[00:02] <histo> !ftpd | MrDyne
[00:07] <danny> what kind of extensions can tar extract?
[00:07] <danny> tar command
[00:07] <danny> anyone plz?
[00:08] <histo> danny: a bunch they are all listed if you tar --help
[00:09] <histo> danny: but it's not really tar doing the uncompression it's just filtering it through other apps
[00:09] <histo> danny: like bzip2 xz lzip lzma lzop gzip
[00:09] <Pici> or libraries
[00:09] <danny> histo: ok got you thx
[00:11] <lavolanta> any help setting up a access point on a linux box?
[00:11] <Adam-85> i try to change mode for user to run vbox setting
[00:12] <holstein> lavolanta: did you try from a live CD? with the GUI tool i mentioned?
[00:12] <Adam-85> sudo chown adam:users /media/Data/VBOX/usb.vmdk
[00:12] <Adam-85> and my user is adam
[00:12] <danny> How safe is it to download and extract a compressed file in linux?
[00:13] <danny> Anyone?!
[00:13] <holstein> danny: depends.. i would do it as my normal user.. patiently
[00:13] <dr_willis> danny: safe to extract...    running is another story
[00:13] <epzil0n> depends on from where you got it i guess
[00:13] <danny> thx
[00:14] <dr_willis> depends on a lot of things....
[00:14] <dr_willis> same as it would in any os.
[00:14] <epzil0n> as usual :P
[00:14] <nullucas> Hi, is there a way to set up a personalized input method based on simple replacements? For example, whenever I type :dollar: it replaces it with $, or :schwa: becomes ə, etcetera
[00:14] <dr_willis> worse case if ran as a user.. it messes with the users files
[00:15] <ClientAlive> how does ubuntu maintain the kernel and bootloader as far as updates are concerned?
[00:16] <holstein> ClientAlive: there are teams.. and volunteers. developers. they update them
[00:17] <ClientAlive> holstein: oh, no. I meant in the ubuntu o/s
[00:17] <holstein> ClientAlive: how does the ubuntu os maintain the kerne and bootloader updates?
[00:18] <ClientAlive> holstein: I'm planning to use a custom kernel and possibly a different bootloader than grub2. How can I make sure that updates to those items are stopped?
[00:18] <holstein> ClientAlive: they come in when a new one is available.. the old kernels are left there.. the bootloader shoulnt need to be messed with
[00:18] <holstein> ClientAlive: you can pin.. or remove.. or just update them, and use others
[00:19] <ClientAlive> so sudo apt-get purge <kernel> would prevent any future updates to the kernel?
[00:19] <holstein> ClientAlive: no.. that would purge the kernel.. and since its not installed, not get any updates
[00:20] <ClientAlive> ok
[00:20] <yahbah> the us is going to kill mr shutlworth
[00:20] <holstein> !ot | yahbah
[00:20] <ClientAlive> is there a way to manually stop updates? (maybe delete some script or change the configuration of aptitude or something)?
[00:20] <yahbah> http://politics.slashdot.org/story/13/03/21/2115213/do-nations-have-the-right-to-kill-enemy-hackers
[00:21] <holstein> ClientAlive: you can pin
[00:21] <holstein> yahbah: please go to the ot channel with those.. thanks!
[00:21] <ClientAlive> what is that?
[00:21] <yahbah> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/03/21/2235251/canonical-and-china-announce-ubuntu-collaboration
[00:22] <yahbah> http://politics.slashdot.org/story/13/03/21/203249/political-pressure-pushes-nasa-technical-reports-offline
[00:22] <holstein> ClientAlive: pinning a package pins it down.. so it wont get upgraded if an upgrade comes.. its in the menu in synaptic.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[00:22] <ClientAlive> holstein: or can you give me a search term to use on google for it?
[00:22] <ClientAlive> excellent. thx
[00:22] <holstein> ClientAlive: package pinning..
[00:24] <lavolanta> holstein: it doesnt work i told you my brother
[00:24] <holstein> lavolanta: in what way?.. what are the errors?
[00:25] <ClientAlive> holstein: so then if I never install the ubuntu kernel to begin with I won't have to worry about updates anyway? Suppose I manually install a custom kernel right from the start.
[00:26] <holstein> ClientAlive: the ubuntu installer installs one. but yes. if you remove a package, it will not get upgrades
[00:26] <ClientAlive> holstein: right on. thx man
[00:27] <ClientAlive> holstein: what do you think the name to use in an apt-get command would be? Same as it's file name?
[00:27] <Krayne> Hello
[00:27] <yahbah> hello
[00:28] <holstein> ClientAlive: if i were you, i would use a package manager.. synaptic.. also, i would use the stock kernel
[00:28] <yahbah> how you doing?
[00:30] <ClientAlive> holstein: yeah, that's not gonna be possible in my situation. I mean, maybe i could get it to happen by doing the same manual install I would have to do for a custom kernel, but then why not just make my own high performance kernel anyway? I mean, if I have to go to all the trouble anyway...
[00:30] <holstein> ClientAlive: do what you want.. i dont think there is any reason to run a custom kernel
[00:30] <ClientAlive> bestides, booting with the kernel's stub loader is kinda the piont of this project anyway
[00:33] <IanATompkins> hello is there a server channel?
[00:33] <ClientAlive> what about the way getting updates of other things sometimes results in the initrd being updated? Would updating the initrd for a custom kernel be someting I need to address?
[00:33] <IanATompkins> I'm having a ton of trouble getting wpa_supplicant to work...
[00:34] <sensa> hello how can use gaming keyboard on ubuntu?
[00:34] <sensa> i mean that special keybinding?
[00:34] <holstein> sensa: i would just plug it in and see if it works
[00:34] <holstein> !server | IanATompkinsia
[00:34] <sensa> i know, keybinding for special keys
[00:34] <sensa> G1,G2,M1,M2
[00:34] <holstein> sensa: i would just go to the keyboard bindings section
[00:35] <sensa> i tryed didnt work
[00:35] <sensa> logitech g105  <---keyboard
[00:35] <IanATompkins> thankyou | holstein
[00:35] <sensa> whenn i push G1 open help menu , F1 too
[00:36] <ai6pg> try man keymaps
[00:36] <sensa> im newbie
[00:36] <dr_willis> theres g15 software for my logitech g15
[00:36] <sensa> english isnt perfect too
[00:36] <dr_willis> in the repos.
[00:37] <sensa> thanks dr_willis
[00:37] <ai6pg> man keymap at the command line shows you how to change the keycodes to different keys
[00:37] <sensa> im tryin
[00:37] <IanATompkins> oh umm, I know what it is, I've been trying to get my wireless card to connect via WPA2 for like 4 hours now.
[00:37] <IanATompkins> I'm just trying to find a channel that might be helpful in figuring this out.
[00:40] <ClientAlive> am I remembering correctly that an initrd can be embedded in the kernel?
[00:41] <dr_willis> hmm..  perhaps a tiny one?
[00:46] <tigrang> I installed fglrx drivers and then uninstalled them because the panel and launcher in unity no longer showed, but even after installing it, they're not appearing anymore.
[00:46] <tigrang> even after UNinstalling*
[00:47] <dr_willis> tigrang:  make sure you are not using the old xorg.conf file still. Ive sene others mention/ask this in here befor. but never saw a definitive fix.
[00:47] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com may  have some info on it.
[00:48] <tigrang> dr_willis, I dont have an xorg.conf file, Yea im looking on there, no luck yet
[00:48] <dr_willis> compiz is failing for some reason.
[00:48] <dr_willis> you  could try stating it from a terminal so  you can see error messages
[00:48] <dr_willis> ive sen this 'unity loading a partial desktop' issue with nvidia, ati, and even Intel gfx'
[00:48] <dr_willis> never seen a definitive reason as to why - or how to fix.
[00:49] <k1lled> i try to start virtual 13.04 aphla ubuntu, but when i click to start, or click to install on HDD have a error for miss a some file, i dont remember a name of file... Sry my english is bad... someone know how i can fix that?
[00:49] <dr_willis> k1lled:  double check the dvd.iso files  md5,  veryfiy its good..  also you could try a daily build iso.  and support for 13.04 is in #UBUNTU+1
[00:50] <tigrang> dr_willis, Error: Plugin 'opengl' not loaded. and Warn: No default decoration found
[00:50] <dr_willis> compiz uses window 'decorators' to handle the actual titlebar and buttons.  i think the default is gtk-decorator
[00:51] <dr_willis> opengl is what handles the 3d  stuff i belive.     Ive not messed with compiz in ages.
[00:51] <dr_willis> !find gtk-decorator
[00:52] <dr_willis> hmm.. must be  a differnt name these days
[00:54] <trism> gtk-window-decorator
[00:54] <dr_willis> i imagine its the gl issue thats killing things..  sincce its an 'error' and not a 'warning'
[00:55] <th3k1n60fk1n65> Hi I need some help with my internal hard disk. I'm a new user to Ubuntu 12.10 and I really do love it. Only problem is I can't get into my hard disk. The error I get is "unable to mount location can't mount file". Any chance I could get some help? :D
[00:55] <dr_willis> th3k1n60fk1n65:  how are you ttrying to access/mount it?
[00:56] <dr_willis> and whats on the internal hd?
[00:56] <boston62> what cause the Dummy Output in Ubuntu 12.04?
[00:57] <th3k1n60fk1n65> currently my younger brother has some .minecraft folder he needs access to. i'm in attempt to access it through go>computer>350 GB Hard Disk
[00:57] <dr_willis> try mounting it by hand. look for error messages.
[00:57] <dr_willis> !mount | th3k1n60fk1n65
[00:57] <dr_willis> bbl.. got a job to do.
[00:58] <holstein> th3k1n60fk1n65: try accessing anything else there as well
[00:59] <ritmo2k_> Hey guys, at the time Ubuntu desktop 12.04 was released, there was no distinction in filename between the lts 12.04 release, are they the same, how does one tell the difference?
[00:59] <jrib> ritmo2k_: 12.04 is 12.04
[00:59] <holstein> !12.04
[00:59] <jrib> ritmo2k_: if you are still not sure, be more specific about what files you are talking about
[01:00] <ritmo2k_> jrib: Ok, so why does the download page offer two links, one with, and one without lts in the "button"?
[01:00] <sensa> one more question. How can i configure, when my friend connect to my server to set alarm or aplay etc.. i tryed  set to /home/friend/.profile  and didnt work
[01:00] <maciej234> i've been having this issue with ubuntu, when i Resume from Suspend, many times the screen will just be black and won't turn on
[01:00] <th3k1n60fk1n65> i can access the file system and my cd/dvd drive but not the 350 GB Hard disk
[01:00] <jrib> ritmo2k_: be more specific about what files you are talking about
[01:00] <holstein> th3k1n60fk1n65: nothing on the hard disk?
[01:00] <ritmo2k_> Just the iso, so I that I know if I installed an "lts release"
[01:01] <jrib> ritmo2k_: be more specific about what files you are talking about; or just trust that there is only one 12.04
[01:01] <ritmo2k_> So right now, the desktop points to 12.10 and lts points to 12.04.2
[01:01] <ClientAlive> why do I see "updating initrd" when I do an update?
[01:01] <m3pow> hello guys !
[01:01] <holstein> ritmo2k_: the 12.04 *is* the lts
[01:01] <asmcoder8> hello m3pow
[01:01] <m3pow> any particular reason why i loose my DSL connection in Ubuntu 12.10 ?
[01:01] <th3k1n60fk1n65> holstein: there shouldn't be anything on the hard disk. erased the disk to install ubuntu 12.10
[01:02] <ritmo2k_> Ok, heh, I get it, just odd there are two links, and one says desktop and one says lts?
[01:02] <holstein> th3k1n60fk1n65: open a file manager, do you see the hard drive on the left side?
[01:02] <m3pow> everything just stops and i can see it in the connection panel
[01:02] <m3pow> i do have to restart the laptop to have the DSL available again
[01:02] <asmcoder8> yes
[01:03] <th3k1n60fk1n65> holstein: I can see the hard drive
[01:04] <holstein> th3k1n60fk1n65: then click on it, mount it, and share errors
[01:04] <ritmo2k_> hostein: Check out http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop do you see that it offers two links? I have a vendor saying I needed to use LTS but I didnt, I know I picked the first link, problem is at that time, both filenames were the same, which is silly...
[01:04] <ritmo2k_> holstein: Sorry, fat fingered that msg to you
[01:04] <jrib> ritmo2k_: 12.04 is lts.  If you have version 12.04 (lsb_release -a), then you have lts
[01:04] <amber__> Anyone have trouble with spotify on 12.04?
[01:05] <th3k1n60fk1n65> holstein: Could not read the contents of 320 GB Hard Disk, the file is not a directory
[01:05] <holstein> th3k1n60fk1n65: what would i do? if there is nothing on the drive, i would reformat it
[01:05] <ritmo2k_> jrib: Ok checking that
[01:08] <elisa87> why this error ? jalal@mona:~$ git clone git@github.com:bakks/virginian.git
[01:08] <elisa87> Cloning into 'virginian'...
[01:08] <elisa87> Permission denied (publickey).
[01:08] <elisa87> fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
[01:08] <analyst> #bookz
[01:08] <jrib> elisa87: Permission denied (publickey)
[01:09] <kalenjohnson> you need to include a keyfile to access it elisa87
[01:09] <elisa87> Permission denied (publickey).  jrlib what should I do?
[01:09] <elisa87> I don't know how to do so kalenjohnson
[01:10] <kalenjohnson> Is that the same as an SSH keyfile?
[01:10] <escott> elisa87, you need to upload your pub key to github. they have instructions on how to do that
[01:10] <kalenjohnson> seems like the same error
[01:10] <jrib> elisa87: are you the owner of this repository or do you just want to clone the code locally?
[01:10] <th3k1n60fk1n65> holstein: I'll give that a go and see what happens. Thanks for the help!
[01:10] <elisa87> no I am not the owner I want to get something from there
[01:11] <elisa87> jalal@mona:~$ ssh-add -l
[01:11] <escott> elisa87, if you just want to pull you dont need to use the git link. pull via http
[01:11] <elisa87> The agent has no identities.
[01:11] <elisa87>  jrlib
[01:11] <jrib> elisa87: then git clone https://github.com/bakks/virginian.git
[01:12] <elisa87> ah ok thanks a lot escott and jrib
[01:14] <tigrang> gah I dont want to reinstall =/
[01:14] <kalenjohnson> reinstall is so fun
[01:14] <kalenjohnson> so fresh and so clean
[01:21] <ksbalaji> I have usb os, facing update problems. I presume many would be having similar problems. Can something be done?
[01:23] <ksbalaji> Am I connected to ubuntu?
[01:23] <holstein> ksbalaji: facing update problems?
[01:24] <tigrang> dr_willis, for future reference for someone else, removing ~/.cache and ~/.config worked
[01:25] <ksbalaji> Thanks holstein - This channel used to be busy. No activity now? Yes I face update problems with my usb stick. I face initramfs update problem. I think many of us face this. Cant something be done?
[01:25] <holstein> ksbalaji: done about what?
[01:25] <kalenjohnson> I'd say it's busy. Look at all the people
[01:26] <holstein> ksbalaji: if you want to update, just update.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ..you also can just not upgrade
[01:26] <ksbalaji> holstein: About removing this initramfs update problem.
[01:26] <holstein> ksbalaji: elaborate more about your update issue.. assume i have no idea what issue you have
[01:26] <holstein> !paste | ksbalaji use a pastebin to illustrate *exact* error messages
[01:27] <ksbalaji> holstein: I do not upgrade. I just use synaptic or update manager to update. I keep on getting some initramfs update error. I googled some and found many facing similar problem.
[01:27] <holstein> ksbalaji: open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update" and share the errors via pastebin
[01:28] <ksbalaji> holstein: ok
[01:32] <ksbalaji> holstein: http://pastebin.com/8wffDwrC This has no error since I have tried to update some time back with errors.
[01:33] <djshotglass> is there a command line tool to look though installed packages and uninstall some
[01:33] <jrib> djshotglass: using what criteria?
[01:33] <holstein> !aptitude
[01:34] <bekor>  friends i am using 12.04 i have old kernels that i have tried everything i can thing of to get rid of.i can not even istall new programs now.any sugesstions?
[01:34] <ksbalaji> holstein: I just am not good at handling aptitude. Maybe am not patient enough to understand messages.
[01:35] <holstein> ksbalaji: that was for djshotglass
[01:35] <ksbalaji> holstein: ok
[01:35] <holstein> ksbalaji: what is your issue?
[01:35] <holstein> ksbalaji: i see no errors there.. run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and share errors
[01:36] <Legend2013> Hello Ubuntu people
[01:36] <bekor> can not remove old kernels, if i update to the newest kernel will it clean everything up?
[01:37] <holstein> bekor: i keep a few old ones around on purpose.. sudo apt-get autoremove might offer to "cleanup"
[01:37] <Legend2013> Is there a specific channel to discuss developing ubuntu software?
[01:37] <ksbalaji> holstein: I just gave the command you suggested and pasted the output. That was without errors since I just now updated - with errors. I dare not upgrade since I am on a single ubuntu usb stick. My hdd is down. My dvd/cd live copy is very old.
[01:38] <holstein> bekor: you can always search for them in the package manager of your choice and remove them
[01:38] <bekor> nothing has worked i do not mind keeping them around if i could at least still down load software
[01:38] <holstein> bekor: ?
[01:38] <bekor> i have tried that also
[01:38] <holstein> bekor: just search and remove them
[01:39] <bekor> search how?
[01:39] <Xander_> Any ideas on how to fix the sound on ubuntu 12.04? It plays, but it sounds hollow. The low end doesn't come in for some reason.
[01:40] <ksbalaji> holstein: I just wish to get information on usb update problems with initramfs not responding for updates in usb sticks.
[01:42] <ksbalaji> It is quite some time since I logged here. I wish to know improvements in usb stick os update errors regarding initramfs not updating properly. I still have the problem.
[01:44] <holstein> ksbalaji: i dont know what you are talking about
[01:44] <ubuntu22> I just updated my 12.04 and now audacious won't play music, it will load everything fine but when I press play it doesn't do anything, like the time doesn't progress.  I also cannot listen to music on soundcloud.com
[01:44] <bekor> i have tried all the tricks you suggested to remove my kernel old kernel but no luck
[01:44] <holstein> ksbalaji: i have no problem with my usb sticks.. what problem are you having? start with "im running this operating system on this machine on this hardware"
[01:45] <holstein> bekor: i dont think so. you go to a package manager, and search "linux" and find your kernels, and remove them.. you can use synaptic
[01:45] <bekor> i  can try again
[01:45] <holstein> bekor: no.. im not suggesting you "try" anything.. if you want them removed, you can remove them via a package manager.. if not, dont worry with it..
[01:46] <bekor> i have catualy tried it but maybe i do not know what i am doing
[01:46] <bekor> are you talkindg about synaptic?
[01:48] <ubuntu22> Also, when I try to view flash video's my firefox crashes / lags out.
[01:49] <holstein> bekor: synaptic is what i suggested.. you search "linux" and sort by "installed applications".. the kernels you have will be there, in order.. you right click and mark for removal
[01:49] <holstein> ubuntu22: i use chrome for flash.. that is the only current flash available for linux
[01:49] <ksbalaji> holstein: ok np. Thanks for trying.  It is also nice to know that you have no problem with your usb stick. I shall try something like fresh install. Now, I have lucid 10.04 kernel 2.6.32-45-generic and gnome 2.30.2
[01:49] <user_> Hi Guys
[01:50] <holstein> ksbalaji: trying what?
[01:50] <ubuntu22> holstein,  I just updated my 12.04 and now audacious won't play music, it will load everything fine but when I press play it doesn't do anything, like the time doesn't progress.  I also cannot listen to music on soundcloud.com
[01:50] <holstein> ksbalaji: i dont know what your issue is?
[01:50] <holstein> ksbalaji: what probem are you having?
[01:50] <bekor> i have tried that and it does not work
[01:50] <holstein> ubuntu22: you have no system audio?
[01:51] <ubuntu22> holstein, I am playing a game in wine right now and there is sound working
 try to open the shell and execute command 'killall pulseaudio'
[01:51] <zentwin> How do I boot in text mode
[01:52] <holstein> ubuntu22: ok.. so try google-chrome (not chromium) and see if that solves your flash audio issues
[01:52] <user_> Guys, i have a question about XUBUNTU
[01:52] <user_> what is the default/standard startup sequence
[01:52] <ksbalaji> holstein: While updating, I get something like not all packages updated. I scroll and find initramfs being mentioned in errors. I usually see a generating image x.x.x.x-generic failing.
[01:52] <ubuntu22> holstein, what about audacious / vlc / totem
[01:52] <dr_willis> what do you mean user_ ?
[01:52] <korsakof> to boot in text mode, you need to use the single user mode..
[01:52] <korsakof> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/grub-boot-into-single-user-mode/
[01:52] <user_> it looks like mine is little bit screwed and during the login it takes some time to initialize xfce
[01:53] <dr_willis> Err. there is a TEXT mode.. then theres a single user mode..  single user mode is a special text mode
[01:53] <dr_willis> text mode = dosent  start the lightdm  service. and a few other little differances.  single user mode =  like a recovery shell
[01:53] <holstein> ksbalaji: when you say "i get something like".. share *exactly* what message you get.. and try upgrading via the terminal as i suggested.. sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:54] <zentwin> dr_willis: I mean without any Desktop like GNOME
[01:54] <user_> dr_willis, during the login i have a blinking of the gui, it takes some time to initialize xfce
[01:54] <dr_willis> user_:  look in your .config/autorun (or was it autostart)  directory and the /etc/xdg/autostart directory
[01:54] <holstein> ksbalaji: dist-upgrade just updates your packages.. its not a distribution upgrade
[01:54] <holstein> ubuntu22: try installing pavucontrol ..look in alsamixer and trust no lables.. try..
[01:54] <dr_willis> zentwin:  that would be text mode.
[01:54] <dr_willis> !text
[01:54] <holstein> !audio
[01:54] <user_> zentwin, google grub cyberciti, vivek have some great tutorials there
[01:55] <ksbalaji> holstein: I note to report on seeing the error message again. OH? I shall do dist-upgrade now.
[01:55] <holstein> ksbalaji: thats what i suggested, again
[01:56] <holstein> ksbalaji: that *is* an update proceedure that will either give you an error, or upgrade around whatever it is you are talking about
[01:56] <user_> dr_willis, ok it was autostart
[01:56] <zentwin> dr_willis: I want to boot up with run level 1 to be precise.  Do you know how to do that
[01:57] <user_> dr_jesus, session tab, but i dont know in which order or what should start by default for xubuntu
[01:58] <jrib> zentwin: why do you think you want to boot up to run level 1?
[01:58] <user_> zentwin, you mean init? im afrain only system can do that
[01:58] <histo> zentwin: from the grub menu recovery mode
[01:58] <zentwin> histo: How
[01:59] <user_> zentwin, during the startup - if you have a grub installed
[01:59] <histo> zentwin: hold the shift key down prior to ubuntu loading to get the grub menu.
[01:59] <jrib> zentwin: what do you want to do once you get to run level 1?
[01:59] <dr_willis> !runlevel
[01:59] <zentwin> jrib: Rescue my work because I cannot get into GNOME, I get bluescreen
[02:00] <user_> jrib, i guess he doesent have the pass and wants to access it anyway....
[02:00] <dr_willis> im not evevn sure how runlevel 1 differs  :)
[02:00] <histo> dr_willis: single user
[02:00] <dr_willis> but ubuntu dosent really use runleveles  like other disrtos do
[02:00] <dr_willis> histo:  that would be what the recovery console uses then isent it?
[02:00] <user_> anyway guys
[02:00] <histo> dr_willis: yes single user mode
[02:00] <user_> can you help my with my xface thing?
[02:01] <histo> dr_willis: ofcourse it uses runlevels
[02:01] <user_> is here anybody who is using xubuntu?
[02:01] <user_> I'm interested about the default session startup
[02:01] <dr_willis> i thought the runlevels were sort of faked by upstart
[02:01] <ksbalaji> holstein: http://pastebin.com/ZbzyjE3R -This is exactly what I was talking about! I waited quite long to get this finished. Can this be repaired please?
[02:01] <histo> user_: what are you trying to accomplish with xubuntu?
[02:02] <user_> histo, I already acomplished and its running fine :)
[02:02] <zentwin> ctrl+alt+1 thru 6 didn't do squat just a black screen.
[02:02] <histo> user_: then what's your question your xfce one?
[02:02] <user_> histo, but unfortunetly i screwed the default startup sequence
[02:02] <dr_willis> zentwin:  seen some video card drivers have issues with that. and somtomes the framebuffer can cause issues with the consoles
[02:03] <histo> dr_willis: well in  sense. upstart doesn't know about runlevels but supports them
[02:03] <user_> histo, so every time i login, it takes some time to initialize the gui- much longer then before i screwed it....
[02:03] <zentwin> dr_willis: How do I get around that, by using run level 1 or what
[02:04] <user_> histo, its somehow switching the sessions between xface and xubuntu session
[02:04] <dr_willis> zentwin:  i belive the gist of  the thread in the channel was that  the 'recovery' menu item in grub. boots to the reccovery console. which is using runlevel 1. but then starts up the recovery 'menu' item
[02:04] <dr_willis> zentwin:  so why do you  need runlevel 1?
[02:04] <i-make-robots> hi, ubuntu.  Where would I go to ask about automating a workflow process that crosses over from php into a bash script and back?
[02:05] <dougWill> I'm using virtualbox but the performance is bad an idea
[02:05] <i-make-robots> I have people uploading STL files, I want to run a calculation on them and email back a response.
[02:05] <zentwin> dr_willis: As long as I can get to any console, thanx
[02:05] <i-make-robots> the response should be stored in a database for retreival when they click a link.
[02:05] <dr_willis> zentwin:  texxt mode or the recovery mode get to the consoles.
[02:05] <histo> user_: do you mean xfce? not xface rigth?
[02:05] <zentwin> Yeah
[02:05] <histo> user_: have you tested that the problem doesn't happen with a new user?
[02:05] <dr_willis> dougWill:  i tend to use lubuntu in vbox. its lighter
[02:05] <user_> histo, yes, sorry its little bit late here (gmt+1)
[02:06] <histo> user_: have you tested that the problem doesn't happen with a new user?
[02:06] <holstein> ksbalaji: i would remove the nvidia driver.. did you add any ppas?
[02:07] <user_> histo, actually i don't great idea! But in other hand i completly refreshed my user, removed the user settings.
[02:07] <user_> histo, but i will definitely try your suggestion and will let you know thx for a hint
[02:08] <histo> user_: you may have missed some user config files the hidden ones in your ~/.hidden   they start with .
[02:08] <ksbalaji> holstein: :( I do not know I have a nvidia driver! Sorry. What is ppas?
[02:09] <ksbalaji> holstein: While opting for some apps, I used to click ok to install them. May be that added ppas ? Am I catching on?
[02:10] <holstein> ksbalaji: you have something nvidia installed
[02:10] <holstein> !ppa
[02:10] <user_> histo, I'm not so lame, even if it looks like so, I'm working as a unix/linux support but as you know no gui on the servers  :)
[02:10] <holstein> ksbalaji: i would look at my sources and see if i have any ppa's
[02:10] <Keres> i just installed another OS, but when i re-install grub i get no OS choice menu
[02:10] <Keres> it just boots to ubuntu
[02:10] <holstein> ksbalaji: can this be fixed? sure.. you just have to determine what "it" is.. and start cleaning up and troubleshooting those errors
[02:11] <histo> user_: Didn't say you were just offering suggestions. when you "switched" from xubuntu-desktop to xfce what did you do?
[02:12] <Keres> how do you set up grub to give you a choice in which OS to boot?
[02:12] <ksbalaji> holstein: ok. I see a launchpad ppa in the source.
[02:12] <holstein> !grub | Keres
[02:12] <dr_willis> Keres:  what other os?
[02:12] <user_> histo, no prob :) just trying to replicate the issue on the new account, brb
[02:12] <holstein> ksbalaji: thats one extra source that could be causing breakage.. im not saying it is.. jsut that it could be
[02:13] <Keres> i dont have to recover anything, i can just use the boot menu since they are on 2 physically different disks... and it's win732 for buzz
[02:13] <dr_willis> Keres:  theres a option to hide the grub menu in the /etc/default/grub file
[02:13] <dr_willis> Keres:  if you boot to ubuntu and rerun 'update-grub' it should see and add the windows entry  to the menu
[02:14] <Keres> i wouldnt need hardware win32 if wine had dotnet4.0 but you guys prolly know that
[02:14] <ksbalaji> holstein: Thanks. I shall remove that and see. Now how to remove this nvidia thing please?
[02:14] <Keres> sudo update-grub?
[02:14] <dr_willis> Keres:  yes. the grub docs mention this and other options.   it should list the windows partions if they are seen in its output
[02:15] <holstein> ksbalaji: just define what "nividia thing" is installed
[02:15] <histo> user_: well if you thoroughly cleansed ~ new account won't help
[02:15] <dr_willis> as for the wind .net stuff.. check in #winehq and check out 'winetricks'
[02:15] <holstein> ksbalaji: i would search a package manager for anything that is giving errors in that list and try removing it
[02:15] <Keres> yeah, some music apps just dont like wine
[02:15] <holstein> ksbalaji: i would also consider just backing up my data, and reinstalling
[02:15] <Keres> the guys who make buzz are windows freaks
[02:16] <dr_willis> no  idea what 'buzz' is...
[02:16] <Keres> not to worry tho, ubuntu has something now called Sunvox ;)
[02:16] <holstein> ksbalaji: takes me about 20 minutes to reinstall and get back where i am.. we have wasted more time than that just trying to understand each other
[02:16] <Keres> music trackers
[02:16] <Keres> which are like real insturments in a way... you get really used to them and you have to have exactly that when you are typing
[02:16] <Keres> like when i was a kid it had to be octamed,
[02:18] <savagecroc> hey anyone have any details on this qilin OS... i thought originally it was basically some SELinux type version of FreeBSD... is that what it's going to be replacing?
[02:18] <user_> histo, Ok, im back and the configs are completly same
[02:19] <holstein> Keres: you can try #opensourcemusicians
[02:19] <holstein> Keres: you can try ubuntustudio live.. i would try some native solutions
[02:19] <user_> funny thing is that the new user profile is loggingin much faster and there is a minor difference in the configs, i mean few crons and nas mount
[02:20] <Keres> like i said, its like a particular instrument, once you get used to it you can actually "play" it
[02:20] <escott> user_ check gnome-session-properties
[02:21] <Keres> im not here to debate that there are some awesome apps for ubuntu now
[02:21] <Keres> there definitely are
[02:21] <Keres> its just that... you know old tracks and stuff
[02:21] <Keres> i will delete the partition after the music fest
[02:21] <Keres> dont worry ;)
[02:21] <holstein> Keres: this is not the channel for that..
[02:22] <histo> user: well cronjobs and nas mounts wouldn't slow a user down. They should not be handled int he GUI.... how are you mounting the nas drive via ffstab?
[02:22] <Keres> ok then, where to i get a copy of ubuntu for a cortex A8 1.2Gh tablet?
[02:23] <dr_willis> !arm
[02:23] <Dylan> hi all, I have a pretty basic terminal question - is this a good place to ask for help?
[02:23] <ksbalaji> holstein: I understand your point. Here is mine: You are helpful. It is worth my time. Sorry it also wasted yours.
[02:23] <somsip> Dylan: go for it
[02:23] <histo> !ask | Dylan
[02:25] <Dylan> great, thank you! limited ubuntu / linux experience. trying to install lazylibrarian through terminal. have no issues what so ever until i try to sudo service lazylibrarian start. always gives me error: "start-stop-deamon: unable to chdir() to lazy/ (No such file or directory)
[02:25] <holstein> ksbalaji: i volunteer my time.. you are not wasting it.. im just suggesting a potential path of least resistance
[02:26] <holstein> Keres: i download from the ubuntu site ...http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[02:27] <somsip> Dylan: have you followed the ubuntu specific instruction in the README?
[02:28] <dr_willis> dylan seems it wants a directory called  'lazy' somwhere. ;)
[02:28] <Keres> holstein, i dont see an image for that architecture
[02:28] <holstein> Keres: sure.. just help define what "that" is, and i'll search it for you
[02:28] <Keres> Cortex A8 1.2 Ghz with 512 ram
[02:29] <Keres> ARM i think right?
[02:29] <Dylan> somsip yes, followed instructions carefully. didn't seem to have any issues until this last part. dr_willis lazy is the directory that i created where I placed the contents of the lazylibrarian zip file i downloaded from github
[02:29] <Keres> 5 point touchscreen and HDMI
[02:29] <Keres> problem is that the android OS is terrible
[02:29] <Keres> unusable
[02:29] <dr_willis> dylan there may  be a config file youneed to  edit and tell it where to  look for that directtory
[02:30] <somsip> Dylan: that's where I was going - I'd expect there to be a path to lazy/ somwhere in one of the config scripts.
[02:30] <dr_willis> Keres:  ubuntu on tablets is in a very early stage..  and may  not be very useable.
[02:30] <ksbalaji> holstein: Thanks. ok - Now with your help, I have deleted some apps which have something to do with nvidia. I also found that I do not have nvidia hw installed. This shall do for the day. Thanks again and bye!
[02:30] <holstein> Keres: i dont have one.. i'll search if you need. do you need me to search that device and see if its an arm chip? there are arm iso's ..
[02:30] <holstein> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/arm
[02:30] <duckx0r> I'm trying to get a list of the number of entries in the `changes_cc` table by each user. However for some reason it's returning "1" for each user that has 0 entries. How can I make it so that it is "0"? http://pastie.org/private/d3odrdfvvaciq3eadiwhw
[02:30] <dr_willis> I like androd on my Nexus7 ;)
[02:30] <holstein> ksbalaji: good luck!
[02:30] <Keres> an ISO would be cool, but without all the working drivers...
[02:31] <Kow> why does quassel-client require KDE libs? it should only require QT :-/
[02:32] <Dylan> dr_willis / somsip i edited the config file using sudo editor /etc/default/lazylibrarian. in that file I changed: "# [required] set path where lazylibrarian is installed: APP_PATH=lazy/"
[02:32] <dr_willis> dylan i a,m guessing you are not using the proper path.
[02:33] <dr_willis> dylan use the full path to the diretory
[02:33] <somsip> Dylan: the path looks strange. I would expect it to be something like '/home/dylan/lazy' or /usr/opt/lazy
[02:33] <Keres> thanks guys!
[02:33] <holstein> Keres: you want what drivers?
[02:33] <Keres> well, HDMI is key
[02:33] <Keres> thats what i use that tablet for
[02:34] <holstein> Keres: the kernel is modular, so most drivers are there.. i dont mess with the arm version personally
[02:34] <Keres> its not a big deal
[02:34] <holstein> !tablet | Keres
[02:34] <holstein> Keres: whats not?
[02:34] <Keres> its just that the android that it came with is really bad
[02:34] <holstein> Keres: i might have missed something in the scroll back
[02:34] <Dylan> dr_willis somsip the lazy folder is in my home directory. just tried changing it to /home/lazy/ but that didn't help either. is there a longer "full" path name that I can use/
[02:34] <Keres> the app that i want to run is called sunvox, there are android and linux versions
[02:35] <dr_willis> Keres:  you  may have better luck finding an alterantive android rom for the thing.
[02:35] <Keres> the android version runs but needs more CPU overhead
[02:35] <Keres> yeah i think so
[02:35] <Dylan> now the error message is the same, but it says unable to chdir() to /home/lazy/
[02:35] <holstein> Keres: sounds great.. try an android channel if you are having issues on that side
[02:35] <dr_willis> dylan you dont seem to undersstand linux paths... /home/lazy would be the user 'lazy' home directory
[02:35] <Keres> yeah but it would be much better if i could also have audacity and chibitracker
[02:35] <Keres> not complainin...
[02:35] <Keres> just sayin
[02:35] <somsip> Dylan: Is that where it's installed? Maybe,,,maybe I'll stop saying what dr_willis has already said ;)
[02:35] <dr_willis> dylan if the dir is in your USERS home the path would be /home/YOURUSERNAME/lazy
[02:35] <Keres> ok guys thanks again
[02:36] <dr_willis> dylan it may be worth the time to read a few bash beginner guides to understandd the path nameing system.
[02:37] <Dylan> welp, dr_willis and somsip, you guys solved it! i needed to update the full path. when I included /home/username/lazy it started with no issues. really appreciate your help. I'm going to read some more basic terminal info to learn from this!
[02:37] <Dylan> thanks so much for both of your help.
[02:37] <somsip> Dylan: no worries
[02:38] <Guest4770> Hello, I've had weird problems with package installation lately
[02:38] <Guest4770> I had to reverse to an old version of tzdata to install eclipse
[02:38] <Guest4770> and was never able to install libsdl
[02:38] <Guest4770> i tought 12.04 was stable
[02:39] <somsip> Guest4770: how did you install eclipse?
[02:39] <Guest4770> i used aptitude
[02:39] <holstein> !12.04
[02:39] <Guest4770> and it reversed tzdata package to an older version
[02:39] <somsip> !aptitude
[02:39] <somsip> Guest4770: so that *could* be it
[02:39] <Guest4770> well
[02:39] <Guest4770> apt -get was just saying no
[02:40] <dr_willis> Hmm. i cant imagine why  it would use an older tzdata package
[02:40] <dr_willis> !info eclipse
[02:40] <Guest4770> is there a way i can clean everything apt related and restart from a clean package list then. (without aptitude)
[02:41] <dr_willis> you are on a 32bit of 64bit insstall Guest4770 ?
[02:41] <korsakof> !info ubottu
[02:41] <Guest4770> 64 bit
[02:42] <Guest4770> i've never had problems like these on ubuntu before
[02:42] <Guest4770> or fedora
[02:42] <OptimizedCoder> guys, when I use rdp to connect to my ubuntu machine, I spawn an X session (thats new), I guess by default ubuntu uses lightDM (coz I can see LightDM running underneath), correct?
[02:42] <dirte> anyone have recommendations for a good php editor on ubuntu? I've been trying Bluefish but it's like php is an afterthought
[02:42] <SonikkuAmerica> OptimizedCoder: unless you're using Lubuntu, which uses lxdm
[02:42] <SonikkuAmerica> or Openbox
[02:42] <Guest4770> oh, I am using Xubuntu, does it make any difference?
[02:42] <somsip> dirte: netbeans here for a few years
[02:42] <OptimizedCoder> SonikkuAmerica, hmm - whats the defualt for ubuntu gdm ?
[02:43] <OptimizedCoder> or unity
[02:43] <OptimizedCoder> ?
[02:43] <OptimizedCoder> I'm on 11.10
[02:43] <dr_willis> Lightdm is the default login manager.. Unity  is the default desktop
[02:43] <SonikkuAmerica> OptimizedCoder: In U/Ku/Xu/Edu/Mythbuntu, it's lighdm
[02:43] <SonikkuAmerica> *lightdm
[02:43] <OptimizedCoder> dr_willis, got it..
[02:44] <SonikkuAmerica> OptimizedCoder: Ubuntu GNOME uses gdm
[02:44] <OptimizedCoder> so, my question is this
[02:44] <dirte> i'm installing netbeans thanks somsip
[02:45] <OptimizedCoder> I RDP, spawn a new X sesssion and everythign looks good - but my right-click does not work there
[02:45] <somsip> dirte: it's not the lightest out there, so it's worth trying others
[02:45] <OptimizedCoder> Maybe I should look at the Xsession logs.. ?
[02:45] <OptimizedCoder> is it the  .xsession-errors ?
[02:45] <somsip> dirte: and last I looked the repo version was stuck at about 6.9 but it's at 7.3 now. OT
[02:46]  * OptimizedCoder thought NetBeans was long dead
[02:47] <somsip> OptimizedCoder: new version a week or so ago would disagree. OT
[02:47] <OptimizedCoder> somsip, yeah I just moved on
[02:48] <OptimizedCoder> somsip, the swing/UI support for Java was good in Netbeans though
[02:49] <ubulove> I have a desktop pc 4 years old with 1GB of ram DDR2. What do you suggest ? Installing Lubuntu and stay with 1GB of ram or buy more DDR2 ram ? If available still in stock.
[02:49] <OptimizedCoder> SonikkuAmerica, dr_willis, guys any answer to X related query?
[02:49] <tigrang> When I enabled "Use system title bar and borders" in chrome, after I maximize once then restore, the window borders and window action (close, minimize, maximize) dont work any longer, they click through to the window behind them
[02:49] <dr_willis> OptimizedCoder:  i dont really use rdp so no idea why it would act that way
[02:49] <OptimizedCoder> ubulove, got to fleabay, you cna get good deals on old/used DDR2 RAM
[02:50] <OptimizedCoder> on the cheap
[02:50] <SonikkuAmerica> OptimizedCoder: It's Xorg.#.log, but I forgot its location... dr_willis?
[02:50] <dr_willis>  /var/log/ would be most all the logs
[02:50]  * OptimizedCoder wonders if there is an X server channel on FreeNode
[02:50] <dr_willis> or in the users home
[02:50] <ubulove> OptimizedCoder: thanks man, but if I choose to stay with 1GB of ram because it's an old PC will I be OK with Lubuntu ?
[02:50] <dr_willis> lubuntu works well on low end systems
[02:50] <PaulCollin> >ubulove< i have ddr2 rams, i can send them from international post.
[02:51] <ubulove> PaulCollin: hehe thanks but I will see :P
[02:52] <somsip> ubulove: I use lubuntu under virtualbox with less ram and it seems fine.
[02:52] <OptimizedCoder> ubulove, I guess you should be good with Lubuntu, but I'd look at other stripped-down distros
[02:52] <PaulCollin> >ubulove< but i think if you install lubuntu, you dont need them. :) i think its enaugh
[02:52] <SonikkuAmerica> ubulove: I dunno, what does Xubuntu say you need?
[02:52] <learnLinx> Using 12.04  sound is really screwed up..  Headphones on speaker gives sound, speakers on, no sound unless I plug in headphones.  Unplug headphones when done and sound comes out of the speakers with the headphones showing in the settings..  It seems backwards
[02:53] <ubulove> wooowww, thank you all for your replies!!!
[02:53] <learnLinx> AND,  sound is not really that good/
[02:53] <OptimizedCoder> interestingly I have this /var/log/xrdp-sesman.log
[02:54] <SonikkuAmerica> learnLinx: Sounds like you're having issues with the new PulseAudio.
[02:54] <ubulove> PaulCollin, I will use it with 1GB ram and see. Thank you :)
[02:54] <learnLinx> How to fix it3
[02:54] <ubulove> OptimizedCoder, I just love ubuntu :D
[02:54] <OptimizedCoder> ubulove, if not apparent from that handle...
[02:55] <ubulove> SonikkuAmerica: I like Lubuntu than Xubuntu :D Less resources.
[02:55] <learnLinx> I have beats audio and the sound really isnt great in linux. Windows its REALLY Awsome.. anything I can do to help it along
[02:55] <ubulove> somsip, alright :D goooood then !
[02:55] <OptimizedCoder> beats audio.. all your credibility is tossed out the window at this point ..
[02:55] <OptimizedCoder> :D
[02:55] <SonikkuAmerica> learnLinx: Try [ sudo apt-get install pavucontrol ] in terminal, then start it by typing [ pavucontrol ] and just messing with the volume in there
[02:56] <learnLinx> THX
[02:56] <SonikkuAmerica> ubulove: I haz no choice... I use Studio (which comes with stock XFCE)
[02:57] <ubulove> SonikkuAmerica: hehehe okay! :D
[02:57] <OptimizedCoder> hmm - no errors from the xrdp session log, I might need to look at the X sessions' log
[02:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Beats me why Studio couldn't migrate to MATE
[02:57] <SonikkuAmerica> But XFCE rocks all the same.
[02:57] <holstein> SonikkuAmerica: its not in the repos
[02:58] <SonikkuAmerica> holstein: True... :\
[02:58] <holstein> SonikkuAmerica: we chose xfce because it was the most like the older gnome2 look/feel.. and the most stable, and the xubuntu team is *very* helpful
[02:58] <holstein> SonikkuAmerica: you can use our packages with the DE of your choice...
[02:58] <SonikkuAmerica> Not that I had qualms against XFCE of course.
[02:59] <SonikkuAmerica> holstein: And yes, you're probably right, not to mention they're making the slowest transition to GTK+ 3 (for fluency)
[03:00] <dirte> hey somsip in netbeans i go to create a new project and it just has java types available no php, do I have to add any php modules or something?
[03:00] <SonikkuAmerica> and the xubuntu team is *very* helpful <<< Yes, especially Pasi Lallinaho
[03:01] <learnLinx> been through all the sound settings and still only get the 2 front speakers.. there is 4
[03:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Four speakers, you say? The next thing to do is run [ alsamixer ] and see if that works instead.
[03:04] <learnLinx> K Ill install it
[03:04] <somsip> dirte: you need to install the PHP plugins, or you can download the .sh that just installs PHP without the Java stuff. Depends on how you will use the IDE
[03:04] <Guest4770> okay guys, I've fixed it by resetting my sources.list manually
[03:05] <Guest4770> it seems it got corrupted when i deactivated the restricted repo
[03:05] <learnLinx> So... should I remove pulse audio or keep both pulse and alsa??
[03:05] <raj> how do I get apt-cache search to show me if a package is installed?
[03:05] <dirte> thx i'm reading more on the netbeans site now
[03:06] <SonikkuAmerica> learnLinx: all you have to do is switch it: http://howto.blbosti.com/2010/04/ubuntu-make-alsa-default-instead-of-pulseaudio/
[03:06] <boston62> if your running Ubuntu 12.04 on a server, can you use the dvd drive on the PC connecting to the server? Thanks
[03:06] <SonikkuAmerica> (Ignore the part about gnome-desktop, but if it removes ubuntu-desktop, don't worry, it's "just a dummy package"
[03:06] <SonikkuAmerica> )
[03:06] <holstein> also, try pavucontrol learnLinx
[03:06] <learnLinx> SonikkuAmerica Thanks for the help
[03:07] <learnLinx> holstein  thx also
[03:07] <SonikkuAmerica> I told him that holstein. It only works for his 2 front speakers.
[03:07] <SonikkuAmerica> Quoting: <learnLinx> been through all the sound settings and still only get the 2 front speakers.. there is 4
[03:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Aw crap... I was about to direct him to a better link... :\
[03:10] <raj> how do I get apt-cache search to show me if a package is installed?
[03:12] <drkphoenix> my computer says (initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file syste. When i try to book it it is an inspiron  intel core i5
[03:13] <Ponch0> woah i5 fancy pants
[03:13] <SonikkuAmerica> drkphoenix, can you explain what you mean by "book it"?
[03:13] <Ponch0> he probably means boot
[03:13] <drkphoenix> boot it sorry spelled it wrong.
[03:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh. Well, let's go through the standard checklist?
[03:14] <SonikkuAmerica> *:
[03:14] <drkphoenix> ok
[03:14] <escott> drkphoenix, did it ever work? any recent updates or changes?
[03:15] <love_> raj: I think apt-cache is not quite what you want to use.  it seems like apt-cache is more for checking dependencies.  you can use aptitude to find out what is installed.... synaptic is a nice GUI and has a really easy way to check.
[03:15] <drkphoenix> yes it did work. I recently had to whip my computer because of issues and so i tried to reinstall it with the same disk i installed it with before. Now that error is coming up
[03:15] <drkphoenix> wipe*
[03:16] <somsip> drkphoenix: 'whip' created a more evocative image...
[03:16] <drkphoenix> wipe*
[03:16] <escott> drkphoenix, if you boot the livecd and download the boot-info-script from sourceforge and run that it will probably tell us enough to figure out what is going on
[03:17] <SonikkuAmerica> somsip: I know right? (drkphoenix, you don't need to repeat yourself)
[03:17] <SonikkuAmerica> somsip: But hey, give him a break... autocorrect gets in the way sometimes :P
[03:17] <drkphoenix> how do i download the boot-info-script from sourceforge
[03:18] <escott> drkphoenix, http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/
[03:19] <drkphoenix> i can not get to my desk top to download it
[03:20] <escott> drkphoenix, livecd
[03:21] <chro> I deleted a file by mistake with the rm command, how can I recover it?
[03:21] <escott> chro, you probably cant
[03:21] <escott> !undelete | chro
[03:21] <chro> ok
[03:22] <drkphoenix> yes well then if it is suppose to be on the live disk it is not on this one
[03:22] <zltan> hello, I recently encountered slow wireless connections, and the culprit seemed to be the dhcpcd.
[03:22] <escott> drkphoenix, no it is not on the livecd thats why you need to download it
[03:23] <drkphoenix> i can not download it to the disk it wont let me download anything else to the disk
[03:24] <zltan> i identified a while back that the MTU value for wlan0 has always been 576, which is unreasonable.
[03:25] <zltan> has anyone ever experienced a similar issue?
[03:26] <escott> drkphoenix, you should be able to download it to the desktop and run it from there
[03:27] <drkphoenix> i can not get to the desktop to do it not on my computer i am not talking to you from my computer
[03:27] <dirte> my wireless was acting weird today had to reboot and fixed it
[03:28] <amigamia> hi trying to install the locale language on a 10.04 server sudo apt-get install language-pack-en however its not locating it
[03:28] <escott> drkphoenix, you wont be able to do anything until you boot your install media/livecd
[03:29] <drkphoenix> i have the liveCD i have one already installed on to a disk
[03:30] <drkphoenix> when i try to install it from the disk it comes up with the error but i can not get to the computers desk top so therefore i can not download boot info script i can not download it on the live disk or the desktop
[03:30] <bmorriso> Is there an Ultrabook that supports dual displays?  And obviously amazing support for Ubuntu? Like the XPS 13?
[03:33] <escott> drkphoenix, if you are having trouble booting the livecd you need to give specifics
[03:35] <drkphoenix> i did when i first came in here i do apologize since i was informed not to repeat myself when i boot it up it says busybox v1.13.3 built-in shell (ash ) unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[03:35] <dr_willis> bmorriso:  i  thought system76 sold a ubuntu ultrabook
[03:36] <amigamia> something wrong with pastebin.ca?
[03:36] <amigamia> is there another pastebin?
[03:36] <dr_willis> pastebin.org perhaps
[03:36] <dr_willis> !pastebin
[03:37] <amigamia> can someone look at this? i just bought a vps for something i needed to test out http://pastebin.fr/26804
[03:37] <amigamia> dr_willis i went francias :D
[03:38] <dr_willis> you might want to summarize the issue a bit more for the channel.
[03:38] <escott> drkphoenix, yes you are in the initramfs. if you knew what you were doing you could maybe figure out how to fix things from there, but you don't because most people dont. so boot your install media and select try ubuntu. download the boot-info-script and run it for us
[03:38] <amigamia> as my earlier post i cant do my locale
[03:38] <dirte> somsip: i'm loving netbeans :) thanks, gnight
[03:39] <bmorriso> dr_willis: 14", 4.5lb, with 720p display. Would like 13", 3lb or less and better display.
[03:39] <drkphoenix> how am i suppose to download the boot-info-script if i cant download it on a disk or on the computer thats having problems
[03:39] <jaydubs> hello, i could use some help dl'ing a package. if i try libdb4.8-dev with apt-get its says it cant locate the package. so i try to download it here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/libdb4.8-dev, but it suggests package manner. do i have to enable something for apt to see it? -thanks
[03:39] <dr_willis> bmorriso:  i havent looked at laptops in ages.. and dont plan on buying one  any time soon.
[03:39] <amigamia> i am using sudo apt-get install language-pack-en-base
[03:40] <dr_willis> jaydubs:  you do have the src repos enabled?
[03:40] <dr_willis> !find libdb4.8-dev
[03:40] <dr_willis> !find libdb4.8
[03:40] <escott> drkphoenix, boot the install media. there really isnt anything else i can say
[03:41] <amigamia> then doctor willis i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[03:41] <jaydubs> dr_willis: libdb4o8.0-cil?
[03:41] <drkphoenix> i do and no matter what i pick or click on after i boot the live disk it goes to that problem
[03:41] <somsip> dirte: cool
[03:41] <dr_willis> jaydubs:  thats what the bot found..
[03:41] <amigamia> dr_willis i get cat: /etc/default/locale: No such file or directory
[03:42] <jaydubs> sorry. i am unfamiliar with the "bot"
[03:42] <dr_willis> all i know about locale would be from the !locale factoid.. i dont use the feature
[03:42] <dr_willis> !locale
[03:42] <dr_willis> !bot
[03:42] <jaydubs> didnt like
[03:42] <jaydubs> archlinux invent that or something
[03:42] <histo> jaydubs: invent what?
[03:43] <dr_willis> be a bit more verbose in your infomation and comments  :) it helps
[03:43] <chicognu> i wrote my password in a .txt, but guess what ? i forgot where the .txt is... how do i found it ?
[03:44] <amigamia> I fixed it Herr Doktor :D
[03:44] <histo> chicognu: do you know what hte password is?
[03:44] <tigrang> If I maximize a window then restore it, I can no longer Close/Maximize/Minimize it with the window actions in the top left.
[03:44] <chicognu> histo, I don't know what is hte, but i know a part of the txt
[03:44] <ammini> locate
[03:45] <histo> s/hte/the/
[03:45] <histo> chicognu: find . -iname 'partyouknow' -type f -print 0
[03:46] <drkphoenix> does anyone know how to fix this problem without boot info script since i can not use it
[03:46] <histo> chicognu: assuming you know part of the file name.
[03:46] <histo> chicognu: if you know part of it's contents you could use grep to find it
[03:46] <jaydubs> noted. so im better off downloading the bot's suggestioin then trying to enable "sources" ? im on ec2 right now and the sources.list says add to sources.list.d - but there is no file in there
[03:46] <chicognu> histo, i know part of the text inside the file
[03:46] <chicognu> histo, how i do it ?
[03:47] <somsip> grep -ir 'partialpassword' .
[03:47] <chicognu> with out anything else ?
[03:47] <chicognu> Someguy123,
[03:47] <chicognu> somsip,
[03:47] <dr_willis> jaydubs:  the sources.list file is for the standard ubuntu repos. theres 'src' repos that are commendted out by default for many of the developer/source code packages. since most people dont need them
[03:48] <dr_willis> jaydubs:  sources.list.d/ is a directory where your PPA information file sare stored
[03:48] <histo> chicognu: grep -l -i "partialpassword" .
[03:48] <somsip> chicognu: if you are in your home dir, type that command
[03:48] <somsip> chicognu: assuming you saved the file somewhere in your home
[03:48] <chicognu> somsip, somewhere in the home and sub dir ?
[03:49] <somsip> chicognu: yes
[03:49] <escott> chicognu, grepping everything can be slow. if you know it was a *.txt you can --include="*.txt"
[03:49] <chicognu> cool
[03:50] <somsip> escott: good point
[03:50] <chicognu> grep -ir 'mypass' --include="*.txt"
[03:50] <chicognu> this way ?
[03:51] <jaydubs> dr_willis: alright so in order to get the package i first asked about i need to uncomment something in source.list?
[03:51] <somsip> chicognu: . at the end (full stop, period)
[03:51] <escott> chicognu, it will still want a "." at the very end (and sometimes you have to flip things around maybe the --include needs to come first)
[03:51] <dr_willis> jaydubs:  whats the exact package name you are interestgged in?
[03:51] <histo> chicognu: grep --include="*.txt" -irl "somepassword" .
[03:51] <jaydubs> i just saw this: deb http://ubuntu.mirror.cambrium.nl/ubuntu/ lucid main
[03:52] <jaydubs> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/amd64/libdb4.8-dev/download
[03:52] <chicognu> i really need to learn bash script
[03:52] <escott> well thats not bash... thats just grep
[03:52] <dr_willis> jaydubs:  a 'apt-cache search libdb' should show package names
[03:52] <fuleo> trying to do mounting... sudo mount -t smbfs //mynetworklocation/ /mnt/networkstuff
[03:52] <chicognu> escott, and that period at the and ?
[03:52] <fuleo> but am getting unknown filesystem type error
[03:53] <escott> chicognu, is the current working directory (to tell grep where to start searching from)
[03:53] <chicognu> grep --include="*.txt" -irl "gato" .
[03:53] <dr_willis> !info libdb4.8-dev
[03:53] <histo> chicognu: will you please type the friggen command
[03:53] <fuleo> how do i tell what kind of fs the network path is... ?
[03:53] <amigamia> how do you turn off apache cause i am using tomcat6 for this project and i need these ports freed
[03:53] <dr_willis> !info lucid libdb4.8-dev
[03:53] <tigrang> If I maximize a window then restore it, I can no longer Close/Maximize/Minimize it with the window action. Double clicking the title bar does nothing. I have to do gtk-window-decorator --replace to get the functionality back.
[03:54] <histo> fuleo: I don't believe you can.
[03:54] <buck_> hello,anybody knows how can i replace a item in a text file globally?
[03:54] <dr_willis> !info libdb4.8-dev lucid
[03:54] <histo> fuleo: try cifs
[03:54] <histo> fuleo: smbfs is deprecated
[03:54] <dr_willis> buck_:  sed or awk are normally used for that sort of task
[03:55] <histo> buck_: whats the item that you want to replace?
[03:55] <jaydubs> dr_willis: yea i dont see it with that command- so my choices are to get the pkg the bot suggested, enable the repo that has it,  or download it manually.
[03:55] <jaydubs> what do you suggest
[03:55] <chicognu> histo, i did :D now i'm just waiting ...
[03:55] <chicognu> tks all
[03:55] <chicognu> :D
[03:55] <histo> chicognu: np
[03:55] <dr_willis> jaydubs:  you are using 'lucid' ? its in the MAIN repository. if you dont see that.. you got somthing very weird going on.
[03:56] <chicognu> grep --include="*.txt" -irl "gato" . is returning to much things :(
[03:56] <escott> chicognu, other things you could do
[03:57] <escott> chicognu, if the file only had the password its going to be very small. you could use find to find smaller files and then limit your grep to those files
[03:57] <histo> chicognu: it will include all txt files under the current path recursively with the word gato in it.
[03:58] <histo> buck_: sed -ie s/item/replace/g somefile.foo
[03:59] <EpicDuck> help
[04:00] <escott> histo, buck_ i think it needs to be sed -i -e 's/pattern/replacement/g' filename
[04:00] <EpicDuck> I am wanting to know what do i need to develop apps for ubuntu
[04:00] <chicognu> escott, how ? something like find *txt -n 100kb ?
[04:00] <EpicDuck> like develop apps for ubuntu on a windows machien
[04:00] <dr_willis> EpicDuck:  id suggest running ubuntu in  virtualbox
[04:00] <chicognu> escott, how ? something like find *txt -n 100kb | grep gato?
[04:00] <EpicDuck> how would i make apps for ubuntu though?
[04:00] <escott> chicognu, something like. find . -iname "*.txt" -n ???? -exec grep gato {} \;
[04:01] <dr_willis> EpicDuck:  using a programing language  that you know.
[04:01] <EpicDuck> I have visual basic 2010 but somebody with wine told me that the program don't run in wine
[04:01] <dr_willis> forget about visual basic.. learn a better language
[04:01] <dr_willis> Python is good to start with
[04:01] <GentSir> EpicDuck, Python is great for beginners
[04:01] <EpicDuck> Python that sh!t is old as dirt
[04:02] <IdleOne> !language | EpicDuck
[04:02] <dr_willis> EpicDuck:  as is C and C++... so your  point is?
[04:02] <GentSir> EpicDuck, BASIC is older
[04:02] <poee> Hi.  Freedom of Speech.
[04:02] <poee> .......
[04:02] <escott> poee, you have to disable "user" mounting since user implies "noexec"
[04:02] <dr_willis> EpicDuck:  no its not a right... behave or leave.
[04:03] <tigrang> don't fight it EpicDuck
[04:03] <poee> escott, how do I do that?
[04:03] <escott> !fstab | poee
[04:03] <EpicDuck> F*CK OFF dr_willis or i will ddos you. ;)
[04:03] <GentSir> EpicDuck, this may be a semi-public area, but freenode owns the servers. If they and the channel operators don't want cussing, just respect that.
[04:03] <dr_willis> EpicDuck:  time to grow up i think.
[04:03] <Physicist> how can I accept the upgrade or installation of some program without confirm every time? for example: (y or n) - I have to press y and ENTER.. I do not like it..
[04:03] <Darkenvy> I'm trying to enable multiple monitor on this gnome3 settup. but nvidia-settings doesnt let me
[04:04] <dr_willis> Physicist:  apt tools often have a -y option i belive
[04:04] <Physicist> dr_willis: So, I just put -y.. I will try!
[04:05] <dr_willis> Physicist:  check the man pages for whattever tool you are using.. Im pretty sure its -y  or --yes   but that can be a somewhat dangerouts option
[04:05] <tigrang> If I maximize a window then restore it, I can no longer Close/Maximize/Minimize it with the window action. Double clicking the title bar does nothing. I have to do gtk-window-decorator --replace to get the functionality back. Doesn't look like its a config file in my home dir, I created a new user and the same issue. I reinstalled all of unity/compiz same thing. What else can I do?
[04:06] <dr_willis> reinstalling stuff to 'fix' things - is a windows mind set.. sounds like gtk-window-decorator is crashing for ssome reason
[04:06] <Physicist> dr_willis: -y works perfectly.. I did not had to accept..
[04:07] <Physicist> dr_willis: Thank you.
[04:09] <andyz> hi buch
[04:09] <andyz> hi buck
[04:09] <andyz> 有人懂中文么
[04:10] <Physicist> I find the perfect O.S.for me.. Scientific Linux.. Awsome.. I am downloading.
[04:10] <Physicist> 4GB - OMG..
[04:11] <dr_willis> OMG Ponies? ;)
[04:11] <dr_willis> i doubt if theres much  it has that you cant install on a normal ubuntu install
[04:12] <buck_> there're lot of stuff you do not need.
[04:14] <andyz> How to replace a string in vi mode
[04:14] <escott> andyz, esc-colon s/regex/replace/g
[04:15] <dr_willis> Lovely - DigitalDuck seems to be tryng to DDOS my  VPS.  ....
[04:15] <escott> andyz, esc-colon N,Ms/regex/replace/g for between lines N and M
[04:15] <dr_willis> vi and grep would use almost the same syntax i think andyz
[04:15] <tigrang> dr_willis, is he succeeding?
[04:16] <Rogach> Hello! Is there a way list packages, that depend on certain package?
[04:16] <dr_willis> tigrang:  cant say that ive noticed much sucess other then faill2ban banning 20+ ips now..
[04:16] <tigrang> heh
[04:17] <dr_willis> such a handy tool.. highly reccomended
[04:17] <holstein> Rogach: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ lists that
[04:19] <Rogach> holstein: Where? I searched for a package, found it's page, but there are only the package dependencies.
[04:24] <Alysum> hello is there a way to foce and apt-get upgrade to use the local file in the case of a conflict
[04:25] <tigrang> dr_willis, well my logs aren't giving me much about what's going on. After I do gtk-window-decorator --replace, syslog has gtk-window-deco[3746]: segfault at 20 ip 00007f18c42ed415 sp 00007fffa2e44820 error 4 in libwnck-1.so.22.3.31. Dont really know what to do
[04:34] <audio> how do i reinstall the latest stable kernel? tried to update to 3.8.1 with 12.10, got stuck on the pw screen with nouveou errors.. so i purged the image to go back and having issues since
[04:34] <zmn1> hey guys
[04:35] <peawormsworth> i would like to try installing ubuntu from a minimal install. and then download all packages from there.
[04:35] <zmn1> i'm trying to figure out what type of file this file is
[04:35] <IdleOne> !minimal | peawormsworth
[04:35] <peawormsworth> I am curious if there is a particular ordering in which packages should be installed?
[04:35] <zmn1> when i do "file filename" all i get as a result is "file type: data"
[04:36] <audio> how do you remove a kernel you just installed..
[04:36] <zmn1> i'm not very good with hexdump or od -c...any suggestions on how to find out/read the content of it?
[04:37] <quick-> audio : rmmod <module name>
[04:37] <audio> ty, is that any different from sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.8.1*
[04:38] <audio> or the same thing?
[04:38] <peawormsworth> IdleOne: Im actual installing from "core" as seen here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily/current/  ... which i have not tried doing yet. So its not really a mini.iso with a text based interface. Instead I want to install by using chroot and manually calling apt-get from the terminal if possible.
[04:38] <quick-> As far as i know purge will delete the config files and all the data but rmmod will only remove the runnning kernel module from the kernel table
[04:38] <audio> cause i purged it, then reboot.. now i'm getting like sluggish usb mouse usage, and tears/rendering in the boot loading screen
[04:39] <quick-> audio : As far as i know purge will delete the config files and all the data but rmmod will only remove the runnning kernel module from the kernel table
[04:39] <audio> alright, thank you
[04:39] <IdleOne> peawormsworth: I have never done that either, not sure where you would start
[04:39] <quick-> audio: Cheers :)
[04:40] <peawormsworth> IdleOne: Im just going to try it... but my question remains: is the ordering of package installation an important consideration? Or just call apt-get install with all packages at once?
[04:40] <dr_willis> peawormsworth:  i seem to recall in the apt-get manuals that the order dosent matter
[04:40] <peawormsworth> great i will give this a try. thanks all.
[04:41] <dr_willis> peawormsworth:  assuming you are doing it all on one apt-get command line.. you can even install and remove packages from the same command
[04:43] <audio> dang, i guess purge removed mod too, don't see it in /proc/modules. how would i go about finding out why its runnins so sluggish all of a sudden using the 3.5 kern
[04:43] <peawormsworth> dr_willis: interesting... i didnt know that. thx
[04:44] <audio> cpu fans running on high, nothing being used looking in top or htop..
[04:44] <dr_willis> peawormsworth:  i havent rered the apt docs in ages.. so i may  be confused about some of the features. ;:)   i dident really  see where a lot of the adavanced features would be that handy for me.
[04:44] <audio> usb mouse running real laggy, but touchpad works with no lag.. doesn't make sense o.o
[04:45] <dr_willis> audio:  they always running high from the first boot? or does it happen after  the system is up for some time?
[04:45] <peawormsworth> dr_willis: yeah. seems dangerous maybe to add and purge packages at once while you can put both commands on on line with a semicolon between them.
[04:45] <audio> dr_willis both honestly.
[04:45] <dr_willis> audio:  i recall some X server/driver bugs that caused slowdowns afer a long uptime during my beta testing.. a restart of the X server would perk it back up to normal speeds. but that may not be the case for you
[04:46] <audio> dr_willis, i tried installing kernel 3.8.1 and it didn't work, so i purged the image and went back to 3.5.. and been sluggish since then.. been running about 20 minutes now
[04:46] <IdleOne> peawormsworth: it would only run the second command after the first completes
[04:46] <peawormsworth> dr_willis: also it seems apt-get does post package config one at  a time, so putting multiple packages on a single line only really seems to save typing... not processing speed.
[04:46] <dr_willis> peawormsworth:  i recall you  can do an apt-get install packagefoo  purge package2
[04:46] <audio> yea i rebooted a 2nd time to see if it would perk up, but working the same.. and lil things like if i load home or any folder, it will stay on loading icon until i hover over the titlebar
[04:46] <audio> then it loads right up
[04:46] <dr_willis> peawormsworth:  no need to do 2 commands.
[04:47] <audio> but neither of my cpus are doing more than 8%
[04:47] <peawormsworth> dr_willis: for exxample... ive seen apt-get call "update-initram" multiple times... from a single apt-get command. When really this only needs to be done one time if it waited until the end .
[04:48] <audio> is there a benchmark test or so to test the gpu card and the cpu's? to find out if it's hardware issues
[04:48] <peawormsworth> i think mining for bitcoin will test ur gpu... but not sure if it gives u wat ur looking for.
[04:49] <IdleOne> dr_willis: even so, it would run the install first before doing the purge.
[04:49] <dr_willis> i thought some of the benchmark web sites had a linxu  suite
[04:49] <audio> not sure, only been a linux user bout a month now..
[04:50] <audio> i would assume it would test the same as using win
[04:50] <dr_willis> I recall some blog postings a year or so ago where pcmark? or some other  big name benchmarking  software was now on linux
[04:50] <audio> ya pcmark was a big one
[04:50] <peawormsworth> audio: when my computer is slow... the first things i do is "df -h" to see if a disk is 98% full or more.
[04:50] <audio> i always just used the tests on nvidia website
[04:51] <peawormsworth> audio: then I check tail the logs to see if something is reporting errors like crazy.
[04:51] <audio> ell mines using 3%
[04:51] <dr_willis> dmesg may  show some issues causing slowdownms..
[04:51] <peawormsworth> audio: also i run "top" or better "htop" if u installed that. To check process is hogging memory... like u already did.
[04:51] <audio> yea ive been watching both .. i use htop
[04:51] <audio> and nothings hogging memory either
[04:52] <audio> every now and then xorg will jump up to 90%, but doesnt stay long.
[04:52] <Physicist> How can I change my APU? So tiny: 3500 with radeon 6620G - I want more.
[04:52] <audio> and i've never once seen swap move above 0 in any linux, so i assume my memory is fine
[04:52] <peawormsworth> audio: its kinda normal to see processes jump up and down.. that seems ok. I would definately check HD space.
[04:53] <Physicist> Oh.. AMD.. Oh.. AMD.. I love you, meantime, my hardware is sox!!
[04:53] <dr_willis> i cant say ive really noticed real full HD space cause slowdowns in linux. ;)
[04:53] <peawormsworth> audio: sometimes on a new install... u might accidentally set a partition to small.
[04:53] <audio> yeah. i have plenty of HD space.. i thought maybe it was corrupt so i tried my other HD, and same prob.. so i cant think of what else to look for
[04:53] <peawormsworth> dr_willis: if u run servers that are in use... you will see this occur when the log files fill up. I see it a lot. Also, if you do a lot of video... it can fill up easy.
[04:53] <audio> ya i have almost a tb in one hd empty, and like 280 out of 300 in this one
[04:54] <audio> so its def not space
[04:54] <dr_willis> audio:  try a difffernt desktop like Lubuntu -  and see if its also slow.
[04:54] <peawormsworth> dr_willis: it will effect computer speed.
[04:54] <audio> tried that too willis
[04:54] <audio> the only 2 that ive found that does this the least, is mint 14 kde and ubuntu 12.10
[04:54] <audio> would a faulty battery cause it to do that? even if plugged in
[04:54] <dr_willis> audio:  almost sounds like some kernel/driver issue
[04:55] <dr_willis> Hmm. got a CPU monitor going shoing the cpu speeds?
[04:55] <audio> cause once i took out the battery, left it plugged in and it seemed to stop the prob..
[04:55] <audio> no not atm, just re-installed
[04:55] <dr_willis> could be its throttling back the cpu  for some odd reason
[04:55] <audio> yea, is there a script or app on ubuntu to set cpu speeds
[04:55] <audio> or turn off some builtin throttle
[04:56] <dr_willis> theres some indicator-applets also  that let you  see the cpu speeds  on the top right icons..
[04:56] <dyan> thats only if you are using GNOME shell UI
[04:56] <audio> yea
[04:56] <audio> i havent seen them on unity
[04:56] <histo> audio: cpufreq-utils?  that stuff is all controlled by kernel now though.
[04:56] <audio> so far.
[04:56] <dr_willis> hmm.. the ones  i got work in gnome-shelkl or unity
[04:56] <dyan> on unity
[04:56] <audio> hm
[04:56] <dyan> you have to do it manually
[04:57] <dyan> theres a wensite that teach you how
[04:57] <peawormsworth> audio: that seems strange. You may want to mess with Setting->Power. I think there is a way to tell it not to save power (slow cpu) when your laptop is unplugged.
[04:57] <dyan> let me find it for you
[04:57] <dr_willis> actually  most all the indicator-applets i got seem to work in gnome-shell or unity.. and i recall seeing some work in lubuntu  also.
[04:57] <audio> will apt-get install gnome-shell add the latest?
[04:57] <histo> Yeah there is a frequency indicator applet that works fine can't remember the name of it at the moment.
[04:57] <audio> isnt lubuntu all lightweight and for notebooks or so?
[04:58] <histo> indicator-cpufreq
[04:58] <dr_willis> i use lubuntu on desktops as well ;)
[04:58] <audio> ya i was using some on mint, lil diff on unity
[04:58] <audio> hm
[04:58] <histo> audio: unity is light enough for notebooks
[04:58] <audio> got a link?
[04:58] <audio> i'll give it a shot
[04:58] <audio> cant hurt
[04:58] <FloodBot1> audio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:58] <audio> well i dont need light lol
[04:58] <histo> Man do people have no idea what we used to run linux on.
[04:58] <dr_willis> ;)
[04:58] <histo> audio: then just run ubuntu-desktop
[04:58] <audio> 6gigs mem and dual cpus/gpus
[04:59] <histo> I would run lubuntu on a 486
[04:59] <audio> hush bot no ones pasteing xD
[04:59] <peawormsworth> audio: yes it cant hurt, but it can take time. If the computer runs slow with battery plugged in and fast when plugged in... i would try to find out why that is.
[04:59] <audio> no runs same plugged or on bat peaw
[04:59] <peawormsworth> audio: o. i misread u. sry.
[05:00] <histo> audio: install indicator-cpufreq and monitor your cpu throttling. Alco you can cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:00] <audio> just the fan prob and sluggish usb so far. and the file manager acting like its lagging, but if i move mouse over the titlebar it snaps out of it
[05:00] <histo> audio: did you install proper video drivers/
[05:00] <audio> ok thx histo,
[05:00] <audio> that i have yet to been able to accomplish on any linux i've tried.
[05:01] <audio> ive had about 8 walkthrous personally. about 6 guides.. and even remotely tried by a good tech friendf
[05:01] <audio> have yet to get nvidia drivers to work correctly on this laptop
[05:01] <dr_willis> and here i just do a 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-current' and reboot.. and it works.. ;)
[05:01] <audio> lucky you ;P
[05:01] <audio> i got 9700m gts
[05:01] <audio> geforce
[05:02] <dr_willis> I dont even keep up with video card stuff these days.. that an old card or a very  new one? ;)
[05:02] <audio> ive tried nvidias walkthroughs to the t man,. and i almost had it working on kde once
[05:02] <audio> it actually booted anyway.
[05:02] <audio> older.. in the toshiba qosmio x708's
[05:02] <audio> about 9 years old
[05:02] <dr_willis> i would be suprised if the current nvidia drivers had support for it.
[05:02] <audio> actually it's still one of the best cards they made
[05:02] <audio> it's listed under all their new drivers
[05:03] <audio> one of the highest clocked gpus to this day
[05:03] <audio> if you ever get bored, google toshiba qosmio x708
[05:03] <dyan> nah man
[05:03] <dr_willis> i  belie  i had a 9600 ages ago... but i dont keep up with HW news/specs/ any more
[05:03] <audio> their beast's
[05:03] <dyan> get sony series t
[05:03] <dyan> ultrabook
[05:03] <audio> lol
[05:03] <jaequery> ot: anyone know if there is any way to perform multiple simultaneous curl calls? like 10+ at once?
[05:04] <audio> my wife has one of the newer ones and i still smoke her in benchmarks
[05:04] <peawormsworth> i would like to use a ubuntu 3rd party ppa. But for security I would like to verify the source against the original source on the main site. Is there a simple way to do this?
[05:04] <dr_willis> I had a toshiba x???   it was a beast.. 2 hd. good video card.. ran games good.. sold it to my brother .. it weighed like 18 lbs with the powersupply
[05:04] <somsip> jaequery: on command line?
[05:04] <audio> she'll pull about 100 fps in games and ill be 150 or 200+
[05:04] <peawormsworth> or is there any other way to really keep tabs on the trustworthy nature of a 3rd party ppa?
[05:04] <audio> ya i loved it
[05:04] <audio> ya its huge willis lol
[05:04] <dyan> lo
[05:04] <audio> willis lemmie ask you this before i get out of ya'lls hair
[05:04] <dyan> not convenient if its big
[05:05] <audio> if i try apt-get install nvidia-current
[05:05] <dr_willis> dyan:  it ran crysis 2 decently  well. ;)  thats what mattered at the time
[05:05] <iFlip> does anyone here know about mount.cifs
[05:05] <jaequery> somsip: yes on cmd line
[05:05] <audio> and the boot fails on ubuntu, how can i recover without having to install all over?
[05:05] <audio> from tty or something
[05:05] <iFlip> i'm gonna shoot my brains out
[05:05] <dr_willis> audio:  go to the recovery console and remove the drivers
[05:05] <histo> !anyone | iFlip
[05:05] <audio> ive tried just deleting nvidia-current, and removing xorg.conf, but never got the boot fixed
[05:05] <dr_willis> iFlip:  give us some details
[05:05] <dyan> dr_willis: I just play LoL >><!
[05:06] <audio> hm
[05:06] <somsip> jaequery: I know of nothing - though I know it's possible with PHP curl. But this is not what you want
[05:06] <audio> just by doing that? apt remove nvidia-current
[05:06] <dr_willis> audio:  some times the noveau drivers may not get unblacklisted from what ive seen.
[05:06] <iFlip> Cause it's long winded and I wanted to find out if anyone even knows before I waste everyone's time
[05:06] <jaequery> yes i do know its possible in php, so im guessing it must be possible using standard libcurl
[05:06] <dr_willis> audio:  thats about it.. :) cant say ive had to fight with nvidia much   lately
[05:06] <jaequery> but how
[05:06] <audio> yeah, i've always tried manually blacklisting them,, once had the prob it didn't unblist
[05:06] <histo> iFlip: then dont' ask and don't get help.
[05:07] <audio> alrighty, thanks ima go see if i can break ubuntu and try out lubuntu ;P
[05:07] <audio> got a link for lubu?
[05:07] <somsip> jaequery: I suppose you can loop in bash and curl....& each request
[05:07] <iFlip> dr_willis I have two linux machines and I want to set the configuration in fstab to mount the other linux machines directories to folders I have created
[05:07] <histo> somsip: what about xargs
[05:07] <iFlip> I have all the configuration setup but I keep getting this error: mount error(6): No such device or address
[05:07] <histo> iFlip: I would use NFS but if you want to use cifs it's nto hard just install cifs-utils so you can mount
[05:08] <somsip> histo: you will need to tell me. I only know how to use xargs in limited situations
[05:08] <dr_willis> iFlip:  for linux to linux shares. you may want to look into NFS instead of samba.   also you may  want to use the samba servers ip# not the servers name in your fstab.
[05:08] <histo> somsip: actually that won't work. I'm trying to thgink of a way to have it fork
[05:08] <dr_willis> iFlip:  got a sample fstab entry for us to look at?
[05:08] <iFlip> I troed ip/servername and same output
[05:08] <somsip> histo: that's why I suggested backgrounding each call. Not ideal though.
[05:08] <iFlip> yeah coming up
[05:09] <histo> iFlip: or a mount command you are typing
[05:09] <somsip> jaequery: does ab support query params?
[05:09] <iFlip> http://hpaste.org/84464
[05:10] <peawormsworth>  if i wanted to verify the binary of a ppa file, could i compile the source myself and get an exact binary match of the files in their binary package?
[05:10] <audio> dr_willis, i wouldnt need nvidia-settings or xorg configue like on mint?
[05:10] <peawormsworth> or are there too many variables which may make slightly different binary outputs?
[05:10] <iFlip> I had this working two days ago, but this is a test machine to see if I can get everything working before production. After re-installing linux it don't work
[05:11] <histo> jaequery: for i in {1..10}; do nohup curl blah & done
[05:11] <iFlip> also would this make a difference http://hpaste.org/84465
[05:12] <somsip> jaequery: or if it's suitable, 'ab -c -n 10 http://{url}'
[05:12] <iFlip> I have dual nics and one is set to ip <IP_ADDRESS> gateway <IP_ADDRESS> --- the other is ip <IP_ADDRESS> gateway: none
[05:12] <iFlip> I know that's a networking question but it may be related
[05:13] <histo> iFlip: mount -t cifs //IPADDRESSOFSERVER /mnt   what error do you get
[05:13] <iFlip> histo lemme try
[05:14] <histo> iFlip: also does sudo smbtree   show the share?
[05:15] <iFlip> http://hpaste.org/84466 I get prompt for password and then the following
[05:16] <histo> iFlip: try sudo smbtree make sure the share is visible
[05:16] <iFlip> I typed smbtree http://hpaste.org/84467
[05:18] <histo> hrm.. Are you sure you are using the right username and pass?
[05:18] <histo> iFlip: and which version of samba is this?
[05:18] <histo> iFlip: You aren't using samba4 right?
[05:18] <iFlip> I FIGURED ITOUT
[05:18] <iFlip> Who suggested smbtree!!!!!
[05:18] <histo> iFlip: me
[05:19] <iFlip> O want to hug you forever and ever!
[05:19] <histo> iFlip: what was the issue
[05:19]  * histo runs
[05:19] <iFlip> /BLACKBOX-SERVER.local/blackbox-media this was the SAMBA share and this is what I was typing //BLACKBOX-SERVER/mnt/blackbox-media
[05:20] <iFlip> I needed to take out the MNT
[05:20] <iFlip> When I saw that not showing in the tree it hit me. Thank you so very much I've been doing this for hours and not noticing!!!!
[05:20] <histo> ahh yes sharenames are not the same as mount points
[05:20] <audio> blah, i just tried installing "apt-get install nvidia-current" then rebooted.. resolution now wont go higher than 1200, and the panel, dash or anything else did not load
[05:21] <audio> anyone have any ideas?
[05:21] <audio> had to load xchat thruough terminal o.o
[05:21] <audio> through
[05:21] <histo> audio: did you try using hardware tab and selecting the proper drivers?
[05:21] <iFlip> histo Thanks so very much for the thought to check that!
[05:21] <histo> iFlip: np
[05:21] <audio> histo no, not sure how to get to it from terminal, i cant see the dash or panel
[05:22] <histo> audio: jockey-text
[05:22] <iFlip> iFlip I should've come here first
[05:23] <audio> what did you say last histo? closed chat on accident
[05:23] <audio> jockey-text?
[05:23] <histo> audio: yes
[05:23] <histo> have to go for a bit i'm sure others will help
[05:24] <audio> not sure what you mean
[05:24] <audio> that the package to install?
[05:24] <histo> audio: command to run
[05:24] <audio> ya when i tried that
[05:24] <audio> it says a list of jockey-common to install
[05:25] <audio> The program 'jockey-text' can be found in the following packages:
[05:25] <audio>  * jockey-common
[05:25] <audio>  * jockey-common
[05:25] <audio> Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
[05:25] <FloodBot1> audio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:25] <audio> oops
[05:28] <psryn> hello
[05:28] <buck_> hello
[05:28] <psryn> anyone using chatzilla here?
[05:28] <buck_> i'm not sure.
[05:28] <rodicio> Hi, Im from Spain, (my english is not perfect ;) )   I have a Gforce 7000M.  It works with Vesa but if I install with "Aditional Drivers" the Nvidia driver Recommended it work worst
[05:28] <psryn> i have a problem with a chatzilla plugin
[05:28] <audio> anyone know anything about nvidia drivers on ubuntu 12.10
[05:29] <psryn> i'll check chatzilla's channel just in case
[05:31] <accc> audio: whats the problem?
[05:32] <histo> !nvidia | audio rodicio
[05:33] <rodicio> ubottu,  Thanks, here We go :-)
[05:33] <rodicio> :D
[05:34] <buck_> ^Q^
[05:35] <accc> awww :D
[05:38] <histo> !botsnack
[05:39] <accc> i miss my own bot (rip) :(
[05:50] <audio> after installing nvidia-current on 12.10, i get past the boot and to the desktop, but resolution is jacked up and can't see dashboard or panel, how would i check to see which driver is active or select a diff one? i can bring up terminal
[05:50] <BRKsays> hey.. is this the right place to ask for a little help with my ubuntu?
[05:50] <audio> yea BRKsays  it is
[05:53] <BRKsays> ok. how to "force full screen redraws on repaint" and "don't wait for video sync" tweaks without installing ccsm?
[05:53] <wilee-nilee> BRKsays, What desktop are you using?
[05:54] <BRKsays> Ubuntu 12.04.1 lts, 32 bit. these are tewaks for horizontal lines in videoplayback.
[05:55] <buck_> :!
[05:55] <audio> anyone mind helping with driver probs on 12.10
[05:55] <wilee-nilee> BRKsays, Unity if that is the desktop is a plugin in ccsm it is installed already
[05:55] <wilee-nilee> or compiz anyway
[05:55] <echo1> test
[05:56] <audio> cant even find the dang driver selectino on ubuntu... nothing in the hardware tab for video card
[05:57] <BRKsays> my de is unity. but there is no compiz by default. I have to install it in order to remove horizontal lines. Is there anyway to apply those tweaks without installing ccsm?
[05:57] <buck_> compiz runs rather slow with gnome.
[05:57] <audio> is there an alt for compiz buck?
[05:58] <wilee-nilee> BRKsays, Unity is a plugin in compiz running on top of gnome.
[05:58] <BRKsays> audio sorry I didn't understand.
[05:58] <audio> BRKsays, was talking to buck_
[05:59] <BRKsays> wilee-nilee ok. but I have to install compiz configuration settings manager to apply those tweaks.
[05:59] <Rangga> Hello World!
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> BRKsays, that is just the control unless you add the extras, not sure why you would not install it.
[06:00] <buck_> I'm not sure,i gave it up recently and move to Xubuntu for that reason.
[06:01] <audio> whats the difference from ubuntu and xubuntu
[06:02] <audio> les resource hungry?
[06:02] <dr_willis> audio: xfce vs unity
[06:02] <buck_> yes
[06:02] <audio> yo willis, wb.. hey i got a question man
[06:02] <dr_willis> lightest DE would be lubuntu/lxde
[06:02] <BRKsays> wilee nilee I don't really tinker with stuffs. I would do the simple things like office, internet, music, videos. I just don't want to install an app to apply just two tweaks. Maybe there is something like "add these lines in config file" that'll do the same job as these two and I don't have to install ccsm.
[06:03] <audio> i tried installing just nvidia-current.. it booted (which is better than other dest.) but resolution was stuck on 1200. and no dash or panel showed.. i could run terminal however
[06:03] <dr_willis> BRKsays:  compiz uses the  dconf/gconf  settings.. so its would be doable.. but i dont know  the lines or options
[06:03] <audio> dr_willis,  so how can i get to the driver selection from terminal?
[06:03] <wilee-nilee> BRKsays, I would not know to be honest maybe others will
[06:03] <audio> dr_willis,  or since inxi -Dx doesnt work in ubuntu, how can i list what drivers is active
[06:03] <dr_willis> audio:  if you run nvidia-settings tiil it will show  if the nvidia drivers are working..
[06:04] <dr_willis> 'nvidia-settings'
[06:04] <dr_willis> if  it dosent complain then you are using the nvidia drivers.
[06:04] <audio> hm, does the instal auto black list noveau? or do i gotta do that manually
[06:05] <dr_willis> nviia-settings should black the  noveau drivers
[06:05] <audio> k
[06:05] <BRKsays> wilee-nilee it is the thought that matters. thnx.
[06:05] <audio> what about xorg.configure.. i dont need to install that on ubu?
[06:06] <dr_willis> audio:  not needed to run that i in the last several years of using ubuntu. ;)
[06:06] <dr_willis> nvidia-settings can make a xorg.conf
[06:06] <dr_willis> if needed
[06:06] <audio> alright cool, ima give it another shot and try that
[06:06] <audio> you gonna be in here? xD
[06:06] <audio> im sure i'll break somethign along the way
[06:06] <dr_willis> unless i  get a job...
[06:06] <BRKsays> dr_willis, what alternatives would you suggest for horizontal video tearing?
[06:06] <audio> what kind of work are you into
[06:07] <dr_willis> literally - all i do is install 'nvidia-current' 'reboot' run 'nvidia-settings' tweak it,. restart the x server and its done.
[06:07] <audio> im bout ready to pay someone to fix these driver probs..
[06:07] <dr_willis> BRKsays:  compiz has a few tweaks and video players have a few tweaks/filters..
[06:07] <audio> alright, thanks man
[06:07] <audio> this is the 2nd time i've ever gotten it to boot after installing.. so theres some progress atleast xD
[06:09] <mradot_> anyone want to go to my channel #computernerds
[06:09] <bazhang> mradot_, no advertising here
[06:10] <buck_> invite only?
[06:11] <peawormsworth> is there a link to a page showing all the default packages installed during a standard ubuntu first time installation?
[06:12] <kiri82> exit
[06:13] <tozen> peawormsworth: type in terminal: { echo dpkg --get-selections; dpkg --get-selections; } > installed-software
[06:13] <peawormsworth> tozen: thx, but this requires a fresh install first... i am looking for a shortcut ;-)
[06:14] <tozen> peawormsworth: after this text file will be created in /home
[06:14] <tozen> ok sorry
[06:14] <peawormsworth> np. i appreciate the command anyways.
[06:15] <IdleOne> peawormsworth: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu the Remove Ubuntu command has a list of a default ubuntu unity install
[06:16] <Shadow__X> hello I am trying to upgrade from 10.04 lts to 12.04 lts but as the update started i received an error configuring libc6 xcreensave and xlockmore must be restarted before upgrade. I click forward and the next prompt says configuring libc6 services to restart for GNU libc library upgrade rsync mysql cups cron atd apache2. Can i safely click forward or do i need to do something else?
[06:17] <dr_willis> how are you upgradeing to the new release?
[06:17] <Shadow__X> dr_willis: by using upgrade manager
[06:18] <peawormsworth> IdleOne: thx.
[06:23] <Shadow__X> dr_willis: The update manager showed a prompt to update to 12.04
[06:24] <dr_willis> Shadow__X:  well that should be the proper way to update then.. but i rarely upgrade, i tend to do clean installs.
[06:24] <calibri> Hi all, i am using bluetooth in atmel development board while communicating using ussp-push i am getting error mentioned in weblink  http://pastebin.com/SDsjpZ39 anyone can help me to solve this issue.
[06:24] <Draconis> hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 but it seems to hate me in just about every virtualization program I've tried
[06:25] <Draconis> VirtualBox was insanely slow and would not boot... Hyper-V its stilla  bit sluggish. (typing in the dash has a considerable delay) is this normal?
[06:25] <dr_willis> Draconis:  i tend to use lubuntu in vbox. it seems to work nicely for me
[06:25] <Shadow__X> Draconis: is your machine slow? virtualbox should be fine (install vbox guest
[06:25] <dr_willis> Draconis:  anything without good 3d support is going to be slugish for unity i imagine
[06:26] <Shadow__X> dr_willis: any idea on if i should click forward?
[06:26] <dr_willis> Shadow__X:  is there any other option? :)
[06:26] <Shadow__X> no
[06:27] <dr_willis> well...  i guess that answers that then..
[06:27] <Draconis> dr_willis, Host has a AMD Radeon 6870
[06:27] <Shadow__X> it seems to of been handled ok
[06:27] <dr_willis> from what ive heard LTS to LTS upgrades are supposed to be  tested quiet a bit..
[06:27] <Shadow__X> Draconis: afaik hyper-v is not known to have the best linux support
[06:28] <Shadow__X> dr_willis: thanks it seems to be going ok so far
[06:28] <dr_willis> Draconis:  its the 3d support of the VM that will matter.. i reccomend trying lubuntu  in your  vms
[06:28] <Shadow__X> Draconis: did you instlal the vbox guest additions on the host?
[06:28] <Draconis> dr_jesus, got it, will download
[06:28] <Draconis> Shadow__X, I couldn't even get it to boot in VirtualBox it would hang on installation
[06:28] <Shadow__X> i run multiple base ubuntu vm's on vmware workstation without a problem
[06:28] <Draconis> have it running in Hyper-V but its pretty slow
[06:29] <Shadow__X> ah weird not sure why its doing that. I have never had an installation problem. I have had a i do not like unity problem and gnome 3 was imo worse
[06:29] <Draconis> I think it could be my host graphics card? I'm seeing lots of horror stories about AMD on google
[06:30] <icedwater> Hello! I see partitions on my hard disk /dev/sdX using fdisk -l. Why I am not able to mount them? (live USB user)
[06:30] <dr_willis> i tend to use lubuntu  in vbox on windows machines that i cant do a normal install onto.
[06:30] <dr_willis> icedwater:  how are you trying to mount them? what fs are they?
[06:30] <mhahe> hey guys trying to install yEd for flow charting. but installation is coming to a halt with this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/5636204/  .. im guessing the library required is 32bit while im running a 64bit version?
[06:31] <icedwater> dr_willis: NTFS, mount /dev/sdXa /mnt
[06:31] <icedwater> As root, of course.
[06:32] <dr_willis> icedwater:  whats the excact mount command you are using?
[06:32] <wilee-nilee> icedwater, Open gparted and see if there are any errors sometimes a chkdsk is needed.
[06:32] <dr_willis> and any errors it gives
[06:32] <dr_willis> ntfs - needing a file system check - will   keep them from mounting  to keep the data safe
[06:32] <icedwater> sudo mount /dev/sdXa /mnt --> mount: special device /dev/sdXa does not exist
[06:33] <Shadow__X> Draconis: radeon 5850 here
[06:33] <wilee-nilee> icedwater, the after the X is incorrect.
[06:33] <wilee-nilee> a*
[06:33] <dr_willis> icedwater:  you are using an actual /dev/ entry and NOT  'sdXa' ?
[06:33] <icedwater> Opening gparted gives me "Can't have a partition outside the disk!"
[06:34] <icedwater> Yes, dr_willis. I guess I could just use /dev/sda3 instead, it's not like it makes a difference.
[06:34] <dr_willis> sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/makesurethisdirexists
[06:34] <icedwater> gparted doesn't know about stuff on /dev/sda.
[06:35] <icedwater> ntfs-3g: Failed to access volume '/dev/sda1': No such file or directory
[06:37] <dr_willis> does 'sudo blkid' show a sda1 ?
[06:39] <icedwater> Hmm... no, it says /dev/sda is a "isw_raid_member" and there are some NTFS things in /dev/mapper/BLAH_Volume0pX
[06:39] <icedwater> I think I missed the glaringly obvious...
[06:39] <icedwater> Let me try to mount those...
[06:40] <dr_willis> you using some sort of raid/lvm ?
[06:40] <icedwater> Not intentionally :P I'm on a live USB.
[06:41] <icedwater> Built using usb-creator-gtk, I might add.
[06:41] <dr_willis> that dosent mean the PC dosent have a raid or lvm setup on the  HD.
[06:41] <icedwater> But I've managed to mount the RAID partition.
[06:41] <icedwater> Yes, I didn't rule it out. I just suspected Ubuntu first. :P
[06:41] <dr_willis> so it is using raid then.
[06:44] <icedwater> For future info, this is a Sony Vaio VPC Z117 GG.
[06:46] <Draconis> hmm maybe virtualbox just hates my host machine... setup seems to be crawling with lubuntu too
[07:02] <calibri> Hi all, i am using bluetooth in atmel development board while communicating using ussp-push i am getting error mentioned in weblink  http://pastebin.com/SDsjpZ39 anyone can help me to solve this issue.
[07:02] <calibri> Hi anyone can help this..
[07:04] <kgalahassa> hi
[07:07] <kgalahassa> I  have an  attack on my ubuntu 12.O4, which  create found.OOO directories and put my files inside, on my data partition, what worse: it deletes them,  i 've not seen them, someone can help tracking
[07:08] <TakeItEZ> kgalahassa: aren't "found.000" created by windows chkdsk on filesystem-errors?
[07:08] <wilee-nilee> kgalahassa, This a wub install?
[07:08] <wilee-nilee> *wubi
[07:10] <kgalahassa> TakeITEZ, it seems, i do not know, just before starting my windows os yesterday it ask accepting a verification of my disks , by chk...something like that
[07:10] <SkyPitt> Silent
[07:11] <TakeItEZ> kgalahassa: chkdsk is like linux "fsck". seems you have a filesystem problem, not an attack.
[07:11] <kgalahassa> wilee-nilee, no, i just install ubuntu on a usbkey , and  i install it on another partition.
[07:12] <kgalahassa>  TakeItEZ, what can i do for stopping that, or resolve problem, i want to find my files , please
[07:13] <wilee-nilee> kgalahassa, Strange that as suggested the file would be the same as a chkdsk
[07:14] <TechGPS> when using the system wide proxy, does it also protect a pptp connection from getting your physical ip/
[07:15] <kgalahassa> wilee-nilee: inside found.OOO, It creates another directories like dirOOOO.chk, diskOOO1.chk, .....
[07:16] <kgalahassa>  wilee-nilee, what can i do for stopping that, or resolve problem, i want to find my files , please
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> kgalahassa, I have no idea, sorry.
[07:17] <TakeItEZ> kgalahassa: maybe you should ask in #windows (or is it ##windows ?), the guys there might have more ideas
[07:20] <TechGPS> does the system wide proxy stop any program from using your physical ip?
[07:22] <hXm> exists a way to avoid the message "restart is required" at the motd?
[07:23] <hXm> i dont want remove the message, i want to do what it needs without restart
[07:24] <mariko> hello
[07:24] <icedwater> Thanks dr_willis.
[07:25] <mariko> not active
[07:33] <Rangga> Hello
[07:33] <Rangga> could anyone help me
[07:33] <mariko> what's happening?
[07:34] <qin> hXm: kexec, ksplice?
[07:34] <Rangga> I'm trying to upgrade a server running Ubuntu 9.04, however it got stuck halfway and now it wont reboot
[07:34] <sram> hello folks is there a firewall in ubuntu i can stop ..?
[07:34] <qin> sram: iptables
[07:35] <mariko> iptables
[07:35] <Rangga> I could manage to get into the root by using an alternate CD
[07:35] <sram> Gin...iptables: unrecognized service
[07:35] <Rangga> but it wont run a liveCD, it'll just land on busybox initramfs
[07:36] <Rangga> does anyone ever had this problem before
[07:36] <Rangga> I've googled with no happy result
[07:36] <sram> rangga...full error pls and use pastebin
[07:37] <mariko> did you check the booting log?
[07:37] <Rangga> hi sram
[07:37] <Rangga> whatis padtebin?
[07:37] <mariko> to see what happened ...
[07:37] <Rangga> Hi mariko
[07:37] <somsip> !pastebin | Rangga
[07:37] <Rangga> i can't get the system boot
[07:39] <sram> ranggapaste the errors in the pastebinit
[07:39] <Rangga> now I just want to reinstall the server with the latest 12.04 LTS, however every time I put the liveCD to install it always lands on initramfs
[07:40] <mariko> some thing wrong with grub ?
[07:40] <Rangga> nope grub is fine
[07:40] <sram> fsck
[07:40] <Rangga> I could see the grub menu
[07:40] <mariko> ok
[07:40] <Rangga> tried fsck from the alternate CD, didnt help
[07:41] <sram> what is fdisk -l
[07:41] <Rangga> fdisk -l will list my disks and partitions
[07:41] <sram> use the paste bin to paste the fdisk -l results
[07:42] <sram> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[07:42] <somsip> sram: sudo fdisk -l
[07:42] <Rangga> sram: how can I copy the fdisk result? I can't even get the system running
[07:42] <sram> live cd should connect to internet per my knowledge
[07:43] <Rangga> I can't run the liveCD
[07:43] <Rangga> it will ends up in initramfs (busybox)
[07:43] <Rangga> all I could get so far to see the files is with using Ubuntu alternate CD
[07:44] <TakeItEZ> Rangga: have yo checked md5-sums of the live-cd iso and cd?
[07:45] <kylechenoO> hello
[07:45] <kylechenoO> is any ubuntu user ?
[07:45] <Rangga> hi TakeItEZ I haven't checksum but I assume the CD is ok, I could use it on other computer
[07:45] <kylechenoO> iv still got into trouble
[07:46] <TakeItEZ> Rangga: asumptions are a nice thing, but better to check stuff
[07:46] <Rangga> and I tried different LiveCD the 9.04 11.04 12.04 all end up in initramfs
[07:47] <sram> rangga are u able to login to some other machine using these live cd's
[07:47] <somsip> Rangga: is the computer definitely set up to boot from CD first?
[07:47] <mariko> boot from HD, press EAC to dump the boot log since you can see the Grub menu.
[07:47] <Rangga> yes I could use the liveCD on other machine, thats how I know it's not broken
[07:48] <kylechenoO> mariko: hello
[07:48] <somsip> Rangga: no, is the computer you are having problems with definitely booting from the CD, or is it booting from HD?
[07:48] <kylechenoO> whats HD
[07:48] <sram> echo somsip
[07:49] <mariko> if there's some thing wrong with the X system,press CTRL+ALT+F1 you can login from the console.
[07:49] <mariko> hard disk
[07:49] <Rangga> somsip: its booting from CD
[07:49] <kylechenoO> is anybody help
[07:49] <somsip> Rangga: all evidence you've given so far points to the contrary
[07:49] <kylechenoO> ?
[07:49] <somsip> !anyone | kylechenoO
[07:49] <mariko> ?
[07:49] <Rangga> somsip: what do you mean?
[07:50] <kylechenoO> ok
[07:50] <somsip> Rangga: you've confirmed the CD works ok. You've confirmed no matter which CD you use you get the same error on the broken computer. This suggest you are not actually booting from the CD
[07:50] <kylechenoO> when i installing ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10 64bit , that accur an error about the efi
[07:51] <mariko> what's efi?
[07:51] <kylechenoO> cannot mount the root file system
[07:51] <kylechenoO> i dont know
[07:51] <sram> is there any other firewall in ubuntu apart from usual iptable and wrappers
[07:51] <Rangga> somsip: the case is if I'm booting from the HD I could see GRUB and then nothing else
[07:51] <kylechenoO> someone told me thats one of win7
[07:51] <kylechenoO> win8
[07:51] <kylechenoO> but i never install win8 on disk
[07:52] <Rangga> somsip: if I boot from CD it will give the initramfs prompt if I try to re-install Ubuntu
[07:52] <TakeItEZ> efi = extensible firmware interface, the next generation "BIOS" for PCs
[07:52] <kylechenoO> my laptop
[07:52] <somsip> Rangga: fair enough. HArdware issue then?
[07:52] <kohvihoor> kylechenoO, are you installing from usb or cd?
[07:52] <kylechenoO> acer asprie 4560G
[07:52] <kylechenoO> i install it from usb
[07:53] <kylechenoO> always
[07:53] <Rangga> somsip: this is happening after I failed to upgrade from 9.04
[07:53] <kohvihoor> did you boot the usb with uefi?
[07:53] <kylechenoO> and i cant find another vmlinuz in usb
[07:53] <kylechenoO> thats only efi vmlinuz
[07:53] <Rangga> I don't think there's HW issue since it waas running fine before the upgrade
[07:53] <kylechenoO> the kernel is not fittable for my laptop
[07:53] <kylechenoO> no
[07:53] <somsip> Rangga: I have no experience upgrading from an old version. It makes no sense to me why this should affect the live cd
[07:53] <Rangga> mariko: I'll try to find the boot log
[07:54] <kohvihoor> when i'm installing from usb on my laptop, the boot from device menu lets me choose wether to boot as regular usb or uefi usb
[07:54] <kylechenoO> but i can install 32bit on my laptop
[07:54] <kylechenoO> and boot it
[07:54] <kylechenoO> it never show me that
[07:55] <kylechenoO> in grub while booting from usb
[07:55] <kylechenoO> it was only two grub entrys
[07:55] <kylechenoO> not yet...
[07:56] <kylechenoO> i cant remember it clearly
[07:56] <kylechenoO> but i cant find another kernel in livecd
[07:56] <kohvihoor> the kernel should not be the problem
[07:56] <mariko> look at this:  en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Initramfs
[07:57] <kylechenoO> kohvihoor: when i boot from ubuntu livecd from usb or cds it was not really good
[07:57] <TakeItEZ> kylechenoO: press F12 at boottime (or whatever key acer uses) to chose the boot device, maybe it has an alternative to efi-usb. or try to disable efi completely
[07:58] <Rangga> hi guys this screenshot of the booting: http://imagebin.org/251208
[07:59] <kylechenoO> i cant find any efi options in bios
[07:59] <somsip> Rangga: this is booting to what? HD? LiveCD?
[08:00] <kylechenoO> thats some usb-hdd
[08:00] <kylechenoO> just like that
[08:00] <Rangga> well out of my desperation on initramfs I'm trying to re-install ubuntu now
[08:00] <Rangga> somsip: its booting from HD
[08:01] <Rangga> but if I try to install from a LiveCD it'll just end up in busybox initramfs prompt
[08:01] <Rangga> what should I do :(
[08:01] <kylechenoO> and thats some questions also
[08:01] <kylechenoO> while boot from usb
[08:02] <kylechenoO> it cant do that for times
[08:02] <sram> rangga if u have less time connect this harddisk to another running ubuntu and backup files
[08:02] <Rangga> I am downloading an alternate 12.04 CD and will try on that later
[08:02] <sram> and then go ahead and format it with fresh ubuntu
[08:03] <Rangga> sram: I could get into the files by booting using 9.04 alternate CD
[08:03] <sram> alrite
[08:03] <Rangga> but everytime I try to choose install from the same CD it'll go to initramfs pronmpt
[08:03] <sram> does it have RAID
[08:04] <Rangga> yes it is running RAID
[08:04] <sram> ah i see raid what ? i think raid partition is corrupted
[08:05] <Rangga> I don't know much about RAID how do you know what RAID I'm running
[08:05] <Rangga> ?
[08:06] <TakeItEZ> sram: still the question why a corrupted raid-partition affects live-cd boot
[08:06] <poee> hey I am trying to change read/write permissions to a folder, but it keeps reverting back .
[08:06] <poee> can anyone tell me how to change them and make it stick
[08:06] <TakeItEZ> poee: what filesystem?
[08:06] <flightoffire> hi folks.
[08:06] <poee> ext4
[08:06] <poee> TakeItEZ, ext4
[08:07] <helmut_> hi
[08:07] <poee> I tried chmod -R uga+rw but even that isnt working :(
[08:07] <flightoffire> I use Mint but a friend has Ubuntu. I am 'tech support' (but new to Linux). He is *not* tech savvy and has used Ubuntu for over 2 years, go figure.
[08:07] <dr_willis> you mount it - then chown/chmod the directory the fs is mounted to.. poee
[08:07] <flightoffire> anyway, I am trying to install a printer driver for him
[08:08] <flightoffire> I have the deb file but how do I install it?
[08:08] <kohvihoor> flightoffire, sudo dpkg -i debfile.deb
[08:08] <dr_willis> flightoffire:  it may allready bein the repos.
[08:08] <kohvihoor> and the sudo apt-get install -f
[08:08] <poee> dr_willis, its mounted already? its in /home/username/
[08:09] <flightoffire> ok, one sec
[08:09] <kohvihoor> or if you have gdebi, then sudo gdebi debfile.deb
[08:09] <dr_willis> poee:  double check with the mount command.
[08:09] <sram> rangga how many hdd do u have
[08:09] <TakeItEZ> flightoffire: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[08:09] <dr_willis> poee:  then you  should just be able to do sudo chown and sudo chmod as needed
[08:09] <Rangga> sram: if it is RAID error whats the step should I take?
[08:09] <flightoffire> what does 'foo' mean?
[08:09] <sram> first tell me how many HDD ?
[08:09] <dr_willis> poee:  you are sure its ext2/3/4  -    sudo blkid may show you
[08:09] <TakeItEZ> flightoffire: use the filename
[08:10] <flightoffire> ok :)
[08:10] <Rangga> sram: I have 2 146GB HD attached on the server and anothe 2TB on expansion
[08:10] <poee> yes it is ext4, I am seeing it in the system monitor dr_willis
[08:11] <sram> then raid should be below level 5
[08:11] <Ben64> poee: which folder do you want to change permissions of, and why?
[08:11] <dr_willis> poee:  so cd into the mounted directory  and use ls -l to see who owns what,  then you should be able to use chown and chmod as needed
[08:11] <Rangga> sram: on the internal HD I, when I df -h I could see only 146GB instead of 292GB
[08:11] <dr_willis> then verify the change with ls -l again.
[08:12] <sram> yes with raid only half of the total 2 hdd's are usable
[08:12] <Rangga> sram: and the funny thing on that second external drive of 2TB if i do df -h it'll tell me its only 146GB also...
[08:13] <sram> it might be usb not in raid
[08:13] <poee> Ben64, I installed android sdk and what to create a AVD, but its throwing error cannot write . the folders are /home/username/.android and /home/username/desktop/android-sdk-linux
[08:13] <Rangga> it is RAID I could see it when the computer starts it said RAID
[08:14] <poee> I changed permissions using both sudo chmod and nautilus but it keeps reverting
[08:14] <poee> :/
[08:14] <dr_willis> poee:   start with the basics..  what does ls -l show as who owns .android
[08:14] <voidwalker> lulzybum lulzybumbum
[08:14] <voidwalker> Install Eclipse
[08:14] <voidwalker> it helps
[08:15] <voidwalker> or ADT
[08:15] <flightoffire> UPDATE: so far so good, just waiting for his password (via SMS) he had to head out.
[08:15] <poee> dr_willis, poee does
[08:16] <dr_willis> poee:  so what command/tool are you running that can not write to it?
[08:17] <sram> rangga atlease the minimum survival level is to be able to boot into the repaired system and be able to run mount
[08:18] <Rangga> ok what do I mount?
[08:18] <Rangga> right now I just want to re-install it
[08:18] <poee> dr_willis, android sdk
[08:19] <dr_willis> poee:  so whats the exact command you are using...
[08:19] <poee> dr_willis, I tried chmod -R uga+rw  foldername
[08:19] <Rangga> sram: if I could get to the repaired system wwhat should I mount?
[08:20] <poee> sudo chmod
[08:20] <dr_willis> poee:   ok.. as your user poee, cd into .android and try a 'touch testfile'     does that work?   do a ls -l testfile to see its ppermissions and ownership
[08:20] <poee> okay
[08:21] <sram> rangga u should try mounting the repaired partition
[08:21] <Rangga> sram: do u mean the root partition?
[08:22] <poee> -rw-rw-rw- 1 poee poee 1708 date time adbkey
[08:22] <poee> dr_willis, ^ thats the output
[08:23] <dr_willis> poee:  and does the command  'touch testfile'   work?
[08:23] <sram> correct root which holds the main configuration
[08:23] <poee> yes it doesnt display any output though, dr_willis
[08:23] <dr_willis> poee:  so ls -l    SHOULD show a testfile.. it did not show it above
[08:24] <Ben64> poee: sounds like the sdk got installed incorrectly
[08:24] <Rangga> sram: yea I could get to the repaired system by using alternate CD and choose the Fix option
[08:24] <Rangga> then what?
[08:24] <dr_willis> does ls -l show a file named 'testfile' ? if so then your  permissions are correct. your  user can write to that directory poee
[08:25] <Rangga> I just copied all the configuration files and backed up the data in it and now ready to re-install the whole system
[08:25] <Rangga> but now I can't do that with a liveCD
[08:26] <poee> dr_willis, it does show the file yes.
[08:26] <Rangga> it gives me the initramfs prompt every time i try to re-install
[08:26] <poee> maybe the sdk is installed incorrectly, I ll try reinstalling it
[08:26] <dr_willis> poee:  so your permissions  are correct.. Your  issue is with how you are running the sdk stuff...
[08:27] <Rangga> now I will try to use 12.04 alternate CD and reformat and install with it
[08:28] <poee> thanks dr_willis
[08:30] <Rangga> clr
[08:46] <flightoffire> still stuck...
[08:46] <nocturnal_> im trying to find the right driver for an nvidia geforce go 6150 in my pavillion dv6000 laptop. i have searched all over google and know i need to find the right driver and config my xorg.conf
[08:47] <Giora> Have you tried on nvidia's site?
[08:47] <nocturnal_> Giora: yup
[08:47] <dr_willis> flightoffire:  tell us exactly  what you are doing.
[08:48] <flightoffire> I typed: sudo dpkg -i /home/username/downloads/package-name.deb
[08:48] <dr_willis> what is the exact ppackage name? the package may allreadybe in the repos.
[08:48] <flightoffire> I am prompted for PW which I enter
[08:49] <flightoffire> hl2270dwlpr-2.1.0-1.i386.deb
[08:50] <flightoffire> "cannot access archive: No such file or directory"
[08:50] <dr_willis> flightoffire:  Case is impornt in Liux paths
[08:50] <dr_willis> you re doing a typo
[08:50] <flightoffire> I know it is the correct directory, I checked
[08:50] <dr_willis> its Desktop not 'desktop'
[08:50] <dr_willis> may be same for Downloads and downloads
[08:50] <flightoffire> ok
[08:50] <dr_willis> cd to where the file is at.. then just dpkg -i whatever.deb
[08:51] <dr_willis> the TAB key can help auto complete pathss/names
[08:51] <TakeItEZ> flightoffire: are you sure the 2270 still needs the crappy brother-debs? at least the 2250dn works with the shipped drivers (12.10)
[08:51] <dr_willis> My brother also worked with the stuff from the repos/default drivers
[08:52] <dr_willis> apt-cache search brother                 may show packages in the repos that would be better then the .deb from the  brother site
[08:52] <starkiller> omg i dont have permision to creat a folder in my own hardrive:P
[08:53] <Giora> Use sudo xD
[08:53] <reindeer> Q: Any known bad quirks/bugs on 12.04LTS + latest Nvidia 310.40 (+ Geforce GTX460)? I am in the process of installing one of the proprietary drivers soon.
[08:53] <dr_willis> starkiller:  totally depends on the filesystems and how the permissions are setup
[08:53] <flightoffire> Dr, I am aware of case sensitivity. I do tech support for Windows periodically but very new to Linux. Thus, I can figure some thingsout but do not know Lx environment, commands, etc
[08:53] <starkiller> i used sudo to make one XD then i  dont  ave permision to put anything in it lol
[08:54] <dr_willis> starkiller:  makes sence if your user has no rights to that directory
[08:54] <Giora> Lol
[08:54] <flightoffire> re brother drivers, I do not know exactly what he has.
[08:54] <Giora> Sometimes I get lazy and just do sudo nautilus
[08:54] <starkiller> i think im ad,inistrador xdX
[08:55] <flightoffire> he just tells me that he can't get his printer to work, so I think he tried to download the driver to 'fix it'
[08:55] <TakeItEZ> !permissions | starkiller
[08:55] <dr_willis> starkiller:  thats a bit of a meaningless term  in ways.. your user mayhave 'sudo' rights.. but that dosent mean they can automatically write to anywhere by default
[08:55] <dr_willis> flightoffire:  he should determine the exact printer, and check the askubuntu.com site and cups.org and linuxprinting.org  for info about it.
[08:55] <flightoffire> I lso can't seem to logon to my wireless here. I have entered correct passphrase
[08:56] <flightoffire> thanks for links
[08:56] <dr_willis> !cups
[08:56] <HelpMeJo> I know this is ubuntu channel but because my problem seems to be mainly on Linux I would like to ask here. When I installed Qt5 on Ubuntu 12.10 the fonts look strange. Does someone have the same problem>
[08:57] <starkiller> lol i guess ill have to read xD :)
[08:57] <vince__> hello. Im trying to get ubuntu 13.04 to show up in the boot window at startup along side 12.04 & 12.10. can anyone help out?
[08:57] <lordcyfer> Hello everybody
[08:58] <starkiller> thanks for the info :)
[08:58] <vince__> good day lord
[09:00] <flightoffire> wireless is set to: Mode=infrastructure, SSID is correct, MTU=automatic, Security is set to WPA & WPA2 Personal, IPv4 is set to Automatic DHCP. Did I miss anything?
[09:00] <Ben64> arent you on mint though?
[09:00] <TakeItEZ> vince__: boot the installation with the main grub 8the one written into MBR) and then "sudo update-grub"
[09:00] <flightoffire> Ubuntu Software Centre is not connecting
[09:01] <reindeer> Q: so, is anyone running nvidia 310.40? all ok?
[09:01] <flightoffire> Ben64, u askign me?
[09:01] <Ben64> yeah
[09:01] <flightoffire> I am chatting here on my Minty but have his lappy on my, well, lap
[09:01] <flightoffire> I use Minty, he uses Ubuntu
[09:02] <flightoffire> Mint works great, but I am not familiar with Ub
[09:02] <dr_willis> flightoffire: mint and ubuntu  should support identical hardware for the most part..
[09:02] <vince__> thanks EZ- kind of noobish here though. the installation i need to boot is which one?
[09:02] <flightoffire> one would think, they are both Deb
[09:02] <dr_willis> flightoffire:  does ifconfig  show the wire card?
[09:03] <flightoffire> type in terminal?
[09:03] <TakeItEZ> vince__:the one which has written grub into MBR
[09:03] <dr_willis> flightoffire:  yes.....
[09:03] <TakeItEZ> vince__: you should know which version that is, we can't
[09:04] <TakeItEZ> vince__: most likely the one at the top of the grub-menu
[09:04] <vince__> ahh i see. the main boot is 12.04, so I can run sudo...ect from that and fix it?
[09:05] <TakeItEZ> vince__: yes, "sudo update-grub" should find/add any linux installation
[09:05] <lordcyfer> I need to know to setup a non us keyboard mapping for X with preseed for an Ubuntu 12.04 auto install http://paste.ubuntu.com/5636400/ contain all
[09:06] <vince__> EZ- thanks. That helps a ton. I'm here trying to fix it from a secondary os. should've known the main one was best for doing most everything
[09:07] <flightoffire> what is the linux equivalent of ping?
[09:07] <TakeItEZ> flightoffire: ping
[09:07] <Ben64> ping
[09:07] <flightoffire> :)
[09:08] <dr_willis> might be time to read up on some command line basics.... ;)
[09:08] <flightoffire> I can ping google.com just fine
[09:08] <flightoffire> so it IS getting access to 'net
[09:08] <dr_willis> so whats not working exacctly?
[09:08] <flightoffire> just not loading up software packages for some reason
[09:09] <dr_willis> flightoffire:  'sudo apt-get update'   works?
[09:09] <flightoffire> Ubuntu Software Centre
[09:09] <flightoffire> ok, one sec
[09:09] <dr_willis> close sotware center... use that command
[09:10] <flightoffire> listing a bunch of stuff
[09:10] <flightoffire> seemed to work ok
[09:10] <_genuser_> guys, as usual, using universal usb installer, with ubuntu 12 live CD
[09:10] <_genuser_> but it fails to boot for Ubuntu 12.
[09:11] <dr_willis> flightoffire:  if you wan tto upgrade the system then use 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[09:11] <_genuser_> previous versions never had this issue. is this a known problem, or should I use a lower ubuntu version?
[09:11] <flightoffire> yep, got a bunch of stuff.
[09:11] <_genuser_> fails dropping you into busybox prompt saying mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed.
[09:11] <dr_willis> _genuser_:  what exactly  is not working? the live usb is not working?
[09:11] <flightoffire> I will restart update centre...
[09:12] <dr_willis> sounds like the iso maybe bad.. or the tool  had issues.. theres alternative live-usb maker tools at the pendrivelinux web site
[09:12] <dr_willis> or you can 'dd' the iso file straight to usb. but that  wont make a peristant save file
[09:12] <CoJaBo> Anyone know if theres a good (GUI) editor for Linux that supports recovery saves?
[09:13] <julianduque> Hello, i'm trying to install Ubuntu on a Asus Zenbook Prime with USB but it shows a black screen after grub, any ideas? I read the forums and threads and it seems that everybody was able to install with no problems
[09:13] <flightoffire> point of clarity, the Update Software Centre *does* open up with various icons showing, but clicking on the System tab results in it sitting there with rotating timer icon for AGES. I.e,, not connecting
[09:13] <_genuser_> dr_willis: booting from ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso. creating live usb stick using Universal-USB_Installer-v1.5.8
[09:13] <julianduque> also, I'm seeing a simple black grub menu, not the beautiful polished ubuntu one
[09:13] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | julianduque
[09:14] <julianduque> dr_willis, ubottu: will try
[09:14] <dr_willis> _genuser_:  youdid verify the md5sum of the iso?     you can try  other tools also
[09:14] <flightoffire> I tried a couple of other icons, same waiting issue
[09:15]  * dr_willis dosent recall ubuntu having a polished grub menu.
[09:15] <starkiller> what folder should i back up to back up my system setings and programs XD?
[09:15] <flightoffire> time for a reboot...did I just say that  o.O
[09:15] <dr_willis> flight 'other icons' ? huh?
[09:15] <_genuser_> dr_willis: no, I did not. It's an ISO I have used over and over for my vmware VMs without problem.
[09:15] <dr_willis> flightoffire:  if this is the first update on that box.. it may have a new kernel installed and should be rebooted
[09:16] <flightoffire> other icons in Software Centre. Main page opens fine but clicking on any icon results in waiting, waiting, waiti...
[09:16] <flightoffire> yeb, brb
[09:16] <flightoffire> yep
[09:16] <dr_willis> Peronally.. i never use software center..
[09:16] <flightoffire> you're a command line guru right?
[09:16] <flightoffire> :)
[09:16] <julianduque> dr_willis, ubottu: nothing happens, still a black screen :|
[09:17] <mariko> neither do i
[09:17] <dr_willis> for irc  support - the command line is the way to  offer advice and fix things
[09:17] <_genuser_> dr_willis: altho, the Universal-USB_Installer specifically says create liveusb for Ubuntu 10.x, I guess it could be something version specific.
[09:17] <julianduque> I know that ubuntu works neat on this model, but I'm getting frustrated.. tried with dd, Universal Boot Installer, Unetbootin
[09:17] <dr_willis> apt-get update  - has been the same for decades...... vs   (click on this icon, now click over there...)
[09:18] <dr_willis> julianduque:  sounds like its some hardware/video quirk more then a badly made usb then
[09:18] <julianduque> dr_willis: it's an intel 4000 hd, nothing fancy
[09:18] <dr_willis> julianduque:  what ubuntu release are you using?
[09:19] <raven> hi
[09:19] <raven> i am trying to watch a smbfs mounted folder with inotifywait but of course the smb mount does not update itself - any ideas how to workaround?
[09:19] <julianduque> tried with 13.04 (daily) and 12.10
[09:19] <k_sze[work]> Does ubuntu have it's own way of making apache2 reload the config?
[09:19] <julianduque> dr_willis: grub menu isn't the purple one, it helps?
[09:19] <TakeItEZ> k_sze[work]: sudo service apache2 reload
[09:20] <k_sze[work]> TakeItEZ: I read that using `service` is the LSB way, so Ubuntu will be following that from here on?
[09:21] <TakeItEZ> k_sze[work]: afaik yes
[09:21] <dr_willis> ubuntu has used the service command for some time now
[09:22] <mcnesium> i need help with byobu-tmux. i cannot reattach to a session started with „byobu -S name“
[09:23] <mcnesium> this is on 12.04
[09:23] <TakeItEZ> dr_willis: it has, but "service" is sysvinit :)
[09:23] <mcnesium> i didnt even know that it uses tmux by default
[09:23] <dr_willis> byobu can use screen or tmux. it used to use screen by default. now a days it uses tmux
[09:24] <mcnesium> obviously it did not in this case
[09:24] <raven> i am trying to watch a smbfs mounted folder with inotifywait but of course the smb mount does not update itself - any ideas how to workaround?
[09:24] <mcnesium> i see a tmux session in htop
[09:24] <mcnesium> but byobu ls says „failed to connect to server: Connection refused“
[09:24] <DirtyJobs> Hi all, i am trying to create a pptp server on my ubuntu 12.04LTS. I'm following some detailed instruction but it just doesn't work as intended
[09:24] <mcnesium> and byobu attach -rd -t name says „no sessions“
[09:25] <julianduque> dr_willis: tried with: nomodeset, also no splash and still on a black screen :|
[09:25] <dr_willis> mcnesium:  i thought if yyou  just ran 'byobu' it would reattatch itself automaticallt
[09:25] <mcnesium> dr_willis: no, it opens a new session in this case
[09:26] <mcnesium> a screen session btw
[09:26] <mcnesium> i dont know why it used tmux yesterday
[09:26] <mcnesium> as said, i used „byobu -S name“
[09:26] <julianduque> neither the check disc for defects option works
[09:30] <raven> i am trying to watch a smbfs mounted folder with inotifywait but of course the smb mount does not update itself - any ideas how to workaround?
[09:31] <julianduque> dr_willis: it was the freakin' boot secure options
[09:32] <dr_willis> julianduque:  i dont havev any pcs new enought to  have that. ;)
[09:32] <dr_willis> turn secure boot = off -->   good advice, ;)
[09:32] <julianduque> dr_willis: pheeeew, related: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2086054
[09:32] <julianduque> dr_willis: thanks :)
[09:34] <raven> i am trying to watch a smbfs mounted folder with inotifywait but of course the smb mount does not update itself - any ideas how to workaround?
[09:34] <flightoffire> Dr_willis, well, I just found out he is using an old version of Ub. Nice one. Time for an upgrade
[09:34] <en> ciao
[09:34] <dr_willis> 'but of course '.... dosent really make much sence raven ....
[09:35] <raven> dr_willis ?
[09:35] <dr_willis> could be inotifywait uses some mechnism that smb dosent follow.
[09:35] <dr_willis> and you may wan tto give more details instead of just repeating
[09:37] <dr_willis> perhaps some tips at -->    http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2807671/can-any-linux-api-or-tool-watch-for-any-change-in-any-folder-below-e-g-sharedr
[09:45] <BrixSat> Morning
[09:46] <BrixSat> Can i compile the latest vlc in ubuntu 10.04?
[09:53] <en> ciaoù
[09:55] <marandi> hey guys , i have Quantal Quetzal on my laptop , yesterday when i start ubuntu , all desktop was gone , i mean unity and a warning pop out too report this bug in ubuntu ! now i cant use unity --reset ! how can i get default setting of unity or compize , how can i fix it ?
[09:55] <chunkyhead> i bought a mic, connected it to laptop, it's not working :| doesn't ubuntu have auto detect option?
[09:57] <ne2k> any ideas why apt-get dist-upgrade might be stalling on "run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub 3.2.0-39-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-39-generic" ?
[09:58] <minas> is there a command to check disk fragmentation in linux?
[09:58] <minas> *to check, not to defragment
[09:58] <TakeItEZ> minas: fsck
[09:58] <jony> why is Krusader slow when accessing folders (ussing Ubuntu 12.04)?
[09:58] <minas> TakeItEZ, Is there anything that can do it while the disk is mounted?
[09:59] <ne2k> I thought update manager had crashed, so I killed it, then I did dpkg --configure -a to recover it and it's stalled at the same place
[09:59] <TakeItEZ> minas: idk
[09:59] <flightoffire> he is using Release 11.04 (natty)Q: in upgrading the kernel/op system in Ubuntu, do I simply install over the top or is there some special place or command to use
[09:59] <minas> TakeItEZ, thank you
[09:59] <flightoffire> above is re my friends palm top
[09:59] <flightoffire> mentioned some time ago
[10:00] <ne2k> minas: what is the filing system?
[10:00] <marandi> hey guys , i have Quantal Quetzal on my laptop , yesterday when i start ubuntu , all desktop was gone , i mean unity and a warning pop out too report this bug in ubuntu ! now i cant use unity --reset ! how can i get default setting of unity or compize , how can i fix it ?
[10:01] <k1l> flightoffire: you can upgrade to the next releases in uubuntu
[10:01] <minas> ne2k, ext4 I think
[10:01] <flightoffire> he is using natty 11.04
[10:01] <k1l> flightoffire: but maybe you need some work because 11.04 is outdated some time ago
[10:01] <k1l> !eol | flightoffire
[10:01] <ne2k> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+question/173189 seems like need to reboot and dpkg --configure -a again.
[10:02] <ne2k> this OS is seriously turning into Windows
[10:02] <flightoffire> i know, that is why I want to upgrade it for him
[10:02] <icedwater> Hi! How might I get libsvn1 from quantal's repos if I need it to compile Subversion 1.7.8?
[10:02] <chunkyhead> i bought a mic, connected it to laptop, it's not working :| doesn't ubuntu have auto detect option?
[10:03] <lhavelund> icedwater: It's possible you can just use apt-get build-dep subversion. That'll fetch all the dependencies for subversion as it is in the repos currently.
[10:03] <lhavelund> Of course, dependencies may change between versions, but often, not too much.
[10:03] <flightoffire> I'm just reading upgrade instructions in Ub web site
[10:03] <icedwater> Ah, I forgot to mention I'm running precise. How ironic :)
[10:03] <sergiufreenode> witch  laptop will give better fps in online games like WoW? Asus e-450 1.65 HD 6470M or b830 intel GMA?
[10:03] <DirtyJobs> Hi all, i am trying to create a pptp server on my ubuntu 12.04LTS. I'm following some detailed instruction but it just doesn't work as intended
[10:04] <lhavelund> icedwater: Oooh. I'd look for libsvn1 on the Ubuntu repository browser, but I don't have a link handy.