[11:50] <iPenguin> histo: Main reason is that i fully want the ubuntu and not the dualboot install. the wubi does not work like that on my netbook sadly.
[11:50] <histo> iPenguin: did you see the info from ubottu in regards to wubi?
[11:50] <iPenguin> histo: Who is ubottu?
[11:51] <histo> !wubi | iPenguin
[11:52] <joesavage> oe_DM_: I modified rc.local with my startup script and now my machine won't start properly and has permission errors everywhere. Oh jesus christ.
[11:54] <usr13> joesavage: So what did you put in rc.local ?
[11:54] <histo> joesavage: your script has to have an exit status of 0 in rc.local
[11:54] <ThePendulum> I was wondering if there are fingerprint interfaces other than fingerprint-gui for Ubuntu
[11:55] <ThePendulum> Imo, fingerprint-gui looks absolutely terrible in the furtherwise polished Ubuntu interface
[11:55] <histo> ThePendulum: apt-get search fingerprint
[11:55] <histo> ThePendulum: sorry apt-cache search fingerprint
[11:55] <ThePendulum> (Or, otherwise, a way to disable the fingerprint-gui pop-ups and just enable the possibility without notification)
[11:55] <ThePendulum> histo: Heh, yeah, let's see
[11:55] <joesavage> I kept the "exit 0" -- there were just a few "mv" lines and stuff like that. When I try and start my machine I'm now greeted with: http://pastebin.com/KVg59aXF
[11:55] <usr13> joesavage: Oh yea, that may be it.  As histo points out, your entry must be above the last line that says "exit 0"
[11:56] <Hershey> Hi, I've commented out "#Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server" and restarted ssh with service ssh restart and /etc/init.d/ssh restart but I can still connect to my server via sftp and get into any directory. How can I disable SFTP access?
[11:57] <histo> joesavage: read the text at the top of rc.local
[11:57] <joesavage> histo: I would, but I can't access my machine any more -- it doesn't go past the text I pasted D:
[11:57] <nbubuntu> histo : still no solution ?
[11:58] <nbubuntu> any hackaround making flash for hardware acceleration
[11:58] <usr13> histo: Turn off the ftp server?
[11:58] <joesavage> histo: How can I get back in there to revert my changes? I have sites served off that server at the moment and it just won't start properly
[11:59] <usr13> joesavage: Where is the text?
[12:00] <joesavage> usr13: http://pastebin.com/KVg59aXF
[12:01] <Guest78663> can anyone tell me how to get new respository for blackubuntu
[12:02] <usr13> joesavage: "If you don't use raid, use raid=noautodetect" ?
[12:04] <joesavage> usr13: The base of the server was previously set up and I just leave it as it is -- it was working perfectly before I modified the rc.local file and mounted fstmp or whatever and then restarted
[12:04] <k1l_> Guest78663: ask the blackubuntu support
[12:05] <usr13> joesavage: If it is the rc.local file, just edit it and take out what you put there, or just chmod -x  until you figure out what needs to be done.
[12:06] <joesavage> usr13: How am I supposed to modify the file if the system doesn't start?
[12:06] <usr13> joesavage: You have direct access to the machine. Right?
[12:06] <usr13> joesavage: Use a boot disk.
[12:06] <joesavage> usr13: Nope, it's a Linode
[12:07] <usr13> joesavage: So you don't have any way to edit the files?
[12:07] <joesavage> usr13: I'm stuck looking at the failure to boot lines and I can't do anything about it
[12:09] <usr13> joesavage: I don't know, I'm late in the conversation.  I don't know what your original problem was and what you've done.  If I knew more about it, maybe I could think of a solution, but..... I dono...
[12:09] <nbubuntu> any hackaround making flash for hardware acceleration
[12:09] <vulpes> how to i make xorg.conf in xubuntu 12.10? :)
[12:10] <usr13> vulpes: Several ways.  What display adapter are you using?
[12:10] <abud11> hello.. i need help with ubuntu nexus 7
[12:10] <vulpes> usr13, LCD. laptop.
[12:11] <usr13> vulpes: lspci |grep VGA   #Tell us what it says.
[12:12] <vulpes>  Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)   :)
[12:12] <joesavage> usr13: I made some changes to my rc.local file, and now the machine won't start. That's basically it.
[12:12] <usr13> joesavage: Then you'll need to either dissable or fix rc.local
[12:13] <vulpes> usr13, what now?
[12:13] <usr13> vulpes: lsb_release -r
[12:14] <usr13> (Show us.)
[12:14] <vulpes> 12.10
[12:14] <vulpes> usr13, i need to enable compiz in 12.10...
[12:15] <vulpes> usr13, i read somewhere i need xorg.conf first but i dunno how to make it..
[12:15] <theadmin> vulpes: Err. Unity is centered around Compiz, currently.
[12:15] <theadmin> vulpes: So Compiz is enabled by default
[12:15] <nbubuntu> any hackaround making flash for hardware acceleration
[12:16] <vulpes> theadmin, no im using Xubuntu
[12:16] <theadmin> vulpes: Oh, I see. Well, you can just install compiz and configure Xubuntu to somehow use it as the window manager. Not sure how you'd do that though.
[12:16] <vulpes> Xubuntu 12.10 theadmin
[12:17] <vulpes> sure i'll give that a shot.. but how do i make a Xorg.conf file in Xubuntu? I know how to do it in Ubuntu with gedit but for some reason i cant do the same with Xubuntu.. :(
[12:18] <JBzh> good afternoon
[12:18] <skinnyblondegirl> hi
[12:18] <gordonjcp> vulpes: "for some reason" - there must be some reason
[12:18] <gordonjcp> vulpes: what happened when you tried?
[12:18] <usr13> vulpes: What exactly do you need to do?  (What is it that you are trying to accomplish?)
[12:19] <vulpes> yeah i've had a long day.. mind isnt as good as this morning.. been reading the whole day gordonjcp
[12:19] <usr13> vulpes: Oh, never mind.  you need to enable compiz
[12:19] <usr13> vulpes: lsmod | pastebinit   #Show us resulting URL
[12:19] <vulpes> usr13, i need to make a Xorg.conf file in Xubuntu... thats it
[12:20] <vulpes> so how do i do that usr13
[12:20] <usr13> vulpes: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-set-up-compiz-in-xubuntu-1210-or.html
[12:21] <JBzh> I could not find how to launch from terminal and/or unity launcher an application on a specific screen. I have two screens, I want to launch my browser in screen 2, a gnome-terminal in screen 1, automatically when I log in.  Any help ?
[12:22] <JBzh> The application launch is ok, but everything is openned in screen 1
[12:22] <vulpes> right.. thanks usr13.
[12:22] <theadmin> vulpes: You dont need an xorg.conf to run compiz %)
[12:22] <usr13> vulpes: Have you looked in Settings Manager > Session and Startup > Applications Autostart tab  for  Compiz  ?
[12:22] <theadmin> vulpes: Settings are autodetected most of the time
[12:23] <theadmin> vulpes: Infact, xorg.conf is only needed for some crazy configurations, like multimonitor stuff (even that is mostly autohandled, though)
[12:23] <usr13> vulpes: Anyway, I'm pretty sure you'll find the info you need at http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-set-up-compiz-in-xubuntu-1210-or.html
[12:23] <nbubuntu> any hackaround making flash for hardware acceleration
[12:25] <usr13> nbubuntu: flash for hardware acceleration?  Can you elaborate on that just a bit?  (Not sure what you mean....)
[12:25] <vulpes> guys i'm following this person's post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1871258. we have exactly the same problem but i dont know how to make the xorg.conf file as stated in the post. :(
[12:26] <vulpes> i am also switching from ubuntu karmic to xubuntu
[12:26] <vulpes> i also have the same thinkpad model
[12:26] <nbubuntu> usr13 : everytime , I browse youtube video , it eats up my processor speed which jumping as high as 60%.And at stat display on youtube video , framerate drops until 300 times in 5 min video
[12:26] <jony_easyrider> if I launch sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop, the operations which are in executing state at that moment, will finish first or not?
[12:26] <auronandace> vulpes: karmic has been end of life for quite a while
[12:27] <nbubuntu> usr13 : I just wanted it to minimize the frame rate drop + less processor usage
[12:27] <vulpes> i know auronandace.. thats why im switching
[12:29] <usr13> nbubuntu: What flashplayer did you install?
[12:30] <nbubuntu> usr13 : from adobe <IP_ADDRESS>1 and google chrome build in <IP_ADDRESS>1
[12:31] <skinnyblondegirl> hi#
[12:32] <skinnyblondegirl> can someone help please ubuntu 12.04 workspace switcher current combination 2 x2 works ok.  I move to a 4 x1 combination and the main screen is ok but when i click screen 2 just get a blank screen and all menus disappear, i dont think i have any effects in place it is 12.04 LTS
[12:32] <skinnyblondegirl> also second problem is that the trackpad is does not respond to any sensitivity changes which is making it really hard to surf thank you
[12:32] <usr13> vulpes: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   #To edit xorg.conf file.
[12:33] <skinnyblondegirl> the trackpad appears to be quite sticky to be honest
[12:33] <oiiiiimm> ubuntu live dvd is allowing me to copy files from previous ubuntu partition to ntfs
[12:34] <mhr> I am getting "update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/barnyard2 missing LSB information" when doing "update-rc.d barnyard2 defaults" in ubuntu 12.04 server
[12:34] <oiiiiimm> it gives me permission error message!
[12:34] <oiiiiimm> can anyone help
[12:34] <angeloalmighty> how do i stop the autorun change of configuration when i plugin my external monitor?
[12:34] <usr13> auronandace: I thought he said he was on 12.10  ???
[12:35] <joesavage> usr13: I've managed to boot into rescue mode, how do I know which disk is the one I want to mount, and how once I've mounted how can I modify the actual file? (Sorry, I don't deal with this stuff very often)
[12:36] <usr13> joesavage: Should already be mounted. sudo vi /etc/rc.local
[12:36] <oiiiiimm> X-(
[12:36] <usr13> joesavage: or  sudo chmod -x /etc/rc.local
[12:36] <mhr> !LSB | mhr
[12:36] <joesavage> usr13: "By default, your disk images are not mounted when your Linode boots into rescue mode"
[12:36] <usr13> joesavage: ... to just disable it.  But if you can, fix it.
[12:37] <usr13> joesavage: sudo fdisk -l   #Will show you the partitions.
[12:37] <usr13> joesavage: You should be able to tell from that which one is the root filesystem.
[12:37] <usr13> joesavage: Pastebinit  if your not sure and we'll look
[12:38] <HowNowBrownCow> how do i stop the autorun change of configuration when  i plugin my external monitor?
[12:39] <usr13> joesavage: mount    #To see what is mounted now.
[12:39] <corehook> does anyone used splunk unix & linux app for sending data to splunk server ?
[12:39] <joesavage_> usr13: http://pastebin.com/faC23JSp
[12:40] <joesavage_> usr13: So xvdb?
[12:41] <nbubuntu> usr13 : ??? no one actually watching youtube ??? really weird , you guys doesn't watch youtube at all ?
[12:42] <joesavage_> usr13: It was xvdb, yay! Hopefully I can fix the damn server now!
[12:42] <usr13> nbubuntu: I do.
[12:42] <usr13> joesavage_: I don't know.
[12:42] <usr13> joesavage_: Yea, good.
[12:43] <nbubuntu> usr13 : what's your cpu usage while playing youtube video even on 240p ?
[12:43] <usr13> nbubuntu: dono, haven't checked.
[12:43] <nbubuntu> usr13 : ok ...hope there's a fix for it
[12:47] <usr13> nbubuntu: 69%
[12:47] <usr13> at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qN72meqXYo
[12:47] <nbubuntu> usr13 : right click on your youtube video and view the stat for nerd
[12:47] <usr13> (don what size it is.
[12:48] <nbubuntu> usr13 : As for me , the framerate dropping non stop .For a 5 min video over 300fps drop
[12:49] <skinnyblondegirl> can someone help please ubuntu 12.04 workspace switcher current combination 2 x2 works ok.  I move to a 4 x1 combination and the main screen is ok but when i click screen 2 just get a blank screen and all menus disappear, i dont think i have any effects in place it is 12.04 LTS
[12:49] <usr13> 640x360
[12:49] <skinnyblondegirl> also second problem is that the trackpad is does not respond to any sensitivity changes which is making it really hard to surf thank you
[12:49] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: what graphics card do you have?
[12:49] <mhr> I am getting "update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/barnyard2 missing LSB information" when doing "update-rc.d barnyard2 defaults" in ubuntu 12.04 server. what is wrong with it?
[12:50] <usr13> 30-31 video fps, 150 dropped
[12:50] <PinkSwing> Hi. I'm trying to get a scanner working. It's a Mustek 1200 UB Plus and I am running Ubuntu 12.04. Initially xsane gave the message "no devices available" on startup. I am following instructions at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and I have copied the file sbfw.usb to /usr/share/sane/gt68xx and renamed it to PS1fw.usb.            ls -al produces      -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7792 Jun 21 13:24 PS1fw.usb             The out
[12:50] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Ivy Bridge Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[12:50] <usr13> 60% cpu usage
[12:51] <usr13> 60-65
[12:51] <peyam> Hi
[12:51] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: Does the taskbars also dissapear? (the top and maybe bottom, bars)
[12:52] <peyam> Hi
[12:52] <usr13> nbubuntu: I suppose it all depends on your hardware and the player you use ... etc.
[12:52] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: yes and the only way to get back is to switch the thing off
[12:52] <peyam> What is best Screen capture tool for linux? I want to film my desktop and make some toturials
[12:52] <usr13> peyam: recordmydesktop
[12:52] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: switching what off?
[12:52] <nbubuntu> usr13 : did you suffer any framerate drop ?
[12:53] <PinkSwing> peyam: https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&ie=UTF-8#newwindow=1&sclient=psy-ab&q=screen%20capture%20ubuntu&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=d69c67ffffacf41e&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48293060,d.d2k&biw=1280&bih=867
[12:53] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: the laptop off, as i couldnt get back to the menu screen
[12:53] <Magicarp> Update manager updated some of my packages yesterday and now when I boot the window manager loads but unity does not
[12:53] <usr13> nbubuntu: After 7 minutes about 200
[12:53] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: oka. Do you have compiz settings manager installed?
[12:53] <peyam> PinkSwing: I want the best one people has experienced. I dont have time to do research now
[12:53] <usr13> nbubuntu: Looks fine tho
[12:54] <nbubuntu> usr13 : mine over 300 drops even with 240p
[12:54] <nbubuntu> usr13 : what's your pc spec
[12:55] <usr13> Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz dual core
[12:55] <usr13> GeForce FX 5500
[12:55] <usr13> Ok gotta go for now.
[12:56] <joesavage_> usr13: Getting things like "bash: /bin/ls: Permission denied" and "bash: /bin/grep: Permission denied" even though I have the correct permissions to all the files. Any idea?
[12:57] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: ??
[12:58] <ubuntu> hello
[12:58] <accc> hi
[12:59] <nbubuntu> usr13 : mine is just althon
[12:59] <nbubuntu> Any user here with i5 ivy bridge or haswell still having framerate drop ? cpu usage ?
[13:01] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: not sure if this is installed i went back to the old menu scheme as the new one is difficult to navigate
[13:02] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: i couldnt really find the compiz settings as i recall they used to be there
[13:02] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: open a terminal and do: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[13:03] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: installed
[13:03] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: will that have resolved the issue
[13:04] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: nope not yet hold on
[13:04] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: open it up: (in terminal compizconfig)
[13:05] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: see if your "viewport switcher" is activated
[13:05] <ws2k3> Hello how can i verify my sshd confiug on buntu
[13:05] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: opened and viewport switcher is ticked
[13:06] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: it was always ticked, i did not change it
[13:06] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: okay gimme a sec
[13:06] <joesavage_> Getting "init: Failed to spawn hwclock main process: unable to execute: Permission denied" on startup and things like "bash: /bin/ls: Permission denied" and "bash: /bin/grep: Permission denied"  when I'm trying to do things from rescue (chroot'ing my disk) -- any help?
[13:07] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl:  my system is heavily customized so I need to check all the defaults
[13:08] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: thanks will wait no problems
[13:09] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: what happens when you press ctrl+alt and an arrow key? If your system gets stuck, try alt+f2 to open a run terminal.. This should take you back to port 1..
[13:10] <grahamsavage> how can i restrict a TCP port to only accept traffic from particular ranges
[13:11] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: ok thanks for that, but any ideas on getting the menus up for thi
[13:11] <grahamsavage> i.e. if you don't come from the correct ip ranges, you can't tell the port is open
[13:11] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: so it switches correctly?
[13:12] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: ok that is fine.. let me check now if I change it to a 4 x 1 configuration where it was getting stuck
[13:12] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: the 2x2 appears to be ok
[13:12] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: oka ill wait :)
[13:13] <adie> how do I let programs show up in the tray bar? seems ubuntu has intentionally broke that in the last 2 releases.
[13:14] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2xii:  this still not working on a 4 x 1 configuration
[13:15] <ws2k3> how can i restart the sshd server on ubuntu?
[13:15] <CalimeroTeknik> probably /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[13:16] <CalimeroTeknik> is there a command of a bot in this chan, to know which package to install to get some file I don't have?
[13:16] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: working for a 2 x 2 but not for a 4x1
[13:16] <CalimeroTeknik> !help
[13:16] <CalimeroTeknik> !list
[13:16] <CalimeroTeknik> !pkgfile
[13:25] <grahamsavage> on a server what ports do you need open incoming / outgoing except for the services you are running?
[13:25] <reisio> none
[13:32] <ws2k3> Hello i changed my sshd portand did a /etc/init.d/ssh reload and indeed sshd isnt listin on port 22 anymore. netstat -a shows me its listen on the new port but when i connect to my new port i get connectiong closed by IP (no i dont have a firewall)
[13:33] <reisio> ws2k3: use the old port
[13:34] <zero2XIII> Skinnyblonegirl, you still here? My connection reset... :/
[13:34] <ws2k3> tryed told me connection refused
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3: if you nmap the host, is it listening on the new port?
[13:34] <ws2k3> well with nma it shows that the new port is open yes
[13:34] <ws2k3> well with nmap it shows that the new port is open yes
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3: if you are connecting from outside your LAN, did you configure the port forwarding on the router first?
[13:35] <ws2k3> its in LAN
[13:35] <ws2k3> so i dont have to port forward
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3: cool, easier
[13:35] <ws2k3> yeah well its not LAN but VPN to DC
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3: try renaming ~/.ssh
[13:35] <ws2k3> still LAN :)
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3: on the client
[13:35] <ws2k3> how you mean exacly?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3: mv ~/.ssh ~/.ssh_old
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3: then run:   ssh user@server -P port
[13:37] <ws2k3> when i run that it says no such file or directory
[13:37] <MickS> ws2k3: if you telnet to the new port, does it open the connection, and if so, does it give you a header? In case it does not open a connection, it might be firewall issue somewhere, in case it opens, but no header, it might be tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/deny) and in case you do get a header, try ssh with verbose options to get some extra debugging output.
[13:38] <ws2k3> hmm i'm on a mac does mac have telnet(A)
[13:39] <MickS> should have afaik
[13:39] <ws2k3> yes ssh is running there
[13:39] <streulma> ws2k3: it is not ssh reload, it is ssh restart
[13:39] <gulzar_> How to open pendrive showing RAW filesystem? It contains video recordings from set-top-box. It works with TV but on PC showing RAW filesystem.
[13:40] <ws2k3> tryed both
[13:40] <MickS> ws2k3: do you see a header though?
[13:40] <ws2k3> it shows me connected to IP SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.8p1 Debian-7ubuntu1
[13:40] <streulma> gulzar_: do fdisk -l
[13:40] <freon> I googled Ubuntu images for VmWare player but couldn't find any. i have 64bit proc and OS.
[13:40] <MickS> ok, so you should be able to connect to the ssh, so you need to have debugging output to see what's not working
[13:41] <gulzar_> streulma: Tried making image of it with gnome-disk-utility. Got a .img file,, but cannot mount it
[13:41] <zero2XIII> freon: you can use any ISO file to install a VMware ubuntu
[13:41] <ws2k3> i still have another ssh session that i used to do this
[13:41] <ws2k3> that connection is still open
[13:41] <MickS> ws2k3: ssh -vv -p portnumber user@host
[13:42] <zero2XIII> gulzar_: furius iso mount, in loop mode
[13:42] <ws2k3> micks all shows fine only last rule is connection closed
[13:43] <ws2k3> debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_5.8p1 Debian-7ubuntu1
[13:43] <ws2k3> debug1: match: OpenSSH_5.8p1 Debian-7ubuntu1 pat OpenSSH*
[13:43] <ws2k3> debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0
[13:43] <ws2k3> debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.9
[13:43] <ws2k3> debug2: fd 3 setting O_NONBLOCK
[13:43] <ws2k3> debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
[13:43] <ws2k3> ah sry for paste in chanel
[13:44] <MickS> can you make a paste with full output (you can change the ip address if needed)
[13:44] <ws2k3> ok np
[13:44] <zero2XIII> ws2k3: but please in pastebin
[13:45] <ws2k3> http://pastebin.com/CJLwUR0J
[13:45] <ws2k3> ofcrouse :)
[13:47] <MickS> interesting... it does not show it received the key exchange but closes the connection at that point ... I think you should have a look in the logs on the sshd machine
[13:48] <MickS> did you change any other setting besides the port number btw?
[13:48] <ws2k3> nope
[13:48] <ws2k3> i did not
[13:48] <ws2k3> if you want i can change it back to 22 reload the config to verify that
[13:48] <ws2k3> i wanne state i stil have one open connect ssh session to the machine but i assume that does not matter?
[13:49] <theo> I am trying to set up a cisco vpn on Ubuntu, and the problem is, in the Network panel, if I click on it to be on, I get no error, but if I go to 'Wired' from the left sidebar then back on the VPN name, it's off
[13:49] <bdmeyersc> setting up vnc across ssh fro a windows machine to an ubuntu machine Connection is no problem. When the screen draws, it is a grey background without any icons. Does anyone know of any docs on where fixing this is described? (vino-server)
[13:50] <MickS> ws2k3: you could also try to regenerate the keys... that might also help in some cases:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server
[13:51] <ws2k3> i dont dare to do that :P i think its for a reason they have disabled the keys
[13:51] <MickS> how many sshd processes are running on the machine?
[13:53] <freon> isnt there an official VMWARE image available?
[13:53] <freon> i want the löastets ubuntu on vmware
[13:53] <jrib> !vmware | freon
[13:53] <jrib> freon: check there while you wait though I don't think it has what you ask
[13:54] <ws2k3> there are 3 running
[13:54] <MickS> ws2k3: hmm, another possible issue. Can you do a `ls -la /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key` for me?
[13:54] <freon> if you are not using threads and semaphores for your embedded programs, why are you using an OS at all?
[13:54] <freon> wrong channel
[13:54] <theo> I am trying to set up a cisco vpn on Ubuntu, and the problem is, in the Network panel, if I click on it to be on, I get no error, but if I go to 'Wired' from the left sidebar then back on the VPN name, it's off
[13:55] <ws2k3> freon there is no vmware in the reposity because its not open source
[13:55] <ws2k3> you can download vmware workstation from other sources and just install it thats no problem i have done it in the past
[13:55] <ws2k3> MickS it says me no such file or directory
[13:56] <MickS> oh, sorry... /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[13:56] <ws2k3> if i kill all sshd deamons will my ssh session stay open then ?
[13:57] <freon> I dont get this, are these for MAC computers: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/12.04/release/ ????
[13:57] <MickS> ws2k3: no, it'll close your connection
[13:57] <ws2k3> ah okay
[13:57] <ws2k3> micks in the mailwhile i'm trying to connect via kvm
[13:57] <bdmeyersc> sudo ocate xrdp
[13:58] <xjohnthomasx> Can someone help me - I am encountering a stubborn login loop with the graphical login of my main account on ubuntu 12?
[13:58] <xjohnthomasx> I tried making a new user. Same thing happens. However, I can login with the guest account graphically as well as cli. And I can login with the main account through cli.
[13:59] <freon> so i just download an iso and mount it in vmware?
[13:59] <compdoc> freon, it says that some are for macs
[13:59] <MickS> ws2k3: your connection will stay open if you kill the /usr/sbin/sshd -D process(es)... the sshd: username are the running sessions. Best idea is to do a:  sudo service ssh restart
[13:59] <MickS> ws2k3: that should keep your connection running
[14:00] <xjohnthomasx> Anyone?
[14:00] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, What else should I try - since I tried making a new user and the same thing happens?
[14:01] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: you should post the ~/.xsession-errors again (just post the fresh one as it will likely be less cluttered) and see if a simpler wm like fluxbox instead of xfce will work.  Also, describe what you did before this happened (I remember something about resizing home)
[14:02] <jrib> freon: sure, you can just install ubuntu in vmware.  And you can use the mac images.  The (mac) images will work on non-mac computers, they just have some "extra" stuff afaik
[14:02] <jrib> freon: the mac images are all 64bit though
[14:03] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, saying it's trying to post an empty document with xsession-errors
[14:03] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: is it actually empty?
[14:04] <MickS> xjohnthomasx: could be some profile/bashrc issue perhaps
[14:04] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, seems it
[14:04] <jrib> MickS: note xjohnthomasx's issue happens with a freshly created user
[14:04] <xjohnthomasx> I'm in the cli of the main account. I did "more ~/.xses..." nothing..
[14:04] <MickS> jrib: yeah, global profile of bashrc file
[14:05] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: but last time you pasted a really long one for the main account
[14:05] <xjohnthomasx> I believe so
[14:05] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: is the fresh user's also blank?  Check ~freshuser/.xsession-errors
[14:06] <xjohnthomasx> In /home/freshuser/ ?
[14:06] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: you're just getting kicked back to the log-in screen right?
[14:07] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: sure, "~freshuser" is shell short-hand for freshuser's home which is usually /home/freshuser
[14:07] <xjohnthomasx> I'm on graphical login lightdm, gdm, or ldm. I type in login and pass. Black screen. Kicked back to graphical login.
[14:07] <xjohnthomasx> Otherwise, tty 2, cli login, password. Fine.
[14:08] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: did you make changes to global files such as bash's bashrc, profile, or even files in /etc/skel as MickS suggested we check?
[14:08] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, There's no /home/freshuser
[14:08] <xjohnthomasx> Nope. Not personally or manually. All I did last was shrink the /home and expand the /swap.
[14:08] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: by "freshuser" I mean the name of the new/fresh user you created that also can't log in
[14:08] <xjohnthomasx> And did an update/upgrade from the cli.
[14:08] <xjohnthomasx> Yes. I know.
[14:09] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: how did you create him?
[14:09] <zykotick9> xjohnthomasx: if you have ever used sudo with a gui program, check for root owned files in your users home
[14:09] <xjohnthomasx> adduser
[14:09] <xjohnthomasx> Gparted live might have changed permissions because it's a root program with a gui. I did however do a chown -R of all my home folder.. Didn't seen to help.
[14:09] <xjohnthomasx> seem
[14:09] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: you're sure you used "adduser" and not "useradd"? "adduser" will create a home directory but "useradd" won't
[14:10] <kristenbb> Hi
[14:10] <kristenbb> Can someone here me ?
[14:11] <MickS> jrib: cli login works, so the user has been added properly with homedir I suppose
[14:11] <jrib> kristenbb: we can see what you type ;)
[14:11] <Erealz> anyone use pgp?
[14:11] <xjohnthomasx> Ok, made another user. One sec
[14:11] <xjohnthomasx> I don't know/remember which. Will try again
[14:12] <Erealz> what part of my gpg key is the key id im a lil lost?
[14:12] <MickS> Erealz: might be better if you just ask your question ;-)
[14:12] <Erealz> gpg  --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --send-keys Key Id
[14:12] <jrib> MickS: it will still log in but complain that HOME doesn't exist and set it to / (at least with dash)
[14:13] <Erealz> im trying to send my key but i dont know what exactly is the key id?
[14:13] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, don't see xsession in the new user home folder
[14:13] <Erealz> that basically it
[14:13] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, only bash logout, bash rc, profile xauth, xdefault, and xscreensaver
[14:13] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: and you tried to log in through lightdm already?
[14:13] <xjohnthomasx> Maybe xsession error isn't created until first graphical/Xstart
[14:13] <xjohnthomasx> I tried logging in with xubuntu from graphical
[14:13] <xjohnthomasx> Kicked back to same
[14:14] <mJayk> anybody recomment a CLI text editor ?
[14:14] <jrib> mJayk: nano, vim, emacs
[14:14] <mJayk> merci ill try nano
[14:14] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, lightdm, yes. is default.
[14:14] <xjohnthomasx> i also have gdm and lxdm
[14:15] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: pastebin « df -h »
[14:15] <xjohnthomasx> are those quotes?
[14:15] <MickS> Erealz: it's the 8-char hex code
[14:15] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: yes, they are quotes for you, you shouldn't include them in the command
[14:16] <xjohnthomasx> what's the exact command you'd type? says can't read from df
[14:16] <Erealz> micks how can i display that?
[14:16] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: df -h
[14:16] <MickS> Erealz: gpg --list-public-keys
[14:17] <Erealz> that did it
[14:17] <Erealz> thanx bro
[14:17] <SuperLag> All is not perfection in Linuxland for me. The joys of using the non-repo Nvidia drivers. *sigh*
[14:17] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5786881/
[14:17] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: since you are pastibinning things, include « ls -l /home/*/.xsession-errors » and the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log.  Include any commands you type too so we don't miss things because of typos
[14:18] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: your /home is full
[14:18] <MickS> Erealz: my pleasure
[14:18] <xjohnthomasx> Seems home is full?
[14:18] <xjohnthomasx> Might be the problem?
[14:18] <SuperLag> jrib: I know I'm late since you were talking about this a few minutes ago... but if you use the -m switch, useradd *will* create a ~
[14:18] <xjohnthomasx> But it says use is less than avail
[14:18] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: probably
[14:18] <xjohnthomasx> Weird
[14:18] <FloodBot1> xjohnthomasx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:18] <skinnyblondegirl> hello, i need assistance in configuring my touchpad, it is very stick though works but not smooth.  I am have looked around and not sure what needs to be done, i have played around with the setting but to no avail.  I think i may need the drivers but doing a xinput - list it says i have a core xtest pointer.  thank you
[14:18] <mJayk> jrib: thanks nano works nicely
[14:18] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: some space is reserved for root (you can and probably should change that for the /home partition though)
[14:19] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: it's based on percentage by default.  And 18GB reserved is way more than you want imo
[14:19] <vnc786> quit
[14:20] <xjohnthomasx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5786895 http://paste.ubuntu.com5786896
[14:20] <mementomori> hi
[14:20] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: yep, just take care of your space issue and you should be set I imagine
[14:20] <das> Using LVM, ls it possible to add a physical volume to a volume group if the phisical volume is mounted already ?
[14:21] <xjohnthomasx> Take care how? Delete some things from /home?
[14:21] <mementomori> is pidgin present in a default installation?
[14:21] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: yes, or reduce the amount reserved for root
[14:22] <skinnyblondegirl> hello, i need assistance in configuring my touchpad, it is very stick though works but not smooth.  I am have looked around and not sure what needs to be done, i have played around with the setting but to no avail.  I think i may need the drivers but doing a xinput - list it says i have a core xtest pointer.  thank you
[14:24] <xjohnthomasx> what's the command to ls and pause every screen length?
[14:25] <zykotick9> xjohnthomasx: "ls | more" is the old-school, while "ls | less" is more modern
[14:25] <marianne> hi, I'm running 12.04, can someone confirm that the next LTS release is 13.04?
[14:25] <xjohnthomasx> zykotick9, is there a way to ls from descending size order?
[14:25] <somsip> marianne: 14.04
[14:26] <zykotick9> xjohnthomasx: well ya, but i don't know off hand.  you'd need size in the output, then a pipe to sort, and possible a reverse switch for sort...  good luck.
[14:26] <marianne> somsip: seriously?
[14:27] <zykotick9> xjohnthomasx: if you want to know the size of directories, i'd check out the ncdu program (not installed by default)
[14:27] <somsip> marianne: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS "A new LTS version is released every 2 years. In previous releases"
[14:27] <tsonko> hi
[14:27] <xjohnthomasx> Any good command line file manager?
[14:28] <marianne> somsip: thanks for the link....
[14:28] <xjohnthomasx> A tty file manager?
[14:28] <tsonko> may I chat with someone please
[14:28] <zykotick9> xjohnthomasx: mc is old school, ranger is newer
[14:29] <auronandace> tsonko: state your ubuntu issue and someone will help if they choose to
[14:29] <tsonko> hello
[14:30] <tsonko><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:31] <OerHeks> tsonko this channel is logged, so you will get more mail now.
[14:31] <zykotick9> tsonko: it's a bad idea to post your email address in irc channels that are logged.  this will go onto a web site where bots, can now harvest your email address -- just sayin'
[14:31] <marianne> ok, now that I know I have a while left on my 12.04, I'm thinking about a system76 machine.... since this is the support channel, I would love to know what everyone thinks and if they have run across a lot of issues with these machines.
[14:32] <OerHeks> marianne this is not system76 support, ubuntu will run fine on it though
[14:33] <freon> where to talk about zigbee?
[14:34] <redgirl> hellow! does ubuntu server 13.04 reconnect wifi?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> redgirl: should do, it uses network-manager just like the desktop
[14:34] <marianne> OerHeks: I'm more interested in the OS than the hardware, but was wondering if anyone here had used one with ubuntu loaded... going to search for system76 support now
[14:35] <redgirl> huh, i just rebooted my router and ubuntu disappeared behind nat...
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> freon: http://irc.lc/ircnet/rtsd.zigbee/irctc@@@
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> marianne: could contact them directly
[14:36] <redgirl> ActionParsnip, what i could check in network-manager to be sure that ubuntu will reconnect next time?
[14:38] <marianne> ActionParsnip: sent them an email and got a generic response, so when the vendor fails, ask the end users...
[14:39] <marianne> ActionParsnip: I'm just getting tired of having to build my own machines to get what I want, and their systems are really closeand running the right OS
[14:39] <weimei> ..
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> marianne: are they ubuntu certified?
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> marianne  maybe you can specialize in hardware for ubuntu, it would be most welcome, i guess
[14:42] <doomlord> is there a compatability list showing how well ubuntu runs on win8 devices( i'm thinking of hybrids like surface pro, sony duo etc)
[14:42] <Ari-Yang> marianne, there's always lubuntu and xubuntu if you want something lighter (assuming that's what you want)
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> marianne  apart from System76, there's also ZaReason
[14:43] <marianne> ActionParsnip: yes, they appear to be certified, as I found the items on omgubuntu
[14:44] <marianne> Ari-Yang: I'mma desktop kinda girl and starting to do development on linux/ubuntu, so lighter isn't really necessary
[14:45] <Ari-Yang> ah, okay
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> https://zareason.com/shop/Desktops/
[14:45] <marianne> MonkeyDust: Awesome, I'll check them out too...thanks
[14:46] <Ari-Yang> marianne, wait, you're looking for machines that already have ubuntu pre-installed?
[14:47] <marianne> Ari-Yang: thats how I would like to go this time... I really hate having to install and configure...
[14:47] <xjohnthomasx> what's cli to empty trash
[14:47] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, why would myhome say 400 of 425 used, but still 100%?
[14:47] <marianne> Ari-Yang: Or something that has hardware installed that is vetted for Linux
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> xjohnthomasx  ~/.local/share/Trash/
[14:48] <xjohnthomasx> what's the command to empty it? just rm the files?
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> xjohnthomasx  rm ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[14:50] <nocturn00> Hi, how can I remove uefi boot from grub... I set the bios to disabel it but now Ubuntu does not boot
[14:50] <nocturn00> off course...
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> xjohnthomasx: in kde: ktrash --empty
[14:50] <Ari-Yang> marianne, you could also think about building a machine (ordering the parts from newegg) that will have better specs than those machines.
[14:50] <Ari-Yang> just throwing the thought out there
[14:51] <ingamedeo> nocturn00, Sure, it you have installed an UEFI system
[14:51] <ingamedeo> *if
[14:51] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, Thank you - just was an over full home partition.. haha.. all that for so simple a thing...
[14:51] <xjohnthomasx> D'oh
[14:52] <nocturn00> ingamedeo: I have, but UEFI causes a module on my laptop not to load, without UEFI it works
[14:52] <freon> virtual disk as single or multiple file? since im never gonna move it it doesnt matter if i ahve a single file right? just easier?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> !info trash-cli
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> cools
[14:53] <ingamedeo> nocturn00, So, if you have installed with UEFI enabled now if you disable it in the BIOS it ll neva work
[14:54] <nocturn00> ingamedeo: I know, but does that mean reinstalling or can I load grub in normal mode
[14:54] <nocturn00> I'm on a livecd
[14:54] <armin> hm, a focused windo seems brighter in unity on my setup. anyone a clue why that could be the cause?
[14:55] <armin> +w
[14:55] <smokie> hey guys, anyone know of a way to run an internet speed test using terminal?
[14:55] <ingamedeo> nocturn00, For me it means reinstalling
[14:55] <jrib> smokie: wget <bigfile>
[14:55] <ingamedeo> smoke_, Use wget
[14:55] <ingamedeo> jrib, Indeed!!!
[14:55] <marianne> Ari-Yang: That's what I have right now and yes, it is doable. Just trying to save some time... but it's probably what I'll end up doing
[14:56] <smokie> jrib, yeah, obviously i could do that.. but i dont have any big files online
[14:57] <ingamedeo> smoke_, Do you have to test a website speed or your internet connection speed?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> smokie: use wget to grab the ubuntu dvd, lots of chance to get up to full whack
[14:59] <smokie> ah true.. the ubuntu image
[15:02] <gartral> hey all, I have a really weird issue, I'm editing source for a driver, and I can't actully make the edit stick, even as root.. for some reason it keeps getting reverted.. even after I lock the file as read-only by root.
[15:10] <blz> Hello, I've had a few system hangs that have caused me to either REISUB or hard reboot.  Which log files should I look at to figure out what went wrong?
[15:12] <gartral> blz /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kern.log would be good places to start
[15:12] <blz> gartral, thanks
[15:15] <blz> gartral, hmm so I have a bunch fo `null`s in both of those files at the time of the last crash... would you mind taking a look?
[15:16] <blz> gartral, kern.log:  http://hastebin.com/livorolebo.css
[15:16] <eklo> In precise, how can I change the ssh last login to print the IP instead of the name
[15:16] <blz> gartral, yikes... hastebin seems to have cropped out the line of 100 or so 'null's on line 40
[15:16] <nicky> any popular online game that can be run on ubuntu wihtot vm or the like
[15:17] <Kion> nicky:  I like OpenArena a lot
[15:17] <foobArrr> I have trouble installing 12.04.2 (alternate). In my first try, the installer froze after network setup, now in my second try it froze after setting up luks. it looks like this: http://s3.imgimg.de/uploads/IMG0341660b51b2JPG.jpg
[15:18] <blz> and here's syslog:  http://hastebin.com/hifolibepo.py  The DATA_ERROR lines repeat a few thousand times...
[15:18] <blz> I'm not sure what to make of this =/
[15:19] <nicky> non 3d kion
[15:19] <adie> how do I change terminal sudo timeout time?
[15:19] <Kion> nicky: I use e-board to play chess online ....
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> adie  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183418
[15:23] <bdmeyersc> Does anyone know what I should be looking for, to fix: When I vnc into 'precise'  all i have is a grey screen? (vino-server)
[15:27] <compdoc> bdmeyersc, you may need to correct your xstartup
[15:28] <bdmeyersc> COmpDoc.  I didn't think of that. Ill see what I can figure out. Thank-you.
[15:30] <frack> hi I have a query...
[15:30] <frack> I am having issue with my wifi connection..
[15:30] <frack> Only my Wifi is not visible at Computer.. but other people are visible
[15:31] <frack> also I can use Wifi connection at my other devices..
[15:31] <melow01> I'm trying to setup a VLC stream and I'm wondering what this is: v4l2:///dev/video0
[15:31] <frack> I used to have same issue with windows, to fix it, I used to use "Troubleshooting Network"... But in case of ubuntu there isn't anything like it..
[15:32] <frack> Anyone can help?
[15:32] <melow01> I realize that dev is device and video0 is video but what is v4l2
[15:33] <melow01> frack, which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[15:33] <blz> frack are you saying your SSID is not visible?
[15:33] <frack> v41l2 looks like protocol for VLC like http/https
[15:33] <frack> I am using 12.04
[15:34] <wolf29_> Cursor is not visible over some program windows; skype, system monitor, sqlitebrowser.  I have xfce desktop, most of the xubuntu desktop environment, kde.  Original install was of UbuntuStudio
[15:34] <melow01> ok, found it... v4l2 = Video for Linux 2; but how is it used in VLC? Is this an application that grabs the stream from my video device?
[15:34] <frack> yes blz
[15:35] <frack> my SSID is not visible.. I have been using it for some time now... but vanished
[15:35] <frack> same issue was with windows, but troubleshooting networking used to fix it..
[15:36] <frack> I tried invisible connection, but didn't work....
[15:36] <blz> frack, have you tried using the "connect to a hidden wifi network" option?
[15:36] <blz> Ah okay =)
[15:36] <frack> I also try to reset card but nothing ...
[15:36] <blz> frack, what does nm-tool give you? Can you pastebin the output?
[15:37] <jdoles> Do I need acpi-support for anything?
[15:37] <frack> pastebin?
[15:37] <blz> frack, paste.ubuntu.com
[15:38] <blz> post the output of nm-tool there, and then give us the resulting link so we can look at it
[15:38] <SolarisBoy> melow01: its the way vlc references v4l devices
[15:38] <melow01> frack, pastebin is a utility to paste text online so others can view it.
[15:38] <frack> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5787089/
[15:38] <blz> frack, there's only one access point around you? Or did you truncate the output?
[15:39] <melow01> SolarisBoy, ok... so I was reading that its an API for Video...
[15:39] <SolarisBoy> melow01: its the api for video cams
[15:39] <SolarisBoy> yeps
[15:39] <frack> no only one is around... my own is missing..
[15:39] <SolarisBoy> melow01: you can mess around with it's functionality by installing v4l-tools and see more what it does and is used for
[15:39] <SolarisBoy> i think it's the name of the package ::scratches head::
[15:39] <jrtappers> Is there a way to override the way flash gets the res of the display? It scales itself for my desktop space, and it then letterboxes to one screen
[15:39] <melow01> SolarisBoy, I seem to be getting this error: "cannot set standard 0xb000: Invalid argument"
[15:40] <melow01> SolarisBoy, oh thanks for the tip on tools
[15:40] <blz> frack, so I don't see anything that's outright *wrong*, but my own nm-tool output says "Default: yes" for my wireless card
[15:40] <blz> maybe somebody else has an idea =/
[15:40] <blz> frack, silly question, but did you try restarting your wireless router?
[15:40] <SolarisBoy> melow01: what do you get that from? or where at? is that coming from vlc command when your using v4l options or a specific v4l device?
[15:40] <jrtappers> Because I have 2 screens, and it seems to be scaling for both, and displaying on one, so it letterboxes videos badly
[15:41] <SolarisBoy> hmm melow01 are you trying to stream and use audio from an alsa device?
[15:42] <frack> blz, yes wireless card is fine with other wifi if I try to do hotspot it get connect but not with this one.. Is there some tool like "troubleshooting network" in ubuntu? since that used to fix the issue on windows.. :(
[15:42] <freon> is it to tough for the computer to give a VM 2GB if you have 4 in total? when i run the VM i just run the VM...
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> freon: Should be fine
[15:42] <blz> frack, not as far as I know... I'm sure if it's something that the windows troubleshooter can figure out, then someone here will know the answer
[15:42] <blz> just sit tight
[15:42] <blz> I'm one of those lucky bastards whose never had wifi issues =)
[15:44] <frack> lol.. I should have seen the logs, I guess i have to reinstall window and check how that windows troubleshooter were fixing the issue... I only saw something reset wifi.. I thought it might reinstall the driver.. But i also tried to do it manually but didn't used to work...
[15:45] <freon> Where do I start the shell? I just installed vmare version
[15:45] <frack> goto dash home search for terminal freon
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> freon: I suggest you use virtualbox if you are new to virtualization
[15:48] <freon> i did, but searched for shell instead :) got it now
[15:48] <freon> nah vmware is easy and good have used it before
[15:49] <need_help> hii pls i need help! i have ubuntu 11.10 suddenly no more output sound
[15:49] <need_help> i remove pulseaudio and reinstall it back the same
[15:50] <theseus> just did a clean install of Ubuntu 12.04, applied updates and I am getting no sound.
[15:50] <theseus> any ideas?
[15:50] <loganrun> for a stupid java app popups appear behind the main window and I can't resize the main window or make it go to the back. is there a way to make popups appear in the front
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> need_help: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[15:50] <theseus> did that
[15:50] <theseus> nothing
[15:50] <theseus> sound works in headphones but not speakers
[15:51] <theseus> sound was working find on my machine from the last time I installed it
[15:51] <theseus> so I know drivers work with Ubuntu
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> theseus: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[15:53] <need_help> ActionParsnip shall i do the same ?
[15:53] <Matthew_Moore> Dose anyone here now anything about Conky?    i am having an issue with letters overlapping in mine.  here is a screenshot.      http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz47/pcbuilder97/Screenshotfrom2013-06-21114015_zps8e5898df.png
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> need_help: if you have sound issues, then the generated URL can help diagnose stuff
[15:54] <theseus> ActionParsnip: it tells me the model of my machine and a lot of other stuff
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> theseus: yes, and the sound setup....
[15:54] <PhoenixSTF> Hello I am having kernel panics over at my 13.04, it may have something to do with wireless
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> theseus: what is the generated URL?
[15:54] <PhoenixSTF> any fixes?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: which wifi chip? Details please.....
[15:55] <theseus> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=92f121b6496e9b2e0b00d1e4821683536b93dae5
[15:55] <adie> I'm looking for a font that will be easier to read; http://i.imgur.com/OHURNNE.png
[15:56] <PhoenixSTF> ActionParsnip, Broadcom BCM4313
[15:56] <adie> any recommendatiomns?
[15:56] <need_help> ActionParsnip http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=cb70e5c65c5245b0cc53fb2eaad24e2674fe4d44
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: did you install the driver as per the broadcom howto
[15:57] <need_help> ActionParsnip based on the log can u look if u can help me to identify the issue pls
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> theseus: if you run the sound app in dash as well as:  alsamixer   in terminal, are the levels maxed and unmuted?
[15:57] <PhoenixSTF> ActionParsnip, no I just did the distro upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> need_help: Oneiric is EOL, it is no longer supported in any way
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: try removing it then readd it
[15:57] <need_help> ActionParsnip ya i know but its hard to re-install ,this lappy is in the other country
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: just so you know, Raring is EOL in January 2014 wheras Quantal is EOL in April 2014
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> need_help: doesnt make it supported
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> need_help: Oneiric is EOL
[15:58] <theseus> ActionParsnip: not all are maxed in alsamixer but when I did maxed them in the past it would cause some problems.  For example, when starting up the machine before login the sound when always be blasting but after log in there would be no sound
[15:58] <loganrun> for a stupid java app popups appear behind the main window and I can't resize the main window or make it go to the back. is there a way to make popups appear in the front
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> need_help: you can upgrade to Precise in one jump as it is the next release
[15:59] <need_help> ActionParsnip sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[15:59] <theseus> ActionParsnip: I just maxed the speakers again in alsamixer and still no sound
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | need_help
[16:00] <zero_coder> hello
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> theseus: try: echo "options snd-hda-intel model=clevo-m540r" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null      reboot to test
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> theseus: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1733323.html   shows some possible models
[16:01] <zero_coder> how can I attach shortcut keys with application
[16:01] <zero_coder> like I want to attach ctrl+alt+T for terminal
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> theseus: change that file with the other clevo ones til it works. Also try  model=laptop
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> theseus: you will eventually hit the setting you need
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> zero_coder: you can use commands in ccsm
[16:02] <SonikkuAmerica> zero_coder: If you're using Ubuntu with Unity or Lubuntu, that's already preset. In Xubuntu it's Super+T. In Kubuntu you have to set it yourself.
[16:02] <zero_coder> i am using kubuntu SonikkuAmerica
[16:02]  * wolf29_ would like to get the settings I need
[16:02] <zero_coder> SonikkuAmerica :no idea how to set it
[16:02] <SonikkuAmerica> zero_coder: (We have a #kubuntu channel, by the way)
[16:02] <zero_coder> SonikkuAmerica  : its kinda dead
[16:05] <wheatthin> zero_coder, try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/107879/bind-keys-to-actions-in-kde-4
[16:13] <freon> is there an irc client included with ubuntu?
[16:14] <zero2XIII> freon: nope. Install pidgin
[16:14] <Pici> freon: I believe that Empathy is being shipped with Ubuntu by default, but it is a very poor IRC client.
[16:15] <zero2XIII> freon: there are other options, but pidgin has a whole lot of networks that is supports... +1 for empathy being a poor irc client
[16:16] <erek> anyone here using natty narwhal?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> pidgin rocks for irc imho :)
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> erek: natty is EOL and no longer supported
[16:16] <erek> ActionParsnip: i am attempting to install kdenlive 0.8.0, and it seems i could only get it on natty narwhal
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> erek: https://launchpad.net/~sunab/+archive/kdenlive-release?field.series_filter=precise
[16:18] <Pici> erek: Is there a reason you need tha version?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> erek: for Precise. LTS until Aril 2017
[16:18] <zero2XIII> erek, it is in the repros for 12.04
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> !info kdenlive precise
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> erek: so its also in the Precise repos....
[16:19] <Pici> And in Raring.
[16:19] <erek> i require 0.8.0 specifically
[16:19] <erek> anything newer has a bug in it
[16:22] <zero2XIII> erek: which bug? I use it and it works on 12.04
[16:22] <boogy> Hello
[16:22] <erek> zero2XIII: Bezier Curves crashes it for me
[16:22] <erek> adding Bezier Curves to a clip on the timeline crashes kdenlive
[16:22] <zero2XIII> erek: what version are you using that is crashing?
[16:22] <freon> i cant change the keyboard to swedish. when i press '-' i get '/'
[16:22] <erek> zero2XIII: 0.9.6
[16:23] <boogy> I tried to enable hybrid graphics in ubuntu 13.04 and after the reboot it only starts in low-graphic mode :(
[16:23] <erek> zero2XIII: in the ppa sunab kdenlive-release or -svn i don't even get access to Bezier Curves in the effects list
[16:23] <zero2XIII> erek: <IP_ADDRESS> is in the official repros.. for 12.04 atleast. Give that a try maybe?
[16:23] <rookie2030> hi all
[16:23] <zero2XIII> erek: oooh it is due to the bug in another file
[16:23] <erek> zero2XIII: how do i access it? i attempted to list the reverse version available
[16:24] <rookie2030> i have problem to install my nvivia drivers
[16:24] <erek> no reverse versions were liste
[16:24] <erek> d
[16:24] <rookie2030> appears that The Nouveau kernel driver is currently in use by your system
[16:24] <zero2XIII> erek: 2012/05/30 : OpenCV support for frei0r-plugins is disabled for Precise builds due to unresolved problem causing crashes in melt.
[16:24] <rookie2030> on my dell xps 17
[16:24] <zero2XIII> erek: I am not sure, use synaptic and force the version?
[16:24] <daftykins> rookie2030: how did you install the nvidia ones? did you download manually?
[16:25] <erek> zero2XIII: i heard that it only disabled OpenCV, and all the other things should work
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> rookie2030: what CPU do you have?
[16:25] <zero2XIII> erek: Oh.. Still try the older version?
[16:26] <zero2XIII> erek: trying to see how to do it from terminal
[16:26] <zero2XIII> erek: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138284/how-to-downgrade-a-package-via-apt-get
[16:27] <rookie2030> Nvidia GeForce GT 525M
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> rookie2030: no, CPU, not GPU
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> rookie2030: what is the output of: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model\ name
[16:27] <rookie2030> daftykins: i download directly from Nvidia linux x64 drivers
[16:27] <daftykins> rookie2030: yeah that wasn't the best idea really
[16:28] <daftykins> !nvidia | rookie2030
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> rookie2030: you dont need to manually install drivers
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> rookie2030: this isnt windows
[16:28] <erek> zero2XIII: apt-cache showpkg kdenlive reveals i caninstlal 0.8.4unbunt1
[16:28] <erek> zero2XIII: with that build i do not even see Bezier Curves in my effects
[16:28] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: you heard anything about optimus getting into the kernel? (the nvidia combo tech)
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: no idea, I'm avoiding that mess like Paris Hilton avoids talent
[16:28] <zero2XIII> erek: then I have no idea what you can do... Maybe find old source and try to compile?...
[16:29] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: ja, i was telling someone in #xbmc the other day they should go back to Windows on an Optimus system, then someone said it's in the kernel D: might give it a try.
[16:29] <rookie2030> ActionParsnip: Interl core i7
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> rookie2030: which i7 though?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> rookie2030: the command I gave will TELL you
[16:29] <skinnyblondegirl> hello, i need assistance in configuring my touchpad, it is very stick though works but not smooth.  I am have looked around and not sure what needs to be done, i have played around with the setting but to no avail.  I think i may need the drivers but doing a xinput - list it says i have a core xtest pointer.  thank you
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> skinnyblondegirl: what make and model system?
[16:30] <Apostata0> Hi, anyone can help with some C programming ?, i just need suggestions to building a weighted graph
[16:31] <skinnyblondegirl> ActionParsnip: how can i find that out ? ubuntu 12.04 with classic menue, acer ultrabook
[16:31] <benbb> Find what out:?
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> rookie2030: if your CPU has a GPU in it (intel based) then you have an optimus switching GPU system and will need to look into Bumblebee to support it
[16:31] <zero2XIII> Apostata0: I think you should rather join a programming channel?
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> skinnyblondegirl: sudo dmidecode -t 1     will tell you, you can then use that to find guides regarding Linux online for it
[16:32] <MinecraftRocks> guys who likes ubuntu more than windows?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> MinecraftRocks: that is offtopic here
[16:32] <MinecraftRocks> srry
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> MinecraftRocks: try in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[16:32] <Apostata0> zero2XIII: I tried with #C, do you know other programming channels ?
[16:33] <bmxscott1993> do anyone now how do i sort this out only happens on ubuntu 13.04 it frezyes and go like this click the link that the pic of the problem http://goo.gl/yEXT8
[16:33] <wheatthin> when is the next release after 13.04 going to be available?
[16:33] <DJones> !13.10 | wheatthin
[16:33] <zero2XIII> Apostata0: ##C or Server: irc.dal.net Channel: #csupport
[16:34] <DJones> wheatthin: 13.10 = October 2013
[16:35] <wheatthin> DJones, thanks man
[16:35] <bmxscott1993> do any one els get this now and then click the link http://goo.gl/yEXT8 it a pic off the new ubuntu 13.04 frezzing
[16:36] <daftykins> bmxscott1993: are you sure it's not a hardware issue?
[16:36] <bmxscott1993> i no it not never happen when running 12 or 11
[16:37] <bmxscott1993> it only happens on 13
[16:38] <zero2XIII> bmxscott1993, daftykins, those look like overclocked hardware, or really buddy graphics driver install. Happened to me when I OCed my GPU in windows a while back
[16:38] <Apostata0> i have the well known issue with hdmi audio and ubuntu 13.04, i updated kernel and now i have hdmi as output device but it still doesnt works, did i forgot something?
[16:38] <zero2XIII> buggy**
[16:38] <bmxscott1993> ok kl
[16:38] <prasoon> Hello all..... my ubuntu 1304 is installed in a acer laptop. now after it updated through software updater .... none of the accesories including graphis , USB wifi & lan is not working .. Kindly help
[16:39] <bmxscott1993> it run then when im doing stuff now and then it just frezz like that
[16:39] <jY> anyone have any issues with apt-get update hanging on "99% [1 Translation-en_US bzip2 0]"
[16:39] <zero2XIII> jY, nope
[16:40] <zero2XIII> jY, try a different server, such as international server. (main server)
[16:40] <jY> zero2XIII: it's hanging on a local repo.. "stat("/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/repo.domain.net_repo_en%5fUS.decomp", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=0, ...}) = 0"
[16:42] <ForSpareParts> Those of you who do webdev: how do you generally deal with keeping outdated libs in sync between a server environment and your dev environment? My work's on a 10.04 server and I'm doing 13.04 desktop -- there's lots of stuff I need that doesn't exist anymore, and not everything has a PPA.
[16:42] <zero2XIII> jY, sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update
[16:42] <zero2XIII> jy, try that
[16:42] <jY> already did.. no help
[16:43] <jY> it's something with our new repo.. old one works
[16:43] <jY> so i'll poke around there
[16:43] <zero2XIII> jY, then I have no idea.. I would manualy rename the file.. But I do not suggest you do that. Could do serious damage...
[16:44] <jrib> ForSpareParts: run 10.04 in a virtual machine on your work machine and develop on that
[16:44] <zero2XIII> jY, cool
[16:45] <preyalone> How does Ubuntu run on the new MacBook Air?
[16:45] <ForSpareParts> jrib, Suppose I could. Is that really the best solution? My 13.04 is actually a VM itself right now, although I may change that. Most everyone at work is just using OSX to develop, and I'm not really feeling it.
[16:46] <rookie2030> ActionParsnip: model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2720QM CPU @ 2.20GHz
[16:48] <rookie2030> daftykins: its possible to install nvidea drivers
[16:48] <jrib> ForSpareParts: that's the easiest way to match your development environment imo (by actually running the same thing).  To be clear I would still work with my editor and such in 13.04, but I would have the virtual machine setup as a local server for me to deploy and test to
[16:48] <daftykins> rookie2030: i linked you to how.
[16:48] <rookie2030> ill follow al steps
[16:49] <rookie2030> and appers distribution provided pre install script failed
[16:49] <jrib> ForSpareParts: how are the OS X people obtaining and maintaining these old libs that don't exist anymore?
[16:49] <ForSpareParts> jrib, Right, that's what I figured. Doesn't using the VM for everything that make running the server during active development a little difficult, though?
[16:49] <jrgill2> How do I get libnet-dns-perl to 0.72?  I'm on precise and updated.
[16:49] <ForSpareParts> jrib, They're just installing them manually. Tarballs, basically.
[16:50] <ForSpareParts> Difference is just that they have a set of very precise instructions to help them do it.
[16:50] <jrib> ForSpareParts: well you can go that same route (tarballs) I guess, but it will be more of a pain imo.  Why do you think using the vm will be difficult?  I guess it depends on what exactly you are doing
[16:51] <jrib> ForSpareParts: do you want to say specifically what you're working with and what's missing in 13.04?
[16:52] <ForSpareParts> jrib, Done the tarball thing for a few packages already, and it's been profoundly awful. I assumed it would be hard to (for instance) make a change, rerun the server to see it in action, make another change, reload, etc. -- but maybe not, if you're sharing the directory.
[16:53] <ForSpareParts> jrib, There have been several things, but the biggest one so far has been mysql. We're on 1.6.
[16:53] <jrib> ForSpareParts: right, suppose you use tarballs.  What do you do then to test?  You would be doing the same thing, except you're likely sharing a directory on a virtual machine and pointing your browser to the virtual machine's web server instead of a local one
[16:53] <pero_p> hi, i have a problem. i deleted a folder. but after a while the folder come's up!! it's in download folder and i Shift+Delete every time the folder. is this because ext4 needs to be checked?
[16:54] <rhn_mk1> hi! I need to test a vanilla kernel without Ubuntu patches. do I need to compile it from source or can I get it from a repo?
[16:54] <pero_p> and i checked it, but problem still exist!
[16:55] <jrib> rhn_mk1: I guess you can check for PPAs or third party repos but I don't know of any.  Why do you need to test a vanilla kernel?  You have an issue and you suspect an ubuntu patch?  Ubottu has instructions on compiling the kernel the debian/ubuntu way (just change the git repository so you don't get the ubuntu patches)
[16:55] <jrib> !kernel | rhn_mk1
[16:56] <pero_p> ah i found the problem, Transmission make the folder's automatically!
[16:57] <erek> anyone here like Natty Narwhal?
[16:57] <trism> rhn_mk1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[16:57] <jrib> erek: why do you ask? :)
[16:57] <auronandace> !natty | erek
[16:57] <rhn_mk1> jrib, trism: thanks!
[16:58] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | erek
[16:59] <erek> jrib: pretty good release, wasn't it?
[16:59] <jrib> erek: I guess, but do you have a support question?  If you don't and would like to chat instead, please join us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:00] <erek> jrib: trying to get kdenlive 0.8.0 running
[17:00] <jrib> erek: on natty?
[17:00] <erek> yup
[17:00] <jrib> erek: but natty is end-of-life: no more support and no more security upgrades
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> erek: its highly recommended to upgrade or clean install higher versions
[17:01] <Dustin> Hi there. Just installed Ubuntu 13.04 - Having some audio issues, mainly input (microphone, static and background noise). Also, skype isn't allowing me to hear any sound, but a ventrilo alternative (mangler) is working just fine. Any help is appreciated
[17:01] <Dustin> new to linux.
[17:01] <jrib> erek: if you upgrade to a supported release like 12.04 LTS (precise) or 13.04 (raring), we can help you get kdenlive
[17:02] <erek> jrib: what version are you running?
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> Dustin: did you clean install or upgrade?
[17:03] <Dustin> lotuspsychje: clean install
[17:04] <Dustin> have ran all updates, etc
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> Dustin: any drivers list in 'additional drivers ' section?
[17:05] <Dustin> lotuspsychje: I don't see an "additional drivers" anywhere.
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> Dustin: software&updates last tab additional drivers
[17:06] <Dustin> lotuspsychje: nope, none
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> erek: if your pc can handle 13.04 i would recommend it highly
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> Dustin: any logs that can help us find your prob @ /var/log/
[17:06] <Dustin> lotuspsychje: audio works, just having issues with Skype and my microphone having static / background noise.
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> Dustin: how about you start skype from terminal to see whats going on
[17:07] <rookie2030> i just install the nvidia drivers but i see everything big
[17:07] <ThothCastel> I am on the process of configuring an LDAP server on a ubuntu server through the CLI - >https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/openldap-server.html  --- when replacing this olcRootDN: cn=admin,dc=example,dc=com with my own configuration for a domain as procopio.co.uk should I add olcRootDN: cn=admin,dc=procopio,dc=co,dc=uk ????
[17:07] <rookie2030> i think faild x server
[17:07] <ThothCastel> I am getting a syntax error  http://ircshare.com/i/bp
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> ThothCastel: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know it aswell
[17:08] <ThothCastel> lotuspsychje: ok, thanks! I am not getting any responses over there :/
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> ThothCastel: oh nvm then :p
[17:09] <ThothCastel> :)
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> !ldap
[17:09] <Dustin> lotuspsychje: ALSA lib control.c:951:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL iec958:CARD=PCH
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> Dustin: maybe this can help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingGuide
[17:12] <rhn_mk1> jrib: yes, I have a weird problem with a chroot that shows up on ubuntu only. checking if kernel is at fault
[17:13] <ikonia> rhn_mk1: checking the kernel ???
[17:13] <ikonia> rhn_mk1: it's chroot - it has nothing to do with the kernel
[17:14] <rhn_mk1> ikonia: chroot still uses host kernel, and that's pretty much the only thing that's different across distros
[17:14] <ikonia> rhn_mk1: it won't use the kernel
[17:14] <rhn_mk1> (when using a chroot)
[17:14] <ikonia> the kernel is already running....
[17:14] <ikonia> rhn_mk1: and there are MANY more things different in distros
[17:14] <jrib> probably more progress will be made if you just state the issue in case you want an opinion on it, rhn_mk1
[17:15] <rhn_mk1> jrib: well, this is a gentoo chroot. long story short, works fine on top of centos, not quite so on top of ubuntu
[17:16] <ikonia> what do you mean a gentoo chroot
[17:16] <bigroomsmallhous> oh really rhn what do you use ubunutu for?
[17:16] <ikonia> rhn_mk1: please explain what you are actually doing
[17:16] <mbnoimi> is there any GUI tool for managing cron?
[17:17] <rhn_mk1> bigroomsmallhous: ubuntu serves as a host system for an app thet needs gentoo
[17:17] <jrib> mbnoimi: gnome-schedule comes up in a repository search, but I've never used it. We can help you with edit your crontab manually if you tell us what you want to do
[17:17] <ikonia> rhn_mk1: why are you running ubuntu if your application needs gentoo ?
[17:18] <ikonia> rhn_mk1: you'd need to run gentoo if your application "needs" gentoo - or look at what it really needs specfically rather than the genric term "gentoo"
[17:18] <rhn_mk1> ikonia: this is not the only application on the system. it needs portage :P
[17:18] <ikonia> I'd doubt very much that it "needs" gentoo rather than just a specific component in a specific way
[17:18] <mbnoimi> jrib: I want to make backup by Areca but I need scheduler to do that
[17:19] <jrib> mbnoimi: I don't know what areca is.  Would you like help editing your crontab?
[17:19] <Dustin> lotuspsychje: one more issue, if you don't mind. 'sudo apt-get update', I get this: W: GPG error: https://download.01.org Ubuntu Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 8D8847D52F4AAA66
[17:19] <mbnoimi> jrib: http://www.areca-backup.org/
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> Dustin: not sure mate, seems like a weird https
[17:22] <Dustin> lotuspsychje: thanks anyways, cheers.
[17:22] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: it's the intel open source site
[17:22] <OerHeks> Dustin you need to add that key, from intel driver i956-va > https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/13.04/main/dists/Ubuntu/13.04/binary-i386/Packages but i do not know how
[17:23] <bigroomsmallhous> why would you use portage
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> daftkins: ah ic tnx
[17:24] <bigroomsmallhous> just joking you dont need to answer that ;)
[17:29] <linux_is_my_hero> i cannot get my brother MFC drivers to install on ubuntu because there is an error satisfying dependancies :-(
[17:29] <simogiovi> !ciao
[17:29] <simogiovi> lista
[17:30] <Kenjin> Hello
[17:30] <TheLordOfTime> how do i flush the DNS cacher in ubuntu (if any)
[17:30] <linux_is_my_hero> hello :-)
[17:30] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: can you use a pastebin site to share the error?
[17:30] <mbnoimi> jrib: I tried to add a new task to cron but it didn't run it
[17:30] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: coming right up :-)
[17:31] <mbnoimi> jrib: I'm using KDE Task Scheduler
[17:32] <mbnoimi> jrib: here is task properties: http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3526/lyxi.jpg
[17:32] <n0sf3rathus> hello,I'm trying to make an ubuntu based distribution, i need some information about the process of build the repository, excuse my english
[17:33] <rhn_mk1> how to make grub menu show up at boot?
[17:33] <SolarisBoy> TheLordOfTime: depends on the caching method, or even where you think your seeing the cache at (it may just be an application cache like a browser).
[17:33] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/nTFXzR1U
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> rhn_mk1, tap the shift key
[17:33] <OerHeks> rhn_mk1, hold shift @ boot
[17:34] <rhn_mk1> thanksk
[17:34] <rhn_mk1> *thanks
[17:34] <TheLordOfTime> SolarisBoy:  whatever it is in a default 12.04 install that listens on port 53 on localhost IPs.
[17:34] <wilee-nilee> n0sf3rathus, You wll have to remove any reference to ubuntu in your build, and this is the wrong place for your endeavors.
[17:34] <SolarisBoy> TheLordOfTime: i believe that network manager of late started pulling in dnsmasq as a local caching server (not sure what release that happened in) -
[17:35] <TheLordOfTime> SolarisBoy:  then how do i flush dnsmasq
[17:35] <SolarisBoy> TheLordOfTime: restart that service if you have an init script - if you don't restarting network manager should do it - but be a little extreme.
[17:35] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: can you pastebin "ls /boot" please?
[17:35] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: oh also "df -h" in the same one if you can
[17:35] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: sure :-)
[17:36] <TheLordOfTime> SolarisBoy:  yeah, restarting network-manager in the middle of an rsync to a remote server
[17:36] <TheLordOfTime> yeahno
[17:36] <SolarisBoy> ? maybe you should think of using the --partial option =)
[17:37] <SolarisBoy> but otherwise - i guess your keeping your cache then.
[17:37] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/dVjjFLNZ
[17:37] <SolarisBoy> unless of course you can restart dnsmasq seperately (which you should be able to) i believe you have the dnsmasq package installed normally
[17:38] <kodiak99> Has anyone else had trouble with 13.04 not recognizing your password for authentication?
[17:39] <n0sf3rathus> Thanks <wilee-nilee>, you can indicate me a channel ?
[17:39] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: authentication? be more precise please?
[17:39] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: from your install log i could see it ran out of space on /boot "gzip: stdout: No space left on device" so you can see there are lots of older kernels installed that you can free up some space with, can you run "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.8.0-19-generic linux-image-3.8.0-21-generic linux-image-3.8.0-22-generic linux-image-3.8.0-23-generic" to remove the old, or does it error?
[17:40] <linux_is_my_hero> i will try those commands and pastebin the results
[17:41] <OerHeks> kodiak99, you return to login again ? might be an old upgrade bug, wrong owner .Xauthority >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/189399/cannot-get-past-login-screen
[17:41] <kodiak99> whenever I try to install a deb or program from the software center, it refuses to accept my correctly typed password.
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> n0sf3rathus, Not really there is no channel for that, that I know of.
[17:41] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: is it a clean install or an upgrade?
[17:42] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: when ubuntu does an update, do I have to manually remove old outdated files from the terminal?
[17:42] <kodiak99> when i go into the passwords program to see what my password is it shows some random 128+ character password.
 ,  ok, thanks any way.
[17:42] <kodiak99> it is a clean install
[17:42] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: terminal still working...
[17:43] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: no, it's only with kernels really when a new version gets put on it leaves all the old ones there. over time it fills up. on my server installs i tend to reboot into the new ones and then remove the old (to confirm the new one boots correctly)
[17:43] <rhn_mk1> okay... how to make grub menu always show up? hard to hit the right moment
[17:43] <xee> i have a problem and that is i have xubuntu 13.10 but the problem is that i can't hear to audio.. i think audio drivers are missing can anybody tell me hoe to install them?
[17:43] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/PH8fJSY3
[17:43] <reisio> rhn_mk1: to hold shift, you mean?
[17:44] <DJones> !13.10 | xee
[17:44] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: sounds like you really know your stuff
[17:44] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: in terminal, do any sudo command work? try "sudo -i && whoami" and tell me what it says
[17:44] <rhn_mk1> reisio: yup, the time window is too short
[17:44] <ikonia> rhn_mk1: setting in the grub config, from memory I think it's hiddenmenu - but you'll need to check that
[17:44] <ikonia> rhn_mk1: also set the timeout to a value you want in the grub config, eg: timeout=25
[17:44] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: naaah just a tiny bit of CLI management :)
[17:44] <daftykins> rhn_mk1: edit /etc/default/grub to add a timeout
[17:44] <reisio> 25 your grandmammy could handle
[17:44] <reisio> 5 should suffice
[17:44] <rhn_mk1> will try, thanks
[17:44] <xee> ok i have the latest version of xubuntu but i don't have drivers for audio
[17:45] <xee> but my microphone i working
[17:45] <ikonia> rhn_mk1: you'll have to rebuild the config once you've updated /etc/default/grub - that is not the file config file, that's the recipe for the config file
[17:45] <xee> is*
[17:45] <rhn_mk1> ikonia: yeah, that's why I weas asking. thought maybe some program will do it with 1 click for me
[17:45] <kodiak99> it identifies me and asks for my password.
[17:45] <SARC> I am having some trouble with /etc/sysctl.conf.  I have uncommented the like with kernel.printk and rebooted... still receiving kernel messages.  I also changed the levels to all zeroes (kernel.printk 0 0 0 0) and rebooted... still receiving kernel messages.  Am I missing a step?
[17:45] <ikonia> rhn_mk1: no, it's a text file, just update the receipe then rebuild the config file from that
[17:46] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: exactly, does your password work there? and after it worked, what is the output of the "whoami" command?
[17:46] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: if it's busily removing those kernels fine, you can run "sudo apt-get -f install" afterwards
[17:46] <kodiak99> it doesn't take my password there either.
[17:46] <xee> hi, i have xubuntu latest version installed but i cant listen to songs i think audio drivers are missing.. but my microphone is working
[17:47] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: then the user you are using does not have sudo rights
[17:47] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: or admin rights...
[17:47] <kodiak99> ok then what changed
[17:47] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: this is what it did when i removed the old stuff http://pastebin.com/PH8fJSY3
[17:47] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: ill PM you
[17:47] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: running the new commands now
[17:47] <kodiak99> this all started 1 or 2 updates ago (a few days ago)
[17:48] <svendarm> so how do i set keyboard to swedish with setxkbmap*btw im freon on my linyx vm(
[17:48] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: did you get my PM
[17:48] <DJones> xee: Please double check, you said you were using Ubuntu 13.10 which is a development version and is supported in #ubuntu+1
[17:49] <ikonia> zero2XIII: why do you need to pm him - just tell him in the channel
[17:49] <oblio> halo
[17:49] <zero2XIII> ikonia: to much copy paste? do not want to flood the channel>
[17:49] <zero2XIII> ?
[17:49] <ikonia> zero2XIII: then use a pastebin
[17:49] <bean__> zero2XIII: then use a pastebin
[17:49] <bean__> ha
[17:49] <ikonia> !pastebin | zero2XIII and give the url to the channel
[17:50] <oblio> i just installed ubuntu on a system which has a radeon hd 6xxx and a radeon hd 5xxx that i've traditionally done dualhead on. it's painfully slow, when i use the 5xxx screen my cpu load shoots up. if i only run on the 6xxx screen it's fine. i was previously running debian and this wasnt the case.
[17:50] <zero2XIII> Okay I will do that, ikonia, bean__
[17:51] <kodiak99> why would I suddenly not have admin rights?  I am the only user on this computer.
[17:52] <ikonia> kodiak99: normally a user error/you've made a mistake
[17:52] <kodiak99> ok
[17:52] <reisio> kodiak99: why would you suddenly think you haven't
[17:52] <ikonia> kodiak99: or you've upgraded your distro and the swap from admin group to wheel group did not work
[17:52] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: I am not sure.. please do: "cat /etc/group" and pastebin it and paste link here
[17:52] <ikonia> don't bother catting /etc/group
[17:52] <ikonia> open a terminal, type "id"
[17:52] <ikonia> show the channel that one line
[17:53] <svendarm> can someone please explain to me how to use setxkbmap_
[17:53] <kodiak99> I don't understand what that means.
[17:53] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: here is the new result http://pastebin.com/CZkbk9Xn
[17:54] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: ok, another one to run after removing old kernels to save a bit more disk space is 'sudo apt-get autoremove' so you can run that to get rid of the kernel header packages from the no-longer installed ones
[17:55] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: then after that i'd run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' to be sure everything's fully up to date, then you can go back to trying that Brother install
[17:55] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: okay :-)
[17:56] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: simply hit "ctrl+alt+t" and then a terminal should open up and then type "id" and press enter
[17:57] <mrguser> mrmguser
[17:57] <kodiak99> no I meant the pastebin thing.  but I just kinda figured it out ant created a pastebin account.  now what?
[17:58] <daftykins> kodiak99: you don't need an account to paste. http://paste.ubuntu.com
[17:58] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: no need if you just copy paste the output generated by running id in terminal... pastebin is used for multi line outputs
[17:59] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: the output should look like this: uid=1000(zeroburn) gid=1000(zeroburn) groups=1000(zeroburn),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),29(audio),30(dip),46(plugdev),109(lpadmin),113(netdev),124(sambashare)
[17:59] <kodiak99> ok I just pasted the output of id
[18:00] <ikonia> kodiak99: ok, so you are in the sudo group - looks good
[18:00] <ikonia> kodiak99: so why do you think you don't have admin capabilities ?
[18:00] <zero2XIII> ikonia: that is my output
[18:00] <ikonia> oops sorry
[18:00] <kodiak99> because it won't accept my password for authentication
[18:00] <ikonia> kodiak99: paste the line from your machine
[18:01] <zero2XIII> ikonia: lol no worries.. You help him, its confusing if more then one tries
[18:01] <kodiak99> ok so who am i talking to now?
[18:02] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: to inkonia
[18:02] <ikonia> kodiak99: just put the line in the channel so all can see
[18:02] <wornwinter> Hey, just installed Ubuntu, and have a slight problem. I'm unable to get my m-audio projectmix to work. Already tried building ffado from source with no luck. Anyone ever got this card working?
[18:02] <kodiak99> my ID line?
[18:02] <ikonia> kodiak99: come on , I've asked multiple times now
[18:02] <ikonia> the one line from the output of the command "id"
[18:02] <kodiak99> andrew@andrew-VPCCW21FX:~$ id uid=1000(andrew) gid=1000(andrew) groups=1000(andrew),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),108(lpadmin),117(nopasswdlogin),124(sambashare) andrew@andrew-VPCCW21FX:~$
[18:03] <ikonia> this doesn't look like an ubuntu machine
[18:03] <ikonia> kodiak99: please show me the output of the command uname -a
[18:03] <zero2XIII> wornwinter: what are you trying to use it for?
[18:04] <kodiak99> -a: command not found
[18:04] <ikonia> kodiak99: uname -a
[18:04] <ikonia> kodiak99: PLEASE read what you are being told to do
[18:04] <wornwinter> zero2XIII: I just want stereo audio output from it. Just have linux for programming/tinkering.
[18:04] <kodiak99> Linux andrew-VPCCW21FX 3.8.0-25-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 20:47:07 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:04] <wornwinter> Just for some music or something while I work
[18:05] <ikonia> kodiak99: ok, that's great, now please type "sudo apt-get update" does that command work or give you errors ?
[18:05] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: I got libs-32ia to install.  unfortunately, now the brother drivers are still having trouble: http://pastebin.com/vLzKtwkq
[18:06] <kodiak99> andrew@andrew-VPCCW21FX:~$ sudo apt-get update [sudo] password for andrew:  Sorry, try again. [sudo] password for andrew:  Sorry, try again. [sudo] password for andrew:
[18:06] <zero2XIII> wornwinter: I have the m-audio profire 610 and it doesnt work with linux...
[18:06] <zero2XIII> wornwinter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire
[18:06] <kodiak99> won't take my password
[18:06] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: i'm guessing from the code that the LPR driver file left over from last time is still there and its trying to overwrite it, but I don't know what "unknown job: lpd" means
[18:06] <ikonia> kodiak99: what do you mean, won't take your password
[18:06] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: hrmm not so sure on whether that's an issue i'm afraid. are you sure that's the best approach to set up that model printer with Ubuntu?
[18:06] <freon> what can i do with ubuntu to teach myself about linux?
[18:06] <ikonia> freon: anything you want,
[18:06] <wornwinter> zero2XIII: It sucks pretty bad. First piece of hardware I've had that linux doesn't seem to support.
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Wornwinter: what is the output of :    wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[18:07] <kodiak99> I correctly type the only password that I have ever used on this system and it won't accept it
[18:07] <zero2XIII> wornwinter: is your device shown in alsa mixer? There is a tromendous work around.. But it really is a huge task
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Freon: how did you learn to use Windows?
[18:07] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: I'm not sure if that is the best way.  I'm just using the manufacturer's instructions as a baseline, but I am open to other routes :-)
[18:07] <nnnniiihjiuhui> first time on irc!!!
[18:07] <wornwinter> zero2XIII: It isn't no.
[18:07] <wornwinter> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=9f50e640f309df6a400499bd61885d521b435907
[18:07] <wornwinter> that was the output btw
[18:08] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: ah - do you have a link to that guide?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Kodiak99: you don't get feedback but the password is being typed
[18:08] <ikonia> kodiak99 do you need a password to login to the system, or does it do automatic login
[18:08] <linux_is_my_hero> sure, here it is http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/instruction_prn1a.html
[18:08] <kodiak99> automatic login
[18:08] <ikonia> kodiak99 your password is wrong then
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Kodiak99: you still have a password even if you autologin
[18:09] <zero2XIII> wornwinter: have a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation
[18:09] <kodiak99> my password is one press of the spacebar.  it's hard to type incorrectly.
[18:09] <ikonia> kodiak99: no, it's not
[18:10] <ikonia> kodiak99: that password is wrong
[18:10] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: did you do the 'pre-required procedure (3)' bits where it's creating symbolic links with "ln -s /etc/init.d/cups /etc/init.d/lpd" ?
[18:10] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: no :-D
[18:10] <svendarm> ikonia(im freon btw): yes but i want to learn the kernel. i have downloaded the source code but i would like to get my hands dirty programmign something. is there much conceptual difference programming linux as opposed to programming windows?
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Wornwinter : if you run : alsamixer , is the right device selected for output? Also check in the sound application in Dash and do the same.  You will need F6 in alsamixer
[18:10] <ikonia> svendarm: what languages do you program in ?
[18:10] <kodiak99> i agree, but the question is what changed my password to a random string of 100+ characters
[18:11] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: "failed to create symbolic link...file exists" what does that mean?
[18:11] <ikonia> kodiak99 who said it changed to a random string of 100 chars ?
[18:11] <wornwinter> zero2XIII: I've already seen that, I ended up having to download and build ffado from source, just to see if I could get some support, but it couldn't see the card. (It's firewire)
[18:11] <svendarm> ikonia: C, Python, Haskell, Java, and more
[18:11] <wornwinter> I think I may have been defeated here lol
[18:11] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: that it's trying to link one to another but both already exist
[18:11] <kodiak99> the passwords program in the system settings menu
[18:11] <ikonia> svendarm: best thing to do is go to launchpad.net find a bug - see if you can fix it, it will move from then
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Kodiak99 : that doesn't happen.  I suggest you reboot to root recovery console and set a half decent password
[18:11] <ikonia> kodiak99: the password program doesn't show you your password
[18:12] <zero2XIII> wornwinter: where did it first fail?
[18:12] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: run it again but instead of -s use -fs
[18:12] <kodiak99> mine does or I am describing the program wrong
[18:12] <ikonia> kodiak99: you're password program does not show you the password
[18:12] <ikonia> kodiak99: I suggest you reset your password and your problem will go away
[18:12] <nnnniiihjiuhui> is anyone seeing this??? first time on irc.
[18:12] <wornwinter> zero2XIII: ffado runs fine, just doesn't detect the card once it starts discovering. The projectmix itself is okay, works in windows. It's defo a compatibility problem.
[18:12] <ikonia> nnnniiihjiuhui: people can see
[18:13] <daftykins> nnnniiihjiuhui: yes hi.
[18:13] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: i ran it with -fs and it said permission denied so i repeated it with "sudo" and nothing came out.  what does that mean?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Wornwinter : also try: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse* , wait ten seconds and reboot
[18:13] <reisio> daftykins is a good nick
[18:13] <kodiak99> i have done that too, but it still doesn't take my new password and when I reboot it shows that random sting again
[18:13] <zero2XIII> wornwinter: it seems it is not supported: http://ffado.org/?q=devicesupport%2Flist&filter0=M-audio&filter1=&op2=OR
[18:13]  * MAITY slaps zwiep` around a bit with a large E63-1
[18:13] <bigroomsmallhous> nnniiiiii seeing what
[18:13] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: that means it worked perfectly. you can re-run the dpkg -i on the .deb now
[18:13] <reisio> ActionParsnip: what's the waiting for? :D
[18:13] <nnnniiihjiuhui> no private messages??
[18:13] <ikonia> MAITY: please don't do that
[18:14] <kodiak99> string
[18:14] <MAITY> ok
[18:14] <ikonia> nnnniiihjiuhui: we can see what you are typing
[18:14] <wornwinter> zero2XIII: Yeah I saw, was just hoping someone had worked out some sort of hacky workaround.
[18:14] <daftykins> reisio: are you being sincere? :P
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Kodiak99 : try: gksudo apt-get update
[18:14] <reisio> daftykins: yup
[18:14] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: same error :-( "unknown job:ldp"
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Reisio: lets pulseaudio restart automatically and regenerate the default configs
[18:15] <reisio> that's creepy
[18:15] <zero2XIII> Seems unlikely.. If the BASE software does not support it, it is unlikely it will work with a hackaround :(... But I see mine is now "reported to work"... its been a few months since I last checked... maybe you will be lucky
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Reisio: what is creepy?
[18:15] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: is it network or USB attached?
[18:16] <reisio> ActionParsnip: daemons
[18:16] <zero2XIII> wornwinter: but I am envious.. I wanted that interface, but the shop I buy from couldn't get it for like 3 months and i really needed to mix a 5.1 channel show.. so I got the 610
[18:16] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: USB attached
[18:16] <xwix> slt
 it won't take my password to perform that action
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Reisio : the service is told to automatically restart if it dies. The command to kill the process is needed to unlock the files. When it restarts (like most Linux apps) if no configuration is there then defaults are instated
[18:18] <reisio> ActionParsnip: like a daemon? :p
[18:18] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: i found a possibly helpful link http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=95462
[18:18] <wornwinter> zero2XIII: It's a fantastic interface, paid a small fortune for it a year or two ago! I'll check out the 610, haven't heard of it before.
[18:18] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: cool :-)
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Kodiak99 : I would reset your password using root recovery
[18:19] <kodiak99> ok how do I do that?
[18:19] <wornwinter> zero2XIII: What sort of audio work do you do?
[18:19] <nnnniiihjiuhui> #
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> kodiak99, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Kodiak99 : hold SHIFT at boot and select recovery mode then root. Once you get the prompt, run: passwd foo; reboot
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Kodiak99 : eg: passwd dave; reboot
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Kodiak99 : having space as a password will make things awkward.  Why such a dumb password?
[18:21] <Takagami> ActionParsnip: And that is exactly why I have a BIOS password and Do not allow anything other than HDD to boot....
[18:22] <kodiak99> because i didn't wnat a password to begin with, but I have not found a way to dod taht.
[18:22] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: I'm having trouble with the command "aa-complain," do you know anything about it?
[18:22] <kodiak99> want that
[18:22] <ActionParsnip>  Takagami: remove cmos battery and password goes bye bye
[18:22] <jmagunduni> guys i am using Ubuntu 13.10 , i have a problem with network manager applet. It disappear  sometimes . please help :-(
[18:22] <linux_is_my_hero> ubuntu+1
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Kodiak99 : once the OS is setup you don't need it much at all.
[18:23] <jmagunduni> sorry 13.04
[18:23] <Takagami> Yeah... kinda hard to do on most laptops though... ;-)
[18:23] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: never heard of it i'm afraid
[18:23] <nnnniiihjiuhui> ikonia:
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Takagami: depends on ability
[18:23] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: yeah, i may just take this thing back and get the HP instead.
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Jmagunduni: what is the output of : uname -a
[18:24] <Takagami> ActionParsnip: Indeed...
[18:24] <kodiak99> I wish I knew how to make it not use passwords, but it always asks me for authentication whenever I want to do something it considers major.
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> kodiak99  that's called "security"
[18:24] <nnnniiihjiuhui> ikonia: did you get the beep
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Kodiak99 : yes its called security.  Remember the target audience of your OS
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> kodiak99, The password and a good one are part of the safety of using linux, get used to it. ;)
[18:25] <nnnniiihjiuhui> best irc for ubuntu??
[18:26] <kodiak99> well I'll give this a try.  thanks for your help everyone.
[18:26] <DJones> !best | nnnniiihjiuhui
[18:26] <daftykins> nnnniiihjiuhui: there is no best, just what works for you
[18:26] <DJones> !irc | nnnniiihjiuhui
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> Nnniihjiuhui: your question is as intelligent as asking "what is the best colour of the rainbow"
[18:27] <jmagunduni> ActionParsnip:Linux joshua-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC 3.8.0-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 16 15:17:14 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:27] <syntroPi> how can i  use the acount-plugins from the online accounts? its totaly empty??
[18:27] <openfire> :D
[18:27] <ikonia> nnnniiihjiuhui: get a beep ?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> Nnniihjiuhui : if there was a 'best' the others would cease to be as nobody would use the others.  Think about it
[18:28] <nnnniiihjiuhui> i'm trying empathy.
[18:28] <ikonia> nnnniiihjiuhui: this channel is for ubuntu support - if you need help with something just ask the channel
[18:29] <syntroPi> yeah exactly with empathy: i cant enter any account information in online accounts the dialogue is empty??
[18:30] <syntroPi> is there a config file somewhere for the online accounts from ubuntu?
[18:30] <syntroPi> the gui is broken
[18:30] <nnnniiihjiuhui> how do you address users here..i'm on webchat.freenode.net.
[18:30] <syntroPi> just include exact name string in your message
[18:30] <ikonia> nnnniiihjiuhui: you just say their name
[18:30] <ikonia> nnnniiihjiuhui: eg: as I am doing to you
[18:31] <nnnniiihjiuhui> ikonia: that is what i asked. "did you get beep".
[18:31] <ikonia> nnnniiihjiuhui: there is no "beep"
[18:31] <ikonia> nnnniiihjiuhui: hence why what you've said doesn't make sense
[18:32] <openfire> :D
[18:32] <svendarm> wow, how long does eclipse take to install?
[18:32] <syntroPi> nnnniiihjiuhui, i like to use xchat2 for irc on ubuntu, but thats my preference only
[18:32] <ikonia> svendarm sepends on many things
[18:32] <nnnniiihjiuhui> ikonia: well, I get beep.
[18:32] <ikonia> nnnniiihjiuhui: "great"
[18:34] <nnnniiihjiuhui> ikonia: which is your client
[18:34] <ikonia> nnnniiihjiuhui: it doesn't matter what I use
[18:34] <svendarm> what dies "[2] 18780" mean in response to starting eclipse like so "eclipse &"
[18:35] <nnnniiihjiuhui> anybody using empathy irc here?
[18:35] <ikonia> nnnniiihjiuhui: why don't you just ask the question you want fixing
[18:35] <ikonia> svendarm that's just the process id
[18:35] <openfire> m using mirggi
[18:36] <openfire> :|
[18:36] <svendarm> hmm so slow, maybe 1GB of memory is to little for eclipse these days?
[18:36] <TheUsD> can someone tell me what this means? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5787579/
[18:36] <ikonia> it's quite a hungry machine and the minimum requirement for ubuntu is 1GB these days too I think
[18:37] <ikonia> TheUsD: the file is not valid and we will not help you with cracked software, so please don't ask again
[18:37] <TheUsD> I don't care if its cracked or not (its not cracked btw, I use it on my windows PC and its a trial program)
[18:38] <ikonia> TheUsD: do not ask again
[18:38] <TheUsD> I'm just confused on ubuntu on what it means
[18:38] <svendarm> is it only in C the OS really matters these days? and C++. in java,python etc there are language level constructs or interfaces to threads and semaphores etc?
[18:38] <openfire> .
[18:38] <Pici> TheUsD: Contact Wing support then.
[18:38] <TheUsD> its the same steps whether I get it from the website or another place
[18:38] <DJones> TheUsD: Its name includes "cracked"
[18:39] <DJones> !piracy | TheUsD
[18:39] <syntroPi> anyone got online user accounts  in system settings working?
[18:39] <TheUsD> They do not give free support to their trial programs
[18:39] <ikonia> TheUsD: enough - drop it now please.
[18:39] <TheUsD> -_- its not pirated software/
[18:39] <ikonia> TheUsD: last warning
[18:39] <TheUsD> again, its not pirated...
[18:39] <Pici> TheUsD: There are FOSS ftp and sftp servers available in the repositories. If you want help with those will be glad to help you.
[18:40] <TheUsD> Pici: I like the wing FTP program, I use it on my windows PC. I was wanting to see how stable it is on a Linux box.
[18:40] <DJones> TheUsD: The name of the file even tells us who cracked it, please do not ask about it again
[18:40] <ikonia> TheUsD: I've just downloaded it from wing - that is not the trial version file name - so drop it now
[18:41] <TheUsD> ikonia: no you didn't or you would see that I am right.
[18:42] <nnnniiihjiuhui> i'm learning to build a gnome applet from http://www.znasibov.info/blog/html/2009/02/25/gnome_applet_with_python_part_1.html . /usr/lib/bonobo/servers is not there in ubuntu 12.04
[18:42] <TheUsD> Crude is not a real cracking crack, I use it on the windows machine, its still a 30 day trial. after that it shuts the service down every 2 hours.
[18:43] <DJones> TheUsD: Enough, we can all google the file name and see who's cracked and released it
[18:43] <TheUsD> then you should learn how to google better... -_-
[18:44] <uuser123>  hi.. After a partial upgrade, to fix which I removed the ubuntu-desktop package, ubuntu won't boot. Just shows a blank screen. Help?
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> uuser123, That is a bit of a confusing description.
[18:47] <Dustin> New install of ubuntu 13.04, can't hear any sound on Skype at all and cannot capture my voice. Sound is working everywhere else though, same with voice being captured, any help is appreciated
[18:47] <reisio> uuser123: partial upgrade no good
[18:47] <uuser123> wilee-nilee: I am booting in using a livecd, if you need anything please ask
[18:48] <uuser123> to identify the issue
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> reisio, Heh, sounds like a cave man response, but quite accurate. ;)
[18:48] <Schroeder> Hello.
[18:48] <Schroeder> You should really be usng Slackware.
[18:48] <DJones> Schroeder: Please don't troll
[18:48] <Schroeder> DJones: please don't make pointless requests to not do something that was never done.
[18:49] <DJones> Schroeder: This is Ubuntu support, please stay on topic
[18:49] <bazhang> Schroeder, thats enough
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> uuser123, I need nothing, the channel needs a accurate description, with details.
[18:49] <openfire> :D
[18:50] <Steveyray> Hi, can someone tell me what this error means? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5787623/
[18:51] <daftykins> and then it was that the OPS WOKE UP
[18:51] <uuser123> okay. I had some issues with updates, so I tried a partial upgrade. that wasnt working and on a launchpad page i read to remove the ubuntu-desktop package. The upgrade worked and told me to reboot the system, and I did. once the computer starts and post grub, it goes into a black screen and stops responding
[18:53] <nn> the folder /usr/lib/bonobo/servers mentioned in http://goo.gl/lJQ1C does not exist in ubuntu 12.04. is there any equivalent folder?
[18:55] <svendarm> int pthread_create(pthread_t *thread, const pthread_attr_t *attr,
[18:55] <svendarm>                    void *(*start_routine) (void *), void *arg);
[18:55] <svendarm> unsure about that void *(*start_routine)
[18:55] <svendarm> is that a double pointer?
[18:56] <reisio> svendarm: #friendly-coders
[18:57] <ampoz> Hi, I've done a fresh ubuntu server 12.04 install and used 200GB of my 512GB for the automatic/guided LVM setup. I'd like to create a second volume group from the free space left over. I assume I have to create a primary partition from the free space and then make a new volume group out of it? I've google'd but tbh I'm having trouble finding proper info on how to do this (i'm sure there's a
[18:57] <ampoz> tutorial somewhere, but I just can't seem to find atm). Could anyone point me in the right direction? thanks!
[18:58] <bobbyd_> svendarm, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1352426/why-does-start-routine-for-pthread-create-return-void-and-take-void
[18:58] <aamer> hello room
[18:59] <reisio> ampoz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm
[19:03] <aamer> I'm using grsync, why does it insist on creating a directory inside the destination directory and put files in there?
[19:03] <nr_> any idea how to setup irc on empathy?
[19:06] <mike_> Hi
[19:06] <Guest21203> There is some quistion
[19:07] <Guest21203> blue tooth is not working  on ubuntu 13.04
[19:07] <Magicarp> I'm having issues with the log in screen. I can't log out and switch my DE. If I switch my tty how can I start gnome classic (only other DE I have installed)?
[19:08] <svendarm> if i declare a local var v in a function then return its address, isnt thta dangerous since it will be invalid outside the function?
[19:09] <nrthedreamer> this place is nice
[19:09] <Guest21203> please someone answer me why bluetooth is not working on ubuntu 13.04
[19:09] <erek> how do i install the "deb" command?
[19:10] <erek> ppa:sunab is suggesting i use deb in ubuntu
[19:10] <erek> for kdenlive
[19:10] <nrthedreamer> erek:
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> Magicarp, What do you see if you logout?
[19:11] <debian-n00b> erek: deb is just a file extention use dpkg
[19:11] <erek> dpkg doesn't seem to work how he shows it
[19:11] <erek> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/sunab/kdenlive-release/ubuntu raring main
[19:12] <erek> i replace deb with a dpkg equivalent and it doesn't work
[19:12] <erek> dpkg -i http://ppa.launchpad.net/sunab/kdenlive-release/ubuntu raring main
[19:12] <erek>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[19:12] <Guest21203> please is there someone knows how to solve the bluetooth problem in ubuntu ? please show me how ..
[19:12] <erek> etc
[19:12] <syntroPi> erek add that one in software sources
[19:12] <bobbyd_> Guest21203, what are you trying to connect?
[19:13] <syntroPi> its the repo address
[19:13] <debian-n00b> yeah it's a repo address
[19:13] <leoquant> how to disable avahi-daemon on ubuntu 13.04?
[19:13] <syntroPi> and deb is correct
[19:13] <erek> so, apt-add-repository  http://ppa.launchpad.net/sunab/kdenlive-release/ubuntu raring main
[19:13] <erek> ???
[19:13] <debian-n00b> you need to add it to your repo list
[19:13] <syntroPi> do you have that software sources gui ?
[19:14] <Guest21203> Mobile
[19:14] <isank> hi guys
[19:14] <bazhang> erek, this still natty?
[19:14] <isank> need some serious help urgently
[19:14] <erek> bazhang: raring now
[19:14] <isank> could u guys please help me
[19:14] <bazhang> !addppa | erek
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> !help | isank
[19:15] <isank> hi wilee
[19:15] <syntroPi> erek that software and updates dialogue gui: goto other software then add it "deb .... blah blubb"
[19:15] <DJones> erek: If you read https://launchpad.net/~sunab/+archive/kdenlive-release that tells you how to correctly add the ppa to your repositories
[19:15] <oblio> !addppa oblio
[19:15] <debian-n00b> erek: add  it to /etc/apt/source.list
[19:15] <oblio> how come my system doesnt have add-apt-repository?
[19:15] <syntroPi> apt-add
[19:16] <erek> for some reason i can't see Bezier Curves in kdenlive effect list
[19:16] <foobArrr> problem with 12.04 and disk encryption: I just installed 12.04, the (alternate) installer froze for several minutes after asking for the luks passphrase, but afterwards installation went normal. now the installed system also freezes at boot for about 40 seconds after the luks passphrase prompt. any ideas? ( you can see the delay in bootchart, cryptsetup seems to use one cpu core from second 15 to 55: http://s3.imgimg.de/uploads/itxprecise201306211425e0
[19:16] <foobArrr> 734png.png )
[19:16] <Global_Radio> would anyone be able to let me know how to install this??; i read the README and INSTALL files but they give no clue on what file(s) to download
[19:17] <Global_Radio> https://github.com/zhum/simpleweather-screensaver
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> !details > Global_Radio
[19:17] <isank> i want to install or atleast try ubuntu or xubuntu on my sony vaio laptop but i am not able to do so because i get a blank blinking screen
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset > isank
[19:17] <reisio> isank: alt install image
[19:18] <Global_Radio> wilee-nilee, the file is (supposed to be) here --> https://github.com/zhum/simpleweather-screensaver
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> the alt is a netload now is all.
[19:18] <bazhang> reisio, no more alt
[19:18] <minimec> isank: Sony vayos are 'very special'
[19:18] <syntroPi> Global_Radio, try something like "make" then "sudo checkinstall"
[19:18] <syntroPi> also make sure you have all dependencies
[19:19] <isank> sorry wilee but the nomodest thing is not working and only thing i get is a simple command prompt instead of try or install
[19:19] <Global_Radio> syntroPi, what file do I download from that page, though>
[19:19] <Global_Radio> ?
[19:19] <syntroPi> Global_Radio, all of them
[19:19] <minimec> y experience was, that the better once are very tuned. They are bleeding fast, but difficutlt with linux.
[19:19] <minimec> isank: Do you have a dual GPU intel/ATI Intel/Nvidia?
[19:20] <syntroPi> Global_Radio, use git or click at ZIP
[19:20] <reisio> bazhang: really? ew
[19:21] <syntroPi> Global_Radio, not sure if you can have that on raring: Requirements: gtk+-2.0 dbus-glib-1 dbus-1 glib-2.0, cairo.
[19:21] <isank> @minimec : amd radeon is my graphics card
[19:21] <Global_Radio> syntroPi, what is raring?
[19:21] <syntroPi> Global_Radio, the -dev packages are the ones you need to compile that
[19:21] <jordan4ibanez> For 13.10, can fdutils be added? And can the normal user be added to the floppy group?
[19:21] <jordan4ibanez> This is how to get floppy drives working in ubuntu.
[19:21] <jordan4ibanez> Without this, using dosbox is a nightmare.
[19:22] <Global_Radio> syntroPi, what does that mean? I can't install that screensaver?
[19:22] <DJones> jordan4ibanez: Probably best if you ask that in #ubuntu+1 Thats the support channel for 13.10 until its released in October
[19:22] <jordan4ibanez> Actually, without this, using floppy drives in general is a horrific nightmare.
[19:22] <wjoosh> jordan4ibanez: Why do you need DOSBox? Doesn't wine work?
[19:22] <isank> minimec
[19:22] <minimec> isank: And what Processor? And... Do you haveone or two harddrives?
[19:22] <jordan4ibanez> Because I play dos games. And I put data on my special floppy disks.
[19:23] <isank> core i5 3210M single harddrive 750 gb
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> i use dosbox for old games
[19:23] <wjoosh> jordan4ibanez: I find dos games - really old ones - they work fine with WINE. If you have floppy disks, sure, that's a different thing
[19:23] <Guest2349> hi, i just installed raring on a computer. it works fine, and can get onto the internet and I can ssh to it via its IP. the problem is i can't ping it or ssh to it via its hostname ("Water"). i.e `ping water` gives unknown host, but `<IP_ADDRESS>` works as expected. running `ping water` on the box itself works as expected. any ideas?
[19:23] <syntroPi> Global_Radio, raring is the name of latest ubuntu release. idk you have to try to compile that. checkinstall will not just drop that files somewhere on your hdd but make a lil installation .deb file and install through your software manager so you easily can remove it later. it also takes care about the dependencies if you answer ithe questions right when it builds the .deb
[19:23] <jordan4ibanez> No, I run windows 3.1
[19:23] <minimec> isank: Ok. So normally, the Ubuntu Live OS should use the integrated intel GPU as default.
[19:24] <saiarcot895> Guest2349: is its name being registered in DNS anywhere?
[19:24] <X-Sleepy-X> Guest2349: have you tried ping water.local ?
[19:24] <vith> Guest2349: i think that depends on your router
[19:24] <jordan4ibanez> It's not about what can run them, it's about the ability of finding the data on the hard disk.
[19:24] <Rubino123> my gensys sd internal card reader is not reading, any ideas on a fix?
[19:24] <minimec> isank: You say, that you can boot the system, but you don't get the graphical environment... right?
[19:24] <jordan4ibanez> Erm, transfering from floppy to hard disk.
[19:24] <Rubino123> lsusb output: Bus 002 Device 004: ID 05e3:0727 Genesys Logic, Inc. microSD Reader/Writer
[19:25] <isank> no not actually i just get a simple command prompt and nothing else
[19:25] <Guest2349> X-Sleepy-X: pinging water.local doesn't change anything
[19:25] <isank> i can't call it that my system boots
[19:25] <wjoosh> jordan4ibanez: you have an old game, that runs in windows 3.11, and it saves to floppy disk? and you want to know how to get this workig in linux?
[19:25] <syntroPi> Global_Radio, i think ubuntu 13.04 uses gtk 3 not  gtk+-2.0
[19:25] <X-Sleepy-X> Guest2349: have you added <IP_ADDRESS> to the hosts file?
[19:25] <Guest2349> vith: i don't see what my router would have anything to do with it. i have other boxes on this network and i can ping/ssh to them by their hostname
[19:26] <Rubino123> when I open the "Computer" file explorer it says C:// not available operation not supported
[19:26] <Rubino123> Any ideas
[19:26] <isank> i don't see the desktop , nothing no terminal just a simple command prompt spread all  over the screen
[19:26] <jordan4ibanez> No, I already did, I am asking if the things that are required to do it can be added to 13.10, so users like me don't struggle with playing classic games on linux.
[19:26] <Rubino123> Google says my problem does not exist
[19:26] <jordan4ibanez> It opens up a world of gaming.
[19:26] <Guest2349> X-Sleepy-X: no, but i don't want to manually override it. i don't see why this shouldn't work (i.e configure itself)
[19:26] <vith> Guest2349: your router would need to be serving dns to the second computer and resolving the hostname
[19:26] <Rubino123> Sd card problem was fixed temporarily but I was too tired to remember what worked
[19:26] <wjoosh> jordan4ibanez: may i ask for an example of one of the game names?
[19:26] <isank> do you want me to tell the whole condition to you from start to end
[19:27] <minimec> isank: Ok. can you tell me exactly, what you are doing. You start the computer and choose the CD Device or USB stick as boot device right?
[19:27] <isank> yup exactly i do so
[19:27] <jordan4ibanez> Train Engineer, Jetpack, Galactix.
[19:27] <wjoosh> isank: which one? cd or usb? please be specific
[19:27] <jordan4ibanez> I actually have dos running on my machine, but sometimes I like to multitask.
[19:27] <minimec> isank: After that you choose your keyboard and you 'Try Ubuntu'...
[19:27] <DJones> jordan4ibanez: As I said earlier, probably best if you ask it in #ubuntu+1 Another option would be to file it as a bug/wishlist request
[19:28] <jordan4ibanez> I already did.
[19:28] <Guest2349> vith: why would it do so for the other boxes on my network but not this one?
[19:28] <syntroPi> minimec, isnt that dialogue hidden behind "f2" on bootup
[19:28] <isank> no i get a grub menu where i choose try ubuntu widout installing
[19:28] <Dustin> New install of ubuntu 13.04, can't hear any sound on Skype at all and cannot capture my voice. Sound is working everywhere else though, same with voice being captured, any help is appreciated
[19:29] <isank> i donot get any menu to choose keyboard or anything
[19:29] <wjoosh> jordan4ibanez: I have not heard of the other two. I do not remember Galactix having a save function
[19:29] <vith> Guest2349: could be something like windows networking keeping its own list of host->ip mappings
[19:29] <Guest2349> saiarcot895: i'm not sure what you mean. this is on a local home network
[19:29] <syntroPi> isank, hit f2 right after your bios access your usb or cd
[19:29] <minimec> syntroPi: It's some 'F' button, right.
[19:29] <saiarcot895> Guest2349: in that case, what vith says applies
[19:29] <jordan4ibanez> wjoosh: Indeed.
[19:29] <syntroPi> minimec, F"
[19:29] <syntroPi> f2
[19:29] <isank> a very simple grub menu like the one we see when we have installed ubuntu and we see when we boot our pc and it gives us option like ubuntu , recovery etc etc
[19:30] <rawrite> flash plugin is not working for my 32bit ubuntu 12.04 . The error msg was "flash plugin has crashed". Any solutions?
[19:30] <wjoosh> jordan4ibanez: So i dont understsand why you need floppy disk to play galactix
[19:30] <jdoles> rawrite: apply to Adobe and fix it yourself.
[19:30] <jdoles> rawrite: Flash will likely just die slowly.
[19:31] <rawrite> jdoles: I already tried it, still didnt work
[19:31] <Kenjin> I'm seeing slow wifi connection with ath9k on kernel 3.9. Does 3.8 work well?
[19:31] <jdoles> rawrite: you can disable Flash and all other solutions are broken too.
[19:31] <minimec> isank: Did you create that boot device yourself? That sounds like a 'full install'. I created a stick like that fo myself.
[19:31] <isank> minimec
[19:31] <jdoles> rawrite: you applied to Adobe already?
[19:31] <Guest2349> vith: saiarcot895: how would I troubleshoot that, then? my browser's web interface shows the box in question and displays its hostname.
[19:31] <wjoosh> rawrite: google chrome has an improved, proprietary flash player. Perhaps that might help.
[19:32] <isank> yes i used universal usb installer to create a live usb
[19:32] <jdoles> wjoosh: they have their own engine?
[19:32] <rawrite> jdoles: what do you mean by apply to adobe?
[19:32] <Halleon> hello. need a little help about lirc
[19:32] <jdoles> rawrite: for a job
[19:32] <jdoles> rawrite: because they have the code.
[19:32] <wjoosh> jdoles: You mean chrome flash? it has secret sauce in it, no source code available, for playing flash. I dont know what's in it.
[19:32] <Halleon> need proper hardware. conf and lircd.conf for tv2000 xp expert
[19:33] <jdoles> wjoosh: so, chromium doesn't have that?
[19:33] <rawrite> jdoles: I downloaded flash pluggin from their web site
[19:33] <minimec> isank: A live disk should give you a menu to do some basic configuration, like keyboard settings and a menu to 'Try Ubuntu', 'direct install' and 'memory check' or so,
[19:33] <wjoosh> jdoles: No, chromium does not - only google chrome
[19:33] <jdoles> rawrite: I will say it more slowly and simple then.
[19:33] <jdoles> rawrite: there is not a chance -- ever -- of running Flash without issues on Linux.
[19:33] <rawrite> jdoles: I cant read your mind, dude
[19:34] <jdoles> I personally have no issues, but I know the performance is bad.
[19:34] <syntroPi> minimec, i always prefered to plug in a usb stick, configure virtualbox to give it to its guest, boot then from the live iso and from within that i used startup media creator to write from the live ubuntu in virtualbox on the usb stick
[19:34] <rawrite> applied to adobe could be anything, duh
[19:34] <xcaliber178> Hello. I have an issue. I was installing some things via apt-get command and i kept getting and error about linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic. So i issued "sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic" and I got this: http://pastebin.com/VAcHNxxN
[19:34] <Guest2349> vith: saiarcot895: in fact, in my router's web UI under DNS Server I can see the mapping just fine
[19:34] <isank> minimec : my computer is also UEFI and secure boot included, i have already disabled secure boot, but couldnot do the same with UEFI as windows 8 is also installed on my laptop
[19:34] <rawrite> flash is not dying for another 20 years so good luck
[19:34] <Halleon> Anyone can help me about my issue?
[19:34] <wjoosh> i've not seen a flash that google chrome linux didnt play ... ot of curiousity, can you link a flash that's givng problems?
[19:34] <nrthedreamer> any idea about building a panel applet
[19:34] <saiarcot895> Guest2349: Are you using one of the computers on your local network to serve DNS requests?
[19:34] <nrthedreamer> ?
[19:35] <Guest2349> ahhh, strange, it seems like my computer is storing an improper cache of what `water` resolves to. i tried from another computer and it worked fine.
[19:35] <Guest2349> i just i'll just restart
[19:35] <minimec> isank: So we know now, that you cannot choose your install device. You don't get these install options.
[19:35] <syntroPi> isank, ooh then it may be different didnt try that f2 thing on uefi yet
[19:36] <syntroPi> it has different bootup process
[19:36] <isank> sorry what f2 thing
[19:36] <minimec> isank: Problem is, that I have no idea of these UEFI devices. Maybe syntroPi knows more. At least he seems to have followed our discussion.
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> isank, Have you seen the UEFI wiki?
[19:37] <isank> minimec: no problem buddy atleast u tried to help me and thank u for that
[19:37] <wjoosh> isank: did you get the 64 bit installer, and disable secure boot?
[19:37] <genii> xcaliber178: Do a sudo apt-get remove linux-image-<version>   for the some of the old kernels of  <version> in /boot to free up some room
[19:37] <minimec> isank: ;)
[19:38] <isank> @wjoosh :i did that
[19:38] <syntroPi> isank, to get a dialogue at startup for some special options like "try ubuntu" "install" "test memory" "kernel parameters" and such you could press [F2] key right after the moment your pc begins to boot from your media. but with uefi it uses different bootloader so there it maybe a different thing, cant help with uefi though because i never used that
[19:38] <wjoosh> isank: Have you checked the UEFI install guide for ubuntu? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[19:39] <isank> yes checked it and did all the things according to it only but of no use
[19:40] <wjoosh> isank: May I ask the make and model of the machine?
[19:40] <xcaliber178> genii: what versions should i remove? i assume it would be bad to remove the version im currently using.
[19:40] <isank> wjoosh:sony vaio e series with core i5 3210M, amd radeon 7650M
[19:40] <X-Sleepy-X> xcaliber178: uname -r to see the current version
[19:40] <genii> xcaliber178: The usual thing is to leave your current kernel and the one just previous
[19:41] <minimec> syntroPi: Your Virtualbox way is quiet complicated... I just plug two USB sticks, And install Ubuntu from one to the other. Just use the 'advanced options' during partitioning...
[19:42] <wjoosh> isank: there is a key on the vaio you need to press to get the boot menu up. On most machines it's F2 or F8. Obviously that isnt working for you. Have you tried F11?
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> isank, THe best help on UEFI Installs is at the ubuntu forum, there is a mod on everyday that focuses on this start a thread there.
[19:43] <syntroPi> minimec, its quite quick shortcut if you have vbox already installed you wouldnt even need to reboot or close any work done while its writing the stick. also you can test it immediately with vbox and md5sum
[19:43] <nrthedreamer> anybody used download monitor?
[19:43] <xcaliber178> genii: I am running 3.2.0-41-generic. I issued the remove command for 40, 39, 38, 37, 36, 35, 34, etc, and got "Unable to locate package linux-image-<version>"
[19:44] <isank> wjoosh : this is what i get http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347445084.png when i boot from live usb
[19:44] <isank> wilee-nilee : already did that
[19:44] <cstewart>  i believe the sony bios are f1 and f2
[19:44] <isank> but no response till now
[19:44] <wjoosh> isank: A bit small. does the first line say "try ubuntu" ?
[19:45] <X-Sleepy-X> xcaliber178: did you use tabulator to find the different versions?
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> isank, Does the header say UEFI, can you post a link?
[19:45] <folorn> okay I've got a cd but i think i had some stuff on it
[19:45] <wjoosh> I think it says "Try ubuntu without installing" but the .png is tiny
[19:45] <folorn> is there anyway to format your CDS?
[19:45] <genii> xcaliber178: Can you pastebin the results of: apt-cache policy linux-image*
[19:45] <isank> wjoosh: yes it does, 2nd says install ubuntu, 3rd says check disks for defects
[19:46] <isank> a menu of three lines only
[19:46] <syntroPi> wjoosh, on intel boards its f10
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> isank, My concern here is qualified help, I have seen only one user on this channel with those skills and they are not here.
[19:46] <wjoosh> isank: See +before+ that point is usually where it breaks! :-)
[19:47] <xcaliber178> X-Sleepy-X: No, what is tabulator?
[19:47] <isank> wjoosh: i didn't get u
[19:47] <xcaliber178> genii: I tryed but the output of the command wont fit to the terminal screen/history.
[19:47] <minimec> syntroPi: Ok. That's an argument, I agree...
[19:47] <isank> wilee-nilee- could you help me please
[19:47] <Condenado> does anyone know a network manager application that integrates with windowmaker/gworkspace ?
[19:47] <bekks> xcaliber178: Then use pastebinit.
[19:48] <isank> who is that user
[19:48] <wjoosh> isank: It sounds like you don't the bios setup correctly but i dont know the specific setting for that machine
[19:48] <schnappi_> Hi. First time using irc. I was wondering if anyone would be willing to talk through some RT: Request Tracker installation issues I am having.
[19:48] <isank> wjoosh:i think i did it
[19:48] <wjoosh> isank: And yea, i know it's not a bios, but i still call it that :)
[19:48] <schnappi_> *the RT channel isn't as active as here...
[19:48] <X-Sleepy-X> xcaliber178: the TAB key..
[19:48] <isank> wjoosh:there is nothing much to do in this machines BIOS
[19:49] <wjoosh> isank: you get a "cant read disk" error when you pick from the menu?
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> isank,  I have been trying, by steering you to people who can. This uefi is a bit new for the open source community, and it s a bit different per manufactureres as far as installing, they have tweaked it for their use.
[19:49] <X-Sleepy-X> xcaliber178: start typing sudo apt-get autoremove --purge linux-image-  then press tab
[19:49] <X-Sleepy-X> xcaliber178: that way you will get a list of installed versions
[19:49] <isank> no actually i don't get anything just a continuously blinking screen
[19:50] <X-Sleepy-X> xcaliber178: also, you might wanna remove some linux-headers...
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> isank, Honestly anyone who helps you that does not ask if you are backed up first should be taken lightly.
[19:50] <isank> wjoosh:and after that i have to force shutdown the machine using power button
[19:51] <wjoosh> wilee-nilee: it's more likely to brick the machine than erase data :)
[19:51] <crashXcore> Hello world :) How goes it?
[19:51] <genii> xcaliber178: OK, give me a minute or two to formulate a plan :)
[19:51] <lesshaste> how do I tell if I have 32 or 64 bit install?
[19:52] <isank> so is there anyone who can help me on this
[19:52] <crashXcore> cat proc/cpuinfo
[19:52] <X-Sleepy-X> !anyone | isank
[19:52] <wjoosh> isank: It's an efi setting on your lappie, but i cant do it without seeing the screen, sorry :( im not familiar with that model of sony
[19:53]  * X-Sleepy-X giggles
[19:53] <lesshaste> uname -a ends i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[19:53] <lesshaste> is that 32 or 64 bit?
[19:53] <xcaliber178> Actually I did have linux-image-3.2.0-37-generic. I just now removed it and re-ran "sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic" still didnt work.
[19:53] <syntroPi> 32
[19:53] <stephanb> hey, can someone recommend a stable and reliable free url redirect service? like kickme.to back in the days
[19:54] <jrib> !ot | stephanb
[19:54] <X-Sleepy-X> lesshaste: looks like 32
[19:54] <lesshaste> thanks
[19:54] <lesshaste> what does 64 bit look like?
[19:54] <isank> Who is the UEFi guy there
[19:54] <syntroPi> amd64
[19:54] <kostkon> stephanb, x.co
[19:54] <isank> UEFI help
[19:54] <lesshaste> thanks
[19:54] <X-Sleepy-X> x86_64
[19:54] <isank> UEFI help please
[19:54] <lesshaste> isank, just ask :)
[19:54] <lesshaste> isank, don't ask  to ask
[19:55] <isank> lesshaste:can you help me
[19:55] <isank> with my problem
[19:55] <syntroPi> lesshaste, "Linux hostnamegioeshere 3.8.0-25-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 20:47:07 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[19:55] <X-Sleepy-X> lesshaste: x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:55] <isank> help needed on UEFI please
[19:55] <syntroPi> thats the amd64 pkgs
[19:55] <saiarcot895> isank, just ask your question
[19:55] <lesshaste> isank, you are about to get kicked
[19:56] <saiarcot895> If someone can answer it, they will
[19:56] <AdvoWork> hi there, just about to upgrade from 12.10, and i've seen on the new one that theres a different menu option rather than what i have now, it basically shows Applications in the top left. whats it called(i know its a crap description lol)
[19:56] <lesshaste> isank, if you don't just ask a sensible queston
[19:56] <wjoosh> he's been asking already, give him a break: you guys obvious just joined and missed his question
[19:56] <lesshaste> syntroPi, thanks
[19:56] <sammy> so df says my / is full (/var and /home are on other filesystems). when I use `du -x . | sort -n` it only claims to find a total of 1.3gb of files. what am I doing wrong?
[19:56] <lesshaste> wjoosh, k
[19:56] <sammy> oh whoops, I should havementioned the filesystem is 19gb large
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> AdvoWork, What desktop?
[19:57] <isank> ok i want to install ubuntu 12.04 64 bit on my sony vaio e series with core i5 and amd 7650 graphics , UEFI and secure boot feature included
[19:57] <debian-n00b> anyone have experience setting up 13.04 to use Radeon HD 5770 w/ 3 monitors? Whenever I boot my pc up once I get to the desktop the launcher bar is missing from all three monitors and compiz crashes
[19:57] <AdvoWork> wilee-nilee, maybe unity or gnome? i dunno
[19:57] <syntroPi> sammy, did you check "df -h"?
[19:57] <kostkon> AdvoWork, 12.10 and 13.04 are basically the same
[19:58] <sammy> syntroPi: says there is absolutely 0 space left on / -- its 100% used. 19gb large. du -kx .  shows a total at the end of 1335416 k blocks, thats not even 2gb, right?
[19:58] <gordonjcp> sammy: du -h
[19:58] <debian-n00b> if I keep the display set to mirror the launcher appears on all three monitors fine. But when I disable mirroring the bar disapears and like I said compiz crashes..
[19:58] <saiarcot895> isank: assuming you aren't able to get into your Ubuntu install, do you have a Live CD/USB?
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> AdvoWork, unty has that panel on the left of the screen, it s actually a plugin in compiz running on top of gnome 3, just trying to get to what the desktop is. Is this the gnome fallback?
[19:59] <isank> saiarcot895:i have a live USB
[19:59] <saiarcot895> isank: Have you tried installing Boot-Repair and using it to set up UEFI?
[19:59] <sammy> gordonjcp: redisplaying the 1335416 as 1.3GB doesn't change anything; I normally use -kx or -mx because I use sort -n afterwards to show me disk hogs.
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> AdvoWork, Take a screen shot of it and imagebin it if that is easier
[20:00] <saiarcot895> isank: Note that you also need a 100-200MB partition at the start of your drive for UEFI.