[20:15] <Scunizi> If I use the live cd to copy files off the internal HD to an external usb HD will it change the permissions of the files? the files are coming from a windows install that is "going away" permanently.
[20:15] <nubuntu> guys is it possible there is/are hidden processes going on in my box?  system monitor processes list shows firefox using about 20% of cpu, and system monitor fluctuatiing between 20 and 29%, and yet the machine is very unresponsive, and the cpu meter is showing activity total between 98% -100% ... do i have bots? am i an unwitting zombie?  is there a recommended shampoo for this?
[20:15] <gordonjcp> IntuitiveNipple / bobertdos : thanks anyway, it looks like I'm keeping my dual-boot partition around for a while yet
[20:15] <Scunizi> nubuntu: nope you don't have bots.. virus's etc.. but I don't know what the answer is.
[20:16] <Bikerbob> how do you blacklist a module?
[20:16] <daklan> nubuntu: run "top" in a terminal. see which process is using most of the cpu's processing time
[20:16] <Scunizi> !blacklist | Bikerbob
[20:16] <bobertdos> gordonjcp: Launchpad seems to confirm that this IS in fact a Hardy bug, so I hope they'll fix it in Ibex or another upcoming release.
[20:16] <Neaai> Scunizi: If the source partition of your files is ntfs you don't care about permitions anyhow
[20:17] <nubuntu> daklan, just type 'top' into term?
[20:17] <daklan> nubuntu:
[20:17] <gordonjcp> bobertdos: urgh.  Oh well.  Hardy has been a bit of a friday teatime job, hasn't it?
[20:17] <daklan> nubuntu: yes
[20:17] <Bikerbob> do I have to update anything when I add to the blacklist?
[20:17] <Scunizi> Neaai: true.. but I'm planning on copying these back to the internal HD after I install Ubuntu..
[20:17] <nubuntu> daklan, ok, i go try
[20:18] <Neaai> Scunizi: But will they be restored again in a ntfs partition ?
[20:18] <gordonjcp> thanks folks
[20:18] <snova> why does apt-get want to upgrade/install packages when i specify removal of other packages?
[20:18] <indian_munnda_> anyone please help i am really in trouble, my hardy is not showing its bars(Task bar and Appliction bars)
[20:18] <zimbres> i have changed my display manager from gdm to xdm, and it seems i am having some problems with my keyboard layout. How do i turn back to gdm
[20:18] <Scunizi> Neaai: nope.. ext3
[20:18] <Neaai> Scunizi: and they come from a ntfs partition, right ?
[20:18] <david_> Is it possible to run a command in a shell script and run a while script that checks if it is running
[20:19] <david_> i mean while loop
[20:19] <Scunizi> Neaai: from ntfs through the live cd to external usb Hd (fat32) then back to ext3 using the freshly installed ubuntu
[20:19] <Spragie> !patience
[20:19] <Neaai> Scunizi: then don't worry. Go on with the copy. Permitions are sensible in their own filesystem.
[20:20] <indian_munnda_> anyone please help i am really in trouble,I think my hardy is suffering from some gnome graphics problm, my hardy is not showing its bars(Task bar and Appliction bars)
[20:20] <Scunizi> zimbres: on the login screen choose sessions and change back to gdm or gnome.
[20:20] <Spragie> Does anyone know how to refresh a usb mouse ?
[20:20] <Scunizi> Neaai: thanks
[20:20] <znik> at the time of boot after ubuntu is loading. it says not boot image.what should i do?
[20:20] <bpS> her
[20:20] <Scunizi> Spragie: cheese?
[20:20] <Neaai-afk> Scunizi: np
[20:20] <asathoor> !bootimage
[20:20] <Spragie> Scunizi : not catch, restart ;]
[20:20] <odracir> can somebody help me with my msiwind notebook keyboard problem
[20:20] <gaintsura> ndmp is showing as an open port on my system, how can I close that?
[20:21] <bpS> HEYY
[20:21] <Scunizi> Spragie: cattle prod :))
[20:21] <znik> at the time of boot after ubuntu is loading. it says not boot image.what should i do?
[20:21] <Spragie> Scunizi : im about to try a bfh :D
[20:21] <Spragie> !mouse failure
[20:21] <zimbres> Scunizi, thanks
[20:21] <Blacklemon67> How can I run a loop in the shell that checks if a python app has exited or not?
[20:21] <andresmujica> hi i've just upgraded 2 systems and firefox was broken by the update
[20:21] <Scunizi> zimbres: np
[20:21] <andresmujica> anyone have heard something about it?
[20:22] <bobertdos> znik: Are you referring to the boot splash image?
[20:22] <Blacklemon67> Um, do you have pmof?
[20:22] <Blacklemon67> pmog sorry
[20:22] <Scunizi> andresmujica: nope.. just did mine and restarted FF with no issues.
[20:22] <asathoor> Blacklemon67: try to use pstree somehow perhaps
[20:22] <cwhanning> any experts on alsa output around?
[20:22] <znik> bobertdos yes
[20:23] <on5sl> hey jongens..ff stoute vraag tussendoor..wat is het beste programma om in java te programmeren in linux?
[20:23] <Bikerbob> if there is a file in modprobe.d with blacklist-(something) will all those files be loaded? I have a number of blacklist files.
[20:23] <mizai> andresmujica: I have the same problem
[20:23] <Neaai-afk> Blacklemon67: you can check periodically for the name or pid of your app by checking what "ps ux" gives you
[20:23] <on5sl> ik heb al gehoord van netbean en eclipse?
[20:24] <cwhanning> looking for some advice about getting a USB headset to work
[20:24] <mizai> andresmujica, is it something along the lines of "no installationEngine"?
[20:24] <andresmujica> ok after a second view it seems i let a firefox widow open.... i'm gonna check with a third box...
[20:24] <_Zeus_> Blacklemon67: you could use pgrep processname, and if there's no result, then it's gone
[20:24] <unop> Blacklemon67,  do you launch the python app yourself?
[20:25] <andresmujica> yeap that same error
[20:25] <Blacklemon67> yes
[20:25] <Blacklemon67> from the script
[20:25] <andresmujica> but it was my fault
[20:25] <bpS> hy
[20:25] <andresmujica> i didn't close all the firefox windows
[20:25] <andresmujica> i'm chechking right now with another box
[20:25] <bpS> know on programation bash
[20:25] <bpS> ?
[20:25] <andresmujica> hang on a sec and i'll let you now.
[20:25] <bobertdos> !x > znik
[20:25] <bpS> BASH?
[20:25] <Pici> bpS: #bash would be a better place to ask
[20:26] <bpS> ?
[20:26] <unop> Blacklemon67,  while pgrep 'appname'; do echo app still running; sleep 2; done
[20:26] <nubuntu> daklan, http://paste.ubuntu.com/50234/
[20:26] <mrcontreras> hola
[20:27] <mizai> andresmujica, I found a rogue firefox window on another workspace, the problem seems to be fixed now
[20:27] <mizai> andresmujica, so much for that :P
[20:27] <unop> Blacklemon67, if you launch the app yourself, you can capture it's PID into a variable and check that pid instead.
[20:28] <unop> Blacklemon67,  app &; app_pid=$!;  while kill -0 $app_pid; do echo app is still running; sleep 2; done
[20:28] <daklan> nubuntu: well, it looks like you are using swap a lot, and RAM utilization is heavy
[20:29] <daklan> nubuntu: that's probably what's causing your system to act sluggish
[20:30] <l3d> again I was wondering if any one knew of a way to make gnome commander the defualt file manager
[20:30] <vlad> hello
[20:30] <vlad> i need some help
[20:30] <Scunizi> ask vlad.. ask.. what's the question
[20:30] <Pihhan> hello
[20:31] <Pihhan> is it possible still modify upcoming interpid?
[20:31] <halirutan> hi there
[20:31] <vlad> is there a way to download adobe shockwave plugin onto linux because it wont let me play flash games online
[20:31] <nubuntu> daklan, but why is it using so much, any clue?
[20:31] <gaintsura> vlad: flash-nonfree in repos
[20:31] <gaintsura> I think
[20:32] <vlad> huh?
[20:32] <vlad> sorry im bad with computers
[20:33] <unop> vlad, do you know how to install packages using synaptic?
[20:33] <snova> why does apt-get want to install stuff when i tell it to remove packages?
[20:33] <_Zeus_> Pihhan: what do you mean?
[20:33] <_Zeus_> snova: because there are updates
[20:33] <vlad> nope im a complete newbie the only thing i did was install it via terminal but i got the codes online
[20:33] <nucco> help, I'm unable to install python-dev. tells me 'python2.5-dev but it is not going to be installed'
[20:34] <unop> snova, because removing a package might leave a bigger set of packages hanging - and apt-get tries its best to resolve the situation, that happens to be the installation of other packages
[20:34] <halirutan> can anyone tell me why an application started in gnome isn't seeing my libs I use in the ld.so.conf??
[20:34] <daklan> nubuntu: well, firefox is using a big chunk of it
[20:34] <Pihhan> _Zeus_: i would like get fixed some sony vaio laptop controls, and they are still not fixed after months
[20:34] <unop> vlad, well, run this command then.   sudo aptitude update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:34] <_Zeus_> Pihhan: do you have a patch for it?
[20:34] <snova> unop: ok. is there a way to tell what packages are causing this? because i probably don't need them :-)
[20:35] <nucco> how do I force a specific version of a package?
[20:35] <unop> snova, it might be better to use aptitude for this task
[20:35] <unop> nucco, sudo aptitude install package=version
[20:35] <IntuitiveNipple> Pihhan: Do you have a Launchpad bug report reference # ?
[20:35] <Sergi1> when i create an plain text document and save it it appera like QuickTime image
[20:35] <nucco> unop: can't do that via synaptic?
[20:35] <Pihhan> _Zeus_: i have working solution. but not patch for any package made
[20:35] <vlad> thank you so is there anything else i should do after it downloads?
[20:35] <unop> nucco, there might be, but i don't know - as i don't use the gnome desktop
[20:35] <pvh_sa> hi there... i can't seem to get audio recording working on ubuntu - simply getting nothing from the mike - any ideas?
[20:36] <Sephr> hey I'm looking for a place where I can buy 1 (not 20, ect) ubuntu desktop 64-bit alternate installer cd
[20:36] <IntuitiveNipple> Pihhan: Create a bug report and attach the patch along with an explanation
[20:36] <snova> unop: how will aptitude help? some special abilities?
[20:36] <daklan> nubuntu: "ps aux|grep firefox" and see if you've got a firefox instance that's hogging the memory. you can pretty much figure out what that process is doing by looking at the "COMMAND" column
[20:36] <Pihhan> IntuitiveNipple: yes, there are about 6 bug reports about sony vaio controls, most of them the same
[20:36] <Sephr> I can't burn cds/dvd's with this computer because it doesn't work anymore
[20:36] <unop> snova, it has a different conflict resolution algorithm - so it might come up with a different solution (hopefully better)
[20:36] <nucco> unop: synaptic does have a way, but it doesn't work. aptitude seems to be doing something
[20:37] <ericz> did the firefox/xulrunner update break anything in firefox for anyone else?
[20:37] <IntuitiveNipple> Pihhan: choose the most appropriate bug report and attach the patch along with an explanation, and then subscribe kernel-acpi-team
[20:37] <Pihhan> so, if i make a patch, are there changes they will get it into intrepid before release?
[20:37] <woli> Why can i not rename my hard drive?
[20:37] <Sephr> 8.04 or 8.10 are both fine
[20:37] <woli> its called Filesystem and that sucks...
[20:37] <Sephr> so anyone know where I could buy one?
[20:37] <_Zeus_> Pihhan: the intrepid freeze is very soon
[20:38] <Blacklemon67> How can I run a program in a shell script and tell the program not to wait untill it's finished running
[20:38] <nucco> Pihhan: if it doesn't make it in now, and its important, it might soon after release
[20:38] <arrrghhh> can someone help me configure xorg?  dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg doesn't configure anything.  i'll pastebin my xorg.conf
[20:38] <iluvatar> quit
[20:38] <eldoskinetic> hai
[20:38] <unop> woli, what filesystem on this volume?
[20:38] <_Zeus_> Pihhan: the intrepid freeze is tomorrow
[20:38] <IntuitiveNipple> Pihhan: It depends on the patch, and what efforts you've made to get it accepted upstream.
[20:38] <nucco> arrrghhh: you can just delete the xorg.conf file, and then rerun the reconfigure thingy
[20:38] <arrrghhh> http://pastebin.com/d5cc4b9a8
[20:38] <Pihhan> oh, are you saying i have about 5 hours to make it? :)
[20:38] <woli> it says "operation not supported by backend". unop, its just a harddrive. A physical hard drive formatted in ext3..
[20:38] <arrrghhh> nucco, i tried that, it still doesn't set anything up.  my xorg.conf is so stripped.
[20:39] <woli> unop: its my root
[20:39] <nucco> arrrghhh: what exactly is the problem?
[20:39] <unop> arrrghhh, reconfiguring xserver-xorg does nothing much nowadays - as the new xorg tries to do without a conf file
[20:39] <Pihhan> IntuitiveNipple: i am not ubuntu developer and i dont know what i need to do to get it accepted upstream
[20:39] <GeForce88-away> i just changed audio cards ubuntu 8.04 and i need to know how to re configure alsa to use the new hardware. it's reporting there are no devices found. well duh, i removed it and added a new one.
[20:39] <ryan__> I just installed a new video card and Now there are only two options for the resolution.  640x480 being the largest.
[20:39] <ryan__> Please help.
[20:39] <_Zeus_> !ask | ryan__
[20:39] <snova> unop: i found out what was happening, pylint depends on it, but newer versions don't.
[20:39] <IntuitiveNipple> Pihhan: contact the driver maintainer, possibly via linux-acpi mailing list.
[20:40] <ryan__> ubottu: got it.
[20:40] <arrrghhh> nucco, well there's some strange lines and wavyness on the screen, and i can't get the resolution to where i want it (1280x1024).  plus, i'd like to use a little 3d acceleration if i can.  the driver should be the i810 driver, but i'm betting it's just defaulting back to vesa
[20:40] <arrrghhh> unop, so what do you suggest?
[20:40] <unop> woli, have a look at e2label to change a filesystem's label.
[20:40] <unop> woli, or an extX's filesystem label rather.
[20:40] <gnubie> GeForce88-away, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems  have you checked here?
[20:41] <GeForce88-away> gnubie , i will now
[20:41] <Pihhan> is there working solution for xrandr extension for control backlight on intels 965GM?
[20:41] <unop> arrrghhh, manually editing the xorg.conf for the specific options you want to override - it will try and be automagic on the rest.
[20:41] <woli> unop: ok
[20:41] <l3d> again I was wondering if any one knew of a way to make gnome commander the defualt file manager
[20:42] <arrrghhh> unop, hrm.  i'm not that good at editing it on my own, especially when the "default" one it loads it so stripped.  can you look at my pastebinned xorg.conf and maybe point me in the right direction as to what i need to adjust?  i mainly want it to use the i810 intel driver instead of vesa, and do 1280x1024, and maybe set some vertrefresh settings or HorizSync settings to see if i can get rid of this waviness.
[20:42] <asathoor> !default file manager
[20:42] <GeForce88-away> gnubie i need to do more checking, it's not detected
[20:42] <woli> unop: is the harddisk sda0 or sda1 ?
[20:42] <errr> is it possible to get 32bit firefox installed on 64bit ubuntu?
[20:42] <vlad> anyone know any online rpgs that will work on linux ubuntu??/
[20:42] <arrrghhh> asathoor, it's nautilus in gnome/ubuntu.
[20:43] <afeijo> who can help me with bash??
[20:43] <Sephr> can someone answer my question that I asked please?
[20:43] <unop> l3d, hmm, i guess it's a tough job unless you don't use nautilus at all ..
[20:43] <compengi> errr, sure. this kind of install is used if a user wants to user Java
[20:43] <asathoor> arrrghhh > yea ;-)
[20:43] <compengi> use*
[20:43] <urthmover> vlad: go try Ikariam
[20:43] <arrrghhh> errr, yes, that is how people use flash w/64-bit systems.
[20:43] <Pihhan> IntuitiveNipple: is it possible to code in live dvd session?
[20:43] <snova> errr: probably. but why not use the 64 bit version?
[20:43] <afeijo> ikariam sux
[20:43] <urthmover> lol
[20:43] <errr> compengi: how do I get it
[20:43] <snova> errr: oh, never mind, i see why
[20:43] <afeijo> My game is much better
[20:43] <Sephr> I asked where can I get an ubuntu desktop (8.04 or 8.10) 64-bit alternate installer cd...
[20:43] <guntbert> afeijo: ask in #bash
[20:43] <errr> snova: need 32bit for firepass support
[20:43] <vlad> urthmover is it any good?
[20:43] <arrrghhh> Sephr, ubuntu.com
[20:43] <Sephr> and I can't burn with this drive
[20:43] <urthmover> afeijo: which is?
[20:44] <Sephr> arrrghhh: they don't sell/offer the alternate installer cd
[20:44] <IntuitiveNipple> Pihhan: 'code' ? you can do anything that the resources support. As it is live there is no disk use unless you manually mount one of course.
[20:44] <kuccello> Sephr: go to a magazine store and look for a linux mag
[20:44] <urthmover> I like ikariam since I don't have to babysit it
[20:44] <arrrghhh> Sephr, yes they do.
[20:44] <Sephr> only the iso to burn for youself
[20:44] <Sephr> arrrghhh: where?
[20:44] <arrrghhh> Sephr, of course, it's free of charge
[20:44] <afeijo> urthmover: www.outer-core.com, I'm working on it, few bugs left and few resources to be coded.  Its space based, with ships, planets, tech, etc.
[20:44] <urthmover> but then again  there is alot still to be developed
[20:44] <unop> arrrghhh, do you have the xserver-xorg-video-i810 package installed?
[20:44] <Sephr> arrrghhh: is it the ALTERNATE installer?
[20:44] <urthmover> Ajedrez: I'll check it out
[20:44] <urthmover> Ajedrez: is it similar to ogame?
[20:45] <nucco> arrrghhh: sorry I got disconnected. then use the provided xorg.conf file and add a 'Driver "i810"' line in the "Device" section.
[20:45] <erudite_> Does anyone know how to schedule ftp downloads?
[20:45] <arrrghhh> Sephr, you can download like 5 different versions of ubuntu from their site.  server, alternate, minimal, etc.  64-bit and 32-bit versions of both
[20:45] <arrrghhh> nucco, k thanks.
[20:45] <Sephr> arrrghhh: you don't listen, I SAID CD
[20:45] <Sephr> I also said I can't burn with this drive
[20:45] <snova> what are the linux-headers-* packages good for? are they only useful for building kernel modules?
[20:45] <arrrghhh> unop, yessir
[20:45] <erUSUL> snova: exactly
[20:45] <afeijo> urthmover: ogame sux big time!! its similar to astroempires
[20:45] <arrrghhh> Sephr, that's nice, they will send you a free cd.
[20:45] <compengi> errr, check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435
[20:45] <Sephr> WHERE?
[20:45] <unop> arrrghhh, try as nucco suggested then
[20:45] <RainCT> Hi
[20:46] <snova> erUSUL: good
[20:46] <urthmover> Ajedrez: I'll check it out thanks for the heads up
[20:46] <Sephr> the shipit.ubuntu.com site doesn't offer the alternate installer
[20:46] <unop> !fixres | arrrghhh - this might help you too
[20:46] <arrrghhh> unop, and yes i have that package installed.
[20:46] <Pihhan> what i need to build package in live session? apt suggest dpkg-dev package, but no such is in intrepid repo
[20:46] <errr> compengi: thank you
[20:46] <Sephr> arrrghh: can you please actually give me a link to the page where I can get the 64-bit alternate installer?
[20:46] <unop> !intrepid | Pihhan
[20:46] <woli> unop: i did sudo e2label /dev/sda1 "Hard Disk" but it didn't work; yet, it did not return any error
[20:46] <vlad> is there any game like guild wars that can be played on linux nevest ubuntu version?
[20:46] <erUSUL> Pihhan: you need the build-essential and the dependencies of the package
[20:46] <IntuitiveNipple> Sephr: http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/
[20:46] <RainCT> I just got a Samsung SGH-ZV60 with an USB cable and lsusb lists it but it isn't automounteed. Can someone tell me how to mount it?
[20:47] <milosevic> hi, i'm an ubuntu user and i need objdump for sparc binaries... where i can i find it?
[20:47] <Sephr> omg noone listens
[20:47] <compengi> !games > vlad
[20:47] <unop> woli, so, what does   e2label /dev/sda1  give you now?
[20:47] <erUSUL> vlad: i'm a happy "wine + GW" linux player
[20:47] <nubuntu> dadlan, hitokiri, heres the two commands: http://paste.ubuntu.com/50243/
[20:47] <znik> bobertdos i m here
[20:47] <Sephr> I'll say it all in one thing: I can't burn cd/dvds with my drive, so where can I get the ubuntu 8.04 or 8.10 64-bit alternate installer CD or DVD??
[20:47] <Pihhan> unop: thanks
[20:47] <erUSUL> vlad: GW works beautifully in wine. check appdb for tips on wine conf
[20:47] <cwhanning> anyone got any advice on configuring alsa output to a usb headset?
[20:47] <erUSUL> !appdb | vlad
[20:48] <vlad> ubottu? how do i see private message
[20:48] <SlimeyPete> !shipit
[20:48] <arrrghhh> Sephr, you're not listening to me.  if you'd look on their site, they will send you a free disc of WHATEVER version you want.
[20:48] <nucco> Sephr: use another computer to burn. if you download the alternate, you still have to burn it
[20:48] <SlimeyPete> Sephr: ^^
[20:48] <Scunizi> Is there a way to import a .wab (outlook express) file into Evolution?
[20:48] <woli> unop: the command output: "e2label: Permission denied while trying to open /dev/sda   Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock." The drive name: Filesystem (same as before)
[20:48] <Sephr> I never said I was going to download it
[20:48] <compengi> vlad, it pm'd you
[20:48] <unop> woli, /dev/sda1
[20:48] <erUSUL> Scunizi: probavly there are apps out there to turn wab to mbox and then import that to evo
[20:48] <Sephr> nucco: I had no intentions of downloading it because neither of my computers can burn dvds
[20:48] <bobertdos> Alright people, what znik appears to have is a royally botched xorg.conf after trying to build some sort of package. He did a series of copies and other piping of commands that I'm pretty sure corrupted the file. I have no idea how to reverse this one :p
[20:48] <nucco> Sephr: then what do you want? a free cd? go to ubuntu.com and look around, or go to amazon.com and buy one :)
[20:48] <unop> woli, and you might need to use sudo there .. if you get permission errors
[20:48] <compengi> erUSUL, i think vlad asked about a game on linux
[20:49] <SlimeyPete> shipit's the way to go, Sephr
[20:49] <Sephr> nucco: I already said what I want
[20:49] <Scunizi> erUSUL: thanks.. just preping for a friends total conversion to Ubuntu..
[20:49] <woli> unop: e2label /dev/sda1 returns the same as sda
[20:49] <unop> bobertdos, revert to a backup?
[20:49] <nucco> Sephr: I just joined this channel
[20:49] <IntuitiveNipple> Sephr: You ask someone nicely to burn it for you
[20:49] <compengi> erUSUL, 21:46:37 < vlad> is there any game like guild wars that can be played on linux nevest ubuntu version?
[20:49] <Sephr> everyone: shipit only gives me the NORMAL x86 and 64 bit dvd options
[20:49] <Sephr> no alt cd
[20:49] <SlimeyPete> ah.
[20:49] <unop> woli,  what does this command give you?   mount | grep sda1
[20:49] <bobertdos> unop: I can't even be sure he has one...it's that screwy :p
[20:49] <erUSUL> compengi: well he asked specifically about guild wars... if he can run his copy of GW on linux why not?
[20:50] <woli> unop: with sudo it gives me the name i assigned, but the icon when i browse computer has Filesystem as name
[20:50] <unop> bobertdos, did you walk him through the commands to be issued?
[20:50] <nucco> Sephr: that's all they offer, anything else, and you need another means. you gotta find somewhere to burn it, I think.
[20:50] <compengi> erUSUL, i see.. :)
[20:50] <comicinker> woli: you probably need /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2
[20:50] <unop> woli, i guess you will have to restart nautilus - best thing to log off and log back on
[20:50] <IntuitiveNipple> Sephr: The alternate download is a 700MB CD, not a DVD. Can your systems burn CDs?
[20:50] <vlad> well i tried to install guild wars through the wine before it took me around 2 days to do but it wouldnt work :(
[20:50] <hz> hey how to fit the movie with screen in mplayer ?
[20:50] <woli> unop: oh ok
[20:51] <erUSUL> hz: press "f"
[20:51] <woli> comicinker: no, its sda ( i checked with gparted _
[20:51] <compengi> vlad, did you check WineHQ forums for help?
[20:51] <woli> coming backin a few secs
[20:51] <bobertdos> unop: not yet, I don't trust myself to do that successfully with all noobs.
[20:51] <qubexy> J #ubuntu-dk
[20:51] <woli> unop: can i do killall nautilus ?
[20:51] <comicinker> woli: do nautilus -q
[20:51] <vlad> well i found a website which had the terminal codes to download all the components needed to run guild wars on wine but it just wouldnt work
[20:51] <erUSUL> vlad: i'd had 0 errors. put the cd disk double click on the setup.exe. Follow directions. Done
[20:51] <emorris> what command is run when you click the shutdown button as a normal user?
[20:52] <woli> comicinker: ah same result... going to try relog
[20:52] <vlad> and i also checke te wine HQ forum
[20:52] <indian_munnda> can anyone help me,My hardy is suffering from some kind of gnome graphics problem. my hardy is not showing its panels(Application Bar and task bar).
[20:52] <unop> woli, you can - that might work - but you want to restart the gnome-volume-manager (or gvfs) thing too - which nautilus spawns - best to log off and log back on
[20:52] <hz> erUSUL: it become full screen but the same size of the movie not larger
[20:52] <emorris> indian_munnda: press alt-f2, type gnome-panel, and hit enter
[20:53] <woli> unop: comicinker: no different results after relog
[20:53] <Sephr> btw, why doesn't the normal install disk support RAID drives?
[20:53] <comicinker> woli: but I thought you can't give hdds a label- only their partitions. and partitions have alway a number (like sda1 or sda2)
[20:53] <hz> abt mplayer how to fit full size the movie not the screen?
[20:53] <er_valeriana> anyone have tried LINUX MCE??
[20:53] <Sephr> seems so stupid to make that alternate-install disc only
[20:53] <hz> anybody know?
[20:53] <indian_munnda> emorris: even alt-f2 is not working.
[20:53] <IntuitiveNipple> Sephr: not enough space on the CD
[20:53] <woli> comicinker: so my hdd is doomed to be named Filesystem forever?
[20:53] <unop> woli, hmm, are you positive you checked /dev/sda1 here?
[20:54] <emorris> indian_munnda: press ctrl-alt-backspace
[20:54] <Spragie> does heron take use of intel speedstep technology ?
[20:54] <Sephr> how huge would the drivers for raid drives be?
[20:54] <emorris> indian_munnda: this logs out though!
[20:54] <Sephr> they can't be over 10MB
[20:54] <woli> unop: mount | grep /dev/sda1
[20:54] <woli> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[20:54] <Spragie> be right back
[20:55] <unop> Wolf23, sudo e2label /dev/sda1  # still gives you Filesystem ?
[20:55] <IntuitiveNipple> Sephr: It's not the drivers, it's the installer infrastructure and support libraries required to handle it. The CD team bust a gut trying to fit everything in, and for Desktop usage they have to contend with a bootable system-on-disk as well as the installation requirements.
[20:55] <indian_munnda> emorris: when i typed gnome-panel at terminal, it said that this program is not installed.
[20:55] <compengi> vlad, did you check this http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9194
[20:55] <unop> indian_munnda, you'll need to reinstall the gnome-panel package then
[20:56] <indian_munnda> emorris: then i did sudo apt-get install gnome-panel. OK?
[20:56] <emorris> indian_munnda: what are you looking at now?
[20:56] <GeForce88-away> gnubie : the card is being detected cas card1 , how can i change that? as selecting the card in audio properties didn't do the trick
[20:56] <woli> unop: how is your hdd named?
[20:57] <emorris> indian_munnda: ^^
[20:57] <unop> woli, i don't have a label for sda1 - i left it blank
[20:57] <vlad> yeppp i did but when i installed it it just gave me a message that i was missing divx i think
[20:57] <indian_munnda> emorris: but its still not showing the panel.
[20:57] <woli> unop: when you open computer from places menu, whats the name under the hdd ?
[20:57] <indian_munnda> emorris: i think i need a restart, let me restart
[20:57] <unop> woli, i don't use gnome at the present
[20:57] <emorris> i said "indian_munnda: what are you looking at now?"
[20:57] <woli> unop: ah...
[20:57] <unop> ..time
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[20:58] <Sergiu> hi all
[20:58] <Sergiu> anyone know, why text file is transformed in quicktime image
[20:58] <compengi> vlad, well.. according to erUSUL the install and game went okay for him. if you have something missing, check again winehq and you probably would find an answer to your questions
[20:59] <bernrdo> guys - has ANYONE gotten an Intel x4500MHD video card to work in Ubuntu 8.04 or Intrepid ??? even with "vesa" drivers??
[20:59] <vlad> thanx
[20:59] <bernrdo> I just made a clean install - at first x just crashed to a black screen. Managed to edit xorg.conf to use "vesa" and now it loads X but crashes to a 'striped' screen
[20:59] <vlad> ill try
[20:59] <compengi> vlad, welcome and hard luck :)
[20:59] <comicinker> Sergiu: did you look at the file preferences? you can set the default program to open the file in the file preferences
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> everyone should play dark horizons lore, its awesome!! (oftopic)
[20:59] <Oxygenfad> Hey guys, Im setting up mail watcher for xfce panel. When it will run a custom command when a new mail arrives.  No I'm not, I just made a fresh install of Intrepid, there might haveen changes since i got th eCD (Alpha 6)
[21:01] <compengi> @load
[21:01] <indian_munnda> emorris: i reinstalled gnome-panel and restarted my system.
[21:01] <emorris> indian_munnda: i meant how did you fix it? what did you do to fix it?
[21:01] <bernrdo> but I can't get to a shell right now - I try to kill x with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, I see a shell for a second and then X tries starting again
[21:01] <Sergiu> comicinker, yes,but for unkown reason, the text file after saving it, it is transformed in an quicktime image..
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> bernrdo: 1. intrepid support is in ubuntu+1 and is considered broken. 2. sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:01] <pbn> Hello, on a Ubuntu 8.04 machine, I have changed the monitor, and I get "signal out of range". I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and now X displays at a correct frequency and I can see the picture... But, when Ubuntu displays its splashscreen, I still get "signal out of range"... how can I fix this ?
[21:01] <emorris> indian_munnda: oh, ok. It might also be a good idea to run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop incase anything else is missing
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> pbn: set refresh rate and resolution in xorg.conf
[21:02] <asathoor> pbn: perhaps you could try the bootoption -nosplash
[21:02] <indian_munnda> emorris: doing that also
[21:02] <bernrdo> Action: thanks. Got a shell, going to update the system now.
[21:03] <andresmujica> ok, it seems that the firefox error was caused for not closing all the instances.. i've replicated with a spare box and tested again with another one.. fiuu
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> !intrepid | bernrdo
[21:03] <andresmujica> thks
[21:03] <pbn> ActionParsnip: that is when X is running. That works. :)  My question is for when Ubuntu is booting ... instead of the splashscreen I get "signal out of range"
[21:03] <emorris> pbn: set /etc/usplash.conf to something sensible
[21:03] <Sergiu> comicinker. what pad do you use? gedit, mousepad? try to write this information and then save the file , you will see probaly that text file is transformed in quicktime image (the info: "Candidatii interesati sunt rugati sa telefoneze la 210094 sau sa trimita CV-ul prin e-mail la<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(cu mentiunea OPERATOR INTRODUCEREA DATELOR).")
[21:03] <indian_munnda> unop: thanks to u too
[21:03] <Sergiu> _
[21:03] <Sergiu> :)
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> pbn: set the vga mode for the splash screen, or just remove the splash and have the boot text
[21:04] <odinsbane> Is anybody using the next windows X server?
[21:04] <RainCT> uhm.. now f-spot detects it but I can't find the mount point
[21:04] <Pihhan> is there some easy way to get X driver name from command line?
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> Pihhan: lshw
[21:05] <bernrdo> thanks Action. I know Intrepid is in ALpha stage. I'm trying it out because ive' been told that's the only distro that might support the Intel video card I have. I'll use the other channel for further discussion
[21:05] <Scunizi> odinsbane: "the next windows X server"?  you mean X.org?
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> bernrdo: sweet
[21:06] <vallhalla82> !iso
[21:07] <RainCT> How can I know where a drive is mounted if f-spot detects it?
[21:07] <odinsbane> Scunizi X.Org 7.4 I found an article that its new, but I don't know when the article is from.
[21:07] <Sergiu> f
[21:07] <TidusBlade> Sorry guys for the noob question, but how can I figure out what file is being accessed by other computers over LAN? Someone on my LAN has been downloading from me at 11MB/s for the past 20 minutes, no idea what's happening...
[21:08] <nucco> TidusBlade: just use a firewall
[21:08] <R_YoYo_R> TidusBlade, probably not the best answer but... wireshark?
[21:08] <odinsbane> TidusBlade fuser lets you do something like that.
[21:08] <nucco> TidusBlade: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[21:09] <Pihhan> TidusBlade: depends on what protocol are they using. for ftp, you have log, for samba, you have smbstatus
[21:09] <TidusBlade> Thanks guys =]
[21:09] <TidusBlade> Yeah, I'll try fuser, if not then firestarter
[21:09] <TidusBlade> If you can do it with firestarter, isint it possible with iptables?
[21:09] <nucco> TidusBlade: possibly they're accessing your shared folders... R_YoYo_R: wireshark for a newbie?!!!
[21:09] <TidusBlade> Pihhan: SFTP, so ssh/sshd or whatever you wanna call it
[21:10] <Scunizi> Pihhan: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | less    will show you what's in the xorg file and you'll be able to scroll around and look for the driver referance.. if it's listed.. sometimes it isn't
[21:10] <Pihhan> oh, that might be difficult then
[21:10] <TidusBlade> lol not that bad with Linux myself, just new to net stuff
[21:10] <IntuitiveNipple> TidusBlade: Use sudo lsof ... and look at the processes owning the files, one should be some network daemon that handles the file transfer.
[21:10] <R_YoYo_R> nucco, wireshark is great.... even for noobs
[21:10] <Pihhan> Scunizi: i want very fast way to detect it every key press for special keys, this is not usable :)
[21:10] <TidusBlade> IntuitiveNipple: Yeah thanks, lsof was the command I was looking for :D
[21:10] <asathoor> TidusBlade: if you want to know who's online, try who or w from a prompt
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> TidusBlade: you could grep the output of lsof
[21:11] <IntuitiveNipple> Tidus: combine that with using sudo netstat -ptla
[21:11] <true\false> Hello, I've tried googling.. But not finding any luck
[21:11] <Tidus> gyg>
[21:11] <TidusBlade> ActionParsnip: Yup know that :P
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> !wireshark
[21:11] <Tidus> huh?
[21:11] <TidusBlade> IntuitiveNipple: Ah ok thanks, well found the info I needed =]
[21:11] <true\false> Trying to set my display to 1440x900? But I can't..
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> !info wireshark
[21:11] <Pihhan> true\false: try xrandr, if it does list that resolution as supported
[21:12] <Pihhan> true\false: if not, there is little you can do
[21:12] <Scunizi> !resolution | true\false
[21:12] <true\false> Pihhan, will check, thanks.. Real problem here is, I'm new to linux
[21:12] <nucco> R_YoYo_R: I'd recommend firestarter. it has nice readable links of active connections, and does not require you to know what TCP headers are.
[21:12] <Blaze_Boy> I have a Problem : i have a CD-RW Samsung as secondary slave & ASUS CD-ROM as primary slave & western digital HDD as primary master  on a ubuntu-hardy box ,they where woking properly but now the  in my computer the CD-RW is CD-ROM and doesn't mount any CD ? Can any body help?
[21:13] <true\false> Scunizi, ta, will also look at th at
[21:13] <Scunizi> true\false: it's fixable.. if you just did your install then do all the updates and then look under System/Admin/Hardware Drivers and see if your video card is listed but not activated for the restricted drivers..
[21:14] <true\false> Scunizi.. Update, right, right.. Should do that right now then.
[21:14] <azhar27> Hi guys, i have some problems with detection of Flash drive in Ubuntu, it says 'you don't have permission to mount the device'
[21:14] <vallhalla82> can anyone tell me how to make a file in to an iso?
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> azhar27: mount needs sudo
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> vallhalla82: mkisofs
[21:14] <nucco> vallhalla82: use cd burning software, then write to "file/image"
[21:14] <true\false> Scunizi, probaly entirely irrelevant, but it is only a virtual machine
[21:14] <vallhalla82> !mkisofs
[21:14] <azhar27> ActionParsnip : how all of a sudden, i used to use flash drive before.
[21:15] <Scunizi> true\false: you're running a VM?
[21:15] <Scunizi> true\false: inside of windows? or what?
[21:15] <true\false> Scunizi, yes.. Inside of XP
[21:15] <Scunizi> true\false: using VMware?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> azhar27: no idea, i always manually mount stuff myself
[21:15] <true\false> Scunizi: Virtual box
[21:15] <viktorkAZ> hi
[21:16] <Blaze_Boy> I have a Problem : i have a CD-RW Samsung as secondary slave & ASUS CD-ROM as primary slave & western digital HDD as primary master  on a ubuntu-hardy box ,they where woking properly but now the  in my computer the CD-RW is CD-ROM and doesn't mount any CD ? Can any body help?
[21:16] <remi_> hi
[21:16] <nucco> azhar27: perhaps the flash drive is ntfs, and it's unclean?
[21:16] <jnjb> hello all
[21:16] <vallhalla82> !mkisofs
[21:16] <Scunizi> true\false: not sure on that one.. you definately won't have restricted drivers that will work inside the VM.. check on the #vbox channel and ask there how to fix video resolution .. that's a vbox issue..
[21:16] <kris> anybody     how to avoid restriced drivers ?
[21:16] <azhar27> nucco : yup, will mount it using sudo.
[21:17] <R_YoYo_R> kris, use open source ones
[21:17] <vallhalla82> ActionParsnip: is there a link where i can look up how to use mkisofs/
[21:17] <nucco> azhar27: you might need to mount it with windows to fix filesystem errors.
[21:17] <true\false> Scunizi: Is it? I assumed it was ubuntu..
[21:17] <viktorkAZ> hi i wonder if there is an mac 'finder' kind of gui application for linux that actually workds
[21:17] <Scunizi> kris: use nv or vesa or.. I forget the other opensource driver for ATI..
[21:17] <Blaze_Boy> i'm burning here can anyone help?
[21:17] <R_YoYo_R> Blaze_Boy, whats up?
[21:17] <jnjb> someone have make an autologin whitout dm
[21:17] <jnjb> ?
[21:17] <Blaze_Boy> I have a Problem : i have a CD-RW Samsung as secondary slave & ASUS CD-ROM as primary slave & western digital HDD as primary master  on a ubuntu-hardy box ,they where woking properly but now the  in my computer the CD-RW is CD-ROM and doesn't mount any CD ? Can any body help?
[21:17] <kris> R_YoYo_R:  how to deletete any restriced from the system >
[21:17] <Scunizi> true\false: no.. Vbox and VMWare both supply the os their own video driver and setup..
[21:17] <kris> R_YoYo_R:  ???
[21:17] <viktorkAZ> i mean to find any file or archive.. cause there ia appfinder but thats only to find applications not files
[21:18] <Blaze_Boy> R_YoYo_R: so ?
[21:18] <Scunizi> true\false: it's pretty generic. If vbox is setup right you should be able to go full screen and have no issues.
[21:18] <IntuitiveNipple> viktorkAZ: dpkg-query -S '*search-terms*'
[21:18] <true\false> Scunizi: Pratting around with some settings in ubuntu, I have a better resolution now, just not perfect
[21:18] <carandraug> kris, System > Administration > Hardware drivers (or whatever it is they call it these days) and uncheck the boxes
[21:18] <R_YoYo_R> Blaze_Boy, did you reboot (as dumb as that is)
[21:19] <vallhalla82> can anyone point me to a link where i can look up how to use mkisofs??
[21:19] <Scunizi> !mkisofs | vallhalla82
[21:19] <kris> anybody is there option to delete all restricetd drivers ?
[21:19] <vallhalla82> Scunizi: i tryed that and got nothing
[21:19] <Blaze_Boy> R_YoYo_R: yes many time and tried to take the data cable off and put it again but no use?
[21:19] <carandraug> vallhalla82, have you tried "man mkisofs"?
[21:19] <kris> carandraug:  i will try it
[21:19] <viktorkAZ> IntuitiveNipple: whats that? its a command to find files?
[21:19] <Scunizi> vallhalla82: :)  I just found that out :)
[21:20] <viktorkAZ> IntuitiveNipple: im actually looking for a gui application
[21:20] <vallhalla82> No manual entry for mkisofs
[21:20] <vallhalla82> See 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available.
[21:20] <arrrghhh> unop, i don't understand, is the new unbreakable-X causing all these problems?  i've been wrestling with it for a while now, and i'm still @ 640x480.  everything else breaks X.
[21:20] <R_YoYo_R> Blaze_Boy, is it listed in fstab?
[21:20] <IntuitiveNipple> kris: This should do it:  sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-restricted-modules-generic
[21:20] <Blaze_Boy> R_YoYo_R: wait a sec
[21:20] <unop> arrrghhh, did you specify the Driver as i810 ?
[21:20] <carandraug> vallhalla82, here is it http://linux.die.net/man/8/mkisofs
[21:21] <IntuitiveNipple> viktorkAZ: It's the way to locate which package contains specific files
[21:21] <vallhalla82> or can any one tell me how to make a file in to a iso?
[21:21] <vallhalla82> carandraug: ty
[21:21] <arrrghhh> unop, i tried i810 and intel.  it keeps breaking X.
[21:21] <M0RPH3U5> ciau
[21:21] <Scunizi> vallhalla82: k3b will do that with no problem.. also there may be a way to right mouse click
[21:21] <jeffd> What would be the easiest/best way to completely remove all iptables and netfilter kernel modules from being loaded on startup?
[21:21] <RUMMY> I have installed ubuntu 8.04. gnome 2.22.3 but on gnome official site saw that is gnome 2.24 release :-)) why my system didn't update?! I can think that have other packet too not lastest versions
[21:21] <unop> arrrghhh, what does 'breaking X' mean exactly?
[21:21] <vallhalla82> !k3b
[21:21] <kris> carandraug:  does it uninstall restricted in system ?
[21:21] <arrrghhh> unop, i get kicked to a terminal, gdm doesn't load.
[21:22] <Blaze_Boy> R_YoYo_R:is there any thing wrong in that?
[21:22] <Blaze_Boy> /dev/scd1                                  /media/cdrom0  udf,iso9660  user,noa$
[21:22] <Blaze_Boy> /dev/scd0                                  /media/cdrom1  udf,iso9660  user,noa$
[21:22] <vallhalla82> Scunizi: thank you
[21:22] <carandraug> vallhalla82, no problem. You can easily find the man page online if it's not in your system. Just google "man application_name" and it's probably the first link
[21:22] <Scunizi> RUMMY: just because gnome released a new version doesn't mean that you'll get the update.  Ubuntu will try to incorporate it into one of the future releases..
[21:22] <Scunizi> vallhalla82: np
[21:22] <R_YoYo_R> Blaze_Boy, have you tried different media?
[21:22] <vallhalla82> carandraug: thats good to know ty
[21:23] <unop> arrrghhh, log on at the terminal using your username and password etc - then type  startx  .. X will fail to load, but an error message will be spit out, you can decide what to do next after reading it
[21:23] <carandraug> kris, yes. It just doesn't uninstall ndiswrapper I think
[21:23] <Blaze_Boy> R_YoYo_R: the cd-rom is fune but CD-RW can't load any media
[21:23] <kris> IntuitiveNipple:  thx i will try it
[21:23] <Blaze_Boy> R_YoYo_R: and the lines are
[21:23] <arrrghhh> unop, ok.
[21:23] <Blaze_Boy> /dev/scd1                                  /media/cdrom0  udf,iso9660  user,noauto,exec,utf8       0  0
[21:23] <Blaze_Boy> /dev/scd0                                  /media/cdrom1  udf,iso9660  user,noauto,exec,utf8       0  0
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[21:25] <kris> anybody do i have to use restriected ones ? (drivers)
[21:25] <Blaze_Boy> R_YoYo_R: so?
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> how can i load firestarter without having the main gui in my task bar
[21:25] <Scunizi> unop: does start x still work?  I've always sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start to get x going.
[21:25] <R_YoYo_R> Blaze_Boy, well what is the error/
[21:25] <R_YoYo_R> ?
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> I want it to just sit in my systray
[21:25] <Blaze_Boy> R_YoYo_R: no it's the lines in the fstab
[21:25] <IntuitiveNipple> kris: no, of course not
[21:25] <R_YoYo_R> Blaze_Boy, i realize that is what you pasted ... i am asking for the error
[21:25] <Scunizi> kris: no you don't
[21:25] <ia> could you tell me please, does exist some way to tune compiz that any new window of any application will appear in maximization state?
[21:26] <unop> Scunizi, sure startx will always work as long as ubuntu uses the xorg packages from X.org
[21:26] <kris> IntuitiveNipple:  ok thx
[21:26] <harvey1> looking around, how can I allow a user to bind to <1024, without elevating other permissions?
[21:26] <kris> Scunizi: ok thx
[21:26] <unop> Scunizi, using the gdm initscript is not really the same as issuing startx
[21:26] <alphaaa> guys, have u come across good female developers in your work ?
[21:26] <afeijo> how to check cpu usage and what programs are causing high use?
[21:26] <carandraug> ia, there's a field for that in the ccsm. Not in Ubuntu right now but there is that option there
[21:26] <Scunizi> unop: ok.. nice to know.
[21:26] <Scunizi> kris np
[21:26] <R_YoYo_R> afeijo, top
[21:26] <unop> afeijo, use the gnome-system-monitor
[21:27] <Blaze_Boy> R_YoYo_R: if i put a cd in CD-RW nothing change ... like i didn't but anything at all and if  i double click any of the cd-rom icons it just give me can't load media
[21:27] <ia> carandraug: well, i have ccsm. could you tell me please, which exactly option do that?
[21:28] <afeijo> unop: I'm using it, nice graphics... it shows above 90% usage, but on the Process tab, no app above 1%
[21:28] <sceo> Running Hardy, compiz (custom with some CCSM settings).  Is there a way to "roll up" a window (windowshade?)
[21:28] <arrrghhh> unop, well now X isn't breaking, but it seems to load the vesa driver @ 640x480
[21:28] <unop> afeijo, do you have 90 processes all operating at 1% cputime?
[21:29] <afeijo> unop: no, all 0%, 1 at 1%
[21:29] <carandraug> ia, can't guide you there. I'm not on Ubuntu right now nor using compiz. I've been using Archlinux with fluxbox. But I've seen that before in there
[21:29] <Blaze_Boy> R_YoYo_R: i'm really going crazy
[21:29] <unop> arrrghhh, are you positive that you declared the driver right in the config file?
[21:29] <ia> carandraug: anyway, thanks. :-)
[21:29] <angusthefuzz> afeijo: go to view -> All processes in gnome-system-monitor
[21:30] <arrrghhh> unop, no, all i put was Driver   "i810"
[21:30] <R_YoYo_R> Blaze_Boy, did you at least try different media?
[21:30] <arrrghhh> i'll pastebin my current xorg.conf
[21:30] <unop> arrrghhh, where tho?
[21:30] <hagna> ok what is it about gnome that keeps gnome-terminal from showing a prompt?
[21:31] <Blaze_Boy> R_YoYo_R: yes i swear i tried 3 or 4 media but nothing , they can be read on the cd-rom but not the CD-RW and why it appear as a CD-ROM?
[21:31] <arrrghhh> unop, under "device" section.  keeps goin back to vesa.
[21:31] <unop> hagna, did you make any recent modifications to the ~/.bash* files?
[21:31] <arrrghhh> driver keeps goin back to vesa
[21:31] <hagna> unop: nah it's not just gnome-terminal it's firefox too
[21:31] <unop> arrrghhh, heh?  are you saving the file properly?
[21:31] <hagna> unop: no recent changes at all
[21:31] <unop> arrrghhh, are you editing the file as the superuser?
[21:32] <unop> hagna, what's firefox misbehaving at?
[21:32] <hagna> unop: who me?
[21:32] <kris> anybody  i need full command for removing restriced drivers no -- pure is working
[21:32] <arrrghhh> unop, yes, as root.
[21:32] <hagna> unop: it won't launch
[21:33] <R_YoYo_R> Blaze_Boy, sorry man .... can i log in to check it out? you have any remote access set up?
[21:33] <tigersuit>  /msg ubottu etiquette
[21:33] <afeijo> how heavy is NX ?
[21:33] <hagna> unop: I can ssh into my machine and run DISPLAY=:0 firefox
[21:33] <llisys> what ftp client would you recommend?
[21:33] <unop> hagna, ALT+F2 .. and type in.   killall firefox-bin
[21:33] <hagna> unop: and no firefox appears on screen
[21:33] <arrrghhh> afeijo, it's one of the lightest remote desktop protocols.  x11vnc is pretty good too.
[21:33] <regis> hello,I've a problem...i've lost some documents with openoffice writer...where should I look? is there an autosave feature?
[21:33] <afeijo> arrrghhh: vnc? hate that :)
[21:33] <carandraug> llisys, I've only used filezilla and it works fine. You can also nautilus for that purpose if you want
[21:33] <arrrghhh> afeijo, i said x11vnc.  not vnc.
[21:33] <unop> hagna, you probably have a hung firefox process in the background - try the killall command
[21:33] <R_YoYo_R> whats wrong with vnc?
[21:34] <afeijo> R_YoYo_R: very slow, and dont capture keys
[21:34] <gumpish> Running 7.10, Pidgin refuses to play sounds. Plays them when I click the Test button in the Sounds tab. Yes I have "Sounds when conversation has focus" checked, Enable sounds: Always, and the Play boxes checked under Sound Events. I have the volume turned up and have tried all the Method options available, even console beep. I have exited and relaunched. I have no other problems with sound on this machine.
[21:34] <asathoor> try this in a prompt: locate fileName
[21:34] <hagna> unop: also if I go to system > about me
[21:34] <arrrghhh> and vnc is good, just not the best for efficiency.
[21:34] <hagna> unop it hangs
[21:34] <IntuitiveNipple> hagna: Has the machines' network loop lo interface gone, or has /etc/hosts been edited or is it missing the machine's local name against <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[21:34] <hagna> no window pops up
[21:34] <carandraug> regis, when you open open office again, he should offer to recover the files that were open before
[21:34] <unop> hagna, have you logged out and logged back in?
[21:34] <hagna> IntuitiveNipple: I'll check
[21:34] <afeijo> oh, its possible to change my swap partition size?
[21:34] <danbhfive> gumpish: why arent you running 8.04?
[21:34] <hagna> unop: yes and I even created another user and that other user has the same gnome proble
[21:34] <unop> afeijo, sure
[21:35] <hagna> m
[21:35] <IntuitiveNipple> hagna: what you're describing sounds like what happens when the machine can't resolve it's own name
[21:35] <unop> hagna, hmm
[21:35] <afeijo> unop: how hard?
[21:35] <llisys> when using aircrack, it detects my wireless as an ndiswrapper driver, so i have no way of continuing forward, how can i work around this?
[21:35] <hagna> IntuitiveNipple: I'll check that
[21:35] <arrrghhh> unop, there's a piece under "device" that says "boardname    vesa"  is that screwing it up?
[21:35] <R_YoYo_R> afeijo, im always open to a speedier solution ... i remote in from work alot using a vista machine what woul syou recommend?
[21:35] <carandraug> afeijo, yes. But you need space on the HDD to expand it
[21:35] <regis> carandraug, mabe i didn't save the file...
[21:35] <afeijo> R_YoYo_R: NX
[21:35] <gumpish> danbhfive: because I'm using disk level encryption and haven't made the time to back up my files elsewhere for the upgrade
[21:35] <unop> afeijo, not very - all you need to do is use gparted to resize the swap partition
[21:35] <afeijo> carandraug: 200gb
[21:35] <hagna> IntuitiveNipple: hey <IP_ADDRESS> hagna-desktop
[21:35] <hagna> what's with 1.1
[21:35] <R_YoYo_R> afeijo, what client would i use on the windows side to connect?
[21:36] <unop> afeijo, alternatively, you can create an additional swap file (note i said file)
[21:36] <carandraug> afeijo, you can expand an existing partitions with cfdisk
[21:36] <afeijo> unop: gparted dont allow me, its disable, maybe because the part is in use?
[21:36] <regis> carandraug, but i wored a lot of time on it...so if there is an autosave feature...where should i look for
[21:36] <arrrghhh> R_YoYo_R, freenx is a really good solution, but i thought it was more difficult to setup.
[21:36] <IntuitiveNipple> hagna: it's the local machine's name (<IP_ADDRESS> is localhost)
[21:36] <afeijo> R_YoYo_R: nx client for windows :)
[21:36] <unop> arrrghhh, perhaps
[21:36] <afeijo> R_YoYo_R: I'm using right now
[21:36] <IntuitiveNipple> hagna: How about ifconfig lo - is it present?
[21:36] <chetnick> how to adjust GPU fan speed in ubuntu. (GeForce 8800 GTS). something like ntune or riva tuner for linux?
[21:36] <carandraug> afeijo, but I think it's usually good to have one partition in continuos blocks
[21:36] <hagna> yeah it's <IP_ADDRESS>, but in my hosts file it said hagna-desktop <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:37] <R_YoYo_R> nx in the repos?
[21:37] <Datz> Hello, when ubuntu start the GUI does not, and my monitor doesn't detect a signal.  I can log in via ssh however and everything seems to be working fine. So my question is, how can I get the GUI back??
[21:37] <IntuitiveNipple> hagna: That's fine, don't get confused :)
[21:37] <afeijo> R_YoYo_R: no, you need to download from nx site
[21:37] <hagna> IntuitiveNipple: I can ping localhost to
[21:37] <danbhfive> gumpish: well, I don't know anything about disk encryption, and how it prevents you from upgrading, BUT, if you are finding a bug in pidgin, it will not be fixed.  7.10 is no longer supported in that manner.
[21:37] <llisys> how can i impliment advanced encrytion with ubuntu?
[21:37] <hagna> IntuitiveNipple: ok I'll change it back
[21:37] <afeijo> carandraug: my coworker did shi* here, 5gb swap and only one part to hole system, I wanna reduce swap and add /home part
[21:37] <llisys> encryption*
[21:37] <R_YoYo_R> afeijo, and performance is much better than vnc?
[21:37] <afeijo> R_YoYo_R: a lot IMHO
[21:38] <gumpish> danbhfive: Sure it is. All releases get at least 18 months of support.
[21:38] <unop> hagna, did you make any major configuration changes recently?
[21:38] <hagna> unop: no just the latest updates
[21:38] <IntuitiveNipple> hagna: Have you checked resources using top ? is there a swap file? is it full? or, is the file-system containing /var full? (use df)
[21:38] <arrrghhh> ok i'm gonna try to reboot... hopefully this'll fix it.
[21:38] <unop> hagna, i assume, you've tried a reboot too?
[21:38] <carandraug> regis, oh! You exited without saving? I thought it somehow crashed and you eanted to recover the files.Well, in that case I don't know if it autosaves somewhere. Try #openoffice.org
[21:38] <hagna> unop, IntuitiveNipple also sudo DISPLAY=:0.0 /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-terminal
[21:38] <danbhfive> gumpish: that support entails only security fixes, and bug fixes involving data loss.  Sound not working isnt covered I don't think
[21:38] <Blaze_Boy> I have a Problem : i have a CD-RW Samsung as secondary slave & ASUS CD-ROM as primary slave & western digital HDD as primary master  on a ubuntu-hardy box ,they where woking properly but now the  in my computer the CD-RW is CD-ROM and doesn't mount any CD ? Can any body help?
[21:38] <hagna> unop that works
[21:38] <hagna> sudo DISPLAY=:0.0 /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-terminal and I get a shell with a prompt
[21:39] <gumpish> =/ well maybe a newer version is available in a backport repository
[21:39] <IntuitiveNipple> hagna: I've had a similar experience when the file-systems ran out of free space
[21:39] <kris> anybody : what is full command for delting restricted ones from system? i have unchecked box with restricted is it all ?
[21:39] <hagna> unop: yep I sure did
[21:39] <unop> hagna, what happens when you try and launch another gnome-terminal from this one? any errors
[21:39] <unop> ?
[21:39] <carandraug> afeijo, then, it's the same tool. cfdisk. Use it to reduce swap size and then increase /home
[21:39] <hagna> unop: when I launch another gnome-terminal as root from the one I launched as root over ssh?
[21:39] <R_YoYo_R> afeijo, you know a good place for documentation on this?
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: or delete old stuff you dont need
[21:40] <Datz> Hi, can anyone help me get my ubuntu GUI back?
[21:40] <hagna> unop nope no errors
[21:40] <IntuitiveNipple> hagna that 'sudo ... gnome-terminal' is for root isn't it? This sounds like a user-profile issue. Try creating a fresh profile and doing the test there
[21:40] <hagna> IntuitiveNipple: disk space looks fine 4% used
[21:40] <afeijo> carandraug: I do not have the /home partition :(
[21:40] <carandraug> kris, I think so. Do you use ndiswrapper?
[21:40] <afeijo> need to create it
[21:40] <afeijo> and repoint linux to access there! hard isnt?
[21:40] <unop> hagna, errm, no, launch a gnome-terminal from ssh (as a normal user)  -- then in the gnome-terminal that opens - try launching another instance, or firefox perhaps
[21:40] <hagna> IntuitiveNipple: by fresh profile do you mean new user>
[21:40] <Datz> Hi, can anyone help me get my ubuntu GUI back?
[21:40] <IntuitiveNipple> hagna: Yes
[21:41] <hagna> unop it won't launch as the normal user but it will launch as root
[21:41] <DistroJockey> afeijo: you can turn the swap off (sudo swapoff -a), resize the partition, then turn swap back on (sudo swapon -a)
[21:41] <kris> carandraug:  i even don't know what is ndiswrapper
[21:41] <afeijo> DistroJockey: cool!
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> Datz: what happens when you try to load it?
[21:41] <carandraug> afeijo, Then just reduce swap space and use the new free space to create or to add to partitions
[21:41] <hagna> lets see is killall X a good way to logout when the desktop is frozen?
[21:41] <unop> hagna, does this return anything - from your ssh session.  find ~ ! -user $USER
[21:41] <llisys> kris: ndiswrapper converts windows wireless drivers for ubuntu usage
[21:41] <Dream_Beam> hagna: no
[21:42] <Dream_Beam> Dream_Team: your part
[21:42] <Datz> ActionParsnip, the monitor stops detecting a signal, after I see a non graphical logon screen.
[21:42] <Dream_Team> >_>
[21:42] <hagna> what's a good way?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> Datz: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:42] <carandraug> kris, "sudo aptitude search ndiswrapper" do you get a list of packages? The column on the left has "i" or "p"?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> Datz: change your driver to vesa
[21:42] <Dream_Beam> hagna: ctrl alt backspace
[21:42] <IntuitiveNipple> hagna: If you're on the virtual console with the GUI the magic sys-request sequence Ctrl+Alt+SysRq+K will kill all processes on that VT and cause a GDM restart
[21:42] <unop> carandraug, useless use of sudo there
[21:42] <hagna> Dreah
[21:42] <hagna> Dream_Beam:  ahhh!
[21:42] <afeijo> carandraug: ok, I can change swap from 5gb to 1gb, than set that extra 4gb to home? later how to reduce from main system partition to the new home?
[21:43] <Datz> ActionParsnip, ok thanks I will try it, will you stay for a min while I try?
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> sure
[21:43] <carandraug> unop, I was not sure and that way I'll avoid someone asking what to do because it gave permission denied
[21:43] <dr_willis> Is it worth the effort to make a 4gb homd partition?
[21:43] <Elshar> Hey, does anyone know how to get firefox to properly handle ssh:// urls? I can't seem to get it to launch putty with ssh:// urls. :/
[21:43] <azhar27> exit
[21:44] <kris> carandraug:  there is no command like it in my system
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: depends if you need that much space
[21:44] <jeroen-> how to get complety rid of evolution?
[21:44] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip,  i got 8+gb of just wallpaper. :)
[21:44] <unop> carandraug, heh.  the primary principle of unix is to run as much without the need to get the super user to assist .. your command goes against the principle
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> jeroen-: sudo apt-get --purge evolution
[21:44] <afeijo> dr_willis: wallpaper yeah
[21:44] <hagna> IntuitiveNipple: yes that fresh profile idea was a good one
[21:44] <Datz> ActionParsnip, can I pm you?
[21:44] <Elshar> dr_willis, Isn't /home just symlinked to /usr/home?
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> jeroen-: then check in ~/ for .evolution folders
[21:44] <hagna> IntuitiveNipple: freshprofile user doesn't have the same problems
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> Datz: sure
[21:45] <dr_willis> Elshar,  err... ive NEVER seen that.. on any disrto
[21:45] <IntuitiveNipple> hagna: So probably an issue with the config files in the other one, either for the bash shell or the GUI
[21:45] <unop> carandraug, you don't need to use sudo with any apt front end - unless you are making changes to the APT database
[21:45] <Elshar> It's like that in FreeBSD. Only linux I use is Gentoo and Ubuntu, and fairly rarely honestly :P
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: i have 1 wallpaper
[21:45] <carandraug> afeijo, yes, you can do that. To take away from your "/" (main partition) you can do exactly the same thing. However, doing this kindof stuff will make your partitions a mess, with blocks spread all over the disk. I recommend to backup all the partitions (use rsync), create the partitions as you wish and then restore the system
[21:45] <arrrghhh> unop, so it's still starting in low-graphics mode i @ 640x480 using the vesa driver i assume.  http://pastebin.com/d699f3a89 - that's my xorg.conf, would you mind looking at it?
[21:46] <dr_willis> Elshar,  ya can do all sorts of tricks with  links and mounting things.  You could have a seperate partition for /usr/ and keep home there also if you wanted
[21:46] <hagna> unop yes that find commands returns lots of --all my file in home  find ~ ! -user $USER
[21:46] <jeroen-> ActionParsnip: no, everything to do with the evolution data server is still there and can't be removed without removing al of other apps -- also the /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-data-server-2.24 is still running
[21:46] <carandraug> unop, ok. Sorry. I'll keep that in mind
[21:46] <llisys> if i have a server offered to me to bounce through, how would i go about using it?
[21:46] <hagna> IntuitiveNipple: the GUI configs are which ones?
[21:46] <bobertdos> unop: I'm guilty of the same thing carandraug is. I used sudo with apt-cache up until a couple days ago! haha
[21:47] <angusthefuzz> llisys: what would you like to bounce? terminal session, IRC chat, entire internet connection, files?
[21:47] <unop> hagna,  ok.. that's not normal.   try this.   sudo find ~ ! -user $USER -exec chown $USER.$USER {} +
[21:47] <Scunizi> jeroen-: what will you use instead? online stuff like gmail or kmail. ?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> jeroen-: thats all i can reccomend really
[21:47] <Elshar> dr_willis, Why not just do that? Seems kind of wasteful to have a seperate partition for /home imo ;)
[21:47] <Suzanq> Can somebody help me?
[21:47] <jeroen-> Scunizi: thunderbird
[21:47] <carandraug> kris, can you run "ndiswrapper -v"? If it says something it means it's installed.
[21:47] <DasEi> is there a recommendation for a shoutcast player like winap in win ? something like shoutcast in webbrowser (genresearch)
[21:47] <afeijo> carandraug: that make me crepy, sound risky :)
[21:47] <jeroen-> and sunbird
[21:47] <dr_willis> Elshar,  putting /home in / isent on a sepreate partition either. I normally keep my /home on its own 500gb hd. :) since i use so much space
[21:48] <arrrghhh> Elshar, why is that "wasteful"?  some have a different partition for /etc, /usr, everything.
[21:48] <unop> arrrghhh, try and remove as many of the modes you aren't likely to use i.e. "800x600@60" and "640x480@60"  (same with Modelines)
[21:48] <dr_willis> Im not sure how you use  seperate partition for /etc/
[21:48] <arrrghhh> and wiping a system with separate /home's makes it much easier
[21:48] <bobertdos> Suzanq: with what?
[21:48] <arrrghhh> unop, ok thanks
[21:48] <Scunizi> Elshar: there are good reasons to have a separate /home partition.. espicially if you have to reinstall because you've been messing with the system experimenting etc.. that way you won't loose your data. dr_willis
[21:48] <dr_willis> keeping /home seperate is very handy
[21:48] <IntuitiveNipple> hagna: There's a few but I'd think the ~/.gconf/
[21:49] <Elshar> Why would you lose your data otherwise? You'd just mount whatever partition has /home and get the data off the same way, right?
[21:49] <arrrghhh> brb
[21:49] <kesi> hi all: how do I install a new screensaver in ubuntu and can I use one with a .scr extension?
[21:49] <hagna> unop, yeah could be perms issue
[21:49] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know why samba might keep "forgetting" the password?  almost every day i have to ssh to my fileserver machine and 'sudo smbpasswd <user>'
[21:50] <unop> hagna, i am willing to bet it is a permissions issue.
[21:50] <DistroJockey> afeijo: to change the / partition, you will need to have it not mounted. To do that you will need to use a livecd (with gparted) to resize it, and then maybe move the swap part and then add the /home part (backup first)
[21:50] <Elshar> Ah well, he left :)
[21:50] <carandraug> afeijo, resizing the partitions that much, will not only make the HDD a mess, is also risky. Probably much more risky than doing a backup and later restoring
[21:50] <afeijo> cool, my /home isnt big, just 543mb
[21:50] <hagna> unop: hm I don't own my bash_history
[21:50] <afeijo> carandraug: look, I have first pat 227gb, second part 5.76gb
[21:51] <afeijo> I will format second from swap to ext3
[21:51] <afeijo> cp home to that new part
[21:51] <Elshar> dr_willis, I guess it's a personal preference thing, really. Nothing really wrong with either approach.
[21:51] <afeijo> tell linux to use that as /home
[21:51] <afeijo> good enough?
[21:51] <unop> hagna, heh - I think this boils down to the fact you are using sudo with GUI apps (which you shouldn't be doing)
[21:51] <afeijo> than if I reduce main part 20gb, and add that to /home, no mess to my HD!
[21:51] <unop> hagna, anyway, how's the latter command progressing?
[21:51] <Spragie`> I have a problem with my mouse quiting after using x for a little while, only thing that i have found to fix it is a reboot, has anyone experienced this problem and if so what where some of the remedies (wired optical usb mouse)
[21:52] <hagna> unop: don't know if I want to change the non config stuff
[21:52] <Suzanq> I want to suck a big
[21:52] <Suzanq>
[21:52] <Suzanq>
[21:52] <Suzanq>
[21:52] <Suzanq>
[21:52] <Suzanq>
[21:52] <FloodBot1> Suzanq: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:52] <unop> hagna,  why not? they're all your files aren't they?
[21:52] <hagna> unop: yeah true I don't want to break git or something
[21:52] <unop> hagna, it's not normal to have files that you don't own in your homedir
[21:53] <hagna> unop yeah I agree it's probably from sudo python setup.py
[21:53] <arrrghhh> unop, so now ubuntu doesn't even seem to care what's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  I don't have any modes listed for 640x480, but it's still in the low-graphics mode using vesa... i don't get it.
[21:53] <Elshar> So has anyone successfully setup firefox to handle ssh urls?
[21:53] <R_YoYo_R> afeijo, ok i have nx installed ... no how do i start/configure?
[21:53] <carandraug> afeijo, afeijo I don't know how resizing can work. If your /home it's at the end of the disk, you take 20Gb from / to free space. That space may be in the begining of the disk. WHen you then add it to /home, physically, your /home is a mess
[21:53] <afeijo> R_YoYo_R: do you have it on both linux and windows?
[21:54] <unop> hagna, ok, well, sort out the permissions thing.  and the next time you need to run a GUI app as superuser, use gksudo instead, it sets the environment up properly
[21:54] <R_YoYo_R> afeijo, installed server on linux and client on dows
[21:54] <afeijo> R_YoYo_R: try connect to it thru machine name or ip
[21:54] <R_YoYo_R> afeijo, i assume i need to forward a port on my router
[21:54] <arrrghhh> Elshar, yea, goto about:config and filter on ssl.  enable all the ssl2 stuff.
[21:54] <unop> arrrghhh, verify which configuration file is being used -- have a look through the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:54] <afeijo> R_YoYo_R: oh yeah
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> how can i reminimise firestarter to the system tray without closing it?
[21:55] <R_YoYo_R> afeijo, what port does it use?
[21:55] <afeijo> carandraug: I will try rsync, thanks
[21:55]  * unop &
[21:55] <monoimoi> Hello
[21:56] <arrrghhh> unop, ah, it's using "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe"
[21:56] <monoimoi> IntuitiveNipple, :)
[21:56] <Elshar> arrrghhh, I did that. Now firefox doesn't do anything when I click on ssh urls. It doesn't even apparently launch the script I wrote to parse what firefox sends it.
[21:56] <DasEi>  ActionParsnip:leftclick mouse > choose whatever
[21:56] <Elshar> Although if I run the script from xterm or something it works fine :P
[21:56] <DasEi>  ActionParsnip:rightclick, sry
[21:56] <afeijo> R_YoYo_R: I think is 22
[21:56] <IntuitiveNipple> monoimoi: !! #disk-recovery
[21:56] <arrrghhh> Elshar, uhm that's strange.  do the about:config, filter ssl and screenshot it.
[21:57] <carandraug> afeijo, it's a command line application. It's will be most useful if you have an external drive to where you can backup. Also, I recommend to use it (instead of just copying) when moving /home from one partition to another. And also to do that using a live CD
[21:57] <kris> i love u all my ubuntu friends
[21:57] <arrrghhh> there's probably a config file you can pastebin, but i don't know what it is.
[21:57] <hagna> ok unop I'm running the chown command
[21:57] <hagna> sudo find ~ ! -user $USER -exec chown $USER.$USER {} +
[21:58] <Spragie`> linux is the pimp shiznittle
[21:58] <unop> arrrghhh, that's probably an indication that there's something wrong with the original xorg.conf file - either way, move the .failsafe out of the way and try reloading X
[21:58] <hagna> unop find: /home/hagna/.gvfs: Permission denied
[21:58] <arrrghhh> unop, ok.
[21:58] <carandraug> afeijo, use this command "rsync -acvSHx --exclude lost+found /what_you_want_to_backup /where_you _want_to_backup"
[21:58] <unop> hagna, it will fail on all gvfs directories - that's normal
[21:59] <AlexC> Can someone please help me. I am trying to install Ubuntu 8.04 on a Dell Poweredge SC1430. The first part of the boot where the colored progress slider moves back and forth proceeds, then instead of going to the progress bar that moves from left to right, it goes to an (initramfs) prompt. The file casper.log ends with 'Unable to find a medium containing a live filesystem'. I have re-downloaded and re-recorded (at speed=8) the ubuntu
[21:59] <hagna> unop ok I did it
[21:59] <AlexC> I What can I try next?
[21:59] <SlimeyPete> AlexC: first thing to do is try the Alternate CD
[21:59] <IntuitiveNipple> AlexC: If it's a server, have you tried using the server installation image?
[21:59] <SlimeyPete> oyu may have a livecd-related problem
[21:59] <AlexC> i JUST DID THAT.
[21:59] <AlexC> sORRY
[21:59] <SlimeyPete> hehe, capslock is an evil key
[22:00] <AlexC> Cap lock was an accident
[22:00] <unop> hagna, ok, close all user processes - log out and log back in - cross your fingers and try opening something.
[22:00] <bdbdbd> anyone know how to configure SDL for Ubuntu?
[22:00] <hagna> unop: maybe this is a good time to switch to xfce
[22:00] <AlexC> Server installation image?
[22:00] <IntuitiveNipple> AlexC: I've been dealing with some similar bugs recently, but not seen one for a few months. Have you found a Launchpad bug report that matches it?
[22:00] <AlexC> Sounds like a plan
[22:00] <SlimeyPete> yeah, there's an ubuntu-server CD too
[22:00] <hagna> unop I did that and I get a grey box in the upper right hand corner
[22:00] <hagna> hmmm
[22:00] <AlexC> Do you have reason to believe that will be different
[22:00] <SlimeyPete> basically the same as alternate though, except it installs less stuff by default
[22:00] <hagna> unop well 'll try reboot
[22:00] <SlimeyPete> might be worth a try, at least
[22:00] <VilasBoas> Hy i need to connect to a pda with windows mobile but my ubuntu doesn't find my pda can anyone help me?
[22:01] <unop> hagna, ok, well, i have to leave now - i hope it all works out
[22:01] <andril_> is there a system back up program?
[22:01] <unop> unop &
[22:01] <R_YoYo_R> afeijo, ok i forwarded the port ... and tried to connect and it does attempt to connect but then fails
[22:01] <geodome> /j #ubuntu-offtopics
[22:01] <AlexC> Server CD OK
[22:01] <bdbdbd> IntuitiveNipple: any idea what to do?  even the version you gave me reports SDL_INIT_VIDEO problems
[22:01] <AlexC> OK I will try ity
[22:01] <bdbdbd> someone recommend using it under 'startx' but I have hardy heron -- it think gnome -- running
[22:01] <R_YoYo_R> afeijo, it even authenticates\
[22:01] <melter> is help.ubuntu.com ever going to get a search engine?
[22:02] <afeijo> R_YoYo_R: what is your NX client config? on Desktop, I have: Unix Gnome
[22:02] <kris> anybody : how much of memory should i have on hdd to have ubuntu working properly?
[22:02] <R_YoYo_R> afeijo, thats what I am using ... it comes so close \
[22:02] <crazyboy1108> hi bros
[22:02] <argento> what package do i have to install to have support on kde with gnome apps?
[22:02] <crazyboy1108> me have a question too
[22:03] <bobertdos> kris: It depends on how much you anticipate needing. I run on 20 gigs of space.
[22:03] <Scunizi> argento: if you install any gnome program apt will pull in all the dependancies needed to run it.
[22:03] <compengi> crazyboy1108, was that a question? :D
[22:03] <SlimeyPete> argento: there are lots of packages. Apt/synaptic should install them for you if they are necessary (unless you're compiling from source in which case it's best to ask the devlopers/mailing list)
[22:03] <crazyboy1108> i want ti install ubuntu on my laptop which already has vista installed
[22:03] <carandraug> !gps > carandraug
[22:03] <IntuitiveNipple> bdbdbd: It sounds like you've not got the prerequisites that SDL expects. I don't use it so I can't help there
[22:03] <kris> bobertdos:  is it enough for you ? i have les and it is not
[22:03] <compengi> carandraug, so what stops you from doing that?
[22:03] <afeijo> R_YoYo_R: well, I didnt had to do much, my employee installed on ubuntu, I installed on my machine, set those fields, and it connects. I type my password on small window on my Vista, then it open full screen the Ubuntu screen
[22:04] <Spragie`> how is vista? i've never used it
[22:04] <bobertdos> kris: Well, I store most of my large stuff on my NTFS partitions, so it's enough for me. If you need something larger, I'd say maybe 30-50.
[22:04] <carandraug> compengi, :s eeehhhrr... What do you mean?
[22:04] <crazyboy1108> it sucks
[22:04] <afeijo> Spragie: similar to XP, with more fluffy stuff. I cant wait to install ubuntu
[22:04] <crazyboy1108> anyway i was just wondering
[22:05] <Spragie`> yeah figures
[22:05] <Spragie`> more eye candy
[22:05] <crazyboy1108> i guess my drive is an NTFS format
[22:05] <Spragie`> idk what i did but my mouse hasnt failed since my last reboot :D
[22:05] <bobertdos> andril_: What kind of backup are you wanting to do?
[22:05]  * Spragie` crosses fingers
[22:05] <Charitwo> why doesn't CTRL # work for switching tabs in firefox like it does in windows
[22:06] <carandraug> what happened to ubottu? Anyone knows?
[22:06] <compengi> carandraug, sorry, i meant crazyboy1108
[22:06] <hagna> unop: no dice same problems
[22:06] <woli> i still cannot rename my hard drive properly..
[22:06] <hagna> unop: that is gnome doesn't like to launch things
[22:06] <carandraug> compengi, oh, ok. No problem
[22:06] <bobertdos> carandraug: He's not here. ubottu has been a sick bot the past few days :D
[22:06] <andril_> bobertos: i need a system save type or quick restore
[22:06] <kris> bobertdos:   i will think about 20 like you
[22:06] <VilasBoas> Hy i have a GPs with Windows mobile but i can't connect to it with my ubuntu 8.04
[22:06] <crazyboy1108> hey compengi
[22:06] <compengi> crazyboy1108, in any ways ubuntu needs an ext formated hardrive
[22:06] <crazyboy1108> yeah i guessed
[22:06] <woli> unop: even at boot, ubuntu was checking the hard drives and when it was cheking the main one, it had Hard_Drive as name...
[22:07] <carandraug> bobertdos, damn. I need the bot. Is he available somewhere else? I want to take a look at his mind
[22:07] <jack_distortion> hi all
[22:07] <rebel_kid> how can i turn off the screen magnifier without rebooting
[22:07] <ARCKEDA> Heya.
[22:07] <crazyboy1108> anyone has any idea if there fedora or redhat would install on an NTFS?
[22:07] <bobertdos> carandraug: Hopefully they'll put ubot3 up for a while.
[22:08] <ARCKEDA> jack_distortion that is.
[22:08] <DasEi> carandraug: see   !brain
[22:08] <DasEi> !brain
[22:08] <jack_distortion> has anyone also problems with tablet/wacdump in intrepid alpha 5 ?
[22:08] <compengi> carandraug, if you want to ask the bot something, try /msg ubottu <factoid> but the bot seems not to be here
[22:08] <carandraug> DasEi, I would've done that. The problem is that the bot is not around
[22:08] <ARCKEDA> jack_distortion: Your in the wrong room.
[22:08] <rebel_kid> anyone know how to turn the magnifier off without rebooting
[22:08] <ARCKEDA> #ubuntu+1 is where you want to be.
[22:08] <jack_distortion> sorry why
[22:08] <jack_distortion> what is that
[22:08] <Kanoth> Hi i need some help installing my Intel graphic driver
[22:09] <compengi> crazyboy1108, maybe ask in #fedora?
[22:09] <DasEi> carandraug: think i have it somewhere, want a paste ? bot-subbing..
[22:09] <ompaul> jack_distortion, intrepid is in #ubuntu+1 cos it is the next version channel this is for stable ;-)
[22:09] <jack_distortion> ah k
[22:09] <ARCKEDA> Kanoth: Can you not just install it with restricited driver manager?
[22:09] <jack_distortion> sry
[22:09] <jack_distortion> cu
[22:09] <Daisuke_Ido> ARCKEDA: the intel drivers shouldn't be restricted anyway
[22:09] <ARCKEDA> Daisuke_Ido: They aren't?  I just thought so because nivida was.
[22:09] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[22:10] <Scunizi> Kanoth: how do you know it isn't loaded as default?
[22:10] <bobertdos> andril_: You could use partimage to create a drive image. That's one of the best ways to restore the total state of your system.
[22:10] <arrrghhh> unop, so it recreates the xorg.conf.failsafe evidently.  this is really getting frustrating, usually the onboard cards are easy easy to setup haha
[22:10] <crazyboy1108> thanks compengi
[22:10] <geodome> how do i set ubuntu to auto-mount
[22:10] <Daisuke_Ido> intel's drivers are open and free
[22:10] <ARCKEDA> I see.
[22:10] <stevan_> Hello - I'm a newbie to IRC.  I have some Ubuntu questions
[22:10] <kane77> ARCKEDA, no, intel needs no restricted drivers
[22:10] <DasEi> geodome: by fstab
[22:10] <carandraug> DasEi, no need. I've foud his brain on google. http://jussi01.com/web/factoids.cgi
[22:10] <bobertdos> stevan_: ask away :D
[22:10] <andril_> bobertos: thanks
[22:10] <Kanoth> ya that know that
[22:11] <Spragie`> whats a good irc client for linux ?
[22:11] <hagna> IntuitiveNipple: isn't there some X error log /var/log/messages says nothing about this irregular behavior
[22:11] <hagna> Spragie: irssi
[22:11] <stevan_> Thank you - I did a clean install of the most recent Ubuntu onto a virgin hard drive.  Everything worked fine except, and it's a big "except" my Ubuntu PC cannot see my Windows PCs and vice versa
[22:12] <Spragie`> s'what im using
[22:12] <stevan_> Samba is in and running
[22:12] <hagna> Spragie: hehe
[22:12] <DiabloHorn> hello :)
[22:12] <stevan_> And I edited the config  file to set workgroup = to the name of my home network
[22:12] <hagna> Spragie: I keep coming back to it
[22:12] <wereHamster> how can I list which files git-core has installed?
[22:12] <bobertdos> stevan_: What's your workgroup name on the Windows side?
[22:12] <hagna> Spragie: I didn't like pidgin
[22:12] <Spragie`> hagna: its good cept for like if you want to list channels on a server or sottin ;]
[22:12] <arrrghhh> Daisuke_Ido, well i can't get the intel drivers to load.  keeps going back to vesa.
[22:12] <stevan_> HOME - all in caps
[22:12] <DasEi> Spragie: pidgin or xchat for starting up
[22:12] <Spragie`> i havn't tried pidgin i think i tried xchat and it was just all funked up
[22:13] <stevan_> I have multiple windows machines, they can all see each other fine
[22:13] <Spragie`> DasEi: starting up w/ linux or ubuntu ?
[22:13] <Spragie`> irc or linux * ;x
[22:13] <bobertdos> stevan_: By default, Samba is set to MSHOME. So change one of the two sides and restart Samba.
[22:13] <DasEi> Spragie: with irc
[22:13] <Scunizi> Spragie: there are 2 xchats.. xchat and xchat-gnome.. the first is better than the second.
[22:13] <Spragie`> oh irc is simple :D
[22:13] <afeijo> where can I edit to auto mount a part?
[22:13] <bruenig> irssi is better than xchat
[22:14] <MrD1> spag
[22:14] <DasEi> theme for #freenode, huh ?
[22:14] <DiabloHorn> hello I have saves my iptables script but after adding it in /etc/network/interfaces like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo tells me, they don't auto-start when I boot my machine
[22:14] <stevan_> bobertdos: I did edit smb.conf and it now says workgroup = HOME
[22:14] <DiabloHorn> does anyone know what I am doing wrong
[22:15] <arrrghhh> can someone tell me what is wrong with this xorg.conf?
[22:15] <carandraug> afeijo, /etc/fstab
[22:15] <radamMIRC> does anyone know if there is a more active powerpc ubuntu channel, or does most of that talk just happen here?
[22:15] <bobertdos> stevan_: Okay, now in a terminal: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[22:15] <Scunizi> arrrghhh: where is it?
[22:15] <stevan_> bobertdos: and I restarted the Ubuntu machine
[22:15] <compengi> radamMIRC, support goes here, offtopic goes in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:15] <arrrghhh> Scunizi, http://pastebin.com/d11a3f203
[22:15] <bobertdos> stevan_: oh, okay, and still no luck?
[22:15] <radamMIRC> compengi, thx
[22:16] <stevan_> bobertdos: correct.
[22:16] <jerndoe_> can anyone point to a guide for connecting to another ubuntu folder (lige window share?)
[22:16] <compengi> radamMIRC, my pleasure
[22:16] <stevan_> bobertdos: the Ubuntu machine CAN see some of the windows machines if I use Firefox and enter the windows machine's IP address
[22:17] <tyberion> is there anyone here familiar with script language in bash?!
[22:17] <compengi> tyberion, try to be more specific
[22:17] <llisys> which vnc client would be more beneficial?
[22:17] <Scunizi> arrrghhh: looks ok.. but you might want to change "Configured Video Device" to Intel or something else.. not sure if it will make a difference but if the sys reads that line first it might ignore the remaining bits
[22:17] <Spragie> hmmm
[22:17] <Spragie> two xchats ?
[22:17] <smokewon> Hey does anyone here know how to convert an avi file into a flv file on ubuntu?
[22:18] <bobertdos> stevan_: You may want to run the network setup wizard on the windows side to make sure your workgroup is configured correctly. You may also want to be sure that WINS is enabled in smb.conf.
[22:18] <comicinker> smokewon: try avidemux for a nice gui
[22:18] <smokewon> ty
[22:18] <Kanoth> were do i find the xorg.conf file
[22:18] <DasEi>  jerndoe_: you got two pcs want to connect ?
[22:18] <compengi> !ping
[22:18] <tyberion> compengi: whats the comparison whether I entered 2 paramters or not, $1 would be first.. $2 would be 2nd.. and now I am trying to get a if [ $2 != null/NIL/0...what is  it???
[22:19] <stevan_> bobertdos: forgive my ignorance here but is WINS in my windows machines?  In years of working with Windows/Mac networks I don't remember ever having to tweak that
[22:19] <jerndoe_> DasEi: yes
[22:19] <kesi> How do I install new screensavers in HH?
[22:19] <tyberion> Kanoth: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:20] <jerndoe_> DasEi: running xubuntu on my ps3 and want to access files on a laptop ubuntu (eg. hear music one of them thats stored on the other
[22:20] <arrrghhh> k brb
[22:20] <SlimeyPete> jerndoe_: how well does it run on ps3?
[22:20] <comicinker> how do I leave out all the status messages in a console irc client?
[22:20] <DasEi>  jerndoe_: I see, conneted by patch or (better)  switch ?
[22:20] <compengi> llisys, Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose,  depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the  channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[22:21] <chubs> !nfs | jerndoe_
[22:21] <compengi> chubs, bot is down
[22:21] <DiabloHorn> nm fix it :) thx
[22:21] <chubs> aww
[22:21] <jerndoe_> SlimeyPete: well... it runs,  but cant get wireless to work :-(
[22:21] <SlimeyPete> jerndoe_: ah
[22:21] <stevan_> bobertdos: OOps, I just remembered that smb.conf is samba config in Ubuntu.
[22:21] <SlimeyPete> just wondered. Might buy myself a "new" console once they come down to around the 100-150 mark.
[22:21] <compengi> comicinker, that's senseless question. depending on each client
[22:21] <bobertdos> stevan_: hahaha
[22:21] <tyberion> compengi: whats comparison "if $2 !=" on parameters?!
[22:22] <jerndoe_> SlimeyPete: but its the only way to get my videos on my tv (my laptop has only hdmi)
[22:22] <SlimeyPete> I guess that might be a while yet though
[22:22] <DasEi>  jerndoe_: I see, conneted by patch or (better)  switch ?
[22:22] <stevan_> bobertdos: I opened smb.con and it reads "wins support = no"
[22:22] <SlimeyPete> jerndoe_: no hdmi on the TV?
[22:22] <hagna> IntuitiveNipple: could I just copy .gconf from one user to another?
[22:22] <jerndoe_> DasEi: switch
[22:22] <jerndoe_> DasEi: ordinary LAN
[22:22] <compengi> tyberion, i'm not a bash scripter. i meant to post a more specific question of what's your problem to the channel so someone could help
[22:22] <bobertdos> stevan_: enable that, and also, check your workgroup again :)
[22:23] <jerndoe_> SlimeyPete: not yet....
[22:23] <SlimeyPete> ah :)
[22:23] <DasEi>  jerndoe_: you now the ip's of the pc's ?
[22:23] <IntuitiveNipple> hagna: you could try if you're copying the primary user to the new fresh one as a test, but I wouldn't recommend copying over the primary user's gconf !!
[22:23] <jerndoe_> DasEi: yes
[22:23] <llisys> could i have some help using evolution please :)
[22:23] <stevan_> bobertdos: what about wins server and wins proxy?
[22:23] <hse-hoens> I have an md array set up to be my /home partition, but whenever I boot to ubuntu the partition is not mounted, even though it has a line in the mtab file, does anyone know why this would happen?
[22:23] <hagna> IntuitiveNipple: hmm lets see I could diff everything
[22:23] <bobertdos> stevan_: yeah, just for good measure, I suppose
[22:24] <compengi> llisys, the best way to do this is to ask in #gnome channel. because it's a gnome project
[22:24] <chubs> hse-hoens, mtab only lists mounted files
[22:24] <chubs> s/files/partitions
[22:25] <llisys> thanks
[22:25] <Charitwo> OK, something is amiss. Ubuntu asked me to upgrade FireFox to 3.0.2 today and when the upgrade was finished, it fails to load pages and gives me this error: http://prishels.net/firefoxerror.png
[22:25] <hse-hoens> mean fstab, sry
[22:25] <chubs> hse-hoens, did you include the automount switch?
[22:25] <jerndoe_> DasEi: saw somebody mention nfs.. I'm new to ubuntu, so I need some elaboration
[22:25] <hse-hoens> let me check, it's in the other room atm
[22:25] <Kanoth> I downloaded xf86-video-intel-2.4.2.tar.gz from http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/
[22:26] <Kanoth> how do i go about installing it
[22:26] <ocu42> qualcuno riesce a far funzionare report builder in opnoffice  2.3 ... grazie
[22:26] <Tarantulafudge> is there a way to install kubuntu-desktop without destroying the bootloader and gdm?
[22:26] <compengi> Kanoth, isn't there a guide on that page?
[22:26] <MusicIsEverythin> Hey guys...  Ive been running hardy for a week, but need some help with my video card.
[22:26] <DasEi>  jerndoe_: places > network> add networkfolder
[22:27] <MusicIsEverythin> I have video out on the card, but the resolution on the TV sucks...  What can I do to fix it?
[22:27] <vallhalla82> can any one suggest a good p2p file sharing program
[22:27] <Charitwo> any ideas?
[22:27] <Tarantulafudge> vallhalla82: azureus ?
[22:27] <stevan_> bobertdos: I made the edit, confirmed it by reopening the smb.cfg file, and then entered "sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart" to restart Samba.  That produced messages in Terminal saying "sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart" then "start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 5089: No such process" and then "* Starting Samba daemons "  All as they should be?
[22:27] <compengi> vallhalla82, a text mode or gui?
[22:28] <arrrghhh> still no workie.  funny is, the failsafe xorg file is set to 800x600 under modes, but it always goes to 640x480.
[22:28] <EatShrooms> vallhalla82: torrents are better I think
[22:28] <vallhalla82> Tarantulafudge: i will look it up thank you
[22:28] <EatShrooms> vallhalla82: get on a private tracker
[22:28] <jerndoe_> DasEI: I cant see "add network folder"
[22:28] <compengi> vallhalla82, a good one could be rtorrent
[22:28] <vallhalla82> EatShrooms: where can i find out about thoes?
[22:28] <bruenig> rtorrent is the best for sure
[22:28] <compengi> :)
[22:28] <arrrghhh> so can someone look at this xorg.conf?  ubuntu refuses to use it.  http://pastebin.com/d1e40add9
[22:29] <EatShrooms> vallhalla82: google maybe. I was on a private tracker called what.cd, it's pretty much for only music though. Very quality tracker if you get in
[22:29] <MusicIsEverythin> anyone have experience with TV out and Ubuntu?
[22:29] <kris> anybody: do i need any anty vir program on ubuntu ?
[22:30] <DasEi>  jerndoe_: ok, so on the station that should serv, install: nfs-common nfs-kernel-server portmap
[22:30] <R_YoYo_R> afeijo, you still her
[22:30] <arrrghhh> !antiviurs | kris
[22:30] <arrrghhh> der
[22:30] <arrrghhh> !antivirus | kris
[22:30] <DasEi> bot is down
[22:30] <R_YoYo_R> afeijo, i got it to work .... so much better than vnc dude!!!
[22:30] <arrrghhh> or not.  kris, no you don't need antivirus.
[22:31] <EatShrooms> kris: ubuntu is pretty secure as it is
[22:31] <arrrghhh> R_YoYo_R, yea, lots faster.  way more efficient on bandwidth too.
[22:31] <kris> arrrghhh:  ok thx
[22:31] <EatShrooms> kris: it's not like windows ;)
[22:31] <afallenhope> kris, you can use clamav
[22:31] <kris> EatShrooms:  i know  :)
[22:31] <Tarantulafudge> EatShrooms: is what.cd invite based?
[22:31] <kris> afallenhope:  should I ?
[22:31] <R_YoYo_R> arrrghhh, im suprised this is the first i have heard of it .... its like im not even remoted in
[22:31] <kris> afallenhope:  what is it?
[22:31] <ocu42> qualcuno riesce a far funzionare report builder in opnoffice  2.3 ... grazie
[22:31] <afallenhope> kris, sudo apt-get install clamav clamtk
[22:31] <kris> afallenhope:  ok
[22:31] <Kanoth> any one with experiance with intel and linux PM me
[22:31] <arrrghhh> kris, but only really if you're sharing files/mailserver (if the machine is interacting with windows machines)
[22:32] <radinsky> net
[22:32] <DasEi> kris: on hardy no prob to install antivir ,but DO NOT install dazuko (hardy has kernel modul for that and others)
[22:32] <kris> arrrghhh:  internet also?
[22:32] <jerndoe_> DasEi: I should install this on the one with the files i want to reach? (the laptop is where the files is, the ps3 is the "client" where I want to acces the files)
[22:32] <afallenhope> kris, it's simply an antivirus. I use it.. however, I have a file server and mail server. Soo.. that's one main reason as to why I use it. Linux only has to worry about rootkits that's pretty much it.
[22:32] <EatShrooms> Tarantulafudge: yes unforunately. They make you wait in their irc channels for a while until you get invited
[22:32] <geodome> hi. what is the options used for mounting a fat32 in /etc/fstab such that any user can read/write it?
[22:32] <afallenhope> kris, and you don't even have to worry about that if you don't download a lot of stuff.
[22:32] <kris> afallenhope:  i think i dont need it then
[22:32] <compengi> Kanoth, the best support you could get is in this channel. no one would pm because all here could learn from others issues
[22:33] <kris> afallenhope:  ok
[22:33] <afallenhope> kris, then you're fine. just know what you're installing/compilling.
[22:33] <kris> afallenhope:  not allways know u know
[22:33] <jerndoe_> DasEi: hey.. I see what you mean.... install on the server...done
[22:33] <arrrghhh> kris, by default there's no open ports in ubuntu.  unless you're running a server, you don't need a firewall.  i recommend firestarter if you want to configure incoming ports.
[22:33] <DasEi>  jerndoe_: on the lap them, if you want to access it from the playst.
[22:33] <opt1k> how do i close my vnc ports?
[22:33] <compengi> Kanoth, and as i said lately you should check the website from where you downloaded your driver from to how to install it
[22:33] <llisys> is an equivelent of PuTTY built into ubuntu?
[22:34] <hse-hoens> chubs: it has the same mount options as my / option
[22:34] <DasEi>  jerndoe_: 3 packets installed ?
[22:34] <opt1k> actually, how do i close ports in general?
[22:34] <bruenig> ilb_25: ssh
[22:34] <bruenig> llisys: ssh
[22:34] <compengi> llisys, you don't need putty over linux
[22:34] <kris> arrrghhh:  or anybody: is gadu port secure? polish verion of program is insecure but i use pidgin to that protocol.
[22:34] <compengi> llisys, it's build in, you just type commands like "ssh ip" or "telnet ip" etc,,
[22:34] <stevan_> bobertdos: I made the edit, confirmed it by reopening the smb.cfg file, and then entered "sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart" to restart Samba.  That produced messages in Terminal saying "sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart" then "start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 5089: No such process" and then "* Starting Samba daemons "  All as they should be?
[22:34] <jerndoe_> DasEi: yes, says already newest installed
[22:34] <bruenig> it isn't built in, you have to install ssh or telnet
[22:34] <arrrghhh> opt1k, use firestarter for a gui firewall config.  by default no incoming ports are open.
[22:35] <chubs> hse-hoens, not sure then
[22:35] <opt1k> arrrghhh ty
[22:35] <arrrghhh> np
[22:35] <hse-hoens> i'll add auto, it can't hurt i gues
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[22:35] <DasEi>  jerndoe_: on the client (playst), install : nfs-common portmap
[22:35] <serg_> Hello all people !!
[22:35] <compengi> bruenig, how come i got them
[22:35] <kris> ok ok ok
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> how can i add a srvice to the default runlevel
[22:35] <arrrghhh> unop, so i don't know what to do at this point.  http://pastebin.com/d1e40add9 is my current xorg.conf, but it's still loading a xorg.conf.failsafe.
[22:35] <serg_> Ubuntu is only OS !
[22:35] <bruenig> compengi: because you installed them
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> ive seen rc-update
[22:35] <chubs> serg_, there are a few others
[22:35] <kris> serg_: i agree with u :)
[22:35] <compengi> bruenig, surely not ;)
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> but i cant seem to get the right syntax
[22:35] <bruenig> I assure you they are not built into the kernel
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> !startup
[22:36] <serg_> chubs, dunno which are ...
[22:36] <llisys> thank you
[22:36] <compengi> bruenig, ubuntu starts to ship them
[22:36] <serg_> krim_, Russian Federation use only Ubuntu and Mandriva
[22:36] <xim_> can someone remind me the scandisk equivalent for linux?
[22:36] <bruenig> ubuntu installed them by default, however, it is not built in to linux by any means
[22:36] <arrrghhh> xim_, fsck
[22:36] <xim_> arrrghhh: right thx
[22:37] <hagna> IntuitiveNipple so I started to kill processes and after killing gnome-settings-daemon and esd -nobeeps gnome started responding
[22:37] <IntuitiveNipple> hagna: that seems to confirm the settings issue... is the main profile working now?
[22:37] <kris> anybody: firefox is closing its window. why is it so? i have new verion of it
[22:37] <hagna> IntuitiveNipple: yeah it is working, even after I reboot
[22:38] <hagna> IntuitiveNipple: urgh I wanted to dup the bug
[22:38] <kris> ??
[22:38] <compengi> kris, define "closing it's window"
[22:38]  * serg_ have troubles with GDM: fonts in the password/user prompt is too huge and some other fonts are not sanely big =(
[22:39] <kris> compengi:  it ends
[22:39] <xim_> is there a command to see what device is connected to a given mount point?
[22:39] <DasEi>  jerndoe_: installed the two ? give me ip's of play and lappy
[22:39] <hagna> xim_: mount
[22:39] <kris> compengi: it stops suddenly
[22:39] <KrimZon> kris: what exactly is happening? what happens before it closes?
[22:39] <compengi> kris, under what circumstances
[22:39] <Hexus> Ive been trying for a couple of days to get a old ISA sound card working on ubuntu.
[22:40] <DasEi> Hexus: which one ?
[22:40] <kris> KrimZon:  compengi: no circumtances particular i just go on a web and it ends......
[22:40] <IntuitiveNipple> hagna: temporary glitch then, fortunately :)
[22:40] <compengi> kris, any specific website
[22:40] <compengi> ?
[22:40] <jerndoe_> DasEi: yes, lap=<IP_ADDRESS> ps3=<IP_ADDRESS>
[22:40] <kris> compengi:  should I put link here ?
[22:40] <hagna> IntuitiveNipple: nope same problem
[22:41] <kris> compengi:  ???????
[22:41] <compengi> kris, depending on what kind of link :D
[22:41] <Hexus> dasei: I tried lspci and it said it was VT82c68
[22:41] <kris> compengi:  try it www.nasza-klasa.pl
[22:41] <hagna> IntuitiveNipple: I mean I clicked System > aboutme and it behaves the same
[22:41] <compengi> kris, loads nicely
[22:41] <hagna> I thought it was gone because I was able to laucnh terminal
[22:42] <compengi> kris, do you have flash plugin loaded?
[22:42] <kris> compengi:  so? what is problem about? firefox? the earlier verion worked fine
[22:42] <kris> compengi: i dont remember now
[22:42] <DasEi> Hexus: alright, little busy right now, but that should work...brb
[22:42] <hagna> IntuitiveNipple: hey! It's esd
[22:42] <compengi> kris, try to start it from terminal and see what it would end up with
[22:42] <[Solars]> how much room should I 'save' for ubunto on a new install
[22:42] <hagna> esd is hanging gnome
[22:42] <Hexus> so ive been trying to use the snd-vi82xx driver with ALSA modules
[22:42] <hagna> wow
[22:42] <kris> compengi: ok
[22:42] <[Solars]> I have a ~1G sata
[22:42] <kris> compengi:  what is the command?
[22:42] <compengi> [Solars], you mean hard space?
[22:43] <[Solars]> compengi yes
[22:43] <compengi> kris, in terminal>firefox
[22:43] <compengi> [Solars], minimal 2G
[22:43] <[Solars]> compengi how much does an avg user use?
[22:43] <[Solars]> or the avg install
[22:43] <xim_> ive got this one folder on an ntfs partition and when i try to open it in the browser it crashes, what could cause that, how can i fix it?  it's just full of videos
[22:43] <compengi> [Solars], depending on the user's needs :D
[22:44] <[Solars]> basically I am setting up my raid partitions of 4 - sata drives .. I have the option to devide the raid over the 4 drives into 2 raids over the 4 drives
[22:44] <xim_> and it only happens in the 'view as icon mode'
[22:44] <DasEi>  jerndoe_: sudo gedit /etc/exports         (on the laptop)
[22:44] <kris> compengi:  it works fine i had the same problem with xmms
[22:44] <kris> compengi:  what is the difference?
[22:45] <jerndoe_> DasEi: just for the record, the ps3 runs Xubuntu and there no "places" menu so I can't find the network folder
[22:45] <kris> compengi:  why should i start from termina?
[22:45] <kris> l
[22:45] <compengi> kris, there is no difference between the both. both start the same binary file
[22:45] <[Solars]> and i know with raids .. its a pita to change setups
[22:45] <DasEi>  jerndoe_:is this file new (empty) or saying anything ?
[22:45] <arrrghhh> kris, so you can see the output
[22:45] <kris> hhmmmm
[22:45] <arrrghhh> diagnose any problems
[22:45] <compengi> kris, as arrrghhh said
[22:45] <kris> so there is diference
[22:45] <kris> ok thx
[22:46] <lucax> how do i remove not needed packages or packages that are just wasting hd space?
[22:46] <arrrghhh> kris, it's essentially the same, but if you just run it there's no terminal to see the output from the run :P
[22:46] <bruenig> apt-get remove gnome
[22:46] <jerndoe_> DasEi: done
[22:46] <compengi> kris, no difference in starting the application. only that if it crashes you can get an output
[22:47] <DasEi>  jerndoe_:is this file new (empty) or saying anything ?
[22:47] <jerndoe_> DasEi: its there, theres some sample info in it
[22:47] <arrrghhh> sooooo i need some xorg help.  it won't load the intel driver, it keeps going to the failsafe xorg.conf, which lists the only mode as 800x600 but it's actually loading 640x480 using vesa
[22:47] <roukoun> kris: terminal is more powerfull and flexible than any GUI !!!
[22:48] <kris> roukoun:  i can imagine that
[22:48] <kris> roukoun:  only imagine
[22:48] <compengi> roukoun, powerful? what's that
[22:48] <ortsvorsteher>  try displayconfig-gtk arrrghhh
[22:48] <kris> compengi: arrrghhh: but there is no error it just runs wheni start from terminal
[22:48] <vak> hi all
[22:49] <DasEi>  jerndoe_:so all lines (#) commneted, good...  you now must specify a folder one the laptop to be shared, f.e. :
[22:49] <roukoun> kris: try reading a tutorial to start learn about the basic commands and you'll see that everything is going to be easier
[22:49] <DasEi>  jerndoe_:/home/<urUsername>/Desktop/share
[22:49] <kris> roukoun:  what kind of tutorial exactly ?
[22:49]  * vak hits CTRL-C in console but it doesn't work!! any hints?..
[22:49] <compengi> kris, then it should work nicely in the other way
[22:49] <damaranzig> hi, how do i get the latest gtk+ by doing apt-get install?]
[22:49] <roukoun> try linuxcommand.org
[22:49] <SlimeyPete> vak: ps and kill -9?
[22:49] <DasEi>  jerndoe_:is there already a folder u want to use ?
[22:50] <jerndoe_> DasEi: yes
[22:50] <kris> compengi:  i dont know but it does not start properly from gui
[22:50] <vak> CTRL-C doesn't work in single user mode?...
[22:50] <DasEi>  jerndoe_:where ?
[22:50] <SlimeyPete> be aware that kill -9 will exit processes in a "dirty" fashion though
[22:50] <kris> roukoun:  ok
[22:50] <serg_> vak, the program you send HUP signal doesn't react on it.
[22:50] <compengi> kris, if you start only firefox without any specific website, would it work?
[22:50] <kris> roukoun:  but gui is nice dont you think so? and i can not imagine gimp in text mode ;-)
[22:50] <jerndoe_> DasEI: i can figure that part but what about the tings afterwards (gss/krb5i(rw,sync from the samples)
[22:51] <roukoun> compengi: powerful means powerful...  what do you want to say?
[22:51] <vak> SlimeyPete: ps? :) i just tried ping to see if the system has network and ping doesn't stop! it works and works!!
[22:51] <kris> compengi: yes it works then
[22:51] <ben_> I downloaded poweriso so that i can convert my xp installation file from daa to iso but poweriso is right now an exe and my wine wont run it
[22:51] <^Phantom^> is it safe to mess with brainwaves?
[22:51] <serg_> bye
[22:51] <kris> ^Phantom^:  :)
[22:51] <compengi> kris, try cleaning up your cache, offline pages etc..
[22:51] <vak> serg_, and what would be your advice?
[22:51] <kris> compengi: where to do that?
[22:51] <xim_> anyone know what would cause nautilus to crash in a particular directory on an NTFS files system when viewing in icon mode?
[22:51] <compengi> kris, in preferences
[22:51] <damaranzig> does this: libgtk2.0-dev contain "all" the files?
[22:52] <vak> SlimeyPete: i can't input anything
[22:52] <kris> compengi:  ok
[22:52] <NullName> With ubuntu running vsftpd, is it true that users outside the LAN will get faster dw/up speeds than with running ssh as a server??
[22:52] <SlimeyPete> vak: I'm unsure of your experience so apologies if this is teaching you to suck eggs: ps -aux will list all processes with PIDs, then you do "kill -9 <pid>" (e.g. "kill -9 4588") to force a process to exit
[22:52] <jerndoe_> DasEi: arhh well I couldn't hmm, the folder i want to share is: /home/zaphod/Music
[22:52] <ben_> does anyone know how to get poweriso working?  i have it as an exe but it wont run in wine
[22:52] <[Solars]> basicalyl i have 1498.4GB is my max raid size, and i am trying to determine if I just want to use one 350GB drive for ubunto and just use the other 3 drives as winblows or not
[22:52] <vak> SlimeyPete: and my box doesn't seems to accept SSH connections in the phase where it susspended because of bloody disk check...
[22:52] <SlimeyPete> ah
[22:53] <SlimeyPete> that'll cause problems ;)
[22:53] <DasEi> oo, alright : /path/to/share      iplap(rw,async)   ipps(rw,async)
[22:53] <^Phantom^> just use vbox for winblows expeed
[22:53] <snova> now that i've finally got myself upgraded (almost) to hardy, am i going to have to do all this again for intrepid?
[22:53] <roukoun> kris: of course not...! but linux is in the CLI... you will explore it as the time passes and you start to ask more from your system....
[22:53] <vak> SlimeyPete: no problem I indeed know these basics, the problem is that there is NO way to input anything...
[22:53] <compengi> ben_, try reading some more info in WineHQ
[22:53] <SlimeyPete> why *does* ubuntu still enforce the fsck check by default?? As far as I'm aware it's not necessary with ext3, at leastto nowhere near the extent that it was with ext2.
[22:54] <ben_> i will but i dont think that will help with the running of the exe
[22:54] <snova> SlimeyPete: there are certain things that need to be done periodically on ext2 based partitions that fsck does.
[22:54] <damaranzig> is there such a thing as apt-get update ??? pls. help
[22:54] <compengi> SlimeyPete, after the disk was mounted for many times it should be checked
[22:54] <SlimeyPete> snova: ubuntu uses ext3 by default, though
[22:54] <DasEi>  jerndoe_:  /home/zaphod/Music         <IP_ADDRESS> ps3(rw,async)  <IP_ADDRESS>(rw,async)
[22:54] <jerndoe_> DasEi: shouldn't I enter something for srv? like ip or hostname (/srv/nfs4/homes from the sample)
[22:54] <snova> SlimeyPete: ext3 is just ext2 with journaling on top
[22:54] <Schuenemann> hey, how is the support for the ATI M72 graphic card?
[22:55] <roukoun> damaranzig: can you explain it better?
[22:55] <Hexus> man theres alot of people in here
[22:55] <mitchell_style> hi all need some help here
[22:55] <DasEi>  jerndoe_:  the last line I gave you gives you full acces  (rw) on both machines
[22:55] <SlimeyPete> snova: yeah I know, but I'm under the impression that the journalling should prevent most filesystem corruption; surely it'd be best to just do fsck on request rather than automatically.
[22:55] <roukoun> damaranzig: i didnt really understand!
[22:55] <compengi> damaranzig, there is but it updates all the source list and check from whole system updates if there are any
[22:55] <SlimeyPete> I could easily be wrong though - I don't know all that much about filesystems
[22:56] <DasEi>  jerndoe_:  add this to the export
[22:56] <snova> SlimeyPete: journaling doesn't prevent anything, it just helps make consistency checks go faster, because you have a log of the most recent operations
[22:56] <mitchell_style> http://paste.ubuntu.com/50274/    <---- getting an error not sure what to do
[22:56] <jerndoe_> DasEi: added exactly as you wrote...
[22:56] <SlimeyPete> snova: fair enough
[22:56] <danbhfive> mitchell_style: try sudo apt-get clean and try again, see if that works
[22:57] <snova> mitchell_style: the error probably occured earlier. look farther up the output
[22:57] <DasEi>  jerndoe_:  save n close the file
[22:57] <jerndoe_> DasEI: done
[22:57] <mitchell_style> thanks danbhfive and snova you guys rock
[22:58] <kris> roukoun:  what is CLI ? i am interested.
[22:58] <DasEi>  jerndoe_:  on the ps, :sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[22:58] <damaranzig> compengi / roukoun : thanks i got it already...i did a "apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev not knowing there is libgtk2.8-dev so after i install libgtk2.0-dev all i have to do is do "apt-get update libgtk2.0-dev...right???
[22:58] <snova> quick question about repositories- after i get my system completely upgraded to hardy, will there be a lot more to download when i enable the intreped repos?
[22:59] <roukoun> damaranzig: sudo apt-get update ...
[22:59] <danbhfive> snova: dont enable the intrepid repos
[22:59] <roukoun> kris: Command Line Interface
[22:59] <snova> danbhfive: why? too unstable?
[22:59] <danbhfive> snova: correct.  update-manager will tell you when it is ready
[22:59] <snova> danbhfive: i don't intend to yet, but i want to know if there's going to be a lot to download
[22:59] <compengi> damaranzig, there is no such thing. if you have already that package installed and if ubuntu have released any updates which to check them you can do only through sudo apt-get update, and if that package was updated then it would list to update
[22:59] <DasEi>  jerndoe_: in the host-file, gotta add : <ip>  <computername> <computername.domain.tld>    of laptop,so...
[23:00] <snova> danbhfive: i still have hundreds of megabytes left to be fully upgraded to hardy, and don't want to do it again.
[23:00] <jerndoe_> DasEi: done adding to hosts file
[23:00] <danbhfive> snova: yeah, there will be allot to download.   Most just download the cd
[23:00] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[23:00] <kris> roukoun:  is it terminal or something more ?
[23:00] <roukoun> damaranzig: if you want to upgrade too you have to give: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:00] <DasEi>  jerndoe_: eeerm, that was an example... fill with the correct values...
[23:01] <FuriousGeorge> i got a ps2->usb adapter that doesnt work with kubuntu, but does work with other linux...  how can i tell what kernel module its using?
[23:01] <jerndoe_> DasEi: I did :-)
[23:01] <FuriousGeorge> i guess i should ask in the channel of the distro where its working
[23:01] <damaranzig> roukoun / compengi: thanks
[23:01] <snova> danbhfive: i was hoping the repos weren't very different from each other, except for the range of versions they include
[23:01] <compengi> damaranzig, no problem
[23:01] <roukoun> kris: it is the Interface for the Command line... it's a synonym for the console
[23:01] <DasEi>  jerndoe_:saf n close ps'es hosts
[23:01] <snova> danbhfive: like hardy would have 1-5, and intrepid would have 5-10
[23:01] <DasEi> *safe
[23:01] <kris> roukoun:  ok
[23:01] <jerndoe_> DasEi: don't know much ubuntu/linux but I know my way around window/networking
[23:01] <Xcerca> what is the absolute location of commands for programs like instead of rhythmbox /~/~/rhthmbox   ,  what is that ?
[23:02] <roukoun> kris: CLI(Command Line Interface) = Terminal = Console
[23:02] <danbhfive> snova: well, thats true, but the way you get those new versions is to just re download the software
[23:02] <jerndoe_> DasEi: done
[23:02] <kris> roukoun:  installing system in just only text mode is not sensible now i think?
[23:02] <DasEi>  jerndoe_:on the laptop : sudo exportfs -ra
[23:03] <arrrghhh> ortsvorsteher, i used that gtk config utility you suggested, and it always goes back to vesa and 640x480.  i just switched the card driver and it switched back to vesa when i restarted X
[23:03] <snova> danbhfive: i was hoping that if i was completely upgraded to hardy, then intrepid would just be like the next step, and i could switch to those repos after it's stablized without much difference.
[23:03] <xim_> anyone know what would cause nautilus to crash in a particular directory on an NTFS files system when viewing in icon mode?
[23:03] <roukoun> kris: i didnt understand... can you explain what you mean?
[23:03] <ortsvorsteher> arrrghhh: is it a foreign driver which you use for grafic card?
[23:04] <DasEi>  jerndoe_:on the ps : cd media
[23:04] <jerndoe_> DasEi: done so
[23:04] <kris> roukound: you can just install system in text mode right?
[23:04] <roukoun> kris: of course
[23:04] <kris> roukoun:  only text
[23:04]  * vak hits CTRL-C or CTRL-Z in serial console but it doesn't work!! any hints?..
[23:04] <DasEi>  jerndoe_:on the ps : mkdir /sharelap
[23:04] <arrrghhh> ortsvorsteher, not sure what you mean, it's an intel onboard card.
[23:04] <kris> roukoun:  does have it any sense (nowadays) ?
[23:04] <damaranzig> roukoun: now i need libglade...what's the latest version ???
[23:05] <roukoun> kris: of course yes
[23:05] <kris> ok
[23:05] <jerndoe_> DasEi: done mkdir
[23:05] <DasEi> *sudo ?
[23:05] <ortsvorsteher> arrrghhh: which driver is shown in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[23:05] <arrrghhh>  Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[23:05] <kwyjibo> anyone have experience running openvpn, to get it to run on bootup?
[23:05] <roukoun> damaranzig: try apt-cache search libglade
[23:05] <jerndoe_> DasEi: used sudo to create folder
[23:05] <arrrghhh> ortsvorsteher, i810, but it uses xorg.conf.failsafe
[23:05] <DavidCanarias> Help please?? When I try to connect to my hotmail a/c I am told I need to download updated Mozilla Firefox. Can't I do this thru the terminal instead of downloading a tar file which I don't know what to do with? Thanks
[23:06] <damaranzig> roukoun: will do...thanks
[23:06] <dr_willis> DavidCanarias,  what version of firefox are you using? what release of ubuntu are you using?
[23:06] <ortsvorsteher> arrrghhh: i am not sure how to explain how you can look your driver is activated cause i have only ubuntu in german language
[23:07] <arrrghhh> ortsvorsteher, well xorg.conf is configured to use the i810 driver.  however, if ubuntu doesn't like the default xorg.conf it loads xorg.conf.failsafe.
[23:07] <roukoun> kris: you can install a linux from scratch compiling everything including Kernel and so on, all done from a terminal.... to bring up a system of your own...
[23:07] <compengi> Xcerca, you mean where the binary file is located?
[23:07] <roukoun> kris: actually to accomplish that CLI it's the only way
[23:08] <DasEi> jerndoe_: (ps)   sudo mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/home/zaphod/Music  /media/sharelap
[23:08] <ortsvorsteher> arrrghhh: true. did you reboot after installing the driver?
[23:08] <Xcerca> compengi yea
[23:08] <kris> roukoun:  sounds interesting
[23:08] <compengi> Xcerca, /usr/bin
[23:08] <ortsvorsteher> !grafic
[23:08] <DavidCanarias> dr_willis: I'm using Ubuntu Hardy and Firefox web browser (how can I confirm which version?) I thought this updated on its own
[23:08] <roukoun> kris: linuxfromscratch.com can give you all the informations needed to do it!
[23:08] <ortsvorsteher> !card
[23:08] <kris> roukoun:  but i think to difficult for me right now
[23:08] <ortsvorsteher> !driver
[23:08] <dr_willis> DavidCanarias,  Ive not had any issues with firefox3 in hotmail.. let me check right now
[23:09] <arrrghhh> ortsvorsteher, yes when i reboot that's when it uses the failsafe file.
[23:09] <DasEi> jerndoe_: any error from last cmd ?
[23:09] <DavidCanarias> dr_willis: I appreciate your help, thanks
[23:09] <SlimeyPete> DavidCanarias: I'm suspicious of that message tbh. Ubuntu includes FF3.0 with security patches.
[23:09] <kris> roukoun:  not now
[23:09] <kris> roukoun:  i am beginner
[23:09] <SlimeyPete> It may be MS cocking things up
[23:10] <ortsvorsteher> may you try do reinstall the driver for new arrrghhh but i have no idea what exactly can be at your system
[23:10] <jerndoe_> DasEi: yes, just checking if i wrote something wrong
[23:10] <dr_willis> DavidCanarias,  i cant even rember my hotmail password... doh!
[23:10] <arrrghhh> ortsvorsteher, k thanks
[23:10] <roukoun> kris: with linux you will never stop reading
[23:10] <SlimeyPete> DavidCanarias: in fact I'm sure. The ubuntu Hardy FF, assuming you have applied automatic updates from apt, is the latest
[23:10] <kris> roukoun:  i love reading
[23:10] <kris> roukoun:  :)
[23:10] <SlimeyPete> DavidCanarias: if you go to Help -> About in FF it tells you the version at the bottom
[23:10] <DavidCanarias> dr_willis: oh dear???? Can I not go into terminal and put in something about update firefox???
[23:10] <arrrghhh> unop, not sure what is left to try at this point.  any way to just start back from square one in respect to all video driver stuff?
[23:10] <argento> how do i install extra themes for gnome?
[23:11] <roukoun> kris: just start with the basics (terminal) and then find something you are interesting in and go on.......
[23:11] <DasEi> jerndoe_: last cmd was on the ps >see brackets in front,not part of cmd!
[23:11] <damaranzig> roukoun: i have an error that says: "bz2 library (bz2 compression) not found" how do i get this? pls. help :)
[23:11] <DasEi> jerndoe_:   sudo mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/home/zaphod/Music  /media/sharelap
[23:11] <DavidCanarias> SlimeyPete: That is exactly what I thought and its why I don't understand whats happening
[23:11] <dr_willis> DavidCanarias,  firefox 3.0.1 is working here fine with hotmail.. let me check other machine
[23:11] <kris> roukoun:  there is no interesting things in GUI?
[23:11] <SlimeyPete> DavidCanarias: I think hotmail is reading the useragent incorrectly or something
[23:11] <kris> roukoun:  i like text mode but... gui also needed
[23:11] <jerndoe_> DasEi: permission denied
[23:12] <DavidCanarias> dr_willis: thks
[23:12] <SlimeyPete> DavidCanarias: or else perhaps it hasn't been taught that 3.0.2 is the latest version
[23:12] <D4ntino> list it
[23:12] <KDB9000> need some help, trying to boot a live CD onto an HP Pavilion tx 2000 (Tablet). it starts to boot then ejects the CD and acts like you restart the live CD. Any thoughts?
[23:12] <compengi> argento, you download a specific theme for gnome, unpack it then you just add the folder and gnome would read it's theme contents then you switch to iy
[23:12] <compengi> it*
[23:12] <DavidCanarias> SlimeyPete: I just don't know. I'd like to find a solution with a bit of help
[23:12] <dr_willis> DavidCanarias,  firefox 3.0.1 is working here fine with hotmail under linux and windows.
[23:12] <roukoun> damaranzig: what's the output of the "which bzip2" command?
[23:12] <Kaseas> Hi, I cannot connect to my wireless network, no matter what I try.
[23:12] <Kaseas> I have used b43fwcutter
[23:13] <DavidCanarias> dr_willis: so what's happened with mine??? Can you suggest anything I can do?
[23:13] <Kaseas> And it appears as if I cannot connect to anything
[23:13] <SlimeyPete> DavidCanarias: well as it's definitely up-to-date in ubuntu I would suggest that you have to ask MS/an MS forum for help; Ubuntu/FF is not at fault as far as I can see
[23:13] <Kaseas> even if I broadcast my SSID
[23:13] <Kaseas> Help?
[23:13] <dr_willis> DavidCanarias,  not really - i avoide hotmail. I see my account has 400+ spam messages it missed... i rember why i never check it..
[23:13] <DavidCanarias> Shal I try deleting and reinstalling??
[23:13] <dr_willis> DavidCanarias,  try a useragent tool to set the agent, or opera browser
[23:13] <roukoun> kris: you will get "addicted" to the console when you can use its power
[23:13] <SlimeyPete> I guess MS have no particular interest in rushing to make hotmail work withthe latest FF. It's not in their nature.
[23:13] <snova> do the kde4 applications clash with the kde3 ones? like if i install kwrite-kde4, is this going to want to replace the kde3 version? or is it named differently?
[23:13] <dr_willis> DavidCanarias,  thats 'windows' thinking.. remoive/reinstalling stuff RARELY fixes things under linux
[23:14] <DavidCanarias> dr_willis: I tried with Konqueror and had the same problem
[23:14] <Kaseas> Can anyone help?
[23:14] <kris> roukoun:  i hope so
[23:14] <DasEi> jerndoe_:   (lap)  sudo gedit /etc/exports
[23:14] <dr_willis> DavidCanarias,  - sounding like a deeper/more convuluted issue. not a browser specific issue.
[23:14] <damaranzig> roukoun: when i do a "scons" on my dcpp tar ball i get the "bz2 library (bz2 compression) not found" s i figger i need the package...i dn't know the package name :(
[23:14] <DavidCanarias> SlimeyPete: dr_willis: Can I try updating on terminal??
[23:14] <kwyjibo> anyone have experience getting openvpn to run on bootup?
[23:14] <roukoun> kris: you cant accomplish everything with gui
[23:14] <SlimeyPete> DavidCanarias: nothing's wrong with your FF. I'm sure mine is working fine and I still see the message.
[23:14] <dr_willis> DavidCanarias,  i would try the Operabrowser
[23:14] <SlimeyPete> but I run FF 3.0.2, as do you I suspect, unlike dr_willis
[23:14] <Kaseas> Can someone help me, please?
[23:14] <jerndoe_> DasEi: mistyped path, now no erros occured
[23:14] <kris> roukoun:  i know it
[23:14] <dr_willis> DavidCanarias,  'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' and thats as up to date as it gets
[23:14] <SlimeyPete> so I suspect it is a useragent issue. The useragent changed in the latest update.
[23:15] <kris> roukoun:  my strategy is so... i run gui
[23:15] <jerndoe_> DasEI: I see my music :-)
[23:15] <SlimeyPete> DavidCanarias: updating won't make any difference. you already have the latest version.
[23:15] <DasEi> jerndoe_:   (ps) c..
[23:15] <kris> roukoun:  when i have problem i run terminal
[23:15] <kris> roukoun:  but without understanding sometimes
[23:15] <DasEi> jerndoe_:   aahh, can you hear it, also ?
[23:15] <DavidCanarias> Then I am completely at a loss as to whats going on
[23:15] <Kaseas> help? please?
[23:15] <SlimeyPete> DavidCanarias: though for the record, "sudo apt-get update firefox" will do the update if a newer version is available
[23:16] <roukoun> damaranzig: give the command: "which bzip2" and tell what's the output....
[23:16] <Kaseas> I cannot connect to any wireless networks, despite having followed all the guides I could off google...
[23:16] <SlimeyPete> DavidCanarias: basically the hotmail devs haven't reacted fast enough to the latest FF update
[23:16] <jerndoe_> DasEi: well now I get a codec error...
[23:16] <burlap> hola... anyone have experience with Sun xVM VirtualBox on Hardy?
[23:16] <damaranzig> roukoun: will do
[23:16] <jerndoe_> DasEi: its mp3
[23:16] <SlimeyPete> the site is checking the versions and is presumably expecting <= 3.0.1
[23:16] <snova> burlap: i use it.
[23:16] <mEck0> hi! is there any serious webshop where you can buy games (legal!) and whom delivers to european countries?
[23:16] <SlimeyPete> we have 3.0.2, so it thinks we have an unsupported version
[23:16] <roukoun> kris: so you have to read about everything you dont understand.. that's the only solution
[23:16] <dena> can someone help me configure my xorg.conf. nvidia-xconfig hoses it every time I try to use it.  I can access mine albeit with the old interface. However, mine is a very old account.
[23:17] <DasEi> jerndoe_:   (ps) :  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:17] <burlap> i mount the iso, the img for the floppy and get to formatting the install and it hangs
[23:17] <kris> roukon: i have looked at the system there is so much of knowledge there is no possibility to get know it all
[23:17] <SlimeyPete> DavidCanarias: did you click "continue to Windows Live hotmail"?
[23:17] <DasEi> jerndoe_:   (ps) :  sudo gedit fstab
[23:17] <SlimeyPete> it works for me.
[23:18] <damaranzig> roukoun: /bin/bzip2
[23:18] <jerndoe_> DasEI: installing....
[23:18] <damaranzig> roukoun: here's the prob..."Checking for C library bz2... no"      "bz2 library (bz2 compression) not found"
[23:18] <slide> Are there any 'server monitoring' suites/programs in the ubuntu repo? Apache started using 100% CPU and my host had to get involved in my VPN i'd like to know be notified or things like that
[23:18] <stickboy> how do i find out my hardware?
[23:19] <DavidCanarias> SlimeyPete: No i clicked on the Linux option not windows
[23:19] <genii> stickboy: sudo lshw | more
[23:19] <nxnn> Hi, I am newish to Ubuntu and was wondering if anyone was willing to answer a couple of questions about mysql and file sharing between mac osx and ubuntu. I am running Ubuntu on my macbook with parallels desktop
[23:19] <javierg> Anyone know why I am getting a "Can't guess meta-package" "Your system does not contain a ubuntu desktop"
[23:20] <SlimeyPete> DavidCanarias: hrm, hang on
[23:20] <DavidCanarias> dr_willis: how do I get a firefox useragent extension?????
[23:20] <roukoun> damaranzig: "sudo apt-get install libbz2-dev" and then try again
[23:20] <SlimeyPete> DavidCanarias: it says "download new browsers blah blah..." and then at the bottom there's a link to "continue to Windows Live hotmail"
[23:20] <compengi> SlimeyPete, there are some of monitory applications that are used in ubuntu servers check this link out http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/techspecs
[23:20] <SlimeyPete> I clicked that and it worked, albeit with the old interface
[23:21] <damaranzig> roukoun: will do...thx! :)
[23:21] <Schuenemann> DavidCanarias, in firefox's web site, of course
[23:21] <SlimeyPete> compengi: erm, did you mean to address that to me?
[23:21] <DavidCanarias> SlimeyPete: Eureka you have hit the nail on the head. A million thanks to you!!!!
[23:21] <compengi> SlimeyPete, no not you. sorry :D
[23:21] <javierg> Anyone know why I am getting a "Can't guess meta-package" "Your system does not contain a ubuntu desktop"
[23:21] <SlimeyPete> DavidCanarias: np :)
[23:21] <SlimeyPete> compengi: :)
[23:21] <DavidCanarias> dr_willis: many thanks to you too!!!!
[23:21] <compengi> Slide, there are some of monitory applications that are used in ubuntu servers check this link out http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/techspecs
[23:22] <DasEi> jerndoe_: done and fstab open?
[23:22] <jerndoe_> DasEi: nope, ps3 not that fast with linux.....
[23:22] <davidroderick> what do you do if you have an input output problem on a directory?
[23:22] <nxnn> anyone wanna help me?
[23:23] <jerndoe_> DasEi: atleast not out the box
[23:23] <compengi> nxnn, i don't see a question :D
[23:23] <nxnn> sorry, ok ill repost it
[23:23] <damaranzig> roukoun: the prob's not over yet : Checking for C library crypto... no"        crypto library not found"      "Note: This library may be a part of libssl on your system"
[23:23] <DasEi> jerndoe_: ok, roger when ready then ,its just one more step for automount
[23:23] <DasEi> Hexus:  ?
[23:23] <nxnn> (05:19:24 PM) nxnn: Hi, I am newish to Ubuntu and was wondering if anyone was willing to answer a couple of questions about mysql and file sharing between mac osx and ubuntu. I am running Ubuntu on my macbook with parallels desktop
[23:24] <Hexus> yes?
[23:24] <javierg> Anyone know why I am getting a "Can't guess meta-package" "Your system does not contain a ubuntu desktop"
[23:24] <nxnn> i cant file sharing to work between the two
[23:24] <DasEi> Hexus:  solved your sound ?
[23:24] <snova> javierg: what were you doing?
[23:24] <roukoun> damaranzig: sudo apt-get install libssl
[23:24] <compengi> nxnn, have you installed samba?
[23:24] <Hexus> DasEi no, tried everything i know.
[23:24] <DasEi> pm me
[23:24] <nxnn> i tried it that way but i have a problem with that
[23:24] <damaranzig> roukoun: will do...thx!
[23:25] <compengi> nxnn, why?
[23:25] <nxnn> i am on a local network with literally hundreds of other people
[23:25] <roukoun> nxnn: what about samba?
[23:25] <javierg> snova, The update manager said there were some updates 4 for firefox, and 2 for xulrunner. It tried to install them and then says that it can't because it doesn't know the meta package.
[23:25] <compengi> nxnn, and?
[23:25] <nxnn> so my files are shown to everyone, at least the way i had it set up
[23:25] <slide> thanks compengi ill check it out
[23:25] <nxnn> you know what i mean
[23:25] <javierg> snova, I was reading my email :)
[23:25] <compengi> nxnn, don't share you files then
[23:25] <compengi> nxnn, or create a user and a pass
[23:26] <compengi> for that share
[23:26] <roukoun> nxnn: you have to make a shared folder and change its permissions.....
[23:26] <nxnn> how does that work?
[23:26] <nxnn> like on my mac?
[23:26] <compengi> !samba > nxnn