[12:13] <kibbuntu> 1
[12:14] <cpk1> kibbuntu: you cant start kopete from tty1, its just odd that something like kopete would cause a complete lockup
[12:15] <BluesKaj> dunno if beryl runs on dapper
[12:15] <kibbuntu> however thanx vega and cpk^_^
[12:17] <Eltran> I R NOOB U
[12:18] <hydr0> hello all
[12:19] <flaccid> BluesKaj: compiz perhaps?
[12:19] <flaccid> !compiz
[12:19] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:21] <cntb> http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?arcane01.wav=arcane still brings install missing plugins on my FF@ in dapper
[12:21] <LeeJunFan> how do you ident a pcmcia card now that cardctl is gone? lspcmcia is crap - nothing is implemented yet.
[12:21] <cntb> http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?arcane01.wav=arcane still brings install missing plugins on my FF2 in dapper
[12:21] <cntb> soryy repeating
[12:22] <Kotter> re
[12:25] <BluesKaj> cntb, did you install the mplayer plugin
[12:26] <koyo001> helo
[12:26] <vegasmcpc> what do you guys recommend for a file system for a large raid 5 array?
[12:27] <koyo001> i have a problem
[12:27] <cntb> it is not in repos just downloaded from http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=mplayerplug-in&filename=mplayerplug-in-2.80.tar.gz&use_mirror=heanet
[12:27] <koyo001> try to do add remove
[12:27] <koyo001> but it says another system is running
[12:27] <vegasmcpc> !reiser
[12:27] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[12:27] <koyo001> the add remove
[12:27] <vegasmcpc> !xfs
[12:28] <ubotu> xfs: X font server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 192 kB
[12:29] <koyo001> anyone able to help me with this problem
[12:31] <LeeJunFan> !adeptfix | koyo001
[12:31] <ubotu> koyo001: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:32] <vegasmcpc> !ext2
[12:32] <vegasmcpc> !ext3
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[12:39] <willy> alguien sabe como compilar c
[12:39] <willy> codigo c
[12:39] <willy> #kubuntu-es
[12:40] <LjL> !build-essential | willy
[12:40] <ubotu> willy: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:40] <LjL> gcc nombrefichero.c -o nombreoutput
[12:41] <willy> a pero fijate
[12:41] <willy> que me hablaban de un compilar tipo borland c
[12:41] <willy> llamado anjuta
[12:41] <[GuS] > willy, here is in english only
[12:41] <willy> pero ya lo baje
[12:41] <willy> ok in english
[12:41] <willy> i'msorry
[12:42] <willy> the compilator anjuta how see what have me
[12:42] <willy> ?
[12:42] <[GuS] > =)
[12:43] <cpk1> willy: you want to see if you have anjuta installed?
[12:44] <willy> yea,
[12:44] <cpk1> willy: aptitude show anjuta
[12:44] <willy> i download with synaptic
[12:44] <willy> ok ok
[12:46] <willy> ok ok i have anjuta installed
[12:46] <cntb> BluesKaj: too much voodoo in install FF2 lib  is in  /usr/local/lib/firefox-2.0
[12:47] <cntb> BluesKaj: found an script in /usr/bin/firefox
[12:47] <cpk1> willy: there is also anjuta-common and anjuta-dev don't know if you want those too but you can use aptitude show to check for those as well
[12:47] <cntb> so how can a mplayerplugin happily compile ? BluesKaj what a mess ?
[12:51] <willy> ok cpk1
[12:51] <willy> tanks
[12:51] <willy> thanks
[12:53] <cntb> firefox is in some exotic place
[12:53] <cntb> how can I trace a working app in memory
[12:54] <cntb> will ps aux  give me location of binary?
[01:03] <DonMCN> Can somebody help me with setting up Java on Kubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake?
[01:04] <DonMCN> !java
[01:04] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:07] <DonMCN> !restricted
[01:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:09] <en1gma> whats the command to fix-unionfs
[01:09] <en1gma> i do 'fix-unionfs' in term and it dont work
[01:09] <en1gma> -search fix
[01:10] <en1gma> !fix
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <blup> !help
[01:10] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:10] <en1gma> !fix-unionfs
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix-unionfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <en1gma> !help fix
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <coreymon77> hi
[01:11] <en1gma> hello
[01:11] <coreymon77> my sound is still not working
[01:11] <en1gma> im using kubuntu 6.06 live dvd and need to update and cant do it cause i cant remember the fix-unionfs command
[01:11] <en1gma> can someone help me
[01:13] <DonMCN> you don't update with the cd
[01:13] <DonMCN> you need to install Kubuntu 6.06 before you can update
[01:13] <en1gma> i thought i could down load some apps to memory
[01:13] <fanscore> !fr
[01:13] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:13] <DonMCN> i have never tried that, though it seems illogical
[01:14] <en1gma> i just want to get nmap
[01:15] <DonMCN> en1gma, i am sorry but i do believe you must install kubuntu before you can update or download any programs.
[01:15] <en1gma> no ive dloaded before i think*
[01:15] <en1gma> but i know i need to do a fix-unionfs
[01:15] <en1gma> can someone tell me the exact command to do that
[01:15] <DonMCN> !fix-unionfs
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix-unionfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <DonMCN> !unionfs
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unionfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <DonMCN> I am not sure what you mean..
[01:16] <DonMCN> Very sorry :(
[01:16] <BluesKaj> en1gma, you can try dling but you it'llbe difficult to save the file and then execute it
[01:16] <DonMCN> I do not know what fix-unionfs is
[01:17] <en1gma> man i thought i dlaoded and ran it before all from ram...maybe i was think dsl
[01:17] <en1gma> fix-unionfs fixes something then i do an apt-get update
[01:17] <en1gma> then i do the repositories
[01:17] <en1gma> then it usually dloads
[01:18] <blup> hi
[01:18] <en1gma> hi
[01:18] <blup> en1gma you can try http://kanotix.com/FAQ-id_cat-15.html#q60
[01:19] <en1gma> maybe that is what i tried
[01:19] <en1gma> i got a few live cds and sometimes i mix up kubunto with kanotix
[01:19] <en1gma> blup thanks
[01:19] <en1gma> bbiam
[01:21] <mtv> does vmware server support usb devices?
[01:22] <HymnToLife[] > mtv, yes
[01:23] <mtv> alright, so in theory i should be able to get a printer/scanner to install under vmware
[01:23] <HymnToLife> in theory :p
[01:23] <Jrex> anyone have a fingerprint scanner that works both in kubuntu and windows?
[01:25] <lgc> Hi! Does anyone know what do I have to install in order to have access to voice on my IM client?
[01:25] <fanscore> !fr
[01:25] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:26] <lgc> gnomefreak, hi.
[01:31] <jmichaelx> !restricted formats | badpenguin4543
[01:31] <ubotu> badpenguin4543: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:31] <lgc> Hi! Does anyone know what do I have to install in order to have access to voice on my IM client?
[01:36] <tuna> Yo!
[01:36] <tuna> Ok, something ain't quite right with apt-get on this comp
[01:37] <tuna> you see, i was trying to install ubuntu-desktop
[01:37] <tuna> well... the problems kind of complicated... let me pastebin the terminal history to you...
[01:39] <tuna> http://rafb.net/p/Gf0OOx44.html
[01:39] <tuna> please help!
[01:39] <poningru> waah?
[01:39] <poningru> hold on
[01:39] <tuna> i know, it's really long
[01:40] <tuna> so is there a way to fix it or am i better off backing up all my files and reinstalling?
[01:40] <poningru> err wow
[01:40] <poningru> yeah thats pretty fracked up
[01:41] <tuna> so should i reinstall?
[01:41] <devilsadvocate> tuna, try doing sudo apt-get -f install
[01:41] <tuna> ok
[01:41] <poningru> sudo apt-get -f install ubuntu-desktop
[01:42] <devilsadvocate> no
[01:42] <devilsadvocate> just -f install
[01:42] <tuna> oops
[01:42] <tuna> i did sudo apt-get -f install ubuntu-desktop
[01:42] <tuna> crap
[01:42] <yuriy> can anybody on feisty try this: launch amarok, change your keyboard layout/variant, then try to edit a tag
[01:42] <devilsadvocate> it wont recognize the command
[01:42] <devilsadvocate> ir'll jump out immediately
[01:43] <yuriy> err nvm it's not just amarok
[01:43] <devilsadvocate> yuriy, #ubuntu+1
[01:43] <tuna> devilsadvocate was right. ok, trying your suggestion
[01:45] <tuna> devilsadvocate  it didn't work http://rafb.net/p/A2He4B45.html
[01:46] <devilsadvocate> tuna, back up your data
[01:46] <devilsadvocate> then do sudo rm /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[01:46] <tuna> like my personal files?
[01:46] <devilsadvocate> hmm
[01:46] <devilsadvocate> no
[01:46] <devilsadvocate> wait
[01:47] <tuna> ok
[01:47] <devilsadvocate> resart your computer and try -f install once again
[01:48] <tuna> ok, brb then
[01:56] <tuna> ok, the weirdest thing
[01:56] <tuna> when i logged in, it went straight to Gnome!
[01:56] <tuna> but if feels kinda slow...
[01:57] <tuna> when i ran that command, something weird happened...
[01:57] <tuna> hang on, let me pull up pastebin
[02:00] <dxdt> Can anyone recommend some good applets for me to install now that I"m running KDE for the first time.
[02:00] <dxdt> ?
[02:00] <tuna> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6653/
[02:01] <tuna> devilsadvocate still there?
[02:01] <tuna> dxdt akregator
[02:02] <carl> hi
[02:02] <carl> uhm
[02:03] <adydas> !tvout
[02:03] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[02:03] <tuna> devilsadvocate so now i'm in Gaim, and i'm not quite sure what i should do...
[02:03] <carl> I have a logitech mouse with navigational buttons on the side.. MX1000 mouse... but how do I enable the "back" and "forward" function when browsing the web? It's a fuction i really miss :s
[02:03] <dxdt> Cool, any others?  Any applets that are your favorites in here?
[02:04] <carl> !logitech
[02:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <tuna> dxdt make sure Konqueror's installed. It will quickly become your best friend
[02:05] <slyfox> Help, my video card is not supported by latest 9xxx series nvidia drivers. I have Nvidia GGorce GO 7700 card, what do I do ?
[02:05] <adydas> whys it not supported
[02:06] <adydas> i have a 7900 and it works fine
[02:06] <dxdt> Konqueror  I do have installed.  I installed the knetwork manager app.  kweather.  ummm  let's see..  any other fun programs for KDE anyone would recommend?  Up until now, I've only used Gnome
[02:06] <slyfox> adydas: did you use the envy script ? How did you install the drivers ?
[02:07] <adydas> slyfox:
[02:07] <dxdt> is it possible to do video preview with Konqueror, so far I haven't been able to
[02:07] <mitxel> hola
[02:07] <tuna> dxdt SuperKaramba can be fun, but be careful of the widgets you install, they could cause it to crash
[02:07] <tuna> dxdt i'm not sure...
[02:07] <slyfox> adydas: did you use the envy script ? How did you install the drivers ?
[02:07] <adydas> slyfox: apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-source-2.6.17
[02:08] <dxdt> is SuperKaramba the program that has widgets that are compatible with the Yahoo widgets?  Or something like that?  maybe this is a kde 4 thing but I remember hearing something about this
[02:08] <adydas> Somone here told me about it, did it and it worked
[02:08] <slyfox> adydas: so you used the one that is in the edgy guide, I used the latest 9xxx series for Beryl
[02:08] <adydas> dxdt: ill get you a screenshot if you want
[02:08] <adydas> Oh
[02:08] <adydas> sorry no beryl here
[02:09] <tuna> dxdt i don't know if it's compatible with Yahoo widgets. you could try, i doubt it would hurt anything...
[02:09] <tuna> devilsadvocate are you there?
[02:09] <dxdt> is SuperKaramba generally considered "the" widget program for KDE? or could it have been another widget program that exists out there?
[02:10] <tuna> dxdt i think SK is built off of Karamba (not super), but i'm not certain
[02:11] <Jucato> dxdt: it is
[02:11] <adydas> i belive its considerd to be the widget program for KDE
[02:11] <adydas> and gdesklets for gome ?
[02:11] <adydas> gnome?
[02:11] <tuna> maybe i'm wrong
[02:11] <tuna> eh, whatever
[02:11] <adydas> SK has alot of support
[02:11] <tuna> hey, how do you nudge in an IRC?
[02:12] <Jucato> yes, superkaramba is a sort of "evolution" of karamba. but karamba doesn't exists anymore afaik
[02:12] <mikes1> How do I install beryl in herd?
[02:13] <HymnToLife> tuna, you don't
[02:14] <tuna> hymntolife so is there any kind of "attention getter?" i want to get devilsadvocate's attention, cuz he won't respond...
[02:14] <tuna> he was helping me before
[02:14] <mikes1> Where can I d/load beryl core from?
[02:15] <HymnToLife> just say his name
[02:15] <HymnToLife> depending on how he configured his client, it will do something
[02:15] <tuna> wait, how to i whisper?
[02:16] <tuna> so do i
[02:16] <tuna> devilsadvocate please help me!
[02:16] <adydas> mikes1: http://www.beryl-project.org/releases.php
[02:17] <hellcattrav> ^^true
[02:18] <Jucato> dwidmann: so mentioning your name in IRC, with your client set to notify/highlight you, isn't enough? :)
[02:18] <dwidmann> Gives the same effect really, unless I set things otherwise
[02:18] <dwidmann> I think I included that in the /etc
[02:19] <dwidmann> It has to do the notify though really, the highlight truely isn't enough
[02:20] <slyfox> Why is it when I got here "/" all the folders are visible, it used to be that only /media and /home were visible. Show hidden files is unchecked. Is my KDE broken ?
[02:20] <Jucato> !hidden | slyfox
[02:20] <ubotu> slyfox: Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[02:20] <dwidmann> Heck, they may have been removed already, hard to say
[02:20] <slyfox> Jucato: yeah, but they are suppsed to be hidden, why are they visible ?
[02:20] <tuna> i hate that feature!
[02:20] <margis> hello all
[02:20] <tuna> hey
[02:20] <margis> i have a problem
[02:21] <tuna> me too
[02:21] <tuna> don't we all?
[02:21] <dwidmann> I hear that a lot
[02:21] <margis> with  share  internet connection
[02:21] <margis> can i ask?
[02:21] <tuna> sure
[02:21] <tuna> but i probly cant answer
[02:21] <Jucato> slyfox: you must have edited something? or are you on feisty?
[02:21] <dwidmann> tuna: I don't ..... unless you count that long list of problems I'm hiding behind my back.
[02:21] <tuna> dwidmann i do
[02:21] <tuna> :D
[02:22] <slyfox> Jucato: neither. I just install kde 3.5.6 same installation works fine on another machine
[02:22] <tuna> anyway, margis, go on
[02:22] <margis> so...i   use a  router  that  i  connect it  with my pc  with ethernet...i use kubuntu 6.1 in my pc  nad  i want to  share my internet  with my laptop
[02:22] <coreymon77> i hear that kde 4 is going to be able to be put on any os
[02:22] <margis> i  got  confuysed with the  ips
[02:22] <coreymon77> is that trie?
[02:22] <margis> and  i  didnt  make  anything
[02:22] <coreymon77> true*
[02:23] <Jucato> slyfox: I'm not really sure. just check the files mentioned in that wiki if they still exist
[02:23] <dwidmann> coreymon77: only the programs, not the actual desktop environent, if I rmeember right.
[02:23] <coreymon77> oh
[02:23] <tuna> can't KDE be put on any unix?
[02:23] <coreymon77> well, atleast ill still be able to use konv when i get a mac
[02:23] <margis> is  there any programm to  make  auto  share  the connection?
[02:23] <Jucato> KDE 4 *apps* **can** be made to run on win32 and Mac OS
[02:23] <dwidmann> tuna: yes
[02:23] <coreymon77> and still use mac os
[02:23] <tuna> certainly won't see it on winows
[02:23] <margis> except  the   firestarter
[02:23] <tuna> *windows
[02:24] <slyfox> Jucato: "check the files mentioned in that wiki if they still exist"  how do you mean ?
[02:24] <Jucato> but that depends on whether the maintainers
[02:24] <margis> so can anyone help me or not?
[02:24] <dwidmann> Jucato: kde programs yes, but it won't be the whole deal ported if I remember right (ie: kicker, kwin, kdesktop, etc)
[02:24] <Jucato> will want to port them
[02:24] <tuna> somebody can, margis. i can't, though...
[02:24] <Jucato> dwidmann: theoretically, they can be. but some devs don't want to bother
[02:24] <tuna> margis just be patient...
[02:24] <margis> ok   iwait
[02:25] <margis> any with   share connection?
[02:25] <Jucato> slyfox: read the wiki page I gave above. there are files that are mentioned there that affect the behavior of this hidden-root feature
[02:25] <margis> i  need  only  2-3  numbers
[02:25] <tuna> margis did you check the docs, ubuntu wiki, etc.?
[02:25] <dwidmann> Weren't there X11 deps on some of those programs or something that would have made it take more effort? (especially for kwin)
[02:26] <margis> yes  i  saw them
[02:26] <margis> i  google   2  hours  now
[02:26] <tuna> brb all
[02:27] <margis> is  this  a  help-channel or not?
[02:27] <dwidmann> margis: yes
[02:27] <margis> nice
[02:27] <dwidmann> "Kubuntu Support Channel |...."
[02:27] <margis> i see many people
[02:27] <margis> nobody has a  share connection at home?
[02:28] <margis> i dont  thing  so
[02:28] <Jucato> !patience
[02:28] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:28] <dwidmann> margis: keep in mind there probably aren't more than 10 people who are actually here right now
[02:28] <margis> the  others?
[02:28] <dwidmann> Idle
[02:29] <dwidmann> away
[02:29] <margis> and   why idle?
[02:29] <dwidmann> whatever
[02:29] <margis> just  to say...ahh  we have many people?
[02:29] <margis> i dont  think this is  helpful
[02:29] <dwidmann> dunno
[02:29] <dwidmann> Some of them stay on 24/7 despite only being on at certain hours
[02:29] <dwidmann> etc
[02:29] <Jucato> you ask them. we don't bother to ask them since they're not here
[02:30] <Jucato> they've been here when I first came in a half a year ago
[02:30] <margis> i  use linux  for 10days and  i  always  google  for  my problems....but  if i dont  find  a  solution?what i must do?
[02:31] <zanella> man
[02:31] <coreymon77> margis: ask for help here
[02:31] <margis> i ask
[02:31] <margis> but  i dont  get response
[02:31] <coreymon77> just be patient
[02:31] <margis> xmmm
[02:31] <coreymon77> we are all volunteers here
[02:32] <coreymon77> ask your question and be patient
[02:32] <coreymon77> if someone knows how to help you
[02:32] <Jucato> margis: not everyone here might know how to solve your problem. we're users just like you, trying to help others with what we do know
[02:32] <coreymon77> they will eventially
[02:32] <coreymon77> eventually*
[02:32] <margis> ok
[02:33] <dwidmann> margis: the topic of internet connection sharing does come up every once in a while. I don't really know anything about it though
[02:33] <Mena> how to set cron to run scadual program regural
[02:33] <dx11101> anyone know how to get 5.1 sound using xmms?
[02:33] <zanella> connection sharing is set through iptables_nat
[02:33] <margis> zanella  easy to say  hard  to  do
[02:33] <margis> i ma  noob in linux
[02:34] <margis> i  used to have windows  for 8 years
[02:34] <margis> ok nevermind guys,,,,i  go to google  again
[02:35] <coreymon77> margis: dont worry, just be patient, someone will answer you eventually
[02:39] <bajuzam> Hi Folks ;-)
[02:39] <[Relic] > Hello :)
[02:40] <bajuzam> i am the stupid one here !
[02:41] <[Relic] > installed something that broke the gui somehow and now I only get text log in.  I think it was one of the clock apps since I was trying to find one I want.  So I need to make sure I have all the steps necessary to find and extract them to see if I can get my setup back.
[02:42] <[Relic] > What combo of dpkg and info to tell me only the clock apps?  w/o my doc pages I can't really tell  would something like   dpkg -l *clock*    work?
[02:43] <Irayo> I have two network cards, what's the best way to make sure one of them doesn't start up at boot?
[02:44] <bajuzam> dont know , sorry .... i needed about 5 houres to get my wlan wpa-psk encryptet
[02:44] <Irayo> yeah I just finished my wpa-psk config for Kubuntu
[02:44] <Irayo> and now I need to make sure my second wireless card (which doesn't support WPA) doesn't get brought up
[02:45] <mrkde> Does anyone know what that doom styled drop down shell is called and if I can get it for Kubuntu
[02:45] <bajuzam> u cant put this card out of youre pc ?
[02:51] <dxdt> What package do I need to install or what do I need to configure so that my fonts don't look gross under KDE?  I don't know what package it is, but if you install kubuntu-desktop, the problem is gone so I know something is done.  I don't want to install Kubuntu-desktop though because it installs soooo many other programs I don't want
[02:54] <DonMCN> Can somebody help me with installing Java 6
[02:54] <SlackRat> mr kde, the quake style dropdown console ??
[02:54] <SlackRat> its called YaKuake......
[02:54] <SlackRat> avail in the repos
[02:58] <Jucato> DonMCN: enable the -backports repositories, then "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin"
[02:59] <dx11101> anyone know how to get sound to come out of more then two speakers?
[03:00] <lameriuga> Please Help
[03:01] <lameriuga> Can somebody help me
[03:01] <lameriuga> ???
[03:01] <Jucato> !somebody
[03:02] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:02] <lameriuga> ok
[03:03] <lameriuga> I made some modify in /etc/sysctl.conf ,  and how can I save what i modify, and to go to command line?
[03:05] <dx11101> how to get 5.1 channels audio
[03:05] <HymnToLife> ubotu, tell dx11101 about sound | dx11101, see the private message from ubotu.
[03:06] <malik> is there any utility in kubuntu to program the comp to auto turn off on scheduled time?
[03:07] <Talaman> "the greeting application appears to be crashing" is the error i get
[03:07] <Talaman> any suggestions
[03:08] <dx11101> Kron Scheduler?
[03:09] <dx11101> okay i think if you install the package alsamixergui you can get 5.1 sound set up
[03:09] <malik> dx11101: is that for me?
[03:09] <dx11101> i could be wrong
[03:10] <dx11101> malik
[03:10] <dx11101> kron scheduler is where you create scheduled tasks but i have no idea how to use it yet
[03:10] <dx11101> eventually i want to set mine up to turn my computer off at 1:00am
[03:11] <Blu3> any recommendations for a GRUB linux distro for a 4G pendrive?  *ubuntu doesn't work because the installer insists on running it's own partition manager and neither the old nor new work because they don't recognize 2048b sectors.  neither can i manually do it because the part. manager doesn't recognize the existing partitions
[03:12] <DonMCN> Jucato brb im going to restart
[03:12] <Jucato> DonMCN: have you enabled the backports repository?
[03:12] <Jucato> er? why restart?
[03:12] <malik> dx11101: cant find it in repositories
[03:12] <DonMCN> yes i did in the adept manager
[03:13] <Jucato> DonMCN: er.. you better do this in the command line for now
[03:13] <DonMCN> I'
[03:13] <DonMCN> I'm not too well with the command line
[03:13] <Jucato> DonMCN: Java and Adept Manager won't be playing nice with each other until Feisty
[03:13] <Jucato> I'll just give you the commands. at least you already have backports enabled, right?
[03:13] <dx11101> it should have come with a basic install of kde
[03:13] <malik> Jucato: any idea about a package which can automate the turning off of computer?
[03:13] <DonMCN> yes i do
[03:14] <Jucato> malik: sorry, no idea
[03:14] <sharpie05> hi all
[03:14] <Jucato> DonMCN: ok, then, in Konsole, run "sudo apt-get update" (equivalent to Fetch Updates in Adept)
[03:14] <sharpie05> i need help with video acceleration
[03:14] <sharpie05> on my ibook g4
[03:15] <dwidmann> malik: I would just use cron ...
[03:15] <lameriuga> could someone tell me how to save what i have changed in /etc/sysctl.conf, please
[03:15] <Jucato> DonMCN: tell me when it's done fetching the updates
[03:16] <DonMCN> ok
[03:16] <sharpie05> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[03:16] <sharpie05> what does this mean?
[03:16] <DonMCN> its getting them
[03:16] <DonMCN> its done it said
[03:16] <sharpie05> i get that after i type glxinfo | grep direct
[03:16] <DonMCN> ok its done, go ahead
[03:16] <Jucato> DonMCN: "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin"
[03:16] <malik> dwidmann: can u tell me whats the package full name is and how do u use it?
[03:17] <DonMCN> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:17] <DonMCN> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:17] <dwidmann> malik: cron is already installed, to use it, open a terminal and type "sudo crontab -e"
[03:17] <Jucato> DonMCN: er? is Adept closed?
[03:17] <dwidmann> donmcn: or is another apt using program running?
[03:17] <dwidmann> else
[03:18] <dwidmann> !adeptfix | DonMCN
[03:18] <ubotu> DonMCN: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:18] <DonMCN> ok i did
[03:18] <sharpie05> does anybody know what it means?: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x
[03:18] <sharpie05> 4b
[03:18] <Jucato> DonMCN: closed adept now? run the apt-get install command again
[03:19] <DonMCN> yay now its working
[03:19] <DonMCN> its downloading very slowly :(
[03:19] <DonMCN> 177kb/sec
[03:19] <Jucato> at least it's downloading :)
[03:19] <DonMCN> on windows it was really fast, lol
[03:19] <Jucato> well you're downloading from the Ubuntu repository, not from Java's site
[03:20] <DonMCN> ohh
[03:20] <DonMCN> so it may be a bit more busy
[03:20] <oslo> hi http://pastebin.com/884939
[03:20] <sharpie05> ?
[03:20] <oslo>  i can't get /etc/hosts.deny to work properly i'd like to block errorsafe.com, here my hosts.deny: http://pastebin.com/884939
[03:21] <oslo> does anyone could help ?
[03:21] <dwidmann> malik: as for the format of the file, it looks like this: minutes | hours | day of month | month | day of week | command, use an asterisk to represent all at the same time
[03:22] <dwidmann> (seperated by spaces)
[03:22] <kreator_> hola
[03:22] <DonMCN> thank you very much java 6 successfully installed
[03:22] <kreator_> nesecito ayuda
[03:22] <Jucato> great
[03:22] <kreator_> Help necesito ayuda
[03:22] <Jucato> english please
[03:22] <DonMCN> ay, yo hablo espanol
[03:23] <sharpie05> you guys are all busy :(
[03:23] <gnyffel> I've installed Kubuntu, but due to some issues with booting, I've made the disk I installed grub on master, was slave before, but now, every time I upgrade the kernel it seems to like to edit my menu.lst to root(1,0) and use hdb1 instead of root(0,0), hda1, as it should. How would I correct that?
[03:23] <vioscar> HOLAS A TODOS PUEDE DECIRME QUIEN SABE COMO LOCALIZAR MI DISCO DURO EN KUBUNTU?
[03:23] <Jucato> !es
[03:23] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:23] <dwidmann> sharpie: I looked .... I'm not busy, just clueless
[03:23] <sharpie05> hmmmm
[03:24] <sharpie05> well, it seems to kill all my open gl apps
[03:24] <lameriuga> Jucato: could you tell me how to save what i have changed in /etc/sysctl.conf, please
[03:24] <Jucato> lameriuga: sorry, no clue
[03:24] <sharpie05> i tried xgl on an earlier install and nothing displayed correctly
[03:24] <kreator_> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[03:24] <kreator_> help!
[03:24] <kreator_> help!
[03:24] <DonMCN> kreator, tu hablas espanol o ingles?
[03:25] <kreator_> espaol
[03:25] <Jucato> !es | kreator_
[03:25] <ubotu> kreator_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:25] <sharpie05> and i get an error on boot telling me something about allocating something on device 0
[03:25] <sharpie05> sorry for the vagueness ill have to reboot to get more specific
[03:25] <dwidmann> sharpie05: what video card/video drivers do you have/use?
[03:26] <DonMCN> me llamo tu en un mensaje ahora
[03:26] <kreator_> ola necesito ayuda para poder instalar amsn como lo puedo hacer ?
[03:26] <kreator_> ola necesito ayuda para poder instalar amsn como lo puedo hacer ?
[03:26] <Jucato> DonMCN: please guide him to one of the -es channels
[03:26] <DonMCN> ok
[03:27] <Jucato> DonMCN: and tell him that he can use Kopete for MSN :)
[03:27] <DonMCN> kreator, necesitas ir al #kubuntu-es canal para ayuda en espanol
[03:27] <kreator_> no hay gente
[03:28] <sharpie05> to dwidmann:  i have a radeon mobility 9550 and i am using the ati drivers
[03:28] <sharpie05> i get error when using the radeon drivers but the system identifies it as a radeon(fglrx)
[03:28] <DonMCN> que es un problemo? necesitas ir al #kubuntu-es canal para ayuda en espanol, lo siento. tu no puedas recibir ayuda en este canal
[03:29] <dwidmann> Hmm, so are you using the "ati", "radeon" (no, right?), or the "fglrx" driver.
[03:29] <DonMCN> este canal es ingles solomente
[03:29] <DonMCN> Jucato he wont listen to me, lol
[03:29] <DonMCN> He's ignorante
[03:29] <Jucato> heh
[03:30] <Jucato> or just stubborn...
[03:30] <DonMCN> El es ignorante! Ir al canal $Kubuntu-es
[03:30] <Jucato> no name calling please :)
[03:30] <DonMCN> sorry
[03:30] <DonMCN> im trying to get him to go
[03:30] <DonMCN> lol
[03:30] <DonMCN> yo hablo ingles, espanol y francias
[03:31] <soulrider> kreator_: para ayuda anda a #kubuntu-es
[03:31] <Jucato> wow multi-lingual :)
[03:31] <soulrider> yo te ayudo, pero en ESE canal!
[03:31] <sharpie05> im using the ati driver
[03:31] <DonMCN> este canal es ingles solomente, no espanol. para ayuda en espanol ir al #Kubuntu-es
[03:31] <sharpie05> i tested the fglrx radeon driver and it went into an endless cycle of fullscreen red green blue white gray black
[03:31] <dwidmann> sharpie05: give the fglrx drive a try and see how it works??
[03:31] <dwidmann> !ati
[03:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:32] <sharpie05> ?
[03:32] <soulrider> hes not answering.....
[03:32] <Jucato> DonMCN: anyway, he stopped asking in spanish already, so I guess it's ok now
[03:32] <sharpie05> im on a mac if it makes a diff
[03:32] <dwidmann> It may ....
[03:32] <DonMCN> good point Jucato lol
[03:32] <DonMCN> i must agree
[03:32] <Jucato> DonMCN: he's already in those channels
[03:32] <DonMCN> oh lol
[03:33] <DonMCN> do other people see those things i get that say DonMCN: he's already in those channels or only me?
[03:34] <Jucato> other people see it too. but you would see that line highlighted (in red by default in Konversation)
[03:34] <Jucato> "only you would see"
[03:35] <[Relic] > Is there a way to fix a borken install
[03:36] <x04ty29er> i think
[03:36] <x04ty29er> you just reinstall
[03:36] <x04ty29er> then it will redownload and install
[03:36] <x04ty29er> or
[03:36] <x04ty29er> you have to find all the dependent packages too
[03:36] <x04ty29er> and reinstall them too
[03:36] <dwidmann> [Relic] : always, enough skill and effort and most any problem can be fixed. It's just a matter of whether it's worth the time and effort to fix it as opposed to the time and effort required for the reinstall ...
[03:36] <x04ty29er> lol
[03:37] <x04ty29er> its really not that hard
[03:37] <x04ty29er> I think
[03:37] <sharpie05> i just installed it today
[03:37] <[Relic] > adept didn't warn me something would break and stop the process  :(
[03:37] <sharpie05> and i have reinstalled it many times previously with no luck
[03:37] <sharpie05> :/
[03:37] <x04ty29er> adept manager doesnt like installers that require an agreement
[03:37] <Adydas> Does x log if x loads but a setting you put in the conf dont work? im trying to do tv out and i have no errors but i also have no working tv out
[03:37] <x04ty29er> it is best to do it manually
[03:37] <dwidmann> come to think of it, I think fglrx may only be for radeon 9500's and higher
[03:38] <sharpie05> well
[03:38] <sharpie05> i am on a 9550
[03:38] <dwidmann> x04ty29er: seems that it does in feisty, IIRC
[03:38] <Jucato> Adydas: try looking in /var/log
[03:38] <x04ty29er> dwidmann: what are you talking about again\?
[03:38] <Jucato> x04ty29er: that has been fixed in feisty
[03:38] <dwidmann> x04ty29er: this, that, and the other most likely.
[03:38] <[Relic] > I need to remove 2 files but then that will remove about 455M of system stuff aka the base system, due to the stupid way this is set up, question is can I somehow log the pkgs that it wants to remove and reinstall them?
[03:39] <x04ty29er> oh ok
[03:39] <dwidmann> [Relic] : apt-get --reinstall install packages
[03:39] <Adydas> juncato for what?
[03:39] <Adydas> the logs have nothing
[03:40] <Adydas> other than my last fail before i got nvidia drivers working right
[03:40] <Jucato> [Relic] : dpkg keeps a log of its activities... but you'd have to know when you installed/removed packages so you can search for them. /var/log/dpkg.log or one of the archives
[03:40] <Jucato> Adydas: hm.. ok no idea...
[03:41] <[Relic] > I would do it as extracting both of the packages and the imediately reinstalling all the removed packages expect those 2, just not sure how to do it exactly so O don't screw things up further
[03:41] <mrkde> Anybody know how to install automatix2 for Kubuntu?
[03:41] <dwidmann> [Relic] : additionally, so long as it doesn't try to remove apt, it can be worthwhile to just let it remove them, regardless, and then reinstall the removed packages
[03:41] <[Relic] > dwidmann: can't tell what it wants to remove since it scrolls off the screen
[03:42] <Jucato> !automatix | mrkde
[03:42] <ubotu> mrkde: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:42] <Jucato> mrkde: might want to try going to the automatix channel
[03:42] <soulrider> !paste
[03:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:43] <[Relic] > dwidmann: can I force apt-get into a file via >> and then see the info?
[03:44] <will> I'm locked off my desktop.  I'm only on it since I modified my xorg.conf to use radeon drivers instead of FGLRX.  I have a radeon x700 and it was working great up untill 5 minutes ago.  How can I get back into my Desktop with fglrx drivers running?
[03:44] <Adydas> Should i take from my logfile this the tv outs working
[03:44] <Adydas> (--) NVIDIA(0):     AOC LM727 (CRT-0)
[03:44] <Adydas> (--) NVIDIA(0):     NVIDIA TV Encoder (TV-0)
[03:44] <Adydas> (--) NVIDIA(0): AOC LM727 (CRT-0): 400.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
[03:44] <Adydas> (--) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA TV Encoder (TV-0): 400.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
[03:44] <dwidmann> [Relic] : sometimes I can manage to scroll with shift + pageup/pagedown
[03:44] <dwidmann> depends on the system and the keyboard I think
[03:45] <[Relic] > guess I try it, worse case scenario is I hve to reinstall everything anyway
[03:45] <[Relic] > back later, maybe
[03:45] <[Relic] > thanks for the info
[03:46] <will> I'm locked off my desktop.  I'm only on it since I modified my xorg.conf to use radeon drivers instead of FGLRX.  I have a radeon x700 and it was working great up untill 5 minutes ago.  How can I get back into my Desktop with fglrx drivers running?
[03:47] <[Relic] > how do I force x to start or attempt to start?
[03:48] <dwidmann> will: well, you could modify the xorg.conf again, could you not?
[03:48] <dwidmann> [Relic] : startx
[03:48] <[Relic] > thanks
[03:48] <will> dwidmann: Modify to what?  If I put it back to fglrx it crashes again
[03:48] <fanscore> !fr
[03:48] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:48] <dwidmann> will: then what works?
[03:49] <dwidmann> Maybe vesa?
[03:49] <stephans> has anyone done a pxe/unattended install of ubuntu?
[03:49] <will> dwidmann: That's not the problem.  Vesa crashes to,  "radeon" will run.  But FGLRX wont, and I need FGLRX since I use 3D extensivly and opensource doesn't cut it for them
[03:50] <stephans> I am trying to use kickstart
[03:52] <Adydas> If i use pastebin anyone want to check out my tvout / monitor settings see if ive made a silly booboo to stop it working?
[03:53] <Adydas> !paste
[03:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:53] <will> Alright I re depmodded, aticonfigged, etc etc.  Lets see if it works now
[03:54] <thecolorifix> ok, I'm a total irc AND linux n00b, anyone willing to help me install my soundblaster soundcard? or suggest a good tutorial/walkthrough?
[03:54] <thecolorifix> also, is this where I should be asking this?
[03:55] <thecolorifix> anyone?
[03:55] <soulrider> !ntfs
[03:55] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:55] <soulrider> !soundblaster
[03:55] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[03:56] <thecolorifix> thanks
[03:56] <Adydas> X11 Experts, Please check this out and let me know of any ovious muckups on my part, it works as in X still loads just no tv output screen avabile
[03:56] <Adydas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6659/
[03:56] <soulrider> !ntfs-3g
[03:56] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:57] <thecolorifix> ok, this is no help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[03:59] <fanscore> !fr
[03:59] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:59] <fakepatriot> !nvidia
[03:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:59] <thecolorifix> alright, I'm trying not to be a pest or anything, but this is kind of my last hope, so is there anyone willing to walk me through installing my soundblaster soundcard in kubuntu, or at least know of a good walkthrough online?
[04:01] <soulrider> thecolorifix: i dont ahve a card so i cant help you,a nd the channel is kinda quiet, have you tried the forums ?
[04:02] <thecolorifix> I have not, where are they located?
[04:02] <soulrider> http"//ubuntuforums.org
[04:04] <sidoti> algummm  brasileiro
[04:04] <Jucato> !br
[04:04] <ubotu> pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[04:08] <nixternal> oslo: you still around?
[04:09] <BluesKaj> !soundblaster
[04:09] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[04:09] <oslo> nixternal> yes i am ?
[04:09] <oslo> i am !
[04:10] <oslo> nixternal> about hosts.deny ??
[04:10] <nixternal> ya
[04:10] <nixternal> is this ssh attacks?
[04:10] <oslo> could u help ?
[04:10] <oslo> i don't know
[04:10] <underdog5004> nixternal, what's happening, now?
[04:10] <nixternal> i.e., dictionary attacks trying to log in as different users
[04:11] <oslo> now the dns errorsafe.com can be pinged from my system.
[04:11] <BluesKaj> !soundblaster > thecolorifix
[04:11] <Toshibi> Someone getting attacked?
[04:12] <underdog5004> bummer...is your password a dictionary word (ie. not strong)?
[04:12] <oslo> yes by errorsafe.com when i'm webbrowsing
[04:12] <thecolorifix> ok, so after looking at the forums the card I have is an xfi which there is currently NO support for, however I have onboard sound on the asrock k7vm2 motherboard, anyone help with getting THAT to work?
[04:12] <Toshibi> Do you have a packet sniffer running?
[04:12] <Toshibi> Etherreal or something?
[04:12] <nixternal> nah, if you run a ssh server on the standard port 22 and it is open to the world, there are bots that will automically start trying to do so
[04:12] <nixternal> that is why it is recommended that you change your ssh port
[04:13] <oslo> is there someone about /etc/hosts.deny ?
[04:13] <oslo> does nixternal is a bot?
[04:13] <nixternal> oslo: my /etc/hosts.deny is blank, nothing there, since I moved my ports I don't get the attacks anymore
[04:13] <underdog5004> cool
[04:14] <oslo> nixternal> i just want to block teh dns : errorsafe.com .......;
[04:14] <Jucato> lol @ nixternal bot :)
[04:14] <oslo> ^^
[04:14] <Jucato> mine is blank too
[04:14] <nixternal> hehe
[04:15] <bkudria> i am trying to run a precompiled, old version of gcc (for a project, not under my control).  I've extracted the archive given to mee, and it contains 'gcc', a binary file with the executable bit set.  i try to run it with './gcc', but i get the error './gcc: no such file or directory' - what could be wrong?
[04:15] <SlackRat> is there any reason why certain threads in kubuntu forum dont have a reply button, to a dd a reply?
[04:15] <nixternal> oslo: putting errorsafe.com prevents errorsafe.com IP address from connecting to your computer, not you connecting to them
[04:15] <Jucato> bkudria: are you in the directory where that gcc executable is in?
[04:15] <bkudria> Jucato: yep
[04:15] <nixternal> chmod +x gcc
[04:15] <nixternal> ?
[04:15] <underdog5004> nixternal, lol, I have my port 22 on my router forwarded to my server with a REALLY strong password...from there I can ssh into any of my home computers.
[04:15] <dwidmann> SlackRat: well, some threads are locked
[04:15] <bkudria> yep, the executable bit is set
[04:16] <SlackRat> all topic icons seem to imply its not locked, just a normal topic
[04:16] <oslo> nixternal> so if i try to connect to them it's normal i can reach them ?
[04:16] <nixternal> underdog5004: ya, I have strong passwords as well, but if you don't enable or setup log rotation and don't have a seperate /var partition, it can fill up quickly
[04:16] <SlackRat> ah, it is old though....could that be why? its last summer under off topic....
[04:16] <nixternal> bot attacks on ssh will fill your /var/log/auth log fast as all hell
[04:17] <[Relic] > dwidmann, silly thing messed up the glx drivers which is why X wouldn't start  :)  all better now
[04:17] <underdog5004> uh...log rotation?
[04:17] <dwidmann> [Relic] : good to hear it :)
[04:17] <bkudria> nixternal: yep, the executable bit is set
[04:17] <underdog5004> can't you just disable logging...or have cron delete the logs at an interval?
[04:17] <dwidmann> I finally got around to fixing my refresh rate ten minutes ago myself :)
[04:17] <[Relic] > now if I could only find a 24 app clock  :)
[04:18] <nixternal> oslo: yes, if you add them in hosts.deny they can't connect to you, but you can connect to them
[04:18] <nixternal> hosts.deny blocks hosts coming in to your machine
[04:19] <underdog5004> ah...is that in /etc?
[04:20] <nixternal> /etc/hosts.deny
[04:20] <nixternal> err underdog5004, sorry, it is a bunch of different things actually
[04:20] <nixternal> google "linux log rotation" or possibly check the forums
[04:20] <nixternal> I think helpforge might have something on it as well
[04:21] <bkudria> i am trying to run a precompiled, old version of gcc (for a project, not under my control).  I've extracted the archive given to mee, and it contains 'gcc', a binary file with the executable bit set.  in the directory with the executable, i try to run it with './gcc', but i get the error './gcc: no such file or directory' - what could be wrong?  the executable bit/permission *is* set.
[04:21] <oslo> nixternal> how could deny the connection between me & them ?
[04:21] <underdog5004> gotcha...
[04:21] <oslo> *how could i
[04:21] <underdog5004> !nobody
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nobody - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:22] <nixternal> oslo: hrmm, I really don't know w/o setting up a proxy and some sort of blocking app
[04:22] <oslo> its sux
[04:22] <oslo> :p
[04:27] <spawn57> all the files I'm creating in my ~ dir are umask 644, can I change it to 600?
[04:28] <dwidmann> bkudria: I've seen that problem before, but I can't remember what/if the fix was.
[04:28] <dwidmann> spawn57: you can
[04:29] <spawn57> found it, it's either login.defs, or bash_profile..which one should I do though =S
[04:29] <heri-wahyudianto> uilil
[04:29] <bkudria> dwidmann: well, if you remember, please let me know!
[04:33] <vegasmcpc> anybody in here familiar with raid?
[04:34] <dwidmann> bkudria: the thread I was thinking of didn't have a solution :(
[04:34] <ForgeAus> in kubuntu... not I...
[04:34] <bkudria> dwidmann: oh.  thanks anyway!
[04:34] <ForgeAus> !raid
[04:34] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:34] <dwidmann> I've played with RAID (both mdadm and dmraid) a few times before, didn't keep either in the end though.
[04:35] <ForgeAus> raids strength is also its greatest weakness...
[04:35] <ForgeAus> redundancy
[04:39] <vioscar> holas
[04:39] <vioscar> alguien aki habla espaol?
[04:40] <intelikey> !es
[04:40] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:41] <vegasmcpc> ok, i have the raid array set up, all i need to do is figure out how to mount it
[04:42] <dx11101> whats all this anti-linux freebsd crap im reading
[04:43] <stephans> has anyone on this channel used kickstart successfully in ubuntu??
[04:43] <Adydas> Any X11 experts here?
[04:43] <fakepatriot> can anyone tell me when flash and java are coming out for 64-bit firefox?
[04:44] <HymnToLife> Adydas, just ask, someone will answer if he/she knows
[04:44] <underdog5004> Adydas, I know I'm not!
[04:44] <dwidmann> fakepatriot: look into nspluginwrapper
[04:44] <Adydas> Is anything wrong with this conf, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6659/
[04:44] <dwidmann> I think you can find it in the janvitus repository ...
[04:44] <fakepatriot> !nspluginwrapper
[04:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nspluginwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <fakepatriot> thanks dwid
[04:46] <dwidmann> I've even got nspluginwrapper working with Konqueror ... though I had to rebuild it with a patch to get that working
[04:47] <tun2> devilsadvocate are you there?
[04:47] <fakepatriot> sweet
[04:49] <intelikey> Adydas do you not need any monitor[0]  setup ?
[04:50] <Adydas> Im trying to run my TV out to my well tv
[04:51] <Adydas> it loads like i get X
[04:51] <Adydas> and no errors i can see from the logs
[04:51] <Adydas> but i just dont have a tv output
[04:51] <intelikey> Adydas scratch what i asked.  i see what you did there.
[04:52] <Adydas> have i missed somthing?
[04:52] <Adydas> it seems right according to following the !tvout help link
[04:52] <intelikey> Modes "400x600_60"  tall skinny ?
[04:53] <Adydas> it dont work at all
[04:54] <intelikey> Adydas i see three listed        InputDevice s    that are not defined.
[04:54] <slyfox> What do I need in order to open tar.zip file ? It opens fine in windows, but kubuntu gives me cannot open archive error  ?
[04:54] <Adydas> could i ask where?
[04:55] <intelikey> Section "ServerLayout"
[04:55] <ForgeAus> slyfox? ark should open it
[04:55] <Adydas>         Screen 0 "Screen[0] "
[04:55] <Adydas>         Screen 1 "Screen[1] " RightOf "Screen[0] "
[04:55] <ForgeAus> if not try an ncurses app midnight commander
[04:55] <HymnToLife> tar.zip ? Are you sure of that ?
[04:55] <fakepatriot> !wine
[04:55] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:55] <intelikey> three left over wacom devices.
[04:55] <intelikey>         InputDevice     "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
[04:55] <intelikey>         InputDevice     "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
[04:55] <intelikey>         InputDevice     "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
[04:55] <Adydas> I didnt add that, thats as per the installation
[04:55] <ForgeAus> good point Hymn, I didn't realize the extension normally its .tar.gz or .tar.z or .tar.bz2
[04:56] <ForgeAus> tar.zip is well unusual to say the least...
[04:56] <slyfox> ForgeAus: nope, I get - unable to open archive ?
[04:56] <HymnToLife> I guess he could just unzip it and see what that gives :p
[04:56] <ForgeAus> in winzip or oyur windows program is there only one file in the zip (a .tar file?)
[04:57] <slyfox> ForgeAus: let me see
[04:57] <intelikey> Adydas yes and not devined anymore.  i'm no X-pert there but that looks to me like begging for trubble.   also you didn't define any input devices.   mouse keyboard ....
[04:57] <Adydas> They work :p
[04:57] <ForgeAus> Hymn if it were unzippable why would it say it can't open the archive?
[04:57] <Adydas> all is 100%, bar i turn on tv and see nothing
[04:58] <HymnToLife> well, usually files ending with .zip are unzippable
[04:58] <HymnToLife> but I wonder where he got that file from
[04:58] <ForgeAus> agreed
[04:58] <stephans> has anyone on this channel used kickstart successfully in ubuntu??
[04:58] <HymnToLife> the source doesn't seem very reliable
[04:58] <ForgeAus> and what actual archive format it is
[04:58] <slyfox> ForgeAus: winrar in Windows sees it as  filename.tar    because it is a .zip file and it open it just fine
[04:58] <stephans> has anyone on this channel preeseeded an install for ubuntu??
[04:58] <ForgeAus> ok can you extract it with winrar to filename.tar somewhere?
[04:58] <cpk1> slyfox: do you have unzip installed?
[04:58] <slyfox> ForgeAus: in wINDOWS, LET ME SEE
[04:58] <ForgeAus> then use linux to open the .tar file
[04:58] <slyfox> cpk1: LET ME SEE
[04:59] <HymnToLife> slyfox, have you tried    unzip file.zip  from a terminal
[04:59] <slyfox> cpk1: yes
[04:59] <cpk1> linux should be able to deal with any type of archive
[04:59] <HymnToLife> cpk1, it is
[04:59] <cpk1> slyfox: what does file nameofarchive say?
[04:59] <ForgeAus> cpk1 SHOUDL but for some reason it doesn't like this particular one
[04:59] <max_> where is the setting for transparency of the K Menu?
[05:00] <slyfox> ForgeAus: slyfox.tar.zip   my firefox profile backup
[05:00] <intelikey> max_ right click and configure it
[05:00] <ForgeAus> good question max I don't actually know... possibly in configuring panels somewhere?
[05:00] <slyfox> ForgeAus: yes, it unzipped just fine in windows
[05:00] <HymnToLife> max_, Kcontrol > Appearance > Styles > "Effects" tab
[05:00] <ForgeAus> if it exists I'd expect it to be in appearance or theme settings somewhere
[05:00] <heri-wahyudianto> ijewrf[pijefjie iwpjfw
[05:00] <heri-wahyudianto> pl[pl\
[05:01] <slyfox> ForgeAus:
[05:01] <slyfox> slyfox@laptopishe:~$ unzip /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar
[05:01] <slyfox> Archive:  /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar.zip
[05:01] <HymnToLife> heri-wahyudianto, what was that ?
[05:01] <slyfox>   End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[05:01] <slyfox>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[05:01] <max_> HymnToLife: thanks, i can never rememeber where that is
[05:01] <slyfox>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[05:01] <slyfox>   the last disk(s) of this archive.
[05:01] <slyfox> note:  /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar.zip may be a plain executable, not an archive
[05:01] <slyfox> unzip:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar or
[05:01] <slyfox>         /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar.zip, and cannot find /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar.ZIP, period.
[05:01] <slyfox> slyfox@laptopishe:~$
[05:01] <ForgeAus> wow nice!
[05:01] <cpk1> slyfox: file /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar to see if it says what kind archive it is
[05:02] <heri-wahyudianto> how to add IRC server
[05:02] <heri-wahyudianto> how to add IRC server?
[05:02] <intelikey> slyfox gunzip it
[05:02] <HymnToLife> heri-wahyudianto, depends on what client you use...
[05:02] <slyfox> cpk1: /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar: directory
[05:02] <slyfox> intelikey: how via gunzip /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar    ?
[05:02] <cpk1> lol
[05:02] <heri-wahyudianto> I use Kubuntu konversation
[05:02] <HymnToLife> slyfox, can you cd to it ?
[05:03] <heri-wahyudianto> I use Kubuntu konversation
[05:03] <slyfox> HymnToLife: let me see
[05:03] <ForgeAus> me too
[05:03] <slyfox> HymnToLife: Yes I can
[05:03] <HymnToLife> and what do you have in there ?
[05:04] <slyfox> HymnToLife: what is the command to see what i have there ?
[05:04] <HymnToLife> ls
[05:04] <heri-wahyudianto> oo
[05:04] <slyfox> HymnToLife: gives me nothing
[05:04] <slyfox> HymnToLife:
[05:04] <ForgeAus> why does beryl switch my desktop to gnome-style?
[05:04] <slyfox> slyfox@laptopishe:~/Desktop/slyfox.tar$
[05:04] <slyfox> slyfox@laptopishe:~/Desktop/slyfox.tar$ ls
[05:04] <slyfox> slyfox@laptopishe:~/Desktop/slyfox.tar$ ls
[05:04] <slyfox> slyfox@laptopishe:~/Desktop/slyfox.tar$ ls
[05:04] <slyfox> slyfox@laptopishe:~/Desktop/slyfox.tar$ ls
[05:04] <slyfox> slyfox@laptopishe:~/Desktop/slyfox.tar$
[05:05] <slyfox> ForgeAus: did you install aquamarine for KDE ?
[05:05] <ForgeAus> yes
[05:05] <HymnToLife> ForgeAus, you need to tell beryl to use it then
[05:05] <slyfox> Did you set it to use aquamarine ?
[05:05] <ForgeAus> how do you do that?
[05:06] <HymnToLife> right click on the beryl icon in the systray
[05:06] <HymnToLife> it's somewhere in there
[05:06] <fakepatriot> can someone help me install Wine?
[05:06] <slyfox> ForgeAus: right click - window manager - aquamarine in beryl icon
[05:06] <ForgeAus> oh select window decoration?
[05:07] <slyfox> HymnToLife: so what do I do with my tar.zip file ?
[05:07] <HymnToLife> slyfox, I guess you'll have to extract it in windows
[05:07] <HymnToLife> or DCC it to me, I'll see what I can do with it
[05:07] <ForgeAus> slyfox I'm not sure its working
[05:08] <ForgeAus> I have a feeling its booting me back out of beryl when it loads
[05:08] <slyfox> ForgeAus: slect it and then choos reload window manager
[05:08] <slyfox> ForgeAus: #beryl is the best place to ask
[05:08] <ForgeAus> ok
[05:09] <intelikey> i can't fingre out why i can't install a printer...   i click add printer and the window gets this blank look on it's face and nothing else ever happens.
[05:09] <slyfox> HymnToLife: it is a big file 80 mg, let me see what else I can do here
[05:09] <cpk1> I have no experience with printers because mine automagically worked after the kde printer wizard
[05:11] <m4gnu5> Hello!  I'm a Linux n00b, and I'm having an issue with a device, specifically hda5, a logical drive I set up with ext3 filesystem.
[05:11] <lorderunion> hi. at random intervals kubuntu goes to a black screen and then prompts me to log back in. everything i was working on or had open is gone, and it reverts to the last session. i can't figure out what's going on. any idea as to what it might be?
[05:11] <intelikey> cpk1 i can't get to the kde printer wizard,  that's the thing.
[05:11] <cpk1> intelikey: =(
[05:11] <m4gnu5> I have no write permission to the drive, even after adding rwx for everyone, and adding root as group for my user account.
[05:12] <eean> m4gnu5: does root have write permission?
[05:12] <intelikey> m4gnu5 it's probably not a real file system.
[05:12] <Dr_willis> m4gnu5,  you normally dont set up a ext3/2 drive where Everyone can write to it.
[05:12] <m4gnu5> Yes, root has write permission.  brwx.
[05:12] <intelikey> thus has no permissions bit
[05:12] <Dr_willis> you could set up a directory on the drive.. that everyone has access to.
[05:13] <m4gnu5> I realize, but I'm new, and I decided to set it that way just to see if I could get it working...
[05:13] <eean> hehe good point Dr_willis
[05:13] <Dr_willis> make a dir.. and set the permissions on that. :)
[05:13] <m4gnu5> I can't create anything within the partition.
[05:13] <Dr_willis> i normally set up a spare hd called 'extraspace' and make each user a addational homedir in there.
[05:13] <m4gnu5> even as root.
[05:13] <eean> ...
[05:13] <Dr_willis> m4gnu5,  you got bigger issues then if root cant do things.
[05:13] <m4gnu5> It's 61GB in size.
[05:13] <eean> yea this ain't no permission issue :)
[05:14] <Dr_willis> for a start check the 'mount' command see where/what the drive is mounted as.
[05:14] <m4gnu5> It was an ntfs partition, so I used fdisk to delete it, and created an ext3 partition.
[05:14] <eean> grep hda /etc/fstab
[05:14] <eean> grep hda5 /etc/fstab
[05:14] <intelikey> m4gnu5 in konsole type; mount    and copy/paste the output to http://pastebin.ca  then bring us the url
[05:14] <m4gnu5> The dribe is, of course at location /dev/hda5, and is mounted at /media/hda5.
[05:15] <m4gnu5> okay, hang on.
[05:15] <Dr_willis> example --->  /dev/hde1 on /media/hde1 type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[05:15] <Dr_willis> note the (rw) part
[05:16] <Dr_willis> if you just got a (r) then it may be read only
[05:16] <intelikey> nosuid    catchy
[05:16] <m4gnu5> http://pastebin.ca/364439
[05:17] <intelikey>    12. /dev/hdc5 on /media/hdc5 type ntfs
[05:17] <intelikey> there's your problem.
[05:17] <Dr_willis> yep.. i was about to say that
[05:17] <m4gnu5> I've also checked fstab.  It looks odd, but I'm so new, I'm not sure.
[05:17] <lorderunion> hi. at random intervals kubuntu goes to a black screen and then prompts me to log back in. everything i was working on or had open is gone, and it reverts to the last session. i can't figure out what's going on. any idea as to what it might be?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> its not a ext2/3 drive :) its a windows ntfs drive
[05:17] <m4gnu5> hdc is my second physical drive . . . I'm talking about hda5
[05:18] <intelikey>    14. /dev/hda5 on /media/hda5 type ext3 (rw)
[05:18] <intelikey> too quick ?
[05:18] <m4gnu5> Too quick?
[05:18] <Dr_willis> i though he said hdc earlier..
[05:18] <intelikey> sudo chmod 777 /media/hda5
[05:18] <m4gnu5> hold on
[05:19] <m4gnu5> brwxrwxrwx 1 root disk 3, 5 2007-02-19 21:46 /dev/hda5
[05:19] <m4gnu5> That's the drive permisions as they stand.
[05:19] <intelikey> no it's not.
[05:19] <m4gnu5> ?
[05:19] <intelikey> that's the device node permissions
[05:19] <m4gnu5> Okay . . .
[05:20] <intelikey> sudo chmod 777 /media/hda5
[05:20] <m4gnu5> Should I use thew sudo chmod command as instructed?
[05:20] <m4gnu5> okay...
[05:20] <intelikey> as normal user do;                                               mkdir /media/hda5/this\ is\ a\ test
[05:20] <m4gnu5> Okay, done.
[05:21] <m4gnu5> Okay . . .  hold on
[05:22] <kristjan_> I got so far that I downloaded kiso.debdiff; now trying "debdiff apply ./kiso.debdiff" gets error "./kiso.debdiff does not exist."
[05:22] <m4gnu5> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/hda5/this is a test': Permission denied
[05:22] <kristjan_> *dpatch status ./kiso.debdiff*
[05:23] <intelikey> ls -ld /media/hda5
[05:23] <m4gnu5> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-02-19 20:05 /media/hda5
[05:23] <yuriy> kristjan_ you don't need the ./ unless you're running a script or something
[05:23] <m4gnu5> I see that there isn't w in two places there./
[05:24] <intelikey> you didn't chmod it.
[05:24] <m4gnu5> Yes, I did.  But I will again.  I was root already, so I skipped the sudo command.  Was that okay?
[05:24] <kristjan_> yuriy: even with correct path "dpatch status /home/kristjan/varia/kiso.debdiff" I get "/home/kristjan/varia/kiso.debdiff does not exist."
[05:24] <lorderunion> hi. at random intervals kubuntu goes to a black screen and then prompts me to log back in. everything i was working on or had open is gone, and it reverts to the last session. i can't figure out what's going on. any idea as to what it might be?
[05:24] <intelikey> yeah if you're root you're root.
[05:25] <m4gnu5> This time I did it from my user account, and entered the root passwd when prompted.
[05:26] <intelikey> root password ?
[05:26] <m4gnu5> create the file again?
[05:26] <intelikey> sudo doesn't ask for a root password
[05:26] <m4gnu5> It did me.
[05:26] <intelikey> it asks for your password
[05:26] <m4gnu5> I was no longer root.
[05:26] <kristjan_> can anyone apply debdiff given here? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kiso/+bug/75908 - if you succeed, then please let me now
[05:26] <HymnToLife> m4gnu5, nope, it asks for _your_ password
[05:26] <Kite_DH> can somebody help me get my "Lexmark 1200 Series" Printer to work?
[05:26] <intelikey> sudo doesn't ask for the root password.
[05:26] <m4gnu5> Right now I use the same password as root . . .
[05:27] <m4gnu5> Sorry.  Confusing.
[05:27] <eean> lol
[05:27] <intelikey> it's still your password.
[05:27] <m4gnu5> Yes.
[05:27] <eean> by default ubuntu doesn't have a root password
[05:27] <intelikey> yes test it.
[05:27] <spitwise> user passwd will give root privs w/ sido
[05:27] <intelikey> or ls it again
[05:27] <m4gnu5> No I set it up.
[05:27] <spitwise> sudo even
[05:28] <yuriy> Kite_DH: what happens when you go to the printer settings and try to set it up?
[05:28] <m4gnu5> Anyway, I wasn't su, and when I typed sudo etc . . . it asked for a passwd.
[05:28] <monsterb_> Kite_DH do u have cups installed?
[05:28] <lorderunion> hi. at random intervals kubuntu goes to a black screen and then prompts me to log back in. everything i was working on or had open is gone, and it reverts to the last session. i can't figure out what's going on. any idea as to what it might be?
[05:28] <Kite_DH> yuriy: when i try to print, nothing comes out, then i check printjobs and theres nothing
[05:28] <Kite_DH> yuriy: somebody here said to make it on "rawr file"
[05:29] <intelikey> i setup my /etc/sudoers      ALL     ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD :ALL
[05:29] <yuriy> Kite_DH: have you set up the printer in system settings?
[05:29] <eean> lorderunion: if that happened to me I'd be worried about hardward trouble >.<
[05:29] <m4gnu5> Now, do I:  mkdir /media/hda5/this\ is\ a\ test
[05:29] <lorderunion> any way to test if it is hardware?
[05:29] <Kite_DH> yuriy: not really, i just set it on raw file
[05:29] <intelikey> m4gnu5 or ls -ld /media/hda5
[05:29] <monsterb_> kite_DH goto cups website and use online setup program in your web browser ---> http://localhost:631/   u need root/password
[05:29] <intelikey> either one should tell you if it took
[05:29] <yuriy> lorderunion: you could run memtest to see if it's memory errors. it should be in your grub menu on boot.
[05:30] <eean> lorderunion: well reboot and run memtest the next time you go to bed, couldn't hurt. though if it was hardware trouble it probably be your video card
[05:30] <Kite_DH> monsterb_: explain that please
[05:30] <m4gnu5> drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2007-02-19 20:05 /media/hda5
[05:30] <m4gnu5> OKAY!  Looks like write permission.
[05:30] <intelikey> ok you can do what you want there now m4gnu5
[05:30] <lorderunion> my video card worked a few weeks ago on my old system w/o troubles
[05:30] <yuriy> monsterb_: does he really need to do that? kdeprint doesn't work for lexmark or sthing?
[05:30] <Kite_DH> yuriy: there are many lexmark models in kdeprint, but mine
[05:30] <gugu^> can someone help me to configure Local network
[05:30] <yuriy> Kite_DH: have you tried a similar one maybe?
[05:30] <m4gnu5> Thank you, Intelikey.  And will this be persistent?  ie:  won't have to do this after every boot?
[05:31] <yuriy> Kite_DH: what is yours?
[05:31] <intelikey> anytime
[05:31] <m4gnu5> Or do I need to edit fstab?
[05:31] <Kite_DH> yuriy: Lexmark 1200 Series
[05:31] <intelikey> m4gnu5 and yes it's real permissions you set.
[05:31] <m4gnu5> They're perminent until I change them?  Sweet!
[05:32] <intelikey> yep
[05:32] <osiris> anyone here able to play .wav files or mp3 files for system sounds ?  Does it just support .ogg's ?
[05:32] <monsterb_>  yuriy - IMO i think cups website setup is easier - Lexmark are tricky printers to get working - is the 1200 listed?
[05:32] <Kite_DH> yuriy: its with a scanner on it too
[05:32] <m4gnu5> Thank you again.  Like I said, I'm a n00b.  Ben with MSDOS since v2.1, then all the flavors of Windows up to XP Pro.  I just
[05:32] <m4gnu5> made the switch.
[05:33] <m4gnu5> So far I like Kubuntu 6.10 the best . . .
[05:33] <m4gnu5> Though I like Knoppix, but they say they don't recommend installing it perm.
[05:33] <intelikey> m4gnu5 but be advised.  anyone withaccess to that box can do anything they want on that disk.   they don't have to own nor even have permissions on files/dirs to rm them.
[05:34] <yuriy> Kite_DH, monsterb_: i see the 1100 listed, that might be the same driver
[05:34] <eean> intelikey: dude thats true anyways, they just have to boot into another operating system or single user mode
[05:34] <Kite_DH> yuriy: what if not? :(
[05:34] <m4gnu5> I do realize that.  I will work on securing it better.
[05:34] <intelikey> eean i didn't say local access.
[05:34] <yuriy> monsterb_: of course if you have experience with lexmark/cups website setup please explain it to Kite_DH :)
[05:34] <intelikey> eean any access
[05:34] <eean> I normally don't hand out access to my desktop system ;)
[05:34] <yuriy> Kite_DH: i found this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714&highlight=X1150.
[05:35] <monsterb_> Kite_DH if it's wrong driver u will just waste ink on test page - thats all
[05:35] <intelikey> now who want's to walk me through setting up a printer ?
[05:36] <yuriy> !printer
[05:36] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:36] <intelikey> it don't work yuriy
[05:36] <Kite_DH> yuriy: im gonna try it
[05:37] <monsterb_> kite_DH network printer?
[05:37] <yuriy> intelikey: what don't? and sry about those links, that wasn't quite what i was hoping it would give
[05:37] <intelikey> yuriy add printer wizard
[05:38] <yuriy> oh
[05:38] <yuriy> how so?
[05:38] <Kite_DH> monsterb_: no idea
[05:38] <ForgeAus> why doesn't my kget work anymore?
[05:38] <yuriy> intelikey: what printer and what error do you get if any?
[05:38] <ForgeAus>  it opens a window lets me set where to put the file, etc has an entry for the file, just doesn't seem to connect or put any data in the file!
[05:38] <intelikey> when i click add printer the window just goes blank
[05:39] <intelikey> that's all.   nothing more.
[05:39] <yuriy> intelikey: no error message at all? eek.
[05:39] <yuriy> intelikey: what version of ubuntu?
[05:39] <intelikey> 6.6
[05:39] <Dr_willis> egads! its so old it has vericose veins.
[05:39] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:39] <Dr_willis> ok.. not really
[05:40] <gugu^> can someone help me to configure Local network
[05:40] <Kite_DH> yuriy: doesnt work...
[05:40] <m4gnu5> lmao
[05:40] <m4gnu5> vericose veins . . .
[05:40] <Dr_willis> gugu^,  care to clarify the question?
[05:40] <m4gnu5> I just got it.
[05:40] <yuriy> intelikey: try going to a konsole and typing kcmshell printers
[05:40] <intelikey> yuriy also if i go to  <IP_ADDRESS>:631   i get the cups page but nothing in the page will work.
[05:40] <fakepatriot> can someone tell me why Wine isn't showing up after i install it? i am running kubuntu edgy on AMD64.
[05:40] <yuriy> then go to add and see if you get any errors in konsole
[05:40] <m4gnu5> Me too fakepatriot.
[05:41] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,   because it really dosen run by itself.. install some app with it (wine whatever.exe) and it 'should' make an icon
[05:41] <gugu^> Dr_willis: How to setup Linux as a router for DSL
[05:41] <yuriy> intelikey: have you tried administrator mode in the control module or have you put in your password for the cups page?
[05:41] <Dr_willis> gugu^,  you got linux connected by dsl to the internet now?
[05:41] <gugu^> yes
[05:42] <Dr_willis> gugu^,  you got a 2nd network for the linux box?
[05:42] <gugu^> yes
[05:42] <Dr_willis> heh.. i 'think' what you want to check out is the ip-masquerading feature.. but its been ages sincve ive messed with it.
[05:42] <intelikey> yuriy ok.  got error out of that.   "cant find module printer"
[05:42] <fakepatriot> sorry..i am kinda new at this...what does that mean exactly?
[05:42] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  what does what mean?
[05:42] <gugu^> eth0 - for internet,  eth1 for local network
[05:43] <Dr_willis> wine - isent a app you just 'run' you run it to run a windows binary
[05:43] <monsterb_> yuriy i tried it and works great :)
[05:43] <fakepatriot> "wine_0.9.31~winehq0~ubuntu~6.10-1_i386.deb"
[05:43] <fakepatriot> oops
[05:43] <intelikey> yuriy oh wait.
[05:43] <Admiral_Chicago>
[05:43] <fakepatriot> wrong paste
[05:43] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  i dident think wine worked on the 64bit disrto either...
[05:43] <intelikey> yuriy my bad.   ok that just brings me right back to the kcontrol window for printers.
[05:44] <intelikey> yuriy and clicking add just blanks the window
[05:44] <fakepatriot> well i follwed some instructions from the website that apparently make it work...but since ive never use Wine before i don't know if they worked or how to run Wine...
[05:44] <gugu^> Dr_willis: I found in internet how to do this, but I`m not understanding 2 steps
[05:44] <Kite_DH> yuriy: this sucks :(...still cant print
[05:45] <Dr_willis> gugu^,  its such a common task there may be some trivialy easy way to enable it  :) but i got a linksys router i use instead.
[05:45] <Dr_willis> gugu^,  whats the part ya dont get?
[05:45] <m4gnu5> Hey Intelikey . . .
[05:45] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  download some windows binary.. and from the shell use 'wine whatever.exe'
[05:45] <intelikey> yuriy    did you run hide ?
[05:45] <intelikey> hey m4gnu5
[05:46] <gugu^> Dr_willis: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-as-router-for-dsl-t1-line-etc.html
[05:46] <gugu^> Dr_willis: Sptep5 and 6
[05:46] <yuriy> Kite_DH: have you tried what monsterb_ was saying? kite_DH goto cups website and use online setup program in your web browser ---> http://localhost:631/   u need root/password
[05:46] <monsterb_> Kite_DH did u try cups website? Pretty easy http://localhost:631/ - just login with your root/password - if your printer is plugged in and turned on, it will find it.
  Just wondering.  Why is hda5's color blue with green background when my other drives are blue with black background color?
[05:46] <yuriy> intelikey: all updates installed? what version of KDE?
[05:47] <Dr_willis> gugu^,  you want to set the other machines on the lan to use the linux box as their gateway machine
[05:47] <fakepatriot> oh ok i think i get it now..i'll try thanks for the help...
[05:47] <m4gnu5> Is it important?
[05:47] <intelikey> yuriy all updates that the standard repos present
[05:47] <gugu^> i`m usin kubuntu on all machines
[05:47] <intelikey> m4gnu5 permsiision probably
[05:47] <intelikey> permissions
[05:48] <Dr_willis> gugu^,  so confiure the network on the machines to use the first linux box as their gateway
[05:48] <cpk1> gugu^: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[05:48] <m4gnu5> I thought maybe, but wanted to ask.  Thank you for taking time to answer my questions, my friend.
[05:48] <intelikey> m4gnu5 where are you seeing this colour ?
[05:48] <Kite_DH> monsterb_: KDEPrint made it with CUPS too...didnt work out
[05:48] <gugu^> Dr_willis: and I, whant to internet on them (its for an internet cafe)
[05:48] <intelikey> m4gnu5 from the ls command ?
[05:48] <m4gnu5> In terminal/console...
[05:48] <intelikey> yeah that will be perm tripping that.
[05:49] <gugu^> Dr_willis: How
[05:49] <gugu^> :)
[05:49] <m4gnu5> Sorry, konsole.
[05:49] <yuriy> intelikey: shot in the dark, but upgrading to kde 3.5.5 from kubuntu.org _might_ help
[05:49] <m4gnu5> Okay.  Groovy.
[05:49] <Dr_willis> gugu^,  yes...  that makes sence...  you use the network confifguration tools to SET THE other machiens 'gateway' to the ip of the 'routerbox'
[05:49] <gugu^> cpk1: i have tried, and it`s not working
[05:49] <cpk1> gugu^: from the machine that is connected to the internet run this iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[05:49] <Dr_willis> !masquerade
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about masquerade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <cpk1> gugu^: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward needs to say 1 not 0
[05:49] <Dr_willis> i wonder if thers a ubuntu specific guide for this.
[05:50] <intelikey> yuriy i really don't want to corrupt this installation    it's 100% apt getable  no forign repos.
[05:51] <cpk1> Dr_willis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EasyWirelessToWiredConnectionSharing that? it is basically the same if you have 2 wired connections
[05:51] <intelikey> that way when packages break i can bitch all i want about it.   cause i know it's not something i added.
[05:52] <cpk1> gugu^: still with me?
[05:52] <gugu^> cpk1: yes
[05:52] <monsterb_> Kite_DH your printer a Lexmark Optra Color 1200?
[05:52] <cpk1> gugu^: did you check  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[05:53] <gugu^> no
[05:54] <cpk1> gugu^: edit /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward and change the 0 to 1
[05:54] <gugu^> cpk1:  I must write something at the begining /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[05:54] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, ok i tried but nothing happens...also if i try to run a '.exe' file by clicking on it i get an error message that says "KDEInit could not launch 'wine'"
[05:54] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  dont click.. use the shell
[05:54] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  you did install wine allready?
[05:54] <cpk1> gugu^: kdesu kate /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[05:54] <fakepatriot> lqtm, yes
[05:54] <gugu^> cpk1: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[05:55] <gugu^> cpk1:  no write permission for file "/prc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[05:55] <Dr_willis> you normally echo to that file.. the 'ip-masquerading howto' has lots of good info on this.
[05:56] <gugu^> cpk1: kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[05:56] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, i did 'kdesu wine Steaminstall.exe'
[05:56] <cpk1> gugu^: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[05:57] <gugu^> cpk1: its working
[05:57] <cpk1> gugu^: the network is?
[05:57] <gugu^> cpk1: no
[05:58] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  why not try somthing SIMPLE.. and you dont need to 'kdesu' it...
[05:58] <gugu^> cpk1: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[05:58] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  go download some simple windows game.. or find sol.exe
[05:58] <cpk1> gugu^: if you have also done the MASQUERADE command then the boxes should be able to go outside now
[05:59] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, ok i am gonna try to run a quake III demo i have installed on my flash drive...
[05:59] <x04ty29er_> am i disconnected?
[05:59] <x04ty29er_> apparently not
[05:59] <intelikey> well i found one of my problems   lo   was down   was keeping me from using a browser to access cups   but i still have the same error there.  clicking any link/button in the cups page does nothing.
[05:59] <gugu^> cpk1: what do you mean
[05:59] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  quake has native linux ports.. :)
[05:59] <cpk1> gugu^: the other computers connected to that one should be able to access the internet now
[05:59] <intelikey> x04ty29er_ yes you are disconnected now.   we can't see you.
[06:00] <x04ty29er_> lol
[06:00] <ala> anyone know how to add a directory to the system wide path?
[06:00] <x04ty29er_> im not an idiot
[06:00] <intelikey> :)
[06:00] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, oh...heh
[06:00] <intelikey> ?
[06:00] <x04ty29er_> lol
[06:00] <x04ty29er_> i saw other people say stuff
[06:00] <Dr_willis> ala,  thers some /etc/bashrc or similer files you can define the default PATH
[06:00] <x04ty29er_> and realized
[06:00] <x04ty29er_> that i was still connected
[06:00] <HymnToLife> ala, yep, edit the relevant line in /etc/bashrc
[06:01] <Dr_willis> ala,  better to just edit the users .bashrc or .bash_profile
[06:01] <gugu^> cpk1: it`s not working
[06:01] <intelikey> x04ty29er_ if you want a test that doesn't tell us that you are wondering try pinging your nick
[06:01] <cpk1> gugu^: see if one of the other computers can connect to this ip <IP_ADDRESS> (that's google)
[06:01] <x04ty29er> hm
[06:01] <x04ty29er> i guess so
[06:02] <x04ty29er> but
[06:02] <x04ty29er> this is faster
[06:02] <intelikey> that only you and the guy that pings you sees what's going on.
[06:02] <x04ty29er> hm
[06:02] <x04ty29er> i might next time
[06:02] <intelikey> /ping x04ty29er_
[06:02] <intelikey> am i disconnected?
[06:03] <intelikey> looks like less typing to ping yourself
[06:03] <x04ty29er> hm
[06:03] <x04ty29er> more thinking
[06:03] <gugu^> cpk1: i`m sorry, but no
[06:03] <soulrider> !beryl
[06:03] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:03] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, well that didnt work...am i supposed to trying to install stuff or run '.exe' files?
[06:04] <cpk1> gugu^: and these can all ping the main computer that is doing the networking?
[06:06] <nomad111> hey all i have a dell inspiron 6400/e1505 which has a ricoh sd/mmc card reader, the problem is that when i put the card in its not getting detected
[06:06] <nomad111> i cant see the card reader in /media
[06:06] <Kite_DH> monsterb_: no, its a Lexmark 1200 Series
[06:07] <nomad111> does any1 kno a solution
[06:07] <Kite_DH> monsterb_: it has a scanner at the top
[06:07] <fakepatriot> nomad111, is the card reader plugged in?
[06:07] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  you install wine..  if its installed then 'wine' from the shell will run wine.. you normally use wine to run a windows binary for example to run sol.exe you would use 'wine sol.exe'
[06:07] <nomad111> fakepatriot: its inbuilt into the laptop
[06:08] <gugu^> cpk1: "The network is unreachable"
[06:08] <fakepatriot> nomad111, oh then i have no clue...try !card reader
[06:08] <fakepatriot> !card reader
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about card reader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <fakepatriot> curse you ubotu!
[06:08] <cpk1> gugu^: ok so lets say box1 is the computer connected to the modem and box2 and box3 are the computers connected to box1
[06:09] <Dr_willis> The media-card-reader in my laptop is not supported by linux at this time. :( sadly
[06:09] <cpk1> gugu^: box2 cant ping box1?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> but a $5 usb media reader works fine.
[06:09] <gugu^> cpk1: no they can`t
[06:10] <cpk1> gugu^: ok on box1 is eth1 configured?
[06:10] <ala> this is the relevant part in my .bash_profile
[06:11] <ala> # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
[06:11] <ala> if [ -d ~/bin ]  ; then
[06:11] <ala>     PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"
[06:11] <ala>     PATH=/usr/local/binpy:"${PATH}"
[06:11] <ala> fi
[06:11] <ala> i added the part about binpy...
[06:11] <underdog5004> !paste
[06:11] <ala> is it correct?
[06:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:11] <gugu^> cpk1:  it`s configured with windows server, but now is kubuntu server
[06:11] <cpk1> gugu^: huh?
[06:11] <gugu^> cpk1:  :)
[06:11] <intelikey> ok i'm getting an error now.   at least that's something to work with.      when i click the    print server > configure server       i get "Unable to configure print server. Error message received from manager:  \n   Unable to retrieve configuration file from the CUPS server.
[06:11] <cpk1> gugu^: box1 is running linux correct?
[06:12] <intelikey> so avoiding the obvious.   what would that mean ?
[06:12] <gugu^> cpk1:  yes
[06:12] <jbruckman> so, i'm getting an error with my modules. It says there is an orphane dmodule or something? I'm trying to change some system settings, and I can't. Can someone help me figure out what's wrong, and fix it?
[06:13] <cpk1> gugu^: alright so is eth1 configured? what does ifconfig say its ip is?
[06:13] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, ok well i tried 'wine' by itself and it gave me the same error message as when i clicked on '.exe' files...i suppose i will just try to reinstall...or should i just give up?
[06:15] <Forge> hmm how do I set my samba computername and workgroup in kubuntu
[06:15] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,   what error?
[06:16] <Forge> brb
[06:16] <gugu^> cpk1: there is no ip in ifconfig
[06:16] <Dr_willis> Forge,  edit the /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:17] <ForgeAus> back
[06:17] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, "KDEInit could not launch 'wine'"
[06:17] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  not from 'clicking' what happens if you type 'wine' in a terminal?
[06:18] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  you did install wine dident you?
[06:18] <nomad111> does any1 kno a good c ide
[06:18] <nomad111> ansi c
[06:18] <Dr_willis> emacs :)
[06:19] <nomad111> does it have auto complete
[06:19] <nomad111> and syntax highlighting
[06:19] <Dr_willis> emacs has everything.. :)
[06:19] <nomad111> even a compiler?
[06:19] <Dr_willis> its hardcore
[06:19] <nomad111> thats news to me
[06:19] <Dr_willis> all its lacking is a decent text editor. :)
[06:20] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, that is the error it gave me when i typed just 'wine' by itself...yes i did install it as far as i know...like three times over too
[06:20] <cpk1> gugu^: alright do sudo ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:21] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  how did you install wine?   its not that hard to use...  and i dont see why running wine from a shell would give 'KDEInit could not launch 'wine''
[06:21] <gugu^> cpk1:  at the server or to other comp
[06:22] <cpk1> gugu^: box1
[06:23] <gugu^> cpk1: ok
[06:23] <cpk1> gugu^: alright now would you like to use a dhcp server?
[06:23] <gugu^> cpk1: yes,
[06:23] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, i followed these instructions http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb and http://wiki.winehq.org/UbuntuAMD64 ...again, i am running kubuntu edgy AMD64...also i apologize if i am frustrating you...
[06:24] <nomad111> Dr_willis: the interface for emacs is ancient
[06:24] <cpk1> gugu^: alright so install dhcp using whatever apt tool you like
[06:24] <Chicory> Argh.
[06:25] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  no idea on the amd64 stuff.. its possible that wine for amd64 is still flakey. I dont bother with the 64bit disrtos.
[06:25] <gugu^> cpk1: sudo apt-get install dhcpd       this is ok?
[06:25] <cpk1> gugu^: yes, but iirc it will tell you to install dhcp
[06:25] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  its highly possible wine is not installed correctly.
[06:26] <apallo> how do i upgrade my kubuntu install to the latest version without reinstalling?
[06:26] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, well how can i make sure that it is installed correctly?
[06:26] <apallo> i realize that this is prolly a noob question, but i don't know where to start
[06:26] <Adydas> sude apt-get upgrade
[06:26] <gugu^> cpk1: ok,
[06:27] <cpk1> gugu^: its installed?
[06:27] <apallo> that just upgrades the packages for this version i thought?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  no idea.. i dont mess with the 64bit disrtos.. i advise against using them.. theres not a lot to gain.. and a lot of issues to fight with.
[06:27] <cpk1> apallo: are you on dapper or edgy?
[06:27] <fakepatriot> apallo, sudo apt-get dist upgrade
[06:27] <gugu^> cpk1:  yes, but its faild to start
[06:27] <apallo> dapper
[06:27] <cpk1> gugu^: thats expected since its not configured =)
[06:27] <cpk1> !upgrade | apallo
[06:27] <ubotu> apallo: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[06:28] <apallo> thanks
[06:28] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, unfortunately for me this is my only box until i can afford to build my own...
[06:28] <gugu^> cpk1: :)
[06:28] <cpk1> gugu^: kdesu kate /etc/dhcpd.conf
[06:28] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  you dont need to run the 64bit disrtos on a 64bit machine.. they can run the 32bit disrto just fine.
[06:30] <gugu^> cpk1: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server, Xlib: No protocol specified, kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[06:30] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, are you serious!? christ! all this time!? i should've guessed...stuff like this always happens to me....damnit..well at least i know now
[06:30] <cpk1> gugu^: if you simply comment out everything and add this into it that should work, or you can find the lines that you should change and change those values http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6671/
[06:30] <cpk1> gugu^: you know how to use nano?
[06:31] <gugu^> cpk1:  nope :(
[06:31] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  ugh.. yes.. :) i never use the 64bit disrtos... i was THINKING you may of not realized that..
[06:31] <cpk1> gugu^: you get to learn, its really easy =D
[06:31] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  think about it.. they run the 32bit version of windows and even dos just fine.
[06:31] <apallo> it's telling me that 0 packages were upgraded
[06:31] <cpk1> gugu^: sudo nano /etc/dhcpd.conf
[06:32] <gugu^> cpk1: i know
[06:32] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, so is there any advantages to running 64-bit?
[06:32] <gugu^> cpk1: I must learn
[06:32] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  in some special cases - yes.. but for most people.. no.
[06:32] <apallo> !ubotu finding kubuntu version
[06:32] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  i imagine in a year or so the 64bit stuff will get much better
[06:32] <Dr_willis> its allredy gotten a lot better then it used to be
[06:33] <Admiral_Chicago> very true
[06:33] <cpk1> gugu^: so either comment out everything and add what is in my pastebin at the bottom or edit that file accordingly
[06:33] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, hopefully....well i suppose i am off to get a 32-bit kubuntu....thanks for the help Doc
[06:34] <Adydas> Anything wrong with this, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6659/ why wont it work for the TV
[06:35] <slyfox> Problem - laptop - brigthness control - evey time I set a brigthness to be lower than maximum, when I relogin, it holds the brigthness as I set it for first 2 seconds and then switches back to maximum ? How do I fix this ?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> "Within only a few days of Dell opening a new customer feedback website, they discovered that the feature most requested (by an almost 2-to-1 margin!) is an option on all new Dell PCs: pre-installed Linux.
[06:38] <gugu^> cpk1: And how I save this
[06:38] <cpk1> gugu^: ^O means ctrl shift o
[06:38] <makuseru> hi, when i do an "apt-get update" i get these errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6672/ how can i resolve this
[06:38] <cpk1> gugu^: ^ means ctrl and thats a capital o =)
[06:39] <Adydas> makuseru: it looks like a key error
[06:39] <Adydas> you have to install a key, hopefully somone else can help more..
[06:40] <Dr_willis> thats weird that the keys for those sites are not there allready
[06:40] <makuseru> all i did was uncomment universe and multi universe
[06:40] <makuseru> you dont need keys for that do you
[06:41] <Dr_willis> you may want to paste your whole sources.list ,  for us to check out
[06:41] <Dr_willis> perhaps some funky weird typo. ive never seen messages like those befor
[06:41] <slyfox> Problem - laptop - brigthness control - evey time I set a brigthness to be lower than maximum, when I relogin, it holds the brigthness as I set it for first 2 seconds and then switches back to maximum ? How do I fix this ?
[06:42] <makuseru> alright, just a sec Dr_Willis
[06:43] <gugu^> cpk1: :), thx
[06:43] <gugu^> cpk1: but is not working :)
[06:44] <ForgeAus> hmmm I can browse and find folders and files on samba using smb:// easily enough but how do I access Kubuntu shared files from the other end?
[06:44] <ForgeAus> where do you set the computername and workgroup?
[06:44] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  in the samba config file is where i set them
[06:45] <Dr_willis> but im hardkore and like editing the files directly :)
[06:45] <ForgeAus> theres an /etc/samba.conf?
[06:45] <Dr_willis> theres a lot of samba config files..
[06:45] <Dr_willis> i pasted its location earlier i thouight
[06:45] <cpk1> gugu^: sudo nano /etc/default/dhcp and only have this INTERFACES="eth1" (you can leave all the stuff that is commented out there)
[06:45] <Dr_willis>  - /etc/samba/*
[06:45] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  the 'using samba' book is installable also as a package - so you can have it locally.
[06:45] <makuseru> Dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/885034
[06:47] <Dr_willis> makuseru,   #AUTOMATIX REPOS START
[06:47] <Dr_willis> i would say # comment out EVERYTHING that automatix added
[06:47] <makuseru> then how else can i get win32codecs? and other multamedia codecs
[06:47] <mefisto__> what's the website that generates a sources.list?
[06:47] <Dr_willis> but lets check out the original error. :)
[06:48] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  you do NOT NOT NOT need to use automatix for that stuff
[06:48] <makuseru> you dont?
[06:48] <Dr_willis> I have them and never use automatix
[06:48] <makuseru> how can you get them then?
[06:48] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  you do  NOT NOT NOT x<PHONE_NUMBER>00
[06:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:48] <makuseru> i just removed automatix
[06:48] <Dr_willis> they are in the severas repositoris is one way
[06:48] <Dr_willis> or ya can download the .deb from the mplayer homepage is another .
[06:49] <Dr_willis> !w32codecs
[06:49] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[06:49] <Jucato> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[06:49] <Kite_DH> !customize
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about customize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <Kite_DH> !themes
[06:49] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:50] <Jucato> !changethemes | Kite_DH
[06:50] <ubotu> Kite_DH: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[06:50] <makuseru> so just add "deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ edgy-seveas list_of_sections " to my sources?
[06:51] <Jucato> makuseru: follow the instructions on that page
[06:51] <makuseru> i dont see them
[06:51] <Jucato> you should substitute "list_of_sections" for an actual section, listed at the end of the page
[06:51] <makuseru> oh ok
[06:51] <gugu^> cpk1: there is nothing
[06:52] <cpk1> gugu^: hmm?
[06:52] <Dr_willis> heh heh - it pays to read the site thourghly
[06:53] <Adydas> Is there a Kde gui based way to setup tv out?
[06:53] <mefisto__> I've got kde 3.5.6 installed. To generate a sources.list from source-o-matic webpage, should I select the "Kubuntu.org bleeding edge KDE" option to receive the right updates?
[06:54] <ForgeAus> back
[06:54] <Jucato> front
[06:54] <ForgeAus> ok where was I ... if the workgroup is set to a matching string...
[06:54] <justin_> Hey guys, I have a quick question.. I'm a newb and I think I messed something big up recently.. When I try to run Kate from the command line I get the error:
[06:54] <ForgeAus> then the computer should show up (whatever name it is) in the same workgroup right?
[06:54] <justin_> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[06:54] <justin_>   Major opcode:  144
[06:55] <justin_>   Minor opcode:  3
[06:55] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  you need to restart the samba services
[06:55] <justin_>   Resource id:  0x0
[06:55] <Admiral_Chicago> justin_: that's why you run kate with "run command" in the K menu
[06:55] <justin_> Failed to open device
[06:55] <justin_> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[06:55] <makuseru> Dr_willis: i removed all automatix things, and same problem, plus a key error for that new repo even though i added the key, but it siad it wouldnt export the key
[06:55] <ForgeAus> Dr Willis how do you do that?
[06:55] <Dr_willis> justin_,  thats such a faq. :) its from the wacom tablet being in the xorg.conf
[06:55] <justin_>   Major opcode:  144
[06:55] <justin_>   Minor opcode:  3
[06:55] <justin_>   Resource id:  0x0
[06:55] <justin_> Failed to open device
[06:55] <justin_> Oops sorry about that
[06:55] <justin_> thought it might go on one line.. =)
[06:55] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  same as any other service.. :)     - sudo /etc/init.d/whatever restart
[06:55] <ForgeAus> I'm not even certain I've started them to begin with!
[06:55] <justin_> All apologies for the faq then!
[06:55] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:55] <justin_> Thanks for the help
[06:55] <Jucato> !pastebin | justin_
[06:55] <ubotu> justin_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:55] <Dr_willis> justin_,  lets find the url
[06:55] <Dr_willis> !wacom
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <Dr_willis> !tablet
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <Dr_willis> hmm..
[06:56] <Jucato> er.. Dr_willis?
[06:56] <ForgeAus> um I don't see any samba in /etc/init.d/
[06:56] <justin_> Did I miss something?
[06:57] <Dr_willis> whats thats factoud for that wacom/tablet thing...
[06:57] <mefisto__> justin_: if you want to get rid of that message, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1264009
[06:57] <intelikey> if you did i did too
[06:57] <Jucato> justin_: those errors are for the wacom entries in xorg.conf. but since you don't have a wacom or are not using a Tablet PC, they show up. but these errors are safe to ignore
[06:57] <Adydas> !tvout
[06:57] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[06:57] <makuseru> Dr_willis: i removed all automatix things, and same problem, plus a key error for that new repo even though i added the key, but it siad it wouldnt export the key
[06:57] <Dr_willis> just real annoying errors. :)
[06:57] <mefisto__> I've got kde 3.5.6 installed. To generate a sources.list from source-o-matic webpage, should I select the "Kubuntu.org bleeding edge KDE" option to receive the right updates?
[06:57] <Jucato> which can be avoided by launching GUI apps from Alt+F2 :)
[06:57] <justin_> Oh great ok thanks, I was trying to install beryl and kate scared me from the outset
[06:58] <justin_> but I'll just ignore it
[06:58] <cpk1> gugu^: so where are you at now?
[06:58] <ForgeAus> are you sure dr_willis theres no /etc/init.d/* files with smb or samba in them anywhere
[06:58] <Dr_willis> not on ubuntu at this minet.. let me check
[06:59] <kevman> Hey, where do I put a command that I want to run every time I boot?
[06:59] <kevman> What script?
[06:59] <intelikey> Dr_willis the wacom errors ?
[06:59] <Admiral_Chicago> kevman: ~/.kde/Autostart
[06:59] <kevman> I need before X loads.
[06:59] <Jucato> ForgeAus: I believe you have to install samba
[06:59] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  i got a /etc/init.d/samba script.. to start samba
[07:00] <ForgeAus> which package?
[07:00] <intelikey> Dr_willis was that what you were asking about ?
[07:00] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  i forget....
[07:00] <Jucato> ForgeAus: samba :)
[07:00] <ForgeAus> ahh IC samba itself
[07:00] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:00] <ForgeAus> I thought I already had it
[07:00] <Jucato> !info samba | ForgeAus
[07:00] <ubotu> forgeaus: samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 2956 kB, installed size 7392 kB
[07:00] <Jucato> hm.. ubotu? slacking off?
[07:00] <mefisto__> I've got kde 3.5.6 installed. To generate a sources.list from source-o-matic webpage, should I select the "Kubuntu.org bleeding edge KDE" option to receive the right updates?
[07:01] <ForgeAus> hmm I wish XP had some simple LDAP
[07:01] <gugu^> cpk1: I modified Ip adress on box and its working
[07:01] <Jucato> mefisto__: 3.5.6 is the latest. but yes, the kde-latest repository would probably give you the proper updates
[07:01] <intelikey> Dr_willis it's real simple to remove the three wacom device listings in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf     the three device listings and the mention of them in the server section
[07:01] <Admiral_Chicago> kevman: what exactly are you trying to do
[07:01] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  yes - i can do it.. :) but others need help. heh ...
[07:01] <cpk1> gugu^: great can box2 access google?
[07:02] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  of course i actually have a wacom tablet.. it sucks...
[07:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:02] <intelikey> lol
[07:02] <ForgeAus> I wonder when "longhorn"/vista server will come out...
[07:02] <makuseru> Dr_willis: i removed all automatix things, and same problem, plus a key error for that new repo even though i added the key, but it siad it wouldnt export the key
[07:02] <Admiral_Chicago> who cares, their servers are terrible
[07:02] <kevman> Admiral_Chicago, there is a little app that hacks this thing's video BIOS into support the resolution I want it X to start in.
[07:02] <mefisto__> Jucato: so what the source-o-matic page refers to as "bleeding edge" is kde 3.5.6? or is it more recent than that?
[07:03] <BrettV> I attempted to run adept but it would not load. So I restarted my machine. Now when I run adept it says that another process is using it so I cannot. I guess there is a crashed process running... can someone help me fix this?
[07:03] <Admiral_Chicago> kevman: wow, okay good luck with that, never heard of it
[07:03] <Admiral_Chicago> !adeptcrash | BrettV
[07:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  thats not really an error - i think you can still install stuff.. it will just warn you about them not being verified.
[07:03] <Jucato> mefisto__: the latest kde version is 3.5.6. source-o-matic will add a kubuntu.org/kde-latest repository if you check that "bleeding edge" option. kde-latest will hold future kde updates (if they come)
[07:03] <gugu^> cpk1: yes
[07:03] <Admiral_Chicago> dammit, who knows the factoid
[07:03] <kevman> Admiral_Chicago, the command works fine. I just need it run at boot.
[07:03] <intelikey> Dr_willis i find it easiest to help others by having them pastbin their xorg.conf then correcting it and saying there use that     saves time too.
[07:03] <Jucato> !adeptfix | BrettV
[07:03] <ubotu> BrettV: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:03] <BrettV> hehe
[07:04] <BrettV> thanks Jucato
[07:04] <cpk1> gugu^: alright we arent done yet though =)
[07:04] <mefisto__> thanks Jucato
[07:04] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: it's adeptfix or adeptcrashfix
[07:04] <Admiral_Chicago> there you go. thanks Jucato.
[07:04] <gugu^> cpk1: thank you very much :)
[07:04] <makuseru> Dr_willis: oh, well whats the package form seveas that has the codecs in it?
[07:04] <intelikey> makuseru warning != error
[07:04] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  w32codecs  i think
[07:04] <Dr_willis> !find w32codecs
[07:04] <Jucato> makuseru: if you just need w32codecs, you could just download the .deb file and install that
[07:05] <Jucato> makuseru: I gave the link earlier
[07:05] <ubotu> Package/file w32codecs does not exist in edgy
[07:05] <Jucato> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[07:05] <Jucato> makuseru: ^^^
[07:05] <cpk1> gugu^: sudo iptables-save > /etc/network/iptables.list (this saves your current MASQUERADE rule in /etc/network/iptables.list)
[07:06] <makuseru> thanks
[07:08] <gugu^> cpk1: ok, thx
[07:08] <cpk1> gugu^: still more work to do =)
[07:09] <BrettV> Is perl installed by default?
[07:09] <cpk1> gugu^: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[07:10] <Jucato> BrettV: I believe so
[07:10] <intelikey> Jucato in a cli browser i can't see the whole link on that page.   it's needs a tinyurl added.
[07:10] <Jucato> intelikey: which one?
[07:11] <cpk1> gugu^: edit the eth1 line to look like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6673/
[07:11] <intelikey>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[07:11] <intelikey> the rul to the actual .deb
[07:11] <Jucato> in the wiki itself? hm... hold on
[07:11] <intelikey> turncates at about  http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32code
[07:12] <justin_> Ah yeah I was removing them as we speak
[07:12] <Jucato> intelikey: it's not a url you click though.. because it's supposed to be used with wget. there's nothing to click in the wiki page itself
[07:13] <justin_> Is there a way to jump to an su, I was IN kate editing my xorg.conf file and it won't let me save because I don't have the power.. So I'll have to close it without saving and run sudo kate from the command line, THEN I can save it
[07:13] <intelikey> yes i know.  that's the point.  the cli user doesn't get the full address.
[07:13] <niblets> My kopete wont connect to the MSN server, and ideas of how to fix it?r
[07:13] <intelikey> @ Jucato ^
[07:14] <niblets> I get a mixture of "your password was wrong" (whereas it is ALWAYS correct" and "Could not connect to the MSN server"
[07:14] <Jucato> intelikey: how permanent is a tinyurl? how long does the tinyurl's link to the real url last?
[07:14] <intelikey> err console user     but it doesn't really matter cause i don't do proprietary and dr_willis already has it...   that's about the extent of console users in here
[07:15] <intelikey> Jucato i don't really know.
[07:15] <makuseru> hi, when i "apt-get update" i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6674/ how can i fix this?
[07:16] <intelikey> makuseru those are warnings.    telling you that you don't have the correct gpg key.
[07:16] <intelikey> or you don't have gpg installed ?
[07:16] <intelikey> !gpg
[07:16] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[07:19] <intelikey> nice net split...
[07:20] <intelikey> ye ha
[07:20] <niblets> What just happened to everyone? And can anyone tell me how to update kopete?
[07:20] <cpk1> thats a real netsplit intelikey =)
[07:21] <Jucato_> yay kool! netsplit?
[07:21] <Jucato_> hahah
[07:21] <Jucato_> niblets: what version do you have now?
[07:21] <mefisto__> are there normally any items in kmenu related to wine? should I expect to see anything after installing wine?
[07:21] <Jucato_> current Kopete version available in Kubuntu is 0.12.4 (using KDE 3.5.6)
[07:21] <soulrider> !basket
[07:21] <ubotu> basket: User-friendly way to run programs and manage links in KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-6 (edgy), package size 334 kB, installed size 1176 kB
[07:21] <intelikey> yeah  real as in several servers desynced
[07:22] <niblets> Jucato_ How can I find out my current version?
[07:22] <Jucato_> mefisto__: after installing wine? no. sometimes kmenu entries appear for apps you installed using wine
[07:22] <Jucato_> niblets: Kopete Help menu -> About Kopete
[07:23] <intelikey> or kopete --version
[07:23] <niblets> 0.12.3 (using KDE 3.5.5)
[07:23] <Jucato_> niblets: if you're on Edgy, you can upgrade your KDE to 3.5.6. if you're on Dapper, you're stuck with KDE 3.5.5 for now
[07:23] <niblets> I'm on edgy
[07:24] <Jucato_> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php <---
[07:25] <niblets> How easy is it to upgrade/update?
[07:25] <gugu^> cpk1: ok....
[07:26] <cpk1> gugu^: finished?
[07:26] <gugu^> cpk1: yes
[07:26] <Jucato_> niblets: so far, I have heard of no problems regarding upgrades from KDE 3.5.5 to 3.5.6
[07:26] <niblets> So do I put in the console command they have in italics?
[07:26] <niblets> *not italics, lighter text
[07:26] <cpk1> gugu^: I think thats it, do me a favor though and pastebin the output of 'cat /etc/network/interfaces' and also the output of 'cat /etc/dhcpd.conf'
[07:27] <Jucato_> niblets: um... you run the commands to download and add the key. then you add one of the repositories listed there to your sources.list
[07:27] <fanscore> !fr
[07:27] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:27] <intelikey> cups error   E  Unable to bind socket for address <IP_ADDRESS>:631 - Address already in use.
[07:28] <Jucato_> intelikey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs <--- good enough for you?
[07:29] <niblets> how do I add them to the sources list? Jucato_
[07:29] <Jucato_> !repositories | niblets
[07:29] <ubotu> niblets: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:29] <Jucato_> intructions are there
[07:29] <niblets> thanks
[07:29] <gugu^> cpk1: on private
[07:30] <cpk1> !pastebin | gugu^
[07:30] <ubotu> gugu^: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:30] <intelikey> Jucato_ yea   http://tinyurl.com/ye7s6w   that i can see   (:
[07:30] <gugu^> cpk1:  ok
[07:30] <gugu^> auto eth0
[07:30] <gugu^> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[07:30] <niblets> So updating this would update Kopete? Jucato_
[07:30] <cpk1> gugu^: NO
[07:30] <gugu^> auto eth1
[07:30] <cpk1> gugu^: stop
[07:30] <gugu^> iface eth1 inet static
[07:30] <gugu^> address <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:30] <cpk1> gugu^: ...
[07:30] <gugu^> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:30] <gugu^> gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:31] <Jucato> niblets: it would update all of KDE, including Kopete
[07:31] <gugu^> pre-up /sbin/iptables-restore /etc/network/iptables.rules
[07:31] <cpk1> gugu^: did you read the factoid?
[07:31] <gugu^> auto eth2
[07:31] <gugu^> iface eth2 inet dhcp
[07:31] <gugu^> auto ath0
[07:31] <gugu^> iface ath0 inet dhcp
[07:31] <gugu^> auto wlan0
[07:31] <gugu^> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[07:31] <gugu^> iface dsl-provider inet ppp
[07:31] <gugu^> provider dsl-provider
[07:31] <cpk1> ...
[07:31] <gugu^> cpk1:  yes
[07:32] <intelikey> does anyone know how to kill a socket ?
[07:32] <gugu^> cpk1: sorry
[07:32] <intelikey> cups error   E  Unable to bind socket for address <IP_ADDRESS>:631 - Address already in use.
[07:32] <cpk1> gugu^: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org click that link then paste the text into that and then press the paste bottom at the bottom of that page
[07:33] <intelikey> E [20/Feb/2007:00:32:59 -0600]  Unable to save remote.cache - Permission denied   also getting that error
[07:34] <oleg> I need help with ubuntu's automount system. Usually multiple users are logged into the computer through kde. When an active user inserts media into the computer, other user gets media access rights instead.
[07:35] <gugu^> cpk1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6680/
[07:37] <Jucato_> ok this is getting annoying
[07:37] <Jucato> seriously...
[07:37] <cpk1> gugu^: looks good but comment out option domain-name "fugue.com"; and option domain-name-servers toccata.fugue.com; in /etc/dhcpd.conf you dont need those
[07:37] <niblets> When I changed the repositories on Adept, it says I have to hit apply, but the apply button is faded (un clickable)
[07:38] <gugu^> cpk1:  so I can remove theme
[07:38] <cpk1> gugu^: just put a # at the beginning of the line they are on
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> niblets: are you suod
[07:39] <gugu^> ok
[07:39] <shawnyboi> hey whats up?
[07:39] <Admiral_Chicago> hello
[07:39] <niblets> Admiral_Chicago Am I what, sorry?
[07:39] <Admiral_Chicago> niblets: did you enter your password at anypoint?
[07:40] <niblets> yes
[07:40] <niblets> I got a prompt when I opened adept
[07:40] <gugu^> cpk1: thank you
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, okay have a screenshoot?
[07:40] <gugu^> cpk1:  Can I give You one more quiestion?
[07:41] <gugu^> :)
[07:41] <cpk1> gugu^: now when you restart box1 everything *should* work
[07:41] <cpk1> sure
[07:41] <gugu^> cpk1:  how to install xlibs
[07:41] <cpk1> xlibs-data?
[07:42] <cpk1> sudo aptitude install xlibs-data
[07:42] <niblets> Admiral_Chicago I do, but how can I show you it?
[07:42] <Admiral_Chicago> niblets: upload it to imageshack
[07:43] <niblets> ok.
[07:43] <willy> #kubuntu-es
[07:45] <niblets> Ok, nevermind, I have gotten past that. But now I have applied the universe multiverse thing, what do I do? the guide doesnt say how to get KDE 3.5.6 from there on
[07:45] <gugu^> cpk1:  I whant to install ymessenger,and theire says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6682/
[07:46] <cpk1> gugu^: so try aptitude install -f?
[07:47] <underdog5004> so, when I get katapult up, and I type in "swif" I get the swiftfox browser. If I type in "swift" I get a link to www.getswiftfox.com, which opens in konq...any ideas?
[07:47] <Admiral_Chicago> underdog5004: it's in your home directore...
[07:47] <Jucato> actually, it's the Bookmark Catalog conflicting with the Programs Catalog
[07:48] <Jucato> (afaik and iirc)
[07:48] <Jucato> you can remove the Bookmark catalog if you want.
[07:48] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, that is also a possibility
[07:48] <underdog5004> Admiral_Chicago, I'm looking at my /home now...can't see any .katapult dir or anything like that...
[07:48] <Admiral_Chicago> underdog5004: look at your bookmarks
[07:48] <Jucato> Alt+Space, Ctrl+C (to bring up the config menu) -> Configure Katapult -> Catalogs -> remove Bookmark Catalog
[07:49] <Admiral_Chicago> or it may be in kmenu
[07:49] <gugu^> cpk1: yes, but i can`t install yamessenger
[07:49] <underdog5004> nope on bookmarks and nope on .kmenu...
[07:49] <underdog5004> or kmenu
[07:50] <Jucato> underdog5004: did you try removing the bookmark catalog?
[07:50] <underdog5004> I don't see one, even in my /home w/ hidden folders shown...
[07:50] <Jucato> underdog5004: <Jucato> Alt+Space, Ctrl+C (to bring up the config menu) -> Configure Katapult -> Catalogs -> remove Bookmark Catalog
[07:51] <underdog5004> thanks
[07:51] <underdog5004> I see it now...you rock
[07:53] <Contrast012083> What's up, everyone?
[07:53] <Contrast012083> Does anyone here have both Gnome and KDE installed?
[07:54] <underdog5004> Jucato, very cool, I got it!
[07:55] <Contrast012083> Is there any way to configure the way GTK apps look in KDE, besides what's available in KControl?
[07:58] <underdog5004> idk
[07:59] <d03boy> i was just playing with my video settings and now i cant change my resolution back to 1280x800
[07:59] <d03boy> i change it, but when I restart X it doesnt save it ors omething
[07:59] <d03boy> its weird
[07:59] <underdog5004> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:00] <d03boy> ...thats a little rediculous :P
[08:00] <d03boy> i know what videocard I have. I know what monitor I have
[08:00] <underdog5004> well...yeah...
[08:00] <Contrast012083> d03boy, was 1280x800 the default setting when you installed Kubuntu?
[08:00] <d03boy> Contrast012083, I believe so
[08:00] <Contrast012083> then yeah, just run the command underdog said.
[08:00] <d03boy> there is a specific "monitor driver" that shows up in the list for my laptop
[08:02] <d03boy> ugh... once I start this reconfigure, can I cnacel out of it?
[08:02] <d03boy> cancel
[08:02] <Contrast012083> No, it make a backup of the file it's overwriting.
[08:03] <Contrast012083> What it does is reset your xorg.conf (the file that determines all the settings your display device, video card, and input devices) back to its default settings.
[08:03] <d03boy> well I just totally screwed up that command
[08:03] <d03boy> so I need to fix it now
[08:03] <d03boy> back to what it was a minute ago
[08:04] <gugu^> cpk1:When i whant to install ymessenger, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6685/
[08:04] <Contrast012083> Do you use Beryl or Compiz?
[08:05] <d03boy> who are you talking to?
[08:05] <Contrast012083> you.
[08:05] <d03boy> i'm not using either of them
[08:05] <Contrast012083> gugu, did you check and see if you have those packages installed in Synaptic?
[08:05] <Contrast012083> Then you should be good. Just run that command and you're set.
[08:06] <Contrast012083> If that doesn't work the way you want it to...
[08:06] <Contrast012083> Open Konqueror as root (Alt+F2, kdesu konqueror), go to /etc/X11, switch the view mode to Tree, and sort by date...
[08:07] <d03boy> im still confused as to why I cant just use the system settings :P
[08:07] <Contrast012083> Then open xorg.conf and whichever backup file was modified around the time you started messing with things. Just delete the contents of xorg.conf and paste the contents of the other one in to it.
[08:07] <d03boy> you'd think it would work...
[08:08] <Contrast012083> Yeah, you'd think so. It usually does, but it has problems with certain devices sometimes.
[08:08] <Contrast012083> How long have you been using Linux?
[08:08] <d03boy> a few years
[08:08] <d03boy> its my secondary laptop though
[08:08] <d03boy> so I dont use it primarily
[08:08] <d03boy> it usually just sits here with irc open
[08:08] <Contrast012083> And you're still not comfortable editing config. files? :-P
[08:08] <d03boy> ya I am
[08:09] <d03boy> xorg has always been a problem for me
[08:09] <d03boy> it doesnt like my hardware I think
[08:09] <Contrast012083> J/p...  If it doesn't work, you can always run that command to reset it.
[08:11] <Contrast012083> Oh, one thing to keep in mind...
[08:12] <Contrast012083> Running that command will reset your driver back to the free "nv" driver.
[08:12] <Contrast012083> Open a terminal, type nv and hit tab a couple times. You'll see all the different NVidia tools that came with the prop. driver.
[08:12] <d03boy> ya, thats why i decided to cancel :P
[08:13] <Contrast012083> Did you see what I was saying about just copying and pasting your previous xorg.conf into the current one?
[08:13] <d03boy> ya i already did that
[08:13] <d03boy> with mv
[08:14] <d03boy> hopefully thats ok
[08:14] <Contrast012083> Should be good then. That's what I always do when I've screwed something up and it's always worked.
[08:15] <d03boy> cool
[08:16] <Contrast012083> Once you're sure it's working alright, you might want to keep a copy of your working xorg.conf in an easy-to-remember place so you won't have to hunt through /etc/X11 for the right one.
[08:16] <d03boy> good call
[08:17] <Contrast012083> Have you checked out Beryl before/know what it is?
[08:18] <d03boy> ive heard about it and seen videos
[08:18] <d03boy> i was actually considering installing it
[08:18] <d03boy> i dont know a lot about it though
[08:19] <Contrast012083> Which release of Kubuntu are you using?
[08:19] <captnjack4564> what do i get by downloading the dvd instead of the cd?
[08:19] <Contrast012083> Good question. I didn't even know there was a DVD.
[08:19] <underdog5004> captnjack4564, more packages.
[08:19] <underdog5004> well, more packages available w/o d/l'ing them
[08:20] <Contrast012083> More bloat, in other words. :-\
[08:20] <d03boy> im on dapper
[08:20] <captnjack4564> bloat... kinda like vista?
[08:20] <underdog5004> no, more bloat readily available
[08:20] <Contrast012083> That'd be tough to match, captnjack4564.
[08:21] <captnjack4564> haha yeah... so you guys dont think there would be advantage in downloading the dvd
[08:21] <Contrast012083> do3boy, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[08:21] <d03boy> i installed with the netinstall captnjack
[08:21] <captnjack4564> where do i find the netinstall... i didnt know it existed
[08:22] <Jucato> captnjack4564: if you don't have an very good internet connection and you want more package readily available without having to download, you're better off with the DVD
[08:22] <Contrast012083> captnjack, I personally don't, but you might want to find out what is actually included in the DVD. It might be stuff you would use.
[08:22] <Jucato> afaik, the DVD includes all of main and restricted, and some universe apps
[08:22] <d03boy> aw, beryl is not supported on dapper :(
[08:23] <d03boy> oh well, who needs support?
[08:23] <captnjack4564> well i'm on a university network so download speed really isn't an issue ;)
[08:23] <Contrast012083> The Beryl forums are good enough support for me.
[08:24] <Contrast012083> jack, I'd say go with the CD. You can always look through the repositories on Synaptic and decide what you want to install yourself.
[08:24] <captnjack4564> sweet thanks
[08:25] <Contrast012083> I'd like to see Ubuntu start offering a custom install option, where it asks you what all you do on your computer throughout the process, and only installs the relevant packages.
[08:26] <vge> Contrast012083: i think it's simple that way that it installs "everything" for new people
[08:27] <d03boy> ya
[08:27] <captnjack4564> where can i find the netinstall just out of curiosity to look at it?
[08:27] <d03boy> maybe there isnt one... maybe I did dl the whole cd
[08:27] <Jucato> there's a netinstall, but not an official CD afaik
[08:27] <Jucato> !netinstall
[08:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:28] <captnjack4564> wicked
[08:28] <Contrast012083> True, but I'm just saying it'd be nice if they could put up a seperate ISO for more experienced users who don't want to spend the first hour after installing the CD removing software.
[08:31] <underdog5004> So, dell has basically cloned digg.com to see what people want. They have an "idea" that you can promote...Preinstalled linux. Go there and make it count!   www.dellideastorm.com
[08:32] <oleg> I need help with ubuntu's automount system. Usually multiple users are logged into the computer through kde. When an active user inserts media into the computer, other user gets media access rights instead.
[08:33] <user______> serena
[08:33] <underdog5004> serena?
[08:38] <user______> uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[08:39] <underdog5004> hmm, you're retarded.
[08:42] <kraut> moin
[08:49] <Ademan> anyone know about how large a fresh install of edgy is?
[08:49] <underdog5004> about 2.5 gigs
[08:49] <underdog5004> I think the installer says that your / partition needs a minimum of 2 gigs...
[08:50] <Ademan> alright cool thanks
[08:50] <underdog5004> but 2.5-3 is about what I see in rl...
[08:50] <underdog5004> np
[08:56] <_fitz_> http://www.repubblica.it/2005/i/sezioni/scienza_e_tecnologia/software/cuba-linux/cuba-linux.html
[09:02] <piro_> does firefox close suddenly for anyone else ?
[09:03] <vge> seldom, but yes
[09:03] <piro_> wondering if i should get back to 1.5
[09:04] <vge> havent bothered me that mutch as it has the "restore windows" - option, but if it's constant, i see no big deal converting back
[09:04] <vge> *would not see big..
[09:07] <yettenet> Hello there! Can anyone tell me where I can set startup applications?
[09:08] <Jucato> !autostart | yettenet
[09:08] <ubotu> yettenet: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[09:08] <yettenet> I see
[09:08] <yettenet> And where can I disable KDE remembering my previous session
[09:08] <yettenet> ?
[09:09] <Contrast012083> Yettenet, System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager.
[09:09] <Jucato> yettenet: System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager
[09:09] <Contrast012083> Start with an empty session.
[09:09] <Jucato> snap
[09:09] <yettenet> Ahm...
[09:09] <yettenet> Thanks :P
[09:09] <Contrast012083> Yup.
[09:10] <Contrast012083> Does anyone know if there's a way to configure how GTK apps look in KDE, aside from the settings in KControl?
[09:11] <piro_> wow nice bot rofl
[09:11] <Contrast012083> Or, if one had both Gnome and KDE installed, would the changes you make to the appearance of GTK apps in Gnome also apply to when you run them in KDE?
[09:14] <Kite_DH> how to install a icon theme?
[09:15] <Contrast012083> Kite_DH, System Settings -> Appearance, Icons.
[09:16] <Jucato> !changethemes | Kite_DH
[09:16] <ubotu> Kite_DH: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[09:17] <Kite_DH> hmm, i downloaded this theme, it contained folders with .png files, and a index.desktop file, where is the file i have to put into system settings> appearance > icons
[09:17] <Kite_DH> ???
[09:18] <Eltran> heya
[09:18] <Kite_DH> hi^^
[09:18] <Contrast012083> Kite, the original .tar.gz file is the one you want to use
[09:18] <Eltran> how can I force the wireless lan to connect when I start my comptuer ?
[09:19] <Jucato> Kite_DH: you don't need to extract the theme. use the .tar.gz. the instructions are on that page
[09:19] <Eltran> it doesn't connect automatically to teh netw0rk
[09:19] <Kite_DH> Jucato: thank you very much
[09:30] <underdog5004> lol, still nothing happening in here?
[09:31] <zaris> what is the name of that site that shows me all the files in ubuntu and their package??
[09:31] <underdog5004> google is your friend
[09:32] <oleg> I need help with ubuntu's automount system. Usually multiple users are logged into the computer through kde. When an active user inserts media into the computer, other user gets media access rights instead. Did anyone have same problem?
[09:32] <zaris> underdog5004: hey
[09:32] <Jucato> zaris: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:32] <zaris> underdog5004: i am coming from google
[09:32] <underdog5004> ah
[09:32] <Jucato> that one?
[09:32] <zaris> underdog5004: i think the answer is shorter than your advice
[09:32] <zaris> underdog5004: :)
[09:32] <underdog5004> rofl
[09:32] <zaris> Jucato: thanks
[09:32] <underdog5004> sorry, I didn't know the site...
[09:32] <zaris> underdog5004: ok
[09:32] <zaris> :)
[09:33] <underdog5004> Jucato, will beryl run well on i810 Integrated Graphics?
[09:33] <Jucato> underdog5004: I honestly don't know
[09:33] <Jucato> underdog5004: Google is your friend :D
[09:33] <underdog5004> oh, that was a good one!
[09:33] <underdog5004> lol
[09:33] <chavo> underdog5004, it works alright on mine
[09:33] <Jucato> !beryl | underdog5004
[09:33] <ubotu> underdog5004: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:33] <chavo> but I only have 384M ram
[09:34] <Jucato> that site may be more useful
[09:34] <underdog5004> meh...I'll just wait for my graphics card to get here...then I can set up my new (to me) computer...
[09:35] <chavo> yeah it's definitely much slower, but it does work
[09:43] <Obsidian> *sigh*
[09:43] <MasterDash> There.
[09:45] <vegasmcpc> hey, i have a raid array started and running, i just need to know what filesystem to make it and i need to know how to mount it
[09:45] <vegasmcpc> anybody able to help?
[09:46] <MasterDash> Okay folks.  Have a bit of a question regarding video capture over USB (2.0 of course)  Getting to be a pain in my ..erm..neck.
[09:47] <MasterDash> Heh..or not.  maybe the bad time of day for this.
[09:52] <karen> hi, I have user homes on second drive mounted with ntfs-3g I can read and write to disk, but user homes are owned by root. I tried chown and chgrp to make homes owned by user:user, but it does not work. Any ideas?
[09:56] <tuco> Good morning people. Anybody know how to install icon themes? Read the explanation on kde site but can't seem to do it.
[09:56] <firecrotch> karen: NTFS format partitions don't have file and folder permissions like Ext2/3, they'll always be owned by the user that mounted the drive, usually root
[09:59] <firecrotch> karen: why do you even have /home on an NTFS partition?
[10:00] <Contrast012083> tuco, System Settings -> Appearance -> Icons -> Install New Theme...
[10:00] <karen> firecrotch: its part of mirgrating from win2k 2 linux, the users hard drive was already NTFS
[10:00] <fanscore> !fr
[10:00] <Contrast012083> Then just browse to the archive file that you downloaded.
[10:00] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:01] <karen> firecrotch: this means that /home/* is all root:root, which creates a real problem with crossover office
[10:01] <Contrast012083> Alternatively, you can browse through the packages starting with "kde-icons" in Adept and install the ones you want there.
[10:02] <firecrotch> karen: unfortunately, the only way for it to not be root:root is to convert the partition to ext2 or ext3
[10:03] <tuco> I did that Contrast. I have downloaded the tar .gz file, extracted it, and went into Appearance/Icons/ and install but it doesnt work
[10:03] <karen> firecrotch: then win2k will not be able to read the partition. Is that right?
[10:03] <Contrast012083> Where'd you download it from?
[10:04] <tuco> can't find this: /usr/share/icons/
[10:04] <firecrotch> karen: that's correct, though there may be some program that will still let you read it from windows
[10:05] <tuco> kde look
[10:05] <Contrast012083> tuco, you mean that folder doesn't exist on your system?
[10:05] <karen> firecrotch: any suggestions for tools to convert ntfs to ext3
[10:05] <tuco> I don't know how to get to it :-(?
[10:06] <Contrast012083> you have to be root to make any changes to it. you should be able to read it fine though.