[04:36] <moonunit> opitwin,  umm, i had an old linux install that i want to use, i put the new card in, and i cant get back on my install, im on a live disk right now
[04:36] <|cerebellum|> anyone know if there is a gnome IRC channel anywhere?
[04:36] <AreEmmKay> I'm not sure where to buy a mouse at 10:36 EST ;)
[04:36] <plagerism> What is the irc channel for ubuntu compiz related chatter??
[04:37] <defunkt> !gimpshop
[04:37] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, defunkt
[04:37] <troy_s> plagerism:  try ubuntu-xgl
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> AreEmmKay, Isn't Best Buy open until 11?
[04:37] <dreamcatcher> eth0 Ling encap: ethernet Hwaddr "physical adress" inet address "ip" Bcast "iP" subnet mask "" up broadcast multicast mtu : 1492 metric 1 rx tx 40 errors and mase adress
[04:37] <homeless> hi all
[04:37] <AreEmmKay> hmm
[04:37] <nickrud> AreEmmKay, your only hope is a friend who'll deliver
[04:37] <KarlsBerg> Anybody use ralink USB adapter ? C54RU.. i install RT73 ralink drivers and see a interfaces on iwconfig but dont run at set parameters essid "lala" etc... but dont see a complete info.. anybody can help me? look the rare info: http://pastebin.com/768929  i try to up with gnome network admin and my system frozen !
[04:37] <dreamcatcher> ??\
[04:37] <dreamcatcher> ??
[04:38] <xuexiewen> where can i download the java enviromant please
[04:38] <tritium> xuexiewen: dapper multiverse
[04:38] <opitwin> AreEmmKay: You can get one later and try it.
[04:38] <troy_s> ubotu, tell xuexiewen about java
[04:38] <AreEmmKay> Is this a known issue then? iBook trackpads are slow?
[04:38] <moonunit> i need help with an ati graphics card, im on a live disk and it wont work with my existing linux install
[04:38] <troy_s> moonunit:  i think you are sool without a full install
[04:39] <homeless> Is there anyone using Ubuntu 6.06 on Dell C840 ?
[04:39] <opitwin> moonunit: Did you try reinstalling
[04:39] <tritium> homeless: not anymore, but I used to have one
[04:39] <moonunit> troy_s, opitwin, do i have to?
[04:39] <homeless> I have a problem about modem.
[04:39] <nickrud> I don't know about ibook trackpads, just how to getting a mouse late at night worked
[04:39] <AreEmmKay> ah, ;)
[04:40] <opitwin> moonunit: yes, and install the driver to.
[04:40] <moonunit> opitwin, there has to be an easier way to do it
[04:40] <AreEmmKay> Best Buy closes at 9 here
[04:40] <opitwin> moonunit: did you install the driver
[04:40] <moonunit> opitwin, i dont even know where to start, the card is a radeon 7000
[04:41] <troy_s> moonunit:  ati is closed source and proprietary, so even if there were an easy way, the EULA would prevent ubuntu from including it.
[04:41] <opitwin> moonunit: to learn how to install the driver go to wiki.ubuntu.com/video
[04:41] <tritium> moonunit: follow the wiki page.  That's as easy as it gets
[04:41] <troy_s> moonunit:  ultimately, it is a good reason to send mail to ati regarding the open source movement.
[04:41] <ijeff> hoelz: my dial already controls master volume, i just need to change that to PCM
[04:41] <KarlsBerg> Anybody use ralink USB adapter ? C54RU.. i install RT73 ralink drivers and see a interfaces on iwconfig but dont run at set parameters essid "lala" etc... but dont see a complete info.. anybody can help me? look the rare info: http://pastebin.com/768929  i try to up with gnome network admin and my system frozen !
[04:42] <troy_s> karlsberg:  check malone first for bugs.
[04:42] <NickGarvey> how would I specify where wget downloads its files too? like if I am in the dir / but I want to dowload to ~, how would I do that
[04:42] <troy_s> !bugs
[04:42] <tritium> KarlsBerg: please quit repeating that long paste to often
[04:42] <troy_s> nickgarvey:  man wget
[04:42] <tritium> s/to/so
[04:42] <troy_s> s/to/too
[04:43] <KarlsBerg> troy_s:  malone ?
[04:43] <troy_s> or so i guess ;)
[04:43] <troy_s> !malone
[04:43] <NickGarvey> troy_s: I have read it, and its so long I can't find what I am looking for
[04:43] <NickGarvey> troy_s: I have read it 2 times
[04:43] <tritium> troy_s: I meant so, not too, but either work
[04:43] <planetcall> Any good dictionary application with good frontend and comprehensive multi dictionary support ? I have used KDict ... anyother ?
[04:43] <planetcall> for gnome !
[04:43] <tritium> planetcall: there's a dictionary applet that you can add to the panel
[04:43] <gavagai> is it safe to run different instances of apt simultaneously?  e.g. two admins at once, or one admin in two shells
[04:43] <nickrud> ijeff, sorry I thought it was obious, cuz I use gnome. Scroll thru the selections in the volumn manager prefs (right click the volume contro) and you will find PCM. click it, then click close
[04:44] <planetcall> tritium, I want offline dictionary...like kdict
[04:44] <Hexidigital_> anyone know how to get rhythmbox to stream .mp3 sites? (i have the codecs correctly installed)
[04:44] <nickrud> gavagai, can't even be done, apt watches for that
[04:44] <troy_s> nickgarvey:  pretty sure it is just wget source dest no?
[04:44] <gavagai> oh ok
[04:44] <gavagai> thanks
[04:44] <ijeff> nickrud: i did, it doesn't change anything
[04:44] <gavagai> i didn't want to learn anything by first experience.
[04:44] <troy_s> hexidigital:  if you had the mp3 decoder installed correctly, it wouldn't be an issue.
[04:45] <NickGarvey> troy_s: I thought so too. didn't work
[04:45] <Hexidigital_> troy_s:: hmm... something is wrong then... thanks
[04:45] <troy_s> nickgarvey: hrm... strange.
[04:45] <troy_s> hexidigital:  you have the gstreamer stuffs?
[04:45] <Hexidigital_> troy_s:: yes
[04:45] <planetcall> anyone for my problem ? a good offline dictionary...if someone uses..
[04:45] <JasonF> I just booted up the ubuntu livecd, for install, and it loaded in 640 resolution
[04:45] <JasonF> i'd like to get it working with something larger, if possible
[04:45] <NickGarvey> !wget
[04:45] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[04:45] <troy_s> hexidigital:  i can't remember what library rhythm uses... try the other decoders too.
[04:45] <moonunit> troy_s, opitwin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI , but can i do that without a window manger?
[04:45] <ron_>  error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory <--?? plz
[04:45] <troy_s> hexidigital:  or just try a logout to reset the gstreamer settings.
[04:45] <Hexidigital_> troy_s:: nevermind.. i had to restart rhythmbox
[04:46] <xuexiewen> help  why i can't play mp3 in ubuntu
[04:46] <troy_s> hexi:  yep
[04:46] <Hexidigital_> troy_s:: thanks :)
[04:46] <troy_s> ubotu, tell xuexiewen about mp3
[04:46] <troy_s> moonunit:  just use the cli
[04:46] <moonunit> troy_s, cli?
[04:46] <skippy> command line interface
[04:46] <skippy> the terminal :)
[04:46] <moonunit> ah
[04:47] <troy_s> moonunit:  in a proper nix environment, you should be able to do EVERYTHING from the _c_ommand _l_ine _I_nterface
[04:47] <jighead> planetcall, if you like kdict, why not use it?
[04:47] <moonunit> troy_s, i can, but thats all i have, x wont start with the new card, hence the problem
[04:47] <troy_s> moonunit:  then you won't have a problem following that list of things.
[04:47] <troy_s> moonunit:  if you want my advice, flip your driver to "vesa"
[04:47] <skippy> moonunit, have you ran "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:47] <bootlick> nessus just messed up on me, lockes up now everytime
[04:47] <troy_s> moonunit:  reboot, and come on back.
[04:47] <NickGarvey> troy_s: I hink I may have it..
[04:47] <planetcall> thanks jighead....i wanted to know if something better is available for gnome. someone might give some idea
[04:47] <gavagai> by default it seems users can read each others directories.  i can fix this manually in the terminal, but is there some kind of systemwide setting for that?  (i'm from mandrake where the "security level" setting would handle this)
[04:48] <xuexiewen> help ,which software can download the data quickly in ubuntu
[04:48] <jighead> planetcall, what about aspell and such?
[04:48] <ThylekShran> narf!!!
[04:48] <troy_s> gavagai:  you can trap users in their home too.
[04:48] <chuckyp> ubotu, i815
[04:48] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chuckyp
[04:48] <NickGarvey> troy_s: wget -q -O - site.com > file.html
[04:48] <skippy> xuexiewen,  try synaptic
[04:48] <jighead> planetcall, aptitude search dictionary
[04:48] <planetcall> is aspell offline dictionary ? I thought it was used as spellchecker in several apps
[04:48] <xnull> hey how can I remove something with force and nodeps?
[04:48] <chuckyp> Anyone know how to fix the borked menus after installing kubuntu-desktop?
[04:48] <troy_s> nickgarvey:  doesn't that just take everything and dump it into a single file?
[04:49] <xnull> something like rpm.. rpm -e --nodeps package
[04:49] <troy_s> nickgarvey:  methinks there is a more elegant solution somewhere.
[04:49] <gavagai> troy_s, cool.  i probably don't need to take it that far.  but where do you set those options?
[04:49] <planetcall> jighead, yeah buddy i did.....there are many alternatives but I would like to know if someone from us (not US) here use any one of them.
[04:49] <jighead> planetcall, you're right, there is a dict client for emacs if you use it
[04:49] <tubbie> how do u lower the (sound server)volume using the command line?
[04:49] <planetcall> jighead, i need an independent offline dict.
[04:49] <troy_s> gavagai: there are a<PHONE_NUMBER> ways to skin that cat.
[04:50] <mardi> hi, i'm having a problem with my ubuntu dapper on a hp laptop, just tried to boot and I get an error: Failed to start message bus: Failed to read directory "/usr/local/share/dbus-1/services" No such file or dirctory. any help?
[04:50] <troy_s> gavagai:  i strongly encourage you to read a little more on groups
[04:50] <skippy> guys does anyone know which logfile keeps a list of logins (especially ssh ones) please?
[04:50] <planetcall> guess what.......there is a software named "latrine" to teach linguistic skills !!!
[04:50] <cartur25> Hey guys, I'm trying to install kpodder - when I type "make" in the untarballed directory I get "command not found" why is that?
[04:50] <xnull> hey how can I remove something with force and nodeps?
[04:50] <xuexiewen> which one can open the .rpm
[04:50] <troy_s> skippy:  uh authlog off the top of my head.
[04:50] <planetcall> lol......!!
[04:50] <troy_s> skippy let me look
[04:50] <jighead> skippy, /var/log/auth.log
[04:50] <skippy> troy_s and jighead thx
[04:50] <troy_s> there you go :)
[04:51] <gavagai> troy_s, oh yeah i know.  i was just wondering if there's like some ubuntu 'control panel' in the gui that sets those levels.  but yeah i know about groups, chmod, umask, all that good stuff.  :)
[04:51] <tritium> xuexiewen: why are you installing a .rpm?
[04:51] <bootlick> redhat vs ubuntu, which will run better on an older machine
[04:51] <troy_s> cartur25:  you need build essential.
[04:51] <cartur25> What is that
[04:51] <DaGr8Tim> Anyone know about 3com ethernet cards and getting them to work?
[04:51] <troy_s> gavagai:  there is a gnome app for that, but i don't think it is with the default install
[04:51] <gavagai> i haven't even seen the gui yet, i installed 'server' and am getting ubuntu-desktop now
[04:51] <tubbie> how do u lower the (sound server)volume using the command line?
[04:51] <troy_s> gavagai:  you can use the lovely debian packages to get it pretty sure... try apt-cache search keyword
[04:51] <gavagai> speaking of which, i am gettting a million little errors after each font package it installs, 'cannot open default config file'.  does that just mean i don't have a config file because i never had X?
[04:51] <cartur25> troy_s: Is build essential the command I should use instead of make ?
[04:52] <gavagai> troy_s, thanks.  ;)
[04:52] <troy_s> gavagai:  yah i don' tlike the renaming of the damn isos... a little more complicated than needs be.
[04:52] <tritium> build-essential is a package you can install
[04:52] <troy_s> cartur25:  no, build-essential is a metapackage that has the basic build tools.
[04:52] <troy_s> cartur25:  you will need more possibly as well... but that should get you started.
[04:52] <cartur25> ok. Is there an apt-get command I can execute to install that?
[04:52] <troy_s> bootlick:  you are in an ubuntu channel, guess what you will get recommended.
[04:52] <jighead> DaGr8Tim, they should work out of the box, are you getting errors?
[04:53] <troy_s> cartur25:  very hot.  very very hot.
[04:53] <cartur25> What?
[04:53] <troy_s> cartur25:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:53] <chuckyp> IS the server install just a minimal install?
[04:53] <NickGarvey> whats a command to just say the date?
[04:53] <troy_s> chuckyp: yes.
[04:53] <NickGarvey> like not the time or that extra crap
[04:53] <mo0se> so... uhh... i got no sound... with dapper...
[04:53] <troy_s> nickgarvey:  date is all you got
[04:53] <troy_s> nickgarvey:  and there are multiple syntax forms for it.
[04:53] <n_i_c_k> What to do if on boot, the PC will no longer boot from the hard disk?
[04:53] <chuckyp> troy_s, so just kernel no bs
[04:53] <xuexiewen> tritium:because some software i just find it with .rpm
[04:54] <chuckyp> troy_s, no desktop etc...
[04:54] <troy_s> mo0se:  need sound chipset info etc before anyone can help.
[04:54] <mo0se> troy: i have no idea.
[04:54] <chuckyp> troy_s, also no apache or any of that stuff righ?
[04:54] <mo0se> how do i find that out?
[04:54] <troy_s> chuckyp:  yes.  although apt-get is pretty simple to add the metapackage ubuntu-desktop
[04:54] <ron_>  error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory <--?? plz
[04:54] <Dow> buddies, i is green hand at ubuntu. i wanna install and try it. one quest, my old laptop(t20, 128m memory, PIII 700) can run ubuntu, or not?
[04:54] <mo0se> i know that in windows i installed sigmatel audio drivers.
[04:54] <troy_s> chuckyp:  there are some distros out there with 65 dvds of stuff, ubuntu uses apt-get to let you easily add it.
[04:54] <babo> how do I set up my irssi to use my socks port at localhost:9050 ... ?
[04:54] <chuckyp> troy_s, Yeah i'm just going to download that because I don't really need the full cd.  I can't believe the minimal cd is 400 megs.
[04:54] <troy_s> mo0se:  getting closer.  use the cli and lspci
[04:54] <DaGr8Tim> jighead, Device manager lists the mac address, but the network settings shows nothing
[04:54] <jighead> NickGarvey, date +%D
[04:55] <mo0se> what's cli and lspci?
[04:55] <mo0se> i'm still kind of new to linux.
[04:55] <johnsie> hi.. if I install ubuntu onto a hard disk and then put the hard disk in another machine will it work?
[04:55] <troy_s> chuckyp:  well 'minimal' accomodates a bunch of different hardware right?
[04:55] <jighead> NickGarvey, take a look at the man pages and you should be able to tweak the stuff after the +% to get exactly what you want
[04:55] <chuckyp> troy_s, true I guess.
[04:55] <troy_s> johnsie:  assuming it is the same architecture.
[04:55] <mo0se> !cli
[04:55] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[04:55] <troy_s> mo0se:  BINGO
[04:55] <mo0se> !lspci
[04:55] <ubotu> mo0se: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:55] <mo0se> heheh.
[04:55] <Goeland86_> so I've got a wifi card that works with ndiswrapper, but the driver loaded for it is the wrong one. It assumes it's a broadcom card. where would I change that? this is on dapper drake
[04:56] <johnsie> can it be a different motherboard?
[04:56] <chuckyp> troy_s, is there a net install iso?
[04:56] <apm> hi all, Somebody knows what parameters it is necessary to specify in " modprobe saa7134 card =? " For beholder 407?
[04:56] <troy_s> mo0se:  sorry to seem vague, but if you really want to contribute to the computer movement, you can up your knowledge significantly by learning the cli.
[04:56] <jighead> DaGr8Tim, pastebin your /etc/networking/interfaces file
[04:56] <mo0se> i never called it the cli.
[04:56] <troy_s> apm:  no clue.  google.
[04:56] <Dow> Hola
[04:56] <mo0se> i've used the terminal before.
[04:56] <mo0se> :-P
[04:56] <elake> what can I do to enable sound in firefox?
[04:56] <troy_s> mo0se:  its a bit of a more generic term than the specific xterm, aterm, etcterm, etc
[04:56] <Goeland86_> elake, what sound?
[04:57] <troy_s> elake:  too vague.  you mean flash?
[04:57] <johnsie> meh... I'm gonna try it anyway...  I'd really like to uninstall the games, get the new version of BT, etc.
[04:57] <babo> Does anyone else find tor ridiculously slow ... :-(
[04:57] <Goeland86_> elake, detail what sounds aren't working
[04:57] <Cornellius> ^=?
[04:57] <troy_s> cornellius:  if you run a computer, security is an issue.
[04:57] <krazykit> Cornellius: not really.
[04:57] <ron_> can anyone help? i installed tremulous but i get that error when i try to run it. :(
[04:57] <babo> completely unusable ...
[04:57] <troy_s> cornellius:  no matter what os you run.
[04:57] <elake> when i down load a video it should play in the mplayer or totem plugin but i dont get sound
[04:57] <elake> same with java based games
[04:57] <NickGarvey> troy_s: I have no idea what it is talking about, how would I just get the date?, I don't know where to set "FORMAT", I tried "FORMAT=%u date" but no luck
[04:57] <tonyyarusso> Cornellius, A very small number.  As in, count on your fingers, can't do much damage.  Human hackers are the bigger problem than viruses.
[04:57] <Dow> hello, who use T20 install ubuntu before?
[04:57] <mo0se> okay... the only thing i can see is: 0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[04:57] <cartur25> After installing build essential I get these errors: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! - make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[04:58] <johnsie> I wanna install it in a pentium and then move the hard duisk over to a cyrix but keep the ubuntu installation
[04:58] <Goeland86_> elake, could be because the java plugin or totem plugin isn't configured for it
[04:58] <Goeland86_> check your gnome control panel settings
[04:58] <roostishaw> what would normally be there instead of the ubuntu splash?
[04:58] <spikeb> johnsie: that should work fine
[04:58] <elake> how do i configure that
[04:58] <Goeland86_> roostishaw, a gnome splash
[04:58] <troy_s> cartur25:  you need the -dev of various libs.
[04:58] <johnsie> thanks it'll be fun to try  :-)
[04:58] <spikeb> johnsie: you'll have to reconfigure your video card, but everything else should be fine
[04:58] <planetcall> Ok...i found a good offline dictionary for gnome.......called StarDict. chk out peeps if you need it :)
[04:58] <Goeland86_> elake, system -> preferences -> sounds
[04:58] <mo0se> does that mean that ubuntu has the wrong drivers?
[04:58] <Goeland86_> or sound
[04:59] <jighead> NickGarvey, date +%d
[04:59] <roostishaw> Geoland86, by 'ubuntu splash' i mean the screen on startup with the progress bar
[04:59] <Goeland86_> anyone know where I'd go to configure the automatic hardware handling? it's mishandling my wifi card
[04:59] <NickGarvey> jighead: ah ha! I see, it was at the syntax at the top ,thank you very much
[04:59] <troy_s> nickgarvey:  it basically requires a set of numbers.  %d means decimal, %u unsigned int... there shoudl be examples.
[04:59] <johnsie> hmmm I guess I could switch the video card over too... thanks for pointing that out :-)
[04:59] <mo0se> !sigmatel
[04:59] <XiCillin> check out this screenshot: http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3483/screenshot19oa.png
[04:59] <ubotu> mo0se: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:59] <mo0se> poop.
[04:59] <JohnsonE> i am in dire need of help :(
[04:59] <XiCillin> and this one
[04:59] <XiCillin> http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7530/screenshot21en.png
[04:59] <troy_s> mo0se:  intel sound?
[04:59] <spikeb> johnsie: if you do that, then in theory everything should be flawless
[04:59] <troy_s> johnsone: you are in a good place.
[04:59] <elake> how does that configure the totem or mplayer plugin
[04:59] <Goeland86_> JohnsonE, what's your problem?
[05:00] <troy_s> elake:  the mplayer moz plugin shoudl just 'work.
[05:00] <mo0se> troy: yes. it says intel. but in windows, i have to install the sigmatel audio drivers to get the sound to work.
[05:00] <roostishaw> XiCillin, how did you get the tabs in the term?
[05:00] <troy_s> elake:  assuming mplayer works by itself.
[05:00] <elake> thats what i thought
[05:00] <Goeland86_> troy_s, apparently it doesn't for him
[05:00] <JohnsonE> I'm on the live CD right now, my internet is working WONDERFULLY. when on the hard install, though, my internet works for about 10 seconds and then just stops responding
[05:00] <troy_s> mo0se:  you aren't in windows any more dorothy
[05:00] <Cornellius> tonyyarusso: No but they use Linux to create virus for windows ? :)
[05:00] <cartur25> troy_s: What command do I use to download those -dev files?
[05:00] <Goeland86_> elake, you want to check that all sounds are enabled
[05:00] <troy_s> mo0se:  work on what lspci tells you, it won't lie.
[05:00] <mo0se> troy: i know. but shouldn't my hardware bet he same?
[05:00] <jighead> NickGarvey, date +%F is a good one for just the date too
[05:00] <Goeland86_> elake, does mplayer standalone play sounds?
[05:00] <elake> mplayer and totem both work on their own but not inside firefox
[05:00] <Goeland86_> mmm
[05:00] <elake> yes
[05:00] <NickGarvey> jighead: yup, I get the man file now, thank you
[05:01] <jighead> np
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> Cornellius, Where else will you find decent development tools?
[05:01] <troy_s> cartur25:  first you need to know what one.  it is as easy as 'sudo apt-get install blahlib-dev'
[05:01] <roostishaw> what would normally be there instead of the ubuntu splash with the progress bar?
[05:01] <JohnsonE> repeat: I'm on the live CD right now, my internet is working WONDERFULLY. when on the hard install, though, my internet works for about 10 seconds and then just stops responding
[05:01] <iiiears> JohnsonE: Did you install a firewall? Is it setup correctly?
[05:01] <troy_s> nickgarvey:  did we help you?
[05:01] <JohnsonE> i have no firewall
[05:01] <babo> what port is freenode listening on ?
[05:01] <mo0se> when i used breezy badger the sound worked.
[05:01] <mo0se> poop.
[05:01] <troy_s> johnsone:  hrm that is strange weird.
[05:01] <nerdzyboy> Hi
[05:01] <troy_s> mo0se:  have no fear, it will work again
[05:01] <jighead> roostishaw, something similar to the dmesg output except with OK out to the right
[05:01] <JohnsonE> as far as I know, the network settings on the CD are the exact same as the installation
[05:02] <NickGarvey> jighead, troy_s: :) yes, I have my script working how I want too, thanks a lot
[05:02] <mo0se> where do i start?
[05:02] <troy_s> mo0se:  there is some little problem that needs resolving apparently.  have you tried any other sound apps etc?
[05:02] <roostishaw> jighead, how do i use that instead of the regular upsplash?
[05:02] <nerdzyboy> I just installed vlc and libdvdcss2 but still can't get dvd to play (VLC runs fine but won't open disc)
[05:02] <troy_s> mo0se:  private message me your lspci line again.
[05:02] <nerdzyboy> any idea why?
[05:02] <troy_s> mo0se:  you need your nick registered to do that.
[05:02] <XiCillin> roostishaw: right click over terminal
[05:02] <mo0se> i've tried rythmbox, totem, and firefox.
[05:02] <mo0se> hrm...
[05:02] <srxnr> Okay, i did not make a admin account
[05:02] <troy_s> nerdzyboy:  restart/logon?
[05:02] <roostishaw> ctrl+shift+t
[05:03] <troy_s> nerdzyboy:  if you have the decoder, you are ready to fly.
[05:03] <roostishaw> thx though
[05:03] <srxnr> so what password do i put in "su"
[05:03] <troy_s> srxnr:  sudo is your password as you are a sudoer.
[05:03] <iiiears> JohnsonE: That is a puzzle. - sounds like something is loaded after you log in. - I don't have an answer for you.
[05:03] <nerdzyboy> I'll try restart...
[05:03] <troy_s> srxnr:  su is disabled.  if you know that 'root' is a valid account, that's 50% of your work to hack the 2nd part.
[05:03] <mo0se> can i just pastebin it?
[05:03] <troy_s> mo0se:  if you are that savvy, yep!
[05:03] <JohnsonE> think reinstalling linux would help? I don't have anything important on it
[05:03] <troy_s> johnsone:  no
[05:04] <srxnr> i don't get it
[05:04] <mo0se> heh. i just don't have my nick registered.
[05:04] <jighead> roostishaw, get rid of splash in your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:04] <JohnsonE> it's so strange that it works on the CD but not the install though..
[05:04] <troy_s> johnsone:  this isn't windows.  once you ahve the kernel up, all you need to do is figure out what the problem is.  that might take someone with more knowledge than who is here curently.
[05:04] <srxnr> so no use for su?
[05:04] <ijeff> Is there a way to reset the keyboard shortcuts?
[05:04] <ijeff> Anything I set for volume down won't work
[05:04] <JohnsonE> i haven't added ANYTHING to the system yet
[05:04] <ijeff> whether it be a button or dial
[05:04] <nachovalles> hello
[05:04] <gavagai> srxnr, 'sudo command' will do command as 'root'.  if you need that prompt you can do 'sudo bash'
[05:04] <nachovalles> good night
[05:05] <gavagai> but sudo is a better habit
[05:05] <nachovalles> some body can help me? , I try to install ubunto for x64
[05:05] <iiiears> Johnson - Someone else here may have the answer. ask again. - reloading takes an hour.. shorter than windows by at least an hour but it is a lot of effort.
[05:05] <mo0se> troy: here it is. http://pastebin.com/768989
[05:05] <mo0se> it's line 6.
[05:05] <JohnsonE> ok, reasking the question:
[05:05] <JohnsonE> repeat: I'm on the live CD right now, my internet is working WONDERFULLY. when on the hard install, though, my internet works for about 10 seconds and then just stops responding
[05:05] <srxnr> Okay, great.
[05:05] <nachovalles> but I get this error: NET: Register protocol family 2
[05:05] <spikeb>  if i copy my realplayer codecs to the codecs dir, will totem use them?
[05:06] <ijeff> Is there a way to reset the keyboard shortcuts? Anything I set for volume down won't work  whether it be a button or dial
[05:06] <asad1> can anyone help me get my dwl 650 card working? i am running dapper, i hear it is easy!! i just need help!
[05:06] <srxnr> Now i have a pci radeon card
[05:06] <srxnr> how do i get that to work ;X
[05:06] <troy_s> mo0se:  give me a second... dog nightmare... private msg me
[05:06] <nachovalles> input: AT Translated Set 2 Keyboard on isa 0060/Serio0
[05:06] <cr0wman> hi
[05:06] <nickrud> spikeb, totem-xine should, but the w32codecs has all of realplayer I thought
[05:06] <babo> tor sucks ...
[05:06] <QPAD|warlock> Im currently using ubuntu server 5.10 for intel4 proccesors (i386) which SMP kernel do i need to get both of my processors to work?
[05:06] <mardi> hi, i'm having a problem with my ubuntu dapper on a hp laptop, just tried to boot and I get an error: Failed to start message bus: Failed to read directory "/usr/local/share/dbus-1/services" No such file or dirctory. any help?
[05:06] <mo0se> dog nightmare?
[05:06] <mo0se> O.o
[05:06] <spikeb> nickrud: im not on x86 :)
[05:06] <QPAD|warlock> I have 2 intel xeon proccesors on 64bits.
[05:06] <QPAD|warlock> anyone got any clues ? :)
[05:07] <nachovalles> QPAD|warlock
[05:07] <cr0wman> My upgrade has stalled, any way to get it going agian?
[05:07] <nachovalles> QPAD|warlock yes I'am
[05:07] <nickrud> spikeb, never mind me, then :)
[05:07] <nachovalles> I have an AMD64
[05:07] <ijeff> Is there a way to reset the keyboard shortcuts? Anything I set for volume down won't work  whether it be a button or dial
[05:07] <JohnsonE> ok, quick simple question: How can I log on as owner? My admin account doesn't have full permissions
[05:07] <spikeb> nickrud: i'll just experiment and see :)
[05:07] <nachovalles> but I get this error in the instalation:
[05:07] <nachovalles> NET: Register protocol family 2
[05:07] <nerdzyboy> nope, I still can't play dvds
[05:07] <nickrud> spikeb, and document, I hope ;)
[05:07] <nerdzyboy> could anyone help me?
[05:07] <MTecknology> Is there such thing as a memory scanner for Linux? Somehting that I can scan all memory adresses and rescan until I find the right adress so I can edit it?
[05:07] <spikeb> nickrud: i'll make note if it works, yes
[05:08] <QPAD|warlock> nachovalles, you got the answer for my question ?
[05:08] <made> I'm back, one question then I'm gone..
[05:08] <jighead> QPAD|warlock, kernel-image-2.6.11-9-em64t-p4-smp
[05:08] <JohnsonE> ok, quick simple question: How can I log on as owner? My admin account doesn't have full permissions
[05:08] <iiiears> JohnsonE: It isn't an an answer to your question but my curiosity. Can you ping google.com from the boot screen rminal option?
[05:08] <spikeb> nickrud: and maybe make a package or tarball of the realplayer PPC codecs
[05:08] <nickrud> spikeb, I am not a nag, I swear, it' just that that stuff is in my forbrain right now
[05:08] <spikeb> nickrud: hehe
[05:08] <made> where is the fastest location I can download the latest release of Ubuntu in DVD format
[05:08] <mo0se> JohnsonE: just use sudo.
[05:08] <JohnsonE> iiiears: I tried that while my connection was off and none of the packets sent. i couldn't ping my router either.
[05:08] <cr0wman> My upgrade has stalled, any way to get it going agian?
[05:08] <mo0se> made: bittorrent.
[05:09] <Madpilot> JohnsonE, use sudo and your own account's password
[05:09] <asad1> wireless anybody?
[05:09] <JohnsonE> thank you
[05:09] <MTecknology> JohnsonE, root is the admin account, if you are using Ubuntu, you need to enable root login
[05:09] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell JohnsonE about sudo
[05:09] <made> mo0se: thx
[05:09] <MTecknology> JohnsonE, sudo is far better
[05:09] <nerdzyboy> anyone?
[05:09] <mo0se> i wonder if troy 'sploded...
[05:09] <jonathan1> !sources
[05:09] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[05:10] <jonathan1> !easysource
[05:10] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:10] <nachovalles> somebody can help with the ubuntu for AMD64
[05:10] <nachovalles> ?
[05:11] <Cerveza> when I run glxinfo I get the following error: Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[05:11] <Cerveza> anyone know what that is?
[05:11] <intelikey> upon running   gnome-session --display :0   X crashed with this message.    Fatal server error:
[05:11] <intelikey> Caught signal 11.  Server aborting
[05:11] <troy_s> mo0se: you there bro?
[05:11] <mo0se> yup.
[05:11] <mo0se> i'm reading the forums.
[05:11] <nachovalles> somebody can help with the ubuntu for AMD64?
[05:11] <mo0se> !alsa
[05:11] <ubotu> alsa is probably http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[05:11] <spikeb> nickrud: it worked, by the way
[05:12] <nachovalles> some body can help me? , I try to install ubunto for x64
[05:12] <nachovalles> but I get this error in the instalation:
[05:12] <mo0se> what's up, troy?
[05:12] <nachovalles> NET: Register protocol family 2
[05:12] <nachovalles> input: AT Translated Set 2 Keyboard on isa 0060/Serio0
[05:12] <troy_s> mo0se:  well lspci spots it and likes it.
[05:12] <troy_s> mo0se:  and your volume etc is all up normal?
[05:12] <mo0se> yup.
[05:12] <JohnsonE> is there anything that starts up with linux by default that could at all restrict my connection? This is bothering me so much :O
[05:12] <troy_s> nachovalles:  strange, and it just stops?
[05:13] <troy_s> mo0se:  i would poke around that alsa issue
[05:13] <jighead> intelikey, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:13] <nickrud> spikeb, restricted formats doesn't really deal well with different cpu types, a note might be welcome
[05:13] <mo0se> i guess i'll just try different stuff.
[05:13] <troy_s> mo0se:  try teh obvious stuff first
[05:13] <ron_> how do i change file permissions to writable for user?
[05:13] <spikeb> nickrud: i'll take a look at it
[05:13] <nachovalles> troy_s , yes, do u know why?
[05:13] <troy_s> mo0se:  there really shouldn't be an issue with that card... try setting your multimedia settings and such in the gui panel.
[05:13] <iiiears> intelikey - It looks like your hardware was misidentified. - could it be that the wrong card is selected?
[05:14] <intelikey> jighead thats where the error message came from
[05:14] <QPAD|war-away> Is there a way to refresh your current ip? or perhaps open some ports? (my game-servers doesnt seem to go outside the LAN, any clues?)
[05:14] <troy_s> nachovalles:  it appears as though it is a keyboard error.
[05:14] <v|nc3> has anyone here used vdr
[05:14] <nerdzyboy> Can anyone help me getting dvds to play?
[05:14] <jighead> intelikey, have you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[05:14] <intelikey> iiiears not with only one card...
[05:14] <QPAD|war-away> Anyone ?
[05:14] <cartur25_> troy_s: I read over the intallation site (http://www.leonscape.co.uk/linux/kpodder/index.html) but I can't find any dev files - how do I figure out which ones I need?
[05:14] <iiiears> intelikey - Okay. i
[05:15] <troy_s> cartur25:  when your make fails, go to the TOPMOST error and look there.
[05:15] <intelikey> jighead no.  there is nothing wrong with X.
[05:15] <nachovalles> troy_s, but why
[05:15] <gavagai> My sound works---i can use mp3blaster in the console.  but i just installed ubuntu-desktop, and in gnome there is a red X or whatever one the volume thing, and no sound
[05:15] <shodanjr_gr> do you guys think that 512 megs of ram should be enough for Dapper to run smooth on an Althon 1400+ mobile?
[05:15] <stevej> Nerdzy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:15] <ron_> helep plz, how do i change file permission to writable for user?
[05:15] <troy_s> cartur25:  it will usually say something like blah header not found.  then you add the lib-dev
[05:15] <troy_s> shodan:  heck ya
[05:15] <intelikey> jighead the Xserver was running fine.  starting gnome-session is what brought it down.
[05:15] <shodanjr_gr> its sluggish with 256 and im thinking of upgrading but im a bit straped for cash atm
[05:15] <gavagai> it says "no volume control plugins or devices"
[05:16] <gavagai> but i have a working soundcard
[05:16] <troy_s> nachovalles:  no idea... at least that is the last error it is reporting.  you might want to raise that as a bug if it doesn't already exist at malone.
[05:16] <Hexidigital_> anyone else lagging badly?
[05:16] <troy_s> !dvd
[05:16] <cartur25_> After I type make, I only get this error: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[05:16] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[05:16] <nachovalles> I try install that ubunto in a HP Pavilion ze2000 laptop
[05:16] <Drasla> can someone help me out with a bash script?  I feel like I'm missing something really obvious.
[05:16] <troy_s> nachovalles:  yes, but perhaps your region is causing an error.
[05:16] <jonathan1> !matrox
[05:16] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jonathan1
[05:16] <QPAD|war-away> Is there a way to refresh your current ip? or perhaps open some ports? (my game-servers doesnt seem to go outside the LAN, any clues?)
[05:16] <troy_s> nachovalles:  your locale is possibly triggering a bungle in the script or something...
[05:16] <asad1> anyone available for wireless help?
[05:17] <troy_s> qpad:  too vague.  your lan on a router?
[05:17] <nachovalles> troy_s maby the kernel need a parameter in the instalation
[05:17] <spikeb> nickrud: i'll update the wiki page tomorrow most likely
[05:17] <stevej> Drasla: What's up?
[05:17] <troy_s> nachovalles:  well i suspect it is an easy thing nacho, try a different language for the time?
[05:17] <troy_s> nachovalles:  or is that right at boot?
[05:17] <heartinsnow> how can i turn off the warning bell in emacs?
[05:17] <Servo888> How do I echo text into a file that is spit out my some application from the terminal?
[05:17] <Hexidigital_> asad1:: what kind of wireless card?
[05:17] <iiiears> QPAD|war-away: Iptables controls open ports. Firestarter is a GUI that  edits the iptables file for you.
[05:17] <nickrud> spikeb, great. the more architectures that page covers, the harder it will be to keep clear :)
[05:17] <troy_s> QPAD:  is your LAN on a router?
[05:17] <JohnsonE> repeat: I'm on the live CD right now, my internet is working WONDERFULLY. when on the hard install, though, my internet works for about 10 seconds and then just stops responding. what could be causing this?
[05:18] <jighead> intelikey, was this after a dapper upgrade?
[05:18] <nachovalles> troy_s is in the beginig in the instalation
[05:18] <troy_s> johnsone:  you really need to start at malone looking for a bug.
[05:18] <intelikey> jighead fluxbox is now connected to the xserver  working fine.    any thought on what might be wrong with gnome ?
[05:18] <troy_s> nachovalles:  you have zero input?  did you check your media first using md5sum?
[05:18] <JohnsonE> malone? :O
[05:18] <_mason> Ive stupidly installed an application that isnt in synaptic, how can i go about uninstalling it ? (it was a .bin)
[05:18] <intelikey> jighead no.   hoary.
[05:18] <troy_s> johnsone:  www.launchpad.net/malone
[05:18] <JohnsonE> thank you
[05:18] <troy_s> !bugs
[05:19] <troy_s> c'mon ubotu
[05:19] <jighead> intelikey, it seems some folks are having issues upon upgrade bug #20371
[05:19] <nickrud> _mason, if the .bin doesn't have a built in uninstall, it'll really depend on what bin it was.
[05:19] <Madpilot> troy_s, !bug
[05:19] <Hexidigital_> !bug
[05:19] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[05:19] <chris__> good evening
[05:19] <troy_s> ahh... thanks madly
[05:19] <nachovalles> troy_s and where I use the md5sum? in the instalation?
[05:19] <BlackadderNZ> hi
[05:19] <nachovalles> or how?
[05:19] <chris__> i am an ubuntu convert and just wanted to say hi to everyone
[05:19] <spikeb> hi chris_!
[05:19] <Hexidigital_> hi, chris_
[05:19] <cartur25_> troy_s: After I type make, I only get this error: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
[05:19] <iiiears> Welcome _chris
[05:19] <troy_s> nachovalles:  how did you get your installation disk nacho?
[05:19] <spikeb> hi chris__!
[05:19] <Toni-testing> hi
[05:19] <stevej> Hello!
[05:20] <nickrud> ditto :)
[05:20] <nachovalles> from the ubunto page
[05:20] <nachovalles> ?
[05:20] <troy_s> cartur25:  you must be in the dir with the makefile.  this means usually starting with ./configure, then make, then make install
[05:20] <chris__> thanks.  i have finally found a distro that has helped me kick the micro$oft habit
[05:20] <BlackadderNZ> I need some help with my LAN connection, on start-up I'm unable to connect to the LAN I'm on, no ping no nothing
[05:20] <intelikey> jighead yeah.  i've been there.  i couldn't find anything i liked about dapper, so i wiped it and installed hoary.
[05:20] <troy_s> nachovalles:  which one?  www.ubuntu.com?  you type md5sum <TARGET> and compare the values against the known keys to make sure it is the same.
[05:20] <Hexidigital_> chris_:: feels good, dosent it?
[05:20] <BlackadderNZ> if i sudo ifdown eth0 then sudo ifup eth0, it works
[05:20] <chris__> god yes
[05:20] <QPAD|war-away> iiiears, what can the problem be if i cant ping the server ip? but i can access it from home ?
[05:21] <Shaezsche> why isnt ubuntu available in an i686 format? do i lose performance with i386?
[05:21] <_mason> nickrud, i installed realplayer 10 gold.. because i have some stupid .rmvb files, i was going to use helix (see it downloaded an 'installer' that isntalled real player after you downloaded it, but i couldnt find the file at the time) now i have found the correct real player 8 package, it comes up with errors when i try and install it
[05:21] <nickrud> intelikey, you are perverse
[05:21] <jighead> intelikey, so this is a fresh install of hoary? and did you keep your /home data?
[05:21] <stevej> I've gotten almost everything perfect, but I am having trouble with mi DivX ripped DVDs, does anybody know how to get that working?
[05:21] <troy_s> shaezsche:  686 is 386
[05:21] <nachovalles> troy_s yes from www.ubuntu.com, the target is the keyboard or what?
[05:21] <Toni-testing> multiverse perverse
[05:21] <troy_s> shaezsche:  amd64 is the next bump up.
[05:22] <troy_s> nachovalles:  you on a unix box or windows to make the disk?
[05:22] <_mason> nickrud: the error = ./rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs1.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:22] <nachovalles> in windows
[05:22] <troy_s> ubotu, tell stevej about restrictedformats
[05:22] <nickrud> _mason, you do not want that realplayer 8 package.
[05:22] <Shaezsche> what do you mean 386 is 686? then what is 586?
[05:22] <_mason> i dont?
[05:22] <nachovalles> troy_s if you want I can move to slackware
[05:23] <Locke> nou, 686 is 386, 386 isnt 686
[05:23] <troy_s> nachovalles:  doesn't matter.. just wondering what platform you are on.
[05:23] <Locke> 686 is also 586
[05:23] <jighead> intelikey, if you have kept your gnome config files (.gnome* .gconf*), you might want to move them aside and see if the problem persists
[05:23] <_mason> Is there another application that will allow me to play a .rmvb without installing real player?
[05:23] <troy_s> yes 686 is 386... still 32bit
[05:23] <nickrud> nou, it is old, and broken. You want either the realplayer bin as installed from the realplayer site, or the one from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats.
[05:23] <nachovalles> troy_s I on windows XP :(
[05:23] <supertanker> Yo
[05:23] <troy_s> 3,4,5,686 same mess.
[05:23] <intelikey> jighead no it's not a /home problem  either...   jighead don't worry about it this is the first "default" install i've ever tried to use.   i'll remove gnome and install twm and be just 'pickeled tink' about it....
[05:23] <Shaezsche> so 686 just takes advantage of newer procs?
[05:23] <Shaezsche> why isnt ubuntu available in 686?
[05:23] <troy_s> nacho: test your download or re-download it and test it using md5sum
[05:23] <supertanker> Im having trouble installing one of my games
[05:23] <nachovalles> troy_s ok, en then where I have to go to do the md5sum?
[05:23] <supertanker> Can I post the 4 line error msg here?
[05:23] <nachovalles> to the page?
[05:23] <BlackadderNZ> hi, I need some help with my LAN connection, on bootup, eth0 isn't comming up
[05:24] <Madpilot> supertanker, pastebin, please
[05:24] <troy_s> shaezsuche:  same diff.  you can put a specific kernel on to support the minor 686 better bits.
[05:24] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[05:24] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[05:24] <supertanker> where is pastbin?
[05:24] <Oscar_> hey there
[05:24] <intelikey> jighead thanks for the fish just the same.
[05:24] <troy_s> nachovalles:  google md5sum for xp
[05:24] <nachovalles> troy_s a ok maby I understand,
[05:24] <jighead> intelikey, try xfce
[05:24] <nickrud> _mason, erm, the last thing I typed was for you, not nou
[05:24] <troy_s> nachovalles:  you need to make sure your installation media isn't bunked first off.
[05:24] <iiiears> bin file uninstall - This may be of no help. best i could find., - (crosses fingers) http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/35708-uninstall-realplayer-10-a.html
[05:24] <Madpilot> supertanker, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:24] <nachovalles> troy_s in the boot of the instalation I on ly write md5sum?
[05:24] <troy_s> nachovalles:  so test it using the installer's test feature.
[05:24] <benkong2> got dapper ubuntu 6.06 LTs installed and NetworkManager. Will NM break if I install kubuntu-desktop?
[05:25] <troy_s> nachovalles:  boot to your install media and test it.
[05:25] <jighead> intelikey, that is, if you are looking for something between kde/gnome and twm/fluxbox
[05:25] <Oscar_> I dont know how to install programs
[05:25] <supertanker> Okay I posted it
[05:25] <troy_s> nachovalles:  sounds like you might have bad media or bad burn or ...?
[05:25] <_mason> nickrud, yep, got that
[05:25] <_mason> im having a look now
[05:25] <Oscar_> I see lot of files what to do?
[05:25] <supertanker> it is a .run file
[05:25] <Oscar_> want to install mplayer
[05:25] <babo> I have a mod_security.load, but I don't have any mod_security.conf ... ?
[05:25] <BlackadderNZ> hi, I need some help, on bootup of Dapper, eth0 won't load
[05:25] <Oscar_> ok
[05:25] <nachovalles> troy_s maybe
[05:25] <_mason> ( This is all because of a stupid stargate season 8 torrent /kills )
[05:26] <babo> I have apache on debian ... :-( ... it sucks
[05:26] <supertanker> I do "sudo sh linux-radiant-1.4.0.run" and the error message pops up after it unpacks
[05:26] <nickrud> uninstalling realplayer is a pain: I *think* installing the deb on the restricted formats page will correct and document a realplayer install correctly
[05:26] <nachovalles> I tray, I just return
[05:26] <copeland3300> can someoone help me install ubuntu to a hard drive?
[05:26] <_mason> nickrud, Ok, ill give it a shot
[05:26] <supertanker> It worked in Fedora 4 (whic is reallllly slow on my machine), I even copied (without overwriting) all of the libs to ubuntu and rebooted
[05:26] <mo0se> in alsamixer, it says the chip is sigmatel stac9221.
[05:26] <gavagai> My sound works---i can use mp3blaster in the console.  but i just installed ubuntu-desktop, and in gnome there is a red X or whatever one the volume thing, and no sound
[05:26] <lavi> HI, Is there any way to set the gnome-terminel window size in starting.
[05:26] <gavagai> it says "no volume control plugins or devices"
[05:26] <troy_s> mo0se:  so it sees it, can it interact with it?
[05:27] <mo0se> uhm... interact?
[05:27] <troy_s> mo0se:  still using the intel chipset though i bet.
[05:27] <intelikey> jighead i've used xfce4 fvwm icewm blackbox and more, thanks tho
[05:27] <mo0se> it says the card is hda intel.
[05:27] <Geoffrey2> so I take it there's no real advantage to installing the 686 kernel images?
[05:27] <mo0se> but the chip is sigmatel.
[05:27] <supertanker> any idea?
[05:27] <supertanker> why does it make that error?
[05:27] <Toni-testing> I would llike to ask something but this goes too fast
[05:27] <mo0se> toni: just ask it.
[05:28] <troy_s> mo0se:  geoffrey2:  there are.
[05:28] <supertanker> Why won't the X installer work on Ubuntu but work on Fedora?
[05:28] <supertanker> (Its an installer for a game)
[05:28] <troy_s> geoffrey2:  there are, but it is still in the 386 line
[05:28] <Toni-testing> I can't hear any sounds because the sound goes to the null device
[05:28] <mo0se> okay. on the front column, i see an infinity symbol.
[05:28] <v|nc3> hey how do you bring up the task manager for ubuntu
[05:28] <mo0se> what does that mean?
[05:28] <iiiears> Geoffrey - The answer is "Maybe" It really depends on what hardware you need support for. - most won't see a difference.
[05:28] <cartur25_> troy_s: I ran ./config and this is the output, there were scattered no's: http://www.geocities.com/goldeagleb/disk_drive.html
[05:28] <mo0se> on the other ones i see mm.
[05:28] <troy_s> vnc3:  ps -aux in the cli
[05:28] <v|nc3> ahh
[05:28] <Farnaby> I suppose you guys are busy with 6.06, forgot about that
[05:29] <Drasla> does anyone know what "fi" means in a bash file?
[05:29] <gavagai> supertanker, everytime i have installed linux there has been inconsincies like that
[05:29] <troy_s> vnc3:  or the session manager in system i think if you want gui
[05:29] <nickrud> supertanker, is it an rpm, or otherwise tied to redhat's filesystem?
[05:29] <gavagai> s/has/have
[05:29] <mo0se> does the infinite symbol mean that it's muted or something?
[05:29] <troy_s> drasala:  it is the ending brace for an if
[05:29] <supertanker> I need to know why it won't work on Ubuntu
[05:29] <troy_s> drasala:  if [...]  fi
[05:29] <intelikey> xtop v|nc3
[05:29] <Drasla> thanks.
[05:29] <troy_s> mo0se:  not certain there.
[05:29] <Farnaby> moose, in 6.06 the standard no sign means mute
[05:29] <bigfoot1> how can i do a direct ftp to a ftp server?
[05:29] <mo0se> what's the standard no sign?
[05:29] <supertanker> No, its a .run file
[05:29] <v|nc3> and i put that in the terminal
[05:29] <v|nc3> right
[05:29] <supertanker> Here is error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15365
[05:29] <intelikey> yea
[05:29] <Cerveza> how do I reconfigure x?
[05:30] <v|nc3> k
[05:30] <nickrud> supertanker, you could put up the errors on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and maybe someone will have an insight
[05:30] <troy_s> !dpkg-reconfigure
[05:30] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, troy_s
[05:30] <bootlick> In Nessus, i cannot log in, says could not open a connection to local host? how can it not
[05:30] <freakabcd> hi all
[05:30] <Hexidigital_> hi freakabcd
[05:30] <nickrud> !info dpkg-reconfigure
[05:30] <freakabcd> is there a problem with archive.ubuntu.com?
[05:30] <danial> Hello, I am having a problem with Ubuntu having a very large delay when attempting to access DNS servers
[05:30] <troy_s> !xorg-server
[05:30] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, troy_s
[05:30] <freakabcd> keeps cutting off my downloads every single time!
[05:30] <supertanker> I DID put it up on pastebin. Read it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15365
[05:30] <Cerveza> its like dpkg -reconfigure, but what is the command for x
[05:30] <Farnaby> my problem is that I am having trouble changing the screen size of all things so I can install off the live cd. Its got me stuck at 640x480, and no net access on that particular computer
[05:30] <Cerveza> is it xorg.conf?
[05:30] <jighead> Cerveza, xserver-xorg
[05:31] <troy_s> supertanker:  no clue.  is it for a game?
[05:31] <troy_s> dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server iirc
[05:31] <troy_s> or just futz with your xorg.conf cerveza
[05:31] <nickrud> supertanker, missed your post. it goes fast here
[05:31] <supertanker> It works with Fedora 4. It is an editor called GTKRadiant for a game.
[05:31] <kieran_> This is really messed up, during install (ppc, im using a g4 emac) I got an error, something about not finding a bootstrap partition, then the install finished, it just booted into os x
[05:31] <troy_s> cerveza:  usually futzing with xorg.conf is a little better as you can control it.
[05:31] <supertanker> Why in the heck does it work with FC and not ubuntu?
[05:31] <kieran_> i dont think it installed a bootloader.
[05:31] <supertanker> Yes I nkow
[05:31] <supertanker> know
[05:31] <troy_s> supertanker:  any number of reasons.
[05:31] <intelikey> !xorg
[05:31] <ubotu> methinks xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[05:32] <troy_s> supertanker:  the bottom line, if you get it working on one linux, you should be able to get it working on another.
[05:32] <Toni-testing> !info dpkg-reconfigure
[05:32] <supertanker> any idea how to fix it? I tried sudo xhost +
[05:32] <gavagai> do i need to place users in a special group for them to have sound?
[05:32] <supertanker> And I don't have any idea why it won't run on this
[05:32] <bigfoot1> do i use ftp or lftp to do a direct ftp upload?
[05:32] <gavagai> one user has sound in gnome and another doesn't.  it works for the admin user.
[05:32] <supertanker> it works on Fedora but not Ubuntu
[05:32] <troy_s> supertanker:  no clue, and i am not going to sweat it for a game.
[05:32] <nickrud> supertanker, those are about as useless error messages as a software author could provide
[05:32] <JohnsonE> ok, i reported my bug.
[05:32] <_mason> nickrud, Dont worry i will leave it installed, i cant see me fretting about 10mb .. i downloaded the win32 codec pack, That work! and i will use that from now on, That you very much
[05:32] <babo> how do I turn off iptables in ubuntu ?
[05:32] <troy_s> supertanker:  there are just too many other folks to help with more important things.
[05:32] <supertanker> I even tried copying all of the lib dir from Fedora to Ubuntu (Not overwriting of course)....
[05:33] <troy_s> babo:  iptables isn't really on or off.
[05:33] <troy_s> babo:  you just adjust its rule set.
[05:33] <supertanker> I can't use it with Fedora because it is increadibly sloooooooooooow....
[05:33] <babo> troy_s: you can turn it off on RH ...
[05:33] <danial> Does anyone know why, after a recent update, any attempt to access a DNS server seems to take up to 12 seconds?
[05:33] <babo> service iptables stop ...
[05:33] <troy_s> babo:  what is your issue currently:
[05:33] <intelikey> you just drop all rules
[05:33] <babo> troy_s: I want to suspend my firewall ...
[05:33] <troy_s> danial:  what server:?  on your router?
[05:33] <nickrud> _mason, np. The realplayer install you did from real is usable. If you have problems with smil, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:33] <freakabcd> danial, check /etc/resolv.conf to make sure you're getting to the right dns servers
[05:34] <supertanker> Do you think using Xfce instead of KDE is the prob?
[05:34] <freakabcd> also check your default route
[05:34] <JohnsonE> ok, thank you all. i'm going to log back into my install and try to fix this internet problem again...
[05:34] <danial> Well, loading up the network settings menu does show the correct DNS
[05:34] <kieran_> Any ideas anyone?
[05:34] <troy_s> johnsone:  good luck
[05:34] <Geoffrey2> has anyone in here used Thunderbird under Ubuntu?
[05:34] <danial> Perhaps it is because my router is listed in the DNS?
[05:34] <cam> is there a way to speed up the gets of apt-get ? like download 3 pkg at a time ?
[05:34] <freakabcd> danial, uh.. check the resolv.conf file
[05:34] <danial> Geoffrey, I used it on XP
[05:34] <troy_s> danial:  if you are on your router, it could be that your router is flakey and not following standards etc.
[05:34] <iiiears> babo - It is integral to networking. you can't. It is flexible enough to be edited to do magic. It's a ruleset for allowed connections.
[05:34] <troy_s> danial:  not all routers are created equally.
[05:34] <Geoffrey2> I'm transferring over from XP
[05:35] <troy_s> babo:  you can add firestarter which lets you use a gui to access iptables quickly.
[05:35] <freakabcd> man, this is crazy
[05:35] <intelikey> cam i thought apt did that by default
[05:35] <jighead> babo, do you have a startup script in /etc/init.d for your iptables/firewall?
[05:35] <freakabcd> anyone else having troubles getting to update repo and downlkoad packages?
[05:35] <babo> troy_s: why would I need firestarter ?
[05:35] <danial> troy_s:True, but I have never had a problem in the past, I did recently replace my router with replacement of the same model
[05:35] <troy_s> freak:  which one?
[05:35] <freakabcd> its almost the 6th time that i have tried to get blender installed
[05:35] <babo> jighead: obviously not ... :-(
[05:35] <kieran_> *confused* Why didnt the installer install a bootloader?
[05:35] <freakabcd> and it keeps dropping me after a few kb
[05:36] <chris__> what plug in do i need to play a .swf file?
[05:36] <intelikey> babo running a server ?
[05:36] <troy_s> babo:  because it is a point and click way of accessing iptables if you aren't comfortable with the cli for iptables.
[05:36] <babo> jighead: maybe I should make one ...
[05:36] <troy_s> danial:  what make?
[05:36] <kieran_> Chris__:flash
[05:36] <jighead> babo, yes you should, for now you can use iptables -F to flush all of the rules and essentially have no fw
[05:36] <babo> troy_s: I am comfortable with the cli, it's just that have a default script is easier ...
[05:36] <chris__> k can i get totem xine to play it?
[05:36] <cam> intelikey, hmmm really? right now, it's downloading one pkg at a time ... when the first one is finished, then it downloads the 2nd ...
[05:36] <troy_s> babo:  well there isn't an init.d script for iptables in ubuntu :)
[05:36] <danial> "search Belkin, nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>, nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>, nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:37] <Hexidigital_> can anyone offer information on what php package i'd need to install for web development? i apt-cache search php, but list is WAY long
[05:37] <danial> where commas are returns
[05:37] <babo> intelikey: nah, just a desktop machine. Which is why I don't want to go to the trouble of writing a script ...
[05:37] <babo> ... lazy
[05:37] <danial> that seems right
[05:37] <kieran_> chris__: im not sure, its normally played in the browser, just install the flash plugin with automatix
[05:37] <danial> It is a belkin
[05:37] <jighead> babo, don't write one, there are tons online that you can just dl and use
[05:37] <troy_s> danial:  not certain, but that is PROBABLY the source of your lag.
[05:37] <babo> ok, thanks ...
[05:37] <troy_s> danial:  there could be a belkin issue with dhcp etc.
[05:37] <intelikey> babo just a desktop, no services. no need for a firewall
[05:37] <danial> troy_s: No other computers on my network have a problem
[05:38] <troy_s> danial:  are they xp?
[05:38] <chris__> k thanks i am new to this i will ask for a lot of patience
[05:38] <danial> troy_s: Yes
[05:38] <babo> intelikey: I'm paranoid ... :-)
[05:38] <Geoffrey2> I'm trying to copy the mboxes over from the Windows version of Thunderbird to the Ubuntu version, but I can't remember which mbox goes with which email account...I was wondering if there was any file in the profile that would tell me that....I realize it's not exactly an Ubuntu question, but the folks on Mozilla.org are largely lurking and saying nothing
[05:38] <troy_s> danial:  a lot of vendors so specifically target xp and apple that they fail to look at the _real_ specifications.
[05:38] <freakabcd> i'm going to try rebooting the router .. grr
[05:38] <intelikey> babo quicktables is good
[05:38] <troy_s> freak:  good bet.
[05:38] <danial> troy_s: I had the same model before, just a bad firmware update that ruined it, got an RMA for same model
[05:39] <troy_s> danial:  i would start with a firmware upgrade on that belkin router.
[05:39] <babo> I think that this line pretty much does the trick as a desktop firewall ... -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j DROP
[05:39] <danial> troy_s: I am afraid to do that, that is what killed it the first time
[05:39] <troy_s> danial:  or better yet, get a linksys wrt54G-l
[05:39] <Farnaby> i have to say, that other then my current resolution issue (which I have a temp workaround for the install) this might be the easiest drunk stall tha tI have ever done
[05:39] <babo> ... maybe a few more just to even things out ...
[05:39] <kieran_> So does anyone have any idea why the PPC install didnt install a bootloader?
[05:39] <troy_s> danial:  firmware shouldn't brick a router.  that is flakey vendor.
[05:39] <hyphenated> Geoffrey2: you can open the Account Settings window and look at the "Server Settings" page for each account. it has a Local Directory thing there
[05:40] <troy_s> danial:  i would firmware upgrade it via the appropriate technique.  just follow the instructions to a t
[05:40] <danial> troy_s: My linksys was replaced by the belkin for constant problems, probably just one faulty part, but really turned me off
[05:40] <Geoffrey2> hyphenated, which means I'll need to reboot into Windows...ah well, was hoping I could avoid doing that
[05:40] <troy_s> danial:  the wrt54gL is an open source based router.  very good and you can put your own firmwares on it that are basically stripped down linuxes
[05:40] <st3v3dnd> Can anyone tell me why even though I have a user in a group, and that group has ownership of a dir, and appears to have r/w perms, that I can't write in the dir?
[05:40] <danial> troy_s: I did, but I am still not totally sure the problm is the router
[05:40] <troy_s> danial:  but only the L
[05:40] <troy_s> danial:  i am darn certain at this point.
[05:41] <nerdzyboy> Is there a way to show fulscreen video in gxine?
[05:41] <troy_s> danial:  if you are dhcp via your router, and a linux box is having issues -- its the router not playing by the rules.
[05:41] <danial> troy_s I have heard of thos, but not going to go out and buy a new router unless I HAVE to
[05:41] <troy_s> danial:  try the firmware... that's the best i can suggest.
[05:41] <troy_s> danial:  and if you brick it, send hatemail to belkin
[05:41] <danial> troy_s: I can try, but I don't want to have to rma another
[05:41] <hyphenated> Geoffrey2: well, the alternative is to try and interpret the "prefs.js" file yourself ;-)
[05:41] <intelikey> cam  just did an apt-get   " [2 libenchant1 17376/49.4kB 35%]  [1 abiword-common 23168/1612kB 1%] "   my defaults do indeed dl more than one at a time.
[05:42] <troy_s> danial:  i would be leery too, but i can't see any other way danial.  testing a router with xp or apple isn't really 'testing'
[05:42] <pacino> hi guys - i'm trying to get a Microtouch USB Touchscreen up and running with Dapper - I have it acknowledging "clicks" on the screen but it seems to need to be synchronized...does anyone have any pointers on where I can look?
[05:42] <Oscar_> who wants to help me
[05:42] <troy_s> oscar:  kind of vague don't you think?
[05:42] <intelikey> cam hoary to dapper they may have messed that up too...
[05:42] <Oscar_> learn install
[05:42] <Farnaby> out of curiosity, installing ubuntu on a tower, it asked me what my preferred username etc is, is there a standard root/password account that I can change the pass to?
[05:42] <Oscar_> mplayer
[05:42] <danial> troy_s: Heh, I have a live copy of ubuntu, my other machines are running the linksys wifi cards that linux hates
[05:43] <Oscar_> i donwloaded
[05:43] <troy_s> ubotu, tell farnaby about root
[05:43] <Oscar_> but i see lot of files the what to do...
[05:43] <troy_s> danial:  not ALL linksys stuff is good... just that wrt54gL unit
[05:43] <intelikey> !mplayer
[05:43] <ubotu> hmm... mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[05:43] <babo> Does anyone know what the apache install does with mod_security.conf ... ?
[05:43] <nerdzyboy> anyone^
[05:43] <gavagai> i did apt-cache search for games and there a so many! are there a few that are really good?  i don't want to install and check them all... :)
[05:43] <troy_s> danial:  personally i don't really like linksys, but that -L router is absolutely amazing... i have purchased at least 10
[05:43] <danial> Well, I am going to try a firmware upgrade, this will probably disconnect me
[05:43] <charlesJacobs> Oscar_: delete those, open a terminal and type in sudo aptitude install mplayer OR open Synaptic and install mplayer
[05:44] <troy_s> danal:  good luck... follow those instructions exactly and make sure you ahve the right firmware!
[05:44] <Farnaby> thanks troy
[05:44] <Oscar_> thanks
[05:44] <danial> troy_s: I have heard it can be upgraded with non-standard firmware to do some great things
[05:44] <kieran_> Could anyone possibly answer my question?
[05:44] <troy_s> Farnaby:  np
[05:44] <troy_s> danial:  it rocks.
[05:44] <troy_s> danial:  www.openwrt.org
[05:45] <inrelief> hey guys, anybody on setting the cpufreq on my notebook to full speed when its plugged in, but dynamic when its battery?
[05:45] <Farnaby> here is another question, will there be more screen resolutions available upon the full install? Like I said, thats my only prob, and no xorg/conf didn't work on the live cd
[05:45] <troy_s> danial:  i can't say enough good things about it.  it is basically a 40 dollar computer running linux.
[05:45] <inrelief> 'cause running at 75% when i'm plugged seems silly
[05:45] <troy_s> farnaby:  xorg.conf will fix it... kind of depends on detection
[05:45] <cam> intelikey, what kind of settings do you have in /etc/apt/ ?
[05:45] <troy_s> danial:  and being linux, it follows standards and protocols.
[05:45] <danial> troy_s: $40 for an 11g router?
[05:45] <intelikey> gavagai if you did want to install and try them all     apt-get install `apt-cache search game | cut -d' ' -f1`      should make it easy  :)
[05:45] <Farnaby> hrm, seems like Imight be downloading some rpms at work tomorrow, wonder if my boss will be there
[05:45] <danial> troy_s: That aint a bad price anyways
[05:46] <troy_s> danial:  they go on sale for about 50 CDN on a regular basis at www.ncix.com
[05:46] <intelikey> cam i haven't touched them from the install.....
[05:46] <FR500> hello
[05:46] <troy_s> danial:  make sure you look for the WRT54G-L -- NOT!!!!! the wrt54g
[05:46] <charlesJacobs> FR500: hi
[05:46] <FR500> I think i discovered a bug, how do i report?
[05:46] <troy_s> !bug
[05:46] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[05:46] <Farnaby> now I just have to remember wtf my graphics card is on this machine
[05:46] <pacino> does anyone know what device a USB touchscreen would be mapped to in /dev/?
[05:46] <troy_s> farnaby:  lspci.  or flip the driver to vesa and start there.
[05:47] <FR500> ty
[05:47] <troy_s> pacino:  try the wiki?
[05:47] <Farnaby> troy, you are much better sober then I am drunk ;)
[05:47] <FR500> can anyone try to reproduce it for me?
[05:47] <troy_s> fr500:  do your due diligence and make sure it isn't already reported!
[05:47] <danial> troy_s: Just to test, I took the belkin IP out of my DNS list, didn't solve the problem(Which it keeps a cache DNS which it probably isn't accessing, causing the problem)
[05:47] <Locke> heh
[05:47] <pacino> troy_s: thanks mate!
[05:47] <tripppy> ubotu, firefox 1.5
[05:47] <ubotu> somebody said firefox 1.5 was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:47] <danial> troy_s: I really didn't want that upgrade, but ohwell
[05:47] <troy_s> danial:  if you are on a router,
[05:48] <troy_s> danial:  and using dhcp, its the router's fault.  try a static ip
[05:48] <troy_s> danial: and you won't have those dhcp waiting issues any more :)
[05:48] <danial> locke: Locke? Enders Game reference
[05:48] <danial> troy_s: Tried a static, still the same issue
[05:48] <troy_s> danial:  then it isn't dhcp possibly?
[05:48] <troy_s> danial:  something else?
[05:48] <intelikey> cam all my stuff in /etc/apt   have a look for your self
[05:48] <Panda-> how do you rename a file in ubuntu? :|
[05:48] <cam> intelikey, tx
[05:49] <troy_s> panda-:  mv
[05:49] <danial> troy_s: No, it is DHCP. But I put it to static, and DNS problems percested
[05:49] <Locke> danial, shrewd :)
[05:49] <Locke> i am not a governmentalist by any means
[05:49] <Locke> peter hehe
[05:49] <troy_s> danial:  set your dns server / default gateway to the router's ip.
[05:49] <st3v3dnd> I think either ubuntu is broken, or I'm missing something incredibly simple
[05:49] <pacino> troy_s: no joy on the wiki for "touchscreen" or "microtouch" - it's weird - it's *nearly* works...the pointer moves, just not in the right directions...
[05:49] <charlesJacobs> Panda-: type "man mv" in a terminal
[05:49] <Farnaby> demonsthes says go to #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[05:49] <danial> troy_s:It was
[05:49] <troy_s> pacino:  text search?
[05:49] <Locke> rather peter wiggin than valentine
[05:50] <Farnaby> 53% of full install
[05:50] <Locke> Farnaby, already there heh
[05:50] <troy_s> danial:  man... i'm lost then.  i really think it is that router, but i might very well be wrong.
[05:50] <Panda-> ooh
[05:50] <Panda-> thanks Troglodyt
[05:50] <Panda-> oops troy_s
[05:50] <charlesJacobs> Panda-: or right click on the item, select "Properties" and edit the "Name" field
[05:50] <troy_s> troglodyte -- eek.
[05:50] <pacino> troy_s: doh - I'm an idiot!  thanks!
[05:50] <danial> troy_s: I got an update and replaced my router at the same time, which this problem started after
[05:50] <charlesJacobs> Panda-: or press F2 when the item is selected
[05:50] <Panda-> charlesJacobs; can't in bash
[05:50] <troy_s> danial:  count on the latter
[05:51] <troy_s> danial:  linux isn't used on webservers for nothing.
[05:51] <danial> troy_s: At first, I thought it was because I was using this machine in XP as a router while I RMA'd my router
[05:51] <charlesJacobs> Panda-: true enough. just giving some GUI alternatives
[05:51] <intelikey> cave dweller in here ?
[05:51] <babo> Can sudo ask you for a plaintext password on a newline ... ? ... I thought the password was supposed to be suppressed on the screen ?
[05:51] <troy_s> danial:  if i bet money on things behaving, i bet on open source.  not proprietary closed source things.  just where i bet, that's all.
[05:51] <troy_s> babo:  it shoudl be supressed.
[05:51] <mo0se> cuuuuuuuurses... i got no idea how to get my sizzound to work.
[05:52] <troy_s> babo:  unless someone has written a bad skript.
[05:52] <babo> troy_s: hmm ...
[05:52] <troy_s> mo0se:  hang in there.
[05:52] <danial> troy_S: Why do you think I have put up all this effort to get linux running completely on my machine, dispite coming with XP
[05:52] <Farnaby> 60%
[05:52] <mo0se> heh. i hope they get it to work in the next version.
[05:52] <babo> troy_s: it's just a default install ... I'm still setting things up ...
[05:52] <cam> intelikey, well it's pretty weird, since the conf files are the same
[05:52] <troy_s> danial:  keep trying.  i would say its the router.  can't test unless you try :)
[05:52] <Farnaby> looking forward to this
[05:52] <Farnaby> smoke reak time I guess
[05:52] <troy_s> babo:  if it echoes to the screen, it isn't responding correctly.
[05:52] <chris__> with the right hardware linux can be a blessing
[05:52] <Panda-> im so lost in all this linux/ubuntu stuff... what should I read to get a good start?
[05:52] <troy_s> babo:  most of the time it shoudl be masked in some form.  shouldnt just show up.
[05:53] <danial> troy_s: When I did the math, I came out with a potential netgain of $10 getting this thing setup on linux over buying windows
[05:53] <intelikey> cam i've told you all i know about it.
[05:53] <troy_s> panda-:  start at the absolute beginner talk on teh forums.
[05:53] <charlesJacobs> Panda-: you could try wikipedia
[05:53] <troy_s> panda-:  if you really want to learn about operating systems, "how linux works" from no starch press is _very_ good.
[05:53] <tripppy> ubotu, upgrade firefox 1.5
[05:53] <ubotu> tripppy: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:53] <kieran_> Ok please someone, Towards the end of the install i got an error about not finding a bootstrap or something, then when finished it hadnt installed a bootloader
[05:53] <troy_s> panda-:  but there are 10000000 howtos out there... just start pouring over google.
[05:53] <kieran_> It just booted into OS X when i restarted
[05:53] <intelikey> !tell Panda- about cli
[05:53] <kieran_> (Trying to dual boot with os x, PPC)
[05:53] <troy_s> kieran:  have you checked the forums and the wiki?
[05:54] <kieran_> Its all installed correctly etc.
[05:54] <kieran_> I searched the forums yes,
[05:54] <troy_s> kieran:  open firmware is stinky as hell last time i toyed with it.
[05:54] <charlesJacobs> kieran_: if you know what you're doing you could try the super GRUB disk
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> tripppy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:54] <troy_s> kieran:  try the wiki too.
[05:54] <st3v3dnd> Can someone tell me what the different syntax highlighting in Dapper's xterm window is for ls -al? particularly dirs with red fg, black bg, and dirs with blue fg, green bg?
[05:54] <tripppy> cheers
[05:54] <tripppy> got it
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> Panda-, Are you lost in anything in particular?
[05:54] <troy_s> st3v3:  red black is hard link
[05:54] <troy_s> st3v3:  most of those are ln byproducts.
[05:54] <rredd4> wehn i install, can I install the 686 kernel and not the 386 kernel?
[05:55] <intelikey> use google.com/linux   for your linux searches
[05:55] <troy_s> rredd4:  once you are running yes.
[05:55] <cartur25_> troy_s: I ran ./config and this is the output, there were scattered no's: http://www.geocities.com/goldeagleb/disk_drive.html
[05:55] <kieran_> Didnt know SuperGRUB supported PPC.
[05:55] <troy_s> rredd4:  there just aint that much diff between 32bit 386 and 686 in terms of architecture... so don't sweat it too much.  get an amd64
[05:55] <troy_s> cartur25:  did it finish?
[05:56] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> Is there any way to take off recent documents in the places menu?
[05:56] <troy_s> cartur25:  nope.  you need your x dev files.
[05:56] <cartur25_> the config comand? yes it's all there
[05:56] <troy_s> cartur25:  so add them.
[05:56] <rredd4> troy_s but not as I am installing ubuntu?  I have a p3 laptop, need 686 kernel with ndiswrapper
[05:56] <inrelief> anybody know how to adjust cpu frequency scaling options for plugged-in vs batteries?
[05:56] <Hexidigital_> can anyone offer some advice on how to change ownership of /dev/hda4? i tried chown, but no avail
[05:56] <bobo> good thing ubuntu made a backup copy of xorg.conf
[05:56] <kieran_> troy_s: Maybe so, but open firmware being crap doesnt really explain it :-)
[05:56] <stevekl> I'm probably not allowed to talk about warez in here huh
[05:56] <bobo> messes up everything :\
[05:56] <troy_s> kieran:  no but it does mean that you will need to twiddle some extra steps :)
[05:57] <cartur25_> sorry troy I'm a newb, what is the command to install x dev files?
[05:57] <troy_s> stevekl:  no.  use open source.
[05:57] <kieran_> troy_s: Does that envolve dropkicking the mac? :-)
[05:57] <charlesJacobs> rredd4: p3 will run on a 386 kernel and ndiswrapper is included in the install
[05:57] <stevekl> troy_s: Ah ches
[05:57] <sleeper> is there anyway to change the resolution of the welcome screen? Its set too high
[05:57] <intelikey> Hexidigital_ why do you want to change the device node ?
[05:57] <troy_s> kieran:  NOW you are thinking!  while you are at it, dropkick steve jobs in the beets.
[05:57] <charlesJacobs> rredd4: so when you're finished installing you can immediately upgrade to a 686 kernel via apt
[05:58] <Hexidigital_> intelikey:: to enable read/write access from my current user
[05:58] <rredd4> charlesJacob yeah, ok
[05:58] <babo> troy_s: turns out that it's an emacs thing ...
[05:58] <kieran_> Twas slightly annoying, first i had issues with X, which was easily fixed by editing the config, which was easy enough to solve, when i could get a shell that is
[05:58] <troy_s> babo:  ahh.  interesting.
[05:58] <bobo> instead of installing kubuntu, can you just install KDE along w/ Gnome in ubuntu?
[05:58] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> Is there any way to take off recent documents?
[05:58] <moonman> how do i work a .run file?
[05:58] <iiiears> sleeper - "system" .. "preferences" .. "Screen Resolution"
[05:58] <charlesJacobs> bobo: yep.
[05:58] <kieran_> Now no bootloader, sigh
[05:58] <troy_s> kieran:  strange wierd that good old osx took over... perhaps it spotted the problem?
[05:58] <JohnsonE> back again! still no internet, but a new question
[05:58] <sleeper> iiiears: but that is only for when i login, I was hoping to change the resolution for the welcome screen ( before i login)
[05:58] <troy_s> kieran:  erm... "problem" "Hey -- IS THAT ANOTHER OPERATING SYSTEM.  HOW UN MAC OF YOU"
[05:58] <intelikey> Hexidigital_ ok.  now why would you be trying to write dirrectly to a device node ?   are you trying to format that partition ?
[05:59] <srxnr> Okay i got everything working
[05:59] <srxnr> :)
[05:59] <srxnr> Just one problem.
[05:59] <troy_s> kieran:  all i could suggest is reinstalling that bootloader via the disk possibly?
[05:59] <kieran_> Or maybe ubuntu didnt overwrite the MBR?
[05:59] <troy_s> kieran:  possibly.
[05:59] <Hexidigital_> intelikey:: sorry... wasn't paying attention to what i typed... i meant /mount/hda4
[05:59] <srxnr> Who can help me?
[05:59] <Hexidigital_> correction, /media/hda4
[05:59] <troy_s> kieran:  but the transitional factor is that blasted openfirmware
[05:59] <JohnsonE> my NEW AND IMPROVED question: How can I give myself write access to my media hard drive?
[05:59] <charlesJacobs> srxnr: it depends on what the problem is
[05:59] <Farnaby> something other then osx? Thats illegal ;)
[05:59] <Drasla> is there a command to add a user to a group?
[05:59] <troy_s> kieran:  when doing manual installs of oses on it, i had to manually change the blasted boot pointer in firmware.
[05:59] <troy_s> drasla
[06:00] <cartur25_> troy_s: sorry for being a noob - what is the command to install x dev files?
[06:00] <JohnsonE> my NEW AND IMPROVED question: How can I give myself write access to my media hard drive?
[06:00] <troy_s> drasla:  yes ;)
[06:00] <moonman> i need a hand with a .run file.
[06:00] <srxnr> I think it's simple, How do i alow my "/media/SRXNR" drive writeable. I can't seem to write on it.
[06:00] <troy_s> cartur25:  sorry... um... let me quickly look... there are MANY of them.
[06:00] <iiiears> sleeper - Hm. - I thought that made it the default fo even the log-in. - I don't have the answer.
[06:00] <intelikey> Hexidigital_ ok and the fs is what there ?  ntfs ext3 rieserfs.... ?
[06:00] <JohnsonE> me and srx got the same problem :O
[06:00] <kieran_> troy_s: nice.
[06:00] <Drasla> troy_s: didn't know if it was just a config file thing.  mind revealing it?
[06:00] <Hexidigital_> intelikey:: it's a fat32 part for my music files
[06:00] <troy_s> kieran:  start with simple.  try the disky again
[06:00] <kieran_> I remember i got the EXACT same problem with 5.10, but didnt wanna mess around at the time 'cause i had too much unbacked up work
[06:00] <troy_s> yah...
[06:00] <Farnaby> kieren, my friend (who is probably much closer to sober then I am fyi) has told me that osx doesn't play that well with others, evne windows with bootcamp
[06:00] <charlesJacobs> srxnr: if you sudo nano -w /etc/fstab and add "rw" to the drive's mount options that should work. from there just umount and mount it
[06:01] <troy_s> kieran:  i would try that damn wiki or forums again... there are tons of howtos.
[06:01] <cartur25_> troy_s: hahaha - well how am I suppsed to know which ones to get?? I'm the noob!
[06:01] <srxnr> i have a usb 200gb hadrive
[06:01] <kieran_> troy_s: im on it now
[06:01] <troy_s> cartur25:  hold tight... looking.
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> Hexidigital_, You need a umask=000 in the options in fstab
[06:01] <charlesJacobs> srxnr: then change the drive's options to "defaults"
[06:01] <troy_s> cartur25:  sudo apt-get install xorg-dev
[06:01] <JohnsonE> charles, could you explain that again please? i also need to make my drive wriateable
[06:01] <Hexidigital_> tonyyarusso:: under options?
[06:01] <Farnaby> my friend is also a mac genious fwitw
[06:01] <cartur25_> thanks bud!
[06:01] <srxnr> charlesJacobs: How?
[06:01] <danial_> Well, might have found what bricked my last one
[06:01] <Hexidigital_> tonyyarusso:: sorry.. having a bad day.. you already said that :)
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> Hexidigital_, Yeah.  I can get you a sample line in a moment.
[06:01] <troy_s> drasala hold.
[06:02] <echostorm> hey guys. Can anyone direct me to info on compiling a python source? (LH-ABC) I can get it to run, but i would like to compile it and know how to do this for future.
[06:02] <Hexidigital_> tonyyarusso:: no, i got it
[06:02] <bobo> how do you connect to another irc server with x-chat? (like /server -m in mirc)
[06:02] <Hexidigital_> tonyyarusso:: thanks much
[06:02] <troy_s> drasla: you wantted to add a user to a group?
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> yw
[06:02] <beavis> isnt mac just linux without mac?
[06:02] <intelikey> Hexidigital_ partdon my lag time.   ok.  you need to set the permissions in the fstab file  or on the command line when you mount it.    a simple  umask=0  if you don't mind it being permiscuse
[06:02] <Fujitsu> beavis: !?
[06:02] <troy_s> beavis:  absllutely not
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> beasty, Mac OS X is based on BSD and the Mach kernel, not Linux.
[06:02] <kieran_> echostorm: compile python? its interpreted
[06:02] <Farnaby> bobo, what version?
[06:02] <Hexidigital_> intelikey:: no prob, i was lagging badly earlier... thanks for your help
[06:02] <charlesJacobs> srxnr, JohnsonE: open a terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" then under the column "options" change the drive's options to "defaults" (you have to type it in)
[06:02] <Drasla> troy_s: yeah.  I know there's that admin program, but I'm looking for the command.
[06:02] <danial_> troy_s: The download for the firmware downloads a .bin, but the update tutorial clearly states "All firmware files end with a .dlf"
[06:02] <beavis> im just f
[06:03] <beavis> im just f#$#$ around
[06:03] <Farnaby> w00t, setting up the clock
[06:03] <cartur25_> troy_s: how did you conclude I need xorg-dev?
[06:03] <intelikey> Hexidigital_ "man mount" explains it all
[06:03] <JohnsonE> thanks charles
[06:03] <charlesJacobs> JohnsonE: any time
[06:03] <echostorm> kieran_ What i mean is I have a program called lh-abc thats written in python, however its just the source, I know i have to put it all together somehow, but im having a hard time finnding usefull info on this.
[06:03] <beavis> i would be happy if i could get a raid running in ubuntu , mandrive has such a good installer but crappy system
[06:03] <srxnr> Damn i don't know how to use
[06:04] <srxnr> " sudo nano -w /etc/fstab "
[06:04] <charlesJacobs> srxnr: for a GUI option type in "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" instead
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> Aw man - It took my like three tries typing that nick and I still got it wrong.
[06:04] <kieran_> echostorm: Distutils
[06:04] <Farnaby> bobo, xchat is mostly graphical, even in *nix, there should be an add server button
[06:04] <charlesJacobs> srxnr, JohnsonE: oh, and I forgot. when you've done that save it and go back in to the terminal and type "umount /path/to/drive" and then "mount /path/to/drive"
[06:04] <srxnr> okay i got it
[06:04] <intelikey> why -w ?
[06:05] <kieran_> http://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/distutils-sig/
[06:05] <srxnr> It is under defaults
[06:05] <Farnaby> configging hardware, 95%
[06:05] <nf4> am I supossed to have some sort of java policy
[06:05] <echostorm> kieran_ ahh yes this is what im looking for thanx a ton !
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> bobo, XChat > Server List
[06:05] <kieran_> echostorm: no worries.
[06:05] <pacino> hi guys - how can I tell what /dev/ device a USB device is mapped to?
[06:05] <nf4> both sun and blackdown say no policy
[06:05] <Fujitsu> pacino, what kind of device?
[06:06] <Farnaby> 97%
[06:06] <pacino> Fujitsu: a microtouch USB TouchScreen
[06:07] <kieran_> This is really making me feel like going back to me feeble old duron :-)
[06:07] <lonegeek> how can i permanetly connect to my windows network?
[06:07] <bobo> I meant connecting to multiple servers, each time i want to connect to a second server, it disconnects from the server im connected to
[06:07] <srxnr> charlesJacobs: It's already under defaults.
[06:07] <arun> ubotu: VLC installation
[06:07] <ubotu> arun: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:07] <arun> ubotu: VLC media player
[06:07] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arun
[06:07] <Hexidigital_> tonyyarusso or intelikey should i have to reboot for the changes to take effect? after adding umask=000, i am still unable to write
[06:07] <Farnaby> kieran, half the time I consider going back to slack or the old RH oses but there are major downsides for this sucker
[06:07] <QPAD|war-away> ubotu: VLC
[06:07] <ubotu> I heard vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[06:07] <nf4> vlc is in the synaptic
[06:07] <charlesJacobs> srxnr: is it already formatted? if so, what type of filesystem does it have?
[06:07] <QPAD|war-away> :p
[06:07] <intelikey> when is /etc/manpath.config   read ?
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> Hexidigital_, Reboot no.  Remount, yes.
[06:08] <arun> ubotu: playing wmv files in ubuntu
[06:08] <Hexidigital_> tonyyarusso:: tyvm
[06:08] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arun
[06:08] <schmity> do i need a new partition to install ubuntu on?
[06:08] <arun> nf4: but i cant get wmv fiels to work
[06:08] <jisatsu> does dapper not come with ntfs kernel modules? It's not letting me mount an ntfs partition
[06:08] <intelikey> i've edited it but the change doesn't seem to take place ???
[06:08] <Farnaby> schnitty no, prodied you are willing to overwrite what is there
[06:08] <nf4> are you on amd64?
[06:08] <talljon84> Can anyone tell me what package gives the xmodmap.us file? The xmodmap doesn't seem to install it.
[06:08] <arun> nf4, does it need any missing plugins.. no x86
[06:08] <Farnaby> schmity rather
[06:08] <RedEyess> Hi
[06:09] <nf4> you need th windows codecs
[06:09] <RedEyess> I have upgraded to 6.10
[06:09] <schmity> Farnaby: like i installed OS X on this mac
[06:09] <RedEyess> 6.06
[06:09] <RedEyess> oops
[06:09] <arun> nf4: hm.. is it also there in synaptic
[06:09] <Farnaby> 99%
[06:09] <schmity> and i wanna use ubuntu also sometimes
[06:09] <Farnaby> done!
[06:09] <nf4> no let me try and find it
[06:09] <st3v3dnd> Why can't I write inside of a directory that is owned by a group that I'm a member of, and that group has write perms?
[06:09] <schmity> so do i needa reformat it?
[06:09] <Motoko-chan> Hm. Network manager isn't allowing me to switch to the wireless connection. It only shows the wired.
[06:09] <Farnaby> schmity, you want to keep osx I assume>
[06:09] <RedEyess> and I am getting problems like I haven't configured firefox properly
[06:09] <schmity> yeah
[06:09] <RedEyess> I upgraded from 5.10
[06:09] <schmity> Farnaby: yeah
[06:09] <kieran_> schmity: if its PPC, just headbut it.
[06:09] <RedEyess> what should I do?
[06:10] <srxnr> charlesJacobs: nfts
[06:10] <bobo> im trying to install aMsn from the Add Aplications, it's asking for the Ubuntu CD but I don't have it... any way to tell the installer to look for the files online?
[06:10] <lonegeek> how do i connect to windows networks....permanetly?
[06:10] <jonathan1> RedEyess: That's why dist-upgrade isn't recommended
[06:10] <Farnaby> schmity, from what my friend the mac genious told me, osx will play better when its installed as asecondary os
[06:10] <moonman> i need help with a .run file
[06:10] <hayden> is it possible (and safe) to upgrade to 6.06 without reinstalling?
[06:10] <schmity> Farnaby: what do you mean asecondary?
[06:10] <kieran_> Farnaby: it shouldnt make a difference.
[06:10] <Farnaby> 1 sec schmity
[06:10] <beavis> anyone in here got a software raid to work ??
[06:10] <charlesJacobs> srxnr: ooooh. well that's the problem. you need to install ntfsprogs. "sudo aptitude install ntfsprogs"
[06:11] <Hexidigital_> brb
[06:11] <kieran_> schmity: What kind of mac is it?
[06:11] <RedEyess> don't worry about it
[06:11] <pacino> has anyone ever configured a touchscreen under ubuntu before?
[06:11] <RedEyess> I figured it out
[06:11] <Farnaby> schmity and kieran, from what the genious told me, osx plays better once other partitions are set up.
[06:11] <schmity> kieran_: mac mini g4
[06:11] <RedEyess> I always did a dist-upgrade on Debian
[06:11] <RedEyess> i didn't have problems
[06:11] <stevekl> Day changed to 09 Jun 2006 HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOM
[06:11] <schmity> hmm
[06:11] <jonathan1> RedEyess: okay. Yeah I did too when dapper was in development, I just thought you were new :)
[06:11] <gavagai> i did dist upgrade with no problems, but i had never used the old distro so there was nothing to lose
[06:12] <RedEyess> it's ok
[06:12] <srxnr> Omg, That's amazing.
[06:12] <charlesJacobs> srxnr: once you've done that, you have to "sudo modprobe fuse" and change the /etc/fstab mount type to ntfs-fuse
[06:12] <charlesJacobs> srxnr: linux doesn't have very good support for ntfs =/
[06:12] <kieran_> Farnaboy, i dont quite get what you mean, if you mean its better to install os's on a different partition, then ofcourse
[06:12] <Farnaby> just working off of what he has told me and he does run *nix as well though I dunno what flavor
[06:13] <Farnaby> no, from what he told me, osx plays better with other oses when they are installed first at least prior to the intel switch
[06:13] <arun> nf4: are u still searching for the codecs ?
[06:13] <mo0se> troy!!!!!!!!!!
[06:14] <kieran_> heh, the install is fine up to now, just need to edit xconf, the only problem is the bootloader, which im tryin gto solve now
[06:14] <bobby__> hi i need help installing java and lime wire i have no idea what im doing
[06:14] <mo0se> hey... hey... troy...
[06:14] <mo0se> :-D
[06:14] <nickrud> !limewire
[06:14] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[06:14] <devil_> hello
[06:14] <srxnr> /etc/fstab
[06:14] <devil_> everyone
[06:14] <nickrud> bobby_, look up for ubotu
[06:14] <a2xm> ubotu hi, it's me again.. I couldn't find the command to resume my printer
[06:14] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, a2xm
[06:14] <mo0se> ... i guess troy 'xploded.
[06:14] <troy_s> go mo0se.
[06:15] <mo0se> i got the sound to work.
[06:15] <srxnr> !frostwire
[06:15] <mo0se> it was pretty simple.
[06:15] <ubotu> [frostwire]  a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWire
[06:15] <Farnaby> I wonder how long till I switch to kubuntu
[06:15] <troy_s> mo0se:  great!
[06:15] <arun> ubotu: win32 codecs
[06:15] <ubotu> arun: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:15] <mo0se> if anyone else needs to know, you just right click the sound icon in the taskbar.
[06:15] <mo0se> go to open volume control.
[06:15] <mo0se> go to edit.
[06:15] <nickrud> Farnaby, no need to switch, just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:15] <mo0se> preferences. and then check everything.
[06:15] <a2xm> ubotu when i type lpq it said "deskjet-3550 is not ready"
[06:15] <ubotu> a2xm: what are you talking about?
[06:15] <mo0se> that's what i did.
[06:16] <_extricate_> i have ubuntu and windows on my hard-drive, and i tend to use windows more but when i get the bootup screen it defaults to ubuntu generic, how do i change this?
[06:16] <mo0se> i know someone else that had the same problem as me the other day...
[06:16] <kieran_> Ok, the wiki isnt helping, 0 results for Open Firmware, no relavant results for PPC and no relavant results for bootloader
[06:16] <Farnaby> nickrud, no net on this computer so it would be just as east
[06:16] <Farnaby> easy even
[06:16] <bobby__> yes but how do you install java
[06:16] <mo0se> oh well. just wanted to share.
[06:16] <mo0se> i'ma go to sleep now.
[06:16] <a2xm> ubotu i want to resume it from command line
[06:16] <mo0se> lol.
[06:16] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, a2xm
[06:16] <nickrud> Farnaby, heh, true.
[06:16] <Fujitsu> !ubotu
[06:16] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[06:16] <Frogsnooze> _extricate_: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:16] <Farnaby> unless I want until I get net at my new apt, so that I can use it as a file server
[06:16] <Frogsnooze> _extricate_: & then 'update-grub'
[06:16] <bobby__> how do you install java
[06:17] <gavagai> copying files from a windows share in gnome seems slooow, is there a way to check the rate?
[06:17] <gavagai> slow compared to when i do this with my laptop
[06:17] <Frogzoo> !tell bobby__ about java
[06:17] <bobo> im trying to install aMsn from the Add Aplications, it's asking for the Ubuntu DVD but I don't have a DVD drive in this computer.... how do I change the location of the breezy badger (I'm sharing the dvd in local network) but there's only Ok or Cancel but location?
[06:17] <a2xm> ubotu i did try to find the lp command for resume
[06:17] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, a2xm
[06:18] <nickrud> bobby_, install sun-java5-bin and sun-java5-plugin with synaptic if you're on 6.06
[06:18] <Frogzoo> !ubotu
[06:18] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[06:18] <Jason_> Alien interface
[06:18] <danial_> troy_s: Seems my routers manual complete contridicts itself
[06:18] <a2xm> ubotu i just dont want to go to the server phisicaly and use the GUI
[06:18] <ubotu> a2xm: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:19] <troy_s> danial:  imagine that!
[06:19] <bobo> it says to insert dvd in /cdrom.... can I change the location of that?
[06:19] <danial_> troy_s: Downloading the firmware shows, clearly, a .bin, but that apply states "All firmware files end with a ".dlf"
[06:19] <Cornellius> Alien interface ? Why ?
[06:19] <graham> hey any Apple computer users here?
[06:19] <kieran_> graham: yes
[06:20] <Jason_> I am what I am because of what *I* am.
[06:20] <bobo> anyone?
[06:20] <Jason_> Not because of what you are.
[06:20] <Jason_> Or anyone else.
[06:20] <Fujitsu> True, Jason_.
[06:20] <lonegeek> what menus allow me to setup windows network settings?
[06:20] <graham> kieran: Hi! Just installed Dapper and can't get my bluetooth keyboard working (apple) nor can i get the native resolyution of my Cinema Display going.. it's 20" and can only get 1024x768
[06:20] <a2xm> ubotu searching for resume printer command?
[06:21] <gavagai> only my admin user can have sound.  do i need to add other users to some sound group or something?
[06:21] <nickrud> gavagai, yes
[06:21] <Fujitsu> gavagai, the audio group, I believe.
[06:21] <gavagai> ok thanks
[06:21] <Daskies> !scanner
[06:21] <ubotu> For scanners in Ubuntu, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[06:21] <a2xm> does anybody know the command for resume printer?
[06:21] <nickrud> gavagai, groups <admin user> are all the normal groups for a user. You will need to add any other new user to the groups on that list
[06:22] <vapor> greetings
[06:22] <vapor> can anyone tell me what this DBUS remote thing is on x-chat
[06:23] <troy_s> graham:  those are linux issues.
[06:23] <troy_s> graham:  not apple... well the x stuff anyways.
[06:24] <vapor> wheres the x-chat channel
[06:24] <graham> troy_s: they are Linux issues, I know.. but specific to Apple hardware
[06:24] <gavagai> nickrud, does that give them sudo access?
[06:24] <troy_s> apple is just the same junk with a different logo
[06:24] <graham> hence why I am asking for Apple users...
[06:24] <troy_s> graham:  can't help with the bluetooth
[06:24] <graham> I don't think a Dell user would know how to configure my Apple Cinema Display
[06:24] <troy_s> graham:  the resolution is handled via the x server... xorg.conf will fix all of that resolution issue.
[06:24] <graham> ok cool
[06:24] <graham> is it simple?
[06:25] <nickrud> gavagai, sudo adduser <new user> admin    adds your new user to the admin group. All members of the admin group have sudo privileges.
[06:25] <troy_s> graham:  and if the dell user knew nix, they would :)
[06:25] <skippy> graham,  "sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:25] <st3v3dnd> Does anyone in here know how to use ubuntu without a GUI? I have a really messed up user/group issue that I can't seem to figure out.
[06:25] <gavagai> nickrud, that sounds a bit risky!
[06:25] <troy_s> graham:  pretty simple: figure out your native res for that monitor and the horizontal and vertical retrace
[06:25] <skippy> as for your bluetooth keyboard, that will be harder i expect
[06:25] <troy_s> graham:  someone in here can help you.
[06:25] <graham> skippy: " dpgk-reconfigure" not found
[06:25] <nickrud> gavagai, no, because they don't have the privileges unless you add them to the admin group.
[06:25] <troy_s> st3v3dnd:  ubuntu is more than a gui.  the os exists purely on the cli.
[06:26] <troy_s> dpkg
[06:26] <iiiears> Is there a fix for XChat's spell check? PERL script?
[06:26] <skippy> sorry graham its "dpkg
[06:26] <skippy> hehe
[06:26] <gavagai> nickrud, right but wasn't adding them to that group the answer to give them sound?
[06:26] <changlinn>  st3v3dnd it is just the same as debian from what I have seen
[06:26] <graham> oops! i shoulda caught that too.. thanks skippy
[06:26] <troy_s> graham:  although i would recommend you get your hands dirty with xorg.conf
[06:26] <Madpilot> iiiears, XChat has spellcheck?
[06:26] <troy_s> graham:  then you will understand the x layer a little better than the skript helping you.
[06:26] <kieran_> troy_s: you got any info on what you had to do with Open firmware? i cant find shit nothing relavant anyway
[06:26] <skippy> np mate, somtimes i wish linux wasnt so case sensitive and spelling sensitive :P
[06:27] <nickrud> gavagai, no. adding them to the audio group gives them sound usage: sudo adduser <new user> audio
[06:27] <troy_s> graham:  there are plenty of howtos, and it is vital knowledge.
[06:27] <Geoffrey2> whew...finally got my email accounts transferred to Ubuntu...that was a royal pain
[06:27] <gavagai> ok thanks
[06:27] <troy_s> kieran:  i don't know if this will help, but check www.openbsd.org on how they install... there might be a parallel there.  i learned all i know about open firmware via that doc.
[06:27] <danial> troy_s: Well the CD that came with the router doesn't seem to have a problem with the .bin filename
[06:27] <skippy> a bit off topic maybe, but has anyone tried running linux with the GNU Hurd thing as the kernel? could you do it with ubuntu?
[06:27] <troy_s> danial:  download updated manuals from online along with teh firmware and read the README or whatever.
[06:27] <troy_s> skippy:  i tried.
[06:27] <particleman> agh!
[06:28] <humbraro> skippy: there is a debian hurd subproject i think
[06:28] <iiiears> In Dapper yes, there is an empty language choice window.
[06:28] <troy_s> skippy:  but it is only for 386, and i run k8
[06:28] <skippy> yeah ive seen the deb gnu/hurd thing, i might download it
[06:28] <particleman> I've got a dell 710m with the non-Intel wireless card
[06:28] <humbraro> skippy: dunno about hurd's usability though
[06:28] <avis> would someone help me out with wpa_supplicant ?  i have wpa_gui as well.  it doesn't seem to see device ra0
[06:28] <troy_s> skippy:  its a microkernel which is kind of nifty
[06:28] <danial> troy_s: I did, and the online ones conflicted with themselves. The one from the router cd seems to show everything as expected
[06:28] <particleman> I've been following the directions as best I can to install ndiswrapper
[06:28] <skippy> yeah i just want to try it for a laugh
[06:28] <skippy> you never know, one day it might be the future :)
[06:28] <particleman> but so far I can't get it to work, and it's rather annoying
[06:28] <st3v3dnd> troy_s: yes, I know that. I'm looking for someone who knows how to work from the command line, because I'm guessing my problem might be somewhere outside of the realm of friendly GUIs.
[06:28] <humbraro> it'll be released sometime between vista and duke nukem forever
[06:29] <particleman> if anyone can offer any insight at all, it would be greatly appreciated
[06:29] <skippy> st3v3dnd, whats ur problem?
[06:29] <Farnaby> i have to say, ubuntu > suse 10 as s10 decided my moniter/graphics card didn't exist
[06:30] <troy_s> st3v3:  most folks who help in here can help you... just be specific.
[06:30] <skippy> particleman, do "lsmod | grep ndiswrapper" and see if you have loaded the module yet
[06:30] <Hexidigital_> Farnaby:: Ubuntu > most other distros
[06:30] <jaramillo> why does xhost gives me an error when i do: "xhost +asd" if "asd" is a valid user name. >>>> xhost:  bad hostname "asd"
[06:30] <troy_s> farnaby:  that is really a minor detail.
[06:30] <st3v3dnd> skippy: My user is a member of the group "svn". The group "svn" is the owner of /usr/share/svn, and the dir has the perms 775. Yet I cannot write to the directory.
[06:30] <iiiears> madpilot - I saw some perl scripts out there using ispell. though i need to be root to install. Would an IRC perl script have root privelidges?
[06:30] <schmity> can you install ubuntu on an external?
[06:30] <schmity> and will it run slower or something?
[06:30] <Madpilot> iiiears, no idea
[06:30] <troy_s> farnaby:  common and rather trivial.  the real upside is in the support and such :)
[06:31] <st3v3dnd> skippy: The only way I can write is with 777, and that shouldn't be the case because I'm in the group, and shouldn't be considered, "Others"
[06:31] <Farnaby> troy, its just nice that its that easy though
[06:31] <troy_s> iiiears:  i wouldn't let an irc perl skript have root
[06:31] <Fujitsu> st3v3dnd, you mean the group svn is the group? Groups can't be owners.
[06:31] <troy_s> iiiears:  flakey
[06:31] <Fujitsu> st3v3dnd, have you tried to log in and out?
[06:31] <lolotov> I am trying to use vncserver to remote administer my ubuntu box. I can connect fine, except that I get the grey screen and the X cursor. Is X not starting successfully? Where would the config files be that I could look at for this?
[06:31] <troy_s> farnaby:  for some... still has a long way to go -- its in its infancy.
[06:31] <danial> troy_s:  see reference in the manual (Via screenshots) to newer firmware than the site has, perhaps this firmware was "recalled"
[06:31] <jaramillo> guess noone knows ;-\
[06:31] <Hexidigital_> schmity:: if your system enables USB booting, you can do it... whether or not if it is slower, it depends on your hard drive
[06:31] <troy_s> danial:  it's a belkin.  i fear for you :)
[06:31] <skippy> hmm st3v3dnd in that case your account cant belong to that group. how are your checking?
[06:31] <danial> troy_s: The screenshots show the version I have
[06:31] <Farnaby> and hey, I am up to 800x600 now in ubuntu
[06:31] <iiiears> troy_s:  Gotta be crazier than i am to be root on IRC - rofl
[06:31] <schmity> Hexidigital_: im on a mac, what about firewire?
[06:31] <troy_s> iiiears:  root and skripts should not happen.
[06:32] <Hexidigital_> schmity:: keep in mind, with USB, your processor has to translate everything (firewire included)
[06:32] <st3v3dnd> Fujitsu: I think that's the case
[06:32] <troy_s> iiears:  not for userland stuff.
[06:32] <particleman> skippy-looks like it...do you want a paste of the 2 lines of output?
[06:32] <danial> troy_s: Yes, I should have learned my leason when I got the speedpad
[06:32] <bobby__> ubontu it said that java was not avaliable on any software channel
[06:32] <changlinn> lolotov: thats what is happening, or you are connecting to the wrong terminal
[06:32] <earthen> is there anyway to install dapper with out using the live boot
[06:32] <skippy> particleman,  if you got any output that means the modules loaded
[06:32] <Fujitsu> st3v3dnd, you need to log in and out for group membership changes to take effect.
[06:32] <skippy> so thats good
[06:32] <mlalkaka> what happened to the devhelp-books-* packages? they were in the breezy repositories, but they're not in the dapper repositories; i have main, restricted, universe, and multiverse enabled.
[06:32] <troy_s> danial:  that said, i suspect that the firmware will resolve issues.  you can't be the first using open source with the belkin.
[06:32] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell earthen about alternate.
[06:32] <st3v3dnd> Fujitsu: I just SSH'd in and I can write to the dir
[06:32] <skippy> have you got the windows driver for your hardware particleman ?
[06:32] <iiiears> troy_s: Do you think a script that calls ispell would run with user privelidges?
[06:32] <Fujitsu> st3v3dnd, good, just log out and in.
[06:32] <Farnaby> though I hav eno idea why 1024 isn't showing up now...
[06:32] <particleman> I believe so...copied it straight out of the windows partition
[06:32] <troy_s> iiiears:  what do you think ;)
[06:33] <lolotov> changlinn - I do not know enough about what is happening to fix the pronlem by myself. could you give me any ideas of what I could do or where to look to get X started correctly?
[06:33] <steel> what's the equivalent of "ipconfig" (from windows) in ubuntu?
[06:33] <earthen> Fujitsu, so I have no choise but download another cd
[06:33] <troy_s> iiiears:  if you were on a university or library computer, would root even be an option?
[06:33] <jaramillo> steel: ifconfig
[06:33] <troy_s> steel:  ifconfig
[06:33] <Agent_bob> apt is not as good as urpm.
[06:33] <srxnr> Hey guys
[06:33] <steel> thanks
[06:33] <Fujitsu> earthen, if you've got the Desktop CD, yes.
[06:33] <skippy> what exactly is your hardware particleman ?
[06:33] <Fujitsu> Agent_bob, why not!?
[06:33] <srxnr> What do i need to run flash in mozilla
[06:33] <skippy> the net card i mena
[06:33] <skippy> mean
[06:33] <jaramillo> that stands for InterFaceConfig :P
[06:33] <particleman> dell 1370 wireless I believe
[06:33] <iiiears> troy_s: I don't know but am *guessing* yes ti like does run as root.
[06:33] <changlinn> lolotov: so you are typing on the client in the vnc viewer servername/ip:terminalnumber?
[06:33] <Fujitsu> srxnr, please install flashplayer-nonfree
[06:33] <Agent_bob> Fujitsu it breaks
[06:33] <st3v3dnd> Fujitsu, skippy, troy_s: thanks for the help
[06:33] <particleman> lemme check
[06:33] <schmity> how much space is suggested for ubuntu install?
[06:33] <schmity> how much space is suggested for ubuntu install?
[06:33] <Fujitsu> Agent_bob, err... When?
[06:33] <srxnr> ty
[06:33] <Agent_bob> Fujitsu often
[06:33] <Fujitsu> schmity, around 2GB, please.
[06:34] <srxnr> and skippy, you from wpb?
[06:34] <danial> troy_s:The reason I upgraded my last one was because it had the Euro Only Firmware... I don't live in euro.
[06:34] <Fujitsu> Agent_bob, it has /never/ died for me, and I've been using Debian for about 4 years.
[06:34] <Hexidigital_> ubotu:: tell schmity about patience
[06:34] <lolotov> changlinn: yes, theni authenticate and the screen loads as per my description.
[06:34] <danial> troy_s: Here goes nothing, or something...we will see...
[06:34] <graham> skippy:  I went through that script and was able to select the appropriate display resolutions.. but i restarted X server and still can't select above 1024
[06:34] <Farnaby> troy_s: can you think of any reason why 1024x768 would not show up even when it is in xorg under all depths?
[06:34] <particleman> skippy-yeah...dell 1370 internall wireless for 700m
[06:34] <earthen> Fujitsu, problem is the live cd only boot to a 380x640 screen res and I can't see the installer
[06:34] <troy_s> danial:  fingers crossed... NO BRICK!
[06:34] <Hexidigital_> particleman:: broadcom?
[06:34] <troy_s> farnaby:  xorg.conf is the supreme ruler... ignore everything else!
[06:34] <Fujitsu> earthen, 380x640!? You mean 640x480?
[06:34] <changlinn> lolotov: what terminal number you typing in?
[06:35] <skippy> srxnr,  nah im from the UK mate
[06:35] <Farnaby> it is in xorg.conf
[06:35] <earthen> Fujitsu, yeah
[06:35] <iiiears> Farnaby - Double czhech spelling.
[06:35] <troy_s> farnaby:  if your xorg.conf has your "1280x1024" or whatever in there, it SHOULD flip to the highest by default assuming
[06:35] <Fujitsu> earthen, what video card?
[06:35] <RivaCom> I have windows media on my laptop right now, is it possible to load ubuntu and run a dual boot system without losing my information on windows right now?
[06:35] <earthen> Fujitsu, x700
[06:35] <troy_s> farnaby:  VERT and HORZ refresh allow for it.
[06:35] <Fujitsu> RivaCom, yep.
[06:35] <Madpilot> rixth, congrats - you got dubbed in the last CC meeting?
[06:35] <tritium> RivaCom: sure is
[06:35] <Fujitsu> RivaCom, just go through the installer.
[06:35] <troy_s> farnaby:  so you MUST make sure that they match your monitors specs
[06:35] <Agent_bob> Fujitsu tried apt-get remove gconf2  it says has to take all these deps with it... i say Yes  it starts and then errors on all the deps cause gconf2 is missing.... so all the deps have to be reinstalled and they require gconf2 so it has to be reinstalled to fix it......
[06:35] <skippy> graham,  type iwconfig please see what it says
[06:35] <troy_s> farnaby:  with me?
[06:35] <earthen> Fujitsu, it a ferrari Laptop
[06:35] <jaramillo> anyone knows why does xhost gives me an error when i do: "xhost +asd" if "asd" is a valid user name. >>>> xhost:  bad hostname "asd"
[06:35] <Fujitsu> earthen, that'd do it...
[06:35] <particleman> Hexi-not sure...any way to check?
[06:36] <rixth> Madpilot, CC meeting? I just signed the COC and uploaded it.
[06:36] <Fujitsu> earthen, the new ATI graphics cards don't work properly without the proprietary drivers.
[06:36] <Farnaby> yeah checking that now
[06:36] <particleman> and why do I get the feeling I'm gonna regret not having paid the extra 50 bucks for the Intel?
[06:36] <lolotov> changlinn: vncserver reports: New X desktop is: server:1, so I'm connecting to server on 1
[06:36] <graham> skippy: "no wireless connection"
[06:36] <Hexidigital_> particleman:: lsmod
[06:36] <danial> Well, this time it game me a checksum error...
[06:36] <Madpilot> rixth, ah, sorry, Ubuntero & not Ubuntu Member. My mistake. Still, cool1
[06:36] <Madpilot> !
[06:36] <Hexidigital_> particleman:: in terminal
[06:36] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Madpilot
[06:36] <particleman> or try and figure out how to get my comp retweaked
[06:36] <graham> skippy: connection = extension
[06:36] <Agent_bob> Fujitsu i never had one error with urpm    not one.... i've had many with apt.
[06:36] <RivaCom> Well im having trouble with the partition, because it shows a 4 items, primary 1,2,3 and pri/log, with prim 2,3 having 55gig, and 5gig how do i install it on just freespace?
[06:36] <Fujitsu> danial, dodgy CD, most probably.
[06:36] <tritium> rockin', rixth :)
[06:36] <Fujitsu> Agent_bob, what kind of errors!?
[06:36] <Eleaf> wfd
[06:36] <earthen> Fujitsu, yeah I have them working in the 64 bit version, but I want to have flash and some other things that are only avalible in the 32 bit version
[06:36] <particleman> Hexi-ok...what am I looking for?
[06:37] <Cornellius> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=39993 Beautiful
[06:37] <Daskies> I downloaded some drivers for xsane, and now it wont start. Anyway to revert changes, or is this common?
[06:37] <Hexidigital_> particleman:: broadcom or bcm43xx something
[06:37] <Agent_bob> Fujitsu did you not see my post on the most recent error  ^  ?
[06:37] <tritium> particleman: broadcom is supported in dapper
[06:37] <particleman> ah
[06:37] <Fujitsu> Agent_bob, what version of Ubuntu?
[06:37] <jonathan_> how can i check how much ram the system has?
[06:37] <particleman> and yeah...I think I realized what I did
[06:37] <Fujitsu> changlinn, hehe.
[06:37] <jonathan_> my system has
[06:37] <Daskies> By wont start I mean it says it scanning, and then I get a "force quit" error screen
[06:37] <Agent_bob> Fujitsu i've had it install things and then say they were not installed.  but i could run the commands...
[06:37] <Discipulus> I'm getting really choppy playback in VLC Media Player
[06:37] <skippy> graham, ok the file you should have copied over is bcmwl5.inf, you need to use "ndiswrapper -l" to check if you loaded the windows driver
[06:37] <Discipulus> how do I fix that?
[06:38] <particleman> I copied the ethernet driver, not the wireless driver
[06:38] <Hexidigital_> particleman:: my apologies, i gave you the wrong command
[06:38] <Fujitsu> Agent_bob, that's impossible.
[06:38] <particleman> lemme redo that
[06:38] <tritium> jonathan_: cat /proc/meminfo
[06:38] <danial> Fujitsu: I am upgrading a routers firmware, possibly a bad download, or firefox incompatibility(I was getting java warnings)
[06:38] <earthen> tritium, I have a brodcom and it not working for me eather
[06:38] <Agent_bob> Fujitsu hoary now.  dapper only a few days ago.
[06:38] <Fujitsu> Agent_bob, dpkg is incredibly stable.
[06:38] <Fujitsu> Agent_bob, HOARY!?
[06:38] <troy_s> out folks.  keep up the good work.
[06:38] <tritium> earthen: dapper?  native driver, or ndiswrapper?
[06:38] <Hexidigital_> particleman:: dmesg
[06:38] <Fujitsu> danial, bad download, Firefox shouldn't have caused it,.
[06:38] <RivaCom> Well im having trouble with the partition, because it shows a 4 items, primary 1,2,3 and pri/log, with prim 2,3 having 55gig, and 5gig how do i install it on just freespace?
[06:38] <earthen> tritium, dappre and i tried both ways
[06:38] <Agent_bob> Fujitsu call me a lier if you must.    show your ignorance any way you choose.
[06:39] <Daskies> The page says my scanner is supported . . .
[06:39] <skippy> !ndiswrapper
[06:39] <ubotu> methinks ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[06:39] <tritium> earthen: it's not perfect yet, that's for sure
[06:39] <troy_s> agent_bob:  he just said it is stable.
[06:39] <jonathan_> tritium, thanks man
[06:39] <troy_s> agent_bob:  and he is 100% correct.
[06:39] <Fujitsu> Agent_bob, why Hoary?
[06:39] <earthen> tritium, but i'm running 64 bit i'm not sure if that is the reason fro the native drivers not working or not
[06:39] <Agent_bob> Fujitsu cause i don't like dapper
[06:39] <Hexidigital_> tritium:: broadcom is supported, but i still had to dl bcm43xx-fwcutter and tweak LOTS of things... particleman isn't sure what type of card he has
[06:39] <Fujitsu> Agent_bob, why not!?
[06:39] <tritium> earthen: could be
[06:39] <tritium> Hexidigital_: I'm not surprised
[06:39] <Agent_bob> why should i ?
[06:39] <troy_s> earthen:  native drivers are open source.  proprietary you will have problems possibly.
[06:39] <danial> Fujitsu: I tried two downloads, but returned error. I though firefox because it wasn't liking the javascript, too much for it
[06:40] <earthen> tritium, well if you mean not perfict as in not working then you right on! :P
[06:40] <Fujitsu> Err... Javascript too much for Firefox!!?? I think not.
[06:40] <skippy> graham why dont you try the graphical frontend for ndiswrapper -ndisgtk
[06:40] <Agent_bob> Fujitsu dapper is too buggy for my taste.
[06:40] <danial> Fujitsu:Well, not too much for it, but rather it seemed to be too active, firefox though it was going to lock it up
[06:40] <Fujitsu> Agent_bob, what is different that you don't like!?
[06:40] <Daskies> Anyone?
[06:40] <Daskies> I downloaded some drivers for xsane, and now it wont start. Anyway to revert changes, or is this common?
[06:40] <_extricate_> hey guys i wanna change my default os in bootup and i found this but i'm not 100% sure on what to do here
[06:40] <Hexidigital_> tritium:: it was a pain... i had to rename eth1 to wlan0, and i still have to restart my card when i start my laptop to enable a connection to my AP... and i cannot connect to my college's AP's
[06:40] <earthen> ndswrapper worked fine in horay
[06:40] <Fujitsu> Agent_bob, Dapper is stable as a rock!
[06:40] <_extricate_> ...
[06:40] <_extricate_> default     0
[06:40] <_extricate_> ...
[06:40] <_extricate_>     * Replace with the following line
[06:40] <_extricate_> default     X_sequence
[06:40] <SurfnKid> earthen, yeap tacowrapper is awesome
[06:40] <tritium> earthen: it's better than not having it, though.  It gives the powerbook guys _some_ level of support
[06:40] <troy_s> ndiswrapper is a kludge.
[06:40] <Agent_bob> then rocks crunble
[06:40] <tritium> _extricate_: pastebin!
[06:40] <Hexidigital_> ubotu:: tell _extricate_ about pastebin
[06:40] <troy_s> agent_bob:  try #haiku
[06:40] <SurfnKid> Fujitsu, hows it running
[06:41] <earthen> SurfnKid, what is tacowrapper
[06:41] <Fujitsu> SurfnKid, ?
[06:41] <_extricate_> wow wow it's not that long lol
[06:41] <Agent_bob> troy_s who yanked your chain ?
[06:41] <SurfnKid> earthen, its ndiswrapper
[06:41] <Hexidigital_> earthen:: you put meat and cheese inside and eat it :)
[06:41] <Fujitsu> Agent_bob, bugs such as?
[06:41] <SurfnKid> Fujitsu, oh.. i thought y ou had just installed Dapper
[06:41] <jonathan_> hey guys, im on xubuntu, what if I want to install gnome but not the entire bulky ubuntu-desktop package?
[06:41] <Fujitsu> SurfnKid, I've been running it for four months.
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> Agent_bob, So do you have all of your hardware supported on Hoary then?
[06:41] <raguanu> A little help here. My ethernet card is not detected in Ubuntu (Dapper). - CNet Fast200WL PCI Wake On LAN Fast Ethernet Adapter
[06:41] <tritium> Hexidigital_: that would be a shell, not a wrapper
[06:41] <Daskies> I downloaded some drivers for xsane, and now all it does is say "scanning for a device" and then I get a force quit message. Anyway to revert changes, or is this common?
[06:41] <earthen> SurfnKid, ok guess i missed that one
[06:42] <SurfnKid> Fujitsu, cool
[06:42] <Hexidigital_> tritium:: :)
[06:42] <Agent_bob> tonyyarusso sure.
[06:42] <tritium> :)
[06:42] <SurfnKid> earthen, hehe its cool
[06:42] <Daskies> Scanner is supported
[06:42] <_extricate_> no ideas?
[06:42] <Agent_bob> hoary is only a year old tonyyarusso
[06:42] <tritium> Daskies: you shouldn't need to download drivers
[06:42] <earthen> SurfnKid, do you have a brodcom working using it
[06:42] <jonathan_> Anybody? Please? I'm in a hurry. Basically I'm on xubuntu and I want to install GNOME without all the bulk of ubuntu-desktop
[06:42] <tonyyarusso> Agent_bob, True, but I've been amazed how much can change in a year.
[06:42] <SurfnKid> earthen, yep 5.10 just got it going earlier real easy setup. with the broadcom drivers.
[06:42] <Daskies> tritium, I know, I found that out after I did, and now it doesn't work
[06:42] <skippy> theres a package called ubuntu-minimal, but i dont know if it has gnome
[06:42] <Fujitsu> Try just gnome, jonathan_.
[06:43] <tonyyarusso> Agent_bob, I probably would upgrade for the new OOo alone myself.
[06:43] <jonathan_> Fujitsu, sudo apt-get install gnome
[06:43] <Fujitsu> tonyyarusso, yeah.
[06:43] <Fujitsu> jonathan_, yes.
[06:43] <jonathan_> Fujitsu, thanks will try :(
[06:43] <pradeep> jonathan_, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:43] <Madpilot> Daskies, reinstall the xsane package, after you remove the driver package
[06:43] <Fujitsu> pradeep, he said he didn't want that.
[06:43] <earthen> SurfnKid, O ok don't upgrade to dapper then cause it killed mine
[06:43] <jonathan_> yeah...:)
[06:43] <pradeep> oops sorry
[06:43] <Daskies> Madpilot, How do you remove the driver package?
[06:43] <danial> Arg, why can't people just follow networking standards
[06:43] <jonathan_> its okay :)
[06:43] <particleman> glargh...ok, so I tried the other set of driver
[06:43] <particleman> s
[06:43] <Daskies> Madpilot, sudo apt-get remove [package]  ?
[06:43] <Madpilot> Daskies, depends how you installed it
[06:43] <Agent_bob> tonyyarusso oo  i never mess with it.   but if i did i might agree with you.
[06:43] <danial> Seems like that would be easier than inventing new ones
[06:44] <tritium> SurfnKid: you should have mentioned you had broadcom earlier...
[06:44] <Daskies> Madpilot, sudo apt-get install [package]
[06:44] <particleman> but basically it looks like Ubuntu is detecting the wired card as eth0, and the wireless as eth1
[06:44] <SurfnKid> earthen, yeah i killed Dapper today, full install and big wifi problems, now im back on 5.10  got wifi and the video card back up. Ill read some more on dapper later on
[06:44] <tonyyarusso> Agent_bob, Fair enough.  (I can't really talk here - we have a laptop running Windows 3.1 in my house.)
[06:44] <SurfnKid> tritium, ye
[06:44] <Agent_bob> :)
[06:44] <particleman> but it only wants to install either driver for eth0, not eth1
[06:44] <Madpilot> Daskies, then sudo apt-get remove [thing] , yes
[06:44] <SurfnKid> tritium, i didnt like the eth1 thingy i was used to wlan0
[06:44] <ijeff> Help quick someone: There's no way to get my mobility radeon 7500 to reach 1900x1200 on my external monitor??
[06:44] <Agent_bob> tonyyarusso  that's more than a year old   shame on you....   lol
[06:44] <earthen> SurfnKid, yeah dapper is useless to me with out wifi  for my laptop
[06:44] <particleman> which, needless to say, is kind of a problem :P
[06:45] <ijeff> Help quick someone: There's no way to get my mobility radeon 7500 to reach 1900x1200 on my external monitor?? If not, ill be putting away this monitor (T_T)
[06:45] <tonyyarusso> Agent_bob, It's only like...oh dear...10?
[06:45] <Daskies> Madpilot, And how do I reinstall? >_<
[06:45] <Agent_bob> 12
[06:45] <tonyyarusso> Agent_bob, Most stable Windows machine I've ever seen.
[06:45] <SurfnKid> earthen, exactly. which is why i just got back on Breezy
[06:45] <RivaCom> Well im having trouble with the partition, because it shows a 4 items, primary 1,2,3 and pri/log, with prim 2,3 having 55gig, and 5gig how do i install it on just freespace?
[06:45] <troy_s> ijeff:  uh is it a 20 inch crt?
[06:45] <SurfnKid> earthen, used up a lot of resources too, i still havent put my 1.7centrino on it. running 1.4 now
[06:45] <Madpilot> Daskies, I hardly ever use apt-get... there is something like apt-get reinstall, though
[06:45] <troy_s> ijeff:  cuz you aren't getting 1900x1200 without 20" or more of crt.
[06:46] <particleman> Riva-this I can kinda help with...they only all 4 primary partitions
[06:46] <Agent_bob> tonyyarusso yeah.  so why upgrade something that works....   and you will see my point.
[06:46] <skippy> ijeff,  that depends on the capabilities of the card and the monitor - if they can do it then yes
[06:46] <particleman> you'll have to change one to an extended partition
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> Agent_bob, Yep.
[06:46] <particleman> and then subpartition that
[06:46] <tritium> Daskies: apt-get install --reinstall <package name>
[06:46] <Agent_bob> tonyyarusso but i see yours also.
[06:46] <fiendskull9> !wmv
[06:46] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:46] <RivaCom> so like the 55 gig one?
[06:46] <ijeff> troy_s: wait, i think i got the number wrong lol!
[06:46] <particleman> yah
[06:46] <SurfnKid> :)
[06:46] <particleman> yah
[06:46] <RivaCom> and this won't erase the windows stuff?
[06:47] <particleman> so anyway...anyone got any further ideas on my problems?
[06:47] <Fujitsu> RivaCom, not unless you tell it to.
[06:47] <_extricate_> file:///home/josh/Desktop/post_15366.txt
[06:47] <particleman> I don't think so
[06:47] <_extricate_> can anyone elaborate on that
[06:47] <raguanu> Help Please : how to make Cnet Fast200WL ethernet adapter work in Ubuntu?
[06:47] <ijeff> skippy: can i reach above 1024x168 if my external monitor supports? i can't figure out how to set it up
[06:47] <earthen> SurfnKid, I have my desktop on Dapper and have never been so happy
[06:47] <JohnsonE> hello again, all >_>
[06:47] <JohnsonE> is charles still here?
[06:47] <Daskies> Thanks, Madpilot and tritium. Should I restart too?
[06:47] <particleman> ah yes...the joys of wireless networking in linux
[06:47] <Fujitsu> !justask
[06:47] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[06:47] <Agent_bob> particleman i have not seen what your problem is,   care to repete ?
[06:47] <particleman> the one area where the beloved os still kind of sucks
[06:47] <Madpilot> Daskies, probably no need to reboot
[06:47] <particleman> Agent_bob-sure
[06:47] <raguanu> Help Please : how to make Cnet Fast200WL ethernet adapter work in Ubuntu?
[06:47] <particleman> I've got a dell 710m, with the dell 1370 internal wireless
[06:48] <Madpilot> particleman, Cat5 is the One True Way, don't you know? ;)
[06:48] <Fujitsu> !patience
[06:48] <SurfnKid> earthen, but u cant get wifi going?
[06:48] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[06:48] <_extricate_> i'm trying to change my default os, and i found this on ubuntu dapper but i'm not 100% on what it means, if anyone can elaborate on this lemme know
[06:48] <_extricate_> file:///home/josh/Desktop/post_15366.txt
[06:48] <SurfnKid> patience patience!
[06:48] <particleman> which looks to be a Broadcom chipset
[06:48] <Hexidigital_> mmm.... who would've thought pretzels made of cheese would be so good
[06:48] <skippy> ijeff you can set higher resolutions by running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", but you will always be limited by the capabilities of your hardware - you need to know what those capabilities are im afraid , linux wont tell you :(
[06:48] <lonegeek> how can i set vlc to default video player?
[06:48] <Agent_bob> particleman nough said.
[06:48] <JohnsonE> i need to know the command for making a hard drive (partition) with global write access. I was told to do "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" but it was already set to defaults
[06:48] <particleman> I've followed the instructions best I can for ndiswrapper
[06:48] <particleman> oh
[06:48] <particleman> that bad huh?
[06:48] <ijeff> skippy: what sort of limitations?
[06:48] <Madpilot> _extricate_, we can't read a file that's only on your computer...
[06:48] <SurfnKid> particleman, dapper or breezy
[06:48] <particleman> the system detects the wired plug as eth0, and the wireless as eth1
[06:48] <Agent_bob> particleman yeah.... i can't help.   sorry
[06:48] <ToHellWithGA> _extricate_: you realize you linked to a local file, right?
[06:48] <earthen> SurfnKid, no my desktop is wired, I'm trying to get wifi on my laptop
[06:48] <Hexidigital_> ubotu:: tell particleman about bcm43xx
[06:48] <Daskies> Madpilot, Drats, didn't work. I run Xsane and then I get "scanning for devices" then if I put another window over top of it, and then put it to the top again it goes blank, and when I try and quit I get a force quit thing
[06:49] <particleman> and ndiswrapper will only install for the wireless card
[06:49] <_extricate_> whooops lol
[06:49] <SurfnKid> earthen, ah
[06:49] <particleman> 6.x...Dapper, yes?
[06:49] <ToHellWithGA> lol indeed :p
[06:49] <SurfnKid> particleman, yep
[06:49] <Roots> Is there a way to find out what package a missing header file belongs to? I'm missing "GL/gl.h" but I've installed every OpenAL and video driver library I can think of (gl.h existed before I upgradted from breezy to dapper.....)
[06:49] <JohnsonE> i need to know the command for making a hard drive (partition) with global write access. I was told to do "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" but it was already set to defaults
[06:49] <skippy> ijeff: all monitors have a maximum refresh rate which they are capable of at a given resolution.  Monitors also have a maximum resolution
[06:49] <Fujitsu> Err..
[06:49] <ToHellWithGA> _extricate_: what's your question.  don't make everyone read something from a link if you can form a question
[06:49] <Fujitsu> Roots, gl.h is part of OpenGL, not OpenAL.
[06:49] <particleman> bcm43xx?
[06:49] <tritium> Roots: apt-file is useful for that
[06:49] <Hexidigital_> particleman:: ubotu sent you a link to a page to set up your broadcom card... my suggestion is to get rid of ndiswrapper
[06:49] <Fujitsu> !find GL/gl.h
[06:49] <ijeff> skippy: i know for sure it can go higher than 1024x168