distro with compiz
[20:30] <jrib> linuxthefish: what does "dosn't do anything" mean exactly?
[20:30] <rust_>  Bekks: the site you sent me says it needs a disk. I dont have a CD drive.
[20:30] <nino_> Well what is it then? You cant say really that it works perfectly
[20:30] <mike_papa> And maybe anyone knows how to deal with my SANE problem? Server seems to work fine, nothing blocks connection (I can telnet it on 6566), but client does not find any scanner.
[20:30] <linuxthefish> "Reading packages lists... done"
[20:30] <linuxthefish> then it's finished
[20:31] <nino_> Its slower then a full stand alone of dualboot version Bekks
[20:31] <nino_> *or8
[20:31] <nino_> *
[20:31] <jrib> !who | linuxthefish
[20:31] <jrib> linuxthefish: what are you trying to install?
[20:31] <linuxthefish> jrib: sshd
[20:31] <linuxthefish> apache2 dosn't work either
[20:32] <jrib> linuxthefish: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[20:32] <bekks> nino_: Yes. But it still is a full blown Ubuntu install, and not a test OS. Because of the windows requirement, nobody actually wants to support it, but thats OT ;)
[20:32] <rust_> Bekks: the site you sent me says I need a CD drive. As I told you earlier, I have no CD drive.
[20:32] <CoreyBR> hello guys
[20:32] <CoreyBR> :)
[20:32] <CoreyBR> good afternoon
[20:32] <linuxthefish> jrib: "Package "openssh-server" has no instalation candidate" :S
[20:32] <tozen> CoreBR: loevening
[20:33] <nino_> Ok Bekks you are right its not a test OS but its not better then stand alone of dualboot
[20:33] <jrib> linuxthefish: pastebin the output from "sudo apt-get update" and your /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:33] <bekks> rust_: Then your one and only chance is using an installation on an USB stick.
[20:33] <tozen> CoreBR: lol evening
[20:33] <linuxthefish> ok
[20:33] <serp_> !who | CoreyBR
 try this http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[20:33] <rust_> Bekks: Im just going to use Wubi again.
[20:33] <rust_> Bye.
[20:33] <bekks> nino_: It is the SAME, it isnt better. It just requires Windows, which introduces a lot more problems than you want.
[20:34] <nino_> Ye thats the problem with wubi
[20:34] <linuxthefish> jrib: i get "cat: /etc/apt/sources.list: Input/output error"
[20:34] <nino_> i dont like it at all
[20:34] <osfinder> so does someone kknow what os the guy used?
[20:34] <nino_> And i'm wondering wy they introduced it
[20:35] <ThinkT510> osfinder: why does it matter so much?
[20:35] <nino_> OSfinder: Do you mean Itry?
[20:35] <osfinder> no i mean all persons here
[20:35] <mike_papa> rust_: first thing on google after typing "install ubuntu from usb" answers most of your questions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[20:35] <bazhang> osfinder, dont poll
[20:35] <osfinder> :(
[20:36] <bazhang> osfinder, this is ubuntu support
[20:36] <ThinkT510> mike_papa: he left
[20:36] <mike_papa> ThinkT510: Yeah. I missed it. I was on google for 3 seconds then ;)
[20:37] <osfinder> i thank all bye
[20:37] <nino_> Bye
[20:38] <jrib> linuxthefish: well that's probably not good
[20:39] <NazguL`> my mouse cursor disapear when i'm on menu options or icons how i can fix it?
[20:39] <linuxthefish> oh
[20:39] <linuxthefish> should i just reinstall ubuntu live on my usb?
[20:40] <varikonniemi> you should install in the first place...
[20:40] <media-centre> hallo anyone here
[20:41] <ikonia> yes
[20:41] <media-centre> ive some games working on windows
[20:41] <media-centre> and the next step is playing them online
[20:41] <tozen> media-centre: state the problem
[20:41] <media-centre> how do go about doing that
[20:42] <ThinkT510> media-centre: this is ubuntu support
[20:42] <mike_papa> media-center: you're asking for what? How to play online games on windows?
[20:42] <media-centre> so where do i go to get game server support
[20:42] <bazhang> ##windows media-centre
[20:42] <media-centre> yea
[20:43] <CoreyBR> lol i'm a lot confused in linux
[20:43] <CoreyBR> @_@
[20:43] <mike_papa> media-center: this game support?
[20:43] <CoreyBR> reading a lot of guides here but still strange
[20:43] <MFen> can someone suggest some ways to install ubuntu if i don't have a blank dvd around?
[20:43] <bazhang> media-centre, thats the channel, go there
[20:43] <bazhang> MFen, usb stick for one
[20:43] <MFen> i have a windows 8 machine here that i need to wipe and put ubuntu onto
[20:43] <mike_papa> MFen: USB stick, network...
[20:43] <ikonia> !install | MFen
[20:43] <media-centre> i know their are some windows games out their that have linux server support
[20:43] <MFen> what's the smallest usb stick that would work?
[20:43] <media-centre> so guessing that
[20:44] <bazhang> media-centre, how is this connected to ubuntu
[20:44] <media-centre> ok thanx
[20:44] <ikonia> media-centre: what do you want to know ?
[20:44] <media-centre> how i can get some of my games to play online
[20:44] <holly_molly> hello there
[20:44] <bazhang> media-centre, and how is this related to Ubuntu?
[20:45] <media-centre> its using linux servers
[20:45] <ikonia> media-centre: what OS are you running the games on ?
[20:45] <media-centre> windows
[20:45] <holly_molly> please wine vs vbox?
[20:45] <bazhang> media-centre, thats not an ubuntu issue
[20:45] <media-centre> but some of them have linux server support
[20:45] <media-centre> not officially
[20:45] <ikonia> media-centre: ok, so the ##windows channel will teach you how to configure your windows machine to connect the games to the linux servers
[20:45] <mike_papa> MFen: I have ubuntu installed and working on 4GB stick. It's not fastest, but independent and portable.
[20:45] <media-centre> but
[20:45] <bazhang> media-centre, thats not on topic here
[20:45] <ThinkT510> holly_molly: depends
[20:45] <mrspinx> Hi Has anyone worked on a nexus 7
[20:46] <ikonia> media-centre: so if you type /join ##windows you'll join the ##windows channels and you can explain the problem to the windows team
[20:46] <media-centre> ok thanx
[20:46] <mike_papa> MFen: Installation will take same place as on DVD.  I did it once at work.
[20:47] <ikonia> mrspinx: #ubuntu-arm has some guys using the nexus platform
[20:47] <dufa> MFen: the minimal iso is only 30 MB
[20:47] <dufa> MFen: you can read about it over at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[20:48] <mrspinx> yea it seems quite in that channel
[20:48] <mike_papa> MFen: You need just tiny bootable usb stick, and rest will be downloaded from net during installation. I did it using my phone as stick actually. ;)
[20:49] <Sashmo> I want to encrypt a parttion on a hard drive, and then then when ubuntu boots, mount and decrypt it for usage.  So if someone physically removes the drive to gain access to it, they cant, because its encrypted.... Does any when know how to do this?
[20:49] <lenswipe> can someone help me get the webcam working on a 2007/2008 macbok
[20:49] <lenswipe> macbook*
[20:49] <MFen> mike_papa: what kind of phone?
[20:49] <MFen> dufa: awesome that will help
[20:50] <lenswipe> anyone able to help out at all?
[20:50] <lenswipe> if i open cheese it just shows a black screen or says "No Device" or whatever
[20:50] <mike_papa> MFen: I don't remember. It was Sony Xperia X1... doesn't matter. Most important was that it served it's memory card as regular usb stick. So I formatted it, "burned" minimal iso on it, and got myself ubuntu installer.
[20:52] <MFen> oh, you formatted it. no thanks then
[20:52] <mike_papa> MFen: And if you'd like to install Ubuntu on your phone, it's possible on Android. Complete Linux Installer from android market does it.
[20:52] <MFen> also no thanks. :)
[20:53] <mike_papa> MFen: Yeah. You need to make it bootable somehow. I had nothing important there, so it was easiest way to get rid of everything.
[20:53] <MFen> i'm going to try either the no-disk option or using the minimal disk on the stick that i have
[20:53] <lenswipe> can someone help at all?
[20:53] <lenswipe> anyone?
[20:54] <CoreyBR> what are the others channels of ubuntu here in freenode?
[20:55] <ThinkT510> !irc | CoreyBR
[20:56] <CoreyBR> ty ThinkT510
[20:56] <ikonia> !webcam | lenswipe
[20:56] <CoreyBR> !freenode
[20:57] <mike_papa> Is it just me, or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat returns Internal Server Error (that will be... 500?)
[20:57] <lenswipe> ikonia: you misunderstand me
[20:58] <mike_papa> It works on http instead of https. You may want to correct link on script.
[20:58] <lenswipe> ikonia: Im having problems getting iSight to work
[20:58] <ThinkT510> mike_papa: works fine here
[20:58] <Flannel> mike_papa: it normally works fine with https; the wiki is having a bad day.
[20:58] <ikonia> lenswipe: islight is a mac app isn't it ?
[20:59] <mike_papa> Flannel: That explains a lot.
[20:59] <lenswipe> ikonia: wat?
[20:59] <Jordan_U> ikonia: iSight is what Apple calls their webcams (hardware).
[20:59] <ikonia> lenswipe: isn't isight a mac app ?
[20:59] <ikonia> ahh
[20:59] <lenswipe> ikonia: im running ubuntu on a macbook and having problems getting iSight (the webcam) to work
[20:59] <ikonia> lenswipe: ok, so the link I've given you shows you how to get webcams working in linux
[20:59] <ikonia> and listes supported cameras
[21:00] <ikonia> lists
[21:00] <lenswipe> ikonia: I know how to get webcams working in linux, what i'm less knowledgeable about is why the ubuntu website says iSight should work out of the box and it's not recognising it.
[21:00] <ikonia> lenswipe: what makes you think it's not recognising it ?
[21:01] <lenswipe> ikonia: the part where it says "NO DEVICE" when i open cheese
[21:01] <ikonia> lenswipe: so you know how to configure webcams....as you said. Have you checked the device nodes ?
[21:02] <lenswipe> ikonia: the device "nodes" ?!
[21:02] <ikonia> lenswipe: yes, the device files for the device you want to use
[21:03] <jrib> lenswipe: what ubuntu version are you using?
[21:03] <lenswipe> jrib: It was precise
[21:03] <lenswipe> jrib: I just upgraded to Quantal
[21:03] <lenswipe> (12.10)
[21:04] <jrib> lenswipe: output of "sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name"?
[21:04] <Motoservo> have any of you guy setup Ubuntu on a stick for Mac OS X before?
[21:05] <andrude> having trouble with an rnx mini1 connections
[21:05] <brady2600> ok so , im using filezilla and i want to set my default text editor
[21:05] <brady2600> i normally used windows in the past, so i would normally browse to the programs folder
[21:06] <brady2600> but uhh.... where do i look for my bluefish editor?
[21:06] <andrude> I have read several forums and the the minin1 uses the realtek 8188cus chipset
  one way to open it that will work hold down ctrl alt and press "t"
[21:06] <tozen> brady2600: /usr/share ?
 type bluefish press enter that will open it
[21:07] <brady2600> no but im trying to assign the editor in filezilla
[21:07] <brady2600> meaning i would have to navigate folders to it
[21:07] <andrude> the default driver rtl8192 doesn't work sees the network but won't connect
[21:08] <tozen> brady2600: add /home there is aal settings included
[21:08] <Motoservo> I have a choice of either Windows or Linux. This Ubuntu is hosing my stick every time I copy it over. Guess that leaves another distro, or Windows. Something tells me it will be worth it to just pay for Windows and be done with it.
[21:08] <tozen> *all
[21:08] <lenswipe> jrib: sorry - I just saw your message
[21:08] <lenswipe> jrib: leme get on tat for you
[21:08] <brady2600> i see the bluefish folder in /user/share, but i dont see the application
[21:09] <asoltys> hi, I have a VPS running maverick that I want to do a release upgrade on.  I guess since 10.10 is EOL I get 404 errors from apt-get when trying to install update-manager-core.  How can I install the upgrade tool if the apt repositories aren't available anymore?
[21:09] <lenswipe> jrib: MacBook2,1
[21:10] <tozen> brady2600: the best way is to use PING fron liveUSB more easy and friendly
[21:10] <brady2600> huh?
[21:10] <Kalashnikov> does ubuntu support multi videocard and multi monitor setups out of the box or does it need to be configured?
[21:10] <brady2600> what does that have to do with where the bluefish application is located
[21:10] <BluesKaj> Motoservo, telling us you are going to install windows isn't going to help the support process here or hinder it for that matter ..tell us what your error is before complaining
[21:10] <brady2600> done see it in home either
[21:11] <jrib> lenswipe: output of "ls -l /dev/video0; lsusb"
[21:11] <jrib> lenswipe: (use a pastebin)
[21:11] <yeats> brady2600: try /usr/bin
[21:12] <brady2600> tozen: i think you replied to me , but intended someone else
[21:12] <tozen> brady2600: im trying to help exactly u
[21:12] <yeats> brady2600: also 'which bluefish'
[21:13] <brady2600> the bluefish editor i have installed on my ubunut
[21:13] <brady2600> ubuntu
[21:13] <Motoservo> BluesKaj: I did, earlier. Been working on this all morning. I've rebooted though and it's all lost from my IRC history. I'll go round it up...
[21:13] <yeats> brady2600: no, I mean type 'which bluefish' into the terminal
[21:13] <jhutchins_wk> brady2600: Which is a command that will locate a binary if it's on your path.
[21:13] <brady2600> i need to navigate.. doing it though the terminal won't set it as the default editor in filezilla
[21:13] <brady2600> ahhh
[21:13] <lenswipe> jrib: http://pastebin.com/Ny87WERG
[21:13] <yeats> brady2600: you're trying to find it's location, no?
[21:14] <yeats> s/it's/its/
[21:14] <brady2600> yes i found it in user/bin
[21:14] <lorddelta> So has anyone attempted to shrink Ubuntu 12.10 iso to live *CD* sizes?
[21:14] <lorddelta> And would it be that difficult to do?
[21:14] <jhutchins_wk> brady2600: finding the binary will make it easier to tell filezilla what to use.
[21:15] <tozen> bredy2600: i suggesting to use PING so u can get ur system fully backed up like an imege file
[21:15] <BluesKaj> Motoservo, rather than a usb stick do you have any blank dvds ,, they're easier to use in some cases
[21:15] <jrib> lenswipe: many releases ago, one had to do this manual procedure: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleiSight .  Indeed I did that previously on my macbook 4,1.  So that may be why it works now.  However, on an imac desktop system, the camera does indeed just work.  Let me pastebin for you what I see related to the camera in each.
[21:15] <tozen> ohh
[21:15] <tozen> filezilla1!!!
[21:15] <lorddelta> Yeah DVD's are ubiquitous, but I have a stack of CD's lying around, and DVD's are hence more valuable. I'd be happy to burn a 2.3 GB Ubuntu DVD or something, but 800 MB is sparse...
[21:16] <tozen> sorry i thought clonezilla...im an idiot :D
[21:16] <lorddelta> Time/money is just as much a consideration for me as it is for an ubuntu dev.
[21:16] <Flannel> asoltys: You need to move your repositories to old-releases.ubuntu.com, that's where the EOL archives are, and you can get the latest update manager from that.
[21:16] <Motoservo> BluesKaj: My DVD Drive doesn't work. I'm trying to set this stick up for my mom so she can use a scanner that only supports Windows and Linux. Booting from a DVD to get into Linux won't be an option for us.
[21:17] <lenswipe> jrib: Yeah, I found that - problem is - I don't have an OSX install to get the files from
[21:17] <lorddelta> e.g. how would I go about building a (smaller) 12.10 distro from scratch?
[21:17] <lenswipe> the firmware that is
[21:17] <ikonia> lorddelta: you'd have to alter the build....which would make it a custom spin
[21:17] <ikonia> lorddelta: which would mean it's up to you to support / maintain it
[21:17] <lenswipe> jrib: the HDD has also been replaced in this macbook (it's my girlfriend's macbok(
[21:18] <lenswipe> macbook* sod this keyboad to hades
[21:18] <jrib> lenswipe: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1476896/  My understanding is that the manual procedure is no longer necessary.  Indeed, I have /lib/firmware/isight.fw on my macbook but no such file on the imac.  And both cameras work
[21:18] <BluesKaj> Motoservo, perhaps you could reveiew the method you used to put ubuntu on the usb stick , because it should boot if it was installed correctly
[21:18] <Motoservo> BluesKaj: I can't find the page on the Ubuntu site now but this is the same instructions, almost verbatim. http://blog.lewan.com/2012/02/10/making-a-bootable-usb-stick-on-an-apple-mac-os-x-from-an-iso/
[21:18] <Motoservo> I get as far as running the dd command.
[21:19] <lenswipe> jrib: so you think I might have the firmware _with_ ubuntu by default?
[21:19] <Motoservo> And then after running the command, the drive dismounts, I get an alert that it's not readable...
[21:19] <jrib> lenswipe: yes, for a while now, the camera should work out of the box
[21:19] <lorddelta> ikonia: ok, so what, just install uck?
[21:20] <Motoservo> …and it then shoes up as    1:0x17  789.9 MB   disk1s1 in the diskutil list command.
[21:20] <Ub0ntuN00b> hi
[21:20] <lorddelta> ikonia: or is it better to use an hg/git repo?
[21:20] <lenswipe> jrib: well it doesn't and I don't have /lib/firmware/isight
[21:20] <jrib> lenswipe: i'm looking for documentation on how :)  Yes, I don't have /lib/firmware/isight either.
[21:20] <Ub0ntuN00b> any one know a mysql gui client with code assist?
[21:20] <Motoservo> and then 0x17 is where it *used* to say DOS FAT32
[21:20] <lenswipe> jrib: got it - thanks :)
[21:21] <Kalashnikov> What do i have to do to set up 3 monitors connected to 2 video cards in ubuntu?
[21:21] <tozen> Motoservo: what command do u use and what do u trying to get?4
[21:21] <asoltys> Flannel: Thanks!
[21:21] <BluesKaj> Motoservo, I'm not well versed about linux on macs ...sorry for wasting time on this
[21:22] <ikonia> lorddelta: sorry, in respect to what ?
[21:22] <lorddelta> ikonia: easiest fastest way to remix ubuntu 12.10
[21:22] <Motoservo> tozen: sudo dd if=~/Desktop/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m
[21:22] <jrib> lenswipe: following the manual way would probably make it work too
[21:22] <Motoservo> It's from the page on how to set up Ubuntu on a stick for Mac OS X.
[21:23] <lorddelta> I already have the ubuntu 12.10 image, so if I can just open it up in Archive manager and delete a binary image or two...
[21:23] <ikonia> it's not something I'd suggest doing, and unless I'm missunderstanding what you're asking I don't understand what you're relating git to in terms of remaking the image
[21:23] <lenswipe> jrib: except i dont have the firmware file
[21:23] <lenswipe> the .fw
[21:23] <ikonia> lorddelta: no, you should under no circumstances delete random things, plus the install CD is built on squash fs not an "archive"
[21:23] <jrib> lenswipe: you could install os x and grab it :)  I'm trying to figure out how to find what firmware is loaded on the imac
[21:23] <tozen> Motoservo: where's the problem is?
[21:23] <lenswipe> jrib: how do i install OSX?
[21:24] <ikonia> lorddelta: as you don't seem to understand how the actual CD images work I'd strongly advise you not to try to mess with it
[21:24] <lenswipe> jrib: there isn't a CD (afaik)
[21:24] <jrib> lenswipe: the macbooks (at least back then) come with OS X cds
[21:25] <lenswipe> jrib: ill go ask my gf (it's her macbook
[21:25] <Motoservo> tozen: After running that command the stick dismounts and I get an alert that it is unreadable. It is still recognized in diskutil list but where it said DOS FAT32 it will then say 0x17.
[21:25] <lorddelta> ikonia: yeah they've always been something of a mystery to me: so you're basically saying there exists no easy trick to remix from a distro release, I'd have to download some sources and 'build' the cd from scratch...i.e. a lot of work.
[21:25] <andrude> I have a rosewill RNX Mini n1 dongle that supposedly uses the rtl8192 module, I have read in other forums that I really need the rtl8188cus module but the 8192 loads by default. I have a copy of the 8188 diver but can't find the any modules listed in  cat /etc/modules.  I'm running 12.0 lts are the modules put somewhere else?
[21:26] <ikonia> lorddelta: unless you have a solid understanding of how it works and the implications of changes, it's not something I'd suggest doing
[21:26] <tozen> Motoservo: so what for do u type /dev/disk1 if u got usb?
[21:26] <andrude> 12.04 lts that is
[21:26] <Tex_Nick> 4598732
[21:26] <cmell> tozen, usb drives are still /dev/sdx
[21:26] <lorddelta> ikonia: if I do try something I'll probably just delete gimp or somesuch off of it, worst comes to worst i've got one less cd to waste
[21:26] <lorddelta> ikonia: thanks for your time
[21:27] <dufa> tozen: /dev/disk# is where macs put the usb-sticks
[21:27] <tozen> Motoservo: show blkid with usb inserted, please
[21:27] <ikonia> lorddelta: it's not that simple
[21:27] <Motoservo> tozen: That's the device node of the stick.
[21:27] <paperke68> How do I have to play a sound when a dowloaded torrent finishes with rtorrent ?
[21:27] <tozen> dufa:
[21:27] <tozen> dufa: macs??!!!
[21:28] <Motoservo> tozen: What command is that?   See that first paragraph on the wiki (it gives you the name of the file, its location, and even suggests you should be able to google for it...)
[21:30] <tozen> *my
[21:30] <MFen> any advice on dual-booting linux and windows, with an ssd drive involved?
[21:30] <MFen> the ssd drive is much smaller than the main disk, only 16GB
[21:31] <Motoservo> tozen: dufa Yes, trying to create a USB flash drive that I can boot to when I need to use Ubuntu instead of Mac OS X.
[21:31] <XTryXHack> pana
[21:32] <MFen> i'm thinking i'll install windows on the ssd drive if possible
[21:32] <tozen> Motoservo: does macs haven't any soft to burn image files on usb?
[21:32] <andrude> anyone?
[21:32] <riderplus> andrude what's your trouble?
[21:32] <andrude> I have a rosewill RNX Mini n1 dongle that supposedly uses the rtl8192 module, I have read in other forums that I really need the rtl8188cus module but the 8192 loads by default. I have a copy of the 8188 diver but can't find the any modules listed in  cat /etc/modules.  I'm running 12.0 lts are the modules put somewhere else?
[21:32] <ztgu> Does this script look ok? http://chriseiffel.com/everything-linux/how-i-got-suspend-and-hibernate-working-in-linux-ubuntu-11-04-mint-11/
[21:33] <ztgu> anyone with experience on sleep and hibernation problem in linux?
[21:33] <Motoservo> That's a good tip. Disk Util will give me that option. I was fixated on following these command line instructions and forgot that option. Thanks.
[21:33] <andrude> 12.04 lts that is
[21:33] <cmell> MFen, ssd's aren't a good choice for windows, due to the swap file
[21:33] <paperke68> anyone ?
[21:33] <Motoservo> thanks, tozen: will let you know if it works.
[21:33] <lorddelta> ikonia: well archive manager does open up the iso, but yeah I guess I have to unpack everything twice, once for the squashfs, another time to rebuild a smaller squashfs - so I guess its me vs the clock.
[21:33] <MFen> cmell i just want to get the best performance out of the ssd. how should i set things up?
[21:33] <riderplus> andrude you have to install 8188 properly and blacklist the other one
[21:33] <tozen> Motoservo: dont mention, pal
[21:34] <lorddelta> ikonia: including whatever time I have to spend figuring out squashfs/my mistakes.
[21:34] <MFen> right now it's the default lenovo install of windows 8. i don't know how the disks are allocated, yet
[21:34] <andrude> riderplus : I can't find the modules to blacklist it
[21:35] <lorddelta> ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization?
[21:35] <cmell> MFen, installing linux to the ssd is commonly done, because you don't need a swap partition if you have enough memory
[21:35] <MFen> well, it's windows that's slow to boot
[21:35] <andrude> I can see what's loaded with lsmod
[21:35] <jrib> lenswipe: output of "apt-cache policy linux-ubuntu-modules"?
[21:35] <riderplus> andrude lsmod | grep rtl*
[21:35]  * grep is away: PS3 or sleeping or something...
[21:35] <cmell> MFen, windows is designed to absorb all cpu time
[21:36] <MFen> what does that have to do with disk i/o
[21:36] <ztgu> Does this script look ok? http://chriseiffel.com/everything-linux/how-i-got-suspend-and-hibernate-working-in-linux-ubuntu-11-04-mint-11/
[21:36] <cmell> MFen, it's slow because it's windows. it will always be slow no matter the drive you use
[21:37] <joey8> Hi. Does anyone know how to get the “document viewer” to be able to read plain text files please.
[21:37] <lenswipe> N: Unable to locate package linux-ubuntu N: Unable to locate package modules
[21:37] <lenswipe> jrib: ^
[21:37] <jrib> lenswipe: output of "apt-cache policy linux-ubuntu-modules"?
[21:37] <dufa> Motoservo: I wish I remembered how the process is done. I've installed ubuntu on two macs before, but I struggled creating the usb
[21:37] <dufa> on one of the machines the dvd drive was broken
[21:37] <MFen> cmell: honestly i don't think you're unbiased about this
[21:38] <ztgu> anyone with experience on sleep and hibernation problem in linux?
[21:38] <cmell> MFen, then go ahead, install windows to your ssf. see how long the ssd lasts
[21:38] <riderplus> ztgu tbh I haven't tried them yet :)
[21:39] <lenswipe> jrib:
[21:39] <lenswipe> N: Unable to locate package linux-ubuntu-module
[21:39] <riderplus> what DE are u using ztgu
[21:39] <lenswipe> jrib: i missed the last bit in the paste
[21:39] <dufa> Motoservo: It might be i actually opted for using an external dvd reader and installing from that. however, good luck, i'll be leaving
[21:39] <Motoservo> dufa: tozen I just tried to use the GUI tool Disk Utility but I'm getting an error "Could not validate source - Invalid argument". I'm thinking now the problem is my conversion of the iso to img.
[21:39] <andrude> riderplus: I have rtl8192cu, rtl8192_common,rtlwifi and rtlwifi mac80211
[21:39] <Motoservo> k, dufa. Preciate it.
[21:40] <jrib> lenswipe: I have to go shovel snow but there's some interesting (though outdated and probably of limited use to you now) information at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/185634
[21:40] <tozen> Motoservo: seems ur image is broken
[21:40] <lorddelta> ikonia: 5% uncompressed!
[21:40] <lorddelta> hoo boy
[21:40] <andrude> Where are modules listed so that I can find them? the old cat /etc/modules has no mods in it
[21:41] <lenswipe> jrib: right now im considering how much I would like to slap steve jobs and johnny ives
[21:41] <Motoservo> Do you know if there's a way to download Ubuntu from their site in a format other than iso?
[21:41] <riderplus> andrude so blacklist what you don't need
[21:41] <riderplus> I'm not sure /etc/modules is the right place to look into...
[21:41] <tozen> Motoservo: no idea, sorry4
[21:41] <andrude> there are no modules listed there
[21:41] <ThinkT510> andrude: lsmod will tell you what modules are loaded
[21:41] <cmell> /lib/modules (?)
[21:42] <andrude> how do I blacklist them from the command line
[21:42] <ztgu> riderplus: DE? tbh?
[21:42] <riderplus> Desktop Environment...to be honest
[21:42] <tozen> Motoservo: do u really think ur mac doesnt support iso files or what?
[21:42] <riderplus> that's DE and tbh
[21:42] <riderplus> andrude: google is your friend ;)
[21:43] <Motoservo> Not sure. I always thought they were windows related, I've only seen them on torrent sites--and they never worked.
[21:43] <andrude> I have done this before on earlier versions of Ubuntu but the same things don't work in 12.04
[21:43] <tozen> Motoservo: very starnge
[21:43] <tozen> *strange
[21:44] <andrude> I have been googling this problem for a week now
[21:44] <andrude> Most of the posts are pre 12.04
[21:44] <ThinkT510> !blacklist | andrude
[21:44] <riderplus> bingo
[21:45] <ztgu> riderplus: Linux mint 14 KDE
[21:45] <andrude> thank you ubottu
[21:45] <Motoservo> yeah, tozen, Disk Utility doesn't seem to know what to do with the iso.
[21:45] <ThinkT510> !mint | ztgu
[21:46] <ztgu> Does this script look ok? http://chriseiffel.com/everything-linux/how-i-got-suspend-and-hibernate-working-in-linux-ubuntu-11-04-mint-11/
[21:46] <tozen> Motoservo: well i i have no idea about how to sort it out for me macs is like an darkness...
[21:46] <Motoservo> gotcha.
[21:47] <cmell> Motoservo, if you can find a port of cdrecord for your mac, you'd be able to use iso files. also, nero (if they have a mac version) can use iso files
[21:47] <Motoservo> thanks.
[21:48] <tozen> Motosrvo: if ull get it just let us know
[21:48] <tozen> just 4 expirience
[21:49] <studious> yooooooo
[21:49] <cmell> also, adaptec easy cd does have a mac version, and it can use iso files
[21:51] <lorddelta> Hmm well I don't need libreoffice...
[21:51] <ztgu> Libreoffice or openoffice guys?
[21:52] <tozen> libreoffice
[21:52] <cmell> personal preference
[21:52] <ThinkT510> ztgu: libreoffice is in the repos
[21:52] <ScottJensen> libre
[21:52] <ztgu> I like both
[21:52]  * OerHeks likes abiword
[21:52] <lorddelta> ztgu: definitely libre, I only meant on my dvd I'm trying to shrink to a livecd
[21:52] <mjayk> libre for me
[21:53] <cmell> why is a livecd better than a livedvd?
[21:53] <mjayk> purley caus i rarley use office and its in the reps (latex ftw)
[21:53] <mjayk> caus its smaller ;D
[21:55] <Surkow|laptop> so I have been experimenting some more in gnome session fallback. Compiz starts, but doesn't start rendering any window borders. No errors or anything.
[21:55] <lorddelta> cmell, yup, cause its smaller and I've got a stack of cd's I never use
[21:55] <Surkow|laptop> the only window manager that works right now is mutter
[21:59] <cmell> hmm, the last I looked dvd;s are exactly the same physical size as cd's
[21:59] <lorddelta> cmell?? CD are reliably 700 MB...
[21:59] <lorddelta> DVD's go up to 4GB
[21:59] <cmell> I said physical size
[22:00] <DrManhattan> 800mb
[22:00] <cmell> dvd discs are exactly the same diamter (physically) as a cd
[22:00] <lorddelta> cmell, sure, but they aren't as expensive
[22:01] <lorddelta> cmell, same goes for blu-ray
[22:01] <lorddelta> cmell, or dvd dl for that matter
[22:01] <MaxRebo> Hi, i just installed a graphics driver from the AMD support page on Ubuntu 12.10 and now pretty much anything graphics related is broken. My two external monitors don't get recognized anymore, i can't use native resolution etc. When I try to run the catalyst control center, it tells me no appropriate driver was found. Any idea how i can revert to the driver shipped with ubuntu?
[22:01] <cmell> if all discs are the same physical size, what benefit is cd for having less storage on it?
[22:02] <lorddelta> cmell, being cheaper
[22:02] <lorddelta> cmell, also, not having pointless discussions about dvd/cd size that ought to be had in #dvd
[22:03] <cmell> lorddelta, touche on that bit of trolling, bringing up the subject yourself, and then telling me it's OT
[22:04] <lorddelta> cmell, I was just being civil/chatty. I'm reducing an ubuntu dvd iso size...
[22:04] <crazybrain> can anyone tell me an alternative to Gwibber Social client???
[22:04] <lorddelta> excuse me for being on topic
[22:07] <hp420> can anyone help me get xfinity running on 12.10 64bit?
[22:07] <hp420> I have moonlight installed, but it still does not run videos
[22:07] <ThinkT510> hp420: i thought moonlight was abandoned
[22:08] <crazybrain> can anyone tell me an alternative to Gwibber Social client???
[22:09] <brian_the_droid> can anyone help me with a sound problem?
[22:09] <Jordan_U> hp420: Unfortunately moonlight doesn't implement Silverlight DRM schemes, making it useless for most sited that use SilverLight.
[22:11] <brian_the_droid> can anyone help me with a sound problem?
[22:11] <bekks> !anyone | brian_the_droid
[22:11] <brian_the_droid> i have no sound on ubuntu after installing a new sound card (creative sound blaster recon 3d) and I can't figure out why.
[22:12] <core_dumped> for starters is the hardware detected brian_the_droid
[22:13] <BluesKaj> brian_the_droid, did you set the default soundcard to pci in the bios?
[22:13] <brian_the_droid> yes, it plays in windows, it shows up in ubuntu, it seems to be configured okay, it shows it, but only as stereo
[22:13] <brian_the_droid> yes for bios
[22:13] <brian_the_droid> it calls it HDA creative in my sound settings
[22:13] <Mrokii> Hello. I have a game that doesn't work because it can't find a sound device. It has a config file with an entry for ALSA ("device = ALSA defaul"). Can anybody tell me what I'd need to replace that with if I want the game to use pulseaudio or oss?
[22:15] <riderplus> !pdasp | Mrokii
[22:16] <riderplus> oh know...
[22:16] <riderplus> Mrokii: google pdasp -s /dev/dsp
[22:16] <Mrokii> riderplus: Thanks, I will.
[22:17] <bandit-led> any one having problems accessing wikipedia.org with ubuntu?
[22:17] <riderplus> bandit-led: no
[22:17] <bekks> bandit-led: Works fine here.
[22:17] <bandit-led> :C
[22:17] <bandit-led> ty
[22:17] <riderplus> bandit-led: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> crazybrain  there are plenty twitter clients in the sofware center
[22:18] <bandit-led> or http://status.wikimedia.org/
[22:18] <riderplus> yeah...
[22:18] <haqe17> Hi, I put a cdrom into my laptop and burnt an .iso to it, but it wont eject now. How should I get it out?
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> crazybrain  plenty = 3
[22:19] <crazybrain> MonkeyDust: i want something which also shows facebook and other social client feeds
[22:19] <riderplus> !eject
[22:20] <mike_papa> After 10 hours... guys, if you ever have a problem with saned working locally, and not working via network... check your scanner's group, and add saned user to this group.
[22:20] <riderplus> ubottu knows nothing about eject
[22:20] <riderplus> ubottu: lol
[22:20] <riderplus> ok loool
[22:20] <haqe17> riderplus: i tried the eject command, but it just says "eject: unable to find or open device for: `cdrom'
[22:20] <haqe17> guess ill just try restart
[22:20] <riderplus> haqe17: weird
[22:21] <riderplus> can you check its mountpoint?
[22:21] <riderplus> haqe is gone..
[22:22] <biglinux> oi
[22:22] <riderplus> biglinux: that's not #punk channel
[22:23] <jn_> Anyone had problems with awstats not updating visits?
[22:24] <riderplus> !awstats
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> jn_  #ubuntu-server
[22:24] <riderplus> can someone update ubottu?
[22:25] <jn_> thanks
[22:30] <corvaxia> If I wanted access to my media files on my Ubuntu Desktop with my Android devices over wifi, is the best option creating an FTP server?
[22:30] <JoelTheMole> Would anyone be able to help me with an eMac, and Linux on it?
[22:31] <jrib> JoelTheMole: "eMac"?
[22:31] <Noskcaj> JoelTheMole, if it is powerpc please join #ubuntu-powerpc and talk to the mole
[22:31] <Noskcaj> jrib, the old all in ones
 u tried things like ubuntu one and googlemusic ?
[22:32] <JoelTheMole> Ok thanks Noskcaj, will do
[22:32] <jrib> Noskcaj: ah
[22:32] <corvaxia> I would rather not upload them to the cloud and then redownload them.
[22:33] <mjayk> samba shares?
[22:33] <riderplus> corvaxia: if you can handle a ftp server...
[22:34] <corvaxia> Honestly, I can't. I would rather find some more user friendly means of accessing my files over my home wireless network
[22:34] <corvaxia> I will learn more about FTP but only if I have to.
 have you used samba before ? to share folders.
[22:35] <riderplus> corvaxia: mjayk has just suggested something useful to you
[22:36] <montanha> Hey guys, I am having problems with a webcam that is not recognized by the system
[22:36] <corvaxia> Nope. But I will look into it.
[22:36] <bmercer> hello all
[22:36] <bmercer> oddest thing
[22:36] <montanha> Is this the right channel to discuss about it ?
[22:36] <ichat> corvaxia:  - are you just talkin about media files
[22:36] <riderplus> montanha: what do you mean it's not recognized?
[22:36] <bmercer> I have source code pro font installed and when I use it in gnome with compiz it looks great, when I use xfce (preferred) it looks fuzzy
[22:36] <riderplus> dmesg | tail
 possibly :)
[22:37] <corvaxia> ichat: Yes
[22:37] <ichat> corvaxia:  - in that case  you could stream them  to your devices...  via  minidlna for example
[22:37] <riderplus> montanha: pastebin your dmesg | tail
[22:38] <lorddelta> So does ubuntu run (well) on a nexus 7?
[22:38] <lorddelta> Anyone?
[22:38] <k1l_> lorddelta: #ubuntu-arm is the nexus7 and arm specific channel
[22:39] <riderplus> montanha: maybe the system recognized it but didn't mount it
[22:39] <riderplus> it happens
[22:39] <mjayk> lorddelta> not tried it wanna try it on my transformer though
[22:39] <lorddelta> k1l_: sorry thnx
[22:39] <lorddelta> mjayk: lol
[22:40] <corvaxia> Sounds like I have my reading list. Samba, miniDLNA and MediaTomb. Thanks
[22:41] <montanha> wait a moment
[22:41] <ichat> corvaxia:  - samba i wouldnt recoment,   if its for media charing only...  it has some overhead that,  things like  mediatomb  approach diferently...
[22:43] <montanha> riderplus: http://pastebin.com/uXtQ8HeU
[22:43] <ichat> corvaxia:  -  FYI - even VLC is capable of streaming  audio / video  to  your mobile devices...
[22:45] <corvaxia> ichat: So VLC would solve accessing my A/V files. One other file I would like to access are my pdfs cbrs and epubs
[22:47] <serp_> what is mimi dlna
[22:48] <serp_> ??
[22:48] <lorddelta> ubuntu on arm must be bad...pretty quiet in there...
[22:48] <k1l_> lorddelta: that is caused by the fact, that ubuntu on arm is in development status and not a final release.
[22:49] <lorddelta> ahk
[22:50] <fabrizziop> Hi to all, I've just got a simple question, I have two GPUs which are configured and working for number crunching (bitcoin), but the system somehow believes there are two monitors (it's weird because in the screen settings it shows only one monitor) and allows for the mouse cursor to go to the other "screen", and that becomes a hassle as you can accidentally get the cursor there. Is there any way
[22:51] <fabrizziop> I can stop the cursor from going to the other "screen"?, like a stop or anything
[22:51] <ikonia> fabrizziop: nvidia by any chance ?
[22:51] <fabrizziop> ati/amd, a 5770 and a 5830, using 12.8 driver I think
[22:52] <ikonia> odd never seen that with ati
[22:52] <ikonia> fabrizziop: basically hardcoding one screen either in the config tool or the xorg.conf should solve your problem
[22:52] <fabrizziop> that's what I was thinking, but in the xorg.conf what can I add to "ignore" the second screen?
[22:53] <ikonia> fabrizziop: you don't need to tell it to ignore, you just need to tell it there is only one configured
[22:53] <fabrizziop> ohh, you mean deleting the other screen from the xorg.conf?
[22:55] <Guest30301> Little elp here im booting live ubuntu 10.X and for some reason i cant chmod 755 filename  to a file in the usb stick
[22:55] <k1l_> !rootirc > Guest30301
[22:56] <Guest30301> I know the small live boot im using is only root access.
[22:57] <k1l_> use a proper ubuntu live system, that will solve the problems :/
[22:57] <Guest30301> Any reason i can chmod a ile i created even with sudo ?
[22:57] <bekks> Guest30301: read-only filesystem.
[22:58] <Guest30301> they take to long to boot lol
[22:58] <ikonia> Guest30301: where is the file you created
[22:58] <Guest30301> in my us drive
[22:58] <ikonia> and what is 10.x ? 10.04, 10.10 ?
[22:58] <Guest30301> 10.10
[22:58] <ikonia> Guest30301: ok, so the first thing to consider is that 10.10 is EOL, so you may want to change that
[22:58] <ikonia> Guest30301: where is the file you are creating being saved ?
[22:58] <k1l_> its a non ubuntu live system. so we cant know what they changed there. besides running X as root
[22:59] <ikonia> he said it was ubuntu ?
[22:59] <ikonia> unless I've miss-read
[22:59] <Guest30301> Well its not ment to use on a system with internet access this is just a all i got moment lol
[22:59] <k1l_> i dont know o f a ubuntu live system that only got root access
[22:59] <ikonia> he could have just become root
[22:59] <Ziber> I'm dual booting Windows 7 and Ubuntu. I want to extend my ubuntu parition. Is there a safe way to do this leaving Windows completely unharmed?
[23:00] <Guest30301> its 10.10 B5 R3 live
[23:00] <ikonia> !info xchat
[23:00] <ikonia> ahhh backtrack
[23:00] <ikonia> Guest30301: ok, so #backtrack-linux is where you need to be
[23:00] <ikonia> Guest30301: join #backtrack-linux and they will help you
[23:00] <Guest30301> okay thank you for your time
[23:01] <Guest30301>  Cannot join #backtrack-linux (You are banned)  WTF
[23:01] <ikonia> Guest30301: you need to register
[23:01] <ikonia> !register | Guest30301
[23:01] <Guest30301> i have a username i just forget how to login lol its a wierd day
[23:04] <d4rkh4nd> nvm ill do it when i get home lol
[23:04] <d4rkh4nd> thank you all fo rthe help
[23:08] <dylan_> hey, when I go to download the latest updates for ubuntu 12.10 I get this "Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lintian/lintian_2.5.11ubuntu12.10.1_all.deb 404  Not Found"
[23:08] <Muphrid> dylan_: did you apt-get update?
[23:09] <dylan_> Muphrid: No, I used "Software Updater"
[23:09] <ikonia> dylan_: that file is not there
[23:09] <dylan_> So how do I prevent it from looking for that file?
[23:10] <dylan_> weird
[23:10] <dylan_> I think it just worked
[23:10] <ikonia> dylan_: you'll have to either a.) remove that package b.) pin that packages version c.) wait for them to either update hte package on the server or update their contents file
[23:10] <ikonia> dylan_: http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/
[23:10] <dylan_> it just worked
[23:10] <dylan_> hmmm
[23:10] <ikonia> dylan_: open that in a browser, you'll see the file is not there
[23:10] <jrib> dylan_: make sure you ran "sudo apt-get update"
[23:11] <Surkow|laptop> so guys, started looking into sessions. The gnome-fallback session seems to use gnome-wm as window manager, which in turn is compiz
[23:11] <dylan_> let me go do that when this finished
[23:11] <dylan_> finishes*
[23:11] <Surkow|laptop> now I need to figure out why gnome-wm starts without errors
[23:11] <Surkow|laptop> but does not actually create borders
[23:11] <Surkow|laptop> mutter and metacity do actually create borders when using gnome classic
[23:12] <zoogoo> how do i remove icons from the menu bar?
[23:12] <dylan_> right click on them
[23:12] <dylan_> and click "unlock from launcher"
[23:12] <dylan_> That should do it
[23:12] <ProfessorBacon> shit
[23:12] <zoogoo> the right click only comes up with launch and properties
[23:13] <dylan_> Weird
[23:13] <angelpossum> hey on defocus_unsensored it wont let me send a message
[23:13] <nova> https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/promote-use-free-software-our-schools-libre-office-gimp-gnu-cash-and-other-gpl-software-which-cost/T1xGw1fZ
[23:13] <ikonia> ProfessorBacon: no need for that language and it's not welcome
[23:13] <ikonia> nova: we don't need to see that link please.
[23:13] <jrib> angelpossum: #freenode can help you with that
[23:13] <ProfessorBacon> too late.  i saw the link.
[23:13] <dylan_> nova: post that to ##ubuntu-offtopic or ##club-ubuntu
[23:13] <nova> ikonia, Yoi know whats that ?
[23:14] <ikonia> nova: pardon ?
[23:14] <nova> dylan_, Sure
[23:14] <k1l_> !ot > nova
[23:14] <ProfessorBacon> yay new channels!! thanks dylan
[23:36] <travelpc> Hello
 hello
[23:41] <elx> guys I have ubuntu installed on one partition and now want to install windows 8 on a second partition, now the ubuntu partition is set to primary
[23:41] <malkauns> how do i disable the annoying three-finger drag window move feature in ubuntu?
[23:41] <elx> does it make any difference if i select the one for windows also primary?
[23:42] <jrib> !synaptics | malkauns
[23:42] <malkauns> k
[23:42] <elx> what are the rules regarding setting primary/secondary in this case, i have googled it but couldn't find a clear answer
[23:43] <ikonia> elx: primary / extended doesn't matter
[23:43] <elx> ikonia, ok thank you :)
[23:44] <malkauns> jrib, that doesn't help :(
[23:45] <lickalott> Samba or NFS in terms of speed.  Which do you prefer?
[23:45] <ikonia> lickalott: depends on many things
[23:45] <ikonia> lickalott: work out what's best for your needs
[23:45] <fabrizziop_alt> sorry for bothering again, but what can I place into xorg.conf to ignore a display in a dual-gpu setup?
[23:46] <lickalott> samba is being a pain.  NFS it up and running already,  but at the cost of speed i will continue working to get samba right.  i've googled the speed thing and there are mixed reviews.  literally right down the middle.
[23:47] <lickalott> wanted to know what the "big brains" thought
[23:47] <ikonia> lickalott: it depends on a lot of things
[23:47] <ikonia> lickalott: probably why the reviews are mixed
[23:48] <lickalott> i'm keeping NFS for a view dirs (streaming movies, etc...) but the samba folder would be for data storage/movement
[23:48] <ikonia> lickalott: to be honest you'll hit more issues with your own network and disk speed than the actual transfer protocol unless you are on an enterprise network
[23:48] <ikonia> lickalott: I'd just consider which provides the best functionality for your needs
[23:48] <ikonia> lickalott: I don't see a need for both, you seem to be making it over complex
[23:48] <lickalott> k.  i need to get samba back up first then i'll do a side by side.
[23:49] <lickalott> ikonia i have a raspberry pi setup as an HTPC and the speed of streaming 1080p is affected by samba for some reason.
[23:49] <ikonia> lickalott: I suspect it's limited more by your rasberry
[23:49] <Magiobiwan> You're using a Pi as a SERVER?
[23:50] <ikonia> and the fact that the network card is on the same bus as your usb controller
[23:50] <lickalott> not really a server Magiobiwan.
[23:50] <ikonia> lickalott: are you using a usb disk plugged in ?
[23:50] <lickalott> just have it setup on the network with Xbian.
[23:50] <Magiobiwan> Server like thing.
[23:50] <lickalott> negative ikonia it's all over the network
[23:51] <ikonia> lickalott: how much ram is in your PI ?
[23:51] <lickalott> my ubuntu server is storing the files/movies
[23:51] <lickalott> it's a revA so 256 irrc.  but i bumped it up to 380
[23:51] <ikonia> bumped it ?
[23:52] <lickalott> you can edit a config to essentially overclock
[23:52] <ikonia> you soldered more ram on ?
[23:52] <ikonia> err that doesn't give you "more" ram
[23:52] <ikonia> you can't overclock the ammount of ram
[23:52] <lickalott> physically there is only 256
[23:52] <ikonia> right, so how have you given it more ?
[23:52] <lickalott> same way you would overclock a cpu in the bios
[23:53] <mbrownnyc> hello all, I've just completed installing the latest stable on an thinkpad x40, and I don't seem to have any desktop appearing
[23:53] <ikonia> errr that doen't give you "more ram"
[23:53] <mbrownnyc> i have a mouse cursor and what appears to be the background
[23:53] <lickalott> i never said "more ram".  I said i bumped it up.  you said "more ram"  ;P
[23:53] <mbrownnyc> I was able to authenticate as my user, but now I have nothing
[23:54] <ikonia> lickalott: so when you said bumped it up, you mean you increased the clock speed ?
[23:54] <mbrownnyc> compiz crashed and research showed that may be related to the graphics controller, but it's okay since I don't really need to use compiz
[23:54] <bekks> lickalott: So how did you "bump it up" then?
[23:54] <mbrownnyc> if anyone has any suggestions it would be appreciated as this setup is a gift
[23:54] <lequeu_m> Hi there, I've a little problem with the grep command, i want to display only the text after the maching pattern, if i search "foo" in "foo bar", i want " bar" to be displayed, is that possible, Thanks
[23:54] <ikonia> the pi has no bios
[23:54] <lickalott> true ikonia
[23:54] <lickalott> its just a config file
[23:55] <Limpan999> Lol
[23:55] <Limpan999> Whaddup?
[23:57] <Guest39608> quit
[23:57] <Guest39608> exit
[23:57] <mbrownnyc> lequeu_m: i don't think that's what grep is used for
[23:57] <mbrownnyc> lequeu_m: look at sed and awk
[23:57] <lickalott> Guest39608  ??
[23:57] <Guest39608> =) sorry
[23:57]  * mbrownnyc is sorry


[17:49] <federico> i've made a script to autochange the mac-address and i'd like publish it. How can do this?