[09:19] <TJ-> Iriez: Yay! After the kernel is installed, do "update-grub" to regen the grub.cfg
[09:19] <Iriez> ah k
[09:20] <Iriez> still only win 7 loader, but it shows 2 linux images now
[09:20] <Iriez> along with it
[09:21] <Iriez> boot/vmlinuz and /boot/initrd.img
[09:21] <TJ-> Iriez: Can you pastebin that grub.cfg?
[09:21] <TJ-> Iriez: It sounds like we *may* be done
[09:22] <Iriez> hrm, looks it
[09:22] <Iriez> there's some linux stuffs in there now :)
[09:22] <TJ-> Iriez: lemme see! I need some positive news :)
[09:22] <TJ-> Iriez: then I may go back to bed for a few hours :)
[09:22] <Iriez> www.pastebin.com/65F71xHC
[09:23] <TJ-> Iriez: Looks good: "Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.0-57-generic-pae"
[09:23] <TJ-> Iriez: Give it a spin :)
[09:23]  * Iriez spins
[09:24] <Iriez> WWHOOHOOO
[09:24] <Iriez> we have launch!
[09:24] <TJ-> tsimpson: Isn't schroot Debian-only? The rescue image is Gentoo
[09:24] <TJ-> Iriez: It's working?
[09:24] <Iriez> funny how things end up being the simpler aspects
[09:24] <Iriez> like 'update kernels first'
[09:24] <Iriez> yes :)
[09:24] <TJ-> Iriez: Thank *huskies* for that!!!
[09:24] <Iriez> or wait
[09:24] <Iriez> Hrm
[09:24] <TJ-> Iriez: don't you dare!
[09:24] <Iriez> im getting a stall on boot though, thats strange
[09:25] <Iriez> (initramfs)
[09:25] <Iriez> stopped at a 'BusyBox' screen
[09:25] <TJ-> Iriez: No it isn't; I'd hazard a guess there's some problems with that install after what we've seen!
[09:25] <Iriez> well, I can always go and reinstall to that partition
[09:25] <Iriez> re-create the lvm and everything the same
[09:26] <Iriez> and choose to not f with the bootloader
[09:26] <Iriez> and i think it will be okay
[09:26] <Iriez> lol
[09:26]  * Iriez hangs head
[09:26] <TJ-> Iriez: That suggests maybe that cryptsetup's cryptab entry may not have been copied into the initrd (have you seen the LUKS pass-phrase prompt ?)
[09:26] <tsimpson> TJ-: it shouldn't matter what's inside the chroot
[09:26] <Iriez> No, no prompt
[09:26] <Iriez> and yea, it stalled right before the prompt, so your probably right
[09:27] <TJ-> Iriez: OK, so the probable issue now is to ensure the root FS has a correct /etc/crypttab... that's for after you've got some sleep though
[09:27] <Iriez> :)
[09:27] <Iriez> indeed
[09:27] <TJ-> tsimpson: Ubuntu is inside, Gentoo is outside :)
[09:27] <Iriez> TJ: I hope you got a bitcoin wallet, because im going to send you a donation for help.
[09:27] <Iriez> thanks for the several hours tonight, haha :)
[09:27] <TJ-> Iriez: Remember this bit: In the initrd, the crypttab entry is in, I seem to recall...
[09:28] <Iriez> im not remembering nuthins :P
[09:28] <Iriez> IRC however will.
[09:28] <TJ-> Iriez: .... /conf/  ... can't remember the precise name of the file or if in a sub-dir of that or not, but it isn't in /etc/ as you may expect
[09:28] <Iriez> yes, the plot thickens
[09:29] <Iriez> thanks so much
[09:29]  * Iriez ZzzzZZzz
[09:29] <TJ-> Iriez: however, when the kernel was installed "update-initramfs -uk all" should have sorted that out for you
[09:33] <nick787> hi guys, i'm trying to write an sh script to loop through a file and figure out the value of each byte, what tool could I use for that?
[09:37] <Jordan_U> nick787: What is your end goal?
[09:47] <Ivanov> hey guys, random dumb question but now that i got ubuntu installed, how do i upgrade from 12.x to the latest 13.x?
[09:48] <cfhowlett> Ivanov, either torrent and install the newest version or attempt the distro upgrade from the software center.
[09:48] <Ivanov> software center, thanks
[09:49] <Ivanov> how do i do that though?
[09:49] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | Ivanov
[09:49] <dns53> Ivanov   update-manager can do it, update-manager -d  for dev releases   or do-release-upgrade for console installs
[09:52] <chemist^> haha
[09:52] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:54] <chemist^> I have a problem... i have an USB stick from which i can read all files but cannot delete, move the files... and i can not format the drive ... is this a faulty usb stick?
[09:54] <iceroot> chemist^: write protected?
[09:55] <chemist^> iceroot i don't think so...it's not mine ...it belongs to a friend of mine
[09:55] <chemist^> and i don't think he made it read-only
[09:55] <chemist^> he told me he was using it normally, adding and deleting files
[09:55] <chemist^> and all of a sudden, cannot delete anymore
[09:58] <chemist^> iceroot how do i change it? .. right click - properties does not work for me... i change the permissions and still can not delete files
[09:58] <chemist^> i may have found the cause of the problem
[09:59] <chemist^> it's some corrupted files ... there's a folder there called PIONEER ... and some odd file types in it
[09:59] <chemist^> when i try to change the permissions for the stick... it gives an error stating that permissions could not be set for the mentioned files/folder
[10:01] <chemist^> how do i get rid of corrupted files on a usb stick in order to reformat it? please help anyone
[10:01] <chemist^> it says "cannot change permissions" ... why the f*** not???
[10:02] <iceroot> chemist^: maybe its a ntfs stick and you are not using ubuntu (or something else which is not using ntfs-3g) with normal ntfs you can not write on ntfs, only with ntfs-3g but when you are using ubuntu this should not be the problem
[10:02] <Rory> chemist^: You can format it regardless of what's currently there
[10:02] <SwedMike> chemist^: you don't need to remove files in order to format the stick. there might be a permission problem, but it hasn't got anything to do with deleting files.
[10:02] <cfhowlett> chemist^, try doing so with sudo to override permission blocks?
[10:02] <Rory> chemist^: What happens when you try to format it using the Disk utility included in Ubuntu?
[10:02] <chemist^> it gives me an odd error
[10:02] <Rory> chemist^: ...go on
[10:02] <chemist^> i tried the disk utility and the gpardet
[10:03] <chemist^> gparted
[10:03] <Rory> what error?
[10:03] <chemist^> wait
[10:03] <Xat`> when I'm installing samba4 package from Ubuntu LTS repositories, I get an error : http://pastebin.com/9U60Hj4R
[10:03] <Rory> Xat`: Can you paste the command you ran, along with the full output?
[10:03] <chemist^> and i do use ubuntu and have ntfs-3g installed correctly
[10:03] <Rory> Xat`: That looks like just part of a longer output
[10:03] <chemist^> the filesystem of the stick is fat32
[10:03] <Xat`> of course Rory
[10:04] <chemist^> and it doesn't work on windows too
[10:04] <Rory> chemist^: It's possible actually pysically broken? Also does it have a read-only switch on the side?
[10:04] <chemist^> yes that was my guess....that it's simply broken
[10:04] <gordonjcp> chemist^: USB stick?  What make?
[10:04] <chemist^> no it doesn't
[10:04] <chemist^> very simple usb stick
[10:05] <chemist^> think xtra 8gb
[10:05] <Rory> chemist^: you could try running "sudo badblocks -wsv /dev/<device>"
[10:05] <chemist^> ok wait
[10:05] <Rory> chemist^: that will wipe the drive, so get the device name right !!!
[10:06] <Rory> chemist^: if you're at all unsure, don't run it, instead run "sudo fdisk -l" and pastebin the output so I can see which device is which
[10:06] <gordonjcp> chemist^: I've sent back about six or seven Sandisk USB sticks, which failed by just reporting that they were read-only
[10:06] <gordonjcp> they are notorious for it
[10:06] <Rory> ditto
[10:08] <Xat`> Rory: here's the output : http://pastebin.com/2JN3s2Ze
[10:08] <un0000> gordonjcp, did the sticks say read only all the time or just at random? cause I have this problem as well and I never thought it could be a sandisk failure sign
[10:08] <Rory> Xat`: can you please run "sudo apt-get purge samba4" then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install samba4"
[10:09] <gordonjcp> un0000: all the time
[10:09] <gordonjcp> the moral of this story is, don't buy name-brand USB sticks
[10:09] <gordonjcp> insist on cheap non-name Chinese crap
[10:09] <Xat`> Rory: what's the problem ?
[10:10] <Xat`> installation during installation process ?
[10:10] <Xat`> problem *during installation process ?
[10:10] <Rory> Xat`: Not sure, but that's a good first step in case of a package that won't configure correctly
[10:12] <chemist^> Rory i am sure which drive is the usb :D don't worry
[10:12] <chemist^> it's sdc1
[10:12] <chemist^> i just need to unmount it first
[10:12] <chemist^> sorry, had to go downstairs for a minute
[10:12] <Xat`> Rory: now I'm getting this after I asked me for some basic samba4 configuration : http://pastebin.com/yVP9BVn1
[10:12] <Rory> chemist^: Here's information on the command you're going to run, including what each argument does https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/badblocks#Testing_for_Bad_Sectors
[10:12] <Rekog> Why browser no work in Ubuntu?
[10:13] <Rory> !details | Rekog
[10:13] <Jonathan___> hello, i just installed kubuntu 13 on my desktop, it show my wifi network under connections, but when i type in the password it won't connect, does anyone have an idea??? Please help!!!
[10:13] <Rekog> http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/en
[10:13] <Rory> Jonathan___: What wireless device do you have? Can you please put the output of the command "lspci -v" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:14] <Rory> Rekog: That's not actually ubuntu, that's just a mockup to show people what it looks like
[10:14] <chemist^> Jonathan___  maybe u have the MTU set wrong
[10:14] <Rory> chemist^: It's more likely just a broadcom device with terrible drivers
[10:14] <chemist^> or a hardware button that disables wireless perhaps? :D
[10:14] <Rekog> its no Web OS?
[10:14] <Rory> !ubuntu | Rekog
[10:14] <Rekog> :(
[10:15] <Jonathan___> so do i type what u have in quotes in a terminal
[10:15] <Rekog> many OS work in browser
[10:15] <chemist^> yeys
[10:15] <Rory> Jonathan___: Type the following line as it appears:
[10:15] <Xat`> Rory: i'll do what it says ;)
[10:15] <Rory> sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit && lspci -v | pastebinit
[10:15] <chemist^> wtf
[10:15] <Rory> Jonathan___: Then give me the URL
[10:15] <chemist^> why does the usb stick have a boot flag?
[10:15] <Rory> Rekog: Ubuntu is an operating system like Windows or OSX
[10:15] <chemist^> is that usual for all usb memory sticks?
[10:16] <Rory> chemist^: That's not uncommon
[10:16] <Beldar> chemist^, no swearing or acronyms of.
[10:16] <chemist^> or did my friend did something stupid without knowing it :D
[10:16] <Rekog> http://osjs.0o.no/
[10:16] <Rory> chemist^: if you ever booted from it
[10:16] <Rory> !ot | Rekog
[10:16] <chemist^> Beldar lol... ok sorry
[10:16] <chemist^> some ppl are really sensitive :P
[10:16] <chemist^> Rory not me...
[10:16] <Ben64> it is the channel rules, chemist^
[10:16] <Beldar> !language | chemist^ channel rules
[10:17] <chemist^> and my friends lacks knowledge to do so :)
[10:17] <chemist^> yes yes i already said sorry
[10:17] <chemist^> keep calm
[10:17] <Rekog> Ubuntu Web will work in browsr?
[10:17] <Beldar> chemist^, then made a snarky remark.
[10:17] <gordonjcp> I find the term "family-friendly" to be deeply offensive
[10:17] <cfhowlett> !attitude
[10:17] <willbradley> made a script for automatically pinging from the systray: https://github.com/zyphlar/pinger
[10:17] <chemist^> ...
[10:18] <mayo> join #android
[10:18] <chemist^> Rekog oh man...this will take forever
[10:18] <chemist^> 0.61%
[10:18] <chemist^> 3 min. elapsed
[10:18] <Beldar> gordonjcp, Of course you do all you know is arguing.
[10:18] <Jonathan___> rory it says ubable to locate pastebinint
[10:19] <Rekog> What with Ubuntu touch?
[10:19] <cfhowlett> !touch|Rekog,
[10:19] <Rory> Jonathan___: you ran sudo apt-get install pastebinit ?
[10:20] <Jonathan___> i cant get to the internet on it
[10:20] <Rory> chemist^: Run it overnight
[10:20] <Rory> Jonathan___: Not even with a cable?
[10:20] <chemist^> Rory ok will do that...any other faster method of searching for the problem?
[10:20] <gordonjcp> !attitude | Beldar
[10:20] <Jonathan___> no because the modem that we use is in my landlords appartment, so i dont have access to it
[10:21] <chemist^> hahaha :D
[10:21] <Jonathan___> i am communicating with u through my laptop
[10:21] <Rory> chemist^: You could just run "sudo badblocks -v /dev/sdc1"
[10:21] <Rekog> Ubuntu touch will work on the netbook?
[10:21] <Rory> Rekog: It depends which netbook, there are a lot of them
[10:22] <Beldar> hehe, I love the ignore
[10:22] <chemist^> Rory ok...but i do not have any issues with reading from it
[10:22] <Xat`> whe installating samba4 on Ubuntu LTS i get this problem : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba4/+bug/1091348
[10:22] <Rory> Jonathan___: OK so if you could run "lspci | grep Net" and copy out what it says yourself
[10:22] <Rekog> Acer
[10:22] <Rory> Rekog: Without further information, (acer make a lot of laptops) all I can say is, it will almost certainly "work"
[10:23] <Rory> Rekog: But you might find specific things like wifi have an additional step before they are working
[10:23] <Rekog> ADSL
[10:24] <Jonathan___> it says: 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[10:24] <Rory> Rekog: You could just download it and try it out on a LiveUSB to see
[10:24] <chemist^> if you have ADSL with ppp you will need to provide an username and password when connecting
[10:24] <Rory> Thanks Jonathan___
[10:24] <cfhowlett> Rekog, for details of #ubuntu-touch, go to #ubuntu-touch
[10:24] <Jonathan___> your welcom
[10:24] <Rekog> flash drive?
[10:24] <Jonathan___> thank you
[10:24] <chemist^> but wifi with dhcp should do the trick nowadays
[10:24] <Rekog> why livecd? i want normal install
[10:25] <Rory> Rekog: The Live USB includes the installer
[10:25] <Rory> Rekog: So once you have verified it works, you can do the installation
[10:25] <Rory> Jonathan___: Is this Ubuntu 12.04 or Ubuntu 13.10?
[10:25] <chemist^> Jonathan___  are you trying to connect a desktop computer or a laptop to the wifi network?
[10:25] <Rekog> then i need 2 USB?
[10:25] <Jonathan___> its a desktop and it is Kubuntu 13.10
[10:26] <Rory> Rekog: No, you need a single USB flash drive. You copy the Ubuntu image to this flash drive using a program that does that, and then you boot from it
[10:26] <chemist^> ok... you sure you typed in the correct password? :D
[10:26] <Rory> Rekog: Then, you run the installer and install Ubuntu to the hard drive in your netbook
[10:26] <Rory> Jonathan___: triple-check the password is correct
[10:26] <chemist^> Jonathan___ one of my friends have a .... "bad" software on his adsl modem/router
[10:27] <Rekog> then i need make resize partition
[10:27] <chemist^> and i had to open the admin page
[10:27] <chemist^> set another channel
[10:27] <Jonathan___> i did, and i opend the network connections on my laptop to check that they match and they do!
[10:27] <chemist^> and restart the router...then it worked ok
[10:27] <Rory> Rekog: Do you want to dual-boot Ubuntu with the current OS on your netbook? or do you want ubuntu to be the only OS?
[10:27] <chemist^> same problem...typed in the password and got the error: error while authenticating
[10:27] <Rory> Jonathan___: Can you go to Edit Connections, find the wireless network in question
[10:27] <chemist^> it's a badly-made firmware
[10:27] <Madkiss> 1
[10:27] <Rekog> double of cose
[10:27] <Jonathan___> yes
[10:27] <Madkiss> sorry.
[10:28] <Rory> Jonathan___: Make sure the key is correctly saved there, and tick the box saying "available to all users"
[10:29] <Jonathan___> i did and it is
[10:29] <chemist^> Jonathan___ if what Rory said will not work for you....trust me, call your landlord and tell him to reset the modem/router
[10:29] <Rory> Jonathan___: Could you test with another network? You might be able to make a wireless hotspot if you have an Android phone
[10:29] <chemist^> i had many issues with these new modem/routers ... they all suck :D
[10:29] <Rory> Jonathan___: That would tell us if it's only that wifi network which is causing a problem
[10:29] <chemist^> the software on them is usually faulty
[10:30] <Yawnie_> Hey everyone
[10:30] <Rory> Jonathan___: Could just wait til everyone's out, turn the router off and on again :)
[10:30] <chemist^> Yawnie_ hey
[10:30] <chemist^> Jonathan___  yes...try it with your phone... and another network too... maybe it's not your computer's fault
[10:31] <Jonathan___> i have an android but i cant use it as a hot spot, its not part of my service plan, but my laptop and my wifes laptop are running the same os, and they are able to connect
[10:31] <chemist^> lol
[10:31] <Yawnie_> New Ubuntu user here, hard drive died, replaced it, and the #s on my COA for Windows 7 wore off the sticker. Sure is something to get used to.
[10:31] <Rory> Jonathan___: It's not part of your service plan, so disable 3g before you do it. You can still make the hotspot even if you can't access the internet through it
[10:31] <chemist^> maybe your landlord has a limited number of dhcp clients
[10:31] <Rory> Jonathan___: You only need to see if you can connect to the wifi
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> Yawnie_  the question being?
[10:32] <Yawnie_> Anyone on here use haguichi?
[10:32] <Rory> Jonathan___: Settings -> Wireless and Networks -> Tethering & Portable Hotspot
[10:32] <chemist^> Jonathan___ isn't there any open wifi at your current location?
[10:33] <Jonathan___> nope
[10:33] <Jonathan___>  im checking now though to make sure
[10:33] <chemist^> :)
[10:34] <chemist^> Rory it finished
[10:34] <chemist^> the badblocks
[10:34] <Rory> chemist^: Was there any output?
[10:34] <chemist^> no errors
[10:35] <jefersen> why is youtube showing a black screen?
[10:35] <chemist^> Pass completed, 0 bad blocks found. (0/0/0 errors)
[10:35] <chemist^> jefersen it works well 4 me
[10:35] <Rory> chemist^: Can you try this: "sudo mkfs.ext2 -c -v /dev/sdc1"
[10:35] <Yawnie_> black screen how?
[10:35] <Rory> jefersen: What browser?
[10:36] <jefersen> mozilla
[10:36] <Jonathan___> ok so i have a modem thats turned on, but its not connected to any service, however my computer did connect to it!
[10:36] <jefersen> (rory) mozilla
[10:36] <Rory> jefersen: Do you have Flash installed? (sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras)
[10:36] <chemist^> Rory why do i keep using the read-only check
[10:36] <chemist^> when reading is fine
[10:36] <Rory> Jonathan___: OK so try turning your router off and on again
[10:36] <chemist^> i have problems with writing and deleting files
[10:37] <Rory> chemist^: The command I gave will create a new filesystem on the device, I'm mostly interested in any errors it produces
[10:37] <Rory> chemist^: Since you never gave me the "weird error" you get
[10:37] <chemist^> ok
[10:37] <chemist^> ;D
[10:37] <chemist^> yes well...sorry i had to go afk
[10:38] <chemist^> and when i came back, you had a new advice ready 4 me :D
[10:38] <mayo> join #android
[10:38] <Yawnie_> So, I guess that's a negative on if anyone here uses Hamachi/Haguichi. Cause I have a question or two about it
[10:38] <Jordan_U> mayo: /join #android
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> !ask | Yawnie_
[10:38] <cfhowlett> !anybody|Yawnie_,
[10:40] <chemist^> what's the command i forgot.... for pastebin .... was it "command | pastebin"
[10:40] <chemist^> or ubuntubin
[10:40] <chemist^> can't remember
[10:40] <dpaulus> o/
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> chemist^  pastebinit
[10:42] <chemist^> MonkeyDust hehe thanks
[10:43] <jefersen> (Rory) thanks rory, that seems to have solved it
[10:43] <jefersen> (Rory) btw, have you used citrix before?
[10:44] <Rory> jefersen: no
[10:44] <Rory> No problem, glad I could help :)
[10:44] <jefersen> (Rory) damn, so you probably wouldn't be able to help me with that right
[10:44] <Rory> jefersen: No idea, ask your question and find out :)
[10:45] <Yawnie_> Alright, so I just installed Hamachi with the Haguichi GUI interface, hamachi says I'm connected yet when I try to connect to a server my friend runs via Haguichi, no matter how I type it, it says "Network not found". On Windows this was not a problem. What am I doing wrong?
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> jefersen  type ro and then press tab, see what happens
[10:45] <chemist^> Rory should i paste the dmesg output when trying to format it with gparted and get that weird error?
[10:45] <jefersen> (MonkeyDust) where?
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> jefersen  here, in the irc channel
[10:46] <jefersen> Oh.
[10:46] <jefersen> lol, thanks
[10:46] <jefersen> thats much better
[10:46] <jefersen> MonkeyDust: sweet
[10:46] <chemist^> :D lol
[10:46] <chemist^> 2 bad irc is dying in my country
[10:47] <chemist^> i used to chat through irc 15 years ago :D
[10:47] <Yawnie_> I haven't used IRC since about 2008
[10:47] <Jonathan___> i have a wireless dsl modem, is there any way i can make it connect to the network wirelessly?
[10:47] <chemist^> yeah...i had a lot of timeout too :D
[10:47] <chemist^> Jonathan___ a modem connecting to a wifi network?
[10:47] <chemist^> why would you do that?
[10:48] <Jonathan___> its a wifi modem, if i can make it see the network, then i can share the same connection
[10:49] <chemist^> Jonathan___ how many wifi users are connected to your network?
[10:49] <Jonathan___> 3
[10:49] <jefersen> Rory: so i'm trying to download this - http://www.citrix.com/downloads/citrix-receiver/linux/receiver-for-linux-130.html
[10:50] <the-noob> hi, having problem with a startup script
[10:50] <Rory> jefersen: trying to? what's stopping you?
[10:50] <Rory> !details | the-noob
[10:50] <chemist^> Rory seems like no errors
[10:50] <chemist^> Jonathan___ that means...you and 2 other ppl?
[10:50] <Rory> chemist^: OK so now if you unplug and replug your drive, can you put files on it?
[10:50] <the-noob> using Ubuntu 12.04, I've create a file in /etc/init.d/ to start Gearman and don't know how to pass extra options to daemon
[10:51] <Rory> the-noob: I strongly recommend using Upstart
[10:51] <Jonathan___> yes
[10:51] <Rory> the-noob: Here's an example https://gist.github.com/c4milo/940909
[10:51] <the-noob> it works with DAEMON=/usr/local/sbin/gearmand but I need to pass an option like -l (log) /var/log/gearman.log
[10:51] <chemist^> Rory no...neither put files onr deleting any
[10:51] <Jonathan___> if i install window 8 back on there it connects with no problem, but i am tired of windows everything!
[10:51] <the-noob> hm, ok
[10:52] <Rory> the-noob: why not then DAEMON="/usr/local/sbin/gearmand -l /var/log/gearman.log"  or am I missing something?
[10:52] <the-noob> tried that .. and it says..
[10:52] <jefersen> Rory: i get an error in the ubuntu software center, saying wrong architecture 'armel'
[10:52] <Rory> jefersen: You downloaded the ARM build
[10:52] <the-noob>  /etc/init.d/gearmand: 3: /etc/init.d/gearmand: -l: not found /n start-stop-daemon: option '--exec' requires an argument
[10:53] <jefersen> Rory: what am i supposed to dl?
[10:53] <kbni> Hi. :)
[10:53] <Rory> jefersen: What's the output of "uname -i"
[10:53] <the-noob> but I'll try upstart
[10:53] <Rory> the-noob: Did you put it in quotes? DAEMON="...
[10:53] <chemist^> Jonathan___  .... so before when u had windows installed....you could all connect simultaneously ? all 3 of you?
[10:53] <the-noob> yes
[10:53] <Jonathan___> yes
[10:53] <jefersen> Rory: x86_64
[10:54] <Rory> jefersen: That's the version you need to download, not ARM
[10:54] <Rory> jefersen: Click on "for 64 bit systems", you're looking at "form ARM processors"
[10:54] <kbni> I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction for what I want from iproute. I have two interfaces (eth0,wlan0) which are both behind a different gateway.  I want to be able to initiate connections from both. Can someone tell me what I am looking at doing here so I can look it up?
[10:55] <Yawnie_> I have a problem with Ubuntu 12.04, I can not increase or decrease the brightness of my screen. It won't work if I go into System Settings and manually change it there, nor will it work with the keyboard
[10:55] <jefersen> Rory: lol, whats that? seems beyond my knowledge
[10:56] <Rory> jefersen: usually running "some_command --help" will print a brief usage of the application. echo is a program which prints to the screen whatever you give it. so "echo --help" just print "--help" and I felt like a fool :P
[10:56] <jefersen> Rory: ohhh, lol!
[10:58] <jefersen> Rory: so i tried the 64-bit deb and i'm getting this error: Dependency is not satisfiable: ia32-libs
[10:58] <Jonathan___> does anyone have any ideas???
[10:59] <Rory> jefersen: Are you trying to install on 13.10?
[10:59] <jefersen> Rory: yes, is that a problem?
[10:59] <Rory> jefersen: It's probably expecting you to be using the LTS version, 12.04
[11:00] <jefersen> Rory: oh... so that means i can't install it?
[11:00] <Rory> jefersen: You can, but it'll be a little more complicated
[11:00] <jefersen> Rory: so on the website it says "Receiver for Linux 13.0"
[11:00] <kbni> nevermind
[11:00] <kbni> my iproute was sucky. and is sorted now. :)
[11:01] <Rory> jefersen: As in, the version of Citrix Reciever is version 13
[11:01] <chemist^> Jonathan___ there is probably a driver issue with your wifi card
[11:01] <chemist^> try using another one
[11:01] <jefersen> Rory:  oh..
[11:01] <chemist^> or download and install some fresh drivers perhaps?
[11:01] <jefersen> Rory: can you please help me install this? else i'll have to install windows...
[11:02] <Jonathan___> another card
[11:02] <Jonathan___>  or driver
[11:02] <the-noob> Rory: thanks, using upstart worked ok
[11:02] <Rory> the problem is jefersen that the .deb package has ia32-libs listed as a dependency, which hasn't been a thing for a while now
[11:02] <Jonathan___> but i can connect to my modem i just cant connect to the one thats provided for us by my landlord
[11:03] <Rory> jefersen: Hang on, did you read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CitrixICAClientHowTo#Citrix_Receiver_13.0_on_Ubuntu_13.10_64-bit
[11:03] <jefersen> Rory: as in its been discontinued on the latest versions of ubunut for whatever reason
[11:03] <Rory> jefersen: I googled "Citrix Reciever 13.0 on Ubuntu 13.10" and that was the first result
[11:03] <Rory> jefersen: you're welcome
[11:03] <jefersen> Rory: ok, let me have a go :)
[11:04] <chemist^> Rory my friend said that he gave this usb stick to a friend who formatted his computer and put windows on it..... so he might have set permissions so that only he can change the content of the stick
[11:05] <chemist^> Rory is there any way to overwrite permission settings in ubuntu?
[11:05] <Rory> chemist^: you've made a new filesystem, whatever happened in Windows is gone
[11:05] <chemist^> but i still can not modify (rename) or delete files
[11:05] <jefersen> Rory: on a separate note, is chrome only executable from terminal
[11:05] <Rory> chemist^: What happens when you try to copy a file to the drive ?
[11:05] <chemist^> the paste button is greyed out
[11:06] <chemist^> and when i check the properties button
[11:07] <chemist^> it says owner write&read
[11:08] <chemist^> and the others "forbidden"
[11:11] <Rory> chemist^: OK can you go to Disk Utility, try to format it as FAT?
[11:15] <chemist^> Rory: W95 FAT32 (Bootable)
[11:15] <chemist^> partition type
[11:15] <chemist^> as it is now
[11:15] <bcc> don't suppose there is any staff about?!
[11:15] <Rory> chemist^: it shouldn't be that now, you formatted it as ext2?
[11:16] <DJones> bcc: Freenode staff or Ubuntu irc staff?
[11:16] <Beldar> bcc, freenode or ubuntu channel?
[11:16] <bcc> Ubuntu
[11:16] <Rory> chemist^: earlier you said you tried formatting it with that tool but got a "weird error", could you reproduce that?
[11:16] <Rory> bcc: Why, what do you need?
[11:16] <chemist^> now i unmounted it
[11:16] <bcc> RT ticket needs pushing forward
[11:16] <chemist^> and format it as FAT
[11:16] <chemist^> nothing happened
[11:16] <k1l> bcc: ask in #ubuntu-irc for RT issues, thanks
[11:16] <DJones> bcc: If its an IRC issue, can you join #ubuntu-irc and give details there
[11:17] <bcc> cheers
[11:17] <chemist^> Rory Error synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for object (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[11:18] <tripp> can someone help me with a noob-ish problem? :)
[11:18] <Rory> !ask | tripp
[11:18] <Sebastien> tripp, yes, shoot.
[11:18] <troop> hi, can i install ubuntu offline, without updates?
[11:18] <Rory> chemist^: can you run: sudo mkdosfs /dev/sdc -s 128 -F 32 -I
[11:19] <Rory> troop: Yes
[11:19] <Sebastien> troop, yes.
[11:19] <Rory> chemist^: note that's /dev/sdc not /dev/sdc1
[11:19] <Rory> troop: The updates during installation are just to save time afterwards. It's not required; you can install with just the installation medium
[11:20] <subhojit777> is there any good desktop environment that will consume low resources and will also provide good interface like Unity. I have Ubuntu 13.04
[11:20] <Jordan_U> Rory: Why are you having chemist^ create a filesystem on a whole device rather than a partition?
[11:20] <troop> im asking because i dont have stable connection right now, im using quoted 3g connection :(
[11:20] <Rory> Jordan_U: I'm not.
[11:20] <Rory> Jordan_U: the -I flag will create a single partition
[11:20] <Rory> Jordan_U: man mkdosfs
[11:20] <cummseng> ive got ubuntu serve running with some directories exported with rw. I've mounted it on my client running ubuntu but the folders and files appear as if they are all owned by root:root when on the server it's owned by an account with the same username and id as the client...
[11:20] <Rory> !lubuntu | subhojit777
[11:21] <Jordan_U> Rory: That doesn't seem to be what the man page describes "-I" as doing, though it isn't the clearest language.
[11:22] <subhojit777> thanks.. I have Lubuntu but it does not provides good and easy UI like Unity. Or do I have to configure it?
[11:22] <Rory> subhojit777: you could try Xubuntu which uses XFCE
[11:22] <cummseng> subhojit777, cinnamon, xfce, lighter than unity but not lightest possible
[11:23] <tripp> case: i want to install unbutu on a laptop (i5 2.5, 8gb ram, 2gb video nvidia, 120 ssd, 750 gb sata) also want win7 on the rig.
[11:23] <Hassen> Elfy:O
[11:23] <jefersen> Rory: i've installed it but it seems like it is crashing for some reason
[11:23] <tripp>  a. should swap partition be 1-st on ssd a1. when running win7 can i use the partition for win swap?
[11:23] <subhojit777> Rory, cummseng thanks
[11:23] <Hassen> in the ubuntu live cd,there the mouse cursor is invisible :O
[11:23] <Hassen> what's that?
[11:23] <Beldar> subhojit777, lubuntu has a bit more config adjusting.
[11:24] <Jordan_U> Rory: To me it looks like the -I switch turns off mkdosfs's refusal to create a filesystem on a whole device, a reasonable refusal given that doing so is generally a bad idea. Why do you think that the -I option creates a partition table?
[11:24] <subhojit777> ok.. I guess I will try Lubuntu.. more configurable means more customizable
[11:25] <cummseng> subhojit777, you chould just apt-get install xfce, cinnamon etc before completly wiping your install
[11:25] <Rory> yes, they are synonyms
[11:25] <Rory> subhojit777: you can "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[11:26] <subhojit777> Rory, yes desktop environmentis what I am talking about. But I have identified another problem having too much de's is Ubuntu, when you select a DE in login screen you cannot scroll down and select the desired DE
[11:26] <subhojit777> I guess this is a bug, right?
[11:27] <Jordan_U> Rory: I just confirmed, -I does *not* create a partition table.
[11:28] <Jordan_U> chemist^: If you haven't already, do not run the mkdosfs command that Rory gave you. It's bad practice to make a filesystem on a whole device rather than a partition.
[11:29] <Rory> My mistake, I misread some instructions
[11:29] <Rory> chemist^: Jordan_U is correct, although it won't actually do any harm. Use the command as above, but without the -I, and use /dev/sdc1 instead of /dev/sdc
[11:32] <xtriz> when i am doing sudo update-grub my other operating system is getting detected but it's not showing up in grub
[11:32] <xtriz> how can i fix this ?
[11:33] <tripp> :|
[11:33] <prx> Hi, I just brought my laptop back from sleeping, and my secondary language disappeared, anyone aware of the issue and its solution?
[11:33] <wizard01> hi friends. where can i find a cracked copy of the linux
[11:33] <tripp> :))
[11:33] <Sebastien> wizard01 on www.ubuntu.com
[11:33] <prx> lol n1 wizard01
[11:34] <tripp> i'll try asking again
[11:34] <wizard01> plase help the blocked tpb
[11:35] <Beldar> wizard01, cracked, it's free
[11:35] <k1l> !warez | wizard01
[11:35] <motasem> hi
[11:35] <wizard01> hi motasem
[11:35] <Sebastien> !o4o
[11:35] <zacarias> Are there any performance issues if I install some kde apps (Dolphin, Gwenview)? Because of the fact that they imply the installation of a lot of kde dependencies
[11:35] <motasem> h r wizard
[11:35] <wizard01> how can we help you?
[11:35] <tripp> dual boot, unbutu and win7 - if i create swap partition on ssd (for unbutu) can i assign it as win swap when running win?
[11:36] <wizard01> yes tripp. no problem
[11:36] <k1l> tripp: no
[11:36] <tripp> can you link me please to some doc?:)
[11:38] <chemist^> Rory will do that now
[11:38] <prx> http://askubuntu.com/questions/170685/keyboard-layout-indicator-get-disappeared-after-second-login-login-after-logout
[11:38] <prx> who wants to answer this
[11:38] <prx> please.
[11:38] <Beldar> zacarias, dependencies should not cause problems the install of the apps will tell you if so
[11:39] <chemist^> Rory ok...it gave me no output
[11:39] <asad2005> I have enabled show desktop in unity tweak and now i can not remove it from panel is there away around this ?
[11:39] <chemist^> only the light on the usb stick blinked a couple of times
[11:40] <Beldar> zacarias, if you have a sub set of hardware now be careful.
[11:40] <chemist^> Jordan_U Rory what now?
[11:40] <wizard01> can i get siri if i install ubuntu
[11:40] <Rory> chemist^: Now try copying files to it
[11:40] <Rory> wizard01: No, siri is for iphones
[11:40] <wizard01> :(
[11:40] <chemist^> deleting files still doesn't work
[11:41] <chemist^> Rory nope...still greyed out
[11:41] <wizard01> Hi Guest74433 how can we help you?
[11:41] <chemist^> i tried to open the folder with nautilus as root
[11:41] <chemist^> and in the terminal i got a reply when i tried to delete a file
[11:41] <chemist^> (permission denied)
[11:42] <Jordan_U> chemist^: How did you mount the partition?
[11:42] <wizard01> you need to have permission to delete the file
[11:42] <chemist^> Jordan_U it automatically mounted when i clicked on it
[11:42] <chemist^> wizard01 yes...how? :D
[11:42] <chemist^> Jordan_U that is not the issue, cause in windows it does the same
[11:42] <chemist^> reading is flawless
[11:42] <chemist^> quick
[11:43] <chemist^> but cannot write to the disk
[11:43] <chemist^> and cannot rename or delete files
[11:43] <chemist^> cannot change permissions
[11:44] <Jordan_U> chemist^: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[11:44] <chemist^> "Could not change permissions for .... "
[11:44] <chemist^> Jordan_U when i do what?
[11:45] <Jordan_U> chemist^: Open a terminal, run "dmesg", and copy and paste the output it produces to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com .
[11:45] <chemist^> yes
[11:46] <chemist^> i know how to do that :D i thought it must be run before issuing the command with errors
[11:46] <chemist^> dmesg | pastebinit
[11:46] <chemist^> Jordan_U http://paste.ubuntu.com/6583028/
[11:49] <Jordan_U> chemist^: Well, that certainly looks like a hardware issue. If there isn't a write protect switch of some kind on the drive I think you'll just have to buy another one, though it would be interesting to see if it reports any S.M.A.R.T. status.
[11:50] <knifebunny> test it with smartctl maybe
[11:53] <iszak_> I am using this example preseed https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt and I set d-i pkgsel/upgrade select none to full-upgrade but it doesn't do anything, what should it do?
[11:53] <chemist^> i don't have any experience with smartctl
[11:53] <jefersen> I'm trying to copy a .cer file to /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla
[11:53] <chemist^> Jordan_U my guess was that it was a hardware issue since the beginning
[11:54] <chemist^> any other thing i could try to be certain?
[11:55] <jefersen> I'm trying to copy a certificate file .cer to /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla and im getting this problem - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6583053/
[11:55] <jefersen> Permission denied
[11:55] <chemist^> use the sudo command
[11:55] <chemist^> for copying the file
[11:55] <chemist^> sudo cp filename /destination/filename
[11:55] <knifebunny> chemist^: try sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX
[11:55] <chemist^> instead of X i use c1 right? :D
[11:56] <chemist^> or just c
[11:56] <iszak_> or sudo !! if it was your last command
[11:56] <knifebunny> chemist^: whichever is the disk in question, i havent followed the entire convo
[11:56] <chemist^> dev/sdc1
[11:56] <knifebunny> chemist^: but it should give you a print out of basic smart data of the drive, if you get an output then smartmontools is installed, if not you should install it and it can report about your drive, do short and long tests, etc
[11:56] <knifebunny> chemist^: just /dev/sdc as its the drive itself not the partition we are testing
[11:57] <chemist^> ok
[11:57] <chemist^> command not found :D
[11:57] <knifebunny> chemist^: try apt-get install smartmontools
[11:57] <chemist^> have to install it i guess?
[11:57] <chemist^> ok done
[11:57] <chemist^> i'll retry noow
[11:58] <chemist^> /dev/sdc: Unknown USB bridge [0x1307:0x0165 (0x100)]
[11:58] <chemist^> Smartctl: please specify device type with the -d option.
[11:59] <knifebunny> chemist^: is it a USB device ?
[11:59] <chemist^> yes
[11:59] <chemist^> an USB memory stick 8bg
[11:59] <chemist^> gb*
[11:59] <chemist^> should i unmount it first?
[11:59] <njsg> does ubuntu have any tool to unpack or read squashfs, version 2 filesystems?
[12:00] <shafox> i am on ubuntu 12.04, it freezes a lot while google chrome is open for max 10 mins. i have to hard restart every time. any solutions for this type of irritating issue ??
[12:00] <chemist^> shafox use firefox... chrome sux :D
[12:01] <chemist^> knifebunny any ideas?
[12:01] <knifebunny> chemist^: usb devices might be more difficult to test with smartctl, if its a memory stick it probably doesnt contain any smart data unlike a physical hard drive does so smartctl probably cant help you
[12:01] <chemist^> lol
[12:01] <chemist^> ok ;D
[12:01] <knifebunny> shafox: is it only when you leave google chrome open
[12:01] <chemist^> thanks anyway
[12:02] <wizard01> sorry we couln't help chemist
[12:02] <shafox> chemist^, well i am using firefox but chrome has web inspector that i need to use. firefox sucks in this regard.
[12:03] <Jordan_U> njsg: You should be able to just "sudo mount -o loop /path/to/squashfs.image /mountpoint/"
[12:03] <shafox> knifebunny, yes i guess so, i have not run google chrome for quite some time, and its working great. but as soon as i open chrome it freezes
[12:03] <shafox> :(
[12:03] <knifebunny> chemist^: i always put smartmontools on all of my systems because it can pre-emptively notify you if a drive is going bad, you need to edit config to get it to send to your preferred email though as it just delivers to "root" by default
[12:03] <chemist^> firefox has that too...
[12:03] <njsg> Jordan_U: no, that won't work
[12:03] <njsg> Jordan_U: that is squashfs version 4
[12:03] <chemist^> knifebunny it's not mine
[12:03] <Jordan_U> njsg: And it's not backwards compatible?
[12:03] <knifebunny> shafox: is using 'chromium' any different? maybe its a plugin
[12:03] <chemist^> it's owned by a friend of mine....using windows
[12:03] <shafox> chemist^, firefox's firebug is nt that great wrt to chrome's web inspector IMHO
[12:04] <chemist^> shafox ok if you say so
[12:04] <chemist^> i don't know what IMHO is :D
[12:04] <Yawnie_> Huh, Smartmontools, huh, wished I knew about that a couple weeks ago
[12:04] <shafox> knifebunny, chrome not chromium, removed every plugins still that issue arises
[12:04] <njsg> Jordan_U: no, it's not
[12:04] <Jordan_U> njsg: Where did you get a squashfs2 image from?
[12:04] <chemist^> !imho
[12:04] <njsg> Jordan_U: from a squashfs2 filesystem
[12:04] <knifebunny> will we get free beer for the help when you finally fix it, chemist^ ? haha
[12:04] <chemist^> knifebunny haha 6 pack
[12:04] <chemist^> :D
[12:04] <knifebunny> shafox: is it just the application that freezes or the entire computer?
[12:04] <shafox> IMHO: In My Honest Opinion
[12:05] <chemist^> tnx :)
[12:05] <shafox> knifebunny, the entire system.
[12:05] <njsg> shafox: actually, it is "in my humble opinion"
[12:05] <Jordan_U> njsg: What created the squashfs2 filesystem?
[12:05] <chemist^> knifebunny although...i doubt i will get the thing working again
[12:05] <shafox> njsg, thanks for correcting.
[12:05] <njsg> Jordan_U: a GNU/linux system
[12:05] <Jordan_U> njsg: What GNU/linux system?
[12:05] <njsg> Jordan_U: somehow with an older version of squashfs in the kernel, it seems
[12:05] <njsg> Jordan_U: no idea of what to call it
[12:06] <wizard01> shafox you may need a new computer
[12:06] <shafox> knifebunny, any ideas ??
[12:06] <shafox> wizard01, it was working great, until i restored it.
[12:07] <wizard01> what version did you restore?
[12:07] <knifebunny> shafox: maybe its something executing in a particular tab, does it still happen if you open it up and leave only a blank tab and nothing else ?
[12:07] <shafox> 12.04
[12:07] <wizard01> is that the same version as before?
[12:07] <knifebunny> brb
[12:07] <jefersen> anyone knows how to copy + paste a file from terminal
[12:08] <wizard01> cp
[12:08] <shafox> knifebunny, it happens when i try to open a new blank tab and a new link tab
[12:08] <shafox> wizard01, yes same version
[12:08] <wizard01> is this a fresh install or a restore from a previous backup?
[12:08] <rosco_y> How do I enable my wife to access mysql on my ubuntu machine, from her windows 8 machine?
[12:10] <shafox> wizard01, restore from a previous back up. i have dell laptop which was preinstalled with ubuntu , so i reinstalled it from the restore dvd .
[12:11] <wizard01> maybe some drivers are missing from the restore disk. you will have to telephone dell
[12:12] <shafox> like what driver ?? any specific ones /?
[12:12] <Jordan_U> njsg: Have you tried "unsquashfs" yet?
[12:12] <asad2005> How can i change the date and day format in status to be english
[12:12] <wizard01> I don't know what hardware you have
[12:12] <dhq> hey , just a lil help how to i connect using a ".ovpn" file config with open vpn in commang line
[12:13] <wizard01> shafox: best thing is to call dell
[12:13] <wizard01> they will send an engineer over to fix it for you.
[12:13] <shafox> wizard01, ok.
[12:13] <shafox> thanks anyway :)
[12:14] <CosmicB> dhq does that .ovpn have the certificates bundled with it ?
[12:14] <wizard01> my pleasure. on a scale of 1 to 10 could you please say how satisfied with ubuntu support you are. ta.
[12:14] <shafox> i am from India, i dont think they will do that here.
[12:14] <njsg> Jordan_U: yes, and that fails with errors
[12:14] <Jordan_U> njsg: Could you pastebin the error messages?
[12:14] <dhq> CosmicB: yes
[12:14] <njsg> Jordan_U: it is not clear to me whether ubuntu's version of unsquashfs is the complete thing or if it has been stripped down
[12:14] <njsg> Jordan_U: "Bus error"
[12:15] <dhq> shafox: i believe they have this service in india, i used it once
[12:15] <raub> I was upgrading a machine (12.04) and during logrotate upgrade I got
[12:15] <raub> trying to overwrite `/etc/cron.daily/logrotate', which is the diverted version of `/etc/cron.disabled/logrotate'
[12:15] <shafox> dhq, ok
[12:16] <Jordan_U> njsg: Is there any other output from unsquashfs?
[12:16] <asad2005> How do i change date format without affecting timezone?
[12:16] <CosmicB> dhq there is a way  to convert that file or something, I did something similar a couple weeks ago, can't find the link right now. But see http://askubuntu.com/questions/187511/how-can-i-use-a-ovpn-file-with-network-manager  + google 'how to conecrt .ovpn' or something, it's not that difficult
[12:16] <CosmicB> to find help
[12:16] <raub> How to fix that?
[12:17] <wizard01> raub: don't worry about it. it's a minor issue
[12:17] <dhq> CosmicB: in google i only find the entire syntax help not how to use .ovpn
[12:17] <njsg> Jordan_U: compiling it myself still results in the same thing http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=iBRWkLaa
[12:17] <njsg> but I did see something in the code that made be a bit wary...
[12:18] <CosmicB> dhq check the link I posted,
[12:18] <CosmicB> dhq look like it should support  sudo openvpn --config ~jrg/Documents/vpn-config.ovpn
[12:18] <dhq> yeah just having a look at that now :)
[12:18] <dhq> thanks
[12:18] <njsg> I seriously hope unsquashfs checks for the right endianness...
[12:18] <CosmicB> :)
[12:18] <dhq> will try it on my ddwrt when i get home
[12:19] <raub> wizard01: I dunno. I did a remove --purge and then a reinstall and got cat: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate: No such file or directory
[12:20] <raub> i.e. file went away
[12:20] <wizard01> it's a script that runs daily to rotate your logs. you may need to reinstall it
[12:21] <Jordan_U> njsg: I doubt that it will work since grub's module is named "squashfs4.mod", but I'm curious if "grub-mount /full/path/to/squashfs.img /mountpoint/" will work (I expect the grub folks to be cognisant of endianness issues).
[12:21] <raub> wizard01: I meant when i reinstalled it I got that original error and the file is gone
[12:23] <wizard01> raub: ah. did you try "apt-get -f"?
[12:23] <wizard01> raub: if that doesn't work, just don't worry about it.
[12:23] <raub> I did that that
[12:23] <wizard01> It's not a big issue anyway, just don't worry about it.
[12:23] <raub> wizard01: I actually do worry alot. The cron.d/logrotate file is not there
[12:24] <raub> I do need logrotate; I had it configured to rotate daily in a specific way
[12:24] <wizard01> just type "touch /etc/cron.daily/logroate" then "apt-get -f" and if that doesn't work just don't worry about it.
[12:24] <Jordan_U> njsg: I'm curious how this turns out. Would you mind keeping me updated?
[12:25] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> hi guys
[12:25] <wizard01> hi JoBArTe_Skuld2
[12:25] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> how to I enable VGA1 on my ubuntu?
[12:25] <rosco_y> How do I enable my wife to access mysql on my ubuntu machine, from her windows 8 machine?
[12:25] <njsg> Jordan_U: If i remember, sure, although I've given up on lurking in user support channels in freenode
[12:25] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> on liveCD, xrand shows displayport and VGA1 normally
[12:25] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> but in my ubuntu, VGA1 is missing
[12:25] <njsg> Jordan_U: did you install the correct video drivers?
[12:26] <wizard01> rosco_y just don't worry about it, your wife doesn't need acess to mysql
[12:26] <DJones> !behelpful | wizard01
[12:26] <rosco_y> wizard01: :PPP :)
[12:27] <wizard01> ubottu: I only give good advice
[12:27] <wizard01> ubottu: i didn't
[12:27] <TitoN> Hi i just bought a dell r320 server and i wanted to run a raid 1 on it so i created 1 virtual disk from the 2 disks and set it to raid 1....i install ubuntu server 12.04 lts but after completed installation to the virtualdisk it just gets stuck at loading boot device in bios
[12:28] <raub> wizard01: /usersr/sbin/logrotate is not there. Can I worry now?
[12:28] <TitoN> Should i run tje disks in achi or raid?
[12:28] <wizard01> raub: Why do you want to rotate logs anyway?
[12:28] <raub> ls: cannot access /usr/sbin/logrotate: No such file or directory
[12:29] <wizard01> raub: it causes more wear and tear on your hard disk
[12:29] <ikonia> wizard01: please stop with bad advice
[12:29] <ikonia> raub: you do not have log rotate installed
[12:29] <ikonia> raub: or you are looking in the wrong location
[12:29] <rosco_y> I should simplify--I can do the connect to mysql, what I really need is to network our machines
[12:29] <raub> ikonia: when I tried to upgrade, I got trying to overwrite `/etc/cron.daily/logrotate', which is the diverted version of `/etc/cron.disabled/logrotate'
[12:29] <rosco_y> how do I network a windows 8 machine and a ubuntu machine (both desktops)
[12:30] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> if i reinstall a xorg-server from a liveCD is a good idea?
[12:30] <wizard01> rosco_y are the plugged in together? do you know the ip addresses?
[12:30] <ikonia> raub: ok, why is that a problem ?
[12:30] <wizard01> is your firewall enabled?
[12:30] <raub> ikonia: so I tried to reinstall it.
[12:30] <raub> ikonia: I used remove --purge and then reinstalled but not it is not there anymore
[12:30] <wizard01> is mysql listening for connections from remote machines?
[12:30] <rosco_y> wizard01: Thank you I know the addresses, and my wife if connected via wireless
[12:30] <TitoN> Anyone?
[12:31] <rosco_y> I just don't even know where to start
[12:31] <ikonia> raub: actually look if the binary is there
[12:31] <raub> ikonia: ls: cannot access /usr/sbin/logrotate: No such file or directory
[12:31] <rosco_y> I've always hated networking problems until now, when it might be really helpful :(
[12:31] <wizard01> rosco_y: did you read the manual?
[12:31] <rosco_y> wizard01: no.  can you recommend one?
[12:32] <raub> ikonia: and that is after I did apt-get -f install logrotate
[12:32] <wizard01> rosco_y: no sorry
[12:32] <rosco_y> wizard01: me too :(
[12:32] <ikonia> raub: is that where the binary is meant to be ?
[12:32] <wizard01> rosco_y: just don't worry about it. Why do you want your wife to access all your data?
[12:32] <raub> according to the other machines and the package file list, yest
[12:33] <ikonia> raub: ok, so check the status of that package in the package manager
[12:33] <rosco_y> wizard01: actually, I want to write software against the db from my wife's machine--it was just an easy way to pose the question
[12:33] <jonjo> hello, can anyone help me with this? driver Linux console keyboard wanted to post scancode 90 outside of [0, 0]! ?? Think I need some form of keybindings for Xfbdev
[12:33] <jonjo> I have a custom keypad and have added the keybindings to my kernel config, the keys work with evtest
[12:33] <jonjo> http://bpaste.net/show/WZITgRNQ4yPqMYOdk4nM/
[12:33] <wizard01> rosco_y: just install it on your wifes machine
[12:33] <wizard01> job done.
[12:34] <rosco_y> wizard01: I could do that, but that kind of defeats the purpose of having a database
[12:34] <raub> ikonia: dpkg -l | grep logrotate returns nothing
[12:34] <ikonia> rosco_y: what's actually stopping you - what's the problem you are facing,
[12:34] <ikonia> rosco_y: then it's not installed
[12:34] <ikonia> rosco_y: sorry that was for rosco_y u
[12:34] <ikonia> raub
[12:34] <ikonia> raub: then it's not installed
[12:35] <rosco_y> ikonia: ty, my problem is that I don't know where to begin networking the machines -- apology accepted :))
[12:35] <ikonia> rosco_y: are they currently networked out side of mysql, yes/no
[12:35] <raub> ikonia: apt-get -f install logrotate is not installing it
[12:35] <imghost> !logrotate
[12:35] <ikonia> raub: why are you using -f
[12:36] <rosco_y> ikonia: no, if they were networked, I believe my problems would be solved
[12:36] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> how to I enable VGA1 on my ubuntu? on liveCD, xrand shows displayports and VGA1 normally, but in my ubuntu, show only displayports, but lshw show all VGA cards
[12:36] <rosco_y> I just want a nudge in the correct direction
[12:36] <ikonia> rosco_y: ok, so you'll need to either directly connect them together via a cat5 cable with rj45 connection, or via a switch/router/hub
[12:36] <raub> ikonia: just in case there is a file it is not able to overwrite or something. But, here is without -f : http://pastie.org/private/nghgmb8xiclun1rydbosg
[12:37] <rosco_y> ikonia: just connecting via wireless from windows 8 machine to router that I'm using on ubuntu side doesn't work?
[12:37] <rosco_y> I do have a router, but I've never used it
[12:37] <ikonia> raub: I have no browser access at the moment so can't read that, but I'm guessing you have an error
[12:37] <ikonia> rosco_y: ok, so connect the other machine to the same router
[12:37] <raub> It is just the original error thingie
[12:37] <ikonia> rosco_y: bang - you're done
[12:37] <ikonia> raub: so fix the error, -f is not a magic "fix all"
[12:37] <raub> I did not want to fill the channel with the output of running apt-get install logrotate
[12:38] <raub> ikonia: how to fix the error then
[12:38] <rosco_y> ikonia: I don't have the router connected, would I have to run a ethernet cable from her machine to the router?
[12:38] <raub> THe error is dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/logrotate_3.7.8-6ubuntu5_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[12:38] <raub>  trying to overwrite `/etc/cron.daily/logrotate', which is the diverted version of `/etc/cron.disabled/logrotate'
[12:38] <ikonia> rosco_y: just connect the second machien to the router, via cable or wifi, whatever you want
[12:38] <ikonia> rosco_y: "directed" ?
[12:38] <raub> ikonia: and that is enough for it not to install logortate
[12:38] <ikonia> rosco_y: sorry not you
[12:38] <imghost> raub, your machine is 64bit?
[12:39] <ikonia> raub: what do you mean the "diverted" ?
[12:39] <raub> imghost: yep
[12:39] <raub> ikonia: that is what the error message says, not me
[12:39] <ikonia> raub: is the file /etc/cron.daily/logrotate there ?
[12:39] <Jordan_U> njsg: Have you tried grub-mount yet?
[12:39] <rosco_y> ikonia: I'm confused--how would I connect Windows 8 to router via wifi?
[12:39] <ikonia> rosco_y: you said you are already connected to it
[12:40] <njsg> Jordan_U: looking at strace, the error seems to be in a memory area allocated by unsquashfs, not in the file. as in, it does not seem to be an error a bad file could cause
[12:40] <njsg> unless they are trusting random values from the file
[12:40] <rosco_y> ikonia: I understand, I meant to say "I have a router", not that "I am using a router"
[12:40] <raub> ikonia: nope because I did a purge first
[12:40] <ikonia> rosco_y: how are you currently connected to the internet
[12:41] <ikonia> raub: make that file then - or reboot to make sure your package clean up is finished
[12:41] <rosco_y> ikonia: my bad, I was thinking of a switch I think--yes, I am using a router
[12:41] <raub> ikonia: I tried adding manually the file but that did not work. SO I am rebooting
[12:42] <rosco_y> it's a linksys 2.4 type thingie
[12:42] <ikonia> rosco_y: ok, so connect the other machine to it then
[12:42] <ikonia> rosco_y: and you're done
[12:42] <Jordan_U> njsg: Have you tried grub-mount yet?
[12:42] <njsg> Jordan_U: yes, fails, "unknown filesystem"
[12:43] <rosco_y> it is connected, in that it can get on the internet using it, should I now be able to see her machine from ubuntu?
[12:43] <ikonia> rosco_y: correct
[12:43] <rosco_y> (and visa-versa)
[12:44] <rosco_y> cool--but we have to join a common network, is that correct?
[12:44] <ikonia> rosco_y: you are on a common network if you both connect to the same router
[12:45] <rosco_y> ikonia: this is comming across as being way too easy--how do I "see" her computer from my ubuntu?
[12:45] <njsg> if you connect to the internet, you end up being in a common network either way
[12:45] <njsg> unless your ISP does some weird NAT thing
[12:45] <ikonia> rosco_y: what ever application you want,
[12:46] <rosco_y> wow, I'm way out in a haze, and I can't find the shore here
[12:46] <rosco_y> is there a terminal command that would list the windows pc?
[12:46] <ikonia> rosco_y: don't worry about that - just "use" the machine
[12:47] <ikonia> rosco_y: connect how you want to connect, using the applications you want,
[12:47] <rosco_y> ikonia: thank you, I'll work with that for a while ::))
[12:49] <raffy> hi flood
[12:49] <raffy> help me?
[12:49] <ikonia> raffy: ask an ubuntu question ?
[12:49] <rosco_y> ikonia: I thought of telnet, but that would only open up access to the db on ubuntu inside of the command shell, correct?
[12:50] <rosco_y> oh, I think the lights are turning on now
[12:50] <raffy> help me with peppermint
[12:50] <raffy> ...
[12:50] <rosco_y> I'll just use my ubuntu ip address within my code, when connect to mysql
[12:50] <ikonia> raffy: peppermint is not ubuntu
[12:50] <rosco_y> ikonia: thank you very much--this does give me something to work with :)
[12:50] <k1l> raffy: please see the peppermint support. this is plain ubuntu support
[12:51] <ikonia> rosco_y: no problem
[12:54] <raffy> help me with peppermint?
[12:54] <ikonia> raffy: "no" - this channel is for ubuntu support ONLY
[12:54] <ikonia> raffy: please don't ask again
[12:55] <k1l> raffy: http://peppermintos.net/  that is the peppermint support. ask there
[12:55] <raffy> peppermint comes from ubuntu, my problem is that it does not turn off the computer ....
[12:55] <jirido> Hi i read this : Growl For Linux supports some display plugins. For linux, you can use NotifyOSD as display to notify the Growl. I understand it as notify-osd can be made to call growl whom then display the popup? or is it the other way
[12:56] <DJones> raffy: This channel only deals with the official releases of Ubuntu, for 3rd party variants, you'll need to contact their own support networks
[12:58] <anasx> Hi All!
[12:58] <lyh> hi
[12:58] <oswin> Hi all, can someone tell me how I can disable tracker-store on a specific disk ?
[12:59] <raffy> I am a programmer with the ability to hackers, how do you solve the problem with ubuntu
[12:59] <raffy> ?
[12:59] <raub> ikonia: I rebooted and still have the same issue
[13:00] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> how to I enable VGA1 on my ubuntu? on liveCD, xrand shows displayports and VGA1 normally, but in my ubuntu, show only displayports, but lshw show all VGA cards
[13:01] <k1l> JoBArTe_Skuld2: which video card? (maybe a hybrid card?)
[13:01] <ikonia> raub: you need to fix the package manager then
[13:01] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> k1l, I have onboard and offboard VGA
[13:02] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> this is runs normally a days ago
[13:02] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> but in one update, the VGA1 not found
[13:02] <raub> ikonia: how to do so?
[13:02] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> lshw shows normally both cards
[13:02] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> but xrandr shows only 2 display ports from offboard VGA
[13:02] <k1l> JoBArTe_Skuld2: which cards? it is a lot easier to help if you are specific
[13:03] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> k1l, I will get here
[13:03] <ikonia> raub: your going to have to work terror as unil I get web access it's going ot be hard for us to share data
[13:03] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> k1l, https://gist.github.com/joubertredrat/7986653
[13:04] <raub> ikonia: I understand. Imight have to goback to the 10.04 snapshot then
[13:04] <ikonia> raub: that seems huge overkill
[13:05] <k1l> JoBArTe_Skuld2: i am not familiar with amd video cards. but install the fglrx and that should work with both cards. then use the catalyst control thing to use the vga
[13:06] <raub> ikonia: you do not know where I work
[13:06] <ikonia> raub: don't see how that matters
[13:06] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> k1l, but fglrx can control both VGAs?
[13:06] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> I was mind if i reinstall xorg by liveCD solves the problem :(
[13:07] <k1l> JoBArTe_Skuld2: most times the vga/hdmi are cabled to the dedicated video card
[13:07] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:08] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> k1l, I will try here
[13:13] <zacarias> What do I need to do so that dolphin (and other kde apps) use the system-wide icons, instead of oxygen?
[13:13] <killer> hey , where can i ask ubuntu dev questions
[13:13] <oswin> btw, I was wondering about what is done in Ubuntu to improve user experience with trackpads on notebooks : is there something planned or will this be improved with Mir ?
[13:13] <Rory> oswin: what do you mean?
[13:14] <Rory> oswin: you mean hardware support?
[13:16] <oswin> Rory, trackpad configuration is actually a real pain, no other choice than configuring manually xinput, no way to have a smooth scrolling, no possible differentiation of mouse or trackpad, no touchscreen support (I mean software, like using a touchscreen should make scroll a webpage like a tablet instead of selecting text like a mouse)
[13:16] <oswin> Rory, for me it's a very big default for ubuntu usage on laptops
[13:17] <Rory> oswin: Hmm, I've not found that. There's a GUI for configuration in the system settings
[13:17] <Rory> oswin: to configure sensitivity, change scrolling type etc
[13:17] <Rory> There's work being done on touch though
[13:18] <Rory> The trackpad on my Thinkpad works as expected, including two-finger scrolling
[13:18] <oswin> Rory, yes, but with very limited possibilities : there not even a way to specify a scrolling by pixel size (instead of number of lines)
[13:18] <Rory> That would be an application setting though
[13:18] <Rory> firefox etc
[13:19] <oswin> Rory, touchscreen works very good out of box, but only the bottom layer (driver)
[13:22] <oswin> Rory, I would love a kind of "input manager" UI taht allows to make a lot of things, like choosing which device you want as input (trackpad, trackpoint, mouse, touchscreen, webcam) with highly customisable parameters for each and global behaviour (like opening the launcher one some specific gestures)
[13:22] <Rory> oswin: Do you know Python?
[13:22] <TitoN> Trying to install ubuntu server on a dell poweredge r320. It installs fine but it hangs before ubuntu get a chance to load
[13:22] <Rory> TitoN: Can you select a recovery option from the Grub boot menu?
[13:22] <oswin> Rory, mmmh just a bit, why ?
[13:22] <TitoN> I got discs in achi running raid1.....should i set discs to raid instead of achi?
[13:23] <TitoN> I dont even see grub
[13:23] <TitoN> It sits on looking for units to load
[13:23] <Rory> TitoN: That's 100% a hardware thing, yes if you're using RAID you need to configure your raid card correctly and make sure the boot device is correct
[13:23] <killer> hey , where can i ask ubuntu dev questions
[13:24] <TitoN> I created a virtual disc but i guess that was wrong
[13:24] <TitoN> H310
[13:24] <Rory> TitoN: You might get more specific answers in #ubuntu-server
[13:24] <TitoN> thank you
[13:25] <Rory> killer: #ubuntu-app-devel
[13:26] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> k1l, don't work :(
[13:32] <cariveri> hi:) How to burn a audio disk plus data files?
[13:35] <diverdude> Hey there, does any of you guys run ubuntu on a lenovo X1 carbon?
[13:36] <cariveri> only lenovo E135
[13:36] <Rory> cariveri: I believe it has to be one or the other
[13:36] <Rory> !anyone | diverdude
[13:37] <diverdude> does anybody like to use lenovo X1 carbon with linux?
[13:37] <Rory> diverdude: I doubt that's your question
[13:38] <Rory> diverdude: Why do you want to know? What actual support question do you have?
[13:38] <Lunar_Lamp> !gq | diverdude
[13:38] <Rory> !details | diverdude
[13:38] <Lunar_Lamp> (for example, you might be asking: "is the lenovo x1 carbon fully comatible with linux?" or "has anyone managed to get the wireless card working on my..." )
[13:39] <diverdude> Rory: i dont have a question. I just want to know if ubuntu is running smoothly on that machine or if it have quirks with controlling CPU fan or utilizing graphic card or enabling the fingerprint or other dead annoying issues which ubuntu had with my previous lenovo
[13:39] <Rory> diverdude: I can't vouch for that exact laptop, why don't you google the model and the word "ubuntu"? a lack of results is probably a good thing because it means people aren't posting problems ;)
[13:39] <Rory> diverdude: However, I have a Thinkpad and it's flawless
[13:41] <osbinHD> good morning :) probably :) im a new in linux and got problem like that
[13:41] <osbinHD> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[13:41] <osbinHD> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[13:41] <osbinHD> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[13:41] <osbinHD> osbin@osbin-Compaq-Presario-CQ71-Notebook-PC:~$
[13:41] <jrib> osbinHD: you should show the line right before
[13:42] <Rory> osbinHD: In future, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste multiple lines, it avoids spamming the channel. what command did you run to produce that error?
[13:42] <Rory> osbinHD: That can happen when the update manager, or software centre are running, can you check that both of those are closed
[13:43] <oswin> diverdude, I have severall freinds that have experienced ubuntu on X1 carbon : seems to have a very poor trackpad support. No idea about fingerprint and wifi  and graphics semmed to work well
[13:43] <oswin> diverdude, No idea about fingerprint but wifi  and graphics semmed to work well
[13:44] <Rory> diverdude: Generally there's very few laptops where Ubuntu simply won't work; the hardest thing you might have to deal with is wifi
[13:44] <uduyy> Hi all, how are you. Newbie Ubuntu user here
[13:45] <Rory> Hello uduyy
[13:45] <raub> Talking about laptops, how do I get pen pressure to work under gimp in a X61 running 13.04?
 try to restart
[13:45] <frog_> Hi.  And when is there a program that can work a stack?
 one moment mate
[13:45] <osbinHD> brb
[13:46] <Rory> raub: Try installing wacomcpl
[13:48] <raub> Rory: I believe I installed it but must have missed something. I will check it later
[13:48] <zaphodis42> hello, can I know if it is possible to install Ubuntu Desktop and Server on the same computer?
[13:49] <geirha> zaphodis42: quite possible
 nothing changed
[13:49] <DJones> zaphodis42: Yes, you can dual boot between them quite easily, or install Desktop and then run Ubuntu Server in virtual box
[13:49] <lilix> hi
[13:50] <zaphodis42> Alright, I'll check that. Thank you!
[13:50] <geirha> zaphodis42: or use the same install for both
[13:50] <Pici> zaphodis42: Server and Desktop are the same OS with different default packages.
[13:50] <Rory> osbin: Nothing changed... after you did what?
[13:50] <osbin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6583484/ here is lines
 closed all porgrams
[13:51] <Amijai> hey
[13:51] <Pici> osbin: you need to prefix your command with sudo
[13:51] <rosco_y> Can I disable internet access on a ubuntu machine so I can let my 4 year old daughter play on it?
[13:51] <Amijai> I need urgent assistance!
[13:51] <Rory> !ask | Amijai
 thanx :) thats all :) i did it
[13:52] <Amijai> I started to install ubuntu on a computer with Win7 on it and almost deleted the whole disk by choosing Linux Swap for the entire HD
[13:52] <oswin> Damn how can I stop tracker-store ?
[13:52] <rosco_y> (I want to create an account for her, in which the computer doesn't have internet access when using that account.)
[13:53] <Rory> Amijai: Did it already apply those partition changes?
[13:53] <Rory> Amijai: IE have you already clobbered your disk?
[13:53] <Amijai> I was able to recover using TestDisk, but now when i enter sudo /fdisk -l it shows the partition ID as 7 but when I try to install it shows as Linux Swap
[13:53] <Rory> Amijai: Can you put your sudo fdisk -l output on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:54] <Amijai> Rory, I did, but I was able to recover and boot to Windowa 7
[13:55] <rosco_y> so rephrased: Can I disable internet access on a single account
[13:56] <rosco_y> (Question marks included at extra cost)
[13:56] <Amijai> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6583524/
[13:56] <oswin> rosco_y, yes it is possible, search the internet for a complete answer, like : http://askubuntu.com/questions/102005/disable-networking-for-specific-users
[13:57] <rosco_y> oswin: thank you very much!
[13:58] <oswin> rosco_y, or others here : https://www.google.ch/search?q=ubuntu+disable+internet+access&oq=ubuntu+disable+internet+access&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3.8793j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&qscrl=1#q=ubuntu+disable+internet+access+user&qscrl=1
[13:59] <uduyy> Do people really ask here before googling it? Wow
[13:59] <uduyy> I thought questions here are the most difficult ones
[13:59] <wildon> n guidance on chat for python
[13:59] <Pici> wildon: #python
[14:00] <wildon> checking news
[14:00] <Amijai> how do i paste a PNG of what I get in GParted
[14:00] <Amijai> ?
[14:00] <Rory> Amijai: Take a screenshot, upload to imgur.com
[14:01] <Amijai> Rory, did you see the fdisk post?
[14:01] <Rory> Amijai: Did it have my name on the same line?
[14:01] <Rory> Otherwise, no, cos I'm in a few channels and only really watch my highlight log
[14:01] <rosco_y> oswin: Thank you very much--both of your links are huge :)
[14:02] <Rory> rosco_y: http://rory.sh:41443/46W
[14:03] <Amijai> Rory, http://i.imgur.com/5lIZDjp.png
[14:03] <Rory> OK Amijai what you should do is right click the swap, select disable swap
[14:03] <Rory> Amijai: Then right-click it and select delete
[14:04] <Rory> Amijai: Then, you can use the Ubuntu installer, and select the Guided Partioning option to install into the free space
[14:04] <Amijai> Rory, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6583563/
[14:04] <Rory> Amijai: Reboot in-between actually
[14:05] <Amijai> Rory, Thanks, I have to step out for a10 mins, brb
[14:09] <mhm5000> Hi
[14:12] <Mehrzad> Hi
[14:14] <Mehrzad> From what I understand from the ubuntu installation guide it requires a disk re-partitioning before installation. Is it true?
[14:15] <wildon> hi
[14:18] <raub> What is the file /var/cache/apt/archives/lock for?
[14:19] <gordonjcp> raub: what is any lock file for?
[14:19] <raub> i mean, if it is the lock file for apt, shouldn't it be deleted after it rans?
[14:19] <Beldar> raub, If you have two installers open it will lock, or stop a install while running.
[14:20] <raub> Alos, its date is Dec  7  2011
[14:20] <Rallias> Is it just me or is packages.ubuntu.com offline right now?
[14:20] <raub> Rallias: you are not the only one
[14:20] <geirha> Rallias: the file itself is not a lock. First one to open the file gets the lock
[14:21] <Rallias> geirha, Check your tabcom
[14:21] <geirha> Rallias: err, sorry
[14:21] <Rallias> It's okay.
[14:21] <raub> geirha: shouldn't it report a more current date then?
[14:22] <geirha> raub: the modification time of the file means nothing in that regard. It never gets modified.
[14:23] <raub> Ok
[14:23] <Aikar> Hi - I just got a SLI setup, trying to run triple head (Friend sold me his build really cheap, couldnt pass it up). I'm having trouble enabling xinerama. I can get the login screen fine, but logging in hangs with black screen and mouse cursor. Starting X from TTY does same and last line printed is loading extension NV-CONTROL. Ive even tried using the nvidia-331 drivers, and modified Xorg.conf to have SLI=On and MultiGPU=On too, same problem
[14:24] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:24] <R4v3n> hi
[14:24] <R4v3n> does anyone know a good alternative to subsonic, someone here recommended me that software because i want to stream music from HTPC > WAN > 3G > Google Nexus 4
[14:25] <R4v3n> BUT i found out now that Subsonic has started taking payment for their "premium" after 30 day usage
[14:25] <R4v3n> http://www.subsonic.org/pages/premium.jsp
[14:25] <R4v3n> and im wondering if anyone know a better alternative? alternatively if it's not for the Linux plattform ?
[14:27] <raub> So, back to my logrotate question, shouldn't i see files in /var/cache/apt/archives? http://pastie.org/private/yidymjsh2h4eyavnxxw8a
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> R4v3n  is that a media player?
[14:28] <zump> i cant access port.ubuntu.com on ubuntu arm.. help
[14:29] <R4v3n> MonkeyDust: well it's more of a music streaming server
[14:29] <geirha> raub: move away the files it complains about
[14:29] <R4v3n> MonkeyDust: what i want to do, is to stream my .mp3 library over the internet to my Google Nexus 4
[14:29] <R4v3n> i already tried music player daemon (MPD) but it's not efficient for me
[14:29] <R4v3n> i get poor performance with the software
[14:30] <wildon> i want to get python chnl
[14:30] <k1l_> zump: maybe the servers are down. just wait a bit
[14:30] <Pici> wildon: /join #python
[14:30] <Aikar> Hi - I just got a SLI setup, trying to run triple head (Friend sold me his build really cheap, couldnt pass it up). I'm having trouble enabling xinerama. I can get the login screen fine, but logging in hangs with black screen and mouse cursor. Starting X from TTY does same and last line printed is loading extension NV-CONTROL. Ive even tried using the nvidia-331 drivers, and modified Xorg.conf to have SLI=On and MultiGPU=On too, same problem
[14:31] <Pici> wildon: you need to be registered and identified to join though.
[14:31] <Pici> !register | wildon
[14:31] <Pici> R4v3n: mpd can output to shoutcast.
[14:31] <R4v3n> Pici: well that's also an alternative to set up a shoutcast server
[14:31] <R4v3n> Pici: but then again it's a disadvantage for me to radio stream out my music library, subsonic would be gold worth
[14:32] <R4v3n> the thing is im wondering if their premium license "destroys" the abillity to play what song i ever like from my library on my phone when outside somewhere
[14:32] <Amijai> I'll try again: I have a 320GB HD with Win7 on the entire disk. I booted from an Ubuntu LiveUSB to install Ubuntu along side Windows. I chose the  partition and set it as Swap by mistake and hit continue. I realized the mistake and stopped it. I ran TestDisk in CLI and scanned the HD. It found the NTFS partition. I changed the type from D (Deleted) to P (Primary). I saved the changes. I copied the backup boot sector and rebooted. Windows work
[14:32] <Amijai> s just fine. I booted to Ubuntu LiveUSB again. I chose "Something Else and the partition shows a linx swap. When I list the partition in a terminal it shows as NTFS. I want to resize the partition to make room for Ubuntu. Can't. Ideas?!
[14:33] <Amijai> fdisk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6583563/
[14:33] <neyder_> hi there, how can I instalas dnsmasq server on ubuntu 12.04
[14:33] <neyder_> apt-get install dnsmasq gives me that this packages doesnt exists and it's replaced by dnmasq-base
[14:33] <Amijai> GParted: http://i.imgur.com/5lIZDjp.png
[14:34] <raub> geirha: ls /etc/cron.*/logrotate shows no files
[14:35] <bsdbandit> im trying to set up users to authenticate to active directory using kerbose keytab file when trying to ssh into my servers im getting the following errors now  ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[14:35] <Beldar> Amijai, I would pull out what you need from the windows install and reinstall it, having it read differently like that is not good.
[14:35] <wildon> i need too no how to use feedparser
[14:35] <geirha> raub: Odd. In that case the error message is very misleading
[14:35] <mhm5000__> @Mehrzad
[14:35] <Amijai> Beldar, But it works in windows
[14:35] <mhm5000__> I have SSH problem
[14:36] <mhm5000__> anybody could help?
[14:36] <Amijai> Beldar, Only the GUI partitioning apps see it as Swap
[14:36] <Beldar> Amijai, sure, do what you want but I would reinstall.
[14:37] <Beldar> Amijai, You should have an image of that windows anyway.
[14:37] <mhm5000__>
[14:37] <mhm5000__>
[14:37] <mhm5000__>
[14:37] <FloodBot1> mhm5000__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:37] <Amijai> Beldar, How do I create an image?
[14:38] <Mehrzad> What's the benefits of installing on ext4 against ntfs?
[14:38] <k1l_> Mehrzad: ubuntu is designed to work on ext filesystem.
[14:38] <Amijai> Beldar, Is it possible to use dd to copy the partition, repartition the drive and put the copy back?
[14:38] <DJones> Mehrzad: NTFS is useless for Linux, it doesn't have the appropriate permissions, so its not likely to work very well (if at all)
[14:38] <Beldar> Amijai, many ways, acronis has a free one, you get one free one on any windows 7 install up to pro where you can do as many as you want, many cloners out there.
[14:38] <Mehrzad> k1l_: meaning it works faster on it?
[14:39] <Mehrzad> DJones: Ah
[14:39] <k1l_> Mehrzad: it measn you dont get a ton of problem s on it
[14:39] <Mehrzad> k1l_: ah
[14:40] <haxxpop> can ubuntu 10.10 still run command "sudo apt-get update" ?
[14:40] <wildon> yes
[14:40] <k1l_> haxxpop: nope
[14:40] <DJones> haxxpop: No, its EOL so the repositories won't exist anymore
[14:40] <wildon> how do i code in python
[14:40] <k1l_> haxxpop: its not supported since quite a while now. so better make a plan for a new install of a still supported ubuntu version, like 12.04 or 13.10
[14:41] <Mehrzad> between 12.04 LTS and 13.10 which would you recommend for installation?
[14:41] <_KryDos_> hello guys. Please tell where I can find the input field into "Friends" application? :D I can't find it
[14:41] <Mehrzad> k1l_: Thanks
[14:41] <k1l_> Mehrzad: depends on your needs. LTS got 5 year support., the others need  to be updated at least every 9 month
[14:42] <haxxpop> is there a way to install new version by using SSH ?
[14:42] <Mehrzad> Well, then 12.04
[14:42] <k1l_> !eolupgrade | haxxpop
[14:44] <mohamednaija> The exit status code '126' says something went wrong:
[14:44] <mohamednaija> stderr: "sh: 1
[14:44] <fonzy> h
[14:46] <neyder_> hi, in 12.04 how can I make when I share my internet connection (shared network in NM) clientes see my computer as an local domain called SERVER intead an odd ip number <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:46] <benyoussef666> hfljg
[14:47] <neyder_> i'm trying to use dnsmasq, but it isn't installable trought apt-get , so i don't know how can I do that
[14:47] <benyoussef666> dnsmask
[14:47] <rantic1> g
[14:48] <mohamednaija> bonjour, j'ai un pb avec le bundle Knp_Snappy
[14:48] <Pici> !fr | mohamednaija
[14:48] <somsip> So I've used 'set -o vi' for ages and it works fine, but it's not in .bashrc, .bash_aliases or .profile. Where else could I have set this??
[14:50] <mmazing> i've recently built qemu 1.6.1 from scratch on ubuntu 12.04, and now my virt-manager says that my KVM module isn't loaded or that qemu isn't installed
[14:51] <mmazing> lsmod | grep kvm yields "kvm" and "kvm_amd" but virt-manager can't seem to see it
[14:51] <`compdoc> mmazing, from scratch? what does that mean?
[14:51] <phunyguy> mmazing, is there a possible group you have to be a member of?
[14:52] <mmazing> from scratch meant that i didn't use apt to install it, i compiled the latest version
[14:52] <mmazing> phunyguy: it was working before this so i don't think it's a group issue and i'm running it as root, i had to upgrade the version for unrelated reasons
[14:53] <phunyguy> ok, was just a thought.  Good luck.
[14:53] <mmazing> well, i compiled 1.6.1, 1.7.0 is out so i might try upgrading to that one
[14:53] <mmazing> phunyguy: thanks
[14:53] <raub> mmazing: I thought to be easier to build you rown package than installing from source
[14:54] <mmazing> oh, i've never made a package, i usually just "./configure" "make" "make install" when available
[14:54] <raub> You are still using the version you want but keep all dependencies happy
[14:55] <Mehrzad> Does ubuntu installer have partition editor?
[14:55] <DJones> Mehrzad: Yes it does
[14:55] <mmazing> Mehrzad: try
[14:55] <raub> mmazing: did you remove the original ubontu package before compilion your own?
[14:55] <neyder_> Mehrzad, yes just use advanced parttion
[14:55] <DJones> !gparted | Mehrzad
[14:55] <mmazing> raub: no :\ i guess i should try to clean it off and try again?
[14:55] <iszak_> Does anyone use Ubuntu 13.10 as a production server?
[14:56] <iszak_> Because it's short EOL and all
[14:56] <mmazing> iszak_: personally, i will only use LTS releases for production / or even development for that matter
[14:56] <DJones> iszak_: Probably some do, although I'd expect most people running servers to stick with LTS releases for production servers
[14:56] <raub> DJones: it depends on what you want to do. I believe you can reach parted
[14:56] <raub> iszak_: I second what the others said; just use LTS for servers
[14:56] <iszak_> DJones: mmazing that's what I thought.. but I want newer packages e.g. Apache 2.4
[14:56] <phunyguy> iszak_, it all depends on if you have a valid reason to, I guess.
[14:56] <Mehrzad> And it can format the parition I want with ext4 and for swap?
[14:57] <raub> I have a few 11.10 boxes that are being a pain int he ass because of that
[14:57] <iszak_> and I could use a PPA but I guess I don't trust the maintainer.
[14:57] <phunyguy> iszak_, it is possible the PPA maintainer also maintains the 13.10 packages
[14:57] <phunyguy> just a thought.
[14:57] <raub> Mehrzad: thebwtdefault installer will aloow you to do that
[14:57] <so_> hi all, i have probleme with wifi, when i try to connect the systeme aske me mdp (wpa) and when i write and click ok, the message reappaires but the mdp is good, so i don't know how resolv that (sorry for my english)
[14:57] <iszak_> phunyguy: perhaps.. still a risk.
[14:57] <mmazing> iszak_: is there some specific functionality that you want from apache 2.4?
[14:57] <raub> just tell it to do custom or whatever
[14:58] <iszak_> mmazing: some of the modules + async IO
[14:58] <Mehrzad> raub: Thanks
[14:58] <phunyguy> raub, please try to keep language clean as well.  Thanks
[14:58] <phunyguy> :)
[14:58] <RockingRocker> hey
[14:58] <RockingRocker> i need halp
[14:58] <phunyguy> RockingRocker, what can we do for you?
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> RockingRocker  let's hear it
[14:59] <RockingRocker> I am downloading Ubuntu dor the 1st time
[14:59] <RockingRocker> and i want to know how to do all teh stuff
[14:59] <RockingRocker> and since my PC is brand new
[14:59] <RockingRocker> i'm a bit worried x)
[14:59] <raub> Mehrzad left; i worder if the desktop allows you to do partition the same way you do in the server install
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> RockingRocker  so what's your suestion
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> qestion*
[15:00] <phunyguy> RockingRocker, before the Floodbots get in an uproar, try not to use the enter key so much.  :)
[15:00] <RockingRocker> Is ubuntu 13 safe to install and won't harm my pc?
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> RockingRocker  it's safe
[15:00] <phunyguy> RockingRocker, define safe
[15:00] <mmazing> raub: do you think apt-get remove <package> will be sufficient since i did make install without removing it before?
[15:00] <phunyguy> !manual | RockingRocker
[15:00] <RockingRocker> You mean like I can install it and just ley it go and it will work like a charm?
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> RockingRocker  safer than that OS from Redmond (i forget the name)
[15:00] <RockingRocker> Debian?
[15:01] <yash069> RockingRocker: is it came with Win8 preinstalled
[15:01] <yash069> ?
[15:01] <yash069> i mean did it come
[15:01] <RockingRocker> Win 7 updated to Win 8 then 8.1
[15:01] <raub> mmazing: I dunno, but you could try to forget reinstall (-f) and then remove. And then compile your own stuff. I am just owrried that there are conflicts here
[15:02] <yash069> okay, does it have UEFI ?
[15:02] <mike-irssi> RockingRocker: Debian is to Ubuntu as Microsoft is to Windows
[15:02] <RockingRocker> bcuz i know afriend that installed ubuntu 12 and it screwed his PC up and had to buy a new one
[15:02] <iszak_> mmazing: DJones raub what are peoples thoughts on using Ubuntu and Debian together? and use whatever is the latest inbetween cycles?
[15:02] <k1l_> RockingRocker: just use your brain when it comes to the formating and repartionating section in the installer. if you tell the installer to use the whole disk it will erase windows
[15:02] <k1l_> RockingRocker: that is a lie. ubuntu cant harm the pc, that its not working anymore
[15:02] <RockingRocker> okay thank you guys :D
[15:03] <mike-irssi> RockingRocker: thank Debra and Ian ;)
[15:03] <RockingRocker> but is GRUB2 compatible with win8
[15:03] <RockingRocker> ,
[15:03] <mmazing> iszak_: i'm not sure i understand, do you mean switch distros as they come out?
[15:03] <k1l_> RockingRocker: yes
[15:03] <iszak_> mmazing: well if say Ubuntu 12.04 is out then Debian 7 is released I'd use Debian 7 until Ubuntu 14.04 comes out
[15:03] <RockingRocker> Ok because i red a forum where a guy could not see GRUB2 coming up
[15:04] <RockingRocker> last minute of wait until Linux ;)
[15:04] <yash069> RockingRocker: emm, because he had UEFI
[15:04] <RockingRocker> and I don't?
[15:04] <k1l_> iszak_: there is a new ubuntu every 6 months. i would not change in that time
[15:05] <RockingRocker> but i have Win8
[15:05] <iszak_> k1l_: I'm talking LTS
[15:05] <RockingRocker> Can I use pendrive linux to put the iso on my thumb drive?
[15:05] <mmazing> iszak_: i've never tried to switch distros on a running environment, but i'm sure there are people here who have :)
[15:05] <RockingRocker> (Ubuntu 13.10)
[15:05] <k1l_> iszak_: ubuntu and debian differ in quite a lot issues. you can switch, but i dont think that is an advantage
[15:06] <iszak_> mmazing: not on a running environment, but for any new servers.
[15:06] <iszak_> k1l_: well I use an abstract layer for provisioning (puppet) so I'm not sure I'd notice it as much
[15:06] <iszak_> Seems like a pain though.
[15:06] <yash069> !UEFI | RockingRocker
[15:06] <k1l_> iszak_: and even LTS gets updates with enablement stack etc
[15:06] <iszak_> k1l_: they get security fixes, not new versions.
[15:07] <RockingRocker> ok thank you
[15:07] <mmazing> iszak_: i would just worry about introducing changes and bugs that you don't know about when doing sweeping system changes like that
[15:07] <k1l_> iszak_: read about the enablement stack, please
[15:08] <gustav___> Having some packet loss with an USB NIC. Any ideas?
[15:08] <iszak_> k1l_: it's not the kernal or X stacks I care for.
[15:08] <mmazing> gustav__: has the computer been in sleep mode or suspended?
[15:08] <gustav___> mmazing: No.
[15:09] <Tuxguy> Where can I get the -ugly-multiverse repo from?
[15:09] <gvikaskc> \server irc.dal.net
[15:10] <gvikaskc> sorry
[15:10] <RockingRocker> ok time has come, i now have linux on my usb :D
[15:11] <RockingRocker> brb when installation is done
[15:11] <mmazing> gustav__: just to make sure, have you restarted? sometimes i get weird network issues that are fixed by a reboot
[15:11] <Tuxguy> This app needs gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse, but I can't find that exact combo
[15:11] <gvikaskc> sir, i have to remove and add my printer every time i restart my pc
[15:12] <gustav___> mmazing: Have now. Looking for the problem.
[15:13] <mmazing> hmmm, i have apt-get remove and purge all of the packages i installed the other day, and qemu is still there :\
[15:13] <gustav___> mmazing: Nope. Still there.
[15:13] <mmazing> how should i go about removing this and starting from scratch
[15:14] <mmazing> gustav__: it could be bad hardware, does the same USB NIC get packet loss on other computers?
[15:14] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[15:17] <gustav___> mmazing: Doesn't seem to be any packet loss when there's low through-put.
[15:17] <gustav___> Seems like the normal USB NIC problem I've seen before.
[15:18] <mmazing> hmm, i'm not familiar with any regular problems with ubuntu and USB NICs, so this has happened before to you and solved before?
[15:19] <gustav___> It happened, not in Ubuntu, and not solved.
[15:19] <rosco_y> How do I share my HP Laserjet with a Windows 8 machine on the Network?
[15:19] <gustav___> Basically threw the NIC in the trash, I think. But the built-in NIC's port is damaged, or the cable is damaged... so I need a replacement.
[15:20] <mmazing> every year or so i have to buy a new router because it eventually starts dropping packets en masse
[15:21] <gustav___> I think that the problem is in the USB on the motherboard. Some kind of bottle neck.
[15:22] <gustav___> Clueless as to how to configure it.
[15:23] <RockingRocker> i'm back
[15:23] <RockingRocker> so
[15:24] <RockingRocker> I did boot Ubuntu from my USB and now I wanna dualboot it with 8.1 so I did click Install Ubuntu and i choosed "Install alongside them" and now it says Windows 7 as biggest partition and not Windows 8.1
[15:24] <RockingRocker> :/
[15:26] <njsg> Jordan_U_: no luck with ubuntu, and one of the images seems to have some other problem. The one that is ok mounts on the same kind of linux distribution that created it.
[15:26] <RockingRocker> Help? "I did boot Ubuntu from my USB and now I wanna dualboot it with 8.1 so I did click Install Ubuntu and i choosed "Install alongside them" and now it says Windows 7 as biggest partition and not Windows 8.1"
[15:27] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[15:27] <yash069> RockingRocker: still u have windows 7  ?
[15:27] <RockingRocker> nope
[15:27] <RockingRocker> Only 8
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> RockingRocker  maybe 8.1 is too exotic for the installer and it thinks it's 7
[15:28] <RockingRocker> when I click "Show smaller partitions" I have Windows 7 loader wich has 400GB and Windows 8 loader that has 300MB
[15:28] <mike-irssi> RockingRocker: mine identified as Vista--once you get ubuntu installed you can use grub-customizer to change the title
[15:28] <Pici> nation/70
[15:28] <Pici> er
[15:28] <Rory> RockingRocker: Agreed. It's just cosmetic
[15:28] <RockingRocker> Oh ok
[15:29] <RockingRocker> But the space shown on the Windows partition is the free space of the whole space?
[15:29] <RockingRocker> pr£
[15:31] <mike-irssi> RockingRocker: probably, you'll want to resize that
[15:31] <RockingRocker> If I give ubuntu 120 GB and 320GB on Windows will it be ok?
[15:32] <k1l_> RockingRocker: i suggest you boot windows and shrink that windows partition from the windows disk utility in systemsettings.
[15:32] <k1l_> RockingRocker: after that you can partition that new free space for the ubuntu installation
[15:32] <mike-irssi> RockingRocker: i have half that but i'm only using this as a desktop
[15:33] <RockingRocker> Yeah but the question is that if the space allocated on Windows is the WHOLE space (Containing my stuff) or just the free space I can play around with?
[15:33] <RockingRocker> is
[15:34] <mike-irssi> RockingRocker: resizing won't let you partition used space--i believe
[15:34] <RockingRocker> Ok so thanks guys, brb when Linux is installed.
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> the struggle of a linux beginner, reminds me of how i used to be years ago
[15:39] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[15:42] <dale> any idea why im getting invalid mac addresses when trying to PXE boot a maas node?
[15:44] <d1n0> in the maas.log i see a invalid mac address... in the oops file i see a pxe template error
[16:00] <zump> i corrupted my file system so im trying to use a live usb. but busybox drops me into initramfs saying that its unable to mount that exact same file system.. help?!
[16:01] <Aikar_> Hi - I just got a SLI setup, trying to run triple head (Friend sold me his build really cheap, couldnt pass it up). I'm having trouble enabling xinerama. I can get the login screen fine, but logging in hangs with black screen and mouse cursor. Starting X from TTY does same and last line printed is loading extension NV-CONTROL. Ive even tried using the nvidia-331 drivers, and modified Xorg.conf to have SLI=On and MultiGPU=On too, same problem
[16:03] <Aikar> Hi - I just got a SLI setup, trying to run triple head (Friend sold me his build really cheap, couldnt pass it up). I'm having trouble enabling xinerama. I can get the login screen fine, but logging in hangs with black screen and mouse cursor. Starting X from TTY does same and last line printed is loading extension NV-CONTROL. Ive even tried using the nvidia-331 drivers, and modified Xorg.conf to have SLI=On and MultiGPU=On too, same problem
[16:03] <DarsVaeda> hi, can you order Déjà Dup to delete older backups instead of waiting till the space is gone?
[16:05] <iptable> zump try fsck, I believe it's part of busybox. It really depends on how you corrupted it and what you want to do with that now
[16:06] <zump> iptable: if only it was part of busybox :( thats the only thing i want to run
[16:12] <glitsj16> DarsVaeda: you might look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/73163/how-do-i-delete-old-backup-files
[16:13] <Novus2> So I maybe dumping windows today
[16:14] <Novus2> the last program I loved using is going leach mode,.. photoshop requires subscription to use now
[16:16] <Novus2> at what point during the install can I use the traditional interface and remove unity
[16:16] <Novus2> ?
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> Novus2  no need to remove, simply install something else, then logout, switch, login
[16:17] <CarlFK> I am moving /home to a 2nd drive, so /dev/sdb1.  what should the fstab line look like?  copying / gives me:   /dev/sdb1 /home/               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[16:17] <Novus2> MonkeyDust what do you mean? I just don't want it period
[16:18] <Novus2> I don't hate it,. I just don't want it
[16:18] <Novus2> wtf?
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> Novus2  yes, but it's a pain to remove it, simpler, faster and easier is to simply install something else
[16:18] <Novus2> what is the something else?
[16:18] <FireMedic>  /nick FiremanEd
[16:18] <Pici> Novus2: or choose to download an Xubuntu or Lubuntu or Kubuntu disk image.
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> Novus2  lxde and xfce are poupular
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> Novus2  like so: http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[16:20] <Novus2> well i don't have a slow computer by any means
[16:20] <Novus2> it's prolly faster then most people's here
[16:20] <Novus2> so I don't really need a light weight version
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> !notunity | Novus2
[16:21] <Novus2> I liked Gnome 2,.. how does it compare to gnome 3?
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> Novus2  fallback mode is very similar to gnome2
[16:22] <Antiqua> Novus2,  gnome2 = dead   vs. gnome 3 = alive
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> !nounity
[16:22] <Novus2> anyone play STO?
[16:24] <korst3n> Hi.. i accidently copied over /root/.ssh/ folder among with some other folders under /root/ of some other system, and now i can't seem to log in to the server - tells me "permission denied". any ideas how i can fix this remotely?
[16:25] <Novus2> does linux mint have te access to the ubuntu repos?
[16:25] <raub> korst3n: can you login as another user?
[16:25] <korst3n> raub: i tried but i can't
[16:26] <DJones> !mint | Novus2 You're probably best asking their own support network about that,
[16:26] <raub> korst3n: is that a vm?
[16:26] <Novus2> ah ok
[16:26] <korst3n> raub: unfortunately not.. it's a server without monitor, and it's about 300km away from me.
[16:26] <Novus2> see here is the thing
[16:26] <Novus2> i loved ubuntu 9.10
[16:26] <raub> korst3n: I think you might have a bit of an issue now
[16:27] <Novus2> anyway,.. I also have a AMD driver would that be an issue?
[16:27] <raub> young001: really need to be able to login as another user or console
[16:28] <raub> young001: sorry; that was not for oyu. Just tab completion at work ;)
[16:28] <korst3n> guess i'll keep trying.. thanks!
[16:39] <Guest68025> is it possible to recover a ntfs partition using only live ubuntu?
[16:41] <nick787> Guest68025: yes
[16:42] <Guest68025> nick787 : how can i do that?
[16:42] <nick787> Guest68025: google mount ntfs
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> !recover | Guest68025
[16:44] <LeMike> hello. awk always gives me the complete line of a file and not just the pattern. why could that be? `awk '/(\w*)/ { print $1 }' foo.txt` one line looks like "abc/def"
[16:45] <llutz> Lenn1e: awk -F '/'
[16:46] <llutz> LeMike: ^^ default delimiter is space
[16:46] <LeMike> uh yeah
[16:47] <LeMike> thanks llutz . anyway i don't get it. got what i need now but why my pattern doesn't work. dunno ...
[16:48] <HeathHayle> Has anyone here used macbunutu?
[16:48] <llutz> LeMike: "abc/def" is one word, so pattern matches.
[16:48] <HeathHayle> Can I have some help with macbubtu?
[16:49] <llutz> LeMike: if your line doesn't contain any whitespaces, awk matches the whole line because it sees it as one large word
[16:50] <llutz> LeMike: thus you have to specify -F for  a field separator different from whitespace
[16:50] <OerHeks> HeathHayle, macubuntu theme can wreck your system, and is not an official package
[16:50] <jmg76_> #arenabd
[16:53] <jigal1> where can i find php 5.3.3-7 in the apt lib?
[16:55] <lucido> hello, has anyone been able to get neverwinter nights 2 working?
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> lucido  is that a game?
[16:57] <pdkl> lucido, crossover
[16:59] <frog_> hi.
[16:59] <frog_> when i try to install ubuntustudio in virtualbox i get this message: http://imgur.com/SNSNRll
[16:59] <frog_> What am i doing wrong?
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> frog_  you need the i386 vresion, not the amd64 version
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> version*
[17:00] <d1n0> any idea why im getting invalid mac addresses when trying to PXE boot a maas node? in the maas.log i see a invalid mac address... in the oops file i see a pxe template error
[17:00] <d1n0> then, when the node pxe boot's.. I am seeing a 403 error when downloading packages
[17:00] <frog_> MonkeyDust: that means not 64 but 32bit version?
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> frog_  indeed
[17:01] <frog_> MonkeyDust: ok thanks for the fast help!!!
[17:01] <HeathHayle> Can anyone help me with macbuntu?
[17:02] <lucido> MonkeyDust, pdkl, hehe, yes it's a game, I got it working now with playonlinux
[17:02] <kostkon> !anyone | HeathHayle
[17:02] <HeathHayle> Does anyone here use macbunutu?
[17:04] <HeathHayle> Anyone?
[17:05] <phunyguy> !anyone
[17:05] <phunyguy> :)
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> is macbuntu even supported here?
[17:07] <OerHeks> MonkeyDust nope, and as macubuntu theme can wreck your system, stay away from it
[17:08] <HeathHayle> Why can it wreck your system?
[17:09] <HeathHayle> How?
[17:09] <OerHeks> HeathHayle, it is nt just a set of icons and a background, it is full of scripts to make it look/feel ike mac.
[17:09] <OerHeks> *like
[17:09] <phunyguy> I wouldn't go as far to say it is unsupported... but good luck getting support... if that makes sense.
[17:10] <HeathHayle> Oerhks Yer I know
[17:10] <phunyguy> I doubt anyone wants to touch that with a 10 foot pole.
[17:10] <HeathHayle> Am I using it just need help with one thing on it apart from that its great
[17:10] <phunyguy> HeathHayle, what is the actual issue?
[17:11] <HeathHayle> The pannel at the top is black and not like macos
[17:11] <phunyguy> oh... does the macbuntu team have a bug reporting tool?
[17:11] <fsf-free> Welcome to ##fsf-free, a channel for discussion of all free software and Internet freedom related things! :-)
[17:12] <phunyguy> fsf-free, ???
[17:12] <HeathHayle> phunyguy: Not sure
[17:12] <phunyguy> HeathHayle, that may be your best option.  Like I said, I doubt anyone in here can or want to help you
[17:12] <phunyguy> wants*
[17:12] <OerHeks> original macbuntu is designed for xfce xubuntu, maybe the gnome3 panel is not supported (yet)
[17:12] <jigal1> where can i find php 5.3.3-7 for ubuntu
[17:13] <HeathHayle> Why dont they want to help me?
[17:13] <fsf-free> Welcome to ##fsf-free, a channel for discussion of all free software and Internet freedom related things! :-) Are you banned by gnu or fsf channel ops for no reason ?? Join this channel! We are kick/ban free
[17:13] <llutz> fsf-free: stop spamming here
[17:13] <HeathHayle> OerHeks: Oh so if it install xfce xubuntu insted it would work?
[17:14] <OerHeks> HeathHayle, i guess so, yes.
[17:14] <Jazz> So I am very new to Ubuntu and Linux in general. If I want to stream via DLNA it is easier to set up just a media server or run through Plex/Serviio or the likes?
[17:14] <phunyguy> HeathHayle, it is entirely possible
[17:14] <fsf-free> llutz, ok
[17:14] <HeathHayle> Oh ok thanks guys will install that insted
[17:15] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop #logout and change DM
[17:15] <phunyguy> jigal1, good question... what version opf Ubuntu?
[17:15] <phunyguy> of*
[17:16] <HeathHayle> OerHeks: Oh would that work?
[17:16] <phunyguy> jigal1, that looks like a really old version of PHP... no?
[17:17] <phunyguy> jigal1, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/5.3.3-7ubuntu1
[17:17] <HeathHayle> OerHeks: Can I PM you?
[17:18] <phunyguy> Jazz, that all depends on the device you are streaming to
[17:18] <HeathHayle> OerHeks: Can I?
[17:19] <jigal1> phunyguy: yep
[17:19] <HeathHayle> Is it ok to change Linux destros  via terminal?
[17:19] <jigal1> I need to configure a box for it
[17:20] <phunyguy> HeathHayle, perfectly fine, in teh ubuntu world except for a few minor things.
[17:20] <HeathHayle> Oh cool
[17:20] <jigal1> phunyguy: how can i uptain that with apt-get?
[17:20] <phunyguy> jigal1, looks like the last supported version of ubuntu for that package is natty (11.04)
[17:20] <phunyguy> which is EOL.
[17:20] <jigal1> hmmm ok so I can't even get it anymore
[17:21] <phunyguy> which means, you probably can't (very easily)
[17:21] <jigal1> ok
[17:21] <phunyguy> if you can find the .deb for it on the site I linked, you can try it out, but I doubt it will work.
[17:21] <phunyguy> (dependencies, etc)
[17:21] <HeathHayle> phunyguy: Oh one problem the distro I can using is for non-pxe but will this one be that I am downloading?
[17:21] <phunyguy> HeathHayle, what?
[17:22] <phunyguy> are you talking about the apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, or are you downloading an ISO?
[17:22] <jigal1> phunyguy: so I gould beter upgrade to 5.3.5 first or so
[17:22] <jigal1> right?
[17:22] <phunyguy> jigal1, I have no idea
[17:22] <HeathHayle> Downloading via apt
[17:22] <phunyguy> oh... it is just a package containing the xubuntu desktop
[17:23] <phunyguy> PXE should still work fine....
[17:23] <phunyguy> unless you are PXE booting an image which will be wiped upon restart
[17:23] <HeathHayle> Cool what display manager do I use gdm or lightdm ?
[17:24] <phunyguy> lightdm
[17:24] <jigal1> hmm ok phunyguy I would like  version 5.3.24 can I get that with apt-get?
[17:24] <HeathHayle> Thanks for your help
[17:24] <phunyguy> np.
[17:24] <fever308> How do I get adobe flash? When I press download it says it can not be found
[17:24] <phunyguy> jigal1, what version of Ubuntu?
[17:24] <jigal1> 12.04
[17:25] <phunyguy> !info php precise
[17:25] <HeathHayle> So whats the difference between ubuntu and this distro?
[17:25] <phunyguy> errm...
[17:25] <Pici> !info php5 precise
[17:25] <phunyguy> !info php5 precise
[17:25] <phunyguy> :P
[17:25] <FloodBot1> phunyguy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:25] <IdleOne> fever308: install flashplugin-installer
[17:25] <phunyguy> getting closer.
[17:26] <HeathHayle> phunyguy: What?
[17:26] <phunyguy> HeathHayle, xubuntu is ubuntu with the XFCE desktop
[17:26] <phunyguy> Ubuntu uses Unity.
[17:27] <fever308> IdleOne: Where is it located, is it using the terminal cause I just tried and it didn't work.
[17:27] <HeathHayle> But only if you install unity
[17:27] <jigal1> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ seems to be down
[17:27] <IdleOne> fever308: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[17:27] <HeathHayle> You can install gnome on ubuntu
[17:27] <phunyguy> HeathHayle, if you installed regular Ubuntu, you get the Unity desktop (with the icons on the side), if you install Xubuntu desktop, you get XFCE, which is a more traditional desktop.
[17:28] <fever308> Idleone: I get this Package flashplugin-installer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[17:28] <IdleOne> fever308: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[17:28] <fartface> I'm trying to dualboot Windows and elementary, and after the install, it boots straight to Windows, there's no grub.  I've burned another disk, a boot repair disk, which came up with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6584400, since there's only one disk installed, I'm guessing it installing grub to /dev/sdb is where it bunged up and I should reinstall grub to /dev/sda, am I right there?
[17:28] <HeathHayle> phunyguy: i did the min install of ubuntu so I picked gnome
[17:28] <K0HAX> I have Kubuntu, because KDE is fun. :P
[17:28] <fever308> I think 11.0.4 I forgot what cmd is it to check again?
[17:28] <IdleOne> fartface: ask the elementary channel
[17:29] <implementation> Hey guys. I've got an ubuntu installation in a virtual machine, and i've got a running snapshot where i am logged in, but i can't remember my password. is there a way to reset it, that does not involve shutting down the vm and mounting the vdisk manually?
[17:29] <IdleOne> fever308: run: lsb_release -a
[17:29] <fartface> It's based on Ubuntu, the same thing happens with ubuntu.
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> fever308  what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[17:29] <fever308> 12.04.4 LTS
[17:29] <HeathHayle> phunyguy: i did the min install of ubuntu so I picked gnome
[17:29] <IdleOne> fartface: based on is not equal to. ask the proper channel
[17:29] <phunyguy> HeathHayle, please be patient and stop repeating yourself.
[17:29] <phunyguy> so you are on gnome.  That would also explain why it doesn't work.
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> fever308  there's no 12.04.4
[17:30] <HeathHayle> phunyguy: i used the min install and installed gnome
[17:30] <phunyguy> xubuntu will probably be a better fit.
[17:30] <raub> implementation: not that I know of; ypu need to shutdown for it to reset the memory state amongst other thingies
[17:30] <fever308> that's what I get
[17:30] <HeathHayle> Oh isnt macbuntu for gnome then?
[17:30] <fever308> Package flashplugin-installer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[17:30] <fever308> opps
[17:30] <IdleOne> fever308: try sudo apt-get flashplugin-nonfree
[17:30] <phunyguy> HeathHayle, I do not know.
[17:30] <fartface> OK, here, I'll rephrase my question...
[17:30] <IdleOne> fever308: try sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[17:30] <fartface>  I'm trying to dualboot Windows and Ubuntu, and after the install, it boots straight to Windows, there's no grub.  I've burned another disk, a boot repair disk, which came up with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6584400, since there's only one disk installed, I'm guessing it installing grub to /dev/sdb is where it bunged up and I should reinstall grub to /dev/sda, am I right there?
[17:31] <IdleOne> fartface: too late.
[17:31] <HeathHayle> Oh I thought you said thats why its not working?
[17:31] <implementation> raub: damn, that's what i feared. thank you anyway.
[17:31] <fever308> E: Unable to locate package flashplugin-nonfree
[17:31] <IdleOne> fartface: Please use the proper support channel. We have no idea what elementary may have changed or not.
[17:31] <phunyguy> HeathHayle, I am trying to help.  I don't know much about macbuntu, but I was helping you get Xubuntu working.  I cann't be any more help than that
[17:32] <IdleOne> fever308: you do have multiverse enabled?
[17:32] <raub> implementation: if it makes you feel any better; i wish I could do that too. Maybe harass the libvirt/kvm crowd and tell them if they do not make that work you will sing?
[17:32] <HeathHayle> Thats cool you have been great help!
[17:32] <HeathHayle> Thats cool you have been great help!
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> HeathHayle  if you like the Mac interface, try Pear OS, they have their ow support channel
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> own*
[17:33] <HeathHayle> Oh ok cool
[17:33] <Novus2> So can I install gnome 3 in ubuntu?
[17:33] <phunyguy> !info flashplugin-installer precise
[17:33] <implementation> raub: it's not even kvm, but virtualbox. at the time i created that one, i did not even know kvm -- that's also the reason why i forgot the password :D
[17:33] <phunyguy> !info gnome-shell | Novus2
[17:33] <fever308> Idleone: Well I started with Linux last week so I don't know what that is, I should tell you this cause this is why i couldn't do a lot of things, I have armel architecture
[17:34] <raub> implementation: usually if you did not make any changes since last snapshot, just go back to it and all will be well
[17:34] <fugutive221> Hi folks
[17:34] <HeathHayle> Thanks guys for your help
[17:34] <raub> In vitualbox I have killed a vm in a rather nasty way and then reverted to last snapshot and all was well
[17:34] <fugutive221> When doing unsquashfs open2.img I get the following error: Can't find a SQUASHFS superblock on open2.img
[17:35] <implementation> raub: the snapshot does work well, but with a password i do not know ^^
[17:35] <IdleOne> fever308: hmm, not sure if that changes things. ok, open up the Software Center and check in the settings, make sure you have multiverse repository enabled (the little box needs to be checked)
[17:35] <phunyguy> IdleOne, fever308, flash is only available on i386 and amd64
[17:35] <fever308> ahh k
[17:35] <fever308> thanks
[17:35] <IdleOne> phunyguy: fever308 in that case, multiverse won't help
[17:36] <phunyguy> says so in the info I triggered
[17:36] <fever308> Thanks anyway guys
[17:36] <phunyguy> np.  :)
[17:36] <IdleOne> fever308: sure thing, sorry.
[17:36] <IdleOne> thanks phunyguy :)
[17:36] <phunyguy> in...deed.
[17:36] <phunyguy> I need food.  bbiab all!
[17:36] <fugutive221> Could somebody help me please?
[17:37] <Guest85754> fugutive221: what I've found (as a frequent needy newbie), is if you ask a question and wait awhile, someone usually comes along with he
[17:37] <Guest85754> lp.
[17:38] <Guest85754> If in doubt, ask your question again from time to time, but be patient
[17:39] <fugutive221> Ok
[17:39] <Guest85754> How do I share a mount point with a windows pc on the network?
[17:39] <IdleOne> !samba | Guest85754
[17:39] <Guest85754> NFS ?
[17:40] <Guest85754> IdleOne: ty :)
[17:42] <puff`> Good afternoon. So, on the advice of many here, I tried out bumblebee, which requried upgrading to 13.10.  I installed everything and then rebooted... how do I know if it's working?
[17:43] <VlperX> argh I can't find how to fix my issue
[17:43] <eutheria> hi, with nvidia drivers above 304 is anyone else experiencing ctrl+c or d not working?
[17:43] <VlperX> so much google and no answer
[17:44] <mdma> Hi! Any guy with nagios knowledge?
[17:48] <eutheria> mdma: try the nagios channel
[17:49] <mdma> Sorry but no answer in nagios....
[17:52] <digitalwrite> hi is bash still important?
[17:52] <is2b007> does anyone know how to format a drive that is "busy"
[17:52] <digitalwrite> people seem to use python or perl now
[17:52] <digitalwrite> why is that?
[17:53] <pc> Guest85754 try to configure samba properly or use built in menu for sharing
[17:59] <phunyguy> digitalwrite, they all have their place.
[17:59] <Tuxguy> My webcam 'works' in cheese, etc. But I can't find it using lspci or lsub. Any other way to detect it? i tink there is an issue w/ the driver..... the image is really fuzzy and dark
[17:59] <AshleyD1985> Hi, can anyone assist me here?  I'm trying to set a persistent environment variable in my ec2 userdata script.
[18:01] <AshleyD1985> sudo export FOO=BAR does not work...
[18:01] <AshleyD1985> Should I just edit the ~/.bashrc file, and then source it?
[18:01] <AshleyD1985> but will it stay on the machine if nobody is logged in?
[18:02] <AshleyD1985> That's where I'm not clear.
[18:02] <llutz> !find pyephem
[18:06] <Wassim> salut
[18:06] <Wassim> aide moi
[18:06] <Wassim> !
[18:07] <mike-irssi> AshleyD1985: /etc/bashrc is where i would but an alias, i don't know about your question tho sorry
[18:07] <mike-irssi> put*
[18:08] <AshleyD1985> I just want to set PYTHONPATH somewhere persistent
[18:08] <zykotick9> mike-irssi: just curious, do you actually have a /etc/bashrc file?
[18:08] <AshleyD1985> sorry, PYTHONSTARTUP
[18:08] <mike-irssi> zykotick9: negative, i have a bashrc.something
[18:09] <mike-irssi> "bash.bashrc"
[18:12] <AshleyD1985> mike-irssi: I have that file bash.bashrc as well.  If I append a sudo export PYTHONSTARTUP=mystartupfile, is that I all I have to do?
[18:12] <AshleyD1985> mike-irssi: Or do I have to source the file in my startup script as well?
[18:12] <mike-irssi> AshleyD1985: i would think you could drop sudo for that particular variable
[18:13] <yahyaa> rory I got it fixed
[18:13] <AshleyD1985> And, will it persist across user sessions?  Okay, I'm not quite sure when to use sudo, but that's a separate problem. =)
[18:13] <yahyaa> this is jonathan
[18:15] <_KryDos_> hello. can someone help me please. Is it possible to write extension for unity like gnome3 extensions?
[18:16] <yahyaa> does any one know how to get handbrake
[18:16] <flound1129> anyone use ferm quite a bit?
[18:17] <flound1129> I'm trying to disable connection tracking for certain connections, however when I try to save it tells me:
[18:17] <flound1129> Notice: The NOTRACK target is converted into CT target in rule listing and saving.
[18:17] <flound1129> then it barfs and fails
[18:20] <murgero> hey guys!
[18:20] <murgero> how is everyone?
[18:20] <AshleyD1985> bleh, case of the mondays...
[18:20] <mike-irssi> AshleyD1985: stapler
[18:21] <AshleyD1985> Love that movie!
[18:21] <HeathHayle> OerHeks: Why do you say that macbunutu doesn't work on ubuntu?
[18:21] <zykotick9> yahyaa: check of a PPA, i believe there a few choices for handbrake there (see "/msg ubottu ppa" if you are not familiar)
[18:23] <yahyaa> ok thanks
[18:25] <tony_> hello
[18:25] <eHAPPY> any suggestions on a better way to find my largest files/directories than "sudo du -h /var --max-depth=1"
[18:26] <zykotick9> eHAPPY: you might want to check out ncdu
[18:26] <zykotick9> !info ncdu
[18:28]  * puff
[18:28] <fever308> How do I get java for chromium on ubuntu?
[18:28] <mike-irssi> fever308: icedtea i think
[18:28] <HeathHayle> Does anyone here use macbuntu?
[18:30] <HeathHayle> phunyguy: How do I uninstall xbuntu?
[18:31] <mike-irssi> fever308: might need openjdk too
[18:32] <fever308> I have openjdk
[18:32] <fever308> how do I install icedtea I got the tar.gz and extracted it
[18:32] <mikubuntu> am trying to rescue NTFS files on my friends custom box. she has 3 - 1 Terrabyte drives (i guess her C: drive) that were 'deleted' from her win 7. i put a live ubuntu in and successfully booted ubuntu. all the missing NTFS files appear in the file manager. my problem is how do i, or is it possible to restore these files so that win7 will see them.
[18:33] <fever308> what do I do now?
[18:33] <mike-irssi> apt-get install icedtea-7-plugin
[18:33] <mike-irssi> or just icedtea-plugin
[18:34] <fever308> thanks
[18:34] <mike-irssi> fever308: np
[18:35] <HeathHayle> Pkunyguy are you still there?
[18:35] <mike-irssi> mikubuntu: test-disk
[18:35] <Jordan_U_> mikubuntu: So from Ubuntu's perspective nothing is wrong? Can you pastebin thee output of "sudo fdisk -l"?
[18:39] <eHAPPY> zykotick9 thanks! that was perfect
[18:40] <HeathHayle> How do I remove xbuntu when i added it via teminal?
[18:40] <mikubuntu> mike-irssi: Jordan_U_ ok, first line of output is 'invalid option -- '1'
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> !pureubuntu | HeathHayle
[18:42] <mike-irssi> mikubuntu: can't be sure because you say the files are in tact.. is it just not booting
[18:42] <zykotick9> eHAPPY: glad to help
[18:43] <partybean> How to install TightVNC on ubuntu 13.10 ?
[18:43] <mike-irssi> mikubuntu: i would unmount and run testdisk, recover the filesystem if it was formated or get a rescue disk for windows and fixmbr
[18:43] <rivo> I am trying to update myubuntu. Im using version 2.04, but I get error  The package system is broken.
[18:43] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: thats right, that's what i was just thinking, that it's boot file is corrupted, and its a win7 boot file
[18:44] <rivo> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libqt4-opengl: Depends: libqtcore4 (= 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.2) but 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.4 is installed                Depends: libqtgui4 (= 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.2) but 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.4 is installed libqt4-svg: Depends: libqtcore4 (= 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.2) but 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.4 is installed             Depends: libqtgui4 (= 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.2) but 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.4 is installed
[18:44] <rivo> Any suggestions?
[18:47] <rivo> I have tried  following commands : "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get install -f"
[18:47] <fartface>  I'm trying to dualboot Windows and Ubuntu, and after the install, it boots straight to Windows, there's no grub.  I've burned another disk, a boot repair disk, which came up with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6584400.  I've tried reinstalling grub2, and reconfiguring, but grub still won't show up--does anyone have any ideas?
[18:49] <mikubuntu> mike-irssi: are you still suggesting the unmount, test, and recover from above? and if so, how :)
[18:51] <zykotick9> rivo: could you paste.ubuntu.com the output of "apt-cache policy libqtcore4"?
[18:51] <rivo> Sure
[18:54] <HeathHayle> MonkeyDust: That site is missing commands isn't it?
[18:55] <mike-irssi> install testdisk and then follow the prompts
[18:56] <mike-irssi> mikubuntu: if you she has space you can reinstall 7 and not lose a thing
[18:58] <ch1p> hu
[18:58] <ch1p> hi
[18:59] <Rory> Hello ch1p
[18:59] <ch1p> tail: cannot watch `/tmp/x11vnc.tray.PCLyxn': No such file or directory tail: cannot watch `/tmp/x11vnc.tray.PCLyxn': No such file or directory     while executing "close $channel"     (procedure "read_client_info" line 25)     invoked from within "read_client_info $client_tail"     (procedure "read_client_tail" line 5)     invoked from within "read_client_tail"
[19:00] <prashant_123456> hello all
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> HeathHayle  what you can try: backup, then: sudo apt-get purge xubuntu-desktop (to remove the meta package), then: sudo apt-get autoremove
[19:01] <jmgk> Hello prashant_123456
[19:01] <jmgk> :)
[19:02] <prashant_123456> jmgk: yes
[19:02] <jmgk> what help do you need prashant_123456
[19:03] <prashant_123456> jmgk: i am not here for help i am testing my irssi so thats why and glad that its working
[19:03] <jmgk> oh
[19:03] <rivo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6584982/
[19:03] <HeathHayle> MonkeyDust: Thanks I will try that
[19:03] <jmgk> check your pm prashant_123456
[19:03] <jmgk> for a test
[19:03] <jmgk> :)
[19:04] <jmgk> I use irssi swell
[19:04] <prashant_123456> jmgk: actually i am using irssi for the first time and dont know how to check pm
[19:04] <rivo> zykotick9 for you: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6584982/
[19:04] <jmgk> ahh
[19:04] <mike-irssi> prashant_123456: ctrl+p
[19:04] <jmgk> prashant_123456:  there should be a little number flashing ..
[19:04] <jmgk> as the channels are you in is labeled 1 2 3 4 5 6
[19:04] <jmgk> :)
[19:05] <jmgk> and extra pm windows are 7 I thnk
[19:05] <jmgk> mike-irssi:  is good at this :P
[19:05] <zykotick9> rivo: did you manually install some kde package from DEBs or something?  why do we see "100 /var/lib/dpkg/status"?
[19:06] <prashant_123456> jmgk: yes i got it
[19:06] <jmgk> ok
[19:06] <jmgk> reply
[19:06] <jmgk> prashant_123456:
[19:07] <Pici> !test
[19:07] <zykotick9> rivo: oh, nevermind - that's normal!
[19:08] <rivo> zykotick9: you are right, i did install dbs file what i found from forum
[19:08] <zykotick9> rivo: ok, second request - "apt-cache policy libqt4-opengl"
[19:09] <zykotick9> rivo: BAD idea!
[19:09] <zykotick9> rivo: i mean the installing debs manually from forum link
[19:09] <fernando_> hello
[19:09] <rivo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6585028/
[19:12] <zykotick9> rivo: hummm, sorry, i don't have any suggestions - or know where the problem is... but your admitting to manually adding DEBs suggests some version dependency is messed up.  hope you can figure it out/find a fix, best of luck.
[19:13] <rivo> Well, I tried the udate manager first tho, got the packet system is broken error. Details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6585033/
[19:14] <rivo> did mine every possible forum for info,noluck. I might just reinstall
[19:15] <onetinsoldier> rivo: what did you hack? .deb files?
[19:15] <hitsujiTMO> rivo what version of ubuntu are you using?
[19:15] <HeathHayle> MonkeyDust: i have tried that and it didn't work
[19:15] <rivo> im using 12.04
[19:15] <onetinsoldier> rivo: i know of a file you  hack to get around the problem. but keep in mind, it is hacking!
[19:16] <fbbdev> Hi! How can I compile programs to run with glibc 2.11 on ubuntu 13.04 (GLIBC 2.17)? I know I can do this in a chroot environment with Ubuntu Lucid or similar distributions: is this the only way?
[19:16] <onetinsoldier> rivo: i know of a file you *could* hack to get around the problem. but keep in mind, it is hacking!
[19:17] <hitsujiTMO> o.O is packages.ubuntu.com down or is it just me?
[19:17] <rivo> onetinsoldier, im listening
[19:17] <DJones> hitsujiTMO: It has been down today
[19:17] <onetinsoldier> rivo: okay, hang on a few moments
[19:17] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: has been down since last night
[19:19] <fbbdev> hitsujiTMO: same for me
[19:19] <Mehrzad> Hi
[19:19] <fbbdev> hitsujiTMO: host unreachable
[19:19] <Mehrzad> Hi
[19:20] <onetinsoldier> rivo: okay.  cd /var/lib/dpkg
[19:20] <Mehrzad> How can I add winxp to grub?
[19:21] <fbbdev> Mehrzad: can't you just use update-grub with os-prober?
[19:21] <fbbdev> Mehrzad: it should find winxp by itself...
[19:21] <Mehrzad> fbbdev: What's update-grub?
[19:22] <rivo> keep going
[19:22] <onetinsoldier> rivo: sudo cp -v status status.bak
[19:22] <fbbdev> update-grub is the script that generates grub.conf on ubuntu
[19:23] <onetinsoldier> rivo: i'd like confirmation of everything. in my opinion i consider this to be a sensitive operation
[19:23] <fbbdev> Mehrzad: if you're running a normal ubuntu install, try 'sudo update-grub'
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> rivo, ok, seems what the version of libqtcore4 you have installed is correct for 12.04. it's libqt4-opengl and libqt4-svg that are behind. what exactly are you installing?
[19:23] <rivo> okei, as you wish'
[19:24] <onetinsoldier> rivo: okay, ty
[19:24] <rivo> hitsujiTMO i was installing updates
[19:24] <onetinsoldier> rivo: although i guess it isn't that sensitive since you are willing to reinstall if necessary ;-)
[19:24] <PDilyard> my computer just went to a black screen and then flashed a green fuzzy screen every few seconds. I had to hold down the power button to shut it off
[19:24] <Mehrzad> fbbdev: I don't how what to add to the script
[19:25] <hitsujiTMO> rather than doing that hackery you can manually wget the correct versions and install them
[19:25] <onetinsoldier> rivo: okay, what text editor do you use? vim?
[19:25] <Mehrzad> fbbdev: I don't know what to add to the script
[19:25] <rivo> onetinsoldier Yeah, I really dont mind anything, I am already fucked anyway
[19:25] <onetinsoldier> rivo: roger that
[19:25] <onetinsoldier> rivo: what text editor do you use? vim?
[19:26] <PDilyard> this exact thing hasnt happened before but similar things have happened
[19:26] <PDilyard> ubuntu seems to be less stable than windows
[19:26] <rivo> onetinsoldier well, whats the default?'
[19:26] <onetinsoldier> rivo: whatever it is, you need to use it as sudo/root
[19:26] <rivo> okei, will root
[19:27] <onetinsoldier> rivo: are you familiar with using any text editor in linux?
[19:27] <hitsujiTMO> rivo, onetinsoldier before ye go that crazy route, can I suggest something much safer?
[19:27] <onetinsoldier> hitsujiTMO: sure
[19:27] <Mehrzad> fbbdev: Is there any other practical solution?
[19:28] <fbbdev> Mehrzad: You don't need to change anything if you're running the default ubuntu installation
[19:28] <rivo> Not really, im not at all familiar with linux. To be clear, I have very limited knowledge about linux
[19:28] <rivo> So talk to me like im 10 year old
[19:28] <rivo> years
[19:29] <fbbdev> Mehrzad: just run 'sudo update-grub' in the terminal and it should find it
[19:29] <Mehrzad> fbbdev: How to get winxp back to the boot menu then?
[19:29] <Mehrzad> fbbdev: Is that all?
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> rivo  there's edubuntu for children your age ;)
[19:29] <onetinsoldier> hitsujiTMO: it's just that i saw someone say that he hacked .deb files. to get that to work, from my experience, requires another hack
[19:29] <Mehrzad> fbbdev: I ask beacuse I should reset before I can try it
[19:29] <fbbdev> Mehrzad: That's all, if you didn't change grub.cfg manually
[19:30] <Mehrzad> fbbdev: thanks
[19:30] <scotsguy> how do i remove menu fromside of ubuntu and make it like ubuntu 120.4
[19:30] <hitsujiTMO> rivo: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubunut/pool/main/q/qt4-x11/libqt4-opengl_4.8.1-0ubuntu4.4_amd64.deb
[19:30] <Ivanov> Hey guys, i am trying to install fglrx but not sure what version of drivers i need
[19:30] <scotsguy> 12.04
[19:30] <rivo> MonkeyDust indeed there is
[19:30] <Ivanov> my steam installation kept telling me they were out of date when i installed them via ubuntu so should i try to get them from AMD's website?
[19:31] <rivo> hitsujiTMO your link is not working
[19:31] <Pricey> !fglrx
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> rivo: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/q/qt4-x11/libqt4-opengl_4.8.1-0ubuntu4.4_amd64.deb
[19:31] <Pricey> Ivanov: ^
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> rivo sorry, misspelled ubuntu
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> rivo: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/q/qt4-x11/libqt4-svg_4.8.1-0ubuntu4.4_amd64.deb
[19:32] <Ivanov> Pricey yeah i did that and it just keeps telling me my driver is outdated when i try to start steam gameds
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO> rivo: sudo dpkg -i libqt4-opengl_4.8.1-0ubuntu4.4_amd64.deb
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO> rivo: sudo dpkg -i libqt4-svg_4.8.1-0ubuntu4.4_amd64.deb
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO> rivo: then: sudo apt-get if install
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO> rivo and pastebin the output
[19:33] <onetinsoldier> hitsujiTMO: have you seen the following that rivo posted? --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6585033/
[19:33] <llutz> hitsujiTMO: -f install
[19:33] <rivo> roger that
[19:33] <hitsujiTMO> onetinsoldier: yes, I'm getting him to pull the correct latest versions from the repo manually
[19:33] <Ivanov> the issue is they all report to steam as being outdated
[19:34] <onetinsoldier> hitsujiTMO: okay, cool
[19:34] <hitsujiTMO> rivo: then: sudo apt-get -f install
[19:34] <Ivanov> and the expirimental-13 branch just doesnt let steam even start, gives me a GL error
[19:34] <hitsujiTMO> llutz: ty
[19:35] <Pricey> Ivanov: You went through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[19:35] <Ivanov> yeah
[19:35] <Ivanov> i am trying the additional drivers thing again
[19:35] <Ivanov> but the issue is it shows three "expirimental" branches
[19:35] <Pricey> Hmm, maybe they are outdated compared to amd's.
[19:35] <Ivanov> and none have version numbers
[19:35] <Ivanov> yeah thats why i figured, do i just go to amd and get them like i used to on windows?
[19:35] <hitsujiTMO> ivanov: what gpu do you have?
[19:35] <Ivanov> AMD Radeon HD6790 1GB
[19:35] <Ivanov> not great but definately supported :P
[19:36] <hitsujiTMO> yeah, the latest driver in ubuntu should be perfect considering that valve target precise
[19:37] <Ivanov> hitsujiTMO it doesnt work that way for me
[19:37] <MacJones> Can I download apps from Google Play from my Samsung Galaxy s4 in Pakistan?
[19:37] <Ivanov> i tried the 'normal' installation at the top of the list and it refused to install
[19:37] <Ivanov> i had to install "(post release updates)" version first, and thats when steam started giving me errors
[19:38] <hitsujiTMO> Ivanov: is this by anychance with an early access game?
[19:38] <Aikar> Hi - I just got a SLI setup, trying to run triple head (Friend sold me his build really cheap, couldnt pass it up). I'm having trouble enabling xinerama. I can get the login screen fine, but logging in hangs with black screen and mouse cursor. Starting X from TTY does same and last line printed is loading extension NV-CONTROL. Ive even tried using the nvidia-331 drivers, and modified Xorg.conf to have SLI=On and MultiGPU=On too, same problem
[19:38] <Ivanov> no, its steam in general
[19:38] <Ivanov> steam gives me the warning/error on startup
[19:39] <hitsujiTMO> Ivanov: do you have fglrx installed now?
[19:39] <Ivanov> it says it is but it is not
[19:39] <Ivanov> fglrxinfo gives me errors
[19:39] <hitsujiTMO> Ivanov: can you pastebin the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:39] <Ivanov> uh, yes
[19:40] <Ivanov> now i just got the strangest popup
[19:41] <Ivanov> 'precise' is no longer under development, but technical support is still available
[19:41] <Ivanov> guess its a crash reporter?
[19:41] <scotsguy> how do i create short cuts on desktop from launcher pannel
[19:41] <rivo> hitsujiTMO Well, i am using 32bit not 64 bit version. So your files are useless
[19:41] <Ivanov> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6585143/ my paste as well
[19:42] <rivo> onetinsoldier Do you want to continue? :p