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[00:03] <Pici> PriceChild: What was that ban about?
[00:04] <PriceChild> Pici, quit message
[00:04] <Pici> PriceChild: simple woman?
[00:04] <PriceChild> Pici, one of them
[00:04] <Pici> Or the Intellegent American one
[00:04] <PriceChild> that's another
[00:04] <Pici> Rather, that one makes more sense...
[00:04] <PriceChild> together with the french one
[00:05] <PriceChild> the microsoft one.... meh not too bothered
[00:05] <PriceChild> well, not as bothered
[00:05] <nalioth> i actually think that was a compliment
[00:05] <Pici> The woman one wasnt bad, the american one was.
[00:06]  * nalioth wasn't bothered at all
[00:07] <Pici> I was only bothered because I misread the 'simple woman' one wrong at first.
[00:07] <PriceChild> In light of current events I think its worth asking for change.
[00:13] <nalioth> i think we've wasted far more brain cycles than it deserves
[01:05] <no0tic> jpatrick, sorry for the inconvenience but I invited codicealpha in #ubuntu-it-ops...
[01:30] <mannytu_> hi
[01:31] <LjL> hello, how can we help you?
[01:31] <mannytu_> i can not get to #ubuntu , it says I am ban?
[01:32] <LjL> let me check
[01:32] <mannytu_> ok
[01:35] <LjL> mannytu_, you sent this message a couple of times as soon as you joined #ubuntu
 A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[01:35] <LjL> can you explain that?
[01:35] <mannytu_> this is the first time I log into irc today?
[01:36] <LjL> maybe, but that was not today
[01:36] <mannytu_> I did don't know who did that message; it was not me.
[01:37] <LjL> well, it was from your computer, and using your very own nickname
[01:38] <mannytu_> I did not do that.
[01:38] <mannytu_> when did this happen?
[01:38] <LjL> Feb 19 2008 23:02:43
[01:39] <LjL> UTC
[01:40] <mannytu_> i do not know what to tell you; I did not do it
[01:41] <mannytu_> if you see when I long on I mostly read what is happening and not chat much at all...
[01:41] <LjL> mannytu_: may you have pasted that message into your client accidentally?
[01:42] <mannytu_> I do not think so, do I need to change my name?
[01:42] <LjL> no
[01:43] <mannytu_> can someone use my name without my password?
[01:43] <LjL> mannytu_: it just must have been some sort of accident, because it wasn't just your nickname, but your very computer's network address. i'll let you back into #ubuntu, but please make sure you don't accidentally paste lines into your client, because otherwise we'll just have to believe you're lying about it
[01:44] <Hobbsee> mannytu_: are you running any xchat scripts?
[01:45] <mannytu_> right now I am using xchat on my latop thru VMware maching with jars user
[01:45] <mannytu_> I also have Ubuntu on my Dell
[01:46] <mannytu_> I do not know how to run scrips
[01:46] <mannytu_> I still new and learning the linux commands
[01:48] <mannytu_> I am sure I did not paste anything, however, someone did
[01:49] <LjL> someone using the cpe-70-123-175-137.hot.res.rr.com address, yes.
[01:50] <mannytu_> whos address is that?
[01:50] <LjL> mannytu_: please type /whois mannytu_
[01:51] <mannytu_> It did not come up?
[01:52] <Hobbsee> [12:52] [Whois] mannytu_ is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(Larson)
[01:53] <mannytu_> that is my last name; is this my address?
[01:53] <LjL> yes
[01:54] <mannytu_> can someone use my computer to send these messages?
[01:54] <LjL> mannytu_: not unless your computer has been compromised
[01:55] <LjL> mannytu_: is the "mannytu" who is currently online yourself?
[01:55] <mannytu_> ok this is from my laptop; wil it be different on my Desktop?
[01:56] <LjL> what will be different?
[01:56] <mannytu_> the whois?
[01:56] <LjL> mannytu_: you can check for yourself, /whois mannytu
[01:57] <nalioth> they are the same
[01:57] <mannytu_> I type the command but it did not show me?
[01:57] <mannytu_>  /whois mannytu
[01:58] <LjL> mannytu_, it works just like it worked the other time with mannytu_
[01:59] <mannytu_> I type it term but I do not see it?
[01:59] <LjL> ok
[01:59] <LjL> [Whois] mannytu is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(purple)
[01:59] <LjL> mannytu_ is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(Larson)
[01:59] <LjL> the latter is yourself. is the former yourself too?
[02:00] <mannytu_> that should be my desktop on piggen
[02:00] <LjL> mannytu_: could you have inadvertedly sent those messages from Pidgin?
[02:01] <mannytu_> I do not real chat that much
[02:01] <mannytu_> I read to see the problems that other have to learn
[02:02] <LjL> mannytu_: look, either your computer was compromised, in which case you should worry, or you accidentally pasted stuff. i can't know.
[02:03] <mannytu_> ok, sorry for taking too much of your time
[02:05] <LjL> *deep breath*
[02:07]  * jdong pats LjL
[02:08] <LjL> Hobbsee: you win. PM:  [03:07:43] <mannytu> I know [03:08:00] <mannytu> I was messing with plug In
[02:08] <Hobbsee> hah
[02:10] <Pici> !opsnack | LjL
[02:10] <ubotu> LjL: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!
[02:10] <jdong> what if LjL were allergic to peanuts?
[02:11] <Pici> I'm allergic to peanuts...
[02:11] <LjL> err...
[02:11] <LjL> i'm allergic to peanuts.
[02:11] <LjL> but i'm not allergic to chocolate so i'll just throw the peanuts to mc44
[02:12] <mannytu> LjL: I know!!! I was messing with Plug in for Pidgin that day
[02:12] <LjL> mannytu: yes, i replied to your private message
[02:13] <mannytu> my wife was talking to me
[02:13] <mannytu> have to get ready for bed...
[02:13] <mannytu> good night
[02:13] <LjL> good night
[02:13] <no0tic> 'night LjL
[02:13] <jdong> no0tic: wrong person :)
[02:14] <no0tic> jdong, indeed, but he should go too :)
[02:14] <jdong> no0tic: maybe you two should go together and ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H yeah it's probably that time
[02:15] <no0tic> jdong, we live 300km away each others
[02:15]  * jdong tries to recall the expression about distant relationships...
[02:16] <Pici> Absense makes the heart grow fonder.
[02:17] <LjL> [Tue Nov 13 2007] [21:30:16] <jdong>    Pici: you picky when it comes to rubbin'?
[02:17] <LjL> [Tue Nov 13 2007] [21:30:29] <jdong>    I can't believe I just said that
[02:17] <jdong> :D
[02:17]  * Pici blinks
[02:17] <jdong> I have a feeling one can generate a very disturbing jdong-quotes collection
[02:17] <no0tic> jdong, absense is like the wind, blows out a candle and strenghtens larges fires
[02:18] <LjL> jdong: but we don't, unless provoked :P
[02:18] <jdong> LjL: :)
[02:56] <stdin> anyone else getting /msg's from kahrytan?
[02:57] <LjL> no, what about?
[02:57] <stdin> [02:56]<kahrytan> What kitofhawaii said about me in Jan 28, 2008, was complete bullshit. it was all lies and slander.  ref: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/01/28/%23ubuntu-ops.txt
[02:58]  * PriceChild headdesks
[02:58] <LjL> stdin: and why would he tell you about that?
[02:58] <stdin> LjL: nothing, just came out of the blue
[02:58] <LjL> stdin, i suggest you tell him to stop bothering you with unsolicited PMs.
[02:58] <stdin> I wasn't even active here, was working on some c++ code for the last few hours
[02:59] <PriceChild> LjL, perhaps we suggest he PMs me? *ducks*
[02:59] <Pici> He wasn't here either.
[02:59] <LjL> PriceChild: no, but we could suggest he joins here.
[02:59] <LjL> no PMs thank you.
[02:59] <PriceChild> -irc don't you mean? ;)
[03:00] <PriceChild> And I was being sarcy.
[03:00] <jdong> 21:59 <+LjL> no PMs thank you.
[03:00]  * jdong giggles
[03:00] <LjL> especially in the light of the fact that he asked for no PMs from us
[03:00] <stdin> I haven't replied, and I don't plan to. don't want to even give them the chance for a dialogue
[03:00] <LjL> PriceChild: -irc should do, yeah.
[03:01] <stdin> although the'll probably read the logs for this conversation and pm me again in a few days, oh well
[03:02] <LjL> stdin, so let him. he clearly requested that ops don't "harrass" him by PMing in. i don't see why, in this particular instance, you shouldn't respect his will.
[03:27] <mneptok> why is he still allowed in #u-us-hi?
[03:28] <mneptok> if ops are not allowed to speak to him, then he has no business in Ubuntu channels
[03:46] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, PriceChild said: !unforget anything
[03:46] <PriceChild> hmm was sure there was something there
[03:47] <PriceChild> ah he used a .
[06:31] <desertc> someone might want to keep an eye on #ubuntu-offtopic -- trouble brewing
[06:31] <Myrtti> I'm for a while
[06:32] <desertc> :)  okay - have a nice night
[11:45] <Hobbsee> people, is it trolling if you're saying something accurate?
[11:45] <Seeker`> Hobbsee: example?
[11:46] <Hobbsee> [22:13] * Fujitsu checks how far read-only-launchpad has been deferred.
[11:46] <Hobbsee> [22:14] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: it doesn't matter how long it's been deferred currently.  they'll just keep redeferring it by a month, as they wish.
[11:46] <Hobbsee> [22:18] <soren> So... How's the trolling business these days?
[11:53] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, it's all in the tone in such a situation
[11:54] <Hobbsee> yeah well
[11:55]  * Seeker` doesn'nt understand what is going on in that conversation, or how it is trolling
[11:55] <Hobbsee> Seeker`: it's launchpad milestones, and features getting delayed
[11:57] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: so, uh, what's the polite form of saying that launchpad tends to postpone it's release dates, so one can not assume that a given feature will show up when the suggested date says?
[11:57] <Hobbsee> :)
[11:58] <Gary> just what you typed is clear enough
[12:00] <Seeker`> "the release dates tend not to be accurate as features are usually delayed"
[12:01] <Gary> s/usually/often  s/usually/can be
[12:03] <Gary> hacktalk in #ubuntu is posting bash.org posts pretending they are helpful...
[12:10] <Gary> kb'd him
[12:58] <neversfelde> Hello, I am a kubuntu member since yesterday. Can you give me an Ubuntu cloak?
[12:58] <neversfelde> here is my launchpad account: https://edge.launchpad.net/~neversfelde
[12:58] <jpatrick> hi neversfelde
[12:59] <neversfelde> hi jpatrick
[12:59] <jpatrick> Gary: you still around mate?^
[12:59] <Gary> yeah
[12:59] <jpatrick> oh, wait, I think nalioth does all the ubuntu cloaks
[12:59] <Gary> he does
[13:00] <Pici> He does because it requires a staffer and a IRC Council member to do it... which he is both.
[13:01] <neversfelde> there is an IRC Council?
[13:01] <Pici> !irccouncil
[13:01] <ubotu> The Ubuntu IRC Council is the team governance council for the the Ubuntu IRC channels on the freenode network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/IrcCouncil for more information
[13:01] <neversfelde> thx
[13:02] <Pici> Sure :)
[14:28] <jussi01> I just ban/forwarded alterego from #kubuntu-kde4 seems he was one of those trolls we have been getting asking nonsense questions
[14:30] <mc44> jussi01: he just got k-lined
[14:30] <jussi01> hmmm, actually, make that just removed.
[14:30] <jussi01> mc44: heh, great
[14:45] <PriceChild> neversfelde, could I have your launchpad url please?
[14:45] <neversfelde> PriceChild: ofcourse, one moment please
[14:45] <PriceChild> neversfelde, have you set up your nickname with nickserv with a linked nick and email set?
[14:46] <neversfelde> PriceChild: I think so. Can I test it somewhere?
[14:46] <PriceChild> neversfelde, type /msg nickserv info neversfelde, then paste it into a private message with me
[14:47] <neversfelde> launchpad url is https://edge.launchpad.net/~neversfelde
[14:47] <PriceChild> "or", just check there is an email and linked nick listed there
[14:48] <neversfelde> PriceChild: there is an email and linked nicks
[14:48] <PriceChild> Good good.
[14:48] <PriceChild> nalioth, could you please cloak neversfelde with ubuntu/member
[14:48] <PriceChild> neversfelde, please be patient and nalioth will get to it asap.
[14:49] <neversfelde> no problem. Thanks for your Help.
[14:49] <neversfelde> shall I stay in channel?
[14:49] <PriceChild> could be handy, just incase
[14:50] <neversfelde> k
[14:50] <Pici> PriceChild: Gary is around somewhere... do you need nal, or any staffer?
[14:50] <PriceChild> Pici, need nal.
[14:50] <Pici> Ah :/
[14:50] <Gary> Pici, annoyingly nalioth only at the mo
[14:51] <Pici> Gary: You should annoy him about it
[14:53] <Pici> :X nevermind
[14:53] <Gary> I annoy him about many things :p
[17:42] <LjL> [18:41:07] * genius will pay $ (paypal) for help. I need to enable external monitor on NV7400Go. Please go private.
[17:42] <LjL> not sure what i think of this but i just thought i'd paste it
[17:47] <jussi01> heh, someones desperate
[18:09] <Seeker`> I dont think that it is a good thing, but it isn't definately wrong
[18:26]  * jpatrick looks at GRay in #kubuntu
[19:07] <Pici> ugh
[19:07] <ompaul> see -ops
[19:07] <ompaul> woops
[19:07] <ompaul> see -offtopic
[19:07] <Pici> Thats what my 'ugh' was about.
[19:08] <ompaul> Pici, ehh you should have said +1
[19:08] <ompaul> but you did not
[19:08] <Pici> Then you would have said, "What about #ubuntu+1"
[19:10] <ompaul> Pici, never - (at least just so I can disagree with you ;-)
[19:10] <ompaul> )
[19:10] <ubotu> white_eagle called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[19:22] <ompaul> jdong, pm
[20:49] <anthony> Hey, can anyone fill me in on what's happened so far in the CC meeting?
[20:50] <jpatrick> they're on the MOTU thing now
[20:51] <jpatrick> West Bengal-India application => rejected, not old enough
[20:51] <jpatrick> US - Maryland got though
[20:51] <jpatrick> and the others aren't around
[20:52] <jpatrick> anthony: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[20:52] <jpatrick> we still have to start memberships
[20:52] <anthony> All righty - why was the stuff about loco hosting removed?
[20:53] <LjL> not to do with the CC
[20:53] <jpatrick> already discuss at pervious meeting
[20:54] <anthony> Well, nothing changed since the last meeting.
[20:54] <jpatrick> anthony: Canonical team are overworked appartently
[20:54] <anthony> jpatrick: Yes, that's been their line since at least last October.
[20:55] <jpatrick> not much we can do about it :)
[20:55] <anthony> There's "overworked" and there's "just not paying attention to that anymore"
[20:55] <jpatrick> They did my requests at rt.ubuntu.com
[20:55] <anthony> They said they were hiring new people, and things would improve "within weeks"
[20:57] <anthony> meh, whatever
[20:57]  * anthony hunkers down for posingaspopular and greg-g
[20:58] <jpatrick> anthony: just poke them in #canonical-sysadmin when you need something :)
[21:00] <anthony> jpatrick: I have.  Many, many times.  So has Madpilot.  We've been filing tickets, sending e-mails, poking people on IRC, and still nothing.  We've even had someone in #canonical-sysadmin promise action within 24 hours, on three separate occasions, and not come through.
[21:01] <anthony> We've been working on getting a web site up ever since Ubuntu Canada was approved over a year ago.
[21:01] <jpatrick> anthony: wow, odd... they've always helped me when I asked...
[21:02] <anthony> jpatrick: Yeah, I don't know what the deal is...
[21:03] <jpatrick> anthony: I find them have a thing with "security" all the time :)
[21:03] <jpatrick> they*, but don't blame them, it's their machines
[21:06] <anthony> jpatrick: right now the "security" excuse is being used to explain why we can't edit our Drupal theme, and are stuck with broken links that users keep complaining to me about because Canonical gave us a broken theme.
[21:08] <jpatrick> anthony: surely you must have at least one ssh account on the machine..
[21:08] <anthony> jpatrick: No.  No SSH nor FTP.
[21:09] <anthony> you can see that in our ticket
[21:09] <jpatrick> ok, that's just evil
[21:10] <anthony> jpatrick: https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=207 for one of our threads of contact
[21:13] <jpatrick> anthony: I see..


[08:39] <JamesTait> Good morning, all. :)
[09:06] <karni> Good morning!
[10:09] <gatox> hi
[10:17] <mandel> gatox, morning!
[10:18] <mandel> gatox, how is the fix for the unicode issue going?
[10:21] <gatox> mandel, well... i fix u1-client to return unicode from interaction_interfaces when the folders are requested.... but it only fix that part, u1-cp explote because is trying to parse the path, cutting off the first part: c:\users\username and is using expanduser
[10:22] <gatox> nessita told me to not modify u1-cp yet... i have to talk with her today
[10:25] <gatox> mandel, how are you this morning? do you need any review or something?
[10:30] <mandel> gatox, this morning.. is very slow, it looks like tests are borken on O so I'm creating an N machine to test..
[10:30] <mandel> gatox, major PITA
[10:30] <mandel> gatox, while I'm waiting I'm writing patches for python on windows :P
[10:31] <gatox> mandel, which tests are broken in O.... i tried what you ask yesterday, but you were EOD when i answered
[10:32] <mandel> gatox, control panel ones
[10:33] <mandel> gatox, can you run them with no problem in o?
[10:33] <gatox> mandel, yes, that's why i ask... i can run them again if you want
[10:33] <gatox> let me do it with trunk updated and i'll let you know
[10:35] <gatox> mandel, nop.... u1-client was.... with cp i can't run the tests.. i have problem with some import.... i was trying to fix that since yesterday.... i was confusing cp and client tests
[10:36] <mandel> gatox, no, cp does not work because the twisted reactor uses the old gtk bindings and the control panel now use gi
[10:36] <gatox> mandel, do you know what is this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/713059/
[10:36] <mandel> gatox, so things explote!
[10:36] <gatox> yessssssss.... that!
[10:36] <gatox> mandel, ahhhhhh i thought it was me!
[10:37] <mandel> gatox, yes, that is the problem I had, and the most annoying things is that when you do a simple import it works
[10:37] <mandel> gatox, dobey knew :P
[10:37] <gatox> true
[11:07]  * mandel walks dog
[11:37] <nessita> hello everyone
[11:38] <gatox> nessita, hi
[12:08] <nessita> mandel: ping
[12:09] <gatox> nessita, is the installer working for you?
[12:09] <nessita> gatox: haven't tried lately... is not?
[12:11] <gatox> nessita, i'm trying to run what is in trunk, nothing else, as always..... and i'm receiving this error:
[12:11] <gatox>   File "C:\Python27\lib\site-packages\twisted\internet\main.py", line 30, in ins
[12:11] <gatox> tallReactor
[12:11] <gatox>     raise error.ReactorAlreadyInstalledError("reactor already installed")
[12:11] <gatox> twisted.internet.error.ReactorAlreadyInstalledError: reactor already installed
[12:12] <gatox> i tried to comment that lines and see what happend.... but the ui never show up
[12:12] <nessita> gatox: if you comment the reactor install it will never run
[12:12] <nessita> gatox: try looking at the previos revnos, what changed in each
[12:14] <gatox> nessita, ok
[12:15] <gatox> nessita, yes, i assume that about the reactor :P i wanted to try what happend
[12:15] <nessita> gatox: heh
[12:30] <nessita> mandel: ping?
[12:30] <gatox> nessita, he is walking the dog
[12:30] <nessita> ah, thanks
[12:38] <ralsina> good morning!
[12:38] <gatox> ralsina, hi!
[12:39] <ralsina> hola gatox
[12:39] <gatox> ralsina, question: is the installer working for you?
[12:39] <ralsina> gatox: that's a difficult question :-)
[12:39] <gatox> ralsina, ejeje why?
[12:39] <ralsina> gatox: have not tried installing it in a long time
[12:40] <gatox> ralsina, nono.... no installing..... executing ubuntuone-windows-installer from sources
[12:40] <ralsina> gatox: haven't either, I am kinda behind in other stuff, haven't looked at it this week
[12:41] <gatox> ralsina, ah ok.... no problem..... i'll keep looking what can it be
[12:46] <dobey> hmm
[12:48] <dobey> gatox: you or something you're importing is importing twisted.internet.reactor which installs itself, before you are installing a different reactor
[12:49] <gatox> dobey, i'm trying in windows.... not linux
[12:49] <gatox> dobey, ahhh
[12:49] <gatox> dobey, i thought you were talking about the cp problem
[12:50] <dobey> what cp problem?
[12:50] <gatox> dobey, i'm looking at that... it seems that something like that.....
[12:50] <gatox> dobey, about gi
[12:50] <dobey> oh
[12:50] <gatox> for the tests
[12:50] <dobey> yeah, that's broken :)
[12:51] <ralsina> So, what's *not* broken today? I need good news ;-)
[12:51] <dobey> my credit is good :P
[12:52] <ralsina> dobey: good to hear!
[13:00] <alecu> hello #ubuntuone!
[13:00] <nessita> hi alecu!
[13:00] <nessita> me
[13:00] <gatox> me
[13:02] <nessita> ralsina, dobey, alecu, mandel?
[13:02] <alecu> me
[13:02] <ralsina> me
[13:02] <dobey> meh
[13:04] <alecu> nessita, go
[13:04] <nessita> DONE: reviews, bug triage, teaching duties
[13:04] <nessita> TODO: meetings, reviews, more u1sdtool-multiplatform branch
[13:04] <nessita> BLOCKED: nopes
[13:04] <nessita> NEXT: gatix
[13:04] <nessita> gatox*
[13:04] <gatox> DONE:
[13:04] <gatox> Fixed Successful Page (trying to make ubuntuone-windows-installer work in order to test it IRL), trying to make u1lint work (with nessita's help).
[13:04] <gatox> TODO:
[13:04] <gatox> Find out what happend with ubuntuone-windows-installer, fix u1lint, propose the successful page branch and work in the multiplatform expanduser.
[13:04] <gatox> BLOCKED:
[13:04] <gatox> No
[13:04] <gatox> alecu, go
[13:04] <alecu> DONE: took a day off, but before that: fixed non-ascii computer name bug #875331, pending just one review: https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntu-sso-client/fix-get-token-name/+merge/79594
[13:04] <alecu> TODO: meetings, finish proxy support design document, discuss different proxy approaches with the team
[13:04] <alecu> BLOCKED: no
[13:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 875331 in ubuntuone-windows-installer (and 1 other project) "SSO Client does not work with non-ascii hostnames (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/875331
[13:04] <alecu> NOTE: I'm taking this evening off and tomorrow moning for cleaning up and moving the old apt/office
[13:04] <alecu> NEXT: ralsina
[13:04] <ralsina> DONE: mgmt call, thinking, mail catchup, thinking. TODO: team roadmap call, other calls, try to cleanup a couple of branches I have pending BLOCKED: no
[13:05] <dobey> λ DONE: banshee fight, scheduled holidays, bug #872972, started moving banshee extension to LP
[13:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 872972 in libubuntuone (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Store URLs have to wait for main page to load (affects: 1) (heat: 38)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872972
[13:05] <dobey> λ TODO: banshee/libu1 SRUs, bug #467397?, planning call, precise development setup, discuss release procedure with elopio
[13:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 467397 in python2.6 (Ubuntu) (and 6 other projects) "KeyError: 'ROUND_CEiLiNG' when using turkish locale (affects: 16) (dups: 9) (heat: 108)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/467397
[13:05] <dobey> λ BLCK: No.
[13:05] <nessita> ah! DONE: found a couple of bugs inside the windows IPC side
[13:06] <alecu> nessita, what (else) was broken in the windows IPC?
[13:07] <nessita> alecu: the calls to do "stuff" thru SDTool were supposed to replicate the linux behaviour where, for example, if you requested a folder creation, the sdtool explictely waits for the folder creation success/error signal
[13:07] <nessita> alecu: but in windows, nothing was waiting on... so the calls returned way before the whole op was completed
[13:08] <nessita> alecu: this is why the folder subscribal, on windows, was not showing the folder as subscribed when the backend returned
[13:08] <nessita> and we had to add the ugly delay
[13:08] <alecu> nessita, cool that you found that!
[13:08] <nessita> yes, but a lot needs fixing
[13:08] <nessita> so, more lines to this already enormous branch! :-D
[13:09] <nessita> (yeah, I will try to split it on windows/linux)
[13:09] <alecu> nessita, wait! can't you report that as a different bug, and let's do it as a different branch?
[13:09] <alecu> *and we'll do it
[13:09] <ralsina> right, let's parallelize
[13:10] <nessita> alecu: well... short answer: no. Long answer: I moved all the stdool and u1stool branches to a multiplatform place, so *the same* suite is run on both platform
[13:10] <nessita> alecu: so, right now, the suite that is succeeding on linux, is not passing on widnows
[13:10] <nessita> windows*
[13:10] <nessita> alecu: so, splitting on linux/windows for review sounds like the best choice here
[13:10] <alecu> nessita, ack
[13:11] <nessita> alecu: when I said "all the stdool and u1stool branches" I meant  all the stdool and u1stool *tets suites*
[13:11] <alecu> nessita, I'll be marking a day or two in my calendar to review *those branches* :-)
[13:11] <nessita> heh
[13:11] <nessita> but after this, I will be much more confident on sdtool on windows
[13:12] <ralsina> great work nessita
[13:12] <alecu> so, are we having the meeting in 45'?
[13:12] <nessita> ralsina: thanks, I think this will pay off a lot, specially since we will be able to run u1sdtool on windows (and then ask users a lot more of things for debug)
[13:12] <alecu> oh, and EOM btw
[13:12] <nessita> eom!
[13:13] <ralsina> nessita: indeed, u1sdtool would come handy for thememory leak debugging :-/
[13:13] <ralsina> alecu: yes
[13:13] <nessita> ralsina: it will? what do you have in mind?
[13:13] <ralsina> nessita: for example, to know if the queue is just huge
[13:13] <nessita> ah, yes
[13:14] <alecu> ralsina, hmmm
[13:14] <alecu> ralsina, I see it in 15' in the google calendar
[13:14] <ralsina> alecu: then it's in 15' ;-)
[13:14] <alecu> cool
[13:14]  * ralsina was not looking and trusted alecu
[13:15]  * alecu wrongly trusted his flaky memory
[13:16] <alecu> gatox, nessita, thisfred, joshuahoover, mandel, dobey, ralsina, Chipaca: mumble meeting in 13'
[13:16] <ralsina> alecu: ack!
[13:16] <gatox> alecu, ack
[13:16] <joshuahoover> alecu: yep
[13:17] <alecu> thisfred, mumble meeting in 13'
[13:17] <thisfred> alecu: wow, your ping crashed my xchat
[13:17] <alecu> thisfred, oh, sorry! :-)
[13:18] <thisfred> alecu: thx. what about?
[13:18] <thisfred> next cycle planning?
[13:18] <thisfred> or more PM?
[13:18] <dobey> thisfred: yep
[13:18] <thisfred> kk
[13:18] <thisfred> I don't think I got the invite :)
[13:18] <alecu> thisfred, I didn't get the invite either
[13:19] <ralsina> thisfred, alecu: argh
[13:19] <thisfred> let's see if mumble works'
[13:19] <ralsina> It's in the OLS calendar and everything
[13:19] <ralsina> https://www.google.com/calendar/b/1/render?hl=en&tab=cc&pli=1&gsessionid=MGU7QwSdSznBCdn8S4vmXg
[13:24] <thisfred> no mumble on main machine, trying laptop
[13:24] <dobey> OLS is such a horrible acronym for that
[13:28] <mandel> ralsina, nessita sorry I missed the standup, I had an engineer comming to fix the interent and had to spend some time at home
[13:29] <ralsina> mandel: no problem
[13:29] <nessita> mandel: we're in mumble for the planning meeting
[13:29] <mandel> nessita, ralsina there already
[14:51] <ralsina> alecu, mumble?
[14:52] <ralsina> everyone: sent email with the meeting notes
[14:56] <ralsina> alecu, you left :-)
[14:56] <alecu> damn
[15:18] <ralsina> nessita: can we have our 1-1 at say 2PM? I am hungry and my throat is sore
[15:18] <nessita> ralsina: sure
[15:18] <ralsina> nessita: cool, thx
[15:18] <dobey> need to get lunch, bbiab
[15:21] <gatox> lunch! brb
[16:28] <mandel> alecu, nessita I already asked ralsina for a review, but I know he is busy, so please: https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-windows-installer/fix-reactor-import/+merge/79842
[16:29] <mandel> tools does an import reactor and brakes things, so I had t do that work around
[16:29] <nessita> mandel: looking
[16:30] <nessita> mandel: I think the fix is not the best fix... but maybe I'm mistaken
[16:30] <nessita> mandel: where is the migrate code imported that makes 2 reactors be installed?
[16:31] <mandel> nessita, is in ubuntuone_installer/main/windows.py, there the qt reactor is installed
[16:32] <nessita> looking
[16:32] <mandel> nessita, but is isntalled by main() which menas that utils cannot be imported until main() has installed the reactor
[16:32] <nessita> right
[16:32] <nessita> mandel: let me look at the code and I confirm or deny my theory
[16:32] <mandel> nessita, sure
[16:33] <dobey> sigh, twisted :)
[16:34] <nessita> mandel: right, so the fix should be move the utils import from the global space to inside the def's that need it
[16:35] <nessita> mandel: in fact, I'm wondering why those def's are in main() (besides the main() itself)
[16:35] <nessita> mandel: so, I would  move:
[16:36] <nessita> check_updates, check_credentials to utils, and then import the utils module inside the main() def, after the reactor was installed
[16:36] <nessita> mandel: that way we can also cleanup the passing of the CredentialsManagementTool class to check_credentials
[16:37] <nessita> mandel: since, if we move check_credentials to utils, which will be imported after the reactor was installed, we can import CredentialsManagemetTool globally in utils
[16:37] <nessita> mandel: you followed me?
[16:38] <mandel> nessita, so, move everything but move to utils and then simply import check_credentials, right?
[16:38] <nessita> mandel: hem.. that's a subset, yes
[16:39] <nessita> mandel: you can't move the reactor callbacks, for example
[16:39] <nessita> so, stop, error_cb, and success_cb remain in main()
[16:39] <mandel> nessita, why can't I move success?
[16:39] <nessita> mandel: it creates a GUI
[16:40] <nessita> we don't want to move that to utils
[16:40] <mandel> oh, true..
[16:40] <mandel> I hate that stupid import magic from the reactor, is making or code look horrible
[16:40] <nessita> mandel: yes
[16:41] <mandel> nessita, ok, can you add a needs fixing and I'll sort out this tom early morning, I ran out of hours
[16:41] <nessita> mandel: sure!
[16:42] <mandel> nessita, thx! I'll send you an email when done, it is not a lot of work
[16:42] <nessita> yeap
[16:43] <ralsina> check_credentials is in main because the contents used to be *in* main :-)
[16:43] <ralsina> as in they used to be in the main function, then I moved them out so they became at least marginally testable
[16:49] <mandel> nessita, ralsina before I go, I have a control-panel branch blocked because the control panel tests do not work on O, what do we do about that?
[16:50] <nessita> mandel: I have no idea :-/
[16:50] <nessita> mandel: as far as I know, twisted will not work with gi bindings
[16:51] <nessita> so, we're kinda screwed in that front
[16:51] <nessita> dobey: did we reach any conclusion about that? ^ or only crying is possible?
[16:51] <dobey> about gi?
[16:52] <dobey> mandel: why is your branch blocked?
[16:52] <mandel> dobey, is not strinctly blocked, I'm blocking it until I set up a natty machine to test it, which is a PITA
[16:53] <dobey> mandel: tarmac is running on natty still
[16:54] <mandel> dobey, ok,then I'll propose it and will have a local natty for testing
[16:54] <mandel> anywas, EOD for me, catch you laters!
[16:54] <dobey> don't let oneiric block you!
[16:54] <dobey> nessita: conclusion is we need to fix twisted, or stop using twisted :)
[16:55] <nessita> dobey: how fixable is twisted in that regard? :-)
[16:56] <dobey> nessita: well, i have a branch that's maybe 50% there. the other 50% is broken in glib :(
[16:58] <nessita> dobey: would you know if glib will be "fixed" in that regard?
[16:59] <dobey> nessita: theoretically, yes. and it is something we can probably work around, but i haven't had time to poke further into that, with the release and SRUs and everything. but hopefully will be able to test my theory shortly
[17:00] <dobey> shortly being within the next week i hope
[17:02] <nessita> nice
[17:02] <nessita> dobey: we can wrap up that during UDS
[17:03] <dobey> maybe. some twisted folks will be there, so we can ping in person if need be; but hopefully will be able to make it work before then :)
[17:25] <gatox> ralsina, nessita review please: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-sso-client/page-successful/+merge/79856  -  https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-windows-installer/successful-page/+merge/79857
[17:26] <nessita> gatox: ack!
[17:26] <nessita> gatox: whate ever happened with network-detect?
[17:27] <gatox> nessita, i fix the things you mentioned... but i'm trying to have u1lint working to test it myself and fix anything else and then let you know
[17:27] <nessita> gatox: great
[17:27] <gatox> "fix anything else" i mean if there is another lint issue
[17:29] <dobey> gatox: are you on oneiric?
[17:30] <gatox> dobey, yes
[17:30] <dobey> oh, though u1lint should work, since it doesn't use twisted
[17:31] <gatox> dobey, well, i was having some issues with some dependencies.... nessita was helping me to fix that
[17:31] <dobey> gatox: sure. i was just thinking of the introspection issue :)
[17:33] <gatox> nessita, this branch should be ready: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-sso-client/network-detect/+merge/77048
[17:56] <dobey> nessita: can you refresh my memory of what you were wondering about wrt stable branches process from the call this morning? i'm trying to collect all those thoughts in a few notes to write kup the e-mail and want to make i get everything covered
[17:57] <nessita> dobey: yes. For example:
[17:58] <nessita> * from "a feature should be ported from trunk to stable when is *ready*". What's the definition of ready?
[17:58] <nessita> * from  the definition of *ready*, if we mention QA, who is in charge of doing it? how?
[17:58] <nessita> * what time frames shall we handle to do ports? all together at the end? on demand?
[17:59] <gatox> nessita,  and this one should be ready too: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-windows-installer/network-detect/+merge/77049
[17:59] <dobey> nessita: what do you mean my "ports" there? supporting a new platform?
[17:59] <nessita> * what do we port? (I know this is a broad question, but I think you get my point?) like, anything we develop in trunk and is *ready*? or only things listed in *here*?
[17:59] <nessita> dobey: no, sorry, port == porting something from trunk to a stable branch
[17:59] <dobey> ah ok
[18:01] <dobey> nessita: is that all?
[18:05] <nessita> dobey: from the top of my head, yes. Fell free to add any other detail that may help be all in sync with the process
[18:06] <dobey> yes of course. just wanted to make sure i am covering what you were asking about, since you brought it up in the meeting. didn't want to send an e-mail and not cover anything you asked about :P
[18:07] <nessita> heh
[18:56] <nessita> gatox: ping
[18:56] <nessita> gatox: this MP is still failing with the errors I pasted in it: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-sso-client/network-detect/+merge/77048
[18:57] <gatox> nessita, weird!! i run u1lint on that branch and didn't show any changes
[18:57] <nessita> gatox: is a test error
[18:57] <nessita> actually, 2
[18:57] <gatox> nessita, ahhhhh tests
[18:57] <nessita> gatox: I pasted the error on the 18th
[19:07] <dobey> man, this weather has me super tired
[19:08] <dobey> maybe i should go get a snack full of sugar or something
[21:07] <dobey> nessita: got sidetracked, but i'll write up that e-mail in the morning. too exhausted now. :-/
[21:07] <dobey> hae a good evening though
[21:07] <nessita> dobey: you too, get some rest
[22:10] <Reaper> is ubuntu one not working?
[22:16] <duanedesign> hello Reaper
[22:16] <Reaper> howdy
[22:16] <duanedesign> Reaper: Currently the servers are experiencing very high loads
[22:16] <Reaper> ahh thank god I was going crazy LOL
[22:17] <duanedesign> Reaper: are you in Ubuntu?
[22:17] <Reaper> yes
[22:17] <duanedesign> Reaper: if you are curious you can use this command to watch the logs:
[22:17] <duanedesign> tail -fn 50 /home/duanedesign/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log
[22:18] <Reaper> in terminal?
[22:18] <duanedesign> of course change duanedesign :)
[22:18] <duanedesign> Reaper: oh, yes. Sorry
[22:18] <Reaper> very cool thanx
[22:18] <duanedesign> Reaper: in this instance you will likely see a lot of: Connection lost: [('SSL routines', 'SSL23_READ', 'ssl handshake failure')]
[22:20] <Reaper> I had about 4 machines tryin to upload lol
[22:20] <duanedesign> Reaper: oh, and when you are done watching the logs scroll by use ctrl + c to quit the 'tail' command
[22:21] <duanedesign> Reaper: Are you using Ubuntu 11.10?
[22:21] <Reaper> lol k
[22:21] <Reaper> yep
[22:21] <duanedesign> good :)
[22:21] <Reaper> why is that good?
[22:21] <Reaper> just for the command?
[22:21] <duanedesign> Reaper: that is the newest Ubuntu ONe client.
[22:21] <Reaper> oh got cha
[22:21] <duanedesign> It ocntains the latest fixes and improvements
[22:22] <duanedesign> contains*
[22:22] <Reaper> so when the servers arent all jacked up will it upload all my stuff?
[22:22] <duanedesign> we are trying to backport all the changes but it is a time consuming process
[22:22] <duanedesign> Reaper: yes.
[22:22] <Reaper> cool
[22:23] <duanedesign> Reaper: If you click connect. It will kep trying to connect until it gets a connection.
[22:24] <Reaper> I have connection.. just need to upload the files now lol
[22:34] <Reaper> If I add a folder the files in the folder will be uploaded once all is well, is that correct?


[08:54] <slashbel> congrats czajkowski, hope the new job works out well
[08:56] <czajkowski> thanks
[09:01] <ebel> yeah congrats czajkowski !
[09:15] <czajkowski> thanks yu guys settling in over there
[09:15] <czajkowski> ebel: made your peace with fizzy water :)
[09:15] <slashbel> slowly
[09:16] <slashbel> we're still working on the kitchen… i expect ebel will be drilling into some more concrete on saturday
[09:16] <slashbel> it's illegal to drill on the evenings or sunday
[09:16] <czajkowski> aye so I saw
[09:16] <slashbel> well it might not be illegal
[09:16] <czajkowski> bit odd but also nice but odd
[09:16] <slashbel> but the police will be called
[09:16] <slashbel> (and the police *will* come)
[09:17] <czajkowski> does mean if you're sitting at home in the evening you wont hear people drilling so there is that
[09:17] <slashbel> exactly, this is how you have middle-class people choosing to live in apartmenta
[09:17] <slashbel> they're not just for the young and the poor
[09:18]  * slashbel is queueing up furniture that needs tacks hammering in to them, for a suitable time
[09:19] <czajkowski> heh so it's a lot of DIY then
[09:19] <czajkowski> no bother to either of ye then
[09:19] <slashbel> yes, it is common to rent unfurnished here
[09:19] <slashbel> unfurnished means no light fittings, no kitchen etc, but at least you get a bathroom
[09:19] <czajkowski> yeah all over here is unfurnished as well
[09:20] <czajkowski> ah well at least there is a kitchen and light fittings
[09:20] <slashbel> unfurnished is so much better… you don't have to put up with the landlords shit
[09:20] <slashbel> it really annoyed me having to chuck away good furniture when i moved to ireland
[09:20] <ebel> yeah it is very queit then at night or evenings
[09:21] <slashbel> you can rent places with a kitchen, but roughly 90% of places don't come with a kitchen (so it rather limits your options)
[09:21] <slashbel> and we landed with roughly 2 weeks to find a home
[09:22] <czajkowski> nods
[09:23] <slashbel> but at least we should save around €7000/year on rent
[09:23] <slashbel> for a place that is almost twice the size as smithfield
[09:25] <czajkowski> ah makes sense then
[09:25] <czajkowski> and the jobs
[09:25] <czajkowski> both of you guys working?
[09:25] <slashbel> yep, we had jobs before we left ireland
[09:25] <czajkowski> sweet
[09:25] <czajkowski> :D
[09:25] <czajkowski> Jon goes to Germany every few months on a bike ride
[09:26] <czajkowski> takes one of his motorbikes over on a road trip
[09:26] <czajkowski> loves the roads over there
[09:26] <czajkowski> there are currently 3 motorbikes in my driveway :/
[09:26] <slashbel> ebel is working with openstreetmap, and i found a job doing dev work on switches/routers etc (like i did in dublin)
[09:26] <czajkowski> wow good stuff
[09:26] <czajkowski> :D
[09:26] <czajkowski> congrats to you both
[09:26] <slashbel> yep, this area of germany especially is very good for the biking!
[09:26] <slashbel> thanks
[09:27] <czajkowski> Last trip he did nurburgring
[09:28] <slashbel> we're right next to schwarzwald
[09:28] <ebel> yeah.
[09:30] <slashbel> although we have a daunting task ahead, on friday we plan to head to the TÜV and re-register our bikes
[09:31] <slashbel> which unfortunately does take a few hundred euro off the value (irish vrt)
[09:33] <czajkowski> better than having to buy a new bike
[09:37] <slashbel> that's what i figure. i could have sold my bike in ireland, bought a similar one here and saved money
[09:37] <slashbel> but at least with my bike, i know the history
[09:38] <czajkowski> nods
[09:38] <czajkowski> at until you get settled no point in adding any extra hassle or expense
[09:39] <slashbel> aye, we have been busy enough as it is
[09:47] <ebel> yeah


[00:51] <newtokubuntu> anyone run Cairo-Dock/
[00:51] <newtokubuntu> ?
[00:53] <newtokubuntu> i installed it on kubuntu v15.04 and i wasnt able to right click on desktop?
[00:55] <PercyB> hmmm... Using Kubuntu I installed also unity, removed the Kubuntu login manager, made a dpkg-reconfigure but now lightdm does NOT start the system, it just sends a "failed" message. Any ideas how I could fix this?..
[00:58] <PercyB> It does not even work as guest... however the background unity-screen does start
[02:01] <Cay> Hey curious, I see f12 works for entire screen screenshot but I can't find a key binding nor the key combo for single app screenshot
[02:01] <Cay> am I just simply a moron and missing it, alt+f12 didn't work
[03:25] <junkdog> hi! on my computer - KDE 5.2.2 and Kubuntu 15.04 - the keyboard no longer responds to keyboard input. it worked without issue until now. any way to troubleshoot what's going on - or somewhow reset the effect?
[03:30] <strayPuppy> I always tap all the keys like: ctrl, alt, esc, sometimes that will work.
[03:36] <junkdog> i tried that, but still the same situation.
[03:39] <junkdog> ha! i deactivated the 2nd screen, then enabled it back again - now it works ;)\
[05:44] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:29] <Anonn> hello
[07:29] <Anonn> Hello
[07:29] <hateball> Anonn: Do you have a question?
[07:30] <Anonn> Hello, no, is my first time on irc, i dont know how use, only exploring
[07:33] <Anonn> For what is this room?
[07:34] <lordievader> Kubuntu support, see /topic ;)
[07:34] <Anonn> Oh sorry!!! Tks.
[07:55] <ovidiu-florin> This is the most awesome bug report I've ever seen: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+KristerHallergard/posts/iver7XzhRVV
[08:17] <danivizcaaa> hola
[08:18] <lordievader> o/
[12:32] <zerj23> hi there
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:33] <zerj23> how can i install kde plasma 5.4 in kubuntu 15.04?
[12:34] <lordievader> zerj23: As of now, you can't. Perhaps you can in the future and perhaps Wily will be the only one to receive 5.4.
[12:36] <BluesKaj> zerj23, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/08/install-kde-plasma-plasma-5-4/
[12:38] <lordievader> Heh, interesting.
[12:38] <zerj23> look at majaro site, it has 5.4
[12:42] <BluesKaj> I assumed 15.10 beta has plasma 5.4, but I don't see any indication in dolphin or aother default kubuntu apps
[12:42] <hay207> hi guys, how to mute sound from terminal?
[12:43] <hay207> amixer sset Master mute
[12:43] <hay207> amixer: Unable to find simple control 'Master',0
[12:45] <BluesKaj> hay207, alsamixer, use m to mute the vol ctl you want
[12:46] <hay207> no pulse
[12:48] <hay207> amixer -q -D pulse sset Master toggle
[12:48] <hay207> used to work
[12:48] <hay207> but recently it fails
[12:52] <hay207> how to switch from pulse to alsa?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> hay207, alsa is the default, pulse has become the sound server for alsa , so you can run audio without pulse , but not without alsa, especially on intel-hda audio  equipped pcs
[12:57] <hay207> played with settings and it worked
[12:57] <BluesKaj> just sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio pulseaudio utils, then reboot
[12:57] <hay207> yes i m using intel hda
[12:57] <BluesKaj> pulseaudio-utils that is
[12:58] <BluesKaj> hay207, yes I dumped pulse a while back , since I have no need for it ...some audio cards require it but for single source playback intrl doesn't need pulse
[12:59] <BluesKaj> inrl=intel
[13:26] <mokush> any idea if we're getting 5.4 in backports? or should we stick with -ci/stable?
[14:25] <sky__> Excuse me ,where can i report the bugs in kubuntu 15.10?
[14:26] <TJ-> !bugs
[14:27] <sky__> Thx
[15:03] <pat_rick> anyone else having issues with the software updates icon not updating properly?
[15:04] <pat_rick> after I update, the symbol stay stuck in "updates available" mode
[15:08] <BluesKaj> pat_rick, i just hide that icon and update in the terminal
[15:10] <pat_rick> BluesKaj: so you have the same issue?
[15:10] <pat_rick> I guess hiding it might be the simplest solution
[15:11] <BluesKaj> yeah, but I'm in 15.10 beta, so i expect small issues like that ...I don't need to be reminded to update anyway , i do so every day.
[15:13] <BluesKaj> to me it's like someone\ telling me to eat my breakfast :-)
[15:15] <pat_rick> ah well, maybe it will get a fix eventually
[15:17] <BluesKaj> plasma 5 still has alot of issues, and the small issues and annoyances that don't affect the the system stability are on the back burner atm
[15:17] <pat_rick> i see
[15:18] <pat_rick> well, incidentally it's still the first kde that I considered using
[15:18] <pat_rick> didn't like previous iterations all that much for some reason
[15:18] <pat_rick> but it's true that there are a lot of minor things that I have noticed
[15:19] <pat_rick> although that's pretty much a given for most linux software, imo
[15:27] <BluesKaj>  I'm not a fan of the the new plasma 5 in KDE, there seems to be a lot of regression IMO..dropped features etc
[15:28] <BluesKaj> antway , have to reboot
[15:45] <Swipe-> Is it just me or does everyone else have random baloo-file issues where one cpu core gets locked at 100% usage. Stopping and starting balooctl fixes it until the next time. I've tried deleteing ~/.local/share/baloo and reanbling first run in the config file to initiate a reindex
[16:12] <MoonUnit`> if you irc client is logging chat try excluding it from being searched, mine used to get stuck on logs from konversation.
[16:17] <Swipe-> ok cool, may also exclude .xsession-errors
[16:23] <Yarosh> hello Everybody
[16:23] <Yarosh> I came here to as a technical question, since I cannot find anything on the subject via Google
[16:24] <Yarosh> *to ask
[16:24] <Yarosh> is there anybody willing to help?
[16:25] <Yarosh> well... i'll leave it here anyway - maybe someone will know. So, I am using KUbuntu 15.04 at the moment (on a laptop) and attached an Apple (wired) keyboard. I would like to map the right command key to be a right Alt key. Is that possible?
[16:40] <Yarosh> anyone even reading this?
[16:42] <pat_rick> Yarosh: It's a pretty unusual question, I think
[16:44] <pat_rick> hm, maybe have a look at settings->hardware->input device and then go to  advanced settings
[16:44] <pat_rick> maybe you find something there
[16:44] <pat_rick> I guess there should be a way to modify keymaps as well, but I don't know about any
[16:50] <Yarosh> thank you. I went there but such option does not exist. It only allows to change alt/ctrl/win key behaviour
[16:50] <Yarosh> anyway, in the meantime I posted a question in Ubuntu forums.
[16:51] <lordievader> Yarosh: Sounds like you want to checkout xmodmap.
[16:51] <Yarosh> i saw some posts about it but all of them were for older version of Ubuntu
[16:52] <lordievader> X hasn't changed that much ;)
[16:52] <Yarosh> ok - will give it a try then. Thank you very much
[16:52] <Simonious> I'm seeing core dumps..  when this happens I'm used to seeing a core file, where are they going?  Are they turned off?
[16:58] <deadlydud> .. and a n00b just entered ;-)
[16:58] <deadlydud> kubuntu site looks "spiffy". nice work dudes.
[16:59] <deadlydud> my only prayer .. make sure krunner *never* segfaults
[17:01] <Okitain> hello my darlings.
[17:01] <Okitain> i think i will consider myself a noob at least until i make my own deb build of kde5
[17:04] <lordievader> Okitain: Does building KDE suffice too?
[17:05] <Okitain> lordievader: isn't that exactly what i said..?
[17:06] <lordievader> Okitain: No, building KDE doesn't necessarily mean as a package ;)
[17:06] <Okitain> lordievader: oh i'm sure i can do it with whatever make is there
[17:07] <Okitain> lordievader: but packaging is another level of challenge, ain't it
[17:07] <lordievader> Okitain: That I do not know ;)
[17:07] <lordievader> The packages I've build are nothing like what the Kubuntu team does.
[18:34] <spacebug^> Hello. Does Kubuntu use X or is it like Ubuntu that has moved to Wayland(?)
[18:38] <Okitain> spacebug^: if Ubuntu moved to wayland i am a giraffe
[18:40] <spacebug^> ehm.. they did not?
[18:40] <lordievader> spacebug^: Both Kubuntu and Ubuntu still use X.
[18:40] <spacebug^> Oh. Well ok then. Thanks :)
[19:04] <Okitain> did we just see a netsplit?
[19:05] <lordievader> Not here.
[19:09] <ThiagoAderaldo> Congratulations Kubuntu Team for the new amasing web site!
[19:14] <austin6598> i installed this and when i try to start the dameon with start onedrive-d it wont run: https://github.com/xybu/onedrive-d
[19:14] <austin6598> start: Name "com.ubuntu.Upstart" does not exist
[20:03] <lordievader> austin6598: Are you running 15.04?
[20:03] <austin6598>  <lordievader> yes
[20:04] <lordievader> austin6598: Vivid doesn't use Upstart, it uses Systemd.
[20:05] <austin6598> lordievader> so how can i start the dameon with systemd
[20:05] <vivid>  /etc/init.d/<name> start
[20:06] <lordievader> austin6598: It's better to write a systemd service file for it.
[20:06] <lordievader> http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.service.html
[20:27] <Guest87106> Hi everyone, I'm just trying Kubuntu 15.04 on a virtual machine and actually I would like to understand if is possible to have the old aspect on window decoration and icons, is it possible ?
[20:29] <Guest87106> about window decoration I can get some other version of Oxigen but I did'n find the original one, I think would be a good idea to have it available along with the others
[20:33] <bprompt> hmmm dunno myself, I run 12.04
[20:35] <Guest87106> I'm using 14.04 and probablly I'll wait until the next LTS, but I really love the old style of Kde and I would like to keep it even on plasma 5, hopefully it will be possible
[20:40] <getpwnam> i've just installed kubuntu 15.10 beta, and I'm trying to install pipelight (from here: http://pipelight.net/cms/install/installation-ubuntu.html). Steps one and two have been successfully completed, but when I try step 3 I get: E: Unable to locate package pipelight-multi
[20:42] <lordievader> getpwnam: Support for wily is in #ubuntu+1
[20:42] <antequil> he guys what is the login for the latest release of kunbuntu, live cd?
[20:42] <getpwnam> lordievader: thanks
[20:42] <antequil> I tried unbuntu without success
[20:45] <Guest87106> anyway plasma 5 seems to work very well even on a virtual machine, so congratulation to anyone worked on it and thanks for the great job you did ;)
[20:47] <antequil> it does look awesome, but im having a hard time making it work on my machine...
[20:49] <Guest87106> well about the aspect I like more the old style and I really hope it will be possible to have it exactly like it was
[21:29] <anna`> Gotta say folks, 15.04 is pretty F****** pretty ;x
[21:31] <biosphere__> hello
[21:32] <soee> hiho